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DaSkreech | So this chan pretty much dies during Paris? | 04:36 |
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DaSkreech | How was work today? | 04:36 |
Hobbsee | hey DaSkreech | 04:36 |
Hobbsee | i didnt go to work todya...i've got an exam in about an hour or so... | 04:36 |
DaSkreech | Oh! | 04:37 |
DaSkreech | Which exam? | 04:37 |
goldenear | when is paris begining ? | 04:38 |
DaSkreech | I Guess it would be in the wiki | 04:39 |
goldenear | Monday | 04:39 |
DaSkreech | Oh! | 04:40 |
goldenear | I'll be there then :) | 04:40 |
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Hobbsee | computing | 04:41 |
goldenear | Hobbsee: by the way, you've asked for that a few day ago: I'm not a girl :) | 04:41 |
Hobbsee | oh, right :P | 04:42 |
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DaSkreech | Am I allowed to rename Wiki pages? | 05:38 |
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mornfall | ack, departing for paris tomorrow | 09:19 |
mornfall | i am not looking forward to the transportation part | 09:20 |
DaSkreech | Carrying a lot of stuff? | 09:20 |
zakame | hi all | 09:30 |
nixternal | hey there | 09:30 |
nixternal | this is the most action i have seen in here all day & night | 09:30 |
Hobbsee | heya | 09:32 |
zakame | hi nixternal Hobbsee | 09:34 |
nixternal | Hobbsee: good'ay mate ;) | 09:35 |
zakame | hmm, say, where is libxine-extracodecs? | 09:36 |
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nixternal | multiverse | 09:37 |
DaSkreech | how was the exam Hobbsee? | 09:38 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: very easy, but right now i'm trying to salvage dad's computer | 09:40 |
DaSkreech | :-) | 09:41 |
DaSkreech | You are the community technician? | 09:41 |
Hobbsee | well...he asked for a linux cd to fix it... | 09:41 |
DaSkreech | Ah :) | 09:43 |
DaSkreech | Kinda like Blake Ross's Grandad | 09:43 |
DaSkreech | Well I'm going to bed | 09:43 |
DaSkreech | Night all | 09:43 |
imbrandon | linux to rescue winderz, might as well run it ;) | 09:43 |
imbrandon | gnight DaSkreech | 09:43 |
zakame | bye Da | 09:45 |
mornfall | Hobbsee: :] | 09:52 |
Hobbsee | hey mornfall | 09:53 |
Hobbsee | yeah, i think we're almost there | 09:53 |
Hobbsee | he seems to want a file that i'm not sure if it exists, let alone if it's corrupted | 09:53 |
mornfall | brb, need ethanol to clean display | 09:55 |
mornfall | great, clean display ++ | 10:01 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: yay! want to do mine too? | 10:01 |
mornfall | well, i would like to be of some help, but i think you are bit out of reach | 10:09 |
mornfall | oh btw | 10:10 |
mornfall | adept compiles again! | 10:10 |
mornfall | it even starts | 10:10 |
mornfall | i'm almost sure it's faster ;-) | 10:10 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: yay! | 10:11 |
mornfall | as soon as it recompiles i will benchmark it | 10:12 |
Hobbsee | :) | 10:14 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: this is with the caching thingo? | 10:14 |
mornfall | caching thing? | 10:14 |
Hobbsee | thought you had something on your blog about it | 10:14 |
mornfall | i had, but not quite caching | 10:21 |
mornfall | well, it's not faster anyway, from numbers | 10:21 |
Hobbsee | oh | 10:23 |
Hobbsee | pity | 10:23 |
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mornfall | well, it takes some 3 seconds to do a search on my 1.8GHz pentium M | 10:27 |
mornfall | of cpu time that is | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: how much ram there? | 10:27 |
mornfall | gig | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | oh, of cpu time, yeah | 10:28 |
Hobbsee | takes way longer than that here, on the odd occasion that i use it | 10:28 |
freeflying|away | Hobbsee: kopete need which package for support yahoo's webcam? | 10:31 |
Hobbsee | freeflying|away: libjasper-runtime as a dep, and probably libjasper-1.701-dev as a b-d | 10:32 |
Hobbsee | freeflying|away: i've only tested with both there | 10:32 |
freeflying|away | Hobbsee: okey, I'll rebuild it tomorrow | 10:33 |
Hobbsee | k | 10:33 |
mornfall | mouarf | 10:39 |
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mornfall | let's try with -O2 | 11:26 |
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imbrandon | heya Riddell-awa | 12:02 |
imbrandon | enjoying france ? | 12:02 |
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Riddell-awa | imbrandon: I'm all pink with sunburn | 12:16 |
mornfall | ouch | 12:17 |
imbrandon | heh | 12:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: ouch! | 12:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: did you do a me, and fall asleep on the beach or something? | 12:21 |
imbrandon | lol | 12:21 |
Hobbsee | s/the beach/in the sun? | 12:21 |
Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: everything disintegrated in your absense. | 12:21 |
Riddell-awa | Hobbsee: no, I took a cruise on la siene and it had no shelter | 12:22 |
Hobbsee | ouchy | 12:23 |
imbrandon | ouch | 12:23 |
Riddell-awa | uh oh, what's broken? | 12:23 |
Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: everything :P | 12:23 |
imbrandon | everything | 12:23 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell-awa: well, we destroyed your unit first, of course, then went and destroyed everything else. was quite fun, really | 12:24 |
imbrandon | actualy i think me and Hobbsee and mornfall ( untill he gets on the plane ) are the only ones arround, everyone is gone or getting ready to leave it seems | 12:24 |
Hobbsee | yeah, that's likely. also, it's saturday here | 12:24 |
imbrandon | here too, i dont think there are many places its still friday | 12:25 |
Hobbsee | and a lot of people arent on during weekends | 12:25 |
imbrandon | cept users lol | 12:25 |
mornfall | i'm leaving around sunday noon | 12:25 |
imbrandon | ahh cool , some reason i thought i was sooner | 12:26 |
imbrandon | s/i/it | 12:26 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: seems a dapper user is having trouble getting adept to open again... | 12:28 |
Hobbsee | [20:25] <animato> 3rd sometimes adept keeps on loading forever for no reason and won't open up | 12:28 |
mornfall | blah | 12:29 |
mornfall | details | 12:29 |
mornfall | that info alone is useless :p | 12:30 |
toma | morning | 12:31 |
imbrandon | morning toma | 12:33 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: haha yeah, i thought so. the guy's in #kubuntu, but is going to upgrade to kde 3.5.3 | 12:33 |
Hobbsee | he's whinging about all the kubuntu dapper bugs, etc, etc, etc, yada yada yada... | 12:33 |
mornfall | tell him to use windows | 12:39 |
mornfall | and stop bitching :) | 12:39 |
hunger | Hobbsee: I can see why people do that:-( | 12:39 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: haha! | 12:39 |
hunger | Hobbsee: I am disappointed in dapper, too. It got regressions from breezy for me and that does not go well with all the "LTS" hype going on right now:-( | 12:40 |
Hobbsee | hunger: hmm? about the bugs? until it's on launchpad, i'm not terribly interested :P especially when they deal with $mypetbugthatinfluencesveryfewpeople | 12:40 |
Hobbsee | hunger: ouch. which regressions? do i want to know? | 12:40 |
mornfall | well, cups for one :p | 12:41 |
hunger | Hobbsee: The biggest issue is that my laptop no longer suspends... plus lots of minor stuff that is not really important but annoying. | 12:41 |
Hobbsee | ah | 12:41 |
hunger | Hobbsee: I filed bugs for everything (before dapper got released), but they did not make it into the release. | 12:42 |
hunger | Hobbsee: I wouldn't mind too much if it were not for the "LTS-best-ubuntu-ever" hype:-| | 12:42 |
Hobbsee | true, there are a lot of bugs there | 12:42 |
Hobbsee | heh, yeah. | 12:42 |
hunger | Hobbsee: Well, I downgraded to breezy again, that was a really fine release. | 12:43 |
hunger | Hobbsee: ... and am waiting for edgy to get steam:-) | 12:43 |
Hobbsee | hunger: oddly enough, most people say that breezy was worse :P | 12:43 |
Hobbsee | yeah, looking forward to that :) | 12:43 |
toma | i think there is a difference in what you can blame 'dapper' and what is caused by the author of a certain application. I guess not being able to suspend is not a real dapper issue. | 12:44 |
hunger | toma: From my understanding that is a kernel bug. So I blame it on dapper. | 12:44 |
Hobbsee | seems like a kernel issue maybe? seeing as there was a different kernel in breezy/dapper. it does seem weird though | 12:44 |
hunger | toma: The really annoying issue is that the box suspends fine, resumes fine. | 12:45 |
toma | hunger: did dapper patch the kernel then? | 12:45 |
hunger | toma: But once it is up it does a nice and clean shutdown. | 12:45 |
Hobbsee | hunger: oh that? i had that for breezy! | 12:45 |
hunger | toma: Of course garbling the screen with this annoying shutdown usplash that keeps breaking, messing up the screen. | 12:46 |
hunger | That damn shutdown graphic makes it impossible to go to single user mode with dapper:-( | 12:47 |
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imbrandon | moins \sh | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | hey \sh | 12:47 |
\sh | re | 12:48 |
toma | hunger: remove the usplash package then | 12:48 |
\sh | did anyone tried to build a pbuilder chroot ? | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | i must say though, dapper's a huge improvement over hoary. | 12:48 |
mornfall | wow, but it runs so much faster in valgrind now :) | 12:48 |
\sh | with debootstrap from edgy installed on dapper? | 12:48 |
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hunger | Well, having said this, dapper has some really nice stuff:-) It is a nice distribution overall. It really hurts having to use breezy on the laptop. | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: yay :) | 12:48 |
mornfall | so let's callgrind it | 12:49 |
\sh | hunger: what's wrong with dapper? | 12:49 |
hunger | \sh: mostly that my laptop does not suspend with it. That makes it pretty useless on that laptop. | 12:49 |
hunger | \sh: Plus a couple of annoyances (mostly usplash related). | 12:49 |
hunger | \sh: I.e. why is the shutdown usplash run from the kdm init-script? a) it breaks 8 out of 10 times, messing up the screen and b) it makes it impossible to go to singleuser mode. | 12:51 |
\sh | hunger: well, yes the laptop keys...did you try to call /etc/acpi/sleep.sh manually? | 12:52 |
hunger | \sh: Yes. The laptop suspends fine, resumes fine and then automatically does a nice and clean shutdown. | 12:52 |
\sh | even with the latest kernel update? | 12:53 |
hunger | \sh: So basically everything works fine... it is just not really useable:-) | 12:53 |
hunger | \sh: Yeap. | 12:53 |
toma | why does a broken suspend has to be with being able to use it? | 12:54 |
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hunger | toma: Suspend is about saving time:-) A resume-shutdown-startup cycle is somewhat longer than a resume cycle:-) | 12:55 |
toma | hunger: how ofte do you do that in a day? | 12:55 |
hunger | toma: I suspend about 10 to 20 times a day, depending on how much I have to travel. | 12:56 |
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toma | Hobbsee: do i smell capuchino? | 12:56 |
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Hobbsee | toma: possibly, i dont drink coffee :P | 12:56 |
hunger | toma: shuting down/restarting is not the issue, but getting all the apps with all the data started again is. | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | \sh: haha | 12:57 |
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\sh | Hobbsee: you are not allowed to drink beer, right? ;) | 01:00 |
Hobbsee | \sh: well... | 01:00 |
Hobbsee | \sh: in a month or so, i'm legal to - so they wont sell it to me | 01:00 |
hunger | \sh: What do you think why he is giving the stuff away? ;-) | 01:00 |
Hobbsee | whether they'd serve it to me, seeing how old i look, is an interesting question | 01:00 |
\sh | hunger: well, because she likes me? ;) | 01:01 |
Hobbsee | \sh: but besides that, i dont like the taste of the stuff. and there are other reasons too | 01:01 |
ajmitch_ | heh | 01:01 |
Hobbsee | heya ajmitch_! | 01:02 |
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\sh | hey ajmitch_ | 01:02 |
hunger | Hobbsee: Oh, sorry, I had assumed you were male. | 01:02 |
ajmitch_ | hello | 01:02 |
Hobbsee | hunger: :) most people do. | 01:02 |
Hobbsee | back soon | 01:03 |
ajmitch_ | hunger: there are rumours that there are females on irc | 01:03 |
hunger | Hobbsee: Too few women in the FOSS world:-( | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | they are false though, utterly and totally false. | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | :P | 01:03 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: of course... | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | hunger: i dont blame them, they have to put up with a lot if they want to be a part. | 01:03 |
hunger | ajmitch_: Yes, I keep hearing that, too... but I never noticed one yet. | 01:04 |
\sh | I know some women working on FOSS or promoting at least the usage of FOSS | 01:04 |
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Hobbsee | back in a bit - although i'd prefer to stay here | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | hold this conversatoin :P | 01:04 |
hunger | Hobbsee: Yes, I know:-( Men are idiots. | 01:04 |
hunger | \sh: So do I... But still I do assume people in IRC to be male. | 01:04 |
\sh | ajmitch_: did you try out creating a edgy chroot (debootstrap or pbuilder)? | 01:05 |
\sh | hunger: how can you tell? | 01:05 |
hunger | \sh: Tell what? | 01:05 |
\sh | I just pretend that I'm a man..but in real life, I'm a woman >:-> | 01:05 |
\sh | just joking | 01:06 |
hunger | \sh: I can not tell... but if I went round assuming people here were female then my rate of error would be higher:-) | 01:06 |
\sh | actually it doesn't matter if men or women# | 01:07 |
hunger | Although that is nothing but an assumption based on how many women I see at tradeshows:-) | 01:07 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: no, I've only dist-upgraded dapper chroots | 01:07 |
\sh | ajmitch_: can you try to confirm this | 01:08 |
\sh | After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. | 01:08 |
\sh | Setting up udev (093-0ubuntu1) ... | 01:08 |
ajmitch_ | hm, last time I saw \sh he didn't look like a woman.. | 01:08 |
\sh | /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.postinst: line 82: my_persistent_disk_rules: command not found | 01:08 |
\sh | dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): | 01:08 |
\sh | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 | 01:08 |
hunger | \sh: Not here, no. Even though I think some men will behave totally moronic once they spot a female here:-( | 01:08 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: yes, and about 30 other people who have filed that bug as a duplicate in malone | 01:08 |
\sh | oh well, I'm too slow today | 01:08 |
ajmitch_ | :) | 01:08 |
ajmitch_ | it's been there for about 2-3 days | 01:08 |
\sh | ajmitch_: and this? | 01:08 |
\sh | I: Configuring ubuntu-keyring... | 01:08 |
\sh | W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. | 01:08 |
\sh | W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. | 01:08 |
\sh | during debootstrap? ;) | 01:09 |
ajmitch_ | that's probably due to the udev thing above | 01:09 |
hunger | I see lots of "can not open file" messages during bootup since I upgraded udev. I assume that is due to incompatibilities and will fix itself once edgy gets a new kernel. | 01:09 |
ajmitch_ | ok, not 30 | 01:09 |
\sh | hmmm...food | 01:10 |
ajmitch_ | only 6 marked as duplicates, surprisingly ;) | 01:10 |
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ajmitch_ | bug 49925 | 01:11 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 49925 in udev "broken postinst" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49925 | 01:11 |
hunger | ajmitch_: I guess there are not many ppl that upgraded to edgy yet. | 01:14 |
Hobbsee | back | 01:14 |
hunger | ajmitch_: THere is nothing to see yet anyway, except for broken locales:-) | 01:14 |
ajmitch_ | welcome back, Hobbsee | 01:15 |
ajmitch_ | hunger: plenty of sources have been synced from debian & are building | 01:15 |
ajmitch_ | I'm guessing that the publisher is needing to be run for them, or is pending.. | 01:15 |
Hobbsee | <hunger> \sh: Not here, no. Even though I think some men will behave totally moronic once they spot a female here:-( <-- yep, seen that. repeatedly. hence the comment about having to put up with a fair bit. | 01:16 |
Hobbsee | thanks ajmitch_ :) | 01:16 |
\sh | ajmitch_: debhelper is waiting for po-debconf, that's why new udev is FTB | 01:17 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: yes, I saw there were a few failures :) | 01:17 |
\sh | tuesday is da day for trying to reactivate my upload rights...let's see what will happen...I'm feverish to upload new stuff ;) | 01:18 |
ajmitch_ | they'll probably let you back in | 01:18 |
Hobbsee | \sh: hehe yay! so we can come and bug you for uploads :D | 01:18 |
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Hobbsee | ajmitch_: dont think you'll get to go anywhere. | 01:19 |
\sh | ajmitch_: no ways...you have to help me :) | 01:19 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: sure I will | 01:19 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: help with what? | 01:19 |
Hobbsee | hmmm...mum's getting sick of the computer problems on the study computer, and now wants a mac. weird. | 01:20 |
\sh | ajmitch_: with everything..we need to fix the universe ;) | 01:20 |
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ajmitch_ | \sh: we'll have < 4 months to fix it all :) | 01:20 |
ajmitch_ | besides, that's what Hobbsee is for | 01:20 |
Hobbsee | what??? | 01:20 |
Hobbsee | what am i doing now? | 01:21 |
\sh | fixing the universe said ajmitch_ | 01:21 |
Hobbsee | oh. doesnt he mean breaking the universe? | 01:21 |
ajmitch_ | we expect her to go to MOTU in the next month or so | 01:21 |
\sh | ajmitch_: next month? why not now? | 01:21 |
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ajmitch_ | because she doesn't have much she's done that's not just fixes | 01:22 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: nah, you need to join the launchpad team yourself, unfortunately | 01:22 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: any bets on when she'll go for core-dev? | 01:22 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: yeah, we're still getting kopete in - there were about 4 of us :P | 01:22 |
\sh | ajmitch_: hmmm.... | 01:22 |
\sh | ajmitch_: in 2 months? | 01:23 |
ajmitch_ | say 2.5 | 01:23 |
\sh | ajmitch_: what about barry? | 01:23 |
ajmitch_ | he's already gone for it | 01:23 |
ajmitch_ | we'll see if he reapplies | 01:24 |
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ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: no, just NZ | 01:24 |
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Hobbsee | hah | 01:24 |
\sh | and simple germany | 01:24 |
Hobbsee | ja, ich nicht spreke Deutsch. | 01:25 |
ajmitch_ | why not? | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | because....because... | 01:25 |
ajmitch_ | you have no reasons | 01:25 |
\sh | and I don't speak english...fair enough ;) | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: becuase i hate being told no | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | \sh: :P | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | \sh: it's about the only german i remember | 01:25 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: will you have time to visit paris at all? | 01:26 |
Sime | is anyone here leaving the Paris meeting on the saturday? (24th) | 01:26 |
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=== \sh imagine Hobsee in a wedding chappel, her groom says no...Hobbsee will explode, bet on it...;) | ||
ajmitch_ | haha | 01:27 |
\sh | ajmitch_: no..it's during the week, I can't take off from work...release schedule | 01:27 |
toma | \sh: yes, he will not be found back | 01:27 |
hunger | \sh: Who wouldn't? | 01:27 |
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\sh | hunger: I think if my bride will tell "No" in front of the priest...I would marry her | 01:28 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: unfortunate | 01:28 |
\sh | oh that was a paradoxon | 01:28 |
Hobbsee | somehow, i suspect that my groom wouldnt leave me at that point - he would have done it ages before that | 01:28 |
toma | \sh: haha | 01:28 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 01:28 |
Hobbsee | \sh: anyway, get me angry enough, and i do explode. think i've only done it a couple of times on ubuntu related stuff though. | 01:29 |
toma | Hobbsee: or he is to scared to do that | 01:29 |
hunger | Hobbsee: Well, I was kind of surprised that my bride did not run away screeming at the altar:-) | 01:29 |
Hobbsee | toma: hehe, now hey, i'm not *that* scary :P | 01:29 |
\sh | hunger: she did see you the first time at the altar? ;)) | 01:29 |
=== \sh listens to a nice song right now...fitting to this conversation...Iced Earth: I died for you... | ||
hunger | \sh: Nope:-) | 01:30 |
toma | Hobbsee: there is no way we can confim that ;-) | 01:31 |
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Hobbsee | toma: not unless someone comes and meets me, then comes back alive | 01:31 |
ajmitch_ | toma: she just needs to get sponsored to the next conference :) | 01:32 |
=== Hobbsee isnt even going to dream about that idea | ||
Hobbsee | seems pretty futile to dream of that | 01:32 |
ajmitch_ | you don't want to dream fo being locked in a hotel for a week with a bunch of geeks? ;) | 01:33 |
toma | Hobbsee: unless you are close to darwin, i can't arrange that soon | 01:33 |
Hobbsee | although i would like to meet up with everyone one day | 01:33 |
\sh | oh...lets wait until riddell votes for you on the internal wiki for sponsorship | 01:33 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: could be fun :P depensd what happens there | 01:33 |
Hobbsee | if i just get to be crazy in person like i am on irc :P | 01:33 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, speaking of kopete , is the code on Riddell's space the latest ? | 01:34 |
imbrandon | heh | 01:34 |
\sh | Hobbsee: believe me, you are surprised, how "normal" all those "crazy irc" people are in real life | 01:34 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: well, some of them | 01:34 |
imbrandon | \sh, or atleaste toned down ;) | 01:34 |
toma | normal as in normal nerds you mean | 01:34 |
ajmitch_ | some of them are just as crazy | 01:34 |
\sh | ajmitch_: e.g.? | 01:34 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: um. well, apachelogger put it up on revu, riddell reviewed it, said there was stuff to be changed - i emailed details to him about what needed fixing that i'd found, but have no reply | 01:34 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: seems like bzr would be useful or something :P | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: jdub | 01:35 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea seeing how you me riddell and freeflying are all working on it lol | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | though he can be quite normal as well | 01:35 |
\sh | ajmitch_: well, yes, but he will be different at home with his wife ;) | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | wiki.ubuntu.com/BzrMaintainerHowto | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: you haven't met pia, have you? | 01:36 |
Hobbsee | thanks ajmitch_ - now we just need the latets code :P | 01:36 |
\sh | ajmitch_: I read about her... | 01:36 |
=== Hobbsee met pia over IRC, actually. | ||
imbrandon | right ... | 01:36 |
=== ajmitch_ has met pia in person a few times | ||
\sh | ajmitch_: don't tell me she was sitting next to jdub, when he dropped his pants | 01:36 |
Hobbsee | \sh: tmi lol | 01:36 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, if you see Riddell-awa later on see if you can figure out where the latest branch is and we'll setup brz | 01:37 |
ajmitch_ | launchpad is great, but a little slow for the initial push | 01:37 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: okay, it's 1.37pm there now, so he should be around somewhere | 01:38 |
imbrandon | yea you just need a ssh key registed with lp right ajmitch_ ? | 01:38 |
ajmitch_ | especially if you use a branch for each patch, since it doesn't use repositories on the server :) | 01:38 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: yep | 01:38 |
\sh | ajmitch_: I tried to upload something to bazaar.launchpad.net...but it didn't work...do I need to be in the core-team to push something to this location? | 01:38 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: if you're pushing to ~ubuntu-core-dev/product/branch | 01:38 |
ajmitch_ | otherwise you push to your own space | 01:38 |
\sh | ajmitch_: that's what I tried | 01:38 |
Hobbsee | ack, i'm deaded | 01:38 |
\sh | ajmitch_: I wanted to push kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts | 01:38 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: to where? | 01:39 |
\sh | ajmitch_: ubuntu-core-dev/... | 01:39 |
\sh | I created a prodct | 01:39 |
ajmitch_ | well you're not in the team, so of course it won't work :) | 01:39 |
imbrandon | ajmitch_, what is "your space" like ~/ or something on lp ? | 01:39 |
ajmitch_ | get reactivated & then try | 01:39 |
\sh | product even (damn german keyboard on this t43) | 01:39 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: sftp://$USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~$USER/$PRODUCT/ubuntu.$NAME | 01:39 |
\sh | ajmitch_: ok..so it's group based :) | 01:39 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: yes, it's all tied to the people & teams on lp | 01:40 |
ajmitch_ | initial push probably requires --create-prefix | 01:41 |
ajmitch_ | I think all that is on the wiki | 01:41 |
Hobbsee | yeah, seems to be | 01:41 |
\sh | ajmitch_: hehe..I read scotts introduction | 01:41 |
=== ajmitch_ tries to recall how to push a branch that isn't against a product | ||
Hobbsee | hmmm...i have no ssh key currently, too | 01:42 |
imbrandon | heh | 01:42 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: I've got some code that isn't packaged yet | 01:42 |
imbrandon | see Hobbsee and its sftp, should have learned a bit of ssh like i said before ;) | 01:42 |
imbrandon | for ? | 01:42 |
ajmitch_ | SoC stuff | 01:42 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah yeah...it's not like iv'e been doing anything else like studying, is it? | 01:42 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, hehhe | 01:43 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: not from what I've heard :P | 01:43 |
\sh | ajmitch_: are you mentoring someone? | 01:43 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: hah no, I'm a student ;) | 01:43 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: oh, and kicking people at random, and dying bloodily cos i got shot. | 01:43 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: mithrandir is my mentor for network authentication | 01:43 |
imbrandon | lol | 01:43 |
\sh | ajmitch_: oh cool :) | 01:43 |
ajmitch_ | with this money, I can go to far off foreign lands | 01:44 |
ajmitch_ | like the north island | 01:44 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 01:44 |
imbrandon | lol | 01:44 |
Hobbsee | i was about to say "like australia?" | 01:44 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: nah, it's cheaper to fly to .au | 01:44 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: hush you @ the study comment. especially hush around my parents about that :P | 01:45 |
ajmitch_ | as if I'd bring it up, ever | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: good :) | 01:45 |
Hobbsee | see to it that you dont. | 01:45 |
ajmitch_ | heh | 01:45 |
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ajmitch_ | sure.. | 01:46 |
\sh | ajmitch_: you grab the money from SoC and come to germany next year during linuxtag time..or this year for linuxexpo in cologne | 01:47 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: I'd love to :) | 01:47 |
=== Hobbsee has a sudden evil plot | ||
Hobbsee | s/plot/plan | 01:47 |
\sh | Hobbsee: you come to germany too? | 01:47 |
Hobbsee | \sh: er, how? | 01:47 |
ajmitch_ | though flying all that way for linuxtag/linuxexpo will cost a lot | 01:47 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: calling it an evil plan doesn't sound that much better | 01:48 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: true | 01:48 |
imbrandon | plan is better than plot how ? | 01:48 |
\sh | ajmitch_: well, visit europe then | 01:48 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: deal with hiver over in #ubuntu, will you? :) | 01:48 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: if I'm working & have the money to spare :) | 01:48 |
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\sh | ajmitch_: wanna work in germany for good money, NOW? :) | 01:49 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: sure :) | 01:49 |
=== Hobbsee was just contemplating putting dad's computer out of action again | ||
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: thanks mate | 01:49 |
ajmitch_ | why would you do that? | 01:50 |
\sh | ajmitch_: you are in this zope/plone business and you are able to port some windows sources to linux? | 01:50 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: what sort of work? | 01:50 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: so he wants the install cd, not the live cd. | 01:50 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: source for what? | 01:50 |
\sh | ajmitch_: or sysadmin stuff? | 01:50 |
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\sh | ajmitch_: I can't tell you anything about it, but it's pure windows crap...and it needs to be ported as native app to linux | 01:51 |
\sh | ajmitch_: frontend | 01:51 |
ajmitch_ | win32 API? | 01:51 |
\sh | ajmitch_: yes | 01:51 |
ajmitch_ | sounds more like a rewrite than a port | 01:51 |
\sh | ajmitch_: first step will be wine anyways as I understood our devs | 01:51 |
ajmitch_ | right | 01:52 |
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\sh | ajmitch_: but just because, it has to be ported asap | 01:52 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: make it up :P | 01:52 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: like australians do with english? ;) | 01:53 |
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Hobbsee | ajmitch_: haha | 01:53 |
=== Hobbsee smacks ajmitch_ | ||
\sh | ajmitch_: try babelfish on http://www.combots.com/jobs_de.html | 01:53 |
\sh | ajmitch_: you will see the list of open positions | 01:53 |
=== Hobbsee goes to his hiding place, and smacks him again. hmph | ||
\sh | ajmitch_: you will learn german in no time, believe me.. | 01:53 |
ajmitch_ | such a sweet, charming girl | 01:54 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 01:54 |
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imbrandon | hmmm \sh looks fun | 01:54 |
\sh | imbrandon: it is :) | 01:55 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: but they need someone now, not next month? :) | 01:55 |
imbrandon | how tolerant would they be of a non german speaker ;) | 01:55 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: a *NZ* non-german speaker, which would be even worse | 01:56 |
\sh | grmpf | 01:56 |
\sh | re | 01:56 |
\sh | we have right now, 55% freelancers, and 45% employees :) | 01:56 |
\sh | so they need personal | 01:56 |
=== Hobbsee ducks before she gets smacked in return :P | ||
\sh | and everybody is talking english as 2nd language | 01:57 |
imbrandon | lol | 01:57 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: I'm not going to smack you :P | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | hmm...this would be easier to read with babelfish | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: sure sure :P | 01:57 |
\sh | s/talking/speaking/ | 01:58 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: it's interesting for sure :) | 01:58 |
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\sh | ajmitch_: send your CV etc. to HR and ask there what they can do... | 01:59 |
\sh | ajmitch_: tell them that you are very involved in debian/ubuntu development etc. and you apply for a job in the sysadmin team..so you land directly at my boss ;) | 02:00 |
\sh | and he is debian fanatic | 02:00 |
ajmitch_ | and you put in a good word for the struggling, poor debian developer? ;) | 02:00 |
imbrandon | ;) | 02:01 |
\sh | ajmitch_: amu did it for me :) | 02:01 |
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toma | typical | 02:02 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: you take far too much pleasure from that | 02:02 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: hehe | 02:02 |
ajmitch_ | power-mad ops.. | 02:02 |
raphink_sleep | ajmitch_: you want to move to Europe? | 02:02 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: you're next :P | 02:03 |
ajmitch_ | raphink_sleep: sure, it'd be fun :) | 02:03 |
raphink_sleep | ajmitch_: nice :) | 02:03 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: you should have seen us last night, gosh it was funny! | 02:03 |
raphink_sleep | my company is also a great place for linux fans | 02:03 |
\sh | raphink_sleep: if we can free australia and new zealand, we have a new prisoners colony for europe ;) | 02:03 |
raphink_sleep | in my service we are about 40 linux system admins | 02:03 |
=== imbrandon is wanting to move to europe also ( was just talking about it last nigtht ) | ||
raphink | \sh: ahah | 02:03 |
raphink | imbrandon: from? | 02:04 |
imbrandon | \sh, lol | 02:04 |
imbrandon | raphink, USA ( Kansas City ) | 02:04 |
Hobbsee | \sh: haha. yes, but wouldnt that requre me from moving too? | 02:04 |
raphink | ok | 02:04 |
raphink | Hobbsee: you can move, too ;) | 02:04 |
\sh | Hobbsee: you have to :) | 02:04 |
raphink | we need linux people in europe :) | 02:04 |
ajmitch_ | we need linux people in NZ | 02:05 |
raphink | well, everywhere I guess ;) | 02:05 |
imbrandon | hehe | 02:05 |
imbrandon | raphink, what company ? | 02:05 |
Hobbsee | me move? eek | 02:06 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: where in .de are you? | 02:08 |
\sh | ajmitch_: I'm near cologne..but the company is in karlsruhe | 02:10 |
ajmitch_ | right | 02:10 |
\sh | cologne <-> karlsruhe around 400km | 02:10 |
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\sh | one way | 02:10 |
Hobbsee | \sh: raphink: i dont think you should tempt me about moving. i might just do it | 02:14 |
mornfall | Hobbsee: so it's really much faster now :] | 02:15 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: yay! | 02:15 |
mornfall | 2 seconds on 800MHz pentium M | 02:15 |
mornfall | 0.5-1s on 1.8GHz pentium M | 02:16 |
imbrandon | nice mornfall | 02:17 |
mornfall | yeah, i'm pretty happy about it :) | 02:17 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: we'll get an update for edgy then? | 02:18 |
Hobbsee | one less thing for people to complain about? | 02:18 |
Hobbsee | no, revise that, they'll find something else to complain about anyway | 02:18 |
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Hobbsee | uh oh, i think i killed the conversation | 02:21 |
imbrandon | heh | 02:22 |
ajmitch_ | well done | 02:22 |
Hobbsee | heh | 02:22 |
=== Hobbsee bows | ||
imbrandon | curtsey | 02:22 |
imbrandon | ;) | 02:22 |
Hobbsee | no, to curtsey i have to be wearing a skirt. | 02:23 |
imbrandon | uhh ok | 02:24 |
ajmitch_ | :) | 02:24 |
imbrandon | hrm i think i'm gonna goto bed and watch a movie ( the new world ) , gnight all | 02:25 |
ajmitch_ | night | 02:25 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: and by association, skirts are impractical. | 02:27 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: try wearing one one day, if you dont believe me, and then try running up and down stairs, and jumping on/off stages. | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | it *is* possible to do it decently, but it does require practice. | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | night ajmitch_ | 02:28 |
toma | is this the kubuntu channel? | 02:29 |
imbrandon | k-d | 02:29 |
Hobbsee | toma: it's the kubuntu development channel, yes | 02:29 |
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toma | Hobbsee: that was fast.... | 02:32 |
Hobbsee | toma: hmmm? | 02:32 |
=== Hobbsee tapes ajmitch_ to the chat, so he cant go anywhere | ||
toma | joining and leaving rsibreak channel | 02:33 |
Hobbsee | toma: oh | 02:33 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: I worry about her | 02:33 |
\sh | ajmitch_: about whom? hobbsee? | 02:34 |
\sh | I'm just jabbering with zerlinna about a training site for kubuntu | 02:35 |
\sh | with moodle...nice idea | 02:35 |
mornfall | Hobbsee: no update | 02:35 |
mornfall | Hobbsee: too many changes | 02:35 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: yeah, Hobbsee | 02:35 |
mornfall | it'll be a small miracle if it makes into edgy | 02:35 |
\sh | ajmitch_: why? | 02:35 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: taping me to the channel, she knows I'm a GNOME user | 02:35 |
\sh | ajmitch_: sometimes she is frightening me ;) | 02:35 |
ajmitch_ | :) | 02:35 |
=== Hobbsee laughs evilly | ||
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: we'll just bring you over to our side :) | 02:36 |
Hobbsee | the good side :P | 02:36 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: er, isnt edgy all about changes? | 02:37 |
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mornfall | maybe | 02:37 |
mornfall | but the schedule is tight | 02:37 |
Hobbsee | ah okya | 02:37 |
Hobbsee | thanks imbrandon - duct tape *always* seems to come in handy. | 02:37 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: not likely.. | 02:37 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: :) | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | well, you tried to get me to gnome :P | 02:38 |
ajmitch_ | not really | 02:38 |
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ajmitch_ | funny | 02:39 |
imbrandon | heh | 02:39 |
ajmitch_ | define 'upstream' | 02:39 |
imbrandon | mono | 02:39 |
ajmitch_ | since trolltech doesn't show much interest in it | 02:39 |
ajmitch_ | not likely to happen | 02:40 |
mornfall | qt#? who cares? | 02:40 |
\sh | who wants qt#? | 02:40 |
imbrandon | i know , its sad but i know | 02:40 |
ajmitch_ | I don't know of any qt# efforts from mono | 02:40 |
imbrandon | _I_ want qt# | 02:40 |
imbrandon | heh | 02:40 |
mornfall | mono doesn't care | 02:40 |
mornfall | they care about gtk :) | 02:40 |
mornfall | if at all | 02:40 |
ajmitch_ | exactly | 02:40 |
imbrandon | exactly | 02:40 |
mornfall | but then, noone cares about mono | 02:40 |
mornfall | so it's even | 02:41 |
mornfall | :-) | 02:41 |
imbrandon | and _I_ == ex windows c# programer that uses kde , that leaves me with using gtk# ;( | 02:41 |
imbrandon | i guess the linux awnser is if i want it build it | 02:41 |
imbrandon | ;) | 02:41 |
imbrandon | or just learn pyqt ( thats what ACTUALY happened ) | 02:42 |
\sh | imbrandon: pyqt | 02:42 |
imbrandon | \sh, yea but i can always hope to leverage my c#, but then again c# daemons with pyqt front ends are good too , that way gtk can be added alter or other front ends made etc | 02:43 |
imbrandon | s/alter/later | 02:43 |
\sh | imbrandon: believe me, python daemons are much faster then this crappy java/mono stuff | 02:44 |
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imbrandon | probbly true | 02:44 |
imbrandon | mono > java for speed anyhow , not as much as native or python but still faster | 02:44 |
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imbrandon | anyhow , i'm off to be , gnight all | 02:46 |
ajmitch_ | night imbrandon | 02:46 |
\sh | wow | 02:46 |
\sh | I got a ride from paris to germany for free | 02:46 |
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ajmitch_ | \sh: great, but when? :) | 02:46 |
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ajmitch_ | not next week? | 02:47 |
\sh | ajmitch_: hehe...I'm not in paris anyways... | 02:47 |
\sh | ajmitch_: but friday she would take me for a ride | 02:47 |
ajmitch_ | heh | 02:47 |
\sh | but cool | 02:47 |
\sh | so I will meet her somehow at froscon next weekend | 02:47 |
ajmitch_ | developer? | 02:48 |
\sh | ajmitch_: fsfe? | 02:50 |
\sh | free software foundation europe_ | 02:51 |
\sh | I would bet | 02:51 |
ajmitch_ | ok | 02:52 |
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\sh | just wrote an email and said thx for the offer... | 02:53 |
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Hobbsee | \sh: :) | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | \sh: i'm really not that scary, you know. i'm probably just a little bit wild :P | 03:00 |
toma | can someone package http://www.digitalfanatics.org/e8johan/ajax/gwt/tictactoe/TicTacToe.html | 03:02 |
toma | i love it | 03:02 |
ajmitch_ | toma: that someone could be you! | 03:08 |
toma | ajmitch_: right. My last package sucked, so I'll try to stay away from it | 03:09 |
ajmitch_ | this is your chance to improve | 03:10 |
toma | ajmitch_: i rather do some coding and leave the packaging to the experts | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | toma: er, what the? you mean, package the java applet? | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | *javascript | 03:12 |
toma | not? | 03:12 |
\sh | Hobbsee: I believe you... | 03:14 |
Hobbsee | wow, an irc conversation with Riddell-awa is in a python script in a package | 03:15 |
\sh | which package? | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | displayconfig-hwprobe.py is the file | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | what's the command to run the hardware detection again? i've forgotten | 03:19 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: only 3 lines :) | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | true. i was just searching thru files | 03:21 |
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ajmitch_ | no thanks | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | no, not you :P | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | back in a bit | 03:24 |
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\sh | toma: it's ajax javascript | 03:25 |
\sh | cool...jabber.kubuntu.de goes live | 03:26 |
toma | wow, you are still taking me far to serious | 03:26 |
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\sh | toma: you are kde dev...actually I rely on you ;) | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | i'm baaaaaaaaaaaack! run in fear :P | 03:27 |
jpatrick | Hobbsee: I just got here.. | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | hey jpatrick :) | 03:27 |
toma | \sh: relying on me is a bad idea in general ;-) | 03:28 |
jpatrick | \sh: now that Edgy's open should I reupload kxdocker? | 03:28 |
hunger | Hobbsee: Didn't you claim a while back that you are not that scary? | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | hunger: yeah | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | i'm not | 03:28 |
jpatrick | hi Hobbsee | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | much | 03:28 |
ajmitch_ | yes you are | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | actually, when i'm screaming at you, then i might well be, but otherwise... | 03:28 |
\sh | jpatrick: well, if you can create a running edgy chroot, sure ;) | 03:28 |
hunger | Hobbsee: So there is no need to run in fear, is there? | 03:28 |
\sh | or wait until it's compiled | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | hunger: well...you could just run that way... | 03:29 |
hunger | So which kde version is supposed to be in edgy? I guess 4.0 won't be out till then... Will there be a 3.6 or something? | 03:29 |
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Hobbsee | hunger: 3.5.4 probably | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | assuming feature freeze is after july | 03:30 |
Hobbsee | er, you could just run away in fear anyway | 03:30 |
hunger | Hobbsee: feature freeze of ubuntu or kde? | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | hunger: of ubuntu | 03:32 |
ajmitch_ | night all | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | night ajmitch_ | 03:36 |
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raphink | night ajmitch_ | 03:42 |
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seaLne | how do you unmark as duplicate? | 04:02 |
Hobbsee | seaLne: good question...ask in #launchpad ? | 04:02 |
seaLne | ah click on mark as duplicate then delete the number | 04:03 |
Hobbsee | ah | 04:03 |
seaLne | that is very counter intuative | 04:03 |
Hobbsee | rather, yes | 04:03 |
seaLne | but was the only thing i could see to do | 04:03 |
hunger | seaLne: It is well in line with the launchpad HIG IMHO :-( | 04:03 |
\sh | seaLne: file a bug | 04:04 |
seaLne | is /products/launchpad the write one? | 04:05 |
\sh | yes | 04:05 |
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seaLne | bah after all that it was a duplicate, i need more caffeine | 04:15 |
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Hobbsee | night all | 04:55 |
\sh | sleep tight Hobbsee | 04:55 |
toma | night Hobbsee | 04:55 |
Hobbsee | \sh: toma :) | 04:55 |
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nixternal | kalamazoo ey? | 05:28 |
nixternal | LeeJunFan: ^^ | 05:29 |
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LeeJunFan | nixternal: no, that's just where my DSL line runs. | 05:53 |
LeeJunFan | nixternal: Cheboygan. | 05:53 |
nixternal | ahhh...i am fron the area originally...all my family is there...around benton harbor | 05:53 |
nixternal | kalamazoo, pawpaw, cheboygan, grand rapids...and many more ;) | 05:54 |
LeeJunFan | Cool. I'm actually a NY'er up until about 10 years ago. | 05:54 |
nixternal | watervliet too...not many people know of that town..unless they are a pilot | 05:54 |
nixternal | wow...from NY to the sticks...that had to be a big time change ;) | 05:55 |
LeeJunFan | nixternal: not really, I lived in the sticks in NY too. Western NY, not the city. | 05:55 |
LeeJunFan | nixternal: still quite a bit slower paced than the cities I was used to in NY though. | 05:56 |
nixternal | ahhh | 05:56 |
nixternal | all of michigan is slow paced ;) | 05:56 |
LeeJunFan | nixternal: yeah, I agree. | 05:57 |
nixternal | what actually kills me...is everyone in south western michigan talks like they are from kentucky or futher south...i don't know where they get it from, they are yankees ;) | 05:57 |
nixternal | you probably don't notice it though...see im in chicago now...and when i talk to my family there or visit i get a kick out of it | 05:58 |
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LeeJunFan | Yeah, from where I was in NY to here there's not much of an accent change. | 05:58 |
LeeJunFan | Although I always get picked on for saying upstate instead of Up North :) | 05:59 |
nixternal | one of these days i will be living in mi again | 05:59 |
nixternal | lol...i have family that say the same thing..as most of htem in mi came from rochester, ny | 05:59 |
LeeJunFan | Yeah, I was from Jamestown NY, about 3-4 hrs from Rochester if I recall. I've never been there, but I had a cousin there. | 06:01 |
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uniq | kdesu is missing a dependendy on sudo. | 07:10 |
jpatrick | ouch | 07:31 |
\sh | edgy? | 07:33 |
raphink | can syncs/merges be requested to elmo yet? | 07:33 |
raphink | he synced a package but it's missing a dependency that should be synced too | 07:34 |
\sh | syncs are done via launchpad | 07:35 |
raphink | ah? | 07:35 |
raphink | where? | 07:35 |
\sh | I think via subscribing ubuntu-something...damn..I forgot that thing | 07:35 |
\sh | or was it backports? | 07:36 |
raphink | hmmm | 07:37 |
\sh | ask siretart he has to know ;) | 07:37 |
raphink | yes | 07:37 |
raphink | since he's performing some | 07:37 |
\sh | oh..i need to package nexuiz | 07:41 |
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mornfall | someone can think of something i shouldn't forget to take to paris? | 08:13 |
uniq | laptop powersupply. | 08:15 |
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\sh | mornfall: a well trained liver ;) | 08:23 |
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mornfall | hehe | 08:30 |
\sh | mornfall: and don't think about sleeping ;) | 08:30 |
mornfall | pff | 08:31 |
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Tonio_ | hi | 08:51 |
toma | hi Tonio_ | 08:51 |
Tonio_ | hey toma | 08:52 |
Tonio_ | did you already use a bluetooth mouse ? | 08:52 |
Tonio_ | I just bought one and I have pain to make it work | 08:52 |
toma | no, i've nothing bluetooth | 08:52 |
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Tonio_ | re | 09:24 |
Tonio_ | mouse is working ;) | 09:24 |
Tonio_ | just sad that this cannot be done with kde-bluetooth... | 09:24 |
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OdyX | Tonio_: how did you make it ? | 09:35 |
Tonio_ | plug and play ;) | 09:35 |
Tonio_ | just that it apparently didn't have enough battery | 09:36 |
OdyX | Bluetooth ? | 09:36 |
OdyX | arf... | 09:36 |
Tonio_ | but I could force it manually in /etc/default/bluez-utils in case it wouldn't work | 09:36 |
OdyX | sure... | 09:36 |
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OdyX | its' fun | 09:37 |
Tonio_ | the only thing that surprises me is that if it works without config, that can cause a little issue of several mice are arround.... | 09:37 |
OdyX | sure... | 09:37 |
Tonio_ | so I removed the config, and I'm going to reboot to check, since that's a bit surprising... | 09:38 |
OdyX | but the mouse is "pure Bluetooth" or "mouse+dongle" ? | 09:38 |
Tonio_ | pure bluetooth | 09:38 |
OdyX | fine... | 09:38 |
Tonio_ | but since my laptop doesn't have embedded bluetooth, I'm using a dongle | 09:38 |
OdyX | you should try bluemote... It's fun... :D | 09:38 |
Tonio_ | I will ;) | 09:39 |
Tonio_ | thanks for the info | 09:39 |
Tonio_ | rebooting now | 09:39 |
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OdyX | Tonio_: just note that bluemote is not packaged... | 09:41 |
OdyX | But with that frontend: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23061 <- it rocks | 09:42 |
Tonio_ | OdyX: well do it :) | 09:42 |
OdyX | Tonio_: ;-) I'll maybe give it a try. | 09:42 |
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\sh | people, we need more kubuntu blogger...for universe.kubuntu.de... | 09:53 |
OdyXydO | \sh: german speaking ? | 09:59 |
OdyXydO | \sh: even "swiss german" writing ? | 09:59 |
OdyXydO | ;-) | 09:59 |
\sh | OdyXydO: no. you can write in zulu as well :) | 09:59 |
\sh | OdyXydO: language doesn't matter | 10:00 |
\sh | OdyXydO: as long you are using kubuntu as main desktop | 10:00 |
OdyXydO | \sh: so... why having a *.de domain name ? | 10:00 |
\sh | OdyXydO: because kubuntu.org is hosted by canonical, and some things can't be installed on canonical servers | 10:01 |
OdyXydO | and no planet.kubuntu.org ? | 10:01 |
OdyXydO | Ok | 10:01 |
\sh | planet.kubuntu,de is the official kubuntu planet ;) | 10:01 |
\sh | powered by kubuntu.de ;) | 10:01 |
\sh | OdyXydO: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/215-planet.kubuntu.de-announcement.html | 10:02 |
OdyXydO | and universe ? is like "all that cannot be on planet".kubuntu.de ? | 10:02 |
\sh | OdyXydO: planet. is for the official members, developers | 10:02 |
\sh | OdyXydO: universe is for anybody else | 10:02 |
\sh | who are using kubuntu | 10:02 |
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Tonio_ | re | 10:17 |
Tonio_ | okay last point is to find a mini-pci bluetooth module for my laptop :) | 10:17 |
Tonio_ | does it exist ? | 10:17 |
Tonio_ | never heard about, but that should | 10:17 |
\sh | Tonio_: it's included when you have bluetooth ;) | 10:18 |
Tonio_ | \sh: the problem is my laptop doesn't have :) | 10:19 |
Tonio_ | \sh: so I'm searching for a mini-pci card or maybe pcmcia one... | 10:19 |
\sh | Tonio_: then you need a mini pci card ...;) from your laptop vendor, or use a bluetooth usb dongle ;) | 10:19 |
Tonio_ | \sh: any idea if that could exist in mini-pci format ? | 10:19 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I do with a dongle actually, but I'd like to avoid pluging it everytimt ;) | 10:20 |
\sh | Tonio_: which laptop vendor? | 10:20 |
Tonio_ | \sh: sony | 10:20 |
Tonio_ | I searched without success till now | 10:20 |
\sh | hehe | 10:21 |
\sh | http://www.siliconpopculture.com/sonytr/viewtopic.php?p=6414&sid=04a454f12f51011de751972a46b5326d | 10:21 |
Tonio_ | nice :) | 10:22 |
Tonio_ | although I'd like to avoid combos, since I have a centrino and the support is nice :) | 10:22 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I would prefer to avoid any soirt of conflict :) | 10:22 |
\sh | Tonio_: call sony support..I think it's the only reliable way to get informations | 10:23 |
Tonio_ | \sh: that's the best thing to do probably yes | 10:23 |
Tonio_ | I know their support is one of the bests | 10:24 |
Tonio_ | \sh: but why should I focus on my constructor ? | 10:24 |
Tonio_ | isn't mini-pci a standard ? | 10:24 |
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Tonio_ | it should be possible to use hardware from any company no ? | 10:24 |
\sh | yes, but as always, the manufactures are messing around | 10:25 |
mornfall | http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/random-screens/adept-filters-draft0.png | 10:25 |
Tonio_ | \sh: thanks for the infos :) | 10:25 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: very nice ! | 10:26 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: I just noticed adept filter field doesn't seem to perform "a OR b" kind of search | 10:26 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: only phrase type search | 10:26 |
mornfall | it does ANDing | 10:26 |
mornfall | ah you mean quick search | 10:27 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: yes, only phrase mode | 10:27 |
Tonio_ | so to search for example "newsgroups kde" | 10:28 |
Tonio_ | doesn't work ;) | 10:28 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: can I use an "AND" tag or something ? | 10:28 |
Tonio_ | to search for newsgroup and kde in description for example | 10:28 |
mornfall | no, it doesn't recognize any keywords | 10:30 |
mornfall | plain substring search | 10:30 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: okay, thanks | 10:33 |
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kwwii | evening | 10:55 |
Tonio_ | hey kwwii;) | 10:55 |
kwwii | anyone build new packages for inkscape? | 10:55 |
kwwii | hi Tonio_ | 10:55 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I think I will buy a pcmcia card... less expensive than minipci stuff | 10:55 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: that will probably be merged from debian I presume | 10:56 |
DaSkreech | Oh :-( No Hobbsee :( | 10:56 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: what timle for monday morning ? | 10:56 |
kwwii | Tonio_: the first wine, you mean? | 10:57 |
kwwii | :p | 10:57 |
mornfall | http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/random-screens/adept-filters-draft1.png | 10:57 |
kwwii | the meetings start at 9:00 usually | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: hehe ;) | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | great, I'll try to be there at 8h30 | 10:57 |
kwwii | Tonio_: usually you can catch everyone at breakfast first | 10:58 |
kwwii | I fly in tomorrow afternoon | 10:58 |
\sh | kwwii: they start 9am sharp ;) | 10:58 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: yup, so I presume 8h30 is okay no ? | 10:58 |
kwwii | Tonio_: yeah, I guess anytime between then and 9:00 is great | 10:58 |
mornfall | Tonio_: there = paris? | 10:59 |
\sh | kwwii: and if somebody will miss this hour...he will be cursed by da sabdfl | 10:59 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: yes | 10:59 |
Tonio_ | there = the hotel in fact | 10:59 |
mornfall | are you in launchpad? | 11:00 |
DaSkreech | mornfall: Interesting | 11:00 |
mornfall | registered that is | 11:00 |
DaSkreech | hi crimsun | 11:00 |
kwwii | I guess it is a big hotel, so finding the right rooms might be somewhat of a task | 11:00 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: what do you mean ? | 11:00 |
mornfall | Tonio_: there's launchpad registration thingy for the UDS | 11:00 |
nixternal | kwwii: especially after drinking all night..they tend to become harder to find ;) | 11:00 |
\sh | most likely the hotel has some sort of signs where the summit is | 11:01 |
mornfall | and some bof planning thing | 11:01 |
DaSkreech | mornfall: Whats the screenshot of? | 11:01 |
\sh | and at 8:30 you'll find most of the devs at the breakfast room ;) | 11:01 |
kwwii | hehe | 11:01 |
\sh | or outside for the smoking bof | 11:01 |
Tonio_ | mornfall: hum.... I only subscribed to the wiki page | 11:01 |
mornfall | DaSkreech: it's a draft in qt designer | 11:02 |
\sh | which is somehow a very old bof...postponed every conference..with no real result | 11:02 |
\sh | Tonio_: on launchpad there is this sprint tool..you have to subscribe via lp to the bofs, if not, you are not scheduled :( | 11:02 |
DaSkreech | mornfall: It's a pop up window? | 11:02 |
mornfall | DaSkreech: qt-designer -> preview form | 11:03 |
mornfall | you don't want to see all the red layout boundaries ;) | 11:03 |
DaSkreech | :-) | 11:03 |
mornfall | and load of spacers | 11:03 |
DaSkreech | jpatrick: Hi | 11:03 |
Tonio_ | \sh: ho yes I tried, but launchpad was crashing when I did.... I'l redo it now | 11:03 |
Tonio_ | \sh: isn't that too late ? | 11:03 |
jpatrick | hello DaSkreech | 11:03 |
DaSkreech | Just checking you were talking about kitten the other day? | 11:04 |
\sh | Tonio_: no...it's been scheduled every morning | 11:04 |
jpatrick | DaSkreech: yeah | 11:04 |
\sh | Tonio_: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/31 | 11:04 |
\sh | something about blueprint | 11:04 |
OdyX | [23:04:00] <McPeter> j'en profite pour dire bravo la distrib kubuntu :) <- greetings for devs in -fr | 11:04 |
DaSkreech | jpatrick: Is it a fork of Kat? | 11:04 |
jpatrick | No idea | 11:04 |
jpatrick | I think it is | 11:05 |
DaSkreech | Ah... So what were we talking about? | 11:05 |
Tonio_ | \sh: thanks | 11:05 |
jpatrick | DaSkreech: not sure :| | 11:06 |
DaSkreech | I had gotten the impression you were on the kitten project | 11:06 |
\sh | Tonio_: do me a favour, and show ogra and fabbione the dark sides of paris ...;) | 11:06 |
jpatrick | I'm a packager | 11:06 |
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\sh | jpatrick: dude, you don't put a kitten into a package, do you? | 11:07 |
DaSkreech | \sh: Shhhhhh | 11:07 |
\sh | the little kitten.. | 11:07 |
DaSkreech | Don't let the kat out of the bag! | 11:07 |
jpatrick | \sh: Someone put a kat into a pack | 11:07 |
Tonio_ | \sh: haha :) I promise :) | 11:07 |
DaSkreech | I'd never heard of it before | 11:08 |
DaSkreech | I thought kat was dead | 11:08 |
DaSkreech | Isn't it to be phased out for Tenor? | 11:08 |
\sh | Tonio_: but be careful, both are really heavy party people... | 11:08 |
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Tonio_ | \sh: well the hotel isn't in paris directly, so I will probably not drink to much next week since I'l have to drive every morning to go there :) | 11:10 |
DaSkreech | Sweet KDE4 is in edgy? :-) | 11:10 |
kwwii | nope | 11:10 |
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DaSkreech | Riddell Is in charge of the KDE4 packages for Edgy | 11:11 |
\sh | Tonio_: how far away from mon matre_ | 11:11 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I would say about 30 to 35 km | 11:11 |
\sh | wow | 11:11 |
\sh | that's a cheap one ;) | 11:12 |
DaSkreech | It's in the topic :) | 11:12 |
kwwii | I assume that the hotel is outside of town, or? | 11:12 |
Tonio_ | the hotel is nearby the airport, not in paris | 11:12 |
Tonio_ | yes, 30 km in paris north | 11:12 |
Tonio_ | so it may be a bit weird to go out by night......... | 11:12 |
Tonio_ | that will oblige everyone to work ;) | 11:13 |
\sh | ah charles de gaulle? | 11:13 |
\sh | hollyday inn? | 11:13 |
kwwii | hehe | 11:13 |
Tonio_ | \sh: yes, charles de gaule airport | 11:13 |
kwwii | it means, we all end up going to bed early | 11:14 |
\sh | or a concorde is crashing into the hotel..oh no..there is no concorde anymore ...:( | 11:14 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: in any case nothing prevents from going in paris by night, I could bring you back to your hotel | 11:14 |
kwwii | Tonio_: yeah, I heard that french guys drive really well when drunken :p | 11:15 |
Tonio_ | or you can sleep at home for one night, I have two rooms | 11:15 |
kwwii | cool :-) | 11:15 |
DaSkreech | jpatrick: is there a site for kitten? | 11:15 |
kwwii | we should definitely go out | 11:15 |
kwwii | I need people to give me shit for being American | 11:15 |
\sh | you will, I bet...actually you have to follow fabbione ;) | 11:15 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: yes, we do drive very nice when drunk, but those 3 years, it started becoming very expensive, hehe :) | 11:15 |
\sh | lol | 11:15 |
Tonio_ | so now we are carefull | 11:15 |
kwwii | :-) | 11:16 |
jpatrick | DaSkreech: no | 11:16 |
DaSkreech | :-( | 11:16 |
DaSkreech | mailing list perhaps? | 11:16 |
Tonio_ | I don't want to loose my driving licence, so... | 11:16 |
jpatrick | DaSkreech: http://www.vandenoever.info/ author's page | 11:16 |
Tonio_ | but that doesn't prevent from going in a nice restaurant and take good wine | 11:16 |
DaSkreech | Thanks | 11:17 |
seaLne | does wine not count as alcohol in france? | 11:17 |
jpatrick | nothing about kitten tho | 11:17 |
seaLne | special breathalizers that ignore wine :) | 11:17 |
\sh | wine is staple food in france | 11:18 |
DaSkreech | jpatrick: I was told everytime I did that a kitten died!! | 11:18 |
jpatrick | -> what? | 11:18 |
kwwii | dude, no shit on this one...where I live in Germany, beer is not alcohol | 11:19 |
DaSkreech | >_> | 11:19 |
DaSkreech | <_< | 11:19 |
seaLne | heh | 11:19 |
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\sh | kwwii: which is true...beer is no alcohol...cheers ;() | 11:20 |
seaLne | local shop has nice range of non crap beer | 11:20 |
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DaSkreech | jpatrick: Would you happen to know about Strigi? | 11:20 |
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seaLne | having schofferhofer just now tho that may be consider bad in germany? its fancy here | 11:21 |
kwwii | koelsch is nice | 11:21 |
jpatrick | DaSkreech: nope :/ | 11:21 |
kwwii | \sh: koelsch has more than 5% alcohol, or? | 11:22 |
\sh | kwwii: depends..some yes others not..it's a blond alt bier | 11:22 |
\sh | kwwii: this one has 4.8 | 11:23 |
seaLne | koelsch is a type of bier? | 11:23 |
kwwii | seaLne: yepp, from northern germany | 11:24 |
kwwii | I should bring a case of the real bamberger bier specialty...rauchbier | 11:25 |
kwwii | if beer is liquic bread, then ruachbier is a liquid ham sandwhich | 11:25 |
seaLne | bad for veggies then? | 11:25 |
kwwii | s/sandwhich/sandwich | 11:25 |
kwwii | no, not in that sense | 11:26 |
kwwii | but it is smoked | 11:26 |
seaLne | heh :) | 11:26 |
kwwii | so it has a definite flavor | 11:26 |
seaLne | right | 11:26 |
kwwii | the saying goes "you have to drink two or more of them" | 11:26 |
seaLne | like cheap wine? :P | 11:27 |
kwwii | hehe | 11:27 |
seaLne | :) | 11:27 |
kwwii | my wifes grandfather (98 this year) drinks a warm rauchbier every day at 10:00am | 11:27 |
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\sh | lol...a german beer guide hostet in the uk ;) | 11:29 |
seaLne | well being in english helps me :) | 11:29 |
kwwii | hehe | 11:30 |
kwwii | bamberg is very big in bier | 11:30 |
kwwii | hehe, that page even mentions bamberg | 11:31 |
\sh | the page even mentions frueh koelsch, what I'm drinking right now | 11:32 |
kwwii | hehe | 11:32 |
kwwii | now if we could just get them all to come to a bockbier anstich | 11:32 |
\sh | hehe...I had a lot of maibock during the last weeks | 11:33 |
kwwii | http://www.bambergbeerguide.com/ | 11:33 |
\sh | http://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/v/shermannpics/Karlsruhe2006/HappyKadaverDay2006/ or how people are working outside, when office network goes down | 11:34 |
\sh | even on Corpus Christi | 11:34 |
seaLne | heh | 11:35 |
\sh | lol...another nice comment | 11:37 |
\sh | "It's good your back by the way, planet ubuntu was hermann-less without yee." | 11:37 |
kwwii | so should I test my printer? | 11:38 |
seaLne | cool, i was sad when you temporarily left | 11:38 |
kwwii | how much do I hate myself | 11:38 |
\sh | seaLne: I promised, I come back... | 11:38 |
seaLne | not as much as you hate cups/kde integration? | 11:38 |
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toma | hi superstoned | 11:43 |
superstoned | hi | 11:43 |
superstoned | sorry, i have no time... | 11:43 |
toma | k | 11:43 |
kwwii | well, that failed wonderfully | 11:44 |
kwwii | time to reboot into an OS(x) that *can* print | 11:44 |
kwwii | brb | 11:45 |
\sh | kwwii: maeh | 11:45 |
=== \sh wants an mac os x as well | ||
DaSkreech | Parallels? | 11:46 |
seaLne | \sh: bah boy its non free :) | 11:46 |
kwwii | re | 11:47 |
seaLne | wow just noticed rightclicking in knode has an unrot13 option :) | 11:47 |
\sh | seaLne: but for some usability stuff it could be nice to see what mac os x is doing ;) | 11:48 |
\sh | and I could play WoW natively on mac os x | 11:48 |
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DaSkreech | Yay Wow! | 11:51 |
=== seaLne returns from the fridge after noticing all the bier he has is german :) | ||
=== \sh just finished his last beer for today :) | ||
=== \sh is smoking the last cigarette for today..and goes to bed after that | ||
=== kwwii just lit the last joint for the day | ||
kwwii | oops, did I say that | 11:55 |
kwwii | ? | 11:55 |
seaLne | bah :) | 11:55 |
\sh | kwwii: this channel is logged...the cia will catch you ;) | 11:57 |
kwwii | dude, I *work* for the CIA | 11:58 |
\sh | oh fuck...and I told you that I work for /bin/laden | 11:58 |
jpatrick | that would explain a lot | 11:58 |
jpatrick | \sh: rofl | 11:58 |
seaLne | hehe | 11:58 |
kwwii | off to guatanemo with you | 11:58 |
\sh | nono...I will smoke with bush a cigar, but not guatanemo..nono ;) | 11:59 |
\sh | did I say that? | 11:59 |
kwwii | clinton was the one with the cigar fetish | 11:59 |
\sh | Well, I mean smoke a cigar ...nothing else...I'm not monica | 11:59 |
\sh | kwwii: ok...I'll smoke a cigar and doing some "wuff wuff" sound while around bush...he does like dogs right? | 12:00 |
kwwii | yes! | 12:00 |
\sh | hehe...bush is living in the wrong country then...in denmark he could even make^h^h^h^hlove to^h^hdogs ;) | 12:01 |
\sh | hmmm...bug in konversation...^h handling is wrong | 12:02 |
seaLne | seems to affect some MUAs aswell :) | 12:03 |
\sh | hehe | 12:03 |
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