[12:00] <NoUse> rapha how bizzare is that, you can read it but sudo can't
[12:00] <DarthMorlock> hello?
[12:00] <bbrazil> Jemt: that's probably a kernel lock-up then
[12:00] <valehru> gftp is really not stable right now on my systemj.....keeps shutting down
[12:00] <Jemt> bbrazil: True, but I actually need some of this new software - ie. MySQL 5
[12:00] <crimsun_> rixth: I'm debugging a fairly critical resume from suspend-to-RAM issue currently; can it wait, or will your computer explode if I look at it in an hour?
[12:00] <Jemt> bbrazil: Uhm, ok.
[12:00] <NoUse> rapha I forget, can you run apt-get?
[12:00] <bbrazil> Jemt: based on the number with the problem, driver issue
[12:00] <DarthMorlock> is any body out there?
[12:00] <Dial_tone> no
[12:00] <rixth> crimsun_, just let me know when is a good time for you
[12:01] <DarthMorlock> hello?
[12:01] <rapha> NoUse: yes, works fine
[12:01] <bbrazil> Jemt: for one or two essential pieces of software, you could always build your own .deb with the latest sources
[12:01] <NoUse> rapha apt-get --purge remove sudo && apt-get install sudo
[12:01] <DarthMorlock> may i speak to a mod plz?
[12:02] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Well, it's all taken care of. Time to reboot. See you soon!
[12:02] <rixth> !tell DarthMorlock about aolbonics
[12:02] <NoUse> DarthMorlock what do you need to speak to an op for?
[12:02] <Jemt> bbrazil: I guess that is true.
[12:02] <stevejesus> does anyone know how to change factory presets on a monitor?
[12:02] <yoshiznit123> !msg ubotu
[12:02] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, yoshiznit123
[12:02] <DarthMorlock> i have a very simple qustion to ask
[12:02] <DarthMorlock> whats the diff between the livecd and the alternate cds?
[12:02] <NoUse> !justask
[12:02] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:02] <NoUse> DarthMorlock one is a live cd
[12:03] <rapha> NoUse: trying ...
[12:03] <NoUse> DarthMorlock one is a test mode cd
[12:03] <joemauch> can anyone confirm XGL works with ATi x1000 series cards?
[12:03] <stevejesus> mine is locked at 1280, 1024 but can do 1600, 1200
[12:03] <DarthMorlock> i just did 15 times already
[12:03] <bbrazil> stevejesus: check your monitor manual
[12:03] <Dial_tone> you needed a mod for that?
[12:03] <crimsun_> draconius: the live cd has only a graphical installer; the alternate has only a text-based installer
[12:03] <crimsun_> draconius: sorry
[12:03] <ThrAnCh> :D
[12:03] <crimsun_> DarthMorlock: the live cd has only a graphical installer; the alternate has only a text-based installer
[12:03] <NoUse> DarthMorlock text* mode
[12:03] <stevejesus> bbrazil, lol.  i dont have one.  it is used,  i am poor.  got a trinitron for 10 dollars today.
[12:03] <bbrazil> Jemt: what I'd try is not loading th ati driver at all
[12:03] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, thanks for your help. I'll move on to Gentoo tomorrow - and if that dosn't work, I'll move back to Breezy. Hopefully, they have fixed the bug in a couple of months. I had serious problems moving from Hoary to Breezy as well. It just seems that Ubuntu is not worth upgrading untill several months after a new release
[12:03] <DarthMorlock> thanks crimsun apprecat it
[12:03] <laervian> hi everyone
[12:03] <bbrazil> stevejesus: search the web, you should find one online
[12:03] <quux> One more shot- Dapper, default install, sitting at desktop without user invoking any apps, would use approximately how much RAM?
[12:04] <crimsun_> DarthMorlock: and FWIW, you totally didn't need an op for that. It's described on the download page. :)
[12:04] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, the ATI drivers is not loaded when I'm using the VESA driver, right?
[12:04] <bbrazil> Jemt: it's generally good advice to wait a bit after any release
[12:04] <bbrazil> Jemt: no, it's still loaded in the kernel, just not used
[12:04] <stevejesus> bbrazil, been looking.  will continue to search.  was hoping to find someone knowledgable on the topic.
[12:04] <DarthMorlock> it wasnt described on the download page
[12:04] <Jemt> bbrazil: Yea
[12:04] <bbrazil> stevejesus: mash the buttons?
[12:04] <DarthMorlock> thats why i came here
[12:04] <Jemt> bbrazil: Oh, I see
[12:04] <stevejesus> bbrazil, searching on the web is obvious.  if you dont know, i will accept that just as well
[12:04] <laervian> does anyone here have installed many DE at the same time?
[12:05] <DarthMorlock> nm
[12:05] <Jemt> bbrazil: Well, I actually think I'll take your advise, and downgrade to Breezy first then. I'll give Dapper a short in 2-4 months
[12:05] <void^> quux: around 100mb. and i'm not kidding.
[12:05] <bbrazil> stevejesus: it isn't really an ubuntu problem, try #hardware maybe
[12:05] <Anarchy> anyone around work on ubuntu
[12:05] <Jemt> shot
[12:05] <DarthMorlock> fuck this
[12:05] <NoUse> !language
[12:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:05] <Toba> argh
[12:05] <Toba> any gpg gurus in here?
[12:05] <quux> void^: *excellent!, and thank you from the bottom of my black and flabby little heart
[12:05] <Toba> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[12:05] <Toba> gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
[12:05] <Anarchy> how did ubuntu manage to flip the key press for vol{up|down}
[12:06] <Toba> what does that even MEAN
[12:06] <bbrazil> Toba: your secret key is missing
[12:06] <bbrazil> Toba: check ~/.gnupg
[12:06] <Toba> ...but gpg --list-keys shows that I have it
[12:06] <bbrazil> Toba: what about --list-secret-keys (?)
[12:06] <NoUse> rapha any luck?
[12:06] <Toba> yeah, it's there
[12:06] <rapha> NoUse: sorry, it's still working...
[12:06] <rapha> NoUse: I'll tell you :)
[12:07] <Toba> expires in 2011
[12:07] <NoUse> rapha really? it probably shouldn't take that long
[12:07] <bbrazil> Toba: okay, you must be trying to sign it with a different key
[12:07] <Toba> ...what
[12:07] <rapha> NoUse: it removed about a dozen packages
[12:07] <quux> void^: can I prevail to ask aproximately how much hard disk (ex. swap partition) was used?
[12:07] <bbrazil> Toba: what app are you using gpg from?
[12:07] <Toba> well I did revoke my old key
[12:07] <NoUse> rapha ah
[12:07] <Toba> I'm using it command line
[12:07] <Toba> nothing else
[12:07] <stevejesus> bbrazil, ok, well here is an ubuntu problam.  ubuntu generally overides preset information provided it is given the correct sync ranges.  was able to do 1600x1200 in hoary, but using nv driver or nvidia, but every since dapper i havent been able to do 1600x1200 period.
[12:07] <rapha> NoUse: okay, done now.
[12:08] <NoUse> rapha ok test out sudo
[12:08] <stevejesus> bbrazil, any ideas?
[12:08] <rapha> NoUse: the error is still there
[12:08] <bbrazil> Toba: okay, this is pushing my knowledge. There's a --default-key arg or similar
[12:08] <laervian> has anyone else had roblems with greeter?
[12:08] <stevejesus> bbrazil, well, i should say xorg overrides preset info, not ubuntu
[12:08] <BHSPitMonkey> anyone with an ipw2200 wireless card in here?
[12:08] <dayspring> has anyone here ever compiled clamscan?
[12:08] <NoUse> rapha I have no idea, the only other thing I can think of is the file system is corrupt
[12:08] <b14ck> can i convert fat32 to linux filesystem without loosing data?
[12:08] <bbrazil> stevejesus: you done a reconfig on xorg and set 1600x1200?
[12:08] <stevejesus> bbrazil, its not the version of xorg however as i am able to achieve 1600x1200 in fedora no motter what
[12:08] <NoUse> b14ck no
[12:09] <void^> quux: no swap in use after a clean boot.. hd usage is something between 1.5 and 2gb.. i'm not on that box atm.
[12:09] <stevejesus> bbrazil, yes.
[12:09] <rapha> NoUse: kay thx. Then I'll reiserfsck it and when that doesn't work I'll try out the alternate install CD.
[12:09] <NoUse> rapha ok, good luck
[12:09] <quux> void: good enough, and thanks again
[12:09] <bbrazil> stevejesus: and set appropriate monitor settings too?
[12:09] <b14ck> NoUse:  ok atleast repartition freespace then format to linux ext
[12:09] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Alright. Sound works, for the most part, it seems. What do I do now?
[12:09] <stevejesus> bbrazil, dapper dousnt even automatically detect my monitors at all when i run the reconfigure x script.  i have to give my own identifier and set the ranges my hand
[12:09] <Jeruvy> if /etc/network/interfaces shows eth0 on a inet, why does it ifup in inet6 ??
[12:09] <NoUse> b14ck yes
[12:09] <rapha> Thx NoUse :)
[12:09] <NoUse> b14ck gparted
[12:09] <Dial_tone> can you expand / by booting from cd and running something? I have more swap than I need.
[12:10] <b14ck> NoUse:  ty
[12:10] <bbrazil> stevejesus: maybe just grab the modelines from fedora?
[12:10] <stevejesus> bbrazil, and all my monitors are common
[12:10] <Draconicus> Again, I must ask if the "copy remaining packages to hard disk" step in the Breezy installation is vital. Is it?
[12:10] <stevejesus> bbrazil, i backed up my xorg.conf from fedora, used it as a whole, and even copied buts and pieces from it where nessesary after running a reconfigure.  still no dice
[12:11] <b14ck> NoUse:  so if i create another partition won't my grub have boot problems?
[12:11] <NoUse> b14ck shouldn't
[12:11] <b14ck> NoUse: k
[12:11] <NoUse> if you currenctly have 4 paritions, they will still be 1-4 and the one will be 5
[12:11] <ape_> hello
[12:12] <bbrazil> stevejesus: that's odd. maybe it's differnet versions of xorg that don't like playing around with things that your monitor doesn't want to do?
[12:12] <FlimFlamMan> i'm installing ubuntu on an existing debian-stable install.  any reason to not use the same /home partition for both?
[12:12] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: should be okay
[12:12] <bbrazil> FlimFlamMan: you can share swap safely too
[12:12] <FlimFlamMan> cool, thanks
[12:12] <stevejesus> bbrazil, fc5 and ubuntu both run xorg 7.  hoary and breezy both ran similiar enough versions of xorg 6 and still the same issue.
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> that kernel update ruined my monitor options
[12:13] <Draconicus> crimsun_: *poke*
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> now I'm stuck
[12:13] <bbrazil> stevejesus: exact same versions and patches?
[12:13] <FlimFlamMan> ok, here goes.  hopefully i'll be back
[12:14] <stevejesus> bbrazil, i was however able to achieve 1600x1200 in ubuntu flight 4-7.  i backed up that config too as i was exstatic that it worked!
[12:14] <moonlite> i need to reinstall my server, but when i downloaded the ubuntu server iso i realized i had no empty cd's to record it on.
[12:14] <Draconicus> crimsun_: XMMS still won't output through ALSA correctly.
[12:14] <Blissex> moonlite: 'deboostrap' might help.
[12:14] <moonlite> i only have some old desktop dapper flight 4 or something. Is it possible to install dapper anyway?
[12:15] <moonlite> Blissex: hm ok?
[12:15] <bbrazil> stevejesus: that narrows down the search a bit then. Grab an older xorg package and try that
[12:15] <eobanb> moonlite, yeah, just do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <Anarchy> so where do the ubuntu devs gather
[12:15] <crimsun_> Draconicus: pastebin ``amixer''
[12:15] <stevejesus> bbrazil, bbrazil, of course not the exact same versions and patches...  they are close enough that they can use the same config!!
[12:15] <Blissex> moonlite: or install the previous version and upgrade, after 'apt-cdrom'ing the new version, after mounting it as 'loop'
[12:15] <ManiacWork> damnit.
[12:15] <crimsun_> Anarchy: in -devel, but please don't spew $random. We're extremely busy.
[12:15] <calisee> does anyone have a samsung 712n where they can't adjust width from the monitor menu?
[12:15] <bbrazil> stevejesus: samba 3 can use a samba 2 config
[12:16] <ManiacWork> the new sparc ubuntu server only supports the niagra stuff
[12:16] <Anarchy> crimsun_, think us gentoo devs are not busy
[12:16] <Anarchy> :)
[12:16] <Cin> crimsun_, that's nice to hear.
[12:16] <stevejesus> bbrazil, ok...  my point exactly...
[12:16] <calisee> does anyone have a samsung 712n where they can't adjust width from the monitor menu? my ubuntu desktop has an inch margin on the right side and the bottom is cut off a little too.  this is on my external monitor from my laptop
[12:16] <Anarchy> we been informed about how you all have managed to flip the input/output of volume keys on laptops but are unable to find out how you all did it
[12:16] <stevejesus> calisee, use the controls on the monitor
[12:16] <calisee> stevejesus: i did, there is no width adjustment
[12:16] <bbrazil> stevejesus: configs are one of the slower things to change, but if you can get an older version working and compare the code you should be able to figure out what's going on and get it fixed
[12:17] <Draconicus> crimsun_: If I go through eSound, which I assume is esd, XMMS works.
[12:17] <b14ck> NoUse:  ok i got gparted. where do i start it from?
[12:17] <crimsun_> Anarchy: look in acpi-support
[12:17] <Cin> crimsun_, I tried Gentoo's liveCD on my laptop like an hour ago. Got my nic working, then it stopped working. Then I got bored, too tired. Think I'll do a bit of reading and try a full install.
[12:17] <Anarchy> not done via acpi
[12:18] <Cin> Uhm.
[12:18] <Cin> crimsun_, wrong person.
[12:18] <moonlite> Blissex: ah. neat. thanks
[12:18] <Cin> Anarchy, I meant.
[12:18] <stevejesus> bbrazil, yeah.  was afraid of that.  its beginning to not become worth it.  so much for my highres xinerama spread.  already had the 3 monitor config shot out of the sky because the nvidia driver doesnt like the 2 geforces i have together.
[12:18] <crimsun_> Anarchy: it's not "flipped" elsewhere
[12:18] <crimsun_> Anarchy: unless your wording has completely thrown me for a loop?
[12:18] <Anarchy> if I was to open xev and press vol up key
[12:19] <Anarchy> we get nothing but key press no key release right now
[12:19] <Anarchy> http://notebookanalysis.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=498&start=30
[12:19] <Anarchy> might be a better understanding
[12:19] <tenzin_> Since some time I cant start amule...the console gives only this as output: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1623/ somebody can help?
[12:19] <Drake_> when you ssh into a box and it says "You have new mail" where is that actually being stored/sent if you don't have a mail server set up on that box?
[12:20] <Cin> Anarchy, is Gentoo at all based on LFS?
[12:20] <DarkRaven> i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:20] <stevejesus> anyone here have issues doing 1600x1200 with any common dell 17inch monitors that are completely capable of it?
[12:20] <Dyslexic> Is there a way to set the default program used to open files?
[12:20] <Cin> stevejesus... what's the max you can go?
[12:20] <Anarchy> Cin, if you concider building your entire system from source then yes
[12:21] <Cin> Dyslexic, sure is. On KDE and GNOME.
[12:21] <Anarchy> we just make it a bit easier with ebuilds to handle all the BS for ya
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> you need to edit xorg.conf or whatever its called
[12:21] <Dyslexic> Gnome
[12:21] <stevejesus> Cin, 1600x1200 with both of my dell monitors.  able to do so in windows and fedora.
[12:21] <[Wiebel] > grmbl
[12:21] <Draconicus> crimsun_: To cover all bases, the latest kernel was not installed by the update manager, along with a number of other packages, because some packages would have to be removed. I haven't bothered to go through Synaptic to update them, yet. Do you think this could be at all related?
[12:21] <[Wiebel] > is there any way of disabling find-as-you-type in gnome?
[12:21] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Here you go: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/amixer
[12:21] <stevejesus> Cin, but wont happen in ubuntu since hoary
[12:21] <Cin> Anarchy, aye, that sounds good. I was interested in LFS. Then realised I'd need to know more, and think Gentoo'll probably help out learning more about Linux?
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> stevejesus: you need to edit xorg.conf
[12:22] <walker_> I have just loaded Ubuntu on my computer. Can anyone tell me ho I can I can find my slave hard drive that is not showing up on my file system?
[12:22] <Anarchy> Cin, it will if you make use of the expierence
[12:22] <Anarchy> right now I am still fighting seamonkey which we plan to replace mozilla with
[12:22] <Anarchy> :(
[12:22] <Drake_> Cin there is a huge learning curve for Gentoo but you learn a lot about what is going on under the hood so to speak
[12:22] <Draconicus> Cin: Gentoo will give you a good understanding of the compiling process, and it'll boost your patience, too, unless you have none to begin with. I wouldn't recommend Gentoo if you want things installed right away, as compiling requires a bit of a wait on average machines
[12:22] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, seriously, i have been wrestling with it for quite sometime.  i still have my xorg.conf backups from hoary.  i have one from fedora.  i am very familiar with that file.
[12:23] <crimsun_> Draconicus: no. Nothing touched emu10k1 between 23->25 (only emux synth stuff, but that's not relevant here)
[12:23] <Anarchy> but yes I am the mozilla herd I handle everything from firefox/thunderbird/mozilla/xulrunner/enigmail and such
[12:23] <b14ck> what's the unmount command :P
[12:23] <Anarchy> umount
[12:23] <Tommy2k4> so whats the problem then
[12:23] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, i keep xorg.conf from every configuration i have ever had as a point of reference.
[12:23] <b14ck> doesn't work
[12:23] <dayspring> I just typed "sudo ./configure" and "make install"!  but now what do I do?
[12:23] <DarkRaven> i have a problem, adept updated my kernel to the new version, and now i can't boot x because it says that kernel doesn't have the nvidia module. (i installed the module via module-assistant but nothing) someone can help me?
[12:23] <Anarchy> b14ck, umount -f
[12:23] <b14ck> sudo: unmount: command not found
[12:23] <wastrel> what's adept
[12:24] <Anarchy> umount
[12:24] <DarkRaven> adept is automatic update
[12:24] <b14ck> ooo
[12:24] <Anarchy> not unmount
[12:24] <BHSPitLappy> hi all
[12:24] <DarkRaven> lol
[12:24] <b14ck> ic thanx
[12:24] <Cin> Drake_, aye that's what I'm interested in. And Draconicus, I figured as much, so I'll be trying it on a box seperate to my (most used) desktop computer, so I can leave it going and chill. =] 
[12:24] <b14ck> Anarchy: ty
[12:24] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, whats the problem?  it wont work in ubuntu breezy or dapper.  will work in hoary hedgehog and fc5.  and windows has no [problem with that res either
[12:24] <Draconicus> Cin: Ah. Good show.
[12:24] <salah> hi. is there any video converters for linux avalaible?
[12:24] <BHSPitLappy> ipw2200 JUST isn't being detected out-of-box as it should! what can I do?
[12:24] <Tommy2k4> oh well i got it working straight away by adding my v/h refresh rates and the extra resolutions to that file in kubuntu dapper
[12:24] <Cin> Draconicus, hehe.
[12:24] <Anarchy> Cin, what type of machine is it
[12:24] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, thats why i am looking for people with similiar experiences
[12:24] <Drake_> b14ck: umount
[12:24] <DarkRaven> wha't the command to see loaded kernel modules????
[12:24] <Anarchy> lsmod
[12:24] <crimsun_> Draconicus: xmms is audible via its esd output but not through its alsa output?
[12:24] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, unless you have a suggestion to offer.
[12:25] <Cin> Anarchy, 1Ghz 512Mb of RAM (HP laptop).
[12:25] <Anarchy> Cin, athlon proc
[12:25] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Hmm... You inspired me to test my synth stuff. pmidi can't connect to port 65:0 on my Soundblaster. It looks like the wavetables moved. Why is that?
[12:25] <Cin> Anarchy, ney Intel.
[12:25] <Anarchy> can not help ya hehe
[12:25] <DarkRaven> anarchy how to show up slowly? (i'm using console on the other pc)
[12:25] <Cin> Anarchy, hehe.
[12:25] <Anarchy> I have most stage tarballs all optimized but do not do intel
[12:25] <b14ck> Drake_:  tx :D
[12:25] <Anarchy> lsmod | less
[12:25] <crimsun_> Draconicus: "42". I'm a bit busy to be running off looking at emux atm.
[12:26] <stevejesus> Tommy2k4, i assume not.
[12:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: If the eSound plugin is ESD, then yes.
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> nope
[12:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: 81, actually.
[12:26] <crimsun_> Draconicus: Is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' audible?
[12:26] <Cin> Ubuntu's my first Linux. Although I love it, my nerd side wants to get under the hood and fiddle.
[12:26] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Yep.
[12:26] <amittp> are there any issues with nvidia driver for breazy? I have geforce4 crd. Installed nvidia driver as per docs, but not able to sety nvidia as driver in my xorg.conf file
[12:27] <amittp> any ideaS?
[12:27] <crimsun_> Draconicus: beautiful, then it has to be an XMMS config issue.
[12:27] <keNzi> hi guys
[12:27] <crimsun_> Draconicus: what is the alsa output plugin's config set to?
[12:27] <Draconicus> crimsun_: When GDM started, it played no sound. splay can't play anything, eitehr.
[12:27] <Draconicus> either*
[12:27] <keNzi> anyone can tell me where i can download Kernel-Source-2-6.15-20 for ubuntu ?
[12:27] <DarkRaven> uhmmmm the nvidia modules does not seem to be loaded but module-assistant says that it's already installed.... and he is present in /etc/modules
[12:27] <Anarchy> Cin, my first distro was slackware back in '93
[12:27] <stevejesus> amittp, go to your dile, and change "driver" field to "nvidia"
[12:27] <stevejesus> amittp, xorg.conf*
[12:27] <dayspring> hi
[12:28] <stevejesus> amittp, hit control alt backspace.
[12:28] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Aha! It was set to the nForce audio.
[12:28] <DarkRaven> stevejesus already done
[12:28] <stevejesus> amittp, you should see nvidia logo
[12:28] <DarkRaven> is a problem relative to new kernel
[12:28] <Cin> Anarchy, hehe, most people I know's was Slackware. (It was actually my first, but as a Windows user, I couldn't figure out how to install it. So I class Ubuntu as my first success Linux, haha)
[12:28] <ubuntu_> ?
[12:28] <Anarchy> yeah
[12:29] <logical_mark> hey guys. When I am typing and I am holding down the shift key and hit back space, I get logged out. How the hell do I turn this off?!
[12:29] <amittp> hmm, i tried all that, i dunno what is dile, i hand edited the file, although xserver cannot find screens
[12:29] <Anarchy> I went from slackware to gentoo in 99 been with gentoo every since
[12:29] <DarkRaven> how to load kernel modules?????
[12:29] <keNzi> anyone can tell me where i can download Kernel-Source-2-6.15-20 for ubuntu ?
[12:29] <kandinski> Can anyone help me with sound trouble? Quake2 sound is very choppy for me on Dapper on a Toshiba m200 (Intel 8x0 and ac97)
[12:29] <Anarchy> been a dev for them for over a year now :O
[12:29] <Cin> Win. :D
[12:29] <amittp> DarkRaven, lsmod
[12:29] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I'm now enjoying a remix of Popcorn through XMMS and ALSA. :)
[12:29] <Cin> Anarchy, what do you work on in Gentoo?
[12:29] <DarkRaven> amittp so a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <troytroy> hi i was wondering how i could take up channel op automaically in my channel when i go offline and return; any ideas?
[12:29] <crimsun_> Draconicus: great.
[12:29] <Anarchy> mozilla products
[12:29] <wastrel> modprobe <3
[12:29] <Anarchy> qmail vpopmail
[12:29] <amittp> DarkRaven, thanks,
[12:29] <OSIndependence> Was there another attack?
[12:29] <Anarchy> relay-ctrl
[12:29] <Anarchy> lisp projects
[12:29] <DarkRaven> amittp lsmod is to the mod
[12:29] <Anarchy> amd64 and ppc archs
[12:29] <DarkRaven> not to load them
[12:29] <crimsun_> Draconicus: remember to revert your change to /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[12:29] <Anarchy> list goes on and on hehe
[12:30] <Cin> Cool.
[12:30] <wastrel> DarkRaven:  modprobe
[12:30] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Do what, now?
[12:30] <DarkRaven> module nvidia not found -_-
[12:30] <DarkRaven> so module-assistant is drunk?
[12:30] <Cin> 64-bit, eh. Working towards the future. :P
[12:30] <crimsun_> Draconicus: remove the 'return 0' that you added.
[12:30] <amittp> DarkRaven, oh yeah sorry -- there goes -- as per wastrel
[12:30] <Anarchy> http://notebookanalysis.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=498&start=30
[12:30] <Anarchy> that is what I am currently working on :( but with no luck
[12:30] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri
[12:31] <DarkRaven> is there another way to insert module in the kernel that is not module-assistant?
[12:31] <wastrel> i never heard of module-assistant
[12:31] <wastrel> use modprobe
[12:31] <RadiantFire> DarkRaven: modprobe is better
[12:31] <wastrel> modprobe is teh kewl
[12:31] <DarkRaven> how to install the nvidia?
[12:31] <Cin> Anarchy, that's nice.
[12:31] <logical_mark> hey guys. When I am typing and I am holding down the shift key and hit back space, I get logged out. How the hell do I turn this off?!
[12:31] <DarkRaven> if i type modprobe nvidia
[12:31] <DarkRaven> it says no nvidia module found
[12:31] <wastrel> logical_mark:  there's a fix on the fourm - search there babby
[12:32] <tenzin_> Since some time I cant start amule...the console gives only this as output: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1623/ somebody can help?
[12:32] <yoshiznit123> logical_mark: type xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us (change for different language)
[12:32] <Cin> logical_mark, are you on Xgl?
[12:32] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Ah. Right. Done. Let me do a couple more tests just to make sure everything's set.
[12:32] <logical_mark> Cin, yes I am on XGL
[12:32] <Cin> Nice. :D
[12:32] <ubuntu_> hi, im new in linux where i can find some good tutorial o manual to get into the world of Linux?
[12:32] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri" line. i can see the gdm login screen and after inserting my login and password the system stops at gnome splash screen and i can do nothing. what could be happening?
[12:33] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Splay can't play things.
[12:33] <Cin> ubuntu_, are you running Ubuntu right now?
[12:33] <tristanmike> logical_mark: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=1199
[12:33] <ubuntu_> yes
[12:33] <yoshiznit123> wsjunior, whats your card?
[12:33] <ubuntu_> the live cd...
[12:33] <DarkRaven> who can help  me?
[12:33] <Cin> ubuntu_, how are you finding it
[12:33] <crimsun_> Draconicus: does splay use /dev/dsp exclusively? If so, it's sending output to your primary card0, which is the nforce (snd_intel8x0)
[12:33] <Cin> ?
[12:33] <ubuntu_> jeje i'm just checking
[12:33] <Draconicus> crimsun_: How can I remap card0?
[12:34] <Cin> Sweet.
[12:34] <amittp> DarkRaven, maybe check this pout -- old post but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=374484
[12:34] <ubuntu_> i found it whit a friend
[12:34] <amittp> i am gonna try that myself
[12:34] <crimsun_> Draconicus: see the dsp & adsp parameters to snd_pcm_oss
[12:34] <wsjunior> yoshiznit123: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[12:34] <tb77> DarkRaven: what's your problem?
[12:34] <tristanmike> Cin: xgl Rocks wicked bad
[12:34] <yoshiznit123> wsjunior, hmm i dont' know
[12:34] <Draconicus> crimsun_: How do I do that?
[12:34] <Anarchy> ubuntu_, start with tldp.org
[12:34] <green_earz> ubuntu_: check out the link for intro in to linux world > http://www.linux.org/
[12:35] <tristanmike> Cin: sorry, wrong person
[12:35] <Cin> tristanmike, aye. I'm loving the refresh and such. No flickering at all.
[12:35] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Pardon my lack of thinking.
[12:35] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri" line. i can see the gdm login screen and after inserting my login and password the system stops at gnome splash screen and i can do nothing. what could be happening? could anybody help me? my card is: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible con
[12:35] <Cin> tristanmike, do you know if they'll fix the slow resizing...?
[12:35] <crimsun_> Draconicus: unload snd_pcm_oss and reload it, passing the correct card index (from /proc/asound/cards) to modprobe
[12:35] <zOap> in ubuntu the firefox icon is redirected to ubuntu. I want it to be redirected to mozilla. How do I change that?
[12:35] <amarokker> can someone please see if my FTP server works?
[12:35] <tristanmike> Cin:  slow resizing ?
[12:36] <ubuntu_> ok, tnk you Anarchy,green_earz...  ---- and which version of linux do you think i must try... i'm a principiant, jeje
[12:36] <amarokker> open: ftp://g0dchild.mooo.com
[12:36] <Cin> tristanmike, a few people have had it. Maybe it's just our old(ish) graphics cards.
[12:36] <amarokker> hello Snowfairy:)
[12:36] <teckfatt> amarokker: ok post the link here
[12:36] <mz2> i'm having strange issues with gnome-panel
[12:36] <zOap> amarokker,
[12:36] <Snowfairy> HI amarokker, how's it going? :)
[12:36] <tristanmike> Cin: you mean when you minimize it's slow ?
[12:36] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Err... Is it a module? I'm a little confused. If so, I forgot how to unload modules..
[12:36] <amarokker> Am, fine, nice to see you in here :)
[12:36] <Cin> tristanmike, yeah.
[12:36] <mz2> it just sort of dies every now and then. and when i try killing it, it doesn't load the applets and the menus won't work
[12:36] <Anarchy> ubuntu_, stay away from gentoo :) it is for advanced users more then anything
[12:37] <teckfatt> amarokker: it not work
[12:37] <Cin> ubuntu_, I think Ubuntu is perfect for beginner. Don't want to over-do it. :P
[12:37] <tristanmike> Cin: hmmm, I only have a GeforceFX5200 and mine is too fast :P
[12:37] <Snowfairy> amarokker, I try to hang around... I'm not a whole horde of help yet... but I've gotten so much help here, I try to give back ;0
[12:37] <tristanmike> Cin: there is an option to change speed
[12:37] <Cin> tristanmike, mine's a GeForce MX 440.
[12:37] <amarokker> teckfatt: oh fooey.
[12:37] <mz2> even logging out from my session, restarting gdm and logging back in won't wake it up once that happens
[12:37] <crimsun_> Draconicus: yes, it's a module. modprobe -r unloads; modprobe loads.
[12:37] <Cin> tristanmike, hm, where?
[12:37] <zOap> amarokker, It just hangs
[12:37] <rupert> i'm trying to get ndiswrapper working on a fresh install of dapper amd64. the dmesg says unkown symbol dma_ops when i try to modprobe it. google comes back with nothing, what's up?
[12:38] <Cin> Tristam, it's weird, it's like, EVERYTHING is uber fast, I can wobble maximised windows no problem, but resizing is sluggish? o.o
[12:38] <tristanmike> Cin: hmmm, I came across it somewhere, I slowed it down but it was too slow so I kept what I have now, lemme see if I can find again
[12:38] <amarokker> Snowfairy: thats how it works, i try to help however little I can- and when the linux-gurus dance, I just sit and drool.
[12:38] <teckfatt> amarokker: why not workin? are u 1st time setup ftp?
[12:38] <mz2> only thing i've found does work is if i go to a runmode which essentially kills all processes running and then go back to 5 and relogin. strange
[12:38] <Cin> o.o
[12:38] <tristanmike> Cin: resizing is a little sluggish here to, hmmm, never noticed, I thought you meant minimize, don't ask me why I thought that :P
[12:39] <amarokker> zOap: yeah, wait till I paste the .conf file-  teckfatt: i dont know- someone said it could be routers and firewalls
[12:39] <amarokker> dont have any
[12:39] <green_earz> ubuntu_: i would say go for debian or ubuntu. but use a spare machine to get use to the install process and the system
[12:39] <zOap> rupert, how did you install ndis?
[12:39] <yoshiznit123> cin: it's a known bug for compiz i think
[12:39] <Cin> yoshiznit123, ahhh. I hope so. Wouldn't want it to be my graphics card's speed.
[12:39] <zOap> amarokker, ok, I'll hang around here
[12:39] <amarokker> and sometimes, there's a msg saying 'no route to host'- another person from #amarok suggested that it might have been my ISP- so i am going around circles right now.
[12:39] <teckfatt> amarokker: what brand of router are u using?
[12:39] <Warbo> Hi, does anyone know why my floppy drive won't mount? The light flashes but nobody's home
[12:40] <ubuntu_> Well i tnk that i will be try to be more inside the linux world... tnk yo for u opinions
[12:40] <rupert> z0ap, off of source forge, compiled it and installed it
[12:40] <amarokker> teckfatt: no router- thats the problem, i'll post my /etc/network/interfaces and vsftpd.conf file. brb
[12:40] <squiggly> sudo rm -rf /
[12:40] <irc1324> anyone knows where the default value (after boot) of /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu{0,1}/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq comes from? For me, it's 1333000 and I have to manually set it to 1833000, which is annoying. What is the recommended way to fix this?
[12:40] <zOap> hey squiggly
[12:40] <zOap> :)
[12:40] <Warbo> Nobody do use that command!
[12:41] <teckfatt> amarokker: have u install any firewall software?
[12:41] <squiggly> who are you z0ap
[12:41] <Warbo> squiggly: There are n00bs in here
[12:41] <zOap> squiggly, I'm nobody
[12:41] <squiggly> guess i should tone down then
[12:41] <wsjunior> hello. i need help with my ati card. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the instructions of the wiki. after restart the system i cannot use gnome anymore unless i open the xorg.conf and comment the Load "dri" line. i can see the gdm login screen and after inserting my login and password the system stops at gnome splash screen and i can do nothing. what could be happening?
[12:41] <squiggly> warbo, your drive is probably broken
[12:41] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/WctyM498.html
[12:41] <Warbo> squiggly: Well, are all three?
[12:41] <squiggly> it should be automounted by ubuntu anyway
[12:41] <squiggly> i haven't been on ubuntu for a while, but...
[12:42] <amarokker> teckfatt: no, not that I know off- just to make sure, i checked through synaptic- none of the firewalls i know about are installed
[12:42] <squiggly> try mountall
[12:42] <Cin> Hm, my programs have stopped opening.
[12:42] <Warbo> squiggly: Funny that, but my Dad's system doesn't even load the floppy module by default (but his drive mounts fine)
[12:42] <Cin> What does that command do, squiggly?
[12:42] <squiggly> cin: it turns your hard drive into an oven and bakes you cookies
[12:42] <amarokker> although i think the network devices might be causing the problem, i have two network interfaces- one physical (on board LAN - eth0) and another device created by my ADSL eagle-usb modem (eth1)-
[12:43] <Cin> squiggly, I thought something smelled good.
[12:43] <dayspring> I just compiled and installed clamscan! How can I restart this service witrhout rebooting pls?
[12:43] <B1zz> oooo what commad is that!
[12:43] <amarokker> i dont know how i am supposed to configure those.
[12:43] <dayspring> any ideas?
[12:43] <squiggly> dayspring you shouldn't need to reboot
[12:43] <amarokker> wait- can clamav cause this problem? its not a firewall...but just to make sure.
[12:43] <Cin> amarokker, you're on a router?
[12:44] <tobberoth> How do I do so my ipod is automatically mounted to, for example, /media/ipod every time it's inserted?
[12:44] <Warbo> dayspring: Have a look in /etc/init.d for something to do with clamav/clamscan and then do "sudo /etc/init.d/whateveryoufound restart"
[12:44] <amarokker> Cin: no, no- ADSL modem directly connected to the telephone line
[12:44] <teckfatt> amarokker: just wonder are u using the proftpd?
[12:44] <Cin> amarokker, oh, I dunno that.
[12:44] <amarokker> teckfatt: no luck with that either, now am using vsftpd
[12:44] <Warbo> tobberoth: Doesn't it do that already? (In GNOME?)
[12:44] <troytroy> hi i was wondering how i could take up channel op automaically in my channel when i go offline and return; any ideas?
[12:45] <tobberoth> Warbo, I'm in KDE at the moment
[12:45] <rupert> i'm trying to get ndiswrapper working on a fresh install of dapper amd64. the dmesg says unkown symbol dma_ops when i try to modprobe it. google comes back with nothing, what's up?
[12:45] <Warbo> tobberoth: I would guess KDE is very similar in that respect but I'm not sure
[12:45] <Cin> tobberoth, hmm something about naming the drive. I've named mine as 'RD' (removable drive) and it mounts as that every time. Lemmie look something up, interesting is that.
[12:46] <tobberoth> Cin: Yeah, it mounts right now as sdg1
[12:46] <tobberoth> I have an ipod folder in the /media though, but it doesn't mount it there
[12:47] <glennus> !ipod
[12:47] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[12:47] <teckfatt> amarokker: u can try ssh
[12:47] <Cin> glennus, nice one glennus.
[12:47] <glennus> Cin: uh... thanks :)
[12:47] <Cin> :P
[12:48] <Cin> Hm, wonder why the wiki is secured?
[12:48] <tobberoth> glennus: That doesn't help. My whole problem is that amarok crashes because it won't find my ipod properly.
[12:48] <tobberoth> I'm using amarok 1.4 BTW
[12:48] <Scorpmoon> one day I'll install linux for my parents... but there's a long way to go before that happens, in terms of useability...
[12:49] <Anarchy> well have fun back to getnoo development I go
[12:49] <Stroganoff> http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/vrac/pics/ubuntu-logo.jpg
[12:49] <Cin> Stroganoff, funnily enough I saw that same picture before, without the Ubuntu logo... >.>
[12:50] <lilminimey0> hi everyone
[12:50] <lilminimey0> has anyone got problem with java?
[12:50] <Warbo> !java
[12:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[12:50] <lilminimey0> i got two pc's running ubuntu in the house, suddenly, both seemd to crash while running openoffice
[12:50] <glennus> tobberoth: sorry, I actually wasn't paying attention to what's going on, i just wanted the link for a friend here in the room with me who was asking about ipod.
[12:50] <lilminimey0> i get this
[12:51] <glennus> hence my confusion, Cin.
[12:51] <lilminimey0> [Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
[12:51] <lilminimey0> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[12:51] <lilminimey0> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 233:  8385 Avbrutt (SIGABRT)       "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[12:51] <lilminimey0> ** (process:8370): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[12:51] <tobberoth> I could of course name my device ipod, but that's kind of an ugly hax, right=
[12:51] <lilminimey0> anyone seen this before?
[12:51] <tobberoth> Seems to me it should see it's an ipod by itself.
[12:52] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Sorry about the delay. The module has been unloaded and reloaded. Now what?
[12:52] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Have you tried using a different Java VM?
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[12:52] <crimsun_> Draconicus: you were supposed to pass a parameter to modprobe (upon loading)
[12:52] <lilminimey0> Warbo: no, but the wierd is that it have been working for days
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > if you configure cups to detect  lan printers
[12:52] <lilminimey0> but it seems like after a update it wont work any longer
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > how should the cups server be configured
[12:52] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Have you just installed an update or something?
[12:52] <[Wiebel] > so it broadcasts its printers
[12:52] <lilminimey0> ive installed ubuntu for my fathers in his pc, and he has been happy
[12:52] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Ah, you did
[12:52] <lilminimey0> but he is a leder on a big company
[12:52] <ericmoritz\0> hi, gnome-system-moniter is reporting Xorg between 62% - 100% cpu usage sitting idle.  Does anyone know what could cause that?
[12:53] <lilminimey0> an need openoffice
[12:53] <rixxon> i want to share files with cell phones over IR. i've gotten as far as getting irdadump to show "20:03:02.265707 xid:rsp 8b0d3aed < 00004f16 S=6 s=3 Nokia 3200 hint=b125 [ PnP Modem Fax Telephony IrCOMM IrOBEX ]  (27)" when my cell phone is in front of my ir port... but how to start exchange files?
[12:53] <lilminimey0> In his work he is depending on openoffice
[12:53] <lilminimey0> thats why this is so chinky
[12:53] <BIAF> Archive Manager tells me rpm not supported, is there another tool supply'd with ubuntu for rpm
[12:53] <Tommy2k4> .deb
[12:53] <Warbo> BIAF: How about RPM?
[12:53] <wastrel> don't install rpms if you can avoid it
[12:53] <lilminimey0> does nobody else get error while launching openoffice?
[12:54] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, install debian stable with sun-java and openoffice in vmware ^^
[12:54] <lilminimey0> I think it maybe caused by a update
[12:54] <BIAF> it was an rpm of WEBMIN
[12:54] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: no, to many important documents
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> anyone know of some good troubleshooting commands for hardware (graphics particulrily) other than glxgears and glxinfo?
[12:54] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, so?
[12:54] <gizmo_the_great1> my scvreen keeps flickering playing 3d games
[12:54] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: I rather want to get this working
[12:54] <Warbo> BIAF: Use alien to convert it to a deb, but if you want to extract it then you could use rpm
[12:55] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: i
[12:55] <BIAF> thx
[12:55] <lilminimey0> ve done a massive config in this ubuntu 6.06 lts version
[12:55] <Stroganoff> just in case you don't, this would be a temporal workaround
[12:55] <Madpilot> lilminimey0, I've got a fully updated Ubuntu install, and OOo opens just fine here....
[12:55] <Derailed> wow weird.... gaim as an IRC client....,
[12:55] <lilminimey0> Madpilot: any idea of what might be causing the p roblem?
[12:55] <lilminimey0> [Java framework]  Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
[12:55] <lilminimey0> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[12:55] <lilminimey0> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 233:  8385 Avbrutt (SIGABRT)       "$sd_prog/$sd_binary" "$@"
[12:55] <lilminimey0> ** (process:8370): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[12:56] <lilminimey0> that is the error output
[12:56] <Drake_> I have persistent of logs on the 17th minute of every hour every day that seems to be done by cron but I am not sure where the cron job is and why it is neccesary of if it is neccessary ...Jun 16 16:17:01 drake CRON[21986] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jun 16 16:17:01 drake CRON[21986] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[12:56] <Madpilot> lilminimey0, try re-installing OOo?
[12:56] <b14ck> i created a new partition using gparted but i can't mount it mount: can't find /dev/hda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:56] <Warbo> lilminimey0: What Java are you using?
[12:56] <lilminimey0> Warbo: blackdown
[12:56] <Madpilot> Warbo, afaik OOo ships with it's own version of Java, it doesn't care what else is on the system
[12:56] <Warbo> b14ck: You need to rebott after making a new partition (you don't HAVE to but it is the easiest way)
[12:56] <Warbo> Madpilot: Oh, OK
[12:56] <Drake_> how could I track down where that cron job is being called from and what is the reason for it?
[12:57] <b14ck> Warbo: i resized and formated and it told me about something being busy
[12:57] <Derailed> Hey guys, has anyone here experimented with Multiseat (two monitors, keyboards and mouses) with Dapper Drake?
[12:57] <b14ck> Warbo:  and i rebooted and i can see hda8 but i can't mount it
[12:57] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Oh. Sorry. Lemme backtrack.
[12:58] <nbjayme> i have replaced totem-gstreamer with totem-xine.  totem-xine crashes when loaded.... on xine-ui it says cannot find demux ?  what could be the problem?
[12:58] <lilminimey0> I think this whole situation is very sad:/
[12:58] <Warbo> b14ck: You need to make a filesystem on it. Choose your filesystem and do "sudo mkfs.<yourfilesystem> /dev/hda8"
[12:58] <Warbo> b14ck: What filesystem do you want it to use?
[12:58] <b14ck> warbo ext2 i guess
[12:59] <Draconicus> crimsun_: How do I 'send a pass' ?
[12:59] <b14ck> Warbo:  ext 2
[12:59] <b14ck> Warbo:  ok i think i got it now. i'll reboot
[12:59] <gizmo_the_great1> when i play 3d games, after about 10 minutes the screen goes black for a second then comes back flickering. It does it Windows too. I have tried swapping monitor - problem persist. any ideas?
[12:59] <Warbo> b14ck: Then just "sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda8" (or use mke2fs instead of mkfs.ext2)
[12:59] <lilminimey0> Warbo: might it work if i reinstall j2re1.4 package?
[12:59] <Warbo> lilminimey0: Maybe, I'm not too sure on this
[12:59] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the refresh menu command?
[01:00] <lilminimey0> Warbo: its worth a trie:)
[01:00] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, sudo dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org2
[01:00] <gnomefreak> its menu-something :(
[01:00] <lilminimey0> Stroganoff: thanks, i'll trie taht:)
[01:00] <lilminimey0> *that
[01:00] <green_earz> Drake_: have a look at cat /etc/crontab and ls -l /etc | grep cron  to if you can track the cron job down
[01:00] <Warbo> AA! My floppy doesn't work and I need to transfer files to my Amiga. (This one doesn't have a CDROM or 3.5" HD support)
[01:01] <Warbo> I think my floppy drive is knackered because I get I/O errors in dmesg and it doesn't mount, but it happens to 3 different drives
[01:01] <roostishaw> anyone, what programing language would you reccomend for writing a simple script that gets pages off the web, and tests to see if certain pages exist?
[01:02] <Warbo> roostishaw: Bash, with wget
[01:02] <gnomefreak> wget :)
[01:02] <BIAF> warbo : amiga disks will be useful formated to fat12 720k disks, then linux / win can be used to transfer files to Amiga
[01:02] <roostishaw> Warbo, thats what its in now, i was hoping to convert it to a language that i could write a gui for, and compile it
[01:02] <wastrel> maybe boot with livecd or rescuecd and see if floppy drive works?
[01:02] <Warbo> BIAF: I have loads of fat32 720KB floppies but none of my PC floppy drives work
[01:02] <crimsun_> Draconicus: "send a pass"?
[01:02] <Snowfairy> When you install mpg123 and vorbis-tools, you get functionality that makes nautilus play mp3s when you hover the icon.... is there a way to make that work with .ogg files too?
[01:03] <BIAF> workbench 2.04 might not have the tool tho to see the contents
[01:03] <BIAF> 3.1 will
[01:03] <BIAF> pcdos
[01:03] <Warbo> roostishaw: You could probably make a GUI for it easiest in Python, and no compiling required
[01:03] <FlimFlamMan> ok.....  i don't know if this is a problem or not.  i'm installing dapper on an existing debian-stable system.  with the dapper installer, i deleted one partition and split it into two partitions.  now fdisk etlls me:  "Partition table entries are not in disk order".  and the new partitions come at the end, changing the partition numbers of the partitions that come after them physically on the disk.
[01:03] <Drake_> green_earz: I have four entries in /etc/crontab the first one is 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly though I don't see what would cause it to spawn something that would create a Jun 16 18:17:01 drake CRON[21994] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) in /var/log/auth.log
[01:03] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, are u on ATI? try using the vesa driver, seriously
[01:03] <Warbo> BIAF: It's called CrossDOS and I am somewhat of an Amiga expert, but not PC :(
[01:04] <gizmo_the_great1> when i play 3d games, after about 10 minutes the screen goes black for a second then comes back flickering. It does it Windows too. I have tried swapping monitor - problem persist. any ideas?
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> Anyone have any ideas how to get xine to output through jackd ?
[01:04] <roostishaw> Warbo, ok... ill look into it, thank you!
[01:04] <Stroganoff> lilminimey0, Temporary fix: Add fglrx to restricted modules in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common.
[01:04] <Stroganoff> from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184507&page=2
[01:04] <b14ck> Warbo: still can't mount partition
[01:04] <BIAF> Warbo : but just format a disk in the amiga to 720k pc format, then it can be used to transfew files back n forwared
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> (I have it working fine through alsaplayer -o jack and xmms with the jack output)
[01:05] <Warbo> b14ck: What happens after you run mount and then "dmesg | tail"?
[01:05] <Warbo> BIAF: What? Even when all of my PC floppy drives make weird noises and don't mount? Wow, Linux really IS good!
[01:05] <larson9999> amiga: maybe i should dig mine out
[01:05] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Err... pass a parameter, rather. O_X
[01:06] <BIAF> :)
[01:06] <larson9999> linux is not only good. it rocks!!
[01:06] <b14ck> Warbo:  loads of bluetooth stuph and cdrom open failed
[01:06] <dayspring> larson9999: hello
[01:06] <wastrel> this linux thing interests me, i should check it out.
[01:06] <larson9999> dayspring: howdy
[01:06] <dayspring> larson9999: linux is good!  Ms wincrap is not
[01:06] <gizmo_the_great1> what does dmesg do, exactly?
[01:06] <dayspring> larson9999: :)
[01:06] <Warbo> b14ck: After you have just run mount for your hda8 partition?
[01:06] <FlimFlamMan> can anyone tell me if my disk is hosed?  with the dapper installer, i deleted one partition and split it into two partitions.  now fdisk says:  "Partition table entries are not in disk order".
[01:07] <wastrel> man dmesg
[01:07] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep
[01:07] <Warbo> gizmo_the_great1: It tells you the kernel's log
[01:07] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: its hosed
[01:07] <b14ck> warbo if i run sudo mount -rw /dev/hda8 i get mount: can't find /dev/hda8 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:07] <Warbo> gizmo_the_great1: tail cuts it down to the end (most recent)
[01:07] <FlimFlamMan> nice.
[01:07] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep
[01:07] <BIAF> warbo : create a network from ur amiga to your linux box
[01:08] <BIAF> hehe
[01:08] <FlimFlamMan> wtf is that?  how did that get into a release?
[01:08] <Warbo> b14ck: Aha! You need to give it a mountpoint on the command line, since it is not in /etc/fstab "sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mountpoint -rw"
[01:08] <jdmpike> so is everyone liking Dapper?
[01:08] <FlimFlamMan> no, it just trashed my drive.
[01:08] <dayspring> jdmpike: havent got it yet
[01:08] <b14ck> Warbo: k i'll try that thanx
[01:08] <jdmpike> dayspring, what are you waiting for?
[01:08] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep! get a new drive and try again
[01:09] <dayspring> jdmpike: waiting for the CD to arrive
[01:09] <jdmpike> dayspring, gotcha - you're going to love it
[01:09] <Warbo> BIAF: I've just remebered I have an Amiga CDROM drive in the other room!
[01:09] <dayspring> jdmpike: using a modem :)  will take 3 days to dl
[01:09] <FlimFlamMan> get a new 4-sata raid array and try again.  ok.
[01:09] <larson9999> jdmpike: i switched from mandrake(7 years or so with it) to dapper.  i'd say i like it better so far.  just a tad though.  i like mandriva
[01:09] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: yep! get that and try again
[01:09] <b14ck> Warbo: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[01:09] <Warbo> larson9999: I hate Mandriva, always have. I don't know why I just do :)
[01:10] <jdmpike> dayspring, will you be able to download kernel upgrades?
[01:10] <dayspring> jdmpike: yes, np! they are only 36mb
[01:10] <dayspring> jdmpike: takes about 2 hours :)
[01:10] <jdmpike> dayspring, cool
[01:10] <Warbo> b14ck: OK then, "sudo mount /dev/hda8 /mountpoint -t ext2 -rw" (remember to actually put a real mountpoint instead of /mountpoint)
[01:10] <dayspring> jdmpike: :)
[01:10] <jdmpike> dayspring, I have been loving it
[01:10] <crimsun_> Draconicus: sudo modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss && sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss dsp_map=1
[01:11] <larson9999> Warbo: i tried ubuntu before but i could never get it to install on this machine until this release.  funny thing is on my other machine which the old version would install ok, dapper doesn't recognize the harddrive.
[01:11] <boabsta> anyone know what plugin you need for K3B to burn VCDs??
[01:11] <b14ck> Warbo:  mountpoint like in /mnt/hda8 ?
[01:11] <dayspring> jdmpike: you used ubuntu before dapper?
[01:11] <crimsun_> Draconicus: change the '1' to the correct device from /proc/asound/cards that you wish to use
[01:11] <chr1s_> got a question regarding xorg
[01:11] <jdmpike> dayspring, I started using it with Warty
[01:11] <Warbo> b14ck: Anywhere, as long as it exists already (so use mkdir to make it first)
[01:11] <b14ck> k
[01:11] <FearMoth> what repository do I have to enable to get libxine-extracodecs ?
[01:11] <jdmpike> dayspring, used to use gentoo, but I got tired of compiling everything on my laptop
[01:11] <dayspring> jdmpike: Linux is great! prob is too many try it for 2 hours and go back to MS windows as soon as they run into a challenge in Linux
[01:12] <nbjayme> FearMoth: multiverse
[01:12] <dayspring> jdmpike: will dapper install and work ok on notebooks?
[01:12] <Drake_> is it normal to have something like Jun 16 18:17:01 drake CRON[21994] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[01:12] <Drake_> Jun 16 18:17:01 drake CRON[21994] : (pam_unix) session closed for user root
[01:12] <jdmpike> dayspring, I may run gentoo on my new 64 bit server though - it can compile things a bit quicker
[01:12] <FearMoth> nbjayme: do I need to add it into my apt sources manually, or is it already there?
[01:12] <gizmo_the_great1> anyone know what this might mean? APIC error on CPU0: 04(04)
[01:12] <chr1s_> Everything works fine with my i386 kernel.  I was able to install the k7 kernel (I have an AMD cpu), but when X tries to start it crashes... any ideas?
[01:12] <larson9999> vcds? i thought you could just copy those like regular cds... in fact i know you can.  i made backups of a dozen or so of my  son's thai vds
[01:12] <nbjayme> you can edit the entry in gui and add multiverse
[01:12] <green_earz> Drake_:    cd /etc/cron.hourly   and have look in, there may be a clue ?
[01:13] <Rendo> Anyone got some experience with the GUI not displaying with the LiveCD for 5.10?
[01:13] <nbjayme> FearMoth: you can edit the entry in gui and add multiverse
[01:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> FearMoth: you need to enable universe repos than add multiverse after universe in the deb lines so it looks like archive.ubuntu.com/bleh/bleh universe multiverse
[01:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone here familiar with pptpconfig?
[01:13] <boabsta> does anyone know what plugin you need for K3B to burn VCDs??
[01:13] <dayspring> gizmo_the_great1: yep! it means that on thge 4th of April 2006, there was a memory read error in your secondary cache in your CPU :)
[01:13] <Drake_> green_earz: there is nothing in /etc/cron.hourly except a file called .placeholder
[01:14] <dayspring> EnsignRedshirt: I used pppconfig
[01:14] <FearMoth> thanks
[01:14] <EnsignRedshirt> I had my VPN tunnel working briefly, but now when I try to start a tunnel, after a second or two it starts sending hundreds of thousand of packets.
[01:14] <larson9999> dayspring: if i weren't so stubborn i would have done that.  took me 2 years to figure out how to get my joystick and printer working correctly.  that was '97 and things are better now.  i guess the cutting edge still has issues but i don't have cutting edge hw
[01:15] <dayspring> larson9999: cool :)
[01:15] <steveO_> My auto login on gnome was broke but today I did apt-get upgrade and now it's working again!
[01:15] <gizmo_the_great1> dayspring: thanks. but what might the error mean?
[01:15] <larson9999> EnsignRedshirt: is that a ipv6 thing?
[01:15] <Firetech> hmm, is there any way to move files around on an ext3 parition, so it can be resized to a smaller size with the same information left on it? (my files are a bit wildly distributed right now)
[01:15] <gizmo_the_great1> dayspring: i ask because my PC turning itself off and I haveing problems with diusplay
[01:15] <b14ck> Warbo:  ok it mounted. will it mount every time i reboot or i have to put in that command?
[01:15] <EnsignRedshirt> larson9999: That's the wrong kind of question to ask me... :)
[01:15] <nbjayme> i have a problem with totem-xine... it crashes. anyone had the same problem and able to know the work-around?
[01:15] <Drake_> green_earz: there is an entry in /etc/crontable 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly that seems to do something on the 17th minute of the each hour though I don't see anything in /etc/cron.hourly that it could be doing
[01:16] <zhenre> Is there any web-based server managment tool for ubuntu (dapperdrake server)
[01:16] <Warbo> b14ck: Put it in /etc/fstab (copy your line for "/" and fiddle with the options in it to make it right)
[01:16] <Rendo> Anyone got some experience with the GUI not displaying with the LiveCD for 5.10?
[01:16] <Kyral> zhenre: ISPConfig?
[01:16] <larson9999> EnsignRedshirt: me, too.
[01:17] <eric__> hello could someone help me
[01:17] <zhenre> kyral: sounds good, can you apt-get it?
[01:17] <gizmo_the_great1> is there a terminal command to show the temperature of CPU?
[01:17] <Kyral> zhenre: dunno
[01:17] <zhenre> kyral: doesn't seem to have it (as ispconfig)
[01:17] <Kyral> zhenre: HowtoForge has a nice Howto
[01:17] <EnsignRedshirt> !someone
[01:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[01:18] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: if you have lm-sensors installed and configured, then sensors should do ti
[01:18] <goudkov> hi guys, i just installed dapper and i'm having a problem with locale warnings. i do see that locales is installe, but the problem is still there. are there any ubuntu-specific docs for that?
[01:18] <eric__> i just got ubuntu and cant open anything i download ie. msn messenger or real player
[01:18] <dayspring> I just compiled and installed clamscan! How can I restart this service witrhout rebooting pls?
[01:18] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: it says command not found
[01:18] <chr1s_> chr1s
[01:18] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: then you don't have it installed :P
[01:18] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: darn :-)
[01:18] <dayspring> larson9999: any ideas?
[01:18] <eric__> and i have a dvd rom drive but cant play dvd's
[01:19] <AlienX> ubotu, tell eric__ about restrictedformats
[01:19] <tat> eric__: sounds like youre downloading windows binaries (.exe-files).
[01:19] <dayspring> eric__: you want to copy?
[01:19] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: install "lm-sensors" then run "sensors-detect" as root
[01:19] <nbjayme> where does totem-xine place the logs or error logs ?
[01:19] <dayspring> !tell eric__ about restrictedformats
[01:19] <Rendo> Anyone got the pwnt knowledge of the livecd?  The GUI doesn't seem to work and I want to show the mother in law the awesomeisity of Ubuntu.
[01:19] <eric__> yeah it was a .exe
[01:19] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: would that be 'apt-get lm-sensors?
[01:19] <dayspring> I just compiled and installed clamscan! How can I restart this service witrhout rebooting pls?
[01:19] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: sudo if you aren't root
[01:19] <nbjayme> i changed my totem-gstreamer to totem-xine.... anybody experienced a crash when totem-xine is loaded?  what could be the problem? where to get the error log?
[01:19] <larson9999> dayspring: i don't use clamscan but i'm assuming it's a deamon you can run with a restart param
[01:20] <EnsignRedshirt> dayspring: Earlier, was it a typo when you said you use pppconfig?  Not pptpconfig?
[01:20] <eric__> theres a lot going on... how do i install things?
[01:20] <cdubya> !dapper
[01:20] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[01:20] <Kyral> !install
[01:20] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[01:20] <boabsta> dayspring: /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam restart possibly
[01:20] <cdubya> !Upgrade
[01:20] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[01:20] <tat> eric__: you cant install windows programs on ubuntu without using wine, and you dont want to do that.
[01:20] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: 'sudo apt-get lm-sensors' returns :  'Invalid operation lm-sensors'?
[01:20] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: oh lol you need "apt-get install" :P
[01:20] <dayspring> EnsignRedshirt: ive only used pppconfig
[01:20] <jobezone> Hello, has anyone used Wine to play Riven DVD (Sequel to Myst)?
[01:20] <Rendo> gizmo sudo apt-get install <thing>
[01:20] <larson9999> tat: what's wrong with installing wine?
[01:21] <EnsignRedshirt> dayspring: I see.
[01:21] <eric__> whats apt-get install?
[01:21] <Rendo> eric__ it installs a package.
[01:21] <cstrippie> winecfg
[01:21] <cdubya> eric_, apt is the debian package manager
[01:21] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: excellent - thanks. its installing now :-)
[01:21] <cstrippie> oops
[01:21] <tat> larson9999: nothing wrong, but i dont think its such a good idea to run msn messenger with wine :)
[01:21] <gizmo_the_great1> Rendo: thanks
[01:21] <Rendo> eric__ You choose which package you want to install, or you can use the synaptic manager to do it with more ease.
[01:21] <BIAF> jobezone : try http://www.transgaming.com/
[01:21] <Rendo> tat: Gaim :P
[01:22] <tat> or amsn :)
[01:22] <eric__> maybe linux isnt for me...i have no idea what u guys r talking about
[01:22] <EnsignRedshirt> eric__: You might want to try the GUI program synaptic: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager  instead of the command line.
[01:22] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral: darn. after all that it says' No sensors found' Nevermind
[01:22] <dayspring> ive compiled latest clamscan version! Yet it doesnt run, as it runs older version still!  Any advice?
[01:22] <Rendo> tat: Only a fool would run Msn :P
[01:22] <larson9999> tat msn messenger?  i agree.  use kopete
[01:22] <cdubya> eric_, if you have questions, just ask. :)
[01:22] <Kyral> gizmo_the_great1: you need to run "sensors-detect" first as root
[01:22] <wastrel> dayspring:  make sure newer clamscan is in your path before the older clamscan
[01:22] <BIAF> eric : click Apps then Add/Remove , you can install aload of programs from there..
[01:22] <cdubya> gaim works great with msn.....:)
[01:22] <gizmo_the_great1> Kyral:   oh right - sorry
[01:22] <tat> eric__: amsn and gaim are good alternatives to msn messenger :)
[01:22] <Drake_> green_earz: any clue to find out what is causing that in the /var/log/auth.log?
[01:22] <cdubya> at least for me
[01:22] <tobberoth> MSN sucks, Windows Live Messenger is nice though, it's the best instans messenger IMO.
[01:22] <larson9999> eric__: linux is for everyone.  all the cool kids are doing it.  don't give up now
[01:22] <dayspring> wastrel: how I check that please?
[01:22] <wastrel> dayspring:  or call newer clamscan with full path name
[01:22] <dayspring> wastrel: how?
[01:23] <wastrel> dayspring:  first type "which clamscan"
[01:23] <larson9999> eric__: kopete is also a good im client.  and it does webcam.  gaim doesn't
[01:23] <BIAF> eric : anything allready selected is allready on system, look around in menu(s)
[01:23] <dayspring> wastrel: it said: /usr/local/bin/clamscan
[01:23] <wastrel> well that should be the new one
[01:23] <dayspring> wastrel: now what?
[01:23] <wastrel> ok what's good
[01:23] <wastrel> well how are you running clamscan?
[01:23] <green_earz> Drake_:   http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-security/43305-my-machine-risk.html
[01:23] <dayspring> wastrel: I type clamscan
[01:23] <chr1s_> is there not an automatix package for K7?
[01:23] <wastrel> er, s/what/that/
[01:24] <gizmo_the_great1> tobberoth: just use aMSN
[01:24] <dayspring> wastrel: but I compliled a new version and it doesnt run the new version :(
[01:24] <jksd> hi, sorry, simple question but what's the command line for downloading packages?
[01:24] <eric__> can amsn and gaim talk with the normal ones so i could talk to my friends who have those?
[01:24] <chr1s_> jksd... its sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[01:24] <tobberoth> gizmo_the_great1: nah, kopete works fine.. I just sorta miss offline messages and shared folders.
[01:24] <gizmo_the_great1> eric yes
[01:24] <jksd> chr1s_: thanks :)
[01:24] <wastrel> dayspring:  the older version was installed by synaptic?
[01:24] <cdubya> eric_, yep, do it all the time
[01:24] <dayspring> wastrel: cant remmeber
[01:25] <wastrel> dayspring:  did you compile it?  the older one?
[01:25] <nbjayme> is kopete capable of doing webcam with yahoo messenger?
[01:25] <b14ck> Warbo: really sorry to bother again but mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda8 is already mounted on /
[01:25] <b14ck> mount failed
[01:25] <dayspring> wastrel: cant remmeber :(
[01:25] <wastrel> dayspring:  ok how did you install the new version?
[01:25] <larson9999> eric__: yes. that's they're purpose.  if you use gaim or kopete you can even talk to people who use yahoo, icq, jabber, et al.
[01:25] <eric__> ok, totem also won't recognize my dvd's
[01:25] <Drake_> green_earz: thanks for the link that is good that it is not a risk though still is bugging me why it is being called and where exactly is the cron job that is calling it
[01:26] <gizmo_the_great1> eric_ have you tried running 'Automatix'?
[01:26] <Warbo> b14ck: To unmount something use "sudo umount deviceORmountpoint" you can only mount something once at a time (although you can access it in many places with "mount --bind")
[01:26] <chr1s_> is there not an automatix package for K7?
[01:27] <eric__> no not yet
[01:27] <dayspring> wastrel: I typed ./configure, then make, then make install
[01:27] <gizmo_the_great1> eric - Automatix installs a load of codecs etc that help you play a lot of stuff. I'd try that
[01:27] <dayspring> wastrel: was the right?
[01:27] <wastrel> dayspring:  when you did make install - did you use sudo?
[01:28] <gizmo_the_great1> eric_ : http://www.getautomatix.com/
[01:28] <green_earz> Drake_: i look at my cat /var/log/auth.log  and the same thing, and its now bugging me to . some thing some doing it. where ?
[01:28] <Jemt> What are the odds that I can install ie MySQL 5, Java 1.5/5, Bluefish 1.4 among others from Dapper Repositories on Breezy ?
[01:28] <cls2> Can someone help me with networking on drake?
[01:28] <Jemt> Is there some way I can check whether it is possible, or do a test and afterwards test it ?
[01:28] <b14ck> Warbo: so it is allready mounted but where all the partitions and  cd/dvd are listed ,i can't access it or mount it and it gives me the mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda8 is already mounted on /
[01:28] <b14ck> mount failed
[01:28] <Jemt> cls2: Just ask your question :)
[01:28] <Madpilot> Jemt, for Bluefish, I'm guessing "not good" - for the rest, I'm not sure
[01:28] <cls2> Ok
[01:28] <sam1001> anyone done any compiling work on ubuntu?
[01:29] <dayspring> wastrel: I typed ./configure, then make as normal user!  and then i typed: sudo make install
[01:29] <dayspring> wastrel: was the right?
[01:29] <Jemt> Madpilot: Why ?
[01:29] <Warbo> b14ck: By the way, you DID change the mountpoint in that new fstab line right?
[01:29] <tobberoth> sam1001: Depends. I compiled tptest for my comp.
[01:29] <dayspring> wastrel: was that right?
[01:29] <cls2> I installed drake, everything went fine, but it won't grab an ip address.
[01:29] <Madpilot> Jemt, because Bluefish has a fair number of dependancies w/ Gnome, and Dapper has a new version of Gnome
[01:29] <cls2> I tried rebooting the DSL modem
[01:29] <wastrel> dayspring:  that seems right
[01:29] <shuffle> I installed bomb to my sfinktr
[01:29] <shuffle> hi
[01:29] <Jemt> Madpilot: Oh, I see
[01:29] <Jemt> Madpilot: Thanks
[01:29] <cls2> It's going through ethernet, not usb.
[01:29] <shuffle> is it right?
[01:29] <Graig> hello, are lots of people having problems with the latest kernel update still?
[01:29] <wastrel> dayspring:  how do you know it's not running the newer version
[01:29] <shuffle> it's going thru anus
[01:29] <shuffle> dude
[01:29] <Jemt> !tell cls2 about enter
[01:30] <b14ck> Warbo:  in fstab "/dev/hda8       /               ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[01:30] <NthDegree> problems? i haven't had any with the latest kernel
[01:30] <shuffle> !tell anus about shit shipment
[01:30] <Jemt> !shit shipment
[01:30] <ubotu> Jemt: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:30] <Jemt> Heh
[01:30] <chr1s_> My X server keeps crashing now that I've installed a K7 kernel... any ideas?
[01:30] <sam1001> tobberoth,do you know any differences there are between VS' c++ compiler and gnu's?
[01:30] <Warbo> b14ck: Change that "/" to wherever you want it put (like "/media/hda8" or whatever)
[01:30] <cls2> Sorry, didn't know it was doing it.
[01:30] <Madpilot> Jemt, any reason you can't just upgrade the Breezy install to Dapper?
[01:30] <eric__> sorryi had a phone call
[01:30] <Drake_> green_earz: I am not sure which cron job is calling it though I do know that there is a entry in crontab that I am assuming is being called  on the 17th minute of every hour 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[01:31] <tobberoth> sam1001: Sorry no Idea, I've only used GCC.
[01:31] <aesxa> Hi. I'd like to use kuickshow on dapper. How can I do this
[01:31] <Jemt> Madpilot: Dapper crashes (freezes) 1-3 times a day - a problem which many Dapper users experience
[01:31] <dayspring> wastrel: because it says this:  This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated.! Engine version: 0.87.1
[01:31] <b14ck> Warbo: ooo that must be it thanx again
[01:31] <Warbo> aesxa: "sudo apt-get install kuickshow" then choose it as a default for JPEG/PNG/Whatever
[01:31] <Madpilot> Jemt, not here - sounds like hardware trouble
[01:31] <dayspring> wastrel: the latest is 0.88
[01:31] <dayspring> wastrel: what can I do?
[01:31] <Jeruvy> so why would running aptitude over ssh kill my nic card?
[01:31] <Graig> Jemt: were those people having crashing problems before or after the current patches,  currently it's really stable for me.
[01:31] <Jeruvy> so why would running aptitude over ssh kill my nic card?
[01:32] <Jemt> Madpilot: It's not. Drivers maybe
[01:32] <sam1001> my program compiled and runs fine in VS, but in ubuntu, it compiled but the program did not work
[01:32] <aesxa> Warbo, doesn't work, it's not in Dapper, and when I try to compile it complains that it can't find Qt, even when I specify the location.
[01:32] <larson9999> Warbo: i couldn't get kuickshow to work with dapper.  there's a blurb on the net about it not playing nice with dapper
[01:32] <Warbo> aesxa: compile? Why not use apt for the binary one?
[01:32] <Jemt> Graig: No idea. But check the forums - there is alot of major bugs in Dapper
[01:32] <aesxa> Warbo, again, because it's not in dapper, and the older ones don't work because it can't resolve some dependency
[01:32] <Jemt> That's why I want to downgrade to Breezy
[01:33] <Madpilot> Jemt, fun... Dapper's been as stable as Breezy here
[01:33] <larson9999> Warbo: kuickshow is not in any of the dapper repositories.  at least it wasn't yesterday
[01:33] <wastrel> dayspring:  it seems like your /usr/local/bin/clamscan is the old one  - i'd try to find where the new one was installed.   did the  sudo make install   command have any output messages?
[01:33] <Warbo> larson9999: I used it in Dapper's pre-beta stages because of it's cool mousewheel=change image feature, but then noticed that GNOME's picture viewer got big Forward and Back buttons
[01:33] <Jemt> Madpilot: Well, again, it is probably a driver issue :)
[01:33] <Graig> well i guess i will install these 90 some updates and see how it's going.  cause right now, it's perfectly stable without the updates.
[01:33] <Jemt> Thanks anyways, guys
[01:33] <larson9999> Warbo: yeah, that's why i use it too.  but i can't get it to work with dapper
[01:33] <Jemt> Guess I'll haft to compile MySQL 5 myself
[01:34] <aesxa> plus I just like compiling things sometimes. : ) but I figured this was a pretty high-demand program so people would know how to get it to work, or if we just have to wait.
[01:34] <Madpilot> Jemt, yeah, if you're going to stick w/ Breezy, you're stuck compiling mysql5 too
[01:34] <dayspring> wastrel: Making install in libclamav
[01:34] <dayspring> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/lisa/download/clamav-0.88.2/libclamav'
[01:34] <dayspring> make[2] : Entering directory `/home/lisa/download/clamav-0.88.2/libclamav'
[01:34] <Graig> hmm, thats odd there are less updates than when i checked earlier??
[01:34] <Jemt> Madpilot: Yep
[01:34] <Warbo> I have kuickshow in front of me now (the package must still be left from before it was removed)
[01:34] <Jemt> !tell dayspring about pastebin
[01:34] <cls2> My ethernet card won't get an ip address through dhcp on a dsl modem.
[01:34] <Graig> earlier today, i had 90 updates, diddn't install them, and now there are 79?
[01:34] <wastrel> dayspring:  don't paste in here - use pastebin
[01:34] <Graig> did they pull some updates?
[01:34] <dayspring> wastrel: Libraries have been installed in:
[01:34] <dayspring>    /usr/local/lib
[01:34] <larson9999> Warbo: kuickshow is the best seemingly lightweight viewer i've seen that scrolls by the wheel.
[01:34] <dayspring> wastrel: ok
[01:35] <cls2> It's a fresh install, no updates.
[01:35] <green_earz> Drake_:  its calling cron every hourly but there no job to do, so its makes a log of the call but no job to do
[01:35] <dayspring> wastrel: thats what it said!  any ideas where its been placed?
[01:35] <eric__> ok i suck with computer - how do i upgrade to dapper
[01:35] <Graig> oh, 95 megs, i think i must have been looking at the megs, not the number of updates.
[01:35] <roostishaw> is it possible to make a cluster by connecting an old computer running ubuntu to this one (running ubuntu also)? would this help with day-to-day use? im just looking for a way to use my old comp...
[01:35] <eric__> i am at the page someone listed above
[01:35] <Jemt> cls2: Does your card show up in 'ifconfig -a' ?
[01:35] <cls2> Yeah
[01:35] <Madpilot> eric__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades <-- this page?
[01:35] <aesxa> Yeah, I really like Kuickshow. : ( Can you send me that package or something? : ( argh.
[01:35] <wastrel> dayspring:  those were all the messages?  it doesn't seem that a new binary was installed.  - not that i know anything about clamscan...
[01:35] <cls2> It shows up in ifconfig as well as the dialogue.
[01:35] <Warbo> aesxa: Do you have the "-dev" packages for QT installed? They are usually needed to compile stuff
[01:36] <cls2> dhclient doesn't grab an ip address even after reboot the modem.
[01:36] <eric__> yeah that page
[01:36] <aesxa> Warbo, yeah, I installed all the KDE/Qt dev packages I could find.
[01:36] <Jemt> cls2: Hm, very weird indeed. Maybe a driver problem - don't think I can help you with that
[01:36] <cls2> Think the kernel update might be a fix?
[01:36] <Drake_> green_earz: you are saying that because it is calling a cron every hour at a certain minute of the hour it is making a log of it in /var/log/auth.log? That seems like a strange place to be logging a cron job that is actually doing nothing
[01:36] <green_earz> Drake_: the calls are at 17 pass the hour
[01:36] <dayspring> wastrel: now you tell me you have NO CLUE! LOL
[01:36] <eric__> when i installed breezy i updated and it said dapper was available but i don't know how to get it
[01:36] <dayspring> wastrel: why didnt you tell me you are a begginer to Linux?
[01:37] <cls2> If so, how do I download the update through windows?
[01:37] <boabsta> raaaagh, okay i've looked and looked and googled and just cant find what plugin I need for K3B to burn VCDs
[01:37] <khaladan> hey, through Gnome's screen resolution setting, it seems I am locked in at 640x480 at 60 Hz.  i know i can do better than this!  how?
[01:37] <bbrazil> Drake_: cron uses PAM, which is auth
[01:37] <Madpilot> dayspring, there are no Linux viruses anyway - why bother with clamav?
[01:37] <Warbo> aesxa: It seems that I've apt-get cleaned my packages a few times since last getting kuickshow, so no packages :(
[01:37] <bbrazil> Madpilot: eh, there are linux viruses
[01:37] <aesxa> Warbo, that's ok, thanks anyway man. : )
[01:37] <wastrel> dayspring:  i'm not a beginner w/ linux, i just don't use clamav
[01:37] <Madpilot> bbrazil, not out of the lab there aren't, afaik...
[01:38] <boabsta> khaladan: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:38] <bbrazil> Madpilot: nothing widespread, but they exist
[01:38] <bobesponja> what is the default mysql user on ubuntu?
[01:38] <mumbles> question , i have had to reinstall windows, how do i get the grub loading scheme back?
[01:39] <dayspring> Madpilot: because I send attachments, etc to MS window users and want to protect them
[01:39] <aerojava> hey,  someone have listened about Ubuntu Rex?
[01:39] <eric__> how do i tell what version of ubuntu i have?
[01:39] <dayspring> wastrel: what do you use to check emails etc for virus?
[01:39] <eric__> maybe i did upgrade
[01:39] <Warbo> dayspring: Protect the attachments with GPG :)
[01:39] <dayspring> wastrel: how can I totally remove clamscan?
[01:39] <Madpilot> eric__, system menu->About Ubuntu
[01:39] <dayspring> Warbo: not all MS windows use it
[01:39] <XiXaQ> Is it better to use Skype or Ekiga if I want to be able to call normal phones and other computers?
[01:39] <Warbo> dayspring: I was joking about "protect them"
[01:39] <larson9999> the new dosbox was quite i bit of improvement
[01:40] <aerojava> someone have listened about Ubuntu Rex?
[01:40] <eric__> i did that
[01:40] <dayspring> Warbo: oh really?
[01:40] <eric__> it doesnt tell
[01:40] <rixth> AHHHH. I have checked Preferences->Sound and the 'Login' sound is only set for login. All other events have 'No Sound' yet I keep hearing the freakin login tune everytime I click a control. I have even moved /usr/share/sounds/login.wav to another location and I STILL hear it.
[01:40] <Madpilot> aerojava, Ubuntu what?
[01:40] <wastrel> dayspring:  i don't - linux doesn't really suffer from a virus problem.
[01:40] <dayspring> Warbo: dont give up your dayjob :)
[01:40] <dayspring> wastrel: you dont listen :)
[01:40] <Drake_> green_earz: I am guessing that those entries in crontab are there by default the hourly one is on the 17th minute the daily cron is 6 hour and 25 minute the weekly cron is the 6 hour and 47th minute and 7th day of week and the monthly cron is 1st day of the month there 52 minute of the 6th hour....wtf...where did those off the cuff times come from?
[01:40] <wastrel> dayspring:  sudo make uninstall, if the install script has an uninstall option.
[01:40] <h3xis> I have Ubuntu running on a server and I'm wanting to remove some excess packages that I have no use for to free up some space. Whenever I try to apply any changes in Synaptic it tells me that I need to resolve 2 broken packages. How do I find out which packages are broken?
[01:41] <dayspring> wastrel:  listen carefully this time :)  I KNOW Linux is ok from virus HOWEVER I want to make sure I dont send any virus along to my MS Window users
[01:41] <eric__> i went to about ubuntu buit it just tells me "about" it like the project
[01:41] <green_earz> Drake_: cat /etc/crontab  and 17 *    * * *   root    run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly  then > Jun 17 00:17:01 localhost CRON[16358] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root
[01:42] <FlimFlamMan> dayspring, why are you feeding people bogus information in the official ubuntu support channel?
[01:42] <Songster52> Hello...I have installed Breezy on a computer and need to update the update manager. can someone tell me how to do this?
[01:42] <boabsta> whats the best way to burn VCDs so you can play them on a DVD player?
[01:42] <Drake_> dayspring: well the positive note is that you would have to purposely mail your friends the virus because there aren't any in the wild viruses that would cause your linux box to automatically mail out the viruses like outlook or such do
[01:42] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: dont falsely accuse me
[01:43] <eric__> madpilot: it didnt work
[01:43] <dayspring> Drake_: ok! so you dont use clamscan or any antivirus program?
[01:43] <b14ck> how can i permanently change the read write permissions of a partition?
[01:43] <FlimFlamMan> dayspring, you told me my disk was hosed because the "partitions weren't in disk order", told me i needed a new hard drive and to try the install again.  all false.
[01:43] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: why are you feeding people bogus and false information about certain people?
[01:43] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: you heard what you wanted to hear
[01:43] <hd420> where does the mplayer package store codecs?
[01:44] <Warbo> hd420: /usr/lib/codecs
[01:44] <eric__> ok thanks those who helped me i guess im on my own now
[01:44] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: stop acting like a crybaby and grow up for once
[01:44] <Songster52> I have installed Breezy on a computer and need to update the update manager. can someone tell me how to do this?
[01:44] <Drake_> green_earz: I get the same entry it is very strange times that are set for hourly, daily, weekly and monthly cronjobs
[01:44] <Rendo> Anyone got the pwnt knowledge of the livecd?  The GUI doesn't seem to work and I want to show the mother in law the awesomeisity of Ubuntu.
[01:44] <dayspring> Songster52: why do you need to update the update manager?
[01:44] <Madpilot> Songster52, you mean you want to upgrade to 6.06, or what?
[01:44] <green_earz> Drake_: some like 6 oclock in the morning for the cron jobs, its the business world, before peaple get to work the server clean the log jobs
[01:45] <hd420> Warbo: I need only untar the codecs.tar.bz2 file from mplayer.org to make things work right?
[01:45] <hd420> under /usr/lib/codecs?
[01:45] <Songster52> because I DO want to upgrade to 6.06.. the update manager says there are no upgrades
[01:45] <b14ck> Warbo:  how can i change the read/write settings for the partition because it's read only and i want to make it like always rw
[01:45] <Rendo> Songster52: Manually edit your sources.lst and change Breezy to Dapper
[01:46] <Warbo> hd420: Should do (I have copied dlls from WINE's windows/system32 directory to /usr/lib/codecs after installling Windows codec packs and they worked fine)
[01:46] <khaladan> hey, i have gdm running as the greeter... is there any way I can tell gdm to log in as a certain user remotely?
[01:46] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I'm finally back. I did the modprobe stuff. splay still won't play. Is there another step?
[01:46] <zhenre> does any one know how to do the equivalent of an autoexec.bat in ubuntu...I want to run a dns updating program everytime the computer boots
[01:46] <zhenre> it might be nice to have it run every once in a while automatically as well
[01:46] <dayspring> Songster52: it will say it at top
[01:46] <Songster52> ok.. will look for that and change it
[01:46] <eric__> ok im back i cant do it on my own
[01:47] <BIAF> can i apt-get perl does anyone know?
[01:47] <dayspring> Songster52: order the Dapper CD from the website ;)
[01:47] <Madpilot> Songster52, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Songster52: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list (will also make a backup)
[01:47] <wastrel> BIAF:  perl should be installed by default
[01:47] <gavagai> zhenre, you want cron
[01:47] <Drake_> green_earz: yes I would figure that but why by default 6:25 daily, 6:47 on the 7th day of the week for weekly cron, 6:25 on the first day of the month
[01:47] <eric__> everytime i try to get some thing it says "not installable only a universe somehting"
[01:47] <Rendo> eric__ Enable the other repositories
[01:47] <Songster52> I think I will get the CDs.. just impatient, I guess
[01:47] <BIAF> wastrel : what path should it be in do you know as default
[01:47] <FlimFlamMan> dayspring, why did you say my hard drive was trashed when it wasn't?
[01:48] <eric__> rendo: then will they work like normal?
[01:48] <Rendo> Songster52: I upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 jsut fine without the cds.
[01:48] <theine> BIAF: /usr/bin/perl
[01:48] <wastrel> BIAF:  /usr/bin/perl
[01:48] <Warbo> b14ck: If you are the only one on the computer then in /etc/fstab in the line for your partition it should look like: /dev/hda8 /wherever  ext2 defaults,rw,uid=yourusername 0 0" (where /whatever is your mount point and yourusername is your Linux username)
[01:48] <Songster52> actually I d/l the dapper.. but it brings me to the $ prompt and I am lost after that
[01:48] <Rendo> eric__ If whatever package you're looking for is under those ones, yes.
[01:48] <wastrel> perl -e 'print "hi\n";'
[01:48] <Madpilot> Songster52, check the URL I just gave you - you can upgrade Breezy to Dapper fairly easiily
[01:48] <eric__> rendo: k ill try it thanks
[01:48] <Madpilot> easily, even
[01:48] <crimsun_> Draconicus: what parameter did you pass to modprobe?
[01:48] <Warbo> b14ck: Also forget the " after the second 0
[01:49] <b14ck> Warbo:  will do :P
[01:49] <Rendo> Has anyone ran into issues with the live cd for 5.10 or any version for that matter not displaying a GUI?
[01:49] <Songster52> thanks Madpilot... at that page now
[01:49] <cute_bettong> !restricted
[01:49] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[01:49] <larson9999> drm :(
[01:50] <Shirow> has anyone here got ubuntu livecd to boot into x using an ati x800xl and a widescreen lcd?
[01:50] <GTX> how do I upgrade Breezy Server to Dapper Server?
[01:51] <Rendo> GTX: Yell at it a lot and sometimes it does.
[01:51] <chapium> alright people i have a challenge
[01:51] <Trite> for some reason, when I try to install ubuntu on my computer it doesn't go past the step where I mount on step 5/6.....would someone message me?
[01:51] <GTX> lol Rendo :D
[01:51] <Rendo> gtx:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:51] <GTX> Its in a datacentre Rendo, So it wont hear me :(
[01:51] <Shirow> because I am having a really hard time 1) getting x to even work and 2) getting x to work at a widescreen resolution
[01:51] <anfangs> I want to add things to my fluxbox menu. how do i open the file '~/.fluxbox/menu'? I don't know what ~/. means
[01:51] <beet0l> problem: i broke sudo, now I can't get root to fix it!
[01:51] <GTX> ta
[01:51] <green_earz> Drake_: on debian sarge its 17mins cron.hourly | 25mins 6 cron.daily | 47mins  6 cron.weekly | 52mins  6 cron.monthly
[01:51] <beet0l> any ideas?
[01:51] <Trite> anyone?
[01:51] <Rendo> beet01: How'd you break sudo? :o
[01:51] <Shirow> the only way I can get x to boot is to use the vesa driver instead of the ati driver, and when i use the vesa driver it won't recognize my 1680x1050 resolution and will onyl work at 1280x1024
[01:52] <Trite> would someone help?
[01:52] <Rendo> 1 second trite
[01:52] <Rendo> I need to register my nick for pm :/
[01:53] <wastrel> beet0l:  reboot into rescue mode
[01:53] <chapium> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a mac that already has ubuntu on it.  I don't know the pw, but its irrelevant since I'm wiping the drive anyways.  The problem is the Dapper Live CD has a bug that wont allow the kernel to work with older macs.  Supposedly the updated kernels work.  The kernel image already on the mac does work.  Can I boot the live cd and use the kernel thats on the hd?
[01:53] <beet0l> rendo: made an error in /etc/sudoers
[01:53] <Drake_> green_earz: ahhh those are such "weird" pseudo random times
[01:54] <Trite> oh
[01:54] <Warbo> chapium: Stupid question, but you have the ppc version right?
[01:54] <chapium> yep
[01:54] <dayspring> FlimFlamMan: you heard what you wanted to hear!  Now stop acting like a big crybaby and grow up
[01:54] <nickrud> Shirow, there's a relevant bug I think: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/45768
[01:54] <chapium> i used the same disc on another mac and it worked fine :D
[01:54] <gavagai> chapium, just upgrade, don't do a fresh install from a live cd
[01:54] <app> I installed on a laptop and GRUB has now menu entry for my first partition Windows. What is the easiest way to fix this?
[01:54] <chapium> gavagai: i would upgrade if i knew the password
[01:55] <jinho326> hi I installed a program using make install, but I want to reinstall it- do I have to then uninstall the program- and if so how do I go about doing that?
[01:55] <Rendo> Trite: Check your private messages.
[01:55] <gavagai> chapium, what about booting to single user mode
[01:55] <Trite> rendo
[01:55] <Trite> I am
[01:55] <Shirow> nickrud, interesting, thanks for that link
[01:55] <Trite> are you not getting them?
[01:55] <chapium> gavagai: how?  off the live cd?
[01:55] <Trite> do I have to register my nick?
[01:55] <Rendo> You needto register.
[01:55] <Rendo> ./msg nickserv register <your-password>
[01:55] <Trite> kk
[01:55] <xanavim> app: edit grub's menu.lst file and change the default number
[01:55] <gavagai> chapium, from grub there should be a way to boot into linux single
[01:55] <Dreamglider> does anyone use xmms ?
[01:55] <Rendo> I do.
[01:55] <Dreamglider> ok
[01:55] <gavagai> i have gotten into boxes that way before
[01:56] <jshriver> Greetings
[01:56] <gavagai> i'm not sure how ubuntu behaves in single user mode though, i'm a recent convert
[01:56] <Dreamglider> you know where i can find equ presets ?
[01:56] <jshriver> how do I stop Totem from trying to play a DVD when I put it in?
[01:56] <gavagai> but if you can boot linux single then you'll have root access usually and can change the passwords
[01:56] <Rendo> Not sure, not on my ubuntu machine right now.
[01:56] <wastrel> gavagai:  there's a rescue setting in grub by default
[01:56] <Warbo> jshriver: Preferences>Removable Drives And Media
[01:56] <jinho326> how do I uninstall something without using synaptic?
[01:56] <wastrel> gavagai:  beet0l just hit escape when first booting to see the grub list and choose the rescue/recovery line.
[01:56] <crimsun_> jshriver: System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media> Removable Storage
[01:57] <chapium> gavagai: right,so I can gain root on any ubuntu computer from the boot prompt?  I doubt it
[01:57] <jshriver> hrm? I dont want it to stop auto-mounting, just want it to stop auto-loading totem.
[01:57] <gavagai> chapium, i can get root on any ubuntu computer i have physical access to, with few excpetions
[01:57] <gavagai> physical access = root
[01:57] <khaladan> hey, i have gdm running as the greeter... is there any way I can tell gdm to log in as a certain user remotely?
[01:57] <beet0l> wastrel, thanks im in
[01:57] <wastrel> chapium:  have you checked your /boot/grub/menu.lst  there's a default setting for "recovery" mode
[01:58] <xanavim> chapium: do you mean grub or gdm?
[01:58] <jshriver> nvm lol changing :)
[01:58] <xanavim> chapium: in grub you can boot as root by default "recovery mode"
[01:59] <eric__> ok, still cant install and run any program
[01:59] <eric__> says i need to rename real player on desktop to install
[02:00] <eric__> can change it b/c there is a "/" in the name
[02:00] <nickrud> Shirow, I was helping someone with similar problems earlier, no success. I also see reports that if you install the fglrx driver it does work
[02:00] <Warbo> eric__: There is a repo for realplayer which I use
[02:00] <nickrud> !fglrx
[02:00] <eric__> warbo: how do i get that
[02:01] <Warbo> eric__: In Synaptic go on Settings>Repositories and Add then Custom and put "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main"
[02:03] <ardy> help how to enable proxy authentication in browser?
[02:03] <Rendo> ardy: Options->Preferences
[02:05] <ardy> Rendo, what I mean is to configure squid.conf to enable squid popup window to do authentication.
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> To anyone who heard me mumbling about VPN and pptp problems earlier... it appears that a firmware upgrade for my Linksys router has fixed the problem.
[02:06] <eric__> warbo: i dont know what synaptic is
[02:07] <Warbo> eric__: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager (how everything should be installed)
[02:08] <eric__> warbo: maybe that was my problem with realplayer
[02:08] <calisee> Anyone have a link to a how to for setting up a VPN
[02:08] <ardy> help how to setup a simple squid configuration ?
[02:09] <Warbo> eric__: Just search for whatever you want in Synaptic and mark it for installation then apply the changes. If something is not in Ubuntu (like realplayer) then add a new repository (like the one I gave you)
[02:09] <chapium> gavagai: wow you are right... i went right into root
[02:09] <Rendo> Has anyone ever ran into a problem with the GUI not showing up after a LIVECD boot?
[02:09] <Draconicus> crimsun_: dsp_map=2
[02:09] <chapium> gavagai++
[02:09] <boabsta> okay anyone here actually burn there own video CDs/DVDs??
[02:10] <crimsun_> Draconicus: and adsp_map?
[02:10] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: Funny you should ask...  I just started using a pptp VPN, and I used these instructions: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[02:10] <Rendo> boabsta: I do, but not in linux.
[02:10] <gavagai> chapium, you're welcome!
[02:10] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: Thanks, did it work out for you?
[02:10] <boabsta> it worked fine with gentoo but i dont know how with Ubuntu, ffmpeg and mencoder both segfault near the end
[02:11] <boabsta> Rendo: thanks, v helpfull ;)
[02:11] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Oh. I didn't see you specify the use of adsp_map. Lemme redo that.
[02:11] <app> I have Pointsec hard disk encryption. I installed Ubuntu. GRUB had no menu entry for Windows. I fixed that by editing menu.lst. Now I can "boot Windows", and it launches Pointsec, but Pointsec re-launches GRUB, when it tries to launch Windows.  So I can not boot to Windows anymore!!!
[02:11] <Rendo> Boabsta: My machine at home isn't good enough for encoding and DVD movie burnage, would take 12 hours to do one.  The wife's machine, using windows *gag* is decent enough to, so I use it on that.   Until I get my new PC I'm stuck doing a few things on XP still. :/
[02:11] <boabsta> but its worth a try - copy the avi over to my windows box and burn it from there, probably be much easier than this linux thing
[02:12] <boabsta> :)
[02:12] <Rendo> Oh, probably.
[02:12] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Still nothing.
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: I still figuring out how well it works.  I ran into some strange behavior a few minutes ago, but it that seems to have been fixed by giving my DSL router a firmware upgrade.
[02:12] <boabsta> lol
[02:12] <Draconicus> crimsun_: I did =2 for both of them
[02:12] <Rendo> I mainly just do family video and what not.  nothing serious but good memories. :D
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> s/I/I'm/
[02:12] <crimsun_> Draconicus: hmm. Then it's probably still outputting to card0
[02:12] <eric__> this makes absolutely no sense to me
[02:12] <Rendo> What's wrong eric__?
[02:12] <eric__> i have no idea what i am doing
[02:12] <Rendo> What are you looking for?
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: ...but I am using it as we speak :)
[02:13] <crimsun_> Draconicus: can you wrap splay with aoss?  (install 'alsa-oss' from universe, then ``aoss splay $args'')
[02:13] <eric__> warbo is trying to help me install files
[02:13] <eric__> but i am hopeless
[02:13] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: Cool, gonna try to set it up so I can log into my university's VPN
[02:13] <Rendo> What files?
[02:13] <Rendo> We all are hopeless when we first start.
[02:13] <Rendo> None of us were l337 d00ds.
[02:13] <theine> I was ;)
[02:13] <eric__> i need a program to play dvd's and would like some IM programs as well
[02:13] <Rendo> Oh shut up. :P
[02:13] <app> Is there a way to restore the MBR in Grub, like there is in LILO?
[02:14] <Rendo> eric__ Gaim already comes pre-installed.  It can do basically all IM clients, icq, yahoo, aol, msn etc etc.
[02:14] <boabsta> eric__: stick with windows and it will work out of the box ;)
[02:14] <LjL> crimsun_: would you by chance have a hint as to while "program1 <pipe1 >pipe2", and in another shell "program2 >pipe1 <pipe2", don't work or work very erratically (i.e. i have to start "echoing" stuff to the pipes before they work) for making the programs communicate bi-directionally?
[02:14] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: But the instruction are specifically for the pptp protocol.  (But don't expect me to answer any technical questions about what that means.)
[02:14] <Draconicus> crimsun_: That works.
[02:14] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: what is the command to run the client
[02:14] <eric__> boabsta: i didnt have an OS this was my only option...it was freee
[02:14] <theine> eric__: Have you tried Gaim for your IM needs? It should be included by default.
[02:14] <Rendo> eric__ Pirate, yarrr!
[02:14] <eric__> i saw it but didnt know it would work for that
[02:15] <Rendo> It does eric.
[02:15] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: Did you take a look at the HowTo?
[02:15] <theine> boabsta: Since when does DVD playing work out of the box in Windows?
[02:15] <cstrippie> theine - it doesn't
[02:15] <boabsta> theine: please dont take me seriously mate
[02:15] <eric__> thanks
[02:15] <eric__> now how do i play dvdsi would like realplayer
[02:15] <eric__> but can't seem to get it
[02:15] <cstrippie> But most don't get the difference between windows and the software installed by the manufacturer of the computer.
[02:15] <larson9999> anyone have any idea why the ubuntu live cd says it can't find a hd when currently there is one dual booting xp and mandriva?
[02:15] <Mike-X2> hi all
[02:15] <ericz> how do you change the default runlevel?
[02:15] <LjL> !realplayer
[02:15] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:15] <Rendo> !tell eric__ about easyubuntu
[02:16] <cafuego> theine: Depends on your definition of "out of the box". Most boxes from dell/hp etc play DVDs just fine.
[02:16] <larson9999> i'd like to replace mandriva with ubuntu on that drive
[02:16] <eric__> i have a dell
[02:16] <Rendo> You fool!
[02:16] <alexi5> hello
[02:16] <Rendo> Dell's are the devil/.
[02:16] <eric__> haha
[02:16] <theine> cafuego, I had a fresh Windows install in mind
[02:16] <eric__> i got it off ebay for cheap
[02:16] <Mike-X2> HEARD
[02:16] <Draconicus> High end Dells are pretty nice. Low end dells are pretty "OH DEAR GOD!"
[02:16] <cstrippie> eric - which dell?  I had some real boot problems with the CD on my XPS latppie
[02:16] <Mike-X2> dell sucks
[02:16] <Rendo> Any Dell sucks.
[02:16] <cafuego> theine: You need to be a pretty advanced computer user to have ever seen one of those ;-)
[02:16] <eric__> i got a C610
[02:16] <Draconicus> I disagree.
[02:17] <squiggly> Dell's are great, don't bash them
[02:17] <Rendo> Custom built = cheaper more reliable and not bloated with crap.
[02:17] <eric__> mine was only $200
[02:17] <cafuego> Dells are on topic in #ubuntu-offtopic. So is bashing them.
[02:17] <alexi5> why doesit take so long  transfer files from my windows machine to ubuntu using samba .is there any way to tweak its performance
[02:17] <cstrippie> This is my 3rd dell, the hardware has been great, but he support sucks serious b*lls these days.
[02:17] <Mike-X2> lol
[02:17] <squiggly> heh rendo... building your computer is definitely not cheaper than buying it prebuilt
[02:17] <Warbo> eric__: Click the little writing thing at the top left of the screen which says "System" and some more writing will magically appear. Put the little arrow thing over "Administration" and more magical writing. Now click on Synaptic Package Manager. Put in your password (your normal user's password) then when it comes up click on "Settings" at the top (more magical writing) then "Repositories", now "Add" and there is a little b
[02:17] <squiggly> you've never built your own machine, huh?
[02:18] <xanavim> cstrippie: why does the support suck?
[02:18] <cafuego> squiggly: It is if you insist on the same quality components in the prebuilt one. By a lot.
[02:18] <squiggly> and bloated with crap hardly counts for anything, my dell had only a few things preinstalled and they were easy to get rid of
[02:18] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: what was the error you were getting before your firmware upgrade
[02:18] <Rendo> squiggly: Yes it is. ;)
[02:18] <Mike-X2> nice looking forward to change to XUBUNTU on my 3800 X2
[02:18] <squiggly> It's what you pay for, for a cheaper machine
[02:18] <Warbo> Home made systems used to be cheaper, since store bought were like 1000, but now they are only around 300 and are pretty high spec
[02:18] <cafuego> squiggly: Then don't compare apples with pears.
[02:18] <Rendo> Squiggly: Custom built for low end dells, of course you can't compare, high end? You can crush the price difference.
[02:18] <squiggly> cafuego, look up one of the mid-end machines available on dell and compare prices
[02:19] <siriusnova> howdy
[02:19] <alexi5> can anyone help me
[02:19] <theine> eric__: For DVD playing, you need an encryption library. For that, open http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.5-1_i386.deb in firefox
[02:19] <siriusnova> anyone here having problems with Suspend and Hibernation with the new kernel?
[02:19] <squiggly> batched with what you pay for shipping, tax, and labor, it comes out about even
[02:19] <ericz> how do i change my default runlevel?
[02:19] <larson9999> yeah, it almost doesn't pay to build a machine these days
[02:19] <cafuego> squiggly: I know, but they still use fairly medium quality components.
[02:19] <siriusnova> I have a Thinkpad T30
[02:19] <siriusnova> :(
[02:19] <crimsun_> siriusnova: yes, anyone with an SATA HD is.
[02:19] <squiggly> Medium quality?
[02:19] <siriusnova> crimsun - the thinkpad T30 doesnt have an sata harddrive
[02:19] <cafuego> Sure I cna build a Celeron/SiS/realtek box for $nothing, but I don't *want* one of those.
[02:19] <squiggly> I haven't had a dell fail on me since ever, and I've used their 3000 and 2300(? something) series
[02:19] <siriusnova> at least i dont think it does
[02:19] <Warbo> larson9999: Not even for Dell?
[02:20] <OSIndependence> Good bye, #Ubuntu!!!
[02:20] <theine> crimsun_: I'm fairly sure that I don't have SATA but I nevertheless have the same problem
[02:20] <cstrippie> xanavim - Hold times are stupid long, the technicians are poorly trained and even more poorly motivated, Occasionally I get one I can't even understand, and they invariably follow a script even when THEY acknowledge it will do no good.  Top all this off with listening to ads while on hold (sure, I wanna buy more of your stuff while I'm stuck here with stuff I bought that doesn't work)...it's too much
[02:20] <squiggly> realtek? SiS? lol?
[02:20] <eric__> warbo: there is a little...?
[02:20] <squiggly> so they have integrated components, are you looking for >100mbps transfer?
[02:20] <larson9999> Warbo: i'm thinking dell's making a little money.
[02:20] <Rendo> Dell makes good money.
[02:20] <cafuego> squiggly: Sometimes, yes.
[02:20] <EnsignRedshirt> calisee: I was using the GUI program pptpconfig (which I installed from the repository described in the HowTo).  It seemed to work a few times, but then whenever I tried to start a tunnel, it would start sending hundreds of thousands of packets.  No internet connections would work then.
[02:21] <squiggly> If you're looking for a low end machine, then thats what dell sells you
[02:21] <squiggly> and you buy it, I don't know why you guys are complaining
[02:21] <Rendo> That's all that Dell can sell too that's cheaper than building your own.
[02:21] <Mike-X2> anyone there can help on info on shutting down X for GFX-install on 6.06 V
[02:21] <cafuego> squiggly: I am *never* looking for a low end machine.
[02:21] <cstrippie> Squiggly - my $3k XPS laptop is hardly a "low end machine"
[02:21] <Rhyddin> anyone here ever used LDU Seditio on their Apache server?
[02:21] <Rendo> cafuego: Exactly.
[02:21] <cafuego> squiggly: My point is that for high end, building one yourself is invariably cheaper.
[02:21] <EnsignRedshirt> Please, continue the Dell discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:21] <Warbo> eric__: ? I think those instructions (apart from 3 typos) are pretty easy to follow
[02:22] <squiggly> try building your own machine before you say that
[02:22] <cstrippie> KDE finished install - back in a few
[02:22] <app> You know, I am really in trouble, Because of my Pointsec, I lost my Windows when I installed Ubuntu. I am afraid to restore the Windows with installation CD recover and fdisk /mbr, because the original MBR of Poinsec would not be there then...
[02:22] <Rendo> I have.
[02:22] <eric__> warbo: i am sorry i am an idiot with this stuff
[02:22] <calisee> EnsignRedshirt: Oh I am getting a different error
[02:22] <squiggly> i did, and i didn't really get anything out of it besides experience
[02:22] <cafuego> squiggly: Yes, I have. Often.
[02:22] <crimsun_> theine: I see, yeah, according to libata-core.c it affects *ata
[02:22] <squiggly> Really
[02:22] <Rhyddin> I installed apache2, php and mysql and php appears to be working correctly since I can get phpinfo .. but my php pages dont DO anything.
[02:22] <Mike-X2> HEEEELLLPP anyone need help
[02:23] <squiggly> Show me a build that you've done on your own that beats dell's price and uses equal or better parts
[02:23] <crimsun_> theine: I presume you're also using -686?
[02:23] <Warbo> eric__: I wrote that explanation about as dumb as I could make it (the little arrow thing is your mouse pointer if that is confusing you)
[02:23] <theine> crimsun_: I do, yes
[02:23] <crimsun_> guh.
[02:23] <crimsun_> I'm only on net/ for the i386 build.
[02:23] <siriusnova> crimsun - the thinkpad t30 doesnt have sata hd
[02:23] <crimsun_> the i686 build will take another hour or so
[02:23] <crimsun_> siriusnova: right, I've adjusted the report
[02:24] <siriusnova> crimsun - sweet thanks
[02:24] <siriusnova> that was my first bug report
[02:24] <siriusnova> haha
[02:24] <siriusnova> :P
[02:24] <Rhyddin> Ok, is there a channel where I might be able to get some help on this?
[02:24] <crimsun_> siriusnova: I'm build-testing, but my machine is quite slow (only 600 MHz), so it will take a while to generate the i686 kernel.
[02:24] <siriusnova> first bug report ive ever filed for any linux distribution
[02:24] <siriusnova> :P
[02:24] <theine> crimsun_: I would naively think that a bug in libata-core.c would only cause a problem when the libata module is loaded, but I guess I'm wrong?
[02:24] <Mike-X2> is this a chat-room or??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????++
[02:24] <app> If anybody knows anything about restoring Pointsec encrypted Windows after Ubuntu installation, please mail app@iki.fi. I'll go to sleep now and try work with my company support tomorrow.
[02:25] <cavg> algun programa parcido a dvd decrypter?
[02:25] <crimsun_> theine: I can't see any other changes between 23->25 that would trigger it
[02:25] <squiggly> the MPAA doesn't like that cavg
[02:25] <jinho326> /lag
[02:25] <crimsun_> theine: there's a commit that was misplaced order-wise in the function that I've cleaned up; that's what I'm testing.
[02:26] <crimsun_> theine: do you not have libata loaded?
[02:26] <theine> crimsun_: No, I don't
[02:26] <phire> I'm having problem with my resolution in 6.06, I've setup my xorg.conf so it should allow me to set 1152x864 at 75hz, but it is stuck in 1024x768, and I can't change it in 'screen resolution preferences'.. My xorg.conf -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15838
[02:26] <siriusnova> how do i check if libata is loaded?
[02:26] <theine> crimsun_: In fact, no *ata* modules at all
[02:26] <siriusnova> (stupid question i know)
[02:26] <theine> siriusnova: lsmod | grep libata
[02:26] <crimsun_> siriusnova: lsmod |grep ^libata
[02:26] <schalken> how come it keeps asking for my password on the automatic login?
[02:26] <app> Can you higlight keywords is this Gaim IRC client?
[02:26] <crimsun_> theine: where does it hang for you?
[02:27] <siriusnova> i dont have libata loaded
[02:27] <theine> crimsun_: The screen is black, the sleep light is on, but the fan is still running
[02:27] <siriusnova> theine - i have the same problem!
[02:27] <Mike-X2> HEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyy
[02:27] <theine> siriusnova: Cheers mate ;)
[02:27] <siriusnova> lol
[02:27] <crimsun_> siriusnova: yes, that's the same thing everyone is having
[02:28] <siriusnova> hmm but we dont have libata loaded :/
[02:28] <Mike-X2> CANT I get some help here or is this only fucktalkin
[02:28] <Rendo> What do you need help with mike?
[02:28] <Warbo> Mike-X2: You want to turn off X?
[02:28] <Rendo> Asking a question instead of cursing helps.
[02:28] <siriusnova> lol
[02:28] <Mike-X2> peeew at last
[02:28] <gavagai> Mike-X2, you are asking unclear questions and being an annoying jerk.
[02:28] <theine> Mike-X2: It's the latter really
[02:28] <Mike-X2> tyes in deed
[02:28] <gavagai> That's one reason why nobody might be answering.
[02:28] <Mike-X2> yes
[02:29] <gavagai> we aren't your mommy, you don't whine when you want something
[02:29] <Warbo> (bear in mind that I got killed by a terror-sw-us to reply to you)
[02:30] <Mike-X2> well u know linux better than me and i need help dont know how to explane my self in this topic
[02:30] <Warbo> Mike-X2: Reading your question (way) above it looks like you want to stop X. To do that press ctrl-alt-f1 to get into a console, log in and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[02:30] <xanavim> Mike-X2: just reboot
[02:30] <neuro_> helloo
[02:30] <neuro_> i'm twiddled
[02:30] <schalken> neuro_: twiddled?
[02:30] <neuro_> twiddled
[02:31] <Mike-X2> Warbo rgr
[02:31] <schalken> for some reason it has started to ask for my password on the automatic login, why is that?
[02:31] <neuro_> schalken: as in i be drinking ze wine
[02:31] <Rendo> it thinks you're a russian spy.
[02:32] <neuro_> tsk, russian spies
[02:32] <Mike-X2> Warbo: and thx m8
[02:32] <neuro_> they're the words
[02:32] <theine> schalken: That might be the gnome-keyring asking for a password
[02:32] <neuro_> erm, worst
[02:32] <theine> schalken: Are you using network-manager by any chance?
[02:32] <schalken> theine: ohhhh
[02:32] <schalken> theine: network manager? not that i know of.
[02:32] <phire> Could some one help me??
[02:32] <Rendo> With what phire?
[02:32] <phire> I'm having problem with my resolution in 6.06, I've setup my xorg.conf so it should allow me to set 1152x864 at 75hz, but it is stuck in 1024x768, and I can't change it in 'screen resolution preferences'.. My xorg.conf -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15838
[02:33] <Rendo> Someone else help him. :P
[02:33] <neuro_> yeah, mine is a bit chuffed as well
[02:33] <nickrud> schalken, that's a bug, it'll be fixed in the newest gdm
[02:33] <schalken> phire: and System -> Prefrences -> Screen Resolution doesn't work?
[02:33] <neuro_> 60hz locked since dapper dist-upgrade
[02:33] <eric__> warbo: could i have that thing agian? to type into custom...i lost it
[02:34] <Warbo> eric__: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[02:34] <phire> I have the choice of 1024x768 at 70hz only
[02:34] <schalken> nickrud: is there any workaround? can i somehow turn off this keyring thing?
[02:34] <Healot> change monitor spec in xorg setting, neuro_? manually or via dpkg-reconfigure
[02:34] <neuro_> phire: at least you can get 70hz :P
[02:34] <obtix> how do i give a single user complete and full acces to another users home dir forever? thanks..
[02:34] <neuro_> Healot: i didn't actually do anything, just let the upgrade manager magic do its stuff
[02:34] <phire> I did both
[02:34] <nickrud> schalken, it's some pam thing from the changelog, best to leave pam alone unless you know it well
[02:34] <neuro_> i say dist-ugprade out of habit, i used the upgrade manager
[02:35] <vilefridge> Is there a way to find out what Kernel version I have?  I need to download the kernel sources & headers, but all I see avail from Synaptic is 2.4.27.  Is this all I need?
[02:35] <eric__> warbo: i added it now what do i do
[02:35] <schalken> nickrud: whats pam?
[02:35] <neuro_> vilefridge: uname -a
[02:35] <Dial_tone> vilefridge: uname -a
[02:35] <neuro_> man, even drunk i can know stuff
[02:35] <Dial_tone> uname -a works too
[02:35] <Warbo> eric__: Hit "reload" in Synaptic then search for realplayer
[02:35] <neuro_> and if uname -a doesn't work, try uname -a
[02:36] <Warbo> vilefridge: Look for linux-headers not kernel-headers
[02:36] <eric__> warbo: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[02:36] <vilefridge> neuro_, Dial_tone: Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8.  Hrmm, synaptic doesn't have kernel sources for this version?  Would it be ok to get 2.4.27 kernel source??  (I'm trying to install Nforce4 drivers and I'm told I need kernel source)
[02:36] <neuro_> xanavim: lemon, noooooooo
[02:36] <nickrud> schalken, the fix is in the repos now, you need to upgrade
[02:36] <Warbo> eric__: That's OK
[02:37] <Warbo> eric__: (I keep it disabled after installing what I want from it anyway. That stops the error)
[02:37] <schalken> nickrud: oooh it must be that update that i just appeared a minute ago :p
[02:37] <vilefridge> oh nm, i see it's called linux-source :)
[02:37] <nickrud> schalken, I don't know pam well, it's some sort of permission/security thingo
[02:37] <schalken> nickrud: thanks!
[02:37] <antox> hi all. I had upgrade from breezy to dapper and now it seems to be no audio card. what should I do?
[02:38] <neuro_> buy a new one
[02:38] <neuro_> sorry, i kid, i kid
[02:38] <obtix> how do i give a single user complete and full acces to another users home dir forever? thanks..
[02:38] <schalken> neuro_: maybe you should go to bed or something and come back when your sober :p
[02:38] <neuro_> schalken: thrpt
[02:38] <neuro_> obtix: chmod o+rx ~user could work
[02:39] <schalken> neuro_: thrpt?
[02:39] <neuro_> yeah, thrpt
[02:39] <bigfoot1> I am running aptiude for the 1st time in a long time and it says the following packages have been held back: desktop-file-utils gdm gtk2-engines-pixbuf libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-bin libgnomevfs2-common   libgnomevfs2-dev libgnomevfs2-extra libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgtk2.0-dev. Is this a problem? why are they being held back?
[02:39] <neuro_> the noise one's tongue makes when rasping against one's lips
[02:39] <schalken> neuro_: okay...then.
[02:39] <schalken> neuro_: lol okay.
[02:39] <eric__> warbo: thanks a bunch i finally got it
[02:39] <neuro_> bigfoot1: sounds like you need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade to me
[02:40] <bigfoot1> neuro_: ok
[02:40] <eric__> warbo: im not goingto disable it b/c i dont know how - this is complicated enough
[02:40] <bigfoot1> so do you guys recommend aptitude over apt-get everytime?
[02:40] <antox> did anyone have sound issues after upgrading to dapper?
[02:40] <harry> how do you mount the hardisk that just came from windows XP???
[02:40] <bigfoot1> if so, why then is "apt-get" always the command that is suggested here?
[02:40] <apokryphos> bigfoot1: I don't, no.
[02:40] <neuro_> overrated pile of doo doo
[02:40] <Healot> apt-get or aptitude doesn't really matter
[02:40] <neuro_> but that's just my opinion
[02:40] <Kitsune818> Has anyone else had a problem getting wine to recognize libjack?
[02:40] <Warbo> eric__: No problem. You may want to disable that repository now to stop the GPG warning (just untick the box next to it in Settings>Repositories) but I also use it for flashplayer
[02:40] <neuro_> and i'm drunk
[02:40] <neuro_> so what do i knwo
[02:40] <Dial_tone> I use synaptic locally and apt-get from cli
[02:41] <Snowfairy> What do I have to do to make previewing .ogg files in Nautilus work?
[02:41] <Dial_tone> ssh
[02:41] <nickrud> bigfoot1, either the dist-upgrade, or you need to tell aptitude to automatically upgrade installed packages (options -> miscellaneous)
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Healot: it does, or it did, when i installed xubuntu-desktop alongside my ubunu-desktop
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Healot: aptitude would have made removed the xubuntu apps a lot easier
[02:41] <neuro_> synaptic is nice for searching, but sometimes you just need to bring out the big dogs
[02:41] <neuro_> good old apt-get and apt-cache
[02:41] <Dial_tone> yes
[02:42] <harry> how do you mount the hardisk that just came from windows XP???
[02:42] <ardy> help How do I use authentication in access controls?
[02:42] <Warbo> !mount
[02:42] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:42] <theine> neuro_: Do you by any chance know how to display all local or obsolete packages via the command line?
[02:42] <ardy> help How do I use authentication in access controls? squid
[02:42] <Warbo> !windowsdrives
[02:42] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:42] <Dial_tone> I'm getting a 20" lcd that does 1600x1200 if it kills me
[02:42] <bigfoot1> neuro_: thanks.  apt-get dist-upgrade is insalling them now
[02:42] <Kitsune818> !wine
[02:42] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[02:42] <neuro_> theine: i do not
[02:42] <theine> neuro_: I.e. the same listing that you get from the Status tab in Synaptic
[02:42] <neuro_> theine: mainly because i'm twiddled
[02:42] <theine> neuro_: ah, ok
[02:43] <phire> so no one can help me?
[02:43] <neuro_> you're lucky i remember how to use apt-get
[02:43] <xanavim> neuro_: twiddled like I twiddle my thumbs?
[02:43] <neuro_> or indeed type
[02:43] <theine> neuro_: twiddled? have to look that up...
[02:43] <Snowfairy> What do I have to do to make previewing .ogg files in Nautilus work?
[02:43] <neuro_> xanavim: if you want to twiddle your thumbs, go right ahead
[02:43] <xanavim> hehehe
[02:43] <theine> gets it
[02:43] <neuro_> schweet
[02:43] <dddmt> hey im trying to install some packages, ive never used ubuntu or debian before, the package thing is confusing me
[02:44] <xanavim> theine: twiddling is what you do with your thumbs, don't listen to neuro_ he's drunk
[02:44] <neuro_> how can the package thing confuse?
[02:44] <neuro_> xanavim: EXACTLY
[02:44] <gigaclon> dddmt, are you using synaptic?
[02:44] <Draconicus> crimsun_: Wrapping splay with aoss worked fine. What do I do to fix splay to use the proper card?
[02:44] <dddmt> yeah looks like it
[02:44] <neuro_> applications -> add/remove
[02:44] <dddmt> it sucks
[02:44] <neuro_> i can't remember an easier application package management system
[02:44] <dddmt> how do i just type a command and get a package
[02:44] <dddmt> ok
[02:44] <neuro_> apt-get install packagename
[02:44] <harry> Warbo: i got this error message. i'm going to backup my files from my windows harddisk using ubuntu.
[02:44] <dddmt> well i dont know how it works
[02:44] <dddmt> i like portage
[02:44] <dddmt> :P
[02:44] <neuro_> apt-cache search packagename to find out what it's called
[02:44] <neuro_> portage sucks ass
[02:44] <dddmt> ok then apt-get install?
[02:45] <neuro_> apt-get install packagename
[02:45] <dddmt> totem-xine gxine libxine-extracodecs mplayer
[02:45] <dddmt> i want those packages
[02:45] <neuro_> i.e. apt-get install mtr
[02:45] <harry> Warbo: error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable
[02:45] <harry> error: could not execute pmount
[02:45] <theine> dddmt: have you tried synaptic?
[02:45] <Madpilot> dddmt, "sudo apt-get install <packages>"
[02:45] <neuro_> ook, yeah, sudo if you're not magic like root is
[02:45] <wastrel> dddmt:  so  sudo apt-get install totem-xone gxine mplayer otherthing that's too long to type
[02:45] <Warbo> harry: That was from mount or umount?
[02:45] <Snowfairy> neeeeevermind... fixed :P
[02:45] <wastrel> dddmt:  to search for package names  use  apt-cache search
[02:45] <dddmt> it says i dont have the sources
[02:45] <Dial_tone> has anyone used vmplayer for both win32 and linux? is the performance near the same?
[02:46] <Madpilot> dddmt, have you got Universe & Multiverse enabled?
[02:46] <Madpilot> !universe
[02:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:46] <dddmt> Madpilot: i think so but im not sure
[02:46] <dddmt> yeah i read that it didnt help me
[02:46] <Warbo> harry: Try doing "sudo mount /devicename /mountpoint" and "sudo umount /mountpoint" where devicename is /dev/hda1 or something and /mountpoint is /media/something
[02:46] <Madpilot> dddmt, check the URL ubotu just posted above
[02:46] <Dial_tone> http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[02:46] <theine> dddmt: have you done "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:46] <neuro_> ubotu knows all
[02:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neuro_
[02:46] <antox> did anybody have issues with sound in dapper?
[02:46] <dddmt> please just walk me thru this i dont have time i have to go somewhere
[02:46] <harry> Warbo: mount i think? i opened the computer on PLACES and then double click on the the harddrive. i got the error message i showed to you
[02:46] <neuro_> ubotu: i have no need for your searching skills
[02:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neuro_
[02:47] <xanavim> !anybody
[02:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[02:47] <neuro_> ubotu: no, really, shush
[02:47] <ubotu> neuro_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: language
[02:47] <Madpilot> neuro_, stop bugging the bot ;)
[02:47] <five_laptop> hrmrmr....
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: sry
[02:47] <neuro_> Madpilot: no worries
[02:47] <neuro_> kbrooks: language?
[02:47] <neuro_> i swore not
[02:47] <emptyshell> I have Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 and was wondering if there is a simple installation method that would allow the optional de-selection of packages ?
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: i read wrong place in backlog
[02:47] <dddmt> omg
[02:47] <neuro_> ha
[02:47] <dddmt> im going to lose it
[02:47] <kbrooks> neuro_: you swore before
[02:47] <dddmt> i just want to download mplayer
[02:47] <Madpilot> dddmt, the wiki pages  you've been given should walk you thru the stuff you need to do...
[02:47] <neuro_> yeah, i may have
[02:47] <dddmt> i tried to compile it and it says i dont have gcc
[02:47] <Healot> !info mplayer
[02:47] <Warbo> harry: I don't understand (or therefore like) the "Computer" way of mounting, but those commands (in a terminel) should work (make up a folder in /media for it to go in with "gksudo nautilus /media")
[02:47] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), Packaged size: 3265 kB, Installed size: 7916 kB
[02:48] <theine> dddmt: pasting what you get in the terminal would help
[02:48] <dddmt> mad they dont
[02:48] <kbrooks> neuro_: i'm not  a boss :-)
[02:48] <Healot> !repose
[02:48] <xanavim> dddmt:sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:48] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[02:48] <theine> dddmt: not in this channel though...
[02:48] <Healot> !repos
[02:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:48] <Madpilot> dddmt, mplayer is in multiverse, no need to mess around compiling the thing
[02:48] <neuro_> kbrooks: /me bows prostrate nonetheless :0
[02:48] <neuro_> :0
[02:48] <wastrel> dddmt:  vi /etc/apt/sources.list,  add universe and multiverse repos, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <your packages>
[02:48] <neuro_> :)
[02:48] <dddmt> how do i get it out of multiverse/?????
[02:48] <dddmt> im about to lose a screw here
[02:48] <BIAF> whats difference with the xubuntu desktop and alternate version
[02:48] <theine> dddmt: you don't need to get it out
[02:48] <neuro_> dddmt: do what wastrel says, wastrel is wise
[02:48] <Healot> damn, don't recommend vi for new users
[02:48] <Warbo> dddmt: Through a wormhole?
[02:48] <dddmt> it dsays i dont have ths sources
[02:49] <neuro_> Healot: noooo, vi is the One True Editor
[02:49] <Madpilot> dddmt, slow down and actually read some of the advice you're being given, OK?
[02:49] <dddmt> i dont know what a repository is
[02:49] <theine> neuro_: that's true
[02:49] <cafuego> Healot: You're right, emacs would be a better idea for newbies.
[02:49] <noodz> Hey, did anybody consider that a message should be put somewhere that the new updates break FGLRX and all the related packages?
[02:49] <Warbo> nano is an easier emacs IMHO
[02:49] <eric__> warbo: alright time for one more stupid question: i don't see a tick box to disable it...
[02:49] <wastrel> dddmt:  do you know how to use a text editor to edit a file?
[02:49] <Madpilot> dddmt, the repos are where Ubuntu gets it's packages from - they're online
[02:49] <neuro_> dddmt: do what the bot says
 To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:49] <Draconicus> Nano is a hell of a lot easier than VIM, I think.
[02:50] <wastrel> nano is harder than vim, if you know vim at all.  :p
[02:50] <neuro_> Draconicus: it is, but it's too close to emacs for my liking
[02:50] <Draconicus> It actually functions like youre typical text editor.
[02:50] <theine> Draconicus: Yes, but it's a hell of a lot less powerful as well
[02:50] <Warbo> eric__: There is a list of repositories (Apper LTS should be at the top) and on their left should be tick boxes
[02:50] <neuro_> your typical text editor is *not* vi :>
[02:50] <Draconicus> Since when does ENTER not mean a line return?!
[02:50] <Warbo> eric__: In Synaptic's Settings>Repositories
[02:50] <Madpilot> Folks, the random never-ending text editor debate can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...
[02:51] <dddmt> wait so which lines do i uncomment in this sources file?
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> neuro_: vi is the typical text editor on most unix / style systems
[02:51] <cafuego> Draconicus: What? Line feed or carriage return.
[02:51] <noodz> vi is too powerful for the average user... the idea is that nano and gedit make ubuntu more windows-like
[02:51] <neuro_> h3sp4wn: erm, yes, i know
[02:51] <noodz> too many options=lowered productivity
[02:51] <dust> i tried to play a wmv file but it came up with warning saying that there are too many video packets in the buffer then played an abstract colourful screen. how do i fix this?
[02:51] <neuro_> h3sp4wn: i've only been using it for about 13 years
[02:51] <Warbo> I used to despise Vi. Then, a few weeks ago, I found out how to use the : in it :)
[02:51] <Draconicus> cafuego: The latter, I guess.
[02:51] <cafuego> noodz: OSX like, thanks.
[02:51] <wastrel> dddmt:  anything in there that says universe or multiverse?  if not add them to one of the uncommented lines.
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> neuro_: So hence it is the typical text editor
[02:51] <wastrel> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[02:51] <neuro_> lies
[02:51] <dddmt> utheres not anything that says multiverse
[02:51] <neuro_> it's not typical
[02:51] <neuro_> it's magnificent
[02:51] <theine> noodz: I strongly disagree on your productivity statement
[02:51] <dddmt> isnt there a gui program to do this?
[02:51] <eric__> warbo my first one is "ubuntu cd 5.10 breezy badger" with no tick boxes
[02:51] <jshriver> Anyone here run MySQL under ubuntu? what do I need to do to set it up other than apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[02:52] <jshriver> remeber a long time ago after installing from source had to change the user tables root passwd etc
[02:52] <Madpilot> dddmt, there is - check the walkthru here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:52] <gigaclon> dddmt, yes it is called synaptic
[02:52] <Dial_tone> you need to create a db and add users
[02:52] <neuro_> jshriver: you'll probably want to enable networking, bind to the local ip only and set the root password
[02:52] <jshriver> how do you change the root password in mysql?
[02:52] <Madpilot> gigaclon, Dapper has move repository management out of Synaptic for some dumb reason
[02:52] <neuro_> altho most webby mysql things like talking to localhost so enabling networking need not be a prerequisite for usefulness
[02:53] <theine> Madpilot: has it?
[02:53] <neuro_> jshriver: http://www.google.com/search?q=mysql+change+root+password
[02:53] <harry> who knows how to mount harddrive from windows XP. i think its an NTFS.. o coudlnt open the harddrive in ubuntu
[02:53] <neuro_> s'easy
[02:53] <rendo> OMG SUCCESS
[02:53] <jshriver> well I'm using mysql just for some homebrew cod running locally :)
[02:53] <noodz> theine: im trying to assert that when people are innundated with things they don't need, they have a harder time  figuring out how to do what they need to... and also, more options, such as the powerful commands in vi, lead to better chances of screw-ups, i.e. accidently exiting out of "input" mode partway through typing, etc
[02:53] <rendo> Okay.
[02:53] <Madpilot> theine, sort of - check the URL I just gave to dddmt
[02:53] <Warbo> eric__: OK, well never mind. (if you run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and go down to the line with nerim.net in it and put a "#" at the beginning of that line, then press ctrl-x, y then enter to save it you will have done the same thing)
[02:53] <theine> Madpilot: ah, ok
[02:53] <rendo> Has anyone ever ran into issues with LiveCD not working for Nvidia based graphic cards?
[02:53] <gigaclon> Madpilot, I did with synaptic just yesterday
[02:53] <gigaclon> its still there
[02:53] <jshriver> Does ubuntu include the NVidia binaries or do I have to intsall that manuall from the .bin file
[02:54] <neuro_> nv drivers (free) are included by default
[02:54] <rendo> jshriver: They should, nvidia is supported well in the linux community.
[02:54] <ic56> harry: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> noobz: You have multiple levels of undo with vim so thats not much of a problem (just use u in command mode)
[02:54] <neuro_> nvidia (non-free) are in universe or multiverse
[02:54] <eric__> warbo: like i said i dont know how to do this stuff. That sway too complicated. The warning isnt thta bad...thanks for all of your help though
[02:54] <dddmt> why is this so insanely complicated
[02:54] <jshriver> neuro_, thanks :)
[02:54] <jshriver> bbiab
[02:54] <neuro_> dddmt: it's really not :)
[02:54] <rendo> Has anyone ever ran into issues with LiveCD not working for Nvidia based graphic cards?
[02:54] <Warbo> eric__: OK, np
[02:54] <Mike-X2> but NV default drivers's not optional
[02:55] <neuro_> rendo: no
[02:55] <rendo> Even older models?
[02:55] <xanavim> dddmt: it's geared to make impossible things easy after you take the time to learn it
[02:55] <harry> ic5^: i can see it in the Computer but i can't open it
[02:55] <ic56> harry: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[02:55] <rendo> I had to disable the PCI card and use the onboard otherwise the GUI wouldn't load.
[02:55] <eric__> ok see al of you guys later
[02:55] <noodz> h3sp4wn, I'm not saying you can't undo changes you make to the document. but if a user accidently enters split screen mode or something, hes going to be very confused when he tries to edit the file he opened originally
[02:55] <eric__> thanks for everyones help
[02:55] <xanavim> noodz: he's going to be confused until he does :only
[02:56] <inono> Is there an apt-cache tutorial somewherre
[02:56] <neuro_> man apt-cache
[02:56] <ic56> harry: have you already tried to fix it?  You probably did it wrong.  The script will fix it.
[02:56] <inono> i tried man apt-cache and i failed
[02:56] <asdf25> anyone know if gparted can resize ext3 partitions?
[02:56] <neuro_> inono: you failed?
[02:56] <Xgates> what are dummy packs in Ubuntu?
[02:56] <inono> yes
[02:56] <rendo> Bah, I never get an answer I need. :P
[02:56] <neuro_> inono: how?
[02:56] <mjr> asdf25, it can
[02:56] <inono> neuro_, i was trying to figure out if I had a package installed
[02:56] <rendo> It's always me that gets specific hardware problems. :@
[02:56] <asdf25> mjr: cool, thanks
[02:56] <neuro_> inono: try dpkg -l packagename
[02:56] <five_laptop> ugh
[02:56] <inono> neuro_, i did apt-cache --installed showpkg monodevelop-boo
[02:56] <inono> aha, whats the difference between apt-cache and dpg
[02:57] <nickrud> Xgates, essentially they're links to the correct package
[02:57] <dddmt> ok it worked
[02:57] <neuro_> apt frontends onto dpkg
[02:57] <vic> Hello, how can I upgrade 5.10 to dapper drake
[02:57] <dddmt> thanks
[02:57] <Xgates> nickrud: what do you mean?
[02:57] <xanavim> !upgradetodapper
[02:57] <dddmt> for your help
[02:57] <ubotu> xanavim: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <five_laptop> why would i be getting an unknown hostname error in my syslog when i try to mount an nfs volume on a host which is in hosts.allow?
[02:57] <gdb> vic: Put in the CD, boot from it, and when you get to the desktop, double click the "Install" icon.
[02:57] <dddmt> i just needed porn
[02:57] <dddmt> and it was streessing me out
[02:57] <xanavim> !upgrade2dapper
[02:57] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xanavim
[02:57] <xanavim> meh
[02:57] <dddmt> to the point i couldnt think
[02:57] <neuro_> dddmt: pronview
[02:57] <Draconicus> cafuego: *pokepoke*
[02:57] <inono> guess i dont have it instaled...
[02:57] <vic> gdb, is there any way to do it without the cd
[02:57] <Draconicus> Err..
[02:57] <Xgates> nickrud: for instance I'm looking at mplayer in Synaptic, then below it is mplayer-386 dummy
[02:57] <Draconicus> Wrong person.
[02:57] <cafuego> Draconicus: what?
[02:57] <five_laptop> why would i be getting an unknown hostname error in my syslog when i try to mount an nfs volume on a host which is in hosts.allow?
[02:58] <Draconicus> crimsun_: *pokepoke*
[02:58] <Draconicus> cafuego: Sorry. Wrong person.
[02:58] <inono> is there a Boo channel here?
[02:58] <neuro_> boo?
[02:58] <harry> ic56: what file is the instruction is referring to??
[02:58] <cafuego> five_laptop: the host isn't in /etc/hosts?
[02:58] <xanavim> inono: /join #boo
[02:58] <gdb> vic: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all references to "breezy" to "dapper".  Do an "apt-get update" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:58] <rendo> Oh well, it works for now I suppose, any issues I get if I convince the mother in law to switch I'll deal with when I get there.
[02:58] <vic> thanks
[02:58] <nickrud> Xgates, for example, mplayer-386 is a dummy package :) good example :) it depends on the real mplayer package: that is, if you install mplayer-386 it will install mplayer which has the actual mplayer
[02:58] <neuro_> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:58] <dddmt> wtf is pronview
[02:58] <Dial_tone> why are the dang wait times so long before a d/l starts in amule
[02:58] <Mike-X2> LOLOL I just upgraded from 5.10 throu breezy
[02:58] <emptyshell> Hi When I install Ubuntu it says it cannot detect my internet DHCP host. Since I am using a wireless card that requires I enter an ESSID and my WEP key is there  a way to tell the installation this so that it can downloda the new files auto?
[02:58] <neuro_> :%s/breezy/dapper/g
[02:58] <neuro_> :wq
[02:58] <neuro_> sorter
[02:58] <neuro_> sorted
[02:58] <ic56> harry: the file which you will download -- the script itself.
[02:58] <gdb> vic: make sure you use "dist-ugprade" and not "upgrade" or you will be left with an unbootable system.
[02:59] <Xgates> nickrud: ok, well why all the confusion, why not make one mplayer pack?
[02:59] <xanavim> gdb: what?
[02:59] <neuro_> Mike-X2: you just upgraded to breezy from breezy? :)
[02:59] <Xgates> why not make just one I mean .....
[02:59] <gdb> xanavim: From the Upgrade to Dapper documentation I've read, that's the warning given.
[02:59] <Mike-X2> neuro: lol .i..
[02:59] <neuro_> 5.10 == breezy
[02:59] <gdb> Wether or not it's true is up to the reader.
[02:59] <xanavim> gdb: lol, re-read what you typed
[02:59] <Mike-X2> neuro: just kidin
[03:00] <harry> ic56: i dont understand this fully but how am i supposed to download the file you're sayin
[03:00] <gdb> xanavim: What's wrong with it?
[03:00] <xanavim> gdb: you said use ugprade, not upgrade
[03:00] <neuro_> lol
[03:00] <gdb> doh!
[03:00] <ic56> harry: in your browser, go to File> Save as>
[03:00] <Remy> hey guys, I've installed windows onto a partition and lost GRUB, so I'm going to boot of the install CD to restore it... I'm not sure which partition I need to specify though, any suggestions ?
[03:00] <Mike-X2> neuro: i know LOL glitch just a glitch
[03:00] <Xgates> nickrud: I mean what are we saying if I grab mplayer-686, then this grabs a 686 optimized mplayer?
[03:00] <nickrud> Xgates, because in breezy mplayer-386 was a real package. So when someone dist-upgrades to breezy, the upgraded 386 package will automatically pull in the new mplayer
[03:00] <gdb> Ok, use "dist-upgrade" and not "upgrade" ;-)
[03:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Remy about grub
[03:00] <neuro_> Mike-X2: no worries, wasn't trying to be arsey :)
[03:01] <gdb> (I frequently switch letters that I type across my left and right hands._
[03:01] <gdb> ), rather
[03:01] <harry> ic56: you mean the whole txt that you showed me i'm gonna save??
[03:01] <lwizardl> hi
[03:01] <nickrud> Xgates, that was true for breezy, but not for dapper. dummy packages are meant to smooth upgrades
[03:01] <neuro_> gdb: you're not alone
[03:01] <ic56> harry: yes
[03:01] <gdb> neuro_: hehe
[03:01] <lwizardl> can i get server help here?
[03:01] <xanavim> gdb: well, I'm lysdexic sometimes
[03:01] <gdb> lol
[03:01] <neuro_> gdb: tho i do it more when i'm twiddled
[03:01] <neuro_> backspace, backspace, backspace
[03:01] <nickrud> Xgates, erm, dist-upgrades to dapper above
[03:01] <Xgates> nickrud: ok so all I need to do is grab mplayer, and "Consider" dummy packs as more of a upgrade thing?
[03:01] <stevekl> Do any of you know how to remove an item from the accessories menu, when that item doesn't show up in alacarte?
[03:01] <Remy> Madpilot - I allready have that information... What I'm not sure about if whch partition to specify for grub to install onto...
[03:01] <neuro_> x-chat should have an "i'm drunk, spell check *everything*" option
[03:01] <ic56> harry: and use the -b option -- sudo bash <scriptname> -b
[03:02] <neuro_> -b?
[03:02] <neuro_> ooh what does that do
[03:02] <nickrud> Xgates, yup.
[03:02] <Xgates> ok
[03:02] <_d4rky> could you please kick d4rky-pl ?
[03:02] <Madpilot> Remy, no idea, I've never actually needed that info - I just know the bot had it :) sorry.
[03:02] <gdb> I'm trying to install Dapper onto a raid1 root disk.  How futile is this effort?  I've created devices md0 through md9 and they're about to finish up syncing.  I figure since the installer will only install to real disk partitions, I can edit /etc/fstab after installation, set the sd devices to md devices, and reboot and it will resync again automagically.
[03:02] <gdb> (Created these devices using the live CD, that is, prior to the installation).
[03:02] <boga> I get the message "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." How do I fix this?
[03:02] <neuro_> sounds evil
[03:02] <Remy> np :)
[03:03] <alexi5> does anyone here know how to fix the slow performance of samba
[03:03] <Xgates> one other thing, now with mplayer, how do we know what codecs it's been compiled with? I mean when I go to grab it, it's just showing libs is all, that it is grabbing, no codecs, xvid, win32codecs, etc....
[03:03] <neuro_> iirc installing stuff onto soft raid is a hasle
[03:03] <neuro_> at least it was with sarge
[03:03] <ic56> neuro_: are you talking to me?
[03:03] <gdb> I'm not sure how to write grub out to the second disk, though.
[03:03] <neuro_> ic56: yeah, at least re: -b :)
[03:03] <crimsun_> Draconicus: I'm very busy atm. Just tell splay to use the appropriate /dev/dsp device
[03:03] <gdb> neuro_: Yes, it's been a bit of a hastle. :-)
[03:03] <Madpilot> _d4rky, if you're registered w/ Freenode, just use ghost to get rid of your old nick
[03:03] <crimsun_> Draconicus: e.g., /dev/dsp2
[03:03] <neuro_> alexi5: depends what you mean by slow performance
[03:03] <neuro_> slow throughput or slow connection?
[03:04] <neuro_> only 4? :)
[03:04] <Xgates> lol
[03:04] <alexi5> it takes a forever to copy a few megs of files
[03:04] <neuro_> the app you want invariably is on the other operating system
[03:04] <alexi5> i never had that problem with breezy
[03:04] <jshriver> I read the Mysql manual setup instructions and tried mysqladmin -u root password "whatever"
[03:04] <ic56> neuro_: harry is having trouble.  I presume he's already messed up his /etc/fstab.  diskmounter -b will make a backup copy of his /etc/fstab and create a new one.  The new one won't contain any of the old NTFS entries.
[03:04] <jshriver> and I get a connection error.. not letting me connect from localhost
[03:04] <neuro_> oh, diskmounter -b, i thought you meant bash -b
[03:04] <_d4rky> d4rky-pl is my phantom, please tell this to op when he'll come
[03:04] <stevekl> Do any of you know how to remove an item from the accessories menu, when that item doesn't show up in alacarte?
[03:04] <alexi5> neuro:slow through put
[03:04] <nickrud> Xgates, wiki.ubuntu.com/Mplayer has a list. the ones that say x86dll need w32codecs
[03:05] <Xgates> nickrud: so how can you tell what support something has been compiled with? Mplayer isn't grabbing any codecs
[03:05] <Xgates> k
[03:05] <ic56> neuro_: you gotta pay attention ;-)
[03:05] <neuro_> alexi5: interesting, i had no similar probs here
[03:05] <khaladan> Hi, I have a bunch of files named blah-%.png where % is a number, and I'd like to list them in numerical order, so that blah-2 comes before blah-10 for example.  how can I do that?
[03:05] <neuro_> ic56: yeah, i shoudl probably stop drinking :>
[03:05] <harry> ic56: why does it said no such file or directory when i typed sudo bash diskmounter???
[03:05] <dibblego> I have installed build-essential and an install script is asking for "the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" - where is that exactly? /usr/include/linux ?
[03:05] <ic56> harry: what filename did you use when you saved it?
[03:05] <neuro_> harry: path, path path path
[03:06] <neuro_> sudo bash /path/to/diskmounter
[03:06] <harry> ic56: i already cd on the directory on where i placed the file
[03:06] <neuro_> replace /path/to with the obvious :>
[03:06] <neuro_> try sudo bash ./diskmounter
[03:06] <neuro_> -b twiddle foo etc
[03:06] <harry> ic56: diskmounter-latest.txt
[03:06] <Xgates> nickrud: x86dll?
[03:06] <Madpilot> khaladan, Nautilus should do that sort of sorting already - it does for me
[03:06] <Xgates> nickrud: well the wiki says to only install mplayer, hmm
[03:06] <ic56> neuro_: no that's not it.  The filename on the website is diskmounter-latest.txt  harry probably saved it by that filename but tried to invoke it by a different name.
[03:07] <nickrud> Xgates, it also mentions restricted formats
[03:07] <Xgates> gdb: you having grub problems with 2 drives?
[03:07] <neuro_> ic56: /me shuts up then :)
[03:07] <ic56> harry: you must invoke it by the same name as you saved it.  How else will Ubuntu know what you want it to execute?
[03:07] <khaladan> Madpilot, i'd like to do it from the command line
[03:07] <jshriver> or how can you tell ubuntu to revert to the vanilla install parameters of Mysql..
[03:07] <harry> ic56: ok
[03:07] <jshriver> think I locked myself out of the server :(
[03:07] <dibblego> where on earth are the header files for the kernel after installing build-essential?
[03:07] <Madpilot> khaladan, ah - no idea - check the options in ls, there might be something there
[03:07] <neuro_> jshriver: use safe mode
[03:07] <neuro_> search dev.mysql.com for safe mode
[03:07] <Xgates> nickrud: well how the heck did they compile mplayer, I mean there are quite a few codecs for it. You mean there is like no codec support for this thing in Ubuntu?
[03:07] <jshriver> hrm?
[03:07] <dibblego> !build-essential
[03:07] <ubotu> methinks build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[03:08] <boga> Trying to use the sound recorder, I get the message "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." Where are these settings?
[03:08] <harry> ic56: i have to choose no right??
[03:08] <nickrud> Xgates, nearly every one of those media formats have native mplayer support, only the ones that mention x86dll need w32codecs
[03:08] <ic56> harry: no is a good answer for both questions.
[03:08] <nickrud> Xgates, not clear, true
[03:08] <vilefridge> Hey does anyone have time to help me troubleshoot my Nforce4 audio driver?  I've installed the Nforce4 driver package from Nvidia's website but it's still not emitting sound.  I would appreciate any help given ;)
[03:08] <harry> ic56: ok
[03:09] <Xgates> nickrud: I'm not just talking Win32, there are many others, xvid for example as one...
[03:09] <Gullstad> Does ubuntu support two screens?
[03:09] <neuro_> Gullstad: sure does
[03:09] <nickrud> dibblego, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:09] <nickrud> Xgates, read the list, XviDis there
[03:09] <dibblego> nickrud, ah thanks
[03:09] <Xgates> nickrud: how can we tell what it's been compiled with?
[03:09] <harry> ic56: its done thank you very much
[03:09] <Gullstad> neuro_: What programs you need for this support?
[03:09] <dibblego> nickrud, by the way I resolved the screen resolution issue
[03:10] <ic56> harry: so, no problems?  and your filesystem works now?
[03:10] <nickrud> dibblego, how by the way :)
[03:10] <neuro_> Gullstad: none
[03:10] <nickrud> fglrx?
[03:10] <Gullstad> neuro_: Well, I ment two screen whit different pictures
[03:10] <neuro_> Gullstad: you probably want to fiddle with this: http://www.google.com/search?q=dualhead+site%3Awiki.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <harry> ic56: yep. after clicking the harddrive. it opened just fine
[03:10] <neuro_> Gullstad: i know what you meant :0
[03:10] <dibblego> nickrud, I wasn't able to run the highest resolution though - I managed to use a resolution that I want though - just twiddling with xorg.conf
[03:10] <neuro_> dual head is easy to do if you know what you're doing
[03:10] <Gullstad> neuro_: Aint doing that now atleast :P
[03:10] <neuro_> if not, it's an adventure
[03:11] <ic56> harry: excellent.  Seeing as this is the latest beta version of the script.  Wanna give any feedback?  Suggestions for improvemnt?  Things in the instructions that were unclear?
[03:11] <Gullstad> Then I'm on my way to an adventure ;-)
[03:11] <harry> ic56: ok
[03:12] <neuro_> Gullstad: enjoy - the end of the journey is filled with enlightenment (not e17) and glory!
[03:12] <ic56> harry: just /msg me.
[03:12] <harry> ic56: on where..??
[03:12] <Gullstad> neuro_: I got my linksys wireless card working, and my ATI drivers on place. So this should be a pice of shit/cake
[03:12] <nickrud> dibblego, I was looking around the bug list, and I saw some stuff seems relevant, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/40998 and other stuff saying install fglrx
[03:12] <neuro_> Gullstad: hopefully the latter :>
[03:12] <ic56> harry: here -- on IRC.  Send me a private message.  Do you know how?
[03:13] <neuro_> ic56: remember, freenode now requires you to be registered with nickserv to send/receive /msgs
[03:13] <harry> ic56: nope
[03:13] <ic56> neuro_: good point. harry isn't registered.
[03:13] <gdb> Well, cross your fingers.  I just failed all the mirrored plexes so I can install the OS.  When I reboot, I'll edit /etc/fstab, reboot again, and then run my little script that reassembles the mirrors.  I hope this works!
[03:14] <ic56> harry: you aren't registered with freenode's nickserv so you cannot use the /msg function.  So never mind, just say your comment here.
[03:14] <harry> ok
[03:14] <ic56> harry: unless you have a lot to say, in which case you could email me.
[03:15] <neuro_> this is like speed dating
[03:15] <rendo> With two graphics cards, on being onboard, the other being a pci interface, how do I select which one for xorg to display?
[03:15] <harry> ic56: your email please?
[03:15] <ic56> harry: ic56@rogers.com
[03:15] <neuro_> rendo: by driver, i'd have thought
[03:15] <Kitsune818> Does anyone know how to turn off the alt key moving windows in gnome? I run some aps that require holding in the alt key and clicking and its driving me nuts
[03:15] <rendo> neuro_ How would I do that? :P I'm using a livecd btw
[03:16] <neuro_> rendo: excellent, no idea :)
[03:16] <neuro_> sorry, i'm extra-useless tonight
[03:16] <rendo> Doesn't matter.
[03:16] <nickrud> rendo, I used BusID in my driver definition
[03:16] <rendo> Nickrud And where do I go about setting that?
[03:17] <rendo> neuro_ I don't NEED the PCI card to work, I just want the damn thing to not be so slwo. :P
[03:17] <neuro_> eek
[03:17] <gpm> hey guys. i'm having trouble installing grub (instead of lilo, which was installed by default for some reason). when i run grub-install /dev/hda...it freezes up. what's going on? i can give more details...didn't want to flood.
[03:17] <neuro_> nearly spilled some wine there
[03:17] <neuro_> that could have been disastrous
[03:18] <rendo> I have a feeling it's because the card is an nvdia, older model. :/
[03:18] <neuro_> i feel dirty
[03:18] <krazykit> neuro_: nah, windows update is a good thing.  at least they update it
[03:19] <goudkov> is there a way to flag mail-transport-agent as installed if i want to compile qmail separately?
[03:19] <neuro_> eww, qmail? :)
[03:19] <nickrud> rendo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15840 has a fragment from my xorg.conf, and the relevant lspci stuff for the card.
[03:19] <neuro_> just install exim or postfix and disable it
[03:19] <Peregrino> I have a modem issue, can anyone helpme?!
[03:19] <nickrud> rendo, I did that cuz for some reason I couldn't disable the onboard video in bios
[03:19] <rendo> I can't either. :P
[03:19] <bullrage> Can somebody tell me why all my ndiswrapper settings were lost in the recent kernel update and how I can fix this so I can use my wireless card with the new kernel
[03:19] <||arifaX> what is a good software for making screenshots and then combine them for a video for ubuntu?
[03:19] <rendo> I can disable the PCI card though, which I did
[03:19] <goudkov> neuro_: thanks man. that's really helpful.
[03:19] <||arifaX> should be able to automatically shoot
[03:20] <Healot> Peregrino: dialup modem or DSL modem, indicate the port connector type
[03:20] <neuro_> goudkov: don't take this the wrong way, but are you being serious or facetious? :)
[03:20] <neuro_> i'm drunk, so can't tell
[03:20] <krazykit> ||arifaX: there are some programs that'll make the video for you
[03:20] <Peregrino> DSL modem, SpeedTouch USB
[03:20] <neuro_> my spidey sense isn't tingling
[03:20] <Healot> !eicl
[03:20] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[03:20] <krazykit> ||arifaX: though i don't recall what they are.  lemme look for a minute
[03:20] <neuro_> ooh, the speedtouch
[03:20] <goudkov> neuro_: it depens if you know how to make a virtual package show installed by making a blank package or not.
[03:21] <||arifaX> krazykit, I want to screenshot a routeflight at map24.com and then create a video of it :)
[03:21] <neuro_> goudkov: seriously mate, just install exim and disable ti
[03:21] <eric__> i got autoatix but it asked for a password
[03:21] <neuro_> then use whatever mta you like
[03:21] <eric__> what do i out?
[03:21] <eric__> what do i out?88
[03:21] <nickrud> rendo, if lspci only shows one card, you shouldn't even need to use the busid stuff then
[03:21] <krazykit> ||arifaX: you could run scrot a bunch of times with sleeps in between.
[03:21] <eric__> putt**
[03:21] <neuro_> mmm, scrot
[03:21] <goudkov> neuro_: seriously mate, try to understand that you don't know anything and everything about what other people need.
[03:21] <Peregrino> neuro_: What with the SpeedTouch?
[03:21] <tyce> any ideas on how to get EXABYTE drive working under ubuntu
[03:22] <neuro_> goudkov: seriously mate, try to realise that i'm trying to offer some free assistance to you at twenty past two in the morning
[03:22] <neuro_> what's wrong with disabling the on-board mta and using your own?
[03:22] <neuro_> then at least apt won't hassle you
[03:22] <eric__> how do i use automatix
[03:22] <eric__> i would like to watch dvds
[03:22] <krazykit> ubotu: tell eric__ about automatix
[03:22] <Healot> Peregrino: read more here >> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=629
[03:23] <goudkov> neuro_: an advice would have been an explanation on what i need to achieve, and i would be thankful for that. what you are doing is called being a geek in a classical sence. i used to do that myself, so don't take it  the wrong way.
[03:23] <Healot> speedtouch.sourceforge.net >> the driver site, Peregrino
[03:23] <eric__>  #automatix
[03:23] <eric__> hmm
[03:23] <eric__> how do i switch channels
[03:23] <wastrel> /join #channelname
[03:24] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(
[03:24] <dust> is there any way to find out if a WMV file has been  encoded with DRM?
[03:24] <xanavim> eric__: in which client?
[03:24] <an> hey
[03:24] <an> here it's me
[03:24] <neuro_> goudkov: i'll take it whatever way i like, bearing in mind i now have 2 bottles of tasty red wine in me ... you didn't ask about making a virtual package, just how to defeat the generic mta package to use qmail; i offered a solution, you rejected it out of hand with facetiousness, nothing to do with geekness
[03:24] <rendo> nickrud, Thanks anyways.  Too much hassle just for a livecd show for the mother in law.
[03:24] <nickrud> rendo, ar ;)
[03:24] <an> where am I ?
[03:24] <bullrage> Can somebody tell me why all my ndiswrapper settings were lost in the recent kernel update and how I can fix this so I can use my wireless card with the new kernel
[03:24] <rendo> nickrud:  I just need to show her Ubuntu is better than Windows, and I'm sure the nvidia drivers will install with a proper install.
[03:24] <goudkov> nevermind. thanks for being so helpful.
[03:24] <an> how do I change channel ?
[03:24] <an> where is the list of channels ?
[03:24] <xanavim> an: you're in front of your computer
[03:25] <xanavim> an: /list
[03:25] <an> haha
[03:25] <Peregrino> Healot: My prob is not finding the firmware, that's on the ubuntu help. I don't know how to get it work on a Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger LiveCD
[03:25] <nickrud> goudkov, you might find the package equivs useful
[03:25] <an> what makes you think that ?
[03:25] <goudkov> nickrud: thanks what i was looking for thanks. just forgot the name,
[03:25] <an> ok
[03:25] <neuro_> goudkov: i clearly wasn't helpful; please be truthful in future.
[03:25] <an> a looot of channels
[03:25] <an> thanks
[03:25] <nickrud> goudkov, with 17,000 packages, who'd a thunk it ;)
[03:25] <Healot> Peregrino: you want to configure it in a Live environment?
[03:25] <alexcamilo> Hello. I am having a problem using ubuntu 6.06 with a  netgear wg511v2 wireless card using the Marvell chipset. I had it working well under suse 10.1 using ndiswrapper and the driver off of the disk. But when i used apt-get to install ndiswrapper in ubuntu and installed the driver like i did before the card doesnt work. there is no wlan0 or eth1. even after i restarted it was like the card didnt exist. i ran ndiswrapper -l and it says 
[03:26] <joel_> hey all, proxy test: where do you guys think I'm from?
[03:26] <Peregrino> Healot: Yes. I can't install Ubuntu in this PC for family Issues xD
[03:26] <goudkov> nickrud: hehe, yeah. i remember there was the "debian" way of screwing with the apt system, but couldn't remember how it's done. anyway, thanks.\
[03:26] <ube> hey guys
[03:26] <tyce> Help geting EXABYTE working
[03:26] <neuro_> joel_: looks like a comcast connection from here
[03:26] <neuro_> joel_: somewhere in darkest minnesota
[03:26] <xanavim> joel_: minnesota?
[03:27] <joel_> ok, thx guys
[03:27] <krazykit> joel_: the internet.
[03:27] <rendo> Heh.
[03:27] <joel_> hehe
[03:27] <rendo> Earth :P
[03:27] <neuro_> ze interweb
[03:27] <wastrel> does /join #channelname   not work in some irc clients?
[03:27] <xanavim> joel_: dontchaknow
[03:27] <alexcamilo> fire ze missiles
[03:27] <wastrel> neuro_:  spelled intarweb
[03:27] <krazykit> wastrel: never seen one that it doesn't
[03:27] <neuro_> wastrel: doh
[03:27] <Healot> Peregrino: install the prepackaged driver then
[03:27] <xanavim> wastrel: some irc clients are utterly broken pieces of garbage, so...
[03:28] <Healot> Peregrino: http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/index.php?/download.en.html
[03:28] <neuro_> wastrel: i thought the internet was just myspace.com now? :)
[03:28] <wastrel> heh
[03:28] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem >> even
[03:28] <neuro_> Peregrino: this may - *may* - be of use: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/
[03:28] <boga> can someone tell me where multimedia settings are in Dapper? I cannot use my mic though it works. The sound recorder program says its settings are invalid!
[03:28] <rayston> anyone here know VNC?
[03:28] <neuro_> istr having fun getting a black speedtouch 330 up and running
[03:29] <neuro_> that was on hoary tho
[03:29] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo >> Peregrino
[03:29] <NoUse> rayston I use it
[03:29] <Healot> damn
[03:29] <Peregrino> Healot: Yes, but the installation instructions tellme to reboot my system. And you know, when I reboot Live Ubuntu, I loose everything  I make
[03:29] <neuro_> Healot: schweet
[03:29] <anfangs> ANYONE know the command to bring up the ATI configuration GUI?
[03:30] <rayston> is it possible to use VNCin such a way that I could log into my home computer from anywhere with just a browser? no need for a client?
[03:30] <amachu> #join ubuntu-in
[03:30] <nickrud> anfangs, aticonfig ?
[03:30] <NoUse> rayston I believe so
[03:30] <neuro_> rayston: sure, vnc has a java client mode
[03:30] <||arifaX> krazykit, scrot does it - thanks
[03:30] <Healot> Peregrino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo << no reboot
[03:30] <neuro_> if you set vnc to listen on port 0, http://hostname:5800/ will connect you
[03:31] <anfangs> nickrud: nope, i need the GUI... ive accessed it b4 on gnome control panel, i think
[03:31] <neuro_> port 12, http://hostname:5812/
[03:31] <neuro_> and so on
[03:31] <Healot> hoho... reboot
[03:31] <neuro_> you may want to lock it down via vpn or ssh tunnels first tho
[03:31] <neuro_> Healot: good luck :)
[03:31] <neuro_> oh, you're not rebooting
[03:31] <Peregrino> Healot: I see, there says to plug and unplug the modem, That's a very clever thing to do xD
[03:31] <rayston> but it is possible?
[03:32] <alexcamilo> so, anyone here have any experience with ndiswrapper in ubuntu 6.06?
[03:32] <Healot> Peregrino: yes, require no reboot on that wikiwiki
[03:32] <neuro_> rayston: i just explained that it is, yes
[03:32] <amachu> hi, I have problems with SCIM + Open office
[03:32] <rayston> kay, thats cool, any advice on a good VNCserver?
[03:32] <amachu> can any one guide
[03:32] <amachu> ??
[03:32] <wastrel> what's scim?
[03:32] <Peregrino> Healot: Thanks, I'll try that after dinner ^^
[03:32] <NoUse> alexcamilo I've used it once
[03:33] <amachu> scim is for Muliti Linguism
[03:33] <neuro_> Smart Common Input Method
[03:33] <kwtm> How do I turn off auto-spellchecking in KMail, please?
[03:33] <eric__> can someone help me pklay dvds
[03:33] <Healot> SKIM on Kubuntu
[03:33] <athayde> hid3, I can't find my musics that I've downloaded using amule
[03:33] <amachu> neuro: can u guide?
[03:33] <NoUse> !dvd
[03:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:33] <athayde> ops... hi
[03:33] <neuro_> amachu: no, i just googled scim :>
[03:33] <alexcamilo> NoUse: i'm having trouble to get ubunto to see my card. i installed the deiver and it says the card is present and the driver is installed when i rin ndiswrapper -l
[03:33] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(
[03:33] <NoUse> alexcamilo what does ifconfig -a output?
[03:33] <Remy> hey guys, I'm trying to restore GRUB after loading windows, and I have a question.
[03:33] <athayde> that musics will stay at /home/user/.amule/incoming
[03:34] <neuro_> amachu: looks like an open bug tho: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/36589
[03:34] <athayde> I have just installed ubuntu in my computer, and I liked, but I can't find my musics
[03:34] <Remy> I'm using an older Ubuntu install CD, to run the information on the ubuntu wiki page...  What I want to know if, how do I know which is my ubuntu root install hda?
[03:34] <rayston> wow, lotta updates today
[03:35] <Remy> in the gnome partition manager, hda2 is of type ext3, and it's the right size to be my main partition for ubuntu, is this the one ?
[03:35] <neuro_> rayston: yeah, scary eh? :)
[03:35] <Remy> the other partitions are type extended and swap...
[03:35] <Remy> so should it be the ext3 ?
[03:35] <NoUse> Remy probably yes
[03:35] <eric__> how do i plays dvds
[03:35] <eric__> i have realplayerdoesnt work
[03:35] <rayston> yah, im a little gunshy, the GLXupdates yesterday broke my X for a bit
[03:35] <eric__> have automatix
[03:35] <NoUse> Remy you root parition would be the largest one as well
[03:35] <eric__> dont know how to use it
[03:35] <Remy> NoUse: the largest of my linux partitions ?
[03:36] <alexcamilo> had to reeinstall ubuntu. installer is at 90% i'l know in bout 3-4 min
[03:36] <NoUse> !tell eric about restricted
[03:36] <Madpilot> eric__, best advice about automatix is 'don't use it'
[03:36] <Healot> eric__: install libxine-extracodecs and libdvdcss2
[03:36] <nickrud> anfangs, amachu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/CJK_Chinese_Japanese_Korean_Input_Method_configuration_using_SCIM_in_Ubuntu_6%2e06_Dapper_Drake has some info about openoffice
[03:36] <Remy> NoUse: MY windows and linux partitions are the same size...
[03:36] <NoUse> !tell eric__ about restricted
[03:36] <rayston> or...it mighta been the kernel image updates? or both, hard to tell
[03:36] <Consty> man, after adding a 512mb stick of ram in my laptop going from 256 to 768mb, so much faster :)
[03:36] <NoUse> Remy well the largest linux parition yes
[03:36] <anfangs> nickrud: wrong person?
[03:36] <Mike-X2> How do i get ld in my way, and dos it have to be done before or after shutdown of X
[03:36] <Remy> NoUse: ok, thanks :) here goes nothing...
[03:36] <nickrud> anfangs, yup, amachu see my post just above
[03:37] <neuro_> Consty: more ram rocks, eh? :)
[03:38] <athayde> hello, there is somebody to help me with something ?
[03:38] <amachu> nickrud: thank u
[03:38] <nickrud> amachu, yw
[03:38] <wastrel> athayde:  we don't know until you ask the question :] 
[03:38] <eric__> healot: how?
[03:39] <Cntryboy> Guys I just now got unreal tournament installed and it works. The thing is is when I go to 1024x768 resolution it drops the game and leaves me with a distorted screen
[03:39] <Mike-X2> How do i get ld in my way, and dos it have to be done before or after shutdown of X
[03:39] <athayde> wastrel, but I already ask about it. Well, withou P.C., I can't find my musics that I already download using amule
[03:39] <krazykit> Mike-X2: install ld, and it should be in your path
[03:40] <lwizardl> how do i install postfix using apt
[03:40] <yoink> question...how do i use privoxy/tor with irc without getting banned from here, or can i?
[03:40] <wastrel> athayde:  sorry, scrolls fast in here.  - in the amule configuration does it specify the download directory?
[03:40] <wastrel> athayde:  i don't use amule...
[03:40] <Mike-X2> oooh ok in synapt.???
[03:40] <Cin> wastrel, it sure does.
[03:40] <krazykit> Mike-X2: yep
[03:40] <Healot> yoink: my experience, Freenode is ok with proxy/onion router
[03:40] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[03:40] <Mike-X2> thx m8
[03:40] <Cntryboy> Guys I just now got unreal tournament installed and it works. The thing is is when I go to 1024x768 resolution it drops the game and leaves me with a distorted screen
[03:40] <elicia> i dont fit in here
[03:40] <krazykit> Mike-X2: and for future reference, it's in your path, not your way ;-)
[03:41] <Cntryboy> why won't my resolution work
[03:41] <Cin> wastrel, Preferences > Directories.
[03:41] <Cntryboy> guys and gals
[03:41] <athayde> wastrel, the software says that any music will be at incoming dir
[03:41] <eric> why did ubotu msg me?
[03:41] <Cntryboy> elicia :)
[03:41] <athayde> but I can't find... that is very strange
[03:41] <krazykit> eric: because someone told it to
[03:41] <eric> oh
[03:41] <Madpilot> athayde, what's the incoming directory supposed to be?
[03:41] <eric> i didnt see that i was in any channels with it and was just curious why
[03:41] <Cin> Madpilot, "My Shared Folder", for completed downloads.
[03:42] <Cntryboy> so does anyone know why I can't get unreal tournament to keep 102x768 resolution?
[03:42] <krazykit> eric: a lot of common questions can be answered by ubotu, and we'll just have ubotu message you for simplicity's sake
[03:42] <wastrel> athayde:  what does it say in Preferences > Directories for your download directory?
[03:42] <Madpilot> Cin, that sounds more like a Windows folder than a Linux thing
[03:42] <xsquared> hi
[03:42] <eric__> how do i uninstall automatix
[03:42] <NoUse> Cntryboy check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if its gives any clues
[03:42] <athayde> wastrel,  /home/user/.amule/incoming
[03:42] <eric> oh maybe it was for eric__
[03:42] <athayde> but doesn't show the dir
[03:42] <Cin> Madpilot, yah, I'm telling you what "Incoming Directory's" equivilant is.
[03:42] <krazykit> eric: hahaha, probably.
[03:42] <Cntryboy> nouse like what kind of clues
[03:42] <Gullstad> Were can I get the .wav codec?
[03:42] <NoUse> eric sorry yeah that was my fault
[03:43] <eric> i run ubuntu so im like wow does the server read my mind? :D
[03:43] <wastrel> athayde:  yes that's because .amule is a hidden directory.  there should be an option in your file browser to show those
[03:43] <Cin> Cntryboy, dude. Can you direct me to the documentation to how you got UT working on Linux?
[03:43] <yoink> Healot, I got banned from the #ubuntu channel after i enabled it...not sure how to get around that...unbanned as soon as i turned it off
[03:43] <Gullstad> Sorry, I ment the .wmv
[03:43] <xsquared> in cedega, i try run battlefield2, the mouse is stuck at the select spawn point screen
[03:43] <wastrel> athayde:  or maybe you can type that path directly into the location bar
[03:43] <Madpilot> athayde, see the dot in front of amule? (.amule) - that means it's a hidden directory
[03:43] <Dial_tone> I don't understand amule, the servers show ping times that are like 40-50 MINUTES. whats the deal with that/
[03:43] <Cntryboy> sure cin
[03:43] <krazykit> xsquared: you really ought to ask that at the cedega forums or irc, if they have one
[03:43] <xsquared> i have found many posts about this happening but none of them provide a fix
[03:43] <Cin> Cntryboy, nice one mate
[03:43] <Cntryboy> I searched all day for it
[03:43] <Cntryboy> :)
[03:43] <athayde> Madpilot, well, what should I do about it?
[03:44] <xsquared> krazykit, it only happens in ubuntu dapper
[03:44] <eric__> how do i uninstall automatix
[03:44] <Mike-X2> ld? is that the util. ldap???
[03:44] <Madpilot> athayde, does amule have an option to change where it directs the downloads/
[03:44] <Cntryboy> http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51
[03:44] <Cin> Madpilot, yes it does!
[03:44] <Cntryboy> cin go here http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51
[03:44] <Cin> Madpilot, Preferences > Directories.
[03:44] <athayde> Madpilot, let me see
[03:44] <Madpilot> athayde, see what Cin has just typed
[03:45] <krazykit> Mike-X2: nope.
[03:45] <Cin> Cntryboy, awesome, thanks mate.
[03:45] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: ld? is that the util. ldap???
[03:45] <nickrud> eric__, automatix is a one way trip
[03:45] <Cntryboy> np
[03:45] <Mike-X2> ooh ok sry
[03:45] <athayde> Cin, I've already did that and doesn't have an answer
[03:45] <krazykit> Mike-X2: i don't think so./
[03:45] <athayde> none dir show up
[03:45] <Cin> athayde, doesn't have an answer?
[03:45] <eric__> nickrud is it bad?
[03:45] <Cntryboy> cin after u dl that, then go on left down to faq and it tells u how to install it
[03:45] <nickrud> !automatix
[03:46] <Cin> Cntryboy, aye fantastic.
[03:46] <krazykit> Mike-X2: lemme find what package it's in
[03:46] <nickrud> arg, ubotu
[03:46] <eric__> !automatx
[03:46] <ubotu> eric__: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:46] <nickrud> !tell eric about automatix
[03:46] <athayde> Cin, yes... the dir didn't show up
[03:46] <nickrud> erm, eric sorry
[03:46] <Mike-X2> krazykit: how and where
[03:46] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know how to make UT keep my 1024x768 resolution when I try to choose it?
[03:46] <eric__> nickrud is it bad to have?
[03:47] <Cin> athayde, doesn't yours look like this? http://rtfs.ath.cx/amulescreenshot.jpg
[03:47] <krazykit> Mike-X2: install binutils
[03:47] <nickrud> eric__, you just got a pm with a firm opinion from ubotu
[03:47] <eric__> nickrud some one in here told me to get it
[03:47] <Cin> Cntryboy, I know there's a configuration file in the UT directory that can set it as default... (I don't have it on my computer -- yet), but worth having a look?
[03:47] <eric__> :(
[03:47] <L-----D> quick question: can i install the amd64 version on intel 64bit box
[03:47] <athayde> Cin, yes
[03:48] <nickrud> L-----D, yes
[03:48] <Cin> athayde, hm, so what's the problem?
[03:48] <L-----D> nickrud: thanks mate
[03:48] <Cin> athayde, 'Incoming Directory'
[03:48] <Cntryboy> okay thanks
[03:48] <Healot> L-----D: if it's the EMT64 P4, YES, if you're thinking of Itanium, NO
[03:48] <eric__> so it is impossible ot get rid of automatix?
[03:48] <Cntryboy> let me try
[03:48] <eric__> that is dumb
[03:48] <Mike-X2> krazykit: ive tryed lookin on them but dont know wich one??
[03:48] <eric__> it says it will crash my system
[03:48] <nickrud> learn something new, every day
[03:48] <Cin> Cntryboy, aye it has stuff about the refresh rate, so I can only expect it has resolution settings.
[03:49] <eric> =)
[03:49] <eric__> should i reinstall my OS
[03:49] <krazykit> Mike-X2: just install "binutils"
[03:49] <krazykit> Mike-X2: "binutils" contains ld
[03:49] <Cin> eric__, why would you reinstall the OS, what's up?
[03:49] <yoink> !test
[03:49] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:49] <wastrel> jim jam
[03:49] <eric__>  cin someone told me to get automatix and i did
[03:49] <athayde> Cin, yes... I see the dir... but when I click... none file open up
[03:49] <Cntryboy> it has resolution settings, but when I choose the reso I want it closes the game and has my screen big and oblonged. I have to hit ctrl+alt+backspace to get normal screen
[03:49] <eric__> cin and someone else told me it will crash my system and u cant get rid of it
[03:49] <athayde> I don't know what to do at this moment
[03:50] <Mike-X2> krazykit: i know but dont know wich
[03:50] <athayde> I'm new using linux, just for everybody knows
[03:50] <baconbacon> !automatix
[03:50] <krazykit> Mike-X2: there is no "which".  there's a package called binutils.  just plain binutils.  install it.
[03:50] <devnull> does anyone know about ftp support in eclpse ?
[03:50] <Mike-X2> krazykit: theres some binutils
[03:50] <devnull> eclipse
[03:50] <Cin> athayde, ohh. So the files have downloaded, but they're not in your "Incoming Directory" yet?
[03:50] <Mike-X2> krazykit: rgr
[03:50] <baconbacon> eric__: easyubuntu may be a better solution
[03:50] <krazykit> Mike-X2: install the one called "binutils".  nothing else.
[03:51] <nickrud> eric__, may break, if you used automatix right after the install, you probably will survive
[03:51] <athayde> Cin, yes
[03:51] <eric__> baconbacon whats that
[03:51] <Cin> athayde, that is odd. They are usually copied from your "Temporary Directory" to the "Incoming", have you checked the temporary?
[03:51] <baconbacon> eric__: especially, dont uninstall stuff automatix installed
[03:51] <Cin> athayde: ~/.aMule/Temp
[03:51] <eric__> baconbacon dont uninstall stuff?
[03:51] <kbrooks> baconbacon: you CAN
[03:52] <KyoLptp`> is there a way to enable mouse trails?
[03:52] <kbrooks> baconbacon: you're allowed to
[03:52] <sam1001> is ubuntu a debian dist?
[03:52] <baconbacon> sure you can
[03:52] <eric__> nickrud i tried to use it
[03:52] <wastrel> sam1001:  it's debian based but has its own package repositories
[03:52] <glennus> sam1001: aye, ubuntu is debian-based.
[03:52] <krazykit> sam1001: it's based on debian sid
[03:52] <kbrooks> baconbacon: automatix doesnt hardwire itself into ubuntu
[03:52] <athayde> Cin, wait a second
[03:52] <eric__> i donteven know how to use automatix
[03:52] <nickrud> eric__, listen to kbrooks on this I think
[03:52] <Cin> Cntryboy, any luck?
[03:52] <eric__> kbrooks can i delete it?
[03:53] <kbrooks> baconbacon: all it does is overwrite the sources.list. it does put it back on request
[03:53] <sam1001> i use mepis, has anyone heard of this one
[03:53] <athayde> I resolve the situation right now
[03:53] <athayde> finally
[03:53] <Cin> automatix... what's wrong with Synaptic?
[03:53] <krazykit> sam1001: i've heard of it.
[03:53] <Cin> athayde, what was the problem?
[03:53] <NoUse> eric__ http://www.getautomatix.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=24#3
[03:53] <kbrooks> baconbacon: well, not "on request", but when it must
[03:53] <baconbacon> kbrooks: i know what automatix does
[03:53] <athayde> ~/.aMule/icoming directory
[03:53] <kbrooks> baconbacon: after it exits
[03:53] <athayde> that's right?
[03:53] <yoink> can a mod tell me why #ubuntu is banning tor users?
[03:53] <Cin> athayde, aye.
[03:54] <Cntryboy> shit how can I get my screen resolution normal again with out alt+ctrl+backspace
[03:54] <baconbacon> im not here for questions but for helping others
[03:54] <benkong2> help???? my grand children just showed up and I need to make a quick game only user. Can someone help me?
[03:54] <Cntryboy> my reso is jacked up
[03:54] <kbrooks> yoink: it isnt
[03:54] <kbrooks> yoink: not actively
[03:54] <yoink> kbrooks, ok, must be a prob on my end i guess...
[03:54] <Cntryboy> anyone
[03:54] <sam1001> Krazykit, have you had problems with writing data to a flash drive
[03:54] <Cntryboy> I cant get around my pc like this
[03:54] <athayde> nou, that's wrong, Cin
[03:54] <Cntryboy> I can't see what im typing
[03:54] <athayde> I can't find the dir
[03:54] <lwizardl> whats the catch to install postfix
[03:54] <athayde> what will be the command or syntax ?
[03:54] <NoUse> Cntryboy Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart X
[03:54] <sam1001> krazykit, I have changed the permissions to all, but still couldn't write to disk
[03:54] <kbrooks> yoink: you're banned, but it wasnt your fault
[03:54] <krazykit> sam1001: not since i used a certain patchset with 2.6.13.  so not recently
[03:54] <Cntryboy> how do I get my resolution fixed to my default settings with out ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:55] <Madpilot> yoink, there's a longstanding ban on tor here because all it seems to get used for is spam bots
[03:55] <Cin> athayde, cd ~/.aMule
[03:55] <Healot> NoUse: so does the power button heh
[03:55] <Cin> athayde, do a: ls
[03:55] <NoUse> benkong2 just create a new user, don't make them a memeber of the admin group and they won't be able to install anything
[03:55] <wastrel> what's tor
[03:55] <Cntryboy> I don't want to lose my apps and pages im reading
[03:55] <krazykit> sam1001: maybe it's mounted read-only, or maybe it's ntfs.
[03:55] <Cin> Cntryboy, you on GNOME?
[03:55] <NoUse> Healot well this does it without taking down your entire system which is handy
[03:55] <Cntryboy> yes
[03:55] <sam1001> crazykit, i think it's formated as FAT
[03:55] <Cin> Cntryboy, there's a setting in preferences for resolution...
[03:56] <Cntryboy> I tried that it doesn't change it back
[03:56] <Cntryboy> and says its on what its supposed to be
[03:56] <sam1001> Is that why it can't write data to the flash drive
[03:56] <Cntryboy> but obviously its not
[03:56] <Cntryboy> lol
[03:56] <Cin> Ohh, haha. It doesn't know. Hm.
[03:56] <benkong2> NoUse: ok I did that thanks guess I gotta install all the games I can find. I guess they need to be a member of the audio group also to hear sounds correct?
[03:56] <krazykit> sam1001: well, it's mounted, right?  if you type "mount" at the command line, it'll tell you the mount options.  see if it isn't rw.
[03:56] <Cin> Cntryboy, change it to somethin else, then change it back to what you want?
[03:56] <Cntryboy> kk
[03:56] <NoUse> benkong2 yeah, run 'groups' on your user account and copy that except for admin
[03:57] <Cntryboy> thx mate
[03:57] <NoUse> benkong2 synaptic has a section of games
[03:57] <yoink> kbrooks, Madpilot, ok...any ideas how i can anonymize in here?
[03:57] <Cin> Cntryboy, :D
[03:57] <lwizardl> i'm trying to do an apt-get install postfix but it keeps failing "Package postfix-tls is a virtual package provided by: postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 You should explicitly select one to install" then i've tried "apt-get install 'postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1' " and still fails E: Couldn't find package postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1
[03:57] <sam1001> krazykit, I right clicked the mounted disk icon and changed the permission but still the same
[03:57] <Cntryboy> that damn ut game when I try to get those resolution settings i want it closes the game and does that
[03:57] <Cin> athayde, what is the directory in "Incoming Directory" on aMule's preferences?
[03:57] <benkong2> NoUse: thanks
[03:57] <Cntryboy> anyclue whats wrong?
[03:57] <Madpilot> yoink, no idea - Freenode will give you a hostmask anytime, if you don't want your IP shown
[03:57] <NoUse> benkong2 np
[03:57] <athayde> Cin, /home/user/.aMule/Temp
[03:57] <spikeb> Cin: probably where data you are downloading goes until the download is finished
[03:57] <Cin> athayde, what is in that directory?
[03:57] <sam1001> krazykit, I was using mepis linux 2004
[03:58] <Cntryboy> is amule a sharing program like emule?
[03:58] <eric__> nickrud i removed it
[03:58] <Cntryboy> for windows?
[03:58] <yoink> Madpilot, im kinda an irc newb, how do i get this hostmask?
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, never had any trouble of that sort.
[03:58] <krazykit> sam1001: then perhaps go ask a mepis channel.
[03:58] <eric__> nickrud u said i couldnt
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, aye, it's eMule for Linux.
[03:58] <Cntryboy> cool where can I download it at?
[03:58] <Madpilot> yoink, join #freenode & ask there
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, it's on Synaptic.
[03:58] <yoink> Madpilot, k, thanks
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, or sudo apt-get install amule
[03:58] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install amule?
[03:58] <Cin> ;D
[03:58] <Cntryboy> yup okay thx
[03:58] <nickrud> eric__, I didn't say not to remove it, I said it was a one way trip. Last time I looked, it was.
[03:59] <athayde> Cin, when I click for open the incoming directory... nothing happen'd
[03:59] <eric__> nouse thanks i think that got rid of it
[03:59] <sam1001> krazykit, -
[03:59] <sam1001> mepis That channel doesn't exist
[03:59] <sam1001> -
[03:59] <Cntryboy> its downloading :)
[03:59] <eric__> nickrud i know what u meant i mean, u just scared me cuz i though ti had it forevor
[03:59] <adamant1988> hi all
[03:59] <adamant1988> :)
[03:59] <laozi> Why does Ubuntu freeze 50% of the time right before the splash login screen?
[03:59] <krazykit> sam1001: i only said i'd heard of it, not used it.  maybe if you went to the site, they'd have forums or a channel you could see
[03:59] <sam1001> guess it's too unpopular to be listed here
[03:59] <Cntryboy> how big is the total file?
[03:59] <krazykit> sam1001: or it might not be on freenode.
[03:59] <eric__> nouse thanks i think its gone now
[04:00] <NoUse> eric__ cool
[04:00] <Cin> Cntryboy, if you click Details it should say the size.
[04:00] <nickrud> eric__, sorry, I get a little over verbal sometimes. Glad things are well ;)
[04:00] <Cin> athayde, are you using the File Browser? And have you checked both directories (Incoming and Temporary)?
[04:00] <sam1001> krazykit, do you do compile your programs on ubuntu
[04:00] <NoUse> laozi do you have an nvidia card?
[04:00] <krazykit> sam1001: on occasion i do.
[04:00] <eric__> nickrud no problem i appreciate all the jhelp i get caus ei have no clue what i am doing
[04:01] <morphix> how can i stop xfce4-panel from loading at startup?
[04:01] <athayde> Cin, well... I've already say to you... I found it, but I can open it
[04:01] <Cntryboy> i don't see a anything in the terminal where it says details
[04:01] <athayde> the incoming directory
[04:01] <Cin> Cntryboy, must be installing if it's a terminal.
[04:01] <laozi> NoUse, Not sure, its an IBM ThinkPad T21, I can go find the specs...
[04:01] <krazykit> sam1001: the site says the channel is #mepis
[04:01] <j-linux> Finally got Dapper working today.  Can't seem to get the ATI drivers to work.  I never could get them working in Breezy -- the online instructions would never work.  EasyUbuntu wouldn't work either.  I tried Easy Ubuntu twice today and didn't really get any messages from EasyUbuntu.  Am still getting about 3 frames per second.
[04:01] <Cin> Cntryboy, ohh, thought you were using Synaptic. Hehe.
[04:02] <Cntryboy> cin, no details button in terminal wheres its downloading
[04:02] <Cntryboy> yes from term
[04:02] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, I didn't at the # sign
[04:02] <Cin> Cntryboy, it ain't big. You on broadband?
[04:02] <NoUse> laozi I gotta go, but search the forums are ask here about disabling ACPI
[04:02] <krazykit> sam1001: all channels are preceded by an #
[04:02] <Cin> athayde, are you at the directory, or can't you get to it?
[04:02] <NoUse> laozi that might help
[04:02] <Cntryboy> no 2.1KB dialup lol
[04:03] <Cin> Cntryboy, oh man. :P
[04:03] <laozi> okay thanks
[04:03] <wastrel> dapper eh
[04:03] <wastrel> i've heard of it
[04:03] <nickrud> I think I see my first sparc user
[04:03] <Cin> nickrud, sparc user?
[04:03] <Cin> Cntryboy, it's 3Mb.
[04:03] <yoink> Madpilot, i tried asking in #freenode, but I can't talk
[04:03] <Cntryboy> yah thats how I feel also :(
[04:04] <krazykit> Cin: sun ultra 5 is a sparc box
[04:04] <nickrud> Cin, new hardware that dapper supports
[04:04] <Cin> Cool.
[04:04] <j-linux> Anyone else here with a thinkpad t43 with ATI driver problems?
[04:04] <tript> i've just installed pekwm on my new Ubuntu system, brought in my old menu file and have had to tweak a few things, but can't get a terminal to run (in my case, eterm).  any ideas/suggestions please?
[04:04] <thunderbear> nickrud, you have something to do with ubuntu-sparc port?
[04:04] <fiveiron> ugh
[04:04] <Cntryboy> shit prob 1 hour then
[04:04] <Cntryboy> ok ill bb in a few then
[04:04] <Madpilot> yoink, hmm, you should be automatically voiced when you join #freenode - are you registered & identified w/ Freenode yet?
[04:04] <sam1001> is ubuntu packaged with sun sparc system
[04:04] <wastrel> j-linux:  i'm on a thinkpad t42, ati works decent
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> I want to get an ultra 30 or something if it now supports sparc
[04:04] <wastrel> j-linux:  i'm using the default install, haven't tried fglrx yet
[04:04] <remoteBoy> how can i set permissions on a folder so that when any user adds a file to it, all other users can rwx it (including samba users)?
[04:04] <fiveiron> every time the restricted drivers and nvidia-glx are updated I end up running at 640x480.... *sigh*
[04:04] <nickrud> thunderbear, no, no, just noticing. I don't even remember being in the same room with one
[04:04] <krazykit> sam1001: it supports sparc now.
[04:04] <j-linux> wastrel: I don't understand what is wrong.
[04:04] <eric__> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it
[04:05] <yoink> Madpilot, nope
[04:05] <j-linux> wastrel: you haven't installed a driver for it?
[04:05] <thunderbear> I just installed it on an Ultra 5.  It went on flawlessly.  It's going through "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" now :)
[04:05] <Madpilot> yoink, /msg nickserv help
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> krazykit: Do you have any sparc kit ? I had a Netra T1 for a bit
[04:05] <wastrel> j-linux:  i'm just using the default install, want to see my xorg.conf?
[04:05] <j-linux> wastrel: my screensavers are jerky... 3 frames per second maybe
[04:05] <thunderbear> later this weekend I am going to try it on an Ultra 2 because I have the hardware and I am a masochist
[04:05] <wastrel> well i'm not using any 3d stuff at the moment.
[04:05] <sam1001> I have several keyboards for sun system
[04:05] <sam1001> but I can't use it on a PC
[04:06] <krazykit> h3sp4wn: haha, no. i'm not old enough to have amassed a computer collection ;-)
[04:06] <thunderbear> when I get to work on Monday I have a Sunfire V880 that is unused that will be getting Ubuntu :)
[04:06] <fiveiron> anyone else at 640x480 after these last nvidia-glx updates?
[04:06] <krazykit> sam1001: sure you can.  i think there are pci cards that'll convert it.
[04:06] <athayde> finally
[04:06] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, they are like 80 bux
[04:06] <j-linux> wastrel: my computer works fine, except for the screen savers and anything 3D -- I don't really play games on it though.  Would like my screensavers to work though.
[04:06] <athayde> I found my songs, Cin
[04:06] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: cant seem to stop X??? what can i be doin wrong??
[04:06] <Cin> fiveiron, nope... though mine was updated before... and I haven't restarted X yet. :O
[04:06] <wastrel> j-linux:  have you seen the ati page on the wiki?
[04:06] <athayde> thanks
[04:06] <Cin> athayde, good. :)
[04:06] <Jeeves_Moss> all: any one in here have a sudgestion for a graphical alternitive to BIND?
[04:06] <krazykit> Mike-X2: i have no idea what you're trying to do, honestly
[04:06] <wastrel> j-linux:  i haven't bothered with it yet - but i did get fglrx working under breezy
[04:07] <Mike-X2> have installed binutils thou
[04:07] <krazykit> sam1001: feh, nothing a soldering iron and some bits of wire can't fix ;-)
[04:07] <Cin> remoteBoy, do you know UNIX file permissions?
[04:07] <j-linux> waster: I went through that twice with Breezy... just made it impossible to get into X so I had to reverse everything.
[04:07] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: need to install GFX
[04:07] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: NV
[04:07] <eric__> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it?
[04:08] <j-linux> (wastrel -- sorry, a bit dislexic)
[04:08] <sam1001> krazykit, I actually read an article about how to make an adapter for it
[04:08] <athayde> Cin, well, now the problem is with my xmms
[04:08] <krazykit> Mike-X2: ooooh.  well if you drop to a virtual terminal (crtl-alt-f1) and log in there, do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[04:08] <remoteBoy> Cin, yea, but i dont want to keep chmod 'ing everything after someone adds a new file
[04:08] <krazykit> Mike-X2: that ought to get rid of X for you
[04:08] <wastrel> j-linux:  i remember a mistake in the wiki page for breezy actually.
[04:08] <athayde> I can't listen or to play any songs
[04:08] <Mike-X2> krazy: just done that, but X still there
[04:08] <sam1001> it was quite complicated
[04:08] <Cin> remoteBoy, aye, do it for the directory.
[04:08] <krazykit> Mike-X2: sudo killall Xorg
[04:08] <Jeeves_Moss> taunt cin
[04:08] <Remy> hi guys, anyone around had much experience installing GRUB ?
[04:09] <eric__> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it
[04:09] <Cin> Jeeves_Moss, :O
[04:09] <remoteBoy> Cin, so any file or folder inside the directory will inherit the permissions also?
[04:09] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy: what do you need to know?
[04:09] <wastrel> j-linux:  the wiki page looks pretty simple for dapper tho https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:09] <j-linux> wastrel: I'll check it again now.
[04:09] <remoteBoy> Cin, when added/changed?
[04:09] <Cin> remoteBoy, so the theory goes.
[04:09] <sam1001> crazykit, are you a developer for ubuntu
[04:09] <Cin> athayde, what's up with XMMS?
[04:09] <krazykit> sam1001: my nick starts with a k... but no, i'm not
[04:09] <Remy> Jeeves_Moss:  - I'm trying to reinstall grub after loading windows (which wiped it)...  I need to know how to work out which my root drive is for grub.
[04:09] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: ok killall in virtual mode??
[04:09] <Cin> KRazyKit. :P
[04:10] <Kwek> hi
[04:10] <j-linux> wastrel: be back to let you know if it works :S
[04:10] <krazykit> Mike-X2: yes.
[04:10] <remoteBoy> Cin, theory eh
[04:10] <wastrel> gl :] 
[04:10] <Remy> Jeeves_Moss:  I know my linux partition is hda2, but not sure what else I need
[04:10] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, sorry about that
[04:10] <Kwek> if i install apache+php+mysql from the source downloaded from the websites, how do i uninstall them?
[04:10] <Mike-X2> Krazykit thx
[04:10] <athayde> Cin, nothing... I resolve this problem
[04:10] <planetcall> goodmorning peeps
[04:10] <Cin> athayde, well in.
[04:10] <krazykit> sam1001: nah, it just hilights my nick if you spell it right.  helps me see if someone's talking at me ;-)
[04:10] <eric__> how do i change my name
[04:10] <mathewfer> Hi I just installed the Ubuntu 6.06 but I can not get the WPA to work? can you help?
[04:10] <sam1001> but don't get me adapted to it cause i'm gonna make wrong spellings thereafter
[04:10] <krazykit> eric__: /nick name
[04:10] <tript> eric_: /nick lookielookiemynewname
[04:10] <Mark1412> hey!, what you guys use for uploading and downloading music onto your ipod???
[04:10] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy:  I foudn the simplest thing to do was to install Windows (after partitioning off enough drive space for Ubuntu), then installing Linux second.  Otherwise, I think if you try to reinstall Ubuntu (but quitting the install before it actuly installs the main system (just grub), you shoudl be find.
[04:11] <js_> Mark1412: internetz
[04:11] <krazykit> sam1001: you know about tab completion, right?  you type the first few letters of the nick and hit tab.  it'll complete it
[04:11] <Mark1412> js_: where can i get this from
[04:11] <name> krazykit thanks
[04:11] <Remy> hm, Jeeves_Moss - might try that...
[04:11] <krazykit> name: haha, you replace name with the nick you want
[04:11] <Remy> thanks
[04:11] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, good idea
[04:11] <BSG75> hi anyone know howto install a Promise Fastrak 100 as raid0?
[04:12] <tript> oh look ubuntu has joined ubuntu
[04:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy:  best sudgestion is if you don't have anything important on your Ubuntu install, just reinstall it.
[04:12] <FWO> alright thanks
[04:12] <Remy> Jeeves_Moss: I do have some stuff that I'd prefer to keep if possible
[04:12] <FWO> haha
[04:12] <Remy> which is why I'm trying to re-load GRUB...
[04:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy:  I've got to run.  Off to my third job for today.
[04:12] <mathewfer> I jst installed Ubuntu 6.06 and unbale to get the WPA working? can tell me a link to find a way to get it up?
[04:12] <Remy> :)
[04:12] <Cin> remoteBoy, provided the creators of the file are in the same group, and the owner set the folder with group read/write/change permissions, users in the same group will have these permissions of that folder. Makes sense?
[04:13] <FWO> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it
[04:13] <krazykit> Remy: oh, that's easy.  load up the liveCD, chroot into your system, and rerun grub-install.  the important bits of these steps are around somewhere.
[04:13] <yoink_23> Madpilot, ok, im all registered, but i still can't talk...also, #freenode forwarded me to #freenode-social
[04:13] <morphix> mathewfer: For easy WPA support in Ubuntu 6.06, install the package network-manager-gnome, then log out and in. Otherwise install wpasupplicant and read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.
[04:13] <Kwek> if i install apache+php+mysql from the source downloaded from the websites, how do i uninstall them?
[04:13] <FWO> i really want to be able to play dvds
[04:13] <Remy> krazykit: - I allready have the guide to doing that, but it's the "important bits" that I don't know ;-)
[04:13] <Cin> yoink_23, you have to identify. /msg nickserv identify <password>
[04:13] <FWO> but i cant
[04:13] <FWO> it wont recognize
[04:13] <krazykit> Remy: aaah.  which bits? the chroot or the grub part?
[04:14] <Cin> yoink_23, oh, you are identified.
[04:14] <Remy> krazykit:  the grub part
[04:14] <krazykit> Remy: hrm, how're your hard drives set up?
[04:14] <Madpilot> yoink_23, #freenode will sometimes forward to another channel - but you should be getting voice automatically when you join it... odd
[04:14] <Remy> krazykit: - just 1 hdd, has two main partitions, one for windows, one for linux.
[04:14] <sam1001> is ubuntu easy to install?
[04:14] <tript> anyone here use pekwm?
[04:14] <mathewfer> morphix: can I know what are the packages needed to install for network manager?
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, my teacher can install Ubuntu.
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, it's _that_ easy.
[04:15] <Cin> :P
[04:15] <sam1001> Cin, who's your teacher
[04:15] <yoink_23> Madpilot, "#freenode-social :Cannot send to channel"
[04:15] <dataangel> Is there an emacs .deb somewhere I can download that has gtk _and_ xft support? emacs-snapshot-gtk appears to be lacking xft
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, David Hasselhoff.
[04:15] <morphix> mathewfer: just install it using synaptic.. it will auto handle the dependecies for you
[04:15] <sam1001> Cin, he must be really good at installing linux
[04:15] <Madpilot> yoink_23, odd
[04:15] <FlimFlamMan> is there a way to specify whether or not the contents of a window is displayed while dragging it?
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, oh, the Hoff is. :P
[04:16] <krazykit> Remy: i don't recall the exact syntax, is the problem.  lemme search for a minute
[04:16] <Cin> sam1001, why, are you having problems?
[04:16] <mathewfer> morphix: I do not have the Internet connection so I need to get them & install them manually first to get the netwrok access.
[04:16] <sam1001> I've spent days just to get Gentoo installed on my PC
[04:16] <Remy> thanks krazykit
[04:16] <Cin> FlimFlamMan, depends on the window manager.
[04:16] <FlimFlamMan> default in dapper
[04:16] <FlimFlamMan> metacity i guess?
[04:16] <Kwek> does ubuntu support rpms?
[04:16] <sam1001> but couldn't load because I didn't know how to install grub
[04:16] <morphix> how can i stop xfce4-panel from loading at startup..?
[04:16] <Kwek> RPM*
[04:16] <Cin> morphix, do you use GDM or startx?
[04:16] <krazykit> Remy: i THINK the command would be sudo grub-install hd0
[04:16] <morphix> gdm.
[04:16] <iiiears> Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?
[04:17] <Madpilot> Kwek, it uses .deb files natively, not rpm
[04:17] <Cin> Kwek, check out alien.
[04:17] <Remy> krazykit: the command in the doco is grub-install /dev/hdaX
[04:17] <Remy> the prob is that when I do that it doesn't work :P
[04:17] <morphix> Cin: i use GDM
[04:17] <krazykit> Remy: then it's wrong. grub's site says it's hd0
[04:17] <Cin> morphix, it's in the GDM session, or should be.
[04:18] <Kwek> if i install apache+php+mysql from the source downloaded from the websites, how do i uninstall them?
[04:18] <morphix> Cin: and how do i change it?
[04:18] <krazykit> Remy: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Invoking-grub-install.html  according to that anyway
[04:18] <Cin> morphix, but I don't use GDM, and can't remember where that configuration is.
[04:18] <Remy> hmk, thanks krazykit - will read through that
[04:18] <Cin> morphix, lemmie have a gander.
[04:18] <FWO> how do i get to sudo
[04:18] <morphix> Cin: ok
[04:19] <Cin> FWO, sudo <command>
[04:19] <fiveiron> ugh.. whats the command to reconfigure X?
[04:19] <Esquire> I'm looking to use my ubuntu server for NAT/Gateway ... Cable Modem ==> Ubuntu Box ==> Netgear Wireless Router ==> Clients.  Do I just need IPTABLES to accomplish this?
[04:19] <FWO> cin what does that mean
[04:19] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell FWO about sudo
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, oh, here we go.
[04:19] <FWO> cin how do i get to sudo
[04:19] <Nathanael> I connvinced a friend to install Ubuntu (he's worked with *nix before) and he was telling me today how impressed he was with how far it's come
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, http://fedoranews.org/contributors/diego_figueroa/xfce/
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, find /etc/X11/dm/Sessions/xfce.desktop
[04:19] <wastrel> fiveiron:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:19] <Madpilot> FWO, when you need to use sudo, just stick 'sudo' in front of the command you need to run - "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", for example
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, is it there?
[04:19] <fiveiron> thank you
[04:19] <morphix> Cin: checking.
[04:19] <sam1001> can you boot ubuntu through LAN
[04:20] <siriusnova> hey guys any word on the Thinkpad Suspend / Hibernate problem?
[04:20] <Cin> FWO, it means if you want to run a command, such as, mkdir, you would do: sudo mkdir
[04:20] <planetcall> Nathanael, we all are !
[04:20] <iiiears> Esquire - Firestarter is a GUI for IPTABLES - I think firestarter will help.
[04:20] <FWO> nadpilot where do i type the command
[04:20] <Nathanael> indedd
[04:20] <Nathanael> *indeed
[04:20] <Cin> iiiears, man Firestarter rocks my socks.
[04:20] <Nathanael> (mac keyboard)
[04:20] <krazykit> sam_: assuming your computer supports boot-from-lan, it should work.
[04:20] <wastrel> socks, eh
[04:20] <Healot> sam1001: not ubuntu... does your network card support LAN...
[04:20] <Esquire> thnx iiears... I've never worked with iptables, so I need something as simple as possible
[04:21] <iiiears> Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?
[04:21] <krazykit> sam1001: assuming your computer supports boot-from-lan, it shoudl work.  in short, anything another linux distro can do, ubuntu can do.  linux is linux, pretty much.
[04:21] <sam1001> Krazykit, so ubuntu is like a server os
[04:21] <krazykit> sam1001: it can be.
[04:21] <iiiears> Esquire - If firestarter isn't easy enough i will give you double your money back
[04:21] <krazykit> sam1001: though it's mostly used as a desktop os
[04:21] <Remy> how can I find where my /boot is?
[04:21] <Cin> iiiears, I think if you can mount it, you can symlink it. But not sure.
[04:21] <Esquire> 2 x $0 ... pretty good deal, iiears
[04:22] <eugman> Iiears, why not give him triple his money back?  :)
[04:22] <krazykit> Remy: if it's not a seperate partition, you shouldn't need it
[04:22] <Remy> ahk
[04:22] <j-linux> wastrel: no luck.  It is apparently installed but still 3 fps.
[04:22] <Cin> sam1001, I run my web server on Ubuntu, but I'm using it now as a desktop computer also. ^__^
[04:22] <Remy> so even if I have two partitions it should still be installed to hd0 ?
[04:22] <Esquire> krazykit... there's a special server install that has options for a LAMP server and whatnot...
[04:22] <morphix> Cin: there is no /X11/dm/Sessions
[04:22] <krazykit> Remy: it should install to the MBR, which has nothing to do with the partitions
[04:23] <Esquire> I do the server install, then pull in whatever desktop I feel like
[04:23] <Remy> ok
[04:23] <Remy> thanks
[04:23] <Remy> here goes :)
[04:23] <Cin> morphix, oh, sorry. I copied it from that web site. It has an error.
[04:23] <sam1001> that's certainly something win98 can't do
[04:23] <Cin> morphix, /etc/gdm/Sessions/
[04:23] <krazykit> Esquire: yes, but i'd still say ubuntu is more focussed on the desktop.
[04:23] <morphix> Cin: there's no Sessions there.
[04:23] <Remy> hey, if I hold down "ctrl + alt + F1" to change to tty, how do I get back into the standard ubuntu desktop ?
[04:23] <Remy> do I have to reboot ?
[04:23] <morphix> Cin: only Xsession
[04:23] <sam_> question Ihave installed the drivers for my video card everything went well when I check glxgears my cpu maxes out is this right?
[04:23] <krazykit> Remy: ctrl-alt-f7
[04:24] <Cin> morphix, open Xsession. What is in there?
[04:24] <Remy> krazykit: beautiful, thanks.
[04:24] <Cin> morphix, stuff like that? >> /usr/bin/xfce-mcs-manager
[04:24] <Nathanael> Ubuntu automagically recognizes the special keys on the mac keyboard, for volume, etc. - that's impressive
[04:24] <iiiears> Cin: Thats what i was thinking. - I am just too green at this to know if the syntax is wrong or i need an app to bridge the gap. cd to/directory/for/ symlink THEN  ln -s -t="samba/target/dir" - is that close?
[04:24] <morphix> actually.. xSession is actually a conf file lol.
[04:24] <Cin> morphix, or are you referring to a directory?
[04:24] <phrowzen> hey
[04:24] <morphix> i can get to that xfce-mcs-manager
[04:24] <sam1001> Krazykit, does it have to be specially configured to run as a server?
[04:25] <Cin> morphix, /usr/bin/xftaskbar4 &
[04:25] <Remy> hey guys, what's the root pw for the dapper live CD ?
[04:25] <Cin> morphix, remove that line
[04:25] <Remy> or the sudo pw ?
[04:25] <sam1001> I mean a server that other computer can boot from
[04:25] <Cin> iiiears, I'm not sure to be honest, never tried it.
[04:25] <phrowzen> i have only a 100MB boot partition, and i dont want to install the new kernel image because its 92% full, is it as simple as just rm -rf'ing them and grub-install will no longer install them to the boot loader? or is there some other location?
[04:25] <krazykit> sam1001: oh, that'd take some work.  dunno how you'd do that
[04:25] <wastrel> phrowzen:  it would be better to apt-get remove the old kernels
[04:25] <morphix> Cin: actually i cant find that file.. :/
[04:26] <phrowzen> wastrel, ahh teriffic, much easier, thanks
[04:26] <Cin> morphix, I meant in the configuration file.
[04:26] <krazykit> Remy: i thought it ran as "root" anyway, on the liveCD.  you shouldn't need root perms to chroot or anything
[04:26] <Cin> morphix, is it not in Xsession?
[04:26] <Remy> krazykit: when I try to run grub-install it says I don't have permissions...
[04:26] <planetcall> Remy, sudoing is good enough
[04:26] <iiiears> A hand full of knowledgeable people answer the lions share of questions asked. - help!  - lol
[04:26] <krazykit> Remy: are you chrooted into your installation?
[04:27] <Cin> morphix, mine looks like this: http://rtfs.ath.cx/.xsession.txt
[04:27] <Remy> krazykit: not sure, what do you mean by that ?
[04:27] <FWO> To activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal prompt:                        where is this?
[04:27] <Cin> FWO, a terminal prompt
[04:27] <Cin> ?
[04:27] <FWO> cin yes
[04:27] <krazykit> Remy: it means, did you do chroot /your/drive /bin/bash first?
[04:27] <Remy> nope
[04:27] <Cin> FWO, programs > Accessories > Terminal
[04:28] <morphix> Cin: but that's because your using ~/.xsession and NOT gdm
[04:28] <Cin> Or something similar.
[04:28] <Remy> krazykit: how do I do that ?
[04:28] <krazykit> Remy: it's been a long time since i've had to do this ;-)
[04:28] <Cin> morphix, I know. I'm wondering what your Xsession file looks like.
[04:28] <Remy> :-D  at least you've done it before :P
[04:28] <krazykit> Remy: oooh, the gentoo install guide covers installing grub manually really well.  the steps are identical.  lemme link you
[04:29] <Mark1412>  internetz!
[04:29] <Mark1412> ! internetz
[04:29] <Remy> sweet
[04:29] <Remy> :)
[04:29] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mark1412
[04:29] <Mark1412> wow
[04:29] <sam1001> krazykit, can the c/c++ compiler be updated
[04:29] <Mark1412> what program do you guys use to upload music to your ipod?!?!?!
[04:29] <Cin> Mark1412, amaroK.
[04:29] <Mark1412> cin: where can i get that?
[04:30] <sam1001> krazykit, seems there are always dependencie issues when I try to install a package/software
[04:30] <Cin> Mark1412, Synaptic.
[04:30] <Cin> Mark1412, are you on Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:30] <Mark1412> ubuntu
[04:30] <Remy> !us
[04:30] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[04:30] <Remy> !tell sam1001 about us
[04:31] <FWO> cin thanks
[04:31] <krazykit> sam1001: that's not a compiler issue.  you need to install the -dev headers for the dependencies
[04:31] <Mark1412> cin: cant find it in synaptic
[04:31] <plunkie> anyone know how to make the default ATI drivers work on 2 monitors with landscape mode? TIA :)
[04:31] <krazykit> Remy: gimme a few more minutes.
[04:31] <Remy> np krazykit
[04:32] <johnjay_> can somebody give me a hand configuring wireless on ubuntu 6.06?  it sees my card alright, and it activates, but signal strength is 0
[04:32] <sam1001> back
[04:32] <Nathanael> You need to input the SSID
[04:32] <Nathanael> in network config
[04:33] <Cin> Mark1412, you need to add extra repositories.
[04:33] <Nathanael> System>Administration>Networking
[04:33] <Cin> Ohhh, he's gawn.
[04:33] <plunkie> I look in the manual and i see nothing on how to make dual monitor work :(
[04:33] <johnjay_> i did that, as well as the wep key
[04:33] <johnjay_> and the connection settings
[04:33] <krazykit> Remy: ah, have you tried the guide on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:33] <sam1001> plunkie, you mean on ubuntu?
[04:33] <johnjay_> then when i activate it, it takes a year and a day but gets there eventually
[04:33] <plunkie> yes Ubuntu
[04:34] <Nathanael> hmm
[04:34] <Nathanael> Yet no IP?
[04:34] <Remy> krazykit: that's the one I'm reading, but I don't know how to get the numbers that correspond to my setup...  eg, root(hd0,6) - how do I know what numbers to use for me ?
[04:34] <Remy> krazykit: I'm reading the "Using LiveCD and overwriting windows bootloader"
[04:34] <sam1001> that's definitely not a good idea, it took me a while just to make the screen refresh rate above 85
[04:34] <johnjay_> Nathanael, what do you mean by 'no IP?'
[04:35] <krazykit> Remy: ooooooh.  ok. i see what your problem is.  how're the partitions set up?  which is the first partition, and which is the linux partition?
[04:35] <krazykit> Remy: err, windows and linux
[04:35] <Remy> k
[04:35] <Remy> as follows:
[04:35] <sam1001> I had to edit a file that describes refresh rate and such,
[04:35] <Nathanael> I mean you activate, and yet you get no IP from the router?
[04:35] <Nathanael> Absolutely no connection?
[04:36] <johnjay_> no connection at all, no
[04:36] <Remy> !paste
[04:36] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[04:36] <wastrel> anyone got a creative zen mp3 player - how do you like it?  does it work ok w/ lunix?
[04:36] <sam1001> now I can make it 84hz at 1024*768
[04:36] <Nathanael> Well, I would try without WEP first
[04:37] <johnjay_> k
[04:37] <johnjay_> giving it a go
[04:37] <Nathanael> If it works, it's a WEP issue, if not, well..
[04:37] <sam1001> wastrel, I think there might be problems writing mp3 files to the usb disk
[04:37] <Remy> krazykit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15842  <- screenshot of the partitions
[04:37] <wastrel> doh
[04:37] <nbound> ok people i have a weird problem
[04:37] <Cin> nbound, oh noes! D:
[04:38] <sam1001> there won't be any problems reading files from the disk though
[04:38] <krazykit> Remy: haha, that's a TON of swap.
[04:38] <nbound> all my keyboard shortcuts in the menus, have "keyboard label|<whatever the keyboard shortcut is>"
[04:38] <sam1001> what do you need al that swap for
[04:38] <Remy> krazykit: It set it up automatically, I didn't touch it :D
[04:38] <plunkie> I have 8 gigs of ram :/
[04:39] <sam1001> plunkie doesn't need any swap space
[04:39] <Remy> krazykit: I don't even know what the extended and swap partitions do / are for :D
[04:39] <sam1001> the swap is like virtual memory space in windows
[04:39] <planetcall> plunkie, you must be running windows !
[04:39] <plunkie> eally? i thought i was supposed to make a swap half the size of my memory?
[04:39] <krazykit> Remy: oh, i see.  what a strange partition setup.  anyway.
[04:39] <Mark1412> can anyone help me with amaroK?
[04:39] <DShepherd> Mark1412: ask in #kubuntu
[04:39] <sam1001> planetcall, haha
[04:39] <nbound> i first noticed it after i programmed my extra keys keyboard shortcuts. so im wondering if theres a way to set them all back to default :S
[04:39] <plunkie> cool, I will re-format it and fill it with pr0n
[04:39] <DShepherd> Mark1412: what's your prob by the way?
[04:40] <krazykit> Remy: root (hd0,1)       setup (hd0)
[04:40] <hola> HIya all
[04:40] <Dial_tone> I find ubuntu more reliable for burning dvds than xp was
[04:40] <DShepherd> hey'
[04:40] <sam1001> krazykit, how do i install a grub
[04:40] <sam1001> and where to
[04:40] <krazykit> sam1001: read the guide.
[04:40] <plunkie> is it true that we can install ATI drivers (FGLRX) from apt-get or synaptic?
[04:40] <nbound> anyone?
[04:40] <Remy> you sure krazykit ?  Ok, thanks a ton :D
[04:40] <speedy> how can i play online video streaming with totem and firefox?
[04:41] <krazykit> Remy: yep, i'm sure.
[04:41] <nbound> plunkie, yes
[04:41] <hola> I just got basically all my music going yesterday by installing those restricted packages, but my WMA's wont play
[04:41] <hola> Can someone help me please
[04:41] <plunkie> must I be at run level 1?
[04:41] <Remy> ok, thanks mate.
[04:41] <plunkie> or can I use synaptic
[04:41] <Remy> here goes
[04:41] <Draconicus> First of all, I recently fixed my sound with the help of crimsun_. Now the volume is much lower than it used to be before I lost sound due to a weird side effect of updating Dapper from Flight 6 to the official release.
[04:41] <nbound> plunkie, u can use synaptic... i think u gotta edit ur xorg.conf to load the fglrx module as well
[04:41] <Draconicus> Secondly, X locks up and leaves my system unusable when I try to launch rosegarden.
[04:42] <krazykit> Draconicus: make sure it's not something silly like PCM being low
[04:42] <planetcall> hola you need w32codecs
[04:42] <plunkie> ok thank you :)
[04:42] <Remy> krazykit: when I run "root(hd0,1)"  I get :  Error27: unrecognized command
[04:42] <DShepherd> speedy: install  the totem plugin for firefox
[04:42] <nbound> plunkie, dont take any of that as gospel, i havent installed an ATI card for quite a while
[04:42] <krazykit> Remy: there's a space in there
[04:42] <Nathanael> forgot the space
[04:42] <hola> hmmmm, i'm sure I installed them yesterday
[04:42] <Draconicus> krazykit: I mean the actual volume output, not the settings. When PCM and Master are maxed, it's lower than it used to be.
[04:42] <nbound> all my keyboard shortcuts in the menus, have "keyboard label|<whatever the keyboard shortcut is>"
[04:42] <hola> i'll double check
[04:42] <planetcall> hola visit here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[04:42] <hola> okay thanks
[04:43] <Draconicus> krazykit: Even the system beep is quieter... It's crazy!
[04:43] <Remy> krazykit: you are correct... but now I get Error:21 - Selected disk does not exist
[04:43] <Remy> I ran: "root (hd0,1)
[04:43] <Remy> "
[04:43] <paul_> I got a question however silly it may seem. I have a soundblaster live 24 bit card that when it was running under windows I could get all four speakers playing I have connected to the card but in ubuntu no deal. It only plays two.
[04:43] <speedy> DShepherd: i have it installed
[04:43] <plunkie> after I put my computer under water teh fan stopped working on the power supply :/
[04:43] <DShepherd> speedy: mmm ok
[04:44] <Aven> hey
[04:44] <Aven> on the shell, how do I kill a logged in user?
[04:44] <sam1001> the wierd thing is that after I installed windows, the grub is gone
[04:44] <DShepherd> speedy: it doesnt work?
[04:44] <speedy> DShepherd i can see the window with play button, but i'm getting a msg saying cannot play over a network
[04:44] <Remy> !tell sam1001 about grub
[04:44] <sam1001> the grub is overrided with windows grub
[04:44] <planetcall> sam1001, window doesnt like grub
[04:44] <plunkie> sam1001: yea windows will destroy grub
[04:44] <krazykit> Remy: oh dear.
[04:44] <Remy> sam1001: that's exactly what I'm trying to fix :P
[04:44] <DShepherd> speedy: you using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[04:44] <Healot> but you can resurrect GRUB
[04:44] <plunkie> install windows first then ubuntu and all your other OSes
[04:45] <speedy> DShepherd totem-gstreamer
[04:45] <DShepherd> speedy: i use the mplayer plugin.. seems to work best for me
[04:45] <Draconicus> krazykit: Oh. Look at that. I guess a reboot fixed it. My sound was turned down when I booted up. Before this, it was lower than usual.
[04:45] <Aven> on the shell, how do I kill a logged in user?
[04:45] <Draconicus> krazykit: That doesn't fix the problem with rosegarden, though.
[04:45] <krazykit> Draconicus: yeah, dunno about rosegarden :-/
[04:45] <plunkie> killusr and teh log number I think
[04:45] <speedy> DShepherd yeah mplayer works fine with me
[04:45] <ardy> help I cannot use IP address in squid http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15844
[04:45] <Aven> on the shell, how do I kill a logged in user?
[04:45] <sam1001> fortunately all my files are still safe
[04:45] <Graig> does the ml-donkey package still mess up ubuntu?
[04:45] <plunkie> Aven killusr and teh log number I think
[04:45] <Remy> krazykit: "oh dear." ?  That doesn't sound good :-S
[04:45] <DShepherd> speedy: I havent had good luck with the totem-gstreamer plugin for firefox though
[04:46] <paul_> Also does anyone know where I can get an APA format template for openoffice. I have searched the net over but found nothing that is up to date.
[04:46] <sam1001> saftely stored in other linux partition
[04:46] <Aven> plunkie: how do I find the number? can't find it on ps x
[04:46] <planetcall> plunkie: is it not possible to run  grub-setup  from live cd if the mbr is overwritten by window ?
[04:46] <Draconicus> krazykit: Hmm.. ALSA isn't saving my config. I know there's an easy fix for this.
[04:46] <sam_> I installed my drivers for ATI video card  fglrx when I check my FPS my cpu maxes out does this mean that its not going through the video card
[04:46] <ericz> Aven, if they're logged in via ssh, run "kill <PID>" of the ssh session they're connected with..
[04:46] <Aven> and killuser isn't a command :\
[04:46] <plunkie> planetcall, yes I think it is possible
[04:46] <Aven> ericz: yeah, how do I get the pid number?
[04:46] <krazykit> Remy: i've had this problem.  and it's a BITCH to figure out.
[04:47] <raldi> Something went very wrong with my initrd. There's a bug in the database for it, but it's not fixed yet. I tried booting off a live CD, chrooting to my hard drive, and using dpkg to reinstall linux-image*.deb, but it didn't work.
[04:47] <ericz> aven: ps -aux | grep ssh
[04:47] <Draconicus> sam_: How fast is your CPU? What is it?
[04:47] <Remy> krazykit: do you know what's actually wrong ?
[04:47] <ardy> help I cannot use IP address in squid http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15844
[04:47] <raldi> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[04:47] <Aven> ah ty
[04:47] <sam_> AMD sempron 3000+
[04:47] <krazykit> Remy: at some point i did.
[04:47] <sam_> 2.1
[04:47] <planetcall> :P typo !
[04:47] <sam_> GHz
[04:48] <Remy> krazykit: any suggestions for what to try next ?
[04:48] <jshriver> Greetings again
[04:48] <jshriver> Is there a command that lets you search a text file for a given string (like grep) but can display x number of lines before or after that line?
[04:48] <sam_> Ihave checked glxinfo say DRI enabled
[04:48] <runes> Hi everyone
[04:48] <raldi> jshriver: grep -C
[04:48] <alexcamilo> Does anyone know if there is an app in ubuntu to view ssids in range and join them. something like a menu bar.
[04:49] <raldi> jshriver: or grep -A or grep -B
[04:49] <Healot> sam_ : grep acceleration
[04:49] <Draconicus> sam_: Hmm... I dunno. You just have an easily stressed CPU. A 3000+? That's very odd...
[04:49] <sam1001> can grep search for files
[04:50] <Draconicus> I'll just shut up, now. >_>
[04:50] <ericz> sam1001: "locate" is for searching files
[04:50] <sam1001> I have Celeron D 2.93G and linux runs fine
[04:50] <wastrel> locate is for searching for files
[04:50] <raldi> sam1001: what do you mean exactly? like "find | grep foo"?
[04:50] <lib8264q> hi channel :)
[04:50] <KidR> I cannot login to ubuntu, and apparantly it is because my hdd is full.  I am using a live cd, and I tried deleting files to make space so I could login, now the files are gone and I still have no space. :(
[04:50] <sam1001> ericz, cool, now I can actually search files
[04:50] <lib8264q> just have one ? about ubuntu setup
[04:50] <krazykit> Remy: um... have you considered using the unofficial super grub disc?  because i cannot for the life of me remember what to do :-/
[04:51] <iiiears> sam1001: sudo updatedb creaste a reference file   then locate
[04:51] <johnjay_> Nathanael, it's still b0rken.  here's a screenshot of my config window: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i15846
[04:51] <sam1001> raldi, i meant how i can search for a file using its name
[04:51] <sam_> the AGPart is going through the software not the hardware
[04:51] <Nathanael> ok
[04:51] <sam1001> i know ls can, but only in its current working directory
[04:51] <Remy> krazykit: tried it... it does pretty much the same thing... it doesn't boot into the nice gui that they show in the screenshots, but just into a standard grub shell which then just gives me errors no matter what I try
[04:51] <raldi> sam1001: what's its name?
[04:52] <Nathanael> Try something besides Hex - what are the other options?
[04:52] <raldi> sam1001: to search for all files containing "foo" under the current dir run "find | grep foo" or "find -name foo"
[04:52] <runes> KidR is it telling you how much space oyu ahve left?
[04:52] <krazykit> Remy: oh.  um... well... grub has tab completion.  try doing root(tabtabtab to see if it'll pick something up
[04:52] <johnjay_> ASCII
[04:52] <sam1001> what name
[04:52] <johnjay_> which i also tried, to no avail
[04:52] <Draconicus> ALSA isn't saving my config. What's that easy fix, again?
[04:52] <iiiears> gene099 - Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?  Do i need inetd? fuser?  nfs?
[04:52] <Remy> hmk.
[04:52] <KidR> runes, it says 0bytes
[04:52] <Nathanael> I remember finicking with mine alot to get it working - tried different options
[04:53] <Remy> krazykit: will try it.
[04:53] <Remy> bbl
[04:53] <runes> KidR can you get to a console?
[04:53] <Remy> if not, I guess it's re-install time again :P
[04:53] <johnjay_> kay.
[04:53] <Nathanael> I think WPA with an ASCII key
[04:53] <runes> KidR and are you dual booting or is it a full linux install?
[04:53] <krazykit> Draconicus: alsactl will do it.  check out the --help on it
[04:53] <Draconicus> iiiears: You can make symlinks to samba directories without a problem. Just be sure that you do them in reference to the mount point.
[04:53] <KidR> runes with a live cd or recovery mode, yes
[04:53] <iiiears> geneo99  Hobbsee - Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?  Do i need inetd? fuser?  nfs?
[04:53] <Nathanael> Dude - Frostwire rocks!
[04:53] <KidR> runes full linux
[04:54] <Nathanael> I've never tried it before
[04:54] <runes> KidR how many physical drives do you have in the machine
[04:54] <Nathanael> Disturbingly like Limewire - obviously intentional (I know)
[04:54] <raldi> Is there a surefire, foolproof way to install a kernel, its initrd, etc? I have a broken system. I booted via a live CD, chrooted, and tried rerunning: dpkg -i linux-image*.deb .. the command appeared to work, but my initrd is still the same old corrupt one.
[04:54] <krazykit> Nathanael: well, considering it's based on the same code...
[04:54] <KidR> runes 2, one for linux and one in fatx for file storage
[04:54] <runes> fatx
[04:54] <sam1001> limewire is liek the only software I could get installed successfully
[04:54] <runes> ?
[04:54] <Nathanael> It's just nicer than my past experiences with eMule...
[04:55] <KidR> runes linux one is full
[04:55] <runes> ie fat 32 16 ntfs?
[04:55] <FWO> thanks for everyones help i'll most likely be back later...haha
[04:55] <KidR> runes sry fat32 I believe
[04:55] <lib8264q> during initial setup root is disabled if i do a server install can i have a seperate password so that when  i want to log into terminal session within ubuntu is is a seperate password than the one  needed to log onto ubuntu
[04:55] <runes> KidR the drive that is fat 32..how much free space do you ahve available
[04:56] <runes> ?
[04:56] <iiiears> runes - ntfs is ntfs.
[04:56] <KidR> runes about 650mb
[04:56] <runes> iiiears, yes it is agreed
[04:56] <sam1001> in linux you can't write files to file systems other than ext,right
[04:56] <Sir_Brizz> lib8264q, sudo passwd root
[04:56] <runes> but I wanted to knwo if it was set in ntfs fat or fat 32 the process for mounting is sidderent
[04:56] <sam1001> incudes flash drives
[04:56] <runes> different
[04:56] <krazykit> sam1001: no.
[04:56] <sam1001> krazykit, is it a new feature
[04:57] <iiiears> FAT32 is the older Win 98/win2K file system. - perfect for sharing between windows and linux.
[04:57] <runes> KidR the drie that is full, approx how much dta is non essential to the operation of linux (your documetns music etc)
[04:57] <krazykit> sam1001: you can write to ext2/3, reiser3/4, xfs, jfs, fatX, hfs/+  all sorts of stuff
[04:57] <krazykit> sam1001: haha, no, it's been around for awhile.  this is nothing remotely new.
[04:57] <sam1001> I tried to write files to my flash drive but it didn't work
[04:57] <sam1001> and to ntfs,of course
[04:57] <Dial_tone> is reading/writing to fat32 pretty much as fast as native filesystems?
[04:58] <KidR> runes not much I think, I'm kinda new to linux, but the stuff I put there myself I backed up to fat32 drive
[04:58] <sam1001> my other partition that's serving windows xp
[04:58] <runes> KidR sorry for the typos been working on the car hands a mess...
[04:58] <krazykit> Dial_tone: as far as i can tell, yeah
[04:58] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Hello, how can I install kismet? I tried using synaptic but I seem to get these errors when trying to run it and it will not load. It says somethng about not being configured properly. How doI configure it if it doest even load?
[04:58] <KidR> runes in case i need to reinstall
[04:58] <Dial_tone> great
[04:58] <KidR> runes sokay
[04:58] <runes> KidR the idea was that you get yourself to console mode on the linux drive..you then "mount" the fat32 drive
[04:58] <runes> and copy over the non essential files rather than deleting them
[04:58] <krazykit> sam1001: then you're doing something wrong.  so long as the flash drive is not formatted as ntfs, it should write no problem
[04:59] <iiiears> sam1001 - You can add "ntfsprogs" for write to ntfs. (not something to trust your data to without good backups)
[04:59] <runes> KidR, this way you save your files and free space on the linux drive
[05:00] <runes> KidR,  do you know in which directory you stored your data on the linux drive?
[05:01] <Remy> krazykit - Success!
[05:01] <krazykit> Remy: huzzah!
[05:01] <Remy> krazykit - I used the supergrub disc, then ran the root and setup commands... and it worked !!!
[05:01] <Remy> wooootzoor :D
[05:01] <KidR> runes I have copied "nonessential"files to the fat32 drive using the live cd ( i mounted both drives)
[05:01] <krazykit> Remy: ack, just have a beer for me ;-)
[05:02] <Remy> let me know next time you're in sydney...
[05:02] <KidR> runes how would this be different with console mode?
[05:02] <runes> KidR, what size is your primary boot drive?  to have filled it with a basic install?
[05:02] <KidR> runes about 3.2gb
[05:02] <KidR> runes :p
[05:02] <krazykit> Remy: likely never, but enjoy one for me :-P
[05:02] <sam1001> where is the grub installed? is it on the ext partition?
[05:02] <Remy> will do :D
[05:02] <runes> KidR,  at least in console you can forward the data over to the other drive to free more space rather than deleting then use startx to get back into the desktop
[05:03] <runes> KidR, ahh ok then that would explain it
[05:03] <alexcamilo> my computer locked up when performing a software update. It got stuck on "Setting up gnome-panel-data (2.14.2-0ubuntu1) ..." is this normal and can i shut off my computer without anything going horribly wrong
[05:03] <runes> KidR, how many desktops did you install (kde and gnome?)
[05:03] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Is there anybody available to help?
[05:03] <sam1001> alexcamilo, are you sure it locked up
[05:03] <Remy> now for my next question...  I just ran the dapper live CD, and it had stuff in the Administration menu (eg, the gnome partition manager) that my system doesn't have!!  That's prob because mine was upgraded from hoary rather than installed from scratch.
[05:03] <sam1001> or is it downloading the files
[05:03] <Remy> so, anyone know how to get all the stuff now ?
[05:03] <alexcamilo> sam1001: mouse not responding
[05:04] <KidR> runes I'm newb, so whatever came with dapper
[05:04] <runes> KidR,  rather than reinstalling at the console you can use aptitude
[05:04] <alexcamilo> sam 1001: and its not making any noise.
[05:04] <KidR> runes actually, i upgraded from breezy, if that matters
[05:04] <sam1001> alex, are the update files downloaded to the drive yet
[05:04] <alexcamilo> yes
[05:04] <Cntryboy> amule is pretty cool
[05:04] <alexcamilo> sam 1001: it downloaded them then started installing them
[05:05] <krazykit> Remy: i think that one's gparted or something.  i don't use gnome though... you can always search synaptic
[05:05] <runes> htext based installer unistaller and slowly (carefully) remove app by app of the non essentials untill you can get back into the desktop
[05:05] <sam1001> then I think it's ok to restart and install the update again
[05:05] <KidR> runes I know not of this "aptitude"
[05:05] <Cntryboy> does it use the same as emule, meaning the same peer to peer? or are they all different networks ect
[05:05] <KidR> runes oh
[05:05] <Remy> krazykit  hm, i'm more wondering if there's a way of checking that my system has all the dapper basic stuff in it...
[05:05] <Ohzie> When do you guys think edgy will be available for usable testing?
[05:05] <sam1001> alex, but I'm not sure
[05:05] <krazykit> Remy: oh, just make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed.  it should pull in anything it needs.
[05:05] <runes> KidR,  you know in the desktop you ahve the synaptics package manager (sort of like windows updates only better?)
[05:05] <alexcamilo> sam1001: whats the worst that can happen. reinstall? lol
[05:06] <KidR> runes yes
[05:06] <runes> well there's also the same kidn of thing for colsole mode
[05:06] <sam1001> alex, I think that's the only choice
[05:06] <Remy> so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[05:06] <runes> not point and clicky
[05:06] <puff> Hm.
[05:06] <krazykit> Remy: yup
[05:06] <runes> but useable
[05:06] <sam1001> what's the thing you'r installing
[05:06] <KidR> runes :p i see
[05:06] <krazykit> runes: you mean aptitude?
[05:06] <runes> so you can select and deselect what you want to add/remove
[05:06] <runes> krazykit, yes
[05:06] <Graig> is there a gnutella 2 client for linux?
[05:06] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Hello, how can I install kismet? I tried using synaptic but I seem to get these errors when trying to run it and it will not load. It says somethng about not being configured properly. How doI configure it if it doest even load?
[05:06] <krazykit> aptitude kicks ass :-D
[05:06] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i was doing an update after a fresh install of 6.06
[05:06] <Cntryboy> anyone know if amule has a option to like pick between what your searches consist of. Like if I wanna find a picture tell amule search for picture files ect.
[05:07] <KidR> runes and hope that frees some space, unlike deleting misc files
[05:07] <puff> Well, 24 hours of memory testing and the box seems okay.
[05:07] <runes> KidR,  but be careful as smart as it is it's only going to do what you tell it to so pls don't go uninstall hally
[05:07] <steev> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : you configure it in the text file
[05:07] <steev> its not a gui app
[05:07] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > where can I acess the text file
[05:07] <runes> Yes KidR  the idea is to preserve your machine not butcher it :-)
[05:07] <puff> now, I'm booting an ubuntu desktop install CD, and the first option is "start or install ubuntu".
[05:07] <KidR> runes, don't worry, I'm careful
[05:07] <steev> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : dpkg -L kismet
[05:07] <steev> look for conf files
[05:07] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:07] <puff> But how do I get it to *install* ubuntu?  When I select "Start or install" it just seems to go into boot-from-CD mode.
[05:07] <sam1001> alex, don't know what's gonna happen
[05:08] <steev> anyone who is around from earlier - i am still working on the nagios install, and im getting package conflicts
[05:08] <Remy> puff - on the desktop there is an "install" shortcut
[05:08] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Thank you Steev
[05:08] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its booting. so far so good. x just started.
[05:08] <Remy> puff - assuming you're talking about dapper
[05:08] <KidR> runes ty, I giess i'll research how to use aptitude, then reboot to recovery mode
[05:08] <sam1001> nice,
[05:08] <steev> although, i can't figure out how to get webboard to post to the ubuntu pastebin
[05:08] <puff> Ah, thanks.
[05:08] <krazykit> KidR: it's totally easy.  - uninstalls, + installs
[05:08] <Draconicus> I need to enable capture from the PCM output. How do I do this?
[05:08] <krazykit> KidR: and / searches
[05:08] <runes> KidR, if it make soyu feel any better I started using linux about two weks ago..coming from nt server environment I pretty much tortured the admins in this channel...but now have a very stable system
[05:08] <puff> Remy: And yeah, it's dapper.
[05:08] <Remy> puff - then the desktop shortcut should do it for you ;-)
[05:09] <steev> Selecting previously deselected package nagios-plugins-extra.
[05:09] <sam1001> you know how it froze alex
[05:09] <steev> Unpacking nagios-plugins-extra (from .../nagios-plugins-extra_1.3.1.0-12ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...
[05:09] <steev> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nagios-plugins-extra_1.3.1.0-12ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_game', which is also in package nagios-plugins-standard
[05:09] <steev> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/nagios-plugins-extra_1.3.1.0-12ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:09] <KidR> runes, that's awesome
[05:09] <steev> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:09] <krazykit> steev: dude, pastebin that stuff next time
[05:09] <alexcamilo> sam1001: when i logged in it stays on the brown screen. the mouse works. but thats it
[05:09] <runes> KidR,  go for it and worst case that you have to reinstall you'll learn it inside out..always remember that once you get a good workign desktop BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP
[05:09] <sam1001> alex, can you go to the console window
[05:10] <sam1001> alex, try to get to the console window and reinstall the update
[05:10] <alexcamilo> sam1001: ok
[05:10] <KidR> runes that is a good Idea, but I don't have anywhere to bkp to...
[05:10] <runes> KidR,  a side note: the server and desktop are using 150 megs of ram in realtime....and about 5 perent cpu use  in windows server 2003 I was using 420 megs of ram +-
[05:11] <runes> and the cpu load was atrocious so it's worth the headaches of learning commands!!!
[05:11] <KidR> runes Wow!
[05:11] <steev> http://pastebin.com/714258
[05:11] <Remy> krazykit - if you don't use gnome, what do you use ?
[05:11] <KidR> runes yes, I like linux :)
[05:11] <runes> oh also consider that msoft wanted 800 for the os and 1500 for sql database licenses..so once my site is up tie to donate to Ubuntu
[05:12] <krazykit> Remy: well... i'm using a lot of xfce apps, but i'm using e17 for the actual WM/DE
[05:12] <sam1001> alex, did you see the login window
[05:12] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its restarting. and yes i did see the login window.
[05:12] <iiiears> If you don't like linux - rewrite the code until you do. - try that with the redmond washington OS. - lol
[05:12] <runes> sorry admins for the off topic...
[05:12] <KidR> runes :)
[05:12] <steev> anyone know how to get around that package collision?
[05:12] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean by brown screen? after loggin in?
[05:13] <KidR> runes well, I might be back later then, hope not though :p
[05:13] <alexcamilo> sam1001: yes. i logged in with the username and password. brown screen with white mouse came up. like right before the ubuntu music plays and you see the gnome loading thing. but non of that hapened
[05:13] <puff> Okay, it's just now bringing up the desktop... I know it's an old machine (p400, 256MB ram) but this seems excessively slow...
[05:13] <puff> Could there be something wrong?
[05:13] <runes> KidR,  if you are back hopefully you've got it all figured out take some time to do a good read before venturing in the console
[05:13] <teckfatt> how many personal computer do u guys has??
[05:14] <alexcamilo> sam1001: trying failsafe terminal
[05:14] <Healot> like all of us?
[05:14] <runes> teckfatt, 1 amd server  1 alpha server 2 desktops
[05:14] <Healot> teckfatt: a duel G4, AMD Athlon...
[05:14] <iiiears> puff - There is XFCE desktop Xubuntu.
[05:14] <Healot> that's two
[05:14] <jighead> steev, make a copy of /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_game, then you can go to /var/cache/apt/archives and then dpkg --force-overwrite -i nagios-plugins-extra_1.3.1.0-12ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:14] <krazykit> teckfatt: 2 that work, 1 that has no OS nor a power cord.
[05:14] <sam1001> alex, yea I guess some software is not updated completely and failed to load during system start
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> puff,  change to a lighter desktop like xfce.. or just a minimal window manager like icewm
[05:15] <steev> jighead: thanks, im used to Gentoo, so ubuntu is changing my thinking
[05:15] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i have a failsafe terminal. is there an apt-get option for "fix anything that may have broken"
[05:15] <krazykit> alexcamilo: only for broken deps.  apt-get check will do that
[05:15] <puff> i'll be gutting the gui eventually to turn it into a headless server box.
[05:16] <puff> But I'm just slightly worried that there's something missing...
[05:16] <patbam> hi, is there any way that i can make dapper automatically hook up to a wireless location?
[05:16] <Cntryboy> anyone use amule?
[05:16] <sam1001> alex, krazykit's right
[05:16] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?  or is nfs? fuser needed?
[05:16] <teckfatt> i only have one.....but after i start use GNU/Linux....i need two.... need one more for testing purpose
[05:16] <alexcamilo> sam1001: says dpkg was interupted and tells me to run a command. i'm gonna do it
[05:16] <Cntryboy> does anyone here use amule?
[05:16] <Cntryboy> I need to ask a question about finding the default amule directory through gui, I can only find it through terminal
[05:17] <morphix> i have xubuntu installed.. when i try i use the right click menu to exit xfce.. i get the "xfce4-session is not running error" even tho i can clearly see that it IS running, what could be the problem? screenshot >> http://members.westnet.com.au/morphix56/xfcesessionerror.JPG
[05:17] <sam1001> alex, does it take a long time to download the update
[05:17] <krazykit> teckfatt: feh, you find p2 and p3 boxes for dirt cheap.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  you coulkd make a lnik to the dir that its getting mounted to.
[05:17] <alexcamilo> sam1001: not really. it went quickly.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  and proberly dirs under that one as well.
[05:17] <runes> Cntryboy, cause it's a hidden directory
[05:17] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Can you help with the syntax?
[05:18] <sam1001> alex, it shouldn't have frozen in the middle of compilation
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  ln -s /whatever/place /whevber/place
[05:18] <runes> Cntryboy, in your home directory program settings are in .<directory>
[05:18] <Cntryboy> how can I make it show up
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  unless i totally missunderstand the problem you are having
[05:18] <sam1001> alex, I had problems updating once, but that was because c compiler was too old
[05:18] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i just clicked install updates after getting the wireles card working.
[05:18] <Cntryboy> I found it through terminal, but I want to make it unhidden to the gui
[05:19] <runes> Cntryboy, in your file browser, click View>Show Hidden FIles
[05:19] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Thanks -  <localDir>ln -s  -t="/Path/To/RemoteDir/"  /
[05:19] <runes> Cntryboy, pls be careful deleting settings could cause adverse effects on your applications **you ahve been warned***
[05:19] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Thanks -  <localDir>ln -s  -t="/Path/To/RemoteDir/"  ?
[05:19] <zodo> Hi folks.  I'm in the midst of troubleshooting slow transfer speeds over my internal network...and I've traced it back (with ethereal) to copious numbers of packets with incorrect checksums coming from my main machine.  It uses a Marvell Lan interface on an ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe.  Has anyone encountered this before/any tips?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  where is this -t comming from?
[05:19] <sam1001> alex, what kind of computer are you using
[05:20] <patbam> hi, is there any way that i can make dapper automatically hook up to a wireless location?
[05:20] <Cntryboy> k let me try
[05:20] <Cntryboy> you mean becareful of not to delete files that are hidden files
[05:20] <zodo> I only see this behavior under Dapper.
[05:20] <alexcamilo> sam1001: compaq presdtario 1700T
[05:20] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Okay - lol - Thank You. (I didn't have the right syntax)
[05:20] <alexcamilo> with a netgear wg511v2 wifi card.
[05:20] <teckfatt> is there any software like 'nortan Ghost' for GNU/Linux?
[05:21] <krazykit> patbam: i'm sure there's a better "ubuntu way" of doing it, but i made a little shell script to connect to my network at boot.
[05:21] <alexcamilo> sam1001: all i did after a fresh install was apt-get update, installed wrapper. installed card. nidswrapper -m. restart then i proceeded to update
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> teckfatt,  mondo/mindi lets you backup to bootable media/servers
[05:21] <Cntryboy> well then is there a safe way to just have amule dir show or a link to the hidden
[05:21] <Cntryboy> or something?
[05:21] <sam__> what kind of environment do I need to try out xgl/compiz? i guess i need a windowmanager that takes advantage of it?
[05:21] <teckfatt> Dr_Willis: thank you
[05:21] <runes> zodo,  are you using the default linux drivers or did you oad the asus ones
[05:21] <runes> ?
[05:21] <patbam> krazykit: would you mind describing what you rscript looks like? my old fedora approach of renewing the dhcp licenses on my router & then doing a sudo /sbin/dhclient on ubunutu just doesn't seem to work
[05:21] <zodo> Default ones.
[05:22] <sam1001> alex, laptop may be too hot
[05:22] <runes> zodo, lemme check what they have...I don't recommend using any drivers outside the default mobo drivers for the chipset functionality and nic...
[05:22] <runes> brb
[05:22] <krazykit> patbam: meh, it's just iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxx, iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxxxx, dhclient wlan0.  i put that in a script, and put that script into /etc/rc.local, as i recall.
[05:22] <Cntryboy> runes well lets say im in amule searching for dvd movies or pictures or what not. How can I tell amule that im searching for lets say  picture file ONLY
[05:23] <patbam> krazykit: ok, thanks
[05:23] <ThePub> anyone care to help me venture a guess why on a fresh install the 2.6.12 kernel will launch into X but the 2.6.15 crashes the computer..
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone help me get my ipod to work with linux?
[05:23] <ThePub> (under dapper)
[05:23] <Nathanael> there's all kinnds of ipod options
[05:23] <sam1001> krazykit, do you know if usb wireless adapters work with linux
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> I have it formatted for a mac, is that a problem?
[05:23] <silvaran> ThePub: Video driver modules in kernel?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> ThePub,  furst guess - the nvidia or ati drivers are not loading right.
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> and if so, how do I fix it?
[05:23] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its working now. i did dpkg --configure -i and then i exited and logged back in
[05:24] <alexcamilo> sam1001 gnome works now
[05:24] <sam1001> alex, nice work
[05:24] <ThePub> I don't use either, just the standard ati xorg driver
[05:24] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my ATI Radeon 9200 card. I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package and updated my xorg.conf file to use the 'fglrx' driver. After restarting X I ran 'glxinfo' to see if direct rendering is working and I saw a lot of messages like this one: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for..." OpenOffice also doesn't work. What is going on?
[05:24] <alexcamilo> sam1001: is there any way to complete the updates that didnt finish installing?
[05:24] <krazykit> sam1001: a few of them do natively, but many work with ndiswrapper.  i tihnk.
[05:24] <sam1001> alex, so your system is updated now
[05:24] <Draconicus> Nautilus has been spontaneously crashing.
[05:24] <Draconicus> When it isn't even active...
[05:24] <sam1001> alex, didn't you just update your system in console mode
[05:24] <silvaran> ThePub: You sure you're not using the prop. ATI driver (flglx or whatever...)
[05:24] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how to get the ipod working wiht linux?
[05:25] <Nathanael> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[05:25] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: you just plug it in, really.  ubuntu'll take care of the rest.
[05:25] <runes> Cntryboy, will get to you in a sec :-)
[05:25] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > How can I find what wifi chipset I have
[05:25] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Its an internal card
[05:25] <Cntryboy> ok
[05:25] <Nathanael> lspci
[05:25] <krazykit> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : lspci
[05:25] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I have it formatted to use a mac machine.
[05:25] <alexcamilo> sam1001: it crashed about 80% of the way through the update so i dont know. all i did after restart was apt-get check which told me to run dpkg --configure -i. if that installed the stuff that the computer didnt get to then yes
[05:25] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Thanks again
[05:25] <runes> zodo what firmware revision are you running?
[05:25] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, meaning I can't write to it ???
[05:25] <sam1001> krazykit, I plugged my usb wireless adapter in, and it was powered on, though there aren't any drivers for it
[05:25] <ThePub> silvaran:  quite positive :)  it's something I've futzed with quite a bit.  besides, by default (fresh install remember) the system doesn't setup either of those.
[05:25] <Eureka> anyone know an upload manager of megaupload
[05:26] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: shouldn't matter.  linux writes to hfs+ ok, in my experience
[05:26] <n30n> i did  a security update and now my firefix broswer is buggy
[05:26] <alexcamilo> sam1001: it wants me to restart now. so i'm rebooting.
[05:26] <ThePub> silvaran:  although I have noticed it does start the nvidia kernel module w/o asking (quite rude imo)
[05:26] <krazykit> sam1001: then use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers.
[05:26] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean crashed? didn't it have any error messages
[05:26] <runes> zodo current stable is  1007
[05:26] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it says it requires it be a fat32 partition.
[05:26] <zodo> I'm running the latest bios.
[05:26] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean crashed?
[05:26] <zodo> And I see no issues in windows.
[05:26] <alexcamilo> sam1001: locked up mouse didnt respond.
[05:27] <runes> zodo,  what # is it reporting
[05:27] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my ATI Radeon 9200 card. I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package and updated my xorg.conf file to use the 'fglrx' driver. After restarting X I ran 'glxinfo' to see if direct rendering is working and I saw a lot of messages like this one: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for..." OpenOffice also doesn't work. What is going on?
[05:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: well, that's really not true.  i've used a mac-formatted ipod on linux before no problem.  not on ubuntu, mind you.
[05:27] <runes> zodo,  because the latest bios would be beta...not a good idea
[05:27] <Cntryboy> rune, never mind I figured it out, but once u get around to me there is something id like to ask you.
[05:27] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, does the ipod do oggs?
[05:27] <silvaran> ThePub: Quite rude indeed (btw my ping latency is high, sorry)....
[05:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: ahahahahhah!  no.
[05:27] <tuxtheslacker> and what program did you use?
[05:27] <zodo> Sorry rune, I'm jumping between help in #kubuntu and here.
[05:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: i dunno.  gtkpod, probably
[05:27] <runes> np Cntryboy I am stil fairly new but if I can't answer it I'll tell you ...
[05:28] <ThePub> silvaran:  I do use a custom xorg setup, but it works fine here.. there really isn't any reason it shouldn't work under the other kernel.
[05:28] <tuxtheslacker> gtkpod REQUIRES it be fat32.... I just checked that.
[05:28] <ThePub> silvaran:  the custom setup just defines the standard radeon multihead setup for two monitors running at 1280x1024
[05:28] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean it crashed
[05:28] <zodo> I'm pretty sure that I left off at 1007.
[05:28] <sam1001> alex, it should have some error messages
[05:29] <Mixx> I can't seem to get quake 4 to run now.  it seems to be something to do with the video driver, which appears to be installed correctly aside from a possible misconfiguration somewhere.  any suggestions?
[05:29] <silvaran> ThePub: Well there's obviously a reason why it wouldn't work, otherwise it would :).  Have you checked dmesg?
[05:29] <alexcamilo> sam1001: it didnt. it just locked up.
[05:29] <siriusnova> hey crimsun u here?
[05:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: i'd think not, though.  the program shouldn't care what filesystem it is, as long as it can write ok.  but gtkpod might do it funny.  iunno
[05:29] <runes> zodo,  I'm checkign the chipset to see if marvell has a linux driver posted brb
[05:29] <sam1001> alex, what about the second time you tried it in console mode
[05:29] <siriusnova> i mean crimsun_
[05:29] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, how would you check if the device is writable?
[05:29] <Cin> Anyway I can add a useful link to ubotu? For problems with 'xine could not initialize any audio drivers"
[05:30] <siriusnova> any word on the thinkpad suspend / hibernate problems?
[05:30] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: when it's mounted, at the command line, do "mount" and it should say rw if it's writeable
[05:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I'm able to read from it, but not write to it.
[05:30] <alexcamilo> sam1001: when i tried it in console mode i first ran apt-get check. it told me dpkg was interupted and i should run dpkg --configure -i
[05:30] <alexcamilo> i did
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Which problems are you having specifically?
[05:30] <ThePub> silvaran:  I just don't see why it would be a module failure O.o standard ati radeon driver from the Xorg set doesn't need to interact with any of that
[05:30] <sam1001> alexcamilo, does it work now?
[05:30] <zodo> runes: I hadn't even thought of the possibility that there would be drivers other than the ones included with Dapper.  I can search for them, don't waste your time.  :)  Thanks.
[05:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it says rw.
[05:30] <siriusnova> tonyarusso https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/50031
[05:30] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its restarting after update told me to restart it
[05:30] <siriusnova> its a bug that was introduced in the newest kernel update
[05:31] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i think so
[05:31] <sam1001> cool
[05:31] <siriusnova> thinkpads cant suspend or hibernate
[05:31] <alexcamilo> thanx a bunch
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Mine just did...
[05:31] <siriusnova> i was wondering what the latest status was as crimsun was working on a patch or something
[05:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: then you should be able to write to it.  rhythmbox and amarok both will do ipod stuff, too
[05:31] <ThePub> silvaran:  oh well, will restart and comb through all of it again.  I've had terrible luck with Ubuntu, installs nice out of the box.. then go to upgrade and it's just a wreck usually.
[05:31] <siriusnova> tonyyarusso - what kind of thinkpad do you have?
[05:31] <Healot> !vnc
[05:31] <ubotu> from memory, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: T43.
[05:31] <sam1001> alex, usually if the update fails because of dependency issues
[05:31] <siriusnova> tonnyarusso - what kernel are u running?
[05:31] <Healot> !info x11vnc
[05:31] <ubotu> x11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-5 (dapper), Packaged size: 318 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[05:32] <alexcamilo> ThePub: feel ure pain. update went x.x on me
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I'm trying ot use amarok.
[05:32] <silvaran> ThePub: I don't know enough about it, only on a high level... honestly, /var/log/X*.log would be the place to start, followed by dmesg.. the reason why I mention the kernel is that you've updated it, and the newer one doesn't work.  Keep in mind that everything has to go through the kernel, regardless whether or not everything uses some kind of proprietary driver.
[05:32] <runes> zodo it's nto a waste of time if I can help (my area is hardware, telco and networking...linux..well linux I'm stil learning)
[05:32] <siriusnova> the problem is in the newest kernel update (25)
[05:32] <siriusnova> and affects a multitude of thinkpads
[05:32] <zodo> runes: Ok, well thanks.
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> it's telling me "Could not write to /media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F01/kpod1.mp3
[05:32] <siriusnova> mine included
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, ^^
[05:32] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: how'd you mount the drive?  just plugging it in?
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, yeah.
[05:33] <NthDegree> tuxtheslacker try with root permissions
[05:33] <silvaran> ThePub: While you may not be using proprietary modules or the fl? driver, there might be some agp-related driver in use that's broken WRT your setup that's causing problems.
[05:33] <runes> zodo, do you have your motherboard manual handy?
[05:33] <zodo> runes:  It mostly seems to happen during heavy duty local network transfers...I haven't tried recording web surfing in ethereal, but I haven't noticed slowdown as much during downloads.
[05:33] <sam1001> tux, have you used slack
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, try amarok or mounting?
[05:33] <zodo> runes: Can't say I do.
[05:33] <NthDegree> amarok with root permissions
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> sam1001, yes. I'm coming from slack.
[05:33] <zodo> runes: It's the ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe.
[05:33] <runes> zodo,  most likey the debiann-ubuntu driver gives enough compatibility for it to function but like windows just enough
[05:34] <sam1001> tux, I downloaded a mini version of slack that can fit in a 256mb flash drive
[05:34] <ThePub> silvaran:  who knows :\  so much trash loaded by default in this distro, it's fairly hard to wade through all the crap to find the gems.
[05:34] <runes> got it I scrolled the lines in the chat
[05:34] <radiohead> sam1001: slax?
[05:34] <sam1001> radiohead,yes
[05:34] <Draconicus> I need to enable capture from the PCM output. How do I do this?
[05:34] <TokenBad> does ubuntu support SATA?
[05:35] <sam1001> but my P3 didn't have boot on USB option
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Is there anything special I need to do to install madwifi on my laptop? It says make file doesnt exist
[05:35] <krazykit> TokenBad: yup
[05:35] <silvaran> ThePub: One man's trash is another's man.. oh what the heck... it's a balance between what YOU know and what everyone else knows.  Keep in mind this is not your sysadmin's distribution.  Not that that helps, but it beats the heck out of compiling everything yourself :)
[05:35] <sam1001> that's like a new option on P4s
[05:35] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, krazykit 'll be right back.
[05:35] <NthDegree> yes TokenBad, i have a SATA drive
[05:35] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : try ./configure or ./autogen
[05:35] <runes> zodo..most often standard harware is picked up and configured extremely well with ubuntu..after trying CentOS, Debian itself, and fedora..Ubuntu worked extremely well right off the cd..however in some cases an external driver is what you need
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > there is not configure file
[05:35] <radiohead> autogen?
[05:35] <Nathanael> Wow - I just plugged my ipod into my Ubuntu box - Amarok picks up everything, and even downloaded the album covers!!
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > the install just said to do make
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > ill try autogen
[05:36] <siriusnova> Nathanael - Welcome to Ubuntu Linux :P
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: I still have -23 here, so I'll guess we'll see.
[05:36] <zodo> runes: Yeah, I've had to hunt down a few here and there.
[05:36] <ThePub> silvaran:  lol, I suppose :)  I still wonder why there's a laptop-mode and hotkey setup loaded by default for laptops.. or it a setup for the custom nvidia driver :)
[05:36] <radiohead> did you unarchive it all the way?
[05:36] <sam1001> anyone knows how to boot from USB on older computers?
[05:36] <silvaran> ThePub: And on the other hand, I find it rather difficult to believe there's nothing in Xorg.log* to help you out.......
[05:36] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, yes I did
[05:36] <runes> zodo..    Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit LAN controller
[05:36] <runes> LAN
[05:36] <radiohead> hmm
[05:36] <sam1001> I wanted to build a silent PC
[05:36] <sam1001> one without a hard drive
[05:36] <zodo> runes: The one time that I tried updating the windows driver, it worked for about 30 seconds on boot, then would blue screen...so I stuck with the default windows one which worked fine.
[05:37] <zodo> runes: Yeah, that's the one.
[05:37] <krazykit> sam1001: get a compact flash card and an ide converter.
[05:37] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, I dont have the command installed
[05:37] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > It just says to do make
[05:37] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : I downlaoded it and got a makefile
[05:37] <runes> :-) I can read..sec...lookign up the manufacturer
[05:37] <radiohead> get the .bz2
[05:37] <radiohead> not gz
[05:37] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Ok
[05:37] <sam1001> thanks, let me find out the converter
[05:37] <siriusnova> tonyyarrusso - try updating to the new patch, you wont be able to suspend or hibernate properly afterwards
[05:37] <siriusnova> i had to revert back to 232
[05:37] <siriusnova> i mean 23
[05:38] <zodo> runes:  Looks like marvell lists a linux driver...but they claim kernel 2.4.* and up, which doesn't make me hopeful about it being recent.
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Yeah, about that, can't give you immediate feedback since getting kernel upgrades takes a few hours here.
[05:38] <backz> hey, where is my /dev/lp0 ? I cant print things on my printer, there's no /dev/lp0! why ?
[05:39] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, I still have the same problem
[05:39] <silvaran> ThePub: The laptop mode is for laptops... I suspect the reason why it's loaded is because the vendor specifications are never sufficient to determine whether or not a laptop is actually in use.  So the wonderful Ubuntu developers have decided, "Well, if the manufacturers are being archaic about interoperability, we need to write our own laptop detection routines"... in a perfect world, the whole l
[05:39] <silvaran> aptop detection would be run during install and discarded on all non-laptop architectures... but in that same perfect world, candy corn would actually taste good... :)
[05:39] <radiohead> with the .bz2? I just downloaded it and got the makefile
[05:39] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > There is a makefile but terminal will not run it
[05:39] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : how are you running it?
[05:39] <runes> zodo..    http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverSearchResults.do
[05:39] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > just tring to do make
[05:39] <sam1001> it's not bad at all, 5 bux for a IDE-flash converter
[05:39] <tuxtheslacker> hey, NthDegree it won't let me open amarok with sudo.
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > and when I double click it it just opens a text editor
[05:40] <zodo> runes: That's where I am right now.
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> it just hangs when I load it with sudo.
[05:40] <ice_1963> backz, are you running kde?
[05:40] <radiohead> don't double click it
[05:40] <runes> ok what page are you on
[05:40] <Snake> Hmm.... edgy isnt delayed because dapper was is it?
[05:40] <Draconicus> I need to record from the audio output. What mixer can I use to set it for recording?
[05:40] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : are you running firefox as root?
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Im trying in terminal as well
[05:40] <NthDegree> try kdesu tuxtheslacker :)
[05:40] <backz> ice_1963: no! gnome, ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > no
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Snake: Nope.  Still october.
[05:40] <runes> zodo, just put in your chipset and search
[05:40] <ice_1963> ok
[05:40] <radiohead> make should work
[05:40] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Ill close it anyway
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> kdesu?
[05:40] <Snake> thanks
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ^^
[05:40] <zodo> runes: Do you know how I would check to see which version of sk98lin is included with dapper?
[05:41] <radiohead> no, I was just wondering if it was root in case you don't have the permissions to run teh makefile
[05:41] <NthDegree> for kde it?s kdesu for gnome gksu :)
[05:41] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > sid@sid-laptop:~/Desktop/madwifi-0.9.0$ make
[05:41] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:95: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[05:41] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] >  I get that error exactly
[05:41] <tuxtheslacker> there we go :-P
[05:41] <ThePub> silvaran:  no need to justify it :)  it's an observation of oddness. (tends to lead me to not trust many of the defaults)
[05:41] <strav> hey there... here's something that appears to be a classic around xorg conf... (maybe some details are particular to ubuntu... hence I ask here), when I try different layout, I get the following error msg: Error activating XKB configuration
[05:41] <strav> Probably internal X server problem... I verified my xorg configuration for the keyboard, rules are set to xorg (as some people pointed out that rules definition could be a problem if not set to xorg)... if anyone have a clue, would be appreciated.
[05:41] <sam__> if there are any ubuntu devs in here MY GOD thank you for setting me free
[05:42] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : hold on
[05:42] <backz> but, parport                39560  3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp on lsmod! whereis my /dev/lp0 ? when I try to configure cups via gnome, it returns: "hp no_device_found"
[05:42] <runes> zodo, read the second line it says the installer will do that automatically
[05:42] <puff> What's the normal operating temperature for a pentium 2.4GHz?
[05:42] <silvaran> ThePub: Hey, I won't even let my closest friends anywhere near my laptop; no need to explain :)
[05:42] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[05:42] <runes> zodo, do not try to install the drivers in gui mode
[05:42] <tuxtheslacker> "could not write NthDegree
[05:42] <runes> do it at a true console
[05:42] <puff> That is, should I be worried that this machine that's been sitting there running nothing is at 145 degrees?
[05:42] <ThePub> silvaran:  I don't have a laptop, this is a desktop.  Hence why I don't find it gratifying.
[05:42] <zodo> runes: Oh, alright.  Kill my xserver then...can do.
[05:43] <NthDegree> ok then what is the device again tuxtheslacker?
[05:43] <sean> hello.  is there a way to install ubuntu directly from an iso on Windows 98 without first burning it to a CD?  I got an old laptop for free without a CD drive
[05:43] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > ok
[05:43] <runes> zodo yup
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ipod.
[05:43] <zodo> runes:  Well, I may or may not be back...possibly I'll be back on my other machine if things go badly.  =)
[05:43] <runes> zodo if the driver is in use and the files that need to be updted you could make things worse
[05:43] <elden> umm, guys, is it alright to have both kubuntu and ubuntu in your pc?
[05:43] <sam1001> sean, you can install it on network
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/sdb3 on /media/ipod type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[05:43] <krazykit> sean: not really.  if you can boot from a floppy, you could use debootstrap to install.
[05:43] <puff> Hm, well, I guess I'll see if it's dusty inside too.
[05:43] <silvaran> ThePub: Have you played around with the service config?... I usually rm the symlinks by hand, but you can usually get rid of the stuff desktops don't need (like lvm, raid, blah...)
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> I have sufficient privlidges, correct?
[05:43] <runes> zodo just be smart about it worst case you unistall the driver
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ^^
[05:44] <sam1001> sean, but you still have to boot to a console to do that
[05:44] <zodo> runes: I'll try to bring down the interface, then unload the module first.
[05:44] <NthDegree> tux the slacker try removing nodev :p
[05:44] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : did you read the requirements in teh INSTALL folder?
[05:44] <runes> zodo make backup copies of your config files so that you can set them back for you current driver
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, what is nodev?
[05:44] <silvaran> ThePub: I have a confession... I'm on windows right now!  Let me ssh into my other box and check things out :)
[05:44] <NthDegree> nodev = removing support for special devices
[05:44] <zodo> runes:  Which config files in particular would you recommend backing up?
[05:44] <ThePub> silvaran:  I'm not crusty, but am fairly familiar with debian.  Trust me, why else would someone notice unless they've been looking? :)
[05:44] <runes> sort of what you do when you update the graphx driver  backup
[05:44] <sam1001> i'm on windows
[05:44] <sean> i have a mac on my network, too, with the iso.  how would i install it over the network?
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, how would I remove it?
[05:45] <sam1001> you must have a boot disk
[05:45] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, no I didnt, heh I shoudv done that earlier. BTW I tried that command I came back with a error that the pakage could not be found
[05:45] <runes> zodo that is a good question...I know a bit but I am not that advanced..I can easily update drivers but without the man pages I really amo not so sure
[05:45] <NthDegree> try on fstab if you have it on there
[05:45] <zodo> runes:  Gotcha.  Well, thanks for the help.  Here goes.
[05:45] <Draconicus> No matter what I do, audio programs record from the mic. I've tried changing this in audacity, aumix, and a number of other things. It still records from mic even when other things are set. What's going on?
[05:45] <sam1001> sean, i guess you could store the boot disk image to a flash drive, and boot from usb
[05:45] <Nathanael> What is the name of the nice-looking web administration package for Ubuntu?
[05:45] <zodo> runes: Hopefully I'll see you soon.
[05:45] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : make sure you have a good sources.list in /etc/apt
[05:45] <runes> zodo good luck not that you will need it :-)
[05:45] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, it's not in fstab.
[05:45] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, sorry I spealt it wrong
[05:45] <sam1001> sean, the minimum is about 50mb
[05:45] <silvaran> ThePub: That's true... I guess the boot screen is a good way to determine whether or not you're a geek... Hey, is that seemingly random text garbage, or pure gold? :)
[05:46] <sean> ah, boot from usb - good idea, thx
[05:46] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, It says I have the latest version
[05:46] <NthDegree> try adding it to fstab maybe that is the problem
[05:46] <radiohead> hmmm
[05:46] <sam1001> sean, yea, it may sound a little fancy
[05:46] <cdubya> Nathanael, web administration, you mean like an all-in-one kinda thing? perhaps webmin?
[05:46] <Nathanael> There is web admin software right?
[05:46] <radiohead> then read teh requirements
[05:46] <radiohead> in teh INSTALL file
[05:46] <Nathanael> Yeah, it was like webmin...
[05:46] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, it's not listed in the fstab.
[05:46] <Nathanael> I remember eeing it on Digg awhile back
[05:46] <tuxtheslacker> how else owuld I cahgne it?
[05:46] <Nathanael> *seeing
[05:46] <cdubya> Nathanael, what are you looking to do
[05:46] <Nathanael> Control samba shares, printers, etc.
[05:46] <strav> anyone had this xkb problem (when trying to switch keyboard layouts?)
[05:46] <sam1001> sean, just wondering if you're installing linux your pc
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, any other ideas?
[05:47] <NthDegree> you add it to /etc/fstab using nano with the correct options
[05:47] <Nathanael> Webuntu?
[05:47] <cdubya> heh
[05:47] <sean> sam1001: yes, installing xubuntu over an old win98 install on a free laptop
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, I let it find itself. is there any way you could give me the line to add to fstab?
[05:47] <cdubya> you could just use the shared folders config in gnome if you like....for the shares anyway
[05:47] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[05:47] <sam1001> sean, great idea, that's my type
[05:47] <sean> i usually run gentoo on my servers, but prefer ubuntu for desktops - esp for my kids
[05:47] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, thank you for your help, but I have to go
[05:47] <radiohead> ok
[05:47] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, Ill drop in tomarrow
[05:48] <radiohead> yeah, the INSTALL file has everything you need to know
[05:48] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > bye ad thanks
[05:48] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Ill read through it
[05:48] <cdubya> Nathanael, you check into SWAT at all?
[05:48] <cdubya> might help you
[05:48] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, thanks! I really appriciate the ehlp.
[05:48] <sam1001> sean, have you made a linux partition yet
[05:48] <silvaran> sean: For your kids?  For the love of god, you ARE the modern father figure :)
[05:48] <cdubya> heh
[05:48] <cdubya> go sean
[05:48] <sean> i can't afford macs for everybody ;-)
[05:48] <NthDegree> tuxtheslacker:  /dev/sdb3    /media/ipod    hfsplus   rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000   0   0
[05:48] <radiohead> hahaha
[05:48] <cdubya> heh
[05:48] <cdubya> no doubr
[05:48] <NthDegree> (i think that is correct)
[05:48] <silvaran> sean: :)
[05:48] <cdubya> doubt, even
[05:49] <sean> besides, i set up ltsp at my kids school and it works well - they all dig it
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, we'll find out soon :-)
[05:49] <cdubya> sean, the only ones I have were gifts, so you could say they're a little old
[05:49] <cdubya> sweet.
[05:49] <NthDegree> you may have to do sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[05:49] <farous> hi, am having some problems with opera and the sun-java from the repos. opera can not find the java plugin dir anyone can help?
[05:49] <varsendaggr> how do i get a program to acces the net
[05:49] <NthDegree> after adding that to the fstab do sudo mount -a
[05:49] <radiohead> varsendaggr: what do you mean?
[05:49] <sean> thanks guys - over and out ... i'll try booting off a usb drive
[05:49] <cdubya> varsendaggr, yeah, what are you talking about?
[05:50] <bean> hi i need some help with cisco vpn. it requires the kernel headers, but i can only find 2.4.x kernel headers in synaptic
[05:50] <radiohead> varsendaggr: well, generally, you have to compile it, make sure there are no errors etc...
[05:50] <tuxtheslacker> mount: special device /dev/sdb3 does not exist
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, ^^
[05:51] <Nathanael> GTG
[05:51] <radiohead> tuxtheslacker: sata?
[05:51] <silvaran> bean: What about the 'linux-headers' package ??
[05:51] <NthDegree> doh lol
[05:51] <SirFunk> hey.. i just downloaded ubuntu ppc and i'm trying to install it on my powerbook.. however when the livecd starts up, it throws a bunch of errors about not being able to start nautilus and the gnome config editor crashing.. any ideas?
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> radiohead, no.
[05:51] <NthDegree> radiohead it? an ipod
[05:51] <radiohead> oh
[05:51] <radiohead> :-/
[05:52] <NthDegree> wtf with my s and ? mixing as ?
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, still no go.
[05:52] <bean> silvaran: thanks!!!
[05:52] <bean> silvaran: i'm blind
[05:52] <NthDegree> yea i figured tux
[05:52] <varsendaggr> it is a windows program and it wants to connect to a master server
[05:52] <morphix> i have xubuntu installed.. when i try i use the right click menu to exit xfce.. i get the "xfce4-session is not running error" even tho i can clearly see that it IS running, what could be the problem? screenshot >> http://members.westnet.com.au/morphix56/xfcesessionerror.JPG
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, you wanted to get rid of nodev in there, but under options you still have it set and nodev?
[05:52] <bean> silvaran: i only saw the kernel-headers packages
[05:52] <silvaran> bean: You're blind?  Wow, that's some amazing IRC interface you must have going there :)
[05:52] <NthDegree> oops
[05:52] <NthDegree> just remove nodev
[05:52] <bean> heh
[05:52] <silvaran> bean: I don't blame you, they are rather confusingly named :)
[05:53] <bean> yeah
[05:53] <varsendaggr> anyone
[05:53] <radiohead> varsendaggr: a windows program accessing an ubuntu server?
[05:53] <sam1001> why doesn't an executable run when i click on its icon
[05:53] <bean> kernel-headers and linux-kernel-headers
[05:53] <bean> sigh
[05:53] <silvaran> morphix: She needs bigger boobs... maybe that's your problem.
[05:53] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, is there any other way to deal with it?
[05:53] <morphix> eh.
[05:53] <varsendaggr> radiohead, a windows program connecting to a windows server
[05:54] <radiohead> varsendaggr: :-/ this is #ubuntu, not #windows
[05:54] <NthDegree> i don?t know as i don?t use proprietary stuff like ipods anymore
[05:54] <SirFunk> is there a text-based install util on the livecd?
[05:54] <sam1001> has anyone heard of WINE
[05:54] <radiohead> sam1001: yes
[05:54] <sam1001> WINE works just like windows and free
[05:54] <radiohead> sam1001: not really
[05:54] <silvaran> morphix: Sorry I'm just being a dufus... I can't help you :(
[05:54] <sam1001> radiohead how so
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> sam1001,  well thats an overstatement
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> its not  'just like' windows.
[05:55] <varsendaggr> i am running it in ubuntu
[05:55] <radiohead> sam1001: it can only run basic apps, with WoW
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, any other ideas?
[05:55] <morphix> sam1001 WINE works just like windows and free << yes it is.. its just as unstable :P
[05:55] <NthDegree> i have no ideas
[05:55] <sam1001> radiohead, they're still building it
[05:55] <NthDegree> brb
[05:55] <silvaran> morphix: : Good call :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> sam1001,  and they will never be done... so whats the point.
[05:55] <radiohead> sam1001: yeah they are, but it is way less powerful than windows
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree,  :-( thanks for the help anyhow. is there any other way to make it mount without nodev?
[05:55] <radiohead> varsendaggr: oh
[05:56] <tuxtheslacker> anyone else manage to get an ipod to work with linux?
[05:56] <radiohead> varsendaggr: ho do you know it isn't connecting?
[05:56] <radiohead> how*
[05:57] <varsendaggr> it tells me and it sayis maybe you should confiugre you firewall
[05:57] <morphix> tuxtheslacker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:57] <varsendaggr> how should i do that?
[05:57] <radiohead> that's weird
[05:57] <radiohead> what is it? the app?
[05:57] <Dial_tone> define work, My nano shows up in dapper drake and I can play stuff. i haven't copied to it yet
[05:58] <varsendaggr> XBOX connect
[05:58] <sam1001> dial_tone, can you transfer files between linux and your nano
[05:58] <radiohead> varsendaggr: heh, good luck with that
[05:59] <backz> Hey, I'm using ubuntu 6.06, with kernel linux-k7, I haven't /dev/lp0 but lsmod returns parport_pc, parport, is loaded. Dmesg returns: [17179590.824000]  lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[05:59] <backz> can someone help me ?
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> morphix, I've done that, but it's telling me I don't have permissions when the thing mounts.
[05:59] <varsendaggr> radiohead, it has to be simple right   it is using a port and i just need to let it use the port
[05:59] <morphix> well than i cant help.. if i had a IGay i could
[05:59] <radiohead> nah, not with WINE
[06:00] <radiohead> varsendaggr: you are using WINE correct>
[06:00] <radiohead> or cedega?
[06:00] <varsendaggr> yeah wine
[06:00] <radiohead> yeah, i doubt wine can handle it
[06:00] <cdubya> morphix, :)
[06:00] <varsendaggr> hmmm
[06:00] <morphix> i have xubuntu installed.. when i try i use the right click menu to exit xfce.. i get the "xfce4-session is not running error" even tho i can clearly see that it IS running, what could be the problem? screenshot >> http://members.westnet.com.au/morphix56/xfcesessionerror.JPG
[06:00] <radiohead> try cedega
[06:00] <morphix> :(
[06:00] <radiohead> morphix: try going into a tty
[06:01] <radiohead> and killalling it
[06:01] <ThePub> oh well, third restart is a charm I guess :)
[06:01] <spikeb> morphix: nice background, where can i get it?
[06:01] <varsendaggr> radiohead, i think i am just going to VMplayer win200k and do it up.... when i can get 1000 extra mb of disk space
[06:01] <bean> silvaran: can u help me again? i'm using the 686 kernel, so i have both a /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25 and a /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25-686 directory. when i install cisco it asks for "the" headers directory. which one should i give it?
[06:01] <radiohead> varsendaggr: VMplayer rules
[06:01] <sam1001> linux becomes unstable when there is a driver error
[06:01] <radiohead> that should work
[06:02] <sam1001> and it quits to console mode
[06:02] <morphix> radiohead: i know other ways of getting out of xfce.. but i want the NORMAL way to work.
[06:02] <varsendaggr> i hate dual booting
[06:02] <radiohead> oh, haha
[06:02] <varsendaggr> yeah
[06:02] <Cin> spikeb, you talking about the pic of that woman who looks like her from Underworld?
[06:02] <morphix> spikeb: www.skins.be
[06:03] <cdubya> what exactly is VMPlayer's func?
[06:03] <spikeb> is that jennifer love hewitt ?
[06:03] <morphix> no.
[06:03] <morphix> its the chick from underworld :P
[06:03] <spikeb> damn it
[06:03] <spikeb> good enough
[06:03] <varsendaggr> cdubya, it is a virtual machine
[06:04] <silvaran> bean: I would use the 686 dir just to be safe, but it's possible the other one is just a symlink.
[06:04] <cdubya> varsendaggr, so you can run winders apps inside of it....?
[06:04] <morphix> damnit >.< why the heck wont xfce log out even tho stupid ass xfce4-session IS running.. wtf is the problem.
[06:04] <varsendaggr> cdubya, you can run windows inside of it
[06:04] <cdubya> ah
[06:04] <cdubya> sweet
[06:04] <Lock1> how do i get gaim to get rid of these stupid invite add send buttons on the bottom
[06:05] <bean> silvaran: u're right the 686 dir is *mostly* symlinks
[06:05] <varsendaggr> cdubya, and bsd and etch and xandros and dapper and the new ubuntu
[06:05] <tuxtheslacker> how do I change permissions on this thing when it mounts automatically?
[06:05] <bean> so u think i should use the 686 dir still?
[06:05] <sam1001> invent a way to switch between windows and linux instantaneously
[06:05] <tuxtheslacker> like how can I find out how it mounted?
[06:05] <varsendaggr> you don't even have to partition
[06:05] <cdubya> varsendagger, there a deb to install anywhere?
[06:05] <bean> oops
[06:05] <varsendaggr> sam1001, cdubya just a sec
[06:06] <sam1001> varsendaggr, ?
[06:06] <cdubya>  varsendaggr, if you've got a winders install, can you run that inside of vmplayer, or does it have to be installed inside the VMPlayer environment
[06:07] <radiohead> |_ocke: get gaim2.0
[06:07] <sam1001> cdubya is a name
[06:07] <sam1001> now it makes sense
[06:07] <cdubya> heh
[06:07] <|_ocke> oh i see
[06:07] <|_ocke> is it in synaptic
[06:07] <radiohead> nope
[06:07] <radiohead> it's best to svn it and compile it
[06:07] <sam1001> virtual machines are always slow
[06:08] <Wewt> hello people. ive recently installed windows vista its not too bad but does it really mess up the booting part. i cannot access any linux partitions and ive tried numerous methods of trying to get grub working with the ubuntu cd etc, get all sorts of errors about how it fails to grub-install etc, are there any users who have had the same issue? (do i need to reinstall ubuntu?)
[06:08] <|_ocke> virtual machines are not real programming
[06:08] <sam1001> java is an example
[06:08] <sam1001> jvm
[06:08] <radiohead> Wewt: did you install ubuntu first or windows?
[06:08] <|_ocke> IMO
[06:08] <|_ocke> EXACTLY
[06:08] <radiohead> oh
[06:08] <radiohead> does vista protect teh MBR?
[06:09] <varsendaggr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMwarePlayerAndQemu?highlight=%28emu%29
[06:09] <Wewt> radiohead windows xp, ubuntu and just recently after someone told me to try it out i installed vista
[06:09] <Wewt> i think so
[06:09] <tuxtheslacker> can someone PLEASE help me with my iPod? I kind of really need it to work :-(
[06:09] <varsendaggr> sam1001, ^^^^^
[06:09] <sam1001> hi varsendaggr
[06:09] <varsendaggr> hi
[06:09] <Wewt> radiohead i think it has some kinda protection
[06:09] <radiohead> heh, you have to install GRUB onto a floppy or something and boot from that to choose
[06:09] <Wewt> aww i wish i had a floppy drive :/
[06:10] <varsendaggr> cdubya, there is the link up there
[06:10] <Wewt> possible to install it onto a cdrom? make it bootable etc?
[06:10] <radiohead> Wewt: usb drive?
[06:10] <cdubya> kewl, thanks.
[06:10] <radiohead> Wewt: probably
[06:10] <Wewt> i have a usb drive
[06:10] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, you look at the wiki?
[06:10] <|_ocke> how do i get x-chat to show back up on the synaptic list after i uninstall it
[06:10] <Wewt> but i dont think i can boot off a usb device
[06:10] <radiohead> whichever works best for you
[06:10] <|_ocke> it is not installed and it doesnt show up in the list
[06:10] <radiohead> |_ocke: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:10] <radiohead> :-/
[06:10] <sam1001> so does vmware run on windows
[06:10] <Wewt> i see so this will be required every time i wish to boot into ubuntu until there is a solution ?
[06:11] <radiohead> sam1001: no
[06:11] <radiohead> Wewt: maybe
[06:11] <Wewt> ok and how would i go about making a "grub" cd ?
[06:11] <radiohead> I really don't know what all to do with dual-booting with vista
[06:11] <radiohead> that just seems like the best thing to do IMO
[06:11] <Wewt> radiohead lol trust me dont go there :)
[06:12] <cdubya> man, I've had a fit just getting grub to install with XP....let alone even considering vista.....no thanks. :)
[06:12] <someothernick> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
[06:12] <radiohead> and I don't know how to install grub to a CD
[06:12] <radiohead> google it
[06:12] <Wewt> hogs resources like nothing ive seen before
[06:12] <Wewt> someothernick thanks
[06:12] <someothernick> np
[06:12] <radiohead> cdubya: reallY?
[06:12] <cdubya> radiohead, yep.
[06:12] <radiohead> I install ubuntu and XP all teh time on the same machine and never have a problem
[06:12] <cdubya> man, I've tried everything I could find or ask.....still no dice.
[06:13] <cdubya> Course I keep trying to tell the guy to try Ubuntu, but he's jetset on Fedora
[06:13] <radiohead> cdubya: what's teh problem?
[06:13] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why I can't use 1024x768 resolution with unreal tournament? If I try it closes the game and leaves me in 640x480 resolution...
[06:13] <|_ocke> WOOHOO
[06:13] <|_ocke> got it back
[06:13] <|_ocke> :P
[06:13] <|_ocke> i hate x-chat gnome
[06:13] <|_ocke> and gaim irc
[06:13] <|_ocke> brb
[06:13] <radiohead> lol
[06:13] <someothernick> :/
[06:13] <radiohead> irssi
[06:13] <radiohead> rules
[06:14] <varsendaggr> cdubya,  you need to do xp first then ubuntu
[06:14] <radiohead> yeah
[06:14] <cdubya> radiohead, boot to rescue, chroot to /mnt/sysimage, grub-install /dev/hda ...reboot....no grub menu....boots to XP. NO MATTER WHAT I'VE TRIED.
[06:14] <radiohead> since GRUB goes on teh MBR
[06:14] <cdubya> varsendaggr, I know that. ;)
[06:14] <Wewt> someothernick hmm i dont have a linux machine :/
[06:14] <Draconicus> No matter what I do, audio programs record from the mic. I've tried changing this in audacity, aumix, and a number of other things. It still records from mic even when other things are set. What's going on?
[06:14] <someothernick> :/
[06:14] <varsendaggr> ohhh
[06:14] <cdubya> XP was there first the whole time
[06:14] <cdubya> heh
[06:14] <cdubya> It's all Winders fault.
[06:14] <cdubya> I'm sure of it.
[06:14] <cdubya> Or at least that sounds good.
[06:14] <cdubya> :)
[06:14] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:14] <Lorri> D<
[06:15] <Dr_Geek> XP = Xtra Problems
[06:15] <varsendaggr> cdubya, youneed to get rid of xp then run it under vmplayer
[06:15] <Wewt> ahahahah
[06:15] <Wewt> Dr_Geek nicely put what about Vista ?:P
[06:15] <Lorri> What version of X does Ubuntu use
[06:15] <Dr_Geek> more crap
[06:15] <radiohead> Lorri: System>Preferences>KeyBoard Shortcuts
[06:15] <cdubya> radiohead, no, seriously, I've spent HOURS and HOURS trying to resolve it....nothing helped.
[06:15] <spikeb> Lorri: x.org 7.0 in dapper
[06:16] <radiohead> cdubya: have you booted into recovery mode on windows and ran fixmbr, then reinstalled grub?
[06:16] <chris_> DBO here?
[06:16] <Lorri> oh ok
[06:16] <Lorri> Also, shift+backspace isn't in the keyboard shortcuts thing
[06:16] <myworld122> hey guys...i'm having problem while trying to mount ntfs vol with write support. I'ved tried this guide many times: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=write+ntfs. but i cant get it work...any suggestions?
[06:16] <chris_> DBO you here man?
[06:16] <cdubya> radiohead, I had to run recovery mode on windows just to get the thing to boot at all as at one point, after the grub-install retry for the umpteenth time, it wouldn't boot at all.....
[06:17] <radiohead> wow
[06:17] <cdubya> and yes, I did a fixmbr. ;)
[06:17] <radiohead> tha tsucks
[06:17] <cdubya> yeah.
[06:17] <cdubya> tell me about it.
[06:17] <radiohead> that*
[06:17] <radiohead> lol
[06:17] <efox> hey
[06:17] <cdubya> He wanted me to call in "the big guns".
[06:17] <cdubya> Went to #fedora.
[06:17] <efox> hooray :D
[06:17] <cdubya> Asked here....
[06:17] <cdubya> no dice
[06:17] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why I can't use 1024x768 resolution with unreal tournament? If I try it closes the game and leaves me in 640x480 resolution...
[06:17] <radiohead> I am still on Breezy...
[06:18] <cdubya> It's cool to convert your friends.
[06:18] <blank> chris_, you there man?
[06:18] <Sivik> how do i view my login manager file
[06:18] <Locke_> i have my roommate using ubuntu
[06:18] <cdubya> "Friends convert friends to Dapper."
[06:18] <varsendaggr> hey this is the best thing about linux two words      live CD
[06:18] <cdubya> heh
[06:18] <chris_> blank i am here
[06:18] <radiohead> Cntryboy: why would you want to run a 1024, it's a waste of RAM
[06:18] <|_ocke> dapper even
[06:18] <blank> chris_, hey it's me man, blanky
[06:18] <chris_> ;) send the movie?
[06:18] <|_ocke> and hes never even seen linux before
[06:18] <blanky> chris_, :D if you can, that'd be great! if not it's okay :)
[06:18] <Cntryboy> because it looks better than 800x600
[06:18] <chris_> blank i got high all day sorry i am late so much to do now
[06:18] <Madpilot> varsendaggr, LiveCD is one word ;)
[06:18] <chris_> ok ill send it on here
[06:18] <efox> I have a question on where to find something in particular. Ive seen screen shots of some THING where the terminal was either part of the desktop  or the terminal had its own wallpaper...anyone kno what im talkin bout ?
[06:19] <cdubya> suweet......setting up the packages.....can't wait to get him on Dapper.....
[06:19] <cdubya> :D
[06:19] <cdubya> later tony. :)
[06:19] <chris_> let me know the speed ;)
[06:19] <varsendaggr> Madpilot, hey you are smart
[06:19] <myworld122> hey guys...i'm having problem while trying to mount ntfs vol with write support. I'ved tried this guide many times: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&highlight=write+ntfs. but i cant get it work...any suggestions?
[06:19] <radiohead> efox: that is a resource whore, so if you want firefox to take like a minute to start, I wouldn't us eit
[06:19] <efox> is this a 'theme' im lookin for or is it something i can do on my own
[06:19] <Cntryboy> radiohead did ya see my response?
[06:19] <efox> i dont think u can write on ntfs
[06:19] <radiohead> s/if/unless
[06:19] <efox> i think its only read
[06:20] <cdubya> efox, yep
[06:20] <efox> but im a n00b so what do i kno...
[06:20] <radiohead> Cntryboy: :-/
[06:20] <Cntryboy> it does though lol
[06:20] <radiohead> make sure your drivers are configured right
[06:20] <Cntryboy> so do u know how I can fix my problem?
[06:20] <Sivik> nickrud, can you help me, i'm trying to find the session/login manager
[06:20] <chris_> blanky is it downloading?
[06:20] <radiohead> does everything else run fine?
[06:20] <myworld122> efox: try reading the guide...my friend can get it work with fedore
[06:20] <blanky> chris_, eh?
[06:20] <myworld122> fedore
[06:20] <myworld122> fedora
[06:20] <chris_> i sent it on here?
[06:20] <Cntryboy> my drivers are
[06:20] <Cntryboy> the game works
[06:20] <efox> myworld122: get what working ?
[06:20] <Cntryboy> the config file has nvidia not nv
[06:20] <Cntryboy> i don't know what else to change
[06:21] <myworld122> efox: writing on NTFS vom
[06:21] <myworld122> vol
[06:21] <radiohead> did you run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[06:21] <cdubya> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[06:21] <efox> myworld122: lol wrong person
[06:21] <blanky> chris_, nah you didn't, you might've but i didn't get any notice, hey man, you're going to send it through irc? that'd be kinda slow heh, why not just give me the link to the file, if not it's okay, if you insist on irc transfer :P
[06:21] <Cntryboy> not sure
[06:21] <Cntryboy> what does that do?
[06:21] <Madpilot> efox, you can set gnome terminal to have a background
[06:21] <radiohead> run it
[06:21] <myworld122> efox: sorry
[06:21] <butler> hi. do linux ubuntu need to install anti virus?
[06:21] <radiohead> then restart GNOME
[06:21] <Madpilot> butler, no
[06:21] <someothernick> yes no
[06:21] <Cntryboy> k
[06:21] <radiohead> butler: no
[06:21] <efox> myworld122:  lol no worries
[06:22] <myworld122> cdubya: thanks
[06:22] <chris_> blanky  :| if dbo was here he would help me out on my ftp :(
[06:22] <Madpilot> efox, Edit->Current Profile, Effects tab
[06:22] <varsendaggr> hey i have two nic's how do i share my connection?
[06:22] <efox> Madpilot: how do you set the terminal or if u can throw me a keyword to google
[06:22] <chris_> ;) then ull get it
[06:22] <butler> i'm using a pentium 3 laptop. after installation, i did purchase a wifi adapter card ( Aztech ) how to configure?
[06:22] <efox> Madpilot: ok cool. I'll have a go at it
[06:22] <efox> thanks
[06:22] <chris_> or apache would be helpful to be fixed
[06:22] <cdubya> myworld122, np
[06:22] <varsendaggr> is there a way to controll a windows program from my machine on the same network
[06:22] <blanky> chris_, LOL, it's okay then man i'll wait, the time I wait for you to put it on ftp would be faster than the time it'd take to send through here, unless you dont mind leaving your computer on and stuff
[06:22] <Cntryboy> radiohead check pm
[06:23] <cdubya> varsendaggr, umm, huh?
[06:23] <chris_> i dont mind leaving my computer on ;)
[06:23] <chris_> well laptop
[06:23] <chris_> :)
[06:23] <|_ocke> can i resize my / partition
[06:24] <|_ocke> its pretty much full and ubuntu doesnt install anything in /usr
[06:24] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:24] <Lorri> to restart X
[06:24] <chris_> blanky unless gaim transfer it?
[06:24] <blanky> chris_, probably'd take even longer
[06:24] <|_ocke> i made /usr 7 gigs and / 3 in anticipation of it  installing extra stuff on /usr
[06:24] <radiohead> I want some root beer
[06:24] <chris_> blanky sry :|
[06:24] <blanky> chris_, let me boot into my other ubuntu partition kay?
[06:24] <gr33npho4nix> chris_: did you try -c blowfish option for sftp
[06:24] <blanky> chris_, it's okay man
[06:24] <Cntryboy> radiohead I left the error msg in ur pm
[06:24] <Cntryboy> so i didn't scroll in here
[06:24] <gr33npho4nix> that tens to speed things up a good portion for me
[06:24] <Dial_tone> locke, when did you first install
[06:24] <chris_> using proftpd
[06:25] <cdubya> root beer.......
[06:25] <blanky> chris_, so you don't mind leaving your computer on? kay cool, we can leave it on downloading during the (at least where I live) night
[06:25] <cdubya> oh man, it's all diet....
[06:25] <cdubya> heh
[06:25] <cdubya> something really twisted about that
[06:25] <chris_> yah sounds gud blanky
[06:25] <chris_> pm me
[06:25] <blanky> kay
[06:25] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:25] <Cntryboy> radiohead?
[06:26] <blanky> hey guys
[06:26] <radiohead> Cntryboy: Yeah
[06:26] <radiohead> read the pom
[06:26] <radiohead> pm*
[06:26] <blanky> would this ( cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast ) really blank a CD-R at /dev/cdrom? so that I can write over it?
[06:26] <radiohead> run that command
[06:26] <Cntryboy> you never wrote back
[06:26] <radiohead> that it tells you to run
[06:26] <Cntryboy> are you reg. to this network
[06:26] <Cntryboy> ur nickname
[06:26] <cdubya> this upgrade goes alot smoother using the update manager........and it's going rather quickly, even on my friend's older laptop.....
[06:26] <radiohead> heh, I hope I will be
[06:26] <Cntryboy> if ur not reg nick u can't pm me
[06:27] <Cntryboy> because i didn't see anything u wrote
[06:27] <radiohead> run that md5 command it tells you to run
[06:27] <varsendaggr> has anyone used putty?
[06:27] <Cntryboy> so why do I have to run that command
[06:27] <cdubya> by the way, thumbs up to the developer crew on Dapper....the upgrade setup was great. Made it really slick.
[06:27] <Cntryboy> what is it having me do?
[06:27] <jrib> varsendaggr: yes
[06:27] <cdubya> varsendaggr, yep
[06:28] <varsendaggr> jrib, can you use it to run programs on windows form you linux box?
[06:28] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please do me a huge favor and tell me how to change permissions on my ipod?
[06:28] <cdubya> varsendaggr, whatcha trying to do?
[06:28] <Cntryboy> radiohead, it came back with this, 2949ed043bcf70bb326e1e73da8760ee  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:28] <monkeyan> could someone please help me with direct redering with 9600xt card?
[06:28] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: chmod
[06:28] <radiohead> Cntryboy: because the MD5 sum of your config file doesn't match what it should be
[06:28] <varsendaggr> use my wife's computer to run a windows program
[06:28] <radiohead> Cntryboy: now run the first command
[06:28] <jrib> varsendaggr: guess you would have to setup an ssh server on the windows box, haven't done that myself
[06:28] <radiohead> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:28] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I chmod 777 /media/ipod, and still dind't change the permissions
[06:28] <varsendaggr> hmmmmm
[06:29] <efox> sweeet !
[06:29] <varsendaggr> but that would be the way to do it?
[06:29] <cdubya> varsendaggr, you have like XDeep or and XServer to setup forwarding through putty?
[06:29] <efox> i wish i knew more of the things i can do with linux
[06:29] <Cntryboy> okay it wants to restart
[06:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: sudo chmod -R 777
[06:29] <Cntryboy> so
[06:29] <tuxtheslacker> -R ?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> is this setting the config file back to defaults
[06:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: recursive
[06:29] <radiohead> to what it should be
[06:29] <radiohead> yes
[06:29] <Cntryboy> im not sure what im doing these commands for
[06:29] <radiohead> you need to restart X for the changes to take effect
[06:29] <Cntryboy> only thing I changed was the line nv to nvidia
[06:29] <Cntryboy> like the help tells me 2
[06:29] <varsendaggr> cdubya, i am just going to byte the bullet and get a bigger hard drive
[06:30] <Cntryboy> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:30] <radiohead> yeah
[06:30] <efox> i tried to play around with 'alias' in my .bash_profile it doesnt do anything. However if i create an alias in terminal it works fine...any thoughts
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I'm not getting this to work.
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> what's the full command krazykit?
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> sudo chmod -R /media/ipod 777 breaks.
[06:30] <jrib> efox: bash_profile only gets sourced for login shells
[06:30] <jrib> efox: you may want to use ~/.bashrc instead
[06:31] <radiohead> I hope that Ctry guy knows how to startx X back up
[06:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: sudo chmod 777 -R /media/ipod
[06:31] <cdubya> varsendaggr, k. :)
[06:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: hfs+ works: http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/hacks/ipod.html#hfs
[06:31] <efox> jrib:  so if i log out and log in, would the alias' i created work or no ? and ya ill play around with .bashrc as well
[06:31] <jrib> efox: are you using a terminal in X or is this an actual login shell?
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it's telling me it doens't have permissions....
[06:32] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: is that the exact error message?
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> it gives owners write permission, and that's it.
[06:32] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, did you type sudo before the command
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> yeah.
[06:32] <jrib> efox: are you in gnome or kde now?
[06:32] <efox> jrib: pardon my lack of knowledge
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, chmod works, but it doesn't change permissions on it when I right-click and hit permissions.
[06:33] <efox> jrib: gnome
[06:33] <efox> jrib: im unsure of how to respond to the terminal in x or login shell question :S
[06:33] <cdubya> radiohead, heh....just saw your comment. :)
[06:33] <cdubya> hope he does too.
[06:33] <radiohead> oh
[06:33] <radiohead> heh
[06:33] <radiohead> yeah
[06:34] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: then i don't know.  i just know that hfs+ writing works, and that libgpod doesn't care about the filesystem.
[06:34] <SurfnKid> question
[06:34] <tuxtheslacker> and krazykit the exact message form amarok is "Could not write to /media/iPod_Control/Music/F01/kpod1.mp3.
[06:34] <SurfnKid> Does AIGLX run on 5.10?
[06:34] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:34] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, this is true... I just need to grant it permissions when it auto mounts so that I can write to it?
[06:35] <jrib> efox: this was confusing when I first learned about it too, and I may not explain it in the best way...  X is the thing that gives you the gui, so if you are in gnome you are in X.  Now, press ctrl-alt-f1 and that will be a login shell, to return to X, press alt-f7.  To answer your question, no your alias won't work if you logout and back in, you need to use ~/.bashrc because that is what file bash will source when you run it under gnome
[06:35] <SurfnKid> I would like to do the 3D rendering but not sure if it is supported by the kerrnel or whatnot
[06:35] <tuxtheslacker> it gives the owner write permissions supposedly.
[06:35] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: iunno, probably.  in theory, automount should give you permissions anyway.
[06:35] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: but it sounds more like it's NOT mounted as rw.
[06:35] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it says that owner has it.
[06:35] <patch> bla, bla, bla... |
[06:35] <patch> |
[06:35] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/sda3 on /media/ipod-1 type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[06:36] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, ls -al /media/ipod
[06:36] <efox> jrib: sweeet...ok ill play around with the .bashrc and see what happens
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/sda3 on /media/ipod-1 type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 2006-06-16 23:36 .created_by_pmount
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> sorry.
[06:36] <tuxtheslacker> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2006-06-16 23:36 .
[06:37] <tuxtheslacker> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2006-06-17 00:03 ..
[06:37] <tuxtheslacker> I'm sorry, I shoulnd't have posted that many lines,  Iknow.
[06:37] <chris_> u guys doing ftp server?
[06:37] <jrib> efox: once you edit ~/.bashrc, it will only take effect if you open a new terminal, or source the file yourself with this command: source ~/.bashrc
[06:37] <krazykit> chris_: no.
[06:37] <chris_> what is it?
[06:37] <krazykit> ipod
[06:37] <chris_> oh ok
[06:37] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, cdubya ^^
[06:37] <chris_> :)
[06:37] <cdubya> tuxtheslacker, have you tried gtkpod at all?
[06:38] <chris_> DBO you here?
[06:38] <chris_> :P
[06:38] <tuxtheslacker> cdubya, gtkpod won't even read it.
[06:38] <cdubya> ah
[06:38] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: yes, couldn't miss it.  maybe try chowning it too?
[06:38] <cdubya> that's what I was thinking...
[06:38] <chris_> i love ubuntu with GTK2-ClearlooksDarkOrange
[06:38] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I think I needed to install gtkpod-aac too, and not gtkpod... that'd explain it.
[06:39] <Sivik> i need to know how to edit my xdm so it regonizes e17
[06:39] <cdubya> welp, going to call it a night. night all
[06:39] <wrath> Hello all, can someone help: I am trying to run a perl script in the terminal, I have given the script the proper permissions, yet once I run it the terminal appears and quickly closes. Is there a way to stop it from closing and doing what I told it to do. Sorry for the long question.
[06:39] <chris_> someone could help me with my apache :)
[06:39] <tuxtheslacker> yup, gtkpod-aac doens't even read it.
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> i've just installed 3ddesk but i get this message: "3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[06:40] <Dex-Freudii> "
[06:40] <Lorri> How do I get rid of the shift+backspace hotkey
[06:40] <Lorri> erm
[06:40] <Lorri> nvm
[06:40] <Lorri> >_>; found it myself
[06:40] <krazykit> wrath: run it from a terminal, not from nautilus
[06:41] <Dex-Freudii> how do I configure hardware acceleration?
[06:41] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: ati or nvidia?
[06:41] <Samus_Aran> does Ubuntu archive older releases of software ?  I am currently on a 2.6.15 kernel and not wanting to reboot, but need to compile a kernel module that requires a source tree for the currently running kernel
[06:41] <Dex-Freudii> none
[06:41] <wrath> Is there a way in which I can just click the icon and have it run that way?
[06:41] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: ... then what kind of card?
[06:41] <wrath> It gives me the option to but it won't work that way
[06:41] <Dex-Freudii> regular? i don't know
[06:41] <tuxtheslacker> I think I was trying to copy oggs too.
[06:41] <robert_> I want an online apt-get repository, where can I find one/
[06:42] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: i'm asking about the graphics card your computer uses.  "regular" is not an option.  in a terminal, do "lspci" and look for either nvidia or ati
[06:42] <Dex-Freudii> S3 Savage
[06:43] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: do "glxinfo|grep rendering"
[06:43] <Samus_Aran> screw it, gonna reboot
[06:43] <Dex-Freudii> "direct rendering: No
[06:43] <Dex-Freudii> "
[06:44] <jrib> ubotu: tell robert_ about easysource
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> gar!! why is this thing not working!?
[06:44] <ChakRa> guys whats the command to install fping on dapper/ubuntu?? i tried sudo apt-get install fping didnt work
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> :-(
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, can you send me any ideas you would have for an fstab?
[06:44] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: search around for the s3 savage card and how to get direct rendering working.  i'm not familiar with it
[06:45] <raldi> I think my /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386 is corrupt. If there's anyone out there who has a copy, can you send me the md5sum? Thanks
[06:45] <Dex-Freudii> what is direct rendering?
[06:45] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: nope.  ubuntu uses some automounter
[06:45] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I know.... it kinda stinks :-(
[06:45] <krazykit> Dex-Freudii: it uses the graphics card to do 3d stuff.
[06:45] <tuxtheslacker> I like it but I hate it too!
[06:45] <tich> hi. i've been having trouble streaming radio. it is all choppy in both listen and rhythmbox podcasts are also choppy. what should i do?
[06:45] <marky> raldi, a560fa2b64412de75d9d1557452e8670  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
[06:45] <Dex-Freudii> krazykit, thanx
[06:45] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: meaning find the config for the automounter.
[06:45] <tuxtheslacker> yeah, where is the config?
[06:46] <krazykit> dunno.
[06:46] <Frogzoo> tich: get more b/w
[06:46] <Sashi> hey
[06:46] <Sashi> how do i check my hdas again?
[06:46] <Sashi> i forgot
[06:47] <tich> frogzoo, how do i get more band width?
[06:48] <raldi> marky: hmm. mine's dbb7c784900d12c1592a1c6b34813346 even though it has the same filename.
[06:48] <marky> why do you think it's corrupt
[06:48] <marky> just remake a new one
[06:49] <raldi> i tried, but when i boot, it fails to find /dev/hda
[06:49] <raldi> and dumps me into busybox
[06:49] <bean> hi need urgent help
[06:49] <bean> can't get cisco vpn to work
[06:49] <bean> or vpnc
[06:49] <raldi> i found an open ubuntu bug for this, but the workaround doesn't work
[06:49] <Sashi> erm
[06:49] <Sashi> a lil help
[06:49] <Sashi> when i do sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:49] <raldi> it says to run evms_activate, but when i do that, it says, "Unable to open the control node for Device-Manager"
[06:49] <Sashi> it says xchat not found
[06:49] <noiesmo> hello is there someway I can password protect folders in my home directory
[06:50] <raldi> searching Google for that string turns up no workable leads
[06:50] <IsDis4Me> I need HELP, how do I install NVIDIA GLX
[06:50] <IsDis4Me> it wont accept the enable command
[06:50] <krazykit> ubotu: tell IsDis4Me about nvidia
[06:51] <tich> Frogzoo, do you mean: set up the programs so that they use more bandwidth?
[06:51] <Cntryboy> radiohead, you screwed up my whole pc dude
[06:51] <Cntryboy> I'm having to use live cd now
[06:51] <Cntryboy> x couldn't be started back up leaving me with command prompt not knowing what to do
[06:52] <Cntryboy> I need some help folks
[06:52] <Cntryboy> big time
[06:52] <Sivik> Cntryboy, what is it this time?
[06:52] <Dial_tone> sashi use synaptic and make sure you have all the repositories enabled
[06:53] <Sashi> ah i forgot about that
[06:53] <Sashi> :P
[06:53] <Sashi> btw
[06:53] <Sashi> ubuntu changed a lot eh
[06:53] <Cntryboy> some dude called radiohead had me do a command to tell x to go default and then a command to restart it
[06:53] <Sashi> i remeber using ubuntu when it was at v4
[06:53] <Cntryboy> he then said restart X, when I did x couldn't be restarted leaving me in prompt, now im in live cd
[06:53] <Sashi> warty i think it was called :p
[06:54] <krazykit> Cntryboy: that doesn't tell us anything.  was it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or something like that?
[06:54] <tich> my stream radio is all choppy in both listen and rhythmbox. i have a highspeed connection and the programs work in all other respects.  what should i do?
[06:54] <Cntryboy> shit I don't remember
[06:54] <Cntryboy> i copied and pasted
[06:54] <SurfnKid> guys i have Ubuntu 6.06 running on a Vaio Laptop, How can I shut off the xserver so that i only get a login prompt. and also the ability to turn the xserver back on
[06:54] <Cntryboy> I just need to get my X config to start in normal mode
[06:54] <krazykit> Cntryboy: well, if we don't know what you did, it's a lot harder to help.
[06:55] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:55] <Cntryboy> I tried telling u, he had me do a command to make my shit whats it call
[06:55] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: then sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start restarts it
[06:55] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:55] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Language.
[06:55] <Cntryboy> what will that do noiesmo
[06:55] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, select vesa as video drive will run with any card to get you X
[06:55] <Cntryboy> can I do that from here or do I have to boot up normally?
[06:56] <krazykit> Cntryboy: boot up normally.
[06:56] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ^^
[06:56] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, let me ask you this, will it consume more memory if its on. while im working on the other 7 tty workspaces or will it not make a difference stopping it
[06:56] <robert_> jrib: so, where to I put this list?
[06:56] <NthDegree> krazykit, will patching in reiser4 then doing sudo make modules and sudo make modules_install give me reiser4 support?
[06:56] <Cntryboy> okay let me write that down js
[06:56] <SirFunk> does ubuntu server install a gui by default
[06:56] <Madpilot> SirFunk, no, not the server install
[06:56] <Sivik> Sir_Brizz, no
[06:56] <SirFunk> ahh ok
[06:56] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: It'll swap out if you aren't using it and need the RAM
[06:57] <MrBrizzio> Sivik, lol, not me :)
[06:57] <NthDegree> ubuntu desktop and ubuntu alternate do though
[06:57] <krazykit> NthDegree: yeah, it should.
[06:57] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, ok so it will make a diff, cool to know
[06:57] <Cntryboy> okay let me try that
[06:57] <Cntryboy> I did notice though after he had me do that
[06:58] <NthDegree> k :D
[06:58] <rupert> any ndis wizards around? syslog says that 1.8 doesn't match driver version 1.7, and i have no idea what that means.
[06:58] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, its an old laptop, im trying to not consume a lot of ram, gui runs just fine but until i get more memory I dont wanna drag the hdd
[06:58] <Cntryboy> my video card in conf was changed to ati radion instead of gts pro 2
[06:58] <Cntryboy> but driver device was still nvidia
[06:58] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: How much RAM do you have?
[06:58] <krazykit> Cntryboy: yeah, that's probably the problem
[06:58] <Sivik> MrBrizzio, when i did message you?
[06:58] <Cntryboy> why would he have me do that knowing I have nvidia not ati
[06:58] <Cntryboy> a;sldkfj
[06:58] <edarague>  Soy novato en Linux... alguien sabe que combinacion de teclado pone tildes?
[06:59] <Cntryboy> radiohead told me what to do
[06:59] <krazykit> edarague: #ubuntu-es
[06:59] <Cntryboy> ask him he's in here
[06:59] <Amaranth> !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:59] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, its a PIII500Mhz 128MB and 6.06 runs "just fine" but dragging starts when i run progams and the swapping begins
[06:59] <Amaranth> ouch, yeah
[06:59] <NthDegree> lmfao
[06:59] <krazykit> Cntryboy: perhaps he didn't know what he's doing?
[06:59] <Cntryboy> radiohead
[06:59] <Cntryboy> u here
[06:59] <Amaranth> the default desktop (before opening apps) uses 96MB
[06:59] <efox> anyone have any good theme sites ?
[06:59] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, it took me a while to get it online too, so i wanna use it as an irc box till i max out the ram and use it as a music streaming radio of some sort.
[06:59] <NthDegree> ask krazykit for help, whenever he/she/it is here :p
[06:59] <Sivik> efox: what gui
[07:00] <krazykit> what about me?
[07:00] <protok0l> hey all
[07:00] <efox> gnome
[07:00] <Sivik> !themes
[07:00] <krazykit> edarague: gnome-look.org
[07:00] <dsas> efox: art.gnome.org
[07:00] <robert_> what would the package name for gd be?
[07:00] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, did you get x back
[07:00] <Cntryboy> i haven't rebooted yet
[07:00] <noiesmo> k
[07:00] <Cntryboy> if u can get radiohead attention he can tell u what he told me to do
[07:00] <Sivik> !tell efox about themes
[07:00] <edarague> thanks
[07:00] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, but that helps a lot ill see how that runs man thanx
[07:00] <Sivik> efox: read the pm from ubotu
[07:01] <efox> dsas:  thanks, ill give that one a try
[07:01] <efox> Sivik: lol, thanks
[07:01] <Cntryboy> radiohead wake uppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:01] <krazykit> NthDegree: and i'm a he, by the way :-P
[07:01] <Sivik> efox: yw
[07:01] <rupert> i'm having trouble modprobe-ing ndiswrapper. syslog says that 1.8 doesn't match driver version 1.7, and i have no idea what that means.
[07:01] <NthDegree> :P I always choose the safe option (he/she/it)
[07:01] <MrBrizzio> Sivik, you said Sir_Brizz :)
[07:01] <Sivik> MrBrizzio, sorry
[07:01] <krazykit> NthDegree: lol girls aren't on the internet >_>
[07:01] <Sivik> anyone here have e17?
[07:02] <krazykit> Sivik: yes...
[07:02] <robert_> wait, what does 'restricted' mean to apt-get?
[07:02] <Cntryboy> i wonder if he had me do that on purpose to get me to quit asking questions
[07:02] <Sivik> krazykit, how do i edit my xdm to get e17 to run when i'm loging in
[07:02] <NthDegree> krazykit, with channels like #ubuntu-women and #debian-women they are
[07:02] <Cntryboy> ive been working non stop configuring this hard stuff
[07:02] <Cntryboy> now its all for nothing
[07:02] <Sivik> Cntryboy, what is your problem now?
[07:02] <krazykit> NthDegree: i know, it's an internet joke ;-)
[07:02] <Cntryboy> get radiohead and he can tell u what he had me do
[07:03] <Cntryboy> so u all know what im talking about better
[07:03] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: From a clean install getting nvidia working is easy. You just install nvidia-glx(-legacy) and run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:03] <NthDegree> radiohead get your fat a$$ out of bed NOW!!!
[07:03] <Cntryboy> thats not all ive done amaranth
[07:03] <Sivik> why would anyone want to use glx with nvidia
[07:03] <Sivik> nvm
[07:03] <Sivik> i'm not reading right
[07:03] <protok0l> hello all
[07:03] <Cntryboy> most the commands i have wrote down is on desktop from clean install ill lose everything
[07:03] <protok0l> how can i reset my saved desktop sessions
[07:04] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: To get back to a clean state so you can do that run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:04] <protok0l> it seems to be stuck
[07:04] <radiohead> NthDegree: huh?
[07:04] <Sivik> krazykit, i installed e17, but i can't figure out how to get it from my login manager
[07:04] <Cntryboy> I thought ya'll said do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:04] <dsas> protok0l: System -> preferences -> sessions
[07:04] <krazykit> Sivik: you need to add a .desktop file.  lemme pastebin it for you
[07:04] <Sivik> thanks
[07:04] <NthDegree> Cntryboy has some complaining to do @ you radiohead
[07:04] <Sivik> Cntryboy, no
[07:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, sorta
[07:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, why are you trying to redo it anyways?
[07:05] <Sivik> Cntryboy, i though you had it fixed
[07:05] <Cntryboy> not yet I haven't
[07:05] <Cntryboy> im still in live cd
[07:05] <Cntryboy> radiohead why did you have me do what u did, u screwed up my X
[07:05] <radiohead> heh, I todl him to sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, but his conf was messed up, so he applied teh md5 to the conf file and restarted
[07:05] <Cntryboy> tell them so they know what you had me do
[07:06] <radiohead> Cntryboy: that's what I did and it worked fine
[07:06] <keleus> well, I asked in irc.gnome.org:#abiword but no response yet, so here goes:
[07:06] <Cntryboy> well after I restarted x it said something error something about gdm
[07:06] <Cntryboy> and I was left in prompt
[07:06] <krazykit> Sivik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15850
[07:06] <Cntryboy> or terminal rather
[07:06] <radiohead> sorry, i told you what worked for me
[07:06] <keleus> does anyone know how to set abiword's settings on font antialiasing? its using subpixel smoothing (undesirable in my case) and i would rather it use vanilla AA with full hinting.
[07:06] <Cntryboy> so to get back to x I type in this
[07:07] <radiohead> startx
[07:07] <krazykit> radiohead: WHAT?  you don't "apply" md5 files.
[07:07] <keleus> no other programs are misbehaving (all are honoring my XFCE settings it appears)
[07:07] <Cntryboy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:07] <Sivik> krazykit, i will try that, thanks
[07:07] <Cntryboy> right?
[07:07] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[07:07] <noiesmo> yes
[07:07] <radiohead> krazykit: no, the x config files .md5sum
[07:07] <Cntryboy> then to get my nvidia working again
[07:07] <Cntryboy> i type
[07:07] <krazykit> radiohead: if you edit the x config file, the md5 will no longer match.
[07:07] <radiohead> krazykit: yeah
[07:07] <radiohead> I know
[07:07] <radiohead> :-/
[07:07] <Cntryboy> install nvidia-glx
[07:07] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:08] <Cntryboy> radiohead it changed my card to ati radon
[07:08] <Cntryboy> im guessing thats why it won't let me start X
[07:08] <Cntryboy> brb
[07:09] <rupert> if i install ndiswrapper-utils from apt (1.8), why does ndiswrapper -v show utils version: 1.7? how can i fix this?
[07:09] <krazykit> IcemanV9: maybe they're missing a css file or something...
[07:10] <hatake_kakashi> is it possible to install ubuntu via grub booting the iso?
[07:11] <krazykit> hatake_kakashi: don't think so.
[07:12] <hatake_kakashi> krazykit: hmm :/ thanks, I don't happen to have a spare cd handy heh, though I have the images on another hard disk, I was thinking there might be a possibility, if possible, it would probably save me from having to get blank cds to do so
[07:12] <IcemanV9> krazykit: must be a new hire who just grad recently. *sigh*
[07:12] <LoneShadow> is there a graphics software called XGN/Compiz ?
[07:12] <krazykit> LoneShadow: nope.  it's xgl/compiz
[07:12] <LoneShadow> aah
[07:12] <LoneShadow> thanks :D
[07:12] <krazykit> hatake_kakashi: nah, better run out and get some CDs, or bum one off of somebody.
[07:12] <keleus> nobody has any help for my abiword issue? (i did search through their bugzilla with no results)
[07:13] <IcemanV9> does anyone got hotkeys working on hp ze5185 keyboard?? mine (tv-out, lock, help & mute) does not work.
[07:13] <keleus> so i think its a lack of knowledge on my part
[07:13] <hatake_kakashi> krazykit: heh bah, that's what I would have thought :<
[07:13] <hatake_kakashi> ahh well thanks for the input
[07:13] <keleus> IcemanV9, ive got an hp laptop and about 3/4 of the extra keys don't actually send keycodes through the normal channel
[07:14] <keleus> IcemanV9, read: proprietary keyboard interface i bet
[07:14] <krazykit> keleus and IcemanV9, if the keys get picked up by xev, you can give them keysyms and assign actions to them
[07:14] <CaptainMorgan> is there any bugs with Firefox and Kde? I keep trying to install macromedia flash player and it always says sucessful install.. yet it alerts me right away that it's not installed.. essentially it's playing a game with me...
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> revolving
[07:15] <IcemanV9> keleus: i've tried xev, other methods that forum suggested - nothing worked! :/
[07:15] <keleus> krazykit, thanks, thats a handy program, but again about 3/4 of my buttons dont send anything that the system appears to "see"
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> ever since the large update a few days ago, which included kernel updates, grub shows four ubuntu startup options (two duplicate sets of two)...what would i need to do to get rid of the second set?
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> IcemanV9: xmodmap -pke and look for corresponding makps
[07:16] <hatake_kakashi> Geoffrey2: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> Geoffrey2: mind does too.. wtf?
[07:16] <Sivik> krazykit, ok, i added that to the /usr/share/xsessions folder, but it didn't come up as an option
[07:16] <krazykit> keleus: doesn't pick it up at all?  i recall seeing some perl script that digs in deep to get some keys working, lemme find it
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> which set DO you get rid of?
[07:16] <keleus> IcemanV9, you could always ask support.hp.com - they've been very helpful for me before (just ask them if details are available, maybe say you want to write a program for something that would need the keys)
[07:16] <wshan> when I try to install ubuntu I get errors on the cd..but I ran md5sum and it checked out...is it just not burning correctly?
[07:16] <krazykit> Sivik: well, i use gdm, maybe xdm sticks them elsewhere?
[07:16] <wshan> it is the alternate iso
[07:17] <LoneShadow> does XGL/Compiz install on breezy ?
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> hatake_kakashi: does it matter which to get riid of?
[07:17] <[nige] > how do I install a gpg key for apt-get?
[07:17] <IcemanV9> keleus: really? they're helpful? interesting. ok.
[07:17] <Sivik> krazykit, i'm actually using wdm
[07:17] <Geoffrey2> all I could figure is that is was offering a way to go back to the earlier kernel if something significant broke with the update....
[07:17] <hatake_kakashi> CaptainMorgan: yes, unless if you are completely sure that you know which ones you don't need, because if you comment them out, it would not appear on the list the next time you boot, or any other time until you set it back to where it was
[07:17] <krazykit> keleus and IcemanV9, perhaps this would be worth checking out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys#Getting_bizzare_keyboards_working
[07:18] <keleus> IcemanV9, well, i moaned about not having the latest bios flash available on the windows flasher (only the floppy boot one.... on a laptop with no floppy drive!) and they had it up within a week
[07:18] <krazykit> Sivik: then... i dunno.  check the wdm documentation oh how to add a new entry.
[07:18] <Sivik> ok
[07:18] <IcemanV9> CaptainMorgan: xmodmap; thanks.
[07:18] <hatake_kakashi> Geoffrey2: generally, kernel updates results in having 2 more extra entries into the bootloader, it is incase soemthing goes wrong with the new kernel, etc
[07:18] <lonegeek> anybody else have problems encoding videos with pcm audio in avidemux2?
[07:18] <sam__> heheh
[07:19] <IcemanV9> keleus: they haven't update bios flash in 2.5+ yrs!
[07:19] <sam__> compiz rox 8)
[07:19] <foogle> hello all     how do I set the current time from the command line?
[07:19] <sam__> foogle: look at date -s
[07:19] <foogle> ahh yes
[07:19] <CaptainMorgan> hatake_kakashi: which is the latest kernel?
[07:19] <CaptainMorgan> !kernel
[07:19] <IcemanV9> krazykit: checking the site atm
[07:20] <sam__> it takes a date format
[07:20] <Cntryboy> okay im back in X, now how can I reconfigure my nvidia?
[07:20] <Cntryboy> thx btw to all who got me back to X
[07:20] <CaptainMorgan> 2.6.15-25?
[07:20] <Sivik> krazykit, how do i make it use the gdm
[07:20] <sam__> foogle: but normally the best way is to use rdated or ntpdate!
[07:20] <|_ocke> sudo glx-config enable
[07:20] <krazykit> Sivik: dunno, sorry.
[07:20] <IcemanV9> 2.6.15-25-686
[07:20] <Cntryboy> when I go to play UT now it says, cd@cd-desktop:~/ut$ ./ut
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Signal: SIGIOT [iot trap] 
[07:20] <Cntryboy> Aborting.
[07:20] <Fracture> can I configure where the gnome cd writer writes the image file it creates ?
[07:20] <hatake_kakashi> CaptainMorgan: dunno, I haven't updated mine in awhile, I'm going for full reinstall soon
[07:20] <keleus> krazykit, thanks. ill check that out later though (dont have the energy for it now. (late)
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know what the latest kernel? 2.6.15-25 or 2.6.15-23?
[07:21] <krazykit> anyway, i'm off to bed.
[07:21] <Sivik> CaptainMorgan, 25
[07:21] <hatake_kakashi> the first one CaptainMorgan
[07:21] <keleus> IcemanV9, well, my laptop is a 2003/4 model i think (ze5740us)
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[07:21] <keleus> IcemanV9, and i DID need the flash
[07:21] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[07:21] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, please give me output of uname -r
[07:22] <keleus> Cntryboy, make sure glx is on the list of modules to load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:22] <Cntryboy> 2.6.15-23-386
[07:22] <Cntryboy> it was working fine
[07:22] <Sivik> how do i get a newer kernel via sudo apt-get
[07:22] <Cntryboy> but not sure if u seen what my problem was
[07:23] <SurfnKid> back to windows bah
[07:23] <keleus> Sivik, heh, i compile them myself :)
[07:23] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok type this it will install need stuff for nvidia if you have it it wont install anything sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:23] <Sivik> keleus, thats not fun
[07:23] <Sivik> krazykat: how do i get the newer kernel via apt-get
[07:23] <Cntryboy> type this whole line?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:23] <noiesmo> yep
[07:23] <Sivik> Cntryboy, yes
[07:23] <keleus> Sivik, not if you know how to do it, and exactly what is in your machine. Definatly speeds things up in my case (and frees up some memory too :) )
[07:23] <Cntryboy> ok
[07:24] <IcemanV9> keleus: i just checked hp support site for flash .. they haven't done anything for 4 yrs. :/
[07:24] <keleus> Cntryboy, what processor you have?
[07:24] <Sivik> kelsus: but when i try to do it, it screws up
[07:24] <witless> is it possible to access a samba share on a private network over an ssh connection to a machine on that network?
[07:24] <Cntryboy> it's redownloading
[07:24] <keleus> IcemanV9, hold on a second...
[07:24] <Samus_Aran> does Ubuntu use /etc/security/limits.conf ?  I put my settings in there, but there seems to be no PAM system in place.  my user has "unlimited" when running "ulimit"
[07:24] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok let me know when done
[07:24] <Cntryboy> so does that mean when radiohead had me do that, it deleted my nvidia drivers?
[07:24] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, no comment
[07:25] <P229> anyone use wifi-radar? what goes in for "WAP Driver"?
[07:25] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[07:25] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, they may have been updated
[07:25] <Samus_Aran> I am using my custom limits.conf config that I built on my previous distro, but it seems that it is being ignored altogether
[07:25] <Cntryboy> everything was working fine
[07:25] <keleus> Sivik, well, you need "binutils" and "build-essential" - then you need to install the dev library of ncurses to use "make menuconfig" - its not very forthright about needing that stuff
[07:25] <Cntryboy> i lost X, got it back
[07:25] <Cntryboy> why is my nvidia drivers gone?
[07:26] <Sivik> kelsus: i know how to do it, but whenever i try to compile it, it screws up
[07:26] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, is it finished downloading etc
[07:26] <Cntryboy> i have dialup
[07:26] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, when it is type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:26] <Cntryboy> takes me awhile
[07:26] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok
[07:26] <Cntryboy> im just wanting to know why it deleted my nvidia drivers
[07:26] <Cntryboy> k
[07:27] <keleus> IcemanV9, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=softwareCategory&os=228&product=420315&dest_page=softwareCategory&softwareitem=ob-31521-1
[07:27] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, I dont think it would have
[07:27] <rohan> in the gaim on dapper, the flashing taskbar entry in a message window doesnt stop flashing until and unless i enter something in it .. isnt it bloody irritating ?!
[07:27] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, when did you install nvidia-glx last
[07:27] <Cntryboy> well its downloading isn't it
[07:27] <keleus> IcemanV9, but for some reason the winflash of the bios version i have isn't there! (and i know i used winflash, as i have no floppy drive)
[07:27] <Cntryboy> 3 days ago
[07:27] <keleus> they might have tooken it down for some reason?
[07:27] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, I ran an update last night and it download mine again
[07:27] <Cntryboy> but like I said someone had me do some funky command, I lost X, had to get X back, and then noticed nvidia drivers are gone as u can see its redownloading them
[07:28] <Samus_Aran> keleus: you can always drop the DOS diskette for the BIOS flash utility onto a CD or DVD, using el torito
[07:28] <Samus_Aran> keleus: they behave exactly the same as a boot diskette
[07:28] <Cntryboy> dunno, all I know is it was working 30 min ago
[07:28] <keleus> Samus_Aran, well, i was a windows freak then...
[07:28] <Cntryboy> I was playing UT
[07:28] <Cntryboy> 3d accerl.
[07:28] <Cntryboy> accelerator
[07:28] <kosova> I am currently on  an intel4 with hyperthreading. should I use the smp686 kernel
[07:28] <rohan> has there been some gaim update which solves this irritatng bug ?
[07:28] <keleus> Cntryboy, you wern't playing UT as root were you? :)
[07:28] <Draconicus> XFCE would be nice right about now, but it's broken upon installation.
[07:29] <Cntryboy> oh lord
[07:29] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, well either way the drives will be the latest whats your nvidia card
[07:29] <Cntryboy> NO
[07:29] <Cntryboy> everything was workign fine
[07:29] <Cntryboy> until radiohead had me do a command to lose X
[07:29] <Cntryboy> wasn't nothing I did
[07:29] <Cntryboy> I was just following a command
[07:29] <rohan> also, after each run of the dapepr live cd, my system time is ALWAYS f*cked up, which is still more irritating .. why does ubuntu f*ck up my system time /
[07:29] <keleus> what did he have you do?
[07:29] <rupert> ndiswrapper problem: i have to remove bcm43xx in order to get ndiswrapper to function, how do i go about rm'ing it?
[07:29] <Cntryboy> I can't rememeber
[07:29] <keleus> rohan, set your system clock to UTC and be done with it :)
[07:29] <butler> how to open this file :- avg71flm-r28-a0757.i386.rpm
[07:29] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, do lspci it will be there
[07:30] <Sivik> rupert: why aren't u trying to use the bcm43xx drivers?
[07:30] <Cntryboy> I had problems with resolution with in ut he wanted me to md5sum something
[07:30] <P229> rohan: I think ubuntu sets the system clock to GMT
[07:30] <keleus> rohan, that hapens when your clock is set to localtime and a liveCD expects it as UTC
[07:30] <Cntryboy> what will be there?
[07:30] <Draconicus> rohan: Ubuntu has never been good with clocks. Go to your time and date adjustments, then install NTP by trying to enable updating from the server... etc..
[07:30] <rohan> keleus: i dont know how to :) and whether or not my bios supports it .. and, i have windows iinstalled too :S
[07:30] <Sivik> rohan: it may have an issue with your bios time
[07:30] <P229> ...or UTC
[07:30] <Draconicus> Just kidding.
[07:30] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, the type of video card
[07:30] <rohan> Draconicus, P229 : thanks ! :)
[07:30] <Draconicus> Ubuntu is great with clocks. :P
[07:30] <rupert> Sivik, Im on amd64
[07:30] <Samus_Aran> rohan: use UTC in the BIOS, set your timezone in the O/S
[07:30] <Cntryboy> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pr o]  (rev a3)
[07:30] <keleus> rohan, set your time to GMT+0 and set windows to the timezone that the prime meridian is on./
[07:30] <Cntryboy> thats all it says for that command about vidieo
[07:31] <keleus> rohan, heh
[07:31] <Sivik> rupert: ok
[07:31] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, ok thats fine
[07:31] <D_dog> I need to run this command at every start up "xgamme -gamme 1.5" where would i put that at please
[07:31] <Samus_Aran> rohan: and install NTP, it is great for maintaining your clock at all times (even without a net connection, it learns how much your internal clock drifts by)
[07:31] <P229> so no takers for that "WAP Driver" in wifi-radar question?
[07:31] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, has that dialup of yours finished yet
[07:31] <IcemanV9> keleus: well. at least, you got something. i am stuck with this box since they haven't done anything past 4 yrs. dangit. time to get sledgehammer out.
[07:31] <rupert> Sivik, so how do i disable bcm43xx?
[07:31] <rohan> oh, ok
[07:31] <keleus> rohan, its a windows stupidity at fault, not your Ubuntu CD. the rest of the world runs their clocks at UTC and the software translates to your timezone. In the microsoft world, the bios runs at localtime
[07:31] <Cntryboy> no 5m left
[07:31] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, k
[07:31] <Sivik> rupert: is your bcm43xx drivers not working?  what kernel?
[07:32] <keleus> rohan, the UTC is better, as networking gear can stay synchronized that way
[07:32] <Sivik> rupert: did you install the new firmware
[07:32] <keleus> IcemanV9, or a soldering iron :)
[07:32] <rohan> keleus: true, but my dad uses xp (sad) so i need to have the proper time zone :S
[07:32] <Sivik> rupert: join me in #bcm-users
[07:32] <keleus> i wish someone would patch windows! at least give us the option MS!!!
[07:32] <Cntryboy> any time xorg.conf is changed to default and something to do with md5 or md5 sum and then restart X will that delete nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <Cntryboy> it was something like that
[07:33] <Cntryboy> what he had me do, i just forgot commands
[07:33] <IcemanV9> rohan: sudo ntpdate <closest time server> e.g. sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov
[07:33] <keleus> Cntryboy, no, but it will set the driver to vga instead of nvidia
[07:33] <Cntryboy> oh shit
[07:33] <Cntryboy> sorry about the cuss
[07:33] <keleus> Cntryboy, and remove any other settings the nvidia script made to your xorg.conf
[07:34] <Cntryboy> my card is legacy
[07:34] <Cntryboy> are u having me download nvidia-glx?
[07:34] <Cntryboy> and not legacy
[07:34] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:34] <keleus> doesnt matter
[07:34] <keleus> i had a geforce2 MX
[07:34] <Cntryboy> so do I have to download nvidia again keleus?
[07:34] <Lorri> What's a good fixed font
[07:34] <keleus> and the nvidia-glx worked fine
[07:34] <rohan> IcemanV9: ubuntu gui for the same is nice ;)
[07:34] <rohan> so the only annoying problem left is gaim :S
[07:34] <keleus> Cntryboy, yea. but i would save it somewhere (or use the installer direct from nvidia and not from the repositories)
[07:34] <Cntryboy> so should I cancel this download and just type sudo apt-install get nvidia-glx-legacy?
[07:35] <keleus> no
[07:35] <keleus> nvidia legacy is for the TNTs i believe
[07:35] <hatake_kakashi> keleus:
[07:35] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: no
[07:35] <Cntryboy> I had legacy install at first
[07:35] <Sivik> Cntryboy, doing use the get
[07:35] <Cntryboy> i have an old geforce 2 gts pro
[07:35] <rohan> !nvidia
[07:35] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:35] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, i had a geforce2 MX. thats LESS than the GTS Pro he has
[07:35] <Cntryboy> im there rohan
[07:35] <keleus> and i used to play Americas Army with it
[07:35] <Cntryboy> thats why im asking
[07:36] <keleus> the normal drivers WORKED
[07:36] <Cntryboy> i have a legacy card
[07:36] <Cntryboy> im downloading glx i think
[07:36] <keleus> :/
[07:36] <Cntryboy> no one listens to me
[07:36] <keleus> what do you mean by legacy?
[07:36] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: Geforce2 MX/MX 400 requires legacy :p
[07:36] <Cntryboy> lol
[07:36] <efox> i set up linux with a 10GB allocation from my 60GB harddrive. If i want to add more space to it, i can have the ability to correct..i mean..i wont have to reinstall everything. I can mount a new partition for my /root and such ?
[07:36] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, then explain how it used to work?
[07:36] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, less than 8 months ago? (at which point i lost the machien for various reasons)
[07:36] <Cntryboy> noisemo is having me do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:36] <disinterested_pe> any one know how to get a webcam working?
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: I tried the normal glx and it failed to boot x properly, when I switched to legacy it worked
[07:37] <Cntryboy> but if I need legacy drivers will this screw me up?
[07:37] <witless> efox: yes
[07:37] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, did nvidia fork the drivers?
[07:37] <sam1001> yo
[07:37] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, you never said what card you had im no mind reader i told you how to find it dam you
[07:37] <sam1001> sup
[07:37] <Cntryboy> i didn't say u were
[07:37] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: beats me, it was when I had to get the propriatory drivers, I had to make sure that I get the right one or x goes ballistic
[07:37] <Cntryboy> all im asking is should I quit this dl?
[07:37] <Cntryboy> well too late
[07:38] <keleus> noiesmo, 01:30:51 <Cntryboy> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pr o]  (rev a3)
[07:38] <Cntryboy> its done and it said its removing my legacy
[07:38] <Sivik> i'm looking for someone that uses e17
[07:38] <witless> efox: why would you need a big /root partition?  you're not using root as your working account are you?  :-)
[07:38] <noiesmo> keleus, this was after i gave him command i told him how to get hte info
[07:38] <keleus> Cntryboy, if it fails, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver statement to "nv" and it will at least boot
[07:38] <sam1001> emachine?
[07:38] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: the nvidia site has a list of which cards needs to get legacy drivers
[07:38] <IcemanV9> disinterested_pe: apt-cache search webcam will give you plenty to choose :)
[07:38] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, they probably forked it...
[07:39] <keleus> do they have a legacy driver pack for windows now? when i was using them all the GeForceFXs were the same download as my GeForce2
[07:39] <Cntryboy> so now type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:39] <Cntryboy> ?
[07:39] <keleus> Cntryboy, no, you need legacty
[07:39] <Cntryboy> and if it fails go and change it to nv
[07:39] <Cntryboy> i know I do
[07:39] <n30n> how do i create a conpressed folder
[07:39] <Cntryboy> but its already downloaded
[07:39] <keleus> things have apparently changed since i last used it :/
[07:39] <Cntryboy> okay how do I delete what was just unpacked?
[07:39] <Cntryboy> so I can download legacy
[07:39] <keleus> n30n, hey! whats up
[07:39] <xps> i must say, i love kubuntu now that i've converted over =)
[07:39] <keleus> xps, xubuntu here
[07:39] <Sivik> xps: good for you
[07:40] <Samus_Aran> nvidia-legacy is just an older version, if you don't like the current one, or if it is buggy.  they only dropped support for tnt cards with the current release
[07:40] <keleus> Sivik, was that needed?
[07:40] <witless> me no likee kde
[07:40] <Samus_Aran> but some people have a more stable time with the older driver
[07:40] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[07:40] <hatake_kakashi> keleus: beats me, when I grabbed the drivers, I saw for linux, there was two parts on nvidia, one is the legacy and the other, not
[07:40] <keleus> witless, i love KDE but this system is too lightweight for it
[07:40] <Sivik> keleus: i just said good for you, didn't mean for it to be mean or anything
[07:40] <Cntryboy> keleus how do I delete what was just downloaded?
[07:40] <n30n> keleus whats goin on.
[07:40] <keleus> hatake_kakashi, ah! thats definatly new to me
[07:40] <Cntryboy> so I can apt for legacy
[07:40] <keleus> Cntryboy, "rm filename"
[07:40] <xps> i'm a linux newbie. i haven't tried anything but kde... yet so far, i like it
[07:40] <n30n> keelus: go check out the update at neonbox
[07:40] <Cntryboy> not sure the file name
[07:41] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:41] <keleus> xps, the most configurable. gnome has almost no options (waay to "user friendly")
[07:41] <Cntryboy> that was command I put in
[07:41] <disinterested_pe> thanks iceman
[07:41] <keleus> xps, and XFCE (what xubuntu uses) is very lightweight
[07:41] <noiesmo> aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:41] <keleus> n30n, you get my messages?
[07:41] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: After that run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:41] <Cntryboy> amaranth I have a legacy card though
[07:41] <n30n>  keleus: yes. good work. your a saint
[07:41] <keleus> thanks :)
[07:41] <Cntryboy> I need to delete what was just downloaded
[07:41] <xps> keleus: i hear you. i have a pretty recent machine which can handle the gui... i figured i'd like a distro that will allow me to explore once i start getting the hang of things
[07:41] <Cntryboy> and apt for legacy drivers
[07:41] <Draconicus> I feel like I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic. Give the small talk about WMs a break and give me a little attention? Just a little?
[07:42] <keleus> n30n, i know how to remove all those messages to - apparently the board is in debug mode
[07:42] <Sivik> Draconicus, whatca need
[07:42] <Draconicus> Sivik: Scroll up a little.
[07:42] <mikedep333> hey, on both my systems that dual-boot between ubuntu and winXP, whenever I chose windows from grub, it automatically boots to windows XP, I think it makes it the active partition. How do I boot to windows while preserving grub?
[07:42] <Cntryboy> so how can I delete what was just downloaded for the glx?
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> different users, different tastes :P
[07:42] <Sivik> Draconicus, not sure
[07:42] <n30n> keleus: everything you did was for the best
[07:42] <Samus_Aran> so does anyone have any clue how to make an Ubuntu 6.06 system use /etc/security/limits.conf ?
[07:43] <witless> Cntryboy: how were you downloading it?
[07:43] <Cntryboy> i typed in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-386 linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:43] <n30n> keleus: it WAS in debug
[07:43] <Cntryboy> but I noticed after it downloaded I have a legacy card
[07:43] <keleus> n30n, ah, i see :)
[07:43] <n30n> keleus: i left it in debug over night by accident
[07:43] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, if you just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy like you so badly want to it will remove the previous one
[07:43] <keleus> n30n, first time with mod status too... im learning as I go :)
[07:43] <n30n> Keleus: my power went out when i was debugging
[07:43] <redblades> Hi, I'm having trouble ripping mp3's. playing avi's (with sound).
[07:43] <Draconicus> mikedep333: Whoa.. what? Are you trying to boot Linux and Windows at the same time or something?
[07:43] <Cntryboy> so I need to get rid of that so I can apt-get install the legacy
[07:43] <redblades> Could somebody help?
[07:43] <keleus> n30n, how do you like my downloads?
[07:43] <noiesmo> apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[07:43] <n30n> keleus: alot. your a admin now
[07:43] <efox> witless: yes..i am :(
[07:43] <Cntryboy> okay thx noiesmo thats all I needed to know
[07:43] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[07:43] <witless> efox: why??
[07:43] <mikedep333> Draconicus: Yes, I would like to have a menu to chose between them every time I boot up.
[07:44] <n30n> keleus: how do i move files to a copressed document
[07:44] <mikedep333> like mandriva or suse does
[07:44] <keleus> n30n, and a quick question: can i use sftp rather than vanilla ftp? i use wireless, and some silly people could sniff the credentials of normal FTP
[07:44] <keleus> n30n, depends on what format you want...
[07:44] <keleus> n30n, tar.bz2?
[07:44] <n30n> keleus: if you want/
[07:44] <Draconicus> mikedep333: You can't boot both at the same time. It's not possible.
[07:44] <efox> witless: cuz i wasnt too sure on what should be what...i set 128mb for boot (which is think is crazy high) 700mb for swap and the rest root
[07:44] <n30n> keleus: thats fine
[07:44] <disinterested_pe> this friggin webcam is for an xp machine does that mean i cant get it to work on linux?
[07:44] <efox> would you have a better partitioning scheme ?
[07:44] <mikedep333> draconicus: I'm not talking about running both OSes at the same time.
[07:44] <Samus_Aran> disinterested_pe: some are supported, some are not
[07:45] <mikedep333> I'm talking about having a boot menu every time I boot up.
[07:45] <robert_> what would the package name for gd be?
[07:45] <hatake_kakashi> disinterested_pe: not really, it really depends on brand, etc
[07:45] <keleus> n30n, not sure how to use teh GUI ones (when i make something it always has the full path
[07:45] <witless> efox: oh, you mean root as in / , not root as in root-user
[07:45] <mikedep333> right now it seems to be making the windows partition active, so I never have that choice
[07:45] <efox> witless: yes  '/'
[07:45] <disinterested_pe> its a ge easy cam
[07:45] <witless> efox: ok, nevermind  :-)
[07:45] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy
[07:45] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:45] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:45] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-legacy
[07:45] <Draconicus> disinterested_pe: Not at all. Most cams are supported under the spca5xx driver, I've found. Yours probably is. There's a chance it might not be. Nothing is ever designed for any OS. Just the software.
[07:45] <efox> was my partitioning correct then ?
[07:45] <paxl> Can somone help me, Ubuntu latest version support Xgl ?
[07:45] <Cntryboy> god don't tell me I have to go through that repos crap again
[07:45] <n30n> keleus: get on aim?
[07:45] <keleus> n30n, tar can do .tar .tar.gz and .tar.bz2
[07:45] <keleus> sure
[07:46] <witless> efox: if you start running out of space, and you have more partitions, you can move stuff from e.g. /home to the new partition and then mount the new partition at the /home location
[07:46] <disinterested_pe> this one uses the ov 511 driver
[07:46] <paxl> keleus: is is easy to install as apt-get install xgl and so on ?
[07:46] <robert_> can I search for .deb packages?
[07:46] <hatake_kakashi> tar is just tape archive, typically uncompressed. tar.gz is tar that has been gzipped and bz2 is bzipped
[07:47] <Cntryboy> noiesmo did u see the error I got for sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy?
[07:47] <disinterested_pe> but i installed it from synaptic and nothing
[07:47] <Draconicus> robert_: Check out Synaptic Package Manager. :)
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: from where?
[07:47] <Cntryboy> does that mean I have to go through repos again?
[07:47] <witless> robert_: you mean aside from apt-cache search?
[07:47] <Cntryboy> man im tired
[07:47] <robert_> hatake_kakashi: from apt
[07:47] <Draconicus> Cntryboy: Yeah... You've been here for a good portion of the day, haven't you?
[07:47] <witless> Cntryboy: i believe it's nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:47] <robert_> witless: can apt-cache search online repos?
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: from repo? read what witless said or Draconicus
[07:47] <efox> witless: cool...well i have 6.5gb now, and i may want more in the comin weeks..
[07:47] <Cntryboy> I get this error though
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy
[07:48] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[07:48] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:48] <Cntryboy> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-legacy
[07:48] <robert_> ah ko
[07:48] <robert_> ok*
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: no its only whats cached
[07:48] <Cntryboy> yes witless, because I listen to ppl who give me wrong info lol
[07:48] <Sivik> Cntryboy, do a apt-cache search nvidia-legacy to determine the correct name for it
[07:48] <witless> robert_: yes -  apt-cache search <whatever>
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cause more problems, then I have to redo things to get back to where I was at
[07:48] <efox> what do i change in the grub menu.lst so that xp would be the primary OS ?
[07:48] <IcemanV9> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source
[07:48] <Draconicus> robert_: Would you like to know how to get the most out of the repositories?
[07:48] <Sivik> efox: you but default
[07:48] <Draconicus> robert_: It will require a PM.
[07:48] <witless> Cntryboy: i believe there is a web page on the wiki for getting nvidia to work on 6.06
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$ apt-cache search nvidia-legacy
[07:48] <Cntryboy> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module source
[07:48] <robert_> Draconicus: indeed
[07:48] <hatake_kakashi> robert_: when you do apt-get update, it gets the lists of files, and versions, adds them to the cache so you can browse quicker
[07:48] <IcemanV9> apt-cache search is your best friend
[07:49] <Cntryboy> yes but I dont understand it
[07:49] <robert_> ah ok
[07:49] <Sivik> Cntryboy, don't understand what part of it
[07:49] <Cntryboy> i did my repos from command term.
[07:49] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, well I see it but dont know if i want to help you anymore as i suggestedwhat to do and then you go and want to do something else if you just did what i suggested and it didnt work you would have been no worse off
[07:49] <paxl> Where can I get the package list of Ubuntu 6.06 TLS ?
[07:49] <Sivik> paxl: did you check the ubuntu website?
[07:49] <witless> efox: there is a setting in menu.lst called "default"  - set that to the OS you want to boot (first in list is 0, then 1, then 2, etc)
[07:49] <Cntryboy> noiesmo, but someone msg me and said if I have legacy ill lose X again
[07:49] <Cntryboy> if I do what u said
[07:49] <redblades> Hello???????
[07:49] <paxl> Sivik: do you have any other question like this.. Yeah.
[07:50] <Cntryboy> i just figured since my card needs legacy drivers thats what I needed
[07:50] <redblades> Did anyone see what i said?
[07:50] <Cntryboy> if what u said will work and work fine ill do it
[07:50] <Sivik> paxl: no, but thats the first place i would check if i couldn't find it, or try googling ubuntu dapper program list
[07:50] <Cntryboy> im not tring to be mean by no means, im just tired, fustrated with linux
[07:50] <Ademan> anyone here know a possible reason why i can't connect to my ftp server when i've set it up so that ports 20 and 21 are forwarded (through my router) to my server, as well as 44000 - 44128, and vsftpd has that range set as the pasv_min and pasv_max ports
[07:50] <IcemanV9> redblades: did you said something?? ;)
[07:50] <Cntryboy> noiesmo can I msg u please
[07:50] <Cntryboy> scroll here confuses me
[07:51] <paxl> Sivik: my question is I'm searching if installing it over my current debian would make me possible to get Xgl simply...
[07:51] <noiesmo> yes
[07:51] <Sivik> paxl: check www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:51] <Sivik> paxl: what kind of card?
[07:51] <hatake_kakashi> !nvidia
[07:51] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:51] <redblades> IcemanV9: yeah, I'm having issues with playing mp3s/avis
[07:51] <witless> Cntryboy: have you looked at this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:51] <polpak> !tell redblades about restricted
[07:51] <Cntryboy> yes witless
[07:51] <paxl> Sivik: Radeon M9, Xgl works with the Opensource driver [ I tried it into Kororaa and it works like a charm ] 
[07:52] <Sivik> paxl: not sure, i don't have ati, cause i don't like ati
[07:53] <Sivik> paxl: sorry i can't help more
[07:53] <protocol2> how can I see if my video drivers are working properly?
[07:53] <paxl> Sivik: It's on a laptop computer.. but if the Xgl package is in the tree I think I"ll try it.
[07:53] <efox> witless: i dont see that 'default' option
[07:53] <Lorri> What's a good fixed font
[07:53] <Lorri> fixed width*
[07:53] <witless> efox: what option?
[07:53] <Sivik> paxl: try googling it
[07:53] <witless> efox: oh right
[07:53] <witless> wait
[07:53] <paxl> can I install other window manager than gnome on Ubunut ?
[07:53] <efox> witless:  efox: there is a setting in menu.lst called "default"
[07:53] <polpak> protocol2: if you want to know if you have hardware accelleration you can type glxinfo | grep direct
[07:53] <polpak> paxl: yes
[07:54] <witless> efox: yes, there is - in my copy of menu.lst, it's the first option.
[07:54] <witless> mine says "default    0"
[07:54] <rob138> i just uninstalled vmware server, but from the looks of my harddrive space, it left my virtual machines, where do i go to remove these files?
[07:54] <witless> rob138: i think there is a .vmware directory in your home drive
[07:54] <efox> witless: oh i c it now...   default num
[07:55] <rob138> witless, there is but, it's only preferences in there
[07:55] <protocol2> polpak, there no direct rendering
[07:55] <protocol2> you know how I can go about fixing that.....easyubuntu maybe?
[07:55] <Geoffrey2> oh, in the menu.lst file, a # comments things out?  or do I need a ##?
[07:55] <polpak> protocol2: what video card do you have?
[07:55] <efox> witless: so if i have 4 entries in my grub, and i want my last entry (windows xp) to be the primary, i set that num to..3 or 4 ?
[07:55] <witless> efox: 3
[07:55] <mikedep333> I figured out my problem, makeactive was of course, making the windows partition active, bypassing grub in the future
[07:55] <efox> sweet !
[07:56] <polpak> Geoffrey2: one # is sufficient
[07:56] <protocol2> its an nvidia tnt2
[07:56] <witless> efox: give it a shot
[07:56] <efox> im about too
[07:56] <hyphenated> efox: I moved the windows XP entry to be above the automagically generated list, so it's always at the same place
[07:56] <polpak> protocol2: ah.. well then you can only use the open source drivers I think
[07:56] <protocol2> so theres no possible way I can get acceleration
[07:56] <protocol2> ?
[07:56] <witless> rob138: is there a vmware directory (without leading dot)?
[07:56] <Sivik> protocol2, what kind of card?
[07:57] <rob138> witless, nope, but i think i found them in /var/lib/vmware
[07:57] <polpak> Sivik: it's a tnt 2
[07:57] <witless> ok
[07:57] <protocol2> nvidia tnt2 I trhink
[07:57] <protocol2> think*
[07:57] <Sivik> protocol2, did you try searching the ubuntu forums?
[07:57] <witless> i put mine on their own partition, so i don't recall where the default is.
[07:58] <rob138> witless, problem solved, + 20 gigs of space back :)
[07:58] <witless> cool
[07:58] <rohan> !md5sum
[07:58] <ubotu> md5sum is, like, totally, to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:59] <rohan> grrr grr .. can someone please paste the dappe drake 6.06 gnome desktop cd md5sum ? :)
[07:59] <spikeb> yeah let me see if i can find it
[07:59] <rohan> thanks a lot, spikeb
[07:59] <hatake_kakashi> rohan: which one?
[08:00] <hatake_kakashi> b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e *ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[08:00] <rohan> no, the desktop cd please :)
[08:01] <polpak> protocol2: follow the wiki  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  Your card is on the legacy list, so you should be able to install the legacy driver
[08:01] <hatake_kakashi> e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:01] <witless> e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:01] <spikeb> i can't find it.
[08:01] <rohan> thanks a lot, hatake_kakashi
[08:01] <vic> hello, I cant extract anything from an archive
[08:01] <rohan> i have a nice burn in that case :))
[08:01] <polpak> vic: what kind of archive?
[08:02] <vic> .tar.gz
[08:02] <afflux> morgen gemeinde...
[08:02] <vic> its for open office
[08:02] <witless> tar -zxvf <filename>
[08:02] <vic> thanks
[08:02] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[08:02] <hatake_kakashi> rohan: np
[08:03] <ubuntu> damn this pisses me off,
[08:03] <witless> could you be more specific?
[08:03] <ompaul> ubuntu please take it easy with the language we are aiming at a G rating cheers
[08:03] <rohan> ompaul: :D
[08:03] <rohan> ubuntu: you were the first ubuntu to register the nick name ubuntu ?
[08:04] <witless> darn this really burns my biscuits!
[08:04] <ubuntu> yes
[08:04] <BrunoTorres> hi everybody
[08:05] <witless> hello
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> I just downloaded and burned an ubuntu desktop i386 iso, and it seems to be a live cs...is it?
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> *live cd
[08:05] <witless> yes, but you can install off it too
[08:05] <hatake_kakashi> BrunoTorres: yes
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> how?
[08:05] <witless> there's an icon on the livecd desktop
[08:05] <polpak> BrunoTorres: there should be an install icon on the desktop
[08:05] <BrunoTorres> isn't there the good old installation process?
[08:05] <polpak> BrunoTorres: that's the alternate install cd
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> oh, damn
[08:06] <BrunoTorres> hehe
[08:06] <polpak> BrunoTorres: which you may want to use (particuarly if you're going to be editing your partitions, as the partition editor on the live CD kept locking up on me)
[08:07] <noodz> polpak: the live-cd uses gparted .1 which is known to have many bugs, most of which have to do with ntfs handling
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> i used to use debian, 1 year ago or more
[08:07] <noodz> .2 is much better
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> and I just don't buy this live cd thing..
[08:07] <polpak> noodz: I don't have any ntfs partitions.. all linux ext3 partitions on here
[08:07] <noodz> hm, well i dont know why then ;-)
[08:07] <BrunoTorres> I don't understand why the simplified things are so difficult to me, always
[08:07] <polpak> BrunoTorres: it's a good idea in principle.. would be nice if it worked better though
[08:08] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the screensaver on the live cd would also lock up on me a lot
[08:08] <redblades> Hi, what is the default sources.list for dapper?
[08:08] <polpak> BrunoTorres: as did the screensaver once I got dapper installed
[08:08] <BrunoTorres> so, live cd is really bad?
[08:08] <noodz> BrunoTorres, you're making a big deal about it... if you click on the install icon, it will open the OS installation program and you will be on your way.  not everything has to be difficult just because its linux
[08:08] <polpak> !repositories
[08:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:08] <redblades> If anyone knows, I would greatly appreciate it
[08:09] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, did it work
[08:09] <redblades> polpak:
[08:09] <Cntryboy> no i lost X
[08:09] <Cntryboy> again
[08:09] <redblades> THANKYOU
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> noodz: yeah, i agree...but the difficult things must keep available, methinks
[08:09] <polpak> BrunoTorres: well I had a bad experience with it.. but yours may be different
[08:09] <Cntryboy> had to type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <witless> and that didn't bring back X?
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> well, so, I can install using the live cd...i'll give it a try
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> just a last question
[08:09] <BrunoTorres> may I have a root user using it?
[08:10] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, sorry about that
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> or i'll have to sudo everything?
[08:10] <Cntryboy> np
[08:10] <mooseman447> hey
[08:10] <Cntryboy> go to pm noiesmo
[08:10] <witless> you can have a root user
[08:10] <noodz> it defaults to sudo only
[08:10] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the installation process doesn't require you to sudo
[08:10] <noodz> but there is a guide in the wiki to enabling the root user
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> because i once installed a ubuntu 5 and it had an 'expert' mode
[08:10] <mooseman447> do you know how to make xchat auto join servers?
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> which let me create a password for root
[08:10] <BrunoTorres> how can I live without su? can you?
[08:10] <noodz> basically you are limited to sudo by default but if you "sudo passwd root" you can create a password for it and that will enable login
[08:10] <polpak> BrunoTorres: you can create a password for root if you want.. I can't imagine why you'd want it though
[08:11] <witless> mooseman447: in the server list, click edit, and there's a space for "channels to join"
[08:11] <polpak> BrunoTorres: sudo -i works fine for me
[08:11] <BrunoTorres> because I'm used to it and i don't like sudo
[08:11] <BrunoTorres> sudo -i?
[08:11] <polpak> BrunoTorres: gives you a root shell
[08:11] <mooseman447> yea but i want to just launch xchat and have it join freenode without any interaction
[08:11] <polpak> BrunoTorres: same as su -
[08:11] <ElBrujo> hey
[08:11] <ElBrujo> some body know about XGL?
[08:12] <witless> mooseman447: it does
[08:12] <polpak> !xgl
[08:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:12] <BrunoTorres> but, it'll tell me to create a password to root on the installation process?
[08:12] <ElBrujo> i cant start xgl in a sesion
[08:12] <mooseman447> how?
[08:12] <ElBrujo> i made the scripts
[08:12] <polpak> BrunoTorres: no, but you can create one after the install
[08:12] <BrunoTorres> how?
[08:12] <mooseman447> i always need to go to server and then find freenode and then it autojoins the chans
[08:12] <polpak> BrunoTorres: sudo passwd root
[08:12] <ElBrujo> and i select xgl in sesion selector
[08:12] <noodz> "sudo passwd root"
[08:12] <witless> mooseman447: press ctrl-S, select the network, click edit, and enter the channels to join in the given space.  next time you start xchat, it will enter those channels
[08:12] <polpak> !tell BrunoTorres about root
[08:12] <ElBrujo> but it don't work
[08:12] <BrunoTorres> ah, so now life is happiness and glee again
[08:12] <ElBrujo> ???
[08:13] <polpak> !tell ElBrujo about xgl
[08:13] <BrunoTorres> i know root is unsafe and bla bla bla, but i know what i do with my box...
[08:13] <polpak> ElBrujo: read the message ubotu sent you
[08:13] <mooseman447> brb let me check
[08:13] <ElBrujo> yea i follow these steps but my xgl sesion dont work
[08:14] <BrunoTorres> I mean, if it's just me who will use the computer, there's no point on not using root for security reasins
[08:14] <ElBrujo> i cant start the xgl in GDM
[08:14] <noodz> BrunoTorres, thats the way I feel.  but when I need a root shell sudo -i works well and theres no reason to open a possible security hole unless you have a really good reason dont want to leave a root tty open by accident
[08:14] <BrunoTorres> I'll just use it when I need it, and i'll know what I do
[08:14] <babo> so if I want to use my server to send out a letter, but that letter is in Korean. How would I got about doing that, without having to install Korean on the server ?
[08:14] <mooseman447> nope i had to do crtl s and manually hit connect
[08:14] <BrunoTorres> noodz: I'll give sudo -i a try
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> it'll just open a root shell?
[08:15] <witless> mooseman447: works automatically for me. let me see
[08:15] <mooseman447> witless are you using some sorta script?
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: yep
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: you can't tell the difference
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> won't prompt for the root password?
[08:15] <witless> mooseman447: ah, i think you might have to check "skip server list at startup"
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: it'll prompt you for your user password
[08:15] <mooseman447> yea i did try that
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> ah, so it's nice
[08:15] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the root password will still be disabled
[08:15] <BrunoTorres> polpak: thanks
[08:16] <mooseman447> its odd because a app like this would seem like it would autojoin the network
[08:16] <BrunoTorres> noodz: thanks
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: so no sneaky poking at ssh trying to get root access
[08:16] <BrunoTorres> I'll go there and install it
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: the cool thing about the live cD
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: you can come chat with us while it's installing
[08:16] <BrunoTorres> heh...yeah
[08:16] <polpak> BrunoTorres: or play a game
[08:16] <witless> mooseman447: how about "auto connect to this network at startup"
[08:16] <mooseman447> where did you find that?!
[08:17] <BrunoTorres> well, let's see if this time I'll keep ubuntu and not go back to ol' debian unstable
[08:17] <witless> same dialog where you enter the channels to join
[08:17] <BrunoTorres> :D
[08:17] <ElBrujo> please
[08:17] <amit> can an image of ubuntu be made to port it on ARM processor?
[08:17] <princeduke> \quit
[08:17] <mooseman447> lol another obvious mistake i should sleep now.....
[08:17] <Sashi> hey
[08:17] <witless> :-)
[08:18] <amit> can an image of ubuntu be made to port it on ARM processor?
[08:18] <Sashi> i cant seem to change permissions to a folder and its sub dirs
[08:18] <mooseman447> lol but now is it possible to launch xchat on boot?
[08:18] <Sashi> i did chmod 777 but it wont change..
[08:18] <BrunoTorres> so, people, thanks for the help...I'll come back to tell you how good I'm doing with ubuntu
[08:18] <BrunoTorres> bye bye
[08:18] <polpak> Sashi: can only change perms on files you own
[08:18] <witless> mooseman447: i think you can do that in the sessions preferences
[08:18] <mooseman447> k cool
[08:18] <Sashi> ok..
[08:18] <Sashi> so how can i change the owner
[08:18] <polpak> Sashi: sudo
[08:19] <witless> Sashi: what are you trying to change?
[08:19] <noodz> Sashi: sudo chown
[08:19] <amit> can an image of ubuntu be made to port it on ARM processor?
[08:19] <mooseman447> whoa i found it witless
[08:19] <witless> excellent
[08:19] <polpak> Sashi: you could alternatively sudo chmod if you really want the owners to stay the way they are
[08:19] <mooseman447> that was oddly easy.......
[08:20] <Ademan> anyone here know a possible reason why i can't connect to my ftp server when i've set it up so that ports 20 and 21 are forwarded (through my router) to my server, as well as 44000 - 44128, and vsftpd has that range set as the pasv_min and pasv_max ports
[08:20] <Sashi> i want to change owner
[08:20] <Sashi> on a folder
[08:20] <Sashi> and its sub dirs
[08:20] <tozth> Sashi: sudo chown owner:group
[08:20] <polpak> Sashi: sudo chown -r owner:group dir
[08:20] <polpak> err
[08:20] <polpak> -R
[08:20] <witless> note that will also change the file ownership, not just the dirs
[08:20] <witless> -R
[08:20] <zcat[1] > Ademan: can you telnet localhost 21 from the server ?
[08:20] <Sashi> owner is who owns it?
[08:21] <Sashi> or i want to change it
[08:21] <zcat[1] > or ftp localhost ?
[08:21] <Sashi> to that owver
[08:21] <polpak> Sashi: it's who you want to own it
[08:21] <polpak> Sashi: it'll change any other files (not just directories) in that directory as well
[08:21] <polpak> Sashi: what folder are you changing?
[08:21] <witless> Sashi: is this on a directory of your data or is it a ssytem directory?
[08:22] <Sashi> its on my folder
[08:22] <Sashi> /home/Sashi/Desktop
[08:22] <witless> ok
[08:22] <Sashi> sudo chown -R sashi:sashi Desktop/Stuff/
[08:22] <polpak> Sashi: then sudo chown -R Sashi:Sashi /home/Sashi/Desktop should be fine
[08:22] <Sashi> k
[08:22] <polpak> Sashi: unless your user is lowercase
[08:22] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i can ftp the server from behind the same router
[08:23] <polpak> Sashi: in which case make it lower ;p
[08:23] <da> hi how can i play encrypted dvd's im getting some error"libdvdread cannot play encrypted dvd"
[08:23] <suprchris> I just thought that maybe it would make you guys feel good to know that linux, with your help is really easy to understand
[08:23] <suprchris> thanks for all your support guys
[08:23] <Ademan> i havent tried it from the server
[08:24] <witless> suprchris: excellent - keep working at it
[08:24] <suprchris> like I said it's super easy
[08:24] <polpak> suprchris: linux isn't really that hard.. The 90's was a long time ago ;p
[08:24] <da> simply i want to enable encrypted dvd support im apparently missing some program any ideas?
[08:24] <suprchris> and i like it already, better than windows
[08:24] <polpak> suprchris: it's gotten so much better since then
[08:24] <zcat[1] > Ademan: next thing to check; is the router passing traffic through (use etherial to check) and is the ftp server configured to only accept connections from your local network?
[08:24] <polpak> !tell da about dvd
[08:24] <zcat[1] > Ademan: and do you have any kind of firewall rules on the server box?
[08:24] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[08:24] <polpak> da: read the message from ubotu
[08:25] <Sashi> thx :)
[08:25] <Sashi> one more question
[08:25] <Ademan> zcat[1] : no firewall that I know of on the server, but i don't know if its passing the traffic through or not, i'm telling it to though lol
[08:25] <Sashi> how can i format a NTFS hdd?
[08:25] <da> thanks thats exactly it
[08:25] <polpak> Sashi: you can use gparted
[08:25] <Sashi> o yes
[08:25] <elijah> what was that command to switch off ntpdate on boot?
[08:25] <zcat[1] > Ademan: run a packet sniffer and see if anything's getting through when you try to connect; the firewall might require a reboot before it applies your rules too...
[08:27] <Ademan> whats a decent packet sniffer for linux?
[08:27] <suprchris> I might be stating the obvious but is ubotu a bot?
[08:27] <polpak> suprchris: yes
[08:27] <polpak> !botsnack
[08:27] <ubotu> :)
[08:27] <cynical> lol
[08:27] <zcat[1] > ethereal
[08:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell suprchris about yourself
[08:28] <zcat[1] > !ubotu
[08:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:28] <chris_> DBO here?
[08:28] <elijah> plz tell me how to stop ntpdate..i dont remember that command
[08:28] <chris_> :)
[08:28] <suprchris> wow like a robot with a manual and all
[08:28] <suprchris> how 'bout that
[08:29] <Ademan> thanks zcat[1] 
[08:30] <witless> elijah: when does it run - when you boot?
[08:31] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:31] <elijah> witless, yes
[08:31] <peanutb> how do i shutdown from terminal?
[08:31] <elijah> witless, there was a command na? sudo rc something?
[08:31] <da> polpak what do i do when the ubotu information is wrong?
[08:32] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:32] <polpak> da: ah.. sorry I thought that factoid referenced the wiki
[08:33] <polpak> da: go to the restricted formats wiki. it explains how to get dvd's to work
[08:33] <polpak> !tell da about restricted
[08:33] <redblades> There is something special about ubuntu, something fundamentally different in the very concept.
[08:33] <varsendaggr> has anyonte trie using SPE?
[08:33] <bthornton> what is the "preferred" file sharing protocol between Linux boxen?  I'm looking for one that's both secure and fast... NFS seems obvious, but the security holes are glaring
[08:33] <da> i got it t hanks although who can i  tell ot change that link the seveas repository dosent acually contain libdvdcss2
[08:34] <polpak> da I'll fix it
[08:34] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:34] <witless> elijah: it looks like on dapper that ntpdate runs when your network interface comes up
[08:34] <da> :)
[08:34] <amonkey> how can i check what driver a network interace is using?
[08:35] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound in dapper my system already detect the sound card (ac97)
[08:35] <redblades> There is footage of Nelson Mandela, in which he describes "ubuntu" and it occurred to me, that ubuntu has the potential to change the very meaning of life
[08:35] <redblades> udo: can or can't?
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> redblades, i think it is probably a but simpler than that
[08:35] <udo> cant
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> *bit
[08:35] <varsendaggr> redblades, do you smoke grass?
[08:36] <suprchris> that's odd i have the same and mine detected upon install
[08:36] <redblades> no
[08:36] <redblades> Why?
[08:36] <varsendaggr> that's good
[08:36] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:36] <redblades> varsendaggr: no, why?
[08:36] <varsendaggr> you were getting philisophicall
[08:36] <redblades> Oh
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> !offtopic
[08:36] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:36] <bthornton> Any suggestions for filesharing alternatives to NFS for Linux <--> Linux transfers?  Samba?  Or is that more of a "hack" between Linux boen?
[08:36] <bthornton> *boxen
[08:37] <witless> elijah:
[08:37] <redblades> pppoe_dude: get a life
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, you can try fish
[08:37] <bthornton> !fish
[08:37] <ubotu> [fish]  A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[08:37] <witless> elijah: if you comment out the settings in /etc/default/ntpdate, i think it will bypass ntpdate on boot
[08:37] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound in dapper my system already detect the sound card (ac97)
[08:37] <redblades> bthornton: Samba works fine between Linux/Windows
[08:37] <redblades> Same SMB protcol
[08:37] <redblades> ***protocol
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, it actuall can work very nicely if properly configured
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, and you get bonus security
[08:38] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:38] <bthornton> redblades: yeah I knew that, I just wasn't sure if it was oft used between linux machines exclusively
[08:38] <redblades> Oh, sorry. I misunderstood the question
[08:38] <tb77> udo: are you using gnome?
[08:38] <Khaotik> Someone please help me :(
[08:38] <udo> tb77 yes
[08:39] <udo> i can hear anything the volumes is up
[08:39] <bthornton> I want something that's "native" to Linux/Unix, which sorta screams NFS... but it's just unacceptable for anybody to gain access to any files if they just create an account on the client with the same UID/GID
[08:39] <Lorri> How do I get rid of shift+backspace that restarts X
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, fish would do that... you can mount filesystems like any other,
[08:40] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: I'm looking fish up right now; thanks for the suggestion
[08:40] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:40] <Khaotik> PLEASE
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, once you configure it.. and most computers have ssh
[08:40] <tb77> udo: right click on the volume control -> preferences
[08:40] <suprchris> hey udo try looking here if nothing else works: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:41] <Khaotik> Can anyone help me with my digital audio output?
[08:41] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:41] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: is fish a KDE-specific beast?
[08:41] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: as per http://www.linux.org/lessons/short/fish/x24.html ?
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, no. it is more of a console-based thing
[08:41] <bthornton> hm
[08:41] <bthornton> ok
[08:42] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:42] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, also look up sshfs
[08:43] <redblades> Khaotik: STOP DOING THAT!
[08:43] <tb77> Khaotik: havf you tried seeing if there is a digital option in alsamixer?
[08:43] <redblades> IF SOMEONE WORKS OUT THE ISSUES THEY WILL TELL YOU!
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> !caps
[08:43] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[08:43] <Khaotik> Well if someone would even aknowledge that im fucking here
[08:43] <Khaotik> Yes
[08:43] <Khaotik> Didnt do anything
[08:43] <redblades> Yelling? DUH. I'm, yelling. At the trollish repetition
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> Khaotik, please watch language. someone is probably checking out your problem
[08:43] <Khaotik> lol
[08:45] <redblades> Khaotik: I know it can be frustrating, but the people here all have things they need to be doing, and if you think nobody say the post, wait 5 minutes, then post again.
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[08:45] <Khaotik> Yes master...
[08:45] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: kewl, thanks again
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:46] <vortex> hello. i used the update function and now my system is not booting any more. a friend has the same problem. "root (hd0,0) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> vortex, was your kernel updated?
[08:47] <pppoe_dude> vortex, try rebooting with the old kernel
[08:47] <vortex> yes and same problem
[08:48] <Lorri> How do I get rid of shift+backspace that restarts X
[08:48] <Unintentional> hey.  I'm attempting to write a script that would run at startup that would sync data between two machines using rsync over ssh.  does anyone know where I'd place the private key so authentication is automatic?
[08:48] <Unintentional> do I have to create a /home/root/.ssh for that?
[08:48] <kholerabbi> How do I make windows default in grub?
[08:48] <witless> Unintentional: yeah - you have to generate public and private keys
[08:48] <dam> !dma
[08:48] <ubotu> Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> vortex, anything else changed since then?
[08:48] <vortex> no
[08:49] <witless> kholerabbi: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, check out the option named "default" - it's documented in the file
[08:49] <blktiger> have samsung clp-510n printer. samsung provides linux i386 driver. how can i use that if I am runing amd64 kernel
[08:49] <pppoe_dude> vortex, what stage of the booting process does it sto pat?
[08:49] <vortex> directly after grob
[08:49] <vortex> grub
[08:49] <kholerabbi> witless: cheers, I new you could do something with that file but wasn't sure - also, is there any other way of doing?
[08:50] <Unintentional> witless: I have the keys okay, I just don't know where to put them.  normally it's in $HOME/.ssh, but I don't know which user startup scripts run as, nor what folder is home for that user.
[08:50] <witless> kholerabbi: i don't think so - that's the way you do it
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> vortex, do you have dual booting?
[08:50] <wm0t> hello, does anyone know how to fake hops?
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> vortex, or do you have windows installed?
[08:51] <Sashi> hey
[08:51] <witless> Unintentional: i guess it would be root.  so put the public key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[08:51] <Sashi> how do i move files to a folder?
[08:51] <witless> also, make sure that file is not world-readable, or the connect will fail
[08:51] <Sashi> erm how do i move every file into a folder
[08:51] <vortex> pppoe_dude: the only thing i have on screen after grub is: booting 'ubuntu, krnel 2.6.15-23-386' root(hd0,0) filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 kernel /boot/... root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash error 17: cannot mount selected partition prass any key
[08:51] <kholerabbi> witless: Do I just change the "default		0" line to "default		5" or whatever number is windows?
[08:52] <Unintentional> witless: I'll give it a shot.  thanks.
[08:52] <witless> Unintentional: np - good luck
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> vortex, do you have more than one operating system on the computer?
[08:52] <vortex> pppoe_dude: i have windows kind of installed.
[08:52] <witless> kholerabbi: yes, that's it.  remember that the numbering starts with 0, not 1
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> vortex, ok
[08:52] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> vortex, looks like a grub problem
[08:52] <Unintentional> witless: actually, wait, is /root the home for root, as opposed to /home/root?
[08:52] <kholerabbi> witless: Thanks :)
[08:52] <witless> Unintentional: it's /root
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> vortex, you might need to boot from rescue CD and reinstall or reconfigure grub
[08:53] <Unintentional> witless: beautiful.  thanks again.
[08:53] <Sashi> /home/ is where all your users
[08:53] <Sashi> are
[08:53] <witless> good luck
[08:53] <witless> root is special - its home directory is /root
[08:53] <bthornton> Anybody else having slow ssh file transfers between Ubuntu 6.06 hosts?
[08:53] <Toma-> ive got a small printing issue, i cant add a new printer even tho i have all the drivers installed. Step 2 of the Add a printer dialog has no Manufacturers and hence,  no printers. Anyone else seen this problem?
[08:53] <witless> bthornton: what's "slow"?
[08:53] <Khaotik> Is their still support for Breezy?
[08:53] <bthornton> I'm pulling files across the local network at a fraction of the speed that I do from the Internet
[08:53] <Sashi> so...
[08:54] <vortex> pppoe_dude: a friend get the same problem from a fresh downloaded ubuntu version
[08:54] <witless> bthornton: using scp ?\
[08:54] <Sashi> how do i move all files into a folder
[08:54] <ompaul> Khaotik, until 04 in 2007
[08:54] <bthornton> witless: This is using the graphical "Connect to Server..." function in Gnome
[08:54] <witless> Sashi: mv <filespec> /the/folder/
[08:54] <wm0t> hello, does anyone know how to fake hops?
[08:54] <Sashi> filespec?
[08:54] <gigaclon> *.*
[08:54] <gigaclon> for all
[08:54] <bthornton> witless: I'll benchmark...
[08:54] <ompaul> wm0t, obviously not
[08:55] <Khaotik> ompaul: Thank you
[08:55] <gigaclon> that would require going to a beer company and finding out what real hops are
[08:55] <witless> Sashi: if you want to move everything in /home/foo into /home/bar, you would do:   mv /home/foo/* /home/bar/
[08:55] <wm0t> hello, does anyone know how to fake hops? as in traceroute hops
[08:55] <Sashi> lol o man
[08:55] <Sashi> im sooo out
[08:55] <Sashi> i hate it
[08:55] <varsendaggr> can someone tell me if SPE works for dapper
[08:55] <vortex> pppoe_dude: "rescue CD" = normal download? i cannot find another one
[08:56] <Sashi> havent used linux for almost 2 years now T.T
[08:56] <witless> Sashi: it will all come back to you  :-)
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> vortex, its the same CD you installed from if you downloaded the "desktop" install CD
[08:56] <Sashi> yes hopefull
[08:56] <xprisoner> anybody noticed the latest updates on Dapper broke the sound on Unreal 2004?
[08:56] <kholerabbi> Often there are two of the same files together - one will be normal, while th other will have a tilde (~) at the end of the filename, and a different icon - what's the difference, what are they?
[08:56] <Khaotik> Now i see why i went back to Mac
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> vortex, however, I am not entirely sure about the specifics of whaT you need to do
[08:57] <Topslakr> kholerabbi - one has been edited the ~ is the revision before the last save
[08:57] <amarokker>  err, guys - something not rdirectly related to Ubuntu- i am doing my cambridge computing coursework using linux.- but i am having some probs developing a web application using mysql- any help (pvt is ok) is greatly appreciated...and of course, guess whats community is going to get all the credit ;)
[08:57] <witless> kholerabbi: those are backup files.  if you edit a text file, you'll see that the original is named with the ~
[08:57] <skipmeister> what happened to the gnome tool for starting/stopping services? Is there a replacement?
[08:57] <vortex> pppoe_dude: but i should use a new one, or the one i used like 2 weekes ago, when i installed 6.06?
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> wouldnt matter - they should be the same
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> one release
[08:57] <Madpilot> amarokker, you might want to try #web
[08:57] <kholerabbi> hmm - OK thanks - the menu.lst has one - I just open the one without the tilde?
[08:57] <witless> skipmeister: System, Administration, Services
[08:57] <amarokker> Thanks, mad pilot :)
[08:58] <vortex> pppoe_dude: thank you very much for your kinde help. i will try my luck :)
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> vortex, np
[08:58] <skipmeister> witless, but there are a lot less services than under the previous version of this app
[08:58] <witless> oh
[08:58] <martii> hi
[08:58] <martii> it looks I have a problem
[08:58] <martii> after some latest upgrades
[08:58] <martii> my alsa setup is broken
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> vortex, might wanna try man grub
[08:59] <Toma-> Anyone know a reason as to why my printing drivers arnt showing in the Add Printer box?
[08:59] <kholerabbi> Hey, /boot/grub/menu.lst is a sudolocked file? How do I open it through the command line? And how do I open it through the file browser?
[08:59] <martii> USB microfone became default device
[08:59] <martii> hw0,0
[08:59] <xprisoner> my sound works in rhythembox but some of my games no longer work as well martii
[08:59] <Lorri> Guys
[09:00] <Lorri> How can I make
[09:00] <Lorri> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:00] <martii> xprisoner: it does not work on startup
[09:00] <Lorri> run every time at boot
[09:00] <martii> xprisoner: I get mutet sound icon on top taskbar
[09:00] <vortex> pppoe_dude: problem: cant start the linux...
[09:00] <blktiger> have samsung clp-510n printer. samsung provides linux i386 driver. how can i use that if I am runing amd64 kernel
[09:01] <xprisoner> hmm, i don't have that issue, my sound is working on startup
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> vortex, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/grub.8.html
[09:01] <vortex> thx!
[09:01] <dura> vmlinuz
[09:01] <witless> kholerabbi: you could try running this at the command line:  sudo gedit   - and then open the file and edit it
[09:01] <dura> init.rd
[09:01] <dura> err
[09:01] <dura> initrd
[09:01] <dura> insomnia sucks...
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> vortex, also check out grub-install
[09:01] <Lorri> How can I make
[09:01] <Lorri> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:01] <Lorri> run every time at boot
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> vortex, http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/grub-install.8.html
[09:02] <Toma-> Anyone know a reason as to why my printing drivers arnt showing in the Add Printer box?
[09:02] <dura> Lorri, Add it to ~/.xinitrc
[09:02] <kholerabbi> witless: that works - but isn't there a way of doing it in one line? I tried sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst but ti didn't work
[09:02] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[09:02] <Lorri> okay thanks
[09:02] <dura> Toma-, What Printer? Is it supported?
[09:02] <Toma-> dura, yep
[09:02] <witless> kholerabbi: i tried it and it worked for me
[09:03] <Toma-> dura, Epson stylus rx530
[09:03] <Lorri> dura: Do I have to add it to startup things
[09:03] <nessmuk> can someone tell me which file to edit to correct my monitor resolution?
[09:03] <ompaul> !resolution
[09:03] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:04] <dura> Lorri, Just put   exec /usr/bin/whatever
[09:04] <ompaul> nessmuk, ^^ up a line or two
[09:04] <kholerabbi> witless: Oh, woops, I tried gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst instead of just sudo
[09:04] <dura> Toma-, Well..
[09:04] <dura> hmm
[09:04] <ompaul> !enter
[09:04] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:04] <witless> ah ok
[09:04] <jrsims> HEY did those RECENT PACKAGE UPDATES kill anyone's x windows?
[09:04] <Toma-> dura, im gonna file a bug :( ive got another bug with nvidia drivers too
[09:04] <dura> Toma-, Do you have the windows driver disc?
[09:04] <Toma-> dura, yeh, no ppd files on it tho
[09:04] <nessmuk> ! resolution
[09:04] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:05] <dura> Try renaming it to .pdd?
[09:05] <dura> That worked for me...
[09:05] <Toma-> rightio
[09:05] <Lorri> dura: To make the file, do I just put this in the file
[09:05] <Lorri> and nothing else?
[09:05] <ganteng> hi
[09:06] <dura> Lorri, If there isn't a .xinitrc in your /home then yes make it.
[09:06] <dura> If there is one just add that line to it.
[09:06] <ganteng> hi
[09:06] <ganteng> hi
[09:06] <Lorri> and just leave it at that right
[09:06] <Ademan> zcat[1] : !!!!
[09:06] <Lorri> Thanks
[09:07] <dura> Lorri, Yes... save it, and log out.
[09:07] <dura> then back in.
[09:07] <Lorri> ok
[09:07] <ganteng> hi
[09:08] <dura> Hi ganadist
[09:08] <dura> :|
[09:08] <dura> ganteng,
[09:09] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[09:09] <martii> xprisoner: so any clue what's wrong?
[09:10] <ganteng> any one can help it is my first time chat
[09:10] <dura> What do you need?
[09:10] <Toma-> !scanner
[09:10] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> does anyone have experience with shorewall? When you set a rule, is it automatically inbound and outbound, or just inbound? ACCEPT loc1:192.168.1.20 net tcp 8080 <-- something like this, for example.
[09:11] <dura> fyrestrtr, Look in /etc/shorewall/rules
[09:11] <Lorri> dura didn't work
[09:11] <Lorri> :(
[09:11] <witless> ganteng: what do you need help with?
[09:11] <dura> Lorri, Okay... then you'll have to find the startup file in /etc and add the same thing to it.
[09:11] <dura> Non big deal...
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> dura: that's where I got that line from :P
[09:11] <Lorri> what was the file that you told me to edit before
[09:12] <Lorri> >_< I forgot what I wanted to put in it
[09:12] <Lorri> xD
[09:12] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a USB ADSL modem ?
[09:12] <dura> lol
[09:12] <ganteng> it is also my first time use linuk specialy ubuntu, why my browsing very slow, people said that linuk is the leader in browsing
[09:12] <nyersa> so, is it normal behaviour for OO.o writer to crash when I click on "tools, macro, run macro..." on a default dapper load?
[09:12] <neutrinomass> nyersa: No, file a bug at launchpad http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs . Take a look for a duplicate first ...
[09:12] <Lorri> dura: was it something like .xinit
[09:13] <dura> Yes
[09:13] <dura> without the . in /etc
[09:13] <dura> If you can't find it let me know I'll look... I'm ssh
[09:13] <dura> :|
[09:13] <Khaotik> What do you guys choose, Gnome or Fluxbox?
[09:13] <dura> If you can't find it let me know I'll look... I'm ssh'd into 6 Ubuntu boxen lol.
[09:13] <xprisoner> martii: no, i'm trying to gather more info on it now. i'll post in the forum about it as well.
[09:13] <elijah> i disabled ntpdate with sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove.....how do i enable it?
[09:13] <dura> I choose FVWM-Crystal.
[09:13] <gdb> Anyone here running on a Dell Optiplex GX620?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> elijah: same command, replace remove with add (I think)
[09:14] <Khaotik> I have both Fb installed
[09:14] <Lorri> dura:  I can't find it
[09:14] <Lorri> D:
[09:14] <Khaotik> but i cant seem to get things set up the way i want
[09:14] <Khaotik> It sorta reminded me of LiteStep shell for windowze
[09:14] <neutrinomass> nyersa: If you end up filing a bug, please get a backtrace following http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash :) It's really neccessary...
[09:14] <dura> lol
[09:14] <Lorri> I'll just find it myself
[09:14] <Lorri> D:
[09:14] <nyersa> neutrinomass: k, will do
[09:14] <dura> Hang on
[09:14] <Scorpmoon> there's no flash for Ubuntu x64 ?
[09:14] <Lorri> Got it
[09:14] <Lorri> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:14] <Lorri> anyway
[09:15] <Lorri> How do I do it?
[09:15] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: No... complain to macromedia :)
[09:15] <Khaotik> gdb i had kubuntu running on a optiplex Gl but i do not know about the GX620
[09:15] <redblades> Heh heh heh, I just got movie player to play DVD's, but I can't work out how to select things from the menu
[09:16] <Scorpmoon> but there's flash for XP and Vista x64?
[09:16] <redblades> Any help?
[09:16] <Khaotik> redblades
[09:16] <redblades> yeah?
[09:16] <dura> I'm glad Gentoo-AMD64 can use flash.
[09:16] <Khaotik> did u install all of the libdvd nav?
[09:16] <dura> :)
[09:16] <Scorpmoon> what other things am I missing out on, running x64
[09:16] <dura> :isn't missing anything
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> redblades: use the mouse :)
[09:16] <redblades> I think so... Khaotik, more info? Oh and did you solve your issue?
[09:16] <Khaotik> XD
[09:16] <Khaotik> Nope
[09:16] <dura> Java... flash... wifi... ATi... all work excellent.
[09:16] <Khaotik> not yet
[09:16] <Healot> dura, the same on ubuntu, even the same technique is use
[09:17] <amarokker> Hi
[09:17] <dura> Healot, Ubuntu is using multilib now?
[09:17] <Khaotik> Well i never had a problem with menus
[09:17] <Khaotik> I just installed libdvdcss2
[09:17] <amarokker> can someone tell me why i cant ping localhost?
[09:17] <Khaotik> and it was a snap
[09:17] <redblades> fyrestrtr: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[09:17] <Lorri> dura: do I have to add #!/bin/sh to the top
[09:17] <ganteng> who will help me some body pleas
[09:17] <Lorri> of my new file
[09:17] <redblades> Oh dear that is fnny
[09:17] <dura> Lorri, No... that's for a bash script.
[09:17] <Lorri> oh ok
[09:17] <Lorri> so just make xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[09:17] <Khaotik> I recommend xine-ui
[09:17] <Lorri> and add it to startup
[09:17] <Khaotik> for dvds
[09:17] <dura> yes
[09:17] <Khaotik> It is very good
[09:17] <redblades> MSG TO ALL: I just had to use the mouse
[09:17] <Lorri> kk
[09:17] <garryfre> There is a file where the system is to define localhost, maybe that line is missing?
[09:17] <elijah> fyrestrtr, ok thx
[09:18] <Khaotik> XD
[09:18] <redblades> I didn't even think
[09:18] <Khaotik> redblades good job
[09:18] <Khaotik> :>
[09:18] <redblades> fyrestrtr: yes, thankyou very much
[09:18] <dura> garryfre, What does /etc/resolv.conf have in it?
[09:18] <redblades> Wait, can somebody say my name?
[09:18] <redblades> "type it"
[09:18] <lxIT> Hello all
[09:18] <Khaotik> redblades
[09:18] <dura> redblades
[09:18] <Khaotik> ?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> ermm, /etc/resolv.conf is not going to help with localhost. Most likely lo is not up.
[09:19] <redblades> Thanks, I was trying to discern the highlighting Gaim uses
[09:19] <dura> If he can't ping?
[09:19] <dura> He didn't say what he was trying to ping.
[09:19] <redblades> It makes it mustard
[09:19] <garryfre> dura lemme see. I can ping my localhost myself.
[09:19] <Khaotik> Nobody has replied to my Audio problem
[09:19] <Khaotik> :(
[09:19] <redblades> coloured
[09:19] <dura> garryfre, But not www.yahoo.com ?
[09:19] <redblades> I'm sorry, I don't know
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> I think he said he can't ping localhost.
[09:19] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: then how do I get lo up?
[09:19] <dura> garryfre, is the ethernet interface connected and up?
[09:19] <redblades> Khaotic, I know you have, but try Google again, be very specific, (but no too much) : )
[09:19] <lxIT> Khaotik: What's the problem you have?
[09:19] <dura> He just said he can
[09:19] <amarokker> I think there's a problem in the interfaces file.
[09:20] <Khaotik> can someone help me with my Digital sound output problem? Full info here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1148397#post1148397
[09:20] <Khaotik> well lxIT
[09:20] <Khaotik> thats the link at the end
[09:20] <garryfre> dura My pings seem to work fine. I was trying to help someone who said they could not ping localhost.
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: first, what does ifconfig show you?
[09:20] <lxIT> Khaotik: I saw it... I have no experience wit Digital sound output, but I can check it out...
[09:20] <dura> tell them to see what ifconfig says about lo
[09:20] <dura>  /sbin/ifconfig
[09:21] <dura> Khaotik, What chipset is that?
[09:21] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/s6HkTN53.html
[09:21] <dura> I just say something in the Gentoo kernel about that
[09:21] <dura> saw
[09:21] <dura> ffs
[09:22] <lxIT> Is there someone who's been able to get DMA working on a SATA DVD-RW? I always get the error "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[09:22] <Khaotik> Im not sure dura
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: you are missing lo (loopback device)
[09:22] <Khaotik> Let me find the stats for the card
[09:22] <dura> I'll have to check into that... it's good though whichever way they're getting it done.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> lxIT: DMA only works on IDE devices, not SATA.
[09:22] <Scorpmoon> whats a keyboard shortcut to open terminal?
[09:22] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: let me with -a this time
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Scorpmoon: ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[09:23] <dura> hehe fyrestrtr
[09:23] <Scorpmoon> the GUI terminal
[09:23] <dura> ncurses is a GUI :P
[09:23] <Scorpmoon> is gnome running on ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[09:23] <lxIT> fyrestrtr: Mmmm... I've read some different things on www
[09:23] <amarokker> http://rafb.net/paste/results/d0SgvK52.html
[09:23] <estupendocero> I need help getting my display configured. I have an early flat-panel display that Ubuntu didn't detect properly at install. I only get 800x600, and there is a black bar around the edge of the screen where it is not being used.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> Scorpmoon: yes.
[09:24] <Khaotik> dura: 1373 chipset
[09:24] <estupendocero> I am kind of n00by, but not a complete moron; I've tried to fix it before and failed
[09:24] <garryfre> !fixres
[09:24] <dura> Khaotik, Let me have a look in the kernel again.
[09:24] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <lxIT> If I try "hdparm -I /dev/scd0" I get the error "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error"
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> lxIT: again, DMA *does not apply* to SATA drives.
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: paste the output of cat /etc/hosts
[09:25] <Igramul> lxIT: hdparm -I /dev/scd    - hdparm does also not apply to partitions
[09:25] <witless> Khaotik: you say you can hear the analog signal but not the digital
[09:25] <Khaotik> witless: correct
[09:25] <lxIT> Igramul: Thanks
[09:25] <witless> Many cards can do both analog and digital (labeled SPDIF/IEC958) output, but some cannot do both at the same time.
[09:25] <witless> If you hear no sound, it may be because the card is in analog mode and you have digital speakers or viceversa.
[09:25] <witless> To determine which mixer channels controls the switch between analog and digital for your card look at the page for your card.
[09:25] <witless> Often this is called Analog/Digital Output Jack. If present, mute/unmute it to switch between digital and analog sound output.
[09:26] <witless> did you see any such option in alsamixer?
[09:26] <Khaotik> Everything is unmuted. There is no SPDIF
[09:26] <Khaotik> just the single output and mic and line in
[09:26] <lxIT> Igramul: I get a "/dev/scd: No such file or directory" > /dev/dvdrw is pointing to /dev/scd0
[09:27] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ar3p5O77.html
[09:27] <Khaotik> i see an option for the IEC958
[09:27] <nzx> hi, does the new 2.6.15-25 kernel support sata disks ?
[09:27] <witless> what i pasted suggested that the mute state may toggle between analog/digital
[09:27] <garryfre> nzx: Yes, it sure does.
[09:28] <Lorri> To add a command that requires root to startup
[09:28] <nzx> garryfre, it wont boot on my machine, laptop with sata disk, hangs at loading root partition
[09:28] <Lorri> do I have to add sudo infront of the command in the file
[09:28] <Khaotik> witless: I muted/unmuted everything
[09:28] <Lorri> and if so, do I need to enter my password
[09:28] <Lorri> at startup
[09:28] <Khaotik> Nothing
[09:28] <witless> *shrug*
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: okay, and what happens when you ping localhost?
[09:29] <Khaotik> *sigh*
[09:29] <amarokker> timez out
[09:29] <garryfre> nzx Hmm, check to see that the root designation in grub is correct and that the sata dev names are correct.
[09:29] <Toma-> !scanner
[09:29] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:29] <amarokker> after this line: PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[09:29] <nzx> garryfre, it has root=/dev/sda1, which is correct
[09:29] <witless> update complete - time to reboot
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> same thing happens when you do ping 127.0.0.1 ?
[09:30] <garryfre> nzx did the earlier kernels work?
[09:30] <amarokker> yeah, same thing- i've been trying to figure this out for days on now-
[09:30] <nzx> garryfre, yep, using 2.6.15-23 righ now
[09:30] <amarokker> it is helpful tp know about the devices i have open.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> amarokker: does it happen when you disconnect from your adsl?
[09:31] <garryfre> nzx and the only difference between the kernel you are using now and the new one is the kernel file name? All devices should be the same.
[09:32] <amarokker> i've not checked that yet- i am using an eagle-USB modem (ppp0) that creates the eth1 device- i've used pppoeconf to get it working- but that still doesnt help network - it cant get up...wait let me check- brb
[09:32] <nzx> garryfre, yep
[09:32] <lxIT> Trying "hdparm -I /dev/scd0" {SATA-DVD} is giving me the error "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error", while trying "hdparm -I /dev/sda1" {SATA-HD} is working without a problem...
[09:32] <xprisoner> does anyone know how to tell what packages were updated in the updates tonight? is there a log?
[09:32] <to> hi
[09:33] <Khaotik> Should i upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[09:33] <xprisoner> yes
[09:33] <Scorpmoon> i can't select screen resolutions above 1024x768!
[09:33] <garryfre> sounds like you have discovered a true genuine bug there. I'd report that one.
[09:33] <lxIT> Khaotik: Yes!! Dapper rocks!!
[09:33] <Scorpmoon> i tried adding modes in xorg.conf, but still no
[09:33] <Khaotik> I hear automatix currently only works with breezy
[09:33] <Khaotik> ?
[09:33] <polpak> !resolution
[09:33] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:33] <xprisoner> works on dapper too
[09:33] <Khaotik> Ah
[09:33] <amarokker> fyrestrtr: oh, now it says- when I ping, that the network is not reachable
[09:33] <Khaotik> Ok its apt-get distupgrade right?
[09:34] <xprisoner> there is a newer ver for dapper
[09:34] <xprisoner> oh
[09:34] <xprisoner> i would do a fresh install
[09:34] <Khaotik> Oh
[09:34] <Khaotik> :(
[09:34] <xprisoner> my upgrade was ugly.
[09:34] <ormiret> Khaotik: update manager can do the upgrade
[09:34] <MrSmile> Hi people, I have installed ubuntu, and I don't know how to configure the xserver
[09:34] <Khaotik> armiret
[09:35] <Khaotik> ormiret will it cause any problems you think
[09:35] <garryfre> Easybuntu now works with dapper as well. I tried it last night. I can now play the videos and songs
[09:35] <MrSmile> can somebody tell me, which is the configure command to configure the xserver?
[09:35] <Khaotik> And will it keep my ap sources?
[09:35] <lxIT> MrSmile: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg"
[09:35] <Khaotik> apt*
[09:35] <MrSmile> I did it ones before, but I don't know anymore :(
[09:35] <lxIT> MrSmile: That's *xserver-xorg
[09:35] <nzx> garryfre, how do i report it ?
[09:35] <lxIT> (forgot the r)
[09:35] <amarokker> Can someone explain to me why things get so complex when I have two network devices on my computer- one an adsl/usb modem, and another one an onboard ethernet card?
[09:36] <MrSmile> what is the full command?
[09:36] <MrSmile> I have no idea anymore :(
[09:36] <ormiret> Khaotik: it should be fairly clean - it has logic to chack things are happening sanely, but it does depend how far your system is from a stock breezy install
[09:36] <garryfre> !bugs
[09:36] <MrSmile> lxIT: Could you please tell me the full command?
[09:36] <amarokker> and fyrestrtr: your concern is highly appreciated.
[09:36] <Khaotik> Ah
[09:37] <lxIT> MrSmile: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:37] <ormiret> Khaotik: yes to the apt sources
[09:37] <garryfre> say nzx On the default page for Foxfire, should be a link for reporting bugs.
[09:37] <Khaotik> For some reason when i run synaptic there is nothing to check off
[09:37] <Khaotik> only what is already installed
[09:37] <nzx> garryfre, thanks
[09:37] <witless> amarokker: what's complex?
[09:37] <garryfre> nzx welcome.
[09:37] <ormiret> Khaotik: update-manager rather than synaptic
[09:38] <Khaotik> ag
[09:38] <Khaotik> ah
[09:38] <amarokker> witless: networking- now, as i understand, the address is assigned for the device connected to my internet through DHCP right-?
[09:38] <amarokker> then how the heck do i get the ethernet card (which is not connected to a network) to work properly? without it, does localhost work?
[09:38] <witless> amarokker: i would assume so
[09:39] <garryfre> Seems nzx has this laptop, that if he boots with the next to the latest kernel, it boots fine, if he boots with current one for dapper, it hangs on boot. Sounds like a bug to me since the only thing that changed is the kernel file name. Any other ideas? Devices in his grub match etc etc, same hardware etc.
[09:40] <Khaotik> May i ask, what is so great about dapper?
[09:40] <garryfre> We like new shiney stuff. :)
[09:40] <nzx> garryfre, its a sony vaio s3xp, if that helps
[09:40] <garryfre> nzx It will help them to know.
[09:40] <nzx> Khaotik, my usb tv stick works on dapper :)
[09:40] <Khaotik> hehe
[09:41] <Khaotik> Thats how i felt when i went from Kubuntu to Ubuntu
[09:41] <Khaotik> For some reason no USB storage device worked on it
[09:41] <nzx> only if i could get my memory card reader work
[09:41] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> excuse me, may I ask a fool question?
[09:41] <garryfre> And with the new release, people are asking questions that occasionally I can help with. :)
[09:42] <Unintentional> M-Wei|Ub-Mac: go for it.
[09:42] <ormiret> M-Wei|Ub-Mac: certainly  - I might be able to answer it )
[09:42] <Khaotik> wow i love ubuntus servers
[09:42] <Khaotik> only 15 mins to upgrade to dapper
[09:42] <Khaotik> :)
[09:42] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> who is using dual screen with different resolusion?
[09:43] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> s/resolution/resolution/
[09:43] <bthornton> are there any "pre-packaged" solution in Ubuntu for setting up a simple iptables/NAT box for a network?  (something where I don't have to go edit individual 'iptables' statements)
[09:44] <denton> hi, i need help. I compiled without errors music applet 0.9.2 http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~kuliniew/music-applet/, but after sudo make install i don't have it in "add to panel" menu
[09:44] <visham> hi folks!!
[09:44] <zOap> Was there abig update to dapper yesterday?
[09:44] <bthornton> zOap: referring to the big software update?  I noticed.
[09:44] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> I have a problem with my iBook, I need a larger screen to do with Scribus.
[09:44] <bthornton> I'd imagine so.
[09:45] <garryfre> Yes there was z.
[09:45] <witless> i just installed a big update, rebooted, and now there's another big update  :-)
[09:45] <visham> i have 128 mb ram how do i make gnome to run faster???
[09:45] <zOap> bthornton, yeah, the update manager wanted to update 59 packages. which is a little high
[09:45] <Healot> add more RAM, visham
[09:45] <witless> visham: add more ram?
[09:45] <amarokker> I wonder what happened to Firetech
[09:45] <Khaotik> lol
[09:45] <visham> any other solutions??
[09:45] <Khaotik> I have 36something mb
[09:45] <Khaotik> and it runs good on my P3
[09:45] <bthornton> zOap: yeah.  there was a time when that'd bother me, but not anymore now that I have a big pipe to the Internet :)
[09:45] <Healot> visham: nay, RAM
[09:45] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> I've tweaked /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I can only see extended "desktop" in GDM, not in GNOME.
[09:45] <amarokker> i mean, fyrestrtr
[09:46] <witless> visham: use a lightweight environment like fluxbox or xfce
[09:46] <zOap> hehe
[09:46] <Khaotik> or buy a 512mb stick or more
[09:46] <zOap> I have 16 megabit
[09:46] <Khaotik> u can get them cheap at http://tigerdirect.com
[09:46] <visham> i use xfce also but progs like firefox and even the terminal take time to load
[09:46] <witless> 128 is pretty lean
[09:46] <spikeb> under xfce things load pretty quickly.
[09:47] <visham> compared to RH9 which i was using earlier on the same config things were faster
[09:47] <RamiKassab> hey guys, I'm in dire need of finding a method to run my installation of windows xp within linux
[09:47] <bthornton> RamiKassab: vmware
[09:47] <spikeb> visham: part of it is probably simply due to bloat
[09:47] <bthornton> !vmware
[09:47] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[09:47] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I can't use VM Ware because a VM is for creating and testing a new installation
[09:47] <witless> visham: have you done the usual disabling of all unused services?
[09:47] <armedking> Anyone have an idea of running a public file server on ubuntu  with ease? More or less like the Public File server applet in KDE
[09:47] <lin> damn, this menu prob with "keyboard label" is still present
[09:48] <visham> not completely
[09:48] <bthornton> RamiKassab: that was fast--you had that response ready :p
[09:48] <lin> is there already a bug report??
[09:48] <RamiKassab> lol I was in the middle of typing it
[09:48] <Geev8> hi all online
[09:48] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Who could answer my question?
[09:48] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I knew you guys would suggest vmware because I've talking to quite a few people about this already
[09:48] <bthornton> RamiKassab: out of curiosity, what do you need that a full VM won't provide you?
[09:48] <witless> visham: you might try xubuntu-desktop as well
[09:49] <bthornton> RamiKassab: I can think of no better way to run one operating system "within" another
[09:49] <RamiKassab> bthornton: well as far as my understanding goes, a vm isn't for running a pre-installed OS
[09:49] <garryfre> Well, it involves listing your monitors in xorg.conf and the reslolutions, and all that fun. I'm sure there is a page on it, but I don't know where.
[09:49] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I even asked the guys in the vmware channel and they recommended not to use vmware for a pre-installed OS
[09:49] <bthornton> bthornton: You mean that you already have Windows installed on another disk/partition and simply want to run that within Linux?
[09:49] <visham> tell me how to disable the unused services
[09:49] <RamiKassab> bthornton: yes
[09:50] <witless> visham: are you in ubuntu now?
[09:50] <RamiKassab> bthornton: assuming your last message was meant for me
[09:50] <Khaotik> Can anyone point me in the direction of a guide on Setting up deal monitors
[09:50] <visham> witless: yes
[09:50] <Khaotik> To streach the desktop across each
[09:50] <Geev8> i have a problem when i copy file to my floppy it says i dont have permission
[09:50] <witless> try System, Administration, Services
[09:50] <RamiKassab> bthornton: have you heard of win4lin?
[09:50] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: I have the same problem~>"<~....
[09:50] <Khaotik> hehe
[09:50] <bthornton> RamiKassab: Ah.  Well I see now why they would wouldn't suggest that: the VMWare creates a new "virtual machine" with its own "virtual hardware".  That'd be the equavilant of taking a windows HDD out of one PC and slapping it in a new PC--Windows doesn't like that because the drivers are all different.
[09:50] <visham> witless: the gdm is off iam in the console
[09:51] <Khaotik> I have a Sapphire Radeon X300 on a machine with Dual 19in KDS USA LCD's
[09:51] <bthornton> RamiKassab: I have
[09:51] <Khaotik> They are so sexy
[09:51] <Khaotik> and id kill for dualies on Linux
[09:51] <RamiKassab> bthornton: exactly, I just want to boot my already installed windows within Linux so I can access some proprietary software on it
[09:51] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: I am using iBook with external display.
[09:52] <graveson> what can i use to manage my desktop remotely via the internet
[09:52] <witless> visham: in that case, look at the services in /etc/init.d/ and decide which ones you don't need.  try stopping them with   /etc/init.d/<service> stop  ; then see if things run faster.  you can disable the service permanently with the update-rc.d  command
[09:52] <RamiKassab> bthornton: would win4lin be what I am looking for?
[09:52] <Khaotik> Ouch
[09:52] <Khaotik> I was thinking of getting an iBook
[09:52] <Khaotik> Which is better iBook or Powerbook?
[09:52] <Toma-> !scanner
[09:52] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:52] <RamiKassab> graveson: RDP - remote desktop protocol
[09:52] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: It's better to get MacBook now.
[09:52] <bthornton> RamiKassab: If there are specific applications you want to run from that Windows installation, you might have luck with WINE (*might* is the key word).
[09:52] <Khaotik> Ah
[09:52] <RamiKassab> graveson: are you trying to manage a windows or linux machine remotely?
[09:52] <Khaotik> I been running an older iMac for years now
[09:52] <Khaotik> 400mhz
[09:53] <witless> RamiKassab: do you have an extra ,achine?
[09:53] <witless> machine?
[09:53] <Khaotik> 256mb Pc100ram
[09:53] <Khaotik> :)
[09:53] <graveson> ramikassab: my ubuntu desktop
[09:53] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Khaotik: umm.....
[09:53] <bthornton> RamiKassab: But if your intention is to run a full session within Linux, there is no "smart" way of doing that because the session will try to load the drivers for the native, physical hardware that it was installed on.  Linux already has control of those devices, so without another layer in there (VMWare), there is no way for Windows to access that hardware.
[09:53] <RamiKassab> witless: yeah I do but I travel a lot and need these business apps with me
[09:53] <visham> witless: ok man thnx i will try that
[09:53] <witless> RamiKassab: ah
[09:53] <RamiKassab> witless: I have a lot of extra machines :) I have 3 laptops actually
[09:54] <witless> i was going to suggest stuffing one under a desk and using vnc, but not practical if you're on the road
[09:54] <bthornton> RamiKassab: I don't know much about win4lin...
[09:54] <bthornton> !win4lin
[09:54] <ubotu> bthornton: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:54] <bthornton> looks like ubotu doesn't either
[09:54] <RamiKassab> bthornton: darn
[09:55] <RamiKassab> bthornton: btw, I looked at Wine and Quickbooks and other various apps just don't even work with Wine
[09:55] <Geev8> I receave tis error when i coppy file to floppy disk (Error while copying to "/media/floppy0"  "You do not have permmision to write to this folder")
[09:55] <Toma-> ok, i can use my scaner as root, but not as an ordinary user. Any help?
[09:55] <Geev8> what am i suppors to do
[09:56] <bthornton> bthornton: This is true in many (most?) cases.  I'm not a fan of WINE at all myself.
[09:56] <witless> Toma-: are you a member of the scanner group?
[09:56] <Toma-> witless, indeed i am
[09:56] <RamiKassab> bthornton: yeah it doesn't seem too helpful because most of the apps that one would NEED to run in Linux because there is no plausible replacement aren't supported
[09:56] <M-Wei|Ub-Mac> Someone else has the answer?
[09:57] <RamiKassab> graveson: sorry for the delay, rdp or vnc would work for you
[09:57] <bthornton> RamiKassab: What in particular are you trying to run?
[09:57] <chris_> anyone know why i close my laptop lid and i have to use the alt key and some f something to get it working
[09:57] <RamiKassab> graveson: I believe ubuntu has VNC built into it, correct me if I am wrong guys
[09:57] <garryfre> Geev8: Under /system/Administration/users and groups find your account, click properties and then user priveleges and make sure the floppy box is checked.
[09:57] <Toma-> witless, heres the ls from the scanner device "0 crw-rw-rw- 1 lp scanner 180, 0 2006-06-17 14:43 /dev/usblp0"
[09:57] <RamiKassab> bthornton: QuickBooks, Microsoft OneNote, etc
[09:57] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I'm sure there is a replacement for OneNote
[09:57] <bthornton> ah
[09:57] <RamiKassab> bthornton: but not for QuickBooks
[09:58] <Khaotik> Does anyone here know how Ubuntu reacts on the new Centrino Duos?
[09:58] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I install GnuCash and a few others but they're just not the same
[09:58] <Khaotik> I have a custom Acer Aspire and id love to slap some ubuntu in there
[09:58] <xprisoner> martii: See if booting to your old kernel fixes your sound problem. It fixed mine.
[09:58] <RamiKassab> I think I may just have to install QuickBooks on my development laptop that's always running at home
[09:58] <chris_> anyone here on a laptop?
[09:58] <Geev8> Garryfre: ok let me do it i will let u know the result
[09:58] <RamiKassab> bthornton: I could just remote into the laptop and use it then if I needed it within Linux
[09:59] <spikeb> RamiKassab: are you a decent writer and explainer?
[09:59] <Khaotik> 3 mins left on Dapper update
[09:59] <Khaotik> woot
[09:59] <bthornton> RamiKassab: Yeah, short of creating a new Windows installation within a Virtual Machine (VMWare) and reinstalling Quickbooks there, I'd just say have another machine running
[09:59] <chris_> ramikassab ever have a problem with your laptop when you close the lid?
[09:59] <bthornton> or remote
[09:59] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I guess, why?
[09:59] <cute_bettong> ok i have a weard question
[09:59] <RamiKassab> chris_: no my laptop works fine when I close the lid, I'm running dapper, are you having issues?
[09:59] <spikeb> RamiKassab: do you think you could write something to, say, the gnucash team and the kmymoney team about what their apps are missing?
[10:00] <chris_> yes i am having issues RamiKassab :|
[10:00] <RamiKassab> chris_: what happens?
[10:00] <Khaotik> !korn
[10:00] <ubotu> Khaotik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <Khaotik> XD
[10:00] <stc> hi
[10:00] <Khaotik> !godhatesyouall
[10:00] <ubotu> Khaotik: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I have considered that, I just installed GNUCash yesterday but I can't wait for those changes to be implemented... business calls and accounting is a daily thing for me
[10:01] <cute_bettong> why was it yesterday i had 2 hdd0 icons one filesystem and another labeld root or something like that.....one showed in propertys the capacity of the drive was shown
[10:01] <chris_> Ok i close my laptop lid and i have to do fn crt/lcd then alt then some f5 or 6 or 7 or 8 then gives me commandline then f2 or something
[10:01] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I run 4 businesses and use QuickBooks for them all
[10:01] <cute_bettong> now today after the update it dissapeard leaving only the one that is called file system
[10:01] <Geev8> Garryfre: it is chacked even before so i didnt change any thing
[10:01] <cute_bettong> and it dosen't show the size anymore :(
[10:01] <chris_> you can use crossover office to install quickbooks
[10:01] <spikeb> RamiKassab: yes, i understand that you can not wait, but perhaps writing an email or something would do some good - it lets the developers know what they need to do
[10:02] <RamiKassab> chris_: you want your laptop to go into standby I'm assuming right?
[10:02] <remoteBoy> whats a couple of good bittorrent clients for ubuntu?
[10:02] <witless> Toma-: maybe the saned group?
[10:02] <chris_> no i just dont want it to mess up all the time
[10:02] <chris_> just when i close my laptop lid
[10:02] <chris_> :|
[10:02] <Toma-> witless, no go :(
[10:02] <garryfre> Geev8 Hmm, strange.I've not done much with floppies. You might have to mount it  or format it again.
[10:03] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I will write something for them but I need to play around with the apps a little more, but that doesn't solve my issue right now so when I figure out a way to do what I want, I will spend the time writing an email to them
[10:03] <Toma-> witless, ill give it a restart and see what permissions udev will give it. brb
[10:03] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I know it helps the community and that's a good suggestion
[10:03] <spikeb> RamiKassab: my advice is to use the machine remotely :)
[10:03] <garryfre> say Geev8 does it show up as an icon on desktop?
[10:03] <chris_> what is ubuntu standby :P
[10:03] <RamiKassab> spikeb: that's what I may do
[10:03] <chris_> is it nice ? anyone have problems with it?
[10:03] <RamiKassab> chris_: crossover office let's you install QuickBooks with Ubuntu?
[10:03] <remoteBoy> are there any good bittorrent clients for ubuntu that support rss?
[10:03] <chris_> yah i have it ;_
[10:03] <RamiKassab> chris_: where can I find this?
[10:03] <chris_> ;)
[10:04] <chris_> umm the pirate at the bay
[10:04] <Geev8> Garryfre: yes it shows
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: what laptop do you have
[10:04] <chris_> dell precision m50
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: ?
[10:04] <spikeb> RamiKassab: you have a couple more options as well - you can use vmware, and make a new windows install in it, or you can buy crossover office, and use it to install quickbooks (assumming it supports quickbooks)
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: where can I get it?
[10:04] <chris_> RamiKassab ill send it
[10:04] <chris_> :)
[10:04] <RamiKassab> chris_: that'd be great
[10:04] <garryfre> Geev8 and you drag and drop onto it and it says you don't have permissions?
[10:04] <RamiKassab> what exactly does crossover office do?
[10:04] <Madpilot> chris_, software piracy is always offtopic here...
[10:05] <spikeb> RamiKassab: it runs windows binaries
[10:05] <chris_> it emulates windows software you'll see
[10:05] <RamiKassab> spikeb: hmm, kind of like WINE tries to do?
[10:05] <spikeb> RamiKassab: exactly. crossover office is a commercial fork/variant of wine
[10:05] <chris_> get like microsft office in linux
[10:05] <polpak> RamiKassab: it uses wine. It's like a customized version of wine tailered to a specific set of windows apps
[10:05] <RamiKassab> spikeb: so it must support much more software eh
[10:05] <Geev8> Garryfre: yes that is the way i do
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> what is the default port that the built-in bittorrent client uses?
[10:05] <jago25_98> Anyone know why fglrx isn't modprob'ing on startup? It's in /etc/modules
[10:06] <spikeb> RamiKassab: im not sure about MORE, but it specifically targets certain applications (like MS Office, for example) and ensures they work
[10:06] <chris_> RamiKassab get it?
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: no, where you trying to send it?
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: do you have AIM?
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: I sent you a PM
[10:06] <chris_> i do have aim
[10:06] <chris_> :)
[10:06] <garryfre> geevb sec ...
[10:06] <chris_> aim sn kournikovaohyah
[10:06] <chris_> :)
[10:06] <RamiKassab> chris_: TopRamen3
[10:06] <spikeb> haha
[10:07] <spikeb> nice SN chris
[10:07] <RamiKassab> yeah lol
[10:07] <piphoe`> haha Gates is leaving MS in 2 years !!!  LONG  LIVE  LINUX !
[10:07] <chris_> ;) its gaim
[10:07] <chris_> not aim
[10:07] <chris_> :P
[10:07] <jago25_98> RamiKassab: what is MORE?
[10:07] <piphoe`> MS loses Linux wins
[10:08] <piphoe`> the wicked witchnerd is melting !
[10:08] <RamiKassab> jago25_98: what do you mean?
[10:08] <jago25_98> RamiKassab: because spikeb said `RamiKassab: im not sure about MORE, but it specifically targets certain applications (like MS Office, for example) and ensures they work`
[10:09] <spikeb> the real differences are that crossover and cedega make massive changes to ensure certain things work, while wine does things in a more general fashion.
[10:09] <garryfre> Geev8 Try making your line for /dev/fd0 look like this .... I t might work ... /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,uid=1000, umask=000,noauto  0       0
[10:09] <RamiKassab> jago25_98: oh I was asking since Crossover Office is commercial, does it support more Windows apps than WINE and that was his reply
[10:09] <protocol2> woo IU got 3d acceleration
[10:10] <protocol2> woo hoo*
[10:10] <jago25_98> ah so `MORE` = Crossover and cedega?
[10:10] <jago25_98> Anyone got ati? Anyone know why fglrx isn't modprob'ing on startup? It's in /etc/modules
[10:11] <RamiKassab> jago25_98: what's cedega?
[10:11] <spikeb> RamiKassab: cedega is a gaming focused commercial fork of wine
[10:11] <garryfre> Geev8 It is also possible that the file you are trying to copy thinks it is not owned by you and its priveleges don't allow non-owners to read it. Might try the command line cp command to copy the file to the mount point for your floppy as shown in /etc/fstab
[10:11] <RamiKassab> spikeb: oic
[10:12] <scacco[] > hi
[10:12] <remoteBoy> are there any good bittorrent clients for ubuntu that support rss?
[10:12] <someothernick> azureus
[10:13] <someothernick> i think it supports rss
[10:13] <someothernick> there a plugin
[10:14] <RamiKassab> spikeb: I appreciate the help brother
[10:14] <spikeb> RamiKassab: no problem :)
[10:15] <visham> hi folks!!
[10:15] <someothernick> hi
[10:15] <someothernick> hows the weather
[10:15] <visham> how do i make ubuntu to run faster on a 128 mb RAM
[10:16] <visham> how do i make ubuntu to run faster on a 128 mb RAM
[10:16] <Sashi> yp
[10:16] <Sashi> yo*
[10:16] <Sashi> should i use SunJava
[10:16] <Sashi> or Blackhawk
[10:17] <someothernick> more swap space? :/
[10:17] <Sashi> err blackdown*
[10:17] <visham> someothernick: my swap space is 300MB
[10:17] <spikeb> Sashi: probably sun, if you're on a 32bit pc
[10:17] <stc> someothernick, mkswap /dev/yourfreePartition
[10:17] <Sashi> kk
[10:18] <Madpilot> visham, get more RAM if you can - or run Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu
[10:18] <visham> Madpilot: ya i am running XFCE
[10:18] <visham> Madpilot: but i couldn't get the speed of RH9 which i was earlier using
[10:19] <mcpowley> hey guys, I think i'm having a problem with my nvidia drivers, I have a nvidia 7800GTX go, and in my device list it isn't listed by it's name but as Unknown (0x0099)
[10:19] <garryfre> !nvidia
[10:19] <someothernick> visham, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18751
[10:19] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:19] <Dial_tone> when I configure automatic login for gnome it still asks for pw; how do I pre-enter that? I live alone anyway.
[10:19] <mcpowley> and i have random graphical problems...and xgl wont work
[10:19] <visham> Madpilot:does shutting down unsused services increases the speed
[10:20] <IsDis4Me> I have a question, if I am using amule or some other p2p software, and my music is in my home folder, which is named after my username, could someone downloading from me get my username? Or is that hidden from them?
[10:20] <Madpilot> visham, it might, a little bit - but if  you check system monitor or top, most stuff that's idling is using very few resources anyway
[10:21] <Hit3k> IsDis4Me, i believe that is hidden
[10:21] <Sashi> erm
[10:21] <dsas> IsDis4Me: If the file sharing application shows the full folder name of the files, then possibly. nicotine for one will.
[10:21] <Sashi> whats the pacakge name for Java
[10:21] <Sashi> cant find it
[10:21] <dsas> !tell sashi about java
[10:22] <Madpilot> ...since when does Add/Remove Apps start without asking me for my password? I haven't used sudo in hours...
[10:22] <IsDis4Me> dsas what about amule?
[10:22] <McNutella> I guess it shoudl
[10:22] <IsDis4Me> and how would I check?
[10:22] <Sashi> wll
[10:22] <nanomad> is anyone having problems with compiz lately? on my X700 performance is horrible...
[10:22] <Sashi> well
[10:22] <visham> Madpilot:then wats the solution
[10:22] <teclis> Hello, does anyone know much about the ekiga-config? It's a little bit annoying that ekiga switches back to the soundcard, if the USB-headset is not connected.
[10:22] <Sashi> i treid that name
[10:22] <Sashi> doesnt wor
[10:22] <McNutella> Madpilot, security is fine isnt it :)
[10:22] <Madpilot> visham, "Buy more RAM" - aside from that, I'm afraid I don't know
[10:22] <maruchan> i wanted to do a freshinstall of dapper, however the new install thing makes you use live cd, and my resolution goes to 640x480 is there a way to install old school, or increase my resolution
[10:22] <dsas> IsDis4Me: I've never used it. When you download from other people can you see their folder names? If you can see theirs they can see yours
[10:23] <Madpilot> McNutella, yeah - very odd.
[10:23] <McNutella> Madpilot, I shouldnt worry though, perhaps there is a time out, and so there should be :)
[10:23] <Madpilot> maruchan, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[10:23] <dsas> maruchan: If you download the "alternative" cd if uses the old installer.
[10:23] <someothernick> marcels,  alternate install cd
[10:23] <IsDis4Me> dsas where would I look to see their folder names?
[10:23] <someothernick> opps
[10:23] <Sashi> !javadebs
[10:23] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[10:23] <someothernick> damn tab
[10:24] <garryfre> Useing the alternate cd will correct that. It asks you for the resolution you want t o use.
[10:24] <dsas> IsDis4Me: Sorry, I haven't a clue, I've never used it. I'm guessing you can search for files and maybe it shows up there
[10:24] <maruchan> hmm i dont know i want to install again, and madpillot the only resolution i can choose is 680
[10:24] <maruchan> i mean i dont know i want to download again
[10:24] <Geoffrey2> Sashi, i believe you need universe enabled to download Sun's Java package
[10:24] <garryfre> !fixres
[10:24] <Sashi> i got all repos enabled
[10:24] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:24] <Madpilot> McNutella, actually, it asks for your pw after you hit the Install button - clever - that's new to Dapper
[10:24] <dsas> Geoffrey2, Sashi: You need multiverse
[10:24] <IsDis4Me> dsas it just has a file ID which i s huge long string of alphanumerics
[10:24] <Geoffrey2> nope, mulitverse...my bad
[10:24] <Sashi> i got all repos enabled though
[10:25] <someothernick> maruchan, same happened to me after install i install fglrx driver fixed it
[10:25] <app> What is the best IRC client in Ubuntu officially supported
[10:25] <dsas> IsDis4Me: Well I can't say without using the application for definite. But if you can't see other peoples folders anywhere in the application, I guess they probably can't see yours.
[10:25] <maruchan> ahh okay
[10:25] <Madpilot> app, XChat
[10:25] <maruchan> all give that try thx
[10:25] <nanomad> app, xchat
[10:25] <medullaoblengata> hey, i just finished the install for ubuntu... and i cant get into Synaptic...
[10:25] <medullaoblengata> is there a default password?
[10:25] <dsas> app: xchat-gnome
[10:25] <nanomad> medullaoblengata, your user password
[10:25] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, use the pw you gave during installation
[10:26] <medullaoblengata> i have tried...
[10:26] <medullaoblengata> and i can log on with that password...
[10:26] <medullaoblengata> but i cant add/remove progs.
[10:26] <garryfre> That's too wierd medullaoblengata.
[10:26] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[10:26] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, odd. Open a terminal (Apps->accessories->terminal) and type 'groups' - is "admin" in the line you get?
[10:27] <garryfre> under users and groups make sure you have priveleges to use the scanner.
[10:27] <medullaoblengata> yes madpilot...
[10:27] <Sashi> umm
[10:27] <Sashi> anyone?
[10:27] <Toma-> garryfre, im in the scanner group
[10:27] <Sashi> i got all repos enabled..
[10:28] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, then your pw should work for Synaptic & Add/Remove Apps...
[10:28] <garryfre> Toma- There is also a user priveleges tab under properties for each user, besides the groups thing.
[10:28] <Madpilot> Sashi, if you're running Dapper & you have Multiverse enabled, you should see the Sun Java package...
[10:28] <Sashi> yea
[10:28] <Sashi> but i cant install it
[10:28] <medullaoblengata> =(
[10:29] <Toma-> garryfre, theyre all selected
[10:29] <Geoffrey2> Sashi, what happens when you try to install it?
[10:29] <Sashi> says sun-java5-bin
[10:29] <garryfre> Toma Hmmm, stumped me.
[10:29] <Sashi> package not found
[10:29] <jago25_98> A quick poll. How do you handle embedded media in webpages?
[10:29] <garryfre> !scanner
[10:29] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[10:30] <Toma-> garryfre, doh <:) thx anyway
[10:30] <Geoffrey2> Sashi, that means multiverse isn't enabled
[10:30] <Sashi> but it is! lol
[10:30] <garryfre> Toma- Well hopefully that link from ubotu will have some help for ye. Welcome.
[10:30] <Madpilot> Sashi, have you hit the Reload button in Synaptic, just to make sure your sources are up to date?
[10:30] <medullaoblengata> does anyone have any suggestions for what i should do?
[10:31] <medullaoblengata> "reformat"?
[10:31] <Sashi> http://pastebin.com/714472
[10:31] <Toma-> garryfre, been there 3 hrs ago :) thx
[10:31] <Sashi> thats my sources.list
[10:31] <Madpilot> medullaoblengata, check how you're spelling your password?
[10:31] <garryfre> say Toma- Ouch..
[10:31] <Toma-> *nod*
[10:31] <Madpilot> Sashi, you don't have Multiverse enabled
[10:32] <Toma-> i think udev should be shot out of a cannon into a brickwall.
[10:32] <Sashi> #
[10:32] <Sashi> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:32] <Sashi> is that it
[10:32] <Madpilot> Sashi, in line 17 & 18 of that pastebin, add 'multiverse' after 'universe'
[10:32] <Madpilot> Sashi, that's only the backports
[10:32] <Madpilot> which you don't really need
[10:33] <Toma-> lol 1300dpi scanner!!! 400mb image!!! WOOT
[10:33] <Madpilot> Sashi, check your sources.list against this stock one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[10:34] <medullaoblengata> ya, my password is definitely correct... iv logged in with it 3 times now
[10:34] <garryfre> Hmmm, I was thinking, maybe just force the writers of buggy components to have to use them.
[10:35] <Sashi> o and
[10:35] <Geoffrey2> garryfre, would it really help?  I mean, Bill Gates has used Windows for years and it hasn't helped matters :)
[10:35] <Sashi> how do i check apt-get pid
[10:35] <Sashi> i wanna kill it, cuz it says its in use yet it isnt
[10:35] <Ayabara> I have problems with networking on my ubuntu install being _slow_ . when I start up kget it dl's really fast for a couple of minutes, but then it decreases drastically. firefox is also slow
[10:35] <garryfre> Geoffrey2 Hehe. LoL, yeah.
[10:36] <Ayabara> apt-get is also running slow until it gives up
[10:36] <garryfre> Just goes to show that advertizing is more powerful than the bug.
[10:36] <Toma-> 5096x7000 pixel image.... hardcore RAM usage :(
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> what other bittorrent clients (other than azureus) do people like?
[10:37] <McNutella> !info xchat
[10:37] <LoneShadow> azureus :D
[10:37] <Toma-> btdownlaodcurses
[10:37] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 254 kB, Installed size: 720 kB
[10:37] <spikeb> i don't actually like ANY bittorrent client
[10:37] <spikeb> there are no good ones.
[10:37] <Geoffrey2> garryfre, I feel a Folgers commercial coming on...."We've secretly replaced the Windows operating system Bill Gates normally uses with Ubuntu Linux, let's see if he notices the difference" ;)
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> well which one do you hate the least?
[10:37] <spikeb> gnome-bittorrent
[10:37] <McNutella> spikeb, the problem i have is them not bein able to find what its lookin for
[10:37] <Ayabara> fyrestrtr: I like ktorrent
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> whatever it is that loads up with gnome -- I can't get it to show me any information on the trackers.
[10:37] <zOap> what is the difference between klogd and sysklogd?
[10:38] <spikeb> fyrestrtr: heh, it wont show you much of anything at all
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> ^ that being my chief complaint.
[10:38] <spikeb> which is probably why i dislike it the least - not much to screw up if you dont DO anything
[10:39] <garryfre> say Geoffrey2 I used to have a punching bag with a picture of bill gates on it in my office.
[10:39] <LoneShadow> where can I check why Xgl failed to load ? dont see any errors in /var/log/syslog
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> need something like utorrent for linux.
[10:39] <spikeb> fyrestrtr: there is an app called freeloader you can try
[10:39] <medullaoblengata> Utorrent is my favorite
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> LoneShadow: Xorg.0.log
[10:39] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[10:40] <xice> is digg.com working for anyone?
[10:40] <RamiKassab> hey what torrent client do you guys recommend? I'm not a big fan of Azureus really
[10:40] <LoneShadow> it dosnt show any Xgl/Compiz messages
[10:40] <spikeb> xice: works fine here
[10:40] <RamiKassab> I like BitLord for windows because it lets you control upload speeds
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> works fine here xice.
[10:40] <medullaoblengata> same here
[10:40] <RamiKassab> I don't like to have my upload speed too high because I have roommates
[10:40] <spikeb> you can use gnome's bt client to limit uploads
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> (that being the ONLY thing you can do in it)
[10:41] <garryfre> What happens if you try starting the apps with sudo xsane from a command line, does the scanner show?
[10:41] <LoneShadow> fyrestrtr: What can I check to see why Xgl is not loading ?
[10:42] <Madpilot> RamiKassab, gnome-torrent lets you throttle upload speeds & number of connections
[10:42] <RamiKassab> Madpilot: that should be built into Ubuntu already isn't it?
[10:42] <Toma-> garryfre, yeh
[10:42] <Madpilot> RamiKassab, yes
[10:42] <RamiKassab> Madpilot: ok I'll check it out, thanks!
[10:42] <Toma-> garryfre, which is the most puzzling part :(
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> LoneShadow: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:43] <SqR> Hey
[10:43] <LoneShadow> thanks
[10:43] <SqR> Does anyone know of any good GUI SCP clients? (( sorta like Gftp, where I can view my local files at one site, and the PC I've SSH'ed/SCP'ed to on the other
[10:43] <garryfre> Toma- Hmmm, maybe the bug is with the gui. Sounds like you will need to use a script to use those apps from the command line, via sudo.
[10:44] <garryfre> Toma- At least it works that way I hope.
[10:44] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I'm trying to configure my kernel with gconfig, but: "Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0.". what do i need?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> SqR: nautilus can do that.
[10:45] <SqR> fyrestrtr, It can?
[10:45] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: probably those files.  try libgtk+-2.0-dev
[10:45] <lukketto> SqR: yes it can
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> sure, Places -> Connect to server
[10:46] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, why i can't find it with apt-cache?
[10:46] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: search for libgtk dev
[10:46] <ppn> how do i record video in ubuntu?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> or just apt-cache search libgtk -- and you get libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:47] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, ii  libgtk1.2-dev                                        1.2.10-17build1                      Development files for the GIMP Toolkit
[10:47] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, ii  libgtk2.0-dev                                        2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1                     Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: that second one, yes
[10:47] <ossie> hello,
[10:47] <ppn> how do i record video in ubuntu?
[10:47] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: seeing as it was unable to find the GTK libraries before
[10:48] <Hobbsee> hey ossie
[10:48] <Toma-> ppn, video from what?
[10:48] <margita> hallo
[10:48] <Hobbsee> ppn: please dont repeat
[10:48] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, how?
[10:48] <ppn> sorry, i meant video from the screen.
[10:48] <ossie> hi Hobbsee ive gone and made a big mistake, I ran a chmod 777 on a folder that had a soft link to my / filesystem
[10:49] <Hobbsee> ossie: ouch
[10:49] <ompaul> ossie, that is a pretty bad mistake
[10:49] <ossie> now i cant get ssh into the box opr anything
[10:49] <Alex_BO> ossie, that's a huge problems...
[10:49] <Toma-> ppn, xscreencap i think....
[10:49] <Toma-> or xvidcap
[10:49] <Toma-> cant remember
[10:49] <ossie> its not the 1st time ive done it either im a cluts like that
[10:49] <ompaul> ossie, you need something like a live cd and los of time
[10:49] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, how?
[10:49] <ompaul> ossie, in that case get the hense to endless formatting
[10:49] <ossie> is there nuthing to restire defualt perms
[10:50] <enyc> ossie: ?did you 'chmod 777 [target]  -R' ?
[10:50] <ossie> yes
[10:50] <ossie> :(
[10:50] <enyc> oh
[10:50] <stc> hi
[10:50] <SqR> fyrestrtr, Cheers :D
[10:50] <enyc> well you shee there aro so many things all over the place....
[10:50] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[10:50] <enyc> this is the problems....
[10:50] <stc> i have this bug on my dapper: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3050
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> SqR: np
[10:51] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version.
[10:51] <ompaul> ossie, allow me to repeat, find the install cd and start again, and Stay away from commands that you break your system with or at least test them on  a few test files and directories
[10:51] <ossie> so guys, the general view is that i am SCREWED ???? :)
[10:51] <ossie> cheers ompaul
[10:52] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: grabbed libglib2.0-dev and libglade0-dev too?
[10:52] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, yes
[10:52] <Hobbsee> Alex_BO: i dont know then, it should work
[10:52] <Alex_BO> Hobbsee, good =D
[10:53] <myworld122> i was trying to install vmware player and it seems that i have to install linux-headers-kernel version....do I need to add new repo to get this because terminal says that Couldn't find package linux-headers-kernel version
[10:53] <ppn> Tomma: can't find xvidcap or xscreencap in synaptic :(
[10:53] <McNutella> anyone here know how to switch thunderbird to offline mode please?
[10:53] <myworld122> anyone with any help?
[10:54] <crimsun_> myworld122: you probably mean linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:54] <JRW_> got a question. I have a desktop using FC5, but am setting up a server on an older pentium3. Would Ubuntu be a good choice (its mainly for mail, host a page or two, irc and ftp). Also, does Ubuntu use a package manager for installs/downloads, and a gui (I would be lost with console only)
[10:54] <myworld122> crimsun_: so if im using ubuntu..what do i need to change?
[10:55] <crimsun_> myworld122: (why don't you use the version in multiverse?)
[10:55] <ppn> Is there any software which can be installed on ubuntu to capture video from the screen?
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> JRW_: you can use ubuntu (or really, any distro) for that. With ubuntu, I would recommend you install the 'server' build first, then only install what you need. Its a lot easier than installing the entire desktop, and then deleting stuff.
[10:56] <dli> ppn, you want to make a video from screenshot?
[10:56] <myworld122> crimsun_: so i just search for linux-headers-$(uname -r) in synaptic?
[10:56] <crimsun_> myworld122: sure.
[10:56] <sanal> hi
[10:56] <myworld122> crimsun_: thanks!
[10:56] <crimsun_> myworld122: but are you trying to install vmware player from multiverse?
[10:56] <ppn> actually i want to cut and paste video clips or video editing
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> JRW_: might also want to see libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:57] <JRW_> ok. thanks guys
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> JRW_: gah, wrong paste. See http://www.ubuntu.com/server :)
[10:57] <myworld122> crimsun_: nope...i was trying to follow this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160760&highlight=linux-headers-kernel+version
[10:57] <JRW_> ok. cheers :)
[10:57] <dli> ppn, try transcode , mencoder (mplayer) , avidumex
[10:58] <dli> ppn, sorry, avidemux
[10:58] <crimsun_> myworld122: vmware player is in multiverse
[10:58] <JRW_> so - is there a package manager for downloading and installing driver updates/software etc?
[10:59] <myworld122> crimsun_: ok! thanks
[10:59] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[10:59] <Toma-> JRW_, what drivers?
[10:59] <Consty> I dont believe this is ubuntu related, but for some reason when I hold the power button on my laptop it reboots instead of turns off.. When I shutdown with ubuntu it reboots.  I upgraded my ram on this laptop and I'm thinking it has something to do with that
[11:00] <JRW_> none in particular... but for example, on FC5 I use livna to get nvidia drivers
[11:00] <Consty> However I've tried removing the memory and such and it still happens
[11:00] <Toma-> Consty, wacky bios settings?
[11:00] <JRW_> consty - it will be an option in the bios
[11:00] <Healot> JRW_: livna's a good helper
[11:00] <Consty> Nah I've looked, there's no power management stuff in the bios
[11:00] <Healot> but their solutions sometime, don't work out of the box
[11:01] <ppn> dli: I will explain my problem more clearly. I have a video clip of length 1 hr and i want cut a 5min portion of it and save it in a seperate file. Can i do that?
[11:01] <JRW_> thats true (I had dramas with ntfs support... because FC doesnt support it out of hte box)
[11:01] <dli> ppn, try transcode , mencoder (mplayer) , avidemux
[11:01] <graveson> ppn: what kind of format
[11:02] <ppn> graveson: mpg
[11:02] <JRW_> Consty - there should be something about power in there, even if it talks about power saving (its usually at the bottom of that). what bios do you use?
[11:03] <graveson> ppn: mencoder is your best bet .avidemux is for avi files. transcode seems to be confusing unless you can fnd your way around the documentation or endless options
[11:03] <myworld122> crimsun_: i've finished installing vmware-player. but now when i try to run Windows version of QEMU, i got this error wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\qemu-img.exe": Module not found
[11:03] <crimsun_> myworld122: I don't use, either.
[11:04] <Toma-> ppn, cinelerra is a video editing suite, pretty hardcore, but itll chop your video to how you want
[11:04] <myworld122> anybody can help with this?
[11:04] <Toma-> !info cinelerra
[11:04] <Toma-> ahhh what is it...
[11:05] <Juhaz> JRW_, the multiverse repo tends to have stuff that would be in livna on fc. and ubuntu is bit less strict about Free software so things like ati and nvidia drivers that can be legally distributed but are proprietary are included with the distro
[11:05] <JRW_> ah. ok thankyou heaps for that Juhaz. will give it a go
[11:05] <GabyRox> so wat's up?
[11:05] <Toma-> ppn, http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[11:06] <dli> Toma-, is cinelerra in ubuntu?
[11:06] <Toma-> dli, sadly, no. im off to motu to report it tho!
[11:06] <GabyRox> gut548:'gibdj578
[11:07] <graveson> what can i use to create a secure FTP server on my desktop
[11:08] <Healot> vsftpd?
[11:08] <Healot> !info vsftpd
[11:08] <ubotu> vsftpd: (The Very Secure FTP Daemon), section net, is extra. Version: 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[11:09] <Unintentional> hey, I want to execute a command that would generate a log file and e-mail that log file to me.  postfix is the right program to do that kind of stuff, right?
[11:09] <Unintentional> the e-mail part, I mean.
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> Unintentional: no, you'd need something like sendmail for that.
[11:10] <Unintentional> fyrestrtr: what is it that postfix does then?
[11:10] <Healot> !info postfix
[11:10] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is optional. Version: 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 901 kB, Installed size: 2172 kB
[11:10] <Juhaz> sounds like you're trying to reinvent logwatch
[11:10] <Toma-> Ive got some scanner permission problems. Scanner works totally fine as root, but neither xsane or scanimage -L shows the scanner. Ive set 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/001/002' which is my scanners usb bus and still no love. Any tips?
[11:10] <Juhaz> !info logwatch
[11:10] <ubotu> logwatch: (log analyser with nice output written in Perl), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 7.1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 212 kB, Installed size: 1716 kB
[11:11] <Unintentional> !info sendmail
[11:11] <ubotu> sendmail: (powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 8.13.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 188 kB, Installed size: 244 kB
[11:11] <Healot> both are MTAs
[11:11] <Unintentional> so, matter of preference then?
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Unintentional: yeap, and how familiar you are with configuring the MTA of choice.
[11:12] <Unintentional> completely unfamiliar with both.
[11:12] <Healot> for deamon mail... sendmail is my preference
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Unintentional: go with logwatch then.
[11:13] <Scorpmoon> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch between Workspaces?
[11:14] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow|Right Arrow
[11:14] <Unintentional> Scorpmoon: Go to System -> Preference -
[11:14] <Unintentional> > Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:14] <Pitersburgs> hi guys, which package contains default volumes for each ALSA module aka sound card?
[11:15] <Pitersburgs> alsa-common itself?
[11:15] <Sonofaq> msg nickserv register tamiya23$
[11:15] <assasukasse> hi did anyone try kernel 686 on pentium centrino M? it is faster or slower than 386
[11:16] <Sonofaq> nickserv
[11:16] <Sonofaq> msg nikserv
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> Sonofaq: might want to change your password.
[11:16] <Healot> assasukasse: it is optimized, not sure about speed though, but you should see more performance
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> Sonofaq: you need a /
[11:16] <Sonofaq> yeah i just muck up
[11:16] <Sonofaq> ow yeah
[11:17] <Scorpmoon> what is the difference between Mark for Removal and Mark for complete removal?
[11:17] <Scorpmoon> complete = with purge?
[11:17] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, complete dumps all the config files & such too
[11:17] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: yes
[11:18] <Healot> remove and --purge
[11:18] <Scorpmoon> which one is recommended
[11:18] <Toma-> Anyone care to help with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15853
[11:18] <Toma-> #ubuntu-devel
[11:18] <Toma-> oops
[11:19] <Healot> set the file permission to 666 via sudo
[11:19] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: i personally use complete removal most of the time
[11:19] <neutrinomass> Toma-: Maybe you don't belong to the scanners group ?
[11:19] <Scorpmoon> ok
[11:19] <Toma-> neutrinomass, i do
[11:19] <Scorpmoon> where is the builtin firefox installed? I need to remove some search plugins
[11:19] <s0nix> hi
[11:20] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox or maybe just /usr/lib/firefox
[11:20] <zOap> is there a special reason to why the update manager don't move all kernel modules to the new kernel when updating? it didn't move shfsmount.. had to install it again
[11:21] <Chousuke> zOap: the old modules don't work with the new kernel
[11:21] <Chousuke> zOap: any custom modules will have to be recompiled.
[11:21] <zOap> Chousuke, I know. but I seem to recall that with the last update I didn't have to install it over.. maybe my memory is fooling me :)
[11:21] <zOap> Chousuke, ok, thanks :)
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> where i find direcory of C header files?
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> where i find direcory of C header file hat match your running kernel?
[11:22] <igorzolnikov> where i find direcory of C header file that match your running kernel?
[11:23] <spikeb> damn it
[11:23] <spikeb> type it right the first time.
[11:23] <Scorpmoon> spikeb, searchplugins is placed in /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins, why is that? what do it share with
[11:23] <spikeb> Scorpmoon: probably across every user's firefox
[11:23] <Chousuke> Scorpmoon: it's shared with all users.
[11:24] <fluxy> Hello People. I need help getting a game to work with wine, anyone having experience can please help me?
[11:25] <mrDaniel> is here anyone with good experience on acpi and intel ASL compiler?
[11:25] <Scorpmoon> how do I unpack rar files
[11:25] <|mp|> after updating from beta to final dapper the /etc/network/interfaces is missing bits and wlan0 does not appear anywhere, although ndiswrapper -l says: driver loaded, hardware present - ??
[11:25] <assasukasse> fluxy go to #winehq
[11:25] <fluxy> thanks
[11:26] <fluxy> Scorpmoon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rar
[11:26] <bigfoot1> what is difference between "firefox %u" and just "firefox"?
[11:27] <bilss> hi
[11:27] <igorzolnikov> i install vmware... help me with... What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[11:28] <igorzolnikov> i have not /usr/src/linux/include
[11:28] <fluxy> bigfoot> Try firefox www.google.com and just firefox in a terminal
[11:28] <bilss> need some help as to why ssh keeps dropping after i had have not used labtop for a hour or so
[11:28] <forbidden> hi
[11:29] <Sonofaq> hi
[11:29] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:29] <nox-Hand> How would I install a new font in Ubuntu? Like, can I use .ttf fonts from Dafont.com?
[11:29] <bilss> ompaul: good morning
[11:29] <forbidden> i've got a little problem in ubuntu can i say it ?
[11:29] <Sonofaq> yeah go mat
[11:29] <ompaul> Bilange, your nick changes more than the weather ;-)
[11:30] <ompaul> Bilss, your nick changes more than the weather ;-)
[11:30] <ompaul> Bilange, the tab got me
[11:30] <Sonofaq> go for it forbidden
[11:30] <fluxy> forbidden>channel rules, do not ask if u can ask a question, jus ask
[11:30] <bilss> ompaul: nice one but ye you correct weather haha
[11:30] <Scorpmoon> unrar is not in multiverse repository
[11:30] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: it is ...
[11:30] <crimsun_> !info unrar
[11:31] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[11:31] <bilss> need some help as to why ssh keeps dropping after i had have not used labtop for a hour or so
[11:31] <Scorpmoon> what does it mean it is non-free, i have to pay for it?
[11:31] <ompaul> run a ping through the tunnel
[11:31] <RajaSekhar> @<nox-Hand> You can install .ttf fonts. Just Create a folder in .fonts directory in ur home diretory and copy ur .ttf files to that folder.. It justs work to view language websites on firefox
[11:31] <bilss> which tunnel?
[11:31] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell Scorpmoon about components
[11:32] <|mp|> Scorpmoon: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
[11:32] <nox-Hand> RajaSekhar, What if I need some fonts for...say Gimp?
[11:32] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: You will not have to pay for it.
[11:32] <ompaul> bilss, the ssh one - when your not active do this "ping -i 57 some_ip_that_won't_mind"
[11:32] <RajaSekhar> Hmm I am not sure if that works for that also... Just give it a try
[11:33] <ompaul> bilss, every 57 seconds it will send one ping packet and so maybe keep the session open
[11:33] <nox-Hand> RajaSekhar, like, /home/nox/.fonts/<font>.ttf, right? Then reload something, or..
[11:33] <bilss> ompaul: i connect or try to connect from work useing a win box with putty
[11:33] <RajaSekhar> Thats it.. I did restart of firefox
[11:34] <jksd> hi, does the update program include security updates?
[11:34] <forbidden> ok , so today i've installated ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386 on my pc, at on a point it was asking me to put a password , but no username , something like " put a password for the new username..." but i didn't put any username , i've put a password and the instalation go on ... so when the instalation finished , i've tried to login but there was asking me for a username, i've tried " root, username, new, newuser" nothing worked ...
[11:34] <nox-Hand> RajaSekhar, Cheers
[11:34] <forbidden> i put the same password to the usernames taht i've tried
[11:34] <neutrinomass> forbidden: Not sure what went wrong. You can boot from grub's rescue mode though and add a user ... (man useradd)
[11:35] <forbidden> and sorry abaout my english
[11:35] <Sonofaq> forbidden root wont work on gui because its not allowed
[11:35] <bilss> some_ip_that_won''t_mind?
[11:35] <neutrinomass> bilss: Google ?
[11:35] <forbidden> ok i will try now what neutrinomass told me
[11:36] <forbidden> thanks
[11:36] <ompaul> bilss, your isp the box itself
[11:36] <skip> how hot are people's HDD's?
[11:36] <Scorpmoon> the only 2 packages Synaptic find after adding Universe and Multiverse repositories are comix and unrar-free
[11:36] <Scorpmoon> i don't find unrar
[11:36] <ompaul> bilss, providing the isp does not mind
[11:36] <Sonofaq> skip what you mean by that
[11:36] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: Did you reload ? (or sudo apt-get update)
[11:36] <bilss> ompaul: from my work  from putty at work you mean
[11:36] <Scorpmoon> yes i did reload
[11:37] <Scorpmoon> i search for "unrar"
[11:37] <skip> Sonofaq, I mean at what temperature are most people's HDD's running?
[11:37] <bilss> as in ping -i 57 myisp of my box
[11:37] <Sonofaq> ummm hang on i'll measure mine
[11:37] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: You sure youa dded the repos correctly ? The repos themselves, not their backports/updates/security/whatever ...
[11:37] <Unintentional> hey, what's the difference between '>' and '>>' in a command?
[11:37] <neutrinomass> Unintentional: AFAIK > redirects standard output, >> standard error
[11:38] <ompaul> bilss, in the ssh session in the little terminal type >> ping -i 57 127.0.0.1
[11:38] <Scorpmoon> neutrinomass,  i have all repos activated  except the two LTS Security in the bottom
[11:38] <Unintentional> neutrinomass: thanks.
[11:38] <neutrinomass> Unintentional: Don't take my word for it, likely to be wrong.
[11:38] <Frogzoo> neutrinomass: man bash
[11:38] <Sonofaq> skip: mines a seagate 160gb 8mb cache and its aabout a couple of degrease C
[11:39] <bilss> ompaul:ok i will do that now
[11:39] <skip> Sonofaq, why is it so cold?
[11:39] <neutrinomass> Frogzoo: Yes, of course :)
[11:40] <neutrinomass> Unintentional: > redirects std output to a file and >> appends standard output to a file
[11:40] <Sonofaq> i dont know my last hard drive which i had to send back was a Western digital cavalier and that ran hot, but this ones well cool
[11:40] <Sonofaq> i do have plenty of cooling though
[11:40] <jksd> is it safe to upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS through software updates?
[11:40] <Scorpmoon> i just found out what LTS means.. it means Long Term Betatester
[11:41] <skip> jksd, I tried it on my laptop and it killed my xorg as well as a few other critical settings
[11:41] <Unintentional> neutrinomass: what do I do if I want to redirect both stdout and stderr?
[11:41] <Ilokaasu> skip: i had same problems, fresh install worked
[11:41] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, you want to have the security repos enabled, btw
[11:41] <jksd> skip: OK, thanks
[11:41] <jksd> skip: I'd better give it a miss
[11:41] <bilss> ompaul: after i have done it minimise the box and just leave it there? or close it?
[11:41] <skip> jksd, that doesn't mean it won't work for you
[11:41] <neutrinomass> Unintentional:  &>
[11:42] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, now i have all repos activated possible.. still no unrar
[11:42] <jksd> skip: not sure if I want to risk it
[11:42] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, it's in Multiverse
[11:42] <skip> jksd, better to be safe than sorry
[11:42] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:42] <jksd> when a new kernel is updates does it mess with the grub menu.lst file at all?
[11:42] <jksd> skip: yeah
[11:43] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Backports Non-free (multiverse) right?
[11:43] <Sonofaq> hi linuxboyfriend
[11:43] <jksd> updates/updated
[11:43] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: Not backports !
[11:43] <Scorpmoon> i don't have others in my list
[11:43] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, not backports, the main repos
[11:43] <Scorpmoon> do I need to add something?
[11:43] <linuxboyfriend> my system suddenly stop automatically reccognizing devices like flash, cdrom?
[11:43] <linuxboyfriend> Sonofaq, hi
[11:43] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell Scorpmoon about universe
[11:43] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, yes, you need to edit your sources again
[11:43] <jksd> skip: I updated the kernel and I can't get into win anymore through the same grub entry that I had before
[11:44] <Scorpmoon> now i forgot which repositories i had enabled from start :(
[11:44] <Unintentional> neutrinomass: thanks again.
[11:44] <skip> jksd, perhaps your drives have been assigned differently
[11:44] <b14ck> how can i login as root? what is the default?
[11:44] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell b14ck about root
[11:45] <mneptok> 'allo, users
[11:45] <Sonofaq> b14ck are you trying to log into root on gui
[11:46] <Zyclop> where do I get mplayer for dapper?
[11:46] <mneptok> Zyclop: Synaptic
[11:46] <Scorpmoon> if I add ONE repository with all 4 flags checked, do I need to have the other repos active with just one flag?
[11:46] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that device detection matter?
[11:46] <abo> anyone knows how to use convert?
[11:46] <Zyclop> mneptok: it's not in the repositorys
[11:46] <b14ck> Sonofaq:  i want to change the default mounting and rw option of a new partition. i don't know how to do that by command lines
[11:46] <jksd> skip: yeah I think that's it
[11:46] <AskHL> jksd, the kernel update yesterday appears to have stored a backup of menu.lst, called menu.lst~ . Perhaps you should inspect that
[11:47] <mneptok> Zyclop: do you have Multiverse enabled?
[11:47] <jksd> AskHL: nah, no luck in ~, but I just found a _backup file which should work
[11:47] <jksd> thanks skip, AskHL
[11:47] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, no, you need all three types of repos (the main one, updates & security) and main/restricted/universe/multiverse enabled for all three
[11:47] <siriusly>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY haven
[11:47] <Sonofaq> b14ck if your logged in as your normal user you use a command in terminal called sudo and just give me a minute i will get a weppage for mounting
[11:47] <mneptok> b14ck: read up on fstab
[11:47] <abo> I need to increase the compression ratio of  jpeg files, anyone knows how can this be done (either by convert or another way)
[11:48] <Zyclop> mneptok: probably, this new design is quite confusing
[11:48] <Madpilot> siriusly, time to change your freenode password :)
[11:48] <Sonofaq> lol
[11:48] <B1zz> lol
[11:48] <b14ck> Sonofaq:  i know but i don't know the com
[11:48] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, that's a very complicated system
[11:48] <bilss> ompaul: so if i ping from a remote host whith this at the terminal ping -i 57 myiboxisp it wakes it up?
[11:48] <mneptok> b14ck: fstab
[11:48] <Scorpmoon> not to mention Synaptic jumps in scroll everytime I uncheck something
[11:48] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, not really. Just go thru the repo window and check everything :)
[11:48] <Sonofaq> b14ck just give me a min i will find the webpage i used
[11:48] <b14ck> mneptok:  i have changed that command line to match tho other partitions but it won't work. i have changed the mountpoint
[11:49] <Scorpmoon> I can't overwrite my searchplugins.. i get a security error
[11:49] <b14ck> mneptok:  it mounts read only
[11:49] <Scorpmoon> do I need to login as root?
[11:49] <mneptok> b14ck: when you make an entry for it in fstab?
[11:49] <Sonofaq> b14ck read this  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[11:50] <linuxboyfriend> ubot, tell me about hal
[11:50] <b14ck> Sonofaq: ok
[11:50] <b14ck> mneptok: one sec
[11:50] <Bacta> giddigy giddigy goo
[11:50] <linuxboyfriend> ubot, tell linuxboyfriend about hal
[11:50] <Zyclop> mneptok: yup, it wasn't activatet. thx
[11:50] <linuxboyfriend> ubot, tell linuxboyfriend about hald
[11:50] <neutrinomass> linuxboyfriend: You can /msg ubotu as well, you know ;)
[11:50] <Bacta> giddigy giddigy giddigy giddigy lets have sex
[11:50] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, which search plugins? You shouldn't ever have to 'login as root', btw
[11:50] <Madpilot> Bacta, quit that, or leave, thanks
[11:50] <b14ck> mneptok: ok this is the default line for my first partition /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:51] <linuxboyfriend> neutrinomass, i am experimenting :)
[11:51] <igorzolnikov> hi! how i can install opengl?
[11:51] <b14ck> mneptok:  i changed it for the new partition as: /dev/hda8 /media/hda8  ext2 defaults,rw,uid=b14ck 0 0
[11:51] <B1zz> hmmm schools out......
[11:51] <B1zz> i take it we gonna be getting more of those more oftern
[11:51] <b14ck> mneptok:  or exactly as the first one but with mountpoins changed for the hda8
[11:51] <bilss> its not doing anything ssh does not recognise the word ping
[11:51] <Sonofaq> igorzolnikov: what graphics card you got
[11:52] <mneptok> b14ck: is it fat32, ext2, or ext3?
[11:52] <igorzolnikov> nvidia geforce 6200
[11:52] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, firefox searchplugins
[11:52] <b14ck> mneptok: ext2
[11:52] <guzu> hello all
[11:53] <b14ck> mneptok:  the new one is ext2 and i have changed that too
[11:53] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, I don't run FF - what's the trouble with your plugins?
[11:53] <guzu> does 504 support is nics ne 200 compatible?
[11:53] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, how do I copy files using GUI file manager using sudo?
[11:53] <Sonofaq> igorzolnikov i think theres full linuix drivers on the nvidea webby
[11:53] <guzu> s/is/isa
[11:53] <Scorpmoon> Madpilot, I just need to delete them
[11:53] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: from a terminal,  you can do "gksudo nautilus"
[11:53] <dibblego> performing a ls in my home directory is taking an unusually long time - why?
[11:53] <Scorpmoon> i really have to do everything from terminal
[11:54] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, FF's options should be in .mozilla
[11:54] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: alt+f2 and "gksudo nautilus" then :)
[11:54] <igorzolnikov> Sonofaq how i can install full drivers?
[11:54] <Scorpmoon> when will linux become a true GUI OS
[11:54] <threat> Scorpmoon, it is
[11:54] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[11:55] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: (or by exploiting a known bug in disk-admin) System->Administration->Disks->Browse
[11:55] <Sonofaq> hang on its all on the nvidea page heres the basic linux drivers age have a look around and there is plenty on google http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[11:55] <mneptok> b14ck: you want "/dev/hda8 /media/hda8 ext2 defaults 1 2"
[11:55] <Madpilot> Scorpmoon, it's getting closer
[11:55] <threat> Scorpmoon, it all depends on your definition of GUI
[11:55] <mneptok> b14ck: and ensure the mount point has the correct permissions
[11:55] <Scorpmoon> well, I come from windows world (obviously)
[11:55] <mneptok> wtf is a "true GUI OS?"
[11:55] <Sonofaq> igorzolnikov IA32= 32bit machine Ia64 = 64 bit machine
[11:55] <bilss> ompaul: ah you or i do not understand its not "keeping the session open" its always timing out if i connect from a remote host if i have been away from labtop more than an hour I cannot connect
[11:56] <Scorpmoon> not having to write console commands occasionally
[11:56] <b14ck> mneptok: mountpoint is on root filesys so it requires sudo
[11:56] <neutrinomass> mneptok: I guess one in which you can remove gnome-terminal and still be able to do everything you want ?
[11:56] <Anarqi> what is the boot line to run on live cd to boot into console instead of x
[11:56] <mneptok> b14ck: so change the permissions with chown
[11:56] <dibblego> Scorpmoon, you have to use the console in Windows as well, unless you restrict yourself to a very small subset of what it is capable of
[11:56] <Scorpmoon> i don't recall a task i have to do from console
[11:57] <dibblego> then you don't do many tasks
[11:57] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[11:57] <b14ck> mneptok: chown?
[11:57] <Sonofaq> lol
[11:57] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: dude, only MSCEs (Must Consult Someone Experienced) need a GUI for everything. learn to love the command line. it's the most powerful tool on the machine.
[11:57] <Scorpmoon> useability is the word i believe
[11:57] <bilss> ompaul; its not about keeping the remote open its about connecting in the first place i cannot if my labtop has not been active for an hour
[11:57] <Anarqi> speaking of command line,....what is the boot line to run on live cd to boot into console instead of x
[11:57] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: except most people spell it "usability"
[11:58] <Scorpmoon> see, you know about it already
[11:58] <mneptok> b14ck: what is your UNIX username?
[11:58] <dibblego> my 5 year old finds Ubuntu more usable than Windows
[11:58] <Scorpmoon> after you set it up for him/her, sure
[11:58] <dibblego> clearly demonstrating that "usability" is a personal thing
[11:58] <Scorpmoon> i also set Ubuntu up for my wife
[11:58] <b14ck> mneptok:  same as here
[11:58] <Sonofaq> Anarqi do you want to boot or just select by ctrl alt f1
[11:58] <dibblego> erm no, he puts the DVD in and presses on
[11:58] <Anarqi> to boot
[11:58] <Sonofaq> ok
[11:59] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: just because my car doesn;t steer itself and present me with a GUI dialog box and an animated paper clip when i want to change the oil doesn;t mean it's not a usable vehicle.
[11:59] <Anarqi> x isnt configged right by default
[11:59] <neutrinomass> Scorpmoon: This is rather offtopic. Btw, I don't think any 5 year olds can format + install windows anyway ..
[11:59] <aeon17x> !realplayer
[11:59] <strode> how do i get rid of the automatic update icon in tray keep appearing when I dont want specified updates?
[11:59] <ubotu> hmm... realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:59] <dsas> would you mind going to #ubuntu-offtopic guys?
[11:59] <Scorpmoon> i knew i was going to get bashed saying the w word :)
[11:59] <mneptok> b14ck: sudo chown -R b14ck:b1ack /media/hda8
[11:59] <b14ck> mneptok: k
[12:00] <b14ck> mneptok: thanx
[12:00] <popS> Would someone spare some time and help a new user (me) of ubuntu with som network issues?
[12:00] <dibblego> Scorpmoon, your ignorance is shining - is the point, why not save it until you can present an informed opinion for both sides?
[12:00] <dsas> !coc
[12:00] <Scorpmoon> m'kay
[12:00] <ubotu> methinks coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:00] <Madpilot> dibblego, cool it
[12:01] <popS> Or am I in the wrong place?
[12:01] <dibblego> I'm cool - I like being told when I am out of order - I realise others don't
[12:01] <mneptok> popS: no one can answer an unasked question
[12:01] <Madpilot> popS, no, you're in the right place - best to ask a more detailed question, though.
[12:01] <popS> So I just post it?
[12:01] <neutrinomass> popS: This is the right place. Describe your issue and be patient - if people dont respond, they're not ignoring you, they don't know.
[12:02] <Anarqi> neutrino seems no one knows the answer to my question
[12:02] <popS> ok, thank you: My problem is, that network is working fine for a couple of days, then it stops working. looks like the machine stops asking for an IP from the router
[12:03] <mneptok> popS: sounds like dhclient isn;t renewing your lease
[12:03] <assasukasse> how can i tweak laptop mode in order to have the maximum battery life?
[12:03] <lukketto> pops: did you control the router settings and dhcp?
[12:03] <neutrinomass> Anarqi: Then you can try the forums, the ubuntu-users mailing list etc.
[12:03] <popS> Maybe. how do I check that?
[12:03] <mneptok> popS: sudo /sbin/dhclient
[12:04] <graveson> how do i add scripts to gnome
[12:04] <popS> Ok, thank you, Ill look into it. but should it be renewing when reboot?
[12:04] <popS> or rather shutdown and restarted
[12:04] <mneptok> popS: add that line to /etc/rc.local
[12:04] <Anarqi> what is the "boot" parameter for the ubuntu live cd to boot to console rather than it even trying to boot into gdm
[12:05] <Toma-> anyone know any decent file system cleaning programs? I have alot of OLD files and apps i need to get rid of. already run debfoster and deborphan and purged all old configs with synaptic. Any other space saving tips?
[12:05] <popS> the router is set to give the same ip to this nic
[12:06] <neutrinomass> Toma-: You might want to delete what's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:06] <Toma-> apt-get clean has been run several times :)
[12:06] <popS> Ok, Ill look into the dhcp-client thing. That sound right. Thanks a lot for the help. Hope to repay some day!
[12:07] <Anarqi> apt-get autoclean
[12:07] <mneptok> popS: that's OK. i get paid. :)
[12:07] <neutrinomass> mneptok: Canonical  ? :)
[12:07] <mneptok> neutrinomass: aye
[12:08] <neutrinomass> mneptok: Must be fun :D Getting paid to talk about Linux in IRC
[12:08] <mneptok> neutrinomass: indoor work. no heavy lifting.
[12:08] <mneptok> neutrinomass: and "fun" rather depends on your defintion of the word :)
[12:09] <axisme> hm, did that latest set of updates break gnome network manager for anyone else?
[12:09] <neutrinomass> mneptok: Well it's better than working as support for people with viruses :P And surely better than dozens of other jobs that come to mind
[12:10] <Scorpmoon> I install a plugin called SearchPluginHacks in firefox, so I can delete searchplugins by rightclicking them.. however this doesn't work, as the search plugins are restricted to root
[12:10] <neutrinomass> axisme: network-admin ?
[12:10] <axisme> sorry?
[12:11] <mneptok> axisme: still works here. have you tried removing and re-installing network-manager-gnome ?
[12:11] <axisme> downloaded loads of updates this morning, rebooted for new kernel and then no worky
[12:11] <axisme> but i just went into networking
[12:11] <neutrinomass> axisme: What exactly do you mean by network manager? System->Administration->Networking, System->Administration->Network Tools ?
[12:11] <axisme> the default one
[12:11] <axisme> and enabled there and thats how i got lan working
[12:11] <neutrinomass> axisme: Yeah, that's "network-admin" in gnome-talk....
[12:12] <axisme> ah ok
[12:12] <neutrinomass> axisme: Still works here though :-/
[12:12] <axisme> in apt-get i think it was network manager
[12:12] <Scorpmoon> what chmod / chown do I give to /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins to allow firefox itself to delete these?
[12:12] <neutrinomass> axisme: NetworkManager is another program ;) How exactly did it break ?
[12:12] <mneptok> axisme: network-manager is a GUI tool for 802.11x discovery
[12:13] <axisme> well, it still connects to the wireless or eth0
[12:13] <axisme> but no traffic gets sent
[12:13] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: what's your UNIX username?
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> scorpmoon
[12:13] <neutrinomass> axisme: Could it be a DNS issue? Can you resolve hostnames ?
[12:13] <Scorpmoon> the login
[12:13] <dibblego> axisme, your WEP/WPA key is probably incorrect
[12:13] <axisme> cant ping IP addys either
[12:14] <axisme> dibblego..no..it connects to the wireless fine
[12:14] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: sudo chown -R root:scorpmoon /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins
[12:14] <axisme> just doesn't do anything from there
[12:14] <dibblego> axisme, right, so your key is probably incorrect
[12:14] <axisme> erm no
[12:14] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: sudo chmod 664 /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins/*
[12:14] <axisme> that wouldn't expplain why eth0 wouldn't work  ;-)
[12:15] <Scorpmoon> thx
[12:15] <mneptok> np
[12:15] <axisme> i think i will try reinstall the gnome networking stuff
[12:15] <mneptok> axisme: what does ifconfig tell you?
[12:16] <Scorpmoon> mneptop, that * in the end, wont it only change the chmod for the files in there now? what about future files
[12:16] <mneptok> axisme: does eth0 have an IP assigned? is the netmask correct?
[12:16] <axisme> well i'm connected on eth0 now because i enabled it in Networking
[12:16] <axisme> but before the updates the network manager did that for me
[12:16] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: it should respect the permissions of the parent directory
[12:16] <Scorpmoon> ok
[12:17] <axisme> brb
[12:17] <Scorpmoon> mneptok, still can't delete them though
[12:18] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: ls -la /usr/share/firefox/searchplugins
[12:18] <mneptok> Scorpmoon: paste the rsult in a /query, please
[12:19] <axisme> well it seems activating the eth0 in networking somehow magically fixed the wireless
[12:19] <axisme> the magic of linux :-)
[12:19] <IVANGOTOY> hallo
[12:20] <Rudd-O> what's the ubuntu philosophy?
[12:21] <Chousuke> I'm sure it's explained somewhere on ubuntu.com
[12:21] <Madpilot> right on the front page of http://www.ubuntu.com/ , in fact
[12:21] <IVANGOTOY> i made some normal sys updates and i noticed that xorg files were updated too but now it does not allow me to enter it
[12:21] <boricua> where does apt or synaptic keeps its log when installing or upgrading
[12:21] <IVANGOTOY> even if i type my pass i refuses
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> even if i reconfigure xserver and change from nvidia to vese the problem remains
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> is there a know solution?
[12:22] <axisme> do you get an error?
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> automatic login seems not to be working
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> it propts about username and pass
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> i type them
[12:22] <IVANGOTOY> loading and loop on username and pass - it did not tell me thay are wrong
[12:22] <Seveas> IVANGOTOY, update gdm again
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> besides i know thay are not
[12:23] <Seveas> known problem, fixed today
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> how ?
[12:23] <dli> IVANGOTOY, select another session before login
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> apt-get update only?
[12:23] <Seveas> apt-get upgrade
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> okay
[12:23] <boricua> where does apt or synaptic keeps its log when installing or upgrading???????
[12:23] <IVANGOTOY> thank you very much
[12:23] <Seveas> boricua, nowhere
[12:24] <boricua> Seveas: THATS VERY STUPID i would say without offeding ?
[12:24] <chennaituxian> boricua: check the installed packages in /var/cache/apt
[12:24] <Madpilot> IVANGOTOY, could you change your nick so it's not shouting, please?
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> seveas i managed to understand that if i launch recovery mode for example and update it would do ?
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> right?
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> what do you mean exctly by choose another session?
[12:24] <Seveas> IVANGOTOY, or simply hit <alt><f1> to switch to a console
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> excuse me , dli
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> okay :)
[12:24] <IVANGOTOY> console comes again
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> after seferal failures to launch xserver
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> telling me it is not configured right
[12:25] <Rudd-O> what's the exact error message?
[12:25] <dli> IVANGOTOY, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> yup
[12:25] <IVANGOTOY> then?
[12:26] <Rudd-O> and how does the screen appear? any colors?  blue boxes?
[12:26] <IVANGOTOY> i did it already
[12:26] <IVANGOTOY> yup :)
[12:26] <boricua> any reason for apt not to keep a decent log of what it does??
[12:26] <IVANGOTOY> it allows me reconfiguration but it does not allow me to log in :(
[12:26] <Hobbsee> bye Seveas!
[12:27] <IVANGOTOY> another minor problem is that when loading system files it usually has the brown theme
[12:27] <IVANGOTOY> suddenly it disappers and the console output is shown
[12:27] <XiXaQ> why does ubuntu-desktop depend on bittorrent?
[12:28] <IVANGOTOY> so were some games
[12:28] <Kibou> boricua: wadaya mean?
[12:28] <bean> hi my friend has grub error 17 on boot, can anyone help?
[12:28] <bean> after a fresh install of ubuntu
[12:28] <bean> dapper
[12:28] <Guard] [an> morning
[12:28] <boricua> Kibou: a apt log of what it installs upgrades delete
[12:28] <shawn__> hello?
[12:29] <Hobbsee> bean: googled what grub error 17 is?
[12:29] <Hobbsee> hey shawn__
[12:29] <bean> Hobbsee: yeah
[12:29] <Kibou> isn't that /var/log/dpkg.log? it's not very verbose though
[12:29] <bean> Hobbsee: very cryptic
[12:29] <bean> could be something to do with his crippled Dell bios
[12:29] <bean> which only allows "auto" setting for the hard drives
[12:30] <boricua> Kibou: thxs
[12:30] <quux> Dapper on a thinkpad T23. Device Manager sees the 82557/8/9 (ethernet Pro 100) NIC; Network Settings does not see it. What to do?
[12:30] <bean> if worse comes to worse, is there any way to uninstall grub so that he can boot from windows again?
[12:30] <bean> cos right now he can't even boot windows
[12:31] <guzu> fdisk /mbr
[12:31] <slewis> Does anyone have the link to the SPARC Ubuntu installation that was mentioned on the LUGRadio podcast?
[12:31] <bean> fdisk /mbr?
[12:31] <kane77> how can I make a program open up in certain workspace? (eg I want at startup to start thunderbird in workspace 8 etc...)
[12:31] <guzu> bean, from w98 startup floppy
[12:32] <bean> guzu: even if he's running win xp?
[12:32] <guzu> or any other msdos boot disk wich has fdisk
[12:32] <guzu> bean, 99% , but with xp you can use fixmbr
[12:32] <Kibou> bean: or use the recovery console with the winxp install disk and "fixmbr"
[12:32] <quux> repairing XP boot: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=313
[12:32] <bean> fixmbr
[12:33] <mneptok> slewis: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-sparc.iso
[12:33] <kimo> Hey, did dapper get a lot of updates (+ new kernel) in the last two days ?
[12:33] <kane77> kimo, yes i think kernel version 25...
[12:33] <slewis> mneptok: thanks, is there a
[12:33] <kimo> cool :)
[12:33] <kimo> I hope this one powers off my laptop :)
[12:34] <bean> guzu, Kibou: thanks
[12:35] <slewis> mneptok: I will have to look at the docs... I was looking at sparc.ubuntu.com that i got from google :S
[12:35] <guzu> welcome :)
[12:35] <b14ck> mneptok:  my fstab looks like /dev/hda8       /media/hda8     ext2    auto,exec,rw,user 1 2 but hda8 stil mounts read only
[12:35] <quux> ahhh. dmesg says the my e100 driver is failing to load because : e100_eeprom_load: EEPROM corrupted
[12:35] <quux> but the same nic works great under DSL
[12:36] <mneptok> b14ck: did you change the permissions of the mount point?
[12:36] <b14ck> mneptok:  no i don't know how to do that. the cohow line gave me some group error
[12:36] <b14ck> chow*
[12:36] <Kibou> chown?
[12:37] <mneptok> b14ck: sudo chown -R b14ck:b14ck /media/hda8
[12:37] <mneptok> b14ck: i typo'ed the group name earlier O:)
[12:37] <b14ck> mneptok: chown: `b14ck:b1ack': invalid group
[12:37] <b14ck> lol
[12:37] <morphix> is there a list of what 'extra' is in "dapper alternative" ISO??
[12:37] <b14ck> mneptok:  it's b14ck:b14ck not with the l
[12:38] <b14ck> mneptok: hokay dude it worked
[12:39] <mneptok> b14ck: that should do it for you.
[12:39] <b14ck> mneptok:  thanx m8. reboot
[12:39] <quux> no comments on my e100 issue?
[12:50] <app> Is this Gaim IRC client any good? Looks like there is almost no settings at all you could tweak...
[12:50] <Kibou> app: try xchat or irssi
[12:50] <guzu> is good . is not perfect
[12:51] <app> How can I list all installed packages in order of they disk consumption?
[12:54] <popS> Hello again. Still having difficulties with network. Trying sudo /sbin/dhclient doesnt give the nic a ip
[12:55] <yml> hello
[12:55] <morphix> popS: have u checked ur /etc/network/interfaces config
[12:55] <neutrinomass> popS: Um... not a davicom-based (try 'lspci' )  card by any chance ?
[12:55] <yml> is it me or does ubuntu.com is down?
[12:56] <neutrinomass> yml: It's you
[12:56] <morphix> yml: no, i was on no more than a few seconds ago
[12:56] <axisme> its you ;-)
[12:57] <popS> ive looked in interfaces. What should I notices there? Trying lspci now
[12:58] <elijah> how do i check md5sum in ubuntu?
[12:58] <yml> neutrinomass> It is very strange because I cannot access it
[12:58] <elijah> how do i check md5sum of an iso in ubuntu?
[12:59] <yml> I cannot ping www.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <guzu> elijah, md5sum <something> : out.md5
[12:59] <popS> ethernet controller is Via Tech Rhine-III
[12:59] <guzu> elijah, md5sum <something> out.md5
[12:59] <guzu> sorry :)
[12:59] <neutrinomass> popS: No clue, sorry :(
[12:59] <guzu> elijah, md5sum something  > out.md5
[12:59] <popS> np
[12:59] <guzu> lol
[01:00] <yml> I am located in France and using Free's DNS
[01:00] <yml> it is very strange
[01:00] <elijah> thx everyone:)
[01:01] <elijah> thx guzu:)
[01:01] <guzu> np
[01:02] <popS> DHCPDISCOVER to 255.255.255.255 ? Is this the right subnet?
[01:02] <jksd> hi, could someone advise me, if I'm setting up a shell server which allows IRC clients/bots, should I set it up with unmetered bandwidth because of DDoS/smurf etc. attacks, or would it be safe just paying the burstable bandwidth each time I get attacked?
[01:03] <luX`> pff
[01:04] <morphix> popS: my old computers NIC eeprom was buggered.. the card still detected, etc but i COULD NOT use it.. it wouldnt get a IP or transmit any data.. maybe u just have a fudged NIC
[01:04] <jksd> anyone?
[01:04] <Jenny_buntu> help how to download multiple files using btdownloadcurses ?
[01:04] <popS> The funny thing is, that the network works for days and then goes down
[01:05] <yml> Does someone could give me the IP Address of www.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <quux> morphix: I have a NIC that says eeprom corrupt in ubuntu. But works fine in damn small linux
[01:05] <popS> Somebody said something about dhcp-client not renewing but I dont know where to look for that?
[01:05] <Scorpmoon> i I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Officially Supported/Restricted Copyright repository installed, do I also need to install the Officially supported standalone aswell as Restricted copyright?
[01:05] <Scorpmoon> or could I just go along with one main repository with all 4 flags checked?
[01:05] <Jenny_buntu> help how to download multiple files using btdownloadcurses ?
[01:05] <udo> yml tracert the site
[01:05] <udo> or ping
[01:05] <morphix> quux: ok, well mine was truly buggered.. it has a corrupted EEPROM chip
[01:06] <morphix> had*
[01:06] <Kaja> Jenny_buntu, try starting one btdownloadcurses for every torrent you download =/
[01:06] <Jenny_buntu> yml try to ping www.ubuntu.com
[01:06] <Jenny_buntu> Kaja can u pls give me example
[01:07] <Kaja> Jenny_buntu, nope, sorry =(
[01:07] <myfunny> !w32codecs
[01:07] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:08] <luX`> !mplayer
[01:08] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:09] <penguser_> Hi
[01:09] <luX`> !commands
[01:09] <ubotu> somebody said commands was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:09] <mojojojo_> hello
[01:09] <luX`> !help
[01:09] <[swb] > erk, I have broken dependewncies and apt-get -f install says...pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.E: Unable to correct dependencies
[01:09] <[swb] > any suggestions?
[01:09] <mojojojo_> I've recently updated Ubuntu.... and now the sound doesn't work... Do you know what might be the cause??
[01:09] <mojojojo_> any how to fix it???
[01:10] <penguser_> Sorry I am a newbie as well
[01:11] <morphix> is there a list of what 'extra' is in "dapper alternative" compared to dapper desktop??
[01:12] <bean> hi
[01:12] <bean> my friend installed dapper and grub had problems booting
[01:12] <jksd> could someone advise me, if I'm setting up a shell server which allows IRC clients/bots, should I set it up with unmetered bandwidth because of DDoS/smurf etc. attacks, or would it be safe just paying for the extra bandwidth each time I get attacked?
[01:12] <bigfoot1> in my home directory, i have  .openoffice,  .openoffice.org1.9.milestone, openoffice.org2, Can I delete the first two folders? if so, how?
[01:12] <bean> then he tried to use winxp cd to fixmbr
[01:12] <mojojojo__> hi there!
[01:12] <bean> but it doesn't work
[01:12] <jksd> safe/cheaper
[01:13] <mojojojo__> I've recently updated Ubuntu.... and now the sound doesn't work... Do you know what might be the cause??
[01:13] <bean> help?
[01:13] <jksd> mojojojo_: did you updat through synaptics?
[01:13] <jksd> update
[01:13] <udo> what is mean legancy drivers
[01:13] <mojojojo__> jksd, yes, indeed I did
[01:13] <Scorpmoon> do I use tmp for installing apt-get build-dep's ?
[01:13] <jksd> mojojojo_: I've heard it can cause problems
[01:14] <mojojojo__> sooo, Is there a solution to this?
[01:14] <jksd> mojojojo_: not that I know of, but it might have damaged the hardware
[01:14] <Fee^> anyone able to get Rushing Bender to run in Dapper?
[01:14] <jksd> mojojojo_: I heard of someone whos hard drive went bust over it
[01:14] <jksd> mojojojo_: posibly went bust anyways
[01:14] <mojojojo__> jksd,  no it didn't... under windows everything works just fine :)
[01:15] <jksd> mojojojo_: ah that's good
[01:15] <fiveiron> anyone else notice that the compiz-gnome package is broken?
[01:15] <jksd> mojojojo_: I'm afraid I can't help you though :/
[01:15] <mojojojo__> ok, thx for trying anyway
[01:15] <jksd> np
[01:16] <penguser_> Hi, I am a newbie, got a question about command line.
[01:16] <penguser_> I know in dos u can dor a dir /p
[01:16] <fiveiron> then ask... don't need to preface it
[01:16] <nekromaan> hello, does a 32bit-emulib or program exist for the (k)ubuntu amd64 version?
[01:17] <penguser_> could u do that in Linux?
[01:17] <fiveiron> penguser_, "ls | more"
[01:17] <Kaja> Just ask the friggin question.
[01:17] <penguser_> cool thanks
[01:17] <Raskall> My server is a AMD Sempron 2800+ server. I run a mail server (postfix, amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav) with appr. 40 mails pr. day traffic. I also have an apache webserver with appr. 150 page loads pr. day and about 10 mysql-databases.
[01:18] <penguser_> that is one line per enter?
[01:18] <penguser_> could I do one page?
[01:18] <Raskall> Should I suffice with 512 MB RAM?
[01:18] <akral> Can anybody help newbie in linux?
[01:18] <Raskall> I need one of the RAM chips in my workstation.
[01:18] <akral> I'd like to mount my NTFS partition, but it is faulty.
[01:18] <akral> mount -t ntfs hda /home/c
[01:18] <akral> says "special device hda does not exist"
[01:19] <Raskall> akral: fdisk -l
[01:19] <assasukasse> i need to set up a web server with ubuntu, but also should suffice as desktop, should i just install Apache and php what about security features?
[01:19] <Raskall> akral: then check the partition number and do the mount command with hdaX, where X is the NTFS partition number
[01:19] <akral> Raskall, I know. It says hda1 and hd5.
[01:19] <akral> I try to mount them, but they don't work either.
[01:19] <udo> what is mean legancy drivers?
[01:19] <akral> /dev/hda5            2933        9732    54620968+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:19] <akral> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ntfs hda5 /home/a
[01:19] <akral> mount: special device hda5 does not exist
[01:19] <Raskall> akral: what error message do you get on hda1?
[01:20] <Raskall> akral: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/c
[01:20] <Raskall> akral: you need /dev/
[01:20] <yml> Jenny_buntu>	here it is what I get : 82.211.81.166
[01:20] <akral> Oh my, thank you.
[01:20] <akral> I'm such a noob yet >_<
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> assasukasse: just go through the normal installation, and later add php and apache to it (that's what I did on my laptop)
[01:21] <akral> Raskall, another question. I've got my windows disk partitioned and one of the partitions is not really working.
[01:21] <assasukasse> fyrestrtr what about security stuff, how can i add em?
[01:21] <akral> Is there any repair soft, which could go see what's wrong?
[01:22] <jonatan> uhm, is it fair to assume that the upgrades that were released yesterday are a tat bit broken ?
[01:22] <Raskall> akral: That's actually a windows question. I am not sure. I think you are best of finding som windows tools to fix that
[01:23] <akral> Heh, I can't run windows, because it is on that partition. ^_^
[01:23] <akral> It's ok, thank you.
[01:23] <realcoke> hi
[01:23] <Raskall> akral: ok.. try to find system rescue cd on freshmeat.net
[01:23] <Raskall> akral: that might have som tools that can help you
[01:24] <Raskall> akral: it's a live linux distro with a lot of system rescue tools
[01:24] <McNutella> how do I use .bin files ?
[01:24] <akral> Ty. Btw, is it possible to mount ntfs not read-only?
[01:24] <Raskall> akral: but otherwise, I'd boot to the system recovery console from the winxp cd.
[01:24] <McNutella> !bin
[01:24] <ubotu> McNutella: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:25] <popS> any ideas where / how to configure dhcp client to renew / release ip? And should dhcp client ask on 255.255.255.255 (is it broadcast to all)
[01:25] <jonatan> Does anyone else have problems with the binary nvidia drivers after the last update ?
[01:26] <DBO> jonatan, using xgl?
[01:26] <jonatan> DBO no
[01:26] <jonatan> It was working fine up until yesterday.
[01:26] <DBO> oh, well anyhow, yes, lots of people are having performance issues
[01:27] <jonatan> DBO, X doesn't even start for me
[01:27] <DBO> ah thats something different
[01:27] <jonatan> DBO it goes through the whole blue progress bar and then I just get a blank loading screen
[01:27] <someothernick> type startx
[01:27] <Raskall> jonatan: have you gotten a new kernel, maybe?
[01:27] <jonatan> Raskall: dunno, I just used aptitude to upgrade whatever packages was available
[01:28] <jonatan> I'm a bit new to this...
[01:28] <someothernick> no error message?
[01:28] <bigfoot1> i've got the scim applet, but it's only got english as an option. how do i get the japanese option that i lost somehow?
[01:29] <jonatan> someothernick: I can't really tell, it freezes after the loading screen
[01:29] <someothernick> :/
[01:29] <Raskall> jonatan: try going through the nvidia driver installation once more. I recall having similar problems with breezy on my server.
[01:30] <jonatan> Raskall: hmm, ok, I suppose that coudl work , shoudl I purge first and just reinstall it ?
[01:30] <Raskall> I'd try to reinstall first. Without purge
[01:30] <jonatan> ok
[01:30] <Raskall> jonatan: but first, do a "sudo lsmod |grep nv"
[01:31] <Raskall> jonatan: that will tell you if the nvidia module/driver is loaded
[01:31] <Raskall> jonatan: if not, do a "sudo modprobe nvidia" and post the error message here if you get one.
[01:31] <jonatan> Raskall: its using nv at the moment, I had to do nvidia-glx-config disable in order to boot
[01:32] <MetaMorfoziS> and glxinfo | direct if directrendering yes or no:)
[01:35] <jonatan> hmm, ok , will try it again
[01:35] <dirtyagents> hello!
[01:35] <realcoke> hello
[01:36] <vermoos> wotcha
[01:36] <udo> what is mean legancy drivers?
[01:36] <dirtyagents> anyone who knows : is it possible to use chinese input-SCIM in Default EN system?
[01:36] <Khismett> "Legacy" drivers are the ones for older cards
[01:38] <udo> i dont setup my sound in dapper i dont hear any sound also my system detect my card (ac97)
[01:39] <vermoos> udo: have you enabled the universe repository (by editing /etc/apt/sources.list ?)
[01:39] <udo> and all volumes is up what happen
[01:39] <udo> no only for xine i enable the universe repository
[01:40] <udo> for sound what can i do
[01:40] <vermoos> udo: sound should be ok in dapper
[01:40] <udo> no
[01:40] <schalken> is it possible to make a package for ubuntu and put it up in the repository?
[01:40] <udo> how
[01:41] <vermoos> udo: what about simple system sounds?
[01:41] <udo> which command?
[01:41] <udo> nothing
[01:41] <schalken> im sorry?
[01:41] <jrib> schalken: search for "motu" on the wiki
[01:41] <dirtyagents>  anyone who knows : is it possible to use chinese input-SCIM in Default EN system?
[01:41] <udo> i cant hear anything
[01:42] <udo> i play a dvd without sound :)
[01:42] <vermoos> udo: System > Preferences > sounds > test sounds
[01:42] <udo> nothing hearing
[01:43] <vermoos> udo: where it says "Default sound card", does that match the one on your system?
[01:43] <udo> yes
[01:43] <udo> VIA 8237
[01:43] <udo> ac97 chipset
[01:44] <udo> what can i do
[01:44] <chennaituxian> udo: laptop or desktop ?
[01:44] <vermoos> udo: check the volume.
[01:44] <udo> desktop
[01:44] <chennaituxian> have alsamixer ?
[01:44] <udo> yes
[01:44] <vermoos> udo: top right hand side, by the date.
[01:44] <chennaituxian> is the PCM value up ?
[01:44] <udo> yes all
[01:45] <chennaituxian> udo: no sound or less sound ?
[01:45] <udo> is there any command should i install
[01:45] <udo> no sound
[01:46] <chennaituxian> checked launchpad.net fore any known bug or bug-fixes for ur sound card ?
[01:46] <udo> where?
[01:46] <schalken> if i were to install apache, php and mysql packages, how much configuration would be needed to get them working?
[01:46] <schalken> working together, i mean
[01:46] <chennaituxian> go to launchpad.net and search for your sound card name
[01:47] <jrib> ubotu: tell schalken about lamp
[01:47] <Bazzi> schalken: a dozen console commands and you should be set
[01:47] <udo> what os lauchpad.net
[01:47] <udo> what is lauchpad.net
[01:47] <chennaituxian> schalken: very minimal dude
[01:47] <hiver> hiya evry1
[01:48] <hiver> ANY1 WANNA CHAT?
[01:48] <jrib> udo: among other things, you can file bugs for ubuntu there
[01:48] <chennaituxian> udo: its the official open source bug tracker
[01:48] <hiver> how old r u  guys??????????
[01:48] <chennaituxian> hiver: this is not chat room
[01:49] <jrib> hiver: this isn't really a chat channel, it's for Ubuntu support
[01:49] <chennaituxian> schalken: install apache2, php5 and mysql-common
[01:49] <schalken> i had just installed XAMPP for Linux, and thought the easy-to-install webserver should be in the repos, then realised the XAMPP components are already in the repos individually.
[01:49] <chennaituxian> configure php.ini for ur mysql
[01:50] <schalken> maybe someone should make a LAMPP metapackage!!!
[01:50] <schalken> (which configures everything for you)
[01:50] <imbrandon> schalken, and if you download the server cd you can choose to install lamp preconfigured
[01:50] <Bazzi> I think there is one
[01:50] <chennaituxian> schalken: installing them individually and configuring is no herculian task
[01:51] <jrib> schalken: the link ubotu sent you tells you exactly what you need to do, step by step
[01:51] <schalken> chennaituxian: true, but i just thought it should be as easy and with all the nick-nacks as XAMPP ;)
[01:51] <imbrandon> schalken, and if you download the server cd you can choose to install lamp preconfigured
[01:51] <Bazzi> schalken: it is, if using the server cd :)
[01:52] <chennaituxian> schalken: agreed but its always better to know how to configure than using something that happens out of the box, ;)
[01:52] <schalken> chennaituxian: fair point
[01:53] <lin> fuck ubuntu
[01:53] <harry_> is there a disk defragmenter that we should perform like in windows here on ubuntu??
[01:53] <lin> fuck fuck fuck
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Lin: :o
[01:53] <schalken> this lampp metapackage should add a applications menu item 'start LAMPP' and 'stop LAMPP'
[01:53] <harry_> is there a disk defragmenter that we should perform like in windows here on ubuntu??
[01:53] <Bazzi> schalken: a lampp is meant to always run
[01:53] <lin> this fucking "keyboard label" bug @ the menu items should go away
[01:53] <jrib> !langhage
[01:53] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jrib
[01:53] <jrib> !language
[01:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[01:53] <jrib> harry_: nope
[01:54] <schalken> Bazzi: uhm.. another fair point.
[01:54] <chennaituxian> harry_: why do u need a disk defragmenter for ubuntu ?
[01:54] <lin> these maintainers are just dump
[01:54] <Bazzi> schalken: if using it for development purposes only, I recomment setting up a vmware/qemu/... using an ubuntu-server installation
[01:54] <chennaituxian> lin: whats ur problem ?
[01:54] <schalken> harry_: no, if there was it should come with the OS. but AFAIK todays filesystems do not need to be defragmented like old windows FAT did
[01:54] <Bazzi> recommend*
[01:55] <harry_> chennaituxian: i dont know, i just thought the same thing since i was new on ubuntu linux. i'm just making sure
[01:55] <Madpilot> lin, be polite, or leave.
[01:55] <chennaituxian> harry_: u dont need defragmenter for linux
[01:55] <Kibou> what about defragging a fat partition?
[01:55] <harry_> schalken. so i dont nid to worry of anything everytime i switch on and before shutting down my computer?
[01:55] <lin> when debian etch @ AMD64 is ready im gone for good from ubuntu
[01:56] <schalken> Kibou: im sure there is some tool out there to do that form linux ;) there always is
[01:56] <chennaituxian> harry_: obviously, why u need to worry ?
[01:56] <Kibou> never heard of one actually.. hmm
[01:56] <chennaituxian> Kibou: google, u may get answers
[01:56] <schalken> harry_: lol i never said that. but afaik the ext3 filesystem should not need defragmenting
[01:57] <Kibou> why don't you google and give me some answers? ;)
[01:57] <harry_> chennaituxian: i just want to keep my computer running from what it was smoothly..
[01:57] <schalken> Kibou: okay, maybe i will
[01:57] <chennaituxian> schalken: thanks!
[01:58] <paniq> hey
[01:58] <paniq> anyone knows a good tool that keeps track of old files and manages deletion/backup?
[01:59] <paniq> basically it should help me to keep free harddrive space
[01:59] <lin> hey you stupid ubuntu devs go and fix this >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197984&highlight=keyboard+label bug
[01:59] <lin> you dump fags
[01:59] <paniq> hahaha
[01:59] <paniq> lin this is a sanctuary of divine love and human understanding, please watch your language, you asstard.
[01:59] <jrib> lin: that's really not the right way to get people to help you
[01:59] <Allz-i-> hello can someone help me -i am trying to make music- i have mic but dont know how to -mix a music
[02:00] <morphix> lin: you should leave if you kept acting like that.
[02:00] <schalken> http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/WindowsLinuxDifferencesHdd look under the 'Defragmentation' subheading
[02:00] <jrib> !ops
[02:00] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:00] <morphix> keep*
[02:00] <Hobbsee> jrib: ?
[02:00] <paniq> morphix: i think it was meant to be offending.
[02:00] <paniq> haha
[02:00] <paniq> sad ;)
[02:00] <Hobbsee> oh good, i got the right user
[02:00] <jrib> Hobbsee: lin is being offensive
[02:00] <paniq> i dont think he was serious
[02:00] <paniq> its a german
[02:00] <Hobbsee> jrib: so i saw :P
[02:00] <paniq> i'm german too, i know how it is.
[02:01] <paniq> we're fed up by american political correctness :P
[02:01] <Allz-i-> please -does nobody - make a music - you know
[02:01] <pom> hello, people here with Inspiron laptop experience?
[02:01] <Allz-i-> i am a rapper -and i need some good shitt -program
[02:01] <jrib> pom: I use an inspiron 8200
[02:02] <morphix> i just hate the ppl who start getting angry at ppl trying to help.
[02:02] <beeldsnijder> KAN IEMAND MIJ HELPEN
[02:02] <jrib> !nl
[02:02] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> how do i allow my server, running apache, to accept connections wich originates from the proxy running on the same box, the website displays fine from remote pcs, but when the proxy tries to access it it says the requested url doesnt exist
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> slackware gave no problems
[02:03] <paniq> morphix: angryness is an archaic emotion that has been exercised over millions of years of human existence and therefore should not be denied.
[02:03] <beeldsnijder> HOE KAN IK EEN INSTALL UITVOREN ONDER UBUNTO
[02:03] <paniq> morphix: just as hate ;)
[02:03] <pom> jrib: with battery on linux it's spends more energy than on windows
[02:03] <morphix> meh.
[02:03] <schalken> Kibou: okay, i cant find a linux tool to defragment FAT disks :p
[02:03] <pom> jrib: yours too? it's about an hour less on battery
[02:03] <chennaituxian> schalken: aha!
[02:03] <paniq> i actually find it funny when i'm being insulted so moronly like that.
[02:03] <paniq> insults have to be personal and targeted to be hurting.
[02:03] <Kibou> schalken: me neither.. just a bunch of people confirming that there's none
[02:04] <ROBOd> hey guys
[02:04] <schalken> Kibou: yeah
[02:04] <schalken> ROBOd: hey
[02:04] <chennaituxian> Kibou: this shows no need to defragment :p
[02:04] <ROBOd> is there a way to install vlc 0.8.5 in ubuntu 6.06?
[02:04] <schalken> !vlc
[02:04] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[02:04] <ROBOd> any binaries? :)
[02:04] <Kibou> chennaituxian: fat needs defragging.
[02:04] <ROBOd> eh
[02:04] <schalken> ROBOd: any in the repos?
[02:04] <ROBOd> that's vlc 0.8.4
[02:04] <ROBOd> i already got it, i want vlc 0.8.5 :)
[02:04] <schalken> ROBOd: ah okay
[02:05] <ROBOd> schalken: any ideas?
[02:05] <pom> jrib: alleen nederlands?
[02:06] <schalken> ROBOd: if you cant find it in the repos or anywhere by googling, you might need to compile it from source. then go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates and make a request to put it in the repos
[02:06] <jonatan> hmmm, no luck ...
[02:07] <enu> bonjour
[02:07] <Scorpmoon> how do I apt-get remove package where all the dependencies i installed with this package gets removed too??
[02:07] <_jason> pom: oh, I've given up on my battery, it's too old to keep a charge longer than half an hour.  Maybe searching the forums might be more helpful, I think I remember other users discussing that there
[02:08] <jonatan> Ok, so I've tried reisntalling the nvidia drivers, I've tried purging the drivers and then installing them again, doesn't help, X still won't start but just gives me the Kubuntu loading screen
[02:08] <_jason> Scorpmoon: look into deborphan.  In the future if you use aptitude to isntall a package, when you use aptitude to remove it, it will also remvoe deps
[02:08] <jonatan> the nv drivers work fine ...
[02:08] <Scorpmoon> jason, i see, thanks
[02:08] <pom> _jason: yes, but it's to laptop specific I guess, not? I was just wondering why it's getting hotter than in windows and it uses more power
[02:09] <Scorpmoon> jason, i couldnt do it this time, as I used apt-get build-dep
[02:10] <schalken> ROBOd: have a look at http://nightlies.videolan.org/ , down at the dapper/breezy section. im not sure whether these builds are stable or not (being nightly CVS builds) but they should be the latest
[02:10] <jonatan> uhm, this looks bad: glxgears -> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[02:10] <Allz-i-> PLEASE someone -help me -i am trying to find a program that can help Me -mix A music
[02:11] <schalken> Allz-i-: uhm, what are you trying to do?
[02:11] <_jason> pom: the only things I know about are reducing the cpu frequency when you don't need it and turning off the hard disks when you don't need them, maybe ubuntu isn't doing that for you
[02:12] <_jason> Allz-i-: look into audacity
[02:12] <rpedro> Allz-i-: like traktion?
[02:12] <pom> _jason: cpu frequency scaling is ok, hd too as far as I can see
[02:13] <Allz-i-> dno -i have done the
[02:13] <Allz-i->   Niurstur 1 - 10 af um a bil 338.000.000 fyrir my block. (0,22 sekndur)
[02:13] <Allz-i->   2PAC LYRICS
[02:13] <Allz-i-> ups
[02:13] <Allz-i-> sO Sorry -wrong channel
[02:13] <rpedro> Allz-i-: if so, look into http://mixxx.sourceforge.net.
[02:14] <_jason> pom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83876&highlight=extend+battery+life this one has some good suggestions in the last post, maybe you can look more into them
[02:15] <Allz-i-> rpedro
[02:15] <rpedro> Allz-i-: yes?
[02:15] <fausto_> heelo
[02:15] <Allz-i-> i want to sing with it
[02:15] <Allz-i-> i am creating a music
[02:15] <Allz-i-> i have done the lyric
[02:16] <rpedro> Allz-i-: like karaoke , or your own music?
[02:16] <fausto_> hello friends
[02:16] <Allz-i-> my own
[02:16] <pom> _jason: thx
[02:16] <schalken> fausto_: hello!
[02:16] <rpedro> Allz-i-: wait
[02:16] <Allz-i-> ok+
[02:17] <Scorpmoon> does Ubuntu support Cool'n'Quiet from scratch with amd64?
[02:17] <rpedro> Allz-i-: if you just want to record audio, use ardour
[02:18] <Allz-i-> you know tupac right?
[02:18] <Allz-i-> tupac shakur ?
[02:18] <rpedro> Allz-i-: if also midi, you can ,for example, rosegarden, or maybe something like ardour+hydrogen
[02:18] <Stefano> hello everybody
[02:18] <rpedro> tupac?
[02:18] <rpedro> nope
[02:18] <Stefano> I'm very happy with ubuntu 6.06 but I have some troubles to resolve
[02:18] <Allz-i-> ok what evha -i am trying to sing with him -you know?
[02:19] <Allz-i-> it is like mix
[02:19] <Stefano> for example the good thing was that ubuntu found my wireless card
[02:19] <rpedro> Allz-i-: you want to take out the vocals, and overdub yourself singing?
[02:19] <Stefano> but I can't use it and I don't know why...
[02:19] <Allz-i-> YES
[02:19] <Allz-i-> thank you
[02:19] <Stefano> anybody can help me?
[02:19] <Allz-i-> for understanding
[02:20] <drummer87> hey all, can anyone tell me how to make nautilus preview only image files, I like having thumbs for pics, but it just gets slow with videos
[02:20] <kbrooks> Announcing "Kids newspaper": http://kbrooks.ath.cx/kidsnewspaper/ :-)
[02:20] <kbrooks> drummer87: looking
[02:20] <rpedro> Allz-i-: maybe audacity does this (remove the vocals), but you probably would use some multitrack program like ardour to sing over the resulting audio track
[02:21] <Stefano> don't you know how to make it running?
[02:21] <Allz-i-> ok -ill try
[02:21] <Allz-i-> thank you
[02:21] <tubbie> hi
[02:21] <rpedro> Allz-i-: np ;)
[02:21] <tubbie> what tool can I use to convery djvu files to pdf?
[02:21] <kbrooks> drummer87: places > home folder
[02:21] <tubbie> convert
[02:21] <rixxon> can i change how a gnome theme lays out the buttons in the taskbar? i want this theme to "fill" like the "human" theme does
[02:21] <schalken> drummer87: im not sure if thats possible. if you want, you can make it only preview files smaller than i certain size. but i think images and video preview is handled as one
[02:22] <rixxon> it uses some screwed up algorithm, it's really wierd
[02:22] <kbrooks> drummer87:  edit > preferences
[02:22] <rixxon> (Gray theme)
[02:22] <Stefano> don't you want to help me?
[02:22] <kbrooks> drummer87: go to preview
[02:22] <schalken> drummer87: i dont find the loading of a video preview slow at all, anyway
[02:22] <rpedro> Allz-i-: take a look at http://ubuntustudio.com/ , they might have some howot for karaoke or whatever you want to call it
[02:23] <Allz-i-> hehe
[02:23] <Allz-i-> i dont need it
[02:23] <Allz-i-> ;)
[02:23] <Stefano> Otherwise can anybody suggest me a wireless card you're sure it will run on linux without oproblems?
[02:23] <armedking> Anyone know what package i have to install to get a Public File Server going?
[02:23] <drummer87> hmm... yes, i'm having problems with some .dat files more specifically, which nautilus is thinking are mpegs, but aren't, so is getting stuck on them
[02:23] <Allz-i-> but thanks
[02:23] <drummer87> and they're as small as image files
[02:23] <schalken> drummer87: ahhhh, hmm, not sure then
[02:23] <Stefano> a wireless card with open-source drivers without problem to run it????????
[02:23] <schalken> drummer87: i remember having this problem in windows
[02:23] <schalken> that*
[02:24] <drummer87> oh well... looking through gconf anyway, might find something there
[02:25] <Stefano> can anybody suggest me a wireless card for linux you're certain it will run?
[02:25] <drummer87> Stefano: Atheros chipset works well w/ madwifi drivers
[02:26] <Stefano> yes
[02:26] <_rodney> lines on screen dapper any fix
[02:26] <Stefano> but .. ehm... i live in switzerland and I've never found them
[02:26] <_rodney> ?
[02:26] <drummer87> aparently Prism is tried and true, but I've never used a card with that chip
[02:26] <tyrchyus> hi
[02:26] <Stefano> only us robotics(i have the router and the card, but -.. ehm .. problems preoblsm problems ..) and zyxel is too expensive and not good
[02:27] <tyrchyus> what is the command to restart the hotplug system?
[02:27] <Stefano> drummer87: suggestions?
[02:28] <tyrchyus> the command for breezy not works
[02:29] <drummer87> Stefano: I haven't had much experience with wifi cards really.. I'm using a dlink dwl-g520 atm and is working well with wpa_supplicant. I was using a netgear wg311v2 (acx111 chip) with ndiswrapper, but that seemed to be playing up since upping to dapper so i swapped cards
[02:30] <Stefano> yes .. but I don't think, you have 10 meters cable between the router and your computer
[02:31] <bjornkri> ohoy
[02:31] <jonatan> uhm, I'm having a bit of a problem with X / nvidia drivers
[02:32] <jonatan> more specifically startx gives me an error saying it couldn't find module nvidia ...
[02:32] <graveson> anyone have experience with a dvb and the scan command ?
[02:32] <bjornkri> I coulnd't make up my mind about editors, so I opened a file in vim, then in gedit, then in vim again... and now all of a sudden it's filled with ^Ms at the end of every line... What happened and how can I fix it? :)
[02:32] <Stefano> drmmer87: should a zyxel card with etheos chipset wok with a us robotics router?
[02:32] <rbn-> I made a live cd, and put my dvd-drive as first boot device but it always boots Windows anyway. I don't even get trhe option to boot from the cd.
[02:32] <rpedro> !tell jonatan about nvidia
[02:33] <Lapis_> Good morning, #ubuntu
[02:33] <Stefano> drummer87: thew only problem is that it isn't a pci card: it's an susb stick
[02:33] <Scorpmoon> how do I safely install a downloaded .sh file?
[02:33] <schalken> Lapis_: Good evening!
[02:33] <jonatan> rpedro: I have had it working for about a month now, I have read hundreds of wikis, but somehow, after doing an update last friday, X refuses to start
[02:33] <Lapis_> I've got a little question. After booting up Ubuntu it seems to take several minutes for my network interface card to begin transmitting properly. Any ideas why that is? It shows up as enabled and all that jaz, but no deal.
[02:34] <jonatan> rpedro: they are installed, xorg.conf is set up , I have used nvidia-glx-config enable , but X just won't start
[02:34] <mumbles> how do i get grub back after a windows reinstalll ?
[02:34] <oRGy> Simple question - how do I configure grub?  I want to remove some obsolete entries.
[02:34] <rbn-> I made a live cd, and put my dvd-drive as first boot device but it always boots Windows anyway. I don't even get trhe option to boot from the cd. Any ideas?
[02:34] <drummer87> Stefano: I don't know specifically, but in general products should be cross compatable, i have dlink card and a netgear router. I have no idea if the wifi adapter will work in ubuntu though
[02:34] <I_Died_Once> I have an odd question
[02:35] <schalken> Scorpmoon: i dont think there are any options other than to execute it. double-clicking on it i think allows you to do that. if not, navigate to its directory in the terminal and type ./filename.sh (where filename is its filename)
[02:35] <oRGy> rbn - sure it was burned as an image?
[02:35] <drummer87> Stefano: there's a list in the ubuntu wiki of cards tested with ubuntu, might be a good place to start if looking for a new card
[02:35] <bjornkri> right, never mind, deleted all the Ms manually
[02:35] <Stefano> drummer87: a good idea migh be to buy an in tel pci card: I've heard that they should work in linux
[02:35] <rpedro> jonatan: I have an ati card myself, which ususally are supposed to be more problematic under linux
[02:35] <rbn-> oRGy yeah, and when I open it in windows it says. Reboot with this cd to test Ubuntu
[02:35] <rbn-> but it never boots :/
[02:36] <Scorpmoon> schalken, actually it's sudo sh file.sh
[02:36] <oRGy> hm, could be a bad iso.  did you md5sum it?
[02:36] <_rodney> reboot manual... with bios set  to cd boot ?
[02:36] <I_Died_Once> I've restarted, rebooted, and SOMETHING is using the packaging system database and i cannot install programs
[02:36] <jonatan> rpedro, I have an ATI card as well, I knwo the drill
[02:36] <Scorpmoon> schalken, but is that safe to do on an Ubuntu system?
[02:36] <dragoon> hey guys
[02:36] <dragoon> do i need the package ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:36] <_rodney> i would ;)
[02:36] <oRGy> hm, for some reason nvidia never worked with ubuntu, whereas my new ati card works great
[02:36] <jonatan> rpedro: thing is, I had my nvidia card working, its just after friday's updates X doesn't seem to find the driver
[02:37] <rbn-> _rodney the bios is set to cd-boot
[02:37] <rbn-> that's the weird thing :/
[02:37] <Stefano> drummer87: I found now a guide for my wireless card .. but it's vey very hard
[02:37] <schalken> Scorpmoon, its the sh file's job to make sure its safe to do something. check if the file was made for a specific distribution, and if not, it should work under all.
[02:37] <rpedro> jonatan: past the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin.com , and post the url here, maybe someone else can help you with your problem with nvidia gfx card
[02:37] <I_Died_Once> is there a way to find out EXACTLY what program has my packagind system database on "lockdown"
[02:37] <andy_> hi all. I hope you can help me. I have a dual monitor setup and I've just installed ubuntu for the first time. I'm a windows power user but linux is brand new to me. I want to enable my AGP ati 9800se card (which should be primary) and still have my secondary ati 7000 card as a dual monitor setup in ubuntu. How? :)
[02:37] <Stefano> drummer87: I don't know if you speak italian, but the link is this: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/USR5416
[02:37] <Scorpmoon> ok.. it just seems to me that everything besides apt-get or synaptic is a last resort thing
[02:37] <jonatan> rpedro: ok, I will try, keeping in mind that I only have lynx to browse with : /
[02:37] <graveson> how do i add scripts to gnome so when i double click it will prompt for a password (sudo command in script) and run the script
[02:38] <_rodney> strange i dunno... maybe it didnt burn properly ?
[02:38] <dragoon> do i need the package ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:38] <rpedro> jonatan: I haven't looked to see if there are any problems introduced from updates , as I have an ati card
[02:38] <schalken> dragoon: ubuntu-desktop is merely a meta-package, which depends on stuff that is installed by default like firefox openoffice etc etc (therefore making sure they are installed)
[02:38] <oRGy> Simple question - how do I configure grub?  I want to remove some obsolete entries.
[02:38] <schalken> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[02:38] <_rodney> nano /boot/grub/menu.lst or somit like that
[02:38] <jksd> oRGy: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:38] <whaley> hi mates: is there a quick way to view what drives are currently mounted via cli
[02:38] <oRGy> cheers
[02:38] <I_Died_Once> Can someone help me find out how to unlock my database so adept can install programs?
[02:38] <wildman> oRGy: don't forget 'sudo'
[02:39] <rpedro> jonatan, maybe search the forums at ubuntuforums.org or even launchpad.net
[02:39] <Stefano> drummer87: thank you for all. I will try to resolve this problem this evening
[02:39] <apokryphos> I_Died_Once: close synaptic/apt etc
[02:39] <oRGy> thanks all
[02:39] <Stefano> bye bye
[02:39] <vineeth> whaley:try df
[02:39] <zenit> whaley: mount
[02:39] <I_Died_Once> I have, I just rebooted the computer and I get this from scratch
[02:39] <whaley> mount without any arguments works?
[02:39] <wildman> whaley: y, it just displays what u want
[02:39] <whaley> vineeth: df works.... and i should have remembered that since i've used that command several times before :)
[02:40] <stjepan> anyone here uses metatheme?
[02:40] <schalken> stjapan: whats that?
[02:40] <drummer87> Stefano: can't speak a word of it :( .. but that howto is a pretty standard ndiswrapper and wpa setup
[02:40] <whaley> wildman, zenit, vineeth:  thanks :)
[02:40] <dragoon> do i need the package ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:40] <whaley> does ubotu have a karma system at all?
[02:40] <drummer87> oh, he's gone
[02:40] <dragoon> whoops
[02:40] <dragoon> i pushed that instead of pgup
[02:41] <I_Died_Once> is there a way to manuall unlock the database?
[02:41] <dragoon> schalken: i dont need them for a working system though do i ?
[02:41] <whaley> wildman++
[02:41] <I_Died_Once> I have Ksysguard and there is no apt, synamptic, adept, or anything running
[02:41] <wildman> whaley: welcomed
[02:41] <schalken> dragoon: the system works fine without, so no
[02:41] <whaley> zenit++
[02:41] <whaley> vineeth++
[02:41] <dragoon> ok, ty
[02:41] <zenit> thank you :)
[02:41] <I_Died_Once> yet i still get the notice when i try to run adept
[02:41] <whaley> i always appreciate help :)
[02:41] <vineeth> whaley:thanx :-)
[02:42] <schalken> dragoon: its mainly there to make sure you dont uninstall some vital application by accident or something like that. makes sure everything is intact.
[02:42] <_rodney> ps aux... make sure no other packagemanager stuff is runinng
[02:42] <_rodney> ?
[02:42] <_rodney> http://www.petitiononline.com/Geronimo/
[02:42] <Felll> Does anybody know how I can install a newer version of Mono and Monodevelop ? (the one in the repository is 1.1.13 ...)
[02:43] <_rodney> get the source ;)
[02:43] <schalken> Fell: if you cant find a ubuntu binary (package) then you'll probably have to compile it from source
[02:44] <_rodney> so is there a fix... for the horizontal lines bug in dapper ?
[02:45] <_rodney> short or installing a different distro ?
[02:45] <qos> hey guys ...
[02:45] <_rodney> and now dapper is out ... breezy is scr5eweed... theres still bugs in that... geez
[02:45] <_rodney> linux heh ;/
[02:46] <schalken> how do i delete a directory from the CLI?
[02:46] <_rodney> rmdir
[02:46] <_rodney> or rm -fr
[02:46] <eXistenZ> when will the eggdrop 1.6.8 be available?
[02:46] <_rodney> then nameofdir...
[02:46] <schalken> _rodney: thanks!
[02:46] <_rodney> nps ;)
[02:47] <qos> there is a problem with my terminal. it doesnt find binarys which are located in /var/lib/install/usr/bin ... but there is a "export PATH=/var/lib/install/usr/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:$PATH" in my /root/.profile
[02:47] <amar-ze> eXistenZ: are you sure you are on the right place?
[02:47] <amar-ze> :)
[02:47] <schalken> _rodey: uhm, what if its not empty? iw ant to delete all its contents aswel
[02:47] <jonatan> uhm, whats the name of the X log file again ?
[02:47] <eXistenZ> amar-ze, I'm talking about the repository.
[02:47] <_rodney> rm -fr nameofdir
[02:48] <schalken> _rodney: nvm, rm -fr works
[02:48] <_rodney> ;)
[02:48] <schalken> _rodney: yeah lol
[02:48] <babo> how do I replace a color, with transparency in gimp ?
[02:48] <zenit> qos: did you start a new shell after changing the path? What does `echo $PATH` show you?
[02:49] <audela> hi, is it ok to upgrade 5.04 to 6.10 in one go (without going via 5.10)?
[02:49] <schalken> !lamp
[02:49] <rpedro> babo: #gimp
[02:49] <_rodney> x log file : /var/log/Xorg.?.log
[02:49] <qos> zenit: it doent shows the path i need ... i completely restarted my device ;)
[02:49] <rpedro> audela: no
[02:50] <rpedro> rpedro: dont do that
[02:50] <audela> ok, so upgrade to 5.10, and then once done, then upgrade to 6.10, yes?
[02:50] <zenit> qos: maybe you have another PATH variable in a different startup file, like .bashrc?
[02:50] <rpedro> *audela
[02:50] <Felll> _rodney: i have found the source for a newer version of Mono ... do i need to deinstall mono from the package manager (and all dependencies on mono) ?
[02:50] <_rodney> just uninstall mono yeah
[02:51] <_rodney> leave the dependencies...
[02:51] <rpedro> !upgrade
[02:51] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[02:51] <rpedro> audela: yes
[02:51] <jonatan> _rodney: cheers
[02:51] <_rodney> nps ;)
[02:51] <zblach> what does one do with a .toast file?
[02:51] <audela> ok, thanks.....
[02:51] <_rodney> burn ;)
[02:52] <zblach> k3b handle toast?
[02:52] <_rodney> i donno sounds like a burning software file tho
[02:52] <qos> zenit: there is only a .bashrc in /root and it doesnt contains any exports...
[02:52] <audela> ubotu: ""update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)"  ...so that isn't a good idea then....(?)
[02:52] <ubotu> audela: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[02:52] <audela> ahhhh
[02:52] <_rodney> try : file name.toast
[02:52] <audela> ubotu is a bot?
[02:52] <ubotu> audela: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:52] <audela> yes :)
[02:53] <audela> ok, I'll do the 504-> 510 &then 510->606
[02:53] <zenit> qos: I would suggest then to put your .profile for root in a pastebin. Could be an error.
[02:54] <jonatan> nvidia problesm -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15856
[02:54] <qos> zenit: can u give me an url? my prefered pastebin went offline
[02:54] <zenit> qos: it'
[02:54] <zenit> it's in the topic http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:54] <jonatan> and yes, I did follow the wiki instructions
[02:55] <rddp> anyone know how i can split the audio from an ogg theora file, preferably to mp3?
[02:55] <qos> zenit: thx
[02:55] <Kibou> rddp: mplayer
[02:56] <Felll> i have just found a page that some people might find usefull: http://schimana.net/ubuntu-sourceslist/
[02:56] <rddp> Kibou, mplayer can write to files?
[02:56] <Scorpmoon> is sudo apt-get install ia32-libs* in anyway going to harm my x64 system?
[02:57] <Kibou> rddp: you do something like mplayer file.ogg -vo null -vc null -ao pcm:file=pip.fifo and encode with lame using te pipe
[02:58] <_rodney> sox ?
[02:58] <Kibou> rddp: mkfifo pipe.fifo && lame pipe.fifo newmp3.mp3 & mplayer file.ogg -vo null -vc null -ao pcm:file=pipe.fifo
[02:58] <_rodney> Scorpmoon: interesting postion ;)
[02:59] <_rodney> shouldnt do ;)
[02:59] <Scorpmoon> not good enough for me..
[02:59] <rddp> Kibou, awesome, thanks
[02:59] <Kibou> no prob
[02:59] <_rodney> well its detriment isnt it ?
[02:59] <_rodney> unless you have a mutual reception yer screwed there :(... or equivalant
[03:00] <mirak> hi
[03:00] <_rodney> hi
[03:01] <Toma-> anything capable of batch ogg to mp3 in the repos?
[03:01] <Kibou> ...
[03:01] <_rodney> sox...
[03:01] <_rodney> or what matey said in a for next loop ?
[03:01] <_rodney> lol
[03:01] <mirak> I want that my harddrive with windows is put on standby at boot, and I want to adjust the standby delay. I know how to do that in console with hdparm, but I am not sure where I must put this settings to keep them and enable them at boot
[03:02] <zenit> qos: btw, the solution could just that you're not executing a login shell for root. Try sudo -i and see if the PATH is correct.
[03:02] <Toma-> o... i wasnt watching :D
[03:02] <ome> Is there a way to get a windows drive working in Ubuntu?
[03:03] <vineeth> ome:ntfs or fat32 ?
[03:03] <ome> ntfs
[03:03] <Toma-> !info soundconverter
[03:03] <ubotu> soundconverter: (simple sound converter application for GNOME), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.8.3-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[03:03] <_rodney> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[03:03] <_rodney> prolly
[03:03] <vineeth> ome:ntfs write support has to be enabled
[03:03] <Toma-> woot!
[03:03] <ome> sweet, so easy fix?
[03:04] <eXistenZ> I wonder why the name of my tcl's lib is libtcl8.4.so.0
[03:04] <eXistenZ> with the 0 =/
[03:04] <ome> Where do i enable that?
[03:04] <vineeth> omet:is it the default option in the stock kernel ?
[03:04] <jonatan> ome, you will be able to read from it, but writing to ntfs is a bit dodgy
[03:04] <_rodney> in kernel compile options LOL
[03:04] <Toma-> Eeep! anyone seen theis error? "GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_class_add_pad_template: assertion `gst_element_class_get_pad_template (klass, templ->name_template) == NULL' failed"
[03:04] <_rodney> not so easy... still heh.....bleh
[03:04] <ome> can i copy from it?
[03:04] <vineeth> ome:ya u can
[03:04] <ome> Im trying to get flash 8 working and need to copy install
[03:04] <jonatan> ome, yes you can read from it, so copy shoudl be fine
[03:04] <ome> cool
[03:05] <jonatan> ome, you will need to add a bit to /etc/fstab
[03:05] <Toma-> ome: flash 8 isnt out for linux yet
[03:05] <Toma-> been researching it all day :(
[03:05] <ome> it works with wine
[03:05] <Toma-> o rly?
[03:05] <ome> yep
[03:05] <ome> considered premium now
[03:06] <ome> just gotta copy from windows install theres a long tutorial linked in appdb
[03:06] <Toma-> rightio! thx
[03:07] <ome> what do i need to add to /etc/fstab?
[03:07] <vineeth> ome:well ur device name, mount point type options etc
[03:07] <ome> ok im a huge noob is there a link with instructions ?
[03:07] <vineeth> ome:you can check ur fstab and use the entries there as a template
[03:08] <abo> did anyone try google earth on ubuntu?
[03:08] <jonatan> ome , I can't remember exactly what at the moment, but if you google for "mounting ntfs partitions on Linux" you should find something
[03:08] <ome> ok thanks
[03:08] <zblach> ome, here's what you need
[03:08] <zblach> it says 'defaults'
[03:08] <ome> kk
[03:08] <Stork> dapper screwed up my pc...
[03:08] <Draconicus> What can I use to create a gif file?
[03:09] <zblach> add this to that line: ",rw,utf8,umask=000"
[03:09] <Stork> it says "Booting up the kernel... Done" and the screen goes blank
[03:09] <zblach> and the other two flags should be set to zero
[03:09] <_rodney> stork x not working ?>
[03:09] <ome> whats the full syntax i need to type and do i type it in the /etc/fstab directory?
[03:09] <Toma-> Draconicus: what kind of gif?
[03:09] <ome> yah im to noob zblach
[03:09] <Draconicus> Just a regular, non-moving one.
[03:09] <zblach> /etc/fstab isn't a directory
[03:09] <ome> i better look online
[03:10] <vineeth> ome:edit /etc/fstab
[03:10] <Toma-> Draconicus: gimp?
[03:10] <ome> k
[03:10] <ome> ok so that line to defaults
[03:10] <ome> gotcha
[03:10] <Draconicus> Toma-: GIMP actually doesn't do GIF, apparently.
[03:10] <Toma-> o yes it does
[03:10] <zblach> gif is a protected filetype. it's licensed to someone out there.
[03:10] <Toma-> since when?
[03:10] <jonatan> ome, fstab is a config file, you should edit it to include something like /dev/[your drive]  /media/whatever ntfs ... and so on
[03:11] <Draconicus> Oh. Wait..
[03:11] <zblach> same deal as mp3, i think
[03:11] <Draconicus> There we go.
[03:11] <ome> I hear yuh. Im gonna have to get a step by step tutorial though getting a variety of info from yall now
[03:11] <Stork> _rodney, none of it works... blank screen
[03:12] <jonatan> ome, hang on I'll see if I can google something for you
[03:12] <ome> k
[03:12] <zblach> /dev/hda5       /downloads      vfat    defaults,rw,iocharset=utf8,umask=000        0       0
[03:12] <zblach> ome, here's a sample:
[03:12] <ome> brb gonna have a smoke
[03:12] <Stork> smoking kills.#
[03:12] <Toma-> just made a gif in gimp
[03:12] <rddp_> Kibou, bah, it gets to a few % then fails saying "Too many audio packets in the buffer: (4096 in 1000683 bytes)" any ideas?
[03:12] <vineeth> jonatan:isn't there some kind of a GUI tool for editing fstab ?
[03:12] <zblach> vineeth: it's pure evil
[03:12] <jonatan> vineeth: probably
[03:13] <Stork> dapper sucks
[03:13] <Stork> i'm gonna format and go back to breezy
[03:13] <zblach> Stork, just did that this morning
[03:13] <Toma-> Stork: i did that too. ended up persisting and got dapper on
[03:14] <Stork> it doesn't even have working nvidia drivers on apt-get
[03:14] <zblach> i found that dapper killed ndiswrapper, isolating me completely from the internet
[03:14] <Toma-> did a fresh install on my PC and had errors up to my neck. did a dist-upgrade on the PC downstairs and was smooth sailing
[03:14] <Dr_Geek> Dapper works fine for me
[03:14] <warty> what repository has mplayer for dapper LTS?
[03:14] <Kibou> rddp_: is the mp3 fine? or doesn't it work at all?
[03:14] <pom> when I use aticonfig --lsp there are 3 modes, how can I go to low usage mode automatically when I am running on batteryN
[03:14] <MrKeuner> hi, did anybody using ati chipset graphics drivers has recently upgraded to 2.6.15-25-686 kernel on dapper? My 3D is broken now.
[03:14] <pom> ?
[03:15] <jonatan> ome, try something like /dev/[name of drive]  /media/win ntfs nls=iso8859-1,ro,umask=0 0 0
[03:15] <rddp_> Kibou, yeah the stuff it got up to works fine
[03:15] <MonsieurBon> hello
[03:15] <MonsieurBon> I have a problem
[03:15] <warty> admitting it is fthe frist step, MonsieurBon
[03:15] <zblach> jonatan: isn't 'ro' a read-only flag?
[03:15] <Toma-> hahah
[03:15] <skip> my bios reports 2 temps: CPU and M/B, but lmsensors detects 3 temps. What could the third sensors be? Video card?
[03:16] <Spy> hey guys where can i find a tutorial that helps me with dual booting 2 hard drives, one with linux and one with windz
[03:16] <jonatan> zblach: yea, ntfs write support is kind adodgy on Linux atm
[03:16] <MonsieurBon> My laptop does not play music anymore. It' play's the files, but I don't hear anything. There's no headphones pluged into and the volume is on maximum!
[03:16] <pom> skip: can be hd too
[03:16] <zblach> oh right. i forgot. i'm using fat32
[03:16] <pom> skip: find it out with hddtemp
[03:16] <skip> pom, hddtemp reports a different temp to the third sensor
[03:16] <Kibou> rddp_: I'm not sure. Does mplayer play the file correctly?
[03:17] <warty> where can i get mplayer
[03:17] <MonsieurBon> in alsamixer it sais: PCM [off] 
[03:18] <ome> back
[03:18] <MonsieurBon> How do I turn it on?
[03:18] <zhenr1> is it possible to leave something running that was started through an ssh terminal even after you've logged off, so that you can come back to it when you log in next
[03:18] <MdSalih> anyone know a good dvb application other than kaffeine ?
[03:18] <warty> &
[03:18] <warty> use that zhenr1
[03:18] <skip> pom, what is a good hdd-intensive command to run to increase the hdd temp?
[03:18] <warty> nohup
[03:18] <rddp_> Kibou, yep seems to
[03:19] <ome> Jonathin: any news?
[03:19] <ome> jonatan: any news?
[03:19] <Stork> ubuntu is a pos
[03:19] <Toma-> MdSalih: dvb?
[03:20] <Kibou> rddp_: maybe the pipe is the problem then. just do mplayer file.ogg -vo null -vc null -ao pcm=file.wav and it writes out an actual file and you can go from there
[03:20] <jonatan> ome try something like /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs nls=iso8859-1,ro,umask=0 0 0 in fstab
[03:20] <Hobbsee> Stork: are you here for help, or just to flame?
[03:20] <rixxon> what is "hint" and "saddr" in /proc/net/irda/discovery ?
[03:20] <rddp_> Kibou, ok I'll try that. Thanks again
[03:20] <jonatan> ome, but change hda1 to be your ntfs drive
[03:20] <Tommy2k4> how do i install a deb
[03:20] <pom> skip: find for example
[03:20] <Stork> Hobbsee, both...
[03:20] <jonatan> and you probably want to change the mount point
[03:21] <Hobbsee> Stork: for flaming, you'll get kickbanned - so you'd better decide which you'd prefer
[03:21] <skip> pom, yes, I guessed it might be a good one
[03:21] <jonatan> ome, basically the first path is teh path of the device, teh second is the path of the directory you want to mount it to
[03:21] <MdSalih> Toma- digitial video broadcast.. like TV on your computer
[03:21] <Toma-> MdSalih: ahhh TV viewing app?
[03:21] <MdSalih> kaffeine has the feature.. buts its not very good
[03:21] <ome> ok so i put that full line in fstab under default?
[03:21] <MdSalih> yup
[03:21] <skip> pom, is there any chance hddtemp could be returning a false reading?
[03:21] <jonatan> ome, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faqs/2006/05/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu.php
[03:22] <Toma-> MdSalih: i use tvtime. BEST viewer ever. doesnt record tho
[03:22] <zhenr1> anyone know how to keep a process running in the back ground so I can logoff and then resume when I log back on
[03:22] <ome> thanks
[03:22] <Stork> my error is... i just installed dapper because the damn thing told me to, and it just freezes at boot with this message... "Begin: Waiting for root file system... ..."
[03:22] <nandovieira> hi... I'm trying to write files to a partition and nautilus says that I have no permission... But yesterday everything was working.. Here's my /etc/fstab
[03:22] <boymdeso> hello
[03:23] <nandovieira>  /dev/hda5	/media/d	vfat	defaults,rw,user,umask=000	0	0
[03:23] <jonatan> ome, I think that might be a bit out of date tho
[03:23] <Toma-> Stork: did usplash load up?
[03:23] <zblach> 5 zeroes?
[03:23] <_rodney> is that 1 o or somit as well
[03:23] <Stork> Toma-, how do i tell?
[03:24] <jonatan> nandovieira: try changing the permissions of teh mount point
[03:24] <ome> amdfx@amdfx-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir -p/media/c
[03:24] <ome> mkdir: invalid option -- /
[03:24] <ome> Try `mkdir --help' for more information.
[03:24] <Toma-> Stork: pretty picture of "ubuntu" and a pretty little laoding bar
[03:24] <nandovieira> jonatan: how do i do that?
[03:24] <Stork> Toma-, no
[03:24] <schalken> is the MySQL root user like the Linux root user, in that you shouldn't do you're everyday stuff with it?
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> ** (process:7013): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[03:24] <Toma-> Stork: ok, grub isnt installing properly....
[03:25] <Stork> Toma-, :\
[03:25] <jonatan> ome, try this one http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php
[03:25] <Toma-> :) easily fixed.
[03:25] <ome> k
[03:25] <_rodney> Toma-: someone i knmow couldnt setuyp boot with dapper... its got a bug
[03:25] <jonatan> ome, it seems a bit more friendly
[03:25] <Draconicus> I just tried to install xubuntu-desktop. Everything went smoothly. Now, when I try to start it, I get "/bin/sh:  /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc:  No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
 amdfx@amdfx-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir -p/media/c <---- Check spelling.... -p /media .. -p/media
[03:25] <jonatan> nandovieira: umount /dev/hda5
[03:25] <_rodney> just use another one like gparted or somit... first...
[03:25] <Tommy2k4> anyone know what that error means
[03:25] <Toma-> Stork: its a known problem... see what _rodney has to say
[03:25] <nandovieira> jonatan: done.. what's next?
[03:26] <jonatan> nandovieira: then use chmod on /media/dv
[03:26] <jonatan> nandovieira: do you know how permissions work on Linux ?
[03:26] <nandovieira> jonatan: yes
[03:26] <Stork> _rodney, any ideas?
[03:26] <filleokus> Hi, i have installed Ubuntu with LAMP and every thing work like a charm, but i cant acsess the server via internet only trough its local ip number. So i just want to know if it is some firewall or a setting in ubuntu or if router is'nt working?
[03:26] <Toma-> *excited* FINALLY got my M:robe working with linux!!!! *cheer*
[03:27] <jonatan> nandovieira: ok, there shoudl be a directory called /media/dv where you mount the device, change the permissions of it
[03:27] <schalken> is the MySQL root user like the Linux root user, in that you shouldn't do you're everyday stuff with it?
[03:27] <Toma-> Stork: ill find it for ya, brb
[03:27] <Stork> schalken, #mysql ?
[03:27] <_rodney> try using another partition manager to set up the partitions... im sure really... ;(
[03:27] <gavagai> filleokus, router IS working unless you forwarded ports to your ubuntu machine
[03:27] <Toma-> i gotta check launchpad anyway
[03:27] <schalken> Stork: yes, MySQL.
[03:27] <kozmic> vmware-player post-installation script fails, how can i remove it so it doesnt try to run it every time i install something?
[03:27] <Stork> schalken, #mysql ....
[03:27] <schalken> Stork: ohhhhhhhhhh
[03:27] <filleokus> gavagai, i did, but i think that might some settings in Apache is blocking www trafic?
[03:27] <schalken> Stork: the mysql channel, thanks!
[03:28] <Stork> yeah :p
[03:28] <Draconicus> This problem of mine has been ignored for 24 hours, now.
[03:28] <_rodney> whats yer prob again Draconicus  ?
[03:28] <amee2k> why does this gnome terminal not support ANSI escape sequences?!
[03:28] <nandovieira> jonatan: didn't work.... but worked changing ownership for my user....
[03:29] <gavagai> filleokus, are you running a firewall on the ubuntu system
[03:29] <_rodney> oh right missing xinitrc
[03:29] <_rodney> just put a text file in there with the name of the window manager in it
[03:29] <filleokus> gavagai, no, just a defualt from LAMP ubuntu install
[03:29] <Stork> any luck Toma- ?
[03:30] <Toma-> hang on
[03:30] <Stork> cheers
[03:30] <jonatan> nandovieira: try mounting it first and then changing the permissions
[03:30] <Draconicus> _rodney: 'kay
[03:31] <chriseba> hi, i'm using ubuntu 5.10live cd now. and i have to mount a hard-disk the installed kde linux?
[03:31] <kozmic> every time i install a new app, vmware-player postscript runs (and fails), how can i remove it so it doesnt run all the time?
[03:31] <nandovieira> forget about it... Already worked running $sudo chown nando /media/d
[03:31] <nandovieira> thank you
[03:31] <Draconicus> _rodney: Looks like this is a problem with broken packages, as there is a "xinitrc.dpkg-new" in there, but no xinitrc.
[03:31] <Stork> this is so not cool
[03:31] <jonatan> nandovieira: try removing defaluts from that line
[03:31] <_rodney> yep
[03:31] <Stork> i just installed dapper and ALL EIGHT of the kernels that i used to use don't work.
[03:31] <chriseba> hi, i'm using ubuntu 5.10live cd now. and i have to mount a hard-disk the installed kde linux. how can i do it?
[03:31] <nandovieira> ok
[03:32] <_rodney> theres a simple but special format for that file.. i cant find it now tho
[03:32] <Draconicus> _rodney: Can that file be renamed, or should I just make one like you first suggested?
[03:32] <_rodney> its gotta be that name thats its looking for
[03:32] <Draconicus> Yeah. I'm just worried that the extension means something... eh... I'll nano it.
[03:33] <_rodney> http://www.nacse.org/demos/coping-with-unix/coping-with-unix/node184.html
[03:33] <gavagai> there can't be an extension
[03:33] <_rodney> http://www.strath.ac.uk/CC/Courses/oldXC/subsection3_9_3.html
[03:33] <_rodney> it just runs the window manager
[03:33] <Draconicus> _rodney: Hmm. It's just a complicated bash shell. Should be the right thing.
[03:33] <chriseba> who can help me?
[03:34] <Toma-> Stork: thats interesting...
[03:34] <_rodney> yeah most of it.. you dont need... you only the start relevant window manager command really
[03:34] <Toma-> have you got the ubuntu-desktop install cd?
[03:34] <Stork> yeah, for breezy
[03:34] <_rodney> chriseba: er there should be a install prog you can click on
[03:34] <Stork> but i can't figure out how to partition
[03:35] <_rodney> you need 2... 1 label as swap and make double size of ram
[03:35] <Toma-> Stork: so you did a dist-upgrade?
[03:35] <filleokus> gavagai, hmm if i point my webbroser like 192.168.0.103/asjGSLF then this line appers in the buttom under all 404 etc, Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2 Server at 192.168.0.103 Port 80, and i might think that i shold be something else there?
[03:35] <_rodney> other is file the os make as big as you can.. and label it "/" without the ""
[03:35] <gavagai> filleokus, i'm not sure, you may ask in #apache?  what does this show:  sudo grep allow /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[03:35] <Stork> _rodney, i already have and 80gb for /home
[03:36] <_rodney> so you already have set up the partitions ok ?
[03:36] <filleokus> gavagai, grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory
[03:36] <Stork> _rodney, yeah but whenever i try and edit it says i have too many primary partitions
[03:36] <gavagai> filleokus, do you know where your apache config file is located?
[03:36] <Draconicus> _rodney: All fixed. Should I report this problem somewhere?
[03:37] <filleokus> gavagai, yes /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:37] <_rodney> you can only have 4 primary partitions delete the excess ones and make them as extended partitions instead ;)
[03:37] <gavagai> oh ok
[03:37] <ome> im having trouble editing fstab, Should i use nano or gedit?
[03:37] <jonatan> oh shit
[03:37] <_rodney> nano ;)
[03:37] <_rodney> as root ;)
[03:37] <_rodney> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:37] <gavagai> filleokus, grep that file instead for 'allow'
[03:37] <gavagai> or just take a look at it with 'less'
[03:37] <_rodney> or more ... but less is more ;)
[03:37] <nandovieira> how do I disable a mod on apache? a2enmod allows to disable?
[03:38] <MrKeuner> hi, did anybody using ati chipset graphics drivers has recently upgraded to 2.6.15-25-686 kernel on dapper? My 3D is broken now. any help is appreciated
[03:38] <Stork> nandovieira, #apache
[03:38] <filleokus> gavagai, yes, but what should i look fore?
[03:38] <nandovieira> ok.. thank you
[03:38] <ome> how do i add a line using nano?
[03:38] <_rodney> just type it in
[03:38] <_rodney> nano is just an editor... not another language to learn as well ;)
[03:39] <ome> i can move cursor
[03:39] <ome> cant
[03:39] <_rodney> cursor keys
[03:40] <Stork> is it worth using reiserFS instead of ext3 with ubuntu breezy?
[03:40] <_rodney> yep ;)
[03:40] <_rodney> always just use reiserfs ;)
[03:40] <ome> how do i save in nano?
[03:40] <Stork> cool
[03:40] <_rodney> cntrl + x
[03:40] <_rodney> then Y
[03:40] <_rodney> then enter ;)
[03:40] <Igramul> Stork: I disagree.
[03:40] <filleokus> ome ctrl o
[03:40] <_rodney> ;)
[03:40] <zhenr1> if you've &'d a process, and then log out and come back how do you get it in the foreground again?
[03:40] <Stork> Igramul, why?
[03:41] <_rodney> fg %1
[03:41] <_rodney> or type jobs first to get the correct job numbner...
[03:41] <Igramul> Stork: It is not any better than xfs but less stable.
[03:41] <zhenr1> _rodney: no such job...that only works if you are in the same terminal I think
[03:42] <zhenr1> _rodney: I've logged out and then logged back in so I've got a process number but no job
[03:42] <ome> Good stuff!!!! work like a charm, thanks guys
[03:42] <yule> does anyone now when fluxbox 1.0rc will be integrated into the dapper-repo ?
[03:42] <_rodney> i dont think you can ? anyone know ?
[03:43] <larson9999> linux rock!
[03:44] <_rodney> youd have to detach the input and output and reattach it to anotther term... or somit... i think its possible.. but not sure how to do it...
[03:44] <Stork> Igramul, it's faster and takes less space
[03:44] <oasick> hi
[03:44] <_rodney> hey hey ;)
[03:45] <ome> now to the long ass flash 8 from windows install tutorial, catcha later
[03:45] <_rodney> have fun
[03:45] <_rodney> lol ;)
[03:46] <ome> for those wondering, heres the flash 8 from windows tutorial link for use with wine. http://bkcreation.info/Blog_Macromedia8OnWine.html
[03:47] <matid> Hi, can anyone tell me what's the difference between vim-gtk and vim-gnome?
[03:47] <ome> is there a way i can give myself super user in ubuntu? for when i gotta copy alot of directorys ?
[03:47] <_rodney> sudo bash
[03:47] <ome> So i dont gotta type them all in
[03:47] <ome> k thanks
[03:47] <larr1> one of my favorite things on ubuntu is the Places > Connect to server in the menu.  Is that any specific program under the covers, is it something in gnome desktop?  I've never seen it in another distro
[03:48] <ome> how to i log out of super user?
[03:48] <ome> or reverse it
[03:48] <_rodney> matid very little.. library use and packaging...
[03:48] <neutrinomass> ome: 'exit' ...
[03:48] <_rodney> exut
[03:48] <ome> k
[03:48] <_rodney> yea ;)
[03:48] <Geev8> hi u all
[03:48] <matid> _rodney: isn't it confusing?
[03:48] <neutrinomass> ome: Don't make 'sudo bash' a habit. You hardly ever need a root console. Use 'sudo command' instead :)
[03:48] <matid> _rodney: Which should I use in Ubuntu and why are they any different?
[03:48] <_rodney> yep alittle
[03:49] <_rodney> if your using gnome use the gnome one otherwise the gtk... its just saving some memory and library space i think
[03:49] <_rodney> gnome contains the gtk stuff already as its based on it i think...
[03:50] <matid> _rodney: Thanks
[03:50] <cppnewbie> hey all, i saw the guide for mp3 on ubuntu wiki, yet it shows a deb file which is for i386. where can i find a guide for mp3 on amd64?
[03:50] <_rodney> they both use gtk see.. but kde doesnt... which is more popular
[03:50] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: Hi. You will need gstreamer plugins from the universe repository.
[03:51] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell cppnewbie about mp3
[03:51] <kdingo> agh something weird's happened
[03:51] <_rodney> ?
[03:51] <cppnewbie> neutrinomass: ah k, will do
[03:51] <kdingo> somehow /bin/chmod has been chmod'd to rw-r--r--
[03:52] <_rodney> hmm
[03:52] <cppnewbie> after i install gstreamer plugins, will the files be automatically associated with it?
[03:52] <neutrinomass> kdingo: lol ! Are you sure ?
[03:52] <_rodney> cppnewbie: yep ;)
[03:52] <spartas> has anyone had success setting up 3ware's 3dm monitoring utility for hardware raid devices on ubuntu?
[03:52] <Geev8> any body can help me to sort out my problem
[03:52] <kdingo> i'm absolutely sure
[03:52] <Geev8> I cant save/copy file to floppy it says i dont have permission
[03:52] <kdingo> i have no idea how it happened
[03:52] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: Yes. Depends whether you are on Kubuntu or Ubuntu. AFAIK, you'll needdifferent plugins (xine plugins versus gstreamer). The wiki page should expain it :)
[03:53] <neutrinomass> kdingo: sudo aptitude reinstall coreutils ?
[03:53] <_rodney> Geev8: you need change fstab so users can
[03:53] <kdingo> thanks i'll try that
[03:53] <neutrinomass> kdingo: (this must be one of the most-impossible-problems-ever :P )
[03:53] <pom> when I use aticonfig --lsp there are 3 modes (to save power), how can I go to low usage mode automatically when I am running on battery?
[03:53] <cppnewbie> neutrinomass: well i actually installed ubuntu, yet i installed kubuntu-desktop afterwards. i wouldnt know what to do in this case :\
[03:53] <kdingo> like the chicken and the egg
[03:54] <kdingo> pmsl thank you!! it's fixed
[03:54] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: If you've installed kubuntu-desktop, it's just like having Kubuntu. It's the same distribution, the desktop changes :) Read the wiki pages, there's a list of packages that you'll need for both KDE+ Gnome... You have enabled the universe repo, right ?
[03:55] <kdingo> i still don't know how/why it happened.. files don't randomly chmod themselves
[03:55] <kdingo> maybe i was pwned
[03:55] <kdingo> lol
[03:55] <cppnewbie> um, i dun think so, at least in my sources.list there is no universe entry, only multiverse
[03:56] <adsfasdfafd> does anyone know the command to let me get the refresh and sync rates for my monitor?
[03:56] <Geev8> rodney: i did it and this is the line /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000,umask=000  0       0
[03:56] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: You needn't bother with the sources.list, you can enable universe and multiverse from synaptic. If something goes wrong, you can try source-o-matic that will generate a sources.list for you
[03:56] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell cppnewbie about source-o-matic
[03:57] <mirak> I have no sound on the center channel with VLC in 5.1
[03:57] <cppnewbie> ah k will do
[03:57] <ome> Wouldnt sudo bash just make it like im in windows for a short time? in terms of securtiy
[03:57] <neutrinomass> kdingo: Likely ....
[03:57] <neutrinomass> kdingo: I'm not even sure you can chmod chmod. Let me try it ...
[03:57] <mirak> ome: sudo login
[03:58] <neutrinomass> kdingo: Apparently, it is possible :|
[03:58] <kdingo> neutrinomass: crazy
[03:59] <adsfasdfafd> does anyone know the command to let me get the refresh and sync rates for my monitor?
[03:59] <adsfasdfafd> Ubuntu doesn't read them, for some reason
[03:59] <_rodney> erm you there are auto probe tools i think
[04:00] <_rodney> but ubuntu isnt finding em.. then they are not finding em
[04:00] <adsfasdfafd> no..the last time i installed ubuntu i ran a command that found those rates...then i edited xorg.conf and added them manually
[04:00] <adsfasdfafd> i bought a new HDD last night and am going to replace my old linux drive with the new one, so i'l lhave to resintall
[04:00] <zenit> adsfasdfafd: you can run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <adsfasdfafd> and i can't remember that command
[04:00] <adsfasdfafd> zenit:  thanks.  :))))
[04:01] <zenit> adsfasdfafd: or as you said, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Anyway, you have to restart X after the change
[04:01] <zenit> adsfasdfafd: you are welcome
[04:02] <scacco[] > hi people
[04:02] <Geev8> _rodney: still am looking for your help how can i change fstab
[04:03] <_rodney> oh sorry you seem to have done it correctly that fstab line is right i think
[04:03] <_rodney> saving it should allow you to write to the floppy
[04:04] <_rodney> unless your rawwritting the dev... you need to be superuser for that... sudo comand
[04:04] <_rodney> sorry i read what you said and thought youd fixed it
[04:06] <cppnewbie> how can i create a 32 bit chroot for 32bit libs and apps?
[04:08] <Geev8> I cant save/copy file to floppy it says i dont have permission who can help me?
[04:08] <Seveas> !info firefox
[04:08] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7720 kB, Installed size: 22868 kB
[04:09] <Igramul> Geev8: Is the floppy write-protected?
[04:09] <Seveas> !info xgalaga
[04:09] <ubotu> xgalaga: (X11 version of the famous Galaga game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 2.0.34-32ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 254 kB, Installed size: 804 kB
[04:09] <cppnewbie> arg ffs, i just installed mp3s, yet now i have the problem that there is no bass playing :\ they're 5.1 speakers
[04:09] <Geev8> Igramul no it is open
[04:10] <IUnknown> hello gyus
[04:10] <IUnknown> how are ya all...
[04:11] <Geev8> Igramul: i was able to format it
[04:11] <Draconicus> cppnewbie: Check alsamixer and turn up the appropriate "center" volume and such for your card's control over the other speakers.
[04:11] <Igramul> Geev8: Maybe it is not mounted. Try reinserting it.
[04:12] <cppnewbie> Draconicus: i take it up or down, no change, its not the configuration, its like the bass isnt used at all :\
[04:12] <Draconicus> Inserting a floppy doesn't mount it, Igramul.
[04:12] <cppnewbie> as a speaker i mean itself
[04:12] <Geev8> Igramul: i did it i un-mounted then remounted it again
[04:13] <Netcad> what is the command for removing all files that has suffix/prefix "move" on filenames?
[04:13] <Geev8> Igramul: I can see floppy icon on my screen
[04:13] <Draconicus> Weird... I've never heard of automounting floppies...
[04:13] <Igramul> Draconicus: I thought Ubuntu uses automount for floppies...
[04:13] <Draconicus> cppnewbie: Is your subwoofer attached to the other speakers, or is it on its own line to the card?
[04:13] <Draconicus> Igramul: That's a very bad idea. :\
[04:13] <Igramul> Draconicus: I know ;)
[04:13] <cppnewbie> Draconicus: its got its own line
[04:14] <neutrinomass> cppnewbie: (stupid comment) Is the channel turned on ? Try hitting enter ...
[04:14] <Draconicus> cppnewbie: Then tinker with the different levels in alsamixer until you hear your bass change. One of them controls it.
[04:14] <IUnknown> is there a .NET interop plan for Linux?
[04:14] <bilss> ssh keeps dropping after about an hour on line if i try to connect from a remote host to my box on port 22 it times out any ideas?
[04:14] <Igramul> IUnknown: It is called mono.
[04:14] <ome> Hey, I rebooted and my ntfs drive isnt there now
[04:14] <IUnknown> So, there's a C# in Linux?
[04:15] <paniq> yes, IUnknown.
[04:15] <MrKeuner> hi, did anybody using ati chipset graphics drivers has recently upgraded to 2.6.15-25-686 kernel on dapper? My 3D is broken now. any help is appreciated
[04:15] <paniq> IUnknown: AddRef.
[04:15] <paniq> IUnknown: now you cant go until i release you.
[04:15] <IUnknown> Is there also COM in Linux?
[04:15] <paniq> IUnknown: HAHAHAHA.
[04:15] <paniq> IUnknown: there is XPCOM for firefox, but honestly, COM is not required in linux
[04:15] <ome> jonatan: you there?
[04:16] <paniq> IUnknown: in windows, COM primarily solves the problem of having to acquire classes of which one usually does not know where to find them
[04:16] <IUnknown> How is XPCOM compared with COM?
[04:16] <paniq> IUnknown: in linux, all libraries can be found in /usr/lib, so why make it more complicated?
[04:17] <bilss> neutrinomass: any ideas about my problem?  ssh keeps dropping after about an hour on line if i try to connect from a remote host to my box on port 22 it times ou
[04:17] <paniq> IUnknown: see the mozilla page for that. they primarily use it for their own projects, and i dont think it makes sense to use it all through the system
[04:17] <IUnknown> Is there also UUID in Linux ?
[04:17] <paniq> IUnknown: yes.
[04:17] <IUnknown> how is it used?
[04:17] <paniq> IUnknown: its provided by libuuid, comes with a binary named uuid
[04:17] <Geev8> Oh! shit it is better to use windows because it dont have this complication even you people you dont help me to solve my problem
[04:17] <paniq> IUnknown: you call uuid and it spits out a new guid ;)
[04:18] <bilss> nickrud@ hows things long time no chat
[04:18] <Igramul> IUnknown: What is Your point?
[04:18] <Stork> Geev8, haha, then you'd have to speak to the outsourced windows support people :)
[04:18] <paniq> igramul, he's just asking coder questions
[04:18] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:18] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:18] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:18] <IUnknown> componentization..
[04:18] <paniq> igramul, be nice
[04:18] <IUnknown> and software evolution..
[04:18] <paniq> IUnknown: as said, i dont think it is neccessary to make it any more complicated as it needs to be
[04:18] <neutrinomass> bilss: Not really. Did you try what ompaul suggested earlier ?
[04:18] <yennicq> hi all
[04:18] <larson9999> a swiss army knife mp3 player.  sweet
[04:18] <paniq> IUnknown: microsoft invented COM because they can afford it to produce complicated solutions...
[04:18] <IUnknown> So how you do see .NET?
[04:19] <Geev8> Stork: u see u respond to this but no help to my problem
[04:19] <paniq> IUnknown: .NET works in linux and is called mono. large parts of the framework have been translated, with the exception of Windows.Forms, for which is gtk# in linux
[04:19] <Igramul> paniq: sorry, I just wanted to know if there is a specific problem
[04:19] <bilss> well sort of i did not understand what he ment and he had gone when i replied
[04:19] <IUnknown> So Linux likes the idea of managed code?
[04:19] <yennicq> does someone know how to install ubuntu Server 6.06?
[04:19] <Stork> Geev8, i'm busy with my own problem here :p
[04:19] <paniq> IUnknown: for more info, i suggest visiting gimpnet #mono
[04:19] <paniq> IUnknown: yes
[04:20] <purduepepe> I just installed it as an update
[04:20] <IUnknown> How do you see Gentoo?
[04:20] <purduepepe> it came up automaticaly
[04:20] <XVampireX> IUnknown, Managed code is good
[04:20] <paniq> IUnknown: gentoo requires all packages to be built on the client machine, which is unneccessary in my opinion.
[04:20] <LjL> i don't know what managed code *is*. can you explain that to me... in #ubuntu-offtopic? ;-)
[04:20] <IUnknown> XVampireX, but how does it fare in firmware or embeeded developemnt?
[04:20] <yennicq> i'm following this tutorial : http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p5 but it doesn't work
[04:20] <Geev8> Stork: ok but where can i go or ask my problem to be sorted out
[04:21] <bilss> neutrinomass: i am not sure if i understood fully what ompaul was suggesting and he was gone when i replied
[04:21] <ome> Anyone know why my ntfs drive wont who up in file browser? I just configured it to work and it was working fine. I rebooted and now its not showing up
[04:21] <XVampireX> IUnknown, I think the discussion should be put to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <purduepepe> well I just installed it and now I cant get a flash player
[04:21] <IUnknown> Is there a way that Linux and Windows can co-exist?
[04:22] <cparker> IUnknown: You probably want to set up a dual-boot environment.
[04:22] <purduepepe> irf you were running ubutu it should be available as an update
[04:22] <IUnknown> I mean,...they will become allies...
[04:22] <martellof> ^^
[04:22] <IUnknown> like MAC and Windows now..
[04:22] <cparker> IUnknown: huh?
[04:22] <neutrinomass> bilss: ompaul suggested that you keep the connection alive by pinging something - it's not a fix, but it's a first step
[04:22] <Frrderick> bilss: ompaul suggested that you keep the connection alive by ponging something - it's not a fix, but it's a first step
[04:23] <BlueEagle> geev8: What was your problem again?
[04:23] <Frrderick> The answer is 42! just try it out!
[04:23] <IUnknown> Question, how is managed code translate to embeeded development...?
[04:23] <purduepepe> can anyon advise me on how to get a flashplayer
[04:23] <Curt> IUnknown:  do you mean both linux and windows running simultaneously on one box?  (not dual-boot but both active at the same time) ?  or do you mean some sort of political statement ("Microsoft creates MS Office for Linux, Linus Torvalds codes in .NET") or ... ?
[04:23] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:23] <BlueEagle> !flash
[04:23] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:23] <Geev8> BlueEagle: I cant save/copy file to floppy it says i dont have permission
[04:24] <hachaboob> Hi. Has anyone gotten e-sata drives to pmount yet?
[04:24] <IUnknown> i mean. as a business partner..someday...providing services...
[04:24] <bilss> neutrinomass; he suggested in ssh doing ping -i 57 them either 127.0.0.1 or my boxip but ssh does not understand the word ping?
[04:24] <Frrderick> neutrinomass; he suggested in ssh doing pong -i 57 them either 127.0.0.1 or my boxip but ssh does not understand the word pong?
[04:24] <BlueEagle> geev8: Well that sounds odd. Which permissions are listed with `ls -l /etc/fd0` ?
[04:24] <hachaboob> I doesn't seem like HAL supports this yet...
[04:24] <cparker> IUnknown: fat chance
[04:24] <Curt> IUnknown:  don't hold your breath :)
[04:24] <neutrinomass> !ops
[04:24] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:24] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:24] <bilss> ok whats going on
[04:25] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: ?
[04:25] <neutrinomass> bilss: A bot ...
[04:25] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:25] <Seveas> neutrinomass, who?
[04:25] <IUnknown> Gates is now gone...
[04:25] <bilss> well killit
[04:25] <cparker> Would a channel operator please kick this stupid bot?
[04:25] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:25] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Frrderick can only be a bot :)
[04:25] <Frrderick> iam no bot. iam just stupid
[04:25] <Hobbsee> not that stupid bot again.
[04:25] <Seveas> not the first time that moron is in here
[04:25] <BlueEagle> geev8: make that ls -l /dev/fd0
[04:26] <IUnknown> What is the best Linux for a really geeky and a programmer???
[04:26] <neutrinomass> At first I was scared when he copied my post. The typo led me to believe that it was a truly remarkable coincidence <shame>
[04:26] <bilss>  neutrinomass; he suggested in ssh doing ping -i 57 them either 127.0.0.1 or my boxip but ssh does not understand the word ping?
[04:26] <krazykit> IUnknown: linux from scratch ;-)
[04:26] <cparker> IUnknown: It depends...
[04:26] <Stork> IUnknown, gentoo, maybe.
[04:26] <Geev8> BlueEagle: ls: /etc/fd0: No such file or directory
[04:26] <ome> convert it to ascii using "$ recode ucs-2..ascii yourfile.reg"  <<<<<< How do i accomplish this with a registry file? I tried that syntax in terminal and no go
[04:26] <IUnknown> How about Debian?
[04:27] <neutrinomass> bilss: You don't have 'ping' on your box ? Or are ICMP requests blocked ?
[04:27] <dragonfire2004> can some one help me, i have a static ip and i loose my dns settings after i reboot
[04:27] <^^angusta> IUnknown, ubuntu, server install, then spend the next few hours building X-server......
[04:27] <BlueEagle> geev8: hang on. :)
[04:27] <bilss> does he mean ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 in a terminal and mimamizise it yes i can ping but no in a ssh terminal
[04:27] <Seveas> !info firefox
[04:27] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7720 kB, Installed size: 22868 kB
[04:28] <BlueEagle> geev8: make that ls -l /dev/fd/0
[04:28] <bilss> neutrinomass:  does he mean ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 in a terminal and mimamizise it yes i can ping but no in a ssh terminal
[04:28] <IUnknown> I've been beginning to see the light,..and contemplating which Linux to choose..
[04:28] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:28] <anosa> test
[04:28] <nandovieira> what's the default sound driver? alsa?
[04:29] <Geev8> BlueEagle: lrwx------  1 root root 64 1980-01-04 08:25 /dev/fd/0 -> /dev/pts/0
[04:29] <Curt> IUnknown:  Gates hasn't been actively controlling MS for several years.  He's been more of a figurehead ever since he stepped down as president back in '98 or so.  Heck, he's been more concerned about his philanthropic efforts than running the company the past several years.  Microsoft has become a corporation run by a board of directors (headed by Ballmer for the most part) -- so Gates leaving won't make a difference.  MS is too big an
[04:29] <Curt> bah.  it's not like Gates has to work for a living!
[04:29] <BlueEagle> geev8: Is your floppy disk mounted?
[04:29] <neutrinomass> bilss: Hm... I don't really understand. Why don't you do 'ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 & ' , so that you can work while pinging ?
[04:29] <Geev8> BlueEagle: yes it is mounted
[04:30] <void^> nandovieira: alsa is usually the backend, and often a sound server like esd or arts is used
[04:30] <nandovieira> right...
[04:30] <BlueEagle> geev8: I see. Which file system is on the floppy?
[04:30] <morphix> how on Xubuntu, can i stop xfce4-panel from loading up when xfce4 does? i DO NOT want xfce4-panel
[04:30] <larson9999> i'm glad bill is doing this.  what i think he should do really is open open earlier versions of windows.
[04:30] <IUnknown> I think, that .NET and C# is nailing down Java...so Vista is going to be a really big OS for MS
[04:30] <nandovieira> until yesterday (before upgrading kernel) everything was right
[04:30] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:30] <Geev8> BlueEagle: vfat
[04:30] <nandovieira> now, listen don't work...
[04:31] <nandovieira> xmms works if I change sound driver to esound
[04:31] <BlueEagle> geev8: sudo umount /media/floppy && sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/fd/0 /media/floppy
[04:31] <pcfan> please someone?
[04:31] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:31] <BlueEagle> geev8: provided the mount point is /dev/floppy that is
[04:31] <cppnewbie> how can i create a 32 bit chroot on 64bit ubuntu?
[04:31] <BlueEagle> dang
[04:31] <Guilt> /etc/.xinitrc? ;)
[04:31] <Guilt> er
[04:31] <Guilt> ~/.xinitrc
[04:31] <BlueEagle> geev8: provided the mountpoint is /mnt/floppy ofcourse
[04:31] <Guilt> :)
[04:31] <BlueEagle> :)
[04:31] <IUnknown> Thank you for the nice insights..though they are a little far off..Thanks.
[04:32] <dark_light> larson9999, m$ will not change just because bill left
[04:32] <[Surge] > When do CAPS bans expire?
[04:32] <Geev8> BlueEagle: hang on...
[04:32] <bilss> neutrinomass: ok lets start again the problem is not while i am connected it is connecting from a remote host, if my labtop has not been active for more than an hour the ssh drops i get time out so is the suggestion that i open a terminal before leving my labtop and type  > ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 and leave it running while i am away?
[04:32] <Guilt> LPVOID iUnknown \o/
[04:32] <larson9999> dark_light: i didn't say it would.  i was just saying what i think should happen :)
[04:32] <[Surge] > A noob made the mistake and wants to know when he can come back.
[04:33] <Guilt> IUnknown is used in M$oft functions... :>
[04:33] <neutrinomass> bilss: Yes :( Try filing a bug report as well, although I don't know against what you should file it .... maybe the kernel ?
[04:33] <M3G4crux> Hi
[04:34] <apokryphos> [Surge] : who?
[04:34] <M3G4crux> is there any channel for Xgl?
[04:34] <apokryphos> M3G4crux: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:34] <[Surge] > apokryphos: neopsyche
[04:34] <M3G4crux> thanks
[04:34] <dark_light> larson9999, i don't expect so much code from m$
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello All, just installed UB and I LIKE it..  I tried KU but it kept crashing.
[04:34] <bilss> o dear i wonder if smtp drops as well on port 25
[04:34] <Guilt> http://www.ubuntu.com/htdocs/uweb/menu/top-img-community.png <-- nice image
[04:34] <Geev8> BlueEagle: root@Tech01:/home/t01 # mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/fd/0 /media/floppy
[04:34] <Geev8> mount: /dev/fd/0 is not a block device
[04:34] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:34] <[Surge] > apokryphos:  *!*@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za
[04:34] <Guilt> a nice group of people sitting together to code ubuntu :D
[04:34] <ome> Anyone know how to do this ? "recode ucs-2..ascii yourfile.reg". Im trying to recode a windows registry file and the syntax wont work in terminal.
[04:34] <dark_light> shared source will not help me, too, so i don't care if they open the win95's code
[04:35] <Guilt> is that how is happens? some kinda' social coding party? ;)
[04:35] <pcfan> Guilt: are you bored?
[04:35] <Guilt> oh yeah :( i am.
[04:35] <schultzconsult> Hi, anyone who have played with subversion scripts for nautilus
[04:35] <avalost> anyone have any ideas: I tried to log in to my webhost however they moved my stuff to a different server now the DSA host key is different, how do I overcome this?
[04:35] <pcfan> Gulit: I was in your state two days ago, so I installed some stuff on my windows and ruined it :-)
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Some people are saying that If you install Ubuntu then KDE you have a better more stable program than KUbuntu
[04:36] <avalost> err ssh to my webhost ^
[04:36] <BlueEagle> geev8: ouch...
[04:36] <iamsumesh> hai
[04:36] <Hobbsee> Jack_Sparrow: shouldnt make any difference
[04:36] <schultzconsult> I have installede them trough synaptic, but they do not appear under scripts in nautilus
[04:36] <BlueEagle> geev8: Then I don't know which device the floppy is on. :/
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> SOme people are swearing it does.
[04:36] <BlueEagle> geev8: it _should_ be on /dev/fd/0 imo
[04:36] <bilss> neutrinomass: if my labtop is running say a mail server that terminal pinging is going to get pretty big?
[04:36] <pcfan> Guilt: I was in your state two days ago, so I installed some stuff on my windows and ruined it :-)
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu has not crashed or had a problem, I have not installed KDE ...yet...
[04:37] <M3G4crux> where is the aclocal file?
[04:37] <Guilt> i can't install any Linux on my machine
[04:37] <larson9999> err how do i get this? XML::Parser perl module
[04:37] <M3G4crux> in which package I mean
[04:37] <Guilt> kernel panic coz there are both i810 and nV
[04:37] <Guilt> :/
[04:37] <Taikumi> Hello, could someone help me with something? =/
[04:37] <Allz-i-> hello -i am trying to creat my own music -what program is best to use
[04:37] <M3G4crux> what is nV?
[04:37] <Allz-i-> ?
[04:37] <M3G4crux> nvidia?
[04:37] <bilss> where do i file a bug report and what do i say
[04:37] <schultzconsult> Guilt: Have you tryed disabling the onboard card?
[04:38] <Taikumi> I'm trying to get my sound card working.. Just installed Ubuntu and it seems that it's not working. x-x
[04:38] <pcfan> Guilt: well I can't help you, i don't know even what i810 and nV means, but I succeeded installing linux
[04:38] <Kyral> Its the free opensource NVidia driver
[04:38] <neutrinomass> bills : 'ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 &> /dev/null ' It will run in the background and never bother you :)
[04:38] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[04:38] <pcfan> Oh
[04:38] <Kyral> Inferior to the Offical driver
[04:38] <pcfan> I have an nvidia graphic card too
[04:38] <Kyral> but has an advantage in that it isn't a "Binary Blob"
[04:38] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[04:38] <M3G4crux> I see
[04:38] <schultzconsult> iamsumesh: Yes, what is your question?
[04:38] <iamsumesh> thnks
[04:38] <Allz-i-> hello -i am trying to creat my own music -what program is best To Use -plzzz ppl someone -knowz
[04:38] <larson9999> Taikumi: i had problems with my sound, too.  my problem was related to acpi.  i had to put in the kernel optin acpi=noirq
[04:39] <Taikumi> swt..
[04:39] <CD1> Larson:  I have libxml-parser-perl installed.  I'm pretty sure that's the package that contained XML::Parser
[04:39] <Taikumi> I have no idea what you just said. XD
[04:39] <MrKeuner> hi, did anybody using ati chipset graphics drivers has recently upgraded to 2.6.15-25-686 kernel on dapper? My 3D is broken now. any help is appreciated
[04:39] <Kyral> Binary Blobs refer to things that you cannot get sourcecode to
[04:39] <iamsumesh> i want to Know how i connect my 2 ububtu pC using Terminal server client
[04:39] <pcfan> Does someone in this channel uses the new cxacru module in the new ubuntu kernel?
[04:39] <Guilt> it's like
[04:39] <Geev8> BlueEagle: when i use  /dev/fd0 it mounted the floppy but when it is/dev/fd/0 it say mount: /dev/fd/0 is not a block device
[04:39] <Kyral> iamsumesh do you have SSH running on your Ubuntu box?
[04:39] <Guilt> my mobo has both Intel onboard video and an AGP slot (which houses a GeForce FX)
[04:40] <schultzconsult> iamsumesh: one ubuntu box to the other?
[04:40] <BlueEagle> geev8: I though there were no such file or direcotry /dev/fd0
[04:40] <Guilt> and that causes xubuntu to crash
[04:40] <schultzconsult> or both to one windows/linux box?
[04:40] <Guilt> a kernel panic occurs, the stack trace indicates intel 810
[04:40] <BlueEagle> geev8: Ahh, my bad.
[04:40] <larson9999> MrKeuner: i had problems and went back to 2.6.15.23 :)
[04:40] <Guilt> it happens with every Linux thing out there
[04:40] <BlueEagle> geev8: ls -l /dev/fd0
[04:40] <iamsumesh> Two Ubuntu 5.10 PC
[04:40] <pcfan> well, can't you just remove the intel graphic card?
[04:40] <pcfan> *Guilt
[04:40] <schultzconsult> Guilt: Try disable the i810 graphic card in the bios
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Guilt how is your onboard hardware setup
[04:41] <cppnewbie> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:41] <cppnewbie> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:41] <Geev8> BlueEagle: ok hold on
[04:41] <Guilt> i did.
[04:41] <cppnewbie> hm, i tried to launch glxgears as a test for how fast it goes and it gives me this error :
[04:41] <cppnewbie> whoops
[04:41] <jani_> pcfan... its integrated to mobo
[04:41] <cppnewbie> sorry
[04:41] <bilss> neutrinomass so just open a terminal and run ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 &>/dev/null   is this line correct are the spaces correct?
[04:41] <Guilt> i've set the AGU as the default thing.
[04:41] <Guilt> it's like Solaris with X11 works.
[04:41] <Guilt> it must be a problem with the detection
[04:41] <Taikumi> It is so wierd.. it was playing music yesterday too. x-x
[04:41] <Duke_Forever> hello
[04:41] <pcfan> Gulit: I was in your state two days ago, so I installed some stuff on my windows and ruined it :-)
[04:41] <Guilt> or with the stupid i810 driver itself
[04:41] <neutrinomass> bilss: ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 &>/dev/null  &
[04:41] <iamsumesh> one ubuntu box to the other ububtu
[04:41] <mohkohn> does the ubuntu server iso come with aide or tripwire or some other integrity checker?
[04:41] <Guilt> my Windows is working FINE
[04:41] <Guilt> :)
[04:41] <neutrinomass> bilss: That should be the correct line...
[04:41] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:41] <bilss> ok
[04:42] <Guilt> brb
[04:42] <pcfan> I am stupid!!!!!! yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Guilt my car runs fine it has nothing to do with linux
[04:42] <Geev8> BlueEagle: It give me this line  "brw-rw----  1 root floppy 2, 0 1980-01-04 03:29 /dev/fd0"
[04:42] <mohkohn> to be more specific ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[04:42] <Duke_Forever> im a newbie looking for help
[04:43] <chmod775> Xine does'nt play movies properly on dapper
[04:43] <chmod775> I mean VCD
[04:43] <Allz-i-> Howto or what program is best to use -to creat music i mean my own music -i have done the lyric   -i need the program
[04:43] <Allz-i-> ;(
[04:43] <chmod775> do we have any other players
[04:43] <cparker> i'm having a problem adding a repo to Synaptic Package Manager. It's asking me to format an apt line, and I'm not really sure how to. The "repo" i'm trying to add is at http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[04:43] <larson9999> hmmm, is linux making it into any car chips these days?
[04:43] <rendo> When you connect a USB device, where does it show up in Ubuntu?
[04:43] <BlueEagle> geev8: groups
[04:43] <rendo> For example a digital camera.
[04:43] <BlueEagle> geev8: to check that you are a member of the "floppy" group
[04:44] <larson9999> rendo: for me it gets mounted under /media
[04:44] <Duke_Forever> the problem is when I try to change resolution it doesn't allow me to
[04:44] <larson9999> render: that seems to be the default
[04:44] <apokryphos> [Surge] : ok, he/she will be allowed in now, but please remind them to follow the CoC (/msg ubotu coc) in the future
[04:44] <MrKeuner> larson9999/ I see thank you
[04:44] <maddonkey> any1 know how to set read permissions in ubuntu? (only root has access to my windows drive, kinda annoying)
[04:44] <[Surge] > apokryphos: Ok thanks
[04:44] <bilss> neutrinomass ok thanks i will do it in a sh shell and minimize pa aux should tell me if its running
[04:45] <MrKeuner> larson9999/ did you also get this error: (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel.
[04:45] <MrKeuner> (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!
[04:45] <chmod775> !player
[04:45] <ubotu> chmod775: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:45] <fadeh> hi guys... i've set multiverse repository but i can't find make-jpkg, anyone knows where i can found it?
[04:45] <chmod775> !players
[04:45] <Geev8> BlueEagle: onto system/administratio/user groups or
[04:45] <ubotu> well, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[04:45] <Kyral> wtf Ubotu
[04:45] <neutrinomass> bilss: You're welcome, I hope it works out :)
[04:45] <cparker> so, anyone know what i would have to add to Synaptic Package Manager to get it to accept this repo? http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[04:45] <BlueEagle> geev8: in the console type: groups
[04:45] <Kyral> Hey!
[04:45] <BlueEagle> geev8: and see if floppy is there.
[04:45] <Kyral> players is missing Kaffiene and Codeien
[04:46] <apokryphos> cparker: that person's gpg key perhaps
[04:46] <larson9999> MrKeuner: don't know.  i just fooled around for a bit and figured i'd revert since i didn't have anymore time to fool around.
[04:46] <neutrinomass> cparker: I don't know if it can be done by synaptic, but you can just add that line in /etc/apt/sources.list (edit it with "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list")
[04:46] <Allz-i-> help -what program is best -to creat a music
[04:46] <Allz-i-> ?
[04:46] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:46] <Geev8> BlueEagle: hang on
[04:46] <bigfoot1> i downloaded googleearthlnux.bin. how do i run/install it?
[04:47] <chmod775> bigfoot1: chmo +x googleblah.bin
[04:47] <amar-ze> <bigfoot1 ./googleearth.bin should be OK
[04:47] <chmod775> and then ./googleblah.bin
[04:47] <jani_> bigfoot chmod +x "package"
[04:47] <chmod775> chmod
[04:47] <apokryphos> amar-ze: no, it'd have to be executable first.
[04:47] <fadeh> hi guys... i've set multiverse repository but i can't find make-jpkg, anyone knows where i can found it?
[04:47] <Geev8> BlueEagle: it display only root
[04:47] <amar-ze> then chmod it on 755
[04:47] <bilss> neutrinomass when i put that in a sh shell and press enter the curser comes back to the prompt again but inset  is [1]  5136
[04:47] <BlueEagle> geev8: o.O
[04:47] <neutrinomass> !info make-jpkg
[04:47] <larson9999> bigfoot1: is googlearth ready for linux?  i heard they were working on it.  i tried picasso and it worked fine
[04:47] <cppnewbie> how do i install the nvidia drivers, i can only find i386 ones and im currently on 64bits
[04:47] <neutrinomass> bilss: That'sthe PID of the process ... it tells you its running ...
[04:47] <apokryphos> cppnewbie: /msg ubotu nvidia
[04:48] <BlueEagle> geev8: mine reads: blueeagle adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin samba
[04:48] <apokryphos> cppnewbie: hi 8)
[04:48] <cppnewbie> :DD
[04:48] <BlueEagle> geev8: if yours only reads root you might have tried: sudo groups
[04:48] <neutrinomass> Bah, bug in ubotu? I got "already running (debian, freshmeat) => exceeded allowed forked processes count (1?)." in PM after the !info ...
[04:48] <fadeh> neutrinomass: nothing?
[04:48] <bilss> neutrinomass ok thanks hope it works
[04:48] <BlueEagle> geev8: you want only: groups
[04:48] <larson9999> bigfoot1: oh to install you i'm thinking you should sudo sh 'googlearth complete path'
[04:48] <cappiz> someone here ver tried : http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier ?
[04:48] <Geev8> BlueEagle: is o.0 a command to run or
[04:48] <cparker> neutrinomass: okay, i've added this line: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[04:48] <BlueEagle> geev8: ie. not as super user.
[04:48] <bigfoot1> from nautilus, how do i run it?
[04:48] <cparker> now i'm getting an error saying the line is malformed.
[04:48] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: it's in java-package
[04:48] <BlueEagle> geev8: yes, groups is a command
[04:49] <BlueEagle> geev8: and o.O is not a command it's a smiley
[04:49] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Oh, thanks.
[04:49] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[04:49] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[04:49] <fadeh> neutrinomass: just want to install ibm jre but i need make-jpkg, do u know where i can get .deb?
[04:49] <bigfoot1> larson9999: we have to install bin files?
[04:49] <jani_> bigfoot1, just double-click (or single-click) it on nautilus after making it executable
[04:49] <bigfoot1> jani_: ok. but my nautilus is wierd. it opens a text editor
[04:49] <apokryphos> fadeh: java-package, it's in Multiverse.
[04:49] <neutrinomass> fadeh: It's in multiverse. Enable the universe repo (/msg ubotu !universe ), "reload" in synaptic (or sudo apt-get update in a console) and you should be able to install it.
[04:49] <bigfoot1> how can i make it revert back to the normal , jani_?
[04:50] <Geev8> BlueEagle: i running all command onto root teminal so i dont use sudo command
[04:50] <larson9999> bigfoot1: to run a bin file you 'sh filepath/filename'.  i suppose that's the same as installing
[04:50] <jani_> bigfoot1, did you do chmod +x googlewhatever?
[04:50] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: you have to enable multiverse , not just universe :P
[04:50] <bigfoot1> jani_: yes
[04:50] <bigfoot1> i did
[04:50] <fadeh> i enabled it but i'm searching make-jpkg... maybe apokryphos it's right and it's in java-package
[04:50] <fadeh> let's see
[04:50] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[04:50] <BlueEagle> geev8: I really really REALLY recomend you don't use a root terminal. It is very easy to mess up your system.
[04:50] <cparker> iamsumesh: can you be more specific?
[04:50] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: I know, but I'm not sure if theres a !multiverse factoid - the universe one has info on the multiverse repo though.
[04:51] <apokryphos> iamsumesh: please don't repeat; we hear you, if someone is able/willing to help, they will. :)
[04:51] <bigfoot1> guys, my nautilus is messed up opening .bin files.
[04:51] <bigfoot1> it''s op.ening them with a text editor.
[04:51] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Apparently, no !multiverse factoid exists :)
[04:51] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: !repositories is good, they mgiht link to the same thing in fact.
[04:51] <bigfoot1> what program shoudl i choose in the "open with" thingy?
[04:51] <apokryphos> yeah, they do
[04:51] <BlueEagle> geev8: and besides that won't give you the groups of your user. :)
[04:51] <Geev8> BlueEagle: ok am going to close it right now i was not aware of that
[04:52] <iamsumesh> thnks
[04:52] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Again, no !repositories exists :P
[04:52] <BlueEagle> geev8: as root you are able to delete anything and everything with a simple mistake. That's not "a good thing"(tm) imo.
[04:52] <pcfan> does someone know how to launch a program before kicker at kde boot ?
[04:52] <mortal5> hey guys, I need some help with installing nvidia drivers
[04:52] <apokryphos> !repositories
[04:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[04:52] <BlueEagle> geev8: sorry, I've got to go. The clue is to be in the floppy group iirc.
[04:52] <larson9999> bigfoot1: type what i told you at a command line.  are you a command line phobic?
[04:52] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Didn't work in PM :-/
[04:52] <bigfoot1> larson9999: yes i am commandline phobic.
[04:52] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: mispelling?
[04:53] <Geev8> BlueEagle: thaks for ya help it is ok for today
[04:53] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Sort of. I pmed ubotu with "!repositories", instead of "repositories". Anyway, that's settled now :)
[04:53] <bigfoot1> larson9999: not phobic, but just like the convencience of nautilus
[04:53] <bigfoot1> of dbl clicking
[04:53] <pcfan> mortal5: just search for the nvidia drivers ubuntu packages .... in synaptic or something else, I don't remember the name of the package
[04:53] <larson9999> bigfoot1: hmmm i don't know if you can tell nautilus to run it.
[04:53] <cparker> okay.... i'll try this again. what line do I have to add to sources.list to get apt to recognize this repository? http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[04:53] <mortal5> pcfan: I have the driver installed
[04:53] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: gets me sometimes too 8)
[04:54] <mortal5> but now it says it "can't find module" or some crap
[04:54] <Allz-i-> hello -i am trying to creat my own music -what program can help Me creat it
[04:54] <HungryMind> hi! i'm pretty new to ubuntu and i would like to install fluxbox or wmaker. My PC is kind of slow and gnome is too heavy for it... apt-get is not working, it can find wmaker or fluxbox or blackbox... Synaptic isn't finding too... Anyone can help me?!
[04:54] <larson9999> bigfoot1: but since it's going to install stuff i like to be at the cli interface anyway
[04:54] <pcfan> mortal5: can you write exactly the print out?
[04:54] <cppnewbie> is there a way to disable the beeps heard when there is nothing to delete in the console?
[04:54] <apokryphos> HungryMind: I'd recommend xfce, it's better supported
[04:54] <Geev8> BlueEagle: am going to check those command you gave me may be i can lean something because am a beginer of linux os
[04:54] <HungryMind> i don't know that xfce...
[04:55] <apokryphos> HungryMind: ...and it's quite lightweight. But if you really wanted to you could still use fluxbox
[04:55] <HungryMind> is it lighter?
[04:55] <mortal5> pcfan: module not found
[04:55] <apokryphos> HungryMind: xfce is very lightweight, yes.
[04:55] <apokryphos> HungryMind: quite similar to GNOME, it uses GTK too.
[04:55] <larson9999> maybe that's why i've been meeting a lot of folks recently who seem to think that windows users are gui folks and afraid of the cli.  i use the cli as much in windows as a do in linux
[04:55] <HungryMind> i'll try to get it through apt-get...
[04:55] <pcfan> mortal5: I need to know where did you read this line
[04:55] <wulax> bigfoot1: you shouldn't use nautilus to open bin files, but a terminal so you can read any error messages
[04:55] <HungryMind> hope it find ...
[04:55] <apokryphos> HungryMind: install xubuntu-desktop
[04:55] <mortal5> pcfan: from the xorg diagonistic output
[04:55] <pcfan> mortal: In Xorg.0.log or on boot or something else?
[04:56] <mortal5> pcfan: the log
[04:56] <ppn> i downloade a deb package. how will i install it?
[04:56] <apokryphos> ppn: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[04:56] <tigerspirit> I'm a newbie running BB.  I accidentally deleted the automatic update notice on my upper panel.  I have now got the update-notifier icon there, but I need to know how to make it run automagically.  Can anyone tell me what i have to do to restore my default settings?
[04:56] <pcfan> mortal5: does it say what module wasn't found?
[04:57] <badboy> hi
[04:57] <ppn> thanks
[04:57] <HungryMind> it tells me "impossible to find package xfce"
[04:57] <mortal5> pcfan: yes, "nvidia"
[04:57] <bigfoot1> how come some programs open up links in firefox, and some in mozila, and some in opera?
[04:57] <bigfoot1> wierd?
[04:57] <HungryMind> what do I do now?! :)
[04:57] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[04:57] <apokryphos> HungryMind: are you on breezy?
[04:57] <cparker> iamsumesh: stop repeating
[04:57] <cparker> iamsumesh: i offered to help already
[04:57] <HungryMind> i'm on ubuntu 5.10
[04:57] <Snowfairy> Can anyone tell me why update-manager wants to update the 386 kernels when I'm running the k7 ones?
[04:57] <bigfoot1> so gimp's help file opens in mozilla. while google earth's warning opens in ifirfeox.
[04:57] <cappiz> someone here usign amavis and spamassassin?
[04:57] <apokryphos> HungryMind: so yup, you are. Ok, you will need to enable the Universe repository and then install xubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <mortal5> and "nvidia-glx"  and "nvidia-agp" when I tried that
[04:57] <apokryphos> HungryMind: to enable universe see /msg ubotu repositories
[04:57] <pcfan> mortal5: wait a minute
[04:58] <bigfoot1> how can i make all these links open up in one browser, and my selected browser being opera?
[04:58] <chmod775> !players
[04:58] <ubotu> [players]  Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[04:58] <M3G4crux> Hi
[04:58] <cparker> hmm... amaroK should be changed to Amarok.
[04:59] <Bazzi> cparker: it has.
[04:59] <Bazzi> it is now Amarok.
[04:59] <cparker> !players
[04:59] <ubotu> it has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[04:59] <Bazzi> oooh you mean that :>
[04:59] <pcfan> mortal5: what is the output of: locate nvidia |grep modules
[04:59] <larson9999> let's hopw this works.  google earth is one thing i used my wife'
[04:59] <larson9999> s pc for
[04:59] <nose> somebody help to upgrade a dappper?
[05:00] <mortal5> pcfan: suggest you join #flood, I dun wana get kicked from here
[05:00] <apokryphos> nose: upgrade a dapper, or to dapper?
[05:00] <igorzolnikov> plz... what is app for resize partition?
[05:00] <apokryphos> cparker: go for it :)
[05:00] <chmod775> Whenever I try running a VCD with xine I am getting this error if I launch xine from the terminal and try to play a VCD
[05:00] <chmod775> ashish@ash:~$ xine
[05:00] <chmod775> This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.4.
[05:00] <chmod775> (c) 2000-2004 The xine Team.
[05:00] <chmod775> xine: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_inp_vcd.so: undefined symbol: vcdinfo_get_seg_resolution
[05:00] <chmod775> ashish@ash:~$
[05:00] <apokryphos> chmod775: do not paste in here :)
[05:00] <pcfan> mortal5: ok
[05:00] <nose> to dapper
[05:00] <chmod775> i am sorry
[05:01] <chmod775> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:01] <apokryphos> igorzolnikov: gparted
[05:01] <badboy> hello,everyone
[05:01] <mortal5> chmod775: I can't use pastebin, I'm in the console right now
[05:01] <apokryphos> nose: check the FAQ
[05:01] <igorzolnikov> QTParted?
[05:01] <cparker> nose: if you want to upgrade from breezy to dapper, this should help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades#head-792e320b3976df97f0d8b47047e1bcc955fd2569
[05:01] <chmod775> huh mortal5
[05:01] <chmod775> ?
[05:01] <apokryphos> mortal5: use #flood then
[05:02] <apokryphos> igorzolnikov: that's right
[05:02] <apokryphos> hi badboy :)
[05:02] <chmod775> Folks I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15859
[05:02] <Graig> what package gives lame encoder?
[05:02] <igorzolnikov> i tried but... don't resize reiserfs
[05:02] <truzak> hello, when do we get (g)vim 7.0 package?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Graig -about restricted
[05:03] <iamsumesh> Any One Know How we use Terminal server client
[05:03] <gnomefreak> truzak: in edgy in oct
[05:03] <cparker> iamsumesh: really, now. quit it.
[05:03] <a1e> hi everyone!
[05:03] <navilon> hola
[05:03] <chmod775> can anyone help me with xine
[05:03] <chmod775> ?
[05:03] <a1e> I've a big problem: I can't access to the network (using cable)
[05:03] <iamsumesh> How remote login to a ubuntu
[05:03] <maddonkey> can any1 help me a bit with getting access to a ntfs drive? pm me pls
[05:03] <a1e> I can't communicate with my router
[05:03] <a1e> so Internet don't work
[05:03] <apokryphos> maddonkey: please read the FAQ
[05:03] <larson9999> yay! google earth works!
[05:03] <Scorpmoon> synaptic resource manager is very non-intuitive.. if I remove a Source, it is just gone.. there is no option to add a source repository again
[05:04] <apokryphos> =)
[05:04] <cppnewbie> :D
[05:04] <a1e> is there anyone that can help me?
[05:04] <Igramul> a1e: Do You have a router or just a modem?
[05:04] <a1e> a router
[05:04] <cparker> iamsumesh: you have to be running a vnc server on the remote Ubuntu machine.
[05:04] <a1e> but ping to the router don't work
[05:04] <ProN00b> somehow my system decided that i live in australia (and speak english) how can i tell it that i live in england ?
[05:04] <a1e> I don't receive any reply
[05:04] <dark_light> igorzolnikov, gparted is just a frontend. you need.. well, i think the package name is reiser4progs. or maybe reiserfsprogs.
[05:05] <cparker> iamsumesh: to the best of my knowledge, there is no RDP server that will run on Ubuntu yet.
[05:05] <dark_light> that is, on dapper
[05:05] <larson9999> ProN00b: move to australia
[05:05] <larson9999> :)
[05:05] <ProN00b> zomg, larson9999
[05:05] <morphix> there was a package back on breezy, was something like, sysconfv , it was for viewing current installed services and u could change the settings, eg. disabled the service totally
[05:05] <piphoe`> hey guys wats a good program for transferring files btw my kubuntu box & my xp box ??
[05:05] <JohnP789> I'd like to install Dapper on an existing LVM2 logical volume.  I can't see how to get the graphical installer to let me do that.  Any pointers?
[05:05] <a1e> it worked correctly with Ubuntu 6.06 beta1. then I formatted and installed Ubuntu 6.06 final. It stopped working
[05:05] <Igramul> a1e: What does ifconfig tell You about the network device the router is connected to?
[05:05] <a1e> ifconfig?
[05:06] <Igramul> a1e: It is a command line tool.
[05:06] <a1e> I'm sorry but I can't do that now: I'm on Windows (Internet don't wirk on ubuntu)
[05:06] <Graig> how do i get the lame encoder?
[05:06] <wulax> piphoe`: ftp or ssh
[05:06] <sugoruyo> hi all
[05:06] <a1e> however, I tried to use DHCP and also manual configuration
[05:06] <piphoe`> wulax, which ftp program comes with kubuntu ?
[05:07] <_nano_> Hi, has anyone tried Banshee? is it better than rythmbox?
[05:07] <a1e> neither of them worked
[05:07] <Kr0ntab> a1e, wired or wireless...
[05:07] <sugoruyo> _nano_: i tried banshee
[05:07] <a1e> wired = with cable? yes
[05:07] <wulax> piphoe`: onne by default, but you can install gftp with synaptic
[05:07] <sugoruyo> it's good
[05:07] <a1e> (I'm Italian, sorry :) )
[05:07] <erUSUL> morphix: try rcconf or bum
[05:07] <wulax> piphoe` (none)
[05:07] <_nano_> sugoruyo: k
[05:07] <sugoruyo> but i like rhythmbox better for a large collection
[05:07] <sugoruyo> because banshee does not have all those browsing function
[05:07] <_nano_> sugoruyo: but it doesn't detect changes in the collection
[05:08] <ProN00b> ale, you should call your provider how to get internet working on linux
[05:08] <a1e> it works on windows
[05:08] <wulax> piphoe`: you need to set up ftp servers on both the ubuntu and win computers though
[05:08] <JohnP789> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/partman-lvm/+bug/36627 seems to be relevant.
[05:08] <a1e> it's not an ISP problem
[05:08] <sugoruyo> _nano_: there's an option for that. it works for me
[05:08] <cparker> okay... could someone PLEASE help me here? I added the repository to my sources.list and Synaptic tries to look here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz when it should be looking here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/Packages.gz
[05:08] <_nano_> sugoruyo: k
[05:08] <a1e> It seems it doesn't communicate with the router
[05:09] <larson9999> ale broadband?  does your sound card work?
[05:09] <cppnewbie> a1e: wait, so lemme understand this, u have problems connecting with a router to internet?
[05:09] <^^angusta> ale, it's a cable -> machine problem, your ISP should know how ot setup linux with tehir cable box
[05:09] <sugoruyo> in edit>preferences>library there's a check box "Watch my library for changes"
[05:09] <a1e> 1. my ISP don't help me with router problem (Italian ISPs...)
[05:09] <larson9999> ^^angusta: that's rich.  you tell my cable company you're running linux and that ends the call.
[05:09] <ProN00b> ale, do you have to do anything special to get it to work on windows, like installing anything or doing any specifiy settings changes
[05:09] <^^angusta> lol
[05:09] <cppnewbie> a1e: cuz like cable, ethernet or usb?
[05:09] <wulax> piphoe`: samba network is also supposed to be good
[05:09] <a1e> no, on windows it works correctly
[05:09] <cppnewbie> wired i mean
[05:09] <cparker> How can I fix that so Synaptic looks in the right place?
[05:09] <a1e> it's ethernet
[05:10] <ProN00b> ale, they should really help you
[05:10] <a1e> they don't
[05:10] <cppnewbie> a1e: u on gnome or kde?
[05:10] <a1e> gnome
[05:10] <cppnewbie> well, in connections menu on gnome, theres the devices, maybe the ethernet device is off
[05:10] <ChakRa> ?
[05:10] <ProN00b> somehow my system decided that i live in australia (and speak english) how can i tell it that i live in england ?
[05:10] <a1e> no, I enabled it
[05:10] <cppnewbie> then it shouldve worked
[05:11] <a1e> It doesn't
[05:11] <ProN00b> ale, does it get an ip ?
[05:11] <Geev8> any boby knows at what time i can use floppy formatter before i mount or after
[05:11] <cppnewbie> weird then
[05:11] <mohkohn> rippa mate
[05:11] <sugoruyo> i have an apt related question
[05:11] <^^angusta> no, ProN00b the real question is: How do I move to Australia ;)
[05:11] <cppnewbie> ROFL
[05:11] <sugoruyo> i got two machines.
[05:11] <cparker> sugoruyo: good luck. i've been asking an apt-related question for a while now.
[05:11] <a1e> with DHCP it seems it doesn't get an ip
[05:11] <ProN00b> lol, ^^angusta someone else suggested that bevore
[05:11] <a1e> but I also configured it manually
[05:11] <sugoruyo> one runs ubuntu for a while now the other one just came out of the installer
[05:11] <^^angusta> ProN00b, gnome or kde?
[05:11] <kazuki> Hey how can i tell if i have SSH Running i want to be able to ssh into my computer ???
[05:12] <neutrinomass> a1e: Is this wired? What NIC do you have ?
[05:12] <a1e> wired
[05:12] <ppn> Hi, I found a GoogleEarth.deb package and when i try to install it using "sudo dpkg -i GoogleEarth.deb" i get "google earth depends on xorg however xorg is not installed" i tried "apt-get install xorg-common" and it says xorg is up to date but it also displays "xorg-common is already the newest version.
[05:12] <ppn> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[05:12] <ppn> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:12] <ppn>   googleearth: Depends: xorg but it is not installable
[05:12] <ppn> " Help!
[05:12] <sugoruyo> so i have software on the older install that i won't in the new one
[05:12] <a1e> NIC? wat's that?
[05:12] <chmod775> kazuki: ps aux | grep sshd
[05:12] <ProN00b> ale, what ip did you use (it is important that you use a similar ip and the same netmask it uses on windows)
[05:12] <a1e> I set the IP manually. The same as Windows'
[05:12] <neutrinomass> a1e: Do 'lspci' - you'll see the card somewhere there. Please copy paste just the line of the card here ...
[05:12] <ProN00b> a1e, nic is network inteface, or your lan card
[05:12] <sugoruyo> is it possible for me to install it from the other machine's apt cache?
[05:12] <Igramul> a1e: NIC is a network interface connector
[05:12] <Igramul> !nic
[05:12] <kazuki> chmod775: So if it outputs something that means its good to go ? i just have to open up port 22 and login ?
[05:13] <a1e> I have a NVidia
[05:13] <ubotu> Igramul: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:13] <a1e> Nvidia Gigabit ethernet card
[05:13] <chmod775> kazuki: what are u trying to do ?
[05:13] <ProN00b> a1e, did you set the netmask correctly too (as well as your dns server) ?
[05:13] <sugoruyo> like get the stuff that's in the cache of the other machine and also a list of packages to install from synaptic and have it install those?
[05:13] <Seveas> ppn, throw out that deb and install from the googleearth installer
[05:13] <kazuki> chmod775: SSH into computer from another computer
[05:13] <wulax> ppn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195382&highlight=google+earth
[05:13] <chmod775> yes
[05:13] <a1e> how do I see the netmask?
[05:13] <sugoruyo> does it automatically look in apt's cache for packages already installed?
[05:13] <chmod775> good to go
[05:13] <a1e> I set it manually
[05:13] <kazuki> okay
[05:14] <Geev8> You guys at what time i can use floppy formatter before i mount or after a floppy?
[05:14] <Jemt> Will the Ubuntu Breezy repositories be taken down within the next year or so? I'm downgrading fra Dapper to Breezy today - I've never seen a more unstable OS than Dapper in my entire life time
[05:14] <gnomefreak> a1e: ifconfig should show you
[05:14] <a1e> but if I do "ping 192.168.1.36" (My PC), I get replies. If I do "ping 192.168.1.1" (router) I don't get anything
[05:14] <Igramul> a1e: Try the following commands: ifconfig, tcpdump -i eth0, dmesg, to check if Your network device is online, transmitting packets aso.
[05:14] <a1e> I can't do these commands, 'cause I'm on windows now
[05:14] <ProN00b> a1e, you can always ping your own pc
[05:14] <a1e> yes, I can
[05:14] <roryy> cparker: have you read 'man sources.list' ? my guess would be you want a 'deb http://people.ubuntu.com/ ~seb128/deb/' line in sources.list
[05:14] <iiiears> Good Morning!
[05:14] <gnomefreak> a1e: ipconfig is windows command iirc
[05:15] <cparker> roryy: hmm... i'll try that.
[05:15] <ProN00b> a1e, the netmask is important (it usually looks like 255.255.255.0 or like 255.255.0.0)
[05:15] <iiiears> Hi gnomefreak!
[05:15] <a1e> that's my netmask
[05:15] <a1e> 255.255.255.0
[05:15] <Igramul> a1e: You could try to reduce the mtu of the interface.
[05:15] <gnomefreak> hi iiiears
[05:15] <ppn> thanks
[05:15] <a1e> mtu?
[05:15] <Igramul> a1e: Try ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400
[05:15] <ProN00b> a1e, make sure it really is, and it is on windows too
[05:16] <maddonkey> i cant get chmod to work on my ntfs drive. i've mounted it but only root has access to it. any suggestions?
[05:16] <Igramul> a1e: maximal packet size
[05:16] <a1e> Yes, it is on windows 255.255.255.0
[05:16] <Igramul> a1e: But that should not matter for a ping to Your router.
[05:16] <iiiears> Can i fool php scripts that ask for the non-free java?
[05:16] <ProN00b> a1e, is it the same on linux ?
[05:16] <HungryMind> i tried to add the universe repositories to synaptic, but when i did i got the message that it couldn't make the download for the following indexes...
[05:16] <HungryMind> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/universe/multiverse/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:16] <HungryMind> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/universe/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:16] <HungryMind> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/universe/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[05:16] <mohkohn> This might be a dumb question but. I have data (music, photos) on /dev/hda5. I have windows on /hda1,swap is /hda2. At this moment I have a knoppix-hd install on /dev/hda3
[05:16] <a1e> yes, I set that on linux too
[05:16] <wulax> maddonkey: have you used chown?
[05:16] <Igramul> a1e: btw, can You ping Your router from windows?
[05:16] <a1e> yes
[05:16] <ompaul> maddonkey,  an NTFS partition in fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1 / /mnt/windows ntfs user,umask=0222 0 0
[05:16] <HungryMind> i just can't install any other window manager to my system! :(
[05:16] <iiiears> Open source is better. :)
[05:16] <erUSUL> HungryMind: do not paste here please! use pastebin
[05:17] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[05:17] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:17] <sugoruyo> anyone?
[05:17] <HungryMind> sorry...
[05:17] <HungryMind> :(
[05:17] <ProN00b> a1e, did you try connecting to another computer instead of your router ?
[05:17] <a1e> Igramul: but on Linux I can't access to Internet... it's not only a question of "ping"
[05:17] <Jemt> HungryMind: apt-get install some-window-manager
[05:17] <a1e> I don't have any other pc
[05:17] <Jemt> HungryMind: That dosn't work ?
[05:17] <mohkohn> The question is. Can I install dapper on /dev/hda3 and use /dev/hda5 as /home without losing my music and photos?
[05:17] <kazuki> chmod775: When i try from inside it says connection refused
[05:17] <HungryMind> Jemt -> no it doesn't...
[05:17] <Geev8> Ale you must be confuse i see you have so many helpers select one at time
[05:17] <ProN00b> a1e, you should first get the ping working
[05:17] <Jemt> HungryMind: Any errors ?
[05:17] <Igramul> a1e: Again, try ifconfig to see if the interface is up and has its ip.
[05:17] <mohkohn> /dev/hda5 is ext3
[05:17] <HungryMind> Jemt -> it cant find blackbox, nor fluxbox nor xfce...
[05:18] <chmod775> kazuki: enable sshd daemon on the other machine and then try to ssh
[05:18] <ProN00b> a1e, don't you have another pc to irc, so we can help you live ?
[05:18] <Jemt> !tell HungryMind about repositories
[05:18] <a1e> I can't do ifconfig: I'm on windows
[05:18] <HungryMind> Jemt -> impossible to find package
[05:18] <a1e> no, I don't have an other pc, sorry
[05:18] <Igramul> a1e: and try dmesg and look out for error messages that might be related to Your network card.
[05:18] <kazuki> chmod775 other machine was windows and was running putty
[05:18] <Jemt> HungryMind: Take a look at the MSG
[05:18] <Jemt> HungryMind: PMSG
[05:18] <a1e> Igramul: I'M ON WINDOWS!
[05:18] <Igramul> a1e: Then REBOOT!
[05:19] <chmod775> kazuki: putty is just an utility to connect to the linux box, I dunno what are u trying to do?
[05:19] <iiiears> Can you edit the java version name given to a php script? to something like "Java-sun is okay but open source is a better idea"
[05:19] <kazuki> chmod775: im trying to SSH with putty from one computer into my linux box
[05:19] <mohkohn> ale in windows you should be able to look at your network settings
[05:19] <a1e> yes
[05:19] <ompaul> ale we can read LOWER CASE thanks
[05:19] <LjL> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 4194304 bytes) in /usr/share/php/DB/pgsql.php on line 357
[05:19] <a1e> I set on Ubuntu the same setings as Windows
[05:19] <chmod775> Enable sshd in the linux box and do a iptables -F if the firewall is blocking
[05:19] <LjL> gaaaaaa i hate it hate it hate it, i've been letting this run for like two hours
[05:19] <chmod775> and then try sshing
[05:20] <mohkohn> The numbers will usually be the same you just need to write these down and put them in ubuntu
[05:20] <LjL> err whoops sorry, i though i was in #-offtopic
[05:20] <HungryMind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 -> ok, i saw it.. i tried some of these approachs.. but it tells me that some of the repositories (the important ones i think) couldn't be downloaded
[05:20] <kazuki> chmod775: How do i enable sshd and also sudo iptables -F outputs nothing
[05:21] <mohkohn> I think in windows you can go to run>cmd> netstat -a for informtion if I remember right ale
[05:21] <_rodney> iptables -L
[05:21] <_rodney> man iptables
[05:21] <chmod775> kazuki: It will not output anything coz this temporary disables the firewall
[05:21] <chmod775> make sure sshd is running on the linux box
[05:21] <chmod775> ps aux | grep sshd
[05:21] <_rodney> firestarter ?
[05:22] <Cin> A twisted firestarter?
[05:22] <a1e> mohkohn: what do you need from netstat?
[05:22] <piqqy> does Xubuntu not have a raid config thing in the partitioner?
[05:22] <piqqy> even Ubuntu 5.10 had it
[05:22] <neopsyche> Hi everone
[05:22] <neopsyche> quite new to ubuntu
[05:22] <neopsyche> I want to create a file server
[05:22] <kazuki> chmod775: kazuki   *BLOCK* 0.0  0.0   *BLOCK*   796 pts/1    R+   11:21   0:00 grep sshd    is what it outputs *BLOCKED* was by me
[05:22] <a1e> the strange thing is that on Ubuntu 6.06 beta1 it worked...
[05:22] <neopsyche> that people can dial into
[05:22] <neopsyche> like a bbs
[05:22] <mohkohn> I would write all the numbers it has down there. Sorry it has been a while since I have been in windows.
[05:22] <neopsyche> but it would work the same way as a ISP
[05:23] <neopsyche> but only serving one HTTP site with files from the server
[05:23] <neopsyche> which people can dial into
[05:23] <gnomefreak> a1e: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <chmod775> Ok fire up the sshd daemon it's not running
[05:23] <kazuki> How
[05:23] <gnomefreak> a1e: there is no more beta
[05:23] <ROBOd> hello people
[05:23] <a1e> I can't use apt-get if Internet connection don't work
[05:23] <neopsyche> does anyone know how to configure someithong like taht?
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> Can anyone help me with hostapd (the one in dapper is compiled with madwifi-ng so am using madwifi-ng ) (madwifi-ng)
[05:23] <ROBOd> in ubuntu 5.10 i had glcore module for Xorg
[05:23] <Igramul> neopsyche: "dail in" = "log in via internet" or "dail in" = "call Your phone number with a modem and Your computer answers"?
[05:24] <a1e> I'm not on beta1, now I formatted and isntalled final
[05:24] <mohkohn> You can also get it from the TCP/IP settings in your Network Setup. in Control Panel. Write down them and put them in ubuntu.
[05:24] <neopsyche> interesting
[05:24] <ROBOd> in 6.06 i no longer have it, however i have the nvidia driver
[05:24] <kazuki> chmod775: How do i start up the deamon ?
[05:24] <chmod775> kazuki: please pick up a linux book and study the basics
[05:24] <chmod775> kazuki: /etc/init.d/sshd start
[05:24] <kazuki> chmod775: thank you
[05:24] <mohkohn> someone correct me if I am telling ale wrongly but that is how I connected with ubuntu.
[05:24] <ompaul> kazuki, read help.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <chmod775> kazuki: make sure u buy a linux book and read
[05:25] <ProN00b> a1e, maybe you should file an bug report
[05:25] <a1e> do you think it's a bug?
[05:25] <ROBOd> unreal tournament cannot initialize glcore
[05:25] <kazuki> chmod775: i am learning slowly i just need this working because i got to leave and have to use it. bash: /etc/init.d/sshd: No such file or directory
[05:25] <_rodney> you dont buy books... unless you like too.. read online howtos etc... theres plenty its all there...
[05:26] <piqqy> why isn't Xubuntu 6.06 letting me do a raid config in the partitioner?
[05:26] <chmod775> then u don't have sshd install it
[05:26] <gnomefreak> chmod775: there is no reason to tell people to buy a book when what they need is right at their hands
[05:26] <sugoruyo> can't anyone help with apt?
[05:26] <ompaul> ale if beta worked then system administration networking from the menu help
[05:26] <a1e> I did that
[05:26] <ProN00b> a1e, well, it sounds pretty simple to me, "it worked bevore" -> "it doesn't work now" and you can asume that its not your fault, right, a1e ?
[05:26] <intuosman> hello, question: is it possible to connect (peer to peer) 2 PC's, thru a scsi bus (each will have scsi card of their own)? If so, what type of cable can be used?
[05:26] <chmod775> gnomefreak: I am not telling people that I wont help
[05:26] <_rodney> its pointless buying linux books... its outta date prolly as you buy...
[05:26] <a1e> yes, I think...
[05:26] <a1e> may it be related to ACPI? (I had to disable it to use Linux)
[05:27] <ProN00b> a1e, can you boot linux and tell us what you get when you do ifconfig
[05:27] <a1e> ok
[05:27] <chmod775> kazuki: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:27] <a1e> see u soon (I hope)
[05:27] <mohkohn> Will making /dev/hda5 an ext3 filesystem with my music on it as my /home destroy the data on it?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> chmod775: i didnt say you were but they can fix their problems if you gave them either a wiki or help.ubuntu.com instead of go buy a book
[05:27] <zOap> how do I change the url in the firefox progress icon? in ubuntu it goes to the ubuntu page, but I want it to to the original firefox page..
[05:28] <ompaul> sugoruyo, check out apt-proxy it works
[05:28] <chmod775> gnomefreak: Yeah ur right
[05:28] <krazykit> _rodney: i disagree.  there are many concepts outlined in the books that are still valid years later.  i have an old red hat 7 book that still is a useful reference
[05:28] <kazuki> chmod775: Thanks it works :D
[05:28] <chmod775> Great
[05:28] <sugoruyo> ompaul: where can i get more info on that?
[05:28] <chmod775> Amazing kazuki enjoy
[05:28] <gnomefreak> z0find the ff url you want and open up ff prefferences and put it in there
[05:28] <chmod775> hey krazykit are u still facing that gnome power manager problems
[05:28] <chmod775> krazykit: is there anything u found ?
[05:28] <_rodney> krazykit: agreed ;)
[05:29] <neopsyche> can someone help me set up apache on my system ubuntu
[05:29] <krazykit> chmod775: uh... not really... i don't use gpm anymore >_>
[05:29] <gnomefreak> zOap: find the ff url you want and open up ff prefereneces and paste it in the space for homepage
[05:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell neopsyche -about apache
[05:29] <chmod775> krazykit: U mean to say u use the applet which comes with gnome
[05:29] <chmod775> ?
[05:29] <ompaul> sugoruyo, if you install it I am sure it comes with some help docs -  apt-proxy - Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder development <-- that is what apt says about it - I take it you want to "ubgrade"
[05:29] <Samus_Aran> every time I try to log in from GDM as any user, with KDE, ICEWM-Experimental or whatever, it fails.  how would I track down the cause of this ?
[05:29] <krazykit> chmod775: right... i don't use that anymore.  i use a module that comes with my window manager.
[05:30] <ompaul> sugoruyo, I have not used it I just know it exists
[05:30] <iiiears> z0ap - Hi. - "In Firefox "Edit" .. "Preferences" .. "General" enter the URL you like in the field there
[05:30] <chmod775> do you use gnome ?
[05:30] <planetcall> goodevening peeps
[05:30] <chmod775> krazykit:  do u use gnome ?
[05:30] <krazykit> chmod775: not anymore.  i use e17
[05:30] <chmod775> krazykit: What's e17 ?
[05:30] <ompaul> sugoruyo, if you want to ask on Monday I should have it running at that stage ;-) it is on my current network development plan
[05:30] <planetcall> krazykit, define
[05:30] <gnomefreak> !e17
[05:30] <ubotu> The next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or Install HOWTO at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto
[05:30] <iiiears> Enlightenment desktop
[05:31] <neopsyche> shouts out thanks ubotu for solving apache problem
[05:31] <zOap> gnomefreak, that's not what I meant, haha :D I know how to change the homepage :D What I  meant is the url in the progress icon in the top right corner. In ff original it's pointed to the mozilla addon page, but in ubuntu it is pointed to some local ubuntu page..
[05:31] <sugoruyo> ompaul: the thing is i think it's overkill for my current need
[05:31] <chmod775> krazykit: oh! enlightment
[05:31] <Hoxzer_> :/
[05:31] <tenzin__> Is there a gmail (googlemail) pannel Application for GNOME? (to show emails) ???
[05:31] <kwilliams> hello...can anyone help me with an installation issue with I believe partman?  It won't start during installation
[05:31] <Hoxzer_> Why Ubuntu is so heavy?
[05:31] <ompaul> sugoruyo, there is something else again I have not used it
[05:31] <krazykit> Hoxzer_: it's meant for slightly more modern machines, really.  if you want something lighter, check out xubuntu
[05:31] <chmod775> ok folks brb gotta have dinner
[05:31] <ompaul> sugoruyo,  approx - caching proxy server for Debian archive files
[05:31] <zOap> tenzin__, yes
[05:31] <gnomefreak> zOap: that i dont know lol
[05:32] <iiiears> Hoxzer - There is Xubuntu If you like.
[05:32] <tenzin__> zOap: do you know how its called?
[05:32] <kdean06> I am running Postfix as my MTA, and whenever PHP sends out messages, the message body gets all garbled. I'm thinking this is because of BASE64 encoding. How do I disable that encoding?
[05:32] <zOap> gnomefreak, ok, I'll check in the firefox channel
[05:32] <ompaul> sugoruyo, given that you will want to upgrade them at the same time it stops you pressing "gather it all" twice
[05:32] <zOap> tenzin__, hang on
[05:32] <tenzin__> zOap: k
[05:32] <sugoruyo> ompaul: if apt can install stuff from the cache [i could put the cached packages in the folder]  and synaptic can be told to get the packages i need [possibly through the use of something like a list of installed packages] 
[05:32] <Hoxzer_> Krazykit: I tried xubuntu but :/ when I moved a window my proccessor usage jumped up to 100 %
[05:32] <saome> hello, anyone bought the ubuntu dvds from amazon? how are they different from the cds?
[05:32] <sugoruyo> ompaul: then that's all i need
[05:32] <zOap> tenzin__, gmail-notify is one
[05:33] <gnomefreak> saome: why buy when they ship them free
[05:33] <Hoxzer_> krazykit: I'm using Pentium 3 600MHz
[05:33] <sugoruyo> ompaul: especially since the first machine won't be in my posession for more than another week
[05:33] <zOap> tenzin__, you also have mail-notification
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell saome -about shipit
[05:33] <saome> i'm not gonna buy them, i'm just curious
[05:33] <tenzin__> zOap: thx I will try that
[05:34] <intuosman> hello, anyone knows what type of scsi cable to be used for peer to peer connection of 2 PCs using scsi bus (ip-over-scsi)?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> saome: the shipit cds are fine
[05:34] <planetcall> how can you pass parameters to running instance of vlc ? It creates new instance
[05:34] <saome> ok thanx
[05:34] <zOap> tenzin__, it is in the universe
[05:34] <kwilliams> does anyone know how to troubleshoot partman during installation?
[05:35] <planetcall> ubotu you know about it ?? :P
[05:35] <ubotu> planetcall: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:35] <ipfw> whats a good bittorrent client ?
[05:35] <planetcall> ipfw, azureus
[05:35] <krazykit> ipfw: i like bittornado or rtorrent.  azureus is too heavy.
[05:35] <tenzin__> zOap: yeah...I have it installed and it works fine :)  ...thx
[05:36] <gean> hi all !
[05:36] <_rodney> ello ;)
[05:36] <zOap> tenzin__, np :)
[05:36] <planetcall> how to pass parameters to existing instance of an application ??
[05:36] <planetcall> anyone ?
[05:36] <Samus_Aran> ipfw: if you want the most features of any BitTorrent client in existance: Azureus
[05:37] <Samus_Aran> ipfw: if you don't want to donate large gobs of RAM to your BitTorrent client: not Azureus
[05:37] <ompaul> sugoruyo, tar and sftp
[05:37] <_rodney> planetcall: cmd line params are just that... i dont think you can
[05:37] <ipfw> I'll just try them all ;)
[05:37] <planetcall> _rodney, it spawns new instances
[05:38] <Samus_Aran> ipfw: if you have more then 640 MiB of RAM, I strongly recommend Azureus, as its features are really amazing
[05:38] <_rodney> what is it planetcall ?
[05:38] <planetcall> vlc
[05:38] <Alexi5> italy is going to beat USA this afternoon
[05:38] <crashzor> Alexi5, soccer ?
[05:39] <Samus_Aran> so does anyone know how I can track down why none of the window managers will load from GDM ?  only the terminal one will load up, and in that terminal I can type in "startkde", "icewm-experimental" or whatever and it will load up fine
[05:39] <planetcall> I use some plugins which send links to streams to VLC. unfortunately everytime it spawns new instance
[05:39] <planetcall> plugin on Firefox i mean
[05:39] <_rodney> planetcall: if its spawning instances it must have a setting someone or config for passes options etc.. ive not used vlc.. try man vlc
[05:39] <_rodney> s/someone/somewhere
[05:39] <planetcall> _rodney, isnt there any default way to send parameter to existing instance ??
[05:39] <Alexi5> crashzor:yes
[05:40] <_rodney> planetcall: not that i know..
[05:40] <planetcall> _rodney, Ubuntu is such a nice OS, it must be providing some way to play around with the existing threads
[05:40] <_rodney> it does well linux does...
[05:40] <crashzor> Alexi5, then you probley right because the usa just sucks at soccer anyway ;)
[05:41] <planetcall> had it been windows.......i would have immediately downloaded some pirated piece of shit for it :)
[05:41] <_rodney> like what ?
[05:41] <olea> hi!
[05:41] <planetcall> but I want to do it * intelligently * on ubuntu
[05:41] <ompaul> planetcall, can you leave the language out we would like a G rated channel
[05:41] <_rodney> man ptrace
[05:42] <planetcall> ompaul, peace!
[05:42] <ipfw> Samus_Aran: 512Meg in this box
[05:42] <bilss> still does not work even with ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 &>/dev/null  & in terminal
[05:42] <planetcall> was a little humor
[05:42] <planetcall> I think I am free to thrash window here ! :P
[05:42] <piqqy> why isn't Xubuntu 6.06 letting me do a raid config in the partitioner?
[05:42] <ompaul> that was not meant to happen - arrr
[05:43] <olea> I have a problem with gam_server eating cpu.
[05:43] <_rodney> piqqy: its not that advanced
[05:43] <ompaul> planetcall, no we don't bother, we know what it is
[05:43] <piqqy> rodney but ubuntu 5.10 let me do it
[05:43] <_rodney> ... but but
[05:43] <piqqy> ?
[05:43] <_rodney> welcome to linux upgrade process...
[05:43] <_rodney> lol
[05:43] <planetcall> :)
[05:43] <bilss> ompaul: thanks for suggestion this morning but still does not work even with ping -i 57 127.0.0.1 &>/dev/null  & in terminal
[05:43] <rohan> anyone have a .deb for google earth ?
[05:43] <a1e> I'm here
[05:43] <sean> hello. when I use mplayer playing .ts file, there is no sound ,but player others for example, .avi,everything is fine. what is the problem?
[05:43] <_rodney> just set it up with another partitioner first...
[05:44] <ompaul> bilss, there was no &
[05:44] <a1e> I've ifconfig report
[05:44] <jdmpike> hello all of my friends!
[05:44] <Samus_Aran> ipfw: Azureus will generally use up around 100MiB RAM if you're a light downloader (no more than 3-4 torrents at once) and up to 250MiB if you have lots of plugins and a dozen or more torrents
[05:44] <a1e> ehere do I paste it?
[05:44] <ompaul> bilss, you need traffic on the console afik
[05:44] <Scorpmoon> there's no .deb for Google Earth is there?
[05:44] <a1e> wehere do I paste it?
[05:44] <rohan> Scorpmoon: not from google
[05:44] <MisterN> hi
[05:44] <crashzor> rohan, google earth runs under wine but i did't know its ported to linux i think not ...
[05:44] <Xgates> say the skin on Mplayer in Ubutun which skin is that?
[05:44] <Samus_Aran> ipfw: there are a lot of tweaks you can do to increase the performance, though.  check the Azureus wiki for "reducing RAM usage" and "speeding up Azureus", tons of good tips, and they do work
[05:44] <rohan> crashzor: it is, with beta4
[05:44] <Scorpmoon> rohan, from where
[05:45] <rohan> crashzor: maybe they pulled another muhahha-wine-did-it ;)
[05:45] <crashzor> rohan, oke then my info is out of date ;)
[05:45] <rohan> Scorpmoon: no .deb is available
[05:45] <a1e> http://phpfi.com/124277
[05:45] <MistaED> google earth has a nice loki installer though...
[05:45] <Scorpmoon> rohan, is Google Earth Plus free?
[05:45] <a1e> this is what ifconfig reports
[05:45] <rohan> Scorpmoon: no idea :S
[05:45] <MistaED> afaik, it uses Qt2 and not wine libs
[05:45] <a1e> can you help me?
[05:45] <bilss> ompaul what i did was put that what i posted in a terminal on my my machine and minimized it, but after an hour say i go to some internet cafe use putty on port 22 and time's out
[05:45] <Samus_Aran> sean: you need to run it from a terminal so that you can see what message MPlayer gives you for why it can't load the audio channel
[05:45] <rohan> yes MistaED, but still the loki installer would mess my / .. i'd rather dpkg handles it :)
[05:46] <_rodney> ale looks good ;)
[05:46] <a1e> but Internet doesn't work...
[05:46] <a1e> I was here before...
[05:46] <_rodney> oh
[05:46] <a1e> I can't communicate with the router...
[05:46] <_rodney> what exactly is the prob with it ah
[05:46] <MistaED> rohan: if you install google earth as a normal user, it goes into /home
[05:46] <sean> Samus_Aran, ok , thanks
[05:46] <Installer36> wget http://dl.google.com/earth/GE4/GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:46] <Installer36> sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:46] <rohan> oh, didnt know that, MistaED
[05:46] <_rodney> make sure the router is on the same net. and the addies are correct...
[05:46] <_rodney> ?
[05:47] <a1e> on windows it works perfectly
[05:47] <kwilliams> all when trying to install Ubuntu server (or desktop), the installer hangs on partman, and looking into the log file it contained CRITICAL ERROR!!!  EXITING.  Can anyone offer advice on how to troubleshoot this?
[05:47] <rohan> but still a deb for it, like picassa, would be ub3r kewl :S
[05:47] <Samus_Aran> sean: if you paste in the specific audio error message, I may be able to tell you what's wrong
[05:47] <Xgates> ahh I found it:
[05:47] <Xgates> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=21745
[05:47] <a1e> but on Ubuntu 6.06 final it doesn't work (on beta1 it worked perfectly)
[05:47] <ProN00b> a1e, you even have RX packets, meaning your recived something
[05:47] <ompaul> bilss, something is getting lost in translation - if there is nothing being echoed back to the screen that is "logged in" then it may not stay open so don't minimise it - your missing the point - the screen must change
[05:47] <Installer36> rohan...wget http://dl.google.com/earth/GE4/GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:47] <Installer36> sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[05:47] <gnomefreak> kwilliams: sounds like a bad burn or a bad iso
[05:47] <a1e> no, I received nothinh
[05:47] <sean> Samus_Aran, there is the message
[05:47] <a1e> *nothing
[05:47] <rohan> yes i understand, Installer36
[05:48] <sean> Samus_Aran, ADecoder init failed :(
[05:48] <sean> ADecoder init failed :(
[05:48] <sean> Cannot find codec for audio format 0x2000.
[05:48] <ProN00b>  RX bytes:244 (244.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[05:48] <a1e> I can't neither ping the router
[05:48] <rohan> i am looking for a debian package for the same
[05:48] <_rodney> erm ale whats running on the router ?
[05:48] <a1e> I know, but I can't do anything...
[05:48] <kwilliams> gnomefreak, I thought so to, so I tried the ubuntu desktop CD...exact same thing.  I also ran the MD5SUM on both, and did the verify disk on the boot prompt on both.  Everything checked out fine.
[05:48] <a1e> _rodney: what do you mean?
[05:48] <ompaul> bilss, and check your putty settings - I know I can log into a server and leave it open for hours and with nothing happening it stays open
[05:48] <_rodney> is yer router another computer.. ?
[05:48] <Samus_Aran> sean: okay, so you are missing a codec pack.  which ones have you already installed ?
[05:48] <a1e> no, it's a router... a Zyxel Prestige
[05:48] <gnomefreak> kwilliams: did you burn it at a very low speed?
[05:49] <ProN00b> a1e, did you use dhcp on the beta or a static ip too ?
[05:49] <a1e> DHCP and static too. it worked perfectly
[05:49] <a1e> that report is made on a static ip
[05:49] <ProN00b> ew, now that sucks
[05:49] <ProN00b> hmm
[05:49] <kwilliams> gnomefreak...40x so I would say no.  Shouldn't matter though if the md5sum checks out should it?  THe previous partman line is "parterd_server: The device ubuntu is not opened"
[05:49] <ProN00b> it dropped packets
[05:49] <gnomefreak> kwilliams: my xubuntu desktop cd freezes at 33%
[05:49] <ProN00b> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:18 overruns:0 carrier:0
[05:49] <_rodney> so you know its teh config of the net ?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> kwilliams: it matters alot
[05:50] <a1e> sorry, I don't understand "ew, now that sucks"
[05:50] <_rodney> ale it should be working...
[05:50] <a1e> but it doesn't work...
[05:50] <gnomefreak> kwilliams: burn it at 2x-4x
[05:50] <kwilliams> gnomefreak...OK, I'll burn it at 4x, cross my fingers and hop back on.
[05:50] <a1e> I know it should...
[05:50] <a1e> I opened also Firefox... Nothing
[05:50] <planetcall> suggest me, I want to choose what to start learning. Perl or Python ? I have been a window programmer.
[05:50] <bilss> ompaul: ok lets go over this again. its not staying connected its not connecting at all. If i do not use my labtop for say an hour IF i go out and try to connect from a remote hose say a win machine with putty  it will not connect onport 22 although on my router port 22 is open , a
[05:50] <ProN00b> a1e, the next time you boot, try "iptables --flush"
[05:50] <_rodney> you cant even ping the router right ?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> planetcall: python but please join #ubuntu-offtopic for this
[05:51] <neutrinomass> planetcall: AFAIK, python is much more useful ...
[05:51] <fresch> planetcall, python... stay away from perl
[05:51] <a1e> _rodney: no
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> planetcall,  python - its more structured and easier to learn..  but some perl is handy.
[05:51] <planetcall> heh......ubiquitous
[05:51] <_rodney> and you can reboot into windows and it works fine ?
[05:51] <a1e> ProN00b: I made that report on the Live CD... it couldn't be that
[05:51] <sean> Samus_Aran, I installed follow wiki.  gstreamer0.8-plugins  gstreamer0.8-lame gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg w32codecs lame sox ffmpeg mjpegtools vorbis-tools
[05:51] <a1e> yes, on windows it works perfectly
[05:51] <ProN00b> a1e, what ?
[05:51] <a1e> with dhpc too
[05:51] <a1e> it couldn't be a problem of iptables
[05:52] <a1e> because I made that on the live
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> planetcall: I would say perl if you have reasonable skill in structuring your programs (lot less typing - cpan is better than the python equivalent)
[05:52] <Samus_Aran> sean: what type of audio does this file have ?  I recommend installing the other gstreamer codecs, there are quite a few of them.  I did that and so far haven't been missing any
[05:52] <a1e> but also if I install that it don't work
[05:52] <_rodney> some nasty low level problem
[05:52] <ompaul> bilss, that does not match my memory of the eariler conversation, or my eariler understanding
[05:52] <a1e> "some nasty low level problem"???????
[05:52] <Samus_Aran> sean: you can try using the "file" command if you're not sure what codec the audio is using, it may tell you: file foo.ts
[05:52] <planetcall> h3sp4wn, yeah perl seems to have a wider support but it also has a steeper learning curve than python.
[05:52] <Samus_Aran> sean: is this an HDTV dump ?
[05:52] <qos> there is a problem with my PATH variable ... i set it so several dirs in /root/.profile (u can see it here _http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15860)
[05:53] <bilss> ompaul; ok i am sorry about that but that is the case did not mean to create a misunderstanding
[05:53] <_rodney> ale yeah :(
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> it will be worth while to learn both perl and python.
[05:53] <a1e> how do I solve that?
[05:53] <ProN00b> a1e, dhcp doesn't have anything to do with iptables
[05:53] <sean> Samus_Aran, yes it is a HDTV file. my first time to watch :)
[05:53] <ProN00b> try that flusing the next time you boot into linux
[05:53] <_rodney> ale you cant... it would be extremey difficult to fix...
[05:53] <|lostbyte|> Hello 1
[05:53] <a1e> Pronoob: I can't flush it on the live...
[05:53] <_rodney> hello 2 ?
[05:53] <|lostbyte|> ANy one using tvtime here ?
[05:54] <ompaul> bilss, so you could in theory go next door and ssh in now?
[05:54] <|lostbyte|> 1/!*  :P
[05:54] <ProN00b> a1e, what do you mean you can't flush it ?
[05:54] <Samus_Aran> sean: I don't have HDTV, myself, but my friend sent me some clips ... pretty impressive !
[05:54] <Scorpmoon> I just downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin, but simply typing that in Terminal gives me "command not found"
[05:54] <_rodney> ale best bet report it as a bug... and hope... downgrade back to working version
[05:54] <Samus_Aran> sean: I'll go play one of the clips I have, and if it plays, check what audio codec it is using
[05:54] <a1e> It's not necessary to flush something on a live cd... It's read only
[05:54] <ProN00b> Scorpmoon, chmod +x it
[05:54] <ompaul> Scorpmoon, ./x.bin
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> sh ./googleearcg.bin
[05:54] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: sh googleearthlinux.bin
[05:54] <a1e> If I downgrade to the beta and I update it... may it work?=
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> is another way i think
[05:55] <sean> Samus_Aran, file disk2.ts        disk2.ts: data
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Googleearth for linux works very nicely for me.
[05:55] <ompaul> Scorpmoon, or combinations of the above
[05:55] <Scorpmoon> thanks
[05:55] <_rodney> maybe try anything really
[05:55] <Scorpmoon> sh worked
[05:55] <ProN00b> a1e, dude, thats nothing got to do with the live cd, just flush it, its a setting that resides in the kernel
[05:55] <|lostbyte|> Anyone ?
[05:55] <sean> Samus_Aran, all right ,thanks
[05:55] <Scorpmoon> where do I install Google Earth to?
[05:55] <a1e> I try to install the beta and then update
[05:55] <Scorpmoon> and whats the difference between Install path and Binary path
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: if you do it as normal user /home/ ;)
[05:55] <ProN00b> and, yes, you can flush it on the livecd, a1e
[05:55] <_rodney> ok good luck
[05:55] <ompaul> |lostbyte|, custom dictates that you wait for 10 to 15 minutes before repeating
[05:55] <bilss> ompaul; itsabout 5 minutus to six minutes walk away if i go now it will work, if i do not use my labtop for say an hour then try it not connect it will time out
[05:55] <a1e> I hope it will resolve the problem
[05:55] <blanky> chris_ aint here?
[05:55] <Kyral> Scorpmoon: if you run the installer as your normal user it will install in $HOME
[05:55] <_rodney> iptables -F
[05:55] <a1e> thank u
[05:56] <Kyral> Scorpmoon: which is quite alright
[05:56] <a1e> bye
[05:56] <_rodney> ...
[05:56] <_rodney> gl ;)
[05:56] <|lostbyte|> huh ?
[05:56] <Scorpmoon> i thought /home was for my own files, like media, pics, etc. not applications
[05:56] <ProN00b> a1e, you should maybe downgrade the kernel
[05:56] <ompaul> bilss, is your laptop going into suspend mode?
[05:56] <Samus_Aran> sean: the .ts clip I have from PBS in the USA is: AC3: 2.0 (stereo)  48000 Hz  384.0 kbit/s, Selected audio codec: [a52]  afm: liba52 (AC3-liba52)
[05:56] <ProN00b> a1e, the kernel is where all the drivers reside
[05:56] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: home keeps your config files too
[05:56] <a1e> the kernel of the beta is the same as final, I think
[05:56] <Scorpmoon> it suggests /home/scorpmoon/google-earth for install and /home/scorpmoon for Binary path
[05:56] <Samus_Aran> sean: so do a search for an AC3 codec in Synaptic
[05:56] <Hoxzer__> !!!!
[05:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hoxzer__
[05:56] <Hoxzer__> KICK
[05:56] <gnomefreak> Scorpmoon: open up you home and hit ctrl+h
[05:56] <_rodney> he shouldnt be doing that... isnt this ubuntu....
[05:56] <Hoxzer__> lol
[05:56] <Hoxzer__> I'm loosing my mind
[05:56] <Hoxzer__> everything is fighting againts me today
[05:56] <_rodney> join the party ;)
[05:56] <|lostbyte|> !tvtime
[05:56] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |lostbyte|
[05:56] <Samus_Aran> sean: it's probably one of the gstreamer ones, as I installed all of them on this system
[05:56] <Hoxzer__> like NOthing works :)
[05:56] <qos> is there anyone that can help me with me PATH variable?
[05:56] <ProN00b> also, flush the iptables, ping your router and then give us the last lines from /var/log/messages, a1e
[05:57] <Hoxzer__> fun day again
[05:57] <Samus_Aran> qos: what seems to be the problem ?
[05:57] <ProN00b> a1e, nope, i installed the final and even i got a new kernel recently
[05:57] <Scorpmoon> i just thought i should install stuff into /usr/bin
[05:57] <ompaul> Hoxzer__, so you talk around the issue, please be specific with an error
[05:57] <sean> Samus_Aran,  I'll do it :)
[05:57] <a1e> however, thank you. I think I'll install the beta and then update. Maybe in the updates there's someting... bye
[05:58] <iNiku> hmm. is it possible to shrink a mounted ext2/3 filesystem?
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> what is the correct thing to put into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - to blacklist the old madwifi modules (and hence force the modules in madwifi-ng to be used) dapper seems to include both but defaults to madwifi-old (in restricted modules package)
[05:58] <qos> Samus_Aran, look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15860 ... i try to set it in this file. but if i exec the file via "/root/.profile" nothing happens ...
[05:58] <Igramul> iNiku: no
[05:58] <piqqy> why isn't Xubuntu 6.06 letting me do a raid config in the partitioner?
[05:58] <ProN00b> a1e, if you do that, make sure you never do a dist-upgrade, as that might fck it again
[05:58] <_rodney> its broken... piqqy
[05:58] <iNiku> Igramul: ok, only grow?
[05:58] <bilss> ompaul; i am not sure the screen goes blank but starts right away if i hit a key but what does happen i notice there are four lights on my ethernet box  power, ethernet, dsl, and internet, which ar all presently glowing, after a while say 30 to 45 minutes the internet light goes blank
[05:58] <Igramul> iNiku: I guess so - never tried it by myself.
[05:58] <iNiku> Igramul: I was kinda hoping that would have changed in the past couple of years
[05:59] <Sivik> how do i get e17 to appear in my wdm login manager?
[05:59] <Igramul> iNiku: There are file systems that do support online shrinking - but as far as i know(!) ext3 is not one of them.
[05:59] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: I would guess ath_hal should do it
[05:59] <ompaul> bilss, looks like it is suspending - care to try to turn that off - no idea where to look
[06:00] <Niklas_E> is ubunto only 700MB? or does it download the other files?
[06:00] <iNiku> Igramul: yeah, that used to be the case, I suppose it still is. too bad...
[06:00] <sean> Samus_Aran, I use "file" command to see the information, but the result is : data
[06:00] <planetcall> Niklas_E, try looking for repositories. There are thousands of software ready to be downloaded
[06:00] <erUSUL> Niklas_E: it is 700MB yes and it can dl other programs from inet repositories
[06:00] <Igramul> iNiku: You can boot linux from CD and shrink the file system.
[06:01] <bilss> ompaul: yes sounds that way, no idea where to look, ok I will try making a post in the forum
[06:01] <planetcall> Niklas_E, its sufficient for the installation
[06:01] <ompaul> bilss, why not use the wiki or help.ubuntu.com first
[06:01] <Niklas_E> great
[06:01] <ompaul> bilss, if it is documented it will be useful there
[06:01] <iNiku> Igramul: I know, but doing it on the fly would be so much cooler :)
[06:01] <tortoise_> silly question, how does one switch tabs in gedit?
[06:01] <gavagai> Niklas_E, the cd installs a pretty good gnome system but if you have high speed internet it is painless to install a lot more over the net
[06:01] <Niklas_E> does it use grub as boot manager?
[06:01] <jahshua> hey peeps can anyone tell me is there an alternate download for a 'slim' version of ubuntu? something with less services and packages enabled/installed on default...
[06:02] <bilss> ompaul: ok will look at the wiki
[06:02] <Sivik> Niklas_E, yes
[06:02] <ompaul> Niklas_E, I am currently building a mirror of only main - 22 gigs give or take a meg or two
[06:02] <iNiku> another question: does anyone know if it's still the case that grub cannot be used to boot from a raid root filesystem?
[06:02] <Niklas_E> then I am installing it ;)
[06:02] <Sivik> ompaul, lol
[06:02] <Sivik> Niklas_E, good choice
[06:02] <NthDegree> jahshua just use the alternate CD with expert mode and only install the base system
[06:02] <bilss> ompaul; thanks for your feedback ompaul  umm so hot
[06:02] <NthDegree> then apt-get only the stuff you want
[06:03] <Sivik> ompaul, thats cool
[06:03] <Sivik> ompaul, do you use e17?
[06:03] <__mikem> For some reason there is a pixel on my screen that is blue and won't stop being blue
[06:03] <bilss> ubotu tell bliss_ about suspending
[06:04] <iNiku> __mikem: lcd display?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> __mikem,  its 'always on' and will perhaps burn out some day. :)
[06:04] <__mikem> yes
[06:04] <Sivik> __mikem, thats probably an issue with the monitor, like a dead pixel
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> then it will be always black.
[06:04] <iNiku> __mikem: lcd displays sometimes have those. nothing you can do, unless the warranty covers it
[06:04] <iNiku> for most manufacturers, it doesn't.
[06:04] <__mikem> I just got this monitor to
[06:04] <__mikem> thats a real disappointment
[06:04] <chmod775> I switch between two networks all the time, for eg my office and home, but each and very time I have to change my DNS settings is there a tool which can help, my networks are in wireless and cable
[06:04] <iNiku> __mikem: ask the store, it might be covered by warranty
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> if its in a really annoying spot - it may be covered
[06:04] <ompaul> Sivik, no, and I was serious yesterday
[06:05] <__mikem> ok thanks
[06:05] <ompaul> Sivik, but no matter
[06:05] <Sivik> ompaul, what were you serious about yesterday?
[06:05] <iNiku> __mikem: some lcd manufacturers have a zero bad pixel tolerance
[06:05] <iNiku> most don't
[06:05] <neutrinomass> crimsun_: not around by any chance are you ?
[06:05] <ompaul> Sivik, one pm coming up
[06:05] <__mikem> iNiku, not sure what to say to that. I just hope it is good news for me
[06:05] <Gullstad> what was the command to check witch gfx-card you got?
[06:05] <matid> Is anyone here familiar with xclip?
[06:05] <Sivik> Gullstad, lspci
[06:06] <chmod775> I switch between two networks all the time, for eg my office and home, but each and very time I have to change my DNS settings is there a tool which can help, my networks are in wireless and cable
[06:06] <iNiku> __mikem: ask the store, they'll tell you
[06:06] <Gullstad> Sivik: thanks :)
[06:06] <__mikem> ok
[06:06] <Sivik> Gullstad, yw
[06:06] <matid> I'd like to know how to prevent it from adding a new line at the and of every string it gets
[06:06] <chmod775> help me to switch easyly between networks
[06:06] <Sivik> ompaul: it won't let me connect to freenode via 8001
[06:06] <eXistenZ> what does rm -rf / do?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> eXistenZ,  deletes everything if ran as root
[06:06] <ompaul> eXistenZ, gets you banned
[06:06] <neutrinomass> eXistenZ: Attempts to delete your entire filesystem and anything that's mounted on it ..
[06:06] <__mikem> eXistenZ don't ask stupid questions
[06:07] <ompaul> you can look but not touch
[06:07] <Sivik> krazykit, just the person i needed to talk to
[06:07] <__mikem> ompaul did you just ban him lol?
[06:07] <ompaul> no muted
[06:07] <apokryphos> which is a ban ;-)
[06:07] <__mikem> lmao, ok, wow you can't imagine how funny that is
[06:08] <iNiku> ompaul: I hope there's a history behind that... seems kinda harsh otherwise :)
[06:08] <krazykit> Sivik: how do you know i didn't just drop the connection and then reconnect without me being here?
[06:08] <__mikem> I mean, what kind of idiot asks that kind of question
[06:08] <jahshua> NthDegree cool thanks for the tip.  :)
[06:08] <__mikem> iNiku, there is
[06:08] <__mikem> don't worry
[06:08] <Sivik> krazykit, i had a feeling that it was you, and not just a reconnect
[06:08] <iNiku> hehe, okay. I figured so.
[06:08] <chmod775> folks any one can help me
[06:09] <__mikem> DEpends on what you need help with
[06:09] <__mikem> but we will try
[06:09] <zOap> is there a tweakubuntu page avilable? I'm trying to get it to be more "light" gui tweaks and so on
[06:09] <neutrinomass> __mikem: Well, if I was a total noob and saw references to that command, I would ask too - you need to learn somehow .
[06:09] <Sivik> krazykit, i was talking to you yesterday about e17 right
[06:09] <krazykit> Sivik: ah, right.
[06:09] <chmod775> I switch between two networks all the time, for eg my office and home, but each and very time I have to change my DNS settings is there a tool which can help, my networks are in wireless and cable
[06:10] <chmod775> this is the one __mikem
[06:10] <ompaul> neutrinomass, try getting upstream to take that patch
[06:10] <chmod775> I typed it but no one answered to it
[06:10] <Sivik> krazykit, i tried what you showed me late last night, and it still didn't work
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> neutrinomass,  make a script/alias - if that worried about it. :)
[06:10] <krazykit> neutrinomass: what, removing forcibly recursively the root of the drive?
[06:10] <__mikem> Are the networks in different domains
[06:10] <ipfw> anyone in here use opera ?
[06:11] <chmod775> __mikem: yes I have to change the DNS settings all the time
[06:11] <krazykit> Sivik: maybe wdm stores its config elsewhere?  i'd think it'd be in /usr/share/xsessions/ though...
[06:11] <neutrinomass> ompaul: Even if they would object, which I don't really think so, still it could be an Ubuntu patch. That command is of no practical use anyway ....
[06:11] <__mikem> When you are potentially in the pressence of newbies, mentioning such dangerous commands is always a bad idea
[06:11] <neutrinomass> krazykit: yes ;)
[06:11] <Sivik> its there
[06:11] <__mikem> chmod775 hold on, let me check something
[06:11] <Sivik> krazykit, it is, i added e17.desktop
[06:11] <Scorpmoon> on another computer google earth suggests to install to /usr/local/google-earth , but on this computer it suggests /home/scorpmoon/google-earth
[06:11] <Scorpmoon> which is a better solution
[06:11] <chmod775> __mikem: thank you so much
[06:11] <deloreandmc> does anyone know what version of X dapper uses?
[06:12] <krazykit> Sivik: um, and wdm sees the other .desktop files in there?
[06:12] <Sivik> krazykit, yes
[06:12] <neutrinomass> Dr_Willis: I'm not worried about it, but a number of people have deleted their stuff by trying to delete "/ tmp" for example... let alone those who saw it and tried it to see what happens + the people that have been tricked into it with shell code ...
[06:12] <__mikem> ok chmod775 go to system>administration>networking
[06:12] <Sivik> krazykit, blackbox, egnome, enlightenment (16), ekde
[06:12] <Sivik> but not e17
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Scorpmoon,  i put in my home dir.. since im the only user
[06:12] <krazykit> Sivik: oh, then check the permissions on the other .desktop files and e17.desktop, make sure they're the same
[06:12] <__mikem> you will be prompted for YOUR password, that is to say NOT the root password
[06:12] <chmod775> Ok hang on __mikem
[06:12] <void^> neutrinomass: some shells like zsh check for common typos and warn in such cases
[06:13] <MisterLeebee> yo!
[06:13] <chmod775> __mikem: ok
[06:13] <chmod775> done
[06:13] <__mikem> you should have a window with 4 tabs
[06:13] <__mikem> go to the one that says dns
[06:13] <chmod775> __mikem: yup
[06:13] <chmod775> k
[06:13] <__mikem> you can add multiple dns servers to that list
[06:13] <neutrinomass> void^: Which is a very good idea. But bash doesn't ... :(
[06:13] <MisterLeebee> can any one assist me in trying to sort out my creative zen touch player in ubuntu?, I have gnomad 2 but it wont connect
[06:13] <__mikem> that should solve your problem
[06:13] <chmod775> __mikem: ok
[06:14] <chmod775> __mikem: ok so it should work
[06:14] <chmod775> right ?
[06:14] <void^> neutrinomass: zsh with completion addons eats twice the amount of ram as bash, though :] 
[06:14] <yoshiznit123> hi, does anybody know where (ie in which package in launchpad) i should file a bug regarding dependency problems?
[06:14] <__mikem> I don't see why it wouldn't
[06:14] <neutrinomass> It could be an issue in a chroot, where you might under rare circumstances want to delete root, but then again, you would just have to say "yes" to the warning.... it breaks the force option, but I don't think people will mind ...
[06:14] <Geev8> hellow who know dd command i need help
[06:14] <__mikem> It will use that list of IP addresses as a search path
[06:14] <RadiantFire> neutrinomass: have I mentioned how hardcore you are?
[06:14] <deloreandmc> does anyone know what version of X dapper uses?
[06:14] <yoshiznit123> geev, what do u need dd for?
[06:14] <Sivik> krazykit, it may be looking in the wrong area for the exec, i'm going to see if i can find the right location
[06:15] <chmod775> __mikem: I am facing one more problem with xine, it just disappears when I try to play a VCD
[06:15] <neutrinomass> RadiantFire: hardcore ?
[06:15] <MisterLeebee> n e one with gnomad 2 help?
[06:15] <RadiantFire> i always see you talking heavy stuff ;-)
[06:15] <krazykit> Sivik: it shouldn't matter, really.  the .desktop should show up as an option regardless of whether the path is right.
[06:15] <__mikem> I never got the point of VCDs, I would just convert the vcds to dvd
[06:15] <neutrinomass> OK, it could be a warning, not a prompt. "This will mess up your system' and wait 5 seconds before doing anything :)
[06:15] <neutrinomass> RadiantFire: Thanks for the compliment :)
[06:15] <__mikem> but you could try dpkg-reconfigure xine
[06:15] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: hmm, just tried blacklisting the madwifi stuff and loading the -ng modules manually but it's not working
[06:15] <chmod775> !pastebin
[06:15] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:15] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: the interface doesn't show up at all
[06:16] <Geev8> i want to run this  "dd if=disk1.img of=/dev/fd0" but it says no such file
[06:16] <Gullstad> is there a program that could sync iPods for  linux?
[06:16] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: have you been able to use the -ng modules that come with ubuntu?
[06:16] <Samus_Aran> qos: your path on that pastebin seems backward.  you don't generally ever want to put other directories before /bin and /sbin in the path, as that can end up making your system unusable if anything is set wrong
[06:16] <deloreandmc> does anyone know what version of X dapper uses?
[06:16] <yoshiznit123> geev, do u have the disk1.img in the directory ur  running it from?
[06:16] <chmod775> __mikem: I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15861
[06:16] <Sivik> krazykit, this is what i have for two of the .desktop files http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15862
[06:16] <Samus_Aran> it's also a security risk, as the default commands like "ls" or "bash" can then be overridden by files in any of those other dirs
[06:16] <Dreamglider> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 6.06 - dapper Kernel: 2.6.15-25-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.0.0 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.6.1
[06:16] <yoshiznit123> deloreandmc, 7.0
[06:17] <Geev8> it is on a folder
[06:17] <__mikem> chmod775 thats a dependency error, you don't have all the library files you need
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: No I am trying to setup my ubuntu server with madwifi-ng (its running the standard kernel at the moment) (because hostapd in ubuntu is compiled against madwifi-ng)
[06:17] <yoshiznit123> geev, u'll have to do something like this: dd if=path/to/disk1.img of=/dev/fd0
[06:17] <chmod775> __mikem: Oh! what package should I install
[06:17] <Morrowyn> hi, when i insert a blank dvd+r in my dvdburner and drag the file si wanna burn in to the cd/dvd creator and press write to disc and select my burner, it keeps on nagging me that i need to insert a blank disc, when i check my desktop, it says that a blank dvd+r disc is in the drive, any ideas?
[06:17] <Iam8up> if i stick in a kubuntu 6.06 live cd into the drive and boot off of it, can i do a 'mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/pnt' and will it have both read AND write access?
[06:17] <krazykit> Sivik: the e17.desktop file should have ONLY lines 18-24 in that pastebin
[06:18] <Sivik> ok
[06:18] <Sivik> not the comment?
[06:18] <krazykit> nope
[06:18] <Sivik> krazykit, ok
[06:18] <__mikem> chmod775, I really don't know, sorry
[06:18] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: looks like the ubuntu -ng modules are not working at all for some reason
[06:18] <chmod775> These are all I have related to xine
[06:18] <chmod775> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15863
[06:18] <chmod775> can you please have a look at it ?
[06:19] <Sivik> krazykit, let me go try that
[06:19] <ic56> lam8up: I think the NTFS driver is in there, so this should work.  However, that driver will likely corrupt your filesystem.  Use it readonly.  If you need to use a filesystem as an intermediary to exchange data with Windows, use a FAT filesystem.
[06:19] <__mikem> chmod775, you could try to apt-cache search for vcd
[06:19] <neutrinomass> chmod775: Not sure exactly what it is.... did you upgrade from breezy ?
[06:19] <Morrowyn> nvm, my bad, size was too large :P
[06:19] <chmod775> nope neutrinomass I did a fresh install from the CD
[06:20] <neutrinomass> chmod775: x86? This is weird ...
[06:20] <chmod775> yup x86
[06:20] <__mikem> neutrinomass, does that library come by default with dapper, or is it supposed to?
[06:20] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know why when I choose 1024x768 with in the unreal tournament game it closes the game and sends me back to desktop with 640x480 resolution? with in the game 800x600 works fine.
[06:20] <yoshiznit123> iam8up,you might also want to look at the fuse module if you want write access to ntfs
[06:20] <Iam8up> ic56 - my name begins with an i =) the poitn of me mounting it here, i want to remove one little dll files which is infected with a trojan
[06:21] <Iam8up> well it's got to be a live cd...i'm not going to be using ntfs for more then a moment
[06:21] <neutrinomass> chmod775: File a bug. It could be a build issue in some of the libraries.... :-/
[06:21] <Cntryboy> It's acting like my card or monitor one can't handle it
[06:21] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: i did it but still it report the some
[06:21] <chmod775> oh ok neutrinomass
[06:21] <__mikem> neutrinomass, is that library file supposed to come with dapper by default?
[06:21] <krazykit> Iam8up: if you have another windows machine, you could try to make a bartpe disc and use that to remove the infected dll.
[06:21] <neutrinomass> __mikem: No idae, I'm not sure about xine stuff...
[06:21] <yoshiznit123> geev, if it says file not found then it means the path to img is wrong
[06:22] <ic56> Iam8up: it's not the frequency of the operations that cause the trouble.  Why not use your Windows boot CD instead?
[06:22] <__mikem> neither am I, but dependency errors are prety trivial to spot
[06:22] <Iam8up> krazykit - is it very simple to make a bartpe disk?
[06:22] <Iam8up> ic56 - windows boot cd..for what..?
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> iam8up, just to let you know i've been using read/write ntfs from linux and haven't had corruption or anything...
[06:22] <Iam8up> yoshiznit123 - i know =) i've heard both ends of the story
[06:23] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: or what it mean with dd command "dd if=disk1.img of=/dev/fd0"
[06:23] <krazykit> Iam8up: dunno, i've never done it.  i know some people who have, so i bet it's not beyond the average user.
[06:23] <Iam8up> i'm pretty sure chkdsk would fix any problems anyways
[06:23] <Gullstad> is there a program that could sync iPods for  linux?
[06:23] <Sivik> krazykit, ok, there are 7 files in the xsession folder, but only 4 of them show up
[06:23] <yoshiznit123> geev, it writes the disk1.img file directly to a floppy
[06:23] <yoshiznit123> do u have a floppy in the drive?
[06:23] <yoshiznit123> lol
[06:23] <Sivik> krazykit, the 3 that aren't there are the e17, e-gnome, and e-kde
[06:23] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[06:23] <Sivik> Cntryboy, what did you break today?
[06:23] <walkover> hey does anybody remeber how to check the hdd transfer rate in linux
[06:24] <walkover> its something like "xx -xx"
[06:24] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: yes i have and it is mounted
[06:24] <Shaezsche> how is installing ubuntu and THEN installing the KDE-kubuntu desktop package different from just installing Kubuntu?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> Sivik LOL, nothing. I didn't break nothing last night the other dude told me wrong information..
[06:24] <ic56> Iam8up: Windows boot CD to go into the recovery console and delete the infected file.  yoshiznit123 seems to be confident with the NTFS drivers.  I am not.  I've lost data.
[06:24] <brandon_> i'm getting an error when i try to tar a backup of my home directory. the problem is that the error is not verbose enough that i can do anything about it. is there a log somewhere that would contain a lengthier description of what's happening? i already tried /var/log/message
[06:24] <yoshiznit123> geev: maybe unmount it
[06:24] <Sivik> Cntryboy, that sucks
[06:24] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: ok let me do it
[06:24] <walkover> anyone?
[06:24] <NoUse> Shaezsche kubuntu doesn't include any gnome packages by default
[06:24] <jrib> Shaezsche: you will have gnome and kde instead of just kde
[06:24] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know why when I choose 1024x768 with in the unreal tournament game it closes the game and sends me back to desktop with 640x480 resolution? with in the game 800x600 works fine.
[06:24] <Cntryboy> It's acting like my card or monitor one can't handle it
[06:24] <Cntryboy> Sivik thats what I wanna know
[06:24] <Shaezsche> will it boot slower?
[06:24] <Iam8up> ic56 - wouldn't the recovery console encoutner the same permission problems? i believe this is an NTFS issue, which is why i was lookin towards linux
[06:25] <Shaezsche> i dont like that ubuntu's menus pause to load
[06:25] <Sivik> krazykit, what am i doing wrong that causes those to not to show up during the login?
[06:25] <Sivik> Cntryboy, not sure how to help you, just don't play it in 1024X768
[06:25] <neutrinomass> __mikem: Any idea as to what package that belongs ?
[06:25] <ic56> Ima8up: anyway, if you do go the Linux way, you need some additional mount flags: fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[06:25] <NoUse> Shaezsche it shouldn't boot slower
[06:25] <Cntryboy> even in 800x600 the game is laggy
[06:25] <Cntryboy> in windows it plays fine
[06:25] <__mikem> Fraid not
[06:25] <ic56> Iam8up: What permission problems would the Windows recovery console encounter?!
[06:25] <yoshiznit123> ic56, can u even boot into windows?
[06:26] <yoshiznit123> sorry, iam8up :-)
[06:26] <Iam8up> ic56 - no clue, never used it
[06:26] <Cntryboy> is there a server for linux and games I can go search help for
[06:26] <walkover> hey does anybody remeber how to check the hdd transfer rate in linux
[06:26] <__mikem> It would be nice if there was a way to specify a file in some kind of search engine and have it give youthe name of the package it belongs to
[06:26] <bockman> hello, i just booted my ubuntu machine and it says "Failed to initalize HAL". how do i fix that?
[06:26] <Shaezsche> does anyone know why ubuntu's menus often pause when you navigate them?
[06:26] <Cntryboy> like quake.net or something?
[06:26] <Cntryboy> that irc server
[06:26] <Shaezsche> momentarily freezes for a second
[06:26] <ic56> yoshiznit123: what are you talking about?
[06:26] <Iam8up> yoshiznit123 - yes, it boots to windows - mcafee keeps complaining of a trojan in a dll file in the system32 folder that's definetly not a windows file
[06:26] <yoshiznit123> shaezsche, i think its a know bug
[06:26] <Shaezsche> yosh is it hard to fix?
[06:26] <paxl> Can somone help me. I'm trying to install ubunutu 6.06 but I'm having trouble.. The cd stop and run at 1x
[06:26] <NthDegree> bockman that is the HAL service failing, it shouldn't be critical
[06:26] <yoshiznit123> shaezshce, i don't think they know of any
[06:27] <Shaezsche> thats the only reason i prefer kubuntu atm
[06:27] <Shaezsche> that stupid bug
[06:27] <bockman> NthDegree, it is, i can't load my gnome menu, or use my usb key
[06:27] <Sivik> krazykit, are you still around?
[06:27] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: i want to put BasicLinux on the floppies but directory that contain disk1.img is in zip directory
[06:27] <yoshiznit123> iam8up: whats the problem with deleting the dll from the command line?
[06:27] <ic56> Iam8up: hang on, I put something in ubotu a while back about windows recovery console
[06:27] <krazykit> Sivik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15864  does your e17.desktop file look like that?  no comments, just the [stuff] 
[06:27] <Iam8up> yoshiznit123 - it says it's not allowed
[06:27] <Schamane_> hi
[06:27] <valehru> hey guys
[06:27] <NthDegree> bockman HAL is to detect extra devices like USB drives, printers etc. so it shouldn't be critical to system function
[06:28] <dankmiser> question: ubuntu dd, azureus - I am unable to click on warning messages in the right corner of my screen, help!!
[06:28] <yoshiznit123> geev, so the path to disk1.img is zip/disk1.img?
[06:28] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: yes
[06:28] <Shaezsche> will update-dist update my ubuntu kernel too?
[06:28] <ic56> !fixmbr
[06:28] <bockman> NthDegree, well, this is a new error, and now when i open my gnome menu my entire input system (keyboard, mouse, etc.) fails to function. i'd call that critical, personally
[06:28] <Sivik> krazykit, yes
[06:28] <jaro> Hi all
[06:28] <blanky> chris_ are you here?
[06:28] <bockman> how do i fix this
[06:28] <yoshiznit123> geev and you did dd if=zip/disk.img of=/dev/fd0?
[06:28] <valehru> Is gftp considered stable on dapper x64?  It keeps crashing on me for seemingly no reason during a transfer.....is there any other graphical ftp clients out there that you would recommend?
[06:28] <jaro> can someonebody help me solve an issue with USB ???
[06:28] <Sivik> krazykit, i got the e17.desktop file options from you yesterday
[06:28] <NthDegree> bockman you tried a reinstall, and what filesystem you using?
[06:29] <jaro> can someonebody help me solve an issue with USB ???
[06:29] <yoshiznit123> geev, thats weird, it should work
[06:29] <bockman> this is a really fresh reinstall
[06:29] <bockman> reiserfs 3.6
[06:29] <__mikem> Ubuntu has always been behind the times with USB
[06:29] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: i mean it is in a zipped directory
[06:29] <krazykit> Sivik: i know... check the permissions on the files.  it should be -rw-r--r--
[06:29] <NthDegree> ditch reiserfs it is unreliable for an OS partition
[06:29] <NthDegree> it is ok for a home partition but not for the system
[06:29] <yoshiznit123> geev, u have to unzip it first
[06:29] <yoshiznit123> :-)
[06:29] <PaKaP> bonsoir
[06:29] <neutrinomass> valehru: Hm... can you please search launchpad for existing bug reports? If you don't find one, pleas report one. A backtrace (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash) will also be neccessary ...
[06:29] <Sivik> krazykit, they are all set like that
[06:29] <krazykit> NthDegree: no it isn't.  i've been using reiserfs for a year and a half no problems at all.
[06:29] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: ok
[06:30] <yoshiznit123> hey, does anybody know where (ie in which package in launchpad) i should file a bug regarding dependency problems in packages?
[06:30] <krazykit> Sivik: then i have absolutely no clue :-/
[06:30] <bockman> NthDegree, is that really the problem? i've used linux for years, and reiserfs has always worked for all partitions
[06:30] <ic56> Iam8up: yeah, I couldn't fit much about the recovery console in that entry.  But if you google for it, Microsoft.com has pretty detailed instructions on how to setup and enter the recovery console.
[06:30] <valehru> neutrinomass, sure no problem
[06:30] <Sivik> krazykit, should i download and install gdm to see if that fixes it?
[06:30] <mortal5> does anyone have vnc configured and working here?
[06:30] <NthDegree> krazykit: i have tried reiserfs god knows how many times, it has always corrupted or borked up somehow
[06:30] <Iam8up> ic56 - you stick the cd in and hit f3...it's simple
[06:30] <Iam8up> but i wouldn't expect it to be any more powerful then the installation itself
[06:30] <neutrinomass> NthDegree: reiserfs4 is unstable. 3 has proven OK. I've had my share of resiserfs partitions, no problems ...
[06:30] <theine> mortal5: I'm using the vnc client on my laptop
[06:31] <valehru> neutrinomass, I read somewhere that linuxthreads needs to be enabled...that was probably why it kept crashing, also that gftp is not that active anymore.....any comments on that?
[06:31] <bockman> NthDegree, wow, it says putting smbfs in the fstab file will bork your HAL
[06:31] <bockman> i wonder why...
[06:31] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know how to fix resolution problems in 3d accerlation, such at unrealtournament game?
[06:31] <NthDegree> i have no idea really
[06:31] <ic56> Iam8up: however, as yoshiznit123 points out, if you can boot in Windows, then just delete the infected dll from within windows.  If it's set to be read-only of if an ordinary user lacks perm, then just become Administrator and/or set the attrib's.
[06:31] <Samus_Aran> Cntryboy: that would depend what the problem is
[06:31] <NthDegree> Cntryboy try software rendering or openGL support
[06:31] <dankmiser> help: unclickable 'warning' messages in Azureus (ubuntu dapper / azureus / Java 1.4.2-02)
[06:32] <NthDegree> assuming you have the original UT
[06:32] <neutrinomass> valehru: I don't know about gftp's upsteam, they may be dead. You don't need to worry about linuxthreads.... If you file a bug at launchpad, maybe some person will take a look at it and post a fix :)
[06:32] <krazykit> Sivik: the best i can tell you is to ask the wdm people where to put .desktop files, really.
[06:32] <neutrinomass> chmod775: Did you file the bug report after all ?
[06:32] <valehru> ok...thanks
[06:32] <Sivik> ok, and who would be the wdm people, i can't seem to find anyone that uses wdm
[06:32] <Cntryboy> Nthdegree, with in the game it only shows open GL I can't even use software rendering...
[06:32] <Iam8up> ic56 - in windows - i'm logged in as administrator, it's not set to read only, it's locked by something under the system
[06:33] <chmod775> I am doing it
[06:33] <Samus_Aran> in my experience, the only time ReiserFS (3.x) b0rks out is due to hardware failure
[06:33] <neutrinomass> Sivik: I haven't followed your conversation but as a rule, .desktops go in /usr/share/applications ...
[06:33] <ic56> Iam8up: attrib?
[06:33] <Cntryboy> samus_aran my problem is unrealtournament won't let me choose 1024x768 resolution. It kicks me back to desktop.
[06:33] <NthDegree> Cntryboy, you mean the menu gives you no choice - becuase the openGL driver is experimental for UT\
[06:33] <krazykit> neutrinomass: it's for a login session.
[06:33] <Iam8up> ic56 - everyone has full access
[06:33] <neutrinomass> chmod775: Ok. I'll try to take a look into it so please give me a bug number when you're done (I'll do it at some point tomorrow)
[06:33] <Sivik> neutrinomass, then why are there ones in the /usr/share/xsession folder
[06:33] <Chri[s] > How do you back up movies in ubuntu?
[06:33] <Cntryboy> nthdegree, correct no choice
[06:33] <ryanakca> a user CAN be in more than 1 group, right? (usergroups, ex: addgroup)
[06:34] <Samus_Aran> Cntryboy: you need to check what the error message was that UT2004 spit out.  check ~/.xsession-errors file
[06:34] <chmod775> neutrinomass: sure
[06:34] <neutrinomass> ryanakca: yes :)
[06:34] <theine> Chri[s] : You mean "back up"?
[06:34] <walkover> hey does anybody remeber how to check the hdd transfer rate in linux
[06:34] <mjr> ryanakca, yes, quite a few. Try "id" in a shell window. It'll list your groups.
[06:34] <Samus_Aran> Cntryboy: or run it from a terminal
[06:34] <NthDegree> try getting an updated OpenGL driver, they do them on the website
[06:34] <__mikem> Brb, I have to get something to eat
[06:34] <Cntryboy> its unreal tournament orgiinal not 2004
[06:34] <neutrinomass> krazykit: Um... a login session? I'm not sure then ...
[06:34] <Samus_Aran> Cntryboy: ah
[06:34] <Iam8up> ic56 - which is why i said i thought it was ntfs - if it's not bound to anything running and it's not ntfs, i'd expect it to be ntfs fucked up (the table is read wrong to windows, protecting the file)
[06:34] <theine> walkover: I think you can use "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda" for that
[06:34] <Cntryboy> samus_aran I have an error it spit out
[06:34] <MisterN> cu
[06:34] <Cntryboy> care if I msg u and i'll paste it there
[06:34] <NthDegree> Cntryboy get an updated OpenGL driver off the site :P
[06:34] <theine> walkover: Provided that /dev/hda is actuallu your hard drive
[06:35] <chmod775> neutrinomass: here you go https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50121
[06:35] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: t01@Tech01:~$ sudo dd if=disk1.img of=/dev/fd0 Password:
[06:35] <Geev8> dd: opening `disk1.img': No such file or directory
[06:35] <neutrinomass> krazykit: Apparently yes, the .desktops for the WMs are in /usr/share/xsessions :) Thanks .
[06:35] <Cntryboy> nthdegree what site? I redownloaded nvidia drivers last night, surely they are up to date
[06:35] <dankmiser> help: unclickable 'warning' messages in Azureus (ubuntu dapper / azureus 2.4.0.2 / Java 1.4.2-02)
[06:35] <theine> Geev8: Are you sure that disk1.img is in the current directory?
[06:35] <neutrinomass> Geev8: Are you in the correct directory? Apparently there is no disk1.img file in your current directory ...
[06:35] <NthDegree> Cntryboy UT OpenGL drivers not the nvidia ones
[06:35] <tript> anyone here use pekwm?
[06:36] <ic56> Iam8up: I know little about Windows.  You might try googling for more help.  If you really think your NTFS filesystem is corrupt, then you *definitely* should not attempt to use Linux to interfere further (unless you don't care about losing the entire contents of that disk)
[06:36] <Chri[s] > theine, yes back up?
[06:36] <NthDegree> on the unreal tournament site they updated the in game OpenGL support, get their updates
[06:36] <theine> Geev8: Do "cd ~/Desktop" and try again
[06:36] <__mikem> JUst a random thought, if Kubuntu is ubuntu + kde, and Xubuntu is ubuntu + xfce, why isn't ubuntu + gnome called Gubuntu?
[06:36] <Geev8> yoshiznit123: my disk1.img is at t01 directory
[06:36] <neutrinomass> __mikem: Because it came first :P
[06:36] <walkover> thanks theine
[06:36] <Cntryboy> nthdegree where would I go to?
[06:36] <Cntryboy> the patch is 436, which is the newest
[06:36] <xiojason> are there known suspend/hibernate issues with the new kernel build (2.6.15-25)?
[06:36] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: that is actually a bug with Azureus
[06:36] <NthDegree> __mikem, because ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are real words
[06:36] <Iam8up> ic56 - it's a protectino method, actually, a virus/trojan/whatever will tell windows that it's writable only from the SID x-x-xx while it impersonates being fully accessable to everyone
[06:37] <NthDegree> Cntryboy not a patch, the OpenGL support
[06:37] <NthDegree> just have a look around
[06:37] <jaro> How can I make a USB Device (plugged out and plugged in again ) work  again ?
[06:37] <Iam8up> the fs isn't corrupt in that case
[06:37] <neutrinomass> xiojason: Numberous, especially for thinkpads. You'll find many here: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bugs
[06:37] <dave1966> Hello
[06:37] <xiojason> neutrinomass: thank you very much
[06:37] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: you need to use the Beta version of Azureus.  easiest way is to go to the Azureus web page, click on Beta and then download the .jar file.  simply 'mv' it overtop of the current .jar file for Azureus, to update it
[06:37] <__mikem> NthDegree, thats a sort of scarry coinsidence, its like those african words were ment to be the names of linux distros...lol
[06:37] <Cntryboy> okay so you want me to find opengl support for UT game itself not nvidia open gl drivers right?
[06:37] <neutrinomass> xiojason: Glad to help. If it worked in -23 but broke in -25, don't worry. From what I understand it will be fixed soonish...
[06:37] <NthDegree> yes Cntryboy
[06:37] <dankmiser> Samus_Aran: thanks
[06:37] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: and next time that Azureus on Ubuntu is updated, you can just update it as per usual
[06:38] <ic56> Iam8up: whatever the virus told your system, you should be able to untell.  You just need to learn how to do it.
[06:38] <theine> Chri[s] : There's dvdrip, dvdbackup and probably more in the repos
[06:38] <xiojason> neutrinomass: that's exactly correct. -23 seemed to work great. :)
[06:38] <Cntryboy> any clue to where as I would go, i'm on 2.1KB dial up and just googling a page takes me 15 min
[06:38] <NthDegree> i swear they have updated the support for it 3 or 4 times over the games lifespan :)
[06:38] <dave1966> when you have a moment I have a question
[06:38] <NthDegree> nope I don't play windows games on linux so much anymore
[06:38] <Geev8> plese tell me which command will show which directory am i working around
[06:38] <Iam8up> ic56 - theres no information about this thing anywhere on the itnernet - not even mcafee's site (the AV that discovered it)
[06:38] <theine> Geev8: pwd
[06:38] <NthDegree> and linux versions never work :(
[06:38] <neutrinomass> xiojason: Look at existing bug reports. If one matches your situation completely, add a "me too" and set it to "confirmed". If none match, I think it's best you open a new bug
[06:38] <Sivik> ok, i think i like e16 better than i do e17
[06:39] <Sivik> krazykit, how do i edit my programs menu
[06:39] <krazykit> Sivik: really?  i didn't like e16 that much
[06:39] <Chri[s] > But like is there anything like dvd-shrink?
[06:39] <krazykit> Sivik: e16 or 17?
[06:39] <Chri[s] > cause i can't just copy a full length dvd
[06:39] <Geev8> theine: t01@Tech01:~$ pwd
[06:39] <Geev8> /home/t01
[06:39] <xiojason> neutrinomass: will do. thanks again.
[06:39] <Sivik> krazykit, i like how you can minimize the window but leave the title bar in the active window
[06:39] <__mikem> Another random thought. The only problem I have with kde, is they make it to hard to customize.
[06:39] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: actually, from what I remember the bug is in the GUI toolkit (SWT I think it is called) that Azureus uses with Java
[06:40] <Sivik> krazykit, instead of minimizing is the only way to make it disappear
[06:40] <ic56> Iam8up: are you familiar with the windows attrib command?
[06:40] <__mikem> If it wasn't for that, I would still be using it
[06:40] <theine> Geev8: you command prompt also shows you in which directory you're in
[06:40] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: but it works fine again in the Betas
[06:40] <dave1966> I installed  Ubuntu on a older system and it didn't find my sound card any help would be great
[06:40] <Chri[s] > well
[06:40] <Sivik> krazykit, e17, how do i edit a menu
[06:40] <krazykit> Sivik: that's called shading the window... most window managers do that nowadays ;-)
[06:40] <Chri[s] > if dvdshrink works with wine
[06:40] <garryfre> I made up a can and put a label around it it said "Computer bug spray" and had instructions to spray in the back of the computer repeat as needed, do not use on windows programs as these are indestinquishable from bugs.
[06:40] <Chri[s] > Sup sivik
[06:40] <theine> Geev8: t01@Tech01:~$ means "User t01 on Tech01 in directory ~"
[06:40] <neutrinomass> chmod775: Have you installed anything related to xine ?
[06:40] <__mikem> devel1966, for older systems, Id go with ubuntu lite
[06:40] <garryfre> er, cobol programs
[06:40] <Sivik> Chri[s] , what up
[06:40] <theine> Geev8: And ~ is your home directory
[06:40] <krazykit> Sivik: uh, afaik, use entangle if you want a graphical bit.  you won't have any program bits to do it though.  e17genmenu will make them for you
[06:40] <tsmith> how do i install nvidia drivers on 64bit ubuntu?
[06:40] <__mikem> cobol is so 50 years ago, C/C++/Assembly is where its at
[06:41] <tsmith> so that 3d works... cuz i cannot figure it out
[06:41] <garryfre> !nvidia
[06:41] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:41] <chmod775> neutrinomass: those were all the packages I installed related to xine. Please see the bug I filed. Nothing apart from that
[06:41] <Sivik> krazykit, how do i get e17 to do the shading?
[06:41] <Sivik> Chri[s] , whats going on?
[06:41] <Geev8> theine: so tech01 is it my current directory?
[06:41] <neutrinomass> chmod775: Ahh, sorry, I missed that part ....
[06:41] <dave1966> my system is a 500 mhz with 312 memory
[06:41] <theine> Geev8: No, Tech01 is your machine's name
[06:41] <chmod775> neutrinomass: np
[06:41] <krazykit> Sivik: middle-click/double-click/scroll-wheel-up on the title bar
[06:42] <tsmith> i dont think thats thr right one garryfe
[06:42] <Chri[s] > Sivik, not much
[06:42] <tsmith> that is for 32bit
[06:42] <Geev8> theine: ok that is what i know
[06:42] <Sivik> krazykit, when i double-click, nothing happens
[06:42] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: your Azureus jar file is at /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar
[06:42] <neutrinomass> chmod775: Try reinstalling libxine-extracodecs. Othen than that, no real suggestion :(
[06:42] <Sivik> krazykit, its cause it was maximized
[06:42] <dankmiser> Samus_Aran: thank you for the info, I looking for the link for the 'beta'
[06:42] <Geev8> theine: so right now disk1.img is at /home/t01 directory
[06:42] <garryfre> I've heard there are quite a few packages not ported over to 64 bit linux yet, and that ye might be happier with 32 bit for now. I think it's a shame too, it would be so neat to have true 64 bit computing just for the shineyness of it.
[06:42] <krazykit> Sivik: ah, if it's maximized, it won't shade.  there are still some problems with maximizing programs like mplayer and gthumb.
[06:43] <chmod775> neutrinomass: I installed this package 15 minutes ago but in vain, same problem
[06:43] <ryanakca> ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" What do I do?
[06:43] <neutrinomass> chmod775: :( Don't know, sorry mate
[06:43] <theine> Geev8: Are you sure? Do you see it if you do "ls"
[06:43] <Stork> what's the latest kernel?
[06:43] <krazykit> Sivik: it is, after all, pre-alpha code, so you can't expect perfection.
[06:43] <Sivik> krazykit, ok
[06:43] <garryfre> Its the one the bot gives. Nothing I can do if the info it gives is incorrect.
[06:43] <chmod775> neutrinomass: U don't have to be sorry dude
[06:43] <tsmith> anyone here have 64 bit ubuntu and got nvidia 3d working? these default drivers arent kicking it..... at all
[06:43] <Geev8> theine: ok hold on....
[06:43] <chmod775> neutrinomass: chill :)
[06:43] <theine> Geev8: "ls" is the UNIX equivalent to DOS's "dir" command
[06:43] <tsmith> if so msg i need a bit of help
[06:44] <yUSiyEEE> anyone know how to enable more resolution options for the monitor?
[06:44] <Sivik> krazykit, now it won't run any of my terminals
[06:44] <yUSiyEEE> i only have 640*480 available
[06:44] <krazykit> Sivik: but i'd recommend checking out the user docs on get-e.org
[06:44] <garryfre> !fixres
[06:44] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:44] <Sivik> krazykit, ok
[06:44] <__mikem> I have a 3ghz amd64 and my dad wouldn't let me install windows xp 64 bit eddition. Since I am using vmware, I am not sure if I can run a 64 bit guest os, in a 32 bit host os
[06:44] <neutrinomass> chmod775: I hate it when I drag people along and at the end I can't solve the problem :)
[06:44] <Sivik> yUSiyEEE, you may not have your drivers installed correctly
[06:44] <theine> yUSiyEEE: You probably need to reconfigure the X-server
[06:44] <Geev8> theine: t01@Tech01:~$ ls
[06:44] <Geev8> canopy.pkg2  Desktop  DISK1.IMG  jimmy  massawe
[06:44] <yUSiyEEE> i did the reconfigure
[06:44] <Cntryboy> grr I can't find anything
[06:44] <chmod775> neutrinomass: Don't worry u did ur best
[06:44] <Cntryboy> lol
[06:44] <Sivik> yUSiyEEE, what kind of card do you have?
[06:44] <krazykit> Sivik: well, it has some defaults that you may not have.  you could hit alt-escape to bring up the Run dialogue, and run the terminal from there until you get it all configured
[06:44] <neutrinomass> Geev8: It's in capitals. Linux is case-sensitive
[06:44] <chmod775> neutrinomass: U did ur best
[06:44] <yUSiyEEE> and enable the other resolution option
[06:44] <__mikem> HEy, does anyone here run vmware
[06:45] <Iam8up> ic56 - nope
[06:45] <yUSiyEEE> ati rage
[06:45] <theine> Geev8: OK, here's another thing: The file system is case sensitive
[06:45] <yUSiyEEE> old card
[06:45] <yUSiyEEE> it used to work on my lcd
[06:45] <Sivik> krazykit, yeah, but the problem is, that non of the terminals from the run command aren't working
[06:45] <theine> Geev8: so disk1.img and DISK1.IMG is not the same
[06:45] <yUSiyEEE> but i just switched it to another crt
[06:45] <krazykit> Sivik: try xterm?
[06:45] <yUSiyEEE> and did the reconifg
[06:45] <Sivik> krazykit, would that have anything to do with a IPC error when i started
[06:45] <krazykit> Sivik: no clue what an ipc error is
[06:45] <Geev8> theine: ok you my friends let me check it again
[06:45] <piqqy> why isn't Xubuntu 6.06 letting me do a raid config in the partitioner?
[06:46] <Sivik> krazykit, xterm, the application failed to start
[06:46] <__mikem> How to install an ati card, 1. Mount it on a wooden post in the yard. 2. Load shotgun, 3. FIre at will. 4. Buy an nvidia
[06:46] <tsmith> man this is so annoying..
[06:46] <garryfre> I hate what happene dto me. I get an external hard drive, figuring it would last becasue I turn it on only for backups right? So I go to turn it on and I get nothing. Many componants don't truly turn off and well, a spike fried it while it was turned off!
[06:46] <Sivik> __mikem, now thats funny
[06:46] <dave1966> I have no sound on my computer since install and there is no default card in the sound area
[06:46] <ic56> Iam8up: then why didn't you say so the first time I told you to fix the attributes?  Here:  read this: http://www.computerhope.com/attribhl.htm
[06:46] <theine> Geev8: Try: sudo dd if=DISK1.IMG of=/dev/fd0
[06:46] <dave1966> what am I missing pls
[06:46] <garryfre> LoL Mikem
[06:46] <Sivik> __mikem, its kinda like how to run windows stable, 1. install linux, 2. get vmware, 3. install windows
[06:46] <__mikem> I love that one
[06:46] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/files/Azureus2403-B41.jar
[06:46] <yUSiyEEE> guess i should get a better card for this thing
[06:46] <krazykit> Sivik: :-/  what other ones do you have?  eterm, rxvt, et?
[06:46] <Geev8> theine: it work now
[06:46] <theine> Geev8: cool
[06:46] <yUSiyEEE> let me try it out
[06:46] <Geev8> theine: thanks alot
[06:46] <Samus_Aran> dankmiser: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php  << from that page
[06:46] <Sivik> rxvt: the application failed to start
[06:47] <tsmith> suppose to be a support channel seems to lack thereof, either that or noone gives 2 shats about my situation
[06:47] <theine> Geev8: You're welcome
[06:47] <garryfre> Thats how to install a hole into a video card.
[06:47] <Stork> hmm.. i installed ubuntu breezy from the x64 install CD.. then upgraded to dapper.. now if i want to use a dual core AMD system i need to download the k8-smp kernel off synaptic and just reboot onto that kernel??
[06:47] <__mikem> Sivik, do you know if I can run 64 bit linux under 32 bit windows in vmware, I have been wanting to try it and I don't know if its safe
[06:47] <Sivik> krazykit, eterm, the application failed to start
[06:47] <Sivik> __mikem: you should be able to
[06:47] <neutrinomass> tsmith: Or maybe nobody knows ?
[06:47] <garryfre> Hmm, sounds about right Stork
[06:47] <tsmith> someone should..
[06:47] <__mikem> Ill have to try it later when I actually have spare time to play around with it
[06:47] <theine> Stork: Yes
[06:47] <paxl> Euh.. can somone help me, Assuming I cant use teh Ubunutu live CD to install and the only thing I have is a kororaa boot cd.. how can I install ubuntu ? Is ther a net install
[06:47] <krazykit> Sivik: well, i don't know what you have installed.  it's strange that even xterm didn't start.  maybe go bug the guys at #e?
[06:47] <_rodney> tsmith: what prob ?
[06:47] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: current releases of VMware allow you to run 64bit operating systems on 32 and 64bit machines
[06:48] <paxl> or somehting taht ca be boot form another distrib ?
[06:48] <krazykit> paxl: read up on debootstrap
[06:48] <Geev8> theine: from you i lean some thing know that this is my first week to be close with linux
[06:48] <Chri[s] > Well k3b + wine + dvdshrink = acceptable
[06:48] <tsmith> i wanna get nvidia driver installed on ubuntu 6.06 64bit edition..
[06:48] <tsmith> im running some default crap
[06:48] <Chri[s] > but what about sony's encription
[06:48] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: performance wouldn't be all that great doing a 64bit O/S on a 32bit CPU, though .. performance is great in the other direction though
[06:48] <__mikem> My machine is 64 bit, but the host os, namely windows xp is 32 bit
[06:48] <theine> Geev8: Don't worry, you'll manage
[06:48] <Stork> thanks theine and garryfre.. also do you know if the grub boot order will be changed automatically?
[06:48] <Geev8> theine: so am  a beginer to linux and i started with ubuntu
[06:49] <dankmiser> Samus_Aran: got it...and I want the jar file and overwrite the one in /usr/share/java/
[06:49] <__mikem> Samus_Aran, I have an amd64, but it runs 32 bit windows
[06:49] <theine> Geev8: Good choice!
[06:49] <neutrinomass> tsmith: I'm not sure, but I'm under the impression that you can't have the binary drivers with 64bit Ubuntu....
[06:49] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: ah, I see .. and you want to try out a 64bit GNU/Linux distro on top of that 32bit Windows ?
[06:49] <_rodney> tsmith: nvidia release them for linux.. erm i dunoo about the 64bit versions tho
[06:49] <theine> Stork: not sure about that
[06:50] <tsmith> there are 64bit version of driver out
[06:50] <_rodney> check they exist and dowload em ,,, the readme etc,., explains how to install then
[06:50] <neutrinomass> tsmith: Sorry, you probably can ....
[06:50] <__mikem> Samus_Aran, yup, thats the idea. I was told it wasn't a good idea though
[06:50] <garryfre> Here is the link I used, it worked for both ubunto and kbuntu https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[06:50] <tsmith> the thing is how to go about installing it...
[06:50] <Sivik> krazykit, i just got eterm to work
[06:50] <tsmith> its saying my modules are mismatched or whatever
[06:50] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: that will work, but it will be running the 64bit emulation from your CPU's 32bit emulation, as your Windows kernel doesn't support 64bit
[06:50] <garryfre> stork yes it will change automatically.
[06:50] <_rodney> ah there you go ;)
[06:50] <tsmith> i had to do the same thing with 32bit ubuntu.
[06:50] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: so you'll be triple-emulating =p
[06:50] <tsmith> i just forgot i just came back to ubuntu
[06:50] <mirak> hi
[06:50] <tsmith> preventing me from actually installing the real drivers..
[06:51] <garryfre> Stork test
[06:51] <__mikem> Samus_Aran, that is just not worth the trouble, triple-layer emulation is a performance nightmare
[06:51] <theine> garryfre: what actually determines which kernel is the top-most one in the automagically generated kernel list?
[06:51] <garryfre> Stork Newest will go on top.
[06:51] <garryfre> Newest on top.
[06:51] <dave1966> Have a problem with no ssound card installed.  New to Linux system could use a wee bit of help please
[06:51] <neopsyche> does anyone know how to configure a modem on ubuntu?
[06:51] <Geev8> theine: can you tell me what basic thinks i need to know first that will make me to lean/work easly linux os
[06:51] <garryfre> er most recently installed.
[06:51] <_rodney> whats the exact error you get ? tsmith
[06:52] <tsmith> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[06:52] <garryfre> Same way you install ATI cards.
[06:52] <_rodney> youve got the right download for your kernel ?
[06:52] <neutrinomass> neopsyche: What modem ?
[06:52] <AlexC> Hey
[06:52] <Geev8> any body can you tell me what basic thinks i need to know first that will make me to lean/work easly linux os
[06:52] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: it may not be as bad as you think, being that AMD is quite good at emulating the 32bit CPU (almost 2x32bit CPUs for each 64bit one), but you will then have VMware's 64bit emulation to contend with. all in all, you will lose performance over just running a 32bit GNU/Linux distro
[06:52] <AlexC> You know when you scroll over the Speaker Icon, and it decrease/increase the volume, is there anyway to get it to increase/decrease/mute ALL output channels?
[06:53] <Stork> thank you garryfre. my faith in ubuntu has been restored!
[06:53] <tsmith> one sec i cant exactly copy paste what it says..
[06:53] <Geev8> because am a beginer to linux os
[06:53] <blanky> AlexC, master volume?
[06:53] <theine> Geev8: There's a free Ubuntu book coming out rather soon I think
[06:53] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: you're much better off installing a 64bit GNU/Linux and then emulating the Win32 from that base
[06:53] <garryfre> Stork Welcome
[06:53] <neutrinomass> Geev8: Well, to begin with, man is your friend. If you don't know what a command does (say for example "chmod"), you do "man chmod" in a terminal and you get help.
[06:53] <__mikem> Samus_Aran, What about duel booting 64 bit linux with 32bit windows
[06:53] <pradeep> theine, isnt there already one?
[06:53] <AlexC> blanky: no that doesn't work beause I have 5.1 Surround sound - so to get my surround sound working I have to increase the Wave Surround channel
[06:53] <blanky> Stork
[06:53] <blanky> !nvidia
[06:53] <ubotu> nvidia is probably a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:54] <theine> pradeep: sure, could be, do you have a link?
[06:54] <garryfre> I want the upgrade to the man command ... woman
[06:54] <_rodney> ;)
[06:54] <aMit--> Hello, I'm pretty new to ubuntu, yet I'm trying to install some things, no problems so far, but now all my user access has been removed :S, Only I use this computer, anyone have an idea?
[06:54] <Samus_Aran> __mikem: you should have no problems dual-booting, if you don't mind actually having to reboot
[06:54] <blanky> Aleks-, sorry then
[06:54] <Stork> blanky, ?
[06:54] <_rodney> aMit--: you cant log in ?
[06:54] <AlexC> blanky: unless there is another way to get 5.1 surround sound working?
[06:54] <blanky> aMit--, what? Can you be a bit more specific please?
[06:54] <__mikem> This thing can boot into windows in 21 seconds
[06:54] <theine> Geev8: http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
[06:54] <blanky> Stork, read what ubotu said
[06:54] <neutrinomass> Geev8: Other than that, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands might be useful. But I don't think you'll have much trouble if you use the graphical user environment )
[06:54] <aMit--> yes, sorry I'm just too new
[06:54] <garryfre> Boy, I'm in a humous/silly mood today. Not sure if that's good or bad.
[06:55] <blanky> aMit--, no problem
[06:55] <pradeep> theine,
[06:55] <pradeep> theine, http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
[06:55] <Cntryboy> Hey gang i've download The latest stable OpenGL renderer is version 3.1: utglr31.zip (48 KB) for my unreal tournament game.. How can I unzip this file using linux?
[06:55] <theine> Geev8: I believe it will also be available free of charge under a open content license
[06:55] <aMit--> anyway, I'm logged in, just in the System menu and in Administration tab, I cant see all the options I've seen before
[06:55] <theine> pradeep: it says August 4
[06:55] <pradeep> theine, and im late :P
[06:55] <garryfre> What is the file name Cntryboy
[06:55] <garryfre> ?
[06:55] <Geev8> sorry am quite because am trying to record all what you tell me
[06:55] <blanky> aMit--, was there anything you did that you think might've caused this, what was the last notable thing you did/installed
[06:56] <Cntryboy> garryfre I told ya
[06:56] <Cntryboy> utglr31.zip (48 KB)
[06:56] <garryfre> Doh
[06:56] <_rodney> unzip file.zip
[06:56] <pradeep> theine, thought it was already out :/
[06:56] <garryfre> There ye go.
[06:56] <Cntryboy> where will it unzip it to?
[06:56] <_rodney> current dir
[06:56] <Cntryboy> ok
[06:56] <Cntryboy> thx
[06:56] <Cntryboy> brb
[06:56] <_rodney> np ;)
[06:56] <tsmith> ok when i go to install it says  "unable to find system utility please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. if you do have binutils installed then please check that 'ld' is in your path..."
[06:57] <aMit--> Erm, I did not change any access in MY account, I've changed the root 'cause I didn't knew anything about the sudo command, now that I've learned how to use it, I've restored the root user to its last settings and then I just couldn't use any of the options in the administration tab, when I restarted the computer, all the options were just removed
[06:57] <Stork> blanky, why?
[06:57] <__mikem> tsmith do apt-get build-essential
[06:57] <mortal5> why can I not change my screen resolution to 1280x1024?  I was running this resolution in slackware
[06:57] <blanky> Stork, forget about it
[06:57] <garryfre> Hmmm, maybe need to get build essentials?
[06:57] <_rodney> apt-get install binutils
[06:57] <garryfre> ubotu tell mortal5 about fixres
[06:58] <siriusnova> im just curoius - how many people are having problems with the new kernel update, raise your hand
[06:58] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell neopsyche about winmodem
[06:58] <__mikem> _rodney he should just do apt-get build essential, and get that out of the way
[06:58] <morphix> mortal5: you need to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:58] <_rodney> ah thanks ;)
[06:58] <aMit--> Was just wondering if there's any way to give me access through the files or something like that...
[06:58] <tsmith> ok gettin build-essential
[06:58] <tsmith> dling/installing
[06:58] <__mikem> xorg.conf is so easy to manually edit that a caveman could do it
[06:59] <garryfre> I hope that helps
[06:59] <Mikelo> anybody manage to watch world cup streaming in ubuntu?
[06:59] <garryfre> I remember that geiko commercial. Don't insult the cavemen
[06:59] <__mikem> lol I had no idea they were still around
[06:59] <Mikelo> i want to watch the second half czech rep.-ghana game
[06:59] <tsmith> now it says you appear ot be running x server
[06:59] <tsmith> i guess i have to close this out
[06:59] <garryfre> "Next time do a little research." LOL
[07:00] <tsmith> brb..
[07:00] <abo> does anyone knows how can I compress a jpeg picture (by reducing its quality )
[07:00] <__mikem> lmfao
[07:00] <tsmith> i know shit will go wrong
[07:00] <tsmith> i went this b4
[07:00] <tsmith> i just hope i dont break anything..
[07:00] <tsmith> heh
[07:00] <Mikelo> abo, imagemagick
[07:00] <dankmiser> Samus_Aran: ok, swapped out the file, started up AZ, no messages, so hopefully if I get any I can finally click on "hide" :o)
[07:00] <krazykit> abo: the gimp will do it too
[07:00] <Mikelo> abo, gimp
[07:00] <aMit--> Well, guys, what file should I edit to regain myself access to synaptic and users management
[07:00] <garryfre> Its so simple a caveman can break it.
[07:00] <__mikem> Now thats just mean
[07:01] <neutrinomass> aMit--: What's the problem ?
[07:01] <Mikelo> any streams help!!!!!!!!!!! world cup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:01] <aMit--> I've lost my user access, don't ask me how 'cause I really have no idea
[07:01] <abo> Mikelo, I was playing around with convert from imagemagick, but couldn't do it, can you help?
[07:01] <__mikem> aMit, can you log in as root
[07:01] <neutrinomass> aMit--: sudo access or your account ?
[07:01] <aMit--> my account
[07:02] <SonicChao> Mikelo, adding more exclamation marks doesn't make you get help faster.
[07:02] <abo> krazykit, Mikelo, I couldn't figure out how to do it using gimp, can you help?
[07:02] <Mikelo> abo,  u need to reduce size or quality or both?
[07:02] <abo> Mikelo, size in terms of how many KB, not width and heigh,
[07:02] <aMit--> Don't think I can log in as root, but last time I saw root didn't have access to those stuff I need either
[07:02] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Ok.... reboot. Enter grub's rescue mode and add a user from there ... it will bring you to a console. 'useradd' is what you need ...
[07:02] <pepinito> hi
[07:02] <abo> Mikelo, so I need to reduce quality
[07:02] <Mikelo> abo, open jpg file in jpg then save as... change quality
[07:03] <pepinito> someone knows which tv apps ubuntu has?
[07:03] <aMit--> just to re-add my user?
[07:03] <_rodney> Mikelo: you have access to a stream already ?
[07:03] <__mikem> I always thought the idea of vecter graphics was to reduce quality loss
[07:03] <Jemt> NOO, please help me. I just did a 'rm *.tmp documents/ -R' which removed ALL my documents. Can I get them back ?
[07:03] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Oh, sorry. I thought you deleted the only user on the system .... To add a user System->Administration->Users and Groups ...
[07:03] <krazykit> abo: save-as... and you can save it with lower quality
[07:03] <__mikem> Jemt, yes, its called backup your data
[07:03] <garryfre> Oh nice, every day I learn something worth coming here for and todya I learned it from neutrinomass about rescue mode adding a user.
[07:03] <krazykit> __mikem: no, it's to be able to scale the image as big as you want it.
[07:03] <Mikelo> _rodney, no!!
[07:04] <Mikelo> _rodney, just radio
[07:04] <Jemt> __mikem: .......
[07:04] <krazykit> __mikem: if you want lossless picture files, look at tiff and png.
[07:04] <pepinito> tv apps that came with Ubuntu?
[07:04] <_rodney> Jemt: its very difficult most would say no... but you can...theres an undelete program abgout somewhere
[07:04] <aMit--> neutrinomass, thats the problem in my user, I don't have "Users and Groups" option anymore (and more options like synaptic and some others)
[07:04] <Jemt> __mikem: I do have backup - but it's a few days old
[07:04] <neutrinomass> Jemt: ext3? No. You can't undelete them. Your only chance is "cat /dev/hda1" and grepping for your files.
[07:04] <Mikelo> _rodney, i guess u dont either
[07:04] <_rodney> nope lol
[07:04] <__mikem> Jemt, that will have to do
[07:04] <garryfre> Hmm, check trash can?
[07:04] <__mikem> atleast you won't be starting from scratch
[07:04] <Jemt> Bugger!!!
[07:04] <Jemt> Well, thanks, guys
[07:04] <_rodney> Jemt: dd if=/dev/thedrive of=myfiles
[07:05] <_rodney> then search myfiles for your files...
[07:05] <neutrinomass> aMit--: "gksudo users-admin" in a terminal - If I understand correctly, it's just the menu entries that have gone ?
[07:05] <__mikem> Jemt in the future, never use rm -R, its too dangerous, if you need to do recursive removal, use rm -iR for interactive mode
[07:05] <zielu> fdfd
[07:05] <Mikelo> abo, im reading the convert manual
[07:05] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me importing my files from Thunderbird Windows too Thunderbird Linux?
[07:05] <Courtlandj> Hello everyone.
[07:05] <aMit--> I think so, so far I'm only familiar with the menues, I'm not so good with terminal commands yet, but working on it
[07:05] <__mikem> Jemt also, you should echo the wildcards so you know what they expand to
[07:05] <Jemt> __mikem: Ah, good idea
[07:05] <neutrinomass> Jemt: It's quite uncool that you don't get undelete in ext3.... :(
[07:05] <Jemt> __mikem: How do I remove .tmp files only ?
[07:05] <Zoo> anyone knows which is the (Super) Button? I need it to use some shortcuts with compiz
[07:06] <tsmith> ok now its tell my i have the wrong kernal
[07:06] <Jemt> neutrinomass: Indeed
[07:06] <tsmith> to install nvidia driver...
[07:06] <Mikelo> abo, convert -quality x old_file.jpg new_file.jpg play with x try 4,3,7
[07:06] <__mikem> Jemt, what exactly did you type
[07:06] <garryfre> the nvidia driver?
[07:06] <ticc> hi. during instalation of ubuntu i have not given user name, just only password, and naw i'm unable to log in. how can i solve that problem?
[07:06] <tsmith> yes
[07:06] <Mikelo> abo, then ll *.jpg to verify size
[07:06] <nickrud> Zoo, on my keyboard it's the start key
[07:06] <tsmith> it got farther but now i guess its talking about the linux kernal
[07:06] <tsmith> has to be a certain version i guess to install
[07:06] <Jemt> __mikem: rm *.tmp Documents/ -R'
[07:06] <garryfre> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 there, try this again to get your kernal working.
[07:06] <_rodney> i think i remember having to compile my kernel to use then drivers for 32bit tsmith
[07:06] <neutrinomass> Jemt: rm *.tmp .... But (DONT DO THIS) if you type : "rm * .tmp" by accident, you remove ALL files, and afterwards all the ones that and in *.tmp (it's the space that messes it up ... )
[07:06] <tsmith> i had to go thru this with 32bit to.. if i remember
[07:07] <Zoo> thanks nickrud, i supposed it was that, but it's not working... i'll see what i can find
[07:07] <garryfre> if you have nvidia
[07:07] <graveson> how do i turn off utf-8 and what is the impact
[07:07] <__mikem> if you want to just remove the .tmp files rm *.tmp would have surficed
[07:07] <Courtlandj> ticc: During install you should have entered your "full name" and your "account name". The account name is your login name.
[07:07] <aMit--> neutrinomass, from what I understand, I can't see those options in the menu since my user has lost it's access to it
[07:07] <abo> Mikelo, the Gimp seems to have worked, I'll do the convert quality one now
[07:07] <abo> Mikelo, thx
[07:07] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Did "gksudo users-admin" work ?
[07:07] <Mikelo> abo, dont bother!
[07:07] <aMit--> nop
[07:07] <tsmith> any idea how to find out which kernal i need
[07:07] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Can you sudo ?
[07:07] <aMit--> it gave an error
[07:07] <aMit--> erm
[07:08] <garryfre> I guess sometimes installing the latest kernel is so easy a caveman can break it.
[07:08] <tsmith> and how to go about doing it again
[07:08] <ticc> Courtlandj: but i didn't type anythihng in "account name" filed :(
[07:08] <garryfre> what processor?
[07:08] <aMit--> what should I try to sudo? :P
[07:08] <aMit--> to see if I can
[07:08] <__mikem> But you need to be in that dirrectory.
[07:08] <neutrinomass> aMit--: "sudo test"
[07:08] <_rodney> it should say in the howtos..
[07:08] <aMit--> ok
[07:08] <_rodney> !nvidia
[07:08] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:08] <_rodney> hmm
[07:08] <__mikem> Ok, kids what did we learn today. When it comes to recursive file removal, just say no.
[07:08] <aMit--> erm it asked for a pass, I put in my password and it just moved on, didn't say anything
[07:08] <_rodney> ;)
[07:08] <aMit--> so i think i can then?
[07:08] <pepinito> someone knows which tv apps Ubuntu has?
[07:09] <GullyFoyle> if i use apt-get install <pkg> will it automatically upgrade to the newest version of an app i already have? or do i have to remove the old one first?
[07:09] <Courtlandj> ticc: It would have been automatically filled with your full name I believe. I don't remember precisely, but try logging in with "firstname" (of whatever you entered as your first name) or maybe "firstname-lastname" or something like that.
[07:09] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Yes. Now "gksudo users-admin" ... Pastebin the error if it fails (/msg ubotu pastebin if you don't know what pastebin is )
[07:09] <_rodney> pepinito: theres loadsa video players in linux...
[07:09] <ticc> how can i recover my password using live cd? is it possible? where is that nuser name and pass stored?
[07:09] <_rodney> s/in/for
[07:09] <aMit--> ok brb then
[07:09] <tsmith> wow am i growing ever so impatient
[07:09] <__mikem> ticc, yes it is
[07:09] <graveson> how do i turn off utf-8 and what is the impact - anyone
[07:09] <garryfre> I did a recursive zip of slackware once. Yep, it put it all nice and neat into one backup file then deleted all the original files and directories.
[07:09] <__mikem> but you need to know how to mount your root filesystem and you need to hope the passwords file isn't encrypted
[07:10] <FR500> ticc: you dont need to know where
[07:10] <Courtlandj> ticc: You can never recover a password, but you can set a new one.
[07:10] <FR500> just boot with the live cd and change it
[07:10] <pepinito> _rodney; TV apps?
[07:10] <Jemt> How can I remove all .tmp files from a specific folder including all sub-folders ?
[07:10] <_rodney> pepinito: no compute... i dont understand what you mean lol
[07:10] <ticc> Courtlandj: how???
[07:10] <neutrinomass> ticc: You can't recover your password. Reboot and select "rescue mode" in grub. It will boot you to a terminal. Do "passwd yourusernamehere" and change the password.
[07:10] <__mikem> Jemt, you can't
[07:10] <NoUse> pepinito try zapping and tvtime
[07:10] <pepinito> _rodney; TV Players
[07:10] <Frogzoo> Jemt: find . -name '*.tmp' -exec rm {} \;
[07:10] <pepinito> ok
[07:10] <Nikyo> Hi, can anyone recommend a nice firewall with gui ?
[07:11] <_rodney> TV card drivers ?
[07:11] <aMit--> neutrinomass it just said that I'm not in the "soduer" list
[07:11] <mjr> Jemt, find foldername -name "*tmp" -exec rm '{}' \;
[07:11] <NoUse> !firewall
[07:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[07:11] <__mikem> well, I guess you could do that
[07:11] <mjr> echo
[07:11] <Frogzoo> Nikyo: firestarter
[07:11] <aMit--> sudo*
[07:11] <__mikem> brb have to take a shower
[07:11] <ticc> neutrinomass: but the case is i don't know user name
[07:11] <ncel> ola
[07:11] <pepinito> _rodney: no, not drivers, apps
[07:11] <Jemt> Frogzoo && mjr: Thanks
[07:11] <chmod775> aMit--: kya haal hai ?
[07:11] <_rodney> video players ?
[07:11] <pepinito> _rodney: let me try tvtime
[07:11] <aMit--> what?
[07:11] <neutrinomass> ticc: In a terminal, do "cat /etc/passwd". Your username should be somewhere there ...
[07:11] <aMit--> english maybe
[07:11] <pepinito> _rodney:  just wanted the name to find out
[07:11] <_rodney> mplayer
[07:11] <_rodney> ;)
[07:12] <Nikyo> NoUse: thank you
[07:12] <Courtlandj> ticc: Go into .. nevermind, neutrino got it.
[07:12] <ticc> neutrinomass Courtlandj ok, i'll try that one... thx to all :)
[07:12] <Courtlandj> ticc: There will be lots of users displayed there
[07:12] <tsmith> how do i change my linux image kernal so that i can instrall nvidia driver?
[07:12] <tsmith> eh...
[07:12] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Reboot into rescue mode. Do "nano -w /etc/group" and add yourself to the "admin" group....
[07:12] <tsmith> i forgot the cmd to do so so....
[07:12] <Courtlandj> ticc: Like gdm, syslog, and so on. Look for the one that's you.
[07:12] <aMit--> erm ok
[07:13] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Before you do that, can you pastebin /etc/sudoers ?
[07:13] <_rodney> erm you doing a kernel compile ?
[07:13] <GullyFoyle> i did apt-cache show <pkg> and it showed a newer version of an app i use. if i apt-get install that pkg will it automatically upgrade it to the new pkg or do i need to remove the old one first?
[07:13] <neutrinomass> GullyFoyle: Automatically upgraded ...
[07:13] <GullyFoyle> thx
[07:13] <aMit--> erm sure i'll try, as I said this is my first day at ubuntu or any dist, so I'm not that good at finding things, but i'll try
[07:13] <siriusnova> aMit - what are you trying to do?
[07:13] <neutrinomass> aMit--: It's very weird that such a thing should hapen. Please tell me you didn't choose the "expert" mode during isntallation !
[07:14] <pepinito> today i got 74 upgrades, is that normal?
[07:14] <tsmith> heh i am this close - to giving up with this
[07:14] <tsmith> and go back to xp or something
[07:14] <tsmith> this is ridiculous
[07:14] <graveson> how do i turn off utf-8 and what is the impact - anyone
[07:14] <neutrinomass> pepinito: Yes, gnoem 2.4.12 hit the repos ..
[07:14] <zielu> jest tu ktos z polski
[07:14] <siriusnova> tsmith - what is rediculous
[07:14] <chmod775> pepinito: Lol
[07:14] <pepinito> ok
[07:14] <tsmith> i cannot eevn get these nvidia drivers on here
[07:14] <] GoldenDragon> in what directory are the plugins found for firefox?
[07:14] <_rodney> tsmith: you will in the end then... so you may as well stop wasting time...
[07:14] <siriusnova> tsmith - nvidia drivers are easy
[07:14] <aMit--> neutrinomass, Couldn't display "/etc/sudoers".
[07:14] <siriusnova> rodney - shut up
[07:14] <_rodney> lol
[07:15] <siriusnova> ill help you tsmith
[07:15] <Scorpmoon> http://digg.com/software/Why_hasn_t_Linux_made_it_mainstream_on_the_desktop_
[07:15] <tsmith> this is 64 bit edition i think its asking me to go back to a older linux image kernal
[07:15] <garryfre> I'd just reboot, choose the old kernel from grub, and then carefully remove the new kernel entry in /boot/grub/grub.lst because if the nvidia drivers are not there, something fubar
[07:15] <tsmith> in order to install this driver..
[07:15] <Courtlandj> I have a bluetooth problem, y'all. I have a Bluetooth keyboard, and it's already discovered and set up. I'm typing on it now, as a matter of fact. However, it only behaves when I discover it by doing a: `sudo hidd --search`. If I just start typing on it, the computer will detect the keyboard BUT I will get the repeating key problem. Pressing "A" will leave "AAAAAAAAAAA" on my screen.
[07:15] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Yes, sorry, my bad. You need sudo in the first place to view that file. Did you select "expert" mode ?
[07:15] <neutrinomass> aMit--: During installation, that is.
[07:15] <aMit--> Nope
[07:15] <Nikyo> firestarter is nice :-)
[07:15] <siriusnova> tsmith - your running ubuntu 6.06 64 bit?
[07:15] <dylan_> Must all software be open source?  Why is open better than proprietary?
[07:15] <tsmith> yep
[07:15] <Courtlandj> Anybody with any bluetooth experience?
[07:15] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Does the file exist or did you get permission denied ?
[07:16] <neutrinomass> dylan_: Please discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic. :)
[07:16] <Courtlandj> dylan_: Because then anybody can fix it.
[07:16] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me importing my files from Thunderbird Windows too Thunderbird Linux?
[07:16] <siriusnova> tsmith - you dont really need to run 64 bit
[07:16] <garryfre> Ouch, I had that problem. I had to take my keyboard, and jump up and down on it to fix the problem.
[07:16] <aMit--> It exists with a red X on the top right corner of the icon
[07:16] <_rodney> dylan_: coz you can change os code and compile and it and release it etc... nothing you can do with prop code legally...
[07:16] <tsmith> i have a 64bit cpu so i figured why not. heh
[07:16] <siriusnova> just run 32bit - a lot of software still has issues with 64 bit linux
[07:16] <siriusnova> and its not as "automatic" as 32 bit yet
[07:16] <siriusnova> ie - drivers etc..
[07:16] <graveson> how do i turn off utf-8 and what is the impact - anyone
[07:16] <siriusnova> tsmith - you wont see that much of a difference unless you have like gobs of ram
[07:16] <tsmith> i just need to know the cmd to change my linux kernal..
[07:17] <tsmith> i used to know it i been outta linux for a while
[07:17] <] GoldenDragon> when installing plugins for firefox, where are the files usually stored?
[07:17] <bingogu> how do find back my rubish bin in the tasktray,i just deleted it in a mistake
[07:17] <tsmith> i had to go thru the method myself b4 even in 32bit ubuntu.
[07:17] <Courtlandj> graveson: It's just a matter of locales, if you'd rather use iso-8859-1 instead of UTF8, you can.
[07:17] <tsmith> so i know it cannot possibly be that hard
[07:17] <siriusnova> tsmith - do this open synaptic
[07:17] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Ok, then do as I told you. Restart, boot into rescue mode. "nano -w /etc/group". Add your username to the "admin" group.. ctrl+x to exit nano (save the changes). Restart. Sudo must work ...
[07:17] <tsmith> i am seeing everything i am familiar with
[07:17] <Stork> is it possible to get lm_sensors working with an nForce4 motherboard on dapper with the 2.6 kernel?
[07:17] <aMit--> and then when sudo works?
[07:17] <tsmith> then what?
[07:17] <siriusnova> From the main menubar open System --> Administration -> Synaptic
[07:17] <garryfre> tsmith: The old kernels should still be available via grub/lilo
[07:17] <graveson> courtlandj: i just need to change it temporarily ,how do i do this
[07:18] <siriusnova> tsmith - you still have the old kernel installed?
[07:18] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Then you will be able to create a new user and fix the mess in the old one (something broke badly)
[07:18] <aMit--> be able, how?
[07:18] <tsmith> i have no idea i just did a fresh install of ubuntu
[07:18] <tsmith> i wanna get 3d going
[07:18] <siriusnova> tsmith - ok what's your video card?
[07:18] <Courtlandj> graveson: I've never tried, but I think if you do a `dpkg-reconfigure base-install` ?
[07:18] <tsmith> 6800 pci-e
[07:19] <neutrinomass> aMit--: Well, it depends on a number of things. Getting sudo fixed should be your first priority. Then you can ask again in this channel (if I am not around somebody else will help you) :)
[07:19] <siriusnova> and tell me your kernel version with "uname -a" in a terminal
[07:19] <aMit--> alrighty, brb then
[07:19] <tsmith> Linux tsmith 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:28:03 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:19] <siriusnova> hmm ok
[07:19] <graveson> courtlandj: thanks
[07:19] <abo> is it possible to have 2 files with the same name in the same directory in linux?
[07:19] <siriusnova> tsmith - so you have X running right now and can use gnome right?
[07:19] <siriusnova> u just want 3D acceleration
[07:19] <tsmith> yep
[07:20] <siriusnova> ok
[07:20] <apokryphos> abo: no
[07:20] <siriusnova> lemme go t nvidia's website, gimme a sec
[07:20] <siriusnova> to
[07:20] <Courtlandj> tsmith: You want to enable the restricted repositories
[07:20] <siriusnova> yeah that too
[07:20] <Stork> is it possible to get lm_sensors working with an nForce4 motherboard on dapper with the 2.6 kernel?
[07:20] <tsmith> how to do that? and why? is taht gonna install the drivers...
[07:20] <Courtlandj> tsmith: Yes, and you do that by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:21] <garryfre> With my dapper I found the restricted already enabled by default.
[07:21] <siriusnova> Courtlandj - thats the hard way
[07:21] <siriusnova> heh
[07:21] <tsmith> =o
[07:21] <tsmith> no need for that then
[07:21] <siriusnova> in Synaptic you can go to "settings" and "repositories"
[07:21] <Courtlandj> Well fine.  =)
[07:21] <siriusnova> and enable all of them
[07:21] <siriusnova> included restricted i believe :P
[07:22] <cappiz> is there a way i can clean up my hdd auto? like it removes files not needed etc... ?
[07:22] <Courtlandj> Yeah, do what sirius says, I always forget that some ppl use synaptic!  =)
[07:22] <abo> apokryphos, I have 2 files with the same name in the same directory, I can't understand how it's happening
[07:22] <garryfre> Even the repository that says "I'm the programs your mother warned you about!"
[07:22] <apokryphos> abo: perhaps one is a directory and not a file?
[07:22] <Courtlandj> tsmith: Anyway, enable those restricted repositiories in Synaptic...
[07:23] <abo> ah got it, one is .JPG and the other is .jpg (just the case is different)
[07:23] <siriusnova> then install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25
[07:23] <siriusnova> package
[07:23] <Courtlandj> tsmith: first, go to edit -> reload package information
[07:24] <bingogu> oh no
[07:24] <garryfre> No searching for thematching nvidia module?
[07:24] <Bassetts> what is the easiest way to transfer files from my pc to a remote pc over ssh??
[07:24] <roryy> scp or sftp
[07:24] <siriusnova> actually since i dont have an nvidia card perhaps someone who has one can help tsmith as im not sure of the exact process to install the nvidia driver through synaptic
[07:24] <wsjunior> hello guys. im having some troubles with my ati card. it is an ati x200. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the wiki instructions and after reboot the laptop i cant enter in gnome anymore. after typing the login and password at gdm the laptop freezes and i have to restart. i just can use gnome if i comment out the load dri line at xorg.conf. could anybody help me?
[07:24] <Courtlandj> tsmith: That will get you the latest list of what is available in the restricted repositories.
[07:25] <garryfre> This is what always worked for me .... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:25] <garryfre> It works for ubuntu too
[07:25] <tsmith> goddddd
[07:25] <tsmith> deja vuu of crap
[07:25] <aMit--> neut, I was in that file already
[07:25] <bingogu> somebody help me to get back the rubbish bin on the taskbar
[07:25] <Courtlandj> tsmith: Then you can just download the nvidia kernel module.
[07:26] <tsmith> msg me
[07:26] <tsmith> all this text is giving me a headache
[07:26] <Bassetts> roryy, how do i use scp?
[07:26] <siriusnova> lol
[07:26] <tsmith> and im about to throw my monitor
[07:26] <lastnode> anyone got ubuntu working on a macbook?
[07:26] <siriusnova> tsmith - its not that hard :P
[07:26] <siriusnova> Courtlandj - you wanna help him? im kinda busy atm
[07:26] <siriusnova> :)
[07:26] <roryy> bingogu: right-click on the panel, and choose 'Add to panel' -- in the dialog that pops up you'll see the 'recycle bin'
[07:26] <Courtlandj> siriusnova: Sure
[07:26] <Chri[s] > Where can i learn about X forwording
[07:27] <roryy> Bassetts: scp thefile user@host:/path/to/destination
[07:27] <kain> can anyone help me add Apple partition map support to my ubuntu kernel?
[07:27] <Bassetts> ok roryy
[07:27] <Stork> is it possible to get lm_sensors working with an nForce4 motherboard on dapper with the 2.6 kernel?
[07:27] <wsjunior> hello guys. im having some troubles with my ati card. it is an ati x200. i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx following the wiki instructions and after reboot the laptop i cant enter in gnome anymore. after typing the login and password at gdm the laptop freezes and i have to restart. i just can use gnome if i comment out the load dri line at xorg.conf. could anybody help me? my card is an VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon X
[07:27] <garryfre> Oh ho!! Now I understand. Other day I was in this game, and I was frustrated with a bug and everyone thought I was snapping at them when I wasn't. Now here, Tmsith is frustrated and I get the same false impression. Now I understand.
[07:27] <roryy> Bassetts: i believe sftp is easier/better, but i usually use scp.  I think you can also use Nautilus for this: try Places -> Connect to server
[07:28] <tsmith> sigh...
[07:28] <Bassetts> scp works, thanks
[07:28] <ic56> kain: are Apple partitions HFS?
[07:28] <tsmith> u know what forget it...
[07:28] <tsmith> i am done
[07:28] <kain> ic56, yes, or HFSplus I think
[07:28] <siriusnova> wsjunior - what kind of card is it again?
[07:28] <Courtlandj> Well sheesh
[07:28] <garryfre> I know ye are not snapping at me. What a strange way the mind works sometimes.
[07:28] <ic56> !exec ircpaste w/irc.ntfs kain 1
[07:28] <ubotu> ic56: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:29] <wsjunior> siriusnova: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[07:29] <Courtlandj> I was trying to help the guy in /msg like he asked, he just didn't respond.
[07:29] <garryfre> Frustration, it can drive anyone nuts.
[07:29] <siriusnova> hmm k gimme a sec
[07:29] <ic56> kain: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[07:29] <Courtlandj> Ya
[07:29] <ic56> kain: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[07:29] <Courtlandj> Installing the nvidia driver could be easier, that's for sure. So I guess I don't blame him.
[07:29] <kain> ic56, thanks a bunch
[07:29] <wsjunior> siriusnova: ok. thank you.
[07:30] <garryfre> Yeah, in breezy, it all just auto installed, it was so nice, even a caveman could do it in his sleep.
[07:30] <erik_> hi all , has anyone got doom 3 running on ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:30] <garryfre> Yeah, I don't blame him either.
[07:30] <_rodney> i blame ubuntu upgrade rush :P
[07:31] <ic56> kain: the HFS side of this script doesn't get exercised as much as the NTFS side, so I'd very much appreciate feedback -- did all go well?  Suggestions for improvement, clarification of instructions, etc.
[07:31] <Bassetts> is it possible to upload more than one file at a time using scp/
[07:31] <Courtlandj> On the other hand, I got Dapper, the nvidia driver, Xgl + compiz up and running on an HDTV as a monitor in one evening.
[07:31] <Courtlandj> Two or three hours max.
[07:32] <garryfre> Wow!
[07:32] <siriusnova> wsjunior - are you using Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:32] <uliba> hi I have a laptop and when it is booting or switching to a terminal (with ctr-alt-1) I get a black screen. X-enviroment works perfect is any boot parameters to stop using the framebuffer or an alternative console resolution?
[07:32] <wsjunior> siriusnova: yes.
[07:32] <siriusnova> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:32] <siriusnova> wsjunior - check that and see if you deviated from anything
[07:33] <walkover> does anyone know a good program to list and manage wireless accespoints?
[07:33] <wsjunior> siriusnova: no i didnt. i read that more than 30 times just today :/
[07:33] <siriusnova> walkover - you mean to coonncet to?
[07:33] <walkover> yeah
[07:33] <kain> ic56, where do I get the file diskmounter?  or do I find it on the archive?
[07:33] <walkover> i mean managing the list :D
[07:33] <siriusnova> walkover - NetworkManager and its applet
[07:33] <walkover> ok thanks
[07:33] <ic56> kain: are you at the URL?
[07:34] <kain> ic56, yes
[07:34] <Courtlandj> uliba: I have never used a laptop on linux before, but the first thing I would try is getting rid of any `vga=791` (or whatever number) from your grub list.
[07:34] <ic56> Kain: that *is* the file.  Just save-as in your browser.
[07:34] <siriusnova> wsjunior hmm okay post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin.com
[07:34] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[07:34] <wsjunior> siriusnova: ok.
[07:34] <z3r0x> does somebody know how to run root-tail on gnome'
[07:34] <aMit--> how can I edit my user's access using sudo?
[07:34] <uliba> Courtlandj, cool i'll check the grub list!
[07:34] <kain> ic56, oh!  just save it as a txt file and all?
[07:34] <uliba> thanks!
[07:34] <iiiears> kain - winmac_fstab.sh is an earlier version does the same thing   seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:34] <ic56> kain: yes
[07:34] <gdb> aMit--: Your user's access?  What are you wanting to change?
[07:35] <DoctorMO> hey all
[07:35] <aMit--> erm I want all the access a user should get when installing a fresh copy of ubuntu
[07:35] <aMit--> for some reason i've lost it all
[07:35] <DoctorMO> I got my mum a new computer (well built)
[07:35] <aMit--> i can sudo now tough
[07:35] <aMit--> though
[07:35] <Kazukisan> Okay currently i have Windows XP On my system whats the best way of not messing up The windows partition and installing linux ?
[07:35] <brosio> anyone known if there is a script or program in apt that automactly download and INSTALL security updates and mail to the localhost that updates ?
[07:35] <ubunt1> i installed 6.06 . i had 3 dvds with repositories (with breezy) .can i use them now?
[07:36] <Courtlandj> Kazukisan: Do you have a second hard drive?
[07:36] <wsjunior> siriusnova: http://pastebin.com/715085
[07:36] <Kazukisan> Courtlandj. unfort not
[07:36] <siriusnova> ubunt1 - if they are from breezy, then no
[07:36] <Courtlandj> Kazukisan: Do you have any free -unpartitioned- space on your hard drive?
[07:36] <DoctorMO> but I forgot that I ordered an ATI 3D card, so now I have all the fun of setting it up... I have followed the ubuntu guide but my results where different.
[07:36] <Toge> hello
[07:36] <gdb> aMit--: System -> Admininstration -> Users and Groups should give you a number of settings to change.  Select your user, click Properties, select the User privleges tab and click everything other than Send and receive faxes and Use tape drives, and that's the default privs that a new *administrative* user has.
[07:36] <wsjunior> siriusnova: im on gnome right now because i commented out the load dri line.
[07:36] <kain> ic56, gives me the message "diskmounter: No new Windows/Mac partitions found"
[07:36] <Toge> i need a program like Alcohol 120%, do you know one?
[07:37] <ubunt1> siriusnova: what is the diference ? i had installed then KDE (for example) . KDE has not changed , can't i install it now with the same dvds?
[07:37] <kain> ic56, *looks down*  I wonder if I have the hard drive plugged in correctly...
[07:37] <aMit--> thats the thing, i cant see that option in the administration menu
[07:37] <gdb> aMit--: (the account that is created for you when you install the system is an administrative user)
[07:37] <Kazukisan> Courtlandj: basicly thats the problem im not sure about, there is only one patition so what i need to figure out how to do is to make the windows one smaller and then put linux on the extra free space i freed up.
[07:37] <Courtlandj> Toge: Are you trying to mount an .iso file without burning it?
[07:37] <siriusnova> ubunt1 - in general for Dapper use dapper repositories because of dependency issues etc..
[07:37] <Toge> Courtlandj, yes
[07:37] <b0rg> anyone got a min to answer a few questions in a pm for me?
[07:37] <siriusnova> wsjunior kk
[07:37] <gdb> aMit--: Then run "gksudo users-admin"
[07:37] <ic56> kain: use the -b option, like the instructions said.  The script is cautious and, unless you explicitly ask it too with -b, it will assume your existing entries in /etc/fstab are to be left alone.
[07:37] <Toge> Courtlandj, but i have a .mds/.mdf too
[07:37] <gdb> aMit--: That runs the utility from the command line as root.
[07:37] <aMit--> ok
[07:37] <Courtlandj> Kazukisan: I see. That's easier said than done! Depending on what files you have on that hard drive, it may not be possible to resize.
[07:38] <ubunt1> siriusnova : ok thx!
[07:38] <ic56> kain: too -> to
[07:38] <aMit--> weird, now it said i'm not in the sudoers file
[07:38] <Kazukisan> Courtlandj: okay thanks i got an idea.
[07:38] <siriusnova> wsjunior - looks like your missing the kernel module
[07:38] <ic56> kain: yeah, if the other drive isn't plugged in, the script won't find it :-)
[07:38] <siriusnova> wsjunior print me the output of "uname -a"
[07:38] <siriusnova> in a terminal
[07:39] <wsjunior> siriusnova: ok
[07:39] <gdb> aMit--: If that's the case, then you need to boot to single user mode, edit /etc/group to add yourself to group 'admin' and then boot back to multiuser.  At the prompt when booting, hit ESC to get to grub and select (system recovery) or whatever the name of the option is with the parenthetical.
[07:39] <wsjunior> siriusnova: Linux wsjunior-laptop 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:39] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need to know about a dvd writer (external) to 100% work with linux?
[07:39] <aMit--> how can I add myself to a group
[07:39] <siriusnova> wsjunior - did you start having problems after the updates?
[07:39] <kain> ic56, I think I need to play with the jumpers again, though I could've sworn I had it right
[07:39] <kain> ic56, brb
[07:39] <wsjunior> siriusnova: no.
[07:39] <ic56> kain: ok
[07:39] <wsjunior> siriusnova: never worked
[07:39] <Courtlandj> Toge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountIso?highlight=%28mount%29%7C%28iso%29
[07:40] <siriusnova> wsjunior - hmm ok
[07:40] <b0rg> anyone got a min to answer a few questions for me? pm me.
[07:40] <Courtlandj> Toge: It's easy to mount an .iso file as if it were in a CDROM/DVDROM drive.
[07:40] <Courtlandj> Toge: No programs like Alcohol are needed
[07:40] <gdb> aMit--: Edit the file with nano (nano /etc/group) and edit the line that says admin to read "admin:x:112:your_user_name" (where you put in your own account name).  Then hit ctrl-x to exit and save the file.  Then at the # prompt (where you'll be again) type "exit" to boot multiuser again.
[07:40] <Healot> mount -t iso9660 -o lo
[07:41] <aMit--> ok thanks brb then
[07:41] <siriusnova> wsjunior - by which process did you install the fglrx driver?
[07:41] <gdb> aMit--: You'll do that editing after booting to single user mode (the system recovery option in GRUB that you get if you hit ESC while the machine is booting, before it gets to the splash screen).
[07:41] <wsjunior> siriusnova: there are other complains at that link about related laptops. -->     *  Ubuntu FGLRX drivers 8.25.18, do not work properly on the dv5029us (Radeon Xpress 200M) as of this writing (5/30/2006). It is needed to revert to 8.24.8 for this specific computer in order to get proper 3D acceleration, and 2D with no tearing off.
[07:41] <wsjunior> [edit] 
[07:41] <wsjunior> siriusnova: following the wiki instructions.
[07:41] <siriusnova> wsjunior - then try he older driver
[07:41] <siriusnova> that might be the problem
[07:41] <siriusnova> ati's linux drivers are notoriously buggy
[07:41] <Sivik> how do i find an eap editor
[07:42] <wsjunior> siriusnova: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25
[07:42] <Toge> Courtlandj, but, is it posibble to mount a mdf image?
[07:42] <Lens> do you guys operate mostly as root or as an account under root?
[07:42] <MetaMorfoziS> So i want to buy Plextor px-750UF, how can i check ubuntu supports it? What parameters i need
[07:42] <wsjunior> siriusnova: how?
[07:42] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[07:43] <iiiears> Native wifi support is comming! Native WiFi support is comming! http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_WiFi_Leaps_Forward - finally
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ is a dvd writer
[07:43] <Courtlandj> Toge: Maybe, maybe not. I know things other than .iso can be mounted, but they require additional steps. I have mounted a .bin/.cue before, and I think I read that Nero images can also be mounted.
[07:43] <alexcamilo> I installed ubuntu 6.06 on a compaq prestario 1700t and i am experiencing random crashes. the mouse refuses to respond and it just sits there.
[07:43] <alexcamilo> any logs that i could look at?
[07:43] <Courtlandj> Toge: Try searching Google for things like "mount iso mdf linux" and maybe someone has accomplished it.
[07:43] <oediv> anyone ever used pptp vpn client? (with pon?)
[07:44] <gdb> Lens: One should not run as the root user by default, and in fact, the root account is disabled in Ubuntu at installation.  You use sudo to access command line root and gksudo to access GUI root.  You can get a root shell with either 'sudo -i' (similar to su -l) or 'sudo -s' (similar to just plain su).
[07:44] <Madpilot> MetaMorfoziS, standard drives & burners should all just work
[07:44] <Courtlandj> Toge: In the case of .bin/.cue and Nero images, I think some additional programs are needed, but nothing you probably can't locate with apt-get install or Synaptic.
[07:44] <Toge> Im going, Courtlandj , but alcohol 120% is needed
[07:44] <theine> @find nadine-j
[07:44] <Lens> gdb: Ok, is it ok to have a seperate root account set up?
[07:44] <wsjunior> siriusnova: how could i get the old driver?
[07:44] <Healot> !info bchunk
[07:44] <wsjunior> siriusnova: to try
[07:44] <ubotu> bchunk: (CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 68 kB
[07:45] <Healot> !info nrg2iso
[07:45] <ubotu> nrg2iso: (Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.4-1.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[07:45] <siriusnova> wsjunior - http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.25.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[07:45] <aMit--> gdb, thanks, that fixed everything!
[07:45] <siriusnova> just find the older driver on the ati website
[07:45] <MetaMorfoziS> Madpilot i want to make sure it 100%, if i buy it and it not supports.......
[07:45] <Courtlandj> Toge: The first thing I searched for gave me: mount image.mdf /wheretomount -o loop=/dev/loop0
[07:45] <siriusnova> and revert back to the x.org driver in part 3
[07:46] <mhb_cze> hello channel
[07:46] <siriusnova> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Revert_to_Xorg_driver
[07:46] <Madpilot> MetaMorfoziS, I'd be very very surprised if a regular burner didn't just work
[07:46] <siriusnova> revert first
[07:46] <siriusnova> then install the 8.25.8 driver
[07:46] <Healot> IDE burners should work
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> not ide , external... because i have laptop
[07:46] <siriusnova> oh and before you install the 8.25.8 after you have reverted to x.org use synaptic to remove the fglrx driver
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Plextor_PX_750UF_DVD_RW_R_DL_DVD_RAM_drive_Hi_Speed_USB_IEEE_1394_FireWire/4852-6407_16-31827931.html?tag=sub
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ this is that i want...
[07:47] <siriusnova> so you dont have any remaining drivers on the system that could cause problems before the install
[07:47] <mihec87> hi ppl could enyone help me..
[07:47] <Toge> but with alcohol is easier, i always used it
[07:47] <siriusnova> mihec87 - with what?
[07:47] <Toge> okay, im going to mount a mdf, good bye Courtlandj and thanks
[07:47] <mihec87> i stuck hier when i install-ing amonrak
[07:47] <CaptChekov> there is a mdf2iso
[07:47] <Courtlandj> Heh. "Some windows program".
[07:47] <alexcamilo> any reasons why gnome would freeze? i ran memtest86 and my memory passed. i checked messages but there isnt any entry in the log at the time the comp crashed.
[07:47] <Lens> I'm trying to have a secure installation: I have an administrator account set up in which I wouldn't use gaim or email... then a 'play' account where I would keep everything personal and use all aliases, but no admin privalegde, and then a work account, same as play except no interaction with personal.  is that good?
[07:48] <mihec87> http://www2.shrani.si/files/screensh653918.png look a picture
[07:48] <issy> ic56, well I don't get it, it's set to Device 1 (Slave), but it's not coming up at all
[07:48] <mhb_cze> Does anyone know if (and where) there is a SVG version of Ubuntu official web image http://www.ubuntu.com/htdocs/uw2/img/headerlogo.png ?
[07:48] <siriusnova> mihec87 - say again i dont understand
[07:48] <Courtlandj> Yeah, Chekov: I was about to say: do 'sudo apt-get install mdf2iso'
[07:48] <Courtlandj> Too bad he left!
[07:48] <jkernsjr> Whats the take on Automatix on Dapper?
[07:49] <siriusnova> gah we need separate ubuntu help channels for video, kernel etc..
[07:49] <mihec87> i have a problem with installing program Amonrak
[07:49] <ardchoille> !automatix
[07:49] <siriusnova> like #ubuntu-video #ubuntu-kernel etc..
[07:49] <siriusnova> everyone in in one channel atm and its kind of a pain to follow convos
[07:49] <siriusnova> heh
[07:49] <siriusnova> mihec87 - what's the problem specifically?
[07:49] <Madpilot> jkernsjr, same as the take on Automatix in earlier versions of Ubuntu: avoid it like the plague
[07:49] <Sashi> umm
[07:50] <mihec87> look these picture http://www2.shrani.si/files/screensh653918.png
[07:50] <Sashi> i got no sound in youtube
[07:50] <Sashi> :P
[07:50] <Sashi> how do i get sound XD
[07:50] <mihec87> it stucks here
[07:50] <jkernsjr> Madpilot: why do you say that? I installed it on one of my machines with no problem..that was breezy though
[07:50] <siriusnova> Sashi - you using firefox?
[07:50] <aMit--> Is there any guide out there to explain how to install NVIDIA drivers?
[07:50] <Sashi> yes
[07:50] <ardchoille> jkernsjr, IMHO, it's much better to learn to do those kind of things yourself.
[07:50] <jkernsjr> Madpilot: I read the same thing here before but wanted to check again
[07:51] <Courtlandj> Sashi: You will probably have no sound at all from anything that uses Macromedia Flash (like YouTube) while in your web browser. I assume you're using Firefox?
[07:51] <aMit--> !nvidia
[07:51] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:51] <Courtlandj> Oh, you already said you were. Duh.
[07:51] <Sashi> lol
[07:51] <jkernsjr> ardchoille: while I could do it myself its a pain and much eaiser to do it with some already made script
[07:51] <jkernsjr> why reinvent the wheel?
[07:51] <Madpilot> jkernsjr, Ax is still a mess, and still does things that better programmers/scripters consider dangerous in how it deals w/ your system
[07:51] <Sashi> so?
[07:51] <jkernsjr> Madpilot: thanks
[07:51] <Courtlandj> Sashi: There is a way to fix it, but it's slightly complicated.  =)
[07:51] <siriusnova> Sashi - there is a fix
[07:52] <siriusnova> its not really complicated
[07:52] <siriusnova> heh
[07:52] <siriusnova> it involves editing a text file and adding 1 line of text
[07:52] <jkernsjr> Madpilot: whats the take on easyubuntu?
[07:52] <ardchoille> Madpilot, Good explanation.. I'll have to remember that one :)
[07:52] <Sashi> lol
[07:52] <Sashi> and that line and text file is? XD
[07:52] <brosio> how could i set the .bash_history  to 10M ?
[07:52] <Courtlandj> Yeah? When I fixed it I had to shuffle some files and chmopd something...
[07:52] <siriusnova> Sashi - are you comfortable with a terminal?
[07:52] <Courtlandj> If there's an easier way, I'm all ears too.
[07:53] <Madpilot> jkernsjr, better & saner - but not finished yet. No idea if there's a Dapper version for eu yet
[07:53] <Sashi> yes
[07:53] <siriusnova> ok then "sudo aptitude install alsa-oss"
[07:53] <jkernsjr> Madpilot: If its so bad, why doesnt someone write something better?
[07:53] <wsjunior> siriusnova: im trying
[07:53] <earsnot> ran nessus , and this is the ouput. http://pastebin.com/715114. should I be concerned with the things outlined here, and more importantly should I specify other options while scanning.
[07:53] <earsnot> any help would be appreciated
[07:53] <Madpilot> jkernsjr, because the best way to install all that stuff is still manually?
[07:53] <BHSPitMonkey> is it reasonable to expect ubuntu (livecd) to freak out when there's two gfx adapters installed (one onboard, one AGP)
[07:53] <jkernsjr> are people too afaraid of the fact that this stuff isnt free?
[07:53] <witless> is there a definitive guide for xgl on dapper?
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> anbyody know a page about supported dvd writers?
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> witless: #ubuntu-xlg
[07:53] <mjr> MetaMorfoziS, pretty much any
[07:53] <MetaMorfoziS> witless: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:53] <zxc> Anyone know an alternative to MS Paint (or something to do Pixel Art with) on Ubuntu?
[07:53] <witless> thx
[07:53] <siriusnova> then after alsa-oss is installed
[07:54] <baldizzle> hey Im new to ubuntu and I wanted to figure out how to upgrade my breezy badger 5.10 to the latest version
[07:54] <siriusnova> sudo nano /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[07:54] <jkernsjr> Madpilot: can you point me to some info on getting flash/mplayer/mp3/etc stuff installed manually..directions?
[07:54] <Sashi> and
[07:54] <witless> MetaMorfoziS: that channel is empty
[07:54] <siriusnova> and change change Firefox_dsp=none to "aoss"
[07:54] <siriusnova> and restart firefox
[07:54] <siriusnova> there
[07:54] <siriusnova> done :P
[07:54] <Madpilot> jkernsjr, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:54] <Sashi> :P tjx
[07:54] <Sashi> thx*
[07:54] <MetaMorfoziS> not xlg xgl
[07:54] <ardchoille> jkernsjr, most of that stuff is in the wiki, iirc.
[07:54] <siriusnova> np
[07:54] <baldizzle> can anyone help me?
[07:55] <Courtlandj> Wow, that's waaaaaaayyyyy easier than the stupid way I was doing it.
[07:55] <Courtlandj> =)
[07:55] <siriusnova> baldizzle - with what? state your problem and we will try
[07:55] <siriusnova> hehe :)
[07:55] <jkernsjr> baldizzle: hang on..ill have you a link in a sec
[07:55] <earsnot> baldizzle it should be sudo update-manager -d
[07:55] <baldizzle> I want to update to the latest version of ubuntu I have badger right now and update manager wont do it for me
[07:55] <mhb_cze> oh well ... I guess nobody heard me in this chaos :o)
[07:55] <baldizzle> haha I tried that
[07:55] <baldizzle> it just says no updates
[07:56] <paxl> is there a way from ubuntu live cd to make it install himself with the network ? [ since it alwasy crash at 71% of installation .. ] 
[07:56] <b0rg> anyone got a min to answer a few questions for me? pm me.
[07:56] <earsnot> repositories maybe?
[07:56] <siriusnova> b0rg - just post in channel
[07:56] <siriusnova> we will try
[07:56] <siriusnova> as you can see its quite busy hehe
[07:56] <siriusnova> earsnot - yeah he probably needs to reset his repositories to dapper ones i think
[07:56] <sloncho> hi. running DD on smp machine. I have installed linux-686-smp package, reboot, and now I see in /proc/cpuinfo 2 processors, i.e. the smp kernel is running. but uname -r displays only 2.6.15-25-686, instead of 2.6.15-25-686-smp. What is wrong?
[07:56] <Zaph> hi everyone.
[07:56] <Zaph> I need help..
[07:57] <Sivik> Zaph: just ask your question, not saying you need help
[07:57] <siriusnova> sloncho - nothing
[07:57] <siriusnova> there
[07:57] <Zaph> I am planning on moving completely over to Ubuntu from Windows, but I don;t know how to set up my Vodacom 3g card, and my Belkin 802.11b card
[07:57] <siriusnova> NEXT
[07:57] <siriusnova> hehe
[07:57] <siriusnova> :)
[07:57] <Zaph> I am using a laptop
[07:57] <mihec87> ok i have a problem with installing Amonrak i go to add/remove aplications and then look for a program and double clicket and than start downloading 16 files
[07:57] <baldizzle> how do I change my repositories?
[07:57] <Sivik> Zaph: did you search those on google
[07:57] <siriusnova> mihec87 - thats normal
[07:57] <jkernsjr> baldizzle: didnt realize you were on badger
[07:57] <Zaph> I did, and I didn't really find anything useful
[07:57] <earsnot> sudo getit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <siriusnova> amarok needs to install different packages with it
[07:57] <Sivik> Zaph, such as Vodacom 3g ubuntu and belkin 802.11b ubuntu
[07:58] <earsnot> *gedit
[07:58] <baldizzle> yes Im using breezy badger
[07:58] <biaf> hi. my main xp drive gives me error at boot 'GRUB Hard Disk Error' any idea how to get this back to boot into xp again
[07:58] <Sivik> Zaph: go search in the www.ubuntu-forums.org
[07:58] <siriusnova> it wont install JUST amarok
[07:58] <Zaph> not like that.. lemme try that...
[07:58] <siriusnova> it will install amarok + libraries + codecs etc..
[07:58] <sloncho> siriusnova: reading some tutorial for mithtv for breeze, the example they give is, that uname -r should return -smp.
[07:58] <baldizzle> it looks like my only repository is the ubuntu cd
[07:58] <earsnot> siriusnova lol it sounds like you were expecting slackware
[07:58] <Sivik> baldizzle, you can edit your repos
[07:58] <Sivik> !tell baldizzle about repos
[07:58] <Sivik> baldizzle, check your pm
[07:58] <mihec87> yes i know but when finish downloading yust stopped  and saying downloading file 16/16
[07:58] <sloncho> siriusnova: so there is some change for DD?
[07:59] <siriusnova> sloncho hmm but you see 2 cpus recognized right?
[07:59] <Courtlandj> sloncho: Ubuntu kernels do have SMP support even though they don't necessarily have -smp at the end of their version name.
[07:59] <baldizzle> thank you sivik
[07:59] <quakie> baldizzle:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades?action=show&redirect=DapperUpgradeNotes
[07:59] <siriusnova> if you installed the smp kernel and booted the smp kernel you should get the smp kernel
[07:59] <Bassetts> how can i transfer a whole file using sftp?
[07:59] <siriusnova> uname -a is probably being retarded
[07:59] <Zaph> cool Sivik... Lemme check there, and If I dont; come right, I'll cone back here.
[07:59] <Zaph> cheers
[07:59] <mihec87> but the files are downloaded all 16 files 100%
[07:59] <Bassetts> how can i transfer a whole folder* using sftp?
[07:59] <earsnot> siriusnova tell me what you think of this http://pastebin.com/715114
[07:59] <sloncho> Courtlandj: this is not exactly true. after the initial install it showed only one CPU. I needed to instal linux-686-smp package in order to get smp
[08:00] <dooglus> Bassetts: use the -r flag
[08:00] <Bassetts> thanks dooglus
[08:00] <Courtlandj> sloncho: true
[08:00] <siriusnova> earsnot - im not a nessus expert
[08:00] <siriusnova> mihec87 - bad connection maybe?
[08:00] <pestilence> i am trying to run find_orphans.php in gallery1, and it tries to download instead of executing.  any ideas?
[08:01] <Chri[s] > k3b burns slow
[08:01] <Chri[s] > 47%
[08:01] <earsnot> siriusnova thanks anyway
[08:01] <pestilence> everything else works fine as far as php goes
[08:01] <sloncho> siriusnova: yes, I see 2 CPU. but now I need kernel-sources package and headers, and I do not know what to use. in that  tutorial the use -smp headers, but because their uname -r shows smp. now what?
[08:01] <aMit--> Why can't I change my resolution for more then 1024*700 and the refresh rate to more then 60?
[08:01] <siriusnova> mihec87 - click the "show process of single files"
[08:01] <Bassetts> dooglus "invalid flag -r"
[08:01] <apokryphos> aMit--: have you checked the FAQ?
[08:01] <siriusnova> mihec87 - it should tell you if a package isnt being installed etc..
[08:01] <aMit--> nop
[08:01] <siriusnova> or where its hanging
[08:01] <aMit--> will do
[08:01] <siriusnova> sloncho - use smp headers then
[08:01] <apokryphos> :)
[08:02] <earsnot> anyone here a nessus guru ? "tackle" this http://pastebin.com/715114
[08:02] <jkernsjr> baldizzle: check this out http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[08:02] <Courtlandj> If you ask for smp headers, I think it will grab the other headers it needs as well.
[08:02] <dooglus> Bassetts: I guess I'm thinking of scp, not sftp, sorry.
[08:02] <siriusnova> Courtlandj - it should
[08:02] <Bassetts> works in scp thanks =)
[08:02] <Healot> earsnot: the host is pretty safe
[08:03] <earsnot> Hwalot I didnt enable any of the slackware checks or any other distro stuff. should I have?
[08:03] <Toge> hi again
[08:03] <MetaMorfoziS> HAve anybody any experience about plextor px-750uf? [ http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/plextor-px750uf.html ] 
[08:03] <Courtlandj> Hey, I have a question. Something I was never satisfied with back in my Debian days (am I an Ubuntu convert? hehe.) was a good ftp server. Are there any ftp servers that are fairly easy to setup? I don't need uber security...
[08:03] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to know it supported or not:)
[08:03] <rverrips> Hiyee - Simple question (Sorry) but how do I "drag" application launcher icons from the menu onto the panel in XFCE / Xubuntu?
[08:03] <Toge> do you know a program to whatch TV? I have a pci
[08:03] <dooglus> rverrips: you don't, I don't think
[08:04] <siriusnova> Courtlandj - bftpd, proftpd ?
[08:04] <bcl> Courtlandj, Its not distribution spcific, but I have always used ncftpd from Mike Gleason.
[08:04] <siriusnova> or just plain ftpd :P
[08:04] <siriusnova> or ncftpd
[08:04] <siriusnova> heh
[08:04] <rverrips> Toga: Thanks, so how do I get app's on the panel?
[08:04] <bcl> Courtlandj, its free for a 50 user version.
[08:04] <bcl> Courtlandj, oops, make that 5 I think.
[08:04] <Healot> earsnot: those open ports have risk factor at most low... nothing to worry
[08:04] <dooglus> rverrips: you add a 'launcher' and specify the program and icon yourself
[08:04] <Courtlandj> siriusnova: (and bcl) I had tried scftpd I think, and it was so secure I had problems setting it up.  =p
[08:04] <biaf> anyone know how to make 'grub hardisk error' go back to booting windows xp, rewrite boot sector? with xp?
[08:05] <Courtlandj> Thanks for the tip, I will check 'em out.
[08:05] <earsnot> Healot should I specify any other options when scanning
[08:05] <Healot> btw, i believe most ports are for localhost use, except that SMTP service running...
[08:05] <bcl> Courtlandj, there are good reasons for that :) ftp can be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands :)
[08:05] <DoctorMO> damn I've added the non-free source to my sources.list but when I do an update it says Ign
[08:05] <dooglus> biaf: something like "fdisk/mbr" I think
[08:05] <DoctorMO> can anyone help?
[08:05] <biaf> i'll try that thx
[08:05] <Healot> earsnot: if it serves your purpose
[08:05] <Courtlandj> bcl: Yeah, I know!   =)
[08:06] <Dreamglider> MetaMorfoziS, is's a external drive if you hook it up to usb it shuold work fine
[08:06] <earsnot> xlol
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> 100%?
[08:06] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[08:07] <paxl> is ther a way to write a cd from ubuntu live cd ?
[08:07] <Dreamglider> MetaMorfoziS, i would think so yes. but i cant be 100%
[08:07] <Bassetts> when i try to run a .sh file using sudo i get bash: run.sh: command not found
[08:07] <ubuntujeroen> Hello all
[08:07] <earsnot> healot not to badger you, but how to I turn off sntp
[08:07] <ubuntujeroen> whats up
[08:07] <Kirill> Could anyone help me, I'm trying to boot up the Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Live CD to install it, but it hangs on Configuring Some Drivers and stays like that. Is the problem because of my motherboard or what? Please help.
[08:07] <siriusnova> Bassets - what are you typing to run the sh file
[08:07] <MetaMorfoziS> ok Dreamglider i go back google, but thx
[08:07] <dooglus> Bassetts: "sudo bash /path/to/run.sh"
[08:07] <Dreamglider> paxl, yea with k3b
[08:07] <Healot> earsnot: find out what application serves the service
[08:08] <siriusnova> or just "./sh run.sh" in the directory of the file
[08:08] <siriusnova> :P
[08:08] <edlang> I'm having difficulty building wine from source on AMD64, using Ubuntu 6.06.
[08:08] <earsnot> Healot il look into it thanks
[08:08] <Bassetts> dooglus bash: /home/jason/logobot/run.sh: No such file or directory
[08:08] <Kirill> Could anyone help me, I'm trying to boot up the Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Live CD to install it, but it hangs on Configuring Some Drivers and stays like that. Is the problem because of my motherboard or what? Please help.
[08:08] <edlang> I get the error, ../../include/winnls.h:758: warning: __stdcall__ attribute ignored
[08:08] <Dreamglider> MetaMorfoziS, i have never had any trouble getting USB drives to work in Ubuntu
[08:08] <dooglus> siriusnova: he wants to run it as root
[08:08] <dooglus> Bassetts: you have to use the correct path to the file
[08:08] <Healot> Exim >> earsnot...
[08:08] <siriusnova> dooglus - ok then "sudo sh ./run.sh "
[08:08] <Bassetts> sure do
[08:08] <siriusnova> heh
[08:08] <edlang> And similar. Has anyone else experienced that?
[08:08] <earsnot> turn off exim... how?
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> detto... but it's too expensive for i buy and it not supported...:D
[08:08] <dooglus> siriusnova: right.  that's what I said
[08:09] <Dreamglider> MetaMorfoziS, they just work (for me atleast, and i'm a newbie when it comes to linux)
[08:09] <siriusnova> dooglus - oh ok sorry hehe im split between 3 channels atm
[08:09] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[08:09] <Celeste> hi
[08:09] <siriusnova> edlang - sorry maybe ask in #wine ?
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> detto:D
[08:09] <Dreamglider> MetaMorfoziS,  yea i agree  better safe then sorry
[08:09] <earsnot> healot id use bum right?
[08:09] <edlang> On which IRC network?
[08:09] <Healot> you may either remove exim or turn the service off...
[08:09] <Celeste> what is the right number in cfdisk for a NTFS partitin which can be used for Windows XP please_
[08:09] <biaf> dooglus?
[08:09] <Frogzoo> edlang: #winehq
[08:09] <Celeste> I just need to partition it for 2 systems
[08:09] <dooglus> biaf: ?
[08:09] <siriusnova> edlang - should be a wine channel here, check the winehq.com web page
[08:09] <earsnot> healot thanks
[08:10] <biaf> thx m8, you saved be about 6years of data
[08:10] <dooglus> biaf: how?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> and, it's not a linxu q... 2mb ofbuilt in memory is might or little?
[08:10] <Healot> earsnot: do you install exim on purpose or it comes with the install?
[08:10] <biaf> i would of  just give up and formated if i did not try the multi boot record replacement
[08:10] <Unintentional> hey, I want to make a script that automatically e-mails me log files after a program executes.  what program would be good for that?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> in an external dvd writer [for others] 
[08:11] <earsnot> Healot I dont remember installing exim
[08:11] <biaf> fixmbr its called in XP,
[08:11] <dooglus> biaf: how did you fix it?  you couldn't boot into windows could you?
[08:11] <earsnot> perhaps it was to satisfy a dependency
[08:11] <zxc> Does Ubuntu have an MS Paint alternative?
[08:11] <Healot> earsnot: maybe via install
[08:11] <siriusnova> zxc - TuxPaint ?
[08:11] <Healot> earsnot: Debian?
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> zxc: kpaintbrush
[08:11] <siriusnova> or Gimp ?
[08:11] <Unintentional> zxc: gimp
[08:11] <siriusnova> heh
[08:12] <zxc> Gimp is more PS alternative...Lemme try kpaintbrush and TuxPaint
[08:12] <earsnot> ubuntu for me
[08:12] <ic56> Celeste: you mean the partition type?  fdisk's help says 7, 86, and 87 are for NTFS.  Dunno which is appropriate for what circumstances.
[08:12] <Healot> earsnot: breezy? or which ubuntu release?
[08:12] <earsnot> dapper
[08:12] <Healot> NTFS is 0x7
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> zxc: not kpaintbrush
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> kolourpaint
[08:13] <ic56> Celeste: there ya go. Healot says to use 7.
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> is it same with paint
[08:13] <Celeste> Healot and ic56    0x7  does not exist
[08:14] <Celeste> and 07 is HPFS too
[08:14] <biaf> dooglus : i was installing, server ubuntu into totaly different drive but GRUB started getting fancy in the middle of install saying that i must place boot sector on main master hd0 etc or floppy, i use f8 and let my bios do the booting option, so i had to go with it, and it just messed up my xp boot sector , fixmbr sorted it out
[08:14] <Celeste> is it maybe 86 or 87 ?
[08:14] <Celeste> I paste it to pastebin
[08:14] <ic56> Celeste: 0x7 is just another notation for 7.
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> alright, anyone have any clue what might be causing GDM to not log in, I'm still stuck unable to figure it out.  any window manager (xfce, kde, icewm, etc.) causes GDM to pop up the window saying it couldn't start it, and it starts a term.
[08:14] <Jowi> hello. friend of mine, using dapper, is thinking about a Turion 64 (mt-32 or similar) with onboard ati xpress 200. anyone is using ubuntu on a board/cpu like that? any issues?
[08:15] <ic56> Celeste: yes, 7 is also used for HPFS.  The numbers aren't always unique.
[08:15] <Celeste> http://sial.org/pbot/17802
[08:15] <dooglus> Samus_Aran: can you get into X using startx?
[08:15] <Celeste> ok so I will use  7
[08:15] <Celeste> thank you ic56 and Healot
[08:15] <Celeste> I should make it primary and bootable, isnt it_
[08:16] <iiiears> biaf - Use the direct to disk command to backup your boot sector.  "dd if-/path of=/path -bs 1 -count 1"
[08:16] <Celeste> what may I use for data exchange between linux and windows?
[08:16] <ic56> Celeste: you're welcome.  The other thing you can try to reassure yourself, is to see what values are present on any existing parittions you have that were created by windows itself.
[08:16] <Celeste> what number would be good?
[08:16] <Healot> FAT32/16
[08:16] <Healot> 0xb
[08:16] <Celeste> ic56 the HD is emptz
[08:16] <valehru> Is there a guide on how I can install 32 bit firefox in dapper x64?
[08:16] <inono> How do I get gtk-doc ?
[08:16] <Celeste> thank you healot!
[08:16] <valehru> need to use flash badly
[08:16] <dooglus> Celeste: 1 machine dual-booting?  Or 2 machines on a network?
[08:16] <Healot> !flash
[08:16] <inono> I cannot find gtk-doc in synaptic
[08:16] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:16] <Celeste> dooglus: 1 machine with 2 boot options
[08:17] <Celeste> linux and win
[08:17] <Celeste> I need ntfs and linux
[08:17] <Celeste> win plus ubuntu
[08:17] <dooglus> Celeste: linux can read NTFS, both can read and write FAT32
[08:17] <inono> Celestar, captive ntfs
[08:17] <dooglus> Celeste: windows can read ext3 with the right software installed
[08:17] <inono> only if its not on a dynamic drive
[08:17] <Samus_Aran> and from the emergency term that pops up, you can start the window manager/desktop environment fine.  ~/.xsession-errors isn't showing much: http://rafb.net/paste/results/lAWuUv79.html
[08:17] <Celeste> hum .... would be better when both can write
[08:17] <zxc> Kolourpaint is adequate...thanks MetaMorfozis :)
[08:17] <Weirdbro> I think I've found a minor bug in the Glade2 Interface Designer. Can someon help me confirm?
[08:18] <ic56> Celeste: you could look at the partition types on a different machine.  As for sharing, you need FAT32: 0xb ("0B" in your help message)
[08:18] <Celeste> how many primarz partitions can exist_
[08:18] <dooglus> captive ntfs hasn't been maintained for years, has it?
[08:18] <sewoyl> hi! I am trying to install 6.06 and the graphical installer fails. Any way to use the 'old' installer ? (and it was trying to format my root partition as ntfs, too)
[08:18] <Jowi> Celestar: 4
[08:18] <Samus_Aran> dooglus: I assume so, as I can run KDE or ICEWM or whatever from the term, which would be the same as sticking it in ~/.xinitrc
[08:18] <Celeste> perfect
[08:18] <Samus_Aran> the problem is somewhere in GDM's method of starting it up
[08:18] <Healot> that's on a basic MBR disk
[08:18] <ic56> Celeste: up to 4 primary partitions per harddisk
[08:18] <dooglus> Samus_Aran: strange
[08:18] <iiiears> Celeste - ntfs is copyrighted and closed source so ntfsprogs is another option. - back up your data before relying on either ntfs captive or ntfsprogs
[08:19] <Jowi> Celeste: if you need more than 4 you can add an extended partition to put them in
[08:19] <Celeste> so I will create 1) NTFS primary bootable  2)  FAT32  primary   and   3)  ext3
[08:19] <Celeste> ext3 also bootable and primarz
[08:19] <Samus_Aran> I will go try via xinit
[08:19] <Weirdbro> In the accessibility options in the property editor, the final option name is partially hidden
[08:19] <Celeste> should be enough also when I could have made more partitions
[08:19] <ic56> Celeste: NTFS + FAT32 + ext3 plan = good.
[08:19] <eclypse> is anyone here actually willing to help me with a XGL problem?
[08:19] <Weirdbro> can someone if that happens for them too?
[08:19] <sewoyl> anybody? please?
[08:19] <iiiears> Celeste - dooglus has the best idea use FAT32
[08:19] <Jowi> Celeste: not enough if you want to add more. the SWAP will also take up a partition
[08:20] <Celeste> hum
[08:20] <iiiears> for shared files
[08:20] <Celeste> can I tell ubuntu while installing to create all partitions itself within the free space_
[08:20] <Celeste> ?
[08:20] <Samus_Aran> dooglus: okay now I got some error messages: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting., xinit:  Server error., Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[08:20] <eclypse> is anyone here actually willing to help me with a XGL problem?
[08:20] <Celeste> so there will be 2 partitions for windows  plus free space
[08:20] <dooglus> Samus_Aran: "sudo startx" I guess?
[08:20] <Celeste> I want ubuntu to decide what partitoons are needed itself in the free space
[08:20] <Celeste> will this work?
[08:21] <iiiears> Celeste - leave some extra space to create a FAT32 parttion.
[08:21] <eclypse> because after various errors with the xorg.conf I still get the infamous X server is not properly configured.
[08:21] <eclypse> the main error it showed me was the 'No Screens Found' error
[08:21] <edlang> #winehq seems pretty dead.
[08:21] <eclypse> how would I fix this?
[08:21] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Try #ubuntu-xgl
[08:21] <ic56> Celeste: yes: ubuntu can decide but, if it may decide somethign you don't like.  Here's what you need to know:
[08:21] <eclypse> ok
[08:21] <Celeste> iiiears: I will create the NTFS and FAT32 partition before installing anything
[08:21] <Courtlandj> Hopefully they have some expertss
[08:21] <iiiears> Celeste - Sounds good.
[08:22] <sewoyl> please It can't be that hard : how do I install dapper using the old text basedinstaller ?????
[08:22] <Samus_Aran> dooglus: hm, if I even run X just as "X" it tells me "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[08:22] <Samus_Aran> dooglus: now I have something to Google for, heh.
[08:22] <Dreamglider> sewoyl, you need to download the Alternative CD
[08:22] <dooglus> Samus_Aran: there's a configuration option somewhere which says whether users can run X
[08:22] <eclypse> Courtlandj nobody seems to be answering in that channel dude...
[08:22] <sewoyl> Dreamglider, ah thanks. Is is an official image?
[08:23] <Dreamglider> sewoyl, yes it is
[08:23] <eclypse> theres only like 45 people
[08:23] <iiiears> sewoyl - Some here have mentioned an "Alternate" install disk that uses the text based mode. - Does anyone have the link?
[08:23] <Celeste> ic56 are you typing a message for me?
[08:23] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Hmm. Well, I am no expert, although I am running Xgl right now.
[08:23] <sewoyl> Dreamglider, would it happen to be the 'server install' ???
[08:23] <ic56> Celeste: there can be 4 primary partitions per disk.  What this means is that the first sector on a disk is formatted to contain 4 fields, each one describing a partiti.  If you need more than 4 partitinos, then you use one of these slots as an "extended partition".  All that means is that instead of that slot containing the actual partition, it contains a redirection to another sector.  That other sector
[08:23] <eclypse> well your lucky...
[08:23] <eclypse> did you ever run into a kinda blue-screen error?
[08:23] <Dreamglider> sewoyl, No it's the Desktop
[08:23] <Weirdbro> In the accessibility options in the property editor in Glade, the final option name is partially hidden. This happen for anyone else?
[08:24] <Jowi> Celeste: here's a tip: prim 1 NTFS, prim 2 fat32, prim 3 ext3, prim 4 extended. in the extended you can put the swap, /home and any other partitions you want to add later.
[08:24] <sewoyl> Dreamglider, iiiears, thanks guys gonna try to find it (btw it's too bad the delay-causing installer does not work :( )
[08:24] <Celeste> Jowi: and whats about the swap?
[08:24] <Courtlandj> eclypse: I had a few hiccups here and there, yes. But I followed the howto on compiz.net ( http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=652 ) and it worked for me.
[08:24] <ic56> Celeste: ...contains the details for a regular partition and yet another redirection.  Thus, you can effectively have as many partitions as you want.  These "redirected" partitions are called logical parititions.
[08:24] <Jowi> Celeste: you can put the swap in the extended partition
[08:25] <eclypse> well
[08:25] <eclypse> I still get a fatal error on it
[08:25] <inono> How do I find the gtk-doc package ?
[08:25] <Celeste> ic56 I thank you very much fot your help!
[08:25] <Dreamglider> sewoyl, http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[08:25] <Courtlandj> eclypse: You'd have to be more specific as to where you're getting the error, where in the install process you were...
[08:25] <eclypse> like... first off it starts with attempting to show the welcome screen
[08:25] <eclypse> well
[08:25] <eclypse> I had it all installed an shit
[08:25] <eclypse> it was on the restart
[08:25] <Celeste> thank you Jowi and Healot too
[08:25] <eclypse> that it screwed up
[08:25] <edlang> Is there an amd64 Ubuntu channel?
[08:25] <Celeste> I will go for it now
[08:25] <Celeste> thank you
[08:25] <edlang> #winehq is proving useless.
[08:25] <Dreamglider> look for alternate images
[08:25] <sewoyl> Dreamglider, thanks I found it . Had no idea that's what I was looking for.
[08:25] <Celeste> see you later after installing
[08:25] <Samus_Aran> could one of you log into a real TTY and tell me what device "tty" displays for you ?
[08:25] <brosio>  how could i store the output of whoami into a bash variable ?
[08:25] <Courtlandj> eclypse: So you had Xgl + compiz running, wobbly windows and all, but upon reboot it failed?
[08:25] <eclypse> nope
[08:26] <eclypse> I didn't
[08:26] <Courtlandj> Oh
[08:26] <ic56> Celeste: linux doesn't care whether you put its stuff in a logical or a primary partition, but it's always wise to have the boot partition of each OS be on a primary partition -- just so you can easily find it if your disk becomes corrupt and you have to go looking for things.  Also, some OSs have trouble booting from logical partitions.
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> I am getting pseudo terminals, and I think that is why X isn't running properly, as only console users have permission to run X
[08:26] <ic56> Celeste: good luck!
[08:26] <biaf> If i want to install the xbuntu gui onto my ubuntu server what would be the best apt-get file to aquire
[08:26] <eclypse> it gives me the grey background type screen, (primarly composed of clusters of white and black pixles) and it showed the loading icon
[08:26] <eclypse> then after an extended ammount of time
[08:26] <eclypse> it gave me a errror messagfe
[08:26] <Courtlandj> Right, right.
[08:26] <gnubie> using dapper-gnome,  how do I get computer and home folder on my desktop?  I had a link, but it exceeded it's bw for this month.
[08:26] <Courtlandj> And it asks you if you want to diagnose the problem?
[08:27] <FX2> need help
[08:27] <Dreamglider> sewoyl, i home the text installer will be included on the next release
[08:27] <Jowi> eclypse: did you do the server or desktop install?
[08:27] <Dreamglider> hope**
[08:27] <eclypse> for XGL?
[08:27] <Jowi> ah
[08:27] <eclypse> I did the apt-get install xserver-XGL
[08:27] <lanlan> hi, can anyone help me with a beagle prob?
[08:27] <eclypse> and then all required files
[08:27] <Courtlandj> FX2: Ask your question, someone will help.  =)
[08:27] <Jowi> sorry eclypse didn't realise you were trying out XGL
[08:28] <eclypse> yeah....
[08:28] <eclypse> I'm trying to get it to work
[08:28] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Do you have an NVidia graphics card?
[08:28] <eclypse> sadly no...
[08:28] <eclypse> I wish I did tho
[08:28] <sewoyl> so dumb question, what  XGL?
[08:28] <Dreamglider> lOOOl http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/06/dietscare.html
[08:28] <eclypse> they work sooo well with Linux...
[08:28] <Courtlandj> eclypse: ATI?
[08:28] <sewoyl> what is* XGL
[08:28] <eclypse> yes
[08:28] <lanlan> running 6.06 LTS over here, and my beagle only seems to index konq
[08:28] <eclypse> my accelleration is working perfectly.
[08:28] <eclypse> games run perfectly
[08:28] <NoUse> !xgl
[08:28] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:28] <eclypse> I'm using the fglrx driver.
[08:28] <FX2> when am installing ubuntu 5.10 am it keeps blokking when it comes to Starting hotplug subsystem
[08:28] <Jowi> eclypse: have you tried in #ubuntu-xgl?
[08:28] <eclypse> yes
[08:28] <Courtlandj> eclypse: I have never used an ATI card under linux, so I am afraid I will be no help there. I know that some other people have had problems with fglrx...
[08:28] <eclypse> nobody answered me
[08:29] <eclypse> everyone in there is like afk
[08:29] <NoUse> sewoyl check out the videos ubotu posted
[08:29] <rej-> xgl, acceleration works perfectly, but opengl direct rendering doesnt
[08:29] <rej-> :(
[08:29] <sewoyl> NoUse thanks
[08:29] <eclypse> well
[08:29] <eclypse> FGLRX has worked relativly well for me
[08:29] <FX2> wat should i do???
[08:29] <eclypse> its merely the error message I get...
[08:29] <Courtlandj> eclypse: If you get that blue screen, what does it tell you when you when you diagnose the problem?
[08:29] <eclypse> it tells me no screens found
[08:29] <biaf> whats command to get the xbuntu gui dnloaded to ise with my server build
[08:29] <eclypse> hold on I'll get you the exact message *boots up laptop*
[08:30] <eclypse> ok
[08:30] <eclypse> well first off
[08:31] <eclypse> it tells me 'failed to start xserver...blah blah blah
[08:31] <FX2> wat should i do???
[08:31] <FX2> when am installing ubuntu 5.10 am it keeps blokking when it comes to Starting hotplug subsystem
[08:31] <Tommy2k4> is it possibel to make the k-menu popup when i press the win key
[08:31] <eclypse> then it asks me if I want to diagnose the problem
[08:31] <Jowi> eclypse: can this be it? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/42527
[08:31] <eclypse> so I hit ok
[08:31] <NoUse> FX2 this is when the install CD is running or after you have finished the install?
[08:31] <eclypse> ok well now its telling me 'Unrecognized Option: vt7
[08:31] <FX2> no during the installation
[08:32] <eclypse> wtf is this now?!
[08:32] <eclypse> lol
[08:32] <a_l_e_> i've read that dapper supports booting on an external disk (usb in my case) out of the box... can anybody confirm this?
[08:32] <FX2> it gives me the same prob with the live cd
[08:32] <eclypse> its like new things are popping up
[08:32] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Never heard of vt7..?
[08:32] <mirak> my hard drive was on sleep during reboot, and it seems linux didn't created a device for it
[08:32] <sewoyl> a_l_e_ : isn't that depending on the BIOS more than the OS?
[08:32] <mirak> is there a way to probe again ide ports ?
[08:32] <Courtlandj> a_l_e_: Depends on the motherboard
[08:32] <eclypse> nope.
[08:32] <Jowi> vt7 could be virtual terminal 7. the one that Xorg usually use.
[08:32] <eclypse> also, that bug report doesn't seem to have a solution...
[08:33] <FX2> NoUse: no during the installation
[08:33] <Courtlandj> That's true
[08:33] <Jowi> (ctrl-alt-f7)
[08:33] <FX2> NoUse it gives me the same prob with the live cd
[08:33] <eclypse> this is a laptop so I'm definately not going below my native resolution
[08:33] <eclypse> which is 1280x800
[08:33] <a_l_e_> sewoyl Courtlandj: i got the computer to boot on usb, but then i get an error "VFS: Cannot open root device "hd4" or unknown-block(0,0)"
[08:34] <sewoyl> I'm glad to see that XGL will make people think twice beforebuying vista for the cool looking (?) effects
[08:34] <a_l_e_> "please append a correct "boot=" boot option
[08:34] <Courtlandj> sewoyl: Very true!  =)
[08:34] <NoUse> FX2 what kind of computer?
[08:34] <eclypse> courtlandj what is it?
[08:34] <RezDawg> Can anyone help me please, Im running Breezy badger, I used to have a nvidia card and now I installed an ATI card and xserver isnt working and when I boot and get comandline only. Im not to great with linux so I dont know how to get the GUI up and running
[08:34] <sewoyl> a_l_e_ sorry I really dontknow
[08:34] <a_l_e_> sewoyl: np
[08:34] <Jowi> a_l_e_: you are probably not having the correct entry in grub
[08:35] <FX2> NoUse: its an asus p5rd1-v deluxe
[08:35] <NoUse> FX2 have you tried hitting Ctrl+C has the hotplug line displays?
[08:35] <FX2> NoUse socket lga 775
[08:35] <eclypse> rezdawk try startx
[08:35] <eclypse> rezdawg*
[08:35] <Courtlandj> eclypse: If it's not finding any screens, then my first guess is something wrong in xorg.conf or with the driver.
[08:35] <sewoyl> aaaaargh my download stalled ...
[08:35] <FX2> NoUse yep tried it. nothing happanes
[08:36] <eclypse> I would assume its in my xorg.conf
[08:36] <eclypse> what shall I do?
[08:36] <Courtlandj> eclypse: But if you've had the driver working before, then I am not sure what it could be in xorg.conf
[08:36] <Jowi> a_l_e_: for example. "root (hd0,4)" should have the corresponding "root=/dev/hda5" in the list
[08:36] <Courtlandj> Sooo....
[08:36] <bcl> RezDawg, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see what driver it is using.
[08:36] <RezDawg> eclypse: i get a xserver error when I boot and gives me the error message and then goes to commandline
[08:36] <a_l_e_> i try to redefine the root=/dev/sda to root=8:4... maybe it's this... see you later (after a reboot!)
[08:36] <javaTard> For a server I am setting up, is there enough support "software wise" for the AMD64 version? I know in my 64bit desktop version I have to "tweak" to make 32 bit work with the 64 bit OS
[08:36] <eclypse> post the error message on ubuntuforums.org
[08:36] <eclypse> someone there will know.
[08:36] <NoUse> FX2 have you tried dapper?
[08:37] <Jowi> a_l_e_: for example. "root (hd0,4)" should have the corresponding "root=/dev/hda5" in the list
[08:37] <FX2> NoUse i dont have it now
[08:37] <Jowi> oops
[08:37] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Have you tried the steps listed in: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=205
[08:37] <RezDawg> dcl: i had nvidia drivers before, is there a way the go to generic drviers and then install ati drivers
[08:37] <eclypse> yes
[08:37] <bcl> RezDawg, look at /var/log/X?? for the output of X (I'm not sure of the exact location under ubuntu)
[08:37] <eclypse> those were the exact steps I followed actually.
[08:37] <eclypse> I did the other oens on the ubuntu forums before to
[08:37] <eclypse> neither worked.
[08:37] <j3g> anyone know when the next version of ubuntu is due?
[08:37] <eclypse> fresh installs and everything
[08:38] <bcl> RezDawg, with my ATI Radeon card the radeon driver from Xorg works fine.
[08:38] <NoUse> FX2 when you start the install CD, look at the some of its boot options.  You might be able to disable some autodetect options that are causing problems
[08:38] <bcl> RezDawg, hmm, so did you do a new install or just swap cards?
[08:38] <sskk> When I in dapper instructs the GDM to log in a specific user automatically, the password of that user still has to type his password before Gnome starts up - how can I remove this password control, and just launch the specified users desktop right away?
[08:38] <Madpilot> j3g, not until October, probably - the new version was only just released on June 1st
[08:38] <RezDawg> bcl: i swapped cards
[08:38] <Sashi> how do i start SQL
[08:39] <ThePub> RezDawg:  if it's a new card you'll need to setup a new driver.  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and run through xserver setup should do it
[08:39] <buzzed> what is the best player for playing .mov... totem has static for sound
[08:39] <Courtlandj> eclypse: I wouldn't know any more than the people who wrote those howto's then, sorry. Best bet would be to inquire in those threads I guess.
[08:39] <bcl> RezDawg, ok, there's a way to rerun the video setup. But I'm not on my ubuntu box at the moment.
[08:39] <eclypse> *sigh*
[08:39] <NoUse> Sashi if its mysql, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[08:39] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Dapper seems to be probably the easiest way to get an Xgl setup up and running, so if that's not working for you, you must have an unusual problem?
[08:39] <j3g> Madpilot: it is said that the next version will support installing on dmraid (fake raid) disks... i don't want to try to install 6.06 as it doesn't have that support
[08:40] <Madpilot> j3g, fair enough - what the next version will support is anyone's guess, though - development has barely begun
[08:40] <eclypse> yes
[08:40] <eclypse> I'm running dapper
[08:40] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Actually...
[08:40] <inono> How do I give myself write access to /usr/local
[08:40] <eclypse> the main reason I was going for XGL is... because its a constant opengl environment and it would give me better performance in gnome.
[08:40] <[sam] > anyone knows how to write to a "read only filesystem"
[08:40] <RezDawg> ThePub: thanks ill try that
[08:40] <s0nix> anyone here use a laptop with a modem 56k Conexant.... i need some help :|
[08:40] <NoUse> inono you don't, use sudo when copying stuff there
[08:40] <RezDawg> bcl: thanks for your help
[08:40] <inono> NoUse, hmm
[08:40] <gnomefreak> [sam] : ntfs?
[08:40] <[sam] > gnomefreak, usb flash drive
[08:40] <ThePub> RezDawg:  np.. make sure you backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf first though
[08:41] <Courtlandj> eclypse: That URL was for kubuntu, not standard Gnome + ATI...  Perhaps look at http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[08:41] <Sashi> hmm
[08:41] <NoUse> [sam]  what kind of file system is it?
[08:41] <Sashi> proftp is started...
[08:41] <Jowi> eclypse: did you have a look at that bug-posting i gave you? seems to be a prob with xgl with some ati cards in resolutions higher than 1024x768.
[08:41] <[sam] > gnome, I couldn't write files to this drive
[08:41] <Sashi> but i still cant connect
[08:41] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Perhaps there is some small but vital difference between the two howtos.
[08:41] <RezDawg> part
[08:41] <[sam] > nouse, I think it's FAT
[08:41] <eclypse> yes
[08:41] <eclypse> and it said something about allowing large textures
[08:41] <[sam] > it says read only, when i tried to chmod it, it doesn't let me
[08:41] <igorzolnikov> hi! how i can install opengl?
[08:41] <NoUse> [sam]  check the output of 'mount' and see if its mounted ro or rw
[08:42] <eclypse> I followed 2 different ones regarding to ATI
[08:42] <gnomefreak> [sam] : mount it with sudo or see if you can't change ther permissions  my usb drive mopunts with usr previledges
[08:42] <igorzolnikov>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY kFnbyf
[08:42] <eclypse> I'm sure this isant just a stupidity issue. but rather, a crazy deep problem.
[08:42] <Jowi> igorzolnikov: you probably would want to change that password now :)
[08:42] <Courtlandj> eclypse: I'm willing to agree.  =/
[08:42] <gnomefreak> igorzolnikov: might be better if you did that in your server tab
[08:42] <[sam] > it says owner can view content, others are forbidden
[08:42] <igorzolnikov> i know ))))
[08:43] <igorzolnikov> how i can do it?
[08:43] <NoUse> igorzolnikov opengl is already installed, what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <eclypse> lol
[08:43] <eclypse> I'm sure its a resolution issue
[08:43] <eclypse> this laptop runs at 1280x800
[08:43] <eclypse> but, going lower isant an option unless I want my screen to look lik eshit
[08:43] <eclypse> like shit*
[08:44] <ThePub> can't get the right res?
[08:44] <[sam] > gnomefreak, how do i mount with sudo
[08:44] <Jowi> eclypse: yep. totally agree. 1024x768 look like crap on LCD if it is not native res.
[08:44] <eclypse> if I go lower then native well..most people know what it looks like lol
[08:44] <[sam] > gnomefreak, i'm logged in as root right now
[08:44] <ThePub> like most lcd's.. all funky blocky :D
[08:44] <Courtlandj> eclypse: If it's to do with an ATI card on a laptop (which there are many) then surely you're not alone in this problem. Probably just a matter of time until someone finds a fix or a workaround.
[08:44] <igorzolnikov> i installed xtraceroute and run... result -> xtraceroute
[08:44] <igorzolnikov> OpenGL not supported
[08:45] <igorzolnikov> how can i change password here?
[08:45] <Courtlandj> eclypse: You may have luck searching for your laptop model and/or the ATI card model...   Wish I could help more.
[08:45] <gnomefreak> igorzolnikov: i dont think you can i think staff has to (for freenode)
[08:45] <NoUse> !tell igorzolnikov about irc
[08:45] <Courtlandj> I tried setting up Xgl under Debian Etch and it was a fricking nightmare.
[08:45] <Jowi> igorzolnikov: if your video driver is support opengl+dri and is correctly installed then it will work. what videocard do you have?
[08:45] <Courtlandj> I wanted it sooooo bad.
[08:46] <gnomefreak> [sam] : not sure ive never had to mount anything ever :(
[08:46] <NoUse> igorzolnikov did you compile xtraceroute?
[08:46] <eclypse> hmm
[08:46] <igorzolnikov> geforce 6200
[08:46] <eclypse> where shall I search?
[08:46] <pradeep> anyone seen the new usplash for edgy?
[08:46] <gnomefreak> pradeep: #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Try google (of course) ubuntuforums.org and linuxquestions.org
[08:46] <Jowi> igorzolnikov: follow the nvidia how-to
[08:46] <pradeep> gnomefreak, the place is dead :(
[08:46] <Courtlandj> eclypse: and compiz.net's forums
[08:46] <Jowi> ubotu: tell igorzolnikov about nvidia
[08:46] <igorzolnikov> xtracerout... i installed Add/Remove...
[08:46] <phrowzen> does anyone know why i lost the options (when i right click something) to move to another workstation, etc etc? all i see is: minimize/maximize/on top/move/resize/close
[08:47] <igorzolnikov> iknow... but... Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV40? [Unknown nVidia Card] "
[08:47] <Courtlandj> eclypse: compiz.net should be chock-full of people going through the same hell you are right now.  =)
[08:47] <sewoyl> phrowzen, probably 'too confusing for the user'
[08:47] <sewoyl> oops sorry
[08:47] <phrowzen> sewoyl, ? as in, that wasnt directed towards me?
[08:48] <[sam] > still can't change the permission!
[08:48] <RezDawg> ThePub: thanks again, im now in ubuntu and its running fine the reconfigure command didthe trick
[08:48] <sewoyl> phrowzen, no, directed at the gnome team (although I love gnome :))
[08:48] <Tommy2k4> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153112 would that work on dapper?
[08:48] <NoUse> igorzolnikov you probably need to install the nvidia drivers
[08:49] <phrowzen> sewoyl, oh, ic, hmm, well iirc it only started since my update yesterday, so thats possible... kind of makes me sad though :(
[08:49] <NoUse> !tell igorzolnikov about nvidia
[08:49] <Sashi> yo
[08:49] <Sashi> what port
[08:49] <Sashi> is samba on
[08:49] <Sashi> and how do i add a user
[08:49] <Sashi> for it
[08:49] <eclypse> courtlandj, thanks for the attemption to help
[08:49] <NoUse> !tell Sashi about samba
[08:49] <igorzolnikov> i know... i tried... but x don't start...
[08:49] <NoUse> Sashi port 139
[08:49] <NoUse> igorzolnikov then you probably missed a step
[08:50] <Sashi> thx
[08:50] <ThePub> RezDawg:  good to hear :)  you can use reconfigure on any install package you can find with "dpkg -l" just so you know.
[08:50] <sewoyl> phrowzen, I havent used he new ubuntu yet (dow nlaodin progress)so I dont know but it would be great if for each option they disable they added a gconf key for re-enabling it ...
[08:50] <ThePub> RezDawg:  "update-alternatives" is another command worth looking into.
[08:50] <lanlan> need help with beagle on ubuntu 6.06 LTS, can't get it to index files
[08:50] <lanlan> cant some one help?
[08:50] <lanlan> can
[08:50] <sip> canal de ubuntu espaol?
[08:51] <phrowzen> sewoyl, it may very well be in there ;) i just dont know where to look
[08:51] <apokryphos> !es
[08:51] <NoUse> !es
[08:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:51] <jtj> i've downloaded easy, the first time i went to install it froze so i closed the window, now ehn i try to install again i get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' tpo crrect the problem, but that command isnt accepted by the terminal, could someone suggest what i need to do please
[08:51] <RezDawg> ThePub, i have to invest more time into linux, but obilvion is ruling my life right now
[08:51] <sip> #ubuntu es
[08:51] <sip> #ubuntu - es
[08:51] <NoUse> jtj define "not accepted"
[08:51] <theine> jtj: Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:52] <sewoyl> sip, type in /join #ubuntu-es
[08:52] <Sashi> umm
[08:52] <Sashi> ok
[08:52] <Sashi> how do i share files
[08:52] <Sashi> between a linux box and a windows box
[08:52] <Courtlandj> Sashi: samba!
[08:52] <Sashi> yea i know
[08:52] <Sashi> but where do i put the files in
[08:53] <lanlan> i need help with beagle, can anyone help?
[08:53] <Courtlandj> Sashi: You will need to have encrypted passwords.
[08:53] <Sashi> eh?
[08:53] <Courtlandj> Sashi: Windows really only plays nice if you have set up a samba password.
[08:53] <jtj> nouse yeah its stalled again on flashplugin-free, its the same as froze when i did automatically
[08:54] <theine> Sashi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[08:54] <NoUse> jtj but "sudo dpkg --configure -a" should fix that
[08:54] <Sashi> erm i want to share a file on the linux box
[08:54] <Sashi> to the windows
[08:54] <graveson> how can i access a pc that is connected to totally different windows domain and my ubuntu desktop has no domain
[08:54] <theine> jtj: From where is trying to download the package?
[08:54] <jtj> nouse it asked me for sudo and i entered tht, its the flashplugin-nonfree which is blocking everything
[08:54] <kwilliams> gnomefreak: I burned a new server CD for the partman issue...It's still happenening.  I tried expert mode, and it crashes when trying to detect the drives, the last command line is "partman: Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while."  It's been over 5 minutes now...
[08:55] <jtj> theine, nouse its easyubuntu
[08:55] <gnomefreak> kwilliams: maybe a drive issue
[08:55] <eclypse> anyone know what this Fatal server error: Unrecognized option: vt7 is?
[08:55] <Courtlandj> graveson: You should be able to connect via IP address. From windows, \\192.10.0.1 or whatever.
[08:55] <theine> jtj: yes, but what do you mean it's stalled? what's the last in the terminal output saying?
[08:55] <Courtlandj> For linux, I think it would be smb://168.0.9.0 or so forth.
[08:55] <jtj> nouse, theine but i think its downloaded the tar and is trying to int
[08:55] <stuNNed> so if i `apt-get build-dep gnomad2` and then i want to install gnomad2 latest how do i do that with apt?
[08:56] <kwilliams> gnomefreak: OK.  I had gentoo installed.  It runs just fine.  I also tried the Ubuntu desktop CD...and it loaded to the desktop and showed me the hard drive data...
[08:56] <jtj> stall fromt here and it says setting up flashplugin-nonfree
[08:56] <a_l_e_> ... no chance :-(
[08:56] <theine> jtj: could you please paste the terminal output at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:56] <jtj> sorry about the plit typing
[08:56] <Sashi> hmm
[08:56] <lanlan> beagle dosen't index files, can someone help?
[08:56] <Sashi> weird
[08:56] <Sashi> my samba conf
[08:56] <Sashi> doesnt have a file sharing section
[08:56] <theine> jtj: ah, ok, have you tried to install flashplugin-nonfree manually with apt-get?
[08:57] <Jowi> a_l_e_: just left to soon. what is the exact /dev/ path for the ubs-key?
[08:57] <graveson> courtlandj: i cannot even ping the windows system which is connected the domain
[08:57] <jtj> theine i cant recall doing so, but this week i could, have done anything, ill check to see if its already installed in synaptics?
[08:58] <stuNNed> if i apt-get build-dep package how do install the package i'm building for w/apt from command line because this feature is not supported withthe frontend yet
[08:58] <theine> jtj: Open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and see what you get
[08:58] <Courtlandj> graveson: Then it's on a different network, behind a router or firewall or something? You'd need to be on the same domain, or have a way set up to tunnel to it.
[08:59] <[sam] > anyone knows how to mount a usb flash drive?
[08:59] <a_l_e_> Jowi: it's a usb disk... /dev/sda; root is on /dev/sda4
[08:59] <graveson> courtlandj: thanks
[08:59] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Should just plug it in...   does that not work?
[08:59] <edlang> hmm
[08:59] <[sam] > courtland, it was mounted automatically, but I couldn't write anything to it
[09:00] <stuNNed> so i apt-get build-src package how do i install the binary w/apt-get because the frontend doesn't support this yet
[09:00] <edlang> I'm still having no luck compiling wine on amd64. How do I force it to be a 32 bit compile?
[09:00] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Strange. Can you read files from it?
[09:00] <[sam] > I'm wondering if there is a way to mount it as read & write
[09:00] <kwilliams> Does anyone know why Partman would crash during an install, or can help me troubleshoot this issue?
[09:00] <jtj> theine ok well it says already newest  version and has once again stopped at setting up flashplugin-nonfree
[09:00] <Jowi> a_l_e_: how many harddisks do you have connected?
[09:00] <[sam] > yea, i can read, but when i write it, it gives me an error says read only file system
[09:00] <theine> jtj: what's the newest version?
[09:00] <Sashi> umm
[09:00] <Sashi> woot?
[09:00] <Sashi> i got my windows box to be able to connect to samba server on this linux box
[09:00] <Sashi> but..
[09:01] <theine> jtj: ah, ok, neverminf
[09:01] <jtj> theine sorry it says flashplugin-nonfree
[09:01] <Sashi> how can i share the files
[09:01] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Some memory sticks have switches that make them read-only. Does yours have one?
[09:01] <EmilyN> [sam] : does your flash drive have any kind of "lock" mode? like the way an mp3 player sometimes has a lock mode. when the lock mode is on, it will only mount as read
[09:01] <theine> jtj: so can you paste the terminal output now?
[09:01] <[sam] > it's a flash drive, no, it doesn't have it
[09:01] <jtj> theine will do but i didnt cos we were doing that, sec
[09:01] <EmilyN> *high five* Courtlandj
[09:01] <mneptok> [sam] : what does ls -la on the mount point tell you?
[09:01] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Okay, what does `mount` give you on the command line?
[09:02] <Bassetts> is it possible to make a .sh that runs irssi, joins a server, joins a channel and continues to run when i close my terminal?
[09:02] <mneptok> Bassetts: you want "screen"
[09:02] <[sam] > Courtlandj, rw,umask=000
[09:02] <Jowi> a_l_e_: how many harddisks do you have connected? <--- important in order to know how to mount the usb
[09:02] <Gullstad> Were is the xorg.conf?
[09:02] <Bassetts> mneptok: how does that work?
[09:02] <Jowi> a_l_e_: if you have only 1 harddisk then "root (hd1,3)" and for the kernel option "root=/dev/sda4"
[09:02] <a_l_e_> Jowi: 1 external
[09:02] <[sam] > courtlandj, /dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 type vfat (rw,umask=000)
[09:02] <Jowi> a_l_e_: how many internal?
[09:02] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Not sure then if the machine thinks it's mounted as read-write.
[09:03] <mneptok> Bassetts: screen creates a virtual TTY that is not connected to a specific login session, allowing apps run in screen to run even when you log out
[09:03] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Maybe you don't have permissions? I can't imagine why that would be, if it's vfat...
[09:03] <a_l_e_> Jowi: i think that the most important informations are about the support for booting on external disk in the kernel and how to check for it
[09:03] <Bassetts> mneptok, so what would i enter into the sh?
[09:03] <a_l_e_> Jowi: i'm on ppc... so no grub but yaboot
[09:03] <[sam] > Courtlandj, I booted from liveCD and logged in as root
[09:03] <mneptok> Bassetts: there's no shell script necessary
[09:03] <Jowi> a_l_e_: if the BIOS can see your external disk then it should work.
[09:04] <a_l_e_> Jowi: most of the things are the same, but all of them
[09:04] <Bassetts> mneptok: so id type, screen irssi??
[09:04] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Could it be that the device is full?
[09:04] <mneptok> Bassetts: correct
[09:04] <Bassetts> mneptok: do what i need in irssi then close terminal?
[09:04] <jtj> theine ok the sudo apt-get terminal is at 15876
[09:04] <mneptok> Bassetts: and irssi can be configured to auto-connect to servers and auto-join channels
[09:04] <Bassetts> mneptok: then it will run until the machine is shutdown?
[09:04] <mneptok> Bassetts: or until you /quit irssi
[09:04] <Jowi> a_l_e_: that make it harder. never tried yaboot
[09:04] <[sam] > courtlandj, I could not delete files, but i moved it to trash can
[09:04] <valehru> hmm...how come every time I change my disk to mount from /tmp/disks-conf-sdb1 to /media/backup/ every time that I reboot the machine it reverts back to the original ubuntu path: /tmp/disks-conf-sdb1
[09:04] <Gullstad> Were is the xorg.conf?
[09:04] <mastastealth> !flash
[09:04] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:04] <a_l_e_> Jowi: the bios (ok, it's not a bios... openfirmware here) sees the disk and boots from there. but then yaboot (the grub) doesn't succeed in loading the kernel
[09:05] <[sam] > courtlandj, so now it lets me delete files
[09:05] <Gullstad> !xorg.conf
[09:05] <mneptok> Gullstad: "locate xorg.conf
[09:05] <mneptok> "
[09:05] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gullstad
[09:05] <valehru> Gullstad, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:05] <[sam] > courtlandj, i'm gonna try adding files to the disk now
[09:05] <a_l_e_> Jowi: so my question is more: how can i check if the support for booting on usb is enable.
[09:05] <Gullstad> valehru: Thanks
[09:05] <valehru> np
[09:05] <ic56> Valehru: it's because your /etc/fstab which carries the state between reboots, tells Ubuntu to do so.
[09:05] <Bassetts> mneptok: ok, im doing this to run irssi to log a channel over ssh, what would i do if i wanted to open irssi again in my ssh session?
[09:05] <theine> jtj: sec...
[09:05] <valehru> ic hmm....but the
[09:05] <mneptok> Bassetts: reconnect to the machine, then "screen -r"
[09:05] <jtj> theine sure, at your lesisure, thanks for the help
[09:06] <Courtlandj> [sam] : Okay, hope the problem clears up for you. Never heard of root not being able to write to a device that was mounted rw.
[09:06] <Jowi> a_l_e_: then, theoreticly, it should work fine. i don't know what is enabled or not in the ppc kernel. sorry
[09:06] <Bassetts> mneptok: seems screen isnt installed on the server =(
[09:06] <Courtlandj> (That wasn't ntfs, hehe)
[09:06] <mneptok> Bassetts: so install it :)
[09:06] <valehru> ic56, I thought that gksu disks-admin edits the fstab file though
[09:06] <a_l_e_> Jowi: ok, thanks for caring! :-)
[09:06] <mastastealth> does any1 know that command to enable flash after an apt-get of the plugin?
[09:06] <Bassetts> mneptok: im not allowed apt-get use on the server, it isnt mine
[09:07] <theine> jtj: hmmm, so it just hangs... try "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugiin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:07] <mneptok> Bassetts: you can still install it in your ~/, and add the location to your $PATH
[09:07] <valehru> there is no mention of that drive in the fstab file though
[09:07] <ic56> valehru: I'm not familiar with disks-admin.  Read /etc/fstab and discover for yourself whether disks-admin correctly changed it or not.
[09:07] <[sam] > courtland, when i try to paste a file to the usb drive, it tells me"writing to devices is not supported"
[09:07] <Bassetts> mneptok: =S ok, how do i do that, bit noob here
[09:07] <mneptok> Bassetts: or ask the admin to install it
[09:07] <valehru> no its not in it
[09:07] <theine> jtj: sorry, "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:08] <ic56> valehru: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[09:08] <valehru> however how is ubuntu defining the path /tmp/disks-conf-sdb1/ then if its not in fstab?
[09:08] <ic56> valehru: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[09:08] <Bassetts> mneptok: for me to install would i have to get screen from the internet on this pc, then upload to the server and install?
[09:08] <Jowi> a_l_e_: the option should be listed in /boot/config-ppcnumbergoeshere (you can "cat" it) but I have no idea what to look for
[09:08] <[sam] > the disk is not full, it still has about 120 left
[09:08] <[sam] > 120mb
[09:08] <mneptok> Bassetts: /query window, please
[09:08] <valehru> ic56, my disk is ext3 not ntfs
[09:08] <Courtlandj> [sam] : What happens if you try it from the terminal? Such as: cp /some/file.txt /media/usbdisklocation/folder
[09:09] <eclypse> crap
[09:09] <eclypse> fglrxinfo gives me a new error
[09:09] <Courtlandj> eclypse: ?
[09:09] <eclypse> damn
[09:09] <eclypse> new shit keeps popping up
[09:09] <eclypse> see, i managed to get it to startx
[09:09] <eclypse> luckilly
[09:09] <eclypse> but fglrxinfo says the following
[09:09] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Hey, progress.
[09:10] <eclypse> Error: unable to open display :0
[09:10] <eclypse> yes, luckilly I'm very patient.
[09:10] <ic56> valehru: Oh?  interesting. I thought /tmp/disks* were used by the installer for NTFS.  I don't have dapper...  Ok.  I don't know of a script to do the job for native filesystems, but I'm surprised.  How did you create those filesystems?
[09:10] <[sam] > courtlandj, cp: cannot create regular file 'file name' : read-only file system
[09:10] <^richiefrich> what card ?
[09:10] <eclypse> Mobility X300 PCI-E
[09:10] <jtj> theine no it ownt let me, i get the  you must manually run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem
[09:11] <Jowi> hello. friend of mine, using dapper, is thinking about a Turion 64 (mt-32 or similar) with onboard ati xpress 200. anyone is using ubuntu on a board/cpu like that? any issues?
[09:11] <Courtlandj> [sam] : I am boggled. According to mount, it is read-write, but ..?
[09:11] <ic56> valehru: normally, the installer will put all filesystems you create in /etc/fstab.  Did you create those filesystems by hand, after installation?
[09:11] <[sam] > courtlandj, yea it does seem strange
[09:11] <valehru> I have an ext3 disk as a backup
[09:11] <valehru> which I created years ago, it has all of my main files
[09:11] <piqqy> why isn't Xubuntu 6.06 letting me do a raid config in the partitioner?
[09:11] <^richiefrich> eclypse:  did u do eselect
[09:11] <ic56> valehru: so, that disk pre-dates your Ubuntu installation?
[09:11] <valehru> ya
[09:12] <[sam] > courlandj, but there is a umask=000 , what does it mean
[09:12] <valehru> ic56, there is no os on it...only files...
[09:12] <Courtlandj> piqqy: You might need the Dapper Alternative install disk?
[09:12] <eclypse> eselect?
[09:12] <eclypse> what do you mean?
[09:12] <^richiefrich> to select sti
[09:12] <^richiefrich> ati
[09:12] <theine> jtj: Does "sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree" work?
[09:12] <ic56> valehru: when you installed ubuntu, you should have informed of the pre-existing partitions and where you wanted them mounted.  Now you're gonna have to do some extra work...
[09:12] <eclypse> how would one go abouit doing that?
[09:12] <^richiefrich> eselect opengl set ati
[09:12] <ic56> valehru: informed -> informed it
[09:13] <valehru> yes,....I suppose I should have....
[09:13] <valehru> but there should be a way to change the default of the installation
[09:13] <eclypse> it says 'eselect : command not found
[09:13] <^richiefrich> and do u have  Driver  "fglrx"
[09:13] <eclypse> yes
[09:13] <eclypse> I do
[09:13] <eclypse> but fglrxinfo gives me that error.
[09:13] <eclypse> almost as if it disabled its self.
[09:13] <eclypse> :(
[09:13] <Courtlandj> [sam] : One second...
[09:13] <jtj> theine ok now that has said it has removed flashplugin-nonfree
[09:13] <inono> How do you switch between workspaces quicky ?
[09:14] <^richiefrich> eclypse:  eselect-opengl
[09:14] <ic56> valehru: are you just exploring, trying to figure out the right way to do this in the GUI, or do you just want it done and over with?
[09:14] <eclypse> notfound
[09:14] <^richiefrich> thats what supplies eselect
[09:14] <eclypse> oi
[09:14] <eclypse> oic
[09:14] <^richiefrich> :)
[09:14] <eclypse> you want me to apt-get it?
[09:14] <[sam] > courlandj, i was just trying to backup the files and reinstall linux because linux was unstable after I reinstalled mbr
[09:14] <^richiefrich> try it it might help
[09:14] <theine> jtj: cool, now try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" again
[09:14] <Courtlandj> [sam] : umask=000 is basically like setting all the files in that mountpoint as chmod 777. In other words, anyone can read, write, execute them...
[09:15] <eclypse> couldn't find those packages.
[09:15] <[sam] > courtlandj, yea the system seems inconsistent
[09:15] <valehru> ic56, well....when I change it in the GUI it works.....however when I reboot the system it goes back to the default setting of /tmp/blah blah .....just want the change to be permenant....so I think I'll just add it in the fstab file instead..
[09:15] <Courtlandj> [sam] : So if you're accessing it as root, then you should -really- have no problems writing?
[09:16] <valehru> i've run the gui as sudo as well...and it makes no difference
[09:16] <valehru> always reverts back to the defaults
[09:16] <^richiefrich> eclypse: well what have u all done ?   and what ATi-driver ?  ver i mean
[09:16] <eclypse> umm
[09:16] <jtj> theine thanks yes that seems to have worked and its started installing the rest of the package
[09:16] <eclypse> I got the fglrx from the repos
[09:16] <eclypse> apt-get
[09:16] <^richiefrich> ok what ver
[09:16] <theine> jtj: great
[09:16] <jtj> theine yes, thanks
[09:16] <Horuzlna> hi. I installed ubuntu using my usb2 keyboard... but now i've plugged in a ps2 keyboard and it doesn't work properly.. you can't switch tty's or anything (alt-F2) writes a capitol B
[09:16] <Horuzlna> how can I fix this?
[09:16] <theine> jtj: you're welcome
[09:16] <nansub0111> hello. i hell a dell inspiron 5000 with an old radeon 7500. i just installed dapper 6.06 and i've noticed that some of the gtk buttons get corrupted at times. is anyone else experiencing something similar, and if so have u fixed it? and hwo?
[09:17] <Horuzlna> usb keyboard, typo
[09:17] <eclypse> and I've installed XGL and everything it need.s
[09:17] <[sam] > courtlandj, I think so, besides ntfs, i'm not sure about vfat
[09:17] <ic56> valehru: ok. you know how to do that?
[09:17] <Courtlandj> eclypse: I just thought of something, heh. You may want to try doing a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:17] <^richiefrich> eclypse: ooh u in XGL ?
[09:17] <valehru> yeah...testing it out now
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[09:17] <ic56> valehru: ok. l8r
, its giving me an error
[09:17] <jtj> theine oh dear when it insatlls the rest of the easyubuntu pakage which was i suppose in the queue it comes back to the flahpluin and freezes again
[09:18] <Courtlandj> eclypse: This will make sure all your stuff is the latest, maybe there's something fixed in a newer version of something...
[09:18] <valehru> ic56, /dev/sdb1  /media/backup ext3  defaults  1 2
[09:18] <^richiefrich> eclypse: well fglrx  doesnt work well in XGL
[09:18] <eclypse> eveyrthing hates ATI apparently
[09:18] <eclypse> but I'm not giving up
[09:18] <^richiefrich> eclypse: just an FYI
[09:18] <^richiefrich> no not everything
[09:18] <theine> jtj: can't you tell easyubuntu to *not* install the flash plugin?
[09:18] <^richiefrich> it works fine here
[09:18] <Courtlandj> [sam] : vfat should not be a problem...
[09:19] <jtj> theine trying to think how to do that as i told it to do so hours ago and it just seems to run through what was in thew queue
[09:19] <valehru> ok...rebooting to see if it will work
[09:19] <sewoyl> see yaall later
[09:19] <theine> jtj: What happens if you do "sudo apt-get install -f"?
[09:19] <ompaul> jtj, go to #easyubuntu with that, they will look after you
[09:19] <ic56> valehru: seems reasonable except for the mount point.  /media is meant for removable media.  We make an exception in this channel for NTFS and HFS disks because windows users expect to find their "drives" in Places>Computer but in your case, it sounds like /local/backup would be a better place.
[09:20] <jtj> theine ok if i rebbot then run the install again it gives me optons and i can decline it then, would tht work
[09:20] <theine> jtj: maybe, but try the install -f thing
[09:21] <jtj> dpkg was interupted must manually run dpkg
[09:21] <eclypse> ok I'm running the update and dist-upgrade right now
[09:21] <theine> jtj: damn
[09:21] <theine> jtj: sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[09:22] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Might be a ton of stuff!  =)
[09:22] <eclypse> nah
[09:22] <eclypse> I ran dist-upgrade last night
[09:22] <eclypse> it didn't finish tho
[09:22] <eclypse> I stopped it at like 80% so I couold use the internet
[09:22] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Hmm
[09:22] <eclypse> I'm on dialup btw
[09:22] <eclypse> so
[09:22] <eclypse> I'm using a weird setup
[09:22] <eclypse> I have my desktop which is on windows on the internet
[09:22] <Courtlandj> eclypse: Oh geez.  =\   I feel sorry for you.
[09:23] <eclypse> then I have a LAN cable directly connected to the laptop
[09:23] <eclypse> then the laptop is getting internet through the desktop
[09:23] <jtj> theine ok it says removing again and not trying to install anything else
[09:23] <eclypse> :P
[09:23] <eclypse> it works lol
[09:23] <theine> jtj: good, now "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:23] <ryanakca> ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" I tried my username & pass (yes, I'm in the lpadmin group), same thing. What do I do?
[09:23] <Courtlandj> eclypse: If you get dapper + xgl + compiz running via windows + modem, then you're like some kind of linux green beret. Able to survive in the wilderness...
[09:24] <eclypse> lol
[09:24] <eclypse> lmao
[09:24] <eclypse> yeah
[09:24] <jtj> theine it installed java and then that was it, which could have been the last of the install, i guess
[09:24] <eclypse> I told you I am very patient.
[09:24] <SurfnKid> What a goal! Italia
[09:24] <theine> jtj: just to be sure: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[09:25] <jtj> theine done
[09:25] <SurfnKid> guys how can i check my hard drive for errors I get a screen saying buffer I/O error onlogical block 0
[09:25] <theine> jtj: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:25] <KinGnu> hello everybody
[09:26] <pradeep> hi KinGnu
[09:27] <jtj> theine all done
[09:27] <theine> jtj: ok, now: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:28] <[sam] > courtlandj, I'm uploading the file to a server
[09:28] <jtj> theine damn stalled again while setting up
[09:28] <blacktears> could anyone help me with installing programs that ive downloaded with a .tar.gz extension
[09:29] <theine> jtj: sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[09:29] <blacktears> i just started using linux
[09:29] <[sam] > courtlandj, forget about the flash drive, i'm installing a new linux
[09:29] <SurfnKid> blacktears: and how does it feel
[09:29] <theine> jtj: looks like the flashplugin is uninstallable on your machine, maybe easyubuntu messed something up
[09:29] <blacktears> well i love linux so far
[09:29] <[sam] > courlandj, is ubuntu better than gentoo?
[09:29] <Jowi> ubotu: tell blacktears about compile
[09:30] <bigbyul> hi
[09:30] <blacktears> yeah i know about compile but were do i download them
[09:30] <theine> jtj: Perhaps try #easyubuntu, I've never really used it
[09:30] <blacktears> the compliers
[09:30] <[sam] > is ubuntu a new dist
[09:30] <jtj> theine ok well at least the block has been removed
[09:30] <Madpilot> blacktears, which programs?
[09:30] <bigbyul> i'm new to ubuntu and i have a question about resolution
[09:30] <blacktears> well autoscan-0.99
[09:30] <[sam] > bigbyul, you mean screen resolutioN?
[09:30] <eclypse> I am indeed insane.
[09:30] <Jowi> blacktears: you will find that answer in that link :)
[09:30] <jtj> theine thaks for your help
[09:30] <theine> jtj: no problem
[09:31] <eclypse> I download such large shit on my dialup lol
[09:31] <blacktears> what link
[09:31] <bigbyul> i have a widescreen monitor and i don't know how to get max res
[09:31] <SurfnKid> blacktears: me too
[09:31] <bigbyul> can anyone help me?
[09:31] <eclypse> I mean, I've fucking downloaded a GB worth of music before.....
[09:31] <eclypse> how insane am I?
[09:31] <eclypse> lol
[09:31] <Jowi> blacktears: that ubotu sent you
[09:31] <ompaul> blacktears, !resolution
[09:31] <Jowi> blacktears: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[09:31] <ompaul> !resolution
[09:31] <ubotu> resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:31] <[sam] > bigbyul, did you try to edit the config file
[09:31] <blacktears> thanks alot
[09:31] <bigbyul> thanx
[09:31] <brandon> where's the xorg log?
[09:32] <[sam] > bigbyul, there is a config file for screen resolution and refresh rates
[09:32] <bigbyul> i'm totally new to linux
[09:32] <ompaul> [sam] , it is downstream from debian and is getting on for two years old
[09:32] <bigbyul> where can i find the config file?
[09:32] <piqqy> what's a gui samba client/browser that comes with ubuntu?
[09:32] <ompaul> [sam] , 4 releases so far
[09:32] <[sam] > ompaul, you mean the config file?
[09:32] <[sam] > ompaul, you mean ubuntu
[09:32] <ompaul> [sam] , ubuntu
[09:33] <[sam] > ompaul, what's its advantages
[09:33] <a_l_e_> Jowi: i'll try to load the initrd file... maybe it chances something :-)
[09:33] <pradeep> brandon, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:33] <ompaul> [sam] , support community, debian as upstream, and it just rocks
[09:33] <jay> anyone know their way with GRUB?
[09:33] <ompaul> [sam] , ohh and no pesky root all sudo
[09:34] <blacktears> grub boot loader?
[09:34] <gizmo_the_great1> Im trying to determine what these errors relate to that I get at the end of dmesg : APIC error on CPU0: 0c(0c)
[09:34] <jay> yeah
[09:34] <blacktears> yeah whats wrong
[09:34] <jay> I installed Ubuntu first, and then XP
[09:34] <jay> grr
[09:34] <KinGnu> ppl, how do i install audio codecs?????
[09:34] <apokryphos> KinGnu: check the FAQ
[09:34] <ompaul> !restricted
[09:34] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[09:34] <apokryphos> jay: check the FAQ :)
[09:34] <gizmo_the_great1> KinGnu: try installing Automatix
[09:34] <earthen> what is the name of the ATI packge to manage dule head
[09:34] <[sam] > ompaul, is it easy to install? I'm considering changing my linux to gentoo, or ubuntu, but gentoo takes a long time to install
[09:34] <apokryphos> !automatix
[09:34] <ompaul> KinGnu, see restricted
[09:35] <deloreandmc> has anyone had (and fixed) the problem where a realplayer internet stream (BBC radio) becomes garbled after a second or two of playing?
[09:35] <apokryphos> !+automatix
[09:35] <ubotu> methinks automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. It has been reported that it may break your system, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of Automatix please join #automatix.
[09:35] <jay> ok i'm checking them out... thanks
[09:35] <pradeep> jay, winxp eats that up
[09:35] <KinGnu> thanks
[09:35] <blacktears> thank god i left xp
[09:35] <ompaul> [sam] , it is easy
[09:35] <Jowi> a_l_e_: :)
[09:35] <ompaul> !test
[09:35] <ubotu> Passed.
[09:36] <earthen> [sam] , if your a noob stay away from gentoo
[09:36] <deloreandmc> has anyone had (and fixed) the problem where a realplayer internet stream (BBC radio) becomes garbled after a second or two of playing?
[09:36] <[sam] > earthen, it took me days just trying to install it  and  get it to work
[09:37] <earthen> [sam] , took me 4 week to get to any kind of a desktop
[09:37] <brandon> what's the command to reconfigure the xserver?
[09:37] <blacktears> hey has anyone used DSL linux?
[09:37] <apokryphos> brandon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:37] <SurfnKid> how can i remote login to another linux box
[09:37] <earthen> [sam] , took me about 45m to get ubuntu up and working with full 3d driver for my ATI card and everything
[09:38] <gizmo_the_great1> SurfnKid: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop or use VNC
[09:38] <[sam] > earthen, really? I'm using a ati 9700pro,
[09:38] <ProN00b> blacktears, yes, i have used it and i can say it truly sucks hard
[09:38] <SurfnKid> gizmo_the_great1: but thru a terminal
[09:38] <SurfnKid> no gui
[09:38] <earthen> [sam] , cool same as what i have
[09:38] <gizmo_the_great1> SurfnKid: if you have vnc installed you can do it
[09:38] <ProN00b> gizmo_the_great1, stfu, he means ssh
[09:39] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, you need ssh
[09:39] <KanRiNiN> I heard the new ATI drivers were broken for the 9000pro, so I installed the 8.24's.. Problem is that they're so SLOW for some reason.
[09:39] <earthen> [sam] , and today i just got a second 19" lcd monitour gonna try and get duel hear to work :)
[09:39] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: ah thats what i was lookin for
[09:39] <blacktears> hey ive got a compiler
[09:39] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: do i have to enable that
[09:39] <gizmo_the_great1> ProN00b: doesnt have to use ssh I thought. I used VNC to do it the other day
[09:39] <blacktears> how do you open .deb
[09:39] <earthen> [sam] , I've had no isues with my 9700pro at all
[09:40] <sskk> KanRiNiN: Are the ATI drivers (fglrx I supose) broken in dapper drake?
[09:40] <gizmo_the_great1> Im trying to determine what these errors relate to that I get at the end of dmesg : APIC error on CPU0: 0c(0c)
[09:40] <ProN00b> gizmo_the_great1, what kind of hacked vnc server allows terminal access ?
[09:40] <KanRiNiN> sskk:
[09:40] <SurfnKid> ProN00b:  hehe thats what i thought
[09:40] <[sam] > earthen, I had issue installing ati driver to my previous linux system
[09:40] <KanRiNiN> from the forums, only for the older cards
[09:40] <KanRiNiN> like pre 9500
[09:40] <Avdi> KanRiNiN: the open source ati drivers work
[09:40] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: i knew it was some telnet type but didnt know what
[09:40] <Samus_Aran> how can I access the files on the ubuntu CD ?  -r--r--r-- 2 root root 623M 2006-05-30 18:15 filesystem.squashfs
[09:40] <[sam] > earthen, had to mannually configure the refresh rate
[09:40] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, well, you need to install sshd on the machine you want to access and then you can access it with a ssh client
[09:40] <Avdi> I've had trouble with the fglrx drivers
[09:40] <KanRiNiN> Avdi: do you mean the mesa drivers?  or the xorg drivers?
[09:40] <earthen> [sam] , i used this site as a guide ant it did pretty well i must say http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[09:40] <blacktears> anyone? how do i open .deb files
[09:41] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, ssh is like telnet, but its unsniffable
[09:41] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: ok cool, do i just look for the pkg and install it
[09:41] <KanRiNiN> because I couldn't install the xorgs either and I went for "Method 2"
[09:41] <blacktears> archive manager wont do it
[09:41] <Avdi> xorg
[09:41] <ProN00b> blacktears, dpgk -i or something
[09:41] <apokryphos> blacktears: man dpkg
[09:41] <apokryphos> ProN00b: that's to install
[09:41] <blacktears> ok
[09:41] <earthen> [sam] , yeah I think i had to do that too but you don't have to if you install the ati drivers
[09:41] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, apt-get install sshd ssh
[09:42] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: k
[09:42] <sskk> KanRiNiN: hmm - the fglrx are OK on my LCD, but when using TV-out, all Xv convent is streched... I've been strugeling with this issue for a few days now - this might be an explanation.
[09:42] <Unintentional> hey, does anyone know a command that sends an e-mail?
[09:42] <blacktears> it says i need superuser
[09:42] <KanRiNiN> sskk: my problem is that compared to the same drivers installed in Suse 10, I get 25% of the performance
[09:43] <Samus_Aran> blacktears: try in mc ?
[09:43] <blacktears> mc?
[09:43] <ProN00b> blacktears, go root
[09:43] <sskk> KanRiNiN: are you using openGL or Xv?
[09:43] <axel_> hey, do somebody can help me to install real player, quicktime o something similar? its just that i search packages and things like that but i always have problems and never work
[09:43] <blacktears> i know, how?
[09:43] <ProN00b> sudo su
[09:44] <ProN00b> no, wait, its sudo sh
[09:44] <apokryphos> ProN00b: no, please recommend sudo -i instead
[09:44] <KanRiNiN> Gl for games, but as you know the overlay is broken so it's turned off
[09:44] <biaf> any1 got a personal preferance regarding WebMin or ISPConfig?
[09:44] <KanRiNiN> I did the --initial Xv thing
[09:44] <McNutella> does ubuntu have an ftp sever started as default ?
[09:44] <blacktears> it says sh-3.00#
[09:44] <apokryphos> ProN00b: ideally it's better to just prefix your commands with sudo, but if you *have* to go into a root shell, then sudo -i is the best way. It sets up the environment appropriately.
[09:44] <McNutella> !ftp
[09:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[09:45] <McNutella> whats the easy ftp server I can run on ubuntu please ?
[09:45] <ProN00b> blacktears, do what apokryphos said
[09:45] <ProN00b> instead of what i said
[09:45] <h3sp4wn_> McNutella: proftpd is relatively easy to setup
[09:46] <ulaas> hi, how do i change console resolution to higher values to get native on my LCD ?
[09:46] <McNutella> unless there is an ftpd alredy on ubuntu
[09:46] <McNutella> !proftpd
[09:46] <ubotu> McNutella: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:46] <ulaas> grub?
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[09:47] <knight488> hey, anyone have experiance making DVD's play?
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> knight488: sure
[09:47] <McNutella> where is pureftpd gui, seems I already have it installed
[09:47] <apokryphos> knight488: have you followed the instructions on the wiki?
[09:47] <Bassetts> if using SSH is it possible to open another terminal on the remote machine from the SSH terminal?
[09:47] <Samus_Aran> knight488: use Xine.  install a DeCSS library, AC3 and MPEG-2 codecs
[09:48] <ProN00b> knight488, you should read the countless online resources on that topic
[09:48] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: i thought so.. how ? :)
[09:48] <Dial_tone> knight488: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[09:48] <biaf> what do you get hang'n off an apple tree?
[09:48] <ProN00b> knight488, thats a question you can easyly resolve with google
[09:48] <biaf> sore arms..
[09:48] <knight488> yeah you'd think
[09:49] <Dial_tone> one thing nobody can say ubuntu lacks is documentation
[09:49] <jordo> true
[09:49] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: what bitdepth and resolution are you after ?
[09:49] <jordo> soo
[09:49] <Bassetts> if using SSH is it possible to open another terminal on the remote machine from the SSH terminal?
[09:49] <KuLover> Heya, I my motherboard has failed and if I replace it with a different one, will I have problems booting? Is there something I should do to prepair Kubuntu?
[09:50] <KuLover> Ubuntu**
[09:50] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: dont care for the depth. i need 1280x800
[09:50] <TLE> I can't get devilspie to work, installed 0.16 from repos, and made a trial .ds file but it doesn't seem to work, any ideas on how to truble shoot
[09:51] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: that is an odd resolution.  I don't think you will be able to get that in standard vesa modes
[09:52] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: do you have any links in mind or should i play holmes on google? either way thanks. ;)
[09:52] <jhenn> how can i make it so my ubuntu boots to command line only?
[09:52] <ulaas> jhenn: inittab
[09:52] <McNutella> cant figure out how to get my ip address
[09:52] <bigbyul> i got the resolution problem fixed!!
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: I can pastebin.com you the standard vesa modes, to be used in your grub.conf
[09:52] <bigbyul> thanx [sam] 
[09:52] <TLE> McNutella> ifconfig
[09:53] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: that may help! thanx
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: but it only has the normal modes: 640x480  |  800x600  | 1024x768  | 1280x1024
[09:53] <Niklas_E> when you trying to install ubunto and when it tries to start x I asume from the cd the screen gets "not connected" got any tips for that?
[09:53] <earthen> anybody know how to do duel-Head
[09:53] <McNutella> tle thanks
[09:53] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: lemme try maybe they will do good for me
[09:53] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: I got the ssh server on one machine and I can login, but what would the password be? do i set it on the server. where's the settings to enter it
[09:54] <biaf> jeff
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: http://pastebin.com/715290
[09:54] <biaf> oops
[09:54] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, you log into it with a normal username and password of the box
[09:54] <biaf> i thaught i was logging into my box, wrong keyboard :p
[09:54] <TLE> Anybody's got some devilspire experience
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: if you have your kernel source or documentation installed, you can read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/framebuffer or something like that
[09:55] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: do I have to have ssh on the client too
[09:55] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: deal. thanx
[09:55] <TLE> ups devilspie !
[09:56] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, yes, you need an ssh client (putty is used mostly on windows (single exe, no install))
[09:56] <ProN00b> and ssh clients are preinstalled on most linux boxes
[09:56] <noi2> anybody knows about the Gdisk utility that allows you to use your gmail as a hard disk?
[09:56] <[sam] > anyone have orded ubuntu cd online?
[09:56] <chamo> hello
[09:56] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: ok so most clients are preinstalled so then i just need to figure out what password is on the server box, it doesnt ask for a username, just password
[09:57] <blacktears> hey i got to root and i tried everything and it says that the package isnt there
[09:57] <alexi5> what are some free good  j2ee application servers
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: you put those hex values in your kernel config as vga=<blah>
[09:57] <blacktears> and its right on my desktop
[09:57] <noi2> I ordered the CD online, it comes in 2-3 weeks.
[09:57] <ProN00b> SurfnKid, with the linux client you do it like ssh username@hostname/ip
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: e.g. vga=0x305
[09:57] <Dial_tone> anyone having trouble getting on aim with gaim?
[09:57] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: ok
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: just make sure you don't replace your default kernel with it, just copy one of your kernel entries in the menu.lst file .. then you can try it, and if it doesn't work, just reboot and go back to the old menu entry
[09:58] <blacktears> can anyone help me out?
[09:58] <Dial_tone> no
[09:58] <KuLover> My motherboard has faild, when I replace it, will Ubuntu detect the new hard drive contoller drivers?
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: add it to the end of the "kernel" line
[09:58] <ulaas> Samus_Aran: you are the man. ;)
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> KuLover: affirmative
[09:58] <alexi5> has anyone here worked with the java j2ee
[09:58] <Rambo3> KuLover: maby it tests every driver anyhow
[09:59] <KuLover> Samus_Aran, is there anything else I should be aware of when switching motherboards?
[09:59] <earthen> blacktears, you nay have to update your sources.list if you can't find and package that you know should be there
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> ulaas: various graphics cards and monitors/screens will support various other modes than those standard ones.  you can just experiment with other numbers and see what comes up
[09:59] <gizmo_the_great1> Im trying to determine what these errors relate to that I get at the end of dmesg : APIC error on CPU0: 0c(0c)
[09:59] <gizmo_the_great1> any ideas
[09:59] <blacktears> hey they said that i needed to be root
[09:59] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: doesnt let me, (ssh klormexor@H5N1/10.0.0.2) Name or service not known
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> KuLover: hold one hand on your case so you discharge the static electricity into the ground safely, and don't fry your CPU ?
[10:00] <ProN00b> ooh, SurfnKid sorry, i meant either the hostname or the ip
[10:00] <ProN00b> not both
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> gizmo_the_great1: disable APIC in the kernel
[10:00] <KuLover> Samus_Aran, haha.. very funny ><
[10:00] <gizmo_the_great1> Samus_Aran: how do I do that?
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> gizmo_the_great1: and/or in the BIOS
[10:01] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: i got it
[10:01] <earthen> blacktears, well you need to be root to install the packages, but if you cannot find the package then that is anothe problem
[10:01] <ProN00b> anyone know how i can change my systems localization ?
[10:01] <Samus_Aran> gizmo_the_great1: the 6.06 kernel spit out a few pages of APIC errors for me, so I just disabled it in my BIOS
[10:01] <ProN00b> like something like en-au to en-gb
[10:01] <gizmo_the_great1> Samus_Aran: do you know what the error actually means? Could it be the reason my PC keeps turning itself off?
[10:01] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: its the server user @ server hostname/ip
[10:01] <Samus_Aran> KuLover: it will be a painless transition
[10:01] <SurfnKid> ProN00b: thx
[10:01] <a_l_e_> no chances. now with initrd defined i get to a emergency shell. what is very strang is, that it doesn't always stop at the same place.
[10:01] <Rambo3> http://www.mega-tokyo.com/osfaq/Tell%20me%20about%20APIC
[10:01] <blacktears> okay what i did was click the package and say open with terminal then i went root and dpkg -i to install
[10:02] <ProN00b> np, Sukre^n_Pudre
[10:02] <jhenn> what do i have to change in inittab to stop graphical screen at bootup?
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> KuLover: a modular kernel like Ubuntu's will just load any modules that are needed.  you won't notice even a blip
[10:02] <earthen> blacktears, you most likely need to update you /etc/apt/sources.list file to add other package sources
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> KuLover: unless you are changing CPU architecture you don't need to worry about it
[10:02] <blacktears> how would i do that?
[10:02] <KuLover> Samus_Aran Thanks a bunch, I appreciate your help :)
[10:02] <Dial_tone> jhenn:  I believe you make 3 the default runlevel
[10:02] <earthen> blacktears, ok what are you trying to install BTW?
[10:02] <blacktears> build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:03] <earthen> blacktears, I just got here so..
[10:03] <blacktears> so what?
[10:03] <ProN00b> anyone know how i can change my systems language ?
[10:03] <brandon> how can i change my display manager from gdm to kdm?
[10:03] <roryy> jhenn: disable the gdm service (don't change the default runlevel; that won't help on debian/ubuntu systems)
[10:04] <earthen> blacktears, ok one sec I'll check where it is located
[10:04] <roryy> brandon: this is a bit of a guess: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'
[10:04] <sloncho> hi guys. someone installed ivtv on DD? I'm following the mythtv instructions, but when I install my card firmware, the tutorial says that I have to move some firmware file to /lib/hotplug/firmware, and there is no /lib/hotplug directory in DD
[10:04] <blacktears> what do you mean?
[10:05] <jarle_> What is the command to start firefox in fullscreen?
[10:05] <NET||abuse> hi all.. i have a buffalo cb wireless card, g54s, it's bcm 4306 chipset according to lspci..
[10:06] <cappiz> yeah?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx
[10:06] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[10:07] <blacktears> earthen, whats goingon
[10:07] <earthen> blacktears, I was looking to see if I could find it but I cannot
[10:07] <jarle_> What is the command to start firefox in fullscreen? "firefox --fullscreen - or somthing like that?
[10:07] <blacktears> its on the ubuntu website
[10:08] <blacktears> its supposed to contain a compiler that i can use to run .tar.gz files
[10:08] <blacktears> thats how this all started
[10:08] <edlang> sheesh. no one here has built wine on amd64? I fail to believe that.
[10:08] <coldasfire06> hello peeps
[10:08] <earthen> blacktears, LOL ok so you just want to unzip the fils or what?
[10:08] <billybennett> restart required?!?!?!
[10:08] <coldasfire06> is anybody here familiar with a blackbox compilation?
[10:09] <blacktears> well i wanted to run autoscan 0.99
[10:09] <coldasfire06> or does anybody here knows a blackbox channel?
[10:09] <blacktears> and i need to know how to run it
[10:09] <Madpilot> blacktears, what is autoscan?
[10:10] <blacktears> its a program that monitors the network
[10:10] <earthen> Madpilot, blacktears I was gonn aask the same thing
[10:10] <Madpilot> blacktears, there are apps in Ubuntu's repos that do that - what sort of monitoring?
[10:10] <earthen> blacktears, what do oyu want to do sniff packets?
[10:11] <blacktears> well it monitors the users and everything, on my home network
[10:11] <blacktears> anyway
[10:11] <blacktears> the file is unzipped and i need to know where to go from there
[10:12] <Madpilot> blacktears, the easiest way to install stuff is from repos - if you clarify what you want, someone here can help you find an app that's easier to install...
[10:13] <earthen> blacktears, I not sure as i've never installed that but like Madpilot  said there are built packeges that can do that that you can apt-get to do that
[10:13] <blacktears> hey go to linux online and go to applications and network tools and youll find autoscan
[10:13] <earthen> Madpilot, I'll let you take this question over as I don't know good luck
[10:14] <jooozek> siema
[10:14] <cat> hey i have a question, how can i get my wireless card working on my laptop on the livecd was working fine,
[10:14] <jooozek> tfu
[10:14] <cat> but i want to get it working
[10:14] <Madpilot> blacktears, go System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager, use the search button to look for network monitoring - there's lots of apps
[10:15] <aujordanh> cat: what kind of card?
[10:15] <blacktears> ok
[10:15] <cat> 0000:07:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Intersil ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette]  (rev 01)
[10:15] <cat> i believed is that one
[10:16] <coldasfire06> anybody here familiar with iconv?
[10:16] <cat> i believed is that one
[10:17] <blacktears> thanks alot guys
[10:17] <Stormx2> Where is the default icon set stored?
[10:17] <ompaul> ProN00b it gets worse bug in grip - solved
[10:17] <cat> aujordanh, any ideas?
[10:17] <peteza> hi is there any way I can run unbuntu without loads a display manager?
[10:18] <peteza> hi is there any way I can run unbuntu without loading a display manager?*
[10:18] <kaiman_mxl> Hi, I need some help installing a printer queue
[10:18] <coldasfire06> no body here knows about iconv?
[10:18] <NET||abuse> just reading up on that bcm43xx wiki entry, it's talking about the apple wifi card.. is that any different?
[10:18] <wubrgamer> hey guys which is the best file system for a daily users ? ext3, jfs, xfs, reiserfs, or something else ?
[10:18] <Stormx2> wubrgamer: ext3
[10:18] <krazykit> wubrgamer: ext3
[10:18] <wubrgamer> why ?
[10:18] <Madpilot> wubrgamer, ext3 is Ubuntu's default
[10:18] <Stormx2> ooh snap!
[10:18] <roryy> coldasfire06: try asking a specific question
[10:18] <wubrgamer> what are the differences ?
[10:19] <Stormx2> Where is the default icon set stored?
[10:19] <krazykit> wubrgamer: ext3 is the tried and true filesystem.  it's damn stable, and has a good fsck.
[10:19] <krazykit> jfs and xfs are really meant for servers, wubrgamer
[10:20] <testingthis> Hi! im a new user to ubuntu.. Where can i find a good ftp program?
[10:20] <Dial_tone> how can I tell nautilus or whatever to not prompt when i insert a blank disk?
[10:20] <dli> wubrgamer, jfs is good for desktop
[10:20] <Dial_tone> testingthis: gftp
[10:20] <krazykit> testingthis: comes built in!  gftp
[10:20] <stealth1> hi, im new to linux..i recently installed dapper on my compaq laptop and i cannot get the tv-out to work (i.e. when pressing FN-F4 nothing happens).  can anyone help me out with this? tks
[10:20] <testingthis> ahh
[10:20] <testingthis> nice
[10:20] <coldasfire06> anybody here knows how to make the blacbox compilation recognize that  iconv is installed on the system?
[10:21] <armedking> Anyone know what frontend the kicker applet "Public file server" uses in KDE cause i want the same in gnome.
[10:21] <dli> testingthis, lftp is a good cli ftp client
[10:21] <krazykit> stealth1: intel chip?
[10:21] <brandon> how can i get x to automatically start? it turned that feature off, and now i want to reactivate it. is it in xorg.conf somewhere?
[10:21] <krazykit> stealth1: intel graphics, that is
[10:21] <graveson> anyone know where i can find the the xine plugin for vdr
[10:21] <Dial_tone> you're welcome
[10:21] <stealth1> ati mobility 9200
[10:21] <dli> brandon, update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[10:21] <krazykit> stealth1: oh.  i have a newer compaq, and my x server crashes when i try to do tv-out with the button
[10:21] <ipfw> anyone use Azureus ?
[10:22] <peteza> is there any way to start Ubuntu with just a command prompt?
[10:22] <dli> petej, update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:22] <Niklas_E> if you try to boot from the cd to try to install ubuntu, tried vga, 1024x768, 1280x1024 and safe grafic card, none works, I get "no signal", even tried 640x480, got any ideas what to do?
[10:22] <peteza> and how to I upt ut back if I chnage my mind? :-)
[10:22] <armedking> peteza: Yes there is
[10:23] <brandon> dli: says gdm is already supposed to start automatically
[10:23] <armedking> peteza: When at promt login using your account details and then type "startx"
[10:23] <brandon> dli: it'snot gdm or kdm, it's x
[10:23] <NET||abuse> gdm starts the x server with a gnome session
[10:24] <biaf> can i add wirless support via the gui somewhere
[10:24] <peteza> Ok... I'll give that a shot thanks...
[10:24] <hangfire> I thought x was the windows gui
[10:25] <peteza> I'm running a webserver and dont see the point in having a UI slowing me down
[10:25] <dli> biaf, which card?
[10:25] <hanasaki> running 6.06 and gnome... when i click logout on the panel.. it no longer gives the option to save the layout
[10:26] <redeye> hi
[10:26] <biaf> its the usb inventra , from the wanadoo system
[10:26] <redeye> i got a question concerning the safe boot mode
[10:26] <Madpilot> hanasaki, that's a "feature" of the new (garbage) logout window :|
[10:27] <peteza> Will the command-> update-rc.d -f gdm add <- work later on?
[10:27] <sewoyl> !dvd
[10:27] <ubotu> sewoyl: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <redeye> how can i change the default user ( on my comp its root without pw) or at least set a pw?
[10:27] <hanasaki> Madpilot: ? eh?
[10:28] <Stormx2> How do I run a different GTK engine?
[10:28] <roryy> redeye: i believe you can set a password on grub
[10:28] <Madpilot> hanasaki, the missing "Save layout" checkbox - it was deliberately removed from 6.06's logout dialogue
[10:28] <Jowi> redeye: define "default user"
[10:28] <redeye> ok thx
[10:28] <redeye> a lot
[10:28] <hanasaki> Madpilot: what!? why
[10:29] <Stormx2> How do I run a different GTK2 engine?
[10:29] <Madpilot> hanasaki, no idea - give me a sec, I'll see if there's a bug filed complaining about it. If not, start one ;)
[10:29] <hanasaki> any way to reenable?
[10:29] <hanasaki> it showed up Madpilot when i first installed 6.06 some update killed it
[10:30] <Madpilot> hanasaki, there might be a way to go back to the stock Gnome logout, instead of Ubuntu's customized one
[10:30] <Jowi> Stormx2: it's automatic when you select the corresponding theme (if the engine is installed)
[10:30] <biaf> dli : i mean inventel
[10:30] <hanasaki> i like the ubuntu.. except for no save layout
[10:30] <dli> biaf, what's in lsusb ?
[10:31] <biaf> dli : is that a folder in etc?
[10:31] <Stormx2> Jowi: I installed a .deb of it
[10:31] <Stormx2> Jowi: And I don't see the theme :(
[10:32] <Jowi> Stormx2: it must be in either /usr/share/themes or in /home/username/.themes
[10:33] <Anderson> How do you check your local mail?
[10:33] <Jowi> Stormx2: if you have the engine you need the theme as well and vice versa
[10:33] <Anderson> From the terminal
[10:33] <Jowi> Anderson: mutt
[10:33] <Cripps> w00t
[10:33] <Anderson> command not found
[10:34] <amee2k> what package contains the man pages for glibc functions?  (it is NOT glibc-doc - that one only contains pthreads man pages, HTML handbook and info stuff)
[10:34] <Jowi> !info mutt
[10:34] <blacktears> dude i installed xpkg to get soe programs i wanted and it says my root password authentication failed
[10:34] <ubotu> mutt: (Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, PGP and threading), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.5.11-3ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 885 kB, Installed size: 4692 kB
[10:34] <blacktears> *some
[10:34] <redrocco> can someone tell me4 how to get gnome to run? I just installed unbuntu this morning and all I get is a command line :/
[10:34] <cat> hey i have a question, how can i get my wireless card working on my laptop on the livecd was working fine,
[10:34] <Jowi> Anderson: sudo apt-get install mutt
[10:34] <blacktears> how do you find out root password
[10:34] <detox332> quick question...im installing the flashplugin-nonfree, but its just hanging up after setting u
[10:34] <blacktears> please
[10:34] <cat> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:34] <cat> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:34] <cat> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[10:34] <detox332> setting up*
[10:34] <cat> and now i get that error
[10:34] <amee2k> O.o
[10:34] <KyoLptp`> Does the rescue mode on the install CD write anything to the hard drive?
[10:34] <Jowi> blacktears: root is disabled
[10:35] <Jowi> ubotu: tell blacktears about root
[10:35] <KyoLptp`> Cause I only want to back up the mbr, not actually install linux (on my PC)
[10:35] <cat> anyone knows about that error
[10:35] <Anderson> Thanks
[10:35] <Anderson> I'll work on this for a while.
[10:35] <redrocco> can someone tell me4 how to get gnome to run? I just installed unbuntu this morning and all I get is a command line :/
[10:35] <blacktears> what is ubotu by the way
[10:35] <Stormx2>    /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines
[10:35] <jtj> can someoen help me help detox
[10:36] <dli> redrocco, login, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <jtj> that happened to me and i fixed it but i need someone to make sure i get the solution right
[10:36] <redrocco> ty
[10:36] <cat> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[10:36] <hanasaki> Madpilot: you find that bug?
[10:36] <redrocco> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
 that happened to me and i fixed it but i need someone
[10:36] <redrocco> sorry
[10:36] <cat> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:36] <Madpilot> hanasaki, no, it doesn't seem to be filed - have a look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:37] <cat> anyone know how i can fixed this
[10:37] <hanasaki> i never oepn them right lol
[10:37] <jtj> detox you want me to say what i did and take my solution under advisement
[10:37] <cat> please
[10:37] <cat> anyone help me
[10:38] <SurfnKid> everyone can help
[10:38] <detox332> sure
[10:38] <detox332> any help would be great
[10:38] <aerojava> hi...someone know a good site for downloading accesories for Gnome?
[10:38] <cat> i just pasted it my error
[10:38] <cat> the apt isn't working at all
[10:38] <jtj> ok sec ill open terminal and back up to command
[10:38] <SurfnKid> cat whats it doing
[10:38] <dli> aergern, what do you need? use synaptic or apt to install packages
[10:38] <Miles_Prower> Hello there
[10:39] <detox332> www.gnome-look.org
[10:39] <SurfnKid> cat you get an error or cant connect?
[10:39] <Jowi> aerojava: art.gnome.org for themes, www.gnomefiles.org for apps
[10:39] <cat> nope
[10:39] <cat> i get this error
[10:39] <cat> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <jtj> detox sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[10:39] <cat> that error i get
[10:39] <aerojava> thank you jovi
[10:39] <hanasaki> Madpilot:  what package woudl that be in?
[10:39] <SurfnKid> cat not sure on there ask the experts
[10:39] <detox332> ok removed
[10:39] <Madpilot> hanasaki, not sure - just a sec
[10:40] <Miles_Prower> I'd need some quick help with fstab > i'd like to bind /media/ush-hdd to a folder in my home (/home/miles/usb-hdd)
[10:40] <Miles_Prower> How should i do that ?
[10:40] <amnezia> hi. how can I tell network-manager to use my wlan interface? only my eth0 is managed via nm
[10:40] <testingthis> where can i find gftp in ubuntu?
[10:40] <amnezia> testingthis:  maybe in universe
[10:40] <detox332> sudo apt-get install gftp
[10:40] <Jowi> Miles_Prower: with the "ln" (link) command
[10:40] <jtj> detox ok then i went to synaptic and highlighted flashgetplugin and it asked if i wanted to remove 1 part of installation or words to that effect i removed it then i chose to install it
[10:40] <Madpilot> hanasaki, might be GDM? Leave it blank if you're not sure, or use GDM - it's easy enough for someone to change later
[10:41] <Miles_Prower> Jowi, what would the line to add look like?
[10:41] <Miles_Prower> (I'n new to Linux, too.)
[10:41] <jtj> detox i think the prob is there is a part of it which hangs in the installer so you need to remove that after you've run tht -r command
[10:41] <Jowi> Miles_Prower: ln -s target directory (for a symbolic link)
[10:41] <redrocco> I get a couldnt find package unbuntu desktop error
[10:41] <KyoLptp`> Ok, I'll try again: Will the Ubuntu Install Disk attempt to install anything to my hard drive if I start it in Rescue mode? I don't want to install linux; just back up the MBR to prepare to try out Vista beta 2.
[10:42] <Miles_Prower> With ln I have errors while sharing this folder using SAMBA
[10:42] <detox332> i dont have a flashgetplugin
[10:42] <steri> anyone know how I install flashp 8 on ubuntu?
[10:42] <Miles_Prower> I'd like to try mounting the HDD in another location to solve those
[10:43] <Miles_Prower> (User rights related errors - for some reasons, SAMBA asks me for a password which I don't have)
[10:43] <jtj> detox corretcion the flashplugin-nonfree, its the program trying to install, sorry my mistake
[10:43] <detox332> oh ok, i thought maybe that was something else
[10:43] <ube> is there a way to recover root password?
[10:44] <aerojava> There are a page in Spanish that talks about recovering root password
[10:44] <Miles_Prower> How can I restart fstab?
[10:45] <cat> how can you get a wireless card for a laptop working on ubuntu?
[10:45] <detox332> im not getting any option
[10:45] <detox332> to remove that extra part or whatever
[10:45] <raphink> Miles_Prower: you mean mount all the volumes listed on fstab ?
[10:46] <xfade> hi all, can anyone help, im trying to apt-get install apache. I get subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:46] <Miles_Prower> Yeap
[10:46] <Miles_Prower> Without rebooting
[10:46] <raphink> Miles_Prower: sudo mount -a
[10:46] <Miles_Prower> thanks
[10:46] <jtj> detox if you select it as if you wanted to downoload it, there isn't an option mark for complete removal?
[10:46] <Bassetts> can anyone help me with screen
[10:46] <raphink> Miles_Prower: /!\ this will attempt to mount all the volumes, but to unmoutn the ones that are not in fstab
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: what about it ?
[10:47] <icefeldt> what do i have to add to the smb.conf to make a share accessable for everyone in the network, so that they do not have to enter a user and passwor?
[10:47] <raphink> Bassetts: what's the issue?
[10:47] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: how do i close a screen, theres 2 running
[10:47] <dtrinh> hiyo everybody! :D
[10:47] <raphink> Bassetts: get in it with screen -r then type exit ;)
[10:47] <detox332> yeah i did that, but then what do i do?
[10:47] <Bassetts> detox332:
[10:47] <raphink> if taht's the kind of screen you're talking about
[10:47] <Bassetts> There are screens on:
[10:47] <Bassetts>         23949.pts-1.server      (Attached)
[10:47] <Bassetts>         24025.pts-5.server      (Attached)
[10:47] <jtj> detox apply
[10:47] <xfade> i've had apache httpd installed on this system before, i may have messed up when unistalling although i used package manager to remove all and it still won't install again
[10:47] <Bassetts> *raphink:
[10:47] <raphink> Bassetts: get in one of them and exit
[10:47] <detox332> i did that
[10:48] <Bassetts> raphink: so screen -r then one of them names?
[10:48] <dtrinh> :/
[10:48] <jtj> detox ok well now i selected it for install and it installed ok
[10:48] <Miles_Prower> Now why the heck can only the "root" user access my external hdd?
[10:48] <raphink> Bassetts: I tink so, see man screen
[10:48] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: screen -list and then screen -r 24025.pts-5.server
[10:48] <Miles_Prower> The mount point is chmod 777
[10:48] <Bassetts> raphink: There is no screen to be resumed matching 23949.pts-1.server.
[10:48] <raphink> Bassetts: screen -r [[pid.] tty[.host] ] 
[10:48] <shapierian> the packages in ubuntu updates are coming in as not authenticated, how do i import the key?
[10:49] <Bassetts> h2sp: it wont let me resume either
[10:49] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[10:49] <sEbaKiLLeR> Argentia will be the world champion!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:49] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: it wont let me resume either
[10:49] <luuuciano> how can I live for ever?
[10:49] <luuuciano> oops, sorry, wrong channel
[10:49] <ube> kill yourself
[10:50] <kaiman_mxl> anybody who can help me???
[10:50] <DrewMarin> can somebody help me get free dvd playback
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: Were the other screens run as a different user ?
[10:50] <cat> how can you get a wireless card for a laptop working on ubuntu?
[10:50] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: what do you mean
[10:50] <cat> please help
[10:51] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: i.e started as root
[10:51] <tim_> hey all, anyone know why totem wouldn't be able to play .mov files but gxine would? totem doesn't have a problem with anything else i give it (deals with proprietary windows files fine)
[10:51] <ube> what am i supposed to do if i get a "kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown block"
[10:51] <xfade> anyone have any ideas on my apache problem?
[10:51] <kaiman_mxl> anybody who can help with lpadmin?
[10:51] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: im using ssh and i was running irssi with screen
[10:51] <detox332> jtj: ok it installed when i told it not to grab from internet, but when i ran update-flashplugin it seems to be hung up
[10:51] <Jowi> ubotu: tell DrewMarin about restricted
[10:51] <markl_> whenever i log in, i get a system notification icon saying my system needs to be restarted
[10:51] <markl_> any idea how to make it stop
[10:52] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: Why would you run 2 copies though ?
[10:52] <DrewMarin> thx
[10:52] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: its ok, i just kept typing exit till they all closed
[10:52] <Jowi> np Dreamglider
[10:52] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: it wasnt supposed to be
[10:52] <Jowi> np DrewMarin even
[10:52] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: can i put names to screens?
[10:53] <Jowi> brb
[10:53] <jtj> detox ok well that worked for me and a s i said im new so thats all i can do to help sorry, i ran that dpkg -r then removed completely from synaptics and then it installed ook
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: You can yes - either by from the first session using screen -t whatever name
[10:53] <detox332> jtj: ok thanks for your help
[10:53] <DrewMarin> this is the only pc with dvd and the dvd player is being used
[10:53] <Bassetts> thanks h3sp: ill try that
[10:53] <jtj> detox sure, hope you get it sorted
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: Or control a control A
[10:54] <jtj> cat have you checked the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking?action=show&redirect=WirelessNetworking
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: New screen is control a control c
[10:54] <Bassetts> im confused now
[10:54] <redeye> cat which card do u have?
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: control a w lists the running screens
[10:55] <Bassetts> ok
[10:55] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: how do i switch between screens?
[10:55] <iNiku> it doesn't really get confusing until you're running two or more screens nested :)
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> Basetts: control a and then the number (which is in control a w)
[10:55] <satino> I've been able to run xvid and avi files for a while, but suddenly yesterday vlc and totem won't play them anymore, anybody know what may couse this ?
[10:56] <larson9999> i'm searching for how to convert vcd to dvd and am having a hard time finding something that is understandable and relatively current.  in a line or two can anyone tell me the basic process to help me filter my search hits?  or a link to a step by step would be good, too.
[10:56] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I try to avoid that
[10:56] <icefeldt> what do i have to add to the smb.conf to make a share accessable for everyone in the network, so that they do not have to enter a user and passwor?
[10:56] <KyoLptp`> Hey, will the Ubuntu Install Disk attempt to install anything to my hard drive if I start it in Rescue mode? I don't want to install linux; just back up the MBR to prepare to try out Vista beta 2.
[10:56] <bullrage> is there a command to see what modules have been modprobed?
[10:57] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: how can i change from the screen i just opened back to the screen i opened it from?
[10:57] <kaiman_mxl> I need help with lpadmin
[10:57] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: me too, used to have to do it in the old days, though
[10:57] <roryy> bullrage: lsmod might be what you want
[10:57] <iNiku> Bassetts: C-a C-a to switch back and forth between the two last used screens
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: control a then w (and at the bottom of the screen it lists all the running screens)
[10:58] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: i mean from the screen i just opened to the screen i first get when i login through ssh
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: look at the bottom then find the number and do control a 0 (for example)
[10:58] <interferon> my gdm can only start failsafe sessions after upgrading to dapper.  anyone know what this might be about?
[10:58] <SurfnKid> guys how can i set up a proxy server on linux
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: The fist shell is not running screen
[10:59] <bullrage> roryy, thanks.
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: first sorry
[10:59] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: i knew that, i just did not know how to word it
[10:59] <Bassetts> h3sp4wn: how do i get from a screen back to the shell
[10:59] <iNiku> Bassetts: so you want to get out of screen? C-a C-d will "detach" the screen session and leave it running in the background
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> Bassetts: control a d (would detach the screen but keep it running
[10:59] <kaiman_mxl> pelase somebody answer, there's someone who can help me with LPADMIN?
[10:59] <iNiku> Bassetts: everything you started under screen will still be running, just invisibly
[10:59] <rem_> surfinkid .. try squid
[11:00] <Bassetts> cool, thanks iNiku and h3sp4wn
[11:00] <iNiku> screen -r (or screen -x) to get back to it
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> screen -x lets more than one person connect to it at once right ?
[11:00] <iNiku> I always use -x, lets me connect to the same screen from several terminals
[11:00] <DrewMarin> anybody know how I can get a app that plays dvd in linux totem-xine wont install and Mplayer isnt available in package list
[11:01] <NET||abuse> hmm, just got my wirless network card doing basic scans for networks.. is there any better tools for scanning network and getting details?
[11:01] <NET||abuse> i have heard names like kismet and netsnort?
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> NET||abuse: What do you mean like cracking networks ?
[11:01] <krazykit> NET||abuse: those are not for just basic scans.
[11:01] <sewoyl> oh I thought Beagle was in dapper ??
[11:02] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: yes, if they have the permissions. more useful is to just connect to your screen session from several terminals, either windows side by side or, say, from your home and work machines
[11:02] <NET||abuse> cracking. not really.. more like finding things like channel cross overs and things
[11:02] <NET||abuse> finding a clean bandwidth to run networks on etc..
[11:02] <NET||abuse> signal strenght readings etc..
[11:02] <speyer> who can help me with bluetooth on mobiles ?
[11:03] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: like, I always have irssi running under screen and I connect to the same screen from the laptop and desktop at home and from my work machine
[11:03] <dixie> i like dark night with open window and sitting at the terminal
[11:04] <Stormx2> Got rid of all the bulky gnome fonts and used pixelfonts and verdana at low sizes :D
[11:04] <Stormx2> *a million times more productive* xD
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I have used it before but I don't need it most of the time
[11:05] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: I use it all the time. also, for work stuff, I may have all my connections to the servers under screen, then have a bunch of terminals open side by side connected to the same screen but showing different "windows"
[11:06] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: that way the connections will stay there even if I lose network or put the laptop to sleep or whatever
[11:06] <noorms> hello all
[11:06] <graveson> anyone know where i can find the latest vdr packaged with the plugins
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I try not to have loads of connections to servers open (use ssh-agent) and can connect very quickly if I need to
[11:06] <noorms> how can I get firewire working on dapper ?
[11:06] <noorms> trying to connect to an xp computer over firewire
[11:07] <Sjoerd-> Hello all, I have a router that uses WPA encryption. The computer with Ubuntu has a Linksys WMP54G card, how do I use it with WPA?
[11:08] <amnezia> sjoerd:  best way would be to install network-manager I think
[11:08] <Sjoerd-> Ok thank you, let me google for that
[11:08] <amnezia> no google
[11:08] <amnezia> synaptic
[11:09] <amnezia> search for nm- and network-manager
[11:09] <jrib> DrewMarin: open a terminal: Applications > accessories > terminal and type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list        Then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and post the contents of the file that opens up
[11:09] <KinGnu> ppl can you please tell me how to install something that is in the desktop using the terminal????
[11:09] <noorms> amnezia - any ideas about firewire ?
[11:09] <amnezia> noorms:  not your kind of problem
[11:09] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: I often need to be running stuff on several servers at the same time, or looking at logs, or whatever... using screen and multiple xterms is very handy for that
[11:10] <amnezia> I used the raw1394 module for video grabbing
[11:10] <KyoLptp`> Lol, in this time I've tried searching the forums, but specifically, to no avail
[11:10] <jrib> KinGnu: what "something"?
[11:10] <KyoLptp`> So I'll just draw out my query over several lines.
[11:10] <Sjoerd-> amnezia: I can just install this networkmanager and then put my settings in it?
[11:11] <skavenge> anyone running a dell wireless wlan 1350 card? im wondering if this card is supported, since once i try and install if the net doesn't work i don't have any other way to connect for help/resources ..
[11:11] <DrewMarin> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15880
[11:11] <KinGnu> the w32 codecs
[11:11] <KyoLptp`> Ok, on my PC, I have two hard drives- the first one is 40 GB, the second is 120 GB
[11:11] <KyoLptp`> I only have Windows installed on said PC.
[11:11] <KyoLptp`> But, I'd like to try out Vista.
[11:11] <amnezia> sjoerd:  kinda. you'll have a new applet
[11:11] <Sjoerd-> can i install it with: sudo apt-get network-manager ?
[11:11] <amnezia> sjoerd:   as I said earlier
[11:12] <KyoLptp`> So I set aside a few gigs on the C drive to make room for it.
[11:12] <DrewMarin> KyoLptp: vista is not worth its download time I know I tried it
[11:12] <Tommy2k4> what packages must i install to be able to configure and make
[11:12] <jrib> DrewMarin: you've got mixed breezy and dapper repos.  Did you upgrade successfully?
[11:12] <Sjoerd-> Sorry I sometimes have no idea what things mean :)
[11:12] <alexi5> has anyone here ever had any bad performance with samba on dapper
[11:12] <DrewMarin> jrib: yea
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Tommy2k4: build-essential
[11:12] <KyoLptp`> However, I know that Vista tends to fubar your MBR. I also know that in the past, most problems I've had with computers in general have to do with the MBR.
[11:12] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: you are in the ubuntu support channel, not windows
[11:12] <KyoLptp`> I'm getting to it.
[11:12] <jrib> ubotu: tell DrewMarin about sources
[11:13] <lindztr> hi, ive got some real trouble with my x-server.
[11:13] <jrib> DrewMarin: replace your current sources.list with the one ubotu sent you for dapper
[11:13] <KyoLptp`> Hang on. I summarized this twice and received no response, lol.
[11:13] <alexi5> file transfers through samba are really slow with dapper, when i used breezy everything was really quick  until i replaced it with dapper
[11:13] <leafw> can anyone tell me why removing gaim asks to remove the entire ubuntu-desktop ???
[11:13] <Tommy2k4> thoreauputic, configure command not found
[11:13] <alexi5> how can i solve this
[11:13] <thoreauputic> leafw: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[11:13] <leafw> this is nonsense, gaim is only a (useless to me) IM app
[11:14] <Jowi> leafw: "ubuntu-desktop" is a meta package. it is safe to remove it as long as you have not planned any dist-upgrades
[11:14] <KyoLptp`> Anyway, I'd like to know how I can use the Ubuntu Dapper Drake Install or Live CD to back up the MBR, so that when I'm done trying out Vista, I can restore my computer to its original state.
[11:14] <leafw> thoreauputic : so, but removing ubuntu-desktop will remove a thousand things
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Tommy2k4: the configure script is in the source directory
[11:14] <amnezia> sjoerd:  make sure you comment out the lines in /etc/network/interfaces. you may need a reboot if things don't work right after that
[11:14] <leafw> Jowi : hum I see
[11:14] <krazykit> leafw: no, removing ubuntu-desktop shouldn't remove anything.
[11:14] <Tommy2k4> oo
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Tommy2k4: if there is no configure script, it won't be found :)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> leafw: no it won't
[11:15] <Tommy2k4> its there, how do i execute it from konsole
[11:15] <leafw> Jowi : so then dist-upgrades will fail, or will simply reinstall gaim?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Tommy2k4: ./configure
[11:15] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: "dd if=/dev/hdx of=MBR-backup bs=512 count=1" to backup the mbr
[11:15] <Tommy2k4> ty
[11:15] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i'm installing a package, and it's taking an abnormally long time to install
[11:15] <zenlunatic> where are fonts installed?
[11:15] <KyoLptp`> Ok, um
[11:15] <wubrgamer> should i just exit synaptic /
[11:15] <wubrgamer> ?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Tommy2k4: ./  means "right here in this directory"
[11:15] <wubrgamer> i don't want to install it anymore
[11:15] <KyoLptp`> How, exactly?
[11:15] <KyoLptp`> Do I use the Rescue mode on the Install CD?
[11:16] <Jowi> leafw: it will not fail but you might miss some important upgrades. if you need to dist-upgrade in the future, simply install "ubuntu-desktop" before performing a dist-upgrade
[11:16] <KyoLptp`> Boot into Linux Live? Gotta be specific.
[11:16] <Azi_Dahaka> hi
[11:16] <leafw> Jowi : I see, thank you
[11:16] <noorms> anyone have any ideas how to get firewire working on ubuntu ?
[11:16] <Tommy2k4> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:16] <wubrgamer> i'm getting this error now
[11:17] <lindztr> My X server wont start and i get some errors: (WW) NV: No matching Device selection for instance (BUS ID PCI:some numbers) found, then (EE) No device detected, then Fatal server error: no screens found: X10: fatal 10 error 104 (connection reset by peer on X server ":0.0" after request (0 known processed) with 0 events remaning
[11:17] <Azi_Dahaka> is the issue with the broadcomm wireless nic solved on dapper ?
[11:17] <wubrgamer> "dpkg was interuppted run dpkg --reconfigure  -a now"
[11:17] <DrewMarin> jrib: thx
[11:17] <wubrgamer> what should i do ? it's not letting me apt-ge
[11:17] <graveson> anyone know where i can find the latest vdr packaged with the plugins
[11:17] <jrib> DrewMarin: working now?
[11:18] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i'm installing a package, and it's taking an abnormally long time to install
[11:18] <hanasaki> amarok is only  picking up my flac not my mp3 files
[11:18] <wubrgamer> i don't want it installed anymore, how do i call it off mid apt-get ?
[11:18] <Tommy2k4> !mp3
[11:18] <jrib> ubotu: tell hanasaki about mp3
[11:18] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:18] <DrewMarin> jrib: about to check mplayer to see if it will play my dvd
[11:18] <hanasaki> jrib: already did that
[11:18] <thoreauputic> hanasaki: try installing libxine-extracodecs
[11:19] <hanasaki> already did that. .thats not the issue
[11:19] <Jowi> wubrgamer: i got that just now. the solution was to "sudo scrollkeeper-rebuilddb -v", let it run (will take 5-10 minutes) and then do the install
[11:19] <Azi_Dahaka> ubotu, help
[11:19] <sewoyl> sjoerd
[11:19] <DrewMarin> jrib: yes it does
[11:19] <wubrgamer> ?
[11:19] <wubrgamer> it's still configureing
[11:19] <wubrgamer> aack
[11:19] <hanasaki> the problem is that amarok only sees the flac files so thats what it is puting on my ipod.. i also have mp3 files in there
[11:19] <jrib> DrewMarin: great
[11:19] <alexi5> can anyone help me
[11:19] <DrewMarin> jrib: Im so glad I also have linux now
[11:19] <Jowi> wubrgamer: ctrl-c to stop it. then run the scrollkeeper command. then "apt-get remove" it
[11:19] <wubrgamer> can you pm me what to do, i'm in the middle of dpkg --configure -a right now, please......................i just want to stop the install of flashplugin-nonfree
[11:20] <skavenge> checking the  hardware support page, my wireless card (dell 1350) says its not supported out of box and needs ndiswrapper+bcmwl5a.inf .. when i click on the link for the install instructions, it says the page is not there, can anyone point me to the correct link on this?
[11:20] <jtj> wubrgamer that is a problem
[11:20] <genus> hi, does anybody have any recommendations for a data recovery program?
[11:20] <KyoLptp`> Lol, wow.
[11:20] <jtj> wubr sudo dpkg -r flashplugin-noonfree
[11:20] <shirow> i'm having a strange problem with ubuntu. whenever i click the 'change icon' icon in the properties of a shortcut on the launcher panel, it opens the 'change icon' screen for a split second and then it closes without any error
[11:20] <skonk1> Is there any ActiveSync like app for ubuntu/linux to connect to pda/mobile devices?
[11:20] <shirow> does anyone know why?
[11:20] <anarcat> hullo
[11:20] <KyoLptp`> I finally get a bit of help, but it's a tad too vague.
[11:21] <anarcat> have a X11 problem here after upgrade from breezy do dapper
[11:21] <KyoLptp`> I'd assume the seemingly most likely way to use said help
[11:21] <DuniaImpian> how to setup ubuntu so it start program such as gaim and skype at start up? thx
[11:21] <anarcat> the usb mouse isn't detect by X and it craps out with "no core pointer" thing...
[11:21] <wubrgamer> thank you guys
[11:21] <wubrgamer> what is the scrollkeeper command again ?
[11:21] <KyoLptp`> But *every* single time I assume something in regards to Linux, it ends up biting me in the ass.
[11:21] <skavenge> hah
[11:21] <jrib> DuniaImpian: system > preferences > sessiosn > startup
[11:21] <KyoLptp`> So, Jowi, can you *please* be as specific as possible with this?
[11:21] <genus> so what should I use for data recovery?
[11:22] <lindztr> My X server wont start and i get some errors: (WW) NV: No matching Device selection for instance (BUS ID PCI:some numbers) found, then (EE) No device detected, then Fatal server error: no screens found: X10: fatal 10 error 104 (connection reset by peer on X server ":0.0" after request (0 known processed) with 0 events remaning, is there anyway to fix my x server or do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[11:22] <shirow> lindztr: what graphics card do you have
[11:22] <krazykit> isn't kill -9 supposed to flat-out kill any process?
[11:22] <DuniaImpian> jrib, thx
[11:22] <Blissex> lindztr: chekc that your graphics card has got that bus id
[11:22] <lindztr> shirow, an nvidia 6600GT
[11:22] <aurelius> ...installed dapper...downloaded & installed nvidia driver...ran the setup...says it was successful...get an x server error saying it couldnt find module nvidia...help?  do i need a modulepath statement?
[11:22] <thoreauputic> krazykit: assuming you own it
[11:23] <shirow> lindztr: do lspci and check the bus ID of your card
[11:23] <krazykit> thoreauputic: well, yeah, of course.
[11:23] <shirow> then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:23] <thoreauputic> krazykit: else use sudo kill -9
[11:23] <shirow> and make sure the bus id matches
[11:23] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: step by step instructions ---> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[11:23] <lindztr> Blissex, otherwise how do i change it?
[11:23] <wubrgamer> what is the scrollkeeper command again ?
[11:23] <jtj> wubr im a complete new but tht happened with me this eve i went to synaptics and completely removed and then i was able to install it ok
[11:24] <jtj> wubr i mean tht flashplugin prob
[11:24] <mauran> Hi all, any scim users here?
[11:24] <KyoLptp`> See, here's the thing
[11:24] <Blissex> lindztr: otherwise just remove the BusID line from '/etc/X11/xorg.conf', it is almost always useless (unless you have two header setup)
[11:24] <Tommy2k4> how do i unzip a file
[11:24] <KyoLptp`> I don't know EXACTLY what to do with that.
[11:24] <lindztr> Blissex and Shirow, thanks.
[11:24] <KyoLptp`> Do I put that in a terminal?
[11:24] <genus> .zip/.rar are both for windows
[11:24] <aurelius> Tommy2k4 tar -xzvf (file) works fo me
[11:25] <Tommy2k4> k
[11:25] <genus> er guess not
[11:25] <KyoLptp`> If so, exactly how do I access said terminal?
[11:25] <genus> I thought that you would have to get a tarball
[11:25] <skavenge> checking the  hardware support page, my wireless card (dell 1350) says its not supported out of box and needs ndiswrapper+bcmwl5a.inf .. when i click on the link for the install instructions, it says the page is not there, can anyone point me to the correct link on this?
[11:25] <Tommy2k4> well im hoping it works
[11:25] <thoreauputic> !tell aurelius about nvidia
[11:25] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: you should have a terminal in a menu on the live cd. I never used the live cd so I can't help you there
[11:26] <KyoLptp`> Ok, I'll try it.
[11:26] <rem_> hey.. Does anyone know how to configure synaptic through a proxy WITH Authentification (I managed in the command line, but not in synaptic ..) ??
[11:26] <mauran> after installing scim-m17n input method, its not showing up in scim-setup
[11:26] <larson9999> the live cd doesn't work on one of my 2 machines'
[11:26] <genus> does anybody have any suggestions for a data recovery program?
[11:26] <mauran> how can I get scim m17n work?
[11:26] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: otherwise the windows install cd should have a failsafe/repair mode that you can use the "fixmbr" command with
[11:26] <KyoLptp`> no
[11:26] <Tommy2k4> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:26] <KyoLptp`> fixmbr doesn't work
[11:26] <Tommy2k4> whats package name for qt?
[11:26] <krazykit> Tommy2k4: you need the -dev package
[11:27] <KyoLptp`> there have been at least 3 occasions during which it was supposed to
[11:27] <Tommy2k4> qt-dev?
[11:27] <KyoLptp`> but it did not
[11:27] <rem_> ..and hwy did they changed to not go trhough apt.conf in dapper `?? it was wokring fine b4 !
[11:27] <krazykit> Tommy2k4: maybe?  i dunno.
[11:27] <anarcat_> (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
[11:27] <anarcat_> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mouse
[11:27] <anarcat_> (II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
[11:27] <KyoLptp`> each occasion resulted in the complete decimation of all my data
[11:27] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: how nice I don't use Windows then :)
[11:27] <Tommy2k4> nope its not :(
[11:27] <anarcat_> xserver-xorg-input-mouse is installed, so i don't get it\
[11:27] <rem_> hey.. Does anyone know how to configure synaptic through a proxy WITH Authentification (I managed in the command line, but not in synaptic ..) ??
[11:27] <Jowi> anarcat: did you compile your own kernel?
[11:28] <mitja> Hello, I'm stuck in console, init 2 and kde won't start. It is due changing permissions on several directories. Does anyone know what should I do?
[11:28] <Tommy2k4> whats the package name for qt dev files
[11:28] <KyoLptp`> I don't see any terminal option on the live cd menu
[11:28] <Stormx2> mitja: Change the permissions back?
[11:28] <anarcat_> Jowi: no
[11:28] <higen> who is maintaining the Anjuta package in ubuntu? 1.2 seems rather old to me..
[11:28] <higen> Rob Bradford according to the package.. a debian guy..
[11:28] <higen> how can it be updated?
[11:29] <Stormx2> higen: Contact him?
[11:29] <mitja> Stormx2: yeah, I did some, but don't exactly know what all of them should be.
[11:29] <higen> Stormx2: good idea.. :)
[11:29] <Flannel> higen: what's the current version?
[11:29] <Stormx2> mitja: What permissions did you change?
[11:29] <anarcat_> i suspect that the xorg.conf config file is stupid/lacking something
[11:29] <mitja> Stormx2: all of them
[11:29] <mitja> I mounted it somewhere else
[11:29] <genus> does anybody have any suggestions for a data recovery program?
[11:29] <mauran> if anyone knows about scim-m17n, please come to privete chat
[11:29] <noorms> anyone have any ideas how to get firewire working on ubuntu ?
[11:29] <Stormx2> mitja: You changed every directory's permissions?!
[11:29] <Jowi> anarcat: oh. i know the mouse module can fail if you compile it into the kernel instead of using it as a module... ummmm.... try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and use /dev/input/mice as the mouse device maybe?
[11:29] <mitja> Stormx2: yeah
[11:29] <Stormx2> mitja: To?
[11:30] <Stormx2> mitja: Please don't say 777 ;_;
[11:30] <mitja> Stormx2: root 0755
[11:30] <Flannel> higen: 1.2.4 is the current stable release.
[11:30] <Stormx2> mitja: Thats awefully silly... and I don't know what to do really
[11:30] <higen> Flannel: correct.. but ubuntu isnt known for always having stable releases
[11:30] <anarcat_> Jowi: /dev/input/mice is already the core pointer..
[11:30] <anarcat_> i'll try dpkg-reconfigure
[11:31] <mitja> Stormx2: some function in recovery mode perhaps?
[11:31] <Flannel> higen: eh? what?  the package in the repos is 1.2.4
[11:31] <mitja> Stormx2: or a repair CD?
[11:31] <Stormx2> mitja: I don't know man. I haven't got a clue.
[11:31] <skonk1> Is there any linuxprinting-default driver? I cannot find any linux driver for my Canon Pixma MP500.
[11:31] <genus> does anybody have any suggestions for a data recovery program?
[11:32] <Stormx2> Someone help mitja, he has changed all the permissions in his FS and wants to revert em all.
[11:32] <mitja> Stormx2: ok
[11:32] <Stormx2> genus: Not sure... let me run a search
[11:32] <ompaul> mitja, back up your personal files with the use of a live cd and reinstall
[11:32] <higen> Flannel: there are unstable at 2.0.x
[11:32] <alexi5> hi
[11:32] <ompaul> mitja, too many files too many permissions
[11:32] <alexi5> when i upgraded to dapper from breezy my samba file transfer speed decreased drastically
[11:32] <higen> 2.0.2 seems to be the latest
[11:33] <Sapote> anybody know pdf location of this guide http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/es/index.html  ??
[11:33] <alexi5> what could be the cause of this
[11:33] <EnterUserName> hi
[11:33] <dibblego> why don't I see a "Suspend" option in the shutdown dialog?
[11:33] <EnterUserName> I need to modify the optiosn that bttv starts with
[11:33] <EnterUserName> so it runs the right tuner
[11:33] <dooglus> alexi5: mine too.  switching from cifs to smbfs fixed it for me.
[11:33] <Locust|> Hello! I just tried to upgrade Breezy up to Dapper Drake, it seemed everything went okay until I rebooted, from there, the screen flashes a few times then I get a dialog stating that there is a problem starting X and asks me would I like to diagnose the problem. At that point, the computer freezes and I'm unable to select an option. How can I fix this?
[11:33] <higen> Flannel: anyway... i will maybe mail him.. you cant help me here anyway :)..
[11:33] <EnterUserName> Whats the equivalnt to modprobe.conf?
[11:33] <EnterUserName> for ubuntu
[11:33] <alexi5> dooglus:how do i do that switch
[11:33] <Jowi> Locust|: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:34] <EnterUserName> hello?
[11:34] <dooglus> alexi5: I was mounting the windows share - are you?
[11:34] <EnterUserName> Can someone help me where to modify the modules field
[11:34] <Flannel> higen: I don't know what you're going to mail him about, the package is up to date.
[11:34] <Locust|> Jowi: Where would I do that at? I don't get any terminal prompts.
[11:34] <alexi5> dooglus:i was trying to acces a windows folder through nautilus
[11:34] <dooglus> alexi5: hmm.  I don't know much about nautilus, sorry.
[11:35] <Jowi> Locust|: if you can not press [ctrl-alt-f1]  and get a prompt, try to select the rescue mode in grub boot menu
[11:35] <anarcat_> bleh
[11:35] <dooglus> alexi5: I do this: sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=chris //server/d /mnt/server
[11:35] <anarcat_> Jowi: dpkg-reconfigure didn't cut it
[11:35] <anarcat_> there's no ModulePath in the xorg.conf
[11:35] <Jowi> anarcat: what kind of mouse do you have?=
[11:35] <alexi5> dooglus: ok
[11:35] <dooglus> alexi5: I used to do "-t cifs", but that became slow when I switched to dapper
[11:35] <EnterUserName> hi
[11:36] <EnterUserName> wher ecan i modify the modules
[11:36] <EnterUserName> please help :(
[11:36] <dibblego> dooglus alexi5: I use that command too, but I get caught out if the password contains odd characters - use quotes
[11:36] <serja> hi
[11:36] <alexi5> ok
[11:36] <Locust|> Jowi: Alright, I'll try that. Thanks for your help. :)
[11:36] <samy> hey everybody
[11:36] <Jowi> anarcat: there is no need for a ModulePath in xorg.conf
[11:36] <serja> I have trouble with my ATI card
[11:36] <anarcat_> Jowi: some random usb mouse
[11:36] <dooglus> dibblego: single quotes are more powerful than double ones for quoting stuff
[11:36] <anarcat_> Jowi: okay... but the module is out there
[11:37] <anarcat_> and it's telling me it can't find it
[11:37] <serja> I wonder if anyone could help me
[11:37] <Tommy2k4> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[11:37] <Tommy2k4> soop, check this please and use another prefix!
[11:37] <your_mom> i tired to do a fresh install treid 4 times already, and every time i get error 17, cant mount any help
[11:37] <Jowi> anarcat: unfortunatley i have no experience with usb mice
[11:38] <anarcat_> there's also a non-functional synaptics touchpad
[11:38] <serja> anyone could help me with my ATI 3D accelaration?
[11:38] <anarcat_> i'm wondering if it's possible to start x without a mouse...
[11:38] <jrib> serja: have you seen the wiki page for ati?
[11:39] <serja> i have seen all sorts
[11:39] <anarcat_> module path is said to be /usr/X11R6/lib/modules, but the actual mouse modules are in /usr/lib/ something
[11:39] <serja> and that one too
[11:39] <anarcat_> /usr/lib/xorg/modules
[11:39] <jrib> serja: the ubuntu wiki in particular?
[11:39] <serja> none of methods helped too
[11:39] <noorms> anyone have any ideas how to get firewire working on ubuntu ?
[11:40] <serja> i tried easyubuntu
[11:40] <serja> but it didn't do anything either :(
[11:40] <anarcat_> well, this sucks
[11:40] <KanRiNiN> Easyubuntu has a problem with broken packages from what I heard
[11:41] <Tommy2k4> can anyone help me get rid of that error when doing ./configure
[11:41] <arthurb> Hi, uh anytone noticed that the picture on the front page of the ubuntu website awfully looks like some sort of svatiska ?
[11:41] <anarcat_> (EE) No Input driver matching `kbd'
[11:41] <anarcat_> (EE) No Input driver matching `mouse'
[11:41] <anarcat_> that *can't* be good
[11:41] <Jowi> anarcat: does the touchpad work or not even?
[11:42] <blacktears> hey everyone
[11:42] <blacktears> i downloaded kpackage and now i have everything i need
[11:43] <blacktears> thanks for your help
[11:43] <N9URK> biovore you here?
[11:43] <N9URK> BioVorE where you be?
[11:43] <BioVorE> yup
[11:43] <N9URK> Ok, my problem from the other night was a bad hard drive
[11:44] <N9URK> shortly after you left it stopped completely
[11:44] <BioVorE> well that will do it..
[11:44] <ryanakca> ok, for enabling web interface for CUPS, I ran "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" as described by /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian, yet the web interface still doesn't work. I get a dialog box, (like one given by htaccess) asking for a username & password. I enter cupsys. I hit Ok. "Authentication failed. Do you wish to try again?" I tried my username & pass (yes, I'm in the lpadmin group), same thing. What do I do?
[11:44] <N9URK> what did you say your callsign is?
[11:44] <BioVorE> you have to be carefull with lattent ESD damage with the nwe PC hardware.. dosn't take hardly anything..
[11:44] <BioVorE> a little static charge on your shirt it all it takes
[11:44] <N9URK> Also, I got a new hard drive to day $80 for 250G
[11:45] <BioVorE> N9URK: nice
[11:45] <anarcat_> Jowi: the touchpad doesn't work
[11:45] <BioVorE> so ready to give it another spin
[11:45] <anarcat_> but there's a deeper problem here
[11:45] <anarcat_> it can't find the modules themselves
[11:45] <N9URK> BioVorE: I have the LAMP server with desktop set up
[11:45] <Jowi> anarcat: can you disable acpi at boot to see if that works?
[11:45] <joemauch> hi, when i play a video peoples skin looks blue, any idea what could be wrong?
[11:45] <anarcat_> (EE) No Input driver matching `kbd'
[11:45] <anarcat_> (EE) No Input driver matching `mouse'
[11:45] <N9URK> BioVorE: easy install, Gnucash isn't in apt-get though so I am going to have to find the source that does have it
[11:46] <anarcat_> i can try to disable acpi......
[11:46] <anarcat_> noacpi on boot?
[11:46] <BioVorE> N9URK: its not!!  I am sure it is..
[11:46] <anarcat_> Jowi: ^^?
[11:46] <Jowi> anarcat: yeah. pci=noacpi
[11:46] <_Luks> hiya
[11:46] <anarcat_> joemauch: it's a smurf movie :P
[11:46] <_Luks> how to join MOTU ?
[11:46] <anarcat_> Jowi: linux pci=noacpi?? not simply linux noacpi?
[11:46] <ryanakca> arthurb: ???
[11:47] <joemauch> anarcat_: yeah, but it'd be nice to have it look normal, mplayer/vlc look fine, but i want gstreamer to look okay too
[11:47] <N9URK> BioVorE: I did apt-get -s install gnucash and got "couldnt find package gnucash"
[11:47] <Jowi> anarcat: at install? don't know. pci=noacpi is a grub option
[11:47] <N9URK> BioVorE: There always has to be some problem, even if just a small one ;)
[11:47] <BioVorE> it here
[11:47] <anarcat_> hmmm
[11:47] <BioVorE> you have mutliverse and stuff in the sources.list thing
[11:47] <anarcat_> so i'll reboot
[11:47] <BioVorE> !repos
[11:47] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:47] <anarcat_> bbl
[11:47] <N9URK> Has anyone put gnucash on Dapper?
[11:47] <udo> does anyone knows why i cant hear sound my system already detect my sound card
[11:47] <Sashi> yo
[11:48] <genus> does anybody have any suggestions for a data recovery program?
[11:48] <BioVorE> N9URK: look at the repos
[11:48] <Sashi> whats a good screen recorder
[11:48] <BioVorE> N9URK: is in the universe repository
[11:48] <N9URK> BioVorE: cool thanks
[11:48] <N9URK> BioVorE:  I will add it
[11:48] <BioVorE> also ass multiverse..
[11:48] <BioVorE> and take a look at easyubuntu
[11:48] <BioVorE> !easyubuntu
[11:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:48] <KyoLptp`> So er
[11:48] <someothernick> genus, simple backup
[11:49] <KyoLptp`> The MBR is always on the first sector of the primary HD, right?
[11:49] <paniq> does anyone have experience with pxe netboots?
[11:49] <genus> well hindsight yeah
[11:49] <genus> but it's a little too late for what I should have done
[11:49] <arthurb> ryanakca: well the people used to be forming a circle
[11:49] <N9URK> BioVorE: what can I do to get ubotu to give me a list of his commands?
[11:49] <udo> does anyone knows why i cant hear sound my system already detect my sound card
[11:49] <zukalk> can anyone tell me in which files protocols like mms:// and svn:// are associated with applications?
[11:50] <BioVorE> N9URK: Its on there wiki site
[11:50] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: yes. but if the harddisk is broken then the MBR can be troublesome to backup/restore nomatter how hard you try.
[11:50] <BioVorE> !commands
[11:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, commands is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[11:50] <N9URK> BioVorE: ok I will look there. tnx
[11:50] <ryanakca> Arthurb: aah
[11:50] <m0nk_> hey guys
[11:50] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: you can specify another device to install the MBR to though, but I doubt win support that
[11:50] <N9URK> BioVorE: those are the basic linux commands: not ubotu's commands
[11:50] <m0nk_> im having some issues updating to the new distro
[11:51] <BioVorE> !asdfasdf
[11:51] <ubotu> BioVorE: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:51] <KyoLptp`> the hard disk isn't broken
[11:51] <BioVorE> http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ <-- look there
[11:51] <Jowi> !ubotu
[11:51] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[11:51] <udo> does anyone knows why i cant hear sound my system already detect my sound card
[11:51] <N9URK> BioVorE: nice thanks.  am looking there
[11:51] <BioVorE> I just know because I watch what othere put into it
[11:51] <KyoLptp`> it's just that whenever I try to break new ground with my PC, the fecal matter hits the temperature regulator
[11:51] <ompaul> !repos
[11:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:52] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: hate when that happens ;)
[11:52] <igorzolnikov> how i can uninstall samba?
[11:53] <m0nk_> synaptic....
[11:53] <Jowi> KyoLptp`: and "fixboot" didn't work either i suppose?
[11:53] <Hoxzer> :) YEAH
[11:53] <ago> Hi
[11:53] <Jowi> igorzolnikov: sudo apt-get remove samba
[11:54] <KyoLptp`> I'm pretty sure I tried everything that looked like it could help
[11:54] <KyoLptp`> don't really remember, but I think I got a message along the lines of "lol you're boned" each time
[11:54] <ompaul> !grub
[11:54] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:54] <ago> Does anybody know how to improve the first XGL screen? (b&w with cross cursor)
[11:54] <udo> why i can hear any sound in my system?
[11:54] <mooseman447> hey
[11:55] <Tommy2k4> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[11:55] <ompaul> ago please ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:55] <Hoxzer> Rasta
[11:55] <Tommy2k4> how can i get rid of that error when ./configure
[11:55] <ago> thx ompaul
[11:55] <mooseman447> does anybody have a problem with ff that if you right click a tab to close it ff crashes?
 don't work
[11:55] <Hoxzer> Fun fun funky funky IT is getting funky its getting funky
[11:55] <Hoxzer> ;) but dont kick me
[11:55] <dibblego> why don't I see a "Suspend" option in the shutdown dialog but I do see one in the login screen under "Options"?
[11:55] <ompaul> Hoxzer, that is a tad offtopic
[11:55] <Jowi> igorzolnikov: error?
[11:55] <Hoxzer> :D
[11:55] <igorzolnikov>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[11:55] <N9URK> how do I d things on the desktop as sudo/su/Root?
[11:56] <Jowi> igorzolnikov: never seen that before. no idea
[11:56] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, try /etc/init.d/samba stop and then removing it
[11:56] <DESiBELi> the new live/install cd blocks all incoming connections in live mode? where can i change linux firewall to allow all connections?
[11:56] <Dial_tone> damn, somehow my kernel changed back to the generic one....no smp, probably the ATI drivers
[11:57] <udo> why i can hear any sound in my system?
[11:57] <igorzolnikov> again error
[11:57] <dibblego> udo, checked your master volume?
[11:57] <igorzolnikov> ompaul, again error
[11:57] <udo> i check it but nothing
[11:57] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, if it has an error what is that error I am not looking at the screen with you ;-) you have to tell us
[11:57] <KyoLptp`> the latest problem is that Norton Partitionmagic sees my second drive as Dynamic Disk and refuses to partition it
[11:58] <N9URK> BioVorE. I am on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and my System -> Administration menu only has 5 things on it.  How do I get the rest pictured on that page?
[11:58] <KyoLptp`> but I doubt anyone here can help me with that
[11:58] <igorzolnikov> invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba
[11:58] <igorzolnikov> dpkg: error processing samba (--remove):
[11:58] <igorzolnikov>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[11:58] <igorzolnikov> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:58] <igorzolnikov>  samba
[11:58] <igorzolnikov> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[11:58] <exhale> does anyone run ubuntu dapper on a nforce4 based mobo?
[11:58] <Sjoerd-> How do I install network manager for gnome?
[11:58] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, you know you should not paste here?
[11:58] <BioVorE> N9URK: I just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:58] <BioVorE> as root
[11:58] <BioVorE> then do an apt-get update
[11:58] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, paste.ubuntu-nl.org is what you use for htat
[11:58] <N9URK> that is what I would normally do BioVorE, but I would like to learn a little more about the desktop.  Thanks
[11:59] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless card?
[11:59] <udo> how can i test speakers?
[11:59] <serja> would any ATI card work with Kororra?
[11:59] <BioVorE> N9URK: I my opinion its still very borked
[11:59] <ompaul> igorzolnikov,  sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $package <<followed by >> sudo apt-get install $package  << then you do stop and then remove
[11:59] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, if error paste it into paste.ubuntu-nl.org