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raphink	ernie : be aware that the console has tab completion	12:03
raphink	so typing `bitc` and then tab should be enough	12:04
raphink	I guess	12:04
raphink	don' thave this app installed	12:04
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[Evil] [Ernie]	hrm	12:04
raphink	(and i don't want it, since i'm happy with konversation :))	12:04
[Evil] [Ernie]	aye	12:04
[Evil] [Ernie]	konversation is easier to use it seems	12:04
raphink	konversation is integrated in KDE, too	12:05
raphink	bitchx is not	12:05
raphink	;)	12:05
[Evil] [Ernie]	bitchx has a neat terminal look to it	12:05
[Evil] [Ernie]	ah, that would be why!	12:05
[Evil] [Ernie]	i think!	12:05
raphink	if you want a kde-based irc client	12:05
raphink	there are others	12:05
raphink	most kde apps have their name beginning with a k	12:05
raphink	;)	12:05
raphink	so you've got kvirc, ksirc, etc...	12:06
[Evil] [Ernie]	unsure if you're very familiar with windows applications	12:06
[Evil] [Ernie]	i've used mIRC for years	12:06
[Evil] [Ernie]	the nice part was the fact that you could script anything you wanted into the client....	12:06
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raphink	type `apt-cache search irc client kde` in a console	12:06
raphink	you can script a lot in konversation, too	12:06
raphink	in any language you want	12:06
raphink	:)	12:06
[Evil] [Ernie]	hm!	12:07
raphink	and even use dcop to communicate with other kde apps	12:07
[Evil] [Ernie]	Really!	12:07
raphink	e.g. if you want to get the track being played in amarok	12:07
raphink	;)	12:07
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xwolf-	!mov	12:07
ubotu	xwolf-: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	12:07
xwolf-	!quicktime	12:07
ubotu	methinks quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime0" package (for Ubuntu 6.06) or "libquicktime1" (for Ubuntu 5.10).	12:07
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[Evil] [Ernie]	i didnt see scripting stuff in the help file =o	12:08
inaciog	hi everybody, is there any problem going on with the kubuntu repositories?	12:08
[Evil] [Ernie]	im not experiencing any problems	12:09
inaciog	weird	12:09
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inaciog	i'm getting BREAK (install) for any package	12:09
inaciog	I just installed 6.06	12:09
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Leqtic	DOes anyone know how to make auto sudo in kubuntu?	12:17
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jme__	Leqtic: do 'su -' and then all your command will be like after sudo	12:18
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Leqtic	ah hey jme__ u here too :)	12:18
Leqtic	I just reinstalled	12:18
Leqtic	Wanna do stuff straigh this time and make it my first choice OS instead of windows	12:19
Leqtic	i did su	12:19
Leqtic	then it wants a password	12:19
Leqtic	and i type my password but it says Auth failed	12:20
jme__	yep same password as the sudoone	12:20
jme__	'su -'	12:20
Leqtic	nah	12:20
jme__	well it is your root password :)	12:20
Leqtic	dude.. i typed my pass same as I use for sudo	12:20
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jme__	it better be working :)	12:20
Leqtic	doesnt	12:20
Hawkwind	I get the same error here	12:20
jme__	?	12:20
Hawkwind	su - doesn't recognize the sudo password	12:20
Leqtic	sudo -i password works	12:20
Leqtic	su doest	12:20
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DarkRaven	i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?	12:21
erov	sudo passwd	12:21
jme__	ok ubuntu change the stuff then :)	12:21
jme__	'su -	12:21
erov	then set a passwd for root	12:21
inaciog	anybody has any clue of what may be happening? I have universe enabled, but if I try to install firefox I get "Package firefox has no installation candidate"	12:21
erov	then su <new root pass> root doesnt have a pass by default	12:21
jme__	su - worked on any unix for the last 20 years :)	12:21
DarkRaven	jme__ lol	12:21
Hawkwind	jme__: But Ubuntu doesn't use su by default	12:21
erov	root-less adminstration.. less room for fuck ups.. but you can set a root passwd by using sudo to do it	12:21
DarkRaven	with ubuntu you can use sudo	12:22
erov	then su will work.. using the new root password you set	12:22
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DarkRaven	i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?	12:22
erov	or just type login at the prompt... then login as root	12:22
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jme__	erov: well it is 'rootless' shell maybe :) not not admin :)	12:22
Leqtic	lol christ	12:22
Leqtic	guys please ure confusing me	12:22
Leqtic	I cna login as sudo -i	12:22
Leqtic	can	12:22
Hawkwind	Leqtic: sudo passwd	12:23
Leqtic	then what	12:23
DarkRaven	what is the command to see if the nvidia module is reale charged?	12:23
Hawkwind	Leqtic: Set the password you want	12:23
erov	sudo passwd, su (use the new password)	12:23
Hawkwind	Leqtic: Then you can su -	12:23
erov	or su -	12:23
Leqtic	Hawkwind thanks =)	12:23
Leqtic	worked	12:23
erov	but root doesnt have a pass by default if i remember	12:23
Leqtic	thanks guys =)	12:23
Leqtic	helped quite alot	12:23
Leqtic	erov: u remember correctly	12:23
Leqtic	how do u make that u don't have to type password everytime u open adept?	12:24
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DarkRaven	i think you can't	12:24
erov	now THAT i want to know	12:24
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jme__	kdesu has no timeout in the config ?	12:24
erov	because in an earlier version i saw a checkbox to let the wallet keep it	12:24
jme__	something like you type it once and it remain root for say 5min ?	12:24
jme__	gnomesu has something like that	12:24
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Leqtic	okay well if it doesnt work then it doesnt, nothing you can do	12:25
Leqtic	=) has anyone actually fixed Kismet on Kubuntu?	12:25
erov	wtf is kismet :p	12:25
DarkRaven	i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?	12:25
Tommy2k4	panning in opera with the mousewheel scrolls really slow =/	12:25
Tommy2k4	in windows it normally accelerates	12:25
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erov	what video card tommy	12:27
jme__	http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdesu/sec-password-keeping.html	12:28
Tommy2k4	onboard	12:28
jme__	For your comfort, KDE su implements a keep password feature.	12:28
Tommy2k4	intel 810 i think	12:28
edu	tem brasileiro aqui?	12:28
DarkRaven	someone help me plz....	12:28
DarkRaven	i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?	12:28
Leqtic	Does anyone know how I get a little "My computer" on my desktop?	12:28
jme__	who was it asking for adept and asking for passwd everytime ?	12:28
erov	me jme	12:29
erov	and someone else	12:29
Leqtic	jme__: me	12:29
Leqtic	lol	12:29
edu	tem brasileiro aqui?	12:29
erov	i am reading it now	12:29
edu	tem brasileiro aqui?	12:29
erov	NO BRASIL	12:29
Leqtic	erov: wtf?	12:29
edu	thanks	12:29
Leqtic	brasil problems...had them in Tibia :/	12:29
jme__	erov: Leqtic: go see For your comfort, KDE su implements a keep password feature. http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdesu/sec-password-keeping.html	12:29
jme__	this is about this	12:29
Leqtic	jme__: thanks	12:29
Leqtic	jme__:	12:29
Leqtic	do u know how to	12:29
Leqtic	how I get a little "My computer" on my desktop?	12:30
jme__	yeah :)	12:30
jme__	ah, no :)	12:30
Leqtic	.. :/	12:30
jme__	not hard tho :)	12:30
erov	right click	12:30
jme__	likely just a shortcut	12:30
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erov	link to a location	12:30
Leqtic	done :9 thanks	12:31
Leqtic	You learn something new everyday :D	12:31
Leqtic	media:/	12:31
erov	system:/media oryes that	12:31
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Leqtic	GOD this new Linux stuff feels so....GOOOD :D	12:34
erov	it does, at that	12:34
erov	i really like the kde desktop/suite	12:34
Leqtic	:( not me, but it beats GNOME (HATE MAC)	12:35
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erov	i didnt even give gnome a try	12:36
Leqtic	same here :D	12:36
Leqtic	havent even tried it, but I have tried Mac, and I didnt like it	12:36
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Leqtic	erov: should I get build-essential?	12:37
SOULRiDER	hi	12:37
erov	if you want to compile and such	12:37
erov	yes	12:37
newuserAK	i use macs and i find kde to be much more intuitive than gnome	12:37
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DarkRaven	I SOLVED!!!! MODULE NAME CHANGED FROM NVIDIA TO NVIDIA-KERNEL	12:37
erov	DarkRaven: doh	12:37
DarkRaven	this is how to solve nvidia issues!	12:37
DarkRaven	lol	12:37
DarkRaven	before i used nvidia now i must use nvidia-kernel in /etc/modules	12:38
SOULRiDER	do you mind if i ask some simple newbie questions? :P	12:38
DarkRaven	asd soulrider	12:38
DarkRaven	ask	12:38
SOULRiDER	ok	12:38
erov	ask away.. anything's game here	12:38
SOULRiDER	well, how easy is this disto for people who have had almost no experience with Linux?	12:38
Leqtic	SOULRiDER: not that much	12:38
Leqtic	SOULRiDER: Im a newb... and I didn't even knew how to make a shortcut :/	12:39
SOULRiDER	O.O	12:39
DarkRaven	soulrider is the easiest	12:39
SOULRiDER	well, i tried other distros	12:39
erov	pretty easy if you are good at reading and solving things.. you cant compare it to previous OS's .. but it becomes familiar as you go along	12:39
DarkRaven	i never used linux	12:39
SOULRiDER	and what was really complicated for me	12:39
Leqtic	SOULRiDER: first remove caps from your name, second get something easier, like Mandriva/Mandrake	12:39
SOULRiDER	was compiling and such	12:39
DarkRaven	and i have throw windows out the the "window" after trying kubuntu	12:39
erov	you make a shortcut same as windows.. right click.. shortcut	12:39
DarkRaven	soulrider is all automatizated in kubuntu & ubuntu	12:39
DarkRaven	auto mount	12:39
DarkRaven	auto update	12:39
SOULRiDER	not all my nick is caps :P but ill change it	12:39
DarkRaven	auto kernel compilation and so on :P	12:40
erov	soulrider.. there is no compiling needed unless you want something not readily available in binary repositories	12:40
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DarkRaven	soulrider packages are all ready for click & install	12:40
Leqtic	erov: Kimser requires :)	12:40
soulrider	uhm k	12:40
soulrider	but what if i downlaod a program	12:40
soulrider	wont i ahve to compile ?	12:40
soulrider	as you can see im an utter n00b :P	12:40
DarkRaven	4 moths ago installing gentoo i though that i would never be a linux user, and now i'm proud to be a linux user and to have quitted forever with windows :P	12:40
jme__	soulrider: nope	12:40
jme__	soulrider: you should give it a try thru a livecd	12:41
DarkRaven	soulrider you can download program free vi a download manager called synaptic	12:41
erov	if it is not available.. then yes.. but most programs are readily pre-compiled	12:41
DarkRaven	or adept	12:41
Leqtic	this Dist is quite buggy too, sometimes applications such as Wireless Assistant won't even start	12:41
DarkRaven	in your base installation	12:41
Leqtic	I just started Wireless Assistant it loads for like 20 seconds then shuts down	12:41
DarkRaven	leqtic wireless is working on my pc even if i don't have a wireless network	12:41
DarkRaven	lol	12:41
jme__	soulrider: you download the CD, rip it and then boot it. without altering your hard disk, you will run linux directly our the cd	12:41
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jme__	soulrider: this is made to ease the discovery of linux without taking the risk of removing your previous OS	12:42
soulrider	yes, iw as planning to run a live distro	12:42
soulrider	and that leads me to a second question	12:42
erov	wireless works OK here.. i did have to play around.. it's because I bought a cheap pci wireless card though.. an acx111 deal.. the TI chipsets.. ugh	12:42
soulrider	it will sound lame but, can i run it form a pen drive? :P	12:42
soulrider	i dotn feel like burning a CD .P	12:42
kuzmaster	hey all	12:42
kuzmaster	!kde	12:42
erov	yes soulrider i believe so	12:42
Leqtic	!kde	12:42
soulrider	ok :)	12:42
kuzmaster	!gnome	12:42
soulrider	i guess ill give it a go	12:42
Leqtic	!gnome	12:42
soulrider	oh wait	12:42
iNiku	soulrider: I doubt it will work	12:43
soulrider	java apps i make will still run on linux right?	12:43
erov	the image is meant to be a cd i guess but if not.. there are ways to make a cd image bootable from a pen drive anyways	12:43
Leqtic	Erhm should I be worried that im trying to "detect my current plattform" for like 10 minutes,,, OMFG IM LOOSING IT.. it worked just before I reinstalled Kubuntu	12:43
iNiku	soulrider: CD booting is different from booting from an USB device	12:43
jme__	soulrider: right	12:43
Leqtic	Why doesn't it work now.	12:43
erov	i saw some software for making a live cd -> usb	12:43
kuzmaster	what version does kubuntu dapper drake comewith?	12:43
soulrider	well	12:43
soulrider	im just too mean to burna CD	12:43
jme__	soulrider: and burn the cd, it will be faster and easier for you	12:43
soulrider	but iw ill if i ahve to	12:43
DarkRaven	soulrider there is only a problem.... if you have an usb modem prepare yourself to die LOOOL	12:43
soulrider	allt hat pirace makes up for it anyways :P	12:44
erov	k	12:44
Leqtic	.....can someone help me	12:44
soulrider	no lol	12:44
Leqtic	I had Detecting your current platform" up for like 10 minutes now	12:44
soulrider	i connect to te internet through ppop	12:44
soulrider	or soemhtign like that	12:44
DarkRaven	soulrider you got ethernet?	12:44
DarkRaven	allright	12:44
Leqtic	It can't find my NICs (i got a wireless and a non wireless) it worked just before I reiinstalled Ubuntu :/	12:44
DarkRaven	:P	12:44
soulrider	err, me thinks :P	12:44
DarkRaven	so you would have not problem with kubuntu	12:44
soulrider	pppoe thats it	12:44
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soulrider	cool	12:44
soulrider	thanks for the help :)	12:45
DarkRaven	yes but pppoe via ethernet?	12:45
DarkRaven	you are using LAN?	12:45
soulrider	i think so	12:45
soulrider	this is how i ahve it	12:45
soulrider	modem connected to a router	12:45
soulrider	which is utter crap	12:45
soulrider	and my comp connected to the router	12:45
soulrider	but i still gotta dial	12:45
erov	ahhhh	12:45
soulrider	because the fucking router doesnt want to do so	12:45
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soulrider	even if i make the switch ill stillhave to keep windoze here	12:46
soulrider	g2g	12:46
soulrider	bbbl	12:46
soulrider	see you adn thanks!	12:46
FishBoy	hello, is this the kubuntu chat thing?	12:47
iNiku	no, it's the kubuntu irc channel :)	12:48
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FishBoy	all the same to me :p	12:48
DarkRaven	going to bed	12:49
erov	later	12:49
DarkRaven	bye :))	12:49
FishBoy	well could i get help here?	12:49
erov	yes, fish	12:49
FishBoy	i just installed kubuntu and i don't what the root password is i never set one	12:49
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erov	ok , just went over this, there is no root password by default.. you mostly use the user acount and sudo for things.. if you want to set a root pass... then 'sudo passwd' at a prompt	12:50
erov	but understand it was designed to be controlled on a need basis to protect the user	12:50
iNiku	or, in other words, sudo gives you access to the root account using your own user password	12:51
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iNiku	hence no root password needed	12:51
erov	put better	12:51
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Shaezsche	what will happen to my kubuntu if i install the latest untstable kernel?	12:52
FishBoy	cool it worked	12:52
FishBoy	thanks	12:53
tobberoth	Is there something wrong with my ipod/kubuntu if it won't automatically mount my ipod to /media/ipod ??	12:54
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JohnFlux	tobberoth: nothing pops up when you plug it in?	12:54
JohnFlux	tobberoth: go to system:// and the storage devices	12:55
tobberoth	JohnFlux I can access it and it's put on my desktop, but it's mounted in /media/sdg1	12:55
JohnFlux	oh right. so? :)	12:55
kuzmaster	what version dose dapper drake come with?	12:55
tobberoth	JohnFlux: Why isn't it put in /ipod? It's an iPod you see :) ^^	12:56
kuzmaster	what version of KDE, dose kubuntu dapper drake come with	12:56
JohnFlux	kuzmaster: what version of what?	12:56
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kuzmaster	kde	12:56
JohnFlux	tobberoth: what makes you think it should go in /media/ipod ?	12:56
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JohnFlux	tobberoth: or just guessing right?	12:56
tobberoth	JohnFlux: It's an ipod, and since there is an ipod directory, i figured it would be put there.	12:56
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tobberoth	And amarok crashes because of my iPod.. so I think there's something wrong.	12:57
JohnFlux	tobberoth: you have a /media/ipod folder?	12:57
tobberoth	Yeah.	12:57
JohnFlux	tobberoth: and you didn't create it I take ;)	12:57
tobberoth	Yeah.	12:57
tobberoth	My only guess is that GNOME put my ipod there, but KDE doesn't.	12:57
JohnFlux	ah maybe	12:57
tobberoth	Which leaves me with two options: 1. KDE doesn't think it's an ipod. There we go for the amarok error. 2. KDE simple doesn't call it an ipod.	12:58
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JohnFlux	tobberoth: KDE sees just a mass storage device	12:58
JohnFlux	tobberoth: past that, KDE doesn't care	12:58
tobberoth	Hmm.. but amarok seems to care :/	12:58
JohnFlux	tobberoth: if amarok is crashing, there's something wrong with amarok...	12:59
JohnFlux	right	12:59
JohnFlux	maybe ask on #amarok	12:59
JohnFlux	better yet, file a bug on bugs.kde.org	12:59
JohnFlux	only take a couple of minutes	12:59
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JohnFlux	tobberoth: however..	01:00
JohnFlux	tobberoth: you said this was kde simple?	01:00
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tobberoth	JohnFlux, I think I might have a fix.. hold on	01:01
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tobberoth	JohnFlux: It's behaving strange, but at least it's working. I tried to rename it something, so it would mount into /media/thatname and then amarok would manually search there..	01:04
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tobberoth	Didn't work, but this works just as well I suppose	01:04
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JohnFlux	tobberoth: ask in #amaork	01:05
JohnFlux	tobberoth: ask in #amarok	01:05
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tobberoth	JohnFlux: I did, they didn't have a clue either :)	01:06
JohnFlux	ah :/	01:06
JohnFlux	amarok crashes?	01:06
tobberoth	JohnFlux: No, it seems to work right now.. hopefully it keeps it up :)	01:07
JohnFlux	I don't have a checkout of kde3 so I can't even debug it	01:07
JohnFlux	best I can say is file a bug on bugs.kde.org	01:07
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FearMoth	how do I add the universe and multiverse repositories in adept?	01:08
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Firetech	hmm, is there any way to move files around on an ext3 parition, so it can be resized to a smaller size with the same information left on it? (my files are a bit wildly distributed right now)	01:12
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JohnFlux	Firetech: are you using qtparted for the resizing?	01:17
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Firetech	JohnFlux: qtparted can't handle resizing ext3	01:19
JohnFlux	yeah i just noticed	01:19
JohnFlux	hmm, google around :)	01:19
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Firetech	I use partition magic	01:19
Firetech	meh, it's only 5 GB of data, I can backup that :P	01:20
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Firetech	I have a USB-drive anyway	01:20
slow-motion	n8	01:25
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Leqtic_	DOes anyone know how to put a minimize ALL near the K button?	01:30
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Snake	Leqtic_: like a show desktop button?	01:32
JohnFlux	Leqtic_: right click, add applet, then chose show desktop	01:32
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Snake	Leqtic_: follow above instructions	01:33
Snake	:)	01:33
Snake	JohnFlux: anything intresting in kde4?	01:33
JohnFlux	I hope so :)	01:33
JohnFlux	i'm working on ksysguard	01:33
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JohnFlux	yeah, just quietly coding	01:34
Snake	ksysguard... whats that dooo	01:34
Leqtic_	thanks Snake :D	01:34
JohnFlux	Snake: the task manager thing	01:34
Snake	Leqtic_: Thank JohnFlux, he wrote the instructions :P	01:34
JohnFlux	Snake: when you press ctrl+esc	01:34
Snake	JohnFlux: ahhhhhhhhhh good stuff. never use it, but good stuff :P	01:34
JohnFlux	Snake: not many people use it - it's pretty awful	01:35
Leqtic_	ops	01:35
JohnFlux	Snake: but it's getting a lot nicer in kde	01:35
Leqtic_	JohnFlux: thanks.. got confused by the colours :D	01:35
Snake	JohnFlux: not really much reason to use it really, pstree and killall suit me fine	01:35
Snake	But you can search, which is nice	01:35
tobberoth	I prefer GUI approches to ps aux myself.	01:35
JohnFlux	Snake: there's a lot more to it	01:35
Snake	JohnFlux: prolly is :)	01:36
JohnFlux	Snake: the memory reporting is one of the things I've been working on	01:36
JohnFlux	for example, it now reports the memory an app uses in X	01:36
JohnFlux	it also shows the title of the app	01:36
JohnFlux	kinda like in windows	01:36
Snake	Thats cool	01:36
Snake	Oooo pretty charts	01:37
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bobesponja__	what is the default mysql user on kubuntu?	01:37
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[Evil] [Ernie]	is amarok supposed to be able to play mp3's by default?	01:37
[Evil] [Ernie]	or do i need to download a package	01:37
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Snake	uniq: tell [Evil] [Ernie] about mp3	01:38
Snake	grr	01:38
[Evil] [Ernie]	!mp3	01:38
ubotu	mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	01:38
Snake	yea you could do that	01:38
[Evil] [Ernie]	thanks =o	01:38
[Evil] [Ernie]	always forget about that	01:38
Snake	Hehe	01:38
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Snake	JohnFlux: wow this is a useful tool	01:39
Snake	haha	01:39
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Celeste	hi!	01:39
Snake	Welcome	01:39
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Celeste	Does "kubuntu" have a live PLUS installer CD like ubuntu?	01:41
Snake	Celeste: yes, just get the Desktop Kubuntu CD	01:41
Snake	:)	01:41
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Celeste	Snake, ok thank you! Snake may I ask you one more thing?	01:42
Snake	Go for it	01:42
Celeste	thank you	01:42
Snake	Also, no need to ask permission, just ask, and if someone can answer, they will :)	01:42
Celeste	I do have a ubuntu CD here ... I installed it and did a "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then	01:42
Celeste	"kicker" - this is the panel sometimes (3 times a day) crashes	01:43
Celeste	this is annoying	01:43
Snake	Wow thats bad..	01:43
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Celeste	I wanted to know if the same will happen if I download kubuntu itself	01:43
Snake	It shouldn't	01:43
Snake	Kubuntu (especially kicker) is really stable	01:43
Snake	Celeste: it would also depend on what applets you have running	01:44
Celeste	so kubuntu != ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop ?	01:44
Celeste	no other applets	01:44
Celeste	well ... a clock	01:44
Imagery	hello, I suddenly got trouble playing video files with xv (which is default), but specifying other outputs like x11 works fine. all players crash I have tried so far crashes with that. X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 2 0	01:44
Snake	Celeste: Not exactly, if you do Ubuntu then add kubuntu-desktop, you have lots of gnome applications and gtk librarys taking up space etc, that you wouldnt need if you only got Kubuntu	01:44
Snake	Imagery: I have no idea :( Perhaps some else will	01:45
Celeste	Imagery, also when I am no dev, it could be a good idea to ask in #xorg	01:45
Celeste	Imagery, it seems to be more an xorg based problem	01:45
Imagery	hrm	01:45
Celeste	Snake, so I should download kubuntu ...	01:45
Imagery	I'll try asking there	01:45
Snake	Celeste: if all you want is kubuntu, yepperz	01:45
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Snake	Celeste: and it is much more stable than what you describe, 3 times a day is terriable	01:46
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Celeste	Snake, what would you say to "toshiba laptop + kubuntu" ?	01:46
Celeste	Snake, following things should work:	01:46
Celeste	1) the onboard 56K modem	01:46
Celeste	2) the ehernet card	01:46
Celeste	3) sound	01:47
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Celeste	4) a USB stick for WLAN	01:47
Celeste	the rest should be ok	01:47
Snake	Celeste: Run the kubuntu desktop cd, see what works and what doesnt, if it works on ubuntu, it will probly more than likely work on kubuntu	01:47
Snake	Celeste: also check this:	01:47
Snake	!laptops	01:47
ubotu	Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake	01:47
Snake	!laptop	01:47
ubotu	laptop is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org	01:47
Celeste	how can I find out what Laptop I have?	01:48
Celeste	i just know its a toshiba	01:48
Snake	Celeste: im not sure what version your running, but you could try to look it up on that first link ubotu spit out	01:48
Celeste	Dapper	01:48
Snake	Celeste: No idea, perhaps check the stickers underneath etc	01:48
Rede	ok, so adept wants me to update my kernel. is everything going to work properly if i do or will i have to reconfigure things?	01:48
Imagery	but even though this "might" be a xorg problem, it was working earlier, and I havent updated xorg	01:48
Rede	like my wifi/nvidia drivers/etc	01:49
Snake	Rede: shouldnt have to reconfigure anything, they are just security pathcs	01:49
Snake	Rede: ehhh wifi MAYBE	01:49
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Imagery	it could have happened when I went from mainstream kernel to the K7 kernel	01:49
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Rede	even if my wifi installed automatically?	01:49
Rede	or is it just if i manually installed it?	01:49
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mart	hey. can anyone say where to find out more about dapper-backports?	01:50
Snake	Rede: Usually just if you used a program such as ndiswrapper, if your wifi was auto detected then id say your gonna be okay	01:50
mart	what's the policy for stuff going in?	01:50
Snake	mart: what about them?	01:50
Celeste	Snake, thank you for your help	01:50
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Imagery	Rede: you might have to install restricted modules	01:50
Snake	Celeste: no problem	01:50
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Celeste	last question: What download server gives me up to 400 KB / sec in Europe ?	01:50
joe__	yay \o. problem one overcome :)	01:50
Rede	awesome, im just feeling lazy and don't want to fight with my computer right now haha :D	01:50
joe__	i have internet :)	01:51
Snake	mart: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports?highlight=%28backports%29 perhaps?	01:51
crimsun_	mart: it has to build essentially unchanged from the current devel branch, not introduce API/ABI changes, not depend on newer build-dependencies.	01:51
Snake	joe__: congrads!	01:51
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Snake	Celeste: I dont know if thats answerable, as it depends on how far you are from the servers	01:51
yogi	Anyone know why 'kcmshell privacy' would behave differently from the kcontrol module of same name??	01:52
mart	crimsun_: "essentially unchanged from the current devel branch" == "must use same packaging scripts as 'edgy'" ?	01:52
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crimsun_	mart: within reason, yes.	01:52
mart	ok, makes sense.	01:52
joe__	thanks snake - by crikey has linux changed since i last tried it :) - i have no clue how to do anything now - where can i find a how-to install guide for new drivers and packages and such?	01:52
Snake	ubotu: tell joe about packages	01:52
crimsun_	use Adept to install new packages. You shouldn't have to mess with drivers.	01:53
xjeffx	would anyone care to help me watch embedded wmv files from sites like metacafe.com?	01:53
Snake	ehh	01:53
Snake	joe__: thats not a good factoid	01:53
Snake	ignore it	01:53
Snake	ubotu: tell xjeffx about wmv	01:53
Snake	joe__: well pretty much to install programs/ packages you could use adept (or add/remove programs) and for drivers, just depends what you need, ubotu is a great help as well, if you know what factoids to call	01:54
yogi	Riddell-awa:you home? ;-)	01:54
Snake	I think -awa means away ;D	01:54
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yogi	Snake:uh-oh... lol	01:55
LjL	i'm sure it can mean "home" in some language	01:55
Snake	god lots of rejoins and crap.... I wonder if freenode is playing with servers again	01:55
Snake	LjL: tru.dat	01:55
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joe__	well i tried to install mp3 support for example but it failed, the xvid update i tried also failed by a different method :S and the firefox browser package wouldn't install either even with root the commands failed	01:55
chess	does kbuntu come with a gui for samba	01:55
LjL	chess: yes	01:55
LjL	i'd rather avoid like the plague, but still	01:56
mart	crimsun_: oh, right. there's nothing there. I was expecting to see things like amarok there.	01:56
chess	how do i run it	01:56
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LjL	chess: it's under "Internet & Network" in the control panel	01:57
Snake	joe__: why did it fail?	01:57
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crimsun_	mart: considering nothing's really in Edgy yet...	01:57
Snake	hehe	01:57
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mart	crimsun_: no, it's just the fact that amarok packages have already been built.	01:58
crimsun_	mart: and again, considering they're not in Edgy...	01:58
chess	not there, do i apt-get install ?	01:58
LjL	chess: dunno, i think it's there by default, not absolutely sure though. where have you looked, in System Settings? if so, look in the actual control panel instead	01:58
LjL	chess: (you can start it by running "kcontrol" if you don't have it in your panel)	01:59
Snake	chess: check kcontrol	01:59
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chess	ty bud	01:59
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mart	right, so they don't just need to build in edgy, but actually _be_ in edgy. that's different :)	01:59
kuzmaster	do i need to put anytihng in terminal after changing my boot.lst?	01:59
joe__	different reasons in each case - the firefox one for instance gave a error with privilages when runniing the script	01:59
LjL	kuzmaster: no	02:00
Snake	joe__: what script?	02:00
kuzmaster	ok	02:00
kuzmaster	thanx	02:00
kuzmaster	!mount	02:00
ubotu	rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f	02:00
joe__	installnewfirefox.sh	02:00
kuzmaster	!fat	02:00
ubotu	Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kuzmaster	02:00
Snake	joe__: for firefox you can just type "sudo apt-get install firefox" in a terminal, or open up adept and search/install firefox	02:00
LjL	!msg the bot	02:00
ubotu	Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage	02:00
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joe__	so as i've downloaded the package already i need to use adept i can't just run the install script?	02:01
crimsun_	mart: none of us who can upload to -backports are terribly eager to; we have lots of stuff flowing into -updates; there's planning for the dev conference in Paris; and well, it's the weekend.	02:01
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joe__	or adept runs the script??	02:01
mart	crimsun_: fine, I can use the packages on kubuntu.org.	02:02
crimsun_	mart: yep	02:02
Snake	joe__: you dont need to download anything from any websites or anything. Do this for me, click the kmenu, click add/remove programs, type firefox in the box, then set it to Any Suite and check Unsupported. Volia.	02:02
kuzmaster	can somone please tell me how to mount a fat32 drive	02:03
kuzmaster	it is in storage media, but its un-mounterd there	02:03
neoncode	How do you get drop-shadows with kWin without Xgl?	02:03
Snake	joe__: easy eh???	02:04
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LjL	!ntfs	02:04
ubotu	to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>	02:04
LjL	think it also covers FAT, despite the name	02:04
kuzmaster	ok	02:04
kuzmaster	thanxs	02:04
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goldenear	neoncode: with xcompose I guess, but I can't find how to do it	02:05
chess	ty guys vmuch	02:05
Snake	chess: np	02:05
joe__	yup got it - crikey thats easy =) - but it's grayed out and won't select, how do i overcome that	02:05
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Snake	grayed out..	02:05
Snake	hm	02:06
joe__	yup - unselectable	02:06
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Snake	hang on	02:06
Snake	joe__: wow thats weird... hmm	02:06
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Snake	joe__: did it have you put in your password when you started it?	02:07
MasterEvilAce	anyone have experience with REALVNC?	02:07
Snake	No, sorry	02:08
joe__	yeh - i'll try restart as i had adept open already via system/adept and it's the same app right - could have messed it up	02:08
Snake	joe__: yes that will mess it up, only one program can lock in the /var/lib/dpkg/lock	02:09
Snake	joe__: and the add/remove programs thing is just a "dummed down" front end for new comers, its easier than the full adept program	02:09
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joe__	drat - still grayed-out	02:10
Snake	0.o	02:10
Snake	no idea then :(	02:10
Snake	joe__: all I can suggest is perhaps restart the system and try again.. :(	02:11
joe__	also at the bottom it says 937 installed - 937 available does that mean i can't install any new packages?	02:11
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Snake	joe__: check this out	02:12
Snake	joe__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuAddingRepositoriesHowto	02:12
Snake	Then try to get firefox	02:13
joe__	doh!!! i just ran the normal adept and it says it's installed?	02:13
joe__	i guess i've messed it up - with trying to do it with the shell commands	02:14
Snake	uh oh	02:14
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Snake	joe__: For future refrence, there are 20000 programs in those repos, there will hardly ever be a time when you need to go to a site and install it "windows style"	02:14
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Snake	joe__: try this, open a terminal, and sudo apt-get remove firefox, then try to reinstall using add/remove	02:15
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joe__	will do - thx for teh help :)	02:16
Imagery	btw, I have another issue though. whenever the kernel update script updates menu.lst (for instance when (un)installing kernels, it sets "root (hd1,0)", but (hd0,0) is actually correct. so I have to change that each time	02:17
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kuzmaster	how do i set vlc media play for the defult for all video files?	02:21
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Snake	kuzmaster: open konqueror go to settings, configure konquror, then file associations	02:22
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Snake	kuzmaster: then select your vid formats, and move VLC up the list	02:22
kuzmaster	ok, thnax	02:23
vincent__	hi, what do you use to retrieve podcasts under kde ?	02:23
Snake	vincent__: Amarok can do that	02:24
vincent__	no opml support	02:24
Snake	:(	02:24
vincent__	so with 76 feeds...	02:24
Snake	Hmm... well thats what I use, I dont really know of any others :-/	02:24
Snake	sorry man	02:24
vincent__	because ipodder and castpodder are a pain	02:24
vincent__	too much utf8 errors	02:24
Snake	vincent__: podracer perhaps?	02:25
vincent__	Snake: I give it a try	02:27
vincent__	seems more reliable	02:27
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Snake	:)	02:27
vincent__	castpodder drove me creazy	02:27
jinho326	hi how do I setup my printer in kubuntu?	02:27
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haider	jinho326: proberly in systemsettings -> printer	02:29
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jinho326	funnything is I dont see it	02:30
jinho326	nm	02:31
jinho326	im an idiot	02:31
Healot	you are?	02:31
jinho326	yep	02:32
jinho326	a bit fat one	02:32
jinho326	thanks though	02:32
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newuserAK	i have a toshiba satellite 1105 laptop (4 years old) and am having trouble setting up the wifi card. when i check KInfoCenter, it says "No PCMCIA controller detected."	02:37
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newuserAK	i think this is my problem, and is there any way to fix this?	02:37
Healot	!hardware	02:39
ubotu	it has been said that hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	02:39
Healot	newuserAK: take a look at that HCL	02:39
FearMoth	can anyone recommend a good ftp client for kde?	02:41
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Healot	newuserAK: all regarding Toshiba preconfigured portable computers	02:42
Healot	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba	02:42
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joe__	kubuntu has no build in support for mp3s it seems? - what the easiest way to enable mp3s ?	02:53
joe__	if i install lame - will that be enough	02:54
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pboilar	Hi !	02:55
pboilar	I'm looking for ATI Driver for a All-In-Wonder 7500	02:55
Healot	!mp3	02:55
ubotu	somebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	02:55
pboilar	somebody can help me !	02:55
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Healot	9200 or lower is supported by the "ati" driver	02:55
Healot	!ati	02:55
ubotu	http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide	02:55
[Nige]	anyone having luck with the big desktop with ATI?	02:56
pboilar	Everywhere I looking is write that Kubuntu Dapper support ATI but only 8500 and more	02:56
pboilar	If I read DivX or ScreenSaver with OpenGL everything is slow...	02:57
Healot	pboilar: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again	02:57
[Nige]	i am guessing your not running the driver then, but the opensource mesa one	02:57
Healot	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards >>	02:58
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bogo	has anyone here installed Kubuntu 6.06 via the alternative CD ?	02:59
Healot	yes... bogo	02:59
pboilar	is write in comment columns "GRUB hangs if tv is connected(!)"	02:59
bogo	I've just installed it now and it didn't ask me to create a user	03:00
pboilar	It's better for UBuntu to install right driver if i connect and open TV !	03:00
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bogo	it has boot up ok and now I'm at the login screen but can't log in	03:00
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LeeJunFan	bogo: did you do server install?	03:01
bogo	no	03:01
Healot	he said alternate Cd...	03:01
LeeJunFan	Healot: right, which is where you can do a server install from.	03:01
bogo	I chose the 1st option, which was not server	03:01
bogo	and by the way, I'm at the graphical login (KDM), which doesn't come with the 'server' option	03:02
Healot	yes, that's right bogo	03:02
LeeJunFan	bogo: owell, trying to figure out why at this point isn't as important as getting you logged in :)	03:02
bogo	is there any magic built-in user??	03:03
bogo	I mean, why wouldn't it ask me for a user during install? I actually chose this CD so I could have more control over the installation	03:04
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LeeJunFan	bogo: no, you can log in to a failsafe kernel when grub starts up at reboot hit esc.	03:04
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LeeJunFan	bogo: I dunno, normally that doesn't happen unless you do the advanced install and accidentally skip that part.	03:05
bogo	hit ESC at the menu or after selecting one of the kernels?	03:05
LeeJunFan	bogo: well if you get the list you don't need to hit esc.	03:06
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LeeJunFan	bogo: on systems that don't dual boot you normally don't get a menu list of kernels unless you hit esc first.	03:06
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bogo	oh, I see. Now I'm at the Grub menu, should I select the 'recovery mode' ?	03:07
[Nige]	I am back. I can get the big desktop screens to sort of work, the 1st screen is okay, but I cant get over to the 2nd screen	03:07
[Nige]	it seems to be untouchable	03:07
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LeeJunFan	bogo: yeah, that should put you into single mode.	03:07
LeeJunFan	bogo: which means you'll be operating as root.	03:08
LeeJunFan	bogo: so then you can create a user with useradd -m -s /bin/bash [username] , and set the password for them as well. Probably also want to add them to default groups.	03:08
LeeJunFan	bogo: with gpasswd	03:08
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bogo	what's the '-m' parameter for?	03:09
LeeJunFan	bogo: this is the list of groups: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin	03:09
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LeeJunFan	bogo: -m tells useradd to copy from /etc/skel to the new home dir, things like bashrc and bash_profile.	03:09
bogo	oh ok	03:09
bogo	LeeJunFan: so I do: gpasswd -a user group1 group2 group3 .... ?	03:11
LeeJunFan	bogo: actually I think it may not take multiple groups.	03:11
LeeJunFan	bogo: if you haven't done it already useradd -G [group1,group2,etc...] should set them up as well.	03:12
LeeJunFan	bogo: yeah, gpasswd manpage doesn't look like multiple groups will work.	03:12
bogo	is there any difference between adm and admin groups ?	03:13
bogo	it complained that there is no admin group	03:13
Healot	why don't ubuntu use the "wheel" group instead?	03:14
LeeJunFan	bogo: now this is getting more interesting by the minute.	03:14
LeeJunFan	bogo: admin is used by sudo setup.	03:14
bogo	oh, so it's a lot worse than I thought	03:14
LeeJunFan	bogo: if you are in grp admin you are able to run sudo.	03:14
LeeJunFan	bogo: yeah, it seems that because it missed setting up the default user it also didn't setup the admin group or sudo permissions stuff.	03:15
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Healot	bogo: but the user setup you missed right	03:15
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bogo	oh well, I guess I'll try again tomorrow. I thoght: let me quickly install Kubuntu and go to bed. Foolish me	03:16
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LeeJunFan	bogo: that's why, because you expected it to be quick and easy, sure fire way to break anything.	03:17
bogo	hehe	03:17
bogo	should have gotten the "User Friendly" version	03:17
LeeJunFan	bogo: I've never had that happen before, and I've done quite a few installs. But I have heard of it happening once or twice before.	03:17
joe__	do i have to use xine for mp3 - there's no addon for amorak?	03:18
Healot	!mp3	03:18
ubotu	I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	03:18
Healot	!info libextra-codecs	03:18
crimsun_	(libxine-extracodecs)	03:19
Healot	!info libxine-extracodecs	03:19
ubotu	libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB	03:19
bogo	LeeJunFan: ok then, thanks for the help. Maybe in the morning my brain will be better	03:19
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joe__	ok - then but if i use xine packages it will only work in konquerer or a application that supports it - not amarok?	03:21
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kuzmaster	where do the superkaramba themes get saved to?	03:22
kuzmaster	when you download them via the program	03:22
joe__	ah cool - amorak can use xine :) - answered my own question :P	03:23
inc\|freaky	hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(	03:24
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joe__	libxine-extracodecs says BREAK (install) - what does this mean?	03:28
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geneo91	it means it will break your install	03:29
JavaByte	drat! - it's a clean install so what can i do - are there any alternatives	03:30
geneo91	mplayer	03:30
JavaByte	or does i just mean it's unsupported?	03:30
geneo91	no	03:31
JavaByte	it's serious then?	03:31
geneo91	yes	03:31
JavaByte	so mplayer - any good?	03:31
geneo91	best thing there is for linux media player	03:31
JavaByte	i quiet like amorak too :( - i guess i might get it fixed later though	03:32
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kwtm	How do I turn off auto-spellchecking in KMail, please?	03:33
geneo91	learn how to spell	03:33
ube	hey guys. is there an osx channel?	03:33
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crimsun_	##osx? No clue.	03:34
ube	i tried that and #osx	03:34
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ube	ah found it	03:34
PyroMithrandir	why do some channels start with # and some start with ##?	03:34
inc\|freaky	hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(	03:34
ube	#macosx	03:35
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geneo91	##macosx	03:35
crimsun_	PyroMithrandir: possible official trademark concerns	03:35
Healot	## for unregistered user if the # channel is locked?	03:35
geneo91	i dunno what happened to freenode but i cant login as my real nick anymore	03:37
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n_n_p	that number appears to be the number i dial	03:38
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th0m4s	poningru: ping	03:41
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tyce	would debian mt package work on ubuntu	03:42
crimsun_	"mt"?	03:42
crimsun_	as in libqt3-mt?	03:42
geneo91	what wrong with ubtuntu mt package	03:43
tyce	I don't see lt listed	03:43
Healot	geneo91: what's wrong with mt packages	03:43
geneo91	it maybe included in another package	03:43
Healot	tyce: try to install such package first, see if any problem comes up?	03:44
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tyce	I will try libqt3-mt	03:45
Healot	btw	03:45
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Healot	Ubuntu has libqt3-mt package	03:45
h3sp4wn	Linux SCSI tape driver aware magnetic tape control (mt) is what what you need ?	03:46
geneo91	is that for tape drive	03:46
Healot	damn	03:47
Healot	why didn't you tell abotu that in the first place	03:47
poningru	arr?	03:47
Healot	Tape drive	03:47
poningru	th0m4s: pong	03:47
tyce	yes I am trying to get my EXABYTE Tape drive working	03:48
geneo91	hehe i left mine out this round tape drives are kinda obsoleite	03:48
DaSkreech	erov: Hi	03:49
erov	hi	03:49
h3sp4wn	Not really tape drives are the only sensible way of backing up massive amounts of data	03:49
geneo91	for what they cost and as slow as they are usb backup is much better	03:49
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h3sp4wn	Storage Tek can restore at 20mb per second yes its expensive but its incomparible	03:50
Healot	geneo91: Tape is used for enterprise.. USB HDDs are lame	03:50
DaSkreech	erov: You can make sudo not ask for a password by editing /etc/sudoers/	03:50
geneo91	man i tell you i dont think mine backup would fit on one tape	03:51
Healot	it would fit	03:51
geneo91	320 gb	03:51
Healot	20meters tape could back up like 400GB of data	03:52
JavaByte	whats a dummy package?	03:52
Healot	metapackage JavaByte?	03:52
Healot	dummy package is used for maintainance of obsolete/old packages, I think	03:54
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erov	ok, thanks	03:55
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JavaByte	ah right - well thats another idea down the pan anyhow - mplayer is BREAK (install) too	03:55
geneo91	wait maybe you got wrong arch	03:56
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JavaByte	maybe i should just convert 24gb of mp3s to ogg - looks like the only way to get them to play without BREAK (install)	03:57
geneo91	na use xmms	03:57
arafat	rock on!	03:58
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geneo91	i thought you were looking to play videos	03:59
JavaByte	xmp-common is the main package for that is it?	03:59
geneo91	xmms	03:59
geneo91	should be already installed	04:00
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JavaByte	ah yeh but it doesn't work either tried 24 different .avi files and none work - will play mpeg though	04:01
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geneo91	you need xmms-smpeg	04:01
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JavaByte	uavailable anyhow	04:02
geneo91	then you dont have all repos enabled	04:02
JavaByte	greyed out in add/remove programs and in Adept itself it says BREAK (install)	04:02
geneo91	that stupid thing is worthless	04:03
JavaByte	is that the universe - multiverse thing - i've done that	04:03
Healot	JavaByte: donate your /etc/apt/sources.list file? will you?	04:03
Healot	to pastebin of course	04:04
geneo91	well use apt-get then	04:04
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kuzmaster	!limewire	04:04
ubotu	first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.	04:04
kuzmaster	!frostwire	04:04
ubotu	frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire	04:04
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geneo91	nicotine is good also	04:05
jamie	causes cancer though	04:05
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geneo91	p2p	04:05
geneo91	causes jail	04:05
Healot	only in America/EU	04:06
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JavaByte	wheres paste bin?	04:06
jamie	http://www.pastebin.coom	04:06
jamie	oops	04:06
Healot	!paste	04:06
ubotu	Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.	04:06
jamie	http://www.pastebin.com	04:06
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Healot	damn Holland's domain name	04:07
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jamie	my internet is painfully slow tonight (road runner, but feeling more like dial up tonight). Last time I have a problem, the technician had some kind of program on his laptop that analyzed the connection, checked my "levels" and interference	04:08
DaSkreech	!backports	04:08
ubotu	[backports] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports	04:08
jamie	is there a program like that I can get for my linux box for free?	04:08
Healot	jamie: be a Linux Professional? or join FSF :)	04:09
JavaByte	http://pastebin.com/714199	04:09
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nate_	what up sons	04:13
nate_	kubuntu is coo	04:13
Healot	JavaByte: if you a gracious, replace the content of you /etc/apt/sources.list file with this	04:14
nate_	hello is anyone there???	04:14
Healot	http://pastebin.com/714202	04:14
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Healot	not one of your sons	04:14
kuzmaster	is it possible to hide the icon to my flash drive on my deskto	04:14
nate_	hehe i was just kiddin	04:14
kuzmaster	desktop**	04:14
kuzmaster	because i have created another shortcut to it in storage devices, with a better icon	04:14
Healot	nate_: you have questions ? though somebody glad to answer	04:15
kuzmaster	so i want to keep the new icon, and get rid of the old	04:15
jamie_	ah, internet dropped off. Anyway, trying to find a program to perform diagnostics on my cable connection	04:15
Healot	kuzmaster: yes if you rename it with a "." in front of the filename	04:15
kuzmaster	k, thanx	04:15
jamie_	anyone heard of such a thing?	04:15
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kuzmaster	how do i rename it	04:16
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Healot	jamie: no jamie... well yes... contact your ISP if any of those problem occurs?	04:16
kuzmaster	theres no rename option in the contect menu	04:16
JavaByte	totally of topic anyone russian here by any chance know where i can get an English translation of dusk watch?	04:16
Healot	kuzmaster: cd to your Desktop folder	04:16
kuzmaster	ok	04:16
Healot	mv <the original file> .<the original file>	04:16
kuzmaster	helot, thanx	04:17
Healot	e.g. mv "painintheass" ".painintheass"	04:17
Healot	see the dot?	04:17
kuzmaster	yeah	04:17
Healot	!ru	04:17
ubotu	Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help	04:17
JavaByte	ok - so why does my list have 36 lines - it's messed up?	04:17
Healot	no/// JavaByte ALOT of comments though	04:18
Healot	commented lines do not affect the file use... just for information	04:18
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Healot	JavaByte: do you replace your file with my example yet?	04:19
kuzmaster	healot, do i put the quotations marks in?	04:19
Healot	no	04:19
kuzmaster	ok	04:19
Healot	i used it to separate the example input	04:19
Healot	for clarity they say	04:19
kuzmaster	healot, so it would be... mc SLAX .SLAX	04:20
kuzmaster	healot, to change SLAX, to .SLAX	04:20
Healot	mv	04:20
Healot	not mc :)	04:20
kuzmaster	yeah, i ment that	04:20
kuzmaster	lol	04:20
Healot	yeah like that kuzmaster	04:21
Healot	by default Konq won't list a hidden file	04:21
Healot	so you won't see file with . in front of the filename	04:21
geneo91	i will if you tell to	04:22
geneo91	under view just check show hidden	04:23
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kuzmaster	healot, its not working, ill show you want i want to do	04:24
Healot	the icon shows...	04:24
kuzmaster	with a screen shot	04:24
kuzmaster	http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5348/desktop36ko.jpg	04:25
kuzmaster	thats what i want to do	04:25
kuzmaster	healot, understand?	04:26
Healot	it's the HAL thing'	04:26
JavaByte	is it safe to try libk3b2-mp3 to see if that will install (for mp3 support)	04:26
kuzmaster	ok......	04:26
Healot	you can either disable HAL	04:26
nate_	i have amd64 and i come across errors when installing the opera package. does ./configure show me the extra files i need to get to make it work??	04:26
kuzmaster	healot, is there another way?	04:27
Healot	it will popup volume icons automatically, kuzmaster	04:27
kuzmaster	ok, ill do that	04:27
kuzmaster	how?	04:27
Healot	not recommended to disable HAL...	04:27
kuzmaster	why?	04:27
DaSkreech	Hobbler!	04:27
Healot	jsut let it be? easier right?	04:27
kuzmaster	ummm, i would prefer it off, i think	04:27
kuzmaster	i can turn it back on cant i	04:27
kuzmaster	!HAL	04:28
ubotu	HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.	04:28
Healot	btw, disabling HAL would disable the ability to mount volume!	04:28
kuzmaster	grunts	04:28
Healot	:)	04:28
Healot	oh	04:28
Healot	you can remove your current user from the HAL group	04:29
kuzmaster	yes, that sounds good	04:29
kuzmaster	i think	04:29
JavaByte	juk is also grayed out?? another idea gone	04:29
Healot	show me your /etc/passwd /etc/group files >> kuzmaster	04:29
kuzmaster	ok	04:29
kuzmaster	in pastebin?	04:29
Healot	JavaByte: have you update the list with my example? and Fetch+update the list?	04:30
Healot	kuzmaster: sure	04:30
Healot	pastebin	04:30
nate_	lol	04:30
Healot	!us	04:30
ubotu	NB The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)	04:30
Healot	!gb	04:30
ubotu	Healot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	04:30
Healot	nothing for GB	04:31
kuzmaster	heres my psswrd thing http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714223	04:31
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JavaByte	Healot: no as you said not to yet - i just thought i'd try it	04:31
inc\|freaky	hi all, can someone tell me how to setup a USB printer like Epson Stylus Photo R240 in linux?	04:31
Healot	and /etc/group to...	04:32
Healot	kuzmaster: which is your current user ?	04:32
kuzmaster	and my group thing http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714226	04:32
kuzmaster	im am josh	04:32
kuzmaster	thats the only use i have put on	04:32
Healot	ok, /etc/group please josh	04:32
kuzmaster	http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714226	04:33
geneo91	anyone have any idea why azureus is sucking so much memory and not giving it back	04:33
kuzmaster	healot, got them?	04:33
Healot	admin:x:111:josh << remove "josh" from this group	04:34
Healot	but that will make you lose the sudo power, josh	04:34
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kuzmaster	?, so i wont be able to use sudo?	04:34
Healot	plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,josh << remove "josh" from this one actually	04:34
Healot	then you won't be a plugdev user no more	04:34
kuzmaster	so i make it.... plugdev:x:46:haldaemon	04:35
Healot	then no more automatic mounter	04:35
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Healot	yes, from plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,josh to plugdev:x:46:haldaemon	04:35
kuzmaster	dose that mean that i have to automaticly mount them?	04:35
kuzmaster	manually, i mean	04:35
JavaByte	Healot: access denied to file sources.list.part	04:36
Healot	yup, since you are no longer in PLugdev group	04:36
kuzmaster	ok	04:36
Healot	JavaByte: prepend sudo	04:36
Healot	sudo <command> /etc/apt/sources.list	04:36
Healot	cdrom:x:24:haldaemon,josh	04:36
Healot	floppy:x:25:haldaemon,josh	04:36
Healot	and from those tooo...	04:36
kuzmaster	hmmmmph	04:37
kuzmaster	do i have to do it to all of those	04:37
geneo91	Hobbsee: when you kicked me did you screw up my entire freenode account	04:37
Healot	if you like to manually mount volume, josh	04:37
Hobbsee	geneo91: no. when did i kick you? and what for?	04:37
Healot	I mean ALL type of disk...	04:37
geneo91	for rm -r /	04:37
kuzmaster	btw, i destroyed my floppy drive with a sledge hammer, so.... yeah, no more floppy drive	04:37
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Healot	well, do that then, josh	04:38
kuzmaster	ok	04:38
Healot	but remember you need to mount disk/volume manually, josh	04:38
geneo91	Hobbsee: i cant login to freenode with my old nick anymore	04:39
Healot	just the three entry "plugdev" "cdrom" "floppy" group entries...	04:39
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Healot	leave the rest though	04:39
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kuzmaster	ok, done, do i need to re-start kde or put something into terminal now?	04:40
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Hobbsee	geneo91: what was the old nick?	04:40
JavaByte	Healot: so i open a command window in kate with the modified file open and use sudo to write the file with some command?	04:40
Mark1412	can anyone help me with amaroK	04:40
geneo91	geneo93	04:40
Hobbsee	geneo91: and what did youget banned for?	04:40
Healot	kuzmaster: logoff and log in back	04:40
DaSkreech	!helpme	04:40
kuzmaster	k	04:40
ubotu	If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)	04:40
DaSkreech	!someone	04:40
ubotu	A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>	04:40
geneo91	Hobbsee: rm -r /	04:40
Healot	yes,,, JAva because most of the files in /etc are own by root	04:40
Hobbsee	geneo91: that was a remove, not a ban...	04:40
thompa	is there a program that will copy my music cds easily so I can listen, burn etc.?	04:40
Hobbsee	geneo91: what error do they give for you not being able to connect?	04:40
Mark1412	how do you upload music to your ipod using amaroK	04:40
Healot	sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list >> JavaByte, like that, right thurr	04:41
thompa	will amarok do that	04:41
Mark1412	i heard it will	04:41
geneo91	it just transfers to different nick Hobbsee	04:41
JavaByte	Healot: cool - linux make me feel os thick sometimes :P	04:41
thompa	my cds are all scratched up I want to copy them like itunes	04:41
geneo91	Hobbsee: its like i'm still loged in	04:42
Hobbsee	geneo91: is that nick registered at all?	04:42
Healot	does anybody hate HAL?	04:42
geneo91	yes it was	04:42
Hobbsee	geneo91: ghost it	04:43
Hobbsee	!ghost	04:43
JavaByte	<--- never knew what sudo did till 2006-06-17@3:43am	04:43
ubotu	from memory, ghost is type /msg nickserv GHOST <name> <password>	04:43
Healot	Java, nothing comes easy	04:43
thompa	when i put a cd in , i have extract and encode, but its audicreator	04:43
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thompa	maybe there is an amarok channel	04:44
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geneo91	Hobbsee: thanks	04:44
Hobbsee	geneo91: not a problem, did it work?	04:44
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geneo91	didn't try yet	04:45
Healot	geneo91: since when you start joining IRC?	04:45
geneo91	oh a few years ago	04:45
Healot	okay	04:45
Healot	familiar with nickserv or its command?	04:45
geneo91	onlky to indentify	04:46
Healot	oh	04:46
DaSkreech	thompa: Konquror will do that	04:47
DaSkreech	Mark1412: It should have a devices tab	04:47
JavaByte	YAY \o, i worked SUDO !!!!	04:48
geneo91	i know there was something going on with freenode the other day saying to use chat.freenode instead of irc.freenode	04:48
geneo91	some spam bot or something	04:48
Healot	JavaByte: now I guess you can update the sources.list file	04:48
JavaByte	done :)	04:49
thompa	DaSkreech: it will? ok ill try that	04:49
Hobbsee	geneo91: yeah, there are yet more spammers on the network	04:49
Hobbsee	geneo91: try it now, if you want - just use the syntax in !ghost	04:50
DaSkreech	thompa: type audiocd:/ in the address bar	04:50
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DaSkreech	Tell me what you get :-)	04:50
geneo91	NickServ: (notice) [geneo93] has been killed	04:50
geneo93	geneo91: works now	04:50
Hobbsee	geneo91: yeah	04:50
Hobbsee	so just /nick geneo93	04:50
kuzmaster	how do i delete a file as root?	04:50
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thompa	DaSkreech: I got cds all over the place, getting damaged and stuff and just want to have them safe	04:50
Hobbsee	kuzmaster: sudo rm filename, but be careful with it	04:51
kuzmaster	ok, thnax	04:51
Hobbsee	geneo93: there you go :)	04:51
thompa	someone in amarok channel said i should try grip	04:51
Healot	hey josh, how's the HAL thing going?	04:51
geneo93	well i dunno why it didn't disconnect me for 3 days	04:52
DaSkreech	thompa: Well if you have a DVD burner or Hard drive space i would suggest copying the FLAC folder in Konqueror	04:52
kuzmaster	is deleting a file the same as a folder?	04:52
Healot	kuzmaster: try rm <a directory>	04:53
Healot	see what you'll got	04:53
kuzmaster	ok	04:53
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Healot	e.g. rm etc	04:53
kuzmaster	Healot, i got this...rm: cannot remove `Backups': Is a directory	04:53
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Healot	yea	04:53
Healot	different isn't it?	04:54
kuzmaster	yesss.....	04:54
Healot	man rmdir >> kuzmaster	04:54
kuzmaster	thanx	04:54
Healot	by the way you can use rm -rf to remove directories and files resursively	04:54
kuzmaster	ok	04:54
JavaByte	there's upgrade now should i?	04:55
Healot	JavaByte: up to you	04:55
kuzmaster	is it possible to change the icon for devices that are automaticly mounter?	04:55
inc\|freaky	hi all - can someone help me getting cpu frequency to work? im on a Amilo M 1437G with a centrino 2ghz cpu which keeps running at 800mhz and powernowd starts with the error: frequencyscaling not supported	04:55
kuzmaster	mounted**	04:55
Healot	inc\|freaky: isntall 686 kernel instead	04:55
Healot	linux-686	04:56
thompa	DaSkreech: ok thanks,	04:56
inc\|freaky	im using 686 kernel and tried 386 too	04:56
thompa	whats the flak folder?	04:56
thompa	or flac	04:56
Healot	inc\|freaky: CPU is a P4 Centrino?	04:56
geneo93	!flac	04:56
DaSkreech	You typed in audiocd:/	04:56
ubotu	geneo93: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	04:56
DaSkreech	?	04:56
inc\|freaky	Healot: yea	04:56
thompa	just a sce	04:56
DaSkreech	!restricted	04:57
ubotu	rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.	04:57
DaSkreech	!freeformats	04:57
ubotu	There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats	04:57
geneo93	flac is mp3 type lossless though	04:57
DaSkreech	Ah there we go :)	04:57
DaSkreech	That last link	04:57
thompa	i typed audiocd:/ got error	04:57
thompa	but audio cd is on desktop	04:58
kuzmaster	is it possible to change the icon for devices that are automaticly mounted?	04:58
thompa	its media:/hdd	04:58
DaSkreech	thompa: You have a Cd in the tray I take it? :-)	04:58
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thompa	i just clicked on it and it opens so in Konqueror	04:59
Healot	inc\|freaky: is the SpeedStep enabled in BIOS?	04:59
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[Evil] [Ernie]	i'm wondering if anyone can help me get on my home network	04:59
inc\|freaky	i cant enable or disable it in the BIOS, in windows it works fine	04:59
thompa	DaSkreech: right i see the flac folder	04:59
inc\|freaky	@ Healot	04:59
[Evil] [Ernie]	i know i need samba... but i cant figure out how to get it to work >.>	04:59
Healot	that's mean, it's automatic... nvm	04:59
[Evil] [Ernie]	even after reading the wiki	04:59
DaSkreech	Right if you jsut drag that to somewhere you have just ripped the CD in FLAC :0	05:00
Healot	!hardware	05:00
ubotu	hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	05:00
DaSkreech	:-)	05:00
DaSkreech	Drag the MP3 folder you rip it in MP3	05:00
inc\|freaky	Healot: it isnt it just doesnt scale up i keep running at 800mhz	05:00
DaSkreech	Etc for ogg, wav	05:00
thompa	DaSkreech: and can i play those and burn to cd later when my original is broke	05:00
thompa	ok	05:00
DaSkreech	thompa: yup yup yup	05:00
thompa	thanks	05:01
thompa	im not new to linux, but cleaning house of cd mess	05:01
Healot	your portable computer manufacturer, inc\|freaky?	05:01
thompa	i got an ipod and dont even use it for music just files	05:01
DaSkreech	Dependent on your tastes you can burn those now and squirell away your originals or keep those somewhere safe (and doubly backed up) then burn them whenever	05:01
inc\|freaky	Healot: Fujitsu Siemens	05:01
JavaByte	ok thanks for the help Healot - i'm going for a reboot after the full update	05:01
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DaSkreech	thompa: Well If you listen to music a lot use the FLAC folder otherwise ogg is plenty good	05:02
erov	DaSkreech: what exactly should I do to sudoers	05:02
DaSkreech	erov: man sudoers	05:03
DaSkreech	erov: Then press /nopasswd	05:03
DaSkreech	and press enter	05:03
thompa	if each cd has a flac folder, i wonder if i need to create seperate album folders	05:03
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DaSkreech	thompa: erm.. I think you would	05:03
DaSkreech	It is a bit messy in that respect	05:03
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geneo93	i guess ubuntu dont support my dual xeon machine	05:04
Healot	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu >> inc\|freaky, but don't see anything about speedstep that wont scale	05:04
inc\|freaky	:((	05:04
thompa	DaSkreech: i was thinking amarok instead to copy, cause it organizes	05:04
DaSkreech	thompa: yeah That works	05:04
Cornellius	mmm amaroK	05:05
Cornellius	Such a wonderfull app.	05:05
DaSkreech	Though you can rip everything to one folder using drag and drop then organize it en masse with Amarok	05:05
DaSkreech	Well Amarok 1.4	05:05
DaSkreech	I don't know if you have that one	05:05
Healot	inc\|freaky: i don't if you can do this, if there is any way to disable SpeedStep...	05:05
thompa	that sounds good, that way i dont have to think	05:05
inc\|freaky	im havint the problem since a few months now and hoped that it will have been fixed when dapper was released but it wasnt	05:05
DaSkreech	Cornellius: Yup and I got brainz working too!!	05:05
Cornellius	Niiice	05:06
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inc\|freaky	my problem is, that i cant enable it and so it keeps running at only 800mhz	05:06
inc\|freaky	Healot: thx :)	05:06
Healot	inc\|freaky: same problem with Breezy?	05:06
inc\|freaky	i dont remember ;)	05:06
inc\|freaky	or betteR: i dont know	05:06
Healot	hehe	05:06
geneo93	inc\|freaky: are you upto date	05:06
inc\|freaky	i upgraded to dapper a few days after i upgraded ;D	05:06
inc\|freaky	geneo93: yes	05:06
geneo93	today	05:07
inc\|freaky	the first thing i do when booting into linux is looking for upgrades ;P	05:07
geneo93	i think yesterday was kernel update	05:07
Healot	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuAmiloM1437G?highlight=%28CPU%29%7C%28Scaling%29 >> read this	05:07
inc\|freaky	yea i have the newest kernel installed	05:07
inc\|freaky	i tried 386 and 686 both dont support cpu frequency scaling	05:08
inc\|freaky	:(	05:08
Healot	it should scale...	05:08
inc\|freaky	it doesnt :(	05:08
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inc\|freaky	when restarting powernowd it says; * CPU frequency scaling not supported	05:09
geneo93	maybe i dont need more	05:09
Healot	inc\|freaky: here say... do you have the liveCD?	05:09
Healot	try to boot from it, see if the CPU scale properly?	05:09
inc\|freaky	no :(	05:09
inc\|freaky	dont have it	05:10
Healot	well, get it then :)	05:10
Healot	you installed from alternate or liveCD?	05:10
inc\|freaky	alternate	05:10
Healot	btw, did you boot with the 686 kernel?	05:10
inc\|freaky	else i would have a live cd ;)	05:10
[Evil] [Ernie]	eh	05:11
inc\|freaky	Healot: yea i tried both	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	if i go to edit a conf file	05:11
Healot	i suggest you have the liveCD, to do the trouble shooting...	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	how do i become root to save the file?	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	i damn well forgot	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	..>	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	>.>	05:11
Hawkwind	[Evil] [Ernie] : sudo	05:11
Healot	sudo first... [Evil] [Ernie]	05:11
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[Evil] [Ernie]	sudo then the filename?	05:11
Healot	sudo -i	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	ah	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	thank you!	05:11
Healot	if you hate entering password all the time	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	without the -i it just said file wasnt there	05:11
[Evil] [Ernie]	hmm	05:11
inc\|freaky	ok but if it works with the livecd, how can i make it work on this installation?	05:11
Healot	inc\|freaky: isntall from the LiveCD then...	05:12
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inc\|freaky	i dont want to reinstall	05:12
Healot	my suggestion is that...	05:12
[Evil] [Ernie]	actually	05:12
[Evil] [Ernie]	it still says file isnt there	05:12
[Evil] [Ernie]	lol	05:12
inc\|freaky	:\	05:12
Healot	well, you wouldn;t know if it works or not right?	05:12
[Evil] [Ernie]	even though it is clearly shown on "ls" command	05:12
Healot	[Evil] [Ernie] : what file?	05:12
[Evil] [Ernie]	trying to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf	05:13
Healot	ls /etc/samba/smb.conf >> what's the result of that?	05:13
Hawkwind	sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf	05:13
inc\|freaky	Healot: ill download the livecd and try it ;)	05:14
[Evil] [Ernie]	ah	05:14
[Evil] [Ernie]	nevermind if you right click on a file and choose the Action menu	05:14
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[Evil] [Ernie]	it gives you the option to edit as root	05:14
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[Evil] [Ernie]	thank you for the cmds though i will keep them in mind if i need them in the future =o	05:14
Healot	inc\|freaky: if it taht won't work to... look up for BIOS update though...	05:15
inc\|freaky	ok	05:15
inc\|freaky	thankyou :)	05:15
Healot	how old is your portable computer?	05:15
inc\|freaky	i have it sice last christmas	05:15
Healot	like 6 months huh	05:15
inc\|freaky	yea but the model is out 2 more months or smth ;)	05:16
Healot	heh	05:16
Healot	early release?	05:17
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Healot	damn Japanese portable computers	05:18
Healot	nope no BIOS update for that pc	05:18
geneo93	chinese you mean	05:18
Healot	well the brand is Japanese, made in China i believe	05:19
geneo93	yeah	05:19
inc\|freaky	Healot: hm?	05:19
Healot	i wish I bought American brand PC	05:19
inc\|freaky	;p	05:20
Healot	well... American brand it is, but China made still	05:20
geneo93	Healot: none are made here though	05:20
Healot	I can see that	05:20
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geneo93	build your own is best way	05:20
Healot	yeah	05:21
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Healot	for desktop, but I am bad with portables	05:21
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zodo	Hi folks. I'm in the midst of troubleshooting slow transfer speeds over my internal network...and I've traced it back (with ethereal) to copious numbers of packets with incorrect checksums coming from my main machine. It uses a Marvell Lan interface on an ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe. Has anyone encountered this before/any tips? I only see this behavior under dapper.	05:21
Healot	bad frames?	05:21
Healot	!hardware	05:22
ubotu	hardware is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	05:22
inc\|freaky	i just ordered 10 kubuntu cds from shipit :D	05:22
neoncode	How do I change my kmenu Icon without changeing my entire icon theme?	05:22
Healot	lsmod for us, zodo...	05:22
Healot	paste the output at pastebin.com	05:23
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zodo	Alrighty. One sec.	05:23
Healot	zodo: using the latest stable Dapper?	05:23
zodo	Yep.	05:24
MasterEvilAce	Anyone use RealVNC? can't connect to my windows host	05:24
zodo	Ok, it's up.	05:24
thompa	DaSkreech: Hi, I want to ask, why not to copy ogg vorbis instad of flac?	05:24
erov	is it good to fill a partition full of /dev/zero before giving it away ? :p	05:24
Healot	MasterEvilAce: did you select RDPv5 protocol?	05:24
DaSkreech	thompa: ogg is what is called lossy compression	05:25
DaSkreech	FLAC is lossless	05:25
MasterEvilAce	Realot: where would i do that at?	05:25
Healot	the URL... zodo?	05:25
zodo	Oh, shoot, sorry.	05:25
DaSkreech	Which means that FLAC can truthfully be turned back into your original CD	05:25
zodo	Spaced. http://pastebin.com/714268	05:25
Healot	on the vnc client... you should see the Protocol listbox	05:25
inc\|freaky	which one is the liveCD? the desktop CD image?	05:25
zodo	I've never used pastebin.com, frankly. :)	05:25
Healot	inc\|freaky: yes the desktop iso	05:26
thompa	DaSkreech: great	05:26
inc\|freaky	awkay, thx :D	05:26
thompa	thanks again for the tips	05:26
DaSkreech	thompa: ogg is like MP3 in that it is small and useful but you will lose information so that your Original CD can never be replicated	05:26
Healot	sk98lin fo Marvell right	05:26
thompa	ok	05:26
Healot	zodo: from the list of HCL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards >> it doesn't indicate any problem	05:27
zodo	Yeah, that's the one.	05:27
MasterEvilAce	Healot: i don't see a protocol choice anywhere.. encryption and encoding is all i see	05:27
thompa	im just copying the flac folders, even overwrite is ok, then scan folder with amarok, seems to work fine	05:27
Healot	a built in?	05:27
Healot	RealVNC client right?	05:28
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DaSkreech	thompa: You can get close.. but not quite your CD	05:28
DaSkreech	Can I get a visual network tool?	05:28
MasterEvilAce	downloaded RealVNC directly from their site, and i run vncviewer	05:28
MasterEvilAce	stuff comes up and it says Aborted	05:28
MasterEvilAce	after i try to connect	05:28
Healot	MasterEvilAce: try to use the vnc client taht comes with ubuntu?	05:29
MasterEvilAce	will that connect to RealVNC?	05:29
Healot	any VNC client would do, but I suggest the one on ubuntu repos	05:29
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Healot	just choose one...	05:30
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Healot	!info x11vnc	05:32
ubotu	x11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-5 (dapper), Packaged size: 318 kB, Installed size: 820 kB	05:32
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kuzmaster	theres no one on the grub channel, so ill ask here	05:53
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kuzmaster	how do i put windows xp pro in my grub list	05:53
kuzmaster	does anyone know how?	05:54
kuzmaster	hmmmmmph	05:54
DaSkreech	kuzmaster: I think that's in the FAQ on the Grub site	05:55
DaSkreech	.o0(Could be wrong though)	05:55
kuzmaster	!grub	05:55
ubotu	http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting	05:55
Hawkwind	kuzmaster: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194216	05:55
kuzmaster	thanx	05:55
Hawkwind	kuzmaster: First hit on google :P	05:55
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kuzmaster	lol	05:55
kuzmaster	i was just about to look at my search there	05:56
kuzmaster	!limewire	05:56
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ubotu	first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.	05:56
geneo93	Hawkwind still around heh	05:56
Hawkwind	kuzmaster: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/19644-how-add-windows-2k-xp-grub.html	05:56
Hawkwind	kuzmaster: That one seems better	05:56
Hawkwind	geneo93: I'm here to stay :)	05:57
geneo93	cool	05:57
geneo93	are you learning debs yet	05:57
kuzmaster	ok thanx, how do u run runlime.sh, how it says in !limewire	05:57
geneo93	sh runline.sh	05:58
kuzmaster	k, thanx	05:58
Hawkwind	geneo93: I've built a couple so far. I built xchat-2.6.4 the day it was released and it seems it's still not available anywhere for Kubuntu	05:59
geneo93	really	05:59
geneo93	even in debian testing	06:00
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Hawkwind	geneo93: It might be available for Kubuntu now. Haven't looked in the past 2 days or so	06:00
geneo93	Hawkwind still haven't got mdk to work with xorg 7.1 even with nv driver	06:01
Hawkwind	I still haven't switched this box over from Mandriva yet. But it's coming soon	06:03
geneo93	well ubuntu doesn't support this dual xeon box to well	06:04
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rodrigo	hi	06:06
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kuzmaster	can some please have a look at my menu.lst, and tell me how to put windows xp into there. i have followed numerous guide on the internet, and none of then have worked	06:18
kuzmaster	heres my menu.lst http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714314	06:20
kuzmaster	can somone please look at at and tell me what im doing wrong	06:20
kuzmaster	pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease	06:20
kuzmaster	please	06:21
kuzmaster	anyone?	06:21
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kuzmaster	and one at all?	06:23
kuzmaster	can some please have a look at my menu.lst, and tell me how to put windows xp into there. i have followed numerous guide on the internet, and none of then have worked	06:23
kuzmaster	heres my menu.lst http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714314	06:23
kuzmaster	can somone please look at at and tell me what im doing wrong	06:23
kuzmaster	ingmar^_, can you help me?	06:23
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kuzmaster	gapzzu, can you help me?	06:26
crimsun_	kuzmaster: it's completely unclear as to what drive and partition actually contains Windows	06:26
gapzzu	hola saludos	06:26
kuzmaster	ok	06:27
kuzmaster	my master contains windows	06:27
crimsun_	kuzmaster: that's unclear	06:28
crimsun_	primary master? secondary/tertiary/.../ master?	06:28
gapzzu	hola no hablas espanol	06:28
kuzmaster	ummmm, dont no	06:28
crimsun_	gapzzu: #kubuntu-es	06:28
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kuzmaster	i might a a pic some where	06:28
kuzmaster	hang no	06:28
kuzmaster	on	06:28
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kuzmaster	yeah i do, ill just upload it	06:29
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geneo93	kuzmaster: can you mount that drive	06:30
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kuzmaster	yeah	06:31
kuzmaster	http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2509/disk22cw.jpg	06:31
kuzmaster	there	06:31
kuzmaster	kubuntu is on hd(1,0)	06:31
kuzmaster	and im pretty sure that windows is on hd(0,0)	06:32
poimen	someone knows anice good adicting game for linux and windows ?	06:32
geneo93	fdisk -l	06:32
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geneo93	poimen: what sort of game	06:33
crimsun_	after the fdisk, move that entire Windows stanza below the ### END DEBIAN ... line	06:33
jerry	hi	06:33
kuzmaster	ok	06:33
kuzmaster	so i go fdisk -l in terminal, then move that stanza down	06:33
erov	wolfenstein enemy territory? :p	06:33
kuzmaster	sudo fdisk -l?	06:34
geneo93	you need to use sudo	06:34
kuzmaster	k	06:34
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kuzmaster	do you want my out put of fdisk -l?	06:34
crimsun_	yes	06:34
jerry	is there any way to start two kubuntus?	06:34
geneo93	haha	06:34
crimsun_	jerry: ?	06:34
jerry	like if I want to log in on one account and one on another	06:35
kuzmaster	geneo93, do you want my out put of fdisk -l?	06:35
jerry	I have multiple users	06:35
jerry	I have a question	06:35
crimsun_	jerry: do you mean two different concurrent users in the same Kubuntu install? Sure.	06:35
geneo93	kuzmaster: yes	06:35
kuzmaster	http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714330	06:35
kuzmaster	there	06:35
jerry	I'm trying to play runescape but the mouse dosen't work	06:35
jerry	and it runs on java	06:36
kuzmaster	cough runescap sucks cough	06:36
jerry	well I have a high goldmaking character	06:36
kuzmaster	yesss.........	06:36
jerry	i have to make money	06:36
jerry	or my children will go hungry :(	06:37
kuzmaster	ok......	06:37
jerry	they won't be happy	06:37
geneo93	kuzmaster: looks like its slave drive	06:37
jerry	there's no way to play music on the pc speakers is there	06:38
crimsun_	heh, looks like someone has been manually editing the automagic part (which gets wiped out and redone automatically0	06:38
crimsun_	)	06:38
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jerry	I just seem to recal having a computer that played sounds on the speaker itself, the one that makes the beeps	06:38
jerry	oh awesome I got the mouse to work	06:39
kuzmaster	what looks like a slave drive?	06:39
kuzmaster	btw, im using cable select	06:39
geneo93	then you dont have winxp as master then	06:40
crimsun_	kuzmaster: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714333	06:40
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jerry	I got a question	06:40
jerry	Is there any way to get rid of banner ads?	06:41
kuzmaster	hmmm, ill look	06:41
kuzmaster	geneo93, but theres a problem with that	06:41
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kuzmaster	my kubuntu is on hd(1,0)	06:42
kuzmaster	thats wat it says it the menu.lst	06:42
loanwolf	? my screensavers will work when i click the test button...but they wont come on when there supose to	06:42
crimsun_	kuzmaster: your menu.lst will be regenerated, and it's wrong currently	06:42
geneo93	kuzmaster: xp might takeover again then grub wont be there anymore	06:42
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kuzmaster	well, ill put that thing at the end now	06:43
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crimsun_	kuzmaster: erase what's currently (according to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714314) lines 145-149	06:43
geneo93	i dont trust xp at all had it for two weeks and it was gone forever	06:44
jerry	I have a question	06:44
kuzmaster	ok	06:44
jerry	I have a very basic windows application that telnets to a server to play a mmorpg. Is there anyway to run that on linux?	06:44
kuzmaster	wine	06:45
kuzmaster	jerry, you will need to install wine	06:45
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kuzmaster	!wine	06:45
ubotu	Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.	06:45
jerry	or maybe because all I have to do is cypher text that begins with "gangchat" into a different window. Is there anything like that for linux?	06:45
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jerry	like someone will say in a telnet session, gangchat "Hi" and all I want to do is cypher that text that began with gangchat into a seperate window	06:47
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IsDis4Me	hello	06:48
IsDis4Me	I need help	06:48
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loanwolf	? screensavers work with test button...but if i set them to start in 1 min..5 mon or so on..they dont come on..anyone have any idea's	06:48
IsDis4Me	how do I add ubuntu PLF to my kubuntu installation	06:48
kuzmaster	ill test it now	06:49
jerry	I have a question	06:49
IsDis4Me	I want w32codecs so that I can watch all media types	06:49
noiesmo	hello is there someway I can password protect folders in my home directory	06:49
jerry	is there any good reading material most perfered in paperback or hardcover book format that someone new to ubuntu can read and refrence	06:49
geneo93	you could mark them as root	06:50
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loanwolf	IsDis4Me, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ....win32codecs down by the bottom	06:52
IsDis4Me	thanks	06:52
loanwolf	no prob...i spent all day yesterday trying to find them	06:53
loanwolf	anyone know how to get screen savers to work	06:54
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kuzmaster	it diddnt work	06:54
kuzmaster	the windows enrty wasnt ther	06:55
kuzmaster	there*	06:55
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kuzmaster	is there a way to auto-detect all os's and put them into the grub menu?	06:55
kuzmaster	is there?	06:56
geneo93	i've never used cable select before so i dont know	06:56
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kuzmaster	well, is there?	06:57
kuzmaster	is there anyone here?	06:57
geneo93	if it didn't when install did grub no	06:58
kuzmaster	it did do it when i installed grub	06:58
geneo93	you need to mark one of the drives as master	06:58
kuzmaster	but scince then ive installed more hard drives	06:58
noiesmo	kuzmaster, sudo update-grub	06:58
kuzmaster	ok, thnax	06:59
loanwolf	??? my ScreenSavers work if i click the test buttom for each one...but how ever much time i give them 5 min or 10 min..they dont come on..any idea's	06:59
kuzmaster	should sudo update-grub add windows xp to the list?	06:59
kkathman	evening folks :)	07:00
noiesmo	kuzmaster, think so	07:00
DaSkreech	poimen: Hider!!!	07:00
DaSkreech	hi kkathman	07:01
kkathman	howdy DaSkreech :)	07:01
noiesmo	loanwolf, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf see if Option "DPMS" is under Section "Monitor"	07:02
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kkathman	heya Snake :)	07:06
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Snake	kkathman: hi	07:07
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poimen	DaSkreech : hum?	07:11
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DaSkreech	I know	07:12
DaSkreech	That's why you are a hider! :)	07:13
DaSkreech	Whats up?	07:13
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poimen	I just wanted to change nick names but I dont know why freenode says I dont own the nick name I registered	07:13
DaSkreech	Cause I'm with the SUKAGoHP	07:13
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poimen	DaSkreech : I am ok :) you?	07:14
DaSkreech	Secret Underground Know All... wait. I can't tell you that!!	07:15
poimen	lol	07:15
DaSkreech	I'm chilling. Listening to Bob saget rap	07:15
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jtinney	Hm, lol, of all the days that EvilIdler is not in this room.	07:16
poimen	DaSkreech : I am watching Every one loves raymond :)	07:17
DaSkreech	poimen: Gave up on KDE4?	07:17
jtinney	Would anyone happen to have a initrd-386 image that will run on an AMD Athlon XP 2600 with a GeForce Ti4200	07:17
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poimen	DaSkreech no... but I doing some changes to all my partitions Right now I am in a freash kubuntu install	07:19
poimen	:)	07:19
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DaSkreech	Ah. Going to try and keep a KDE4 and a KDE stable?	07:19
poimen	this new install is for KDE 3.5.3	07:20
poimen	it is on a ext3 17gig partition	07:20
poimen	going to make a 10 gig partition to install KDE unstable in it	07:20
DaSkreech	ok	07:20
poimen	and dont screwup my stable kubuntu system :)	07:20
DaSkreech	Hmm .. I dont know	07:22
DaSkreech	So you have two installs?	07:22
poimen	then I will burn all my 120 gig of things on my media partition and will make it a 224GIG partition (10 for experimental things) 15 for kubuntu stable) I have a 250GIG HD	07:22
poimen	yep gona have 2 installs	07:22
DaSkreech	one with KDE3.5 and one with no WindowManager/DE?	07:22
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linux_galore	hmm kde-apps.org and kde-look.org have lost a style sheet by the looks	07:22
linux_galore	the middle of the page is blank	07:23
poimen	right now I just have this one with KDE 3.5.3 but gona install a secound one tomorow as soon I get from work	07:23
DaSkreech	:-)	07:24
poimen	I just did this freesh install	07:24
poimen	I was using xchat	07:24
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poimen	in my old install	07:24
poimen	RSsed ?	07:24
poimen	now I am using konversation	07:24
poimen	still I dont know why I kind of like xchat more	07:25
poimen	but what to stick with QT apps	07:25
chavo	linux_galore, the middle is there just scroll down	07:25
poimen	:)	07:25
geneo93	poimen: kopete works with irc	07:25
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DaSkreech	RSS	07:26
poimen	I am not prety sure what is RSS lol	07:26
poimen	geneo93 gona try it right away	07:26
poimen	:)	07:26
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poimen	brb	07:28
linux_galore	chavo: very broken	07:29
chavo	yes	07:29
DaSkreech	geneo93: Kopete :(	07:29
geneo93	no like	07:30
chavo	all those sites are broken, kde-apps ,gnome-look ,etc	07:30
geneo93	i use gaim	07:30
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DaSkreech	geneo93: Hooray!! :)	07:30
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butler	how to open this file ? avg71flm-r28-a0757.i386.rpm	07:31
geneo93	have always used it dont really care if i have a few gtk things around	07:31
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lnxkde	...	07:32
lnxkde	It says I am in #kubuntu	07:32
lnxkde	but I dont see eny nicknames just mine and horizon and I also see the topic	07:33
DaSkreech	ok	07:33
chavo	lnxkde, you can change the theme so it looks more like xchat or w/e	07:34
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lnxkde	ok	07:35
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ChefWill	:(	07:46
ChefWill	why wont kubuntu load my digital camera images	07:46
ChefWill	when it mounts it just shows a folder w/ name of camera	07:46
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poimen	hi	07:47
poimen	now I am on kopete :)	07:47
poimen	kopete 0.12 :D	07:48
ChefWill	how the heck do you transfer images from digital camera?	07:49
PyroMithrandir	I use digiKam	07:49
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DeadS0ul	digital cameras are basically usb mass storage now =D	07:49
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jerry_	I have a question	07:52
ChefWill	ah nice app PyroMithrandir thanks	07:53
PyroMithrandir	welcome :)	07:53
jerry_	My road runner internet modem was going from all lights on to just the online and sending light on and my internet was down just awhile ago	07:53
PyroMithrandir	you still haven't asked your question	07:55
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jerry_	can anyone tell me of a good place to find topics on criminal justice?	08:00
geneo93	google	08:00
KaiserSuse	jerry_: you could try apt-get? ;p	08:01
jerry_	what's apt-get?	08:02
geneo93	hehe	08:02
jerry_	My internet is just going down	08:02
jerry_	well I'm new at this	08:02
jerry_	my internet has down syndrom	08:02
geneo93	jerry_: you want irc channel	08:03
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jerry_	nooo I'm trying to find information on the web on criminal justice subjects	08:04
jerry_	oh boy	08:04
jerry_	did that go through?	08:05
geneo93	http://www.internationalcollege.edu/irc/irclegallinks.htm	08:05
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DaSkreech	poimen: Where did you get the 0.12 deb?	08:06
infidel_	I'm new to linux, can someone guide me through the steps to install the xorg11 package for Kubuntu 6.06?	08:06
poimen	DaSkreech : buahahahaha that is a secret :D	08:06
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poimen	na, I will give it to you in asec	08:07
poimen	http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190273 <--- that before you install it	08:07
DaSkreech	Well SUKAGoHP will see about that!!!!	08:07
infidel_	thanks poimen, I'll look into it	08:08
steph__	hi i have dapper and my usb are not automounting (that worked under breezy)	08:08
poimen	and the one that I am using is the last one, the direct link for the deb I am using is this http://www.dpcontrol.it/debpkgs/kopete_3.5.3-ubuntu0_i386.deb	08:08
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poimen	infidel_ :)	08:09
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infidel_	poimen: sorry no that's not what I'm looking for... :P	08:09
poimen	DaSkreech I works like charm :)	08:09
poimen	infidel_ :)	08:10
DaSkreech	It says that it breaks stuff	08:10
infidel_	<---- total linux newbie, can someone tell me how to install SuperKaramba on Kubuntu 6.06?	08:11
geneo93	DaSkreech: with dpkg	08:12
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DaSkreech	infidel_: Can You open Adept?	08:12
steph__	apt-get install superkaramba	08:12
poimen	infidel : sudo apt-get install superkaramba	08:13
infidel_	I'll try that code first	08:13
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geneo93	DaSkreech: dpkg -i blah.deb	08:14
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infidel_	DaSkreech: I opened Adept, now what?	08:14
DaSkreech	ok in the filter type what ever you are looking for	08:15
geneo93	infidel_: use terminal	08:15
poimen	DaSkreech sudo dpkg -i kopete.012hsfkjhf.deb	08:15
DaSkreech	Yeah ok :-)	08:15
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infidel_	geneo93: I am on terminal, what should I type?	08:16
geneo93	sudo apt-get install superkaramba	08:17
steph__	infidel : sudo apt-get install superkaramba	08:17
poimen	sudo apt-get install superkaramba	08:17
geneo93	echo	08:17
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chavo	echo	08:18
steph__	:D	08:18
infidel_	steph_: terminal gives me the following: E: Couldn't find package superkaramba	08:18
geneo93	would you guys come to work with me and when the boss calls answer for me	08:18
poimen	infidel_ ok time for some sources.list changes :D	08:19
geneo93	poimen: i would have him install synaotic	08:19
steph__	looks like your sources don't contains multiverse	08:19
geneo93	synnaptic	08:19
infidel_	I am so confused... :P	08:19
steph__	infidel : do a kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list	08:20
infidel_	k	08:20
geneo93	just relax	08:20
poimen	well.. I will keep quiet I am old fashioned konsole based installer :D	08:20
infidel_	I am relaxed :) I love linux but I am a total newbie	08:20
steph__	and on those ttwo lines add :	08:20
steph__	deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse	08:20
steph__	deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse	08:20
geneo93	you wont learn it in five minutes if you have everything done for you	08:21
steph__	(just add multiverse after universe)	08:21
steph__	then do a sudo apt-get update	08:21
steph__	and sudo apt-get install superkaramba	08:21
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geneo93	sudo apt-get install kde will install all of kde	08:22
steph__	geneo93 : except superkaramba it's not in the universe repo	08:23
geneo93	well he needs multiverse	08:23
steph__	yep	08:24
steph__	infidel still here	08:24
infidel_	yes, every moment.	08:24
geneo93	i was just saying if you want all of kde	08:24
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steph__	oh ok	08:24
poimen	he died trying to figureout how to install superkaramba	08:24
poimen	:P	08:24
steph__	infidel : so did you try N	08:24
Lynoure	Hello :)	08:25
DaSkreech	Can I get a visual network indicator?	08:25
infidel_	steph_: what's N?	08:25
geneo93	netapplet you mean	08:25
steph__	sorry N was ?	08:25
steph__	i said did you try was i say above?	08:25
infidel_	trying it now :P	08:26
steph__	da screetch : did you try the kde applet?	08:26
MasterEvilAce	Argh! i still can't get RealVNC (or any VNC for that matter) to connect to my windows server. I keep getting "Aborted" or some weird security message (depending onthe client)	08:27
MasterEvilAce	i can't figure it out	08:27
geneo93	DaSkreech: use knetdockapp	08:27
infidel_	steph_: it updated some stuff and last line says Setting Up superkaramba.... now what	08:29
steph__	just alt+F2 and type superkaramba	08:30
steph__	so that kde load it each time	08:30
steph__	and you'll have to get theme	08:30
infidel_	steph_: Thank you very much! :)	08:31
Lynoure	Does kpilot work fine for other people? It used to work for me only once for each boot, now I don't get it to synch at all.	08:31
geneo93	python at its best	08:31
steph__	infidel -> cool you can get the weather on your desktop now	08:32
geneo93	you can with kweather also	08:32
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steph__	so.... anyone for my automounting stuff?	08:33
infidel_	steph_: haha yeah always wanted that	08:33
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Hobbsee	!mount	08:33
ubotu	well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f	08:33
steph__	infidel : i have a hudge trash icon on my desktop that's cool :D (just eye candy in fact) but superkaramba has cool theme	08:33
steph__	not mount ----> automount	08:34
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steph__	under breezy when i plugged an usb device it automount not under dapper	08:34
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steph__	:(	08:35
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geneo93	steph__: mine works just fine	08:35
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steph__	geneo : you mean that when you plugg you usb it show you the mounted icon on the desktop?	08:36
geneo93	yes	08:36
steph__	damned i'm damned :D	08:36
steph__	i've installed dapper on three different computer and it didn't	08:36
geneo93	i used dvd to install with text	08:37
steph__	i did it with dist-upgrade then a fresh install text-mode(CD)	08:37
geneo93	and it even got kernel right the first time	08:37
steph__	which kernel have you?	08:37
geneo93	not 386 like with cd	08:38
steph__	?	08:38
geneo93	Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-25-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:34:19 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux	08:38
steph__	i think i'll have to right click->mount ..... it will be a real change for my grand mother :D	08:39
steph__	i have Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux	08:39
Lynoure	Does anyone use kpilot? (I guess not)	08:39
steph__	you're under AmD?	08:40
steph__	lynoure : not me	08:40
geneo93	no dual xeon p4's	08:40
geneo93	with ht	08:40
DaSkreech	geneo93: Interesting :)	08:40
steph__	geneo : waow that must be pretty fast	08:40
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geneo93	says i have 8 pocessors	08:41
steph__	8-D	08:41
geneo93	duh	08:41
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geneo93	that reminds me i have to get rid of splash at boot	08:42
steph__	why it's just a flash at boot :D?	08:43
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geneo93	ah it takes time to do that crap	08:44
geneo93	who needs eye candy	08:44
steph__	infidel_ needs	08:44
MasterEvilAce	omg does ANYONE know how to make vncviewer connect to a windows machine and actually WORK???	08:44
steph__	MASTER : i'm doing it eveyday without pb	08:45
geneo93	MasterEvilAce: just take sledgehammer to windows box	08:45
MasterEvilAce	it's not windows box, incidentally	08:45
MasterEvilAce	it's definitely linux	08:46
steph__	hey?	08:46
geneo93	MasterEvilAce: omg does ANYONE know how to make vncviewer connect to a windows machine and actually WORK???	08:46
MasterEvilAce	geneo93: yeah? my windows machine is hosting fine. i actually have someone else connected to me right now.	08:47
MasterEvilAce	I just need to be able to connect to them, pref. from my linux computer	08:47
MasterEvilAce	i can connect to them from my windows box	08:47
steph__	what's the error?	08:47
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MasterEvilAce	I get "Aborted" after it says some info such as Connected to IP / using RFB protocol version 4	08:48
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MasterEvilAce	i've installed a few diff clients and some of the others gave a security warning.. too many security somethings..	08:49
Lynoure	MasterEvilAce: Which vnc server you use in the windows box? Are you using the client of the same? I bet there are some nonstandard vnc software out there.	08:49
MasterEvilAce	both are RealVNC	08:50
geneo93	windows in non standard	08:50
MasterEvilAce	newest version on both	08:50
poimen	well my time to sleep have come :D	08:50
MasterEvilAce	geneo93: you're not helping anyone, thanks	08:51
poimen	see you all tomorow :D God bless you all	08:51
steph__	master : geneo is helping / trying to understand	08:51
MasterEvilAce	steph__: if he is, i apologize. but he surely seems to be bashing windows constantly, when i can receive and connect on my windows box	08:52
geneo93	poimen: same to you	08:52
poimen	bye	08:52
geneo93	MasterEvilAce: i just haven;t used any M$ stuff since 99	08:53
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steph__	ok time for me to live it's day time :D	08:56
geneo93	hehe	08:56
geneo93	3 am here	08:57
steph__	9 am in france :D	08:57
Lynoure	MasterEvilAce: Sounds, in general that is this more a RealVNC problem (realvnc does not seem to exist in kubuntu), than kubuntu problem. Might be that their people can help you better	08:57
geneo93	yeah wish i was there	08:57
steph__	where are you from?	08:58
geneo93	ohio usa	08:58
Lynoure	MasterEvilAce: see http://realvnc.com/cgi-bin/support-faq.cgi	08:58
steph__	wish i was there :D	08:58
geneo93	na you dont hot and muggy	08:58
steph__	ok bye everyone have a nice day/night	08:58
pharmakom	In firefox 1.5.4 I can play flash videos but I get no sound. Has anyone had experience?	08:58
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Hobbsee	!root	08:59
ubotu	Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.	08:59
MasterEvilAce	I I installed xvncviewer just to try it.. and it connected right up. i don't understand. the install must have added something that wasn't there before. thanks god it works now.. taken way too much time on that problem	08:59
geneo93	macros	09:00
geneo93	time to go	09:01
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Lynoure	MasterEvilAce: You can probably contact RealVNC company to report a bug if you wish. I'm glad you got vnc working, and kind of glad it happened with open software :)	09:03
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subtle	kubuntu is good.	09:06
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Lynoure	subtle: I would agree but kpilot being broken kind of colours it for me :(	09:07
subtle	i'd offer assistance if i was capable of it - i'm still a bit of a linux newbie =P	09:07
jerry_	hi	09:07
Lynoure	...as I pretty much live with my palm pilot and the kpilot problems mades it much harder to back it up	09:07
Lynoure	subtle: when I have time/focus I will unleash strace at it, I think. So all hope is not lost :)	09:08
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subtle	I certainly wish you the best with that! I'm off to sleep though - have a good night	09:09
Lynoure	Good night!	09:09
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Rede	!wifi	09:11
ubotu	wifi is, like, a term to describe wireless networks (also known as 802.11a/b/g/n). For help getting it set up in Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto	09:11
Lynoure	I'm like trying to get rid of my filler sounds, so it is like funny to hear a bot using some =)	09:11
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Rede	!wireless	09:12
ubotu	I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers	09:12
Rede	there we go	09:12
icheyne	my kubuntu install has stopped booting up	09:13
icheyne	any ideas why?	09:13
icheyne	was working fine	09:13
wilfred	what's with the exclamation mark before a word?	09:13
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icheyne	!tell wifred about ubotu	09:13
word	wilfred: That searches for it	09:13
wilfred	!tell wilfred about ubotu	09:14
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wilfred	ichyene: tried a safe boot?	09:19
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jerry_	That's the oppsite of this!	09:32
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kinema	I'm playing with kubuntu dapper right now as a vmware guest and just found out that i cant mount smb shares because there is no /sbin/mount.smbfs. is there anyway to get arround this?	09:38
kinema	btw i'm running the live cd	09:38
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Kmirno	kings: livecd sucks compared to the real thing.	09:39
Kmirno	kings: install the real thing, you everything will work	09:39
Kmirno	mostly	09:40
TheHighChild	anyone know what I can do when adept hangs during installation with no output in the details	09:40
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wilfred	have you tried pressing show details TheHighChild?	09:40
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TheHighChild	wilfred: Yeah, it's blank	09:43
DaSkreech	Night all!!	09:43
wilfred	what are you trying to install? is it only hanging on something specific?	09:44
Hobbsee	!firefox1.5	09:45
ubotu	You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion	09:45
TheHighChild	I was trying to remove Gnome-games and it started downloading VMware headers, which is fine as I as having problems starting up b ut now it's trying to setup vmware-player	09:45
wilfred	I'm not sure. Did you have vmware installed before?	09:46
TheHighChild	Yes	09:47
orgulloputer	Hello, I'm a recent Windows convert. I'm having some problems regarding IRC connections. Every once in a while, I will get disconnected, but it seems as though my computer doesn't "know" it's disconnected. In Windows, as soon as I would get disconnected, my client would raise some type of error. This same thing is ocurring with Xchat, Konversation, and some IRC bots that I wrote personally	09:48
TheHighChild	Is there a way to halt adept without damaging my system?	09:48
orgulloputer	any ideas?	09:48
wilfred	maybe it was trying to update vmware at the same time. Try a full update then try again	09:48
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animato	hello, anyone here still using breezy?	10:18
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Hobbsee	animato: i was using hoary a few minutes ago, what did you want to know?	10:24
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Ayabara	I have problems with networking on my ubuntu install being _slow_ . when I start up ktorrent it dl's really fast for a couple of minutes, but then it decreases drastically.	10:38
Healot	it's the bt network concern...	10:39
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RawSewage	Is Konqueror broken for anyone	10:40
Healot	broken like?	10:40
Ayabara	known phenomena?	10:40
RawSewage	When I try to start it, after this latest update I get	10:41
Ayabara	a bt network concern in kubuntu?	10:41
RawSewage	Could not find mime type application/octet-stream	10:41
Healot	nothing to do with the OS, Ayabara	10:41
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Ayabara	Healot: didn't really think so. but I don't thing it is a bt issue. firefox is painfully slow, and apt-get times out on me	10:42
Hobbsee	RawSewage: that seems ot like happening, every once in a while	10:42
RawSewage	How can I fix it	10:42
Healot	it's the bt network... you have too many dead connections...	10:42
Ayabara	Healot: is there nothing to be done about it, or can i tweak some settings?	10:45
RawSewage	Hobbsee, do you know how I can fix it	10:45
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Hobbsee	RawSewage: i dont	10:45
Healot	i don't have any idea on fixing the OS components, because I don't think any is broken	10:45
RawSewage	I'll just wait then	10:45
Ayabara	ktorrent allows unlimited number of connections per torrent, should decrease this a bit maybe?	10:46
RawSewage	I bet more people will start to get this bug	10:46
RawSewage	tonight	10:46
Healot	restart the connection/modem/whatever concern the physical connection	10:46
Healot	Ayabara: yeah, that probably helps	10:46
RawSewage	KTorrent?	10:46
RawSewage	restart KTOrrent	10:46
RawSewage	sometimes it goes dead	10:46
Healot	Ayabara: you set unlimited connection per torrent?	10:46
Healot	unless you have a real fast digital line, I do no recommend that	10:46
Healot	not*	10:47
Ayabara	Healot: it was the default setting, and I just found it	10:48
Healot	hum	10:48
Ayabara	Healot: what's a good number? I have a 3mbps line	10:48
Healot	10-15 or lower would be better	10:48
Healot	DSL right	10:48
Healot	turn off the super seed mode too, if there is any	10:49
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Ayabara	I'll try 25. Having number of seeds set to unlimited can't harm, right? thanks for helping btw.	10:50
Healot	0 on seeding (unlimited seed) is "super seeding"	10:50
Healot	super seeding might hurt you a bit	10:51
Ayabara	Healot: no super seed mode, but "number of seeds" set to infinite	10:52
Healot	yeah	10:52
Healot	infinity seeding is super seeding	10:52
Ayabara	hmm. ok. what's a good number for that setting?	10:53
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Healot	how may torrents do have now?	10:53
Healot	5-6 would be ideal, on 3Mbps	10:53
Healot	6 * 15 clients connection = ?	10:54
Ayabara	6-7	10:54
Healot	that's how many upload connection you may get...	10:54
Healot	btw, it ;s up to you	10:55
Ayabara	I'm a complete newbie at this stuff. did you mean 6*15 in the seed field?	10:55
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Healot	no	10:56
Healot	6 seed time 15 clients upload = just imagine the traffic ...	10:57
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Healot	hoho	10:57
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Healot	yakimo wo taberu... brad__?	10:58
brad__	tama ni taberu	10:58
Ayabara	trying with 6 seeds that. thanks for your help	10:58
Healot	if you need heavy web browsing, consider less	10:59
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alessandro	Buongiorno a tutti	10:59
Healot	!it	10:59
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	10:59
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alessandro	Sorry! Can i ask two questions?	11:00
Healot	sure	11:00
Hobbsee	alessandro: sure, but i'ts an english only channel	11:01
Healot	just ask	11:01
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Healot	in English that is	11:01
alessandro	Ok... Ok in English ;-) So, why Amarok don't play any MP3? XMMS, instead, sounds very good! My kubuntu is 6.06 LTS on IBM Thinkpad T42	11:02
Hobbsee	!mp3	11:03
ubotu	methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	11:03
Hobbsee	alessandro: install libxine-extracodecs	11:03
Healot	t42 is a nice machine	11:03
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alessandro	Thanks friends! Yes the t42 is a good machine but a little unfriendly to Linux... ;-\|	11:04
brad__	mind if i ask a question on a problem with skype?	11:04
Healot	alessandro: follow the wiki and if you encounter problems, just ask for more	11:04
TheHighChild	My T42 runs great	11:04
Hobbsee	brad__: go for it, no idea if we can answer it though	11:05
Healot	what's the hype with skype?	11:05
brad__	ok - i get this error when i try to run it:	11:05
brad__	* glibc detected * free(): invalid pointer: 0x08a18e00 ***	11:05
Healot	oh... buggy skype binary	11:06
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Healot	can't even use pointer properly	11:06
fatejudger	have the edgy syncs started yet?	11:06
alessandro	Ok! The second question is XGL. I installed it on Ubuntu, and works very well. In Kubuntu the procedure is the same? I don't found any wiki for kubuntu...	11:06
fatejudger	or is it still relatively unusable?	11:06
Healot	!xgl	11:07
ubotu	XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	11:07
Healot	alessandro: btw, xgl procedure is the same in both desktop	11:07
Healot	fatejudger: read the topic in #ubuntu+1	11:07
[Evil] [Ernie]	hm	11:08
[Evil] [Ernie]	!wine	11:08
ubotu	Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.	11:08
Healot	excessive drinking of Wine can get you drunk	11:08
[Evil] [Ernie]	getting drunk off wine is awesome	11:08
alessandro	Ok, i'll try now! Thanks a lot for your help! :-D	11:08
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RawSewage	So now I have no file browser and no web browser. KOnqueror is broken	11:13
pym	hola	11:14
RawSewage	Anyone know how I can repair it	11:14
Healot	how you did that?	11:14
RawSewage	the update	11:14
Healot	i haven't update yet... so I don't know what happened to you	11:14
RawSewage	Im using the real Konqueor settings, not the Kubuntu ones	11:14
RawSewage	the one that gives you more options	11:14
RawSewage	so maybe thats why it got broken in the update	11:15
Healot	revert back to Kubuntu's default setting	11:15
[Evil] [Ernie]	hmm	11:15
[Evil] [Ernie]	wine seems to be broken	11:15
[Evil] [Ernie]	lol	11:15
[Evil] [Ernie]	im trying to install photoshop cs 2	11:15
[Evil] [Ernie]	and the installer craps out before it starts installing	11:16
[Evil] [Ernie]	anyone have experience with wine?	11:16
RawSewage	No	11:16
RawSewage	I dont want to use the baby version	11:16
RawSewage	I need the extra options	11:16
RawSewage	I'll figure it out, I guess	11:16
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Healot	[Evil] [Ernie] : goto winehq.org >> find the compatiblity list on the version of WINE you have	11:20
RogueJediX	Or try GimpShop or Krita	11:22
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Healot	[Evil] [Ernie] >> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=17	11:25
Healot	Photoshop compatibility status	11:26
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Healot	http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2631 >> Conclusion, not installable ?	11:26
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flux_	hi	11:28
square_head	hi	11:28
flux_	does anyone now how to reinstall kde from commandline?	11:28
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square_head	My monitor Samsung SyncMaster 997MB should support 1024x768@100Hz, but it doesn't in Kubuntu	11:29
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square_head	any ideeas of what I should add to xorg?	11:30
DeadS0ul	run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	11:31
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[Evil] [Ernie]	hmm	11:31
[Evil] [Ernie]	is there a way to make like, a batch file? that kind of thing?	11:31
[Evil] [Ernie]	a file you open and it runs a command through the terminal	11:32
Hobbsee	as in, creating a shell script?	11:32
square_head	"nv" driver is without Hardware acceleration ?	11:33
square_head	and nvidia is with hardware acceleration?	11:33
[Evil] [Ernie]	if that's what a shell script is.. then yes :)	11:33
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Hobbsee	[Evil] [Ernie] : http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/	11:34
[Evil] [Ernie]	thx	11:34
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alessandro	Hallo... nothing to do with Xgl... ;-(	11:37
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nomad111	hey every1 does any1 hav an inspiron 6400/e1505	11:39
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[Evil] [Ernie]	hm	11:42
[Evil] [Ernie]	shell scripting is a tad complicated unless you're ready to read a novel =p	11:43
[Evil] [Ernie]	meh	11:43
nomad111	i need to change my resolution but i dont know wat screen to choose	11:43
nomad111	and at the moment i cant change my resolution	11:43
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alessandro	Anyone with a IBM t42 and XGL installed?	11:45
klerfayt	square_head: I believe that nv uses hardware acceleration too	11:48
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klerfayt	square_head: if you want 3d acceleration then install nvidia-glx (multiverse has to be enabled in adept)	11:49
square_head	thx	11:49
RawSewage	Konqueror no longer works	11:53
RawSewage	My computer is useless now	11:53
Lynoure	RawSewage: What happened?	11:53
RawSewage	When I try to start it , I get the error:	11:54
RawSewage	Could not find mime type application/octet-stream	11:54
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RawSewage	I think the update broke it	11:54
Lynoure	Oh, konqueror not working does not make the computer useless... But sounds like you could get rid of that by removing konqueror confs and restarting	11:54
Lynoure	(just a guess)	11:55
RawSewage	where are those	11:55
chavo	RawSewage, try this KDEHOME=~/kdetest konqueror	11:55
chavo	that will make a temporary home for kde config	11:55
chavo	to test	11:55
RawSewage	Ok	11:55
RawSewage	do the errors mean anything	11:56
RawSewage	It appears not able to open bookmarks.xml	11:56
RawSewage	oh, thats just for the test	11:56
RawSewage	but it started	11:56
RawSewage	what now	11:56
chavo	sounds like your mime types are messed up, kill the konq window	11:57
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RawSewage	Maybe I broke it when I tried to associate a par file with QuickPar in Wine	11:57
chavo	now try running -> kbuildsyscoca and then launch konq normally	11:57
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RawSewage	is that the correct spelling	11:58
slow-motion	hallo	11:58
RawSewage	bash: kbuildsyscoca: command not found	11:58
chavo	woops kbuildsycoca	11:58
chavo	<- bad typer	11:59
RawSewage	ok, I ran it and got: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!	11:59
RawSewage	maybe I should reboot	11:59
chavo	no dont yet, just mv ~/.kde/share/mimelnk ~	12:00
chavo	then try it again	12:00
RawSewage	that fixed it	12:00
chavo	alright	12:00
RawSewage	thanks	12:00
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chavo	well any mimetype customization you did is in that folder	12:01
RawSewage	where did I move it	12:01
chavo	your home	12:01
RawSewage	I can delete it now, right	12:01
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RawSewage	just use it for reference to rebuild	12:02
chavo	any time you have trouble with a kde app, try the new profile thing KDEHOME=kdetest	12:02
visik7	where is reiserfs ?!	12:02
visik7	in ubiquity	12:02
chavo	well you can just copy the ones that aren't broken	12:02
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RawSewage	but that folder in Home is no longer being used, right	12:02
chavo	no	12:02
chavo	you can rm -r kdetest	12:02
RawSewage	but what about the mimelnk folder in Home	12:03
RawSewage	can I delete it	12:03
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chavo	if you want anything out of it save it otherwise you can delete	12:03
RawSewage	but I have a new one now, right	12:03
RawSewage	in .kde	12:03
chavo	yes	12:03
RawSewage	I guess it wasnt the update. I guess I broke it when I tried to create a par2 association	12:05
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accu	hello	12:06
Lynoure	I wish it helped with the damned kpilot... too tired to do any real digging...	12:06
RawSewage	are you trying to connect to a PocketPC	12:06
Lynoure	RawSewage: no, palm pilot, kpilot broke for me some kernel updates ago and completely after the latest	12:07
Lynoure	oops, palm tungsten e, I mean	12:07
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wilfred	how do I rip a cd?	12:10
RawSewage	audio?	12:11
RawSewage	I think you just drag and drop	12:11
RawSewage	in Konqueror	12:11
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chavo	yeah try audiocd:/ in konq	12:11
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wilfred	seems to work, thanks chavo. kaudiothingy keeps hanging	12:14
wilfred	nope, konq doesn't want to play. tries to copy but then says 'stalled'. Any ideas?	12:15
defrysk	kaudiocreator	12:15
wilfred	kaudiocreator crashes... :-(	12:16
defrysk	well try grip	12:17
wilfred	grip?	12:17
defrysk	ist gtk2 but usually works like a charm	12:17
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wilfred	I'll try it	12:17
animato	hello, anyone using breezy?	12:18
chavo	yeah grip's been around for a while	12:18
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defrysk	sound-juicer is also a well known cdripper (gtk2)	12:19
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animato	why would you use rippers when konq can rip?	12:20
wilfred	konq "stalls"	12:20
animato	stalls?	12:20
animato	meaning?	12:20
chavo	make sure the cd is clean?	12:20
animato	you mean you can't do anything with your system while ripping with konq?	12:21
wilfred	It brings up the copying file message, then says it stalls. I get a ~40kb file only	12:21
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wilfred	cd plays fine, relatively new	12:21
animato	i don't wanna badmouth or anything, but is it true that dapper has way more bugs than breezy?	12:21
animato	i just started using kubuntu dapper and i'm having really annoying bugs, never used kde on breezy, but i've seen lots of complaints on dapper	12:22
Lynoure	animato: Logically that would make sense. Breezy has had more time after it's release for fixing bugs in it.	12:22
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Hobbsee	Lynoure: bugs are designed to be fixed before release, not after. mind you, a lot more people file bug reports after	12:22
Lynoure	And I bet there is also more software in dapper than breezy...	12:23
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Lynoure	Hobbsee: bugs are not designed, I hope =)	12:23
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chavo	honestly kde 3.5.3 has been rock solid here	12:23
Hobbsee	Lynoure: of course not	12:23
Hobbsee	animato: what major annoying bugs?	12:23
animato	ok let's see	12:23
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Lynoure	For me the kpilot bugs are mojorly annoying :(	12:24
animato	1st, that power saving bug	12:24
Lynoure	Kernel related, it seems...	12:24
animato	2nd, sometimes when i click the admin. button, it won't show the password window no matter what i do	12:25
animato	3rd sometimes adept keeps on loading forever for no reason and won't open up	12:25
animato	4rd i've had the main panel disappear on me one time before and konq froze :(	12:25
Hobbsee	animato: 2 - that's been around for ages. seems like config files or something left from breezy	12:26
Hobbsee	animato: type /sysinfo?	12:26
wilfred	how do I change what kde does by default when I put an audio cd in?	12:26
Hobbsee	(in here)	12:26
animato	Sysinfo for 'ourcomp': Linux 2.6.15-25-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2800+ at 2091 MHz (4187 bogomips), , RAM: 468/502MB, 119 proc's, 13.8h up	12:26
Hobbsee	animato: kde 3.5.3 has a whole lot of bug fixes in it - you may want to upgrade. see !kde3.5.3	12:27
Hobbsee	!kde3.5.3	12:27
ubotu	[kde3.5.3] to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".	12:27
animato	i've been using gnome before, never was fond of kde, but when dapper was released, i decided to give it another spin. esp since my gf started using kopete so i said, what the heck, let's try	12:28
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kuzmaster	hey all	12:28
animato	it won't mess up anything upgrading to 3.53 right?	12:28
Hobbsee	hey kuzmaster	12:28
Hobbsee	animato: well, it's a new release, but i've not heard of problems with people upgrading	12:28
animato	kewl	12:29
animato	it might solve some the problems :)	12:29
animato	thanx	12:29
imbrandon	animato, SHOULDENT , but not garentee ( i'm running it personaly as is Hobbsee i think )	12:29
animato	what do i do with this error?	12:30
animato	gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found	12:30
animato	oh there	12:30
imbrandon	thats not an error	12:30
imbrandon	thats good	12:30
animato	i've tried it again	12:30
animato	and now it says ok	12:30
imbrandon	kk	12:30
animato	what happens now after i type those commands?	12:30
animato	i should have it on adept?	12:30
imbrandon	have you added that deb line to your sources.list ?	12:31
animato	what deb line?	12:31
imbrandon	deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main	12:31
imbrandon	^^ that line	12:31
animato	oh right	12:31
animato	silly me	12:31
animato	ok	12:31
imbrandon	after you do that just type	12:31
imbrandon	sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	12:32
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imbrandon	it will upgrade your kde to 3.5.3	12:32
imbrandon	then restart kde ( log out and back in )	12:32
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imbrandon	then enjoy kde bling ;)	12:32
Lynoure	bah, I cannot figure out whether this error should be reported to kpilot or kernel...	12:33
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Lynoure	!pastebin	12:33
ubotu	Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .	12:33
imbrandon	Lynoure, what error ?	12:33
Lynoure	imbrandon: a bit too long to paste here...	12:33
imbrandon	kubuntu.pastebin.com ;)	12:34
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Lynoure	imbrandon: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714595	12:36
Lynoure	imbrandon: Happens every time I try to sync with kpilot :(	12:36
animato	when i type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get the following error	12:36
animato	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	12:36
animato	E: Unable to lock the list directory	12:36
animato	what do i do? :(	12:36
Hobbsee	animato: killall adept	12:37
imbrandon	close adept	12:37
imbrandon	err yea what hobsee said	12:37
Hobbsee	imbrandon: it wouldnt open in the first place, remember? :P	12:37
animato	it wasn't open	12:37
Lynoure	It feels like living dangerously to depend on a Palmie and not having synced for week. Thank gods there is backup-to-SD programs	12:37
animato	but there	12:37
animato	now it works	12:37
animato	the only problem is, it gets stuck in the mirror.cc.columbia.edu mirror	12:37
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animato	can i remove it?	12:38
imbrandon	sure	12:38
imbrandon	you can use any mirror you want	12:38
imbrandon	us.archive.ubuntu.com is good for us people	12:38
imbrandon	Lynoure, looking	12:39
animato	updaing :)	12:39
animato	thanx	12:39
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imbrandon	Lynoure, that happens when you sync or plug in your palm ( i am figuriong its not a serial palm cradle its usb )	12:40
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Lynoure	imbrandon: usb, yes. Then I sync, palms don't really show over usb before sync has been pressed on the device.	12:42
Tallia1Kubuntu	where do i find a tutorial on xgl installation in kubuntu?	12:42
Tallia1Kubuntu	!xgl	12:42
ubotu	XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	12:42
slow-motion	bbl	12:43
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Lynoure	(I mean they only show in lsusb when sync has been selected on the device)	12:43
imbrandon	ahh looks like kernel but not totaly sure and wouldent know where to start debuging that	12:43
imbrandon	but its never making it to kpilot stuff so its kernel	12:44
Tallia1Kubuntu	where do i find a tutorial on xgl installation in kubuntu?	12:44
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Lynoure	imbrandon: It's just so much harder to find which package to report kernel related bugs to... I have 2.6.15-25-386 but that's no package...	12:50
Hobbsee	Lynoure: i believe the package you want is linux-image-2.6.15?	12:52
h3sp4wn	Tallia1Kubuntu: The only time I have had xgl running sufficiently well is under the kororaa (gentoo based live cd) I would recommend building xgl from svn (using sse optimisations)	12:54
Lynoure	Hobbsee: Hmm, probably, thanks	12:55
h3sp4wn	Lynoure: linux-source-2.6.15 is what you file bugs against	12:55
Lynoure	Then I only need to figure out how to label it informatively...	12:55
imbrandon	https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/linux-source-2.6.15	12:55
alessandro	Hi all, can you tell me the command to upgrade my OpenOffice and wich repository should use?	12:55
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imbrandon	alessandro, what version of kubuntu are you using and what version do you want to upgrade to ?	12:56
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animato	wow, i just finished updating to 3.5.3 and it totally sped up my system!	12:56
Hobbsee	animato: :)	12:57
animato	i'm impressed, i was having a few issues with 3.5.2 and now i think they're over	12:57
animato	thanx guys :)	12:57
Hobbsee	animato: not a problem	12:57
chavo	yup 3.5.3 loads in seconds here	12:57
animato	kde totally got me after using gnome for a long time :)	12:57
alessandro	I have Kubuntu 6.06 LTS and OpenOffice 2.0.2 On OpenOffice site the latest version is 2.0.3...	12:57
animato	just one last question	12:57
animato	two to be exact	12:57
Hobbsee	animato: shoot	12:57
animato	1st, what happens if i tell it not to save my last session	12:57
Hobbsee	animato: you get an empty session the next time you login	12:58
animato	2nd: kmix won't load up when i restart, how can i make it load up automatically	12:58
animato	but it will save my options and all doesn't it?	12:58
h3sp4wn	Hobbsee: Do you use konversation ? do you get [Error] \: Unknown command (when ever you leave a channel - I have ever since the lastest update of kde 3.5.3 (0.2 I think it was)	12:58
Hobbsee	options, yes. but it wont automatically open the programs again as you left them	12:58
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imbrandon	start kmix and exit with it still loaded OR link to it in .kde/Autostart	12:58
animato	oh ok	12:58
animato	i don't mind	12:58
chavo	animato, just run kmix it should stay in the tray	12:58
animato	oh ok thanx	12:58
imbrandon	h3sp4wn, i do and no i dont	12:58
animato	i know, i just want it to auto load	12:59
Hobbsee	h3sp4wn: yes, no	12:59
animato	is .kde/autostart a dir?	12:59
imbrandon	animato, unless you close it it will auto load from then on	12:59
chavo	animato, yes	12:59
imbrandon	and yes ~/.kde/Autostart is a dir	12:59
chavo	Autostart with uppercase A	12:59
animato	i can't find it	12:59
Lynoure	imbrandon: submitted https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/50098 , short but hopefully to the point.	12:59
imbrandon	Lynoure, ok i'm sure the approperate people will get it now	01:00
animato	where can i find .kde/Autostart?	01:00
chavo	animato, in your home dir	01:00
imbrandon	animato, type " cd ~/.kde/Autostart "	01:00
animato	oh right thanx!	01:01
animato	just copy a link of kmix there?	01:01
imbrandon	animato, but like i said once you load kmix unless you explisitly unload it it will autoload everytime without doing that	01:01
imbrandon	animato, yes	01:01
animato	ok thanx	01:01
imbrandon	heya chavo	01:02
chavo	hi	01:02
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animato	oh, i got another question about kopete	01:03
animato	how do i change the font on the contact list and messages? i can't find that option :(	01:03
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square_head	hi	01:03
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square_head	How can I set my super-key to Windows-key?	01:03
animato	oh found it	01:04
square_head	because It doesn't seem to work	01:04
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Lynoure	h3sp4wn: Nice quit message... thoguh I just ruined the success by opening my mouth to my employer about it not being ok to violate laws about collecting private information... They weren't all that happy, but it was my information....	01:10
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jonatan	uhm, ok , I have this problem with the latest updates ...	01:23
jonatan	After updating yesterday Dapper won't boot if I use the nvidia drivers, it boots fine with the nv ones	01:24
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h3sp4wn	Lynoure: Unfortunately employers seldom like the truth unless it benefits them or their bottom line	01:24
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slow-motion	re	01:32
alessandro	Hi guys! Just upgraded KDE to 3.5.3! It's breezy now!	01:32
accu	where does KDE get its keycode mappings from? my capslock key is mapped to Control_L	01:32
accu	??	01:33
accu	(this is in dapper. breezy worked fine)	01:33
accu	If I manually remap keycode 66 to capslock and remove the symbol from the control modifier and add it to the lock modifier it works ok	01:34
DeadS0ul	i ned new music	01:35
accu	then, in .../share/xmodmap only the *ibm modmaps have this 66->control mapping.. setting another modmap doesn fix the problem however	01:36
Firetech	hmm	01:37
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nico8481	lo	01:37
Firetech	my kde is seriously b0rked... it doesn't find the crystal svg theme	01:37
Firetech	it still is in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg, but kde doesn't want to find it	01:37
accu	Firetech: maybe remove then install ?	01:38
Firetech	remove what?	01:38
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accu	the crystalsvg theme	01:38
Firetech	what package contains crystalsvg?	01:38
accu	hm	01:38
accu	good question	01:39
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accu	kdebase-data seems to have the largest part of it	01:41
Tommy2k4	hmm i used the autostart to make opera and kopete open on boot up and on boot it gives the error that they have no type= :s	01:41
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chavo	Tommy2k4, did you ame .desktop files or copy them there?	01:42
Tallia1Kubuntu	h3sp4wn: still here?	01:43
giuseppe	ciao	01:43
h3sp4wn	Tallia1Kubuntu: sort of	01:43
Tallia1Kubuntu	ciao	01:43
giuseppe	come posso fare per mettere msn su kubuntu	01:43
Tommy2k4	i didnt even know i was meant to do something with the files	01:43
Tommy2k4	it just asks what command to use	01:43
Tallia1Kubuntu	h3sp4wn: :) what did you mean with sufficiently well?	01:43
Tallia1Kubuntu	h3sp4wn: you mean performances?	01:44
Tallia1Kubuntu	giuseppe: ? kopet	01:44
Tallia1Kubuntu	e	01:44
Firetech	could someopne please paste his/her kcrystalsvg index.theme file? (on pastebin) mine has disappeared...	01:44
Tallia1Kubuntu	giuseppe: sudo apt-get install kopete	01:44
Tallia1Kubuntu	giuseppe: anche se dovrebbe essere gi installato	01:44
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Tallia1Kubuntu	giuseppe: scrivi kopete nella box che appare premendo ALT+F2	01:44
Tallia1Kubuntu	Firetech: gimme a sec	01:45
h3sp4wn	Tallia1Kubuntu: Running quickly and I would say useably fast maybe you could get the source from a debian repository of someone who keeps upto date stuff and compile it with -sse	01:45
Tallia1Kubuntu	what's sse?	01:45
h3sp4wn	Multimedia instructions in p3 and athlon xp and greater	01:45
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Tallia1Kubuntu	h3sp4wn: oh, i thaught it was completely usable... instead as far as you are saying on laptops is practically impossible to see it working properly	01:46
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Tallia1Kubuntu	Firetech: sorry, can't find kcrystalsvg	01:46
h3sp4wn	Tallia1Kubuntu: Its alpha software and hence if you are using it you should be testing the latest version (I think - no point in reporting bugs if they have already been fixed)	01:47
Tallia1Kubuntu	giuseppe: risolto il problema?	01:47
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Firetech	Tallia1Kubuntu: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/index.theme	01:47
Tallia1Kubuntu	giuseppe: comunque.. considera l'esistenza di #ubuntu-it :) qui ti insultano se parli in italiano.	01:47
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giuseppe	ok adesso ci provo grazie mille	01:47
Tallia1Kubuntu	de nada, ciao	01:47
Tommy2k4	chavo what am i supposed to do with these .desktop files	01:47
bayer	i have a little problem with sound - after every reboot, i have to re-configure xmms(alsa) to use the correct output device (and the correct parameters)	01:48
zorgluuu	q. im upgrading a kubuntu 6.04 to 6.06, 'full upgrade' in adept. it download a lot, starting to install package. now it is stuck in 'setting flash plugin-nonfree' i looked at the 'details' terminal, it doesnt ask any question or anything. any suggestion ?	01:48
h3sp4wn	Tallia1Kubuntu: It is not impossible to see it working properly - try the kororaa live cd and you will see it working properly (then maybe work out what they did and do it yourself)	01:48
Tallia1Kubuntu	h3sp4wn: yeah, but on a laptop and with kubuntu.. don't think it will be fast enough	01:49
h3sp4wn	What video card ?	01:49
Tallia1Kubuntu	i will try anyway, and i will let you know.. it's a laptop of a friend of mine	01:49
Tallia1Kubuntu	a VAIO, with 128MB ram	01:49
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Tallia1Kubuntu	of video card, an nvidia, can't remember the model.... but he just bought the notebook	01:49
h3sp4wn	Check the video card type in the xgl card compatibility thing (if its nvidia you may be in look - 128mb of video ram ?	01:50
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bayer	anyone?	01:50
Tallia1Kubuntu	h3sp4wn: yeah	01:50
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zorgluuu	adept put aside, what are the other apps to upgrade packages ?	01:51
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zorgluuu	i did ctrl-c in the adept 'details' terminal and adept went down :)	01:52
h3sp4wn	TalliaKubuntu: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389 - the best repositories are those - then try getting kde working with it from a ubuntu guide (you could rebuild the source with -sse)	01:52
zorgluuu	damn dpkg --configure -a is stuck too on Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ...	01:53
zorgluuu	did ctrl-c again and this time dpkg goes on :)	01:53
giuseppe	nn va come mai	01:54
zorgluuu	is there a way i could remove this flashplugin-nonfree ?	01:54
Tommy2k4	in session manager it says on login i can load a manually saved session, where do i go to save a session?	01:54
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serenity	hi	01:55
serenity	is anyone of you using manDVD?	01:55
Tallia1Kubuntu	!ssh	01:56
ubotu	rumour has it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH	01:56
zorgluuu	!flshplugin	01:56
ubotu	Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zorgluuu	01:56
zorgluuu	!flashplugin	01:56
ubotu	zorgluuu: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	01:56
zorgluuu	ok	01:56
giuseppe	tallia nn va inpossibile eseguire il comando specificato	01:57
giuseppe	ke posso fare mi butto dal balcone	01:57
zorgluuu	giuseppe, in english it would help :)	01:57
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[Surge]	How do I set the default view for konqueror for automount devices? It keeps opening them in icon view which is getting really annoying. Default folders work fine (tree view)	01:58
zorgluuu	giuseppe, or in #kubuntu-es	01:58
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square_head	Hi there.	01:59
square_head	I changed the date and now I can't sudo anymore	01:59
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square_head	sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 17 17:05:59 2006	01:59
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zorgluuu	square_head, easy solution, reboot	02:00
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Tommy2k4	im sure yesterday ctrl +f4 used to minimize everything but now it doesnt o_o	02:00
accu	no today that's ctrl-f5	02:01
accu	guess what tomorrow will bring	02:01
ubuntu	linux noob here thinking about switching distros ubuntu looks pretty easy for beginners	02:01
square_head	zorgluuu, but I know my root password can't I do something without rebooting :P ?	02:01
Tommy2k4	yea it is	02:01
ubuntu	im running suse 10.1 now	02:01
zorgluuu	square_head, yep but it is much harder	02:01
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Tommy2k4	is ubuntu as good as xp about usb drives so i can unplug it at any time without risking losing data	02:02
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h3sp4wn	Tommy2k4: No you shouldn't do that in xp either	02:04
[Surge]	Tommy2k4: I've had no problems. Unplugging the drive while you're copying files is a bad idea though! :)	02:04
Tommy2k4	well id never do it while files are in use lol	02:05
h3sp4wn	Tommy2k4: I will give you an example - copying files to a usb mp3 player unless you unmount it all the files will not actually be on the disk even the copy will have appeared to finish	02:05
slow-motion	bbl	02:05
square_head	"There are about two thousand software developers in Windows today."	02:06
square_head	omfgf	02:06
square_head	http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archive/2006/06/14/631438.aspx	02:06
Tommy2k4	why is that	02:06
Tommy2k4	xp has never had that problem	02:06
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h3sp4wn	usb devices are mounted async I think that is the reason	02:06
Tommy2k4	k	02:07
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h3sp4wn	I ended up with when ever you got thru a quarter of a song it changed back to what was on there previously (only once though)	02:07
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slow-motion	re	02:08
[Surge]	Tommy2k4: Anyway it's not much work to "Safetly Remove" in kubuntu and whatever it's called in XP.	02:08
Tommy2k4	i know im sure ill get used to it	02:09
Tommy2k4	i used to use win2k on this pc and you have to safely remove it on there aswell	02:09
Tommy2k4	not xp though	02:09
h3sp4wn	You can set amarok 1.4 to mount and unmount the thing for you and hence do a sync	02:09
h3sp4wn	You are supposed to do it with xp	02:09
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Tommy2k4	need to make it auto mount the usb drive now when i plug it in	02:10
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Tommy2k4	would i use fstab for that	02:11
slidehack	Hello .......... I have a problem and my english is not very good ....... please speek someone Roamnian	02:11
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slidehack	pls pls pls	02:11
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Tommy2k4	your english doesnt seem that bad	02:12
slidehack	ooooo thank you ........ but i know english for mee ....... I have one problem with Apache	02:12
Tommy2k4	i dunno anything about apache	02:13
slidehack	when i put the html filles into /var/www/ and i start apache it is show me the index and i want to start in first page	02:13
slidehack	can help me someone ?	02:13
DeadS0ul	slidehack: what're you trying to do?	02:14
DeadS0ul	brb,	02:14
DeadS0ul	i'm gonna draw a tattoo on my nephews arm	02:14
slidehack	an site	02:14
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square_head	back with some other questions	02:14
square_head	How can I reset Kwallet's password?	02:14
slidehack	in few days I will make an name for my IP and i wil have an ftp and apache	02:14
square_head	How can I modify when I press CTRL + BACKSPACE to dont exit X :\|	02:15
[Surge]	Hmmm ... slidehack didn't stay long enough for an answer.	02:17
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DeadS0ul	I drew a 'MOM' with a heart aroudn it on my 1 1/2 year old nephew	02:18
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Leqtic	Can someone help me with Kismet :/ ?	02:28
Tommy2k4	Is there a way to change the system menu so that when I click on storage media it takes me to /media/ not storage:/media	02:28
Tommy2k4	i mean system:/media	02:28
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uniq	leqtic: what's the problem?	02:28
Leqtic	Tommy2k4: Create ur own	02:28
jme__	cest quoi kismet ?	02:28
Tommy2k4	how do i edit the system menu	02:28
Leqtic	uniq: I can't make it funciton correctly	02:28
jme__	sorrry, what is kismet	02:28
Leqtic	It won't start and I have read the readme.	02:28
jme__	(several channels in multiple language is hard sometime :)	02:29
Leqtic	jme__: apt-get kismet :)	02:29
uniq	jme__: it's a wireless-network scanner thing.	02:29
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jme__	uniq: ok thanks	02:29
Leqtic	Tommy2k4: right click and make a new shortcut to /media/	02:29
Leqtic	I love Linux, I really do, but does it have to be so hard to get some applikation to work :/	02:29
Leqtic	applications*	02:29
Leqtic	uniq: Will you help me ?	02:30
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uniq	leqtic: what's the error message? what wlan card do you have? what driver does it use?	02:30
Leqtic	I don't know what driver it use but I know it's a ra0	02:30
Leqtic	RAlink 2500/2600	02:30
uniq	ok, rt2500 probably then.	02:30
DeadS0ul	Leqtic it's free software, and not used that much, ...they take a while to get right =\	02:30
Leqtic	DeadS0ul: ah you changed ur nickname :)	02:31
Leqtic	uniq: okay, so i go to /usr/etc/kismet.conf ?	02:31
Leqtic	uniq: and change there.	02:31
Tommy2k4	Leqtic: right click on the menu?	02:31
Leqtic	Tommy2k4: first do it on the desktop then move it	02:31
DeadS0ul	I did?	02:31
DeadS0ul	must	02:31
DeadS0ul	must've reconnected	02:31
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Leqtic	uniq: media:/sda5/etc/kismet	02:32
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Leqtic	uniq: will u help me tell me what to change there and what to write.	02:32
uniq	leqtic: yes, edit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf, find the source= line, and set it to: 'source=rt2500,ra0,wifi'	02:32
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jme__	be gratefull guys he does it for free	02:33
Tommy2k4	k i have the shortcut on the desktop	02:33
uniq	thanks jme__ :)	02:33
n3storm	hi everyone	02:33
jme__	uniq: serious you even do step by step on very specific stuff like configuring a given wifi card :)	02:34
Leqtic	uniq: thanks	02:34
Leqtic	# YOU MUST CHANGE THIS TO BE THE SOURCE YOU WANT TO USE	02:34
Leqtic	source=rt2500,ra0,wifi	02:34
jme__	thanks to you :)	02:34
Leqtic	thank you uniq, gonna see if it works :D	02:34
Leqtic	I LOVE LINUX :D (once again)	02:34
square_head	I love linux too :P	02:35
Leqtic	HELL YEAH	02:35
Leqtic	IT OWRKS	02:35
Leqtic	sorry caps	02:35
Leqtic	:D	02:35
uniq	great :)	02:35
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DeadS0ul	hah	02:37
h3sp4wn	Leqtic: Are you using wpa2 on your rt2500 ?	02:38
Leqtic	h3sp4wn: ?	02:39
Leqtic	Im not using my wireless to surf atm.	02:39
Leqtic	wpa2 is an encryption right?	02:39
h3sp4wn	Yes	02:39
Tommy2k4	how do i rm a directory	02:39
Leqtic	Im mainly gonna have it as a protection, as you see some neighbour has taken photos at our "fence".. and reported them to the governement cuz they are too tall, and u need permission.	02:39
chavo	Tommy2k4, rm -r	02:39
Leqtic	Therefore, im gonna keep a lookout for the coward pathetic lowlife that took the photos	02:39
Tommy2k4	ty	02:40
Leqtic	uniq:	02:41
Leqtic	does kismet save anything on ur harddrive?	02:41
Leqtic	like logs or stuff, need to remove them.	02:41
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I_Died_Once	Hi people	02:42
I_Died_Once	I'm experiencing a weird problem	02:42
I_Died_Once	A program has my packaging database system locked	02:43
uniq	leqtic: yes, it logs everything to /var/log/kismet/	02:43
Leqtic	thanks uniq :)	02:43
I_Died_Once	I've tried rebooting and i get the same message that the database is in use by another program	02:43
I_Died_Once	apt-get is not running, nor is synaptic	02:44
uniq	leqtic: you might also want to use 'shred' to delete them, if you want to delete them securely.	02:44
Leqtic	uniq: nah	02:44
Leqtic	just remove them so they won't take space :=)	02:44
I_Died_Once	or anything else, but when i try to run adept, it still tells me the database is locked	02:44
Leqtic	got linux on a small partition..	02:44
I_Died_Once	is there a way to find out which program is using it?	02:44
uniq	leqtic: ah, ok :)	02:45
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I_Died_Once	using Ksysguard, there is no apt-get running, or adept, or synaptic	02:45
I_Died_Once	but i need to install programs, and this database is locked	02:45
I_Died_Once	any ideas?	02:45
uniq	i_died_once: start konsole from the menu. and run this command' fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'	02:46
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uniq	i_died_once: i forgot to add sudo, the command is 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'	02:46
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I_Died_Once	did nothing	02:46
I_Died_Once	or, did that unlock my database?	02:47
uniq	maybe, try 'sudo apt-get update'	02:47
I_Died_Once	nope, still locked	02:47
Tommy2k4	how do i use kcontrol autostart	02:47
visik7	kubuntu ubiquity is bugged	02:47
visik7	it support the half of the fs of ubuntu ubiquityh	02:48
visik7	and crash frequently	02:48
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I_Died_Once	yeah, but I hate gnome	02:48
uniq	i_died_once: ok, try: 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' (this time without the -i)	02:48
I_Died_Once	not NEARLY as configurable	02:48
visik7	I_Died_Once: me too	02:48
visik7	I_Died_Once: infact I'm trying the alternate cd	02:48
uniq	i_died_once: if anything at all is using the dpkg database, the first command i gave you should ask you if you want to kill it. If it doesn't ask for anything nothing is using the dpkg database.	02:51
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I_Died_Once	that first command	02:52
uniq	i_died_once: if you could paste the error message you get if you try 'sudo apt-get update' on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com that would be helpful for me to help you solve your problem.	02:52
I_Died_Once	sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock	02:52
Adam_eM	hi there	02:52
I_Died_Once	does nothing, just brings me back to the prompt	02:52
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Adam_eM	i just wanted to install some packages, but synaptic freezed during install so i terminated it. Now it says i should do dpkg --configure -a but it doesnt worl as well	02:53
uniq	adam_em: in konsole try the command 'sudo dpkg --configure -a', if it gives an error message, please paste it to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com	02:54
I_Died_Once	not sure what exactly did it, but its unlocked now	02:55
I_Died_Once	woot	02:55
I_Died_Once	thx uniq	02:55
I_Died_Once	et all	02:55
uniq	i_died_once: the command did it, save it to a notes.txt for later use :)	02:55
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I_Died_Once	...and I see it was the Ksetiathome package	02:56
Adam_eM	uniq: it only says 'configuring flashplugin-nonfree...' but it takes ages, and nothing actually happens	02:56
I_Died_Once	it was trying to resolve a connection to the seti at home site	02:57
uniq	adam_em: just wait some minutes.	02:57
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Adam_eM	uniq: are you sure it does anything ? My harddrive's led doesn't even blinks	02:58
jonatan	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15856 <-- Any sugestions ?	02:59
uniq	adam_em: not sure, but if you stop it you won't get anywhere closer to a solution. It must be configured.	02:59
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Adam_eM	ok i'll wait then	03:00
uniq	jonatan: what driver is this? fglrx?	03:00
jonatan	uniq, nvidia	03:01
jonatan	nv works, nvidia gives the above	03:01
jonatan	uniq: it all worked fine until last friday's update	03:01
jonatan	uniq: that is, yesterday	03:01
uniq	jonatan: it's looking for a kernel module that's not loaded... I'm on ati so i would have to search the web.. just hang on.	03:02
slow-motion	re	03:02
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uniq	jonatan: do you use the nvidia-glx driver, or the nvidia-glx-legacy driver?	03:05
jonatan	uniq: nvidia-glx	03:05
uniq	jonatan: please run this in console: 'dmesg\|grep -n nvrm'	03:06
jonatan	uniq: ok, hang on	03:06
jonatan	uniq: no output	03:06
uniq	do you get something like "NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module.."	03:06
jonatan	nope	03:06
jonatan	nothing it appears	03:06
jonatan	it seems to exit cleanly as far as I can tell	03:07
uniq	ok, try 'sudo modprobe nvidia'	03:07
uniq	and then 'dmesg\|grep -n nvrm'	03:08
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jonatan	uniq: FATAL module nvidia not found	03:08
uniq	ah. ok.	03:08
jonatan	the package is installed tho : /	03:09
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pmyteh	I've just installed kubuntu on top of my existing ubuntu installation and I'm having trouble with my KDE display settings - can anyone offer any advice?	03:10
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accu	jonatan: try sudo depmod -a	03:12
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pmyteh	I seem to have got a 1024x768 display, but a much larger desktop - and I can't find anything in the control panel to reconfigure.	03:12
jonatan	accu no output	03:12
uniq	jonatan: do you have the latest linux-restricted-modules installed?	03:12
accu	thats ok. now try sudo modprobe nvidia	03:13
jonatan	uniq: uhm, I dunno	03:13
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uniq	jonatan: you could also try 'dpkg -S nvidia.ko'	03:13
uniq	to check if you have the nvidia module available at all.	03:13
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jonatan	ok thats doing /something/	03:14
jonatan	uhm, ok	03:14
jonatan	nvidia.ko not found	03:14
jonatan	I take it thats bad then ...	03:14
uniq	no module named nvidia then.	03:14
uniq	try to install linux-restricted-modules-386 if you have a 386 kernel.	03:15
jonatan	No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.	03:15
uniq	I have to go now, going out for pizza with the family. See you guys.	03:15
jonatan	ok, thanks for the help	03:15
uniq	do you have the restricted repositories enabled?	03:16
uniq	'apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules' pick the one that matches your kernel.	03:16
uniq	really have to go now, bye.	03:16
jonatan	bye	03:16
Tommy2k4	!opers	03:17
ubotu	Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tommy2k4	03:17
Tommy2k4	!opera	03:17
ubotu	download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser	03:17
jonatan	oh ok, THAT woudl explain it	03:17
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jonatan	I have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 but runing 2.6.15-25-386	03:18
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Tommy2k4	how do i install a .deb	03:21
Tommy2k4	i really need to stop forgetting these basic commands :(	03:21
Tommy2k4	!deb	03:21
Doat	can i make it so that konsole makes links from urls? (for irssi)	03:21
Hobbsee	sudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.dev	03:22
Hobbsee	sudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb	03:22
Tommy2k4	got it :)	03:22
Hobbsee	:)	03:22
Tommy2k4	i also need to stop forgetting to end the program before upgrading it >_<	03:22
Tommy2k4	(process:7013): CRITICAL : egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed	03:24
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Tommy2k4	whats that mean?	03:24
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n3storm	hi jpatrick	03:27
jpatrick	hi n3storm	03:27
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tadas	hello	03:28
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Tommy2k4	help i get an error when installing a .deb :'(	03:29
tadas	has anyone running kubuntu on ASUS ?	03:29
Hobbsee	Tommy2k4: pastebin the error	03:29
Tommy2k4	just 1 line	03:29
Tommy2k4	(process:7013): CRITICAL : egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed	03:29
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charlie5	hulloo ... is there any advantage in installing from source packages rather than the binary ones ?	03:30
tadas	faster and customizing	03:30
Hobbsee	charlie5: no	03:30
Hobbsee	Tommy2k4: ack. which deb was that?	03:30
Tommy2k4	latest opera daily	03:30
ctothej	Imagery: looking to buy a printer/scanner, is there a specific brand that is most compatible with linux? how is the lexmark support?	03:31
tadas	how do enable or disable my touchpad with ksynaptics?	03:31
Tommy2k4	opera-static_9.0-20060616.1-qt_en_i386.deb	03:31
tadas	currently it doesnt work.	03:31
Hobbsee	Tommy2k4: did it actually fail, or just spit that out?	03:31
Tommy2k4	spat that out then nothing else	03:32
charlie5	so if i have a pentium iv, it would prob be better to use source packages for better performance ?	03:32
Tommy2k4	maybe i should check if it actually upgraded :p	03:32
tadas	if u like compiling - yes	03:32
Hobbsee	charlie5: not really - it takes so long to compile anyway	03:32
Tommy2k4	ooh silly me it still upgraded :p	03:32
Tommy2k4	i guess i should just ignore the error	03:32
Hobbsee	charlie5: were you using the 686 kernel?	03:33
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charlie5	Hobbsee: just the vanilla kernel at the moment ... i was thinking of getting the i686 SMP kernel, or maybe trying to compile my own kernel (shudder ;)	03:34
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Hobbsee	charlie5: the linux-image-686 is compiled for performance for p4 etc systems	03:35
charlie5	Hobbsee: i'll give it shot, for sure	03:37
charlie5	<it a shot>	03:37
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Imagery	ctothej: why are you asking me?	03:39
Hobbsee	charlie5: cool :)	03:39
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Tommy2k4	my desktop and kopete have sorta froze :s	03:48
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Child4Christ	hi :)	03:51
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Tommy2k4	can i change icon of .desktop files	03:51
Tommy2k4	nvm found it	03:51
Child4Christ	i know you can change the engine in amaroK just not sure how, anyone know how to?	03:51
Hobbsee	Tommy2k4: killall kdesktop	03:52
Tommy2k4	Child4Christ: configure > engine	03:52
Child4Christ	yea i did that but the only selectable one is xine an that one freaks out	03:52
I_Died_Once	this looks like one of the better distro chats	03:55
I_Died_Once	i had problems on suse, and again on mandrake... and all the help you could get was "read the documentation"	03:55
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I_Died_Once	"read the docs!" "read the FAQ" and that was all they'd say	03:56
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abattoir	Child4Christ: you need to install other engines	03:56
I_Died_Once	you guys are great	03:56
Child4Christ	yea but umm, how?	03:56
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abattoir	Child4Christ: open up adept	03:56
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Child4Christ	my eyes bled readin the site but it didnt tell you how to install another engine :(	03:56
I_Died_Once	I can anaswer the amarok one!	03:56
Child4Christ	i can only use apt-get	03:56
Hobbsee	I_Died_Once: well, sometimes that is the answer :P	03:56
abattoir	Child4Christ: type amarok in the search bar, you should see the engine options	03:57
Child4Christ	logged in remotely to my box at home	03:57
I_Died_Once	ok child4christ... from amarok	03:57
Hobbsee	I_Died_Once: for some of the really simple stuff, anyway	03:57
I_Died_Once	click on settings, then to configure amarok	03:57
I_Died_Once	that shouldopen a new little window	03:57
abattoir	Child4Christ: one sec, i'll tell you the exact package names	03:57
I_Died_Once	on the left panel in that new window, click on engines	03:58
I_Died_Once	there should be a drop down menu and it should be there	03:58
I_Died_Once	if not.... close amarok, exit out... then open up adept	03:58
I_Died_Once	type in amarok in the search and install all the packages it gives you	03:58
abattoir	Child4Christ: depending on the amarok release, other engines may or may not be available.	03:59
I_Died_Once	once thats done, go back to amarok and the engines should be there	03:59
Child4Christ	its 1.4 or 14 :)	03:59
abattoir	Child4Christ: try 'apt-get'ting amarok-gstreamer or amarok-helix	03:59
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abattoir	Child4Christ: amarok-arts too	04:00
I_Died_Once	Chris Tucker: You were great in "Rush Hour"	04:00
Child4Christ	arts has broken packages	04:00
I_Died_Once	I can't say enought good stuff about the xine engine for amarok	04:01
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Child4Christ	xine is what freaks out	04:01
Child4Christ	it says it cant initialise audio-devices but happily contines playin till you click ok or w/e on one of the multiple erro boxes for the same thing then amarok dies :\|	04:02
Child4Christ	*error	04:02
I_Died_Once	open up a terminal and run "xine-check"	04:02
I_Died_Once	but without the quotes	04:02
abattoir	Child4Christ: afaik, only xine and arts engine packages are available in the official repos...	04:03
abattoir	Child4Christ: for gstreamer, helix, i think you should compile yourself	04:03
I_Died_Once	and since you're a child for christ, and using amarok... I'm looking for some older "Carman" and Petra mp3's	04:04
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Child4Christ	you like carman?	04:06
Child4Christ	they're usually played on the radios :)	04:07
Child4Christ	gtg though thx for the help, cyas in a bit :)	04:07
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I_Died_Once	not the older stuff	04:07
Tommy2k4	hm i only have 3mb ram free	04:10
Tommy2k4	does linux apps try to use as much ram is possible?	04:10
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N30PsYcH-e	hello	04:11
N30PsYcH-e	anyone home?	04:11
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itay	Does some one know a way to lunch a specific script befor kicker?	04:12
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itay	*someone	04:13
itay	*before	04:13
n30	can someone please help me	04:13
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itay	what is your problem dpkg_ / n30?	04:14
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n30	I used caps in ubuntu - not knowing i would be banned	04:14
n30	(was just glad my prob was solved so sent shoutts out to people who helped me and got banned for using caps)	04:14
itay	what is it "caps" ?	04:14
raphink	you better talk to seveas then n30	04:15
n30	capital letters	04:15
itay	oh	04:15
n30	hmm	04:15
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itay	I don't think you were banned	04:16
n30	I am	04:16
itay	n30	04:16
n30	it says	04:16
n30	you are banned from ubuntu	04:16
n30	You are banned from this channel.	04:16
itay	you mean ubuntu #channel right ?	04:16
raphink	n30: talk to seveas	04:16
raphink	:p	04:16
n30	yes	04:16
n30	i sent a mesage to seveas	04:16
n30	no reply	04:16
raphink	are you identified on the network?	04:16
n30	yes	04:17
itay	I don't know n30	04:17
raphink	n30 then wait	04:17
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itay	what irc client do u use n3o ?	04:18
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n3o	im using chatzilla	04:18
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n3o	well	04:18
JavaByte	hey	04:18
itay	hey JavaByte	04:18
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coreymon77	hi everybody	04:19
coreymon77	i got a question	04:19
neopsyche	so can anyone here help me with my problem?	04:19
[Surge]	Tommy2k4: Yes the kernel uses as much as possible but most of it will probably be cached data.	04:20
itay	Does someone know how to lunch a program before kicker ?	04:20
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coreymon77	everytime i start up kubuntu i have to type sudo iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d to get my internet to work	04:20
neopsyche	I cant seem to get through	04:21
neopsyche	to seveas	04:21
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[Surge]	Tommy2k4: If you do a "free" you'll see where the memory is being used.	04:21
coreymon77	anyone know how i could get t hat command ti run automatically on boot	04:21
neopsyche	I dont know how this server works	04:21
JavaByte	i'm on a live CD atm as my install is forked - i updated yesterday (full update - 50 packages) and now i get no KDE - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg give me "xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"	04:21
JavaByte	what can i do?	04:21
neopsyche	can anyone unban me from ubuntu?	04:21
neopsyche	or can someone here help me with my linux problem?	04:21
neopsyche	I installed ubuntu on my old p1	04:21
coreymon77	guys	04:22
coreymon77	anyone know what i could do	04:22
neopsyche	but when i installed it had no mouse attatched	04:22
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neopsyche	so now the mouse isnt working when i plugged it in	04:22
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neopsyche	can anyone unban me from ubuntu?	04:22
JavaByte	coreymon77: is that to authenticate on a wireless sever	04:22
neopsyche	no response from seveas	04:22
[Surge]	neopsyche: Bans are normally temporary - what was the ban message?	04:23
neopsyche	You are banned from this channel.	04:23
Tommy2k4	total used free shared buffers cached	04:23
Tommy2k4	Mem: 255156 253076 2080 0 1196 73416	04:23
neopsyche	(for using caps)	04:23
Tommy2k4	so do i technically have 75mb free if needed	04:23
coreymon77	javabyte: yes it is	04:24
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[Surge]	Tommy2k4: Yes - it'll use the cached RAMif it needs it.	04:24
coreymon77	Javabyte: all i want is for that command to run automatically on boot	04:24
Tommy2k4	kk	04:24
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coreymon77	javabyte: how would i do that	04:25
JavaByte	you should be able to set it up in a network profile	04:25
JavaByte	system settings - network settings - network profiles - create new	04:26
neopsyche	can anyone help me set up my mouse?	04:27
neopsyche	it seems it wasnt installed	04:27
neopsyche	when i did the installation	04:27
neopsyche	the mouse was removed	04:28
neopsyche	I thought i could add it later	04:28
neopsyche	it doesnt seem to be working now	04:28
neopsyche	what do i have to do to get it working	04:28
neopsyche	anyone have any ideas?	04:28
neopsyche	im in shell at the moment	04:29
neopsyche	very new to linux	04:29
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JavaByte	neopsyche: goto system settings - mouse	04:31
JavaByte	what do you see there?	04:31
coreymon77	JavaByte: what do i do	04:31
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JavaByte	coreymon77: create a new profile call it default - then create another and call it test	04:33
coreymon77	?	04:33
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JavaByte	so that you can safely change settings	04:35
coreymon77	how do i do that	04:35
coreymon77	i have my default account	04:35
coreymon77	coreymon	04:35
coreymon77	that i am using right now	04:35
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coreymon77	that i signed into	04:35
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JavaByte	nm - i gotta go	04:35
coreymon77	f**ck	04:35
raphink	sudo adduser default	04:35
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Hobbsee	coreymon77: what happened?	04:35
soulrider	hi everyone	04:35
raphink	will create an account for user "default"	04:35
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soulrider	uhm i need to help	04:36
coreymon77	Hobbsee: in order to authenticate my wireless	04:36
soulrider	yesterday i decided to get kubuntu	04:36
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soulrider	but i wanna run it live, and not install it just yet	04:36
soulrider	i booted form the CD, but i dont have a live option, only install	04:37
coreymon77	i have to type in iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d every time i boot in order to get my internet working	04:37
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raphink	soulrider: sorry???	04:37
Hobbsee	soulrider: did you download the cd, or the install cd?	04:37
soulrider	the CD i think :-/	04:37
coreymon77	what i want is for that to be exectued on boot	04:37
raphink	soulrider: are you using the kubuntu 6.06 desktop CD?	04:37
soulrider	hang on	04:37
soulrider	let me get the label	04:37
Hobbsee	coreymon77: you should be able to specify that in /etc/network/interfaces - and if that's your keyID, you may now want to change it	04:37
soulrider	what i got was this kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso	04:38
raphink	soulrider: this is not the one you want	04:38
raphink	you want the desktop iso	04:38
soulrider	oh >.<	04:38
soulrider	what i got was the installer?	04:38
raphink	you got the text installer	04:39
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raphink	the desktop CD is both live and installer	04:39
soulrider	whoch is even worse... right?	04:39
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soulrider	oh	04:39
soulrider	duh	04:39
soulrider	im sucha tard.	04:39
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soulrider	i must have chosen the wrong torrent	04:39
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coreymon77	hobbsee: how would i do that	04:39
raphink	soulrider: right	04:39
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Hobbsee	coreymon77: have a look at how they've done it in man interfaces	04:40
raphink	soulrider: you can download from the website directly, too	04:40
soulrider	so what i want is kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso right?	04:40
raphink	yes	04:40
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soulrider	yea, but isnt BT more friendly?	04:40
soulrider	since they wont have to pay for the bandwith	04:40
raphink	sure	04:40
coreymon77	hobbsee: how do i get to it, through control center	04:41
coreymon77	>	04:41
soulrider	ill use torrent hten :)	04:41
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Hobbsee	coreymon77: through a konsole	04:41
kkathman	greetings, Hobbsee	04:41
Hobbsee	hey kkathman	04:41
coreymon77	what do i trype	04:41
coreymon77	type*	04:41
soulrider	oh well, im gonna go ahve lunch	04:41
soulrider	bye bye!	04:41
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soulrider	^^	04:41
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pcfan	does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?	04:44
coreymon77	can i get java runtime environment through apt?	04:44
pcfan	coreymon77: search java runtime in synaptic or whatever in package's descriptions	04:45
pcfan	does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?	04:46
pcfan	exit	04:46
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coreymon77	how can i install multiple things with apt (console) at once?	04:46
Hobbsee	coreymon77: sudo apt-get install package1 package 2 blah blah blah	04:46
linuxmonkey	whats new Hobbsee	04:47
Hobbsee	linuxmonkey: not a lot, looking at some bug reports, looking for some to kill off...	04:47
linuxmonkey	cool	04:47
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Hobbsee	sheehs, that's one heck of a lot of bugs.	04:49
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Raven301	How do I set Firefox as my default browser? When I click on a link Konqueror keeps coming up	04:56
Hobbsee	!tell gilligan_ about packagingguide	04:56
Hobbsee	Raven301: system settings, kde components	04:56
Raven301	Hobbsee: thank you very much	04:57
Hobbsee	Raven301: not a problem	04:57
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VincentMX	yo	05:02
VincentMX	i'm trying to watch some small movies, but i cannot play movies in Konqueror, firefox, or mozilla-browser, even after installing mozilla-mplayer	05:03
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VincentMX	or do i need to logout&login again to make mozilla-mplayer work?	05:04
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piphoe`	hey guys wats a good program for transferring files btw my kubuntu box & my xp box ??	05:06
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linuxmonkey	piphoe`: FTP	05:06
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h3sp4wn	smbmount lets you mount an xp share (you need to install smbfs first)	05:06
VincentMX	yes	05:07
VincentMX	or ftp server	05:07
Tommy2k4	VincentMX: you need the mplayerplug-in aswell as mplayer	05:08
VincentMX	install filezilla on xp, and download all files from your xp b0x to your \|_1\|\\|uX b0x	05:08
VincentMX	ok	05:08
VincentMX	thx	05:08
VincentMX	i have mplayer	05:08
piphoe`	smbfs? ok... and which program should i use in xp ?	05:08
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piphoe`	ahh ok	05:08
piphoe`	good	05:08
h3sp4wn	ncftp is a better ftp client and available in both xp and linux	05:08
piphoe`	ncftp interesting	05:09
Tommy2k4	what do people use, xchat or konversation	05:09
VincentMX	yes, but filezilla is a good win32 server	05:09
VincentMX	i prefer xchat	05:09
slow-motion	http://static.flickr.com/64/167011569_837bc20969_b.jpg	05:09
h3sp4wn	Gui ftp servers seem a little pointless	05:09
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VincentMX	true	05:10
h3sp4wn	You may as well just use the one in IIS	05:10
VincentMX	but people who use win32 are often too stupid for cli	05:10
Chris_Tucker	NO	05:10
Chris_Tucker	NO	05:10
piphoe`	does filezilla cum in both linux & windows ?	05:10
Chris_Tucker	NEVER IIS	05:10
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h3sp4wn	Chris_Tucker: If you set it up properly it can be secure	05:11
VincentMX	piphoe`: no, you need to download	05:11
VincentMX	but if you can, use a cli program	05:11
Chris_Tucker	i despise IIS so much the letters stuck out like not a sore thumb, but a missing one!	05:11
VincentMX	w00t	05:11
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VincentMX	hmm	05:13
VincentMX	nevermind about mozilla-mplayer	05:13
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VincentMX	i'm trying to watch less pr0n anyway	05:14
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VincentMX	w00t! wanadoo will become Orange	05:15
VincentMX	so my hostmask will change, and i won' t be banned from any channel anymore	05:16
VincentMX	then i can be annoying again, in #windows on EFnet	05:16
VincentMX	it' s great fun getting those pissed	05:17
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VincentMX	some old jokes can still make them angry, like saying you downloaded a game, but it said it needed windows xp or better, so you installed linux	05:18
VincentMX	maked them very pissed last time i tried	05:18
VincentMX	:)	05:18
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VincentMX	dude	05:23
VincentMX	7\|-\|1Z b0x 1z S3R10uz\|_y t00 sl0w for Kubuntu	05:24
piphoe`	VincentMX, yes ! i do the SAME thing ! :))	05:24
VincentMX	:)	05:24
piphoe`	huggies	05:24
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piphoe`	i've even gotten death threats from BOTH #windows AND #computers	05:26
piphoe`	lala	05:26
VincentMX	:)	05:26
piphoe`	bunch o rednex in those	05:26
VincentMX	it' s great fun isn' t it?	05:26
piphoe`	yes its wat i was B0rN 4	05:26
VincentMX	1\|\\|\|)33\|)	05:27
piphoe`	another great way to get deaththreats is mentioning Steve Gibson's name in those channels	05:27
VincentMX	ok	05:27
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VincentMX	who' s steve gibson?	05:27
coreymon77	guys	05:27
coreymon77	i need some more help	05:28
coreymon77	my video card	05:28
coreymon77	i need it set up	05:28
VincentMX	ok	05:28
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VincentMX	nVidea?	05:28
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coreymon77	yup	05:28
VincentMX	ATI?	05:28
VincentMX	ok	05:28
VincentMX	nVidea	05:28
coreymon77	geforce2 mx	05:28
piphoe`	gibson is an asm programmer that criticizes MS security a year BEFORE each new windows version comes out	05:28
VincentMX	old one :)	05:28
VincentMX	ok	05:28
coreymon77	yah	05:28
coreymon77	but it still runs chromium bsu and tux racer perfectly	05:29
neopsyche	can someone help me set up apache on my system ubuntu	05:29
VincentMX	ok	05:29
coreymon77	but i do admit: i neede a new one	05:29
VincentMX	brb	05:29
piphoe`	gibson is teh guy hoo wrote spinrite	05:29
coreymon77	they are just so damn expensive	05:29
VincentMX	ok	05:29
VincentMX	brb	05:30
coreymon77	i cant afford the atleast $500 it takes to get a decent one	05:30
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neopsyche	shouts out thanks ubotu for solving apache problem	05:30
piphoe`	gibson is kinda like the Aldous Huxley of computer security	05:30
VincentMX	ok	05:30
coreymon77	hopefully they will drop in price a bit, since the canadian dollar is rising a lot	05:31
VincentMX	ok	05:31
VincentMX	i'm looking for you	05:31
piphoe`	<VincentMX> ok	05:31
VincentMX	driver you need	05:31
coreymon77	neopsyche if you want to thank ubotu give him a botsnack (type !botsnack)	05:31
coreymon77	;)	05:31
VincentMX	!botsnack	05:31
ubotu	thanks vincentmx :)	05:31
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piphoe`	botsnack??	05:32
VincentMX	lol	05:32
VincentMX	a snack for a bot	05:32
VincentMX	irc bot	05:32
piphoe`	ohh haha like in da zoo !	05:32
VincentMX	automated script, that gives info and shit loke that	05:32
coreymon77	anyways vincent	05:32
coreymon77	back to my prob	05:32
VincentMX	hmm	05:32
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VincentMX	it isn' t there anymore	05:32
piphoe`	!botsnack	05:32
ubotu	:)	05:32
piphoe`	:((	05:33
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coreymon77	ive done this many times before (setting up my card) i just forget what to do	05:33
VincentMX	he smiled	05:33
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piphoe`	ohh!!	05:33
piphoe`	!bothuggie	05:33
ubotu	parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, piphoe`	05:33
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VincentMX	coreymon77: it ain't thewre no more	05:33
piphoe`	i wanna hug botty	05:33
coreymon77	???	05:33
VincentMX	the driver	05:33
coreymon77	its gotta be somewhere	05:34
VincentMX	yes	05:34
VincentMX	it used to be in apt repo	05:34
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coreymon77	we could put it in there	05:34
coreymon77	there has gotta be a 3rd party repo	05:34
coreymon77	search google	05:34
VincentMX	yes	05:35
piphoe`	!google bothug	05:35
ubotu	Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, piphoe`	05:35
Tommy2k4	How come XChat won't open a link when I click on it unless I right click on it and go open in Opera	05:35
Tommy2k4	Right clicking and going open in browser doesn't work either	05:35
coreymon77	vincent: should i search or are you gonna	05:36
VincentMX	already have	05:36
VincentMX	and found	05:36
coreymon77	oh!	05:36
VincentMX	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia	05:36
VincentMX	:)	05:36
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VincentMX	life can be so simple	05:36
VincentMX	:)	05:37
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VincentMX	piphoe`: it doesn't do alot does it?	05:37
piphoe`	:(	05:37
coreymon77	i guess i should just replace everytime it says Synaptic with adept	05:37
VincentMX	yes	05:37
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piphoe`	i wanna bot hug so bad i can taste it	05:38
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VincentMX	piphoe`: join #windows, i'm going to say the gibsone thing	05:38
VincentMX	they not responding	05:39
bob_in_florence	bif starts now to install kubuntu 6.06 on his computer ...	05:40
Chris_Tucker	bob_in_florence, it rocks... running it now, just switched 2 days ago	05:40
VincentMX	piphoe`: wtf? they ignore me	05:41
uniq	vincentmx: please don't coordinate spamming #windows from here. And spamming #windows won't do any good. Respect others please. Thanks.	05:41
VincentMX	ok	05:41
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bob_in_florence	Do I have to reformat also my /home (already bkpd!), if i had previously a non-so-good running kubuntu breezy on my comp?	05:42
uniq	bob_in_florence: no. Reformatting /home is not needed.	05:43
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Chris_Tucker	if its on a diff partition than your /, no	05:43
Chris_Tucker	just flag it as /home	05:43
CaBlGuY	!yahoo	05:43
ubotu	methinks yahoo is You can use Gaim for chatting on the Yahoo network: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/	05:43
coreymon77	is vincent still here	05:44
Chris_Tucker	!sucks	05:44
ubotu	I guess sucks is a word you should NOT use in #ubuntu	05:44
Chris_Tucker	Lol!	05:44
Chris_Tucker	no yahoo sucks..	05:44
CaBlGuY	!blowme	05:44
ubotu	CaBlGuY: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	05:44
uniq	nor #kubuntu please.	05:44
VincentMX	coreymon77: yesd	05:44
CaBlGuY	:)	05:44
Chris_Tucker	uniq, i love kubuntu, yahoo sucks	05:44
coreymon77	vincent: how do i know which linux image i am using	05:44
niekie	Anyone experienced kbtobexsrv segfaulting when you receive some files via Bluetooth and you click right next to a received file in the received files box?	05:45
Chris_Tucker	coreymon77, uname -r	05:45
Chris_Tucker	in a command terminal coreymon77	05:45
VincentMX	uname -r in konsole	05:45
visik7	if I have a complex table partition kubuntu ubiquity crash or mess up the partition table	05:46
coreymon77	okay	05:46
visik7	comlex = 2 primary and 1 logical	05:46
coreymon77	its the 386 one	05:46
coreymon77	but which one of those	05:46
VincentMX	are you using dapper?	05:47
Chris_Tucker	coreymon77, paste the whole line	05:47
Chris_Tucker	2.x.x-xx	05:47
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VincentMX	then it's probably 2.6.15	05:47
uniq	visik7: please report it to https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/+package	05:47
coreymon77	there is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386	05:47
coreymon77	oh	05:48
Chris_Tucker	coreymon77, match the version you have	05:48
Chris_Tucker	uname -r produces 2.x.xx-xx	05:48
h3sp4wn	Anyone have an experience of troubleshooing hostapd	05:48
Chris_Tucker	with a cpu version after	05:48
Chris_Tucker	just match the exact number	05:48
coreymon77	i just noticed that my uname -r thing says 2.6.15-25-386 so thats my answer right?	05:48
kijutsu	I want to see about using the nvidia driver that's not included with X. The official driver form nvidia that doesn't suck. Is it in adept or do i have to manually install it?	05:48
Chris_Tucker	coreymon77, yes	05:48
VincentMX	hmm	05:49
Chris_Tucker	visik7, strange, i have 3 primary, and two logical, and all works fine here in dapper	05:49
bob_in_florence	would you have one or two partitions for / and /home, on a 80G hd recent laptop?	05:50
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coreymon77	okay	05:50
Chris_Tucker	bob_in_florence, your choice, seperate is good for saftey of your files in a crash... and together is fine in general	05:50
coreymon77	im restarting x now	05:50
coreymon77	lets see if it worked?	05:50
uniq	bob_in_florence: on laptops with small disks i use one partition for / because it'	05:50
visik7	Chris_Tucker: general problems of kubuntu ubiquity are finds by many ppl I know	05:50
coreymon77	here goes	05:51
VincentMX	kubuntu has easter egg :P : sudo apt-get install beep-media-player, turn volume to max, open your window, download some mp3 (like nirvana, or offspring), and click PLAY. it will make your neighbours quit angry	05:51
uniq	's hard to know how much space to allocate to each part. and it's a waste to have 20G free on / when /home is full.	05:51
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VincentMX	s/quit/quite	05:51
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Chris_Tucker	coreymon77, luck?	05:52
Chris_Tucker	i guess not	05:52
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coreymon77	umm	05:53
coreymon77	i didnt see the nvidia logo	05:53
bob_in_florence	Thks. so i'll keep one partition, and tell you if i'm happy with it!	05:53
coreymon77	although it seems to be working fine	05:54
VincentMX	ok	05:55
VincentMX	:)	05:55
coreymon77	thankis	05:55
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VincentMX	np	05:55
coreymon77	! vincentsnack	05:55
ubotu	I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, coreymon77	05:55
coreymon77	lol :)	05:55
VincentMX	haha	05:57
iNiku	hmm. is it possible to shrink a mounted ext2/3 filesystem?	05:57
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uniq	iniku: yes, with resize2fs.	06:00
uniq	iniku: or.. mounted.. notsure.	06:00
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slow-motion	bbl	06:02
iNiku	uniq: resize2fs only does unmounted, unfortunately	06:02
iNiku	uniq: as far as I know, anyway	06:02
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VincentMX	iNiku: put it on a livecd	06:03
VincentMX	reboot	06:03
VincentMX	do it from there	06:04
VincentMX	veni vidi vici	06:04
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uniq	iniku: with -f too?	06:04
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uniq	iniku: it is probably very dangerous if it works though.	06:05
VincentMX	uniq: -f s in force?	06:05
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VincentMX	it will rpobably ruin all yo shit	06:06
VincentMX	this will break	06:06
VincentMX	things will break	06:06
VincentMX	as i said, make a livecd	06:06
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Chris_Tucker	no need to even make a livecd	06:08
Chris_Tucker	just get one and install the program in live mode	06:08
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piphoe`	i want to make my own custom unattended livecd... how do i do that ??	06:09
visik7	partition was: in phisical order hda2 hda3 hda1 (that is perfectly LEGAL!) and after create an hda5 it reorder hda1 hda2 hda3 and windows and freebsd was unable to boot!!!	06:10
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bob_in_florence	it's 10 minutes that the installer remains "scanning the mirror" at 1%.. but i double-checked the install cd	06:15
uniq	iniku: ext2resize can grow mounted partitions, not shrink though.	06:16
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soon	Hi there folks ...	06:18
soon	I'm partitioning my laptop HD for a new Kubuntu install ... Do I need a seperate /boot partition?	06:19
uniq	soon: no, you only need / and swap.	06:20
soon	thanks !	06:20
Smooph	a /boot is only a good idea if u have multiple systems on your laptop	06:21
soon	which I dont :-)	06:21
[Surge]	Having a separate partition for /home is a nice thing to have. It allows you to format and reinstall a distro or other distros without losing user data.	06:22
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Smooph	yes thats true	06:22
soon	I'll just let the installer erase my entire disk a format it as 'default'	06:22
soon	(seems to be som LVM stuff) ...	06:22
Smooph	having a laptop with 80gb split it to 20gb / and 60gb /home	06:22
[Surge]	I gave / 5GB and the rest went to /home	06:23
Smooph	5GB wasn't enough for me	06:24
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[Surge]	Really?	06:24
Smooph	i would sugest at least 10	06:24
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[Surge]	You must have installed a lot of crap. :)	06:24
soon	I see your point Smoop, and have had seperate /home partions before - however I'm now into the habit of regularly tar.gz backup'ing my entire /home to an external harddrive, so I can always just copy back after a new install ---	06:24
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mindspit	hallo all! how can i fix skype so that it uses the microphone ?	06:25
soon	btw - I tried ubuntu 3-4 months ago - it wouldnt install at all on my laptop (wouldnt boot - some ACPI stuff I suspected), but the 6.06 kubuntu runs like a dream :-)	06:25
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[Surge]	mindspit: Plug in a microphone? :P	06:25
mindspit	i use 6.06	06:26
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soon	Check KMix	06:26
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mindspit	i have a head set connected	06:26
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jaro	Hello Hello	06:26
soon	hallo	06:26
JavaByte	hey :)	06:26
jaro	I need some help with my TV Tuner	06:26
[Surge]	mindspit: check in kmix that you have the capture device set to mic (often there is also a mic boost setting)	06:26
soon	careful ... dont mention your TV tuner, or Denmarks Radio will send you a bill .... !	06:26
jaro	It works fine , as long as I boot the system... but once, I unplugged it .. it won't be detected again when I plug it back	06:27
iNiku	uniq: yeah, ext2resize can only grow a live fs :/	06:27
uniq	iniku: and you need to shrink?	06:27
iNiku	VincentMX: booting from a cd is such a pain, doing it on the fly would be so much cooler :)	06:27
[Surge]	I need a shrink too	06:27
iNiku	uniq: yep	06:27
iNiku	oh well	06:27
jaro	This worked fine some time before, but that was when the tuner itself didnt work... lol	06:27
iNiku	I was just hoping things might have changed in the past couple of years	06:27
soon	Denmarks Radio have actually managed to get it through parliment, that anyone (!) with a TV, TV-tuner, Generation 3 mobile phone or an internet connection has to pay a licensing fee to them ... !	06:27
jaro	i dont know what is wrong.. i hear about hotplug, but there is no package available	06:28
soon	...anyone in Denmark that is ...	06:28
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[Surge]	soon: Sounds like the royalities on blank CD and DVD media >:(	06:28
Iam8up	isn't there a live cd of 6.06	06:28
soon	Yeah, except this is even worse	06:28
[Surge]	s/royalities/royalties	06:28
mindspit	the problem is that skype seeting for devices defaults to /dev/dsp	06:28
soon	arguable, homeless hobbos (with an older mobile phone), doenst have to pay ,,, but everybody else does	06:29
uniq	jaro: you don't want hotplug.	06:29
jaro	ok	06:29
jaro	so what do i want ?	06:29
mindspit	and when tryin to call it says "error with your sound device"	06:29
[Surge]	mindspit: Yes Skype uses OSS - you need to use ALSA OSS emulation (which is default)	06:29
jaro	dmesg doesnt give a damn	06:29
jaro	if i plug the device in or not	06:30
uniq	jaro: what do you need? udev has taken hotplugs job in ubuntu.	06:30
[Surge]	mindspit: Have you tried switching of the sound server?	06:30
soon	I'm gonna go play some ball with my son ... be back later	06:30
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mindspit	no	06:30
mindspit	how can i do it ?	06:30
uniq	jaro: what device?	06:30
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jaro	hmm the problem is that the device wont be detected ( the green light won't go on) when I plug the USB Stick back in	06:30
jaro	TV Card	06:30
jaro	USB 2.0	06:30
uniq	soon: please disable the public away message in this channel. thanks.	06:30
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[Surge]	mindspit: settings:/Sound/	06:31
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jaro	I finally got the tv-card working itself, but only after a complete reboot	06:31
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jaro	once I plug it off.. it wont get back anymore after a plug in	06:31
[Surge]	mindspit: Then "Sound System"	06:31
[Surge]	mindspit: In konqueror - you can do it via the KDE menu too	06:32
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jaro	uniq: any idea ?	06:33
mindspit	the "network sound " option is it of interest ?	06:33
[Surge]	mindspit: Nope	06:34
[Surge]	mindspit: The problem with sound servers is that they normally grab the sound device and lock it so that no other apps can use it unless they are sound server compatible. Most cheap sound cards only have one playback device.	06:34
[Surge]	Skype doesn't know how to use a sound server	06:34
[Surge]	It's the bain of the Linux desktop - no standard way to handle sound.	06:35
iNiku	alsa is getting there.	06:35
iNiku	with automatic hw/sw mixing and all...	06:35
jaro	:(	06:36
[Surge]	Yes but it still doesn't handle multiple apps sharing the same device automatically like Windows XP.	06:36
iNiku	[Surge] : it does	06:36
jaro	anyone else who might know what do with USB reconnection ?	06:36
iNiku	that's what the mixing is about	06:36
[Surge]	No it doesn't - dmix is not enabled by default.	06:36
iNiku	[Surge] : new alsa should automatically enable dmix if the hardware doesn't do hardware mixing, shouldn't it?	06:36
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[Surge]	iNiku: I don;t know - I'm still using Breezy. :)	06:37
jaro	can anyone help?	06:38
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Iam8up	on the kubuntu installer - does the installer ask me which partitions to make/use for itself?	06:38
jaro	i cant find anything on google or stuff	06:38
iNiku	[Surge] : I have automatic mixing on my dapper laptop but I'm not entirely sure whether it's hw mixing or automatic dmix	06:38
iNiku	[Surge] : however, it works without any alsa configuration... the only problem is that it doesn't handle OSS apps without the use of aoss	06:38
GullyFoyle	what's the cmd to show waht version of an app will be installed by apt-get? i seem to remember it has 'show' in it or sumthin	06:38
[Surge]	iNiku: Yeah that's a pain. Skype is one such app.	06:39
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[Surge]	OSS must die!	06:39
mindspit	i used skype with my wine installation and it works!	06:39
mindspit	:(	06:39
iNiku	[Surge] : indeed. and AFAIK skype won't even work with aoss	06:39
Iam8up	mindspit - neat =)	06:39
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GullyFoyle	apt-cache show? grr i guess i gotta wade thru the manpage	06:40
[Surge]	mindspit: Skype works perfectly here once I disabled the sound servers.	06:40
mindspit	i do not believe that! so dissapointing ... its very very slow !	06:40
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uniq	jaro: sorry, had to get the kid to bed.	06:41
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mindspit	how can i dissable all sound servers?	06:41
iNiku	[Surge] : but it will block the sound device while it's running	06:41
JavaByte	!mp3	06:41
ubotu	from memory, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	06:41
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uniq	gullyfoyle: apt-cache policy package, or apt-cache madison package	06:42
[Surge]	mindspit: Did you open "settings:/Sound/" in konqueror?	06:42
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jaro	uniq: ah ok..	06:43
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jaro	uniq: can we figure it out now ?	06:43
[Surge]	mindspit: Open "Sound Servers" in settings:/Sound/ and then uncheck the "Enable the sound system" checkbox.	06:44
uniq	jaro: can you open a konsole and paste the output of "lsmod" to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com please.	06:44
mindspit	yes ... it is there .... skype is working thta way	06:44
jaro	ok	06:44
bogo	how do I change the system's default keyboard layout? I mean, not just for X, but the whole thing	06:44
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uniq	jaro: you can also plug in and out some usb-keys or disks and then paste the output of 'dmesg' to the same address.	06:45
[Surge]	mindspit: If you want to run Skype at the same time as other sound apps you'll have to look at dmix in ALSA. It's software sound mixing.	06:45
jaro	http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715010	06:45
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iNiku	[Surge] : it won't help though, since skype uses OSS and dmix doesn't work with that.	06:46
jaro	uh oh	06:46
jaro	mouse not working anymore.. lol	06:46
iNiku	[Surge] : or if it does, please tell me how :)	06:46
ryanakca	ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" What do I do?	06:46
uniq	bogo: you have already done it for X i figure? - 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-data' for console.	06:46
[Surge]	iNiku: Oh :(	06:46
iNiku	[Surge] : skype can be tricked into using alsa by running it via aoss, but AFAIK that will break skype. works with many other OSS apps, though	06:47
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uniq	ryanakca: try your own username/password. not cups.	06:47
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[Surge]	mindspit: Well there's your answer - Skype's sound interface sucks. :)	06:47
[Surge]	As do all OSS reliant apps ...	06:47
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uniq	jaro: ok, output of lsmod looks good, you have the correct usb-modules loaded.	06:48
bogo	uniq: no I haven't, I want to change it globaly	06:48
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jaro	ok	06:48
jaro	dmesg coming	06:48
mindspit	ok guys thanks ! thank you vey much! here in greece it is a beatifull day! :)	06:48
ryanakca	uniq: nope	06:48
uniq	bogo: you can't, you'll have to change it once for console, and once for X.	06:49
jaro	uniq: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715019	06:49
bogo	uniq: and how do I change it for X and not only KDE?	06:49
jaro	uniq: mouse plugoff only resulted in mouse not working but still alight	06:49
uniq	[surge] : can't you use the snd-pcm-oss module?	06:49
mindspit	how can i send private messages like you do to me ?	06:50
mindspit	from konversation	06:50
jaro	uniq: and wont be registered by dmesg	06:50
mindspit	i have another question comming	06:50
GullyFoyle	if i just use plain old apt-get install 'pkg' will it automatically upgrade to a newer version or do i need a different flag or cmd or something?	06:51
jaro	mindspit: doubleclick on user in list	06:51
bogo	mindspit: right-click on the person and select 'Open Query'	06:51
mindspit	i have a Qcam usb pc camera "#lsusb" returns "Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:612f Microdia"	06:51
iNiku	[Surge] : just tried it, get no sound at all from skype using aoss.	06:51
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bogo	mindspit: or you can just type '/msg nickname message'	06:52
iNiku	uniq: OSS apps cannot be dmixed, that's the issue	06:52
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mindspit	no not private messages .... just here for example i see something like "[19:51] <jaro> mindspit: doubleclick on user in list"!	06:52
iNiku	uniq: they will hog the audio device	06:52
bogo	does anyone know how to configure the keyboard layout for X? I've noticed that the settings panel only deals with KDE	06:53
iNiku	uniq: if you trick them into using alsa by running them via aoss, dmix works... but skype doesn't work with aoss.	06:53
uniq	bogo: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in you favourite text editor, as root (with sudo in front of the command) Find the keyboard section, and change XkbLayout to the two letter code of your layout. :)	06:53
bogo	uniq: and where do I get a list of these abreviations?	06:53
uniq	iniku: ah, i wasn't aware of that. :)	06:54
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jaro	uniq: got the dmesg ?	06:55
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jaro	mindspit: type the beginning of nick and press TAB.. then type the normal message, it will be highlighted	06:56
uniq	jaro: got it, reading now.	06:56
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uniq	bogo: list? well you can open /usr/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86, that's a list of layouts. but it's not a reader friendly list. And don't change the file, read it without sudo privileges.	06:58
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oomph	im trying to configure WPA on my wifi nic, this is my first kubuntu install	07:01
Healot	your hardware oomph?	07:01
Healot	!hardware	07:01
ubotu	hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	07:01
oomph	the wifi assistant doesnt have the option	07:01
uniq	oomph: install 'knetworkmanager' from the repositories, it's very good.	07:01
oomph	im using an IBM thinkpad	07:01
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Healot	model?	07:01
oomph	t40	07:01
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mackyman	Hello! Is there any possability to format and install Kubuntu without a CD-burner?	07:02
uniq	mackyman: what os are you currently running?	07:02
mackyman	ubuntu	07:02
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raphink	mackyman: then you don't have to install it	07:03
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raphink	unless you want to install it on another machine	07:03
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uniq	jaro: I don't know what could cause your prolem. But it seems something is crashing on you. I'm not sure why. Don't think i can help you :/	07:03
Healot	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM << what's the wifi nic btw?	07:03
mindspit	/msg jaro qcam	07:03
mackyman	But I want to format at the same time	07:03
mindspit	/msg jaro qcam: Not installed SUID or run as root. Exiting.	07:03
mindspit	/msg jaro mindspit@BeingHuman$sudo qcam	07:03
mindspit	/msg jaro Password:	07:03
mindspit	/msg jaro Qcam not found	07:03
mindspit	/msg jaro Cannot open QuickCam; exiting.	07:03
Healot	@ oomph	07:03
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jonatan	lol	07:03
oomph	im not sure what the nic is	07:03
oomph	i need to check it quickly	07:03
oomph	the OS seems to run great aside from my wifi not working	07:04
jaro	uniq: too bad	07:04
jaro	uniq: any idea where i could look for ?	07:04
oomph	installing knetworkmanager atm	07:05
uniq	jaro: hmm..	07:05
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mackyman	raphink: Shuld I just reinstall my ubuntu and the add the kubuntu-desktop, kde and kde-core packages?	07:05
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Healot	lspci >> type in this is the terminal, paste the output to pastebin.com , not to this channel or pm	07:05
mackyman	to have a fresh install?	07:05
raphink	kubuntu-desktop is enouogh	07:05
raphink	fresh install is nicer	07:05
gawa	hi all, i have a little problem with kdesu ... he don't find the su program ... it's anoying cause i set in bashrc and bash_profile the corrects paths (include /bin) ....	07:05
gawa	i searched on google but nobody know how to resolve the problem ...	07:06
jaro	ok ill be off	07:06
jaro	have to take care of the problem again later	07:06
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uniq	jaro, can you take a look at the dmesg?	07:07
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uniq	ah.. he just left. well.	07:07
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gawa	nobody know how to use kdesu when he don't find su plz ? :-/	07:08
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uniq	gawa: what did you change to break it?	07:08
gawa	i deleted sudo	07:08
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uniq	gawa: why?	07:09
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gawa	(uninstalled him with apt-get, not a rm sudo :p)	07:09
uniq	gawa: that's why kdesu doesn't work, it needs sudo.	07:09
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uniq	gawa: nice one, you just found a missing dependency :)	07:09
uniq	gawa: if you reinstall sudo it'll work.	07:09
gawa	yes, so i want to configure it to use SU and not sudo :s	07:09
uniq	hmm.. don't know if that is possible. hang on.	07:10
gawa	but i don't need sudo, i prefere un good su root !	07:10
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jonatan	uhm, does anyone know if it is "as intended" that there isn't any restricted-linux-modules for kernel 2.6.15-25 yet ?	07:11
gawa	it's like my user is root :s i don't like it ...	07:11
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Tommy2k4	!sudo	07:11
ubotu	I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.	07:11
jonatan	Reason I ask is that aptitude decided to upgrade from 2.6.15-23 which sort of broke my nvidia driver, and it doesn't seem to be packaged for 2.6.15-25 yet	07:12
uniq	gawa: i understand.	07:12
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gawa	so with sudo, why does the root account exist ??? i prefere to log in root and edit all my .conf files ! it's long to type "sudo cd, sudo vim ..., sudo TEST, sudo re-vim ....	07:13
uniq	gawa: should be able to configure. hang on a little more.	07:13
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sgorwood	hello. Can anyone tell me if kubuntu 6.06 supports suspend to ram out of the box? I can't find it in any of the menu's.	07:15
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gawa	tsss so i'll forced to use sudo ... <_< I though i could install a debian and desinstall sudo ...	07:16
byen	hey guys! Im having major stability issues with kubuntu and FF	07:16
raphink	why do you need FF?	07:16
raphink	gawa: sudo is great	07:16
raphink	gawa: once you begin to use sudo and discover what it allows you to do, you don't want to switch back to su, trust me	07:17
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gawa	it seems to me sudo is unsecure ...	07:18
gawa	just a sudo and the simple-user's password ...	07:18
geneo93	only the first user	07:19
raphink	that's not insecure	07:19
macd	the user has to be belong to the sudoers/admin group	07:19
byen	ok here goes... when ever i click any link on the FF browser...Kubuntu hangs and I have to shutoff by pressing the power button....aka WIndows style	07:19
jimmy__	thanks for the advice, knetworkmanager resolved my problem	07:19
raphink	unless your user's password is less secure than your root one	07:19
raphink	gawa: furthermore, sudo is not straight super-cow powers	07:19
macd	you shouldnt have a root password in a sudo enviornment.	07:19
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raphink	you can give special rights to special people for special actions with it	07:19
gawa	just a firefox not up to date, and a simple web-page can do anything in u'r system (if u record the passwords in memory)	07:19
raphink	its much more convenient than su for that	07:19
raphink	you can allow certain people to achieve only certain root tasks on certain hosts	07:20
raphink	using their password	07:20
jonatan	gawa, there are endless debates about wether sudo or su is more secure, but tbh its no fucking difference. You are still typing your password into a console on your user account.	07:20
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jonatan	If you are worried about security you ought to have a separate account for administrating tasks	07:21
raphink	gawa: sudo is no less secure than su, that's for sure	07:21
gawa	<macd> you shouldnt have a root password in a sudo enviornment. --< why ? :s	07:21
macd	think for a second.	07:21
macd	you dont need to be root.	07:21
jimmy__	what does sudo -i do?	07:21
raphink	gawa: otherwise, you can activate the root account, which is as easy as "sudo passwd" but it's really not worth it	07:21
raphink	&& unsecure	07:21
jonatan	gawa, if your user account gets corrupted you might have a keylogger runing, hence neither sudo or su is secure in that respect	07:21
raphink	since you add another account with all rights on the system	07:21
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raphink	jimmy__: logs you as root ;)	07:22
gawa	k but if i want ... i can ! no conflicts, no problem, until i "should use sudo"	07:22
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raphink	gawa: you should not, it's up to you	07:22
jonatan	gawa, meh, if you want a root password you can use sudo to set it , then you can use su afterwards	07:22
jimmy__	ahh	07:22
raphink	gawa: the graphical apps will still ask your own password though	07:23
raphink	cause we patched them to use sudo instead of su by default	07:23
jonatan	its a bad idea to run as root when you don't need to anyway	07:23
gawa	but it's verry boring to edit a .conf (examples : apche, samba, xorg ...) test the daemon and re-type the user password ...	07:23
jonatan	in case something cocks up the damage it can do is much more severe	07:23
raphink	gawa: ?	07:23
raphink	gawa: please read "man sudo" and come back when you know what you can do with it	07:24
jonatan	gawa, you only need to type the passwrod first time you use sudo	07:24
raphink	I don't like to do that	07:24
raphink	but really	07:24
Healot	you can edit sudoers for you not to enter password at all	07:24
raphink	sudo does more things than su, including what su does	07:24
geneo93	well it last about 10 minutes	07:24
Healot	if you feel that entering password is a boring task	07:25
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gawa	jonatan ==> and anybody can type "sudo anything he wants to do" ...	07:25
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macd	gawa: no thats not how it works.	07:25
jonatan	gawa, use sudo -k to kill it prematurely	07:25
jonatan	gawa, after you type sudo it will not ask you for a password for 10 min or so	07:25
raphink	gawa: you can set that if you want	07:25
macd	in kx/ubuntu only users in the admin group can utilize sudo.	07:25
jonatan	^^ what he said	07:25
raphink	macd: by default that is	07:26
visik7	does nvidia and hibernate works ?	07:26
raphink	gawa: man sudoers	07:26
jonatan	look if it really bothers you so damn much, just do sudo passwd and set a root password ...	07:26
gawa	what is sudo doing that su DON't do ?	07:26
raphink	/etc/sudoers is a very nice conffile	07:26
uniq	gawa: please excuse these sudo-fanatics. I agree that kdesu should support both su and sudo, and removing sudo shouldn't break your system. I'm working on figuring out how to do it, just hang on a bit.	07:26
macd	in making the point not everyone can sudo.	07:26
raphink	gawa: man sudoers	07:26
raphink	this is what sudo does that su doesn't do	07:26
Chris_Tucker	if you edit /etc/sudoers you can add a sudo-er without having them in the admin group	07:27
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raphink	gawa: e.g. : I want user toto to be able to lauch apt-get as root without entering a password, but nothing else	07:27
uniq	jonatan: please observ your language, no need to be over excited because you like sudo and others don't.	07:27
raphink	gawa: sudo can do that, in 1 liiine of conf	07:27
jonatan	k, sorry , guess it was uncalled for	07:27
gawa	uniq --> yeah don't care, i'll find the kdesu sources and look at them, just for see if i can ... (i'm not a hard programmer :p) but i thin i can test sudo ...	07:28
byen	does anyone here have Kubuntu crash while opening links in Firefix?	07:28
soon	try firefox instead :-) lol	07:28
uniq	raphink: what if you don't want any user to be able to do anything as root without having the root password? :)	07:28
raphink	gawa: you want to remove the sudo patch from kdesu ?	07:28
Chris_Tucker	im still trying to get kubuntu to send its links to firefox >.<	07:28
raphink	uniq: then you just set sudo to do so :;)	07:28
macd	Chris_Tucker: kcontrol.	07:28
VincentMX	why can't i burn mp3 files in k3b?	07:28
Chris_Tucker	macd, dont you think ive been trying that?	07:29
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macd	Obviously I have no clue what youve tried since you havent said yet.	07:29
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Chris_Tucker	ok then ive tried x-www-browser reconfigurer, kcontrol -> kde components -> web browswer -> "firefox" and "firefox %s"	07:31
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VincentMX	how do i open mp3 files?	07:31
Chris_Tucker	!mp3	07:31
ubotu	I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	07:31
macd	Chris_Tucker: I have the same setting in kubuntu-breezy kd3.5.2, works fine.	07:31
VincentMX	!mp3	07:33
ubotu	well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	07:33
Chris_Tucker	macd, which one	07:33
jonatan	Chris_Tucker: what happens when youd o that, does it open it in konqueror still or does it just crash ?	07:33
macd	firefox %s	07:33
Chris_Tucker	jonatan, it does nothing	07:34
Chris_Tucker	the link goes nowhere	07:34
macd	is your firefox bin in your path?	07:34
Chris_Tucker	its in /usr/bin	07:34
jimmy__	whats the apt-get for the kernel source?	07:34
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macd	jimmy__: that would depend on your instaled kernel, use apt-cache search to find yours.	07:35
Chris_Tucker	i dont know what you mean by "my path"	07:35
macd	Chris_Tucker: if its in /usr/bin thats good enough.	07:35
Chris_Tucker	macd, well its not working	07:35
macd	sounds like yu should submit a bug report.	07:36
jonatan	Chris_Tucker: have you tried just runing firefox %s from the command line, does that start firefox ?	07:36
Chris_Tucker	macd, its a bug specific to this machine.	07:36
Chris_Tucker	custom install of firefox.	07:36
Tommy2k4	is there a way to make it so the windows key opens the k-menu like it would the start button in windows	07:36
jimmy__	how do i check which kernel im using?	07:36
macd	firefox %s wouldnt run anything, %s is a way of carrying the url from one part of kde to the firefox launch	07:36
Chris_Tucker	macd, i know that.	07:37
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byen	can anyone tell me why Firefox crashes everytime i click a link on kde?	07:37
macd	I was referring to jonatan	07:37
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Celeste	hi	07:37
macd	jimmy__: at konsole type uname -a	07:37
jonatan	macd: oh, right	07:37
Chris_Tucker	macd, im saying im not using the firefox from apt-get ... im using a custom install. in a command terminal i can type "firefox http://google.com/linux" and firefox will open a new tab with that url, but kde will not do the same	07:37
macd	or 'sudo apt-cache search kernel-source	07:37
jimmy__	got it thanks	07:38
macd	Chris_Tucker: I understood you the first time, It doesnt matter what firefox your using, as long as its in the path.	07:38
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macd	try copying yur firefox binary into /bin and try again.	07:40
Chris_Tucker	macd, no, wait, its working for a link on my desktop now...	07:40
Chris_Tucker	without doing that	07:40
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Chris_Tucker	its just applications that dont want to work... xchat/gaim/etc	07:41
macd	xchat has a setting for what browser to use.	07:42
macd	Im not sure about gaim, as I dont use it	07:42
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MetaMorfoziS	how can i check [what parameters i need to check] a dvdwriter supported by kubuntu?	07:43
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jimmy__	what is the command to install a .deb file you download?	07:47
jimmy__	for example im trying to install skype	07:47
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geneo93	!skype	07:49
ubotu	rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/	07:49
jimmy__	thank yo	07:49
geneo93	yw	07:49
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Healot	dpkg -i <.deb> jimmy__	07:51
jimmy__	ahh ok	07:52
jimmy__	thanks healot	07:52
Healot	do you understand the syntax?	07:52
jimmy__	yes i do	07:52
Healot	oh	07:52
Healot	sudo dpkg ...	07:52
jimmy__	yup	07:52
Healot	sudo first, that's super	07:52
jimmy__	correct	07:52
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slow-motion	re	08:00
uniq	gawa: still here?	08:01
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linuxmonkey	can someone help me with my printer, i get http://pastebin.ca/66605 when ever I try to add it	08:03
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ryanakca	ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" I tried my username & pass (yes, I'm in the lpadmin group), same thing. What do I do?	08:04
uniq	gawa: found the solution you want. put '[super-user-command] \n super-user-command=su' into ~/.kde/share/config/kdesurc \n = new line. Now kdesu uses su instead of sudo. This will be a user specific change. To make this global put the file in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/	08:05
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elknof3	hey, hi everybody...	08:06
elknof3	im having issues while burning a .iso	08:07
elknof3	whit k3b	08:07
Healot	I don't know the reason why a person would remove sudo?	08:07
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elknof3	im using dapper	08:07
slow-motion	uniq http://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/printer-configuration.html < thats the way they explain it for xubuntu. i think it will be the same for kubuntu	08:08
ryanakca	elknof3: what's the error?	08:08
slow-motion	except the user manager program	08:08
elknof3	rynakca, how can i show you the error without pasting it here??	08:08
ryanakca	!pastebin	08:09
ubotu	Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .	08:09
uniq	slow-motion: easiest way to add a user to a group is actually the command line: 'sudo adduser user group'	08:10
slow-motion	dont know. it was not in the xubuntu manual	08:10
elknof3	ryanacka, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15874	08:11
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h3sp4wn_	The easiest way to add multiple users to multiple groups i think is sudo vigr	08:11
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h3sp4wn_	(or adding a new user to alot of groups - not from a script though)	08:12
zmoukie		08:12
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ryanakca	elknof3: sudo cdrecord -scanbus	08:12
linuxmonkey	woot woot I fixed my own printing problem :)	08:12
elknof3	ryanacka, i've already done that	08:13
zmoukie	preved	08:13
uniq	healot: sudo vs. su is a matter of taste and what you feel is right. Some users prefer su, others sudo. That's just the way it is. :)	08:13
ryanakca	output?	08:13
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ryanakca	hmmm... If I have a lot of commands to run, su, if it's just 1 or 2, sudo	08:13
Healot	i prefer a more secure root access	08:14
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axier	loco	08:14
Healot	they say "sudo"	08:14
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uniq	ryanakca: sudo can also give you a shell like su. with the -i option.	08:14
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ryanakca	yeah	08:14
elknof3	ryanacka, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15875	08:14
Healot	security will make you feel a bit uncomfortable... but worth it	08:15
ryanakca	Healot: you get used to it after a while	08:15
Leqtic	Hi guys :D	08:15
Healot	more then a WHILE :)	08:15
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Leqtic	Where can you get new themes for Kubuntu :D	08:15
pichi	hello to all	08:16
uniq	leqtic: http://kde-look.org	08:16
Leqtic	uniq: saving me again :D	08:16
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Child4Christ	how do i deal with .rar archives?	08:17
Healot	!info unrar	08:17
ubotu	unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 216 kB	08:17
Healot	!info unrar-free	08:17
ubotu	unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB	08:17
Leqtic	uniq: how do u install :D ?	08:17
Child4Christ	thx	08:18
ryanakca	elknof3: sorry, no clue... I had a simmilar error... and I had selected TAO burn method... instead of the others... which I could help you more... umm... you checked google for simmilar errors?	08:18
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Leqtic	.kda	08:18
Leqtic	is that?	08:18
Leqtic	kth	08:18
elknof3	ryanacka, yeah i've been looking for same things but no track of it	08:19
lime4x4	which kernel version for a P4 2.6 ghz HT chip? 386 or 686?	08:19
Leqtic	.kth double kick on it?	08:19
ryanakca	wish... and TAO burn method instead of the other burn methods corrected it.... sorry if I'm not very clear	08:19
Child4Christ	worked, cheers =)	08:19
Healot	cheers the Canadian way T&P?	08:19
elknof3	ryanacka, what is TAO burn method?	08:19
Healot	TRack at Once	08:19
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Healot	meaning one track on each burning session	08:20
elknof3	how do you activate that??	08:20
uniq	lime4x4: 686.	08:20
elknof3	i mean that's in k3b??	08:20
Healot	all in k3b options	08:20
ryanakca	in writing mode...	08:20
elknof3	ok ok	08:20
elknof3	thanks a lot	08:21
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ryanakca	ok, so you go burn cd image, then under "Writing Mode", change auto to TAO. proceed as normal	08:21
Leqtic	uniq: how do u install them? i unzipped it	08:21
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lime4x4	uniq how would i change that then?? took the update for the new kernel but it's the 386 version i don't know why it didn't detect my cpu properly	08:22
elknof3	ryanacka, ok i think its wrking... thanks	08:22
Leqtic	Does anyone here know how to install themes?	08:22
ryanakca	:)	08:22
uniq	lime4x4: 686 will be the prefered kernel if you install it.	08:22
uniq	leqtic: what theme? link?	08:22
ryanakca	Leqtic: help us help you, can you give us more information? Themes for what? Downloaded from and to where? File extention?	08:23
elknof3	will that work on every type of burning? i mean, to burn mp3's, data, etc?	08:23
Tommy2k4	how can i get it so the windows key opens the k-menu	08:23
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ryanakca	elknof3: should	08:23
Leqtic	.kth file extension, downlodade from the webplace uniq gave me	08:23
Leqtic	KDE theme :D	08:23
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elknof3	ryanacka, it didn't work...	08:23
ryanakca	ok, go to KControl, Appearance & Themes, Theme Manager, Install new theme	08:24
lime4x4	uniq so go thru synaptic and select the 686 kernel	08:24
ryanakca	elknof3: drats... same error?	08:24
elknof3	yeap	08:24
omega	How do I find the numeric permission bit of a file?	08:24
ryanakca	ok, try closing k3b, go alt-f2, and type in: kdesu k3b	08:25
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uniq	lime4x4: yes.	08:25
Leqtic	ryanakca: thanks	08:25
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lime4x4	thanks uniq	08:27
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Leqtic	ryanakca: You mean SYstem Settings, cant seem to find Appearance & Themes	08:27
uniq	omega: 'stat file'	08:27
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omega	Thank you, uniq	08:27
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ryanakca	Leqtic: no, KControl.... go alt-f2, kcontrol	08:28
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Leqtic	ryanakca: thanks again :D	08:29
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ryanakca	np	08:29
ryanakca	elknof3: working?	08:29
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uniq	omega: 'stat -c "%a %n \n" file' is also nice.	08:30
Tommy2k4	is it possible to make the k-menu open when i press the win key	08:30
uniq	tommy2k4: yes, you can try this:	08:31
uniq	!kmediakeys	08:31
ubotu	from memory, kmediakeys is system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> enable keyboard layouts, and select a keyboard model close to yours in the list.	08:31
Child4Christ	what repos in the source list do i need to install another amaroK engine?	08:31
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elknof3	no	08:32
humboldt	does anyone know a app (GUI or WebGUI, OSS or proprietary) for keeping track of IP subnets, and IP devices in them. Something where you would create a master subnet and then can devide it in smaller pieces and keep information to any IP in these subnets, search for the IPs, subnets and info stored to them, ...	08:32
paines	good evening	08:32
ryanakca	elknof3: error?	08:32
uniq	humboldt: something like nagios?	08:32
Leqtic	does installing a new theme requiring u to reboot?	08:33
humboldt	maybe, don't know it. you tell me.	08:33
raphink	Leqtic: whatt kind of theme?	08:33
omega	Too big a command for me, uniq. I like to keep things simple.	08:34
Tommy2k4	cant find anything in there about the win key uniq	08:34
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Leqtic	raphink: for the KDE	08:34
humboldt	uniq: however, I primarily am looking for something to keep documentation for these subnets and IPs not to monitor them	08:34
Leqtic	just a normal theme :D	08:34
raphink	Leqtic: no	08:34
elknof3	ok its working	08:34
Tommy2k4	its not like the keyboard doesnt pick up the win key, i can use it in other shortcuts, but pressing it on its own doesnt bring up the k-menu	08:34
raphink	Leqtic: the only thing that requires to reboot is upgrading a kernel	08:34
elknof3	the burn prosses started yet	08:34
Child4Christ	random question, anyone here sucessfully set up and ran an OX server on Kubuntu?	08:34
raphink	as far as I know	08:34
ryanakca	elknof3: what did you do?	08:34
uniq	tommy2k4: choose the keyboard you have. ms win natural for example. Then it should work.	08:34
elknof3	ryanakca: i did what you tell me	08:35
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elknof3	and then i started the burning proses	08:35
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Tommy2k4	well i dont know what keyboard i have but i tried all of the ms ones and none of them worked	08:36
uniq	humboldt: then i don't know.	08:36
ryanakca	elknof3: ok, is there anybody else who uses your box?	08:37
uniq	tommy2k4: what about 105 key?	08:37
Tommy2k4	tried it	08:37
elknof3	ryanakca: thanks for helping me	08:37
lime4x4	uniq is it possible to select the 686 kernel on install??? I have another machine i want to install kubuntu on as well	08:37
ryanakca	np	08:37
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uniq	lime4x4: don't think so.	08:37
lime4x4	k thanks	08:38
Leqtic	bye all :D	08:38
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Tommy2k4	http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153112 will that work on dapper?	08:48
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uniq	tommy2k4: yes. should	08:49
apokryphos	Tommy2k4: yesa	08:49
apokryphos	or yes, even	08:49
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apokryphos	hi uniq :). How's it going?	08:50
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uniq	hi apokryphos, all good here. and you? :)	08:50
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apokryphos	yeah, things are good. Finally a bit of a relaxation period after exams 8)	08:50
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Tonio_	hey	08:51
Tonio_	is someone here using a bluetooth mouse ?	08:51
uniq	i use a trackpad, so that's a negative from me.	08:52
Child4Christ	exams are fun :D	08:52
apokryphos	bluetooth are too expensive still, for me	08:52
apokryphos	Child4Christ: nah, means you have to do work. For most of them, anyway.	08:52
uniq	i have a bluetooth phone, and headset though.	08:52
Child4Christ	can i take the RHCE exams on Kubuntu?	08:53
Child4Christ	might be goin for it next year WOOHOO!!! :D	08:53
uniq	child4christ: probably not. as RH is RedHat not RubHuntu. :)	08:53
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Child4Christ	RubHuntu? IDEA!! toddles off to make another ubuntu derivitive	08:54
Child4Christ	thats an idea actually, splice RHEL4 rpms and add ubuntu to it, is it possible?	08:55
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Child4Christ	best of both worlds cause a lot of software comes as rpm an no deb :(	08:56
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slicslak	can i use my gamepad as a mouse?	08:58
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richard	Is there any similiar program to amarok that will compress and install video's to a ipod?	09:04
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richard	Not an Ipod but a generic ipod with video capabilities. . .	09:04
rohan	seeing that i have the ubuntu desktop cd, can i somehow use it to create teh kubuntu one, without having to download full 650mb kubuntu desktop cd ?	09:04
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_euclid	hola	09:08
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euclid_	j	09:09
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Armagguedes	hello	09:11
Armagguedes	what happened to that kde 3.5.? theme in which the top right corner buttons	09:12
Armagguedes	where square, and the X button was longer than the others	09:12
Armagguedes	i think it duplicated longhorn, but im not sure.	09:12
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Armagguedes	anyways, i prefered that one to 3.5.3's , but i cant find it in the themes section in kcontrol	09:13
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ryanakca	I have kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop & xubuntu-desktop installed. How do I set kmenu up so that it shows only KDE/Kubuntu apps? not the xubuntu/ubuntu/XFCE/GNOME ones...	09:21
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raphink	ryanakca: not sure that is possible	09:22
raphink	imo the K menu shows all the apps that have a .desktop file in /usr/share/apps	09:23
ryanakca	drats... didn't think so... I was hoping you'd prove me wrong	09:23
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serenity	i would be possible when u set up group-settings	09:23
raphink	sorry	09:23
raphink	I mean /usr/share/applications	09:23
serenity	but to complicated	09:23
raphink	ah	09:23
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SurfnKid	Hi	09:26
SurfnKid	How can I check for errors on hard drives	09:27
raphink	hi SurfnKid	09:27
raphink	you mean on filesystems?	09:27
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SurfnKid	yeah	09:28
raphink	run fsck	09:28
SurfnKid	booted and got error on device hdc I/O logical block 0	09:28
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raphink	are you sure hdc is a hard drive ?	09:29
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raphink	isn't it the cdrom/dvdrom?	09:29
SurfnKid	mm	09:29
SurfnKid	oh	09:29
SurfnKid	good point i forgot hda is hdd, hdc is cdrom	09:30
SurfnKid	:P	09:30
SurfnKid	nevermind then	09:30
raphink	hehe	09:30
raphink	then check your CD/DVD ;)	09:30
SurfnKid	now i remember that it gives errors now and then	09:30
Armagguedes	how is responsible for the DejaVu font?	09:30
SurfnKid	still wanna check my hdd, is there a utility	09:31
Armagguedes	forget it, found it (sourceforge)	09:31
raphink	SurfnKid: you can check filesystems using fsck	09:32
Armagguedes	how do i check the version of a font i have installed?	09:32
SurfnKid	raphink: k	09:33
raphink	Armagguedes: dpkg -L	09:33
raphink	sorrry -l	09:33
raphink	dpkg -l	09:33
raphink	will tell you the version of an installed package	09:33
SurfnKid	raphink: warns that i shouldnt on mounted systems	09:33
raphink	SurfnKid: then unmount it	09:33
raphink	;)	09:33
raphink	if it's not your /	09:34
raphink	;)	09:34
SurfnKid	oh	09:34
SurfnKid	and if it is, will it automatically check all this on bootup?	09:34
raphink	if there is a problem with your /, it should be checked at bootup	09:34
SurfnKid	ok then forget it	09:35
SurfnKid	not worried :)	09:35
raphink	otherwise	09:35
raphink	you can run	09:35
raphink	shutdown -r -F now	09:35
SurfnKid	whats that do	09:35
raphink	to reboot and force checking hard drives	09:35
SurfnKid	ah ok	09:35
Armagguedes	raphink ok tks	09:35
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SurfnKid	thanks brb	09:36
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serenity	is there a sidebar available for linux?	09:39
raphink	a sidebar?	09:40
raphink	how do you mean?	09:40
serenity	like on vista...got this on my xp	09:40
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raphink	you mean a sidebar in konqueror with the history and stuff ?	09:40
raphink	serenity: sorry I don't use vista so i don't know what you're talkinga bout	09:41
serenity	no, a sidebar on my desktop	09:41
serenity	mom	09:41
raphink	what is that for?	09:41
raphink	what does it do?	09:41
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raphink	you can surely put a bar on the side	09:41
raphink	but sidebar stands for no special behaviour/fuctionality for me	09:41
serenity	http://www.tgtsoft.com/images/ss/media_album.jpg somethink like this	09:41
raphink	unless you tell me what you want it to do	09:41
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raphink	ah	09:42
raphink	!	09:42
ubotu	raphink: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	09:42
raphink	a widget	09:42
raphink	:)	09:42
raphink	ubotu: :p	09:42
ubotu	raphink: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	09:42
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raphink	serenity: with kde you can use superkaramba for such things	09:42
raphink	look at superkaramba stuff on kde-look.org	09:43
serenity	ok	09:43
serenity	thanks	09:43
raphink	http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38&PHPSESSID=1ac381e18360f1f00da0344ba7d7eedf	09:43
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raphink	there	09:43
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raphink	you'll need to install the superkaramba package	09:43
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xst	When I write in kopete there is an enormous latency on the cursor. If I hold down e.g. the left-key, the curser may continue to struggle slowly to the left several seconds after I have released the button. Any ideas why?	09:46
KuLover	Heya, I my motherboard has failed and if I replace it with a different one, will I have problems booting? Is there something I should do to prepair Kubuntu?	09:46
xst	In general my desktop seems very much slower after I upgraded from breezy to dapper.	09:47
raphink	xst: kde 3.5 is slower than 3.4 imo	09:47
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uniq	kulover: no, i think kubuntu should figure that out without help.	09:48
xst	Any ideas why? Upgrading to a SLOWER version is rarely preferrable. :-(	09:48
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h3sp4wn_	xst: Try the latest kanotix live cd - kde doesn't have to be slow	09:49
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h3sp4wn_	xst: I am trying to work out what they do differently to make it run so much quicker	09:50
xst	h3sp4wn_: Cool! Cause, I really think the dapper is extreamly slow.	09:51
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h3sp4wn_	xst: What spec of machine ?	09:51
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xst	h3sp4wn_: Athlon XP 2000+, 512 MB, Matrox G500. (But as you know, kubuntu was ok fast on breezy)	09:53
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KuLover	Heya, My motherboard has failed and if I replace it with a different one, will I have problems booting? Is there something I should do to prepair Kubuntu?	09:53
uniq	kulover: no, kubuntu will handle it.	09:54
h3sp4wn_	xst: I have Athlon XP 2600, 1gb ram - that kubuntu is reasonably quick on (using the real time preempt kernel patch and 2.6.16 - no other patches)	09:54
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h3sp4wn_	However on my p3 900 laptop with 256mb kubuntu is dog slow but kanotix runs as fast as my desktop does (it seems anyway)	09:55
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KuLover	Uniq, Coolness thanks a bunch. I worry about one thing though, what about hard drive controller drivers? Will it take care of that too?	09:55
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DjDarkman	hy ,is running shh anf ftp on my pc insecure?	09:57
kbrooks	DjDarkman: ssh: yes, on the default configuration	09:58
DjDarkman	kbrooks: and how can I configure it to be secure?	09:58
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The_Fallen	hi	09:59
uniq	kulover: yes. everything should work. if you connect the harddrives in the same order on the same controllers as the old mb.	09:59
kbrooks	DjDarkman: people scan for ssh servers and if one is found, they focus ALL their resources on that ssh server	09:59
kbrooks	DjDarkman: they guess passwords	09:59
kbrooks	DjDarkman: attack that field	10:00
KuLover	I'm pretty sure I wil have to reconfigure my fstab though.. no big problem though	10:00
The_Fallen	i wanna play MP3s with amarok and the FAQ says I have to install the package libxine-extracodecs... but this one doesn't seem to exist?!	10:00
DjDarkman	but if I have a hard password?	10:00
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kbrooks	DjDarkman: hard password? THIS is not a hard password:	10:00
kbrooks	11111111111111111111111111111111111111	10:00
kbrooks	but THIS is:	10:00
kbrooks	z2f6k7j5hk75	10:01
kbrooks	but thats not memorable	10:01
BrigadierFrog	kbrooks: thats not a hard password	10:01
BrigadierFrog	kbrooks: %gg!87.$ is	10:01
DjDarkman	yeah but AFedgf24fefefEEeeeefef is harder	10:01
rothgar_	The_Fallen: did you edit your repositories?	10:01
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rothgar_	The_Fallen: the package is probably there just not in the repositories there by default	10:02
Snake[Away]	DjDarkman: I could crack that in about 4 hours.	10:03
Snake[Away]	what BrigadierFrog said would be more difficult	10:03
kbrooks	why, Snake[Away]	10:03
Snake[Away]	kbrooks: why is it more difficult?	10:03
Snake[Away]	is that what your asking?	10:03
kbrooks	no, the former	10:03
DjDarkman	so i should use upper lower case chars ,number and special chars	10:03
The_Fallen	rothgar_: yeah, i enabled universe and multiverse repositories	10:03
kbrooks	<Snake[Away] > DjDarkman: I could crack that in about 4 hours. -> why?	10:04
Snake[Away]	kbrooks: Because its a bunch of the same letters in a row	10:04
kbrooks	ah	10:04
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Snake[Away]	kbrooks: how most password scanners work is they will go through the aphebete, then numbers, but say your password is... hiie when it figures out the i, it will try i for the next thing as well	10:05
DjDarkman	can you give me an example of a password that will take at least a year to crack?	10:05
Snake[Away]	DjDarkman: something from gpg	10:05
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kbrooks	DjDarkman: a year?	10:05
Snake[Away]	Alright I gotta go take a shower, ill bbl	10:05
BrigadierFrog	Snake[Away] : I wonder... can you even crack sha1 ? hmmm ? hahaha	10:06
DjDarkman	gpg ,as in general password generator?	10:06
kbrooks	DjDarkman: GPG as in gnupg	10:06
Snake[Away]	kbrooks: DjDarkman: a gpg encrypted password takes generally an upwords around 2-5 years depending on how much encryption it is, and what kind of scanner/attacker the person is using	10:06
Snake[Away]	and what kind of machine the attacker is using	10:06
kbrooks	DjDarkman: as in "gnu privacy guard"	10:06
Snake[Away]	openpgp etc	10:06
Snake[Away]	ANYWHO Shower	10:07
Snake[Away]	:)	10:07
DjDarkman	can you give me a link explaining this gnu privacy guard?	10:07
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brandon	what's the command to start kde from the command line?	10:10
DjDarkman	kde :)	10:10
DjDarkman	i think	10:10
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thoreauputic	startkde	10:11
thoreauputic	or startx $(startkde)	10:11
thoreauputic	oops	10:11
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thoreauputic	startx $(which starkde)	10:12
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thoreauputic	minus the typo :/	10:12
DjDarkman	he`s gone	10:12
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jme__	q. when i do apt-get and get .deb from the official ubuntu repository, the .deb are authenticated via a cryptographic signrature, correct ?	10:15
uniq	jme__: yes, that's correct.	10:16
jme__	uniq: you are positively sure ?	10:16
jme__	i mean i got people telling me otherwise	10:16
jme__	just want to know :)	10:16
thoreauputic	jme__: there's gpg key IIRC	10:16
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thoreauputic	apt checks gpg and md5sum I think	10:17
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jme__	ok thanks	10:17
thoreauputic	jme__: see man apt-key	10:18
raphink	yes	10:18
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jme__	willl look thanks	10:20
uniq	jme__: take a look at "man apt-secure" too (alt+f2 "#apt-secure")	10:20
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armedking	Anyone know what frontend the kicker applet "Public file server" uses in KDE cause i want the same in gnome.	10:22
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square_head	hello	10:23
square_head	How can I disable shift + backspace to dont kill my X ?	10:23
Snake	square_head: are you running XGL?	10:24
square_head	yes	10:24
Snake	Otherwise it shouldnt	10:24
square_head	its verry annoying :\|	10:24
Snake	square_head: hang on, I got a command for it, i gotta go on my other comp and get it	10:24
square_head	*very	10:24
square_head	ok thank you	10:24
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uniq	square_head: put this in your X config... Section "ServerFlags"	10:25
uniq	Option "DontZap" EndSection	10:25
nico8481	armedking: have a look at "ps -ef" output while it runs	10:25
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square_head	ok and if something goes wrong	10:26
square_head	how do I kill it?	10:26
armedking	oke i will, Tnx for your time man	10:26
uniq	square_head: let's start all over again, my paste got all messed up.	10:26
uniq	square_head: wait	10:26
Snake	Dont do that man	10:26
oomph_	has anyone installed Vmware version 5.5.1 on Kubuntu?	10:26
oomph_	im having issues getting it to run	10:26
square_head	oomph_, I did	10:27
oomph_	has anyone got a link or how-to on it?	10:27
snikker	what package can i install for use mplayer embeeded in firefox?	10:27
uniq	square_head: Section "ServerFlags" \n Option "DontZap" \n EndSection - where \n is new line.	10:27
oomph_	the problem im experiencing is Libpng issues	10:27
Snake	square_head: just type in "xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"	10:27
Snake	oops	10:27
Snake	no thats right	10:27
Armagguedes	how do i install a website root certificate (cacert.crt) in order to use my wifi?	10:27
Snake	square_head: that first quote should be there	10:27
Snake	shouldnt***	10:27
Snake	damn it!	10:27
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oomph_	square_head did you experience that problem when installing?	10:28
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Snake	square_head: here, incase you didnt get it: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"	10:28
Snake	will fix it	10:28
square_head	oomph_, yes, with some librabry, I did a search on ubuntuforums and it was a comand ln -s	10:28
nico8481	snikker: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats#head-e25afe1552d3a818f60e64143931b2d8e0522267	10:28
square_head	Snake, then how i will restart my x ?	10:28
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uniq	snikker: mozilla-mplayer	10:28
Snake	square_head: alt+ctrl+backspace? Like normal?	10:28
square_head	ok thank u !	10:28
square_head	WORKS	10:29
square_head	wiiiiii	10:29
square_head	sorry for spam	10:29
oomph_	ok let me try it	10:29
Snake	square_head: only thing is, you either A) have to put that in the compiz start up script at the very end, or B) put it in everytime you start the comp	10:29
Snake	I chose to put it in my compiz startup script	10:29
snikker	nico8481: thanks	10:29
uniq	C) add DontZap to X config :)	10:29
snikker	uniq: thanks	10:29
square_head	ye	10:29
DjDarkman	can I configure ssh and ftp to have a password guessing tollerance? for example if someone inputs the wrong password 10 times ,it will block it from retrying for a day or something like that?	10:30
uniq	djdarkman: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/250	10:31
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Tommy2k4	what version of kde comes with kubuntu dapper	10:35
uniq	tommy2k4: 3.5.2	10:35
square_head	3.5.3 I think	10:35
Hawkwind	3.5.2 but 3.5.3 was released later that night on June 1st	10:35
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Hawkwind	So if you update your system, you'll get 3.5.3	10:35
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uniq	if you add kubuntu.org sources and update you'll get 3.5.3	10:36
Tommy2k4	what command can i type to find out what i have	10:36
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Hawkwind	Tommy2k4: kde-config --version \| grep KDE	10:37
nico8481	any idea how to add places to the system menu?	10:37
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shredder81	how do I get it to allow me to make folders	10:39
Hawkwind	shredder81: Huh ?	10:39
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shredder81	I need to create a folder and copy files to it but it will not let me	10:40
oomph_	im having a libpng issue installing vmware still	10:40
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h3sp4wn	sudo chown yourusername /path/to/folder	10:40
Hawkwind	shredder81: mkdir is the command to make a directory, cp -a /old/path /new/path is the command to copy files	10:41
square_head	oomph_, hang on I will search	10:41
h3sp4wn	(optionallyy sudo chown yourusername:yourgroupname /path/to/folder (username and group name are the same for your default user)	10:41
Kmirno	maybe sudo chown -R yourusername /path/to/folder will suit you better	10:41
oomph_	thx	10:41
Kmirno	the -R for recusiv	10:41
h3sp4wn	If its a new folder the recursive shouldn't be needed	10:42
square_head	paste the error	10:42
oomph_	ok its 4 lines	10:43
oomph_	vmware	10:43
oomph_	/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)	10:43
oomph_	/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)	10:43
oomph_	/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)	10:43
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neko	does anyone know if there's a fix yet for printing under dapper?	10:43
uniq	oomph_: please, don't paste in the channel.	10:44
Hawkwind	!pastebin	10:44
ubotu	Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .	10:44
Hawkwind	Ahhh, good ole pastebin :)	10:44
oomph_	ok	10:44
oomph_	my bad	10:44
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square_head	oomph_,	10:45
square_head	oomph_, sudo cp /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/	10:46
oomph_	yes	10:46
square_head	this worked for me	10:46
square_head	tell me if it works.	10:46
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oomph_	doesnt work	10:46
oomph_	just starts and stops	10:47
oomph_	no error	10:47
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square_head	wait I had the same issue	10:47
oomph_	ok	10:47
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_buz	!kopete 0.12	10:48
ubotu	_buz: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/	10:48
_buz	!kopete	10:48
ubotu	Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org	10:48
square_head	oomph_, did vmware install put a desktop icon ?	10:49
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oomph_	sec	10:49
oomph_	checking	10:49
oomph_	no it did not	10:50
square_head	re-run vmware-config.pl using sudo, and put all the parameters correctly	10:50
square_head	hope it helps	10:50
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oomph_	ok let me try	10:51
neko	does anyone know how to get printing working after updating to dapper?	10:52
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Snake	!flash	10:52
ubotu	Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats	10:52
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SurfnKid	is there a player i could use via the command line	10:53
SurfnKid	without using GUI	10:53
Hawkwind	SurfnKid: mplayer	10:53
SurfnKid	Hawkwind: for instance, i dontw ant to use a desktop manager	10:54
SurfnKid	i want to do everything on terminal mode	10:54
SurfnKid	and have a radio station i want to stream	10:54
Hawkwind	mplayer as I stated	10:55
SurfnKid	ok	10:55
SurfnKid	i got xfmedia but let me install that one	10:55
DaSkreech	SurfnKid: Yeah there are players	10:55
DaSkreech	It's kind of hard to pull up stuff you can't do on the CLI	10:55
DaSkreech	like UT :)	10:56
SurfnKid	right	10:56
SurfnKid	bah	10:57
SurfnKid	i hate routers	10:57
SurfnKid	i cant apt-get again	10:57
jerry	is ubuntu and kubuntu pretty much the same?	10:57
SurfnKid	can i set up a proxy on another laptop and go thru it	10:57
oomph	square: im still getting the same error	10:57
raphink	jerry: yes	10:57
raphink	jerry: it's the same distro, with a different default DE	10:58
_buz	jerry: kubuntu uses kde as desktop, other than that yes	10:58
Tommy2k4	whats the parameters to untar a gz	10:58
jerry	or what's different?	10:58
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square_head	oomph, it doesnt show ?	10:58
raphink	jerry: as _buz said, kubuntu uses KDE by default, ubuntu uses GNOME by default, Xubuntu is XFCE	10:58
uniq	tommy2k4: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz	10:58
oomph	nope, same error after full reinstall	10:58
square_head	that one with the lib?	10:58
jerry	can I run gnome?	10:58
Tommy2k4	time to write that down	10:58
Tommy2k4	i always forget	10:58
raphink	jerry: sur eyou can if you like it ;)	10:59
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jerry	or is there a command that I can type to launch gnome?	10:59
_buz	can someone point me to the kopete 0.12 deb (again)?	10:59
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raphink	jerry: you have to install gnome	10:59
raphink	sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	10:59
raphink	will install gnome with the ubuntu settings	10:59
raphink	whereas sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installs kde with the kubuntu settings	10:59
raphink	etc.	10:59
jerry	aww it says it can't find it :(	10:59
DaSkreech	then you can type gdm at the prompt	10:59
raphink	jerry: can't find what?	11:00
SurfnKid	i have kubuntu and its lighter than ubuntu	11:00
SurfnKid	if you lack memory	11:00
raphink	SurfnKid: I doubt so	11:00
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raphink	if you lack memory and/or power, xubuntu is the lightest of the official DE/WM in ubuntu	11:00
SurfnKid	raphink: sorry i meant Xubuntu	11:01
SurfnKid	raphink: yes, not kubuntu	11:01
raphink	ah ok	11:01
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SurfnKid	raphink: Kubuntu is heavier i thought	11:01
Tommy2k4	uniq, is there a tar parameter to extract it to a folder the name of the tar	11:01
raphink	SurfnKid: GNOME and KDE are about the same	11:01
SurfnKid	dam those alphabet letters :P	11:01
SurfnKid	K, X ,U	11:01
DaSkreech	E	11:01
raphink	SurfnKid: yeah, alphabet is hard	11:01
SurfnKid	oh right Edubuntu	11:01
raphink	where did you stop?	11:02
raphink	Ebuntu even	11:02
raphink	although so far I don't want to see it	11:02
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SurfnKid	ther'es also MacUbuntu and Whataubuntu	11:02
SurfnKid	hehe	11:02
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raphink	neko: you mean ubuntu server I guess then ;)	11:02
DaSkreech	Klu Klux even	11:02
andred	_buz: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/	11:02
uniq	tommy2k4: no, make the dir first. and untar in it.	11:02
neko	raphink: pretty much ;o)	11:03
_buz	andred: thanks	11:03
Tommy2k4	k	11:03
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neko	actually, does anyone know if ubuntu dapper has the same printing problems as kubuntu dapper?	11:04
raphink	neko: no	11:05
raphink	neko: the problems mostly come from the fact that an svn version of cupsys was used	11:05
neko	ack, so much for that plan	11:05
raphink	and the people who pushed it are gnome users, so they adjusted gnome to make it work with it	11:05
ICXCNIKA	Anyone tried PCLinuxOS? I'm kind of conflicted between it and Kubuntu as far as which OS to start out with.	11:05
raphink	but just forgot to tell us that it wouldn't work	11:05
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raphink	ICXCNIKA: I wouldn't be conflicted if I were you ;)	11:06
neko	raphink: are there any fixes around do you know?	11:06
uniq	it barely works with gnome too though..	11:06
SurfnKid	whats a good proxy ?	11:06
raphink	neko: not that I know of	11:06
uniq	surfnkid: squid.	11:06
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SurfnKid	uniq: can you go thru all ports	11:06
neko	ack, thanks anyway	11:06
raphink	uniq: I quite don't understand why this svn version of cups was kept while final was released	11:06
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uniq	surfnkid: you can make it do whatever you want.	11:06
SurfnKid	uniq: sweet	11:06
Snake	!kde	11:06
Snake	!kde3.5.3	11:07
ubotu	well, kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".	11:07
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iNiku	ICXCNIKA: what's the selling point of PCLinuxOS? I've never even heard of it	11:07
raphink	iNiku: PClinuxOS is based on Mandriva	11:07
iNiku	ICXCNIKA: I would go for a widely known and used distro, easier to get support that way...	11:07
ubuntu_	ha	11:07
uniq	raphink: me neither, and the hacking to make cups fubar seems to me very unnecessary, as cups is just fine by default. What's wrong with printing in breezy? it works.	11:07
raphink	it's a derivative of Mandriva	11:07
h3sp4wn	raphink: Just install the final from the debian sid sources	11:07
iNiku	raphink: ah, ok	11:07
raphink	so it's rpm based to begin with ;)	11:07
h3sp4wn	raphrink: apt-get source (don't try installing the binary debs)	11:08
raphink	h3sp4wn: I'd say rebuild it first ;)	11:08
iNiku	too many distros	11:08
ICXCNIKA	Well, apparently it is based off of Mandriva. But it comes with Java, video drivers, and such already built into it.	11:08
raphink	h3sp4wn: is it me you're talking to about cups ?	11:08
DaSkreech	iNiku: Not enough hard Drive space	11:08
h3sp4wn	raphink: I think so but I am not sure (going a little crazy at this moment)	11:08
SurfnKid	uniq: proxy cache proxy server, same meaning?	11:08
raphink	h3sp4wn: ok	11:09
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uniq	surfnkid: yes.	11:09
SurfnKid	k	11:09
Hawkwind	PcLinuxOS is not a derivative of Mandriva. It's a complete and seperate fork and not something Mandriva has anything to do with	11:09
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fokus	ave wszystkim	11:09
h3sp4wn	uniq: squid-prefetch is still broken in dapper (making the package useless)	11:09
Hawkwind	Texstar used to be a Mandrake packager, he left and started PcLinuxOS and use Mandrake as the base	11:09
fokus	mam szybklie pytanie gdzie mozna znalezc flash playera w wersji 8	11:09
Hawkwind	s/use/used	11:09
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fokus	sorry	11:10
uniq	h3sp4wn: what? is it?	11:10
ICXCNIKA	I see. Have you used it before Hawkwind?	11:10
Tommy2k4	what packages must i install to be able to configure and make	11:10
fokus	this is a bad channel	11:10
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Hawkwind	ICXCNIKA: Yes. I also use Mandriva so I know how PcLinuxOS works	11:10
fokus	bay	11:10
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Hawkwind	PcLinuxOS uses apt-get instead of urpmi like Mandriva does	11:10
uniq	h3sp4wn: i just upgraded a proxy server for a client friday, from breezy to dapper. hope they don't use prefetching.	11:10
raphink	ICXCNIKA: from previous experiences with Mandriva, I woulnd't use a mandriva or mandriva-based distro	11:12
raphink	ICXCNIKA: but you can make your own experience ;)	11:12
Armagguedes	how do i install a website root certificate (cacert.crt) in order to use my wifi?	11:12
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iNiku	Armagguedes: huh?	11:13
h3sp4wn	uniq: Its a script which prefetches stuff based on what you have been to previously	11:13
iNiku	what does a website certificate have to do with wifi?	11:13
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Hawkwind	raphink: Though I do have to admit I'm switching my main OS from Mandriva to Kubuntu this week :)	11:13
raphink	Hawkwind: I expect graphical configuration tools to not bork my config when I have modified it manually	11:13
Armagguedes	iNiku in my univ in order to use the WiFi network they require us to install a root certificate	11:13
uniq	h3sp4wn: yes, i know, i had it running on a debian proxy at another clients site.	11:13
Hawkwind	raphink: Wait! That's what Mandriva is famous for though. Is their broken GUI tools	11:14
Hawkwind	Heh	11:14
raphink	and the mandriva drakes are the most horrible tools I know for this	11:14
h3sp4wn	uniq: Its broken in debian though also	11:14
raphink	sure Hawkwind	11:14
raphink	but a distro with bad admin tools is not a good distro for me	11:14
ICXCNIKA	Does anyone know of a good link for the Dapper Drake ISOs? The US links seem to freeze up on me.	11:14
Hawkwind	raphink: They just came out with a new one a couple months back. kiosk, it's a webbased package installer	11:14
nnn0	us sucks :D	11:14
raphink	ICXCNIKA: just try another one then :)	11:14
iNiku	Armagguedes: umm. okay.	11:15
Hawkwind	ICXCNIKA: I use the ones in Europe personally and I'm in the US	11:15
jpatrick	!tell VICIOuS about sources	11:15
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raphink	Hawkwind: like CnR ?	11:15
Hawkwind	ICXCNIKA: I always good the best speeds with swiss or the norway mirrors	11:15
Armagguedes	iNiku at least its what's on the windows vpn page	11:15
ICXCNIKA	Yeah. I'm using Estonia's link.	11:15
Armagguedes	the dont have a linux guide	11:15
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Hawkwind	raphink: No not that drastic. It installs bundles of packages, like it has KDE in one big bundle instead of all seperate rpms	11:15
raphink	Hawkwind: what's the point?	11:16
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h3sp4wn	iNiku: Do you use hostapd at all ?	11:16
Hawkwind	raphink: I've asked that a hundred times over. They say it's to make package installation easier	11:16
uniq	h3sp4wn: it just dies,it's not that important with prefetching. But it's nice to know that it doesn't work.	11:16
raphink	Hawkwind: haha	11:16
raphink	ok	11:16
iNiku	h3sp4wn: nope, I have a dedicated wlan router	11:16
Hawkwind	raphink: Thing is, if you install Mandriva One from the Live CD, kiosk won't work for you. They have it so screwed up it's not funny	11:17
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iNiku	Armagguedes: ah, so it's for a vpn. you'll need a compatible vpn client first, then look into configuring the CA certificate into that	11:17
h3sp4wn	uniq: http://pastebin.com/715443 (I got that patch from somewhere which makes at least not die immediately)	11:18
iNiku	Armagguedes: sorry, don't have any real help for you, I haven't done much vpn stuff and it depends on what your university is using, anyway	11:18
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Armagguedes	ok tks anyy	11:19
Armagguedes	anyway	11:19
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Armagguedes	at least i made some progress	11:19
Armagguedes	now i need a vpn client	11:19
h3sp4wn	uniq: I think if something is so broken it should either be removed or at least patched so it semi works	11:19
Armagguedes	anyone know of one?	11:19
Tommy2k4	checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!	11:19
uniq	h3sp4wn: thanks. I agree completely.	11:19
Tommy2k4	how can i fix that	11:19
iNiku	Armagguedes: there are several	11:19
jpatrick	!xlibs	11:19
ubotu	I guess xlibs is needed for cedega and opera. use the xlibs-dev package	11:19
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jpatrick	Tommy2k4: that afaik^	11:20
iNiku	Armagguedes: the question is, which one or ones will work with whatever your university is using	11:20
_buz	Armagguedes: if your uni is using cisco vpn, kvpn ist your friend	11:20
iNiku	Armagguedes: openvpn is one. openswan is another.	11:20
_buz	that and vpnc	11:20
Tommy2k4	k	11:20
Armagguedes	how can i find find what vpn my college is using?	11:20
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TheHighChild	This Help pages	11:20
TheHighChild	What school do you go to Armagguedes?	11:21
Armagguedes	Instituto Superior Tecnico, in Lisbon, Portugal	11:21
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TheHighChild	Well, I would have tried searching your Help Pages but I don't read Protugese, sorry	11:22
ICXCNIKA	Grrr, these sites freeze like after 14%	11:23
ICXCNIKA	Eh, just try another one.	11:23
SurfnKid	How can i set the squid settings	11:24
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Armagguedes	how do i insert a matrix into OOo Writer?	11:25
Armagguedes	TheHighChild tks anyway	11:25
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Armagguedes	i've already searched the Helpdesk	11:25
Armagguedes	no luck	11:25
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flow	#pao	11:26
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Tommy2k4	checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!	11:27
Tommy2k4	what package name do i need	11:27
iNiku	Armagguedes: well, what do they tell you to use on windows?	11:27
Bazzi	apt-cache search qt3	11:27
Bazzi	:)	11:27
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square_head	how I can reset KWallet password?	11:28
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square_head	I don't remember it and its annoying everytime its requesting for password	11:28
raphink	I don't remember that	11:29
raphink	I'd say remove .kwallet	11:29
JavaByte	my monitor (which is plug and play) is detected as 640x480 and hsync 28.0-33.0 and vsync 43-72 when it is in fact a 1280x1024 with hsync 30-70 vsync 50-120, how do i change it	11:29
raphink	we might remove kwallet in edgy	11:29
raphink	should ask tonio about that btw	11:29
square_head	edgy?	11:30
square_head	what is edgy :)	11:30
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erov	just use the wallet	11:30
erov	change it from the wallet program	11:30
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Alien_Freak	hi all	11:30
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raphink	square_head: edgy is the new version of ubuntu, coming after dapper	11:30
Alien_Freak	I downloaded the latest Dapper release for Kubunut, do I need to do anything special do install it on the macbook pro?	11:31
square_head	cool	11:31
Alien_Freak	or can someone point me in the right direction?	11:31
raphink	Alien_Freak: did you look on the wiki?	11:31
JavaByte	theres a how to on the forums iirc	11:31
raphink	I haven't tried intel mac	11:31
raphink	macs	11:31
raphink	but I know it's doable	11:31
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square_head	rrors were encountered while processing:	11:32
square_head	/var/cache/apt/archives/kdm_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_i386.deb	11:32
square_head	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	11:32
Alien_Freak	hmm.. link for the wiki? i'm a bit new at the [uk] buntu	11:32
raphink	Alien_Freak: go on http://wiki.ubuntu.com	11:32
raphink	and search :)	11:32
Armagguedes	iNiku what do you mean?	11:32
iNiku	Armagguedes: do the windows instructions say to download and use some specific vpn client, or what?	11:33
iNiku	that would give a clue as to what kind of a vpn we're talking about	11:33
Armagguedes	they just guide us through the "add a new connection" > "...vpn..." > etc under the _Lack of Control Panel_	11:33
Armagguedes	no just the embedded client (?)	11:33
mitja	Hi! I mounted OS in another OS and changed all permissions to root 0755. Now it's stuck in init 2. Any suggesstions?	11:33
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SurfnKid	can someone help me with webmin	11:34
h3sp4wn	Alien_Freak: You need elilo (install by debootstrap)	11:34
Armagguedes	then they tell us to change a whole lot of options like PEAP and such	11:34
oomph_	surf: what ya need?	11:34
SurfnKid	I just finished setting it up	11:34
oomph_	and?	11:34
SurfnKid	says use the same password as you used on the setup	11:34
SurfnKid	so ok	11:34
SurfnKid	i go to the link:10000	11:34
square_head	who locks this ?	11:34
square_head	debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process	11:34
SurfnKid	whats the username?	11:34
SurfnKid	root?	11:34
oomph_	try root	11:34
SurfnKid	ok	11:34
oomph_	i think	11:34
SurfnKid	but now	11:34
Alien_Freak	hmmm... nothing for intel mac, macbook, macbook pro	11:34
ninHer	hi all	11:35
h3sp4wn	SurdnKid: If you have not specifically patched it for sudo then it won't work	11:35
square_head	nevermind	11:35
SurfnKid	i tried 3 times, its blocked, where's the file to unblock the file	11:35
SurfnKid	h3sp4wn: ok you just said something in chinese	11:35
SurfnKid	i mean wher's the file to unblock IPs	11:36
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: You will need to enable root (unless you can find some patches to make it work with sudo)	11:36
SurfnKid	oh ok	11:36
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SurfnKid	i guess root would work but now im blocked	11:36
h3sp4wn	Its not in debian anymore due to lack of interest	11:36
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iNiku	Armagguedes: okay, no clue then, I don't know what the standard windows vpn stuff is/does	11:37
iNiku	mitja: sounds like you're in for a reinstall	11:37
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iNiku	mitja: you really shouldn't go changing permissions like that	11:37
iNiku	they are there for a reason.	11:37
Tommy2k4	in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix	11:37
mitja	iNiku: yeah I know now, I thought they were saved in the current OS not where they were changed	11:38
Tommy2k4	how can i get rid ofthat error	11:38
Armagguedes	ok tks iNiku	11:38
Armagguedes	i'll try asking elsewhere then	11:38
h3sp4wn	Armagguedes: If you are using ipsec the kame tools are easier to use than openswan	11:38
iNiku	mitja: you could compare permissions with a healthy system and restore them manually	11:38
Armagguedes	h3sp4wn ur speaking chinese again	11:39
iNiku	I didn't realize h3sp4wn was chinese :)	11:39
SurfnKid	grr	11:40
SurfnKid	doesnt work	11:40
h3sp4wn	I am not chinese but I like china	11:40
SurfnKid	heh	11:40
SurfnKid	napoleon dynamite is dorky	11:40
SurfnKid	h3sp4wn: where can i check for the webmin username and password	11:41
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iNiku	Armagguedes: how about googling up ipsec, kame and openswan? you might be enlightened...	11:42
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h3sp4wn	I haven't used it for years - try /pathto/webmin/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root newpassword	11:43
SurfnKid	ok	11:43
SurfnKid	thanx for lookin	11:43
SurfnKid	im doin all this just to get a pc to update thru a proxy	11:43
SurfnKid	apt-get doesnt go thru my router	11:44
h3sp4wn	huh ?	11:44
SurfnKid	so maybe if it goes thru a proxy it will	11:44
h3sp4wn	export http_proxy="http://192.168.1.2:8080" is all I use to get aptitude working through a proxy	11:45
SurfnKid	right something like that ill have to try	11:45
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: Is it a home router ? or work ?	11:45
SurfnKid	i just need to set up squid	11:45
SurfnKid	h3sp4wn: home	11:45
SurfnKid	synaptic has the problem, its on the forum	11:46
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: Which model of router ?	11:46
SurfnKid	sometimes itll work sometimes it wont	11:46
SurfnKid	netgear	11:46
SurfnKid	got another laptop thatll work	11:46
SurfnKid	just not this vaio	11:46
h3sp4wn	which one ? (sometimes I have to do aptitude update twice to get it to work	11:46
SurfnKid	both are going wifi	11:46
SurfnKid	mmm	11:47
h3sp4wn	I do aptitude update (then control c) and then do it again	11:47
SurfnKid	ah	11:47
SurfnKid	let me try that	11:47
SurfnKid	error, failed to connect, unable to fetch archives.	11:47
h3sp4wn	are the lines in sources.list http:// or ftp://	11:48
SurfnKid	you know what i had to do to get it working? Internet connection sharing thru my laptop's wifi card, while that was directly connected to the DSLmodem. and That worked	11:48
SurfnKid	ok cool	11:48
SurfnKid	are those for proxy	11:48
SurfnKid	oh	11:48
SurfnKid	um let me check	11:49
h3sp4wn	So you have a dsl modem connected to a netgear router (via ethernet or usb)	11:49
SurfnKid	yep theyre all deb http:///	11:49
SurfnKid	err http:?/	11:49
SurfnKid	bah u know what i mean	11:49
h3sp4wn	i do	11:50
SurfnKid	eth	11:50
SurfnKid	my Dell laptop works fine	11:50
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SurfnKid	:(	11:50
SurfnKid	just not this one	11:50
h3sp4wn	is the ppp_mtu set right (I think that is the name for it)	11:50
SurfnKid	1500	11:50
Tommy2k4	in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!	11:50
Tommy2k4	how do i get rid of that error when ./configure	11:51
SurfnKid	h3sp4wn: fails on synaptic and fails on apt-get	11:51
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h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: You could run debmirror on the laptop I suppose (takes 12gb for the full archive)	11:52
loanwolf	Hawkwind, you useing E17 in ubuntu..like you was in mandriva	11:52
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: I would try the mtu at 1480	11:52
SurfnKid	ok	11:52
SurfnKid	h3sp4wn: ouch 12gb i only have 9gb/5gb left	11:52
Hawkwind	loanwolf: Absolutely	11:52
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mikkelk	heu	11:53
mikkelk	hey	11:53
loanwolf	Hawkwind, where do i find it at..i find E16 in synaptic	11:54
h3sp4wn	e-17 cvs	11:54
raphink	loanwolf: there are unofficial packages	11:54
Hawkwind	loanwolf: Look at my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forum. There is a Kubuntu section and a how-to for E17	11:54
mikkelk	I got a problem with knetworkmanager and wpa - anyone who might be able to help?	11:54
raphink	but they are trashy	11:54
loanwolf	ok	11:54
Hawkwind	loanwolf: It's a how-to on compiling from CVS in fact. It gives you the newest code and it's easy cause it uses a script	11:54
h3sp4wn	mikkelk: What wireless chipset ?	11:55
loanwolf	Hawkwind, ok thanks	11:55
mikkelk	Hmm...can't remember exactly, it's an Asus A6J laptop	11:55
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mikkelk	I think it's intel pro wireless 3945	11:56
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mikkelk	When i try to connect it stops at 28%	11:56
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neko	has anyone else had any problems with kuickshow refusing to install?	11:57
SurfnKid	1480 and still nothing, i gotta check those settings on the webserver to access it	11:57
h3sp4wn	mikkelk: I don't know much about those cards try looking in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (and remove knetworkmanager) anything you don't understand ask me	11:57
SurfnKid	h3sp4wn: can you paste the paths earlier to the password	11:58
loanwolf	anyone know why my screensavers will work by clicking the test button under screensavers..but why they wont auto atart	11:58
uniq	neko: it's removed, beeing replaced by gwenview. because the old imlib it depends on is no longer maintained.	11:58
mikkelk	Ok, thanks, i'll try that...	11:58
neko	uniq: thanks, I'll try that then	11:58
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: It will depend on where you installed it	11:58
SurfnKid	right	11:59
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: And it may also not be like that anymore (I last used it in 2001)	11:59
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: For people buying web hosting accounts from direct connection	11:59
SurfnKid	/usr/share/webmin	11:59
h3sp4wn	SurfnKid: Its probably easier to just install squid manually (if you are trying to install the squid webmin modules)	12:00
SurfnKid	yep, got it already installed	12:00
SurfnKid	but when i access a website	12:00
SurfnKid	it says it isnt permitted or allowed	12:00
SurfnKid	seems i gotta configure the proxy	12:01
h3sp4wn	hang on a min	12:02
JavaByte	see the advice not to change the default gfx setting if you have a ati or nvidia card - does that also apply to changing monitor settings or not?	12:02
SurfnKid	thx, im gonna read up on the documents	12:03
mikkelk	well, i don't really get it - it says that i should define af driver by "wpa-driver -something-", but which driver?	12:03

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