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| === DanielC waves | ||
| DarkElf109 | Two questions: Is it possible to use GDM instead of LDM for the LTSP clients, and if so, how? Further, what's the best way to get local media mounted? | 01:49 |
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| DarkElf109 | Oh, heya =) | 01:49 |
| DanielC | DarkElf109: Upgrade to Dapper. | 01:49 |
| DarkElf109 | Installed from the Dapper CD | 01:49 |
| DanielC | HedgeMage: I notice that there are no presentation templates for Edubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations). Can I make one and upload it? | 01:50 |
| DanielC | DarkElf109: :( | 01:50 |
| HedgeMage | DanielC: go for it! :D | 01:50 |
| DanielC | :-) | 01:50 |
| HedgeMage | can someone recommend a good calendar app? | 01:51 |
| DanielC | HedgeMage: How do you upload files? is there anything I should keep in mind before uploading? | 01:51 |
| DanielC | re calendar: No, sorry. | 01:51 |
| DarkElf109 | HedgeMage: iCal's the best I've found...makes me sad I don't have a Mac =P | 01:51 |
| DarkElf109 | HedgeMage: Though, I will say, Yahoo Calendar is very nice | 01:52 |
| DanielC | I use KAlarm, but that's not a calendar. It's just a reminder program. | 01:52 |
| HedgeMage | DanielC: I haven't done it, but I think there's a way to attach to a wiki page, ask someone more wiki-literate | 01:52 |
| DarkElf109 | DanielC: For whatever wiki page you want to attach a page to, just add "?action=AttachFile" to the end of the URL | 01:53 |
| DanielC | HedgeMage: I'm sure I'll find someone who knows. It'll take me a while to do anyways... | 01:53 |
| DarkElf109 | Or, on the drop-down box, select "attachments" | 01:53 |
| DanielC | DarkElf109: thanks :) | 01:53 |
| DarkElf109 | =) | 01:53 |
| DanielC | doh! | 01:53 |
| DanielC | I didn't notice the drop down box. | 01:53 |
| DarkElf109 | Hehe | 01:54 |
| DanielC | HedgeMage: I'll ask EmxBA to help with the artwork. He seems eager, and it's good to give eager people something to do and a little praise. | 01:54 |
| DarkElf109 | So...no ideas on mounting local media? I know there are ways to do it with the standard LTSP install, but I can't find any that specifically claim to work with Edubuntu | 01:55 |
| DanielC | DarkElf109: Never tried really. | 01:56 |
| DarkElf109 | Hrm...is the HOTPLUG option in lts.conf recognized yet? | 01:59 |
| === DanielC can't find the page with that information | ||
| DarkElf109 | I forget where the wiki page is, and I know for a fact that it's outfdated =P | 02:03 |
| DarkElf109 | Well, I've gotta go eat, and I found some stuff on the LTSP wiki to try out...I'll let y'all know how it works out =) | 02:08 |
| DarkElf109 | Later | 02:08 |
| DanielC | l8r | 02:08 |
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| HedgeMage | DanielC_zzz: cool... btw, do you have contact info for RobinShepard? the email addy he/she gave me must have been typoed because I got my email back | 02:15 |
| crimsun | Robin Shepheard robin.shepheard at swisp.co.uk <-- ? | 02:18 |
| HedgeMage | that's the one I have | 02:45 |
| HedgeMage | :/ | 02:45 |
| HedgeMage | it bounced | 02:45 |
| crimsun | ah, sorry, I don't know, then. I pulled that from the edubuntu-devel archive for this month. | 02:47 |
| HedgeMage | yeah... I wonder if their ISP has my hosting provider blacklisted or something... we were temporarily blacklisted by a couple due to a mistake AOL made | 02:49 |
| HedgeMage | (why anyone would rely on AOL's blacklist is beyond me) | 02:49 |
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| Yagisan | HedgeMage: you here ? | 02:55 |
| HedgeMage | Yagisan: for some value thereof :) | 02:55 |
| HedgeMage | Yagisan: what's up? | 02:58 |
| Yagisan | HedgeMage: I have a freenode issue I need some help with. As I still don't have ops on #doomsday, I need a troublemaker kicked | 02:58 |
| Yagisan | HedgeMage: can you do that sort of thing ? | 02:59 |
| HedgeMage | yep, but I have to catch 'em in the act first | 02:59 |
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| HedgeMage | hi Amaranth | 03:15 |
| Amaranth | hi | 03:15 |
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| Amaranth | *grumble* | 04:43 |
| Amaranth | fun broken code | 04:43 |
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| pc22 | how do i restore grub? all i have is dapper installer and livecd of hoary? | 06:17 |
| mhz | pc22: what exactly do you wnat grub to do? | 06:35 |
| pc22 | reinstall grub | 06:37 |
| pc22 | reinstall grub to mbr | 06:37 |
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| mhz | pc22: hmmm | 06:46 |
| mhz | IIRC, you do that by booting from dapper install.iso and start the process of installing (do not partition anything!) and pressing ESC in order to get you to a list of tasks to perform. Browse that list and get to Install GRUB | 06:48 |
| === mhz has not done it.. but he imagines that's the way | ||
| mhz | Also, there should be lot of info in google and/or wiki.ubuntu.org | 06:49 |
| pc22 | i did | 06:58 |
| pc22 | all wont wont | 06:58 |
| pc22 | ill try your suggestion | 06:58 |
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| pygi | joy, ubuntu people can now try bonfire :) | 10:37 |
| DanielC_zzz | kumbaya.... | 10:38 |
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| DanielC | :) | 10:38 |
| pygi | DanielC, hehe :) | 10:38 |
| pygi | Now I can force everyone to try it :P | 10:38 |
| pygi | DanielC, try it :P | 10:47 |
| DanielC | try what? | 10:47 |
| DanielC | Oh, there is an application called bonfire? | 10:47 |
| pygi | http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158 | 10:47 |
| DanielC | *click* | 10:47 |
| DanielC | What's DVD mastering? | 10:48 |
| pygi | just burning :P | 10:49 |
| DanielC | :P | 10:49 |
| DanielC | That sounds boring. If you've seen one CD-burning program you've seen them all. | 10:49 |
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| pygi | DanielC, lies :P | 10:50 |
| juliux | morning | 10:55 |
| pygi | mornin' juliux :P | 10:57 |
| Amaranth | I give up, my bayesian library can try to do log on negative numbers until morning. | 11:07 |
| Amaranth | i'll make that my project to work on while i'm en route to omaha | 11:10 |
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| EmxBA | hi | 12:05 |
| EmxBA | hi DanielC | 12:05 |
| EmxBA | i got your mail | 12:05 |
| EmxBA | can i private you? | 12:05 |
| DanielC | HedgeMage: ping? | 12:09 |
| DanielC | HedgeMage: EmxBA and I were wondering what's the usual copyright license for the Ubuntu wiki. | 12:09 |
| EmxBA | GNU something, right? | 12:10 |
| DanielC | We'll find out soon enough, no rush. | 12:11 |
| EmxBA | ok | 12:11 |
| EmxBA | np | 12:11 |
| juliux | DanielC, there was an email about the copyright licens for the ubuntu wiki | 12:11 |
| DanielC | juliux: I didn't see it. What's the resolution? | 12:12 |
| juliux | DanielC, i wil see if i have it on my computer | 12:12 |
| DanielC | I think Ubuntu uses Creative Commons Attribution. | 12:12 |
| juliux | DanielC, hm i cannt find the e-mail, | 12:14 |
| DanielC | Ok. It's just good to use the same thing everyone else is using. | 12:14 |
| DanielC | To avoid incompatibilities that nobody really means to have there. | 12:14 |
| EmxBA | DanielC: please look at my artwork on http://85.92.241.245 | 12:14 |
| EmxBA | that's my current IP | 12:14 |
| EmxBA | please understand that i use dialup :) | 12:15 |
| DanielC | I've seen it. They're the same that you have on the wiki page. | 12:15 |
| EmxBA | not the same | 12:15 |
| EmxBA | similar but not the same :) | 12:16 |
| DanielC | I can't see the difference :) | 12:16 |
| juliux | EmxBA, i have an open ftp server for ubuntu stuff | 12:16 |
| EmxBA | can i get some space on it, juliux | 12:16 |
| juliux | EmxBA, so if you want you can upload your stuff there | 12:16 |
| EmxBA | tnx | 12:16 |
| EmxBA | can i private you | 12:16 |
| EmxBA | ? | 12:16 |
| juliux | EmxBA, query? | 12:16 |
| EmxBA | yes | 12:17 |
| EmxBA | private=query | 12:17 |
| EmxBA | folks? | 12:26 |
| EmxBA | go to http://ubuntu.juliux.de/stuff/emx/ | 12:26 |
| EmxBA | my images are there | 12:26 |
| DanielC | :) | 12:27 |
| EmxBA | they are bigger than the old ones | 12:27 |
| DanielC | Thanks juliux. | 12:27 |
| EmxBA | i like this blue one | 12:27 |
| juliux | you are welcome | 12:27 |
| EmxBA | thanks julixu really | 12:27 |
| EmxBA | till today i always had to run apache on my dialup connection :) | 12:27 |
| EmxBA | *thanks juliux | 12:27 |
| juliux | hehe | 12:28 |
| EmxBA | do you like the pictures? | 12:28 |
| juliux | the green one si nice | 12:28 |
| EmxBA | yes | 12:28 |
| EmxBA | and blue | 12:28 |
| EmxBA | there is also glass and cubism | 12:29 |
| EmxBA | ping all | 12:30 |
| EmxBA | is there any edubuntu logo | 12:30 |
| EmxBA | maybe 1024x768 | 12:30 |
| EmxBA | i need very large logo | 12:30 |
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| Amaranth | i believe the logo itself is SVG | 12:35 |
| Amaranth | so you could try to scale it up | 12:35 |
| EmxBA | ok | 12:35 |
| EmxBA | but i am wondering where can i get only the logo, not the text | 12:36 |
| EmxBA | just the orange circle | 12:36 |
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| cbx33 | hi all | 07:51 |
| cbx33 | anyone else experiencing slow downloads fro the ubutnu servers | 07:51 |
| mhz | cbx33: nope | 07:59 |
| mhz | well, | 07:59 |
| mhz | not tried | 07:59 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: use bittorrent | 08:00 |
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| georg | Greetings from Austria! I'm just about to deploy edubuntu to a network in school (12 Clients), but i'm worring about running teachingsoftware (nativ-windows). Any experiences? | 08:16 |
| lucasvo | georg: which software are you talking about? for example 3d software most likely won't run on linux | 08:25 |
| georg | mostly software provided with schoolbooks | 08:46 |
| DanielC | georg: Did you promise to anyone that that would work? | 08:47 |
| georg | not yet :) | 08:47 |
| DanielC | (running Windows software under Linux) | 08:47 |
| DanielC | :) | 08:47 |
| DanielC | Better not to promise anything. Running Windows software under Linux is really hit or miss. | 08:47 |
| DanielC | Edubuntu can be very useful without running Windows software. | 08:48 |
| georg | Has anyone experince in "school-business"? | 08:48 |
| DanielC | Not really. :( | 08:48 |
| georg | teachers want the software provided with their books | 08:48 |
| DanielC | Honestly I haven't tried to run Windows software with Edubuntu. | 08:48 |
| DanielC | I see... | 08:48 |
| DanielC | Well, that definitely makes sense, but might be tricky. | 08:49 |
| georg | i thought of terminal sessions | 08:49 |
| DanielC | I'm more worried about whether wine can run that software. | 08:49 |
| DanielC | I expect it just comes down to what wine can do. | 08:50 |
| georg | yup | 08:50 |
| georg | the problem is that nobody can tell (but they want to know) | 08:51 |
| DanielC | Do you have a copy of that software? Can you just try it? | 08:51 |
| DanielC | As a teacher to lend you a book? | 08:52 |
| DanielC | ask | 08:52 |
| georg | i could test the software for this year, but everything could change next year | 08:52 |
| georg | :( | 08:52 |
| DanielC | That's a problem. Would the software at least be similar? | 08:53 |
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| DanielC | I wouldn't count on wine working. | 08:53 |
| DanielC | It works well with some programs and is useless for others, and I couldn't predict for which programs it will work. | 08:53 |
| georg | this IS the problem | 08:54 |
| georg | any alternative to wine | 08:54 |
| DanielC | Can you afford a copy of vmware or win4lin? | 08:55 |
| georg | i thought of citrix,... running on M$ | 08:55 |
| georg | software installation should be very easy (for teachers!) | 08:56 |
| georg | the best solution would be to buy only school-software running on linux (in my dreams :) | 08:59 |
| DanielC | :) | 08:59 |
| DanielC | Can you afford vmware or win4lin though? | 09:00 |
| DanielC | Are those viable options? | 09:00 |
| georg | could be, if the price is resonable | 09:01 |
| georg | but the usage of this classroom is about 4-8 hours per week | 09:02 |
| georg | users age :6-10 | 09:03 |
| DanielC | Ok. | 09:03 |
| georg | it should be rather cheap | 09:03 |
| georg | i think i give wine a try | 09:04 |
| DanielC | I haven't looked at Win4Lin in years, but last I checked it was affordable. | 09:04 |
| DanielC | And Vmware expensive. | 09:04 |
| DanielC | So, you can try wine as an ideal solution and keep win4lin as a fallback if wine doesn't work. | 09:05 |
| georg | wish me luck :) | 09:05 |
| DanielC | :) | 09:05 |
| georg | thanks for talking, bye | 09:05 |
| DanielC | bye | 09:05 |
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| pc22 | im having a badtime restoring my grub, pls help | 09:14 |
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| EmxBA | hi everyone! | 09:24 |
| pc22 | yo | 09:31 |
| EmxBA | :) | 09:32 |
| DanielC | pc22: What's the problem with grub? | 09:34 |
| pc22 | i reinstalled xp now grub wont appear | 09:37 |
| === DanielC thinks | ||
| DanielC | Trying to remember how to fix this... | 09:38 |
| EmxBA | pc22: juts reinstall grub again with live cd or something similar | 09:38 |
| EmxBA | xp installs ntldr into mbr | 09:38 |
| DanielC | EmxBA: Yes, but how. | 09:38 |
| EmxBA | ? | 09:38 |
| DanielC | With lilo you just run the 'lilo' command. | 09:38 |
| DanielC | With grub what do you do? | 09:38 |
| EmxBA | just boot knoppix and edit menu.lst | 09:39 |
| EmxBA | then grub-install | 09:39 |
| DanielC | Well, menu.lst should be untouched, so it's just "grub-install" then. | 09:39 |
| DanielC | Of course, you'd have to chroot first. | 09:39 |
| pc22 | yeah | 09:40 |
| pc22 | i dont know how to mount etc | 09:40 |
| DanielC | Or you could copy the menu.lst from your partition onto the virtual operating system and run grub-install there. | 09:40 |
| pc22 | i need a step by step heheheh | 09:40 |
| EmxBA | yes | 09:40 |
| DanielC | pc22: sure, no problem. | 09:40 |
| DanielC | pc22: Do you have the computer in front of you? | 09:40 |
| DanielC | pc22: Step 1 is to boot from a Live CD. | 09:40 |
| pc22 | yea i have it here in my side | 09:41 |
| DanielC | Now open a terminal. | 09:41 |
| pc22 | ok im using knoppix\ | 09:41 |
| DanielC | Become root. | 09:41 |
| pc22 | ok | 09:42 |
| DanielC | Make a directory (mkdir ubuntu) | 09:42 |
| pc22 | then | 09:43 |
| DanielC | Now, do you remember on which partition you installed Ubuntu? (e.g. /dev/hda1) | 09:43 |
| pc22 | hdc1 | 09:44 |
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| DanielC | Ok: mount /dev/hdc1 ubuntu | 09:44 |
| DanielC | If you type "ls ubuntu" you should see your regular Ubuntu file system. | 09:44 |
| DanielC | Ok, I'll assume that worked. | 09:47 |
| DanielC | Then run: chroot ubuntu | 09:47 |
| DanielC | At this point you are root in your Ubuntu system. | 09:47 |
| DanielC | Run "grub-install". | 09:48 |
| DanielC | Now you're done. | 09:48 |
| pc22 | it says hdc1 does not exist | 09:48 |
| pc22 | could it be hd0 | 09:49 |
| DanielC | Run "fdisk /dev/hdc" | 09:49 |
| DanielC | press p to see a list of partitions on that disk. | 09:49 |
| DanielC | hd0 can't be right, they are all of the form hd<letter><number> | 09:49 |
| pc22 | unable to open /dev/hdc | 09:50 |
| DanielC | Try hda or hdb | 09:50 |
| DanielC | hdc would be an unusual place for your operating system, hda is much more common. | 09:51 |
| pc22 | all unable | 09:51 |
| DanielC | This is odd... | 09:51 |
| DanielC | Are you *positive* you are root? | 09:51 |
| DanielC | My guess is that you aren't. | 09:52 |
| DanielC | Does the prompt have a # symbol or a $ sign? | 09:52 |
| DanielC | # means root and $ means regular user. | 09:52 |
| DanielC | Type "su" to become root. | 09:52 |
| pc22 | yeah im root with knoppix | 09:52 |
| pc22 | # | 09:52 |
| DanielC | I don't know what to suggest. | 09:53 |
| pc22 | i guess i just have to reinstall | 09:53 |
| pc22 | anyway thanks a lot | 09:53 |
| DanielC | Sorry I couldn't help. | 09:54 |
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| pc22 | i just jotted down the details | 09:56 |
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| highvoltage | rodarvus: howdy! | 10:07 |
| rodarvus | hooray :) | 10:07 |
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| cbx33 | evenin all | 10:20 |
| cbx33 | hi LaserJock | 10:20 |
| HedgeMage | hi cbx33 | 10:20 |
| cbx33 | hey HedgeMage | 10:21 |
| jsgotangco | good evening | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | hi jsgotangco | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | hey cbx33 | 10:25 |
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| Yagisan | G'day HedgeMage | 10:58 |
| Yagisan | thanks for babysitting the channel earlier | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 10:59 |
| HedgeMage | hi Yagisan | 11:01 |
| HedgeMage | np | 11:01 |
| HedgeMage | Yagisan: may I /msg you? | 11:01 |
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| cbx33 | tried the recent gisomount? | 11:12 |
| HedgeMage | hi pygi | 11:12 |
| cbx33 | HedgeMage, was it something you said? | 11:13 |
| HedgeMage | apparently :P | 11:13 |
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| EmxBA | hi again :) | 11:15 |
| HedgeMage | hi EmxBA get my email? | 11:17 |
| EmxBA | just a sec | 11:17 |
| EmxBA | yes, I've seen it now | 11:19 |
| EmxBA | i am curretly very busy with possible debconf7 in bosnia | 11:19 |
| EmxBA | but i can arrange something | 11:19 |
| EmxBA | anyway, i can help | 11:19 |
| HedgeMage | cool :) | 11:25 |
| HedgeMage | just wanted to make sure you got it, had a problem with one of the other addresses it went to | 11:25 |
| EmxBA | ok | 11:27 |
| EmxBA | emx@linux.org.ba is right | 11:27 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 11:29 |
| EmxBA | :) | 11:29 |
| EmxBA | np | 11:29 |
| lucasvo | anybody can offer a summer job in San Francisco, CA? | 11:29 |
| EmxBA | i cannot | 11:30 |
| EmxBA | i live in europe :) | 11:30 |
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| EmxBA | i think this image is old | 11:33 |
| EmxBA | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/Installation?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=cdboot.png | 11:33 |
| EmxBA | when i boot edubuntu cd i just get options "boot live cd" , "safe graphics..." and so.. | 11:34 |
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| EmxBA | hehe | 12:04 |
| EmxBA | you are idle, aren't you | 12:04 |
| EmxBA | gotta go | 12:04 |
| EmxBA | see ya | 12:04 |
| EmxBA | ! | 12:04 |
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| ubotu | EmxBA: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ | 12:04 |
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