[12:11] no linuxmonkey..kde4 is supposed to have a preview though about the time Edgy is released [12:12] mdke: woah, what's https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/29075 all about? [12:12] Malone bug 29075 in ubuntu-doc "Have the Bazaar sandbox up" [Medium,Fix released] [12:13] LaserJock: what do you mean? [12:13] ah ty nixternal [12:13] mdke: we have a bzr sandbox on LP? [12:14] somehow I missed out on the bug [12:14] LaserJock: no, on the serverpronto box, you set it up, remember? [12:14] mdke: well, yeah, but I thought jerome was talking about LP [12:15] mdke: which I looking good, btw [12:15] i don't see that [12:15] k [12:15] "which I looking good"? :p [12:15] is [12:16] yes, I'm looking good these day, shesh [12:16] I need to learn to type [12:16] :) [12:16] my brain is fried getting ready to fly [12:16] when do you leave? [12:17] tomorrow at noon [12:17] oh cool [12:17] but I recently aquired an undergrad for the summer [12:17] and my boss wants me to finish up some experiments this afternoon [12:17] and I was working on that wiki [12:17] and I still need to send out some emails :/ === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:18] wasabi Madpilot [12:18] hi [12:18] so I had to get the undergrad setup for next week with plenty of stuff to keep him busy [12:18] hopefully he doesn't blow up the lab [12:18] haha, nice [12:18] got a slave [12:18] Madpilot: hiya [12:19] yes, I'm very much a slave driver ;-) [12:19] hi mdke [12:19] mdke: should I commit my merge of the PG? It doesn't validate because of the $lulu-url; thing [12:19] Madpilot: how are things? [12:20] LaserJock: sure, if you like. [12:20] mdke, pretty good here - start of the weekend, thankfully! [12:20] &lulu-store;, I was slipping into a merge between Bash and docbook, scary [12:21] Madpilot: yeah [12:21] mdke, how many of those new translations are going to be needing Lulu covers? [12:21] Madpilot: I updated the wiki page, about 10? [12:21] OK, I'll get on that in a bit [12:21] Madpilot: no rush, I haven't done the pdfs yet. My desktop guide arrived today, it looks shiny [12:22] nice. I haven't ordered anything from Lulu yet - I should [12:22] mdke: what's the URL again for the page with all the translations [12:22] when editing docbooks, what is your favorite editor to use? anyone? im using kate, which is ok, but am tempted to switch to something better [12:23] emacs, vim, kate, gedit [12:23] gedit [12:23] thinking of attempting to convert a relative over to Ubuntu (or possibly Xubuntu) [12:23] Bluefish [12:23] LaserJock: MatthewEast/CompleteBookTranslations [12:23] mdke: thanks [12:23] i used to use a bluefish clone in windows for docbooks many moons ago [12:24] bah, no new PG :( === LaserJock sulks in the corner ;-) [12:24] hehe [12:25] LaserJock: progress, but nothing else completely finished [12:25] yeah, I saw you added some [12:25] it seems as if you can't attempt to join the doc-team launchpad team twice...i forgot i did that a couple of weeks back [12:25] I'm amazed that it got as much translation action as it did [12:26] I'm pretty pleased [12:26] plenty of time yet [12:28] hopefully bhuvan will be ok with my commit log ;-) [12:29] did the meeting happen this morning? Was at work still [12:29] :) [12:29] Madpilot: yes [12:29] like 2 hrs or something [12:30] excellent [12:30] we claimed it was because Matthew and the Burger Bros. weren't there ;-) [12:31] outrageous [12:31] hehe [12:31] prove us wrong :-) === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:35] heh. the irc logs aren't up to date yet - the meeting was at -meeting rather than here, right? [12:35] yeah [12:35] 10:00, although i don't know what that translates to on fabbione's log [12:35] I read em in "current" [12:36] 'current' is currently blank, it seems. [12:36] maybe it switched to the next day [12:37] must be a day back, yeah [12:39] man, I'm terrible with email [12:51] OK, maybe I'm just thick, but I can't find the docteam meeting in any of the most recent four log files? [12:55] in #ubuntu-meeting? [12:55] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2006-06-15.html [12:57] yeah, your right [12:57] ^^^ seems to go right from the tail end of a tech meeting to the Edubuntu meeting, no sign of DocTeam [12:57] yeah [12:57] weird [12:57] stealth meeting? ;) [12:57] no, didn't mdke read it from there too? [12:58] apparently [12:59] doc team should be in there later im assuming...asi it takes a little time with that i have noticed...plus the edubuntu and tech meeting were yesterday [12:59] and i think we were the only meeting in there today [01:00] Madpilot: want me to send you the log? [01:00] actually..it isn't looking good..because there is nothing in current whatsoever that is where it should be [01:00] i have a log also [01:00] i think ;) [01:00] my log is better than your log ;-) [01:01] :p [01:01] lol [01:01] LaserJock, I'll wait - hopefully it'll show up in -current [01:01] my log's daddy could beat up your log's daddy ;) [01:01] oh yeah?! [01:01] gahaha [01:01] shesh, I've got 26M of logs [01:01] I need to tar the old ones up [01:02] is that your loggy's daddy [01:02] hehe [01:02] that was supposed to say....whose your loggy's daddy ;) [01:02] ooop [01:02] s [01:02] lol [01:03] hmm, I sure hope I can get my mic to work with my laptop :/ [01:04] it seems to hate me [01:04] ok..i want to edit some docs...any kubuntu related items need any work? [01:04] as it seems from the wiki that all projects are WIP [01:04] ;) [01:04] Packaging Guide ;-) [01:04] doh [01:04] i knew you would sling that out there [01:04] hahaha [01:04] mwuahahaha [01:04] i need to really read that over and see if i can comment on anything [01:04] I'm a slave driver, remember. I get people to do all my work :-) [01:05] haha ya [01:05] get your intern to do it ;) [01:05] i love interns [01:05] and i get LaserJock to do all mu work [01:05] wha? [01:05] nooooooo [01:05] s/mu/my [01:05] my first job out of the military they gave me a programmer for an intern..i abused that poor kid [01:05] lol [01:05] tsk, tsk [01:06] he now works for EA games now...lol [01:06] 8 years ago today as a matter of fact..i had him programming ladder logic for me while i worked on VB front ends for SAP/ERP and control automation systems [01:06] he was a whiz..i actually couldn't keep him busy...yet i stayed swamped [01:07] you get that too LaserJock? [01:07] nah, I just turn them loose ;-) [01:07] i think it is because we don't want to give them so much work that they actually look more important then us ;) [01:07] or stand out more rather [01:07] yeah [01:07] you just got to take all the credit ;-) [01:07] we give them enough and ya..hahah i was gonna say that [01:11] well, the undergrad I've got working for me this summer seems pretty good [01:11] and he likes Ubuntu which is a definate plus [01:11] LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide <-is this a good place to start for info on that, or do you have something better? [01:12] that is good...now put him to doc work ;) [01:12] get um up to speed on docbooks and let um at it ;) [01:12] nixternal: well, if you want a read just go to help.ubuntu.com [01:12] arg...i didn't even see it there [01:12] nixternal: no, I need him to do "real" work while I'm off playing with Ubuntu [01:12] i seen the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/and server [01:13] :( [01:13] everybody overlooks my little PG [01:13] hehe [01:13] it isn't that little from the looks of it [01:14] well, the license takes up like 11 pages or something ;-) [01:14] now the version im looking at..this is it until edgy correct? or are you looking at updating and cleaning it up? [01:14] oh, I'm just going to make it the most badass doc around ;-) [01:14] lol [01:15] do you know anything about packaging? [01:15] a little [01:15] then read through it, see if it makes sense, if you find something confusing or think something should be explained better but it on the wiki page you went to [01:16] *put [01:16] i have been wanting to learn how one goes about packaging because i always see people talking about it..now i know where to get the infor to learn ;) [01:16] that UbuntuPackagingGuide wiki page? [01:16] yeah, that is my notes for Edgy [01:16] ok...great... [01:17] so just add stuff there or email me or ping me here, whatever [01:17] no prob...im sure if it is confusing i will find it [01:17] i usually do :0 [01:17] good :-) [01:17] u think that right click is confusing nixternal === linuxmonkey hides [01:17] i think the power button is confusing...right click isn't even in my vocab ;) [01:18] hmm :-) [01:18] i wear special glasses..and i talk to my computer...that way there i don't have to right click ;) [01:18] people call me... [01:18] RETARDED!!! [01:18] ;) [01:18] Retarded: To be held back [01:19] with the retarded...you have to insert the carlos mencia "dee de dee" sound [01:20] that wiki page is conspicuously missing references to ponies. [01:20] doh, I knew I was missing something [01:20] I'll put it there along with a prominent link to BddebianIsAGod [01:21] hehe [01:21] crimsun_ and his ponies ;) [01:24] were can I find references to the official colors for art [01:24] www.crimsuns-ponies.com === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:25] there aren't any listed on the ArtTeams pages? [01:25] no not that im fiding [01:25] finding [01:26] if you can't find any..talk to kwwii..he should know [01:31] found it [01:35] LaserJock: if you see bug posts from RichJohnson, that is me btw ;) [01:35] anyone of you actually [01:35] so if it is bogus, feel free to holler at me in here... ;) [01:39] nixternal: ok [01:41] hehe, you can also right-click and open in a new tab ;-) [01:41] ya that too ;) [01:41] i always keep one finger near the ctrl or shift keys for this...as i hate being drug away from a page [01:42] could just be my personal preference also [01:56] nixternal: it's kinda intentional to open links in the same window you click them. That is what most users expect to happen [01:59] I know what you mean though nixternal, I just get used to using right click or keyboard shortcut === mdke hugs middle click [02:00] well, try as the might, Apple has not figure out how to do middle click very well [02:00] even right click is a little iffy [02:01] oh heah, I just tried it out in Camino and it worked great [02:01] you are free to ignore me now :-) === LaserJock really, really needs to get Ubuntu on this thing === mdke sleeps [02:03] LaserJock: have fun in paris [02:03] mdke: thanks, I'll try. You going to try Team Speak? [02:04] we shall see. I don't have any headsets tho [02:04] mdke: actually, I wonder if they'll keep that server up, it would be great to use for a doc sprint [02:04] good point [02:05] you should mention it to somebody (or maybe I can in Paris) [02:05] I hadn't thought of that before [02:05] do so [02:05] and if you see Znarl, poke him in the ribs [02:05] hehe [02:05] more like give him a bribe [02:06] I am poking him daily [02:06] good [02:07] for the last three days he has said that today would be the day :/ [02:07] today he even backed up the server in preparation [02:07] hmm, is it just Paris preperations? 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[05:05] [ack, the last meeting was yesterday, missed out on it.) === skorasaurus is now known as skora [05:17] i have a suggestion about directions on the website (specifically http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop and Ready to try Ubuntu?) [05:17] where should i direct this suggestion to ? [05:18] I think there might be a webmaster email address at the bottom of the website [05:18] on the bottom of the page, its just a link to the canonical site. [05:18] hmm [05:20] on after the dialog 'ready to try?' it tells people to download the livecd and test ubuntu without changing anything. There's a link there to the /download page, but I think people can easily get confused which one is the live cd that won't change their computer (desktop or server) [05:20] I've encountered this problem with a family member who took up my suggestion to try ubuntu. [05:20] skora: well, you could email the ubuntu-doc mailing list to at least alert people. I'm not sure what the proper procedure for website bugs is === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8D3D75.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:21] thanks Laser_away [05:22] sorry I'm not more help, the website is not under doc team control but a couple of the doc team people can make changes I believe === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor_ [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-65-46.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-91-212.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-91-212.pskn.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-250-74.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:57] Madpilot: i'll give you a buzz later via email [07:57] klepas, sure [07:57] about the wiki re-organisation via email [07:57] thanks! :) [07:58] that's it for me [07:58] night === skorasaurus [n=skorasau@70-39-193-120.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-239-134.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-239-134.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Sapote [n=guillerm@host220.201-252-195.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-239-63.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc