[12:03] <raphink> ernie : be aware that the console has tab completion
[12:04] <raphink> so typing `bitc` and then tab should be enough
[12:04] <raphink> I guess
[12:04] <raphink> don' thave this app installed
[12:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hrm
[12:04] <raphink> (and i don't want it, since i'm happy with konversation :))
[12:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > aye
[12:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > konversation is easier to use it seems
[12:05] <raphink> konversation is integrated in KDE, too
[12:05] <raphink> bitchx is not
[12:05] <raphink> ;)
[12:05] <[Evil] [Ernie] > bitchx has a neat terminal look to it
[12:05] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah, that would be why!
[12:05] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think!
[12:05] <raphink> if you want a kde-based irc client
[12:05] <raphink> there are others
[12:05] <raphink> most kde apps have their name beginning with a k
[12:05] <raphink> ;)
[12:06] <raphink> so you've got kvirc, ksirc, etc...
[12:06] <[Evil] [Ernie] > unsure if you're very familiar with windows applications
[12:06] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i've used mIRC for years
[12:06] <[Evil] [Ernie] > the nice part was the fact that you could script anything you wanted into the client....
[12:06] <raphink> type `apt-cache search irc client kde` in a console
[12:06] <raphink> you can script a lot in konversation, too
[12:06] <raphink> in any language you want
[12:06] <raphink> :)
[12:07] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hm!
[12:07] <raphink> and even use dcop to communicate with other kde apps
[12:07] <[Evil] [Ernie] > Really!
[12:07] <raphink> e.g. if you want to get the track being played in amarok
[12:07] <raphink> ;)
[12:07] <xwolf-> !mov
[12:07] <ubotu> xwolf-: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <xwolf-> !quicktime
[12:07] <ubotu> methinks quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime0" package (for Ubuntu 6.06) or "libquicktime1" (for Ubuntu 5.10).
[12:08] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i didnt see scripting stuff in the help file =o
[12:08] <inaciog> hi everybody, is there any problem going on with the kubuntu repositories?
[12:09] <[Evil] [Ernie] > im not experiencing any problems
[12:09] <inaciog> weird
[12:09] <inaciog> i'm getting BREAK (install) for any package
[12:09] <inaciog> I just installed 6.06
[12:17] <Leqtic> DOes anyone know how to make auto sudo in kubuntu?
[12:18] <jme__> Leqtic: do 'su -' and then all your command will be like after sudo
[12:18] <Leqtic> ah hey jme__ u here too :)
[12:18] <Leqtic> I just reinstalled
[12:19] <Leqtic> Wanna do stuff straigh this time and make it my first choice OS instead of windows
[12:19] <Leqtic> i did su
[12:19] <Leqtic> then it wants a password
[12:20] <Leqtic> and i type my password but it says Auth failed
[12:20] <jme__> yep same password as the sudoone
[12:20] <jme__> 'su -'
[12:20] <Leqtic> nah
[12:20] <jme__> well it is your root password :)
[12:20] <Leqtic> dude.. i typed my pass same as I use for sudo
[12:20] <jme__> it better be working :)
[12:20] <Leqtic> doesnt
[12:20] <Hawkwind> I get the same error here
[12:20] <jme__> ?
[12:20] <Hawkwind> su - doesn't recognize the sudo password
[12:20] <Leqtic> sudo -i  password works
[12:20] <Leqtic> su doest
[12:21] <DarkRaven>  i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:21] <erov> sudo passwd
[12:21] <jme__> ok ubuntu change the stuff then :)
[12:21] <jme__> 'su -
[12:21] <erov> then set a passwd for root
[12:21] <inaciog> anybody has any clue of what may be happening? I have universe enabled, but if I try to install firefox I get "Package firefox has no installation candidate"
[12:21] <erov> then su <new root pass> root doesnt have a pass by default
[12:21] <jme__> su - worked on any unix for the last 20 years :)
[12:21] <DarkRaven> jme__ lol
[12:21] <Hawkwind> jme__: But Ubuntu doesn't use su by default
[12:21] <erov> root-less adminstration.. less room for fuck ups.. but you can set a root passwd by using sudo to do it
[12:22] <DarkRaven> with ubuntu you can use sudo
[12:22] <erov> then su will work.. using the new root password you set
[12:22] <DarkRaven>  i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:22] <erov> or just type login at the prompt... then login as root
[12:22] <jme__> erov: well it is 'rootless' shell maybe :) not not admin :)
[12:22] <Leqtic> lol christ
[12:22] <Leqtic> guys please ure confusing me
[12:22] <Leqtic> I cna login as sudo -i
[12:22] <Leqtic> can
[12:23] <Hawkwind> Leqtic: sudo passwd
[12:23] <Leqtic> then what
[12:23] <DarkRaven> what is the command to see if the nvidia module is reale charged?
[12:23] <Hawkwind> Leqtic: Set the password you want
[12:23] <erov> sudo passwd, su (use the new password)
[12:23] <Hawkwind> Leqtic: Then you can su -
[12:23] <erov> or su -
[12:23] <Leqtic> Hawkwind thanks =)
[12:23] <Leqtic> worked
[12:23] <erov> but root doesnt have a pass by default if i remember
[12:23] <Leqtic> thanks guys =)
[12:23] <Leqtic> helped quite alot
[12:23] <Leqtic> erov:  u remember correctly
[12:24] <Leqtic> how do u make that u don't have to type password everytime u open adept?
[12:24] <DarkRaven> i think you can't
[12:24] <erov> now THAT i want to know
[12:24] <jme__> kdesu has no timeout in the config ?
[12:24] <erov> because in an earlier version i saw a checkbox to let the wallet keep it
[12:24] <jme__> something like you type it once and it remain root for say 5min ?
[12:24] <jme__> gnomesu has something like that
[12:25] <Leqtic> okay well if it doesnt work then it doesnt, nothing you can do
[12:25] <Leqtic> =) has anyone actually fixed Kismet on Kubuntu?
[12:25] <erov> wtf is kismet :p
[12:25] <DarkRaven>  i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:25] <Tommy2k4> panning in opera with the mousewheel scrolls really slow =/
[12:25] <Tommy2k4> in windows it normally accelerates
[12:27] <erov> what video card tommy
[12:28] <jme__> http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdesu/sec-password-keeping.html
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> onboard
[12:28] <jme__> For your comfort, KDE su implements a keep password feature.
[12:28] <Tommy2k4> intel 810 i think
[12:28] <edu> tem brasileiro aqui?
[12:28] <DarkRaven> someone help me plz....
[12:28] <DarkRaven>  i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:28] <Leqtic> Does anyone know how I get a little "My computer" on my desktop?
[12:28] <jme__> who was it asking for adept and asking for passwd everytime ?
[12:29] <erov> me jme
[12:29] <erov> and someone else
[12:29] <Leqtic> jme__:  me
[12:29] <Leqtic> lol
[12:29] <edu> tem brasileiro aqui?
[12:29] <erov> i am reading it now
[12:29] <edu> tem brasileiro aqui?
[12:29] <erov> NO BRASIL
[12:29] <Leqtic> erov:  wtf?
[12:29] <edu> thanks
[12:29] <Leqtic> brasil problems...had them in Tibia :/
[12:29] <jme__> erov: Leqtic: go see For your comfort, KDE su implements a keep password feature. http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kdesu/sec-password-keeping.html
[12:29] <jme__> this is about this
[12:29] <Leqtic> jme__:  thanks
[12:29] <Leqtic> jme__:
[12:29] <Leqtic> do u know how to
[12:30] <Leqtic>  how I get a little "My computer" on my desktop?
[12:30] <jme__> yeah :)
[12:30] <jme__> ah, no :)
[12:30] <Leqtic> .. :/
[12:30] <jme__> not hard tho :)
[12:30] <erov> right click
[12:30] <jme__> likely just a shortcut
[12:30] <erov> link to a location
[12:31] <Leqtic> done :9 thanks
[12:31] <Leqtic> You learn something new everyday :D
[12:31] <Leqtic> media:/
[12:31] <erov> system:/media oryes that
[12:34] <Leqtic> GOD this new Linux stuff feels so....GOOOD :D
[12:34] <erov> it does, at that
[12:34] <erov> i really like the kde desktop/suite
[12:35] <Leqtic> :( not me, but it beats GNOME (HATE MAC)
[12:36] <erov> i didnt even give gnome a try
[12:36] <Leqtic> same here :D
[12:36] <Leqtic> havent even tried it, but I have tried Mac, and I didnt like it
[12:37] <Leqtic> erov:  should I get build-essential?
[12:37] <SOULRiDER> hi
[12:37] <erov> if you want to compile and such
[12:37] <erov> yes
[12:37] <newuserAK> i use macs and i find kde to be much more intuitive than gnome
[12:37] <DarkRaven> I SOLVED!!!! MODULE NAME CHANGED FROM NVIDIA TO NVIDIA-KERNEL
[12:37] <erov> DarkRaven: doh
[12:37] <DarkRaven> this is how to solve nvidia issues!
[12:37] <DarkRaven> lol
[12:38] <DarkRaven> before i used nvidia now i must use nvidia-kernel in /etc/modules
[12:38] <SOULRiDER> do you mind if i ask some simple newbie questions? :P
[12:38] <DarkRaven> asd soulrider
[12:38] <DarkRaven> ask
[12:38] <SOULRiDER> ok
[12:38] <erov> ask away.. anything's game here
[12:38] <SOULRiDER> well, how easy is this disto for people who have had almost no experience with Linux?
[12:38] <Leqtic> SOULRiDER:  not that much
[12:39] <Leqtic> SOULRiDER:  Im a newb... and I didn't even knew how to make a shortcut :/
[12:39] <SOULRiDER> O.O
[12:39] <DarkRaven> soulrider is the easiest
[12:39] <SOULRiDER> well, i tried other distros
[12:39] <erov> pretty easy if you are good at reading and solving things.. you cant compare it to previous OS's .. but it becomes familiar as you go along
[12:39] <DarkRaven> i never used linux
[12:39] <SOULRiDER> and what was really complicated for me
[12:39] <Leqtic> SOULRiDER:  first remove caps from your name, second get something easier, like Mandriva/Mandrake
[12:39] <SOULRiDER> was compiling and such
[12:39] <DarkRaven> and i have throw windows out the the "window" after trying kubuntu
[12:39] <erov> you make a shortcut same as windows.. right click.. shortcut
[12:39] <DarkRaven> soulrider is all automatizated in kubuntu & ubuntu
[12:39] <DarkRaven> auto mount
[12:39] <DarkRaven> auto update
[12:39] <SOULRiDER> not all my nick is caps :P but ill change it
[12:40] <DarkRaven> auto kernel compilation and so on :P
[12:40] <erov> soulrider.. there is no compiling needed unless you want something not readily available in binary repositories
[12:40] <DarkRaven> soulrider packages are all ready for click & install
[12:40] <Leqtic> erov:  Kimser requires :)
[12:40] <soulrider> uhm k
[12:40] <soulrider> but what if i downlaod a program
[12:40] <soulrider> wont i ahve to compile ?
[12:40] <soulrider> as you can see im an utter n00b :P
[12:40] <DarkRaven> 4 moths ago installing gentoo i though that i would never be a linux user, and now i'm proud to be a  linux user and to have quitted forever with windows :P
[12:40] <jme__> soulrider: nope
[12:41] <jme__> soulrider: you should give it a try thru a livecd
[12:41] <DarkRaven> soulrider you can download program free vi a download manager called synaptic
[12:41] <erov> if it is not available.. then yes.. but most programs are readily pre-compiled
[12:41] <DarkRaven> or adept
[12:41] <Leqtic> this Dist is quite buggy too, sometimes applications such as Wireless Assistant won't even start
[12:41] <DarkRaven> in your base installation
[12:41] <Leqtic> I just started Wireless Assistant it loads for like 20 seconds then shuts down
[12:41] <DarkRaven> leqtic wireless is working on my pc even if i don't have a wireless network
[12:41] <DarkRaven> lol
[12:41] <jme__> soulrider: you download the CD, rip it and then boot it. without altering your hard disk, you will run linux directly our the cd
[12:42] <jme__> soulrider: this is made to ease the discovery of linux without taking the risk of removing your previous OS
[12:42] <soulrider> yes, iw as planning to run a live distro
[12:42] <soulrider> and that leads me to a second question
[12:42] <erov> wireless works OK here.. i did have to play around.. it's because I bought a cheap pci wireless card though.. an acx111 deal.. the TI chipsets.. ugh
[12:42] <soulrider> it will sound lame but, can i run it form a pen drive? :P
[12:42] <soulrider> i dotn feel like burning a CD .P
[12:42] <kuzmaster> hey all
[12:42] <kuzmaster> !kde
[12:42] <erov> yes soulrider i believe so
[12:42] <Leqtic> !kde
[12:42] <soulrider> ok :)
[12:42] <kuzmaster> !gnome
[12:42] <soulrider> i guess ill give it a go
[12:42] <Leqtic> !gnome
[12:42] <soulrider> oh wait
[12:43] <iNiku> soulrider: I doubt it will work
[12:43] <soulrider> java apps i make will still run on linux right?
[12:43] <erov> the image is meant to be a cd i guess but if not.. there are ways to make a cd image bootable from a pen drive anyways
[12:43] <Leqtic> Erhm should I be worried that im trying to "detect my current plattform" for like 10 minutes,,, OMFG IM LOOSING IT.. it worked just before I reinstalled Kubuntu
[12:43] <iNiku> soulrider: CD booting is different from booting from an USB device
[12:43] <jme__> soulrider: right
[12:43] <Leqtic> Why doesn't it work now.
[12:43] <erov> i saw some software for making a live cd -> usb
[12:43] <kuzmaster> what version does kubuntu dapper drake comewith?
[12:43] <soulrider> well
[12:43] <soulrider> im just too mean to burna CD
[12:43] <jme__> soulrider: and burn the cd, it will be faster and easier for you
[12:43] <soulrider> but iw ill if i ahve to
[12:43] <DarkRaven> soulrider there is only a problem.... if you have an usb modem prepare yourself to die LOOOL
[12:44] <soulrider> allt hat pirace makes up for it anyways :P
[12:44] <erov> k
[12:44] <Leqtic> .....can someone help me
[12:44] <soulrider> no lol
[12:44] <Leqtic> I had Detecting your current platform"  up for like  10 minutes now
[12:44] <soulrider> i connect to te internet through ppop
[12:44] <soulrider> or soemhtign like that
[12:44] <DarkRaven> soulrider you got ethernet?
[12:44] <DarkRaven> allright
[12:44] <Leqtic> It can't find my NICs (i got a wireless and a non wireless) it worked just before I reiinstalled Ubuntu :/
[12:44] <DarkRaven> :P
[12:44] <soulrider> err, me thinks :P
[12:44] <DarkRaven> so you would have not problem with kubuntu
[12:44] <soulrider> pppoe thats it
[12:44] <soulrider> cool
[12:45] <soulrider> thanks for the help :)
[12:45] <DarkRaven> yes but pppoe via ethernet?
[12:45] <DarkRaven> you are using LAN?
[12:45] <soulrider> i think so
[12:45] <soulrider> this is how i ahve it
[12:45] <soulrider> modem connected to a router
[12:45] <soulrider> which is utter crap
[12:45] <soulrider> and my comp connected to the router
[12:45] <soulrider> but i still gotta dial
[12:45] <erov> ahhhh
[12:45] <soulrider> because the fucking router doesnt want to do so
[12:46] <soulrider> even if i make the switch ill stillhave to keep windoze here
[12:46] <soulrider> g2g
[12:46] <soulrider> bbbl
[12:46] <soulrider> see you adn thanks!
[12:47] <FishBoy> hello, is this the kubuntu  chat thing?
[12:48] <iNiku> no, it's the kubuntu irc channel :)
[12:48] <FishBoy> all the same to me :p
[12:49] <DarkRaven> going to bed
[12:49] <erov> later
[12:49] <DarkRaven> bye :))
[12:49] <FishBoy> well could i get help here?
[12:49] <erov> yes, fish
[12:49] <FishBoy> i just installed kubuntu and i don't what the root password is i never set one
[12:50] <erov> ok , just went over this, there is no root password by default.. you mostly use the user acount and sudo for things.. if you want to set a root pass... then 'sudo passwd' at a prompt
[12:50] <erov> but understand it was designed to be controlled on a need basis to protect the user
[12:51] <iNiku> or, in other words, sudo gives you access to the root account using your own user password
[12:51] <iNiku> hence no root password needed
[12:51] <erov> put better
[12:52] <Shaezsche> what will happen to my kubuntu if i install the latest untstable kernel?
[12:52] <FishBoy> cool it worked
[12:53] <FishBoy> thanks
[12:54] <tobberoth> Is there something wrong with my ipod/kubuntu if it won't automatically mount my ipod to /media/ipod ??
[12:54] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: nothing pops up when you plug it in?
[12:55] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: go to system://  and the storage devices
[12:55] <tobberoth> JohnFlux I can access it and it's put on my desktop, but it's mounted in /media/sdg1
[12:55] <JohnFlux> oh right.  so? :)
[12:55] <kuzmaster> what version dose dapper drake come with?
[12:56] <tobberoth> JohnFlux: Why isn't it put in /ipod? It's an iPod you see :) ^^
[12:56] <kuzmaster> what version of KDE, dose kubuntu dapper drake come with
[12:56] <JohnFlux> kuzmaster: what version of what?
[12:56] <kuzmaster> kde
[12:56] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: what makes you think it should go in /media/ipod ?
[12:56] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: or just guessing right?
[12:56] <tobberoth> JohnFlux: It's an ipod, and since there is an ipod directory, i figured it would be put there.
[12:57] <tobberoth> And amarok crashes because of my iPod.. so I think there's something wrong.
[12:57] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: you have a  /media/ipod  folder?
[12:57] <tobberoth> Yeah.
[12:57] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: and you didn't create it I take ;)
[12:57] <tobberoth> Yeah.
[12:57] <tobberoth> My only guess is that GNOME put my ipod there, but KDE doesn't.
[12:57] <JohnFlux> ah maybe
[12:58] <tobberoth> Which leaves me with two options: 1. KDE doesn't think it's an ipod. There we go for the amarok error. 2. KDE simple doesn't call it an ipod.
[12:58] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: KDE sees just a mass storage device
[12:58] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: past that, KDE doesn't care
[12:58] <tobberoth> Hmm.. but amarok seems to care :/
[12:59] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: if amarok is crashing, there's something wrong with amarok...
[12:59] <JohnFlux> right
[12:59] <JohnFlux> maybe ask on #amarok
[12:59] <JohnFlux> better yet, file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[12:59] <JohnFlux> only take a couple of minutes
[01:00] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: however..
[01:00] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: you said this was kde simple?
[01:01] <tobberoth> JohnFlux, I think I might have a fix.. hold on
[01:04] <tobberoth> JohnFlux: It's behaving strange, but at least it's working. I tried to rename it something, so it would mount into /media/thatname and then amarok would manually search there..
[01:04] <tobberoth> Didn't work, but this works just as well I suppose
[01:05] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: ask in #amaork
[01:05] <JohnFlux> tobberoth: ask in #amarok
[01:06] <tobberoth> JohnFlux: I did, they didn't have a clue either :)
[01:06] <JohnFlux> ah :/
[01:06] <JohnFlux> amarok crashes?
[01:07] <tobberoth> JohnFlux: No, it seems to work right now.. hopefully it keeps it up :)
[01:07] <JohnFlux> I don't have a checkout of kde3 so I can't even debug it
[01:07] <JohnFlux> best I can say is file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[01:08] <FearMoth> how do I add the universe and multiverse repositories in adept?
[01:12] <Firetech> hmm, is there any way to move files around on an ext3 parition, so it can be resized to a smaller size with the same information left on it? (my files are a bit wildly distributed right now)
[01:17] <JohnFlux> Firetech: are you using qtparted for the resizing?
[01:19] <Firetech> JohnFlux: qtparted can't handle resizing ext3
[01:19] <JohnFlux> yeah i just noticed
[01:19] <JohnFlux> hmm, google around :)
[01:19] <Firetech> I use partition magic
[01:20] <Firetech> meh, it's only 5 GB of data, I can backup that :P
[01:20] <Firetech> I have a USB-drive anyway
[01:25] <slow-motion> n8
[01:30] <Leqtic_> DOes anyone know how to put a minimize ALL near the K button?
[01:32] <Snake> Leqtic_: like a show desktop button?
[01:32] <JohnFlux> Leqtic_: right click, add applet, then chose show desktop
[01:33] <Snake> Leqtic_: follow above instructions
[01:33] <Snake> :)
[01:33] <Snake> JohnFlux: anything intresting in kde4?
[01:33] <JohnFlux> I hope so :)
[01:33] <JohnFlux> i'm working on ksysguard
[01:34] <JohnFlux> yeah, just quietly coding
[01:34] <Snake> ksysguard... whats that dooo
[01:34] <Leqtic_> thanks Snake :D
[01:34] <JohnFlux> Snake: the task manager thing
[01:34] <Snake> Leqtic_: Thank JohnFlux, he wrote the instructions :P
[01:34] <JohnFlux> Snake: when you press ctrl+esc
[01:34] <Snake> JohnFlux: ahhhhhhhhhh good stuff. never use it, but good stuff :P
[01:35] <JohnFlux> Snake: not many people use it - it's pretty awful
[01:35] <Leqtic_> ops
[01:35] <JohnFlux> Snake: but it's getting a lot nicer in kde
[01:35] <Leqtic_> JohnFlux:  thanks.. got confused by the colours :D
[01:35] <Snake> JohnFlux: not really much reason to use it really, pstree and killall suit me fine
[01:35] <Snake> But you can search, which is nice
[01:35] <tobberoth> I prefer GUI approches to ps aux myself.
[01:35] <JohnFlux> Snake: there's a lot more to it
[01:36] <Snake> JohnFlux: prolly is :)
[01:36] <JohnFlux> Snake: the memory reporting is one of the things I've been working on
[01:36] <JohnFlux> for example, it now reports the memory an app uses in X
[01:36] <JohnFlux> it also shows the title of the app
[01:36] <JohnFlux> kinda like in windows
[01:36] <Snake> Thats cool
[01:37] <Snake> Oooo pretty charts
[01:37] <bobesponja__> what is the default mysql user on kubuntu?
[01:37] <[Evil] [Ernie] > is amarok supposed to be able to play mp3's by default?
[01:37] <[Evil] [Ernie] > or do i need to download a package
[01:38] <Snake> uniq: tell [Evil] [Ernie]  about mp3
[01:38] <Snake> grr
[01:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !mp3
[01:38] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:38] <Snake> yea you could do that
[01:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thanks =o
[01:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > always forget about that
[01:38] <Snake> Hehe
[01:39] <Snake> JohnFlux: wow this is a useful tool
[01:39] <Snake> haha
[01:39] <Celeste> hi!
[01:39] <Snake> Welcome
[01:41] <Celeste> Does "kubuntu" have a live PLUS installer CD like ubuntu?
[01:41] <Snake> Celeste: yes, just get the Desktop Kubuntu CD
[01:41] <Snake> :)
[01:42] <Celeste> Snake, ok thank you!  Snake may I ask you one more thing?
[01:42] <Snake> Go for it
[01:42] <Celeste> thank you
[01:42] <Snake> Also, no need to ask permission, just ask, and if someone can answer, they will :)
[01:42] <Celeste> I do have a ubuntu CD here ... I installed it and did a "apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop"  then
[01:43] <Celeste> "kicker"  -  this is the panel sometimes (3 times a day)  crashes
[01:43] <Celeste> this is annoying
[01:43] <Snake> Wow thats bad..
[01:43] <Celeste> I wanted to know if the same will happen if I download kubuntu itself
[01:43] <Snake> It shouldn't
[01:43] <Snake> Kubuntu (especially kicker) is really stable
[01:44] <Snake> Celeste: it would also depend on what applets you have running
[01:44] <Celeste> so kubuntu !=  ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:44] <Celeste> no other applets
[01:44] <Celeste> well ... a clock
[01:44] <Imagery> hello, I suddenly got trouble playing video files with xv (which is default), but specifying other outputs like x11 works fine. all players crash I have tried so far crashes with that. X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 2 0
[01:44] <Snake> Celeste: Not exactly, if you do Ubuntu then add kubuntu-desktop, you have lots of gnome applications and gtk librarys taking up space etc, that you wouldnt need if you only got Kubuntu
[01:45] <Snake> Imagery: I have no idea :( Perhaps some else will
[01:45] <Celeste> Imagery, also when I am no dev,  it *could* be a good idea to ask in #xorg
[01:45] <Celeste> Imagery, it seems to be more an xorg based problem
[01:45] <Imagery> hrm
[01:45] <Celeste> Snake, so I should download kubuntu ...
[01:45] <Imagery> I'll try asking there
[01:45] <Snake> Celeste: if all you want is kubuntu, yepperz
[01:46] <Snake> Celeste: and it is much more stable than what you describe, 3 times a day is terriable
[01:46] <Celeste> Snake, what would you say to "toshiba laptop + kubuntu" ?
[01:46] <Celeste> Snake, following things should work:
[01:46] <Celeste> 1) the onboard 56K modem
[01:46] <Celeste> 2) the ehernet card
[01:47] <Celeste> 3) sound
[01:47] <Celeste> 4) a USB stick for WLAN
[01:47] <Celeste> the rest should be ok
[01:47] <Snake> Celeste: Run the kubuntu desktop cd, see what works and what doesnt, if it works on ubuntu, it will probly more than likely work on kubuntu
[01:47] <Snake> Celeste: also check this:
[01:47] <Snake> !laptops
[01:47] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake
[01:47] <Snake> !laptop
[01:47] <ubotu> laptop is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[01:48] <Celeste> how can I find out what Laptop I have?
[01:48] <Celeste> i just know its a toshiba
[01:48] <Snake> Celeste: im not sure what version your running, but you could try to look it up on that first link ubotu spit out
[01:48] <Celeste> Dapper
[01:48] <Snake> Celeste: No idea, perhaps check the stickers underneath etc
[01:48] <Rede> ok, so adept wants me to update my kernel. is everything going to work properly if i do or will i have to reconfigure things?
[01:48] <Imagery> but even though this "might" be a xorg problem, it was working earlier, and I havent updated xorg
[01:49] <Rede> like my wifi/nvidia drivers/etc
[01:49] <Snake> Rede: shouldnt have to reconfigure anything, they are just security pathcs
[01:49] <Snake> Rede: ehhh wifi MAYBE
[01:49] <Imagery> it could have happened when I went from mainstream kernel to the K7 kernel
[01:49] <Rede> even if my wifi installed automatically?
[01:49] <Rede> or is it just if i manually installed it?
[01:50] <mart> hey.  can anyone say where to find out more about dapper-backports?
[01:50] <Snake> Rede: Usually just if you used a program such as ndiswrapper, if your wifi was auto detected then id say your gonna be okay
[01:50] <mart> what's the policy for stuff going in?
[01:50] <Snake> mart: what about them?
[01:50] <Celeste> Snake, thank you for your help
[01:50] <Imagery> Rede: you might have to install restricted modules
[01:50] <Snake> Celeste: no problem
[01:50] <Celeste> last question:  What download server gives me up to 400 KB / sec in Europe ?
[01:50] <joe__> yay \o. problem one overcome :)
[01:50] <Rede> awesome, im just feeling lazy and don't want to fight with my computer right now haha :D
[01:51] <joe__> i have internet :)
[01:51] <Snake> mart: check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports?highlight=%28backports%29 perhaps?
[01:51] <crimsun_> mart: it has to build essentially unchanged from the current devel branch, not introduce API/ABI changes, not depend on newer build-dependencies.
[01:51] <Snake> joe__: congrads!
[01:51] <Snake> Celeste: I dont know if thats answerable, as it depends on how far you are from the servers
[01:52] <yogi> Anyone know why 'kcmshell privacy' would behave differently from the kcontrol module of same name??
[01:52] <mart> crimsun_: "essentially unchanged from the current devel branch" == "must use same packaging scripts as 'edgy'" ?
[01:52] <crimsun_> mart: within reason, yes.
[01:52] <mart> ok, makes sense.
[01:52] <joe__> thanks snake - by crikey has linux changed since i last tried it :) - i have no clue how to do anything now - where can i find a how-to install guide for new drivers and packages and such?
[01:52] <Snake> ubotu: tell joe about packages
[01:53] <crimsun_> use Adept to install new packages. You shouldn't have to mess with drivers.
[01:53] <xjeffx> would anyone care to help me watch embedded wmv files from sites like metacafe.com?
[01:53] <Snake> ehh
[01:53] <Snake> joe__: thats not a good factoid
[01:53] <Snake> ignore it
[01:53] <Snake> ubotu: tell xjeffx about wmv
[01:54] <Snake> joe__: well pretty much to install programs/ packages you could use adept (or add/remove programs) and for drivers, just depends what you need, ubotu is a great help as well, if you know what factoids to call
[01:54] <yogi> Riddell-awa:you home? ;-)
[01:54] <Snake> I think -awa means away ;D
[01:55] <yogi> Snake:uh-oh... lol
[01:55] <LjL> i'm sure it can mean "home" in some language
[01:55] <Snake> god lots of rejoins and crap.... I wonder if freenode is playing with servers again
[01:55] <Snake> LjL: tru.dat
[01:55] <joe__> well i tried to install mp3 support for example but it failed, the xvid update i tried also failed by a different method :S and the firefox browser package wouldn't install either even with root the commands failed
[01:55] <chess> does kbuntu come with a gui for samba
[01:55] <LjL> chess: yes
[01:56] <LjL> i'd rather avoid like the plague, but still
[01:56] <mart> crimsun_: oh, right.  there's nothing there.  I was expecting to see things like amarok there.
[01:56] <chess> how do i run it
[01:57] <LjL> chess: it's under "Internet & Network" in the control panel
[01:57] <Snake> joe__: why did it fail?
[01:57] <crimsun_> mart: considering nothing's really in Edgy yet...
[01:57] <Snake> hehe
[01:58] <mart> crimsun_: no, it's just the fact that amarok packages have already been built.
[01:58] <crimsun_> mart: and again, considering they're not in Edgy...
[01:58] <chess> not there, do i apt-get install ?
[01:58] <LjL> chess: dunno, i think it's there by default, not absolutely sure though. where have you looked, in System Settings? if so, look in the actual control panel instead
[01:59] <LjL> chess: (you can start it by running "kcontrol" if you don't have it in your panel)
[01:59] <Snake> chess: check kcontrol
[01:59] <chess> ty bud
[01:59] <mart> right, so they don't just need to build in edgy, but actually _be_ in edgy.  that's different :)
[01:59] <kuzmaster> do i need to put anytihng in terminal after changing my boot.lst?
[01:59] <joe__> different reasons in each case - the firefox one for instance gave a error with privilages when runniing the script
[02:00] <LjL> kuzmaster: no
[02:00] <Snake> joe__: what script?
[02:00] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:00] <kuzmaster> thanx
[02:00] <kuzmaster> !mount
[02:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:00] <joe__> installnewfirefox.sh
[02:00] <kuzmaster> !fat
[02:00] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kuzmaster
[02:00] <Snake> joe__: for firefox you can just type "sudo apt-get install firefox" in a terminal, or open up adept and search/install firefox
[02:00] <LjL> !msg the bot
[02:00] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:01] <joe__> so as i've downloaded the package already i need to use adept i can't just run the install script?
[02:01] <crimsun_> mart: none of us who can upload to -backports are terribly eager to; we have lots of stuff flowing into -updates; there's planning for the dev conference in Paris; and well, it's the weekend.
[02:01] <joe__> or adept runs the script??
[02:02] <mart> crimsun_: fine, I can use the packages on kubuntu.org.
[02:02] <crimsun_> mart: yep
[02:02] <Snake> joe__: you dont need to download anything from any websites or anything. Do this for me, click the kmenu, click add/remove programs, type firefox in the box, then set it to Any Suite and check Unsupported. Volia.
[02:03] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me how to mount a fat32 drive
[02:03] <kuzmaster> it is in storage media, but its un-mounterd there
[02:03] <neoncode> How do you get drop-shadows with kWin without Xgl?
[02:04] <Snake> joe__: easy eh???
[02:04] <LjL> !ntfs
[02:04] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:04] <LjL> think it also covers FAT, despite the name
[02:04] <kuzmaster> ok
[02:04] <kuzmaster> thanxs
[02:05] <goldenear> neoncode: with xcompose I guess, but I can't find how to do it
[02:05] <chess> ty guys vmuch
[02:05] <Snake> chess: np
[02:05] <joe__> yup got it - crikey thats easy =) - but it's grayed out and won't select, how do i overcome that
[02:05] <Snake> grayed out..
[02:06] <Snake> hm
[02:06] <joe__> yup - unselectable
[02:06] <Snake> hang on
[02:06] <Snake> joe__: wow thats weird... hmm
[02:07] <Snake> joe__: did it have you put in your password when you started it?
[02:07] <MasterEvilAce> anyone have experience with REALVNC?
[02:08] <Snake> No, sorry
[02:08] <joe__> yeh - i'll try restart as i had adept open already via system/adept and it's the same app right - could have messed it up
[02:09] <Snake> joe__: yes that will mess it up, only one program can lock in the /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:09] <Snake> joe__: and the add/remove programs thing is just a "dummed down" front end for new comers, its easier than the full adept program
[02:10] <joe__> drat - still grayed-out
[02:10] <Snake> 0.o
[02:10] <Snake> no idea then :(
[02:11] <Snake> joe__: all I can suggest is perhaps restart the system and try again.. :(
[02:11] <joe__> also at the bottom it says 937 installed - 937 available does that mean i can't install any new packages?
[02:12] <Snake> joe__: check this out
[02:12] <Snake> joe__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuAddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:13] <Snake> Then try to get firefox
[02:13] <joe__> doh!!! i just ran the normal adept and it says it's installed?
[02:14] <joe__> i guess i've messed it up - with trying to do it with the shell commands
[02:14] <Snake> uh oh
[02:14] <Snake> joe__: For future refrence, there are 20000 programs in those repos, there will hardly ever be a time when you need to go to a site and install it "windows style"
[02:15] <Snake> joe__: try this, open a terminal, and sudo apt-get remove firefox, then try to reinstall using add/remove
[02:16] <joe__> will do - thx for teh help :)
[02:17] <Imagery> btw, I have another issue though. whenever the kernel update script updates menu.lst (for instance when (un)installing kernels, it sets "root (hd1,0)", but (hd0,0) is actually correct. so I have to change that each time
[02:21] <kuzmaster> how do i set vlc media play for the defult for all video files?
[02:22] <Snake> kuzmaster: open konqueror go to settings, configure konquror, then file associations
[02:22] <Snake> kuzmaster: then select your vid formats, and move VLC up the list
[02:23] <kuzmaster> ok, thnax
[02:23] <vincent__> hi, what do you use to retrieve podcasts under kde ?
[02:24] <Snake> vincent__: Amarok can do that
[02:24] <vincent__> no opml support
[02:24] <Snake> :(
[02:24] <vincent__> so with 76 feeds...
[02:24] <Snake> Hmm... well thats what I use, I dont really know of any others :-/
[02:24] <Snake> sorry man
[02:24] <vincent__> because ipodder and castpodder are a pain
[02:24] <vincent__> too much utf8 errors
[02:25] <Snake> vincent__: podracer perhaps?
[02:27] <vincent__> Snake: I give it a try
[02:27] <vincent__> seems more reliable
[02:27] <Snake> :)
[02:27] <vincent__> castpodder drove me creazy
[02:27] <jinho326> hi how do I setup my printer in kubuntu?
[02:29] <haider> jinho326: proberly in systemsettings -> printer
[02:30] <jinho326> funnything is I dont see it
[02:31] <jinho326> nm
[02:31] <jinho326> im an idiot
[02:31] <Healot> you are?
[02:32] <jinho326> yep
[02:32] <jinho326> a bit fat one
[02:32] <jinho326> thanks though
[02:37] <newuserAK> i have a toshiba satellite 1105 laptop (4 years old) and am having trouble setting up the wifi card.  when i check KInfoCenter, it says "No PCMCIA controller detected."
[02:37] <newuserAK> i think this is my problem, and is there any way to fix this?
[02:39] <Healot> !hardware
[02:39] <ubotu> it has been said that hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:39] <Healot> newuserAK: take a look at that HCL
[02:41] <FearMoth> can anyone recommend a good ftp client for kde?
[02:42] <Healot> newuserAK: all regarding Toshiba preconfigured portable computers
[02:42] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba
[02:53] <joe__> kubuntu has no build in support for mp3s it seems? - what the easiest way to enable mp3s ?
[02:54] <joe__> if i install lame - will that be enough
[02:55] <pboilar> Hi !
[02:55] <pboilar> I'm looking for ATI Driver for a All-In-Wonder 7500
[02:55] <Healot> !mp3
[02:55] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <pboilar> somebody can help me !
[02:55] <Healot> 9200 or lower is supported by the "ati" driver
[02:55] <Healot> !ati
[02:55] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:56] <[Nige] > anyone having luck with the big desktop with ATI?
[02:56] <pboilar> Everywhere I looking is write that Kubuntu Dapper support ATI but only 8500 and more
[02:57] <pboilar> If I read DivX or ScreenSaver with OpenGL everything is slow...
[02:57] <Healot> pboilar: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" again
[02:57] <[Nige] > i am guessing your not running the driver then, but the opensource mesa one
[02:58] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards >>
[02:59] <bogo> has anyone here installed Kubuntu 6.06 via the alternative CD ?
[02:59] <Healot> yes... bogo
[02:59] <pboilar> is write in comment columns "GRUB hangs if tv is connected(!)"
[03:00] <bogo> I've just installed it now and it didn't ask me to create a user
[03:00] <pboilar> It's better for UBuntu to install right driver if i connect and open TV !
[03:00] <bogo> it has boot up ok and now I'm at the login screen but can't log in
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> bogo: did you do server install?
[03:01] <bogo> no
[03:01] <Healot> he said alternate Cd...
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> Healot: right, which is where you can do a server install from.
[03:01] <bogo> I chose the 1st option, which was not server
[03:02] <bogo> and by the way, I'm at the graphical login (KDM), which doesn't come with the 'server' option
[03:02] <Healot> yes, that's right bogo
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> bogo: owell, trying to figure out why at this point isn't as important as getting you logged in :)
[03:03] <bogo> is there any magic built-in user??
[03:04] <bogo> I mean, why wouldn't it ask me for a user during install? I actually chose this CD so I could have more control over the installation
[03:04] <LeeJunFan> bogo: no, you can log in to a failsafe kernel when grub starts up at reboot hit esc.
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> bogo: I dunno, normally that doesn't happen unless you do the advanced install and accidentally skip that part.
[03:05] <bogo> hit ESC at the menu or after selecting one of the kernels?
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> bogo: well if you get the list you don't need to hit esc.
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> bogo: on systems that don't dual boot you normally don't get a menu list of kernels unless you hit esc first.
[03:07] <bogo> oh, I see. Now I'm at the Grub menu, should I select the 'recovery mode' ?
[03:07] <[Nige] > I am back. I can get the big desktop screens to sort of work, the 1st screen is okay, but I cant get over to the 2nd screen
[03:07] <[Nige] > it seems to be untouchable
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> bogo: yeah, that should put you into single mode.
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> bogo: which means you'll be operating as root.
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> bogo: so then you can create a user with useradd -m -s /bin/bash [username] , and set the password for them as well. Probably also want to add them to default groups.
[03:08] <LeeJunFan> bogo: with gpasswd
[03:09] <bogo> what's the '-m' parameter for?
[03:09] <LeeJunFan> bogo: this is the list of groups: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[03:09] <LeeJunFan> bogo: -m tells useradd to copy from /etc/skel to the new home dir, things like bashrc and bash_profile.
[03:09] <bogo> oh ok
[03:11] <bogo> LeeJunFan: so I do: gpasswd -a user group1 group2 group3 .... ?
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> bogo: actually I think it may not take multiple groups.
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> bogo: if you haven't done it already useradd -G [group1,group2,etc...]  should set them up as well.
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> bogo: yeah, gpasswd manpage doesn't look like multiple groups will work.
[03:13] <bogo> is there any difference between adm and admin groups ?
[03:13] <bogo> it complained that there is no admin group
[03:14] <Healot> why don't ubuntu use the "wheel" group instead?
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> bogo: now this is getting more interesting by the minute.
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> bogo: admin is used by sudo setup.
[03:14] <bogo> oh, so it's a lot worse than I thought
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> bogo: if you are in grp admin you are able to run sudo.
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> bogo: yeah, it seems that because it missed setting up the default user it also didn't setup the admin group or sudo permissions stuff.
[03:15] <Healot> bogo: but the user setup you missed right
[03:16] <bogo> oh well, I guess I'll try again tomorrow. I thoght: let me quickly install Kubuntu and go to bed. Foolish me
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> bogo: that's why, because you expected it to be quick and easy, sure fire way to break anything.
[03:17] <bogo> hehe
[03:17] <bogo> should have gotten the "User Friendly" version
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> bogo: I've never had that happen before, and I've done quite a few installs. But I have heard of it happening once or twice before.
[03:18] <joe__> do i have to use xine for mp3 - there's no addon for amorak?
[03:18] <Healot> !mp3
[03:18] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <Healot> !info libextra-codecs
[03:19] <crimsun_> (libxine-extracodecs)
[03:19] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:19] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB
[03:19] <bogo> LeeJunFan: ok then, thanks for the help. Maybe in the morning my brain will be better
[03:21] <joe__> ok - then but if i use xine packages it will only work in konquerer or a application that supports it - not amarok?
[03:22] <kuzmaster> where do the superkaramba themes get saved to?
[03:22] <kuzmaster> when you download them via the program
[03:23] <joe__> ah cool - amorak can use xine :) - answered my own question :P
[03:24] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(
[03:28] <joe__> libxine-extracodecs says BREAK (install) - what does this mean?
[03:29] <geneo91> it means it will break your install
[03:30] <JavaByte> drat! - it's a clean install so what can i do - are there any alternatives
[03:30] <geneo91> mplayer
[03:30] <JavaByte> or does i just mean it's unsupported?
[03:31] <geneo91> no
[03:31] <JavaByte> it's serious then?
[03:31] <geneo91> yes
[03:31] <JavaByte> so mplayer - any good?
[03:31] <geneo91> best thing there is for linux media player
[03:32] <JavaByte> i quiet like amorak too :( - i guess i might get it fixed later though
[03:33] <kwtm> How do I turn off auto-spellchecking in KMail, please?
[03:33] <geneo91> learn how to spell
[03:33] <ube> hey guys. is there an osx channel?
[03:34] <crimsun_> ##osx? No clue.
[03:34] <ube> i tried that and #osx
[03:34] <ube> ah found it
[03:34] <PyroMithrandir> why do some channels start with # and some start with ##?
[03:34] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(
[03:35] <ube> #macosx
[03:35] <geneo91> ##macosx
[03:35] <crimsun_> PyroMithrandir: possible official trademark concerns
[03:35] <Healot> ## for unregistered user if the # channel is locked?
[03:37] <geneo91> i dunno what happened to freenode but i cant login as my real nick anymore
[03:38] <n_n_p> that number appears to be the number i dial
[03:41] <th0m4s> poningru: ping
[03:42] <tyce> would debian mt package work on ubuntu
[03:42] <crimsun_> "mt"?
[03:42] <crimsun_> as in libqt3-mt?
[03:43] <geneo91> what wrong with ubtuntu mt package
[03:43] <tyce> I don't see lt listed
[03:43] <Healot> geneo91: what's wrong with mt packages
[03:43] <geneo91> it maybe included in another package
[03:44] <Healot> tyce: try to install such package first, see if any problem comes up?
[03:45] <tyce> I will try libqt3-mt
[03:45] <Healot> btw
[03:45] <Healot> Ubuntu has libqt3-mt package
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> Linux SCSI tape driver aware magnetic tape control (mt) is what what you need ?
[03:46] <geneo91> is that for tape drive
[03:47] <Healot> damn
[03:47] <Healot> why didn't you tell abotu that in the first place
[03:47] <poningru> arr?
[03:47] <Healot> Tape drive
[03:47] <poningru> th0m4s: pong
[03:48] <tyce> yes I am trying to get my EXABYTE Tape drive working
[03:48] <geneo91> hehe i left mine out this round tape drives are kinda obsoleite
[03:49] <DaSkreech> erov: Hi
[03:49] <erov> hi
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> Not really tape drives are the only sensible way of backing up massive amounts of data
[03:49] <geneo91> for what they cost and as slow as they are usb backup is much better
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> Storage Tek can restore at 20mb per second yes its expensive but its incomparible
[03:50] <Healot> geneo91: Tape is used for enterprise.. USB HDDs are lame
[03:50] <DaSkreech> erov: You can make sudo not ask for a password by editing /etc/sudoers/
[03:51] <geneo91> man i tell you i dont think mine backup would fit on one tape
[03:51] <Healot> it would fit
[03:51] <geneo91> 320 gb
[03:52] <Healot> 20meters tape could back up like 400GB of data
[03:52] <JavaByte> whats a dummy package?
[03:52] <Healot> metapackage JavaByte?
[03:54] <Healot> dummy package is used for maintainance of obsolete/old packages, I think
[03:55] <erov> ok, thanks
[03:55] <JavaByte> ah right - well thats another idea down the pan anyhow - mplayer is BREAK (install) too
[03:56] <geneo91> wait maybe you got wrong arch
[03:57] <JavaByte> maybe i should just convert 24gb of mp3s to ogg - looks like the only way to get them to play without BREAK (install)
[03:57] <geneo91> na use xmms
[03:58] <arafat> rock on!
[03:59] <geneo91> i thought you were looking to play videos
[03:59] <JavaByte> xmp-common is  the main package for that is it?
[03:59] <geneo91> xmms
[04:00] <geneo91> should be already installed
[04:01] <JavaByte> ah yeh but it doesn't work either tried 24 different .avi files and none work - will play mpeg though
[04:01] <geneo91> you need xmms-smpeg
[04:02] <JavaByte> uavailable anyhow
[04:02] <geneo91> then you dont have all repos enabled
[04:02] <JavaByte> greyed out in add/remove programs and in Adept itself it says BREAK (install)
[04:03] <geneo91> that stupid thing is worthless
[04:03] <JavaByte> is that the universe - multiverse thing - i've done that
[04:03] <Healot> JavaByte: donate your /etc/apt/sources.list file? will you?
[04:04] <Healot> to pastebin of course
[04:04] <geneo91> well use apt-get then
[04:04] <kuzmaster> !limewire
[04:04] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[04:04] <kuzmaster> !frostwire
[04:04] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[04:05] <geneo91> nicotine is good also
[04:05] <jamie> causes cancer though
[04:05] <geneo91> p2p
[04:05] <geneo91> causes jail
[04:06] <Healot> only in America/EU
[04:06] <JavaByte> wheres paste bin?
[04:06] <jamie> http://www.pastebin.coom
[04:06] <jamie> oops
[04:06] <Healot> !paste
[04:06] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[04:06] <jamie> http://www.pastebin.com
[04:07] <Healot> damn Holland's domain name
[04:08] <jamie> my internet is painfully slow tonight (road runner, but feeling more like dial up tonight).  Last time I have a problem, the technician had some kind of program on his laptop that analyzed the connection, checked my "levels" and interference
[04:08] <DaSkreech> !backports
[04:08] <ubotu> [backports]  Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:08] <jamie> is there a program like that I can get for my linux box for free?
[04:09] <Healot> jamie: be a Linux Professional? or join FSF :)
[04:09] <JavaByte> http://pastebin.com/714199
[04:13] <nate_> what up sons
[04:13] <nate_> kubuntu is coo
[04:14] <Healot> JavaByte: if you a gracious, replace the content of you /etc/apt/sources.list file with this
[04:14] <nate_> hello is anyone there???
[04:14] <Healot> http://pastebin.com/714202
[04:14] <Healot> not one of your sons
[04:14] <kuzmaster> is it possible to hide the icon to my flash drive on my deskto
[04:14] <nate_> hehe i was just kiddin
[04:14] <kuzmaster> desktop**
[04:14] <kuzmaster> because i have created another shortcut to it in storage devices, with a better icon
[04:15] <Healot> nate_: you have questions ? though somebody glad to answer
[04:15] <kuzmaster> so i want to keep the new icon, and get rid of the old
[04:15] <jamie_> ah, internet dropped off.  Anyway, trying to find a program to perform diagnostics on my cable connection
[04:15] <Healot> kuzmaster: yes if you rename it with a "." in front of the filename
[04:15] <kuzmaster> k, thanx
[04:15] <jamie_> anyone heard of such a thing?
[04:16] <kuzmaster> how do i rename it
[04:16] <Healot> jamie: no jamie... well yes... contact your ISP if any of those problem occurs?
[04:16] <kuzmaster> theres no rename option in the contect menu
[04:16] <JavaByte> totally of topic anyone russian here by any chance know where i can get an English translation of dusk watch?
[04:16] <Healot> kuzmaster: cd to your Desktop folder
[04:16] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:16] <Healot> mv <the original file> .<the original file>
[04:17] <kuzmaster> helot, thanx
[04:17] <Healot> e.g. mv "painintheass" ".painintheass"
[04:17] <Healot> see the dot?
[04:17] <kuzmaster> yeah
[04:17] <Healot> !ru
[04:17] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[04:17] <JavaByte> ok - so why does my list have 36 lines - it's messed up?
[04:18] <Healot> no/// JavaByte ALOT of comments though
[04:18] <Healot> commented lines do not affect the file use... just for information
[04:19] <Healot> JavaByte: do you replace your file with my example yet?
[04:19] <kuzmaster> healot, do i put the quotations marks in?
[04:19] <Healot> no
[04:19] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:19] <Healot> i used it to separate the example input
[04:19] <Healot> for clarity they say
[04:20] <kuzmaster> healot, so it would be... mc SLAX .SLAX
[04:20] <kuzmaster> healot, to change SLAX, to .SLAX
[04:20] <Healot> mv
[04:20] <Healot> not mc :)
[04:20] <kuzmaster> yeah, i ment that
[04:20] <kuzmaster> lol
[04:21] <Healot> yeah like that kuzmaster
[04:21] <Healot> by default Konq won't list a hidden file
[04:21] <Healot> so you won't see file with . in front of the filename
[04:22] <geneo91> i will if you tell to
[04:23] <geneo91> under view just check show hidden
[04:24] <kuzmaster> healot, its not working, ill show you want i want to do
[04:24] <Healot> the icon shows...
[04:24] <kuzmaster> with a screen shot
[04:25] <kuzmaster> http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5348/desktop36ko.jpg
[04:25] <kuzmaster> thats what i want to do
[04:26] <kuzmaster> healot, understand?
[04:26] <Healot> it's the HAL thing'
[04:26] <JavaByte> is it safe to try libk3b2-mp3 to see if that will install (for mp3 support)
[04:26] <kuzmaster> ok......
[04:26] <Healot> you can either disable HAL
[04:26] <nate_> i have amd64 and i come across errors when installing the opera package.  does ./configure show me the extra files i need to get to make it work??
[04:27] <kuzmaster> healot, is there another way?
[04:27] <Healot> it will popup volume icons automatically, kuzmaster
[04:27] <kuzmaster> ok, ill do that
[04:27] <kuzmaster> how?
[04:27] <Healot> not recommended to disable HAL...
[04:27] <kuzmaster> why?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Hobbler!
[04:27] <Healot> jsut let it be? easier right?
[04:27] <kuzmaster> ummm, i would prefer it off, i think
[04:27] <kuzmaster> i can turn it back on cant i
[04:28] <kuzmaster> !HAL
[04:28] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.
[04:28] <Healot> btw, disabling HAL would disable the ability to mount volume!
[04:28] <kuzmaster> *grunts*
[04:28] <Healot> :)
[04:28] <Healot> oh
[04:29] <Healot> you can remove your current user from the HAL group
[04:29] <kuzmaster> yes, that sounds good
[04:29] <kuzmaster> i think
[04:29] <JavaByte> juk is also grayed out?? another idea gone
[04:29] <Healot> show me your /etc/passwd /etc/group files >> kuzmaster
[04:29] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:29] <kuzmaster> in pastebin?
[04:30] <Healot> JavaByte: have you update the list with my example? and Fetch+update the list?
[04:30] <Healot> kuzmaster: sure
[04:30] <Healot> pastebin
[04:30] <nate_> lol
[04:30] <Healot> !us
[04:30] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[04:30] <Healot> !gb
[04:30] <ubotu> Healot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:31] <Healot> nothing for GB
[04:31] <kuzmaster> heres my psswrd thing http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714223
[04:31] <JavaByte> Healot: no as you said not to yet - i just thought i'd try it
[04:31] <inc|freaky> hi all, can someone tell me how to setup a USB printer like Epson Stylus Photo R240 in linux?
[04:32] <Healot> and /etc/group to...
[04:32] <Healot> kuzmaster: which is your current user ?
[04:32] <kuzmaster> and my group thing http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714226
[04:32] <kuzmaster> im am josh
[04:32] <kuzmaster> thats the only use i have put on
[04:32] <Healot> ok, /etc/group please josh
[04:33] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714226
[04:33] <geneo91> anyone have any idea why azureus is sucking so much memory and not giving it back
[04:33] <kuzmaster> healot, got them?
[04:34] <Healot> admin:x:111:josh  << remove "josh" from this group
[04:34] <Healot> but that will make you lose the sudo power, josh
[04:34] <kuzmaster> ?, so i wont be able to use sudo?
[04:34] <Healot> plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,josh << remove "josh" from this one actually
[04:34] <Healot> then you won't be a plugdev user  no more
[04:35] <kuzmaster> so i make it.... plugdev:x:46:haldaemon
[04:35] <Healot> then no more automatic mounter
[04:35] <Healot> yes, from plugdev:x:46:haldaemon,josh to plugdev:x:46:haldaemon
[04:35] <kuzmaster> dose that mean that i have to automaticly mount them?
[04:35] <kuzmaster> manually, i mean
[04:36] <JavaByte> Healot: access denied to file sources.list.part
[04:36] <Healot> yup, since you are no longer in PLugdev group
[04:36] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:36] <Healot> JavaByte: prepend sudo
[04:36] <Healot> sudo <command> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <Healot> cdrom:x:24:haldaemon,josh
[04:36] <Healot> floppy:x:25:haldaemon,josh
[04:36] <Healot> and from those tooo...
[04:37] <kuzmaster> hmmmmph
[04:37] <kuzmaster> do i have to do it to all of those
[04:37] <geneo91> Hobbsee:  when you kicked me did you screw up my entire freenode account
[04:37] <Healot> if you like to manually mount volume, josh
[04:37] <Hobbsee> geneo91: no.  when did i kick you?  and what for?
[04:37] <Healot> I mean ALL type of disk...
[04:37] <geneo91> for rm -r /
[04:37] <kuzmaster> btw, i destroyed my floppy drive with a sledge hammer, so.... yeah, no more floppy drive
[04:38] <Healot> well, do that then, josh
[04:38] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:38] <Healot> but remember you need to mount disk/volume manually, josh
[04:39] <geneo91> Hobbsee:  i cant login to freenode with my old nick anymore
[04:39] <Healot> just the three entry "plugdev" "cdrom" "floppy" group entries...
[04:39] <Healot> leave the rest though
[04:40] <kuzmaster> ok, done, do i need to re-start kde or put something into terminal now?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> geneo91: what was the old nick?
[04:40] <JavaByte> Healot: so i open a command window in kate with the modified file open and use sudo to write the file with some command?
[04:40] <Mark1412> can anyone help me with amaroK
[04:40] <geneo91> geneo93
[04:40] <Hobbsee> geneo91: and what did youget banned for?
[04:40] <Healot> kuzmaster: logoff and log in back
[04:40] <DaSkreech> !helpme
[04:40] <kuzmaster> k
[04:40] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[04:40] <DaSkreech> !someone
[04:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[04:40] <geneo91> Hobbsee:  rm -r /
[04:40] <Healot> yes,,, JAva because most of the files in /etc are own by root
[04:40] <Hobbsee> geneo91: that was a remove, not a ban...
[04:40] <thompa> is there a program that will copy my music cds easily so I can listen, burn etc.?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> geneo91: what error do they give for you not being able to connect?
[04:40] <Mark1412> how do you upload music to your ipod using amaroK
[04:41] <Healot> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list >> JavaByte, like that, right thurr
[04:41] <thompa> will amarok do that
[04:41] <Mark1412> i heard it will
[04:41] <geneo91> it just transfers to different nick Hobbsee
[04:41] <JavaByte> Healot: cool - linux make me feel os thick sometimes :P
[04:41] <thompa> my cds are all scratched up I want to copy them like itunes
[04:42] <geneo91> Hobbsee:  its like i'm still loged in
[04:42] <Hobbsee> geneo91: is that nick registered at all?
[04:42] <Healot> does anybody hate HAL?
[04:42] <geneo91> yes it was
[04:43] <Hobbsee> geneo91: ghost it
[04:43] <Hobbsee> !ghost
[04:43] <JavaByte> <--- never knew what sudo did till 2006-06-17@3:43am
[04:43] <ubotu> from memory, ghost is type /msg nickserv GHOST <name> <password>
[04:43] <Healot> Java, nothing comes easy
[04:43] <thompa> when i put a cd in , i have extract and encode, but its audicreator
[04:44] <thompa> maybe there is an amarok channel
[04:44] <geneo91> Hobbsee:  thanks
[04:44] <Hobbsee> geneo91: not a problem, did it work?
[04:45] <geneo91> didn't try yet
[04:45] <Healot> geneo91: since when you start joining IRC?
[04:45] <geneo91> oh a few years ago
[04:45] <Healot> okay
[04:45] <Healot> familiar with nickserv or its command?
[04:46] <geneo91> onlky to indentify
[04:46] <Healot> oh
[04:47] <DaSkreech> thompa: Konquror will do that
[04:47] <DaSkreech> Mark1412: It should have a devices tab
[04:48] <JavaByte> YAY \o, i worked SUDO !!!!
[04:48] <geneo91> i know there was something going on with freenode the other day saying to use chat.freenode instead of irc.freenode
[04:48] <geneo91> some spam bot or something
[04:48] <Healot> JavaByte: now I guess you can update the sources.list file
[04:49] <JavaByte> done :)
[04:49] <thompa> DaSkreech: it will? ok ill try that
[04:49] <Hobbsee> geneo91: yeah, there are yet more spammers on the network
[04:50] <Hobbsee> geneo91: try it now, if you want - just use the syntax in !ghost
[04:50] <DaSkreech> thompa: type audiocd:/ in the address bar
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Tell me what you get :-)
[04:50] <geneo91>  NickServ: (notice) [geneo93]  has been killed
[04:50] <geneo93> geneo91: works now
[04:50] <Hobbsee> geneo91: yeah
[04:50] <Hobbsee> so just /nick geneo93
[04:50] <kuzmaster> how do i delete a file as root?
[04:50] <thompa> DaSkreech: I got cds all over the place, getting damaged and stuff and just want to have them safe
[04:51] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: sudo rm filename, but be careful with it
[04:51] <kuzmaster> ok, thnax
[04:51] <Hobbsee> geneo93: there you go :)
[04:51] <thompa> someone in amarok channel said i should try grip
[04:51] <Healot> hey josh, how's the HAL thing going?
[04:52] <geneo93> well i dunno why it didn't disconnect me for 3 days
[04:52] <DaSkreech> thompa: Well if you have a DVD burner or Hard drive space i would suggest copying the FLAC folder in Konqueror
[04:52] <kuzmaster> is deleting a file the same as a folder?
[04:53] <Healot> kuzmaster: try rm <a directory>
[04:53] <Healot> see what you'll got
[04:53] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:53] <Healot> e.g. rm etc
[04:53] <kuzmaster> Healot, i got this...rm: cannot remove `Backups': Is a directory
[04:53] <Healot> yea
[04:54] <Healot> different isn't it?
[04:54] <kuzmaster> yesss.....
[04:54] <Healot> man rmdir >> kuzmaster
[04:54] <kuzmaster> thanx
[04:54] <Healot> by the way you can use rm -rf to remove directories and files resursively
[04:54] <kuzmaster> ok
[04:55] <JavaByte> there's upgrade now should i?
[04:55] <Healot> JavaByte: up to you
[04:55] <kuzmaster> is it possible to change the icon for devices that are automaticly mounter?
[04:55] <inc|freaky> hi all - can someone help me getting cpu frequency to work? im on a Amilo M 1437G with a centrino 2ghz cpu which keeps running at 800mhz and powernowd starts with the error: frequencyscaling not supported
[04:55] <kuzmaster> mounted**
[04:55] <Healot> inc|freaky: isntall 686 kernel instead
[04:56] <Healot> linux-686
[04:56] <thompa> DaSkreech: ok thanks,
[04:56] <inc|freaky> im using 686 kernel and tried 386 too
[04:56] <thompa> whats the flak folder?
[04:56] <thompa> or flac
[04:56] <Healot> inc|freaky: CPU is a P4 Centrino?
[04:56] <geneo93> !flac
[04:56] <DaSkreech> You typed in audiocd:/
[04:56] <ubotu> geneo93: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:56] <DaSkreech> ?
[04:56] <inc|freaky> Healot: yea
[04:56] <thompa> just a sce
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !restricted
[04:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !freeformats
[04:57] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[04:57] <geneo93> flac is mp3 type lossless though
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Ah there we go :)
[04:57] <DaSkreech> That last link
[04:57] <thompa> i typed audiocd:/ got error
[04:58] <thompa> but audio cd is on desktop
[04:58] <kuzmaster> is it possible to change the icon for devices that are automaticly mounted?
[04:58] <thompa> its media:/hdd
[04:58] <DaSkreech> thompa: You have a Cd in the tray I take it? :-)
[04:59] <thompa> i just clicked on it and it opens so in Konqueror
[04:59] <Healot> inc|freaky: is the SpeedStep enabled in BIOS?
[04:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i'm wondering if anyone can help me get on my home network
[04:59] <inc|freaky> i cant enable or disable it in the BIOS, in windows it works fine
[04:59] <thompa> DaSkreech: right i see the flac folder
[04:59] <inc|freaky> @ Healot
[04:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i know i need samba... but i cant figure out how to get it to work >.>
[04:59] <Healot> that's mean, it's automatic... nvm
[04:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > even after reading the wiki
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Right if you jsut drag that to somewhere you have just ripped the CD in FLAC :0
[05:00] <Healot> !hardware
[05:00] <ubotu> hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:00] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Drag the MP3 folder you rip it in MP3
[05:00] <inc|freaky> Healot: it isnt it just doesnt scale up i keep running at 800mhz
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Etc for ogg, wav
[05:00] <thompa> DaSkreech: and can i play those and burn to cd later when my original is broke
[05:00] <thompa> ok
[05:00] <DaSkreech> thompa: yup yup yup
[05:01] <thompa> thanks
[05:01] <thompa> im not new to linux, but cleaning house of cd mess
[05:01] <Healot> your portable computer manufacturer, inc|freaky?
[05:01] <thompa> i got an ipod and dont even use it for music just files
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Dependent on your tastes you can burn those now and squirell away your originals or keep those somewhere safe (and doubly backed up) then burn them whenever
[05:01] <inc|freaky> Healot: Fujitsu Siemens
[05:01] <JavaByte> ok thanks for  the help Healot - i'm going for a reboot after the full update
[05:02] <DaSkreech> thompa: Well If you listen to music a lot use  the FLAC folder otherwise ogg is plenty good
[05:02] <erov> DaSkreech: what exactly should I do to sudoers
[05:03] <DaSkreech> erov: man sudoers
[05:03] <DaSkreech> erov: Then press /nopasswd
[05:03] <DaSkreech> and press enter
[05:03] <thompa> if each cd has a flac folder, i wonder if i need to create seperate album folders
[05:03] <DaSkreech> thompa: erm.. I think you would
[05:03] <DaSkreech> It is a bit messy in that respect
[05:04] <geneo93> i guess ubuntu dont support my dual xeon machine
[05:04] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu >> inc|freaky, but don't see anything about speedstep that wont scale
[05:04] <inc|freaky> :((
[05:04] <thompa> DaSkreech: i was thinking amarok instead to copy, cause it organizes
[05:04] <DaSkreech> thompa: yeah That works
[05:05] <Cornellius> mmm amaroK
[05:05] <Cornellius> Such a wonderfull app.
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Though you can rip everything to one folder using drag and drop then organize it en masse with Amarok
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Well Amarok 1.4
[05:05] <DaSkreech> I don't know if you have that one
[05:05] <Healot> inc|freaky: i don't if you can do this, if there is any way to disable SpeedStep...
[05:05] <thompa> that sounds good, that way i dont have to think
[05:05] <inc|freaky> im havint the problem since a few months now and hoped that it will have been fixed when dapper was released but it wasnt
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Cornellius: Yup and I got brainz working too!!
[05:06] <Cornellius> Niiice
[05:06] <inc|freaky> my problem is, that i cant enable it and so it keeps running at only 800mhz
[05:06] <inc|freaky> Healot: thx :)
[05:06] <Healot> inc|freaky: same problem with Breezy?
[05:06] <inc|freaky> i dont remember ;)
[05:06] <inc|freaky> or betteR: i dont know
[05:06] <Healot> hehe
[05:06] <geneo93> inc|freaky:  are you upto date
[05:06] <inc|freaky> i upgraded to dapper a few days after i upgraded ;D
[05:06] <inc|freaky> geneo93: yes
[05:07] <geneo93> today
[05:07] <inc|freaky> the first thing i do when booting into linux is looking for upgrades ;P
[05:07] <geneo93> i think yesterday was kernel update
[05:07] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuAmiloM1437G?highlight=%28CPU%29%7C%28Scaling%29 >> read this
[05:07] <inc|freaky> yea i have the newest kernel installed
[05:08] <inc|freaky> i tried 386 and 686 both dont support cpu frequency scaling
[05:08] <inc|freaky> :(
[05:08] <Healot> it should scale...
[05:08] <inc|freaky> it doesnt :(
[05:09] <inc|freaky> when restarting powernowd it says; * CPU frequency scaling not supported
[05:09] <geneo93> maybe i dont need more
[05:09] <Healot> inc|freaky: here say... do you have the liveCD?
[05:09] <Healot> try to boot from it, see if the CPU scale properly?
[05:09] <inc|freaky> no :(
[05:10] <inc|freaky> dont have it
[05:10] <Healot> well, get it then :)
[05:10] <Healot> you installed from alternate or liveCD?
[05:10] <inc|freaky> alternate
[05:10] <Healot> btw, did you boot with the 686 kernel?
[05:10] <inc|freaky> else i would have a live cd ;)
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > eh
[05:11] <inc|freaky> Healot: yea i tried both
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > if i go to edit a conf file
[05:11] <Healot> i suggest you have the liveCD, to do the trouble shooting...
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how do i become root to save the file?
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i damn well forgot
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ..>
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > >.>
[05:11] <Hawkwind> [Evil] [Ernie] : sudo
[05:11] <Healot> sudo first... [Evil] [Ernie] 
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > sudo then the filename?
[05:11] <Healot> sudo -i
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you!
[05:11] <Healot> if you hate entering password all the time
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > without the -i it just said file wasnt there
[05:11] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[05:11] <inc|freaky> ok but if it works with the livecd, how can i make it work on this installation?
[05:12] <Healot> inc|freaky: isntall from the LiveCD then...
[05:12] <inc|freaky> i dont want to reinstall
[05:12] <Healot> my suggestion is that...
[05:12] <[Evil] [Ernie] > actually
[05:12] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it still says file isnt there
[05:12] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[05:12] <inc|freaky> :\
[05:12] <Healot> well, you wouldn;t know if it works or not right?
[05:12] <[Evil] [Ernie] > even though it is clearly shown on "ls" command
[05:12] <Healot> [Evil] [Ernie] : what file?
[05:13] <[Evil] [Ernie] > trying to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:13] <Healot> ls /etc/samba/smb.conf >> what's the result of that?
[05:13] <Hawkwind> sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:14] <inc|freaky> Healot: ill download the livecd and try it ;)
[05:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[05:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > nevermind if you right click on a file and choose the Action menu
[05:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it gives you the option to edit as root
[05:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you for the cmds though i will keep them in mind if i need them in the future =o
[05:15] <Healot> inc|freaky: if it taht won't work to... look up for BIOS update though...
[05:15] <inc|freaky> ok
[05:15] <inc|freaky> thankyou :)
[05:15] <Healot> how old is your portable computer?
[05:15] <inc|freaky> i have it sice last christmas
[05:15] <Healot> like 6 months huh
[05:16] <inc|freaky> yea but the model is out 2 more months or smth ;)
[05:16] <Healot> heh
[05:17] <Healot> early release?
[05:18] <Healot> damn Japanese portable computers
[05:18] <Healot> nope no BIOS update for that pc
[05:18] <geneo93> chinese you mean
[05:19] <Healot> well the brand is Japanese, made in China i believe
[05:19] <geneo93> yeah
[05:19] <inc|freaky> Healot: hm?
[05:19] <Healot> i wish I bought American brand PC
[05:20] <inc|freaky> ;p
[05:20] <Healot> well... American brand it is, but China made still
[05:20] <geneo93> Healot:  none are made here though
[05:20] <Healot> I can see that
[05:20] <geneo93> build your own is best way
[05:21] <Healot> yeah
[05:21] <Healot> for desktop, but I am bad with portables
[05:21] <zodo> Hi folks.  I'm in the midst of troubleshooting slow transfer speeds over my internal network...and I've traced it back (with ethereal) to copious numbers of packets with incorrect checksums coming from my main machine.  It uses a Marvell Lan interface on an ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe.  Has anyone encountered this before/any tips?  I only see this behavior under dapper.
[05:21] <Healot> bad frames?
[05:22] <Healot> !hardware
[05:22] <ubotu> hardware is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:22] <inc|freaky> i just ordered 10 kubuntu cds from shipit :D
[05:22] <neoncode> How do I change my kmenu Icon without changeing my entire icon theme?
[05:22] <Healot> lsmod for us, zodo...
[05:23] <Healot> paste the output at pastebin.com
[05:23] <zodo> Alrighty.  One sec.
[05:23] <Healot> zodo: using the latest stable Dapper?
[05:24] <zodo> Yep.
[05:24] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone use RealVNC? can't connect to my windows host
[05:24] <zodo> Ok, it's up.
[05:24] <thompa> DaSkreech: Hi, I want to ask, why not to copy ogg vorbis instad of flac?
[05:24] <erov> is it good to fill a partition full of /dev/zero before giving it away ? :p
[05:24] <Healot> MasterEvilAce: did you select RDPv5 protocol?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> thompa: ogg is what is called lossy compression
[05:25] <DaSkreech> FLAC is lossless
[05:25] <MasterEvilAce> Realot: where would i do that at?
[05:25] <Healot> the URL... zodo?
[05:25] <zodo> Oh, shoot, sorry.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Which means that FLAC can truthfully be turned back into your original CD
[05:25] <zodo> Spaced. http://pastebin.com/714268
[05:25] <Healot> on the vnc client... you should see the Protocol listbox
[05:25] <inc|freaky> which one is the liveCD? the desktop CD image?
[05:25] <zodo> I've never used pastebin.com, frankly. :)
[05:26] <Healot> inc|freaky: yes the desktop iso
[05:26] <thompa> DaSkreech: great
[05:26] <inc|freaky> awkay, thx :D
[05:26] <thompa> thanks again for the tips
[05:26] <DaSkreech> thompa: ogg is like MP3 in that it is small and useful but you will lose information so that your Original CD can never be replicated
[05:26] <Healot> sk98lin fo Marvell right
[05:26] <thompa> ok
[05:27] <Healot> zodo: from the list of HCL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards >> it doesn't indicate any problem
[05:27] <zodo> Yeah, that's the one.
[05:27] <MasterEvilAce> Healot: i don't see a protocol choice anywhere.. encryption and encoding is all i see
[05:27] <thompa> im just copying the flac folders, even overwrite is ok, then scan folder with amarok, seems to work fine
[05:27] <Healot> a built in?
[05:28] <Healot> RealVNC client right?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> thompa: You can get close.. but not quite your CD
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Can I get a visual network tool?
[05:28] <MasterEvilAce> downloaded RealVNC directly from their site, and i run vncviewer
[05:28] <MasterEvilAce> stuff comes up and it says Aborted
[05:28] <MasterEvilAce> after i try to connect
[05:29] <Healot> MasterEvilAce: try to use the vnc client taht comes with ubuntu?
[05:29] <MasterEvilAce> will that connect to RealVNC?
[05:29] <Healot> any VNC client would do, but I suggest the one on ubuntu repos
[05:30] <Healot> just choose one...
[05:32] <Healot> !info x11vnc
[05:32] <ubotu> x11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-5 (dapper), Packaged size: 318 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[05:53] <kuzmaster> theres no one on the grub channel, so ill ask here
[05:53] <kuzmaster> how do i put windows xp pro in my grub list
[05:54] <kuzmaster> does anyone know how?
[05:54] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmph
[05:55] <DaSkreech> kuzmaster: I think that's in the FAQ on the Grub site
[05:55] <DaSkreech> .o0(Could be wrong though)
[05:55] <kuzmaster> !grub
[05:55] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:55] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194216
[05:55] <kuzmaster> thanx
[05:55] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: First hit on google :P
[05:55] <kuzmaster> lol
[05:56] <kuzmaster> i was just about to look at my search there
[05:56] <kuzmaster> !limewire
[05:56] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[05:56] <geneo93> Hawkwind still around heh
[05:56] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/19644-how-add-windows-2k-xp-grub.html
[05:56] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: That one seems better
[05:57] <Hawkwind> geneo93: I'm here to stay :)
[05:57] <geneo93> cool
[05:57] <geneo93> are you learning debs yet
[05:57] <kuzmaster> ok thanx, how do u run runlime.sh, how it says in !limewire
[05:58] <geneo93> sh runline.sh
[05:58] <kuzmaster> k, thanx
[05:59] <Hawkwind> geneo93: I've built a couple so far.  I built xchat-2.6.4 the day it was released and it seems it's still not available anywhere for Kubuntu
[05:59] <geneo93> really
[06:00] <geneo93> even in debian testing
[06:00] <Hawkwind> geneo93: It might be available for Kubuntu now.  Haven't looked in the past 2 days or so
[06:01] <geneo93> Hawkwind still haven't got mdk to work with xorg 7.1 even with nv driver
[06:03] <Hawkwind> I still haven't switched this box over from Mandriva yet.  But it's coming soon
[06:04] <geneo93> well ubuntu doesn't support this dual xeon box to well
[06:06] <rodrigo> hi
[06:18] <kuzmaster> can some please have a look at my menu.lst, and tell me how to put windows xp into there. i have followed numerous guide on the internet, and none of then have worked
[06:20] <kuzmaster> heres my menu.lst http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714314
[06:20] <kuzmaster> can somone please look at at and tell me what im doing wrong
[06:20] <kuzmaster> pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
[06:21] <kuzmaster> please
[06:21] <kuzmaster> anyone?
[06:23] <kuzmaster> and one at all?
[06:23] <kuzmaster> can some please have a look at my menu.lst, and tell me how to put windows xp into there. i have followed numerous guide on the internet, and none of then have worked
[06:23] <kuzmaster>  heres my menu.lst http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714314
[06:23] <kuzmaster> can somone please look at at and tell me what im doing wrong
[06:23] <kuzmaster> ingmar^_, can you help me?
[06:26] <kuzmaster> gapzzu, can you help me?
[06:26] <crimsun_> kuzmaster: it's completely unclear as to what drive and partition actually contains Windows
[06:26] <gapzzu> hola saludos
[06:27] <kuzmaster> ok
[06:27] <kuzmaster> my master contains windows
[06:28] <crimsun_> kuzmaster: that's unclear
[06:28] <crimsun_> primary master? secondary/tertiary/.../ master?
[06:28] <gapzzu> hola no hablas espanol
[06:28] <kuzmaster> ummmm, dont no
[06:28] <crimsun_> gapzzu: #kubuntu-es
[06:28] <kuzmaster> i might a a pic some where
[06:28] <kuzmaster> hang no
[06:28] <kuzmaster> on
[06:29] <kuzmaster> yeah i do, ill just upload it
[06:30] <geneo93> kuzmaster:  can you mount that drive
[06:31] <kuzmaster> yeah
[06:31] <kuzmaster> http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2509/disk22cw.jpg
[06:31] <kuzmaster> there
[06:31] <kuzmaster> kubuntu is on hd(1,0)
[06:32] <kuzmaster> and im pretty sure that windows is on hd(0,0)
[06:32] <poimen> someone knows anice good adicting game for linux and windows ?
[06:32] <geneo93> fdisk -l
[06:33] <geneo93> poimen:  what sort of game
[06:33] <crimsun_> after the fdisk, move that entire Windows stanza below the ### END DEBIAN ... line
[06:33] <jerry> hi
[06:33] <kuzmaster> ok
[06:33] <kuzmaster> so i go fdisk -l in terminal, then move that stanza down
[06:33] <erov> wolfenstein enemy territory? :p
[06:34] <kuzmaster> sudo fdisk -l?
[06:34] <geneo93> you need to use sudo
[06:34] <kuzmaster> k
[06:34] <kuzmaster> do you want my out put of fdisk -l?
[06:34] <crimsun_> yes
[06:34] <jerry> is there any way to start two kubuntus?
[06:34] <geneo93> haha
[06:34] <crimsun_> jerry: ?
[06:35] <jerry> like if I want to log in on one account and one on another
[06:35] <kuzmaster> geneo93, do you want my out put of fdisk -l?
[06:35] <jerry> I have multiple users
[06:35] <jerry> I have a question
[06:35] <crimsun_> jerry: do you mean two different concurrent users in the same Kubuntu install? Sure.
[06:35] <geneo93> kuzmaster:  yes
[06:35] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714330
[06:35] <kuzmaster> there
[06:35] <jerry> I'm trying to play runescape but the mouse dosen't work
[06:36] <jerry> and it runs on java
[06:36] <kuzmaster> *cough* runescap sucks *cough*
[06:36] <jerry> well I have a high goldmaking character
[06:36] <kuzmaster> yesss.........
[06:36] <jerry> i have to make money
[06:37] <jerry> or my children will go hungry :(
[06:37] <kuzmaster> ok......
[06:37] <jerry> they won't be happy
[06:37] <geneo93> kuzmaster:  looks like its slave drive
[06:38] <jerry> there's no way to play music on the pc speakers is there
[06:38] <crimsun_> heh, looks like someone has been manually editing the automagic part (which gets wiped out and redone automatically0
[06:38] <crimsun_> )
[06:38] <jerry> I just seem to recal having a computer that played sounds on the speaker itself, the one that makes the beeps
[06:39] <jerry> oh awesome I got the mouse to work
[06:39] <kuzmaster> what looks like a slave drive?
[06:39] <kuzmaster> btw, im using cable select
[06:40] <geneo93> then you dont have winxp as master then
[06:40] <crimsun_> kuzmaster: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714333
[06:40] <jerry> I got a question
[06:41] <jerry> Is there any way to get rid of banner ads?
[06:41] <kuzmaster> hmmm, ill look
[06:41] <kuzmaster> geneo93, but theres a problem with that
[06:42] <kuzmaster> my kubuntu is on hd(1,0)
[06:42] <kuzmaster> thats wat it says it the menu.lst
[06:42] <loanwolf> ? my screensavers will work when i click the test button...but they wont come on when there supose to
[06:42] <crimsun_> kuzmaster: your menu.lst will be regenerated, and it's wrong currently
[06:42] <geneo93> kuzmaster:  xp might takeover again then grub wont be there anymore
[06:43] <kuzmaster> well, ill put that thing at the end now
[06:43] <crimsun_> kuzmaster: erase what's currently (according to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714314) lines 145-149
[06:44] <geneo93> i dont trust xp at all had it for two weeks and it was gone forever
[06:44] <jerry> I have a question
[06:44] <kuzmaster> ok
[06:44] <jerry> I have a very basic windows application that telnets to a server to play a mmorpg. Is there anyway to run that on linux?
[06:45] <kuzmaster> wine
[06:45] <kuzmaster> jerry, you will need to install wine
[06:45] <kuzmaster> !wine
[06:45] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[06:45] <jerry> or maybe because all I have to do is cypher text that begins with "gangchat" into a different window. Is there anything like that for linux?
[06:47] <jerry> like someone will say in a telnet session, gangchat "Hi" and all I want to do is cypher that text that began with gangchat into a seperate window
[06:48] <IsDis4Me> hello
[06:48] <IsDis4Me> I need help
[06:48] <loanwolf> ? screensavers work with test button...but if i set them to start in 1 min..5 mon or so on..they dont come on..anyone have any idea's
[06:48] <IsDis4Me> how do I add ubuntu PLF to my kubuntu installation
[06:49] <kuzmaster> ill test it now
[06:49] <jerry> I have a question
[06:49] <IsDis4Me> I want w32codecs so that I can watch all media types
[06:49] <noiesmo> hello is there someway I can password protect folders in my home directory
[06:49] <jerry> is there any good reading material most perfered in paperback or hardcover book format that someone new to ubuntu can read and refrence
[06:50] <geneo93> you could mark them as root
[06:52] <loanwolf> IsDis4Me, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  ....win32codecs down by the bottom
[06:52] <IsDis4Me> thanks
[06:53] <loanwolf> no prob...i spent all day yesterday trying to find them
[06:54] <loanwolf> anyone know how to get screen savers to work
[06:54] <kuzmaster> it diddnt work
[06:55] <kuzmaster> the windows enrty wasnt ther
[06:55] <kuzmaster> there*
[06:55] <kuzmaster> is there a way to auto-detect all os's and put them into the grub menu?
[06:56] <kuzmaster> is there?
[06:56] <geneo93> i've never used cable select before so i dont know
[06:57] <kuzmaster> well, is there?
[06:57] <kuzmaster> is there anyone here?
[06:58] <geneo93> if it didn't when install did grub no
[06:58] <kuzmaster> it did do it when i installed grub
[06:58] <geneo93> you need to mark one of the drives as master
[06:58] <kuzmaster> but scince then ive installed more hard drives
[06:58] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, sudo update-grub
[06:59] <kuzmaster> ok, thnax
[06:59] <loanwolf> ??? my ScreenSavers work if i click the test buttom for each one...but how ever much time i give them 5 min or 10 min..they dont come on..any idea's
[06:59] <kuzmaster> should sudo update-grub add windows xp to the list?
[07:00] <kkathman> evening folks :)
[07:00] <noiesmo> kuzmaster, think so
[07:00] <DaSkreech> poimen: Hider!!!
[07:01] <DaSkreech> hi kkathman
[07:01] <kkathman> howdy DaSkreech :)
[07:02] <noiesmo> loanwolf, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf see if    Option          "DPMS" is under Section "Monitor"
[07:06] <kkathman> heya Snake :)
[07:07] <Snake> kkathman: hi
[07:11] <poimen> DaSkreech : hum?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> I know
[07:13] <DaSkreech> That's why you are a hider! :)
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Whats up?
[07:13] <poimen> I just wanted to change nick names but I dont know why freenode says I dont own the nick name I registered
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Cause I'm with the SUKAGoHP
[07:14] <poimen> DaSkreech : I am ok :) you?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Secret Underground Know All... wait. I can't tell you that!!
[07:15] <poimen> lol
[07:15] <DaSkreech> I'm chilling. Listening to Bob saget rap
[07:16] <jtinney> Hm, lol, of all the days that EvilIdler is not in this room.
[07:17] <poimen> DaSkreech : I am watching Every one loves raymond :)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> poimen: Gave up on KDE4?
[07:17] <jtinney> Would anyone happen to have a initrd-386 image that will run on an AMD Athlon XP 2600 with a GeForce Ti4200
[07:19] <poimen> DaSkreech no... but I doing some changes to all my partitions  Right now I am in a freash kubuntu install
[07:19] <poimen> :)
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Ah. Going to try and keep a KDE4 and a KDE stable?
[07:20] <poimen> this new install is for KDE 3.5.3
[07:20] <poimen> it is on a ext3 17gig partition
[07:20] <poimen> going to make a 10 gig partition to install KDE unstable in it
[07:20] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:20] <poimen> and dont screwup my stable kubuntu system :)
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Hmm .. I dont know
[07:22] <DaSkreech> So you have two installs?
[07:22] <poimen> then I will burn all my 120 gig of things on my media partition and will make it a 224GIG partition  (10 for experimental things) 15 for kubuntu stable)  I have a 250GIG HD
[07:22] <poimen> yep gona have 2 installs
[07:22] <DaSkreech> one with KDE3.5 and one with no WindowManager/DE?
[07:22] <linux_galore> hmm kde-apps.org and kde-look.org have lost a style sheet by the looks
[07:23] <linux_galore> the middle of the page is blank
[07:23] <poimen> right now I just have this one with KDE 3.5.3 but gona install a secound one tomorow as soon I get from work
[07:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:24] <poimen> I just did this freesh install
[07:24] <poimen> I was using xchat
[07:24] <poimen> in my old install
[07:24] <poimen> RSsed ?
[07:24] <poimen> now I am using konversation
[07:25] <poimen> still I dont know why I kind of like xchat more
[07:25] <poimen> but what to stick with QT apps
[07:25] <chavo> linux_galore, the middle is there just scroll down
[07:25] <poimen> :)
[07:25] <geneo93> poimen:  kopete works with irc
[07:26] <DaSkreech> RSS
[07:26] <poimen> I am not prety sure what is RSS lol
[07:26] <poimen> geneo93 gona try it right away
[07:26] <poimen> :)
[07:28] <poimen> brb
[07:29] <linux_galore> chavo: very broken
[07:29] <chavo> yes
[07:29] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Kopete :(
[07:30] <geneo93> no like
[07:30] <chavo> all those sites are broken, kde-apps ,gnome-look ,etc
[07:30] <geneo93> i use gaim
[07:30] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Hooray!! :)
[07:31] <butler> how to open this file ? avg71flm-r28-a0757.i386.rpm
[07:31] <geneo93> have always used it dont really care if i have a few gtk things around
[07:32] <lnxkde> ...
[07:32] <lnxkde> It says I am in #kubuntu
[07:33] <lnxkde> but I dont see eny nicknames just mine and horizon and I also see the topic
[07:33] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:34] <chavo> lnxkde, you can change the theme so it looks more like xchat or w/e
[07:35] <lnxkde> ok
[07:46] <ChefWill> :(
[07:46] <ChefWill> why wont kubuntu load my digital camera images
[07:46] <ChefWill> when it mounts it just shows a folder w/ name of camera
[07:47] <poimen> hi
[07:47] <poimen> now I am on kopete :)
[07:48] <poimen> kopete 0.12 :D
[07:49] <ChefWill> how the heck do you transfer images from digital camera?
[07:49] <PyroMithrandir> I use digiKam
[07:49] <DeadS0ul> digital cameras are basically usb mass storage now =D
[07:52] <jerry_> I have a question
[07:53] <ChefWill> ah nice app PyroMithrandir thanks
[07:53] <PyroMithrandir> welcome :)
[07:53] <jerry_> My road runner internet modem was going from all lights on to just the online and sending light on and my internet was down just awhile ago
[07:55] <PyroMithrandir> you still haven't asked your question
[08:00] <jerry_> can anyone tell me of a good place to find topics on criminal justice?
[08:00] <geneo93> google
[08:01] <KaiserSuse> jerry_: you could try apt-get? ;p
[08:02] <jerry_> what's apt-get?
[08:02] <geneo93> hehe
[08:02] <jerry_> My internet is just going down
[08:02] <jerry_> well I'm new at this
[08:02] <jerry_> my internet has down syndrom
[08:03] <geneo93> jerry_:  you want irc channel
[08:04] <jerry_> nooo I'm trying to find information on the web on criminal justice subjects
[08:04] <jerry_> oh boy
[08:05] <jerry_> did that go through?
[08:05] <geneo93> http://www.internationalcollege.edu/irc/irclegallinks.htm
[08:06] <DaSkreech> poimen: Where did you get the 0.12 deb?
[08:06] <infidel_> I'm new to linux, can someone guide me through the steps to install the xorg11 package for Kubuntu 6.06?
[08:06] <poimen> DaSkreech : buahahahaha that is a secret :D
[08:07] <poimen> na, I will give it to you in asec
[08:07] <poimen> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190273  <--- that before you install it
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Well SUKAGoHP will see about that!!!!
[08:08] <infidel_> thanks poimen, I'll look into it
[08:08] <steph__> hi i have dapper and my usb are not automounting (that worked under breezy)
[08:08] <poimen> and the one that I am using is the last one, the direct link for the deb I am using is this  http://www.dpcontrol.it/debpkgs/kopete_3.5.3-ubuntu0_i386.deb
[08:09] <poimen> infidel_ :)
[08:09] <infidel_> poimen: sorry no that's not what I'm looking for... :P
[08:09] <poimen> DaSkreech I works like charm :)
[08:10] <poimen> infidel_ :)
[08:10] <DaSkreech> It says that it breaks stuff
[08:11] <infidel_> <---- total linux newbie, can someone tell me how to install SuperKaramba on Kubuntu 6.06?
[08:12] <geneo93> DaSkreech:  with dpkg
[08:12] <DaSkreech> infidel_: Can You open Adept?
[08:12] <steph__> apt-get install superkaramba
[08:13] <poimen> infidel : sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[08:13] <infidel_> I'll try that code first
[08:14] <geneo93> DaSkreech:  dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:14] <infidel_> DaSkreech: I opened Adept, now what?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> ok in the filter type what ever you are looking for
[08:15] <geneo93> infidel_:  use terminal
[08:15] <poimen> DaSkreech   sudo dpkg -i kopete.012hsfkjhf.deb
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Yeah ok :-)
[08:16] <infidel_> geneo93: I am on terminal, what should I type?
[08:17] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[08:17] <steph__> infidel : sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[08:17] <poimen> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[08:17] <geneo93> echo
[08:18] <chavo> echo
[08:18] <steph__> :D
[08:18] <infidel_> steph_:  terminal gives me the following: E: Couldn't find package superkaramba
[08:18] <geneo93> would you guys come to work with me and when the boss calls answer for me
[08:19] <poimen> infidel_ ok time for some sources.list changes :D
[08:19] <geneo93> poimen:  i would have him install synaotic
[08:19] <steph__> looks like your sources don't contains multiverse
[08:19] <geneo93> synnaptic
[08:19] <infidel_> I am so confused... :P
[08:20] <steph__> infidel : do a kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <infidel_> k
[08:20] <geneo93> just relax
[08:20] <poimen> well.. I will keep quiet I am old fashioned konsole based installer :D
[08:20] <infidel_> I am relaxed :) I love linux but I am a total newbie
[08:20] <steph__> and on those ttwo lines add :
[08:20] <steph__> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:20] <steph__> deb-src http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:21] <geneo93> you wont learn it in five minutes if you have everything done for you
[08:21] <steph__> (just add multiverse after universe)
[08:21] <steph__> then do a sudo apt-get update
[08:21] <steph__> and sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[08:22] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install kde will install all of kde
[08:23] <steph__> geneo93 : except superkaramba it's not in the universe repo
[08:23] <geneo93> well he needs multiverse
[08:24] <steph__> yep
[08:24] <steph__> infidel still here
[08:24] <infidel_> yes, every moment.
[08:24] <geneo93> i was just saying if you want all of kde
[08:24] <steph__> oh ok
[08:24] <poimen> he died trying to figureout how to install superkaramba
[08:24] <poimen> :P
[08:24] <steph__> infidel : so did you try N
[08:25] <Lynoure> Hello :)
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Can I get a visual network indicator?
[08:25] <infidel_> steph_: what's N?
[08:25] <geneo93> netapplet you mean
[08:25] <steph__> sorry N was ?
[08:25] <steph__> i said did you try was i say above?
[08:26] <infidel_> trying it now :P
[08:26] <steph__> da screetch : did you try the kde applet?
[08:27] <MasterEvilAce> Argh! i still can't get RealVNC (or any VNC for that matter) to connect to my windows server. I keep getting "Aborted" or some weird security message (depending onthe client)
[08:27] <MasterEvilAce> i can't figure it out
[08:27] <geneo93> DaSkreech: use knetdockapp
[08:29] <infidel_> steph_: it updated some stuff and last line says Setting Up superkaramba.... now what
[08:30] <steph__> just alt+F2 and type superkaramba
[08:30] <steph__> so that kde load it each time
[08:30] <steph__> and you'll have to get theme
[08:31] <infidel_> steph_: Thank you very much! :)
[08:31] <Lynoure> Does kpilot work fine for other people? It used to work for me only once for each boot, now I don't get it to synch at all.
[08:31] <geneo93> python at its best
[08:32] <steph__> infidel -> cool you can get the weather on your desktop now
[08:32] <geneo93> you can with kweather also
[08:33] <steph__> so.... anyone for my automounting stuff?
[08:33] <infidel_> steph_: haha yeah always wanted that
[08:33] <Hobbsee> !mount
[08:33] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:33] <steph__> infidel : i have a hudge trash icon on my desktop that's cool :D (just eye candy in fact) but superkaramba has cool theme
[08:34] <steph__> not mount ----> automount
[08:34] <steph__> under breezy when i plugged an usb device it automount not under dapper
[08:35] <steph__> :(
[08:35] <geneo93> steph__:  mine works just fine
[08:36] <steph__> geneo : you mean that when you plugg you usb it show you the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:36] <geneo93> yes
[08:36] <steph__> damned i'm damned :D
[08:36] <steph__> i've installed dapper on three different computer and it didn't
[08:37] <geneo93> i used dvd to install with text
[08:37] <steph__> i did it with dist-upgrade then a fresh install text-mode(CD)
[08:37] <geneo93> and it even got kernel right the first time
[08:37] <steph__> which kernel have you?
[08:38] <geneo93> not 386 like with cd
[08:38] <steph__> ?
[08:38] <geneo93> Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-25-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:34:19 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:39] <steph__> i think i'll have to right click->mount ..... it will be  a real change for my grand mother :D
[08:39] <steph__> i have Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:39] <Lynoure> Does anyone use kpilot? (I guess not)
[08:40] <steph__> you're under AmD?
[08:40] <steph__> lynoure : not me
[08:40] <geneo93> no dual xeon p4's
[08:40] <geneo93> with ht
[08:40] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Interesting :)
[08:40] <steph__> geneo : waow that must be pretty fast
[08:41] <geneo93> says i have 8 pocessors
[08:41] <steph__> 8-D
[08:41] <geneo93> duh
[08:42] <geneo93> that reminds me i have to get rid of splash at boot
[08:43] <steph__> why it's just a flash at boot :D?
[08:44] <geneo93> ah it takes time to do that crap
[08:44] <geneo93> who needs eye candy
[08:44] <steph__> infidel_ needs
[08:44] <MasterEvilAce> omg does ANYONE know how to make vncviewer connect to a windows machine and actually WORK???
[08:45] <steph__> MASTER : i'm doing it eveyday without pb
[08:45] <geneo93> MasterEvilAce:  just take sledgehammer to windows box
[08:45] <MasterEvilAce> it's not windows box, incidentally
[08:46] <MasterEvilAce> it's definitely linux
[08:46] <steph__> hey?
[08:46] <geneo93> MasterEvilAce: omg does ANYONE know how to make vncviewer connect to a windows machine and actually WORK???
[08:47] <MasterEvilAce> geneo93: yeah? my windows machine is hosting fine. i actually have someone else connected to me right now.
[08:47] <MasterEvilAce> I just need to be able to connect to them, pref. from my linux computer
[08:47] <MasterEvilAce> i can connect to them from my windows box
[08:47] <steph__> what's the error?
[08:48] <MasterEvilAce> I get "Aborted" after it says some info such as Connected to IP / using RFB protocol version 4
[08:49] <MasterEvilAce> i've installed a few diff clients and some of the others gave a security warning.. too many security somethings..
[08:49] <Lynoure> MasterEvilAce: Which vnc server you use in the windows box? Are you using the client of the same? I bet there are some nonstandard vnc software out there.
[08:50] <MasterEvilAce> both are RealVNC
[08:50] <geneo93> windows in non standard
[08:50] <MasterEvilAce> newest version on both
[08:50] <poimen> well my time to sleep have come :D
[08:51] <MasterEvilAce> geneo93: you're not helping anyone, thanks
[08:51] <poimen> see you all tomorow :D God bless you all
[08:51] <steph__> master : geneo is helping / trying to understand
[08:52] <MasterEvilAce> steph__: if he is, i apologize. but he surely seems to be bashing windows constantly, when i can receive and connect on my windows box
[08:52] <geneo93> poimen:  same to you
[08:52] <poimen> bye
[08:53] <geneo93> MasterEvilAce:  i just haven;t used any M$ stuff since 99
[08:56] <steph__> ok time for me to live it's day time :D
[08:56] <geneo93> hehe
[08:57] <geneo93> 3 am here
[08:57] <steph__> 9 am in france :D
[08:57] <Lynoure> MasterEvilAce: Sounds, in general that is this more a RealVNC problem (realvnc does not seem to exist in kubuntu), than kubuntu problem. Might be that their people can help you better
[08:57] <geneo93> yeah wish i was there
[08:58] <steph__> where are you from?
[08:58] <geneo93> ohio usa
[08:58] <Lynoure> MasterEvilAce: see http://realvnc.com/cgi-bin/support-faq.cgi
[08:58] <steph__> wish i was there :D
[08:58] <geneo93> na you dont hot and muggy
[08:58] <steph__> ok bye everyone have a nice day/night
[08:58] <pharmakom> In firefox 1.5.4 I can play flash videos but I get no sound. Has anyone had experience?
[08:59] <Hobbsee> !root
[08:59] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:59] <MasterEvilAce> I I installed xvncviewer just to try it.. and it connected right up. i don't understand. the install must have added something that wasn't there before. thanks god it works now.. taken way too much time on that problem
[09:00] <geneo93> macros
[09:01] <geneo93> time to go
[09:03] <Lynoure> MasterEvilAce: You can probably contact RealVNC company to report a bug if you wish. I'm glad you got vnc working, and kind of glad it happened with open software :)
[09:06] <subtle> kubuntu is good.
[09:07] <Lynoure> subtle: I would agree but kpilot being broken kind of colours it for me :(
[09:07] <subtle> i'd offer assistance if i was capable of it - i'm still a bit of a linux newbie =P
[09:07] <jerry_> hi
[09:07] <Lynoure> ...as I pretty much live with my palm pilot and the kpilot problems mades it much harder to back it up
[09:08] <Lynoure> subtle: when I have time/focus I will unleash strace at it, I think. So all hope is not lost :)
[09:09] <subtle> I certainly wish you the best with that! I'm off to sleep though - have a good night
[09:09] <Lynoure> Good night!
[09:11] <Rede> !wifi
[09:11] <ubotu> wifi is, like, a term to describe wireless networks (also known as 802.11a/b/g/n). For help getting it set up in Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:11] <Lynoure> I'm like trying to get rid of my filler sounds, so it is like funny to hear a bot using some =)
[09:12] <Rede> !wireless
[09:12] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[09:12] <Rede> there we go
[09:13] <icheyne> my kubuntu install has stopped booting up
[09:13] <icheyne> any ideas why?
[09:13] <icheyne> was working fine
[09:13] <wilfred> what's with the exclamation mark before a word?
[09:13] <icheyne> !tell wifred about ubotu
[09:13] <word> wilfred: That searches for it
[09:14] <wilfred> !tell wilfred about ubotu
[09:19] <wilfred> ichyene: tried a safe boot?
[09:22] <word> wilfred: "icheyne has left this channel"
[09:32] <jerry_> That's the oppsite of this!
[09:38] <kinema> I'm playing with kubuntu dapper right now as a vmware guest and just found out that i cant mount smb shares because there is no /sbin/mount.smbfs.  is there anyway to get arround this?
[09:38] <kinema> btw i'm running the live cd
[09:39] <Kmirno> kings: livecd sucks compared to the real thing.
[09:39] <Kmirno> kings: install the real thing, you everything will work
[09:40] <Kmirno> mostly
[09:40] <TheHighChild> anyone know what I can do when adept hangs during installation with no output in the details
[09:40] <wilfred> have you tried pressing show details TheHighChild?
[09:43] <TheHighChild> wilfred: Yeah, it's blank
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Night all!!
[09:44] <wilfred> what are you trying to install? is it only hanging on something specific?
[09:45] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[09:45] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:45] <TheHighChild> I was trying to remove Gnome-games and it started downloading VMware headers, which is fine as I as having problems starting up b ut now it's trying to setup vmware-player
[09:46] <wilfred> I'm not sure. Did you have vmware installed before?
[09:47] <TheHighChild> Yes
[09:48] <orgulloputer> Hello, I'm a recent Windows convert. I'm having some problems regarding IRC connections. Every once in a while, I will get disconnected, but it seems as though my computer doesn't "know" it's disconnected. In Windows, as soon as I would get disconnected, my client would raise some type of error. This same thing is ocurring with Xchat, Konversation, and some IRC bots that I wrote personally
[09:48] <TheHighChild> Is there a way to halt adept without damaging my system?
[09:48] <orgulloputer> any ideas?
[09:48] <wilfred> maybe it was trying to update vmware at the same time. Try a full update then try again
[10:18] <animato> hello, anyone here still using breezy?
[10:24] <Hobbsee> animato: i was using hoary a few minutes ago, what did you want to know?
[10:38] <Ayabara> I have problems with networking on my ubuntu install being _slow_ . when I start up ktorrent it dl's really fast for a couple of minutes, but then it decreases drastically.
[10:39] <Healot> it's the bt network concern...
[10:40] <RawSewage> Is Konqueror broken for anyone
[10:40] <Healot> broken like?
[10:40] <Ayabara> known phenomena?
[10:41] <RawSewage> When I try to start it, after this latest update I get
[10:41] <Ayabara> a bt network concern in kubuntu?
[10:41] <RawSewage> Could not find mime type   application/octet-stream
[10:41] <Healot> nothing to do with the OS, Ayabara
[10:42] <Ayabara> Healot: didn't really think so. but I don't thing it is a bt issue. firefox is painfully slow, and apt-get times out on me
[10:42] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: that seems ot like happening, every once in a while
[10:42] <RawSewage> How can I fix it
[10:42] <Healot> it's the bt network... you have too many dead connections...
[10:45] <Ayabara> Healot: is there nothing to be done about it, or can i tweak some settings?
[10:45] <RawSewage> Hobbsee, do you know how I can fix it
[10:45] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: i dont
[10:45] <Healot> i don't have any idea on fixing the OS components, because  I don't think any is broken
[10:45] <RawSewage> I'll just wait then
[10:46] <Ayabara> ktorrent allows unlimited number of connections per torrent, should decrease this a bit maybe?
[10:46] <RawSewage> I bet more people will start to get this bug
[10:46] <RawSewage> tonight
[10:46] <Healot> restart the connection/modem/whatever concern the physical connection
[10:46] <Healot> Ayabara: yeah, that probably helps
[10:46] <RawSewage> KTorrent?
[10:46] <RawSewage> restart KTOrrent
[10:46] <RawSewage> sometimes it goes dead
[10:46] <Healot> Ayabara: you set unlimited connection per torrent?
[10:46] <Healot> unless you have a real fast digital line, I do no recommend that
[10:47] <Healot> not*
[10:48] <Ayabara> Healot: it was the default setting, and I just found it
[10:48] <Healot> hum
[10:48] <Ayabara> Healot: what's a good number? I have a 3mbps line
[10:48] <Healot> 10-15 or lower would be better
[10:48] <Healot> DSL right
[10:49] <Healot> turn off the super seed mode too, if there is any
[10:50] <Ayabara> I'll try 25. Having number of seeds set to unlimited can't harm, right? thanks for helping btw.
[10:50] <Healot> 0 on seeding (unlimited seed) is "super seeding"
[10:51] <Healot> super seeding might hurt you a bit
[10:52] <Ayabara> Healot: no super seed mode, but "number of seeds" set to infinite
[10:52] <Healot> yeah
[10:52] <Healot> infinity seeding is super seeding
[10:53] <Ayabara> hmm. ok. what's a good number for that setting?
[10:53] <Healot> how may torrents do  have now?
[10:53] <Healot> 5-6 would be ideal, on 3Mbps
[10:54] <Healot> 6 * 15 clients connection = ?
[10:54] <Ayabara> 6-7
[10:54] <Healot> that's how many upload connection you may get...
[10:55] <Healot> btw, it ;s up to you
[10:55] <Ayabara> I'm a complete newbie at this stuff. did you mean 6*15 in the seed field?
[10:56] <Healot> no
[10:57] <Healot> 6 seed time 15 clients upload = just imagine the traffic ...
[10:57] <Healot> hoho
[10:58] <Healot> yakimo wo taberu... brad__?
[10:58] <brad__> tama ni taberu
[10:58] <Ayabara> trying with 6 seeds that. thanks for your help
[10:59] <Healot> if you need  heavy web browsing, consider less
[10:59] <alessandro> Buongiorno a tutti
[10:59] <Healot> !it
[10:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:00] <alessandro> Sorry! Can i ask two questions?
[11:00] <Healot> sure
[11:01] <Hobbsee> alessandro: sure, but i'ts an english only channel
[11:01] <Healot> just ask
[11:01] <Healot> in English that is
[11:02] <alessandro> Ok... Ok  in English ;-) So, why Amarok don't play any MP3? XMMS, instead, sounds very good! My kubuntu is 6.06 LTS on IBM Thinkpad T42
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[11:03] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:03] <Hobbsee> alessandro: install libxine-extracodecs
[11:03] <Healot> t42 is a nice  machine
[11:04] <alessandro> Thanks friends! Yes the t42 is a good machine but a little unfriendly to Linux... ;-|
[11:04] <brad__> mind if i ask a question on a problem with skype?
[11:04] <Healot> alessandro: follow the wiki and if you encounter problems, just ask for more
[11:04] <TheHighChild> My T42 runs great
[11:05] <Hobbsee> brad__: go for it, no idea if we can answer it though
[11:05] <Healot> what's the hype with skype?
[11:05] <brad__> ok - i get this error when i try to run it:
[11:05] <brad__> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08a18e00 ***
[11:06] <Healot> oh... buggy skype binary
[11:06] <Healot> can't even use pointer properly
[11:06] <fatejudger> have the edgy syncs started yet?
[11:06] <alessandro> Ok! The second question is XGL. I installed it on Ubuntu, and works very well. In Kubuntu the procedure is the same? I don't found any wiki for kubuntu...
[11:06] <fatejudger> or is it still relatively unusable?
[11:07] <Healot> !xgl
[11:07] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:07] <Healot> alessandro: btw, xgl procedure is the same in both desktop
[11:07] <Healot> fatejudger: read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hm
[11:08] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !wine
[11:08] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[11:08] <Healot> excessive drinking of Wine  can get you drunk
[11:08] <[Evil] [Ernie] > getting drunk off wine is awesome
[11:08] <alessandro> Ok, i'll try now! Thanks a lot for your help! :-D
[11:13] <RawSewage> So now I have no file browser and no web browser.  KOnqueror is broken
[11:14] <pym> hola
[11:14] <RawSewage> Anyone know how I can repair it
[11:14] <Healot> how you did that?
[11:14] <RawSewage> the update
[11:14] <Healot> i haven't update yet... so I don't know what happened to you
[11:14] <RawSewage> Im using the real Konqueor settings, not the Kubuntu ones
[11:14] <RawSewage> the one that gives you more options
[11:15] <RawSewage> so maybe thats why it got broken in the update
[11:15] <Healot> revert back to Kubuntu's default setting
[11:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[11:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > wine seems to be broken
[11:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[11:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > im trying to install photoshop cs 2
[11:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and the installer craps out before it starts installing
[11:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > anyone have experience with wine?
[11:16] <RawSewage> No
[11:16] <RawSewage> I dont want to use the baby version
[11:16] <RawSewage> I need the extra options
[11:16] <RawSewage> I'll figure it out, I guess
[11:20] <Healot> [Evil] [Ernie] : goto winehq.org >> find the compatiblity list on the version of WINE you have
[11:22] <RogueJediX> Or try GimpShop or Krita
[11:25] <Healot> [Evil] [Ernie]  >> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=17
[11:26] <Healot> Photoshop compatibility status
[11:26] <Healot> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2631 >> Conclusion, not installable ?
[11:28] <flux_> hi
[11:28] <square_head> hi
[11:28] <flux_> does anyone now how to reinstall kde from commandline?
[11:29] <square_head> My monitor Samsung SyncMaster 997MB should support 1024x768@100Hz, but it doesn't in Kubuntu
[11:30] <square_head> any ideeas of what I should add to xorg?
[11:31] <DeadS0ul> run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:31] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[11:31] <[Evil] [Ernie] > is there a way to make like, a batch file? that kind of thing?
[11:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > a file you open and it runs a command through the terminal
[11:32] <Hobbsee> as in, creating a shell script?
[11:33] <square_head> "nv" driver is without Hardware acceleration ?
[11:33] <square_head> and nvidia is with hardware acceleration?
[11:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > if that's what a shell script is.. then yes :)
[11:34] <Hobbsee> [Evil] [Ernie] : http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[11:34] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thx
[11:37] <alessandro> Hallo... nothing to do with Xgl... ;-(
[11:39] <nomad111> hey every1 does any1 hav an inspiron 6400/e1505
[11:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hm
[11:43] <[Evil] [Ernie] > shell scripting is a tad complicated unless you're ready to read a novel =p
[11:43] <[Evil] [Ernie] > meh
[11:43] <nomad111> i need to change my resolution but i dont know wat screen to choose
[11:43] <nomad111> and at the moment i cant change my resolution
[11:45] <alessandro> Anyone with a IBM t42 and XGL installed?
[11:48] <klerfayt> square_head: I believe that nv uses hardware acceleration too
[11:49] <klerfayt> square_head: if you want 3d acceleration then install nvidia-glx (multiverse has to be enabled in adept)
[11:49] <square_head> thx
[11:53] <RawSewage> Konqueror no longer works
[11:53] <RawSewage> My computer is useless now
[11:53] <Lynoure> RawSewage: What happened?
[11:54] <RawSewage> When I try to start it , I get the error:
[11:54] <RawSewage> Could not find mime type   application/octet-stream
[11:54] <RawSewage> I think the update broke it
[11:54] <Lynoure> Oh, konqueror not working does not make the computer useless... But sounds like you could get rid of that by removing konqueror confs and restarting
[11:55] <Lynoure> (just a guess)
[11:55] <RawSewage> where are those
[11:55] <chavo> RawSewage, try this KDEHOME=~/kdetest konqueror
[11:55] <chavo> that will make a temporary home for kde config
[11:55] <chavo> to test
[11:55] <RawSewage> Ok
[11:56] <RawSewage> do the errors mean anything
[11:56] <RawSewage> It appears not able to open bookmarks.xml
[11:56] <RawSewage> oh, thats just for the test
[11:56] <RawSewage> but it started
[11:56] <RawSewage> what now
[11:57] <chavo> sounds like your mime types are messed up, kill the konq window
[11:57] <RawSewage> Maybe I broke it when I tried to associate a par file with QuickPar in Wine
[11:57] <chavo> now try running -> kbuildsyscoca and then launch konq normally
[11:58] <RawSewage> is that the correct spelling
[11:58] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:58] <RawSewage> bash: kbuildsyscoca: command not found
[11:58] <chavo> woops kbuildsycoca
[11:59] <chavo> <- bad typer
[11:59] <RawSewage> ok, I ran it and got:  kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[11:59] <RawSewage> maybe I should reboot
[12:00] <chavo> no dont yet, just mv ~/.kde/share/mimelnk ~
[12:00] <chavo> then try it again
[12:00] <RawSewage> that fixed it
[12:00] <chavo> alright
[12:00] <RawSewage> thanks
[12:01] <chavo> well any mimetype customization you did is in that folder
[12:01] <RawSewage> where did I move it
[12:01] <chavo> your home
[12:01] <RawSewage> I can delete it now, right
[12:02] <RawSewage> just use it for reference to rebuild
[12:02] <chavo> any time you have trouble with a kde app, try the new profile thing KDEHOME=kdetest
[12:02] <visik7> where is reiserfs ?!
[12:02] <visik7> in ubiquity
[12:02] <chavo> well you can just copy the ones that aren't broken
[12:02] <RawSewage> but that folder in Home is no longer being used, right
[12:02] <chavo> no
[12:02] <chavo> you can rm -r kdetest
[12:03] <RawSewage> but what about the mimelnk folder in Home
[12:03] <RawSewage> can I delete it
[12:03] <chavo> if you want anything out of it save it otherwise you can delete
[12:03] <RawSewage> but I have a new one now, right
[12:03] <RawSewage> in .kde
[12:03] <chavo> yes
[12:05] <RawSewage> I guess it wasnt the update.  I guess I broke it when I tried to create a par2 association
[12:06] <accu> hello
[12:06] <Lynoure> I wish it helped with the damned kpilot... too tired to do any real digging...
[12:06] <RawSewage> are you trying to connect to a PocketPC
[12:07] <Lynoure> RawSewage: no, palm pilot, kpilot broke for me some kernel updates ago and completely after the latest
[12:07] <Lynoure> oops, palm tungsten e, I mean
[12:10] <wilfred> how do I rip a cd?
[12:11] <RawSewage> audio?
[12:11] <RawSewage> I think you just drag and drop
[12:11] <RawSewage> in Konqueror
[12:11] <chavo> yeah try audiocd:/ in konq
[12:14] <wilfred> seems to work, thanks chavo. kaudiothingy keeps hanging
[12:15] <wilfred> nope, konq doesn't want to play. tries to copy but then says 'stalled'. Any ideas?
[12:15] <defrysk> kaudiocreator
[12:16] <wilfred> kaudiocreator crashes... :-(
[12:17] <defrysk> well try grip
[12:17] <wilfred> grip?
[12:17] <defrysk> ist gtk2 but usually works like a charm
[12:17] <wilfred> I'll try it
[12:18] <animato> hello, anyone using breezy?
[12:18] <chavo> yeah grip's been around for a while
[12:19] <defrysk> sound-juicer is also a well known cdripper (gtk2)
[12:20] <animato> why would you use rippers when konq can rip?
[12:20] <wilfred> konq "stalls"
[12:20] <animato> stalls?
[12:20] <animato> meaning?
[12:20] <chavo> make sure the cd is clean?
[12:21] <animato> you mean you can't do anything with your system while ripping with konq?
[12:21] <wilfred> It brings up the copying file message, then says it stalls. I get a ~40kb file only
[12:21] <wilfred> cd plays fine, relatively new
[12:21] <animato> i don't wanna badmouth or anything, but is it true that dapper has way more bugs than breezy?
[12:22] <animato> i just started using kubuntu dapper and i'm having really annoying bugs, never used kde on breezy, but i've seen lots of complaints on dapper
[12:22] <Lynoure> animato: Logically that would make sense. Breezy has had more time after it's release for fixing bugs in it.
[12:22] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: bugs are designed to be fixed before release, not after.  mind you, a lot more people file bug reports after
[12:23] <Lynoure> And I bet there is also more software in dapper than breezy...
[12:23] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: bugs are not designed, I hope =)
[12:23] <chavo> honestly kde 3.5.3 has been rock solid here
[12:23] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: of course not
[12:23] <Hobbsee> animato: what major annoying bugs?
[12:23] <animato> ok let's see
[12:24] <Lynoure> For me the kpilot bugs are mojorly annoying :(
[12:24] <animato> 1st, that power saving bug
[12:24] <Lynoure> Kernel related, it seems...
[12:25] <animato> 2nd, sometimes when i click the admin. button, it won't show the password window no matter what i do
[12:25] <animato> 3rd sometimes adept keeps on loading forever for no reason and won't open up
[12:25] <animato> 4rd i've had the main panel disappear on me one time before and konq froze :(
[12:26] <Hobbsee> animato: 2 - that's been around for ages.  seems like config files or something left from breezy
[12:26] <Hobbsee> animato: type /sysinfo?
[12:26] <wilfred> how do I change what kde does by default when I put an audio cd in?
[12:26] <Hobbsee> (in here)
[12:26] <animato> Sysinfo for 'ourcomp': Linux 2.6.15-25-k7 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2800+ at 2091 MHz (4187 bogomips), , RAM: 468/502MB, 119 proc's, 13.8h up
[12:27] <Hobbsee> animato: kde 3.5.3 has a whole lot of bug fixes in it - you may want to upgrade. see !kde3.5.3
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[12:27] <ubotu> [kde3.5.3]  to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[12:28] <animato> i've been using gnome before, never was fond of kde, but when dapper was released, i decided to give it another spin. esp since my gf started using kopete so i said, what the heck, let's try
[12:28] <kuzmaster> hey all
[12:28] <animato> it won't mess up anything upgrading to 3.53 right?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> hey kuzmaster
[12:28] <Hobbsee> animato: well, it's a new release, but i've not heard of problems with people upgrading
[12:29] <animato> kewl
[12:29] <animato> it might solve some the problems :)
[12:29] <animato> thanx
[12:29] <imbrandon> animato, SHOULDENT , but not garentee ( i'm running it personaly as is Hobbsee i think )
[12:30] <animato> what do i do with this error?
[12:30] <animato> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[12:30] <animato> oh there
[12:30] <imbrandon> thats not an error
[12:30] <imbrandon> thats good
[12:30] <animato> i've tried it again
[12:30] <animato> and now it says ok
[12:30] <imbrandon> kk
[12:30] <animato> what happens now after i type those commands?
[12:30] <animato> i should have it on adept?
[12:31] <imbrandon> have you added that deb line to your sources.list ?
[12:31] <animato> what deb line?
[12:31] <imbrandon> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[12:31] <imbrandon> ^^ that line
[12:31] <animato> oh right
[12:31] <animato> silly me
[12:31] <animato> ok
[12:31] <imbrandon> after you do that just type
[12:32] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:32] <imbrandon> it will upgrade your kde to 3.5.3
[12:32] <imbrandon> then restart kde ( log out and back in )
[12:32] <imbrandon> then enjoy kde bling ;)
[12:33] <Lynoure> bah, I cannot figure out whether this error should be reported to kpilot or kernel...
[12:33] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[12:33] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[12:33] <imbrandon> Lynoure, what error ?
[12:33] <Lynoure> imbrandon: a bit too long to paste here...
[12:34] <imbrandon> kubuntu.pastebin.com ;)
[12:36] <Lynoure> imbrandon: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/714595
[12:36] <Lynoure> imbrandon: Happens every time I try to sync with kpilot :(
[12:36] <animato> when i type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get the following error
[12:36] <animato> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:36] <animato> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:36] <animato> what do i do? :(
[12:37] <Hobbsee> animato: killall adept
[12:37] <imbrandon> close adept
[12:37] <imbrandon> err yea what hobsee said
[12:37] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: it wouldnt open in the first place, remember?  :P
[12:37] <animato> it wasn't open
[12:37] <Lynoure> It feels like living dangerously to depend on a Palmie and not having synced for week. Thank gods there is backup-to-SD programs
[12:37] <animato> but there
[12:37] <animato> now it works
[12:37] <animato> the only problem is, it gets stuck in the mirror.cc.columbia.edu mirror
[12:38] <animato> can i remove it?
[12:38] <imbrandon> sure
[12:38] <imbrandon> you can use any mirror you want
[12:38] <imbrandon> us.archive.ubuntu.com is good for us people
[12:39] <imbrandon> Lynoure, *looking*
[12:39] <animato> updaing :)
[12:39] <animato> thanx
[12:40] <imbrandon> Lynoure, that happens when you sync or plug in your palm ( i am figuriong its not a serial palm cradle its usb )
[12:42] <Lynoure> imbrandon: usb, yes. Then I sync, palms don't really show over usb before sync has been pressed on the device.
[12:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where do i find a tutorial on xgl installation in kubuntu?
[12:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xgl
[12:42] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:43] <slow-motion> bbl
[12:43] <Lynoure> (I mean they only show in lsusb when sync has been selected on the device)
[12:43] <imbrandon> ahh looks like kernel but not totaly sure and wouldent know where to start debuging that
[12:44] <imbrandon> but its never making it to kpilot stuff so its kernel
[12:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where do i find a tutorial on xgl installation in kubuntu?
[12:50] <Lynoure> imbrandon: It's just so much harder to find which package to report kernel related bugs to... I have 2.6.15-25-386 but that's no package...
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: i believe the package you want is linux-image-2.6.15?
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: The only time I have had xgl running sufficiently well is under the kororaa (gentoo based live cd) I would recommend building xgl from svn (using sse optimisations)
[12:55] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: Hmm, probably, thanks
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: linux-source-2.6.15 is what you file bugs against
[12:55] <Lynoure> Then I only need to figure out how to label it informatively...
[12:55] <imbrandon> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/linux-source-2.6.15
[12:55] <alessandro> Hi all, can you tell me the command to upgrade my OpenOffice and wich repository should use?
[12:56] <imbrandon> alessandro, what version of kubuntu are you using and what version do you want to upgrade to ?
[12:56] <animato> wow, i just finished updating to 3.5.3 and it totally sped up my system!
[12:57] <Hobbsee> animato: :)
[12:57] <animato> i'm impressed, i was having a few issues with 3.5.2 and now i think they're over
[12:57] <animato> thanx guys :)
[12:57] <Hobbsee> animato: not a problem
[12:57] <chavo> yup 3.5.3 loads in seconds here
[12:57] <animato> kde totally got me after using gnome for a long time :)
[12:57] <alessandro> I have Kubuntu 6.06 LTS and OpenOffice 2.0.2 On OpenOffice site the latest version is 2.0.3...
[12:57] <animato> just one last question
[12:57] <animato> two to be exact
[12:57] <Hobbsee> animato: shoot
[12:57] <animato> 1st, what happens if i tell it not to save my last session
[12:58] <Hobbsee> animato: you get an empty session the next time you login
[12:58] <animato> 2nd: kmix won't load up when i restart, how can i make it load up automatically
[12:58] <animato> but it will save my options and all doesn't it?
[12:58] <h3sp4wn> Hobbsee: Do you use konversation ? do you get  [Error]  \: Unknown command (when ever you leave a channel - I have ever since the lastest update of kde 3.5.3 (0.2 I think it was)
[12:58] <Hobbsee> options, yes.  but it wont automatically open the programs again as you left them
[12:58] <imbrandon> start kmix and exit with it still loaded OR link to it in .kde/Autostart
[12:58] <animato> oh ok
[12:58] <animato> i don't mind
[12:58] <chavo> animato, just run kmix it should stay in the tray
[12:58] <animato> oh ok thanx
[12:58] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, i do and no i dont
[12:59] <animato> i know, i just want it to auto load
[12:59] <Hobbsee> h3sp4wn: yes, no
[12:59] <animato> is .kde/autostart a dir?
[12:59] <imbrandon> animato, unless you close it it will auto load from then on
[12:59] <chavo> animato, yes
[12:59] <imbrandon> and yes ~/.kde/Autostart is a dir
[12:59] <chavo> Autostart with uppercase A
[12:59] <animato> i can't find it
[12:59] <Lynoure> imbrandon: submitted https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/50098 , short but hopefully to the point.
[01:00] <imbrandon> Lynoure, ok i'm sure the approperate people will get it now
[01:00] <animato> where can i find .kde/Autostart?
[01:00] <chavo> animato, in your home dir
[01:00] <imbrandon> animato, type " cd ~/.kde/Autostart "
[01:01] <animato> oh right thanx!
[01:01] <animato> just copy a link of kmix there?
[01:01] <imbrandon> animato, but like i said once you load kmix unless you explisitly unload it it will autoload everytime without doing that
[01:01] <imbrandon> animato, yes
[01:01] <animato> ok thanx
[01:02] <imbrandon> heya chavo
[01:02] <chavo> hi
[01:03] <animato> oh, i got another question about kopete
[01:03] <animato> how do i change the font on the contact list and messages? i can't find that option :(
[01:03] <square_head> hi
[01:03] <square_head> How can I set my super-key to Windows-key?
[01:04] <animato> oh found it
[01:04] <square_head> because It doesn't seem to work
[01:10] <Lynoure> h3sp4wn: Nice quit message... thoguh I just ruined the success by opening my mouth to my employer about it not being ok to violate laws about collecting private information... They weren't all that happy, but it was my information....
[01:23] <jonatan> uhm, ok , I have this problem with the latest updates ...
[01:24] <jonatan> After updating yesterday Dapper won't boot if I use the nvidia drivers, it boots fine with the nv ones
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: Unfortunately employers seldom like the truth unless it benefits them or their bottom line
[01:32] <slow-motion> re
[01:32] <alessandro> Hi guys! Just upgraded KDE to 3.5.3! It's breezy now!
[01:32] <accu> where does KDE get its keycode mappings from? my capslock key is mapped to Control_L
[01:33] <accu> ??
[01:33] <accu> (this is in dapper. breezy worked fine)
[01:34] <accu> If I manually remap keycode 66 to capslock and remove the symbol from the control modifier and add it to the lock modifier it works ok
[01:35] <DeadS0ul> i ned new music
[01:36] <accu> then, in .../share/xmodmap only the *ibm modmaps have this 66->control mapping.. setting another modmap doesn fix the problem however
[01:37] <Firetech> hmm
[01:37] <nico8481> lo
[01:37] <Firetech> my kde is seriously b0rked...  it doesn't find the crystal svg theme
[01:37] <Firetech> it still is in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg, but kde doesn't want to find it
[01:38] <accu> Firetech: maybe remove then install ?
[01:38] <Firetech> remove what?
[01:38] <accu> the crystalsvg theme
[01:38] <Firetech> what package contains crystalsvg?
[01:38] <accu> hm
[01:39] <accu> good question
[01:41] <accu> kdebase-data seems to have the largest part of it
[01:41] <Tommy2k4> hmm i used the autostart to make opera and kopete open on boot up and on boot it gives the error that they have no type= :s
[01:42] <chavo> Tommy2k4, did you ame .desktop files or copy them there?
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: still here?
[01:43] <giuseppe> ciao
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: sort of
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ciao
[01:43] <giuseppe> come posso fare per mettere msn su kubuntu
[01:43] <Tommy2k4> i didnt even know i was meant to do something with the files
[01:43] <Tommy2k4> it just asks what command to use
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: :) what did you mean with sufficiently well?
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: you mean  performances?
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> giuseppe: ? kopet
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> e
[01:44] <Firetech> could someopne please paste his/her kcrystalsvg index.theme file? (on pastebin) mine has disappeared...
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> giuseppe: sudo apt-get install kopete
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> giuseppe: anche se dovrebbe essere gi installato
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> giuseppe: scrivi kopete nella box che appare premendo ALT+F2
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Firetech: gimme a sec
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: Running quickly and I would say useably fast maybe you could get the source from a debian repository of someone who keeps upto date stuff and compile it with -sse
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's sse?
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> Multimedia instructions in p3 and athlon xp and greater
[01:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: oh, i thaught it was completely usable... instead as far as you are saying on laptops is practically impossible to see it working properly
[01:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Firetech: sorry, can't find kcrystalsvg
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: Its alpha software and hence if you are using it you should be testing the latest version (I think - no point in reporting bugs if they have already been fixed)
[01:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> giuseppe: risolto il problema?
[01:47] <Firetech> Tallia1Kubuntu: /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/index.theme
[01:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> giuseppe: comunque.. considera l'esistenza di #ubuntu-it :) qui ti insultano se parli in italiano.
[01:47] <giuseppe> ok adesso ci provo grazie mille
[01:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> de nada, ciao
[01:47] <Tommy2k4> chavo what am i supposed to do with these .desktop files
[01:48] <bayer> i have a little problem with sound - after every reboot, i have to re-configure xmms(alsa) to use the correct output device (and the correct parameters)
[01:48] <zorgluuu> q. im upgrading a kubuntu 6.04 to 6.06, 'full upgrade' in adept. it download a lot, starting to install package. now it is stuck in 'setting flash plugin-nonfree' i looked at the 'details' terminal, it doesnt ask any question or anything. any suggestion ?
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: It is not impossible to see it working properly - try the kororaa live cd and you will see it working properly (then maybe work out what they did and do it yourself)
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: yeah, but on a laptop and with kubuntu.. don't think it will be fast enough
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> What video card ?
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will try anyway, and i will let you know.. it's a laptop of a friend of mine
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> a VAIO, with 128MB ram
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> of video card, an nvidia, can't remember the model.... but he just bought the notebook
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> Check the video card type in the xgl card compatibility thing (if its nvidia you may be in look - 128mb of video ram ?
[01:50] <bayer> anyone?
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: yeah
[01:51] <zorgluuu> adept put aside, what are the other apps to upgrade packages ?
[01:52] <zorgluuu> i did ctrl-c in the adept 'details' terminal and adept went down :)
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> TalliaKubuntu: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389 - the best repositories are those - then try getting kde working with it from a ubuntu guide (you could rebuild the source with -sse)
[01:53] <zorgluuu> damn dpkg --configure -a is stuck too on Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ...
[01:53] <zorgluuu> did ctrl-c again and this time dpkg goes on :)
[01:54] <giuseppe> nn va come mai
[01:54] <zorgluuu> is there a way i could remove this flashplugin-nonfree ?
[01:54] <Tommy2k4> in session manager it says on login i can load a manually saved session, where do i go to save a session?
[01:55] <serenity> hi
[01:55] <serenity> is anyone of you using manDVD?
[01:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !ssh
[01:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[01:56] <zorgluuu> !flshplugin
[01:56] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zorgluuu
[01:56] <zorgluuu> !flashplugin
[01:56] <ubotu> zorgluuu: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:56] <zorgluuu> ok
[01:57] <giuseppe> tallia nn va inpossibile eseguire il comando specificato
[01:57] <giuseppe> ke posso fare mi butto dal balcone
[01:57] <zorgluuu> giuseppe, in english it would help :)
[01:58] <[Surge] > How do I set the default view for konqueror for automount devices? It keeps opening them in icon view which is getting really annoying. Default folders work fine (tree view)
[01:58] <zorgluuu> giuseppe, or in #kubuntu-es
[01:59] <square_head> Hi there.
[01:59] <square_head> I changed the date and now I can't sudo anymore
[01:59] <square_head> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 17 17:05:59 2006
[02:00] <zorgluuu> square_head, easy solution, reboot
[02:00] <Tommy2k4> im sure yesterday ctrl +f4 used to minimize everything but now it doesnt o_o
[02:01] <accu> no today that's ctrl-f5
[02:01] <accu> guess what tomorrow will bring
[02:01] <ubuntu> linux noob here thinking about switching distros ubuntu looks pretty easy for beginners
[02:01] <square_head> zorgluuu, but I know my root password can't I do something without rebooting :P ?
[02:01] <Tommy2k4> yea it is
[02:01] <ubuntu> im running suse 10.1 now
[02:01] <zorgluuu> square_head, yep but it is much harder
[02:02] <Tommy2k4> is ubuntu as good as xp about usb drives so i can unplug it at any time without risking losing data
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: No you shouldn't do that in xp either
[02:04] <[Surge] > Tommy2k4: I've had no problems. Unplugging the drive while you're copying files is a bad idea though! :)
[02:05] <Tommy2k4> well id never do it while files are in use lol
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: I will give you an example - copying files to a usb mp3 player unless you unmount it all the files will not actually be on the disk even the copy will have appeared to finish
[02:05] <slow-motion> bbl
[02:06] <square_head> "There are about two thousand software developers in Windows today."
[02:06] <square_head> omfgf
[02:06] <square_head> http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archive/2006/06/14/631438.aspx
[02:06] <Tommy2k4> why is that
[02:06] <Tommy2k4> xp has never had that problem
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> usb devices are mounted async I think that is the reason
[02:07] <Tommy2k4> k
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> I ended up with when ever you got thru a quarter of a song it changed back to what was on there previously (only once though)
[02:08] <slow-motion> re
[02:08] <[Surge] > Tommy2k4: Anyway it's not much work to "Safetly Remove" in kubuntu and whatever it's called in XP.
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> i know im sure ill get used to it
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> i used to use win2k on this pc and you have to safely remove it on there aswell
[02:09] <Tommy2k4> not xp though
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> You can set amarok 1.4 to mount and unmount the thing for you and hence do a sync
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> You are supposed to do it with xp
[02:10] <Tommy2k4> need to make it auto mount the usb drive now when i plug it in
[02:11] <Tommy2k4> would i use fstab for that
[02:11] <slidehack> Hello .......... I have a problem and my english is not very good ....... please speek someone Roamnian
[02:11] <slidehack> pls pls pls
[02:12] <Tommy2k4> your english doesnt seem that bad
[02:12] <slidehack> ooooo thank you ........ but i know english for mee ....... I have one problem with Apache
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> i dunno anything about apache
[02:13] <slidehack> when i put the html filles into /var/www/   and i start apache it is show me the index and i want to start in first page
[02:13] <slidehack> can help me someone ?
[02:14] <DeadS0ul> slidehack: what're you trying to do?
[02:14] <DeadS0ul> brb,
[02:14] <DeadS0ul> i'm gonna draw a tattoo on my nephews arm
[02:14] <slidehack> an site
[02:14] <square_head> back with some other questions
[02:14] <square_head> How can I reset Kwallet's password?
[02:14] <slidehack> in few days I will make an name for my IP and i wil have an ftp and apache
[02:15] <square_head> How can I modify when I press CTRL + BACKSPACE to dont exit X :|
[02:17] <[Surge] > Hmmm ... slidehack didn't stay long enough for an answer.
[02:18] <DeadS0ul> I drew a 'MOM' with a heart aroudn it on my 1 1/2 year old nephew
[02:28] <Leqtic> Can someone help me with Kismet :/ ?
[02:28] <Tommy2k4> Is there a way to change the system menu so that when I click on storage media it takes me to /media/ not storage:/media
[02:28] <Tommy2k4> i mean system:/media
[02:28] <uniq> leqtic: what's the problem?
[02:28] <Leqtic> Tommy2k4:  Create ur own
[02:28] <jme__> cest quoi kismet ?
[02:28] <Tommy2k4> how do i edit the system menu
[02:28] <Leqtic> uniq:  I can't make it funciton correctly
[02:28] <jme__> sorrry, what is kismet
[02:28] <Leqtic> It won't start and I have read the readme.
[02:29] <jme__> (several channels in multiple language is hard sometime :)
[02:29] <Leqtic> jme__:   apt-get kismet :)
[02:29] <uniq> jme__: it's a wireless-network scanner thing.
[02:29] <jme__> uniq: ok thanks
[02:29] <Leqtic> Tommy2k4:  right click and make a new shortcut to /media/
[02:29] <Leqtic> I love Linux, I really do, but does it have to be so hard to get some applikation to work :/
[02:29] <Leqtic> applications*
[02:30] <Leqtic> uniq:  Will you help me ?
[02:30] <uniq> leqtic: what's the error message? what wlan card do you have? what driver does it use?
[02:30] <Leqtic> I don't know what driver it use but I know it's a ra0
[02:30] <Leqtic> RAlink 2500/2600
[02:30] <uniq> ok, rt2500 probably then.
[02:30] <DeadS0ul> Leqtic it's free software, and not used that much, ...they take a while to get right =\
[02:31] <Leqtic> DeadS0ul: ah you changed ur nickname :)
[02:31] <Leqtic> uniq:  okay, so i go to /usr/etc/kismet.conf ?
[02:31] <Leqtic> uniq:  and change there.
[02:31] <Tommy2k4> Leqtic: right click on the menu?
[02:31] <Leqtic> Tommy2k4:  first do it on the desktop then move it
[02:31] <DeadS0ul> I did?
[02:31] <DeadS0ul> must
[02:31] <DeadS0ul> must've reconnected
[02:32] <Leqtic> uniq: media:/sda5/etc/kismet
[02:32] <Leqtic> uniq:  will u help me tell me what to change there and what to write.
[02:32] <uniq> leqtic: yes, edit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf, find the source= line, and set it to: 'source=rt2500,ra0,wifi'
[02:33] <jme__> be gratefull guys he does it for free
[02:33] <Tommy2k4> k i have the shortcut on the desktop
[02:33] <uniq> thanks jme__ :)
[02:33] <n3storm> hi everyone
[02:34] <jme__> uniq: serious you even do step by step on very specific stuff like configuring a given wifi card :)
[02:34] <Leqtic> uniq:  thanks
[02:34] <Leqtic> # YOU MUST CHANGE THIS TO BE THE SOURCE YOU WANT TO USE
[02:34] <Leqtic> source=rt2500,ra0,wifi
[02:34] <jme__> thanks to you :)
[02:34] <Leqtic> thank you uniq, gonna see if it works :D
[02:34] <Leqtic> I LOVE LINUX :D (once again)
[02:35] <square_head> I love linux too :P
[02:35] <Leqtic> HELL YEAH
[02:35] <Leqtic> IT OWRKS
[02:35] <Leqtic> sorry caps
[02:35] <Leqtic> :D
[02:35] <uniq> great :)
[02:37] <DeadS0ul> hah
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> Leqtic: Are you using wpa2 on your rt2500 ?
[02:39] <Leqtic> h3sp4wn:  ?
[02:39] <Leqtic> Im not using my wireless to surf atm.
[02:39] <Leqtic> wpa2 is an encryption right?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> Yes
[02:39] <Tommy2k4> how do i rm a directory
[02:39] <Leqtic> Im mainly gonna have it as a protection, as you see some neighbour has taken photos at our "fence".. and reported them to the governement cuz they are too tall, and u need permission.
[02:39] <chavo> Tommy2k4, rm -r
[02:39] <Leqtic> Therefore, im gonna keep a lookout for the coward pathetic lowlife that took the photos
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> ty
[02:41] <Leqtic> uniq:
[02:41] <Leqtic> does kismet save anything on ur harddrive?
[02:41] <Leqtic> like logs or stuff, need to remove them.
[02:42] <I_Died_Once> Hi people
[02:42] <I_Died_Once> I'm experiencing a weird problem
[02:43] <I_Died_Once> A program has my packaging database system locked
[02:43] <uniq> leqtic: yes, it logs everything to /var/log/kismet/
[02:43] <Leqtic> thanks uniq :)
[02:43] <I_Died_Once> I've tried rebooting and i get the same message that the database is in use by another program
[02:44] <I_Died_Once> apt-get is not running, nor is synaptic
[02:44] <uniq> leqtic: you might also want to use 'shred' to delete them, if you want to delete them securely.
[02:44] <Leqtic> uniq:  nah
[02:44] <Leqtic> just remove them so they won't take space :=)
[02:44] <I_Died_Once> or anything else, but when i try to run adept, it still tells me the database is locked
[02:44] <Leqtic> got linux on a small partition..
[02:44] <I_Died_Once> is there a way to find out which program is using it?
[02:45] <uniq> leqtic: ah, ok :)
[02:45] <I_Died_Once> using Ksysguard, there is no apt-get running, or adept, or synaptic
[02:45] <I_Died_Once> but i need to install programs, and this database is locked
[02:45] <I_Died_Once> any ideas?
[02:46] <uniq> i_died_once: start konsole from the menu. and run this command' fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[02:46] <uniq> i_died_once: i forgot to add sudo, the command is 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[02:46] <I_Died_Once> did nothing
[02:47] <I_Died_Once> or, did that unlock my database?
[02:47] <uniq> maybe, try 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:47] <I_Died_Once> nope, still locked
[02:47] <Tommy2k4> how do i use kcontrol autostart
[02:47] <visik7> kubuntu ubiquity is bugged
[02:48] <visik7> it support the half of the fs of ubuntu ubiquityh
[02:48] <visik7> and crash frequently
[02:48] <I_Died_Once> yeah, but I hate gnome
[02:48] <uniq> i_died_once: ok, try: 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' (this time without the -i)
[02:48] <I_Died_Once> not NEARLY as configurable
[02:48] <visik7> I_Died_Once: me too
[02:48] <visik7> I_Died_Once: infact I'm trying the alternate cd
[02:51] <uniq> i_died_once: if anything at all is using the dpkg database, the first command i gave you should ask you if you want to kill it. If it doesn't ask for anything nothing is using the dpkg database.
[02:52] <I_Died_Once> that first command
[02:52] <uniq> i_died_once: if you could paste the error message you get if you try 'sudo apt-get update' on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com that would be helpful for me to help you solve your problem.
[02:52] <I_Died_Once> sudo  fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:52] <Adam_eM> hi there
[02:52] <I_Died_Once> does nothing, just brings me back to the prompt
[02:53] <Adam_eM> i just wanted to install some packages, but synaptic freezed during install so i terminated it. Now it says i should do dpkg --configure -a but it doesnt worl as well
[02:54] <uniq> adam_em: in konsole try the command 'sudo dpkg --configure -a', if it gives an error message, please paste it to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:55] <I_Died_Once> not sure what exactly did it, but its unlocked now
[02:55] <I_Died_Once> woot
[02:55] <I_Died_Once> thx uniq
[02:55] <I_Died_Once> et all
[02:55] <uniq> i_died_once: the command did it, save it to a notes.txt for later use :)
[02:56] <I_Died_Once> ...and I see it was the Ksetiathome package
[02:56] <Adam_eM> uniq: it only says 'configuring flashplugin-nonfree...' but it takes ages, and nothing actually happens
[02:57] <I_Died_Once> it was trying to resolve a connection to the seti at home site
[02:57] <uniq> adam_em: just wait some minutes.
[02:58] <Adam_eM> uniq: are you sure it does anything ? My harddrive's led doesn't even blinks
[02:59] <jonatan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15856 <-- Any sugestions ?
[02:59] <uniq> adam_em: not sure, but if you stop it you won't get anywhere closer to a solution. It must be configured.
[03:00] <Adam_eM> ok i'll wait then
[03:00] <uniq> jonatan: what driver is this? fglrx?
[03:01] <jonatan> uniq, nvidia
[03:01] <jonatan> nv works, nvidia gives the above
[03:01] <jonatan> uniq: it all worked fine until last friday's update
[03:01] <jonatan> uniq: that is, yesterday
[03:02] <uniq> jonatan: it's looking for a kernel module that's not loaded... I'm on ati so i would have to search the web.. just hang on.
[03:02] <slow-motion> re
[03:05] <uniq> jonatan: do you use the nvidia-glx driver, or the nvidia-glx-legacy driver?
[03:05] <jonatan> uniq: nvidia-glx
[03:06] <uniq> jonatan: please run this in console: 'dmesg|grep -n nvrm'
[03:06] <jonatan> uniq: ok, hang on
[03:06] <jonatan> uniq: no output
[03:06] <uniq> do you get something like "NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module.."
[03:06] <jonatan> nope
[03:06] <jonatan> nothing it appears
[03:07] <jonatan> it seems to exit cleanly as far as I can tell
[03:07] <uniq> ok, try 'sudo modprobe nvidia'
[03:08] <uniq> and then 'dmesg|grep -n nvrm'
[03:08] <jonatan> uniq: FATAL module nvidia not found
[03:08] <uniq> ah. ok.
[03:09] <jonatan> the package is installed tho : /
[03:10] <pmyteh> I've just installed kubuntu on top of my existing ubuntu installation and I'm having trouble with my KDE display settings - can anyone offer any advice?
[03:12] <accu> jonatan: try sudo depmod -a
[03:12] <pmyteh> I seem to have got a 1024x768 display, but a much larger desktop - and I can't find anything in the control panel to reconfigure.
[03:12] <jonatan> accu no output
[03:12] <uniq> jonatan: do you have the latest linux-restricted-modules installed?
[03:13] <accu> thats ok. now try sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:13] <jonatan> uniq: uhm, I dunno
[03:13] <uniq> jonatan: you could also try 'dpkg -S nvidia.ko'
[03:13] <uniq> to check if you have the nvidia module available at all.
[03:14] <jonatan> ok thats doing /something/
[03:14] <jonatan> uhm, ok
[03:14] <jonatan> *nvidia.ko* not found
[03:14] <jonatan> I take it thats bad then ...
[03:14] <uniq> no module named nvidia then.
[03:15] <uniq> try to install linux-restricted-modules-386 if you have a 386 kernel.
[03:15] <jonatan> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[03:15] <uniq> I have to go now, going out for pizza with the family. See you guys.
[03:15] <jonatan> ok, thanks for the help
[03:16] <uniq> do you have the restricted repositories enabled?
[03:16] <uniq> 'apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules' pick the one that matches your kernel.
[03:16] <uniq> really have to go now, bye.
[03:16] <jonatan> bye
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> !opers
[03:17] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tommy2k4
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> !opera
[03:17] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[03:17] <jonatan> oh ok, THAT woudl explain it
[03:18] <jonatan> I have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 but runing 2.6.15-25-386
[03:21] <Tommy2k4> how do i install a .deb
[03:21] <Tommy2k4> i really need to stop forgetting these basic commands :(
[03:21] <Tommy2k4> !deb
[03:21] <Doat> can i make it so that konsole makes links from urls? (for irssi)
[03:22] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.dev
[03:22] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb
[03:22] <Tommy2k4> got it :)
[03:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:22] <Tommy2k4> i also need to stop forgetting to end the program before upgrading it >_<
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> ** (process:7013): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> whats that mean?
[03:27] <n3storm> hi jpatrick
[03:27] <jpatrick> hi n3storm
[03:28] <tadas> hello
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> help i get an error when installing a .deb :'(
[03:29] <tadas> has anyone running kubuntu on ASUS ?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: pastebin the error
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> just 1 line
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> ** (process:7013): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[03:30] <charlie5> hulloo ... is there any advantage in installing from source packages rather than the binary ones ?
[03:30] <tadas> faster and customizing
[03:30] <Hobbsee> charlie5: no
[03:30] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: ack.  which deb was that?
[03:30] <Tommy2k4> latest opera daily
[03:31] <ctothej> Imagery: looking to buy a printer/scanner, is there a specific brand that is most compatible with linux? how is the lexmark support?
[03:31] <tadas> how do enable or disable my touchpad with ksynaptics?
[03:31] <Tommy2k4> opera-static_9.0-20060616.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[03:31] <tadas> currently it doesnt work.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: did it actually fail, or just spit that out?
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> spat that out then nothing else
[03:32] <charlie5> so if i have a pentium iv, it would prob be better to use source packages for better performance ?
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> maybe i should check if it actually upgraded :p
[03:32] <tadas> if u like compiling - yes
[03:32] <Hobbsee> charlie5: not really - it takes so long to compile anyway
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> ooh silly me it still upgraded :p
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> i guess i should just ignore the error
[03:33] <Hobbsee> charlie5: were you using the 686 kernel?
[03:34] <charlie5> Hobbsee: just the vanilla kernel at the moment ... i was thinking of getting the i686 SMP kernel, or maybe trying to compile my own kernel (*shudder* ;)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> charlie5: the linux-image-686 is compiled for performance for p4 etc systems
[03:37] <charlie5> Hobbsee: i'll give it shot, for sure
[03:37] <charlie5> <it a shot>
[03:39] <Imagery> ctothej: why are you asking me?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> charlie5: cool :)
[03:48] <Tommy2k4> my desktop and kopete have sorta froze :s
[03:51] <Child4Christ> hi :)
[03:51] <Tommy2k4> can i change icon of .desktop files
[03:51] <Tommy2k4> nvm found it
[03:51] <Child4Christ> i know you can change the engine in amaroK just not sure how, anyone know how to?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: killall kdesktop
[03:52] <Tommy2k4> Child4Christ:  configure > engine
[03:52] <Child4Christ> yea i did that but the only selectable one is xine an that one freaks out
[03:55] <I_Died_Once> this looks like one of the better distro chats
[03:55] <I_Died_Once> i had problems on suse, and again on mandrake... and all the help you could get was "read the documentation"
[03:56] <I_Died_Once> "read the docs!" "read the FAQ" and that was all they'd say
[03:56] <abattoir> Child4Christ: you need to install other engines
[03:56] <I_Died_Once> you guys are great
[03:56] <Child4Christ> yea but umm, how?
[03:56] <abattoir> Child4Christ: open up adept
[03:56] <Child4Christ> my eyes bled readin the site but it didnt tell you how to install another engine :(
[03:56] <I_Died_Once> I can anaswer the amarok one!
[03:56] <Child4Christ> i can only use apt-get
[03:56] <Hobbsee> I_Died_Once: well, sometimes that is the answer :P
[03:57] <abattoir> Child4Christ: type amarok in the search bar, you should see the engine options
[03:57] <Child4Christ> logged in remotely to my box at home
[03:57] <I_Died_Once> ok child4christ... from amarok
[03:57] <Hobbsee> I_Died_Once: for some of the really simple stuff, anyway
[03:57] <I_Died_Once> click on settings, then to configure amarok
[03:57] <I_Died_Once> that shouldopen a new little window
[03:57] <abattoir> Child4Christ: one sec, i'll tell you the exact package names
[03:58] <I_Died_Once> on the left panel in that new window, click on engines
[03:58] <I_Died_Once> there should be a drop down menu and it should be there
[03:58] <I_Died_Once> if not.... close amarok, exit out... then open up adept
[03:58] <I_Died_Once> type in amarok in the search and install all the packages it gives you
[03:59] <abattoir> Child4Christ: depending on the amarok release, other engines may or may not be available.
[03:59] <I_Died_Once> once thats done, go back to amarok and the engines should be there
[03:59] <Child4Christ> its 1.4 or 14 :)
[03:59] <abattoir> Child4Christ: try 'apt-get'ting amarok-gstreamer or amarok-helix
[04:00] <abattoir> Child4Christ: amarok-arts too
[04:00] <I_Died_Once> Chris Tucker: You were great in "Rush Hour"
[04:00] <Child4Christ> arts has broken packages
[04:01] <I_Died_Once> I can't say enought good stuff about the xine engine for amarok
[04:01] <Child4Christ> xine is what freaks out
[04:02] <Child4Christ> it says it cant initialise audio-devices but happily contines playin till you click ok or w/e on one of the multiple erro boxes for the same thing then amarok dies :|
[04:02] <Child4Christ> *error
[04:02] <I_Died_Once> open up a terminal and run "xine-check"
[04:02] <I_Died_Once> but without the quotes
[04:03] <abattoir> Child4Christ: afaik, only xine and arts engine packages are available in the official repos...
[04:03] <abattoir> Child4Christ: for gstreamer, helix, i think you should compile yourself
[04:04] <I_Died_Once> and since you're a child for christ, and using amarok... I'm looking for some older "Carman" and Petra mp3's
[04:06] <Child4Christ> you like carman?
[04:07] <Child4Christ> they're usually played on the radios :)
[04:07] <Child4Christ> gtg though thx for the help, cyas in a bit :)
[04:07] <I_Died_Once> not the older stuff
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> hm i only have 3mb ram free
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> does linux apps try to use as much ram is possible?
[04:11] <N30PsYcH-e> hello
[04:11] <N30PsYcH-e> anyone home?
[04:12] <itay> Does some one know a way to lunch a specific script befor kicker?
[04:13] <itay> *someone
[04:13] <itay> *before
[04:13] <n30> can someone please help me
[04:14] <itay> what is your problem dpkg_ / n30?
[04:14] <n30> I used caps in ubuntu - not knowing i would be banned
[04:14] <n30> (was just glad my prob was solved so sent shoutts out to people who helped me and got banned for using caps)
[04:14] <itay> what is it "caps" ?
[04:15] <raphink> you better talk to seveas then n30
[04:15] <n30> capital letters
[04:15] <itay> oh
[04:15] <n30> hmm
[04:16] <itay> I don't think you were banned
[04:16] <n30> I am
[04:16] <itay> n30
[04:16] <n30> it says
[04:16] <n30> you are banned from ubuntu
[04:16] <n30> You are banned from this channel.
[04:16] <itay> you mean ubuntu #channel right ?
[04:16] <raphink> n30: talk to seveas
[04:16] <raphink> :p
[04:16] <n30> yes
[04:16] <n30> i sent a mesage to seveas
[04:16] <n30> no reply
[04:16] <raphink> are you identified on the network?
[04:17] <n30> yes
[04:17] <itay> I don't know n30
[04:17] <raphink> n30 then wait
[04:18] <itay> what irc client do u use n3o ?
[04:18] <n3o> im using chatzilla
[04:18] <n3o> well
[04:18] <JavaByte> hey
[04:18] <itay> hey JavaByte
[04:19] <coreymon77> hi everybody
[04:19] <coreymon77> i got a question
[04:19] <neopsyche> so can anyone here help me with my problem?
[04:20] <[Surge] > Tommy2k4: Yes the kernel uses as much as possible but most of it will probably be cached data.
[04:20] <itay> Does someone know how to lunch a program before kicker ?
[04:20] <coreymon77> everytime i start up kubuntu i have to type sudo iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d to get my internet to work
[04:21] <neopsyche> I cant seem to get through
[04:21] <neopsyche> to seveas
[04:21] <[Surge] > Tommy2k4: If you do a "free" you'll see where the memory is being used.
[04:21] <coreymon77> anyone know how i could get t hat command ti run automatically on boot
[04:21] <neopsyche> I dont know how this server works
[04:21] <JavaByte> i'm on a live CD atm as my install is forked - i updated yesterday (full update - 50  packages) and now i get no KDE - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg give me "xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[04:21] <JavaByte> what can i do?
[04:21] <neopsyche> can anyone unban me from ubuntu?
[04:21] <neopsyche> or can someone here help me with my linux problem?
[04:21] <neopsyche> I installed ubuntu on my old p1
[04:22] <coreymon77> guys
[04:22] <coreymon77> anyone know what i could do
[04:22] <neopsyche> but when i installed it had no mouse attatched
[04:22] <neopsyche> so now the mouse isnt working when i plugged it in
[04:22] <neopsyche> can anyone unban me from ubuntu?
[04:22] <JavaByte> coreymon77: is that to authenticate on a wireless sever
[04:22] <neopsyche> no response from seveas
[04:23] <[Surge] > neopsyche: Bans are normally temporary - what was the ban message?
[04:23] <neopsyche> You are banned from this channel.
[04:23] <Tommy2k4>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:23] <Tommy2k4> Mem:        255156     253076       2080          0       1196      73416
[04:23] <neopsyche> (for using caps)
[04:23] <Tommy2k4> so do i technically have 75mb free if needed
[04:24] <coreymon77> javabyte: yes it is
[04:24] <[Surge] > Tommy2k4: Yes - it'll use the cached RAMif it needs it.
[04:24] <coreymon77> Javabyte: all i want is for that command to run automatically on boot
[04:24] <Tommy2k4> kk
[04:25] <coreymon77> javabyte: how would i do that
[04:25] <JavaByte> you should be able to set it up in a network profile
[04:26] <JavaByte> system settings - network settings - network profiles - create new
[04:27] <neopsyche> can anyone help me set up my mouse?
[04:27] <neopsyche> it seems it wasnt installed
[04:27] <neopsyche> when i did the installation
[04:28] <neopsyche> the mouse was removed
[04:28] <neopsyche> I thought i could add it later
[04:28] <neopsyche> it doesnt seem to be working now
[04:28] <neopsyche> what do i have to do to get it working
[04:28] <neopsyche> anyone have any ideas?
[04:29] <neopsyche> im in shell at the moment
[04:29] <neopsyche> very new to linux
[04:31] <JavaByte> neopsyche: goto system settings - mouse
[04:31] <JavaByte> what do you see there?
[04:31] <coreymon77> JavaByte: what do i do
[04:33] <JavaByte> coreymon77: create a new profile call it default - then create another and call it test
[04:33] <coreymon77> ?
[04:35] <JavaByte> so that you can safely change settings
[04:35] <coreymon77> how do i do that
[04:35] <coreymon77> i have my default account
[04:35] <coreymon77> coreymon
[04:35] <coreymon77> that i am using right now
[04:35] <coreymon77> that i signed into
[04:35] <JavaByte> nm - i gotta go
[04:35] <coreymon77> f**ck
[04:35] <raphink> sudo adduser default
[04:35] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: what happened?
[04:35] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:35] <raphink> will create an account for user "default"
[04:36] <soulrider> uhm i need to help
[04:36] <coreymon77> Hobbsee: in order to authenticate my wireless
[04:36] <soulrider> yesterday i decided to get kubuntu
[04:36] <soulrider> but i wanna run it live, and not install it just yet
[04:37] <soulrider> i booted form the CD, but i dont have a live option, only install
[04:37] <coreymon77> i have to type in iwconfig ra0 essid cohens key 1a1e28f24d every time i boot in order to get my internet working
[04:37] <raphink> soulrider: sorry???
[04:37] <Hobbsee> soulrider: did you download the cd, or the install cd?
[04:37] <soulrider> the CD i think :-/
[04:37] <coreymon77> what i want is for that to be exectued on boot
[04:37] <raphink> soulrider: are you using the kubuntu 6.06 desktop CD?
[04:37] <soulrider> hang on
[04:37] <soulrider> let me get the label
[04:37] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: you should be able to specify that in /etc/network/interfaces - and if that's your keyID, you may now want to change it
[04:38] <soulrider> what i got was this kubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[04:38] <raphink> soulrider: this is not the one you want
[04:38] <raphink> you want the desktop iso
[04:38] <soulrider> oh >.<
[04:38] <soulrider> what i got was the installer?
[04:39] <raphink> you got the text installer
[04:39] <raphink> the desktop CD is both live and installer
[04:39] <soulrider> whoch is even worse... right?
[04:39] <soulrider> oh
[04:39] <soulrider> duh
[04:39] <soulrider> im sucha  tard.
[04:39] <soulrider> i must have chosen the wrong torrent
[04:39] <coreymon77> hobbsee: how would i do that
[04:39] <raphink> soulrider: right
[04:40] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: have a look at how they've done it in man interfaces
[04:40] <raphink> soulrider: you can download from the website directly, too
[04:40] <soulrider> so what i want is  kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso     right?
[04:40] <raphink> yes
[04:40] <soulrider> yea, but isnt BT more friendly?
[04:40] <soulrider> since they wont have to pay for the bandwith
[04:40] <raphink> sure
[04:41] <coreymon77> hobbsee: how do i get to it, through control center
[04:41] <coreymon77> >
[04:41] <soulrider> ill use torrent hten :)
[04:41] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: through a konsole
[04:41] <kkathman> greetings, Hobbsee
[04:41] <Hobbsee> hey kkathman
[04:41] <coreymon77> what do i trype
[04:41] <coreymon77> type*
[04:41] <soulrider> oh well, im gonna go ahve lunch
[04:41] <soulrider> bye bye!
[04:41] <soulrider> ^^
[04:44] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:44] <coreymon77> can i get java runtime environment through apt?
[04:45] <pcfan> coreymon77: search java runtime in synaptic or whatever in package's descriptions
[04:46] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:46] <pcfan> exit
[04:46] <coreymon77> how can i install multiple things with apt (console) at once?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: sudo apt-get install package1 package 2 blah blah blah
[04:47] <linuxmonkey> whats new Hobbsee
[04:47] <Hobbsee> linuxmonkey: not a lot, looking at some bug reports, looking for some to kill off...
[04:47] <linuxmonkey> cool
[04:49] <Hobbsee> sheehs, that's one heck of a lot of bugs.
[04:56] <Raven301> How do I set Firefox as my default browser?  When I click on a link Konqueror  keeps coming up
[04:56] <Hobbsee> !tell gilligan_ about packagingguide
[04:56] <Hobbsee> Raven301: system settings, kde components
[04:57] <Raven301> Hobbsee:  thank you very much
[04:57] <Hobbsee> Raven301: not a problem
[05:02] <VincentMX> yo
[05:03] <VincentMX> i'm trying to watch some small movies, but i cannot play movies in Konqueror, firefox, or mozilla-browser, even after installing mozilla-mplayer
[05:04] <VincentMX> or do i need to logout&login again to make mozilla-mplayer work?
[05:06] <piphoe`> hey guys wats a good program for transferring files btw my kubuntu box & my xp box ??
[05:06] <linuxmonkey> piphoe`: FTP
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> smbmount lets you mount an xp share (you need to install smbfs first)
[05:07] <VincentMX> yes
[05:07] <VincentMX> or ftp server
[05:08] <Tommy2k4> VincentMX: you need the mplayerplug-in aswell as mplayer
[05:08] <VincentMX> install filezilla on xp, and download all files from your xp b0x to your |_1|\|uX b0x
[05:08] <VincentMX> ok
[05:08] <VincentMX> thx
[05:08] <VincentMX> i have mplayer
[05:08] <piphoe`> smbfs? ok... and which program should i use in xp ?
[05:08] <piphoe`> ahh ok
[05:08] <piphoe`> good
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> ncftp is a better ftp client and available in both xp and linux
[05:09] <piphoe`> ncftp interesting
[05:09] <Tommy2k4> what do people use, xchat or konversation
[05:09] <VincentMX> yes, but filezilla is a good win32 server
[05:09] <VincentMX> i prefer xchat
[05:09] <slow-motion> http://static.flickr.com/64/167011569_837bc20969_b.jpg
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> Gui ftp servers seem a little pointless
[05:10] <VincentMX> true
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> You may as well just use the one in IIS
[05:10] <VincentMX> but people who use win32 are often too stupid for cli
[05:10] <Chris_Tucker> NO
[05:10] <Chris_Tucker> NO
[05:10] <piphoe`> does filezilla cum in both linux & windows ?
[05:10] <Chris_Tucker> NEVER IIS
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> Chris_Tucker: If you set it up properly it can be secure
[05:11] <VincentMX> piphoe`: no, you need to download
[05:11] <VincentMX> but if you can, use a cli program
[05:11] <Chris_Tucker> i despise IIS so much the letters stuck out like not a sore thumb, but a missing one!
[05:11] <VincentMX> w00t
[05:13] <VincentMX> hmm
[05:13] <VincentMX> nevermind about mozilla-mplayer
[05:14] <VincentMX> i'm trying to watch less pr0n anyway
[05:15] <VincentMX> w00t! wanadoo will become Orange
[05:16] <VincentMX> so my hostmask will change, and i won' t be banned from any channel anymore
[05:16] <VincentMX> then i can be annoying again, in #windows on EFnet
[05:17] <VincentMX> it' s great fun getting those pissed
[05:18] <VincentMX> some old jokes can still make them angry, like saying you downloaded a game, but it said it needed windows xp or better, so you installed linux
[05:18] <VincentMX> maked them very pissed last time i tried
[05:18] <VincentMX> :)
[05:23] <VincentMX> dude
[05:24] <VincentMX> 7|-|1Z b0x 1z S3R10uz|_y t00 sl0w for Kubuntu
[05:24] <piphoe`> VincentMX, yes ! i do the SAME thing ! :))
[05:24] <VincentMX> :)
[05:24] <piphoe`> *huggies*
[05:26] <piphoe`> i've even gotten death threats from BOTH #windows AND #computers
[05:26] <piphoe`> lala
[05:26] <VincentMX> :)
[05:26] <piphoe`> bunch o rednex in those
[05:26] <VincentMX> it' s great fun isn' t it?
[05:26] <piphoe`> yes its wat i was B0rN 4
[05:27] <VincentMX> 1|\||)33|)
[05:27] <piphoe`> another great way to get deaththreats is mentioning Steve Gibson's name in those channels
[05:27] <VincentMX> ok
[05:27] <VincentMX> who' s steve gibson?
[05:27] <coreymon77> guys
[05:28] <coreymon77> i need some more help
[05:28] <coreymon77> my video card
[05:28] <coreymon77> i need it set up
[05:28] <VincentMX> ok
[05:28] <VincentMX> nVidea?
[05:28] <coreymon77> yup
[05:28] <VincentMX> ATI?
[05:28] <VincentMX> ok
[05:28] <VincentMX> nVidea
[05:28] <coreymon77> geforce2 mx
[05:28] <piphoe`> gibson is an asm programmer that criticizes MS security a year BEFORE each new windows version comes out
[05:28] <VincentMX> old one :)
[05:28] <VincentMX> ok
[05:28] <coreymon77> yah
[05:29] <coreymon77> but it still runs chromium bsu and tux racer perfectly
[05:29] <neopsyche> can someone help me set up apache on my system ubuntu
[05:29] <VincentMX> ok
[05:29] <coreymon77> but i do admit: i neede a new one
[05:29] <VincentMX> brb
[05:29] <piphoe`> gibson is teh guy hoo wrote spinrite
[05:29] <coreymon77> they are just so damn expensive
[05:29] <VincentMX> ok
[05:30] <VincentMX> brb
[05:30] <coreymon77> i cant afford the atleast $500 it takes to get a decent one
[05:30] <neopsyche> shouts out thanks ubotu for solving apache problem
[05:30] <piphoe`> gibson is kinda like the Aldous Huxley of computer security
[05:30] <VincentMX> ok
[05:31] <coreymon77> hopefully they will drop in price a bit, since the canadian dollar is rising a lot
[05:31] <VincentMX> ok
[05:31] <VincentMX> i'm looking for you
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[05:31] <VincentMX> driver you need
[05:31] <coreymon77> neopsyche if you want to thank ubotu give him a botsnack (type !botsnack)
[05:31] <coreymon77> ;)
[05:31] <VincentMX> !botsnack
[05:31] <ubotu> thanks vincentmx :)
[05:32] <piphoe`> botsnack??
[05:32] <VincentMX> lol
[05:32] <VincentMX> a snack for a bot
[05:32] <VincentMX> irc bot
[05:32] <piphoe`> ohh haha like in da zoo !
[05:32] <VincentMX> automated script, that gives info and shit loke that
[05:32] <coreymon77> anyways vincent
[05:32] <coreymon77> back to my prob
[05:32] <VincentMX> hmm
[05:32] <VincentMX> it isn' t there anymore
[05:32] <piphoe`> !botsnack
[05:32] <ubotu> :)
[05:33] <piphoe`> :((
[05:33] <coreymon77> ive done this many times before (setting up my card) i just forget what to do
[05:33] <VincentMX> he smiled
[05:33] <piphoe`> ohh!!
[05:33] <piphoe`> !bothuggie
[05:33] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, piphoe`
[05:33] <VincentMX> coreymon77: it ain't thewre no more
[05:33] <piphoe`> i wanna hug botty
[05:33] <coreymon77> ???
[05:33] <VincentMX> the driver
[05:34] <coreymon77> its gotta be somewhere
[05:34] <VincentMX> yes
[05:34] <VincentMX> it used to be in apt repo
[05:34] <coreymon77> we could put it in there
[05:34] <coreymon77> there has gotta be a 3rd party repo
[05:34] <coreymon77> search google
[05:35] <VincentMX> yes
[05:35] <piphoe`> !google bothug
[05:35] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, piphoe`
[05:35] <Tommy2k4> How come XChat won't open a link when I click on it unless I right click on it and go open in Opera
[05:35] <Tommy2k4> Right clicking and going open in browser doesn't work either
[05:36] <coreymon77> vincent: should i search or are you gonna
[05:36] <VincentMX> already have
[05:36] <VincentMX> and found
[05:36] <coreymon77> oh!
[05:36] <VincentMX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:36] <VincentMX> :)
[05:36] <VincentMX> life can be so simple
[05:37] <VincentMX> :)
[05:37] <VincentMX> piphoe`: it doesn't do alot does it?
[05:37] <piphoe`> :(
[05:37] <coreymon77> i guess i should just replace everytime it says Synaptic with adept
[05:37] <VincentMX> yes
[05:38] <piphoe`> i wanna bot hug so bad i can taste it
[05:38] <VincentMX> piphoe`: join #windows, i'm going to say the gibsone thing
[05:39] <VincentMX> they not responding
[05:40] <bob_in_florence> bif starts now to install kubuntu 6.06 on his computer ...
[05:40] <Chris_Tucker> bob_in_florence, it rocks... running it now, just switched 2 days ago
[05:41] <VincentMX> piphoe`: wtf? they ignore me
[05:41] <uniq> vincentmx: please don't coordinate spamming #windows from here. And spamming #windows won't do any good. Respect others please. Thanks.
[05:41] <VincentMX> ok
[05:42] <bob_in_florence> Do I have to reformat also my /home (already bkpd!), if i had previously a non-so-good running kubuntu breezy on my comp?
[05:43] <uniq> bob_in_florence: no. Reformatting /home is not needed.
[05:43] <Chris_Tucker> if its on a diff partition than your /, no
[05:43] <Chris_Tucker> just flag it as /home
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> !yahoo
[05:43] <ubotu> methinks yahoo is You can use Gaim for chatting on the Yahoo network: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[05:44] <coreymon77> is vincent still here
[05:44] <Chris_Tucker> !sucks
[05:44] <ubotu> I guess sucks is a word you should NOT use in #ubuntu
[05:44] <Chris_Tucker> Lol!
[05:44] <Chris_Tucker> no yahoo sucks..
[05:44] <CaBlGuY> !blowme
[05:44] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:44] <uniq> nor #kubuntu please.
[05:44] <VincentMX> coreymon77: yesd
[05:44] <CaBlGuY> :)
[05:44] <Chris_Tucker> uniq, i love kubuntu, yahoo sucks
[05:44] <coreymon77> vincent: how do i know which linux image i am using
[05:45] <niekie> Anyone experienced kbtobexsrv segfaulting when you receive some files via Bluetooth and you click right next to a received file in the received files box?
[05:45] <Chris_Tucker> coreymon77, uname -r
[05:45] <Chris_Tucker> in a command terminal coreymon77
[05:45] <VincentMX> uname -r in konsole
[05:46] <visik7> if I have a complex table partition kubuntu ubiquity crash or mess up the partition table
[05:46] <coreymon77> okay
[05:46] <visik7> comlex = 2 primary and 1 logical
[05:46] <coreymon77> its the 386 one
[05:46] <coreymon77> but which one of those
[05:47] <VincentMX> are you using dapper?
[05:47] <Chris_Tucker> coreymon77, paste the whole line
[05:47] <Chris_Tucker> 2.x.x-xx
[05:47] <VincentMX> then it's probably 2.6.15
[05:47] <uniq> visik7: please report it to https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/+package
[05:47] <coreymon77> there is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386
[05:48] <coreymon77> oh
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> coreymon77, match the version you have
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> uname -r produces 2.x.xx-xx
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> Anyone have an experience of troubleshooing hostapd
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> with a cpu version after
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> just match the exact number
[05:48] <coreymon77> i just noticed that my uname -r thing says 2.6.15-25-386 so thats my answer right?
[05:48] <kijutsu> I want to see about using the nvidia driver that's not included with X.  The official driver form nvidia that doesn't suck.  Is it in adept or do i have to manually install it?
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> coreymon77, yes
[05:49] <VincentMX> hmm
[05:49] <Chris_Tucker> visik7, strange, i have 3 primary, and two logical, and all works fine here in dapper
[05:50] <bob_in_florence> would  you have one or two partitions for / and /home, on a 80G hd recent laptop?
[05:50] <coreymon77> okay
[05:50] <Chris_Tucker> bob_in_florence, your choice, seperate is good for saftey of your files in a crash... and together is fine in general
[05:50] <coreymon77> im restarting x now
[05:50] <coreymon77> lets see if it worked?
[05:50] <uniq> bob_in_florence: on laptops with small disks i use one partition for / because it'
[05:50] <visik7> Chris_Tucker: general problems of kubuntu ubiquity are finds by many ppl I know
[05:51] <coreymon77> here goes
[05:51] <VincentMX> kubuntu has easter egg :P : sudo apt-get install beep-media-player, turn volume to max, open your window, download some mp3 (like nirvana, or offspring), and click PLAY. it will make your neighbours quit angry
[05:51] <uniq> 's hard to know how much space to allocate to each part. and it's a waste to have 20G  free on / when /home is full.
[05:51] <VincentMX> s/quit/quite
[05:52] <Chris_Tucker> coreymon77, luck?
[05:52] <Chris_Tucker> i guess not
[05:53] <coreymon77> umm
[05:53] <coreymon77> i didnt see the nvidia logo
[05:53] <bob_in_florence> Thks. so i'll keep one partition, and tell you if i'm happy with it!
[05:54] <coreymon77> although it seems to be working fine
[05:55] <VincentMX> ok
[05:55] <VincentMX> :)
[05:55] <coreymon77> thankis
[05:55] <VincentMX> np
[05:55] <coreymon77> ! vincentsnack
[05:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, coreymon77
[05:55] <coreymon77> lol :)
[05:57] <VincentMX> haha
[05:57] <iNiku> hmm. is it possible to shrink a mounted ext2/3 filesystem?
[06:00] <uniq> iniku: yes, with resize2fs.
[06:00] <uniq> iniku: or.. mounted.. notsure.
[06:02] <slow-motion> bbl
[06:02] <iNiku> uniq: resize2fs only does unmounted, unfortunately
[06:02] <iNiku> uniq: as far as I know, anyway
[06:03] <VincentMX> iNiku: put it on a livecd
[06:03] <VincentMX> reboot
[06:04] <VincentMX> do it from there
[06:04] <VincentMX> veni vidi vici
[06:04] <uniq> iniku: with -f too?
[06:05] <uniq> iniku: it is probably very dangerous if it works though.
[06:05] <VincentMX> uniq: -f s in force?
[06:06] <VincentMX> it will rpobably ruin all yo shit
[06:06] <VincentMX> this will break
[06:06] <VincentMX> things will break
[06:06] <VincentMX> as i said, make a livecd
[06:08] <Chris_Tucker> no need to even make a livecd
[06:08] <Chris_Tucker> just get one and install the program in live mode
[06:09] <piphoe`> i want to make my own custom unattended livecd... how do i do that ??
[06:10] <visik7> partition was: in phisical order hda2 hda3 hda1 (that is perfectly LEGAL!) and after create an hda5 it reorder hda1 hda2 hda3 and windows and freebsd was unable to boot!!!
[06:15] <bob_in_florence> it's 10 minutes that the installer remains "scanning the mirror" at 1%.. but i double-checked the install cd
[06:16] <uniq> iniku: ext2resize can grow mounted partitions, not shrink though.
[06:18] <soon> Hi there folks ...
[06:19] <soon> I'm partitioning my laptop HD for a new Kubuntu install ... Do I need a seperate /boot partition?
[06:20] <uniq> soon: no, you only need / and swap.
[06:20] <soon> thanks !
[06:21] <Smooph> a /boot is only a good idea if u have multiple systems on your laptop
[06:21] <soon> which I dont :-)
[06:22] <[Surge] > Having a separate partition for /home is a nice thing to have. It allows you to format and reinstall a distro or other distros without losing user data.
[06:22] <Smooph> yes thats true
[06:22] <soon> I'll just let the installer erase my entire disk a format it as 'default'
[06:22] <soon> (seems to  be som LVM stuff) ...
[06:22] <Smooph> having a laptop with 80gb split it to 20gb / and 60gb /home
[06:23] <[Surge] > I gave / 5GB and the rest went to /home
[06:24] <Smooph> 5GB wasn't enough for me
[06:24] <[Surge] > Really?
[06:24] <Smooph> i would sugest at least 10
[06:24] <[Surge] > You must have installed a lot of crap. :)
[06:24] <soon> I see your point Smoop, and have had seperate /home partions before - however I'm now into the habit of regularly tar.gz backup'ing my entire /home to an external harddrive, so I can always just copy back after a new install ---
[06:25] <mindspit> hallo all! how can i fix skype so that it uses the microphone ?
[06:25] <soon> btw - I tried ubuntu 3-4 months ago - it wouldnt install at all on my laptop (wouldnt boot - some ACPI stuff I suspected), but the 6.06 kubuntu runs like a dream :-)
[06:25] <[Surge] > mindspit: Plug in a microphone?  :P
[06:26] <mindspit> i use 6.06
[06:26] <soon> Check KMix
[06:26] <mindspit> i have a head set connected
[06:26] <jaro> Hello Hello
[06:26] <soon> hallo
[06:26] <JavaByte> hey :)
[06:26] <jaro> I need some help with my TV Tuner
[06:26] <[Surge] > mindspit: check in kmix that you have the capture device set to mic (often there is also a mic boost setting)
[06:26] <soon> careful ... dont mention your TV tuner, or Denmarks Radio will send you a bill .... !
[06:27] <jaro> It works fine , as long as I boot the system... but once, I unplugged it .. it won't be detected again when I plug it back
[06:27] <iNiku> uniq: yeah, ext2resize can only grow a live fs :/
[06:27] <uniq> iniku: and you need to shrink?
[06:27] <iNiku> VincentMX: booting from a cd is such a pain, doing it on the fly would be so much cooler :)
[06:27] <[Surge] > I need a shrink too
[06:27] <iNiku> uniq: yep
[06:27] <iNiku> oh well
[06:27] <jaro> This worked fine some time before, but that was when the tuner itself didnt work... lol
[06:27] <iNiku> I was just hoping things might have changed in the past couple of years
[06:27] <soon> Denmarks Radio have actually managed to get it through parliment, that anyone (!) with a TV, TV-tuner, Generation 3 mobile phone or an internet connection has to pay a licensing fee to them ... !
[06:28] <jaro> i dont know what is wrong.. i hear about hotplug, but there is no package available
[06:28] <soon> ...anyone in Denmark that is ...
[06:28] <[Surge] > soon: Sounds like the royalities on blank CD and DVD media  >:(
[06:28] <Iam8up> isn't there a live cd of 6.06
[06:28] <soon> Yeah, except this is even worse
[06:28] <[Surge] > s/royalities/royalties
[06:28] <mindspit> the problem is that skype seeting for devices defaults to /dev/dsp
[06:29] <soon> arguable, homeless hobbos (with an older mobile phone), doenst have to pay ,,, but everybody else does
[06:29] <uniq> jaro: you don't want hotplug.
[06:29] <jaro> ok
[06:29] <jaro> so what do i want ?
[06:29] <mindspit> and when tryin to call it says "error with your sound device"
[06:29] <[Surge] > mindspit: Yes Skype uses OSS - you need to use ALSA OSS emulation (which is default)
[06:29] <jaro> dmesg doesnt give a damn
[06:30] <jaro> if i plug the device in or not
[06:30] <uniq> jaro: what do you need? udev has taken hotplugs job in ubuntu.
[06:30] <[Surge] > mindspit: Have you tried switching of the sound server?
[06:30] <soon> I'm gonna go play some ball with my son ... be back later
[06:30] <mindspit> no
[06:30] <mindspit> how can i do it ?
[06:30] <uniq> jaro: what device?
[06:30] <jaro> hmm the problem is that the device wont be detected ( the green light won't go on) when I plug the USB Stick back in
[06:30] <jaro> TV Card
[06:30] <jaro> USB 2.0
[06:30] <uniq> soon: please disable the public away message in this channel. thanks.
[06:31] <[Surge] > mindspit: settings:/Sound/
[06:31] <jaro> I finally got the tv-card working itself, but only after a complete reboot
[06:31] <jaro> once I plug it off.. it wont get back anymore after a plug in
[06:31] <[Surge] > mindspit: Then "Sound System"
[06:32] <[Surge] > mindspit: In konqueror - you can do it via the KDE menu too
[06:33] <jaro> uniq:  any idea ?
[06:33] <mindspit> the "network sound " option is it of interest ?
[06:34] <[Surge] > mindspit: Nope
[06:34] <[Surge] > mindspit: The problem with sound servers is that they normally grab the sound device and lock it so that no other apps can use it unless they are sound server compatible. Most cheap sound cards only have one playback device.
[06:34] <[Surge] > Skype doesn't know how to use a sound server
[06:35] <[Surge] > It's the bain of the Linux desktop - no standard way to handle sound.
[06:35] <iNiku> alsa is getting there.
[06:35] <iNiku> with automatic hw/sw mixing and all...
[06:36] <jaro> :(
[06:36] <[Surge] > Yes but it still doesn't handle multiple apps sharing the same device automatically like Windows XP.
[06:36] <iNiku> [Surge] : it does
[06:36] <jaro> anyone else who might know what do with USB reconnection ?
[06:36] <iNiku> that's what the mixing is about
[06:36] <[Surge] > No it doesn't - dmix is not enabled by default.
[06:36] <iNiku> [Surge] : new alsa should automatically enable dmix if the hardware doesn't do hardware mixing, shouldn't it?
[06:37] <[Surge] > iNiku: I don;t know  - I'm still using Breezy. :)
[06:38] <jaro> can anyone help?
[06:38] <Iam8up> on the kubuntu installer - does the installer ask me which partitions to make/use for itself?
[06:38] <jaro> i cant find anything on google or stuff
[06:38] <iNiku> [Surge] : I have automatic mixing on my dapper laptop but I'm not entirely sure whether it's hw mixing or automatic dmix
[06:38] <iNiku> [Surge] : however, it works without any alsa configuration... the only problem is that it doesn't handle OSS apps without the use of aoss
[06:38] <GullyFoyle> what's the cmd to show waht version of an app will be installed by apt-get? i seem to remember it has 'show' in it or sumthin
[06:39] <[Surge] > iNiku: Yeah that's a pain. Skype is one such app.
[06:39] <[Surge] > OSS must die!
[06:39] <mindspit> i used skype with my wine installation and it works!
[06:39] <mindspit> :(
[06:39] <iNiku> [Surge] : indeed. and AFAIK skype won't even work with aoss
[06:39] <Iam8up> mindspit - neat =)
[06:40] <GullyFoyle> apt-cache show? grr i guess i gotta wade thru the manpage
[06:40] <[Surge] > mindspit: Skype works perfectly here once I disabled the sound servers.
[06:40] <mindspit> i do not believe that! so dissapointing ... its very very slow !
[06:41] <uniq> jaro: sorry, had to get the kid to bed.
[06:41] <mindspit> how can i dissable all sound servers?
[06:41] <iNiku> [Surge] : but it will block the sound device while it's running
[06:41] <JavaByte> !mp3
[06:41] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:42] <uniq> gullyfoyle: apt-cache policy package, or apt-cache madison package
[06:42] <[Surge] > mindspit: Did you open "settings:/Sound/" in konqueror?
[06:43] <jaro> uniq:  ah ok..
[06:43] <jaro> uniq:  can we figure it out now ?
[06:44] <[Surge] > mindspit: Open "Sound Servers" in settings:/Sound/  and then uncheck the "Enable the sound system" checkbox.
[06:44] <uniq> jaro: can you open a konsole and paste the output of "lsmod" to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com please.
[06:44] <mindspit> yes ... it is there .... skype is working thta way
[06:44] <jaro> ok
[06:44] <bogo> how do I change the system's default keyboard layout? I mean, not just for X, but the whole thing
[06:45] <uniq> jaro: you can also plug in and out some usb-keys or disks and then paste the output of 'dmesg' to the same address.
[06:45] <[Surge] > mindspit: If you want to run Skype at the same time as other sound apps you'll have to look at dmix in ALSA. It's software sound mixing.
[06:45] <jaro> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715010
[06:46] <iNiku> [Surge] : it won't help though, since skype uses OSS and dmix doesn't work with that.
[06:46] <jaro> uh oh
[06:46] <jaro> mouse not working anymore.. lol
[06:46] <iNiku> [Surge] : or if it does, please tell me how :)
[06:46] <ryanakca> ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" What do I do?
[06:46] <uniq> bogo: you have already done it for X i figure? - 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-data' for console.
[06:46] <[Surge] > iNiku: Oh :(
[06:47] <iNiku> [Surge] : skype can be tricked into using alsa by running it via aoss, but AFAIK that will break skype. works with many other OSS apps, though
[06:47] <uniq> ryanakca: try your own username/password. not cups.
[06:47] <[Surge] > mindspit: Well there's your answer - Skype's sound interface sucks. :)
[06:47] <[Surge] > As do all OSS reliant apps ...
[06:48] <uniq> jaro: ok, output of lsmod looks good, you have the correct usb-modules loaded.
[06:48] <bogo> uniq: no I haven't, I want to change it globaly
[06:48] <jaro> ok
[06:48] <jaro> dmesg coming
[06:48] <mindspit> ok guys thanks ! thank you vey much! here in greece it is a beatifull  day! :)
[06:48] <ryanakca> uniq: nope
[06:49] <uniq> bogo: you can't, you'll have to change it once for console, and  once for X.
[06:49] <jaro> uniq: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715019
[06:49] <bogo> uniq: and how do I change it for X and not only KDE?
[06:49] <jaro> uniq:  mouse plugoff only resulted in mouse not working but still alight
[06:49] <uniq> [surge] : can't you use the snd-pcm-oss module?
[06:50] <mindspit> how can i send private messages like you do to me ?
[06:50] <mindspit> from konversation
[06:50] <jaro> uniq:  and wont be registered by dmesg
[06:50] <mindspit> i have another question comming
[06:51] <GullyFoyle> if i just use plain old apt-get install 'pkg' will it automatically upgrade to a newer version or do i need a different flag or cmd or something?
[06:51] <jaro> mindspit:  doubleclick on user in list
[06:51] <bogo> mindspit: right-click on the person and select 'Open Query'
[06:51] <mindspit> i have a Qcam usb pc camera "#lsusb" returns "Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:612f Microdia"
[06:51] <iNiku> [Surge] : just tried it, get no sound at all from skype using aoss.
[06:52] <bogo> mindspit: or you can just type '/msg nickname message'
[06:52] <iNiku> uniq: OSS apps cannot be dmixed, that's the issue
[06:52] <mindspit> no not private messages .... just here for example i see something like  "[19:51]  <jaro> mindspit:  doubleclick on user in list"!
[06:52] <iNiku> uniq: they will hog the audio device
[06:53] <bogo> does anyone know how to configure the keyboard layout for X? I've noticed that the settings panel only deals with KDE
[06:53] <iNiku> uniq: if you trick them into using alsa by running them via aoss, dmix works... but skype doesn't work with aoss.
[06:53] <uniq> bogo: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in you favourite text editor, as root (with sudo in front of the command) Find the keyboard section, and change XkbLayout to the two letter code of your layout. :)
[06:53] <bogo> uniq: and where do I get a list of these abreviations?
[06:54] <uniq> iniku: ah, i wasn't aware of that. :)
[06:55] <jaro> uniq:  got the dmesg ?
[06:56] <jaro> mindspit:  type the beginning of nick and press TAB.. then type the normal message, it will be highlighted
[06:56] <uniq> jaro: got it, reading now.
[06:58] <uniq> bogo: list? well you can open /usr/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86, that's a list of layouts. but it's not a reader friendly list. And don't change the file, read it without sudo privileges.
[07:01] <oomph> im trying to configure WPA on my wifi nic, this is my first kubuntu install
[07:01] <Healot> your hardware oomph?
[07:01] <Healot> !hardware
[07:01] <ubotu> hmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:01] <oomph> the wifi assistant doesnt have the option
[07:01] <uniq> oomph: install 'knetworkmanager' from the repositories, it's very good.
[07:01] <oomph> im using an IBM thinkpad
[07:01] <Healot> model?
[07:01] <oomph> t40
[07:02] <mackyman> Hello! Is there any possability to format and install Kubuntu without a CD-burner?
[07:02] <uniq> mackyman: what os are you currently running?
[07:02] <mackyman> ubuntu
[07:03] <raphink> mackyman: then you don't have to install it
[07:03] <raphink> unless you want to install it on another machine
[07:03] <uniq> jaro: I don't know what could cause your prolem. But it seems something is crashing on you. I'm not sure why. Don't think i can help you :/
[07:03] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM << what's the wifi nic btw?
[07:03] <mindspit> /msg jaro qcam
[07:03] <mackyman> But I want to format at the same time
[07:03] <mindspit> /msg jaro qcam: Not installed SUID or run as root.  Exiting.
[07:03] <mindspit> /msg jaro mindspit@BeingHuman$sudo qcam
[07:03] <mindspit> /msg jaro Password:
[07:03] <mindspit> /msg jaro Qcam not found
[07:03] <mindspit> /msg jaro Cannot open QuickCam; exiting.
[07:03] <Healot> @ oomph
[07:03] <jonatan> lol
[07:03] <oomph> im not sure what the nic is
[07:03] <oomph> i need to check it quickly
[07:04] <oomph> the OS seems to run great aside from my wifi not working
[07:04] <jaro> uniq:  too bad
[07:04] <jaro> uniq:  any idea where i could look for ?
[07:05] <oomph> installing knetworkmanager atm
[07:05] <uniq> jaro: hmm..
[07:05] <mackyman> raphink: Shuld I just reinstall my ubuntu and the add the kubuntu-desktop, kde and kde-core packages?
[07:05] <Healot> lspci >> type in this is the terminal, paste the output to pastebin.com , not to this channel or pm
[07:05] <mackyman> to have a fresh install?
[07:05] <raphink> kubuntu-desktop is enouogh
[07:05] <raphink> fresh install is nicer
[07:05] <gawa> hi all, i have a little problem with kdesu ... he don't find the su program ... it's anoying cause i set in bashrc and bash_profile the corrects paths (include /bin) ....
[07:06] <gawa> i searched on google but nobody know how to resolve the problem ...
[07:06] <jaro> ok ill be off
[07:06] <jaro> have to take care of the problem again later
[07:07] <uniq> jaro, can you take a look at the dmesg?
[07:07] <uniq> ah.. he just left. well.
[07:08] <gawa> nobody know how to use kdesu when he don't find su plz ? :-/
[07:08] <uniq> gawa: what did you change to break it?
[07:08] <gawa> i deleted sudo
[07:09] <uniq> gawa: why?
[07:09] <gawa> (uninstalled him with apt-get, not a rm sudo :p)
[07:09] <uniq> gawa: that's why kdesu doesn't work, it needs sudo.
[07:09] <uniq> gawa: nice one, you just found a missing dependency :)
[07:09] <uniq> gawa: if you reinstall sudo it'll work.
[07:09] <gawa> yes, so i want to configure it to use SU and not sudo :s
[07:10] <uniq> hmm.. don't know if that is possible. hang on.
[07:10] <gawa> but i don't need sudo, i prefere un good su root !
[07:11] <jonatan> uhm, does anyone know if it is "as intended" that there isn't any restricted-linux-modules for kernel 2.6.15-25 yet ?
[07:11] <gawa> it's like my user is root :s i don't like it ...
[07:11] <Tommy2k4> !sudo
[07:11] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <jonatan> Reason I ask is that aptitude decided to upgrade from 2.6.15-23 which sort of broke my nvidia driver, and it doesn't seem to be packaged for 2.6.15-25 yet
[07:12] <uniq> gawa: i understand.
[07:13] <gawa> so with sudo, why does the root account exist ??? i prefere to log in root and edit all my .conf files ! it's long to type "sudo cd, sudo vim ..., sudo TEST, sudo re-vim ....
[07:13] <uniq> gawa: should be able to configure. hang on a little more.
[07:15] <sgorwood> hello.  Can anyone tell me if kubuntu 6.06 supports suspend to ram out of the box?  I can't find it in any of the menu's.
[07:16] <gawa> tsss so i'll forced to use sudo ... <_< I though i could install a debian and desinstall  sudo ...
[07:16] <byen> hey guys! Im having major stability issues with kubuntu and FF
[07:16] <raphink> why do you need FF?
[07:16] <raphink> gawa: sudo is great
[07:17] <raphink> gawa: once you begin to use sudo and discover what it allows you to do, you don't want to switch back to su, trust me
[07:18] <gawa> it seems to me sudo is unsecure ...
[07:18] <gawa> just a sudo and the simple-user's password ...
[07:19] <geneo93> only the first user
[07:19] <raphink> that's not insecure
[07:19] <macd> the user has to be belong to the sudoers/admin group
[07:19] <byen> ok here goes... when ever i click any link on the FF browser...Kubuntu hangs and I have to shutoff by pressing the power button....aka WIndows style
[07:19] <jimmy__> thanks for the advice, knetworkmanager resolved my problem
[07:19] <raphink> unless your user's password is less secure than your root one
[07:19] <raphink> gawa: furthermore, sudo is not straight super-cow powers
[07:19] <macd> you shouldnt have a root password in a sudo enviornment.
[07:19] <raphink> you can give special rights to special people for special actions with it
[07:19] <gawa> just a firefox not up to date, and a simple web-page can do anything in u'r system (if u record the passwords in memory)
[07:19] <raphink> its much more convenient than su for that
[07:20] <raphink> you can allow certain people to achieve only certain root tasks on certain hosts
[07:20] <raphink> using their password
[07:20] <jonatan> gawa, there are endless debates about wether sudo or su is more secure, but tbh its no fucking difference. You are still typing your password into a console on your user account.
[07:21] <jonatan> If you are worried about security you ought to have a separate account for administrating tasks
[07:21] <raphink> gawa: sudo is no less secure than su, that's for sure
 you shouldnt have a root password in a sudo enviornment. --< why ? :s
[07:21] <macd> think for a second.
[07:21] <macd> you dont need to be root.
[07:21] <jimmy__> what does sudo -i do?
[07:21] <raphink> gawa: otherwise, you can activate the root account, which is as easy as "sudo passwd" but it's really not worth it
[07:21] <raphink> && unsecure
[07:21] <jonatan> gawa, if your user account gets corrupted you might have a keylogger runing, hence neither sudo or su is secure in that respect
[07:21] <raphink> since you add another account with all rights on the system
[07:22] <raphink> jimmy__: logs you as root ;)
[07:22] <gawa> k but if i want ... i can ! no conflicts, no problem, until i "should use sudo"
[07:22] <raphink> gawa: you should not, it's up to you
[07:22] <jonatan> gawa, meh, if you want a root password you can use sudo to set it , then you can use su afterwards
[07:22] <jimmy__> ahh
[07:23] <raphink> gawa: the graphical apps will still ask your own password though
[07:23] <raphink> cause we patched them to use sudo instead of su by default
[07:23] <jonatan> its a bad idea to run as root when you don't need to anyway
[07:23] <gawa> but it's verry boring to edit a .conf (examples : apche, samba, xorg ...) test the daemon and re-type the user password ...
[07:23] <jonatan> in case something cocks up the damage it can do is much more severe
[07:23] <raphink> gawa: ?
[07:24] <raphink> gawa: please read "man sudo" and come back when you know what you can do with it
[07:24] <jonatan> gawa, you only need to type the passwrod first time you use sudo
[07:24] <raphink> I don't like to do that
[07:24] <raphink> but really
[07:24] <Healot> you can edit sudoers for you not to enter password at all
[07:24] <raphink> sudo does more things than su, including what su does
[07:24] <geneo93> well it last about 10 minutes
[07:25] <Healot> if you feel that entering password is a boring task
[07:25] <gawa> jonatan ==> and anybody can type "sudo anything he wants to do" ...
[07:25] <macd> gawa: no thats not how it works.
[07:25] <jonatan> gawa, use sudo -k to kill it prematurely
[07:25] <jonatan> gawa, after you type sudo it will not ask you for a password for 10 min or so
[07:25] <raphink> gawa: you can set that if you want
[07:25] <macd> in kx/ubuntu only users in the admin group can utilize sudo.
[07:25] <jonatan> ^^ what he said
[07:26] <raphink> macd: by default that is
[07:26] <visik7> does nvidia and hibernate works  ?
[07:26] <raphink> gawa: man sudoers
[07:26] <jonatan> look if it really bothers you so damn much, just do sudo passwd and set a root password ...
[07:26] <gawa> what is sudo doing that su DON't do ?
[07:26] <raphink>  /etc/sudoers is a very nice conffile
[07:26] <uniq> gawa: please excuse these sudo-fanatics. I agree that kdesu should support both su and sudo, and removing sudo shouldn't break your system. I'm working on figuring out how to do it, just hang on a bit.
[07:26] <macd> in making the point not everyone can sudo.
[07:26] <raphink> gawa: man sudoers
[07:26] <raphink> this is what sudo does that su doesn't do
[07:27] <Chris_Tucker> if you edit /etc/sudoers you can add a sudo-er without having them in the admin group
[07:27] <raphink> gawa: e.g. : I want user toto to be able to lauch apt-get as root without entering a password, but nothing else
[07:27] <uniq> jonatan: please observ your language, no need to be over excited because you like sudo and others don't.
[07:27] <raphink> gawa: sudo can do that, in 1 liiine of conf
[07:27] <jonatan> k, sorry , guess it was uncalled for
[07:28] <gawa> uniq --> yeah don't care, i'll find the kdesu sources and look at them, just for see if i can ... (i'm not a hard programmer :p) but i thin i can test sudo ...
[07:28] <byen> does anyone here have Kubuntu crash while opening links in Firefix?
[07:28] <soon> try firefox instead :-) lol
[07:28] <uniq> raphink: what if you don't want any user to be able to do anything as root without having the root password? :)
[07:28] <raphink> gawa: you want to remove the sudo patch from kdesu ?
[07:28] <Chris_Tucker> im still trying to get kubuntu to send its links to firefox >.<
[07:28] <raphink> uniq: then  you just set sudo to do so :;)
[07:28] <macd> Chris_Tucker: kcontrol.
[07:28] <VincentMX> why can't i burn mp3 files in k3b?
[07:29] <Chris_Tucker> macd, dont you think ive been trying that?
[07:29] <macd> Obviously I have no clue what youve tried since you havent said yet.
[07:31] <Chris_Tucker> ok then ive tried x-www-browser reconfigurer, kcontrol -> kde components -> web browswer -> "firefox" and "firefox %s"
[07:31] <VincentMX> how do i open mp3 files?
[07:31] <Chris_Tucker> !mp3
[07:31] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:31] <macd> Chris_Tucker: I have the same setting in kubuntu-breezy kd3.5.2, works fine.
[07:33] <VincentMX> !mp3
[07:33] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <Chris_Tucker> macd, which one
[07:33] <jonatan> Chris_Tucker: what happens when youd o that, does it open it in konqueror still or does it just crash ?
[07:33] <macd> firefox %s
[07:34] <Chris_Tucker> jonatan, it does nothing
[07:34] <Chris_Tucker> the link goes nowhere
[07:34] <macd> is your firefox bin in your path?
[07:34] <Chris_Tucker> its in /usr/bin
[07:34] <jimmy__> whats the apt-get for the kernel source?
[07:35] <macd> jimmy__: that would depend on your instaled kernel, use apt-cache search to find yours.
[07:35] <Chris_Tucker> i dont know what you mean by "my path"
[07:35] <macd> Chris_Tucker: if its in /usr/bin thats good enough.
[07:35] <Chris_Tucker> macd, well its not working
[07:36] <macd> sounds like yu should submit a bug report.
[07:36] <jonatan> Chris_Tucker: have you tried just runing firefox %s from the command line, does that start firefox ?
[07:36] <Chris_Tucker> macd, its a bug specific to this machine.
[07:36] <Chris_Tucker> custom install of firefox.
[07:36] <Tommy2k4> is there a way to make it so the windows key opens the k-menu like it would the start button in windows
[07:36] <jimmy__> how do i check which kernel im using?
[07:36] <macd> firefox %s wouldnt run anything, %s is a way of carrying the url from one part of kde to the firefox launch
[07:37] <Chris_Tucker> macd, i know that.
[07:37] <byen> can anyone tell me why Firefox crashes everytime i click a link on kde?
[07:37] <macd> I was referring to jonatan
[07:37] <Celeste> hi
[07:37] <macd> jimmy__: at konsole type uname -a
[07:37] <jonatan> macd: oh, right
[07:37] <Chris_Tucker> macd, im saying im not using the firefox from apt-get ... im using a custom install. in a command terminal i can type "firefox http://google.com/linux" and firefox will open a new tab with that url, but kde will not do the same
[07:37] <macd> or 'sudo apt-cache search kernel-source
[07:38] <jimmy__> got it thanks
[07:38] <macd> Chris_Tucker: I understood you the first time, It doesnt matter what firefox your using, as long as its in the path.
[07:40] <macd> try copying yur firefox binary into /bin and try again.
[07:40] <Chris_Tucker> macd, no, wait, its working for a link on my desktop now...
[07:40] <Chris_Tucker> without doing that
[07:41] <Chris_Tucker> its just applications that dont want to work... xchat/gaim/etc
[07:42] <macd> xchat has a setting for what browser to use.
[07:42] <macd> Im not sure about gaim, as I dont use it
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i check [what parameters i need to check]  a dvdwriter supported by kubuntu?
[07:47] <jimmy__> what is the command to install a .deb file you download?
[07:47] <jimmy__> for example im trying to install skype
[07:49] <geneo93> !skype
[07:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:49] <jimmy__> thank yo
[07:49] <geneo93> yw
[07:51] <Healot> dpkg -i <.deb> jimmy__
[07:52] <jimmy__> ahh ok
[07:52] <jimmy__> thanks healot
[07:52] <Healot> do you understand the syntax?
[07:52] <jimmy__> yes i do
[07:52] <Healot> oh
[07:52] <Healot> sudo dpkg ...
[07:52] <jimmy__> yup
[07:52] <Healot> sudo first, that's super
[07:52] <jimmy__> correct
[08:00] <slow-motion> re
[08:01] <uniq> gawa: still here?
[08:03] <linuxmonkey> can someone help me with my printer, i get http://pastebin.ca/66605 when ever I try to add it
[08:04] <ryanakca> ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" I tried my username & pass (yes, I'm in the lpadmin group), same thing. What do I do?
[08:05] <uniq> gawa: found the solution you want. put '[super-user-command]  \n super-user-command=su' into ~/.kde/share/config/kdesurc  \n = new line. Now kdesu uses su instead of sudo. This will be a user specific change. To make this global put the file in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/
[08:06] <elknof3> hey, hi everybody...
[08:07] <elknof3> im having issues while burning a .iso
[08:07] <elknof3> whit k3b
[08:07] <Healot> I don't know the reason why a person would remove sudo?
[08:07] <elknof3> im using dapper
[08:08] <slow-motion> uniq http://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/printer-configuration.html < thats the way they explain it for xubuntu. i think it will be the same for kubuntu
[08:08] <ryanakca> elknof3: what's the error?
[08:08] <slow-motion> except the user manager program
[08:08] <elknof3> rynakca, how can i show you the error without pasting it here??
[08:09] <ryanakca> !pastebin
[08:09] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[08:10] <uniq> slow-motion: easiest way to add a user to a group is actually the command line: 'sudo adduser user group'
[08:10] <slow-motion> dont know. it was not in the xubuntu manual
[08:11] <elknof3> ryanacka, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15874
[08:11] <h3sp4wn_> The easiest way to add multiple users to multiple groups i think is sudo vigr
[08:12] <h3sp4wn_> (or adding a new user to alot of groups - not from a script though)
[08:12] <zmoukie> 
[08:12] <ryanakca> elknof3: sudo cdrecord -scanbus
[08:12] <linuxmonkey> woot woot I fixed my own printing problem :)
[08:13] <elknof3> ryanacka, i've already done that
[08:13] <zmoukie> preved
[08:13] <uniq> healot: sudo vs. su is a matter of taste and what you feel is right. Some users prefer su, others sudo. That's just the way it is. :)
[08:13] <ryanakca> output?
[08:13] <ryanakca> hmmm... If I have a lot of commands to run, su, if it's just 1 or 2, sudo
[08:14] <Healot> i prefer a more secure root access
[08:14] <axier> loco
[08:14] <Healot> they say "sudo"
[08:14] <uniq> ryanakca: sudo can also give you a shell like su. with the -i option.
[08:14] <ryanakca> yeah
[08:14] <elknof3> ryanacka, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15875
[08:15] <Healot> security will make you feel a bit uncomfortable... but worth it
[08:15] <ryanakca> Healot: you get used to it after a while
[08:15] <Leqtic> Hi guys :D
[08:15] <Healot> more then a WHILE :)
[08:15] <Leqtic> Where can you get new themes for Kubuntu :D
[08:16] <pichi> hello to all
[08:16] <uniq> leqtic: http://kde-look.org
[08:16] <Leqtic> uniq:  saving me again :D
[08:17] <Child4Christ> how do i deal with .rar archives?
[08:17] <Healot> !info unrar
[08:17] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[08:17] <Healot> !info unrar-free
[08:17] <ubotu> unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[08:17] <Leqtic> uniq:  how do u install :D ?
[08:18] <Child4Christ> thx
[08:18] <ryanakca> elknof3: sorry, no clue... I had a simmilar error... and I had selected TAO burn method... instead of the others... which I could help you more... umm... you checked google for simmilar errors?
[08:18] <Leqtic> .kda
[08:18] <Leqtic> is that?
[08:18] <Leqtic> kth
[08:19] <elknof3> ryanacka, yeah i've been looking for same things but no track of it
[08:19] <lime4x4> which kernel version for a P4 2.6 ghz HT chip?   386 or 686?
[08:19] <Leqtic> .kth double kick on it?
[08:19] <ryanakca> wish... and TAO burn method instead of the other burn methods corrected it.... sorry if I'm not very clear
[08:19] <Child4Christ> worked, cheers =)
[08:19] <Healot> cheers the Canadian way T&P?
[08:19] <elknof3> ryanacka, what is TAO burn method?
[08:19] <Healot> TRack at Once
[08:20] <Healot> meaning one track on each burning session
[08:20] <elknof3> how do you activate that??
[08:20] <uniq> lime4x4: 686.
[08:20] <elknof3> i mean that's in k3b??
[08:20] <Healot> all in k3b options
[08:20] <ryanakca> in writing mode...
[08:20] <elknof3> ok ok
[08:21] <elknof3> thanks a lot
[08:21] <ryanakca> ok, so you go burn cd image, then under "Writing Mode", change auto to TAO. proceed as normal
[08:21] <Leqtic> uniq:  how do u install them? i unzipped it
[08:22] <lime4x4> uniq how would i change that then?? took the update for the new kernel but it's the 386 version i don't know why it didn't detect my cpu properly
[08:22] <elknof3> ryanacka, ok i think its wrking...  thanks
[08:22] <Leqtic> Does anyone here know how to install themes?
[08:22] <ryanakca> :)
[08:22] <uniq> lime4x4: 686 will be the prefered kernel if you install it.
[08:22] <uniq> leqtic: what theme? link?
[08:23] <ryanakca> Leqtic: help us help you, can you give us more information? Themes for what? Downloaded from and to where? File extention?
[08:23] <elknof3> will that work on every type of burning? i mean, to burn mp3's, data, etc?
[08:23] <Tommy2k4> how can i get it so the windows key opens the k-menu
[08:23] <ryanakca> elknof3: should
[08:23] <Leqtic> .kth file extension, downlodade from the webplace uniq gave me
[08:23] <Leqtic> KDE theme :D
[08:23] <elknof3> ryanacka, it didn't work...
[08:24] <ryanakca> ok, go to KControl, Appearance & Themes, Theme Manager, Install new theme
[08:24] <lime4x4> uniq so go thru synaptic and select the 686 kernel
[08:24] <ryanakca> elknof3: drats... same error?
[08:24] <elknof3> yeap
[08:24] <omega> How do I find the numeric permission bit of a file?
[08:25] <ryanakca> ok, try closing k3b, go alt-f2, and type in:     kdesu k3b
[08:25] <uniq> lime4x4: yes.
[08:25] <Leqtic> ryanakca:  thanks
[08:27] <lime4x4> thanks uniq
[08:27] <Leqtic> ryanakca:  You mean SYstem Settings, cant seem to find Appearance & Themes
[08:27] <uniq> omega: 'stat file'
[08:27] <omega> Thank you, uniq
[08:28] <ryanakca> Leqtic: no, KControl.... go alt-f2, kcontrol
[08:29] <Leqtic> ryanakca:  thanks again :D
[08:29] <ryanakca> np
[08:29] <ryanakca> elknof3: working?
[08:30] <uniq> omega: 'stat -c "%a %n \n" file' is also nice.
[08:30] <Tommy2k4> is it possible to make the k-menu open when i press the win key
[08:31] <uniq> tommy2k4: yes, you can try this:
[08:31] <uniq> !kmediakeys
[08:31] <ubotu> from memory, kmediakeys is system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> enable keyboard layouts, and select a keyboard model close to yours in the list.
[08:31] <Child4Christ> what repos in the source list do i need to install another amaroK engine?
[08:32] <elknof3> no
[08:32] <humboldt> does anyone know a app (GUI or WebGUI, OSS or proprietary) for keeping track of IP subnets, and IP devices in them. Something where you would create a master subnet and then can devide it in smaller pieces and keep information to any IP in these subnets, search for the IPs, subnets and info stored to them, ...
[08:32] <paines> good evening
[08:32] <ryanakca> elknof3: error?
[08:32] <uniq> humboldt: something like nagios?
[08:33] <Leqtic> does installing a new theme requiring u to reboot?
[08:33] <humboldt> maybe, don't know it. you tell me.
[08:33] <raphink> Leqtic: whatt kind of theme?
[08:34] <omega> Too big a command for me, uniq. I like to keep things simple.
[08:34] <Tommy2k4> cant find anything in there about the win key uniq
[08:34] <Leqtic> raphink:  for the KDE
[08:34] <humboldt> uniq: however, I primarily am looking for something to keep documentation for these subnets and IPs not to monitor them
[08:34] <Leqtic> just a normal theme :D
[08:34] <raphink> Leqtic: no
[08:34] <elknof3> ok its working
[08:34] <Tommy2k4> its not like the keyboard doesnt pick up the win key, i can use it in other shortcuts, but pressing it on its own doesnt bring up the k-menu
[08:34] <raphink> Leqtic: the only thing that requires to reboot is upgrading a kernel
[08:34] <elknof3> the burn prosses started yet
[08:34] <Child4Christ> random question, anyone here sucessfully set up and ran an OX server on Kubuntu?
[08:34] <raphink> as far as I know
[08:34] <ryanakca> elknof3: what did you do?
[08:34] <uniq> tommy2k4: choose the keyboard you have. ms win natural for example. Then it should work.
[08:35] <elknof3> ryanakca: i did what you tell me
[08:35] <elknof3> and then i started the burning proses
[08:36] <Tommy2k4> well i dont know what keyboard i have but i tried all of the ms ones and none of them worked
[08:36] <uniq> humboldt: then i don't know.
[08:37] <ryanakca> elknof3: ok, is there anybody else who uses your box?
[08:37] <uniq> tommy2k4: what about 105 key?
[08:37] <Tommy2k4> tried it
[08:37] <elknof3> ryanakca: thanks for helping me
[08:37] <lime4x4> uniq is it possible to select the 686 kernel on install??? I have another machine i want to install kubuntu on as well
[08:37] <ryanakca> np
[08:37] <uniq> lime4x4: don't think so.
[08:38] <lime4x4> k thanks
[08:38] <Leqtic> bye all :D
[08:48] <Tommy2k4> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153112 will that work on dapper?
[08:49] <uniq> tommy2k4: yes. should
[08:49] <apokryphos> Tommy2k4: yesa
[08:49] <apokryphos> or yes, even
[08:50] <apokryphos> hi uniq :). How's it going?
[08:50] <uniq> hi apokryphos, all good here. and you? :)
[08:50] <apokryphos> yeah, things are good. Finally a bit of a relaxation period after exams 8)
[08:51] <Tonio_> hey
[08:51] <Tonio_> is someone here using a bluetooth mouse ?
[08:52] <uniq> i use a trackpad, so that's a negative from me.
[08:52] <Child4Christ> exams are fun :D
[08:52] <apokryphos> bluetooth are too expensive still, for me
[08:52] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: nah, means you have to do work. For most of them, anyway.
[08:52] <uniq> i have a bluetooth phone, and headset though.
[08:53] <Child4Christ> can i take the RHCE exams on Kubuntu?
[08:53] <Child4Christ> might be goin for it next year WOOHOO!!! :D
[08:53] <uniq> child4christ: probably not. as RH is RedHat not RubHuntu. :)
[08:54] <Child4Christ> RubHuntu? IDEA!! *toddles off to make another ubuntu derivitive*
[08:55] <Child4Christ> thats an idea actually, splice RHEL4 rpms and add ubuntu to it, is it possible?
[08:56] <Child4Christ> best of both worlds cause a lot of software comes as rpm an no deb :(
[08:58] <slicslak> can i use my gamepad as a mouse?
[09:04] <richard> Is there any similiar program to amarok that will compress and install video's to a ipod?
[09:04] <richard> Not an Ipod but a generic ipod with video capabilities. . .
[09:04] <rohan> seeing that i have the ubuntu desktop cd, can i somehow use it to create teh kubuntu one, without having to download full 650mb kubuntu desktop cd ?
[09:08] <_euclid> hola
[09:09] <euclid_> j
[09:11] <Armagguedes> hello
[09:12] <Armagguedes> what happened to that kde 3.5.? theme in which the top right corner buttons
[09:12] <Armagguedes> where square, and the X button was longer than the others
[09:12] <Armagguedes> i think it duplicated longhorn, but im not sure.
[09:13] <Armagguedes> anyways, i prefered that one to 3.5.3's , but i cant find it in the themes section in kcontrol
[09:21] <ryanakca> I have kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop & xubuntu-desktop installed. How do I set kmenu up so that it shows only KDE/Kubuntu apps? not the xubuntu/ubuntu/XFCE/GNOME ones...
[09:22] <raphink> ryanakca: not sure that is possible
[09:23] <raphink> imo the K menu shows all the apps that have a .desktop file in /usr/share/apps
[09:23] <ryanakca> drats... didn't think so... I was hoping you'd prove me wrong
[09:23] <serenity> i would be possible when u set up group-settings
[09:23] <raphink> sorry
[09:23] <raphink> I mean /usr/share/applications
[09:23] <serenity> but to complicated
[09:23] <raphink> ah
[09:26] <SurfnKid> Hi
[09:27] <SurfnKid> How can I check for errors on hard drives
[09:27] <raphink> hi SurfnKid
[09:27] <raphink> you mean on filesystems?
[09:28] <SurfnKid> yeah
[09:28] <raphink> run fsck
[09:28] <SurfnKid> booted and got error on device hdc I/O logical block 0
[09:29] <raphink> are you sure hdc is a hard drive ?
[09:29] <raphink> isn't it the cdrom/dvdrom?
[09:29] <SurfnKid> mm
[09:29] <SurfnKid> oh
[09:30] <SurfnKid> good point i forgot hda is hdd, hdc is cdrom
[09:30] <SurfnKid> :P
[09:30] <SurfnKid> nevermind then
[09:30] <raphink> hehe
[09:30] <raphink> then check your CD/DVD ;)
[09:30] <SurfnKid> now i remember that it gives errors now and then
[09:30] <Armagguedes> how is responsible for the DejaVu font?
[09:31] <SurfnKid> still wanna check my hdd, is there a utility
[09:31] <Armagguedes> forget it, found it (sourceforge)
[09:32] <raphink> SurfnKid: you can check filesystems using fsck
[09:32] <Armagguedes> how do i check the version of a font i have installed?
[09:33] <SurfnKid> raphink: k
[09:33] <raphink> Armagguedes: dpkg -L
[09:33] <raphink> sorrry -l
[09:33] <raphink> dpkg -l
[09:33] <raphink> will tell you the version of an installed package
[09:33] <SurfnKid> raphink: warns that i shouldnt on mounted systems
[09:33] <raphink> SurfnKid: then unmount it
[09:33] <raphink> ;)
[09:34] <raphink> if it's not your /
[09:34] <raphink> ;)
[09:34] <SurfnKid> oh
[09:34] <SurfnKid> and if it is, will it automatically check all this on bootup?
[09:34] <raphink> if there is a problem with your /, it should be checked at bootup
[09:35] <SurfnKid> ok then forget it
[09:35] <SurfnKid> not worried :)
[09:35] <raphink> otherwise
[09:35] <raphink> you can run
[09:35] <raphink> shutdown -r -F now
[09:35] <SurfnKid> whats that do
[09:35] <raphink> to reboot and force checking hard drives
[09:35] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[09:35] <Armagguedes> raphink ok tks
[09:36] <SurfnKid> thanks brb
[09:39] <serenity> is there a sidebar available for linux?
[09:40] <raphink> a sidebar?
[09:40] <raphink> how do you mean?
[09:40] <serenity> like on vista...got this on my xp
[09:40] <raphink> you mean a sidebar in konqueror with the history and stuff ?
[09:41] <raphink> serenity: sorry I don't use vista so i don't know what you're talkinga bout
[09:41] <serenity> no, a sidebar on my desktop
[09:41] <serenity> mom
[09:41] <raphink> what is that for?
[09:41] <raphink> what does it do?
[09:41] <raphink> you can surely put a bar on the side
[09:41] <raphink> but sidebar stands for no special behaviour/fuctionality for me
[09:41] <serenity> http://www.tgtsoft.com/images/ss/media_album.jpg   somethink like this
[09:41] <raphink> unless you tell me what you want it to do
[09:42] <raphink> ah
[09:42] <raphink> !
[09:42] <ubotu> raphink: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:42] <raphink> a widget
[09:42] <raphink> :)
[09:42] <raphink> ubotu: :p
[09:42] <ubotu> raphink: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:42] <raphink> serenity: with kde you can use superkaramba for such things
[09:43] <raphink> look at superkaramba stuff on kde-look.org
[09:43] <serenity> ok
[09:43] <serenity> thanks
[09:43] <raphink> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38&PHPSESSID=1ac381e18360f1f00da0344ba7d7eedf
[09:43] <raphink> there
[09:43] <raphink> you'll need to install the superkaramba package
[09:46] <xst> When I write in kopete there is an enormous latency on the cursor. If I hold down e.g. the left-key, the curser may continue to struggle slowly to the left several seconds after I have released the button. Any ideas why?
[09:46] <KuLover> Heya, I my motherboard has failed and if I replace it with a different one, will I have problems booting? Is there something I should do to prepair Kubuntu?
[09:47] <xst> In general my desktop seems very much slower after I upgraded from breezy to dapper.
[09:47] <raphink> xst: kde 3.5 is slower than 3.4 imo
[09:48] <uniq> kulover: no, i think kubuntu should figure that out without help.
[09:48] <xst> Any ideas why? Upgrading to a SLOWER version is rarely preferrable. :-(
[09:49] <h3sp4wn_> xst: Try the latest kanotix live cd - kde doesn't have to be slow
[09:50] <h3sp4wn_> xst: I am trying to work out what they do differently to make it run so much quicker
[09:51] <xst> h3sp4wn_: Cool! Cause, I really think the dapper is extreamly slow.
[09:51] <h3sp4wn_> xst: What spec of machine ?
[09:53] <xst> h3sp4wn_: Athlon XP 2000+, 512 MB, Matrox G500. (But as you know, kubuntu was ok fast on breezy)
[09:53] <KuLover> Heya, My motherboard has failed and if I replace it with a different one, will I have problems booting? Is there something I should do to prepair Kubuntu?
[09:54] <uniq> kulover: no, kubuntu will handle it.
[09:54] <h3sp4wn_> xst: I have Athlon XP 2600, 1gb ram - that kubuntu is reasonably quick on (using the real time preempt kernel patch and 2.6.16 - no other patches)
[09:55] <h3sp4wn_> However on my p3 900 laptop with 256mb kubuntu is dog slow but kanotix runs as fast as my desktop does (it seems anyway)
[09:55] <KuLover> Uniq, Coolness thanks a bunch. I worry about one thing though, what about hard drive controller drivers? Will it take care of that too?
[09:57] <DjDarkman> hy ,is running shh anf ftp on my pc insecure?
[09:58] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: ssh: yes, on the default configuration
[09:58] <DjDarkman> kbrooks: and how can I configure it to be secure?
[09:59] <The_Fallen> hi
[09:59] <uniq> kulover: yes. everything should work. if you connect the harddrives in the same order on the same controllers as the old mb.
[09:59] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: people scan for ssh servers and if one is found, they focus ALL their resources on that ssh server
[09:59] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: they guess passwords
[10:00] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: attack that field
[10:00] <KuLover> I'm pretty sure I wil have to reconfigure my fstab though.. no big problem though
[10:00] <The_Fallen> i wanna play MP3s with amarok and the FAQ says I have to install the package libxine-extracodecs... but this one doesn't seem to exist?!
[10:00] <DjDarkman> but if I have a hard password?
[10:00] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: hard password? THIS is not a hard password:
[10:00] <kbrooks> 11111111111111111111111111111111111111
[10:00] <kbrooks> but THIS is:
[10:01] <kbrooks> z2f6k7j5hk75
[10:01] <kbrooks> but thats not memorable
[10:01] <BrigadierFrog> kbrooks: thats not a hard password
[10:01] <BrigadierFrog> kbrooks: %gg!87.$ is
[10:01] <DjDarkman> yeah but AFedgf24fefefEEeeeefef is harder
[10:01] <rothgar_> The_Fallen: did you edit your repositories?
[10:02] <rothgar_> The_Fallen: the package is probably there just not in the repositories there by default
[10:03] <Snake[Away] > DjDarkman: I could crack that in about 4 hours.
[10:03] <Snake[Away] > what BrigadierFrog said would be more difficult
[10:03] <kbrooks> why, Snake[Away] 
[10:03] <Snake[Away] > kbrooks: why is it more difficult?
[10:03] <Snake[Away] > is that what your asking?
[10:03] <kbrooks> no, the former
[10:03] <DjDarkman> so i should use upper lower case chars ,number and special chars
[10:03] <The_Fallen> rothgar_: yeah, i enabled universe and multiverse repositories
[10:04] <kbrooks> <Snake[Away] > DjDarkman: I could crack that in about 4 hours. -> why?
[10:04] <Snake[Away] > kbrooks: Because its a bunch of the same letters in a row
[10:04] <kbrooks> ah
[10:05] <Snake[Away] > kbrooks: how most password scanners work is they will go through the aphebete, then numbers, but say your password is... hiie when it figures out the i, it will try i for the next thing as well
[10:05] <DjDarkman> can you give me an example of a password that will take at least a year to crack?
[10:05] <Snake[Away] > DjDarkman: something from gpg
[10:05] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: a year?
[10:05] <Snake[Away] > Alright I gotta go take a shower, ill bbl
[10:06] <BrigadierFrog> Snake[Away] : I wonder... can you even crack sha1 ? hmmm ? hahaha
[10:06] <DjDarkman> gpg ,as in general password generator?
[10:06] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: GPG as in gnupg
[10:06] <Snake[Away] > kbrooks: DjDarkman: a gpg encrypted password takes generally an upwords around 2-5 years depending on how much encryption it is, and what kind of scanner/attacker the person is using
[10:06] <Snake[Away] > and what kind of machine the attacker is using
[10:06] <kbrooks> DjDarkman: as in "gnu privacy guard"
[10:06] <Snake[Away] > openpgp etc
[10:07] <Snake[Away] > ANYWHO Shower
[10:07] <Snake[Away] > :)
[10:07] <DjDarkman> can you give me a link explaining this gnu privacy guard?
[10:10] <brandon> what's the command to start kde from the command line?
[10:10] <DjDarkman> kde :)
[10:10] <DjDarkman> i think
[10:11] <thoreauputic> startkde
[10:11] <thoreauputic> or  startx $(startkde)
[10:11] <thoreauputic> oops
[10:12] <thoreauputic> startx $(which starkde)
[10:12] <thoreauputic> minus the typo :/
[10:12] <DjDarkman> he`s gone
[10:15] <jme__> q. when i do apt-get and get .deb from the official ubuntu repository, the .deb are authenticated via a cryptographic signrature, correct ?
[10:16] <uniq> jme__: yes, that's correct.
[10:16] <jme__> uniq: you are positively sure ?
[10:16] <jme__> i mean i got people telling me otherwise
[10:16] <jme__> just want to know :)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> jme__: there's gpg key IIRC
[10:17] <thoreauputic> apt checks gpg and md5sum I think
[10:17] <jme__> ok thanks
[10:18] <thoreauputic> jme__: see man apt-key
[10:18] <raphink> yes
[10:20] <jme__> willl look thanks
[10:20] <uniq> jme__: take a look at "man apt-secure" too (alt+f2 "#apt-secure")
[10:22] <armedking> Anyone know what frontend the kicker applet "Public file server" uses in KDE cause i want the same in gnome.
[10:23] <square_head> hello
[10:23] <square_head> How can I disable shift + backspace to dont kill my X ?
[10:24] <Snake> square_head: are you running XGL?
[10:24] <square_head> yes
[10:24] <Snake> Otherwise it shouldnt
[10:24] <square_head> its verry annoying :|
[10:24] <Snake> square_head: hang on, I got a command for it, i gotta go on my other comp and get it
[10:24] <square_head> *very
[10:24] <square_head> ok thank you
[10:25] <uniq> square_head:  put this in your X config... Section "ServerFlags"
[10:25] <uniq> Option "DontZap" EndSection
[10:25] <nico8481> armedking: have a look at "ps -ef" output while it runs
[10:26] <square_head> ok and if something goes wrong
[10:26] <square_head> how do I kill it?
[10:26] <armedking> oke i will, Tnx for your time man
[10:26] <uniq> square_head: let's start all over again, my paste got all messed up.
[10:26] <uniq> square_head: wait
[10:26] <Snake> Dont do that man
[10:26] <oomph_> has anyone installed Vmware version 5.5.1 on Kubuntu?
[10:26] <oomph_> im having issues getting it to run
[10:27] <square_head> oomph_,  I did
[10:27] <oomph_> has anyone got a link or how-to on it?
[10:27] <snikker> what package can i install for use mplayer embeeded in firefox?
[10:27] <uniq> square_head: Section "ServerFlags" \n Option "DontZap" \n EndSection - where \n is new line.
[10:27] <oomph_> the problem im experiencing is Libpng issues
[10:27] <Snake> square_head: just type in "xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
[10:27] <Snake> oops
[10:27] <Snake> no thats right
[10:27] <Armagguedes> how do i install a website root certificate (cacert.crt) in order to use my wifi?
[10:27] <Snake> square_head: that first quote should be there
[10:27] <Snake> shouldnt***
[10:27] <Snake> damn it!
[10:28] <oomph_> square_head did you experience that problem when installing?
[10:28] <Snake> square_head: here, incase you didnt get it: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
[10:28] <Snake> will fix it
[10:28] <square_head> oomph_,  yes, with some librabry, I did a search on ubuntuforums and it was a comand ln -s
[10:28] <nico8481> snikker: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats#head-e25afe1552d3a818f60e64143931b2d8e0522267
[10:28] <square_head> Snake,  then how i will restart my x ?
[10:28] <uniq> snikker: mozilla-mplayer
[10:28] <Snake> square_head: alt+ctrl+backspace? Like normal?
[10:28] <square_head> ok thank u !
[10:29] <square_head> WORKS
[10:29] <square_head> wiiiiii
[10:29] <square_head> *sorry for spam*
[10:29] <oomph_> ok let me try it
[10:29] <Snake> square_head: only thing is, you either A) have to put that in the compiz start up script at the very end, or B) put it in everytime you start the comp
[10:29] <Snake> I chose to put it in my compiz startup script
[10:29] <snikker> nico8481: thanks
[10:29] <uniq> C) add DontZap to X config :)
[10:29] <snikker> uniq: thanks
[10:29] <square_head> ye
[10:30] <DjDarkman> can I configure ssh and ftp to have a password guessing tollerance? for example if someone inputs the wrong password 10 times ,it will block it from retrying for a day or something like that?
[10:31] <uniq> djdarkman: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/250
[10:35] <Tommy2k4> what version of kde comes with kubuntu dapper
[10:35] <uniq> tommy2k4: 3.5.2
[10:35] <square_head> 3.5.3 I think
[10:35] <Hawkwind> 3.5.2 but 3.5.3 was released later that night on June 1st
[10:35] <Hawkwind> So if you update your system, you'll get 3.5.3
[10:36] <uniq> if you add kubuntu.org sources and update you'll get 3.5.3
[10:36] <Tommy2k4> what command can i type to find out what i have
[10:37] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: kde-config --version | grep KDE
[10:37] <nico8481> any idea how to add places to the system menu?
[10:39] <shredder81> how do I get it to allow me to make folders
[10:39] <Hawkwind> shredder81: Huh ?
[10:40] <shredder81> I need to create a folder and copy files to it but it will not let me
[10:40] <oomph_> im having a libpng issue installing vmware still
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> sudo chown yourusername /path/to/folder
[10:41] <Hawkwind> shredder81: mkdir is the command to make a directory, cp -a /old/path /new/path is the command to copy files
[10:41] <square_head> oomph_, hang on I will search
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> (optionallyy sudo chown yourusername:yourgroupname /path/to/folder (username and group name are the same for your default user)
[10:41] <Kmirno> maybe sudo chown -R yourusername /path/to/folder will suit you better
[10:41] <oomph_> thx
[10:41] <Kmirno> the -R for recusiv
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> If its a new folder the recursive shouldn't be needed
[10:42] <square_head> paste the error
[10:43] <oomph_> ok its 4 lines
[10:43] <oomph_> vmware
[10:43] <oomph_> /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[10:43] <oomph_> /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[10:43] <oomph_> /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[10:43] <neko> does anyone know if there's a fix yet for printing under dapper?
[10:44] <uniq> oomph_: please, don't paste in the channel.
[10:44] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[10:44] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[10:44] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, good ole pastebin :)
[10:44] <oomph_> ok
[10:44] <oomph_> my bad
[10:45] <square_head> oomph_,
[10:46] <square_head> oomph_, sudo cp /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/
[10:46] <oomph_> yes
[10:46] <square_head> this worked for me
[10:46] <square_head> tell me if it works.
[10:46] <oomph_> doesnt work
[10:47] <oomph_> just starts and stops
[10:47] <oomph_> no error
[10:47] <square_head> wait I had the same issue
[10:47] <oomph_> ok
[10:48] <_buz> !kopete 0.12
[10:48] <ubotu> _buz: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <_buz> !kopete
[10:48] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[10:49] <square_head> oomph_, did vmware install put a desktop icon ?
[10:49] <oomph_> sec
[10:49] <oomph_> checking
[10:50] <oomph_> no it did not
[10:50] <square_head> re-run vmware-config.pl using sudo, and put all the parameters correctly
[10:50] <square_head> hope it helps
[10:51] <oomph_> ok let me try
[10:52] <neko> does anyone know how to get printing working after updating to dapper?
[10:52] <Snake> !flash
[10:52] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <SurfnKid> is there a player i could use via the command line
[10:53] <SurfnKid> without using GUI
[10:53] <Hawkwind> SurfnKid: mplayer
[10:54] <SurfnKid> Hawkwind: for instance, i dontw ant to use a desktop manager
[10:54] <SurfnKid> i want to do everything on terminal mode
[10:54] <SurfnKid> and have a radio station i want to stream
[10:55] <Hawkwind> mplayer as I stated
[10:55] <SurfnKid> ok
[10:55] <SurfnKid> i got xfmedia but let me install that one
[10:55] <DaSkreech> SurfnKid: Yeah there are players
[10:55] <DaSkreech> It's kind of hard to pull up stuff you can't do on the CLI
[10:56] <DaSkreech> like UT :)
[10:56] <SurfnKid> right
[10:57] <SurfnKid> bah
[10:57] <SurfnKid> i hate routers
[10:57] <SurfnKid> i cant apt-get again
[10:57] <jerry> is ubuntu and kubuntu pretty much the same?
[10:57] <SurfnKid> can i set up a proxy on another laptop and go thru it
[10:57] <oomph> square: im still getting the same error
[10:57] <raphink> jerry: yes
[10:58] <raphink> jerry: it's the same distro, with a different default DE
[10:58] <_buz> jerry: kubuntu uses kde as desktop, other than that yes
[10:58] <Tommy2k4> whats the parameters to untar a gz
[10:58] <jerry> or what's different?
[10:58] <square_head> oomph, it doesnt show ?
[10:58] <raphink> jerry: as _buz said, kubuntu uses KDE by default, ubuntu uses GNOME by default, Xubuntu is XFCE
[10:58] <uniq> tommy2k4: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[10:58] <oomph> nope, same error after full reinstall
[10:58] <square_head> that one with the lib?
[10:58] <jerry> can I run gnome?
[10:58] <Tommy2k4> time to write that down
[10:58] <Tommy2k4> i always forget
[10:59] <raphink> jerry: sur eyou can if you like it ;)
[10:59] <jerry> or is there a command that I can type to launch gnome?
[10:59] <_buz> can someone point me to the kopete 0.12 deb (again)?
[10:59] <raphink> jerry: you have to install gnome
[10:59] <raphink> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <raphink> will install gnome with the ubuntu settings
[10:59] <raphink> whereas sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installs kde with the kubuntu settings
[10:59] <raphink> etc.
[10:59] <jerry> aww it says it can't find it :(
[10:59] <DaSkreech> then you can type gdm at the prompt
[11:00] <raphink> jerry: can't find what?
[11:00] <SurfnKid> i have kubuntu and its lighter than ubuntu
[11:00] <SurfnKid> if you lack memory
[11:00] <raphink> SurfnKid: I doubt so
[11:00] <raphink> if you lack memory and/or power, xubuntu is the lightest of the official DE/WM in ubuntu
[11:01] <SurfnKid> raphink: sorry i meant Xubuntu
[11:01] <SurfnKid> raphink: yes, not kubuntu
[11:01] <raphink> ah ok
[11:01] <SurfnKid> raphink: Kubuntu is heavier i thought
[11:01] <Tommy2k4> uniq, is there a tar parameter to extract it to a folder the name of the tar
[11:01] <raphink> SurfnKid: GNOME and KDE are about the same
[11:01] <SurfnKid> dam those alphabet letters :P
[11:01] <SurfnKid> K, X ,U
[11:01] <DaSkreech> E
[11:01] <raphink> SurfnKid: yeah, alphabet is hard
[11:01] <SurfnKid> oh right Edubuntu
[11:02] <raphink> where did you stop?
[11:02] <raphink> Ebuntu even
[11:02] <raphink> although so far I don't want to see it
[11:02] <SurfnKid> ther'es also MacUbuntu and Whataubuntu
[11:02] <SurfnKid> hehe
[11:02] <raphink> neko: you mean ubuntu server I guess then ;)
[11:02] <DaSkreech> Klu Klux even
[11:02] <andred> _buz: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[11:02] <uniq> tommy2k4: no, make the dir first. and untar in it.
[11:03] <neko> raphink: pretty much ;o)
[11:03] <_buz> andred: thanks
[11:03] <Tommy2k4> k
[11:04] <neko> actually, does anyone know if ubuntu dapper has the same printing problems as kubuntu dapper?
[11:05] <raphink> neko: no
[11:05] <raphink> neko: the problems mostly come from the fact that an svn version of cupsys was used
[11:05] <neko> ack, so much for that plan
[11:05] <raphink> and the people who pushed it are gnome users, so they adjusted gnome to make it work with it
[11:05] <ICXCNIKA> Anyone tried PCLinuxOS? I'm kind of conflicted between it and Kubuntu as far as which OS to start out with.
[11:05] <raphink> but just forgot to tell us that it wouldn't work
[11:06] <raphink> ICXCNIKA: I wouldn't be conflicted if I were you ;)
[11:06] <neko> raphink: are there any fixes around do you know?
[11:06] <uniq> it barely works with gnome too though..
[11:06] <SurfnKid> whats a good proxy ?
[11:06] <raphink> neko: not that I know of
[11:06] <uniq> surfnkid: squid.
[11:06] <SurfnKid> uniq: can you go thru all ports
[11:06] <neko> ack, thanks anyway
[11:06] <raphink> uniq: I quite don't understand why this svn version of cups was kept while final was released
[11:06] <uniq> surfnkid: you can make it do whatever you want.
[11:06] <SurfnKid> uniq: sweet
[11:06] <Snake> !kde
[11:07] <Snake> !kde3.5.3
[11:07] <ubotu> well, kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[11:07] <iNiku> ICXCNIKA: what's the selling point of PCLinuxOS? I've never even heard of it
[11:07] <raphink> iNiku: PClinuxOS is based on Mandriva
[11:07] <iNiku> ICXCNIKA: I would go for a widely known and used distro, easier to get support that way...
[11:07] <ubuntu_> ha
[11:07] <uniq> raphink: me neither, and the hacking to make cups fubar seems to me very unnecessary, as cups is just fine by default. What's wrong with printing in breezy? it works.
[11:07] <raphink> it's a derivative of Mandriva
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> raphink: Just install the final from the debian sid sources
[11:07] <iNiku> raphink: ah, ok
[11:07] <raphink> so it's rpm based to begin with ;)
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> raphrink: apt-get source (don't try installing the binary debs)
[11:08] <raphink> h3sp4wn: I'd say rebuild it first ;)
[11:08] <iNiku> too many distros
[11:08] <ICXCNIKA> Well, apparently it is based off of Mandriva. But it comes with Java, video drivers, and such already built into it.
[11:08] <raphink> h3sp4wn: is it me you're talking to about cups ?
[11:08] <DaSkreech> iNiku: Not enough hard Drive space
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> raphink: I think so but I am not sure (going a little crazy at this moment)
[11:08] <SurfnKid> uniq: proxy cache proxy server, same meaning?
[11:09] <raphink> h3sp4wn: ok
[11:09] <uniq> surfnkid: yes.
[11:09] <SurfnKid> k
[11:09] <Hawkwind> PcLinuxOS is not a derivative of Mandriva.  It's a complete and seperate fork and not something Mandriva has anything to do with
[11:09] <fokus> ave wszystkim
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> uniq: squid-prefetch is still broken in dapper (making the package useless)
[11:09] <Hawkwind> Texstar used to be a Mandrake packager, he left and started PcLinuxOS and use Mandrake as the base
[11:09] <fokus> mam szybklie pytanie gdzie mozna znalezc flash playera w wersji 8
[11:09] <Hawkwind> s/use/used
[11:10] <fokus> sorry
[11:10] <uniq> h3sp4wn: what? is it?
[11:10] <ICXCNIKA> I see. Have you used it before Hawkwind?
[11:10] <Tommy2k4> what packages must i install to be able to configure and make
[11:10] <fokus> this is a bad channel
[11:10] <Hawkwind> ICXCNIKA: Yes.  I also use Mandriva so I know how PcLinuxOS works
[11:10] <fokus> bay
[11:10] <Hawkwind> PcLinuxOS uses apt-get instead of urpmi like Mandriva does
[11:10] <uniq> h3sp4wn: i just upgraded a proxy server for a client friday, from breezy to dapper. hope they don't use prefetching.
[11:12] <raphink> ICXCNIKA: from previous experiences with Mandriva, I woulnd't use a mandriva or mandriva-based distro
[11:12] <raphink> ICXCNIKA: but you can make your own experience ;)
[11:12] <Armagguedes> how do i install a website root certificate (cacert.crt) in order to use my wifi?
[11:13] <iNiku> Armagguedes: huh?
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> uniq: Its a script which prefetches stuff based on what you have been to previously
[11:13] <iNiku> what does a website certificate have to do with wifi?
[11:13] <Hawkwind> raphink: Though I do have to admit I'm switching my main OS from Mandriva to Kubuntu this week :)
[11:13] <raphink> Hawkwind: I expect graphical configuration tools to not bork my config when I have modified it manually
[11:13] <Armagguedes> iNiku in my univ in order to use the WiFi network they require us to install a root certificate
[11:13] <uniq> h3sp4wn: yes, i know, i had it running on a debian proxy at another clients site.
[11:14] <Hawkwind> raphink: Wait!  That's what Mandriva is famous for though.  Is their broken GUI tools
[11:14] <Hawkwind> Heh
[11:14] <raphink> and the mandriva drakes are the most horrible tools I know for this
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> uniq: Its broken in debian though also
[11:14] <raphink> sure Hawkwind
[11:14] <raphink> but a distro with bad admin tools is not a good distro for me
[11:14] <ICXCNIKA> Does anyone know of a good link for the Dapper Drake ISOs? The US links seem to freeze up on me.
[11:14] <Hawkwind> raphink: They just came out with a new one a couple months back.  kiosk, it's a webbased package installer
[11:14] <nnn0> us sucks :D
[11:14] <raphink> ICXCNIKA: just try another one then :)
[11:15] <iNiku> Armagguedes: umm. okay.
[11:15] <Hawkwind> ICXCNIKA: I use the ones in Europe personally and I'm in the US
[11:15] <jpatrick> !tell VICIOuS about sources
[11:15] <raphink> Hawkwind: like CnR ?
[11:15] <Hawkwind> ICXCNIKA: I always good the best speeds with swiss or the norway mirrors
[11:15] <Armagguedes> iNiku at least its what's on the windows vpn page
[11:15] <ICXCNIKA> Yeah. I'm using Estonia's link.
[11:15] <Armagguedes> the dont have a linux guide
[11:15] <Hawkwind> raphink: No not that drastic.  It installs bundles of packages, like it has KDE in one big bundle instead of all seperate rpms
[11:16] <raphink> Hawkwind: what's the point?
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Do you use hostapd at all ?
[11:16] <Hawkwind> raphink: I've asked that a hundred times over.  They say it's to make package installation easier
[11:16] <uniq> h3sp4wn: it just dies,it's not that important with prefetching. But it's nice to know that it doesn't work.
[11:16] <raphink> Hawkwind: haha
[11:16] <raphink> ok
[11:16] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: nope, I have a dedicated wlan router
[11:17] <Hawkwind> raphink: Thing is, if you install Mandriva One from the Live CD, kiosk won't work for you.  They have it so screwed up it's not funny
[11:17] <iNiku> Armagguedes: ah, so it's for a vpn. you'll need a compatible vpn client first, then look into configuring the CA certificate into that
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> uniq: http://pastebin.com/715443 (I got that patch from somewhere which makes at least not die immediately)
[11:18] <iNiku> Armagguedes: sorry, don't have any real help for you, I haven't done much vpn stuff and it depends on what your university is using, anyway
[11:19] <Armagguedes> ok tks anyy
[11:19] <Armagguedes> *anyway*
[11:19] <Armagguedes> at least i made some progress
[11:19] <Armagguedes> now i need a vpn client
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> uniq: I think if something is so broken it should either be removed or at least patched so it semi works
[11:19] <Armagguedes> anyone know of one?
[11:19] <Tommy2k4> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:19] <uniq> h3sp4wn: thanks. I agree completely.
[11:19] <Tommy2k4> how can i fix that
[11:19] <iNiku> Armagguedes: there are several
[11:19] <jpatrick> !xlibs
[11:19] <ubotu> I guess xlibs is needed for cedega and opera.  use the xlibs-dev package
[11:20] <jpatrick> Tommy2k4: that afaik^
[11:20] <iNiku> Armagguedes: the question is, which one or ones will work with whatever your university is using
[11:20] <_buz> Armagguedes: if your uni is using cisco vpn, kvpn ist your friend
[11:20] <iNiku> Armagguedes: openvpn is one. openswan is another.
[11:20] <_buz> that and vpnc
[11:20] <Tommy2k4> k
[11:20] <Armagguedes> how can i find find what vpn my college is using?
[11:20] <TheHighChild> This Help pages
[11:21] <TheHighChild> What school do you go to Armagguedes?
[11:21] <Armagguedes> Instituto Superior Tecnico, in Lisbon, Portugal
[11:22] <TheHighChild> Well, I would have tried searching your Help Pages but I don't read Protugese, sorry
[11:23] <ICXCNIKA> Grrr, these sites freeze like after 14%
[11:23] <ICXCNIKA> Eh, just try another one.
[11:24] <SurfnKid> How can i set the squid settings
[11:25] <Armagguedes> how do i insert a matrix into OOo Writer?
[11:25] <Armagguedes> TheHighChild tks anyway
[11:25] <Armagguedes> i've already searched the Helpdesk
[11:25] <Armagguedes> no luck
[11:26] <flow> #pao
[11:27] <Tommy2k4> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:27] <Tommy2k4> what package name do i need
[11:27] <iNiku> Armagguedes: well, what do they tell you to use on windows?
[11:27] <Bazzi> apt-cache search qt3
[11:27] <Bazzi> :)
[11:28] <square_head> how I can reset KWallet password?
[11:28] <square_head> I don't remember it and its annoying everytime its requesting for password
[11:29] <raphink> I don't remember that
[11:29] <raphink> I'd say remove .kwallet
[11:29] <JavaByte> my monitor (which is plug and play) is detected as 640x480 and hsync 28.0-33.0 and vsync 43-72 when it is in fact a 1280x1024 with hsync 30-70 vsync 50-120, how do i change it
[11:29] <raphink> we might remove kwallet in edgy
[11:29] <raphink> should ask tonio about that btw
[11:30] <square_head> edgy?
[11:30] <square_head> what is edgy :)
[11:30] <erov> just use the wallet
[11:30] <erov> change it from the wallet program
[11:30] <Alien_Freak> hi all
[11:30] <raphink> square_head: edgy is the new version of ubuntu, coming after dapper
[11:31] <Alien_Freak> I downloaded the latest Dapper release for Kubunut, do I need to do anything special do install it on the macbook pro?
[11:31] <square_head> cool
[11:31] <Alien_Freak> or can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:31] <raphink> Alien_Freak: did you look on the wiki?
[11:31] <JavaByte> theres a how to on the forums iirc
[11:31] <raphink> I haven't tried intel mac
[11:31] <raphink> macs
[11:31] <raphink> but I know it's doable
[11:32] <square_head> rrors were encountered while processing:
[11:32] <square_head>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdm_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_i386.deb
[11:32] <square_head> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:32] <Alien_Freak> hmm.. link for the wiki?  i'm a bit new at the [uk] buntu
[11:32] <raphink> Alien_Freak: go on http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <raphink> and search :)
[11:32] <Armagguedes> iNiku what do you mean?
[11:33] <iNiku> Armagguedes: do the windows instructions say to download and use some specific vpn client, or what?
[11:33] <iNiku> that would give a clue as to what kind of a vpn we're talking about
[11:33] <Armagguedes> they just guide us through the "add a new connection" > "...vpn..." > etc under the _Lack of Control  Panel_
[11:33] <Armagguedes> no just the embedded client (?)
[11:33] <mitja> Hi! I mounted OS in another OS and changed all permissions to root 0755. Now it's stuck in init 2. Any suggesstions?
[11:34] <SurfnKid> can someone help me with webmin
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> Alien_Freak: You need elilo (install by debootstrap)
[11:34] <Armagguedes> then they tell us to change a whole lot of options like PEAP and such
[11:34] <oomph_> surf: what ya need?
[11:34] <SurfnKid> I just finished setting it up
[11:34] <oomph_> and?
[11:34] <SurfnKid> says use the same password as you used on the setup
[11:34] <SurfnKid> so ok
[11:34] <SurfnKid> i go to the link:10000
[11:34] <square_head> who locks this ?
[11:34] <square_head> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[11:34] <SurfnKid> whats the username?
[11:34] <SurfnKid> root?
[11:34] <oomph_> try root
[11:34] <SurfnKid> ok
[11:34] <oomph_> i think
[11:34] <SurfnKid> but now
[11:34] <Alien_Freak> hmmm... nothing for intel mac, macbook, macbook pro
[11:35] <ninHer> hi all
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> SurdnKid: If you have not specifically patched it for sudo then it won't work
[11:35] <square_head> nevermind
[11:35] <SurfnKid> i tried 3 times, its blocked, where's the file to unblock the file
[11:35] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: ok you just said something in chinese
[11:36] <SurfnKid> i mean wher's the file to unblock IPs
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: You will need to enable root (unless you can find some patches to make it work with sudo)
[11:36] <SurfnKid> oh ok
[11:36] <SurfnKid> i guess root would work but now im blocked
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> Its not in debian anymore due to lack of interest
[11:37] <iNiku> Armagguedes: okay, no clue then, I don't know what the standard windows vpn stuff is/does
[11:37] <iNiku> mitja: sounds like you're in for a reinstall
[11:37] <iNiku> mitja: you really shouldn't go changing permissions like that
[11:37] <iNiku> they are there for a reason.
[11:37] <Tommy2k4> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix
[11:38] <mitja> iNiku: yeah I know now, I thought they were saved in the current OS not where they were changed
[11:38] <Tommy2k4> how can i get rid ofthat error
[11:38] <Armagguedes> ok tks  iNiku
[11:38] <Armagguedes> i'll try asking elsewhere then
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> Armagguedes: If you are using ipsec the kame tools are easier to use than openswan
[11:38] <iNiku> mitja: you could compare permissions with a healthy system and restore them manually
[11:39] <Armagguedes> h3sp4wn ur speaking chinese again
[11:39] <iNiku> I didn't realize h3sp4wn was chinese :)
[11:40] <SurfnKid> grr
[11:40] <SurfnKid> doesnt work
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> I am not chinese but I like china
[11:40] <SurfnKid> heh
[11:40] <SurfnKid> napoleon dynamite is dorky
[11:41] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: where can i check for the webmin username and password
[11:42] <iNiku> Armagguedes: how about googling up ipsec, kame and openswan? you might be enlightened...
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> I haven't used it for years - try /pathto/webmin/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root newpassword
[11:43] <SurfnKid> ok
[11:43] <SurfnKid> thanx for lookin
[11:43] <SurfnKid> im doin all this just to get a pc to update thru a proxy
[11:44] <SurfnKid> apt-get doesnt go thru my router
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> huh ?
[11:44] <SurfnKid> so maybe if it goes thru a proxy it will
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> export http_proxy="http://192.168.1.2:8080" is all I use to get aptitude working through a proxy
[11:45] <SurfnKid> right something like that ill have to try
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: Is it a home router ? or work ?
[11:45] <SurfnKid> i just need to set up squid
[11:45] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: home
[11:46] <SurfnKid> synaptic has the problem, its on the forum
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: Which model of router ?
[11:46] <SurfnKid> sometimes itll work sometimes it wont
[11:46] <SurfnKid> netgear
[11:46] <SurfnKid> got another laptop thatll work
[11:46] <SurfnKid> just not this vaio
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> which one ? (sometimes I have to do aptitude update twice to get it to work
[11:46] <SurfnKid> both are going wifi
[11:47] <SurfnKid> mmm
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> I do aptitude update (then control c) and then do it again
[11:47] <SurfnKid> ah
[11:47] <SurfnKid> let me try that
[11:47] <SurfnKid> error, failed to connect, unable to fetch archives.
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> are the lines in sources.list http:// or ftp://
[11:48] <SurfnKid> you know what i had to do to get it working?  Internet connection sharing thru my laptop's wifi card, while that was directly connected to the DSLmodem. and That worked
[11:48] <SurfnKid> ok cool
[11:48] <SurfnKid> are those for proxy
[11:48] <SurfnKid> oh
[11:49] <SurfnKid> um let me check
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> So you have a dsl modem connected to a netgear router (via ethernet or usb)
[11:49] <SurfnKid> yep theyre all deb http:///
[11:49] <SurfnKid> err http:?/
[11:49] <SurfnKid> bah u know what i mean
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> i do
[11:50] <SurfnKid> eth
[11:50] <SurfnKid> my Dell laptop works fine
[11:50] <SurfnKid> :(
[11:50] <SurfnKid> just not this one
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> is the ppp_mtu set right (I think that is the name for it)
[11:50] <SurfnKid> 1500
[11:50] <Tommy2k4> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[11:51] <Tommy2k4> how do i get rid of that error when ./configure
[11:51] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: fails on synaptic and fails on apt-get
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: You could run debmirror on the laptop I suppose (takes 12gb for the full archive)
[11:52] <loanwolf> Hawkwind, you useing E17 in ubuntu..like you was in mandriva
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: I would try the mtu at 1480
[11:52] <SurfnKid> ok
[11:52] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: ouch 12gb i only have 9gb/5gb left
[11:52] <Hawkwind> loanwolf: Absolutely
[11:53] <mikkelk> heu
[11:53] <mikkelk> hey
[11:54] <loanwolf> Hawkwind, where do i find it at..i find E16 in synaptic
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> e-17 cvs
[11:54] <raphink> loanwolf: there are unofficial packages
[11:54] <Hawkwind> loanwolf: Look at my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forum.  There is a Kubuntu section and a how-to for E17
[11:54] <mikkelk> I got a problem with knetworkmanager and wpa - anyone who might be able to help?
[11:54] <raphink> but they are trashy
[11:54] <loanwolf> ok
[11:54] <Hawkwind> loanwolf: It's a how-to on compiling from CVS in fact.  It gives you the newest code and it's easy cause it uses a script
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: What wireless chipset ?
[11:55] <loanwolf> Hawkwind, ok thanks
[11:55] <mikkelk> Hmm...can't remember exactly, it's an Asus A6J laptop
[11:56] <mikkelk> I think it's intel pro wireless 3945
[11:56] <mikkelk> When i try to connect it stops at 28%
[11:57] <neko> has anyone else had any problems with kuickshow refusing to install?
[11:57] <SurfnKid> 1480 and still nothing, i gotta check those settings on the webserver to access it
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: I don't know much about those cards try looking in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (and remove knetworkmanager) anything you don't understand ask me
[11:58] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: can you paste the paths earlier to the password
[11:58] <loanwolf> anyone know why my screensavers will work by clicking the test button under screensavers..but why they wont auto atart
[11:58] <uniq> neko: it's removed, beeing replaced by gwenview. because the old imlib it depends on is no longer maintained.
[11:58] <mikkelk> Ok, thanks, i'll try that...
[11:58] <neko> uniq: thanks, I'll try that then
[11:58] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: It will depend on where you installed it
[11:59] <SurfnKid> right
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: And it may also not be like that anymore (I last used it in 2001)
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: For people buying web hosting accounts from direct connection
[11:59] <SurfnKid> /usr/share/webmin
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: Its probably easier to just install squid manually (if you are trying to install the squid webmin modules)
[12:00] <SurfnKid> yep, got it already installed
[12:00] <SurfnKid> but when i access a website
[12:00] <SurfnKid> it says it isnt permitted or allowed
[12:01] <SurfnKid> seems i gotta configure the proxy
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> hang on a min
[12:02] <JavaByte> see the advice not to change the default gfx setting if you have a ati or nvidia card - does that also apply to changing monitor settings or not?
[12:03] <SurfnKid> thx, im gonna read up on the documents
[12:03] <mikkelk> well, i don't really get it - it says that i should define af driver by "wpa-driver -something-", but which driver?