[12:04] <JavaByte> i guess no one knows right? i'll go try it :S
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: http://pastebin.com/715513 (those are all you need to change - the http accelerator stuff is probably not needed for you but I use it for transparant proxying)
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: It is worth reading the docs but for just getting it working thats pretty much all you need to do (you can increase the cache size change to diskd and do loads of other interesting stuff)
[12:07] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: it says that i should define af driver by "wpa-driver -something-", but which driver?
[12:07] <SurfnKid> ok
[12:08] <SurfnKid> let me try that
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: try wext (if that doesn't work try ipw - its quite new so it should support wext)
[12:08] <oomph_> anyone gotten the thinkpad volume keys to work?
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> mikkell: What interface is the wireless one ?
[12:09] <oomph_> if so, how? i tried using xbindkeys
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> mikkell: i.e eth0 eth1 or some other name ?
[12:09] <mikkelk> eth1
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: if you do iwlist eth1 scan (can you see the accesspoint)
[12:10] <SurfnKid> no wonder
[12:10] <SurfnKid> says deny all
[12:10] <Tommy2k4> any way to check if konsole is working?
[12:10] <Tommy2k4> cos im installing something with apt-get and its been on "Setting up libidn11-dev (0.5.18-1) ..." for ages
[12:10] <mikkelk> Yes i can
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> SurfnKid: Makes sense so people who just install it without understanding what it has done don't end up running open proxies
[12:10] <Tommy2k4> wait nvm i accidentally had it scrolled up :p
[12:10] <Anfangs> :)
[12:11] <serenity> is there something like "eyetoy" available for linux? (Cam-based games)
[12:11] <slow-motion> n8
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: Have you removed knetworkmanager and networkmanger ? (The daemon may interfere with wpa_supplicant if its still running)
[12:11] <Anfangs> so i just installed kubuntu - ive been usung ubuntu. where is there a wiki or guide for getting drivers, codecs, etc for kubuntu?
[12:11] <mikkelk> i am perfectly able to connect to unsecure wireless networks...
[12:11] <mikkelk> yes i have removed it...
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: I don't think networkmanager can worth thru wext (at least not in my experience)
[12:12] <mikkelk> well...could you guide me through setting it up in another way?
[12:13] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: yea kind of like an smtp relay server, its not enabled by default or else you'd be open to hell
[12:13] <mikkelk> I am pretty knew to this...
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: Are you using wpa1 or wpa2 ?
[12:14] <mikkelk> wpa1
[12:16] <oomph_> anyone here run IBM thinkpad?
[12:16] <oomph_> with their kubuntu install?
[12:17] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: Can you use nano ? (to edit /etc/network/interfaces ?) You need to add a section similar to this (if one doesn't exist) http://pastebin.com/715528
[12:17] <vge> <3 kubuntu
[12:17] <vge> ;-)
[12:18] <uniq> gnite guys.
[12:18] <oomph_> vge do you?
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> uniq: gnite
[12:18] <vge> well,  works for me after 5 months
[12:18] <oomph_> if so, how did you get your volume and mute buttons to map?
[12:18] <mikkelk> done that
[12:19] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: now run sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1
[12:19] <vge> my comps dont have those sry
[12:20] <Tommy2k4> sudo: ./Makefile: command not found
[12:20] <vge> oomph_: and those are really not kubuntu problems if you think they are, linux in general dont you aggree?
[12:20] <Tommy2k4> how can i get it to work
[12:21] <larson9999> how do i add my windows drive to grub?
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: There is an example in /boot/grub/menu.lst (put it underneath the debian automagic kernels line)
[12:22] <mikkelk> Result: http://pastebin.com/715541
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: right at the bottom (the example is near the top but commented out)
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: try running sudo wpa_cli
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: and typing status
[12:24] <mikkelk> wpa_state=SCANNING
[12:25] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i don't think that example will work for me.  do i need hd1,0 if it's on the 2nd drive?  and do i need 'boot' instead of chainloader?
[12:25] <Tommy2k4> where can i get automake 1.6.1
[12:25] <Tommy2k4> apt-get only gets 1.4
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: try automake 1.9
[12:25] <Tommy2k4> ty
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: Which driver has windows on it in linux notation if you like (you need chainloader to boot windows)
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: partition sorry
[12:27] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: windows is on hdb1
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> hmm i got automake1.9 but it says says i have 1.4-p6 and so does automake --version
[12:27] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: That would be (hd1,0) then unless you don't have hda
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: All you need is exactly as the example is above but with root (hd1,0)
[12:29] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: any ideas?
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: are you in wpa_cli ?
[12:30] <smanen> hi
[12:30] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: ok here goes
[12:30] <mikkelk> yes
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: pastebin the output of status
[12:30] <smanen> can anyone tell me if there is any way to resize a linux partition within linux?
[12:30] <futlib> hi, I'm using ubuntu on a laptop and all the hotkeys work fine in gnome. I installed kubuntu-desktop, and none work in KDE
[12:30] <smanen> im using qparted
[12:31] <futlib> is there anything (not too complicated) to make them work in kde?
[12:31] <smanen> how can i resize a linux partition within linux?
[12:31] <futlib> same goes for xfce4 btw, but that's not important here
[12:32] <vge> smanen: try app named gparted
[12:32] <SurfnKid> h3sp4wn: proxy works :) webmin doesnt who cares but the aptget is still not, i gotta look more into that
[12:32] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: it just says: wpa_state=SCANNING
[12:32] <MidMark> guys for and amd64 not running amd64 kernel is better: i386, i686 or k7 kernel?
[12:33] <smanen> is it possible to resize a linux partition within linux?
[12:33] <oomph> ok solved my thinkpad problem
[12:33] <oomph> kmilo needed to be installed
[12:33] <vge> smanen: did you try the app i mentioned? yes
[12:34] <smanen> how can i private message vge?
[12:34] <SurfnKid> what was it oomph
[12:34] <vge> you need to be registered in this network
[12:34] <edgy> Hi, Today I booted my kubuntu and it just display that blue kubuntu word on a black screen and stopped. it doesn't boot except in recovery mood, what am I supposed to do??
[12:35] <chess> whats best way to install a tar.gz download
[12:35] <word> edgy: does it just show the blue screen or does it load something and then stop?
[12:35] <edgy> chess: you need to read the install file inside the folder extracted
[12:35] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: ???
[12:36] <chess> ty edgy
[12:36] <edgy> no just the word kubuntu and the blue ribbon before it. no sucess or fail messages at all
[12:36] <word> edgy: Have you editted your xorg.conf file lately?
[12:36] <edgy> chess: you are welcome
[12:36] <edgy> word: aha! yes I removed the wacom input device yesterday
[12:36] <MidMark> guys for an athlon64 not running amd64 kernel is better: i386, i686 or k7 kernel?
[12:37] <edgy> word: could that be the problem?
[12:37] <word> edgy: Theres a reference to that device somewhere farther down in the file that you also need to comment out/remove
[12:38] <edgy> word: ok I would boot in recovery mode and check ...
[12:38] <edgy> word: and by the way I was wrong it brings some messages and then stop at that screen sorry
[12:38] <word> edgy: It's in 'ServerLayout
[12:39] <tuxcicles> I think I am going to upgrade to dapper, is it as simple at apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:39] <word> edgy: Ok try and write down those messages and pu t them in a paste-bin
[12:39] <edgy> tuxcicles: you need to modify your /etc/apt/sources first
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: just give a second I need to check something
[12:39] <futlib> ideas about my hotkeys issue anyone?
[12:39] <edgy> tuxcicles: and put dapper instead of whatever you had first
[12:40] <bernier> hi, I just reinstalaled kubuntu and I have no icons on my desktop. How can i enable the /home/"username" icon?
[12:40] <tuxcicles> yea, I think I will go to easysource and build a new one
[12:40] <edgy> word: on ServerLayout I removed three lines related and booting now ...
[12:41] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: Ok
[12:41] <edgy> bernier: is it a fresh install?
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: try adding wpa-conf managed (to the top of the /etc/network/interfaces section and then trying again)
[12:42] <bernier> edgy: conpletely
[12:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > question for someone
[12:42] <bernier> completely*
[12:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i need to resize my /home partition
[12:42] <tuxcicles> i am just afraid of loosing my ati fglrx when updating, because Ive tried it before, and it didn't work, and all my data in kontact, because the new may not read the old. Anyone have ploblems like that after an upgrade?
[12:42] <edgy> word: you saved my day. Just removing those lines solved it. Thanks
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: (sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1
[12:42] <word> edgy: No problem.
[12:43] <edgy> bernier: and you checked the md4sum of the iso first? you shouldn't have such a problem!
[12:43] <oomph> has anyone experienced problems with getting amarok to run?
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: Also try getting rid of the wpa-driver line (I don't think its needed)
[12:43] <oomph> to play MP3s
[12:43] <oomph> the application runs but once I build my media
[12:43] <oomph> it doesnt play the songs
[12:44] <edgy> oomph: you have w32codes installed?
[12:44] <bernier> edgy: I installed it once, everything was fine. Today i formatted twice and the 2 times i had no icons on my desktop. i can go to /home/bernier but the icon ain't on the desktop
[12:44] <oomph> do i need that for mp3s?
[12:44] <oomph> mp3s play on xmms
[12:44] <mikkelk> Same result...
[12:44] <oomph> without a hitch
[12:45] <vge> oomph: did you try to play single mp3 on amarok?
[12:45] <oomph> yes
[12:45] <vge> no good?
[12:45] <mikkelk> This is what i looks like know: http://pastebin.com/715587
[12:46] <oomph> nope
[12:46] <oomph> trying something one sec
[12:47] <edgy> bernier: strange! you formatted even the home partition or kept it from a previous install?
[12:47] <edgy> oomph: yes
[12:47] <edgy> oomph: for me it works properly
[12:47] <bernier> edgy: well i completely formated using the live CD. and chose my whole hard drive to install
[12:48] <edgy> bernier: if you did ls -la /home/bernier/Desktop what do you get?
[12:49] <bernier> drwx------ 3 bernier bernier 4096 2006-06-17 18:14 .
[12:49] <bernier> drwxr-xr-x 7 bernier bernier 4096 2006-06-17 18:40 ..
[12:49] <bernier> -rw-r--r-- 1 bernier bernier   69 2006-06-17 15:24 .directory
[12:49] <bernier> drwxr-xr-x 2 bernier bernier 4096 2006-06-17 18:14 Frank
[12:49] <bernier> -rw-r--r-- 1 bernier bernier    2 2006-06-17 18:11 sources.list~
[12:49] <bernier> frank and sources.list were made by me
[12:51] <oomph> still can't seem to get amarok to play
[12:51] <oomph> it mounts the media and recognizes the tags
[12:51] <oomph> but when i go to play
[12:51] <oomph> it skips past it
[12:52] <RawSewage> Ok
[12:52] <RawSewage> Do you have multiverse enabled
[12:52] <bernier> any idea edgy?
[12:53] <oomph> let me check
[12:53] <edgy> bernier: and what's this .directory?
[12:53] <bernier> no idea
[12:53] <oomph> how do you enable multiverse?
[12:53] <bernier> don have that on my desktop
[12:53] <RawSewage> alt+f2    adept
[12:53] <RawSewage> Repositories
[12:53] <edgy> bernier: ok can you try making a new user and try to login with it?
[12:53] <RawSewage> Manage Repos
[12:53] <bernier> ok
[12:54] <edgy> bernier: oh! wait
[12:54] <bernier> yes?
[12:54] <edgy> bernier: what type of icons you expect on the desktop?
[12:54] <bernier> a directory of /home/bernier
[12:54] <bernier> a "link" to it
[12:55] <edgy> bernier: ok right-click on your desktop
[12:56] <edgy> bernier: configure desktop
[12:56] <bernier> then?
[12:56] <pradeepto> what is the difference between the Desktop CD and the Alternate CD?
[12:56] <oomph> amarok is opening the file but not playing anything
[12:56] <RawSewage> we're not done
[12:57] <edgy> bernier: behaviour -> device icons
[12:57] <pradeepto> Is Alternate CD == text install like before?
[12:57] <bernier> ok
[12:57] <bernier> after?
[12:57] <RawSewage> oomph, if you follow my instructions, youll have it playing
[12:57] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: Any new ideas?
[12:57] <oomph> ok
[12:57] <oomph> im listening
[12:57] <RawSewage> did you go to adept
[12:57] <oomph> yes im in
[12:57] <RawSewage> Adept - Manage Repos
[12:57] <edgy> bernier: mounted hard disk volume
[12:58] <oomph> ok
[12:58] <edgy> bernier: check it and any thing you want
[12:58] <RawSewage> enable all the grayed out multiverse and universe
[12:58] <bernier> edgy: it creates a link to my hard drive
[12:58] <oomph> i got them all enabled
[12:58] <RawSewage> also, in the compenents column , where it says universe, double click and add  multiverse to it
[12:58] <pradeepto> and ideas anyone?
[12:58] <oomph> already had em
[12:58] <RawSewage> so that it says  universe multiverse
[12:58] <oomph> yes, enabled
[12:58] <pradeepto> What is Alternate CD ?
[12:59] <RawSewage> also, in the compenents column , where it says universe, double click and add  multiverse to it
[12:59] <RawSewage> you have to type it in
[12:59] <RawSewage> so that it says  universe multiverse
[12:59] <RawSewage> you did that?
[12:59] <chavo> pradeepto, text installer
[12:59] <oomph> one sec
[12:59] <pradeepto> chavo: thanks :)
[12:59] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how can i unmount /home ?
[01:00] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[01:00] <edgy> bernier: ok now form it you can reach your home directory, right? ;)
[01:00] <bernier> yup
[01:00] <edgy> bernier: is this ok for you?
[01:00] <oomph> raw: for this repository http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[01:00] <mikkelk> http://pastebin.com/715587
[01:01] <bernier> i dont understand what you mean
[01:01] <RawSewage> huh
[01:01] <RawSewage> did you do what I said
[01:01] <RawSewage> also, in the compenents column , where it says universe, double click and add  multiverse to it
[01:01] <RawSewage> you have to type it in
[01:02] <RawSewage> so that it says  universe multiverse
[01:02] <oomph> yeah it doesnt seem to save
[01:02] <oomph> when i try to edit and apply
[01:02] <RawSewage> you have to hit Enter after
[01:02] <RawSewage> its tricky that way
[01:02] <RawSewage> after you type, hit Enter
[01:02] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: All of the file: http://pastebin.com/715611
[01:03] <oomph> ok done
[01:03] <RawSewage> Fetch Update
[01:03] <oomph> now fetch updateS?
[01:03] <RawSewage> yes
[01:03] <edgy> bernier: I mean kubuntu dapper don't put icons on the desktop
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: You need to change the ssid and passphrase to what is on the router yes ?
[01:03] <edgy> bernier: but you can make it in your own
[01:03] <edgy> bernier: I just noticed this
[01:03] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: I have done that - I just removed it when placing it on pastebin
[01:04] <RawSewage> oomph, one last step
[01:04] <oomph> ok
[01:04] <RawSewage> when it's done, close Adept, open a terminal
[01:04] <linuxmonkey> !xgl
[01:04] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:04] <oomph> ok
[01:04] <RawSewage> and type   sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: try running wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase (it will generate an encrypted password)
[01:05] <bernier> ok thanks
[01:05] <RawSewage> oomph, it should work now
[01:05] <edgy> bernier: you can just right-click and make a shortcut to /home/bernier too
[01:05] <inc|freaky> hi all :)
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> mikkelk: wpa-psk 7cccf4e9f2065dc333c7254jruijiejgih55f924kgowekokgweijdc56cf20f5d04 (should be the line instead of wpa-passphrase)
[01:05] <inc|freaky> can someone tell me, when there will be something like a treeview of the chantabs or something in konversation?
[01:05] <inc|freaky> oops, wrong channel sorry
[01:06] <oomph> raw: thanks it does indeed
[01:06] <oomph> appreciate your time
[01:06] <oomph> works great
[01:06] <RawSewage> ok
[01:07] <mikkelk> h3sp4wn: hmm...same result again
[01:08] <neko> when installing from source, is there a specific way of doing things so that it coexists as nicely as possibly with the apt system?
[01:08] <tuxcicles> anyone know if upgrading to dapper will leave a bunch of breezy orphans behind or garbage my system?  I sure hate installing from scratch :P
[01:10] <neko> tux: the main problems I've had so far with upgrading are that I lost sound (which turned out to be that KDE reset a load of my settings), and that printing is pretty much screwed
[01:10] <RawSewage> Is printing screwed in a fresh install?
[01:10] <neko> well, that's after the whole thing of needing to manually install kubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <neko> but that's in the known problems on the website
[01:11] <neko> RawSewage: I believe so
[01:11] <RawSewage> But he wants to know if upgrading will leave orphans behind
[01:11] <neko> or garbage his system
[01:12] <RawSewage> meaning henceforth useless bits of old software
[01:12] <RawSewage> or does it tidy up neatly behind it
[01:12] <neko> I dunno about orphans, but there's certain elements of my system that I would definitely called trashed
[01:12] <RawSewage> I do fresh installs
[01:12] <neko> ah, I'm thinking of the other meaning for garbaging a system
[01:13] <RawSewage> then again, I pretty much switched to Linux a few weeks ago
[01:13] <RawSewage> cold turkey from Windows
[01:13] <oomph> raw: that is what im doing too
[01:13] <RawSewage> I knew 0 about Linux
[01:13] <oomph> trying to at least
[01:13] <oomph> raw: what distros did you try/
[01:14] <RawSewage> Youll go throuh a few stages
[01:14] <RawSewage> The first is, youll try to get Windows-like apps, or use Wine
[01:14] <RawSewage> I started with Ubuntu, then to Kubuntu
[01:14] <neko> in my experiance switching to linux is easier than going in the opposite direction at least
[01:14] <james_xxx> i switched to linux about 2 months ago cold-turkey (almost) and i have had to do a number on re-installs lol
[01:14] <RawSewage> lol Ive never heard of anyone going from Linux to Windows
[01:15] <RawSewage> Yes, Im an expert at installing now
[01:15] <oomph> hehe
[01:15] <RawSewage> I'd mess things up and want a clean start, so reinstalled everything with the latest build
[01:15] <neko> when I got a laptop earlier on in the year I left windows on it for playing games
[01:15] <oomph> much difference between kubuntu vs ubuntu aside from gnome and kde?
[01:15] <pedro_> hello
[01:15] <RawSewage> no
[01:15] <neko> I hate using it for anything other than the most basic of tasks though
[01:16] <pedro_> could someone help me ?
[01:16] <neko> it's also trashed itself several times, and it's damn annoying losing all the settings when you reinstall
[01:16] <oomph> ever tried cdega? for games?
[01:17] <vge> neko: well, windows is the most userfriendly software out there
[01:17] <RawSewage> once you get past the confusion of command lines, you start to find things in Linux that are really cool that Windows doesnt have, and youll wonder how you survived without them
[01:17] <neko> WineX?
[01:17] <neko> vge: you're kidding me, right?
[01:17] <RawSewage> I havent tried Cedega
[01:17] <vge> neko: nope
[01:17] <neko> I've used WineX before, and it barely worked at all, so I stopped paying
[01:18] <RawSewage> when was that
[01:18] <james_xxx> on the other hand, i still think that linux is pretty far behind windoes when it comes to multi-media
[01:18] <RawSewage> Cedega's supposed to be good
[01:18] <RawSewage> I think Microsoft is on the way down
[01:18] <RawSewage> and Linux is on the way up
[01:18] <neko> vge: the only people I can see windows itself being more user friendly to are people who are already stuck in the windows mindset
[01:18] <james_xxx> ii am 80-90% windoze free, but it will be a while before that moves toward 100%
[01:19] <RawSewage> I miss a few Windows programs
[01:19] <RawSewage> I still have to use Wine for QuickPar
[01:19] <neko> vge: having approached the issue from both directions, I better adapted to linux from being in a windows mindset than I adapt to windows from the linux mindset
[01:20] <oomph> what is quickpar?
[01:20] <RawSewage> Windows is pretty much a fixed environment
[01:20] <RawSewage> In Linux, if theres something you dont like, you can usually change it
[01:20] <vge> neko: well, debends highly what you do with the enviroment
[01:21] <RawSewage> QuickPar is for par2 repair, useful for Usenet downloads
[01:21] <oomph> yeah, linux is fantastic
[01:21] <RawSewage> If you dont download from Usenet, I doubt youd need par files
[01:21] <oomph> which usenet do you use?
[01:21] <pedro_> usenet or binaries newsgroup in general
[01:21] <oomph> i use mainly torrents
[01:21] <RawSewage> when I had money, I used NewsHosting
[01:22] <RawSewage> binaries
[01:22] <neko> vge: I'd say it's more to do with /how/ you try to use the environment - the best test would be to see how blank slates adapt to each OS
[01:22] <pedro_> could someone help me with kubuntu adept ???
[01:22] <pedro_> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[01:22] <pedro_> i see it everytime i launch adept
[01:22] <RawSewage> Close the Add/Remove program thing
[01:22] <neko> pedro_: adept crashed on you?
[01:22] <RawSewage> you have another running instance
[01:23] <pedro_> i tried to reboot but thats the same
[01:23] <neko> I've had it happen several times that adept crashes, and then leaves the lock in place
[01:23] <pedro_> i'm new with kubuntu something like 2 hours
[01:23] <RawSewage> oh
[01:23] <RawSewage> Ive never had that
[01:23] <pedro_> so what 's the solution ?
[01:23] <Tommy2k4> is it possible to open a txt file from konsole eg with kate without having to close the text file before using the same konsole again
[01:23] <RawSewage> are you sure you dont have one running on another desktop?
[01:24] <pedro_> how can i know that N?
[01:24] <pedro_> is there a taskmanager ?
[01:24] <chavo> Tommy2k4, kate file &
[01:24] <RawSewage> yes
[01:24] <neko> run "apt-get update"
[01:24] <Tommy2k4> ctrl + esc pedro_
[01:24] <pedro_> lol
[01:24] <neko> it should tell you to run something else
[01:24] <RawSewage> ksysguard
[01:24] <neko> "dpkg --configure -a" I think
[01:25] <pedro_> pedro@pedro-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[01:25] <pedro_> E: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier verrou /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Perm
[01:25] <word> there's been a gui task manager all this time and i've been using top in commandline..
[01:25] <RawSewage> lol
[01:25] <crimsun> don't underestimate top(1)
[01:25] <word> crimsun:  :P
[01:25] <crimsun> it's one of the sleeper utilities in procps
[01:25] <pedro_> i tried dpkg --configure -a
[01:25] <chavo> apt-get install htop <- a really nice commandline task manager
[01:25] <pedro_> something happens
[01:26] <neko> try opening adept now
[01:26] <thoreauputic> pedro_: sudo apt-get update mon ami
[01:26] <pedro_> it installs flashplugins for mozilla
[01:26] <pedro_> are u french ?
[01:26] <pedro_> that could help me lol
[01:26] <thoreauputic> pedro_: no je suis Australien :)
[01:26] <pedro_> dpkg dont work
[01:27] <pedro_> mais tu parle francais :-)
[01:27] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[01:27] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:27] <pedro_> je suis sauv alors
[01:27] <neko> just realised, I was running that as root
[01:27] <thoreauputic> 1fr
[01:27] <thoreauputic> !fr
[01:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:27] <vge> no parle pa france, tyst ny tango, stana pt kii
[01:27] <neko> try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:27] <pedro_> i can explain in french why it doesnt work
[01:27] <pedro_> in english is not very easy for me
[01:27] <word> pedro_: Are you using sudo
[01:28] <pedro_> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:28] <RawSewage> http://translate.google.com/translate_t
[01:28] <pedro_> dpkg: la zone de la base de donnes d'tat est verrouille par un autre processus
[01:28] <pedro_> dkpg say that
[01:28] <pedro_> dpkg: la zone de la base de donnes d'tat est verrouille par un autre processus
[01:28] <vge> !fi
[01:28] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[01:28] <word> pedro_: I don't think dpkg should have a problem with adept running..
[01:28] <thoreauputic> pedro_: tu as un autre apt ou synaptic ou adept ouvert je crois
[01:29] <Linuxnoob> moins
[01:29] <Linuxnoob>  weiss jemand vll warum zb bei konquerer sich die seiten solang aufbauen? ich hab dsl3000 aber geht so lahm wie isdn?
[01:29] <pedro_> oui jai bien qqchose douvert mais pas visible
[01:29] <pedro_> je pense cest la mise a jour du plugins flash pr mozilla
[01:29] <pedro_> linstall a planter et depuis j'ai ce pb
[01:30] <nnn0> :)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> pedro_: c'est l'anglais ici - ?join #ubuntu-fr pour le Francais
[01:30] <thoreauputic> er - ?join #ubuntu-fr
[01:30] <thoreauputic> hahah
[01:30] <nnn0> :)
[01:31] <thoreauputic> I mean /
[01:31] <neko>  /join
[01:31] <thoreauputic> right
[01:31] <Tommy2k4> !mplayer
[01:31] <pedro_> ok then i try speaking in english
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:31] <thoreauputic> :))
[01:31] <pedro_> i have a process called update-flashpu
[01:31] <pedro_> i tried to kill this process but i have no permission
[01:31] <pedro_> i'm sure that's my problem
[01:31] <nnn0> are you root ?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> pedro_: sudo killall update-flashlugin or whatevr it is
[01:32] <thoreauputic> minus the typos of course...
[01:32] <pedro_> im the only user
[01:33] <bernier> hi, while using ./configure, i get that error:
[01:33] <bernier> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
[01:33] <bernier> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:33] <Tommy2k4> to compile mplayer plugin for opera must i --enable-x?
[01:33] <thoreauputic> !tell pedro_ about sudo
[01:33] <oomph> raw: is newhosting a good usenet service?
[01:34] <RawSewage> yes
[01:34] <pedro_> pedro@pedro-desktop:~$ sudo killall update-flashlugin
[01:34] <pedro_> update-flashlugin: aucun processus tu
[01:34] <thoreauputic> pedro_: there was a typo
[01:34] <crimsun> ``sudo pkill update-flashplugin''
[01:34] <nnn0> :)
[01:34] <RawSewage> oomph, get the unlimited monthly  14.95
[01:35] <thoreauputic> pedro_: do crimsun 's command
[01:35] <oomph> oh ya?
[01:35] <oomph> thats pretty good
[01:35] <oomph> they got everything therE>
[01:35] <oomph> ?
[01:35] <pedro_> crimsun ?
[01:35] <RawSewage> oomph, have you used Usenet
[01:35] <thoreauputic> pedro_: he said:  sudo pkill update-flashplugin
[01:36] <thoreauputic> pedro_: use that
[01:36] <RawSewage> It's a lot easier to use Usenet on Windows
[01:36] <RawSewage> for binaries
[01:36] <pedro_> flashplugin process was killed
[01:36] <pedro_> thank you
[01:37] <pedro_> but adept dont want to launch
[01:37] <pedro_> always the same error
[01:37] <crimsun> what error?
[01:37] <RawSewage> The database locked error, in use
[01:38] <crimsun> did you kill apt-get/aptitude/adept/dpkg ?
[01:39] <pedro_> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[01:39] <pedro_> this error
[01:40] <crimsun> does that occur with apt-get, too?
[01:40] <pedro_> u mean in konsole ?
[01:42] <neko> thought on the printing front... would installing breezy's version of CUPS work?
[01:54] <RawSewage> test
[01:56] <bernier> hi, while rinning ./configure for Gaim i got that error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715678
[01:58] <oomph> raw: you still therE?
[01:58] <oomph> had to go afk
[01:59] <diiiego> !nvidia
[01:59] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:00] <RawSewage> oomph, yes
[02:01] <RadiantFire> bernier: you want to install libgtk2.0-dev
[02:01] <bernier> radiantfire: i just did it
[02:02] <RadiantFire> did it work?
[02:02] <diiiego> !xgl
[02:02] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:02] <bernier> radiantfire: well yes it did
[02:02] <bernier> I had another error mesaage before i install it
[02:02] <chavo> bernier, sudo apt-get build-dep gaim <- that will egt you all the headers you need to build gaim
[02:03] <smanen> how can i register?
[02:05] <oomph> raw: yes ive used usenet before
[02:05] <oomph> long time ago
[02:05] <DrNickRiviera> is it normal for stuff like kicker and knotify to take up 30mb of ram?
[02:05] <RawSewage> It's easier on Windows
[02:06] <smanen> does anone know how can i resize my linux partition inside linux?
[02:06] <smanen> i have tried gparted and qparted
[02:07] <chavo> DrNickRiviera, they probably aren't taking that much each, it's just the way linux show shared memory
[02:07] <nnn0> DrNickRiviera, yes
[02:07] <smanen> but they do not allow me to modify it much
[02:07] <nnn0> smanen, you can't resize the partition you use
[02:07] <DrNickRiviera> if i run top, the mem row only applies to physical memory though, doesn't it?
[02:08] <DrNickRiviera> because i've got 1gb of ram and i only seem to have 10mb free most of the time
[02:08] <oomph> whats a good kde ftp client?
[02:09] <DrNickRiviera> and that's not really running that many programs, mainly firefox, amarok, gaim, mysql, apache2 and the stuff that kubuntu sets up automatically
[02:09] <diiiego> oomph ---> muddleftp
[02:10] <mart> pradeepto: ooh, you just got a mention on the planet :)
[02:10] <chavo> DrNickRiviera, linux uses ram cache aggresively and tries to avoid swap
[02:10] <mart> in Adriaan de Groot's blog - is that you?
[02:10] <chavo> if an app needs ram the cache is freed up
[02:11] <RawSewage> oomph, Konqueror
[02:11] <RawSewage> oh
[02:11] <chavo> konq works great for simple ftp stuff
[02:11] <angel> @DrNickRiviera: Linux will use as much of the available physical memory as possible as disk cache, to speed up the system performance
[02:11] <RawSewage> I was a hardcore Firefox user, but now I even use Konqueror for my browser
[02:12] <angel> @DrNickRiviera: If you have a small amount of Free Physical Memory and a large amount of Disk Cache Memory, your system is well configured.
[02:13] <DrNickRiviera> ok, well that definitely applies to my system
[02:13] <Tommy2k4> where do i check how much free space i have
[02:13] <DrNickRiviera> just seems strange, especially with amarok which seems to have 2 processes that use 150mb each
[02:13] <smannell> I am trying to install the ATI drivers, but no matter which method I use the fglrx kernel module does not get loaded, when I try to load it with modprobe I get the following error:FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted  Any ideas
[02:14] <chavo> DrNickRiviera, like I said you're looking at the vm or shared memory, add all them up and it's way more than the physical ram you have
[02:14] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, install kdf , and then run kuickdisk .  it puts an icon in the tray.  you click it and it shows your free space.    or you could type  df -h   in a terminal all the time
[02:14] <RawSewage> I mean kwikdisk
[02:14] <navegante> smannell http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:15] <BioVorE> how much ram dose the kubuntu GUI installer want  192MB?
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> is there an app like WinDirStat for linux
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> 256
[02:15] <BioVorE> ok..
[02:15] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, install kdf , and then run kuickdisk .  it puts an icon in the tray.  you click it and it shows your free space.    or you could type  df -h   in a terminal all the time
[02:16] <Tommy2k4> RawSewage, do you know what WinDirStat is
[02:16] <RawSewage> no
[02:16] <RawSewage> what kind of information do you need to see
[02:16] <Tommy2k4> nvm i found out the linux version is kdirstat
[02:17] <Tommy2k4> graphically shows you your hdd
[02:17] <smannell> navengante: Those are two of the install methods I've tried.  dmesg |grep fglrx yields: [4294893.279000]  [fglrx:firegl_init_module]  *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed.  I don't know what that means
[02:17] <RawSewage> oh
[02:18] <chavo> Tommy2k4, try filelight
[02:18] <Tommy2k4> better than kdirstat?
[02:18] <chavo> never tried kdirstat
[02:19] <Tommy2k4> kdirstat seems good enough :)
[02:19] <Tommy2k4> hm every time i try to delete a file the progress dialogue comes up and stays on 0%
[02:20] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, have you looked at Konqueror with view mode File Size View
[02:20] <RawSewage> I know it's not what youre looking for
[02:20] <RawSewage> it's interesting though
[02:20] <Tommy2k4> its froze konqueror >_<
[02:21] <RawSewage> lol
[02:22] <pradeepto> mart: yes that would be me :)
[02:22] <keffo> kubuntu runs substantially slower than XP on this laptop. any clues as to why?
[02:23] <pradeepto> mart: suddenly all the wristpain is vanishing :)
[02:24] <vge> keffo: kde can eat lots of resources, maby too low swap space or low diskspace?
[02:24] <keffo> vge: not really.
[02:24] <Tommy2k4> how do i empty trash
[02:25] <keffo> vge: you're guessing xubuntu is a better choice?
[02:25] <RawSewage> you can add a Trash  Can applet to the taskbar
[02:25] <Tommy2k4> without doing that
[02:25] <RawSewage> idk
[02:25] <pradeepto> mart: thanks for the pointer, sorry for the late reply though, its pretty much odd hours here
[02:26] <Tommy2k4> k i guess ill have to use that when i need it then
[02:26] <pradeepto> mart: and the wrist pain was really not helping much. Thanks again.
[02:26] <mart> pradeepto: yeah, here odd hours too. :)
[02:26] <Tommy2k4> i have wrist pain
[02:26] <Tommy2k4> my wrist has not been getting as much excersize while ive been on linux because mplayerplugin sucks
[02:27] <RawSewage> what
[02:27] <pradeepto> Tommy2k4: take care man, I have a pretty niggling pain since yesterday.
[02:27] <keffo> dude, keep it to yourself!
[02:27] <Tommy2k4> lol
[02:27] <Tommy2k4> why is it taking forever to delete files / empty trash
[02:27] <Tommy2k4> been on 0% for ages
[02:28] <mart> oh dear.  it always has to descend to that level, doesn't it? :/
[02:28] <crimsun> well if you'd stop putting "excersize" material in the trash...
[02:28] <Tommy2k4> sry :p
[02:28] <Tommy2k4> nope none
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> why does mplayerplug-in have no controls such as play/pause/seek bar
[02:29] <geneo93> !memory
[02:29] <ubotu> memory is, like, http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> is it just cos im using opera?
[02:31] <vge> Tommy2k4: no, same thing in every browser
[02:31] <Tommy2k4> so theres no way to get controls in it?
[02:31] <mart> doesn't it have a right-click menu?
[02:31] <Tommy2k4> nope
[02:31] <Tommy2k4> and the screenys on the homepage show it has controls and a right click menu
[02:31] <Tommy2k4> but mine doesnt :s
[02:32] <vge> well i use firefox with mediaplayerconnectivity and use my favourite player for video files when i need em
[02:34] <Tommy2k4> i only have 2 partitions, windows and /, can i resize the / from inside kubuntu?
[02:34] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, did you try Amarok
[02:34] <Tommy2k4> i use it for playing my music
[02:34] <Tommy2k4> i need a video plugin for a browser thogh
[02:34] <RawSewage> for video, did you try Kaffeine
[02:34] <RawSewage> oh sorry
[02:35] <geneo93> mplayer is best
[02:35] <Tommy2k4> but it has no controls :9
[02:35] <RawSewage> for standalone?
[02:35] <RawSewage> what about vlc
[02:35] <geneo93> sure it does
[02:35] <Tommy2k4> mine doesnt and i dunno why
[02:35] <pradeepto> yes it does have controls
[02:35] <Tommy2k4> it does in the screenys on mplayerplug-in homepage
[02:35] <geneo93> just right click screen
[02:36] <Tommy2k4> no menu comes up
[02:36] <Tommy2k4> ill try it in firefox
[02:36] <pradeepto> even the non-gui one has controls.. short cut keys actually.
[02:36] <Raven301> In the kcontrol panel the theme manager ... Where are the themes located on the hard drive ... which dir ???
[02:37] <LiteHedded> when I go to mount a samba share why does it want the username to be guest?
[02:37] <geneo93> try usr/share/app/kde
[02:37] <RawSewage> LiteHedded, dont even bother with configuring
[02:38] <RawSewage> Samba works best when left as is
[02:38] <LiteHedded> huh?
[02:38] <LiteHedded> don't configure it?
[02:38] <LiteHedded> don't I need to tell it my workgroup?
[02:38] <RawSewage> I spent hours with it , only to realize it worked out of the box
[02:39] <RawSewage> no
[02:39] <keffo> it defaults to mshome, thought
[02:39] <LiteHedded> the default workgroup is mshome
[02:39] <LiteHedded> mine is workgroup
[02:39] <RawSewage> oh
[02:39] <RawSewage> sorry
[02:39] <LiteHedded> all i did was add a share
[02:39] <LiteHedded> i didn't change much else
[02:39] <FisherP> Has anyone had a any problems unlocking a user after switching ??
[02:39] <LiteHedded> when I try to map it on windows it wan't a username and password
[02:39] <LiteHedded> wants
[02:40] <LiteHedded> but the username is greyed out and says Guest
[02:40] <RawSewage> Thats usually because your accdessing it somewhere else
[02:40] <RawSewage> maybe have 2 Konq windows open
[02:40] <LiteHedded> no konqeror windows open
[02:41] <RawSewage> Ok, I only know about mshome
[02:41] <Tommy2k4> is it cos i used --enable-x that mplayerplugin has no gui contorls
[02:42] <RawSewage> mine doesnt have controls either
[02:42] <RawSewage> and it's in the Lost and Found sectin
[02:42] <Tommy2k4> does yours have a right click menu though
[02:42] <RawSewage> no
[02:42] <RawSewage> it sure opens fast though
[02:43] <diiiego> !xgl
[02:43] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:43] <Raven301> geneo93: thanks but no it's not there
[02:43] <RawSewage> !mplayer
[02:43] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:44] <RawSewage> go to adept, and type mplayer
[02:44] <geneo93> its in multiverse i think
[02:45] <RawSewage> it is, but theres lots of related packages
[02:45] <geneo93> yes you prolly want 686
[02:45] <RawSewage> not the plain one?
[02:46] <geneo93> no
[02:46] <RawSewage> ok
[02:46] <geneo93> its just a dummy package
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> am i going blind or does firefox have no preferences window
[02:46] <RawSewage> They moved Preferences since 1.0
[02:47] <geneo93> under edit
[02:47] <Tommy2k4> what a dumb place
[02:47] <RawSewage> they moved it awhile ago though
[02:47] <RawSewage> you mustve been using an old version
[02:47] <geneo93> couple years ago
[02:47] <RawSewage> lol
[02:47] <Tommy2k4> i stopped using firefox at like 0.7
[02:47] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror for my browser
[02:48] <geneo93> i like the full bloat thing i use mozilla
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> i like opera :)
[02:48] <RawSewage> oh
[02:48] <geneo93> much more reliable
[02:48] <Tommy2k4> opera 9 final might be released on monday
[02:53] <FisherP> Has anyone had problems unlocking an X session from switching users ????
[02:56] <FisherP> Has anyone had problems unlocking an X session from switching users ????
[02:57] <RawSewage> Should MPlayer be in the Lost & Found section
[02:59] <RawSewage> FisherP, try   sudo chmod 4755 /usr/bin/kcheckpass
[03:00] <FisherP> RawSwewage, thanks, if I drop out soon it's 'cause it didn't work and I'll be back
[03:01] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:02] <soulrider> can anyone help me ?
[03:02] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4,
[03:02] <RawSewage> I think I found the answer
[03:02] <FisherP> RawSewage, it worked THANKS, now if I can only get my NVIDIA FF 5200 card to work thing will be almost perfect
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> really
[03:02] <RawSewage> cool
[03:03] <RawSewage> did you install kmplayer
[03:03] <RawSewage> KDE interface for MPLayer
[03:03] <soulrider> uhm guys, i just tried the live distro
[03:03] <geneo93> FisherP:  apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:03] <diiiego> sorry, what's the name of the channel for kubuntu xgl?
[03:03] <soulrider> but i dont know how to set up a pppop connection
[03:03] <diiiego> or ubuntu gl is the same thign
[03:03] <LjL> diiiego: i think there's only #ubuntu-xgl
[03:03] <diiiego> tnx
[03:05] <FisherP> geneo93 Yup, if only it was that easy. I've been looking on the forums and Googled it so many times, I've nearly given up. I've run scripts, tried compiling my own, uninstalling, reinstalling. I am starting to think it's my motherboard
[03:06] <RawSewage> did you change that one line from nv to nvidia
[03:06] <RawSewage> I forget where it was though
[03:06] <soulrider> FisherP:  or RawSewage, can someone help me for a sec?
[03:06] <geneo93> well you have to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable after you install it then restartx
[03:06] <FisherP> RawSewage, Yup, even commented out the dri, and GLcore lines
[03:07] <FisherP> Soulrider, fire when ready
[03:07] <soulrider> k
[03:07] <soulrider> i just tried the live Cd for the first time
[03:07] <FisherP> geneo93 sorry, been there, done that
[03:07] <soulrider> but i couldnt figure out how to set up a ppoe connection :P
[03:08] <geneo93> FisherP:  good test is kororaa
[03:08] <FisherP> soulrider, I haven't tried the livecd, but assuming that you have installed it on the hdd I would expect that you should so into the system setings on the menu system
[03:09] <FisherP> geneo93, what's kororaa
[03:09] <soulrider> no, i havnt installed it, im using the live disc
[03:09] <geneo93> live cd with xgl
[03:09] <soulrider> i looked for it everywhere but couldnt find it
[03:09] <soulrider> whats xgl (yes, im horribly newbie)
[03:10] <FisherP> soulrider, ok, there i am at a loss. most distros that I've worked with require you to install it before doing fancy stuff.
[03:10] <Tommy2k4> ok RawSewage i've installed kmplayer now
[03:10] <geneo93> unbelievable graphics
[03:11] <soulrider> oh.. ok
[03:11] <FisherP> geneo93, OK, I'll try it I have mandrive 2006 on another partition but havent' tried to install it on that one since I've moved over to kubuntu
[03:11] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, you probably have to configure it to use mplayer
[03:11] <Tommy2k4> any idea how?
[03:12] <FisherP> geneo93, do you mean it's a live cd with the nvidia drivers active ?????
[03:12] <james_xxx> i had to do a reinstall of kubuntu a few weeks ago, and accidentally installed it to a different partition than i had had it on to begin with. now i have kubuntu on this comp twice.... can i just delete the old installation? will i have to edit grub after that?
[03:12] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, yes, Configure it, its right there
[03:12] <geneo93> FisherP:  yes
[03:13] <RawSewage> Use movie player:
[03:13] <FisherP> james_xxx , yes, most likely you will need to fix the grub as well
[03:13] <james_xxx> fisher ty
[03:13] <james_xxx> FisherP: ty
[03:13] <Anfangs> Is it just me, or is the whole k----- naming scheme in KDE a little corny/irritating?
[03:13] <RawSewage> When you configure shortcuts for KDE apps, is there a way to add mouse things to it to, like mouse roller
[03:14] <RawSewage> I think it's good they use K
[03:14] <RawSewage> it might be korny, but it's konvenient
[03:14] <mart> Anfangs: and if ever there was a conversation that'd been done to death, it would be that...
[03:14] <FisherP> Angfangs, dpends, sometimes it's handy knowing that it's a KDE program, othertimes it's a bit thin.
[03:15] <LjL> the K naming scheme can be a little irritating imho
[03:15] <LjL> the best way to know that a program is a KDE program would be a clear indication in the package, viewable with apt-get
[03:15] <Anfangs> yeah, it is a little handy... but gnome gets by without it.. i mean they have some, but not everything.
[03:15] <LjL> but, in practice, there is already one: just look if kdelibs is a dependency
[03:15] <RawSewage> You know it's Gnome becuse it doesnt have the K
[03:15] <Tommy2k4> ok i set kmplayer to use mplayer in its options
[03:16] <Anfangs> lol
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> you think that now opera mplayerplugin will have gui controls?
[03:16] <Anfangs> Tommy2k4: gnome got the better end of that deal
[03:16] <RawSewage> Tommy2k4, oh, no lol
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> -__-
[03:16] <Anfangs> oops, i mean RawSewage
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> theres a few times ive installed apps before realising they were gnome
[03:16] <FisherP> I've got to keep going on my assigment but thanks for chatting
[03:17] <Anfangs> kopete is pronounced Kay-owe-pee-tee, right?
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> i pronounce it ko pete
[03:17] <DoctorMO> does anyone use Wengo?
[03:17] <mart> Kop-eh-teh.
[03:17] <geneo93> k o pete
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> so RawSewage which problem were you trying to solve
[03:18] <RawSewage> The lack of an interface when playing normallly
[03:18] <Tommy2k4> k
[03:18] <mart> Anfangs: at least, I used to work with one of the kopete developers, and he said Koh-peh-teh.
[03:18] <Tommy2k4> it does, just not in the plugin :(
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> i dont like the fact that ubuntu is pronounced oo boon too
[03:19] <mart> er, but that's a real word though.  you can't retrospectively change it's pronunciation :)
[03:19] <RawSewage> Thats why I switched to Kubuntu
[03:20] <rob> as opposed to koo boon too?
[03:20] <RawSewage> easier to say
[03:20] <Tommy2k4> its the boon bit i dont like, which is still in kubuntu >_<
[03:20] <Tommy2k4> bun sounds so much better
[03:20] <geneo93> now it koo boon too
[03:20] <Anfangs> what about xubuntu.... even worse
[03:20] <Anfangs> ksoo-boon-too?
[03:20] <Tommy2k4> zoo imo
[03:20] <Anfangs> ex-oo-boon-too
[03:20] <RawSewage> x is pronounced z
[03:20] <mart> yeah, zoo- I guess.
[03:21] <Anfangs> lol
[03:21] <geneo93> as in xeons that i have
[03:21] <RawSewage> you can pronounce it however you want though, this is LInux.  everytyhing is configurable
[03:21] <Anfangs> ok, right
[03:21] <Tommy2k4> can i shrink my / partition from inside kubuntu
[03:21] <SystematicDub> true true
[03:21] <Anfangs> yeah, thats why i use lie-nooks.
[03:22] <ron_> hello
[03:22] <mart> Tommy2k4: what file system?
[03:22] <Tommy2k4> ext3
[03:22] <DoctorMO> how am I suposed to test my webcam if wengo is the only thing to do video chatting on linux... hmmf
[03:22] <Tommy2k4> i wanna shrink it and make a fat32 aswe
[03:22] <Tommy2k4> aswell*
[03:22] <Anfangs> DoctorMO: there are other apps
[03:22] <geneo93> lee nuks you mean
[03:22] <mart> Tommy2k4: er, you don't want / to be fat32 :)
[03:22] <Anfangs> DoctorMO: kopete msn has video i think
[03:22] <Tommy2k4> i said make a not make it
[03:23] <mart> oh, I see, sorry.
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> or
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> actually it may not matter
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> windows can read samba shares cant it
[03:23] <mart> uh, you could try using the rescue mode on your install cd to resize it.
[03:23] <mart> yeah...
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> can it write to them?
[03:23] <Anfangs> I don't really like the letter K
[03:24] <mart> Tommy2k4: yeah, but ...
[03:24] <Anfangs> I'd rather it be 'c' or something.
[03:24] <Anfangs> cEdit, cChat, cRap
[03:24] <mart> I don't see how that helps if you were considering repartioning.
[03:25] <mart> Anfangs: woah, you gotta write a new desktop environment now :)
[03:25] <Anfangs> CDE
[03:25] <SystematicDub> (about the pronunciation bit) I've always  said it lee nuks myself (never been in contact with othe Linux user or Kubuntu or Ubuntu users ever so never heard it said) but it sounds good the other way
[03:25] <Tommy2k4> i wont need to repartition if i can just use my network to transfer files
[03:25] <mart> Anfangs: ah, nah.  forget it.  CDE was rubbish.
[03:25] <Anfangs> mart: cKDE
[03:25] <mart> ok
[03:25] <ron_> is ther a way to stop kubuntu from asking for a disk? everytime i try to install firefox it asks me for a disk. i put the disk in hit ok then the comp freezes.
[03:26] <mart> er?
[03:26] <Anfangs> the c stands for cool!
[03:26] <Tommy2k4> or crap
[03:26] <DoctorMO> Anfangs: yea I installed kopete, but the list of accounts I could add where blank and the settings menu was compleatly foo bar. *sigh* ubuntu 6.06
[03:26] <mart> ron_: how are you trying to install firefox?
[03:26] <Anfangs> yup! however youre feeling about linux that day
[03:26] <ron_> apt-get
[03:26] <mart> Anfangs: but k originally stood for kool! :)
[03:26] <Tommy2k4> or krap
[03:27] <mart> DoctorMO: try running kbuildsycoca ?
[03:27] <Tommy2k4> im such a pessimist :p
[03:27] <Anfangs> mart: really? lol
[03:27] <ron_> adept sorry
[03:27] <mart> DoctorMO: then restart
[03:27] <mart> DoctorMO: er, restart kopete of course, not your system.
[03:27] <mart> ron_: and you've put in the installation CD?
[03:28] <DoctorMO> mart: kind of gathered that
[03:28] <Anfangs> i installed Unreal Tourney 2k4 on here... not really sure how to run it now though. It ran it once after install.. now it's lost
[03:28] <ron_> mart: yes then it freezes
[03:28] <mart> DoctorMO: er, yeah, just in case you know, there's a lot of windows converts ;)
[03:28] <mart> ron_: the entire machine freezes?  mouse stops moving?
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> how do i share /home/tommy over my network with samba
[03:29] <ron_> mart: yes
[03:29] <DoctorMO> mart: I havn't used windows since 2001
[03:29] <JavaByte> hey - whats the exact way (i really don;'t wanna screw it up) to install kernel 386, i think i know adept well enough but i'm not sure of the packages i need
[03:29] <mart> ron_: woah, sounds like ropey hardware.
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> windows ftw
[03:29] <mart> DoctorMO: sorry, couldn't tell from your nick :p
[03:29] <ron_> mart: ?
[03:29] <geneo93> 686
[03:30] <mart> ron_: well, doesn't it? freezing on accessing the cd drive is pretty weird.
[03:30] <JavaByte> geneo93: ya typo i meant 686
[03:30] <Anfangs> i'm disappointed I cant get google talk working in kopete
[03:30] <DoctorMO> mart: do a search for my nick, you'll see I've been doing odd jobs for linux and oss for quite a while
[03:30] <mart> Anfangs: works fine here....
[03:30] <geneo93> Anfangs:  try gaim
[03:31] <ron_> mart: i guess so. but why does kubntu ask for the install cd? btw its the dvd install cd if that helps
[03:31] <mart> DoctorMO: uh, not that fussed actually.  I just thought I'd clarify in case you didn't know.  I wasn't trying to be offensive.
[03:31] <mart> gee.  it could get like #debian in here...
[03:31] <Tommy2k4> #kubuntu ftw
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> most helpful irc ive ever been in
[03:32] <Tommy2k4> other than #xxxpaszone on efnet
[03:32] <mart> ron_: because that's probably where it last saw the most recent copy of the package.
[03:32] <geneo93> try gentoo some time
[03:32] <mart> ron_: you could always try removing the line that refers to the dvd from your repositories.
[03:32] <SystematicDub> ok ok I don't know much about debian except it's related to ubuntu... but why is there such adverseness to it?
[03:33] <mart> ron_: the update.
[03:33] <JavaByte> no-one know what packages i need for kernel 686?
[03:33] <geneo93> just comment it out with # before line
[03:33] <mart> SystematicDub: debian is great, it's just that the main irc channel is full of kids who want to show off how geeky they are, while actually looking quite stupid.
[03:33] <ron_> mart: you think if i edit sources.list it may  help. i have apt-get update and upgrade
[03:34] <SystematicDub> ahhhh thanks mark...hehe I'll have to check this out
[03:34] <mart> SystematicDub: but I thoroughly recommend it as a distro.
[03:34] <ron_> mart: line that refers to dvd is in sources.list?
[03:34] <DoctorMO> mart: nah I just like showinf off
[03:34] <mart> ron_: that's my guess as to what is wrong.
[03:34] <DoctorMO> mart: oh and kopete now works
[03:34] <DoctorMO> mart: thank you
[03:35] <SystematicDub> mart: yes I was going to get it but decided on Kubuntu
[03:35] <ron_> in gnome in gedit what is it in kde?
[03:35] <mart> DoctorMO: what annoys me is that most of the kids in #debian who profess to know everything have done less foss coding than me. :/
[03:35] <RadiantFire> ron_: kate
[03:36] <ron_> ty
[03:36] <geneo93> sudo kate
[03:36] <RadiantFire> generally K -> Utilities -> kate
[03:36] <RadiantFire> kdesu kate works as well
[03:36] <JavaByte> hey - where would i find info on the proper packages to install kernel 686? the descriptions are ambiguous
[03:36] <mart> DoctorMO: SystematicDub: but there are other debian channels, which might be better, but I never tried.
[03:36] <Tommy2k4> do most of you have a konsole window up all the time
[03:36] <james_xxx> i should install the 686 kernel , too
[03:37] <mart> JavaByte: just install linux-image-686
[03:37] <geneo93> james_xxx:  what processor you have
[03:37] <mart> that depends on the latest point release.
[03:37] <JavaByte> mart: only one package - none of the others
[03:37] <james_xxx> geneo93: i have a celeron d and a P4
[03:37] <mart> JavaByte: only one package what?
[03:37] <geneo93> yes then
[03:37] <JavaByte> AMD Athlon XP
[03:38] <mart> oh, JavaByte you don't want the 686 kernel then.
[03:38] <JavaByte> no - it's not for AMD?
[03:38] <mart> er, isn't the athlon a 64 bit cpu?
[03:38] <geneo93> k7
[03:38] <DoctorMO> mart: it isn't about coding or showing off, really it's about having professionalism in your skills. leets go to hell.
[03:38] <mart> or there are 32bit athlons too.
[03:39] <geneo93> yes
[03:39] <DoctorMO> so anyone got kopete want to test my webcam?
[03:39] <JavaByte> mart: no it's 32 bit :) i'm not rich :P
[03:39] <mart> DoctorMO: right, we're agreed.  but for those kids it *is* about showing off :)
[03:39] <Tommy2k4> kopete crashes when i try to recieve someones webcam :s
[03:39] <mart> ah, ok
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> ill try it again tho
[03:40] <Anfangs> whats the diff. between ubuntu and debian? i understand ubuntu uses debian as a foundation. but why shouldn't i just use debian and skip ubuntu? and why does ubuntu seem more popular? i know it's easier to install ubuntu.....srry several questions there?
[03:40] <Anfangs> :)
[03:40] <mart> Anfangs: kubuntu has a nice default set up for kde.
[03:40] <DoctorMO> Anfangs: Anyone can bake bread, but for some reason everyone buys the kind with the funny seeds on top
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> seeds suck
[03:40] <geneo93> Anfangs: ubuntu is light years ahead of debian
[03:41] <DoctorMO> Tommy2k4: seeds grow not suck :-P
[03:41] <mart> Anfangs: debian packages pretty much what kde releases, but kubuntu selects only a few packages for a default install
[03:41] <Tommy2k4> -_-
[03:41] <mart> geneo93: depends what for..
[03:41] <Anfangs> Well, i have the suspicion that my 3d wont work on debian...
[03:41] <mart> debian seems to get security updates a wee bit faster, I find.
[03:42] <mart> at least for the stuff I use.
[03:42] <geneo93> mart: ubuntu create stable out of debian unstable
[03:42] <mart> geneo93: I know.
[03:42] <Tommy2k4> god damnit its fathers day 2moro
[03:42] <JavaByte> ok - i've got that package set to install - is there anything else i should install with it?
[03:42] <ron_> !pastebin
[03:42] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:42] <mart> geneo93: but my point stands.
[03:42] <Anfangs> would i be able to use something like the universe or restricted repository on ubuntu?
[03:42] <geneo93> well for normal user ubuntu is the way to go
[03:43] <mart> Anfangs: no, but you can use debian's contrib and non-free on debian.
[03:43] <Anfangs> on debian, i meant
[03:43] <Anfangs> ok
[03:43] <mart> Anfangs: so while multiverse has the sun jvm in ubuntu, you'll find it in non-free in debian.
[03:43] <Anfangs> Well, i can't think of a reason why I might want debian... was just wondering why ubuntu arose, i guess.
[03:44] <ron_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15885 :/
[03:44] <geneo93> because it took 4 years to release sarge
[03:44] <Anfangs> ubuntu has been by FAR my best experience with linux thus far... i tend to try most of the new releases when they come out of the popular distros
[03:44] <Anfangs> geneo93: i see
[03:44] <mart> it used to be the case that everyone used debian "stable for servers, and testing for the desktop" - it was a cliche, in fact - but now I use mixed debian for servers, and kubuntu for desktop :)
[03:45] <DoctorMO> hmm, I know my ugly mug at 3am is not something alot of people want to see, but I do want to make sure this works for my sister. so does anyone want to spare 5 minuets with msn to test a video chat?
[03:45] <Anfangs> although i stopped using fedora at 3.... never really liked it.
[03:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > to speak for the linux noobs
[03:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > kubuntu is awesome
[03:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > even if i have no idea what im doing
[03:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > =P
[03:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > slowly but surely
[03:45] <geneo93> my 13 year old son uses it all day long
[03:45] <Tommy2k4> find as you type seems really slow in opera on linux
[03:45] <Anfangs> DoctorMO: sure
[03:46] <mart> Anfangs: I got frustrated and Fedora constantly shipping buggy compilers. :/
[03:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well
[03:46] <mart> and->at
[03:46] <Tommy2k4> DoctorMO,  i will but yesterday kopete was crashing when trying to recieve a webcam
[03:46] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i meant windows-to-linux noobs =p
[03:46] <ron_> i am getting errors when i sudo kate /ect/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15885
[03:46] <geneo93> etc
[03:47] <mart> [Evil] [Ernie] : better to take the plunge now than later :)
[03:47] <ron_> lol
[03:47] <Tommy2k4> ron_,  does the file still open
[03:47] <Anfangs> DoctorMO: m.s.reed@hotmail.com
[03:47] <mart> DoctorMO: where are you?
[03:47] <[Evil] [Ernie] > yea
[03:47] <mart> ron_: ect -> etc
[03:47] <[Evil] [Ernie] > but ive been using windows since 1997
[03:47] <[Evil] [Ernie] > linux is successfully confusing the hell out of me
[03:47] <ron_> changed to etc but i still get the error but i does open
[03:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > but even while im confused and wondering why something isnt working right
[03:48] <mart> ron_: what's the new error?
[03:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > im happier about it than i was when i encountered problems on windows
[03:48] <Tommy2k4> ron_, probably nothing to worry about cos mine gives a few errors but still opens fine
[03:48] <mart> [Evil] [Ernie] : yeah, sounds familiar :)
[03:48] <Tommy2k4> probably not errors just a debug
[03:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > afterall, this distrubution is free.. but when i drop $300 for a copy of windows
[03:48] <diiiego> hi there! i need a KDE + Kubuntu + nvidia + xgl successfull installed used, PLZ!! :)
[03:48] <ron_> k :)
[03:48] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it BETTER work right
[03:48] <Anfangs> diiiego: ok!
[03:48] <DoctorMO> mart: UK
[03:49] <diiiego> i can run xgl just fine.. but i can't see compiz
[03:49] <mart> ron_: go to /etc/apt in konqueror, right-click sources.list and pick "Edit as root"
[03:49] <mart> DoctorMO: city?
[03:49] <diiiego> or better, i can't start compiz correctly...
[03:49] <diiiego> Anfangs: can you help me?
[03:49] <Anfangs> diiiego: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper     -     check that site out... should answer your questions
[03:49] <diiiego> Anfangs: did you do it successfully?
[03:50] <DoctorMO> mart: currently in Widnes (cheshire), but I live in Merstham (surrey)
[03:50] <Anfangs> diiiego: not nvidia, ATI..... on gnome
[03:50] <LiteHedded> ok i have this machine set up to be a samba file server. how do I shut down kde and go to just a terminal?
[03:50] <diiiego> mhh, gnome.... that's my actual probelm... thnx anway..
[03:50] <diiiego> let me repeat the question anyway..
[03:50] <diiiego> hi there! i need a KDE + Kubuntu + nvidia + xgl successfull installed used, PLZ!! :)
[03:50] <mart> DoctorMO: ah, ok..  I thought I recognised your name from teaching, but I guess not :)
[03:50] <umberleigh> DoctorMO: hehe. that's scarily close
[03:50] <Anfangs> diiiego: I didn't say do what I did... i said see the site...
[03:51] <DoctorMO> umberleigh: where are you?
[03:51] <geneo93> !xgl
[03:51] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:51] <umberleigh> Slurrey :P
[03:51] <Tommy2k4> why does xchat not open links unless i right click and go open link in opera
[03:51] <DoctorMO> umberleigh: surry is a county the size of two greater londons, which part?
[03:52] <umberleigh> near croydon, though i think that's as specific as i'm going to be.
[03:52] <Tommy2k4> looks like you have a stalker
[03:52] <umberleigh> ugh. Croydon.
[03:52] <umberleigh> hahaha
[03:52] <mart> Tommy2k4: xchat,  but you have konversation in kubuntu !!
[03:53] <DoctorMO> umberleigh: Ah, perly
[03:53] <mart> hmmph, southerners :)
[03:53] <diiiego> Anfangs: yeah, i know :) i already did everything is in that wiki
[03:53] <Tommy2k4> i like xchat :)
[03:53] <diiiego> Anfangs: but i can't do the gnome stuffs.., since i am in kde
[03:53] <geneo93> you can use gnome apps in kde
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> yay i feel tired :)
[03:54] <diiiego> i don't think the gnome windows manager thuough :)
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> off to bed now cya
[03:55] <geneo93> gdm
[03:55] <mart> yeah,  I think everyone in the UK should be in bed by 3am, please :)
[03:55] <DoctorMO> mart: where are you then?
[03:56] <mart> DoctorMO: in newcastle, but from Edinburgh (so I am a southerner too)
[03:56] <Anfangs> Anyone in Tennessee?
[03:56] <geneo93> ohio
[03:56] <Anfangs> :)
[03:56] <Anfangs> close enuf!
[03:57] <DoctorMO> mart: Well i'm from widnes so i get to call you all southern wonces
[03:57] <Anfangs> ...for irc.
[03:57] <geneo93> right at the top
[03:57] <mart> DoctorMO: where's widnes?
[03:57] <Anfangs> That's where they get Widnesday, isn't it?
[03:57] <Anfangs> :P
[03:57] <DoctorMO> mart: near Liverpool and while yes it's south of newcastle and scotland, I'm willing to ignore that for the sake of toung in cheek
[03:57] <geneo93> you boys beeter get to bed
[03:57] <mart> DoctorMO: isn't that in Cheshire
[03:57] <mart> ?
[03:58] <mart> DoctorMO: :D
[03:58] <DoctorMO> mart: oh and we have a better tyne bridge :-P it's 3 times longer than your one.
[03:59] <mart> DoctorMO: yeah, but it's not as cool as the Forth Rail Bridge :)
[03:59] <DoctorMO> mart: that is true, that is quite a cool bridge, our rail bridge is only a victorian arc bridge spanning the Mersey
[03:59] <mart> it doesn't even have it's own song!
[03:59] <Anfangs> All these Ks in KDE remind me a little bit of German. Kontact... close enough.
[04:00] <DoctorMO> mart: I keep on hearing the 2 pints of larger song when I think of the widnes/runcorn bridge
[04:01] <mart> heh, spelling of "lager" showing your accent there :)
[04:01] <FisherP> Angfangs, r u still going of about the 'k's ??
[04:01] <mart> Anfangs: er, you know germany has a good proportion of developers, right?
[04:01] <FisherP> just out of curiosity are there people from the kubuntu normally on this channel, you don't have to identify yourself
[04:02] <Anfangs> mart: nope... that makes sense though....
[04:02] <mart> FisherP: er, most of them are in the devel channel.
[04:03] <FisherP> I noticed that earlier on there was chat about irc clients. does any one know if there is anything able to use the Autotrig stuff ??
[04:03] <mart> FisherP: Riddell is here, and the name you're quite likely to see associated with kubuntu.
[04:03] <DoctorMO> mart: no I'm showing my dislexia and time of morning.
[04:03] <geneo93> check this out http://www.nicholsonbridge.com/today/aerialbuild.jpg
[04:03] <mart> FisherP: autotrig?
[04:03] <Anfangs> FisherP: yup.. they annoy me. Sorry to spam the channel. But I just want what's best for KDE!
[04:04] <FisherP> mart, cool, it's good to know that someone out there is on... laughing at the noob's
[04:04] <FisherP> mart, like me (well new to kubuntu)
[04:04] <mart> FisherP: nah, kubuntu is quite a friendly community for that.
[04:04] <DoctorMO> mart: http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/runcorn/images/runcorn1.jpg
[04:05] <mart> DoctorMO: woah, you have live animals in the water!!!
[04:05] <geneo93> http://www.nicholsonbridge.com/today/oldcard.jpg
[04:05] <FisherP> mart, yeah, autotrig is used across irc to serve files in a CSV list
[04:05] <mart> FisherP: sharing dodgy files? :/
[04:06] <mart> DoctorMO: we need about 6 injections if we fall in the tyne.
[04:06] <mart> used to be more than 10.
[04:06] <DoctorMO> mart: you need 10 stitches if you bounce off the mersey
[04:06] <mart> lol
[04:07] <FisherP> mart, yeah so far I've never actually crossed anyone in the linux community who is rude.
[04:07] <DoctorMO> mart: the kind of river where even the athists can walk on water
[04:07] <mart> FisherP: wow, you must be a noob :)
[04:07] <FisherP> mart, not neccarily dodgy
[04:07] <JavaByte> fark oarf!!!!
[04:07] <geneo93> yeah really noob
[04:07] <JavaByte> sorry but it was funny!!
[04:07] <DoctorMO> FisherP: I've found rude people, but they tend to be on the loosing end of a flame war
[04:08] <mcrandello> who wants a good laugh
[04:08] <RawSewage> you can find rude people in the programming channels
[04:08] <RawSewage> or development channels
[04:08] <mart> on mailing lists....
[04:08] <DoctorMO> on forums...
[04:08] <mcrandello> I'm trying to make an older version of glrx work with xorg 7.0.0, it's not going to work is it?
[04:08] <DoctorMO> I'm going to bed I think, nice chatting with you all!
[04:08] <geneo93> mcrandello:  why
[04:08] <mart> DoctorMO: 'night.
[04:09] <FisherP> I've heard stories about rudness, but then I don't hop on channels much, and tend to stick to myself
[04:09] <ron_> ty for all your help everyone
[04:09] <Tommy2k4> damnit cant sleep lol
[04:09] <mcrandello> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/41272
[04:09] <mcrandello> that's why :(
[04:09] <geneo93> why use new one
[04:09] <mart> FisherP: like I say, the kubuntu community seems quite nice, but every now and again you get the odd surprise.
[04:09] <geneo93> not
[04:10] <mcrandello> the new one makes my usb crap itself
[04:10] <oomph> how does xensource compare to vmwarE?
[04:10] <geneo93> irq conflict
[04:10] <oomph> anyone have experiences with both?
[04:10] <mart> oomph: xen is free :)
[04:11] <oomph> performance wise and features?
[04:11] <mcrandello> hrmm got any pointers on how to troubleshoot that in linux?
[04:11] <mcrandello> I haven't tracked down irq probs since windows xp
[04:11] <mcrandello> erm 98
[04:12] <geneo93> dmesg might shed some light on it
[04:12] <mart> oomph: pretty much similar... vmware is a bit more polished in terms of set up, and it will happily run any guest OS.  xen is theoretically faster, I believe, though I haven't tried it.
[04:12] <mart> oomph: and obviously, xen won't run an unmodified guest OS.
[04:13] <geneo93> qemu will though
[04:13] <mart> yes, qemu is more like vmware in terms of what it actually does.
[04:14] <oomph> thanks
[04:14] <oomph> i think im gonna try it
[04:14] <mart> which?
[04:14] <mart> :)
[04:14] <geneo93> funny i never have been tempted to look back at windows
[04:15] <geneo93> screw that missery
[04:15] <FisherP> gene093, when did you leave ??
[04:15] <geneo93> 99
[04:15] <mart> ditto.
[04:15] <mart> at least, on a regular basis.
[04:15] <geneo93> 99
[04:15] <FisherP> that was a bit early for me, i still had a cannon parralell scanner to suport
[04:15] <mcrandello> geneo93: If I can actually get accellerated X working then I'm ditching the only legit copy of windows I ever ran :)
[04:16] <geneo93> mcrandello:  try some bios changes
[04:16] <mart> I still have to run the odd thing on windows, where there is no linux equivalent, but for day to day work, all has been good for years.
[04:16] <mcrandello> wow this dmesg output is pretty dense
[04:17] <mcrandello> there's not a whole lot to adjust in the bios
[04:17] <mcrandello> being a laptop they figure you shouldn't need to :(
[04:17] <Frederick> hello folks just to congrats you by the amazing installer
[04:17] <FisherP> yeah i used it for the most part since about 2000
[04:18] <geneo93> can you toggle pnp os off
[04:18] <mcrandello> I've been flirting with it since slackware 3
[04:18] <mart> FisherP: geneo93: always funny to look back at the early versions of kde :)
[04:18] <FisherP> mcrandello, what card do you have
[04:18] <mcrandello> ati mobility 200m
[04:18] <FisherP> mart, i shudder at the thought
[04:18] <Frederick> folks how do I install kdeveloper in ubuntu?
[04:18] <geneo93> well kde 1 wasn't much but some things stuck around from it
[04:19] <mcrandello> it looks like it also controls the usb and some other stuff the MB normally would on a box
[04:19] <FisherP> mcrandella, can't help you i have probs with my nvidia 5200
[04:19] <mart> http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde1shots.php
[04:20] <Frederick> FisherP: wich problem?
[04:20] <geneo93> FisherP:  you have agp first in bios
[04:20] <FisherP> geneo93, mart, i think i started with kde2, i can't remember but i do remember that i could create my own themes which got harder with kde3
[04:20] <FisherP> Frederick, the black screen of death... funny i should say that we were just discussing a different os
[04:21] <mcrandello> alright going to reboot now pnp bios going off if it's an option
[04:21] <geneo93> i dont even bother with themes
[04:21] <Frederick> FisherP: did you change the video entrance driver name to nvidia instead of nv?
[04:21] <JavaByte> uhhh  what gtk?
[04:21] <JavaByte> +s
[04:21] <Frederick> anyone here using kdevelop on ubuntu?
[04:22] <FisherP> geneo93, there's a thought i haven't seen anything in the bios about that, but i will look closer next time i reboot
[04:22] <JavaByte> frederick: just installing it now
[04:22] <Frederick> JavaByte: how did you managed it?
[04:22] <geneo93> FisherP:  could try changing irq's if you can or assign one for video
[04:23] <JavaByte> you need gnu c++ or whatever also - you will need to run adept rather than add/remove programs
[04:23] <FisherP> Frederick, yup, and removed the dri, and GLcore options too, and tried at least 4 different drivers to compile myself, and... all the obvious stuff
[04:24] <FisherP> geneo93, how would that work??
[04:24] <geneo93> depends on how your bios is liad out
[04:24] <JavaByte> Frederick: do you have universe/multiverse repositories?
[04:25] <Frederick> yes
[04:25] <Frederick> it worked now wierd
[04:26] <JavaByte> Frederick: i think you might need them as (bizzarely) gnu compiling tools seem to be unsupported
[04:26] <mart> huh?
[04:26] <FisherP> geneo93, hmmmm i might try looking once more in the bios, then head to my mandriva installation and see if i can install a driver there
[04:26] <mart> JavaByte: which?
[04:26] <geneo93> FisherP:  2006
[04:26] <JavaByte> mart: which what?
[04:27] <Frederick> later I will check if I can set opengl acelleration to work
[04:27] <geneo93> xorg 7.0 is quite different from 6.9
[04:27] <mart> JavaByte: which "gnu compiling tools seem to be unsupported"?
[04:27] <FisherP> geneo93, yup, though i don't have full community
[04:27] <mcrandello> okay there's no options for pnp os or anything to do with irq's :(
[04:27] <JavaByte> all them - none appear unless you tick the unsupported checkbox
[04:28] <geneo93> FisherP:  you know how to do it in mandriva
[04:28] <mart> JavaByte: they're all in main. apt-cache show gcc-4.0|grep pool
[04:29] <FisherP> geneo93, if it isn't the same as compiling it in other distros.. no
[04:29] <geneo93> well you need to telinit 3
[04:29] <mart> JavaByte: oh, what program are you using to install stuff?
[04:29] <geneo93> and do it from there
[04:30] <geneo93> you need full kernel source also
[04:30] <JavaByte> mart: adept - you need to tick unsupported in it for them to appear - i don't know if thats an error or not, but it seems off
[04:30] <Frederick> bah I hated ubuntu default mounting points
[04:31] <FisherP> geneo93, yeah, it's the same, ty
[04:31] <JavaByte> full kernel source ??? - not just the headers?
[04:31] <mart> JavaByte: you mean Adept as in "Add/Remove Programs" or the other one?
[04:31] <geneo93> then you need to run mcc and set display
[04:31] <geneo93> or FXdrake
[04:32] <JavaByte> mart:  Add/Remove
[04:33] <mart> JavaByte: ok, can you explain what you're doing with that window?
[04:33] <dbglt> how do I get my gtk2 apps to resemble my kde ones? (use the same settings)
[04:33] <dbglt> I recently installed gimp-2.2
[04:33] <Frederick> folks by some reason amarok cant play the musics I have in a vfat partition it swaps by the music without sound any ideas?
[04:33] <dbglt> and it looks UGLY
[04:33] <mart> JavaByte: what do you do to see the tools you want?
[04:33] <FisherP> geneo93, hang on, what's FXdrake
[04:34] <mcrandello> gene could this line indicate something awry?
[04:34] <mcrandello> [17179573.196000]  ATIIXP: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
[04:34] <mcrandello> everything else seems to be getting an irq okay
[04:34] <JavaByte> i guess you need g++ and cpp packages +KDevelop
[04:34] <mart> dbglt: K->System Settings->Appearance->GTK styles and fonts->"Use my KDE style in GTK apps"
[04:34] <elknof3> hey does somebody knows where can i find the manual for pcsx ?? playstation emu...
[04:35] <JavaByte> or does Kdevelop come with them?
[04:35] <Frederick> ???
[04:35] <mart> JavaByte: which tools are you talking about?
[04:36] <Frederick> folks any idea why I simply cant play my mp3 wich are in anoither partition?:
[04:36] <dbglt> mart: I don't have the "GTK styles and font" thing :\
[04:36] <elknof3> !samba
[04:36] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[04:37] <mcrandello> dbglt: try running "kcontrol" from a command line and look for the themes section...
[04:37] <mart> JavaByte: "[03:29]  <JavaByte> Frederick: i think you might need them as (bizzarely) gnu compiling tools seem to be unsupported" - kdevelop isn't a gnu tool :)
[04:37] <mcrandello> there should be a GTK styles and fonts section in there
[04:37] <dbglt> mcrandello: I have "theme manager" ?
[04:38] <mart> dbglt: no, that's not it, you need to install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[04:38] <Frederick> hello folks any help with this fstab would be much appreciated
[04:38] <dbglt> mart: aha
[04:38] <elknof3> Frederick, do you know something about samba??
[04:38] <dbglt> it seems to work now :)
[04:38] <dbglt> fantastic!
[04:38] <mart> cool :)
[04:39] <dbglt> eek
[04:39] <dbglt> gimp is still ugly
[04:39] <mart> :o
[04:39] <dbglt> do I need to restart X ?
[04:39] <mart> er, you need to restart gimp...
[04:39] <dbglt> mart: I did
[04:39] <nnn0> :)
[04:39] <JavaByte> mart:  dude i have no clue - like i said - i'm installing it now - ask me again in an hour
[04:40] <dbglt> ok that's very odd
[04:40] <dbglt> other GTK apps now use the colour/theme
[04:40] <mart> dbglt: er, so you've checked the "KDE style" box, clicked apply, and restarted Gimp?
[04:40] <dbglt> but not the gimp!
[04:40] <dbglt> mart: yep
[04:40] <RawSewage> Frederick, I assume you know all about playing mp3 normally
[04:40] <mcrandello> If I try to downgrade xorg it's just going to futz up all my dependencies isn't it?
[04:40] <mart> dbglt: better get used to krita then :)
[04:40] <dbglt> mart: hah
[04:41] <elknof3> hey does somebody knows something about playstation emu??  pcsx
[04:41] <dbglt> mart: restarting it for the third time worked...
[04:41] <dbglt> haha
[04:41] <dbglt> mart: thanks mate :)
[04:42] <Frederick> I do man it is something about permissions probably
[04:42] <mart> no bother :)
[04:42] <JavaByte> Frederick: if you still looking for info - you need kdelelop - gcc g++ cpp packages to compile with i would think also some library and header files are needed and a linker ;)
[04:43] <elknof3> Frederick, try running samba as root
[04:43] <Frederick> elknof3: ?
[04:43] <RawSewage> KDE apps have a Configure Shortcuts menu.  Is there any way to add MOUSE shortcuts to it, like using the roller, etc
[04:43] <mart> JavaByte: if you use K->System->Adept, you can install 'build-essential' which is everything you need to do simple programs.
[04:44] <FisherP> geneo93, mart, thanks for conversation, I'm off to have lunch and try mandriva with NVIDIA
[04:44] <mart> FisherP: ok, laters.
[04:45] <Systematic> I don't know if this has been talked about but how does Krita rate up against Gimp?
[04:45] <JavaByte> mart: DOH! why didn't you say that in the first place!
[04:45] <mart> Systematic: does everything I need it to.  it's more designed for painting that image editing, but I just use it for image editing.
[04:45] <mcrandello> Systematic: I'll tell you in a second
[04:46] <elknof3> Frederick, sorry budy, i think i made a mistake...  the only way to run samba is as root
[04:46] <mart> JavaByte: well, that's why I asked what you were trying to do with the other adept :)
[04:46] <Systematic> mart: that's perfect because I do painting not image editing
[04:46] <mart> Systematic: then you are sorted.  join #koffice sometime :)
[04:47] <byen> hey guys... I need help with resizing the windows list in the task bar
[04:47] <Systematic> mart: perfect
[04:47] <byen> they are too small
[04:48] <mcrandello> Systematic: first impression is that it's the paint shop pro to gimp's photoshop
[04:49] <mart> mcrandello: what does that mean?
[04:49] <Systematic> mcrandello: Soooo I'm getting it has a more PSP feel than PS
[04:49] <mcrandello> 1 big window, the ui isn't as mature but it looks capable
[04:50] <mart> ah, the 1 big window thing is changable.
[04:50] <mart> just drag the toolbars somewhere else.
[04:50] <JavaByte> Mart: well i had them all bar the headers - which i was looking for so i was doing not bad all the same
[04:50] <RawSewage> I think Krita is more for creating images, and Gimp is more for editing
[04:51] <mart> RawSewage: right, but see my comments above :)
[04:52] <Systematic> mart& mcrandello: Okay guys I have to tell you a bit of background here.  Okay I am a user of windoze at the moment (I am waiting for Dapper to get here in the mail) So my background is in PS and PSP.
[04:52] <byen> gah. I did that before but i just cant remember.. can someone tell me how to increase the size of the window list
[04:52] <JavaByte> mcrandello: i prefer painter to both PSP and Photoshop :P
[04:52] <mcrandello> I can't really give a fair opinion of krita not having used it for more than a few minutes
[04:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey, so
[04:53] <mcrandello> but the Gimp has a huge following so you'll probably find a lot more tutes and support for it
[04:53] <mart> oh, I had to teach PSP for a few hours, but that doesn't count.
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> what I need is a decent SVG program to make simple shapes and crap.
[04:53] <JavaByte> painter is more for drawing the photo-processing - you need a tablet to get the most out of it
[04:53] <mart> mcrandello: true, but the Krita code is much cleaner, so it's easier for them to add stuff.
[04:54] <mcrandello> http://gimp-savvy.com for the book
[04:54] <Systematic> Before I totally change over to Kubuntu I wanted to know if my fave thing about comps is something worthwhile in Kubuntu (don't worry about me not installing it tho and burning any thing windoze on my comp
[04:54] <winXperts> Systematic, try this one http://www.kanzelsberger.com
[04:54] <winXperts> almost a total pothoshop replacement
[04:55] <Systematic> winXperts: I've been searching for that actully
[04:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xgl
[04:55] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:57] <byen> Guys, you know the window list that comes on the taskbar... can i increase the size? it is too small for me
[04:57] <mcrandello> byen the whole bar or just the window list/
[04:58] <byen> you know the window tab mcrandello
[04:58] <byen> where the text of the window shows
[04:58] <mart> byen: you mean, increase the height, or the width?
[04:58] <byen> increase the width
[04:59] <byen> of the window tab
[04:59] <mcrandello> there's a little grippy that pops up if you highlight just to the left of it
[04:59] <byen> that sits on the task bar
[04:59] <bernier> !java
[04:59] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[05:00] <RawSewage> KDE apps have a Configure Shortcuts menu.  Is there any way to add mouse shortcuts to it, like using the roller to raise volume, etc
[05:00] <geneo93> java should be in multiverse
[05:00] <mart> RawSewage: don't think so, use the wheel on the speaker icon in your system tray.
[05:01] <mart> RawSewage: or on the amarok icon, in the system tray.
[05:01] <Frederick> oki kdevelop didnt work =/
[05:01] <RawSewage> mart, thats inconvenient
[05:01] <mart> RawSewage: that's the way it is.
[05:01] <RawSewage> mart, I already do that for amarok
[05:01] <RawSewage> mart, this is Linux.  Im sure theres a way
[05:02] <mart> RawSewage: er, don't you want the wheel for scrolling?
[05:02] <Frederick> how do I get kde dirs?
[05:02] <RawSewage> mart, for example, in Kaffeine when I watch something full screen.  I want to use the mouse roller to adjust volume
[05:03] <mart> RawSewage: ah, you'll probably need to submit a feature request on kaffeine for that.
[05:03] <RawSewage> not with Kaffeine
[05:03] <RawSewage> with the KDE Configure Shortcuts app
[05:04] <RawSewage> that all KDE programs use
[05:04] <mart> hmmm....
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[05:04] <mart> RawSewage: and how do you propose this would work?  each application defines a set of regions that appear in that dialog?
[05:05] <Systematic> rawsewage: you can submit something into the edgy eft feature request about that
[05:05] <JavaByte> hmmm - i'm liking KDevelop - is there a channel for it?
[05:05] <RawSewage> does Edgy Eft have a say in KDE features
[05:06] <Frederick> folks any ideas http://rafb.net/paste/results/H1nyba64.html ?
[05:06] <mart> oops
[05:06] <mart> konversation crash
[05:06] <mart> who was I speaking to?
[05:06] <RawSewage> doesnt seem like thats a problem with Ubunut
[05:06] <mart> yeah, it's a KDE thing.
[05:06] <mart> so how do you propose that this dialog work then?
[05:07] <mart> by regions?
[05:07] <Systematic> yeah it's probably better to go to KDE features on this one
[05:07] <RawSewage> no, very simple
[05:07] <mart> pray explain.
[05:07] <RawSewage> right click, left click, mouse roller
[05:07] <mart> well, that varies depending on the widget of course.
[05:08] <mart> mouse roller on konqueror tabs, and it moves between tabs, mouse roller on a web page and it scrolls the page.
[05:08] <mart> mouse roller on kspread sheet tabs, and it moves between tabs, mouse roller on a kspread sheet and it scrolls the sheet.
[05:08] <Systematic> not to butt in again but mart do you mean like it's on focus
[05:08] <mart> mouse roller on volume things changes the volume.
[05:08] <Frederick> anyone here using kdevelop in ubuntu?
[05:09] <geneo93> work on xmms
[05:09] <mart> Systematic: not focus, no.  just whatever's under the pointer when you use the wheel.
[05:09] <Systematic> ahhhh....that might be tough
[05:10] <geneo93> it does it by default
[05:10] <mart> so, in konversation, I can use the roller to different effect on the tabs, channel window, and nick window.
[05:10] <mart> geneo93: ok, but that's not a kde app.
[05:11] <mart> RawSewage: Systematic: odds of KDE making the wheel do only one thing in any given application are therefore pretty slim.
[05:12] <RawSewage> ok
[05:12] <Systematic> mart: not to mention the complexity so yeah
[05:12] <mart> RawSewage: but using the wheel for volume in kaffeine sounds like a reasonable idea, so you might file a wishlist bug for that.
[05:12] <RawSewage> mart, yeah
[05:12] <geneo93> i know in mandriva you can set it to what ever you want to use
[05:12] <mart> geneo93: please clarify?
[05:12] <geneo93> joy stick if you want
[05:13] <geneo93> to control kde apps
[05:13] <mart> I mean, specifically.
[05:13] <geneo93> but you need to configure each one seperately
[05:13] <mart> I'll wager that you cannot use the mouse wheel to control volume in kaffeine in full screen mode in mandriva.
[05:15] <Frederick> anyone here using kdevelop in ubuntu?
[05:15] <mart> Frederick: what's the problem?
[05:15] <Frederick> mart: http://rafb.net/paste/results/H1nyba64.html
[05:16] <mart> Frederick: and you tried running kbuildsycoca ?
[05:16] <Frederick> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:16] <mart> fine, ignore that.
[05:16] <mart> does it start?
[05:16] <mart> kdevelop, I mean.
[05:17] <Frederick> yep
[05:17] <mart> cool.
[05:18] <Frederick> ?
[05:18] <mart> well, isn't that it fixed then?
[05:18] <Frederick> man it starts but I cant create a project fro example
[05:18] <mart> how did you install it?
[05:18] <Frederick> cool it worked
[05:19] <mart> ok, I'm going to bed.
[05:21] <elknof3> does anybody knows how to use pcsx playstation emu
[05:21] <Healot> got PS BIOS copy>?
[05:21] <JavaByte> you need a chip rom and you need a PS game cd
[05:22] <byen> does anyone here know how to increase the size of the default window tab size on the task bar?
[05:22] <byen> please :)
[05:23] <JavaByte> right click it :P
[05:23] <JavaByte> configure panel isn't it
[05:24] <byen> JavaByte:  i cant find an option where i can increase the size of the window list
[05:24] <byen> on the taskbar
[05:24] <Frederick> folks I need help with amarok
[05:24] <Frederick> I got a bunch of mp3 into a fat partition oki?
[05:24] <metalero9> como llego a kubunto es
[05:24] <Frederick> Amarok CAN see them but when I ask it to play them
[05:24] <JavaByte> byen: arrangement/size - choose - custom that should do it
[05:25] <Frederick> it just swaps around the musics any idea/
[05:25] <geneo93> Frederick:  i needs codecs
[05:25] <Frederick> hmmm thanks
[05:26] <geneo93> lame or something i dont use it so i'm not sure
[05:26] <Healot> LAME
[05:26] <Healot> to play mpeg audio/video
[05:26] <Healot> !mp3
[05:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:27] <byen> JavaByte: that is not what i am looking for.. You see the window list on the taskbar which shows the tittle of the windows running.. i want to increase the size of that
[05:27] <JavaByte> all you need is xine extras and maybe install mplayer too while your at it (for movies)
[05:27] <Frederick> folks again I thank you I come from a gentoo box now I got ubuntu running, gentoo  has a lot to learn with you
[05:29] <JavaByte> byen: you'd need to install a KDE customising app. for that i would think
[05:29] <kernal_sanders> hello
[05:29] <byen> no JavaByte the last time i just added a text to a certain file
[05:29] <Healot> !infor mplayer
[05:29] <ubotu> Healot: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:29] <Healot> !info mplayer
[05:30] <byen> gah.. its ok.. i think i will have to live with it
[05:30] <ubotu> mplayer: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), Packaged size: 3265 kB, Installed size: 7916 kB
[05:30] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:30] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB
[05:30] <JavaByte> byen: ah well that would probably work too :P but the customising apps make it easy
[05:30] <kkathman> greetings folks :)
[05:31] <byen> JavaByte: know of any?
[05:33] <Frederick> how come ubuntu doesnt have make installed?
[05:34] <Healot> Frederick: because of popularity-contest
[05:35] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[05:35] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> Frederick: many debates, and lack of cd space
[05:35] <geneo93> ! build-essential
[05:35] <ubotu> somebody said build-essential was a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[05:35] <Hobbsee> besides, once you need one dev package, you need another and another and another...
[05:36] <geneo93>  build-essential is all you need for now
[05:36] <Frederick> that was a drunk commiteed :p
[05:38] <geneo93> it has all the tools you need ti compile apps
[05:38] <JavaByte> byen: nope
[05:39] <Healot> i guess popularity-contest wins?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> for now, yes
[05:39] <Hobbsee> Healot: not necessarily.  depends what it is
[05:39] <geneo93> maybe the dvd has it on it
[05:41] <Hobbsee> Healot: for "DEVS FIX $mypetbug RIGHT NOW!  kthnksbye, then no, that wont work
[05:41] <Hobbsee> Healot: but things do get voted on
[05:42] <Hobbsee> Healot: and bugs which a lot of people have will often be looked at before bugs marked as minor.  i think
[05:42] <Healot> Debian/Ubuntu packaging sounds like high school
[05:42] <geneo93> yup the dvd has all those tools
[05:42] <Hobbsee> Healot: not really.  it's actually quite organised
[05:42] <crimsun> "high school"? hah.
[05:43] <Healot> nah
[05:43] <DaSkreech> I was trying to get that reference as well
[05:43] <geneo93> i'm trying to figure out way this crashes after 2 hours of running azureus
[05:44] <Healot> java's fault
[05:44] <Hobbsee> bleh.  java.  i dont want to know about it :P
[05:44] <crimsun> unless you're using Java 1.1, I doubt that it's Java's fault.
[05:44] <geneo93> 1.5
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Java's great :)
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Java 1
[05:45] <DaSkreech> 1.1
[05:45] <DaSkreech> java 2
[05:45] <DaSkreech> java 5
[05:45] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:45] <geneo93> seems like when it use all memory the it just freezes
[05:45] <Healot> ktorrent perhaps, geneo93? i think that would be a better choice, native vs. semi-compiled
[05:45] <crimsun> geneo93: well, what do you expect it to do, shoot you in the face?
[05:46] <crimsun> :)
[05:46] <geneo93> Healot:  its slow as snot
[05:46] <Healot> figure the connection settings?
[05:46] <geneo93> done that
[05:47] <Hobbsee> crimsun: haha
[05:47] <Hobbsee> ping Frederick
[05:47] <Frederick> folks I followed the guide to flash
[05:47] <geneo93> ktorrent is good for searching though
[05:47] <Hobbsee> ah ha!  not a bot!
[05:47] <Hobbsee> good!
[05:47] <Frederick> but ubuntu is setting up flash for ages
[05:48] <Frederick> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ...
[05:48] <Boelcke> Evening. Can anyone offer advice on how to setup a new print style in KAddressBook?
[05:49] <crimsun> Frederick: welcome to broken routing and broken mirrors.
[05:49] <Healot> geneo93: what is you're trying to torre down?
[05:49] <Frederick> ?
[05:49] <crimsun> Frederick: download the install.tar.gz following Macromedia's/Adobe's Download links.
[05:50] <Frederick> Need to get 0B of archives.
[05:50] <crimsun> Frederick: purge flashplugin-nonfree, then reinstall it, making sure to answer NO to the prompt to download and install from the Internet
[05:50] <geneo93> 4.5 gigs of billboard top 100's
[05:50] <Healot> RIAA hasn't go after you yet?
[05:51] <crimsun> geneo93: (sorry, this is an official help channel; please don't discuss things that might jeopardise other users, namely pirating music here in the USA)
[05:51] <geneo93> why would they i bought most of the stuff i have over 3000 cds
[05:51] <Frederick> no promt this time =/
[05:51] <crimsun> I'm really not going to discuss it, ok?
[05:51] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Behave, just once :P
[05:51] <crimsun> Frederick: did you answer "no"?
[05:52] <Frederick> crimsun: it wasnt asked
[05:52] <geneo93> why i like being a black sheep
[05:52] <crimsun> Frederick: did you ``sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree'' ?
[05:53] <Frederick> done
[05:53] <geneo93> Hawkwind so hows it going
[05:53] <crimsun> Frederick: now ``sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'', and answer "no"
[05:53] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Good good.  Things are progressing in the deb build aspects of life :)
[05:54] <Boelcke> Sorry to repeat, can anyone suggest how to create a new "print style" in KAddressBook? I'm trying to replace my wife's PalmDesktop functionality to keep her positive about our recent switch to linux as a primary desktop!  ;)
[05:54] <geneo93> cool sound good to me now build me a deb for seamonkey
[05:54] <geneo93> !seamonkey
[05:54] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, geneo93
[05:54] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Heh.  I just built seamonkey rpms tonight
[05:55] <Frederick> aint working
[05:55] <Hawkwind> geneo93: I've spoken to someone tonight that wants me to upload my first package(s) to REVU for consideration :)
[05:55] <Frederick> of corse
[05:55] <crimsun> Frederick: did you answer "no" to the prompt?
[05:55] <geneo93> then it should be fresh in your head
[05:55] <Frederick> yes
[05:56] <crimsun> Frederick: good, and did you download the install.tar.gz from Macromedia's/Adobe's Web site?
[05:56] <Frederick> nope :p
[05:56] <crimsun> Frederick: then do so :)
[05:56] <geneo93> Hawkwind i was in cooker for awhile today seems like they are really confused
[05:56] <Frederick> why? how? where do I place it?
[05:57] <crimsun> Frederick: just save the file (don't open it)
[05:57] <Frederick> crimsun: wich folder?
[05:57] <crimsun> Frederick: when it has finished downloading, I'll tell you what to do next.
[05:57] <crimsun> Frederick: doesn't matter which folder
[05:57] <Frederick> done
[05:58] <crimsun> Frederick: now, ``sudo update-flashplugin --local-file $dir_containing_the_install.tar.gz''
[05:58] <geneo93> Hawkwind you think smp and xorg 7.1 is going to be a real challenge
[05:58] <Frederick> sudo update-flashplugin --local-file /home/imanewbie/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz ?
[05:59] <Hawkwind> geneo93: In Mandriva you mean ?
[05:59] <crimsun> Frederick: not the path of the file, the /directory/ containing the file.
[05:59] <Frederick> done
[05:59] <geneo93> yes
[05:59] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Probably.  Seems they are having major issues with Xorg 7.0 and 7.1 all around
[05:59] <Frederick> sudo update-flashplugin --local-file /home/imanewbie/Desktop/
[06:00] <crimsun> Frederick: yes
[06:00] <geneo93> Hawkwind i was using 7.0 with no problems then they broke it
[06:00] <Frederick> folks I love you all
[06:01] <Frederick> oki last question for today
[06:02] <Frederick> how do I get make to work wich packages do I need?
[06:02] <geneo93> Hawkwind i got as far as getting splash for nvidia today and then its the font problem
[06:03] <Frederick> I mean I can install the make package but I bet I need tons of stuff and there must be a dev package doesnt it?
[06:04] <geneo93> Frederick:  did you install the package i told you before
[06:05] <Frederick> geneo93: wich is its name?
[06:05] <Frederick> geneo93: yup flash is oki
[06:05] <geneo93> build-essential
[06:05] <elknof3> does anyone knows were i could find wine manual or explain me how to use it
[06:06] <geneo93> essensial
[06:06] <geneo93> man wine
[06:06] <Frederick> geneo93: thanks a lot
[06:06] <Healot> or drink WINE
[06:06] <geneo93> dago red is my fav
[06:07] <Snake> diego*
[06:08] <Frederick> folks amazing usb support :D
[06:08] <geneo93> whats the dry red wine like it
[06:09] <Healot> since 2.6.8 Frederick
[06:09] <Frederick> bah I had given up about usb in gentoo
[06:09] <Frederick> on this box
[06:09] <Healot> and after Epoch, your UNIX systems going nuts :)
[06:10] <Frederick> Epoch?
[06:10] <Hawkwind> Will the install of Dapper pick up the fact that you have dual monitors and configure the Nvidia stuff for you, or is that still something you need to do after the initial install ?
[06:10] <geneo93> gee it finally flushed cache
[06:11] <geneo93> Hawkwind no
[06:11] <geneo93> and yes
[06:12] <geneo93> !nvidia
[06:12] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:12] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Thanks.  I wish there was an installer that would do that.  That would be superb
[06:12] <geneo93> well its not done only in karoraa i believe
[06:13] <geneo93> because of nvidia not distro
[06:18] <gelex_> may filipino ba dito?
[06:18] <Hawkwind> What is the name of the kernel that does smp in Kubuntu ?
[06:18] <geneo93> linux-image 686
[06:19] <Hawkwind> linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP
[06:19] <Hawkwind> So that's the one I'll need ?
[06:19] <geneo93> well its linux-686-smp
[06:20] <Healot> isntall the metapackage, you'll install the actual package too
[06:20] <geneo93> and that should install proper kernel
[06:21] <Hawkwind> linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[06:21] <Hawkwind> That looks like the one
[06:21] <crimsun> it's empty
[06:21] <geneo93> yes thats what i have for dual p4 xeons
[06:21] <ruisu> hey, is there a program to select what modules to boot with?
[06:21] <Hawkwind> crimsun: Huh ?
[06:22] <crimsun> Hawkwind: the non-generic/386 kernels have SMP supported enabled via code called "smp alternatives"
[06:22] <Frederick> still with problems =/ http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/hoary/devel/make
[06:22] <Frederick> aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[06:22] <crimsun> Hawkwind: they're /all/ compiled with SMP support; at boottime a check is executed, and if you don't have SMP, then it disables SMP support.
[06:22] <Hawkwind> crimsun: So when I install Kubuntu tomorrow on this 3.4GHz HT will it install the correct kernel for me or will I have to install something else ?
[06:23] <crimsun> Hawkwind: you'll have to install linux-amd64-k8, probably
[06:23] <crimsun> by default it should install linux-amd64-generic
[06:23] <geneo93> Hawkwind if you use dvd it will install 686 kernel
[06:23] <Hawkwind> crimsun: Ummm, I don't own an amd nor a 64bit machine :(
[06:23] <crimsun> Hawkwind: does your computer have the new Intel logo?
[06:23] <Hawkwind> crimsun: No, it still has the old one
[06:24] <Hawkwind> crimsun: This box is about a year old.  It's a P4 3.2GHz with HT
[06:24] <crimsun> Hawkwind: then you probably want linux-686 (linux-386 is by default)
[06:24] <crimsun> uh, what?
[06:24] <crimsun> you just said 3.4 GHz then 3.2 GHz
[06:24] <geneo93> crimsun:  the dvd uses 686
[06:24] <Hawkwind> Yeah, typo'd, sorry
[06:24] <crimsun> so which is it?
[06:24] <Hawkwind> It's 3.2GHz
[06:24] <crimsun> then no, it won't use linux-amd64-generic at all
[06:25] <Hawkwind> So when I install from the CD it'll use the right kernel ?
[06:25] <crimsun> the new Intel 3.4 GHz HTs are dual-core EMT64 chips
[06:25] <geneo93> no it'll be 383
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Ah yeah, I don't have one of those, yet
[06:25] <geneo93> 386
[06:25] <crimsun> Hawkwind: it will use the basic one, which is 386. You just need to install linux-686 afterward.
[06:25] <Hawkwind> crimsun: Ok kewl.  Thanks
[06:26] <Hawkwind> The 686 is the one I posted lastly above ?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> linux-686-smp
[06:26] <crimsun> Hawkwind: linux-686-smp is empty
[06:26] <crimsun> just install linux-686
[06:27] <crimsun> I just described above why.
[06:27] <Hawkwind> Ah ok.  Makes sense now
[06:27] <Hawkwind> Thanks for the info
[06:28] <geneo93> i did notice that the dvd wouldn't let me put grub where i wanted it though
[06:30] <DaSkreech> geneo93: http://www.yayfordesktops.com/download/37/1600x1200/
[06:31] <geneo93>  This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested.  Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required
[06:31] <ruisu> hello?
[06:32] <Hobbsee> heya ruisu
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:35] <Hawkwind> Hey there Hobbsee and DaSkreech
[06:36] <Hobbsee> hiya Hawkwind
[06:36] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: what'd you upload to revu, out of curiousity?
[06:36] <ruisu> hi, um..is there a program to select what modules to boot with?
[06:36] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Going to be xchat-2.6.4
[06:36] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: nice
[06:36] <Hobbsee> !info xchat dapper
[06:36] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 254 kB, Installed size: 720 kB
[06:36] <Hobbsee> very nice :)
[06:37] <Hawkwind> :)
[06:37] <geneo93> Hobbsee:  we need seamonkey
[06:37] <Hobbsee> geneo93: we do?  and it's definetly not in repos?
[06:37] <Hawkwind> I've been listed on the xchat download site for years as the only mandriva packager outside of the distro itself :)
[06:37] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Enjoy being the black sheep
[06:37] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: fun :)
[06:37] <geneo93> Hobbsee:  no its not
[06:38] <geneo93> i have ff
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Seamonkey would be interesting
[06:38] <geneo93> and mozilla
[06:38] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Got some other things I'm going to try and build once I really learn the build stuff really well
[06:38] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: yay!
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: I had a nice long chat with raphink tonight.  So that was very helpful
[06:39] <geneo93> i think all seamonkey needs is mail-cap
[06:39] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: nice :)
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Seamonkey is nice.  What we really need is a build of flock though
[06:39] <Hawkwind> Flock seems really fast and has some really nice options
[06:40] <Hobbsee> i think someone uploaded flock to REVU
[06:40] <geneo93> i do like dillo for simple things
[06:41] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Ahh that's nice if they did.  I tested it out the other day and it's different than firefox, but extremely nice IMO
[06:41] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: check it :P  then again, it wont be in for a while
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Beats of rage
[06:42] <Hawkwind> We also need the beta version of Gaim 2.0.  It's so much nicer and smoother than the old 1.x code
[06:42] <geneo93> yes it is
[06:42] <DaSkreech> And it's only a year over due
[06:43] <Hawkwind> LOL @ only a year overdue
[06:43] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: add it to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[06:43] <geneo93> smooth scroll
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Beats of Rage?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Doubt anyone will pick it up
[06:43] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: i think there are unofficial builds of that, but it'll have to wait for the correct deps in repos as well, i think
[06:43] <geneo93> Hawkwind thats because what his name was captured by google
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Sean?
[06:44] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Sean Egan
[06:44] <Hawkwind> He's worked for google for almost a year now
[06:45] <geneo93> yeah thats why 2 is held up working on google talk
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Beats%20of%20Rage
[06:45] <Hawkwind> Funny though, he doesn't do much work on GTalk though
[06:46] <Hawkwind> In fact, less than 10% of his time is spent on GTalk
[06:46] <geneo93> hey when the pay is good dont go so fast
[06:46] <Hobbsee> looks like fun
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Yeah I Know! :)
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Hence being on my list
[06:47] <Hawkwind> We also need xu4, http://xu4.sourceforge.net  which is a clone of Ultima IV from 1984.  Huge RPG game
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Course GISDesktop is there as well but I have to write that first :(
[06:47] <DaSkreech> I'm thinking of calling it GISwhere
[06:47] <Hawkwind> Ubuntu seems to be one of the only distros without xu4 actually :(
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Pronounced Guess where of course :)
[06:48] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: package it, or add it to the list :P
[06:48] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: otherwise no one will remember, and no one will do it
[06:48] <geneo93> Hawkwind are you aware that this has no root
[06:49] <geneo93> not as you know it anyway
[06:53] <geneo93> i'm down to 200 mb of memory
[06:54] <Hawkwind> geneo93: What has no root ?
[06:54] <geneo93> ubuntu
[06:54] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: I'm working on things.  Just gotta learn my way around the packaging stuff on Ubuntu.  It's all new to me
[06:54] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: true :)  it is for a lot of people
[06:54] <Hawkwind> geneo93: sudo passwd :P
[06:54] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: it does have root, you have to enable it if you want it
[06:54] <Hawkwind> geneo93: Sets up a traditional root account pretty quick
[06:55] <geneo93> Hawkwind i do it every install
[06:55] <geneo93> i told you i was black sheep
[06:56] <Hawkwind> geneo93: I've known that for a year or so before you moved to Ubuntu
[06:56] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:56] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: What did you do to the live cd ?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Did you get it btw?
[06:56] <geneo93> Hawkwind you should have moved when warty was released
[06:57] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: was trying to fix dad's windows computer.  on a kubuntu hoary live cd
[06:57] <geneo93> Das yes bookmarked
[06:57] <Hawkwind> geneo93: I actually tested it when the first release was made.  But I wasn't unhappy with Mandriva at the time so I didn't give it a fair chance
[06:58] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: The fix was to *install* Kubuntu onto that computer :P
[06:58] <geneo93> well when they went to yearly cycle is when i strated looking
[06:58] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:58] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: i tried that, i did offer :P
[06:59] <Hawkwind> As long as you offered we have to give you much credit ;0
[06:59] <Hawkwind> Ackk, smiley typo
[06:59] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: so you are packaging Ultima?
[07:00] <geneo93> =))
[07:00] <FisherP> geneo93, hey, there's a problem with my hardware somewhere - though it works in windoze my NVIDIA will not work in Linux. I just installed SimplyMepis and it was a no-go.
[07:00] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[07:00] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I'm going to try.  Not sure if I'll be successful yet since building debs is still totally new to me
[07:00] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:01] <FisherP> ubotu, been there, done that
[07:01] <ubotu> FisherP: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:01] <geneo93> Hobbsee:  he's been through the mill on that thing
[07:01] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[07:02] <mark_g> Ellos anybody gotten the new ati drivers (8.25) for the x1900xtx running on 6.06?
[07:02] <geneo93> ubotu:  do you have a kitten named mittens
[07:02] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, geneo93
[07:03] <Hawkwind> ubotu: No, but he needs to :P
[07:03] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hawkwind
[07:03] <geneo93> i think he got hit by 120mm fan
[07:04] <Hobbsee> !bot
[07:04] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:04] <Hawkwind> geneo93: ^^^^^^^^
[07:04] <Hawkwind> Heh
[07:04] <FisherP> ubotu, i don't think it's a driver, or kernal problem. I think I've fried the bios or some other HW issue
[07:04] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, FisherP
[07:04] <Hawkwind> FisherP: ubotu is a bot, not a human :P
[07:05] <FisherP> Hawkwind, yea, I figured out after that post.
[07:05] <geneo93> opps zerro memory left
[07:06] <FisherP> I'm actually new to the IRC so I guess there's other surprises in store 4 me eh
[07:06] <geneo93> have to reboot
[07:06] <FisherP> geneo93 cya soon
[07:07] <mark_g> I tried using the wiki guide  ( http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide )  but got an error that I'm not sure what to do with when I tried to run (sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) ) 11 resources open..
[07:09] <FisherP> !nvidia
[07:09] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:11] <mark_g> anybody mind helpin me stumble through getting the ati driver running?  ;-)
[07:11] <FisherP> geneo93 welcome back
[07:12] <geneo93> yeah got tons of memory now
[07:12] <FisherP> what happened that you ran out of memory ??
[07:12] <geneo93> 3gb
[07:12] <geneo93> azureus
[07:13] <geneo93> never did that in mandriva before
[07:14] <FisherP> geneo93, mark_g is trying to get his ATI up and running, do you know anything ??
[07:14] <geneo93> not ati
[07:14] <geneo93> !ati
[07:14] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:14] <lwizardl> if i wanted to do a complete system backup in ubuntu how would i do this?
[07:15] <mark_g> was tryin to use the wiki guide but when I run sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) it give me an 11 tesources are open error
[07:15] <FisherP> sorry mark_g i'm an nvidia fan
[07:15] <BlankB> lwizardl: I use partimage.
[07:15] <mark_g> np is my first ati they was outa the 7900's at best buy the day I went
[07:16] <geneo93> FisherP:  so what does a clean install do with nvidia
[07:16] <FisherP> lwizardl, i have a copy of Ghost for linux i use for my windoze parts
[07:17] <lwizardl> BlankB, ok i've been trying this for a week and finally everything seems to be working correctly so i want to have a way to backup the config to make it easy to do again
[07:17] <FisherP> geneo93, dunno, I think that will be my next port of call, though I did just do a clean install of SimplyMEPIS 3.4.2
[07:17] <BlankB> lwizardl: ghost for linux or parimage do partition backups. It's a good way to make sure you can come back to exactly the way you did the backup.
[07:18] <geneo93> FisherP:  could it be that its using other port for output
[07:18] <BlankB> lwizardl: I usually run it from knoppix but I bet it can be run from the (k)ubuntu live cd.
[07:19] <FisherP> geneo93, yeah I'm thinking that the onboard SiS is causing an interferance, but I don't know how to switch it off - there's no options in the bios
[07:19] <geneo93> black list it then
[07:20] <FisherP> lwizardl, BlankB, have you though of using dar ??
[07:20] <mark_g> anybody know what I can do about this error?
[07:20] <mark_g>  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:20] <mark_g> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:20] <mark_g> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:20] <BlankB> !dar
[07:20] <ubotu> BlankB: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:21] <geneo93> mark_g:  you have two things open like adept and apt in terminal
[07:21] <FisherP> geneo93, what, blacklist the motherboard ?? I have one more thing to try before doing that. I have an old nvidia 32M card that i could try i spose
[07:21] <BlankB> FisherP: that seems similar to rsync.
[07:21] <mark_g> ahh ok thanks 8)
[07:22] <geneo93> FisherP:  the sis onboard
[07:22] <FisherP> BlankB, i've never tried rsync, is it any good?
[07:23] <BlankB> FisherP: actually dar seems more like tar...after reading more about it.
[07:23] <BlankB> rsync is used to make a copy of a dir tree to some other place.
[07:23] <FisherP> geneo93, if i go there, where is the list ??
[07:23] <geneo93> FisherP:  /etc/modprobe.d /blacklist
[07:24] <khaije1> /celar
[07:25] <FisherP> BlankB, then no, dar is very much like tar, except for CD's it's really quite extensive. I've read that the Ubuntu team are thinking about using it for a backup system in the next release
[07:25] <FisherP> geneo93, DOH, now I get you, i didn't even think of that.
[07:26] <sponix> why doesn't kubuntu 6.06 have reiserfs as an option ?
[07:26] <geneo93> sponix:  it does on dvd
[07:28] <sponix> whats the name of the dvd tools for comandline burning (cdrtools equiv) ?
[07:31] <geneo93> never used cdrecord for dvds
[07:31] <FisherP> geneo93, if i blacklist SiS all the other SiS modules go as well don't they, including the usb controllers.
[07:32] <FisherP> geneo93 there is a dvd-tools which include things like dvd+rw-format
[07:32] <geneo93> well do a lsmod and see if the sis driver is loaded for sis video
[07:33] <FisherP> geneo93, sponix there is a dvd-tools which include things like dvd+rw-format
[07:33] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i configure wich java to use?
[07:33] <imbrandon> sudo update-alternitives --config java
[07:33] <geneo93> FisherP:  i like to keep it simple
[07:33] <imbrandon> brb
[07:33] <DjDarkman> thank you
[07:34] <sponix> what do you all use to burn dvd iso images ?
[07:34] <geneo93> DjDarkman:  use 3 i think
[07:34] <geneo93> k3b
[07:34] <FisherP> geneo93, sponix i use k3b, but then i am a gui freak
[07:34] <DjDarkman> yes i think so two
[07:34] <imbrandon> k3b
[07:37] <geneo93> FisherP:  is it loaded
[07:38] <FisherP> geneo93 i don't think so. there's sis_agp, sis900, and sata_sis, but i don't reckonise any as being the video
[07:39] <FisherP> geneo93 I'm trying to google it to confirm
[07:39] <geneo93> sis 900 sound like it
[07:40] <geneo93> nope eth0 driver
[07:40] <FisherP> geneo93 yup, i was just about to say that
[07:41] <FisherP> geneo93 and sata is raid, and agp is needed 'cause it controls the agp services
[07:41] <geneo93> just blacklist the sis_agp and see what happens
[07:42] <geneo93> you can always use nano to comment it out if that dont help
[07:42] <FisherP> geneo93, yes, if it doesn't work it's a good thing i have an alternate linux distro on board to fix it.
[07:43] <FisherP> geneo93, confirm pls the line reads 'blacklist sis_agp'
[07:44] <geneo93> then after you can modprobe nvidia
[07:44] <geneo93> no just sis_agp
[07:45] <FisherP> geneo93 then why would all the lines currently in the blacklist file have 'blacklist' in front??
[07:46] <geneo93> yeah i guess yiur right
[07:47] <FisherP> geneo93, i migght reboot so that everything is clean. ttyl
[07:47] <geneo93> funny those thing are useally disable when you plug in diff card
[07:48] <FisherP> geneo93, yea, you don't know who u're talking to.... :-)
[07:48] <FisherP> ttyl
[07:49] <geneo93> k
[07:52] <pagey> kuickshow in kubunto?
[07:52] <pagey> u
[07:53] <geneo93> yes it is
[07:53] <pagey> ok it is not in mepis6
[07:53] <pagey> kde 3.5.3
[08:08] <FisherP> geneo93, it's me again.... the feedback is not positive :-(
[08:08] <geneo93> no
[08:08] <geneo93> damn i wonder whats the problem
[08:09] <geneo93> agp 1x board with 2x or 4x card
[08:09] <FisherP> geneo93, you and me both.
[08:09] <geneo93> is that a ecs board
[08:10] <FisherP> geneo93 i doubt it, the motherboard i bought last year
[08:10] <FisherP> geneo93, no, it
[08:10] <FisherP> geneo93, no, it's a winfast..
[08:10] <geneo93> p4 board
[08:10] <FisherP> geneo93, amd
[08:10] <geneo93> oh
[08:10] <FisherP> geneo93, amd64
[08:11] <geneo93> and your using 64 bit driver
[08:11] <FisherP> geneo93, nope, 386 kernal, 386 driver
[08:12] <geneo93> FisherP:  the only thing i can tell you is to use well that maybe problem
[08:12] <geneo93> u try 64 bit amd
[08:13] <FisherP> geneo93, what dl kubuntu 64, does it come with 64b NVIDIA
[08:13] <geneo93> no but repositoies have 64 bit driver
[08:14] <FisherP> geneo93, what about java, acrobat, and the other proprietaries that refuse to compile 64 ??
[08:14] <imbrandon> 32bit chroot
[08:14] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:14] <imbrandon> thats what i do on my amd64
[08:15] <geneo93> man all i can tell you is the 386 kernel just aint going to cut it
[08:15] <imbrandon> geneo93, for what ?
[08:15] <FisherP> OK, I'll give anything a wirl once
[08:15] <BlankB> !tell blankb about java
[08:15] <geneo93> you could try 686
[08:15] <tuxcicles> i thought it automatically detected 64 and installed the correct kernel in dapper?
[08:16] <imbrandon> tuxcicles, no you have to download the 64bit cd
[08:16] <dirtstyles> morning all
[08:16] <FisherP> afternoon dirtstyles
[08:16] <dirtstyles> got a question i am a linux noob
[08:16] <dirtstyles> :P
[08:16] <imbrandon> !ask
[08:16] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:16] <imbrandon> ask away
[08:16] <dirtstyles> i installed kubuntu
[08:16] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:16] <dirtstyles> when it boots
[08:16] <dirtstyles> the resolution all fucked
[08:17] <imbrandon> please watch you language in here, but how is it messed up?
[08:17] <imbrandon> at what point ?
[08:17] <dirtstyles> sorry
[08:17] <tuxcicles> dirtstyles: video card? mobo?
[08:17] <dirtstyles> when logging in
[08:17] <dirtstyles> mobo is asus 64 bit
[08:17] <dirtstyles> vcard pci express 6600
[08:18] <imbrandon> before you login try ctl + alt + f1 and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:18] <FisherP> geneo93 I think i'll try 686 first, less to dl
[08:18] <elknof3> does anyone knows how to use wine?
[08:18] <geneo93> i would
[08:18] <imbrandon> FisherP, are you on a amd64 and wanting to run a 32bit kernel ? try -k7 not 686
[08:18] <imbrandon> !wine
[08:18] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[08:19] <elknof3> yeap but do you k now how to config
[08:19] <tuxcicles> FisherP: Why not just change your repositories to 64bit and dist-upgrade?
[08:19] <FisherP> imbrandon, yes, i have amd64 thanks for the headup
[08:19] <imbrandon> tuxcicles, its the same repos, it depends on the kernel your running
[08:19] <dirtstyles> OK so do that and then?
[08:20] <dirtstyles> writing this down
[08:20] <FisherP> tuxcicles, esentially since most of the proprietaries don't compile64, and i think what's the point
[08:20] <imbrandon> dirtstyles, that should fix your res issues
[08:20] <dirtstyles> tyvm guys
[08:21] <imbrandon> tuxcicles, all the repos are exaxtly the same , it depends on the running kernel for apt to determine the arch
[08:21] <imbrandon> not the repos
[08:21] <tuxcicles> oh, are they going to start a 64bit repo ever?
[08:21] <geneo93> why
[08:22] <imbrandon> tuxcicles, thats not how repos work, all the sparc i386 amd64 etc are all stored in one repos
[08:22] <imbrandon> so the repos stay the same , apt determines what arch you are running by your kernel
[08:22] <imbrandon> and downloads the correct soft
[08:23] <tuxcicles> everything is i386 then?
[08:23] <imbrandon> this isnt a rpm distro ;)
[08:23] <imbrandon> tuxcicles,  NO
[08:23] <imbrandon> tuxcicles, your not listning
[08:23] <imbrandon> ok look
[08:23] <tuxcicles> :P
[08:23] <imbrandon> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/
[08:23] <tuxcicles> ok then all he would need is linux-amd64
[08:24] <imbrandon> see all the arches are held in one repos
[08:24] <tuxcicles> ok thanks imbrandon
[08:24] <imbrandon> tuxcicles,  sorta but thats more correct BUT wien changing arches you need to get all the libs too
[08:25] <imbrandon> ie right now all the lib names would be a mess if he dist upgraded to a diffrent arch
[08:25] <imbrandon> its not the same as changing versions
[08:25] <tuxcicles> ok, sorry, havent had a need to know quite yet
[08:25] <FisherP> it's a good thing then that i do an apt-get -d
[08:25] <imbrandon> becosue on i386 all are 32bit libs , on amd64 there are both 64bit and 32bit so the naming convention is diffrent
[08:25] <BlankB> !java
[08:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:25] <BlankB> !javadebs
[08:26] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[08:26] <imbrandon> BlankB ...
[08:26] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[08:26] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre is probably ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[08:27] <imbrandon> FisherP, why is that ?
[08:27] <imbrandon> shouldent matter ;)
[08:27] <FisherP> imbrandon, yeah, i thought that as soon as i pressed enter
[08:28] <ReN-> anyone here?
[08:28] <FisherP> I don't like doing an upgrade or change like that in X
[08:28] <ReN-> which is better, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:29] <imbrandon> ReN-, this is a kubuntu room so your always going to get the anwser kubuntu , best to use both and see what suits you
[08:29] <geneo93> depends on if you like kde or gnome
[08:29] <FisherP> ReN kubuntu of course :-) depends
[08:29] <johan_> I like kde :P
[08:29] <Goat-san> do you like the kde desktop ot gnome desktop
[08:29] <Goat-san> anyone feel like helping me do some simple bash scripting?
[08:29] <johan_> but when i use my laptop with lower p[erformance gnome is working better
[08:29] <ReN-> can i use both server and desktop version in kubuntu?
[08:30] <imbrandon> ReN-, you could if you have a need for both
[08:30] <FisherP> ReN, don't see why not
[08:30] <BlankB> !java5
[08:30] <ubotu> BlankB: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <imbrandon> BlankB ...
[08:30] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[08:30] <ubotu> from memory, sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[08:30] <BlankB> !javaplugin
[08:30] <ubotu> BlankB: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <FisherP> ReN, I have a LAMP running and I'm not an ISP, and I only host formyself
[08:31] <imbrandon> BlankB, all this information is on the restricedformats page
[08:31] <BlankB> ahh.
[08:31] <ReN-> i think i just need one driver, im using the edimax 7317 wireless usb...are there any sites i can go to install this one
[08:32] <imbrandon> ReN-, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[08:33] <ReN-> thanks
[08:33] <FisherP> imbrandon, why would apt-get recommend lilo when I try and dl the k7 linux kernal
[08:33] <imbrandon> FisherP, becouse its stupid and dont know you have grub installed , never pay attn to sugested packages from apt-get
[08:33] <FisherP> lol
[08:47] <RawSewage> tj9991, what do you mean colors
[08:47] <RawSewage> did you install it already
[08:47] <tj9991> yes im running it off the hd
[08:47] <tj9991> i just installed firefox
[08:47] <tj9991> using apt
[08:47] <RawSewage> you have colors right now, right?
[08:49] <tj9991> no
[08:49] <tj9991> its black and white
[08:49] <RawSewage> tj9991, are you using Konversation
[08:49] <tj9991> no
[08:49] <tj9991> im talking about a konsole
[08:49] <RawSewage> black and white??
[08:49] <RawSewage> oh
[08:50] <RawSewage> Rightclick - Settings
[08:51] <ReN-> im testing some kubuntu
[08:51] <RawSewage> sorry
[08:51] <RawSewage> Settings - Schema
[08:52] <RawSewage> tj9991, did you get all the updates
[08:52] <tj9991> i already used schema
[08:52] <RawSewage> I'd do that first
[08:52] <tj9991> its transparent
[08:52] <tj9991> updates?
[08:52] <tj9991> how do I update?
[08:52] <RawSewage> click that ! in the taskbar
[08:52] <RawSewage> is there one
[08:53] <tj9991> 286 updated packages
[08:53] <tj9991> yes
[08:53] <RawSewage> lol
[08:55] <tj9991> its making me enter my password a lot
[08:55] <tj9991> can I change a setting somewhere for that
[08:55] <word> Even if you could..I wouldn't.
[08:55] <RawSewage> make a shorter password
[08:56] <Lynoure> tj9991: Not a lot in normal daily use, actually, just when you are fiddling with things or updating
[08:56] <tj9991> will it not gripe at me if i change it to a short password?
[08:57] <RawSewage> I doubt it
[08:57] <byen> guys anyone know how to increase the size of the text on the window list in the taskbar?
[08:57] <byen> length rather
[08:58] <geneo93> remove somethings
[09:00] <byen> no i mean the size of the tab on the taskbar
[09:00] <byen> that can be adjusted. but i forgot how
[09:01] <Lynoure> I wonder why kaffeine starts playing this one dvd fine, sounds and all, and then decides the sound device is not available, always at the same stop (the beginning of the actual movie)
[09:01] <geneo93> you can add another pannel if you want
[09:01] <tj9991> is there a way to add custom entries to the taskbar menu?
[09:01] <RawSewage> like what
[09:01] <tj9991> firefox mainly
[09:01] <tj9991> instead of an icon
[09:02] <RawSewage> its in the start menu
[09:02] <RawSewage> is that what you mean
[09:02] <tj9991> konqueror is
[09:02] <tj9991> firefox isnt
[09:02] <geneo93> oh you right click pannel and add app
[09:02] <RawSewage> in Internet
[09:02] <tj9991> i went to add/remove programs, its not in the list
[09:02] <tj9991> right
[09:02] <RawSewage> restart
[09:02] <tj9991> ah,thanks
[09:02] <Lynoure> hmph, I don't restart helps there...
[09:03] <Lynoure> unless he has installed firefox, which is not installed by default
[09:03] <RawSewage> KDE apps dont require restart to show up in the Start Menu
[09:03] <RawSewage> just outside apps
[09:03] <tj9991> restarting linux, blasphemy
[09:03] <Lynoure> No need to restart _linux_
[09:03] <Goat-san> anyone want to help me with some simple bash scripting?
[09:03] <tj9991> oh i can kill kde?
[09:03] <Lynoure> If you deeply feel the urge to restart something, restart X
[09:03] <RawSewage> log out, and restart X Server
[09:03] <RawSewage> its not too painful
[09:04] <geneo93> just restart x server ctrl+alt +backspace
[09:04] <tj9991> lol
[09:04] <tj9991> i think raw just tried the combo
[09:05] <geneo93> opps
[09:05] <RawSewage> that worked
[09:05] <RawSewage> I didnt know about that
[09:05] <geneo93> hey it worked
[09:06] <geneo93> hang around awhile you'll learn lots of tricks
[09:06] <RawSewage> Ive been here for weeks
[09:07] <RawSewage> oh you
[09:07] <RawSewage> tj9991, are you downloading updates
[09:07] <tj9991> they downloaded
[09:07] <tj9991> why cant it download/install asynchronously
[09:07] <tj9991> that makes too much sense i guess
[09:07] <RawSewage> didnt they install
[09:07] <tj9991> its installing now
[09:07] <RawSewage> oh
[09:08] <geneo93> ctrl+alt+f1 will get you to tty1 and ctrl+alt +f7 will get you back
[09:08] <tj9991> but i could have installed a few packages while the others were downloading
[09:08] <RawSewage> drop that in the Suggestion  Box
[09:08] <RawSewage> whats tty1
[09:08] <tj9991> terminal, right?
[09:08] <geneo93> tj9991:  no you cant
[09:08] <tj9991> bash prompt i think
[09:09] <geneo93> full screen bash
[09:09] <tj9991> but in my experiences, when i change to a different terminal from X, when I go back X is going wtf? and crashes
[09:10] <Lynoure> tj9991: something wrong then :( Try to gather info and file a bug, if you haven't already
[09:10] <tj9991> that was on gentoo
[09:10] <geneo93> should'nt matter
[09:11] <tj9991> hmm
[09:11] <Lynoure> tj9991: oh well :) I've never tried gentoo, myself, seemed too bleeding edge to me and I'm too busy to bleed much :)
[09:11] <geneo93> Lynoure: why are u using this then
[09:12] <Lynoure> geneo93: dapper is not bleeding edge, edgy is, at the moment
[09:12] <geneo93> na its not even hatched yet
[09:12] <geneo93> now cooker i've been working on is
[09:12] <Lynoure> geneo93: And most of the time dapper just works. Not much bleeding involved. Used to use debian unstable, not much bleeding on that either :)
[09:13] <RawSewage> how do you get out of tty1 again lol
[09:13] <RawSewage> I had to reboot
[09:13] <geneo93> well i have to sleep cyas l8r
[09:13] <RawSewage> I didnt know how to get back
[09:13] <Lynoure> RawSewage: ctrl+alt+f7
[09:13] <RawSewage> ty
[09:14] <geneo93> raw ctrl+alt+f7
[09:14] <RawSewage> tj9991, try Katapult
[09:14] <RawSewage> alt+spacebar
[09:14] <RawSewage> and start typing
[09:15] <RawSewage> you can use it to launch things, or as a calculator
[09:15] <RawSewage> you probably have to restart X to see Firefox in it though
[09:15] <RawSewage> I dont even use Firefox anymore
[09:16] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror.  I set up shortcuts for anything in it
[09:21] <RawSewage> test
[09:26] <word> how do you close a game that's locked up and is full screen?
[09:27] <Lynoure> word: go to a console, do ps x, the kill the process number
[09:28] <word> how can you do that in full screen?
[09:28] <Lynoure> word: that ctrl+alt-thing above should still work
[09:28] <word> ctrl alt what?
[09:28] <Lynoure> word: ctrl+alt+f1 for example
[09:29] <word> i'll try that quick
[09:29] <RawSewage> wait
[09:29] <RawSewage> use ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[09:29] <Lynoure> but if you are already on linux writing this... you can prolly do it there
[09:29] <Lynoure> whereever you are, as long as you get a command line
[09:29] <ralph> Hello, I am here with a stupid question (or two) How can I make the Trashcan appear on the Dapper Desktop, OR, How can I empty the Trash?
[09:30] <word> yah i just did ctrl+alt+backspace to exit out of it
[09:30] <word> but that restarts x..so not exactly a preferable method
[09:30] <Lynoure> word: Oh, then you killed the game already, most likely
[09:30] <word> and ctrl+alt+f7 returns you to kde after you do commandline?
[09:30] <word> yah it's dead :P
[09:31] <Lynoure> word: yes. But something things lock up so badly even killing x does not work. In those cases it is handy to have a ssh server on ubuntu, but that does not come installed by default.
[09:31] <Lynoure> s/something/sometimes
[09:37] <word> Lynoure: I just pressed a button and it was typing some text and no button worked to get me out of it i was playing 'nogravity'
[09:38] <RawSewage> to increase refresh rate, you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  right
[09:38] <RawSewage> if the one you want isnt avaialalbe in the gui
[09:38] <mrmist> Hi guys
[09:39] <mrmist> My screen "shakes" once in a while, and when my PC is booting, something's wring with my screen
[09:39] <mrmist> wrong
[09:39] <mrmist> I'm on a laptop
[09:40] <mrmist> Any Idea what's wrong ?
[09:40] <Lynoure> word: I have no idea what you mean. What is "it" in this context?
[09:42] <word> Lynoure: I pressed T in nogravity and it opened up a text input on th screen that i couldn't get out of
[09:44] <Lynoure> I don't even know what nogravity is...couldn't find it with apt-cache search. Some game, I guess.
[09:45] <Lynoure> mrmist: which laptop?
[09:48] <ralph> Anyone know how can I make the Trashcan appear on the Dapper Desktop, OR, How can I empty the Trash?
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !mpe
[09:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Evil] [Ernie] 
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !mp3
[09:49] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ralph
[09:49] <[Evil] [Ernie] > there should be a trashcan icon on your taskbar
[09:50] <RawSewage> there is
[09:50] <[Evil] [Ernie] > otherwise its located at trash:/
[09:50] <RawSewage> oh
[09:50] <RawSewage> sorry
[09:50] <kuzmaster> ralph, create a shortcut to trash:/ on your desktop
[09:50] <RawSewage> eww
[09:50] <kuzmaster> [Evil] [Ernie] , you beat me to it
[09:50] <RawSewage> the trash can icon is better
[09:51] <RawSewage> also, SuperKaramba has a nice trashcan thing
[09:51] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me why my taskbar rises slowly when i bring it up (it hides automaticly)
[09:51] <kuzmaster> and how to fix it
[09:52] <RawSewage> turn off autohide
[09:53] <kuzmaster> i want auto hide
[09:53] <RawSewage> you can adjust the speed
[09:53] <kuzmaster> ive tried that, that dosnt help
[09:53] <kuzmaster> dosnt do much difference
[09:53] <RawSewage> that only affects hiding?
[09:53] <kuzmaster> and the speed varies
[09:54] <RawSewage> did you adjust the bottom part
[09:54] <kuzmaster> somtimes it will be slow, others fast
[09:54] <RawSewage> Panel Animation
[09:54] <kuzmaster> ???
[09:54] <RawSewage> has a slider bar
[09:54] <RawSewage> in the Hiding section
[09:54] <kuzmaster> oh yeah, yes, thats what i changed, but it dosnt do much
[09:54] <kuzmaster> yeah, i know
[09:54] <RawSewage> what about the thing near the top
[09:54] <RawSewage> Hide Automatically
[09:54] <RawSewage> 3 seconds
[09:54] <RawSewage> oh nm
[09:55] <tj9991> sudo keeps saying "timestamp too far in the future"
[09:55] <tj9991> should I restart?
[09:55] <RawSewage> wtf
[09:56] <kuzmaster> can your search pastebin by authors?
[09:56] <RawSewage> Ive never seen that before
[09:57] <RawSewage> timestamp for what
[09:57] <Lynoure> tj9991: sudo in general, or sudo something?
[09:57] <tj9991> sudo anything
[09:58] <Lynoure> tj9991: and your clock is roughly accurate?
[09:58] <tj9991> it just updated with the time server
[09:59] <tj9991> argh
[09:59] <tj9991> ill try restarting the whole computer
[09:59] <tj9991> see what that does
[09:59] <kuzmaster> can your search pastebin by authors?, becuase i want to find somthing by imbrandon
[09:59] <imbrandon> kuzmaster,
[09:59] <imbrandon> what do you need ?
[10:00] <kuzmaster> the mods that you made to file in ~/.kde, that changes somethings in the taskbat
[10:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[10:00] <[Evil] [Ernie] > how do you use apt-get again?
[10:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it just tells me invalid operation >.>
[10:01] <imbrandon> that was chavo not i
[10:01] <kuzmaster> i forget what the file is called and where it is located
[10:01] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] , sudo apt-get <command>
[10:01] <kuzmaster> i know, but you uploaded that file into pastbin
[10:01] <kuzmaster> and i need that again
[10:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > even if im logged in as root already?
[10:02] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] , why on earth would you be loggin in as root
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > aye.. just says invalid operation
[10:02] <kuzmaster> [Evil] [Ernie] , eg apt-get install ktorrent
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > for the duration of the terminal
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > forgot the install part
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you :)
[10:02] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] , still a bad idea but what exactly are you trying to run
[10:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > was just trying to get a package
[10:03] <[Evil] [Ernie] > a bad idea if the boogey man were out to get me
[10:03] <kuzmaster> [Evil] [Ernie] , welcome
[10:03] <imbrandon> bad idea becouse if you type one wrong command into the terminal you can fry permissions
[10:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well i just be careful what i type :)
[10:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and if i dont know what im doing, then they would get fried anyway
[10:04] <[Evil] [Ernie] > right after i typed in my password :)
[10:04] <Lynoure> I can understand people wanting to log in as root... I sometimes think I shouldn't trust full sudo to account that does all the stuff I do
[10:05] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, so can you help me with that file, i need yours again
[10:05] <kuzmaster> and the location of it
[10:05] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, i'm not on that box atm and like i said chavo set that up not i
[10:06] <kuzmaster> ok, thanx anyway
[10:06] <cipri> hi can i merge partitions?
[10:06] <imbrandon> brb
[10:06] <imbrandon> cipri, with unionfs there are ways
[10:06] <kuzmaster> brb
[10:06] <cipri> ok
[10:06] <cipri> 10x
[10:08] <Lynoure> I mean, I even install binary only stuff occasionally, could be easy to slip in a keylogger that then gets what it needs to become root very very easily
[10:10] <kuzmaster> i fixed my slowly rising tackbat problem
[10:10] <kuzmaster> taskbar**
[10:11] <kuzmaster> can i get limewire from adept?
[10:11] <tj9991> in gentoo I have coloring in my konsole window, but with ubuntu its all one color
[10:11] <tj9991> is that in the schema settings hidden somewhere, or am I not looking hard enough?
[10:12] <kuzmaster> can i install limewire via adept?
[10:13] <kuzmaster> can i?
[10:13] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmm?
[10:15] <kuzmaster> if not, then how can i install it
[10:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > whats a good player to listen to mp3's with?
[10:16] <kuzmaster> !limewire
[10:16] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:16] <kuzmaster> how do i run the runLime.sh file?
[10:17] <Lynoure> Do all users in kubuntu get the update notifications?
[10:18] <Lynoure> kuzmaster: you get it to be runnable, then do ./runLime.sh in that directory
[10:18] <Lynoure> I'm considering switching the sudo rights away from my daily user account
[10:18] <kuzmaster> how do i get it to me runable?
[10:19] <Lynoure> kuzmaster: chmod a+x runLime.sh
[10:19] <kuzmaster> ok, thanx
[10:19] <kuzmaster> now i just need to download it again
[10:19] <kuzmaster> lol
[10:21] <kuzmaster> do i need to be sudo to do chmod a+x runLime.sh?
[10:22] <kuzmaster> nm
[10:26] <tj9991> does folding@home have a apt package?
[10:28] <bob_in_florence> Just re-installed Kubuntu on the laptop. Successfull!
[10:29] <kuzmaster> bob_in_florence, congrats
[10:29] <jespert> Whats the name of the metapackage with all the development tools? (make, gcc, etc..)
[10:31] <bob_in_florence> the only think fastidious: had to copy one-by-one the .kde/share/config and /kde/share/apps files, because didn't wanted to get back the problems I had before. but nothing lost.
[10:33] <alessandro> Hello guys!
[10:35] <alessandro> I have a win Server. Which program (like Remote Desktop Connection under Windows) could be used to connect via LAN to this server from my kubuntu?
[10:35] <MetaMorfoziS> !frostwire
[10:35] <ubotu> hmm... frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[10:37] <kuzmaster> alessandro, vnc
[10:37] <kuzmaster> alessandro, you will need to download a vnc server on the win computer
[10:38] <kuzmaster> alessandro, then a vnc client/viewer program for kubuntu
[10:38] <kuzmaster> alessandro, i think kubuntu comes with one
[10:38] <alessandro> Thanks kuzmaster. I'll try it now.
[10:38] <RawSewage> tj9991, do you have any questions
[10:38] <kuzmaster> try krdc
[10:38] <alessandro> Ok
[10:38] <kuzmaster> alessandro, try krdc, its in the internet section of the kmenu
[10:39] <alessandro> Found it! Try to connect to the server now.
[10:41] <Dark_Oppressor> i just burned an installer cd for kubuntu, but when i boot to it and select run or install kubuntu, it just runs, doesnt let me install it
[10:41] <visik7> Dark_Oppressor: run it
[10:41] <tj9991> other than youtube logging me in as someone else on a fresh installation of an os, no
[10:41] <tj9991> but this youtube thing is bugging me
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> o want to install it, not run a live cd
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> i want*
[10:42] <visik7> Dark_Oppressor: and after all is loaded double click on install
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> oh i see
[10:42] <RawSewage> weird
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> well then that takes me to my next problem
[10:42] <Dark_Oppressor> when i try to run it, it loads up then my monitors give me an out of range thing
[10:43] <Dark_Oppressor> if i change the resolution on the boot menu before i even run it, will that change the resolution it runs in?
[10:43] <Dark_Oppressor> i think it was f4 that gives an option for resolution
[10:43] <visik7> hx
[10:43] <visik7> jz
[10:43] <visik7> k
[10:43] <visik7> sorry
[10:43] <visik7> use the alternate cd
[10:44] <visik7> text installation
[10:44] <visik7> no resolution/livecd problems
[10:44] <visik7> (and works better (for kubuntu))
[10:44] <Dark_Oppressor> ah ok
[10:44] <Dark_Oppressor> thanks
[10:45] <Dark_Oppressor> ill go grab that and give it a go
[10:49] <mrmist> I need a tips
[10:49] <mrmist> I'm compiling this app, and during compilation I get: sh: gtk-config: command not found
[10:50] <andy_> hi guys, I have a litlle problem, is someone here wo can/will help me?
[10:51] <mrmist> Don't know if I'll know, but I'll give it a shot
[10:52] <Lynoure> andy_: Hard to tell before hearing about your problem, but usually people are willing to try to help
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> got an hp deskjet 610CL trying to get working... had no problem in gnome nor did I need a driver. in setting it up, it detects and even names the printer correctly on Local par port. Builds the driver list and after selecting the correct one I get "unable to create driver: driver does not exist or you do not have correct permisssions" (im root/administrator) and yet after this error message it asks if I want to print a test page
[10:52] <CaptainMorgan> d.. any suggestrions?
[10:52] <mrmist> sorry... I haven't configured printers yet
[10:53] <andy_> okay thanks. I'm new with linux, yesterday i installed kubuntu. at the installation it didn`t ask me to set the root-password. now it is set anyhow, and I dunno it. is there a default-password set which I have to change?
[10:54] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: What happens when you try to print the test page?
[10:54] <CaptainMorgan> Lynoure: - garblation
[10:54] <Lynoure> andy_: By default root in unactivated, and everythig works with sudo
[10:54] <kozz> mrmist: you need the devel packages for libgtk
[10:54] <kozz> mrmist: like libgtk1.2-dev
[10:54] <CaptainMorgan> Lynoure: garbleness and paper push until you shut it off
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> googled for drivers but apparently there are none...
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> why would I need no driver for Gnome.. yet need one for Kde?
[10:55] <andy_>  @lynoure, how can i use sudo
[10:55] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: I'm mostly a non-GUI person, so I'd start with looking at linux-printing.org and apt-getting the drivers they mention (if any)
[10:55] <CaptainMorgan> Lynoure: I tried to print as a raw printer.. .same result
[10:56] <mrmist> kozz: ah... thanks :) of course I should have thought of that
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> that a valid link?
[10:56] <CaptainMorgan> came up bad....
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> got
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> it
[10:57] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: it's no link but should let you find it
[10:57] <mrmist> er... still no gtk-config though...
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> omg Lynoure that's mostly an add iste
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> site
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> pay per click
[10:58] <andy_> thanks guys! byE
[10:58] <Lynoure> Settings -> Users&Groups says "The Module Users & Groups could not be loaded". Damn
[10:58] <CaptainMorgan> no real links..
[10:58] <Lynoure> andy: sudo command         on command line, then your password
[10:59] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: I have no idea what you are talking about. google for linux printing
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.linux-printing.org is junk
[10:59] <Lynoure> CaptainMorgan: maybe it was without a - or with something else. I said it was no link
[10:59] <kozz> mrmist: strange, I got it with libgtk1.2-dev in /usr/bin/gtk-config
[11:00] <_stefan> hello, I want to ask for something to add to the next release of kubuntu
[11:01] <_stefan> more shortcuts like normaly windows also has, some like windows-key + D = Showing the Desktop
[11:01] <_stefan> or windows-key + E = showing konqueror file system
[11:02] <Lynoure> Can everyone else get Users&Groups in System settings to load?
[11:02] <alessandro> Why the fonts used in Firefox are so ugly?
[11:02] <_stefan> I know it can be configured manual but I would add it inside as standard
[11:02] <Lynoure> _stefan: I would hate having those...
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> strange too.. I found some info on www.linuxprinting.org that gives detailed info on the driver in the db - during attempting installation this driver info was the same
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> exact
[11:03] <_stefan> why? Lynoure
[11:03] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:03] <_stefan> because you aren't familiar with it
[11:03] <CaptainMorgan> can I apt-get these drivers?
[11:03] <Lynoure> _stefan: Because this is not windows :)
[11:04] <_stefan> I thaught I would have such an answer
[11:04] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:04] <_stefan> but why there is a start-menu in kde?
[11:05] <Lynoure> _stefan: It's not a start menu
[11:05] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: are you looking for help or just trolling ?
[11:05] <Lynoure> it's a KDE menu
[11:05] <_stefan> yes that's I mean, I'm not trolling
[11:05] <ArmedGeek> well, i just told you twice where to set keyboard shortcuts
[11:06] <_stefan> you've other meanings than me, because you've never used these short-cuts
[11:06] <_stefan> it's much easier
[11:06] <_stefan> thx ArmedGeek
[11:06] <CaptainMorgan> wtf after sudo dpkg --list 'hplip*' the driver is ''''''supposedly''''' on my system...
[11:07] <ArmedGeek> _stefan: and i got news for you, just because it's easy for *you* doesn't mean it's easy for *us*
[11:07] <Lynoure> _stefan: it's only easy to use the shortcuts you are familiar with. That's why it is great that they are easy to configure yourself, instead of being configured to be windowsy by someone else
[11:08] <alessandro> Where i can download kaffeine plugins for videos (avi or divx)?
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> im told to do sudo hp-setup yet hp-setup command is not found
[11:08] <andy_> can someone tell me how to install a tar.gz-file???
[11:08] <Lynoure> _stefan: There is even Windows Scheme (with win key) there for you, already
[11:09] <railk> kubuntu isn't halting my system when its shuts down, it just sits at the "will now halt" line...
[11:09] <railk> is there a bugtracker or something for kubuntu?
[11:10] <CaptainMorgan> sudo /etc/init.d/cups not found????
[11:10] <uniq> captainmorgan: cupsys
[11:11] <Lynoure> Could someone do me a favour and tell me if the can get Users&Groups from System settings to load fine?
[11:12] <uniq> lynoure: loads fine here.
[11:13] <Lynoure> uniq: thanks. For some reason mine does not... and I don't think I have done anything special about it :(
[11:13] <ArmedGeek> Lynoure: loads find here too
[11:14] <uniq> railk: yes, the bugtracker is at https://launchpad.net/malone
[11:14] <railk> uniq: thanks found it already, sorry :P
[11:15] <uniq> railk: ah, no problem :)
[11:15] <Lynoure> Any idea how I could fix it? It saying either something went wrong in an update or there is a third party module orphaned or something. I don't think there should be anything third party installed, related to the Settings
[11:15] <railk> and the bugs seems to be... not uncommon...
[11:15] <CaptainMorgan> uniq: what's the username and password? mine nor root's is working...
[11:16] <uniq> captainmorgan: try to add the cupsys user to the shadow group. 'sudo adduser cupsys shadow' from konsole. then try your username and password.
[11:16] <uniq> captainmorgan: i'm sorry to say that printing is fubar in dapper.
[11:17] <CaptainMorgan> no shit! but why??
[11:17] <CaptainMorgan> something folks forgot when dev'n?
[11:18] <l_r> hello
[11:18] <l_r> is there a chance to have 2.6.17 for kubuntu out by this evening?
[11:19] <_stefan> another question, is it easy to make .deb files for kubuntu from source-programs? Are there tutorials for that?
[11:19] <visik7> will kde 3.5.3 from kubuntu.org be updated for security fixes as fast as on official repos ?
[11:20] <visik7> _stefan: no isn't simple to make a good package it's easy to make a package for you
[11:20] <visik7> btw commonly there are all packages you want
[11:20] <uniq> captainmorgan: don't know. it's sad we have a LTS release with broken printing upon release. but that's the way it is, and we just have to find solutions and try to be positive. :)
[11:20] <uniq> l_r: not in dapper. no.
[11:20] <alessandro> Where is the repository for w32codecs?
[11:20] <l_r> uniq, never?
[11:20] <visik7> alessandro: seveas
[11:20] <uniq> visik7: no,not as fast.
[11:20] <uniq> l_r: not official.
[11:21] <Lynoure> hah, fixed the Users&Groups
[11:21] <visik7> uniq: so it's deprecated ?
[11:21] <visik7> uniq: using kde.3.5.3 ?
[11:21] <alessandro> Hi visik7, can you describe the full URL?
[11:21] <visik7> alessandro: wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:22] <alessandro> Thanks a lot!
[11:22] <uniq> visik7: 3.5.3 is not a official part of (k)ubuntu, so the ubuntu security team will not patch it and fix security issues.
[11:22] <uniq> visik7: the kubuntu developers on the other hand will try to keep them updated and secure.
[11:23] <visik7> ok so it's supported
[11:23] <uniq> lynoure: what was the problem?
[11:23] <uniq> visik7: limited support. you can say.
[11:23] <Lynoure> uniq: No idea, but debfoster:ing seemed to fix it
[11:23] <uniq> lynoure: hum.. ok :)
[11:24] <Lynoure> uniq: Mostly debfostered as a kind of meditation, you know, relaxing and useful activity. Was nice to have a side effect, though :)
[11:25] <_stefan> visik7, no I have several programs that are source and I want to make it work with apt-get, if I can
[11:25] <uniq> lynoure: heh, yes, it sounds a little bit strange though. Would be nice to know what package caused the problem.
[11:26] <visik7> _stefan: write by you ?
[11:26] <Lynoure> uniq: I agree. But I even managed to close the window with the removal list already...
[11:26] <_stefan> no, apps from kde-apps (some especialy for tv-viewing or kind of
[11:26] <uniq> lynoure: not a problem, if more people experience the problem we will figure it out somehow :)
[11:27] <visik7> _stefan: tell a name of a program
[11:29] <kuzmaster> hello all
[11:29] <febdesk> hi. I've compiled a kernel driver for a kubuntu system. How can i build a kubuntu package for such a kernel module ?
[11:30] <Lynoure> I'm kind of curious about what other people keep in their debfoster keepers
[11:30] <_stefan> if you want to install "the latest gimp / opera", or programs like katchtv
[11:31] <heinrich> hi all
[11:31] <heinrich> i forgot my mysql password
[11:31] <kuzmaster> i am installing java via adept, and after the files finish downloading, i hit the show details button (to show whats goin on)
[11:31] <heinrich> so i do wonder where kubuntu installs phpmyadmin
[11:31] <heinrich> so i can look there
[11:31] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, you cant install java via adept , its broke , do it via command line
[11:32] <kuzmaster> and theres an agreement, and its asking me to press ok, but i cant, how i do continue?
[11:32] <RawSewage> tj9991, do you have any questions
[11:32] <kuzmaster> ok
[11:32] <CaptainMorgan> uniq!!!!
[11:32] <heinrich> or any other idea to get to know my lost mysql password?
[11:32] <kuzmaster> sooo, sudo apt-get install java ?
[11:32] <tj9991> no
[11:32] <kuzmaster> what then?
[11:32] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[11:32] <ubotu> hmm... sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[11:32] <kuzmaster> ok ,thanx
[11:32] <visik7> anyone got problem with nvidia when switching to terminal ?
[11:32] <FisherP> heinrich, you won't find the passwork in the phpmyadmin or /var/www/ directory anywhere
[11:32] <uniq> captainmorgan: yes? :)
[11:33] <imbrandon> heinrich, is it a local install ?
[11:33] <CaptainMorgan> after the fourth time going thru the steps I got it working... my gawd.. that was tedious.. I guess it just takes more than expected persistence... thank goodness I had nothing else to do but keep trying..
[11:33] <heinrich> yes local  install
[11:33] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[11:34] <CaptainMorgan> otherwise I may have actually got something else done...
[11:34] <uniq> captainmorgan: great :)
[11:34] <FisherP> heinrich, check the docs on the mysql site.
[11:34] <imbrandon> heinrich, one sec
[11:34] <FisherP> heinrich i forgot my password once, but i've forgotten how i fixed it
[11:35] <CaptainMorgan> can't develop in or tweak a system in LInux without a printer... sheesh...
[11:36] <imbrandon> mysqladmin -u root password newpasshere
[11:36] <imbrandon> heinrich, ^^
[11:36] <imbrandon> btw google is your friend
[11:36] <imbrandon> ;)
[11:40] <febdesk> somebody knows module-assistant ?
[11:42] <mindspit> i installed google earth and i dont get  the main window ... and i dont know why
[11:43] <mindspit> i installed the needed fonts
[11:43] <mindspit> i use an nvidia card
[11:43] <mindspit> google earth does not recognise it
[11:44] <Healot> has you enabled the 3D acceleration?
[11:46] <mindspit>  no.... i dont know how
[11:46] <Healot> !nvidia
[11:46] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:47] <febdesk> !module
[11:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, febdesk
[11:47] <febdesk> :)
[11:47] <Healot> !m-a
[11:47] <ubotu> Healot: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:47] <Healot> !info module-assistant
[11:47] <ubotu> module-assistant: (tool to make module package creation easier), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.10.2 (dapper), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 368 kB
[11:48] <febdesk> nice
[11:48] <febdesk> still doesnt tell me how to do it from a plain tar.gz
[11:48] <uniq> febdesk: what do you need to know about module-assistant?
[11:48] <uniq> compile a module?
[11:48] <uniq> what module?
[11:49] <febdesk> uniq: i'm searching how to create a package for a driver i just built
[11:49] <febdesk> wis-go7007-linux-0.9.8
[11:49] <febdesk> it looks like module-assistant works with already existing packages
[11:49] <PenDraKon> Can someone tell me what I can use to play my movies?
[11:50] <PenDraKon> Is there a version or realplayer I can use?
[11:52] <keyne> PenDraKon: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s02.html
[11:52] <PenDraKon> cheers I will give it a go
[11:57] <heinrich> how can i make in kubuntu  switch possible to gnome and back?
[11:58] <febdesk> heinrich: after installing both gnome and kde you should have the choice in the login menu
[12:00] <heinrich> ok
[12:01] <_edward> anyone know of good tutorial for creating a custom bootsplash for Kubuntu
[12:01] <_edward> tried one and just get a grey screen
[12:03] <_edward> anyone?
[12:03] <Tonio_> _edward: yes
[12:04] <_edward> cool have a link?
[12:04] <Tonio_> _edward: depends on what botsplash you are talking about
[12:04] <_edward> seems its done alot diferent in ubuntu than Fedora
[12:04] <Tonio_> the kdm one or the usplash one ?
[12:04] <_edward> the kernel bootsplash
[12:04] <Tonio_> yes that's not easy to handle
[12:04] <_edward> but would also like to change KDE...at a later time
[12:04] <Tonio_> in fact there are no real tuto, but I have a few informations on that point
[12:05] <Tonio_> usplash takes the colors from the image palette
[12:05] <_edward> a custom one....have made the image and did the usplash stuff
[12:05] <Tonio_> so you need to use a very precise one
[12:05] <_edward> but still no go
[12:05] <Tonio_> 16 colors maximum
[12:05] <_edward> not that I need to its for my MythTv box
[12:05] <_edward> yes
[12:05] <Tonio_> the colors have an ID that you have to respect
[12:05] <_edward> did that
[12:05] <Tonio_> hum...
[12:05] <_edward> ok...maybe thats the problem
[12:06] <Tonio_> I did the image for kubuntu breezy, but someeone else did the dapper one, so I don't know if there are lots of changes
[12:06] <Tonio_> I assume the technique is somehow similar
[12:06] <Tonio_> what I would suggest is probably to base your work on the current image
[12:06] <Tonio_> and play with the palette first to make tests and understand the technique
[12:07] <_edward> OK will look closely at the images from the forum in Gimp and try to determine where to go from there
[12:07] <tobstar> hello everyone
[12:07] <tobstar>  I've got a short question: Is there a Gtk or KDE frontend to Lame that allows me to change the bitrate of existing MP3 files?
[12:07] <_edward> ty...will start there
[12:08] <_edward> having a few problems with kernel-2.6.17 too but nearly done
[12:08] <_edward> dvb problems
[12:10] <keyne> tobstar: you can do this with kaudiocreator
[12:10] <keyne> no sorry, i misread your question
[12:12] <tobstar> keyne:seriously, i couldn't find the option
[12:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> did somebody get xgl working with KDE+nvidia here?
[12:16] <Healot> keyne: KDE Menu > System Settings... Select Sound & Multimedia
[12:16] <Healot> next select Audio CD
[12:17] <Healot> and click on MP3 Encoder tab
[12:18] <podgo> i have an ati sorry
[12:19] <podgo> who can help me for a usb keyb issue
[12:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the problem
[12:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[12:20] <podgo> on Breezy my usb keyb work well .....kernel 2.6.12-9....
[12:20] <podgo> but on dapper  since the update ...on kernel 2.6.15
[12:20] <podgo> my usb keyb doesnt work anymore !
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> podgo: try check if udev is enabled
[12:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> installed*
[12:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i did the upgrade, hotplug have been uninstalled, but udev, his replacement, didn't install
[12:23] <tobstar> keyne:ok, I've got files with a 128kb rate and I want to "downrate" them to 64kb. where is that option in kaudiocreator
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> podgo: futhermore try to change the usb and check the output of "dmsg" when you plug/unplug the key
[12:24] <Healot> apt-get isntall udev >> if udev isn;t installed
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> at least you know if it has been revealed
[12:24] <podgo> ....i restart on the bad kernel ..to try it
[12:25] <febdesk> what happened to hotplug ?
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it became obsolete
[12:25] <febdesk> particularly /etc/hotplug
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and it have been replaced by hotplug
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> by udev*
[12:25] <Healot> popularity-contest
[12:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> haha, pop-contest? didn't know about that :)
[12:26] <febdesk> and the little "scripts" that went into /etc/hotplug go into /etc/udev ?
[12:26] <visik7> usplash conflicts with nvidia restricted driver on my 7400
[12:26] <visik7> :)
[12:26] <podgo> udev is still installed
[12:26] <podgo> on my computer
[12:27] <podgo> so it's not the solution .../:
[12:27] <podgo> poor usb keyb:
[12:27] <scorpion007> podgo: have you got a usb mouse too?
[12:27] <podgo> yes i have a usb mouse
[12:27] <scorpion007> does it work?
[12:27] <podgo> and it works wall :p
[12:27] <podgo> well:p
[12:28] <podgo> so amazing this  dapper update
[12:29] <scorpion007> unplug and plug back your keyboard then run 'dmesg' in a console
[12:30] <VincentMX> yo
[12:30] <scorpion007> does the event get detected by the system?
[12:34] <podgo> i ll give you the dmesg just one second
[12:37] <ddh> #ubuntu-de
[12:39] <podgo> http://podgo.free.fr/dmesgkeyb
[12:40] <podgo> if anyone want to help me ?!
[12:41] <uniq> podgo: what's the problem?
[12:41] <Healot> the keyboard is there
[12:41] <podgo> but it doesn't work ....so why !
[12:41] <podgo> in X and in console mode
[12:41] <podgo> and still working when i boot on the old kernel
[12:41] <podgo> :/
[12:42] <Healot> you use USB-PS/2 converter?
[12:42] <Healot> take that of and plug it into a USB port
[12:43] <MadMerC> hi can anyone tell me how to start dekorator ??
[12:43] <podgo> my keyb is on the ps2 interface i use a converter to make it work on my laptop...which can offers only usb port :
[12:44] <Healot> try a real USB keyboard perhaps
[12:45] <uniq> podgo: you said it works on the old kernel?
[12:45] <podgo> yes
[12:45] <podgo> it works !
[12:45] <uniq> on the new kernel too?
[12:45] <MadMerC> im trying to install a theme called underworld evolution but when i put it in with kcontrol and the theme manager in there it just locks the kcontrol up and when i restart x only part of the theme is working can anyone help ??
[12:46] <podgo> no ! ...on the new kernel pbmes !
[12:46] <podgo> i use the new kernel for my sound card....
[12:46] <podgo> but no usb keyb is not a good deal
[12:47] <uniq> ok. only works on the old kernel. that's a regression. not good
[12:47] <VincentMX> why can't i burn mp3?
[12:47] <MadMerC> !themes
[12:47] <Healot> VincentMX: as CD Audio? or as regular file?
[12:47] <VincentMX> CD Audio
[12:48] <Healot> !mp3
[12:48] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:48] <Healot> btw
[12:48] <VincentMX> thnx
[12:50] <Healot> burn it as file, rtfm
[12:50] <uniq> podgo: could it be related to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/36119
[12:51] <podgo> when i unplug and plug it doesn't work  !:/
[12:54] <juanfe> hello all
[12:55] <uniq> podgo: is the 'usbkbd' module loaded? you can check with 'sudo lsmod|grep -i usbkbd'
[12:55] <uniq> hi juanfe.
[12:55] <podgo> also done ...not work :p that was my first trying ...
[12:56] <juanfe> anyone knows how to change kernel version from i386 to i686. By default has been installed i386 kernel
[12:56] <uniq> podgo: is it loaded?
[12:56] <podgo> yes
[12:56] <podgo> i load it myself
[12:56] <podgo> try to recompile or apt-cache seach kernel i686 the install the great one
[12:56] <uniq> podgo: ok, remove it and reload it: 'sudo rmmod usbkbd;sudo modprobe usbkbd'
[12:57] <uniq> juanfe: from konsole run this command: 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'
[12:57] <juanfe> podgo: but whats the diference between this two versions?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> juanfe: 686 is optimised for your kernel
[12:58] <podgo> optimisation
[12:58] <podgo> so if u ahve an amd cpu try k7
[12:58] <juanfe> thanks
[12:59] <juanfe> I'm going to do that. Chao
[12:59] <podgo> k bye
[12:59] <podgo> me i try to install a new kernel lol
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> so if i have amd, i need to install linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7?
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and it's faster than the 386?
[01:02] <podgo> yes
[01:02] <podgo> some routine are faster
[01:03] <MetaMorfoziS> has it any possible warning?
[01:04] <podgo> no
[01:04] <podgo> ...argh still not working keyb :d
[01:04] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:04] <MetaMorfoziS> after i installed it's shown in grub?
[01:04] <podgo> yes
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> cool
[01:19] <cox377> Hey all
[01:20] <ArmedGeek> cox377: morning
[01:20] <umberleigh> does anyone know if it's possible to get totem to stop kscreensaver, so that kscreensaver doesn't activate whilst totem is playing a movie?
[01:22] <podgo> bye*
[01:25] <Adam_eM> hi there
[01:25] <cox377> Does anyone share network drives/folders over a network from kubuntu?
[01:26] <Adam_eM> i've installed kubuntu grub splash images package, and when i am trying to use another than default crystal, it has reversed colours
[01:38] <CaptainMorgan> does Matlab run on LInux or iis there a similar app?
[01:40] <ArmedGeek> CaptainMorgan: http://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/requirements.html
[01:42] <smanen> can anyone tell me the installation path of konqueror?
[01:42] <smanen> i tried dpkg -L konqueror
[01:42] <apol> smanen: its /usr
[01:43] <apol> smanen: i can't use private
[01:44] <smanen> ok sorry
[01:44] <apol> you don't need the konqi's path for installing flash
[01:44] <smanen> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[01:44] <smanen> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/share/apps/konqueror/
[01:44] <apol> hmm
[01:45] <smanen> maybe it can't be installed on konq
[01:45] <apol> that's ok
[01:45] <smanen> just on these 3
[01:45] <apol> you'd better install it across apt
[01:45] <smanen> how can i know the name of the package in apt?
[01:45] <apol> aptitude search flash
[01:46] <apol> you need to have multiverse in the sources BTW
[01:46] <smanen> i'm quite new
[01:46] <smanen> what does it mean?
[01:47] <apol> !multiverse
[01:47] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:48] <apol> it's for being able to install privative packages
[01:48] <smanen> ah
[01:48] <smanen> i understand now
[01:48] <smanen> thx a lot
[01:48] <smanen> ^^
[01:48] <apol> :)
[01:48] <cox377> does anyone here share drives from their kubuntu machine?
[01:49] <apol> cox377: do you mean in SMB?
[01:49] <cox377> yeh
[01:49] <apol> you can use smb4k i think
[01:49] <cox377> how do u go about that?
[01:49] <cox377> i've installed samba
[01:49] <cox377> i've tried adding a folder
[01:50] <cox377> but when ever i try and connect to that drive from another drive it asks me for a user name and password
[01:50] <apol> it might be the username an password
[01:50] <cox377> yeh but i have no idea what it is
[01:50] <Kmirno> yes it might ...
[01:50] <cox377> i've tried everything
[01:52] <CaptainMorgan> thanks ArmedGeek any similar apps available with Linux tho?
[02:01] <darich> hey all
[02:01] <darich> just installed Kubuntu alongside Ubuntu
[02:01] <darich> quite impressed so far
[02:02] <darich> different to Gnome
[02:02] <tommy> I bet...
[02:02] <darich> runs Amarok niiiice tho
[02:03] <darich> the blueness is kinda suprising
[02:03] <darich> more like windows
[02:04] <darich> well the best bits of windows
[02:04] <cox377> seriously, someone must be sharing drives?
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> Kubuntu is different than Gnome!?
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> omgosh
[02:07] <darich> heh
[02:07] <darich> yah
[02:07] <darich> sure is purty
[02:08] <cox377> does anyone in here know about samba?
[02:08] <darich> ;)
[02:08] <uniq> cox377: yes i do.
[02:08] <cox377> uniq: hello mate, can i run through a few things please because i'm getting no where
[02:09] <uniq> cox377: sure.
[02:09] <uniq> cox377: i'm looking after my kid, so i might just disappear on you. If she needs my attention.
[02:09] <cox377> to start with i'm trying to share a few drives within my kubuntu system to be views and written to
[02:09] <cox377> I've installed samba
[02:10] <cox377> i've shared the drives,
[02:10] <cox377> when i try and add the drives from a windows machine it asks me for a user name and password.. i dont have any clue what this U&P is and i've tried everyone that i've set up on this machine which is only one.. this account
[02:10] <uniq> ah. yes.
[02:11] <cox377> when i try and connect to that same drive from the same local kubuntu machine it also asks me for the U&P
[02:11] <l_r> direct rendering: No      <-- I have a matrox g400. accelaration seems to be unsupported. any idea?
[02:11] <uniq> first; you need to create the username as a account on the kubuntu machine.
[02:11] <cox377> do u mean the user name i use to log into this machine?
[02:11] <uniq> cox377: then, 'smbpasswd -a username'
[02:12] <cox377> in the terminal?
[02:12] <uniq> cox377: yes, you need to have a user on the kubuntu machine.
[02:12] <uniq> let's just do it with your user first, shall we?
[02:13] <cox377> yup, sounds good
[02:13] <cox377> right i;ve entered that into the temrinal
[02:13] <uniq> say you have username 'cox' and you use cox/secretpass when you logon to KDE.
[02:13] <cox377> and it's given me some options
[02:13] <uniq> now,open a konsole, and type 'sudo smbpasswd -a cox'
[02:13] <uniq> it will not ask for a password.
[02:13] <l_r> direct rendering: No      <-- I have a matrox g400. accelaration seems to be unsupported. any idea?
[02:14] <uniq> this is where you set the password to be used when accessing samba shares.
[02:15] <Tonio_> uniq: maybe you can gelp me
[02:15] <Tonio_> is there a way to have kontact or kmail to sit in the systray like konversation ?
[02:15] <cox377> uniq: done that, is there anything more i need to do mate?
[02:15] <defrysk> Tonio_, kmail yes
[02:16] <uniq> tonio_: hmm.. not that i know from the top of my head.
[02:16] <defrysk> its in the settings ofkmail
[02:16] <cox377> uniq: your a legend.. it worked
[02:16] <cox377> :                 (
[02:16] <cox377> :                      )
[02:17] <uniq> cox377: this is all that is needed to give your user access to the samba share. Now if you need to add more users, you'll need to add them in system settings -> users & groups first. (or with 'sudo adduser' in konsole). and then repeat the 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' in konsole to set the samba password.
[02:17] <defrysk> Tonio_, configure appearance systemtry tab
[02:17] <uniq> cox377: be aware that the samba password will expire after some time.
[02:17] <Tommy2k4> oo a new linux kernel?
[02:18] <Tonio_> uniq: great :)
[02:18] <Tonio_> defrysk: works, thanks :)
[02:18] <defrysk> Tonio_, great :)
[02:18] <Tonio_> sad it doesn't work with kontact....
[02:18] <uniq> defrysk: neat feature. I'll enable it too.
[02:18] <uniq> tonio_: thanks for the idea :)
[02:18] <defrysk> kmail rocks imho
[02:19] <cox377> uniq: thats brilliant, how long roughly does the password last? and secondly is there anyway to make these shares public to anyone on the network without having to add a password and user name?
[02:19] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:20] <Tonio_> great, seems to be working with kontact too, as long as the parameter is set in kmail ;)
[02:21] <uniq> cox377: you can add guest users. and map to gyests.
[02:22] <cox377> but u cant have it as a free to all drive?
[02:24] <cox377> basically i;m lookign to put a share drive that anyone can take/dump things onto
[02:26] <uniq> cox377: ok, yes, just hang on, have to fix a vserver for a customer.
[02:29] <cox377> :            )
[02:29] <cox377> cheers uniq
[02:34] <Trackilizer> To see hinden files on gnome one has to press "Ctrl + H", what do you have to do in KDE?
[02:35] <nico8481> Trackilizer: "view" menu > show hidden files
[02:35] <uniq> trackilizer: don't think there is a default shortcut for it: in konqueror go to settings -> configure shortcuts. search for 'show hidden' and set a shortcut.
[02:35] <Trackilizer> Ok, thanks guys.
[02:38] <Tommy2k4> is there any reason for a newbie like me to update to the new linux kernel
[02:38] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: as in, 2.6.16?  no
[02:38] <cox377> uniq: sorry i dont know if you answered but i had to restart
[02:40] <tuxcicles> Tommy2k4: depends on your processor
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> p3
[02:40] <BoD[] > Hello !
[02:40] <BoD[] > Hey... How does one install mp3 support under kubuntu?
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> !mp3
[02:40] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <tuxcicles> Tommy2k4: linux-i686 would probably be for you
[02:41] <BoD[] > oh thank you very much
[02:41] <Tommy2k4> should i upgrade tho
[02:42] <Hobbsee> !blah
[02:42] <ubotu> Hobbsee: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:42] <Frederick> folks one doub does that java install mentioned in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper allows me to actually create java apps?
[02:43] <Tommy2k4> Hobbsee, i thought the latest kernel was 2.6.17?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: er, it's going into edgy.  probably not worth it
[02:44] <Tommy2k4> k
[02:45] <Tommy2k4> any way to add right click context menus such as extract here for archives
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: they're already there
[02:45] <tuxcicles> Frederick: SDK version maybe
[02:45] <Tommy2k4> god damnit how could i not realise that
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: did you find it?
[02:46] <MidMark> hi to all
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> yep
[02:46] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> why does it take agessss to delete a file
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> the progress dialogue stays on 0% for ages
[02:46] <Frederick> tuxcicles: so I unsinstall my current sun-java5-jre?
[02:46] <BoD[] > hey.. I'm trying to install mp3 support, but I don't see the libxine-extracodecs package in Adept. What should I do?
[02:46] <MidMark> I have an unanswered question: with an Athlon64 which of these kernels is better apart amd64? i386, i686 or k7?
[02:47] <Frederick> BoD[] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <tuxcicles> Frederick: yea, don't think you need it, read up on sdk, cus I don't write java :(
[02:47] <Hobbsee> BoD[] : enable multiverse
[02:48] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[02:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:49] <MidMark> someone have an answer for me?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> MidMark: k7.  apt-cache show linux-image-k7
[02:50] <tuxcicles> MidMark: !easysource
[02:50] <BoD[] > thank you very much
[02:51] <MidMark> Hobbsee: ok thanx I know how to install k7 kernel just want to know the best 32 bit kernel for my processor
[02:51] <Frederick> folks I give ubuntu a big 10 for usability
[02:51] <MidMark> Hobbsee: why is always i386 installed by default?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> MidMark: er...if it's an amd64 you want the k7 one, if it's a celeron/p* one, use the 686
[02:52] <Hobbsee> MidMark: i'm not exactly sure...
[02:52] <pcfan> System tray icons are missing using compiz on kde
[02:52] <sponix> Frederick: you should, my wife hates computers, knows nothing about them -- And likes ubuntu/kubuntu because it just "works"
[02:52] <MidMark> pcfan: compiz under kde is very annoying
[02:52] <tuxcicles> MidMark: it handles most processors
[02:52] <uniq> cox377: ok,i'm back.
[02:53] <MidMark> tuxcicles: I know but a processor recnognize can be possible, then choose the right kernel
[02:53] <Tommy2k4> is there something like netlimiter for linux
[02:53] <pcfan> MidMark : yes, I know, but still, can I do something like starting compiz before kicker?
[02:53] <pcfan> and here is another question: how do I start compiz before kicker?
[02:53] <MidMark> pcfan: I've tried it and also with superkaramba it shows every theme like an apps opened
[02:54] <Hobbsee> MidMark: i agree with you, i think they have trouble with cd space if they include all the kernels on there though
[02:54] <MidMark> Hobbsee: used dvd ;)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> should be on there then - but they dont hvae a different installer for cd/dvd
[02:54] <pcfan> MidMark: I have no problems with compiz and karamba, just with the systray: if I restart the systray applet, all the icons are shown
[02:55] <MidMark> Hobbsee: exactly, they test only cd not dvd, I have also the language bug, no italian installed at all (dvd contains it)
[02:55] <Frederick> sponix: I come from gentoo I wouldn't say that is human friendly
[02:55] <MidMark> Hobbsee: this is not so nice
[02:55] <Hobbsee> actually, they do test both cd and dvd
[02:55] <Hobbsee> that italian bit is a bug though
[02:56] <MidMark> Hobbsee: yes of course, but dvd is tested less than cd for me, also english is always tested more when languages other than en are very important
[02:56] <sponix> I've been using *nix flavors since 1996, and can't say I'd put my wife, uncle, and mother on Linux back then
[02:57] <uniq> cox377: i recommend reading http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm there's a section for access free to all or something. Will probably be faster than me telling you what to do :)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> MidMark: of course.  that's why we need people who speak other languages as our testers too...
[02:57] <MidMark> Hobbsee: the problem is I have reported the bug 2 or 3 weeks before the release and it was ignored
[02:58] <cox377> uniq: i'm extremely greatful for your help,
[02:58] <sponix> love how they made the installer a livecd now
[02:58] <sponix> thats a great idea
[02:58] <Hobbsee> MidMark: what did you file it under?  do you have the bug number?
[02:59] <pcfan> Does someone know a program that can be instead of the systray applet in kde panels ?
[02:59] <yanis> apt-get give me this output:E: The package libgnome2-vfs-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! . how can I fix it?
[02:59] <uniq> cox377: happy to be helpful :)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> MidMark: and i doubt it was ignored, unless it was in the wrong place - it may have been delayed, or something, but not ignored
[03:00] <Hobbsee> yanis: er...can you pastebin the entire message please?  or is that all of use?
[03:00] <uniq> yanis: did you try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgnome2-vfs-perl' in konsole?
[03:00] <cox377> just one more things while i am here, does anyone know how to change the defaul mail client from kmail to thunderbird, E.G when i right click on something and go send as mail
[03:00] <Hobbsee> cox377: system settings, kde components
[03:00] <yanis> Hobbsee: that's all. it gives the same message when trying to do anything in apt-get
[03:01] <MidMark> Hobbsee: still needs info, reported on april!!!
[03:01] <MidMark> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/39483
[03:01] <Hobbsee> yanis: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:01] <yanis> uniq: I get the same message
[03:02] <sponix> Frederick: and being able to install Oracle on ubuntu easily adds to the fun also
[03:02] <Hobbsee> MidMark: you left it at needs info - if it needs info, you give the info, and change it back to whatever it was before
[03:02] <pcfan> Does someone know a program that can be used instead of the kicker systray ?
[03:02] <yanis> hah,Hobbsee this command is going to reconfigure the whole system?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> MidMark: they would have assumed that you'd not gone back to the bug at all
[03:03] <Hobbsee> *changes status on it*
[03:03] <Hobbsee> yanis: it might be sudo dpkg --configure -a that i mean
[03:03] <MidMark> Hobbsee: don't know it if none tell me this!
[03:03] <Hobbsee> the one that i wanted doesnt
[03:03] <Frederick> sponix: ubuntu is becomming a real enterprise distro
[03:03] <Hobbsee> MidMark: true
[03:03] <MidMark> Hobbsee: thanx now I'll do it
[03:03] <Hobbsee> MidMark: i just changed it for you
[03:04] <cox377> hobbsee: cheers for that, changed both default browser and mail client, restarted KDE and firefox has worked but not thunderbird
[03:04] <Hobbsee> cox377: define "not worked"
[03:04] <MidMark> ok
[03:04] <Hobbsee> MidMark: have a look at it to see what was different
[03:05] <pcfan> Does someone know how can I lunch the systray applet from command line ?
[03:05] <MidMark> Hobbsee: seen your comment
[03:05] <cox377> hobbsee: sorry it just tried opening kmail still
[03:05] <Hobbsee> MidMark: did you see the status change?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> pcfan: er, type kicker?
[03:06] <MidMark> Hobbsee: yes, but can I put confirmed to my bugs? I don't think so
[03:06] <Hobbsee> cox377: hmmm...did you type thunderbird or mozilla-thunderbird in there, and did it get selected as a custom app, not just left at the default?  havent played with it in a while
[03:06] <pcfan> Not this way Hobbsee, just the applet itself.... I need it to be started after compiz
[03:06] <Hobbsee> MidMark: no you cant
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> im trying to install kdevmon but it says i need kdelibs4 :s
[03:06] <sponix> Frederick: enterprise support is nice, as long as they stick with the goal to make ubuntu the most widely spread (free), and easiest to use -- I'm happy
[03:06] <Hobbsee> pcfan: oh ok
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: install kdelibs4-dev
[03:07] <MidMark> Hobbsee: exactly so the next time I have to put what? Unconfirmed?
[03:07] <cox377> hobbsee: i selected it from the application list
[03:07] <Tommy2k4> kdelibs4-dev is already the newest version.
[03:07] <Hobbsee> MidMark: yeah, change it to unconfirmed
[03:07] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: install kdelibs4?
[03:08] <Tommy2k4> Package kdelibs4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:08] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: install kdelibs4c2a
[03:08] <Tommy2k4> it says i have newest version
[03:08] <Hobbsee> forgot about that - knew there was something suss about that
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !info kdevmod
[03:08] <cox377> uniq: i dont suppose it would be at all poss to show me the link again please as link a moron when i restarted KDE i forgot to book mark first
[03:08] <Hobbsee> !info kdevmon dapper
[03:09] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: where are you installing kdevmon from
[03:09] <uniq> cox377: i recommend reading http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm there's a section for access free to all or something. Will probably be faster than me telling you what to do :)
[03:09] <uniq> cox377: there you go :)
[03:09] <Tommy2k4> http://debian.creativa.cl/debian/woody/kdevmon/Packages
[03:09] <cox377> : )
[03:09] <ru> lo all
[03:09] <Tommy2k4> unless you know another gui app that can do it
[03:10] <ru> On my box I have to actually type "apache2" to run apache2, how would I make it start on boot?
[03:10] <ru> I know I can edit my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file, but thats a bit dirty isnt it?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: you shouldnt be installing from woody repositories, or other debian repositories.  particularly with woody being so old in comparison to ubuntu
[03:10] <Tommy2k4> copy the .desktop to ~/kde/Autorun
[03:10] <Tommy2k4> i didnt even know what woody was lol
[03:10] <uniq> ru: did you install it from the repositories?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: it's a really old debian release, i think
[03:11] <Tommy2k4> k
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: grab the source of kdevmon
[03:11] <ru> uniq, yes I used apt-get i believe
[03:11] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdevmon
[03:12] <ru> uniq, but i think i messed it up a little cos i installed apache & apache2 and then removed apache, if i remember correctly
[03:12] <uniq> ru: then edit /etc/default/apache2 and set NO_START=0
[03:12] <ru> cool
[03:12] <ru> thanks
[03:13] <uniq> you're welcome.
[03:15] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: seen knetload?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12351&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=2
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> Hobbsee, it doesn't look like it can limit specific apps?
[03:18] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: i've got no idea, but according to one of those comments, kdevmon segfaults on 2.6.x kernels, which is probably why it's not in later debian versions
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> oh well ill try installing it anyway
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:21] <Hobbsee> !kdeheaders
[03:21] <sponix> k3b kicks ass
[03:21] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[03:22] <BoD[] > hey
[03:22] <uniq> tommy2k4: get kdelibs4-dev
[03:23] <BoD[] > I have an ati aiw radeon 8500 dv
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> already have newsest version
[03:23] <ru> Whenever my Kde starts it launches 2 KFTP's - I can
[03:23] <ru> I can't figure out why*
[03:23] <BoD[] > and for some reason the fglrx driver doesn't seem to work
[03:24] <uniq> ru: you probably had them open once when you logged out or something.
[03:24] <uniq> ru: if you close them logout,and re-login they should be gone.
[03:24] <cox377> is there a command that could be used which scans a network for clients by IP or something of sorts?
[03:25] <ru> uniq: Thats what I thought, I have tried closing them and restarting KDE - but they just come back lol
[03:27] <ru> whats this auto start path: /home/ru/.kde/Autostart/
[03:27] <ru> I see there is a .directory file in there, but I cant really make much sense of it?
[03:28] <jarlath> I cant play games fullscreen, the image seems to overlap itself. I've googled and I think I just need to tell xorg.conf to support that particular resolution at  my color depth. I thought I edited my xorg.conf properly but the situation is still the same. Can anyone help?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> ru: yes, just stick links to any programs you want to run in there
[03:30] <Tommy2k4> well i found something called trickle but i think its cli only and cant figure out how to use it
[03:31] <uniq> ru: the .directory doesn't start your kftps.
[03:31] <jarlath> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716417
[03:33] <uniq> tommy2k4: what do you need? a bandwidth shaper?
[03:33] <Aapzak> goodday
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> yes
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> preferably with a gui
[03:34] <uniq> tommy2k4: i can recommend wondershaper, no gui but very simple and easy to use.
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> and that i can turn it on and off without having to reopen the app which i think trickle does
[03:35] <Aapzak> Does anyone inhere if there is an easy way to generate a kde popup/notifier with a text I provide?
[03:35] <Aapzak> inhere know :)
[03:36] <jarlath> Aapzak, this months Tux magazine has an article on that!
[03:37] <Aapzak> brilliant
[03:37] <Tommy2k4> is that possible uniq ?
[03:38] <ru> uniq: Hmm i didnt think so - what does it do?
[03:39] <uniq> tommy2k4: yes. it works like this: 'wondershaper eth1 500 100' sets down speed on eth1 to 500k and up speed to 100k.
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> i only need it to limit specific apps
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> and only at certain times without having to restart the app
[03:40] <uniq> tommy2k4: ahh.. then wondershaper isn't for you.
[03:40] <Tommy2k4> maybe its not possible due to the way linux is? i dunno
[03:41] <uniq> tommy2k4: everything is possible due to the way linux is.
[03:41] <Tommy2k4> lol
[03:41] <Tommy2k4> i think netlimiter hooks into the winsock dll so that all traffic goes through netlimiter and i can tick a box whether to limit a certain app or not
[03:42] <Aapzak> jarlath: thanks, I'll look it up, I assume its an online magazine?
[03:42] <MAW_away> Someone here who know smth about lmms?
[03:42] <uniq> maw_away: i know it's a music making app, that's about it :)
[03:42] <MAW_away> Ooookay... I think that is not enough ;)
[03:43] <MAW_away> I have probs compiling it wiht vst
[03:43] <uniq> ru: it tells KDE that it's the Autostart dir. basically.
[03:43] <MAW_away> because of missing vst headers...
[03:43] <MAW_away> But the Location where I should get them gave me an 404 error.
[03:43] <MAW_away> :)
[03:43] <uniq> maw_away: what is vst?
[03:44] <MAW_away> lol
[03:44] <MAW_away> Okay toooooo less knowledge to helpo me :)
[03:44] <MAW_away> moment
[03:44] <uniq> maw_away: can't you use the packages provided in the repositories?
[03:44] <MAW_away> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology
[03:45] <MAW_away> I could, but those are OLD and without vst
[03:46] <MAW_away> compiling without vst works fine
[03:47] <uniq> you need libvst then i guess.
[03:47] <ru> uniq: Cool - thanks again
[03:48] <TechHut> hi everyone
[03:48] <MAW_away> uniq: thanks. But you do not have enough knowledge about that stuff to help me here... but thanks for you heloing me
[03:49] <TechHut> what is your problem?
[03:49] <TechHut> i might be able to help
[03:49] <uniq> maw_away: i bet i have enought knowledge to help you, do you want me to make packages for you too? :)
[03:49] <MAW_away> TechHut: with lmms?
[03:49] <TechHut> I don't think I can with lmms
[03:50] <MAW_away> Ah. K thx
[03:50] <TechHut> to be honest, I don't know what it even is
[03:50] <TechHut> sorry
[03:51] <uniq> maw_away: i'll have a look later. Now it's dinner.
[03:51] <MAW_away> uniq: Please, I do not want to hit on you. But I garantee you there is no libvst (funny idea) in any respositorie... Yeah, If you find out somethin, let me know!
[03:53] <sangers> test
[03:56] <cox377> haha just installed wine
[03:56] <cox377> amazing
[04:15] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[04:16] <uniq> maw_away: here you go: http://wiki.mindrules.net/doku.php?id=documentation:installation
[04:19] <chess> anybody have solution for error no c compiler for path$
[04:19] <uniq> chess: install the 'build-essential'  package.
[04:20] <heinkel_111> can someone help me with an fstab question?
[04:20] <uniq> heinkel_111: yes.
[04:20] <heinkel_111> i have problem automounting my cdrom and dvd
[04:20] <slow-motion> bye
[04:20] <uniq> heinkel_111: ok. please paste the contents of /etc/fstab to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:20] <uniq> bye slow-motion.
[04:21] <chess> uniq: apt-get install build-essential?
[04:21] <MAW_away> uniq: NO, realy?!
[04:21] <uniq> chess: yes.
[04:21] <heinkel_111> uniq: yes i was just coming to that..on second :)
[04:21] <MAW_away> Have you tried the links to Steinbergs VST SDK
[04:21] <uniq> maw_away: no, that's your job :)
[04:21] <Frederick> do I need anything extran than libk3b2-mp3 to listen mp3?
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <MAW_away> I have probs compiling it wiht vst
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <uniq> ru: it tells KDE that it's the Autostart dir. basically.
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <MAW_away> because of missing vst headers...
[04:22] <MAW_away> [2006-06-18 15:43]  <MAW_away> But the Location where I should get them gave me an 404 error.
[04:22] <jpatrick> Frederick: No, that's for burning mp3s
[04:22] <Frederick> jpatrick: :p what do I need to listen them?
[04:22] <MAW_away> Reading could be an advantage
[04:22] <chess> uniq: says E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[04:22] <uniq> maw_away: ok. i don't remember that detailed. sorry.
[04:23] <MAW_away> ...
[04:23] <jpatrick> !mp3
[04:23] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <jpatrick> Frederick: ^
[04:23] <MAW_away> !lmms
[04:23] <ubotu> MAW_away: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:23] <MAW_away> :)
[04:23] <Frederick> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[04:23] <Flosoft> hey
[04:23] <heinkel_111> uniq: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716482 ... is it correct that fielsystem type for /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd should be udf,iso9660
[04:23] <heinkel_111> ?
[04:24] <Flosoft> is it possible to synch accounts with KDE (Linux)
[04:24] <Flosoft> Like a Domain Server and a Client?
[04:24] <jpatrick> Frederick: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[04:24] <uniq> heinkel_111: if you want cd and dvd to be automounted remove the lines from fstab.
[04:24] <heinkel_111> completely?
[04:24] <heinkel_111> ok..i will try it!
[04:24] <Flosoft> like synch my home folder
[04:24] <Flosoft> ?
[04:24] <uniq> heinkel_111: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716483
[04:25] <heinkel_111> ok
[04:25] <Frederick> thanks
[04:25] <heinkel_111> uniq: thank you...proceeding to test lab!
[04:26] <Slappy> hi all
[04:26] <jpatrick> Frederick: no prob
[04:27] <uniq> maw_away: ok, here are the files: http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/vstserver-0.3.1.tar.bz2
[04:28] <uniq> maw_away: they are in vstserver-0.3.1/include/vst/
[04:30] <cox377> haha.. who here knows about the emulator wine ;         )
[04:31] <MAW_away> uniq: Looks not bad until know....
[04:31] <MAW_away> where do you get this information?
[04:32] <cox377> does anyone know the default directory that wine installs to
[04:33] <ru> Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[04:34] <ru> I am getting that error in apache
[04:34] <ru> I checked my /etc/apache2/modules.conf and added rewrite there
[04:34] <ru> and restarted apache, but nothing
[04:34] <heinkel_111> uniq: I still have problems
[04:34] <cox377> found it
[04:35] <heinkel_111> uniq: I updated the fstab, then did check /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd was not mounted
[04:35] <dr_willis> you did mount the drives after editing the fstab?
[04:35] <heinkel_111> then did mount -a to put the new fstab into use
[04:35] <dr_willis> or rebooted... or ran mount -a ?
[04:35] <Tommy2k4> amarok crashed yet again :(
[04:35] <dr_willis> ok. heh.
[04:35] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: did my two lines answer your question? ;)
[04:36] <dr_willis> next tiem be quicker about it! :P
[04:36] <heinkel_111> I am slow :(
[04:36] <dr_willis> of course i dont know what the original propblem is :P
[04:36] <heinkel_111> unable to mount my cds and dvds :(
[04:36] <dr_willis> right now MY ubuntu system is failing to boot right.. not sure if it was due to last nioghts updates or not
[04:36] <dr_willis> Music cds?
[04:37] <heinkel_111> yes
[04:37] <dr_willis> hmm you dont mount music cd's
[04:37] <heinkel_111> it worked perfectly in breezy
[04:37] <Frederick> folks isnt there a url for nvidia guide?
[04:37] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:37] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:37] <heinkel_111> but now I got dapper there is a problem
[04:37] <Tommy2k4> you mount the drive not the actual cd
[04:38] <dr_willis> Im not sure why you would want to mount a music cd
[04:38] <Tommy2k4> i think?
[04:38] <dr_willis> lets get to the ROOT of the problem.
[04:38] <dr_willis> :P
[04:38] <dr_willis> you are trying to play a music cd?
[04:38] <heinkel_111> Tommy2k4: I was advised not to have entries for hdd and hdc (the DVD and CDRW drive) in my /etc/fstab
[04:38] <heinkel_111> yes I am
[04:39] <heinkel_111> or to be more precise
[04:39] <heinkel_111> dr: willis
[04:39] <dr_willis> the music cdrom is /dev/hdc  and the dvd drive is /dev/dvd eh?
[04:39] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: to access any file on those bloody drives is the problem
[04:39] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: it is other way round
[04:39] <dr_willis> heinkel_111,  well  mounting a data drive - is one thing.. :P playing music is another
[04:40] <dr_willis> you cant manually mount data disks either?
[04:40] <kbuntunewb> hey all!
[04:40] <heinkel_111> isn't it a prerequisiste I can at least see the files before playing?
[04:40] <dr_willis> heinkel_111,  NO.
[04:40] <dr_willis> not in the least
[04:41] <dr_willis> the ability to see the 'music' files on a music cd. is a little bit of a programing/software gimmic.
[04:41] <heinkel_111> ok
[04:41] <dr_willis> to play a music cd.. you should be able to tell the cd player the exact location of the cdrom drive   and it should be able to play them without the drive being mounted
[04:42] <heinkel_111> but it doesn't really help if the gimmick doesnot work :P
[04:42] <uniq>    heinkel_111 you'll need to restart dbus. Reboot is probably the easiest way to get it all going.
[04:42] <dr_willis> the point is - we are tryign to make.. you dont have to mount music cd's
[04:42] <uniq> that's correct.
[04:42] <heinkel_111> yes but what if the same drive gets loaded with a data disk?
[04:43] <heinkel_111> it is nice to be a little versatile :P
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[04:43] <uniq> then you should have a window popup and ask you what to do.
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> just tried it there and it worked fine
[04:43] <kbuntunewb> hey guys... how do i install/compile a software in kubuntu? (bare with my terminology, i'm new to this)
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> depends on the extension of the file you downloaded
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> or you can apt-get install appname
[04:44] <uniq> kbuntunewb: kmenu - system - adept, with this application you can install other programs.
[04:44] <MAW_away> uniq: Until now it runs well... Where did you get the information to taht link? I was searching whole yesterday
[04:44] <uniq> maw_away: i searched :)
[04:44] <MAW_away> I do also ...
[04:45] <kbuntunewb> i was trying to install or get firefox to work... and it seems like its "installed" already..?
[04:45] <MAW_away> But I hav not asked what did you do, I asked where did you get that information!?
[04:45] <kbuntunewb> but i couldn't find or get execute the app
[04:45] <Tommy2k4> what happens when typing firefox in konsole
[04:45] <uniq> maw_away: http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/toots/vst-plugins/ says it's included in the vstserver archive.
[04:46] <uniq> tommy2k4: firefox should start
[04:46] <Tommy2k4> was asking kbuntunewb
[04:46] <kbuntunewb> comman not found
[04:46] <uniq> tommy2k4: sorry. :)
[04:46] <Tommy2k4> np
[04:47] <MAW_away> Reading could be an advantage
[04:47] <MAW_away> thx a lot
[04:47] <kbuntunewb> bash: firefox: command not found
[04:48] <Tommy2k4> what happens when you sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:48] <uniq> maw_away: good luck with music production :)
[04:49] <kbuntunewb> you mean like type this "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole?  it tells me this "
[04:49] <kbuntunewb> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                           able)
[04:49] <kbuntunewb> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                           ess using it?
[04:49] <Tommy2k4> do you have adept open
[04:50] <kbuntunewb> ohh.. adept was open :)
[04:50] <Raven301> What is the command to scan for usb devices ??? usb sticks
[04:50] <visik7> why usplash doesn't start from the beginning of the shutdown ?
[04:51] <MAW_away> uniq: I will give my very best
[04:51] <kbuntunewb> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:51] <visik7> impossible
[04:52] <visik7> kbuntunewb: firefox is in main
[04:52] <visik7> you have messed up your sources.list
[04:52] <dr_willis> !infio firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dr_willis
[04:52] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7720 kB, Installed size: 22868 kB
[04:52] <visik7> optional ?
[04:52] <dr_willis> i didet think firefox was installed by default in kubuntu
[04:52] <visik7> yes ok optional for kubuntu
[04:52] <Tommy2k4> its not
[04:52] <visik7> but in main
[04:53] <Tommy2k4> kbuntunewb, upload your sources.list to pastebin
[04:53] <Tommy2k4> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:53] <kbuntunewb> ahhh.. .so from what i have read... kubuntu is like the stripped version of ubuntu?
[04:53] <visik7> so if the sources.list is the one installed by default it is installable
[04:53] <heinkel_111> hmm i am back
[04:53] <FisherP> !kuickshow
[04:53] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FisherP
[04:53] <Tommy2k4> !sources
[04:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[04:53] <visik7> kbuntunewb: isn't a stipped version
[04:53] <heinkel_111> but it sems as if i lost control of my CDROM drive :(
[04:53] <visik7> kbuntunewb: is a ubuntu with kde and without gnome
[04:54] <FisherP> visik7, yes, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde not gnome
[04:54] <visik7> FisherP  I know
[04:54] <visik7> FisherP: I'm telling it to kbuntunewb
[04:55] <FisherP> Does anybody know what happend to kuickshow??
[04:55] <FisherP> visik7 sorry
[04:55] <kbuntunewb> :)
[04:55] <kbuntunewb> Package firefox has no installation candidate
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> mozilla-firefox
[04:56] <kbuntunewb> sooooooooo   how do i go about installing my FIRST (kodak moment) ever software in kubuntu
[04:56] <dr_willis> apt-cache search firefox
[04:56] <miguel_> I have no permission to acces hda1, who can help me with that?
[04:57] <FisherP> kbuntunewb i would use adept, it's good for searching etc
[04:57] <dr_willis> and the type of hard drive/file system is what miguel_ ?
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> kbuntunewb: not firefox, mozilla-firefox
[04:57] <heinkel_111> dr_willis: and uniq: help! I cannot even eject my music cd from the cdrom player anymore :-(
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:57] <miguel_> ntfs
[04:57] <dr_willis> heinkel_111,  if a program is accessing the drive. it will be locked.
[04:57] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[04:57] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:57] <dr_willis> !winfstab
[04:57] <ubotu> an NTFS partition in fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,umask=0222 0 0
[04:58] <miguel_> yes
[04:58] <uniq> heinkel_111: try 'sudo eject'
[04:58] <miguel_> but only root have permission to access
[04:58] <dr_willis> Hmm.. someone chang3ed the umask=000 to 0222
[04:59] <dr_willis> have the user mount the drive. Thats what the user option does
[04:59] <dr_willis> dont auto mount the drives
[04:59] <heinkel_111> uniq: thank you!
[05:00] <heinkel_111> uniq: the stadium arcadium just got freed from the jaws of my drive :-)
[05:00] <uniq> :)
[05:01] <heinkel_111> now back to original problem..how to get the disks to show up properly
[05:01] <heinkel_111> when i had breezy i just inserted the cds and lots of met-directories for ogg mp3 and wav file types popped up instantly
[05:01] <heinkel_111> a nice feature, I want it back!
[05:02] <nico8481> heinkel_111: just type "audiocd:/" in konqueror's location bar
[05:02] <nico8481> or right-click on the CD icon then "open"
[05:03] <CaBlGuY> don't listen to the DR..  he's JUST a Dr..   :p
[05:03] <heinkel_111> nico8481: not able to read audiocd :-( no cdrom icon :-(
[05:03] <CaBlGuY> I've got my slave drive auto mounted and have no problems...
[05:03] <nico8481> heinkel_111: in the system menu (just next to the K one) > storage media
[05:04] <dr_willis> i imsgine theres some packages you install that caused those extras to show up
[05:04] <uniq> heinkel_111: did you remove the lines as i told you to, and restart?
[05:04] <heinkel_111> nico8481: it is not there
[05:04] <dr_willis> of course my UBUNTU install just took a nose dive this morning.. not sure whats going on.
[05:04] <heinkel_111> uniq: yes
[05:04] <uniq> heinkel_111: and it didn't work?
[05:04] <TechHut> hmm
[05:04] <TechHut> Dr willis
[05:04] <TechHut> how do?
[05:04] <TechHut> so*
[05:05] <heinkel_111> uniq: does not look like it :(
[05:05] <_david> Does anybody know what happend to kuickshow??
[05:06] <dr_willis> _david,  proberly got decided it wasent that handy
[05:06] <uniq> _david: it's been removed, it was old and unmaintained, and depended on the unmaintained imlib. So it's beeing replaced by gwenview.
[05:06] <heinkel_111> I am gonna try putting them back and strat over again
[05:06] <heinkel_111> start
[05:06] <uniq> heinkel_111: if you want automounting to work you should not put them back. Automounting will ignore the devices when they are in /etc/fstab.
[05:07] <heinkel_111> uniq: you are probably right
[05:07] <heinkel_111> uniq: but I might have asked thw wrong question :S this does not work!
[05:08] <uniq> heinkel_111: not for any cds? or just audiocds?
[05:08] <_david> uniq, dr_willis, I thought it was quite handy.. it was small, quick and did the trick. I guess i'l learn gwenview then thanks
[05:08] <heinkel_111> uniq: trying data cd in dvd drive now
[05:08] <dr_willis> _david,  for all we know it changed names. :P
[05:09] <heinkel_111> uniq: it is not recognised
[05:09] <uniq> heinkel_111: nothing happens?
[05:09] <heinkel_111> my ssytem does not even note there is a disk in there :(
[05:09] <heinkel_111> system...argh
[05:10] <_david> dr_willis, ty again... time to go to bed
[05:11] <Sebasti> Hi
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> !xmms skins
[05:11] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> !xmms
[05:11] <ubotu> I guess xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[05:12] <uniq> heinkel_111: ok, go to system settings -> kde components -> service manager - check that KDE Media Manager is enabled.
[05:12] <Sebasti> I would use the Ubuntu channel,  but I am still banned for flooding it :d  anyway.  I installed loads of games yesterday and I do not have sound for loads of them.  why is that?
[05:12] <Sebasti> that's with Gnome  maybe if I use KDE I will get sound,  but I don't know
[05:12] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: when did you flood?
[05:12] <dr_willis> i would guess alsa/odd/esd conflicts
[05:12] <heinkel_111> uniq: will do
[05:12] <uniq> sebasti: can you name some of the games you don't have sound in?
[05:13] <Sebasti> Frozen Bubble for example
[05:13] <heinkel_111> uniq: KDE media manager is up and running confirmed
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: it's probably in your best interests to answer me...when did you flood, and do you plan to do it again?
[05:13] <Sebasti> a few days or a week or so ago now when I flooded Ubuntu channel, but still banned.  altough I had done it more than once :D
[05:13] <uniq> heinkel_111: hmm.. i'm starting to run out of ideas..
[05:14] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: if it's more than 3 lines, use a pastebin.  in fact, if it's more than 2 lines, use a pastebin.  pastes are just plain annoying, okay?  especially in busy channels.
[05:14] <Sebasti> are you a mod Hobbsee with the power to unban me?  I assume so.  uhmmmmm well got the help I wanted.  then instead of just leaving decided to flood
[05:14] <heinkel_111> uniq: thanks alot anyway...very nice of you to try :)
[05:14] <Hobbsee> what did you flood?
[05:14] <Sebasti> no  it was real flooding with numbers or letters junk
[05:14] <heinkel_111> and now yes i should go deeper into googlingg i guess
[05:14] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: why'd you do it?
[05:14] <dr_willis> heh  - ya got hacked and forced to flood?
[05:15] <Sebasti> to get booted :d
[05:15] <Sebasti> ?
[05:15] <dr_willis> cat on the keyboard excuse!
[05:15] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: you idiot.  why did you want to bother?
[05:15] <Sebasti> ,because I was bored?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: they dont paste like that.
[05:15] <thompa> just wondering will dist-upgrade give me kde 3.5.3?
[05:15] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: it's usually advisable to act your age, you know.
[05:16] <dr_willis> Hobbsee,  a big cat - swatting at a mouse. :P on the keyboard
[05:16] <Hobbsee> !tell thompa about kde3.5.3
[05:16] <Sebasti> anyway wormtux I got sound in that game,  but like all the other ones I have tryed so far no sound
[05:16] <rubso> guys, is there any firestarter-like for KDE ?
[05:16] <uniq> sebasti: what games? names please.
[05:17] <uniq> rubso: guarddog
[05:17] <MetaMorfoziS> rubso firestarter works with kde
[05:17] <Sebasti> even no sound in Mealstrom for exampl.e  which I used to play when I had Fedora Core.  and have even played on XP.  and so I know this game has sound
[05:17] <MetaMorfoziS> firestarter uses gtk, that supported by kde [that use qt] 
[05:17] <rubso> Thanks.
[05:18] <CaBlGuY> !firestarter
[05:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[05:18] <Sebasti> altough this is when I am in Gnome and try and play these games.  maybe it would work with sound in KDE?  ,but I dont think if I am using Gnome KDE or whatever to play these games.  that that will make a difference?
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> Sebasti: If you have arts running try disabling it
[05:19] <Sebasti> what's arts?
[05:19] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:19] <thompa> ok, i know that. but will kde 3.5.3 be added one day to repos?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> thompa: for edgy
[05:20] <thompa> ok. so kde stays version within release.
[05:20] <thompa> thanks
[05:20] <uniq> everything statys at it's version after the version freeze.
[05:20] <thompa> fine
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> Sebasti: kde's soundserver (disable the sound server from system setting  then try it)
[05:21] <Sebasti> right, but I was using Gnome not KDE when trying these games so
[05:21] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:21] <uniq> metamorfozis: please don't repeat your question every 2 min.
[05:21] <Hawkwind> BTW, happy fathers day to all the fathers out there :)
[05:21] <Sebasti> My father is an a hole so no happy fathers day for him from me
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, /set delay 10min
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: FYI, wherever you flood next, if you flood, i will have the great enjoyment of banning you from there, dont think you'll get away with it, even though you were trying to have a bit of fun.
[05:22] <davelondon> are you having problems MetaMorfoziS
[05:22] <tof>  anyone know about a comparison between kexi and ooffice database (and ms access ;-) ?
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to buy an external dvdwriter
[05:22] <MetaMorfoziS> (plextor px750)
[05:23] <davelondon> and what's the actual problem
[05:23] <Slappy> external hd works fine here
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> and i'm not 100% it's supported by linux
[05:23] <Sebasti> why would the KDE soundserver be running when I am using Gnome?  it woudnt right
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> Ask in #ubuntu if you are not using kde
[05:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm don't want to use win and crap drivers to burn dvds... so this is the problem:D
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: if he does, call !kops will you?  :P
[05:23] <Sebasti> I would of, but I joiend join it again since I got banned
[05:23] <Sebasti> I coudn't join it
[05:23] <Hawkwind> Hah, most certainly
[05:24] <davelondon> I can't see a problem if it's USB but there is a 'hardware compatibility' web site that has a list of kit that works with linux
[05:25] <TechHut> bye guys, I have to go eat lunch
[05:25] <Hobbsee> Sebasti: odd that.  flamers arent allowed into channels.
[05:25] <MetaMorfoziS> where?
[05:25] <MetaMorfoziS> it supports firewire and usb2.0
[05:26] <davelondon> MetaMorfoziS: try google for the site and what is USB 2.0 ur pc or the dvdwriter
[05:26] <Sebasti> I got an idea
[05:26] <Sebasti> I am going to try the games in KDE
[05:27] <davelondon> anyone use a good erp/crm package, I have tinyerp working but it's too basic
[05:28] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[05:28] <davelondon> Sebasti: because it's the best sound server
[05:30] <geneo93> morning all
[05:31] <Sebasti> afternoon here
[05:33] <geneo93> well its close here too
[05:34] <cox377> afternoon
[05:34] <geneo93> 25 minutes it will be
[05:34] <cox377> where u @ gene?
[05:36] <davelondon> any americans here, ur team were great yesterday-funniest game I have seem in ages
[05:36] <Slappy> yes
[05:36] <Slappy> us here
[05:36] <geneo93> now dont knock us americans
[05:36] <Slappy> :)
[05:37] <geneo93> we dont have the same view as bush
[05:37] <davelondon> oh thats the world cup-soccer-i can tell u have no idea what I am talking about
[05:37] <davelondon> america knocks itself enough, there is no room
[05:37] <Slappy> lol
[05:38] <davelondon> the yanks were brilliant, they played Italy and got the draw
[05:39] <geneo93> i'd like to see some 3rd world country win it all
[05:39] <davelondon> for any americans translated that means: USA and Italy played a game of soccer and it ended 1 goal each, which we call a draw
[05:40] <Slappy> rotfl
[05:40] <Slappy> we do know a little
[05:40] <Slappy> lol
[05:40] <davelondon> watch out for ghana
[05:42] <uniq> guys, can you take the offtopic stuff to #kubuntu-offtopic please?
[05:42] <geneo93> oh sure
[05:43] <davelondon> ur joking u have a channel for people that don't want to talk about kubuntu
[05:43] <Hobbsee> davelondon: sure
[05:44] <Slappy> i love kubuntu
[05:44] <cox377> lol
[05:44] <Slappy> i   am a total linux n99b but man this is neat
[05:44] <geneo93> i'm not happy with the way its sucking up all the memory till it crashes
[05:45] <byen> hey guys. I need some help, how do i increase the size(length)of the window tabs on the tab bar?
[05:45] <cox377> slappy: certainly so.. but unfortunatly it's like a toy.. a big toy @ that, which is very difficult to stop playing with
[05:45] <davelondon> sounds a bit weird to me, there are 7000 channels for that, but I digress-anyone know a good non-web erp?
[05:46] <davelondon> byen: say that again?
[05:47] <geneo93> byen:  are you talking about popup
[05:48] <byen> geneo93: no.. you know the window list on the tastbar
[05:48] <byen> *tasbar
[05:48] <geneo93> no
[05:48] <geneo93> your talking about pager
[05:49] <byen> the opened windoe tabs on the taskbar
[05:49] <chavo> byen, it's a hidden setting, open up ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc
[05:49] <byen> how can i change it chavo
[05:49] <chavo> look for the [General]  section, if not there make it
[05:50] <chavo> then put this underneath it -> MaximumButtonWidth=440
[05:50] <chavo> you can change the 440 to whatever you want
[05:51] <byen> I dont have it there
[05:51] <geneo93> sure it is
[05:51] <byen> I am trying MaximumButtonWidth=300
[05:51] <chavo> then run -> dcop kicker kicker restart , to restart the taskbar
[05:51] <davelondon> bye chaps -its australia v brazil could be an upset on the books here
[05:54] <byen> chavo: it is not taking effect .. let me restart kde
[05:54] <chavo> byen, you don't need to restart
[05:55] <byen> should i make the General session as
[05:55] <visik7> how should zeroconf works ?  I've 2 kubuntu 6.06 but I can't connect eachother
[05:55] <chavo> it should have the brackets just like I wrote it
[05:55] <andre> I can't get apache to run... When I etc/init.d/apache2 start it doesn't give any error message, but ther is no apache process running. theres also nothing in the apche logs.
[05:55] <byen> [General]  or [$General]  chavo
[05:55] <elknof3> hello
[05:56] <elknof3> does anyone knows about the depurator i have to use for playing t.c splinter cell using wine
[05:56] <elknof3> ?
[05:56] <byen> Bingo! chavo this is the second time you helped me on this.. i was stupid not to save it the first time! thanks a bunch my friend!
[05:57] <chavo> andre the apache process is called httpd
[05:57] <thompa> i need to easily save web pages for offline viewing in Konqueror?
[05:57] <chavo> byen, anytime :)
[05:57] <andre> chavo: also not running.
[05:57] <thompa> online guides and stuff for a class,
[05:58] <byen> really.. thanks! this is cool.. being a gnome user and giving kde a fair shot! Ummm loving it!
[05:58] <chavo> yeah kde rocks
[05:58] <thompa> i know save as in konqueror, but is there a more efiecient way through bookmanrks?
[06:00] <thompa> i just found offline browsing mode in konqueror
[06:01] <bernier> hi, ive installed the gdb debugger now how do i stick it to the program i want to debug?
[06:01] <jpatrick> gdb <programname>
[06:01] <uniq> thompa: oh.. how do you choose that?
[06:02] <bernier> ok thanks
[06:03] <bernier> jpatrick: once the program crashes how do i get the error?
[06:03] <thompa> in konqueror settings cache, its not want i want
[06:03] <Rainier> greetings everybody
[06:03] <thompa> it just browses with no internet connected
[06:03] <jpatrick> should say it
[06:03] <Rainier> y got a problem with gcc
[06:03] <bernier> jpatrick: and if it doesn't =//
[06:03] <jpatrick> :/
[06:04] <jpatrick> !debuy
[06:04] <ubotu> jpatrick: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:04] <Rainier> but it seems more like its a problem with kubuntu
[06:04] <jpatrick> !debug
[06:04] <ubotu> jpatrick: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:04] <thompa> I have web pages with lengthy information i need to save
[06:04] <uniq> thompa: ah,that. :)
[06:04] <uniq> rainier: what is the problem?
[06:04] <thompa> i guess i can just use save as, but there must be another way.
[06:04] <Rainier> uniq: hello, I have this little program written in C with a pile
[06:04] <thompa> My class has no internet connection
[06:04] <jpatrick> bernier: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[06:04] <bernier> jpatrick: well everytime i use "ctrl+alt+esc" my kdesktop crashes
[06:05] <Rainier> uniq: and the push is giving me a segmentation fault...and i know it is correctly written
[06:05] <Rainier> uniq: cause it works in windows and even when i run it in TCC in dosbox
[06:05] <Rainier> uniq: so you know, its driving me crazy
[06:06] <uniq> rainier: ok, any change i can get the program and try to compile/debug it?
[06:06] <Rainier> uniq: yeah sure
[06:06] <Rainier> uniq: i would appreciate it
[06:06] <byen> ok Guys thanks for the help! chavo you rock!
[06:07] <Rainier> uniq: how do i send it?
[06:07] <uniq> rainier: how big?
[06:07] <chavo> thompa, I found it
[06:07] <loanwolf> ? can get blackdown java to work..but not sun's java...whats the difference in the 2
[06:07] <thompa> what i want to do is save page and some in depth links
[06:08] <chavo> thompa, go to Settings, Configure Extensions
[06:08] <thompa> chavo: what may i ask?
[06:08] <Rainier> uniq: haha just some kilobytes ;-)
[06:08] <thompa> ok
[06:08] <chavo> It's a web page archiver
[06:08] <Rainier> uniq: its like 200 lines of code maybe
[06:08] <ru> when i right click > open with on some files I have xine coming up twice
[06:08] <ru> how do I remove this
[06:08] <chavo> On the tools tab click web archiver
[06:09] <chavo> Then it will be in the Tools, menu
[06:09] <chavo> I'm not sure if any other browsers can view the archive though
[06:09] <thompa> thats ok, konqueror is good enough. it was already selected
[06:10] <thompa> chavo: right in front of me whole time. thanks
[06:10] <chavo> np :)
[06:10] <Rainier> uniq: you dont speak spanish right?
[06:11] <thompa> im going to test it, i thought archive was for compression though
[06:11] <chavo> thompa, it is compressed
[06:13] <thompa> is the same as saving the page
[06:14] <thompa> i want to save page and depth links
[06:14] <DrNickRiviera> if you have 2 dvd drives, how is it specified which one is accessible through dvd://
[06:14] <thompa> so when i open the page and click link i get that too
[06:16] <thompa> i think there must be another program to do that. like a web editor would i guess
[06:16] <chavo> thompa, you can try wget
[06:16] <thompa> ok
[06:16] <chavo> wget -r, will get recursive links
[06:17] <thompa> great
[06:17] <chavo> go to man:wget in konqueror for more options
[06:20] <DrNickRiviera> can anyone help me with my question about specifying which one of 2 dvd drives is accessible using dvd:// ?
[06:22] <chess> where is the repository for build-essential
[06:22] <uniq> rainier: no, very limited.
[06:23] <chavo> chess, it's in main
[06:23] <chess> says E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[06:25] <visik7> how should zeroconf works ?  I've 2 kubuntu 6.06 but I can't connect eachother
[06:37] <uniq> visik7: is the zeroconf package installed? - did you edit /etc/default/zeroconf and set FALLBACK=yes ?
[06:40] <visik7> uniq: no
[06:40] <visik7> I'll do
[06:40] <visik7> why it isn't installed by default ?
[06:40] <MetaMorfoziS> what is zeroconf?
[06:41] <visik7> a tool to autoconnect 2 computer without configuring it
[06:41] <MetaMorfoziS> filesharing?
[06:41] <MetaMorfoziS> for filesharing or for what?
[06:41] <visik7> connecting it brings up layer 3
[06:41] <MetaMorfoziS> 2 linux box or it's cross platform
[06:41] <chess> try samba
[06:42] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: macosx has it
[06:42] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: and maybe vista
[06:42] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, thnx
[06:43] <rraajj> How do I remove GRUB entries?
[06:43] <Tommy2k4> can flash not play sound on linux?
[06:44] <uniq> rraajj: remove the kernels. and run update-grub
[06:44] <MetaMorfoziS> raaj or: /boot/grub/menu.lst but first you may backup it...
[06:45] <MetaMorfoziS> and only do this if you know what you are doing:)
[06:45] <angasule> !qt4
[06:45] <ubotu> angasule: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:46] <rraajj> uniq: I just want to remove the very first entry (the latest kernel) for the moment, it's still not compatible with my ATI driver. Hehe. :D
[06:46] <rraajj> MetaMorfoziS: Okay, thanks!
[06:47] <geneo93> uniq:  do you know why this thing kills itself off when usong azureus
[06:48] <chavo> Tommy2k4, it depends I get sound from flash no problem, as long as no KDE sounds pop up.
[07:00] <tore> hi there
[07:01] <tore> someone can help me in switcing audio devices in kubuntu?
[07:01] <tore> i'v got a via chipset with audio and an usb andio devices
[07:02] <tore> and i dont know how to switch them as standard audio device...
[07:03] <geneo93> the audio expert is not here
[07:06] <tore> humm..
[07:06] <tore> ok
[07:06] <thompa> chavo: i found httrack or webhttrack to copy websites
[07:06] <geneo93> look for crimsun later
[07:07] <tore> ok, many tanks geneo93
[07:07] <geneo93> yw
[07:08] <geneo93> Happy Fathers Day to all you fathers
[07:10] <CaBlGuY> !google earth
[07:10] <ubotu> somebody said google earth was http://earth.google.com/ and to download http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[07:10] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[07:16] <CaBlGuY> anyone else got google earth on there install?
[07:16] <Leqtic> erhm
[07:16] <Leqtic> can anyone help me
[07:16] <Leqtic> can anyone help me, christ, erhm
[07:16] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[07:16] <Leqtic> It looks like i got an application up and running (kismet) but I cant see it anywhere
[07:16] <CaBlGuY> what seems to b the problem...
[07:16] <Leqtic> does linux has a task list like Winxp?
[07:17] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm no
[07:17] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[07:17] <Leqtic> I can hear the applikation beep in the background  (probarly cuz I didnt shut it down correctly before restart)
[07:17] <CaBlGuY> have you logged out and logged back in?
[07:17] <chavo> Leqtic, kismet is command line app
[07:17] <Leqtic> CaBlGuY:  I have restarted
[07:17] <chavo> also hit ctrl-esc for taskmanager
[07:17] <Leqtic> chavo:  Yeh, but I can hear the beeping in the backjground
[07:18] <CaBlGuY> ok, and have you done the upgrade and update?
[07:18] <chavo> you can also kill from the command line -> killall kismet
[07:19] <Leqtic> thanks chavo =)
[07:20] <CaBlGuY> Leqtic: u may have to install the latest version of kismet also...
[07:21] <CaBlGuY> chavo: know anything about google earth on here?
[07:21] <chavo> CaBlGuY, I have it installed sure
[07:21] <CaBlGuY> did u have buoild a package for it?
[07:21] <chavo> no I used the installer
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> ok, so Im gettin it form the site now..  it's a .bin file..
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> what installer did u use?
[07:22] <chavo> yeah just run -> sudo sh google....bin --nochown
[07:22] <chavo> the file is an installer
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> ahhh  ok. col..
[07:22] <CaBlGuY> on the command line then..
[07:23] <chavo> yes
[07:23] <CaBlGuY> and what is sh?
[07:23] <CaBlGuY> I'm still learnikn all the Linux commands n stuff.  :p
[07:23] <chavo> sh is the shell, it's actually a link to /bin/bash
[07:24] <CaBlGuY> ahh  ok..
[07:24] <chavo> the installer is a bash script and you're telling bash to run it
[07:24] <CaBlGuY> and what does the --nochown do?
[07:25] <geneo93> not to change ownership
[07:25] <chavo> that way all users can run it, I don't know why google set the installer up like that
[07:25] <CaBlGuY> ok cool..
[07:25] <CaBlGuY> im workin on it now..
[07:28] <CaBlGuY> cool..  all installed...
[07:28] <CaBlGuY> thanks chavo.. ;)
[07:31] <CaBlGuY> ummm  where is it installed at?  I'm not seein it on the menu anywhere..
[07:32] <chavo> CaBlGuY, I don't think it makes a menu item
[07:32] <geneo93> start it from terminal
[07:33] <geneo93> or find the bin file and add it to menu
[07:33] <CaBlGuY> ok, and it would be just google earth form term right?
[07:33] <chavo> googleearth
[07:33] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[07:34] <chavo> CaBlGuY, cp /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth.desktop ~/desktop <- that will put an icon on your desktop
[07:34] <chavo> make that ~/Dsktop
[07:34] <chavo> ~/Desktop
[07:34] <umberleigh> can someone help, i think i've just seriously hosed my system trying to enable dma in dapper :s
[07:34] <chavo> <-bad typer
[07:34] <CaBlGuY> hehe  ok,
[07:34] <umberleigh> it now won't recognise my hard disk, and just f
[07:35] <umberleigh> ..inds /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1, sda2 etc when i boot from a live cd
[07:35] <chavo> umberleigh, what were you doing?
[07:36] <umberleigh> trying to enable dma (which in hindsight was a stupid idea now i've realised it was already enabled in dapper)
[07:42] <umberleigh> added the lines /dev/hda { dma = on } and /dev/hdc { dma = on } in /etc/hdparm.conf, then rebooted. i managed to log in okay, but then my system locked up after about 30secs and i had to do a hard reset
[07:43] <umberleigh> then i couldn't boot at all, and i can't access the bios configuration too, for some reason.
[07:43] <umberleigh> it's not recognising an
[07:43] <Kristophe> whowhowhoooo wait a minute google earth is now on linux??? Hiyaaaa! (sorry but I feel better now :-)
[07:44] <umberleigh> ..y system disk, and booting from a knoppix cd only recognises /dev/sda, my partitions are on /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc
[07:45] <umberleigh> :s
[07:48] <geneo93> so did you use hdparm on partition or disk
[07:49] <umberleigh> sudo hdparm /dev/hda, and the same for /dev/hdc
[07:50] <icheyne> has anyone else reported Kubuntu freezing just before loading up KDE?
[07:50] <geneo93> thats not how it done
[07:51] <h3sp4wn> icheyne: With the stock ubuntu kernel ?
[07:51] <icheyne> I think so
[07:51] <icheyne> I just installed it
[07:51] <icheyne> did an apt-get upgrade
[07:51] <umberleigh> geneo93: they're the only hdparm commands i issued before rebooting
[07:51] <icheyne> and rebooted but it would not start
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> try rebooting with the old kernel (2.6.15-23 - press escape as soon as it gets past the bios)
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> and select that from the grub list
[07:52] <icheyne> oh ok
[07:52] <icheyne> I'll try that thanks
[07:52] <icheyne> hang on
[07:53] <geneo93> umberleigh:  hdparm -d /dev/sda
[07:54] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: it freezes with the old kernel too
[07:54] <umberleigh> when i boot the machine up it either hangs at the post before checking disks and memory, or gets past that, skips the part where it would usually check for my sata disk (the one that's not being recognised anymore) and goes straight to an error message along the lines of 'no system disk/bootable disk'
[07:54] <geneo93> then the video driver is messed up
[07:54] <umberleigh> great :(
[07:55] <umberleigh> what can i do about it?
[07:55] <geneo93> do a low level format
[07:55] <umberleigh> ARG
[07:56] <umberleigh> aren't there any alternatives?
[07:56] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: I think I found the problem!
[07:56] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197229&highlight=kubuntu+boot+problem
[07:56] <geneo93> umberleigh:  you maybe beable to use testdisk to recover boot sector
[07:56] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: I'll try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:57] <icheyne> h3sp4wn: in recovery mode
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> icheyne: Sounds like a good idea
[07:58] <umberleigh> i can't even get it to pass the post atm, it's locking up everytime
[07:59] <geneo93> turn off the power for 60 seconds
[08:00] <rexykik> please tell me how to change my kubuntu to single user so I do not have to log in everytime I boot. Also, is there a way to automatically execute a command after logging in (after KDE loads)
[08:00] <rexykik> ?
[08:00] <rexykik> i am using kdm
[08:01] <geneo93> yes system settings login manager
[08:01] <geneo93> admin mode
[08:02] <rexykik> ah
[08:02] <rexykik> found it
[08:02] <rexykik> thank you
[08:02] <rexykik> have any idea about the command execution?
[08:03] <chavo> rexykik, go to ~/.kde/Autostart you can put links, scripts or .desktop files
[08:03] <geneo93> what are you trying to run
[08:05] <rexykik> a program called synergy
[08:05] <rexykik> it is just a command
[08:06] <geneo93> oic
[08:06] <rexykik> it allows me to use dual heads over multiple computers
[08:06] <chavo> rexykik, I use synergy too, I just have a script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:06] <rexykik> ah
[08:06] <rexykik> do i need to make a directory for it?
[08:06] <rexykik> or just stick in a script?
[08:07] <cox377> does anyone here run azureus on there kubuntu?
[08:07] <geneo93> cox377:  i am
[08:07] <jme__> i did
[08:07] <chavo> are you running the server or client?
[08:07] <rexykik> i've been trying to get it to run, but I haven't been able to get JRE installed
[08:07] <cox377> do i have any probs
[08:07] <rexykik> client
[08:07] <cox377> it seems to crash when ever i load it
[08:07] <cox377> on both my kubuntu machines
[08:07] <chavo> then you need a script,
[08:08] <geneo93> you need to configure java
[08:08] <rexykik> just synergyc <server> &
[08:08] <cox377> how do i go about doing that geneo?
[08:08] <rexykik> ?
[08:08] <poimen> I went to watch tokyo drift, the best racing movie ever
[08:08] <geneo93> cant remember
[08:08] <chavo> well yeah and !#/bin/bash, on first line
[08:08] <geneo93> and its not in my bash history
[08:08] <chavo> then chmod +x
[08:09] <cox377> all that happens, everytime i launch it it brings up  a warning
[08:09] <soulrider> hi
[08:09] <cox377> "azureus did not shut down tidly
[08:09] <soulrider> im trying kubuntu for the first time!
[08:10] <rexykik> alright
[08:10] <rexykik> going to test
[08:10] <chx> hi. anyone using ktorrent here? i tried to google but could not find the info -- how could I restrict ktorrent to connect to only a range of IP addresses?
[08:11] <rexykik> weird
[08:11] <rexykik> when it runs the script it just opens it in kate
[08:11] <jme__> cox377: try to close it manually
[08:11] <rexykik> i wrote it with vi
[08:12] <rexykik> any ideas?
[08:12] <geneo93> hehe
[08:12] <soulrider> uhm guys, im trying to install Opera, but i dont know how to :P
[08:12] <geneo93> apt-get install opera
[08:12] <soulrider> and where do i do that? :-/
[08:13] <soulrider> i downlaoded a.deb file to ym desktop
[08:13] <soulrider> i right clicked it and then hit install
[08:13] <soulrider> but i get some errors
[08:13] <geneo93> in terminal but you need to use sudo before that line
[08:13] <soulrider> err, this is my first time trying linux... so i dont really knwo what youre talking about :P
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> soulrider opera has some problems in ubuntu for me all machines that i managed
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> so i guess you to use firefox or konqueror
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> at the first time
[08:14] <soulrider> oh .
[08:14] <soulrider> im gonna miss opera :P
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> for me it said: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) needed
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> but it not installable
[08:15] <soulrider> yes, i think i got some errors like that
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> soulridr try: open Konsole and type: sudo dpkg -i /your/oprea/deb
[08:15] <soulrider> by the way, when i wanna downlaod a program what is it that i wanna get? because i dont know how to compile
[08:15] <geneo93> you need to enable all the repositories
[08:15] <soulrider> is it the bianries thaty will install without problems?
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> and you get's something same like this:D
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> You can either use the developer snapshot of opera
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> or take the deb appart and remove the xlib dependancy (it will still work
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i remove the xlib ?
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> dependeancy
[08:16] <cox377> so no one knows how to get azureus up and running properly on Kubuntu?
[08:17] <geneo93> !java
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> cox where you are
[08:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> have you java and the azuereus tarball?
[08:17] <geneo93> !azureus
[08:17] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:17] <cox377> I install azureus via the getapt
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> ? it's in repos?
[08:17] <cox377> aptget**
[08:17] <cox377> yeh
[08:17] <soulrider> ill play around a bit mroe with linux adn then go back to win for the day :P
[08:17] <MetaMorfoziS> hm... i guess download tarball from azureus.sf.net
[08:17] <geneo93>  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:18] <soulrider> oh by the way
[08:18] <soulrider> im usiong the live CD
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> and java -jar ./azureus in the extracted azureus's folder
[08:18] <soulrider> where does it save everything that id ownlaod and intsall ?
[08:18] <soulrider> or is it gone after i reboot?
[08:18] <geneo93> soulrider:  to your home dir or where ever you choose
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ dunno, i think the best way is thee text install i have some problem with live, but the text mode worked fine
[08:19] <cox377> geneo93: i'm assuming that was meant for me "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[08:19] <geneo93> yes and pick 3 for choice
[08:19] <soulrider> geneo93: where is my home dir set or where can i set it ?
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> hello, I get the following error message: root@ringo:~# sudo mount /dev/sda1
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:19] <TheFuzzball>        missing codepage or other error
[08:19] <TheFuzzball>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:19] <TheFuzzball>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:19] <TheFuzzball> can anyone help?
[08:19] <cox377> geneo93: there are only two options available?
[08:20] <cox377>       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[08:20] <cox377> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[08:20] <geneo93> so you dont have sun jave then
[08:20] <geneo93> cox377:  look here !java
[08:20] <cox377> ok, do u know what the apt-get is for that?
[08:21] <geneo93> you have multiverse enabled
[08:21] <Dinofly> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:22] <cox377> cheers
[08:22] <cox377> getting it now
[08:22] <rexykik> have any idea why a script i wrote would open in kate (gui text editor) rather than running?
[08:22] <geneo93> then run the conf script again
[08:22] <rexykik> i have !#/bin/bash at the beginning...
[08:22] <Dinofly> is it executable rexykik ?
[08:22] <rexykik> yes it is
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> because you not set the "x" (rexecutable) parameters
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> chmod +x ./yourfile
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> try: sh ./yourfile
[08:23] <ninHer> hi all
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[08:23] <rexykik> works
[08:25] <Tomaz> hey, people.
[08:25] <rexykik> weird
[08:25] <rexykik> still opening it in kate
[08:25] <Tomaz> how do i get a new language pack for the entire kubuntu? when i installed the system, i was out of web, and now the system is in english, and i need it to be in portuguese brazilian
[08:25] <rexykik> it is in Autostart
[08:26] <rexykik> sh ./myfile works
[08:27] <geneo93> check its properties
[08:27] <slow-motion> re
[08:27] <rexykik> i set it 777
[08:28] <Tomaz> someone here knows how i download a languagem pack for the entire kubuntu?
[08:29] <snikker> where is xmatrix screen saver under dapper?
[08:29] <rexykik> i'm a dapper dan man
[08:30] <chavo> rexykik, should be #!/bin/bash on the first line
[08:30] <chavo> not !#
[08:30] <Dinofly> Tomaz: for french i type
[08:30] <Dinofly> sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr
[08:30] <Tomaz> hum.... i didn't find the language-pack-pt-br here
[08:31] <Dinofly> then probably sudo apt-get install language-support-pt
[08:31] <rexykik> thanks for the help
[08:31] <rexykik> got it working
[08:31] <geneo93> typo
[08:31] <rexykik> had to change it to .sh
[08:32] <chavo> rexykik, the first line is wrong
[08:32] <rexykik> huh
[08:32] <rexykik> still works
[08:32] <rexykik> oddly enough
[08:32] <chavo> should be #!/bin/bash, I told you backwards
[08:32] <geneo93> well he bypassed the first line now
[08:32] <rexykik> yeah
[08:32] <rexykik> oh well
[08:32] <rexykik> thanks anyways
[08:32] <rexykik> got it all worked out
[08:32] <chavo> well as long as it works
[08:32] <rexykik> yups
[08:32] <rexykik> i fixed it anyways
[08:32] <rexykik> but still
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> )
[08:33] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[08:33] <Tomaz> dinofly, i got this error when apt-get install language-support-pt
[08:33] <Tomaz> Error: 'pt' is not a supported language or locale
[08:35] <Dinofly> sorry i can't help you more, it works for french so i didn't encounter this error
[08:36] <geneo93> Tomaz:  try language-pack-kde-pt-base
[08:36] <geneo93> then language-pack-kde-pt
[08:36] <Karlos> http://experts.microsoft.fr/
[08:37] <Tomaz> tanks dude =D
[08:37] <MetaMorfoziS> hohohoho:))
[08:37] <geneo93> np
[08:37] <MetaMorfoziS> Karlos: cool:)
[08:38] <Chameleon22> can somebody tell me (link perhaps) how to read status information returned by dpkg --list, the rc, ii, pi, ... that stuff
[08:38] <Karlos> my pleasure LOL
[08:38] <snikker> i'm unable to find xmatrix screen saver for dapper...
[08:38] <rexykik> i added the multiverse and universe repositories, but for some reason sun-java5-jre still isn't showing up after doing an update. any ideas?
[08:38] <rexykik> should i just do the fakeroot workaround?
[08:39] <Karlos> already tryed with source-o-matic ?
[08:39] <rexykik> source-o-matic?
[08:39] <geneo93> yeah it tell you repos you what
[08:39] <rexykik> is it command line or?
[08:39] <Karlos> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic Sources.list generator
[08:40] <rexykik> thx
[08:40] <geneo93> be nice if someone wrote a scritp for it
[08:41] <steveire> I think I read a tutorial before on how to install giFT. Anyone any idea where I might have found it? I checked the wiki already, and asked ubotu
[08:42] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install gift
[08:43] <geneo93> !gift
[08:43] <ubotu> geneo93: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:44] <geneo93> ubotu:  have another beer
[08:44] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, geneo93
[08:44] <steveire> Yeah sure I'll just go for it with common sense. There's some configuation script I'll have a look at...
[08:52] <cox377> does anyone have any idea to share a drive to both linux and windows systems
[08:52] <cox377> it seems i can only share to windows and i cant select the NFS option
[08:54] <root_> ciao
[08:54] <root_> sono uno nuovo di kubuntu
[08:54] <jme__> if nfs doesnt work, you may try 'samba'
[08:55] <jme__> root_: this is english speaking here, is there a #kubuntu-it ?
[08:55] <jme__> root_: i just checked, there is a #kubuntu-it with 45 people on it
[08:55] <jme__> all speaking italian :)
[08:56] <geneo93> you sure its not french
[08:56] <geneo93> ha
[08:57] <cox377> jme_: basically, i've got the point where i've got the windows boxes talking to the linux boxes and visa versa
[08:57] <cox377> but the linux wont speak to the link
[08:57] <cox377> i can see the intial share folders but it just says
[08:57] <cox377> "xyz folder does not exist"
[08:58] <jme__> cox377: sorry cant help you with that
[08:58] <cox377> and when i check the share options NFS has a big red X next to it
[08:58] <cox377> :s
[09:08] <jvin248> Hi.  I'm running LTSP on Kubuntu Dapper (& Breezy).  None of my 'non-prime' users are able to log in at the client screen (the client does the login screen-X-login screen cycle).  The server prime user can log in and fully operate from both the server & client. Any suggestions on where I should look/test/experiment with to get secondary accounts to log in (I created the secondary accounts under "System Settings/Users & Groups")? Th
[09:13] <SeanTater> jvin248: okay -- what do you mean by prime- and non-prime?
[09:13] <SeanTater> jvin248: root versus everyone else?
[09:14] <SeanTater> jvin248: Then again -- I have no idea what LTSP is
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> jvin248: #edubuntu knows most about ltsp
[09:15] <cox377> is there a specific room for networking?
[09:15] <h3sp4wn> What do you need to know about networking ?
[09:17] <michel> i would like to know if gcc is automaticly installed with kubuntu 6.06?
[09:17] <geneo93> no
[09:17] <michel> what should i do to install it?
[09:18] <geneo93> michel:  build-essential
[09:18] <geneo93> sudo apt-get build-essential
[09:20] <michel> thank you
[09:20] <michel> but firefox is onboard?
[09:20] <geneo93> no not by default
[09:20] <michel> hmm
[09:21] <geneo93> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[09:21] <michel> sudo apt-get mozilla-firefox?
[09:21] <michel> hehe
[09:21] <geneo93> damn install
[09:21] <michel> ok thx
[09:21] <geneo93> fingers are faster then brain
[09:22] <kumamako> hi folks. i have trouble starting kubuntu. i think its because i have 2 vga cards but using on windows just fine. anyone got any ideas how can i settle this thing?
[09:22] <geneo93> kumamako:  you can blacklist one
[09:23] <kumamako> how do i blacklist one?
[09:23] <ubuntu> hi
[09:23] <ubuntu> can someone help me find my hard drives? :-/
[09:24] <geneo93> in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:26] <ubuntu> and how do i mount my NTFS partitions?
[09:26] <vito> hey
[09:26] <geneo93> !ntfs
[09:26] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[09:26] <vito> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.
[09:26] <vito> what is the package that i need to install to remove this error?
[09:28] <steveire> !skype
[09:28] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:28] <kumamako> geneo93: sorry but am a really a linux newbie. im running kubuntu now on the live cd i think. this live cd worked because i unpluged the first agp card. now i think its utilizing the on board vga as when i got 2 together, the startup hangs. so what are the exact things i should do that blacklisting thingy?
[09:29] <steveire> I can't find skype in seveas repositories
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> kumamako: Just disable the onboard vga in the bios if you don't use 2 monitors
[09:29] <monkey__> if someone had to say the most valuable skills that you could have with a computer what would they be>
[09:30] <geneo93> good at nothing but wasting time here
[09:31] <kumamako> h3sp4wn: but i would want to use 2 monitor. i came across this program called xinerama which can utilize dual monitor. the problem is, i cant even install now.
[09:31] <steveire> Do I have to get skype from skype.com or something?
[09:31] <psykodelike> use adept
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> kumamako: Even with text based installer ?
[09:31] <psykodelike> apt-get skype
[09:31] <kumamako> h3sp4wn: yup. it hangs.
[09:32] <kumamako> it says something like kernel panic
[09:32] <sukh> kubuntu is so slow, why does it run stuff like rsync,etc by default
[09:32] <psykodelike> man the new kubuntu is awesome
[09:32] <geneo93> kumamako:  what card you have
[09:32] <steveire> no skype package
[09:33] <kumamako> 1 on board vga (on windows its called intel extreme), and a 64mb geforce mx
[09:34] <geneo93> have you installed nvidia-glx
[09:34] <angasule> where can I see a list of the packages in dapper drake? specifically I want to check if qt 4.1 and corresponding pyqt version are available (I haven't yet switched to dapper drake)
[09:35] <kumamako> nvidia-glx? where should i install that? on this live cd?
[09:35] <geneo93> qt4.1 no
[09:35] <steveire> I can't find it on seveas either
[09:35] <angasule> just qt4.0? I could really use the svg stuff :/ how about pyqt4.x?
[09:36] <geneo93> kumamako:  no live cd wont work
[09:36] <geneo93> angasule:  leme looksee
[09:36] <kumamako> geneo93: so what should i do exactly now?
[09:36] <angasule> thanks geneo93
[09:37] <omeow> Is there a way to stop Kubuntu from playing my microphone over the main soundsystem, but still let it record stuff?
[09:37] <geneo93> well if you have onboard disabled try reboot
[09:37] <omeow> It's rather annoying hearing myself amplified like this.
[09:37] <geneo93> or try vesa at boot
[09:37] <kumamako> after dat?
[09:38] <geneo93> angasule:  no
[09:38] <billytwowilly> anyone have a howto for getting xgl/compiz working with kubuntu?
[09:39] <geneo93> angasule:  this is heavilly python based system
[09:40] <angasule> geneo93: I don't understand, isn't that a reason in favour of pyqt4?
[09:40] <geneo93> well qt 4 isnt used to do this release
[09:41] <angasule> oh, yes, I understand that, your comment about this being a python based system confused me, that's all
[09:41] <geneo93> angasule:  3.3.6 is used by default
[09:42] <angasule> thanks geneo93 :)
[09:42] <Phoenix92x> hi, Im running dapper on a latitude D610 and having no end of troubles with a process called gam_server ALWAYS eating up at least 20% of my CPU, what can I do about this?
[09:43] <geneo93> just has qt4 designer and limquist
[09:43] <kumamako> geneo93: so if i disable the onboard vga, i just install kubuntu first and activate back onboard vga for use wit xinerama. everything should work out fine right? it wont try to probe and hang the system like usual right?
[09:43] <ubuntu> !mp3
[09:43] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:43] <steveire> skype?
[09:43] <sukh> how can i speed up kubuntu
[09:43] <geneo93> kumamako:  that should work
[09:44] <geneo93> bbiab
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> sukh: You could try using the ck kernel patches
[09:48] <Phoenix92x> the problem with gam_server eating up the CPU for no reason is made especially bad by the fact that this is a laptop and I kind of /like/ my battery life
[09:51] <geneo93> Phoenix92x:  maybe you can turn it off in system settings services
[09:52] <Phoenix92x> geneo93: fabulous idea, I should have thought of it
[09:52] <geneo93> its not in my list
[09:56] <winbond> hello hello hello
[09:57] <winbond> how can i enter command mode before the xserver loads without running the recover mode???
[09:59] <JavaByte> alt F2 possibly
[09:59] <JavaByte> or is it Ctrl + Alt + F2
[10:00] <JavaByte> something like that
[10:01] <DrBair> has anyone else had issues with arK refusing to do random things
[10:02] <winbond> thanks java . ill try this out
[10:04] <steveire> packages are not being upgraded by aptitude. anyone know why?
[10:04] <steveire> It says there are two packages upgradable, but it doesn't upgrade them
[10:12] <jvin248> SeanTater: I used the term "prime" as the first user account created during OS installation (I'm sure there is an official title that I missed).  LTSP is "linux terminal server project" and is used for a client-server network (use a "new" desktop as the server and run many old cheap clients like Pentium Is & IIs around the house/business as client workstations for input and display only)...  found the problem - the secondary users 
[10:12] <jvin248>  which works on server but LTSP clients can't handle the routine.  After logging in new users on the server and changing password then the new user can login at the clients ok.
[10:18] <mindspit> Hallo!  in order to use Skype in kubuntu is it better to install OSS than ALSA as a sound server ?
[10:21] <thompa> my screen is locking uo in opengl somewhat after upgrade
[10:21] <mindspit> Hello! in order to use Skype in kubuntu is it better to install OSS than ALSA as a sound server ? can ypu answer me ?
[10:22] <thompa> hod do i reconfigure xorg?
[10:22] <thompa> nvidia is there, the driver, but framerate has lost
[10:22] <Official_C> anyone here have the book: "A practical guide to Linux" by Mark Sobell
[10:22] <SeanTater> thompa: sure you have the proprietary driver?
[10:23] <SeanTater> Official_C: Nope -- not me
[10:23] <Official_C> ever hear of it
[10:23] <Official_C> >
[10:23] <Official_C> ?
[10:23] <thompa> since some upgrade nvidia is not working
[10:23] <SeanTater> Official_C: nope-- never heard of it
[10:23] <Official_C> do you have any Linux books
[10:23] <thompa> i just did nvidia-glx some weeks ago, all was fine till today
[10:23] <SeanTater> thompa: okay -- if you want to reconfigure xorg, do the following
[10:24] <SeanTater> Official_C: Nope -- never have, but I've learnt quit a bit otherwise
[10:24] <thompa> i never had nvidia logo but it worked before
[10:24] <mindspit> we must get a life!
[10:24] <FisherP> geneo93 goodmorning.... sounds like someone else hase problems with nvidia
[10:24] <SeanTater> thompa: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <thompa> thanks
[10:24] <SeanTater> mindspit: ALSA is probably better
[10:25] <Official_C> SeanTater: do you read guides at the Linux Documentation Project website?
[10:25] <SeanTater> Official_C: I just noticed it existed about a week ago -- needless to say -- no
[10:25] <Official_C> oh
[10:25] <SeanTater> Official_C: what to know how I learned?
[10:26] <Official_C> how
[10:26] <Official_C> just by using it?
[10:26] <SeanTater> Official_C: Make another partition or find another computer, and install linux on it
[10:26] <Official_C> i am using linux right now
[10:26] <Official_C> i already know the basics
[10:26] <Official_C> im looking to take the next step
[10:26] <SeanTater> Official_C: Then you play  until you figure everything out
[10:26] <steveire> how do I find a file called foo if I don't know where it is? find foo?
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> whereis foo
[10:26] <SeanTater> Official_C: Start with BASH -- the Python
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or locate foo
[10:27] <SeanTater> Official_C: Set up a web server just becasuee you want to know how..
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or install krusader [twin panel filemanager like totelcmdr]  and it can find from gui...
[10:27] <Official_C> SeanTater: yes, i have been, but i dont believe it is posible to learn EVERYTHING without some documentation/tutorials
[10:27] <MetaMorfoziS> or, midnightcommander [mc]  [Escape]  + [?] 
[10:27] <steveire> it's not a binary. It's just a text file, and might be on my fat partition somewhere i think
[10:27] <gil> i need some help with my screensavers
[10:27] <steveire> Can't find it though
[10:28] <steveire> find foo doesn't find anything
[10:28] <gil> somne of the opengl ones only run at 1/3 of the screen
[10:28] <gil> any help?
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> alt enter?
[10:28] <SeanTater> Official_C: I read the BASH and Python manuals
[10:28] <SeanTater> Official_C: look through gnu.org and docs.python.org
[10:29] <SeanTater> Official_C: I think I will learn some sql, perhaps from w3schools.com
[10:29] <gil> help with open GL anyone?
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: programming perl and advanced perl are the only two books on scripting type stuff you need
[10:32] <Official_C> SeanTater: do you run a server?
[10:32] <JavaByte> whats the install path to install Flash into konquerer
[10:32] <Kyral> SeanTater: MySQL In A NutShell from OReilly is all you need for SQL :P
[10:32] <gil> ok....
[10:33] <gil> will anyone tell my what the open Gl Lib /headers are?
[10:33] <gil> which should be installed???!!
[10:33] <Kyral> GLUT?
[10:33] <gil> ok
[10:33] <JavaByte> nah GLUT's an extension to open GL
[10:34] <Official_C> anyone here run a server of any type?
[10:34] <Kyral> What do I know, I'm a SysAdmin :P
[10:34] <Kyral> Official_C: thats a BIG definition
[10:34] <Kyral> but yes I do
[10:34] <Kyral> I assume you mean like LAMP
[10:34] <Kyral> or MailServs
[10:34] <Official_C> do you have a regular subscription to your ISP?
[10:34] <JavaByte> well it is - thats all - i mean it's not open GL - it's open GL + extras
[10:35] <Kyral> "regular subscription"
[10:35] <Kyral> wtf is that?
[10:35] <Official_C> are you allowed to run a server with a basic ISP subscription?
[10:35] <Kyral> I run it from college :D
[10:35] <Kyral> ;P
[10:36] <Official_C> Kyral: what i mean by regular subscription is an average amount of bandwidth
[10:36] <JavaByte> in fact it runs ontop of the openGL lib - so it's an extension like i said !!
[10:36] <Kyral> I have no idea, I never tried to run it from home
[10:36] <Official_C> the type of subsciption a normal client user would get
[10:36] <Kyral> I assume that if you don't generate too much traffic they won't notice...most ISPs documentation on that kinda thing is shit
[10:37] <gil> ok well...what is the openGL lib that  i should install
[10:37] <gil> ?
[10:37] <Official_C> oh ok
[10:37] <JavaByte> gil: should be as simple as typing openGL into adept
[10:37] <Kyral> or intended to drive you to "business" class shit
[10:37] <Kyral> with stupider support
[10:38] <gil> ok
[10:38] <Official_C> kyral: indeed i can
[10:38] <Kyral> "We will give you a static IP!" Idiots they KNOW that if you don't yank the cable modem from the wall your IP remains the same
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: You can get high quality hosting you just have to be willing to pay decent money for it
[10:39] <Kyral> Hosting?
[10:39] <Kyral> Dude I run my own server
[10:39] <Official_C> to some people id imagine it is worth it
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> Co location
[10:39] <Kyral> I just need the pipe to the Net!
[10:39] <Kyral> and I'm trying to find out how I can do it myself too :P
[10:40] <Official_C> Kyral:  pipe to the net??
[10:40] <Kyral> Yah
[10:40] <Official_C> Kyral: what do you mean?
[10:40] <DoctorMO> hey all
[10:40] <rdt> Kyral, are you on a cable modem?
[10:40] <Kyral> my reasoning is "What makes ISPs so special that they get to control Net access? What do they do that we can't"
[10:40] <Kyral> at home yes
[10:40] <DoctorMO> what dll do I need to install to enable real media playback in totem?
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Its useful for someone else to be monitoring the server other than yourself
[10:41] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: no it wouldn't
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Are you awake 24/7 ?
[10:41] <Kyral> 1) I run Xen
[10:41] <Official_C> kyral: they are what make it possible to connect to larger nodes
[10:41] <jme__> DoctorMO: google for 'ubuntu restricted format' you will get a page explaining it
[10:41] <Kyral> Official_C: Node? You mean DNS
[10:41] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: luckly my server doesn't need to be
[10:41] <rdt> Kyral, most ISP's have an ISP that they get service from (unless they are 'Tier 0')
[10:41] <DoctorMO> jme__: I've read it, wha do you want me to understand?
[10:42] <jme__> DoctorMO: the solution to your problem :)
[10:42] <Kyral> and even if it does go down in the middle of the night, I'll bring it up in the morning
[10:42] <jme__> Kyral: what it your issue ?
[10:42] <DoctorMO> jme__: it talks about installing gstream ugly formats, done... no real media playback
[10:42] <Kyral> jme__: huh?
[10:42] <Official_C> Kyral: doesnt it go to larger and larger nodes?
[10:42] <Kyral> Official_C: define "node"
[10:42] <jme__> Kyral: ok let me rephrase, what are you talking about :)
[10:43] <jme__> DoctorMO: so i dunno
[10:43] <Kyral> jme__: I dunno...I was helping then got into a rant about how stupid and profit driven corporate America is
[10:43] <Official_C> i guess kind of like a relay...since if you are sending data across the world, at some point, a satellite would have to be used
[10:44] <jme__> Kyral: ah ok :)
[10:44] <Official_C> please forgive me if i sound ignorant, i dont know too much on the subject
[10:44] <Official_C> thats why i'm asking
[10:44] <JavaByte> gil: i've just had a look and i can't figure it either - there is not OpenGL1.5 lib no OpenGL2 lib and no GLX lib only GLUT and other extensions - i guess therefore that i was wrong and you do need GLUT though that is in fact OpenGL Utility Toolkit which is not OpenGL or a library!!!
[10:44] <jme__> Official_C: sattelit doesnt have to be used. in fact this is avoidded when possible
[10:44] <Kyral> Its just that it seems like most ISP websites are designed for the masses, aka idiots (apology if I offend)
[10:45] <Official_C> they use underwater lines?
[10:45] <Kyral> with NO way for people who want streight tech answers to find it
[10:45] <jme__> Official_C: satellite communication have 'high latency' which make them unsuitable for common internet use
[10:45] <jme__> Official_C: ye
[10:45] <jme__> s
[10:45] <macd> thats b/c ISP's dont give you the answrs you need, technicly, remember most ISP users are end users.
[10:45] <Kyral> hehe don't get me started on end users
[10:46] <Official_C> jme: yeah i figured there would probably be a latency issue with satellites,thats why i was kinda curious
[10:46] <macd> without end users wed all be out of work.
[10:46] <Kyral> They hire you because you know more about the situation than they do
[10:46] <Kyral> then they try to act like they know more
[10:46] <macd> thats what management does.
[10:46] <macd> welcome to the real world :P
[10:46] <Official_C> its just crazy when you think there are lines running sompletely across the atlantic ocean
[10:46] <Kyral> yah the real world bites
[10:46] <Kyral> I'll be over here in GNU Land :D
[10:46] <macd> Official_C: where else would you have them :P
[10:47] <jme__> Official_C: well satellite seem even more crazy :)
[10:47] <Kyral> TCP/IP by Pigeon
[10:47] <Official_C> i guess its just the "physical" aspect of the cables
[10:47] <macd> microwave links are fairly fast with low latency, its these silly hughes systems for soho internet that have no QoS
[10:47] <Official_C> macd: i just felt a breeze over my head
[10:48] <macd> yeah sometimes that happens
[10:48] <Kyral> Corporate America has to understand
[10:48] <Official_C> lol
[10:48] <Kyral> that they cannot control the Net
[10:48] <Kyral> its OUR playground
[10:48] <nnn0> oh they can ;)
[10:48] <macd> corporate america paved the way to the internet
[10:48] <Kyral> they try
[10:48] <macd> and built it
[10:48] <Kyral> macd: not true
[10:48] <nnn0> don't underestimate the power of the dark side
[10:48] <jme__> well they can control and they try
[10:48] <macd> they can and DO control it
[10:49] <Kyral> the Internet as we know it was started by the Department Of Defense
[10:49] <Official_C> i think they need to control the net to some extent
[10:49] <jme__> 'net neutrality' fight happening just now is part of it
[10:49] <Kyral> jme__: I know
[10:49] <Official_C> standards need to be upheld
[10:49] <Official_C> or the net would be chaos
[10:49] <Kyral> jme__: I emailed my Senators
[10:49] <Kyral> Official_C: Thats what the W3C is for
[10:49] <macd> and until someone comes up with billions of dollars to kay your own infrastructure and long haul lines, guess what, they WILL control it
[10:49] <Kyral> The ancient ARPANet
[10:49] <jme__> Kyral: good :) ask people to put net neutrality picture on their blog :)
[10:49] <macd> Kyral: w3c has nothing todo with the net, other than WEB standards
[10:50] <FisherP> may i point out that if the DOD were to get thier hands back on the net, things would be tighter controlled --- security reasons
[10:50] <Official_C> Kyral: i dont think i comrehend excatly what you are proposing people should be able to do
[10:50] <Kyral> jme__: I got one better, I got an email back from Senator Clinton (not one of the generic responses)
[10:50] <macd> the DoD has thier own network.
[10:50] <nnn0> they don't want "control" as in "do what ever you want", they only want to know what everyone is doing - it's like the cell phone, it's the biggest intelligence coup ever, everyone bugging themselves now ;)
[10:50] <Official_C> please describe exactly what kind of control you mean
[10:50] <jme__> Kyral: nice :)
[10:50] <Kyral> jme__: even better, she's on our side in the Net Neutrality war :D
[10:50] <FisherP> terrorism etc
[10:51] <jme__> Kyral: vote for her :)
[10:51] <FisherP> you wouldn't bew able to say bomb without some team smashing in doors
[10:51] <linuxmonkey> !offtopic
[10:51] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:51] <Kyral> Official_C: the war for Net Neutrality is basically some bozo in Congress proposed letting ISPs charge more for accessing other sites and whatnot
[10:51] <Official_C> shut up ubotu
[10:52] <Official_C> Kyral: charging more for accessing which sites??
[10:52] <Official_C> what kind of sites
[10:52] <FisherP> tt4n
[10:52] <Kyral> macd: I meant in that the W3C maintains the standards for HTML and whatnot. Even Microsoft has realized that they shouldn't try to pull Embrace, Extend, Estinguish
[10:52] <Kyral> Official_C: Whatever they wise
[10:52] <Kyral> err
[10:52] <Kyral> wish even
[10:53] <Kyral> like oh...COMPETITORS sites
[10:53] <Official_C> Kyral: that is the biggest mound of BS i've eveer heard
[10:53] <macd> Official_C: its true though.
[10:53] <macd> VOIP paved the way for this.
[10:53] <Kyral> http://www.savetheinternet.com/
[10:53] <Official_C> yeah, im not sayin hes lying or anything
[10:53] <nixternal> !offtopic
[10:53] <Official_C> just saying its BS
[10:53] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:53] <macd> it was only matter of time the carriers were going to realize people were saving more off thier broadband than they were paying
[10:54] <Official_C> what reason do they give to be able to charge more for access to  certain sites?
[10:54] <Official_C> i dont get it
[10:54] <nnn0> money ;)
[10:54] <Kyral> You can't stop this offtopic now :P
[10:55] <nnn0> hehe
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> Baseband is alot than broadband if you can set it up (does kubuntu support baseband modems ?)
[10:55] <macd> they dont need a reason, they own the network infrastructure
[10:55] <h3sp4wn> alot better sorry
[10:55] <jme__> Official_C: simple, people not paying them will have poor service, people paying them will have good service
[10:55] <Kyral> C'Mon this is a good discussion for once
[10:55] <Kyral> let us keep it going
[10:55] <linuxmonkey> Please move you discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:55] <jme__> yep and this is usefull and kinda related
[10:55] <nnn0> Hail Profit
[10:55] <Kyral> linuxmonkey: bah :P
[10:56] <nixternal> keep it going in another channel please. as this channel is logged and used to create support information. thank you
[10:56] <Kyral> oy...
[10:56] <jme__> ubuntu is defending the people to set them free from the big corporation
[10:56] <mindspit> is there a place with a very good manual on installing ubuntu and use it a ......... we bhosting solution ?
[10:56] <Official_C> jme: that could go on forever though
[10:56] <jme__> net neutrality has the same goal
[10:56] <Official_C> jme: prices would just snowball
[10:56] <Kyral> mindspit: www.howtoforge.net, search for "The Perfect Setup"
[10:56] <Official_C> under that reasoning
[10:56] <nixternal> mindspit: you can check out http://help.ubuntu.com but I have seen many articles at howtoforge ;)
[10:56] <nixternal> thx Kyral
[10:56] <Kyral> HowtoForge OWNS :D
[10:57] <nixternal> howtoforge has great Ubuntu server articles
[10:57] <jme__> Official_C: yep and they do reason it :) and see huge profit potential :)
[10:57] <mindspit> thanks guys!
[10:57] <nnn0> mindspit, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[10:57] <mindspit> for ubuntu_5.10 ... for 6.60 ?
[10:57] <Kyral> And even if they did get their way
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> mindspit: What sort of connection do you have ? you need at least SDSL to even think about hosting
[10:58] <Kyral> they forget that Hackers created the Net. We can make anotherone if we have to :P
[10:58] <Official_C> jme: correct me if im wrong (which i probably am) but are ISP's basically saying that they are tired of the communistic method of internet providing thats been going on?
[10:58] <nnn0> Kyral, :D
[10:58] <Kyral> *twitch* communist?
[10:59] <jme__> Official_C: not in this way but yes. they want to do more money
[10:59] <mindspit> that's true but we are greeks! :( and i just want ot learn how to administer a machine so i 'll get two or three dyndns.org accounts and go deep into apache!
[10:59] <Kyral> To qoute Bruce Parens
[10:59] <nnn0> most isp rent their lines
[10:59] <jme__> Official_C: obviously they dont realize this will kill the net too :)
[10:59] <Kyral> "Karl Marx did not invent 'helping your neighbor'"
[10:59] <nnn0> only a few players own the cables
[10:59] <Official_C> jme: yeah, it is unbelievably stupid...
[11:00] <Kyral> The Internet is, dare I say, the last true bastion of Freedom of Speech and Opinion
[11:00] <jme__> surprisingly the only way to save the net neutrality is to make it more profitable for the whole :)
[11:00] <nnn0> agree
[11:00] <Official_C> so what is Hilary Clinton trying to do?
[11:00] <linuxmonkey> ok please move your off topic (this is a support channel) to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <Kyral> Oh Clinton agreed with us :D
[11:00] <Official_C> jme: how would you do that?
[11:01] <nnn0> politicians are whores
[11:01] <Kyral> She just happened to be my senator and I emailed her with the issue (First time I actually bitched to a politican about something :D)
[11:01] <jme__> Official_C: well dunno :)
[11:01] <linuxmonkey> nnn0: watch the language
[11:01] <nnn0> well they are !
[11:01] <Kyral> I dispise Politics as much as the next guy
[11:01] <Kyral> but Senator Clinton earned my respect
[11:02] <Kyral> by siding with us
[11:02] <Kyral> MARCH ON WASHINGTON!!! :P
[11:02] <Official_C> hmm, this has been an interesting convo..but i gotta go eat...thx for the info
[11:02] <Official_C> peace
[11:02] <nnn0> they have no vision at all, just a big load of bull****
[11:02] <ru> whats the easiest way to upgrade to dapper from breezy using kubuntu?
[11:02] <Kyral> !upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[11:02] <Riddell-awa> Kyral: please stay on topic
[11:02] <Kyral> !botsnack
[11:02] <ubotu> thanks kyral :)
[11:02] <nixternal> Hey guys, I totally respect your rights to free speach, and I totally agree with pretty much everything you are saying, but could you please move to #kubuntu-offtopic or another location. I hate to do this more then the next guy, but we try to keep this channel open for tech support
[11:02] <ru> I just ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:03] <Kyral> Yah yah Riddell-awa
[11:03] <Kyral> sorry boss :D
[11:03] <ru> and my /proc/version = "ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8.1"
[11:03] <ru> I take it I didnt upgrade?
[11:03] <Kyral> that...means nothing
[11:03] <Kyral> ru: do cat /etc/issue
[11:03] <ru> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[11:03] <ru> damn
[11:03] <ru> thanks
[11:03] <ru> what repo should I add in my apt sources.list?
[11:04] <ru> And what command do I need to run to upgrade
[11:04] <Kyral> ubotu tell ru about upgrade
[11:05] <mindspit> how can i change  /etc/host to use a dyndns ip address and the known to me *.dyndns.org ????
[11:05] <Kyral> huh?
[11:06] <Kyral> You don't
[11:06] <Kyral> the DNS system just points to you
[11:06] <Kyral> you don't need to modify /etc/hosts
[11:06] <mindspit> ok... :(
[11:07] <mindspit> just to make it speed up when i call a local page!
[11:07] <jme__> ah ok
[11:07] <jme__> mindspit: just use 'localhost' and not the dyndns.org
[11:08] <jme__> if i understand what you mean :)
[11:08] <ru> downloading file 1 of 1397
[11:08] <ru> lol!
[11:08] <mindspit> thanks!
[11:08] <jme__> well you have to start somewhere :)
[11:09] <gilster> JavaByte: thanks
[11:09] <gilster> much appreciated
[11:09] <gilster> have to run
[11:09] <gilster> adios
[11:10] <mindspit> how can i store the ":syn on" in vi(m) when opening a new file ?
[11:11] <jme__> mindspit: just a little advice, you will get better help by trying to express yourself more clearly
[11:12] <gilster> thanls
[11:17] <mindspit> how can i make vi to execute automaticly the ":syn on" (make markup/use colors of the file ) in vi(m) whenever i open a file in it?
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> mindspit: You can do source /usr/share/vim/current/syntax/perl.vim or such lines in .vimrc
[11:19] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/share/vim/vim64/syntax/perl.vim (it would be on kubuntu)
[11:22] <beavis> after installing a mouse theme from .home , can i remove the .zip theme od do i have to keep it there ?
[11:23] <nixternal> if you imported the theme beavis then yes you can remove it...if you want to be sure, just move it to another area first...if it doesn't break...then you can remove it
[11:23] <beavis> nixternal: ok ty
[11:23] <nixternal> np
[11:24] <mindspit> i did a new file named /home/mindspit/.vimrc and added the following line ":syn on"  ... it works ! thanks again!
[11:28] <mindspit> i love kubuntu :) !!! the only problem i cannot fix is my usb pc web camera named Qcam ... :(
[11:29] <beavis> yeah kubuntu rocks
[11:29] <BoD[] > Hi !
[11:29] <beavis> my webcam works but its pretty bad compared to windows driver
[11:29] <beavis> hi
[11:29] <BoD[] > Hey does anybody know about the message "The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly" when booting?
[11:30] <BoD[] > I mean right after bootink
[11:30] <BoD[] > g
[11:30] <beavis> is your system overclocked?
[11:30] <BoD[] > nop
[11:30] <BoD[] > it seems to be a kde message
[11:31] <beavis> dont know , im new to linux
[11:32] <jme__> what would be a 'system protocol' ?
[11:34] <BoD[] > good question
[11:35] <jme__> is this the exact text displayed ?
[11:35] <jme__> if so you can google for it
[11:35] <jme__> and see what is popping up
[11:36] <jme__> my advice would first to understand who generate this unclear message
[11:36] <jme__> to me, this seems like a deamon which died
[11:36] <bioticpro> Hello all, Im trying to setup ntpdate to connect to time server upon dialup net connection only, can anyone help with this?
[11:36] <jme__> a deamon doing 'system protocol' :)
[11:37] <jme__> ntpdate pool.ntp.org <- is the command to run
[11:37] <jme__> then where to put it
[11:37] <jme__> i dont have any kubuntu running now...
[11:38] <BoD[] > i googled for it, only one answer wich was a bug entry :)
[11:38] <jme__> but putting this line in /etc/ppp/ip-up
[11:38] <BoD[] > with no fix of course
[11:38] <jme__> or /etc/ppp/ip-up.local seem the way to go
[11:38] <jme__> BoD[] :  :) who generated the message
[11:40] <bioticpro> thx jme__ , will try that now
[11:40] <BoD[] > jme__: no idea
[11:40] <jme__> BoD[] : aahh this is a kio stuff
[11:41] <jme__> for system:/
[11:41] <BoD[] > ahh hrmm .. hmm?
[11:41] <BoD[] >  :)
[11:41] <BoD[] > </noclue>
[11:42] <jme__> me neither :)
[11:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > anyone have any luck running winamp with wine on kubuntu?
[11:42] <jme__> BoD[] : but now i know who generated the message and why it looks so vague :)
[11:44] <bioticpro> jme__: how do I get around this? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 18 15:25:07 2006
[11:44] <jme__> bioticpro: you reboot :)
[11:45] <bioticpro> jme__: btw, I didn't have a ip-up.local, just ip-up and ip-up.d
[11:46] <jme__> bioticpro: did ip-up worked ?
[11:47] <beavis> i like my font size with konquerer to be Ctrl++ , how can i det that exact size to use as default?
[11:47] <gilster> i have set up my GL properly and all and i still  have problems with my screensavers
[11:47] <gilster> any help?
[11:48] <beavis> did you install the video driver for you card?
[11:48] <jme__> bioticpro: if it dont try putting 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org' in a file called say 'my_ntpdate' in ip-up.d
[11:48] <gilster> its an onboard intel915
[11:49] <jme__> beavis: there are some option for this in the preference setting. look to font. i dunno the exact menu
[11:49] <bioticpro> jme__: ok, I will have to reboot first though, since I can't sudo right now
[11:49] <jme__> bioticpro: ok.
[11:50] <jme__> bioticpro: playing with 'touch' in /var/run/sudo/ may fix the sudo future date
[11:50] <Chi> hello all
[11:51] <gilster> do i need to install drivers for an intel915 onboard card
[11:51] <Chi> I need help w/ my wifi card can any one help me out?
[11:52] <gilster> hello?
[11:52] <bioticpro> jme__: not sure what you mean...
[11:53] <Chi> well my card doesn't work at all
[11:53] <Chi> the light don't work on it & i can't get on the net w/ it
[11:54] <jme__> bioticpro: in the /var/run/sudo directory, do you see a file or directory called 'bioticpro' or whatever is your username on kubuntu
[11:54] <Chi> chi
[11:54] <bioticpro> jme__: cd /var/run/sudo-bash: cd: /var/run/sudo: Permission denied
[11:55] <jme__> ah yeah :)
[11:55] <jme__> bioticpro: you need to be root for that :)
[11:55] <jme__> bioticpro: ok so reboot it would be easier
[11:56] <bioticpro> jme__: so looks like a reboot...
[11:56] <slow-motion> n8
[11:56] <bioticpro> jme__: I am remoting into someones dialup connected box, so reboot will loose connection, I'll just have to call them and have them reconnect
[11:57] <gilster> ok let me rephrase..i have an intel 915 card that is picked up as i810 is this normal
[11:57] <jme__> bioticpro: oh. so lets try something else
[11:57] <gilster> yes...i am a noob
[11:57] <jme__> bioticpro: do 'su -' press enter and then type your root password
[11:57] <Chi> does any one know how to setup a dlink "DWL-G650M" wifi pcmcia card?
[11:58] <jme__> bioticpro: i hope you already created a root password :)
[11:59] <lime4x4> well my kubuntu box won't let be today..lol  I get the logon screen and type my password then i get a black screen and i'm brought back to the login screen
[11:59] <bioticpro> jme__: won't that activate the root acount?  I have it currently disabled...
[11:59] <jme__> bioticpro: if you do you can avoid the reboot/call yourfirend cycle
[11:59] <bioticpro> jme__: thats cool, I'll just reboot, Ive had major problems using root before in kubuntu
[11:59] <jme__> bioticpro: ah ok. no it would just use the root account. and wont work if it not already activated
[11:59] <jme__> bioticpro: ok
[12:00] <bioticpro> jme__: thx for the help, ttyl :)
[12:00] <jme__> bioticpro: my pleasure
[12:00] <jme__> going to game now
[12:01] <lime4x4> any ideas where to start looking?
[12:01] <jme__> lime4x4: nope but doesnt look good
[12:01] <jme__> ok off
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> 2.6.17 seems to not like the udev in dapper
[12:02] <lime4x4> well i can log in thru console thou