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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:toma] : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings Mon 26th 21:00UTC
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DaSkreechSo this chan pretty much dies during Paris?04:36
=== DaSkreech moves Hobbsee convo over here:)
DaSkreechHow was work today?04:36
Hobbseehey DaSkreech 04:36
Hobbseei didnt go to work todya...i've got an exam in about an hour or so...04:36
DaSkreechOh! 04:37
DaSkreechWhich exam?04:37
goldenearwhen is paris begining ?04:38
DaSkreechI Guess it would be in the wiki04:39
goldenearMonday04:39
DaSkreechOh!04:40
goldenearI'll be there then :)04:40
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Hobbseecomputing04:41
goldenearHobbsee: by the way, you've asked for that a few day ago: I'm not a girl :)04:41
Hobbseeoh, right :P04:42
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DaSkreechAm I allowed to rename Wiki pages?05:38
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mornfallack, departing for paris tomorrow09:19
mornfalli am not looking forward to the transportation part09:20
DaSkreechCarrying a lot of stuff?09:20
zakamehi all09:30
nixternalhey there09:30
nixternalthis is the most action i have seen in here all day & night09:30
Hobbseeheya09:32
zakamehi nixternal Hobbsee 09:34
nixternalHobbsee: good'ay mate ;)09:35
zakamehmm, say, where is libxine-extracodecs?09:36
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nixternalmultiverse09:37
DaSkreechhow was the exam Hobbsee?09:38
HobbseeDaSkreech: very easy, but right now i'm trying to salvage dad's computer09:40
DaSkreech:-)09:41
DaSkreechYou are the community technician?09:41
Hobbseewell...he asked for a linux cd to fix it...09:41
DaSkreechAh :)09:43
DaSkreech Kinda like Blake Ross's Grandad09:43
DaSkreechWell I'm going to bed09:43
DaSkreech Night all09:43
imbrandonlinux to rescue winderz, might as well run it ;)09:43
imbrandongnight DaSkreech09:43
zakamebye Da09:45
mornfallHobbsee: :] 09:52
Hobbseehey mornfall 09:53
Hobbseeyeah, i think we're almost there09:53
Hobbseehe seems to want a file that i'm not sure if it exists, let alone if it's corrupted09:53
mornfallbrb, need ethanol to clean display09:55
mornfallgreat, clean display ++10:01
Hobbseemornfall: yay!  want to do mine too?10:01
mornfallwell, i would like to be of some help, but i think you are bit out of reach10:09
mornfalloh btw10:10
mornfalladept compiles again!10:10
mornfallit even starts10:10
mornfalli'm almost sure it's faster ;-)10:10
Hobbseemornfall: yay!10:11
mornfallas soon as it recompiles i will benchmark it10:12
Hobbsee:)10:14
Hobbseemornfall: this is with the caching thingo?10:14
mornfallcaching thing?10:14
Hobbseethought you had something on your blog about it10:14
mornfalli had, but not quite caching10:21
mornfallwell, it's not faster anyway, from numbers10:21
Hobbseeoh10:23
Hobbseepity10:23
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mornfallwell, it takes some 3 seconds to do a search on my 1.8GHz pentium M10:27
mornfallof cpu time that is10:27
Hobbseemornfall: how much ram there?10:27
mornfallgig10:27
Hobbseeoh, of cpu time, yeah10:28
Hobbseetakes way longer than that here, on the odd occasion that i use it10:28
freeflying|awayHobbsee: kopete need which package for support yahoo's webcam?10:31
Hobbseefreeflying|away: libjasper-runtime as a dep, and probably libjasper-1.701-dev as a b-d10:32
Hobbseefreeflying|away: i've only tested with both there10:32
freeflying|awayHobbsee: okey, I'll rebuild it tomorrow10:33
Hobbseek10:33
mornfallmouarf10:39
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mornfalllet's try with -O211:26
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imbrandonheya Riddell-awa12:02
imbrandonenjoying france ?12:02
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Riddell-awaimbrandon: I'm all pink with sunburn12:16
mornfallouch12:17
imbrandonheh12:20
HobbseeRiddell-awa: ouch!12:20
HobbseeRiddell-awa: did you do a me, and fall asleep on the beach or something?12:21
imbrandonlol12:21
Hobbsees/the beach/in the sun?12:21
HobbseeRiddell-awa: everything disintegrated in your absense.12:21
Riddell-awaHobbsee: no, I took a cruise on la siene and it had no shelter12:22
Hobbseeouchy12:23
imbrandonouch12:23
Riddell-awauh oh, what's broken?12:23
HobbseeRiddell-awa: everything :P12:23
imbrandoneverything12:23
=== Hobbsee broke it. all of it.
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HobbseeRiddell-awa: well, we destroyed your unit first, of course, then went and destroyed everything else.  was quite fun, really12:24
imbrandonactualy i think me and Hobbsee and mornfall ( untill he gets on the plane ) are the only ones arround, everyone is gone or getting ready to leave it seems12:24
Hobbseeyeah, that's likely.  also, it's saturday here12:24
imbrandonhere too, i dont think there are many places its still friday12:25
Hobbseeand a lot of people arent on during weekends12:25
imbrandoncept users lol12:25
mornfalli'm leaving around sunday noon12:25
imbrandonahh cool , some reason i thought i was sooner12:26
imbrandons/i/it12:26
Hobbseemornfall: seems a dapper user is having trouble getting adept to open again...12:28
Hobbsee[20:25]  <animato> 3rd sometimes adept keeps on loading forever for no reason and won't open up12:28
mornfallblah12:29
mornfalldetails12:29
mornfallthat info alone is useless :p12:30
tomamorning12:31
imbrandonmorning toma12:33
Hobbseemornfall: haha yeah, i thought so.  the guy's in #kubuntu, but is going to upgrade to kde 3.5.312:33
Hobbseehe's whinging about all the kubuntu dapper bugs, etc, etc, etc, yada yada yada...12:33
mornfalltell him to use windows12:39
mornfalland stop bitching :)12:39
hungerHobbsee: I can see why people do that:-(12:39
Hobbseemornfall: haha!12:39
hungerHobbsee: I am disappointed in dapper, too. It got regressions from breezy for me and that does not go well with all the "LTS" hype going on right now:-(12:40
Hobbseehunger: hmm?  about the bugs?  until it's on launchpad, i'm not terribly interested :P  especially when they deal with $mypetbugthatinfluencesveryfewpeople12:40
Hobbseehunger: ouch.  which regressions?  do i want to know?12:40
mornfallwell, cups for one :p12:41
hungerHobbsee: The biggest issue is that my laptop no longer suspends... plus lots of minor stuff that is not really important but annoying.12:41
Hobbseeah12:41
hungerHobbsee: I filed bugs for everything (before dapper got released), but they did not make it into the release.12:42
hungerHobbsee: I wouldn't mind too much if it were not for the "LTS-best-ubuntu-ever" hype:-|12:42
Hobbseetrue, there are a lot of bugs there12:42
Hobbseeheh, yeah.12:42
hungerHobbsee: Well, I downgraded to breezy again, that was a really fine release.12:43
hungerHobbsee: ... and am waiting for edgy to get steam:-)12:43
Hobbseehunger: oddly enough, most people say that breezy was worse :P12:43
Hobbseeyeah, looking forward to that :)12:43
tomai think there is a difference in what you can blame 'dapper' and what is caused by the author of a certain application. I guess not being able to suspend is not a real dapper issue.12:44
hungertoma: From my understanding that is a kernel bug. So I blame it on dapper.12:44
Hobbseeseems like a kernel issue maybe?  seeing as there was a different kernel in breezy/dapper.  it does seem weird though12:44
hungertoma: The really annoying issue is that the box suspends fine, resumes fine.12:45
tomahunger: did dapper patch the kernel then?12:45
hungertoma: But once it is up it does a nice and clean shutdown.12:45
Hobbseehunger: oh that?  i had that for breezy!12:45
hungertoma: Of course garbling the screen with this annoying shutdown usplash that keeps breaking, messing up the screen.12:46
hungerThat damn shutdown graphic makes it impossible to go to single user mode with dapper:-(12:47
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imbrandonmoins \sh12:47
Hobbseehey \sh 12:47
\shre12:48
tomahunger: remove the usplash package then12:48
\shdid anyone tried to build a pbuilder chroot ? 12:48
Hobbseei must say though, dapper's a huge improvement over hoary.12:48
mornfallwow, but it runs so much faster in valgrind now :)12:48
\shwith debootstrap from edgy installed on dapper?12:48
=== Hobbsee hasnt.
hungerWell, having said this, dapper has some really nice stuff:-) It is a nice distribution overall. It really hurts having to use breezy on the laptop.12:48
Hobbseemornfall: yay :)12:48
mornfallso let's callgrind it12:49
\shhunger: what's wrong with dapper?12:49
hunger\sh: mostly that my laptop does not suspend with it. That makes it pretty useless on that laptop.12:49
hunger\sh: Plus a couple of annoyances (mostly usplash related).12:49
hunger\sh: I.e. why is the shutdown usplash run from the kdm init-script? a) it breaks 8 out of 10 times, messing up the screen and b) it makes it impossible to go to singleuser mode.12:51
\shhunger: well, yes the laptop keys...did you try to call /etc/acpi/sleep.sh manually?12:52
hunger\sh: Yes. The laptop suspends fine, resumes fine and then automatically does a nice and clean shutdown.12:52
\sheven with the latest kernel update?12:53
hunger\sh: So basically everything works fine... it is just not really useable:-)12:53
hunger\sh: Yeap.12:53
tomawhy does a broken suspend has to be with being able to use it?12:54
=== toma needs coffee
hungertoma: Suspend is about saving time:-) A resume-shutdown-startup cycle is somewhat longer than a resume cycle:-)12:55
tomahunger: how ofte do you do that in a day?12:55
hungertoma: I suspend about 10 to 20 times a day, depending on how much I have to travel.12:56
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tomaHobbsee: do i smell capuchino?12:56
=== \sh just canceled all private travellings for today...so coffee is substituted with beer ;)
Hobbseetoma: possibly, i dont drink coffee :P12:56
hungertoma: shuting down/restarting is not the issue, but getting all the apps with all the data started again is.12:57
Hobbsee\sh: haha12:57
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\shHobbsee: you are not allowed to drink beer, right? ;)01:00
Hobbsee\sh: well...01:00
Hobbsee\sh: in a month or so, i'm legal to - so they wont sell it to me01:00
hunger\sh: What do you think why he is giving the stuff away? ;-)01:00
Hobbseewhether they'd serve it to me, seeing how old i look, is an interesting question01:00
\shhunger: well, because she likes me? ;)01:01
Hobbsee\sh: but besides that, i dont like the taste of the stuff.  and there are other reasons too01:01
ajmitch_heh01:01
Hobbseeheya ajmitch_!01:02
=== Hobbsee hugs ajmitch_
\shhey ajmitch_01:02
hungerHobbsee: Oh, sorry, I had assumed you were male.01:02
ajmitch_hello01:02
Hobbseehunger: :)  most people do.01:02
Hobbseeback soon01:03
ajmitch_hunger: there are rumours that there are females on irc01:03
hungerHobbsee: Too few women in the FOSS world:-(01:03
Hobbseethey are false though, utterly and totally false.01:03
Hobbsee:P01:03
ajmitch_Hobbsee: of course...01:03
Hobbseehunger: i dont blame them, they have to put up with a lot if they want to be a part.01:03
hungerajmitch_: Yes, I keep hearing that, too... but I never noticed one yet.01:04
\shI know some women working on FOSS or promoting at least the usage of FOSS 01:04
=== Hobbsee is just a green bug eyed alien, yes.
Hobbseeback in a bit - although i'd prefer to stay here01:04
Hobbseehold this conversatoin :P01:04
hungerHobbsee: Yes, I know:-( Men are idiots.01:04
hunger\sh: So do I... But still I do assume people in IRC to be male.01:04
\shajmitch_: did you try out creating a edgy chroot (debootstrap or pbuilder)?01:05
\shhunger: how can you tell?01:05
hunger\sh: Tell what?01:05
\shI just pretend that I'm a man..but in real life, I'm a woman >:->01:05
\shjust joking01:06
hunger\sh: I can not tell... but if I went round assuming people here were female then my rate of error would be higher:-)01:06
\shactually it doesn't matter if men or women#01:07
hungerAlthough that is nothing but an assumption based on how many women I see at tradeshows:-)01:07
ajmitch_\sh: no, I've only dist-upgraded dapper chroots01:07
\shajmitch_: can you try to confirm this01:08
\shAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.01:08
\shSetting up udev (093-0ubuntu1) ...01:08
ajmitch_hm, last time I saw \sh he didn't look like a woman..01:08
\sh/var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.postinst: line 82: my_persistent_disk_rules: command not found01:08
\shdpkg: error processing udev (--configure):01:08
\sh subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12701:08
hunger\sh: Not here, no. Even though I think some men will behave totally moronic once they spot a female here:-(01:08
ajmitch_\sh: yes, and about 30 other people who have filed that bug as a duplicate in malone01:08
\shoh well, I'm too slow today01:08
ajmitch_:)01:08
ajmitch_it's been there for about 2-3 days01:08
\shajmitch_: and this?01:08
\shI: Configuring ubuntu-keyring...01:08
\shW: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.01:08
\shW: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times.01:08
\shduring debootstrap? ;)01:09
ajmitch_that's probably due to the udev thing above01:09
hungerI see lots of "can not open file" messages during bootup since I upgraded udev. I assume that is due to incompatibilities and will fix itself once edgy gets a new kernel.01:09
ajmitch_ok, not 3001:09
\shhmmm...food01:10
ajmitch_only 6 marked as duplicates, surprisingly ;)01:10
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ajmitch_bug 4992501:11
UbugtuMalone bug 49925 in udev "broken postinst" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4992501:11
hungerajmitch_: I guess there are not many ppl that upgraded to edgy yet.01:14
Hobbseeback01:14
hungerajmitch_: THere is nothing to see yet anyway, except for broken locales:-)01:14
ajmitch_welcome back, Hobbsee 01:15
ajmitch_hunger: plenty of sources have been synced from debian & are building01:15
ajmitch_I'm guessing that the publisher is needing to be run for them, or is pending..01:15
Hobbsee<hunger> \sh: Not here, no. Even though I think some men will behave totally moronic once they spot a female here:-( <-- yep, seen that.  repeatedly.  hence the comment about having to put up with a fair bit.01:16
Hobbseethanks ajmitch_ :)01:16
\shajmitch_: debhelper is waiting for po-debconf, that's why new udev is FTB01:17
ajmitch_\sh: yes, I saw there were a few failures :)01:17
\shtuesday is da day for trying to reactivate my upload rights...let's see what will happen...I'm feverish to upload new stuff ;)01:18
ajmitch_they'll probably let you back in01:18
Hobbsee\sh: hehe yay! so we can come and bug you for uploads :D01:18
=== ajmitch_ can go back into lurking
Hobbseeajmitch_: dont think you'll get to go anywhere.01:19
\shajmitch_: no ways...you have to help me :)01:19
ajmitch_Hobbsee: sure I will01:19
ajmitch_\sh: help with what?01:19
Hobbseehmmm...mum's getting sick of the computer problems on the study computer, and now wants a mac.  weird.01:20
\shajmitch_: with everything..we need to fix the universe ;)01:20
=== Hobbsee pokes ajmitch_ a few times with her long cattle prod, so that he wont decide to try to lurk again.
ajmitch_\sh: we'll have < 4 months to fix it all :)01:20
ajmitch_besides, that's what Hobbsee is for01:20
Hobbseewhat???01:20
Hobbseewhat am i doing now?01:21
\shfixing the universe said ajmitch_01:21
Hobbseeoh.  doesnt he mean breaking the universe?01:21
ajmitch_we expect her to go to MOTU in the next month or so01:21
\shajmitch_: next month? why not now?01:21
=== Hobbsee tries to fight the urge to check the wiki page to see if she's suddenly been added as a candidate
ajmitch_because she doesn't have much she's done that's not just fixes01:22
ajmitch_Hobbsee: nah, you need to join the launchpad team yourself, unfortunately01:22
ajmitch_\sh: any bets on when she'll go for core-dev?01:22
Hobbseeajmitch_: yeah, we're still getting kopete in - there were about 4 of us :P01:22
\shajmitch_: hmmm....01:22
\shajmitch_: in 2 months?01:23
ajmitch_say 2.501:23
\shajmitch_: what about  barry?01:23
ajmitch_he's already gone for it01:23
ajmitch_we'll see if he reapplies01:24
=== Hobbsee is starting to think that \sh and ajmitch_ are off the planet.
ajmitch_Hobbsee: no, just NZ01:24
=== Hobbsee certainly wouldnt apply for core dev before edgy+1
Hobbseehah01:24
\shand simple germany01:24
Hobbseeja, ich nicht spreke Deutsch.01:25
ajmitch_why not?01:25
Hobbseebecause....because...01:25
ajmitch_you have no reasons01:25
\shand I don't speak english...fair enough ;)01:25
Hobbseeajmitch_: becuase i hate being told no01:25
Hobbsee\sh: :P01:25
Hobbsee\sh: it's about the only german i remember01:25
ajmitch_\sh: will you have time to visit paris at all?01:26
Simeis anyone here leaving the Paris meeting on the saturday?  (24th)01:26
=== Sime is trying to work out his train ticket.
=== ajmitch_ would love to be there, really
=== \sh imagine Hobsee in a wedding chappel, her groom says no...Hobbsee will explode, bet on it...;)
ajmitch_haha01:27
\shajmitch_: no..it's during the week, I can't take off from work...release schedule01:27
toma\sh: yes, he will not be found back01:27
hunger\sh: Who wouldn't?01:27
=== Hobbsee bites her tongue
\shhunger: I think if my bride will tell "No" in front of the priest...I would marry her01:28
ajmitch_\sh: unfortunate01:28
\shoh that was a paradoxon01:28
Hobbseesomehow, i suspect that my groom wouldnt leave me at that point - he would have done it ages before that01:28
toma\sh: haha01:28
Hobbseehehe01:28
Hobbsee\sh: anyway, get me angry enough, and i do explode.  think i've only done it a couple of times on ubuntu related stuff though.01:29
tomaHobbsee: or he is to scared to do that01:29
hungerHobbsee: Well, I was kind of surprised that my bride did not run away screeming at the altar:-)01:29
Hobbseetoma: hehe, now hey, i'm not *that* scary :P01:29
\shhunger: she did see you the first time at the altar? ;))01:29
=== \sh listens to a nice song right now...fitting to this conversation...Iced Earth: I died for you...
hunger\sh: Nope:-)01:30
tomaHobbsee: there is no way we can confim that ;-)01:31
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Hobbseetoma: not unless someone comes and meets me, then comes back alive01:31
ajmitch_toma: she just needs to get sponsored to the next conference :)01:32
=== Hobbsee isnt even going to dream about that idea
Hobbseeseems pretty futile to dream of that01:32
ajmitch_you don't want to dream fo being locked in a hotel for a week with a bunch of geeks? ;)01:33
tomaHobbsee: unless you are close to darwin, i can't arrange that soon01:33
Hobbseealthough i would like to meet up with everyone one day01:33
\shoh...lets wait until riddell votes for you on the internal wiki for sponsorship01:33
Hobbseeajmitch_: could be fun :P  depensd what happens there01:33
Hobbseeif i just get to be crazy in person like i am on irc :P01:33
imbrandonHobbsee, speaking of kopete , is the code on Riddell's space the latest ?01:34
imbrandonheh01:34
\shHobbsee: believe me, you are surprised, how "normal" all those "crazy irc" people are in real life01:34
ajmitch_\sh: well, some of them01:34
imbrandon\sh, or atleaste toned down ;)01:34
tomanormal as in normal nerds you mean01:34
ajmitch_some of them are just as crazy01:34
\shajmitch_: e.g.?01:34
Hobbseeimbrandon: um.  well, apachelogger put it up on revu, riddell reviewed it, said there was stuff to be changed - i emailed details to him about what needed fixing that i'd found, but have no reply01:34
Hobbseeimbrandon: seems like bzr would be useful or something :P01:35
ajmitch_\sh: jdub01:35
imbrandonHobbsee, yea seeing how you me riddell and freeflying are all working on it lol01:35
ajmitch_though he can be quite normal as well01:35
\shajmitch_: well, yes, but he will be different at home with his wife ;)01:35
ajmitch_wiki.ubuntu.com/BzrMaintainerHowto01:35
ajmitch_\sh: you haven't met pia, have you?01:36
Hobbseethanks ajmitch_ - now we just need the latets code :P01:36
\shajmitch_: I read about her...01:36
=== Hobbsee met pia over IRC, actually.
imbrandonright ...01:36
=== ajmitch_ has met pia in person a few times
\shajmitch_: don't tell me she was sitting next to jdub, when he dropped his pants01:36
Hobbsee\sh: tmi lol01:36
imbrandonHobbsee, if you see Riddell-awa later on see if you can figure out where the latest branch is and we'll setup brz 01:37
ajmitch_launchpad is great, but a little slow for the initial push01:37
Hobbseeimbrandon: okay, it's 1.37pm there now, so he should be around somewhere01:38
imbrandonyea you just need a ssh key registed with lp right ajmitch_ ?01:38
ajmitch_especially if you use a branch for each patch, since it doesn't use repositories on the server :)01:38
ajmitch_imbrandon: yep01:38
\shajmitch_: I tried to upload something to bazaar.launchpad.net...but it didn't work...do I need to be in the core-team to push something to this location?01:38
ajmitch_\sh: if you're pushing to ~ubuntu-core-dev/product/branch01:38
ajmitch_otherwise you push to your own space01:38
\shajmitch_: that's what I tried01:38
Hobbseeack, i'm deaded 01:38
\shajmitch_: I wanted to push kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts 01:38
ajmitch_\sh: to where?01:39
\shajmitch_: ubuntu-core-dev/...01:39
\shI created a prodct01:39
ajmitch_well you're not in the team, so of course it won't work :)01:39
imbrandonajmitch_, what is "your space" like ~/ or something on lp ?01:39
ajmitch_get reactivated & then try01:39
\shproduct even (damn german keyboard on this t43)01:39
ajmitch_imbrandon: sftp://$USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~$USER/$PRODUCT/ubuntu.$NAME01:39
\shajmitch_: ok..so it's group based :)01:39
ajmitch_\sh: yes, it's all tied to the people & teams on lp01:40
ajmitch_initial push probably requires --create-prefix01:41
ajmitch_I think all that is on the wiki01:41
Hobbseeyeah, seems to be01:41
\shajmitch_: hehe..I read scotts introduction01:41
=== ajmitch_ tries to recall how to push a branch that isn't against a product
Hobbseehmmm...i have no ssh key currently, too01:42
imbrandonheh01:42
ajmitch_imbrandon: I've got some code that isn't packaged yet01:42
imbrandonsee Hobbsee and its sftp, should have learned a bit of ssh like i said before ;)01:42
imbrandonfor ?01:42
ajmitch_SoC stuff01:42
Hobbseeimbrandon: yeah yeah...it's not like iv'e been doing anything else like studying, is it?01:42
imbrandonHobbsee,  hehhe01:43
ajmitch_Hobbsee: not from what I've heard :P01:43
\shajmitch_: are you mentoring someone?01:43
ajmitch_\sh: hah no, I'm a student ;)01:43
Hobbseeimbrandon: oh, and kicking people at random, and dying bloodily cos i got shot.01:43
ajmitch_\sh: mithrandir is my mentor for network authentication01:43
imbrandonlol01:43
\shajmitch_: oh cool :)01:43
ajmitch_with this money, I can go to far off foreign lands01:44
ajmitch_like the north island01:44
Hobbseehehe01:44
imbrandonlol01:44
Hobbseei was about to say "like australia?"01:44
ajmitch_Hobbsee: nah, it's cheaper to fly to .au01:44
Hobbseeajmitch_: hush you @ the study comment.  especially hush around my parents about that :P01:45
ajmitch_as if I'd bring it up, ever01:45
Hobbseeajmitch_: good :)01:45
Hobbseesee to it that you dont.01:45
ajmitch_heh01:45
=== Hobbsee hugs ajmitch_ to show that she isnt a horrible tyrant
ajmitch_sure..01:46
\shajmitch_: you grab the money from SoC and come to germany next year during linuxtag time..or this year for linuxexpo in cologne01:47
ajmitch_\sh: I'd love to :)01:47
=== Hobbsee has a sudden evil plot
Hobbsees/plot/plan01:47
\shHobbsee: you come to germany too?01:47
Hobbsee\sh: er, how?01:47
ajmitch_though flying all that way for linuxtag/linuxexpo will cost a lot01:47
ajmitch_Hobbsee: calling it an evil plan doesn't sound that much better01:48
Hobbseeajmitch_: true01:48
imbrandonplan is better than plot how ?01:48
\shajmitch_: well, visit europe then 01:48
ajmitch_Hobbsee: deal with hiver over in #ubuntu, will you? :)01:48
ajmitch_\sh: if I'm working & have the money to spare :)01:48
=== ajmitch_ would be more likely to go to europe for study
\shajmitch_: wanna work in germany for good money, NOW? :)01:49
ajmitch_\sh: sure :)01:49
=== Hobbsee was just contemplating putting dad's computer out of action again
Hobbseeajmitch_: thanks mate01:49
ajmitch_why would you do that?01:50
\shajmitch_: you are in this zope/plone business and you are able to port some windows sources to linux?01:50
ajmitch_\sh: what sort of work?01:50
Hobbseeajmitch_: so he wants the install cd, not the live cd.01:50
ajmitch_\sh: source for what?01:50
\shajmitch_: or sysadmin stuff?01:50
=== ajmitch_ does some zope/plone & can do sysadmin..
\shajmitch_: I can't tell you anything about it, but it's pure windows crap...and it needs to be ported as native app to linux01:51
\shajmitch_: frontend 01:51
ajmitch_win32 API?01:51
\shajmitch_: yes01:51
ajmitch_sounds more like a rewrite than a port01:51
\shajmitch_: first step will be wine anyways as I understood our devs01:51
ajmitch_right01:52
=== ajmitch_ doesn't speak any german, of course :)
\shajmitch_: but just because, it has to be ported asap01:52
Hobbseeajmitch_: make it up :P01:52
ajmitch_Hobbsee: like australians do with english? ;)01:53
=== ajmitch_ hides quickly
Hobbseeajmitch_: haha01:53
=== Hobbsee smacks ajmitch_
\shajmitch_: try babelfish on http://www.combots.com/jobs_de.html01:53
\shajmitch_: you will see the list of open positions01:53
=== Hobbsee goes to his hiding place, and smacks him again. hmph
\shajmitch_: you will learn german in no time, believe me..01:53
ajmitch_such a sweet, charming girl01:54
Hobbseehehe01:54
=== Hobbsee hugs ajmitch_
imbrandonhmmm \sh looks fun01:54
\shimbrandon: it is :)01:55
ajmitch_\sh: but they need someone now, not next month? :)01:55
imbrandonhow tolerant would they be of a non german speaker ;)01:55
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Hobbseeimbrandon: a *NZ* non-german speaker, which would be even worse01:56
\shgrmpf01:56
\shre01:56
\shwe have right now, 55% freelancers, and 45% employees :)01:56
\shso they need personal01:56
=== Hobbsee ducks before she gets smacked in return :P
\shand everybody is talking english as 2nd language01:57
imbrandonlol01:57
ajmitch_Hobbsee: I'm not going to smack you :P01:57
Hobbseehmm...this would be easier to read with babelfish01:57
Hobbseeajmitch_: sure sure :P01:57
\shs/talking/speaking/01:58
ajmitch_\sh: it's interesting for sure :)01:58
=== ajmitch_ wonders how hard it'd be to get a work visa
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\shajmitch_: send your CV etc. to HR and ask there what they can do...01:59
\shajmitch_: tell them that you are very involved in debian/ubuntu development etc. and you apply for a job in the sysadmin team..so you land directly at my boss ;)02:00
\shand he is debian fanatic02:00
ajmitch_and you put in a good word for the struggling, poor debian developer? ;)02:00
imbrandon;)02:01
\shajmitch_: amu did it for me :)02:01
=== Hobbsee kickbans another user :)
tomatypical02:02
ajmitch_Hobbsee: you take far too much pleasure from that02:02
Hobbseeajmitch_: hehe02:02
ajmitch_power-mad ops..02:02
raphink_sleepajmitch_: you want to move to Europe?02:02
Hobbseeajmitch_: you're next :P02:03
ajmitch_raphink_sleep: sure, it'd be fun :)02:03
raphink_sleepajmitch_: nice :)02:03
Hobbseeajmitch_: you should have seen us last night, gosh it was funny!02:03
raphink_sleepmy company is also a great place for linux fans 02:03
\shraphink_sleep: if we can free australia and new zealand, we have a new prisoners colony for europe ;)02:03
raphink_sleepin my service we are about 40 linux system admins02:03
=== imbrandon is wanting to move to europe also ( was just talking about it last nigtht )
raphink\sh: ahah02:03
raphinkimbrandon: from?02:04
imbrandon\sh, lol02:04
imbrandonraphink, USA ( Kansas City )02:04
Hobbsee\sh: haha.  yes, but wouldnt that requre me from moving too?02:04
raphinkok02:04
raphinkHobbsee: you can move, too ;)02:04
\shHobbsee: you have to :)02:04
raphinkwe need linux people in europe :)02:04
ajmitch_we need linux people in NZ02:05
raphinkwell, everywhere I guess ;)02:05
imbrandonhehe02:05
imbrandonraphink, what company ?02:05
Hobbseeme move?  eek02:06
ajmitch_\sh: where in .de are you?02:08
\shajmitch_: I'm near cologne..but the company is in karlsruhe02:10
ajmitch_right02:10
\shcologne <-> karlsruhe around 400km02:10
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\shone way02:10
Hobbsee\sh: raphink: i dont think you should tempt me about moving.  i might just do it02:14
mornfallHobbsee: so it's really much faster now :] 02:15
Hobbseemornfall: yay!02:15
mornfall2 seconds on 800MHz pentium M02:15
mornfall0.5-1s on 1.8GHz pentium M02:16
imbrandonnice mornfall02:17
mornfallyeah, i'm pretty happy about it :)02:17
Hobbseemornfall: we'll get an update for edgy then?02:18
Hobbseeone less thing for people to complain about?02:18
Hobbseeno, revise that, they'll find something else to complain about anyway02:18
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Hobbseeuh oh, i think i killed the conversation02:21
imbrandonheh02:22
ajmitch_well done02:22
Hobbseeheh02:22
=== Hobbsee bows
imbrandoncurtsey02:22
imbrandon;)02:22
Hobbseeno, to curtsey i have to be wearing a skirt.02:23
imbrandonuhh ok02:24
ajmitch_:)02:24
imbrandonhrm i think i'm gonna goto bed and watch a movie ( the new world ) , gnight all02:25
ajmitch_night02:25
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Hobbseeimbrandon: and by association, skirts are impractical.02:27
Hobbseeimbrandon: try wearing one one day, if you dont believe me, and then try running up and down stairs, and jumping on/off stages.02:28
Hobbseeit *is* possible to do it decently, but it does require practice.02:28
Hobbseenight ajmitch_ 02:28
tomais this the kubuntu channel?02:29
imbrandonk-d02:29
Hobbseetoma: it's the kubuntu development channel, yes02:29
=== ajmitch_ isn't gone yet :P
tomaHobbsee: that was fast....02:32
Hobbseetoma: hmmm?02:32
=== Hobbsee tapes ajmitch_ to the chat, so he cant go anywhere
tomajoining and leaving rsibreak channel02:33
Hobbseetoma: oh02:33
ajmitch_\sh: I worry about her02:33
\shajmitch_: about whom? hobbsee?02:34
\shI'm just jabbering with zerlinna about a training site for kubuntu02:35
\shwith moodle...nice idea02:35
mornfallHobbsee: no update02:35
mornfallHobbsee: too many changes02:35
ajmitch_\sh: yeah, Hobbsee 02:35
mornfallit'll be a small miracle if it makes into edgy02:35
\shajmitch_: why?02:35
ajmitch_\sh: taping me to the channel, she knows I'm a GNOME user02:35
\shajmitch_: sometimes she is frightening me ;)02:35
ajmitch_:)02:35
=== Hobbsee laughs evilly
Hobbseeajmitch_: we'll just bring you over to our side :)02:36
Hobbseethe good side :P02:36
Hobbseemornfall: er, isnt edgy all about changes?02:37
=== imbrandon hands Hobbsee more tape
mornfallmaybe02:37
mornfallbut the schedule is tight02:37
Hobbseeah okya02:37
Hobbseethanks imbrandon - duct tape *always* seems to come in handy.02:37
ajmitch_Hobbsee: not likely..02:37
Hobbseeajmitch_: :)02:38
Hobbseewell, you tried to get me to gnome :P02:38
ajmitch_not really02:38
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ajmitch_funny02:39
imbrandonheh02:39
ajmitch_define 'upstream'02:39
imbrandonmono02:39
ajmitch_since trolltech doesn't show much interest in it02:39
ajmitch_not likely to happen02:40
mornfallqt#? who cares?02:40
\shwho wants qt#?02:40
imbrandoni know , its sad but i know02:40
ajmitch_I don't know of any qt# efforts from mono02:40
imbrandon_I_ want qt#02:40
imbrandonheh02:40
mornfallmono doesn't care02:40
mornfallthey care about gtk :)02:40
mornfallif at all02:40
ajmitch_exactly02:40
imbrandonexactly02:40
mornfallbut then, noone cares about mono02:40
mornfallso it's even02:41
mornfall:-)02:41
imbrandonand _I_ == ex windows c# programer that uses kde , that leaves me with using gtk# ;(02:41
imbrandoni guess the linux awnser is if i want it build it 02:41
imbrandon;)02:41
imbrandonor just learn pyqt ( thats what ACTUALY happened )02:42
\shimbrandon: pyqt02:42
imbrandon\sh, yea but i can always hope to leverage my c#, but then again c# daemons with pyqt front ends are good too , that way gtk can be added alter or other front ends made etc02:43
imbrandons/alter/later02:43
\shimbrandon: believe me, python daemons are much faster then this crappy java/mono stuff02:44
=== \sh thinks even zope is faster then tomcat
imbrandonprobbly true02:44
imbrandonmono > java for speed anyhow , not as much as native or python but still faster02:44
=== imbrandon was just happy to hack wine to get .net 2.X to INSTALL , lol dident load correct but its farther than before
imbrandonanyhow , i'm off to be , gnight all02:46
ajmitch_night imbrandon 02:46
\shwow02:46
\shI got a ride from paris to germany for free02:46
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ajmitch_\sh: great, but when? :)02:46
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ajmitch_not next week?02:47
\shajmitch_: hehe...I'm not in paris anyways...02:47
\shajmitch_: but friday she would take me for a ride02:47
ajmitch_heh02:47
\shbut cool02:47
\shso I will meet her somehow at froscon next weekend02:47
ajmitch_developer?02:48
\shajmitch_: fsfe?02:50
\shfree software foundation europe_02:51
\shI would bet02:51
ajmitch_ok02:52
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\shjust wrote an email and said thx for the offer...02:53
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Hobbsee\sh: :)03:00
Hobbsee\sh: i'm really not that scary, you know.  i'm probably just a little bit wild :P03:00
tomacan someone package http://www.digitalfanatics.org/e8johan/ajax/gwt/tictactoe/TicTacToe.html03:02
tomai love it03:02
ajmitch_toma: that someone could be you!03:08
tomaajmitch_: right. My last package sucked, so I'll try to stay away from it03:09
ajmitch_this is your chance to improve03:10
tomaajmitch_: i rather do some coding and leave the packaging to the experts03:11
Hobbseetoma: er, what the?  you mean, package the java applet?03:12
Hobbsee*javascript03:12
tomanot?03:12
\shHobbsee: I believe you...03:14
Hobbseewow, an irc conversation with Riddell-awa is in a python script in a package03:15
\shwhich package?03:17
Hobbseedisplayconfig-hwprobe.py is the file03:18
Hobbseewhat's the command to run the hardware detection again?  i've forgotten03:19
ajmitch_Hobbsee: only 3 lines :)03:20
Hobbseetrue.  i was just searching thru files03:21
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ajmitch_no thanks03:21
Hobbseeno, not you :P03:22
Hobbseeback in a bit03:24
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\shtoma: it's ajax javascript03:25
\shcool...jabber.kubuntu.de goes live03:26
tomawow, you are still taking me far to serious03:26
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\shtoma: you are kde dev...actually I rely on you ;)03:27
Hobbseei'm baaaaaaaaaaaack!  run in fear :P03:27
jpatrickHobbsee: I just got here..03:27
Hobbseehey jpatrick :)03:27
toma\sh: relying on me is a bad idea in general ;-)03:28
jpatrick\sh: now that Edgy's open should I reupload kxdocker?03:28
hungerHobbsee: Didn't you claim a while back that you are not that scary?03:28
Hobbseehunger: yeah03:28
Hobbseei'm not03:28
jpatrickhi Hobbsee03:28
Hobbseemuch03:28
ajmitch_yes you are03:28
Hobbseeactually, when i'm screaming at you, then i might well be, but otherwise...03:28
\shjpatrick: well, if you can create a running edgy chroot, sure ;)03:28
hungerHobbsee: So there is no need to run in fear, is there?03:28
\shor wait until it's compiled03:28
Hobbseehunger: well...you could just run that way...03:29
hungerSo which kde version is supposed to be in edgy? I guess 4.0 won't be out till then... Will there be a 3.6 or something?03:29
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Hobbseehunger: 3.5.4 probably03:29
Hobbseeassuming feature freeze is after july03:30
Hobbseeer, you could just run away in fear anyway03:30
hungerHobbsee: feature freeze of ubuntu or kde?03:32
Hobbseehunger: of ubuntu03:32
ajmitch_night all03:35
Hobbseenight ajmitch_ 03:36
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raphinknight ajmitch_03:42
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seaLnehow do you unmark as duplicate?04:02
HobbseeseaLne: good question...ask in #launchpad ?04:02
seaLneah click on mark as duplicate then delete the number04:03
Hobbseeah04:03
seaLnethat is very counter intuative04:03
Hobbseerather, yes04:03
seaLnebut was the only thing i could see to do04:03
hungerseaLne: It is well in line with the launchpad HIG IMHO :-(04:03
\shseaLne: file a bug 04:04
seaLneis /products/launchpad the write one?04:05
\shyes04:05
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seaLnebah after all that it was a duplicate, i need more caffeine04:15
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Hobbseenight all04:55
\shsleep tight Hobbsee04:55
tomanight Hobbsee04:55
Hobbsee\sh: toma :)04:55
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nixternalkalamazoo ey?05:28
nixternalLeeJunFan: ^^05:29
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LeeJunFannixternal: no, that's just where my DSL line runs.05:53
LeeJunFannixternal: Cheboygan.05:53
nixternalahhh...i am fron the area originally...all my family is there...around benton harbor05:53
nixternalkalamazoo, pawpaw, cheboygan, grand rapids...and many more ;)05:54
LeeJunFanCool. I'm actually a NY'er up until about 10 years ago.05:54
nixternalwatervliet too...not many people know of that town..unless they are a pilot05:54
nixternalwow...from NY to the sticks...that had to be a big time change ;)05:55
LeeJunFannixternal: not really, I lived in the sticks in NY too. Western NY, not the city.05:55
LeeJunFannixternal: still quite a bit slower paced than the cities I was used to in NY though.05:56
nixternalahhh05:56
nixternalall of michigan is slow paced ;)05:56
LeeJunFannixternal: yeah, I agree.05:57
nixternalwhat actually kills me...is everyone in south western michigan talks like they are from kentucky or futher south...i don't know where they get it from, they are yankees ;)05:57
nixternalyou probably don't notice it though...see im in chicago now...and when i talk to my family there or visit i get a kick out of it05:58
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LeeJunFanYeah, from where I was in NY to here there's not much of an accent change.05:58
LeeJunFanAlthough I always get picked on for saying upstate instead of Up North :)05:59
nixternalone of these days i will be living in mi again05:59
nixternallol...i have family that say the same thing..as most of htem in mi came from rochester, ny05:59
LeeJunFanYeah, I was from Jamestown NY, about 3-4 hrs from Rochester if I recall. I've never been there, but I had a cousin there.06:01
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uniqkdesu is missing a dependendy on sudo.07:10
jpatrickouch07:31
\shedgy?07:33
raphinkcan syncs/merges be requested to elmo yet?07:33
raphinkhe synced a package but it's missing a dependency that should be synced too07:34
\shsyncs are done via launchpad07:35
raphinkah?07:35
raphinkwhere?07:35
\shI think via subscribing ubuntu-something...damn..I forgot that thing07:35
\shor was it backports?07:36
raphinkhmmm07:37
\shask siretart he has to know ;)07:37
raphinkyes07:37
raphinksince he's performing some07:37
\shoh..i need to package nexuiz07:41
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mornfallsomeone can think of something i shouldn't forget to take to paris?08:13
uniqlaptop powersupply.08:15
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\shmornfall: a well trained liver ;)08:23
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mornfallhehe08:30
\shmornfall: and don't think about sleeping ;) 08:30
mornfallpff08:31
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Tonio_hi08:51
tomahi Tonio_08:51
Tonio_hey toma08:52
Tonio_did you already use a bluetooth mouse ?08:52
Tonio_I just bought one and I have pain to make it work08:52
tomano, i've nothing bluetooth08:52
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Tonio_re09:24
Tonio_mouse is working ;)09:24
Tonio_just sad that this cannot be done with kde-bluetooth...09:24
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OdyXTonio_: how did you make it ?09:35
Tonio_plug and play ;)09:35
Tonio_just that it apparently didn't have enough battery09:36
OdyXBluetooth ?09:36
OdyXarf...09:36
Tonio_but I could force it manually in /etc/default/bluez-utils in case it wouldn't work09:36
OdyXsure...09:36
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OdyXits' fun09:37
Tonio_the only thing that surprises me is that if it works without config, that can cause a little issue of several mice are arround....09:37
OdyXsure...09:37
Tonio_so I removed the config, and I'm going to reboot to check, since that's a bit surprising...09:38
OdyXbut the mouse is "pure Bluetooth" or "mouse+dongle" ?09:38
Tonio_pure bluetooth09:38
OdyXfine...09:38
Tonio_but since my laptop doesn't have embedded bluetooth, I'm using a dongle09:38
OdyXyou should try bluemote... It's fun... :D09:38
Tonio_I will ;)09:39
Tonio_thanks for the info09:39
Tonio_rebooting now09:39
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OdyXTonio_: just note that bluemote is not packaged...09:41
OdyXBut with that frontend: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23061 <- it rocks09:42
Tonio_OdyX: well do  it :)09:42
OdyXTonio_: ;-) I'll maybe give it a try.09:42
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\shpeople, we need more kubuntu blogger...for universe.kubuntu.de...09:53
OdyXydO\sh: german speaking ?09:59
OdyXydO\sh: even "swiss german" writing ?09:59
OdyXydO;-)09:59
\shOdyXydO: no. you can write in zulu as well :)09:59
\shOdyXydO: language doesn't matter10:00
\shOdyXydO: as long you are using kubuntu as main desktop10:00
OdyXydO\sh: so... why having a *.de domain name ?10:00
\shOdyXydO: because kubuntu.org is hosted by canonical, and some things can't be installed on canonical servers10:01
OdyXydOand no planet.kubuntu.org ?10:01
OdyXydOOk10:01
\shplanet.kubuntu,de is the official kubuntu planet ;)10:01
\shpowered by kubuntu.de ;)10:01
\shOdyXydO: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/215-planet.kubuntu.de-announcement.html10:02
OdyXydOand universe ? is like "all that cannot be on planet".kubuntu.de ?10:02
\shOdyXydO: planet. is for the official members, developers10:02
\shOdyXydO: universe is for anybody else10:02
\shwho are using kubuntu10:02
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Tonio_re10:17
Tonio_okay last point is to find a mini-pci bluetooth module for my laptop :)10:17
Tonio_does it exist ?10:17
Tonio_never heard about, but that should10:17
\shTonio_: it's included when you have bluetooth ;)10:18
Tonio_\sh: the problem is my laptop doesn't have :)10:19
Tonio_\sh: so I'm searching for a mini-pci card or maybe pcmcia one...10:19
\shTonio_: then you need a mini pci card ...;) from your laptop vendor, or use a bluetooth usb dongle ;)10:19
Tonio_\sh: any idea if that could exist in mini-pci format ?10:19
Tonio_\sh: I do with a dongle actually, but I'd like to avoid pluging it everytimt ;)10:20
\shTonio_: which laptop vendor?10:20
Tonio_\sh: sony10:20
Tonio_I searched without success till now10:20
\shhehe10:21
\shhttp://www.siliconpopculture.com/sonytr/viewtopic.php?p=6414&sid=04a454f12f51011de751972a46b5326d10:21
Tonio_nice :)10:22
Tonio_although I'd like to avoid combos, since I have a centrino and the support is nice :)10:22
Tonio_\sh: I would prefer to avoid any soirt of conflict :)10:22
\shTonio_: call sony support..I think it's the only reliable way to get informations10:23
Tonio_\sh: that's the best thing to do probably yes10:23
Tonio_I know their support is one of the bests10:24
Tonio_\sh: but why should I focus on my constructor ?10:24
Tonio_isn't mini-pci a standard ?10:24
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Tonio_it should be possible to use hardware from any company no ?10:24
\shyes, but as always, the manufactures are messing around10:25
mornfallhttp://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/random-screens/adept-filters-draft0.png10:25
Tonio_\sh: thanks for the infos :)10:25
Tonio_mornfall: very nice !10:26
Tonio_mornfall: I just noticed adept filter field doesn't seem to perform "a OR b" kind of search10:26
Tonio_mornfall: only phrase type search10:26
mornfallit does ANDing10:26
mornfallah you mean quick search10:27
Tonio_mornfall: yes, only phrase mode10:27
Tonio_so to search for example "newsgroups kde"10:28
Tonio_doesn't work ;)10:28
Tonio_mornfall: can I use an "AND" tag or something ?10:28
Tonio_to search for newsgroup and kde in description for example10:28
mornfallno, it doesn't recognize any keywords10:30
mornfallplain substring search10:30
Tonio_mornfall: okay, thanks10:33
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kwwiievening10:55
Tonio_hey kwwii;)10:55
kwwiianyone build new packages for inkscape?10:55
kwwiihi Tonio_10:55
Tonio_\sh: I think I will buy a pcmcia card... less expensive than minipci stuff10:55
Tonio_kwwii: that will probably be merged from debian I presume10:56
DaSkreechOh :-( No Hobbsee :(10:56
Tonio_kwwii: what timle for monday morning ? 10:56
kwwiiTonio_: the first wine, you mean?10:57
kwwii:p10:57
mornfallhttp://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/random-screens/adept-filters-draft1.png10:57
kwwiithe meetings start at 9:00 usually10:57
Tonio_kwwii: hehe ;)10:57
Tonio_great, I'll try to be there at 8h3010:57
kwwiiTonio_: usually you can catch everyone at breakfast first10:58
kwwiiI fly in tomorrow afternoon10:58
\shkwwii: they start 9am sharp ;)10:58
Tonio_kwwii: yup, so I presume 8h30 is okay no ? 10:58
kwwiiTonio_: yeah, I guess anytime between then and 9:00 is great10:58
mornfallTonio_: there = paris?10:59
\shkwwii: and if somebody will miss this hour...he will be cursed by da sabdfl10:59
Tonio_mornfall: yes10:59
Tonio_there = the hotel in fact10:59
mornfallare you in launchpad?11:00
DaSkreechmornfall: Interesting11:00
mornfallregistered that is11:00
DaSkreechhi crimsun11:00
kwwiiI guess it is a big hotel, so finding the right rooms might be somewhat of a task11:00
Tonio_mornfall: what do you mean ?11:00
mornfallTonio_: there's launchpad registration thingy for the UDS11:00
nixternalkwwii: especially after drinking all night..they tend to become harder to find ;)11:00
\shmost likely the hotel has some sort of signs where the summit is11:01
mornfalland some bof planning thing11:01
DaSkreechmornfall: Whats the screenshot of?11:01
\shand at 8:30 you'll find most of the devs at the breakfast room ;)11:01
kwwiihehe11:01
\shor outside for the smoking bof11:01
Tonio_mornfall: hum.... I only subscribed to the wiki page11:01
mornfallDaSkreech: it's a draft in qt designer11:02
\shwhich is somehow a very old bof...postponed every conference..with no real result11:02
\shTonio_: on launchpad there is this sprint tool..you have to subscribe via lp to the bofs, if not, you are not scheduled :(11:02
DaSkreechmornfall: It's a pop up window?11:02
mornfallDaSkreech: qt-designer -> preview form11:03
mornfallyou don't want to see all the red layout boundaries ;)11:03
DaSkreech:-)11:03
mornfalland load of spacers11:03
DaSkreechjpatrick: Hi11:03
Tonio_\sh: ho yes I tried, but launchpad was crashing when I did.... I'l redo it now11:03
Tonio_\sh: isn't that too late ?11:03
jpatrickhello DaSkreech11:03
DaSkreechJust checking you were talking about kitten the other day?11:04
\shTonio_: no...it's been scheduled every morning11:04
jpatrickDaSkreech: yeah11:04
\shTonio_: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/3111:04
\shsomething about blueprint11:04
OdyX[23:04:00]  <McPeter> j'en profite pour dire bravo  la distrib kubuntu :) <- greetings for devs in -fr11:04
DaSkreechjpatrick: Is it a fork of Kat?11:04
jpatrickNo idea11:04
jpatrickI think it is11:05
DaSkreechAh... So what were we talking about? 11:05
Tonio_\sh: thanks11:05
jpatrickDaSkreech: not sure :|11:06
DaSkreechI had gotten the impression you were on the kitten project11:06
\shTonio_: do me a favour, and show ogra and fabbione the dark sides of paris ...;)11:06
jpatrickI'm a packager11:06
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\shjpatrick: dude, you don't put a kitten into a package, do you?11:07
DaSkreech\sh: Shhhhhh11:07
\shthe little kitten..11:07
DaSkreechDon't let the kat out of the bag!11:07
jpatrick\sh: Someone put a kat into a pack11:07
Tonio_\sh: haha :) I promise :)11:07
DaSkreechI'd never heard of it before11:08
DaSkreechI thought kat was dead11:08
DaSkreechIsn't it to be phased out for Tenor?11:08
\shTonio_: but be careful, both are really heavy party people...11:08
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Tonio_\sh: well the hotel isn't in paris directly, so I will probably not drink to much next week since I'l have to drive every morning to go there :)11:10
DaSkreechSweet KDE4 is in edgy? :-)11:10
kwwiinope11:10
=== claydoh is reminded of bonsai kittens, from a few years back lol
DaSkreechRiddell Is in charge of the KDE4 packages for Edgy11:11
\shTonio_: how far away from mon matre_11:11
Tonio_\sh: I would say about 30 to 35 km11:11
\shwow11:11
\shthat's a cheap one ;)11:12
DaSkreechIt's in the topic :)11:12
kwwiiI assume that the hotel is outside of town, or?11:12
Tonio_the hotel is nearby the airport, not in paris11:12
Tonio_yes, 30 km in paris north11:12
Tonio_so it may be a bit weird to go out by night.........11:12
Tonio_that will oblige everyone to work ;)11:13
\shah charles de gaulle?11:13
\shhollyday inn?11:13
kwwiihehe11:13
Tonio_\sh: yes, charles de gaule airport11:13
kwwiiit means, we all end up going to bed early11:14
\shor a concorde is crashing into the hotel..oh no..there is no concorde anymore ...:(11:14
Tonio_kwwii: in any case nothing prevents from going in paris by night, I could bring you back to your hotel11:14
kwwiiTonio_: yeah, I heard that french guys drive really well when drunken :p11:15
Tonio_or you can sleep at home for one night, I have two rooms11:15
kwwiicool :-)11:15
DaSkreechjpatrick: is there a site for kitten?11:15
kwwiiwe should definitely go out11:15
kwwiiI need people to give me shit for being American11:15
\shyou will, I bet...actually you have to follow fabbione ;)11:15
Tonio_kwwii: yes, we do drive very nice when drunk, but those 3 years, it started becoming very expensive, hehe :)11:15
\shlol11:15
Tonio_so now we are carefull11:15
kwwii:-)11:16
jpatrickDaSkreech: no11:16
DaSkreech:-(11:16
DaSkreechmailing list perhaps?11:16
Tonio_I don't want to loose my driving licence, so...11:16
jpatrickDaSkreech: http://www.vandenoever.info/ author's page11:16
Tonio_but that doesn't prevent from going in a nice restaurant and take good wine11:16
DaSkreechThanks11:17
seaLnedoes wine not count as alcohol in france?11:17
jpatricknothing about kitten tho11:17
seaLnespecial breathalizers that ignore wine :)11:17
\shwine is staple food in france11:18
DaSkreechjpatrick: I was told everytime I did that a kitten died!!11:18
jpatrick-> what?11:18
kwwiidude, no shit on this one...where I live in Germany, beer is not alcohol11:19
DaSkreech>_>11:19
DaSkreech<_<11:19
seaLneheh11:19
=== seaLne is drinking hefeweizen beer just now :)
\shkwwii: which is true...beer is no alcohol...cheers ;()11:20
seaLnelocal shop has nice range of non crap beer11:20
=== kwwii is drinking typical Bamberger Lager (Fssla)
DaSkreechjpatrick: Would you happen to know about Strigi?11:20
=== \sh drinks koelsch
seaLnehaving schofferhofer just now tho that may be consider bad in germany? its fancy here11:21
kwwiikoelsch is nice11:21
jpatrickDaSkreech: nope :/11:21
kwwii\sh: koelsch has more than 5% alcohol, or?11:22
\shkwwii: depends..some yes others not..it's a blond alt bier11:22
\shkwwii: this one has 4.811:23
seaLnekoelsch is a type of bier?11:23
kwwiiseaLne: yepp, from northern germany11:24
kwwiiI should bring a case of the real bamberger bier specialty...rauchbier11:25
kwwiiif beer is liquic bread, then ruachbier is a liquid ham sandwhich11:25
seaLnebad for veggies then?11:25
kwwiis/sandwhich/sandwich11:25
kwwiino, not in that sense11:26
kwwiibut it is smoked11:26
seaLneheh :)11:26
kwwiiso it has a definite flavor11:26
seaLneright11:26
kwwiithe saying goes "you have to drink two or more of them"11:26
seaLnelike cheap wine? :P11:27
kwwiihehe11:27
seaLne:)11:27
kwwiimy wifes grandfather (98 this year) drinks a warm rauchbier every day at 10:00am11:27
=== seaLne is finding http://www.germanbeerguide.co.uk/ very helpfull for tonights topic :)
\shlol...a german beer guide hostet in the uk ;)11:29
seaLnewell being in english helps me :)11:29
kwwiihehe11:30
kwwiibamberg is very big in bier11:30
kwwiihehe, that page even mentions bamberg11:31
\shthe page even mentions frueh koelsch, what I'm drinking right now11:32
kwwiihehe11:32
kwwiinow if we could just get them all to come to a bockbier anstich11:32
\shhehe...I had a lot of maibock during the last weeks11:33
kwwiihttp://www.bambergbeerguide.com/11:33
\shhttp://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/v/shermannpics/Karlsruhe2006/HappyKadaverDay2006/ or how people are working outside, when office network goes down11:34
\sheven on Corpus Christi11:34
seaLneheh11:35
\shlol...another nice comment 11:37
\sh"It's good your back by the way, planet ubuntu was hermann-less without yee."11:37
kwwiiso should I test my printer?11:38
seaLnecool, i was sad when you temporarily left11:38
kwwiihow much do I hate myself11:38
\shseaLne: I promised, I come back...11:38
seaLnenot as much as you hate cups/kde integration?11:38
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tomahi superstoned11:43
superstonedhi11:43
superstonedsorry, i have no time...11:43
tomak11:43
kwwiiwell, that failed wonderfully11:44
kwwiitime to reboot into an OS(x) that *can* print11:44
kwwiibrb11:45
\shkwwii: maeh11:45
=== \sh wants an mac os x as well
DaSkreechParallels?11:46
seaLne\sh: bah boy its non free :)11:46
kwwiire11:47
seaLnewow just noticed rightclicking in knode has an unrot13 option :)11:47
\shseaLne: but for some usability stuff it could be nice to see what mac os x is doing ;)11:48
\shand I could play WoW natively on mac os x11:48
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DaSkreechYay Wow!11:51
=== seaLne returns from the fridge after noticing all the bier he has is german :)
=== \sh just finished his last beer for today :)
=== \sh is smoking the last cigarette for today..and goes to bed after that
=== kwwii just lit the last joint for the day
kwwiioops, did I say that11:55
kwwii?11:55
seaLnebah :)11:55
\shkwwii: this channel is logged...the cia will catch you ;)11:57
kwwiidude, I *work* for the CIA11:58
\shoh fuck...and I told you that I work for /bin/laden11:58
jpatrickthat would explain a lot11:58
jpatrick\sh: rofl11:58
seaLnehehe11:58
kwwiioff to guatanemo with you11:58
\shnono...I will smoke with bush a cigar, but not guatanemo..nono ;)11:59
\shdid I say that?11:59
kwwiiclinton was the one with the cigar fetish11:59
\shWell, I mean smoke a cigar ...nothing else...I'm not monica11:59
\shkwwii: ok...I'll smoke a cigar and doing some "wuff wuff" sound while around bush...he does like dogs right? 12:00
kwwiiyes!12:00
\shhehe...bush is living in the wrong country then...in denmark he could even make^h^h^h^hlove to^h^hdogs ;)12:01
\shhmmm...bug in konversation...^h handling is wrong12:02
seaLneseems to affect some MUAs aswell :)12:03
\shhehe12:03

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