=== neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:toma] : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings Mon 26th 21:00UTC === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon__ [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-30-63.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-149.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pounk [n=pounk@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@72.27.128.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:36] So this chan pretty much dies during Paris? === DaSkreech moves Hobbsee convo over here:) [04:36] How was work today? [04:36] hey DaSkreech [04:36] i didnt go to work todya...i've got an exam in about an hour or so... [04:37] Oh! [04:37] Which exam? [04:38] when is paris begining ? [04:39] I Guess it would be in the wiki [04:39] Monday [04:40] Oh! [04:40] I'll be there then :) === DaSkreech will be chilling here writing code [04:41] computing [04:41] Hobbsee: by the way, you've asked for that a few day ago: I'm not a girl :) [04:42] oh, right :P === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@61.49.167.146] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] Am I allowed to rename Wiki pages? === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-160-188.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-129.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-171.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@221.216.96.233] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:19] ack, departing for paris tomorrow [09:20] i am not looking forward to the transportation part [09:20] Carrying a lot of stuff? [09:30] hi all [09:30] hey there [09:30] this is the most action i have seen in here all day & night [09:32] heya [09:34] hi nixternal Hobbsee [09:35] Hobbsee: good'ay mate ;) [09:36] hmm, say, where is libxine-extracodecs? === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62604.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:37] multiverse [09:38] how was the exam Hobbsee? [09:40] DaSkreech: very easy, but right now i'm trying to salvage dad's computer [09:41] :-) [09:41] You are the community technician? [09:41] well...he asked for a linux cd to fix it... [09:43] Ah :) [09:43] Kinda like Blake Ross's Grandad [09:43] Well I'm going to bed [09:43] Night all [09:43] linux to rescue winderz, might as well run it ;) [09:43] gnight DaSkreech [09:45] bye Da [09:52] Hobbsee: :] [09:53] hey mornfall [09:53] yeah, i think we're almost there [09:53] he seems to want a file that i'm not sure if it exists, let alone if it's corrupted [09:55] brb, need ethanol to clean display [10:01] great, clean display ++ [10:01] mornfall: yay! want to do mine too? [10:09] well, i would like to be of some help, but i think you are bit out of reach [10:10] oh btw [10:10] adept compiles again! [10:10] it even starts [10:10] i'm almost sure it's faster ;-) [10:11] mornfall: yay! [10:12] as soon as it recompiles i will benchmark it [10:14] :) [10:14] mornfall: this is with the caching thingo? [10:14] caching thing? [10:14] thought you had something on your blog about it [10:21] i had, but not quite caching [10:21] well, it's not faster anyway, from numbers [10:23] oh [10:23] pity === \sh [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-249-7.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:27] well, it takes some 3 seconds to do a search on my 1.8GHz pentium M [10:27] of cpu time that is [10:27] mornfall: how much ram there? [10:27] gig [10:28] oh, of cpu time, yeah [10:28] takes way longer than that here, on the odd occasion that i use it [10:31] Hobbsee: kopete need which package for support yahoo's webcam? [10:32] freeflying|away: libjasper-runtime as a dep, and probably libjasper-1.701-dev as a b-d [10:32] freeflying|away: i've only tested with both there [10:33] Hobbsee: okey, I'll rebuild it tomorrow [10:33] k [10:39] mouarf === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-230-90.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:26] let's try with -O2 === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-020-123.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell-awa looks in from Paris === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:02] heya Riddell-awa [12:02] enjoying france ? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950A7C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] imbrandon: I'm all pink with sunburn [12:17] ouch [12:20] heh [12:20] Riddell-awa: ouch! [12:21] Riddell-awa: did you do a me, and fall asleep on the beach or something? [12:21] lol [12:21] s/the beach/in the sun? [12:21] Riddell-awa: everything disintegrated in your absense. [12:22] Hobbsee: no, I took a cruise on la siene and it had no shelter [12:23] ouchy [12:23] ouch [12:23] uh oh, what's broken? [12:23] Riddell-awa: everything :P [12:23] everything === Hobbsee broke it. all of it. === imbrandon taunted her to do it [12:24] Riddell-awa: well, we destroyed your unit first, of course, then went and destroyed everything else. was quite fun, really [12:24] actualy i think me and Hobbsee and mornfall ( untill he gets on the plane ) are the only ones arround, everyone is gone or getting ready to leave it seems [12:24] yeah, that's likely. also, it's saturday here [12:25] here too, i dont think there are many places its still friday [12:25] and a lot of people arent on during weekends [12:25] cept users lol [12:25] i'm leaving around sunday noon [12:26] ahh cool , some reason i thought i was sooner [12:26] s/i/it [12:28] mornfall: seems a dapper user is having trouble getting adept to open again... [12:28] [20:25] 3rd sometimes adept keeps on loading forever for no reason and won't open up [12:29] blah [12:29] details [12:30] that info alone is useless :p [12:31] morning [12:33] morning toma [12:33] mornfall: haha yeah, i thought so. the guy's in #kubuntu, but is going to upgrade to kde 3.5.3 [12:33] he's whinging about all the kubuntu dapper bugs, etc, etc, etc, yada yada yada... [12:39] tell him to use windows [12:39] and stop bitching :) [12:39] Hobbsee: I can see why people do that:-( [12:39] mornfall: haha! [12:40] Hobbsee: I am disappointed in dapper, too. It got regressions from breezy for me and that does not go well with all the "LTS" hype going on right now:-( [12:40] hunger: hmm? about the bugs? until it's on launchpad, i'm not terribly interested :P especially when they deal with $mypetbugthatinfluencesveryfewpeople [12:40] hunger: ouch. which regressions? do i want to know? [12:41] well, cups for one :p [12:41] Hobbsee: The biggest issue is that my laptop no longer suspends... plus lots of minor stuff that is not really important but annoying. [12:41] ah [12:42] Hobbsee: I filed bugs for everything (before dapper got released), but they did not make it into the release. [12:42] Hobbsee: I wouldn't mind too much if it were not for the "LTS-best-ubuntu-ever" hype:-| [12:42] true, there are a lot of bugs there [12:42] heh, yeah. [12:43] Hobbsee: Well, I downgraded to breezy again, that was a really fine release. [12:43] Hobbsee: ... and am waiting for edgy to get steam:-) [12:43] hunger: oddly enough, most people say that breezy was worse :P [12:43] yeah, looking forward to that :) [12:44] i think there is a difference in what you can blame 'dapper' and what is caused by the author of a certain application. I guess not being able to suspend is not a real dapper issue. [12:44] toma: From my understanding that is a kernel bug. So I blame it on dapper. [12:44] seems like a kernel issue maybe? seeing as there was a different kernel in breezy/dapper. it does seem weird though [12:45] toma: The really annoying issue is that the box suspends fine, resumes fine. [12:45] hunger: did dapper patch the kernel then? [12:45] toma: But once it is up it does a nice and clean shutdown. [12:45] hunger: oh that? i had that for breezy! [12:46] toma: Of course garbling the screen with this annoying shutdown usplash that keeps breaking, messing up the screen. [12:47] That damn shutdown graphic makes it impossible to go to single user mode with dapper:-( === \sh [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-249-7.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] moins \sh [12:47] hey \sh [12:48] <\sh> re [12:48] hunger: remove the usplash package then [12:48] <\sh> did anyone tried to build a pbuilder chroot ? [12:48] i must say though, dapper's a huge improvement over hoary. [12:48] wow, but it runs so much faster in valgrind now :) [12:48] <\sh> with debootstrap from edgy installed on dapper? === Hobbsee hasnt. [12:48] Well, having said this, dapper has some really nice stuff:-) It is a nice distribution overall. It really hurts having to use breezy on the laptop. [12:48] mornfall: yay :) [12:49] so let's callgrind it [12:49] <\sh> hunger: what's wrong with dapper? [12:49] \sh: mostly that my laptop does not suspend with it. That makes it pretty useless on that laptop. [12:49] \sh: Plus a couple of annoyances (mostly usplash related). [12:51] \sh: I.e. why is the shutdown usplash run from the kdm init-script? a) it breaks 8 out of 10 times, messing up the screen and b) it makes it impossible to go to singleuser mode. [12:52] <\sh> hunger: well, yes the laptop keys...did you try to call /etc/acpi/sleep.sh manually? [12:52] \sh: Yes. The laptop suspends fine, resumes fine and then automatically does a nice and clean shutdown. [12:53] <\sh> even with the latest kernel update? [12:53] \sh: So basically everything works fine... it is just not really useable:-) [12:53] \sh: Yeap. [12:54] why does a broken suspend has to be with being able to use it? === toma needs coffee [12:55] toma: Suspend is about saving time:-) A resume-shutdown-startup cycle is somewhat longer than a resume cycle:-) [12:55] hunger: how ofte do you do that in a day? [12:56] toma: I suspend about 10 to 20 times a day, depending on how much I have to travel. === Hobbsee hands toma a big mug of coffee === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-020-123.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] Hobbsee: do i smell capuchino? === \sh just canceled all private travellings for today...so coffee is substituted with beer ;) [12:56] toma: possibly, i dont drink coffee :P [12:57] toma: shuting down/restarting is not the issue, but getting all the apps with all the data started again is. [12:57] \sh: haha === Hobbsee hands \sh some beer as well === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-235-238.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] <\sh> Hobbsee: you are not allowed to drink beer, right? ;) [01:00] \sh: well... [01:00] \sh: in a month or so, i'm legal to - so they wont sell it to me [01:00] \sh: What do you think why he is giving the stuff away? ;-) [01:00] whether they'd serve it to me, seeing how old i look, is an interesting question [01:01] <\sh> hunger: well, because she likes me? ;) [01:01] \sh: but besides that, i dont like the taste of the stuff. and there are other reasons too [01:01] heh [01:02] heya ajmitch_! === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch_ [01:02] <\sh> hey ajmitch_ [01:02] Hobbsee: Oh, sorry, I had assumed you were male. [01:02] hello [01:02] hunger: :) most people do. [01:03] back soon [01:03] hunger: there are rumours that there are females on irc [01:03] Hobbsee: Too few women in the FOSS world:-( [01:03] they are false though, utterly and totally false. [01:03] :P [01:03] Hobbsee: of course... [01:03] hunger: i dont blame them, they have to put up with a lot if they want to be a part. [01:04] ajmitch_: Yes, I keep hearing that, too... but I never noticed one yet. [01:04] <\sh> I know some women working on FOSS or promoting at least the usage of FOSS === Hobbsee is just a green bug eyed alien, yes. [01:04] back in a bit - although i'd prefer to stay here [01:04] hold this conversatoin :P [01:04] Hobbsee: Yes, I know:-( Men are idiots. [01:04] \sh: So do I... But still I do assume people in IRC to be male. [01:05] <\sh> ajmitch_: did you try out creating a edgy chroot (debootstrap or pbuilder)? [01:05] <\sh> hunger: how can you tell? [01:05] \sh: Tell what? [01:05] <\sh> I just pretend that I'm a man..but in real life, I'm a woman >:-> [01:06] <\sh> just joking [01:06] \sh: I can not tell... but if I went round assuming people here were female then my rate of error would be higher:-) [01:07] <\sh> actually it doesn't matter if men or women# [01:07] Although that is nothing but an assumption based on how many women I see at tradeshows:-) [01:07] \sh: no, I've only dist-upgraded dapper chroots [01:08] <\sh> ajmitch_: can you try to confirm this [01:08] <\sh> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. [01:08] <\sh> Setting up udev (093-0ubuntu1) ... [01:08] hm, last time I saw \sh he didn't look like a woman.. [01:08] <\sh> /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.postinst: line 82: my_persistent_disk_rules: command not found [01:08] <\sh> dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): [01:08] <\sh> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 [01:08] \sh: Not here, no. Even though I think some men will behave totally moronic once they spot a female here:-( [01:08] \sh: yes, and about 30 other people who have filed that bug as a duplicate in malone [01:08] <\sh> oh well, I'm too slow today [01:08] :) [01:08] it's been there for about 2-3 days [01:08] <\sh> ajmitch_: and this? [01:08] <\sh> I: Configuring ubuntu-keyring... [01:08] <\sh> W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. [01:08] <\sh> W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. [01:09] <\sh> during debootstrap? ;) [01:09] that's probably due to the udev thing above [01:09] I see lots of "can not open file" messages during bootup since I upgraded udev. I assume that is due to incompatibilities and will fix itself once edgy gets a new kernel. [01:09] ok, not 30 [01:10] <\sh> hmmm...food [01:10] only 6 marked as duplicates, surprisingly ;) === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] bug 49925 [01:11] Malone bug 49925 in udev "broken postinst" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49925 [01:14] ajmitch_: I guess there are not many ppl that upgraded to edgy yet. [01:14] back [01:14] ajmitch_: THere is nothing to see yet anyway, except for broken locales:-) [01:15] welcome back, Hobbsee [01:15] hunger: plenty of sources have been synced from debian & are building [01:15] I'm guessing that the publisher is needing to be run for them, or is pending.. [01:16] \sh: Not here, no. Even though I think some men will behave totally moronic once they spot a female here:-( <-- yep, seen that. repeatedly. hence the comment about having to put up with a fair bit. [01:16] thanks ajmitch_ :) [01:17] <\sh> ajmitch_: debhelper is waiting for po-debconf, that's why new udev is FTB [01:17] \sh: yes, I saw there were a few failures :) [01:18] <\sh> tuesday is da day for trying to reactivate my upload rights...let's see what will happen...I'm feverish to upload new stuff ;) [01:18] they'll probably let you back in [01:18] \sh: hehe yay! so we can come and bug you for uploads :D === ajmitch_ can go back into lurking [01:19] ajmitch_: dont think you'll get to go anywhere. [01:19] <\sh> ajmitch_: no ways...you have to help me :) [01:19] Hobbsee: sure I will [01:19] \sh: help with what? [01:20] hmmm...mum's getting sick of the computer problems on the study computer, and now wants a mac. weird. [01:20] <\sh> ajmitch_: with everything..we need to fix the universe ;) === Hobbsee pokes ajmitch_ a few times with her long cattle prod, so that he wont decide to try to lurk again. [01:20] \sh: we'll have < 4 months to fix it all :) [01:20] besides, that's what Hobbsee is for [01:20] what??? [01:21] what am i doing now? [01:21] <\sh> fixing the universe said ajmitch_ [01:21] oh. doesnt he mean breaking the universe? [01:21] we expect her to go to MOTU in the next month or so [01:21] <\sh> ajmitch_: next month? why not now? === Hobbsee tries to fight the urge to check the wiki page to see if she's suddenly been added as a candidate [01:22] because she doesn't have much she's done that's not just fixes [01:22] Hobbsee: nah, you need to join the launchpad team yourself, unfortunately [01:22] \sh: any bets on when she'll go for core-dev? [01:22] ajmitch_: yeah, we're still getting kopete in - there were about 4 of us :P [01:22] <\sh> ajmitch_: hmmm.... [01:23] <\sh> ajmitch_: in 2 months? [01:23] say 2.5 [01:23] <\sh> ajmitch_: what about barry? [01:23] he's already gone for it [01:24] we'll see if he reapplies === Hobbsee is starting to think that \sh and ajmitch_ are off the planet. [01:24] Hobbsee: no, just NZ === Hobbsee certainly wouldnt apply for core dev before edgy+1 [01:24] hah [01:24] <\sh> and simple germany [01:25] ja, ich nicht spreke Deutsch. [01:25] why not? [01:25] because....because... [01:25] you have no reasons [01:25] <\sh> and I don't speak english...fair enough ;) [01:25] ajmitch_: becuase i hate being told no [01:25] \sh: :P [01:25] \sh: it's about the only german i remember [01:26] \sh: will you have time to visit paris at all? [01:26] is anyone here leaving the Paris meeting on the saturday? (24th) === Sime is trying to work out his train ticket. === ajmitch_ would love to be there, really === \sh imagine Hobsee in a wedding chappel, her groom says no...Hobbsee will explode, bet on it...;) [01:27] haha [01:27] <\sh> ajmitch_: no..it's during the week, I can't take off from work...release schedule [01:27] \sh: yes, he will not be found back [01:27] \sh: Who wouldn't? === Hobbsee bites her tongue [01:28] <\sh> hunger: I think if my bride will tell "No" in front of the priest...I would marry her [01:28] \sh: unfortunate [01:28] <\sh> oh that was a paradoxon [01:28] somehow, i suspect that my groom wouldnt leave me at that point - he would have done it ages before that [01:28] \sh: haha [01:28] hehe [01:29] \sh: anyway, get me angry enough, and i do explode. think i've only done it a couple of times on ubuntu related stuff though. [01:29] Hobbsee: or he is to scared to do that [01:29] Hobbsee: Well, I was kind of surprised that my bride did not run away screeming at the altar:-) [01:29] toma: hehe, now hey, i'm not *that* scary :P [01:29] <\sh> hunger: she did see you the first time at the altar? ;)) === \sh listens to a nice song right now...fitting to this conversation...Iced Earth: I died for you... [01:30] \sh: Nope:-) [01:31] Hobbsee: there is no way we can confim that ;-) === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] toma: not unless someone comes and meets me, then comes back alive [01:32] toma: she just needs to get sponsored to the next conference :) === Hobbsee isnt even going to dream about that idea [01:32] seems pretty futile to dream of that [01:33] you don't want to dream fo being locked in a hotel for a week with a bunch of geeks? ;) [01:33] Hobbsee: unless you are close to darwin, i can't arrange that soon [01:33] although i would like to meet up with everyone one day [01:33] <\sh> oh...lets wait until riddell votes for you on the internal wiki for sponsorship [01:33] ajmitch_: could be fun :P depensd what happens there [01:33] if i just get to be crazy in person like i am on irc :P [01:34] Hobbsee, speaking of kopete , is the code on Riddell's space the latest ? [01:34] heh [01:34] <\sh> Hobbsee: believe me, you are surprised, how "normal" all those "crazy irc" people are in real life [01:34] \sh: well, some of them [01:34] \sh, or atleaste toned down ;) [01:34] normal as in normal nerds you mean [01:34] some of them are just as crazy [01:34] <\sh> ajmitch_: e.g.? [01:34] imbrandon: um. well, apachelogger put it up on revu, riddell reviewed it, said there was stuff to be changed - i emailed details to him about what needed fixing that i'd found, but have no reply [01:35] imbrandon: seems like bzr would be useful or something :P [01:35] \sh: jdub [01:35] Hobbsee, yea seeing how you me riddell and freeflying are all working on it lol [01:35] though he can be quite normal as well [01:35] <\sh> ajmitch_: well, yes, but he will be different at home with his wife ;) [01:35] wiki.ubuntu.com/BzrMaintainerHowto [01:36] \sh: you haven't met pia, have you? [01:36] thanks ajmitch_ - now we just need the latets code :P [01:36] <\sh> ajmitch_: I read about her... === Hobbsee met pia over IRC, actually. [01:36] right ... === ajmitch_ has met pia in person a few times [01:36] <\sh> ajmitch_: don't tell me she was sitting next to jdub, when he dropped his pants [01:36] \sh: tmi lol [01:37] Hobbsee, if you see Riddell-awa later on see if you can figure out where the latest branch is and we'll setup brz [01:37] launchpad is great, but a little slow for the initial push [01:38] imbrandon: okay, it's 1.37pm there now, so he should be around somewhere [01:38] yea you just need a ssh key registed with lp right ajmitch_ ? [01:38] especially if you use a branch for each patch, since it doesn't use repositories on the server :) [01:38] imbrandon: yep [01:38] <\sh> ajmitch_: I tried to upload something to bazaar.launchpad.net...but it didn't work...do I need to be in the core-team to push something to this location? [01:38] \sh: if you're pushing to ~ubuntu-core-dev/product/branch [01:38] otherwise you push to your own space [01:38] <\sh> ajmitch_: that's what I tried [01:38] ack, i'm deaded [01:38] <\sh> ajmitch_: I wanted to push kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts [01:39] \sh: to where? [01:39] <\sh> ajmitch_: ubuntu-core-dev/... [01:39] <\sh> I created a prodct [01:39] well you're not in the team, so of course it won't work :) [01:39] ajmitch_, what is "your space" like ~/ or something on lp ? [01:39] get reactivated & then try [01:39] <\sh> product even (damn german keyboard on this t43) [01:39] imbrandon: sftp://$USER@bazaar.launchpad.net/~$USER/$PRODUCT/ubuntu.$NAME [01:39] <\sh> ajmitch_: ok..so it's group based :) [01:40] \sh: yes, it's all tied to the people & teams on lp [01:41] initial push probably requires --create-prefix [01:41] I think all that is on the wiki [01:41] yeah, seems to be [01:41] <\sh> ajmitch_: hehe..I read scotts introduction === ajmitch_ tries to recall how to push a branch that isn't against a product [01:42] hmmm...i have no ssh key currently, too [01:42] heh [01:42] imbrandon: I've got some code that isn't packaged yet [01:42] see Hobbsee and its sftp, should have learned a bit of ssh like i said before ;) [01:42] for ? [01:42] SoC stuff [01:42] imbrandon: yeah yeah...it's not like iv'e been doing anything else like studying, is it? [01:43] Hobbsee, hehhe [01:43] Hobbsee: not from what I've heard :P [01:43] <\sh> ajmitch_: are you mentoring someone? [01:43] \sh: hah no, I'm a student ;) [01:43] imbrandon: oh, and kicking people at random, and dying bloodily cos i got shot. [01:43] \sh: mithrandir is my mentor for network authentication [01:43] lol [01:43] <\sh> ajmitch_: oh cool :) [01:44] with this money, I can go to far off foreign lands [01:44] like the north island [01:44] hehe [01:44] lol [01:44] i was about to say "like australia?" [01:44] Hobbsee: nah, it's cheaper to fly to .au [01:45] ajmitch_: hush you @ the study comment. especially hush around my parents about that :P [01:45] as if I'd bring it up, ever [01:45] ajmitch_: good :) [01:45] see to it that you dont. [01:45] heh === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch_ to show that she isnt a horrible tyrant [01:46] sure.. [01:47] <\sh> ajmitch_: you grab the money from SoC and come to germany next year during linuxtag time..or this year for linuxexpo in cologne [01:47] \sh: I'd love to :) === Hobbsee has a sudden evil plot [01:47] s/plot/plan [01:47] <\sh> Hobbsee: you come to germany too? [01:47] \sh: er, how? [01:47] though flying all that way for linuxtag/linuxexpo will cost a lot [01:48] Hobbsee: calling it an evil plan doesn't sound that much better [01:48] ajmitch_: true [01:48] plan is better than plot how ? [01:48] <\sh> ajmitch_: well, visit europe then [01:48] Hobbsee: deal with hiver over in #ubuntu, will you? :) [01:48] \sh: if I'm working & have the money to spare :) === ajmitch_ would be more likely to go to europe for study [01:49] <\sh> ajmitch_: wanna work in germany for good money, NOW? :) [01:49] \sh: sure :) === Hobbsee was just contemplating putting dad's computer out of action again [01:49] ajmitch_: thanks mate [01:50] why would you do that? [01:50] <\sh> ajmitch_: you are in this zope/plone business and you are able to port some windows sources to linux? [01:50] \sh: what sort of work? [01:50] ajmitch_: so he wants the install cd, not the live cd. [01:50] \sh: source for what? [01:50] <\sh> ajmitch_: or sysadmin stuff? === ajmitch_ does some zope/plone & can do sysadmin.. [01:51] <\sh> ajmitch_: I can't tell you anything about it, but it's pure windows crap...and it needs to be ported as native app to linux [01:51] <\sh> ajmitch_: frontend [01:51] win32 API? [01:51] <\sh> ajmitch_: yes [01:51] sounds more like a rewrite than a port [01:51] <\sh> ajmitch_: first step will be wine anyways as I understood our devs [01:52] right === ajmitch_ doesn't speak any german, of course :) [01:52] <\sh> ajmitch_: but just because, it has to be ported asap [01:52] ajmitch_: make it up :P [01:53] Hobbsee: like australians do with english? ;) === ajmitch_ hides quickly [01:53] ajmitch_: haha === Hobbsee smacks ajmitch_ [01:53] <\sh> ajmitch_: try babelfish on http://www.combots.com/jobs_de.html [01:53] <\sh> ajmitch_: you will see the list of open positions === Hobbsee goes to his hiding place, and smacks him again. hmph [01:53] <\sh> ajmitch_: you will learn german in no time, believe me.. [01:54] such a sweet, charming girl [01:54] hehe === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch_ [01:54] hmmm \sh looks fun [01:55] <\sh> imbrandon: it is :) [01:55] \sh: but they need someone now, not next month? :) [01:55] how tolerant would they be of a non german speaker ;) === \sh [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-249-7.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] imbrandon: a *NZ* non-german speaker, which would be even worse [01:56] <\sh> grmpf [01:56] <\sh> re [01:56] <\sh> we have right now, 55% freelancers, and 45% employees :) [01:56] <\sh> so they need personal === Hobbsee ducks before she gets smacked in return :P [01:57] <\sh> and everybody is talking english as 2nd language [01:57] lol [01:57] Hobbsee: I'm not going to smack you :P [01:57] hmm...this would be easier to read with babelfish [01:57] ajmitch_: sure sure :P [01:58] <\sh> s/talking/speaking/ [01:58] \sh: it's interesting for sure :) === ajmitch_ wonders how hard it'd be to get a work visa === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] <\sh> ajmitch_: send your CV etc. to HR and ask there what they can do... [02:00] <\sh> ajmitch_: tell them that you are very involved in debian/ubuntu development etc. and you apply for a job in the sysadmin team..so you land directly at my boss ;) [02:00] <\sh> and he is debian fanatic [02:00] and you put in a good word for the struggling, poor debian developer? ;) [02:01] ;) [02:01] <\sh> ajmitch_: amu did it for me :) === Hobbsee kickbans another user :) [02:02] typical [02:02] Hobbsee: you take far too much pleasure from that [02:02] ajmitch_: hehe [02:02] power-mad ops.. [02:02] ajmitch_: you want to move to Europe? [02:03] ajmitch_: you're next :P [02:03] raphink_sleep: sure, it'd be fun :) [02:03] ajmitch_: nice :) [02:03] ajmitch_: you should have seen us last night, gosh it was funny! [02:03] my company is also a great place for linux fans [02:03] <\sh> raphink_sleep: if we can free australia and new zealand, we have a new prisoners colony for europe ;) [02:03] in my service we are about 40 linux system admins === imbrandon is wanting to move to europe also ( was just talking about it last nigtht ) [02:03] \sh: ahah [02:04] imbrandon: from? [02:04] \sh, lol [02:04] raphink, USA ( Kansas City ) [02:04] \sh: haha. yes, but wouldnt that requre me from moving too? [02:04] ok [02:04] Hobbsee: you can move, too ;) [02:04] <\sh> Hobbsee: you have to :) [02:04] we need linux people in europe :) [02:05] we need linux people in NZ [02:05] well, everywhere I guess ;) [02:05] hehe [02:05] raphink, what company ? [02:06] me move? eek [02:08] \sh: where in .de are you? [02:10] <\sh> ajmitch_: I'm near cologne..but the company is in karlsruhe [02:10] right [02:10] <\sh> cologne <-> karlsruhe around 400km === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] <\sh> one way [02:14] \sh: raphink: i dont think you should tempt me about moving. i might just do it [02:15] Hobbsee: so it's really much faster now :] [02:15] mornfall: yay! [02:15] 2 seconds on 800MHz pentium M [02:16] 0.5-1s on 1.8GHz pentium M [02:17] nice mornfall [02:17] yeah, i'm pretty happy about it :) [02:18] mornfall: we'll get an update for edgy then? [02:18] one less thing for people to complain about? [02:18] no, revise that, they'll find something else to complain about anyway === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-241-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] uh oh, i think i killed the conversation [02:22] heh [02:22] well done [02:22] heh === Hobbsee bows [02:22] curtsey [02:22] ;) [02:23] no, to curtsey i have to be wearing a skirt. [02:24] uhh ok [02:24] :) [02:25] hrm i think i'm gonna goto bed and watch a movie ( the new world ) , gnight all [02:25] night === ajmitch_ should go to bed soon === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] imbrandon: and by association, skirts are impractical. [02:28] imbrandon: try wearing one one day, if you dont believe me, and then try running up and down stairs, and jumping on/off stages. [02:28] it *is* possible to do it decently, but it does require practice. [02:28] night ajmitch_ [02:29] is this the kubuntu channel? [02:29]