=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === DarkElf109 [n=DarkElf1@ip68-98-18-98.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === DarkElf109 [n=DarkElf1@ip68-98-18-98.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage peeks in to see if anyone is alive === DanielC waves [01:49] Two questions: Is it possible to use GDM instead of LDM for the LTSP clients, and if so, how? Further, what's the best way to get local media mounted? [01:49] Oh, heya =) [01:49] DarkElf109: Upgrade to Dapper. [01:49] Installed from the Dapper CD [01:50] HedgeMage: I notice that there are no presentation templates for Edubuntu (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations). Can I make one and upload it? [01:50] DarkElf109: :( [01:50] DanielC: go for it! :D [01:50] :-) [01:51] can someone recommend a good calendar app? [01:51] HedgeMage: How do you upload files? is there anything I should keep in mind before uploading? [01:51] re calendar: No, sorry. [01:51] HedgeMage: iCal's the best I've found...makes me sad I don't have a Mac =P [01:52] HedgeMage: Though, I will say, Yahoo Calendar is very nice [01:52] I use KAlarm, but that's not a calendar. It's just a reminder program. [01:52] DanielC: I haven't done it, but I think there's a way to attach to a wiki page, ask someone more wiki-literate [01:53] DanielC: For whatever wiki page you want to attach a page to, just add "?action=AttachFile" to the end of the URL [01:53] HedgeMage: I'm sure I'll find someone who knows. It'll take me a while to do anyways... [01:53] Or, on the drop-down box, select "attachments" [01:53] DarkElf109: thanks :) [01:53] =) [01:53] doh! [01:53] I didn't notice the drop down box. [01:54] Hehe [01:54] HedgeMage: I'll ask EmxBA to help with the artwork. He seems eager, and it's good to give eager people something to do and a little praise. [01:55] So...no ideas on mounting local media? I know there are ways to do it with the standard LTSP install, but I can't find any that specifically claim to work with Edubuntu [01:56] DarkElf109: Never tried really. [01:59] Hrm...is the HOTPLUG option in lts.conf recognized yet? === DanielC can't find the page with that information [02:03] I forget where the wiki page is, and I know for a fact that it's outfdated =P [02:08] Well, I've gotta go eat, and I found some stuff on the LTSP wiki to try out...I'll let y'all know how it works out =) [02:08] Later [02:08] l8r === DanielC is now known as DanielC_zzz [02:15] DanielC_zzz: cool... btw, do you have contact info for RobinShepard? the email addy he/she gave me must have been typoed because I got my email back [02:18] Robin Shepheard robin.shepheard at swisp.co.uk <-- ? [02:45] that's the one I have [02:45] :/ [02:45] it bounced [02:47] ah, sorry, I don't know, then. I pulled that from the edubuntu-devel archive for this month. [02:49] yeah... I wonder if their ISP has my hosting provider blacklisted or something... we were temporarily blacklisted by a couple due to a mistake AOL made [02:49] (why anyone would rely on AOL's blacklist is beyond me) === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-122-174.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [02:55] HedgeMage: you here ? [02:55] Yagisan: for some value thereof :) [02:58] Yagisan: what's up? [02:58] HedgeMage: I have a freenode issue I need some help with. As I still don't have ops on #doomsday, I need a troublemaker kicked [02:59] HedgeMage: can you do that sort of thing ? [02:59] yep, but I have to catch 'em in the act first === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [03:15] hi Amaranth [03:15] hi === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu [04:43] *grumble* [04:43] fun broken code === mhz [n=mhz@201.214.84.130] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage checks who's around === pc22 [n=godthor@222.126.13.162] has joined #edubuntu [06:17] how do i restore grub? all i have is dapper installer and livecd of hoary? [06:35] pc22: what exactly do you wnat grub to do? [06:37] reinstall grub [06:37] reinstall grub to mbr === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-49-171.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [06:46] pc22: hmmm [06:48] IIRC, you do that by booting from dapper install.iso and start the process of installing (do not partition anything!) and pressing ESC in order to get you to a list of tasks to perform. Browse that list and get to Install GRUB === mhz has not done it.. but he imagines that's the way [06:49] Also, there should be lot of info in google and/or wiki.ubuntu.org [06:58] i did [06:58] all wont wont [06:58] ill try your suggestion === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-49-171.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-49-171.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-19-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a_desk [n=hoffman@pool-64-223-49-171.prov.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.60.217.251] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-19-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-19-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-152-185-18.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-245-186.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [10:37] joy, ubuntu people can now try bonfire :) [10:38] kumbaya.... === DanielC_zzz is now known as DanielC [10:38] :) [10:38] DanielC, hehe :) [10:38] Now I can force everyone to try it :P [10:47] DanielC, try it :P [10:47] try what? [10:47] Oh, there is an application called bonfire? [10:47] http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158 [10:47] *click* [10:48] What's DVD mastering? [10:49] just burning :P [10:49] :P [10:49] That sounds boring. If you've seen one CD-burning program you've seen them all. === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] DanielC, lies :P [10:55] morning [10:57] mornin' juliux :P [11:07] I give up, my bayesian library can try to do log on negative numbers until morning. [11:10] i'll make that my project to work on while i'm en route to omaha === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-245-186.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp501.bih.net.ba] has joined #edubuntu [12:05] hi [12:05] hi DanielC [12:05] i got your mail [12:05] can i private you? [12:09] HedgeMage: ping? [12:09] HedgeMage: EmxBA and I were wondering what's the usual copyright license for the Ubuntu wiki. [12:10] GNU something, right? [12:11] We'll find out soon enough, no rush. [12:11] ok [12:11] np [12:11] DanielC, there was an email about the copyright licens for the ubuntu wiki [12:12] juliux: I didn't see it. What's the resolution? [12:12] DanielC, i wil see if i have it on my computer [12:12] I think Ubuntu uses Creative Commons Attribution. [12:14] DanielC, hm i cannt find the e-mail, [12:14] Ok. It's just good to use the same thing everyone else is using. [12:14] To avoid incompatibilities that nobody really means to have there. [12:14] DanielC: please look at my artwork on http://85.92.241.245 [12:14] that's my current IP [12:15] please understand that i use dialup :) [12:15] I've seen it. They're the same that you have on the wiki page. [12:15] not the same [12:16] similar but not the same :) [12:16] I can't see the difference :) [12:16] EmxBA, i have an open ftp server for ubuntu stuff [12:16] can i get some space on it, juliux [12:16] EmxBA, so if you want you can upload your stuff there [12:16] tnx [12:16] can i private you [12:16] ? [12:16] EmxBA, query? [12:17] yes [12:17] private=query [12:26] folks? [12:26] go to http://ubuntu.juliux.de/stuff/emx/ [12:26] my images are there [12:27] :) [12:27] they are bigger than the old ones [12:27] Thanks juliux. [12:27] i like this blue one [12:27] you are welcome [12:27] thanks julixu really [12:27] till today i always had to run apache on my dialup connection :) [12:27] *thanks juliux [12:28] hehe [12:28] do you like the pictures? [12:28] the green one si nice [12:28] yes [12:28] and blue [12:29] there is also glass and cubism [12:30] ping all [12:30] is there any edubuntu logo [12:30] maybe 1024x768 [12:30] i need very large logo === B4zzA [n=chevron_@203.161.101.141.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [12:35] i believe the logo itself is SVG [12:35] so you could try to scale it up [12:35] ok [12:36] but i am wondering where can i get only the logo, not the text [12:36] just the orange circle === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === chrismo [n=chris@rdlax12-b001.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp501.bih.net.ba] has left #edubuntu [] === shankr [n=shanat@59.92.116.100] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.60.217.251] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === chrismo [n=chris@rdlax10-b095.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@201.214.84.130] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-145-25-87.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === _froud_ is now known as froud === caravena [n=caravena@27-65-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-25-87.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === cbx33 [n=542de178@209.152.164.93] has joined #edubuntu [07:51] hi all [07:51] anyone else experiencing slow downloads fro the ubutnu servers [07:59] cbx33: nope [07:59] well, [07:59] not tried [08:00] cbx33: use bittorrent === georg [n=georg@teacheradsl242.eduhi.at] has joined #edubuntu [08:16] Greetings from Austria! I'm just about to deploy edubuntu to a network in school (12 Clients), but i'm worring about running teachingsoftware (nativ-windows). Any experiences? [08:25] georg: which software are you talking about? for example 3d software most likely won't run on linux [08:46] mostly software provided with schoolbooks [08:47] georg: Did you promise to anyone that that would work? [08:47] not yet :) [08:47] (running Windows software under Linux) [08:47] :) [08:47] Better not to promise anything. Running Windows software under Linux is really hit or miss. [08:48] Edubuntu can be very useful without running Windows software. [08:48] Has anyone experince in "school-business"? [08:48] Not really. :( [08:48] teachers want the software provided with their books [08:48] Honestly I haven't tried to run Windows software with Edubuntu. [08:48] I see... [08:49] Well, that definitely makes sense, but might be tricky. [08:49] i thought of terminal sessions [08:49] I'm more worried about whether wine can run that software. [08:50] I expect it just comes down to what wine can do. [08:50] yup [08:51] the problem is that nobody can tell (but they want to know) [08:51] Do you have a copy of that software? Can you just try it? [08:52] As a teacher to lend you a book? [08:52] ask [08:52] i could test the software for this year, but everything could change next year [08:52] :( [08:53] That's a problem. Would the software at least be similar? === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:53] I wouldn't count on wine working. [08:53] It works well with some programs and is useless for others, and I couldn't predict for which programs it will work. [08:54] this IS the problem [08:54] any alternative to wine [08:55] Can you afford a copy of vmware or win4lin? [08:55] i thought of citrix,... running on M$ [08:56] software installation should be very easy (for teachers!) [08:59] the best solution would be to buy only school-software running on linux (in my dreams :) [08:59] :) [09:00] Can you afford vmware or win4lin though? [09:00] Are those viable options? [09:01] could be, if the price is resonable [09:02] but the usage of this classroom is about 4-8 hours per week [09:03] users age :6-10 [09:03] Ok. [09:03] it should be rather cheap [09:04] i think i give wine a try [09:04] I haven't looked at Win4Lin in years, but last I checked it was affordable. [09:04] And Vmware expensive. [09:05] So, you can try wine as an ideal solution and keep win4lin as a fallback if wine doesn't work. [09:05] wish me luck :) [09:05] :) [09:05] thanks for talking, bye [09:05] bye === pc22 [n=pc17@222.126.13.162] has joined #edubuntu === SeanTater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:14] im having a badtime restoring my grub, pls help === SeanTater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp448.bih.net.ba] has joined #edubuntu [09:24] hi everyone! [09:31] yo [09:32] :) [09:34] pc22: What's the problem with grub? [09:37] i reinstalled xp now grub wont appear === DanielC thinks [09:38] Trying to remember how to fix this... [09:38] pc22: juts reinstall grub again with live cd or something similar [09:38] xp installs ntldr into mbr [09:38] EmxBA: Yes, but how. [09:38] ? [09:38] With lilo you just run the 'lilo' command. [09:38] With grub what do you do? [09:39] just boot knoppix and edit menu.lst [09:39] then grub-install [09:39] Well, menu.lst should be untouched, so it's just "grub-install" then. [09:39] Of course, you'd have to chroot first. [09:40] yeah [09:40] i dont know how to mount etc [09:40] Or you could copy the menu.lst from your partition onto the virtual operating system and run grub-install there. [09:40] i need a step by step heheheh [09:40] yes [09:40] pc22: sure, no problem. [09:40] pc22: Do you have the computer in front of you? [09:40] pc22: Step 1 is to boot from a Live CD. [09:41] yea i have it here in my side [09:41] Now open a terminal. [09:41] ok im using knoppix\ [09:41] Become root. [09:42] ok [09:42] Make a directory (mkdir ubuntu) [09:43] then [09:43] Now, do you remember on which partition you installed Ubuntu? (e.g. /dev/hda1) [09:44] hdc1 === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp448.bih.net.ba] has left #edubuntu [] [09:44] Ok: mount /dev/hdc1 ubuntu [09:44] If you type "ls ubuntu" you should see your regular Ubuntu file system. [09:47] Ok, I'll assume that worked. [09:47] Then run: chroot ubuntu [09:47] At this point you are root in your Ubuntu system. [09:48] Run "grub-install". [09:48] Now you're done. [09:48] it says hdc1 does not exist [09:49] could it be hd0 [09:49] Run "fdisk /dev/hdc" [09:49] press p to see a list of partitions on that disk. [09:49] hd0 can't be right, they are all of the form hd [09:50] unable to open /dev/hdc [09:50] Try hda or hdb [09:51] hdc would be an unusual place for your operating system, hda is much more common. [09:51] all unable [09:51] This is odd... [09:51] Are you *positive* you are root? [09:52] My guess is that you aren't. [09:52] Does the prompt have a # symbol or a $ sign? [09:52] # means root and $ means regular user. [09:52] Type "su" to become root. [09:52] yeah im root with knoppix [09:52] # [09:53] I don't know what to suggest. [09:53] i guess i just have to reinstall [09:53] anyway thanks a lot [09:54] Sorry I couldn't help. === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:56] i just jotted down the details === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono@ALagny-109-1-10-209.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ALagny-109-1-10-209.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [10:07] rodarvus: howdy! [10:07] hooray :) === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.121.207.228] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:20] evenin all [10:20] hi LaserJock [10:20] hi cbx33 [10:21] hey HedgeMage [10:24] good evening [10:25] hi jsgotangco [10:25] hey cbx33 === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-127-174.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [10:58] G'day HedgeMage [10:58] thanks for babysitting the channel earlier [10:59] hi cbx33 [11:01] hi Yagisan [11:01] np [11:01] Yagisan: may I /msg you? === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-234-17.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [11:12] tried the recent gisomount? [11:12] hi pygi [11:13] HedgeMage, was it something you said? [11:13] apparently :P === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp448.bih.net.ba] has joined #edubuntu [11:15] hi again :) [11:17] hi EmxBA get my email? [11:17] just a sec [11:19] yes, I've seen it now [11:19] i am curretly very busy with possible debconf7 in bosnia [11:19] but i can arrange something [11:19] anyway, i can help [11:25] cool :) [11:25] just wanted to make sure you got it, had a problem with one of the other addresses it went to [11:27] ok [11:27] emx@linux.org.ba is right [11:29] :) [11:29] :) [11:29] np [11:29] anybody can offer a summer job in San Francisco, CA? [11:30] i cannot [11:30] i live in europe :) === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [11:33] i think this image is old [11:33] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/Installation?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=cdboot.png [11:34] when i boot edubuntu cd i just get options "boot live cd" , "safe graphics..." and so.. === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-165-127-174.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu [12:04] hehe [12:04] you are idle, aren't you [12:04] gotta go [12:04] see ya [12:04] ! === EmxBA [n=emx@as58-ob1.dlp448.bih.net.ba] has left #edubuntu [] [12:04] EmxBA: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/