[12:00] <rambo3> unix
[12:00] <Xappe> bsd
[12:00] <DJDut> unix
[12:00] <KuLover> I say Linux is basically Linux with eye-candy ;)
[12:00] <LjL> DJDut: OS X has just about nothing to do with linux
[12:00] <bolrod> it's unix based
[12:00] <neutrinomass> DJDut: It's quite a different OS. Try both and see which you like better .... :) If freedom is not a concern that is
[12:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> OS X is based on BSD
[12:00] <pdc303> DJDut: I can't advise any more then installing windows and doing a fschk. You could do it under VMWare if you wish
[12:00] <bolrod> bsd is unix based ?
[12:00] <wastrel> yes
[12:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> yes
[12:00] <calisee> !ubotu help
[12:01] <eclypse> OS X is unix base
[12:01] <NickGarvey> !help
[12:01] <LjL> !tell calisee about bot
[12:01] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Berkly something something
[12:01] <eclypse> dI would think it could hold some relation to Linux.
[12:01] <wastrel> bsd berkeley standard distribution
[12:01] <eclypse> since Linux is merely a Unix clone
[12:01] <fiveiron> yeah what wastrel said
[12:01] <fiveiron> i'm too slow
[12:01] <tga> eclypse, Linux Is Not UniX
[12:01] <wastrel> software
[12:01] <wastrel> not standard
[12:01] <DJDut> i just reinstalled WIN XP today, how can i resize my hd down to say.. 50 gig for windows
[12:01] <eclypse> I know that
[12:01] <NickGarvey> osx is more unix then linux then?
[12:01] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tga: thats GNU :P
[12:01] <KuLover> LjL, could you send that info to me too please?
[12:01] <eclypse> but it bears a very close resemblence.
[12:01] <bolrod> osx is more like osx then unix
[12:01] <fiveiron> NickGarvey, yes
[12:01] <LjL> eclypse: yeah, and Windows and Linux have a relationship because they're both OS's :-) but anyway, let's stop this now
[12:01] <Samuli^> DJDut, better to do that in windows.
[12:01] <calisee> looking for the wiki on updating kernel
[12:02] <pdc303> DJDut: google for ext2 resize
[12:02] <eclypse> lol
[12:02] <fiveiron> NickGarvey, OSX is built off the FreeBSD kernel
[12:02] <lokaz> a
[12:02] <DJDut> k
[12:02] <KuLover> Thanks
[12:02] <bolrod> osx has a micro kernel...
[12:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> If you REALLY wanna be specific, OSX runs offa Mach
[12:02] <NickGarvey> fiveiron: yup, I know very little about bsd though
[12:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> which is what the Hurd also runs off of ATM
[12:02] <spikeb> no
[12:02] <LjL> !offtopic
[12:02] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:02] <eclypse> anyone know how to make Gnome speedier graphics wise? it seems to be a slightly slow desktop environment on my laptop
[12:02] <fiveiron> lol
[12:02] <spikeb> it's mach with bsd code and other crap in it
[12:02] <rambo3> take that offtopic
[12:02] <spikeb> a bloated mess of a kernel
[12:02] <DJDut> is there any FREE partition resizer for windows?
[12:02] <Samuli^> eclypse, try different window manager.
[12:02] <eclypse> like, the icons in the top menu take like a quarter second to load from say... System
[12:02] <NickGarvey> DJDut: I use gparted live cd
[12:02] <eclypse> such as?
[12:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> DJDut: a Knoppix livecd :P
[12:03] <fiveiron> DJDut, uhhh.... fdisk?
[12:03] <LjL> Kyral_FreeBSD: why not a ubuntu livecd :)
[12:03] <bolrod> eclypse: gnome on dapper is quite fast
[12:03] <DJDut> no fdisk
[12:03] <Samuli^> eclypse, use smaller icons.
[12:03] <DJDut> im not formatting again
[12:03] <Samuli^> bolrod, isn't!
[12:03] <bolrod> maybe turn of some effects...
[12:03] <Kyral_FreeBSD> LjL: Knoppix is the uber of all LiveCDs
[12:03] <eclypse> this is the small icons on the top menu...lol
[12:03] <bolrod> Samuli^: faster then it was on breezy!
[12:03] <eclypse> trust me
[12:03] <LjL> bah, the ubuntu livecd doesn't seem bad at all to me
[12:03] <eclypse> this isant a lack of power issue here
[12:03] <espnn> something went wrong the first time I booted ubuntu after an install .. how can I rerun that program ?
[12:03] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone help me find the linuxuvc driver download?
[12:03] <Samuli^> bolrod, well, perhaps. But it's definately not fast for what it is.
[12:04] <tuxtheslacker> they apparently released a driver, but I can't find it anywhere.
[12:04] <eclypse> I heard that using certain window managers make it run much faster
[12:04] <bolrod> what is 'not fast'
[12:04] <rambo3> espnn, can you boot into safemode?
[12:04] <eclypse> icon loading
[12:04] <Samuli^> eclypse, yeah, try the,.
[12:04] <Ackeubu_> LeaChim thanks alot for youre help
[12:04] <bolrod> I mean.. some programs just take a long time to start.. ?
[12:04] <eclypse> what?
[12:04] <LeaChim> Ackeubu_, it's ok
[12:04] <DJDut> This isnt much help
[12:04] <eclypse> try the what?
[12:04] <bolrod> weird.. I have no problems
[12:04] <Samuli^> eclypse, them.. different window managers.
[12:04] <jetpeach> what IRC program do ya'll use in ubuntu? i'm wondering if what people's favorites are
[12:04] <espnn> rambo3: I can boot, but it just drops into a shell .. shouldn't X have been setup etc ?
[12:04] <krazykit> irssi, hands down
[12:04] <DJDut> Is there a free program for partition management
[12:05] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone please help me find this driver?
[12:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I don't use Ubuntu :P
[12:05] <eclypse> how would one setup a window manager, samulia?
[12:05] <NoUse> DJDut gparted
[12:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> whoa lilo was here?
[12:05] <NoUse> DJDut I think I'm like the 10th person to say it :-)
[12:05] <krazykit> eclypse: apt-get it, kill the current one, run the new one.
[12:05] <DJDut> for Windows?
[12:05] <Samuli^> bolrod, for example kde or in the extreme enlightenment offers more eye-candy and still manages to be faster than gnome.
[12:05] <DJDut> its hard to read everything
[12:05] <jetpeach> irssi? i'll check it out
[12:05] <NoUse> DJDut no, but you can boot the gparted live CD
[12:05] <DJDut> alot of people talking
[12:05] <Samuli^> eclypse, just download some and WM-name --replace  to try them.
[12:05] <eclypse> krazykit: I'm kind of a noob at this so, how exactly would I kill one, and what is the name of the package of a window manager
[12:06] <DJDut> shoot it
[12:06] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please help me find the download for the uvc driver? please?
[12:06] <Samuli^> eclypse, iceWM, fluxbox, enlightenment.
[12:06] <DJDut> to get an ap on ubuntu its sudo apt-get install FILE
[12:06] <duckdown> Is there a better screenshot taking program than this stupid "Take Screenshot" under Accessories?  Preferably one that lets you select how much of the screen to take and what not.. I'm pretty sure KDE has a sweet one
[12:06] <krazykit> eclypse: well, the window manager is up to you.  you'd open a console, `killall metacity && $window manager`
[12:06] <bolrod> urh...  just start it up with gdm or something
[12:06] <bolrod> since that's probably also running
[12:06] <pdc303> duckdown: gimp
[12:06] <rambo3> espnn, yes , anyway you can do (id install didnt finish and you are not in bussybox): apt-get update && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:06] <NoUse> DJDut yeah or synaptic from inside gnome if you want a GUI
[12:06] <DJDut> oh ok
[12:06] <M3phisto> @all ca
[12:06] <duckdown> gimp can do it?
[12:06] <tuxtheslacker> please? anyone?
[12:07] <NickGarvey> duckdown: ksnapshot is what I use
[12:07] <DJDut> is  KUBUNTU better
[12:07] <NickGarvey> tuxtheslacker: what is uvc?
[12:07] <NickGarvey> DJDut: better is a matter of opinion ;)
[12:07] <pdc303> duckdown: gimp --> File--> Aquire --> Screen shot
[12:07] <nickrud> eclypse, the help under system, check the Other documents / Desktop / Admin guide, there's a section there on performance
[12:07] <bolrod> isn't it the same but with kde instead of gnome?
[12:07] <NoUse> DJDut its about preference, I'd start with Ubuntu and you can apt-get kubuntu to test
[12:07] <NickGarvey> bolrod: yessir
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> eclypse: wmaker is a pretty fast window manager
[12:07] <tuxtheslacker> NickGarvey, USB Video Class driver
[12:07] <wastrel> i like windowmaker ok
[12:07] <DJDut> uh
[12:07] <wastrel> dockapps
[12:07] <eclypse> and this doesn't change gnome in any way correct?
[12:08] <DJDut> Does my pc need SSE2 support for multiboot
[12:08] <NickGarvey> tuxtheslacker: yeah thats more of a media thing.. which is often hardware specific, so I'd say google
[12:08] <NoUse> DJDut no
[12:08] <DJDut> okay
[12:08] <tuxtheslacker> NickGarvey, I just need the actual downlaod....
[12:08] <ignition19> can anyone help, when I was installing from livecd gparted corrupted my ntfs partition, and now it says partition type is "unknown". I can't boot to windows, or mount the drive. :/
[12:08] <tuxtheslacker> NickGarvey, as in google is sending me to a donwload page that doesn't have the donwload available.
[12:08] <krazykit> eclypse: as long as you don't save the session, it shouldn't.
[12:08] <espnn> ramob3: thanks, it's working at it now .. is that going to do all the post-install stuff that really were supposed to happen on first boot?
[12:09] <Ackeubu_> how do i check permissions on a folderin the terminal?
[12:09] <eclypse> krazykit, what do yu mean save the session?
[12:09] <duckdown> pdc303> thanks ill give it a shot
[12:09] <nickrud> Ackeubu_, ls -l <folder>
[12:09] <krazykit> eclypse: when you log out, there should be a checkmark that says "save this session".  make sure it's unchecked
[12:09] <DJDut> OS X or UBUNTU
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> can gparted resize ext3 partitions reliably ?
[12:09] <eclypse> ok
[12:09] <krazykit> DJDut: depends on how fast the computer is.
[12:09] <rambo3> espnn, yes
[12:09] <eclypse> what are the reprecussions to saving a session?
[12:09] <DJDut> its 1 ghz
[12:09] <espnn> rambo3: sweet .. thanks
[12:10] <eclypse> also, not saving a session keeps the window manager correct? (appologies for the noob questions)
[12:10] <krazykit> eclypse: um, it saves what all programs are running, and runs them again next time you log in
[12:10] <Spec> What's the best way to get eth0's IP into a bash and/or python variable?
[12:10] <krazykit> DJDut: that's not enough information.  1ghz what?  g3? g4?  how much memory?
[12:10] <DJDut> 512 MB of RAM
[12:10] <krazykit> g3 or g4?
[12:10] <DJDut> g3
[12:11] <krazykit> DJDut: OSX would probably run fine in that.  i'd install osx and install a ports tree from one of the BSDs.  i think it's openbsd...
[12:11] <rambo3> why dont you google python and sockets
[12:11] <eclypse> sorry about that
[12:11] <eclypse> my dialup hit the 24/hour limit
[12:11] <DJDut> Say what krazykit
[12:11] <stevekl> eclypse, in a rare instance of me asking a new linux user something, how do you save your session in gnome?
[12:12] <eclypse> umm
[12:12] <krazykit> DJDut: you can install the ports tree from openbsd, i believe, and be able to easily install many many many of your favorite *nix apps.
[12:12] <knight488> anyone use wifi radar?
[12:12] <nickrud> stevekl, you can save on the fly with gnome-session-save in a terminal
[12:12] <stevekl> oh ok
[12:12] <udo> does anyone knows about mutella for ubuntu 6.06?
[12:12] <eclypse> I suspect it would be somewhere in the welcome screen, you would go into options on the welcome screen I think... I'm not entirely sure, stevekl
[12:12] <DJDut> krazykit, is there any other free os with a interface that will run off of the windows partition
[12:12] <Set> I want to change the MAC adress on my interface. "ifconfig eth2 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55" says "invalid argument" - what am I doing wrong?
[12:13] <ignition19> can anyone help, when I was installing from livecd gparted corrupted my ntfs partition, and now it says partition type is "unknown". I can't boot to windows, or mount the drive. :/
[12:13] <DJDut> you have to create a new partition and format it
[12:13] <neutrinomass> Will a kernel module be loaded only if needed?
[12:14] <krazykit> DJDut: well, of course you would have to create a new partition
[12:14] <krazykit> neutrinomass: right, only if needed
[12:14] <] GoldenDragon> what application should I use to program in JAVA?
[12:14] <eamo> Hi, in order to install gnomad2 in breezy I had to install the .deb file which depended on a new libc6.  Now I cannot upgrade to Dapper because of a problem with libc6.  Can I uninstall it?
[12:14] <Fenrrir> i have tow audio cards, but dapper swap dsp0 with dsp1, where can correct ?
[12:14] <krazykit> DJDut: any linux, and bsd, freedos, reactos, etc etc
[12:14] <Sivik> how do i determine what version of X i'm running?
[12:14] <DJDut> Okay
[12:14] <neutrinomass> krazykit: Are you sure? Because I see some sony-acpi support stuff on my desktop (of course, I'm running nothing sony related )
[12:14] <DJDut> Im going to go make a decision thanks for the help people
[12:15] <joebush> Apparently, rar isn't installed with system installation. Is the package available? couldn't see it
[12:15] <PSIplus> hi
[12:15] <nickrud> eamo, you can probably use synaptic to force the version of libc6 you want
[12:15] <joebush> Or do I need to enter another source
[12:15] <DJDut> thanks everyone have a good day
[12:15] <PSIplus> how can i change the locale in dapper?
[12:15] <krazykit> neutrinomass: yeah, i'm pretty sure.  it'd be dumb for it to modprobe everything.
[12:15] <neutrinomass> Sivik: Xorg -version ?
[12:15] <Sivik> thanks
[12:15] <Spec> rambo3: thanks
[12:15] <neutrinomass> krazykit: Ok, thanks.
[12:15] <krazykit> neutrinomass: perhaps something, for some reason, depends on that module?
[12:15] <eamo> nickrud, will it be clear which is the best one for breezy?
[12:16] <PSIplus> ...what i did in breezy and debian with dpkg --reconfigure locales
[12:16] <PSIplus> doesn't work anymore
[12:16] <neutrinomass> krazykit: Maybe.... but I'm seeing a bunch of modules with 0 usage, that's why I asked - I'm not too sure what happens with the initrd boot images and friends (have never built one and don't know what it is :-) )
[12:16] <nickrud> eamo, set up for breezy sources, and do an update: if you got the new libc6 from outside ubuntu, it'll be the one with ubuntu in the name ;)
[12:17] <krazykit> neutrinomass: meh, you could always rmmod it and see if anything breaks.  if not, throw it in the blacklist file.
[12:17] <M_Cheevy> downloaded the "alternate" install CD hoping it would allow me to install to a "fakeraid" array.  Doesn't seem to.  Is there a wiki article for Dapper yet?
[12:17] <stian> Hello
[12:17] <wastrel> hi
[12:18] <eamo> nickrud, thanks - will try
[12:18] <nickrud> eamo, the latest one in breezy is glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1
[12:18] <stian> Are there other people having issues with mail on dapper server?
[12:18] <PSIplus> no ideas about the locales-issue?
[12:18] <stian> I can't send mail with php scripts, nor using mail in bash
[12:18] <stian> And this is a fresh install
[12:18] <nickrud> PSIplus, System-Admin language support should do it
[12:18] <Spec> rambo3: unfortunately all the socket.* stuff is returning 127.0.0.1 ... not eth0
[12:19] <PSIplus> nickrud: I'm in no-gui env
[12:19] <udo> does anyone knows about mutella for ubuntu 6.06?
[12:19] <PSIplus> nickrud: i want to know what language support does ;-)
[12:19] <neutrinomass> krazykit: Yes, that's an option :) But I'm trying to figure out a reliable way of detectin whether certain devices are attached and I'm probably going the lsmod way (after grepping and grepping in /proc and /sys I quit ) - I don't want to get false positives, hence my question.
[12:20] <rambo3> Spec, you fail at google http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/439094
[12:20] <nickrud> PSIplus, then, since they changed things out from under me (used to be dpkg-reconfigure locales) I don't know
[12:20] <lolotov> I have run out of disk space and cannot login; I tried deleting things via the desktop, but it seems they are just 'removed' - how do I actually delete files?
[12:20] <nickrud> PSIplus, changes locale :)
[12:20] <PSIplus> nickrud: me neither ;-)
[12:20] <krazykit> neutrinomass: well, in a perfect world, unneeded kernel modules are not loaded.  i don't have this problem, since i roll my own ;-)
[12:20] <PSIplus> nickrud: it's totally different... Totally! :-)
[12:20] <wastrel> lolotov:  the rm command
[12:20] <joebush> Is RAR anywhere to be found in the sources that are configured in Ubuntu? Or do I need to add another?
[12:20] <wastrel> lolotov:  be careful, there's no undo
[12:21] <Spec> rambo3: apparantly.
[12:21] <Sivik> has anyone had any issues with VMWare server and dapper?
[12:21] <PSIplus> nickrud: now i have an utf-8 environment and an iso8859-15 chroot -- and that suxx a bit... ;-)
[12:21] <krazykit> joebush: you need multiverse, i believe
[12:21] <nickrud> PSIplus, yes, that could be a problem
[12:21] <joebush> krazykit: what is that?
[12:22] <PSIplus> nickrud: normaly, a dpkg-reconfigure locales in the chroot should have done the job ;-) ... well, however, you know... ;-)
[12:22] <krazykit> joebush: ubotu just told you
[12:22] <zax1> i have an interesting problem with ubuntu/xubuntu instalation. i am green and cant figure out what to do. any one interested in the chalange ??                     i installed xubuntu as a dual boot OS together with win2k, 5gb partition for each OS, xubuntu wouldnt finish the install the computer crashed everytime at the mid to end "selecting and installing software".  on the other hand i...
[12:22] <zax1> ...had no problem installing kubuntu on the same machine         i ended up installing kubuntu 5.10 as a 'server' install and followed the direction to update and install xubuntu. once i configured the xserver for gui it loaded up fine but with onloy 600*800 resolution, i rebooted and added 1024*768 resolution and the gui loaded then crashed the computer in a similar maner to how it crashed...
[12:22] <zax1> ...when i installed xubuntu......its a 700mhz 128mb laptop with INTEL830M integrated graphics....can any one help me out here ?
[12:22] <joebush> krazykit: just got that. thanks
[12:22] <mitcheloc> just a silly usability note but the update manager, when moved to the top of the screen, can't be retreived if the menu bar is above the screen (not sure how that happened)
[12:22] <Ackeubu_> i write smb //ip/public and i can access my home folde. but i have nothing that seems to direct "public" to my home dir, isnt that wicked/??
[12:23] <Xappe> PSIplus: locale-gen <locale>
[12:24] <zax1> after the crash, i rebooted and am back on the console with no GUI, any ideas on how to proceed ?
[12:24] <PSIplus> Xappe: Yahoo! Thanx!
[12:24] <Xappe> PSIplus: np, took a while for me to figure that out too
[12:25] <M_Cheevy> Is there a way to get Dapper installed on pre-partitioned SATA (Fake)Raid 0 array using the Alternate CD?
[12:25] <rambo3> zax type vi , and write a novell
[12:25] <Denzinger> I'm running 6.06 (live-DVD) with a M-Audio Revolution 7.1 sound card and can't control the volume properly with the GNOME volume applet.  If I use AlsaMixer, I can control left and right independently (DAC and DAC 1) but not together.  I googled and read some manpages without success.  How can I fix the GNOME applet or find another way to control sound correctly?
[12:25] <benplaut> ubuntu:
[12:25] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[12:25] <zax1> thank you rambo, very helpful.. what would you rather do type"help me please" ?
[12:25] <benplaut> ubuntu: enjoying the livecd?
[12:26] <tuxtheslacker> can someone take a look at this site and tell me if I'm stupid for not seeing the actual download anywhere?
[12:26] <tuxtheslacker> http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[12:26] <stian> I'm gonna puke
[12:26] <PSIplus> Xappe: "Error: 'de_AT.UTF8' is not a supported language or locale"
[12:26] <PSIplus> Xappe: That can't be...
[12:26] <tuxtheslacker> or can anyone help me get that working?
[12:26] <eclypse> why isant build-essential package automatically included with Ubuntu?
[12:26] <tuxtheslacker> as in find the godforsaken driver for me?
[12:26] <krazykit> eclypse: because most users don't need to build software?
[12:26] <LjL> eclypse: because most people won't need to compile programs
[12:26] <stian> Noby has had problems with sending e-mail with php5? This is very out of the box, so really shouldn't be the only one :(
[12:26] <eclypse> ic.
[12:27] <rambo3> zax1 no search forums for you gfx card , i never had intel one so i dont know
[12:27] <Ackeubu_> How do i add a user from terminal? adduser name homedir?
[12:27] <PSIplus> eclypse: because a cd-rom does only have 700MB
[12:27] <ompaul> eclypse, that is the subject of many flame wars, if you know what it is it will cost you 10 minutes to install max
[12:27] <LjL> even just adduser name
[12:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: you need to use subversion to get it
[12:27] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, what is subversion?
[12:27] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, and how do I install/use it?
[12:27] <eclypse> lol
[12:27] <nickrud> tuxtheslacker, I followed the download links which took me to http://developer.berlios.de/projects/linux-uvc says, no files released yet
[12:27] <eclypse> damn
[12:27] <ompaul> tuxtheslacker, a version management tool
[12:27] <eclypse> oh well
[12:27] <eclypse> why can't I find the airsnort package on apt-get?
[12:28] <zax1> rambo, kubuntu loads perfectly, so its not ( i dont think) a driver issue. if its just the driver why would the installer crash ?
[12:28] <eclypse> it used to be there.
[12:28] <eclypse> :(
[12:28] <tuxtheslacker> does that mean it could be there and just not listed if I need svn?
[12:28] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: it means that the code is probably very incomplete, and not ready for someone inexperienced
[12:28] <LjL> eclypse: it's still there
[12:28] <ompaul> eclypse, you can if you install repos and ehh don't mention it for help in this channel or you will be banned
[12:28] <eclypse> ok
[12:28] <LjL> !info airsnort
[12:28] <ompaul> !repos
[12:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:28] <Sivik> has anyone had any issues with VMWare server and dapper?
[12:28] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.7e-1.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 180 kB
[12:28] <Sivik> !VMWare
[12:28] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[12:28] <eclypse> repos?
[12:28] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, well, this is true, but I really need this software :-/.
[12:28] <Xappe> PSIplus: what about using utf8 as default and adding an iso locale? locale-gen sv_SE works fine for me
[12:28] <ompaul> !tell Sivik about msgthebot
[12:28] <Sivik> sorry ompaul
[12:29] <LjL> eclypse: a great deal of programs is in the Universe repository (which is disabled by default), not in the Main repository
[12:29] <tuxtheslacker> unless someone else knows how to make a logitech quickcam 5000 work.
[12:29] <ompaul> Sivik, now you know, you did not then, whats there to be sorry about?
[12:29] <ompaul> :)
[12:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: well, i'd suggest you read up on how to use subversion, it's not that difficult.
[12:29] <eclypse> how does one enable universe repository's? and is there any cons to this?
[12:29] <ompaul> !repos
[12:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:29] <LjL> eclypse: follow the howto
[12:29] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, would it be listed on that site though?
[12:29] <Sivik> ompaul, very well
[12:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: nope.
[12:29] <ompaul> eclypse, do what ubotu points to
[12:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, as in it says there's no releases yet, but how would I see what has been released?
[12:30] <LjL> eclypse: cons, no. except that packages in Universe are community-maintained (while packages in Main are mantained by the core Ubuntu developers), so they might be less reliable.
[12:30] <mitcheloc> Sivik: i'm about 95% sure i enabled the universe repo, and still no "mono-base" however i managed to get monodevelop installed, but it crashes on startup
[12:30] <PSIplus> Xappe: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
[12:30] <Sivik> mitcheloc, copy your sources.list to the pastebin and let me see it
[12:30] <eclypse> oic, thanks
[12:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: there have been NO releases.  it's still being worked on, and is in pre-alpha state.  which means it's likely to cause problems.  but if you really want, read the subversion manual, check out the code, and build it yourself.
[12:31] <PSIplus> Xappe: edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local ... add my line ... then run locale-gen without args
[12:31] <Sivik> mitcheloc, does that make sense?
[12:31] <tuxtheslacker> gar :-/. haha!
[12:32] <Xappe> PSIplus: adding locales has gotten way too complicated
[12:32] <nickrud> PSIplus, nice looking, thanks
[12:32] <mitcheloc> Sivik: yes, here it is http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?show=711764
[12:33] <PSIplus> Xappe: Why the hell did they change a well-working locales-system witch took debian six years to bring it to perfection? ;-)
[12:33] <seanieb64> hi
[12:33] <Tommy2k4> how would i mount my floppy drive
[12:34] <mitcheloc> Sivik: is it called mono-common maybe?
[12:34] <PSIplus> nickrud: looking? man locale-gen ;-)
[12:34] <Sivik> mitcheloc, you need the backports
[12:34] <PSIplus> nickrud: use the formats from /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED
[12:34] <Xappe> PSIplus: dunno, to make all umlaut using people sad perhaps?
[12:35] <Sivik> you need the dapper backports
[12:35] <eclypse> dialup on ubuntu sucks...:(
[12:35] <assasukasse> hi all, when i try to install gksudo i get an error msg telling that is obsolete..
[12:35] <eclypse> I heard that edgy eft is going to have better support for dialup...is this true?
[12:35] <Sivik> pm mitcheloc
[12:35] <nickrud> PSIplus, nah, I didn't look hard because I'm not running a chroot except for breezy, and that's just for info
[12:35] <fiveiron> wow... nexuiz is great
[12:35] <seanieb64> I just tried to compile a package in the terminal, and the "make" command didnt work
[12:35] <NickGarvey> fiveiron: :)
[12:35] <seanieb64> any idea why?
[12:35] <seanieb64> it said it wasn't found
[12:35] <Sivik> add those two lines to your sources.list file, and then run apt-get update
[12:35] <Sivik> and then search for the mono-base there
[12:36] <eclypse> seanieb64:do you have the build-essential package?
[12:36] <PSIplus> Xappe: Like me... I'm from austria ... In german my countries name is stereich :-) ...
[12:36] <seanieb64> uhhh.... I don't know
[12:36] <PSIplus> see? ;-)
[12:36] <mitcheloc> Sivik: okay, trying now, just a sec
[12:36] <Sivik> mitcheloc, see if that works, i think thats where the stuff is
[12:36] <PSIplus> nickrud: but it's one of these "good to know"-topics, isn't it? ;-)
[12:36] <eclypse> do the following command, seanieb64, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:37] <nickrud> PSIplus, I've ignored that question, no longer need. Like I said, Thanks
[12:37] <Denzinger> Anyone have an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 that GNOME Volume Applet controls correctly under Ubuntu 6.06?
[12:37] <Snowfairy> !word
[12:37] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snowfairy
[12:37] <Tommy2k4> still cant manage to mount my floppy drive
[12:37] <Xappe> PSIplus: mhm, i'm a swede myself... , ,  you know
[12:37] <Snowfairy> doh >.< :P
[12:37] <Snowfairy> wrong channel
[12:38] <Tommy2k4> i tried to do what it said in the wiki but the line it says to change doesnt exist
[12:38] <NickGarvey> Snowfairy: word up man!
[12:38] <Snowfairy> lol :P
[12:38] <Sivik> mitcheloc, did that work
[12:38] <Sivik> mitcheloc, try sudo apt-get install mono
[12:39] <Sivik> its not called mono-base
[12:39] <rambo3> Tom39Away, run sudi fdisk -l , and see where floppy is you mount it as vfat
[12:39] <rambo3> Tom39Away, run sudo fdisk -l , and see where floppy is you mount it as vfat
[12:39] <Sivik> mitcheloc, you may not even need the backports
[12:39] <linrunix> hi everyone
[12:40] <Sivik> hi linrunix
[12:40] <ompaul> rambo3, have a look at mtools much easier way of doing that
[12:40] <fiveiron> would gparted allow me to reformat a slave drive?
[12:40] <krazykit> fiveiron: yup
[12:40] <fiveiron> aight...thx
[12:40] !alindeman:*! Regional server split--we're looking into it
[12:40] <seanieb64> hmm
[12:41] <seanieb64> that worked
[12:41] <fiveiron> it is unreal how much faster Ubuntu runs on this machine than FreeBSD
[12:41] <ompaul>  /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:41] <seanieb64> but when I run the makefile is says Permission Denied
[12:41] <Sivik> fiveiron, probably not
[12:41] <fiveiron> i should say, how much faster gnome through ubuntu runs than gnome through freebsd
[12:41] <Kasuko> Could someone help me out with this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15782
[12:41] <bobbyd> hi
[12:41] <Sivik> seanieb64, you have to do sudo before you try to make the file
[12:41] <bobbyd> is anyone here running on a geode board?
[12:41] <seanieb64> ok, sorry, I'm new, trying to learn this
[12:42] <Sivik> seanieb64, thats cool
[12:42] <MdSalih> when installing dapper 6.06... is it possible to get it to auto set up the partitions (ext3 & swap).. like how it did in v.5 ?
[12:42] <seanieb64> seanieb64@netblock-68-183-146-143seanieb:~/Desktop/gplflash-0.4.13$ sudo make
[12:42] <seanieb64> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:42] <Sivik> seanieb64, any time you are trying to install something, you need to be in sudo
[12:42] <seanieb64> there is a makefile in that directory
[12:43] <krazykit> seanieb64: err... did you ./configure first?
[12:43] <Tommy2k4> for the 3rd time today linux has crashed on me =/
[12:43] <seanieb64> ye
[12:43] <seanieb64> s
[12:43] <Kasuko> crimsun_: Are you there?
[12:43] <n0dl> Tommy2k4, probably bad ram
[12:43] <Tommy2k4> my music stops playing then the monitor just shows lots of multicoloured vertical lines
[12:43] <Sivik> seanieb64, then there is a problem with the make stuff
[12:43] <Sivik> seanieb64, pastebin the whole message
[12:43] <seanieb64> ok
[12:44] <seanieb64> I need the pastebin URL
[12:44] <ompaul> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:44] <Sivik> seanieb64, did you install the sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[12:44] <Kasuko> Could someone help me out with this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15782
[12:44] <assasukasse> why gksudo package has been taken out from repositories?????
[12:46] <seanieb64> look at the...where's the pastebin?
[12:46] <crimsun_> assasukasse: it's in the 'gksu' package.
[12:46] <PSIplus> okay
[12:46] <Talisker> remind me please how do I use apt-get to install the dependency tree of a package without installing the package itself?
[12:46] <PSIplus> adios amigos ... good night und gute nacht! :-)
[12:47] <Talisker> It installs all the packages needed to build that package iirc
[12:47] <crimsun_> Talisker: apt-get build-dep
[12:47] <Kyral> Talisker: apt-get build-dep <package>
[12:47] <ompaul> seanieb64, -- >>>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:47] <assasukasse> crimsun_ no...is not there..i have it and gksudo gives nothing..
[12:47] <Talisker> thanks
[12:47] <crimsun_> assasukasse: the package's name is 'gksu', not 'gksudo'
[12:47] <seanieb64> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15784
[12:47] <seanieb64> my thing
[12:47] <assasukasse> yes crimsun_ gksu is already installed..but gksu on a terminal gives me error only..
[12:48] <seanieb64> the last time I used pastebin, it posted the url for me
[12:48] <assasukasse> crimsun_ i reinstall it maybe is BOrked :D
[12:48] <manchine> i would want to install dapper using the good old text mode installer. boot: live debian/installer didn't work and i cannot figure out any other boot options. how can i solve this?
[12:49] <crimsun_> assasukasse: just ``apt-get --reinstall install gksu''
[12:49] <Ackeubu_> hwo do i list processes?
[12:49] <seanieb64> manchine: the additional package
[12:49] <RemyLaptop> !samba
[12:49] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[12:49] <Ackeubu_> prox
[12:49] <Kyral> Ackeubu_: ps aux, pstree, top...
[12:49] <seanieb64> I had to use it for mein, it was text based
[12:49] <Ackeubu_> kyral ty
[12:49] <manchine> seanieb64: another iso?
[12:50] <Kyral> I prefer pstree myself
[12:50] <seanieb64> yes, on the Ubuntu desktop download area
[12:50] <Kasuko> crimsun_: Do you remeber me from yesterday (bad sound) Well I would like to know ... why does my sound magically work today?
[12:50] <seanieb64> there is an additional intall package
[12:50] <seanieb64> that goes right to a text based installer
[12:50] <crimsun_> Kasuko: didn't you just answer that in your question?
[12:50] <wogi> Are there other places than the default that I can add to my sources file to get newer packages? I would like to get evolution2.6.2 and dapper makes evolution2.6.1 available to me. Can you help me find the easiest way to get it? Thanks!
[12:51] <eXistenZ> any good dynamic dns service?
[12:51] <Kyral> wogi: use Arch or compile it yourself
[12:51] <Kyral> eXistenZ: I used DynDNS for a while
[12:51] <jdmpike> when you install something from source, how do you remove it?
[12:51] <jdmpike> make uninstall?
[12:51] <wogi> kyral: what is arch?
[12:51] <eXistenZ> Kyral, what package do you use?
[12:51] <Kyral> jdmpike: hope that it has an uninstall target
[12:51] <manchine> seanieb64: in the livecd or the website= sorry, i'm not getting it
[12:51] <wogi> kyral: It appears to have tonnnns of dependancies :/
[12:51] <wogi> kyral: Although, if ubuntu comes with 2.6.1 and I only want to go to 2.6.2, probably they are already met?
[12:51] <jdmpike> Kyral can you make an uninstall script?
[12:51] <Kyral> eXistenZ: I run my own webserver and and its relatively Static
[12:52] <Kyral> jdmpike: now you know the reason for Package Managers :P
[12:52] <seanieb64> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[12:52] <Kyral> wogi: Arch == ArchLinux
[12:52] <seanieb64> thats for a x86 machine
[12:52] <Kasuko> Gah Can anyone help me get rid of the shortcut shift+backspace
[12:52] <Kyral> Inspired by Slackware
[12:52] <jdmpike> Kyral, of course - but you can't expect everything to be in the repos, there are too many cool projects
[12:52] <Kyral> jdmpike: I know :P
[12:52] <MTecknology> I need help to set up Synergy so that my Ubuntu laptop is the server for my Windows desktop.
[12:53] <Sivik> in order to run mono CLI, you have to have mono-devel installed right
[12:53] <Kyral> jdmpike: just today I had to recompile Apache and PHP on my server
[12:53] <manchine> seanieb64: anything similar in the kubuntu branch?
[12:53] <jdmpike> Kyral, but I need to remove some of those cool projects...
[12:53] <seanieb64> Kasuko go to the key shortcuts panel
[12:53] <seanieb64> *prefrence
[12:53] <Kyral> jdmpike: look for the make uninstall target
[12:53] <LuckyCharms21> Hi can someone help me with a kernel problem for dapper?
[12:53] <Kyral> if not...try to manually wope out the files
[12:53] <seanieb64> uhh, hangon
[12:53] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find a guide to using GPA? i dont understand how to let a friend decrypt a file that i have encrypted with my key, even though he has my public key...
[12:53] <Kasuko> its not in there. I think its a system shortcut. I think it resets my x server
[12:54] <jdmpike> Kyral, does not exist...
[12:54] <duelboot> manchine, did you get your answer...I disconnected before I could send it
[12:54] <crimsun_> Kasuko: seriously, though, look at ``lsmod''
[12:54] <crimsun_> Kasuko: (RE: sound)
[12:54] <Kyral> jdmpike: the Linux From Scratch website, by its nature has good ideas for keeping track
[12:54] <Cntryboy> What is the best video player that has a wide variety of plugins, xvid,divx,mpeg2, dvd ect? ubuntu comes with totem but is there something else better?
[12:54] <seanieb64> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[12:54] <wogi> Kyral: You think I should use a different distro of linux ?
[12:54] <Kyral> wogi: matter of opinion
[12:54] <Kyral> I know Arch has it (99% sure)
[12:54] <Cntryboy> is xine better than totem?
[12:54] <manchine> duelboot: what suggestion do you propose?
[12:55] <seanieb64> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[12:55] <Kyral> Cntryboy: Xine is more like a backend
[12:55] <manchine> seanieb64: thanks for the precious url
[12:55] <seanieb64> thats kubuntu
[12:55] <Cntryboy> backend?
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: Depends how compilicated it is You can just look in the Makefile for the :install target and make an :uninstall target and instead of copying the files remove them
[12:55] <seanieb64> np
[12:55] <Kyral> Cntryboy: Totem can use it via totem-xine
[12:55] <duelboot> manchine, download the "alternate" iso...uses text installer...worked for me on a Pent II, 266, 128MB RAM
[12:55] <Cntryboy> so which is the best video player to get kyral?
[12:55] <seanieb64> which is this
[12:55] <Kyral> Cntryboy: again, its a matter of opinion
[12:55] <seanieb64> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[12:55] <Kasuko> crimsun_: I have a mixer now? But why. Driving me crazy
[12:55] <Kyral> Cntryboy: I personally like Codiene
[12:56] <Cntryboy> if I downloaded it, does it come with all the plugins I need? totem doesn't have any plugins it seems because it can't play any movies
[12:56] <Cntryboy> talking about codiene
[12:56] <Kyral> for built in power, VLC is good
[12:56] <Kyral> Codiene relies on Xine
[12:56] <Kasuko> crimsun_: whatever I cant complain
[12:56] <seanieb64> what are te differemces between Xubuntu, Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[12:57] <Kyral> and Xine relies on codecs
[12:57] <MTecknology> I need help to set up Synergy so that my Ubuntu laptop is the server for my Windows desktop. Can anybody offer help??
[12:57] <Kyral> seanieb64: the difference between GNOME, KDE, and XFCE
[12:57] <Kasuko> But I can complain about why when I press shift+backspace it restarts my x server
[12:57] <eclypse> desktop systems
[12:57] <Kasuko> any takers?
[12:57] <Cntryboy> so totem relies on what?
[12:57] <eclypse> err
[12:57] <eclypse> environments
[12:57] <Cntryboy> just codecs?
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> Can anyone give me suggestions to this problem?
[12:57] <Kyral> Kasuko: thats an XGL problem
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> 'm using dapper drake final on a dual core amd processor.
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> I need your help.  I was able to compile the 2.6.16 kernel cleanly with the ck12 patch without any problems. However, after rebooting I am not able to get past the login screen. The first time I logged in I got that message that my home directory is /home/loc but that it does not exist. So to check, I booted into failsafe mode and it turned out that it was gone. In fact the home directory was empty. I then reverted back to the ol
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> This time when I logged in I got this message:
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> "Users's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the defaultsession and language from being saved. File should be owned by user andhave 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user andnot writable by other users."
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> Do I need to copy the directory with some kind of special permissionother than just using Sudo? I have compiled 3 to 4 times now both withand without the patch and each time I have not been able to get pastthe login screen.
[12:57] <Kyral> NO PASTE!
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'd love to get this working.
[12:57] <LuckyCharms21> sorry
[12:57] <molo> I can't login because my disk is full. What would be the best way to remove some files? I've tried removing files via the GUI in ubuntu, but my free diskspace does not increase.
[12:57] <seanieb64> !pastebiin
[12:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, seanieb64
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> Kasuko: Because you are running xgl and it is alpha software ?
[12:57] <seanieb64> !pastebin
[12:57] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:57] <Kyral> ubotu tell Cntryboy about RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <Kasuko>  h3sp4wn: can you tell me how to disable it
[12:58] <Kasuko>  h3sp4wn: the shortcut not xgl
[12:58] <h3sp4wn> Kasuko: Are you running xgl ?
[12:58] <seanieb64> !RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <ubotu> see !restricted
[12:58] <seanieb64> !restricted
[12:58] <Kasuko>  h3sp4wn: yes
[12:58] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[12:58] <Cntryboy> kyral, my windows are screwed up
[12:58] <wogi> Kyral: Ah well. I mean, I'm going to keep ubuntu, though I see that other distribution appears to have it prepackaged. Is it terribly difficult to build a pkg then?
[12:58] <Cntryboy> does totem rely on codecs or not?
[12:58] <h3sp4wn> Kasuko: Don't know the simple way is to not use xgl
[12:58] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[12:58] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find a guide to using GPA? i dont understand how to let a friend decrypt a file that i have encrypted with my key, even though he has my public key...
[12:58] <Kyral> Cntryboy: Default it relies on GStreamer
[12:59] <Sivik> Cntryboy, try installing vlc, it already has most of the codecs installed
[12:59] <Kyral> which in turn relies on codecs
[12:59] <Cntryboy> okay
[12:59] <Cntryboy> so get vlc then right
[12:59] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I'm trying to access a shared folder on a windows machine, and have followed the instructions on the "mountwindowsshares" page, but I get the following error when trying to mount -a:
[12:59] <RemyLaptop> david@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a
[12:59] <RemyLaptop> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //10.0.0.18/c,
[12:59] <RemyLaptop>        missing codepage or other error
[12:59] <RemyLaptop>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:59] <RemyLaptop>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:59] <Kyral> You won't be able to play things like WMV, Real Media, or a host of others because they are propreitary bastards
[12:59] <Cntryboy> let me find the site
[12:59] <Kyral> NO PASTE!!!
[12:59] <Sivik> Cntryboy, thats how i watch most of my stuff
[12:59] <Cntryboy> I can't play wmv with vlc?
[12:59] <Kyral> No
[12:59] <RemyLaptop> /10.0.0.18/c /media/workcomp smbfs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[12:59] <Sivik> Cntryboy, you can, i do it
[12:59] <RemyLaptop> that's the line in /etc/fstab
[01:00] <Cntryboy> okay
[01:00] <Sivik> Kyral, i do it all the time, everything but wmv3
[01:00] <RemyLaptop> (two // at the start)
[01:00] <Cntryboy> let me find the site
[01:00] <Kyral> You really think you would be able to play a MICROSOFT format on Linux
[01:00] <Cntryboy> is it www.vlc.org?
[01:00] <rambo3> molo, rm -rf  /home/$(whoami)/.Trash/*
[01:00] <Sivik> Cntryboy, no, do it via apt-get, its alot easier
[01:00] <Kyral> the king of all proprietary stuff
[01:00] <crimsun_> videolan.org/vlc/
[01:00] <molo> rambo: ah ha!
[01:00] <Kyral> the enemy of the GPL
[01:00] <Cntryboy> so type sudo apt-get install vlc?
[01:00] <Sivik> Cntryboy, your in ubuntu right
[01:00] <Cntryboy> im new to linux
[01:00] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[01:00] <Cntryboy> so I was right?
[01:00] <seanieb64> I need something to play  a WMA stream...:(
[01:00] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[01:00] <Cntryboy> kk thx
[01:00] <Kyral> wogi: Arch uses a different format....
[01:00] <Sivik> seanieb64, vlc
[01:01] <seanieb64> which is...?
[01:01] <Kyral> WMVs should be avoided
[01:01] <Kyral> They taint the system
[01:01] <Sivik> Kyral, i do it all the time
[01:01] <Kyral> I am not allowed to
[01:01] <Sivik> Kyral, why not?
[01:01] <Kyral> Because. I belong to the Free Software Foundation
[01:01] <Sivik> Kyral: ah
[01:01] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Do you use a tainted kernel ?
[01:02] <Kyral> It goes against my philosopy to use them
[01:02] <Cntryboy> shit I have to set the thing first
[01:02] <wogi> Kyral: Right. So I can't use the arch package, I understand.  I'll just need to find some tutorial for building a .deb package from source.
[01:02] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: howso?
[01:02] <Sivik> Cntryboy, what thing?
[01:02] <Kyral> The Beyond patchset is GPL
[01:02] <wogi> Kyral: Thanks!
[01:02] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[01:02] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:02] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[01:02] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: I.e with binary blobs in it
[01:02] <Cntryboy> where I put check mark by a program
[01:02] <Kyral> only blob is the NVidia driver
[01:02] <Gambit--> remind me, how do I tell if I already have a package installed?
[01:02] <seanieb64> NO PASTE!
[01:02] <seanieb64> !pastebin
[01:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[01:02] <Sivik> Cntryboy, do you have a bunch of the repos open
[01:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, pastebin your sources.list file
[01:03] <Cntryboy> k
[01:03] <Cntryboy> sorry
[01:03] <Cntryboy> umm
[01:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, tis alright, do you know how to do that
[01:03] <Cntryboy> thats what im talking bout I think I have to go to repositorys
[01:03] <Sivik> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <Cntryboy> and put a check right
[01:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, no
[01:03] <stephan__> can anyone get dappper and azuerors to work
[01:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, remove the #
[01:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, for the ones you want to use, anything that has a url
[01:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, and you might have to add extra lines
[01:03] <Cntryboy> remove what #
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: If you don't use nvidia I am just interested as to what cards you use for semi decent performance (without tainting the kernel)
[01:04] <Cntryboy> you lost me bro
[01:04] <Cntryboy> i installed xchat by putting a check mark
[01:04] <Cntryboy> aftering I tried apt-get install failed
[01:04] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: the older ATI cards are supposed to have open source drivers
[01:04] <Cntryboy> synaptic package program
[01:04] <Cntryboy> is what I used
[01:04] <Sivik> Cntryboy, don't do it via the program, go into terminal
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Only the very old ones though
[01:04] <Kyral> oh for fun install "vrms"
[01:04] <Cntryboy> I did type what you said in terminal
[01:04] <Cntryboy> couln't find package vlc
[01:04] <spikeb> h3sp4wn: older ati cards or intel cards
[01:05] <Kyral> Virtual Richard M Stallman :P
[01:05] <spikeb> chipsets i mean
[01:05] <gnomefreak> !info vlc
[01:05] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), Packaged size: 7620 kB, Installed size: 18808 kB
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: enable universe repository
[01:05] <Cntryboy> not sure how to do that im new sorry
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> spikeb: Is it possible to get similar or better performance to a radeon 9800pro (using fglrx) with a fully open source card ?
[01:05] <Cntryboy> im looking in synaptic package installer
[01:06] <Cntryboy> to see if its listed to apply it
[01:06] <Sivik> go into terminal
[01:06] <ericz> heh, vrms only reports 3 non-free packages, .2% of 1266 installed
[01:06] <Kyral> thing scans your installed software and reports on Non-Free things :P
[01:06] <spikeb> h3sp4wn: probably not
[01:06] <Sivik> to hell with the synaptic program
[01:06] <rambo3> !tell Cntryboy about repos
[01:06] <eXistenZ> in ddns3-client they're asking for a host and handle, what's the difference?
[01:06] <stephan__> can anyone get dappper and azuerors to work
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: go to settings and than reposiroties iirc
[01:06] <Sivik> do you know how to talk in PM
[01:06] <Kyral> ericz: lemme guess them. Java, NVidia, and Shockwave
[01:06] <Sivik> Cntryboy, do you know how to talk in pm?
[01:06] <ericz> java, skype, and unrar-nonfree
[01:06] <Cntryboy> i am to u now sivik
[01:06] <administrador> #ubuntu-es
[01:06] <ericz> i do have nvidia-glx though, figured that'd show
[01:06] <Kyral> It might show as Linux-Restricted-Modules
[01:07] <darkowl> hello
[01:07] <Sivik> Cntryboy, it should come up as a seperate tab
[01:07] <darkowl> can you guys help me... i cant install ubuntu from my live cd...
[01:07] <duelboot> stephan__, yes, I have but prefer bittornado client
[01:07] <jdmpike> how do we get packages put in the repos?
[01:07] <Sivik> Cntryboy, are you in x-chat or irssi?
[01:07] <Kyral> jdmpike: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[01:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell jdmpike about motu
[01:08] <jdmpike> I would like to request that slcreator gets added to the repos
[01:08] <Cntryboy> are u going to talk here or in pm?
[01:08] <Kyral> jdmpike: lemme ask right now. What is its license
[01:08] <Cntryboy> I said hey to u
[01:08] <Sivik> i didn't get it
[01:08] <bimberi> darkowl: vague. what error do you get?
[01:08] <Cntryboy> i seen where u said hey
[01:08] <Cntryboy> odd
[01:08] <Sivik> "/query Sivik"
[01:08] <RemyLaptop> can anyone help with samba?
[01:08] <B1zz> maybe he no registered.....
[01:08] <LuckyCharms21> Can anyone help with Kernel
[01:09] <darkowl> bimberi: i dont get any error i click on install icon on desktop but nothing happens...
[01:09] <Sivik> LuckyCharms21, what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <Cntryboy> I guess you can't do it
[01:09] <Cntryboy> see it i mean
[01:09] <Cntryboy> so what should I do sivik
[01:09] <LuckyCharms21> I recompiled kernel 2.6.16 with ck12 patch and rebooted but it won';t allow me to login
[01:09] <Sivik> no
[01:09] <LuckyCharms21> it keeps telling me that my /home/loc directory does not exist
[01:09] <Sivik> Cntryboy, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <Sivik> Cntryboy, from terminal
[01:10] <rambo3> LuckyCharms21, maby its in lost+found
[01:10] <LuckyCharms21> hmmm...i'll check
[01:10] <pudland> anyone have google earth installed?
[01:10] <Cntryboy> im there
[01:10] <Sivik> Cntryboy, ok, delete whats there
[01:10] <ericz> pudland: i do, i'm on breezy though, if that matters
[01:10] <Sivik> and copy the information from here: http://pastebin.com/711834
[01:10] <bimberi> darkowl: run the command in a terminal,  right-click, properties on the icon to find out what the command is
[01:10] <Cntryboy> everything?
[01:10] <Sivik> ericz, why are you still in breezy
[01:10] <ericz> laziness
[01:10] <Sivik> lol
[01:11] <wastrel> upgrading is a pain
[01:11] <Sivik> no its not
[01:11] <Sivik> its easy
[01:11] <wastrel> no it is a pain
[01:11] <Sivik> not it wasn't
[01:11] <ericz> and i tried it out, the rc7 or w/e it was, and it wasn't being friendly to my dual monitors
[01:11] <wastrel> wasn't for you
[01:11] <Sivik> wastrel, what makes it so hard?
[01:11] <wastrel> :p
[01:11] <darkowl> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ gksudo --desktop %k ubiquity gtkui
[01:11] <darkowl> ** (gksudo:8251): WARNING **: Could not load desktop file: No such file or directory
[01:11] <wastrel> reconfigulating everything so it works again
[01:11] <MdSalih> when installing dapper 6.06... is it possible to get it to auto set up the partitions (ext3 & swap).. like how it did in v.5 ?
[01:11] <darkowl> this is what I get
[01:11] <Cntryboy> ill paste you what info is there sivik to paste bin
[01:11] <Cntryboy> scared to delete that info
[01:11] <MdSalih> it keeps crashing on me when i try and setup the parition tables
[01:11] <Sivik> no
[01:12] <pudland> ericz: it shows the splash but quits then... no message
[01:12] <Sivik> Cntryboy, ok, then don't delete it, commit it out (# at the beginning) and then copy my info over
[01:12] <meheren> can anyone tell me the rename command?
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> move
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> mv
[01:12] <ericz> pudland: odd - mine works fine...
[01:12] <gnomefreak> meheren: mv
[01:12] <wastrel> MdSalih:  are you using the gui installer?  you can go back to the old style installre
[01:12] <pudland> howd you install
[01:12] <ubuntu> uh
[01:12] <SteveB> i can't get my wifi card working for the life of me
[01:12] <meheren> gnomefreak, with what exstension?
[01:12] <ericz> pudland: the .bin
[01:12] <Cntryboy> let me paste you what it says first
[01:12] <Cntryboy> at paste bin if it ever loads
[01:12] <SteveB> i usually use WPA, but just to simplifyy things, i disabled WPA
[01:12] <Sivik> wastrel, i used apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:12] <Cntryboy> what am I even doing btw
[01:12] <gnomefreak> meheren: mv /path/to/file /path/to/file/newname
[01:12] <SteveB> and so with no wireless security, sudo ifup eth1 doesn't work
[01:13] <pudland> sh ./blahblah.gin?
[01:13] <duelboot> SteveB, what card is it?
[01:13] <meheren> gnomefreak, oh ok thx
[01:13] <pudland> .bin
[01:13] <zax1> does any one know how i get to the repositories through a gui on Xubuntu ?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> meheren: or cd into the dir than just use the filename
[01:13] <SteveB> duelboot: lan-express ieee 802.11b
[01:13] <zax1> i cant find synaptic or the other one
[01:13] <Sivik> Cntryboy, does that make sense
[01:13] <duelboot> SteveB, sorry not familiar with it...what chipset does it have?
[01:13] <ericz> pudland: i just made it executable [chmod]  then sudo ./GoogleEarthInstall.bin or w/e it was... sudo made it install to like /usr/something instead of my home directory..
[01:13] <SteveB> duelboot: prism2
[01:13] <LuckyCharms21> nope not there.......I reverted back to the old kernel and backed up my home directory and copied it into a backup folder.  When I rebooted with the new kernel and attempted to login in again I got the same message.  With that said, I then copied my backup /home/loc folder into where it need to be using the sudo cp command.  When I did that and tried to login again I then got this message: "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignore
[01:14] <LuckyCharms21> sorry for the long post
[01:14] <Cntryboy> does what make sense too much scroll here
[01:14] <Cntryboy> do u have aim?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> Mewshi: lets say you have a file named oops and you want to name it oopsy in your home dir you would use mv oops oopsy
[01:14] <LuckyCharms21> yes
[01:14] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[01:14] <Sivik> Cntryboy, Sivik30
[01:14] <bimberi> darkowl: hm, that's just a warning, but i can't find anything relevant sorry.  You might have to try the alernate CD :/
[01:14] <Cntryboy> kk
[01:14] <duelboot> SteveB, did you download linux-wlan-ng?
[01:14] <SteveB> duelboot: yeah i think
[01:14] <pudland> ericz: hhhmmm, i didnt chmod, but it showed up in applications
[01:14] <SteveB> duelboot: not sure what to do after that though
[01:14] <darkowl> i have server cd but it doesnt have gui :(
[01:14] <Cntryboy> says ur offline sivik
[01:14] <Cntryboy> aim that is
[01:15] <pudland> ericz: chmod a+x???
[01:15] <ericz> pudland: when i got the bin, it was like 644, and wouldn't execute, had to chmod +x
[01:15] <Sivik> Cntryboy, i'm geting
[01:15] <SteveB> duelboot: when i try to ifup, i keep getting this over and over: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[01:15] <SteveB> until it gives up
[01:15] <duelboot> SteveB, open or encryption?
[01:15] <RemyLaptop> never mind, sorted :)
[01:16] <SteveB> duelboot: i usually use WPA, but i just left it open for now to get it working
[01:16] <bimberi> darkowl: you could do a server install and then install ubuntu-desktop from the 'net
[01:16] <SteveB> duelboot: look
[01:16] <SteveB> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[01:16] <SteveB> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[01:16] <SteveB> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[01:16] <SteveB> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[01:16] <duelboot> SteveB, use pastebin for more than 2 lines
[01:16] <pudland> ericz: i have the latest ati drivers and xorg... i'll chmod and try again
[01:16] <gnomefreak> SteveB: dont paste in here
[01:16] <Cntryboy> steveb do u live in tn
[01:16] <SteveB> duelboot: it was 2 lines i accidentally pasted twice
[01:16] <SteveB> Cntryboy: no
[01:16] <Cntryboy> okay
[01:16] <SteveB> duelboot: anyways, how do i fix that
[01:17] <duelboot> you have any other wireless cards working?
[01:17] <SteveB> this is the only one
[01:17] <SteveB> im currently connected by eth0
[01:17] <duelboot> okay...and you are running dhcp on the router (I know potentially stupid question)...
[01:17] <duelboot> ?
[01:18] <SteveB> duelboot: yes
[01:18] <administrador> unix-es
[01:18] <administrador> #unix-es
[01:18] <duelboot> SteveB, do you know how to use tcpdump?
[01:18] <Matafome> acho k berrou a ventoinha do dissipador
[01:18] <SteveB> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[01:18] <SteveB> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[01:18] <SteveB> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[01:18] <SteveB> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[01:18] <SteveB> duelboot: no
[01:18] <Sivik> SteveB, use pastebin
[01:18] <pudland> ericz: ahhh, same thing. splash then nothing
[01:18] <Matafome> sorry wrong channel
[01:18] <SteveB> wtf
[01:18] <gnomefreak> SteveB: dont do it again
[01:18] <adamant1988> stephan, I've been using azureus
[01:18] <SteveB> it was an accident
[01:18] <Sivik> !tell SteveB about pastebin
[01:18] <SteveB> i dont even know how the hell i did that
[01:19] <Talisker> Sorry for asking again but this channels increased activity got your answer out of my buffer before I could read it but
[01:19] <SteveB> god dammit i KNOW what pastebin is
[01:19] <ericz> pudland: sorry.. don't know what to tell you :/ someone in here must know
[01:19] <Talisker> How do I install the dependency tree I need for building a certein package
[01:19] <Talisker> ?
[01:19] <duelboot> !language
[01:19] <Talisker> install-dep?
[01:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:19] <pudland> ericz: thanks
[01:19] <wastrel> apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[01:19] <wastrel> iirc
[01:19] <pudland> ericz: it is beta!!!
[01:19] <meheren> ls *.jpg | sed 's/.jpg//' | $j = 001 | while read i ; do mv "$i.jpg" "dog$j.jpg" ; done | $j++
[01:19] <meheren> why won't this command work?
[01:19] <administrador> #debian-es
[01:19] <SteveB> what the heck happened
[01:19] <meheren> it sasy unkown command '=' '++'
[01:19] <Talisker> You "!language" people for "god damnit"?
[01:19] <duelboot> SteveB, your language got you booted
[01:19] <SteveB> oh
[01:19] <SteveB> ok
[01:20] <SteveB> let me straighten things out
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> blasphemy
[01:20] <SteveB> i know what pastebin is, and it was an accident
[01:20] <SteveB> im not stupid
[01:20] <wastrel> Talisker:  apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[01:20] <SteveB> now can we try to get this to work :/
[01:20] <duelboot> SteveB, are you a registered user?
[01:20] <SteveB> duelboot: on freenode?
[01:20] <duelboot> yes
[01:20] <Talisker> thanks
[01:20] <Talisker> Err...
[01:20] <[SteveB] > now i am
[01:20] <Draconicus> I'm working on a semi-broken PPC Ubuntu installation. I need to get Rhythmbox to play mp3s. What do I need? I've already installed the gstreamer stuff...
[01:20] <Talisker> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[01:20] <meheren>  ls *.jpg | sed 's/.jpg//' | $j = 001 | while read i ; do mv "$i.jpg" "dog$j.jpg" ; done | $j++
[01:20] <meheren> can someone explain to me an equivelent command that works...?
[01:21] <wastrel> getting a little pipe happy
[01:21] <duelboot> [SteveB] , see PM
[01:21] <pudland> ericz: i just saw it gave a seg fault
[01:21] <meheren> wastrel, me? sry :(
[01:21] <Talisker> apt-get update also generates some errors that weren't there before
[01:21] <Sivik> Talisker, what kind of errors?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Talisker -about us
[01:21] <Talisker> Did the ubuntu guys move some repos around?
[01:21] <administrador> #debian-es
[01:21] <duelboot> [SteveB] , send pm to me and we'll discuss there
[01:22] <wastrel> heh no worries.
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Talisker: use the command ubotu gave you than run apt-get update
[01:22] <ardinary> hlo
[01:22] <lib8264q> hello all :)
[01:22] <twobitspr1te> !bugs
[01:22] <twobitspr1te> !bug
[01:22] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:23] <lib8264q> !dvd
[01:23] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:23] <ardinary> I mean, hello, I am thinking of upgrading to the latest version of ubuntu and I don't want to have anything not work, am I really missing out on anything if I don't upgrade?
[01:23] <wastrel> meheren:  you might want to look at   man rename
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ardinary: upgrade to dapper
[01:23] <Draconicus> Wow. Active today? :P
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ardinary: you should be fine than
[01:23] <meheren> wastrel, ok
[01:23] <ardinary> gnomefreak, if I'm not fine...
[01:24] <Nixdorf> how to use IP in wget ?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ardinary: depends on what is not fine
[01:24] <Draconicus> I needs the mp3s in rhythmbox.
[01:24] <lib8264q> hi just wondering if you download the dvd iso  i asume it has files that can be used for  off line installation of extra programs ????
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ardinary: i cant read the future nor can i read minds
[01:24] <gnomefreak> lib8264q: yes
[01:24] <Draconicus> It's for my dear, dear great grandmother, who will scream at me if she can't listen to music easily on her new computer.
[01:24] <lib8264q> cool ..
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Draconicus about mp3
[01:25] <ardinary> Will I have to close any programs?
[01:25] <ardinary> I donut wanna do that.
[01:25] <lib8264q> does that include  extra files the system my need as well
[01:25] <lib8264q> ?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ardinary: after the upgrade you will have to reboot
[01:25] <Draconicus> gnomefreak: I already installed the gstreamer stuff mentioned on the Restricted Formats wiki page.
[01:25] <bobbyd> how do I change the default site apache2 shows?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: try with a different player than if you read and installed what is needed for mp3
[01:26] <Draconicus> gnomefreak: I need something that's compatible with an 86 year old woman with bad vision.
[01:26] <piratepenguin> bobbyd: add your site to /var/www/
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: i dont know you/she would need to try different things
[01:27] <Draconicus> gnomefreak: Why can't you just help me make rhythmbox work? You're making Ubuntu look bad by telling me that programs designed to work with it won't work.
[01:27] <bobbyd> piratepenguin, I've done that already, but it goes to apache-default i want it to go to "gallery" ...
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: i can rewrite the code for rythem box if you like
[01:27] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: dont be stupid
[01:27] <Draconicus> gnomefreak: That's not what's necessary.
[01:28] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: its not your responsibility
[01:28] <Kyral> bobbyd: edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[01:28] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: you make his rythem box play what it doesnt play on anyones pc
[01:28] <bobbyd> Kyral, thanks :) !
[01:28] <molo> When I try to mount a network computer as /media/share I get the error that mount can't get address for smb
[01:28] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: not me either
[01:28] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: it was sarcastic
[01:28] <Draconicus> Somebody is forgetting to punctuate.
[01:28] <YogSothoth> Hi
[01:29] <kbrooks> Draconicus: who, me?
[01:29] <Draconicus> kbrooks: No. :P
[01:29] <kbrooks> Draconicus: gnomefreak?
[01:29] <ardinary> who is forgetting to punctuate
[01:29] <piratepenguin> I amnt
[01:29] <YogSothoth> Help! I just did a sudo chmod /etc g-x and now I can't sudo anymore. How can I repair this?
[01:29] <Draconicus> gnomefreak. :P
[01:30] <Draconicus> Not to be rude. I'm just having trouble reading what you're saying, gnomefreak.
[01:30] <bimberi> YogSothoth: recovery mode (option on the grub boot menu)
[01:30] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: i said read the restricted formats page everything to get mp3 is there if it doesnt work with rythembox use a different player
[01:30] <YogSothoth> thanks bimberi !
[01:30] <YogSothoth> exit
[01:31] <[SteveB] > how do i install kismet...is it masked or something?
[01:31] <jahshua> Draconicus silly billy
[01:31] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: not all formats play on all players
[01:31] <zelevw> hi...what port does gnome-btdownload listen on? thanks
[01:32] <owen_> hi all, does anyone have any experience with ut2004demo? specifically the amd64 version?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: if you are _sure_ you have all the codecs for it than noone can _make_ it play the formnat you are trying to in most cases  but my player doesnt play mp3's isnt really telling us much
[01:32] <[SteveB] > how do i install kismet...is it masked or something? same thing with aircrack :/
[01:32] <[SteveB] > apt doesnt say it exists but packages.ubuntu.com says it does
[01:33] <gnomefreak> !info kismet
[01:33] <ubotu> kismet: (Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), Packaged size: 910 kB, Installed size: 2408 kB
[01:33] <gnomefreak> [SteveB] : enable universe repo
[01:33] <[SteveB] > gnomefreak: i dont know how
[01:33] <[SteveB] > gnomefreak: howto/tutorial/tell me
[01:33] <[SteveB] > lol
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell [SteveB]  -about universe
[01:33] <[SteveB] > gnomefreak: thanks
[01:35] <Geoffrey2> that was interesting...log in to Ubuntu, update icon appears, click on it, 59 udpates available.....?
[01:35] <Stroganoff> is there a way to permanently activate "browse for other folders" in gtk save/open dialog?
[01:35] <nekostar> zomg
[01:35] <wastrel> Stroganoff:  if you find out, let me know.
[01:35] <nekostar> nvidia FAILS with the new server kernel -25 update ~_~
[01:36] <nekostar> !!! i cant seem to compile the module right... help>>????
[01:36] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nekostar
[01:37] <chris_> im trying to backup my proftpd and apache settings someone help me out please?
[01:37] <LoWhat> hi
[01:37] <chris_> should i just burn my etc folder?
[01:37] <LoWhat> i'm trying to install ATI drivers on Dapper following the 2nd method of: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[01:38] <LoWhat> but when i'm with sudo dpkg -i xorg-driver-fglrx_8.25.18-1_i386.deb it gives me the next error:
[01:38] <soaz> hi
[01:38] <Fjodor> chris_: That would be overkill. /etc/proftpd.conf and /etc/apache2 should do it
[01:38] <LoWhat> dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'
[01:38] <LoWhat> dpkg: error al procesar xorg-driver-fglrx_8.25.18-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:38] <chris_> Fjodor thank you :)
[01:38] <LoWhat> can anyone help me?
[01:39] <nekostar> fuck this
[01:39] <Fjodor> chris_: Np
[01:39] <Geoffrey2> oh, when the kernel update installed, it added two additional lines to grub....I'm assuming that's to allow a kernel rollback in case something major breaks with the update...will that remain in grub, or does it dissapear after a few boot-ups?
[01:39] <chris_> Fjodor theres protection :|
[01:39] <apokryphos> nekostar: come on, language please.
[01:39] <bimberi> Geoffrey2: it will stay until you remove the old kernel package
[01:40] <chris_> Fjodor how would i burn it?
[01:40] <bimberi> Geoffrey2: linux-image package to be more precise
[01:40] <chris_> theres protection?
[01:40] <hardyy> Hello !
[01:40] <Fjodor> chris_: But of course there is. You should be able to sudo cp, and then sudo chown -R user:user dir_you_copied_to, and then burn the dir
[01:40] <Geoffrey2> oh, it was actually installing a new image and not just updating an existing one?
[01:41] <chris_> whats sudo cp?:P
[01:41] <Cntryboy> hey all how do I install vlc?
[01:41] <bimberi> Geoffrey2: yes
[01:41] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:41] <KanRiNiN> !h264
[01:41] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KanRiNiN
[01:41] <Cntryboy> I did but
[01:41] <RemyLaptop> question:  I have a 3.1gig file that I'm trying to copy onto a windows machine, but it'll only copy 2 gig... anyone know why?
[01:41] <KanRiNiN> hmm
[01:41] <hardyy> Just updated to DApper, and I have and error with gnome-setttings-daemon
[01:41] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[01:41] <hardyy>  System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did
[01:41] <RemyLaptop> Is there any way to break that file up into smaller files and then join the together again ?
[01:42] <wastrel> yes
[01:42] <RemyLaptop> I'm doing the copying via samba...
[01:42] <hardyy> this error happens when I try to start a gnome session
[01:42] <Fjodor> chris_: as in mkdir burn, then sudo cp -r /etc/{proftpd.conf,apache2} burn, then sudo chown -R your_username:your_username burn
[01:42] <Cntryboy> nekostar did ya see what I typed?
[01:42] <Centaur5> Does anybody know how I can get the headphone jack on my laptop's Intel 82801G sound card?
[01:42] <Fjodor> chris_: Then burn that dir
[01:42] <nekostar> what?
[01:42] <nekostar> u asked how to install vlc
[01:42] <freddyubuntu> can somebody please tell me what is the diffreence of  VMWare Server and VMWare player ?
[01:42] <Cntryboy> I said I tried that but I get this E: Couldn't find package vlc
[01:42] <nekostar> i answered :P
[01:43] <hardyy> Searching in Google, I have found this page: http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10822
[01:43] <nekostar> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:43] <Cntryboy> and I told you I tried that but got error E: Couldn't find package vlc
[01:43] <nekostar> add  " universe multiverse "
[01:43] <nekostar> to each line
[01:43] <slew> hi whats a great mp3 editor for gnome/ubuntu without loading any kde stuff?
[01:43] <chris_> Fjodor how about all the etc files?
[01:43] <nekostar> sudo apt-get update
[01:43] <Cntryboy> ok
[01:43] <chris_> and folders*
[01:43] <hardyy> But the info showed there don't helps me to solve my problem
[01:43] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:43] <chris_> :)
[01:43] <Cntryboy> k
[01:43] <Cntryboy> let me try thx
[01:43] <chris_> why not only 400mb?
[01:43] <freddyubuntu> which one do I need to run windows xp in my ubuntu ? "VMware Server" or "VMWare player'?
[01:43] <hardyy> doens any have any clue to solve this error ?
[01:44] <Fjodor> chris_: Actually, come to think of it, you might be better off just burning with sudo...
[01:44] <chris_> ok sudo it is
[01:44] <Fjodor> chris_: Which app do you use for burning?
[01:44] <Cntryboy> add  " universe multiverse " after the # ?
[01:44] <chris_> how to?
[01:44] <Cntryboy> and with the colons or with out
[01:44] <RemyLaptop> Is there a 'rar' program for ubuntu ?
[01:44] <chris_> kd3 or something
[01:44] <freddyubuntu> anybody  here knows anything about VMWare ?
[01:44] <chris_> k3b
[01:44] <wastrel> rar is in multiverse
[01:44] <Cntryboy> nekostar add  " universe multiverse " after # symbol?
[01:44] <freddyubuntu> I want to know the diffrence of VMWare Server and VMWare Player
[01:45] <chris_> RemyLaptop try emulating winrar ;)
[01:45] <Fjodor> chris_: Try running sudo k3b from a terminal. Then it is running as the root user, that can do everything
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> freddyubuntu: Player you can't create vm's
[01:45] <freddyubuntu> what if I make a file by easyvmx.com ?
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> freddyubuntu: The latest qemu with kqemu is almost as fast as vmare now
[01:45] <chris_> ok thanks Fjodor
[01:45] <KanRiNiN> does totem use mplayer as a backdrop? because it looks like mine plays h264 horribly, so maybe I should compile from SVN
[01:46] <Cntryboy> nekostar ya still here?
[01:46] <freddyubuntu> I want to run windows xp ...
[01:46] <Geoffrey2> bimberi, interesting, because the package manager only shows one two images as being installed, linux-image-2.6.15-25-386 and linux-image-386
[01:46] <Fjodor> chris_: Np, glad to help
[01:46] <freddyubuntu> what do you offer
[01:46] <freddyubuntu> i want to run it in Ubuntu
[01:46] <freddyubuntu> should I follow this How to on the forum , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[01:46] <gahan> after i upgraded to dapper my multimedia keys dont work with xmms-xf86audio anymore and they're still binded in ystem -> preferences -> hotkeys (gnome). is there anything i can do or is it just broken?
[01:46] <chris_> Fjodor i think it could work :)
[01:46] <Cntryboy> does anyone know if I had  " universe multiverse " b4 or after the # symbol on the ones which have them in source.list
[01:46] <chris_> well see ;)
[01:47] <Fjodor> chris_: I should think so too :-)
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> Cntryboy: Come again?
[01:47] <chris_> burning the whole ETC folder
[01:47] <chris_> why not only 400mb :)
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> Cntryboy: If you want them to be enabled, you need to remove the #.
[01:47] <chris_> i mean 40 mb
[01:47] <Cntryboy> tony I'm trying install vlc and someone wanted me to add  " universe multiverse " to each line at source.list
[01:48] <Cntryboy> some guy said add a # to each line
[01:48] <LjL> !universe
[01:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:48] <Cntryboy> im confused ppl tell me differe. things :(
[01:48] <Fjodor> chris_: Good pint :-)
[01:48] <Cntryboy> thx ljl
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> Cntryboy: I'd recommend reading the link just posted - that should clear it up.
[01:48] <Fjodor> chris_: point
[01:48] <LjL> and...
[01:48] <LjL> !think
[01:48] <ubotu> Think before you type. If someone in the channel tells you to type a command, don't rush to type it. Use "man <command>" to see what it does first, and perhaps try a Google search.
[01:48] <nekostar> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[01:48] <freddyubuntu> does anybody know any Good Tutorial for Qmeu or Vmware to install windows XP Inside ubuntu ?
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> !qemu
[01:49] <ubotu> it has been said that qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[01:49] <lib8264q> ubuntu dvd  is it a text based install or windows based ?
[01:49] <nekostar> Cntryboy,
[01:49] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15786
[01:49] <chrismurf> I know ubuntu switched to launchpad for bugs, but where do enhancement requests go now?  Not seeing where I differentiate...
[01:50] <nekostar> just change your sources file to that
[01:50] <KanRiNiN> question:  If I apt-get remove totem-xine and replace it with gstreamer, since that's why rhythmbox uses, will it look its ability to play xvid and H264?
[01:50] <nekostar> KanRiNiN, naw
[01:50] <nekostar> but u might have lil prollems with dvd's
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> chrismurf: You can either submit a "wishlist" bug, or suggest a spec for a future release.
[01:50] <nekostar> you dont have to remove the -xine to install the gstreamer as it does it automagically
[01:50] <chopchop_> i've just upgrade ubuntu then the font of my machine is broken. any solution?
[01:50] <chrismurf> tonyyarusso, thank you
[01:51] <nekostar> chopchop_, this is not a good upgrade jump :/
[01:51] <shakma> howdy, all.  Just installed Dapper Drake and I have NO internet connectivity (I'm on through XP right now).  I've seen this problem mentioned, but no solutions... any help?
[01:51] <nekostar> but check system > preferences > font
[01:51] <nekostar> shakma, ya
[01:51] <nekostar> first did old ubuntu handle the drivers?
[01:51] <nekostar> did the live ?
[01:51] <chopchop_> nekostar: what do you mean?
[01:51] <nekostar> if so
[01:52] <RemyLaptop> so does anyone know how to get a 3 gig file from here onto my windows machine?  using samba it only appears to copy 2 gig of it...
[01:52] <nekostar> system > administration > networking
[01:52] <shakma> did the live, but then the full install
[01:52] <nekostar> and make sure its dhcp // static as watever
[01:52] <nekostar> which it shold be
[01:52] <LjL> RemyLaptop: perhaps install an FTP server, dunno
[01:52] <shakma> ethernet adapter is detected, dhcp is on
[01:52] <nekostar> then make sure to click on the activate button there
[01:52] <shakma> says it's activated... but there's no activity!
[01:52] <holoturoide> boa noite
[01:52] <nekostar> chopchop_, ive seen a lot of problems with the upgrade
[01:52] <nekostar> and had a lot
[01:53] <nekostar> shakma, um
[01:53] <chopchop_> any one know how to get the old font back?
[01:53] <nekostar> chopchop_, just told u
[01:53] <nekostar> read up
[01:53] <nekostar> shakma,
[01:53] <shakma> yo
[01:53] <nekostar> click deactivate
[01:53] <nekostar> then activate
[01:53] <chopchop_> nekostar: you mean i have to reinstall
[01:53] <nekostar> then in term ::
[01:53] <chopchop_> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:53] <wastrel> chopchop_:  what font
[01:53] <nekostar> ping google.com
[01:53] <nekostar> chopchop_, NO
[01:53] <shakma> yeah, tried that :(
[01:54] <nekostar> read higher chopchop_
[01:54] <Gradius9> hello
[01:54] <nekostar> system > preferences > font !!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:54] <chopchop_> wastrel: it gets smaller than ever
[01:54] <slew> hi can someone tell me what package contains libmp3lame.so?
[01:54] <Gradius9> hm. anyone who uses ubuntu headless with vnc (without a monitor)?
[01:54] <RemyLaptop> !ftp
[01:54] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[01:54] <nekostar> also check system > preferences > screen resolution
[01:54] <nekostar> !google
[01:54] <ubotu> hmm... google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[01:54] <nickrud> !find  libmp3lame.so
[01:55] <nekostar> ok back to shakma
[01:55] <chopchop_> nekostar: im using xfce
[01:55] <wastrel> chopchop_:  did you look at  system > preferences > font   like nekostar said?
[01:55] <wastrel> ah nvm
[01:55] <Draconicus> So, can somebody help me get rhythmbox working?
[01:55] <slew> oh i didnt know there was a !find feature
[01:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libmp3lame.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so) in multiverse/libdevel/liblame-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp3lame.so.0|libmp3lame.so.0.0.0}) in multiverse/libs/liblame0.
[01:55] <nekostar> chopchop_, same shit
[01:55] <nekostar> check the control panel and fonts or settings fonts or watever
[01:55] <nekostar> meh
[01:55] <nekostar> shakma, so then
[01:55] <shakma> yeah.  no dice
[01:55] <nekostar> look at the dns tab on the network settings window
[01:55] <chopchop_> nekostar: there is nothing related to font in settings
[01:55] <nekostar> does it show dns server ?
[01:55] <shakma> ok
[01:55] <KanRiNiN> nekostar: gstreamer is much better at handling my nero videos.  thanks!
[01:55] <nekostar> does it show domain ?
[01:56] <shakma> no
[01:56] <nekostar> chopchop_, then
[01:56] <shakma> it's blank
[01:56] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <nickrud> slew, there's also apt-file , it'll put access to that info on your box
[01:56] <nekostar> shakma, your behind a router ?
[01:56] <chopchop_> nekostar: is it 'gnome-font-properties'
[01:56] <nekostar> chopchop_, sure try that
[01:56] <sdfsdf> anyone here familiar with macromedia fireworks
[01:56] <shakma> no.  i'm directly connected to my dsl modem
[01:56] <nekostar> anything font related is a good step
[01:56] <nekostar> shakma, ok
[01:57] <nekostar> does that modem handle more than one connection to it ?
[01:57] <shakma> hmmm.  i dunno
[01:57] <nekostar> and if so does each connection get thier own ip  ?
[01:57] <nekostar> i e
[01:57] <Draconicus> I have the gstreamer stuff installed on this PPC Ubuntu Breezy, but rhythmbox still can't play mp3s. What gives?
[01:57] <sdfsdf> anyone here familiar with macromedia fireworks
[01:57] <nekostar> how many compys are plugged into that modem shakma
[01:57] <slew> nickrud, thanks homie!
[01:57] <shakma> just one
[01:57] <nekostar> Draconicus,
[01:57] <nekostar> !restricted formats
[01:57] <ubotu> somebody said restricted formats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[01:57] <sdfsdf> anyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar with macromedia fireworksanyone here familiar 
[01:57] <sdfsdf> ?
[01:57] <nickrud> slew, yw
[01:57] <sdfsdf> ANSWER ME
[01:57] <sdfsdf> OR I KILL YOU
[01:57] <nekostar> sdfsdf, stfu
[01:57] <sdfsdf> u shut the fuck up
[01:57] <sdfsdf> bitch
[01:58] <nekostar> !op sdfsdf annoying ... even more than me ~_~
[01:58] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nekostar
[01:58] <nekostar> !ops sdfsdf annoying ... even more than me ~_~
[01:58] <ubotu> nekostar: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <nekostar> !staff sdfsdf annoying ... even more than me ~_~
[01:58] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nekostar
[01:58] <nekostar> bah
[01:58] <revilot> i finaly got ubuntu to recognize my wireless card (BCM 4318), the light lit up and it saw my network but wouldnt connect.  Anyone have a clue as to what I could try next?
[01:58] <Draconicus> nekostar: Do I need to quote myself? I already have the gstreamer stuff installed!
[01:58] <chopchop_> nekostar: tried, nothing changes
[01:59] <nekostar> Draconicus, dont know what that has to do with me
[01:59] <nekostar> follow the whole wiki
[01:59] <nekostar> o wait
[01:59] <nekostar> i know
[01:59] <nekostar> you need a mixer
[01:59] <shakma> i'm reading some stuff about setting up PPPoE.  am I on the right track?
[01:59] <nekostar> a good one
[01:59] <WinBloz> hello, does anyone here work with www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[01:59] <richiefrich> alsamixer
[01:59] <nekostar> something is muted Draconicus
[01:59] <nickrud> !ubuntuguide
[01:59] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a bad outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <nekostar> richiefrich, yeah thats a great one
[01:59] <richiefrich> or kmixer
[01:59] <jahshua> Draconicus: what gives is, you suck.
[01:59] <wastrel> ohhh baby
[01:59] <nekostar> shakma, o: dunno not deat with that sorry
[02:00] <Draconicus> nekostar: Nothing is muted. I know how to work with alsamixer. A ! in front of each mp3 and "unable to play file" does not mean that it's muted.
[02:00] <nekostar> look at your windows thing.
[02:00] <jahshua> key word
[02:00] <jahshua> "windows"
[02:00] <jahshua> ;)
[02:00] <richiefrich> Draconicus whats the permissions on the mp3's
[02:00] <Draconicus> richiefrich: User.
[02:00] <Draconicus> richiefrich: Err..
[02:00] <WinBloz> yeah that was going to be my point, have a number of concerns I wanted to inform them of, including several instructions that are suposedely for DAPPER yet are out of date
[02:00] <Draconicus> richiefrich: 667 user, I think.
[02:01] <richiefrich> Draconicus check please
[02:01] <nekostar> damn xchat
[02:01] <shakma> gonna try some stuff.  i may be back.  thanks for for trying to help, nekostar
[02:01] <Cntryboy> in synaptic package,settings respos. should I check all boxes that talks about Community Maintained (Universe)
[02:01] <richiefrich> Draconicus  and also.. u cant unmute everything
[02:01] <chopchop_> im fucking bored with this
[02:01] <flithm> hey everyone... I just updated my system and now when I run an app (glabels) I get an error "gl_view_hide_grid: assertion..." anyone know what's going on here... and is it possible to undo the last set of upgrades?
[02:01] <richiefrich> chopchop_ with?
[02:01] <apokryphos> chopchop_: language please.
[02:01] <richiefrich> chopchop_  ubuntu ?
[02:02] <chopchop_> im sorry but my font system is broken
[02:02] <Cntryboy> ?
[02:02] <Draconicus> richiefrich: It's an iMac sound card.
[02:02] <richiefrich> chopchop_  then gentoo.. u will like
[02:02] <nickrud> Cntryboy, a good source (easier than synaptic) is replacing /etc/apt/sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[02:02] <Draconicus> richiefrich: If things were muted, I don't think that mpg123 would work.
[02:02] <nekostar> Cntryboy,
[02:02] <nekostar> close synaptic
[02:02] <richiefrich> Draconicus do me an -->  ls  -la  on one of the mp3's
[02:02] <nekostar> open a terminal ::
[02:02] <richiefrich> whats it say
[02:02] <chopchop_> no, i want to keep trying with this
[02:02] <nekostar> applications >> accessories >> terminal
[02:02] <chrismurf> nekostar, FWIW, You're my hero.
[02:03] <Draconicus> richiefrich: I'm already a step ahead of you. drwxr-xr-x and user ownership.
[02:03] <Cntryboy> k
[02:03] <nekostar> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <nekostar> delete everything in there
[02:03] <nekostar> [ctrl+k deletes a line at a time] 
[02:03] <nekostar> then insert the sources i posted earlier
[02:03] <nekostar> chrismurf, eh?
[02:03] <kbrooks> Draconicus: full output
[02:03] <jonuk> just recently partitioned a big 208GB's of Unallocated space, mounted it to /storage, now when I reboot, it gives me this: "Buffer I/O error on device dm-5, logical block 6326XXX"
[02:03] <richiefrich> Draconicus  till give u an example --> IEC958    <-- if i unmute that I get no sound
[02:03] <nekostar> ok great lol
[02:03] <Cntryboy> how can I drag all txt top to bottom to delete it?
[02:04] <Draconicus> richiefrich: You have a much more complicated soundcard.
[02:04] <nekostar> Draconicus, breezy is not the same as dapper with sound for some reason
[02:04] <richiefrich> Draconicus thats an example... but any who... what player
[02:04] <ericz> dapper uses alsa by default..
[02:04] <Draconicus> kbrooks: Whoops. That was a directory. Hold on.
[02:04] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  what editor?
[02:04] <flithm> hey everyone... I just updated my system and now when I run an app (glabels) I get an error "gl_view_hide_grid: assertion..." O
[02:04] <nekostar> Cntryboy, no dragging
[02:04] <nickrud> Cntryboy, you can use gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" , that is easier to edit
[02:04] <jonuk> also, when i created the partition it gave me a "busy Device" warning and for some reason automatically took up 3,408MB on the new partition, then after I mounted it, it showed 13,000MB used up...but there's nothing on that partition
[02:04] <nekostar> wastrel, nano
[02:04] <flithm> oops sorry :)
[02:04] <nekostar> eh
[02:04] <nekostar> yeah nickrud is right just do that
[02:04] <Cntryboy> okay its deleted where is the save buttom
[02:04] <nekostar> no need to save
[02:05] <Cntryboy> just exit?
[02:05] <wastrel> heh nano
[02:05] <nekostar> could someone scroll up to where i did that link from paste
[02:05] <nekostar> Cntryboy, no wait
[02:05] <nekostar> !paste
[02:05] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[02:05] <Draconicus> kbrooks: -rw-r--r-- 1 elenore elenore 1247844 2006-06-15 19:05      Happy now? :P
[02:05] <nekostar> last time i did that right after i gave a link
[02:05] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15786
[02:05] <nekostar> there
[02:05] <kbrooks> Draconicus: *FULL*
[02:05] <nekostar> thats your new sources Cntryboy
[02:05] <jonuk> the new drive seems to be working fine, i just have a problem with the error at startup
[02:05] <Draconicus> kbrooks: You wan't the damned filename?!
 kbrooks: -rw-r--r-- 1 elenore elenore 1247844 2006-06-15 19:05      Happy now? :P       <----- thats an mp3 file?
[02:06] <nekostar> scroll down to the text box and copy paste from that [not the bit with the numbers] 
[02:06] <Draconicus> Why do you care about the filename? Fine. Hold on. I'm typing this out by hand because I'm on a different computer.
[02:06] <richiefrich> Draconicus well u dont have permissions to play it then
[02:06] <nekostar> heh
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> Draconius: Make sure the user is in the audio group
[02:06] <Draconicus> kbrooks: -rw-r--r-- 1 elenore elenore 1247844 2006-06-15 19:05 Lawrence Wlk - Accordian And Sax Polka.mp3
[02:06] <nekostar> thats prolly it actually
[02:06] <richiefrich> -rw-r--r--  <----- not enough
[02:06] <nekostar> Draconicus, lets talk about permissions :D
[02:06] <richiefrich> u need more
[02:06] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: OH! I forgot to do that! THANKS!
[02:07] <richiefrich> nekostar u needs an x in there
[02:07] <stephan__> how can i make /dev/dvd point to /dev/hdc
[02:07] <jonuk> just recently partitioned a big 208GB's of Unallocated space, mounted it to /storage, now when I reboot, it gives me this: "Buffer I/O error on device dm-5, logical block 6326XXX"
[02:07] <nekostar> Cntryboy, getting there ?
[02:07] <Cntryboy> yes
[02:07] <Draconicus> nekostar: I'm not a linux newbie. h3sp4wn actually recognized that and suggested something other than the obvious stuff. Try that next time.
[02:07] <nekostar> richiefrich, absolutely rite from here
[02:07] <Cntryboy> its pasted in there now
[02:07] <Cntryboy> so just exit?
[02:07] <richiefrich> nekostar  i know
[02:07] <nekostar> Draconicus, try redhat next time
[02:07] <nekostar> Cntryboy, yeah
[02:07] <Cntryboy> ok
[02:07] <richiefrich> nekostar   x = exucutable
[02:07] <nekostar> it asks if you wanna save or not when you change stuff
[02:07] <Draconicus> nekostar: Quiet, you, or I'll go back to Gentoo.
[02:07] <nekostar> richiefrich, i know ;)
[02:07] <stephan__> how can i make /dev/dvd point to /dev/hdc
[02:08] <nekostar> Draconicus, watever
[02:08] <Cntryboy> so how do I exit?
[02:08] <richiefrich> Draconicus change the permissions
[02:08] <Cntryboy> ctrl+x
[02:08] <nekostar> if you can handle gentoo you can handle this with no help
[02:08] <nekostar> Cntryboy, naw
[02:08] <Draconicus> richiefrich: It's not the persmissions. The person is not in the audio group.
[02:08] <nekostar> just click on the x on the top right if you have gedit open
[02:08] <Cntryboy> says ^X
[02:08] <nekostar> ctrl+x for nano
[02:08] <Cntryboy> not sure what that means
[02:08] <richiefrich> Draconicus  -rw-r--r--  no  it's the permissions
[02:08] <nekostar> oic
[02:08] <nekostar> nano
[02:08] <nekostar> :)(
[02:08] <nekostar> :))
[02:08] <nekostar> yes
[02:08] <nekostar> ctrl+X
[02:08] <jonuk> Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:08] <Cntryboy> k
[02:08] <richiefrich> Draconicus  -rw-r--r--  <---- that has no x
[02:08] <apokryphos> !enter
[02:08] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[02:08] <Draconicus> You don't execute an mp3!
[02:09] <richiefrich> Draconicus  but u do
[02:09] <stephan__> can someone help me how can i make /dev/dvd point to /dev/hdc
[02:09] <WinBloz> I have recently started using Linux
[02:09] <nekostar> Draconicus, what do you call it when you run a file ?
[02:09] <WinBloz> is there a linux app like M$ Frontpage?
[02:09] <Cntryboy> now says file name to write: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <nekostar> stephan__, yeah
[02:09] <Cntryboy> which letter do I pick now
[02:09] <nekostar> temp or perm ?
[02:09] <Draconicus> richiefrich: Here's a novel idea. See that 'y' and that 'o' key on your keyboard? TRY USING THEM.
[02:09] <stephan__> nekostar: thanks
[02:09] <LjL> nekostar: you don't run an mp3 :)
[02:09] <wastrel> jonuk:  you partitioned, did you put a filesystem on it?
[02:09] <LjL> nekostar: you play it...
[02:09] <nekostar> Cntryboy, pusy y for yes
[02:09] <stephan__> nekostar: perm
[02:09] <Cntryboy> I did that
[02:09] <Draconicus> nekostar: You don't run an mp3. You read it.
[02:09] <richiefrich> Draconicus u dont want help do u
[02:09] <nekostar> stephan__, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:09] <Cntryboy> but it took me too another window after that
[02:10] <jonuk> wastrel: ext3
[02:10] <nekostar> then enter
[02:10] <Draconicus> richiefrich: You aren't helping. I have my answer. Now you're just a distraction. Leave me alone.
[02:10] <Cntryboy> okay all done
[02:10] <Cntryboy> now what
[02:10] <Draconicus> !pm
[02:10] <ubotu> Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[02:10] <Draconicus> Hmm..'
[02:10] <Draconicus> I remember a different response.
[02:10] <stephan__> nekostar, k
[02:10] <wastrel> k i dunno
[02:10] <nekostar> Cntryboy, sudo apt-get update
[02:10] <nekostar> stephan__, hm
[02:10] <nekostar> u want dvd [02:11] <mcpowley> is there ANY WAY, I can change the shortcut shift+backspace to restart gnome. It's killing me...seriously.
[02:11] <nekostar> hdc1 ?
[02:11] <nekostar> hdc2 >?
[02:11] <Cntryboy> so is this updating the sites u had me paste in?
[02:11] <nekostar> Cntryboy, yes
[02:11] <nekostar> it updates the availiable packages for your compy
[02:11] <jonuk> also, i'm having trouble using sudo badblocks...I type "sudo badblocks /dev/hda"
[02:11] <nekostar> anyway try something like this line stephan__
[02:11] <jonuk> but nothing happens
[02:11] <Cntryboy> how long will this take on dialup?
[02:11] <cycom> hrm. Know any good themes for irssi with a white background?
[02:12] <richiefrich> hmm it's quiet in  here... now that i /ignore some asshole
[02:12] <nekostar>  /dev/hdc /dev/dvd auto defaults 0 2
[02:12] <lib8264q> lol
[02:12] <nekostar> gonna have to play with it a bit
[02:12] <cycom> nvmind.  I found it.
[02:13] <nekostar> ah found a link here actually stephan__
[02:13] <nekostar> it says create a symbolic link
[02:13] <Cntryboy> nekostar how long does this take to dl and how big is it?
[02:13] <Cntryboy> at 15 percent
[02:13] <nekostar> ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd
[02:13] <jonuk> wow, i'm surprised no one has any suggestions in here
[02:13] <jonuk> I guess i will try back later
[02:13] <nekostar> Cntryboy, eh
[02:13] <nickrud> mcpowley, xgl?
[02:13] <nekostar> ?
[02:14] <nekostar> the packages Cntryboy  ?
[02:14] <Cntryboy> its updating
[02:14] <nekostar> or is it updateing the system
[02:14] <Cntryboy> yes
[02:14] <Cntryboy> im on dialup just wondering how long
[02:14] <Cntryboy> it takes
[02:14] <mcpowley> nickrud: Yes, but the weird thing is, i don't even have xgl running, i have to enable it with thefuture, and I never do that because it never works.
[02:14] <mcpowley> woe is me
[02:14] <nekostar> did u do sudo apt-get update or sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[02:14] <nekostar> oic
[02:14] <nekostar> Cntryboy, its gonna take a little while :/
[02:14] <Cntryboy> and why am I updating the source.list is that so I can install certain packages?
[02:14] <Cntryboy> update
[02:14] <richiefrich> not as long as gentoo but it will take time
[02:15] <nekostar> Cntryboy, your compy cant get the packages without knowing where to get em
[02:15] <Subhuman_> jonuk, maybe u have no bad blocks
[02:15] <nekostar> that told your compy where almost any package you could possibly think of is
[02:15] <nickrud> mcp, only thing I found was https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/43672
[02:15] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Hmm.. I did forget to put this user in the audio group, but there seems to be a different problem. I can use mpg123 to play mp3s, but clearly rhythmbox goes through something else. Think you can help me pick it apart and find the missing element?
[02:15] <nekostar> stephan__, did u get that ??
[02:16] <Cntryboy> i know so is it like linking apt-get install to these pages now for vlc and other programs or what
[02:16] <nickrud> mcpowley, erm, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/47682 (the one with a hacky fix)
[02:16] <Subhuman_> jonuk, try "sudo e2fsk -c /dev/hda"
[02:16] <Cntryboy> I mean how is it making the comp. get them?
[02:16] <Cntryboy> or able to get them
[02:16] <stephan__> nekostar: yea i got it working ty
[02:16] <max_nooby_noob> I was wondering if any of you have Google Earth installed
[02:16] <Subhuman_> max_nooby_noob,
[02:16] <Subhuman_> yes
[02:16] <Subhuman_> itz good
[02:16] <Aaron_Mason> !backports
[02:16] <nekostar> stephan__, np
[02:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:16] <Stroganoff> some1 pls create a dapper package for permanently expanded gtk open/save dialogs! here is the patch:
[02:16] <Stroganoff> http://www.yeap.de/blog/2006/03/13/gtk-file-chooser-expanded-by-default/
[02:16] <nekostar> max_nooby_noob, yeah totally gimme a sec and ill walk ya through it :)
[02:17] <max_nooby_noob> I installed it, too, subhuman, but I can't find where it is.
[02:17] <max_nooby_noob> thanks nekostar
[02:17] <Subhuman_> Cntryboy, basically the "apt-get udpate" downloads a list of everything you can download
[02:17] <jonuk> subhuman: e2fsk command not found
[02:17] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob what cant u find ?
[02:17] <max_nooby_noob> it didn't create a shortcut to my menu
[02:17] <max_nooby_noob> I did a default install
[02:17] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob what package u inatsall ?
[02:17] <Subhuman_> ahh max_nooby_noob itz in ~/bin
[02:17] <Cntryboy> okay thx subhuman
[02:17] <max_nooby_noob> the one on the google site (for Linux)
[02:17] <Cntryboy> thats what I wanted to know :)
[02:17] <RemyLaptop> anyone know a good ftp server with a GUI ?
[02:18] <linoob> hello all, i want to know if my integrated soundcard Soundmax adi1980 is compatible (chipset via vt8235)
[02:18] <Cntryboy> so after this is done updating will sudo apt-get install vlc work now?
[02:18] <Subhuman_> max_nooby_noob,  Alt+F2 then type "Google-Earth"
[02:18] <crimsun_> linoob: afaik, yes
[02:18] <Subhuman_> Cntryboy, if you have universe/multiverse yes
[02:18] <max_nooby_noob> Details: The location or file could not be found.
[02:18] <Subhuman_> jonuk,  e2fsck sorry
[02:18] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob  dpkg-query -L <package> | grep bin
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> Draconicus: I use xine (for which libxine-extracodecs provides the codecs) you are probably using gstreamer so you (probably ?)need gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[02:18] <farshim> Hi, I have duplicates in my Application menu how can I get rid of them
[02:19] <max_nooby_noob> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[02:19] <wastrel> farshim:  applications > accessories > alacarte menu editor
[02:19] <apokryphos> farshim: /msg ubotu smeg
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> in kde, can I get wlan assistant to load on startup?
[02:19] <jonuk> subhuman:  gave an error...my filesystem is ext3...
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> not now
[02:19] <Subhuman_> /home/USERNAME/google-earth//googleearth  max_nooby_noob, thats where mine is.
[02:19] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob  dpkg-query -L <package>
[02:20] <Subhuman_> jonuk, ext3 is just ext3 with journalling
[02:20] <max_nooby_noob> ok, I'll look
[02:20] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Isn't that for dapper?
[02:20] <farshim> wastrel: actually the duplicate is in alacarte
[02:20] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob    where the <>  are omited
[02:20] <linoob> where can i find info about compatibility with sound cards?
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Draconius: Are you using breezy ?
[02:20] <richiefrich> linoob what soundcard ?
[02:20] <wastrel> farshim:  ok i dunno then :] 
[02:20] <max_nooby_noob> dpkg-query -L package?
[02:20] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Yeah.
[02:20] <linoob> ADI1980 SOUNDMAX integrated on Asus A7V8X-MX SE
[02:20] <richiefrich> linoob  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[02:20] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob yes...
[02:21] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Don't tell me to upgrade, please. This machine can't right now.
[02:21] <jonuk> subhuman: i know that but the error message that it gave was "The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[02:21] <jonuk> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[02:21] <jonuk> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[02:21] <jonuk> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[02:21] <jonuk>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[02:21] <jonuk> "
[02:21] <linoob> richiefrich thanx
[02:21] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob thats will like all the files in that package
[02:21] <richiefrich> linoob np
[02:21] <Draconicus> Ohh! I get it. Dapper was released officially!
[02:21] <max_nooby_noob> where package = ?
[02:21] <farshim> There must be a way to edit Appication Menu without using Alacarte
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> Draconius: gstreamer0.8-plugins  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse  gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:21] <Draconicus> Silly me. I'm now running the officially outdated version. :P
[02:21] <stephan__> anyone able to get azuerur to work with dapper
[02:21] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob what are u lookin for ?
[02:21] <Subhuman_> farshim, why wouldnt you use alacarte? makes it so easy
[02:21] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Been there. Done that. :P
[02:21] <jonuk> subhuman: sorry, i'm a newb...i just messed up
[02:21] <max_nooby_noob> God knows!
[02:22] <max_nooby_noob> Uhm, I'm looking to find where google earth is installed on my system.
[02:22] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob well that might help
[02:22] <GaiaX11> how do i start mysql. Which is the command?
[02:22] <farshim> Subhuman_: The thing is the duplicate is in alacarte
[02:22] <stephan__> anyone able to get azureus to work with dapper
[02:22] <nekostar> max_nooby_noob, ok u needed the googleearth right ?
[02:22] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob ok how'd u install it ?.
[02:22] <linoob> well its compatible but i cant make to work on xubuntu dapper drake final :(
[02:22] <nekostar> look in your home directory max_nooby_noob
[02:22] <farshim> Subhuman_: so maybe alaracte is looking up some file which has duplicates
[02:22] <Subhuman_> jonuk, u have a corrupt superblock, try googling the errors, although last time that happened to me  i reformatted cuz i didnt have anything  i wanted on the partito.n
[02:22] <richiefrich> nekostar is it in apt-get ?
[02:22] <linoob> and in the page of ubuntu say that is  nos supported
[02:22] <nekostar> richiefrich, no
[02:22] <linoob> a bit tricky... :S
[02:22] <nekostar> you have to manually install that
[02:22] <max_nooby_noob> it's not in my home directory but I know I installed it because it appeared but froze my system.
[02:23] <Subhuman_> farshim, if there are two copies your PATH then it might do, or just edit it out?
[02:23] <jonuk> subhuman:  this time i ran it as /dev/hda3 (the partition in question), and it says "/dev/hda3 is mounted.  WARNING: Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVER filesystem damage"
[02:23] <xolot1> im looking to set up my wireless card, but how do i determine the cards interface (eth0, etc)?
[02:23] <boricua_> i have 3 updates but it tells me they can't be authenticated  why is this?
[02:23] <richiefrich> nekostar  ahh he could just dpkg-query  it it was
[02:23] <Subhuman_> jonuk, dont do file system checks while it is mounted
[02:23] <max_nooby_noob> i might as well try again, eh?
[02:23] <Subhuman_> if it is the root partition, use a live CD
[02:23] <max_nooby_noob> installing it, that is
[02:23] <Subhuman_> max_nooby_noob, yes.
[02:23] <richiefrich> nekostar whats the executable on googleearth ?
[02:23] <farshim> Why is delete option is disabled in alacarte?
[02:23] <linoob> richiefrich on that page said that its compatible
[02:23] <jonuk> subhuman:  the partition is blank, i just now created it...so formatting is no problem; can i do that with GParted?
[02:24] <max_nooby_noob> once I get the .bin file what command do I run again?
[02:24] <nekostar> richiefrich, its all binanary
[02:24] <linoob> but in the page of ubuntu said isnt
[02:24] <linoob> :S
[02:24] <Subhuman_> jonuk, sure.
[02:24] <xolot1> may i have some wireless help? i think its easy
[02:24] <nekostar> /home/nekostar/.googleearth
[02:24] <richiefrich> nekostar ok what do u type to start it ?
[02:24] <nekostar> and
[02:24] <nekostar> /home/nekostar/google-earth
[02:24] <davemicc> GaiaX11: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[02:24] <nekostar> richiefrich, back up here
[02:24] <nekostar> are you trying to install or uninstall it >?
[02:24] <nekostar> it adds something to the menu for instance
[02:24] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob  sudo find / -name "googleearth"
[02:25] <nooby_god> is there a chan for ubuntu documentation?
[02:25] <Draconicus> max_nooby_noob: I'm not sure, but I think you just do sh ./googleearth.bin or whatever in the proper directory.
[02:25] <richiefrich> nekostar i dont use it do i dont kow what u type in a term to run it
[02:25] <crimsun_> nooby_god: #ubuntu-doc
[02:25] <psyoptik> I have a question about how to acquire or link to the kernel source for Dapper
[02:25] <Draconicus> I really want to stab the noobs, now. It hurts. It hurts to read their horrible attempts at English and logic...
[02:25] <crimsun_> psyoptik: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[02:25] <Subhuman_> psyoptik, how do you mean?
[02:25] <psyoptik> thanks crimsun'
[02:26] <max_nooby_noob> sudo find /-name 'googleearth'
[02:26] <max_nooby_noob> Password:
[02:26] <max_nooby_noob> find: /-name: No such file or directory
[02:26] <max_nooby_noob> find: googleearth: No such file or directory
[02:26] <Cntryboy> whats the difference in dapper and breezy?
[02:26] <nekostar> richiefrich, first one can just go to where the source directory of it is and type ./googleearth
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> Draconicus: Are you running esd (I think it is a piece of junk so always disable it)
[02:26] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob  sudo find / -name "googleearth"  <-- u missed a space
[02:26] <max_nooby_noob> i downloaded the file
[02:26] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: I don't believe so. I probably need to because of this iMac sound card, though.
[02:26] <Subhuman_> psyoptik, itll be in /usr/src/
[02:26] <nekostar> but if you installed correctly look at applications >> internet >> googleearth
[02:26] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob  theres a spce in between  / -name
[02:26] <max_nooby_noob> k
[02:27] <nekostar> /home/nekostar/google-earth//googleearth %f
[02:27] <nekostar> thats the path for it
[02:27] <Subhuman_> max_nooby_noob, is it not in the menu#?
[02:27] <xolot1> how do i determine a card's interface, ie eth0?
[02:27] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: I'm using ESD at the moment. Let's see what happens when I kill it.
[02:27] <Mikejn1> Is the Ubuntu 64 bit version (Dapper Drake)  compatible with the broadcom b/g wireless as well as  conexant audio?
[02:27] <Subhuman_> max_nooby_noob, if itz not reinstall
[02:27] <Subhuman_> xolot1, run "ifconfig"
[02:27] <xolot1> thank you
[02:27] <boricua_> xolot1: ifconfig
[02:27] <max_nooby_noob> /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[02:27] <max_nooby_noob> /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth
[02:27] <richiefrich> nekostar i was just searching for the executable like i siad i dont use it
[02:27] <nekostar> max_nooby_noob, wth
[02:28] <max_nooby_noob> there!
[02:28] <max_nooby_noob> I found it
[02:28] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob then -->  /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[02:28] <nekostar> you installed as a systemwide package eh ~_~
[02:28] <Cntryboy> whats the differences in dapper and breezy
[02:28] <Cntryboy> is breezy the easiest of all ubuntu?
[02:28] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Durr.. It's a daemon. How do I stop it?
[02:28] <Imexius> I'm having trouble getting internet on my shitty box, on slackware all i have to do is go /sbin/modprob 3c509, but that doent seem to be helping ubuntu, is there a netconfig command for ubuntu?
[02:28] <Kyral> Dapper is the new release
[02:28] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob then  --> /usr/local/bin/googleearth   <-----type that
[02:28] <Subhuman_> Cntryboy, dapper is newer, itz easier than breezy too.
[02:28] <richiefrich> nekostar see the find cmd is never wrong
[02:28] <Kyral> Breezy is the "most recent" old one :P
[02:28] <Draconicus> Imexius: ifup eth0
[02:28] <boricua_> !tell Imexius  iwconfig
[02:28] <max_nooby_noob> type it where in terminal?
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> Draconicus: Somewhere in preferences sound server or something
[02:28] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob yes
[02:29] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[02:29] <gallag> for a web app, how do I install java for dapper?
[02:29] <Vandrei_Jaques> Cntryboy, Dapper is new, and the packeges is update
[02:29] <Draconicus> Imexius: Do a 'ifdown eth0' before doing it.
[02:29] <max_nooby_noob> permission denied
[02:29] <boricua_> !iwconfig
[02:29] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: I'm running XFCE.
[02:29] <max_nooby_noob> sudo?
[02:29] <ubotu> boricua_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:29] <piratepenguin> draconius: 'killall esd', but it'll just start itself up when needed afaik
[02:29] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob no u shoudnt have to
[02:29] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob try without 1st
[02:30] <cafuego> Mikejn1: The audio should be fine; I've heard the odd report of the 4318 not working on amd64. (system hardlock)
[02:30] <Cntryboy> oh what command do I type to see what version of ubuntu I have
[02:30] <max_nooby_noob> no such directory
[02:30] <Kyral> cat /etc/issue
[02:30] <max_nooby_noob> I see all the contents of the folder
[02:30] <cafuego> Mikejn1: Though if you can i386 code, it'd probably be fine.
[02:30] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob  if u need sudo then use sudo
[02:30] <max_nooby_noob> How do I run it?
[02:30] <Draconicus> piratepenguin: It's not that kind of process. You can't stop a daemon with killall, usually.
[02:30] <Imexius> draconicus: ifdown eth0 just throws not configured
[02:30] <max_nooby_noob> initiate it
[02:30] <max_nooby_noob> or whatever
[02:30] <richiefrich> sudo /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[02:30] <boricua> software update tells me packages ready to install cant be authenticated,  why is that?
[02:31] <Draconicus> Imexius: Then just do ifup eth0
[02:31] <Kyral> because....*bites back*
[02:31] <Mikejn1> cafuego, so then the wireless might not work then?
[02:31] <Imexius> unknown interface, its a really old etherlink III card
[02:31] <max_nooby_noob> ok, it initiated
[02:31] <Kyral> I was gonna say something BOFHish
[02:31] <xolot1> im trying to setup wireless w/ wpa_supplicant, and im getting the error:
[02:31] <xolot1> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[02:31] <xolot1> Could not set interface 'eth1' UP
[02:31] <Cntryboy> whats the command to see what version of ubuntu I have ect breezy/dapper
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> Draconius: Try running xfce4-mixer and changing the output from esd to alsa (I don't know much about gnome or xfce - mainly kde and system level stuff)
[02:31] <max_nooby_noob> thank heavens
[02:31] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob it started ?
[02:31] <max_nooby_noob> yes
[02:31] <boricua> Imexius: try  man iwconfig
[02:31] <Kyral> Cntryboy: I told you
[02:31] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob good
[02:32] <max_nooby_noob> how do I put a shortcut in my menu?
[02:32] <Imexius> boricua: thats wireless...
[02:32] <cafuego> Mikejn1: Possibly, yes. Mind you, broadcom is still under very ehavy development, so it _will_ work at some stage.
[02:32] <TigerWolf> boricua: Im having the same problem - anyone know?
[02:32] <Kyral> you think I randomly said "cat /etc/issue" for fun?
[02:32] <Cntryboy> sorry I didn't see
[02:32] <Imexius> isnt there a dpkg-reconfigure command?
[02:32] <wastrel> yes
[02:32] <Kyral> Imexius: bingo
[02:32] <RemyLaptop> hm, does anyone know a good GUI based ftp server for ubuntu ?
[02:32] <Imexius> i just need to set it up so i can do a /sbin/modprobe 3c509
[02:32] <RemyLaptop> atm I'm running the ftp server on windows, but I'd prefer to do it the other way round :P
[02:32] <TigerWolf> RemyLaptop: iglooftp-pro
[02:32] <Imexius> Kyral: but what dpkg-reconfigure?
[02:33] <richiefrich> RemyLaptop u want a server ?
[02:33] <Cntryboy> sorry dude I'm stoned and you didn't say my name so I wasn't sure you was speaking to someone else
[02:33] <void^> gui and server are incompatible terms
[02:33] <richiefrich> RemyLaptop or a frontend ?
[02:33] <Kyral> Imexius: dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[02:33] <TigerWolf> RemyLaptop: oops not server
[02:33] <Imexius> Kyral: lol...
[02:33] <RemyLaptop> richiefrich what's the difference ?
[02:33] <Mikejn1> ok.. Is there a noticible differenence running Ubuntu on a 64 bit processor as apposed to 32 bit?
[02:33] <RemyLaptop> I just want to share files that are too large for samba...
[02:33] <richiefrich> RemoteViewer do u want to host a server ?
[02:33] <RemyLaptop> and I'm too noob to use text based ftp servers such as vsftpd
[02:33] <RemyLaptop> :P
[02:33] <max_nooby_noob> How can I load it without the sudo path command?
[02:33] <richiefrich> RemoteViewer so ppl or yourself can upload to it
[02:33] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Tab completion is your friend. :P     Anyway, it looks like xfce4-mixer is just a graphical frontend to whatever is currently controlling /dev/mixer, so that's no good. Surely there must be a way to change it from console.
[02:33] <Cntryboy> mine says Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[02:33] <Cntryboy> is that breezy or dapper
[02:34] <Imexius> Kyral: i need to make it use dhcp
[02:34] <Kyral> Dapper
[02:34] <TigerWolf> RemyLaptop: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/pureftpweb.htm
[02:34] <Kyral> Imexius: you network? edit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:34] <Cntryboy> what would breezy say?
[02:34] <richiefrich> RemoteViewer to u want a server ?
[02:34] <Draconicus> h3sp4wn: Don't you think that what rhythmbox is trying to use would matter more, anyway?
[02:34] <Kyral> Imexius you are a Slackware vet! C'mon!
[02:34] <Cntryboy> I'm a dapper man gdamit
[02:34] <max_nooby_noob> wow, it's really slow
[02:34] <richiefrich> RemoteViewer there is none that are GUI.. not the server
[02:34] <RemyLaptop> thanks TigerWolf
[02:34] <Imexius> Kyral: bha!
[02:34] <max_nooby_noob> choppy
[02:34] <Cntryboy> dapper dan man
[02:34] <Cntryboy> rather lol
[02:35] <Draconicus> I'm a Gentoo vet. It scares me to see stupid people using a Linux distro, but I guess that's what Ubuntu is compatible with. ._.
[02:35] <Cntryboy> so what would breezys issue say lol
[02:35] <Imexius> Kyral: sudo lspci | grep -i eth doesnt even return anything, this card is ancient
[02:35] <wastrel> breezy
[02:35] <Kyral> Imexius: then you have OTHER problems
[02:35] <max_nooby_noob> can someone tell me how to make a shortcut in the menu to launch the program without command line?
[02:35] <Imexius> Draconicus: thats what you call an elitist attitude :P
[02:35] <Kyral> max_nooby_noob: its called Google
[02:35] <Kyral> use it
[02:35] <richiefrich> max_nooby_noob make a script..
[02:35] <Kyral> or think for yourself
[02:36] <Cntryboy> draconicus is that directed at me?
[02:36] <Draconicus> Imexius: I'm sorry. I just rather dislike the horrifying abuse of the English language.
[02:36] <Draconicus> Cntryboy: Hardly.
[02:36] <Cntryboy> I've only had linux for 28 hours
[02:36] <Kyral> No....BOFH BAD!!
[02:36] <Cntryboy> first time users
[02:36] <Imexius> Draconicus: np
[02:36] <wastrel> heh
[02:36] <Cntryboy> ok
[02:36] <max_nooby_noob> Kyral: has forgotten what it's like to be a noob
[02:36] <Kyral> Cntryboy: and we don't want you to rely on us. We won't tell you strieght out, rather give you hints
[02:36] <calisee> I am installing ipw2200 firmware, I don't have /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware folder, can I just make it or do I need to put my firmware files elsewhere?
[02:36] <jahshua> hold hold hold on
[02:37] <jahshua> Draconicus
[02:37] <Kyral> max_nooby_noob: I just get annoyed when some people don't seem to think
[02:37] <Draconicus> jahshua: Don't.
[02:37] <jahshua> you are a Gentoo veteran but you cant play an .mp3 file in Ubuntu?
[02:37] <richiefrich> lol
[02:37] <jbirdAngel> how do i put a file on a computer's windows shared file folder thats on lan wiht this one
[02:37] <wastrel> gentoo isn't all ninja skillz
[02:37] <jahshua> and you made a comment about stupid people?
[02:37] <jahshua> hmmmmmmmmm
[02:37] <max_nooby_noob> "seem" is the operative term. Streamlining is sometimes what it is.
[02:37] <wastrel> it's very well documented
[02:37] <Draconicus> jahshua: I can. My great grandmother can't. I'm trying to make rhythmbox work. I'd sooner use XMMS.
[02:37] <Cntryboy> well kyral I'd do researching for myself , but with dialup at 2.1KB takes very long to load pages. And since I don't know the terms even its harder to look up if you are drawing a blank. lol
[02:38] <richiefrich> jahshua lol ..  good one
[02:38] <wastrel> i ran gentoo for a good long while and still need help with plenty of stuff
[02:38] <Kyral> Cntryboy: okay, 56k, thou are forgiven
[02:38] <Cntryboy> and I have been doing research or trying to search but I can't seem to find the right link and waiting 15 min to load and find out it doesn't make sense or not even what im looking for lol
[02:38] <calisee> I am installing ipw2200 firmware, I don't have /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware folder, can I just make it or do I need to put my firmware files elsewhere?
[02:38] <Cntryboy> wish I got 56K, 2.1K is what I get out here in the country lol
[02:39] <max_nooby_noob> Wouldn't it make sense, though, to have the program/package create these shortcuts by default, as in windows?
[02:39] <Kyral> max_nooby_noob: its called Alacarte
[02:39] <Kyral> install and enjoy
[02:39] <wastrel> alacarte seems to be default install with dapper
[02:39] <jahshua> Draconicus i suggest getting to the level of playing .mp3 files successfully before hurling around comments about stupid computer users.  :)
[02:39] <Kyral> and if you try to say Linux should be Windows, I will smacketh thee
[02:39] <max_nooby_noob> yes, it's installed
[02:40] <Draconicus> jahshua: mpg123 works fine. It's this lousy jukebox program that's being a bitch.
[02:40] <Cntryboy> on that pastebin source.list how many site listings were there.. Im on like get 18
[02:40] <max_nooby_noob> no, I'm not saying Linux should be Windows, but it seems to make sense, Windows or not, that such things should be simplified.
[02:40] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  linux has a diy tradition as well as a lack of a coherent standard for desktop configuration, it would be hard for 3rd party software to pop an icon on the desktop when there's no guarantee that a desktop will even exist
[02:40] <Cntryboy> slow updating lol
[02:41] <Kyral> max_nooby_noob: the commandline is simple :P
[02:41] <Tommy2k4> j #kubuntu
[02:41] <max_nooby_noob> ok wastrel, that makes more sense --and is less apologetic.
[02:41] <Draconicus> jahshua: Also, I'll have you know that I'm fighting with a broken Ubuntu installation on a G3 iMac. This isn't your typical situation. I have more than a handful of computers running Ubuntu smoothly, and I'm responsible for putting my school on Linux.
[02:41] <wastrel> that and many linux users wouldn't want sw to automatically put stuff on their desktop
[02:41] <Kyral> and there is a difference between "simple" and "insecure" (before you ask why you shouldn't login as root)
[02:41] <jonuk> does anyone have any idea what this Warning means when making or deleting a partition in GParted: "At least one operation was applied to a busy device.
[02:41] <jonuk> A busy device is a device with at least one mounted partition.
[02:41] <jonuk> Because making changes to a busy device may confuse the kernel, you are advised to reboot your computer."
[02:41] <jahshua> Draconicus sure.
[02:42] <max_nooby_noob> in the Command field in Alacarte should it be sudo path?
[02:42] <Kyral> you should be able to run Google Earth without sudo
[02:42] <jrib> I get this error running d4x and gaim, it seems to be sound related: mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding; Creating link /home/jasonr/.kde/socket-luso.; can't create mcop directory   (I have replaced newlines with semicolons).  Any solutions?
[02:43] <max_nooby_noob> what is the file that actually runs googleearth, -bin?
[02:43] <n8qxb> quit
[02:44] <h3sp4wn> max_nooby_noob: If you installed google earth with sudo you need to do sudo rm -rf ~./.googleearth before you can run it as a user
[02:44] <jbirdAngel> hello, i open shared folder and i downloaded samba and i set up a folder as fara s i know but how do i find it on my windows machine or find my windows mcahines folder on it?
[02:44] <jbirdAngel> google earth is on linux now ?
[02:44] <gallag> help -- while installing jave, I get "sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented" from apt -- how do I fix it?
[02:45] <mister_roboto> gallag: i had that same problem. there is somethiing you need to do with debconf to make it present a dialog so you can respond to the license when installing.   hmmm... what was that?
[02:46] <knome> jbirdAngel : run ifconfig to get the linux IP address ( eg 192.168.1.2 ) then in windows go to start->run and type (eg) [start \\192.168.1.2] .  The brackets delimiting the box, not being typed.
[02:46] <maikol> how do you load a driver onto a floppy
[02:46] <max_nooby_noob> i'm able to run it with sudo PATH/PATH
[02:46] <jbirdAngel> knome: okay thanks
[02:47] <max_nooby_noob> which file should I point Alacarte to?
[02:47] <Imexius> Kyral: i think i might have got it
[02:47] <gallag> mister_roboto: phooey
[02:47] <Tommy2k4> whats the command to mount my floppy drive i need it quite urgently
[02:47] <knome> sudo mount /dev/fd0 ./folder
[02:47] <mister_roboto> gallag: i'm serious, that's what it is... googling now
[02:47] <mister_roboto> gallag: debconf java ubuntu
[02:47] <knome> assuming you only have one floppy./
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> says to specify fs type
[02:48] <jbirdAngel> knome: windows said it cang find start
[02:48] <gallag> mister_roboto: thanks!
[02:48] <piratepenguin> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 ./folder
[02:48] <knome> jbird
[02:48] <TigerWolf> Whats with this restart after the upgrades? I was told linux didnt need a restart...
[02:48] <max_nooby_noob> I created the shortcut but it's not launching the app. I suspect that the file I'm pointing to is incorrect
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> it seems like its read only?
[02:49] <jighead> TigerWolf, when the kernel is upgraded, you need to restart to load the new kernel
[02:49] <TigerWolf> ok np
[02:49] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/fd0 ./folder
[02:49] <Draconicus> jahshua: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/xmms1.png :)
[02:49] <Tommy2k4> ty
[02:49] <mister_roboto> gallag: dpkg-reconfigure debconf and set it to dialog
[02:49] <knome> jbirdangel: click the start _button_, then click run.  Then inthe dialog type [ start \\192.168.1.1 ]  or whatever the ifconfig command on linux gave you.
[02:49] <jbirdAngel> knome: i did it woithout typing the start, it wants to connect and is looking for a username and password, my username and password for this isnt working
[02:49] <jbirdAngel> knome: typing start in the dialog doesnt work
[02:49] <gallag> mister_roboto: okay
[02:50] <Imexius> auto eth0
[02:50] <Imexius> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:50] <Imexius> thats what i had to add to get it work this time
[02:50] <jbirdAngel> knome: when i just did \\192.... then it pulled up a username/pw box that i dont know the username/pw to?
[02:50] <ubuntu_n00b> hello, can someone tell me, in terms of quality, not speed, to wipe clean my HD before sending it back to the reseller? Is there a command that works best or is there a tool?
[02:50] <max_nooby_noob> should I select "Run in Terminal"?
[02:50] <kbrooks> ubuntu_n00b: missing word? ;)
[02:51] <chopchop_> may be you guys wont care but i got the fucking fonts back to normal. Love Ubuntu
[02:51] <knome> jbirdangel: yarg.  sorry. misread that.  What version of windows?  the start thing is for XP
[02:51] <Tommy2k4> hmm its still saying access denied to delete this file off the floppy
[02:51] <ubuntu_n00b> kbrooks?
[02:51] <sparkleytone> chopchop_: ubuntu aims to be grandma's distro...would you kiss grandma with that mouth?
[02:51] <kbrooks> ubuntu_n00b: "how".
[02:51] <mister_roboto> ubuntu_n00b: check out the "wipe" package
[02:51] <ubuntu_n00b> oh, lol
[02:52] <kbrooks> chopchop_: watch your language
[02:52] <jbirdAngel> knome: it is xp, but when i did start \\ip.address.here.  it said it couldtn find start, so i tried it as \\ip.address and it pulled up a username/pw thing i typed in my username and pw for linux and it pulled up my computername\username and i type in password but it doesnt work
[02:52] <sparkleytone> ? language
[02:52] <Tommy2k4> try // not \\#
[02:52] <chopchop_> ok guys
[02:52] <chopchop_> we re cool
[02:52] <Tommy2k4> why wont the mounted floppy drive let me delete a file
[02:53] <ubuntu_n00b> mister_roboto, where do i find the "wipe" package?
[02:53] <ubuntu_n00b> <-- n00b
[02:53] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: does it give an error?
[02:53] <wastrel> wipe is in universe
[02:53] <ubuntu_n00b> in the ADD/Remove?
[02:53] <mister_roboto> ubuntu_n00b: it's in the repositories. you can apt-get install it
[02:53] <Tommy2k4> access denied
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> i used sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[02:54] <Draconicus> Looks like I shut somebody up. ;)
[02:54] <knome> jbirdangel: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server I'm looking here for the answer, perhaps you will see it first?
[02:54] <jbirdAngel> Tommy2k4: didnt work
[02:54] <dou213_> hey guys, how can i change my logon screen? it's xubuntu now... i want gnome back...
[02:54] <jbirdAngel> knome: okay thanks
[02:54] <Draconicus> knome: What are you doing? Trying to mount a Windows filesystem on Linux through Samba?
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> any idea how i can fix it
[02:54] <jonuk> Question:  When you create a new ext3 filesystem with Unallocated Space, does it automatically use up about 3,406MB of space once it is finished?
[02:54] <Imexius> just a question since i manually edited my /etc/network/interfaces does that mean that i never had to use /sbin/modprobe 3c509 as i did with slackware?
[02:55] <Emilio_LnX> i aew galerinha
[02:55] <Emilio_LnX> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[02:55] <knome> Draconicus: jbirdangel is sharing through samba.
[02:55] <Draconicus> dou213: If you're in XFCE, in the menus, go to Settings and reconfigure your Login Screen.
[02:55] <gallag> mister_roboto: hey -- would "kde" (as opposed to "dialog" work too -- ( for the future)
[02:55] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: yea, looking for something..
[02:55] <Draconicus> knome: Both ways, or just reading Linux through Windows? If it's the latter, I can help.
[02:55] <mister_roboto> gallag: to be honest, i'm not sure.
[02:55] <gallag> mister_roboto: okay -- I'll try it on another computer
[02:55] <gallag> mister_roboto: thanks a bunch!\
[02:55] <Mitja> Anyone had any issues making iso cds with k3b?
[02:55] <Emilio_LnX> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[02:55] <gallag> mister_roboto: I think I will put that hint on the wiki
[02:55] <ubuntu_n00b> mister_roboto, how do i get "wipe" package? i gforgot how to use terminal, been 2 years =/
[02:56] <mister_roboto> gallag: no problem :)
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> i knew i shouldnt of left my exam research till the last minute
[02:56] <luis_> anyone know a nice text-to-speech app?
[02:56] <richiefrich> Mitja why not use the cmd line ?
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> or did it on windows just for ease of use
[02:56] <luis_> Emilio_LnX, tem eu :D
[02:56] <dv_> hm
[02:56] <Mitja> richiefrich, is it more reliable?
[02:56] <Imexius> does anyone even understand what im talking about?
[02:56] <byron> I am trying to get my second harddrive to work on my computer and I already changed the fstab, but everything on it is read only
[02:56] <jbirdAngel> knome:  should i be doing the sudo smbpasswd thing
[02:56] <Emilio_LnX> luis_  ser da onde?
[02:56] <mister_roboto> ubuntu_n00b: try using "adept" if you're in kde, or "synaptic" in gnome for your package mgmt.  it's an easy to use gui for noobs :)
[02:56] <byron> how would I change that
[02:56] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,mode=777 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[02:56] <luis_> Emilio_LnX, curitiba
[02:56] <dv_> is there any way to setup zero install on ubuntu?
[02:56] <richiefrich> Mitja  http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3
[02:56] <mister_roboto> ubuntu_n00b: enable the universe repository
[02:56] <xplode_me> hey! :)
[02:57] <richiefrich> Mitja yes very much so
[02:57] <jonuk> man, come on now
[02:57] <byron> HEY!
[02:57] <knome> Draconicus: jbirdangel was having the difficulty, the wiki I pointed them at may solve their delimma, as the first section in concerns the creation of samba users.  perhaps, perhaps not.  but any help should be directed at them, as I just `sudo mount -t smbfs //server/share ./folder' for my part.
[02:57] <Emilio_LnX> luis_: ah sim, legal, eu tbm sou do PR
[02:57] <Emilio_LnX> Maring
[02:57] <ubuntu_n00b> how do i enable universe repository?
[02:57] <xplode_me> anyone has the latest bonfire version running on up2date dapper?
[02:57] <Tommy2k4> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[02:57] <xplode_me> Requested 'gnome-vfs-2.0 >= 2.14.2' but version of gnome-vfs is 2.14.1
[02:57] <xplode_me> :(
[02:57] <mister_roboto> ubuntu_n00b: open the tool and look
[02:57] <jrib> ubotu: tell ubuntu_n00b about universe
[02:57] <richiefrich> Mitja my site... and also look here   http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20   <-- to make it easier to use
[02:58] <daverrr> hello all
[02:58] <jbirdAngel> knome: okay thank you for trying to help
[02:58] <richiefrich> Mitja  or u coould install --> app-cdr/bashburn
[02:58] <Draconicus> knome: I have a simple SAMBA guide I can upload for you. :)
[02:58] <richiefrich> Mitja   http://bashburn.sourceforge.net   <-- theres pics
[02:58] <daverrr> just running this live unbuntu cd for first time.
[02:58] <daverrr> very interesting
[02:58] <jbirdAngel> Draconicus: im the one knome was trying to help, im trying to figure out how to share over lan linux to windows
[02:59] <Mitja> richiefrich, I'm quite happy with the command line, if it's of the same or better performance
[02:59] <chrisjw> how do I set python files to run automatically using the python interpreter on ubuntu linux
[02:59] <richiefrich> Mitja better and fastyer
[02:59] <richiefrich> Mitja some like GUI i dont :)
[02:59] <jonuk> Question:  When you create a new ext3 filesystem with Unallocated Space, does it automatically use up about 3,406MB of space once it is finished?
[02:59] <herbheart> chrisjw add #! /usr/bin/python as the 1st line of the file
[03:00] <Tommy2k4> piratepenguin: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[03:00] <Mitja> richiefrich, I found out the hard way that GUI sometimes just ignores my wishes
[03:00] <richiefrich> Mitja it does at that... :)
[03:00] <herbheart> Anyone else getting lots of updates today?
[03:00] <herbheart> this is freaky
[03:00] <wastrel> chrisjw:  they also need to be in your path, and have executable permissions
[03:00] <knome> jbirdangel: looking at `man smbpasswd' it does appear to be what you need to create samba user accounts for you purposes.  have you tried \\ipaddress\sharename
[03:00] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: try: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,mode=0777 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[03:00] <daverrr> everyone here using unbuntu ?
[03:00] <daverrr> oops
[03:00] <daverrr> ubuntu
[03:01] <piratepenguin> most of us, prob not all
[03:01] <byron> hell ya
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> exactly the same
[03:01] <Draconicus> jbirdAngel: I'll have your info in a second. :)
[03:01] <mister_roboto> herbheart: what is freaky about getting updates?
[03:01] <daverrr> hmmm
[03:01] <herbheart> Hey dwight, one more Jamaican in the house
[03:01] <jbirdAngel> draconicknomei havnt tried that, but ill play with it later, for now ill just email me the file and not worry about it, thank you for your help
[03:01] <daverrr> interesting i/f
[03:01] <byron> which linux is the most stable?
[03:01] <DShepherd> herbheart: :-)
[03:01] <byron> distro*
[03:01] <herbheart> byron, all of them
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> dmesg | tail says 4296149.233000]  FAT: Unrecognized mount option "mode=0777" or missing value
[03:01] <dwight> herbheart: :-)
[03:01] <daverrr> I have many distro's
[03:02] <jbirdAngel> Draconicus: okay if its a webpage then ill bookmark it but i dont feel like playing with this right now, thank you for your help though :)
[03:02] <herbheart> but seriously, is anyone being asked to download ~70MB of updates today??
[03:02] <richiefrich> DShepherd whats up man
[03:02] <daverrr> most easy to use - novell suse linux
[03:02] <herbheart> this is worrying me
[03:02] <NoUse> herbheart everyone gets the same updates
[03:02] <Draconicus> jbirdAngel: Dude. My guide is a simple step by step. No playing required. :P
[03:02] <DShepherd> richiefrich: nothing much. you?
[03:02] <NoUse> herbheart why is it worrying you?
[03:02] <daverrr> and of course the live cd's
[03:02] <xplode_me> anyone has the latest bonfire version running on up2date dapper?
[03:02] <xplode_me> Requested 'gnome-vfs-2.0 >= 2.14.2' but version of gnome-vfs is 2.14.1
[03:02] <knome> jbirdangel: sorry I could not be of more assistance.  I learned this stuff the searching through man hand configuring it way, and didn't get too much assistance from others, leaving me with a lacking ability to share what knowledge I have.  Good luck in the future.
[03:02] <mister_roboto> byron: i don't know but i do know that opensuse 10 works perfectly out of the box, even with laptop stuff like wireless and power controls that gave me probelms in ubuntu
[03:02] <byron> if I configure ubuntu for server what will happen I am too lazy to try
[03:02] <jbirdAngel> Draconicus: sounds like it will be sueful
[03:03] <richiefrich>  /MSG  DShepherd hey i moved the channel.. your more then welcome to come by...  irc.oftc.net  #penguinslair
[03:03] <knome> jbirdangel: get his guide, it probably rocks.
[03:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> i type sudo ifup eth0   and i it tells me "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"... what does this mean
[03:03] <chrisjw> herbheart, I didn't have that in the top of my file but I had execute permission still, it's not opening the file still
[03:03] <byron> opensuse wont wokr on my powerbook 1400cs
[03:03] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: ok, I dont really know wrong there, but try mounting it without 'mode=' (the way you had it mounted b4) and then run 'sudo nautilus' (the nautilus window will be running as root so be careful!)
[03:03] <byron> bullshit
[03:03] <herbheart> NoUse for something that should be stable, and needed extra time to polish,  it feels like I'm reinstalling Gnome
[03:03] <byron> nothing works on it
[03:03] <knight488> how can I put echo "enabled : 1" > /proc/acpi/acer/wireless into a runable file, for turning on my wifi card?
[03:03] <jbirdAngel> knome: its okay, and thank you , and i will do that, thanks
[03:03] <byron> not even netbsd
[03:03] <daverrr> mandriva works well as well
[03:03] <byron> and that works on calculators and stuff
[03:03] <daverrr> did you use the proper version  for powerbook
[03:03] <wastrel> !language
[03:03] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: then you shouldn't get any access denied errors
[03:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:03] <NoUse> herbheart would you rather they didnt patch security problems and fix bugs?
[03:04] <byron> I cant find anythign that has a proper version for powerbook
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> nautilus: command not found
[03:04] <byron> well I want one iwth floppy so I dont have to buy a cdrom drive
[03:04] <titan_> YES!! I did it... I got back in to ubuntu IRC... I am now officially on Dapper 64bit version... oh joy, got a lot to learn.
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> i guess i should apt-get it
[03:04] <daverrr> there are various versions that are designed for that.
[03:04] <daverrr> have you tried live cd's
[03:04] <byron> and net bsd doesnt suport becasue it doesnt have firmware
[03:04] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: don't you use gnome?
[03:04] <knome> wtg titan.
[03:04] <herbheart> NoUse :). No I like patches, I would just like to see the announcement saying what was fixed
[03:04] <byron> the only one that works is mk linux or soemthing
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> kde
[03:04] <byron> and something else
[03:04] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: ok, then 'sudo knoqueror'
[03:04] <byron> but both take cdrom drives
[03:04] <Deformative> Dose anyone use e17?
[03:04] <herbheart> NoUse, and I can't find any such announcement.
[03:04] <byron> it only has 12 mb of ram
[03:05] <shadeofgrey> hey titan -- you should ditch the 64bit verrsion and stick with 32vit version
[03:05] <NoUse> herbheart check the changlogs
[03:05] <byron> and 112 ppc
[03:05] <max_nooby_noob> would someone kindly tell me to which file I should point Alacarte to in order to launch google earth?
[03:05] <shadeofgrey> trust me brother i know wht im talking about
[03:05] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  what do you use to run it from the command line?
[03:05] <herbheart> NoUse, which changelogs? *.debs come with that??
[03:05] <shadeofgrey> driver support and binaries of all the important progs have yet to be fully ported
[03:05] <Tommy2k4> so i guess i shouldnt of aptget nautilus :p
[03:05] <Tommy2k4> how do i remove it
[03:05] <ubuntu_n00b> mister_roboto, the tool i see is "ewipe" is this what you were refering to?
[03:05] <NoUse> herbheart yeah
[03:05] <titan_> NoUse, I just went ahead and switched to Dapper 64bit, I figured I was doing all that work for nothing, seeing as how I was going to end up switching eventually.
[03:05] <Deformative> Dose anyone use e17?
[03:05] <max_nooby_noob> I tried that but it said: permission denied
[03:05] <max_nooby_noob> I'll try again
[03:05] <herbheart> NoUse, ok. going to have a look. I'll be back
[03:06] <byron> what is e17?
[03:06] <NoUse> herbheart /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/changelog.Debian.gz
[03:06] <Imexius> shouldnt sudo /sbin/modprobe 3c509 add 3c509 to my /etc/modules?
[03:06] <shadeofgrey> titan_, listen bro..  your going to make your life a lot harder than it needs to be..  ditch 64bit
[03:06] <Deformative> Enlightenment.
[03:06] <NoUse> titan_ cool
[03:06] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: apt-get remove nautilus
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> k
[03:06] <byron> does anyone know how to change your msn name with giam
[03:06] <herbheart> but NoUse, that's no use, that appears after the package is installed
[03:06] <byron> becasue I cant
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> ty for all ur help
[03:06] <titan_> shadeofgrey, really, why is that?
[03:06] <vinboy> hi
[03:06] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: np
[03:06] <vinboy> how do I disable X startup?
[03:06] <wastrel> hi
[03:06] <reXin> can anybody here point me in the right direction for setting up dapper with EFI on a Macbook Pro?
[03:06] <byron> Hello
[03:06] <shadeofgrey> titan_, trust me bro - i went that route myself and nearly drove myself nuts.. none of the good software has been ported and driver support is viurtually nonexistant
[03:06] <vinboy> i want to go directly to the console. not the X
[03:07] <Tommy2k4> next time i wont leave exam research to the last minute then try it on linux
[03:07] <byron> throw away the macbook pro
[03:07] <NoUse> reXin bootcamp
[03:07] <reXin> haha... why's that?
[03:07] <Draconicus> jbirdAngel:  http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/sambaguide
[03:07] <ubuntu_n00b> what is a good tool ti wipe my HD clean before sending it to the manafacturer?
[03:07] <NoUse> byron who says its a macbook pro?
[03:07] <shadeofgrey> why in gods name weould anybody throw away a macbookkpro
[03:07] <titan_> shadeofgrey, I see... well that sux... now I got to go re-download 32 bit version...
[03:07] <byron> what?
[03:07] <piratepenguin> Tommy2k4: heh
[03:07] <Tommy2k4> because it might set your leg on fire
[03:07] <shadeofgrey> if your throwing away a macbookpro ill take it
[03:07] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  what's the file?  does it work if you run the file from the command line?  did you try with the 'run in terminal' checkbox checked
[03:07] <byron> talking to Rexin
[03:07] <knome> vinboy: to what effect, just login to ubuntu with command line, or is this for recovering from a abusted X?
[03:07] <shadeofgrey> titan_, use bit torrent..  it'll be twicve as fast
[03:08] <wastrel> ubuntu_n00b:  did you download the wipe program?
[03:08] <NoUse> byron I know
[03:08] <shadeofgrey> titan_, but again, it may not work on the 64bit version
[03:08] <byron> Rexin: macs cost too much and arent suported enough
[03:08] <shadeofgrey> you may have to download the iso through the web
[03:08] <vinboy> knome: i dont want to use X
[03:08] <byron> I jsut am mad at my powerbook 1400 I guess
[03:08] <DShepherd> wastrel: whats the wipe program?
[03:08] <byron> ubt my school runs on macs
[03:08] <ubuntu_n00b> wastrel, i cant find it in the respostries, the wipe tool there is a presentation tool
[03:08] <titan_> shadeofgrey, lol I am beginning to see the headace I will have if I stay with 64, just for your response.
[03:08] <Draconicus> shadeofgrey: I'm thinking about not upgrading to 64bit hardware now that I know there are so many limitations.
[03:08] <reXin> sorry guys. holding onto the macbook pro. love it. i agree they're way too expensive... but i didnt pay for it! :D
[03:08] <max_nooby_noob> oh god, I don't know which friggen command I used. It's not working anymore. I thought it was: sudo /usr/local/googleearth
[03:09] <ubuntu_n00b> wastrel, sorry i was loooking at the wrong file
[03:09] <reXin> got bootcamp goin but lilo just isnt having any of it so far
[03:09] <Mitja> Is it possible to make a fatal mistake with cdrecord if the wrong dev is selected?
[03:09] <wastrel> ubuntu_n00b:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Clean_Hard_Drive_zero_fill
[03:09] <shadeofgrey> draconius, i would still use 64 bit hardware any day because it breaks the 2gig ram barrier and such
[03:09] <reXin> i dont know where i'm goin wrong
[03:09] <mmmiiikkkeee> i tryed to do the upgrade thing the other day.... there was some error now when i start my system... x-windowing system fails to load... but i can get in to the terminal.... but there is no internet so i cant try to do apt-get update... i tryed to run ifup eth0... but it says "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0." what can i do to retorm my system ?
[03:09] <shadeofgrey> and 64 bitubuntu IS coming - iuts just not nearly as complete as the 32bit version
[03:09] <Tommy2k4> sudo konqueror let me delete the file :D
[03:09] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  try  sudo updatedb;  locate googleearth
[03:09] <DShepherd> Mitja: i;m not sure if it would kill anyone
[03:09] <knome> run in runlevel 3.  `sudo init 3' should drop you into runlevel 3 ( multiuser comand line mode , 5 is graphical, 1 is single-user ).  find the point in your startup files that runs init 5 and change it to 3.  presto, no gdm, no X.
[03:10] <jonuk> Question:  When you create a new ext3 filesystem with Unallocated Space, does it automatically use up about 3,406MB of space once it is finished?
[03:10] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  actually try  history  | grep googleearth
[03:10] <Mitja> DShepherd, I mean like formatting partitions and such
[03:10] <DShepherd> Mitja: i;m sure...
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> how do make keyboard keys identified? for example, im trying to get my scroll button on the trackpad to function.. did in breezy but I forget.. (kde now)
[03:10] <DShepherd> Mitja: that;s not sure*
[03:10] <Mitja> ah
[03:10] <Tommy2k4> brb booting into windows to check this floppy works fine
[03:10] <DShepherd> Mitja: why? what's the matter? made a fatal mistake?
[03:10] <max_nooby_noob> thanks wastrel
[03:11] <internat> are there any good tutorials for setting up dual screens in ubutnu?
[03:11] <max_nooby_noob> the command is: sudo /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> internat, check the ubuntu wiki
[03:11] <max_nooby_noob> that launches it from command line
[03:11] <NoUse> !tell internat about xinerama
[03:11] <wastrel> ok
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> internat, and the ubuntu forums
[03:11] <Mitja> DShepherd, no, forget it, I worry too much :)
[03:11] <knome> internat: google lists a few.  et ready to learn /etc/X11/xorg.conf !  man xorg.conf for all the infos.
[03:11] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  do you neeeed sudo for that?
[03:11] <DShepherd> Mitja:  yes you do. stop worrying.. and just live life :-F
[03:12] <max_nooby_noob> I'll try without it
[03:12] <DShepherd> Mitja: :-D
[03:12] <chrisjw> how do I set python files to run automatically using the python interpreter on ubuntu linux
[03:12] <chrisjw> herbheart, I didn't have that in the top of my file but I had execute permission still, it's not opening the file still
[03:12] <max_nooby_noob> permission denied.
[03:12] <wastrel> it's sortof icky to have to use sudo for that
[03:12] <max_nooby_noob> I believe I need sudo to launch it
[03:12] <maikol> i have a system without internet on which i need to install build-essential and others. how can i save the neccessary files onto a cd or other media
[03:13] <max_nooby_noob> Ya I definitely sudo for that.
[03:13] <reXin> no dice for any EFI tutorials? i'm just aching for some core duo ubuntu goodness!
[03:13] <darkyoshi273> How can I make Sound Juicer rip to mp3?
[03:13] <internat> dandy..  ive had it set up before, but something was wierd.. with it, im thinking maybe my monitor is playing up or my ati card is outputting on the composite out and not the other vga
[03:13] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  well the menu command would be gksudo /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth   but try to figure out how to configure things so you don't need sudo
[03:13] <knight488> how can I put echo "enabled : 1" > /proc/acpi/acer/wireless in a runable file so I can use it to flip on my wifi?
[03:13] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, use sudo to change the ownership or permissions so that you don't have to use it for googleearth
[03:13] <max_nooby_noob> wow, how do I do that?!
[03:14] <kbrosnan> maikol, you can download the .deb files i think there is a utility that will grab all the dependencies for it too
[03:14] <ubuntu_n00b> wastrel, i downloaded wipe tool, now how do i run it?
[03:14] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/google-earth
[03:14] <internat> sudo chown a+x /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth
[03:14] <internat> actually what jighead said will be better
[03:14] <wastrel> ubuntu_n00b:  i dunno, never used it myself :]   i just know how to install things.  try  man wipe  and go from there
[03:15] <max_nooby_noob> which one, jighead's or internat's?
[03:15] <ubuntu_n00b> thx
[03:15] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, run sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/google-earth
[03:15] <darkyoshi273> How can I make Sound Juicer rip to mp3?
[03:15] <maikol> kbrosnan from where
[03:15] <wastrel> that's reasonable i suppose
[03:15] <internat> max_nooby_noob, use what jighead said, its better then my suggestion :)
[03:15] <wastrel> chmod -R is icky but sudo all the time for google earth is more so
[03:16] <max_nooby_noob> so sudo chmod ...?
[03:16] <wastrel> yes, you'll need sudo for that chmod
[03:16] <jighead> wastrel, what's wrong with chmod -R?
[03:16] <max_nooby_noob> ok, I did that
[03:16] <max_nooby_noob> now what?
[03:16] <internat> or, cant u just give the executable the special flag?? that lets it run as its owner?
[03:16] <wastrel> jighead:  people use it too much and break their systems
[03:16] <darkyoshi273> Hello, does anybody know? Can I rip to mp3 with Sound Juicer?
[03:17] <jbirdAngel> Draconicus: is it uploaded?
[03:17] <herbheart> darkyoshi273, google "sound juicer mp3"
[03:17] <wastrel> max_nooby_noob:  now try to run google earth without sudo
[03:17] <eclypse> hey guys, I have a basic question/troubleshooting thing that I need to do for the fglrx ati drivers.
[03:17] <jighead> wastrel, well, that's not a flaw with chmod =)
[03:18] <eclypse> I've removed fglrx from linux-restricted-modules-common and its still showing mesa in fglrxinfo
[03:18] <max_nooby_noob> Permission denied
[03:18] <eclypse> what else can I do guys?
[03:18] <knome> vinboy, if the reconfiguring thing looks like a huge pain, you could always download and install the ubuntu server disk.  by default it doesn't even install any graphics software.  I used that and then apt-get xfce-desktop so I wouldn't have to cruft my system with the gnome and kde packages.
[03:19] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, ls -la /usr/local/google-earth and put it in pastebin
[03:19] <DaveyJ> i have a noob question :) -- i'm installing flock.. how do i make a pointer to the .sh in /usr/bin
[03:19] <jighead> !tell max_nooby_noob about pastebin
[03:19] <DaveyJ> or shouldnt i do that at all
[03:19] <gallag> why isn't debconf set to kde or gnome by default? It's much better that way --
[03:19] <mmmiiikkkeee> <srry to repeat my self but this is the trird time i said this and i have waited a good bit with out _any_ responce :(>i tryed to do the upgrade thing the other day.... there was some error now when i start my system... x-windowing system fails to load... but i can get in to the terminal.... but there is no internet so i cant try to do apt-get update... i tryed to run ifup eth0... but it says "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[03:19] <mmmiiikkkeee> ." what can i do to retore my system?
[03:19] <max_nooby_noob> pastebin?
[03:20] <wastrel> !pastebin
[03:20] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:20] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, ubotu sent you a pm, read about how to pastebin
[03:20] <max_nooby_noob> I'm sorry jighead, but I'm not following
[03:20] <max_nooby_noob> k
[03:20] <DaveyJ> mmmiiikkkeee, check the error.. see why it fails to load
[03:20] <Draconicus> jbirdAngel:  http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/sambaguide for the second time.
[03:20] <knome> mmmiiikkkkeee:  run ifconfig, does it show eth0?
[03:21] <eclypse> guys
[03:21] <nekostar> mmmiiikkkeee, also check /etc/network/interfaces
[03:21] <mmmiiikkkeee> the error was something about my ATI card and mouse
[03:21] <eclypse> what can I do to stop mesa from showing in fglrxinfo?
[03:22] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and it should tell you why X won't start, also you can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:22] <max_nooby_noob> when I copied the string you gave me into Search the pastebin it says: nothing could be found
[03:22] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know how to superformat a floppy disk?
[03:22] <SeanTater_> eclypse: I tried -- I ended up never getting it to work..
[03:22] <Aaron_Mason> under ubuntu?
[03:22] <mmmiiikkkeee> ifconfig shows lo vmnet1 and vmnet8
[03:22] <herbheart> Aaron_Mason what is superformat?
[03:23] <Aaron_Mason> herbheart, format to 1.7mb
[03:23] <knome> jighead: unless you have 3 pci graphics cards installed and it configures the builtin apg you have disabled through the BIOS.  : P  experience...
[03:23] <herbheart> Aaron_Mason, what filesystem?
[03:23] <herbheart> FAT?
[03:23] <Aaron_Mason> yeah
[03:23] <eclypse> seantater_: what?
[03:23] <eclypse> oh
[03:23] <eclypse> nvm
[03:23] <eclypse> I got it to work before
[03:23] <eclypse> I merely, forgot what to do.
[03:23] <Mitja> Can cdrecord verify written data?
[03:24] <Draconicus> jahshua: Your silence entertains me.
[03:24] <DaveyJ> i have a noob question :) -- i'm installing flock.. how do i make a pointer to the .sh in /usr/bin .. or is that a bad idea all together?
[03:24] <herbheart> Aaron_Mason, have a look at man mkdosfs
[03:24] <SeanTater_> eclypse: well -- as soon as you remember, TELL ME!
[03:24] <eclypse> lol
[03:24] <knome> vmnet?  are you in a virtual machine?
[03:24] <herbheart> it should look something like mkfs.msdos -F 1700000 /dev/fd0
[03:25] <jighead> knome, ?
[03:25] <max_nooby_noob> jighead, I posted
[03:25] <herbheart> Aaron_Mason, it should look something like mkfs.msdos -F 1700000 /dev/fd0
[03:25] <DaveyJ> -_-
[03:25] <maikol> could someone send me all the necessary files for build-essential in a tar file
[03:25] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, now paste the link here, so that others can look at it
[03:25] <herbheart> mkdosfs == mkfs.msdos
[03:25] <max_nooby_noob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15788
[03:26] <titan_> how do you install a debian file
[03:26] <LjL> !gdebi
[03:26] <ubotu> LjL: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <LjL> titan_: if it's in the repository, "sudo aptitude install <package-name>"
[03:27] <LjL> titan_: if it's not, and you have it downloaded locally, use gdebi
[03:27] <SeanTater> titan_: using the command-line: dpkg -i /path/to/the/deb/file ; apt-get -f install
[03:27] <[arcane] > Draconicus, hmm mp3s cant play
[03:27] <max_nooby_noob> is what I posted ok, jighead?
[03:27] <ubuntu> Help! I have ubuntu totally installed with swap partition then I installed Win XP on the third partition and now I can't get back to Ubuntu because Windows overwrote the MBR how can I fix this using the Ubuntu Live cd
[03:27] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, can you post the exact command you are running that results in Permission denied
[03:27] <BioVorE> oO
[03:27] <LjL> SeanTater: dapper has gdebi now, more convenient
[03:27] <SeanTater> titan_: Like LjL said, 99.9999999% of the .deb's you need are already in the repository
[03:27] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, and if you are getting anything more than perm denial, then pastebin that too
[03:27] <mmmiiikkkeee> xorg.0.log said: load module ati warning couln't open ati.. failed to load...then with kdb and mouse and wacom... then fatal error no screens found
[03:27] <SeanTater> LjL: I'll have to try it
[03:28] <titan_> ok Thanks guys
[03:28] <milhous> ubuntu:  since you installed windows 2nd, you'll probably have to work with the windows xp boot manager.
[03:28] <Draconicus> [arcane] : Are you referring to my irritation caused by rhythmbox's apparent refusal to respond to the existence of gstreamer mp3 codecs?
[03:28] <LjL> SeanTater: it's got a GUI, and it can automatically install dependencies (something that's sorely missed by most people using dpkg)
[03:28] <knome> mmmiiikkkeee do you have 'ati' installed? it is the name of the ati graphics card driver.
[03:28] <[arcane] > Draconicus, well for one dont soley rely on GUI to do stuff
[03:28] <ubuntu> How do I fix the MBR to dual boot Win Xp and Ubuntu?
[03:28] <[arcane] > learn to use the term
[03:28] <herbheart> ubuntu, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[03:29] <SeanTater> LjL: I think smart does that too
[03:29] <herbheart> ubuntu, look at that page, it should help
[03:29] <mmmiiikkkeee> before i tryed the upgrade thing i had the ati driver installed for my dual screen...
[03:29] <RamiKassab> hey guys, i there a free version of VMWare that enabled me to load Windows within Linux? If not, are there any other such applications that you guys can recommend? I need Windows because of certain applications I need for my business that just aren't available for Linux. I'm running Ubuntu. Thanks in advance for any help!
[03:29] <LjL> SeanTater: i would guess so, but while smart looks interesting, i personally wouldn't venture into using it just yet
[03:29] <LjL> SeanTater: gdebi is a much simpler beast
[03:29] <[arcane] > Draconicus, well how is the mp3s going
[03:29] <max_nooby_noob> well, sudo and the path launch the program
[03:29] <ubuntu> Thanks herb
[03:30] <Aaron_Mason> ok, I've just discovered /dev/fd0H1722
[03:30] <milhous> RamiKassab:  there is a free version of vmware available, please go to www.vmware.com.
[03:30] <milhous> it is clearly listed there.
[03:30] <[arcane] > to be using linux you would know that there are over just 1 media player
[03:30] <knome> ubuntu: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236  dual booting winXP and ubuntu , video how to
[03:30] <Aaron_Mason> it wasn't there before I upgraded pmount
[03:30] <max_nooby_noob> without sudo gives me: symlink: Permission denied
[03:30] <LjL> RamiKassab: vmware server is free. the vmware player is also free, though it cannot create new VMs (i hear there are tools around to do that though). there's also qemu
[03:30] <LjL> !tell RamiKassab about vmware
[03:30] <LjL> !tell RamiKassab about qemu
[03:30] <SeanTater> LjL: perhaps -- smart needs much bug-ironing-out, otherwise, I think it's great (I also can't wait until it gets a qt frontend)
[03:30] <dou213> RamiKassab, use Wine, it runs windows apps
[03:30] <CaptainMorgan> how do make keyboard keys identified? for example, im trying to get my scroll button on the trackpad to function.. did in breezy but I forget.. (kde now)
[03:30] <max_nooby_noob> that's it
[03:30] <Draconicus> [arcane] : I've made no progress. I can't seem to diagnose just where rhythmbox fails to connect to gstreamer. All I get is "Could not start pipeline playing"
[03:30] <[arcane] > hmm silence
[03:30] <RamiKassab> dou213: I looked into that but it wont run QuickBooks and Outlook successfully
[03:30] <LjL> SeanTater: does smart have the aptitude-like feature of automatically removing unused dependencies? that's something i couldn't find in the FAQ
[03:31] <RamiKassab> dou213: I need Outlook for synchronizing with my phone
[03:31] <[arcane] > Draconicus, sounds like you didnt configure it correctly
[03:31] <Mitja> Is there a way to perform md5sum on a burnt cd or verify it in any other way?
[03:31] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, there aren't any symlinks in that directory, can you paste the exact command you are running
[03:31] <dou213> RamiKassab, then go for vmware + qemu
[03:31] <[arcane] > Draconicus, also you know gnome has a settings manager that will tell what to use
[03:31] <detox332> can i burn a cd while running a live cd?
[03:31] <[arcane] > btw gstreamer is a backend
[03:31] <mmmiiikkkeee> why would ifconfig not list eth0??
[03:31] <herbheart> Mitja , md5sum /dev/cdrom  <-- assuming this is your cd device
[03:31] <LjL> Mitja: if you have the ISO, just md5sum the ISO, them md5sum /dev/cdrom, and check if the checksums are the same
[03:31] <SeanTater> LjL: not that I know of
[03:31] <Draconicus> [arcane] : I don't use GNOME.
[03:31] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, do you know that you can highlight the command and then use your middle mouse button to paste without any ctl+c/ctl+v?
[03:31] <richiefrich> detox332 yes it   u have another burner ?
[03:31] <SeanTater> LjL: gtg
[03:32] <LjL> SeanTater: that would be a show-stopper for me :(
[03:32] <[arcane] > Draconicus, well what r u using you ubuntu l337
[03:32] <max_nooby_noob> sudo /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth (launches program); /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth (gives me permission denied message as posted)
[03:32] <detox332> no just the one drive
[03:32] <Draconicus> [arcane] : You. Bleed. Now.
[03:32] <Mitja> I did that, but got Input/output error
[03:32] <max_nooby_noob> I didn't jig
[03:32] <RamiKassab> dou213: what does qemu do?
[03:32] <Aaron_Mason> !help
[03:32] <ubuntu> I swear the automatic plug in player for Firefox never works lma
[03:32] <ubuntu> o
[03:32] <Mitja> Maybe under root?
[03:32] <richiefrich> detox332 then not really... but it is possible
[03:32] <dou213> qemu = makes virtual machines
[03:32] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, what does lspci say about your network cards?
[03:32] <[arcane] > Draconicus, hmm that sounds like you dont knwo what your doing
[03:32] <Aaron_Mason> !1.7mbfloppy
[03:32] <max_nooby_noob> thanks for the tip
[03:32] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Aaron_Mason
[03:32] <jonuk> Does anyone know what a "Buffer I/O error" on startup means?
[03:33] <[arcane] > but what do i know you had your scholl switch to linux
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> dammit, this channel moves fast
[03:33] <RamiKassab> dou213: so the methodology here is to run virtual server on Windows? then use qemu to make a virtual machine, and use vm player to load it?
[03:33] <dou213> !tell RamiKassab about qemu
[03:33] <Draconicus> [arcane] : It sounds like Ubuntu is the first distro you've ever managed to get past the installation with. It also looks like it's the only one you're mentally capable of using.
[03:33] <max_nooby_noob> alacarte doesn't allow me to use the sudo command to launch the program from a link
[03:33] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, it's why i'm hopeless lost on windows and osx anymore ;)
[03:33] <richiefrich> detox332   if u can load the liveCD into memory..  some u can then u can eject it
[03:33] <herbheart> CaptainMorgan welcome
[03:33] <detox332> im running the ubuntu breezy live dvd
[03:33] <[arcane] > Draconicus, actually i have used a range of REAL distros
[03:33] <Aaron_Mason> 1.7mbfloppy is update pmount from breezy-backports, then type sudo fdformat /dev/fd0H1722
[03:33] <max_nooby_noob> jighead: :D
[03:33] <herbheart> max_nooby_noob you have to use gksudo
[03:33] <richiefrich> detox332  does that make sence ?
[03:34] <[arcane] > im onlyhere to assist you simpletons that dont know how to read
[03:34] <ubuntu> Herb I can't hear the sound for the movie
[03:34] <max_nooby_noob> in alacarte?
[03:34] <herbheart> to bring up the graphical password screen
[03:34] <Draconicus> [arcane] : Explain the purpose of flags in Gentoo and I'll believe you.
[03:34] <detox332> yeah i thought i could load it into the ram or somethin but i dont know what im doing as far as that
[03:34] <[arcane] > Draconicus, LOL you dont even use gentoo
[03:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> 0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547ei gigabit Ethernet controller (LOM)
[03:34] <jonuk> Does anyone know what a "Buffer I/O error" on startup means?
[03:34] <Aaron_Mason> !1.7mbfloppy
[03:34] <ubotu> Aaron_Mason: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <RamiKassab> dou213: I will look into this, thank you!
[03:34] <[arcane] > Draconicus, if you did you wouldnt be in here
[03:34] <Draconicus> [arcane] : I used Gentoo for almost a year.
[03:34] <TigerWolf> whats the ubuntu alternative for startup in windows
[03:35] <herbheart> ubuntu - do a grub install /dev/hda <--- assuming you only have 1 hdd
[03:35] <Draconicus> [arcane] : You apparently don't use it, either. Despite this, I can tell you what flags are for. Can you tell me the same?
[03:35] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, i'm d/ling googleearth now, give me a minute
[03:35] <RamiKassab> milhous: thank you too
[03:35] <max_nooby_noob> herbheart: in the command field?
[03:35] <[arcane] > Draconicus, just cause you use it doesnt mean you can truely understand it
[03:35] <max_nooby_noob> ok jig thanks
[03:35] <herbheart> yeah
[03:35] <richiefrich> Draconicus anyone can google
[03:35] <[arcane] > Draconicus, your right i use ARCH and FreeBSD
[03:35] <[arcane] > distros you could only dream of using
[03:35] <Draconicus> [arcane] : You're in a losing battle. Stop trying, please. I'd rather not waste more time than I already have.
[03:36] <mmmiiikkkeee> and i have a wireless on here too tha says 0000:03:0d.0 network copntroller: broadcom corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g LAN controller (rev 03)
[03:36] <darkgamer20> will install eclipse install gcj?
[03:36] <detox332> oh man, i just tried to install freebsd
[03:36] <[arcane] > Draconicus, a losing battle how
[03:36] <robert_> hm- I want the pgsql server- is it available as a deb package?
[03:36] <[arcane] > you cant get a amp3 to play
[03:36] <darkgamer20> *will installing eclipse install gcj?
[03:36] <Aaron_Mason> ubotu 1.7mbfloppy is under ubuntu 5.10 Breezy badger, update pmount from breezy-backports, then type sudo fdformat /dev/fd0H1722
[03:36] <ubotu> Aaron_Mason: okay
[03:36] <detox332> dont know what the heck went wrong but its just not working
[03:36] <max_nooby_noob> herb: gksudo and path in the command field of alacarte?
[03:36] <RamiKassab> dou213: have you heard of Win4Lin?
[03:36] <dou213> RamiKassab, no
[03:36] <detox332> i get thru the install and thought thta gnome installed but i guess not
[03:36] <herbheart> max, yup
[03:36] <[arcane] > Draconicus, and just cause you use gentoo doesnt mean you know linux
[03:36] <dou213> RamiKassab, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu
[03:36] <herbheart> ubuntu look at this page...
[03:36] <herbheart> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[03:36] <[arcane] > name what gentoo is based off
[03:36] <herbheart> follow the first comment
[03:37] <RamiKassab> dou213: reading right now
[03:37] <riddlebox> how would I get vncserver to start at boot?
[03:37] <milhous> has anyone had the chance to install ruby on rails yet in 6.06?  a friend of mine is having difficulties installing.  does he need to do more than use sudo apt-get install rails ?
[03:37] <[arcane] > Draconicus, ahh silence
[03:37] <Draconicus> [arcane] : Are you retarded? I said at the very beginning that mpg123 worked fine. It's this shittacular graphical jukebox that's causing me problems.
[03:37] <knome> [arcane] : go troll somewhere else and bother someone who isn't busy trying to help other people.  Being a dick make you look cool, it makes you look like a dick.
[03:37] <max_nooby_noob> that worked herbheart
[03:37] <max_nooby_noob> but I have to enter password to laucn the file
[03:37] <herbheart> ubuntu or this page http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=grub+install+ubuntu+live+cd&btnG=Search
[03:37] <[arcane] > knome, and i could care less
[03:37] <jonuk> Does anyone know what a "Buffer I/O error" on startup means?
[03:37] <max_nooby_noob> I'll take it.
[03:37] <RamiKassab> dou213: so wait, I don't need to create new Virtual Machine Images
[03:37] <qmario> Another attack?
[03:37] <Draconicus> [arcane] : I'm laughing at you. I hope you know that. I don't appreciate trolls.
[03:37] <jonuk> ...
[03:37] <RamiKassab> I just want to run Windows in Linux and use it like normal
[03:37] <[arcane] > if he was so smart he would be able to get a simple mp3 to play
[03:38] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, that's not a great solution, and if you stick with me I can get you going w/o a password or the sudo stuff
[03:38] <dou213> RamiKassab, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmwarePlayer .. should be enough, just install vmware player with "sudo apt-get install vmware-player"
[03:38] <herbheart> max_nooby_noob, that's how u make a menu entry that runs a graphical program as root. such as Synaptic
[03:38] <[arcane] > Draconicus, yeah like i believe that you got your scholl to use linux
[03:38] <milhous> jonuk:  does that error have a dm-3 suffix attached to the end of it?
[03:38] <[arcane] > Draconicus, you must go a reatarted school
[03:38] <Draconicus> [arcane] : I haven't, yet. I'm going to.
[03:38] <PetrolBomb> reatarted
[03:38] <mmmiiikkkeee> if lspci says "0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547ei gigabit Ethernet controller (LOM)" why does ifup eth0 not work?
[03:38] <[arcane] > lol
[03:38] <Draconicus> [arcane] : You have to be pretty retarded to misspell retarded.
[03:38] <[arcane] > man i love this channel
[03:39] <[arcane] > its so easy to get ppl to respond
[03:39] <jonuk> milhous: the full error is "Buffer I/O error on device dm-5, logical block 6326XXX"  (XXX are numbers that it scrolls through)
[03:39] <ubuntu> I can't hear any sound for that video you send me Herb
[03:39] <Draconicus> [arcane] : I'm only responding because I'm bored out of my skull.
[03:39] <[arcane] > because they wish they knew how to use linux
[03:39] <[arcane] > so they use ubuntu
[03:39] <RamiKassab> dou213: ok these should be enough resources to look at, thanks again... the help is much appreciated brother
[03:39] <max_nooby_noob> I'm sticking jig!
[03:39] <herbheart> ubuntu, I didn't send you a video, I send you all text instructions...
[03:39] <[arcane] > Draconicus, well tell ya what
[03:39] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, do you get anything when you do a which googleearth or whereis googleearth
[03:39] <milhous> jonuk:  ok, i'm not sure if i can really help you but i encountered a whole slew of those messages when i was booting the x86 version of the livecd.  after the messages timed out it took me to the setup screen.
[03:39] <ubuntu> The google video video
[03:40] <[arcane] > Draconicus, have you tried running the gui
[03:40] <herbheart> ubuntu, I know that you're using the live cd so you might not have browser plugins
[03:40] <ubuntu> damn ok
[03:40] <[arcane] > from a term correct
[03:40] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, i just intstalled it and, wow, that's pretty cool
[03:40] <jonuk> milhous: yeah, after it gets through all the messages, ubuntu boots up
[03:40] <[arcane] > so why dont you google and see how to fix it
[03:40] <dou213_> hey guys, i've got some errors when trying to remove some apps : http://pastebin.com/712038 ... i've installed a redhat package a couple of days ago, and i guess it installed more apps that don't work with ubuntu... can someone pls help?
[03:40] <Draconicus> [arcane] : It gives the most useless errors. I'm not going to listen to you for help, anyway. You're just going to turn it into more trolling.
[03:40] <max_nooby_noob> yep, it's a very cool program. It does run A LOT better in Windows though
[03:40] <max_nooby_noob> :(
[03:40] <[arcane] > rather than having these ppl feel sorry for you
[03:40] <[arcane] > Draconicus, your the error
[03:40] <herbheart> Hey all, I'll be back
[03:40] <milhous> jonuk:  yeah, it's annoying, now have you have actually installed it to the hard disk yet?
[03:41] <[arcane] > error arent useless
[03:41] <[arcane] > its how you interpert them
[03:41] <wastrel> !ops
[03:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:41] <apokryphos> wastrel: ?
[03:41] <mmmiiikkkeee> if lspci says "0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547ei gigabit Ethernet controller (LOM)" why does ifup eth0 not work?  and ifconfig(does not show eth0)... is there a ways to set up eth0??
[03:41] <nalioth> wastrel: yes?
[03:41] <Draconicus> [arcane] : "Could not start pipeline playing" tells us very little.
[03:41] <puff> Evening.
[03:41] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, what dos lsmod say, anything about e1000 being loaded?
[03:41] <jonuk> milhous: yeah, it started happening when I partitioned/formatted a big block of allocated space on my hard drive
[03:41] <AfterDeath> Draconicus, [arcane]  left
[03:41] <puff> I thought i kicked off a download of ubuntu server, but when I came back the next day, it was ubuntu-client.
[03:41] <Draconicus> AfterDeath: Thank god.
[03:41] <nalioth> wastrel: was there a reason you called us?
[03:41] <wastrel> ah sry :]   arcane was pissing me off
[03:42] <wastrel> he was being abusive
[03:42] <Draconicus> wastrel: No. Thank you.
[03:42] <wastrel> left just after i called
[03:42] <puff> I'm having trouble finding a definition of the difference between ubuntu client and server, what's the story?
[03:42] <Draconicus> I have obsessive compulsive disorder.
[03:42] <milhous> jonuk:  ok, so this is happening when you're booting to hard disk too?
[03:42] <dou213_> someone? whenever i try to upgrade, it returns some errors... http://pastebin.com/712017
[03:42] <stever> Perhaps I am an idiot... I checked Automatic Login and when I boot up, it still wants a password.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:42] <Draconicus> I can't stop in an argument like that.
[03:42] <dou213_> i've got some errors when trying to remove some apps : http://pastebin.com/712038 ... i've installed a redhat package a couple of days ago, and i guess it installed more apps that don't work with ubuntu...
[03:42] <puff> I'm doing this to convert an old 400Mhz Pentium into a fileserver/intranet/SVN server.
[03:42] <milhous> puff:  ubuntu server does not have a GUI installed by default.
[03:42] <jonuk> milhous:  yeah, i have ubuntu on my hard drive only
[03:42] <milhous> puff:  all command line.
[03:43] <max_nooby_noob> so what do you suggest jighead?
[03:43] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, what do you get when you run which googleearth
[03:43] <max_nooby_noob> ???
[03:43] <mmmiiikkkeee> it says e1000 <tab> 104116 <space> 0
[03:43] <milhous> jonuk:  that's definitely a pain, i fortunately didn't see any more of those messages after i installed it.
[03:43] <robert_> can I install the pgsql server under Ubuntu>
[03:43] <MdSalih> i've just installed ubuntu 6.06... trying to play an mpeg... not getting any sound
[03:43] <jonuk> milhous: it's very strange.  i've tried deleting the partition, reformatting...and it still happens
[03:43] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, in the term type "which googleearth"
[03:43] <MdSalih> do i need to install a certain codec or something ?
[03:43] <milhous> jonuk:  and i think i nuked the entire disk as opposed to a partition with the most available space.
[03:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MdSalih about multimedia
[03:43] <CaptainMorgan> how do I restartx from command line in kde? startx restartx don't work...
[03:44] <ubuntu> Why can't I mount my hard drive using the live cd?
[03:44] <nalioth> MdSalih: watch your private messages
[03:44] <max_nooby_noob> in what term jig?
[03:44] <jonuk> milhous: i may end up wiping the whole thing too, which really sucks
[03:44] <MdSalih> nalioth - i've not sent anyone a PM
[03:44] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start'
[03:44] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, your terminal, or command line
[03:44] <nalioth> MdSalih: no, but our info bot has sent you one
[03:44] <max_nooby_noob> just like that: which googleearth?
[03:44] <MdSalih> oh gotcha
[03:44] <MdSalih> thanks
[03:44] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, bingo
[03:44] <max_nooby_noob> :D
[03:45] <max_nooby_noob> it says this: /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[03:45] <CaptainMorgan> nalioth: weird...
[03:45] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[03:45] <ubuntu> ping
[03:45] <milhous> jonuk:  well ok, here's what i say.  back-up what you have on your other partitions, then nuke the disc.  if after you do that and do the install and find that the error message goes away, then i would defintely file a bug.  i mean, ubuntu will boot it's just that you have to get through all those error messages right?
[03:45] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, ok, so now do an ls -la /usr/local/bin and googleearth should point somewhere, paste where it is pointing
[03:46] <milhous> jonuk:  because, if it's not critical i mean you could just leave it as is until they find a fix for that particular bug.
[03:46] <ubuntu> Why can't I mount my hard drive using the live cd?
[03:46] <max_nooby_noob>  ls -la /usr/local/bin and googleearth
[03:46] <max_nooby_noob> just like that?
[03:46] <jonuk> milhous: that's correct...I may try deleting the partition first and then rebooting.  It seems like the partition was what's causing the error
[03:46] <mmmiiikkkeee> what does lsmod tell u anyways
[03:46] <puff> milhous: Okay,given that it took something like 7 hours to download ubuntu client, is it worth the trouble to dowload ubuntu server, or can I easily convert this client install to a server install?
[03:47] <jighead> max_nooby_noob, nope, this "ls -la /usr/local/bin"
[03:47] <ubuntu> Why can't I mount my hard drive using the live cd?
[03:47] <jonuk> milohus: i'm really surprised...i've posted on forums and in here and no one seems to have any clue abuot the error...it's odd
[03:47] <max_nooby_noob> total 8
[03:47] <max_nooby_noob> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-06-15 09:05 .
[03:47] <max_nooby_noob> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2006-06-15 09:05 ..
[03:47] <max_nooby_noob> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   36 2006-06-15 09:05 googleearth -> /usr/local/google-earth//googleearth
[03:47] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, it is a list of loaded modules
[03:47] <milhous> jonuk:  yes, unfortunately, everyone seems to have their own quirks that not everyone else has, but at least i was able to confirm for you that others have seen it like myself.
[03:48] <apokryphos> max_nooby_noob: no pasting in here please
[03:48] <nalioth> max_nooby_noob: please read the /topic and use a pastebin for pasting stuff
[03:48] <max_nooby_noob> oh, sorry ... forgot
[03:48] <jonuk> milhous: yes thanks for that
[03:48] <stever> I can't make automatic login work in GNOME to save my life.  It broke after I upgraded a bunch of gnome stuff. :(
[03:48] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, what interfaces do you get from ifconfig?
[03:48] <SurfnKid> hi
[03:48] <SurfnKid> how can i mount my ntfs partitiio
[03:48] <SurfnKid> n
[03:48] <SurfnKid> with mount?
[03:48] <milhous> puff:  it's probably not worth it unless you want to download it overnight or something.  basically, the server version doesn't have all the software the that client would have, including the x-server.
[03:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SurfnKid about mountwindows
[03:48] <SurfnKid> nalioth: thx
[03:49] <mmmiiikkkeee> lo vmnet1 and vmnet8
[03:49] <detox332> Draconicus: just wanted to let you know that [arcane]  helped me out with my questions on freebsd without making me feel like an idiot
[03:49] <milhous> puff:  personally, i like the convenience of having a graphical client with my server, i currently have an old athlon box running ubuntu client with smb services turned on.
[03:49] <milhous> puff:  so i can use it as a file server and in addition, i can ssh into it and also VNC into it if i want to.
[03:49] <milhous> puff:  it all depends on how comfortable you are with it.
[03:50] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, do a dmesg | less and look around for the card to be recognized and see if it is getting assigned to one of those if's
[03:50] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, also, do either of the vmnet if's have an IP address?
[03:51] <SurfnKid> on another note..  anyone using amsn?
[03:51] <dou213_> hey guys, i try removing an app, but it won't work. help needed. thx: http://pastebin.com/712057
[03:51] <ubuntu> I was jighead until I installed gayass windows
[03:51] <SurfnKid> here's the problem under 6.06 I can view smileys, receive and under 5.10 i cant. the version of amsn is .95 on both so im not sure what to do
[03:52] <puff> milhous: Well, it' sonly a 400Mhz pentium.
[03:52] <puff> Hm, okay, so is there a default root password on a new install?  I'm installing it over an olllllllld debian  install.
[03:52] <puff> four years or more.
[03:52] <Mixx> I'm getting the message trying to log in: "GDM could not write to your authorization file.  This could mean you're out of disk space or home directory could not be opened for writing"
[03:52] <mmmiiikkkeee> vmnet1 and vmnet8 has inet address and Bcast address...
[03:52] <Mixx> i'm not out of disk space
[03:53] <SinnerG> then it must be the 2nd part...
[03:53] <puff> it didn't prompt me to choose a password or anything.
[03:53] <SinnerG> puff: ubuntu uses sudo
[03:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> i dont think that is an ip address but i am not sure?
[03:53] <SinnerG> or you mean to login?
[03:53] <milhous> puff:  there is no default password set, you will have to set it if you need it.
[03:53] <Mixx> and i've read about people recommending to delete .Xauthority file or something, but i'm not sure if i should
[03:53] <dou213_> !root
[03:53] <internat> Mixx, check ur permissions
[03:53] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:53] <nalioth> dou213_: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[03:53] <Mixx> internat what should they be?
[03:53] <SurfnKid> f?
[03:54] <dou213_> nalioth, same error
[03:54] <nalioth> dou213_: interesting
[03:54] <Aesop> Two questions: How do I change the password it asks me for when I execute SUDO, and how to I get ESD to stop turning the $@#$ on every time I start gnome?
[03:54] <Mixx> btw, I can log in to term, just not with X
[03:54] <mister_roboto> Mixx: what does "ls -al ~/.Xauthority" tell you?
[03:54] <jighead> mmmiiikkkeee, you'll see something like this: inet addr:192.168.2.5
[03:55] <Aesop> Nevermind, I think ubotu will give me the first one
[03:55] <dou213_> nalioth, any clue? pls... i can't apt-get upgrade with this error...
[03:55] <wastrel> why do you need the -a if you're giving an explicit filename?
[03:55] <Aesop> That leaves me with: How to get ESD to not turn on automatically?
[03:55] <nalioth> dou213_: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall cman"
[03:55] <gavagai> Wondershaper is working on my ubuntu box in terms of internet traffic, but is having unexpected effects on my LAN traffic as well, like download speeds are much worse from my lan than the internet. Anyone have an idea why?
[03:55] <Mixx> -rw------- 1 root root 119 2006-066-14 23:23 /home/mixx/.Xauthority
[03:55] <cynical> Is there any way to change the way ubuntu handles the root account? I kind of like the old method of doing things
[03:55] <mister_roboto> wastrel: good point, reflex :)
[03:56] <ubuntu> Man I'm so glad I didn't start with FreeBSD or some other distro
[03:56] <bimberi> !xhangs
[03:56] <herbheart> Aesop : System -> Preferences -> Sound
[03:56] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[03:56] <mister_roboto> wastrel: i always add the -a with wildcards to show them all
[03:56] <dou213_> nalioth, same error... again :(
[03:56] <Mixx> thanks bimberi i'll try that
[03:56] <Aesop> herbheart, Thank you!
[03:56] <mmmiiikkkeee> yea inet address: 172.16.87.1 for the vmnet1  and for vmnet8  192.168.139.1
[03:56] <nalioth> cynical: unless you want to chase down a bunch of headaches, it's easier to learn the 'sudo' way.  (if you install Ubuntu from "expert install" and choose a root account, there are 0 problems, but converting to a root account with a default install causes some snags to show up)
[03:56] <SurfnKid> isnt 'rm' used to delete a directory?
[03:56] <nalioth> dou213_: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[03:56] <HellDragon> w
[03:56] <SurfnKid> or rd
[03:57] <mister_roboto> Mixx: change the ownership to your id  "sudo chown Mixx ~/.Xauthority"
[03:57] <nalioth> SurfnKid: rmdir works on empty dirs
[03:57] <bimberi> Mixx: np, you'll need to 'sudo rm...'
[03:57] <Mixx> bimberi - could it be related to me trying to do a "Hibernate"?  the hibernate never worked
[03:57] <herbheart> cynical : sudo -i gives you temporary root
[03:57] <herbheart> no need to install a real root
[03:57] <SurfnKid> nalioth: ok
[03:57] <bimberi> Mixx: not sure sorry
[03:57] <ubuntu> Anyway to play .avi's off the live cd?
[03:57] <cynical> nalioth: so if I choose expert install and go through that and try to use sudo in ubuntu it will prompt me for my root pass and not my acc pass?
[03:57] <Mixx> mister_roboto - thank you
[03:58] <nalioth> cynical: if you use 'expert install' and tell the installer you want a 'real' root account, you'll have an Ubuntu with a user and root password
[03:58] <cynical> herbheart: I'm looking to change ubuntu's method back to what it used to be. Similar to how most linux distros handle it
[03:58] <Healot> static compiled xine package off the USB Flash disk, maybe?
[03:58] <cynical> nalioth: ah thanks, didnt know that
[03:58] <herbheart> cynical, Matter of fact, since Ubuntu,I've switched to using sudo on even my debian boxes
[03:58] <uXp> anyone know of a good music organizer and also a player for music, besides XMMS
[03:58] <cynical> herbheart: old habits die hard :)
[03:58] <mister_roboto> Mixx: actually you should change the group too  (chown Mixx:Mixx)
[03:58] <gigaclon> uXp, rhythmbox
[03:58] <herbheart> cynical, with sudo -i it's like typing su
[03:58] <Etheri> amarok is awesome
[03:59] <herbheart> cynical, except yo type your password instead of roots
[03:59] <jonuk> Question:  if I format some unallocated space as ext3, should there be about 3,406 MB of USED space on it when its finished partitioning
[03:59] <nalioth> herbheart: aint sudo nice?
[03:59] <puff> SinnerG: I know ubuntu uses sudo, I'm not talking about the root password, it didn't prompt me to choose *any* password.
[03:59] <cynical> herbheart: yeah
[03:59] <herbheart> nalioth, it's beautiful
[03:59] <gigaclon> im playing a XviD file with Xine, but all it does is play it fast with no picture and no sound
[03:59] <Dial_tone> is there a command simiiar to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg that will JUST redo the resolution choices w/o confiuring the card?
[03:59] <nalioth> puff: did you take into consideration that sudo has a 5 to 15 minute timeout in the same terminal?
[03:59] <herbheart> cynical, it even drops you in /root as your current directory, and changes the prompt to root@machinename
[04:00] <Snowfairy> is there a tool for ubuntu that will allow me to track how much bandwidth I've used and keep track of that between reboots and such?
[04:00] <jonuk> Please...when I format some unallocated space, every time it automatically uses up about 3,408MB every time
[04:00] <cynical> herbheart: I'll remember that, thanks :)
[04:00] <puff> How hard is it to get samba (or whatever you need to let the winblows users feel comfy) working on ubuntu?
[04:00] <jonuk> and I don't konw where it comes from
[04:00] <billybennett> whats the linux cmd to see how much space is left on all hard-drives...?
[04:00] <ubuntu> loonix!!!
[04:00] <uXp> gigaclon:  does it support wmv?
[04:00] <wastrel> billybennett:  df
[04:00] <Dial_tone> billy, df -h
[04:00] <billybennett> thanks wastrel
[04:00] <puff> nalioth: i'm not talking about sudo, just about logins in general.
[04:01] <Mixx> !pastebin
[04:01] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:01] <uXp> cna anyone tell me what this music program is called? > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre3/39179-3.jpg
[04:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> i see a lot of ndiswrapper loadndisdwrapper failed errors....
[04:01] <gigaclon> uXp, it should
[04:01] <puff> Hm, something funky about this hardware, it seems to loop through the memory test sevearl times.
[04:01] <puff> Minutes.
[04:02] <Etheri> my screensaver is crashing my dapper system I think :S
[04:02] <mmmiiikkkeee> maybe i should disable the ndiswrapper for now... and see if tha helps?
[04:02] <monoman> What's the best way to play .avi's off the live cd?
[04:02] <Etheri> it doesn't always freeze when the screensaver comes on but it definately does when I try to change it, is there anyway I can disable it completely?
[04:03] <maikol>  i found the build-essential packages on a cd. after completeing the os install, can i apt-get install from the cd?
[04:03] <puff> Ah, hm.
[04:03] <wastrel> anyone got a creative zen muvo mp3 player - does it work OK with lunix
[04:03] <nickrud> maikol, yes
[04:03] <puff> it didn't actually install ubunntu, must have just done a boot-from-Cd.
[04:03] <LiteHedded> anyone use smoothwall here?
[04:03] <maikol> nickrud add to sources.list?
[04:03] <puff> I could swear I selected the "install" entry.
[04:03] <Healot> yes... because it is treated like another USB Flash disk...
[04:04] <mmmiiikkkeee> it also says vmnet8/1: no IPv6 routers present
[04:04] <Mixx> mister_roboto and/or bimberi - i did both of your suggestions (changing ownership on .Xauthority was tried after that directory was deleted) now I am getting the error "Your session only lasted 10 seconds....." with the /.xsession-errors reading: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15789
[04:04] <nickrud> maikol, after the install, the cdrom is already in sources. After you get build-essential (and anything else you need) you might want to remove it
[04:04] <Toma-> ANyone one using an M:Robe with ubuntu? I can find any software to sync with it :*(
[04:04] <Healot> mmmiiikkkeee: don't worry about ipv6 router
[04:04] <_sojourner> is there anything like superkaramba that is native to gnome ?
[04:04] <benkong2> why is it my mouse scroll stops working sometimes in firefox?
[04:04] <Toma-> _sojourner: gdesklets
[04:05] <Healot> that just indicates tehre isn't any ipv6 router around...
[04:05] <mmmiiikkkeee> ok...
[04:05] <Toma-> anyone know where i can find this perl module? apt-file shows nothing Tie/CPHash.pm
[04:05] <mmmiiikkkeee> so tha not related to why my eth0 is not working with if up eth0
[04:05] <Mixx> I should mention this is ubuntu x64
[04:05] <SurfnKid> guys how do you disregard a file you modified in vi
[04:06] <SurfnKid> lets say if i made a mistake and i want to bail out without saving
[04:06] <Krhis> :q!
[04:06] <Kyral> :q!
[04:06] <Dial_tone> why does editing xorg.conf not work for adding resolutions? what does 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' do that editing xorg.conf doesn't?
[04:06] <milhous> bingo
[04:06] <mmmiiikkkeee> how can i disable the ndiswrapper it has a lot of erros on here
[04:06] <SurfnKid> exxlnt!
[04:06] <milhous> q with an apostrophe = quit without save
[04:06] <Krhis> Nice one, Kyral.
[04:06] <Krhis> ^^
[04:06] <Kyral> The power of...VIM!
[04:06] <Kyral> :wq!
[04:06] <Kyral> :w!
[04:06] <Kyral> gg=G
[04:06] <milhous> i mean q with exclamatioN!
[04:06] <milhous> ha.
[04:06] <SurfnKid> ok
[04:06] <Kyral> bonus points if you know what the last one does :P
[04:06] <SurfnKid> Kyral: is that saving?
[04:06] <Kyral> gg=G?
[04:07] <Kyral> :w! is saving
[04:07] <Kyral> :wq! is save and quit
[04:07] <Kyral> :q! is quit
[04:07] <Krhis> While we're on it.... what's the diffrance between vi and vim? "Improved" dosn't say much. ^^
[04:07] <SurfnKid> :q! is quit period, screw changes get out! :P
[04:07] <robert_> why, when installing ubuntu packages, do I need the cd?
[04:07] <mortal5> hi all, I need help installing ubuntu on an XFS file system, I've heard this can cause trouble and i need a work around
[04:07] <Kyral> mortal5: no trouble
[04:07] <Mixx> Dial_tone - I'd love to know the same thing
[04:07] <LiteHedded> anyone use smoothwall here?
[04:07] <Kyral> mortal5: as long as the power doesn't go out...
[04:07] <SurfnKid> im having to learn vi and vim so i can be safe in case i ever need it
[04:08] <nGen>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password
[04:08] <mortal5> Kyral: ok, well my installer is crashing with error code one
[04:08] <Krhis> I have a friend that only uses nano.
[04:08] <Kyral> btw gg=G reindents the ENTIRE file based on its type
[04:08] <mcrandello> anyone have problems with launch feedback being missing in dapper?
[04:08] <nGen> =x
[04:08] <Kitsune818> I can see needing to know how to use vi in a pinch, but what really is wrong with using Pico?
[04:08] <Kyral> no syntax hilighting
[04:08] <harfooz> Hi all. I just ran my update manager and my nvidia driver is now broken. I then tried following the easylinux instructions for dapper, and my nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source packages are the latest version. What can I do next?
[04:08] <Krhis> mcrandello, you'll need to pull up the menu editor.
[04:08] <DarkMageZ> pgp & gpg are the same thing right?
[04:08] <mcrandello> Kitsune818, gnu users prefer nano ;)
[04:09] <Mixx> harfooz - define broken
[04:09] <Krhis> mcrandello, it's just hidden.
[04:09] <Kyral> DarkMageZ: GPG is the Open Source implementation of PGP
[04:09] <mcrandello> Krhis, ahh thx
[04:09] <Aesop> Hrm, is it possible to have different backgrounds on different desktops?
[04:09] <harfooz> Mixx when I rebooted, X will not start because of the nvidia module.
[04:09] <Kyral> with KDE
[04:09] <Krhis> DarkMageZ, PGP is just standards. GPG is a client.
[04:09] <SurfnKid> Kitsune818: is Pico always installed asi with 'vi,vim'
[04:09] <Mixx> harfooz is that the error message?
[04:09] <Krhis> PGP is also a client.
[04:09] <Kyral> Emacs...and Vim
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> Kyral & Krhis thanks
[04:09] <nickrud> harfooz, any reason in particular you're not using the nvidia module in restricted modules?
[04:10] <Aesop> Emacs rocks.
[04:10] <Krhis> DarkMageZ, any time.
[04:10] <Kyral> np
[04:10] <mortal5> ok, has anyone installed ubuntu on the xfs file system?
[04:10] <harfooz> Mixx I'm getting the exact message from the log now.
[04:10] <Kitsune818> Hmm.. Well, I used to be stuck on an old NEC mainframe running some BSD.. this was about 15 years ago.. and I was forced to use vi. Then we got Pine, and I started using Pico.. just wondering if I'm doing harm by using it in Linux
[04:10] <Spy> hey every1
[04:10] <Kyral> Kitsune818: Nano is Pico basically
[04:10] <jorvis_> what command can I do to see all the /dev/hda* on my system when I'm booted from the LiveDVD ?
[04:10] <harfooz> nickrud, I have the restricted repos enabled already.
[04:10] <Kyral> but under the GPL
[04:10] <Mixx> harfooz - i'm only asking because I'm having a similar problem but I'm not sure that it's related to the nvidia driver
[04:10] <nickrud> harfooz, then why do you need the sources?
[04:10] <Spy> does any1 know why quake3 is forced to run in window mode even though the setting are set for fullscreen?
[04:10] <puff> m.
[04:10] <puff> hm.
[04:11] <billybennett> anyone know how I can open up a .bin file to get its contents?
[04:11] <harfooz> nickrud, because the instructions at easylinux say so.
[04:11] <nickrud> !nvidia
[04:11] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:11] <nickrud> harfooz, much easier^^
[04:11] <mcrandello> Krhis, you mean there should be a "launch feedback" entry under the preferences menu that's not checked?
[04:11] <monoman> fuck what plays .avi's in UBUNTU!?!?!!
[04:11] <Krhis> jorvis_, did you try "mount"?
[04:11] <Kitsune818> Kyral: Ooooh.. I just tried it
[04:11] <Spy> it used to work before i installed xgl
[04:11] <Krhis> mcrandello, let me check....
[04:11] <Etheri> how do I disable the screensaver without using the graphical menu?
[04:11] <mcrandello> if so I'm missing a capplet
[04:11] <cjones> what does "dpkg -configure -a
[04:11] <cjones> " do and why wouldent it work ?
[04:12] <mcrandello> monoman,  vlc
[04:12] <jorvis_> Krhis: I'm booted off the LiveDVD, so all that shows me is the tempfs that are mounted
[04:12] <interferon> i upgraded to dapper, and now i get errors about gnome not being able to create my session unless i log in in failsafe mode.  this happens even with newly-created users.  any ideas?
[04:12] <Krhis> mcrandello, I'm using Alacarte to get to it.
[04:12] <jorvis_> i had the command yesterday but forgot it.  :P
[04:12] <SurfnKid> ok brb
[04:12] <monoman> omg i'm such an idiot
[04:12] <mcrandello> monoman, I think it's in universe
[04:12] <mcrandello> Krhis, I'm in alacarte as well
[04:12] <monoman> universe/
[04:12] <Krhis> mcrandello, are you talking about the Bug Reporting Tool?
[04:13] <mcrandello> no I mean the "hourglass" thing when you launch a program
[04:13] <harfooz> Mixx, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found
[04:13] <cjones> why do i get Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[04:13] <cjones> Please close the other application e.g. 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first. when nothing is running ?
[04:13] <TheoMurpse> I just installed Dapper Drake, and have no internet. I went to the network settings in the default menu, and the eth0 card is recognized and set to active. I have tried both DHCP (which my router is set to), and have tried a static IP within the range allowed by my router's configuration, and I still have no network. Ping does not work either. I have opened a terminal window and tried "ifconfig eth0 down" to turn it off, but am told I don't have the pe
[04:13] <TheoMurpse> rmissions. How can I switch to root? I never was asked for a root password, so I don't know what it is.
[04:13] <KanRiNiN> anyone know when the new mplayer pre-8 will be added to repos?
[04:14] <Krhis> TheoMurpse, it's your user password.
[04:14] <nickrud> cjones, because you have more than one tool running
[04:14] <TheoMurpse> Krhis I tried this, and still got permission denied.
[04:14] <Krhis> TheoMurpse, you can use "sudo -i"
[04:14] <cjones> nickrud but i dont have anything else running ?
[04:14] <Krhis> Not su
[04:14] <jorvis_> Krhis: it was "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell TheoMurpse about root
[04:14] <TheoMurpse> krhis so I type "sudo -i" then the password?
[04:14] <Krhis> Ah, odd.
[04:14] <Krhis> Try it.
[04:15] <nickrud> cjones, er or a very unlikely other situation: try ps -ax | grep apt
[04:15] <Krhis> No, not TheoMurpse
[04:15] <Krhis> I wasn't talking to you on the sudo -i one.
[04:15] <bimberi> TheoMurpse: yep, with your userpassword
[04:15] <Krhis> I'm still looking for your sulotion.
[04:15] <Kitsune818> What software do people recommend to use my iPod under ubuntu? I tried Rhythmbox but it won't load my mp3s.
[04:15] <Krhis> bimberi, he dosn't need sudo help
[04:15] <nickrud> cjones, that looks thru running processes, and tell you all that have the char string apt in them
[04:16] <Kitsune818> And I have a bunch of iTunes purchases that I guess are totally hosed now.. I wish I had thought of that :/
[04:16] <riddlebox> Kitsune818, sharp musique
[04:16] <jorvis_> Kitsune818: don't know, but I tried gtkpod and it saw everything on my iPod but removed its internal database completely when I synced for the first time.  I had to format it and start over.
[04:16] <Krhis> TheoMurpse, what did you mean by "hour glass thing"?
[04:16] <mcrandello> basically when I double click an app icon on my desktop nothing happens for a goot 10-15 seconds until the program shows up.
[04:16] <jorvis_> Kitsune818: you can download them again from iTunes.   You just have to write them
[04:16] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried iwconfig eth1 essid any
[04:16] <TheoMurpse> krhis I didn't say anything about an hour glass.
[04:17] <nickrud> cjones, did you get any processes listed?
[04:17] <riddlebox> jorvis_I think gtkpod turned into sharp musique
[04:17] <bimberi> Krhis: um...
[04:17] <Krhis> Sorry, pressed tab too many times.
[04:17] <TheoMurpse> In any case, I'm goign to log out of Windows and boot up Ubuntu. Wish me luck getting my ethernet card working!
[04:17] <mcrandello> Krhis, "application launch feedback", that's the term
[04:17] <Krhis> Yes, I'm looking.
[04:17] <TheoMurpse> Thanks, all.
[04:17] <Kitsune818> jorvis: Yeah, but they are protected, aren't they?
[04:17] <Mixx> harfooz - not the same issue i'm having, but you could try to reinstall nvidia driver via !nvidia
[04:18] <MilesAttacca> Is QtParted included on the server-install Dapper Drake ISO?
[04:18] <mcrandello> so that you don't doubleclick too many times and say launch 30 copies of firefox
[04:18] <harfooz> Mixx, I'm going to try that now.
[04:18] <Spy> hey does any1 know if i can create a login session type which doesn't start xgl?
[04:18] <mcrandello> yeah, I'm one of those types :(
[04:18] <cjones> nickrud a whole bucnh want me to put them in pastebin?
[04:18] <JohnsonE> is there any way to like, refresh USB devices?
[04:18] <Mixx> I am unable to log in to X following with error "Your session only lasted 10 seconds....." with the /.xsession-errors reading: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15789
[04:18] <qmario> Why aren't there many people here?
[04:18] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried iwconfig eth1 essid any
[04:19] <bimberi> MilesAttacca: the server install won't have any gui apps (such as qtparted)
[04:19] <nickrud> notice cjones you could pm me that short list
[04:19] <MilesAttacca> Why not?
[04:19] <nickrud> :)
[04:19] <cjones> its not that short
[04:19] <nickrud> cjones, sure then
[04:19] <MilesAttacca> I mean, it's 429MB (AMD64). You'd figure.
[04:19] <bimberi> MilesAttacca: because servers generally don't run GUIs
[04:19] <cjones> nickrud http://pastebin.com/712089
[04:20] <Spy> guys quake3 runs fine except it seems keyboard input and mouse input is very laggy
[04:20] <steev> so earlier, i upgraded, and it bumped my kernel, and now vmware-player doesn't work, do i need to wait for vmware-player-kernel-modules to be bumped as well?
[04:20] <robert_> How do I install pgsql under ubuntu?
[04:20] <Spy> but the game seems to run at a high fps
[04:20] <nickrud> cjones, you forgot the | grep apt part of the command ;)
[04:20] <Spy> what can be wrong?
[04:20] <harfooz> Mixx, it looks like I had a previous version of the linux-restricted-modules.
[04:20] <MilesAttacca> ...The way the download page led me to believe, "desktop" was strictly for running a live CD, and "server" was for actually permanently installing it.
[04:20] <nickrud> cjones, but I would have missed the update-manager, that's the problem
[04:20] <harfooz> I'm about done with the installation -- will try it out now.
[04:20] <Krhis> mcrandello, wow this is tough.
[04:20] <harfooz> Mixx, back (hopefully) with some good news.
[04:20] <MilesAttacca> *sigh* It'll take me at least another full week to get this on dial-up now. >>
[04:20] <Kitsune818> Miles: I thought the same thing
[04:21] <Krhis> Can't pull anything up about it.
[04:21] <bimberi> robert_: install a postgresql package (eg. postgresql-8.1)
[04:21] <Krhis> When did this start happening?
[04:21] <robert_> ah
[04:21] <robert_> ok
[04:21] <wastrel> MilesAttacca:  order a CD - it's free
[04:21] <mcrandello> Krhis, galf I think is the name of the capplet
[04:21] <MilesAttacca> Yeah, but how long will it take to ship?
[04:21] <wastrel> dunno
[04:21] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried iwconfig eth1 essid any
[04:21] <excess> ``Replaced by files in installed package libnss3 ...
[04:21] <excess> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb (--unpack):
[04:21] <excess>  unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/libgfxpsshar.so': No such file or directory
[04:21] <mcrandello> there's also one called xalf, I don't see either in apt-cache search
[04:21] <excess> anyone help?
[04:22] <excess> i cant get firefox installed for shit
[04:22] <JohnsonE> firefox comes installed
[04:22] <MilesAttacca> The ShipIt page didn't look very promising when I last checked, something like 8-10 weeks.
[04:22] <excess> yeah well it broke so i uninstalled it and now i dont have anything
[04:22] <bimberi> MilesAttacca: you can do a server install and then install the gui components later.  Still a large download but smaller than another ISO
[04:22] <Kitsune818> apt-get install firefox?
[04:22] <steev> mcrandello: you are wanting an app that stops you from clicking too many times?   what about adding startup notification?
[04:22] <brant> wow, unfortunate topic :(
[04:22] <excess> yeah thats the error i get from trying to apt-get it
[04:23] <MilesAttacca> I deleted the download anyway. :P I'll just use this as more rant-material to convince my parents to get broadband someday in the next 10 years.
[04:23] <wastrel> hmm the topic is hosed isn't it
[04:23] <Krhis> steev, s/he wants to get the hour glass up.
[04:23] <MilesAttacca> While they're looking at Netscape's ISP and some Catholic-church-provided thing... *sigh* They never learn.
[04:23] <Etheri> sorry, I asked this earlier but didn't get a response, how do I disable the screensaver without using the graphical menu?
[04:23] <mcrandello> steev, that's exactly what I want., You know what package I need for startup notification?
[04:23] <brant> Etheri: xscreensaver?
[04:23] <steev> Krhis: afaik, have to edit each desktop file, and set startup-notification=true or something along those lines
[04:23] <brant> Etheri: you can use xscreensaver-command
[04:23] <steev> assuming its in gnome
[04:24] <mcrandello> wow
[04:24] <bimberi> Etheri: killall gnome-screensaver
[04:24] <Etheri> brant: whatever comes default with dapper
[04:24] <Mixx> harfooz - ?
[04:24] <MilesAttacca> Well, if it does take up to six weeks to deliver, I could certainly use the time to get all my files ready and learn a few more commansd. :)
[04:24] <harfooz> Mixx, nickrud the problem with my nvidia driver was due to the linux-restricted-modules. I've got it working again!
[04:24] <steev> the other option, is to have self control to not repeatedly click it :-P
[04:24] <Mixx> harfooz - nice
[04:24] <harry> how do you transfer music form ipod using ubuntu???
[04:24] <MilesAttacca> I think meanwhile I'll use my new system to make The World's Fastest Windows 3.1 Machine. :D Problem solved.
[04:24] <jighead> Etheri, do you want to kill it once or disable it for good?
[04:24] <avis> harry, banshee.
[04:24] <robert_> whee
[04:24] <Kitsune818> harry: it appears to be mounted at /media/ipod
[04:25] <robert_> Mike's Hard Lemonade <3 :P
[04:25] <Etheri> jighead: disable it for good
[04:25] <puff> Okay, so I let it reboot and it booted into ubuntu. I defintely remember seeing a prompt before to choose what to do, this time it went straight into desktop mode.
[04:25] <brant> beer =)
[04:25] <harry> avis: i dont have to install anything ???
[04:25] <harfooz> Mixx, I did uname -a to get the current version of my kernel, and then searched for and installed the proper linux-restricted-modules with that associated number. Thanks Mixx and nickrud!
[04:25] <avis> yes harry, apt-get install banshee
[04:25] <mcrandello> I thought gnome would have something like that built in already
[04:25] <harfooz> I appreciate you all helping me troubleshoot!
[04:25] <mcrandello> like a simple pref that turns them all on or off
[04:26] <jighead> Etheri, why don't you want to use the gui? using the preferences panel or gnconf-editor would be the easiest way
[04:26] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried iwconfig eth1 essid any
[04:26] <harfooz> have a good one everyone.
[04:26] <nickrud> harfooz, np, the wiki is usually fixed pretty fast these days when wrong
[04:26] <MilesAttacca> So QtParted is included in the desktop version of the Dapper Drake ISO?
[04:26] <harfooz> later gators ;-)
[04:26] <Mixx> harfooz - that's good to know, ty&gl
[04:26] <puff> So if I boot it wihtout the CD, it boots into the existing debian. If I boot it wiht the CD, it boots straight into ubuntu-from-Cd mode.
[04:26] <puff> how do I get it to install?
[04:26] <teckfatt> just wonder is there anyone out there has tried not to shutdown or restart ur own ubuntu PC for more then a month?
[04:26] <Etheri> jighead: current screensaver is called BioF or something, it hard crashes my system whenever it loads up
[04:27] <Krhis> teckfatt, yep. I have.
[04:27] <Etheri> jighead: i.e. when it loads it in that little window in the gui
[04:27] <mcrandello> steev, the joys of having a slow computer :) anyway between that and having to manually resize my wine icons to match the desktop ones I'm about to switch over to k
[04:27] <teckfatt> Krhis: how was after a month? still running smooth?
[04:27] <Krhis> Yes, no problems at all.
[04:27] <firefly> Hey..
[04:27] <patrick_> guys, when I type in fglrxinfo I get the infamous mesa feedback. anyone know any quick ways of fixing this?
[04:28] <Krhis> teckfatt, why do you ask. Plaining on doing somthing?
[04:28] <puff> dapper is the current ubuntu, right?
[04:28] <mcrandello> puff, yes
[04:28] <patrick_> puff:yes
[04:28] <Krhis> puff, yes.
[04:28] <patrick_> lol
[04:28] <Krhis> ... hehe
[04:28] <Etheri> unless you have any better ideas jighead, I'll just work out how to put killall gnome-screensaver in a startup process
[04:28] <spikeb> puff: yes
[04:28] <firefly> Does anyone know how to set flash in firefox to use alsa?
[04:28] <Etheri> thanks all
[04:28] <patrick_> anyone know the answer to my issue?
[04:28] <TigerWolf> whats the ubuntu alternative for startup in windows?
[04:28] <teckfatt> Krhis: yeah....the dapper run so stable on my laptop, neve get hang be4
[04:28] <firefly> It's the only app I've tried that sound isn't mixed (and thus cant play)
[04:28] <wastrel> firefly:  it's on the restrictedformats wiki page
[04:28] <patrick_> Oi! lol
[04:29] <firefly> wastrel: got a link? :)
[04:29] <patrick_> anyone know the answer to my ATI driver issue?
[04:29] <patrick_> or care to asnwer..
[04:29] <wastrel> !restricted
[04:29] <patrick_> answer*
[04:29] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:29] <cjones> how do you end a prossess in ubuntu?
[04:29] <MilesAttacca> ^ QtParted is on the Dapper Drake desktop ISO, yes?
[04:29] <puff> Okay,  so somebody want to point me at the canonical tutorial URL?
[04:29] <Krhis> teckfatt, cool. But I still keep Debian on my server.... about 6 months of uptime now,
[04:29] <jighead> Etheri, take a look at ~/.gconfd/saved_state
[04:29] <firefly> thanks wastrel :-D
[04:29] <nickrud> cjones, in a terminal, pkill <processname>
[04:29] <avis> MilesAttacca, i heard of a non-destructive partition manager but dont quote me on this called gparted.
[04:29] <mcrandello> patrick_, you have to sacrifice a small goat BEFORE installing xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:29] <jighead> Etheri, and see if there is a line in there about the screensaver that you can delete
[04:29] <Krhis> teckfatt, helps having a UPS unit.
[04:30] <patrick_> mcrandello, define sacrifice.
[04:30] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried iwconfig eth1 essid any
[04:30] <avis> patrick_, slaughter.
[04:30] <chris_> was a new kernel just released for dapper?
[04:30] <MilesAttacca> I know QtParted is included on the Knoppix live CD, for one. I'll check around, otherwise I'll probably use good ol' FDISK.
[04:30] <nickrud> Chri[s] , yes
[04:30] <mcrandello> patrick_, you'll need candles, a robe and a very sharp knife
[04:30] <patrick_> avis, I doubt he means the dictionary definition
[04:30] <patrick_> I stand corrected...
[04:30] <patrick_> lol
[04:30] <chris_> it was released today?
[04:30] <avis> not literally.
[04:31] <teckfatt> Krhis: i dont have UPS unit...i using acer laptop
[04:31] <mardi> hi, i show 61 updates here, is that real?
[04:31] <mcrandello> I actually wound up installing the ATI provided packages and compiling te kernel  module to get it to work
[04:31] <bimberi> chris_: yes
[04:31] <Mixx> mardi - real for me
[04:31] <chris_> ok.. yeah mardi... I just updated mine
[04:31] <Krhis> teckfatt, built in ups unit! :P
[04:31] <chris_> thanks
[04:31] <patrick_> well
[04:31] <Mixx> mardi - i have 64
[04:31] <MilesAttacca> Is there a definitive list of all the apps included on the desktop CD?
[04:31] <patrick_> I mean, I've gotten this ti work before
[04:31] <teckfatt> Krhis: ic
[04:31] <mardi> Mixx, chris_ : ok, thanks :)
[04:31] <Kitsune818> Oh man, thanks to whoever suggested banshee to harry.. I was looking for the same thing and banshee is working for me
[04:31] <patrick_> but, its showing the mesa issue
[04:31] <patrick_> and I forgot to remove it
[04:31] <patrick_> er
[04:31] <patrick_> I forgot how to remove it
[04:32] <patrick_> I removed fglrx from the linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:32] <patrick_> but apparently there is more to it
[04:32] <patrick_> then that.
[04:32] <earthen> anyone know how to make spell check work in openoffice 64bit
[04:32] <Etheri> jighead: I can't find any references to gnome-screensaver or just screensaver in there
[04:32] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried "iwconfig eth1 essid any
[04:32] <avis> i think its xscreensaver
[04:32] <mcrandello> I'm assuming this didn't work: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283
[04:33] <patrick_> can anyone help me so I can be on my way?
[04:33] <Krhis> Etheri, works here.
[04:33] <raiffhigor> who knows how to modify MAC Address in initialization of Ubuntu?!?!?!?
[04:33] <nickrud> gnome-screensaver is the one ubuntu installs by default
[04:33] <puff> Okay, hit f1 on reboot and this time I got the menu.
[04:33] <raiffhigor> i know how to change the MAC
[04:33] <chris_> so once has installed the latest kernel... is there a way to remove the previous one?
[04:34] <jonuk> milhous: the full error is "Buffer I/O error on device dm-5, logical block 6326XXX"  (XXX are numbers that it scrolls through)
[04:34] <nickrud> chris_,  _after_ reboot, you can use synaptic to remove it
[04:34] <Kitsune818> speaking of kernel.. should I bother upgrading from the one that comes with dapper?
[04:34] <avis> chris_, synaptic
[04:34] <jonuk> Anyone know what this error is? "Buffer I/O error on device dm-5, logical block 6326XXX"  (XXX are numbers that it scrolls through)
[04:34] <raiffhigor> but i don't know wich file i have to modify for that in initialization the MAC address can be changed
[04:34] <chris_> thanks  guys
[04:34] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried "iwconfig eth1 essid any" but got nothing.
[04:35] <mcrandello> I think in my case it was a combination of doing the symlink song and dance from that forums link and then building ubuntu packages from ATI, installing build essentials then the fglrx package I built, the goat, THEN rebuilding the kernel module after unzipping the tgz that was in /lib/modules
[04:35] <mcrandello> of course after I did all that and got 3d working it froze my usb subsystem, making the whole thing moot
[04:35] <EvanCarroll> I'm having some major issues with my ethernet driver, skge, after i ran dist-upgrade today and got the security patches
[04:35] <jonuk> bad question, i know, but how do i go about completely uninstalling Ubuntu and starting over from scratch?  I've had too many problems and need to start clean
[04:35] <spikeb> ooh new kernel
[04:36] <spikeb> wonder if this is the new default on ppc heh
[04:36] <spikeb> jonuk: just start the installer and format
[04:36] <mcrandello> jonuk, rerun the install CD and format the partition it's on
[04:36] <MilesAttacca> avis: GParted does apparently exist. I'm checking a list I found to see if that or QtParted is included.
[04:36] <EvanCarroll> i would say whatever bug this is, is critical, I keep losing my ip, have to ifdown and ifup
[04:36] <jonuk> I have Windows on a 40GB slave hard drive, and Ubuntu on a master drive
[04:36] <hareem> hi i need some help installing my webcam
[04:36] <hareem> can some one help me please
[04:36] <nickrud> jonuk, just install right over it
[04:36] <patrick_> mcrandello, I'm trying the directions in that link right now, there was an alternative method that I forgot, thanks.
[04:36] <patrick_> brb
[04:36] <mcrandello> patrick_, good luck with it, don't forget the goat
[04:36] <avis> MilesAttacca, people were praising gparted.  i've only used qtparted.  works fine for me.
[04:37] <jonuk> nickrud, mcrandello, spikeb:  makes sense, I'll do that.  Thank you!
[04:37] <hareem> i need to add my logitech quick cam zoom to kapote software. what should i do
[04:37] <avis> though i dont recall being able to resize partitions in qtparted only deleting and creating them again.
[04:37] <mcrandello> jonuk, and if you plan on reinstalling a lot maybe make a separate partition for /home
[04:37] <mcrandello> it's a good idea to do that anyway
[04:37] <SurfnKid> !mountwindows
[04:37] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:37] <hareem> need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <Toma-> what program controls how removable drives are mounted? my m-robe is getting mounted at read-only and i need to change it...
[04:37] <jonuk> mcrandello:  i have a separte home partition...but I don't have anything on it, so its fine if i wipe clean
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <LoRez> Warning: `hareem' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <hareem>  need to install logitech quickcam zoom onto ubuntu
[04:37] <Toma-> !ops
[04:37] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:38] <hareem> spamming
[04:38] <Toma-> cya
[04:38] <hareem> what im trying to get some help
[04:38] <jorvis_> has anyone installed Vista???  I'm trying to recover grub and no matter what I do it still boots straight into Windows.
[04:38] <teckfatt> Krhis: can i know how u gain the knowledge on server? i'm interest setup a server, any tips or book, article, or web, that can guide me? thank you
[04:38] <SurfnKid> !gdm
[04:38] <ubotu> SurfnKid: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:38] <Toma-> hareem: if its supported by spca drivers, itll work
[04:39] <SurfnKid> mm
[04:39] <SurfnKid> how can i change my gdm from Kde to Gnome
[04:39] <Healot> question, did you successfully/actually reinstall grub? jorvis_
[04:39] <SurfnKid> whast the command
[04:39] <Krhis> teckfatt, I can't really suggest anything. I learned everything on my desktop and kept everything a minimum on my server.
[04:39] <jorvis_> Healot: yes, and it reported success
[04:39] <nickrud> SurfnKid, sudo update-alternatives --config kdm
[04:39] <MilesAttacca> I'm gonna go off. See you guys, thanks.
[04:39] <patrick__> thanks, it worked :D
[04:39] <Krhis> teckfatt, Dapper does offer a LAMP install. Saves time.
[04:39] <calisee> My wireless connected to my one network when i upgraded firmware, now I switched networks and it isn't connecting.  How can I fix this?  I tried "iwconfig eth1 essid any" but got nothing.
[04:39] <EvanCarroll> dear god this fucking blows.
[04:39] <SurfnKid> nickrud: ok cool, hey is it possible to run 2 gdms at the same time, I think i did earlier
[04:39] <Toma-> hareem: see this page, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html and hopefully it ill work. Also, i didnt know kopete had webcam functions?
[04:40] <SurfnKid> EvanCarroll: whoa watch the mouthy mouthy
[04:40] <teckfatt> Krhis: ic...thank you i will have a look on LAMP
[04:40] <Healot> jorvis_: on what? MBR? some other partition?
[04:40] <Krhis> teckfatt, LAMP: Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP.
[04:40] <nickrud> SurfnKid, I sometimes do the Quit->switch user to log into X
[04:40] <EvanCarroll> I just turned on fall back eth card
[04:40] <Toma-> what program controls how removable drives are mounted? my m-robe is getting mounted at read-only and i need to change it...
[04:40] <teckfatt> Krhis: thanks
[04:40] <Krhis> Anytime.
[04:40] <nickrud> SurfnKid, another X, the old one is still on clt-alt-f7
[04:40] <Toaster`> I'm having a CUPS issue.  I can print remotely via a winXP laptop, but when I print to it from another linux box running CUPS, the job is loaded, and then canceled right away. I think it's a permissions issue, but I'm not sure.  any suggestions?
[04:40] <Etheri> ok thanks for the suggestions jighead, khris, brent for the suggestions
[04:41] <SurfnKid> calisee: specify the exact network, replace 'any' with the essid name i.e.  linksysy
[04:41] <Etheri> I've just made a script to killall gnome-screensaver at startup, and using gnome-power-preferences to turn the screen off
[04:41] <Healot> LAME = Lame ain't MP3 encoder i like the recursive acronyms
[04:41] <patrick__> how would one succesallsfully install the window manager wmaker/
[04:41] <patrick__> ?
[04:41] <patrick__> successfully*
[04:41] <calisee> SurfnKid, I tried that also didn't seem to help.
[04:41] <jighead> Etheri, when i grep my entire home directory for screensaver, the only setting stuff that comes up is in that file in .gconfd
[04:41] <mcrandello> Etheri, install xscreensaver, then rename /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver to /usr/bin/gnome-screensave-butts
[04:41] <Krhis> teckfatt, it surprises alot of people that I use Linux as a desktop.... but that's not an uncommon thing in #ubuntu. ^^
[04:41] <nickrud> patrick__, install wmaker (it's in universe)
[04:41] <SurfnKid> nickrud: like for instance yeah it was on. but ran gdm from the ctl alt f1 and gave me the gnome login, ctl-alt-f7 kept switching between them. is that cool tho
[04:42] <patrick__> how would I make it replace my default window manager?
[04:42] <Krhis> Healot, my fav are Wine and RPM.
[04:42] <nickrud> SurfnKid, between, yah, interesting.
[04:42] <SurfnKid> nickrud: oh ok so you can cool
[04:42] <Krhis> Healot, not to forget GNU.
[04:42] <mcrandello> patrick__, should be able to select it from gdm when you login
[04:42] <calisee> SurfnKid, once I type the iwconfig command should the interface update instantly?
[04:42] <nickrud> SurfnKid, no, I thought you said you had ;)
[04:42] <jorvis__> Healot: I followed the instructions here mostly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%29
[04:42] <firefly> how do i know which /dev/dsp wrapper to use?
[04:43] <firefly> where can i check?
[04:43] <jighead> patrick__, use the session menu in gdm to choose wmaker
[04:43] <patrick__> k, thanks
[04:43] <Kitsune818> Anyone know why banshee would hang up on syncing an ipod saying "waiting for transcoder".. Do I need to install something else?
[04:43] <teckfatt> Krhis: me too...most of my friend ask me what i using it look so different...
[04:43] <Toaster`> Any suggestions to my CUPS question above?
[04:43] <Cntryboy> I just installed vlc and put in a disc, but totem keeps popping up saying can't read url handler or something.. how do I make vlc he default video player?
[04:44] <Healot> jorvis_: when you boot, did you see Grub? or NTloader
[04:44] <SurfnKid> nickrud:  yeah I could switch between Kde and Gnome just pressing clt-alt-f7 over and over. anyway my real purpose was to switch the xserver to the other one instead of kde ( dont know what its called ) but in your experiencce whats better or lighter on the system
[04:44] <mcrandello> Cntryboy, I wound up right-clicking and using the "open with" option thing
[04:45] <calisee> SurfnKid, once I type the iwconfig command should the interface update instantly?
[04:45] <firefly> does anyone know how to find out what /dev/dsp wrapper my other applications are using so i can set firefox flash to use the same?
[04:45] <SurfnKid> calisee: run sudo iwconfig <card> essid <ssid-name>
[04:45] <jorvis__> Healot: black screen, bios info, then Vista's graphical loading
[04:45] <Krhis> teckfatt, everyone thinks "MSDOS" when they think Linux. I say "Mouse, icons, menus.... What do you mean it looks like MSDOS?"
[04:45] <Cntryboy> you mean with in vlc go to file and open disc?
[04:45] <mcrandello> there's a "preferred applications" thing in gnome-control-center that you can probably make a permanent change in
[04:45] <Etheri> jighead: doesn't show up anything for me, my system is dying as is so I'm not too fussed
[04:46] <mcrandello> wait nope that doesn't work
[04:46] <Etheri> mcrandello: brutal but seemingly effective removal of gnome-screensaver, thanks
[04:46] <SurfnKid> calisee: PM me
[04:46] <mardi> the updated worked! thanks ubuntu!
[04:46] <jighead> Etheri, if the killall script gets you going, then well done on the workaround
[04:46] <mcrandello> Etheri, :) I also changed the settings shortcut to go to xscreensaver-settings I think it was called
[04:46] <jorvis__> Healot: the grub commands are just "boot" then "setup" right?   setup reported success
[04:47] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to set vlc default and not totem when  disc is inserted?
[04:47] <nickrud> SurfnKid, not a true clue there
[04:48] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[04:48] <wubrgamer> major issues
[04:48] <teckfatt> Krhis: haha...yeah......i have completed setup dapper desktop on PC so now try not to restart it for a month and see what happen
[04:48] <Kitsune818> damn it damn it damn it, I swear Apple designed the ipod to resist working with linux.
[04:48] <teckfatt> Krhis: and i just use it everyday like normal
[04:48] <nickrud> Cntryboy, system-prefs-removable media
[04:48] <mister_roboto> kitsune818: which ipod do you have? just curious
[04:48] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, how can I reload GRUB ?  My machine has two partitions, to dual boot windows / linux.  I'm in the middle of installing vista beta, and it appears that windows loads it's own boot loader over the top of GRUB !!!
[04:48] <RemyLaptop> any ideas ?
[04:48] <Krhis> teckfatt, the only time you need to do a reboot are for kernal upgrades.... but even then it's not a full powerdown.
[04:48] <Kitsune818> g4 20gb
[04:49] <jorvis__> mister_roboto: I have the 60gb video one, and I can't get anything to work with it
[04:49] <jorvis__> RemyLaptop: I'm doing the same thing right now
[04:49] <SurfnKid> nickrud: oh no worries mate, not even gonna screw with it! So that command should work to let me change gdms right
[04:49] <Cntryboy> nickrud do you know where vlc is installed where I can direct the browse to it?
[04:49] <Kitsune818> I can see it on /media/ipod but nothing will sync the darn thing
[04:49] <mister_roboto> jorvis__: have you tried the latest gnupod? i used to use that a long time ago with the nano and it worked.
[04:49] <nickrud> Cntryboy, not positive but most likely /usr/bin/vlc
[04:49] <mcrandello> Cntryboy, try /usr/bin, everything I have winds up there
[04:49] <teckfatt> Krhis: yes....and thank you one more time, i will have a look on LAMP
[04:50] <Cntryboy> k tyx
[04:50] <Cntryboy> tyx
[04:50] <Cntryboy> grr
[04:50] <mcrandello> also "which vlc" or whatever app you have in the path
[04:50] <Cntryboy> thx
[04:50] <Krhis> teckfatt, I'm glad I could help you. Good luck.
[04:50] <RemyLaptop> !grub
[04:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:50] <jorvis__> RemyLaptop: vista seems to be special here
[04:51] <Cntryboy> actually gang it needs a commands to open vlc not a directory
[04:51] <Krhis> teckfatt, also check out 'man uptime'.
[04:51] <jorvis__> I've followed those procedures and nothing happens
[04:51] <Cntryboy> example for totem is totem %m
[04:51] <nickrud> SurfnKid, I do the second gdm thing to log onto other machines on the network. For a new X on my own machine, I usually just startx -- :1
[04:51] <Krhis> See if you can bet your own record. :)
[04:51] <Mixx> !nvidia
[04:51] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:51] <miguel> i'm having problem, i was trying to upgrade dist. and it said that need permition to acces the servers
[04:51] <humbraro> !kapote
[04:51] <ubotu> humbraro: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:52] <mcrandello> miguel, as root or using sudo?
[04:52] <Krhis> miguel, what is the complete error?
[04:52] <miguel> both
[04:52] <Kitsune818> Would the ubuntu forums be the optimal place to post about my iPod problem, or is there somewhere more relevant?
[04:52] <CaptainMorgan> possible to get forward/backward buttons working on a thinkpad?
[04:52] <Cntryboy> nickrud do u know the command to run vlc from where you said to go
[04:53] <nickrud> Cntryboy, that should be the command
[04:53] <jighead> Kitsune818, the forums are very active, it won't hurt to try
[04:53] <nickrud> Cntryboy, vlc %m or /usr/bin/vlc %m I would think
[04:53] <Cntryboy> k thx
[04:54] <wastrel> hah
[04:54] <jorvis__> RemyLaptop: I may have it ....
[04:54] <Kitsune818> Ok, thanks jighead
[04:54] <wastrel> you actually install things to help ppl
[04:54] <wastrel> i generally don't ;] 
[04:54] <mcrandello> vlc is the only one I don't consider useless
[04:54] <Cntryboy> vlc is bugging and sluggish and hell then dont respond
[04:54] <nickrud> now and then, more to keep egg of my face than anything
[04:54] <Cntryboy> buggy rather
[04:54] <amittp> Hi, are there any instruction to install 686-smp kernel for dapper?
[04:54] <mcrandello> it is a little buggy but it plays damn near anything
[04:55] <jorvis__> RemyLaptop: um.  it no longer just boots into windows, but I just get a grub terminal
[04:55] <Krhis> I have Xine, Mplayer, and VLC installed at the same time.... on reason really.
[04:55] <Cntryboy> if I get codecs for totem
[04:55] <jorvis__> crap
[04:55] <Cntryboy> would it play movies better?
[04:55] <mcrandello> it might
[04:55] <nickrud> Cntryboy, check out the alternate media players and windows codecs on !restricted for some decent movie playing info
[04:56] <nickrud> !restricte
[04:56] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[04:56] <nickrud> !restricted
[04:56] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:56] <Cntryboy> k
[04:56] <miguel> krhis, this is the complete error: "Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 401 Authorization Required"
[04:56] <Ademan> anyone here have steam working with wine?
[04:56] <jorvis__> Healot: now when I reboot I'm getting a grub> menu ... how do I restore my menu?
[04:57] <nickrud> oh, hoary-backports, evil stuff if i remember right
[04:58] <Cntryboy> thoughts commands didn't work btw to make vlc default video player when disc iwas inserted nickrud
[04:58] <Krhis> miguel, what lines did you add to your sources.lst?
[04:58] <Cntryboy> thoughs
[04:58] <miguel> none
[04:58] <Krhis> Odd.
[04:59] <jorvis__> anyone?  when I reboot now I just get a grub> shell.  How do I boot into anything?  What happened to my normal boot menu?
[04:59] <calisee> SurfnKid: Internet worked as soon as I started up hahaha, all that and it worked on its own.
[04:59] <Kitsune818> Ahh.. this might have something to do with it.. in banshee's preferences it says "no ipod compatible transcoders available"
[04:59] <miguel> i'm not using a terminal
[04:59] <Krhis> I'm on a 64bit mechine, don't see why your computer is trying to connect to backports.
[04:59] <SurfnKid> calisee: for real
[04:59] <Kitsune818> I have lame installed.. what else might it need?
[04:59] <n0dl> how would i make a USBdisk writable?
[04:59] <SurfnKid> calisee: awesome, keep those commands handy i use them when i do changes between systems n stuff, Glad it worked for ya!
[04:59] <n0dl> its already mounted but i cant write to it
[04:59] <JohnsonE> are there any good torrent apps out that ARE NOT azureus?
[05:00] <wastrel> see this is why i'm looking for a non-ipod mp3 player
[05:00] <calisee> SurfnKid: Yeah, thanks.  If you ever want to upgrade your kernel let me know ;)
[05:00] <oknewbie> hello all
[05:00] <Cntryboy> nickrud did ya hear me
[05:00] <SurfnKid> calisee: definitely ill need instructions, :)
[05:00] <jorvis__> in grub when you say root(hd0,1) that should point to my boot partition, right?
[05:00] <Krhis> Hello oknewbie.
[05:01] <jorvis__>  /boot, or should that point to /
[05:01] <nickrud> Cntryboy, just sat back down, a sec
[05:01] <oknewbie> I have forgotten the command to set my server name to www.whatever.com
[05:01] <miguel> krhis, do you have any idea about it?
[05:01] <SurfnKid> calisee: i have some idea but help might come handy
[05:01] <nickrud> oknewbie, now I gotta find a dvd
[05:01] <SurfnKid> calisee: are you on irc from that box?
[05:01] <oknewbie> dvd ?
[05:02] <Krhis> miguel, I'm not to sure. Is this a freash install?
[05:02] <Krhis> too*
[05:02] <miguel> why a password is needed to acces a server?
[05:02] <Cntryboy> does vlc have a brightness option?
[05:02] <calisee> SurfnKid: Yeah, doing all this on my laptop, I have dual boot set up cause some of my classes require windows apps
[05:02] <Cntryboy> video is darker than what I like to watch them at
[05:02] <miguel> what do mean by freash?
[05:02] <Krhis> miguel, backports is not even listed on my mechine. It dosn't look like it should be on yours.
[05:03] <Snowfairy> I'm still in search, but beginning to think this is just something that does not exist in Linux.   Is there a tool that can take just a screenshot of the desktop?  (IE: Wallpaper, panel, icons) and ignore the windows on top?
[05:03] <Krhis> miguel, did you just install Ubuntu?
[05:03] <Snowfairy> It's probably the only thing I could do in windows, that I can't seem to accomplish in Ubuntu.
[05:03] <miguel> no have made some updates
[05:03] <Krhis> fresh* Sorry, late night.
[05:03] <Khaaaaan> sup dawgs!!!
[05:03] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know if vlc has a equalizer or something to brighten up movies?
[05:03] <nickrud> Cntryboy, I put in /usr/bin/vlc %m, worked like a charm
[05:03] <jorvis__> Snowfairy: try using gimp
[05:03] <Cntryboy> did with dvd but didn't with vcd but thats okay nickrud, im trying to get it brighter now
[05:04] <miguel> but when i tried to update my dist. i had the error
[05:04] <Krhis> miguel, type "cat /etc/apt/sources.lst" and paste your output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:04] <SurfnKid> calisee: i got the same setup
[05:04] <calisee> Krhis: if you want to take a shot of your desktop without anything on it, shouldn't you have the desktop background image already?
[05:05] <Snowfairy> jorvis__, the problem isn't taking a screenshot, have all multiple ways of doing that (import, xwd, ksnapshot, printscreen).  the problem is taking a screenshot of -just- the desktop.  Even if I have X-chat open, it would ignore X-chat in the screenshot, and show just the rendered desktop.  This was possible in windows.
[05:05] <Krhis> calisee, what are you talking about? Screen capture?
[05:05] <nickrud> vlc actually looks good now, it might stay on my machine this time
[05:05] <Snowfairy> In Ubuntu, even if I do -window root it still captures everything rendered on screen, not just the root display.
[05:05] <Cntryboy> well does it have an option to brighten up the movies nickrud?
[05:05] <calisee> Krhis: Let me see if I understand you correctly.  You want to take a screen shot of your desktop with no windows on top, no task bar, etc
[05:05] <Krhis> calisee, I'm not asking for any help.
[05:05] <jorvis__> Snowfairy: I understand what you mean, and I think it's an option in the gimp.
[05:05] <Snowfairy> it's me :P
[05:05] <riddlebox> how would I get vncserver to start at boot?
[05:06] <nickrud> Cntryboy, settings - extented gui
[05:06] <Snowfairy> Jorvis__ I'll take a quick look, didn't thing GImp took shots of anything itself.
[05:06] <Cntryboy> okaay thx bro
[05:06] <Healot> whereis vlc > Cntryboy
[05:06] <internat> whereis vlc
[05:06] <internat> ?
[05:07] <Krhis> calisee?
[05:07] <oknewbie> is there an ubuntu server room?
[05:07] <calisee> Krhis: ?
[05:07] <Krhis> calisee, what are you talking about? I'm not asking anyone for help.
[05:07] <Snowfairy> Jorvis, found it, but it's just another tool to take a snapshot, doesn't specifically grab only the desktop.  Like I said, the trick is being able to have things open, but still capture only the root window (gnome-panel, desktop backgrounds, and icons) hell, even just desktop background and icons would be good (ignoring gnome-panel)
[05:07] <calisee> Krhis: Oh ok sorry
[05:08] <Krhis> calisee, it's ok.
[05:08] <Krhis> I'm helping actually. ^^
[05:08] <chakra85> hi
[05:08] <SurfnKidAFK> nickrud: where can i find the file to see the current watchamacall it manager kde or gde?
[05:08] <Krhis> Hello chakra85.
[05:09] <miguel> done, what now?
[05:09] <calisee> is anyone running 2.6.16-20?
[05:09] <nickrud> SurfnKidAFK, that question does not parse ;)
[05:09] <chakra85> i have a text file with a list of files and folders. is there any bash command that I can run to delete all the files on the list
[05:09] <CaptainMorgan> anyone got a xmodmap example
[05:09] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[05:09] <chakra85> well, everything on the list
[05:09] <SurfnKid> hehe
[05:09] <miguel> krhis, done what now?
[05:09] <Krhis> Installing 2.6.15-25 now.
[05:09] <mister_roboto> chakra85: what about "rm -rf `cat <file`"
[05:09] <Krhis> miguel, what's the link?
[05:10] <mcrandello> chakra85, take out the carriage returns so they are separated only by a space
[05:10] <SurfnKid> nickrud: when i configured kde i got this blue screen config to chose which manager i could chose (with 2 options)  and it did that automatically with the sudo apt-get install process, im wondering how to get back to that
[05:10] <mcrandello> chakra85, then add #!/bin/bash at the top
[05:10] <CaptainMorgan> I used xev to make sure buttons are actually recognized and they're responding to xev.... .
[05:10] <chakra85> mister-roboto, mcrandello: do i have to do that before i run "rm -rf 'cat <file>'"?
[05:10] <nickrud> SurfnKid, sudo update-alternatives --config gdm
[05:10] <internat> u could use xargs
[05:10] <mcrandello> chakra85, and put "rm" in front of them
[05:10] <mcrandello> then chmod 755 it and run it
[05:10] <mister_roboto> chakra85: those are back-tics, not apostrophe   `  not '
[05:11] <wastrel> mister_roboto:  is the < strictly necessary there :] 
[05:11] <SurfnKid> nickrud: no alternatives for kdm
[05:11] <internat> cat file | xargs -l rm -rf  something close to tha
[05:11] <wastrel> $() instead of ``
[05:11] <SurfnKid> nickrud: i mean gdm
[05:11] <mister_roboto> wastrel: just a habit to set off non-literal text
[05:11] <mister_roboto> wastrel: most people find it easy to read :)
[05:11] <chakra85> mcrandello, mister_roboto: do i need to use both of your suggestions together?
[05:11] <mcrandello> chakra85, I'd use mister roboto's method
[05:11] <nickrud> SurfnKid, does dpkg -i kdm (the output) have ii as the first two characters?
[05:11] <mcrandello> it seems easier.
[05:12] <wastrel> mister_roboto:  ah i assumed you meant the redirect operator.
[05:12] <nickrud> SurfnKid, i mean dpkg -l kdm
[05:12] <Krhis> miguel, what's the link?
[05:12] <chakra85> mcrandello, mister_roboto: btw, mcrandello's assumption about the file being carriage-return delimited rather than space delimited was right
[05:12] <SurfnKid> ah, had an error heh
[05:12] <chakra85> mcrandello, mister_roboto: i'm not sure if that changes anything with that bash command
[05:12] <mcrandello> I was suggesting making a bash script out of the file list, which might be usefull if you frequently have to remove those specific files but is over kill for a once-through
[05:12] <miguel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15792
[05:12] <Krhis> ok
[05:13] <SurfnKid> yes nickrud
[05:13] <CaptainMorgan> how do i configure xmodmap?? simple make the file?
[05:13] <CaptainMorgan> or?
[05:13] <CaptainMorgan> simply
[05:13] <nickrud> SurfnKid, brb
[05:13] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:13] <mister_roboto> chakra85: my way works fine
[05:14] <Krhis> miguel, looks like somthing/someone has modified the list.
[05:14] <mister_roboto> chakra85:  just make sure you don't have any file names like "/" in there!
[05:14] <miguel> what can i do?
[05:14] <earthen> anyone know how to get Spellcheck working in openoffice
[05:14] <err0rr> does WPA work in ubuntu by default ?
[05:14] <chakra85> mister_roboto: haha, good call.. i'll check
[05:14] <mister_roboto> chakra85: it's kind of dangerous unless you're sure about what's in that file  :)
[05:15] <chakra85> mister_roboto: it's a list of files given to my by my gallery2 installation, telling me what files gallery doesn't need anymore
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/X11/xmodmap.html#usage says about how to use it.. but I don't have it... so how do I get i?
[05:15] <Krhis> miguel, looks like you'll need to # out the last fue lines.
[05:15] <CaptainMorgan> earthen, tools?
[05:15] <chakra85> mister_roboto: in the terminal, i typed: sudo rm -rf `cat /home/<usr>/Desktop/todel`
[05:16] <chakra85> mister_roboto: and i got back: bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Argument list too long
[05:16] <miguel> how can i do that?
[05:16] <teckfatt> Krhis: do u know what type or kind or name of this type of networking? a server network with more then one workstation, and the user can log in to different workstation...university usually use this type of service..
[05:16] <Krhis> miguel, ok.... let me paste some stuff for you. One sec.
[05:16] <miguel> ok
[05:16] <mister_roboto> chakra85: ok, it's big... do this instead...
[05:16] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, what you mean tools
[05:16] <mister_roboto> cat <file> | xargs rm -rf
[05:16] <nickrud> SurfnKid, brain freeze, it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (I haven't had any kde stuff for a bit)
[05:16] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: with app are you running?
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> which
[05:17] <Krhis> teckfatt, I'm thinking "remote something something."
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: database? word processor?
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> presentation
[05:17] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[05:17] <Krhis> Hehe sorry teckfatt. ^^
[05:17] <earthen> I'm running openoffice clac
[05:17] <harry> does dapper have a default print job viewer???
[05:17] <rob138> is there a way to tell what version of directx wine is using?
[05:17] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, the spread sheet
[05:17] <ubuntu> quien habla espaok?
[05:17] <ubuntu> quien habla espaok?
[05:17] <mister_roboto> chakra85: cat <file> | xargs rm -rf
[05:17] <teckfatt> Krhis: is ok ^^
[05:18] <cyphase> :P
[05:18] <nickrud> harry, a printer will appear on your top menu bar when you have printjobs running/pending, click it
[05:18] <Kitsune818> Well, I got banshee to see faac and allow for aac transcoding.. no mp3 though :/
[05:18] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: spellcheck? it's in the menu bar - under Tools or hit F7
[05:18] <nathanael> Has anyone here been able to duplicate Gentoo's bash color scheme? I love ubuntu, but miss the Gentoo colors...
[05:18] <nickrud> !es
[05:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:18] <nathanael> IS there a way to copy just that?
[05:18] <chakra85> mister_robot: ok, just to make sure. all of the paths are relative so if I cd into my gallery directory and run this, it'll make sense right?
[05:18] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, but it doesn't work in anything
[05:19] <rob138> can anyone help me figure out hwo to get half life 2 working in wine?
[05:19] <mister_roboto> chakra85: yes, that's right.
[05:19] <Krhis> miguel, first type this: "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.lst /etc/apt/sources.lst.bak"
[05:19] <harry> nickrud: do you know some application thats available for ubuntu, that converts video formats like converting .avi to .mp4
[05:19] <thinkofi> ?
[05:19] <mister_roboto> chakra85: the "xargs" will process the list 1 at a time so you don't blow the line length
[05:19] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, I know how to start the spell check it's just that it's not picking up any miss spelled words
[05:19] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: mine works by default - you try spellcheck in word processor or database? see if it's working there
[05:19] <CaptainMorgan> earthen whoa!
[05:19] <nickrud> harry, I've heard vague tales of them, but since I don't do video editing ...
[05:19] <mister_roboto> chakra85: or, actually, some number at a time without blowing the length
[05:19] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, it's not working in anything
[05:20] <CaptainMorgan> earthen:  sounds like you may need to restart or empty the dictionary?
[05:20] <chakra85> mister_roboto: ok i'll try it again... thanks for helping me this far
[05:20] <nathanael> I ran a ls --color=auto, but the colors are different
[05:20] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, reboot doesn't solve it
[05:20] <XVampireX> hey
[05:20] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, tried that
[05:20] <XVampireX> I went into terminal mode, I heard about how to do it, how do I go back?
[05:20] <rob138> how do i remove a kernel from grub?
[05:21] <mcrandello> ctrl-alt-f7
[05:21] <CaptainMorgan> earthen maybe a reinstall of the oo suite - I didn't mean reboot of the app - reconfig of the dictionary
[05:21] <mcrandello> XVampireX, ^^
[05:21] <harry> does anyone know some application video format converter? thats available for ubuntu
[05:21] <XVampireX> thanks :)
[05:21] <nickrud> nathanael, for gnome-terminal you can select edit->current profile and change the colors there
[05:21] <nathanael> rob138 "nano /boot/grub/meu.lst"
[05:21] <miguel> ERROR: cp: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre /etc/apt/sources.lst: No existe el fichero o el directorio (file or directory found)
[05:21] <XVampireX> Wow, that's actually pretty nice
[05:21] <nathanael> *menu.lst
[05:21] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, how do I reconfigure the dictionary
[05:21] <XVampireX> I can be working on programs in full screen without having people bothering me on gaim
[05:22] <chiefb> harry, mencoder?
[05:22] <nickrud> miguel, /etc/apt/sources.list not .lst
[05:22] <harry> chiefb: thats the name of the application???
[05:22] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, or witch modules to reinstall
[05:22] <chakra85> mister_roboto: ok, so this is my bash command line when i run it:          <usr>@ubuntu:/usr/share/gallery2$ sudo cat /home/<usr>/Desktop/todel | xargs rm -rf
[05:22] <SurfnKid> how can you leave a message on irc, like a memo ( sorry i dont know who to ask )
[05:22] <chiefb> harry, yeah
[05:22] <milhous> hmm, i'm thinking i should ubuntu 32-bit rather than 64-bit because of the headaches of web plugins and stuff, anyone agree with me?
[05:22] <milhous> ^install.
[05:23] <spikeb> milhous: i do
[05:23] <harry> chiefb: have you tried it working on your system??
[05:23] <Krhis> ty nickrud.
[05:23] <mister_roboto> chakra85: yes? and?
[05:23] <chiefb> harry, yeah. what format are you working with any way?
[05:23] <chakra85> mister_roboto: and for each line it says something like (for example):  cannot remove `themes/tile/locale/vi_VN/LC_MESSAGES/themes_tile.mo': Permission denied
[05:23] <nickrud> SurfnKid, /msg memoserv list for the commands, it'll show up in the server server tab
[05:23] <earthen> milhous, well so far the only thing I can't get working is flash
[05:23] <SurfnKid> nickrud: oh just saw your msg, i thought it was dpkg-reconfigure something
[05:23] <milhous> yeah
[05:24] <SurfnKid> nickrud: oh memoserv i was messaging nickserv lol
[05:24] <milhous> and it'll be difficult to get streaming media like realplayer running as well
[05:24] <harry> chiefb: is mp4 a video format.. i just want to transfer some videos on my PSP
[05:24] <chakra85> mister_roboto: i set the permissions on my todel file as 755, and i'm running as sudo... so i don't understand why i wouldn't have permission
[05:24] <earthen> milhous, but I guess allot of sites use flash these days
[05:24] <milhous> most websites give you an option of either windows media and real player, since windows media is non-existent in linux, that leaves us with what we have left, real-player.
[05:24] <nickrud> SurfnKid, heh. I learned that one today myself
[05:24] <chiefb> harry, yeah mencoder will work with mp4 videos
[05:24] <mcrandello> chakra85, maybe put the sudo in front of the "rm -rf" ?
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> earthen take a look at Tools/Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids....
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> I did look thoroughly but that may help
[05:24] <CaptainMorgan> didn't
[05:24] <harry> chiefb: so i do the command sudo apt-get install mencoder??
[05:24] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, ok
[05:24] <mister_roboto> chakra85: the sudo will merely run the "cat" command as root. that doesn't help you.   easiest is to just "sudo -i" before running that command.
[05:24] <SurfnKid> nickrud: hah, ok so im just right behind ya, yey!
[05:25] <harry> chiefb: or i have to download it by myself?
[05:25] <eclypse> hey all, I installed wmaker, how do I make it my default window manager?
[05:25] <chiefb> harry: have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[05:25] <chiefb> harry: you have to do that first
[05:25] <harry> chiefb: yep
[05:25] <chakra85> mister_roboto, mcrandello: ooh, i just looked up what cat actually does and that makes sense... i'll try again
[05:25] <nickrud> eclypse, log out, and choose under the sessions (options?) on the login screen, it'll ask if you want it to be default
[05:25] <mister_roboto> chakra85: i *think* sudo immediately before the "rm" would work but just go to a root prompt temporarily and it will definitely work. then exit back to your regular prompt
[05:25] <harry> chiefb right on the software properties??
[05:25] <mcrandello> mister_roboto, I have to give you credit for finding a legeitimate use for "cat"
[05:26] <catch23> anyone know possibilities why ethernet in dapper drake might not be working? the module is inserted, but "ifconfig eth0" complains the device is not found....
[05:26] <chiefb> harry, it's in apt
[05:26] <chiefb> harry: yeah just do sudo apt-get mencoder
[05:27] <harry> chiefb: i already tried sudo apt-get mencoder: its now currently downloading
[05:27] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, anyidea on what i c=should be looking for everything look right in there
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: check to see if autocorrect is on...
[05:27] <harry> chiefb: so mencoder uses win32 codecs
[05:27] <chiefb> harry: I must warn you that it's only a command line tool so no pretty interface
[05:27] <chiefb> harry: it can
[05:27] <eclypse> nickrud, I didn't see anything involing wmaker on options...
[05:27] <chakra85> mister_roboto, mcrandello: things are looking good so far.... no error messages
[05:27] <milhous> very well i need to download ubuntu 32-bit, burn it to disc and re-install.
[05:27] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, yeah it's checked
[05:27] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: are you talking about checking while typing? or checking separetely? or both?
[05:28] <harry> chiefb: so how do i learn to use it basically??
[05:28] <mister_roboto> chakra85: let's just hope half your filesystem isn't missing when it's done  ;)
[05:28] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, both no spekk shecking is working at all
[05:28] <mcrandello> ;P
[05:28] <neighborlee> hm..is it normal after fresh install ( dapper release) to 'update', and then moments later literlly it wants to give you 58 more ? ;))
[05:28] <mcrandello> spell chucker work grate now kneed grandma chicken
[05:28] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15786 <<<---- my recommended sources list for dapper
[05:28] <chakra85> mister_roboto, mcrandello: ...but it didn't delete anything (i sudo -i 'd and then cd to my gallery2 directory)
[05:28] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, as you can see i make allot of typing errors LOL
[05:29] <harry> chiefb: how about the "Kino" on the add/applications menu. is it a video encoder???
[05:29] <nekostar> :D
[05:29] <blanky> hey guys
[05:29] <CaptainMorgan> aye... definately useful tool or necessity earthen
[05:29] <harry> nekostar: huh??
[05:29] <CaptainMorgan> hmm..
[05:29] <nickrud> eclypse, I'm not logging out to check it :) look for sessions
[05:29] <mcrandello> I think kino is yet another media player that won't actually play anything you want it to
[05:29] <harry> * ???
[05:29] <rigonatti> !vmware
[05:29] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[05:29] <nekostar> mas kewl sources list
[05:29] <blanky> I want to sudo apt-get install something but it keeps saying that the process is locked, how can I force it to do this or to kill the other process using it (I checked system monitor and nothing's using it)
[05:29] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, yeah I think so :)
[05:30] <chiefb> harry: I've never used kino so I don't know what video formats it works with
[05:30] <eclypse> o found it..omg, it looks horrible!
[05:30] <crimsun_> neighborlee: if you installed right before a mirror pulse finishes for -{security,updates}, yes
[05:30] <harry> chiefb: but still its a video encoder right??/
[05:30] <eclypse> is there any other options I can use to speed up gnome? because I LIKE the look of gnome...
[05:30] <nekostar> it has all repositories and uses cipherfunk like it should :D
[05:30] <nekostar> eclypse, yeah
[05:30] <eclypse> how?
[05:30] <eclypse> please inform me
[05:30] <nekostar> look into installing enlightenment
[05:30] <blanky> anyone
[05:30] <eclypse> I don't watn to sacrifice looks
[05:30] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install enlighten*
[05:30] <eclypse> or change the looks in any way
[05:30] <nekostar> its virtually the same
[05:30] <blanky> :(
[05:31] <chiefb> harry: from my understanding it's more for video editing
[05:31] <eclypse> ...
[05:31] <eclypse> I doubt it
[05:31] <nickrud> nekostar, what does cipherpunk offer, anyway? And how reliable is it? (serious question, really)
[05:31] <mcrandello> eclypse, windowmaker is wonderful if you were a fan of nextstep
[05:31] <nekostar> just do it
[05:31] <nekostar> then log out
[05:31] <nekostar> then loginto e-gnome
[05:31] <chiefb> Harry: not sure about video conversion
[05:31] <nekostar> :)_
[05:31] <eclypse>  I want gnome
[05:31] <eclypse> thats my preference.
[05:31] <nekostar> nickrud, i forgot and very reliable
[05:31] <Aesop> Hey, does anyone know how to get the EVDEV protocol and driver working? I'm using a logitech mouse, and have read through the guide, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[05:31] <chiefb> harry: here's a good guide on mencoder http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[05:31] <xxyyzz> How do you uninstall something you installed with apt-get ?
[05:31] <chakra85> mister_roboto, mcrandello: a lot of the files are in directories together (they're localization files), so i'm going to just try and search for /locale/ in my gallery directory and delete them
[05:31] <blanky> !offtopic
[05:31] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:32] <blanky> read that above guys
[05:32] <nickrud> nekostar, the second part is useful, I'm tired of offering certain old methods on restriced
[05:32] <nekostar> blanky, what bit was off topic
[05:32] <eclypse> now, how would I make Gnome faster graphics wise.
[05:32] <gigaclon> where is the place to look for more Gnome Themes?
[05:32] <catch23> hm, dapper drake no like ipv6 looks like...  internet works after blacklisting module....
[05:32] <neighborlee> crimsun_: well..I installed few days ago..finally had time and logged into ubuntu and updated, and then moments later it  wanted 58 more
[05:32] <nekostar> gigaclon, install gnome-art
[05:32] <Healot> gnome-look.org
[05:32] <nekostar> also install all the engines for gtk2
[05:32] <nekostar> and all the extra themes in the repositories
[05:32] <jmworx> Any idea why Beagle stopped working for me on Dapper a bit after I installed (worked at the beginning)?
[05:33] <blanky> xxyyzz, sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[05:33] <Centaur5> Can anyone help me get the speaker out jack on my Intel 82801G sound card working?
[05:33] <nekostar> Healot, gnome-art lets u browse em all from yer screen is very nice :)
[05:33] <xxyyzz> Thanks heaps blanky :-)
[05:33] <mcrandello> blanky, sorry I tend to wander around a bit topic wise, shifts almost over anyway so I'll bow out :)
[05:33] <eclypse> *sighs*
[05:33] <mcrandello> night
[05:33] <Healot> yeah, I want more theme...
[05:33] <blanky> no problem
[05:33] <impetigo> i found interesting to have to reboot after updates on ubuntu
[05:34] <wastrel> impetigo:  not required - but when a new kernel is installed , the update manager recommends it.
[05:34] <impetigo> Ohhh
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: you may last resort to reinstalling the suite.. :(
[05:34] <nekostar> also for building some modules wastrel :P
[05:34] <gkelly> Which package do the standard include files live in (stdio.h, etc)?
[05:34] <wastrel> well i got a new kernel today :] 
[05:34] <harry> chiefb: so i have to use the terminal when working with mencoder???
[05:34] <impetigo> my laptop froze today after i was replacing one of the LOGIN scripts is that normal?
[05:34] <chiefb> harry: yeah
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get xmodmap?
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> somehting about editing X11?
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> anyone
[05:35] <bimberi> gkelly: installing build-essential will bring them in
[05:35] <miguel> thanks krhis it's working now :)
[05:35] <gkelly> bimberi: Ah, thanks.
[05:35] <neighborlee> crimsun_: regardless when I install..does the updater not compare what I have against what is current and upgrade from there..I dont get why it would do it in stages regardless when I installed, unless the install compares against a speicifc date range ?
[05:35] <Krhis> k
[05:35] <ck3> "openoffice.org-draw is already the newest version." - why dosn't it show up under Applictions/Office?
[05:35] <Krhis> Glad I could help.
[05:36] <blanky> ck3, are you in kde or gnome
[05:36] <ck3> gnome
[05:36] <thinkofi> l
[05:36] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, I'm looking and i think it's looking for a canadian dictionarie that isn't there adn i don't think that there is one
[05:36] <impetigo> ck3 log out/ log in
[05:36] <harry> chiefb: does the mencoder auto matically detects the location of the file or i have to CD to its directory first???
[05:36] <blanky> ck3, it doesn't appear in there, and also listen to impetigo because sometimes you must do something first before menu changes take effect
[05:36] <blanky> I often see myself editing a menu item and changing it back to make changes take effect
[05:36] <impetigo> :D
[05:36] <jorvis_> has anyone used the Super Grub Disk?
[05:36] <ck3> any idea how to run it from the shell prompt ?
[05:36] <blanky> jorvis_, used it yesterday, it's great
[05:37] <jorvis_> blanky: when I boot I'm just getting a half-orange, half-white screen with some logos on it.  It's been almost 10 minutes
[05:37] <bimberi> ck3: it's in the Graphics menu, but disabled.  Use the menu editor to enable it
[05:37] <chiefb> harry: as long you give the file path correctly you don't have to be in the directory
[05:37] <mister_roboto> chakra85: sorry i was away for a bit. didn't delete them?   hmmmm   strange.  must be extra spaces on the ends of the names in the file or something.
[05:37] <chiefb> harry: but it'll be easier to work with the files
[05:37] <crimsun_> neighborlee: it upgrades from what is currently installed
[05:37] <blanky> jorvis_, are you sure you put it onto a floppy in the right way?
[05:37] <blanky> jorvis_, you didn't just drag the .img file onto it right?
[05:37] <harry> chiefb: i dont get the -o
[05:38] <ck3> chiefb - ok - ... what menu editor?
[05:38] <earthen> if I click Spell check where it  says Dictionary Language it is blank
[05:38] <gamma> anyone know if it's possible to rename an ipod in linux?
[05:38] <jorvis_> it's a boot CD, but yes ... it clearly booted from the disk.  Now there are logos from the CD like "Tirwal - software libre"
[05:38] <bimberi> ck3: right-click on "Applications"
[05:38] <chiefb> harry: that's the output file name
[05:38] <TheoMurpse> I downloaded Opera 8.54 for Dapper Drake and tried to install it ("dpkg -i opera_8.54blahblah.deb") and I get that I'm missing dependencies xlib6g and xlibs. What are these packages, and how can I get them? I can't find them via apt...
[05:38] <earthen> CaptainMorgan, is that what you have
[05:38] <i\o> I'm trying to remove certain modules from autoloading, but they aren't in my /etc/modules
[05:38] <blanky> gamma, probably in banshee, though don't look forward to it, I often see myself using windows for ipod maneuvers since I don't want to risk anything
[05:38] <chiefb> ck3: what menu editor?
[05:38] <n0dl> i have a SansDisk Card reader that is connected via USB. When i place the card into the reader a drive titled "USBDISK" appears on my desktop. However when mounted it renders it read-only... how can i fix his?
[05:38] <ck3> woa - never saw that...  neat
[05:38] <blanky> gamma, possibly you can even do it through some file editing
[05:39] <anilruby> hello all!
[05:39] <bimberi> chiefb: s'ok, (s)he meant me
[05:39] <jorvis_> blanky: it's a boot CD, but yes ... it clearly booted from the disk.  Now there are logos from the CD like "Tirwal - software libre"
[05:39] <Healot> !usplash
[05:39] <ubotu> I heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:39] <crimsun_> TheoMurpse: they're old packages from the monolithic X.Org. Use the Debian unstable/Sid package of Opera 9 beta 2
[05:39] <anilruby> which is better gentoo or ubuntu?
[05:39] <gamma> blanky: banshee seems to just update its own database so that when that ipod is detected it renames it in it's list view
[05:39] <crimsun_> TheoMurpse: then install xlibs from breezy-security
[05:39] <gamma> but it doesn't actually rename it
[05:39] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: hmm.. if it's looking for a dictionary that isn't there it won't work :)
[05:39] <jorvis_> anilruby: questions like that just start arguments.  both are good, but for different reasons.
[05:39] <FreeNet> is there a possible way that a normal user can automatically have sudo rights, without having to use the sudo command every time ?
[05:39] <TheoMurpse> crimsun_: Thanks. I just downloaded the "Ubuntu 6.06" version of Opera straight off their website. I had thought that would work.
[05:39] <i\o> I'm trying to remove certain modules from autoloading, but they aren't in my /etc/modules.. where are they?!
[05:39] <chiefb> bimberi: oh
[05:39] <CaptainMorgan> earthen: I have estern us.. I believe
[05:39] <ck3> anilruby - it depends. if you are going to keep asking questions like that, then gentoo is better ;)
[05:39] <harry> chiefb: is the output filename the one that follows -o command.. after converting the video it will fgo directly to the same folder??
[05:39] <CaptainMorgan> western
[05:39] <jorvis_> anilruby: I use both
[05:39] <blanky> gamma, ah, like I said so far all I've seen is reading those types of settings in linux, but I forget which app I heard of which can do this
[05:39] <n0dl> does anyone know?
[05:40] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get xmodmap?
[05:40] <ck3> (sorry - couldn't resist)
[05:40] <blanky> jorvis_, the language is spanish, and try using the floppy instead of the CD, that's what I used, so I cna't really help you with the CD one
[05:40] <ck3> yea! OO Draw!  thanks folks
[05:40] <blanky> ck3, heh
[05:40] <anilruby> In the programing point of view, whcih is better gentoo or ubuntu?
[05:40] <jorvis_> blanky: I don't have a way of getting it on a floppy.  and don't have floppies.  : )
[05:40] <jorvis_> anilruby: that question really doesn't make any sense.
[05:41] <jbjune> I just updated dapper and my timed login is asking for a password, how do I make it not to ask a password?
[05:41] <nekostar> FreeNet, very dangerous to do something like that,
[05:41] <dr_willis> anilruby,  i doubt if it matters much at all.
[05:41] <TheoMurpse> anilruby: do you mean which is easier to program for? Or within?
[05:41] <Healot> anilruby: off-topic
[05:41] <blanky> anilruby, either. However, in ubuntu you might have to install certain programming tools such as the build-essential package which includes standard building tools such as gcc and make
[05:41] <bimberi> FreeNet: yes, 'man sudoers' and look for NOPASSWD.  Not great security (but i'm sure you know that :) )
[05:41] <aedwards232> Does anyone know of a way to get the physical location(city) of a public IP address, such as given with visual route?
[05:41] <TheoMurpse> I don't understand how an answer is possible either way, though.
[05:41] <blanky> anilruby, gentoo compiles every package it installs, usually, but like I said, either
[05:41] <FreeNet> nekostar, i have a program I cannot use because it's hardcoded to not use the sudo command, and in order to use the program you have to use sudo
[05:41] <neighborlee> crimsun_: if it upgrades from what is currently installed, then why would it not install everything all at once instead of what I saw which was 19 updates, then few minutes later literally it said you have 58 more ;))...sorry if im  being dense on this but its n ot making sense.
[05:41] <FreeNet> nekostar, so I am trying to bypass it
[05:41] <TheoMurpse> I used to use Gentoo. It's great until you get tired of compiling all your programs over and over and over again.
[05:41] <dr_willis> When in doubt learn the linux FUNdamentals.. you cant go wrong with learning the core fundamentals.
[05:41] <neighborlee> brb
[05:41] <nekostar> FreeNet,
[05:41] <nekostar> is it an X proggie ?
[05:42] <ck3> it has been a while sinse I used OODraw - are there any libaries of shapes, like "Internet cloud" and "router" ?
[05:42] <graft> hey, y'all, is there some way to deal with this Macromedia-Flash-Player-7-freezing-Firefox bug?
[05:42] <jorvis_> anyone else use Super Grub Disk?  I can't get past the boot screen.
[05:42] <nekostar> sudo su
[05:42] <CaptainMorgan> anyone familiar with keymapping?
[05:42] <gwark> hi
[05:42] <nekostar> or just plain ol su
[05:42] <crimsun_> neighborlee: not all mirrors sync at the same time.
[05:42] <slavik> or sudo -s -H
[05:42] <anilruby> when I install fresh ubuntu, hwo to edit sudoers file so I can get rights
[05:42] <nickrud> sudo -i
[05:42] <nekostar> after u set a pass on the root
[05:42] <blanky> CaptainMorgan, people at #gentoo usually are
[05:42] <blanky> anilruby, visudo ? I'm not sure
[05:42] <CaptainMorgan> ill try it, thanks blanky
[05:42] <dr_willis> ck3,  i saw those things in some program.. but not oodraw.. some other  vecto4r drawing program. (dia?) or similer.
[05:42] <FreeNet> nekostar, the app is rioutil (Used to interface with rio mp3 players) You have to sudo to use rioutil, and the gui app for it doesnt have sudo rioutil hard coded, only rioutil
[05:42] <chris_> quick question: Whicj kernel should I be using with an AMD 2400 XP (i386, i686, or K7)?
[05:42] <existance> aedwards232, there are various whois servers that can usually give you an approximate area
[05:43] <grant> Is there some type of theme manager for ubuntu?
[05:43] <blanky> CaptainMorgan, what's your problem/question, specifically
[05:43] <nekostar> Healot, that was not offtopic from anilruby
[05:43] <blanky> !kernel
[05:43] <nekostar> that was a very valid question
[05:43] <anilruby> when I install fresh ubuntu, how to edit sudoers file so I can get rights
[05:43] <dr_willis> grant,  both kde and gnome have theme managers.
[05:43] <ck3> dr_willis: dia - that may be what I was thinking of.. thanks
[05:43] <TheoMurpse> chris_: You'd prolly wanna be using K7. That is for x86 AMD processors.
[05:43] <nekostar> anilruby, yeah
[05:43] <blanky> anilruby, I told you, visudo I believe
[05:43] <jbjune> anyone how do I make the timed login not to ask any password?
[05:43] <slavik> http://pastebin.com/712178
[05:43] <dust> i'm thinking of getting the maxter one touch usb hard drive, has anyone had any exoerience with it?
[05:43] <grant> I cannot locate it in ubuntu?
[05:43] <gwark> how do i remove a directory and all of it's contents  ( i tried rmdir gaim-2.0.0 which gave me : rmdir: gaim-2.0.0: Directory not empty )
[05:43] <nekostar> sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers
[05:43] <chris_> thanks theo... any idea why i386 was autoamtically installed?
[05:43] <dr_willis> anilruby,  best to learn to use 'sudo'
[05:43] <dr_willis> !sudo
[05:43] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <FreeNet> nekostar, so i am trying to find a way to make a specific user (The one I am logged in as now) automatically sudo
[05:43] <nekostar> gwark, rm -rf /path/to/directory
[05:43] <anilruby> bit visudo cant save, i dont have superuse rights
[05:43] <grant> dr_willis, i cannot locate it in ubuntu
[05:43] <dust> or is there any recommendations for exteral hard discs
[05:43] <blanky> FreeNet, what environment
[05:43] <ck3> dust - get a big drive and a USB enclouser - save a few bucks
[05:44] <blanky> FreeNet, GNOME or KDE
[05:44] <nekostar> FreeNet, look into adding a sticky bit and run as suid
[05:44] <slavik> dr_willis: remember wifitux?
[05:44] <chiefb> harry: yeah
[05:44] <dr_willis> grant,  its rigth there in the menus/controls under window appearance I belive..
[05:44] <FreeNet> blanky, the app is a console app, the GUI is a java app
[05:44] <anilruby> how can i use sudo, until i dont have acc in sudoers
[05:44] <FreeNet> blanky, but right now i am in gnome
[05:44] <chiefb> harry: unless you specify it to go to another folder
[05:44] <gwark> ahhh. <nekostar> thankyou
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> blanky: I have two keys on my thinkpad - forward and backward - used for browsing... Ive searched and it has soemthing to do with xmodmap and X11... I used xev, a tool to identify whether they actually work at all and it confirmed they did.. they're just not mapped to the correct function
[05:44] <blanky> FreeNet, and which is it you want, both?
[05:44] <TheoMurpse> chris_: Probably because x86 works for it as well. The only difference is that K7 is I think more optimised for AMD processors. I'm not sure, though. I've just used K7 on my Athlon XP-M 2000+ for a while now, and it's fine.
[05:44] <aedwards232> existance, I have found that the results given from whois are very unreliable, is there a specific whois service you were thinking about?
[05:44] <nekostar> anilruby,
[05:44] <dr_willis> anilruby,  you removed the first user you created?
[05:44] <blanky> CaptainMorgan, hold on a sec
[05:44] <nickrud> anilruby, type groups in a terminal, if you are in the group admin you can sudo
[05:44] <nekostar> you automatically have sudo from the first user made in ubuntu
[05:44] <existance> aedwards232, ugh, making me use those sections of my brain...
[05:44] <dust> ck3-- yeah i was looking at them today and i might but the maxtor thing is so nice looking.
[05:45] <slavik> dr_willis: do you think dragging hp into court is a good way to get them to give me an unlocked BIOS?
[05:45] <anilruby> yeah, but first user cant edit sudoers file until he so su not sudo
[05:45] <anilruby> yeah, but first user cant edit sudoers file until he do su not sudo
[05:45] <ck3> dust - is it worth the extra $50+ ?
[05:45] <dr_willis> slavik,  good luck.
[05:45] <chris_> aight.. thanks I'll give it a try
[05:45] <grant> dr_willis, im running kubuntu ..
[05:45] <FreeNet> blanky, i want it so i can interface with rioutil using the JRioUtil app. Currently I can't because the program is hard coded to use riotutil instead of sudo rioutil
[05:45] <existance> aedwards232, i suppose you could try several and if they corroborate then they probably accurate
[05:45] <blanky> CaptainMorgan, try this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys
[05:45] <nekostar> sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers
[05:45] <nekostar> works verified
[05:45] <nekostar> ~_~
[05:45] <FreeNet> so i am trying to find a way so that this user I am using is automatically sudo, so I don't have to run sudo
[05:45] <dr_willis> grant,  right click on a window title bar and see if theres a window-appearance item is one wya to get there..
[05:45] <slavik> FreeNet: not a good idea
[05:45] <rixth> I got a bug. Gaim doesn't put an icon in notification area.
[05:45] <blanky> FreeNet, ah, did you try what nekostar said, sudo -i
[05:46] <existance> aedwards232, i found a list by googling it, might try that.
[05:46] <wenjvn> hi
[05:46] <slavik> rixth: are you sure the notification area is there?
[05:46] <anilruby> nekostar, automatcailly created first user is not is sudoers list
[05:46] <anilruby> u have to add it
[05:46] <dr_willis> rixth,  unless its a setting that you can disable. :P
[05:46] <FreeNet> blanky, when I do that, I can't run the java app.
[05:46] <slavik> that, too
[05:46] <blanky> FreeNet, why not, what's it say
[05:46] <anilruby> but u cant change it until u r superuser
[05:46] <rixth> sladen, yes, cause rhymbox is in it
[05:46] <rixth> !tell anilruby about aolbonics
[05:46] <blanky> anilruby, how does that happen...the first user created should be allowed to do sudo
[05:47] <FreeNet> blanky, - something about a wrong header on line 15 or something of jrioutil.class
[05:47] <slavik> rixth: as dr_willis said, it's a setting
[05:47] <blanky> rofl rixth
[05:47] <Healot> !java
[05:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[05:47] <CaptainMorgan> nice - blanky that has 'setting up xmodmap' this should help...
[05:47] <harry> chiefb: is this the standard library for any video and audo codecs. even for converting to mp4 format..  mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.avi -ovc lavc -oac lavc
[05:47] <rixth> !tell anilruby about aolbonics
[05:47] <blanky> CaptainMorgan, hope it does
[05:47] <rixth> There we go.
[05:47] <dr_willis> all my first users can edit the sudoers list with sudo visdudo  /etc/wyhatever  I think
[05:47] <nickrud> FreeNet, take a look at man sudoers, you can give a user the right to run one particular app without a sudo password.
[05:47] <anilruby> blanky, means I can change sudoers file with first user doing sudo
[05:47] <rixth> slavik, I couldn't find it?
[05:47] <grant> dr_willis, can i just install a theme manager, i dont think its on here man..
[05:47] <slavik> rixth: you have to load the plugin first
[05:48] <dust> ck3- it is hard to put a price on aesthetics. i''' have to look at it and compare it to the cases that are available. if it sits in my house and interacts with my funiture than $50 is worth it
[05:48] <blanky> FreeNet, maybe it's the problem with the java application itself, did you try redownloading/reinstalling?
[05:48] <dr_willis> grant,  you are overlookign it..   look in the controlpanel/settings menu. or go read a kde beginners guide or 2
[05:48] <anilruby> what i do is that fisrt change modes of sudoers file
[05:48] <rixth> Ah, didn't think that'd be a plugin... thanks
[05:48] <grant> dr_willis, i been using linux for quiet a while, lol im not overlooking it :)
[05:48] <anilruby> then su and add my username is sudoers file
[05:48] <FreeNet> blanky, it only does it if I use sudo -i. If I use sudo java -jar blah.jar it works fine
[05:48] <anilruby> then only I can do all
[05:48] <Xyc0> I have a wireless question.  I've always needed ndiswrapper to use wireless, but this latest update identified that I have a wireless card but doesn't seem to work.  Should I try fixing it or using ndiswrapper?
[05:48] <dr_willis> grant,  if you installed kubuntu - i doubt if it dident install the 'themes' part.
[05:48] <blanky> FreeNet, ah okay
[05:49] <anilruby> this is just a difficult procedure for novices
[05:49] <Xenguy> Did anyone else just lose X completely after this major GNOMEish upgrade that came down the pipe?
[05:49] <blanky> FreeNet, what's it called again, the name of the application
[05:49] <Xenguy> I have NVIDIA graphics card (seems to be the problem)
[05:49] <dr_willis> Xenguy,  i think my system survived
[05:49] <FreeNet> blanky, rioutil is the back-end of it, JRioUtil is the front end gui that I can't get to work with it. (Rio util works if you use sudo rioutil <command>
[05:49] <Xenguy> I upgraded to Dapper previously with no problem...
[05:49] <blanky> FreeNet, so your problem is the gui
[05:49] <Xenguy> Now I download this update, and X just crashes
[05:49] <rixth> Also, I keep randomly hearing the login sound... like when I click the show desktop button
[05:50] <Xenguy> This is not good
[05:50] <jorvis_> I have a Breezy DVD and need to re-install Ubuntu, is it worth the time to download Dapper and use it or should I just install Breezy then upgrade?
[05:50] <Healot> both...
[05:50] <Healot> depends on your plan
[05:50] <FreeNet> blanky, well, the problem is the gui is hard coded to use JUST rioutil, but in order to use rioutil you have to use sudo rioutil, and I cant change the hard code on it, so I have to find a way for the user to automatically sudo
[05:50] <nanotube> anilruby, here is a faq that includes a section on sudo and /etc/sudoers. might be helpful: http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Forums_FAQ
[05:50] <DBO> jorvis_, download the dapper CD is faster probably
[05:50] <rixth> I also hear the login sound when I click a combo box or check box in Gnome.
[05:51] <nanotube> Xenguy, did you try changing vid driver to vesa?
[05:51] <anilruby> any indian here, have u received ubuntu dapper cds yet?
[05:51] <blanky> FreeNet, type alias rioutil='sudo rioutil'
[05:51] <blanky> and then try it
[05:51] <blanky> FreeNet, tell me if it works
[05:51] <shannon> hi
[05:51] <rixth> !tell anilruby about aolbonics
[05:51] <blanky> shannon, hey
[05:51] <blanky> LOL rixth shut up already
[05:51] <Mixx> Xenguy happened to me to
[05:51] <shannon> this is the first time iv used
[05:51] <anilruby> any indian here, have u received ubuntu dapper cds yet?
[05:51] <blanky> it's pointless to teach him he wont learn
[05:51] <Xenguy> nanotube: vesa is a Plan B; my NVIDIA X setup was just broken by this update - bah
[05:51] <FreeNet> would i have to stdin the password and use -S ?
[05:51] <rixth> blanky, the message needs to get through =)
[05:51] <FreeNet> otherwords it's going to ask for it
[05:51] <blanky> haha
[05:51] <rixth> !tell anilruby about repeat
[05:52] <slavik> anilruby: you're from india?
[05:52] <Xenguy> Mixx: bah - this sucks
[05:52] <Mixx> rerun sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:52] <Xenguy> Mixx: did you find a fix?
[05:52] <blanky> FreeNet, just try what I said, or do any other command but you get the idea i believe
[05:52] <dr_willis>  indian - to me - means a 'native american' :P
[05:52] <nickrud> FreeNet, username            ALL = NOPASSWD: <path to>rioutil , something like that in sudoers will work
[05:52] <Xenguy> Mixx: OK will try
[05:52] <blanky> dr_willis, unfortunately
[05:52] <dr_willis> blanky,  i also live in 'indiana'
[05:52] <shannon> wow this is relly random
[05:52] <blanky> dr_willis, hahaha
[05:53] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[05:53] <FreeNet> yes, that works, blanky
[05:53] <nanotube> nickrud, that will only allow people to use that command with sudo without password. but freenet wants it to be run as root, without prefacing with sudo, because the gui is hardcoded to just use "rioutil"
[05:53] <blanky> FreeNet, :)
[05:53] <nickrud> nanotube, doh. thanks
[05:53] <shannon> :P
[05:53] <FreeNet> now to test if jrioutil works
[05:53] <FreeNet> if it does, I am forever greatful
[05:54] <blanky> FreeNet, haha, hope it does
[05:54] <shannon> lol well this is to confusing i think i woll just go back to skype and msn
[05:54] <blanky> FreeNet, let me know
[05:54] <nanotube> nickrud, ;)
[05:54] <blanky> shannon, what happened?
[05:54] <nanotube> FreeNet, i'm curious too. let us all know. :)
[05:54] <blanky> shannon, oh, you mean IRC?
[05:54] <shannon> confusing all thes convos
[05:54] <shannon> lol
[05:54] <nanotube> shannon, hehe yea, it takes some getting used to
[05:55] <blanky> haha shannon, you using xchat? it's pretty easy with xchat
[05:55] <nickrud> nanotube, I started bad, went well, now bad. Story of my life
[05:55] <blanky> after getting used to IRC, it's REALLY helpful, REALLY
[05:55] <shannon> no i use skype
[05:55] <wastrel> skype is voip?
[05:55] <blanky> wastrel, true
[05:55] <nanotube> nickrud, hehe
[05:55] <nickrud> time to test my gnome update
[05:55] <shannon> well cya
[05:55] <nanotube> wastrel, yea, skype can do voip, but also has a text im client built in
[05:56] <FreeNet> nope, no go
[05:56] <blanky> :'(
[05:56] <blanky> FreeNet, what'd it say?
[05:56] <FreeNet> error
[05:56] <wastrel> oic
[05:56] <wastrel> ok
[05:56] <blanky> FreeNet, what's the error
[05:56] <nanotube> FreeNet, i suspected as much. since jrioutil will spawn its own environment, and your alias will not work
[05:56] <CaptainMorgan> does .xsession exist by default?
[05:56] <blanky> FreeNet, the same error?
[05:56] <nanotube> FreeNet, i would suggest two things, in order of "ease". :) first, add that alias to your .bashrc file
[05:56] <nanotube> FreeNet, then try again
[05:56] <blanky> nanotube, would editing the bashrc file change things?
[05:56] <blanky> :')
[05:57] <nanotube> blanky, yea, that's what i am suggesting. you are just in time :)
[05:57] <FreeNet> blanky, yeah, an error about not finding the device (The same error that rioutil gives when you don't sudo first)
[05:57] <blanky> yesterday I was a noob :), now I'm all grown up (puts on pampers diapers, with the music playing in the background)
[05:57] <keebler> how do you connect a dsl modem to unbuntu with a usb connection?
[05:57] <blanky> FreeNet, try what nanotube said, edit ~/.bashrc and add the line that you typed, the alias command
[05:57] <FreeNet> i dont remember it
[05:57] <nanotube> blanky, FreeNet second thing if that doesnt work, is to create a one line shell script that calls "sudo rioutil.moved", and move /usr/bin/rioutil to rioutil.moved, and place the shellscript in there instead.
[05:58] <CaptainMorgan> blanky do you know if .xsession exist by default? I can't find it...
[05:58] <blanky> CaptainMorgan, doesn't
[05:58] <FreeNet> seems like I would have to do echo <password> | sudo -S rioutil for the alias
[05:58] <keebler> can anyone help me?
[05:58] <Xyc0> If dapper ID's my wireless card, does that mean it should have drivers for it or do I still need to install ndiswrapper?
[05:58] <blanky> FreeNet, try try try with trial and error, you should get it working :)
[05:59] <FreeNet> what was the alias you gave me?
[05:59] <FreeNet> I can't even remember
[05:59] <nanotube> blanky, FreeNet, well no, you would edit your sudoers to let you run rioutil without password, and THEN set the alias to "sudo rioutil" that way you dont need password.
[05:59] <blanky> lol nanotube's a genious
[05:59] <FreeNet> alright, how do I edit my sudoers ?
[06:00] <blanky> if i could remember all these things...
[06:00] <FreeNet> so that I don't need a password fr that app ?
[06:00] <nanotube> FreeNet, the alias line is " alias rioutil='sudo rioutil' "
[06:00] <blanky> visudo i believe, though I never really got that
[06:00] <nanotube> freenet: to edit sudoers, run "sudo visudo"
[06:00] <FreeNet> yeah, got that part :)
[06:00] <FreeNet> just not sure what to do about the file
[06:01] <nanotube> blanky, heh, i've just already been through editing the sudoers and permissions. :) so it just seems i'm smart, but i am just experienced ;)
[06:01] <nanotube> FreeNet, ah, well, add this line to it:
[06:01] <Healot> FreeNet: man sudoers
[06:01] <mininet> does anyone know if it is possible to start vino-server remotely from a ssh shell?
[06:01] <nanotube> FreeNet, "yourusername ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/rioutil"
[06:02] <Ademan> anyone here have steam working with wine?
[06:02] <noige> hey do you think that I could feasibly throw ubuntu on a dual 400MHZ with 256 RAM?
[06:02] <k31th> Morning
[06:02] <FreeNet> nanotube,  do I have to restart the computer or anything ?
[06:02] <nanotube> noige, yes, i think so. though xfce would probably be snappier
[06:02] <nanotube> FreeNet, no, i don't think so.
[06:02] <FreeNet> than it's not working
[06:02] <blanky> FreeNet, krioutil ?
[06:02] <k31th> noige: yeah just dont expect it to be amazingly fast
[06:02] <nanotube> FreeNet, what exact command is not working?
[06:03] <FreeNet> blanky, get compile errors with that
[06:03] <k31th> and xfce
[06:03] <keebler> can someone help me with a usb question
[06:03] <blanky> FreeNet, so i've heard
[06:03] <FreeNet> nanotube, using rioutil without sudo
[06:03] <darx> greetings..
[06:03] <nanotube> freenet, no you misunderstand! :)
[06:03] <darx> how do i enable the skydome in compiz?
[06:03] <k31th> keebler: Dont ask to ask, just ask
[06:03] <mister_roboto> noige: i'm running kubuntu on just such a machine and it's working pretty well. a little sluggish but quite tolerable
[06:03] <keebler> i have a dsl modem that i want to connect to a laptop using a usb cable
[06:03] <nanotube> FreeNet, you still have to use sudo, it just won't ask you for a password
[06:03] <mininet> noige i'm running xfce with a similer setup it works well
[06:03] <FreeNet> nanotube, once I setup the alias, I should only have to use rioutil, correct ?
[06:04] <FreeNet> I setup the alias to run sudo rioutil
[06:04] <k31th> keebler: right....
[06:04] <darx> !skydome
[06:04] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, darx
[06:04] <keebler> i dont know how
[06:04] <k31th> well ahve you plugged it in
[06:04] <keebler> yes
[06:04] <k31th> and what usb modem is it
[06:05] <FreeNet> nanotube, in my .bashrc file I have alias rioutil='sudo rioutil'
[06:05] <keebler> actiontec gt701
[06:05] <k31th> go to a cmd line and type lsusb
[06:05] <k31th> ok
[06:05] <nanotube> FreeNet, well, you have to start another bash before the alias takes effect
[06:05] <keebler> its there
[06:05] <FreeNet> so close out terminal and try again ?
[06:05] <sam_> with the Gnome GLSlideshow screensaver, where do I place pictures for it to cycle?
[06:05] <nanotube> FreeNet, right :)
[06:06] <darx> sam_: gnome screensaver is handicapped
[06:06] <FreeNet> nope
[06:06] <FreeNet> still doesn't work
[06:06] <k31th> keebler: doesnt that modem have ethernet as well
[06:06] <darx> it doesn't allow you to do that
[06:06] <mininet> is there a way to start vino-server remotely?
[06:06] <FreeNet> something wrong with JRioUtil i'm taking it
[06:06] <keebler> yes but thats connectd to this computer
[06:06] <Healot> sam_: read the documentation (link to that should be available on the screensaver dialog)
[06:06] <keebler> which is running xp
[06:06] <nanotube> does just "rioutil" work from commandline, now that you have the alias, and the sudoers edit?
[06:06] <darx> sam_: they say its for the sake of security; pretty dumb i say
[06:06] <k31th> well get a switch
[06:06] <FreeNet> yes
[06:06] <FreeNet> it works
[06:06] <k31th> they cost nothing
[06:07] <Madpilot> sam_, install xscreensaver again - gnome-screensaver has decided not to actually support existing screensaver features :|
[06:07] <k31th> thats by far the better option
[06:07] <nanotube> FreeNet, but jrioutil still doent work?
[06:07] <FreeNet> JRioUtil isn't for some reason.
[06:07] <darx> sam_: remove it and install xscreensaver
[06:07] <blanky> FreeNet, it works now?!
[06:07] <keebler> so theres no way i can hook it up now
[06:07] <sam_> ok thanks!
[06:07] <blanky> FreeNet, oh, nvm
[06:07] <keebler> i just want to get online to install some video codecs
[06:07] <nanotube> FreeNet, well, that's not too surprising. so now you have to try the plan b :) create the shellscript, and stick it in instead of /usr/bin/rioutil
[06:07] <FreeNet> Keeps telling me that the device isn't attached, which is the same error that rioutil gives if you don't use sudo first. (Only now rioutil works)
[06:07] <FreeNet> create what shellscript ?
[06:07] <nanotube> FreeNet, clearly, jrioutil does not spawn a bash, it just spawns the program directly
[06:08] <k31th> keebler: yes, but i would DEFF use ethernet usb can be shit laggy etc esp if you game or watever. I dont think you can use usb and ethernet on those type of devices
[06:08] <keebler> im not
[06:08] <nanotube> FreeNet, ah, you missed that plan b, eh. well, here goes. create a shellscript that just has "sudo /usr/bin/rioutil.moved"
[06:08] <keebler> i just want it to install video codecs
[06:08] <keebler> and to know how
[06:08] <FreeNet> what do I save it as ?
[06:08] <nanotube> FreeNet, then run command "sudo mv /usr/bin/rioutil /usr/bin/rioutil.moved"
[06:08] <Madpilot> darx, https://launchpad.net/bugs/22007
[06:09] <nanotube> FreeNet, then run command "sudo cp whereveryouputyourshellscript /usr/bin/rioutil"
[06:09] <tsume__> hey.. in evolution.. the "send options" is broken, what happened to it?
[06:09] <k31th> keebler: restricted formats...
[06:09] <tsume__> in the evolution packaged with dapper
[06:09] <tsume__> its completely fudged :(
[06:09] <nanotube> FreeNet, that will essentially replace rioutil with a shellscript that runs rioutil with sudo. so then when jrioutil spawns rioutil, it will be spawning the shellscript, not the actual rioutil. and that /should/ solve the problem. ;)
[06:10] <nanotube> FreeNet, got that? :)
[06:10] <keebler> what about them k31th ?
[06:10] <nanotube> blanky, hehe, this is getting more complicated by the minute, eh? :)
[06:10] <sam_> ok i installed xscreensaver but cannot remove gnome-scerensaver, it says ubuntu-desktop needs it?
[06:10] <k31th> keebler: you wanted to install video codecs ?
[06:10] <blanky> nanotube, haha
[06:10] <k31th> so you can watch xvid etc?
[06:11] <keebler> yes but i have no way of getting online
[06:11] <keebler> yes
[06:11] <k31th> ahhh
[06:11] <tsume__> "Sorry send options only available for a groupwise account" <-- omg dumb ;(
[06:11] <keebler> thats why i need to get this usb hooked up
[06:11] <FreeNet> nanotube,  yeah, but how do I make a shell script? Just nano, type in the command, and save as rioutil ?
[06:11] <CaptainMorgan> is there an equivalent to KHotkeys?
[06:11] <k31th> just unhook the eth cable from your xp and stick it in ur ubuntu box then reboot
[06:11] <k31th> you cant use usb and  eth at the same time
[06:12] <k31th> as at the moment eth uses the modem to dial your adsl
[06:12] <nanotube> FreeNet, ah, yes, you just do "nano myshellscript" and place that line into it. save and exit, then don't forget to chmod it to 755 (command "chmod 755 myshellscript"
[06:12] <QMario> Hello lilo!!! :)
[06:12] <nanotube> FreeNet, also, before that command, the first line of the script has to be "#!/bin/bash"
[06:12] <k31th> however if you use usb i will make the connection from your pc
[06:12] <k31th> this is not a restriction of linux
[06:12] <k31th> would be the same if you ran windows mac etc
[06:13] <darx> Madpilot: i read that before.. :) i'm entitled to my opinion however.. do you know how to enable the skydome???
[06:13] <k31th> go buy a cheap hub / swich 4 port or some thing
[06:13] <tsume__> the first line is called the shebang, make note for future reference
[06:13] <FreeNet> nanotube, - now I  can't parse through params
[06:13] <nanotube> FreeNet, what do you mean? what params?
[06:13] <Madpilot> darx, the what?
[06:13] <Snowfairy> Can anyone tell me a bandwidth monitor program that will keep track of total bandwidth used until I reset it?   (Trying to make sure I don't exceed my internet's monthly cap)
[06:14] <blanky> nanotube, the readme ( http://www.botch.com/~mpilone/projects/jrioutil/README ) if it helps
[06:14] <nanotube> Snowfairy, maybe "wondershaper" ?
[06:14] <FreeNet> nanotube, - I have to pass parms along with rioutil in order for it to work. (rioutil -list, rioutil -d, etc) and the script only passes through rioutil
[06:14] <k31th> Snowfairy: i use IPCOP's bandwidth monitoring
[06:14] <stevejesus> whats up guys
[06:14] <mininet> hey
[06:14] <tsume__> stevejesus: the sky
[06:14] <k31th> but there are tonnes of toheres go to http://freshmeat.net and type in bandwidth monitoring
[06:14] <nanotube> FreeNet, aaah! ok that's easy enough. change your rioutil line to:
[06:14] <FreeNet> every time I type rioutil it brings up the help menu telling me what params to pass with it
[06:14] <darx> Madpilot: the background image in compiz.. whatever that is called. i thought it was called skydome.. don't know for sure
[06:14] <stevejesus> i have got some interesting issues her.thrying to spread x across 3 displays
[06:14] <k31th> or do an apt-cache search
[06:15] <Madpilot> darx, no idea, I don't run compiz
[06:15] <Snowfairy> nanotube, I'm not sure wondershaper is what I'm looking for... it very well could be, I just thought it was for doing priority on packets and stuff....
[06:15] <Snowfairy> apt-cache search gave me a few... but none seem to keep total bandwidth through restarts.
[06:15] <tsume__> heh
[06:15] <Snowfairy> I need it to keep tracking even if I reboot.
[06:15] <FreeNet> store it in logs
[06:15] <Snowfairy> how?
[06:16] <Snowfairy> that's not a very helpful answer :P
[06:16] <stevejesus> i ran the autodetection script and it found the first monitor hooked to my geforce 5600.  however it auto detected the pci video card, and then the monitor connected to the agp card
[06:16] <FreeNet> lol
[06:16] <FreeNet> sorry. i'm new to ubuntu
[06:16] <Snowfairy> me too :)
[06:16] <tsume__> Snowfairy: learn how to write init scripts and slap it in the init directory for rebooting and dropping in to single user mode
[06:16] <FreeNet> nanotube, ? Change it to what ?
[06:16] <darx> Madpilot: okies.. you should try it.. its darn sexy me thinks.. finally i've a desktop that kicks windoze's ass.. muhahaha
[06:16] <Snowfairy> mur... ubuntu's nasty tonight.
[06:16] <noige> what is the difference between alternate install cd and the regular? I notice a few differences from some google searches (text based installer, various LVM options, grub options etc) can anyone explain more about this
[06:16] <FreeNet> im trying to find some gnome themes
[06:16] <FreeNet> nice ones, too
[06:17] <Kaja> =p
[06:17] <dr_willis> noige,  if you are starting out - stick with the normal install cd.
[06:17] <Frem> FreeNet, Try Gnome-Look
[06:17] <Ademan> FreeNet: don't try and make gnome look pretty, lol
[06:17] <Snowfairy> freenet, gnome-look.org
[06:17] <stevejesus> initially i had all three monitors conected.  2 monitors to the agp nvidia and 1 to the pci.  the machine would boot up on the 2 monitors connected to the agp card, and then when x started it would start on the pci card.
[06:17] <Snowfairy> and... art.gnome.org
[06:17] <Snowfairy> are good places to look.
[06:17] <Ademan> anyone know what the status on AIGLX is?
[06:17] <FreeNet> just stopped by Gnome-Look :)
[06:17] <nanotube> FreeNet, sorry, just looking some stuff up to make sure i give you the right thing :) hold on a sec
[06:18] <FreeNet> nanotube,  k, thanks alot for the help
[06:18] <FreeNet> nanotube,  btw, will this still work for all users ?
[06:18] <stevejesus> any ideas.
[06:18] <TheoMurpse> crimsun_: I tried to do what you told me earlier: I downloaded the Debian Sid package of Opera 9b2 and installed xlibs via synaptic package manager, and now I tried to dpkg the Opera v9 b2 package and still get that the xlibs package dependency isn't met.
[06:18] <darx> ladies and gentlemen.. me needs attention.. help me turn on the compiz background thingy :(
[06:18] <stevejesus> i can certainly elabborate further, just would hate to type all this out if there is no interest in this issue
[06:18] <noige> I am just starting with Ubuntu but I have used *nix for about 6 years, is there that big of a difference between the alternate and gui installer?
[06:18] <|cerebellum|> can anyone help me out with some apache questions?
[06:19] <chris_> anyone have a server list for synaptic package manager to make my life easy :P
[06:19] <chris_> like any reccomendations!?
[06:19] <chris_> :))
[06:19] <darx> noige: not too much. but the latest installer is cool.. its boots into live demo and optionally installs while you chekout the system.. darn cool me thinks..
[06:20] <stevejesus> well, i guess i will just fight it some more then.  does anyone here have experience with more than 2 displays in ubuntu?
[06:20] <darx> noige: i'm talkin bout ubuntu.. don't know about kubuntu and the alternatives
[06:20] <nanotube> FreeNet, so, change it to "sudo /usr/bin/rioutil.moved $@"
[06:21] <blanky> who's the one that needs compiz help, darx ?
[06:21] <nickrud> chris_, if you're on i386, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15786 is nice, libdvdcss & w32codecs are an apt-get away
[06:21] <stevejesus> well, whatever.  time to restart x.
[06:21] <darx> blanky: me
[06:21] <nanotube> FreeNet, no, it will only work for your user, because when we edited the sudoers file with visudo, we put in just your username to have nopasswd access to rioutil
[06:21] <nanotube> FreeNet, if you want it to work for all users, have to edit sudoers again :)
[06:21] <chris_> thanks nickrud  :)
[06:21] <blanky> darx, try /join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:21] <FreeNet> nanotube, - i meant rioutil. Will it still work normally for them? (Where they have to sudo first?)
[06:21] <chris_> wow nickrud ;) nice!
[06:22] <darx> blanky: oh.. thanks a lot.. didn't even knew about that channel
[06:22] <FreeNet> and nanotube  that still didn't work
[06:22] <nickrud> chris_, I have zero opinion about any of the others though
[06:22] <blanky> darx, if it's pretty empty, try #xgl, there might even be #compiz
[06:22] <Cornellius> Hey gang
[06:22] <nickrud> chris_, the comment out ones
[06:22] <chris_> nickrud looking for games and aplications of some sort and every packge there is what source would i use?
[06:23] <nanotube> FreeNet, it should work normally, only now they won't have to enter "sudo", because rioutil script already has sudo in it.
[06:23] <darx> blanky: #xgl is pretty active.. thanks a lot again
[06:23] <nanotube> FreeNet, still doesnt work? what's the error now?
[06:23] <blanky> darx, no problem
[06:23] <nickrud> chris_, the main ones (the ubuntu ones at the top) have a lot of games & apps, use that list and then use synaptic to look through the packages
[06:23] <keebler3> that didnt work
[06:23] <FreeNet> I got it!
[06:23] <FreeNet> The stupid thing!
[06:24] <nanotube> FreeNet, wait, backtrack, why not just try running "sudo jrioutil" ? that ought to solve the problem?
[06:24] <FreeNet> It was looking in /usr/local/bin
[06:24] <chris_> nickrud how do i edit my source?
[06:24] <keebler3> it found the ethernet connection
[06:24] <FreeNet> nanotube, - no it didnt
[06:24] <chris_> well to get these working
[06:24] <FreeNet> I got it working! YAY!
[06:24] <keebler3> but when i opened up a browser it wouldnt find it
[06:24] <nanotube> FreeNet, oh i see hehe. well it works now, cool :)
[06:24] <nanotube> FreeNet, finally! :)
[06:24] <FreeNet> just for future reference, tell people to cp /usr/bin/rioutil into /usr/local/bin/rioutil
[06:25] <FreeNet> I don't think that was the only problem, but it works now
[06:25] <chris_> nickrud how do i use these howdo i make these sources active :P
[06:25] <FreeNet> hmm, I tried downloading a gnome theme and I cant figure out how to install it
[06:25] <FreeNet> is gtk2 == gnome ?
[06:25] <nickrud> chris_, type in a terminal: sudo cd /etc/apt && sudo cp sources.list sources.list.beforeImuckedabout && sudo gksudo "gedit sources.list" . Then delete everything in sources.list, and copy and paste from the text box at the bottom of the web page into gedit. save & close, then type sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <chris_> ok thanks nickrud ! ;)
[06:26] <chris_> :)
[06:26] <keebler3> can someone help me
[06:26] <gigaclon> is there a way to list the packages that aren't not depended on by any installed package?
[06:27] <keebler3> i connected my dsl modem using the ethernet connection and it finds it
[06:27] <keebler3> but i still cant get on the internet
[06:27] <mininet> gtk2 is a framework for display GUIS (I think :-p) xfce uses it
[06:27] <chris_> nickrud just copy and paste the oragne box?
[06:27] <chris_> or white?
[06:27] <nickrud> white
[06:27] <chris_> ok thanks :)
[06:27] <francesjan> hello... i changed my totem-gstreamer to totem-xine.... totem-xine has problem loading.... on other computers it's okay. what could be the reason for this?
[06:27] <FreeNet> I went to gnome-look.org for themes, and that's all they've got.
[06:28] <nanotube> FreeNet, yes, gnome uses gtk2, so gtk2 themes should work on gnome
[06:28] <nickrud> FreeNet, download it to the desktop, then open system-prefs-themes, and drag the theme from the desktop to the theme window
[06:28] <nanotube> FreeNet, gtk2 is basically a widget set (buttons and crap) that gnome and other things use.
[06:28] <chris_> chris@chris-laptop:~$  sudo cd /etc/apt
[06:28] <chris_> sudo: cd: command not found
[06:28] <chris_> :P
[06:29] <FreeNet> it had two folders in it meta-city, and gtk-2.0
[06:29] <chris_> nickrud!
[06:29] <chris_> ;)
[06:29] <gigaclon> you should be able to cd without sudo
[06:29] <nickrud> Chri[s] , erm, drop the sudo there (goes to fix his text replace)
[06:29] <blanky> !mp3
[06:29] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:29] <fouts> is there a cvs repository or some such for ubuntu sources on the web?
[06:29] <gkelly> Is there any way to force the 6.06 installer to not enter into "Low Memory Mode"?
[06:29] <chris_> ok will try without cd
[06:29] <chris_> or sudo
[06:29] <chris_> ha
[06:30] <keebler3> can someone help me
[06:30] <gigaclon> no
[06:30] <chris_> got it ;)
[06:30] <gigaclon> sorry
[06:30] <gigaclon> we can't
[06:30] <gigaclon> until you tell us the problem
[06:30] <nickrud> Some_One isn't here tonight
[06:30] <keebler3> i just did
[06:30] <FreeNet> hmm
[06:30] <FreeNet> just copying the folder over doesn't work
[06:30] <keebler3> i connected my dsl modem using the ethernet connection and it finds it
[06:30] <keebler3>  but i still cant get on the internet
[06:31] <keebler3> the connection is active
[06:31] <Healot> really?
[06:31] <FreeNet> keebler, can you ping any other machines on your network ?
[06:31] <nickrud> FreeNet, the new gtk them will be under the details button, controls tab
[06:31] <krazykit> keebler3: is it a dns issue perhaps?
[06:31] <FreeNet> nickrud, it's giving an invalid file format error
[06:31] <keebler3> im not sure
[06:31] <chris_> nickrud just delte everything on the screen ?
[06:31] <krazykit> keebler3: see if you can't reach 72.14.207.99   which is google
[06:31] <chris_> and replace it?
[06:31] <nickrud> FreeNet, grr, I get that often from that site
[06:31] <keebler3> i cant
[06:32] <nickrud> chris_, did you make the muckabout backup?
[06:32] <francesjan> hello... i changed my totem-gstreamer to totem-xine.... totem-xine has problem loading.... on other computers it's okay. what could be the reason for this?
[06:32] <dr_willis> :P
[06:32] <dead|shell> hello all
[06:32] <Cornellius> !compiz
[06:32] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[06:32] <francesjan> keebler, what does ifconfig gives you?
[06:32] <Cornellius> !xgl
[06:32] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:32] <chris_> nickrud i juse did what u said
[06:32] <chris_> :P
[06:32] <keebler3> how do i get it to use the ethernet connection
[06:32] <dead|shell> does anyone know a good app for getting pics from a digital camera
[06:32] <gkelly> Does anyone know if there's a way to force the installer to not enter into "Low Memory Mode"? (On either the regular install disc or the alternate install disc)
[06:32] <Madpilot> dead|shell, gThumb
[06:32] <nickrud> dr_willis, I went so far as making my own icon theme when tango was only blue folders ;P
[06:32] <spikeb> dead|shell: f-spot or digicam
[06:33] <Ademan> is cabextract in the repositories?
[06:33] <mininet> keebler does your modem provide dhcp? or are you using a static IP
[06:33] <chris_> chris_, type in a terminal: sudo cd /etc/apt && sudo cp sources.list sources.list.beforeImuckedabout && sudo gksudo "gedit sources.list" . Then delete everything in sources.list, and copy and paste from the text box at the bottom of the web page into gedit. save & close, then type sudo apt-get update
[06:33] <Cornellius> !midi
[06:33] <ubotu> [midi]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:33] <nickrud> chris_, then yes, now you can delete everything in gedit and replace it from the website
[06:33] <FreeNet> lol that's 2 so far
[06:33] <krazykit> Ademan: in universe
[06:33] <dr_willis> nickrud,  id worked on a 'butt' theme from my.. err.. collection of err.. wallpaper.. :P
[06:33] <keebler3> dhcp
[06:33] <m82> hello, everyone..
[06:33] <chris_> thanks nickrud :)
[06:33] <keebler3> the modem is working
[06:33] <Ademan> thanks krazykit
[06:33] <nickrud> dr_willis
[06:33] <keebler3> but the computer isnt using it
[06:33] <Cornellius> How do you know it's working ?
[06:34] <keebler3> it says active
[06:34] <dr_willis> nickrud,  :P from ages ago.. now i need to make them svg icons!
[06:34] <nickrud> i lose again. baaad night ;)
[06:34] <mininet> (dumb question) you have set your network card to dhcp right
[06:34] <gigaclon> when starting Azureus, I get a pop-up from the program that won't go away
[06:34] <keebler3> yes
[06:34] <Cornellius> keebler:  Using which WM ?
[06:34] <Cornellius> keebler:  So you're on dial-up ?
[06:34] <calisee> !ati
[06:34] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:34] <dr_willis> gigaclon,  yep.. seen that as well.. i gave up on azureus.
[06:34] <francesjan> help!!!!... xine couldn't find demux plugin > cdrom <   .... ? :(
[06:34] <keebler3> no
[06:34] <keebler3> its a dsl modem
[06:34] <dead|shell> thanks !
[06:34] <Cornellius> Ah ok
[06:34] <FreeNet> anyone here know how to get a custom toolbar across the top of the screen? (For access to most used apps and etc) ?
[06:34] <keebler3> connecting through an ethernet
[06:34] <Cornellius> nvm
[06:34] <dead|shell> i'll try em both
[06:35] <gigaclon> I think it has to do with the lastest version of swt
[06:35] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  just add a new panel and add whatever icons ya want - is one way
[06:35] <FreeNet> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24229
[06:35] <FreeNet> like the one he's got in that screenshot
[06:35] <gigaclon> before my reinstalled, it said it need upgrading to swt I would download it and it would never install
[06:35] <crimsun_> TheoMurpse: did you install xlibs from breezy-security like I said?
[06:35] <nickrud> FreeNet, right click an app in the menu, and select add to panel
[06:36] <m82> I'm trying to get DRI enable for  my thinkpad t21 I follow the instrution made by arnnie if i probably spell his username incorrectly..anyways, I get an error when I try install savage package "erro: kernel modules did not compile" do I have latest kernel when I install ubuntu 6.0.6
[06:36] <mininet> keebler is your modem giving you a IP?
[06:36] <keebler3> yes
[06:36] <FreeNet> now that's the third damn theme that's had an invalid file format
[06:36] <mininet> are there any other computers on the modem?
[06:36] <mininet> if so can you ping them
[06:36] <keebler3> well its meant for the computer im on which is running xp
[06:37] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  ya may want tro read up on the theme faq/docs..  ive always just drug/dropped them to the theme control panel
[06:37] <chris_> anyone here have the best sources!? :) to add to my collection that i dont know about
[06:37] <chris_> :)
[06:37] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  or it coule be they need to be uncompressed first
[06:37] <monoman> Hey why can't QTParted find my hard disk?
[06:37] <monoman> How do I run as root?
[06:37] <FreeNet> dr_willis, - that's what i've been doing. It says invalid file format
[06:37] <mininet> are you using a crossover cable from the modem direct to your network card then?
[06:37] <calisee> monoman use sudo
[06:37] <DBO> chris_, stick with the official repos unless you have a good reason to add a 3rd party one
[06:37] <keebler3> yes
[06:37] <TheoMurpse> crimsun_: Would those be the ones in synaptic package manager? Or would there be new ones for Dapper Drake?
[06:37] <keebler3> or it might not be crossover
[06:38] <keebler3> its whatever came with the modem
[06:38] <peanutb> what is the best terminal irc client?
[06:38] <chris_> DBO your back! :)
[06:38] <mininet> can you ping the modem which should be your gateway
[06:38] <monoman> sudo what?
[06:38] <dr_willis> peanutb,  terms like 'best' are always very very 'relative'
[06:38] <keebler3> hang on
[06:38] <dr_willis> peanutb,  i would suggest trying irssi, and  check freshmeat.net for other console/text based irc clients
[06:39] <FreeNet> dr_willis, every time I drag and drop the theme, I get an invalid file format error
[06:39] <peanutb> dr_willis, ok thanks
[06:39] <keebler3> no
[06:39] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  uncompress the theme file first
[06:39] <FreeNet> already did
[06:39] <TheoMurpse> crimsun_: Also, I coudln't find xlibs, only xlibs-dev. Is this what I need to do?
[06:39] <FreeNet> gives me two dirs. meta-city and gtk-2.0
[06:39] <crimsun_> TheoMurpse: no.
[06:39] <monoman> How do I run as root? What is the whole command?
[06:39] <troy_s> ubotu, tell peanutb about better
[06:39] <FreeNet> neither drag and drop
[06:39] <nanotube> monoman, look at what ubotu has to say about sudo:
[06:39] <nanotube> !sudo
[06:39] <ubotu> methinks sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:39] <mininet> is the light lit on your network card on your linux box
[06:40] <monoman> thx cham
[06:40] <monoman> p
[06:40] <keebler3> yes
[06:40] <keebler3> its working
[06:40] <crimsun_> TheoMurpse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fx%2Fxorg%2Fxlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb&md5sum=5494fd607f744a9c9441fd22b9cb0042&arch=all&type=security
[06:40] <dr_willis> FreeNet,   one is a theme for the window manager, the other is a gtk2 theme.  - not in gnome, so i cant walk ya through anything.
[06:40] <keebler3> but when i open a browser its not using it
[06:40] <fouts> failing that, does anyone know how to get hold of the config file that was used to build a particular kernel? cuz the one that's installed with 2.6.15.23-686 sure wasn't used to configure it
[06:40] <nanotube> monoman, so to run qtparted with sudo, just run command "sudo qtparted", for example
[06:40] <Bassetts> morning all
[06:40] <keebler3> how would i get it to use the connection
[06:40] <monoman> thanks a bunch Nano =)
[06:41] <nanotube> monoman, no prob :)
[06:41] <nanotube> Bassetts, morning eh. ;)
[06:41] <mininet> what is the IP that it gave u
[06:41] <Bassetts> =) its 5:41am here nanotube
[06:41] <keebler3> nothing
[06:41] <odat> what the hell is with the new gdm
[06:42] <chris_> DBO on dapper ;) think i can manage to get my apache2, proftpd going ? :)
[06:42] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  you do relize theres proberly several dozen themes you can apt-get install, or use synaptic to install. :)
[06:42] <keebler3> gave me an error
[06:42] <nanotube> Bassetts, heh, only 00.43 am here. where are you at?
[06:42] <Bassetts> UK, you?
[06:42] <mininet> what kind of error message
[06:42] <chris_> i think so i managed to backup all the etc files
[06:42] <keebler3> idk i closed the terminal
[06:42] <FreeNet> dr_willis, i'm looking for dark colored ones. Black or very dark grey
[06:42] <crimsun_> odat: ...?
[06:42] <leonassan> Hello! Brandy n00b ubuntu user here :)
[06:42] <nanotube> Bassetts, US
[06:42] <keebler3> how would i configure an external modem with an ethernet connection
[06:43] <pschulz01> How can I transfer packages to a machine without network access, but still using apt?
[06:43] <odat> crimsun_, why is it asking me for a password for automatic login when i start up now
[06:43] <Bassetts> what state nanotube?
[06:43] <TheoMurpse> crimsun_: Thanks for the URL and the help. I got xlibs from there and now have Opera 9b2 running. Thanks a bunch!
[06:43] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  good luck there.. any time ive tried to use one like that.. it always had conflucts with other programs/issues.. You can set your colors for the themes you are using.
[06:43] <nanotube> Bassetts, PA (philly area)
[06:43] <crimsun_> TheoMurpse: np
[06:43] <mininet> are you using a different internet connection on the computer you are use IRC on?
[06:43] <keebler3> no mininet
[06:43] <Bassetts> nanotube: cool, think my uncle has been near there
[06:43] <leonassan> How can I get an FTP server running?
[06:43] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  the whole 'theme' thing under gnome - and kde, and linux in general - is very tweakable.
[06:44] <pschulz01> is it possible just to transfer the contents of '/var/cache/apt'? and run apt-get upgrade (without 'update').
[06:44] <nanotube> Bassetts, heh, the nearest i've been to UK is Paris ;)
[06:44] <FreeNet> dr_willis, takes alot of time and patience to get it right. I'd rather just installe one that's already done
[06:44] <monoman> Ok so I have a Ubuntu Partition a Xp Partition and a fat 32 partition is there a howto to get the fat 32 to be visible by both?
[06:44] <keebler3> how would i configure an external modem with an ethernet connection
[06:44] <odat> crimsun_, any idea?
[06:44] <dr_willis> FreeNet,  how would ya know. :P ya cant even get any others installed. Lol.. but have fun.
[06:44] <FreeNet> but apparently that's not going to work
[06:44] <nanotube> monoman, the fat32 will be automatically showing up in mycomputer in xp, for ubuntu, you have to mount it (add the entry into fstab)
[06:44] <crimsun_> odat: I'm not at a place where I can test the new gdm.
[06:44] <_cuTe_> kfkfkf
[06:44] <MojOrow> I'm using ubuntu and I am doing my homework with it... Does anyone know where I can get the structure of a REPORT-STYLE document?
[06:45] <dr_willis> good luck -  Night .
[06:45] <mininet> keebler if you login to  your modems managment software does it show an error or that it tried to give your computer an IP address
[06:45] <_cuTe_> jjj
[06:45] <MojOrow> sry but i am lost
[06:45] <monoman> fstab
[06:45] <monoman> hmm
[06:45] <nanotube> MojOrow, what kinda report? :)
[06:45] <keebler3> how do i do that
[06:45] <_cuTe_> mjjmmk,kl
[06:45] <_cuTe_> jkj,lllllhgjyitreyo
[06:45] <varsendaggr> hey i want to run an app with wine   so that it can access an outside server  does anyone know how to do this?
[06:45] <pschulz01> Hmm.. looks like I also need '/var/lib/apt/lists as well.
[06:45] <nanotube> monoman, here is a link for tutorials for editing fstab: http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Forums_FAQ  go to the question about accessing windows partitinos
[06:46] <monoman> Your a pro nano thanks =)
[06:46] <Locke_> NOOOO
[06:46] <_cuTe_> mgjgfkljrgpgj;gdjds;lji'jrghroyhe;hupre
[06:46] <Tedd> Locke_, what aer you vaderscreaming at
[06:46] <mininet> use the computer that seems to have a working connection to your modem goto http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 it should be one of those
[06:46] <nanotube> monoman, have fun :)
[06:46] <_cuTe_> h rguh @@(kjjkljN)lldrkmrkj;lr
[06:46] <Locke_> i had my client pick up a laptop hard drive to replace theirs, and now that i have it here, the laptop needs ata - 4, and hte replacement is ata - 6
[06:46] <leonassan> I'm sorry to ask again, but I think it might have gotten missed. I want to set up an FTP server on my Ubuntu install, how do I do that?
[06:47] <nanotube> !ftpd
[06:47] <ubotu> Breezy has the following ftp daemons available from the universe/multiverse repos: ftpd proftpd pure-ftpd twoftpd vsftpd
[06:47] <troy_s> leonassan:  ditch ftp use ssh
[06:47] <troy_s> leonassan:  more secure and far superior in a number of ways.
[06:47] <mininet> keebler what does (ip addr) return to u
[06:47] <nanotube> leonassan, but troy_s is right, better to use ssh. :)
[06:47] <Locke_> whats better about ssh
[06:47] <leonassan> Not really an option, I actually have been running a windows webserver for quite some time and the people I host use FTP to upload their sites..
[06:48] <nanotube> Locke_, it's secure (encrypted channel)
[06:48] <troy_s> Locke_: Just about everything.  Security.  Versatility.  Flexibility. Etc.
[06:48] <Locke_> why does it matter for the ubuntu install
[06:48] <nanotube> leonassan, well, since it's your server, you can jsut tell the people to use sftp instead of ftp :)
[06:48] <leonassan> However, when my primary harddisk died I decided to give ubuntu a try
[06:48] <uXp> what is a nice fast ftp?
[06:48] <nanotube> leonassan, but anyway, if you really want ftp, just use any one of the ftp daemons. check out the list:
[06:48] <nanotube> !ftpd
[06:48] <ubotu> Breezy has the following ftp daemons available from the universe/multiverse repos: ftpd proftpd pure-ftpd twoftpd vsftpd
[06:48] <leonassan> I installed vsftpd but I can't figure out how to configure it..
[06:48] <Cornellius> uXp:  Fto what ?
[06:48] <troy_s> Locke_: Because ssh does everything and it does it well, you don't need anything else.  Further it is _simple_ as hell to setup.
[06:48] <Cornellius> uXp:  Client, Server ?
[06:48] <uXp> FTP
[06:49] <uXp> no website FTP
[06:49] <_cuTe_> jghghgjk
[06:49] <leonassan> Something with a GUI configuration would be idea.
[06:49] <Locke_> troy_s: isnt ftp simpler still though?
[06:49] <leonassan> *ideal
[06:49] <nanotube> Locke_, because ftp sends things through plaintext, so anyone can snoop your password when you log in through ftp.
[06:49] <troy_s> Locke_: Nope.  Try ssh and you will see.
[06:49] <_cuTe_> jhgjhgjhg
[06:49] <leonassan> <--- N00b.
[06:49] <_cuTe_> hhhhhhhhh
[06:49] <Cornellius> I myself like gFTP
[06:49] <_cuTe_> hhh
[06:49] <_cuTe_> jj
[06:49] <Locke_> nanotube: but to download from the ubuntu server it really doesnt matter though does it?
[06:49] <troy_s> Locke_: There is sftp which is basically secure ftp for ftp purists that uses the sshd, then there is scp, and a plethora of other useful tools.
[06:49] <_cuTe_> j
[06:49] <nanotube> leonassan, i don't have an ftp server set up myself (ssh is good for me :) ), but i've heard that pure-ftpd is pretty decent. don't know if it has a gui though...
[06:50] <Locke_> so just for the peace of mind
[06:50] <troy_s> Locke_: One port.  No waiting.  Set it up and don't panic about vulnerabilities too much.
[06:50] <leonassan> Also, a lot of the applications that I'm seeing listed in chat I can't find under add/remove
[06:50] <troy_s> Locke_: To give you an idea, there has been ONE remote exploit in OpenBSDs default toolset, and guess where it was?  ftpd.  :)
[06:50] <Locke_> hm
[06:50] <nanotube> Locke_, well, if the download does not require authentication, then no. it only matters for authentication purposes, or if the data you are downloading is private.
[06:50] <leonassan> To get apache/perl/php installed I had to hit the advanced button
[06:50] <Locke_> i uninstalled x-chat and now it doesnt appear in the list
[06:50] <drako> Which is the "super key" ?
[06:50] <Locke_> im running x-chat - gnome right now
[06:50] <Locke_> but i hate it
[06:51] <varsendaggr> Locke_, are you instane?
[06:51] <varsendaggr> insane?
[06:51] <troy_s> nanotube: Not really... exploitation value alone is worth using ssh, then you can stack on it's other useful features.
[06:51] <Locke_> nono
[06:51] <Locke_> gnome version sucks arse
[06:51] <varsendaggr> i don't know waht instane is
[06:51] <Locke_> x-chat regular ver is what i want
[06:51] <Locke_> i hate this channel bar and the dumbed down commands
[06:51] <Locke_> and i need multiple servers
[06:51] <nanotube> troy_s, well, he was saying for downloading from other ubuntu servers. if it's someone else's server, then the exploitation value does not matter to him. :) but maybe i misunderstood what he was asking...
[06:52] <nickrud> Locke_, it's in universe
[06:52] <leonassan> So Gftp is good?
[06:52] <leonassan> !ftp
[06:52] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[06:52] <varsendaggr> hey does anyont know how to let wine launch firefox
[06:52] <Healot> gftp is GOD's FTP :)
[06:52] <Locke_> i know, but it disappeared from my synaptic since i uninstalled it
[06:52] <nanotube> leonassan, gftp is just an ftp CLIENT, not server
[06:52] <drako> Which is the "super key" ?
[06:52] <leonassan> Hm.
[06:52] <troy_s> nanotube: I would think that most of Ubuntu's servers use ssh etc for their communication.
[06:52] <nanotube> drako, thats the "windows" key :)
[06:52] <Locke_> how do i get it back
[06:52] <leonassan> Sorry for the slowness on the uptake.
[06:52] <Locke_> i could compile it andstuff but im trying not to do that
[06:52] <leonassan> Ok, let me get this square, SSH can be used for FTP?
[06:52] <nanotube> troy_s, i'd think so too
[06:52] <troy_s> nanotube:  But I may be incorrect on that... I know most of the cvs and such is tunneled through ssh.
[06:53] <nanotube> leonassan, yes, it can be used for file transfer just as regular ftp. you just need to have an sftp-capable client.
[06:53] <troy_s> leonassan: It can be used to transfer files, share files, remotely connect to a box, remotely display x apps, etc.
[06:53] <nickrud> varsendaggr, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Shockwave has some info about it
[06:53] <leonassan> My brain is pudding after the 23 hour backup process when the harddisk failed
[06:53] <drako> nanotube, thank you =)
[06:53] <troy_s> leonassan: And pretty much anything else you want it to do.
[06:53] <nanotube> drako, no prob ;)
[06:53] <leonassan> I will NEVER back up 60 gigs to a USB drive again.
[06:53] <varsendaggr> nickrud, cool
[06:53] <Locke_> LOL
[06:54] <troy_s> leonassan: It will do just about anything you want all over one simple port with one simple command to get it up and running.
[06:54] <nanotube> leonassan, at least not if it's a USB1 drive :)
[06:54] <Healot> heard the news yet
[06:54] <troy_s> leonassan: You should try an 8 track tape backup system.
[06:54] <troy_s> laf.
[06:54] <Locke_> haha
[06:54] <nanotube> troy_s, it's true, increasingly most things are moving over to ssh. it's just the right thing to do. ;)
[06:54] <leonassan> It might be faster
[06:54] <leonassan> And yes, it was usb1
[06:54] <nanotube> leonassan, heh, that explains it
[06:54] <troy_s> leonassan: True, but you will get those annoying gaps in between songs.  laf.
[06:55] <varsendaggr> nickrud, hey i the reall problem that i am having is i want to run a windows program that connects to a server and wine won't let me do that
[06:55] <leonassan> My poor little server's been through a lot in her life :) she was actually only recently retired from double duty as my gaming machine AND server
[06:55] <nanotube> leonassan, heh, that's some pretty heavy double duty there.
[06:55] <leonassan> She did a good job
[06:55] <troy_s> Healot: heard the news yet -- what news?
[06:55] <sloncho> hi. LVM2 question. I'm trying to replace existing SUSE install, which has some LVM2 groups and volumes. I started the alternative install of DD, and reached the partitioner. There I read the existing LVM groups and they are shown. The problem is, that I have a volume group, which I want to set to be mounted as /data, but without reformat. How should I proceed.
[06:56] <sloncho> also, i have some other LGs, which are prepared to holed /home, /var, /usr, etc. How do I set their mounting point as well
[06:56] <leonassan> Ok, when I do a package search for FTPD under package manager-> advanced.. I get vsftpd and tftpd... shouldn't there be more there?
[06:57] <nickrud> varsendaggr, you're not gonna get wine help from me. I got drunk on that once and swore it off.
[06:57] <varsendaggr> ha ha ha
[06:57] <nanotube> sloncho, well, i am by no means familiar with lvm, but it might be the easiest to just ignore than volume group, and configure it to mount after you have installed the os...
[06:57] <varsendaggr> really
[06:57] <varsendaggr> i really want to blay my xbox on my machine
[06:57] <FreeNet> so there are no other toolbars you can get that hover over all windows ?
[06:57] <varsendaggr> and i need that dumb program
[06:58] <nanotube> leonassan, are you running the synaptic package manager?
[06:58] <leonassan> yes
[06:58] <leonassan> I have two windows open right now, freenode: #ubuntu and the package manager
[06:58] <sloncho> nanotube,  ihave only 1G root (/), I want /opt and /usr to be on LVM, so I can extend if I need to
[06:58] <nanotube> leonassan, did you enable the multiverse and universe repos?
[06:58] <stevejesus> still no go
[06:58] <leonassan> I don't know how to do that.. care to explain?
[06:58] <FreeNet> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m24229-1.png
[06:58] <FreeNet> like the one that guy is using
[06:58] <sloncho> so, i can not continue the install, 1G for root is not enough
[06:58] <nanotube> sloncho, ah i see... well then i don't know. sorry :)
[06:59] <mininet> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m24229-1.png
[06:59] <nanotube> sloncho, i would think there is some way to use a volume but not partition it... but i have only used the ubuntu install process once, when i installed breezy, so i can't tell you any specifics ;)
[06:59] <stevejesus> why would ubuntu see my 3 displays in such a manner.  it sees my geforce 2 with one monitor connect as having 2 monitors and my geforce 5600 as having 1 monitor while 2 are physically connected
[07:00] <rverrips> Hiyeee - Quick question, I installed network-manager-gnome onto my xubuntu, and the nm-applet loads twice upon startup of my session?  Where can I remove the extra one?
[07:00] <varsendaggr> stevejesus, because you haven't configured it
[07:00] <nanotube> leonassan, from menu, select settings>repositories (or something similar), and then check the universe and multiverse checkboxes
[07:00] <nanotube> leonassan, or as an alternative, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list file directly. (btw, just for the record, you running dapper or breezy?)
[07:00] <stevejesus> varsendaggr, any suggestions?  i have been trying to configure it for an hour thus far
[07:01] <varsendaggr> stevejesus, just a sec
[07:01] <sloncho> nanotube - the problem is that it allows me to re-format a group/partition, but I can not set mount point
[07:01] <stevejesus> varsendaggr, thank you
[07:01] <leonassan> Erm.. I'm running whatever the version I just downloaded is, let me look
[07:01] <sloncho> nanotube, anyway, the only data i need to keep from the old install is on separate lg, so I'll try the re-format to see if it has an entry for mount point
[07:02] <leonassan> Dapper
[07:02] <nanotube> sloncho, hmm, well, i am out of my depth here, so anything i have said should be taken with a large grain of salt...
[07:02] <nanotube> leonassan, ok. i'm doing breezy, so the exact menu options may be different for you.
[07:02] <sloncho> nanotube, looks like i'll need more water :)
[07:02] <nanotube> leonassan, but anyway, so have you found the universe and multiverse checkboxes?
[07:02] <nanotube> sloncho, haha :)
[07:03] <leonassan> It's ok, I may be clueless, but it's a matter of ignorance, not a lack of intelligence, yes, it's checked and I have LOTS more options now
[07:03] <nanotube> leonassan, cool :) hey, we all go through it at first. slowly the cluelessness dissolves away. somewhat. :)
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> what file is this command output? xmodmap -pke ?
[07:03] <leonassan> I'll figure it out, just a whole new OS and way of thinking
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> I need to alter it..
[07:04] <stevejesus> this is so frustrating.  i hate to waste all this energy when only on display is up at a time...  ha, i suppose i could keep turning them on and off...
[07:04] <varsendaggr> stevejesus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo?action=show&redirect=DualMonitors
[07:04] <leonassan> Basically, my goal is a webserver with FTP access, MySQL, Perl, and PHP
[07:05] <Krhis> LAMP?
[07:05] <stevejesus> varsendaggr, thank you.  hopefully this will aid me in having THREE displays...
[07:05] <hikikomori> hi
[07:05] <nanotube> Krhis, more like LAMPPF it seems :)
[07:05] <leonassan> Lamp?
[07:05] <Krhis> lol
[07:05] <cdubya> heh
[07:05] <hikikomori>  i have jre installed in my computer , i can see java applications with this, but i also would like to see java applets
[07:05] <varsendaggr> i hope so that is cool
[07:05] <hikikomori> how can i do?
[07:05] <nanotube> leonassan, lamp is the std abbrev for "linux, apache, mysql, php" since its such a frequent server config
[07:06] <Krhis> LAMP: Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP.
[07:06] <leonassan> Well, here's the skinny, a website I really love is going down (iwuvaard.org) and they open-sourced the whole database.. and I want to host it
[07:06] <chris_> i think downloading 4gbs of games is crazii but what to do with 60gbs :P
[07:06] <leonassan> And it requires MySQL and PHP
[07:06] <noiesmo> !lamp
[07:06] <leonassan> Something I barely could figure out with phpbb under windows, and when my hard drive failed I figured "Why not try linux"
[07:06] <chris_> will php help my apache?
[07:06] <nanotube> leonassan, ah. well, there should be some howto tutorials on the ubuntuforums, search for lamp.
[07:06] <leonassan> But when I had a choice between the server install and the desktop install, I was told to go desktop..
[07:06] <nanotube> !lamp
[07:06] <hikikomori> hi?
[07:07] <chris_> DBO do i need php for my apache?
[07:07] <nanotube> noiesmo, looks like ubotu is dead
[07:07] <nanotube> hikikomori, ahoy :)
[07:07] <blanky> !tell leonassan about lamp
[07:07] <hikikomori> hi nanotube
[07:07] <DBO> chris_, are you using php to code your website?
[07:07] <blanky> hi hikikomori
[07:07] <cdubya> chris_, if you want to serve up php, yes
[07:07] <nanotube> chris_, only if you need php for your webpages.
[07:07] <hikikomori> can anybody give me a hint?
[07:07] <blanky> leonassan, even if you chose desktop you can still install LAMP and run a server
[07:07] <chris_> well got 4 hours left of downloading 4gbs of games :/
[07:08] <hikikomori> i jre installed on my computer , but i only can see java applications, i would like to see java applets too... how can i do this?
[07:08] <blanky> server installation is for actual server usage, as in, if you wouldn't use your pc
[07:08] <chris_> what would i do to get it going?
[07:08] <chris_> i know open the ports
[07:08] <blanky> hikikomori, firefox-plugin
[07:08] <leonassan> Hm.. will installing lamp undo anything stupid I've already done? Cause I installed about 50 packages manually trying to make it work
[07:08] <blanky> !tell hikikomori about java
[07:08] <odat> what happened to GDM automatic login
[07:08] <DBO> !tell chris_ abotu lamp
[07:08] <odat> it sucks ass
[07:08] <concept10> chris_, thanks for letting us know what you do
[07:08] <nanotube> !restrictedformats
[07:08] <ubotu> see !restricted
[07:08] <DBO> !tell chris_ about lamp
[07:08] <nanotube> !restricted
[07:08] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[07:08] <Kaja> hikikomori, install the browser plug-in too =)
[07:08] <Madpilot> leonassan, it shouldn't, assuming you've been pulling stuff in from the Ubuntu repos
[07:08] <hikikomori> where can i download the browser plugin?
[07:08] <nanotube> hikikomori, check the restrictedformats page. it will tell you where to find the browser plugin
[07:09] <leonassan> I have been, I don't know enough to do anything strange yet
[07:09] <hikikomori> restrictedformants? where?
[07:09] <nanotube> hikikomori, i think it may even be in the repositories. search synaptic for java, and see if anything like java-plugin comes up
[07:09] <blanky> hey guys, now that there's more smart people on :P, how can I force apt-get to get killed (ROFL), watch
[07:09] <blanky> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:09] <blanky> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:09] <odat> what happened to GDM automatic login
[07:09] <hikikomori> oh
[07:09] <hikikomori> i just noticed
[07:09] <hikikomori> thanx
[07:09] <roostishaw> how do i compile an sh file so that the user cant view the source code?
[07:09] <nanotube> hikikomori, :)
[07:09] <blanky> roostishaw, never heard of that
[07:09] <Madpilot> roostishaw, afaik sh files aren't compilable - they're just scripts
[07:09] <varsendaggr> roostishaw, get out of here    this is opensource
[07:09] <leonassan> I'll go read up on lamp and get back with ya :)
[07:10] <blanky> roostishaw, obfuscate the code, even then i think that's pretty weird
[07:10] <blanky> LOL varsendaggr
[07:10] <roostishaw> :D  well, im new to bash.linux, so i was just wondering
[07:10] <blanky> chris_, leave
[07:10] <troy_s> roostishaw:  um put the GPL on it and let everyone use it.
[07:10] <odat> what happened to GDM automatic login
[07:10] <blanky> chris_, just playing, just be happy :)
[07:10] <varsendaggr> roostishaw, i was just kidding
[07:10] <Madpilot> leonassan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:10] <roostishaw> :D
[07:10] <nanotube> roostishaw, can't be done. if you want compilation, make it a c file :)
[07:10] <chris_> blanky thanks :)
[07:10] <nanotube> roostishaw, or you can just change permissions so that it is executable, but not readable
[07:10] <blanky> hey wouldn't a GPL virus be funny, one that prepends the GPL license to every source file in the computer, that'd cause some chaos
[07:11] <odat> what happened to GDM automatic login
[07:11] <roostishaw> so... is there a way to convert a bash script to a c script so i can hide the sourcce?
[07:11] <roostishaw> or something...  :D
[07:11] <nanotube> blanky, it would be even funnier if it prepended it to every binary, too :)
[07:11] <blanky> roostishaw, obfuscate it
[07:11] <Madpilot> odat, why are you repeating every 30 seconds?
[07:11] <blanky> nanotube, haha
[07:11] <troy_s> roostishaw:  the better question is figureing out just what you are trying to do.
[07:11] <chris_> i help people switch ;) got my ubuntu notes on my live journal http://hotsaucenlife.livejournal.com
[07:11] <leonassan> Erm, Lamp isn't an automated install process?
[07:11] <odat> Madpilot, cuz i'm pissed
[07:11] <nanotube> roostishaw, you have to rewrite it in C yourself
[07:11] <cdubya> yeah, what are you trying to do roostishaw?
[07:11] <troy_s> odat: you shouldn't bit.
[07:11] <troy_s> odat: be even.
[07:11] <nanotube> roostishaw, but depending on what you want to accomplish, you could just run a chmod and make it unreadable
[07:11] <blanky> leonassan, don't think so
[07:11] <chris_> feel free to write commentts :)
[07:11] <roostishaw> troy_s, im trying to make it so that when i sent the script to a friend, he can run it but not view the source
[07:11] <Madpilot> odat, spamming the channel isn't going to encourage people to help you...
[07:12] <odat> troy_s, oh no why is that
[07:12] <blanky> leonassan, just follow the instructions on the wiki, how easier can it get
[07:12] <troy_s> roostishaw: that's not so smart.
[07:12] <nanotube> roostishaw, ah, well, that's not possible. sorry
[07:12] <leonassan> Heh, Just nervous, (and tired)
[07:12] <troy_s> odat: because your insecurity is everyone's insecurity.
[07:12] <monoman> Why don't I have the command unmount?
[07:12] <odat> troy_s, oh please
[07:12] <Bassetts> what is a good rss news reader?
[07:12] <cdubya> leonassan, do you have apache installed?
[07:12] <nanotube> monoman, command is "umount"
[07:12] <Madpilot> leonassan, it can be, you can install the lamp stuff in an existing Linux install too, though
[07:12] <monoman> ahhhh!
[07:12] <leonassan> Yes
[07:12] <nanotube> monoman, not "unmount" (notice, no n)
[07:12] <nanotube> monoman, :)
[07:12] <monoman> Funny how we read things
[07:12] <manuel-guxhaxhi> alguien habla espaol
[07:12] <cdubya> leonassan, sudo apt-get install php5
[07:13] <leonassan> As far as I can tell I have MySQL, Apache, PHP, and PErl installed
[07:13] <troy_s> odat: Oh please me.  God knows that the net is clogged up enough thanks to little security issues that amount to massive ugliness.
[07:13] <Madpilot> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <leonassan> Do I do that in a terminal window?
[07:13] <blanky> manuel-guxhaxhi, que quieres
[07:13] <manuel-guxhaxhi> blanky
[07:13] <Madpilot> leonassan, have a look at the URL I gave you a minute or two ago
[07:13] <chris_> what do you guys use to chat? xchat?
[07:13] <leonassan> reading over it Madpilot :)
[07:13] <blanky> manuel-guxhaxhi, usualmente puedes agarrar ayuda en #ubuntu-es, pero si no, nomas dime a mi
[07:13] <manuel-guxhaxhi> tengo problemas conn la instalacion de mi nautilus
[07:13] <chris_> IRC related
[07:13] <Madpilot> chris_, yes
[07:13] <noiesmo> xchat here
[07:13] <manuel-guxhaxhi> se trata de esto:
[07:13] <chris_> what cilent?
[07:13] <cdubya> leonassan, yeah, the wiki is really the way to go....it's very helpful
[07:14] <cdubya> gaim here
[07:14] <odat> troy_s, some of us don't have all day unlike you to think about that   i want to turn on my computer in the morning go get my coffee and have it be ready when i sit down
[07:14] <troy_s> chris_: everything from gaim to xchat to blah.
[07:14] <chris_> xchat seems different think breezy bagger
[07:14] <blanky> chris_, xchat since it allows for scripting, I wrote a couple myself :P such as http://www.jorgepena.be/archives/8
[07:14] <troy_s> odat: Maybe if you can't type a logon and a password you should consider using the television.  Seriously, is it THAT big of a deal?
[07:14] <blanky> lol gaim
[07:14] <monoman> What is the purpose of umask nano?
[07:14] <Cornellius> cdubya:  I use gaim too
[07:14] <Bassetts> what is a good rss news reader?
[07:15] <KanRiNiN> nice auth script blanky, is it similar to scripting in mirc?
[07:15] <cdubya> Cornellius, I use it because I can keep everything in one client.....makes it nice.
[07:15] <nanotube> monoman, umask is like the opposite of permissions :) if you set umask to say, 077, then the file permissions will be 700
[07:15] <troy_s> odat: And your rather silly comment is directed at a guy who's average work day is about 14 hours...
[07:15] <Madpilot> odat, so you're saying auto-login is broken somehow in Dapper? I used to use it in Breezy...
[07:15] <chris_> xchat doesn't have the users listed :| now... must be a new version?
[07:15] <cdubya> It was just funny to get ribbed about using it for irc
[07:15] <cdubya> heh
[07:15] <blanky> KanRiNiN, haha it's not nice it's pretty simple and boring, I just did it cause I was lazy to type a couple commands. And I haven't done any in mIrc, sorry :(
[07:15] <chris_> use to xchat on brezzy bagger
[07:15] <Madpilot> chris_, are you using XChat or XChat-gnome?
[07:15] <odat> troy_s, in front of a computer i imagine
[07:15] <chris_> xchat-gnome since i have gnome :)
[07:15] <troy_s> odat:  No, not at all.
[07:15] <Cornellius> cdubya:  I like Kopete better for multi-IMs, but use Kmess or amsn for MSN
[07:16] <Madpilot> chris_, real xchat is still better than xchat-gnome
[07:16] <KanRiNiN> I wish I could get the taskbar plugin to work in xchat-gnome, but it won't minimize to it correctly
[07:16] <odat> Madpilot, it now asks for a password   whats so automatic about that
[07:16] <nanotube> monoman, you can "man umask" and "man chmod" for more details about permissions
[07:16] <chris_> thank you madpiolet
[07:16] <chris_> pilot*
[07:16] <cdubya> eww....I didn't care for kopete much.....tried it out and thought it was a bit klunky.....but hey, to each his own. :)
[07:16] <blanky> KanRiNiN, how doesn't it? when you click the minimize button, it doesn't go to it? that's normal, you have to double click on the taskbar icon to make it minimize/restore
[07:16] <bimberi_> chris_: click on "### Users" at the bottom left
[07:16] <Madpilot> odat, does it? Haven't used it since I updated to Dapper. Checked the bug tracker yet?
[07:16] <odat> troy_s, if it isn't then don't tell me anything about security because you don't know who your talking to or have the right to talk about it
[07:16] <cdubya> Cornellius, that's why I use gaim....I can do all those in one....
[07:16] <troy_s> odat:  You can't turn it on?  Like I said...
[07:17] <Madpilot> odat, and stop sniping at other people, OK?
[07:17] <chris_> ohh i like this xchat gnome now ;) thanks bimberi_
[07:17] <chris_> amazing 800 users ;)
[07:17] <KanRiNiN> blanky: sorry, I was unclear.  I meant minimize in the sense that gaim does to a single icon.
[07:17] <chris_> anyone here say here :P
[07:17] <chris_> here
[07:17] <odat> Madpilot, when you manage as many computers as i do for people that aren't gonna understand why its like this now    it creates massive headaches for me sooo at the moment i'm a little pissed
[07:17] <Cornellius> cdubya:  Yeah, I don'T use Gaim if i'm online ONLY in MSN. Then, I'll use a MSN client only
[07:17] <Madpilot> chris_, when Dapper was new we hit 1000 briefly
[07:17] <Bassetts> geez odat, its not like its anybodys fault from here
[07:17] <nanotube> chris_, it was 950 users just a little bit ago :)
[07:18] <odat> troy_s, you don't even know what i'm talking about
[07:18] <chris_> amazing
[07:18] <cdubya> Cornellius, I spend alot of time in both....so gaim is right up my alley. :)
[07:18] <Cornellius> odat:  Relax and tell your problem
[07:18] <Madpilot> odat, as I said: have you checked the Ubuntu bugtracker, or filed bugs of your own on this?
[07:18] <chris_> :) great comminunity , keep up the good work
[07:18] <monoman> So I unmounted the partition then wrote the fstab file
[07:18] <chris_> i do my work outside IRC :)
[07:18] <blanky> chris_, it's why ubuntu is popular, the community, so stay part of it
[07:18] <skydragon38> my gaim doesnt minimize to my tray anylonger, any ideas?
[07:18] <monoman> then I remounted it using the mount point name instead
[07:18] <chris_> help friends im only 18 :))
[07:18] <monoman> but it still doesn't work
[07:18] <blanky> skydragon38, check if the plugin is activated, you might say 'of course it is', just check again
[07:19] <nanotube> monoman, what does it do when it doesnt work ? :)
[07:19] <graft> skydragon38: it's an option, i think
[07:19] <Cornellius> skydragon38:  Clicked on the X ? It won't close, it will send itself in the task bar
[07:19] <nanotube> monoman, can you cd to that dir, and see the file?
[07:19] <chris_> ;) use everyones advice, DBO's for samba ... great work DBO
[07:19] <KanRiNiN> blanky: that's exactly why I switched from SuSE.  better forum and community support.
[07:19] <Bassetts> odat:  the people in here are very helpful and polite, if you ask nicely you normally get treated nice, but you come in here acting like an ass and blaming people when it isnt their fault i think you should recieve no help at all
[07:19] <chris_> hes a smart guy :) likes coffee!
[07:19] <skydragon38> Cornellius, thats what used to happen, no longer
[07:19] <blanky> tomorrow is Mexico vs. Angola!
[07:19] <terrapen> i'm trying ubuntu after having switched away from Linux in 1996
[07:19] <gutera> someone had a problem with xorg since the last upgrade, i use i810 and my gnome become very slow after the upgrade.
[07:19] <terrapen> this is fun!
[07:19] <blanky> terrapen, lol
[07:19] <KanRiNiN> Yea, I'll be watching
[07:19] <KanRiNiN> Did you see the Korean blowout?
[07:20] <Cornellius> skydragon38:  The an option in the plugin for that I think
[07:20] <cdubya> I left SuSE because it was dog slow. Well, that and my first occasion with Ubuntu made my decision quite easy.
[07:20] <terrapen> Linux has changed a little bit during the last 10 years
[07:20] <KanRiNiN> fantastic plays by the middies
[07:20] <chris_> terrapen how old were you?
[07:20] <Madpilot> terrapen, a lot's happened in 10 years, I imagine ;)
[07:20] <monoman> I can't get to fstab
[07:20] <terrapen> I've been on *BSD
[07:20] <odat> Bassetts, Cornellius automatic login now asks for a password at startup
[07:20] <skydragon38> graft, not an option, at least in the prefs
[07:20] <terrapen> chris, I was 21 at the time
[07:20] <skydragon38> oh
[07:20] <carpediem> anyone know why Beagle would not index my filesystem, even though my preferences tell it to do so?  I'm on ext3, so it's not the reiser xattr issue.
[07:20] <blanky> KanRiNiN, really? I'm for mexico, but angola is pretty cool too, not necessarily good but they're cool, in angola vs. portugal, with those backflip kicks
[07:20] <saik0> !tell KanRiNiN about offtopic
[07:20] <monoman> well I can get into etc
[07:20] <chris_> neat :)
[07:20] <maikol> how do you start a desktop once its installed
[07:20] <terrapen> I started using Linux in early 1994...SLS distro, IIRC
[07:20] <Madpilot> KanRiNiN, blanky, football (soccer) chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[07:20] <Bassetts> odat: i know this, you have told me, i have tried to help you..
[07:20] <graft> skydragon38: there's a 'system tray icon' plugin
[07:20] <blanky> Madpilot, will (not) do
[07:20] <chris_> Revolution_OS_DVD ! great movie ;)
[07:20] <graft> skydragon38: in prefs
[07:20] <blanky> comon guys ask your questions
[07:21] <blanky> chris_, bought or bt?
[07:21] <Bassetts> odat: is it anybodys fault from here though??
[07:21] <chris_> the pirate at the bay ;)
[07:21] <blanky> chris_, no one's seeding it so I havne't gotten it yet lol
[07:21] <terrapen> i had to walk with a stack of floppies to the campus computer lab and download the images and then use rawrite to write them to floppy :)
[07:21] <blanky> chris_, it's active?
[07:21] <chris_> blanky ill post it on my ftp ;)
[07:21] <terrapen> and then, inevitably, some of the floppies would be bad and I'd have to walk back to the lab
[07:21] <chris_> its a divx
[07:21] <blanky> chris_, haha seriously?
[07:21] <chris_> shud be posted tommarow
[07:21] <blanky> chris_, if it's not a hassle it'd be nice, if not then it's okay
[07:21] <chris_> downloading now proftpd along with 4gbs
[07:21] <blanky> chris_, compress it of course haha
[07:21] <terrapen> and to get my CD-ROM working, I had to edit kernel header files to change the I/O port and IRQ assignments :)
[07:22] <chris_> the movie shud be free no laws to send ;)
[07:22] <blanky> terrapen, LOL
[07:22] <chris_> its part of open source :)
[07:22] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get pid? no command found or man entry.......
[07:22] <terrapen> and now, 12 years later, I'm sitting here and Ubuntu tells me that there's a new kernel image available
[07:22] <KanRiNiN> it's already on the newsgroups, if you guys have subscriptions to newshosting
[07:22] <omodo> HAHA, I'm on Ubuntu at last!
[07:22] <terrapen> I'm like, WRF
[07:22] <troy_s> CaptainMorgan: ps -aux
[07:22] <terrapen> err WTF
[07:22] <Bassetts> anyone know of a good rss news reader?
[07:22] <maikol> omodo i know the feeling
[07:22] <cdubya> congrats, omodo!
[07:22] <chris_> Ubuntu stepped up on there installer not binary :))
[07:22] <cdubya> about time
[07:22] <cdubya> heh
[07:22] <nanotube> monoman, fstab is a system file, so you have to use sudo to edit it.
[07:22] <chris_> i love it!
[07:22] <nanotube> !sudo
[07:22] <ubotu> sudo is probably a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:22] <Cornellius> Akregator
[07:22] <monoman> I did
[07:23] <monoman> I did the pico thing
[07:23] <nanotube> monoman, and?
[07:23] <monoman> and added in the line for the 4th partition
[07:23] <monoman> for a fat32 drive
[07:23] <Madpilot> need sleep - night all
[07:23] <cdubya> Bassetts, I used Blam! for a bit....it was simple but worked fine
[07:23] <chris_> i guess saved money on both live and install cds now just 1 cd :)
[07:23] <nanotube> post your line here, monoman
[07:23] <nanotube> monoman, we'll see if it looks right
[07:23] <terrapen> so anyway, I have Ubuntu installed on this laptop...so, why did it talk me into updating to a server kernel (and thus, losing my wireless drivers)?
[07:23] <graft> terrapen: how does ubuntu tell you there's a new kernel image available?
[07:23] <saik0> Bassetts, personally i like the firefox plugin Sage
[07:23] <troy_s> terrapen: What exactly happend?
[07:23] <odat> well i think it stinks for the average user
[07:23] <liquidindian> !fsck
[07:23] <cdubya> terrapen, ouct
[07:23] <maikol> how do you start gnome-desktop once its installed. started from server and working up
[07:23] <cdubya> ouch, even
[07:24] <blanky> WOW
[07:24] <monoman> /dev/sda4       /data           vfat    defaults,iocharset=utf8,umask=0077 0 0
[07:24] <troy_s> terrapen: A new kernel should not dump your wireless drivers.
[07:24] <troy_s> terrapen: And if it did, malone probably has the bug listed.
[07:24] <KanRiNiN> terrapen: do you use ndiswrapper?
[07:24] <KanRiNiN> who makes the chipset
[07:24] <terrapen> graft, the little update manager in Xfce...honestly though, this is all voodoo to me.  I'm from the era where you downloaded kernel patches from Linus's personal server in Finland
[07:24] <graft> a new kernel makes his old drivers obsolete
[07:24] <SurfnKid> i hate going back to windows
[07:24] <SurfnKid> grr
[07:24] <blanky> I never knew you could sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock.bak if apt was killed or if it's in an unclean fashion to make it stop whining!
[07:24] <saik0> maikol, likely "startx" if you want to install the display manager install the gdm package
[07:24] <liquidindian> Um, anyone have any advice on trying to rescue my ubuntu installation from the live CD?
[07:24] <troy_s> liquidindian: Need more info than that.
[07:25] <maikol> saik0 do i have to install startx?
[07:25] <terrapen> troy, I installed Ubuntu desktop and then that silly update manager told me that there was a kernel image update available (server) and like a dumbass, I installed it
[07:25] <troy_s> maikol: startx is default binary.
[07:25] <carpediem> liquidindian: type "rescue" at the prompt
[07:25] <saik0> maikol, no run it from the command line
[07:25] <graft> terrapen: why don't you just install your drivers again?
[07:25] <varsendaggr> maikol, that is startx /usr/bin/yourdesktopenvironment
[07:25] <maikol> alright
[07:25] <peanutb> liquidindian, what happened?
[07:25] <nanotube> monoman, who is the owner of the /data directory? also, to the options, add "uid=1000" (unless your uid is different) to the fstab line
[07:25] <leonassan> "change the names by the current username and groupname you are using" I don't know my current groupname, I assume my username is the one I logged into the computer with?
[07:25] <terrapen> troy, in what file does ubuntu know whether I'm "Server" or "Desktop"?
[07:25] <Bassetts> thanks cdubya and saik0
[07:25] <chris_> blanky PM me :)
[07:25] <terrapen> graft, kind of hard to without networking :)
[07:25] <monoman> where can I find my uid?
[07:25] <graft> terrapen: still got some of those floppies? :P
[07:26] <troy_s> terrapen: Very strange that you would somehow lose your wireless... Was it ndiswrapper etc?  What chipset?
[07:26] <monoman> owner? I am I think hehe
[07:26] <nanotube> leonassan, use command "id" to find out your uid and your gid and etc
[07:26] <firefly2442> How do I change the default java to use the Sun Java version?  Azureus doesn't seem to like the default GNU Java version
[07:26] <carpediem> terrapen: server/desktop has nothing to do with the kernel.  It only decides whether Gnome and X get installed.
[07:26] <liquidindian> peanutb, my laptop's not working. :)  Probably a hardware problem, but I'd like to try rescuing it anyway.
[07:26] <terrapen> graft, yeah seriously....maybe I'll set Xorg up by hand and write some Modelines :P{
[07:26] <nanotube> monoman, to find your uid, use command "id". to find owner of /data, run command 'ls -al /data'
[07:26] <KanRiNiN> terrapen: who makes the chipset?
[07:26] <graft> terrapen: you could always downgrade your kernel again, eh?
[07:26] <leonassan> gid = group?
[07:26] <troy_s> terrapen: Rest assured that if it worked before, it will work again.  At the very least use ESCAPE at boot to get the grub menu and boot to your older kernel.
[07:26] <nanotube> leonassan, gid = group id :)
[07:26] <liquidindian> There seems to be a problem booting up - it gets stuck at mounting root.
[07:26] <blanky> chris_, kay
[07:26] <terrapen> carpediem, strange that it installed a server kernel...maybe i should have paid closer attention
[07:27] <rixth>  tar -cf /backup.tar --exclude="/\.(mp3|flv)$/" /www <<<<< why does that not work? It does add files ending in .mp3 and .flv to the archive.
[07:27] <terrapen> troy, of course.  :) that's how i'm chatting with you guys :)
[07:27] <carpediem> terrapen: what is a "server" kernel?  I've no idea what you mean by that.
[07:27] <maikol> startx command not found
[07:27] <monoman> I got uid=1000(m0nk3ym4n)
[07:27] <leonassan> are they supposed to be the same?
[07:27] <TSCHAK> Sometime after Dapper Flight 6, NetworkManager won't work with my rt2500 miniPCI card in my laptop, has anyone else had this problem???
[07:27] <terrapen> I guess I'm just not used to doing this with GUI tools
[07:27] <chris_> liquidindian probably find the answer on my live journal http://hotsaucenlife.livejournal.com
[07:27] <troy_s> terrapen:  So you are running ubuntu under xfce?
[07:27] <troy_s> terrapen:  what does uname -r dump?
[07:27] <rixth> !tell TSCHAK about anyone
[07:27] <nanotube> monoman, so, change your fstab line to look like:
[07:27] <terrapen> carpediem, hell if I know but the Update Manager thing (whatever that is) installed it.
[07:27] <peanutb> liquidindian, does it try to chech the disk?
[07:27] <terrapen> troy: yep
[07:27] <nanotube> monoman, /dev/sda4       /data           vfat    defaults,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,umask=0077 0 0
[07:28] <troy_s> terrapen: uname -r and give me the kernel listed.
[07:28] <carpediem> terrapen: if you are talking about SMP, that's not server...it just means multiprocessor support.
[07:28] <terrapen> 2.6.15-23-386
[07:28] <TSCHAK> rixth, I did actually ask my question, please do not be a dick!
[07:28] <carpediem> terrapen: that's a normal kernel.
[07:28] <troy_s> terrapen: That is just a generic kernel.
[07:28] <monoman> ok looks just like that now
[07:28] <terrapen> carpediem, I know.
[07:28] <terrapen> I booted back to the old generic one
[07:28] <terrapen> but it DID install some kind of "server" kernel
[07:28] <nanotube> monoman, and what's the ouptut of "ls -ald /data" ?
[07:28] <troy_s> terrapen: If you boot to the newer one, what does it list?
[07:28] <terrapen> hang on, lemme look for GRUB's config to show you it
[07:29] <terrapen> cjs@utila [331]  23:28:06 [~] -> ls /lib/modules/
[07:29] <terrapen> 2.6.15-23-386  2.6.15-23-server  2.6.15-25-686  2.6.15-25-server
[07:29] <terrapen> see :)
[07:29] <monoman> uh drwx
[07:29] <chris_> liquidindian
[07:29] <chris_> Goto Ubuntu Rescue Option In The Grub Bootloader, Be Patient.. Then Shows Command Line (Terminal)
[07:29] <chris_> To Reset Xserver Type-
[07:29] <chris_> Sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:29] <chris_> Bring Up Ubuntu Xserver Setup, Just Do The Defaults, With That Meaning. . . Enter , Enter , Enter etc etc
[07:29] <chris_> Brings Back To Command Line (Termnial) Type In-
[07:29] <chris_> sudo/etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:29] <chris_> Then Ubuntu Loads, It Was Like Magic! :)
[07:29] <terrapen> that was instaleld by the update manager thing
[07:29] <chris_> ;)
[07:29] <nanotube> monoman, after the drwx :)
[07:29] <monoman> 2 root root 32768 1969 - 12 -31 16:00 /data
[07:29] <skydragon38> solved my own prob, i had deleted the system notification area from my panel, thats where gaim keeps its icon, thanx anyways
[07:29] <troy_s> terrapen:  Remove it.
[07:29] <nanotube> monoman, ah, so it is owned by root.
[07:29] <troy_s> terrapen:  apt-cache search linux-image
[07:29] <saik0> rixth, are you sure --exclude= handles regexp?
[07:29] <uXp> !gftp
[07:29] <ubotu> I guess gftp is an ftp client. It is available in repositories and through Applications -> Add/Remove Applications -> Internet
[07:29] <terrapen> troy, yep, I'm going to.  I'm just curious how and why it wanted to install those in the first place
[07:29] <troy_s> terrapen: and simply update to the normal kernel.
[07:29] <nanotube> monoman, run command "sudo chown yourusername /data" (change yourusername to y our actual username on thy system, of course)
[07:30] <carpediem> terrapen: man, what repos are you on?  I've never seen that kernel.
[07:30] <troy_s> terrapen:  I don't know why it would do that... seems strange weird unless you installed your ubuntu from a server state.
[07:30] <TSCHAK> networkmanager no longer lights any indicators when scanning for networks, what gives?
[07:30] <rixth> saik0, this in in the help "--exclude=PATTERN " so I think do
[07:30] <troy_s> terrapen: at which point it will try to install that server kernel.
[07:30] <TSCHAK> I have a Ralink RT2500 miniPCI card.
[07:30] <monoman> Operation not permitted =(
[07:30] <terrapen> troy, yeah, this baffles me.  AFAIK I was installing a Desktop version
[07:30] <nanotube> you did it with sudo, right?
[07:30] <nanotube> monoman, you did it with sudo, right?
[07:30] <troy_s> terrapen:  Did you install via the desktop cd or server install then install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:31] <terrapen> desktop cd
[07:31] <troy_s> terrapen:  Because that MIGHT get you to where you are now.
[07:31] <monoman>  just like that
[07:31] <monoman> err
[07:31] <troy_s> terrapen:  Very strange.
[07:31] <terrapen> 6.06
[07:31] <terrapen> yessir.
[07:31] <monoman> $ sudo chown m0nk3ym4n /data
[07:31] <troy_s> terrapen:  Check malone for bugs.
[07:31] <terrapen> I was going to report it as a bug if I could track it down
[07:31] <terrapen> what/who is malone?
[07:31] <nanotube> monoman, and it asked you for password, and then said operation not permitted?
[07:31] <terrapen> (sorry, I've been out of this scene for a while :)
[07:31] <monoman> Didn't ask for password
[07:31] <troy_s> ubotu, tell malone about bug
[07:31] <carpediem> terrapen: I think ubuntu could smell the BSD left behind, and it's messing with you.
[07:31] <troy_s> ubotu, tell terrapen about bug
[07:32] <terrapen> carpediem: hehehehe
[07:32] <nanotube> monoman, ah well, that's probably because you used sudo to edit the fstab before. there is a 15min timeout before it asks passwd again. ok... hmmm...
[07:32] <terrapen> maybe it saw my suspenders and beard
[07:32] <carpediem> lol
[07:32] <terrapen> (just kidding.  i have no suspenders or beard heh heh)
[07:32] <mneptok> 'allo users
[07:32] <troy_s> terrapen: Seriously though, it shouldn't have done that unless you did some strange tweak in there.
[07:32] <nanotube> well, try "umount /data" and "mount /data" again. now that we gave it uid=1000, maybe it will work anyway. i don't know why it doesnt let you chown the dir, though...
[07:32] <troy_s> terrapen: And perhaps it might be linked to xfce in some way (although I know not how or why or whatever).
[07:33] <omodo> I'd like to suggest: there should be a "set superuser password" step in the installation process.
[07:33] <terrapen> thanks troy and carpediem.
[07:33] <terrapen> troy, i'm guessing that somewhere on my filesystem lies a file that is the cause of this
[07:33] <omodo> I mean, are all users expected to discover "sudo passwd"?
[07:33] <monoman> Am I sol for 15 minutes =(?
[07:33] <terrapen> something is telling the update manager that I am a server
[07:34] <mneptok> monoman: what are you trying to do?
[07:34] <saik0> rixth, http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/tar_102.html
[07:34] <rixth> Yeah, shell syntax, not regex
[07:34] <monoman> change ownership of partition /data to my user
[07:34] <nanotube> monoman, no, you are just already authenticated for 15 min, not sol. :)
[07:34] <monoman> okok so after 15 min what do I do?
[07:34] <monoman> type same thing?
[07:34] <mneptok> monoman: sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/dir
[07:35] <terrapen> but overall, I am impressed as hell with Ubuntu and Xfce
[07:35] <nanotube> monoman, can you try "umount /data" first, and THEN do the sudo chown command?
[07:35] <saik0> rixth, the pattern you're using is regex
[07:35] <blanky> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:35] <blanky> what the heck is that
[07:35] <cdubya> xfce rocks
[07:35] <cdubya> :)
[07:35] <terrapen> I like Xfce because I can make it act just like my olf FVWM configuration that I used for 12 years :)
[07:35] <cdubya> heh
[07:35] <monoman> lol yes
[07:36] <skydragon38> i use a wireless card on a laptop running dapper.  my prob is that i can access networks with a WEP just fine, but with no encryption i cant access the network
[07:36] <monoman> but now I try to remount and it says line 8 in fstab is bad
[07:36] <cdubya> FVWM, I installed it when I was on Breezy just to check it out.....man it was a trip
[07:36] <Bassetts> =O gates is going to step down as head of MS??
[07:36] <blanky> anyone know what the following means?
[07:36] <blanky> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:36] <chris_> Xfce rocks? i was going to try it... whats so great about it?
[07:36] <cdubya> Bassetts, yep, "to work on world issues and such...."
[07:36] <skydragon38> @bassetts, apparently yes
[07:37] <cdubya> least, that's what foxnews said...
[07:37] <Bassetts> wonder what this will mean for MS
[07:37] <leonassan> Can anyone else see this? http://www.etherealnexus.net/testphp.php ?
[07:37] <mneptok> Bassetts: he needs to be reformatted because of spyware.
[07:37] <Bassetts> its on bbc news also, to focus on his charity mroe
[07:37] <Bassetts> more*
[07:37] <terrapen> http://chrissnell.com/screenshots/jan2000-desktop.jpg
[07:37] <terrapen> that's my old desktop
[07:37] <cdubya> chris_, runs pretty lean.....I like that alot.....
[07:37] <nanotube> monoman, hmm, and line 8 would not by any chance be the one we added? :)
[07:37] <Bassetts> Mr Gates said the move would allow him to spend more time on health and education work at his charity
[07:38] <monoman> you bet hehe
[07:38] <terrapen> I actually miss xearth running in my little dock.  that was sweet as hell back in 2000
[07:38] <cdubya> heh
[07:38] <terrapen> and I had to patch wmweather to be able to dock multiple copies of it
[07:39] <nanotube> hmm, well... let's see..., monoman
[07:39] <terrapen> cdubya, I think that screenshot is from back when I had a Sun for my desktop
[07:39] <cdubya> heh
[07:39] <cdubya> kewl
[07:39] <terrapen> now it's a G5 and this laptop with ubuntu :)
[07:39] <cdubya> G5?
[07:40] <cdubya> sweet
[07:40] <terrapen> I have 4 Macs :)
[07:40] <cdubya> very kewl
[07:40] <cdubya> got a few here
[07:40] <cdubya> one with breezy
[07:40] <cdubya> mostly older ones
[07:40] <terrapen> nice, mneptok
[07:40] <cdubya> "Of course it runs NetBSD"
[07:40] <cdubya> heh
[07:41] <nanotube> monoman, try removing the iocharset=utf8 bit
[07:41] <cdubya> on a Quadra.....
[07:41] <terrapen> and OpenBSD  and now...Ubuntu
[07:41] <mneptok> this weekend i'm installing NetBSD on my cat.
[07:41] <cdubya> that is very kewl
[07:41] <monoman> kk
[07:41] <saik0> rixth, echo -e '.mp3\n.flv' >> /tmp/excludelist ; tar -cf /backup.tar --exclude-from=/tmp/excludelist /www
[07:41] <terrapen> yeah, i had a neat linux box back in the day, in 1996
[07:42] <monoman> Ok now I can mount it
[07:42] <monoman> but
[07:42] <monoman> I can't enter the disk
[07:42] <cdubya> biggest challenge when I first installed Ubuntu on the Bondi's I have was the video was wacked, but Breezy fixed that.....
[07:42] <terrapen> in 1995, you could control the CD player in my desktop linux machine over the Web
[07:42] <mneptok> monoman: sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/dir
[07:42] <cdubya> terrapen, kewl
[07:42] <cdubya> :
[07:42] <cdubya> :)
[07:42] <terrapen> I wrote a CGI that controlled the CD player .  it was (I'm not kidding) a bourne shell CGI
[07:42] <terrapen> so people could see what I was listening to and change the track
[07:43] <cdubya> sweet.
[07:43] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[07:43] <omodo> very insane
[07:43] <terrapen> everything was so hacked together back then...
[07:43] <cdubya> terrapen, I'm glad I don't have to do that.....:)
[07:43] <chris_> terrapen is our historic guy :)
[07:43] <terrapen> oh, but it was so fun :)
[07:44] <belal1> question: is it possible for vlc to be included in a 'free' distro such as ubuntu, or is there a licensing problem that would restrict it from being included?
[07:44] <cdubya> I don't mind messing and getting my hands a little dirty, but I have to say I really enjoy the niceties of the installers and using apt
[07:44] <chris_> he shoulda been on the movie Revolution OS
[07:44] <terrapen> in my dorm room, we put my 486/66 (most powerful machine in the dorm) as our Linux server
[07:44] <mneptok> belal1: the codecs make it impossible.
[07:44] <monoman> YAY Thanks Nanotube and Mneptok =)
[07:44] <monoman> Works good
[07:44] <terrapen> and we had a couple of serial consoles attached to it
[07:44] <belal1> oh man.  and that's the whole reason why vlc rocks so much.  because of the codecs
[07:44] <terrapen> and we would get stoned out of our minds and hack around on the server via the serial consoles spread out across the room :)
[07:45] <omodo> belal1, I've used VLC on Windows, it did have a lot of preinstalled codecs but the video rendering sucked.
[07:46] <mneptok> belal1: well, the codecs are reverse-engineered proprietary codecs that would expose anyone including them in a distro to litigation
[07:46] <omodo> belal1: it didn't have good post-processing filters like ffdshow.
[07:46] <firefly2442> Where can I get that huge book that Ubuntu is releasing for download?
[07:47] <cdubya> book? we're getting our own book?
[07:47] <cdubya> WOW. very kewl.
[07:47] <cdubya> :)
[07:47] <firefly2442> or manual or something?
[07:47] <firefly2442> my friend got it and printed it but I don't know where...
[07:48] <bimberi_> firefly2442: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
[07:48] <skydragon38> what does this mean, and how do i fix this?:<package> is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system architecture.
[07:49] <firefly2442> ahha!  Thanks!
[07:49] <terrapen> sadly, as far as I know, some of my friends who were hardcore Linux hackers back in 94-96 have completely disappeared.  I don't think they even use computers anymore.
[07:49] <bulltitan> hooo my gosh disaster!
[07:49] <Bassetts> how the hell is that possible
[07:49] <bulltitan> i've just downloaded the lates update for ubuntu
[07:49] <bulltitan> and i have a new kernel image in grub
[07:49] <p3thupv> can i reset or make new password for root have lost my
[07:49] <bulltitan> wich one should i use?
[07:50] <Bassetts> bulltitan, the newest one
[07:50] <bimberi_> bulltitan: -25
[07:50] <bulltitan> can i erase the other one from grub?
[07:50] <Bassetts> isnt it -30 now? =S
[07:50] <bulltitan> 25 here
[07:50] <chris_> i'm having trouble installing a theme :|
[07:50] <bulltitan> 2.6.15-25-386
[07:50] <p3thupv> first try it with old on
[07:51] <Bassetts> ok i saw that out
[07:51] <chris_> gtk theme
[07:51] <Bassetts> wrong*
[07:51] <belal1> gtk1 or gtk 2?
[07:51] <chris_> gtk2
[07:51] <bulltitan> let me change the question how can i edit grub boot menu?
[07:51] <chris_> gtk-2.0
[07:51] <bulltitan> and erase the old image
[07:51] <belal1> you should be able to drag and drop the themes into the theme manager
[07:52] <mneptok> bulltitan: you should never edit menu.lst, you should remove the old kernel and restricted modules with apt/Synaptic
[07:52] <bimberi_> bulltitan: yes, by uninstalling the linux-image-2.6.15-25-386 package.  But make sure -25- works for you first
[07:52] <chris_> ok will try hold on
[07:52] <Bassetts> !grub
[07:52] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:52] <achandra_> hello. How do  "manaully" configure an ethernet interface...I have a device that is set to eth0 but want to rename it to wlan0?
[07:52] <bulltitan> ok
[07:52] <cdubya> bulltitan, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:52] <bulltitan> thanks
[07:52] <Bassetts> there you go bulltitan
[07:52] <bulltitan> lol
[07:52] <noiesmo> mneptok, why should you never edit menu.1st please
[07:52] <bimberi_> bulltitan: sorry, that should have been linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 :)
[07:53] <bulltitan> that's ok
[07:53] <chris_> nope not working confiquration theme file
[07:53] <bulltitan> i think it works fine so far
[07:53] <chris_> :| gtk2.0
[07:53] <mneptok> noiesmo: because removing the old kernels with apt/Synaptic will take care of menu.lst for you.
[07:53] <bulltitan> with the exeption that i had to re install the fglrx driver
[07:53] <bulltitan> :P
[07:53] <noiesmo> mneptok, thats no reason not to edit manually
[07:53] <cdubya> editing it always works fine for me.....
[07:53] <cdubya> :)
[07:54] <noiesmo> me to done that for years
[07:54] <bulltitan> and off course install the non existent restricted drivers for 25
[07:54] <belal1> that's odd.  is this a fresh install of ubuntu?
[07:54] <mneptok> noiesmo: we recommend users allow the package manager to take care of menu.lst
[07:54] <bulltitan> oook let's erase the old image and see what happens,... brb
[07:54] <chris_> belal1 you talking to me?
[07:55] <belal1> yes
[07:55] <chris_> belal1 yes it is a fresh install just updated from breezy bagger
[07:55] <Hobbsee> mneptok: noiesmo what were you looking to change in it?
[07:55] <noiesmo> mneptok, thats fine but you should still not say never edit it manually because there is nothing wrong with doing that
[07:55] <noiesmo> Hobbsee, me nothing
[07:56] <terrapen> ok, time for a reboot
[07:56] <Hobbsee> ah okay - i only saw the back end
[07:56] <mneptok> noiesmo: until a user breaks it, can't boot, and blames you or the OS
[07:57] <Xyc0> How can I view all the local wireless signals?
[07:57] <leonassan> How can I run an application as a superuser from the GUI?
[07:57] <mneptok> Xyc0: install gnome-network-manager
[07:57] <leonassan> Gproftpd, specifically..
[07:57] <mneptok> leonassan: sudo Gproftod
[07:58] <mneptok> or whatever
[07:58] <cdubya> considering the kernel update that was downloaded in an update wouldn't allow my machine to boot, I don't mind at all editing menu.lst so I could have a bootable system.......to each his own, I suppose. :-/
[07:58] <leonassan> Thanks, Mneptok :)
[07:58] <Xyc0> mneptok: are you sure that is what it is called?
[07:58] <mneptok> cdubya: downloading a new kernel should not remove the previous kernel from the GRUB menu
[07:58] <cdubya> didn't.
[07:59] <cdubya> I didn't mean to imply that.
[07:59] <noiesmo> So Hobbsee whats your stance on editing the gub/menu.1st by hand since yoiu set the topic here what should be recommended
[07:59] <Xyc0> mneptok: or is it network-manager-gnome?
[07:59] <mneptok> Xyc0: that's the one
[07:59] <cdubya> It did, however, hammer my system when I tried to boot the 25 kernel, though, thus my compulsion to happily manually edit menu.lst. ;)
[08:00] <belal1> chris_: you didn't move the file after installing the theme have u?
[08:00] <bulltitan> ok i'm about to eliminate the old one,... now onw more question,... eliminate simple or complete?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> noiesmo: depends what they're wanting.  if they want to change which OS is default, i point them to !grub, which includes such info.  or just use sudo update-grub, for new kernels or whatever, or new operating systems
[08:00] <chris_> belal1 yah its not working :|
[08:00] <chris_> gtk2 theme
[08:00] <mneptok> bulltitan: i'd leave the old one around for a few days.
[08:00] <rob138> where is the TTF font folder?
[08:00] <belal1> chris_: what is the theme?
[08:00] <noiesmo> !tell noiesmo about grub
[08:00] <bulltitan> you think,.. hum :|
[08:00] <belal1> is it from art.gnome.org?
[08:00] <chris_> Clearlooks-DarkOrange
[08:01] <chris_> yes
[08:01] <bulltitan> well it doesn't hurt much to have 2 more options in grub for a few days i gess
[08:01] <mneptok> rob138: /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[08:01] <rob138> mneptok thanks
[08:01] <Xyc0> mneptok: any idea how to run gnome-network-manager after I install it?
[08:02] <bulltitan> guess sorry
[08:02] <amarokker> Hi, I am unable to get any sound any more- working on dapper- it was alright for all this time
[08:02] <mneptok> Xyc0: it should add itself to the top GNOME menubar
[08:02] <amarokker> And suddenly, there's a cross on my volume applet now
[08:02] <amarokker> any ideas....it could've occured after the upgrade...i cant say for sure
[08:03] <cdubya> welp, going to call it a night here. Take care, all.
[08:03] <bulltitan> the only weird thing was that in the first boot with the new image it forced the check of root and discover some errors
[08:03] <noiesmo> dam the ubuntu wiki says i can do manual edits mneptok
[08:03] <belal1> okay so this is a applications theme...hmm
[08:04] <p3thupv> can i reset or change root password?
[08:04] <chris_> belal1 not sure :P
[08:04] <chris_> _._
[08:04] <mneptok> noiesmo: like i said, we discourage users from manually editing it.
[08:04] <noiesmo> mneptok, whos this we
[08:04] <mneptok> Canonical, Ltd.
[08:04] <cafuego> amarokker: It means it's muted. Just unmute it.
[08:04] <aeon17x> Recently, when logging in from anyone of the tty's, I'm getting the same configuration errors as shown in this forum post - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185969
[08:05] <maikol> gdm wont start because xserver is having erors
[08:05] <belal1> because this a application theme..its differently installed.  read this: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q2
[08:05] <Xyc0> mneptok: I am not exactly sure what you mean by "top of gnome menu"
[08:05] <amarokker> cafuego: i think not. I've checked using alsamixer - it says that no audio device is present
[08:05] <mneptok> Xyc0: you're running GNOME, ja?
[08:05] <achandra_> Hi guys...has anyone renamed eth0 to say eth1 or some other device...how would you go about doing so ?
[08:05] <chris_> belal1 thanks :))
[08:05] <Xyc0> mneptok: yes
[08:05] <amarokker> i've tinkered with all the volume bars  - to no avail
[08:06] <belal1> you are welcomed :-)
[08:06] <Xyc0> mneptok: gnome has many menus
[08:06] <ruxpin> how do I get the list of running and available system services (daemons) from the console?
[08:06] <mneptok> Xyc0: there should be a new icon over by the date/time and volume control in the top menubar
[08:06] <co> hay
[08:06] <cafuego> amarokker: Ah, that doesn't help much, no. Check that the correct driver is loaded ('lsmod | grep snd' will show you the loaded modules)
[08:06] <soaz> hi
[08:06] <mneptok> Xyc0: not menu. menubar.
[08:06] <chris_> belal1 I thank you everything!! :)
[08:06] <co> you bitch
[08:06] <belal1> happy to help
[08:06] <johnZay> hi.. how do I configure nautilus?
[08:06] <mneptok> ruxpin: ps aux
[08:06] <co> yes
[08:07] <belal1> john, try preferences
[08:07] <Xyc0> mneptok: just the original icons
[08:07] <garryfre> Butterfly net?
[08:07] <mneptok> johnZay: run gconf-editor
[08:07] <bulltitan> ok be right back to see how the menu looks
[08:07] <chris_> belal1 it didn't help tho :P
[08:07] <johnZay> thanks :-)
[08:07] <belal1> lol crap
[08:07] <johnZay> I dont see why that isnt in the menu anymore
[08:07] <chris_> belal1 i did everything
[08:07] <chris_> and its all a repeat
[08:07] <chris_> :P
[08:07] <chris_> ohh well
[08:08] <mneptok> johnZay: it's there, just hidden. use Alacarte to unhide it.
[08:08] <omodo> Hehe, where in the "Applications" menu would Ubuntu put Emacs?
[08:08] <johnZay> thanks ;-)
[08:08] <Frem> omodo: The real question is, why aren't you at the command line when using Emacs? Seriously. ;-)
[08:08] <SuperQ> not to be the 1000th person asking this.. but did anyone have ACPI suspend break after upgrading to 2.6.15-25?
[08:09] <garryfre> What's a command line?
[08:09] <belal1> chris_ I don't have gnome installed, so its hard to tell you everything from memory.  sorry i couldn't help much
[08:09] <mneptok> SuperQ: 997, actually ;)
[08:09] <SuperQ> damn
[08:09] <soaz> i modified my source.list according the ubuntu guide (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper). today i got a notice, that there were security updates available, which i installed and after that my gnome-showdestkop, "-listprograms", "switchdesktop" applets were gone. completelly. did anyone else had this problem ?
[08:09] <belal1> I'm running xubuntu, I find it more flexible when it comes to theming
[08:09] <chris_> belal1 its ok :)
[08:09] <chris_> thank you
[08:09] <belal1> you are welcomed
[08:10] <SuperQ> mneptok: both of my thinkpads are now cranky :(
[08:10] <amarokker> Can someone please check whether if anything's wrong with sound: here's the output of lsmod | grep snd http://rafb.net/paste/results/Yf1xE950.html
[08:10] <amarokker> everything seems to be in order there.
[08:10] <mneptok> SuperQ: i haven't updated my T60 yet
[08:10] <SuperQ> mneptok: my gf's got a T60, suspend doesn't work with fglrx :(
[08:10] <garryfre> Strangely, I did the easybuntu, and got video working, but its funny as hell, the sound and video is out of sync. I hear the sentence, then their lips move. Its like watching that fight scene in Police Academy. :)
[08:10] <omodo> Frem, hehe
[08:11] <SuperQ> mneptok: so anyone know exactly what broke suspend with -25?
[08:12] <SuperQ> I suspose I could just use -23 for now
[08:12] <mneptok> SuperQ: no clue. have you checked LP?
[08:12] <dick-richardson> How do I edit the lid switch actions on my laptop?
[08:12] <amarokker> btw, do i need to enable the deprecated 'OSS' sound from the kernel build options...and after setting the options, does the kernel need to be recompiled? I am using the kernel headers- not source
[08:12] <garryfre> Apparrently it seems the audio and the video is on separate threads or so it seems and the sound thread is running faster than the video. :)
[08:12] <SuperQ> not yet
[08:12] <SuperQ> didn't see anything on ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devel
[08:12] <garryfre> !oss
[08:12] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[08:12] <vitorres> hi... anyone now how share photos betwen nokia 3220 and ubuntu ??
[08:13] <vitorres> :S
[08:13] <leonassan> WOOT. Web up, PHP up, ftp up
[08:13] <DaveyJ> i have a noob question :) -- i'm installing flock.. how do i make a pointer to the .sh in /usr/bin .. or is that a bad idea all together?
[08:13] <garryfre> Does the nokia have a memory stick?
[08:13] <vitorres> nonon
[08:13] <vitorres> usb cable
[08:13] <chris_> leonassan what programs :P
[08:13] <vitorres> pl-2303
[08:13] <chris_> proftpd?
[08:14] <vitorres> when I connect the cable dmesg say: /dev/ttyUSB0
[08:14] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, anyone used the Grub Super Disk before ?
[08:14] <garryfre> Ok, if you plug in the camera, at least with my nikkon, it finds the photos in the camera memory and offers to download them, in dapper.
[08:14] <RemyLaptop> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows)
[08:14] <vitorres> :P is a phone
[08:14] <vitorres> nokia 3220
[08:14] <saik0> How can i tell what version of automake some source wants to use?
[08:14] <vitorres> sorry
[08:14] <RemyLaptop> I've just installed windows vista on my second partition, and it's installed it's own boot loader that overwrote grub...
[08:14] <vitorres> :P
[08:14] <neighborlee> hm has anyone noticed that sometimes when you access one of the three gnome panel menus ( apps, places or system), that instead of getting entire sub menus you get this arrow instead,,and pressing the arrow scrolls down or up through the possible sub menus ??
[08:14] <leonassan> Apache2, PHP5, and ProFTPd
[08:14] <RemyLaptop> I'm trying to get it back again
[08:15] <SuperQ> mneptok: ah well.. it'll have to wait till tomorow
[08:15] <SuperQ> need to get to bed
[08:15] <RemyLaptop> but I'm having difficulties with teh super disc
[08:15] <RemyLaptop> and don't have a dapper install disc :P
[08:15] <neighborlee> as if the screen thinks it can't display entire menu at once so it places the arrows there..really strange ;00
[08:15] <neighborlee> and im running in  1600x1200 so ...;))
[08:15] <bulltitan> ok everything seems to be fine and the menu looks ok
[08:16] <garryfre> Who needs bed, my keyboard makes great pillow
[08:16] <garryfre> Never heard of grub super disk
[08:16] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to split my main partition so that my /home directory can be moved to a different partition to ease reinstallation of the OS
[08:17] <ToHellWithGA> is that an easy or at least well-defined process?
[08:17] <ubuntu> hi
[08:17] <ToHellWithGA> hi ubuntu
[08:17] <ubuntu> i want to set up my adsl modem with usb support
[08:17] <bulltitan> brand?
[08:18] <Damiand> Hi i need some help here i want to start my normal xserver via my first graphics card normally and then i can use gdmflexiserver to start my second xserver whitch i want to use mythtv or some sort of media centre software on my tv with. I can do this fine problem is hoqw do i start this second xserver on my second video card to i can then go and enable tv out??
[08:18] <ubuntu> huawei
[08:18] <ubuntu> model MT841
[08:18] <bulltitan> i can only help guys with huawei type of modems or any eagle 3 type
[08:18] <bulltitan> hum
[08:18] <Damiand> so *
[08:19] <ubuntu> i am having huawei adsl modem
[08:20] <bulltitan> cool visit first of all this website http://www.eagle-usb.org/
[08:20] <manji> hey, do i have to manually get firefox to use ALSA for sound output?
[08:20] <bulltitan> you need to get the eagle usb 2.3.3 driver from there
[08:20] <chris_> belal1 i fixed the problem!
[08:20] <bulltitan> after downloading that one you'll need the rpppoe file
[08:21] <chris_> belal1 i didn't have to extract the tar.gz file :P
[08:21] <Xyc0> Is there a reason why ndiswrapper doesn't see my hardware anymore?
[08:21] <skaller> anyone help with error installing ia32-libs during Breezy->dapper upgrade on amd64?
[08:21] <bulltitan> after getting those two files first install rpppoe and then eagle usb driver
[08:21] <bulltitan> after this setup rpppoe by typing pppoe-setup
[08:22] <bulltitan> and then setup the eagle driver by typing eagleconf if i recall correctly
[08:22] <ubuntu> where to get rpppoe file
[08:22] <Bassetts> can someone help me, vmware has stopped working because my kernel got updated
[08:23] <bulltitan> i've got it from a thread in ubuntuforums but let me see if i can give you that info
[08:23] <manji> hey, does anyone know how to get sound working in firefox if im using alsa?
[08:23] <skaller> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/ldd' with
[08:23] <skaller>   different file `/usr/bin/ldd.amd64', not allowed
[08:23] <skaller> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[08:24] <bulltitan> ubuntu
[08:24] <bulltitan> accorfing to the info in the readme file of rpppoe it should be http://www.roaringpenguin.com
[08:24] <leonassan> installed telnetd-ssl, how do I activate it or use it?
[08:25] <rob_> hi, i know this probably been asked a ton, but how do i get flash movies in firefox to play sound??
[08:25] <bulltitan> but you can google this name also rp-pppoe-31.6.tar
[08:25] <bulltitan> it is tar.gz
[08:26] <garryfre> !flash
[08:26] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:26] <leonassan> !telnetd-ssl
[08:26] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, leonassan
[08:26] <leonassan> Nothing.. Hmm
[08:26] <garryfre> !telnet
[08:26] <ubotu> it has been said that telnet is bad, use ssh (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto)
[08:27] <bulltitan> brb
[08:28] <blanky> blanky's here, ask your questions now
[08:28] <glick> yay! thats great that my external drive magically stopped working again with dapper
[08:28] <blanky> glick, hehe
[08:29] <garryfre> I had an external backup drive to backup my stuff because I figured that while it's turned off it won't wear out. Well, while it was turned off, it fried!
[08:30] <ubuntu> i couldnt find rp-pppoe-31.6.tat by googling and also at roaringpenguin.com
[08:30] <enkrav> Hi, I have a long mpeg video that I can play in totem. Is there a way to cut out a piece off the video out? Which program could do it?
[08:31] <ubuntu_> hello, i wanted to know how easy and how safe is it to mix stable and unstable packages with ubuntu
[08:31] <a_l_e> hello, i wanted to know how easy and how safe is it to mix stable and unstable packages with ubuntu
[08:31] <blanky> good job...we heard you
[08:31] <makko> will google earth be added to an ubuntu repository?
[08:31] <insidious> hey, quick question.  after I've installed the nvidia driver (Direct Rendering: yes), and when I log out or shut down, it freezes and puts a weird color pattern on my screen
[08:31] <blanky> i do it all the time, nothing's happened yet
[08:32] <blanky> makko, ask at #ubuntu-motu
[08:32] <blanky> insidious, that's nvidia for you (jk)
[08:32] <blanky> insidious, you read the wiki? that's not categorized under the 'common problems'?
[08:32] <blanky> sup Chris_|Away
[08:33] <insidious> actually I searched the forums, didn't check the wiki
[08:33] <insidious> brb
[08:33] <blanky> !tell insidious about nvidia
[08:33] <blanky> there's the wiki
[08:34] <leonassan> Happy bouncy ssh running, thanks :)
[08:34] <omodo> !tell omodo about nvidia
[08:35] <rob138> if apt-get is taking a really long time to set up something(flashplugin), is there a way to check if it is actually doing anything or just froze?
[08:35] <Ademan> is xubuntu really that much faster than ubuntu? (i have an old computer i kinda wanna ressurrect)
[08:35] <stephie> hello. how to install a kernel that is older than the newest one on the computer? i want to install an old kernel after the installation has finished
[08:35] <blanky> stephie, synaptic > system packages or something like that
[08:35] <blanky> search for kernel
[08:35] <neutrinomass> Ademan: Not treMENdously faster, but quite faster. If you're light on RAM it matters more....
[08:35] <omodo> rob138: no new text on the screen?
[08:35] <Ademan> hehe 96 mb
[08:36] <Ademan> what about ubuntu lite?
[08:36] <omodo> rob138: and why aren't you using synaptic?
[08:36] <blanky> Ademan, ubuntu-lite is dead
[08:36] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[08:36] <Ademan> well then, haha
[08:36] <rob138> omodo, quickness
[08:36] <neutrinomass> Ademan: Hm... that's too little for Gnome AFAIK. Go with Xubuntu ;)
[08:36] <blanky> Ademan, it isn't officially, but no apparent 'hey we're alive' type of thing either
[08:36] <neutrinomass> Ademan: It's just as usable anyway ( a non-geek friend of mine even said it looks more polished )
[08:37] <Ademan> neutrinomass: alright, i havent really even decided a purpose for the computer, i just kinda feel bad looking at it sitting there... all powered down and sad... lol
[08:37] <omodo> neutrinomass: unless you want to use Gnome applications... :)
[08:37] <omodo> but in that case, you just need a decent box.
[08:37] <leonassan> using Gproftpd, I am getting error 550 when I try to upload, the account has upload permission to the folder, what's happening?
[08:38] <rob138> omodo, it is doing the same thing in synaptic (preparing... in the gui, and setting up in the terminal portion)
[08:38] <corpxicle> how do i make a disk, or a directory visible on the desktop ?
[08:38] <leonassan> Nevermind, figured it out
[08:38] <neutrinomass> Ademan: Exactly my thoughts about my P100! Although that's probably too old even for Xubuntu
[08:38] <harry> who knows turbogears? please help me install it. www.turbogears.org
[08:38] <corpxicle> oh
[08:38] <corpxicle> "create launcher"
[08:38] <omodo> rob138: yeah, afaik Synaptic won't give you any more info than apt, it's just easier to use.
[08:38] <neutrinomass> omodo: Nothing stops you from using Gnome applications!
[08:38] <garryfre> Drag and drop from places to desktop
[08:38] <rob138> poop
[08:39] <corpxicle> garryfre: that makes links ?
[08:39] <stephie> blanky, what is it? kernel-image or kernel headers?
[08:39] <omodo> neutrinomass: but you'd have to install Gnome, and that would be missing the point of XUbuntu, no?
[08:39] <a_l_e> let's try it again: i wanted to know how easy and how safe is it to mix stable and unstable packages with ubuntu (... the corruption of the dselect informations was the main reason why i've left debian some years ago).
[08:39] <rob138> omodo, is it possible it just takes a while to setup?
[08:39] <Chris_|Away> thats funny you cant change the folder icons in new ubuntu dapper :P
[08:39] <blanky> stephie, kernel-image
[08:39] <stephie> thank you
[08:39] <Chris_|Away> or could you?
[08:39] <stephie> what kernel was used in dapper drakes flight 7?
[08:39] <omodo> rob138: yes, especially if you have a relatively under-powered machine.
[08:39] <Ademan> neutrinomass: hehe, this things got 300 mhz of pure power
[08:39] <blanky> no problem stephie
[08:39] <rob138> omodo, under-powered?
[08:40] <omodo> rob138: relatively slow, not a lot of memory.
[08:40] <rob138> omodo, 3ghz and 1 g ram
[08:40] <rixth> crimsun_, yo?
[08:40] <omodo> rob138: how long has it been taking?
[08:40] <neutrinomass> omodo: You don't need gnome to install gnome apps. You will install a couple of libraries, but will be eventually installed anyway. If your computer is low on RAM, things will be faster because you won't be swapping out to disk ;)
[08:40] <Chris_|Away> could you change the icons in dapper?
[08:40] <omodo> (that's not under-powered :)
[08:40] <rob138> omodo, minutes...
[08:40] <rixth> Chris_|Away, sure
[08:41] <Chris_|Away> rixth how?
[08:41] <Chris_|Away> i right click properties
[08:41] <omodo> rob138: I'd just leave it alone (no serious stuff running) for ~10 minutes.
[08:41] <garryfre> I tried it, dragging from the browse window under places under computer to destop and it made a link alright.
[08:41] <Chris_|Away> on a folder *
[08:41] <rixth> Chris_|Away, not for individual folders
[08:41] <omodo> rob138: if it won't be done by then... something's probably wrong.
[08:41] <Chris_|Away> what for individual folders what do you mean?
[08:41] <rob138> omodo, okay, cool
[08:42] <garryfre> Folders and drives too.
[08:42] <Chris_|Away> ohh wait i just click the picture :P
[08:42] <omodo> neutrinomass: why won't I be "swapping out to disk"?
[08:42] <Chris_|Away> icon picture when i right click properties
[08:42] <Chris_|Away> and browse
[08:42] <Chris_|Away> i got it i think :)
[08:44] <rob138> omodo, so it finished... then i got a popup error: E: Not locked and that was it
[08:45] <neutrinomass> omodo: Gnome is more memory intensive than XFCE. It uses, when idle, AFAIK at least, about 100MB of RAM. So if you've only got that much, not much is left for applications...
[08:45] <DaveyJ> i have a noob question :) -- i'm installing flock.. how do i make a pointer to the .sh in /usr/bin .. or is that a bad idea all together?
[08:45] <neutrinomass> DaveyJ: 'pointer' you mean a link ?
[08:45] <DaveyJ> yes
[08:46] <neutrinomass> DaveyJ: Sorry, bad question. An icon on the desktop or a (symlink ) shortcut somewhere ?
[08:46] <omodo> rob138: you might have tried/touched the files being updated.
[08:46] <mheath> neutrinomass, you are wrong. Gnome idles closer to 50MB.
[08:46] <rob138> great
[08:46] <DaveyJ> just so i can launch it from terminal by typing "flock"
[08:46] <DaveyJ> or ./flock .. whatever
[08:46] <omodo> rob138: definitely if you tried doing the same thing with both Synaptic and APT simultenously.
[08:46] <rob138> ya
[08:47] <neutrinomass> mheath: Do you have any numbers for XFCE? Because of the whole point of XFCE is a lighter system, isn't it ?
[08:47] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[08:48] <mheath> neutrinomass, no numbers, but its probably down at 5 to 10
[08:48] <DaveyJ> nevermind i'll just make an icon on the desktop ;)
[08:49] <abou> which application easily compress jpg pictures in ubuntu
[08:49] <arrummzen> abou: gzip?
[08:49] <arrummzen> or bzip2?
[08:49] <neutrinomass> DaveyJ: If it's in /usr/bin, it should by executable by typing "flock.sh" in the terminal ... you can drop the .sh extension and just name it "flock" if you like that better
[08:49] <abou> no I mean, I have a jpg picture, I want to increase the compression rate (loosing quality)
[08:50] <abou> narrummzen, o I mean, I have a jpg picture, I want to increase the compression rate (loosing quality)
[08:50] <arrummzen> maybe convert?
[08:50] <neutrinomass> mheath: Impressive! So still, you have more RAM for applications (you're absolutely right, I got confused, it's ~ 100MB for an entire system running Gnome, not just gnome)
[08:51] <mheath> Speaking of RAM usage, incase  anyone is interested - I know someone who's been running the Microsoft Windows Vista builds. Vista used about 512 MB of RAM at idle on his system.
[08:51] <Ademan> heres a question bound to piss someone off, if xfce is so much faster/more efficient, whats the point in using gnome or KDE? what advantages do they offer? customizability? better "looks" ?
[08:52] <omodo> if someone only has 96MB, it's XFCE for him.
[08:52] <sethk> Ademan, run both.  you'll find out quickly enough
[08:52] <arrummzen> abou: if you need a GUI, maybe look into imagemagik or something of its osurce.
[08:52] <omodo> hehe
[08:52] <mheath> Ademan, XFCE is a window manager - it allows you to launch programs, and keep track of them  through a taskbar, launch menu, etc.
[08:52] <neutrinomass> Ademan: Some people like it better :)
[08:52] <Ademan> mheath: oh so it just replaces metacity? or whatever it is?
[08:53] <mheath> KDE and Gnome are known as "desktop environments". They have a lot of resident features that manage your desktops and applications, and allow for the complete configuration of your system.
[08:53] <omodo> hm, how is it possible I don't have JRE installed?  forgive my ignorance, but isn't it required by (the working) OpenOffice?
[08:53] <arrummzen> Ademan: they are used to show of computing power in most cases. Ig. I have a better computer so I can run KDE, but you can't, generaly that is fallowed by calling the xfce4 user a "kn00b".
[08:53] <arrummzen> omodo: no, JRE is not *required* by OpenOffice.
[08:53] <Kaja> omodo, it's not necessary.
[08:53] <mheath> Ademan, ehm, no. Metacity is a Window Manger too, but its scaled back and simple (just..manages windows) to integrate with gnome.
[08:53] <milhous> hello everyone, i'm running a dual core system and have just installed the i386 version. i notice that the SMP kernel does not come with the 386 install of 6.06 client.  could someone give me some direction as to what i need to do to get an SMP kernel?  thanks.
[08:54] <space_cadet> hi, i just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 and now by system will not boot
[08:54] <Hexidigital_> omodo:: java is not installed by default
[08:54] <Hexidigital_> omodo:: sudo apt-cache search java (in terminal)
[08:54] <omodo> arrummzen, Kaja: I see, thanks.
[08:54] <Kaja> np =)
[08:54] <Ademan> mheath: well then xfce is more than a window manager?
[08:54] <mheath> Ademan, I prefer Gnome under KDE, for its smooth integration with other Ubuntu packages, and the ability to configure your system neatly.
[08:54] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: What is the error message ?
[08:54] <space_cadet> it just sits on waiting for root filesystem
[08:54] <space_cadet> then drops to a command prompt
[08:54] <arrummzen> xfce4 is a desktop envrionment, it includes a window manager.
[08:54] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Without errors ?
[08:55] <space_cadet> yes, there are error
[08:55] <mheath> Ademan, Not really. Window managers, in their purest sense, simply manage windows - provide title bars, borders, etc.
[08:55] <Ademan> arrummzen: thats what i thought, or is there a distinction between xfce and xfce4?
[08:55] <space_cadet> some kind of bug
[08:55] <space_cadet> it's scrolled off the screen now unfortunatly
[08:55] <arrummzen> I don't think "xfce" exists...
[08:55] <arrummzen> I think xfce is slang for xfce4...
[08:55] <omodo> mheath: you mean you prefer Gnome *to* KDE, right?
[08:56] <Ademan> arrummzen: i guess its "dan saving one keystroke"
[08:56] <mheath> Ademan, thats the category metacity falls in to. The term "Window Managers" can also include programs that provide those features, plus taskbars, launchers, etc.
[08:56] <Ademan> lol
[08:56] <space_cadet> says /dev/hde1 does not exists, dropping to shell
[08:56] <arrummzen> Ademan: well, some people can't touch type numbers, only letters... so.
[08:56] <harry> who knows turbogears? please help me install it. www.turbogears.org
[08:56] <Ademan> arrummzen: yeah, i hafta look at my keyboard for numbers...
[08:56] <omodo> harry: it's a Python package.
[08:56] <omodo> harry: aren't you a Python programmer?
[08:57] <space_cadet> how do i make it boot up?
[08:57] <harry> omodo: soon to be. still getting along with it
[08:57] <omodo> omodo: try Ruby on Rails instead ;)
[08:57] <amarokker> Hello, again, all- can someone please help me to get my sound card configured, as far as i know, i can see all the kernel options enabled for emu108K
[08:57] <omodo> gem install rails
[08:57] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Does /dev/hde1 exist ? It could be an error in /etc/fstab ...
[08:57] <Cntryboy> what yahoo msger based for linux has a feature to join chat rooms from with in the msger?
[08:57] <amarokker> but when i try accessing volume control, it informs me there's no sound card
[08:57] <neutrinomass> Cntryboy: gaim
[08:57] <harry> omodo: following the instructions of the installation on that site doesnt help me or anything
[08:58] <Cntryboy> gaim lets you talk to buddies
[08:58] <space_cadet> nutrinomass: how do i fix it?
[08:58] <Cntryboy> but won't allow you to join a chat room though
[08:58] <dooglus> arrummzen: "Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for various *NIX systems" - it exists.  4 is just a version number of Xfce.
[08:58] <mheath> Cntryboy, almost every Linux based solution provides that feature, including the popular GAIM, and even the official Yahoo messenger version for Linux.
[08:58] <space_cadet> (or even check it)
[08:58] <neutrinomass> Cntryboy: Buddies->Join a Chat
[08:58] <Krhis> You can join a chat in Gaim
[08:58] <omodo> harry: try Ruby, use Rails. one significant advantage would be appearant immediately: installation is *much* easier.
[08:58] <Cntryboy> oh okay let me try it guess i over looked it
[08:58] <arrummzen> dooglus: Are you sure?
[08:58] <Krhis> ^^
[08:59] <harry> omodo: whats ruby???
[08:59] <omodo> harry: once you have Ruby and Gmes installed, it's simply "gem install rails" on the command line, and you're set.
[08:59] <dooglus> arrummzen: check with http://www.xfce.org/
[08:59] <harry> omodo: whats ruby???
[08:59] <omodo> harry: rubyonrails.org
[08:59] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Take a look in /etc/fstab (cat /etc/fstab from the command line). Are there references to /dev/hde1 ? How many hard disks do you have (not partitions, physical disks) ?
[08:59] <omodo> harry: specifically: http://rubyonrails.org/down
[09:00] <space_cadet> it says 'cat: /etc/fstab: no such file or directory
[09:00] <dooglus> arrummzen: Xfce 4.2.0 is version 4.2.0 of Xfce...
[09:00] <harry> omodo: i dont know this yet. but please help me install turbogears instead
[09:01] <space_cadet> btw, i had two hard drives, one mounted at / and the other at /mnt/hd2
[09:01] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Are you sure ? Try 'ls /etc' and look for 'fstab' in there ....
[09:01] <sethk> space_cadet, the only reason that isn't impossible is that nothing is impossible
[09:01] <omodo> harry: I don't know how to install TG. all I know is that it would be a hell of a lot more complicated than installing Rails.
[09:01] <omodo> sorry.
[09:01] <space_cadet> i have three things in there: modprobe.d evms.conf udev
[09:02] <samwiser> hello, I am a total newbie to dapperdrake, and am struggling to install it
[09:02] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: No offence, but how on earth did you manage to mess up your system that much ?
[09:02] <samwiser> I downloaded the iso to the desktop cd
[09:02] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[09:02] <dooglus> omodo: wouldn't you just "sudo apt-get install rails" to install rails?
[09:02] <space_cadet> by running the update from the drsktop
[09:02] <harry> anyone knows how to install turbogears.. their installation instructions for nix like system doesnt work.. www.turbogears.org
[09:02] <space_cadet> desktop
[09:02] <space_cadet> is my system totally screwed?
[09:02] <Cntryboy> okay back
[09:02] <Ademan> is there any way to start nautilus as root?   I tried "gksudo nautilus" which worked.. but at the same time, it spewed a bunch of errors about host authentication and stuff
[09:02] <samwiser> It seems like it is just the live cd
[09:02] <Cntryboy> but buddies/ join chat doesn't list the name of rooms though
[09:03] <dooglus> samwiser: yes
[09:03] <Cntryboy> how can I see each room I can join
[09:03] <omodo> dooglus: nah, I'd go on the safe side and let Gems handle it.
[09:03] <sethk> space_cadet, sounds like your install never completed, or you trashed your /etc directory
[09:03] <bvanaerde> samwiser: you can install ubuntu with that CD
[09:03] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: As far as _I_ know, totally. Did you update correctly ?
[09:03] <samwiser> do I have to install the 'server edition' to install it as my native os
[09:03] <neutrinomass> sethk: It's an upgrade ... :O
[09:03] <space_cadet> it said everything was okay
[09:03] <dooglus> omodo: in ubuntu, the safe thing to do is let the package manager handle it
[09:03] <samwiser> how to I do about it bvanaerde?
[09:03] <sethk> neutrinomass, ok ... :)
[09:03] <amarokker> Hello- can someone please help me with sound on dapper?
[09:03] <space_cadet> then asked to reboot
[09:03] <bvanaerde> samwiser: there should be a link on the desktop
[09:03] <neutrinomass> samwiser: Unless you are experience with Linux and want to run a full-blown server, you don't need the "server" edition ...
[09:03] <Ademan> amarokker: what seems to be the problem?
[09:03] <space_cadet> is there a straightforward and quick way to fix this?
[09:04] <omodo> dooglus: I haven't used Ubuntu much, but in the many Debian servers I've deployed, that's been my strategy.
[09:04] <Cntryboy> neutrinomass : how can I see each name of the rooms, its blank?
[09:04] <samwiser> sweet thanks bvanaerde
[09:04] <bvanaerde> did you find it?
[09:04] <Ademan> zcat[1] : is there any way to start nautilus as root?   I tried "gksudo nautilus" which worked.. but at the same time, it spewed a bunch of errors about host authentication and stuff
[09:04] <amarokker> Ademan: I had no problems with it until yesterday- i dont recall in particular what change in settings or update could have caused it
[09:04] <harry> anyone knows how to install turbogears.. their installation instructions for nix like system doesnt work.. www.turbogears.org
[09:04] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Again, somebody more knowledge than me might have a better suggestions, but I'd reinstall. Can you live without that computer for a while?
[09:04] <Cntryboy> neutrinomass?
[09:05] <Ademan> amarokker: well what are the symptoms?
[09:05] <amarokker> right now, the when i click on the gnome-volume-control, its telling me that there arent any audio devices present
[09:05] <Ademan> hrm
[09:05] <amarokker> I checked the alsamixer settings
[09:05] <zcat[1] > Ademan: it still worked though.. what's the problem? :-)
[09:05] <neutrinomass> Cntryboy: Tools->Room list ?
[09:05] <Ademan> zcat[1] : errors make me feel dirty lol
[09:05] <amarokker> to make sure nothing was muted- its not the problem - i've checked the kernel headers, evryth seems to be fine there
[09:05] <sethk> harry, what do you mean by "doesn't work"?
[09:05] <space_cadet> what a pain in the butt... you know, this is why Windows is so popular, becuase it works...
[09:05] <zcat[1] > use alt-f2 to launch iut and you won't see the errors...
[09:06] <space_cadet> but i guess i'll re-instal... thanks for the help guys
[09:06] <Cntryboy> !nvidia
[09:06] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:06] <amarokker> space_cadet: but once you get it working, then you have all the viruses and spam to get rid of
[09:06] <amarokker> and that aint easy either.
[09:06] <sethk> space_cadet, really?  funny, linux works well for me.  I have 14 systems here, no crashes now for close to 6 months
[09:06] <Ademan> alt+f2? is that a console?
[09:06] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Ubuntu works as well. When thousands of people are running an OS, it's bound to fail BADLY for at least one person ...
[09:06] <sethk> space_cadet, but it isn't for the ignorent
[09:06] <Ademan> oh, nvm haha
[09:06] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: Just like Windows. :)
[09:06] <Cntryboy> does ubuntu linux pick up my nvidia drivers automatically like windows xp? Or does it install a basic video driver?
[09:06] <zcat[1] > alt-F2 is like start > Run in windows..
[09:06] <Healot> yes
[09:07] <harry> sethk: after following the installation #1 the one thats without the easy_install.  using ez_setup.py. i always get this error. "error: /usr/include/python2.4/pyconfig.h: No such file or directory"
[09:07] <Ademan> space_cadet: once you make it past install/initial setup, you're miles ahead of windows, because you hafta TRY to get a virus lol
[09:07] <Cntryboy> healot are  talking to me
[09:07] <Cntryboy> ?
[09:07] <Healot> that's without 3D acceleration
[09:07] <Healot> I am talking to S.O.S :)
[09:07] <sethk> harry, possibly python isn't installed, or possibly it's installed in a different directory
[09:07] <Ademan> when do i get AIGLX ?!?! :'(
[09:08] <Ademan> arrummzen: XGL done right
[09:08] <Healot> Cntryboy: if you need 3D acceleration, follow the upcoming link
[09:08] <sethk> space_cadet, if windows is wonderful for you, go ahead and use it.  If that's the case, though, what are you doing here in the first place?
[09:08] <Healot> !nv
[09:08] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[09:08] <harry> sethk: how can you say it.??
[09:08] <Healot> !nvidia
[09:08] <ubotu> [nvidia]  a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:08] <arrummzen> Ademan: what was wrong with GLX?
[09:08] <space_cadet> i can't beleive running the updater totally trashed my system - now i have to re-install, that's *hours wasted* of installating, configuring, etc, etc...
[09:08] <Cntryboy> i got that site im about to look at
[09:08] <Cntryboy> but does ubuntu install generic video drivers at install of ubuntu?
[09:08] <zcat[1] > space_cadet: updating from what?
[09:08] <harry> sethk: python is installed already
[09:09] <space_cadet> i'm just astonished this software could be so bad
[09:09] <sethk> harry, that file is part of a standard python installation.  If it is missing, python may be missing, or python may have been installed using directories other than the default directories
[09:09] <space_cadet> from 5.10 (which worked perfectly)
[09:09] <arrummzen> I meant what is wrong with XGL =)
[09:09] <sethk> harry, try this:  locate pyconfig.h
[09:09] <Ademan> arrummzen: nothing's WRONG per se, but if you go to AIGLX's project site they give pretty convincing material as to why their solution is better, first off, its incremental, rather than swapping out the entire X server, they just require an extension.  Second, XGL was hidden from the public at one point? I dont like that
[09:09] <neutrinomass> space_cadet: The update worked flawlessly for many people, so perhaps you did something wrong? I suggest you file a bug ....
[09:09] <sethk> harry, also, you need (if you are using the package manager) both python and the development parts of python
[09:09] <zcat[1] > Yeah, I was pretty dissapointed too.. not a great upgrade path ...
[09:09] <Cntryboy> no one knows?
[09:10] <harry> sethk: the locate command doesnt work: nothing shows up
[09:10] <sethk> Cntryboy, it installs the best drivers it can find
[09:10] <space_cadet> neutrinomass: i didn't really select any special options, just followed the prompts...
[09:10] <sethk> harry, only one of those things can be true
[09:10] <arrummzen> Ademan: Does AIGLX support something akin to XGL's Xglx?
[09:10] <Ademan> arrummzen: hehe i didnt even read GLX i read XGL, GLX is beautiful, i use it every day :-), well, not directly, i let SDL handle it for me... but meh
[09:10] <Cntryboy> but, not the nvidia drivers which are better right?
[09:10] <sethk> harry, either it doesn't work, or it doesn't find the file, but not both
[09:10] <sethk> Cntryboy, if you need 3d, yes
[09:10] <sethk> Cntryboy, otherwise, doesn't matter much
[09:10] <Ademan> arrummzen: xglx?
[09:10] <zcat[1] > I'm not even sure where to start filing a bug, so many things broke. And some of it was probably my own fault..
[09:10] <Cntryboy> oh so the nvidia is for 3d support
[09:11] <Cntryboy> what I have now doesn't support 3d right?
[09:11] <arrummzen> Ademan: it basiclly lets you use OpenGL for your X servers output.
[09:11] <sethk> harry, only my system, locate pyconfig.h shows /usr/include/python2.4/pyconfig.h
[09:11] <sethk> harry, so, you haven't installed all the required pieces of python
[09:11] <Ademan> paste the output onto a couple polygons?
[09:11] <sethk> harry, required for turbogears, that is
[09:11] <Ademan> er rather, convert to a texture and paste onto a couple of polygons
[09:11] <linuxboy> why do many updates in dapper-updates ?
[09:12] <sethk> harry, run synaptic, search for python, and find the development package for python 2.4
[09:12] <harry> sethk: how do i install those.. i dont even what are the required ones. i'm just getting started...
[09:12] <harry> sethk:ok
[09:12] <sethk> harry, I just said.  :)  run synaptic ... :)
[09:12] <leonassan> How can I alias a directory in apache? For example, I want it to just be /monkeys, instead of /user/cgi-bin/monkeys
[09:12] <sethk> harry, I don't remember the exact name, but it should be evident.
[09:13] <zcat[1] > leonassan: ln -s /usr/cgi-bin/monkeys /monkeys
[09:13] <leonassan> what's ln -s stand for so I'll remember it?
[09:13] <zcat[1] > symbolic link
[09:13] <Ademan> symbolic
[09:13] <Hobbsee> leonassan: symlink
[09:13] <Ademan> hehe, 3 of the same answer
[09:13] <sethk> harry, there is a package "python2.4-dev"
[09:13] <zcat[1] > one answer, three inode references to it?
[09:13] <leonassan> Alright, because some of the stuff I used to use needs wierd linking like that, thanks :)
[09:14] <sethk> harry, install that one to start with.  It's probably the one with that file
[09:14] <space_cadet> thanks for your input guys
[09:14] <harry> sethk: i've been on that one
[09:14] <harry> sethk:still the same error
[09:14] <makko> while getting more and more updates, will dapper have new releases like the fedora "respins"?
[09:14] <Hexidigital_> anyone know if the LAMP server template is available from the flight 6 cd, or should i just configure it myself with a Server install?
[09:14] <sethk> harry, I just checked, and indeed python2.4-dev installs /usr/include/python2.4/pyconfig.h
[09:15] <Ademan> anyone here use evolution?
[09:15] <eobanb> Hexidigital_, why would you use flight 6
[09:15] <leonassan> I've been working on ressurecting this server for 15 hours now
[09:15] <leonassan> My brain is pudding.
[09:15] <sethk> harry, if it was installed, locate would have listed it
[09:15] <arrummzen> leonassan: what happend to it?
[09:15] <neutrinomass> cairo is an SVG renderer, right ?
[09:15] <Hexidigital_> eobanb:: that what i had installed before the official release
[09:15] <sethk> harry, unless you installed python2.4-dev recently.
[09:15] <sethk> harry, if you installed python2.4-dev since the last time updatedb was run, you can do one of two things
[09:15] <Hexidigital_> eobanb:: it updated to official Dapper now, though...
[09:15] <leonassan> The primary harddisk exploded
[09:15] <sethk> harry, first, run the updatedb command
[09:15] <eobanb> Hexidigital_, well in any case, if you have a fully-update system, you need to use updated packages
[09:15] <sethk> harry, that recreates the database of files
[09:16] <eobanb> fully-updated*
[09:16] <zcat[1] > wasn't cairo the project name for win95 too?
[09:16] <sethk> harry, then locate will find the file, if it is there.   or...
[09:16] <eobanb> Hexidigital_, are you talking about installing from scratch again?
[09:16] <Hexidigital_> eobanb:: it not on this system... yes, on a new server
[09:16] <sethk> harry, you can do this:  find / -name pyconfig.h
[09:16] <leonassan> So to be safe, I copied everything off the raid-mirror drive to my removable drive, and that took ages..
[09:16] <sethk> harry, which is slow but doesn't depend on the database
[09:16] <sethk> harry, more simply, just do this:   ls /usr/include/python2.4/pyconfig.h
[09:16] <leonassan> this whole project actually started 28 hours ago
[09:16] <harry> sethk: what version are you using?? i'm on dapper 6.06
[09:16] <Ademan> no one here uses evolution mail?
[09:17] <harry> sethk: when i tried the ls, there is no such file directory
[09:17] <eobanb> Hexidigital_, if this is any kind of production system i would just use apt to install apache, mysql, php, whatever, myself with a server install from an LTS disc
[09:17] <M_Cheevy> anyone else here have trouble with pcmcia when using 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'?
[09:17] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, i do, what about it?
[09:17] <arrummzen> LasseL: =(
[09:17] <Hexidigital_> eobanb:: thanks
[09:17] <sethk> harry, then either python2.4-dev was not installed, or something has changed for dapper - but that is extremely unlikely.  that is a very commonly used python file.
[09:18] <ChakRa> i am using dapper to host a samba server. Now i want to use active directory on a windows 2003 DS for authentication. Question is how to make samba a subdomain so i can integrate samba with active directory????. If any one can suggest somethink that would be great.
[09:18] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: how does it match up to thunderbird? i've been using thunderbird but i'm kinda forced to use evolution for the scheduling stuff, shoudl i use it for mail too?
[09:18] <harry> sethk: how do you install it in terminal or with synaptic
[09:18] <sethk> harry, from a command line, sudo apt-get install python2.4-dev
[09:18] <eobanb> ChakRa, integrate it how, exactly?
[09:18] <zcat[1] > does evolution detect/filter spam and phish emails?
[09:19] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, they both have their advantages and disadvantages. i personally like evolution for its pgp support
[09:19] <sethk> harry, from synaptic, do the search as I described earlier, then right click on the package, chose "mark for installation", then click on apply
[09:19] <eobanb> zcat[1] , yes, evo has a spam filter...not a phishing filter though, as far as i know.
[09:19] <ChakRa> like host file server on samba and people who are in active directory on win server can access those shared drives
[09:19] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, tho, if u have to use it for one thing, might as well use it for everything :P
[09:19] <eobanb> zcat[1] , a phishing filter is more a responsibility of the user's own common sense anyway (as in, don't click on links in emails!'
[09:19] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: haha ok thanks
[09:19] <ChakRa> eobanb, that thing i am trying to run away from is making account for each single user that i have in active directory
[09:19] <harry> sethk: the python 2.4-dev is already installed in the synaptic..
[09:19] <arrummzen> DarkMageZ: emacs
[09:20] <sethk> harry, something is seriously messed up, then, on your system.
[09:20] <harry> sethk: but theres a python-all-dev still not installed
[09:20] <sethk> harry, go ahead and install it, but the file is part of python2.4-dev (I checked)
[09:20] <zcat[1] > eobanb: yeah, I think I have my wife trained.. at least I don't have to worry about viruses and spyware, but phishing could still be a problem.
[09:20] <ChakRa> eobanb, so the thing i am trying to accomplsih is i use samba machine as a subdomain and win 2003 k server as the DS
[09:20] <sethk> harry, unless dapper made a change there too, but that's extremely unlikely
[09:20] <sethk> harry, but it can't hurt to install python-all-dev
[09:21] <eobanb> zcat[1] , well there are anti-phishing firefox extensions out there
[09:21] <harry> sethk: thats what i thought also..
[09:21] <protocol2> !samba
[09:21] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[09:21] <zcat[1] > eobanb: good point, hadn't thought of solving the problem there...
[09:21] <n30n> I need a good FTP acess program
[09:21] <leonassan> Do I need to do anything to get CGI to work under apache? Also, where should I put scripts?
[09:21] <eobanb> ChakRa, i think it'd probably be easier if you did openldap and samba on one ubuntu box :P
[09:21] <MenZa> n30n: Nautilus.
[09:21] <n30n> !ftp
[09:21] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[09:21] <n30n> MenZa: thank you
[09:21] <MenZa> n30n: not at all.
[09:21] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[09:22] <eobanb> leonassan, perhaps in your cgi-bin directory in /var/www ?
[09:22] <someothernick> gftp is cool
[09:22] <arrummzen> ubotu: don't forget ftp the command line ftp clinet.
[09:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrummzen
[09:22] <leonassan> so just put all scripts in /var/www/cgi-bin and they should work?
[09:22] <leonassan> !perl
[09:22] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, leonassan
[09:22] <ChakRa> ubotu, thanks for the links they will be helpful i am sure
[09:22] <ubotu> de nada, ChakRa
[09:22] <zcat[1] > Sue doesn't like compiz.. the wobbling effect makes her feel sick..
[09:22] <eobanb> leonassan, with specific apache questions you're probably better off asking in #apache
[09:22] <ChakRa> eobanb, thats the part i am kind of like ahhh what to do . How to install LDAP and kerberos libraries
[09:23] <leonassan> Good thinking, but you guys are so much fun to be around! :)
[09:23] <eobanb> ChakRa, ubotu is not a real person
[09:23] <ChakRa> o lol
[09:23] <harry> sethk: did you have any trouble installing turbogears on yours??? what linux are  you using??
[09:23] <ChakRa> was just going with the flow i guess ~__~
[09:23] <rixth> !ubotu
[09:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:23] <n30n> MenZa: Isn't it already installed on ubuntu? how do i run it
[09:23] <sethk> harry, I've installed it on both ubuntu and fedora, without any problems
[09:24] <MenZa> n30n: Nautilus is the very window you use to browse files
[09:24] <harry> sethk: on what ubuntu???
[09:24] <sethk> harry, and the problem you are having is nearly the very beginning of the install
[09:24] <MenZa> I think it's... the tab next to 'Applications' -> Connect to
[09:24] <vocogo> no jsem z toho zmaten
[09:24] <n30n> MenZa: i see. how do i connect to my webserver with it
[09:24] <sethk> the current one (or at least the one that was current about two months ago).  I can never remember the release names.
[09:24] <harry> sethk: are you still using breezy???
[09:24] <ChakRa> eobanb, the problem is when i look for help all the turorials are how to install LDAP and kerberos in Unix. Need help where i can get similar commands for dapper
[09:24] <eobanb> ChakRa, have you checked the ubuntu forums?
[09:24] <sethk> harry, breezy is old, I think.
[09:25] <n30n> MenZa: Connect to server?
[09:25] <MenZa> Yep.
[09:25] <Locke_> breezy beaver
[09:25] <MenZa> That's the one.
[09:25] <Locke_> heh
[09:25] <eobanb> badger.
[09:25] <Kaja> 8D
[09:25] <Amaranth> breezy is the 2nd newest
[09:25] <Locke_> lol i know
[09:25] <ome_> Whats a good mp3 player for gnome?
[09:25] <Amaranth> dapper is newest
[09:25] <MenZa> Boofin Beaver
[09:25] <Cntryboy> what does this mean :   If you are going to compile 3D applications, install nvidia-glx-dev
[09:25] <MenZa> ome_: Listen
[09:25] <ome_> thanks
[09:25] <MenZa> http://listengnome.free.fr @ ome_
[09:25] <Healot> yeah right thurr
[09:25] <harry> sethk: so you tried installing it in 6.06 LTS?? and it worked fine on yours
[09:25] <Locke_> how do i get dri support for my geforce4 mx 420
[09:25] <Locke_> on 6.06
[09:25] <eobanb> ome_, try xmms, amarok, rhythmbox, banshee ....see what you like
[09:26] <Locke_> xmms for mp3s
[09:26] <sethk> what's the command that shows the ubuntu version again?  I rarely use it and never remember it
[09:26] <Locke_> period
[09:26] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: If you don't know what it means you probably don't need it. It's for when you want to compile from source apps that use OpenGL.
[09:26] <harry> sethk: maybe i should change the source.list again like the ones on breezy then try installing turbogears
[09:26] <eobanb> !tell Locke_ about nvidia
[09:26] <Cntryboy> so to be able to play 3d games like UT i don't need it right?
[09:26] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Right.
[09:26] <Cntryboy> okay
[09:26] <sethk> harry, I can't really say if that makes sense because I don't really know what the root cause of your problem is.
[09:26] <eobanb> Cntryboy, no, you don't need -dev
[09:26] <Cntryboy> what about xconfig
[09:26] <eobanb> Cntryboy, you just need the nvidia driver.
[09:26] <Locke_> ...
[09:26] <Amaranth> don
[09:27] <eobanb> Cntryboy, what about it
[09:27] <Amaranth> err, don't need it
[09:27] <Locke_> not working
[09:27] <Cntryboy> or nvidia-settings do I need that?
[09:27] <sethk> harry, but if python 2.4 is installed, pyconfig.h absolutely should be there, and in the standard location.
[09:27] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: You can't install those.
[09:27] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: They conflict with the nvidia-glx package.
[09:27] <Locke_> oh
[09:27] <Locke_> n/m
[09:27] <ChakRa> eobanb, if you can just tell me the command to install openldap ill try to get things moving from there.
[09:27] <Cntryboy> okay
[09:27] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: I know at least nvidia-xconfig is actually in nvidia-glx
[09:27] <CrashProne> I have a Audigy sound card (specific card unimportant) but either way, I can't seem to find an option to change the sound card NWN is running off of, it always uses my onboard.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[09:28] <Amaranth> CrashProne: Can you disable the onboard in your BIOS?
[09:28] <eobanb> !tell CrashProne about sound
[09:28] <sethk> harry, I am using the standard breezy sources.list
[09:28] <protocol2> does anyone know what ports should be open to use samba?
[09:28] <harry> sethk: i tried searching the pyconfig.h... even on the gui, thees nothing
[09:28] <Cntryboy> yeah but i have to install the legacy one
[09:28] <protocol2> on my router*
[09:28] <sethk> harry, that's not how you search for a file
[09:28] <Cntryboy> I have a geforce 2 gts
[09:28] <eobanb> ChakRa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ldap&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[09:28] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: I dunno then.
[09:28] <sethk> harry, to find which package contains a file, you use apt-file
[09:28] <ome_> nice xmms is sweet
[09:28] <Cntryboy> k
[09:29] <sethk> harry, install apt-file,  then do apt-file update,   then do:  apt-file search pyconfig.h
[09:29] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: You don't really need either one of those other packages though. They just do extra things.
[09:29] <Karhuton> Can I get the update info for a specific package from the command line?
[09:29] <CrashProne> Oh, last time I disabled the onboard did bad things.  That and I actually intend on using both (1 for Teamspeak, 1 for NWN) and I can't get TS working on the sound card-- it always sends a copy of whatever came through the speakers, over the headset.
[09:29] <harry> sethk: how do i change my sources.list, the sudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list doesnt work
[09:29] <Karhuton> I want to know if I need to upgrade a package
[09:29] <Amaranth> Karhuton: You need the changelog?
[09:29] <sethk> harry, if that's really what you typed, you left out the / before etc
[09:29] <Karhuton> Amaranth: I guess so
[09:29] <neutrinomass> harry: it's "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:29] <Cntryboy> k
[09:29] <Amaranth> Karhuton: You can find the changelog on changelogs.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <ChakRa> thanks much eobanb
[09:29] <Karhuton> Amaranth: thanks
[09:30] <protocol2> i think im better off sticking with ftp than using samba
[09:30] <Cntryboy> will these drivers give me settings to brighten up desktop pictures screens ect like in windows
[09:30] <Cntryboy> or even games?
[09:30] <troy_s> protocol2: ssh beats both hands down
[09:31] <protocol2> troy_s, I use that too...;)
[09:31] <dooglus> protocol2: why would you ever use ftp if you have scp?
[09:31] <protocol2> dooglus, im a newb
[09:31] <troy_s> protocol2: Exactly as dooglus said... learn sftp, scp, etc.
[09:31] <Cntryboy> so for linux-restricted-modules do I check all that says 386 no matter the driver number?
[09:32] <protocol2> troy_s, that would'nt hurt to check that out
[09:32] <Locke_> i really hope my hd doesnt run out of space
[09:32] <Locke_> can i resize my partitions with partitionmagic 8?
[09:32] <Locke_> or will it fuck em up
[09:33] <eobanb> Locke_, i suggest you try a gparted live cd
[09:33] <R0cK3T> i use partition majic
[09:33] <R0cK3T> works great
[09:33] <dooglus> I just used FTP for the first time this year.  still 123-reg.co.uk's web hosting plan doesn't provide scp access, only FTP
[09:33] <R0cK3T> even resized windows partitions a couple times
[09:33] <eobanb> dooglus, change providers immediately
[09:34] <Cntryboy> anyone know for linux-restricted-modules do I check all three modules that have 365 no matter package numbers at the end?
[09:34] <protocol2> dooglus, so sftp uses port 22?
[09:34] <CrashProne> I read in a tutorial (old I guess) that there was a section in system > preferences > multimedia where you could choose separately where your input and output is done from (oss, alsa).. where is the equivalent in Dapper, as I can't seem to find it!
[09:34] <eobanb> protocol2, yes.
[09:34] <troy_s> protocol2: ssh uses 22 sftp is ssh, scp is ssh etc.
[09:34] <protocol2> cool.. I 'll check it out
[09:34] <aisasistemas> Bill Gates say bye bye to M$.
[09:35] <aisasistemas> :)
[09:35] <dooglus> protocol2: yes
[09:35] <Hexidigital_> aisasistemas:: not entirely
[09:35] <Cntryboy> amaranth are you still here?
[09:35] <Hexidigital_> aisasistemas:: he no longer chief archiect
[09:35] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: mostly
[09:35] <dooglus> protocol2: to answer your samba question, I think smb uses 'portmap', which means it uses a whole range of ports
[09:35] <Cntryboy> anyone know for linux-restricted-modules do I check all three modules that have 365 no matter package numbers at the end?
[09:35] <zcat[1] > what are the possible consequences of Bill's partial exit?
[09:35] <eobanb> Cntryboy, ...'365'??
[09:36] <nostZZZZZ> zcat[1] , no more borg jokes on /.
[09:36] <xsquared> hello, i have a large question.. I have 2 networks. My computer is on both networks. I would like my computer to act as a gateway between both the networks (to create a big network). I would like it so that both sides can receive direct connections. 1 network is connected to the internet and their gateways are set to my internet router. How can i achieve this?
[09:36] <Hexidigital_> zcat[1] :: consequences for whom?
[09:36] <Cntryboy> 386
[09:36] <Cntryboy> i mean
[09:36] <eobanb> Cntryboy, uh, well what modules do you need?
[09:36] <dooglus> eobanb: really?  I only just managed to get FTP access - until now they were insisting I use their broken 'web site builder' software!
[09:36] <zcat[1] > I've heard the news, I'm not sure what it is likely to lead too... no major change of strategy at MSFT I assume?
[09:36] <eobanb> dooglus, i just highly suggest you use ssh instead of ftp...ssh is far more secure
[09:36] <CrashProne> I read in a tutorial (old I guess) that there was a section in system > preferences > multimedia where you could choose separately where your input and output is done from (oss, alsa).. where is the equivalent in Dapper, as I can't seem to find it!
[09:36] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Don't pay attention to that part, the version of linux-restricted-modules that you need should be installed already
[09:37] <Hexidigital_> zcat[1] :: if you mean MS becoming Open Source.... :P
[09:37] <zcat[1] > so does it reallly make and difference?
[09:37] <Cntryboy> going by guidelines on that binarydriverhowto nvidia
[09:37] <harry> sethk: whats the command again on updating the apt-file???
[09:37] <Cntryboy> says go to linux-restricted-modules and check which applies to me
[09:37] <Amaranth> harry: sudo apt-file update
[09:37] <xsquared> bill still owns the company. nothing much will change
[09:37] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Yeah, the one you need should already be installed.
[09:37] <neutrinomass> harry: apt-file update ?
[09:37] <Cntryboy> ok so ignore that
[09:37] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:37] <sethk> harry, as Amaranth  said.
[09:37] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Yep.
[09:37] <erUSUL> zcat[1] : Hexidigital_ chit-chat at #ubuntu-offtopic please ;)
[09:37] <Hexidigital_> erUSUL:: sorry
[09:37] <harry> sethk: and after that whats next???
[09:38] <sethk> harry, apt-file search pyconfig.h
[09:38] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:38] <harry> sethk: thats exactly the command???
[09:38] <dooglus> xsquared: it's a public company.
[09:38] <sethk> harry, yes
[09:38] <protocol2> will my ftp/webserver still work with firestarter installed?
[09:39] <Hexidigital_> protocol2:: as long as you configure the correct ports to be open, yes
[09:39] <xsquared> its still going to fail.
[09:39] <CrashProne> How can I configure the settings in my Audigy so that when I try to run my mic off it, it'll actually HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING instead of hearing everything that comes goes to the speakers also!
[09:39] <protocol2> ok got ya
[09:39] <eobanb> xsquared, microsoft flamewars for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:40] <xsquared> no thanks
[09:40] <sethk> harry, have to go now, it's 3:40 AM here. but others here know everything that I do  :)
[09:40] <xsquared> i just want someone to answer my question
[09:40] <harry> sethk: can you recommend someone???
[09:40] <Kismet> Hi All! I've problem with LVM, after exteding a LV , I'm not able to extented the XFS on it beacuse the system do not see any free space on LV even if there are, any tips?
[09:40] <zcat[1] > CrashProne: On the mixer app in gnome there's two icons down the bottom.. the 'mic' one sends that input to be recorded, the 'speaker' one sends it through to the card's output.. you want only the 'mic' one enabled
[09:41] <slvmchn> hey, in /etc/security/limits.conf, how do i set the limits for realtime access? and what do said limits control exactly?
[09:41] <rundy> Hi all, I'm having trouble downgrading mysql-server on dapper
[09:41] <slvmchn> this is after compiling Rlimits-Aware PAM
[09:41] <Hexidigital_> rundy:: why are you downgrading? always a bad idea
[09:41] <pitti> rundy: never try to downgrade
[09:41] <slvmchn> off ubuntustudio.com
[09:41] <CrashProne> zcat[1] : and... what if... there's only a speaker icon under my mic line?
[09:42] <rundy> I installed mysql-server 5.1, and I have an app that wants 4.1
[09:42] <rundy> sorry 5.0
[09:42] <Hexidigital_> rundy:: did you try to upgrade that app?
[09:42] <rundy> i'm playing with vtiger crm
[09:42] <rundy> it doesn't support it
[09:43] <CrashProne> zcat[1] : Even with all my options on in the mixer, it STILL has nothing under the recording section, which is REALLY strange.
[09:43] <dodol> hi rundy
[09:43] <Hexidigital_> rundy:: afaik, the only way to downgrade is to backup, deinstall, and install
[09:43] <neutrinomass> I'm going to buy a laptop : What should I pay attention to in terms of Linux-compatability (graphics, wireless )
[09:43] <dodol> can help me
[09:43] <CrashProne> Nothing EVER is in the capture section!  :-O
[09:43] <Hexidigital_> neutrinomass:: WIRELESS!!
[09:43] <Cntryboy> taking its sweet time dling with this crappy dialup 2.1KB shit
[09:43] <zcat[1] > Yeah, that is strange...
[09:43] <Hexidigital_> neutrinomass:: wireless is a pain in the rear
[09:43] <dodol> hi, all
[09:43] <rundy> Hexidigital_, I tried removing 5.0 and install 4.1, but that didn't work
[09:43] <rundy> I'm only using the server install
[09:43] <Hexidigital_> neutrinomass:: especially if you end up with a Broadcom chipset
[09:44] <Hexidigital_> rundy:: i dont deal with MySql, i just know that downgrading is NEVER recommended
[09:44] <neutrinomass> Hexidigital_: Any suggestions ? What wireless should I try to get ?
[09:44] <harry> Amaranth: after performing the apt-file search pyconfig.h
[09:45] <Amaranth> harry: ?
[09:45] <harry> Amaranth: what do i do next to install pyconfig.h??
[09:45] <rundy> Hexidigital_, thanks, i'll have to just do the install again, no sweat
[09:45] <Hexidigital_> neutrinomass:: well, i was lucky enough to get my broadcom working, but it was a royal pain... as far as specific cards, i dont know
[09:45] <Amaranth> harry: what did it find?
[09:45] <Amaranth> harry: install python-dev
[09:45] <slvmchn>  in /etc/security/limits.conf, how do i set the limits for realtime access?
[09:45] <neutrinomass> Hexidigital_: Ok, I'll keep that in mind . Thanks.
[09:45] <harry> Amaranth: this one harry@ubuntu:~$ apt-file search pyconfig.h
[09:45] <harry> python2.2-dev: usr/include/python2.2/pyconfig.h
[09:45] <harry> python2.3-dev: usr/include/python2.3/pyconfig.h
[09:45] <harry> python2.4-dev: usr/include/python2.4/pyconfig.h
[09:47] <CrashProne> I have no options in the 'Capture' sections of the settings for my Audigy, and thus can't record!  Help?
[09:47] <harry> Amaranth: how will i know if already have the pyconfig.h??
[09:48] <zcat[1] > CrashProne: File > ChangeDevice   .. is there more than one Mixer available ?
[09:48] <CrashProne> 'File'?
[09:49] <zcat[1] > in gnome volume control, assuming you use gnome.. kmix probably has something similar..
[09:49] <CrashProne> Sure there are.
[09:49] <Cntryboy> im downloading this still for nvidia, but does anyone know the site to go to that explains how to install unreal tournament?
[09:50] <CrashProne> And I CAN record with my onboard device.  But I NEED to be able to with my sound CARD.. :-S
[09:51] <rob138> how come beagle/nautilus search won't return images that aren't in /home/?
[09:51] <Cntryboy> ?
[09:51] <zcat[1] > Just pondering.. one of my soundcards seems to have two mixer devices associated with it.. alsa and oss ..
[09:51] <Cntryboy> !unrealtournament
[09:51] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cntryboy
[09:52] <Cntryboy> amaranth still around?
[09:52] <zcat[1] > I'm out of my depth.. someone else hopefully knows the answer :)
[09:54] <zcat[1] > rob138: the default is to only search in your home directory, if you tell it to look in / it should find anything you have read access to..
[09:54] <eric_o> Anyone here?
[09:55] <zcat[1] > 822 people here..
[09:55] <zcat[1] > give or take a few...
[09:55] <eric_o> i've juste installed ubuntu
[09:56] <jahshua> w00t
[09:56] <tripppy> whats a good network traffic regulator? priotise traffic?
[09:56] <eric_o> but the picture are distorted
[09:58] <eric_o> i would try to install new drives if i could se anything but i dont
[09:58] <zcat[1] > ctrl-alt-F1 might help, that will give you a text login which should be useable for fixing things.
[09:58] <pd273> has anyone got Radeon 9200 to work with fglrx
[09:58] <eric_o> thanks
[10:00] <zcat[1] > then login and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" -- it's quite likely the install has got your screen settings wrong .. reconfigure with more conservative numbers and it should work better.
[10:00] <Cntryboy> I can't get this nvidia to work
[10:00] <tripppy> whats a good network traffic regulator? priotise traffic?
[10:00] <zcat[1] > which nvidia, Cntryboy?
[10:01] <Cntryboy> the legasy
[10:01] <Cntryboy> legacy
[10:01] <Cntryboy> on this step here sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:01] <zcat[1] > you did apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[10:01] <Cntryboy> I got error Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:01] <Ademan> anyone here good with python?
[10:02] <Cntryboy> nope I went through synaptic package manager
[10:02] <Cntryboy> followed binarydriverhowto nvidia page
[10:02] <Cntryboy> ive even tried changing driver section to nvidia when it was on nv
[10:02] <zcat[1] > ahh ok... 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and find the line that mentions "nv" -- change that to "nvidia" and save the file again...
[10:02] <Cntryboy> I did that
[10:02] <piratepenguin> would ubuntu 6.06 setup my wireless card automatically using ndiswrapper?
[10:03] <zcat[1] > hmmmm... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and build a clean config then..
[10:03] <zcat[1] > usually works for me :)
[10:03] <Cntryboy> im not good with linux if I do this
[10:03] <Cntryboy> will it screw me if I cant reconfigure it?
[10:04] <zcat[1] > Just pick the defaults for almost everything (but nvidia not nv for the driver) and when you get to the monitor settings pick 'medium' and how many inches you screen is.. won't be the best config but it's almost guaranteed to be a working one
[10:05] <zcat[1] > It will keep a backup of your current config in /etc/X11 so you can always go back anyhow..
[10:05] <eric_o> is nv short for nvidia
[10:06] <Healot> NO VIDEO :)
[10:06] <xsquared> eric_o, nv is the basic drivers
[10:06] <xsquared> nvidia has opengl support etc.
[10:06] <zcat[1] > nv is the open-source nvidia drivers, nvidia is the closed-source binary driver
[10:07] <eric_o> ok... cant find nvidia...only nv
[10:07] <zcat[1] > the open source drivers don't use all the undocumented 3d features...
[10:07] <eobanb> eric_o, did you install the nvidia driver?
[10:07] <eobanb> !tell eric_o about nvidia
[10:07] <eric_o> never got an option to do it
[10:08] <eobanb> eric_o, ...?
[10:08] <eobanb> read the link ubotu sent, please.
[10:08] <zcat[1] > ahh.. after you installed nvidia-glx-legacy and the other packages it depends on, did you reboot? It might not have added some kernel modules until you do..
[10:08] <eric_o> i've rebooted...
[10:09] <CrashProne> Is there a way to reset alsamixer settings to their originally installed state?? O_O
[10:09] <CrashProne> PLEASE
[10:09] <eric_o> but i did not get any option to install ...
[10:09] <Guardian> Seveas please, could you remove the *!*@mar44-1-87-90-32-28.dsl.club-internet.fr ban on #unbuntu ?
[10:09] <akudewan> CrashProne: maybe you could try sudo apt-get reinstall alsamixer, not sure if it'll work though
[10:10] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure alsamixer perhaps?
[10:10] <CrashProne> but that's just a mixer proograamm... right?  Do you think it'd definitely reset my audio settings?  They're ruined..
[10:10] <CrashProne> And I didn't change the output AT ALL but it is gone nonetheless.
[10:11] <akudewan> yes, alsamixer just controls volume
[10:13] <liquidindian> I have a problem - it seems that my hard drive in laptop is kaput.  I won't be able to replace it for another two months, but I have an external hard drive.  Is it possible to install an operating system on this?  (It doesn't seem to start working normally until the boot-up dialogue says starting hotplug system)
[10:13] <eobanb> eric_o, just follow the instructions on the page
[10:13] <akudewan> CrashProne: this page might help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[10:14] <zcat[1] > liquidindian: If your laptop can be configured to boot from USB it should be possible. It might not be easy though...
[10:14] <liquidindian> Stupid earthquakes.
[10:14] <Hexidigital_> !noip
[10:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital_
[10:14] <zcat[1] > !voip
[10:14] <ubotu> zcat[1] : I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:15] <liquidindian> zcat[1] , How can I check if it can boot from USB?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > alt-F1 or DEL or something at bootup to get into BIOS, look for the boot order settings and see if it will let you set USB drives as a boot device
[10:16] <liquidindian> zcat[1] , And is it possible to install ubuntu without over-writing the info on there?
[10:17] <zcat[1] > liquidindian: probably not if the existing filesystem isn't ext2 or ext3 ..
[10:17] <liquidindian> zcat[1] , it's ext3
[10:17] <zcat[1] > Cool, shouldn't be too much of a problem then..
[10:17] <liquidindian> Okay, I'll check this USB thing
[10:18] <zcat[1] > just move all the existing stuff into a subfolder first and tell the installer not to reformat....
[10:18] <zcat[1] > I'd make a back up first though if you can..
[10:19] <liouncourt> hello!
[10:21] <MojOrow> can somone explain why being up in the middle of the night brings so much distain by a parental figure?
[10:21] <liouncourt> i need some help
[10:21] <liouncourt> can somebody help me?
[10:22] <eobanb> !helpme
[10:22] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[10:22] <liouncourt> :)
[10:22] <duckdown> Hey all.. I was trying to install GLFTPD but it installed itself with inetd.  Apparently I don't even have inetd on this system though.  What does Ubuntu use instead?
[10:22] <liouncourt> i use for the first time ubuntu
[10:22] <eobanb> liouncourt, what is your question?
[10:22] <liouncourt> actually a linux distribution
[10:23] <eric_o> i've read the link, but to follow those instructions i have to be in desktop, i want to do it in text mode
[10:23] <Pilgrim> One question, how do i load the i686 kernel when i  boots the cd and wants to install?
[10:24] <liouncourt> how can i transfer some file from partition of windows on partition of ubuntu?
[10:24] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[10:24] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[10:24] <gdb> Pilgrim: After you've installed the system, log in normally and do "sudo apt-get install linux-image-686".
[10:24] <liouncourt> k
[10:24] <liouncourt> thanks
[10:24] <zcat[1] > you're welcome..
[10:24] <Pilgrim> GdB: not possible to load it as default ?
[10:25] <gdb> Pilgrim: Not to my knowlege.  The only control you have over the installer is partitioning.
[10:25] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[10:25] <ubotu> thanks zcat[1]  :)
[10:25] <Pilgrim> ok.
[10:25] <zcat[1] > He's so handy :)
[10:26] <eobanb> Pilgrim, as far as i know you can probably pass an argument to grub when you're first booting the disc
[10:26] <sbaird> Im having a problem instaling ubuntu on a ppc when i try to boot the install cd (or the live cd) when holding down the 'c' key it starts reading the cd then just boots mac os can any one help
[10:26] <CrashProne> NEED TO KNOW:  How can I wipe all my prior sound card mixer settings for the Ubuntu installed default (without losing anything?!!)
[10:26] <eobanb> Pilgrim, i'm not sure if that installs the 686 kernel though when you actually run the installer
[10:26] <eobanb> Pilgrim, there is a text-mode installer available if you need more options
[10:27] <eobanb> sbaird, are you sure you've burnt the disc correctly
[10:27] <Pilgrim> eobanb: ok, thanks, should be possible to load the i686 kernel
[10:27] <sbaird> its one of the properones
[10:27] <sbaird> proper ones
[10:27] <eobanb> sbaird, have you had trouble booting from other discs?
[10:27] <Pilgrim> will try to figure out on vmware, thanks
[10:27] <Ekumba> hello
[10:27] <sbaird> only tryed mac os and that worked
[10:28] <zcat[1] > what mac ?
[10:28] <munckfish> Hi can anyone remind me the name of the package which provides the graphical boot up?
[10:28] <sbaird> 8.0
[10:28] <Pilgrim> btw!, vmware and ubuntu. anyone isntalled that ?
[10:28] <sbaird> on a g3
[10:28] <zcat[1] > is it a new mac or beige G3 ?
[10:28] <Ekumba> i want to burn some mp3 as audio files,but serpentine audio cd isn't able to burn them,because the format is unknown.what shoul i do?
[10:28] <sbaird> beige
[10:29] <eobanb> sbaird, that won't work.
[10:29] <zcat[1] > Oh dear :)
[10:29] <eobanb> sbaird, the old G3s dont have the same version of open firmware that new world macs do
[10:29] <sbaird> what linux will suport it] 
[10:29] <sbaird> what about a firmware upgrade?
[10:30] <zcat[1] > I wrote a howto for breezy but I could never get dapper to boot on my G3 :(
[10:31] <eobanb> sbaird, you can't upgrade to a new world firmware.  there are, however, various distributions that will run on it
[10:31] <Ekumba> i want to burn some mp3 as audio files,but serpentine audio cd isn't able to burn them,because the format is unknown.what shoul i do?
[10:31] <sbaird> can u recomend any?
[10:31] <eobanb> sbaird, debian
[10:31] <eobanb> sbaird, or yellow dog linux
[10:31] <Pilgrim> sbaird: slackware for ppc, :)
[10:31] <sbaird> ok thanks for your help
[10:31] <akudewan> Ekumba: I usually convert them to .wav first
[10:31] <zcat[1] > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs   -- might help
[10:32] <eobanb> ooh, nice find, zcat[1] 
[10:32] <Demosthenes> Can anyone help me with opera?
[10:32] <Ekumba> isn'T there any other programs,that can handle this?
[10:32] <Pilgrim> slackintosh
[10:32] <eobanb> oh, wait, you wrote it :P
[10:32] <Demosthenes> I installed in with automatics (opera), and it was working for a while, and then it just stopped working.
[10:33] <Demosthenes> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:33] <Demosthenes> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:33] <Demosthenes> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[10:33] <Demosthenes>   Major opcode:  144
[10:33] <Demosthenes>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:33] <Demosthenes>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:33] <Demosthenes> Failed to open device
[10:33] <eobanb> ugh
[10:33] <eobanb> !paste
[10:33] <Demosthenes> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[10:33] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[10:33] <Demosthenes>   Major opcode:  144
[10:33] <Demosthenes>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:33] <Demosthenes>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:33] <Demosthenes> Failed to open device
[10:33] <Demosthenes> opera: Activated running instance
[10:33] <Demosthenes> my fault
[10:33] <Demosthenes> trying to post code
[10:33] <Kismet> Is there anyone with LVM expirience?
[10:33] <eobanb> Demosthenes, do not do that again
[10:33] <gdb> He already apologized.
[10:33] <Demosthenes> really
[10:34] <eobanb> also, i don't recommend you use automatix.  it tends to break stuff
[10:34] <Demosthenes> ah
[10:34] <zcat[1] > !easyubuntu
[10:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:34] <doogxela> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06, but when I choose the option to install, it gets to "Mounting root file system" then, after about 45 seconds, goes to a screen that says [4294672.328000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0
[10:34] <croftyboy_31> where do i find the printer driver for a cannon i500 ?
[10:34] <zcat[1] > Easyubuntu is not recomended now too?!!
[10:34] <doogxela> and just sits there
[10:35] <Ekumba> thx
[10:35] <eobanb> zcat[1] , that's news to me too, although i do think all ubuntu users should at least bother to learn the basics of how apt works regardless
[10:35] <gdb> I can't recommed easyubuntu enough.  It's great stuff.
[10:35] <sven_> can someone help me with tls-1.5.0 compiling and installation?
[10:36] <munckfish> Got it! Graphical boot up provided by usplash
[10:36] <eobanb> and if it's too much work to just go to a web page and follow basic instructions on that page about how to install something through synaptic, well...
[10:36] <Demosthenes> So what would the output I posted earlier mean?
[10:36] <zcat[1] > same; I know how to do thuff by hand but it takes a while to get and set up each package...
[10:36] <zcat[1] > *stuff
[10:36] <eobanb> munckfish, not to rain on your parade, but you know that's standard in breezy and dapper, right? :P
[10:36] <n30n> ok so i dropped my keyboard while watching a firefox flash media video and the audio stopped. and even going back to that video and to differnet ones the audio won't play. both java audio will and regular system sounds play
[10:36] <akudewan> Ekumba: there is a script that you can use. Look here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Audio_CD#Quick_and_dirty_bash_script
[10:36] <Demosthenes> :P
[10:36] <munckfish> yes, I know, my problem was i couldn't remember the name of the package - having a bad words day
[10:36] <eobanb> you 'dropped your keyboard'?
[10:36] <zcat[1] > I'm working on Bug#1.. I'm always building systems for people...
[10:37] <liouncourt> hi
[10:37] <Demosthenes> well I'm going to try to figure it out
[10:37] <liouncourt> please can sombody tell me haw can i enable 3d acceleration on ubuntu?
[10:37] <liouncourt> i have a radeon 9550 video card
[10:37] <zcat[1] > liouncourt: what video card?
[10:37] <eobanb> !ati
[10:37] <n30n> !3d
[10:37] <liouncourt> exactly
[10:37] <eobanb> er,
[10:38] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:38] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, n30n
[10:38] <munckfish> eobanb: I found it once before by following deps thru Synaptic but today I couldn't remember how I found it, and googling for graphical boot wasn't turning it up either
[10:38] <sven_> the server where amsn gets the tls package doesn't have the file and I don't know if I can change the url in a file in amsn?
[10:38] <eobanb> there we go.
[10:38] <liouncourt> thanks
[10:38] <eobanb> munckfish, heh.
[10:38] <munckfish> eobanb: got this time by looking thru /var/log/messages.
[10:38] <zcat[1] > too many botsnacks.. I better stop feeding hum :)
[10:39] <KyoLptp`> how do you enable vsync?
[10:39] <zax1> could there be any hardware reason why a computer that takes 5.10 kubuntu, wouldnt take 6.06 xubuntu ?
[10:39] <akudewan> is there any way to run a media check on a dapper CD without actually booting into it ?
[10:40] <DanielC> Where can I get a list of keyboard layouts? I'm looking for British English.
[10:40] <zcat[1] > zax1: yeah, the kernel is different... my G3 won't boot dapper's kernels at all
[10:40] <dysmind> akudewan: md5sum the ISO
[10:40] <akudewan> I mean after the CD is burned
[10:40] <zax1> is there a compatibility chart anywhere to be found ?
[10:40] <zcat[1] > md5sum /dev/cdrom
[10:41] <akudewan> thanks
[10:41] <dysmind> I can't get my airport to work in dapper.  ahwell.
[10:41] <doogxela> I can't get my computer to take Dapper at all
[10:42] <zax1> zcat its a 700mhz celeron, with 128mb ram, should there be any problems with that ? also, i thought the main reason for xubuntu is to be able to run on older slower hardware.....
[10:42] <bbrazil> zax1: ou need 196mb for dapper, yeah try xubuntu
[10:42] <bbrazil> zax1: *you
[10:42] <zax1> XUBUNTU is what i am trying
[10:42] <doogxela> I have no idea what "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 3 of device" means
[10:42] <bbrazil> zax1: how about using the alternate cd?
[10:43] <zax1> its what i am using
[10:43] <CrashProne> Is there SOME WAY for me to make Ubuntu re-do my sound card configuration?
[10:43] <bbrazil> zax1: okay, that's worrying
[10:43] <zax1> :)
[10:43] <zax1> what happnes is that computer crashes mid installation, right after the "selecting and installing software" section
[10:43] <DanielC> CrashProne: What's the problem with your sound card?
[10:43] <bbrazil> whta sort of crash?
[10:44] <bbrazil> OOM killer?
[10:44] <zax1> tryed to bypass it by installing kubuntu server mode, and then follow the instruction to get the xfce desktop
[10:44] <zax1> but that doesnt work well either, every time the xserver start it crashes the computer
[10:44] <dooglus> zax1: the graphical installer needs more than 128Mb I think.  Use the alternate CD.
[10:44] <bbrazil> zax1: hmm. Possible hardware problem?
[10:45] <dysmind> zax1: if xubuntu doesn't work, try vectorlinux.  It's for low end stuff.  Like Pentums, PII's...
[10:45] <zax1> lowered the resolution and it will load but then i have 2 inches of black border around the desktop
[10:45] <akudewan> CrashProne: you could dpkg-reconfigure every sound related package. The hard part would be to find out those packages
[10:45] <zax1> googlus - i have
[10:45] <sven_> anyone that can help me with installing tls? or with the repository?
[10:45] <zax1> bbrazi - it takes kubuntu 5.10 no problem ( but very very slow running)
[10:45] <bbrazil> zax1: you can type that start of a name and press tab to autocomplete nickanmes
[10:46] <eobanb> zax1, why are you installing kubuntu on a machine with 128 MB of RAM :P
[10:46] <zax1> dysmind, i think xubuntu should work after all if kubuntu loads why not xubuntu
[10:46] <bbrazil> zax1: how big is your swap?
[10:46] <doogxela> Can I use the normal PC installer on an AMD64? Or do I have to use the 64-bit installer?
[10:46] <bbrazil> doogxela: yes
[10:46] <IB-> ofcourse you can
[10:46] <zax1> bbrazil - thanks for the tip(and my swap is very big and wide)
[10:46] <IB-> the 64bit doesnt have stuff like native flash, etc
[10:46] <zax1> bbrazil: 246mb (auto configured)
[10:46] <doogxela> that's what I thought, I'm just trying to figure out why it isn't working
[10:47] <dysmind> IB-: that's what 32-bit compatability is for
[10:47] <zax1> eobanb: to make sure that the hardware is working well - after the xubuntu failed
[10:47] <IB-> dysmind, but thats lame
[10:47] <bbrazil> zax1: can you give me more info about the crash? anything in kern.log?
[10:47] <dysmind> IB-: why?] 
[10:47] <IB-> cause i want pure 64 bit
[10:47] <dysmind> give me a good reason why it's lame :P as opposed to, say, pure64 bit with no flash being lame
[10:47] <eobanb> zax1, what do you mean by 'crashes'
[10:48] <IB-> cause i dont wanna install 32bit firefox
[10:48] <dysmind> so it's lame cause you have some weird ego idea about 'pure 64' bit
[10:48] <dysmind> :P
[10:48] <zax1> bbrazil: i am very green and wouldnt know much bout what goes on under the hood, can yu direct me on what to do?
[10:48] <bbrazil> zax1: sure - first how exactly does it crash?
[10:48] <eobanb> zax1, how exactly does xubuntu 'crash'
[10:48] <eobanb> heh, what bbrazil said
[10:49] <zax1> eobanb: after it loads for a sec the blackness of the screen slowly combs down, and then its complete black (alt ctrl backspace or alt +@ dont bring it back)
[10:49] <darx> namaste...
[10:49] <bbrazil> zax1: are you using ati or nividia drivers?
[10:49] <zax1> nither
[10:49] <eobanb> zax1, what graphics card do you have..
[10:49] <zax1> its a graphic controller integrated with the intel 82830m chipset
[10:50] <eobanb> zax1, when it goes to the black screen, can you hit ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to a virtual terminal?
[10:50] <bbrazil> zax1: okay, goto a terminal and "less /var/log/kern.log"
[10:50] <zax1> eobanb:  no
[10:50] <bbrazil> zax1: anything 'odd' around the time of the crash?
[10:50] <carbo> hi, how do I block access to a specific URL in ubuntu? like using the hosts file on win
[10:50] <mdke> so there are 4 instances of my user logged in, according to "uptime", but I only have logged into one Gnome session, how does that work?
[10:50] <darx> my laptop fan never care to turn off.. and i cant find any documentation on how to fix it.. could someone help me..
[10:50] <bbrazil> carbo: you could do that on ubuntu too
[10:50] <bbrazil> carbo: /etc/hosts
[10:50] <zax1> bbrazil: not really, the only odd thing is me trying to get it to work :|
[10:51] <carbo> bbrazil: i see, thanks
[10:51] <eobanb> mdke, do you have terminal windows open?
[10:51] <mdke> eobanb: one, from which I'm speaking to you
[10:51] <darx> i don't have a /proc/acpi/fan directory.. i'm royally confused..
[10:51] <zax1> is an HP pavilion N5412 laptop, just in case u need to figure whats exactly is under the hood
[10:51] <bbrazil> zax1: did eobanb's suggestion about crtl-alt-f1 work?
[10:51] <darx> is this directory depreciated in ubuntu??
[10:51] <bbrazil> zax1: laptop *shudder*
[10:52] <zax1> bbrazil: it did not, i cant do anything whilst it happens or after
[10:52] <zax1> bbrazil: shudder , why ?
[10:52] <eobanb> zax1, you specifically tried ctrl-alt-F1 ?
[10:52] <bbrazil> zax1: linux+laptops=fun
[10:52] <darx> where can i find proper documentation about dapper..
[10:52] <darx> ??????/
[10:52] <eobanb> zax1, i still get the feeling it's just a problem with xorg, not the whole system
[10:52] <bbrazil> darx: wiki.unbuntu.com
[10:52] <kagato> Hello there.
[10:53] <zax1> eobanb: yes, i was up till 1:30 last night trying to get help for this and its is one of the trouble shooting quesyions i got
[10:53] <kagato> Anyone available to help me? I've never had any luck with Ubuntu
[10:53] <eobanb> how about http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation , darx
[10:53] <zax1> BTW, what does it suppose to do
[10:53] <bbrazil> zax1: when booting in grub, add the 'single' option to linux
[10:53] <darx> bbrazil: been there..
[10:53] <darx> :(
[10:53] <eobanb> zax1, it should switch to a virtual terminal
[10:53] <ompaul> darx, your additional question marks  really vaildate your questions, you can also check out help.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <bbrazil> kagato: just ask your question
[10:53] <zax1> eobanb: it might be, but y does it not even finih the install ?
[10:53] <kagato> Cannot launch entry
[10:53] <kagato> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[10:53] <kagato> :(
[10:53] <zcat[1] > eobanb: unfortunately when xorg kills the keyboard, it doesn't make much difference if the kernel is still OK or not.. there's not much you can do with it :)
[10:54] <bbrazil> eobanb: I'm suspecting xorg too
[10:54] <Ng> ompaul: addict ;)
[10:54] <mdke> darx: you are describing what sounds like a bug, maybe Ubuntu doesn't support your laptop properly. Look for the model on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam and see if there is a solution posted there
[10:54] <zax1> ompaul: me too,
[10:54] <jenda-lappy> My HP 1100, which is listed as 'works perfectly' at linuxprinting.org, works, but VERY slowly. lp.org suggests this could be caused by ghostcript version lower than 5.5. How can I find out which version I use?
[10:54] <kagato> How do I get gksudo to work?
[10:54] <zax1> does the lapto spec have any useful hints ?
[10:54] <darx> mdke: that didn't cross my mind.. lets see where it goes..
[10:55] <darx> ompaul: sorry about that. too confused and frustrated...
[10:56] <zax1> guys, thanks for the attempts to work this for me
[10:56] <ompaul> darx, what laptop and what symptoms given I was not here, and I am going to boil a warm kettle I just have not gotten to putting coffee in cup yet
[10:56] <zax1> but i think i took the red pill and i found out how deep the rabbit hole goes.... i am back to my trusted win2k
[10:56] <ompaul> darx, the the joys of scroll back will be addressed ;-)
[10:56] <b14ck> with what program do i open *.rar in ubuntu
[10:56] <bbrazil> zax1: try it on a desktop, you should have better luck
[10:57] <bbrazil> b14ck: unrar
[10:57] <zax1> but i have kubunt on the desktop
[10:57] <selinium> b14ck: unzip
[10:57] <selinium> b14ck: unrar sorry
[10:57] <bbrazil> zax1: we'll forgive you then :)
[10:57] <b14ck> :D ty
[10:57] <zax1> zcat[1] : it was a text install
[10:57] <zax1> ;) windows is so great
[10:57] <bbrazil> zax1: what you want to do is check the xorg logs
[10:57] <kagato> Any ideas?
[10:58] <zax1> you cant beat window for stability security ease of use and just good old fashion charm
[10:58] <eobanb> ooookay, let's save the flamewars for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:58] <bbrazil> kagato: 'gksudo appname'
[10:59] <kagato> Cannot launch entry
[10:59] <kagato> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[10:59] <zax1> bbrazil: u see the thing is its way beyond my scpe - i need to get so much more technical before i can get there - and understand it, its just too much hassle to getthis laptop working, win2k this time ;)
[10:59] <jenda-lappy> How can I find out which version of ghostscript I'm using?
[10:59] <bbrazil> zax1: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:59] <kagato> Thats the thing, gksudo isn't located anywhere in /bin, /sbin or / period
[10:59] <zax1> bbrazil: what am i looking for ?
[11:00] <zax1> the usual suspects ? panic,fatal error,faliure in general ?
[11:00] <zcat[1] > some lappies just have too much closed hardware and aren't worth the hassle...
[11:00] <bbrazil> jenda-lappy: dpkg -l gs-common
[11:00] <bbrazil> zax1: usually an EE line
[11:00] <bbrazil> zax1: but in this case, also the last thing it does
[11:00] <jenda-lappy> bbrazil, thx
[11:00] <zax1> zcat[1] : the only issue i will take with that is that kubuntu 5.10 installed well on it
[11:00] <ompaul> darx, msg me the issue or something
[11:01] <leonassan> How do I Undo the ln -s command?
[11:01] <zax1> bbrazil: thanks , will be back with logs shortly
[11:01] <ompaul> Ng, sip protocol for coffee over lip of mug ;-)
[11:01] <zcat[1] > AHHH!!!! remove the irda packages! I think I know the problem :)
[11:01] <zax1> zcat[1] : thanks as well,
[11:01] <bbrazil> leonassan: rm filename
[11:01] <zax1> and to all who attempted - i salute u , bye
[11:01] <Ng> ompaul: tsk ;)
[11:02] <selinium> bbrazil: I have been looking at the PostScript thing. gs-common and gx-esp have different values, which one is the definitive one?
[11:02] <ompaul> leonassan, cd  to the offending directory where the linked files are and rm them - NOT the source ones ;-)
[11:02] <zcat[1] > irda is the early dapper kernels is a total show-stopepr on a lot of laptops.. it starts just after GDM, panics, and halts.. looks like a GDM problem but isn't.
[11:02] <leonassan> Ok, I'm running into a problem
[11:02] <bbrazil> selinium: do a ghostscript --version
[11:02] <selinium> leonassan: ouch! :)
[11:03] <ompaul> selinium, are you being ironic? ;-)
[11:03] <selinium> bbrazil: did that and got a nnot found. But gs-common installed and gs-esd ! :)
[11:03] <leonassan> I typed "ln -s /var/www/juuhachi/cgi-bin/ifatila /ifatila" and when I try to go to localhost/ifatila I get
[11:03] <leonassan> "You don't have permission to access /ifatila on this server"
[11:03] <selinium> ompaul: it is all the Guiness I drink, it is soooo irony.
[11:04] <zcat[1] > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/45542/+viewstatus
[11:04] <bbrazil> selinium: they dont use iron casks anymore
[11:04] <leonassan> also I have a red "ifatila" in / when I wanted it to end up in /var/www...
[11:04] <ompaul> leonassan, did you do that as root (the ln that is)
[11:04] <leonassan> no, I did it, did I need to sudo it?
[11:04] <ruxpin> how can I find out which services are on?
[11:04] <ompaul> leonassan, i.e. using uid 0's power sudo
[11:04] <leonassan> Gotcha, do ln while in sudo.. now how do I break all these bad links?
[11:04] <ompaul> leonassan, how did you create the ln first off
[11:05] <leonassan> I typed exactly this "ln -s /var/www/juuhachi/cgi-bin/ifatila /ifatila" oops "ln -s /var/www/juuhachi/cgi-bin/ifatila /var/www/ifatila" damn still not working umm *goes to chat* :)
[11:06] <kagato> Okay I figured out the gksudo thing, but Synaptic won't load when I type in my password.
[11:06] <zax1> zcat[1] : so would there be another cd or image i should download ?
[11:07] <jenda-lappy> How is it possible that my Travelmate 240 laptop doesn't detect the ethernet connection when I plug in the cable, and requires me to reactivate it? Is there a way to run a script that would reactivate the eth0 connection when the cable is plugged in?
[11:07] <leonassan> So I need to figure out how to A. remove the bad links, and B. rename a file (or find a way to tell apache that index.htm is an index file as well.)
[11:08] <leonassan> because ren and rename isn't working
[11:08] <zcat[1] > zax1: Not sure the easiest way to fix it. I booted up textmode and dissabled irda-utils .. the newer kernels are fixed so I could enable it again now but I don't have anything that uses IR anyhow :)
[11:08] <ompaul> leonassan, sudo rm -rf /var/www/ifatila
[11:08] <ompaul> leonassan, then start again
[11:08] <zcat[1] > jenda-lappy: 'sudo dhclient'
[11:08] <leonassan> Won't that nuke the whole directory?
[11:09] <zcat[1] > ompaul: to remove a link, jusr 'rm' will do....
[11:09] <zcat[1] > *just
[11:09] <ompaul> zcat[1] , yeap I seem to be misunderstanding the issue
[11:09] <zcat[1] > A bit safer if it accidentally turns out to be a directory as well :)
[11:10] <ompaul> leonassan, you have also put some materials directly in that /var/www/ifatila directory sorry
[11:10] <ompaul> leonassan, so you need to do ls -al and rm the guilty parties with sudo
[11:10] <leonassan> I nuked all the links using sudo
[11:10] <leonassan> What's ls -al do?
[11:11] <zcat[1] > shows all files, even hidden ones
[11:11] <ompaul> leonassan, tell you all the files and if they are linked it will tell you which ones are waht
[11:11] <ompaul> what
[11:11] <ompaul> leonassan, ls list -a hidden -l long description
[11:11] <leonassan> Ok, all the bogus links I made are gone
[11:12] <zcat[1] > *severe
[11:13] <ompaul> zcat[1] , is of course correct
[11:14] <fbn> hi, why are there so many package updates for Dapper at the moment?
[11:14] <pontifex> i note that linux-restricted-module-2.6.15-25 is missing from the latest update.. that's going to cause some issues isn't it?
[11:14] <pontifex> especially those running nvidia-glx for example (which was also updated)
[11:14] <IB-> works for me
[11:15] <zcat[1] > dist-upgrade should just ignore the new kernel until dependencies are met, right?
[11:15] <leonassan> Ok, now how do I rename things? :)
[11:15] <IB-> btw, each time my kernel is updated, ubuntu messed my "root" configuration in grub, where does he get the default from ?
[11:15] <zcat[1] > IB-: the "#" lines which look like comments are actually defaults that the package installer uses
[11:15] <pontifex> well a collegue here just came into work and said after todays mass update his machine no longer boots to x
[11:16] <ompaul> leonassan, the safest way is to "cp a b" "rm a" that way if the system was to die you whould not suffer (in theory)
[11:16] <pontifex> he uses nvidia-glx
[11:16] <IB-> zcat[1] , tnx
[11:16] <leonassan> Hmm, good idea
[11:16] <IB-> pontifex, i use it too with no problems (altough i use xgl)
[11:16] <pontifex> IB-: did you upgrade your kernel too?
[11:16] <zcat[1] > the ## lines are the comments :)
[11:16] <ompaul> pontifex, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with a reboot "cruel and violent" but fun
[11:16] <IB-> yes.. to 25
[11:17] <pontifex> IB-: that's why yours works then, and his doesn't
[11:17] <pontifex> maybe not actually
[11:17] <pontifex> does synaptic do upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[11:17] <IB-> i dont see how .. but k
[11:18] <zcat[1] > dist-upgrade I think.. it's smart
[11:18] <francois> Hi everyone...
[11:18] <francois> could someone help me... I can't boot on the live-cd nor on the alternate cd
[11:18] <francois> my system just stalls at boot
[11:18] <ompaul> francois, what kind of hardware?
[11:19] <francois> P4-HT
[11:19] <francois> with sata hd
[11:19] <ompaul> francois, video card and stuff
[11:19] <leonassan> Ok, to get this piece of website working, I need to find where the linux equivalent of perl.exe is, and /usr/bin/perl isn't it..
[11:20] <francois> the viedo card is a nvidia geforce 6200
[11:20] <IB-> leonassan, run which perl
[11:20] <IB-> francois, you tried the text installation?
[11:20] <francois> I tried to boot in debug mod
[11:21] <francois> IB, yes I tried
[11:21] <francois> no success at all
[11:21] <ompaul> leonassan, this is it- >>  /usr/bin/perl  <<- your use of it
[11:21] <IB-> what did debug mod say?
[11:21] <ompaul> francois, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions we normally expect someone to put all their data on one line to make it easy to follow, so nothing gets missed
[11:22] <francois> IB-, it hangss just after "ohci_hcd 0000:00:1c.0: OHCI Host Controller"
[11:22] <leonassan> ah, thanks.
[11:22] <leonassan> Now to try to edit a text file..
[11:22] <bert_> on my desktop I have an hda1 icon (win partition) how do I remove this without unmounting the partition?
[11:22] <IB-> francois, you can try disabling your USB in BIOS for installation
[11:22] <IB-> or try disabling ACPI at bootup with noacpi
[11:23] <leonassan> is there a GUI text editor in drake?
[11:23] <leonassan> And if so, where?
[11:23] <francois> IB-, i alredy tried some boot options : noacpi, noapic, nolapic, acpi=off, irqpoll and some others... no change
[11:23] <leonassan> Nm, foud it
[11:23] <leonassan> the fastest way for me to find something is to ask apparently :)
[11:23] <francois> it's weird since I had no problem at all with breezy live cd
[11:23] <ompaul> leonassan, there is a thing called gedit (you may need to gksudo)
[11:24] <IB-> francois, you got anything connected to your USB (front/back) ?
[11:24] <IB-> a usb drive or something?
[11:24] <francois> nothing at all
[11:24] <IB-> still i would try disabling in BIOS
[11:24] <IB-> the USB, if it's stuck ont hat line
[11:25] <liouba> bonjour
[11:25] <francois> liouba, bonjour et bienvenue ;)
[11:25] <ompaul> IB-,  leonassan, can you stick all your stuff on one line, rather than hitting enter after a few words put a couple of lines of text together helps a lot of people help you better and does not spam the channel
[11:25] <leonassan> alrighty ompaul :)
[11:26] <ompaul> kewl
[11:26] <liouba> je voudrais rejoindre irc.icq.net.  est ce que c'est possible?
[11:26] <francois> IB-, I'll try to disable usb in the bios and see if it boots...
[11:26] <francois> thanks
[11:26] <IB-> ok
[11:26] <IB-> who talked here about -25 ? it really dosnt have restrictive
[11:27] <daviscostel> hi all
[11:27] <ompaul> liouba,   /server irc.*.*           this is an english language channel
[11:27] <ompaul> !fr
[11:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:27] <harry> whats 'gcc' for
[11:28] <liouba> merci
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:24:53 2006 #                cConfig Base - Can't open file '/etc/verlihub/dbconfig' for reading.
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:24:53 2006 #                cMySQL - Connecting to mysql server: verlihub@localhost/verlihub
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:24:53 2006 #                cMySQL - Connection to mysql server failed: Access denied for user 'verlihub'@'localhos t' (using password: NO)
[11:28] <daviscostel> Allocated objects: 1
[11:28] <daviscostel> Caught error:Mysql connection error.
[11:28] <zcat[1] > !gcc
[11:28] <ubotu> hmm... gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:28] <daviscostel> root@davis-desktop:/home/davis# verlihub daviscostel
[11:28] <daviscostel> Config dir /etc/verlihub
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:25:25 2006 #                cConfigBase - Can't open fi
[11:28] <daviscostel> i have aproblem with Verlihub
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:24:53 2006 #                cConfig Base - Can't open file '/etc/verlihub/dbconfig' for reading.
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:24:53 2006 #                cMySQL - Connecting to mysql server: verlihub@localhost/verlihub
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:24:53 2006 #                cMySQL - Connection to mysql server failed: Access denied for user 'verlihub'@'localhos t' (using password: NO)
[11:28] <daviscostel> Allocated objects: 1
[11:28] <daviscostel> Caught error:Mysql connection error.
[11:28] <daviscostel> root@davis-desktop:/home/davis# verlihub daviscostel
[11:28] <daviscostel> Config dir /etc/verlihub
[11:28] <IB-> daviscostel, are you on drugs ? why dont you use PASTEBIN ?!?!!!?!?!?
[11:28] <daviscostel>  (1)                           Fri Jun 16 12:25:25 2006 #                cConfigBase - Can't open fi
[11:28] <zcat[1] > !paste
[11:28] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[11:29] <liouba> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:29] <ompaul> liouba,   >>>>  /join            >>    /
[11:30] <ompaul> harry did you catch what gcc was?
[11:31] <harry> ompaul: no
[11:31] <zcat[1] > !gcc
[11:31] <ubotu> [gcc]  the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:31] <harry> ompaul: i'm still up to with the turbogears thing
[11:31] <ompaul> harry, read ubotu there ;-) and thank zcat[1] 
[11:32] <liouba> i am alone in the channel...  could u write exactly what i have to type so that i can copy and paste?
[11:32] <Scorpmoon> when you do apt-get can you be sure the x64 bit version of the package is fetched if you are on x64 ?
[11:32] <harry> ompaul: i tried to install all python-dev. the 2.2 the 2.3 the 2.4 and now i have a new error messages
[11:33] <ompaul> liouba,   after the >>      >>/join #ubuntu-fr<< dacort, et  bon chance ;-) and I don't speak french
[11:33] <liouba> thanks
[11:33] <ompaul> harry, why all the pythons pick one of them
[11:33] <zcat[1] > Je n'comprehende pas le Francais!
[11:34] <jenda-lappy> Does anyone know what I could do with a HP LJ 1100 printer that prints way too slow under UBuntu (compared to XP)?
[11:34] <ompaul> jenda, same document?
[11:34] <ompaul> jenda, try some text from OO
[11:35] <harry> ompaul: i have no choice, my head is already messed up.. i already installed the python2.4-dev, but i cant still install turbogears
[11:35] <jenda-lappy> ompaul, any document from MS Word vs. OO.o 2
[11:36] <dibblego> I have a high-res monitor and graphics card yet I can only seem to set 1024x768 in Preferences - why come?
[11:36] <jenda-lappy> ompaul, what do you mean? opening a .txt file with OO?
[11:37] <ompaul> jenda-lappy, compare like with like, OO on both
[11:37] <m0gsi> Hello all
[11:37] <jenda-lappy> ompaul, how does that help? Tells us if OO.o is the culprit?
[11:37] <jenda-lappy> OK
[11:37] <m0gsi> Does anyone know how to use WPA that was included in todays update?
[11:38] <KrisWood> Hello. Has anyone here tried Cedega or Parallels with ubuntu? Any opinions on how they work with games or 3d apps?
[11:39] <KrisWood> wow, lots of people coming and going, not many talking :p
[11:39] <ompaul>  jenda-lappy it compares engine with engine
[11:39] <m0gsi> lol i'll talk if you want :P
[11:39] <KrisWood> :p
[11:40] <m0gsi> :)
[11:40] <m0gsi> Anyone done much with wifi on ubuntu?
[11:40] <chavo> KrisWood, cedega works pretty decently, I only really used it for HL2
[11:40] <Scorpmoon> Kris, does those allow you to play windows games?
[11:40] <dibblego> m0gsi, I use it a lot but I use a WEP key
[11:40] <KrisWood> Windows died again today and I've been using ubuntu for ages on my server pc so thinking about switching my gaming pc over heh
[11:40] <KrisWood> Scorpmoon: yeah supposedly
[11:41] <KrisWood> chavo: how did it run on there? Do you have to pay for it?
[11:41] <KrisWood> for cedega I mean
[11:41] <Scorpmoon> kris, is it free
[11:41] <jenda-lappy> ompaul, OK. I will. thx
[11:41] <IB-> where can one get cedga free?
[11:41] <m0gsi> Well i'm running keyless at the moment it's not a ubuntu problem with wep my sisters xp box hates it lol
[11:41] <chavo> KrisWood, you can get it for free, but the free version is lacking some things
[11:41] <KrisWood> Scorpmoon: I think so, I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking around. The website says it's $5 per month for subscription version
[11:42] <m0gsi> I would like to use WPA and also after maybe an hour the network stops working and then if i look at dmesg there are tx error messages
[11:42] <Scorpmoon> how are you supposed to play HL2 when it only runs on steam
[11:42] <chavo> IB-, you have to check it out of their cvs and build it yourself
[11:42] <m0gsi> It happens on w2k as well
[11:42] <dysmind> there is the paid ver, or you can build it from CVS
[11:42] <KrisWood> chavo: lacking? Like what?
[11:42] <jenda-lappy> Issue #2. I need to deactivate touchpad clicking. Is that possible?
[11:42] <dysmind> but Wine is generally fine lately too.  WoW works great.
[11:42] <chavo> KrisWood, not sure exactly never tried the free version
[11:42] <KrisWood> I'm mostly concerned with 3d studio max
[11:42] <chavo> yeah wine is getting good
[11:42] <KrisWood> and photoshop
[11:43] <chavo> you might want to look at crossover office for photoshop
[11:43] <dysmind> or gimp.
[11:43] <KrisWood> I've head good things about crossover office with PS
[11:43] <KrisWood> no gimp :p
[11:44] <chavo> I like the gimp, but I'm not a graphic artist. Just use it for basic stuff
[11:44] <KrisWood> I've been using photoshop for over a decade, I'm thoroughly entrenched in its interface, too late to teach this old dog new tricks
[11:44] <chavo> but then again I've never used photoshop and been using the gimp for years
[11:44] <dysmind> KrisWood: look up 'Gimpshop'
[11:44] <dysmind> gimp, made to look/feel liks PS.
[11:44] <KrisWood> heh
[11:45] <chavo> all it does is change the keyboard shortcuts
[11:45] <KrisWood> I'll give it a try but a lot of the plugins I use for exporting to games are photoshop only
[11:45] <BIAF> hi all : Does the server build of ubuntu provide gnome as well as command line?
[11:45] <dysmind> eh I use paint :)
[11:45] <chavo> so they are the same as photoshop, could be useful though
[11:45] <dysmind> BIAF: only if you apt-get install gnome
[11:45] <BIAF> ok thanks
[11:45] <jenda-lappy> Hmm... my laptop doesn't connect to eth0 when plugged. How can I make it do that? (ATM, I have to restart the connection)
[11:46] <dysmind> BIAF: though I'd apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <dysmind> if you want the GUI.
[11:46] <BIAF> yeah, i need alittle gui as well as some server related use
[11:46] <IB-> jenda-lappy, yo using DHCP ?
[11:46] <KrisWood> jenda-lappy: have you tried ifup eth0?
[11:46] <jenda-lappy> IB-, yep
[11:47] <KrisWood> or ifconfig eth0 for that matter to see if it's already set up
[11:47] <dysmind> BIAF: try xubuntu-desktop then. XFCE is lighter than gnome.
[11:47] <IB-> jenda-lappy, i think there is a bug, try running "dhclient" does it fix it ?
[11:47] <BIAF> dys : so better to install the server build and then get the guy via apt-get or install the desktop build and get the server software do you think?
[11:47] <dysmind> server then gui.
[11:47] <BIAF> guy=gui
[11:47] <BIAF> k
[11:48] <jenda-lappy> KrisWood, imagine this... I'm connected. I unplug. I replug. I'm not connected. I believe running dhclient fixes that, but I don't want to have to run a command manually (it should detect the connection)
[11:48] <BIAF> dys : xubuntu build also provide sudo methods?
[11:49] <kristina> where is apt-setup? i thought it was a part of base-config. ubuntu installer chose the repo mirrors based on my locale and not location. i don't like downloading packages halfway across the world. how do i install it?
[11:49] <zcat[1] > jenda-lappy: there was talk of a daemon that would detect the network being plugged in and configure it, but I'm not sure if it really exists yet...
[11:49] <jenda-lappy> hmm
[11:49] <zcat[1] > but someone is working on it I think.. perhaps edgy will have it :)
[11:49] <jenda-lappy> I'll just try dhclient now, so I might drop out...
[11:50] <KrisWood> jenda-lappy: sounds like a bug to me, I'd try searching on the ubuntu forums if I were you
[11:50] <KrisWood> I bet someone else has had the same issue
[11:50] <jenda-lappy> OK
[11:50] <zcat[1] > KrisWood: it's not a bug, just a feature that hasn't been added yet..
[11:50] <KrisWood> ah ok
[11:50] <Ng> jenda-lappy: have you tried using NetworkManager?
[11:50] <IB-> jenda, there is a bug if your UTC time in /etc/rcS is set to false, the dhcp doesnt load at bot up
[11:50] <KrisWood> so it's the opposite of a bug
[11:50] <KrisWood> hehe
[11:51] <jenda-lappy> hmm... now it worked.
[11:51] <zcat[1] > it's a lack-of-feature as far as I know...
[11:51] <jenda-lappy> I unplugged, and plugged in, and am back online.
[11:51] <KrisWood> (a bug being a feature that got added unintentionally, this being a feature that's intended but hasn't been added)
[11:51] <IB-> what is AMD64 channel for #ubuntu?
[11:52] <KrisWood> has anyone tried Parallels at all?
[11:52] <leonassan> !perl
[11:52] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, leonassan
[11:53] <Bassetts> does anyone know why vmware server doesnt work now i upgraded my image
[11:53] <zcat[1] > my laptop doesn't detect when the network is unplugged so it stays configured and just can't connect anywhere.. which consequently breaks any attempt to use dialup!
[11:54] <jenda-lappy> zcat[1] , ouch... that will make it near impossible for my dad to use UBuntu... I hope it ain't true..
[11:55] <opllpo> hi
[11:55] <thirdalbum> Hi all. I'd just like to ask about some trouble I'm having with the at command
[11:55] <gsrhgsrh> anybody for help for motherboard lga775
[11:55] <thirdalbum> I type: at now + 2 minutes
[11:55] <KrisWood> hmmmm I wonder if wacom has linux drivers, I'd better check that before switching...
[11:55] <thirdalbum> firefox
[11:55] <thirdalbum> cntl-d
[11:56] <thirdalbum> But when the time comes around, nothing happens
[11:56] <KrisWood> Anyone here use an intuos3 tablet with ubuntu?
[11:56] <zcat[1] > jenda-lappy: unfortunately yes, ubuntu doesn't yet handle networks being unplugged and restored as well as it could... :(
[11:56] <opllpo> how can i use the hwclock instead of ntpdate ? i have seen the script hwclockfirst.sh in /etc/init.d/ is that what i want ?
[11:56] <Bassetts> does anyone know why vmware server doesnt work now i updated my image, i really need my vm
[11:56] <dibblego> you probably need to reconfigure it
[11:57] <Bassetts> that dails
[11:57] <Bassetts> fails*
[11:57] <opllpo> because right now, if i have no network access my date is set to some date in 1904 and this causes all kinds of strange problems
[11:57] <zcat[1] > opllpo: sounds like youneed a new CMOS battery
[11:58] <opllpo> zcat[1] : how long do they usually last, my laptop is not that old
[11:58] <rixth> opllpo, years, atleast
[11:58] <rixth> I have a computer that is 8 years old and the cmos battery hasn't needed to be replaced.
[11:59] <goldragon> Salut !
[11:59] <ubuntu_newbie> hi
[11:59] <thirdalbum> The life of the CMOS battery should depend on how few power outages you get
[11:59] <opllpo> it's a powerbook g4 867 so it's not brand new but still cmos battery shouldn't be the problem
[11:59] <goldragon> Hum ... j'ai une petite question >>
[11:59] <rixth> !fr
[11:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:59] <zcat[1] > it should already be reading the hardware clock on a reboot.. and it should write the correct time back to it on shutdown too...
[12:00] <ubuntu_newbie> can anyone help me with an installation problem?
[12:00] <rixth> !tell ubuntu_newbie about anyone
[12:00] <Bassetts> how do i install the header files for my current image?
[12:00] <dibblego> Bassetts, build-essential iirc
[12:00] <goldragon> j'ai 2 HDD  4 partitions ubuntu repere les 4 mais ne me donne acces a 2
[12:00] <Bassetts> i have build-essential
[12:00] <Bassetts> and iirc
[12:00] <Ng> !fr
[12:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:00] <GillesM> hello what is the package to install to have make gcc etc ?
[12:01] <Ng> GillesM: build-essential
[12:01] <dibblego> GillesM, build-essential
[12:01] <goldragon> dont un 3me ou je n'ai pas acces mais c'est moi qui l'ais enlev
[12:01] <opllpo> goldragon: try ubuntu.fr
[12:02] <thirdalbum> Ignore my previous post, I just realised that "at" can't start GUI programs but works fine for CLI ones
[12:02] <ubuntu_newbie> My laptop will not boot from CDs - I've copied the ubuntu CD to a partition on my hard drive and I'm trying to boot using grub. It goes Ok until it tries to mount the partition with the CD image - anyideas?
[12:03] <KrisWood> ok one last question before I sign off for the night; is there an easy way to set up ubuntu to read and write to NTFS partitions?
[12:03] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[12:03] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[12:03] <zcat[1] > It can't write though..
[12:03] <KrisWood> damn
[12:04] <KrisWood> I don't have a way to back up my windows hard drives :-/
[12:04] <zcat[1] > back up yes, it can easily read them..
[12:04] <KrisWood> and don't have enough hard drive space to move them to another drive and reformat them
[12:04] <zcat[1] > restoring might be a bother :)
[12:04] <KrisWood> yeah, the problem is I won't be able to save on those drives
[12:04] <Bassetts> i cant get vmware working again after a image update
[12:04] <KrisWood> that's 140gb of unuseable hard drives heh
[12:05] <KrisWood> looks like I'll have to buy a new hard drive before switching
[12:05] <KrisWood> now to convince the wife that I need one hmmmm....
[12:05] <zcat[1] > There's a windows program that lets you read ext3 too, so you can 'pull' data in either direction..
[12:05] <FRbsd> greetings
[12:06] <thirdalbum> FRbsd: Hi
[12:06] <KrisWood> well, thanks for all the answers everyone, have a good night!
[12:06] <opllpo> Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. ()
[12:06] <opllpo> trying /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh start
[12:06] <FRbsd> i have a weird issue related to GDM, saw that before on beta but couldn't fix it
[12:06] <Frogzoo> !winext2
[12:06] <ubotu> somebody said winext2 was http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[12:07] <Frogzoo> zcat[1] : it's call winext2 ^
[12:07] <FRbsd> the latest upgrades seems to have confused GDM which now goes : could not log you in, starting failsafe xterm
[12:07] <zcat[1] > thanks Frogzoo!
[12:07] <FRbsd> rings a bell to anyone ?
[12:07] <zcat[1] > there was another one too, commander or captain or something, sounded like a person in charge of a ship anyhow...
[12:08] <IB-> FRbsd, if u fix it, tell me how :)
[12:08] <erikneudorfer> Hey there guys, i was hoping you could help me out with a little problem. My computer wont boot up when i enable my sata hard drive. Its the drive i keep all my music and movies on. I had to turn it off to install Dapper. Id appreciate any help you can give
[12:08] <FRbsd> IB-: so, got the same issue ?
[12:09] <zcat[1] > erikneudorfer: in BIOS settings tell it to make your SATA emulate an IDE will probably fix the problem...
[12:09] <IB-> i think, not sure
[12:09] <biberao> hi
[12:09] <IB-> when X runs it wants a passwd, altough i told it to auto login
[12:09] <IB-> and it asks for passwd in crappy X way, without GDM loaded yet
[12:09] <FRbsd> IB-: downgrading gdm and gnome-session don't cut it though
[12:09] <erikneudorfer> Excuse my ignorance but how do i tell it to emulate and IDE?
[12:09] <biberao> who here could teach me how to manage different ips provided by ISP?
[12:10] <zcat[1] > erikneudorfer: that depends on your BIOS. I know very little about SATA, but I've handled one machine with it and there was an option which fixed it..
[12:10] <ubuntu_newbie> Anyone have any experience of booting the LiveCD (copied to hard drive) using grub?
[12:10] <erikneudorfer> alright ill look into that. thanks for the help
[12:11] <linav> i try to play .avi files in totem-xine but it closes itself, dont know why
[12:11] <linav> and it happens all the time
[12:12] <apokryphos> linav: do you get any useful output if you run it from the terminal?
[12:12] <FRbsd> IB-: this ain't my issue. GDM boots up, i can log in, but it cannot start gnome no more, it goes failsafe and i have to manually type : gnome-session
[12:12] <IB-> ahh dunno
[12:14] <FRbsd> IB-: i filed a bug for it during the beta, but it never got acknowledged
[12:14] <IB-> ahh, you have the bug since then ?
[12:14] <Adross> is anyone else having issues with python on dapper?
[12:17] <Adross> that is to say, how can i get pypanel working?
[12:17] <jan__> hello people
[12:20] <jan__> i have a serious problem with ubuntu dapper: it happens every few days that suddenly I'm not able to open any application. all open applications work fine but i can't start new ones. they just don't show up. even the shutdown selection from the system menu doesnt show up. it happend right now so i can get more information if needed. any ideas?
[12:20] <harry> is there a website downloader for Linux system???
[12:22] <IB-> yes, "wget"
[12:22] <IB-> jan__, maybe you updated your system, or something ?
[12:22] <jan__> IB-: yes, from breezy. most of the time it works fine beside of this problem.
[12:23] <IB-> could be some configured borked
[12:23] <IB-> you can restart gnome with ctrl-alt-backspace btw
[12:23] <IB-> but dunno if that will do any good
[12:24] <cppnewbie> hey
[12:24] <PlHL> I used to use Rainlendar as desktop calendar in Windows. Is there a similar app in ubuntu?
[12:24] <harry> is there a website downloader for linux
[12:24] <jan__> IB-: ok, i will try later because this would quit me from irc.  any idea how to investigate into the problem? i have a open terminal and simple commands like tail, less, ps etc. works.
[12:24] <cppnewbie> i just launched ubuntu and i got the message that i can upgrade to dapper. how big is the upgrade to dapper and is it mostly worth it?
[12:24] <IB-> i really dont know
[12:25] <PlHL> cppnewbie: Its definitely worth it
[12:25] <cppnewbie> aha
[12:25] <jan__> IB-: ohh! now, after about 10 minutes the applications showed up. all of them includind the shutdown menu.
[12:25] <cppnewbie> then again, how big is it, cuz i got like a very slow connection
[12:25] <IB-> how do i make synaptic not ask for passwd every 5 min ?
[12:25] <IB-> jan__, : try running top, see if something is taking cpu or so
[12:25] <eMBee> good afternoon
[12:25] <PlHL> cppnewbie: You could also order (for free) the CD at Ubuntu Ship It
[12:26] <cppnewbie> nah id rather not
[12:26] <avilella> hi all
[12:26] <jan__> IB-: it's not that my computer is out of resources. it's a few month old and starting gaim shouldn't need 10 minutes.#
[12:26] <cppnewbie> still, where can i find out the size of the upgrade so i can know how long it will take?
[12:26] <PlHL> Think the upgrade is about 700 mb, but definitely worth it :)
[12:26] <cppnewbie> aha
[12:26] <cppnewbie> 700mb
[12:26] <IB-> jan__, : but maybe something is stuck or so ..
[12:26] <avilella> I recently updated the packages available at 15-16 Jun 2006
[12:26] <cppnewbie> sounds a lot for my connection to cope with atm
[12:26] <avilella> and now I'm having troubles with gdm
[12:27] <avilella> it won't recognize my password
[12:27] <avilella> although I tested the password in the terminal, with alt-ctrl-f1
[12:27] <avilella> and it works
[12:27] <jan__> IB-: i tried top before but cpu usage was very low.
[12:27] <bvanaerde> avilella: I'm having the same problem right now
[12:27] <cppnewbie> k mates, thanks 4 ze help, c ya another time
[12:27] <avilella> has anyone had problems with gdm or gdmsetup or something like that after the updates?
[12:28] <avilella> bvanaerde: I think it's something related to gdm, but I'm not sure
[12:28] <bvanaerde> yea maybe
[12:28] <bvanaerde> gtg now though
[12:28] <bvanaerde> sorry
[12:29] <avilella> has anyone else had problems with gdm or gnome-related login issues after the last update?
[12:30] <avilella> does anyone know where the "GDM configuration file" is, or what is its name?
[12:32] <jan__> IB-: ok, it's over for now. thank you.
[12:33] <IB-> k
[12:36] <graveson> where can i find out if ubuntu server supports itanium
[12:38] <lin> with todays update for 6.06 all menus are fucked up!
[12:38] <lin> everywhere "keyboard label"
[12:38] <lin> can anyone confirm that???
[12:39] <avilella> ok, apparently the updates where for gnome-2.14.2
[12:39] <avilella> the most recent update is for gnome-2.14.2
[12:39] <avilella> and this is disturbing some machines
[12:39] <avilella> including mine
[12:40] <lin> and mine too
[12:40] <avilella> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/2.14.2-0ubuntu1
[12:40] <avilella> apparently it was built 3 days ago
[12:40] <IB-> lots of ppl, not only yours :|
[12:41] <avilella> I encourage anyone to submit a bug report to launchpad about this
[12:41] <lin> i'll do so..
[12:42] <andi5> hi...i have two questions: does anyone experience kswapd0 go crazy too? it is unkillable then and i need to restart my computer... (one of 15 times it is another process that goes crazy) (uses 100% cpu) .... (2nd later)
[12:42] <dibblego> System-
[12:42] <dibblego> oops
[12:42] <kevor> Is there a fix for rhythmbox using 100% CPU usage?
[12:43] <kevor> *-usage
[12:43] <nickrud> avilella, is it already there? (and you want /etc/gdm.conf , or gksudo gdmsetup)
[12:43] <avilella> nickrud, if I try to run gdmsetup
[12:44] <nickrud> avilella, erm, etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:44] <avilella> I get an error: Could not access GDM configuration file.
[12:44] <avilella> nickrud: I do have this file
[12:44] <nickrud> whoa
[12:44] <Saraux> Excuse me
[12:44] <Saraux> Is this a place where you could get some help regarding Ubuntu?
[12:45] <andi5> kevor: out of curiosity... but you can stop/kill rhythmbox, right?
[12:45] <lin> Saraux: i think so
[12:45] <Subhuman_> Saraux, yes.
[12:45] <Subhuman_> ask away :)
[12:45] <Saraux> Well, I installed an applikation called Kismet from the Packet Manager (Adept), but I can't seem to find it anywhere :)
[12:45] <kevor> andi5: yes, it's just eating my CPU power, without crashing, it's a known bug, but wondered if there was an official ubuntu fix for it
[12:45] <nickrud> avilella, I did the update a few hours ago, gksudo gdmsetup is working here, luckily I think
[12:45] <Subhuman_> Saraux, itz a command line application
[12:46] <Saraux> Well I saw some screenshots, didn't like the console :)
[12:46] <Subhuman_> Saraux, open a terminal, and type "kismet"
[12:46] <Saraux> look like*
[12:46] <andi5> kevor: well, i have a process that eats my cpu and is _not_killable ;-( .... i cannot give you an answer, though
[12:46] <Saraux> okay
[12:46] <kevor> andi5: everythingi s killable
[12:46] <avilella> nickrud: I did the update, and then something gdm or gnome related is borked
[12:46] <kevor> andi5: what is the process called?
[12:46] <andi5> kevor: not kswapd0
[12:46] <Subhuman_> Saraux, it requires you to state your wireless device on the command line when you run it, but it gives you help to tell you what to do so it;s cool.
[12:46] <Saraux> Subhuman_:  I got this long error.
[12:46] <kevor> sudo killall -9 kswapd0 ?
[12:46] <Subhuman_> yeah read ^^ and then read the error.
[12:47] <andi5> no
[12:47] <kevor> :|
[12:47] <kevor> that's gay
[12:47] <avilella> I added a bug in launchpad about this gnome update problems: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/49973
[12:48] <Saraux> Apparently I should configure some packet sources :/
[12:48] <Paul_Anka> hi
[12:48] <Saraux> Have you guys ever runned Kismet?
[12:48] <Paul_Anka> yes Saraux
[12:48] <Subhuman_> Saraux, your wireless device is a packet source
[12:48] <Saraux> I tried kismet ra0 (my wirelessdevice)
[12:48] <Subhuman_> I havent used it in a while, but there is a flash
[12:48] <xubunturr> Saraux: yes, no prob on dapper with my ipw2200
[12:48] <Subhuman_> flag*
[12:49] <Paul_Anka> is there any way to boot the ubuntu installation from a floppy? or two floppys??
[12:49] <Subhuman_> like kismet -d ra0 or something.
[12:49] <andi5> ok, another question: as attempt to circumvent kswapd0 to go crazy, i tried 2.6.17 i have found in ubuntus pool.... but this kernel is configured not to have support for prism2 chips, why that and who decides that?
[12:49] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, you could boot from a floppy to load a CDROM, but not entirely from floppies.
[12:49] <xubunturr> Saraux: have you configured Kismet server file? I reckon it was needed
[12:49] <Paul_Anka> Saraux: I just edit /etc/kismet.conf for my wifi driver
[12:50] <Paul_Anka> Subhuman_: I have to install linux on 25 machines without cdrom
[12:50] <fluxy> Hello World. Can anyone please tell me how to prevent the icons of mounted devices from appearing on my desktop? Thanks
[12:50] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, are they networked?
[12:50] <Paul_Anka> I dont want to boot cdrom install
[12:50] <xubunturr> Paul_Anka: I recommend you USB booting
[12:50] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, you can do networked installs.
[12:50] <Paul_Anka> I want to boot a network install from floppies
[12:50] <nickrud> Paul_Anka, then you might like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation it collects all the install methods
[12:50] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, yes i think that is possible
[12:50] <opllpo> ok, i think i solved the problem
[12:51] <Saraux> Okay, I wanted to change my packet sourc ein Kismet.conf but I cant seem to save it :/
[12:51] <Paul_Anka> I?d like doing it using floppies
[12:51] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, you have to make one machine the server, then the clients can jus grab all the shit from the server box.
[12:51] <emanuelez> hello
[12:51] <opllpo> ln -s /dev/.static/dev/rtc /dev/rtc (+ date + clock -w)
[12:51] <Paul_Anka> so I can install 25 at the same time
[12:51] <xubunturr> Saraux: remember sudo vi
[12:51] <Paul_Anka> I havent got 25 usb
[12:51] <Paul_Anka> Subhuman_: I know that way
[12:51] <opllpo> is it a bug that this link is not set in dapper ?
[12:51] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[12:52] <xubunturr> Paul_Anka: have a look at this idea http://fightpc.blogspot.com/2006/06/usb-booting-and-more.html
[12:52] <Paul_Anka> but the best would be just using floppies
[12:52] <Subhuman_> thats how i would do it.
[12:52] <leonassan> Well, it's been fun, but I'll be throwing away my ubuntu CD's, reformatting, and reinstalling windows now. Bye!
[12:52] <manchine> has automatix been wiped out?
[12:52] <Saraux> Subhuman_:  you mean Sudo -i to login ?
[12:52] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka,  "Build an Etherboot boot floppy. " that method uses boot floppies to do a network install
[12:52] <manchine> Connecting to beerorkid.com|208.97.133.175|:80... connected.
[12:52] <manchine> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[12:52] <manchine> 12:42:08 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[12:52] <leonassan> call back when I don't have to go to a command prompt to edit a text file.
[12:52] <xubunturr> Paul_Anka: on USB would be enough and if it is 2.0 it will be even faster than network install
[12:53] <Paul_Anka> xubunturr: cant use usb
[12:53] <Paul_Anka> I havent got
[12:53] <Subhuman_> xubunturr, what if the machines do not have usb booting
[12:53] <emanuelez> i have an italian keyboard and it works great, but i would also be able to write danish letters like  and . those happen to already be mapped with altgr-o and altgr-a. so i only need one last letter. where is the file handlink keymappings so that i can modify it?
[12:53] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot read that, its EXACTLY what you require.
[12:53] <xubunturr> Subhuman_: you already know the answer, don't you?
[12:53] <Paul_Anka> and i?d like not have to use a server with dhcp+tftp server pxe for network boot
[12:53] <Subhuman_> xubunturr, yes 42 :P
[12:54] <Paul_Anka> Subhuman_: I can administer the dhcp on my network
[12:54] <Subhuman_> Paul_Anka, the server is just to install from, itz not a server/thing client
[12:54] <Paul_Anka> so I would have to configure one
[12:54] <WAPISIMAS> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:54] <xubunturr> Subhuman_: I was very happy when I explored this USB install thing (happy with the results)
[12:54] <Subhuman_> thin*
[12:54] <Paul_Anka> and disconect all my network  from the university network
[12:54] <fluxy> Can anyone please tell me how to prevent the icons of mounted devices from appearing on my desktop? Thanks
[12:54] <WAPISIMAS> KIEN AY
[12:54] <Paul_Anka> thats why Im trying to do it just using floppies, in order to dont change the network config
[12:54] <Subhuman_> xubunturr, usb isnt always possilbe on older hardware.
[12:55] <WAPISIMAS> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:55] <Saraux> Subhuman_:  but I have seen kismet having a GUI
[12:55] <Saraux> on screenshot
[12:55] <xubunturr> Subhuman_: I'm aware of that, but whenever possible I have found it very convenient (if your install can fit on a USB flash drive)
[12:55] <WAPISIMAS> CONTAROSGO
[12:55] <Subhuman_> Saraux, i've only ever used the cli version
[12:56] <xubunturr> got to go
[12:56] <WAPISIMAS> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:56] <andi5> fluxy: start gconf-editor (or install it) ... should (or can) be in apps->system->conf editor (or such)
[12:56] <wulax> fluxy: use gconf-editor
[12:56] <emanuelez> anybody can help me with that keymap issue?
[12:56] <Subhuman_> emanuelez, what is the problem?
[12:56] <WAPISIMAS> QUE MARRAMO
[12:56] <Subhuman_> your keymap is wrong?
[12:56] <Saraux> emaulez look in ur system settings
[12:56] <andi5> fluxy: apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[12:56] <WAPISIMAS> GOLEIS
[12:56] <emanuelez> Subhuman_: i have an italian keyboard and it works great, but i would also be able to write danish letters like  and . those happen to already be mapped with altgr-o and altgr-a. so i only need one last letter. where is the file handlink keymappings so that i can modify it?
[12:57] <cArNaGe``> How do I keep bluefish from opening when I click on a link?
[12:57] <fluxy> thanks andi&wulax i will try it
[12:57] <Saraux> emanuelez: look in system settings keyboard
[12:57] <shadukan> hello guys
[12:57] <shadukan> again a quick and dirty...to have the man pages for pthreads which package must i apt-get install?
[12:58] <Subhuman_> emanuelez, goto system/pref keyboard and then keymap, add the danish keyboard, and then you can swap layouts, only way i know how to do it.
[12:58] <shadukan> or for libraries such as sockets and other stuff
[12:58] <emanuelez> Saraux: i'm not using gnome. i'm an openbox user
[12:59] <WAPISIMAS> ALGUN ESPAOL
[12:59] <andi5> reask: as attempt to circumvent kswapd0 to go crazy, i tried 2.6.17 i have found in ubuntus pool.... but this kernel is configured not to have support for prism2 chips, why that and who decides that?
[12:59] <Pander> hi all, which gcc version to use to recompile a module for dapper drake kernel?
[12:59] <DarkMageZ> if i want to force umount my cdrom drive, it's sudo umount -f /media/cdrom0 right
[12:59] <ompaul> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:59] <nickrud> shadukan, install manpages-dev
[12:59] <tiagoboldt> linguistic bot
[12:59] <ompaul> WAPISIMAS, /join #ubuntu-es
[12:59] <tiagoboldt> sweet
[01:00] <avilella> does anybody know how to override gnome-related configs?
[01:00] <shadukan> thanks nickrud
[01:00] <andi5> DarkMageZ: i tend to use "eject", but i do not know whether it forces the umount :)
[01:00] <avilella> is it enough by renaming ~/.gnome* directories?
[01:00] <biberao> !pt
[01:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:00] <shadukan> adios amigos
[01:00] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[01:00] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:00] <ompaul> biberao, ^^ up a line
[01:00] <DarkMageZ> andi5, unfortunantly not
[01:00] <biberao> ompaul i was joking
[01:00] <biberao> :P
[01:00] <ompaul> !enter
[01:00] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:01] <andi5> DarkMageZ: did you close all nautilus windows and apps that have entered the directory?
[01:01] <DarkMageZ> andi5, i've got a wine application open, and it needs the next cd :P
[01:02] <DBO> ompaul, at BEST you only have half a sense of humor
[01:02] <ompaul> DBO,  well that is why I kinda joke ;-)
[01:02] <lukketto> my authomatic login does not work anymore, at the start ubuntu wants the password for the account I set as "automatic"...what clould it be?
[01:02] <andi5> DarkMageZ: i do not use wine, but cannot you instruct wine to mount, so that it can umount if some wine app wants it?
[01:03] <Paul_Anka> Im gonna try this
[01:03] <ompaul> lukketto, System Administration Login Window, and choose the security tab
[01:03] <Paul_Anka> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=80408&package_id=97496
[01:04] <lukketto> ompaul: I used it but it does not want to work anymore!
[01:05] <Saraux> DOEs anyone wanna go priv and help me with Kismet :) ?
[01:05] <DarkMageZ> andi5, turns out terminal also counts as using the drive
[01:06] <ompaul> lukketto, there are updates have you done them and restarted ?
[01:06] <lukketto> any solution?
[01:07] <andi5> DarkMageZ: yes, as said i do not use wine..... my idea is rather on the line: start "wine autoruncd" and let wine do everything (mount/umount)... no need to be in /media/cdrom0 then... i do not know whether this is possible
[01:07] <ompaul> lukketto, my previous communication is my suggestion
[01:08] <nickrud> lukketto, I hear they did that on purpose, there was a discussion here earlier
[01:08] <ompaul> well it seems to be available again
[01:08] <nickrud> don't see that one yet
[01:09] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> Hi, is there another tool for wiping the data from a disk entirely so no possible revoery can be done but also not to damage it because i have to return it to the reseller? I looked at the program "WIPE" but it seems to be sorta old(2002) Is there a newer one?
[01:09] <lukketto> ompaul: I used "your" method since breezy...from yesterday it stopped to work for me :(
[01:09] <ompaul> lukketto, and it works today for me since I did some updates
[01:10] <lukketto> nickrud: but it depends on the upgrades?
[01:10] <nickrud> lukketto, if there's new gdm, I'm not seeing it yet
[01:11] <lukketto> nickrud: so it is a bug, is it right?
[01:11] <frank_b> my mplayer plugin in mozilla just downloaded a video. is there a way I can save it. where did it downloaded to?
[01:11] <Saraux> WHen i try to install kismet it says it cant find libncurses and libcurses
[01:12] <dibblego> System->Preferences->Screen Resolution I only have a maximum of 1024x768 yet the display supports up to 1680x1050 - do I need to fiddle with xorg.conf?
[01:12] <XVampireX> Question about terminal: Is it possible to run a movie (using mplayer) in terminal?
[01:12] <nickrud> lukketto, I'm not seeing anything obviously related in the changelogs ...
[01:12] <XVampireX> And I mean the tty terminal
[01:13] <Saraux> DOEs anyone wanna go priv and help me with Kismet :) ?
[01:13] <ompaul> who was asking about automatic login
[01:13] <nickrud> ompaul, me for one
[01:14] <ompaul> nickrud, it does not work at this time
[01:14] <nickrud> heh
[01:14] <XVampireX> No one knows if it is possible to run a movie using the terminal?
[01:14] <dibblego> wtf? I have it working just fine
[01:14] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> Hi, is there another tool for wiping the data from a disk entirely so no possible revoery can be done but also not to damage it because i have to return it to the reseller? I looked at the program "WIPE" but it seems to be sorta old(2002) Is there a newer one?
[01:14] <nickrud> dibblego, does gdm show at the proper res?
[01:14] <lukketto> ompaul: it was me
[01:15] <dibblego> nickrud, what do you mean exactly? excuse the noobness
[01:15] <frank_b> my mplayer plugin in mozilla just downloaded a video. is there a way I can save it. where did it downloaded to?
[01:15] <ompaul> lukketto, well I tried it and timed and both wanted a password
[01:15] <Mewshi> so... anyone here live in pennsylvania?
[01:15] <scheuri> hi all
[01:15] <lukketto> ompaul: same problem for you? maybe the new kernel?
[01:15] <nickrud> dibblego, can you check your resolution and refesh rate using the monitor's menu?
[01:16] <hayden> whats the option to make an ext3 partition readable and writable by all users (in /etc/fstab)
[01:16] <dibblego> nickrud, no I can't - it is a notebook
[01:16] <ompaul> lukketto, no idea, I would report it against GDM, as don't know about kde
[01:17] <Mr-mOjOjOjO> anyone know?
[01:17] <nickrud> dibblego, does sudo ddcprobe show that resolution as being available (I hate lcds)
[01:17] <ompaul> lukketto, go to launchpad.net and report it come back with the bug name and I will confirm it for you
[01:17] <ompaul> s/name/number
[01:17] <lukketto> ok
[01:17] <ompaul> lukketto, and check it is not reported
[01:17] <dibblego> nickrud, it shows some higher resolutions
[01:18] <ompaul> if it is confirm it, and give me the bug number and I will do
[01:18] <nickrud> dibblego, something like 1680x1050@60, towards the bottom?
[01:18] <dibblego> nickrud, mode: 1600x1200x64k is the last "mode"
[01:19] <dibblego> dtiming: 1680x1050@59
[01:19] <bernier> how ca I know which drivers for my graphic card are running?
[01:20] <dibblego> nickrud, does that mean it's easy? :)
[01:20] <nickrud> dibblego, try adding "1680x1050/59" to the Modes line
[01:20] <dibblego> nickrud, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you mean?
[01:21] <nickrud> dibblego, yeah. near the bottom of the file, there's a subsection with depth 24, put it there
[01:21] <basti> Does anyone know where I can view the changelog for nex xorg-driver-fglrx ??
[01:21] <nemlah> Hello all
[01:21] <DBO> hi nemlah
[01:21] <nemlah> i am having trouble getting a minimal server install with ubuntu
[01:21] <ROBOd> hello
[01:21] <nickrud> dibblego, it's worked everytime that ddcprobe reported the native resolution of the lcd. Some don't for some reason, that's why I hate them.
[01:22] <DBO> nemlah, ok, can you be a little more specific please =)
[01:22] <ROBOd> where can i find a general overview about the latest dapper-upgrades?
[01:22] <hayden> does anyone know the option to make an ext3 partition readable and writable by all users (in /etc/fstab)?
[01:22] <ROBOd> it's not nice to take a look at the change logs for each package
[01:22] <nemlah> i have googled the issue and there seems to be a bug with partition recognition
[01:22] <dibblego> I have to restart X after doing that don't I
[01:22] <ROBOd> i'd like an overview, for the more important fixes and improvements
[01:22] <nemlah> Here is the problem: Installed and booted it goes to safedefault boot the reboots
[01:22] <DBO> hayden, you would normally do that by setting proper permissions
[01:23] <nickrud> dibblego, yeah, log out, hit ctl-alt-backspace
[01:23] <dibblego> nickrud, I will in a minute :)
[01:23] <nemlah> i have logged into the grub terminal
[01:23] <bernier> how ca I know which drivers for my graphic card are running?
[01:23] <lukketto> ompaul: are you in?
[01:23] <mwe> ROBOd: I don't know of such a thing.
[01:23] <nemlah> and run the commands one by one
[01:23] <nemlah> every command runs fine
[01:23] <ompaul> lukketto, I am here
[01:23] <lukketto> I submitted the bug
[01:24] <nemlah> but when i hit boot
[01:24] <nemlah> the machine reboots
[01:24] <lukketto> ompaul: could you confirm it?
[01:24] <ompaul> lukketto, got the number?
[01:24] <DBO> nemlah, no error nothing?
[01:24] <nemlah> nope
[01:24] <lukketto> yes
[01:24] <nemlah> just reboots
[01:24] <lukketto> ompaul: #49976
[01:24] <nemlah> root is /dev/hdb1/
[01:24] <lukketto> ompaul: did you copy it?
[01:24] <nemlah> i have read that on some machines you have to change from hda1 to hde1
[01:24] <nemlah> cause of some udev problem
[01:25] <nemlah> but i haven't changed the bus config after the install
[01:25] <DBO> hmmm, but then you would be getting a grub error 17 or 21 forget whcih one...
[01:25] <dibblego> Modes           "1680x1050@59" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:25] <DBO> nemlah, you got a live CD?
[01:25] <nickrud> dibblego, slash (/) not @
[01:26] <dibblego> oh
[01:26] <nemlah> i got the normal server install cd
[01:26] <nickrud> dibblego, don't know if @ works, know / does ;)
[01:26] <nemlah> i think it is a live cd too
[01:26] <hayden> DBO: proper permissions?
[01:26] <DBO> nemlah, see if you can boot the live cd
[01:26] <wildman> hello *
[01:26] <nemlah> it is a pretty minimal system
[01:26] <darx> greets
[01:26] <DBO> hayden, give the world read and write permissions (chmod 666)
[01:26] <nemlah> pentium mmx 133 mhz and 64 mb edo ram..:)
[01:26] <DBO> then any user can read or write to that drive hayden
[01:27] <lukketto> ompaul: did you confirm the bug?
[01:27] <mwe> but udev will change it at next boot. and mount perms will still supersede the perms of the device file
[01:27] <hayden> DBO, ok thanks
[01:28] <darx> i'd like some details about how acpi (specifically the cpu temperature control) works in ubuntu. could someone direct me to the relevant documentation.. my lappy has its own mind after the affair with dapper...=-O
[01:28] <frank_b> does anyone know where does the mplayer plugin for mozilla firefox saves its temporary files?
[01:28] <DBO> nemlah, i see... hmmm
[01:28] <nemlah> DBO i am not near the server yet.. you have any idea what might be the cause?
[01:28] <bernier> Is there away to know if my nvidia drivers works?
[01:29] <nemlah> hardware is pretty old
[01:29] <nemlah> no weird kit
[01:29] <mwe> bernier: glxinfo|grep direct
[01:29] <nemlah> i got a disable irc #11 during install
[01:29] <darx> frank_b: you could set mplayer to save it where ever you want.
[01:29] <DBO> nemlah, it sounds a lot like bad hardware to me... but there is also a good chance of this being something weird Im not familiar with
[01:29] <mwe> bernier: that will show if direct rendering works
[01:29] <darx> frank_b: the default i do not know
[01:30] <bernier> ive got like 7 times "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[01:30] <DBO> nemlah, with such old hardware you could be having resource conflicts too
[01:30] <nemlah> sigh
[01:30] <mwe> bernier: then it probably doesn't work
[01:30] <nemlah> i was hoping i could use that machine as a dev server
[01:30] <bernier> ok
[01:30] <bernier> i know ewhat's wrong
[01:30] <bernier> thnaks
[01:30] <nemlah> it is the only machine i have that doens't sound like a jet
[01:30] <bernier> thnanks*
[01:30] <bernier> thanks*
[01:30] <bernier> lol
[01:30] <frank_b> darx, it says on a configuration file that the directory is $HOME/tmp, but I can't find a tmp directory in my home directory...
[01:31] <DBO> nemlah, I would imagine, those old Pentiums dont even need heatsinks =P
[01:31] <nemlah> hehe yeah
[01:31] <nemlah> they get cozy warm.. thats all
[01:31] <darx> frank_b: is it hidden?
[01:32] <frank_b> no, I've checked that also...
[01:32] <frank_b> darx, no, I've checked that also...
[01:32] <darx> frank_b: beats me :'(
[01:33] <frank_b> darx, I have the video saved somewhere, but I can0t find it...
[01:33] <darx> frank_b: try changing the default location and see how it goes..
[01:34] <ROBOd> mwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter < that's nice :)
[01:34] <dibblego> nickrud, that doesn't change the possibilities presented by the Screen Resolution dialog - was it supposed to?
[01:35] <frank_b> darx, thanks, but what I want for now is to keep the video it downloaded... is there a way I can search for a specific file size in my file system?
[01:35] <nickrud> dibblego, not sure. I don't use that. Do you have the right res active?
[01:35] <dibblego> nickrud, how can I change the active resolution?
[01:36] <darx> frank_b: i'm not an expert, am just trying to be helpful.. sure try find its a bit complicated though. or just use the nautilus search.. man find will help
[01:36] <frank_b> darx, ok thanks. sorry to bother you
[01:37] <nickrud> dibblego, X should use the first res available on that Mode line; xdpyinfo | grep dimension will tell you the res you're running at
[01:37] <darx> frank_b: no probs. its my pleasure.
[01:37] <dibblego> 1024x768 pixels (333x212 millimeters)
[01:38] <frank_b> dark, bye
[01:38] <darx> see ya
[01:38] <nickrud> dibblego, like I said, I hate lcds. Could you post your xorg.conf, the output of sudo ddcprobe & /var/log/Xorg.0.log to nlpaste?
[01:38] <dibblego> ok
[01:38] <nickrud> dibblego, erm http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:40] <redmonkey> i've just installed the newest updates and now it shows a little window when it starts x that asks for password. how do i get rid of it?
[01:41] <nickrud> redmonkey, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/49976
[01:41] <dibblego> xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jF8EGM22.html  ddcprobe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/EizZWk88.html   Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/BMeEnQ70.html
[01:41] <dibblego> thanks
[01:42] <redmonkey> oh well, thanks nickrud
[01:42] <frank_b> darx, hi again. just to tell you, I think it was saved to the RAM memory. I closed the web page and noticed a 40 MB reduction in memory used. I think it only downloads to the disk if you have the download file option in activated in the configuration file.
[01:43] <sudomania4> my fans wont stop running
[01:43] <sudomania4> can someone help me get them to stop or slow down?
[01:44] <dibblego> my fans run after me too
[01:44] <sudomania4> i installed and configured lm-sensors
[01:44] <dibblego> I slow them down with a pellet gun
[01:44] <sudomania4> but now my fans are always running
[01:44] <sudomania4> and i get no temperature readout
[01:46] <cppnewbie> oi again, i happened to install a development version of something which doesnt look as good, is there a way to like uninstall it and install a stable one?
[01:47] <dibblego> Not using mode "1680x1050" (no mode of this name)
[01:47] <nickrud> dibblego, the log says that 1680x1050 doesn't exist, but ddcprobe says it does. I am not familiar at all with ati chips, but I'd suggest changing the driver from vesa to ati. If you have that set for a reason, I'm stumped.
[01:47] <dibblego> I just did a fresh dapper install on a new laptop - no idea what driver is being used
[01:49] <nickrud> dibblego, might as well try then. Worst that can happen is you log in to the virtual console you get if X fails, and change it back.
[01:50] <dibblego> I wouldn't know where to start; I'll read up, thanks for the help
[01:51] <soaz> does anyone else have problem with totem-xine (6.06 DD) ? i just installed a clean system. updated "stuff" with easyubuntu, installed totem-xine, and i won't start. i get an error "tthe application "totem" has quit unexpectedly". if i start it from a terminal, i get no error message there.
[01:51] <[Nige] > anyone having problems with the ATI drivers and "big Desktop?"
[01:52] <Infecto> any any
[01:52] <Infecto> try to look merged frame bufer configuration
[01:53] <Infecto> [Nige] : binary drivers fglrx ?
[01:53] <[Nige] > well I have tried with the binary drivers
[01:53] <cppnewbie> how can i uninstall a lib in ubuntu?
[01:53] <[Nige] > and I have tried with the ATi drivers
[01:53] <Infecto> on fglrx it dont work for me
[01:53] <[Nige] > I can get it fine until I log in, after that the 2nd monitor is unusable, I cant get mouse on to it
[01:53] <Infecto> with main 1400x1050 monitor and the secodn 1280x1024
[01:53] <Kibou> is there a chance that we will see xorg 7.1 in dapper?
[01:53] <Infecto> but on ati works fine
[01:54] <calisee> anyone know how I can get usplash or at least text at boot up?  Just upgraded to new kernel and while booting screen is blank until I get to login screen
[01:54] <Infecto> something is messed up with fglrx and big desktop
[01:54] <Infecto> but not only
[01:54] <Cin> cppnewbie, it's usually sudo apt-get install lib<something>
[01:54] <guard2> hi where can i specify daemons to be run at the startup of the machine?
[01:54] <Infecto> try ati and search for merged frame bufer
[01:54] <cppnewbie> Cin, uninstall >.>
[01:54] <[Nige] > fglrxinfo is okay :)
[01:54] <Cin> cppnewbie, remove?
[01:54] <Infecto> [Nige] : give me e-mail i can send you configuration
[01:54] <Cin> cppnewbie, sudo apt-get remove lib<something> ? :P
[01:55] <cppnewbie> dunno u tell me
[01:55] <stephie> hi. what does acpi=off and apm=off do? when shall i turn off these features?
[01:55] <cppnewbie> xD
[01:55] <[Nige] > I can get big desktop to work, as long as I use vesa drivers
[01:55] <Cin> cppnewbie, I just did. :O
[01:55] <Infecto> you install ati drivers yes ?
[01:55] <cppnewbie> o so that wasnt a joke? ohwel
[01:55] <aesxa> Hi. Can I get kuickshow in Dapper?
[01:56] <[Nige] > Infecto, yer i have installed ati drivers
[01:57] <XVampireX> Hey, I'm having problems with getting themes to work, I just installed rezlooks (through the ubuntu deb file) and I went to the theme preferences, but it's not there...
[01:58] <burgermann> Hi, I just bought a Linksys WUSB54GC USB wlan adapter, but when I plug it in, nothing seem to happen.
[01:58] <cppnewbie> not to mention, ive got rhythmbox on breezy open and i got no bass playing, happens often?
[01:58] <burgermann> ... checking the device info tool in gnome, nothing turns up by the usb controllers (as with the usb mouse)
[01:59] <pequatre> hey guys. i'm setting up Drupal, the CMS, on a Dapper Server, and when registring a new user it asks me for an email adress.Now, i know some daemons send you messages through email (@localhost on something) but i don't know how to check if it's enabled, and what would be my email adress on the server ?
[01:59] <kbrooks> see you later
[02:00] <Pupeno> Hello.
[02:00] <calisee> anyone know how I can get usplash or at least text at boot up?  Just upgraded to new kernel and while booting screen is blank until I get to login screen
[02:00] <Pupeno> What packages make a basic Kubuntu installation ? I have kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-standard, yet synaptic wants to remove basic packages such as adduser because they are not needed ?
[02:00] <fiveiron> any way to pass a directory to glslideshow with gnome-screensaver?
[02:01] <wapgeek> help please how 2 configure eth1 for internal network. eth0 is already configured with public ip
[02:01] <stephie> Pupeno, simply install kubuntu-desktop and it will work.
[02:01] <calisee> wapgeek: type "iwconfig" what does it say about eth1
[02:01] <fiveiron> wapgeek, ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x/24
[02:01] <stephie> you may reinstall ubuntu-desktop after having installed kubuntu-desktop to have kde only as an additional window manager.
[02:02] <Pupeno> stephie: it doesn't. Kubuntu-desktop is installed, it still wants to get rid of many, many packages, such as "adduser".
[02:02] <wapgeek> iwconfig it says no wireless extensions
[02:02] <Pupeno> stephie: do you know how the automatic-uninstall feature of aptitude works ? otherwise you can't understand what I am saying.
[02:02] <calisee> wapgeek: is your eth1 wireless or no
[02:02] <wapgeek> no
[02:02] <fiveiron> then use ifconfig
[02:02] <calisee> yeah
[02:03] <wapgeek> ok fine
[02:03] <Pupeno> oh, somehow, ubuntu-standard got uninstalled.
[02:03] <stephie> Pupeno, it worked with me. i simply installed kubuntu-desktop and allowed him to delete everything he wanted. afterwards i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and everything went fine
[02:04] <ulisse> lo people
[02:05] <calisee> anyone know how I can get usplash or at least text at boot up?  Just upgraded to new kernel and while booting screen is blank until I get to login screen
[02:06] <ulisse> calisee: in grub menu, hit "e", select your kernel line and hit "e" another time
[02:06] <Pupeno> stephie: I am not switching from ubuntu to kubuntu, I am upgrading from breezy to dapper.
[02:06] <ulisse> calisee: then remove "quiet splash" from the boot row
[02:06] <ulisse> calisee: and hit "b" to boot, you should get a verbose boot
[02:07] <calisee> ulisse: i'm going to change this via editing grub.lst
[02:07] <calisee> ulisse: I see the quiet splash part though, so I will remove that
[02:07] <stephie> ah sorry Pupeno i misunderstood. but why don't you dist-upgrade your system?
[02:07] <ulisse> calisee: yes, basically it's the same ;)
[02:07] <calisee> ulisse: there is also an 'ro' on the line, leave that?
[02:07] <Pupeno> stephie: that's what I did.
[02:08] <stephie> ah
[02:08] <Pupeno> stephie: after solving a couple of conflicts I wanted to clean up with aptitude.
[02:08] <ulisse> yeah, calisee, I'd leave it
[02:08] <calisee> ulisse: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-ck12 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[02:08] <calisee> ok thanks
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> how would i get xmms on the "open with" right click menu of a wma file
[02:08] <Tommy2k4> and other audio files
[02:09] <hayden> is there a graphical fstab editor available?
[02:09] <akudewan> Hi, I want to remove gnome to free up some disk space, now the package "Gnome" isn't installed and neither is "ubuntu-desktop" :-S
[02:09] <[Nige] > bbs
[02:10] <Pupeno> akudewan: there's no "gnome" package I believe.
[02:10] <calisee> ulisse: thanks, worked :)
[02:10] <ulisse> hey people, it seems I have an hard problem, something gone bad with the last kernel update and cannot configure restricted modules
[02:10] <ulisse> calisee: you're welcome ;)
[02:11] <calisee> you went to -20?
[02:11] <Pupeno> akudewan: I use aptitude to ensure that I have nothing that I don't need.
[02:11] <akudewan> Pupeno: how do u do that ?
[02:12] <ulisse> It seems that there is a "tiacx100r15" that cannot be removed
[02:12] <Pupeno> aptitude, aside of installing what you needs, it uninstalls what you don't need.
[02:12] <stephie> hayden, terminal: gksu disks-admin
[02:12] <iiiears> Does anyone have a link for XEN and LVM2 on Ubuntu?
[02:12] <Pupeno> akudewan: unfortunatelly, it's not easy. There's a manual somewhere, hold on.
[02:13] <hayden> thanks steph
[02:13] <stephie> np
[02:13] <nickrud> Pupeno, make sure you have ubuntu-base, ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard marked as not automatic. I did the same (cleanup with aptitude) and iirc that's all I needed to mark.
[02:13] <iiiears> Good Morning Hobbsee. :)
[02:13] <Hobbsee> hey iiiears
[02:14] <calisee> anyone know of a few ways to get boot time to be quicker?  maybe some useless services for a laptop that start up?
[02:14] <stephie> hayden : you also find that one under system -> system preferences -> harddiskmanager (or similar. dont know exactly because i do not use the english ubuntu version ;))
[02:14] <peegh> Hello,
[02:14] <stephie> at least with dapper
[02:14] <Pupeno> nickrud: thanks.
[02:14] <Hobbsee> calisee: see the howto at ubuntuforums.org for that - how to speed up your system where you can really feel it or something
[02:14] <iiiears> Trying XEN this morning. LVM is giving me a headache. - Have a walkthrough?
[02:14] <peegh> Can someone please help me configuring PPPOE ? i'm having some problems.
[02:14] <ulisse> what does it mean if a file has "b--sr-S-w-" permissions?
[02:15] <stephie> peegh, did you walk throug pppoeconf?
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> !wma
[02:15] <peegh> stephie , yes I did.
[02:15] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[02:15] <peegh> i also download rp-pppoe
[02:15] <the--dud> anyone happen to know why this happens? http://pastebin.ca/66150
[02:15] <peegh> downloaded *
[02:15] <peegh> and compiled it.
[02:15] <Pupeno> akudewan: http://people.debian.org/~dburrows/aptitude-doc/en/   http://web.pdx.edu/~hegbloom/Aptitude/tutorial-intro-aptitude.html
[02:15] <peegh> i'm getting a "timed out" error when using it (rp-pppoe, latest version)
[02:16] <amarokker> Can someone explain how I should configure my network devices? i have an onboard lan card which is not active, and another device created by the eagle-usb adsl modem
[02:16] <akudewan> Pupeno: cool thanks :)
[02:16] <the--dud> tried dpkg-reconfigure all sorts of things, but nothing changes it
[02:16] <Cin> Hm, I never seem to have any build dependancies for anything in Dapper.
[02:16] <the--dud> i suppose it b0rked after I upgraded to dapper
[02:16] <nickrud> Cin, usually apt-get build-dep <app> gets you the needed dependencies
[02:17] <Cin> nickrud, yeah that's what I do, but it always says "build dependancies for <app> could not be satisfied."
[02:17] <the--dud> anyone taken alook at what I posted...?
[02:17] <dixie> has somebody vmplayer working on latest release of ubuntu ?
[02:17] <Cin> nickrud, sometimes adding Breezy sources works... ish... but it's iffy.
[02:17] <Myweb-> hello
[02:18] <peegh> Excuse me, can anyone help configuring PPPOE ? (i have tried pppoeconf, etc.)
[02:18] <iiiears> amarokker: lspci will give you information about your card from there a quick apt get should install the correct driver.  Is it Wireless? If it is have you seen the link to the WiFi howTo?
[02:18] <Myweb-> I try to install xubuntu on ibook, but I get error install(sys.argv[1] ), wizard = ui.Wizard(distro)
[02:18] <amit> what shud i do to play songs online?
[02:18] <nickrud> Cin, that sucks. I build almost nothing myself anymore ;)
[02:18] <Myweb-> and other...
[02:18] <Myweb-> please help me to install xubuntu
[02:18] <Cin> nickrud, hehe. They builded fine on Breezy (things like amaroK, OpenOffice, etc.), hmm. :)
[02:19] <iiiears> nickrud - Is it just me or does almost nothing from a CVS compile cleanly?
[02:19] <the--dud> pasted it here as well now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15805
[02:19] <amit> what shud i do to play songs online?
[02:19] <nickrud> Cin, I did a quick build-dep for amarok and it wants 143 packages here
[02:19] <iiiears> lol
[02:20] <nickrud> of course, I bailed :)
[02:20] <chris_> my sound isnt working ?
[02:20] <snoops> well kde libs are pretty big nickrud
[02:20] <nickrud> iiiears, it usually does, it's just not fun
[02:20] <nickrud> snoops, very true
[02:20] <chris_> gud morning nickrud :)
[02:20] <Pupeno> nickrud: if you don't have kubuntu-dekstop it is likely to be big (like build-deps for banshe without ubuntu-desktop). Am I mistaken ?
[02:21] <nickrud> hi chris_
[02:21] <chris_> mhello, sound isnt working ?
[02:21] <nickrud> Pupeno, but of course.
[02:21] <chris_> what do i do?
[02:21] <chris_> on a dell precision workstation m50
[02:22] <Cin> My name is Chris. :D
[02:22] <nickrud> sygma, all I've ever used is pppoeconf. For me, it was pretty transparent.
[02:22] <chris_> trying the updates now maybe it'll work
[02:22] <chris_> Cin im Chris too ;)
[02:22] <chris_> help me out buddy :)
[02:23] <Cin> chris_, people on Kubuntu seem to have sound problems when they first install it... you on Kubuntu?
[02:23] <chris_> nope not on kubuntu
[02:23] <Pupeno> yeah, blame Kubuntu (joking).
[02:23] <cppnewbie> ROFL
[02:23] <Cin> Pupeno, hehehe.
[02:23] <sygma> nickrud, i'm getting " chap auth failed "
[02:23] <sygma> and i'm sure my user/pass are right
[02:24] <chris_> why would you install kubuntu, when ubuntu is the best! love the gnome feel
[02:24] <Cin> Hehe.
[02:24] <nickrud> sygma, try pap (it's been a while, I think that's an option)
[02:24] <Cin> I'm on Xubuntu, uberfast. :D
[02:24] <logan77666>  got a queation - on Dapper Drake I have raise_on_click option in gconf for metacity disabled but it still raises my windows - can anyone confirm ?
[02:24] <sygma> nickrud , how di configure pap ?
[02:24] <chris_> DBO told me not to install xubuntu :P
[02:25] <chris_> DBO is going get a smack
[02:25] <chris_> lol
[02:25] <Cin> chris_, who or what is DBO?
[02:25] <wapgeek> i did ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.2/24 but when i reboot it only shows eth0 with public ip.
[02:25] <chris_> DBO is a IRC user helped me out a lot
[02:25] <Cin> Oh, someone in here. :] 
[02:25] <chris_> yes :] 
[02:25] <Pupeno> logan77666: maybe it requires restarting metacity ? (wild guess)
[02:25] <Jestre> Anyone have any easy directions for running apt-get over an ssh tunnel or squid?
[02:25] <wapgeek> can i do it directly by editing file
[02:26] <chris_> well trying to fiqure this sound problem .... :|
[02:26] <Cin> chris_, what have you tried so far?
[02:26] <chris_> using amrok
[02:26] <chris_> :|
[02:26] <sygma> nickrud , how do I configure PAP ?
[02:26] <Cin> Ahhh.
[02:26] <chris_> on a dell precision m50
[02:26] <nickrud> sygma, I really don't remember, it's been a couple of years. I have dsl pppoe modems that I can configure directly with the web browser and then use the modem's dhcp to use ethernet to connect to the modem
[02:26] <chris_> laptop *
[02:26] <Cin> chris_, does sound work elsewhere? Like on the login when it does those drums?
[02:26] <chris_> yah
[02:26] <Cin> Ahhh reet.
[02:26] <chris_> amarok problem maybe ?
[02:27] <kevin> ok, one question....I want to remove all but my windows and the latest Dapper kernel from Grub, what do I do to do so?
[02:27] <Cin> Sounds like you need gstreamer, or xine.
[02:27] <DBO> chris_, i told you to install GNOME, I did NOT tell you not to install xubuntu, you can have both if you like
[02:27] <Cin> chris_, yeah.
[02:27] <sygma> nickrud, ok - thanks anyway ^^
[02:27] <Cin> DBO, hehe.
[02:27] <chris_> im introuble!
[02:27] <DBO> chris_, ok, whats wrong?
[02:27] <IEATPOOPIE> would anyone be interested in contributing to my filthy habit?
[02:27] <chris_> DBO welcome back samba problems since i did the update :P
[02:27] <wapgeek> in which file eth1 configuration is saved?
[02:27] <chris_> can see my linux
[02:27] <chris_> OS on windows
[02:27] <DBO> chris_, ok, whats gone wonky?
[02:27] <chris_> well i am leaving shortly :|
[02:28] <chris_> number of problems hehe
[02:28] <Hobbsee> sygma: tried man pppoe
[02:28] <Cin> chris_, I had this problem. Search 'gstreamer' on Synaptic and install amarok-gstreamer.
[02:28] <IEATPOOPIE> would anyone be interested in contributing to my filthy habit?
[02:28] <ulisse> how can I remove this file?     b--sr-S-w- 1 25441 29545 0, 0 2027-08-15 23:15 tiacx100r15
[02:28] <chris_> great thanks Cin
[02:28] <Toge> hello
[02:28] <DBO> chris_, thats ok, im here a lot, just say my name when you decide to come back and it will alert me
[02:28] <chris_> awesome DBO ur the best ;)
[02:28] <wapgeek> :(
[02:28] <apple_> ?
[02:28] <Toge> does ext3 allow files greather than 4GB?
[02:28] <t-thing> Hi. Why do I sometimes have kacpid-work-[1..9]  processes running with the -1 and -2 eating all my resources off my nx6110?
[02:29] <mnk> hi all
[02:29] <chris_> ha
[02:29] <Cin> chris_, Tea? But of course.
[02:29] <tobberoth> I downloaded kubuntu-desktop to my Ubuntu and got it working, but I get the following error: There's no sound. No KDE start up sound, no sound when I get messages in kopete.. nothing. The only sound I get is AmaroK playing mp3s. How do I fix this?
[02:29] <Cin> Ah! See.
[02:29] <Cin> I told you Kubuntu had sound problems.
[02:29] <Cin> It's KDE's sound thingies.
[02:29] <chris_> im not on kubuntu!
[02:29] <DBO> Toge, you can have files up to 1TB in size
[02:29] <Cin> Overlaps all other sound.
[02:29] <b_> hi
[02:29] <Cin> chris_, I'm talking about tobberoth.
[02:29] <Cin> :P
[02:29] <Toge> DBO, sure?
[02:30] <DBO> Toge, yes
[02:30] <tobberoth> Cin: That's odd :( Any way to fix it?
[02:30] <t-thing> 
[02:30] <chris_> lol tobberoth shud use ubuntu ;)
[02:30] <mnk> i am trying to sync my xda 2i [pocket pc]  with evolution using multisync / synce but no luck! i can't even sync evolution with backup; it just says waiting for change and when i do make a change in evo, nothing happens in the backup directory
[02:30] <wapgeek> eth1 configuration help please really confused.
[02:30] <Plug> is there a FAQ for why dapper wants to update all of GNOME today?
[02:30] <[zero] > Hi I tried to install opera and it comes up wioth "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlib6g|xlibs" I checked the synaptic package manager but they arnt there, what can I do?
[02:30] <chris_> hey tobberoth join #kubuntu ;)
[02:30] <tobberoth> I am in #kubuntu, they aren't helping me.
[02:30] <b_> does anyone know the default gnome prefix in dapper? i havent the slightest idea
[02:30] <Cin> tobberoth, I don't quite remember where the setting is, but if you search around, and find something like the default KDE sounds, like you have in Windows, and turn it off. That should solve your problems. It's blocking other sound, you see...
[02:31] <Cin> tobberoth, try #kubuntu?
[02:31] <Cin> tobberoth, oh, hehe.
[02:31] <truz_`24> lots of updates (53)
[02:31] <Plug> truz_`24: indeed
[02:31] <wapgeek> dont even have desktop so that i can do it with some tool. lol
[02:31] <tobberoth> Hmm, I'll look for that setting then
[02:31] <ulisse> nobody knows how to remove a file like this?     b--sr-S-w- 1 25441 29545 0, 0 2027-08-15 23:15 tiacx100r15
[02:31] <Cin> tobberoth, I had the same issue when I first installed Kubuntu, it's there somewhere in the settings...
[02:32] <DBO> ulisse, sudo rm doesnt work?
[02:32] <Frrderick> iThe answer is 42! just try it out!
[02:32] <Cin> (Yeah I had a lot of issues with sound)
[02:32] <mnk> can anyone help?
[02:32] <Frrderick> iThe answer is 42! just try it out!
[02:32] <b_> does anyone know the default gnome prefix in dapper? i havent the slightest idea
[02:32] <ulisse> DBO: no, it says: rm: impossibile rimuovere `tiacx100r15': Funzione non permessa
[02:32] <chris_> cin so many gstreamer's!
[02:32] <Plug> b_ don't repeat yourself
[02:33] <Plug> what do you mean by 'gnome prefix' ?
[02:33] <chris_> lol what package?
[02:33] <chris_> all?
[02:33] <Snowfairy> ulisse, sudo rm ./b--s   etc.
[02:33] <ulisse> DBO: i think i should change that strange permissions but I dunno how and what they mean...
[02:33] <b_> the install path
[02:33] <Cin> Toge, if you want confirmation, it's always good to search for the filesystem in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 -- says max. file size is 2TB. :D
[02:33] <Snowfairy> oh wait, I mixread.
[02:33] <Snowfairy> lol... but just prefix the filename with ./
[02:33] <DBO> ulisse, do sudo chmod 644 /path/to/file
[02:33] <Cin> chris_, you want amarok-gstreamer.
[02:33] <wapgeek> eth help
[02:33] <b_> im sry im trying to compile something that needs to be in the gnome prefix
[02:33] <Cin> chris_, is it there?
[02:33] <Toge> what is better? ntfs o ext3?
[02:33] <Frrderick> iThe answer is 42! just try it out!
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> how do i make xmms play wma? amarok plays it fine but not xmms
[02:34] <ulisse> DBO: nothing, function not permitted
[02:34] <MikkelRev> After I tried to fix my wireless network and rebooted the computer, it freezes when it at boottime tries to configure network. How can I disable networking at boottime, or in grub?
[02:34] <DBO> ulisse, where is this file?
[02:34] <ulisse> DBO: I tried to boot with live-cd, but no way to delete too
[02:34] <chris_> have to restart tho ill be back on later on tonight :)
[02:34] <Plug> b_: not sure sorry.
[02:34] <Snowfairy> MikkelRev, /etc/networking/interfaces
[02:34] <chris_> DBO have a great day cin you too
[02:34] <chris_> thanks for all the help :)
[02:34] <Cin> chris_, good day to you.
[02:34] <Snowfairy> dur... just /etc/network
[02:34] <Snowfairy> sorry :)
[02:34] <mnk> anyone?
[02:35] <ulisse> DBO: /lib/firmware/2.6.15-25-686/acx/default/tiacx100r15
[02:35] <mnk> i am trying to sync my xda 2i [pocket pc]  with evolution using multisync / synce but no luck! i can't even sync evolution with backup; it just says waiting for change and when i do make a change in evo, nothing happens in the backup directory
[02:35] <b_> hmm ok ill try to guess then
[02:35] <Cin> D'oh. Accidently made this channel into a new window with X-Chat. How do I put it back in the main window?
[02:35] <chris_> :)
[02:35] <chris_> byebye
[02:35] <DBO> ulisse, why are you looking to remove that again?
[02:35] <Snowfairy> MikkelRev, interfaces in /etc/network   Edit that and comment out the lines referring to your network interface.
[02:35] <ulisse> DBO: again?
[02:35] <amarokker> Hi, I am having trouble configuring my networking interfaces too...
[02:35] <Snowfairy> amarokker, what trouble?
[02:36] <calisee> Looking at startup services.. what is lvm?
[02:36] <ulisse> DBO: it prevents restricted-modules to configure, locking apt-get too
[02:36] <garryfre> Desparate shot here but maybe the pocket pc needs to be running linux? Does it run under linux?
[02:36] <DBO> ulisse, ok
[02:36] <amarokker> it fails to start- I have two network devices- one physical on board which isnt connected
[02:36] <amarokker> and another one which is created by adsl usb modem
[02:36] <tobberoth> Cin: I just turned off auto-suspension, and the soundsystem was "restarted". now it works! Thanks for the help :)
[02:36] <ulisse> DBO: I think it has been messed up by a wrong kernel removal
[02:36] <MikkelRev> Snowfairy: ok, thanx
[02:36] <Cin> tobberoth, excellent.
[02:37] <Cin> tobberoth, I'll remember that.
[02:37] <sygma> PPPOE help needed!  (sorry for repeating).
[02:37] <amarokker> I dont know how to configure it properly and I think I've just b0rked it a moment ago...i've been trying to locate that thread on ubuntuforums...no luck yet. So any help would be appreciated. And yes, I cant ping my localhost either.
[02:37] <Frrderick> I dont know how to configure it properly and I think I've just b0rked it a moment ago...i've been trying to locate that thread on ubuntuforums...no luck yet. So any help would be appreciated. And yes, I cant pong my localhost either.
[02:37] <Snowfairy> ... lol!
[02:37] <garryfre> Is wireless involved in the network?
[02:38] <DBO> ulisse, do you have that module loaded?
[02:38] <Snowfairy> amarokker, one moment, I'll try to find a how-to,
[02:38] <Cin> Haha.
[02:38] <garryfre> strange that you can't ping localhost, for that is your own computer that can't ping itself. Hmmm. sec ....
[02:38] <Frrderick> strange that you can't pong localhost, for that is your own computer that can't pong itself. Hmmm. sec ....
[02:38] <Cin> That's gotta stop.
[02:38] <Cin> :p
[02:38] <ulisse> DBO: it doesn't seem to be loaded
[02:39] <Snowfairy> amarokker, have you tried opening a terminal and running sudo pppoeconf
[02:39] <ulisse> ls
[02:39] <garryfre> wow there goes a total cooincidence.
[02:39] <ulisse> DBO: oh, sorry, yes, it's loaded
[02:39] <DBO> ulisse, you need to unload
[02:39] <amarokker> Snowfairy: yeah, did that sometime back...btw, do i need to have dhcp stuff installed to get it all working?
[02:39] <DBO> currently its being used as a block device
[02:39] <polpak> ping?
[02:39] <Frrderick> pong?
[02:40] <garryfre> but one says ping and the other says pong. does anyone else see the double comment witht same words almost or is my client borking on me?
[02:40] <polpak> that's what I though
[02:40] <Frrderick> but one says pong and the other says pong. does anyone else see the double comment witht same words almost or is my client borking on me?
[02:40] <polpak> thought
[02:40] <DBO> garryfre, you seem to have an echo
[02:40] <Snowfairy> amarokker, no, I don't believe so... I think most of it comes installed.... after running pppoeconf, what happens when you use pon?  (it should be like pon dsl-provider) or whatever you called the config made in pppoeconf
[02:40] <garryfre> Yeah
[02:40] <DBO> garryfre, you know anything about it?
[02:40] <garryfre> DBO yeah.
[02:40] <polpak> Frrderick is just a bot repeating any line with ping in it and replacing it with pong
[02:40] <Frrderick> Frrderick is just a bot repeating any line with pong in it and replacing it with pong
[02:40] <Xgates> when ubuntu updates kernels it doesn't remove the old one?
[02:40] <garryfre> DBO not about the echo.
[02:41] <garryfre> LOL
[02:41] <DBO> Frrderick, needs to go
[02:41] <polpak> indeed
[02:41] <garryfre> Sure does.
[02:41] <DBO> !ops
[02:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:41] <hyperstream> omg i just installed vista beta2 and it foookered my ubuntu mBR booot record how can i recover from this as vist sucks the wangage WEWT
[02:41] <Hobbsee> DBO: ?
[02:41] <rob> ?
[02:41] <Frrderick> iThe answer is 42! just try it out!
[02:41] <DBO> Hobbsee, can you get rid of Frrderick
[02:41] <DBO> thanks
[02:41] <garryfre> Thats kind of funny but can be annoying.
[02:41] <salmiak_> how do i mount a .bin file?
[02:41] <linux10> ada kadal
[02:42] <hyperstream> please someone save me life i am suffering windozeage
[02:42] <wapgeek> please please eth1 help, lol
[02:42] <DBO> !grub
[02:42] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:42] <wapgeek> tired of doin google
[02:42] <Xgates> hyperstream: I believe the cd acts as a rescue
[02:42] <DBO> second link there hyperstream
[02:42] <amit> how to enable the SMTP server in ubuntu?
[02:42] <amarokker> Snowfairy: thanks for the help  - and here are the errors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jdO2MP11.html
[02:42] <salmiak_> How do i mount a bin file?
[02:42] <hyperstream> DBo THE do nnot work
[02:42] <hyperstream> ive tried them
[02:42] <garryfre> Hmmm, maybe you need to have localhost defened in some file named host or something?
[02:42] <Snowfairy> hyperstream why'd you install vista anyways? :P
[02:42] <Snowfairy> if you have a dapper disk, you might be able to recover.   There's actually a guide somewhere on how to restore the MBR....
[02:42] <hyperstream> i get grub errors
[02:42] <garryfre> or try running ifconfig?
[02:43] <DBO> hyperstream, which grub errors?
[02:43] <hyperstream> Snowfairy i know sh Lx
[02:43] <Xgates> does anyone know ubuntu updates kernels it doesn't remove the old one, or you have to uninstall it?
[02:43] <hyperstream> grub error 12
[02:43] <hyperstream> ETC
[02:43] <tobberoth> It doesn't remove the old one.
[02:43] <hyperstream> Im drunk
[02:43] <tobberoth> It just adds the new one to grub.
[02:43] <boxmga> hi everybody... anybody speaks portuguese here?
[02:43] <Pupeno> thank you.
[02:43] <Pupeno> !pt
[02:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:43] <wapgeek> can i do it directly without ifconfig?
[02:43] <amit> how to enable the SMTP server in ubuntu?
[02:43] <hyperstream> it cannot install or repair the boot record
[02:43] <hayden> how can i change fstab so that any dir or file that is made is made by user 'nobody' in 'nogroup' ?
[02:43] <hyperstream> as vista has somekinda protection i belive
[02:43] <dava> HOI BOLEH GABUNG LAH
[02:44] <Snowfairy> amarokker, hrm... I might have to defer this to someone more knowledgeble... one of the things I Would check is to see if drivers for your usb modem loaded.
[02:44] <hayden> how can i change fstab so that any dir or file that is made is made by user 'nobody' in 'nogroup', in a certain partition?
[02:44] <edneymatias> morning all!
[02:44] <hyperstream> i followed online guides ETX
[02:44] <Xgates> tobberoth: ok
[02:44] <sygma> PPPOE help needed - thanks. {i have already tried pppoeconf}
[02:44] <DBO> hyperstream, i think you got k-lined by vista
[02:44] <amit> how to enable the SMTP server in ubuntu?
[02:44] <DBO> hydroksyde, no idea how to fix that
[02:44] <dava> HAI SIAPA INI
[02:44] <amarokker> Snowfairy: actually yeah- i compiled 'em myself
[02:44] <DBO> amit, you need to get either sendmail or postfix
[02:44] <ulisse> DBO: it seems to be used by usbcore and I cannot remove it
[02:44] <Healot> sygma: your DSL modem has locked firmware?
[02:44] <garryfre> It just adds the new one as a new file and puts it into grub list, really really old kernels remain, but they are removed from the grub list in a last in last out fashion.
[02:44] <DBO> amit, for a newbie I suggest postfix
[02:44] <amarokker> anywhos, thanks, I'll try some more suggestions from the forum
[02:45] <hyperstream> DBO thats imipossible
[02:45] <amit> how do i do it?
[02:45] <Snowfairy> amarokker, having compiled them yourself, are you sure it's referred to as /dev/modem?     My dial-up drivers (when I compiled them) made a device /dev/536ep0
[02:45] <hyperstream> to get klined
[02:45] <hyperstream> by a OS
[02:45] <garryfre> !smtp
[02:45] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[02:45] <ulisse> DBO: anyway I don't think that it is actually in use, because I'm running a different version of the kernel
[02:45] <dava> I'M SORY I JUST WANT JOINT WITH U
[02:45] <hyperstream> !vista
[02:45] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperstream
[02:45] <amit> how do i do it?
[02:45] <DBO> hyperstream, yes thank you, I mean that vista took over your MBR and I have no idea how to fix it
[02:45] <dava> CAN YOU GIVE A CHANGE
[02:45] <Snowfairy> hyperstream, grab a windows xp disc
[02:46] <garryfre> That should be part of evolution unless yo mean you want to make a mail server instead of a mail client.
[02:46] <hyperstream> we
[02:46] <hyperstream> 'll
[02:46] <Snowfairy> hyperstream,   start in repair mode, and then do FIXMBR
[02:46] <hyperstream> then why didnt you state so
[02:46] <hyperstream> Snowfairy as ive replyied
[02:46] <hyperstream> ive tried most things
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> can mplayer handle .m3u files
[02:46] <hyperstream> as online sites have sugested
[02:46] <garryfre> Just blame the slow acting coffee.
[02:46] <Snowfairy> hyperstream, remove hard disk, throw in trash, buy new one :P
[02:46] <amit> ok i have installed postfix.........how to use it now
[02:46] <hyperstream> and things such as that dont work
[02:46] <Some_Person> Is there a GUI frontend for WvDial? (not gnome-ppp)
[02:47] <hyperstream> Snowfairy stfu newb . as least reformat lowlevel and reinstall
[02:47] <hyperstream> b ut if linux cannot RECOVER FROM VISTA
[02:47] <hyperstream> THEN IT S A PoS YEAH
[02:47] <hyperstream> POS OS
[02:47] <Snowfairy> hyperstream, if you already had a solution, why are you asking here?
[02:48] <hyperstream> I HAVE NOT
[02:48] <hyperstream> you newblet
[02:48] <Snowfairy> -.-
[02:48] <hyperstream> PWNED
[02:48] <mnk> ok can someone pls tell me whether i should install hotplug? when i try to install it, it says it will uninstall loads of packages incl: update manager, gnome power manager, gnome session, and loads of other stuff
[02:48] <tobberoth> Thanks Hobbsee :)
[02:48] <Some_Person> ubuntu is the oposite of a POS
[02:48] <Snowfairy> thanks Hobbsee
[02:48] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: going to behave?
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> is memtest86 meant to keep running after 100% until it finds an error?
[02:48] <garryfre> Sometimes a joke is mistaken for a newbie comment.
[02:48] <Geev8> hi u all
[02:49] <DBO> hi Geev8
[02:49] <Snowfairy> Tommy2k4, memtest runs until you stop it afaik
[02:49] <hyperstream> hobbse sorry sir but the users here replying to my problems have no knowledge of my issue and are being sarcasitic
[02:49] <Tommy2k4> kk
[02:49] <hyperstream> which is kinda annoyhing
[02:49] <hyperstream> in other wor4ds
[02:49] <amit> DBO : how to use postfix
[02:49] <DBO> Snowfairy, thats right
[02:49] <hyperstream> yes
[02:49] <garryfre> nods
[02:49] <Some_Person> i need a frontend with a GUI for WvDial, do any exist (other than gnome-ppp)
[02:49] <cppnewbie> how do i leave root mode in the terminal?
[02:49] <tobberoth> hyperstream: You're not exaplaining your problem properly then.
[02:49] <DBO> amit, its fairly complex to configure, but to start it after you have installed it do sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start
[02:49] <bbrazil> cppnewbie: exit
[02:49] <Hobbsee> cppnewbie: type exit
[02:49] <redblades> Hi, I seem to be having a few issues with Music playing
[02:50] <garryfre> One must be careful about what one's jokes. It might be taken for serious advice.
[02:50] <Cin> cppnewbie, hack the Gibson.
[02:50] <polpak> hyperstream: perhaps if you spent more time explaining your problem and less time calling people "newbs" and saying "PWND" you'd get a solution, rather than sarcasm
[02:50] <Snowfairy> hyperstream, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, I did make a small crack about the hard drive, and you said at least low-level format.      Regardless.  Without more information it's really hard to help, why does windows xp in repair fail to fix the MBR?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: what's your problem?
[02:50] <hayden> how can i change fstab so that any dir or file that is made is made by user 'nobody' in 'nogroup', in a certain partition?
[02:50] <Snowfairy> I've only ever had windows fail to fix the mbr when the drive was corrupt in the first place.
[02:50] <Hobbsee> !grub
[02:50] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:50] <Varanger> hello al!
[02:50] <DBO> amit, as far as configuration of postfix goes, google is your friend
[02:50] <tobberoth> I've had the same problem, WinXP wouldn't overwrite the MBR
[02:50] <Some_Person> i need a frontend with a GUI for WvDial, do any exist (other than gnome-ppp)
[02:50] <cppnewbie> hm, i pressed sh and now instead of the usual stuff it shows sh-3.00$, how can i go back once again?
[02:50] <Cin> cppnewbie, exit exit exit exit!
[02:50] <polpak> cppnewbie: exit
[02:51] <Tommy2k4> how can i apt-get opera
[02:51] <cppnewbie> rofl, exit all the time? :P
[02:51] <Snowfairy> tobberoth, really?  that's strange.   Guess it recognizes it as a new windows os...
[02:51] <redblades> I'm trying to rip mp3's (sound juicer) and I find that I can't install gstreamer-??-lame
[02:51] <Cin> cppnewbie, :P
[02:51] <Snowfairy> what about dos?  can't dos do FDISK /MBR
[02:51] <Tommy2k4> i added the repo and did update but when i apt-get opera-static it says i have newest when i dont
[02:51] <Healot> !oprea
[02:51] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[02:51] <Varanger> If I want to install Dapper from a zero installation... do I need the "Desktop" or "Alternate" CD's ???
[02:51] <Healot> !opera
[02:51] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:51] <amit> DBO : it has started .....now how to use it?
[02:51] <Some_Person> hayden: u cant but u can make it rewritable by all users
[02:51] <redblades> because of a dependency problem
[02:51] <DBO> amit, its a server... you dont use it directly.  you need to configure it
[02:51] <hayden> Some_Person, how do i do that?
[02:51] <amit> it has been configured
[02:52] <Varanger> If I want to install Dapper from a zero installation... do I need the "Desktop" or "Alternate" CD's ???
[02:52] <tobberoth> Yeah Snowfairy, I dunnu, but I spent a lot of time, using fixmbr etc, it wouldn't.. so I had to format the windows drive.
[02:52] <garryfre> That's how I fixed mine when a defective grub was put on my windows hard drive. aka fdisk /mbr
[02:52] <Some_Person> hayden: what filesystenm are the drives u want to mount?
[02:52] <a1e> hi
[02:52] <hayden> Some_Person, ext3
[02:52] <garryfre> Ouch!
[02:52] <DBO> amit, fantastic, so point your email client at 127.0.0.1 and it will pick it up if its configured properly
[02:52] <redblades> Anyone?
[02:52] <Some_Person> hayden: and where is this partition?
[02:52] <tobberoth> Varanger: Use the liveCD.
[02:52] <tobberoth> Varanger: It comes with an installation GUI etc.
[02:52] <hayden> /dev/hda3
[02:52] <Some_Person> thanks
[02:53] <Varanger> tobberot: There is not LiveCD... is it the Desktop CD now?
[02:53] <Varanger> tobberoth: There is not LiveCD... is it the Desktop CD now?
[02:53] <amit> what command should i use...........sendmail or something?
[02:53] <hyperstream> Hobbsee, tobberoth ok ive installed vista which fooks the mbr  which removes the grub loader which then disables you from loading a  kernal image (ubuntu) how can ireparir ive tried the recovery on the linux ubuntu install disk you get grub errors while trying to re implement the grub stuff [AnYONE HERE INSTALL VISTA OVER "Ubuntu"] 
[02:53] <tobberoth> Varanger: Hmm.. I suppose so. But I'm not sure, it was called liveCD when I got mine.
[02:53] <a1e> I have a problem with Ubuntu 6.06: network doesn't work. I can't comunicate with my router. I tried to use DHCP and also manual configuration... but it doesn't work... can you help me, please?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: pastebin the grub errors
[02:53] <DBO> amit, its an smpt server, sendmail will work fine
[02:54] <DBO> Hobbsee, he gets grub error 12
[02:54] <tobberoth> hyperstream, did you use the liveCD, went into terminal, then did the root (hd0,4) setup (hd0,0) stuff? That worked for me, if it doesn't for you, it's very odd.
[02:54] <Hobbsee> DBO: which is?
[02:54] <DBO> Hobbsee, that pretty much means his menu.lst is syntax ok, but logically snafu
[02:54] <amit> DBO : please tell me a last thing ...
[02:54] <hyperstream> tobberoth ive tried i get errors
[02:54] <tobberoth> hyperstream: Oh, then I have no idea, sorry :/
[02:54] <hyperstream> hda(0,1)
[02:54] <hyperstream> is what i use
[02:55] <amit> what should i do to email something to my account in yahoo
[02:55] <mnk> ok can someone pls tell me whether i should install hotplug? when i try to install it, it says it will uninstall loads of packages incl: update manager, gnome power manager, gnome session, and loads of other stuff
[02:55] <mnk> i am trying to sync my xda 2i [pocket pc]  with evolution using multisync / synce but no luck! i can't even sync evolution with backup; it just says waiting for change and when i do make a change in evo, nothing happens in the backup directory
[02:55] <hyperstream> as its my /root/ partition
[02:55] <tobberoth> hmm, uou can't use hda(0,1), grub only understands hd0,0 format
[02:55] <Some_Person> hayden: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[02:55] <hyperstream> hobbsee yyou cannot copy the grub errors
[02:55] <garryfre> I managed to get grub on my fourth hard drive in it's mbr, point root at the same drive and use system commander and viola! I'm booting ubuntu from the fourth drive from a boot manager in windoze
[02:55] <iiiears> This link may be helpfull to back up your bootsector. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[02:55] <Some_Person> this assumes u mount it at /media/hda3
[02:55] <hyperstream> look
[02:55] <DBO> amit, you would need a domain, but all you have to do is put the email address @yahoo.com in your sendmail to feild and away it will go
[02:55] <hyperstream> never mind
[02:56] <redblades> I can play the visual of the movie, but I get no sound
[02:56] <DBO> hyperstream, check and make sure your drive partition numbers have not changed after the vista install
[02:56] <hyperstream> you guys have no experience with vista and
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: does http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml?style=printable fix it?
[02:56] <garryfre> I found the grubfarm site helpful I think it's refrenced from here ....
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: true
[02:56] <garryfre> !grub
[02:56] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:56] <hyperstream> know nothing considering the vista install process
[02:56] <amit> thanks DBO
[02:57] <tobberoth> hyperstream: It's sorta odd if Vista installs MBR completely different than WinXP
[02:57] <hyperstream> DBO do you know that im not newb when it come to  unix based OS
[02:57] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: most people dont try to dual boot vista i expect - they stick it in a VM
[02:57] <garryfre> We know Migrainesoft, they just love to change things.
[02:57] <lastnode> hyperstream, you're being awfully rude in a channel where you want help, mate
[02:57] <iiiears> (Wondering how Vista compares to XP in complicating things.)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> hyperstream: did you try the link i gave you, on what the solution to error 12 is?
[02:57] <Some_Person> I have a XP/Vista/Ubuntu dualboot
[02:57] <hyperstream> tobberoth: yes beta 2 can be on any hdd and any partition
[02:58] <DBO> hyperstream, i never called you a newb
[02:58] <tobberoth> hyperstream: Oh.. that's awesome, but not for you I guess :/
[02:58] <hyperstream> lastnode sorry im cut and aussie
[02:58] <garryfre> I bet it don't fit on a memstick. :)
[02:58] <iiiears> lol
[02:58] <cppnewbie> rofl
[02:58] <hyperstream> looks
[02:58] <hyperstream>  brb
[02:58] <hyperstream> i need a slash
[02:58] <hayden> thanks Some_Person, i'll give it a try
[02:58] <Some_Person> I simply installed Vista to the MBR and used BootPart to boot XP/Ubuntu
[02:58] <Some_Person> no problem, hayden
[02:59] <iiiears> 10 gigabytes last i read. - compiled with debugging code so it might shrink a gig or two on release.
[02:59] <nedrus> Is there a image for the VMWare Player of Ubuntu 6.06? I only found http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ubuntu.html which is Ubuntu 5.10.
[02:59] <the_Kane> hey
[02:59] <hyperstream> someperson... he's gone for a sec repeat for now thanks
[02:59] <sam_> I installed fglrx works fine direct redering enabled  when using glxgears to check fps cpu maxs out is this right?
[02:59] <adl> i have a little problem with networking: i have a static configuration for eth0 with ip 192.168.0.19, on ifconfig and on the network-applet in gnome it says it has a virtual private ip with 169.254.something - from the network it can be pinged with the ip it should have, and the machine can also access the network - why does it show such weird things?
[03:00] <Snowfairy> nedrus,  I'm not entirely sure... but you can make blank vmware player images, and then install onto them.
[03:00] <NV> re
[03:00] <the_Kane> QUESTION: well i've set up wine and got quake 3 working... but it's 'laggy' it was like that in win2000 but i managed to solve it by updating/fixing opengl so how can i do this in ubuntu?
[03:00] <lastnode> nedrus, apt-cache search? i thinkdapper has it in multiverse
[03:00] <amit> DBO : i could type the message but how to send it?
[03:00] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, what video card do you have?
[03:00] <apokryphos> the_Kane: have you got the drivers installed and running for your card?
[03:00] <polpak> the_Kane: you don't need wine for quake 3
[03:00] <DBO> press ctrl+d amit
[03:00] <garryfre> Hmmm, I guess I get to be the first to say Vista beta stands for very Irritating software Trial Application, or /shrug, maybe its is good.
[03:00] <amit> ok
[03:00] <js_> the_Kane: why do you run quuake 3 in wine when theres a native linux client?
[03:01] <Snowfairy> Ah... I missed the wine part.
[03:01] <the_Kane> polpak: i dont want to have to download the point release, im on dial-up...
[03:01] <MatthewV> nedrus, there is a ubuntu 6.06 server image
[03:01] <MatthewV> nedrus, you could upgrade that?
[03:01] <the_Kane> apokryphos, snowfairy: not yet.. do you recommend i download latest drivers?
[03:01] <apokryphos> the_Kane: what card do you have?
[03:01] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, it'd probably be very helpful to have the latest graphics drivers for your card... but wine will slow it down no matter what
[03:01] <garryfre> yeah, on the ID site, they have the linux versions. Runs fine, last time I looked, but doesn't play music.
[03:01] <the_Kane> apokryphos: i dont know, some standerd VGA that came with the computer (8 meg)
[03:02] <nedrus> MatthewV: apt-get upgrade is fine for me. But not for my fellows.
[03:02] <apokryphos> no, then you're fine for the moment
[03:03] <Snowfairy> if you weren't in aus I'd offer to download and mail you a cd of the download. (I was on dial-up when I first got ubuntu, I know the pain of downloading anything semi-large :P)
[03:03] <hyperstream> Some_Person: omg your a legend i googled and  yeah can you
[03:03] <hyperstream> shh
[03:03] <hyperstream> brb
[03:03] <the_Kane> js_ : do i have to download the latest point release for Q3, or is there another way?
[03:03] <hyperstream> Some_Person can you pm me please
[03:03] <MatthewV> nedrus, couldn't you download the server image, do a 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and tehn redistribute that image to whoever wants it
[03:03] <js_> the_Kane: i'm afraid not.. either way, make sure you got hardware acceleration enabled for your graphics card
[03:03] <polpak> the_Kane: the problem is your video card drivers probably don't support open GL
[03:03] <Snowfairy> polpak, he said in windows it worked.
[03:04] <garryfre> Ohh, I feeling nice and sleepy. Now I can get some rest. Bless those packets of Alkaselzor cold/flu tablets. Farewell for now all.
[03:04] <Snowfairy> so... that would mean the card supports open gl, no?
[03:04] <polpak> Snowfairy: well the windows drivers might.. but w/o knowing what card he has...
[03:04] <garryfre> Hmm, what vid card is it? OGL has been around awhile.
[03:04] <Snowfairy> oh, right.
[03:04] <the_Kane> polpak: but it worked fine in Windows 2000... i just assume as js_ said, i need to enable hardware acceleration :S
[03:05] <tuxtheslacker> hey guys. I noticed there were 63 updates today, what went on that there were all the updates?
[03:05] <polpak> the_Kane: well if the spec for the card is open, then there may be OGL drivers for it. Otherwise it's much less likely
[03:05] <the_Kane> how can i find out what card i have?
[03:05] <Some_Person> hyperstream: what do you want in PM?
[03:05] <polpak> the_Kane: lspci should give some idea
[03:05] <the_Kane> ill try..
[03:05] <the_Kane> oh hang on..
[03:05] <Hobbsee> tuxtheslacker: some kernel updates
[03:05] <Snowfairy> tuxtheslacker, holy crap, you're right, 55 updates :P
[03:05] <the_Kane> its not pci, its built into the motherborard
[03:05] <garryfre> One of the programmers discovered the coffee they were drinking was decafienated?
[03:05] <Snowfairy> I noticed the little thing come on :P but didn't check it
[03:06] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, that's alright, it should still list in lspci
[03:06] <garryfre> I got to check these out.
[03:06] <DewDude> I'm having this strange problem with my laptop and i've had it for a while, but it's getting really annoying now. the brightness on my LCD has a habit of switching between two brightnesses, really bright and about two steps below that. it just, randomly starts switching between them and the flashing effect is crazy. it's not an actual flash like it's going completely off, it's just getting a little dim and a little bright...
[03:06] <DewDude> like it's going from AC to battery
[03:06] <tuxtheslacker> Hobbsee, thanks :-)
[03:06] <the_Kane> chipset graphics controller?
[03:06] <DewDude> could this be a software thing with ubuntu, cuz it never did it in windows
[03:06] <Some_Person> hyperstream: what do you want in pm?
[03:06] <amee2k> hi all
[03:07] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, can you paste the results on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please?
[03:07] <the_Kane> Intel Corporation 82810 CGC   <-- i think thats my card
[03:07] <siriusnova> Ubuntu Improved My Sex Life
[03:07] <Sapholin> Greetings all, short-while linux user, a bit new to Ubuntu. When one of you has the time, could I get some help with a squiggly little ATI driver issue?
[03:07] <Snowfairy> That sound more correct.
[03:07] <hyperstream> Some_Person if you dont mind check you're pm
[03:07] <the_Kane> Snowfairy: yeh thats my card ^^
[03:07] <amee2k> i'm new to ubuntu. how can i get a DivX codec (for decoding)?
[03:07] <LjL> !restricted
[03:07] <fightpc_> DewDude: are you keeping windows? can you try windows to see what happens?
[03:07] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[03:07] <DewDude> amee2k: the easiest way is to get VLC
[03:08] <DewDude> fightpc_, no, i didn't keep windows on this machine at all.
[03:08] <the_Kane> snowfairy: should i google linux opengl drivers?
[03:08] <hyperstream> or just ask me to explain here if its  a issue sir
[03:08] <DewDude> but i remember when it was running windows, it didn't do this...day i put ubuntu on it, i noticed it was
[03:08] <fightpc_> DewDude: do you have any key combination to change brightness?
[03:08] <Some_Person> hyperstream: what do u want in PM?
[03:08] <DewDude> yeah, i took it up all the way
[03:08] <amee2k> k. ty
[03:08] <DewDude> doesn't help, it'll still jump slightly dim
[03:09] <Fee^> anyone else besides me have an update manager that won't install updates?  i have to use apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:09] <Snowfairy> the_Kane  google sometimes helps :)  I'm trying to see if I can find a way to test whether it supports opengl or not :P
[03:09] <DewDude> it's not a gradual change, it's instant..like i said, removing the laptop from AC to battery...except that's not the case becuase i don't have a battery in here
[03:09] <AlexC> Hey
[03:09] <assasukasse> how do i remove old kernels from ubuntu? i updated to .25 and i don't need anymore .23...
[03:09] <redblades> Come on, I really need help, I've followed about 3 different peoples advice and I can't seem to get rhythm box to play the mp3's I rip (although, I may be having issues ripping them
[03:09] <the_Kane> snowfairy: oh ok thanks ;)
[03:09] <Hobbsee> Fee^: likely kernel upgrade, yes
[03:09] <fightpc_> DewDude: but the point is: even if the keys do not remove the problem are yoiu still able to change bightness by pressing the keys
[03:09] <hayden> hmm i had error with that line Some_Person
[03:09] <DewDude> oh, yes
[03:09] <tobberoth> Wow, has there been some huge update today? I got like 57 updates from running adept updater.
[03:09] <Some_Person> hayden: what error?
[03:09] <Fee^> Hobbsee: kernel upgrade?
[03:09] <redblades> tobberoth: me too
[03:09] <DewDude> brightness change is working just fine.
[03:09] <Hobbsee> Fee^: dapper had a kernel upgrade today
[03:09] <polpak> yep, bunch of updates
[03:09] <Fee^> the only kernel upgrade i did was breezy > dapper
[03:09] <Fee^> hobbsee: this has been happening since breezy
[03:10] <fightpc_> DewDude: so ti seems a hardware problem is ruled out then
[03:10] <Hobbsee> Fee^: er....okay then..
[03:10] <DewDude> fightpc_, yes. oddly enough, i don't see it when runnning console mode
[03:10] <Fee^> i've tried re-installing update-manager
[03:10] <DewDude> i only notice it in X...but, that doesn't mean it doesn't do it
[03:10] <Fee^> that doesn't work
[03:10] <fightpc_> DewDude: hmm, strange really
[03:10] <Snowfairy> there's a glxgears application that i use myself... but, it's not exactly reliable and I don't remember what the command-line option for printing FPS is.
[03:10] <DewDude> fightpc_, i thought so too. which is why i came in here and asked.
[03:10] <Snowfairy> But... generally if it's choppy as heck, opengl isn't working
[03:11] <Snowfairy> if it's running pretty smooth opengl is working
[03:11] <DewDude> it's just a tad annoying when it does it for 20 minutes straight, then it'll stop for a few hours
[03:11] <polpak> Fee^: my guess is your repos are disabled (apart from the CD repo) so you aren't getting the updates
[03:11] <DewDude> then start back up
[03:11] <hayden> Some_Person, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,  missing codepage or other error
[03:11] <the_Kane> snowfairy: would that card have the 810 chipset?
[03:11] <polpak> Fee^: or at the very least your security and update repos are disabled
[03:11] <Some_Person> ok
[03:11] <richiefrich> u can test opengl
[03:11] <Fee^> polpak /etc/apt/sources.dist works fine... and again, i can run apt-get dist-upgrade and that works
[03:11] <the_Kane> judging by the name...?
[03:11] <Snowfairy> the_kane, most likely.
[03:11] <fightpc_> DewDude: I'm afraid I do not have an answer. I thought it could be a bad mapping of the power save functions but I do not have a clue. Have you tried booting with noapic switch
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> Don't take this as trolling, but seriously, open office has some work to do to catch up to the office 2007 beta (just an observation)
[03:12] <Sapholin> I have an issue with Mesa and my ATI drivers. It seems some games such as Darwinia and others that use 3D acceleration get stuck using Mesa and I'm not sure how to get around that, or if that's even really my problem.
[03:12] <Fee^> but update-manager only determines updates, then when i press install, it does the 'building dependency tree' step, then just sits back at the list of updates
[03:12] <DewDude> no..i haven't
[03:12] <tuxtheslacker> and I meant to post that in offtopic. sorry.
[03:12] <DewDude> but that is an option since i don't need powersaving
[03:12] <DewDude> will hibernate still work?
[03:12] <Some_Person> hayden: try this: /dev/hda3	/media/hda3  	ext3     	rw,user    	0 	0
[03:12] <the_Kane> snowfairy: theres no drivers on the intel website :S
[03:12] <Sapholin> The issue is its insanely laggy if the games even work at all.
[03:12] <hayden> ok
[03:12] <richiefrich> tuxmaniac why what they add to 2007....  more crap?
[03:12] <Some_Person> hayden: also go to terminal and type sudo mkdir /media/hda3
[03:12] <the_Kane> snowfairy: should i look alswhere or is the search hopeless...
[03:12] <polpak> Sapholin: use the ATI wiki to install proper drivers
[03:12] <tuxmaniac> tuxtheslacker> ^^^^
[03:13] <polpak> !tell Sapholin about ATI
[03:13] <fightpc_> DewDude: it might cause some problem with suspend or hibernate, but if you are AC powered it might not be a major problem
[03:13] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, I -think- intel 810 drivers are included... so I'm leaning towards the fact that you're trying in wine is why it's so slow.
[03:13] <hayden> Some_Person, the mount dir is made
[03:13] <tuxtheslacker> tuxmaniac, it's changed it's UI.
[03:13] <Sapholin> Oh, thank you polpak
[03:13] <Some_Person> ,ok
[03:13] <DewDude> well, i'm AC powered becuse i lack battery..if i decide to go somewhere, i hibernate the laptop so i don't have to wait for it to go through the entire boot sequence
[03:13] <polpak> Snowfairy: they are included, but I don't think they support OGL
[03:13] <tuxtheslacker> as bad as it looks to start with it's 100x more intuitive.
[03:13] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, I wouldn't give up all hope, I just don't think I'm knowledgeble enough to give a complete answer on that.
[03:13] <tuxmaniac> tuopppi> richiefrich--> tuxmaniac why what they add to 2007....  more crap?
[03:13] <polpak> the_Kane: can you type glxinfo | grep direct on the terminal and tell what the output is?
[03:14] <the_Kane> snowfairy: so you would recommend just download the point release.. ?
[03:14] <tuxmaniac> tuxtheslacker>  richiefrich--> tuxmaniac why what they add to 2007....  more crap?
[03:14] <richiefrich> tuxmaniac wrong person
[03:14] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, follow polpak's instruction, he might be onto something :)
[03:14] <fightpc_> DewDude: good luck with noapic.
[03:14] <DewDude> anyway, thanks for te help fightpc_, i'll try that and see what the issue is. maybe it's a bug that needs reporting
[03:14] <hyperstream> as ALLL UBUUNT MOFO's dont no how to recover from a VISTA install.  yet linux geekorz as myself dont know how to recover ffrom lame windoze VISTA NNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWVVVVVVVVVZ
[03:14] <fightpc_> DewDude: or acpi=off
[03:14] <tuxtheslacker> tuxmaniac, ^^
[03:14] <tuxtheslacker> tuxmaniac, bassically, they've overhauled the UI and made it MUCH better.
[03:14] <the_Kane> polpak: i get an unknown command thing... it says usage: grep (blah...) try grep --help
[03:15] <polpak> the_Kane:  type  glxinfo | grep direct
[03:15] <the_Kane> polpak: glxinfo by itself gives me output
[03:15] <Some_Person> how come my cdrom drive wont mount when i stick it in the drive (i must mount it in terminal)
[03:15] <Some_Person> do i need a line is fstab for that?
[03:15] <Geev8> hi u all
[03:15] <rob> Seveas, I've klined him
[03:15] <the_Kane> polpak: oh.. got it: direct rendering: no  | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:16] <Geev8> am a user of ubuntu
[03:16] <Geev8> i need help
[03:16] <polpak> the_Kane: yep, no OGL drivers for that card
[03:16] <Seveas> rob, heh, always nice to have freenode staff looking 
[03:16] <Goshawk> hi Geev8
[03:16] <Some_Person> hyperstream: whats in the MBR/
[03:16] <the_Kane> polpak: do i have to search and download them?
[03:16] <richiefrich> Geev8 with ?
[03:16] <polpak> the_Kane: My suggestion would be to go buy a $40 nvidia GeForce 4 (or better) from compusa
[03:16] <croesus> is there an ubuntu package similar to the simple "system-config-securitylevel" for fedora?  Any idea how to get it?
[03:17] <rob> Seveas, hey, I'm one of you guys too :)
[03:17] <the_Kane> polpak: what about for the time being... ;)
[03:17] <richiefrich> what video card do u have now ?
[03:17] <richiefrich> the_Kane  ^
[03:17] <polpak> the_Kane: no, you can't get them for that card.. The spec isn't open, so the only one who could provide them would be intel, and they haven't seen fit to make OGL drivers for linux for it
[03:18] <the_Kane> richiefrich: intel 82810 (build onto motherboard)
[03:18] <Healot> croesus: by default ubuntu disabled SELinux, thus no need for such configuration
[03:18] <the_Kane> polpak: in one word... sh**
[03:18] <Some_Person> hyperstream: I think I had your same exact problem, so tell me, whats in the MBR?
[03:18] <Geev8> when am copping file from my computer to any floppy or flash disk it display an error "error while copying to /media/floppy
[03:18] <the_Kane> lol
[03:18] <richiefrich> the_Kane yeah polpak is right... no opengl for u
[03:18] <Draconicus> X crashes when I do random things, espcially when I view certain websites (THEY DON'T CONTAIN FLASH) in Firefox or tweak some GUI settings... or run certain programs. Hell, it crashes with a lot of things. I think some vital part of X is broken or missing. Can somebody suggest something?
[03:18] <Warbo> Geev8: Is it a permission thing do you think?
[03:18] <polpak> the_Kane: you can complain to intel but they probably won't do anything
[03:18] <Draconicus> It's Breezy.
[03:18] <richiefrich> Draconicus u try in safe-mode
[03:19] <polpak> the_Kane: best bet is to get an NVidia or ATI card that has supported OGL drivers
[03:19] <robert_> is there a cli utility to configure courier-imap on the latest edition of the Ubuntu server distro?
[03:19] <Draconicus> richiefrich: I'm not running GNOME.
[03:19] <richiefrich> Draconicus SO
[03:19] <Geev8> it says i dont have permissions to write ti this folder
[03:19] <Draconicus> richiefrich: There is no "safe mode" for XFCE, if that's what you mean.
[03:19] <Geev8> so what should i do
[03:19] <asplode> office 2007 != openoffice
[03:19] <richiefrich> Draconicus yes there iis.. for FF
[03:19] <polpak> the_Kane: you can probably find one that's cheaper than Quake 3 was (if you bought the game new)
[03:19] <Goshawk> Geev8: did you mount them from command line?
[03:19] <richiefrich> Draconicus man listen
[03:19] <Draconicus> richiefrich: It's not exclusively a Firefox problem. Pay more attention.
[03:19] <Geev8> yas Wabo
[03:19] <Warbo> Geev8: You need to edit /etc/fstab as super user ("gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"), tell me when you have it open
[03:20] <richiefrich> Draconicus no u siad FF
[03:20] <asplode> wonder what new features 2007 has, the ability to rocket your contact list to all known spammers?
[03:20] <Geev8> ok warbo
[03:20] <croesus> Healot: yeah, but the selinux is not what I'm looking for,...I'd like a simple interface gui for a user to be able to quickly edit their allowed processes.
[03:20] <Some_Person> hyperstream: whats in the MBR
[03:20] <Draconicus> richiefrich: <Draconicus> X crashes when I do random things, espcially when I view certain websites (THEY DON'T CONTAIN FLASH) in Firefox or tweak some GUI settings... or run certain programs. Hell, it crashes with a lot of things. I think some vital part of X is broken or missing. Can somebody suggest something?
[03:20] <Hackmo> hey all
[03:20] <Healot> croesus: I wasn't talking about SElinux
[03:20] <Hackmo> i'm having a problem with firefox
[03:21] <Hackmo> it wont let me start it because it says that my profile is already in use
[03:21] <Warbo> Geev8: Is there a line about the floppy drive there (/dev/fd0)?
[03:21] <BCS> How do u go about stopping a service say bluetooth from starting on startup
[03:21] <Warbo> Hackmo: Try "killall firefox-bin"
[03:21] <richiefrich> Draconicus what ver of xfce>
[03:21] <Snowfairy> hrm... all that opengl talk...  I do hace direct rendering : yes... but I just noticed my opengl is awfully dang slow :/
[03:21] <Tommy2k4> whats the command to install a .deb
[03:21] <Some_Person> do i need a line in fstab to make my cdroms automount when i stick them in the drive?
[03:21] <Snowfairy> I remember it being much faster... wonder what happened.
[03:21] <Warbo> Tommy2k4: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:21] <Tommy2k4> ty
[03:21] <somecoolpc> which version of ubuntu do i download to install on my sunfire T2000 server?
[03:21] <Draconicus> richiefrich: 4.2.2
[03:21] <graveson> how do i clean up my apt-get update .i keep on receiving gpg errors ?
[03:22] <croesus> Healot: <Healot> croesus: by default ubuntu disabled SELinux, thus no need for such configuration  <Healot> croesus: I wasn't talking about SElinux  ?!?
[03:22] <BCS> graveson: apt-get autoclean, and then apt-get clean
[03:22] <BCS> graveson: sudo of course in front
[03:22] <Some_Person> do i need a line in fstab to make my cdroms automount when i stick them in the drive?
[03:22] <eigenlambda> hey um, so when you change the sound volume with the volume keys on they keyboard, a picture displays telling you what the volume is?
[03:22] <Warbo> graveson: If they are from repos you added then either look on their website for a GPG key or remove them (or comment them) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <the_Kane> graveson: try sudo apt-get clean
[03:22] <Hackmo> anyone got any ideas?
[03:22] <polpak> Snowfairy: do you have any gdesklets running?
[03:22] <eigenlambda> ...but that doesnt happen anymore.  how do i re-enable it?
[03:22] <richiefrich> Draconicus it might be xfce have u tried the newer ver ?
[03:23] <polpak> Snowfairy: specifically the CPU monitor?
[03:23] <richiefrich> Draconicus and what X are u on ?
[03:23] <Snowfairy> polpak, nope... I wonder if it has to do with the UseFBDEV option.
[03:23] <Snowfairy> When I reconfigured X, it asked me about a bunch of them, I just left all it's recommended ones there...
[03:23] <Some_Person> How do I make my cdroms automount when i stick them in the drive?
[03:23] <Draconicus> richiefrich: PUNCTUATE. Anyway, I'm on Breezy. There is virtually no way to get the newer XFCE version. It doesn't compile right thanks to GCC problems, and soforth.
[03:23] <polpak> Snowfairy: ah.. yes, don't use FBDEV I think
[03:23] <Geev8> ok i opened it Warbo
[03:23] <graveson> warbo: i have the normal universe and multiverse repo's .where do i find the GPG keys for these repo's
[03:23] <Some_Person> How do I make my cdroms automount when i stick them in the drive?
[03:23] <richiefrich> Draconicus then get a newer gcc
[03:24] <Snowfairy> polpak, okies, after updates, I'll restart and see if that's fixed it :)
[03:24] <Warbo> Geev8: Is there a line with "/dev/fd0" in it? (that is your floppy drive)
[03:24] <Some_Person> How do I make my cdroms automount when i stick them in the drive?
[03:24] <richiefrich> Draconicus why do u ask questions if u bitch ?
[03:24] <eigenlambda> Some_Person: edit /etc/fstab
[03:24] <richiefrich> about the responce ?
[03:24] <hola> Hello all
[03:24] <BCS> is there a way to stop a service form starting say bluetooth at startup other then removing the /etc/init.d/name of service
[03:24] <Some_Person> and put what in there?
[03:24] <eigenlambda> um
[03:24] <apokryphos> Come on guys, language please.
[03:24] <Warbo> graveson: Sorry, you seem to have nuked the keys which Ubuntu has by default. I don't know where they are, but I'm sure someone else will
[03:25] <eigenlambda> well first, is your cdrom device in /etc/fstab?
[03:25] <Draconicus> richiefrich: Why do you answer questions when you can't even spell "Y O U"
[03:25] <Draconicus> ?
[03:25] <Some_Person> i'm not an fstab expert
[03:25] <apokryphos> Draconicus: stop
[03:25] <eigenlambda> mmm
[03:25] <Some_Person> eigenlambda: no
[03:25] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Alright.
[03:25] <richiefrich> Draconicus i can spell it why must i
[03:25] <hola> Could some one please tell me a good music player, something that will actually play mp3 and wma's etc
[03:25] <richiefrich> Draconicus yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:25] <Some_Person> rhythmbox
[03:25] <eigenlambda> well then.  thats your problem.  nautilus can only automount if you have it in fstab.
[03:25] <richiefrich> u happy
[03:25] <apokryphos> richiefrich: stop
[03:25] <hola> thanks
[03:25] <Geev8> yes warbo
[03:25] <Warbo> hola: Amarok, Banshee, Rhythmbox, Listen (Listen is not in Ubuntu repos)
[03:25] <Draconicus> hola: They all can. You just need the codecs.
[03:25] <graveson> anyone know how i can retrieve the correct GPG keys
[03:25] <Draconicus> !mp3
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:26] <Tommy2k4> xmms wont play wma when mplayer and amarok will =/
[03:26] <Some_Person> !wma
[03:26] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[03:26] <richiefrich> sparkleytone well hes a fu**ing  ass.. i was trying to help
[03:26] <Hackmo> anyone good with firefox problems?
[03:26] <ozant> hi all, isn't it posible to install mysql-server 4.0 on dapper?
[03:26] <Some_Person> eigenlambda: what line do i add to fstab?
[03:26] <Warbo> Geev8: In the "option" column for it (the bit with rw,user,noauto) add "uid=yourusername" (where yourusername is obviously your actual user name)
[03:26] <Healot> Mind Your Language sounds like 1970's British soap
[03:27] <eigenlambda> lol.  i don't even know...
[03:27] <eigenlambda> man fstab?
[03:27] <hola> is there any debian package to install codecs so that rythembox will work ?
[03:27] <eigenlambda> look at the lines that are there?
[03:27] <eigenlambda> &guess
[03:27] <eigenlambda> um
[03:27] <Warbo> Geev8: You need to put a comma between it and the ones already there
[03:27] <polpak> !tell hola about mp3
[03:27] <eigenlambda> google
[03:27] <eigenlambda> i dunno
[03:27] <jrattner1> hola, download easy ubuntu it will do everything for you
[03:27] <hola> hmmmmm
[03:27] <Draconicus> hola: From my experience, rhythmbox is evil and doesn't pay attention to codecs. Try Amarok.
[03:27] <eigenlambda> the_Kane:  ask winehq.org
[03:27] <Healot> the_Kane: wine from France? hehe
[03:27] <eigenlambda> naturally
[03:27] <Healot> WINE
[03:27] <polpak> the_Kane: 0.9.15 I think
[03:27] <hola> okay Amarok
[03:27] <hola> Ill check it out, thanks
[03:28] <Draconicus> :)
[03:28] <polpak> the_Kane: but newer wine version won't help you =p
[03:28] <the_Kane> polpak: would that make 0.9.9 too old?
[03:28] <Some_Person> eigenlambda: thats no help
[03:28] <polpak> draconius: rhythmbox does actually
[03:28] <Some_Person> eigenlambda: whats in ur fstab/
[03:28] <polpak> hola: you don't need amarok, you need to follow the wiki
[03:28] <polpak> hola: read the message ubotu sent you
[03:28] <somecoolpc> any one got any idea what ver of ubuntu i use on a SunFire T2000 server (sparc i think)
[03:29] <polpak> the_Kane: it's not the most recent version no
[03:29] <eigenlambda> Some_Person:  /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:29] <Geev8> edit it "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0"
[03:29] <Healot> somecoolpc: 6.06?
[03:29] <the_Kane> polpak: but still no reall need to update?
[03:29] <Warbo> Geev8: As an example here is my /etc/fstab line for the floppy drive "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=chris  0       0"
[03:29] <Some_Person> eigenlambda: thanks
[03:29] <somecoolpc> yea , 6.06 but which cd do i d/l
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> !opera
[03:29] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:30] <Hackmo> anyone ever had this problem with firefox?
[03:30] <Trograin> Ive installed drivers from nvidia.com and they worked great untill I reboted, then they did not work and I had to run the setup again, and the same thing happened at next reboot. What do I have to add in what file for it to work after reboot?
[03:30] <antox> hello
[03:30] <polpak> the_Kane: you can if you want. go to winehq.org and follow the instructions for ubuntu
[03:30] <Warbo> Trograin: add the word "nvidia" to /etc/modules
[03:30] <polpak> the_Kane: but more importantly you need to get a video card that supports ogl under linux if you want to play games.
[03:30] <Trograin> I hav edone that. I added the word nvidia to xorg.conf
[03:31] <the_Kane> polpak: lol really i need to update all my hardware :P
[03:31] <Trograin> And its a Nvidia 6200
[03:31] <Warbo> Trograin: Have you added it to /etc/modules as well as /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:31] <Trograin> Warbo, ni I didnt
[03:31] <Warbo> Trograin: That tells Linux to load the nvidia driver at boot
[03:31] <Healot> somecoolpc: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/sunfire >> well
[03:31] <antox> can anybody please be so kind and answer one little stupid question (about 3 minutes) ?
[03:31] <Trograin> I will test this. thanx
[03:32] <Geev8> Warbo this is the line for me "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0" edit it i will copy it
[03:32] <eigenlambda> so when you push the multimedia buttons on your keyboard that change the sound volume, not only does the sound volume change, but a box shows up on screen showing you what the new volume is.
[03:32] <jrib> antox: best to just ask the question
[03:32] <Snowfairy> yep, disabling framebuffer cleared it right up.
[03:32] <polpak> antox: just ask the question. if someone can answer.. they will
[03:32] <the_Kane> polpak: also... does synaptic clears its temp files automaticly? because being on dial-up it will take me some time to download java so i was wondering if it keeps the tmp's then continue from where i left of another day?
[03:32] <eigenlambda> for some reason, that box has disappeared on my screen.  i would like it back.
[03:32] <somecoolpc> Healot i have found it, thanks (next time search the forums! )
[03:32] <Warbo> Geev8: I cannot edit it without knowing your username, so what is your username on your computer?
[03:32] <administrador> #debian-es
[03:32] <Snowfairy> I asked last night, but, most of the answers I got were pretty unhelpful.   Is there a bandwidth monitor that'll keep track of how much bandwidth I've used even through reboots?
[03:32] <eigenlambda> what program created that box?
[03:33] <polpak> the_Kane: it will continue if it is interrupted
[03:33] <Geev8> my user name is t01
[03:33] <eigenlambda> why doesn't it do it any more?
[03:33] <Snowfairy> I'm using ntop right now, which is dang spiffy, but, when I reboot, it clears everything
[03:33] <the_Kane> polpak: do you mean "isn't interupted" ?
[03:33] <Warbo> Geev8: OK, so the line should look like this: "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=t01  0       0"
[03:34] <antox> I'm a full-nube. and have deleted the only entry in "Servers to start" in "Login screen setup" on "Xserver" tab... what was there  by default?
[03:34] <Snowfairy> the_Kane, synaptic will resume like a download manager in windows does most of the time.
[03:34] <Draconicus> So, can somebody who knows what they're talking about help me figure out what's breaking X?
[03:34] <polpak> the_Kane: well of course it'll work if it isn't interrupted.. otherwise it wouldn't be much good
[03:34] <polpak> the_Kane: I'm not sure I understood your question ;p
[03:34] <Snowfairy> polpak he wondered if it'd resume if he canceled or lost connection
[03:34] <Warbo> Anyone know how to give options to gnome-volume-manager (the kind of things that /etc/fstab gives to mount)?
[03:34] <the_Kane> snowfairy, polpak: thanks ;) i didn't want to start downloading a big file and shutdown only to try and resume and have it start from scratch :P
[03:35] <Snowfairy> IE: If he gets to 30% of the download and cancels, does it start at 30% again, or 0 :)
[03:35] <Snowfairy> I've had it happen both ways.
[03:35] <polpak> the_Kane: it should resume
[03:35] <Snowfairy> certain files like resuming, certain ones don't.
[03:35] <chad> hey guys... my sound server just had a config switch during upgrade, and now my programs arent using the ALSA mixer for sound playback. I switched the WM to use it, but progs still dont play sound... can I reconfigure ALSA or esd to fix this?
[03:35] <the_Kane> polpak: great thanks ;)
[03:35] <ubunto> how can i install 3d acceleration on a s3 savage?
[03:36] <rverrips> Hiyee - Quick question:  I did an apt-get network-manager-gnome on my xubuntu installation, and nm-applet works great, but loads twice when I startup the xsession ... where do I go to remove the second one?
[03:36] <Snowfairy> polpak, I hate to bug you directly :) but, you're usually so very helpful.   You know of any bandwidth monitoring tools that will keep track of used bandwidth even across reboots?  I don't even need speed monitoring just the total bandwidth used.  (I have a 5gb monthly cap)
[03:36] <Draconicus> PTWalrus: You might want to make a note of your sudden nick change. People might try to talk to chad.
[03:36] <Draconicus> PTWalrus: I'm afraid I can't help you, though. :|
[03:36] <monkeyan> hey guys i have been trying different distros of linux and of course like the ease of use of ubuntu but i can never get hardware rendering on my ati card even after following all the instructions you guys thing you could help me out?
[03:36] <polpak> Snowfairy: hrm.. snmp is generally used for that sort of thing
[03:37] <polpak> Snowfairy: and/or mrtg
[03:37] <BIAF> Snowfairy : uk?
[03:37] <Snowfairy> thanks :)
[03:37] <MarcN> I have a dual monitor problem.  I have it working fine on warty->breezy->dapper upgraded partition (dual head works) and recently installed dapper on another partition.  Copied the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the freshly installed dapper and it sort of works.  kdm/gdm uses two displays, but when logged into gnome/kde the mouse won't move to the second monitor.  fglrx driver is installed.  Any ideas?
[03:37] <polpak> Snowfairy: but most of the counters are reset on reboots
[03:37] <Snowfairy> BIAF, No,  Canada on a wireless ISP :P  we live out in the middle of nowhere.
[03:37] <BIAF> gotya, cool
[03:37] <PTWalrus> Draconicus: I think its because the progs are trying to use an OSS mixer that doesn't work... you dont know of a config file that specifies this?
[03:38] <Snowfairy> polpak, hrm, that's frustrating... I know it's linux, but, even at that I have to reboot (minor annoyances :P) and it'll be hard to keep track of it by hand ;)
[03:38] <zhuangzi> AHHHH!!  I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper and now when I put up I just get a blank screen after it runs through the boot, I can only get to a command prompt through safemode, what happened?
[03:38] <Draconicus> PTWalrus: I don't... Installing the ALSA OSS emulation might force all OSS configs to point indirectly to ALSA, though.
[03:38] <zhuangzi> put up/boot up
[03:38] <pokkie_laptop> hello all, having a font problem with ubuntu and firefox. for some reason i cannot seem to find a place to adjust the way that courier fonts are rendered. anybody know where i could alter these settings?
[03:38] <antox> What's the default entry in "Servers to start" in "Login screen setup" on "Xserver" tab?
[03:38] <Snowfairy> the best solution I've seen so far deals with iptables, but, I didn't understand it fully and it didn't seem to work :/
[03:39] <polpak> Snowfairy: I think mrtg will work best
[03:39] <jrib> monkeyan: which instructions did you follow?
[03:39] <Warbo> Does anyone know where gnome-volume-manager (or HAL or whatever) stores it's options? I want USB drives to be accessible to all users read/write, but they seem to only be for the user logged in when they are plugged in
[03:39] <the_Kane> polpak: sorry, another question.. is the multiverse in dapper sorces.list ?
[03:39] <polpak> Snowfairy: as it should save state even across rebooting
[03:39] <polpak> Snowfairy: and even gives you nice graphs ;p
[03:39] <klet> If I when installed the nvidia drivers for my nvidia 6200 (drivers from nvidia.com), and after I have added nvidia to /etc/X11/xorg.conf AND to /etc/modules. Still have the problem that I can not start the xserver after reboot. What shall I do then? is there anythign that I should think of??? I followed the Installation howto from ubuntu wiki.
[03:39] <Snowfairy> polpak, okies, I'll read up :) thank you very much :)
[03:39] <monkeyan> i followed the instructions on ati's website
[03:39] <polpak> !tell the_Kane about repositories
[03:40] <zhuangzi> Is there anywhere brick and mortar right now where you can BUY the Dapper Drake CD?
[03:40] <polpak> the_Kane: read the message ubotu sent you
[03:40] <the_Kane> thanks
[03:40] <Warbo> klet: I know that problem never happens when using the ubuntu packages (although it used to happen to me on RedHat 9)
[03:40] <polpak> zhuangzi: probably not. But you can have them ship you the CD's if you go to the website
[03:40] <Draconicus> pokkie_laptop: Check with #firefox
[03:40] <polpak> monkeyan: you should read the ATI wiki
[03:40] <zhuangzi> I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper and now when I put up I just get a blank screen after it runs through the boot, I can only get to a command prompt through safemode, what happened?
[03:40] <polpak> !tell monkeyan about ATI
[03:41] <polpak> monkeyan: read the message ubotu sent you
[03:41] <eigenlambda> what program interprets volume key presses?
[03:41] <Arago> hi all
[03:41] <monkeyan> thanks
[03:41] <Seveas> eigenlambda, kernel and X
[03:41] <Arago> I can't hear sound by flash player ... any suggestions ?
[03:41] <Warbo> eigenlambda: I would guess Xorg itself
[03:41] <Draconicus> antox: Are you using Breezy? It sounds like it... I think the default is 2, but I don't know why you don't give Dapper a try. Are you on PPC or 64bit hardware, or something?
[03:41] <antox> Warbo: try simply changing permissions on desired mounted volume.
[03:41] <Warbo> Arago: Try closing Firefox, making sure nothing is using the soundcard, then starting Firefox again (usually works)
[03:42] <Arago> Warbo-> i'll try now
[03:42] <eigenlambda> theres a setting for what keys control volume in Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:42] <Warbo> antox: But when I unplug/replug will it keep them?
[03:43] <eigenlambda> what program takes the keypresses and does whatever to make the volume go up or down?
[03:43] <eigenlambda> its not metacity.  i've looked in gconf-editor, and havn't found anything
[03:43] <Warbo> eigenlambda: Xorg will send the keypresses to GNOME, which would map them to the volume control
[03:43] <eigenlambda> ya... where in gnome?
[03:44] <antox> Warbo: I don't know.
[03:44] <eigenlambda> ...it's supposed to display a box showing what the volume is, when i push the buttons
[03:44] <eigenlambda> but it doesnt do that.
[03:44] <eigenlambda> so im trying to fix it, but i don't even know what's broken
[03:44] <Draconicus> eigenlambda: In the "keyboard shortcuts" preferences in GNOME in system>preferences can configure this on the GNOME side.
[03:44] <Warbo> antox: I'll give it a go anyway
[03:44] <eigenlambda> ya...
[03:44] <bullrage> Hi guys. Ubuntu updated during the night to the latest 2.6 kernel (i
[03:45] <eigenlambda> but, what program is supposed to change the volume?  and what program is supposed to throw up that little box?
[03:45] <bullrage> Hi guys. Ubuntu updated during the night to the latest 2.6 kernel (i'm using the kernel release before that) and now i can't get ndiswrapper to work on the newest kernel. It dies at modprobing
[03:45] <Geev8> ok Warbo i edited the file and i saved it
[03:45] <Draconicus> X crashes when I do random things, espcially when I view certain websites (THEY DON'T CONTAIN FLASH) in Firefox or tweak some GUI settings... or run certain programs. Hell, it crashes with a lot of things. I think some vital part of X is broken or missing. Can somebody suggest something?
[03:46] <mnk> i am trying to sync my xda 2i [pocket pc]  with evolution using multisync / synce but no luck! i can't even sync evolution with backup; it just says waiting for change and when i do make a change in evo, nothing happens in the backup directory
[03:46] <Warbo> Geev8: That should sort out the floppy drive (try it) but I am still thinking about the USB drive (it is handled in a slightly different way)
[03:46] <apokryphos> Draconicus: stop gdm and then start X manually with startx, and see if you get any useful output.
[03:46] <Tommy2k4> if an installer says i must logout the session and back in does it mean i really should cos in windows its not normally important to reboot
[03:46] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Okay.
[03:46] <hola> THANKS GUYS !
[03:46] <hola> My music now works !
[03:46] <Geev8> sorry cos i delay
[03:46] <Geev8> ok
[03:46] <hola> And Gals if any !
[03:46] <eigenlambda> whered that box go??
[03:47] <Geev8> Warbo: do i need to restart my computer
[03:47] <brovold> draconicus: have you installed your video card driver? (nvidia-glx if you have nvidia, don't recall what the ati driver is called)
[03:47] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Not surprisingly, GNOME is the default WM. How can I change it to XFCE?
[03:47] <Draconicus> brovold: It's an iMac. :P
[03:47] <Geev8> Warbo: in order changes to take effect
[03:47] <Arago> Warbo-> Don't work ... No sound
[03:47] <apokryphos> Draconicus: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[03:48] <Warbo> Geev8: No, just unmount any floppy that you have mounted at the moment and remount it
[03:48] <xxyyzz> Say I type 'top' into a console on my other computer... is it possible to ssh directly into that session, and see the results of 'top' on this computer?
[03:48] <PTWalrus> Draconicus: it turned out my gstreamer config was wrong
[03:48] <yallll> Hi, ive got a problem. When i boot ubuntu it stops at "Starting hotplus subsystem" - Do anyone have any idea how to fix this or how i can disable hotplug subsystem or something - PLEASE help me...
[03:48] <brovold> draconicus: ok, i came a bit late for that piece of info :P
[03:48] <neutrinomass> Anybody with Xubuntu experiencing windows that go "under" the top panel and you can't move them about ?
[03:48] <vincenz> Hello
[03:48] <Geev8> Warbo: ok
[03:48] <vincenz> there was an update of the xorg-fglrx driver.... Now it's REALLY slow to even open up a terminal
[03:48] <apokryphos> xxyyzz: you'd have to use screen; see the man page or google on how to use it.
[03:48] <Warbo> Arago: Do you have any program open which hogs the sound card (like Audacity?)
[03:48] <Draconicus> PTWalrus: Ah! Interesting. Glad you figured it out. :)
[03:48] <PTWalrus> Draconicus: I used gconf-editor and noticed that there was an updated version installed from the update manager this morning and had to switch a key from oss to ALSA
[03:48] <asdx> hi
[03:48] <erUSUL> xxyyzz: you can use screen for that type of usage. man screen
[03:48] <PTWalrus> I figured I'd tell you in case others had that prob today
[03:48] <asdx> how i enable dhcp server to start every time ubuntu boots?
[03:49] <vincenz> is this normla?
[03:49] <xxyyzz> Oh okay, I didn't know that was possible.
[03:49] <Draconicus> PTWalrus: Congrats, and thanks. I'll keep it in mind. :)
[03:49] <xxyyzz> Thanks apokryphos & erUSUL
[03:49] <yallll> Hi, ive got a problem. When i boot ubuntu it stops at "Starting hotplus subsystem" - Do anyone have any idea how to fix this or how i can disable hotplug subsystem or something - anyone?
[03:49] <erUSUL> xxyyzz: no problem
[03:49] <asdx> fuck you
[03:50] <YukiCuss> Short temper. o_O
[03:50] <Draconicus> YukiCuss: Yeah. He's been known for that.
[03:51] <YukiCuss> Oh well, you get all kinds. O.o;
[03:51] <Hobbsee> YukiCuss: trolls like that arent welcome.
[03:51] <antox> Draconicus: I don't have neither ehough time nor experience to manage my PC (IBM compatible), so I can afford only minor changes... I've just deleted that entry and don't know whether GUI will start next time I reboot.  Can you tell, what "VT-Server-Options" values do you have?
[03:51] <YukiCuss> Hobbsee: nor would I assume so.
[03:52] <eigenlambda> there was a troll?
[03:52] <Warbo> IBM compatible? Should that be changed to Lenovo Compatible? :)
[03:52] <antox> Warbo: why?
[03:53] <Geev8> Warbo: i unmounted the re mounted my floppy but still it give the some error
[03:53] <Hobbsee> eigenlambda: yeah, he came in, swore, and left.
[03:53] <YukiCuss> antox: Lenovo ate IBM.
[03:53] <Warbo> antox: IBM sold their x86 PC business to Lenovo, and now their main chips are PowerPC (which aren't "IBM Compatible")
[03:53] <antox> YukiCuss: oops, I've stuck in past. :/
[03:53] <YukiCuss> Oh well. :)
[03:53] <Draconicus> antox: I can't tell you that because I run a newer version of GDM that has different configs. Sorry. :\
[03:54] <Draconicus> Warbo: Delicious irony. DELICIOUS. :D
[03:54] <Geev8> Warbo: "You do not have permmisions to write to this folder"
[03:54] <Warbo> Geev8: That's weird. Maybe it is to do with gnome-volume-manager or HAL. It should DEFINETLY work with the command "sudo mount /dev/fd0", but that shouldn't really be necessary...
[03:54] <Draconicus> apokryphos: "Caught signal 11.   Server aborting" is what I get now and what I've been getting in the logs. It doesn't say much.
[03:54] <antox> Draconicus: thanx anyway
[03:54] <antox> does anybody have Breezy?
[03:55] <Draconicus> antox: Hold on. Maybe my iMac with Breezy can tell me.
[03:55] <Warbo> Draconicus: Now THAT is IBM compatible :)
[03:55] <vincenz> Dear ubuntu recently upgraded the xorg-fglrx package.  Now for some reason, the creation of a window (when you open for instance a gnome-terminal) is extremely slow, and the overall response even when typing feels sluggish
[03:55] <Draconicus> Warbo: XD
[03:55] <rverrips> Hiyee - Quick question:  I did an apt-get network-manager-gnome on my xubuntu installation, and nm-applet works great, but loads twice when I startup the xsession ... where do I go to remove the second one?
[03:55] <apokryphos> Draconicus: nothing else? Could you pastebin your X log?
[03:56] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I can't. I think pastebin will crash X. :\
[03:56] <apokryphos> Draconicus: is the problem only with firefox?
[03:57] <Draconicus> Warbo: More irony. The IBM chip is being cooled by an Intel designed heatsink! I put the logic board from one iMac into an older model 'cause one had a dead analog board. The CPU didn't line up with the built-in heatsink, so I shoved my own in.
[03:57] <Draconicus> apokryphos: No.
[03:57] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Many programs crash X.
[03:57] <Hackmo> i'm also having a problem with firefox
[03:57] <Arago> warbo-> just amule and xchat-gnome and evolution
[03:57] <Draconicus> apokryphos: It's not just XFCE, either. It happens in GNOME, too.
[03:57] <Hackmo> when i try to start it it brings up the profile manager and tells me that my profile is already in use
[03:58] <Hackmo> so it wont start
[03:58] <Warbo> Draconicus: lol. Better than an old laptop which someone gave me with a custom heatsink. That was needed since the keyboard acted as a heatsink, but there was no keyboard :)
[03:58] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Also, it happens with different users, different file permissions, etc. It seems to be universal.
[03:58] <Draconicus> Warbo: Teehee.
[03:58] <apokryphos> Draconicus: are you on dapper, did you upgrade?
[03:58] <Warbo> Arago: Hmmm. Very weird. Try closing all Firefoxs, "killall esd" then starting FF again
[03:58] <leendert_> ik formateer dat hele ding anders wel, aan die tijdrovende leermomenten heb ik niks
[03:59] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I haven't upgraded. I'
[03:59] <Arago> Warbo-> ok
[03:59] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I haven't upgraded. I'm still on Breezy. I'm afraid to upgrade such a buggy Ubuntu install.
[03:59] <neutrinomass> Hackmo: Are you sure it's not in use? Try "sudo killall -9 firefox-bin"
[03:59] <bigfoot1> my firefox won't start up anymore
[03:59] <bigfoot1> pls help
[03:59] <Warbo> bigfoot1: Did you install your own or something?
[03:59] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Don't get me wrong. I've upgraded my other systems. I'm just nervous about the existing errors and the PPC factor.
[04:00] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I guess I'll take a chance and try upgrading.
[04:00] <apokryphos> Draconicus: a stable -> stable upgrade is fully supported
[04:00] <Geev8> Warbo: so do i need to logon as root or
[04:00] <apokryphos> including PPC
[04:00] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I know. I know... I'll go do it. :P
[04:00] <bigfoot1> Warbo: no
[04:00] <yallll> Hi, ive got a problem. When i boot ubuntu it stops at "Starting hotplus subsystem" - Do anyone have any idea how to fix this or how i can disable hotplug subsystem or something - anyone?
[04:00] <Draconicus> !upgrade
[04:00] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[04:00] <bigfoot1> it was working befroe i installed xubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <neutrinomass> yallll: Is this 6.06 ?
[04:01] <YukiCuss> neutrinomass: correct.
[04:01] <Warbo> Geev8: If you unmount the floppy then type into a terminal "sudo mount /dev/fd0" then it should give permission (you will find it in /media/floppy0)
[04:01] <yallll> neutrinomass: no, i dont think so.
[04:01] <yallll> why?
[04:01] <eigenlambda> what interprets the volume key shortcuts?
[04:01] <rej-> Hello
[04:01] <YukiCuss> Ohhh..
[04:01] <neutrinomass> yallll: 6.06 (dapper) doesn't use hotplug ...
[04:01] <Warbo> bigfoot1: What do you get when you type "firefox" into a terminal?
[04:01] <eigenlambda> does anyone know what interprets the volume key shortcuts?
[04:01] <YukiCuss> eigenlambda: GNOME does, I believe.
[04:01] <eigenlambda> ya...
[04:02] <yallll> neutrinomass: can you please give me the "dapper"-url? Would be kind.
[04:02] <eigenlambda> what part of gnome?
[04:02] <bigfoot1> Warbo (QFA)Talkback error: Can't initialize. /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  5626 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:02] <jrattner1> Warbo, its mozilla-firefox
[04:02] <YukiCuss> eigenlambda: passed on by acpi.
[04:02] <yallll> Will everything work then?
[04:02] <Hackmo> neutrinomass: yeah it's not in use I have already tried kill-all firefox-bin but get the same error, I tried the killall -9 command but I got the "no processess killed" result
[04:02] <YukiCuss> eigenlambda: as for which program? i'm not sure.
[04:02] <eigenlambda> passed to acpi?
[04:02] <Warbo> bigfoot1: /opt? Sounds like a custom firefox to me
[04:02] <neutrinomass> yallll: To upgrade?
[04:02] <Warbo> jrattner1: Actually it's firefox-bin
[04:02] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell yallll about upgrade
[04:02] <yallll> neutrinomass: just the 6.06 version? that one?
[04:02] <Arago> Warbo-> got it working: Noscript was setting to make sound when blocking script and grab the sound card i think
[04:02] <bigfoot1> Warbo: so maybe i shoud uninstall this custom firefox and install regular firfeox
[04:02] <YukiCuss> eigenlambda: passed from*.
[04:03] <bigfoot1> Warbo:  what do you think?
[04:03] <bigfoot1> will doing so help?
[04:03] <jrattner1> Warbo, guess it changd from breezy then
[04:03] <bigfoot1> if so, how do i remove this custom firfeox?
[04:03] <YukiCuss> eigenlambda: see /etc/acpi/
[04:03] <yallll> neutrinomass: i can download the 6.06 cdversion insted, right?
[04:03] <neutrinomass> yallll: Sorry? 6.06 has been released, it's been 2 weeks now.....
[04:03] <neutrinomass> yallll: Yes :)
[04:03] <YukiCuss> eigenlambda: files like vol{down,up}btn.sh
[04:03] <Warbo> bigfoot1: Well, not really needed, I just wanted to know if it was a custom one or not to narrow down the problem
[04:03] <yallll> okay
[04:03] <yallll> thanks, downloading
[04:03] <yallll> neutrinomass: why dont it use hotplug anymore?
[04:03] <neutrinomass> Hackmo: Go to your /home directory. "cd .mozilla/firefox" . Do an ls there. You will se your profile. cd into it and delete "lock"
[04:03] <rej-> What do i do if xdriinfo tells me, LibGL is too old? glxinfo says OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62)
[04:03] <yallll> what replaced it and what did it do?
[04:04] <Warbo> jrattner1: mozilla-firefox is a transitional package (even in breezy I think) for firefox, and the command firefox runs firefox-bin
[04:04] <bigfoot1> Warbo: i'm willing to remove it
[04:04] <neutrinomass> yallll: It has been deprecated. udev has replaced it. I'm not exactly sure how udev compares to hotplug ...
[04:04] <jrattner1> Warbo, oops my bad then
[04:04] <Warbo> bigfoot1: If you have no problem with removing it then I would go ahead and use the Ubuntu one, since that is probably more stable and any problems with it may already be known
[04:05] <yallll> neutrinomass: You know if Intel 2200B/G wireless card works by default? (Im askin you besause ur nice and helpfull)
[04:05] <neutrinomass> yallll: No idea. Let me check ...
[04:05] <yallll> thanks
[04:05] <bigfoot1> Warbo: how do i remove it?
[04:05] <Warbo> bigfoot1: Did you install a .deb package of your firefox? If so you can remove it the normal way in Synaptic
[04:05] <luk156> i download ubuntu dapper but it install lilo and hasn't the splash screen
[04:05] <eigenlambda> ok... acpi raises a key event.
[04:05] <eigenlambda> so...
[04:05] <graveson> what is the effect of : "please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR
[04:05] <bigfoot1> Warbo: i don't remember. it's been about 8 months
[04:05] <graveson> "
[04:05] <bigfoot1> sorry
[04:06] <Warbo> bigfoot1: Search in Synaptic for firefox, and if you are not sure if one of the packages is it then you can check their properties (right click) and look at installed files (look for ones in /opt)
[04:06] <neutrinomass> yallll: According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported, it works out-of-the-box. Other than that, I can't really tell :)
[04:07] <makko> in update-manager, what does it mean "the list of changes is not available yet"?
[04:07] <yallll> thanks =)
[04:07] <Hackmo> neutrinomass: thanks that sorted it
[04:07] <yallll> "out-of-the-box"? =)
[04:07] <makko> i want it to be available! what do i do?
[04:07] <neutrinomass> Hackmo: You're welcome :) Happy to help
[04:07] <gavagai> if i want to run updates daily, do I just put a script in /etc/cron.daily that says:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[04:07] <Frogzoo> gavagai: no - you enable the option in synaptic for daily updates
[04:08] <gavagai> Frogzoo, without X
[04:08] <Warbo> Does anyone know how to let Geev8 have permission to write to his floppy and USB drive? /etc/fstab doesn't apply to HAL/gnome-volume-manager/udev/whatever
[04:08] <neutrinomass> Warbo: /etc/group ?
[04:08] <Warbo> neutrinomass: ?
[04:09] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Aah. Now I just wait for several hours for all of these packages to install and then I can hope to hell that it'll run correctly. If not, I have to rip apart my entire iMac to reinstall because it has no CD-ROM drive.
[04:09] <djkoock>  how is changed the language from root?
[04:10] <Warbo> neutrinomass: Ah I see, the "let this user access xxxxxxxxxxx" in the users and groups tool yes?
[04:10] <yallll> neutrinomass: thanks alot for the help.
[04:10] <neutrinomass> Warbo: I'm in groups 'floppy' and 'plugdev' which seem related to geev8's problem ...
[04:10] <bigfoot1> Warbo: nothing in /opt. pls look at http://pastebin.com/712975
[04:10] <neutrinomass> Geev8: Try adding yourself to those groups...
[04:10] <thelastdrone> hi, im having trouble instaling ubuntu on amd64 system can any one help me ?
[04:10] <gavagai> Frogzoo, you were just saying no because you prefer GUI, you don't know about doing it in terminal?
[04:10] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having trouble with the fglrx driver after the dapper update of 65 files today. Anybody else having the same problem?
[04:12] <Warbo> bigfoot1: That is the installed files for the firefox package? It is not the custom one then. Did you get some sort of installer (".run" or ".bin" or something) or maybe even source code?
[04:12] <neutrinomass> bigfoot1: 'aptitude show firefox' . See whether it is installed. What's the problem again ?
[04:12] <djkoock>  hi, I am having trouble with all  modem speed touch thomson ... linguage
[04:12] <djkoock> help me
[04:12] <Warbo> neutrinomass: He has a custom firefox which isn't working, but doesn't know how it was installed. That package obviously isn't it since his is in /opt
[04:13] <bigfoot1> neutrinomass: my firefox won't run
[04:13] <neutrinomass> djkoock: What trouble ?
[04:13] <bigfoot1> that's the prob
[04:13] <Frogzoo> gavagai: auto installing from cron might not be ideal as sometimes you need to answer questions, so I just let the gui handle it - synaptic -> repos -> internet updates
[04:13] <neutrinomass> bigfoot1: Have you tried a new profile ?
[04:13] <bigfoot1> neutrinomass: nope
[04:13] <gavagai> Frogzoo, i see, thanks
[04:13] <bigfoot1> neutrinomass this is the error message i get when i do "firefox" in cli: (QFA)Talkback error: Can't initialize. /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  5626 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:13] <neutrinomass> bigfoot1: Do so ;) It usually does the trick. By the way, always use the repositories when installing stuff, unless its absolutely neccessary.
[04:14] <djkoock> neutrinomass I do not succeed to change linguage in Italian
[04:14] <GNAM> I've ubuntu dapper, if I install kubuntu desktop but I select to use gnome, i've kubuntu logo on startup
[04:14] <neutrinomass> djkoock: The language of what ?
[04:14] <GNAM> wow
[04:14] <djkoock> I make dpkg-reconfigure locales but it does not select the Italian language
[04:14] <bigfoot1> Warbo: yes,  i had synaptic/regular firfeox to begin with. then i think i got another firefox (because it was a newer version that wasn't in synaptic at the time of installation). I'm guessing i have 2 copies of fierfox
[04:15] <djkoock> why?
[04:15] <neutrinomass> bigfoot1: No idea, doesn't sound good though :-/
[04:15] <Frogzoo> yipes! did they just upgrade just about everything?!
[04:15] <TheMystic> heh, just most of gnome
[04:15] <Ng> no, just gnome mostly
[04:15] <Warbo> bigfoot1: Running "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin" should at least give you access to the Ubuntu firefox
[04:15] <GNAM> djkoock vieni su #ubuntu-it
[04:15] <Ng> and even then it's just a minor upgrade to 2.14.2
[04:15] <makko> in update-manager, what does it mean "the list of changes is not available yet"?
[04:15] <djkoock> ok
[04:15] <makko> I MEAN, in update-manager, what does it mean "the list of changes is not available yet"?
[04:16] <bigfoot1> neutrinomass "aptitude show firefoxx" gives me this: http://pastebin.com/712985
[04:16] <Ng> makko: that for some reason it was unable to obtain the changelog for that package
[04:16] <neutrinomass> djkoock: How is this related to the modem ?
[04:16] <makko> Ng: any idea what i can do?
[04:16] <rigonatti> does anyone familiarized with VmWare ?
[04:16] <makko> Ng: i love the changelog
[04:16] <Ng> makko: wait, or not look at the changelog
[04:16] <dionysos_> yea
[04:16] <dionysos_> rigonatti: yes
[04:16] <makko> Ng: and i want to force it somehow
[04:16] <djkoock> neutrinomass usb
[04:16] <dionysos_> it aint that hard is it? :p
[04:16] <Ng> makko: you might be able to look it up with packages.ubuntu.com
[04:17] <neutrinomass> bigfoot1: Hm..... weird. Apparently you installed firefox on top of the ubuntu firefox....
[04:17] <makko> Ng: do you think it's easy to browse the packages.ubuntu.com?
[04:17] <rigonatti> dionysos: Im trying to install the workstation 5.5 but when i run the setup get this error:  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[04:17] <bigfoot1> neutrinomass: maybe
[04:17] <nickrud> makko, you can look at changelogs by using pan, and pointing it at news.gmane.com. The dapper changes are archived there.
[04:17] <bigfoot1> neutrinomass: probably
[04:17] <bigfoot1> but it's been about 8 months so i don't remember
[04:17] <neutrinomass> djkoock: Sorry, I don't understand. You've got a USB Adsl modem and you what to change the language of what exactly?
[04:17] <cppnewbie> dionysos_, ellhnas?
[04:17] <nickrud> makko, I use that when I'm impatient also ;)
[04:17] <bigfoot1> anyways. i'm willing to start off fresh.
[04:17] <rigonatti> dionysos: even if i uncheck all options in Synaptic to complete uninstall
[04:17] <thelastdrone> heyy .... wil anyone help me ??
[04:17] <bigfoot1> remove my custom firfefox and use the firfeox in ubuntu repositiory. how do i do this?
[04:17] <dionysos_> that is strange
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> whats the command to extract a tar.gz
[04:18] <rigonatti> Tommy2k4: tar
[04:18] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: Maybe. Lots of us run Ubuntu  - keep the channel english though :)
[04:18] <dionysos_> have you checked the vmware forums
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !tell bigfoot1 about firefox1.5
[04:18] <dionysos_> how are you installing it?
[04:18] <dionysos_> apt-get?
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> with what parameters
[04:18] <makko> Ng, nickrud: but any idea why "update-manager" doesn't manage well? i mean, isn't it strange? i am very curious what the hell it needs in order to just work, you know, as in "freeware".
[04:18] <Warbo> Tommy2k4: "tar -xzf file.tar.gz"
[04:18] <cppnewbie> neutrinomass, sure will, just checking if he is cuz theres #ubuntu-gr as well :DD
[04:19] <rigonatti> dionysos: Im doing this : !vmware
[04:19] <makko> Ng, nickrud: (vs. "free software")
[04:19] <bigfoot1> Hobbsee: tell me how i can remove the custom firefox i instnalled .   8-)
[04:19] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: I've popped in a couple of times and I was alone :P
[04:19] <Tommy2k4> ty
[04:19] <Hobbsee> bigfoot1: it's on the page that ubotu sent you.
[04:19] <cppnewbie> ROFL
[04:19] <cppnewbie> well if u pop up now u definetely wont be alone :PPpp
[04:19] <bigfoot1> Hobbsee: i see the "remove" section. but does that remove custom installs too?
[04:19] <disposable> do i need any non-ubuntu repositories to install XGL on 6.06? both xgl and compiz seem to be in the uni/multiverse. (the wiki.ubuntu.com howto says i do need them, but it might be outdated)
[04:19] <duck-> is there a better way to 'share' drives and directories than using Samba?
[04:19] <makko> nickrud: what do you mean by impatient, does it eventually download the list?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> bigfoot1: yes
[04:19] <nickrud> makko, the changelogs that update manager look at are kept at another server, it lags a bit, that's all
[04:20] <dionysos_> rigonatti: ?
[04:20] <dionysos_> you downloaded .tar.gz?
[04:20] <rigonatti> dionysos: Im doing this : !vmware
[04:20] <dionysos_> how? :p
[04:20] <duck-> i'm really not happy with windows shares, anyone know an alternative to samba?
[04:20] <Warbo> bigfoot1: Are there any other packages which may be the custom firefox?
[04:20] <rigonatti> I mean : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:20] <oz_> hello all\
[04:20] <duck-> hi
[04:21] <Riyonuk> Hello
[04:21] <Warbo> bigfoot1: (to check you can look in the installed files for /opt like I was saying before, if ther is no /opt then it is not your custom one)
[04:21] <NoUse> duck- not really, especially if dealing with windows
[04:21] <Riyonuk> NoUse from htd0rg?
[04:21] <oz_> can anyone tell me how to enable WPK - preshared key - to wifi in ubutu ?
[04:21] <rigonatti> dionysos_
[04:21] <Hobbsee> !tell oz_ about wpa
[04:21] <rigonatti> dionysos_ :  ?
[04:21] <Warbo> rigonatti: Waw! I rewrote that guide the other day!
[04:21] <duck-> NoUse, ugh, that stinks, browsing the network is so unpredictable and sharing the directories is so slow
[04:22] <makko> nickrud: what is pan?
[04:22] <rigonatti> Warbo:  Where ?] 
[04:22] <Warbo> rigonatti: The !vmware one
[04:22] <nickrud> makko, it's a newsreader, it's under apps-internet
[04:22] <Warbo> rigonatti: I only reformatted the page though, since I haven't used VMWare (so the instructions may be bad)
[04:22] <dionysos_> rigonatti:
[04:22] <makko> nickrud: is liferea not just as good?
[04:22] <dionysos_> did you follow that manual?
[04:22] <NoUse> Riyonuk what?
[04:23] <rigonatti> Warbo: My problem is just to unistall a previous version ... :(
[04:23] <Warbo> dionysos_: Do those instructions work?
[04:23] <rigonatti> dionysos_ any clue ?
[04:23] <krazykit> makko: liferea is nice
[04:23] <nickrud> makko, except it doesn't seem to be in the default install anymore, you'll need to install it to see gmane
[04:23] <MisterN> hi
[04:24] <rigonatti> yep ... I mean ...first of all .....I tryed to install from repositores but ...didnt work ...now im trying following the manual ..but give me a error that have another installation
[04:24] <oz_> 10x for the answer
[04:24] <nickrud> makko, pan is not a feed reader, it's an nntp reader
[04:24] <Riyonuk> I so want to use ubuntu, but non of my hardware supports it
[04:24] <oz_> I got it right there is no support for WPA ?
 i got same problem here
[04:25] <makko> nickrud: btw, what is the kde equivalent for pan?
[04:25] <Riyonuk> theres has to be a list of supported harware somewhere
[04:25] <Warbo> makko: kan? (joking)
[04:25] <MrKeuner> hi, I have ati m300 graphics card in my laptop. Which driver do I have to use for 3d accel?
[04:25] <duck-> oz_, hmmm, mine has support for WPA
[04:25] <makko> Warbo: lol
[04:25] <YukiCuss> Riyonuk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:25] <nickrud> makko, hm, I have no clue
 i cant run installation cause my videocard is not suported by the drivers ... or soemthing lol
[04:25] <rigonatti> dionysos_ yep ... I mean ...first of all .....I tryed to install from repositores but ...didnt work ...now im trying following the manual ..but give me a error that have another installation
[04:25] <makko> nickrud: kmail?
[04:26] <oz_> duck_ I use D-link DWL-650+
[04:26] <Riyonuk> that sucks, i can install its just nothing works like my wifi card and well no thats about al
[04:26] <duck-> oz_, oh, ok
[04:26] <oz_> is it supported ?
[04:26] <Kibou> is there a chance we'll see xorg 7.1 in dapper?
[04:26] <duck-> oz_, i don't know, sorry.  i don't use ubuntu for a desktop anyways though
[04:27] <nickrud> makko, knte is a newsreader
[04:27] <makko> nickrud: thank you
[04:27] <oz_> well I will keep reading the guides 10x anyway
[04:27] <nickrud> makko, erm wrong finger placement, it's knode
[04:27] <antox> Warbo: are you still interested in mounting?
[04:27] <duck-> oz_, i know WPA support is excellent in SuSE 10.1, but there are other issues.  So if all else fails, maybe a try of that would be in order
[04:28] <duck-> oz_, dapper is a fine distro IMO though
[04:28] <bigfoot1> guys, my opera lost your text
[04:28] <void^> Kibou: binary drivers don't even support it yet
[04:28] <Kibou> I want it for the radeon driver though
[04:28] <Warbo> antox: It was mainly for Geev8, but I was also slightly interested for my Dad's computer (I am the only user on mine, and I use the mount command mostly)
[04:28] <Kibou> as the current radeon driver is rather buggy
[04:29] <Warbo> bigfoot1: The package "firefox" obviously isn't your custom one (since it's files are in /usr and stuff) so see if there is any other package you have installed which may be it (it's installed files would show /opt)
[04:30] <mortal5> hey guys, I need to know how to start my remote desktop server on ubuntu, over ssh
[04:30] <mortal5> or rather, I'm currently logged in via ssh
[04:30] <nickrud> Kibou, I'd guess we won't see 7.1 in dapper until sometime after it's stable in edgy
[04:30] <duck-> mortal5, I think the wiki covers something like that for forwarding x over ssh in breezy
[04:30] <Riyonuk> how can i contribute to ubuntu in terms of idea or art?
[04:30] <dionysos_> mortal5:  vncserver
[04:30] <duck-> mortal5, maybe checking out that would be in order
[04:31] <mortal5> brb
[04:31] <subtlerobot> hello
[04:31] <mortal5> forgot to start screen
[04:31] <Kibou> nickrud: which means what exactly? I probably have to wait for edgy?
[04:31] <subtlerobot> can anyone in here help me with something?
[04:31] <Warbo> nickrud: There would not really be a major update like that once Edgy is out would there? (5 year support yes, but that kind of support would need VERY stable stuff which you would not want to change halfway through)
[04:31] <duck-> subtlerobot, just ask
[04:31] <subtlerobot> ^_^
[04:31] <makko> nickrud: do i need to have an email address in order to add news.gmane.com?
[04:31] <subtlerobot> well, i want to install the latest version of ubuntu
[04:31] <nickrud> makko, no
[04:31] <Warbo> dionysos_: just asking, is that VMWare guide accurate? (the Wiki one)
[04:31] <Kibou> well.. the radeon driver in the current xorg isn't too stable
[04:32] <nickrud> Warbo, I should have added, if then :)
[04:32] <subtlerobot> but the resolution is too low to see the whole installer
[04:32] <subtlerobot> from the livecd boot up
[04:32] <subtlerobot> is there a way to just install it with the old debian gui
[04:32] <thelastdrone> well atleast u get installation i get squares
[04:32] <nickrud> Riyonuk, the art team can be reached thru https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam
[04:32] <subtlerobot> heh
[04:33] <duck-> subtlerobot, you can change the resolution using Ctrl+Alt++ or Ctrl+Alt+-
[04:33] <subtlerobot> well thats the thing
[04:33] <thelastdrone> f4 from what i saw
[04:33] <subtlerobot> i can't change resolution
[04:33] <duck-> subtlerobot, if that doesn't work then you'll need to get the text-installer
[04:33] <NChief> after upgrading to ubuntu 6.06, I'm not able to log on :/
[04:33] <subtlerobot> is that a seperate iso?
[04:33] <Warbo> Riyonuk: You can put ideas into the Wiki as specifications. You may want to dicuss your ideas in the forums first though
[04:33] <duck-> yep, it's called the 'Alternative'
[04:33] <Riyonuk> wait..what
[04:34] <NChief> I upgraded with synapic
[04:34] <duck-> well, last time I looked it was
[04:34] <nickrud> Riyonuk, looking at that page, there's also #ubuntu-artwork
[04:34] <bigfoot1> can you re-paste what you wrotehttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash. now what should i do?
[04:34] <Riyonuk> I just want to do art
[04:34] <subtlerobot> alright
[04:34] <duck-> !alternative
[04:34] <ubotu> well, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:34] <thelastdrone> ok how cna i use ubuntu when my vga is not suported by the drivers ?
[04:34] <subtlerobot> thanks a lot, duck-
[04:34] <subtlerobot> i'll try it out
[04:34] <duck-> subtlerobot, glad I can help
[04:34] <duck-> !dapper
[04:34] <ubotu> I guess dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[04:34] <bigfoot1> disregard my last message eveyrbody
[04:34] <duck-> !download
[04:34] <ubotu> I heard download is get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[04:34] <bigfoot1> wrong forum
[04:34] <Warbo> Riyonuk: Look in the Wiki then for the art team
[04:35] <Riyonuk> im trying to find it, very unorganized
[04:35] <rraajj> Hello! This is a bit weird. Every time my Gnome session starts, it automatically starts Gaim, XMMS, and 1 window of Nautilus, even though I close everything before I shut down.
[04:36] <nickrud> Riyonuk, look up, I gave you the wiki page
[04:36] <Luke> lawl
[04:36] <krazykit> rraajj: next time you close everything, check the "save session" box again.
[04:36] <Ng> rraajj: try System->Preferences->Session and tick the "automatically save changes on logout", then log out
[04:36] <duck-> rraajj, do what krazykit said
[04:36] <b14ck> where is the Gaim directory because i can't integrate some plugins in it
[04:36] <b14ck> i can't find it in ~/.gaim/plugins
[04:36] <Warbo> b14ck: /usr/lib/gaim and /usr/share/gaim
[04:37] <Ng> krazykit: the dapper logout dialog doesn't have that tickbox
[04:37] <rraajj> Okay. Thanks!
[04:37] <b14ck> Warbo:  thanx
[04:37] <duck-> b14ck, sudo find / -iname '*gaim*' | less
[04:37] <duck-> or not
[04:37] <nickrud> gnome-session-save in a terminal works also
[04:37] <NChief> after upgrading to ubuntu 6.06, I'm not able to log on :/ I upgraded with synapic
[04:37] <b14ck> duck-: thanx
[04:37] <nzx> hi, the new 2.6.15.25-*86, dont boot if u have a sata hard disk
[04:37] <EmxBA> any help? I've just installed aiglx, everything works except resolution
[04:37] <Ng> nzx: the k8 version boots off my sata disk
[04:37] <duck-> NChief, press Ctrl+Alt+F2
[04:37] <neoxan__> ive just installed dapper!
[04:38] <neoxan__> nothing works
[04:38] <duck-> NChief, see if you can login that way
[04:38] <neoxan__> :(
[04:38] <cppnewbie> neoxan__, ROFL
[04:38] <cppnewbie> weird
[04:38] <NChief> duck-: ok, thx
[04:38] <nzx> Ng, i'm trying to boot 386 and 686
[04:38] <duck> np
[04:38] <EmxBA> i only get 640x480..here is mine xorg.conf is on http://pastebin.com/713010
[04:38] <FreeNet> im having trouble getting gtk2 themes installed
[04:38] <Warbo> nzx: I boot from a USB drive and had to make a custom boot CD for it
[04:38] <EmxBA> on ubuntu-xgl i got no help :(
[04:38] <EmxBA> anyone?
[04:38] <FreeNet> Im told to download the .tar.gz, extract it, and drag/drop the folder into the themees manager window, but when I do I get invalid file format
[04:38] <EmxBA> nzx: are you the one i think you are?
[04:38] <krazykit> EmxBA: you have to be REALLY patient on that channel.
[04:39] <Zyclop> what is the command to open the cd-tray?
[04:39] <nzx> FreeNet, extract them to /home/<user dir>/.themes
[04:39] <Warbo> nzx: Do you want the Wiki page I wrote (you would need to put SATA modules instead of USB ones, but the rest should apply)
[04:39] <nzx> EmxBA, i'm not sure
[04:39] <FreeNet> nzx says that dir doesnt exist
[04:39] <EmxBA> krazykit:i was there more than half an hour! and i got no help, everyone is idle and just one user helped me :) not a lot
[04:39] <nzx> Warbo, yes please
[04:39] <nzx> FreeNet, which dir ?
[04:39] <krazykit> EmxBA: really really really patient ;-)
[04:40] <FreeNet> nzx, /home/justin/.hemes
[04:40] <nzx> FreeNet, its .themes
[04:40] <MistaED> hey is it painless to get my mouse to be detected as /dev/input/logitech or something? i had to change it from /dev/input/mice to mouse0 for my tablet to work properly, and it keeps changing from 0 to 1 everytime i turn the pc on....
[04:40] <EmxBA> krazykit:ok, but that user told me that i should try here...
[04:40] <Warbo> nzx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB (I don't know which modules you should use though)
[04:40] <EmxBA> please help
[04:40] <FreeNet> nzx, that is what I meant, I had a typo
[04:40] <duck-> EmxBA, XGL still isn't in final, so expect weird things to happen.  X will try each resolution starting with the one on the left until it finds one that works.  In all likelihood the other two failed, meaning your card isn't setup properly or it isn't supported
[04:40] <krazykit> MistaED: you'd need to write a udev rule for it.
[04:40] <nzx> Warbo, i'm not trying to boot of a usb stick
[04:41] <nzx> FreeNet, its safe for you to make that dir
[04:41] <rraajj> *checks the Sessions window* Oh yeah, I already checked the save sessions box...
[04:41] <Riyonuk> can we just buy a pc just for ubuntu with it installed and sound etc.
[04:41] <MistaED> krazykit: sounds like fun... :/
[04:41] <EmxBA> duck-: just look at my xorg.conf (http://pastebin.com/713010) for anything bad
[04:41] <Warbo> nzx: I know, but the guide describes making a boot CD which contains any modules you may need to boot another device (I use it for USB, you can use it for SATA)
[04:41] <rraajj> I do think this has something to do with the Reboot and Shut Down buttons missing on my log-out window.
[04:41] <void^> EmxBA: disable dpms and specify HorizSync/VerRefresh
[04:41] <EmxBA> dpms?
[04:41] <nickrud> EmxBA, you probably have to add the HorizSync & VertRefresh lines to your generic monitor section, like HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 <newline> VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 . DON'T use those values, use the ones for your monitor
[04:42] <rraajj> This is not much of a problem for me anyway, since I can shut my rig down through CLI.
[04:42] <Warbo> EmxBA: DPMS is for automatic monitor shudown/sleep (to save power)
[04:42] <EmxBA> ok, but can you fix my xorg.conf on pastebin? it is an easier way
[04:42] <rjd> is there an easy way to use wpa in dapper other than setting up wpa_supplicant
[04:42] <nzx> Warbo, i see, well i have a 2.6.15-23 kernel that boots fine, but did an update last night and i have .25 kernel now, it hangs at loading boot device stage
[04:42] <duck-> EmxBA, I don't know that much about it all, just enough to point you in the right direction.
[04:42] <EmxBA> ok
[04:42] <Tommy2k4> argentina playing awesome
[04:43] <Hobbsee> DBO: did you see?
[04:43] <duck-> EmxBA, you should look for a wiki or howto for xgl and your specific hardware
[04:43] <nickrud> EmxBA, just add those two lines to the monitor section, using your true values from your monitor handbook
[04:43] <FreeNet> seems all these themes are meta-city themes
[04:43] <DBO> Hobbsee, yes
[04:43] <EmxBA> ok
[04:43] <Warbo> nzx: Ah, then a boot CD may be a little extreme (my system doesn't support USB booting in any way, so I had to tinker until I came up with the boot CD method)
[04:43] <Hobbsee> DBO: it doesnt trigger auto rejoins :P
[04:43] <nickrud> EmxBA, otherwise, how is aiglx :)
[04:43] <DBO> Hobbsee, can I go back now?
[04:43] <no0tic> hi, I'm trying to use the scanner HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, the system recognizes it but it tells me the device is busy
[04:43] <Hobbsee> DBO: sure, you've been able to for ages
[04:44] <nzx> Warbo, cool, i'll read that guide, i'm sure it will be useful
[04:44] <DBO> Hobbsee, not according to my client
[04:44] <duck-> rjd, I gave up on WPA in dapper.  I uses SuSE 10.1 now and it works.
[04:44] <EmxBA> should i have DPMS on?
[04:44] <rjd> duck: but I like dapper
[04:44] <FreeNet> nzx, do I copy the entire folder over, or just the gtk-2.0 folder over?
[04:44] <duck-> rjd, Have you checked for howto's for it?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> DBO: try it again, you shouldnt have a rpoblem
[04:44] <nickrud> EmxBA, you could comment it out, you just have to remember to turn off your monitor
[04:44] <rjd> duck: yes.
[04:44] <DBO> Hobbsee, nope
[04:44] <void^> duck-: wpa_supplicant works equally on any distro
[04:44] <nzx> FreeNet, the entire folder
[04:45] <rjd> duck: I just want something that is easier to config
[04:45] <duck-> void^, well, SuSE has it setup and integrated from the getgo
[04:45] <duck-> void^, with graphical configuration of it, but it does work in dapper
[04:45] <duck-> void^, and I do use dapper, just not on my laptop
[04:45] <FreeNet> haha there we go, perfect
[04:46] <duck-> FreeNet, yay! ;)
[04:46] <FreeNet> now, to find an app that does custom toolbars
[04:46] <rjd> duck: what SuSE
[04:46] <duck-> anyone know a Mac-style dock for gnome?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> DBO: accept the invite
[04:46] <FreeNet> dock, that's what i'm looking for :)
[04:46] <rjd> duck: look for desklets
[04:46] <FreeNet> not like mac, but an object dock that I can download
[04:46] <duck-> rjd, another linux distribution.  Just another flavor, but it has it's share of issues as well
[04:46] <Warbo> duck-: You mean the thing on the bottom of the screen?
[04:46] <EmxBA> nickrud: i am currently on laptop
[04:46] <EmxBA> i cannot turn monitor off
[04:47] <duck-> Warbo, the little thing with the icons that scale on mouse hover
[04:47] <DBO> Hobbsee, naw, Im just messing with you =P
[04:47] <rjd> duck: I know what it is is... I was asking which one you use
[04:47] <duck-> rjd, oh, 10.1
[04:47] <Warbo> duck-: Gdesklets ("sudo apt-get install gdesklets") I use it for that
[04:47] <duck-> Warbo, oh, cool, is it pretty stable?
[04:47] <Hobbsee> DBO: bleh.
[04:47] <FreeNet> duck, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/ try that
[04:47] <ubuntu> hi there everyone, newbe here
[04:47] <duck> ok
[04:47] <duck> ok
[04:47] <duck> I get the point
[04:47] <duck-> what?
[04:47] <Frogzoo> fglrx-control doesn't see my tv out like it use to with breezy - any pointers?
[04:47] <duck-> another duck! ;)
[04:48] <duck> I'll remove 'duck' from my highlights
[04:48] <Warbo> duck-: The dock-type desklet is, but it is written in Python so it may go a little slow when the system is under strain
[04:48] <duck> :)
[04:48] <duck> it gets annoying
[04:48] <duck> :P
[04:48] <duck-> heh
[04:48] <MistaED> is gdesklets accelerated at all or does the dock chew through cpu cycles like buggery?
[04:48] <duck-> Warbo, not a problem, this puter is a beast
[04:49] <krazykit> MistaED: nope, they're not accelerated.
[04:49] <Warbo> MistaED: They can go a little slow, but I don't know how many cycles buggery takes so I cannot offer a comparison :)
[04:51] <MistaED> warbo: haha, i'm not sure on the latest buggery benchmarks either :P
[04:51] <FreeNet> well I downloaded gdesklets, but no idea how to use it, lol
[04:52] <Warbo> FreeNet: Start it from the Accessories menu then right click on the status-bar icon
[04:52] <FreeNet> ah, there we go :) Thanks
[04:52] <Warbo> FreeNet: The dock type thing is in Launchers
[04:53] <Rief> salve a tutti
[04:54] <FreeNet> Warbo, how do I get it to stay attached ?
[04:54] <titan_> ok, I got a Nvidia GeForce 6600 and I need to get good drivers so I can have some good graphics acceleration.. is there an easier way to do this than downloading the drivers from NVidia then compiling the kernel, which I have no clue how to do?
[04:55] <Warbo> FreeNet: double click to add it then single click to drop it. Middle click and drag to move it around
[04:55] <Warbo> FreeNet: You can add apps by just dragging them from the Applications menu since it uses the same type as the panel/menu/desktop isons
[04:55] <Moodles> I have a 512mb memory stick, but anything above 450mb on it is fragged.. I read I can set mem=450 on the kernel commandline.. is there anyway I can hardcode it in so only the first 450mb gets used?
[04:56] <Warbo> Moodles: Would a Flash filesystem sort this out automatically (like jffs2)?
[04:56] <loki505> can anybidy tell me how to play mp3 files in totem
[04:57] <Warbo> !mp3
[04:57] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:57] <Frogzoo> !fixxine
[04:57] <ubotu> well, fixxine is On Dapper, check you have all the necessary packages: dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libdvdcss2 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly totem-xine
[04:57] <njan> Moodles, you can repartition such that the partition is only that size..
[04:57] <njan> Moodles, and leave the rest of the space on the stick as freespace
[04:57] <Zambezi> loki505: Tried easyubuntu?
[04:57] <w-the-c> does anyone know if it is possible to get a text output of audio spectrum analysis instead of a graphical representation?  I mean I know it's possible...  cause that's what is used to create the graphics, anyone have any ideas?
[04:57] <Moodles> njan: memory stick aka RAM, not harddrive
[04:58] <LjL> Rief:
[04:58] <LjL> !it
[04:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:58] <njan> Moodles, ah. memory stick generally gets taken to mean USB-attached flash :P
[04:58] <Kiko0123> !ca
[04:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kiko0123
[04:58] <Kiko0123> !eg
[04:58] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kiko0123
[04:59] <Moodles> where can i edit the kernel commandline on loadup?
[04:59] <Geev8> hellow
[04:59] <Rief> !it
[04:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:59] <Rief> looool
[04:59] <Warbo> Moodles: In /boot/grub/menu.lst (or pressing "e" in GRUB at boot)
[04:59] <Rief> sry
[04:59] <Frogzoo> Moodles: #kopt in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:00] <Moodles> thanks
[05:00] <Frogzoo> Moodles: you then have to run 'sudo update-grub'
[05:00] <titan_> ok, I got a Nvidia GeForce 6600 and I need to get good drivers so I can have some good graphics acceleration.. is there an easier way to do this than downloading the drivers from NVidia then compiling the kernel, which I have no clue how to do?
[05:00] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know how I would go about installing unreal tournament?
[05:00] <Rief> i'm in the italian channel too
[05:00] <Warbo> !nvidia
[05:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:00] <Mastastealth> titan: all you need to do is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[05:00] <Rambo3> Cntryboy: do you have 3d acc ?
[05:00] <titan_> thanks
[05:01] <NoUse> !tell titan_ about nvidia
[05:01] <EmxBA> hi
[05:01] <Cntryboy> I installed nvidia drivers last night
[05:01] <chapium> 55 updates!?
[05:01] <EmxBA> it's me again
[05:01] <EmxBA> !xgl
[05:01] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:01] <EmxBA> !aiglx
[05:01] <ubotu> from memory, aiglx is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[05:01] <Cntryboy> but if you like to make sure they are installed correctly what is the command?
[05:01] <Rambo3> Cntryboy: just run the installer then
[05:01] <w-the-c> err...  you mean see if you have graphics acceleration?
[05:01] <NoUse> Cntryboy glxinfo | grep direct
[05:01] <Warbo> Cntryboy: To see if they are being used you can look in glxinfo
[05:01] <Cntryboy> k
[05:02] <chapium> anyone else get 55 updates?
[05:02] <chapium> ie: gnome
[05:02] <Rambo3> Cntryboy: nvidia or ati?
[05:02] <EmxBA> can anyone help me changing resolution in xgl?
[05:02] <Cntryboy> nvidida
[05:02] <Cntryboy> typo
[05:02] <Frogzoo> chapium: yep
[05:02] <EmxBA> i just get 640x480, and i have notebook
[05:02] <NoUse> chapium everyone gets the same updates :-)
[05:02] <Cntryboy> direct rendering: Yes
[05:02] <Cntryboy> thats what it says rambo3
[05:03] <chapium> just making sure I'm not getting forwarded to Edgy (yikes)
[05:03] <EmxBA> anyone?
[05:03] <Frogzoo> EmxBA: mebbe try #ubuntu-xgl
[05:03] <EmxBA> ok
[05:03] <EmxBA> i was already on it , maybe i should try second time
[05:03] <rpedro> hi, just had a strange crash when using nautilus, are a there some files I could look at in order to see what caused it?
[05:03] <Rambo3> Cntryboy: ok run the installer then
[05:03] <Cntryboy> rambo3 did ya see what I wrote?
[05:04] <Cntryboy> wheres the installer at?
[05:04] <Rambo3> you cd ?
[05:04] <Cntryboy> at unrealt homepage?
[05:05] <loki505> how come it says command not found or whatever in terminal when i type copy and paist the command from the patent wiki
[05:05] <Cntryboy> cd?
[05:05] <Geev8> h
[05:05] <NoUse> loki505 what command are you trying to paste?
[05:05] <Geev8> please am looking for help
[05:06] <loki505> im tryin to paste a command to get mp3 to work in totem
[05:06] <Zambezi> I installed mIRC with wine. I runned sudo apt-get remove wine --purge. Is mIRC also erased now? Cause that's what I want.
[05:06] <NoUse> !helpme
[05:06] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[05:06] <Rambo3> Cntryboy: search google , there are alot of those and remoced after ut released some source code
[05:06] <Geev8> i cant format my floppy or move data to floppy
[05:06] <NoUse> loki505 send the link to the wiki you are looking at
[05:06] <loki505> ok
[05:06] <Frogzoo> Zambezi: nope - remove ~/.wine as well
[05:06] <Cntryboy> so you don't know the site for it?
[05:07] <loki505> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:07] <Cntryboy> googling takes me forever since im on dialup at 2.1KB
[05:07] <Riyonuk> me too
[05:07] <Rambo3> Zambezi: sudo rm -rf /home/$(whoami)/.wine
[05:07] <loki505> i was trying to get mp3 to play in totem
[05:07] <NoUse> loki505 what exactly are you pasting into the console?
[05:07] <Frogzoo> !tell loki505 about fixxine
[05:07] <Zambezi> Frogzoo, Rambo3: It's pretty good that it doesn't erase everything with the first commando.
[05:08] <gavagai> be careful with that command, you hit enter at the wrong point and you can remove you entire home!
[05:08] <Rambo3> Zambezi: what?
[05:08] <eigenlambda> Rambo3: don't you mean ~/.wine ?
[05:08] <pettman> what's up with this massive update?
[05:08] <Rambo3> eigenlambda: same thing
[05:08] <blanky> Kay, start asking questions guys!
[05:08] <Zambezi> Rambo3: Is it your command or Frogzoos?
[05:08] <gavagai> you should have the '-rf' at the end.  what happens if you hit enter after typing rm -rf /home/$(whoami) ?
[05:09] <pettman> the update-manager had 61 MiBs of .debs to download
[05:09] <blanky> it's called, an 'update'
[05:09] <eigenlambda> well, maybe he changed his home directory to /$GayHomeRoot/$(whoami)
[05:09] <titan_> how do I find out what kernel I am running?
[05:09] <blanky> titan_, uname -r
[05:09] <blanky> i think
[05:09] <Zambezi> Rambo3: I'm not sure how I should right.
[05:09] <antox> does anybody have Breezy Badger running?
[05:09] <titan_> blanky, it worked, thanks
[05:09] <nidev> wHATEVER30, hi
[05:10] <blanky> titan_, np
[05:10] <FreeNet> damn this gdesklets seems very bugg
[05:10] <eigenlambda> doesnt r00t have a home directory in /var or something?
[05:10] <FreeNet> buggy*
[05:10] <blanky> eigenlambda, eh?
[05:10] <Ng> eigenlambda: /root/ but you shouldn't generally be logged on as root
[05:10] <wHATEVER30> nidev, hi :D
[05:10] <blanky> haha FreeNet
[05:10] <pettman> blanky, yea, but why? new version of gnome out or some major security hole?
[05:10] <nidev> FreeNet, why don't you use adesklets?
[05:10] <FreeNet> transparancies don't work or anything
[05:10] <nidev> wHATEVER30, glad to meet you :)
[05:10] <blanky> pettman, probably just a whole bunch of packages were finshed being updated all at once, coincidentally
[05:10] <pettman> blanky, I see
[05:10] <wHATEVER30> nidev, roger~
[05:11] <FreeNet> nidev, not sure what adesklets is
[05:11] <Rambo3> eigenlambda: no and no wine in root  , and stop correcting falsle
[05:11] <nidev> um. I've been used it...
[05:11] <blanky> nidev, good job
[05:11] <NegativeSpace> How  can I add stuff to the environment variables?
[05:12] <Some_Person> Is there a free alternative to Linuxant HSF Modem Driver? I don't think I should have to pay for a modem I already own!
[05:12] <skydragon38_> can anyone tell me how to connect to a network with my wireless card that does not have a WEP
[05:12] <nidev> It is very light.
[05:12] <makko> nickrud: it says connection to news.gmane.com on port 119 failed
[05:12] <makko> nickrud: no such file or directory
[05:12] <eigenlambda> that's falsly, not falsle
[05:12] <blanky> comon how come theres 900 people here and no one's asking questions
[05:12] <eigenlambda> ^_^
[05:13] <Cntryboy_> back, dumb ass dialup
[05:13] <Cntryboy_> is this where id go for UT, http://openut.sourceforge.net/
[05:13] <NegativeSpace> How  can I add stuff to the environment variables?
[05:13] <Some_Person> My dialup is good, but my damn modem driver caps everything at 14.4kbps (its not free, and i haven't paid)
[05:13] <eigenlambda> variable=contence
[05:14] <eigenlambda> or, PATH=foo:$PATH
[05:14] <eigenlambda> &c
[05:14] <Cntryboy_> what modem do you have some_person?
[05:14] <Some_Person> Is there a free alternative to Linuxant HSF Modem Driver? I don't think I should have to pay for a modem I already own!
[05:14] <NegativeSpace> eigenlamda: Cheers.
[05:14] <Some_Person> I have a Conexant modem
[05:14] <Cntryboy_> my modem doesn't cap its just I can't get any speeds. Im too far in the cntry
[05:14] <NegativeSpace> eigenlambda: Cheers.
[05:14] <troy_s> Some_Person: You might want to tell your vendor that they should support open source, free software.
[05:14] <skydragon38_> can anyone tell me how to connect to a network with my wireless card if the network doesnt use a WEP?
[05:14] <Zambezi> Is it possible to inactivate messages when users gets offline etc?
[05:14] <Some_Person> Conexant has no drivers for linux
[05:14] <Cntryboy_> I have a best data external, 60 bucks local. Online 16 bucks with free shipping
[05:15] <Some_Person> i found something called Linuxant, which works, but isn't free
[05:15] <Cntryboy_> I didn't need any, linux found my modem right off
[05:15] <Some_Person> not mine
[05:15] <Cntryboy_> yours serial?
[05:15] <NoUse> skydragon38_ is your wireless card supported?
[05:15] <Some_Person> no, its pci
[05:15] <jrib> Some_Person: linuxant provides debs that give you 14.4k for free and 56k for 20 bucks
[05:15] <PFA> has anyone here ever successfully used a vivitar vivicam 3815 w/ ubuntu?
[05:15] <Some_Person> i dont wanna pay 20 buks
[05:15] <skydragon38_> nouse, yes, i can connect to networks with a WEP
[05:16] <Some_Person> i found a keygen, but its a POS keygen
[05:16] <Cntryboy_> what is linuxant?
[05:16] <skydragon38_> but none without
[05:16] <cppnewbie> ROFL
[05:16] <jrib> Some_Person: I've been using 14.4k for a week trying it out and it isn't bad
[05:16] <FreeNet> how can I setup my systems default music player ?
[05:16] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone every set up a (BASIC) LDAP server before
[05:16] <makko> nickrud: it says connection to news.gmane.com on port 119 failed
[05:16] <Some_Person> try downloading 150 ubuntu updates with it
[05:16] <NoUse> skydragon38_ I've only used the network config from inside gnome
[05:16] <Cntryboy_> some_person what is http://openut.sourceforge.net/
[05:16] <Cntryboy_> grr
[05:16] <Cntryboy_> sorry
[05:16] <Cntryboy_> i mean what is linuxant
[05:16] <dionysos_> lol why are you even using such a modem!! :p
[05:16] <no0tic> Anyone can help me with an OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I'm trying to scan, it finds the scanner but continues to tell me that the device is busy
[05:17] <Spy> hey guys shift+backspace makes my gnome restart
[05:17] <MistaED> jrib: and i still run a 12 inch black and white monitor and it isn't bad.... XD
[05:17] <jrib> dionysos_: for me, it's what is on my laptop
[05:17] <Some_Person> Linuxant is modem drivers for Conexant modems (Conexant has no Linux drivers)
[05:17] <Cntryboy_> oic
[05:17] <Spy> how can i remove that shortcut so that only ctrl+alt+backspace does that
[05:17] <dionysos_> don't have cable or adsl?
[05:17] <Cntryboy_> so u have to pay 20 bucks for the nocapped version drivers? That sucks
[05:17] <Some_Person> exactly
[05:17] <Mastastealth> Spy: ou using XGL?
[05:17] <Mastastealth> *you
[05:17] <Cntryboy_> some_person speed that 20 on a modem like mine
[05:17] <Spy> yeah
[05:17] <Cntryboy_> spend
[05:17] <Some_Person> and the keyegen i found doesn't work
[05:18] <ApesMa> What does it mean when you see a white screen with an animation of a rat running in a squirrel cage made out of the Ubuntu logo?
[05:18] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone every set up a (BASIC) LDAP server before
[05:18] <NoUse> Spy they'll know how to fix that in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:18] <Cntryboy_> I did have a winmodem, so thats when I bought this one 3 days b4 I installed linux
[05:18] <NoUse> Spy but its also on the XGL howto on the wiki
[05:18] <NoUse> !tell Spy about xgl
[05:18] <Some_Person> on windows, i get speeds of 52kbps
[05:18] <Cntryboy_> nouse, what page does it explain the Unrealtournament setup?
[05:18] <Spy> oh thanks
[05:19] <Some_Person> on ubuntu, i'm stuck with 14.4kbps
[05:19] <NoUse> Cntryboy you know the wiki has a search funcion, right? :-)
[05:19] <Cntryboy_> some_person, yeah exactly not with linux.. get the modem I did for 16 bucks shipping and all
[05:19] <Cntryboy_> !unrealtournament
[05:19] <ubotu> Cntryboy_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:19] <AlexC> Hey
[05:19] <Some_Person> i'm a 12 year old
[05:19] <Cntryboy_> came up with nothing nouse
[05:20] <Some_Person> i'm not allowed to even go away from my parents outside
[05:20] <AlexC> When I install the ATI Drivers, my CPU fan or Graphics Card fan ( I think it's Graphics Card fan though ) spins up to full speed
[05:20] <NoUse> Cntryboy_ maybe there isn't a page for UT
[05:20] <ubuntu_> Hi all!
[05:20] <NoUse> Cntryboy_ you can search the forums
[05:20] <AlexC> And when I don't have the drivers installed it's at low speed, which is what i want
[05:20] <ubuntu_> Can somebody help me burn new Ubuntu 6.06 CD with Ubuntu Hoary Live-CD?
[05:20] <Cntryboy_> well i found this site.. http://openut.sourceforge.net/dload.php
[05:20] <Cntryboy_> not sure if its old or what though since ut is old
[05:20] <jrib> ubuntu_: have you downloaded the iso?
[05:20] <NoUse> ubuntu_ you can't burn a CD with a live CD unless you have two CD drives
[05:20] <yallmo> Hi, how do i install the 6.06 version? I choose "Start or install ubuntu" and it just loading the grapical.
[05:20] <ubuntu_> jrib, yes, its on harddisk i have mounted
[05:20] <ubuntu__> hi guys
[05:20] <FreeNet> I installed adesklets but cant find where it's installed
[05:20] <leafw> I just pluged in a usb mouse and it is not recognized on the fly. Which daemon should one restart?
[05:21] <ubuntu__> i have a problem
[05:21] <ubuntu_> NoUse, i have two cd burners installed
[05:21] <gnomefreak> yallmo: on the desktop click the install icon
[05:21] <yallmo> ah, thanks.
[05:21] <jrib> ubuntu, ubuntu_, ubuntu__ : mind getting new nicks? it's confusing :)
[05:21] <Some_Person> antox: i have Breezy with minor changes
[05:21] <the--dud> could someone please take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197784 ?
[05:21] <the--dud> I'd really appreciate some help on this...
[05:21] <AlexC> When I install the ATI Drivers my graphics card's fan spins up to full RPM, even when idaling - is there anyway to change this??
[05:21] <joha> better, jrib? :)
[05:21] <Almindor> I had a kernel update (nagged into it by that windows-like hint) and now I can't run vmplayer anymore (module vmmon not loaded)
[05:21] <jrattner1>  QUESTION: I want to set up LDAP so that the people in my office (Approx. 25) can all share e-mail contacts.  Is this feasible? simple? and is LDAP the right thing for the job
[05:22] <Mastastealth> !LDAP
[05:22] <ubotu> Mastastealth: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:22] <Some_Person> so, are there any free alternatives to Linuxant?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Some_Person: ndiswrapper?
[05:22] <the--dud> Almindor, you have to rebuild vmware each time you change your kernel
[05:22] <jrib> joha: can't remember if this was default on hoary, but if you open up nautilus and right click on the .iso, does it offer you the option of burning the image?
[05:22] <joha> jrib, NoUse problem is I rightclick ISO and say burn and it always says "insert writable disk" but Ive tried a dozen disks and it doesnt change
[05:22] <toxtox> Mastastealth: ,
[05:22] <Almindor> the--dud, I have it from a package...
[05:22] <Almindor> the--dud, in multiverse
[05:22] <movieman> i have been running ubuntu for a while now with no probs but i am now getting a grub error 15 any1 know how to fix this as i have data i dont want t lose
[05:22] <ompaul> ompaul
[05:22] <Some_Person> ndiswrapper isn't for modems
[05:23] <troy_s> movieman: What happened that triggered it?
[05:23] <antox> Some_Person: can you check "Lobin Screen Setup" "XServer" tab... it seems, that I have deleted something important: http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotloginscreensetup3xw.png  :(
[05:23] <NoUse> Cntryboy I'd be very surprised if that worked, it hasn't been updated in 6 years :-)
[05:23] <movieman> dont know all i have done is install vmware and rebooted
[05:23] <antox> Some_Person: "Login Screen Setup" even.
[05:23] <Some_Person> antox: ok
[05:23] <movieman> no need to reboot but did
[05:23] <Mastastealth> jrattner1: have you checked this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenLDAPServer
[05:24] <Robvdl> Simple question really, what version of Apache, PHP, MySQL, Postgres does Ubuntu 6.06 come with, I can't find that sort of info in any reviews on the net. I haven't downloaded it yet.
[05:24] <troy_s> movieman: vmware under linux?
[05:24] <jrattner1> Mastastealth, yeh ive looked over it, im just not sure if its too much for such a little set up
[05:24] <CaptNjack> Hello!
[05:24] <FreeNet> anyone here use a desklets ?
[05:24] <troy_s> FreeNet: Yes.
[05:24] <NegativeSpace> Does anyone know where the JDK is installed?
[05:24] <jrib> joha: do you have internet access on the livecd?
[05:24] <troy_s> NegativeSpace: Wiki for java.
[05:24] <FreeNet> troy_s, - after you install it, where does it install to ?
[05:24] <movieman> all i have installed is vmware and gparted
[05:24] <Some_Person> antox: you're missing an X server
[05:24] <joha> jrib, yes, that is how am chatting with you
[05:24] <troy_s> FreeNet: To launch it, click Applications->Accessories.
[05:24] <troy_s> movieman: gparted is where you probably met a blip.
[05:25] <movieman> ye i use it for dvd covers i install win to print to dvd's and covers thats it
[05:25] <antox> Some_Person: can you tell what "VT-Server-Options" values do you have?
[05:25] <movieman> never had probs b4 m8
[05:25] <jrib> joha: try install gnomebaker from universe and burning using that.  It may be that it is trying to burn using the cd burner that has your livecd.  Gnomebaker should let you choose
[05:25] <FreeNet> troy_s, That's where I thought it was at but I don't see it there. Only gdesklets that I installed earlier.
[05:25] <troy_s> movieman: Just _probably_ where it blipped.  You can't do your covers in Linny?
[05:25] <Some_Person> antox: VT:1 Server:Standard Options:(blank)
[05:25] <joha> jrib, kay will try
[05:25] <antox> Some_Person: thanx a lot!
[05:25] <troy_s> FreeNet: Oh... you mean you installed a desklet... launch gdesklets and search in the little repository window that pops up.
[05:25] <Some_Person> no, its VT:0
[05:26] <movieman> cant print to dvd's in linux
[05:26] <movieman> aint found a way yet
[05:26] <FreeNet> troy_s, no, I mean I did apt-get install adesklets and it installed it
[05:26] <troy_s> FreeNet: if you want to add a desklet, just drag and drop it.
[05:26] <FreeNet> but I have no idea where it went
[05:26] <troy_s> movieman: You mean bubblejet or laser etching?
[05:26] <movieman> inkjet
[05:26] <troy_s> movieman: As in standard printing onto a round label?
[05:26] <movieman> epson r300
[05:27] <troy_s> movieman: Well you have an epson... that is a good starting point.
[05:27] <troy_s> movieman: does it have a cd tray for printing direct?
[05:27] <movieman> yes
[05:27] <CaptNjack> I cannot upgrade my distro from breezy badger to dapper drake:-( There is always the message "could not calculate the upgrade"!
[05:27] <Some_Person> so, are there any free alternatives to Linuxant?
[05:27] <troy_s> movieman: looking.
[05:27] <movieman> k thx
[05:28] <movieman> but i need my grub fixing first m8 b4 i can print anything LOL
[05:28] <troy_s> Some_Person: ndiswrapper will wrap a crap windows driver for use under linux.  I would google to make sure there isn't an open source version available first though.
[05:28] <ompaul> CaptNjack, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop that might help do it first to a breezy setup
[05:28] <troy_s> movieman: Indeed... that grub error is googleable.
[05:28] <Mastastealth> Rob: looking at the package versions, APache 1.3.34, PHP 5.1.2, MySQL 5.0.21, and Postgre 8.1.4...
[05:28] <movieman> k thx
[05:28] <movieman> iv tryed grub install
[05:28] <movieman> grub-install
[05:29] <troy_s> movieman: You will probably need to get your grub back to the way it was... not too difficult.
[05:29] <Some_Person> grub doesnt install on my system
[05:29] <Mastastealth> !tell Some_Person about ndiswrapper
[05:29] <Robvdl> Cool, thx, all good versions what I need, bit of a shame it doesn't come with Apache 2 like my Fedora 5 did, but easily fixed
[05:29] <troy_s> movieman: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R300
[05:29] <CaptNjack> ompail: Thanx! I will try it out:-)
[05:29] <troy_s> Robvdl: For a Debian system, it isn't an issue.
[05:29] <Some_Person> i'm getting ndiswrapper from the repos
[05:30] <movieman>  For this printer basic support is available in Gimp-Print 5.0.x, fine tuning, testing, and support for printing on CDs still has to be done.
[05:30] <movieman> troy_s
[05:30] <troy_s> Some_Person: Google the heck out of your card and find the chipset, etc.  If it is a closed source proprietary chipset, send hatemail to the vendor (polite hatemail)
[05:30] <Some_Person> lol
[05:30] <movieman> so no good troy_s thx anyway :)
[05:30] <Bilange> just wondering: does anyone has sound problems with skype? (more or less like sound "clicks")
[05:30] <Some_Person> It's probably closed source
[05:31] <troy_s> movieman: Stinky!
[05:31] <jrib> Some_Person: you might have better luck with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1098046 I tried something similar and it didn't work for my modem though
[05:31] <FreeNet> lo i've installed adesklets 4 times now and it's not putting it anywhere
[05:31] <movieman> lol
[05:31] <antox> Bilange: I had
[05:31] <Some_Person> also, all i know about my modem is that it is a Conexant modem
[05:31] <troy_s> FreeNet: IIRC, adesklets work within gdesklets.
[05:31] <Bilange> antox:  had? like, did you solve it?
[05:31] <troy_s> FreeNet: It just adds on a bunch more.
[05:31] <Frogzoo> FreeNet: open the manager & add applets from there
[05:31] <Some_Person> I wish i had my old computer's PCI modem (it was a smart link)
[05:31] <Spy> Hey guys does ubuntu by default have any server services running?
[05:32] <bartmaniac> help: I can't copy files to my sandisk cruzer usb stick
[05:32] <dionysos_> spy no
[05:32] <troy_s> Some_Person: Well if it _is_ a problem, modems are darn cheap these days -- 10-15 bucks.
[05:32] <FreeNet> troy_s, - oh
[05:32] <Some_Person> i'm a twelve year old not allowed out of the house
[05:32] <Mastastealth> bartmaniac: sup?
[05:32] <dionysos_> but you can install them verry quick :)
[05:32] <antox> Bilange: go to /usr/share/skype/sound and rename or delete hangup.wav
[05:32] <Ng> Spy: none that are accessible from other machines
[05:32] <Bilange> Spy:  close to none. in fact, if someone scans himself on the net with grc.com's portscanner, theres no open ports if thats your concern
[05:32] <troy_s> Some_Person: Eek.  Not an option I guess.  Sorry.
[05:32] <bartmaniac> see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15811
[05:32] <CaptNjack> ompaul: does not work: ubuntu-desktop is the latest version!
[05:32] <Some_Person> it sucks
[05:32] <PyromaniacMoo> heyhey.  does anybody know if i can disable Enterprise Volume Manager from breezy livecd.  It keeps hanging on bootup.
[05:32] <Ng> Spy: "sudo netstat --tcp -l -p" will show you what is listening and which interfaces/ports
[05:33] <kandinski> how do I restart my sound so quake2 can use it?
[05:33] <Bilange> antox:  oh, ive done that, also installed dsp_highjacker, maybe thats a too short buffer issue in my case
[05:33] <antox> ASAP skype has an error, which makes problems, after first playing of that file..
[05:33] <Mastastealth> Pyromanic: have you tried skipping it by pressing Ctrl-C when it comes up?
[05:33] <PyromaniacMoo> yeah, it doesnt listen :P
[05:33] <Bilange> "buffer too short", even
[05:34] <PyromaniacMoo> Mastastealth: i'd expect it to be a boot option.
[05:34] <wftl> When you install from the live DVD, is the DVD automatically added as a repository?
[05:34] <wftl> Or do you have to do something extra?
[05:34] <Some_Person> Oh, this is driving me razy (and my damn c key sometimes doesn't work)
[05:35] <Bilange> wftl:  well CD's are automaticly added, I dont see why the DVDs would not be added --(but I never used them so far)
[05:35] <Spy> i have netbois listening but that is because of samba, then there are sockets  53429 and 38456 and localhost:ipp and finally  *:www  but this is because i installed apache
[05:35] <troy_s> Spy:  Consider using ssh
[05:35] <Spy> ssh is a firewall?
[05:36] <troy_s> Spy: Instead of samba.
[05:36] <keleus> Need some help with my fonts: Everything is great except that Abiword is apparently using the subpixel antialiasing method (my screen is lame and doesn't work with this) - i just want AA with full hinting.
[05:36] <Bilange> Spy:  if that helps, you may type in "lsof -i" to see what open ports you have, as well as where you are actually connecting to
[05:36] <keleus> where would i configure that?
[05:36] <keleus> im using XFCE
[05:36] <Spy> cool thanks bilange
[05:36] <blaztard> hi, i have a problem: when trying to install dapper, the machine reboots. it's the same problem when booting the i686 kernel on breezy. how can force setup to load with i386?
[05:36] <scarabatwork> can anyone tell me how to find my usb port names under dapper?
[05:37] <ompaul> CaptNjack, at least it was worth a try
[05:37] <ViRuSeD> how do you un-blacklist things? I blacklisted something that I shouldn't have.
[05:37] <MdSalih> how can i disable shift + backspace shutting down the XGL engine ?
[05:37] <Some_Person> aha! found some onexant modem driver on driverguide
[05:37] <CaptNjack> ompaul: any other idea?
[05:38] <keleus> anyone have any ideas?
[05:38] <bartmaniac> what does it mean (under dmesg) Driver'sd'needsupdating-pleaseusebus_typemethods
[05:38] <Spec> Some_Person: you're dealing with conexant modems?
[05:38] <Hackmo> anyone know of a way using terminal to fight out what distro you are using?
[05:38] <keleus> its not something configurable in abiword (gtk configuration?)
[05:39] <keleus> Hackmo, "uname -a"
[05:39] <keleus> it SHOULD be in that
[05:39] <Frogzoo> Hackmo: faq #227    lsb_release -a
[05:39] <spamm0r> DCC SEND 0123456789sexygirl
[05:39] <Frogzoo> spamm0r: twerp
[05:39] <ViRuSeD> how do you unblacklist?
[05:39] <DarthMorlock> netsplit
[05:40] <keleus> ok then, how do i work with GTK's configuration?
[05:40] <tiagoboldt> hell yeahh
[05:40] <tiagoboldt> xD
[05:40] <planetcall> keleus,  cat /proc/version
[05:40] <titan_> wow, I can not believe i just figured that out by myself....
[05:40] <keleus> well, now that everyones back
[05:40] <keleus> how do i configure GTK?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> that was not a netsplit
[05:41] <loki505> how come my screen savaver is very choppy and slow
[05:41] <antox> does anybody know, why sometimes alsa driver becomes busy even if seemingly no application should be using it? it happens while running xmms. how can I "free" it again? or what else can be done to solve it?
[05:41] <titan_> I am using irssi from terminal because my xserver will not start... I need help
[05:41] <scarabatwork> can anyone tell me how to find my usb port names under dapper?
[05:41] <Frogzoo> scarabatwork: ls /media
[05:41] <scarabatwork> thanks, Frogzoo
[05:41] <titan_> I was trying to do my NVidia graphics and was following that wiki guide... now I can not start xwindows
[05:41] <titan_> xserver*
[05:42] <loki505> hey can anybody help me
[05:42] <pennypacker> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:42] <NoUse> loki505 have you installed the drivers for your video card?
[05:42] <scarabatwork> Frogzoo: What if the only things that show up are floppyX drives?
[05:42] <titan_> pennypacker, I did that, I changed the device from nvidia to visa... still won't start xserver... same error
[05:42] <ViRuSeD> I can't get my wireless card to work - it's a Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN MiniPCI Card
[05:42] <Frogzoo> scarabatwork: you've mounted the usb?
[05:42] <ViRuSeD> can anybody help me
[05:42] <pennypacker> vesa?
[05:42] <joha> jrib, GnomeBaker installed, trying now.
[05:43] <yallmo> How do i "start" my wireless connection... i cant find ath0 in the "ifconfig" and ipw2200 module is loaded.
[05:43] <tr1gg3r> titan_: u can change from nvidia to nv
[05:43] <antox> ViRuSeD: do you have drivers?
[05:43] <titan_> pennypacker, ya, I thought that was the generic one... I must be wrong
[05:43] <pennypacker> or "nv"
[05:43] <yallmo> hmm
[05:43] <scarabatwork> Frogzoo: Its a pocket pc i'm trying to get to work with synce-serial-start
[05:43] <yallmo> What tool can i use to scan wireless networks?
[05:43] <titan_> pennypacker, so I should try chaning it to nv?
[05:43] <tr1gg3r> titan_: also u can view /var/log/Xorg.log for more info on why it wont load
[05:43] <pennypacker> yes, only if "nvidia" dont work
[05:44] <Frogzoo> scarabatwork: /dev/ttyS0  - you should however consult the wikie
[05:44] <Dark_night> how can i add another command into the terminal, I have downloaded and ran nmap
[05:44] <scarabatwork> Frogzoo: okay.. i'll try that
[05:44] <titan_> tr1gg3r, ya, but I don't even know how to view web from terminal =P
[05:44] <Dark_night> but I cant use it unless i am in the same directory as it and then doing ./nmap
[05:44] <scarabatwork> Frogzoo: thanks again
[05:44] <Frogzoo> !sync
[05:44] <ubotu> sync is probably to synce a CE-Based device, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=468064 for SmartPhones or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PocketPCHowto for Pocket PCs
[05:44] <titan_> pennypacker, ok thanks I am going to try it now
[05:44] <Frogzoo> scarabatwork: ^^ sync
[05:44] <tr1gg3r> titan_: also make sure u loaded the nvidia module lsmod look for nvidia
[05:44] <antox> Dark_night: move nmap to /usr/bin or smth...
[05:44] <pennypacker> =)
[05:45] <tr1gg3r> titan_: /var/log is on ur pc it is the log dir
[05:45] <Dark_night> ok thanks :D
[05:45] <titan_> tr1gg3r, ya I noticed that after I said that, but what is this about loading nvidia module lsmod?
[05:45] <Frogzoo> antox: default is /usr/bin for nmap (from the repos)
[05:46] <mattikoo> Hello. I have installed debian package and it runs right but I cannot use apt-get because it said about dependencies. How can I update and install with apt and keep this one package?
[05:46] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is LDAP the best solution for sharing e-mail contacts for a small office (approx. 25 people)
[05:46] <toogreen> need help - I have a laptop with the Intel GMA950 video chip.. Driver works but no 3d or direct rendering.. :(
[05:46] <Some_Person> can anyone tell me how to install http://www.int21.de/conexant/
[05:47] <davemicc> why don't change logs display in the Update Manager?
[05:47] <Some_Person> oh, damn, they dont work with kernel 2.6
[05:47] <tr1gg3r> titan_: x will fail if u have installed the nvidia module but not loaded it, from cmdline run lsmod | grep nvidia if u get output it is loaded if not do sudo modprobe nvidia
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> jrattner1: download scalix ( http://www.scalix.com )
[05:47] <NoUse> davemicc because its designed to be a simple app
[05:48] <antox> ViRuSeD: do you have any drivers for your WLAN card?
[05:48] <NoUse> davemicc changelogs would confused the hell out of mose people
[05:48] <jrattner1> fyrestrtr, is it free?
[05:48] <fgt> What tool shall i use to scan for wireless network?
[05:49] <fyrestrtr> there is a community edition that is free for 25 premium users, and there is a "raw" edition.
[05:49] <busted> DCC SEND 0123456789sexygirl
[05:49] <toogreen> fgt: try wifi-radar
[05:49] <antox> fgt: iwlist
[05:49] <tristanmike> !ops
[05:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:49] <administrador> vb
[05:49] <billybennett> how do I delete trash that I dont have permission to?
[05:49] <fyrestrtr> jrattner1: you probably need the raw edition since ubuntu is not an officially supported distro for spenix.
[05:49] <davemicc> NoUse: there is a place for them to display but it seems broken
[05:49] <Seveas> tristanmike, ?
[05:49] <Some_Person> Why doesn't Conexant have Linux drivers?
[05:49] <davemicc> NoUse: it's blank
[05:49] <jrattner1> fyrestrtr, you think its easier then LDAP?\
[05:50] <fyrestrtr> billybennett: use sudo.
[05:50] <tristanmike> Seveas: the "dcc" send
[05:50] <Some_Person> And wtf is going on with this error 104?
[05:50] <administrador> Hi
[05:50] <billybennett> I dont know the command or directory
[05:50] <ViRuSeD> antox, you there?
[05:50] <billybennett> rm -r but what directory
[05:50] <antox> ViRuSeD: yes.
[05:50] <ViRuSeD> antox: I sent you a pm
[05:50] <fyrestrtr> jrattner1: its a complete collaboration suite (email + shared calendering + native (mapi) outlook adapter + evolution support) -- so its a bit to setup, but once you get it going, the management interface is easy as pie.
[05:51] <Subhuman> whoag
[05:51] <linkd> whoa
[05:51] <Seveas> FUCK
[05:51] <linkd> thats alot of bans
[05:51] <vjt> wtf?
[05:51] <fyrestrtr> jrattner1: depending on how experienced you are with ldap, ldap can be a hassle to setup.
[05:51] <Subhuman> alotta bans lifted.
[05:51] <neoxan__> rofl
[05:51] <neoxan__> yeah
[05:51] <neoxan__> im unbanned!
[05:51] <ompaul> thats is not funny
[05:51] <apokryphos> it's gonna have to reflood :)
[05:51] <neoxan__> ;P
[05:51] <antox> ViRuSeD: haven't got anything..
[05:51] <Seveas> i meant /cs clear #ubuntu ops
[05:51] <Hobbsee> Seveas: lol!
[05:51] <NoUse> davemicc report a bug I guess\
[05:51] <Hobbsee> +m for a bit?
[05:51] <ViRuSeD> antox: resent
[05:51] <billybennett> fyrestrtr, where is trash stored?
[05:51] <Some_Person> whats up with this channel
[05:51] <jrattner1> fyrestrtr, yeh i feel you on that, i think that sounds like over kill though, ideally all i want is e-mail addreses, names and real address
[05:51] <fyrestrtr> jrattner1: also, people can't edit ldap with tools that they are familiar with (for example, Outlook can't write to ldap directories).
[05:52] <Some_Person> trash is home/.trash (hidden folder)
[05:52] <planetcall> mods are bored !
[05:52] <apokryphos> Some_Person: there was a netsplit, then evil DCC bots joining, and now the ban list was accidentally cleared
[05:52] <antox> Some_Person: .Trash - capitalized
[05:52] <Hobbsee> planetcall: haha, we've been having fun all night
[05:52] <ompaul> we are going to have fun now
[05:52] <Hobbsee> Seveas: any way to automatedly do that, or is it a manual reban?
[05:52] <mattybats> hello
[05:52] <Some_Person> here we go again
[05:52] <Hobbsee> lovely...
[05:52] <planetcall> heh i see peeps drooling
[05:52] <pennypacker> go nl!
[05:53] <MdSalih> ubuntu (6.06) wont let me login.. keeps saying password is wrong.. when i know its right :-/
[05:53] <mattybats> someone tell me the correct way to set environment variables in ubuntu?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> planetcall: no, that's the banlist being redone
[05:53] <neoxan__> nl will lose!
[05:53] <Seveas> Hobbsee, manual
[05:53] <pennypacker> noo
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> anyone keeping tabs on the game?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> Seveas: wow.  youv'e got them all, or there/s more?
[05:53] <Some_Person> problem: these bans are easy to evade
[05:53] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:53] <planetcall> heh i know.......:P viruses being invited for hunt
[05:53] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> mattybats: export NAMEOFVARIABLE=valueofvariable
[05:53] <nalioth> i'm starting to see a pattern here
[05:53] <Moodles> Seveas: you added a ]  on the end of the: *!*@k132dhcp101.mgmt.purdue.edu
[05:53] <Seveas> Hobbsee, much more 
[05:53] <Seveas> Moodles, thanks
[05:53] <pennypacker> the text is scorlling way 2 fast
[05:54] <toxtox> fyrestrtr: nl is the way to go
[05:54] <mattybats> fyrestrtr: i want to add something permanently to the path for my current user
[05:54] <Some_Person> i'm lagging beause of my non-free driver
[05:54] <the--dud> fscking crap, this font issue is annoying the bloody sanity out of me
[05:54] <ViRuSeD> antox, you getting my messages at all?
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> pennypacker: not for me its not :)
[05:54] <pennypacker> t=\
[05:54] <planetcall> I remember I used to enjoy Ascii Popups once :P
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> mattybats: ~/.bashrc <-- edit that file
[05:54] <Seveas> pennypacker, that's just temporary until I've undone the damage I did
[05:54] <mattybats> fyrestrtr: i read somewhere that that wasn't cool
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> toxtox: what's the score?
[05:54] <mattybats> fyrestrtr: not true?
[05:54] <antox> ViRuSeD: no way
[05:55] <fyrestrtr> mattybats: depends on the definition of 'not cool'.
[05:55] <neutrinomass> Seveas: Can't ubotu handle those bans automatically ?
[05:55] <toxtox> fry: argentina 6-0
[05:55] <the--dud> I'm this close to commiting a school massacre I tell you
[05:55] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: not really
[05:55] <toxtox> fyrestrtr: argentina 6-0
[05:55] <antox> ViRuSeD: aren't you getting mine too?
[05:55] <fyrestrtr> toxtox: lol nice.
[05:55] <Seveas> there, all done
[05:55] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: most of the time, the ban list doesnt get cleared
[05:55] <the--dud> I'd hate to have to reinstall because of the bloody font issue
[05:55] <Hobbsee> Seveas: well done :)
[05:55] <Guardian> are these bans forever ?
[05:55] <Astinus> Seveas: Sorry 'bout the hassle :)
[05:55] <planetcall> I am having problem with streamtuner. It is freezing when I try to search anything. Anyone else using it ?
[05:55] <pennypacker> yes 6-0
[05:55] <mattybats> fyrestrtr: that it disappears on reboot
[05:55] <toxtox> fyrestrtr: nl is startin now
[05:55] <Hobbsee> Guardian: no
[05:55] <pennypacker> !
[05:55] <ubotu> pennypacker: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:56] <pennypacker> hehe
[05:56] <Seveas> and that's what I meant to do in the first place 
[05:56] <pennypacker> ic
[05:56] <paolob-dirbasica> Hi guys! Anyone knows if schooltools is still being developed?
[05:56] <jrib> Some_Person: were you able to find full speed drivers from that site you mentioned?
[05:56] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Well, not unban people. But banning whomever tries that exploit ...
[05:56] <Some_Person> no
[05:56] <fyrestrtr> Seveas: what is that funky character at the end of your message?
[05:56] <ompaul> paolob-dirbasica, it is
[05:56] <Seveas> toxtox, fyrestrtr soccer somewhere else
[05:56] <Some_Person> theyre corrupted tar.gzs
[05:56] <Guardian> Hobbsee : what's the cycling period ?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: it was tried, too many false positives
[05:56] <ViRuSeD> Can anybody please help me with my wireless card not being recognized?
[05:56] <paolob-dirbasica> ompaul, where can I get more information about it (irc channel?)
[05:56] <Some_Person> i'm still stuck with 14.4kbps
[05:56] <the--dud> could someone please help me resolv this font issue I'm having?
[05:56] <toxtox> ViRuSeD: what card are ou using?
[05:56] <__mikem> hey, has anyone ever tried typing this into a shell, echo '[q] sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx] sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq'|dc
[05:56] <Ng> fyrestrtr: it's a japanese character that kinda looks like a smiley face
[05:56] <tr1gg3r> ViRuSeD: what card?
[05:56] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: that sucks :(
[05:57] <Hobbsee> Guardian: it's manual.  if someone's got a problem, get them to PM an op or something
[05:57] <Hobbsee> Guardian: we are reasonable people :P
[05:57] <antox> why do I get "failed to open audio output alsa 1.2.10 output plugin" ?
[05:57] <ompaul> Hobbsee, speak for yourself ;-)
[05:57] <Guardian> Hobbsee : well seveas baned my work IP yesterday when i asked explanation on the exploit. but i made the mistake to use the exploit string in my question
[05:57] <fyrestrtr> antox: more than one thing trying to access your soundcard?
[05:57] <planetcall> anyone here uses streamtuner ?
[05:57] <Guardian> Hobbsee : i tried to apologise without success ...
[05:57] <Frogzoo> Guardian: lol
[05:57] <t1tan> finally, got back in... Anyhow, I changed my xorg.log file to say "nv" for the graphics controler but I still can not get xserver to start...
[05:58] <Some_Person> The only Linux drivers I can find are Linuxant (the older free version doesnt work with the 2.6 kernel)
[05:58] <antox> fyrestrtr: but I don't know why. moreover doing "sudo xmms" is ok.
[05:58] <__mikem> Guardian, that sounds like the kind of mistake I would make
[05:58] <Guardian> Frogzoo : yeah lol :( i felt really sorry but ... the ip's still banned
[05:58] <Hobbsee> ompaul: what, there is some way that i dont know about?
[05:58] <the--dud> Guardian, was it the fork bomb thing that's so popular nowadays?
[05:58] <pennypacker> mb you must look what /var/xorg.log says
[05:58] <fyrestrtr> t1tan: you need ot change the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file (or similarly named file)
[05:58] <tr1gg3r> t1tan: u need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the new driver
[05:58] <Some_Person> everything else i found is broken links and redirected links to linuxant.com
[05:58] <ompaul> Hobbsee, calling me reasonable you should know better
[05:58] <Guardian> i wanted to ask if it was router exploit
[05:58] <Seveas> Guardian, what is your work ip?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> Guardian: yeah, i remember something abou that
[05:58] <t1tan> Ya, that's what I meant. I changed the xorg.conf to "nv" but it still won't start
[05:59] <pennypacker> cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | less
[05:59] <pennypacker> or geditr
[05:59] <ViRuSeD> toxtox: pm sent
[05:59] <Guardian> Seveas: would you please remove the *!*@mar44-1-87-90-32-28.dsl.club-internet.fr ?
[05:59] <Some_Person> and the keygen i found didn't work
[05:59] <fyrestrtr> t1tan: you have loaded the module?
[05:59] <Guardian> thank you
[05:59] <t1tan> fyrestrtr, I have no clue how to do that...
[05:59] <the--dud> %#&&%$$
[05:59] <Guardian> i tried to memo you seveas, but i did not want to hammer ...
[06:00] <planetcall> anyone wanna know why Gnome needs Women ?
[06:00] <fyrestrtr> t1tan: the instructions are at the ubuntu wiki, but iirc its just sudo lsmod nvidia
[06:00] <Guardian> and really think this channel is valuable
[06:00] <Hobbsee> planetcall: to keep all of you men in line.
[06:00] <Armagguedes> hello
[06:00] <planetcall> hehehe Hobbsee read this  http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/15/2054202&from=rss
[06:00] <antox> fyrestrtr: how do I "free" the audio card?
[06:00] <pennypacker> yes lsmod  /sbin/lsmod
[06:00] <t1tan> fyrestrtr, ok I am going to go try that.
[06:00] <Some_Person> t1tan: try the vesa driver
[06:00] <Armagguedes> how do i had a *.PFM/*.PFB font to ubunt?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> planetcall: yes, i saw it, or something similar.  i was told i should go for it
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> antox: well, you would stop whatever is trying to play sound on it I guess.
[06:01] <planetcall> Hobbsee you feline ?
[06:01] <__mikem> Hey, Hobbsee, check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15813
[06:01] <Hobbsee> planetcall: indeed
[06:01] <tr1gg3r> fyrestrtr: t1tan: modprobe nvidia to load module, however that does not need to be loaded to use the nv x driver
[06:01] <|lostbyte|> Need help with the connection :(
[06:01] <antox> fyrestrtr: the only app, I think, is xmms. restarting it doesn't help.
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> thanks tr1gg3r :)
[06:02] <Hobbsee> __mikem: hah
[06:02] <ompaul> Hobbsee, enjoy ;-)
[06:02] <tr1gg3r> np
[06:02] <ViRuSeD> I used "echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" to blacklist bcm43xx, but now I want it unblacklisted. How do you unblacklist? :(
[06:02] <__mikem> I can't figure out how that works
[06:02] <planetcall> not many ladies are in S/W development though. The article states that. You must fancy your chances
[06:02] <Hobbsee> ompaul: enjoy which?
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> antox: have you tried switching the moudule to oss in xmms ?
[06:02] <ompaul> Hobbsee, and you were wondering if switching to gnome would be worth it ;-)
[06:02] <neutrinomass> ViRuSeD: "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and remove the reference to it ...
[06:02] <Hobbsee> planetcall: i dont think i know enough coding about it...
[06:02] <Hobbsee> ompaul: haha
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> ViRuSeD: just remove it from that file
[06:02] <|lostbyte|> I have a 256kbps connection and i get downloads only somewhere close to 17 to 24 :(
[06:02] <planetcall> not many ladies opt for a computing career
[06:02] <|lostbyte|> Any idea why ?
[06:03] <somerville32> I have a bug to report
[06:03] <ViRuSeD> can't, it's read-only fyr
[06:03] <somerville32> No applications will start
[06:03] <tr1gg3r> ViRuSeD: use sudo
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> ViRuSeD: sudo gedit
[06:03] <antox> fyrestrtr: yes, oss works.
[06:03] <ompaul> somerville32, http://launchpad.net
[06:03] <__mikem> nano is better than gedit
[06:03] <ompaul> somerville32, please check it is not there already
[06:03] <Some_Person> I can't win with my modem! grr
[06:03] <somerville32> ompaul: I can't start the browser :P
[06:03] <fyrestrtr> |lostbyte|: downloading what?
[06:03] <ViRuSeD> ty neutrinomass
[06:03] <jksd> hi, somehow my windows XP entry has been removed from grubb, how do I put it back? ie. where's the conf file?
[06:04] <Some_Person> all i want is a free driver
[06:04] <|lostbyte|> to check i download googleearth..
[06:04] <tr1gg3r> jksd: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:04] <LeaChim> |lostbyte|, your connection is 256kilobits. 8 bits in a byte. your connection is 32KBps, and overhead accounts for it going down to 17to24
[06:04] <jksd> tr1gg3r: thanks :)
[06:04] <tr1gg3r> np
[06:04] <antox> fyrestrtr: alsa with hw:0,0 works too, when default "dies"...
[06:04] <t1tan> fyrestrtr, I did a sudo lsmod nvidia and it told me usage: lsmod... I must not be using the command right...
[06:04] <|lostbyte|> LeaChim, yes..
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> |lostbyte|: your download rates are actually about right for your speed.
[06:04] <tr1gg3r> t1tan: modprobe nvidia to load module, however that does not need to be loaded to use the nv x driver
[06:04] <mattybats> fyrestrtr: why is the path being set in .bash_profile?
[06:04] <|lostbyte|> fyrestrtr, huh ?
[06:05] <credo> DCC SEND 0123456789sexygirl
[06:05] <Some_Person> not again
[06:05] <somerville32> Wow
[06:05] <LeaChim> o.o
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> *sigh* here we go again
[06:05] <|lostbyte|> fyrestrtr, Not right.. hold on..
[06:05] <LeaChim> netsplit chaos! :P
[06:05] <__mikem> They STILL HAVN'T FIXED THAT
[06:05] <__mikem> ?
[06:05] <Some_Person> go to a different server, people
[06:05] <pennypacker> #title Fedora Core (2.6.15-1.2054_FC5)
[06:05] <pennypacker> #       root (hd0,0)
[06:05] <pennypacker> #       kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb
[06:05] <pennypacker> quiet
[06:05] <pennypacker> #       initrd /initrd-2.6.15-1.2054_FC5.img
[06:05] <ToHellWithGA> holla ballas.  i want to move my /home directory to a new partition.  how can i do that?
[06:05] <pennypacker> title WindowsXP
[06:05] <neutrinomass> __mikem: It's a router problem, not a freenode issue .. (AFAIK at least )
[06:05] <pennypacker>         map (hd0) (hd1)
[06:05] <pennypacker>         map (hd1) (hd0)
[06:05] <pennypacker>         rootnoverify (hd1,0)
[06:05] <Some_Person> I'm on 82.96.64.4
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ./unop
[06:06] <neutrinomass> !tell pennypacker about pastebin
[06:06] <fyrestrtr> whoooo ... floood.
[06:06] <|lostbyte|> fyrestrtr, when i plug in my adsl modem i get...
[06:06] <Some_Person> Everyone, type /server 82.96.64.4 if u were kicked off
[06:06] <|lostbyte|> Jun 16 18:56:25 blackbox kernel: [4294721.289000]  ATM dev 0: ADSL line is up (320 kb/s down | 128 kb/s up)
[06:06] <__mikem> Why d o people do that anyway, what do they have to gain
[06:06] <ompaul> pennypacker, when I think your flood has stopped (it takes a few seconds I will let you back about a min
[06:06] <ompaul> Some_Person, that is not the issue, what is the issue is buggy hardware
[06:07] <NoUse> __mikem http://j.dollan.home.bresnan.net/JMDBlog04.html
[06:07] <|lostbyte|> fyrestrtr, In MAndriva i get 33 to 35 kb/sec
[06:07] <fyrestrtr> |lostbyte|: could be the site you are downloading from. These rates are for what? torrents or something else?
[06:07] <Some_Person> that will put people on the server i'm on, which has no problems
[06:07] <NoUse> __mikem thats one reason
[06:07] <neutrinomass> |lostbyte|: At 384KB/s I get 40-41 down (max ) ...
[06:07] <neutrinomass> |lostbyte|: Um.. 384 Kbps down and 128 up that is, not KB/s
[06:07] <Some_Person> i still need a conexant modem driver thats free
[06:07] <ompaul> Some_Person, no it will not if they are on this channel, it is a matter of what port people connect to,
[06:07] <neutrinomass> Some_Person: Not a USB modem by any chance ?
[06:07] <|lostbyte|> neutrinomass, but if you conver that its more than 30 kb/sec
[06:08] <Some_Person> no
[06:08] <somerville32> Can someone help me? I'd like to be able to report this bug but I can't open anymore applications.
[06:08] <Some_Person> its a pci
[06:08] <somerville32> Oh :(
[06:08] <__mikem> I don't get it
[06:08] <|lostbyte|> fyrestrtr, i was feeling there is something with the pppd script or i am missing something..
[06:08] <ompaul> Some_Person, I think your talking about something other than what I am talking about
[06:08] <neutrinomass> Some_Person: Sorry, can't help then :(
[06:08] <jksd> what do I put under the 'root' option when adding win XP to grubb? hda2 (where it's installed)?
[06:08] <Some_Person> drivers cost $20
[06:08] <antox> Some_Person: didn't you try to check compatible drivers, e.g. by the chip used in your modem?
[06:08] <__mikem> brb I have go get dressed
[06:08] <NoUse> __mikem nevermind then
[06:09] <Some_Person> its a custom modem for emachines
[06:09] <jksd> on second thought could someone tell me the entire entry for windows XP in grub?
[06:09] <lAN^pARTY> hello everyone
[06:09] <Some_Person> the chip isn't standard
[06:09] <|lostbyte|> neutrinomass, fyrestrtr I even disabled ivp6
[06:09] <|lostbyte|> ipv6*
[06:09] <tr1gg3r> Some_Person: i doubt ull find free drivers then
[06:09] <somerville32> Can someone help me? I'd like to be able to report this bug but I can't open anymore applications.
[06:09] <Some_Person> i need an hsf conexant modem driver
[06:09] <wftl> Bilange: Just saw your reply re: the DVD. Thanks for that.
[06:09] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: help u with what ?
[06:09] <ToHellWithGA> jksd: i've had decently good luck not using grub and rather using the XP bootloader with an entry for linux
[06:09] <lAN^pARTY> problem keyboard on dapper xgl can anyone help me please my caps doesn,t work
[06:09] <cppnewbie> heeelp! im having a panic attack!
[06:09] <Draconicus> Okay. I'm angry. I just updated my Dapper installation from flight 6 to the official release packages. Now, my timed login from GDM leads to GNOME immediately prompting for password with an "Automatic Login" dialog before it loads anything else. I can't stand this. How can I make it go away?
[06:09] <Bilange> wftl:  welcome :) Oh, and nice lag ;)
[06:10] <somerville32> tr1gg3r: Maybe you could help me debug it and then I can make a useful report?
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> !tell cppnewbie about helpme
[06:10] <jksd> ToHellWithGA: I am using grub
[06:10] <__mikem> cppnewbie, I am sorry to hear that, but we don't treat panic attacks
[06:10] <wftl> Bilange: the dangers of multitasking.
[06:10] <cppnewbie> my winxp partition is lost from grub :((((((((((((
[06:10] <jksd> ToHellWithGA: I'm trying to add Win XP to grub
[06:10] <cppnewbie> __mikem, ROFL
[06:10] <__mikem> We have been getting a lot of that lately
[06:10] <tr1gg3r> jksd: u want to use the driver that xp is installed on, but note grub numbers driver slightly differently then linux kernel
[06:10] <Some_Person> thats why i use the xp bootloader
[06:10] <tr1gg3r> jksd: driver=drive
[06:10] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: what is problem
[06:11] <cppnewbie> how can i recover my windows partition boot from grub, doesnt appear on boot
[06:11] <jksd> tr1gg3r: could you tell me what the entire entry would be?
[06:11] <somerville32> tr1gg3r: No applications will launch
[06:11] <|lostbyte|> fyrestrtr, how to check if my isp supports commpression..
[06:11] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: what is output echo $PATH
[06:11] <toxtox> cppnewbie: just point it to the correct partition
[06:11] <cppnewbie> it was ok just a sec ago
[06:11] <NoUse> cppnewbie edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and you'll find an example for a Windows grub entry
[06:11] <cppnewbie> ffs
[06:11] <Draconicus> cppnewbie: If you know what the partition is, number wise, edit /etc/grub/menu.lst and add the line while using the others as examples.
[06:11] <__mikem> cppnewbie, modify the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:11] <somerville32> Path: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/game
[06:11] <Draconicus> Err..
[06:12] <Draconicus> Yeah.
[06:12] <Draconicus> Sorry.
[06:12] <Kibou> Draconicus: same here.. it's friken annoying
[06:12] <Draconicus> cppnewbie: What he said. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:12] <|lostbyte|> BRB
[06:12] <Draconicus> Kibou: Yeah. It must be possible to disable it somewhere. I want automatic login!
[06:12] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: sounds like u can launch some cmds (i.e. echo) what cant u launch ?
[06:12] <Kibou> Draconicus: yea.. I can't figure it out either though
[06:12] <__mikem> Does anyone know how to make sure a bash shell is sane
[06:12] <Centaur5> Does anybody know of a way that I can fix my headphone jack on my laptop's Intel 82801G sound card?
[06:13] <somerville32> tr1gg3r: I already have a shell open, all those text-based commands work fine.
[06:13] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: what cant u launch ?
[06:13] <nibblesmx> Draconicus: what can't you do?
[06:13] <antox> Centaur5: what's up?
[06:13] <somerville32> When I try launch beep-media-player from shell I get: BMP: Unable to open display, exiting
[06:13] <tr1gg3r> jksd: title Windows
[06:13] <Some_Person> how do i install http://www.int21.de/conexant/
[06:13] <cppnewbie> hm found it, yet, how will i know which number is the partition? o.0
[06:13] <somerville32> I'm starting to think the problem is with applications with a GUI
[06:13] <tr1gg3r> jksd: rootnoverify (hd1)
[06:13] <Frogzoo> __mikem: reset or stty sane or echo ctrl v esc c
[06:13] <lAN^pARTY> anyone using xgl on dapper
[06:13] <Draconicus> nibblesmx: I can't make the new "Automatic login" password prompt go away. Apparently the new version of GNOME is even MORE paranoid.
[06:13] <tr1gg3r> jksd: chainloader +1
[06:13] <lAN^pARTY> can help me please
[06:13] <Centaur5> antox: The internal speakers have always worked but nothing works with the mic or headphone jack...I don't care about the mic though.
[06:13] <Seveas> !xgl
[06:13] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:13] <tr1gg3r> jksd: boot
[06:14] <__mikem> Just wondering
[06:14] <NoUse> Some_Person from the page "They don't work with kernel 2.6"
[06:14] <tr1gg3r> jksd: hope that helps
[06:14] <NoUse> Some_Person == they don't work with Ubuntu
[06:14] <Some_Person> lAN^pARTY; go to #xubuntu
[06:14] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: is x running
[06:14] <cppnewbie> what does chainloader +1 do in grub?
[06:14] <Seveas> Some_Person, no, #xubuntu is for xfce
[06:14] <somerville32> Tr1gg3r: Yes
[06:14] <lAN^pARTY> some_person
[06:14] <jksd> tr1gg3r: do I change hd1 to hda2?
[06:14] <Seveas> Some_Person, #ubuntu-xgl is for xgl
[06:14] <antox> Centaur5: is it software or hardware issue?
[06:14] <somerville32> Tr1gg3r: I get his error when launching firefox from shell: (firefox-bin:14571): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:14] <Some_Person> damn
[06:14] <fyrestrtr> cppnewbie: activates the bootloader that comes with windows.
[06:14] <cppnewbie> aha
[06:14] <lAN^pARTY> my problem is caps lock no work
[06:14] <tr1gg3r> jksd: no
[06:15] <jksd> tr1gg3r: OK, thanks
[06:15] <nibblesmx> Draconicus: did you already tried enabling automatic login in the "Login Window" option under System -> Administration?
[06:15] <Some_Person> oh
[06:15] <cppnewbie> well, im not sure about if im pointing to the right hd/partition, yet i hope that i cannot do any damage if the settings arent right
[06:15] <__mikem> cppnewbie, chainloading is the process where grub transfers control of the hardware over to another bootloader
[06:15] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: are launching from shell as user that x is running as, sounds like not
[06:15] <Centaur5> antox: I believe it's a software issue because the mixer doesn't show anything other than master and pcm and I've been told that it should have other options.
[06:15] <tr1gg3r> jksd: np
[06:15] <Draconicus> nibblesmx: That has BEEN activated for months. It's the new version of GNOME that's doing this, not GDM.
[06:15] <KyoLptp`> HAH!
[06:15] <somerville32> tr1gg3r: I assure you I am - thats why it is a bug :P
[06:15] <toxtox> cppnewbie: i doubt it will be any problem ... just don't work if you point to a wrong partition
[06:15] <antox> Centaur5: try alsamixer or some other app.
[06:15] <Kibou> Draconicus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197738&highlight=automatic+login
[06:15] <cppnewbie> strangely enough, it just dissappeared from menu.lst when it was there just like 1hour ago
[06:15] <__mikem> brb
[06:15] <cppnewbie> weird stuff
[06:16] <t1tan_> fyrestrtr, I tried that "sudo lsmod nvidia" it told me "usage: lsmod" and did nothing else, I still can not start xserver
[06:16] <Seveas> cppnewbie, did you do a kernel upgrade?
[06:16] <Centaur5> antox: I searched all the forums and I've googled it but everyone complains about the opposite problem that I have and they say their internal speakers don't work but the headphones do.
[06:16] <antox> Centaur5: I use alsamixergui.
[06:16] <NoUse> t1tan_ lsmod is for listing modules
[06:16] <Seveas> cppnewbie, is so, then you messed up yourself by moving the XP entry
[06:16] <NoUse> t1tan_ modprobe nvidia to insert
[06:16] <gdb> t1tan_: That's because you use it as "lsmod" not "lsmod nvidia".
[06:16] <Seveas> if so*...
[06:16] <cppnewbie> Seveas, hm, now that u mention it, i did make an online update, mebe that came with it
[06:16] <nibblesmx> antox: make sure the mixer is showing the controls for the right device
[06:16] <Tommy2k4> in ubuntu can you not click the mouse wheel then move the mouse to scroll?
[06:16] <cppnewbie> Seveas, then again, what are my options? :\
[06:17] <t1tan_> NoUse, I did a modprobe nvidia also and I still could not start xserver... I am completely stumped.
[06:17] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: yet suprisingly no one else has that issue, u should logout restart x and try again
[06:17] <b0bby_> hi, my wireless card Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) seams to be well but I can't connect to my wireless network. What's wrong ?
[06:17] <Centaur5> antox: Nope, alsamixergui doesn't show any other options.
[06:17] <somerville32> tr1gg3r: I want to help make linux better not just ignore random bugs.
[06:17] <NoUse> t1tan_ did you follow the wiki howto for nivida?
[06:17] <Seveas> cppnewbie, readding the XP entry outside the DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST markers
[06:17] <t0rtoise_> Tommy2k4: If you mean firefox, then it's in the options
[06:17] <Centaur5> antox: I've read that there should be a headphone sensor checkbox but there isn't.
[06:17] <seanieb64> hi guys
[06:17] <nibblesmx> Centaur5: make sure the mixer is showing the controls for the right device
[06:17] <t1tan_> NoUse, Yes :( and when I rebooted it would not start xserver
[06:17] <tr1gg3r> somerville32: im not saying it is not a bug, im saying if it were i would expect more than one person to find it
[06:17] <ompaul> pennypacker, I forgot ya
[06:17] <Centaur5> nibblesmx: Yes it is
[06:17] <Draconicus> Kibou: Okay. So it's a bug. Where the hell is the fix? I just updated today!
[06:17] <cppnewbie> Seveas, wasnt that commented? cuz im afraid id deleted it long ago >.>
[06:18] <Tommy2k4> t0rtoise_: opera
[06:18] <Tommy2k4> ill look in the options anyway
[06:18] <cppnewbie> Seveas, yet, its got an example over that
[06:18] <NoUse> t1tan_ run 'grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:18] <pennypacker> heh
[06:18] <KyoLptp`> hm, is there a method for enabling/forcing vsync?
[06:18] <fl4b> Hey. I found a bug which has been reported before, but not since fixed. I don't have the programming skills to fix it myself. Who can i report this to?
[06:18] <NoUse> t1tan_ does it return anything?
[06:18] <Tommy2k4> thx i got it :)
[06:18] <ompaul> pennypacker, guess you won't paste in the channel again ;-) paste.ubuntu-nl.org is for that
[06:18] <t0rtoise_> Tommy2k4: It's because on unix middle click is customarily used to paste
[06:18] <pennypacker> is that "flooding"..i thought it might be helpful
[06:18] <cppnewbie> k brb will check if it works
[06:18] <fyrestrtr> KyoLptp`: sure, edit xorg.conf with the right values -- *wrong* values can damage your monitor, so be sure you know what you are doing.
[06:18] <t1tan_> NoUse, hold on, let me shut this down and go try
[06:18] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: ok, grub updated with the kernel update - so your edits finally got written to the mbr
[06:19] <ompaul> pennypacker, more than 2 lines buys you muting
[06:19] <somerville32> tr1gger3r: I would _never_ say that about a bug like this.
[06:19] <pennypacker> ok
[06:19] <Draconicus> Hmm..
[06:19] <Kibou> Draconicus: I'll try to downgrade gdm for now
[06:19] <ompaul> pennypacker, bookmark paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:19] <Tommy2k4> why is operas tray icon smaller than all other tray icons :|
[06:19] <Afief> the installer from the ubuntu-desktop CD has crashed twice already at exactly the same spot
[06:19] <Some_Person> CONEXANT SUCKS
[06:20] <Seveas> Some_Person, -ECAPS
[06:20] <ompaul> Some_Person, hardware choices can be important
[06:20] <rapha> Hi all!
[06:20] <KyoLptp`> bah, nevermind then
[06:20] <Draconicus> Argh. My repository says I'm using 2.14.7! D:
[06:20] <rapha> Is it possible to use a swap FILE instead of a swap PARTITION with Dapper?
[06:20] <Some_Person> it came with my otherwise-awesome computer
[06:20] <Frogzoo> rapha: it is for all linux
[06:20] <Seveas> rapha, yes, but you can't use hibernate in that case
[06:20] <Draconicus> I hate Ubuntu's lack of repository consistancies. >_<
[06:21] <ompaul> Some_Person, got a serial port? serial modems rock when it comes to comms and yes it is more hardware but they are just light and usefu
[06:21] <Discipulus> how do I determine if Ubuntu is seeing my new USB CDROM Drive?
[06:21] <t1tan> NoUse, it returned nothing
[06:21] <pennypacker> hehe i use fedora, but i assume the prinicple is the same
[06:21] <Some_Person> grr
[06:21] <ompaul> pennypacker, no it is not
[06:21] <pennypacker> no?
[06:21] <pennypacker> k
[06:22] <Frogzoo> Discipulus: plug it in & 'ls /media'
[06:22] <ompaul> pennypacker, at times we are so different it is scary, but we are genreally more useful
[06:22] <Draconicus> Kibou: I guess it's best to build the source: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/gdm/2.14.9-0ubuntu1
[06:22] <ompaul> :)
[06:22] <Discipulus> Frogzoo, alright so it isn't there now what do I do?
[06:22] <Afief> the installer from the ubuntu-desktop CD has crashed twice already at exactly the same spot, after copying and configuring all the files. anybody knows about this?
[06:22] <pennypacker> 1-0!
[06:22] <Centaur5> antox: I guess I'm out of luck?
[06:22] <pennypacker> =)
[06:22] <Seveas> pennypacker, no soccer in here
[06:22] <antox> Centaur5: I have 82801F*...
[06:23] <monkeyan> hey guys i was wondering if someone could help me get 3d support for my radeon card i tried the ati official guide with no luck then came here and i forget who it was suggested the ubuntu specific faq's but they did not work either could some one help me x wont start unless i use the vesa driver
[06:23] <t1tan> NoUse, it returned nothing
[06:23] <Seveas> monkeyan, which card?
[06:23] <Centaur5> antox: Oh, so did you have any problems?
[06:23] <pennypacker> sry
[06:23] <Discipulus> So Ubuntu doesn't detect my new cdrom drive
[06:23] <antox> Centaur5: no. none. (using Breezy)
[06:23] <Discipulus> what can I do?
[06:23] <__mikem> BE back later
[06:23] <ompaul> pennypacker, you can use the channel #ubuntu-offtopic which is there for that
[06:23] <monkeyan> ati radeon 9600xt 256mb made by visiontek but recognised as ati
[06:23] <pennypacker> ok
[06:23] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: what methods have you tried?
[06:23] <gverig> how do I list only directories? I was sure there was an option in 'ls' to filter by mask element but I can't find it :(
[06:24] <pennypacker> what is this pastebin tehn
[06:24] <Centaur5> antox: Well maybe they just don't have the driver fully completed yet then.
[06:24] <somecoolpc> any one know anything about slilo/
[06:24] <monkeyan> installing fglrx driver and setting x to use that when i do it says no matching device section for instance
[06:24] <Frogzoo> Discipulus: usb cdrom drive? do you have a cd inserted? try 'sudo mount /media/cdrom0'
[06:24] <ompaul> pennypacker, I have given you the url twice
[06:24] <t1tan> NoUse, it returned nothing
[06:24] <ompaul> !pastebin
[06:24] <pennypacker> i have i
[06:24] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:24] <pennypacker> t
[06:25] <ompaul> !enter
[06:25] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:25] <Discipulus> Frogzoo, CD is inserted and /media/cdrom0 is for the cdburner in my computer
[06:25] <antox> Centaur5: how old are those posts in forums? I'm newbie... and use to wait until some "experts" get the sollution... :(
[06:25] <t1tan> !nvidia
[06:25] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:25] <NoUse> t1tan you missed a step then
[06:26] <Afief> !crash
[06:26] <ubotu> Afief: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:26] <t1tan> r
[06:26] <toxtox> !grub
[06:26] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:26] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[06:26] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:26] <t1tan> NoUse, crap... then how do I get back into xserver and try again?
[06:26] <Draconicus> Kibou: If you're going to install the source for the new gdm, you'll need to install the perl XML parsing library thing.
[06:26] <erikh> hey folks, is there a package for the flash plugin?
[06:26] <monkeyan> any ideas?
[06:26] <NoUse> t1tan sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:26] <ziga_> can someone with an ati card, show me the xorg.conf file
[06:26] <ziga_> ?
[06:26] <Centaur5> Most of them start in February or March and I think they refer to problems they already fixed cause the bug report says it was fixed.  That was the reverse error than what I have though.
[06:26] <ompaul> erikh, read the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page
[06:26] <Rendo> Question for you guys.
[06:26] <Kibou> Draconicus: I just downgraded and it works fine and I'll wait until the new version hits the repos
[06:27] <Draconicus> Kibou: Heh. I like my stuff shiny. :P
[06:27] <Kibou> :)
[06:27] <t1tan> NoUse, ok, I will go try that
[06:27] <Rendo> Trying to run the live disc on my mother in laws machine to show her Ubuntu.  It locks up after it starts loading the desktop.  She's using a Celeron, could this cause problems with 5.10?
[06:27] <ompaul> Draconicus, that is not ubuntu
[06:27] <antox> erikh: try https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[06:27] <ompaul> !timetable
[06:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[06:27] <erikh> ompaul: oh, just add the non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:28] <ompaul> Draconicus, ^^ read that to understand why yoiu should not do that
[06:28] <Toge> hello
[06:28] <MdSalih> is kaffiene available on the repositories ?
[06:28] <ompaul> !repos
[06:28] <Rendo> MdSalih: Yes.
[06:28] <jmoncayo> can somebody tell me how to convert mpeg to mpeg4 or 3gp with mencoder?
[06:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[06:28] <apokryphos> MdSalih: yes
[06:28] <ompaul> erikh, MdSalih ^^ up a couple of lines
[06:28] <Rendo> Anyone know about issues with live disc at all?
[06:28] <jmoncayo> can somebody tell me how to convert mpeg to mpeg4 or 3gp with mencoder?
[06:28] <FreeNet> now damnit. I installed adesklets and it didnt install it
[06:28] <Hhhhh> MdSalih, yes, it's also the default movie player in kubuntu
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: no, its not the celeron. How much ram does the machine have?
[06:28] <Rendo> 368
[06:29] <Rendo> It runs XP so RAM isn't an issue. :P
[06:29] <monkeyan> so can anyone help me with the 3d issues with my aticard?
[06:29] <ompaul> erikh, then its just add multiverse and universe to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:29] <Kibou> jmoncayo: #mplayer or read the mplayer docs
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> what kind of video card, and how much free space?
[06:29] <Toge> is there any method to a program only can open once? when i click on a mp3 it opens in a new program although i have opened the same program
[06:29] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr you asking me?
[06:29] <Rendo> 20gigs of free space and the vid card is an nvidia 64mb
[06:30] <antox> Toge: what programm do you use?
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: it should work fine on that machine, where exactly does it hang?
[06:30] <Toge> antox, VLC
[06:30] <erikh> ompaul: ah, thanks
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: have you already tried the official binary drivers from ati?
[06:30] <ompaul> monkeyan, read that message from ubotu that is how a friend of mind did ati
[06:30] <erikh> I found the lines in there.
[06:30] <monkeyan> yep to no avail
[06:30] <Rendo> You know when it goes to the dark screen with Ubuntu in the centre?  And it's syncing the clock, loading dependencies, all that stuff?  RIGHT after it's done all that the cursor line is in the top left and it freezes and NOTHING responds, keyboard, cd rom etc etc
[06:31] <ompaul> erikh, well when you said you did not use it as a desktop I thought you might work it out
[06:31] <mininet> Toge have you tried xmms
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: and you were sure that the official, binary ATI driver was running? How did you check it?
[06:31] <Rendo> Have to turn off the machine, I tried it twice and it did the same crap.
[06:31] <monkeyan> xorg.conf
[06:31] <monkeyan> i checked that
[06:31] <MdSalih> http://pastebin.com/713246 <-- thats my apt sources file... i still can't find kaffiene in synaptic package manager
[06:31] <monkeyan> tried radeon,  ati, and fglrx
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: mmm ... no, that's not how you check :)
[06:31] <monkeyan> oh
[06:32] <monkeyan> so how should i check?
[06:32] <Rendo> Know anything that might help fyrestrtr?
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: glxinfo or fglrxinfo
[06:32] <ToHellWithGA> how can i resize the partition mounted as / ?
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: hrmm, don't know what it could be. You are using the Dapper livecd?
[06:33] <Rendo> No, 5.10.
[06:33] <Seveas> ToHellWithGA, boot from live cd
[06:33] <Rendo> Don't have dapper cdsyet.
[06:33] <ToHellWithGA> thank you Seveas
[06:33] <ompaul> monkeyan, one test is to run chromium  if it works  correctly the right driver is there
[06:33] <erikh> ompaul: yeah, I use debian on my servers... still new to ubuntu, just using it as my desktop right now. Thanks for all the help!
[06:33] <ompaul> erikh, you said nonfree that would be multiverse
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: glxinfo | grep direct is one way to test.
[06:34] <rob_> hi
[06:34] <rob_> does anyone know of a simple graphical firewall/router app for linux that's similar to a standard router interface?
[06:34] <Rendo> My plan was to show it to my mother-in-law, explain that it does everything she needs for a PC anyways, will use less resources than windows and it's safer.
[06:34] <Rendo> rob_ firestarter
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: hrmm .. dunno what it could be, but you could try to start it without power management features.
[06:34] <Rendo> Or something like that.
[06:34] <Rendo> How so fyrestrtr?
[06:34] <rcsarver> need help upgrading to dapper. was an error and now i have broken packages (old kernel, new kernel, C libraries)
[06:35] <danfg> how do i tell apt-get to check whether all files from a package are all there?
[06:35] <MdSalih> can you run kaffiene in gnome ?
[06:35] <Rendo> danfg sudo apt-get -f install
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: I believe its acpi=off at the boot prompt, but I'm not sure (haven't had to boot from a CD in months)
[06:35] <Rendo> Hrm.
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> the boot prompt should give you a menu, and one of the F keys brings up options.
[06:35] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: itsays 'extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".'
[06:35] <fyrestrtr> also, try not to have anything plugged into the machine (ie, USB stuff).
[06:36] <Rendo> Even the mouse?
[06:36] <danfg> better yet, how do i force apt-get to reinstall a package?
[06:36] <NoUse> danfg sudo apt-get --reinstall install package
[06:36] <Rendo> The mouse is USB.
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: well no, obviously the mouse :) but things like external storage, etc.
[06:36] <Rendo> Nothing of the sort.
[06:36] <Rendo> So at the boot prompt type acpi=off?
[06:36] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: is this a desktop or a laptop?
[06:36] <Rendo> Then continue on with the regular live cd setup?
[06:36] <Rendo> Desktop
[06:37] <Draconicus> WONDER BREAD: What a wonder! It goes stale five times faster than regular bread!
[06:37] <danfg> NoUse: thanks :)
[06:37] <grayhane> can files made with impress be viewed on non Linux machines ?
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: yes, give that a try.
[06:37] <Rendo> I shall return in time if she fails.
[06:37] <ompaul> grayhane, yes if your using Open Office
[06:37] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: okay -- what driver are you using now?
[06:37] <Rendo> And if so, I shall yell at you like a Frenchman yells at the sky!
[06:38] <NoUse> grayhane you can save it as a flash file which will work in any web browser
[06:38] <ompaul> grayhane, or some program that handles that format
[06:38] <antox> what is going wrong when suspending machine with pcmcia card in?
[06:38] <grayhane> can they be exported to use with M$ Office ?
[06:38] <monkeyan> i set x to run vesa drivers since it is the only one that allows me to start x
[06:38] <Ng> grayhane: impress appears to be able to save in powerpoint format
[06:38] <ompaul> grayhane, that is not a product I know but it does something called power point
[06:38] <t1tan_> NoUse... I did the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, it made it's changes but I still can not start xserver
[06:38] <grayhane> thank you
[06:38] <rrojas> ola
[06:38] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: i set x to run vesa drivers since it is the only one that allows me to start x
[06:38] <ompaul> !es
[06:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:39] <NoUse> t1tan_ pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:39] <NoUse> !tell t1tan_ about pastebin
[06:39] <rrojas> ola
[06:39] <Kuyaedz> can someone tell me how to disable 'suspend on lid close'?
[06:39] <toxtox> !tell kuyaedz about acpi
[06:39] <Mineiro> Hi people.... does anybody know about syncing Palm Life Drive in Ubuntu?
[06:40] <t1tan_> NoUse... I am in terminal, and I am a dumb new linux user... I have no clue how to use web from command line. I know how to use pastebin however
[06:40] <sivanicon> Anyone use proftpd who could help me setup user accounts?
[06:40] <ompaul> rrojas, Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:40] <neighborlee> can't seem to find easy ubuntu url on forums, so Im wondering where its hiding ? ;)
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: edit your xorg.conf file and change the driver line to Driver "ati"
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: save the file, and restart X
[06:41] <nickrud> neighborlee, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:41] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: then, pastebin the output of Xorg.0.log
[06:41] <sivanicon> quit
[06:41] <sivanicon> exit
[06:41] <Sapholin> Okay, thanks to the help I got here earlier I was able to activate the 3D acceleration for my ATI card. Now, when I try to start Neverwinter Nights, my LCD monitor goes blank and says Input not supported. I dunno what to do about it. Any help would be appreciated.
[06:42] <rigonatti> does anyone familiarized with Synce ?
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> Sapholin: change the resolution that NWN is using.
[06:42] <rigonatti> !synce
[06:42] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rigonatti
[06:42] <rrojas> kienes sois
[06:42] <NoUse> t1tan_ run 'grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[06:43] <wapo-xulo> oLa
[06:43] <t1tan_> NoUse, ok brb
[06:43] <neighborlee> nickrud: is it too new to be included in forum or just plain in ubuntu install ?
[06:44] <Sapholin> fyrestrtr: How do I do that? I believe the  menu is stuck in one set resolution and trying to run it in windowed mode produces no change.
[06:44] <neighborlee> nickrud: and thx for url although honestly I did just find it via google <G>
[06:44] <ompaul> o!es
[06:44] <fyrestrtr> Sapholin: are you using winex?
[06:44] <ompaul> !es
[06:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:44] <sbartleylinux> Is anyone using nagios w/ the check_dhcp plugin on Ubuntu?
[06:44] <Sapholin> fyrestrtr: No, I'm using a linux-based install and linux binaries.
[06:44] <wapo-xulo> Je suis franais
[06:45] <wapo-xulo> Vous parle franais
[06:45] <toxtox> !r
[06:45] <ubotu> from memory, r is a powerful statistical program.  sudo apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html
[06:45] <toxtox> !fr
[06:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:45] <ompaul> !fr
[06:45] <wapo-xulo> ALGUIEN HABLA
[06:46] <toxtox> !tell wapo-zulo about fr
[06:46] <fyrestrtr> Sapholin: sorry, I don't know about that then. Never played NWN, but you need to configure it so that its screen settings (refresh rate, resolution, etc.) match that which your monitor can support.
[06:46] <ompaul> toxtox, that ip has been here speaking spanish 3 mins ago
[06:47] <toxtox> ompaul: maybe i was just stoned ... just came from the kitchen
[06:47] <Sapholin> fyrestrtr: Thanks. I'll see what I can do, though honestly the config file for it has rather slim pickings. Just fullscreen and a few advanced video options such as FSAA and the like.
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> Sapholin: I would suggest the appropriate NWN forum/support chan.
[06:48] <Sapholin> fyrestrtr: Thanks, will do.
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> Sapholin: try running it with everything in the 'off' mode.
[06:48] <fyrestrtr> ie, no FSAA, windowed mode at 800x600 -- color depth 16, etc.
[06:48] <t1tan_> NoUse, it said something like this '(EE) No Device Found'
[06:49] <Sapholin> I'd do that, but it has no settings listed for resolution or color depths, etc.
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> try the man entry for the executable.
[06:49] <fyrestrtr> it probably only has the minimum required settings, and you can probably add a lot of stuff in there.
[06:49] <Sapholin> the man entry?
[06:50] <fyrestrtr> yeah, just try it. man [whatever you type to run it] 
[06:51] <Sapholin> It has one line, heh.
[06:51] <Sapholin> export SDL_MOUSE_RELATIVE=0 export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[06:51] <Rendo> fyrstrt!
[06:51] <Rendo> NOOOOOOOO
[06:51] <Rendo> We got a bit further but more issues. :P
[06:51] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Guess what! I upgraded to dapper. Took me an hour or so. X IS STILL RETARDED.
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> was that your french guy yelling at the sky impression? :P
[06:52] <pennypacker> hehe
[06:52] <BSDinux> i installed directfb and set the vga=792 flag in grub's menu.lst to get a framebuffer console, but it's really slow... any other options?
[06:52] <Rendo> Keyboard, mouse and even restart button responded this time, didn't lockup, BUT!  There was no GUI still.
[06:52] <neighborlee> anyone know if there is a hidden option somewhere in gnome xchat to visiblly see all the time the users in a channel ?? ;))
[06:52] <Rendo> I tried. :/
[06:52] <Rendo> I'm not French, I just pretend to be one online at times.
[06:52] <NoUse> t1tan_ what kind of card do you have?
[06:52] <Rendo> So.
[06:52] <apokryphos> Draconicus: please don't use that term to describe such things :)
[06:52] <Rendo> My question is this.
[06:52] <Rendo> Could an onboard video card AND a pci interfaced card cause a conflict with live?
[06:52] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: one question ... why lol
[06:52] <apokryphos> Draconicus: how did you upgrade?
[06:53] <t1tan_> NoUse, NVidia GeForce 6600
[06:53] <toxtox> Rendo: try to use the lowest resolution
[06:53] <Rendo> toxtox this is from the livecd.
[06:53] <Rendo> And btw the command was live acpi=off :P
[06:53] <toxtox> renatofilho: you can change it at bootup
[06:53] <Rendo> How so?
[06:54] <Rendo> Cause the acpi=off resolved some issues.
[06:54] <toxtox> Rendo: I can't remember now ..
[06:54] <ompaul> Rendo, please put all your words on line, so your not spreading your thoughts over 10 lines
[06:54] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: how far did you get now?
[06:54] <NoUse> t1tan_ lsmod | grep nvidia
[06:54] <NoUse> t1tan_ you can run it from inside your IRC client I think
[06:54] <Rendo> Same place, it responded to the keyboard and mouse, cd rom still didn't respond, but it was still a blank screen.
[06:54] <NoUse> t1tan_ /exec <command> works in bitchx
[06:54] <t1tan_> NoUse... how?
[06:54] <t1tan_> NoUse, ok
[06:55] <rigonatti> hi alll
[06:55] <rigonatti> Does anyone know why this happens :
[06:55] <rigonatti> rigonatti@rigonatti-desktop:~/Desktop/Wince Plugins Gnome/synce-trayicon-0.9.0$ make
[06:55] <rigonatti> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:55] <Toba> recently my ubuntu system has been going some weird things
[06:55] <t1tan_> NoUse it worked, what do you wnat to know?
[06:55] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I followed the guide !upgrade points to.
[06:55] <rigonatti> !make
[06:55] <ubotu> rigonatti: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:55] <Toba> the mouse pointer will just disappear
[06:55] <Rendo> rigonatti there's no make file yet
[06:55] <NoUse> t1tan_ what did it output?
[06:55] <apokryphos> Draconicus: which specific method?
[06:55] <Toba> and the keyboard will only partially work
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> rigonatti: try make install
[06:55] <Toba> I'm not sure why this is happening
[06:55] <ompaul> rigonatti, don't pastese inthe channel >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[06:55] <BSDinux> i installed directfb and set the vga=792 flag in grub's menu.lst to get a framebuffer console, but it's really slow... any other options?
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> BSDinux: reduce the resolution.
[06:56] <apokryphos> rigonatti: experiment with ubotu in /msg. Also, see the FAQ on compiling.
[06:56] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Modified the sources.list to point to dapper repositories, did an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[06:56] <apokryphos> Draconicus: did you make sure you had ubuntu-desktop before upgrading?
[06:56] <ompaul> BSDinux, vga=771 but what processor and what videocard and what ram is
[06:56] <rigonatti> REndo:  i got a tar file...run ./configure ....then make ..and make install ..but dont work ...inside the folder i see a makefile.am and a makefile.in
[06:56] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Everything works the way it's supposed to apart from the same error that I was experiencing before. Why are you asking me these questions?
[06:56] <BSDinux> it's a 1Ghz Duron, a 128MB nvidia and 512MB ram
[06:57] <apokryphos> Draconicus: it's in bold writing, warns of the dangers if you don't.
[06:57] <BSDinux> i'll try 771
[06:57] <t1tan_> NoUse nvidia 4553140 0 i2c_core 23168 5 "a bunch of words on the next line" agpgart 37072 3 nvidia, ali_agp, amd64_agp
[06:57] <rigonatti> ompaul :  build-essential is already installed
[06:57] <apokryphos> Draconicus: because it could be the reason you're still experiencing that error
[06:58] <YoussefAssad> hi folks
[06:58] <Sapholin> Ah-ha! I got it.
[06:58] <NoUse> t1tan_ run this 'wget http://finneran.us/pastebin' then 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | python ~/pastebin'
[06:58] <Sapholin> fyrestrtr: Do you want to know how I solved it?
[06:58] <YoussefAssad> I have a problem with aterm and mutt; look at this, the lines in the threaded display are all wrong:  http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/signingupsucks/?action=view&current=mutt.jpg
[06:58] <Ayabara> is d4x the best download manager for ubuntu?
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> Sapholin: put it on the wiki :)
[06:59] <YoussefAssad> Ayabara: I kind of prefer prozilla
[06:59] <ompaul> rigonatti, have a look at this openwince-jtag it is in the universe repo
[06:59] <YoussefAssad> though prozilla's not in the sources
[06:59] <ompaul> rigonatti, install the binary
[06:59] <Rendo> Is it possible the live CD could crap out on an onboard AND pci video card causing a conflict?
[06:59] <Ayabara> YoussefAssad: never heard of it :-) I'll check it out. what do you think is better?
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> Rendo: disable one from the bios.
[06:59] <YoussefAssad> Ayabara: prozilla is command line, mind you
[07:00] <Rendo> Hrm.
[07:00] <Mirith> Hey, does the ubuntu Live CD have built in drivers for 802.11A?
[07:00] <rigonatti> ompaul what this openwince do ?
[07:00] <Rendo> Mirith should
[07:00] <Ayabara> YoussefAssad: command line is not my cup of tea
[07:01] <Ayabara> hmm. jerks away could be misinterpreted
[07:01] <YoussefAssad> Ayabara: how difficult is proz http://address.to/file ?
[07:01] <ompaul> rigonatti, openwince-jtag - allows programming jtag capable devices such as CPUs or FPGAs and then there is openwince-include - Common include files for the open wince project
[07:01] <rigonatti> ompaul ... im a doney if I dont get it at all ? =/
[07:02] <t1tan_> NoUse, got an error on the second command python can't open file bla bla, no such file or directry, talking about the pastebin
[07:02] <Ayabara> YoussefAssad: it's not that it's difficult, I just like the gui stuff. I'll check it out though. thanks for the tip
[07:02] <t1tan_> NoUse, BRB
[07:02] <Draconicus> !upgrade
[07:02] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[07:02] <YoussefAssad> Ayabara: cheers
[07:02] <rapha> Oh damn
[07:02] <ompaul> rigonatti, don't understand you, there are pieces of software do support "openwince" that is all I am saying as for no target that is a problem with the source code you downloaded
[07:03] <rapha> Now I asked a question and went away and now it's gone from the screen :-/
[07:03] <Draconicus> apokryphos: I had xubuntu-desktop installed.
[07:03] <rapha> Maybe somebody answers again... is it possible to use a swap FILE instead of a swap PARTITION in Dapper?
[07:04] <Mirith> On a seperate note, I'm getting a weird error now whenever i run apt-get/synaptic that there is an error with "samba".  However i can access my samba serves on my file server
[07:04] <ompaul> rapha, I do not belive that it is, but the reason that attracted no answer may be that no one knows the answer, I suspect that the answer is not
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> rapha: you actually don't need a swap partition at all, but it can help with system performance.
[07:05] <NoUse> rapha https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[07:05] <rapha> fyrestrtr: I know system performance right out sucks on my computer without one. That's why I asked for whether a file was possible. I know older Linux versions (kernel 2.2.x) had that possibility...
[07:05] <oipoistar> hi ho
[07:05] <rapha> Thx NoUse!
[07:05] <oipoistar> croatian users here?
[07:05] <Rendo> Oh well, I guess I'll just have to hope the dapper live cd when I get it works better.
[07:07] <ompaul> NoUse, hmm
[07:07] <ompaul> !swap
[07:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[07:07] <ompaul> heh
[07:07] <NoUse> :-)
[07:07] <schloob> hrm, if ubuntu erased my MBR so i can no longer boot windows, what's the easiest way to dual boot?
[07:07] <ompaul> !grub
[07:07] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:07] <Prax01D> super
[07:07] <Prax01D> A FAQbot.
[07:08] <t1tan_> NoUse, I am back
[07:08] <ompaul> schloob, now you are sure that your not missing a NTLR which is a windows failure not a grub issue
[07:08] <t1tan_> NoUse, the pastebin commands you gave me did not work :(
[07:08] <NoUse> t1tan_ they work on my machine
[07:08] <t1tan_> NoUse, let me try again
[07:08] <ompaul> schloob, if you are windows is dead - and how that gets restored I don't know suggest you ask in ##windows
[07:08] <NoUse> t1tan_ how are you running it?
[07:08] <Prax01D> How different is Ubuntu from Debian, anyway..?
[07:09] <Prax01D> !udev
[07:09] <ubotu> I heard udev is a server used in Ubuntu (and other distros) that manages device nodes
[07:09] <oipoistar> does ubuntu comes with java?
[07:09] <schloob> ompaul: well, i just overwrote the MBR to boot grub and not the windows boot loader
[07:09] <NoUse> Prax01D newer packages, more frequent releases, packages designed to work together, polished desktop
[07:09] <Prax01D> besides that..?
[07:09] <NoUse> oipoistar you can apt-get it
[07:09] <Prax01D> ;>
[07:09] <Afief> is it normal that the desktop-CD installer is highly unstable?!
[07:09] <t1tan_> NoUse, it gives me a can not right to pastebin (Permission is denied)
[07:09] <BIAF> and handy sudo option
[07:09] <NoUse> t1tan_ are you using > or |
[07:10] <ompaul> schloob, I can gladly say I know no more about it, which is unfortunate for your position
[07:10] <schloob> ompaul: :(, thanks anyway
[07:10] <ompaul> schloob, lets see if we can find something
[07:10] <sovieticool> hy all
[07:10] <sovieticool> !skype
[07:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:10] <monkeyan> X Window System Version 7.0.0
[07:10] <monkeyan> Release Date: 21 December 2005
[07:10] <monkeyan> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
[07:10] <monkeyan> Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.12 i686
[07:10] <monkeyan> Current Operating System: Linux adam-desktop 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686
[07:10] <monkeyan> Build Date: 16 March 2006
[07:10] <Draconicus> apokryphos: Did you die?
[07:10] <monkeyan> 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
[07:10] <oipoistar> i know bit i like when i got it all together, nevermind i ordered a few cd-s from the site and cant await till it comes, i am a debian user but got frustrated by its "complexity" , i hope ubuntu will be something betwen debian and SuSe
[07:10] <monkeyan> 	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[07:10] <Prax01D> !apt
[07:10] <ubotu> it has been said that apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[07:10] <monkeyan> Module Loader present
[07:10] <NoUse> monkeyan don't paste!
[07:10] <monkeyan> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[07:11] <monkeyan> 	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[07:11] <monkeyan> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[07:11] <NoUse> !ops
[07:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:11] <monkeyan> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 16 12:41:35 2006
[07:11] <monkeyan> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:11] <monkeyan> (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
[07:11] <monkeyan> (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
[07:11] <monkeyan> (**) |   |-->Monitor "eView 17f3"
[07:11] <Sivik> monkeyan, don't copy multiply lines
[07:11] <Prax01D> !gpm
[07:11] <ubotu> from memory, gpm is to be able to copy and paste in console without X, sudo apt-get install gpm
[07:11] <Sivik> monkeyan, use pastebin
[07:11] <cappiz> someone here used postifx and mysql with encrypted passwords in mysql?
[07:11] <amarokker> can someone lend me a hand to test my ftp-server?
[07:11] <t1tan_> NoUse... umm neither, that is just on the first command that that error pops up, I don't even get to the second one.
[07:11] <sovieticool> ubuntu 5.10 suport XGL
[07:11] <sovieticool> ???
[07:11] <NoUse> t1tan_ where you are trying to save it?
[07:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, you can consider letting him back in a couple of minutes I have to go
[07:11] <Prax01D> !alsa
[07:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:11] <amarokker> just open ftp://g0dchild.mooo.com
[07:11] <NoUse> t1tan_ you can only save it to your home directory
[07:11] <Ranmenedhel> Someone here know how to restore backed up profiles in firefox? newbie here....
[07:11] <Sivik> sovieticool, go to #ubuntu+xgl
[07:11] <Prax01D> !dmix
[07:11] <ubotu> [dmix]  first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:11] <oipoistar> yeah does ubuntu comes with xgl???
[07:12] <NoUse> sovieticool no
[07:12] <Seveas> Sivik, that's #ubuntu-xgl
[07:12] <Seveas> oipoistar, yes
[07:12] <Sivik> Seveas, sorry
[07:12] <Sivik> Seveas, hit the wrong button
[07:12] <amarokker> anyone?
[07:12] <t1tan_> NoUse I don't get the question, where am I trying to save what?
[07:12] <NoUse> t1tan_ you are trying to download that pastebin file
[07:12] <Armagguedes> how do i had a *.PFM/*.PFB font to ubunt?
[07:12] <NoUse> t1tan_ where are you trying to download it to
[07:12] <oipoistar> niiccceeeeee........ i have used kororaa to test xgl but its based on gentoo , and gentoo suck hard (my opinion)
[07:12] <amarokker> just try opening the URL and let me know if its working? ftp://g0dchild.mooo.com
[07:13] <Sivik> oipoistar, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[07:13] <MikkelRev> Hi Im having wireless networking problems. I can connect with the wireless card in Windows, but not in gnu. Im now using a wired connection. How to fix the wireless? Its RaLink
[07:13] <t1tan_> NoUse, I don't know... I did not give it a location to download it to.
[07:13] <Prax01D> Are there more ubuntu channels?
[07:14] <NoUse> t1tan_ wget will save it to your current directory
[07:14] <nalioth> Prax01D: many
[07:14] <NoUse> t1tan_ /exec pwd
[07:14] <Prax01D> great.
[07:14] <t1tan_> NoUse oh ok
[07:14] <Zambezi> How can I disable notify messages (on- and offline) in XChat?
[07:14] <Armagguedes> im looking atksysguard, and its listing 2 "amarokapp"s, _each_ taking over 120MB of RAM.. WTF???
[07:14] <t1tan_> ls
[07:15] <nalioth> monkeyan: ban evading is not courteous at all
[07:15] <NoUse> t1tan_ I have to go, be back later
[07:15] <manji> hey, sound doesnt work in firefox. is there something i can do?
[07:15] <jksd> hi, I've entered the following entry into menu.lst for grub to load windows but I just get an error when I try to boot into it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15817
[07:15] <t1tan_> NoUse, ok
[07:15] <MikkelRev> Can anyone help me with my wireless networking problems please?
[07:15] <Ranmenedhel> *waves hands* can someone help me...?
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> anyone know what is 'montag' ?
[07:15] <manji> fyrestrtr: monday
[07:16] <nalioth> fyrestrtr: monday?
[07:16] <rapha> NoUse: that worked great; thanks again.
[07:16] <manji> fyrestrtr: in german
[07:16] <Sivik> Ranmenedhel, what is your problem?
[07:16] <Armagguedes> manji try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1084235&postcount=5
[07:16] <manji> Armagguedes: thanks
[07:16] <rathnam> hi, everytime when i try to install something i get a sanba error does anyone know how to fix this? thanks
[07:16] <Ranmenedhel> Restoring backed up profile in firefox
[07:16] <Sivik> Ranmenedhel, not sure
[07:16] <sovieticool> i need help to install skype !
[07:16] <Zambezi> Ranmenedhel: Bookmakrs?
[07:16] <Ranmenedhel> to
[07:16] <sovieticool> can help me some one ?
[07:17] <Scorpmoon> how do I install the 64bit version of fglrx ?
[07:17] <pennypacker> just installed google-earth, very nice
[07:17] <jksd> is it OK to paste 4 lines in here?
[07:17] <farshim> Hi, Does anyone know of a software which allows changing the keyboard layout to a custom one?
[07:17] <Sivik> google-earth in linux, thats cool
[07:17] <Ranmenedhel> I basically need to know how to find the mozilla folder with the profiles.ini file in Linux, I'm lost, it's the bookmarks, yes
[07:17] <pennypacker> yes there is a linux verion
[07:17] <Sivik> pennypacker, thats cool
[07:18] <pennypacker> =\
[07:18] <nalioth> jksd: it is not, use a pastebein please
[07:18] <Draconicus> I upgraded to the official dapper release from Flight 6 and now ALSA outputs no sound. What's wrong?
[07:18] <jksd> nalioth: OK, could you tell me what's wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15817 ?
[07:18] <dsewnr_> sovieticool: apt-get install skype
[07:18] <MikkelRev> Need help! Im having wireless networking problems. I can connect with the wireless card in Windows, but not in gnu. Im now using a wired connection. How to fix the wireless? Its RaLink
[07:18] <jksd> nalioth: it gives me an error when it boots up
[07:18] <Sivik> any e17 users here?
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> MikkelRev: what kind of chipset is it?
[07:19] <MikkelRev> fyrestrtr: RaLink
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> MikkelRev: first thing, is it detected?
[07:19] <rapha> MikkelRev: there's an inofficial driver for RaLink 2500 chipsets. Look at the RaLink website. It's not the easiest of chipsets however.
[07:19] <nalioth> jksd: you may wish to ask in #grub
[07:19] <jksd> nalioth: ah OK
[07:19] <bluefoxicy> hlycrap 60 updates
[07:19] <sovieticool> dsewnr_ can find the package
[07:19] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: new kernel and new gnome
[07:19] <sovieticool> :((
[07:20] <MikkelRev> fyrestrtr: rapha: lspci shows me this about the card: 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0302
[07:20] <dsewnr_> sovieticool: yep, http://www.skype.com/
[07:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sovieticool about skype
[07:20] <nalioth> sovieticool: look at your private messages
[07:20] <manji> Armagguedes: hey, have you actually used that fix for sound?
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  all from backports?
[07:20] <sovieticool> yes but i'am newbie in linux guys :(
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> MikkelRev: see what rapha said :)
[07:20] <Ranmenedhel> Windows to Linux, can't find out where the profiles.ini is.....
[07:20] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: no
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> profiles.ini?
[07:21] <rapha> MikkelRev: then you might get lucky with the RaLink driver. Try http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[07:21] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: they cant be backported
[07:21] <sovieticool> now i download a deb pack from skype.com
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> why cant I do apt-get search string
[07:21] <sovieticool> how to unpack and install it ?>
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  I'm using dapper, dapper-updates, dapper-security, and dapper-backports o.o
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> but I can do apt-cache search string
[07:21] <manji> Scorpmoon: it's `apt-cache search <string>`
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> Ranmenedhel: ~/.mozilla/firefox/somegibberishstring/
[07:21] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: they are not in the backports
[07:21] <RadiantFire> can someone tell me how I can prevent apt from flagging updates on packages I've rolled myself?
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> ok
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  updates then?
[07:21] <Sivik> !dpkg
[07:21] <ubotu> Sivik: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:21] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15820
[07:21] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: yes
[07:21] <bluelotus> Hey all.  I just installed the ATI driver for my ATI All-In-Wonder.  I then used aticonfig --initialize --lcd-mode=full  then I used aticonfig --overlay-type=opengl.  I restarted after the first aticonfig and it worked, after the overlay flag being issued it borked.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> sovieticool: easyubuntu will install skype for you.
[07:22] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: kernel=2.6.15-25 and gnome=2.14.2
[07:22] <jksd> nalioth: no one's awake in there
[07:22] <Ranmenedhel> bluefoxicy: Open up profiles.ini in a text editor. The file is located in the application data folder for Firefox: <- says so, cant do it, all n00b
[07:22] <dsewnr_> sovieticool: dpkg -i *.deb
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> Ranmenedhel:  ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[07:22] <bluelotus> how do I reconfigure my xorg.conf file? isn't there a command? I seem to remember there was one.
[07:22] <nalioth> jksd: i'm not up on grub (don't have any x86 boxen)
[07:22] <Ranmenedhel> saw that, but how to?? nooob here!
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> Ranmenedhel:  ALT+F2, gedit ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini
[07:22] <pennypacker> mb xconfig
[07:23] <jksd> anyone know what's wrong with this?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15817
[07:23] <jksd> it won't bootup
[07:23] <Sivik> bluelotus, its something like dpkg xconfig-reconfigure
[07:23] <pennypacker> or nv-xconfig or so
[07:23] <manji> Armagguedes: are you still here?
[07:23] <gnomefreak> Sivik: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: why do you still have radeon in there?
[07:23] <bullrage> higen, I did a ubuntu update last night and the kernel updated itself. My wireless card worked fine with ndiswrapper on the old kernel but now it isn't there at all on the new kernel. What should I do?
[07:23] <Sivik> gnomefreak, thats right
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: radeon
[07:23] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:24] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: do you mean the driver?
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: fglrx
[07:24] <pennypacker> but best read man xorg.conf
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: yes, remove it.
[07:24] <Zambezi> Conky doesn't work for me. What can I use instead?
[07:24] <tylerofl> has anyone here been able to get ffdshow codecs working?
[07:24] <rio_> I have no swap
[07:24] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, what are you trying to do?
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:24] <Sivik> !tell bluefoxicy about fglrx
[07:24] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: i used "ati" for that one
[07:24] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  can you fix ubotu?
[07:24] <gnomefreak> shoot
[07:24] <hkais> hi
[07:24] <rio_> when i use too much memory my computer locks up, system monitor shows i have no swap mounted
[07:24] <Ranmenedhel> bluefoxicy - thanks for the alt+f2 tip ;)
[07:24] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, check your pm
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: make sure you don't have a radeon seciton in there. pastebin your xorg.conf file
[07:24] <bullrage> higen, I did a ubuntu update last night and the kernel updated itself. My wireless card worked fine with ndiswrapper on the old kernel but now it isn't there at all on the new kernel. What should I do? If I try to modprobe ndiswrapper again I get an error so was wonderin if there was anything i could copy over? Help.
[07:25] <hkais> does anyone uses evolution as mailclient and has a running spamfilter under dapper?
[07:25] <RadiantFire> rio_: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab
[07:25] <Sivik> bullrage, what kind of card?
[07:25] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  the open source drivers support (officially) up to the R400 series, which includes 9300 and above, and Xnnn series, so you can run up to an X999; R500 series Radeon (Xnnnn i.e. X1800) aren't supported yet, so you'd need fglrx
[07:25] <bullrage> Sivik, Asus WLAN 154G
[07:25] <rio_> RadiantFire: sure, 1 sec
[07:25] <j-linux> Just installed Dapper -- something is wrong.  Cannot open Synaptic to get updates.  Actually, it looks like "sudo" is broken because it sayssudo: unable to lookup 272010432842 via gethostbyname()  -- this is my third time installing it, same problem.
[07:25] <Sivik> bullrage, not sure
[07:25] <bullrage> Sivik, 138G even
[07:25] <Sivik> bullrage, not sure
[07:25] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  Ubutu still thinks it does only R200 series :(
[07:26] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, what is your card?
[07:26] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I don't have one, I've got a via
[07:26] <Sivik> ok, what is your chipset for the video
[07:26] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I"m just sick of people telling me you need FGLRX if you have a Radeon 9300 or Radeon X750 or whatnot.
[07:26] <pennypacker> hehe if u use linux...buy nvidia =)
[07:26] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I have proper drivers, they're just broken until Xorg 7.1
[07:26] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, ok, what does it say when you do a lspci | grep video
[07:27] <hkais> does anyone uses evolution as mailclient and has a running spamfilter under dapper?
[07:27] <hkais> I have problems with spamfilter, and have no idea to fix it
[07:27] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, do you have x right now?
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  nothing, the card doesn't  show its chipset as 'video', it shows it as 'north bridge'
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, forget fglrx
[07:27] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: i forgot fglrx
[07:27] <rio_> RadiantFire, http://pastebin.com/713367
[07:27] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, what is the board type and brand
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, fglrx is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide... the radeon R400 (i.e. X800) series and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:28] <RadiantFire> rio_: yep, you don't have any swap mounted :-)
[07:28] <ubotu> okay, bluefoxicy
[07:28] <sovieticool> ahh
[07:28] <RadiantFire> rio_: can you then pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[07:28] <sovieticool> i download the wrong version of skype :((
[07:28] <RadiantFire> rio_: oh wait
[07:28] <RadiantFire> I'm sorry
[07:28] <RadiantFire> rio_: nm, I missed the swap line
[07:28] <jksd> anyone know what's wrong with this?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15817
[07:28] <jksd> it won't bootup
[07:28] <RobNyc> a/j #vlos
[07:28] <RadiantFire> rio_: paste the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda anyway
[07:28] <sovieticool> !easyubuntu
[07:28] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:28] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15822
[07:29] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, brand and board type
[07:29] <rio_> RadiantFire, http://pastebin.com/713372
[07:29] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  Via K800 northbridge with embedded video card, worked by the 'via' X driver, which is not 64-bit clean and won't have any double buffered visuals available, and in 32 bit will hard-lock X, had a kernel bug in the DRI that damaged kernel memory on 64 bit platforms up until a week before DApper release due to using an int instead of a long for a DMA area mapper function...
[07:29] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  you can stfu now
[07:29] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, fuck off
[07:29] <rio_> Hey, language!
[07:29] <hkais> does anyone uses evolution as mailclient and has a running spamfilter under dapper?
[07:29] <hkais> I have problems with spamfilter, and have no idea to fix it. Evolution doesnt filter any spam to junk...
[07:30] <RadiantFire> rio_: are you using the system right now?
[07:30] <Sivik> rio_: eat me
[07:30] <rio_> RadiantFire: yes
[07:30] <j-linux> Has anyone else had a problem with broken Synaptic just after installation? (I think that sudo is the thing that is broken).  I've already reinstalled Dapper 3 times today and am still having the same problem (1st time was ok, second two were broken)
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: that's the same thing, I need the xorg.conf not the log file
[07:30] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, i don't understand why your so pissed at me
[07:30] <hkais> j-linux: what is your problem?
[07:30] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, i was trying to help and you went off
[07:31] <manji> hey, im trying to revert my 5.10 firefox 1.5 hack. where's that article on the wiki?
[07:31] <laozi> Hello!  How come after upgrading to Drake from Breezy I get a random lockup at bootup right before the login screen?  Cursor underscore in upper left hand corner of screen will flash a few times then freeze.  NEVER did this is Breezy, what's the deal?
[07:31] <ogra> Sivik, please calm your language ... bluefoxicy i warned yu yesterday already about using that abbrev.
[07:31] <ogra> so please calm down guys
[07:31] <RadiantFire> rio_: what happens if you try to mount /dev/sda5?
[07:31] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I have proper drivers, they're just broken until Xorg 7.1 <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I"m just sick of people telling me you need FGLRX if you have a Radeon 9300 or Radeon X750 or whatnot.
[07:31] <Sivik> ogra: well, i don't desever to be gripped at like that
[07:31] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, when did i tell you that you had to use fglrx?
[07:32] <manji> hey, im trying to revert my 5.10 firefox 1.5 hack. where's that article on the wiki?
[07:32] <rio_> RadiantFire: sudo swapon /dev/sda5 gives Invalid argument
[07:32] <j-linux> hkais: I installed Dapper today (erasing my Breezy -- upgrade from scratch).  First time worked, but I wanted to go back and change partitions.  Went back and reinstalled two more times but updates won't start.  I think the problem is with sudo because I get this message when trying sudo: sudo: unable to lookup 272010432842 via gethostbyname()
[07:32] <RadiantFire> rio_: really?
[07:32] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  Your skull is still as dense as a rock and probably full of them.  <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I have proper drivers, they're just broken until Xorg 7.1
[07:32] <rio_> RadiantFire: yeah
[07:32] <rio_> RadiantFire: that's what has got me puzzled
[07:32] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d15824
[07:32] <RadiantFire> rio_: what does /proc/swaps say?
[07:32] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  I told you repeatedly, <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  the open source drivers support (officially) up to the R400 series, which includes 9300 and above, and Xnnn series, so you can run up to an X999; R500 series Radeon (Xnnnn i.e. X1800) aren't supported yet, so you'd need fglrx
[07:32] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, whatever, i don't know what your problem is, i was trying to help
[07:32] <shenki> laozi: what happens when you press alt+ctrl+F1 ?
[07:32] <bluefoxicy> Sivik: <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  Ubutu still thinks it does only R200 series :(
[07:32] <hkais> j-linux: sorry cannot help. I thought it is a deb issue...
[07:33] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, i can't control what ubutu says
[07:33] <rio_> RadiantFire: nothing
[07:33] <RadiantFire> rio_: have you tried simply mount /dev/sda5?
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> monkeyan: is this the xorg.conf you are using?
[07:33] <bluefoxicy> Sivik:  That didn't stop you from continuously pestering me about my board type despite that I repeatedly told you I already had my stuff set up and was trying to fix ubotu's inaccurate data
[07:33] <sovieticool> how i upgrage ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 ?
[07:33] <hkais> does anyone uses evolution as mailclient and has a running spamfilter under dapper?
[07:33] <hkais> I have problems with spamfilter, and have no idea to fix it. Evolution doesnt filter any spam to junk...
[07:33] <hkais> please help! I get tooooo much spam to live without a spamfiltering
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[07:33] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[07:33] <Sivik> bluefoxicy, whatever
[07:33] <rio_> RadiantFire: That tells me that mountpoint 'none' doesn't exist
[07:33] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy: stop now please
[07:33] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: yes as i said it only loads x when i use vesa driver
[07:34] <j-linux> I have another Dapper disk here... maybe will try installing again from a different CD.  The original cd tested ok though... I was happy that the install only took 20 minutes, but then I reinstalled and am now having bad problems.
[07:34] <dsewnr_> How can I make my lighttpd server on ? I can connect by http://localhost/, but can't connect by http://ip/
[07:34] <BIAF> if i want to check that php is installed, is there a command to check?
[07:34] <laozi> shenki, Tried pressing alt-ctrl-f1 with no luck!
[07:34] <RadiantFire> rio_: thats silly..., I don 't know maybe try mkswap /dev/sda5 and then swapon?
[07:34] <Sivik> judah: thanks
[07:34] <hkais> !evolution
[07:34] <ubotu> methinks evolution is an e-mail client. It comes with Ubuntu.
[07:34] <_n30> hello
[07:34] <_n30> hope someone can help
[07:34] <shenki> laozi: okay. what video card does the system have? also, what method did you use to upgrade?
[07:34] <Sivik> _n30, whats your problem
[07:34] <hkais> !evolution spam
[07:34] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hkais
[07:34] <_n30> I have ubuntu installed on an old p1
[07:34] <Sivik> _n30, ok
[07:34] <_n30> and lol cant seem to get the gui working
[07:35] <Zambezi> What can I use instead of conky?
[07:35] <Sivik> _n30, what video card?
[07:35] <_n30> s3
[07:35] <_n30> old s3
[07:35] <rio_> RadiantFire: hey, that worked
[07:35] <Sivik> it seems someone needs to be kicked
[07:35] <rio_> RadiantFire, :)
[07:35] <Sivik> _n30: is that the bran name?
[07:35] <laozi> What's a good text-based e-mail program for Linux?
[07:35] <_n30> yes S3
[07:35] <RadiantFire> rio_: lol
[07:35] <pennypacker> lspci
[07:35] <hkais> !evolution bogofilter
[07:35] <_n30> card
[07:35] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hkais
[07:35] <_n30> theres a variant
[07:35] <rio_> RadiantFire: how odd
[07:35] <laozi> I'd like to avoid the GUI altogether if I can help it.
[07:35] <_n30> on it
[07:35] <RadiantFire> rio_: I'm guessing something scribbles across your swap partition
[07:35] <pennypacker> go mittens
[07:35] <_n30> yes
[07:35] <Sivik> !s3
[07:35] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sivik
[07:36] <_n30> but im new to it
[07:36] <Drake_> laozi: mutt or pine
[07:36] <_n30> want to run a file server
[07:36] <_n30> webserver
[07:36] <rio_> RadiantFire: my other ubuntu install uses this swap too, could that cause issues?
[07:36] <_n30> so when people call my phone number they can get onto the machine
[07:36] <_n30> get a nice webpage and download files
[07:36] <Sivik> _n30, try https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-s3
[07:36] <_n30> kind of like a bbs
[07:36] <_n30> but not exactly
[07:36] <RadiantFire> rio_: the only thing I can think of is if you tried to hibernate
[07:36] <_n30> hmm
[07:36] <loki505> hey how come i cant put more music on my 512 meg mp3 player
[07:36] <laozi> Drake, Thanks.
[07:36] <rio_> RadiantFire: ahh, yeah i did
[07:37] <bluelotus> I can't get X to finish starting.  I just recently typed aticonfig --overlay-type=opengl and it broke.  I tried changing it to overlay-type=disabled and that broke too.  Any ideas?
[07:37] <Sivik> loki505, maybe cause its full?
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> loki505: is ... it ... full?
[07:37] <loki505> i used to be able to fit more than this
[07:37] <Sivik> bluelotus, what kind of card?
[07:37] <loki505> no not even
[07:37] <RadiantFire> rio_: that might be it, I honestly don't know enough about what hibernate does to the swap for restoring
[07:37] <loki505> i should have alot more let
[07:37] <YoussefAssad> Dr_Willis: that nick is familiar...
[07:37] <Sivik> loki505, what does the mp3 player say about your disc useage
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> YoussefAssad,  :P been usign it for close to 10 years now.
[07:37] <phos-phoros> I'm  having an issue with random lockups, this is the second time within /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog I notice Jun 16 11:35:54 localhost -- MARK --
[07:37] <phos-phoros> Jun 16 11:43:03 localhost kernel: [17181234.872000]  hdc: lost interrupt
[07:37] <phos-phoros> Jun 16 11:55:54 localhost -- MARK -- having appeared at the time of the lockup, any help would be greatly appreciated
[07:37] <YoussefAssad> Dr_Willis: you wouldn't happen to have been in a certain dalnet support channel years ago, would you?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> YoussefAssad,  yeppers.
[07:38] <YoussefAssad> Dr_Willis: would you recall a certain Mr. Mad Farm Animalz?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> YoussefAssad,  i gave up on Dal(spam)net ages ago.
[07:38] <loki505> i only says that i only have like  one hundred some thing
[07:38] <laozi> Hello!  How come after upgrading to Drake from Breezy I get a random lockup at bootup right before the login screen?  Cursor underscore in upper left hand corner of screen will flash a few times then freeze.  NEVER did this is Breezy, what's the deal?  << No one has any idea what this is?  I'm trying the Ubuntu forums too.
[07:38] <loki505> i just formatted it to
[07:38] <Spec> How can I check if "rrdtool" is built with python-bindings?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> phos-phoros: have you got dma enabled?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> YoussefAssad,  dont sound familer. :)
[07:38] <hkais> does anyone uses evolution as mailclient and has a running spamfilter under dapper?
[07:38] <hkais> I have problems with spamfilter, and have no idea to fix it. Evolution doesnt filter any spam to junk...
[07:38] <manji> hey, im trying to revert my 5.10 firefox 1.5 hack. where's that article on the wiki?
[07:38] <YoussefAssad> Dr_Willis: well, cheers :)
[07:38] <phos-phoros> fyrestrtr, I should have, I'll check
[07:38] <rio_> RadiantFire: my used swap is 0bytes out of 1.4GiB
[07:38] <laozi> (sorry to repost)
[07:38] <_n30> yes i see some packages there
[07:39] <bluelotus> T_T I can't even get into the aticonfig
[07:39] <IcemanV9> !patience
[07:39] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[07:39] <RadiantFire> rio_: that would make sense if you just turned it on
[07:39] <_n30> one from 8 days ago
[07:39] <_n30> how do i install it?
[07:39] <rio_> RadiantFire: forget that, opening a few copies of google earth made it shoot up
[07:39] <RadiantFire> rio_: until I get like 10 or 11 apps open I don't usually use more than 9 mb of swap
[07:39] <pennypacker> make your life easier, dont use ati on lin
[07:39] <bluelotus> because I can't get into x to have a terminal that will scroll and the aticonfig has too much info and I can't scroll up and.. and.. I'm going to cry T_T.  I tried dpkg-reconfigure and that didn't fix my problem.
[07:39] <manji> pennypacker: lol exactly
[07:39] <pennypacker> =\
[07:40] <rio_> Everyone should go get Google Earth for linux, it's kewel, and a native port too, for people who care about that kinda thing
[07:40] <Sivik> bluelotus, go into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change where it says ati to vesa and see if you can get into the gui
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> rio_: it crashed on my system.
[07:40] <Sivik> rio_ i'm fixing to go and try it
[07:40] <bluelotus> Sivik I'll try.  Thanks
[07:40] <Sivik> bluelotus: yw
[07:40] <laozi> God bless anyone in here who is willing to endure the painfully uneducated gripes of Linux noobs.  I salute you brave men and women.
[07:40] <IcemanV9> rio_: you can say that again about Google Earth. it's so cool! :)
[07:41] <Ayabara> what happens if the udp tracker port in ktorrent is not open? will my downloads be slower?
[07:41] <Drake_> anyone know of a good source to start trouble shooting why downloading large packages would cause breezy to lose network connection?
[07:41] <phos-phoros> fyrestrtr, it's taking forever to get any output from sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc
[07:41] <bluelotus> no beans, Sivik
[07:41] <hkais> really nobody here with evolution?
[07:41] <judah> hkais: hi..
[07:41] <pennypacker> linux is super, you just have to take some time to study a few important config files
[07:41] <hkais> judah: hi
[07:41] <Sivik> bluelotus, no beans?
[07:41] <pennypacker> like xorg.conf
[07:41] <RadiantFire> rio_: it is possible to have multiple swap partitions active, y ou might want to look into splitting that swap in 2 and using both seperately
[07:42] <RadiantFire> rio_: if hibernate really is causing a problem
[07:42] <judah> hkais: i'll assume that you have all of the options clicked in evolution and would expect it to work?
[07:42] <CountDown> I'm running Dapper on a Thinkpad T42p.  Suspend was working fine until I upgraded from the 2.6.15-23-386 kernel to the 2.6.15-25-386 kernel.  Now, the screen goes black and the machine is unresponsive to mouse, keyboard and lid, but the fan never turns off and I have to perform a hard reboot to get it back up.  I just upgraded to 2.6.15-25-686, but the problem persists.  Anyone have a work around for this?
[07:42] <RadiantFire> rio_: i have no idea if that will work or not though] 
[07:42] <dv_> pennypacker, I find it appaling that there is still no good GUI for xorg.conf
[07:42] <loki505> i only have one folder on there and its only 100 megs and my mp3  player can hold like 400 some megs
[07:42] <judah> hkais: i'm pretty sure that the way the filter works in evolution is that it needs to start LEARNING spam.
[07:42] <hkais> judah: yes
[07:42] <pennypacker> xorg.conf provides the gui
[07:42] <judah> hkais: so once you start tagging things spam with that big JUNK button..
[07:42] <erikh> hey folks, is there anything in GNOME that's like growl on the mac?
[07:42] <judah> hkais: it should start to learn betterz.
[07:42] <LasseL> pennypacker: I find it depressing that mastering xorg.conf editing with vi is still a required skill
[07:43] <dv_> because, if somehow the autoconfiguration on ubuntu fails (for example, the vertical frequencies for the monitor), you have to go back to the config
[07:43] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: so what do you think?
[07:43] <bluelotus> sivik changing ati to vesa in my xorg.conf file did not allow me access to the gui.
[07:43] <hkais> judah: okay i have done this for about 200 mails. but my evolution doesn't filter anything
[07:43] <judah> hrm.
[07:43] <pennypacker> hehe the info is on the net, or on teh man pages or here
[07:43] <loki505> and another thing i got an hard drive that is 70 gb and it has winxp on it and i got ubuntu on this partition
[07:43] <RadiantFire> bluelotus: i think what you are looking for is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <phos-phoros> still no result being displayed from sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc :(
[07:43] <judah> hkais: you would think it would learn something by then.
[07:43] <bluelotus> RadiantFire tried that.  didn't change anything.
[07:43] <Sivik> RadiantFire, thats the one i was trying to remeber to give him
[07:43] <pennypacker> use mb gedit
[07:43] <RadiantFire> ncurses = gui in my book
[07:43] <laozi> CountDown, I'm running Dapper on a Thinkpad T21 and suspend locks me too.
[07:43] <pennypacker> yes
[07:43] <dv_> "net", "manpages", "irc", thats not the optimum,
[07:43] <Sivik> bluelotus, run that program again and choose vesa as the video driver
[07:43] <shenki> loki505: have you deleted files using ubuntu? if so, open up the drive and press ctrl+h, and it should show up a .Trash folder -delete that
[07:44] <dv_> especially manpages are useless for non-gurus
[07:44] <bluelotus> Sivik okay
[07:44] <RadiantFire> it wuold be cool to have like SaX for k/ubuntu :-)
[07:44] <loki505> yeah i already did that
[07:44] <CountDown> laozi: Is this behavior new after you upgraded the kernel also?
[07:44] <zim_> hi all how would i use find . to find all files created 2 weeks or less ago
[07:44] <pennypacker> just try to type in console "man Xorg.conf"
[07:44] <hkais> judah: how can i figure out if the spamfilter is activated if i get mails, or i trigger evolution to check for spam
[07:44] <judah> hkais: dpkg -l | grep spam  so you have spamassassin and spamc installed?
[07:44] <dv_> pennypacker, this is not very userfriendly
[07:45] <bluelotus> still didn't work, Sivik
[07:45] <pennypacker> mb=\
[07:45] <hkais> judah: no i have bogofilter
[07:45] <Mewshi> hi guys
[07:45] <dv_> I think of something gtk-based
[07:45] <Ayabara> what bittorrent client should I use in ubuntu?
[07:45] <hkais> judah: i read, that bogofilter is the default for dapper
[07:45] <pennypacker> azureus
[07:45] <sovieticool> where i fin easyubuntu ?
[07:45] <dv_> with suggestions, tooltips...
[07:45] <judah> hkais: hrm. i have that installed too.
[07:45] <Mewshi> i have a question about getting my scanner to work
[07:45] <Sivik> bluelotus: pastebin your xorg.conf please
[07:45] <dv_> but before that: give me some GUI for smb.conf :D
[07:45] <zim_> i need to list all files younger that 2 weeks on command line how do i do this
[07:45] <bluelotus> sivik I can't.  I'm stuck in a vterm T_T
[07:45] <bluelotus> I can't copy-paste anything.
[07:45] <laozi> CountDown, Nope, its been consistent from the beginning.  There's a couple articles on installing Ubuntu on Thinkpad's, just google around for it, easy to find.
[07:45] <Sivik> bluelotus: yeah, sorry
[07:45] <_n30> how do i get the modem going from command line to get the file?
[07:46] <_n30> i em linux newbeeeeeee
[07:46] <Sivik> bluelotus: ok, where the video device information is, comment everything out except the driver
[07:46] <bluelotus> sivik one second.  I'll put it on the web.
[07:46] <Drake_> what besides an interface being up or down, the gateway being set and resolve config being set would cause a networking connection to fail?
[07:46] <_n30> i vant my gui
[07:46] <hkais> judah: have you defined own filters?
[07:46] <FreeNet> grr, what the hell
[07:46] <Sivik> Drac[Server] , yes
[07:46] <FreeNet> i dont have apache installed yet i can still access my local web server
[07:46] <Sivik> Drake_, yes
[07:46] <judah> hkais: no.. evolution has done all the magic.
[07:46] <Sivik> Drake_, alot of stuff
[07:47] <CountDown> laozi: Yeah, that's the route I took pre Dapper, but I was hoping that since suspend initially worked with Dapper, it would continue to work.  Oh well... back to the intarweb.
[07:47] <bluelotus> sivik http://cybarc.is-a-geek.net/xorg.txt
[07:47] <hkais> judah: that is really odd. I had the issue under breezy and now also under dapper...
[07:47] <IcemanV9> !tell sovieticool about easyubuntu
[07:47] <_n30> im running in recovery mode now
[07:47] <_n30> in ubuntu
[07:47] <Sivik> bluelotus, is the Bus ID correct
[07:47] <judah> hkais: do you have evolution-plugins installed?
[07:47] <_n30> how do i apt get from a server online
[07:47] <_n30> i have a modem dialup
[07:47] <Spec> on second though, i don't think i should've done dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:47] <bluelotus> sivik I get a login screen, and it accepts my username/password.  But it hangs after I log in.
[07:47] <sovieticool> help me i want to intall skype !!!!!!
[07:47] <_n30> the driver is right for my pc
[07:48] <_n30> or should i rather download from laptop
[07:48] <sovieticool> i install him but i have a error
[07:48] <monkeyan> fyrestrtr: you there?
[07:48] <laozi> CountDown, See that little sticker that says "Designed for Microsoft Windows" ... that's your curse.  :)
[07:48] <Sivik> bluelotus, then it may not be a video card issue
[07:48] <_n30> and then install from a cd
[07:48] <judah> hkais: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191901
[07:48] <_n30> ?
[07:48] <FreeNet> Anyone know what the default package name is for ubuntu's apache install /
[07:48] <FreeNet> ?*
[07:48] <sovieticool> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXxf86vm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:48] <_n30> im using my cell phone now
[07:48] <_n30> to get online
[07:48] <bluelotus> Sivik but that's when it broke T_T
[07:48] <Drake_> Sivik: what can be done to trouble shoot what would be causing the connection to die when downloading large files?
[07:48] <judah> hkais: unfortuantely i have to get some work done now. good luck.
[07:48] <bluelotus> sivik okay, thankyou anyway.
[07:48] <Sivik> Drake_, that could be a problem with the server end or your isp, it may not be your end
[07:49] <Spec> sovieticool: i guess apt-get install libxxf86vm1
[07:49] <CountDown> laozi: True enough.  Is there a designed for linux sticker I could buy instead?
[07:49] <Mewshi> so, i have a flatbed scanner, right?  I hook it up to the usb port, plug in the power, the light on it comes on.  But, the thing is, i can't, for the life of me, get it recognized in XSane, or anything else for that matter.
[07:49] <Drake_> lol one of my friends took off his "Designed for Microsoft XP" sticker and it is on the toilet lid in his bathroom
[07:49] <Sivik> Mewshi, what brand of scanner
[07:49] <CountDown> laozi: By the way, that sticker was long ago removed from my machine and superglued to a toilet.
[07:50] <laozi> CountDown, Maybe if you put it on top of the Windows one your problems will be solved!  :P
[07:50] <laozi> hah
[07:50] <Mewshi> on the lid it says Memorex 6142u Scanner
[07:50] <_n30> ok
[07:50] <FreeNet> grr, what the hell!
[07:50] <_n30> im at
[07:50] <_n30> root@ubuntu
[07:50] <sovieticool> Spec, don't work :(
[07:50] <_n30> now what?
[07:50] <FreeNet> I don't have any apache installations done and I can STILL view an apache start page
[07:50] <Spec> are you running dapper?
[07:51] <_n30> not sure
[07:51] <Spec> sovieticool: sorry, do: sudo apt-get install libxxf86vm1
[07:51] <dionysos_> FreeNet: ?
[07:51] <dionysos_> wth?
[07:51] <_n30> the driver says it is for dapper
[07:51] <dionysos_> how did you do that?
[07:51] <dionysos_> are you sure?
[07:51] <Spec> FreeNet: netstat -anp |grep -i 80
[07:51] <Mewshi> sivik, does that help you any?
[07:51] <FreeNet> dionysos_, - I am trying to remove apache from my system, and I did an apt-get remove apache2 and it removed all apache instances, but the start page still comes up
[07:51] <Spec> FreeNet: the processes is still probably running
[07:51] <Drake_> Sivik: It doesn't bring down my entire network just the breezy box and I can't ssh into it then
[07:51] <dionysos_> apt-get remove apache
[07:51] <Spec> FreeNet: ps aux |grep -i apache
[07:52] <dionysos_> try apache 1
[07:52] <Sivik> Drake_, then its probably not your end
[07:52] <Spec> FreeNet: or, if you want to make sure you removed all apache files, do: dpkg -l |grep -i apache
[07:52] <flo> i have an pppoe adsl conection and when i boot up i'm geting always the same ip adress , is that normal? in fact there is a bit of time that i'm experiencing problems with mi conection and thats hapening only with the installed kubuntu, when i use a live cd all works just fine...any advice?
[07:52] <sovieticool> libxxf86vm1 is already the newest version.
[07:52] <sovieticool> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:52] <rathnam> Hi guys i have the same samba problem when i try to install some thing as on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/48082 can anyone help me further with this?
[07:52] <sovieticool> :(
[07:52] <Sivik> Mewshi, i'm searching to see if there are any drives
[07:52] <monkeyan> can anyone help me with my ati 3d problems?
[07:52] <_n30> ok
[07:52] <Spec> sovieticool: dunno then
[07:52] <Mewshi> monkeyan, what's your problem?
[07:52] <sovieticool> thanx Spec
[07:52] <Sivik> monkeyan, what card?
[07:52] <_n30> im downloading the driver and can put it on a cd, but how do i install it ?
[07:52] <Drake_> Sivik: well if I reboot the box then it is fine something has to be able to resolve it besides rebooting it
[07:53] <Sivik> Drake_: not sure
[07:53] <SuperQ> CountDown: I have an X41 tablet, and an X31 that are both doing exactly the same thing with -25
[07:53] <SuperQ> CountDown: I'm reverting to -23 for now
[07:53] <sovieticool> i will try other version maybe i will know how to !
[07:53] <monkeyan> well my problem is that if i load any video driver other than vesa my X won't start and my card is a ati radeon 9600xt 256mb by visiontek
[07:53] <Sivik> !ati
[07:53] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:53] <Spec> sovieticool: maybe try: sudo ldconfig
[07:53] <existance> how do I view my path for g++ ?
[07:53] <rapha> Boooy, resizereiserfs sure takes its time...
[07:53] <existance> include path that is
[07:54] <DarthMorlock> !nvidia
[07:54] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:54] <Mewshi> any luck, sivik?
[07:54] <FreeNet> grr, I removed all running instances of it and it's still doing it
[07:54] <Sivik> Mewshi, still looking
[07:54] <sovieticool> nothing hapeen Spec
[07:54] <Spec> sovieticool: try skype
[07:54] <dionysos_> FreeNet: http://127.0.0.1 ?
[07:54] <CountDown> SuperQ: What's the easiest way to revert?
[07:54] <DarthMorlock> cool thanks Ubotu
[07:54] <dionysos_> are you shure its you own pc ;)
[07:54] <existance> How do I view my g++ include path?
[07:54] <FreeNet> no, http://localhost/
[07:54] <sovieticool> i try nothing :(
[07:54] <dionysos_> same thing
[07:54] <sovieticool> same problem
[07:55] <dionysos_> strange freenet
[07:55] <rathnam> test
[07:55] <SuperQ> CountDown: I only knhow how to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:55] <sovieticool> can't find llibXxf86vm.so.1
[07:55] <existance> ...
[07:55] <dionysos_> FreeNet: do ps aux and look if apache is running
[07:55] <FreeNet> dionysos_, - http://127.0.0.1/ gives invalid page
[07:55] <_n30> ok
[07:55] <monkeyan> any ideas?
[07:55] <_n30> im writing the graphics driver to the cd
[07:55] <_n30> what now?
[07:55] <dionysos_> FreeNet: it is probably your cache!
[07:55] <CountDown> SuperQ: I guess that works.  Thanks.
[07:55] <_n30> how do i apt get from the cd in ubuntu?
[07:55] <dionysos_> refresh localhost!
[07:55] <err0rr> ubuntu makes me happy in pants
[07:55] <SuperQ> CountDown: yea
[07:55] <_n30> to update my drivers?
[07:56] <Sivik> Mewshi, i can't seem to find anything, but if you look on google, you should be able to find something
[07:56] <Spec> sovieticool: ln -s /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 /lib/
[07:56] <SuperQ> CountDown: file a bug against kernel on launchpad.net
[07:56] <Drake_> how do you download the suggested and recommended packages that come up when you apt-get a package?
[07:56] <ompaul> rathnam, would you be in dublin?
[07:56] <dionysos_> its your cache in your browser
[07:56] <SuperQ> CountDown: the more people that report, the faster it gets fixed
[07:56] <phos-phoros> fyrestrtr, yes dma is on for /dev/hdc, the funny thing is...there is no disc in this drive, nor is it being accessed (or should be) when this event appears within /var/log/messages and syslog
[07:56] <rathnam> yes i am
[07:56] <Spec> sovieticool: sorry, do: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 /lib/
[07:56] <FreeNet> and it figures the ubuntu .deb of apache2 doesnt have php support
[07:56] <dionysos_> not true
[07:56] <dionysos_> you have to install mod package
[07:56] <dionysos_> not that hard ;)
[07:56] <_n30> can anyone help me install these s3 trio drivers
[07:56] <sovieticool> ln: `/lib//libXxf86vm.so.1': File exists
[07:56] <sovieticool>  this it says
[07:56] <_n30> ?
[07:56] <_n30> im a newbie
[07:56] <err0rr> does anyone use WPA in ubuntu ?
[07:56] <ompaul> rathnam, welcome to this party
[07:57] <SuperQ> FreeNet: why would you want a .deb of apache2 to support php?
[07:57] <Spec> sovieticool: ls -hal /lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[07:57] <rathnam> ompaul: Yes I am in Dublin
[07:57] <_n30> from command line in root need to install
[07:57] <rathnam> Thanks
[07:57] <FreeNet> SuperQ, - Probably so that you don't have to manually install php into the server ?
[07:57] <Zambezi> How can I solve this som Conky can work: "Conky: can't open '/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0040/temp1_input': No such file or directory please fix i2c or remove it from Conky"
[07:57] <rathnam> ompaul: where do you live yourself
[07:57] <SuperQ> FreeNet: that's what libapache2-mod-php4 is for
[07:57] <sovieticool> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24 2006-06-16 20:56 /lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 -> /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[07:57] <sovieticool> and then this
[07:57] <dionysos_> FreeNet: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Apache_HTTP_Server
[07:57] <_n30> ANYONE?
[07:57] <dionysos_> verry easy guide
[07:57] <FreeNet> SuperQ, - That is installed
[07:57] <SuperQ> FreeNet: modular code == good
[07:57] <dionysos_> follow the guide
[07:57] <Spec> sovieticool: ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[07:57] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've recompiled the kernel and at the end i got this message: Root device is (3, 1). what's that? what does it mean?
[07:57] <siriusnova> aaah
[07:57] <ompaul> rathnam, that would be for the channel #ubuntu-offtopic  <-- if xchat just click on that  D20
[07:57] <siriusnova> help me :(
[07:57] <SuperQ> FreeNet: then it should work
[07:57] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to force umount for cdrom? I'm typing sudo umount /media/cdrom0 and it says device is busy ?
[07:58] <sovieticool> done
[07:58] <sovieticool> and now ?
[07:58] <existance> How do I add something to my g++'s include path?
[07:58] <err0rr> Cntryboy: umount -l
[07:58] <CountDown> SuperQ: Yep... about to file a bug.
[07:58] <zim_> how do i get crontab -e to use vim ???
[07:58] <eclypse> whats the best way to speed up gnome?
[07:58] <FreeNet> It's not. Keeps trying to save the file
[07:58] <siriusnova> the newest kernel update borked my thinkpad, suspend and hibernate dont work anymore
[07:58] <ompaul> !helpem
[07:58] <dionysos_> (if you want php5 just replace 4 by 5!! FreeNet )
[07:58] <siriusnova> help :(
[07:58] <ubotu> ompaul: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <SuperQ> CountDown: awesome, thanks
[07:58] <sovieticool> some error when i type skype
[07:58] <ompaul> !helpme
[07:58] <eclypse> I mean, all the window managers I've seen haven't really helped but made it look worse.
[07:58] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[07:58] <Spec> Cntryboy: lsof |grep -i cdrom0   will show you what's using it
[07:58] <Drake_> how do you download the suggested and recommended packages that come up when you apt-get a package?
[07:58] <SuperQ> CountDown: I'll add to it when I get to work
[07:58] <SuperQ> <- having a slow day
[07:58] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, you wouldn't happen to be *in* that dir would you?
[07:58] <eclypse> <- just woke up.
[07:58] <zim_> HELP i hate nano how do i get crontab -e to use vim ???
[07:58] <rathnam> ompaul, see you there
[07:58] <err0rr> umount -l /
[07:58] <eclypse> can anyone help me speed up gnome?
[07:58] <SuperQ> Drake_: you have to apt-get install them separately
[07:59] <Spec> zim_: export EDITOR=vim
[07:59] <Cntryboy> no I'm not
[07:59] <zim_> ty
[07:59] <Cntryboy> vcd is in the cdrom drive
[07:59] <SuperQ> eclypse: http://newegg.com ;)
[07:59] <eclypse> theres like a quarter second delay to the top menu and loading icons and it just seemes to be sluggish over all.
[07:59] <Cntryboy> and I can't get it to eject lol
[07:59] <FreeNet> grrrr
[07:59] <eclypse> superq thats bull shit, my laptop is very fast
[07:59] <Drake_> superQ there isn't an option to include them in the apt-get install?
[07:59] <eclypse> this is not a lack of hardware performance here
[07:59] <phos-phoros> _n30, xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge and xserver-xorg-driver-s3 should be installed with a default Ubuntu installation I assume
[07:59] <err0rr> Cntryboy: you can run lsof and see what has it open
[07:59] <SuperQ> Drake_: well.. you may not always want recomended packages installed
[07:59] <Cntryboy> lsof |grep -i cdrom0 just came back to next line
[07:59] <Cntryboy> nothing happened
[08:00] <phos-phoros> _n30, you can go into synaptic package manager and select "add cdrom"
[08:00] <SuperQ> Drake_: it's better if you pick the ones you really want
[08:00] <sovieticool> Spec other ideeas ?
[08:00] <SuperQ> Drake_: not many people really need kernel-doc packages when they just want to upgrade the kernel
[08:00] <err0rr> try with the mount point
[08:00] <err0rr> like  lsof | grep /dev/cdrom
[08:00] <err0rr> errr
[08:00] <err0rr> /mnt/cdrom
[08:00] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$ lsof |grep -i cdrom0
[08:00] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[08:00] <SuperQ> eclypse: chill out, it was just a joke
[08:00] <Cntryboy> nothing happens though
[08:00] <Cntryboy> k
[08:00] <eclypse> now seriously guys...how can I really speed up gnome... I heard installing XGL could make it slightly faster. but I mean, the top menu when you open up system the icons take a quarter second to load
[08:00] <Sivik> Cntryboy, did you get that stuff you were working on the other day to work?
[08:01] <Cntryboy> which was what sivik?
[08:01] <eclypse> well, this is not a joke to me, I wanna get this fixed up so I can finally get on to what I need to do.
[08:01] <_n30> HELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo!
[08:01] <Sivik> Cntryboy, i so can't remember
[08:01] <_n30> HOW THE HecK
[08:01] <spikeb> a quarter second is not slow.
[08:01] <SuperQ> eclypse: I turn off icons, animations, etc
[08:01] <_n30> do i INSTALLLLLLLL DRIVERS
[08:01] <eclypse> dude
[08:01] <eclypse> I shouldn't have to sacrifice
[08:01] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I've recompiled the kernel and at the end i got this message: Root device is (3, 1). what's that? what does it mean?
[08:01] <_n30> Apt get from cd?:??????
[08:01] <theine> Does anybody know how I can get a listing of local or obsolete packages on the command line?
[08:01] <Sivik> Cntryboy, where you having video cards
[08:02] <eclypse> my video card is good enough to run unreal tournament 2004 with 24 bots running all over the place with perfect FPS
[08:02] <eclypse> I shouldn't have to tone down shit on the desktop
[08:02] <eclypse> seriously
[08:02] <Cntryboy> oh well I got the nvidia drivers installed, but never could find out info for installing UT game
[08:02] <spikeb> it has nothing to do with your system
[08:02] <spikeb> or at least very little
[08:02] <pennypacker> ah nvidia, good
[08:02] <Sivik> Cntryboy, which UT?
[08:02] <NoUse> _n30 you aren't being specific enough for people to help you, which drivers?
[08:02] <spikeb> more to do with flaws in gtk and gnome
[08:02] <Spec> sovieticool: what does ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 give you?
[08:02] <pennypacker> vintage 99
[08:02] <Cntryboy> unrealtournament first one
[08:02] <Cntryboy> I might have unrealtourn.2004 but can't remember if it uses serial key and its a copied game from friend
[08:03] <sovieticool> root@COBRA:~# ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[08:03] <sovieticool> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 19 2006-04-06 23:48 /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 -> libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[08:03] <_n30> xserver-xorg-driver-s3_0.3.5.4.orig.tar.gz
[08:03] <_n30> I want to instlal
[08:03] <htchien> does anyone know how to install driver for Conexant audio chip on Intel 915 notebook?
[08:03] <Cntryboy> lsof |grep -i /mnt/cdrom0 doesn't work either
[08:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, did you ever end up trying to get cedega?
[08:03] <Spec> sovieticool: what does: ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0 give you?
[08:03] <Ackeubu_> hey i need to set the following permissions to file 644 how is the syntax? chmod 644 filename?
[08:03] <hid3> Evening everyone. I've purchased a 3com 3c940 LAN card. There are two more netcards in my PC. THe problem is that the 3com card becames eth2 (the last one) instead of eth0. Is there any way I can force that card to be eth0, not eth2?
[08:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=2764
[08:03] <Cntryboy> sivik, not sure I've never heard of it
[08:03] <Sivik> Cntryboy, www.transgaming.com
[08:03] <Drake_> SuperQ: I was installed the packages in apt-get kde and there was a mile long list of recommended and suggested packages
[08:03] <_n30> how do i install it from root?
[08:03] <Spec> hid3: look up information on /etc/iftab
[08:03] <sovieticool> root@COBRA:~# ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[08:03] <sovieticool> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 19 2006-04-06 23:48 /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 -> li
[08:03] <_n30> its on a cd
[08:03] <_n30> anyone?"???????????
[08:04] <Spec> sovieticool: that last part is important, what happend to it? :p
[08:04] <Cntryboy> what is that site sivik?
[08:04] <sovieticool>  ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[08:04] <sovieticool> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 19 2006-04-06 23:48 /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 -> libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[08:04] <sovieticool> :D
[08:04] <Sivik> Cntryboy, is the site for cedega
[08:04] <Spec> sovieticool: errr
[08:04] <Cntryboy> i know but what is cedega?
[08:04] <sovieticool> ??
[08:04] <Sivik> Cntryboy, its a program, it like xine
[08:04] <Spec> sovieticool: ls -hal /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[08:04] <Sivik> Cntryboy, its like wine*
[08:04] <Cntryboy> and damn now my cdrom says not mounted, but it wont eject my disc haha
[08:04] <Cntryboy> grrrr
[08:04] <Cntryboy> oh
[08:04] <_n30> how do i mount a cdrom?
[08:04] <Cntryboy> well I don't want to use wine stuff really
[08:05] <sovieticool> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 20K 2005-07-24 15:46 /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[08:05] <Cntryboy> I just wanna install the installer for UT and get it working through commands where I can learn it
[08:05] <CountDown> SuperQ: I just submitted bug #50029.
[08:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, i don't know if thats possible
[08:05] <Cntryboy> _n30 i'm new but try,       mount /media/cdrom0
[08:05] <NoUse> _n30 mount /media/cdrom
[08:05] <Spec> sovieticool: ok, was just making sure those symlinks weren't broken. I don't know what you should do though, i don't know why skype wouldn't be able to find that library
[08:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, did you try it with wine
[08:06] <siriusnova> can anyone help me with my suspend and hibernate problems?
[08:06] <_n30> hmm
[08:06] <Cntryboy> nope
[08:06] <sovieticool> ok thanx
[08:06] <_n30> no such file or diriectorey
[08:06] <siriusnova> the newest kernel updated borked them and now i cant do either
[08:06] <Sivik> Cntryboy, try installing it with wine
[08:06] <_n30> but thanks anyway
[08:06] <sovieticool> i will go to windows :(
[08:06] <_n30> ;-)
[08:06] <Cntryboy> but I know UT was made for linux also and didn't need wine
[08:06] <_n30> DOH
[08:06] <calisee> what UT version
[08:06] <phos-phoros> _n30, you can have a look at http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ for help installing a source package
[08:06] <sovieticool> thanx Spec
[08:06] <Sivik> calisee; the first one
[08:06] <_n30> im trying to install graphics drivers so i can run
[08:06] <NoUse> _n30 that driver is already installed in ubuntu
[08:06] <NoUse> _n30 the s3 driver
[08:07] <Cntryboy> but he may mean 3d accerl. graphics for his video card
[08:07] <BIAF> http://www.transgaming.com
[08:07] <Sivik> BIAF: he doesn't want to do it with that
[08:07] <Drake_> I was trying to install the packages the other day and it shutdown the connection
[08:07] <Cntryboy> _n30 you have a nvidia card?
[08:07] <Greyscale> How do I rename all the files in a folder lowercase using bash?
[08:07] <Sivik> Cntryboy, no, he has a s3 card
[08:07] <_n30> no
[08:07] <Cntryboy> ok
[08:07] <calisee> Cntryboy: have you tried putting "installing unreal tournament in linux" in google, there are a bunch of things that pop up
[08:07] <_n30> im using an old pc
[08:07] <_n30> 64 mb ram
[08:07] <Spec> I have 1298 packages installed o.O
[08:07] <_n30> p1 233mhz
[08:07] <Cntryboy> then u should have it already from what i've read
[08:07] <_n30> 3 2 gig hdisks
[08:08] <YoussefAssad> where do I set the default locale in ubuntu?
[08:08] <NoUse> _n30 that driver is already installed you don't need to install it
[08:08] <_n30> want to run gnome or x windows
[08:08] <Cntryboy> Hey sivik really fast, if my cdrom drive isn't mounted no longer but still won't eject the disc what does that mean?
[08:08] <_n30> hmm
[08:08] <_n30> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Apache_HTTP_Server
[08:08] <Sivik> Cntryboy, not sure
[08:08] <NoUse> _n30 what happens when you run 'startx'?
[08:08] <Ackeubu_> Hey I need to set this permission to a file: 644. II do that with chmod right? so what is the syntax?
[08:08] <_n30> xserver-xorg-driver-s3_0.3.5.4.orig.tar.gz
[08:08] <_n30> that driver
[08:08] <_n30> ?
[08:08] <NoUse> _n30 yea
[08:09] <_n30> peeps dunno if you are getting this
[08:09] <_n30> when i get out of command mode my pc goes blank
[08:09] <_n30> the h disk is sitll making noise so its not stalled, but the screen turns off
[08:09] <dooglus> Greyscale: did you find the answer yet?
[08:09] <Spec> Cntryboy: have you pressed the button the cdrom drive that ejects the cdrom?
[08:09] <Cntryboy> yes
[08:09] <Greyscale> no
[08:09] <Cntryboy> at first it was say busy device
[08:10] <Spec> Cntryboy: and it's not mounted, you're sure?
[08:10] <NoUse> _n30 run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and make sure all those settings are correct
[08:10] <Cntryboy> even when umount was used
[08:10] <Cntryboy> im looking at it and it says not mounted
[08:10] <Cntryboy> still won't eject lol
[08:10] <Spec> Cntryboy: look at dmesg i guess
[08:10] <Cntryboy> but light is still flickering like its trying to read cdrom
[08:10] <_n30> error
[08:10] <freemanen> is there xgl script that works for nvidia?
[08:10] <_n30> E: couldnt find package etc
[08:11] <_n30> need to read it off the cd
[08:11] <_n30> !!!!!!
[08:11] <ompaul> !xgl
[08:11] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _n30
[08:11] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:11] <Cntryboy> is hdc the cdrom?
[08:11] <NoUse> _n30 how did you install ubuntu?
[08:11] <Sivik> freemanen, why are you trying to use xgl with an nvidia card?
[08:11] <Spec> Cntryboy: it could be
[08:11] <_n30> i installed ubuntu off a cd
[08:11] <NoUse> _n30 did you do a server install
[08:11] <phos-phoros> Cntryboy, what path are you making use of to umount the cdrom? you're not browsing the device and trying to unmount are you?
[08:11] <Cntryboy> i c lines such as this [4306275.660000]  hdc: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense =0x05 }
[08:11] <_n30> no full install
[08:11] <DarkRaven> i got a problem, i got the new kernel via autoupdate but now x is unable to start, saiyng that "cannot load kernel module nvidia" , i used module-assistant but the situation is the same... help me plz
[08:11] <Cntryboy> sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[08:12] <Cntryboy> was the path I used
[08:12] <Spec> Cntryboy: type 'mount'
[08:12] <_n30> do sooo many graphics probs
[08:12] <NoUse> _n30 live cd install or text mode?
[08:12] <Cntryboy> ok
[08:12] <Spec> Cntryboy: and pastebin the results
[08:12] <DarthMorlock> !GTK
[08:12] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DarthMorlock
[08:12] <eclypse> does anyone else here have a lag on the icons in the gnome menus? like when you open up system then administration, does it take a quatersecond for your icons to load?
[08:12] <_n30> auto install using no apic nolapic
[08:12] <DarkRaven> how to check if a module is effectively running under the kernel?
[08:12] <Cntryboy> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[08:12] <Spec> DarkRaven: lsmod
[08:12] <DarthMorlock> !Gtk
[08:12] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DarthMorlock
[08:12] <NoUse> _n30 was it via a live cd or a text mode?
[08:12] <Spec> DarkRaven: and then check the output of "dmesg"
[08:13] <Cntryboy> was just one line spec
[08:13] <DarthMorlock> !Gt-k
[08:13] <ubotu> DarthMorlock: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:13] <Cntryboy> did you see the error?
[08:13] <_n30> its not a live cd
[08:13] <_n30> its on my hdisk
[08:13] <Spec> Cntryboy: i dont' know what that means
[08:13] <Spec> Cntryboy: eject /dev/hdc
[08:13] <Cntryboy> k
[08:13] <NoUse> _n30 and the install CD wasn't a live cd?
[08:13] <_n30> pno
[08:13] <_n30> no
[08:13] <_n30> *no
[08:13] <Cntryboy> that worked spec
[08:13] <_n30> you get live cd
[08:13] <Cntryboy> thanks
[08:13] <_n30> and you get install cd
[08:13] <Spec> Cntryboy: np
[08:13] <Cntryboy> wonder what was causing that?
[08:13] <monkeyan> could someone please tell me why my 9600xt won't load with any driver but vesa
[08:13] <_n30> i installed it
[08:14] <Spec> dunno
[08:14] <_n30> on my hdisk
[08:14] <_n30> !
[08:14] <ubotu> _n30: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:14] <NoUse> _n30 calm down
[08:14] <ScatterBrain> I'm having trouble with Openssl, x509 certificates and Windows, someone wanna help?
[08:14] <calisee> !enter
[08:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:14] <NoUse> _n30 the new version use the live cd as an installer so I was trying to figure out what you used
[08:14] <_n30> how do i mount the cd rom
[08:14] <_n30> in root?
[08:14] <Spec> ScatterBrain: does it apply to ... Ubuntu?
[08:14] <NoUse> _n30 if you don't have xserver-xorg installed, you don' thave a GUI installed
[08:14] <Cntryboy> sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[08:14] <Cntryboy> _n30
[08:15] <_n30> i have xserver-xorg
[08:15] <firestrife> i'm running nvidia-glx driver and sometime my mouse cursor flickering, and gl screensaver
[08:15] <NoUse> _n30 you told me it wasn't
[08:15] <ScatterBrain> Spec, I'm creating the certificates on an Ubuntu server, trying to use them for an VPN running on Ubunutu.  And I can't find the OpenSSL channel.
[08:15] <bcc_> if i change the /boot (along with grub) location to another drive, do i need to re-install stage1 into the mbr?
[08:15] <Spec> ScatterBrain: what's your problem?
[08:15] <Cntryboy> dunno then, unless you try su mount /media/cdrom0
[08:15] <NoUse> run this 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:15] <Spec> ScatterBrain: I don't know much about VPNs...but i know a little about openssl+apache
[08:16] <NoUse> _n30 run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:16] <Cntryboy> nouse so he can't use the same command as dapper in gui? for mounting?
[08:16] <Cntryboy> just trying to understand so i'll know
[08:16] <ScatterBrain> Spec, following the guide written by Nate Carlson, I've created a CA, and self-signed certificates.  When I try to import them into my Windows clients, they say the CA isn't supposed to be creating certificates.
[08:16] <NoUse> Cntryboy he's trying to install a driver that he already has
[08:16] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[08:16] <DarkRaven> how to check if a module is effectively running under the kernel?
[08:17] <DarkRaven> i got a problem, i got the new kernel via autoupdate but now x is unable to start, saiyng that "cannot load kernel module nvidia" , i used module-assistant but the situation is the same... help me plz
[08:17] <[Wiebel] > anyone got an nm-applet 0.6.3 .deb?
[08:17] <NoUse> Cntryboy which command are you referring to?
[08:17] <[Wiebel] > s/an/a/
[08:17] <Cntryboy> oh okay, thought he said something about mounting cdrom
[08:17] <_n30> ok
[08:17] <_n30> im in grub
[08:17] <Spec> ScatterBrain: Did you self sign the certs, or did you use the CA to sign the certs you generated yourself?
[08:17] <NoUse> _n30 grub?
[08:17] <_n30> how do i get to ubuntu in command?
[08:17] <NoUse> _n30 I thought you were already running the system
[08:17] <Drake_> ScatterBrain: there is a OpenVPN channel
[08:17] <_n30> grub loader
[08:17] <Cntryboy> grub? I thought that was a boot loader
[08:17] <_n30> i restarted
[08:17] <_n30> because i was in root
[08:17] <ScatterBrain> Spec, I used the CA.
[08:17] <_n30> but i have loaded stuff
[08:17] <DarkRaven> it says unable to find nvidia kernel module but it's installed and listed in /etc/modules
[08:17] <NoUse> _n30 grub should have a menu for you
[08:18] <_n30> it says ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[08:18] <NoUse> _n30 hit enter
[08:18] <Spec> ScatterBrain: so your windows client isn't trusting the CA?
[08:18] <_n30> its loading stuff
[08:18] <_n30> uncompressing linux etc.
[08:18] <Spec> ScatterBrain: or does it say your CA wasn't supposed to sign certs? that wouldn't make sense -- that's the CA's jobs
[08:18] <_n30> now i get the ubuntu logo - a loading bar and itsays loading modules
[08:18] <_n30> etc.
[08:18] <NoUse> _n30 we don't need the play-by-play
[08:18] <ScatterBrain> Spec, it says the latter.
[08:19] <_n30> but when its finished doing this it freaks out ... NOTHING ON SCREEN
[08:19] <_n30> no graphics
[08:19] <NoUse> _n30 I understand that
[08:19] <ScatterBrain> Spec, I know.  That's what's got me puzzled.
[08:19] <Spec> ScatterBrain: you generated the .key via: openssl genrsa 512/1024 > whatever.key;openssl req -new -key whatever.key > whatever.csr
[08:19] <NoUse> _n30 Ctrl+Alt+F1  and login
[08:19] <_n30> because i need to install drivers for s3
[08:19] <NoUse> _n30 wrong
[08:19] <NoUse> _n30 you already have that driver installed
[08:19] <Trist> Hi all... I am just about to make a leap from Debian to Ubuntu (perhaps termporarily?! :-) ). I have a Pentium M (64bit) processor. Do I want the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso (even though it says AMD??) or is that really purely for amd processors?
[08:19] <Cntryboy> _n30 they said it should already be installed
[08:20] <_n30> hmm
[08:20] <Spec> ScatterBrain: then, using your existing CA, did: openssl ca -policy policy_anything -out whatever.crt -infiles whatever.csr
[08:20] <NoUse> _n30 are you at a console now?
[08:20] <_n30> the hdisk is reading
[08:20] <Skruf> Trist: No, that's for AMD CPU's.
[08:20] <_n30> i see text
[08:20] <NoUse> _n30 Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login
[08:20] <ScatterBrain> Spec, No.  I used CA.sh -newca to generate the CA.  THen I used CA.sh -newreq to generate the client certificates.
[08:20] <M0PHP> is anyone still having problems with the "Failed to initialize HAL" message?
[08:20] <_n30>  starting hware abstraction layer etc....
[08:21] <Spec> ScatterBrain: try doing it the way i just said :)
[08:21] <ScatterBrain> Spec, Then I used CA.sh -sign to sign them.
[08:21] <Trist> Skruf, is there another 64 bit version or do I just want the i386?
[08:21] <FreedomSpirit> hi
[08:21] <_n30> now the screen is blank
[08:21] <FreedomSpirit> Is there an alternative to CamStudio under linux?
[08:21] <Spec> ScatterBrain: that way you're generating the certs with SSL, and signing them with the CA
[08:21] <zim_> out of intrest has anyone got ifolders to work under ubuntu they look WOW
[08:21] <Spec> err, openssl*
[08:21] <firestrife> :-( why is my gl screensaver and mouse cursor flickering and i'm using nvidia-glx driver
[08:21] <ScatterBrain> Spec, OK.  I'l try.
[08:21] <Cntryboy> Trist from what I read i386 is more supported than 64bit
[08:21] <ubuntu_> when i try to resize my windows partition on the live cd
[08:21] <_n30> same prob
[08:21] <NoUse> _n30 Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:21] <Spec> ScatterBrain: you've done -newca?
[08:21] <ubuntu_> it says the device is busy
[08:21] <DarthMorlock> get the I64 kernel
[08:21] <Skruf> Trist: I don't think so. The only option for 64 bit seems to be AMD. If you have an Intel CPU, you need the i386
[08:21] <the--dud> could some one please, for the love of god, tell me how I fix this?
[08:21] <_n30> hmmm
[08:21] <the--dud> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197784
[08:21] <_n30> oh
[08:21] <_n30> ;-)
[08:21] <Spec> ScatterBrain: you do need to do that, in order to sign the .csr with your CA to produce a .crt :p
[08:22] <_n30> lol
[08:22] <_n30> breezy badger
[08:22] <the--dud> it's driving me absolutely crazy :'(
[08:22] <Graig> hello, are these new patches safe to install? i have 80 some patches, and i read where people were having problems with them.
[08:22] <_n30> ok
[08:22] <ScatterBrain> Spec, Yeah I've done the -newca bit.
[08:22] <_n30> so im in myname@ubuntu
[08:22] <_n30> thanks gang
[08:22] <_n30> ;-)
[08:22] <Spec> ScatterBrain: k', if you need help following the commands i gave you send me a PM and i'll tell them to you in order :p
[08:22] <NoUse> _n30 login, and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:22] <Trist> Skruf: Ok great. I'll kick off the download now then! Cheers.
[08:22] <NoUse> _n30 make sure all those settings are correct
[08:22] <the--dud> I keep getting a 'BadName (named color or font does not exist)' whenever I try to run gtk based applications
[08:23] <the--dud> then they die fatally
[08:23] <_n30> ok
[08:23] <_n30> running
[08:23] <Cntryboy> Nouse, is there a command I can use or something to bring up a brightness setting control tab?
[08:23] <_n30> haha!
[08:23] <zim_> the--dud dud is the username you are logged into X  with yes
[08:23] <_n30> configureing xserver blue screeny thing is up
[08:23] <the--dud> zim_, yep
[08:23] <ubuntu_> when i try to resize my windows partition on the live cd
[08:23] <ubuntu_> it says the device is busy
[08:24] <ubuntu_> how do i resize it?
[08:24] <NoUse> Cntryboy I think brightness is controled via the monitor
[08:24] <_n30> attempt autodetect?
[08:24] <zim_> so you just went to terminal and typed firefox
[08:24] <NoUse> _n30 sure
[08:24] <the--dud> I've tried all sorts of things now zim_ but I'm not getting anywhere
[08:24] <Spec> ubuntu_: unmount the drive
[08:24] <Cntryboy> my monitor is all the way up though
[08:24] <dooglus> what?  Grayscale left?  I just worked out how to answer his question :(
[08:24] <Spec> ubuntu_: you can -not- resize a mounted drive :)
[08:24] <the--dud> zim_, yeah... no luck
[08:24] <ubuntu_> Spec: its not mounted
[08:24] <Spec> ubuntu_: type 'mount' to double check? :)
[08:24] <zim_> what about if you create a launcher
[08:24] <Cntryboy> ubuntu, that drive sounds like its being used
[08:25] <_n30> ok
[08:25] <_n30> so its highlighted s3
[08:25] <NoUse> _n30 ok
[08:25] <zim_> out of intrest has anyone got ifolders to work under ubuntu they look WOW
[08:25] <NoUse> _n30 select the appropriate resolutions etc
[08:25] <ubuntu_> Spec: its not there
[08:25] <Graig> ubuntu_: did you try to mount it?  you might try restarting the cd, then try resizing.  and it's always a good idea to back up your data.
[08:25] <the--dud> zim_, as in the toolbar launcher in gnome?
[08:25] <_n30> enter an identifier for your video card
[08:25] <Spec> ubuntu_: yeah, i dont' know then....try rebooting the livecd
[08:25] <ubuntu_> Cntryboy: it SOUNDS like its being used, but its not
[08:25] <zim_> desktp tool bar anything
[08:25] <_n30> automatically says s3 inc. etc.etc.. (trio32/64/64v etc.)
[08:26] <the--dud> zim_, it just dies without error then
[08:26] <Spec> ubuntu_: do you know what devname it is?
[08:26] <the--dud> (obviously the errors are hidden)
[08:26] <ubuntu_> Spec: like /dev/hda2?
[08:26] <Spec> ubotu: yeah
[08:26] <ubotu> methinks yeah is whatever
[08:26] <zim_> sounds very broken
[08:26] <ubuntu_> and no, its not because i tried to mount it
[08:26] <the--dud> zim_, you don't say... :(
[08:26] <Spec> ubotu_: lsof |grep -i hda
[08:26] <tenzin_> Help...my "amule" doesnt work anymore....when I type "amule" in the console...that comes out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15826
[08:26] <Spec> errr
[08:26] <Spec> ubuntu_: lsof|grep -i hda
[08:27] <tenzin_> uninstall ---install doesnt work
[08:27] <zim_> tryed the windoze solution reboot if that fails reinstall
[08:27] <Spec> tenzin_: that sucks
[08:27] <NoUse> _n30 sounds right
[08:27] <ubuntu_> Spec: ok
[08:27] <tenzin_> Spec: yeah...it does
[08:27] <_n30> whoa
[08:27] <Cntryboy> I wish there was someone here thats actually got UT original to work with out using wine ect.
[08:27] <_n30> freaky, it wants me to specify bus id
[08:28] <ubuntu_> Spec: that did nothing except say can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[08:28] <Spec> tenzin_: try to uninstall/reinstall: dpkg --purge amule;apt-get install amule
[08:28] <Sivik> Cntryboy, did you try googling it?
[08:28] <NoUse> _n30 read carefully, you don't have to
[08:28] <_n30> please enter bus id
[08:28] <_n30> but theres already something there
[08:28] <Spec> ubuntu_: excellent :)
[08:28] <Cntryboy> yes, but at 2.1KB takes ages to load pages and all I've come up with is olddddddddddddddddddddddd sites
[08:28] <NoUse> _n30 go with the default
[08:28] <Spec> ubuntu_: except i dont' know how to help you. try rebooting the livecd? :-/
[08:28] <Cntryboy> kinda scared to try most of it
[08:28] <pdlnhr1> does anyone know what application will browse a public folder made available using gnome-user-share and avahi ?  zeroconf browser sees the share but i don't know how to get the files off of it
[08:28] <KanRiNiN> How is it possible that I wake up and their are 69 updates waiting for me!  Is that pretty much all of gnome?
[08:28] <icefeldt> someone knows why my firefox doesn't play Quicktime? (even if i have libquicktime0 and mozilla-vlc-plugin?)
[08:28] <_n30> enter amount of memory to be used by video card?
[08:28] <Spec> !restrictedplugins
[08:29] <ubotu> Spec: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:29] <Spec> errr
[08:29] <ubuntu_> Spec: its not the live cd. all i did was boot up the live cd and immeadiatly open gnome-parititon-editor (gparted)
[08:29] <Zambezi> Alternative to Conky? C doesn't work for me.
[08:29] <NoUse> _n30 you can leave that out as well I believe, read carefully, it will tell you whether its required or not
[08:29] <tenzin_> Spec: doesnt work
[08:29] <Sivik> Cntryboy, try http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Unreal%20Tournament&start=10
[08:29] <Spec> ubuntu_: try the alternate installer cd, not sure if that has gparted though
[08:29] <darkyoshi273> _n30, if you video card has its own ram, leave it blank.
[08:29] <Cntryboy> kk sivik thx
[08:29] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yw
[08:29] <_n30> im not sure if linux is having trouble identifying my cards ram
[08:29] <ubuntu_> Spec: but i dont want to lose my data, or reformat
[08:29] <_n30> maby i should add like 2 megs
[08:29] <NoUse> _n30 just leave it blank
[08:30] <_n30> but i only have 64 for my machine
[08:30] <_n30> hmmm
[08:30] <ubuntu_> Spec: i already have a hd installation
[08:30] <xbeanx> I used the ubuntu wiki to install the MS codecs but totem doesn't seem to use them....any advice?
[08:30] <Spec> ubuntu_: yes, i think the alternate installer has a way to resize the partition, but i'm not positive
[08:30] <ubuntu_> Spec: i just want it to have more space
[08:30] <Spec> ubuntu_ I suppose the alternative is to get a windows-based partition resizer?
[08:30] <ubuntu_> Spec: yeah
[08:30] <ubuntu_> thanks
[08:30] <Spec> i don't know why it's saying you can't do it though :-/
[08:31] <ubuntu_> me neither
[08:31] <_n30> use kernel framebuffer?
[08:31] <NoUse> _n30 keep the default section
[08:31] <Spec> tenzin_: amule runs fine here
[08:31] <_n30> it says no
[08:31] <NoUse> _n30 yeah
[08:31] <Spec> tenzin_: what version are you using?
[08:31] <_n30> it says enabling this option is a safe bet
[08:32] <Cntryboy> sivik do you care if I mesg you for a sec
[08:32] <NoUse> _n30 lets leave it for now, you can change it later if you want
[08:32] <Sivik> Cntryboy, not at all
[08:32] <tenzin_> Spec: 2.1.0ubuntu1 .....it worked fine here too...but I installed some things..now it doesnt start anymore
[08:32] <Cntryboy> kk tx
[08:32] <j-linux> On my 4th operating system attempt today.  Dapper won't work when I install it (although the live CD is fine).  I think it is having problems because my computer's name is all numbers.  That is the only thing I can think of.  Does anyone know how to change the computer's name when you don't have sudo access?  Is there a file I can modify through I live CD?  Or do I have to reinstall again?
[08:32] <visham> hi folks!!
[08:32] <Spec> tenzin_: hmm, it must not be amule's fault?
[08:33] <Sivik> Cntryboy, are you talking in aim?
[08:33] <ardchoille> hi visham
[08:33] <Cntryboy> sivik, did ya see my pm
[08:33] <_n30> what rule for keyboard xorg on US keyboard?
[08:33] <visham> i am having the breezy distro
[08:33] <icefeldt> j-linux: what happens when u want to install it?
[08:33] <Sivik> no, just message me on aim
[08:33] <NoUse> _n30 default
[08:33] <Sivik> visham: whats that problem?
[08:33] <Cntryboy> I have aim yes, if u can't see my pm does that mean I have to have a registered nick at freenode?
[08:33] <_n30> ok
[08:33] <Sivik> Cntryboy, Sivik30
[08:33] <Sivik> hey
[08:33] <_n30> pc104?
[08:33] <tenzin_> Spec: no, I think something "blocks" it...but I dont know what :(
[08:33] <Cntryboy> u already gave it to me yesterday
[08:33] <_n30> for windows keyboard?
[08:33] <visham> when i use the su command to run a program using root previlages it asks for a passwrd
[08:33] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, yes
[08:34] <Sivik> _n30, most of that stuff is fine on default
[08:34] <Cntryboy> ardchoille by any chance do u know command to reg nick?
[08:34] <j-linux> icefeldt: I can install it (I've done it 4 times today)... but sudo doesn't work.  Can't install updates or access anything requiring sudo.  It says sudo: unable to lookup 05109349207 via gethostbyname() -- that number is my computer's name so I think that is the problem.  I'm wondering if there is a way to change the name without sudo access (e.g., live cd)
[08:34] <visham> and when i enter the local users passwd it accepts without asking for roots password
[08:34] <_n30> thankx
[08:34] <Spec> tenzin_: look into downgrading wxWidgets
[08:34] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, /msg nickserv help register
[08:34] <Cntryboy> k thx
[08:34] <neighborlee> does anyone know ( ive checked everywhere ) how to get the channel list toshow up as tabs in xchat in dapper ? ;))
[08:34] <ardchoille> np
[08:35] <Spec> tenzin_: what version is your: libwxgtk?
[08:35] <Spec> tenzin_: dpkg -l |grep -i wxgtk
[08:35] <neighborlee> as in at top instead of in side I mean...;)))
[08:35] <ardchoille> neighborlee, View -> Layout -> tabs
[08:35] <Cntryboy> well damn it didn't show nothing ardchoille after I typed that just showed where I msg nickserver but nothing came up
[08:35] <icefeldt> j-linux: u tried to activate the root account?
[08:35] <neighborlee> ardchoille, got it thx ;00
[08:35] <neighborlee> arcade, I was looking in prefs
[08:36] <neighborlee> ardchoille, I guess they changed it to reflect similarity to gnome-xchat ;00
[08:36] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, works here
[08:36] <Cntryboy> not here, wonder if its how my xchat is setup?
[08:36] <Ayabara> I have some trouble with firefox being slooow in ubuntu. downloads are rapid, but loading new pages really takes time
[08:36] <Cntryboy> oh nm
[08:36] <Cntryboy> it shows it on server tab
[08:36] <j-linux> icefeldt: what do you mean?  I just typed "sudo", or I will try to do updates or something.  It's a new install -- nothing has been modified yet. Had to install chatzilla just to get on irc becuase can't access synaptic for xchat.
[08:36] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, what command are you typing exactly?
[08:36] <Horuzlna> Hi. I'm working with aptitude on ubuntu-server. There's a bunch of junk installed, like ALSA (why do I need ALSA on my servers?) -- ok, so I try to remove them, and when I do so, it says it's removing Ubuntu-minimal... Is that OK?
[08:36] <_n30> i can select "blank" for keyboard options?
[08:36] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, ok, that makes sense
[08:36] <neighborlee> ardchoille, thx tons..what a relief :)lol
[08:36] <ardchoille> neighborlee, yw :)
[08:37] <Scorpmoon> after reinstalling Ubuntu in my partition table I have _2_ unallocated partitions.. one is only 1 MB big
[08:37] <tenzin_> Spec: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1614/
[08:37] <Scorpmoon> what is this?
[08:37] <Scorpmoon> is that where GRUB was before?
[08:37] <icefeldt> ah dont mind
[08:37] <j-linux> icefeldt: I also tried "sudo -s" which works on the live CD, but not on the installation.  I am pretty sure it is the all-numbers as a computer name.  That was the only difference between these failed installations and the working one.
[08:37] <Cntryboy> okay im all registered thx ardchoille
[08:38] <NoUse> _n30 you mean keyboard varient
[08:38] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, yw
[08:38] <Spec> tenzin_: uhh
[08:38] <Nukeador> hi all
[08:38] <Spec> tenzin_: get rid of libwxgtk2.4-1
[08:38] <nickrud> j-linux, you can edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts using the live cd
[08:38] <ardchoille> hi Nukeador
[08:38] <Spec> tenzin_: and libwxgtk2.4-1-contrib
[08:38] <piratepengui1> what package provides /usr/include/linux/limits.h ? For some reason 'auto-apt search limits.h' doesn't list it :/
[08:38] <_n30> um now im at open gl renering etc.
[08:38] <_n30> what now?
[08:38] <Spec> tenzin_: apt-get remove libwxgtk2.4-1 libwxgtk2.4-1-contrib
[08:38] <icefeldt> j-linux: sry cant help u. easiest way should be to install again and set a name with at least 1 alphabetic character
[08:38] <Horuzlna> Hi. I'm working with aptitude on ubuntu-server. There's a bunch of junk installed, like ALSA (why do I need ALSA on my servers?) -- ok, so I try to remove them, and when I do so, it says it's removing Ubuntu-minimal... Is that OK?
[08:38] <NoUse> _n30 defaults
[08:38] <nickrud> j-linux, those two files will be relative to your dapper install partition
[08:39] <Nukeador> anyone knows if i have to install something more than  tcl8.4 to run tcl scripts in xchat, i always get an error...
[08:39] <gavagai> I don't use X.  What are my options for setting up automatic updates?
[08:39] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks... I was hoping that was possible! :)
[08:39] <_n30> write dri to config"?
[08:39] <Horuzlna> these guys are not being helpful
[08:39] <edneymatias> hello LTS flying car pessengers!
[08:39] <monkeyan> anyone help me with my ati card?
[08:39] <nickrud> j-linux, you're not the only person with that kind of problem ;)
[08:39] <icefeldt> someone knows why my firefox doesn't play Quicktime? (even if i have libquicktime0 and mozilla-vlc-plugin?)
[08:39] <j-linux> icefeldt: thanks... I am going to go try adding some alphabetic characters now.
[08:39] <NoUse> _n30 yes
[08:39] <tenzin_> Spec: I removed it....but the same error comes on the amule startup
[08:39] <anoop> hi all
[08:40] <_n30> attempt monitor detection...
[08:40] <_n30> guess so.
[08:40] <NoUse> _n30 yes
[08:40] <Spec> tenzin_: dpkg -l |grep -i wxg
[08:40] <Spec> tenzin_: you can send the output in a PM to me if you desire
[08:40] <_n30> hmm it says GENERIC MONITOR
[08:40] <_n30> is this ok?
[08:40] <Spec> yes
[08:40] <NoUse> _n30 yes
[08:40] <_n30> dunno what make this is
[08:40] <_n30> hmmm
[08:40] <_n30> interesting part
[08:40] <j-linux> nickrud: there should be a warning message to warn against using all numbers.  I'll see if that is the problem and then return, hopefully with a working computer.  A 20 minute install that has turned into 3 hours...
[08:40] <_n30> select the video modes you wish to use
[08:40] <_n30> its a 14 inch
[08:40] <_n30> monitor
[08:40] <Horuzlna> Hi. I'm working with aptitude on ubuntu-server. There's a bunch of junk installed, like ALSA (why do I need ALSA on my servers?) -- ok, so I try to remove them, and when I do so, it says it's removing Ubuntu-minimal... Is that OK?
[08:40] <NoUse> _n30 does it have values there already?
[08:41] <_n30> i have up to 1024xetc selecten
[08:41] <nickrud> j-linux, I've never heard of that problem, but then I've don't remember ever seeing all numbers for a hostname, either
[08:41] <_n30> yes
[08:41] <_n30> already values
[08:41] <Spec> Horuzlna: no
[08:41] <NoUse> _n30 what resolutions does your monitor support?
[08:41] <Sivik> how do you go about editing who has sudo ability and who doesn't
[08:41] <sysdoc> Hey guys I install another distro and unfortunately over wrote the ubuntu boot loader (doh!). Anyone know how I can tweak the existing boot loader to boot my ubuntu distro?
[08:41] <Horuzlna> Spec: So what am I supposed to do?
[08:41] <Spec> Horuzlna: apt-cache showpkg ubuntu-minimal
[08:41] <gavagai> Sivik, sudo visudo
[08:41] <NoUse> _n30 it will support up to 1024 for sure
[08:41] <_n30> in windows 9x it goes up to 1024x768
[08:41] <Spec> Horuzlna: i'm not sure -- you do not need alsa on a server, that's true.
[08:41] <gavagai> Sivik, or you can add users to the admin group i think
[08:41] <NoUse> _n30 ok, then leave it
[08:42] <Sivik> ok
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Horuzlna: leave it alone they are installed with server install
[08:42] <anoop> can i hav a web server n name server in one system
[08:42] <Spec> Horuzlna: but ubuntu-minimal has dependencies on things like "adduser" and "grep"
[08:42] <gavagai> Sivik, first make a backup copy of /etc/sudoers !
[08:42] <Sivik> ok
[08:42] <Ackeubu_> Heey what is this 62 ubuntu updates!!!
[08:42] <Horuzlna> Why does Ubuntu-server need ALSA ???
[08:42] <Horuzlna> I dont want this junk
[08:42] <Spec> gnomefreak: why does he need alsa on a server?
[08:42] <Horuzlna> I also do not want "wpasupplicant"
[08:42] <Horuzlna> my servers don't use ..... wireless
[08:42] <nickrud> oh, hostnames must not have numbers
[08:42] <Spec> dpkg --purge wpasupplicant
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Spec: it was added to dapper because not everyone that installs server install uses it for server
[08:43] -neoxan__:#ubuntu- DCC SEND 0123456789penismann
[08:43] <Nukeador> anyone knows if i have to install something more than  tcl8.4 to run tcl scripts in xchat, i always get an error...
[08:43] <Spec> !ops
[08:43] <monkeyan> anyone help me with 3d support for ati 9600xt card?
[08:43] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:43] <Spec> thanks
[08:43] <r0bby> idiot
[08:43] <Spec> (what client did that crash?)
[08:43] <gnomefreak> i cant find him
[08:43] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:44] <Seveas> Spec, dlink/linksys routers
[08:44] <lol> lol
[08:44] <Seveas> gnomefreak, you use xchat?
[08:44] <Spec> not that it's funny or anything
[08:44] <scacco[newton] > lux`: you too?
[08:44] <lol> internets
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Seveas: nope
[08:44] <AngryElf1> why is it that when using dvdrip, and I always use the same settings - sometimes it won't grab the preview frame and when I start to transcode it just hangs at Initializing??
[08:44] <_n30> hmm
[08:44] <erisco> hello, I am having issues regarding my samba server. For some reason I cannot see my network, however I have installed samba
[08:44] <_n30> wants to know what refresh my monitor is
[08:44] <erisco> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:44] <AngryElf1> erisco, did you configure it?
[08:45] <NoUse> _n30 does it have values there already?
[08:45] <Spec> 60 will probably work
[08:45] <Spec> erisco: did you configure it?
[08:45] <erisco> AngryElf1, not any more than setting up the OS and installing samba
[08:45] <_n30> i chose simple option
[08:45] <_n30> its going to try to detect refresh
[08:45] <erisco> how would I go about configuring it?
[08:45] <apokryphos> Seveas: entermsg? :)
[08:45] <AngryElf1> i'd be willing to bet that configuring it properly would make it work a little better
[08:45] <Seveas> SH*T
[08:46] <_n30> how do i go back?
[08:46] <AngryElf1> google, read /etc/samba/smb.conf - there are lots of comments in there
[08:46] <Triu> anyone having a problem with realplayer? >. it works but heavey and the video is not streaming smoothly.. what can be the problem ?
[08:46] <tenzin_> Spec: any Idea? :D
[08:46] <Prax01D> !cups
[08:46] <ubotu> cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[08:46] <NoUse> _n30 what do you need to change?
[08:46] <Spec> tenzin_: did you do the dpkg -l |grep -i wxg again?
[08:46] <Sivik> if i only want one user to be a sudoer, how do i desinate that in the sudoer file
[08:46] <darkyoshi273> Is there any easy voice recognitions solution for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <Prax01D> !tmpfs
[08:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Prax01D
[08:47] <_n30> ok
[08:47] <neuro_> darkyoshi273: someone else typing for you :>
[08:47] <Spec> darkyoshi273: sphinx2-bin
[08:47] <_n30> now im back in command
[08:47] <_n30> how do i start the gui?
[08:47] <Spec> darkyoshi273: "sphinx2-bin - speech recognition utilities"
[08:47] <NoUse> _n30 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:47] <tenzin_> Spec: yeah...I get this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1617/
[08:47] <dooglus> does anyone know bash very well?
[08:47] <Spec> darkyoshi273: i don't know how good it is... :p
[08:47] <gnomefreak> _n30: startx
[08:47] <_n30> it wrote a range of 14 inch monitor values to some file
[08:47] <Spec> !anyone
[08:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:47] <Cntryboy> when downloading something from like http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51 I picked direct, but they have an option for md5, what is md5?
[08:47] <Spec> tenzin_: ok
[08:48] <dooglus> I'm wondering why this does what it does:    if [[ "C" == [b-d]  ] ] ; then echo yes; else echo no; fi
[08:48] <Ackeubu_> How do I get my build in 4in1card reader to work?
[08:48] <eclypse> guys, off the top of your head, whats the best way to speed up gnome without installing window managers or sacrificing looks?
[08:48] <Spec> tenzin_: sudo dpkg --purge libwxgtk2.4-1  libwxgtk2.4-1-contrib
[08:48] <Horuzlna> Every time I try to remove pppoeconf, it says that ubuntu-standard was broken and needed to be fixed and it automatically re-enables ppoe
[08:48] <Horuzlna> I cant remove it
[08:48] <Horuzlna> from Aptitude
[08:48] <Sivik> if i only want one user to be a sudoer, how do i desinate that in the sudoer file
[08:48] <Horuzlna> this is pissing me off
[08:48] <apokryphos> Seveas: thanks
[08:48] <darkyoshi273> Spec,  Thanks, I'll try it!
[08:48] <mezzay> anyone from toronto???
[08:48] <darkyoshi273> Me@
[08:48] <Spec> darkyoshi273: if you stick around, tell me how good it is :)
[08:48] <tenzin_> Spec: ok, done....and then?
[08:48] <darkyoshi273> Okay
[08:48] <Spec> tenzin_: run amule and watch it crash again? :p
[08:48] <_n30> hmmm says no such file ordirectory
[08:49] <NoUse> _n30 for which command?
[08:49] <tenzin_> Spec: yeah...still the same
[08:49] <Sivik> how do i specify to have a certain user as the only system admin in the sudoer file
[08:49] <_n30> sudo/etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:49] <Spec> tenzin_: perhaps it's a configuration, mv ~/.aMule ~/amule.backup
[08:49] <Cntryboy> nouse what does md5 mean if you dont mind me asking?
[08:49] <MrKeuner> hi, I have installed restircted modules and xorg-driver-fglrx but I do not see any fglrx.ko modules under /lib/modules which package do I lack?
[08:49] <ardchoille> _n30, you need a space after sudo
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> Sivik: ffs, man sudo
[08:49] <NoUse> _n30 you need a space
[08:49] <Sivik> gavagai, how do i make only a certain user be a system admin in the sudoer file
[08:49] <_n30> hmmm
[08:49] <_n30> ok
[08:49] <MrKeuner> !help
[08:49] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, ffs?
[08:49] <Spec> Cntryboy: md5sum generates a long magical number off a file
[08:49] <ompaul> Horuzlna, take it easy on the language please
[08:49] <Spec> Cntryboy: if the file is at all different, the long magical number will have changed
[08:50] <_n30> stopping gnome display man
[08:50] <neutrinomass> Sivik: They should be the only user in the "admin" section of /etc/group ...
[08:50] <_n30> now its restarting
[08:50] <Spec> Cntryboy: so if you take an md5sum of, say, a cd-ISO, and compare it to what it's supposed to be, if it's different, than the contents of the .iso have changed
[08:50] <Cntryboy> what is it good for though?
[08:50] <r0bby> thanks
[08:50] <_n30> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
[08:50] <Cntryboy> is it better to download direct or md5?
[08:50] <_n30> YOU ARE UBER LEET
[08:50] <Sivik> neutrinomass, does it really not have anything to do with the sudoer file?
[08:50] <_n30> THANK YOU
[08:50] <neutrinomass> Sivik: I'm not absolutely sure, let me take a look...
[08:50] <Spec> Cntryboy: detecting bad downloads/verifying a hacker hasn't changed it, etc
[08:50] <Sivik> neutrinomass, ok
[08:50] <_n30> SHOUTS OUT TO NO USE,,, CHANGE YOUR NAME MAN!!!!
[08:50] <Cntryboy> ic ic
[08:51] <_n30>  you were very useful!!!!
[08:51] <Spec> Cntryboy: the md5 file is just a number you compare it to, type "man md5sum" for more information
[08:51] <Cntryboy> I get ya
[08:51] <_n30> KICKASS
[08:51] <Cntryboy> ty
[08:51] <_n30> A LINUX SUCCESS STORY!
[08:51] <ardchoille> _n30, lol
[08:51] <Spec> Cntryboy: if you want to find the md5sum of every file in your system (note: no reason to do this), you'd type: find . |xargs -n1 md5sum
[08:51] <Cntryboy> kk
[08:51] <_n30> thanks a bunch to all the linux users out there
[08:51] <r0bby> Seveas, thank you
[08:51] <eclypse> guys
[08:51] <Cntryboy> well im not downloaded the md5 so I don't need to man md5sum ight?
[08:51] <_n30> VIVA LA MICROSHAFT RESISTANZE
[08:51] <eclypse> do you think its posisble that gnome isant using opengl rendering?
[08:51] <neutrinomass> Sivik: As far as I can tell, no. In /etc/sudoers is the group "admin". If you belong to that group, you can use sudo ...
[08:51] <Spec> Cntryboy: hehe
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: also note, that might take a while and will probably make your hard disk spin ... alot :)
[08:51] <Spec> Cntryboy: naa, you don't need to worry about it
[08:51] <eclypse> and thats why uit could possibly be going slow graphics wise?
[08:51] <MrKeuner> hi, I have installed restircted modules and xorg-driver-fglrx but I do not see any fglrx.ko modules under /lib/modules am I lacking any packages?
[08:51] <Cntryboy> <<<dumb
[08:51] <Cntryboy> :)
[08:51] <Spec> Cntryboy: you can safely ignore the existance of .md5 files
[08:52] <jouni__m> eclypse System ->Admin -> Services
[08:52] <Sivik> neutrinomass, but thats the thing, i want to be able to remove ppl from there
[08:52] <Cntryboy> im at this site here http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51
[08:52] <Horuzlna> How do I change the console font? I want like 132x60
[08:52] <Cntryboy> u will see what im talking about
[08:52] <Horuzlna> vga=6 doesnt do anything cause when the fonts configure it goes back
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Sivik: just don't add them to the admin group
[08:52] <eclypse> jouni__m then what?
[08:52] <neutrinomass> Sivik: Then remove them from the admin group ...
[08:52] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, but what if their already there
[08:52] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks, that worked.  You cannot use an all-number computer name in Dapper otherwise sudo won't work.  I wonder if they know about that problem.
[08:52] <Spec> Cntryboy: yeap, the md5 is just a file with a long number in it, it's very small, go ahead and download it/open it up with a text editor if you wanna see it
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Horuzlna: 6 is not a valid mode line for vga
[08:52] <Sivik> neutrinomass, how do i go about doing that?
[08:52] <Sivik> neutrinomass, if it just says all
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> Sivik: you can always remove them from the admin group.
[08:52] <Spec> Cntryboy: once you download the real file, run "md5sum <downloadedfile>" and compare the numbers, they should be identical to what's shown in the *.md5 file
[08:52] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, how??????????????????
[08:53] <eclypse> jouni__m, what do I do there?
[08:53] <Horuzlna> fyrestrtr: Yes it is.
[08:53] <Spec> tenzin_: how's it going?
[08:53] <Horuzlna> there's  6 vgamodes
[08:53] <nickrud> j-linux, just after you bailed, I read the man page. hostnames start with alphabetic characters
[08:53] <Horuzlna> I want something like svgatextmode
[08:53] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, that was the second time i asked you how to do it
[08:53] <Cntryboy> ok spec
[08:53] <neutrinomass> Sivik: I suspect from System->Administration-> Users and Groups ?
[08:53] <tenzin_> Spec: have the output only in german :/
[08:53] <Cntryboy> Im on dialup I just hope Im downloading the right thing
[08:53] <Spec> tenzin_: eh? o.O
[08:53] <darkyoshi273> Spec, it doen't work well, and it seems pretty useless.
[08:53] <Cntryboy> wanting to install unreal tournament (original)
[08:53] <tenzin_> Spec: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1618/
[08:53] <Spec> darkyoshi273: hahaha
[08:53] <Sivik> neutrinomass, but what if i don't have gnome or kde installed
[08:53] <tenzin_> Spec: :)
[08:53] <Horuzlna> You guys suck
[08:53] <sysdoc> Is there a way to recover the boot loader for ubuntu is another distro was installed and grub was installed with the new distro?
[08:54] <Spec> darkyoshi273: sorry, try looking at more generic recognition programs for linux, like, perhaps on sourceforge.net
[08:54] <Scorpmoon> Is the Live CD able to use unallocated space on the harddisk as swap?
[08:54] <Horuzlna> And don't answer my questions... Im gonna go on EFNet #ubuntu instead :(
[08:54] <apokryphos> sysdoc: yes, check the FAQ
[08:54] <jouni__m> eclypse improvise ;)
[08:54] <Spec> Scorpmoon: you mean, while installing?
[08:54] <Sivik> neutrinomass, i need to be able to do it from init 3
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> Sivik: you have two options, you can use the usermod command -- or you can directly edit the /etc/groups file.
[08:54] <Scorpmoon> I have this 1MB unallocated space in the start of my harddisk, I can't get rid of it
 what do you mean?
[08:54] <Scorpmoon> if I try to deactivate it i get "unable to deactivate swap"
[08:54] <Scorpmoon> Spec, yes
[08:54] <darkyoshi273> Spec, good idea.
[08:54] <sysdoc> apokryphos: in the wifi??
[08:54] <Spec> Scorpmoon: swapoff
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> sysdoc: I think if you just install grub again, it will set itself up.
[08:54] <sysdoc> wifi sorry
[08:54] <Scorpmoon> Spec, huh?
[08:54] <siriusnova> hey
[08:54] <apokryphos> sysdoc: sorry?
[08:54] <tenzin_> Spec: but it sais...that this two packages canot be removed because they are not installed
[08:54] <siriusnova> anyone here using an IBM Thinkpad ?
[08:54] <siriusnova> and Dapper?
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: sure
[08:54] <j-linux> nickrud: would have been nice for their installer to mention that :S  If I hadn't gone in the terminal and poked around a bit I would have though Dapper was just buggy and didn't work on my computer.
[08:55] <Spec> tenzin_: you did dpkg --purge ?
[08:55] <siriusnova> fyrestrtr - what tihnkpad?
[08:55] <siriusnova> think
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> T43
[08:55] <sysdoc> oops, lol sorry I meant to say wiki
[08:55] <NoUse> Cntryboy it supposedly works in wine
[08:55] <siriusnova> fyrestrtr - you having suspend and hibernate problems after the newest kernel update?
[08:55] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, thats not what i'm trying to do
[08:55] <Scorpmoon> Spec, what do you mean with swapoff
[08:55] <siriusnova> i cant do either anymore
[08:55] <apokryphos> sysdoc: yup, the FAQ's linked in the topic
[08:55] <NoUse> Cntryboy http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=124
[08:55] <nickrud> j-linux, I've been using linux over 5 years, and never even considered givinga machine such a hard name to remember ;)
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: not really.
[08:55] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, so it has nothing to do with the sudoer file?
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: are you using the ati binary drivers?
[08:55] <Spec> Scorpmoon: swapoff /dev/hda#
[08:56] <sysdoc> fyrestrtr: will it still have the new distro in the boot menu too?
[08:56] <pippin> is autologin broken in edgy?
[08:56] <j-linux> nickrud: yeah... probably most people would type in something easy to remember.
[08:56] <Cntryboy> yeah but I wanna learn how to do the basic install from linux and not use wine or any emulator
[08:56] <johnm1019> whats the best way to get a quicktime player on ubuntu?
[08:56] <Spec> Scorpmoon: will make it not use that as swap...if you're saying ubuntu is using it as swap?
[08:56] <tenzin_> Spec: now I purged it, reinstalled it and same error :-X
[08:56] <siriusnova> fyrestrtr - after the newest kernel update on my IBM THinkpad T30 i cant suspend or hibernate the system goes respnsive and no im not using the ati drivers as this system uses the x.org drivers
[08:56] <apokryphos> pippin: .... #ubuntu+1
[08:56] <Drake_> what would cause these to show up in /var/log/auth.log over and over? Jun 14 12:17:01 drake CRON[10809] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 14 12:17:01 drake CRON[10809] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[08:56] <Spec> tenzin_: mv ~/.aMule ~/amule.backup
[08:56] <nickrud> Sivik, it has everything to do with sudoers, and /etc/group.
[08:56] <siriusnova> so i downgraded back to the older kernel
[08:56] <Scorpmoon> Spec, I don't know if it is.. it just comes as odd to me that I have 2 unallocated space heaps in my gPart !
[08:56] <siriusnova> and suspend and hibernate work fine
[08:56] <Spec> Scorpmoon: ah, i dont' know then....i dont' like gparted :-/
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> Sivik: look, by default -- unless you give a user permissions, or add them to a group that has permissions to sudo, then they cannot sudo. Now in ubuntu, the 'default' user is added to the group 'admin' and this group is allowed to sudo. Now when you add a new user and you don't want them to sudo -- don't add them to the admin group. If they are in the admin group already, remove them from that group by either editing /etc/group or by u
[08:56] <Sivik> nickrud, then how can i edit the sudoers file, so only a certain user can be a sudoer
[08:56] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[08:56] <NoUse> Cntryboy but unreal is a Windows game
[08:57] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, but i'm trying to remove someone, not add them
[08:57] <tenzin_> Spec: "No such file or directory
[08:57] <tenzin_> "
[08:57] <Spec> unreal works in linux
[08:57] <pippin> apokryphos: (I oops, I mixed up the names,. I meant in dapper)
[08:57] <Spec> tenzin_: are you user: tenzin?
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: I believe for suspend to work, you must use the ati drivers.
[08:57] <apokryphos> pippin: it isn't, no.
[08:57] <siriusnova> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50029 <-- i made a bug report
[08:57] <NoUse> Spec it was code for 2.2 kernels
[08:57] <Cntryboy> yes, but it was also made to work find in linux with out emulating with wine
[08:57] <siriusnova> fyrestrtr - suspend worked fine in all the previous kernels, its a new bug
[08:57] <nickrud> Sivik, if you examine /etc/sudoers, you'll see a line start with %admin. make a copy of that line, comment out one, and replace %admin in the other with the single username you want to have sudo privileges
[08:57] <skullKid> Speak Portugues?
[08:57] <NoUse> Spec does it still work?
[08:57] <kandinski> Quake2 sound is very choppy for me on Dapper on a Toshiba m200 (Intel 8x0 and ac97)
[08:57] <Spec> NoUse: yes, i've played unreal on ubuntu
[08:57] <Seveas> !pt
[08:57] <MrKeuner> I install xorg-driver-fglrx along with restricted modules package however I do not get fglrxinfo to show something other than mesa after restarting gdm. What am I missing?
[08:57] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:57] <Sivik> ok
[08:57] <Sivik> nickrud: thanks
[08:57] <NoUse> Spec ok
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: hrmm, haven't ran across it. Mind you I just updated a few hours back.
[08:57] <pippin> apokryphos: it seems to be here,. it asks for the users password when I try
[08:57] <Spec> man this channel is fast, i gotta start smoking crack to keep up
[08:57] <Drake_> Sivik: read the "man sudoers" that helped me a lot
[08:58] <Sivik> Drake_, i didn't help me much
[08:58] <tenzin_> Spec: no, I wasnt...but now I did it on "tenzin"...I removed it....but still cant start amule
[08:58] <ardchoille> Spec, LOL!
[08:58] <siriusnova> fyrestrtr - try suspending and see if you can resume back again
[08:58] <Spec> tenzin_: damn, what the heck
[08:58] <tenzin_> Spec: yeah.... ://
[08:58] <Spec> tenzin_: what version is your: libstdc++6
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: i'm 20% on a 999 MB download. I'll do it when its done.
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> siriusnova: you already checked at the thinkpad wiki?
[08:59] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks, thats whats i was trying to get fyrestrtr to help me with
[08:59] <siriusnova> fyrestrtr - i did its a new bug, the bug is new in the new kernel update from last night
[08:59] <monkeyan> could someone please help me with 3d redering with 9600xt card?
[08:59] <Sivik> ompaul: what was that pm for?
[08:59] <tenzin_> spec: 4.0.3-1ubuntu5
[08:59] <siriusnova> everything was working fine prior and i downgraded to check if it was just the kernel thats causing problems, it is
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> Sivik: its like okay -- either I tell you .. go here, edit this file, remove this -- and it works, but next time around, you are back asking the same question. Or I tell you how it works. :)
[08:59] <Drake_> why would there be a cron job listening for an ssh connection for root if root is not able create an ssh connection?
[08:59] <Spec> tenzin_: pastebin: ldd `which amule`
[09:00] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, i understand how it works, i just didn't know what the file needed to say
[09:00] <nickrud> fyrestrtr, very very true
[09:00] <Sivik> fyrestrtr, i was trying to tell someone else, just couldn't remember what i needed to be set as if you have more than one user and you only wanted one to be the sudoer
[09:00] <tenzin_> spec: pastebin? is that a command?
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> !tell tenzin_ about pastebin
[09:00] <Spec> tenzin_: no, i meant, paste the results on some sort of pastebin-like website :p
[09:00] <pippin> apokryphos: not a big deal for me though, I'll just make it autologin through other means,. but it'll be a bit more painful when I need to use the box for non "kiosk" purposes
[09:01] <Spec> is there a #ubuntu support channel on efnet? and who are ops there?
[09:01] <tenzin_> spec: ahh....yeah :)  ....how is the comand agian to find out with version?
[09:01] <apokryphos> pippin: are you sure you have it enabled correctly?
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> Spec: I believe this is the only 'official' support channel
[09:01] <Drake_> the thing I haven't figured out is why you can "cd" as a sudo user
[09:01] <eclypse> jouni__m, what do you mean by improvise? I'm a noob here so I have no clue what to do lol.
[09:01] <orbin> i can't upgrade.  i think i broke it when i installed and then tried to remove the ati.com fglrx driver.   upgrade error output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15828  fglrx removal attempt output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15827 ... any seen these errors before?
[09:01] <Cntryboy> i think so spec, but its small
[09:01] <pippin> apokryphos: 95% sure
[09:01] <neutrinomass> Drake_: Because 'cd' is not a program ,it's built in bash
[09:01] <nickrud> Sivik, fyrestrtr's advice was within the ubuntu specs, I wanted the question to go away ;P
[09:02] <Spec> tenzin_: version of what?
[09:02] <apokryphos> pippin: ask again in this channel, I don't use GDM so there might be something more to it
[09:02] <scacco[] > 7win 1
[09:02] <Triu> anyone  having a problem with Realplayer.. the video streaming is not  smooth
[09:02] <graveson> my download speed on my DSL router has dropped considerably,what can i use to troubleshoot this ?
[09:02] <Sivik> nickrud, i understand that, but i asked him what the sudoer file needed to say so it would only allow one user as the sudoer and not all
[09:02] <Spec> tenzin_: you're gonna wanna paste the results of: ldd `which amule`
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> graveson: downloading using torrents, ftp, or general browsing?
[09:02] <Spec> tenzin_: that'll show me/you which libraries the program "amule" is actually calling/looking for
[09:02] <MrKeuner> anny help is highly appreciated
[09:02] <MrKeuner> I install xorg-driver-fglrx along with restricted modules package however I do not get fglrxinfo to show something other than mesa after restarting gdm. What am I missing?
[09:02] <pippin> apokryphos: there shouldn't be anything more than enabling timed login in the gdmsetup
[09:02] <BHSPitMonkey> ho
[09:02] <tenzin_> spec: to find out witch version libstdc++6 is
[09:02] <Drake_> neutrinomass: what is the "proper way" to see what is in a directory owned by root when you are a user with sudo permission without just su as root?
[09:02] <Spec> tenzin_: dpkg -l |grep -i libstdc
[09:03] <graveson> fyrestrtr:general browsing and wget
[09:03] <nickrud> Sivik, the ubuntu method does not allow *all* users to use sudo, only the first one and the ones you do sudo adduser <user> admin
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> MrKeuner: did you edit xorg.conf ?
[09:03] <Triu> realplayer .. anyone ?
[09:03] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/ yes
[09:03] <Spec> Drake_: sudo ls
[09:03] <Skruf> Do any of you know of a decent program to make guitar/bass tabs?
[09:03] <Sivik> nickrud, well, the guy that i was helping said they all were sudoers
[09:03] <BHSPitMonkey> Does the "Alternate" CD install the same packages as the Live CD installer?
[09:03] <neutrinomass> Drake_: I'm not too sure... "sudo ls /blah" ?
[09:03] <fyrestrtr> MrKeuner: any EE in Xorg.0.log ?
[09:03] <graveson> fyrestrtr:i notice ip v6 is enabled ,could this have something to do with it ?
[09:03] <tenzin_> spec: dpkg -l |grep -i libstdc
[09:03] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: Yes, AFAIK
[09:03] <Gyuszk> re
[09:03] <nickrud> Sivik, then the canonical way would to be deluser <user> admin
[09:03] <Spec> tenzin_: yeap
[09:03] <tenzin_> spec: ups.... http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1619/
[09:03] <Sivik> nickrud: ok
[09:04] <fyrestrtr> graveson: no, because its only enabled for localhost. Is this problem on all sites, or just some sites, or what? Could just be that your ISP is having issues.
[09:04] <ompaul> Sivik, read its contents
[09:04] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/  (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel.
[09:04] <BHSPitMonkey> neutrinomass: because I attempted it on my friend's computer, and the result didn't have X/gnome set up
[09:04] <Sivik> ompaul: i don't care
[09:04] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/ (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked.
[09:04] <MrKeuner> what do these mean
[09:04] <Cntryboy> anyone know the differences in sudo and su? do they both log u in as root?
[09:04] <Spec> tenzin_: libstdc is fine
[09:04] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: The result of "ls" (I missed something? )
[09:05] <tenzin_> spec: ok...nice
[09:05] <Cntryboy> i know sudo does, su im not sure about
[09:05] <BHSPitMonkey> neutrinomass: the result of an install using the Alternate CD.
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> MrKeuner: don't know .. have you completely restarted X, or just started gdm again?
[09:05] <neutrinomass> Cntryboy: 'su' doesn't work on Ubuntu by default. Sudo executes a single command, su changes user ...
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: su = switch user
[09:05] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: Maybe it was the server edition ?
[09:05] <graveson> fyrestrtr: i verified with the isp am using the full bandwidth . this is on all sites
[09:05] <MrKeuner> fyrestrtr/ I did ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:05] <BIAF> sudo -s
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> graveson: how are you connected to the internet?
[09:05] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: Or maybe X didn't start ?
[09:05] <Cntryboy> well ive had to install some things as su
[09:06] <NoUse> monkeyan have you read the ATI howto on the wiki?
[09:06] <Cntryboy> from what some webpages told me
[09:06] <Drake_> even though there isn't a "root" per say with ubuntu by default there should be things owned and running as "root", correct?
[09:06] <graveson> fyrestrtr: via a linksys DSL router
[09:06] <Spec> tenzin_: yeah, i need the output of: ldd `which amule`
[09:06] <BHSPitMonkey> neutrinomass: nope, it was the Alternate CD... and when I ran startx, it didn't work
[09:06] <ompaul> Sivik, okay
[09:06] <Spec> tenzin_: i'mma have to do real work soon :-/
[09:06] <Cntryboy> well sudo gives you acces to root, and if you use su then password that switches u to root also
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> graveson: you are getting your IP via DHCP from the router?
[09:06] <Cntryboy> so I don't see what the differences are
[09:06] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: 'command not found' or some random error ?
[09:07] <Spec> Cntryboy: sudo uses your own users password
[09:07] <graveson> fyrestrtr: yes
[09:07] <Spec> Cntryboy: su uses root's password, which, default in ubuntu, is not set, so therefore it is impossible
[09:07] <neutrinomass> Drake_: Correct.
[09:07] <tenzin_> spec: :( ...ok I see
[09:07] <BHSPitMonkey> neutrinomass: no, X's crude wm started up for a second and gave an error, and returned to the console.
[09:07] <Spec> tenzin_: please pastebin: ldd `which amule` :p
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: for su to work, you must already know the other user's password. For sudo to work, you must be authorized to use sudo by an administrator.
[09:07] <Cntryboy> ok thx
[09:07] <BHSPitMonkey> I assumed the Alternate CD would install just like the livecd does... the PC just can't handle the livecd too well, the cd-rom drive is old and slow
[09:07] <Spec> tenzin_: send me a PM with the link, i'll bbs
[09:07] <nickrud> Cntryboy, there are subtle differences in the environment for each. you could try doing each, and in each do env | sort and compare.
[09:08] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, you can, however, sudo su .. but I haven't needed to do that
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> graveson: you are able to resolve domain names and the like correctly? Its just your bandwidth that's the problem?
[09:08] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: It would be nice if we had the error.... "gdm" didn't work? "ls /usr/bin/network-admin" (for example... ) ?
[09:08] <tenzin_> spec: dpkg -l |grep -i lld ?
[09:08] <Cntryboy> kk thx
[09:08] <Spec> tenzin_: no, just do: ldd `which amule`
[09:08] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: It's rather weird. Perhaps  you chose some custom install ? Are you _sure_ it isn't the server edition ?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: with sudo, you are still using your own environment (ie, your own shell variables). When you su, you use the other user's environment varibles. This may sound like gobledygook right now, but its an important difference :)
[09:08] <BHSPitMonkey> neutrinomass: it was a week or so ago, I'm not sure... the point was, it made me think the alternate CD was different from the Live CD install
[09:09] <graveson> fyrestrtr: yes ,domain name reolution is no problem ,it is only bandwidth issues
[09:09] <BHSPitMonkey> neutrinomass: I did the Text Installer in the Alternate CD.
[09:09] <ardchoille> fyrestrtr, true
[09:09] <Draconicus> I want my sound back.
[09:09] <tenzin_> spec: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1620/
[09:09] <nickrud> Cntryboy, doing env | sort is an education in itself also
[09:09] <jahshua> lol @ Draconicus
[09:09] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:09] <neutrinomass> BHSPitMonkey: AFAIK the same packages are installed.... sorry if I can't be more helpful. If you have the iso lying around somehwre you can check it's md5sum and see whether it is server/corrupt ...
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> graveson: hrmm, don't know. Have you tried connecting directly to the net without the router?
[09:10] <Cntryboy> only accounts on here is admin and user
[09:10] <graveson> fyrestrtr: no ,let me try that ,thanks
[09:10] <Draconicus> I did a dapper update, and now ALSA won't output any sound. Nothing seems to think there's anything wrong with ALSA. XMMS and the like play quite happily. They just output no sound.
[09:10] <Drake_> I am not sure why this is showing up in my /var/log/auth.log .....Jun 14 12:17:01 drake CRON[10809] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 14 12:17:01 drake CRON[10809] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> Draconicus: change the output plugin in xmms from alsa to oss.
[09:11] <siriusnova> anyone here running an IBM Thinkpad? Im having issues with suspend and hibernate after last night's kernel update. The system hangs on either, i confirmed that its a bug only in the kernel by switching to the older (23) kernel. Any advice or help?
[09:11] <nickrud> Cntryboy, that gives you sudo -i, sudo -s, su , su - , and sudo env | sort to compare
[09:11] <neutrinomass> Wow... new kernel broke suspend/hibernate on IBM laptops :-/
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: a cron job is running as root.
[09:11] <Draconicus> fyrestrtr: I'd rather go directly through ALSA. Additionally, nothing else outputs audible audio.
[09:11] <crimsun_> Draconicus: pastebin ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && asoundconf list && amixer''
[09:11] <neutrinomass> siriusnova: You can confirm one of the bugs on malone, I see 3 filed within the last hours
[09:11] <neutrinomass> siriusnova: What model ?
[09:11] <Horuzlna> what is the difference between the packages linux-server and linux-image-server ?
[09:11] <siriusnova> neutrinomass - Thinkpad T30
[09:12] <crimsun_> Horuzlna: they're both metapackages; the former depends on the latest of the latter
[09:12] <neutrinomass> siriusnova: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50031
[09:12] <Horuzlna> k
[09:12] <Horuzlna> one other thing...
[09:12] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: is that something that is run by default with an ssh server? or something that was manually done?
[09:12] <siriusnova> neutrino - i filed that bug hehe
[09:12] <siriusnova> neutrinomass - i filed that bug :)
[09:12] <Triu> exit
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: well, its a cron job, so check what you have running in the cron for midnight.
[09:13] <neutrinomass> siriusnova: Oh :) Um... not too sure then... if you take a look you'll see another couple of bugs against thinkpads as well... I don't know how to fix your problem though, sorry
[09:13] <Horuzlna> when I go to update linux-image-server, it automatically installs: linux-image-2.6.15-25-server, and it says +67.3MB... Why would it be +67 megs, if it's an upgrade? Am I ending up with two kernel versions?
[09:13] <siriusnova> neutrinomass - its only in the newest kernel update, what did they change? the 23 kernel works fine :(
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> Horuzlna: its upgrading your kernel.
[09:14] <Horuzlna> but why does it need more space ?
[09:14] <Draconicus> crimsun_: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/asoundconflist
[09:14] <crimsun_> Horuzlna: it's a completely new version. Note the bump in the ABI from 23 to 25.
[09:14] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: it apparently has been running every hour on the 17th minute and first second for days
[09:14] <chapium> There is a keyboard indicator docklet for the gnome panel.. It appears to have layouts for every obscure language out there, but Chinese(mandarin).  Anyone here know how to fix that?
[09:14] <crimsun_> Horuzlna: "completely new version" => incompatible binary changes, /not/ new upstream version (2.6.15->2.6.16)
[09:14] <chapium> this is odd since mandarin is probably one of the most spoken languages in the world
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> chapium: true, but ... very hard to 'computerize' :)
[09:15] <siriusnova> Thinkpad users be warned - upgrading to the newest kernel borks suspend and hibernate
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> chapium: I think you should ask in gnome :)
[09:15] <chapium> oi
[09:15] <chapium> chinese as well as many others is available under scim
[09:15] <Horuzlna> Huh ? completely new version ?
[09:16] <Horuzlna> its the same kernel version!
[09:16] <crimsun_> Draconicus: which card is the default (according to ~/.asoundrc*)
[09:16] <tenzin_> spec: any news...or are you now at work?
[09:16] <crimsun_> Horuzlna: see my explanation above.
[09:16] <Horuzlna> ok, incompatible binary changes... but
[09:16] <visham> hey Sivik sorry if i had offended u
[09:16] <Horuzlna> why does it need to take more space ?
[09:16] <Sivik> no, you didnt
[09:16] <Sivik> i'm just doing about 800 things at once
[09:17] <Horuzlna> why would this new kernel be 67 megs beyond the last one?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Horuzlna: its downloading a zip file, it need somewhere to store that first, then its going to expand it and install a new kernel.
[09:17] <crimsun_> Horuzlna: because it's a completely different kernel. Note the actual ABI bump. It installs into /boot and /lib/modules as the new one. See?
[09:17] <Drake_> are all cron jobs set either in /etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.weekly /etc/cron.monthly /etc/cron.hourly?
[09:17] [troy_s(n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net)]  help
[09:17] <kane77> hi... a question... isn't it possible to make ubuntu display icon in the workspace switcher allways? it displays only when the window is maximized...
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: well, all system-wide ones. Individual user's cron jobs are in their own crontab
[09:17] <gpm> Drake_: /etc/crontab
[09:18] <Warbo> How can I tell GNOME/Nautilus how to open a file without giving it an extension? ("file" recognises it)
[09:18] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I apparently don't have a .asoundrc file
[09:18] <crimsun_> Draconicus: if you don't have ~/.asoundrc*, which card do you intend to use as the default?
[09:18] <Draconicus> crimsun_: The Soundblaster.
[09:19] <gpm> Warbo: nautilus doesn't recognize it now?
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: isn't there something in the context menu for that?
[09:19] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok, so issue: asoundconf set-default-card Live
[09:19] <Warbo> If I don't give XM/Mod/IT/S3M files a file extension then they are not recognised
[09:19] <crimsun_> Draconicus: afterward, pastebin (again) the (new) output from amixer
[09:20] <Warbo> They are recognised internally by, for example, XMMS
[09:20] <edulix> hi !
[09:20] <gpm> Warbo: when i rename avi files and strip the .avi, nautilus still recognizes them...if it doesn't recognize the filetype now...my guess is that it won't...why not just add the extensions?
[09:20] <tenzin_> spec: seams you are gone....or at work...anyway thx
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: could it be a bug?
[09:20] <edulix> I'm trying to reinstall grub using the livecd
[09:20] <edulix> I've mounted the linux partition in /linux
[09:20] <edulix> (hda6, it's ext3)
[09:20] <gpm> edulix: why not just install grub without the livecd?
[09:21] <edulix> gpm: uh ?
[09:21] <Cntryboy> what does this mean:  /home/cd/.setup1104: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cann ot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:21] <edulix> I'm already in the live nevermind..
[09:21] <neutrinomass> gpm: I don't quite understand your problem, but for your information I've found magic file type detection broken in gnome so this may be related
[09:21] <edulix> and then I've done a chroot /linux and after that executed grub
[09:21] <Warbo> gpm: Loads of mod files don't have extensions by default, since they are popular on Amigas and such (actually, many are called "mod.something") and I have a few hundred to rename (and it shouldn't be necessary anyway)
[09:21] <crimsun_> Cntryboy: it means you don't have the 'libgtk1.2' package installed, so install it.
[09:21] <smoofra> i have a question for all you ubuntoians:
[09:21] <gpm> neutrinomass: i think you mean Warbo
[09:21] <Drake_> I have something that looks strange in /etc/crontab ...17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
[09:21] <Cntryboy> crimsun care to explain how?
[09:21] <Cntryboy> apt-get install libgtk1.2?
[09:21] <crimsun_> Cntryboy: sure
[09:21] <Cntryboy> sudo apt
[09:21] <neutrinomass> gpm: Yes , sorry :)
[09:21] <Cntryboy> ok
[09:21] <kane77> hi... a question... isn't it possible to make ubuntu display icon in the workspace switcher allways? it displays only when the window is maximized...
[09:22] <Draconicus> crimsun_: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/asoundconflist2
[09:22] <Scorpmoon> how do I install the 64bit version of fglrx using apt-get ?
[09:22] <edulix> but I get this problem: http://pastebin.com/713613
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: there is actually nothing strange about that :)
[09:22] <Cntryboy> god here we go again
[09:22] <smoofra> if a package isn't present in the ubuntu repositoryies, is getting it from the debian repos possible and/or likely to work?
[09:22] <Warbo> neutrinomass: The only files I have found need extensions are mod, for Nautilus, and MP4 and MOV for Totem (it complains about the codec)
[09:22] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[09:22] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:22] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package libgtk1.2
[09:22] <Cntryboy> that was error.
[09:22] <buyfreexanax> DCC SEND 0123456789penismann
[09:22] <dragos> why i can't acces any partition from live cd ?
[09:22] <orbin> kane77: think that's more of a gnome issue
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> oh geez.
[09:23] <Draconicus> dragos: Can you mount it?
[09:23] <athlon> Anyone here has a wireless device based on RT2561 chipset ? My Digitus 7006-GA is detected by ubuntu but I cant get ip address from DHCP
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> !ops
[09:23] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:23] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: is that what is causing the ssh server to be listening for a root login?
[09:23] <Cntryboy> crimsun still here?
[09:23] <athlon> !ubotu wireless
[09:23] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[09:23] <dragos> nothing happens when it try to enable partitions
[09:23] <apokryphos> fyrestrtr: ?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: where did you get that idea?
[09:23] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Looking?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> apokryphos: see buyfreexanax
[09:23] <tristanmike> apokryphos: "dcc"
[09:23] <athlon> !ubotu rt2500
[09:23] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, athlon
[09:23] <Seveas> fyrestrtr, he was k-lined already
[09:23] <gpm> edulix: iirc, there's an easier way to set up grub...
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> oh
[09:23] <gpm> edulix: hold on a sec
[09:23] <Seveas> freenode staff have an auto-k-line in here for such losers
[09:23] <Drake_> something is running a cron job to listen and I don't know where it is
[09:23] <crimsun_> Draconicus: amixer set 'Front' 80%,80%,on,on && amixer set 'Wave' on && amixer set 'Wave Center' 80% && amixer set 'Wave LFE' 80% && amixer set 'Wave Surround' 80% && amixer set 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on && amixer set 'AC97' 80%,80%
[09:24] <Cntryboy> anyone know what this means? Reading package lists... Done
[09:24] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:24] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package libgtk1.2
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> ah nice :D
[09:24] <edulix> gpm: yes, grub-install, but it fails
[09:24] <Stormx2`> Oh I love you ubuntu <3
[09:24] <gpm> edulix: with the same error?
[09:24] <crimsun_> Cntryboy: it means you don't have the main repository enabled, so enable it.
[09:24] <Stormx2`> I just installed XP and its absolutely infested with viruses and malware already
[09:24] <Seveas> heh
[09:24] <crimsun_> !info libgtk1.2
[09:24] <sysdoc> Sorry to ask again, but not finding what I'm looking for in the wiki. anyone have a link to a grub restore technique for a 2 linux install??
[09:24] <ubotu> libgtk1.2: (The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-18 (dapper), Packaged size: 817 kB, Installed size: 1772 kB
[09:24] <Seveas> Stormx2`, then don't cheat on us 
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: you are asking it to install something that it can't find in the repos. Maybe you misspelled the package name.
[09:24] <siriusnova> is there a howto for compiling your own kernel ?
[09:24] <Spec> bah
[09:24] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. Now what?
[09:25] <edulix> gpm: no, the error is another one more obscure, which means probably the same:  The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[09:25] <ompaul> Stormx2`, and you expected what, praise or sympathy? ;-)
[09:25] <Spec> tenzin_: where's the output? i missed it :p
[09:25] <Stormx2`> Seveas: Im sorry... Its just working with IE and ActiveX componants ya know? Differcult in ubuntu
[09:25] <dragos> why can't i enable any of my partitions  ?
[09:25] <edulix> (and it exists of course)
[09:25] <neutrinomass> siriusnova: I think you can force installation of the old one ...
[09:25] <crimsun_> Draconicus: try playing some music
[09:25] <sysdoc> siriusnova:  ya there is in the forums>howto's
[09:25] <Cntryboy> so how can I enable it in respo?
[09:25] <apokryphos> siriusnova: /msg ubotu kernel compilation
[09:25] <Cntryboy> I thought I went through all this with a program last night
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2`: vmware :)
[09:25] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I just did. No luck.
[09:25] <ompaul> sysdoc, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <Warbo> sysdoc: You have 2 Linuxes? Put one GRUB in a partition and another in the MBR. Chainload the partition from the MBR to access both
[09:25] <Cntryboy> and updated the whole universe list and everything
[09:25] <Stormx2`> fyrestrtr: Oh? I never really understood it. Let me ask ubotu
[09:25] <siriusnova> neutrinomass - im running my old (23) kernel right now and it works fine. i was just wondering if maybe compiling a new kernel would solve stuff as maybe they overlooked something?
[09:25] <kane77> siriusnova, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation
[09:26] <gpm> edulix: yeah...i got that error too.
[09:26] <dragos> all my partitions are inaccesible and i can't enable them
[09:26] <crimsun_> Draconicus: oh, oops. amixer set 'Front' off
[09:26] <edulix> gpm: strange
[09:26] <sysdoc> Warbo: any possible link I could eyeball?
[09:26] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: this is what I am trying to find the source that is causing this Jun 16 15:17:01 drake CRON[21933] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 16 15:17:01 drake CRON[21933] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[09:26] <kandinski> Can anyone help me with sound trouble? Quake2 sound is very choppy for me on Dapper on a Toshiba m200 (Intel 8x0 and ac97)
[09:26] <Cntryboy> crimsun how can I enable this? I'm at synaptic package manager as we speak
[09:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Still nothing.
[09:26] <Warbo> sysdoc: Not off the top of my head, but I have done it before and that was the easiest way I found
[09:26] <Please__> Hi all, please i'm a beginner with linux, i wanna know which distribut i should choose? :(
[09:26] <MenZa> Ubuntu.
[09:27] <crimsun_> Cntryboy: follow the instructions at !repo
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: its the CRON job I think.
[09:27] <Warbo> Please__: If you come in here then people will say Ubuntu :)
[09:27] <kane77> Please__, look at linux.org an choose ubuntu :)
[09:27] <Cntryboy> k
[09:27] <MenZa> Please__: Ubuntu's a good place to start; I started on Ubuntu :)
[09:27] <Spec> tenzin_: there's a few more options to try, i wish i could replicate your error though
[09:27] <crimsun_> Cntryboy: see the query from ubotu
[09:27] <sysdoc> Warbo: ok, but too sure I know exactly how to do this
[09:27] <jenda> Ubuntu won't detect a DVD. It always did this fine, but it's been long since I last tried. Possibly, I even reinstalled the / system to make it Dapper inbetween. Any ideas?
[09:27] <Spec> tenzin_: your ldd is fine though
[09:27] <orbin> just to confirm ... i don't need to uncomment kopt in grub's config for it to take effect?
[09:27] <peanutb> Please_, look at http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
[09:27] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok, use alsamixer instead
[09:27] <ardchoille> Please__, actually, I feel that it is a personal choice. But, Ubuntu is an excellent place to start.
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> jenda: followed that restrictedformats wiki entry on dvds?
[09:27] <Warbo> dragos: Enable? You can mount them with "sudo mount devicename mountpoint" where devicename is /dev/hda1 or something and mountpoint is wherever you want
[09:28] <Cyberai> does anyone know if there is a way to do a dapper drake install from the CD, without booting into the live version on it first? I have a system with a WAY slow CD drive that can't boot up off the live image.
[09:28] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: I was trying to find which cron was causing it to happen and more importantly why is it necessary if it is necessary
[09:28] <crimsun_> Draconicus: make sure anything with 'Wave*' in the Playback perspective (F3) is unmuted
[09:28] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alsamixer controls seem to work. The mic works and I get feedback if I crank the volume, but nothing can output audio playback.
[09:28] <jenda> fyrestrtr: actually, I used easyubuntu. But it's not the codec, I think - it won't even acknowledge there is one in the drive.
[09:28] <Cntryboy> ok back
[09:28] <sysdoc> Warbo: when you say chainload the 2 nd one I guess that is whre I'm a lil lost
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: I think its the anacron job that is checking for other entries to run at the hourly cron.
[09:28] <Cntryboy> !repo
[09:28] <ubotu> Cntryboy: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:28] <Spec> my cat's name isn't mittens :-/
[09:28] <Cntryboy> my cats name is mittens?
[09:28] <Cntryboy> wtf is that lol
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> !repositories
[09:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> there you go Cntryboy
[09:29] <Stormx2`> fyrestrtr: Do I need to buy VMWare?
[09:29] <Cntryboy> !repositories
[09:29] <Draconicus> crimsun_: The only "wave" volume wasn't muted.
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2`: unfortunately, yes. But its well worth it, imho.
[09:29] <Cntryboy> !repositories
[09:29] <crimsun_> Draconicus: also, make sure 'Capture' is muted
[09:29] <crimsun_> Cntryboy: a query was sent to you earlier. Check your messages.
[09:29] <kandinski> Can anyone help me with sound trouble? Quake2 sound is very choppy for me on Dapper on a Toshiba m200 (Intel 8x0 and ac97)
[09:29] <ardchoille> Cntryboy, I believe there is a "time out" on that
[09:29] <Warbo> sysdoc: It's simple, just install GRUB like normal on the MBR (Master Boot Record) which is done with grub-install /dev/hda (for example) and then put another onto a partition with (for example) grub-install /dev/hda1, then just look at the Windows commented entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst (for the MBR GRUB) and copy it to the bottom of the file and give it the right partition (and change it's name :))
[09:30] <Cntryboy> yeah
[09:30] <Cntryboy> well last night I thought I enabled universe and multiverse then updated it
[09:30] <Cntryboy> took forever with this 2.1KB dialup
[09:30] <Stormx2`> fyrestrtr: Want to send me the .tar.gz? ;)
[09:30] <Cntryboy> why do I have to do it again :(
[09:30] <AlienX> ompaul, thanks for the tip, we'll see if that works.
[09:30] <ompaul> AlienX, it should do ;-)
[09:30] <orbin> just to confirm ... i don't need to uncomment kopt in grub's config for it to take effect?
[09:30] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I can't mute it, but it's at 0. If I turn it up I get feedback, naturally.
[09:30] <AlienX> ompaul, cheers :)
[09:30] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: there is nothing in /etc/cron.hourly except a file called .placeholder that simply says # This file is a simple placeholder to keep dpkg from removing this directory
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> do you even need to install grub twice? Just one grub, with an entry pointing it to the right device and kernel lines should do (I think).
[09:30] <Cntryboy> linux is such a pain in my ass
[09:30] <edulix> gpm: what else can i do ?
[09:31] <kane77> Cntryboy, why?
[09:31] <crimsun_> Draconicus: finally, there are three variables that differ between SB Lives (one setting that works on one codec doesn't work with the next across revisions)
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2`: lol at my bandwidth, it'll be obsolete by the time it got to you.
[09:31] <ompaul> Cntryboy, please mind your langauge we would like a G rated channel thanks
[09:31] <Cntryboy> nothing damn ever works right
[09:31] <Warbo> sysdoc: GRUB loads Windows by "chainloading" (letting another bootloader take over), so just follow any Windows instructions but use your partition with GRUB installed to it instead of a Windows partition (this means both GRUBs are seperate and don't conflict)
[09:31] <crimsun_> Draconicus: those are 'AC97', 'External Amplifier', and 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack'
[09:31] <Cntryboy> or I have to do 100 steps to get something working
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: check /etc/crontab
[09:31] <BIAF> cntryboy : better than piles or windows xp stuck up ur rect
[09:31] <Stormx2`> fyrestrtr: XD
[09:31] <crimsun_> Draconicus: I would start by muting 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack'
[09:31] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. I'm glad you know what you're talking about. :)
[09:31] <ompaul> !langauge
[09:31] <ubotu> ompaul: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:31] <Stormx2`> Anyone else with a VMWare .tar.gz? ;)
[09:31] <ompaul> !language
[09:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:31] <Drake_> Cntryboy: Vista is going to be pain when you give up root access to M$ and you don't have a legal leg to stand on when you really read the EULA's
[09:32] <Cntryboy> I dunno biaf I don't have no probs with windows, I'm not knocking linux I like a challege but dang I can't catch a break lol
[09:32] <Spec> Seveas: hey, how do I get ubotu to not include the little "hmm, well..." crap in front of a definition?
[09:32] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. No go. I'll try the others.
[09:32] <ompaul> Stormx2`, go have a look at vmware player it may be useful
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: it takes patience.
[09:32] <Warbo> Drake_: See you in five years (when you've finished reading the EULA) :)
[09:32] <Stormx2`> OK
[09:32] <BIAF> only messing eheh, i was just thinking about how big the xp packaging is..
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> lol Warbo
[09:32] <ompaul> Spec, I will msg you
[09:32] <Spec> keko
[09:33] <Stormx2`> ompaul: That can emulate a windows app yeah?
[09:33] <Cntryboy> patience is hard for me, I'd asume throw pc out window and buy another one lol
[09:33] <kane77> Drake_, what?? is the M$ realy going to do that?? i think that means more people start linux... :)
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Cntryboy: buy a mac then.
[09:33] <rafael> alo
[09:33] <sysdoc> Warbo: Dewd!! Thanks alot for the instructions!! Gawd I hope this works..:)
[09:33] <Cyberai> honestly Cntryboy - its a lot better and easier to have a system you can just let Linux take over. Doing a dual boot system as your first "try it out" configuration is probably not the best idea.
[09:33] <Cntryboy> I have too much testoserone going through my veins
[09:33] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: I see there entries in /etc/crontab # m h dom mon dow user  command 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily 47 6    * * 7   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly 52 6    1 * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly
[09:33] <nickrud> oops, sorry Cntryboy I changed what I was doing in the middle there, that was supposed to be an ubotu link
[09:33] <Draconicus> crimsun_: No combination of mute/unmute seems to make any difference.
[09:33] <Drake_> oops sorry
[09:33] <Warbo> Cntryboy: Why buy another PC? You will just have to start from scratch
[09:33] <Scorpmoon> Ati.com has a specific x86_x64 combined driver for Ati cards, but is that the file I get using apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ??
[09:33] <Cyberai> does anyone know if there is a way to do a dapper drake install from the CD, without booting into the live version on it first? I have a system with a WAY slow CD drive that can't boot up off the live image.
[09:33] <Cntryboy> I have a dual boot
[09:34] <Cntryboy> I have my xp hd mounted
[09:34] <Warbo> Cyberai: There is an alternative install CD which uses text mode
[09:34] <wweasel> Hey, anyone know much about fonts in Linux? I imported some from my windows partition, but they don't have the variations (Windows doesn't really require them). Linux does, so I can't use bold/italic with them.  Can I create the required font variations from the base font? I know OO.o is doing this automatically.
[09:34] <rafael> How can I access the other hd?
[09:34] <ompaul> Cyberai, get the "alternate" cd and burn it
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: your log entry mystery is from the first crontab entry, that executes every 17 minutes.
[09:34] <Cntryboy> let me go read that respo site again
[09:34] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok, stupid question: Are your speakers/headphones plugged into the SB Live's line-out jack?
[09:34] <Cntryboy> brb
[09:34] <Cyberai> thanks Warbo
[09:34] <Cntryboy> I need a joint to
[09:34] <dust> i just built an external drive, nothing pops up when i plug in the usb cable. it isn't recognized in places>computer, but it does appear in system>admin>discs. any advice?
[09:34] <Cyberai> thanks ompaul
[09:34] <Warbo> Cntryboy: You have XP on your machine? In that case do throw it out :)
[09:34] <orbin> Scorpmoon: no. the ati.com one is proprietary....whereas i think the ubuntu fglrx driver is open
[09:34] <Cntryboy> lol warbo
[09:34] <rafael> How can I access the other hd?
[09:34] <Cntryboy> gotta mount it rafael
[09:35] <rafael> can anyone helpme?
[09:35] <NoUse> orbin fglrx == proprietary
[09:35] <rafael> how?
[09:35] <sysdoc> lol, Warbo
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> rafael: well, first you have to mount it.
[09:35] <Drake_> kane77: well you essentially have to give up root access with the "trusted computing" model and the whole drm
[09:35] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Of course not. They're in the speaker output, which is technically a line out, but not the one that matters. Regardless, line out is not muted, and would output anyway. Again, the sound worked before I updated.
[09:35] <Stormx2`> Does anyone here use anything else for emulating windows apps, other than WINE or WMWARE?
[09:35] <mattikoo> What packages I must install if configure-script shows checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:35] <Scorpmoon> so how do I make sure I get the 64bit version??
[09:35] <pike_> dust: if you 'ls -t /dev | head' it should show a device like sdb1 or sda1
[09:35] <orbin> NoUse: oh, i see.  even the ubuntu driver?
[09:35] <Spec> So is encryption the only way to secure information from the root account?
[09:35] <DarthMorlock> Cedaga
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Stormx2`: you mean, other than an actual windows machine? :P
[09:35] <NoUse> orbin yeah, ubunt can't randomly change the licence of sofware :-)
[09:35] <Warbo> Stormx2`: You can run ReactOS in Qemu (but when I tried the latest version it worked too well. I got a blue error screen :))
[09:36] <Stormx2`> fyrestrtr: Well yeah but my new install of XP is almost unusable.
[09:36] <orbin> NoUse: i thought they "made their own" or something like that.  or am i thinking of something else?
[09:36] <rafael> "error: device /dev/hda2 is not removable"
[09:36] <wweasel> Could someone help me? I'd like to convert an rpm to a deb file. "sudo alien xxxxx.rpm" right? I get a message "Command not found"
[09:36] <Stormx2`> Warbo: ReactOS? Qemu?
[09:36] <rafael> do i have to run it like root?
[09:36] <Draconicus> Scorpmoon: I'd recommend you avoid 64bit Linux at the moment. You'll lose Flash and there are no "w64codecs"
[09:36] <Scorpmoon> lol noone can answer me about 64bit ati drivers
[09:36] <NoUse> orbin you are thinking of the 'ati' driver
[09:36] <Stormx2`> Scorpmoon: Sorry :(
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> rafael: hda2 is your hard disk.
[09:36] <NoUse> orbin that is open
[09:36] <rafael> yes
[09:36] <Scorpmoon> Draconius, avoid Ubuntu x64 ?
[09:37] <ompaul> wweasel, so what is the xxxxxx we may have that as a .deb that your not spotting off the mark
[09:37] <orbin> NoUse: right. ok
[09:37] <jenda> fyrestrtr: now it works... thanks. Strange...
[09:37] <Warbo> Stormx2`: Qemu is an emulator (a FULL emulator, WINE and VMWare are not) and ReactOS is a Free replacement OS for Windows (shares a lot of code with WINE)
[09:37] <Spec> Draconicus: you can run x64 and just use those things in a 32bit chroot or emulate 32bit i think
[09:37] <NoUse> orbin which supports Radeon 8500 and below I believe
[09:37] <pike_> wweasel: sudo apt-get install alien
[09:37] <Cyberai> Stormx2`, try installing Vista, it rendered the fastest PC in my company (3ghz, 2gb ram, 128 vid card) into the worlds most expensive doorstop.
[09:37] <dust> pike_, it shows an sda.
[09:37] <Draconicus> Spec, yeah, but that's slower.
[09:37] <Scorpmoon> Spec, without any hazzle you can emulate 32bit?
[09:37] <Scorpmoon> oh
[09:37] <ompaul> wweasel, alien is a very dangerous program, if you don't know what your doing it can and will break your computer in strange and new ways
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> Cyberai: what did you expect? Its beta.
[09:37] <wweasel> Scorpmoon: I second the recommendation you stick to 32 bit. I have a 64 bit cpu too, but it was too much of a PITA to get working.
[09:37] <Stormx2`> Cyberai: rofl
[09:37] <Spec> slower than 32bit or slower than 64bit?
[09:37] <Scorpmoon> 2 years after buying my amd64, i still can't use it properly :(
[09:37] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok, reset 'External Amplifier' and 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' to both be unmuted
[09:37] <wweasel> pike_: thanks
[09:38] <Warbo> NoUse: I think it supports all ATI cards, but the accelerated, open "radeon" driver only supports a few
[09:38] <rafael> ?
[09:38] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: the command being run by cron is "run-parts" just like the other jobs are running a command called "test"?
[09:38] <kane77> have you ever noticed on dual boot machine that windows is jealous??? it is!! when i restart and choose windows funny things happen... like my theme changed... :)))
[09:38] <Stormx2`> Warbo: How should I install it all?
[09:38] <Cyberai> fyrestrtr, From what i'm hearing, we can't expect it to get much better with a final release
[09:38] <dust> pike_, what do i do now?
[09:38] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Okay. They're unmuted, and AC97 is at 0
[09:38] <crimsun_> Draconicus: does the inaudible state change if you unmute and adjust 'Headphone'?
[09:38] <nickrud> Scorpmoon, edgy is supposed to have perfect i386 emulation on x64 ;)
[09:38] <pike_> dust: i would just do this: sudo mkdir /media/whatever and then: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/whatever assuming the drive is a fat partition
[09:38] <troy_s> Spec: There have been some reports that running in native 64 bit mode let's the 32 bit emulation run faster.
[09:38] <crimsun_> Draconicus: 'AC97' should be at, say, 100%
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Cyberai: that's something else. fwiw, I had no problems when beta testing vista on my laptop, my desktop, and one of my server machines.
[09:38] <NoUse> Warbo "radeon" has been incorporteed into "ati" but you are right
[09:38] <rafael> fyrestrtr, ?
[09:38] <wweasel> how is alien dangerous? could I get a second opinion on this? is alien "a very dangerous program"?
[09:38] <Scorpmoon> i'm gonna keep with x64, and hope for the best
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> rafael: missed your question.
[09:38] <ompaul> !alien
[09:38] <Spec> !alien
[09:38] <ubotu> hmm... alien is [rpm]  the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien. But first, look for a native ubutu deb.
[09:39] <Warbo> Stormx2`: If you have a Windows license you may as well install Windows in Qemu (and also use the kqemu acceleration driver, which is not FLOSS but doesn't cost anything) I will find the Wiki page
[09:39] <troy_s> wweasel: Migrating anything from one package system to another risks breaking.
[09:39] <nickrud> wweasel, alien is a very dangerous program
[09:39] <Warbo> !qemu
[09:39] <dust> pike_, it doesn't have a partition yet.
[09:39] <ubotu> [qemu]  an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Drake_: yes, but its running as root, so that's why there is a root session login.
[09:39] <ompaul> who cahnged that!
[09:39] <Warbo> !kqemu
[09:39] <pike_> dust: a new drive?
[09:39] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[09:39] <nexis> anyone had any success with getting a cisco aironet 350 into rfmon mode correctly on a 2.6 kernel?
[09:39] <rio_> wweasel: I don't think it's "dangerous". It might just give you a non-working package, and you can remove it
[09:39] <Warbo> !qvm86
[09:39] <ubotu> [qvm86]  an open-source alternative to the proprietary !KQEmu "accelerator module" for !QEmu. See http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qvm86/
[09:39] <ompaul> alien is not a good idea there was a *warning* with it
[09:39] <ompaul> Seveas, ^^
[09:39] <Spec> alien's not all that bad :p
[09:39] <nickrud> ompaul, it was like that when I added the bit about looking for the ubuntu deb
[09:39] <dust> pike_, yeah, just assembled.
[09:39] <Spec> it should have a warning though
[09:40] <turisoft> join
[09:40] <Seveas> ompaul, ugh, /me continues working on ubotu-ng
[09:40] <biaf_> hi
[09:40] <wweasel> Alright. honestly, if it gives me a broken package, oh well.
[09:40] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: is that something that is default on an ubuntu install or something that has been added manually?
[09:40] <BIAF> hey get off my box
[09:40] <ompaul> Seveas, is there any by rote task I can do for you on that?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> its default
[09:40] <biaf_> ok sorry
[09:40] <pike_> dust: do 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sda' that will open cfdisk and you should be able to create a partition. for a usb drive you probably just want one big partition
[09:40] <Seveas> ompaul, pray
[09:40] <danfg> what is the equivalent of GSpot (http://www.headbands.com/gspot/) for Linux? it's used to give lots of detailed info on video files, like codecs, integrity, etc.
[09:40] <Spec> so, does anyone run Ubuntu here?
[09:40] <gpm> edulix: any luck?
[09:40] <ompaul> Seveas, hehe
[09:40] <toastie> hey
[09:40] <Seveas> Spec, of course not
[09:40] <NoUse> Spec in #ubuntu, never!
[09:40] <Spec> didn't think so :-/
[09:40] <Seveas> "There is no Ubuntu"
[09:40] <gpm> edulix: my box freezes up when i try grub-install now...
[09:40] <toastie> does anyone know how to swap the screen positions on an ATI dual head?
[09:40] <edulix> gpm: yes!
[09:41] <danfg> Spec: what is ubuntu?
[09:41] <gpm> edulix: what'd you do?
[09:41] <sysdoc> lol
[09:41] <Warbo> danfg: Mplayer has an option to do that (I forget it though)
[09:41] <Cntryboy> okay i'm pissed
[09:41] <Spec> danfg: some sort of weird african word
[09:41] <dust> pike_, okay. i'll give that a try. thanks.
[09:41] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Nothing changes. I'll have you know that these settings in alsamixer worked fine before the update. I don't understand why they wouldn't work now.
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> danfg: if you run mplayer from the command line, it will give you most of what you really never wanted to know about that porn vid you downloaded :P
[09:41] <Cntryboy> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't show any of the respo. I added yesterday and then updated them
[09:41] <edulix> gpm: geometry (hd0) told that /dev/hda6 is (hd0,6) (instead of (hd0,5) as usual  )
[09:41] <danfg> Spec: did you just curse me in... in... African!?
[09:41] <Cntryboy> its like the crappy default
[09:41] <crimsun_> Draconicus: the upgrade from Flight 6, I presume?
[09:41] <Cntryboy> al;kfdj
[09:41] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Yep.
[09:41] <Spec> danfg: quite possibly
[09:41] <Stormx2`> Warbo, got it.
[09:41] <toastie> anyone?... anyone?... ..bueller?.. bueller?... anyone?...
[09:41] <NoUse> Cntryboy which repos has you added?
[09:41] <crimsun_> Draconicus: and a Dapper live cd is also inaudible?
[09:41] <toastie> screen positions?
[09:41] <gpm> edulix: aha
[09:42] <danfg> fyrestrtr: i want to know a lot, and it's not exactly porn, it's the sopranos :)
[09:42] <ompaul> !patience
[09:42] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[09:42] <crimsun_> Draconicus: I committed a /lot/ of changes between Flight 6 and the current -25- kernel
[09:42] <Draconicus> crimsun_: It would take me about 20 minutes to be able to tell you that.
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> danfg: ah, softcore :P
[09:42] <danfg> yes
[09:42] <pike_> dust: after  creating the partition you still need to format it so .. after you make changes in cfdisk and select 'write' then 'quit' do : 'sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1'
[09:42] <Draconicus> crimsun_: You're a developer? That explains your knowledge. :P
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> I have a few episodes of sopranos here too. mplayer is your best bet.
[09:42] <Warbo> Stormx2`: To use the kqemu (or qvm86 which I have never used) accelerator you must compile from source. It is pretty easy, but requires a few tricks. PM me if you want me to talk you through it
[09:42] <gpm> edulix: cool. well, i guess i'll just stick with lilo for now...my problem seems to be bigger
[09:42] <Symmetria> lo all
[09:42] <Cntryboy> nouse well the ones that are there are all enabled
[09:42] <Symmetria> hrmmmm dont suppose there are any of the kernel developers in here?
[09:43] <Cntryboy> but I got a biggg list of pastebin yesterday and then updated all of them, which took me 4 hours
[09:43] <Cntryboy> to download
[09:43] <Cntryboy> off
[09:43] <toastie> gah
[09:43] <Symmetria> heh, if there are any kernel developers around that work with the networking code, drop me a message, *SERIOUS* bug in 2.6.16
[09:43] <toastie> so noone knows? :(
[09:43] <Warbo> Cntryboy: If you add to many repos then you may get an error "dynamic mmap ran out of room" (well, this used to happen but I haven't seen it in a while)
[09:43] <NoUse> !tell Cntryboy about repos
[09:43] <Symmetria> but before I report it I'd like to talk over it with someone
[09:43] <Drake_> Stormx2`: there is an entire article about running kqemu in linux journal online
[09:44] <edulix> gpm: but now I'm getting other error
[09:44] <NoUse> Cntryboy you can just replace it with the one ubotu just sent
[09:44] <Cntryboy> I didn't add too many
[09:44] <DarthMorlock> !bug reports
[09:44] <ubotu> DarthMorlock: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:44] <NoUse> Cntryboy the packages will still be there
[09:44] <Cntryboy> god my head is going to explode lol
[09:44] <Cntryboy> brb going to get a joint
[09:44] <Cntryboy> lol
[09:44] <Warbo> Cntryboy: Make it a knuckle
[09:44] <toastie> soooo ati dual head screen positions?
[09:44] <dust> pike_, do i want primary or logical partition?
[09:45] <pike_> dust: assuming you just want one big partition just make it a primary
[09:45] <Cntryboy> you know each time I have a new task with a program or anything its always something
[09:45] <Cntryboy> haha brb god I need some time out
[09:45] <danfg> fyrestrtr: thanks btw
[09:45] <pike_> dust: there is a much easier way for you to do this within gnome prob but im not familiar with it
[09:46] <DarthMorlock> Which is better swap file or swap partion?
[09:46] <LjL> most people use a partition
[09:46] <Draconicus> crimsun_: So, excluding the live cd plan, what else can we do to approach this?
[09:46] <gpm> edulix: what's that?
[09:46] <danfg> brb
[09:46] <MisterN> DarthMorlock: swap partition is the usual choice.
[09:46] <dust> pike_, i'm happy that it is getting done.
[09:46] <DarthMorlock> yes but which is better?
[09:47] <LjL> it doesn't really matter, as long as it's contiguous
[09:47] <crimsun_> Draconicus: I need to know if the live cd (pristine configuration) has inaudible sound for you, so we can binary-search backward from there
[09:47] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. I'll go download, burn, and reboot into one. Give me 30 minutes.
[09:47] <DarthMorlock> nm i'll ask elsewhere
[09:48] <wardjame> Has anyone here had any experience with Dapper and User Mode Linux?  I'm thinking of using Dapper to make a development box with several differnt setups.
[09:48] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok
[09:48] <LjL> DarthMorlock: i'm sure there's better things to worry about on a computer than whether a swap partition or a swap file would give a 0.1% speed improvement.
[09:48] <Drake_> fyrestrtr: that can't be a good idea to be running a cron job listening for a root ssh connection, can it?
[09:48] <DarthMorlock> wasnt asking about speed
[09:49] <LjL> then what else?
[09:49] <ompaul> wardjame, consider xen, uml is not in dapper afik as it got dropped from debian and thus ubuntu
[09:49] <Kootaphor> Does any one have any ideas for fixing a slow Broadcom wireless connection showing up at "eth1" after a fresh install?
[09:49] <wweasel> Can someone help me please, if you know. This kinda spec. knowledge.  I am trying to import my favourite fonts from Windows. Unfortunately, not all of them have the font family, which isn't necessary in Windows, but is in Linux apparently. What to do? Can I build a family based on a single font? Something else?
[09:49] <ompaul> wardjame, it will be back for edgy
[09:49] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I can't seem to find a link to the LiveCD on the main site...
[09:49] <dust> pike_ so i tried  mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 and it said that it didn't exist, so i tried  mkfs.vfat /dev/sda and now it says 'will not try to make file system on full-disk device...
[09:49] <nickrud> DarthMorlock, I'd guess partitions are supposed to be better, otherwise all the partitioning guides would say files
[09:49] <Ayabara> I'm pretty sure that my inspiron laptop get _much_ hotter in ubuntu than in xp.
[09:49] <Spec> wweasel: are they truetype fonts?
[09:49] <DarthMorlock> nm i'll go ask in somewhere else
[09:49] <nexis> anyone had any success with getting a cisco aironet 350 into rfmon mode correctly on a 2.6 kernel?
[09:49] <wweasel> Spec: yes.
[09:49] <Spec> wweasel: have you read the fonts page about ms truetype fonts? :p
[09:49] <Spec> !fonts
[09:49] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:50] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu? It's the normal (graphical installer) option
[09:50] <Warbo> !eagleusb
[09:50] <ubotu> it has been said that eagleusb is for USB modems like the Sagem F@st800 which need the eagle-usb driver. The current eagle-usb packages are broken, but the driver can be installed with this guide http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem/EagleUsb
[09:50] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Just regular Ubuntu. What do you mean? The Live CD and regular CD are now combined?
[09:50] <wweasel> Spec: that isn't what I am asking. I have the MS Truetype fonts. I want my favourite fonts, ex: Lucida Handwriting, Cambria, Candara...they aren't families (don't have bold and italic variations), or I don't have the whole family.  Linux requires it.
[09:51] <Draconicus> regular=install
[09:51] <pike_> dust: ok do sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and make sure your partition is still showing up if it is quit out and lt -t /dev | head one more time and you should see a sda1 or sdb1 or something like that
[09:51] <nickrud> probably asking on the kernel list would be definitive
[09:51] <Spec> wweasel: ah, i don't know then :-/
[09:51] <jenda> OK, now when i try to play the DVD, it gets choppy at times and always throws a "can't read from source, not enough rights or no disk in drive" error after about a minute of playback.
[09:51] <LjL> draconius: yes they are
[09:51] <crimsun_> Draconicus: the graphical installer is on the live cd; the text-based installer is on the alternate cd
[09:51] <LjL> Draconicus: yes they are
[09:51] <Warbo> !dma
[09:51] <pike_> dust: you have to write changes in cfdisk before exiting or it wont actually make the changes
[09:51] <Draconicus> LjL: Neat! :D
[09:51] <ubotu> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[09:51] <Ashtonian> In ubuntu, is it possible to manage different partitions with the ntsc format?
[09:51] <wweasel> Spec: it really is specific knowledge :(
[09:52] <wweasel> spec: thanks though
[09:52] <Warbo> Ashtonian: NTSC is a TV format. NTFS is a partition format with limited support in Linux
[09:52] <LjL> mount -t pal /dev/tv
[09:52] <Ashtonian> Warbo: yes, sorry for the typo.
[09:52] <jenda> Ashtonian: barely. NTFS support is limited/experimental - if that's what you meant.
[09:52] <CountDown> Anyone know when pygame 1.8 will be available for Dapper?
[09:52] <ic56> LjL: :-)
[09:52] <Warbo> Ashtonian: You can usually do stuff to the partitions (create, remove, resize, etc.) but not files on them (read only)
[09:52] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I've heard that the Desktop CD was broken. Has this been fixed?
[09:53] <glennus> anyone: i have 6.06 on a compaq laptop, and after i installed some gtk updates this morning, gnome is no longer working properly.
[09:53] <Ashtonian> Warbo: is that limited on Ubuntu, or is it universal with all linux distros?
[09:53] <NoUse> glennus have you installed all the updates?
[09:53] <mukund> hi everyone. with respect to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto, someone came around in #gimp asking for a way to map colors into specific slots
[09:53] <MarcN> glennus: what do you mean by properly?
[09:54] <glennus> NoUse: i've done apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.
[09:54] <Warbo> Ashtonian: That is universal. As soon as any progress is made most distros incorporate it.
[09:54] <NoUse> glennus and it doesn't say any packages are being held back?
[09:54] <mukund> a new GIMP plug-in was written for this which is in current GIMP CVS.. it'd be nice if this wiki page is updated to mention it
[09:54] <glennus> MarcN: basically, all i get is wallpaper.
[09:54] <sladen> mukund: it would be useful to drag them around, yes
[09:54] <mukund> it allows one to modify the colormap
[09:54] <mukund> sladen: 1 sec
[09:54] <glennus> NoUse: i don't believe so, let me double check quickly.
[09:54] <Drake_> this is saying to run the command "run-parts" with the argument --report every 17 minutes of every hour of every day of every month? 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[09:54] <mukund> sladen: http://www.mukund.org/files/archive/2006/06/16/rearrange-colormap.png
[09:54] <sladen> mukund: Can you click 'edit' on the wiki page and add details for that plugin---it'll make people's lives easier
[09:54] <mukund> it's in CVS now
[09:55] <BIAF> guys how do i put the windows down on this ubuntu
[09:55] <Ashtonian> Warbo: what partition format can both Windows and Linux read/write to?
[09:55] <mukund> sladen: i don't have an account.. i don't even use ubuntu.. i tried to help an ubuntu guy out, that's all :)
[09:55] <Warbo> mukund: That's goo news. I used to rely on "select by color" and gradual hops around the pallate (along with a Gedit window open to keep the hex values for the colors in)
[09:55] <Warbo> mukund: good
[09:55] <Spec> wweasel: there is probably a way to get linux to ignore it, not sure where you'd go to read up on docs :-/
[09:55] <sladen> mukund: yes, but you're also the person with all the information and URLs to be able to add it
[09:55] <glennus> NoUse: all zeros, no uninstalled upgrades.
[09:55] <NoUse> glennus ok
[09:56] <sladen> mukund: if you click edit, you'll get a confirmation email and should be able to edit immediately after clicking on that
[09:56] <mukund> ok let me try..
[09:56] <sladen> mukund: it's the same one for launchpad/shipit if you've used either of those
[09:56] <Warbo> Ashtonian: Fat32
[09:56] <crimsun_> Draconicus: it's broken for some users who attempt to resize NTFS partitions, but it's not an issue in this case since you just need to boot the live cd, set the default sound card, and test whether volume is audible.
[09:56] <glennus> NoUse: i don't get any launchers or menus on the panels, and i can't really do much of anything except stare at the wallpaper.
[09:56] <Kootaphor> Anyone heard about severe slowness problems with Wireless networking after installing dapper (where breezy was just fine?)
[09:56] <Warbo> Ashtonian: There is an ext2 driver for Windows which you can install too (I forget the ubotu command)
[09:56] <glennus> any ideas?
[09:56] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Okay.
[09:56] <orbin> BIAF: minimize them? :P
[09:57] <BIAF> hehe
[09:57] <Drake_> I am trying to find out where the cron job is being run that would cause my ssh server to be listening every 17th minutes of every hour for a connection from root and I can't seem to pin down what specific cron job is causing it and why it should be doing so
[09:57] <orbin> !explore2fs
[09:58] <orbin> it's that one. ubotu pms to avoid flooding
[09:58] <wweasel> Spec: it's not something i need ignored. It's something it wants. Let me explain. Most fonts come with "sub-fonts". Separate font files with bold, italic, etc. characters. Windows doesn't need these, it seems to create bold fonts by itself. In fact, OO.o is doing this in Linux. But other apps aren't. I can't use bold or italic with the fonts I imported that don't have the whole family.
[09:58] <Ashtonian> Warbo: ok, so lets say I have a separate partition for media files that does not have an OS installed on it, either a fat32 or ext2 partition format, I will be able to read/write from both Linux and Windows?
[09:58] <Warbo> orbin: Cheers
[09:58] <Warbo> !tell Ashtonian about explore2fs
[09:58] <pike_> Ashtonian: most people make those fat32 just to be safe
[09:58] <Spec> wweasel: oh, but you can use the fonts, without bold/italic?
[09:58] <Warbo> Ashtonian: Correct
[09:58] <Drake_> fyrestrtr said that it was being run by something in the crontab but I haven't been able to pin down what is actually calling that particular command to be done
[09:59] <wweasel> Spec: correct.
[09:59] <Spec> wweasel: sorry, don't know what to do =p
[09:59] <Spec> wweasel: i thought it wouldn't be able to use those fonts because it lacked bold/italic ness
[10:00] <Cntryboy> bbl guys too stoned to sit up straight
[10:00] <Ashtonian> Warbo: thank you!
[10:00] <Cntryboy> going to lay down and read my medical txt books
[10:00] <Warbo> Just noticed the minimum specs for Vista. 800MHz CPU, I though wow that's small. 512MB RAM, woah! I don't have that much on this 2.4GHz machine!
[10:00] <dust> pike_, ls doesn't seem to recognize that the partition exists and when i write it i get this warning: WrNo primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this.le.
[10:01] <Warbo> dust: Partitions can have bootable flasg, which say whether you can boot them or not. You can change this is fdisk
[10:01] <orbin> yeah, that's what you wanna hear from a future doctor
[10:01] <wweasel> Spec: no, i just can't choose bold or italic in the formatting options. I can however within OO.o. which is odd, to me. I don't know why
[10:01] <tenzin_> spec: aye :)
[10:01] <Warbo> flags
[10:01] <Spec> tenzin_: works? o.O
[10:02] <Raskall> will the server kernel give me better SATA performance?
[10:02] <tenzin_> spec: naaa.... ://
[10:02] <Spec> damn
[10:02] <pike_> dust: you should be able to toggle the bootable flag in cfdisk try that and write again
[10:02] <tenzin_> spec: yeah...cant download anything...sucks
[10:02] <Spec> tenzin_: try using frostwire or limewire
[10:02] <tenzin_> spec: you dont know a other possibility?
[10:03] <tenzin_> are they in the rep?
[10:03] <BIAF> Drake : does any info show up in the admin, services area? if ur using gui that is
[10:03] <rogston>  /server irc.chatspike.net
[10:03] <Spec> tenzin_: not that i know of
[10:03] <rixxon> i want to share files with cell phones over IR. i've gotten as far as getting irdadump to show "20:03:02.265707 xid:rsp 8b0d3aed < 00004f16 S=6 s=3 Nokia 3200 hint=b125 [ PnP Modem Fax Telephony IrCOMM IrOBEX ]  (27)" when my cell phone is in front of my ir port... but how to start exchange files?
[10:03] <rogston>  /SERVER irc.chatspike.net
[10:03] <rigonatti> does anyone familiriarized wth VmWare ?
[10:03] <NoUse> rogston don't put a space before /server
[10:04] <dust> pike, this time it says that it wrote the table but that the re-read and i should reboot to update.
[10:04] <rigonatti> I need to recognized my Sata Drive in Ubuntu with a Guest OS
[10:04] <calisee> anyone know the aticonfig command to get rid of dual head
[10:04] <Warbo> Has anyone else noticed a problem when selecting a custom icon for a launcher? It seems like entering a location is pressing enter after every character typed into the location bar
[10:04] <rigonatti> recognize
[10:04] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Even the newbie-intimidating directory index mirror with no convenient HTML file estimates almost 40 minutes for the download. This could take a long while.
[10:04] <pike_> dust: ok quit out and try sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 again hopefully it should work
[10:04] <tenzin_> spec:  but thx anyway for your help :)
[10:05] <mukund> added: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:05] <Warbo> rigonatti: Linux should do all of the hardware stuff I think and VMWare treats it like a normal disk
[10:05] <Warbo> rigonatti: (I think)
[10:06] <kdingo> i think supertux has given me rsi
[10:06] <Warbo> kdingo: lol
[10:06] <calisee> anyone know the aticonfig command to get rid of dual head
[10:06] <rigonatti> Warbo  I thougth too ...but has just the virutal Disk (used to install VWare Guest)... then you have to add a dsik ( I think) but doesnt work ...and I didnt find any clue even in vmware( terrible) site
[10:06] <sladen> mukund: ooh, thank you.  I'm sure alot of people will be very grateful!
[10:07] <erisco> Heya, I am still having difficulties with my samba server... I am trying to connect to my network but I cannot find out how.
[10:07] <erisco> I need to be able to share with windows computers..
[10:07] <sladen> erisco: remove the "WORKGROUP"
[10:07] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok, I'm here periodically (at work atm); I have a teleconference in a few minutes that will last for ~20 mins; ping me in query if I don't respond in 5 minutes
[10:07] <mukund> sladen: good luck
[10:07] <erisco> okay..
[10:07] <dust> pike_, it still says that it doesn't exist.
[10:07] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Okay.
[10:08] <Gianina> ciao
[10:08] <Warbo> rigonatti: I know that allowing virtualisers or emulators access to real hardware can be dangerous, but I have personally had Qemu running using my real HD by giving it "-hda /dev/hda" so I don't see why it should be hard
[10:08] <Gianina> ierfewhbvrgb
[10:08] <Gianina> fgbhjtrobn
[10:08] <Gianina> Allo
[10:08] <erUSUL> !tell Gianina about it
[10:09] <erUSUL> !it
[10:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:09] <erisco> sladen I am having a problem, it will not let me use sudo to access the configure file now?
[10:09] <Gianina> Allo!!
[10:09] <erisco> sladen, it won't open the text editor
[10:09] <LjL> Gianina: hello. we speak english here
[10:09] <rigonatti> Warbo I have a SATA Partition just for backup files (and to import/export between OSs), BTW I dont know Qemu ...its a VmWare tool?
[10:09] <Gianina> Gianina io italiano
[10:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Qemu does what VMWare does, but for free :P
[10:10] <LjL> !qemu
[10:10] <ubotu> well, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[10:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and under the GPL
[10:10] <erUSUL> !it
[10:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:10] <TLE> Hi. I've configured a wide desktop enviroment(I'm using the fglrx drivers) to strech over on to my TV so my girlfriend can watch movies while I custom my Box, but now the problem is that I can't seem to control where new application are placed. I never want anything to open on the right part of the desktop which is the tv, is there anyway I can prevent this from happening ?
[10:10] <jenda> how can I find out which region my DVD player is set to?
[10:10] <eobanb> !nvidia
[10:10] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:10] <Gianina> Peccato
[10:10] <Gianina> Come stai
[10:10] <Ramunas> hello
[10:10] <erUSUL> Gianina: read what ubotu told you go to #ubuntu-it
[10:10] <Warbo> rigonatti: Qemu is another emulator/virtualiser (not as fast as VMWare apparently) and I have given that the appropriate devices from /dev, so I think VMWare may be able to do the same (I have only ever used VMWare Player and I didn't like it much)
[10:10] <glennus> anyone: anyone have any ideas on what might make the gnome panels stop working and/or how i might be able to fix this?
[10:10] <LjL> Gianina: *are* you italian at any rate? if you are, join #ubuntu-it, you can speak italian there
[10:11] <pike_> dust: hmm.. try unplugging and replugging in then ls again to see what shows up
[10:11] <Warbo> glennus: "killall gnome-panel"?
[10:11] <erisco> sladen, I will try to figure out what is happening and get back to you
[10:11] <Gianina> Grazzzie
[10:11] <eva_> hello.. can anyone give me a tip how to use a "Motorola SM56" PCI modem with ubuntu?
[10:11] <wweasel> How do I import specific fonts from Windows into Linux? Is it as simple as just copying and pasting them?
[10:11] <Ramunas> i have to log in into remote machine very often, i'd like to set up some kind of alias, so it would login into itself, without needing for me to enter the password.Any suggestions?
[10:11] <Warbo> !fonts
[10:11] <Gianina> qualche italiano qui
[10:11] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[10:11] <BIAF> whats best remote access tool to use,  i just want basic VNC emulation : Krdc or Krfb or just install both?
[10:12] <glennus> Warbo: I'll try that.
[10:12] <gdb> Gianina: Otterrete pi aiuto nella scanalatura di Itallian Ubuntu. Potete ottenere l scrivendo /jump # ubuntu-esso
[10:12] <gdb> er #ubuntu-it :-)
[10:12] <LjL> Gianina: *even if* there were any italians here, they would speak english.
[10:12] <LjL> gdb: oh my god, don't do that again :o)
[10:12] <rigonatti> Warbo Im happy with VmWare too... Btw.... Sata drivers are described as "sda" not "hda" ..then I edit the VT machine..Add a Disk ...chosse local hard drive...and then he shows me all partitions in SATA driver...i Choose what I wanna use ...but dont show me at My Computer Windows on Windows ...I know what I mean ?
[10:12] <Gianina> Cisss
[10:12] <pike_> BIAF: i like freenx..
[10:12] <BIAF> sweet
[10:12] <erUSUL> !tell eva_ about modem
[10:12] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[10:13] <gdb> rigonatti: I have no idea what you're saying.
[10:13] <BIAF> can that be got via add/remove in ubuntu (under unsupported)?
[10:13] <dust> pike_, ok now it appears (as sda1)
[10:13] <linuxboyfriend> i uninstalled apache (1.3) but its still in /etc/init.d, is it fully removed or do i have to do something else?
[10:13] <pike_> dust: ok lets try the sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 again *crosses fingers*
[10:13] <gdb> LjL: Was that pretty butchered? :-(
[10:13] <gdb> LjL: <3 babelfish
[10:13] <LjL> gdb: pretty much, yeah :)
[10:13] <Warbo> rigonatti: It may mean that the Windows SATA driver isn't installed or hasn't started since it hasn't realised the partition is SATA (BTW, make sure you give VMWare the disk /dev/sda and not the partition /dev/sda1 [or whichever yours are] )
[10:14] <erisco> sladen, okay I commented out the workgroup, but nothing seems different
[10:14] <pike_> BIAF: best to see wiki.ubuntu.com about it
[10:14] <gdb> LjL: lol
[10:14] <BIAF> cool
[10:14] <rigonatti> Warbo ... ok...then I checked out the site do SCSI drivers( that VmWare says should work with SATA) but its a .pl file...do u know what I have to do with this file ?
[10:15] <glennus> WTF?!?
[10:15] <Warbo> rigonatti: pl is Perl. Just do "sudo ./filename.pl" and it should go
[10:15] <dust> pike_, it didn't spit out any warnings. so that is a good sign, but it doesn't show up in 'places' or on the desktop.
[10:15] <Warbo> rigonatti: Failing that "sudo perl filename.pl"
[10:15] <glennus> Warbo: get this, right.  When you suggested that I was in the middle of a reboot.  The only change that I could think of was to unplug the charger.  Now everything works peachy keen.  What's up with that??
[10:15] <glennus> Warbo: I didn't even kill the panels.
[10:16] <Warbo> glennus: Maybe a battery monitor applet was effing up the panel
[10:16] <glennus> i'll just pretend it was actually because i reinstalled gnome and nautilus.  Warbo: aye, prolley.
[10:16] <pike_> dust: ok lets try mounting it. you need to make the directory to mount it to.  like sudo mkdir /media/something and then sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/something
[10:16] <pike_> dust: or just unplugg and see if it auto mounts
[10:17] <glennus> Warbo: works fine if i plug it in after startup, though.
[10:17] <NoUse> glennus if you can reproduce that problem, you should report it as a bug
[10:17] <glennus> NoUse: I think that's a good idea.
[10:17] <jo33> anyone know if there's a guide available for install Ruby on Rails in Dapper 6.06?
[10:18] <Scorpmoon> jo33, have you found an IDE or editor with Ruby on rails support?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> jo33: i think its in help.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <rigonatti> Warbo ...sorry its a flp file..do the same ?
[10:18] <Gianina> gianina
[10:18] <erUSUL> jo33: 'sudo apt-get install rails' short isn't it? ;)
[10:18] <jo33> ok, let me check it out.
[10:19] <dust> pike_, it auto mounted! hurrah for everything. thanks for your help.
[10:19] <jo33> ha
[10:19] <pike_> dust: np
[10:19] <jo33> ok so that will install both ruby and the rails framework?
[10:19] <La_PaRCa> !airodump
[10:19] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, La_PaRCa
[10:19] <jo33> or does ubuntu already have ruby preinstalled?
[10:19] <erUSUL> jo33: yes
[10:19] <jo33> sweet!
[10:19] <jo33> ::fires up the terminal::
[10:19] <hazen> anyone know how to make workspace switch "wrap around"? couldn't find info or config for this anywhere..
[10:19] <erUSUL> jo33: it will install rails and all it needs to work
[10:20] <NoUse> jo33 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RubyOnRails
[10:20] <NoUse> jo33 I'm not sure if that has been updated for dapper though
[10:20] <|lostbyte|> Why does my tvtime take so much processing ?
[10:20] <|lostbyte|> It did't on mandriva.
[10:21] <Ackeubu_> j #ai
[10:21] <jo33> *looks* like it might be for breezy.
[10:21] <gnomefreak> NoUse: iirc dapper uses ruby 1.8.4 so it should be fine
[10:21] <IcemanV9> !info rails
[10:21] <ubotu> rails: (MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.1.2-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1723 kB, Installed size: 12820 kB
[10:21] <dust> pike_, what are some good resourses for linux so that i can figure out some of this stuff and someday be knowledgable too? i love ubuntu but if i want to progress i need to know what is going on behind the scenes.
[10:22] <IcemanV9> it is for dapper
[10:22] <jo33> installing rails as we speak.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> IcemanV9: we were talking about the wiki not rails itself
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !info ruby
[10:22] <ubotu> ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[10:22] <IcemanV9> ah. well. pardon me. :D
[10:22] <gnomefreak> jo33: your fine with dappers version of ruby atm
[10:23] <jo33> cool.
[10:23] <gnomefreak> jo33: dont get 1.8.3
[10:23] <gnomefreak> skip it if you can
[10:23] <pike_> dust: the best resource for ubuntu is the wiki or here or forums.ubuntu.com.  the rest of it you kind of learn as you go (and google alot :-) )
[10:23] <gnomefreak> rails wont work with 1.8.3 :(
[10:23] <eva_> no support =(
[10:23] <jo33> just installed the package.
[10:24] <jo33> so dapper comes with 1.8.4 right?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> no
[10:24] <Spec> How do I make it so when I quit vim, it stays on the screen?
[10:24] <jo33> is there a way i can quickly check the version?
[10:24] <eva_> seems like the motorola chipset is only supported on Kernel 2.4 or a specific Mandrake 2.6 kernel..
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jo33: dapper comes with 1.8.2-2 not sure if it was updated or not
[10:24] <La_PaRCa> Anyone know what the airodump homepage is?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> jo33: apt-cache policy ruby
[10:24] <b14ck> i get error 17 at grub load
[10:25] <jo33> installed 1.8.2-1
[10:25] <ulisse> people, what about an iPod that after 3 mins of playing says "impossible to determinate the kind of stream"?
[10:25] <jo33> so i guess i better update that.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> La_PaRCa: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <gnomefreak> jo33: just dont update it to 1.8.3
[10:25] <Sgeo> Hi all
[10:25] <jo33> or i could upgradge to 1.8.4
[10:26] <Sgeo> What's with the new updates?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> jo33: yes that is fine
[10:26] <b14ck> i get grub error 17 can someone help?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: what do you mean?
[10:26] <kane77> how do I make thunderbird my default mail client??
[10:26] <gnomefreak> kane77: system<prefferences>perffered apps
[10:26] <Sgeo> There seem to be a lot of upgrades for GNOME stuff
[10:27] <NoUse> ulisse run 'dmesg' and see if there are lot of I/O errors
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: yes dapper is upgrading gnome to 2.14.2
[10:27] <Sgeo> What's new in 2.14.2?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: if you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade you will see a new kernel too
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: bug fixes
[10:28] <achandra> Hello. Is anyone aware of a bug in dapper for Evolution exchange connector? My setup doesnt allow me to specify a server name.
[10:28] <ulisse> NoUse: yes, i think so, because gtkpod says something about I/O
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: you wont see anything change drastic in dapper no new things added mostly just updates to packages
[10:28] <sloucher> Can I make the machine start up and log in to a user without using a password? You know for a newbie who doesn't know what security is.
[10:28] <arun> ubotu: wxpython
[10:28] <ubotu> arun: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:28] <NoUse> ulisse known bug, are you running the iPod through a USB hub?
[10:28] <Warbo> sloucher: System>Administration>Login Window
[10:28] <Sgeo> And it tried to install the kernel but /boot was out of space
[10:28] <sloucher> thank you sgeo
[10:29] <Sgeo> Hm?
[10:29] <pike_> sloucher: that might be an option in gdmsetup try sudo gdmsetup
[10:29] <Warbo> sloucher: There are two options, log in a user at boot and log in a user after a certain time
[10:29] <BHSPitMonkey> in the Time Zone chooser in ubuntu, why does it say Central time is GMT-5 ? and Eastern is -4, and mountain is -6, and pacific is -7...
[10:29] <arun> has anyone tried installing wxpython2.6 from source on ubuntu
[10:29] <ulisse> NoUse: yes, i think (it's not mine, I translate for a friend who speaks oly italian...)
[10:29] <NoUse> ulisse https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/37163
[10:30] <NoUse> ulisse see if he can run it directly to a USB port on the machine
[10:30] <sloucher> thank you too pike
[10:30] <Codyman> whats the name of that 3rd party app / gui that easily installs ubuntu restricted packages.... i forget the name...
[10:30] <NoUse> ulisse it solved similar problems for me
[10:30] <Warbo> Codyman: easyubuntu
[10:30] <Codyman> warbo: grazi
[10:30] <ulisse> ok NoUse, thank you very much ;)
[10:30] <Warbo> !easyubuntu
[10:30] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:30] <KanRiNiN> is there any graphical tool to edit the grub menu?
[10:30] <kbrooks> !automatix
[10:30] <kbrooks> too
[10:31] <kbrooks> er
[10:31] <steev> anyone here use nagios?
[10:31] <NegativeSpace> Is it possible to watch WMVs?
[10:31] <Warbo> kbrooks: Ha, PM
[10:31] <kbrooks> !tell #ubuntu about automatix
[10:31] <Sgeo> nagios?
[10:31] <steev> if you don't know, then you don't :)
[10:31] <NoUse> !tell NegativeSpace about wmv
[10:31] <Warbo> NegativeSpace: Only if they are not encrypted (and verison 9 or less)
[10:31] <wweasel> KanRiNiN: Not that I know of. have you tried editing the config? it's not hard
[10:31] <Sgeo> What's nagios then?
[10:31] <steev> www.nagios.org
[10:31] <KanRiNiN> where's it located wweasel
[10:31] <Frem> NegativeSpace, We have a wiki.
[10:31] <NoUse> !automatix
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell steev -about anyone
[10:32] <KanRiNiN> I just don't like having a billion kernel choices
[10:32] <wweasel> KanRiNiN: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:32] <NoUse> KanRiNiN you can just remove the old kernels
[10:32] <Warbo> KanRiNiN: Uninstall the "linux-image-version" which you no longer use
[10:32] <NoUse> KanRiNiN it will automatically clean up the boot menu
[10:32] <glennus> NoUse: okay, i can definitely recreate the problem.  where/how can i report this as a bug?
[10:32] <NoUse> !bug
[10:32] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:33] <nickrud> kbrooks, lol, that's innovative
[10:33] <jbirdAngel> hello, how do i set what port i connect to this server at?
[10:33] <NoUse> glennus provude as much specifics as you can
[10:33] <wweasel> KanRiNiN: do what they say. but do check out the menu.lst. It's quite simply.
[10:33] <glennus> NoUse: will do.
[10:33] <test> how can i check which local i am using in the current session
[10:33] <kbrooks> nickrud: ?
[10:33] <NoUse> glennus thanks
[10:33] <nickrud> kbrooks, telling the channel
[10:33] <steev> gnomefreak: ahh, good point... and me, a gentoo developer... i suck. - ok, on to the actual question - i want to install it on my laptop to get used to the ubuntu/debian way of installing/setting up nagios (our servers are using debian) - but since it is my laptop, i want to know, upon install, will it attempt to start it and add it to my startup, or will it just install it (i don't want it to start except when I actually start it up)
[10:33] <glennus> NoUse: no problem, glad i can help.
[10:33] <kbrooks> nickrud: huh?
[10:33] <Raskall> !server-kernel
[10:33] <jo33> another question... on the dapper client, is mysql installed by default?
[10:33] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Raskall
[10:34] <kbrooks> !server
[10:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> nope
[10:34] <nickrud> kbrooks !tell #ubuntu about automatix
[10:34] <IcemanV9> jo33: nope
[10:34] <kbrooks> nickrud: oh
[10:34] <KanRiNiN> thanks
[10:34] <test> so no one know how can i check which local i am using in the current session ;)
[10:34] <jo33> ok, thanks.
[10:34] <steev> test: locale -a
[10:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Actually I don't know, but in the old days server was basically a glorfied Debian install
[10:34] <test> thanx steev :)
[10:35] <steev> test: that's not an ubuntu thing - thats an every linux distribution thing :)
[10:35] <test> steev, i am still learning the command line thanx :)
[10:35] <b14ck> i get grub error 17 can someone help?
[10:36] <steev> so, anyone know? if i install nagios, will ubuntu add it to my startup scripts? (im kind of annoyed with everything it starts up, specially since i've installed bum, and stuff is still starting up after i told it not to)
[10:36] <b14ck> i can't boot anymore except from the live cd
[10:36] <sysdoc> Warbo: U still here?
[10:36] <Warbo> sysdoc: yep
[10:36] <sysdoc> :)
[10:36] <b14ck> can i edit the grub loader somehow?
[10:36] <sysdoc> coO! having a lil problem with setting up this grub to chainload the 2 nd grub
[10:36] <BHSPitMonkey> b14ck: edit the menu entries?
[10:36] <sysdoc> ya got a sec?
[10:36] <Warbo> b14ck: The only GUIs I have found (none in Ubuntu) are old and a little dodgy
[10:37] <Warbo> sysdoc: sure
[10:37] <b14ck> i get error 17 and grub won't load
[10:37] <sysdoc> ok let me get menu.lst open 1 sec
[10:37] <BHSPitMonkey> b14ck: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:37] <pike_> !recover
[10:37] <ubotu> well, recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:37] <pike_> b14ck: ^
[10:37] <b14ck> i made a new ntfs partition under windows (dual bood) and after reboot i get error 17
[10:37] <mobility> anyone here have any luck using their mobile phone as modem??
[10:38] <nickrud> steev, every server I've installed in ubuntu (limited number of course) follows the debian policy of 'if you installed it, you probably want it to run' so start it
[10:38] <b14ck> BHSPitMonkey: k
[10:38] <Warbo> mobility: I have done it before
[10:38] <Raskall> will I get better SATA performance with linux-amd64-server kernel instead of the default amd64-kernel?
[10:38] <BHSPitMonkey> b14ck: do what pike_ said
[10:38] <sysdoc> 123
[10:38] <eclypse> hey all
[10:38] <test> hmm tht is annoying scilab is running perfect on one notebook, display is corrupted on the other and i have no idea why
[10:38] <eclypse> whats the main difference between the 686 kernel and 386?
[10:38] <mobility> Warbo: did you use usbserial kernel module?
[10:38] <nickrud> steev, you might like sysv-rc-conf better than bum
[10:38] <Spec> what is the default mysql user(root?)/password ?
[10:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> blank
[10:39] <LjL> eclypse: none, except that the 686 kernel uses 686 instructions, which should make it kinda faster
[10:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> root and blank
[10:39] <Warbo> mobility: I don't know, I was followinf a guide I found on Google to bind a bluetooth device to a serial port
[10:39] <b14ck> BHSPitMonkey:  what did pike said?
[10:39] <eclypse> interesting
[10:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> SO CHANGE THAT FSCKER NOW!! :P
[10:39] <eclypse> are there any cons to this?
[10:39] <eclypse> like compatability issues etc
[10:39] <NoUse> eclypse no
[10:39] <b14ck> o riight
[10:39] <b14ck> k thanx
[10:39] <eclypse> sweet. I'll try it tonight then
[10:39] <mobility> Warbo, hmm.. what phone you got?
[10:39] <fourat> am having problems with apt-get, it wont upgrade, install, nothing, here's a snapshot : http://pastebin.com/713760
[10:40] <Warbo> mobility: It was a sony ericsson thingy, t10i or something (very confusing)
[10:40] <NoUse> fourat try 'sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a' then try to use apt-get
[10:40] <Raskall> fourat: a bit hard to read in french, but try a "dpkg --configure exim4"
[10:41] <mobility> have done that before.. using rfcomm bind...
[10:41] <gnomefreak> fourat: i cant read that lang. but you can try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:41] <eclypse> whoa
[10:41] <gnomefreak> it looks like depends problems but #ubuntu-fr might beablet o help more
[10:41] <Warbo> sysdoc: You still need help?
[10:41] <freddyubuntu> CAN SOMEBODY please please tell me how to convert an MPEG file to DV ... ? so I can edit it with Kino ?
[10:41] <eclypse> I think I understand now why Ubuntu performs so horribly on my laptop
[10:41] <kane77> did you know that there is ascii art broadcasting of World Cup through telnet???
[10:41] <sysdoc> Warbo: If I undersood you correctly I need to chainload grub on the other partition. That is actually my Ubuntu installation that I need to get back. It is showning as my hda3 in the partition mamager in Mandrive yet it is the last partition on the drive actually hd0,5
[10:41] <freddyubuntu> how to convert MPEG to DV?
[10:41] <eclypse> my hard drive is known as SDA
[10:42] <eclypse> instead of the default HDA
[10:42] <sysdoc> Warbo: yea, I do
[10:42] <gnomefreak> kane77: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[10:42] <eclypse> in the hdparm.conf, it recognised the hard drive as HDA not SDA
[10:42] <eclypse> no bloody wonder its running soo poorly
[10:42] <kane77> gnomefreak, sorry didnt know it existed :)
[10:42] <freddyubuntu> I beg you please answer me
[10:42] <freddyubuntu> i am in so much need
[10:43] <freddyubuntu> how to convert an mpeg video to a DV video ?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> freddyubuntu: when someone knows they will answer you
[10:43] <Warbo> sysdoc: You just need to add a Windows entry to whichever GRUB is on your MBR, then point that Windows entry to your other GRUB's partition (whatever GRUB calls that partition) and change it's name from Windows to GRUB
[10:43] <mrDaniel> i am trying to fix my dsdt-table of acpi, but the intel ASL compiler returns errors that are not explained in http://www.cpqlinux.com/acpi-howto.html#fix_broken_dsdt. now i dont knoe what to do. the errors are this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1622/. do anyone recognize this errors?
[10:43] <sysdoc> Warbo: So I tried this entry in menu.lst> title ubuntu
[10:43] <sysdoc> root (hd0,4)
[10:43] <sysdoc> chainloader +1 and hd0,5
[10:43] <Warbo> sysdoc: Well, to whatever
[10:43] <kane77> freddyubuntu, why do you need to convert it??
[10:43] <NoUse> fourat sorry, thats dpkg --configure -a
[10:43] <freddyubuntu> because Kino just accepts DV files
[10:43] <freddyubuntu> kane77 : because Kino just accepts DV files
[10:44] <eclypse> is it possible to rename a hard drive?
[10:44] <steev> why does boot up manager NOT disable anything in dapper?
[10:44] <sysdoc> Warbo: both say it can't read the fs
[10:44] <steev> this is retarded, i have a laptop, i DON'T fsking need raid services on it
[10:44] <Fenrir> join ubuntu-fr
[10:44] <eclypse> heh
[10:44] <Warbo> sysdoc: I will pastebin something for you...
[10:44] <jo33> to whoever asked about a ruby on rails ide in linux, it looks like there's radrails based on eclipse.
[10:44] <freddyubuntu> Ladies and Gentelman ... I beg you...
[10:44] <eclypse> aye, I'de like to know how to disable raid as well.
[10:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freddyubuntu -about repeat
[10:45] <sysdoc> I'll have to reg the nick I think 1 sec
[10:45] <steev> eclypse: my last experience with debian was in 2000
[10:45] <m0gsi> I would like to know how to disable file system checking on my windows partition
[10:45] <eclypse> steev, I see.
[10:45] <steev> i ran it for 2 years, loved it, but then i moved on to Gentoo
[10:45] <eclypse> steev, do you know if its possible to rename a hard drive? lol
[10:46] <steev> eclypse: is your hd a sata drive?
[10:46] <m0gsi> /etc/fstab ?
[10:46] <eclypse> because it seems like almost every config file in ubuntu recognises my hard drive as HDA when its SDA< so I'm not getting full benefits
[10:46] <Warbo> sysdoc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15832
[10:46] <eclypse> except fstab
[10:46] <sysdoc> ack this irc server is different than the ones I have used in the past, anyone have the reg commands to register the nick?
[10:46] <steev> if its "slow"
[10:46] <steev> you may just need sdparm
[10:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !register
[10:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:46] <m0gsi> oh lol so you want to change the mount point?
[10:46] <eclypse> I had to rename the fstab things so it would actually boot up
[10:46] <m0gsi> lol
[10:46] <freddyubuntu> can somebody at least tell me what is  a DV format ?
[10:46] <freddyubuntu> is DV format the same as AVI ?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> freddyubuntu: why do you want to convert it?
[10:46] <eclypse> steev, what?
[10:46] <m0gsi> Digital video?
[10:46] <steev> hdparm doesn't work with sata drives afaik, and i've never seen a scsi laptop
[10:47] <freddyubuntu> gnomrefreak= because I want to edit it with kino
[10:47] <eclypse> umm
[10:47] <Snowfairy> Are there any iptables gurus about by any chance?
[10:47] <eclypse> how do I tell if my hard drive is SATA?
[10:47] <steev> eclypse: what type of laptop do you have
[10:47] <eclypse> its a Dell Inspiron 6000
[10:47] <Spec> sysdoc: /msg nickserv help
[10:47] <freddyubuntu> what is DV format .... ? is it avi or something ?
[10:47] <steev> you shouldn't have sda for your drive
[10:47] <eclypse> what should it be?
[10:47] <sysdoc> Spec: thx
[10:48] <gnomefreak> freddyubuntu: digital video
[10:48] <Warbo> freddyubuntu: It is uncompressed video I think. You get it on camcorders (digital ones obviously)
[10:48] <ulisse> NoUse: it seems that the ipod is working now! So probably now we have another Ubuntu addicted :)
[10:48] <steev> it *should* be hdaX - afaik, dell inspiron's are IDE (older ones that is, not sure about newer - i have a hybrid 8100/C800)
[10:48] <freddyubuntu> so how I can convert an mpeg to dv ?
[10:48] <steev> afk a sec, gotta image a server
[10:48] <Warbo> freddyubuntu: AVI is just a container anyway. The codec of the AVI is the actual format
[10:48] <gnomefreak> freddyubuntu: cant kino do it?
[10:48] <freddyubuntu> is it even possible?
[10:48] <NoUse> ulisse was it the usb hub fix?
[10:48] <Raskall> hmm.. I am running iozone on my system without any lag in ssh. couldn't do that in breezy. perhaps sata performance is better in dapper?
[10:48] <eclypse> steev, ok
[10:48] <freddyubuntu> no
[10:48] <freddyubuntu> i dont think so
[10:49] <kane77> freddyubuntu, ok here's what I found program caled ffmpeg...
[10:49] <ulisse> NoUse: yes, now it's connected directly to an usb on the motherboard
[10:49] <kallei> i have heard something about something named computer:///   where is this located?  i would like to change the names of my Disks and 'Places'
[10:49] <Trashcan> gedit crashed with very important stuff in the clipboard
[10:49] <Trashcan> any way to recover it?
[10:49] <NoUse> ulisse cool
[10:49] <Trashcan> if i haven't put anything else in the clipboard since
[10:49] <dooglus> Trashcan: the clipboard is global
[10:49] <dooglus> Trashcan: run gedit and paste it
[10:49] <sysdoc> Warbo: thx for the help gone give it a whirl now...
[10:50] <NoUse> ulisse hopefully that will be fixed in edgy but at least it works :-)
[10:50] <freddyubuntu> kane how I can use that program
[10:50] <Trashcan> nothing pastes
[10:50] <steev> back - basically eclypse, it seems like something else is there - pastebin the output of hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[10:50] <freddyubuntu> is it a console based?
[10:50] <Warbo> sysdoc: For minor changes to the menu.lst you can test them in GRUB's console
[10:50] <eclypse> steev, whats this pastebin I keep hearing about? how do I use it?
[10:50] <Snowfairy> If there's anyone experienced with iptables I need help adding some rules to make it track all incoming and outgoing packets but still pass it on to my existing setup...  current iptables script is posted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15833
[10:50] <Warbo> !paste
[10:50] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[10:50] <roger_> how can I install amule in ubuntu. I am new on this
[10:51] <Warbo> roger_: "sudo apt-get install amule" If you have universe
[10:51] <ompaul> !amule
[10:51] <ubotu> ompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:51] <nalioth> Snowfairy: try #iptables
[10:51] <Warbo> !tell roger_ about universe
[10:51] <sysdoc> Warbo: test in console?? ummm, lol ok and I can do that how exactly?
[10:51] <bernier> !tell roger_ about frostwire
[10:51] <bernier> way better :P
[10:51] <roger_> ok I tray
[10:51] <Snowfairy> nalioth, alright, I'll try there :) thanks.
[10:51] <liouncourt> hi
[10:51] <loki505> can someone please answer my question
[10:52] <Warbo> sysdoc: In GRUB press "c" and you get GRUB's console. In there you can type each line of a menu.lst entry (means you don't have to constantly reboot if it doesn't quite work each time)
[10:52] <loki505> how come by screen saver i slow and choppy
[10:52] <liouncourt> i try to instal acceleration for my video card
[10:52] <Warbo> loki505: You need an accelerated 3D driver
[10:52] <loki505> how do i get that
[10:52] <sysdoc> Warbo: oh ok thx...:)
[10:52] <liouncourt> i put thid coman in terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:52] <loki505> i got an nvidia
[10:52] <Warbo> !nvidia
[10:52] <liouncourt> but he ask me for a password
[10:52] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:52] <sysdoc> Warbo: much appreciated
[10:52] <Warbo> sysdoc: np
[10:53] <sysdoc> :)
[10:53] <liouncourt> and do not let me to type anything
[10:53] <sysdoc> lr8
[10:53] <liouncourt> can evreyone help me?
[10:53] <Warbo> liouncourt: Just type your user password and press enter. It doesn'ty show what you type for security reasons
[10:53] <nickrud> liouncourt, it is letting you type, it just doesn't echo your kestrokes
[10:53] <ompaul> !sudo
[10:53] <ubotu> well, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:53] <ompaul> liouncourt,
[10:53] <liouncourt> k
[10:53] <ompaul> liouncourt,  that last message by ubotu
[10:53] <liouncourt> but what password
[10:54] <Warbo> liouncourt: Your user's password
[10:54] <ompaul> your own
[10:54] <liouncourt> the one wich i log ?
[10:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[10:54] <Warbo> yes
[10:54] <liouncourt> k
[10:54] <eclypse> steev, hold on I'm putting up the output
[10:54] <liouncourt> i will try
[10:54] <liouncourt> thanks
[10:54] <steev> eclypse: no rush - also do the output of sudo lspci -vv
[10:54] <Snowfairy> hrm, #iptables doesn't seem very active.
[10:54] <liouncourt> Sorry, try again.
[10:54] <Draconicus> crimsun_: The CD just finished downloading. Are you here?
[10:54] <Snowfairy> 60 people and not a soul speaking.
[10:54] <liouncourt> this is the message
[10:54] <Warbo> liouncourt: By using "gksudo" instead of "sudo" you will get a nicer box to put a password in
[10:54] <liouncourt> :(
[10:55] <liouncourt> works
[10:55] <Spec> when I 'vi' a document, i see text on my screen ... when i quit vim, the text disappears. i want the text to stay on the screen - how do i do this?
[10:55] <liouncourt> i type wrong letters
[10:55] <liouncourt> :))
[10:55] <Warbo> Spec: vi is an editor. To keep the text use "cat"
[10:55] <Spec> Warbo: too long of a file
[10:56] <Spec> Warbo: on some systems vi will close and not behave that way
[10:56] <Warbo> Spec: "cat file | less" :)
[10:56] <fourat> NoUse, http://pastebin.com/713802
[10:56] <Discipulus> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my USB CD Burner?
[10:56] <__mikem> WHy do people still use vi when pico or nano is available
[10:56] <Spec> uhh
[10:56] <fourat> still have the same problems
[10:56] <Spec> Warbo: when i close less
[10:56] <EnsignRedshirt> This may be a dumb question...  I am trying to set up a VPN connection to my work network.  I am using pptp-linux and James Cameron's pptpconfig, a GUI pptp configuration app.  It appears to have successfully created a tunnel... now what?  Does this take over my internet connection?
[10:56] <Spec> Warbo: ...the text disappears the same way vim does
[10:56] <crimsun_> Draconicus: I'm in n' out
[10:56] <Warbo> Spec: Screenshot :)
[10:56] <LjL> __mikem: vi is probably sort of more powerful
[10:56] <NoUse> fourat did you also run 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[10:56] <AlienX> vi rocks :)
[10:56] <Spec> i don't want the text to disappear :-/
[10:56] <EnsignRedshirt> How can I tell if the VPN tunnel is actually working?
[10:57] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. Hope you're here when I get the thing booted.
[10:57] <Warbo> Emacs (I know I know, offtopic)
[10:57] <eclypse> steev, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15834
[10:57] <__mikem> If I needed something more powerful I would use a gui based editor
[10:57] <AlienX> Warbo, remember those shirts on thinkgeek from a while back? heh
[10:57] <LjL> !start an editor war
[10:57] <ubotu> methinks start an editor war is Emacs rules.
[10:57] <EnsignRedshirt> ...or if I'm still using the internet connection that I was using before I created the tunnel.
[10:57] <__mikem> ubotu no start an editor war is Nano rocks
[10:57] <ubotu> okay, __mikem
[10:57] <__mikem> there
[10:58] <__mikem> lol
[10:58] <fourat> NoUse, http://pastebin.com/713807
[10:58] <crimsun_> Draconicus: if I don't respond immediately, it's because I'm chasing a resume-from-suspend-to-ram issue in -25.43.
[10:58] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alrighty. Good luck with that.
[10:58] <dooglus> Spec: cat file
[10:58] <steev> eclypse: 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 80 [Master] ) <--
[10:59] <earHertz> I seem to have ssh but not sshd. What's by best best to install an ssh server?
[10:59] <Discipulus> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my USB CD Burner?
[10:59] <Spec> dooglus: too long of a file, and i know i can pipe through grep and do -A# from the line i want to see
[10:59] <dayspring> hi
[10:59] <eclypse> steev, ok now what?
[10:59] <Spec> but that's a pain in the ass, and i don't want it to disappear in the first place
[10:59] <dooglus> Spec: what do you want to see on the screen then?
[10:59] <steev> thats how you know you have sata :) - now you need sdparm, not hdparm
[10:59] <dayspring> what Antivirus program can I use on Ubuntu to check my emails before I send them to MS Windows users?
[10:59] <Spec> dooglus: when I am looking at a document, vim, less, whatever, and i close the program, i want what's on the terminal to stay on the terminal
[10:59] <dayspring> Discipulus: with ease
[10:59] <eclypse> steev:what do I need to do?
[10:59] <PwcrLinux> HI there
[11:00] <Gyuszk> bye
[11:00] <NoUse> fourat 'sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat'
[11:00] <EnsignRedshirt> earHertz: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:00] <NoUse> fourat kill whatever process shows up
[11:00] <steev> eclypse: apt-get install sdparm
[11:00] <kallei> i have heard something about something named computer:///   where is this located?  i would like to change the names of my Disks and 'Places'
[11:00] <NoUse> fourat then try apt-get -f isntall again
[11:00] <dayspring> what Antivirus program can I use on Ubuntu to check my emails before I send them to MS Windows users?  anypne please?
[11:00] <earHertz> EnsignRedshirt: thansk. any idea why it's not part of the standard setup?
[11:00] <Discipulus> dayspring, it didn't detect it at startup
[11:00] <eclypse> steev, is that all that I need to do? or do I have to remove hdparm as wlel
[11:00] <Discipulus> dayspring, and it didn't detect it when I plugged it in a second time
[11:01] <PwcrLinux> Linux doesn't need any antivirus program..
[11:01] <ompaul> dayspring, why would you need to, - clamav or amavis  if your serving mails to windows boxes
[11:01] <Warbo> PwcrLinux: But Windows does, that's the point
[11:01] <EnsignRedshirt> earHertz: Nope--I guess Ubuntu figures the "typical" user does not want an ssh server on their machine.
[11:01] <Spec> dayspring: uhh, www.mailscanner.org
[11:01] <earHertz> weird. I saw I had the client, so I assumed
[11:01] <NoUse> earHertz EnsignRedshirt for security purposes the default install has no open ports
[11:01] <PwcrLinux> Warbo: Yep, M$ gets viruses, hacked and trojans
[11:01] <cappiz> i use php5 with apache (phpmyadmin)... when i open it with IE it works but with FF i get error: says i want to open application/x-httpd-php
[11:01] <cappiz> or something
[11:01] <ompaul> Warbo, so let windows users mind themselves (which they can't cos its closed) or move to Linux
[11:01] <cappiz> whats wrong :P ?
[11:01] <roger_> Hello. I need help. I am new on this. Itray to install amule and I set: sudo apt-get install amule. the comuter sey cant find the pac... what is wrong
[11:02] <ancient123> hey
[11:02] <fourat> NoUse, same thing : http://pastebin.com/713817 :/
[11:02] <Warbo> PwcrLinux: And scanning emails intended for M$ users on Linux is sensible
[11:02] <zenit> earHertz: the policy in ubuntu is to not have any services running externally by default.
[11:02] <earHertz> Noe that I've unstalled it, will teh server be started whenever I start up teh machine?
[11:02] <zenit> yes
[11:02] <ompaul> Warbo, not if your generating them
[11:02] <eclypse> steev, what else need be done?
[11:02] <Discipulus> dayspring, you ain't gonna help me out anymore? Can't seem to find anything in the wiki to help me out
[11:02] <Warbo> ompaul: lol
[11:02] <ancient123> im in the live cd right not and i was wondering how i did a server install instead of a regular one
[11:02] <dayspring> ompaul: I have clamav, but how can I upgrade it to latest version?
[11:02] <BHSPitMonkey> can Tap-to-click be turned off in Ubuntu/gnome? (laptop)
[11:02] <steev> eclypse: after that, im really not sure, running it like you would hdparm i guess - i only deal with sata on our servers
[11:02] <Warbo> ompaul: By the way, do you want to invest in my viagra company? :)
[11:02] <ompaul> dayspring, that is not how that kind of program works
[11:02] <__mikem> I believe the server is on a seperate disk now
[11:03] <PwcrLinux> Warbo: win users should use webmail providers they included a network antivirus scanner..
[11:03] <j-linux> I made a mistake -- my 4th install of Ubuntu today... finally got it working, but horribly misspelled my user name... arrg.
[11:03] <ompaul> Warbo, elan are not doing too well in shares these days so no thanks
[11:03] <NoUse> fourat did you install any debs manually?
[11:03] <rascabuches> hi, Why I can't play music in amarok, I've got the gsteamer and it worked, but one day it stopped playing music
[11:03] <rascabuches> any ideas??
[11:03] <Warbo> PwcrLinux: I hate webmail and I am desperately trying to get off Yahoo
[11:03] <NoUse> fourat can you pasebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:03] <eclypse> steev, hmm.......
[11:03] <Spec> Warbo: gmail :)
[11:03] <dooglus> Spec: j-linux
[11:03] <PwcrLinux> Warbo: I use 5 webmails providers
[11:04] <Warbo> Spec: 1) Need an invite 2) Faorwarding is a "Premium service" to Yahoo
[11:04] <Snowfairy> Is there anyone knowledgeble about iptables around?  I need help adding a chain that simply passes all incoming and outgoing packets through it and then onto the rest of the firewall script I have as appropriate.   Current script is posted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15833
[11:04] <dayspring> Discipulus: sorry I dont know
[11:04] <fourat> NoUse, http://pastebin.com/713821
[11:04] <j-linux> dooglus: Spec?  Is that a way to fix it?  I was thinking there probably isn't a way to fix it...
[11:04] <dayspring> ompaul: how does it work?
[11:04] <Spec> Warbo: forwarding is free in gmail, i've got thousands of invites.
[11:04] <dooglus> j-linux: yes.
[11:04] <dayspring> ompaul: how do I make sure clamscan has the latest virus signatures?
[11:04] <earHertz> this is sweet, thanks EnsignRedshirt
[11:04] <Warbo> PwcrLinux: The more webmail providers you use the more useful an email client like Evolution is. Yahoo stop you using them unless you pay :(
[11:04] <Discipulus> Does anyone know?
[11:05] <StNickSA> Hi everyone.  Please could someone help me out...  I am trying to install Dapper on an old Laptop (P2-300).  The LiveCD boots fine, but I cannot get past step 2 of the install process.  The CD-ROM is going crazy, but it just never gets anywhere.  Any ideas?  Is there a command-line install option?
[11:05] <EnsignRedshirt> earHertz: no problem.
[11:05] <ompaul> dayspring, you keep the thing patched and use current "filters" and I don't do that o/s at all so I don't need that functionality, but I can see some advantage in  maybe doing something to scan mails locally and in this way I can alter the message to say, use linux
[11:05] <Warbo> Spec: But I can't carry over my Yahoo mail. Does anyone wkow how to set up FreePOPs?
[11:05] <knubbe> hi, i just installed a driver from dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots, but it appears that this driver isnt supported by dapper's kernel. is it possible to uninstall a graphics driver and get back dappers default?
[11:05] <dayspring> ompaul: patched?
[11:05] <dayspring> ompaul: how do I use current "filters"?
[11:05] <j-linux> dooglus: do you know a reference page for that or other information?  Google is giving me unrelated answers...  couldn't find a man page.
[11:05] <PwcrLinux> Warbo: Right on, Yahoo premium members can use fetching from other mail or forwarding them.. I don't need a premiums heh
[11:06] <ompaul> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/spamassassin_clamav_procmail/index.php
[11:06] <NoUse> fourat this isn't a sources.list from ubuntu
[11:06] <noodz> Hi, i was wondering where I could get a list of the updates after they're deployed, and what changes were made
[11:06] <noodz> such as the updates that were released yesterday, for example
[11:06] <ompaul> dayspring, ^^ clamav
[11:06] <PwcrLinux> My cellphone fetching the Gmail
[11:06] <Warbo> StNickSA: There is an alternative CD which is text only
[11:06] <ompaul> dayspring, I don't support it so al I can do is point you at online resources
[11:06] <distanceisdeath> is there a way to extract TST files?
[11:07] <noodz> Nobody knows where to find a changelog for dapper? So many updates yesterday, I'd like to know what was fixed!
[11:07] <ompaul> dayspring, ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamAVUpdates
[11:07] <dayspring> ompaul: what does ^^ mean?
[11:07] <banksw> Upgrade lock-up on pkg wvdial --anyone know a work around for this pkg on install?
[11:07] <dayspring> ompaul: thanks
[11:07] <ompaul> dayspring, scroll back a line or two
[11:07] <ompaul> dayspring, be aware that page has not been kept up to date
[11:08] <cappiz> i use php5 with apache (phpmyadmin)... when i open it with IE it works but with FF i get error: says i want to open application/x-httpd-php ... what have i done wrong?
[11:08] <dayspring> ompaul: thanks
[11:08] <j-linux> lost my connection
[11:08] <ompaul> dayspring, So the repos need to be changed
[11:08] <Warbo> Anyone know how to set up FreePOPs?
[11:08] <dayspring> j-linux: you find it ?
[11:08] <j-linux> dayspring: I couldn't find anything on spec
[11:08] <noodz> ... does nobody know where dapper's changelog resides? i can't seem to find an updated one anywhere
[11:08] <j-linux> dayspring: lost my connection for a minute though, I'm not sure if anyone posted anything.
[11:10] <ompaul> dayspring, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamAV might be better
[11:10] <StNickSA> Warbo: I have the alternative CD.  I'll give it a shot, thanks so much.  Will I be able to install the GUI from the "desktop" disc afterwards?  I don't really have proper internet access in order to download it.
[11:10] <Tommy2k4> anyone know of an amarok script that can adjust pitch/tempo
[11:10] <roger_> er det noen normenn som kan hjelpe meg litt
[11:11] <Tommy2k4> or any other mp3 player that can do it for that matter
[11:11] <dayspring> ompaul: I found something!  I just added this to my sources.list and it is now upgrading it: deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile sarge/volatile main
[11:11] <Warbo> StNickSA: The alternate disc is tect-only but it does install a GUI (unless you give it a "server" option at boot)
[11:11] <achandra>  q::q
[11:11] <ompaul> dayspring, I would suggest you don't use outside repos
[11:11] <StNickSA> Warbo: Excellent.  Thanks again.  Wish me luck.
[11:11] <ompaul> dayspring, have a look at that latter page it seems much better an idea
[11:12] <Warbo> StNickSA: good luck
[11:12] <Warbo> :)
[11:12] <dayspring> ompaul: ok
[11:12] <NoUse> dayspring good way to break your system
[11:12] <PwcrLinux> cya later
[11:13] <dooglus> j-linux: sorry.  got called away.  I think 'usermod' does what you want
[11:13] <dooglus> j-linux: are you sorted already, or do you want the full command?
[11:13] <Stormx2> I hate reinstalling ubuntu >_< I lose all my stuff
[11:13] <Stormx2> Well not all my stuff but my installed apps...
[11:13] <Stormx2> Im having to reinstall stuff now ^_^
[11:13] <HymnToLife> save your DEBs
[11:14] <HymnToLife> avoids you the hassle of downloading them again
[11:14] <Stormx2> What'd be cool
[11:14] <dooglus> j-linux: sudo usermod -l newname oldname
[11:14] <StNickSA> Warbo:  I see the notes for the Alternate CD state that it's ideal for "installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.".  I think this could be my exact proplem.  This notebook only has 192mb RAM.
[11:14] <ManiacWork> any ideas on if the sparc dist will work on a sunblade 2000?
[11:14] <Stormx2> is if I could get a list of installed apps?
[11:14] <j-linux> dooglus: will it have any effect on my permissions, groups, etc.?
[11:14] <Stormx2> How would I do that?
[11:14] <Pinkle_Rose> hello
[11:14] <NoUse> Stormx2 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[11:14] <HymnToLife> Stormx2> dpkg -l
[11:14] <roger_> what most I do. I want install a program from internet. amule
[11:14] <dooglus> j-linux: it'll just change your user's name - not his userid
[11:14] <Ackeubu_> I get an error when i log in to gnome. can i check that error mess some where? systemlog?\
[11:14] <HymnToLife> it will be long though
[11:15] <Pinkle_Rose> is here anybody who use compiz & xgl?
[11:15] <assasukasse> hi all
[11:15] <j-linux> dooglus: it's my own account.  my main ubuntu login.
[11:15] <Warbo> roger_: Add Universe then look for it in System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[11:15] <assasukasse> how can i get rid of old kernels?
[11:15] <dooglus> j-linux: your name will be almost nowhere in the filesystem.  permissions are based on the userid, not the name.  you'll still own the same files you own now.
[11:15] <SteffJay> Hello peep's
[11:15] <dooglus> j-linux: the files are owned by "user 1000" probably - at the moment user 1000 has one name, you'll be changing his name - but he'll still be user 1000, and still own the same stuff.
[11:15] <j-linux> dooglus: great... thanks!  I thought I was doomed to 6 months of a misspelled user name :S  (4 installs today was enough)
[11:15] <dooglus> j-linux: sudo usermod -l newname oldname
[11:16] <j-linux> thank
[11:16] <j-linux> thanks
[11:16] <blaze^^> Hello, how can i return from 2.6.15.25 to 2.6.15.23 ?
[11:16] <dooglus> j-linux: that's an L for login, by the way
[11:16] <Pinkle_Rose> i dont know why hotkeys like ALT+Tab not working on my computer
[11:16] <roger_> how I do that
[11:16] <Warbo> blaze^^: Install linux-image-2.6.15-23-xxxxx then choose it in GRUB at boot
[11:16] <blaze^^> i see, thanks :)
[11:16] <klet> In slackware I had a very very nice file called rc.local where I could put all commands I wanted to be loaded at boot. The rc.local was loaded after the entire system had been loaded, but before X started. which file in ubuntu does the same?
[11:16] <blaze^^> Warbo: :)
[11:16] <Warbo> !tell roger_ about universe
[11:17] <j-linux> dooglus: got it... was reading the man page too... It worked.  Thanks again...
[11:17] <Scorpmoon> I don't have the screen resolutions 1280x960 to choose from under Screen Resolution.. what can I do to add it there?
[11:17] <dooglus> you're welcome
[11:17] <SteffJay> Can somebody help me out here ?
[11:18] <NoUse> !helpme
[11:18] <dayspring> I ordered my new Ubuntu CD :)
[11:18] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[11:18] <roger_> ok I tray
[11:18] <roger_> tanks
[11:18] <Warbo> roger_: np
[11:18] <dayspring> when I get my new Ubuntu CD, is it best to install from stracth, or upgrade from Breezy?
[11:18] <Discipulus> Alright well my cd burner was supposed to have support starting with the 2.4.6 kernel
[11:18] <Tommy2k4> i need an mp3 player / amarok script that can adjust the pitch/tempo of a song
[11:18] <Discipulus> so anyone know why it's not detecting it?
[11:18] <assasukasse> which kernel should i install on my centrino, 386 or 686?
[11:18] <SteffJay> I need to know how to set up a dns on Dapper...  noob here !!
[11:18] <Snowfairy> Is there anyone knowledgeble about iptables around?  I need help adding a chain that simply passes all incoming and outgoing packets through it and then onto the rest of the firewall script I have as appropriate.   Current script is posted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15833
[11:18] <calisee> dayspring: i would install from scratch but up to you
[11:19] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm trying to access a network with VPN using pptp.  I need to use VPN to access the mail server on my work network.  I think I have the VPN tunnel working, but I don't know how to actually test it.  Evolution says it can't connect to the mail server.  Do I have to tell Evolution about the VPN tunnel? If so, how?
[11:19] <Warbo> assasukasse: 686 I think
[11:19] <FearMoth> what's the command to install a script into the /etc/rc.d  directories?
[11:19] <dayspring> Discipulus: does another OS decect it?>
[11:19] <dayspring> calisee: why?
[11:19] <knubbe> assasukasse: i use 686 for centrino, and it should be faster
[11:19] <Warbo> FearMoth: update-rc.d
[11:19] <calisee> dayspring: just a cleaner install and what not
[11:19] <kleggas> In slackware I had a very very nice file called rc.local where I could put all commands I wanted to be loaded at boot. The rc.local was loaded after the entire system had been loaded, but before X started. which file in ubuntu does the same?
[11:19] <ulisse> dayspring: I have a pc installed from scratch and another upgraded, and cannot see differences
[11:19] <Warbo> FearMoth: (check it's manual)
[11:19] <dayspring> calisee: is that what u did?
[11:19] <kane77> how do i set up thunderbird so that it shows new mail in tray???
[11:19] <knubbe> assasukasse: (even though its slower for me)
[11:19] <FearMoth> thanks Warbo
[11:19] <dayspring> Discipulus: does another OS decect it?
[11:19] <j-linux> One last question (I hope).  How to I rename my home directory (from the misspelled one)?  I tried $ sudo mv olddir/ newdir/ and it doesn't work.
[11:19] <NoUse> SteffJay DNS server or what?
[11:19] <dayspring> ulisse: ok
[11:20] <calisee> dayspring: yeah i got rid of my breezy first, but it probably isn't too big of a deal
[11:20] <dayspring> j-linux: use nauitlus
[11:20] <Discipulus> dayspring, I don't run another OS
[11:20] <dayspring> calisee: ok
[11:20] <Discipulus> dayspring, but my buddy said it didn't work with his Windows XP machine
[11:20] <j-linux> dayspring: $ sudo nautilus ?
[11:20] <Discipulus> dayspring, and the box says Windows XP or higher
[11:20] <assasukasse> knubbe why slower
[11:20] <rapha> Installed Dapper but it doesn't work at all :-(
[11:20] <rapha> Help please!
[11:20] <Zambezi> What can I use instead of Conky?
[11:20] <dayspring> Discipulus: how do you know its properly cabled and connected?
[11:20] <Discipulus> dayspring, said XP said it's too new to support or something or it doesn't support it or something
[11:20] <Discipulus> dayspring, cuz I know my cables :-P
[11:20] <rapha> In my fresh installation I get "/etc/sudoers: Permission denied"
[11:20] <dayspring> Discipulus: if it didnt work on Xp either, mayve its broke :P
 I have everything pointing to 192.168.1.103...  all seems well but i cannot get Macromedia Flash Server to detect it !
[11:21] <Discipulus> Properly cabled
[11:21] <dayspring> Discipulus: how old?
[11:21] <Discipulus> dayspring, from the days of 2.4.6
[11:21] <dayspring> Discipulus: tried another cable?
[11:21] <NoUse> SteffJay that is your DNS server?
[11:21] <dayspring> Discipulus: cable could be faulty
[11:21] <Discipulus> Nope, should though eh?
[11:21] <dayspring> days of 2.4.6?
[11:22] <dayspring> Discipulus: 1 thing I learned was never be 100% certain a cable is working properly :P
[11:22] <EnsignRedshirt> Well, clearly Gaim was not using the VPN tunnel, since I closed it and I still here :)
[11:22] <Discipulus> lol
[11:22] <dayspring> Discipulus: even if its brand new :P
[11:22] <Discipulus> EnsignRedshirt, I could tell that by a quick whois on you
[11:22] <dregs> Hello all
[11:23] <EnsignRedshirt> Discipulus: whois ?
[11:23] <dregs> Anyone here receptive to some Dapper gripes?
[11:23] <Discipulus> dayspring, PM?
[11:23] <Discipulus> dayspring, I have a paste
[11:24] <dicesquirrel> Question: I've installed Dapper on my Dell Latitude D600, which has a 14.1" screen that can sustain a 1400x1050 screen res. However, I can't get higher than 1024x768. How can I get the full 1400x1050?
[11:24] <dayspring> Discipulus: paste of what?
[11:24] <dibblego> where can I get libdvdcss ?
[11:24] <Discipulus> dayspring, tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[11:24] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm completey new to this VPN stuff.  I can see that when I start the VPN tunnel, /sbin/ifconfig shows a new device (?), ppp0.
[11:24] <nansub0111> hello. does anyone know where to install pygame from in Dapper?
[11:24] <dayspring> dregs: define gripes
[11:24] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, I had exactly that problem just 12 hours ago
[11:24] <dibblego> except mine is a Dell 15"
[11:24] <ulisse> dibblego: try with PLF repositories
[11:24] <dicesquirrel> dibblego, did you resolve it?
[11:24] <Discipulus> EnsignRedshirt, you gotta set your gateway to ppp0
[11:24] <dayspring> dibblego: why exaclty you want libdvdcss ?
[11:24] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, yes, privmsg me - I'll be with you in a minute
[11:24] <dibblego> dayspring, to play DVDs
[11:25] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (I don't think your desired resolution will be in the standard "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg")
[11:25] <dregs> dayspring: For the most part, despite a couple improvements, Dapper feels like a downgrade from Breezy:
[11:25] <dayspring> dibblego: is it legal in your contry?
[11:25] <dayspring> dregs: why downgrade?
[11:25] <kleggas> In slackware I had a very very nice file called rc.local where I could put all commands I wanted to be loaded at boot. The rc.local was loaded after the entire system had been loaded, but before X started. which file in ubuntu does the same?
[11:25] <dicesquirrel> dibblego, I'm a bit of an IRC noob. How exactly does one privmsg? Heh.
[11:25] <dibblego> dayspring, I am a political activist who does many more things than "downloading libdvdcss" - I have court in 6 weeks
[11:25] <dayspring> dregs: what impreovments?
[11:25] <dregs> 1. My volume, next, prev, etc. buttons no longer work in Amarok (they did in Breezy) and trying to configure them doesn't work the way it did
[11:25] <knubbe> is it possible to downgrade my graphic card driver?
[11:25] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, /privmsg dibblego hello
[11:25] <rapha> dicesquirrel: "/msg username"
[11:25] <ulisse> dibblego: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/
[11:25] <rapha> dicesquirrel: "/msg username blah"
[11:25] <dibblego> ulisse, thanks
[11:25] <dayspring> kleggas: go back to slackware then :P
[11:26] <dregs> The improvements are mostly that the network connects faster, via WiFi or wired
[11:26] <ulisse> dibblego: somewhere there must be an english version
[11:26] <dayspring> dregs: you dont need amarok
[11:26] <dicesquirrel> Warbo, how exactly should I edit xorg.conf. I already tried adding my resolution, to no avail. Not sure I did it correctly, though
[11:26] <dayspring> dibblego: so you say
[11:26] <Warbo> dicesquirrel: Just copy what is already there and edit it to what you want
[11:26] <dregs> dayspring: That's not the point. It was working, now isn't
[11:27] <dibblego> dayspring, using the internet may be considered illegal in my country if a magistrate is so inclined
[11:27] <dregs> Also some apps disappeared: realplayer, X-chat (I reinstalled Xchat as you can see)
[11:27] <dayspring> dicesquirrel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:27] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, you need to add "1400x1050" "1280x1024" in front of the existing entries
[11:27] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Well, it looks like I have no sound on the Live CD, either.
[11:27] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, I restarted X and I was fine
[11:27] <dicesquirrel> dibblego, ahh, I juts added "1400x1050)
[11:27] <dicesquirrel> just, rather
[11:27] <tr1gg3r> kleggas: no file does this use update-rc.d to add or remove services from startup, the startup script must be located in /etc/init.d
[11:27] <Raskall> hmm.. the amd64 server kernel actually gives me less performance.
[11:27] <dayspring> Draconicus: check your cables :P
[11:28] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, that should work too
[11:28] <tr1gg3r> kleggas: really knowing that info u could make a file to do what ur old slack file did
[11:28] <arun> can someone help with wxpython installation
[11:28] <Draconicus> dayspring: The cables worked before the update three hours ago and I haven't touched them since.
[11:28] <Scorpmoon> after automatic kernel update, I have 2 Ubuntu's in my GRUB .. 23 and 25 .. do I just apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.15.23.amd64.generic to get rid of the first?
[11:28] <Raskall> hmm.. scratch that. 20% decrease on write and rewrite, but it has actually increased the same amount on read and reread
 Everything is installed, Apache etc....  i can point everything to 192.168.1.103 except Flash Media Server cannot connect to it !!
[11:28] <kleggas> trlgg3r: Do you know what the commandline would look like couse I just tryed it and I couldnt figure that command out at all :)
[11:28] <dooglus> arun: using synaptic?
[11:28] <dayspring> how come a few ppl think Dapper is a downgrade from Breezy?  Should I stay with Breezy then? :)
[11:28] <arun> dooglus, from sourc
[11:28] <crimsun_> Draconicus: and you issued ``asoundconf set-default-card Live'', correct?
[11:29] <dregs> I would stay with Breezy
[11:29] <dibblego> dicesquirrel, http://rafb.net/paste/results/wPCCRJ78.html I changed one line: 138
[11:29] <tr1gg3r> kleggas: u must be root to use update-rc.d
[11:29] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Oh. Whoops. Hold on.
[11:29] <dayspring> Draconicus: can cables ever break? if so, they break at any time, so in the last 3 hours, they could have broken :)
[11:29] <arun> dooglus, synaptic has a older version i need a later version
[11:29] <dregs> The main improvements I was looking for were (a) suspend to RAM and (b) built-in SD card reader
[11:29] <dregs> (b) works sometimes, (a) doesn't work
[11:29] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Ah. There we go.
[11:30] <tr1gg3r> kleggas: if using sudo try /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
[11:30] <fmc] [-AmaG-> Hi!
[11:30] <dibblego> !DVD
[11:30] <kleggas> trlgg3r: I am using sudo on it. sudo update-rc.d -n -f rc.local      what is wrong in that commandline( and yess the files is located right now in /etc/init.d
[11:30] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:30] <crimsun_> Draconicus: it does work?
[11:30] <fmc] [-AmaG-> I have an Asrock-Mainboard with Southbridge: ULI 1573, will Ubuntu 6.06-server be able to install on this?
[11:30] <NoUse> SteffJay probably an issue for Macromedia then
[11:30] <dooglus> arun: ok...  you could try using the debian sid version maybe?
[11:31] <arun> dooglus, how do i do that..
[11:31] <SteffJay> Ok..  thanks <NoUse>
[11:31] <dooglus> arun: it's not really recommended to mix repositories, but it's never caused me any problems
[11:31] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound i have ac97 chipset
[11:31] <NoUse> dooglus arun wait, are you attempting to mix ubuntu and debian packages?
[11:31] <tr1gg3r> kleggas: -f removes startup links, try update-rc.d -n service_name defaults
[11:31] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Yep.
[11:31] <tr1gg3r> kleggas: then of course actually make the changes take out the -n flag
[11:31] <dooglus> NoUse: he wants a new version of wxpython - newer than ubuntu provides
[11:32] <NoUse> dooglus arun I've seen it break systems, so if you come back in here and people seen you've mixed packages they will probably throw their hand sup and say "Shouldn't have done that"
[11:32] <NoUse> dooglus what version?
[11:32] <fr500> hello
[11:32] <tr1gg3r> arun: apt-pinning
[11:32] <kleggas> Thanx trlgg3r
[11:32] <dooglus> NoUse: I don't know
[11:32] <fr500> how can i chaange hostname so it applied on boot
[11:32] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Why would a fox eat grapes? :P
[11:32] <tr1gg3r> fr500: hostname cmd
[11:32] <NoUse> arun what version do you need?
[11:32] <Discipulus> what's the location of a USB device?
[11:32] <arun> tr1gg3r, what does it do
[11:32] <Discipulus> /dev/"what"?
[11:33] <arun> NoUse, i want 2.6.3..
[11:33] <MeGaQuArK_> I have a Font question, is anyone game?
[11:33] <arun> NoUse, or later
[11:33] <Draconicus> MeGaQuArK_: Shoot.
[11:33] <tr1gg3r> arun: apt-pinning allows u to safely mix repostiories, i.e. get only the new pkg u need, google there much docs on it for debian
[11:33] <MeGaQuArK_> How can I turn off the Antialiasing?
[11:33] <MeGaQuArK_> Choosing Monochrome in the Fonts prefs doesn't do it.
[11:34] <MatsK> Discipulus: USB = /dev/sda normaly
[11:34] <arun> NoUse, is there a way to get it installed without mixing rep..
[11:34] <fr500> tr1gg3r: hostname doesnt save, when i reboot the other hostname is still there
[11:34] <NoUse> arun http://www.bitpim.org/developer.html
[11:35] <NoUse> arun they have a method of building custom debs via alien
[11:35] <Draconicus> MeGaQuArK_: Hmm.. I'm not sure about that one. Why do you want to turn of antialiasing, anyway?
[11:35] <NoUse> arun replace their files with the appropriate versions
[11:35] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound i have ac97 chipset my system already detect my card
[11:35] <arun> NoUse, i tried installing from source.. i could configure, make and make install.. but the next step of python setup.py gives me errors saying WXGLCAnvas etc etc missing
[11:35] <Discipulus> MatsK, I have 4 different usb ports though
[11:35] <crimsun_> Draconicus: great. Please reboot into your installed Dapper, remove /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, and make the following temporary change to /etc/init.d/alsa-utils:
[11:35] <NoUse> arun well I've never built wxpython
[11:35] <MeGaQuArK_> It doesn't look as sharp as it should be, and it gives me a headache :-)
[11:36] <NoUse> arun you can try the debian sid version but, just a warning
[11:36] <tr1gg3r> fr500: echo newhostname > /etc/hostname, however hostname cmd should handle if run as root
[11:36] <Discipulus> I don't even have /dev/sda
[11:36] <NoUse> arun its dangerious
[11:36] <dooglus> NoUse: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/python-wxgtk2.4
[11:36] <arun> NoUse, I am not sure if i can risk
[11:36] <crimsun_> Draconicus: in the store_levels() function (line 81 or thereabouts), above 'CARD="$1"' place a 'return 0' so that the function is effectively no-opped
[11:36] <fr500> tr1gg3r: ok, thanks
[11:36] <arun> NoUse, i think i will try just from the source..
[11:37] <tr1gg3r> np
[11:37] <NoUse> arun is this just for development?
[11:37] <arun> NoUse, yeah
[11:37] <udo> does anyone have mutella?
[11:37] <crimsun_> Draconicus: then reboot, and your Live should be audible
[11:37] <NoUse> arun one thing you can do is create a debian sid chrooted environment in ubuntu
[11:37] <Scorpmoon> argh, new kernel update overwrote my fglrx drivers with a "restricted package".. now some things don't work
[11:37] <NoUse> arun then you can dev inside that
[11:37] <Scorpmoon> thanks alot
[11:37] <Amheirchion> hi all
[11:37] <Hobart> Can Ubuntu Dapper be built with Debootstrap from Sarge?
[11:37] <rapha> Any Ubuntu Masters around?
[11:37] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound i have ac97 chipset my system already detect my card
[11:37] <ulisse> Scorpmoon: you have a radeon 9000 or similar, i guess
[11:37] <arun> NoUse, ok..
[11:38] <gnomefreak> define masters
[11:38] <Amheirchion> having a few problems getting dapper started
[11:38] <NoUse> !tell arun about chroot
[11:38] <Scorpmoon> x800xl
[11:38] <Scorpmoon> ulisse, what can I do?
[11:38] <tr1gg3r> udo: maybe muted in alsamixer
[11:38] <Discipulus> So my USB CD RW is in /dev/ but I can't mount it and k3b doesn't recognize it
[11:38] <boricua> software update does in upgrade only or does it try to install new packages?
[11:38] <Scorpmoon> reinstall fglrx?
[11:38] <kane77> is there a way to make a program open by default on some workspace??
[11:38] <gnomefreak> rapha: tell us your issue and someone that knows will help you
[11:38] <ulisse> Scorpmoon: you can change a lib with the old one, it worked for me
[11:38] <Scorpmoon> how so
[11:39] <ulisse> Scorpmoon: wait, i can provide the lib
[11:39] <udo> trlgg3r no i dont mute
[11:39] <Scorpmoon> can't i just reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:39] <boricua> how come the softare update can't authentica some paCKAGES?
[11:39] <rapha> My issue is that on a fresh Dapper install sudo (and hence many other parts of the system) doesn't work. The error is: "sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied" gnomefreak
[11:39] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound i have ac97 chipset my system already detect my card
[11:39] <LinuxJones> boricua, you have 3rd party repos listed ?
[11:39] <ulisse> Scorpmoon: it's the driver that is broken, it will not work
[11:39] <gnomefreak> rapha: try sudo apt-get update
[11:39] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I made those changes while in the live CD. It's easier that way. I'll reboot, now.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> rapha: let me know if it runs or not
[11:39] <boricua> multiverse and universe
[11:39] <Tonren> Hey guys, I used to be able to browse Windows Network workgroupswith Nautilus, but now I get an error: "The folder contents could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshome"."  Any hints?
[11:40] <Tommy2k4> is there any mp3 player that can adjust pitch/tempo on-the-fly like wmp can
[11:40] <Scorpmoon> ulisse, ok, but what do I do about it
[11:40] <LinuxJones> udo, your sound mixer volumes probably need adjustment
[11:40] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Don't worry, I didn't change the Live CD's stuff. I mounted my root partition and edited the proper files.
[11:40] <ulisse> Scorpmoon: download this: http://ulisse.awardspace.com/stuff/libGL.so.1.2
[11:40] <boricua> LinuxJones: not that i am aware
[11:40] <NoUse> ulisse Scorpmoon wait
[11:40] <NoUse> ulisse what is that for?
[11:40] <Discipulus> Can anyone help get my cd burner working?
[11:40] <udo> linuxjones how can i do that
[11:40] <Scorpmoon> i'm not downloading from you
[11:40] <Scorpmoon> no offence
[11:40] <LinuxJones> boricua, what repo is complaining about ?
[11:41] <ulisse> NoUse: it's an issue with latest fglrx driver, it screws up 3D with radeon9000 cards
[11:41] <rapha> gnomefreak: kay. Gotta get wireless working first from recovery mode then. Will take a while. I'll shout when I'm done :)
[11:41] <NoUse> ulisse where is that documented?
[11:41] <LinuxJones> udo, easiest to open a terminal windows and type alsamixer
[11:41] <boricua> LinuxJones: only showed the pckges  kdebase and 2 other
[11:41] <gnomefreak> rapha: wait
[11:41] <ulisse> Scorpmoon: no offence at all, you can find it on the net ;)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> rapha: are you in gnome atm?
[11:41] <kane77> Scorpmoon, i'm not up to things... what problem do you have with libGL.so???
[11:41] <Amheirchion> decided to install dapper onto my old pc, i had breezy on there before i reinstalled windows on it to lend to a friend, but when i install dapper i don't get a nice shiny login screen, instead i get a page of text with "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ubuntu ttyl" at the top, does anyone have any ideas or help for a linux nub?
[11:41] <ulisse> NoUse: let me see if I can find back where I've found it
[11:41] <dicesquirrel> Hi, I'm still having problems configuring my Dell Latitude D600's resolution correctly. The Ubuntu wiki told me to use aticonfig because I'm using the fglrx drivers, but all I got was a segmentation fault.
[11:42] <Scorpmoon> kane77, after 25 kernel update i can't access the same resolutions as before
[11:42] <Scorpmoon> i need 1280x960
[11:42] <udo> its all mute but i dont hear any sound
[11:42] <udo> its all unmute but i dont hear any sound :)
[11:42] <BHSPitMonkey> hi, my wireless card doesn't appear in my list of network devices, any thoughts?
[11:42] <rapha> gnomefreak: nope, can only get into gnome by doing startx. And without sudo working, you're dead in the water then. So I'm in recovery mode now.
[11:42] <LinuxJones> boricua, if you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin.ca
[11:42] <BHSPitMonkey> it's an intel pro wireless ipw2200
[11:42] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I'd like a response for confirmation of my actions. I know I did it right, but I wouldn't mind the extra bit.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> rapha: hmm you should beable to startx without sudo
[11:43] <LinuxJones> boricua, is this a breand new install ?
[11:43] <ulisse> NoUse, Scorpmoon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[11:43] <boricua> yes
[11:43] <LinuxJones> boricua, err brand new install
[11:43] <boricua> no  i install 2 weeksw ago
[11:43] <LinuxJones> boricua, have you done apt-get update ?
[11:43] <udo> does anyone knows why i dont hear anything sound i have ac97 chipset my system already detect my card
[11:43] <boricua> yes
[11:43] <dan_> has anyone install xubuntu
[11:43] <Draconicus> rapha: I know it's a blow to the extreme security, but I like to make a root password, just for such emergencies. Recovery mode can be a pain.
[11:44] <sloucher> BHSPitMonkey lookup ndiswrapper
[11:44] <BHSPitMonkey> sloucher: is there a frontend?
[11:44] <QPAD|warlock> where to save bashscripts guys? :P
[11:44] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[11:44] <Draconicus> udo: Talk to crimsun_. :)
[11:44] <Jeruvy> hey all..someone tell me how to get my server back into ipv4 space ;)
[11:44] <dicesquirrel> I'm attempting to get a 1400x1050 resolution, and have adjusted my xorg.conf to reflect this, yet System > Preferences > Screen Resolution only shows 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.
[11:44] <rapha> Draconicus: it's no prob really, recovery mode gives you root without a password at all.
[11:44] <ulisse> is it safe to remove all the files in /var/log/ ?
[11:44] <quux> How much memory does Dapper use, default install, just sitting at an empty desktop with no apps running?
[11:44] <sloucher> BHSP don't know too much about it - read up I installed with a front end and it works
[11:44] <QPAD|warlock> where to save bashscripts guys? :P
[11:44] <LinuxJones> dicesquirrel, did you restart xorg ?
[11:45] <sloucher> without a frontend
[11:45] <bbrazil> QPAD|warlock: ~/bin is one place
[11:45] <dicesquirrel> LinuxJones: yes, I did
[11:45] <scacco[] > good n8
[11:45] <QPAD|warlock> Ah ok
[11:45] <Draconicus> rapha: True. Hrm. Well, I'm just fond of being root spontaneously, I guess. :P
[11:45] <gnomefreak> rapha: i need you to open a tty or terminal with a $ sign
[11:45] <boricua> LinuxJones: http://pastebin.ca/66377
[11:45] <LinuxJones> dicesquirrel, you added the proper horz and vert sync settings for your monitor ?
[11:46] <rapha> gnomefreak: I'm root right now. What I can do, if that's good enough for you, is try and "su rapha".
[11:46] <dicesquirrel> LinuxJones: oddly enough, the preferences pane for Screen Res lists resolutions that I haven't even listed in xorg.conf
[11:46] <Amheirchion> hhmm, is there anybody that would be able to help me out? i realise it is busy in here, so if not, no worries.
[11:46] <Stormx2> If I have a deb, how can I check what it suggests/recommends?
[11:46] <Mikelo> !cedega
[11:46] <Draconicus> Amheirchion: Don't ask to ask. Just ask. :P
[11:46] <ubotu> To install cedega please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[11:46] <dicesquirrel> LinuxJones: I was not told to do that. Where and how would I do that?
[11:46] <Jeruvy> neone tell me how to get my server back into ipv4 space?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> rapha: if you set up the su password thats why sudo doesnt work
[11:46] <crimsun_> Draconicus: ok, what was the procedure you followed?
[11:46] <Jemt> Greetz. Does anyone know if some of the Ubuntu developers are looking into the bug in Dapper which causes the OS to freeze? Several different people have reported the bug - ie. here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193283  and  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196562
[11:46] <Amheirchion> Draconicus, i already did ask, noone responded
[11:47] <Draconicus> Amheirchion: Oh. Usually that means that nobody knows...
[11:47] <rapha> gnomefreak: I didn't set up anything. This is a FRESH install. I'm in recovery mode now. That's why I'm root already. If you need me to become a regular user, I could try that with "su <myusername>".
[11:47] <bbrazil> Jemt: do you have a link to the bug report in launchpad?
[11:47] <Stormx2> If I have a deb file, how can I check what other packages suggests/recommends?
[11:47] <LinuxJones> dicesquirrel, you have to do that if you want to get your resolutions with optimal refresh rates if your monitors settings are not automagically found for you.
[11:47] <Amheirchion> decided to install dapper onto my old pc, i had breezy on there before i reinstalled windows on it to lend to a friend, but when i install dapper i don't get a nice shiny login screen, instead i get a page of text with "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ubuntu ttyl" at the top, does anyone have any ideas or help for a linux nub?
[11:47] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I mounted the root partition (hda1), removed /mnt/hda1/var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[11:48] <rapha> gnomefreak: okay, "su rapha" works. I'm a regular user now, "shell with a $" as you expressed it.
[11:48] <udo> does anyone have mutella?
[11:48] <Tonren> Hey guys, I used to be able to browse Windows Network workgroupswith Nautilus, but now I get an error: "The folder contents could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshome"."  Any hints?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> rapha: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Then I edited /mnt/hda1/etc/init.d/alsa-utils, putting "return 0" on a new line between the options being set and the line you described.
[11:48] <gnomefreak> rapha: let me know if permission denied
[11:48] <boricua> LinuxJones: did u see this
[11:48] <boricua> LinuxJones: http://pastebin.ca/66377
[11:48] <rapha> gnomefreak: Yes. Permission denied to /etc/sudoers.
[11:49] <dicesquirrel> LinuxJones, I don't see in xorg.conf where I should set these values. I don't see horizontal or vertical sync rates mentioned at all. Does the fact that I have fglrx change anything? I'm using a Radeon 9000 Mobility card.
[11:49] <loki505> hey is there anyway to get my wifi max to work on here for my psp
[11:49] <Jemt> bbrazil: Oh, no bug report - I've only seen reports on the forum :)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> rapha: by enabling su you are no longer in the sudoers list
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rapha about root
[11:49] <NoUse> rapha did you run chmod after installation?
[11:49] <rapha> gnomefreak: I didn't enable su the way you think. I didn't enable anything at all.
[11:49] <NoUse> gnomefreak suod can'd even read /etc/sudoers
[11:49] <rapha> gnomefreak: plus, I'm still in the admin group as "id rapha" tells me.
[11:49] <Discipulus> so cdrecord sees my cdrw but I can't mount the cd in it nor can k3b see it
[11:49] <Jemt> bbrazil: No one seems to be able to track down the error. It happens randomly. I'm switching to Gentoo now - can't work with this sort of OSes - way to unstable for me
[11:50] <gnomefreak> NoUse: no it wont
[11:50] <loki505>  hello can anybody answer my question please
[11:50] <bbrazil> Jemt: you using nvidia/ati drivers?
[11:50] <Jemt> bbrazil: I was quite pleased with Breezy though
[11:50] <Jeruvy> if /etc/network/interfaces shows eth0 on a inet, why does it ifup in inet6 ??
[11:50] <Jemt> bbrazil: Yep, ATI
[11:50] <rapha> gnomefreak: sudo doesn't even work when I'm root. This isn't your standard, run-of-the-mill problem :-)
[11:50] <LinuxJones> boricua, here is mine replace it with yours  >> http://pastebin.ca/66380
[11:50] <NoUse> gnomefreak what?
[11:50] <bbrazil> Jemt: then good luck
[11:50] <crimsun_> Draconicus: as the first line in the store_levels() function, correct?
[11:50] <Draconicus> I'm installing Breezy on an iMac with a slapdash CD-ROM setup (the original CD-ROM is gone, so I had to use a 5.25" slot loader that I had kicking around) that's making it impossible to copy all of the remaining packages to harddrive. Is this vital to complete the installation?
[11:50] <NoUse> rapha 'ls -l /etc/sudoers'
[11:50] <gnomefreak> NoUse: when enabling su (not knowing what your doing but just doing it) disables sudo
[11:50] <loki505> how do i get my wifi max to work
[11:50] <bbrazil> Jemt: try using the free versions, see if that fixes it
[11:50] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, unless the bug is corrected ofcause. I definately prefer Ubuntu over Gentoo :)
[11:51] <NoUse> gnomefreak thats not true
[11:51] <Jemt> bbrazil: Free versions ?
[11:51] <rapha> gnomefreak: Maybe should clear up one thing. I *am* pretty helpless right now, but have been using Linux since 1999 and even did LFS exclusively for 3 years. So I know my way around ;-)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> NoUse: it is thats why he cant use sudo
[11:51] <rapha> NoUse: 0440. When I set it to 0444 I get "should be 0440"
[11:51] <bbrazil> Jemt: don't use the binary ati driver, I don't know how to disable/enable it
[11:51] <NoUse> gnomefreak no
[11:51] <NoUse> gnomefreak look at the error message
[11:51] <gnomefreak> rapha: type su <enter>
[11:51] <gnomefreak> rapha: when you have su console run apt-get update
[11:51] <NoUse> gnomefreak sudo is gett a permssion denied when trying to *read* /etc/sudoers - his permissions are screwed up
[11:51] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Second line. The first contains         [ -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state ]  || return 1
[11:51] <Snowfairy> Is there anyone knowledgeble about iptables around?  I need help adding a chain that simply passes all incoming and outgoing packets through it and then onto the rest of the firewall script I have as appropriate.   Current script is posted: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15833
[11:52] <gnomefreak> NoUse: i know
[11:52] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Should I change it? Get rid of the first line or something?
[11:52] <dicesquirrel> LinuxJones: any thoughts on how I can get that 1400x1050 resolution?
[11:52] <rapha> gnomefreak: okay, did that apt-get update.
[11:52] <Jemt> bbrazil: I havn't touched the drivers - and Breezy worked like a charme with what ever driver it came with. Besides, I have also tried the VESA driver which didn't fix my problem
[11:52] <gnomefreak> NoUse: because he enabled su password
[11:52] <gnomefreak> NoUse: watch apt-get update in root will work
[11:52] <rapha> gnomefreak: I di NOT enable ANYthing.
[11:52] <boricua> LinuxJones: where is the problem in mine?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> rapha: it worked?
[11:52] <bbrazil> Jemt: hmm, vesa should do roughly the same thing
[11:52] <NoUse> gnomefreak sudo doesn't have anything to do with su
[11:52] <rapha> Of course will apt-get update work in recovery mode gnomefreak
[11:52] <bbrazil> Jemt: anything else odd about your system?
[11:52] <FlimFlamMan> hi.  i have debian-stable on my machine.  i'd like to install dapper on a spare partition.  should i use the regular ubuntu i386 desktop install cd ?
[11:52] <rigonatti> does anyone know if i can put multiples diferents backgrounds for each Dektop Area in Ubuntu ?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> rapha: yes you did because su is disabled by default ubuntu uses sudo by default
[11:53] <rapha> gnomefreak: let me repeat. The root user does NOT have a password.
[11:53] <Draconicus> rigonatti: In GNOME? I don't think you can.
[11:53] <BHSPitMonkey> I see that in my installation, there are files related to ipw2200 in /lib/modules/...../kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[11:53] <rapha> gnomefreak: I didn't use su. I am in RECOVERY MODE. When you boot, and select "Recovery Mode" in the GRUB menu...
[11:53] <BHSPitMonkey> but why isn't my ipw2200 detected?
[11:53] <rigonatti> Draconius ..yes ..using Gnome a have 3 Desktops ...but the same background for all
[11:53] <rapha> NoUse: any ideas?
[11:53] <Jemt> bbrazil: Yes, the build-in wireless network card was not found - which also worked in Breezy. Well, actually it IS found sometimes - 1 out of 10 times (boots), it is found and accessible
[11:54] <gnomefreak> rapha: thats why i asked you to boot normally and get a terminal
[11:54] <NoUse> rapha run 'ls -l /etc/sudoers' what permsisions are set?
[11:54] <bbrazil> Jemt: laptop?
[11:54] <quux> How much memory does Dapper use, default install, just sitting at an empty desktop with no apps running?
[11:54] <rapha> gnomefreak: when I did that, I got the same error message.
[11:54] <Draconicus> rigonatti: I'm pretty sure they all have to have the same background. GNOME only sets one background picture.
[11:54] <calisee> is there anyway I can turn my laptop monitor off whiel using external monitor?
[11:54] <rapha> NoUse: 0440, it's owned by root:root.
[11:54] <alberto> oi
[11:54] <Draconicus> quux: Technically, sitting at an empty desktop, a LOT of apps are running. :P
[11:54] <rigonatti> Draconius txs ....so sad uh ?  even if a aplet or app does that :(
[11:55] <Jemt> bbrazil: Yep
[11:55] <bbrazil> Jemt: someone suggested disabling irda earlier
[11:55] <Jemt> bbrazil: IBM X31, ATI Mobility M6 graphics card (Radeon series i guess), 512 MB DDR Ram
[11:55] <quux> Draconicus: ok ... 'no apps invoked by user'
[11:55] <NoUse> rapha do the same for /usr/bin/sudo, does it have the sticky bit set?
[11:55] <FlimFlamMan> can i install dapper on a spare partition without messing up an existing debian-stable install?
[11:55] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: yes
[11:55] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control.
[11:56] <FlimFlamMan> bbrazil, so the install won't automatically install over anything
[11:56] <Draconicus> quux: I could still counter that, but I'm not sure. Try running in the Live CD mode and check out the System Monitor in GNOME.
[11:56] <Jemt> bbrazil: I doubt it has anything to do with drivers. If you read the forum posts you will see why. My guess would be a bug in x.org. But how do I disable irDa ?
[11:56] <crimsun_> Draconicus: you need to be in the store_levels() function, which is line 79 according to my COLUMNS
[11:56] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: only if you ask it to
[11:56] <calisee> is there anyway I can turn my laptop monitor off while using external monitor?
[11:56] <rixth> I have even moved /usr/share/sounds/login.wav to another location and I STILL hear it.
[11:56] <FlimFlamMan> bbrazil, thanks
[11:56] <quux> Ahh, I was oping to get a quick (rough guess) answer *before* downloading
[11:56] <bbrazil> Jemt: random crashes are usually either drivers or hardware
[11:56] <quux> *hoping
[11:56] <rapha> NoUse: yes. -rwsr-xr-x is what is shown by ls -l. And the file name is with a bright red background, at first I thought it to be a dead link... never seen that before.
[11:56] <rixth> calisee, look for the xorg.conf directive 'ServerLyout'
[11:56] <rapha> NoUse: owned by root:root.
[11:57] <NoUse> rapha its like that on my machine too
[11:57] <Jemt> bbrazil: Ok
[11:57] <NoUse> rapha https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[11:57] <NoUse> rapha that can at least get you root
[11:57] <BHSPitMonkey> quux: the livecd would give you an inaccurate portrayal of the ram usage, anyway
[11:57] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, it's not a crash - it just freezes - leaving me with no other choice then to power off
[11:57] <NoUse> rapha set a password for root, etc
[11:57] <bbrazil> Jemt: that's a crash
[11:57] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Whoops. I was in restore_levels(). Fixed it. :P
[11:58] <rapha> NoUse: I am root. Through the recovery mode. Even when root tries to run "sudo" I get that error, about permission denied to the sudoers file.
[11:58] <calisee> rixth: yeah, what should I be changing there?  it just shows the Screen "atimontor[0] " not showing that two are hooked up, since my external is the same as what is shown on the laptop
[11:58] <crimsun_> Draconicus: for clarity, http://pastebin.ca/66386
[11:58] <Jemt> bbrazil: Ok :)
[11:58] <NoUse> rapha 'cat /etc/sudoers'
[11:58] <calisee> rixth: nevermind fixed, except resolution is off a little bit
[11:59] <rixth> calisee, alrigh t=)
[11:59] <DarthMorlock> whats the diff between the livecd and the alternate cds?
[11:59] <bbrazil> Jemt: does it still respond on the network when that happens?
[11:59] <calisee> rixth: if i add my lcd resolution to tthe lines with the laptop res will that change it?
[11:59] <dicesquirrel> Okay, I'm now running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it's asking me if I want to use the kernel framebuffer device interface. Should I enable or disable this?
[11:59] <rixth> calisee, try it and seE? I dont know
[11:59] <dicesquirrel> The description of what it does it exceedingly vague. In practical terms, what does it do?
[11:59] <Jemt> bbrazil: It's just weird that so many is having this problem. If I could just use the repositories from Dapper in Breezy, I would be fine. The packages in the Breezy repository is sooo outdated
[11:59] <crimsun_> Draconicus: (your change would have worked, too, since it effectively bypassed restoring levels)
[11:59] <calisee> rixth: like my laptop res is "1450x1024" but external needs to be "1280x1024"
[11:59] <DarthMorlock> whats the diff between the livecd and the alternate cds?
[11:59] <calisee> oh ok
[11:59] <valehru> hmm...
[11:59] <rapha> NoUse: looks good. The two lines that are not commented are: "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" and "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[11:59] <rixth> crimsun_, see my sound question? It's really annoying.
[11:59] <valehru> is there a reason why gftp constantly crashes on Dapper?
[11:59] <bbrazil> Jemt: stability is good, new packages aren't everything
[12:00] <Jemt> bbrazil: Nope. Ping'ing the machine does not result in any replies