[12:00] <stian> Hey, I just loaded a hd installed with ubuntu-server onto a new computer, only things that remain the same from the old computer is HD, CPU and NIC, new is hk, ram and the rest is buildt in on hk
[12:00] <DESiBELi> nevermind.. i installed firestarter
[12:00] <stian> So, everything works, except the NIC isn't displaying
[12:00] <stian> Anyone got any suggestions?
[12:00] <udo> how can i test speakers?
[12:01] <igorzolnikov> i have equals error
[12:01] <Jowi> udo: "speaker-test"
[12:01] <Sjoerd-> sudo apt-get install won't work without internet connection, right?
[12:01] <stian> igorzolnikov, equals error?
[12:01] <igorzolnikov> yes
[12:01] <crimsun> Sjoerd-: depends if you have the cdrom source active and have the cdrom mounted.
[12:01] <N9URK> BioVorE: I have never really used a Linux desktop.  I have done everything from the command line, so I don't really know how good it is. but since you know, I will just edit it by hand
[12:01] <stian> Sjoerd unless you install from the cdrom
[12:01] <N9URK> BioVorE: much easier that way
[12:01] <zx8> hi
[12:01] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, that is not right in english, do you mean the same error, or something else?
[12:01] <Azi_Dahaka> is the issue with the broadcomm wireless nic solved on dapper ?
[12:02] <Sjoerd-> Alright, how do I force it to install from cd-rom? Or will that be automatically done?
[12:02] <zx8> can anyone reccomend a good web host to me?
[12:02] <BioVorE> N9URK: I am a command line rat here..  you can do so much from it you can't do in a gui enviroment
[12:02] <exhale> does anyone run ubuntu dapper on a nforce4 based mobo?
[12:03] <skavenge> disable the internet repositories and just keep the cdrom on the list is one way ...
[12:03] <Zambezi> Anyone using Thunderbird to download POP3-mail?
[12:04] <folkert> just installed
[12:04] <folkert> so if you have a sec
[12:04] <ompaul> Zambezi, lots of people do
[12:04] <Zambezi> folkert, Of course.
[12:04] <Sjoerd-> is network manger on the ubuntu cd-rom?
[12:05] <N9URK> BioVorE: THanks for all of your help
[12:05] <Zambezi> ompaul, But noone answer my questions.
[12:06] <ompaul> Zambezi, that was not a useful question, the real question is? (and put it all on one line thanks)
[12:06] <leafw> I have multiverse and universe enabled, how come I can't find the flashplugin-nonfree ?
[12:06] <obsidians> Hey! My laptop seems to be getting really hot, and doesn't seem to be turning the fan on.  What should I look at?
[12:07] <dooglus> Zambezi: which question do you want to ask?
[12:07] <Zambezi> ompaul, The question is: There should I put the backup from TB Windows. In "Local folders" or in "pop3.account.com"?
[12:07] <locust|> Jowi: You still around? (:
[12:07] <ompaul> leafw, after you included them did you do this: sudo apt-get update?
[12:07] <Zambezi> dooglus, The question is: There should I put the backup from TB Windows. In "Local folders" or in "pop3.account.com"?
[12:07] <leafw> ompaul: sorry, I just checked and the multiverse is not enabled
[12:07] <linuxuser> how would i get cups to work correctly with my hp1020 printer, cups does see the printer, but no test pages make it to the printer
[12:07] <ompaul> Zambezi, I know nothing of windows at all, sorry
[12:08] <raldi_> How do i install mplayer on Ubuntu? I've uncommented everything in sources.list, but i still get "E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate"
[12:08] <ompaul> Zambezi, as in I don't run it at all and have avodied it for years
[12:08] <Zambezi> ompaul, Don't care about Windows in this matter.
[12:08] <dooglus> Zambezi: it doesn't matter.
[12:08] <dooglus> Zambezi: it depends whether you want it to be in the shared 'local folders' or in the per-account folder
[12:09] <Zambezi> dooglus: But what if I get another POP3-mail?
[12:09] <linuxuser> anybody know why cups sees my hp 1020 laser jet but will not print to it?
[12:09] <dooglus> Zambezi: I would suggest just using 'local folders' for everything, unless you have a good reason for wanting to keep mail from different accounts separate
[12:09] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless card?
[12:09] <jockey23> Hi I have a Xgl/compiz problem... can someone plz help me?
[12:09] <Zambezi> dooglus: But I probably be better to put it in the pop3-folder if I get another mail? I guess.
[12:10] <dooglus> Zambezi: make a new folder, ending with .sbd, and stick the windows backup in there
[12:10] <ube> how do you start ubuntu in command line mode?
[12:10] <dooglus> ube: remove gdm from the runlevel you're booting into.
[12:10] <skavenge> initab edit, run level 3 i believe
[12:10] <locust|> I've just attempted to upgrade Hoary to Dapper. It seemed the install went okay, but when I restarted, I was having problems starting X. The screen would flash a few times and give me a dialogue stating that there is a problem with the X server and asks if I'd like to diagnose the problem, but at that point, the screen freezes, so I can't select yes or no. I've tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but that didn't help anyth
[12:10] <locust|> ing at all. Any other ideas as to what the problem could be?
[12:10] <ube> dooglus: thanks
[12:10] <ube> skavenge: thanks
[12:11] <dooglus> ube: you can do it using 'bum' or sysv-rc-conf
[12:11] <ube> oh. i dont know how to do that
[12:11] <Spec> Does 3d accel work well with nVidia's GeForce 7xxx?
[12:12] <obsidians> Hey! My laptop seems to be getting really hot, and doesn't seem to be turning the fan on.  What should I look at?
[12:12] <Spec> obsidians acpi probably
[12:12] <ompaul> ube, it is runlevel 2
[12:12] <obsidians> Spec: I had a look at that..... it seems to be in passive mode, and doesn't have an active mode at all, for some reason.
[12:12] <ompaul> but
[12:12] <ube> ompaul: for command line?
[12:13] <ompaul> ube, you need to stop X to do this
[12:13] <Hoxzer> do u guys want to tell me one thing
[12:13] <ube> the default runlevel is at 2
[12:13] <ompaul> you can for a one time stop do >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop <<
[12:13] <Hoxzer> Like everytime I get to argue with somebody :/
[12:13] <Hoxzer> That guy hates me rest of his life
[12:13] <locust|> I guess I'll try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187177
[12:13] <jockey23> xgl worked fine in dapper beta, but now I can't get it to run
[12:14] <Hoxzer> Like ISN'T one argue pretty normal
[12:14] <Hoxzer> but everybody hates me after argue
[12:14] <Zambezi> ompaul, You seems to be a very knowledge guy *sucking up* Is it possible that you explain for me why two packages won't be installed with you get ther errormessages in a pastebin?
[12:14] <Hoxzer> like A LONG TIME
[12:14] <Spec> Hoxzer #ubuntu-oftopic
[12:14] <Spec> offtopic*
[12:14] <ompaul> Hoxzer, GET on topic please - this is not a chat channel it is a support channel
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: this isn't a counselling channel :)
[12:15] <ompaul> Zambezi, tell people in the channel what the pastebin url is
[12:15] <Spec> ompaul: why doesn't anybody like me? :-/
[12:15] <ompaul> ube, sorry, distracted, do this before you stop X install "bum"
[12:15] <folkert> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:15] <Hoxzer> sry, guys but normal Finnish people gather to secret mating places at this time of day but I'm nolife -> so I try get my social saticfaction from else where
[12:15] <ompaul> ube, use it to stop "gdm" when your finished
[12:15] <Zambezi> ompaul, Two seconds.
[12:16] <ube> ompaul: okay. i'll try
[12:16] <alexi5> hello
[12:16] <ompaul> ube, then you restart it and it is not there, to run it again (write this down) >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start <<
[12:16] <alexi5> what packaged do i have to install to get the c compiler and header files
[12:17] <Zambezi> ompaul, I need to translate the text to English berfore I paste it here.
[12:17] <dooglus> alexi5: "build-essential"
[12:17] <alexi5> ok
[12:17] <ompaul> Zambezi, take your time
[12:18] <folkert> ompaul the url i pasted was to the pastebin ;)
[12:18] <Spec> So, if I was gonna get a video card, and definitely wanted XGL/compiz to be good to me, would you suggest nVidia or ATI?
[12:18] <Spec> oo, gotta go, nvidia it is :p
[12:18] <Azi_Dahaka> is the issue with the broadcomm wireless nic solved on dapper ?
[12:19] <Spec> !bcm43xx
[12:19] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[12:19] <Spec> Azi_Dahaka ^^
[12:19] <skavenge> argh no disk drive on this laptop i dont see how i'm going to get my wireless nic running if i need extra drivers for ndiswrapper ... *sigh*
[12:19] <ompaul> folkert, many people post in different pastebins - so let us wait
[12:20] <ompaul> Spec, there is no good or bad there - ati users are the only ones I have seen in real life
[12:20] <folkert> oh sorry it's the dutch bin
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> sudo: ./Makefile: command not found
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> how can i get it to work
[12:21] <ompaul> folkert, anyone can use it
[12:21] <Sjoerd-> hello, i'm trying to install network manager for gnome. I don't have an internet connection yet and it does not appear to be on the ubuntu cd-rom.
[12:21] <ompaul> folkert,  if someone wants help I want a url that is unique to them
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> How do I install it in another way?
[12:22] <folkert> yes okay i get it now thank you
[12:22] <james_xxx> would it be advisable to put ubuntu on a P3 @ 500Mhz w/256MB ram?
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> depends on what you want to do with it james_xxx
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> it will work fine though
[12:22] <james_xxx> why would it depend?
[12:22] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, from the menu, System ->  administration -> networking that should be there
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> it would work as a webserver or for desktop work, not for gaming
[12:22] <james_xxx> will it lack some functionality?
[12:23] <andreasdk> How do I choose the printer in AcroRead?
[12:23] <james_xxx> ok i am not a gamer
[12:23] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Why should it be there?
[12:23] <ompaul> james_xxx, that would be great as xubuntu and it would work as ubuntu
[12:23] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, cos that is how it is in ubuntu this being the ubuntu help channel
[12:24] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, unless there is special info you are keeping from me ;-)
[12:24] <Sjoerd-> I think there is a misunderstanding here, I am trying to install network mangere for gnome, so I can use a network with wpa encryption
[12:24] <ompaul> ahh
[12:24] <ompaul> !wireless
[12:24] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:24] <ompaul> !wpasuplicant
[12:24] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[12:25] <ompaul> ubotu, yes
[12:25] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, ompaul?
[12:25] <folkert> james_xxx see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182951
[12:25] <andreasdk> How do I select a printer in AcreRead?
[12:25] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: My network card is detected and work fine, problem is that ubuntu doesn't seem to support wpa native. I need network manager for that, but I have no idea how to install it.
[12:25] <dylan_> does the non-free repository refer to proprietary software?
[12:26] <futlib> hi, I'm using ubuntu on my laptop, and the hotkeys are all supported in gnome, but not in kde or xfce4. how can I change that? I think "hotkey-setup" is the key package
[12:26] <thoreauputic> dylan_: patent encumbered etc
[12:26] <BioVorE> andreasdk: acroread uses lpd to print.. so you'll have to figure out what the thing is..  normal just use lp
[12:26] <keaton> Hey guys, I've got a live cd issue on an apple G3.
[12:26] <dylan_> thoreauputic, do you recommend i use it?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dylan_: from a philosophical or practical viewpoint? :)
[12:27] <ompaul>  Sjoerd- in synaptic install   network-manager-gnome
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dylan_: from a practical viewpoint, sure
[12:27] <dylan_> thoreauputic, what would somebody who supports open source say?
[12:27] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Synaptic install?
[12:27] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless card?
[12:27] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, menu System Administration Synaptic Package Manager
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dylan_: well, it depends on how Free you want to be really
[12:27] <dooglus> dylan_: open source people generally don't care too much about freedom
[12:28] <futlib> anyone?
[12:28] <dylan_> thoreauputic, is there a difference between open and free?  so are you telling me you can have a proprietary open source app?
[12:28] <keaton> I boot from disk, and everything loads up just fine, just like it should, until it gets up to where the splash screen should be and the video craps out. I can hear to login sound but the screen turns off. Any solutions?
[12:28] <ompaul> futlib, you could wait a while please
[12:28] <ompaul> !patience
[12:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[12:28] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Ah, problem is that it doesn't seem to be on the cd and I don't have internet access. If you are sure about it should be there though, I will go and check. Have to reboot and start Ubuntu :)
[12:28] <futlib> ompaul, roger that
[12:28] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, it is in main and so should be there
[12:28] <thoreauputic> dylan_: umm - look at the package licenses and copyrights and make up your own mind, I guess
[12:29] <dooglus> dylan_: the difference between 'open source' and 'free software': http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[12:29] <knight488> how do you browse memory cards?
[12:29] <Sjoerd-> Ok thank you ompaul, will be back soon :)
[12:29] <Jowi> keaton: if you hear a sound that means that xorg is configured ok. try turning off framebuffer in either bios or in grub
[12:29] <keaton> mmkay, do you have a specific command for that? This is my friends computer, so I'll need to write it down.
[12:29] <ompaul> futlib, that has to be a question for #kubuntu and #xubuntu
[12:30] <futlib>  allright. thanks
[12:30] <ompaul> cheers
[12:30] <Jowi> keaton: sure do. when you see all the different boot stuff in grub, press "e" to edit the line. selcect the "kernel" line and press "e" again. add "vga=normal" press enter then "b" to boot.
[12:31] <ompaul> Jowi, got a wiki account?
[12:31] <keaton> Thanks, man, I owe ya one.
[12:31] <Jowi> keaton: this will *not* alter anything. it is just a one-time deal
[12:31] <yUSiyEEE> anyone install win+ubuntu on the same machine?
[12:31] <Jowi> ompaul: sure do :) wrote a dri kernel compile for the via epia chipset 6 months ago
[12:32] <ompaul> Jowi, can you add that with anything else that makes sense to you to BootOptions
[12:32] <Jowi> ompaul: it's not in the grub howto?
[12:32] <Blue89> why doesn't ubuntu allow me to "sudo cp" my cdrom block device into a file?
[12:32] <ompaul> Jowi, this is a little more evil ;-)
[12:33] <Jowi> ompaul: should I create a new article or modify an existing one?
[12:33] <Zambezi> ompaul, Don't make fun of my. I'm having difficulties with my English. I left the original messages if you might recocnize it when the translation is bad. http://pastebin.com/715565
[12:33] <Zambezi> I need help solving this: http://pastebin.com/715565
[12:33] <ompaul> Jowi, there should really be a unified boot process page but I think that would live on wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions for the moment
[12:33] <your_mom> i need some help i tried to do a fresh install of dapper, and now it wont load it says error 17 on grub cant mount any help
[12:34] <your_mom> i have tried installing it 5-6t times each time no luck
[12:34] <Jowi> ompaul: will have a look. brb
[12:34] <ompaul> Zambezi, dutch?
[12:34] <Zambezi> ompaul, Swedish.
[12:35] <ompaul> Zambezi, try #ubuntu-se
[12:35] <ompaul> :-)
[12:35] <ompaul> Zambezi, let me see if I can see what the issue is
[12:35] <leafw> manymore: sudo apt-get install flasplugin-nonfree  downloads all dependencies and the package itself, but then it never returns when it says "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ..
[12:35] <leafw> any clue on what is up? Which log to look up?
[12:35] <Zambezi> ompaul, I'm already there, but there's too few.
[12:35] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Sorry, it's not in the list - for me. Is it for you?
[12:35] <knight488> what the command for mounting my memory stick reader?
[12:35] <crimsun> leafw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh flashplugin-nonfree
[12:36] <Jowi> Zambezi: you don't have the correct password to the OB archives it seems (no idea what that means).
[12:36] <neutrinomass> crimsun: Hi. I pinged you earlier. I've got this sound problem with a friend's computer - everything seems OK but no sound plays, any hints on what might be wrong ?
[12:36] <leafw> crimsun : ok, let me see this phigh
[12:36] <croesus> is there anything like fedora's "Security Level Configuration Tool" for ubuntu?  I'm not wanting the selinux component...just a radio capability to shut down/open certain ports to the outside world....I've been using firestarter but I want something I can show complete noobs.
[12:36] <your_mom> any help on my problem?
[12:36] <Bassetts> is tcl installed by default in ubuntu?
[12:37] <crimsun> neutrinomass: that's much too vague to be useful, not to mention the utter lack of details necessary to troubleshoot.
[12:37] <neutrinomass> crimsun: Was in Breezy and it worked fine with Suse....
[12:37] <ompaul> Zambezi, is appears the issue is here  Configure myth-datab however I don't have mythtv so I have no idea now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythTV  it may give some ideas version numbers will be different
[12:37] <leafw> crimsun : /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: flashplugin-nonfree is broken or not fully installed
[12:37] <leafw> crimsun : although, all pkgs claim to be installed
[12:37] <hangfire> your mom, what does the partition look like when you go on live ubuntu?
[12:37] <neutrinomass> crimsun: Yeah, I just want tips on what might be wrong. I think it was an allegro card. Nothing was muted, volumes were up, cabling ok and stuff apparently played ...
[12:37] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, yes, which is why I said that
[12:38] <crimsun> leafw: did you use apt-get/aptitude or Synaptic to install it?
[12:38] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Strange...
[12:38] <leafw> crimsun : apt-get
[12:38] <crimsun> leafw: sudo apt-get --remove purge flashplugin-nonfree
[12:38] <crimsun> leafw: then use Synaptic to install it
[12:38] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: I used the search and looked for network manager, it only found something for pcmcia cards
[12:38] <leafw> crimsun: ok, clear and reinstall ...
[12:39] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, well i got it from main - can you see  wpasupplicant - Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
[12:39] <hangfire> hey your mom
[12:39] <leafw> that is --purge remove, right
[12:39] <Ayabara> where does gnome-btdownload put the .torrent files by default?
[12:39] <Tedd> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.amxmodx.org
[12:39] <Bassetts> how do you search from terminal?
[12:39] <Tedd> THIS PAGE IS NOT VALID HTML
[12:39] <Tedd> Oops.
[12:39] <Tedd> Wrong channel.
[12:39] <racter> Bassetts: locate
[12:39] <crimsun> neutrinomass: "tips"? There are a half billion tips that /may/ be relevant. I need specifics like driver, amixer output, lspci -v output, ...
[12:39] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Ah I thought it was just called network manager, let me have a look (rebooting again)
[12:39] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: thanks!
[12:39] <Bassetts> racter: it doesnt find the file though
[12:40] <Bassetts> racter: and i know its there
[12:40] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, network-manager-gnome
[12:40] <racter> Bassetts: you may need to rebuild the locate database with sudo locate -u
[12:40] <neutrinomass> crimsun: OK. I'll try the Dapper cd and report back. Thanks :)
[12:40] <ompaul> Tedd, don't bring attention on yourself ;-)
[12:40] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: There is no network-manager-gnome in the list.
[12:40] <Tedd> ompaul, whoops. :P
[12:40] <Bassetts> ill try that racter
[12:40] <ompaul> sjoerd  network-manager
[12:40] <curley_sue> hallo, I just received an MP4 player. It did not come with any clear instructions and I can't find any tool to upload songs... any managers?
[12:40] <ompaul> ahh
[12:41] <knight488> anyone know how to mount a SD card reader?
[12:41] <konfuzed> hey there a quick question about bios settings.  Should Plug and Play AWARE OS be on or off ??
[12:41] <keaton> While I'm here, I've got another question.
[12:41] <lwizardl> hi
[12:41] <keaton> You guys know how I can mount my PSP?
[12:41] <crimsun> neutrinomass: just to speed things along, what I need is the output from ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer'' pastebinned
[12:41] <leafw> crimsun : it's stuck at the same place. I suspect the file is never downloaded from the macromedia website
[12:41] <Bassetts> i need libtcl.so, what package gives me that?
[12:42] <leafw> Bassetts : apt-file search libtcl.so
[12:42] <kobun> i need some help i tried to do a fresh install of dapper, and now it wont load it says error 17 on grub cant mount any help
[12:42] <konfuzed> BasL, tcl/tkl or is that tkl/tcl
[12:42] <crimsun> leafw: and you chose the option to install from the Internet, correct?
[12:42] <Bassetts> thanks leafw
[12:42] <leafw> crimsun : correct.
[12:42] <lib8264q> can someone help with a ? .... i downloaded the dvd .iso and have a server install  i wanted to put the desktop on but when i use the command it says please place cd number xxxxxxxxx.2 in cd rom ??? anyone know which version this is would have thought the dvd would have had everthing on it
[12:42] <curley_sue> anyone knows j
[12:43] <leafw> crimsun : so I won't next time. Now I have to kill synaptic
[12:43] <neutrinomass> crimsun: OK. I'm not at my friend's house now - I was asking because everything I tried had failed. If it doesn't work, I'll pastebin anything you need. Once again, thanks !
[12:43] <curley_sue> anyone knows how to use an mp4 player with ubuntu?
[12:43] <crimsun> leafw: well, let's choose the local download option after you manually grab the tar.gz
[12:43] <konfuzed> lib8264q, what happens if you just hit enter and pretend the disk is already in the drive?
[12:43] <ompaul> !repeat
[12:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.
[12:43] <lib8264q> nope dosent work
[12:43] <leafw> crimsun : on the wya
[12:43] <crimsun> leafw: so yes, close Synaptic, purge flashplugin-nonfree, and reinstall it. First you need to download the tar.gz
[12:44] <ompaul> curley_sue, please read that last message by ubotu thanks
[12:44] <Bassetts> leafw: that returns nothing
[12:44] <UKMatt> I'm trying to load a DVD onto my comp through Ubuntu.. does anyone know of a program that can decode it so that I can download through Acid?
[12:45] <lib8264q> keeps asking for cd which happens to be the name   and realse date.2 ?????
[12:45] <leafw> crimsun : where should the tar.gz go, to which folder should I put it
[12:45] <crimsun> leafw: doesn't really matter, since you can point to it
[12:45] <lib8264q> have used sudo aptidute install ubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <knight488> so no one knows how to make my SD card reader kick on?
[12:45] <konfuzed> does ubuntu care if the bios is set to 'plug and play aware OS' turned on or off
[12:45] <konfuzed> knight488, is it USB?
[12:46] <bcnewman> is there a gnome equivilent of ksnapshot ?
[12:46] <UKMatt> does anyone have any idea how to do that?
[12:46] <knight488> konfuzed no, internal, I'm on my laptop
[12:46] <leafw> crimsun: ok
[12:46] <lib8264q> gclipper
[12:46] <cprog> hello all, is there any settings i can change so that i can connect to a box running XGL through VNC, but without VNC trying to use XGL?
[12:46] <keaton> bcnewman: yeah, it should be under the System menu
[12:46] <lib8264q> gnoime version
[12:46] <crimsun> leafw: as a note, both the US and Europe mirrors seem broken atm
[12:46] <konfuzed> knight488, then its most likely a matter of mounting the disk
[12:47] <Bassetts> anyone know?
[12:47] <knight488> konfuzed, know what the default device it should be listed as is so I could try to mount?
[12:47] <leafw> crimsun : I suspected so
[12:48] <whayworth> leafw + crimsun:  if you're referring to the mirror for flashplugin-nonfree from Macromedia, I can wget the .tar.gz from there
[12:48] <whayworth> as in it's reachable
[12:48] <whayworth> and can download
[12:48] <crimsun> whayworth: it's broken for many people, depending on route
[12:48] <lib8264q> can anyone help with my ?
[12:48] <whayworth> ah; figures
[12:48] <crimsun> I'm --purging to walk you guys through this.
[12:48] <konfuzed> knight488, dmesg | grep (brand name of drive device)     should give you the device name aswell
[12:48] <ProN00b> does anyone know a program that gives you a tv guide thingy ?
[12:48] <leafw> whayworth : I just got it from the adobe/macromedia website
[12:48] <keaton> Yo, does anyone know how to mount a PSP?
[12:49] <leafw> whayworth : but thanks!
[12:49] <whayworth> leafw:  as in fpdownload.macromedia.com?  you're welcome, by the way
[12:49] <bcnewman> keaton: a screen capture tool? (I'm running 6.06 BTW)
[12:49] <UKMatt> I'm trying to load a DVD onto my comp through Ubuntu.. does anyone know of a program that can decode it so that I can download through Acid?
[12:50] <Sjoerd-> Does anyone know how to install Network Manager or get a WPA wireless connection running?
[12:50] <whayworth> Sjoerd:  yes
[12:50] <whayworth> I just solved that this morning with an ipw2100
[12:50] <whayworth> one moment, I'll fetch the URL of the page that was very helpful
[12:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[12:50] <keaton> bcnewman: Maybe it's not there in 6.06, I'm running 5.10. Under the System menu there should be "Take Screenshot..."
[12:51] <Bassetts> how is the password change in terminal?
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> General 6.06 - HOWTO: NetworkManager with WPA 1&2 Support
[12:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Is it possible to get kernel 2.6.15 for breezy?
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> that thread?
[12:51] <zybrid> how do i replace my mysql5 with mysql4.1 ? i have lamp installed. apt-get remove mysql-server doesnt seem to work
[12:51] <crimsun> leafw: ``sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'' should pop up a dialogue box asking whether you want to download the plugin from the Internet. Choose 'no'.
[12:51] <Ayabara> I have an inspiron laptop, and I think the fan is running louder in ubuntu than in xp. something I haven't configured maybe?
[12:51] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/
[12:51] <leafw> crimsun : I said 'no'. Now I'm fighting nautilus to show me the file (never used gnome before)
[12:51] <skavenge> Bassetts; passwd
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Alright let met have a look, thanks!
[12:51] <Bassetts> thanks
[12:51] <whayworth> Sjored-:  no problem!
[12:51] <crimsun> leafw: it's much easier from a Terminal.
[12:51] <crimsun> leafw: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[12:52] <knight488> hm I don't know the brand actualy...
[12:52] <lwizardl> hi can someone help me with static ips
[12:52] <leafw> crimsun : indeed, but the donwloaded file seems to vanish, because it's untarred
[12:52] <Ayabara> anyone here using truecrypt?
[12:52] <bcnewman> keaton: I don't see that, but thanks for looking into it for me. I know that the print screen key works, but I like the extra functionality that something like ksnapshot adds
[12:52] <leafw> crimsun : I see, "save to disk" xD
[12:52] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: The sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome doesn't work for me
[12:52] <crimsun> leafw: yes, choose Save to disk
[12:52] <whayworth> really?
[12:52] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I have no internet connection
[12:53] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I'll try to give you the package, if you'd like
[12:53] <whayworth> sorry for assuming that you did
[12:53] <keaton> bcnewman: you're welcome
[12:53] <leafw> crimsun : ok, now, update-flashplugin ..
[12:53] <dropdrive> is it possible to send keystrokes to gnome-terminal with, say, the mouse thumb buttons (6 and 7)?
[12:53] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: It's ok, it is an option to make my router on WEP and then try to connect and get the network-manager package.
[12:54] <whayworth> you're sure?
[12:54] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Maybe that would be the best way, I already downloaded the installation package but I have no idea how to install it.
[12:54] <konfuzed> knight488, what does SD stand for again
[12:54] <crimsun> leafw: sudo update-flashplugin --local-file $dir
[12:54] <UKMatt> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:54] <UKMatt> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:54] <UKMatt> is only available from another source
[12:54] <UKMatt> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[12:54] <zybrid> how do i replace my mysql5 with mysql4.1 ? i have lamp installed. apt-get remove mysql-server doesnt seem to work.
[12:54] <whayworth> Sjored-:  would dpkg -i work?
[12:54] <Ayabara> I want to encrypt my external harddrive. anyone got any other suggestions than truecrypt?
[12:54] <larson9999> sudo cd /mnt/win_c gives> sudo: cd: command not found  what's up with that?
[12:54] <rogy> i dont have premission to extract a file to /opt , what should i do?
[12:54] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: What is it?
[12:54] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg | grep SD
[12:54] <gnomefreak> rogy: use sudo
[12:55] <crimsun> leafw: where $dir is the directory containing the .tar.gz
[12:55] <whayworth> the dpkg command; installs a package
[12:55] <rogy> hmm, im a newbie :(
[12:55] <skavenge> my sd slot doesnt work at all according to the wiki/supported hardware on my laptop so that might be an issue as well
[12:55] <leafw> crimsun : yes, but a '.' didn't work ... needed ~/Desktop/ (go figure)
[12:55] <leafw> crimsun: it's in now, let's test it
[12:55] <knight488> sandisk
[12:55] <knight488> k trying...
[12:55] <whayworth> sorry, all:  I'll prefix all my responses with $username from now on
[12:55] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg | grep sandisk
[12:56] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I have no idea, whould I try it? Or just use WEP to get the package and then upgrade to WPA
[12:56] <leafw> works. Thanks crimsun (in fbsd I never got it to work)
[12:56] <crimsun> leafw: np.
[12:56] <konfuzed> WEP sucks
[12:56] <knight488> konfuzed hm nothing...
[12:56] <skavenge> sandisk makes the cards, not the reader most likely in a laptop for sure
[12:56] <konfuzed> the FBI has a video showing people how to by pass WEP in under 5 minutes
[12:57] <curley_sue> anyone knows how to use an mp4 player with ubuntu?
[12:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Can I upgrade the kernel in breezy to 2.6.15?  I'm trying to get pptp/VPN working reliably, and the HowTo's that I have seen say to use 2.6.15.  Currenty I have 2.6.12.
[12:57] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I thought you had said that you already downloaded the pckage
[12:57] <Sjoerd-> konfuzed: I know any noob can crack WEP
[12:57] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg | grep SanDisk   or SAN    or just disk   or maybe even disk
[12:57] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  in that case, you could use dpkg -i
[12:57] <konfuzed> uh maybe even disc
[12:57] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  otherwise, you should downgrade to WEP for the five minutes it will take, AirSnort risk or not
[12:57] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Yes I have this on my harddrive: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/NetworkManager-0.6.3.tar.gz
[12:58] <Rhisc> hi
[12:58] <troutface> Hello. I'm working from Xubuntu livecd (6.06 daily build) Why is the hdd installer crashing?? Anyone?
[12:58] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  all right!
[12:58] <liquiem> troutface: because it doesnt like you
[12:58] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  then I think you should be able to "dpkg -i" it
[12:58] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I  have read the readme and try to install, but didn't get it to work
[12:58] <leafw> by the way, java 1.5.0_07 gets terribly stuck at repainting every time I switch desktop.
[12:58] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, go to packages.ubuntu.com and get the real one
[12:58] <Ayabara> I need a good solution for disk encryption in ubuntu. anyone??
[12:58] <konfuzed> hey there a quick question about bios settings.  Should Plug and Play AWARE OS be on or off for the install
[12:58] <konfuzed> Ayabara, there isnt one
[12:58] <Rhisc> I need some help... I just downloaded dapper and when I go to install it after a while my screen goes blank and then dosent do anything...
[12:59] <rogy> what is the commans to extract a file to /opt with sudo ?
[12:59] <knight488> hm tried that and a lot of other things, nothings making results
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  wait, oh dear
[12:59] <zybrid> rogy: sudo
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  sorry, I just realized that you downloaded the sources, not the package
[12:59] <liquiem> Ayabara: try dm-crypt
[12:59] <zybrid> rogy: oh
[12:59] <digimars> hello
[12:59] <zybrid> rogy: what kind of file is it? tar?
[12:59] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Should I download this file: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/network-manager-gnome
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  you'll have a hell of an easier time downloading the package direct from Ubuntu
[12:59] <knight488> SD = Secure Digital, I was mistaken
[12:59] <liquiem> Ayabara: or some fuse based fs
[12:59] <troutface> Can anyone recommend a good Linux distro?
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  yes, that would be preferable
[01:00] <liquiem> troutface: no
[01:00] <Ayabara> liquiem: thanks
[01:00] <anto9us> konfuzed, WEP cracking not so much a problem as awareness, one of the biggest security issues in the modern world is knowing what you're connecting to. It's easy to walk into a wireless zone with a laptop spoof an AP and hijack all its clients and credit card details. Clients need to no the details (mac address) of AP they're connecting to.
[01:00] <whayworth> troutface:  it depends on youre needs
[01:00] <ompaul> troutface, not possible
[01:00] <digimars> has anyone here successfully using a k7-smp kernel on a dual core AMD under 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:00] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg  | less    and read every line until you find the thing. if its not there it could be that your problem is no drivers installed for the SD controller
[01:00] <whayworth> troutface:  *you're
[01:00] <whayworth> troutface:  **your
[01:00] <liquiem> troutface: please read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html before asking another question, thank you
[01:00] <rogy> yes it is a tar
[01:00] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Ok, it's a deb file, how do Install it now? Any hint before I launch ubuntu on this pc :) ?
[01:00] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I think dpkg -i should work for it
[01:01] <konfuzed> anto9us, do you think this is a big or hard problem to solve??
[01:01] <troutface> All I want is  livecd that 1) Installs as advertised 2) has repository support for Nvidia kernels
[01:01] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I use terminal to go to the folder it is in and then type: dpkg -i ?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> troutface: try ubuntu
[01:01] <gnomefreak> troutface: or talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <konfuzed> troutface, there is no repository support for nvidia any thing
[01:01] <anto9us> konfuzed, no, just be aware, that's all, it's a problem that plays on ignorance, like most hustles
[01:01] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  yes, that's what you would do for "dpkg -i"
[01:01] <troutface> Hmm you sure? ^^
[01:02] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: huh? i get nvidia from repos
[01:02] <konfuzed> troutface, you have to download that seperately. best to do so before hand to hae it on hand during the install
[01:02] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Ok thanks, brb
[01:02] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: you get them in multiverse repos
[01:02] <konfuzed> gnomefreak, where? its proprietary
[01:02] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: multiverse
[01:02] <konfuzed> oh sure answer before I ask
[01:02] <skavenge> nvidia drivers are in the repos but they are not as up to date as nvidia's obviously
[01:02] <konfuzed> for the video or for the mobo-chipset
[01:03] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: enable multiverse than sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:03] <digimars> has anyone here successfully using a k7-smp kernel on a dual core AMD under 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:03] <james_xxx> how long should it take gparted to format a 6GB HD to ext3?
[01:03] <chavo> james_xxx, a couple of seconds
[01:03] <liquiem> troutface: ubuntu desktop-cd has an installer and for nvidia, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:03] <anto9us> james_xxx, shouldn't take long at all
[01:04] <james_xxx> ok it has been 25 minutes LOL
[01:04] <konfuzed> gnomefreak, the previous ubuntu isntall did not setup the onboard nvidia ethernet port so repos are there fore useless
[01:04] <anto9us> james_xxx, there's a problem somewhere, cancel and look into it
[01:04] <troutface>  Okay, how do I install livecd (xubuntu). The included installer (desktop) only teases like a sexy girl pulling her knickers and then runs away! whatsup... sigh..
[01:05] <Joe_scorp> when i try and change games in solitare the game closes, can someone help
[01:05] <skavenge> the nvidia drivers in the repos he was referring to are for video
[01:05] <brent_> how is daper? for lap tops? or other low power things, mainly involving wep?
[01:06] <brent_>  and wi fi?
[01:06] <anto9us> troutface, I'm keen to check out that installer but I think it's as simple as "sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop"
[01:06] <anto9us> troutface, correction "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:06] <troutface> brent becarefull dapper could be crapper
[01:07] <brent_> well I am holding out for the moment
[01:07] <brent_> I would  love a great simple fix
[01:07] <digimars> has anyone here successfully gotten a k7-smp kernel on a dual core AMD working under 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:08] <brent_> but I have been working on it for so long,.. I kindofwant to know why
[01:08] <skavenge> there is nothing simple about linux heh
[01:08] <jhenn> how do u make a .torrent file out of files in ubuntu?
[01:08] <maikol> i have a fresh install and i need my kernel source. is m-a prepare all i need to run?
[01:08] <cyphase> :P
[01:08] <konfuzed> ok ubuntu.com has nothing about the bios. is there anywhere that comments about preffered bios settings or bios problems
[01:08] <brent_> well I was talking relitivly
[01:08] <anto9us> brent, wep works ok on wifi even with ndiswrapper
[01:08] <Joe_scorp> is anyone else having problems with solitare since last updates for dapper?
[01:08] <brent_> I am using mad wifi
[01:08] <cyphase> my main computer is getting an upgrade, so i took out my hard drive that has /home on it, and mounted it on a laptop as /home
[01:09] <cyphase> now i'm in my account
[01:09] <brent_> IT WORKS WITH OUT ANYTHING
[01:09] <brent_> i CAN'T GET WEP TO WORK
[01:10] <brent_> IDEAS
[01:10] <Rhisc> I need some help, when I go to install Ubuntu Dapper the CD boots but when the installer runs my screen goes blank and I cant see a thing
[01:10] <anto9us> brent, I've never used mad wifi, don't know mate
[01:10] <Rhisc> has anyone had this problem?
[01:10] <brent_> WHAT DO YOU USE?
[01:10] <brent_> ?
[01:10] <Madpilot> brent, stop shouting, please
[01:10] <skavenge> lower case thats  what we use
[01:10] <brent_> sorry
[01:10] <brent_> I know
[01:10] <anto9us> brent, on my laptop I just use the standard kit with ndiswrapper
[01:11] <liquiem> Rhisc: can you do alt + ctrl + f1 to get to a terminal?
[01:11] <brent_> had problems with caps
[01:11] <linuxuser> wonders if printer support will ever be improved in ubuntu?
[01:11] <brent_> fixed it
[01:11] <jhenn> how do u make a .torrent in ubutnu?
[01:11] <Rhisc> liquiem: I dont think it would help because I cant see anything, my monitor actually says no signal detected
[01:11] <brent_> o you use wep?
[01:11] <Ayabara> the fan on my inspiron is very loud in ubuntu. can I check the speed in some way?
[01:11] <pepinito> hi
[01:11] <aurelius> jhenn yea you can
[01:12] <Rhisc> liquiem: Maybe it has trouble recognizing my video card...
[01:12] <liquiem> jhenn: iirc every bt client can make a torrent-file, use one!
[01:12] <jhenn> aurelius: HOW
[01:12] <bina> jhenn: cant you do it through the client?
[01:12] <jhenn> no
[01:12] <liquiem> Rhisc: you could try it
[01:12] <jhenn> all ubuntu bt clients suck
[01:12] <bina> jhenn: i thought azureus did it
[01:12] <liquiem> jhenn: azureus can make torrent files
[01:13] <jhenn> bina: azerus = shit
[01:13] <darkfox> hi all
[01:13] <brent_> ok? help with wep?
[01:13] <liquiem> jhenn: language please
[01:13] <ompaul> jhenn, language please
[01:13] <Joe_scorp> 
[01:13] <ompaul> !wep
[01:13] <ubotu> well, wep is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[01:13] <bina> jhenn: ok well, thats what i use - although never to make a .torrent - so I dont know, sorry :)
[01:13] <jhenn> stfd
[01:13] <darkfox> ubuntu installer is crashing with an XFS root :(
[01:13] <linuxuser> anyone with some information on how to install hp laserjet 1020 in ubuntu?
[01:13] <anto9us> jhenn, I think that very much depends on what application you use and the important issue is creating a tracker, I suggest some reading, most support docs are for downloading, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent
[01:14] <liquiem> jhenn: lol, and you want help? no, thanks
[01:14] <ompaul> jhenn, it was brought to your attention please read the next url I get ubotu to put out here
[01:14] <ompaul> !CoC
[01:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:14] <jhenn> liquiem: IM NEW U MUST ASSIST ME NOW!
[01:14] <dff> what can I do fro looking at gay cahat room?
[01:14] <dff> for
[01:15] <livingdaylight> Hi Guys! any of you use Flock?
[01:15] <ompaul>  dff want to be next?
[01:15] <ompaul> this is an IRC Support channel for Ubuntu software
[01:15] <livingdaylight> downloade and untarred but don't know how to complete the process from here
[01:16] <brent_> SO  is ever one dumb here?
[01:16] <anto9us> dff, freenode is dedicated to open source software projects, I think you'd have better luck on a network dedicated to chat
[01:16] <livingdaylight> ompaul: just thought i'd ask : (
[01:16] <ompaul> brent, I gave you a wep url scroll back and read it
[01:16] <brent_>  don't get me wrong if you want a goodprogect
[01:16] <srp> do the ati drivers work with the latest ubuntu?
[01:16] <brent_> ,...
[01:16] <darkfox> anyone got any idea why the installer crashes with an XFS root partition?  and if there's a workaround?
[01:17] <brent_> sorry my bad let me check it out
[01:17] <systest> what's the deb versions of "rpm -qa" to list all pkgs and "rpm -ql" to list the files in a package?
[01:18] <MrKeuner> (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel. What am I missing?
[01:18] <HellDragon> l
[01:18] <livingdaylight> where can i take my non-ubuntu software installation quuestion?
[01:18] <kmilo> systest, dpkg -l
[01:18] <crimsun> livingdaylight: #linuxhelp, perhaps?
[01:18] <systest> kmilo: thanks
[01:18] <kmilo> systest, dpkg -L package
[01:18] <ompaul> systest, apt-cache search $value
[01:18] <anto9us> livingdaylight, depends, could be a million places, what's the non-ubuntu software?
[01:18] <ompaul> systest, apt-cache show $value
[01:18] <Jowi> ubotu, tell livingdaylight about compile
[01:19] <livingdaylight> anto9us: a browser called Flock
[01:19] <Rhisc> srp: I cant install ubuntu due to what I think is an ATI problem lol
[01:19] <systest> ompaul: thanks as well
[01:19] <digimars> anyone here successfully running a k7-smp kernel for a dual core amd processor in Dapper?
[01:19] <Sjoerd-> hello again :)
[01:19] <anto9us> livingdaylight, I think I've heard of that, let me check it out, I'll get back to you
[01:19] <ompaul> systest, you can have fun with all of that
[01:19] <briguyd> so my wireless internet wasnt working, so i went into the network-admin and deleted everything under DNS and Search Domains, what can i do to fix it?
[01:20] <MrKeuner> anyone here successfully running fglrx with latest 686 kernel in dapper?
[01:20] <Sjoerd-> I am receiving this error now while trying to install the network manager: Package libnm-util0 is not installed.
[01:20] <srp> Rhisc: my next linux choice is going to be based on whether or not the ati drivers work
[01:20] <darkfox> is launchpad.net the right place to file dapper installer bugs?
[01:20] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:20] <crimsun> darkfox: yes, though there about 300 of them.
[01:20] <darkfox> srp: ati drivers never work... your next gfx card choice should be based on that...
[01:20] <Dial_tone> sjoerd, how are you installing it?
[01:20] <nox-Hand> Hey
[01:20] <darkfox> crimsun: ok thanks
[01:21] <Madpilot> darkfox, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:21] <brent_> opal that command didn't work,... got to run for  sec
[01:21] <anto9us> livingdaylight, having queried chanserv with 'list *flock*' there's both a #flock and ##flock channel
[01:21] <Sjoerd-> Dial_tone: using dpkg -i ( I already found the other package though, think it just needs to be installed first)
[01:21] <srp> darkfox: i dont have the money for a new card, otherwise i would get one
[01:21] <Dial_tone> use apt-get
[01:21] <livingdaylight> anto9us: cool
[01:21] <livingdaylight> anto9us: i'll ask there
[01:21] <Sjoerd-> Dial_tone: Won't work without internet access, brb :)
[01:22] <MrKeuner> should i have a fglrx.ko under /lib/modules/... ?
[01:22] <Dial_tone> I can't get my Radeon 8500 driver to work properly either
[01:22] <Madpilot> hmm... Shift+PrintScreen used to take a nice screenshot w/ window border, just of the window w/ focus. Now it leaves out the window border... odd.
[01:22] <nox-Hand> My Gimp is locking up my system, so I want to kill it, but I don't know how to kill it, ask killall gimp doesn't do nothing.. How would I go about finding the correct process and killing it?
[01:22] <MrKeuner> nox-Hand/ okill gimp
[01:22] <Madpilot> nox-Hand, try just clicking the X (close) button in the top-right corner of the main GIMP window
[01:22] <MrKeuner> nox-Hand/ pkill gimp
[01:23] <briguyd> anyone know a way to tell what should go under both DNS Servers and Search Domains in the DNS tab of network-admin?
[01:23] <jack|ass> Is there a way to make VNC in unix work like it does in windows, where i can walk away from my computer and access the desktop from elsewhere?
[01:23] <Jowi> !vnc
[01:23] <anto9us> briguyd, are you using DHCP or static addresses?
[01:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[01:24] <briguyd> umm
[01:24] <briguyd> dhcp, i think
[01:24] <jack|ass> perfect
[01:24] <jack|ass> !x11vnc
[01:24] <MrKeuner> jack|ass/ vnc works better than what's on windows
[01:24] <Jowi> :)
[01:24] <pepinito> is there a way to watch tv on ubuntu, which apps do you know?
[01:24] <anto9us> briguyd, if DHCP you can ignore them, they will be assigned automagically
[01:24] <brent_> myth tv
[01:24] <skavenge> gotta have a tv card but yeah its possible
[01:24] <briguyd> anto9us, then why doesnt it work any more?
[01:24] <pepinito> i have a card
[01:25] <darkfox> jack|ass: i think you're looking for 'rfb'
[01:25] <pepinito> but don't know about apps
[01:25] <existance> when i use rpm to install a package (i.e. rpm -i package.rpm) I get error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[01:25] <anto9us> briguyd, what doesn't work? dns lookup?
[01:25] <briguyd> anto9us, i think i might have static, then, because it was working before and there was stuff filled in there, then i deleted it in my frantic screwing stuff up rage
[01:25] <nox-Hand> Madpilot, MrKeuner: Cheers, but it just, after ten minutes, unfroze. It was rendering, and had frozen X.
[01:25] <darkfox> jack|ass: apt-get install rfb  ... then x0rfbserver on your desktop.  you can then use vnc from another machine to connect to it.
[01:25] <b14ck> the sound played by flash animation is very glitchy. should i update flash player? and how?
[01:25] <skavenge> pepinito; check out linuxtv.org
[01:25] <Madpilot> nox-Hand, not fun - I've never seen it do that before :|
[01:25] <livingdaylight> anto9us: can't see a channel called flock
[01:25] <anto9us> briguyd, are you connected to a router?
[01:25] <Mysta> hello, I just installed XGL/Compiz (all went well), BUT now I cannot launch Xchat IRC client right after install...
[01:26] <anto9us> livingdaylight, #flock
[01:26] <briguyd> im using wireless
[01:26] <z3ro0ne> how do i get my computer to use an external modem with an ethernet connection?
[01:26] <livingdaylight> ok, but i dpon't have access
[01:26] <briguyd> anto9us, there is no wired hookup on the laptop, only a slot for the wireless and a phone jack
[01:27] <z3ro0ne> or a usb
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Mysta: what do you mean you cant launch it?
[01:27] <laozi> Question for ya'll.  Ubuntu will freeze after shut down, it will go through all the shutdown processes and then hang at the end and not shut down my computer.  Its an IBM Thinkpad T21.
[01:27] <[sam] > what happens if i move a file to an file?
[01:27] <anto9us> briguyd, most wireless are configured dhcp to my knowledge although you can configure static and still connect to it but lose other settings like dns, reconfigure to dhcp and retry
[01:27] <z3ro0ne> can anyone help with that?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> [sam] : the file moves
[01:27] <Mysta> gnomefreak, thx. I mean everytime I double click the icon, nothing happens. I'm on a windows box now
[01:27] <briguyd> anto9us, h/o lemme try something
[01:27] <Rug> [sam] : it'll prolly overwrite the original file
[01:28] <[sam] > gnomefreak, I moved it, and accidentally moved to a file,not a folder
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ah we cant help much there
[01:28] <[sam] > and the moved file disappeared
[01:28] <MrKeuner> anyone here successfully running fglrx with latest 686 kernel in dapper?
[01:28] <skavenge> it will overwrite
[01:28] <MrKeuner> should i have a fglrx.ko under /lib/modules/... ?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> [sam] : reverse the command
[01:28] <[sam] > gnomefreak, how can i reverse it
[01:28] <liquiem> b14ck: dont use aoss or esd wrapper, it's a flash plugin problem
[01:28] <gnomefreak> [sam] : mv last/path/you/used first/path/you/used
[01:28] <[Wiebel] > what tools can I use to convert a dvd to mpeg ?
[01:28] <[Wiebel] > (home made dvd)
[01:28] <skavenge> its still the same file basically, just renamed, move it back and rename it
[01:28] <methecooldude> hi all
[01:29] <Elijah> LibClamAV Warning: ***  The virus database is older than 7 days. <--- How can I update this?
[01:29] <Mysta> gnomefreak, if I repeatedly open it and watch the system monitor I can see it enter the process list and then leave
[01:29] <kmilo> Elijah, from clamav
[01:29] <[sam] > will it get the file back? I couldn't find the file anywhere now
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Mysta: try #xchat or ##windows
[01:29] <briguyd> anto9us, yaargh, tharr she blows
[01:29] <anto9us> livingdaylight, I think they might have an homepage somewhere, although, and I don't want to appear rude, why are you trying out such an experimental app and seeking help?
[01:29] <Elijah> kmilo: how?
[01:29] <Mysta> thx
[01:29] <Elijah> kmilo: what command?
[01:29] <methecooldude> how do i become a channel op?
[01:29] <[Wiebel] > anyone?
[01:29] <Elijah> kmilo: clamav update?
[01:30] <anto9us> briguyd, well done mate! :)
[01:30] <kmilo> Elijah, I don't know, read the clamav docs
[01:30] <briguyd> the connection itself was set to static, changed it to DHCP and it lives again
[01:30] <Elijah> methecooldude: by a lotof sucking up
[01:30] <Rug> methecooldude: you don't
[01:30] <Elijah> kmilo: thanks for nothing
[01:30] <Elijah> brb
[01:30] <liquiem> Mysta: have you switched transparent backgrounds on?
[01:30] <z3ro0ne> how do i get my computer to use an external modem with an ethernet connection?
[01:30] <Sjoerd-> I'm getting the following error when trying to install network-manager-gnome via a deb file: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnm-util0 -- Then, when I try to install libnm-util0 I get this error: Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache). What could be wrong here?
[01:30] <briguyd> anto9us, thanks!
[01:30] <methecooldude> ok then
[01:30] <[sam] > gnomefreak, i moved the file to a file,instead of a folder
[01:30] <[sam] > gnomefreak, and the file is gone
[01:30] <z3ro0ne> or how do i get ubuntu to use an external modem with an ethernet connection?
[01:30] <Mysta> liquiem, inside xchat? where are you referring to?
[01:30] <methecooldude> im using a live verson of ubuntu
[01:30] <gnomefreak> [sam] : this is why we advise using cp first
[01:31] <skavenge> [sam] ; the file you moved it to is gone as well?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> [sam] : mv is dangerous if you mess up i use cp than ill move it
[01:31] <liquiem> Mysta: i have not read the whole conversation, but your xchat doesnt run anymore or what is your problem?
[01:31] <[sam] > yea, it was a bad idea
[01:31] <gnomefreak> liquiem: windows
[01:31] <[sam] > had to download the whole thing again. lol
[01:32] <liquiem> gnomefreak: windows? that makes me confused, what do you mean?
[01:32] <Mysta> liquiem, I installed XGL/Compiz on my Dell D620 laptop (running Dapper) and now I cant launch xChat. gnomefreak I think I confused you, sorry.
[01:32] <z3ro0ne> can anyone help me
[01:32] <gnomefreak> liquiem: i think hes on windows xchat i was gonna help him but he said he was on windows
[01:32] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless nic?
[01:32] <[sam] > i'm on mIRC
[01:32] <andreasdk_> Anyone here that knows about xfce styling?
[01:32] <liquiem> Mysta: haha, thats what i guessed, hold on a sec
[01:32] <gnomefreak> Mysta: uninstall xchat and reinstall it
[01:32] <methecooldude> z3ro0ne ill try 2 help u
[01:33] <skavenge> andreasdk_; might try #xfce
[01:33] <z3ro0ne> i have a gt701 external modem
[01:33] <gnomefreak> andreasdk_: what about it?
[01:33] <briguyd> andreasdk_,  or #xubuntu
[01:33] <methecooldude> ok
[01:33] <z3ro0ne> its connected to the internet
[01:33] <methecooldude> ok
[01:33] <z3ro0ne> i just need to get ubuntu to find it
[01:33] <anto9us> briguyd, if you do need a fixe ip assigned to you machine from your router you can tell most routers to do so
[01:33] <methecooldude> ok ill ahve a look
[01:33] <Tommy2k4> to compile mplayerplug-in for opera must i --enable-x?
[01:33] <briguyd> anto9us, ok, thanks
[01:34] <liquiem> Mysta: gconftool-2 --type int --set /apps/xchat/main_window/background_type "0"
[01:34] <sloncho> hi. where I can find mythtv packages for 6.06?
[01:34] <bernier> hi, while running ./configure , i get that error:
[01:34] <bernier> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
[01:34] <bernier> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:34] <liquiem> Mysta: run that in a terminal as user and xchat should work again
[01:34] <krazykit> bernier: then install XML::Parser
[01:34] <bernier> how?
[01:35] <[sam] > hi krazykit
[01:35] <kmilo> sloncho, penguin liberation front
[01:35] <Mysta> liquiem, cool one sec let me try that!
[01:35] <joepaper> sloncho: mythtv 0.18 is in either universe or multiverse
[01:35] <anto9us> sloncho, they're in the multiverse repository
[01:35] <methecooldude> z3ro have u tryed device manager?
[01:35] <z3ro0ne> methecooldude, would you happen to know how to connect the modem using usb?
[01:35] <sloncho> joepaper: they are enabled, but apt-cache search does not show mythtv. there are only 3 lib packages, related to mythtv
[01:35] <krazykit> bernier: searching apt always helps ;-)  ... "apt-get install libxml-parser-perl"
[01:36] <anto9us> sloncho, do sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <methecooldude> yea jsut plag it in
[01:36] <bernier> thanks alot
[01:36] <methecooldude> but its linux ant it
[01:36] <z3ro0ne> its plugged in
[01:36] <lwizardl> anyone use exim ?
[01:36] <methecooldude> check if its in divice manager
[01:36] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  gosh!  sorry about the dependencies
[01:36] <methecooldude> device*
[01:37] <liquiem> i guess that worked for mysta ^^
[01:37] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I'm looking them up in Synaptic right now to see if there's anything further that might be making the situation weird
[01:37] <mystamax> liquiem: That worked wonders, I'm talking to you from my laptop running XGL/Compiz over xCHAT! thanks so much
[01:37] <anto9us> lwizardl, I've used it briefly a couple of years ago, just ask your question though, someone else may know if I don't
[01:37] <z3ro0ne> what would it be called?
[01:38] <mystamax> liquiem: is this a known issue, can you shortly explain what was wrong?
[01:38] <liquiem> mystamax: np and dont change the background settings to transparent, that would crash xchat again
[01:38] <z3ro0ne> i see alot of usb devices
[01:38] <Azi_Dahaka> is there a way to make a broadcomm wireless nic work without using ndiswrapper?
[01:38] <cat> hey i have a question does ubuntu has waimea because i can't seem to find it with this source list,
[01:38] <methecooldude> ummmmm look for 1 that say modem
[01:38] <mystamax> liquiem: when you say, "don't change the background settings to transparent" are you referring to individual programs?
[01:38] <cat> im a little new to ubuntu but to debian i;m old,
[01:38] <cat> so anyone can help?
[01:38] <krazykit> Azi_Dahaka: yes, but the included driver is pretty unstable.
[01:38] <z3ro0ne> no its not installed
[01:38] <lwizardl> anto9us, ok
[01:38] <mystamax> liquiem: not compiz?
[01:38] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  do you know if libnm-util0's dependencies in and of themselves are satisfied?
[01:39] <Rug> cat what is waimea?
[01:39] <methecooldude> o well try and find the drivers on the makers websiter for linux
[01:39] <lwizardl> how is exim compared top sendmail or postfix ?
[01:39] <[sam] > do you have to boot from a livecd to install ubuntu
[01:39] <Rug> cat: what is waimea?
[01:39] <lwizardl> *to
[01:39] <[sam] > is there any way I can install from dos
[01:39] <anto9us> Azi_Dahaka, unless it's listed as being supported by the kernel or on ubuntu.com as being supported then no
[01:39] <cat> is a window manager
[01:39] <liquiem> mystamax: no, just xchat. it's a known issue with xchat. but i cant explain you why xchat crashes. compiz/xgl is alpha stage, so dont expect it to be fixed soon
[01:39] <mystamax> sounds good
[01:39] <mystamax> thanks again
[01:39] <liquiem> mystamax: you can make xchat via compiz transparent without problems
[01:39] <Rug> cat: sorry, never heard of it
[01:39] <javaTard> Ugh, my server installed in all CLI, isn't there a gui. I see gnome is a package loaded
[01:39] <methecooldude> [sam] , there is a seprate install cd
[01:40] <krazykit> [sam] : install linux from dos?  not that i've ever heard of.
[01:40] <Azi_Dahaka> anto9us, where can i find the list of supported hw by the kernel?
[01:40] <z3ro0ne> ok i found it
[01:40] <[sam] > Krazykit, I don't have a cd burner
[01:40] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless nic? does it have to use ndiswrapper? everything i see on the wiki relating to it is hoary based ..
[01:40] <[sam] > Krazykit, that's why I was wondering if I could just use network to install it
[01:40] <z3ro0ne> its there methecooldude
[01:40] <methecooldude> [sam]  u can order 1 form ubuntus website for free
[01:40] <anto9us> lwizardl, my own preference is postfix, I have a functional server that has no problems and there's a good wiki page on wiki.ubuntu.com which I'll find for you if you don't know how
[01:40] <methecooldude> z3ro0ne ok download it then
[01:41] <z3ro0ne> download it?
[01:41] <methecooldude> the drivers
[01:41] <[sam] > methecooldude, aren't they losing profits if they do that
[01:41] <krazykit> [sam] : you can order a free CD from the website, or you could install it with floppies.  you'd need to read up on working debootstrap though
[01:41] <z3ro0ne> its installed
[01:41] <darkfox> [sam] : if you have a second PC and a network card that supports network booting then you can do a PXE / network install
[01:41] <krazykit> [sam] : haha, what profits?  ubuntu has a rich benefactor ;-)
[01:41] <anto9us> Azi_Dahaka, kernel.org might be worth a search although I've rarely visited there myself
[01:41] <lwizardl> anto9us, ok i'm trying to configure a full server (linux, apache, mysql, php, mail, ssl, etc)
[01:41] <methecooldude> g2g soz
[01:41] <z3ro0ne> device manager found it
[01:41] <skavenge> the man's been in space that out to tell you the loot he's got
[01:42] <jenda> I'm having trouble with one particular DVD. It played yesterday, after several attempts... but today, I just can't get it to. It always says 'no plugin to handle dvd:/ or wrong mrl syntax' or something to the effect. Any ideas?
[01:42] <methecooldude> rite u should be able 2 connect now
[01:42] <[sam] > krazykit, u mean from donations?
[01:42] <z3ro0ne> now how do i get my computer to use it
[01:42] <krazykit> [sam] : partially, yes
[01:42] <skavenge> [sam] ; the guy that started ubuntu is a billionare many times over to start with
[01:42] <anto9us> lwizardl, I think documentation is very new for that lot but should be superb very soon, I've not checked it out yet, my preference is zope, try wik.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <methecooldude> now that u will have 2 ask som1 else
[01:43] <init7> hello everyone
[01:43] <anto9us> lwizardl, sorry for typo, that's wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <z3ro0ne> ok i got it
[01:43] <z3ro0ne> thanks methecooldude
[01:43] <liquiem> use the bandwidth you paying for!
[01:43] <z3ro0ne> you're a life saver
[01:43] <[sam] > what if everyone orders a few, won't they bankcrupt?
[01:43] <methecooldude> kk np z3ro0ne
[01:43] <init7> does someone maybe have an idea why the dapper release kernel -23 broke my USB Card-Reader support?
[01:43] <krazykit> [sam] : well, cds cost next to nothing, and not everybody orders some.  tons of people burn their own CDs
[01:43] <skavenge> [sam] ; there's a corporate side of ubuntu for companies and the like that does bring in money as well
[01:44] <WilliamCai> hello, does Ubuntu have a plan to certify any J2EE application servers? like WebLogic, WebSphere or even JBoss, JoNas
[01:44] <thoreauputic> methecooldude: it isn't all that cool to use things like "u" and "2" instead of actual words - and it makes it harder for people who have english as a second language
[01:44] <lwizardl> anto9us, thanks for the link i found a couple of things on it i can use so far
[01:44] <shrump_jimbo> [sam]  ubuntu's company has $10 million backup cash
[01:44] <[sam] > I guess it's just the postage cost
[01:44] <methecooldude> [sam]  they ask a minum of 6 to redistbute and remebmer theat linux is open sorce
[01:44] <Rug> thoreauputic: nicely played
[01:44] <z3ro0ne> how do i compile things myself?
[01:44] <anto9us> lwizardl, we're standing on the shoulders of giants my friend :)
[01:45] <Rug> z3ro0ne: what did you want to compile?
[01:45] <krazykit> ubotu: tell z3ro0ne about compile
[01:45] <methecooldude> soz 01 idn
[01:45] <[sam] > methecooldude, I guess their aim is small businesses
[01:45] <liquiem> z3ro0ne: ./configure; make; make install :)
[01:45] <z3ro0ne> just in general Rug
[01:45] <z3ro0ne> im new to linux
[01:45] <methecooldude> yea true [sam] 
[01:45] <liquiem> z3ro0ne: or read the INSTALL file provided in the archive
[01:45] <Rug> z3ro0ne: the wonderfull thing about Ubuntu; you don't need to compile everything
[01:45] <Madpilot> [sam] , the aim of ShipIt is 'anyone' - I ordered 50 of the last version, gave them away to friends & at the local LUG
[01:45] <z3ro0ne> well its just something i figure i need to learn
[01:45] <hangfire> you can only install .deb files on ubuntu, right?
[01:46] <[koji] > hangfire: yes because it is debian base
[01:46] <krazykit> hangfire: you can convert rpm's with alien, but it's generally frowned upon.
[01:46] <Madpilot> hangfire, you can install rpm via alien, but it's not recommended - find a deb if you can
[01:46] <kmilo> hangfire, is the normal way
[01:46] <Rug> z3ro0ne: if you search in synaptic for the files that you want; there is a good chacne you can find it in there.
[01:46] <[sam] > Madpilot, how are they packaged
[01:46] <hangfire> ok, I think its better to convert from tarball to .deb
[01:46] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, why? I've used Ubuntu over a year and never had to compile a thing...
[01:47] <krazykit> hangfire: well, a tarball might just be source code...
[01:47] <hangfire> oh
[01:47] <skavenge> right
[01:47] <skavenge> more than likely
[01:47] <Madpilot> [sam] , the ShipIt CDs? They're in a light cardboard 'wallet' thing
[01:47] <z3ro0ne> alright
[01:47] <skavenge> so 'converting' it isnt going to do anything
[01:47] <z3ro0ne> is there a book on ubuntu 5.10?
[01:47] <hangfire> Ive seen a book on ubuntu, check amazon
[01:47] <z3ro0ne> i need a physical book i cant stand scroll and squint
[01:48] <[sam] > madpilot, I just never believed there would be anything that is free
[01:48] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, I think so - but 6.06 is the current version
[01:48] <Madpilot> [sam] , well, there really is :)
[01:48] <z3ro0ne> really?
[01:48] <z3ro0ne> wow
[01:48] <z3ro0ne> i ordered 5.10 like six or seven months ago and just got it two weeks ago
[01:48] <[koji] > there will be an official book soon
[01:48] <[sam] > madpilot, are they doing international shipping too? that'll cost a lot
[01:49] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, there's an 'official' Ubuntu book in August, covering 6.06
[01:49] <Madpilot> [sam] , they'll ship anywhere
[01:49] <skavenge> do they even have to pay shipping? i dunno, may be a non-profit deal
[01:49] <gnomefreak> [sam] : august last i heard
[01:49] <z3ro0ne> cool i'll have to get it
[01:49] <anto9us> z3ro0ne, zoom is a possibility, printer is another, maybe cheaper than a book and more up-to-date
[01:49] <dibblego> is there a public repository of themes?
[01:49] <patty522> hello
[01:49] <thoreauputic> !themes
[01:49] <skavenge> for gnome? theres alot of websites
[01:49] <z3ro0ne> does anyone know how i can change the settings on a laptop so it wont ask for a password everytime i close the monitor?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> !tell dibblego about themes
[01:50] <gnomefreak> skavenge: you pay nothing as far as shipit is concerned as for taxes for you country thats up to where you are
[01:50] <hangfire> I just checked amazon, and there is "ubuntu unleashed" and "beginning ubuntu linux"
[01:50] <patty522> i was wondering if anyone could help me im thinking of getting a apple imac for my mum to use for the net but will ubuntu go on it
[01:50] <anto9us> dibblego, there are some themes in the repositories but best check out gnome-look.org
[01:50] <patty522> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8827925196
[01:50] <[sam] > madpilot, that's unprecedented
[01:50] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, you can also get printed versions of Ubuntu's help files
[01:50] <gnomefreak> hangfire: its eh
[01:50] <patty522> is the place
[01:50] <skavenge> gnomefreak; i meant about ubuntu having to pay to ship them to you
[01:50] <joepaper> z3ro0ne: System->Preferences->Power Management
[01:50] <dibblego> ok thanks
[01:50] <hangfire> its eh?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> skavenge: yes they pay shipping costs ;)
[01:50] <skavenge> oh okay
[01:51] <gnomefreak> hangfire: its not really great its ok though
[01:51] <pepinito> firefox fonts look horrible!, is there a way to improve it?
[01:51] <z3ro0ne> i dont see a power manegment joepaper
[01:51] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, check this out: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
[01:51] <hangfire> which? ubuntu unleashed?
[01:51] <dibblego> gnome-look.org appears to be down
[01:51] <gnomefreak> hangfire: yes
[01:51] <hangfire> oh
[01:51] <anto9us> pepinito, you can overide all fonts in firerox preference
[01:51] <gnomefreak> dibblego: hold on a sec let me see something
[01:51] <init7> does someone maybe have an idea why the dapper release kernel -23 broke my USB Card-Reader support?
[01:52] <[sam] > now i c why ubuntu becomes so popular in such a short period of time
[01:52] <joepaper> z3ro0ne: strange, power management is on my desktop and laptop install by default
[01:52] <thoreauputic> [sam] : partly. It also happens to work rather well :)
[01:52] <skavenge> it was one of the first distrobutions that put a major focus on a 'desktop machine' versus using it for servers/business etc ..
[01:52] <Elijah> thoreauputic: you new to this channel?
[01:53] <Elijah> LibClamAV Warning: ***  The virus database is older than 7 days. <--- How can I update this?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Elijah: hardly
[01:53] <anto9us> [sam] , I think it has a lot to do with ease of installation, use and support more than anything
[01:53] <Elijah> thoreauputic: any ideas?
[01:53] <Dial_tone> init7: install 25 and see if its fixed
[01:53] <eXistenZ> still banned?
[01:53] <ToHellWithGA> hi.  i used the live CD to redistribute my partitions so that I can put /home on a new drive.  what is the best method for copying the files and folders in /home to the new drive currently mounted as /temphome ?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Elijah: do you need clamav ? Are you running a server?
[01:53] <eXistenZ> oh no :)
[01:54] <Elijah> thoreauputic: no server!  just to check my emails for virus
[01:54] <kmilo> ToHellWithGA, cp ?
[01:54] <Rug> gnomefreak: sure eliminates a lot of crap doesn't it?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> dibblego: mits down for a short time period
[01:54] <Elijah> thoreauputic: I use Thunderbird
[01:54] <thoreauputic> Elijah: for what purpose? To protect windows users?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> i use w3m or links2 ;)
[01:54] <dibblego> ok
[01:54] <liquiem> Elijah: iirc that program is called freshclam, that updates the virus definitions
[01:54] <thoreauputic> Elijah: you don't need anivirus for Linux
[01:54] <thoreauputic> *antivirus
[01:55] <Elijah> thoreauputic: yes protect myself and window users
[01:55] <liquiem> Elijah: the config files should be in /etc or /opt/clamav, do know exactly
[01:55] <skavenge> we have enough bugs, viruses leave linux alone hah
[01:55] <patty522> i was wondering if anyone could help me im thinking of getting a apple imac for my mum to use for the net but will ubuntu go on it
[01:55] <Elijah> liquiem: freshlam wont run
[01:55] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: either cpio or tar should work.
[01:55] <init7> Dial_tone: I did today and it didn't help :/
[01:55] <Elijah> liquiem: freshclam wont run
[01:55] <liquiem> Elijah: what does that mean? no output, errors or something else?
[01:55] <Rug> patty522: if you are putting Ubuntu on it why buy a mac?
[01:55] <anto9us> thoreauputic, we are or we are because of who we all are, if you're immune doesn't mean you're not a carrier, antivirus is as important on Linux as the rest of the world
[01:56] <patty522> true
[01:56] <Dial_tone> how do i change the default CLI editor?
[01:56] <Elijah> liquiem: output is:ERROR: Can't parse the config file /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf
[01:56] <Elijah> liquiem: any ideas?
[01:56] <hangfire> Dial, what do you want to change it to?
[01:56] <Rug> patty522: build a cheap box yourself, and pocket the difference.
[01:56] <dibblego> Dial_tone, System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[01:56] <liquiem> Elijah: nano -w /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf and look for a line with Example. if so, comment it out and try again
[01:56] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: cp -R could be used too, but I don't think it knows how to handle things like devices and sparce files so, if you have things like these in the old directory tree, you'll end up with a mess.
[01:56] <kmilo> Dial_tone, $EDITOR
[01:57] <thoreauputic> anto9us: true - that's why I asked if he was protecting other users
[01:57] <Elijah> liquiem: ok brb
[01:57] <bernier>  hi, while running ./configure for Gaim i got that error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715678
[01:57] <anto9us> thoreauputic, yes, more important on a server but we're all capable of forwarding infected emails
[01:57] <Elijah> liquiem: what do I comment out?
[01:57] <liquiem> bernier: install gtk+-2.x? :)
[01:58] <bernier> how????
[01:58] <liquiem> Elijah: the line with the text Example
[01:58] <Elijah> liquiem: there are 50 lines
[01:58] <kmilo> bernier, did you install libgtk2-dev ?
[01:58] <bernier> yes
[01:58] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: do i have devices in /home?
[01:58] <bernier> kmilo: yes
[01:58] <Elijah> liquiem: I place a # in fron of the word Example?
[01:58] <krazykit> bernier: are you sure?  it doesn't look like you installed the -dev package.  check to make sure
[01:58] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[01:59] <Elijah> liquiem: ok brb
[01:59] <Elijah> liquiem: how I save that file? :P
[01:59] <krazykit> bernier: for what it's worth, there IS a gaim2beta3 deb out there...
[01:59] <ToHellWithGA> kmilo: i did $ sudo cp -r home/* /temporary/
[01:59] <liquiem> Elijah: ctrl + o (write out)
[01:59] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: the system doesn't put any there, but there's nothing preventing your from creating some.  So it all depends on what you've been up to.  Regardless, you should get in the habbit of using the right tools.  cpio or tar are the right tools for moving entire trees.
[01:59] <liquiem> Elijah: and exit is ctrl + x
[01:59] <Elijah> liquiem: ok
[02:00] <ToHellWithGA> the lost+found directory shouldn't break anything when i re-mount that drive as /home, should it?
[02:00] <bernier> krazykit where?
[02:00] <liquiem> ToHellWithGA: no
[02:00] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i'll look into the man page for cpio.  thanks for the help
[02:00] <Elijah> liquiem: it says Error writing /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf: Permission denied
[02:00] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: the cp command you used did not preserve the timestamps on your files, nor their permissions.  so now all your files will appear to have been created just now.
[02:00] <ToHellWithGA> oh dear, i need permissions
[02:00] <liquiem> Elijah: you forgot the sudo infront of the command
[02:01] <liquiem> Elijah: sudo nano -w /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf sorry, my fault
[02:01] <Elijah> liquiem: yeas I did :P
[02:01] <krazykit> bernier: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[02:01] <Elijah> liquiem: ok its saved!  now run freshclam?
[02:01] <liquiem> Elijah: try it, if it still errors, post again
[02:01] <ToHellWithGA> thank you kmilo, ic56, and liquiem.
[02:01] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: use this: cd /home; find . -print |cpio -p /temporary
[02:01] <krazykit> bernier: you need to install gaim-data deb first, then gaim.
[02:01] <Elijah> liquiem: ok! now it says: ERROR: Please edit the example config file /usr/local/etc/freshclam.conf.
[02:02] <bernier> ha ok
[02:02] <liquiem> doh
[02:02] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: you need to give a couple other flags to cpio.  possibly -m and -d.
[02:02] <Elijah> liquiem: do same thing there?
[02:02] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[02:03] <Elijah> liquiem: ok brb
[02:03] <Horuzlna> hi.... I'm in ubuntu, and my console mode is fucked up. When my computer boots, my display (dell 2001fp) shows the BIOS perfectly well, with 80x25
[02:03] <thoreauputic> Elijah: why is clamav in /usr/local ? You realise the package is available in Ubuntu, right?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> !info clamav
[02:03] <Rug> How stable is XGL?
[02:03] <Horuzlna> but once I get into ubuntum,, it's 80x22 and the upper and lower lines are cut off
[02:03] <ubotu> clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[02:03] <Horuzlna> it's not a monitaor adjustment issue
[02:03] <Horuzlna> I cannot figure out what it is.
[02:03] <Elijah> liquiem: now it says: ERROR: Can't create new file ./clamav-f58fd68748a4987f in /usr/local/share/clamav
[02:03] <Elijah> liquiem: what now?
[02:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[02:04] <j-linux> hello
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: it also says; ERROR: The database directory must be writable for UID 1000 or GID 1000
[02:04] <Rug> EnsignRedshirt: hello
[02:04] <Horuzlna> because, if I adjust the positioning, there's NOTHING THERE
[02:04] <Horuzlna> it's literally not being sent to the display
[02:04] <liquiem> Rug: xgl is alpha software, YMMV
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: ERROR: Can't download main.cvd from database.clamav.net
[02:04] <Rug> liquiem: still eh?  bummer
[02:04] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i'm looking at the pass-through section of "info cpio" and do not see -m or -d as options
[02:04] <liquiem> Elijah: dont run it as user, update clamav as root!
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: what do I do now?
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: sudo freshlam ?
[02:04] <ToHellWithGA> they're hidden in a string of options without a description
[02:04] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Elijah: simplify your life by using the package manager is my advice
[02:05] <Horuzlna> please help me
[02:05] <init7> has anyone got an idea why my USB card-reader support got broken from the dapper release kernel till now?
[02:05] <jksd> hi, could anyone tell me what program I'd need to change pdf into bmp (or any common graphics file) and visa versa, or how to edit pdf files directly?
[02:05] <Horuzlna> I am on the verge of abandoning ubuntu
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> I just tried booting the 6.06 CD.  After some graphical stuff, it got to a blank screen, with a line at the top saying "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."  Then nothing happened for about 10 minutes (until I hit ctrl-alt-del and rebooted.)
[02:05] <Elijah> liquiem: ok it seems be downloading now!  but it also says: SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES
[02:05] <liquiem> thoreauputic: i just tried to install clamav and it errored out with post-install madness
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Should I have been more patient?
[02:05] <Elijah> thoreauputic: what package manager ?
[02:05] <Horuzlna> I AM GETTING 80x22 and the bottom 3 lines are missing
[02:05] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes, since they don't take arguments, they are shown together in a single string.  They are, however, described each separately in OPTIONS section of the manpage.
[02:05] <Horuzlna> I cannot see what I am typing right now.
[02:05] <thoreauputic> liquiem: ah, bug report time then :/
[02:06] <Rug> EnsignRedshirt: do you have an USB storage devices connected?
[02:06] <freddyubuntu> I have insatlled windows xp after ubuntu, i have two hard disks.... i have messed up my Grub , I have been reading many tutorials to fix my grub  none of them is working....can a Nice Person please PM me and help me ?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> !tell Elijah about synaptic
[02:06] <Rug> any*
[02:06] <liquiem> thoreauputic: and that's for the first 2h or something i run ubuntu ^^
[02:06] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, yes, livecd can take a while to boot
[02:06] <Elijah> thoreauputic: yes I know about synaptiec
[02:06] <Rug> freddyubuntu: XP first, linux second
[02:06] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: [-0adlmuvLV]  is hardly a description
[02:06] <freddyubuntu> Rug , I know I did a misatke Now i  need help
[02:06] <liquiem> rug, i guess xgl wont be beta or stable until a year or more. and we have to wait for pixmap_to_texture
[02:07] <Rug> liquiem: thanks.
[02:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Rug: The only usb device plugged in and turned on are a printer and scanner.
[02:07] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: are you reading the cpio manpage?  page down to the OPTIONS section.  This manpage is 300 lines long.
[02:07] <ToHellWithGA> my "man cpio" is 34 lines long
[02:07] <EnsignRedshirt> anto9us: "a while" ?!
[02:07] <Rug> freddyubuntu: XP has a nasty habbit of doing that.  It's 'prolly isn't repairable.
[02:07] <freddyubuntu> I have a very math exam but thjis ubuntu has take many last two days
[02:08] <Rug> EnsignRedshirt: detact printer & scanner & try again, but be patient
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> it is very sad....
[02:08] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: duh
[02:08] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, yeah, depending on how old the hardware is
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> if nessecery I unplug the windows Hard Disk
[02:08] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: got an email address?  I'll email you the copy from my Ubuntu 5.x
[02:08] <darkfox> ToHellWithGA: info cpio -> invoking cpio -> options
[02:08] <ToHellWithGA> i'm finding more info using the website at gnu.org, ic56.  thanks for your help
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> I just want ubuntu back
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> all my books are in ubuntu
[02:08] <Dial_tone> how often do minor kernel revisions come out? say 2.6.15-25  to 2.6.15.27 ?
[02:08] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: reinstall grub with grub-install, your menu.lst should be there nevertheless windows overwrote the mbr
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Dial_tone: depends on security issues etc
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> liquuiem  please help me step by step
[02:09] <hangfire> freddy, can you go in and get them with the live cd?
[02:09] <dibblego> freddyubuntu, boot with the Ubuntu CD and restore GRUB
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> I guesss i have done those things
[02:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Rug, anto9us: Thanks, I'll try again. ciao.
[02:09] <Dial_tone> thanks
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> I am chatting with yuo in Ubuntu's live C
[02:09] <dibblego> restore the MBR
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> livee Cd
[02:09] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, amount of ram is important, needs at leat 256 for livecd if I recall
[02:09] <j-linux> freddyubuntu: if you have an emergency, you can use an Ubuntu live cd and still access your files on the hard drive with it.
[02:09] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: i have no idea what's the ubuntu way to do that :/
[02:09] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: maybe the data is in the info pages on your box?  Try "info cpio"
[02:09] <EnsignRedshirt> anto9us: The computer is a Pentium 4 w 1gig ram.
[02:09] <j3g> i am having trouble with sound on ubuntu....it says: ALSA snd_pcm_open error: No such device... it is a AC'97 audio card ... how can i try to get it fixed?
[02:10] <skavenge> anto9us; 192 mb
[02:10] <jksd> anyone know how I can change pdf to bitmap?
[02:10] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, maybe just slow on cd access for someone reason, I'd give it 20 mins or so before quitting though
[02:10] <freddyubuntu> anybody would please help me in Private Message?
[02:10] <freddyubuntu> I am so tired... i have math exam
[02:10] <anto9us> *some unkown
[02:10] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: the data is definitely in http://www.gnu.org/software/cpio/manual/ which was referenced in the man page.  i'm not too lazy to dig a little for myself.  thanks for suggesting a way to use the | command to feed the output to cpio.  cheers
[02:10] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: If you are OK with the command line, check out the 'convert' command.
[02:11] <j-linux> freddyubuntu: if you need help accessing your files from the live CD, you can pm me.
[02:11] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: just run grub-install /dev/hda or what you drive is called and be sure /boot is mounted
[02:11] <skavenge> say you've got a dual boot win/ubuntu system and you wanna dump win there's no way to expand ubuntu to the rest of the drive without reinstalling is there?
[02:11] <jksd> EnsignRedshirt: no such command
[02:11] <enterusername> hi
[02:11] <enterusername> has anyone i9nstalled mythtv
[02:11] <freddyubuntu> my hda is windows hards disk
[02:11] <enterusername> with ubutu
[02:11] <freddyubuntu> how i can mount it as /boot  ?
[02:11] <enterusername> the database isnt being configured because it doesnt know the proper password for the root user
[02:11] <enterusername> any ideas how i can fix this?
[02:11] <anto9us> skavenge, is that with dapper, I'm confident I read 256 on the website
[02:12] <enterusername> Im having problems with the tables in mysql
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: It is provided with the Imagemagick package (I forget the actual name of the package).
[02:12] <liquiem> skavenge: you can expand the partition from a livecd and use resizefs to resize the filesystem, but it's dangerous
[02:12] <freddyubuntu> libquim:  grub-install /dev/hda
[02:12] <freddyubuntu> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:12] <liquiem> skavenge: you can use parted or gparted to use that, but if windows is located infront of ubuntu, bad luck
[02:12] <skavenge> anto9us; unless the website is not updated it says 192 .. just started downloading the iso
[02:13] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: you need: "cpio -pamd --sparce".  Possibly also -l.  Let me test it.
[02:13] <enterusername> anyone?
[02:13] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[02:13] <skavenge> liquiem; i see, and windows is there first ;/
[02:13] <jksd> EnsignRedshirt: K, thanks
[02:13] <nacho_wide> i just started using ubuntu today.  let me tell you - i love it.  is there a virus/spyware scanner for ubuntu, and if so, are they necessary?
[02:13] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: No problem.
[02:14] <anto9us> freddyubuntu, if it's just documents you want may be worth booting off livecd?
[02:14] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu; chroot /mnt/ubuntu; grub-install /dev/hda (CHANGE THE DEVICE NAMES TO YOUR SYSTEM!)
[02:14] <livingdaylight> is ti gparted? i want to resize my partition without loosing my ubuntu installlation
[02:14] <Rug> nacho_wide: it's not needed
[02:14] <liquiem> skavenge: bad, i know that acronis disk suite can do it, but it isnt free
[02:14] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: Yeah, this is the right flag list. "cpio -pamd --sparse".  You don't need -l to preserve pre-existing hardlinks.  Only to attempt to create new ones.
[02:14] <nacho_wide> Rug: neither?  and why not, because you should have it for windows
[02:15] <skavenge> ive got a cd drive and wireless internet on my laptop, apparently i need ndiswrapper and the windows driver and i dont see how the heck to get the driver back on the system if i wanna do a fresh install of ubuntu with no dualboot .. any suggestions would be appreciated
[02:15] <anto9us> skavenge, may be recommended amount that I'm thinking of
[02:15] <skavenge> anto9us; that would make sense
[02:15] <liquiem> livingdaylight: you risking dataloss if you want to do that! you can use gparted from a livecd to resize the partition and use resize2fs to resize the filesystem
[02:16] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: should i have a trailing "/" on "find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse /temporary" to ensure everything goes into that directory, or will it happen properly without the extra "/"?
[02:16] <anto9us> skavenge, using external medium or a partition with that driver on should work
[02:16] <liquiem> skavenge: usb stick? burn a cd?
[02:16] <livingdaylight> liquiem: but i'll loose data? or i risk loosing data? what data in particualar, or anything at random?
[02:16] <liquiem> skavenge: or as anto9us mentioned, setup a extra partition where you copy the files
[02:17] <skavenge> cd is out of the question, i was thinking of trying to use my ipod heh but i'm sure that is another headache all together
[02:17] <liquiem> livingdaylight: you risiking it and all data from that partition.. one time for resizing the partiton and one time from resize the filesystem
[02:17] <jksd> Ensign: that's too complicated for me, is there a GUI?
[02:17] <Rug> nacho_wide: there are no virus's that affect Linux.   and IF a virus ever does get created, it can't bring down a system like on windows, the worst it can do is to your /home folder.
[02:17] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: Here's the final answer: ;-). Trailing slash won't make a difference.   cd <src>; find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse <target>
[02:17] <rogy> where and how can i install mp3 decoder for totem?
[02:17] <ToHellWithGA> once i have this method whipped, how many partitions are useful?  i'd like to keep /var/www for future use as well
[02:18] <nacho_wide> Rug: and the same for spyware then?
[02:18] <anto9us> skavenge, yeah, I think ipod, unless ubuntu can natively see it as usb drive, I don't know I don't have one, would require network access for installation of support packages
[02:18] <Rug> nacho_wide: yes same thing.
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> hey guys I am in pain...
[02:18] <ToHellWithGA> i'm thinking a partition for /, a partition for /home, and a partition for /var/www will save me a lot of hassle during reinstallations
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> if u want to help me please PM me
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> my windows is on first hard disk
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> my ubuntu is on the second hard disk
[02:18] <XFR> Anyone check if mysql-common-4.1 is available?
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> I had RE-INSTALLED my windows after ubuntu
[02:18] <livingdaylight> liquiem: geez....so, would one need to be a daredevil to risk it? or just not care if one looses all
[02:19] <Rug> XFR: yes it is
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> now I cant go  back to ubuntu
[02:19] <ToHellWithGA> !tell freddyubuntu about flood
[02:19] <nacho_wide> cool Rug, thanks
[02:19] <skavenge> anto9us; yeah thats what i figured .. i havent run ubuntu since breezy, i know the ipod automounted for me but from there i dont know ive never worked with data off it just music
[02:19] <dibblego> freddyubuntu, google for restoring your MBR to be GRUB - it's gotta be a simple command or something
[02:19] <anto9us> skavenge, if it automounted under breezy then it sounds like a plan
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> i have read 4000 pages about it
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> i am so tired
[02:19] <liquiem> livingdaylight: i havent tried it yet, just with lvm testing volumes and that worked well.
[02:19] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: The desirable number of partitions depends on the size of your backup media.  Ideally you want each partition to fit in no more than one tape, so that, when you start an overnight dump, you don't arrive in the morning to find that it's been waiting half the night for a 2nd tape to be inserted.
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> none of them are working
[02:19] <ToHellWithGA> freddyubuntu: a lot of short sentences could be put on one line.  rather than ending a sentence every few seconds
[02:19] <anto9us> skavenge, copy the entire driver folder, not just the inf file, as a point of note
[02:20] <freddyubuntu> if u want to help me please pm me, i can not read your messages
[02:20] <freddyubuntu> it makes me more tired to read on pulbic room
[02:20] <freddyubuntu> pm me plz
[02:20] <dibblego> then go to sleep
[02:20] <ToHellWithGA> !beat freddyubuntu for not listening
[02:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ToHellWithGA
[02:20] <livingdaylight> liquiem: what is the difference between backing up and doing a fresh install and resizing patitions there or doing it gparted method?
[02:20] <skavenge> anto9us; yeah i might try it once the cd is done downloading .. unfortunetly if it doesnt work i really have no way to get the machine back online ;/ good idea with the folder though, i'll try that for sure
[02:20] <LiteHedded> !samba
[02:20] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[02:21] <freddyubuntu> liquiem, i am doing your thing.... it gives me error   chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[02:21] <freddyubuntu> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[02:21] <livingdaylight> liquiem: how do you know you've lost data?
[02:21] <liquiem> livingdaylight: backup saves your custom settings
[02:21] <liquiem> livingdaylight: if you see something like ERROR or CANT READ DATA or something, then you know ^^
[02:21] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: also, the more filesystemss, the more isolated the data corruption.  When your drive fails, the filesystem containing the bad sectors will be trashed.  The others will remain accessible.  The fewer filesystems you have, the greater the impact of that single point of failure.
[02:22] <freddyubuntu> god damn you guys, you all encourage human to move to linux...and when linux takes shit in my mouth , nobody helps me
[02:22] <freddyubuntu> good bye
[02:22] <livingdaylight> liquiem: so you only know when you happen upon it. Seems backup and fresh install is safer way
[02:22] <liquiem> livingdaylight: the best iead would be backup up the partition, resize it, reformat it and restore the files
[02:22] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: you've put a lot of thought into this.  do you do something computer-related for work?
[02:22] <skavenge> i'd feel alot better if i had a wired backup to the net in case in borks instead of just relying on trying to get wireless to work
[02:22] <darkfox> ic56: yeah so why does ubuntu default to 1 big partition ;/
[02:23] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: you had solutions, you didnt try any of them
[02:23] <anto9us> livingdaylight, also worth noting, a backup is only as good as a proven restore
[02:23] <livingdaylight> liquiem: yea...
[02:23] <liquiem> dont complain :)
[02:23] <eigenlambda> freddyubuntu: ???
[02:23] <livingdaylight> anto9us: a proven restore?
[02:23] <sjoerd_> hello there
[02:23] <eigenlambda> freddyubuntu: plz 2 not swear about a free system
[02:23] <eigenlambda> freddyubuntu: if u have a bug, file it on launchpad
[02:24] <anto9us> livingdaylight, test at least one random file can be restored before deleting the original
[02:24] <livingdaylight> ic
[02:24] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: for a small home system, /, /home, /var makes sense.  If you need to decrease the size of your filesystems further, /usr and /var/www are good places to separate things, as are places under /var like /var/spool , /var/news (if you carry usenet), etc.  Ubuntu defaults to one big partition because that's what newbies from windows understand.
[02:24] <livingdaylight> anto9us: since when do backups not restore?
[02:24] <B1zz> freddubuntu you have to understand some of the people here are new just like you do they wont have answers.  And also you have to understand that no one is getting paid to help.....its all volunteers
[02:25] <Elijah> liquiem: you here?
[02:25] <liquiem> ic56: doen swear ;) that are less experienced users :p
[02:25] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes, I work as a sysadmin
[02:25] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[02:25] <Elijah> liquiem: thanks!  I now have clamscan working perfectly thanks to your guidance :)
[02:25] <skavenge> hm .. i wonder if i can extract the ubuntu iso, add my wireless driver, then rebuild and burn it
[02:25] <liquiem> Elijah: np
[02:25] <ic56> liquiem: "newbie" is a boo-boo word now?  Gosh!
[02:25] <liquiem> ic56: ;)
[02:25] <stealth1> how do i get s-video out to work on my laptop?
[02:25] <ToHellWithGA> would you advise against /, /home, /var/www rather than /, /home, /var ?
[02:25] <Elijah> liquiem: :)
[02:25] <anto9us> livingdaylight, since I've had numerous people give me a floppy disk with a mulititude of windows shortcuts on them confident that their business accounts information is on there, despite the fact there's tens of megabytes of data apprently on one floppy disk
[02:26] <stealth1> it works fine in windows
[02:26] <liquiem> skavenge: if you want to, you can, or course
[02:26] <ToHellWithGA> i don't know what else is in /var but have not had to hand-place or edit any of it yet and so wouldn't miss it in the event of a failure or new OS installation
[02:26] <stealth1> anyone?  it has an ati mobility 9200
[02:27] <stealth1> i tried installing the drivers from ati.com, but it just messed up the screen
[02:27] <stealth1> i dont want to have to go back to xp!
[02:27] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: it's a question of balance.  If /var/www is gonna be huge, then it makes sense to split it out.  /var is meant for files that get changed often.  For people who like to mount / read-only, /var is a good splitting point.  It's all described in teh filesystem standard (google FSSTND).
[02:28] <stealth1> please pm me if you can help me out, tia
[02:28] <salah> any idea how to burn a vcd?
[02:28] <livingdaylight> anto9us: ouch
[02:28] <freddyubuntu> have  any of u seen a CD Writer break inside ubuntu?
[02:29] <livingdaylight>  :|
[02:29] <freddyubuntu> i tried to write a BOOT CD , ubuntu broked my CD WRITER
[02:29] <nacho_wide> is there a way of setting up a partition that I can share between windows & ubuntu?
[02:29] <freddyubuntu> i just restarted when ubuntu hanged...
[02:29] <freddyubuntu> and now my cd writer doenst work at all
[02:29] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: somebody told me the filesystem standard was a good way to start undestanding linux.  i'm more for playing around and knowing just enough to get by than understanding.  that and it was a big .pdf if i remember correctly
[02:29] <dibblego> freddyubuntu, please go to bed - solve it the next day
[02:29] <anto9us> livingdaylight, it happens, I've been caught myself too, never trust a backup till you've restored from it and proven it works, that's my motto
[02:29] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: run "du -s /var"  (du = Disk Usage) on your current system to see how big the /var tree is.  If you think /var/www will grow to make /var double what it is already, then it makes sense for /var/www to be a separate filesystem.  The risk is that the smaller your partitions, the sooner they'll run out of space and you might end up w/ lots of unused space on the wrong partitions.
[02:29] <paracelx> can somebody please help, im new to ubuntu/linux and trying to setup snes9x and about to go crazy
[02:30] <darkfox> freddyubuntu: enough trolling for one night..
[02:30] <liquiem> nacho_wide: uhm, well, you can use ntfstools for ntfs read/write or use ext2/3 and use the windows driver from read7write access or you can setup a partition as fat32/vfat that can be access from linux and windows
[02:30] <Kibou> paracelx: zsnes > snes9x ;)
[02:30] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: FSSTND should be available as a .txt and you should be able to browse it quickly to get a sense of what the 5 or 6 big directory trees are all about.  You can read more as you need.
[02:30] <paracelx> i have downloaded it as well but it says it cant find a decent c compiler
[02:31] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i could always use parted to resize partitions as needed, couldn't i?
[02:31] <paracelx> when i type ./configure
[02:31] <nacho_wide> so both will be able to access a fat32/vfat partition?
[02:31] <Kibou> a decent?
[02:31] <paracelx> just want to play chrono trigger :)
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> ic56: Can parted resize ext3 ?
[02:31] <freddyubuntu> i have put 48 hours on this problem... and now everybody is a bitch to me
[02:31] <liquiem> nacho_wide: yes
[02:31] <skavenge> snes9x used to be in the repos, you shouldnt need to compile
[02:31] <freddyubuntu> fuck you
[02:31] <freddyubuntu> bye
[02:31] <paracelx> i think something like that im booting up my laptop right now and ill let you know exact
[02:31] <liquiem> h3sp4wn: yes, it can, but just to the right side
[02:31] <ToHellWithGA> i loathe reading on monitors rather than paper.  it makes me a bad hippie to print my docs but also allows me to read about features of my desktop installation while drinking wine in the park :D
[02:31] <Kibou> paracelx: did you install build-essential?
[02:32] <nacho_wide> liquiem: thx.  any partition program that you suggest in particular?
[02:32] <paracelx> all i installed was the latest version of ubuntu and then did the liveupdate
[02:32] <discombobulated> does Ubuntu use Xfree86 4.3 ?
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> lisquiem what can ?
[02:32] <discombobulated> or X.org?
[02:32] <LjL> discombobulated: ubuntu uses Xorg
[02:32] <Kibou> paracelx: well install build-essential and I think zsnes needs nams as well
[02:32] <liquiem> nacho_wide: (g)parted is fine, just make a partition for it and make a fs on it
[02:32] <discombobulated> oh, ok thanks
[02:32] <Kibou> nasm*
[02:32] <paracelx> ok thanks ill look for them now
[02:32] <zquirm> Hi. I'm running ubuntu server, in console mode; no X. I have a DELL 2001fp, and when the system boots up, the video mode is the standard 640x480 @ 60hz. All is well. Yet, the moment the linux kernel loads, it switches into 640x350 @ 70hz.. This makes the console unusable, as you can't see the whole thing.
[02:32] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: I've never resized a unix partition.  But there are such beasts as resizable partitions, at least in AIX, dunno about Linux.  Anyway, if you have backup media, trashing your disk and re-partitioning is easy.
[02:33] <nacho_wide> liquiem: fs?
[02:33] <darkfox> no point in messing around with parted to resize partitions... do it right and use LVM :/
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> lisquiem: Can I make a 250gb linux partition into 2 125mg's easily ?
[02:33] <zquirm> What can be done?
[02:33] <liquiem> h3sp4wn: resizing contains of 2 parts. resizing the partition and resizing the filesystem.
[02:33] <paracelx> bbl to let u know if works thanks again
[02:33] <LjL> ic56: you *can* resize ext3 with parted
[02:33] <liquiem> nacho_wide: fs = filesystem
[02:33] <zquirm> Ugh, I'm starting to get really upset about this. I've been asking for hours.
[02:34] <ic56> h3sp4wn: I have never used parted. LjL claims it *can* resize ext3
[02:34] <ic56> thanks, LjL
[02:34] <nacho_wide> liquiem: ok.  great, thanks
[02:34] <LjL> ic56, h3sp4wn: of course i cannot guarrantee that it's a safe process. but i did try it, and it worked for me. i recommend using GParted for a reasonably easy GUI
[02:34] <liquiem> zquirm: have you changed your boot cmdline or framebuffer?
[02:34] <nacho_wide> anyone know why www.winehq.com doesn't work?
[02:34] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: with DVD-RW as backup media it is tedious and unpleasant to backup my data.  i have already moved my space-hungry media to a separate drive, mounted as /largedrive, but still have a good deal of things on the main drive.  thanks for your help today.
[02:35] <zquirm> liquiem: no.
[02:35] <anto9us> zquirm, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enter your monitor settings
[02:35] <liquiem> anto9us: no X ;)
[02:35] <skavenge> he's cli
[02:35] <zquirm> anto9us: You didn't read what I wrote.
[02:35] <LjL> zquirm: there is a "vesa=" kernel parameter and a "vga=" kernel parameter that you can try
[02:35] <darkfox> ToHellWithGA: if you use LVM you can change partition sizes pretty much whenever you want, add new disks and have partitions spread over multiple disks etc etc.... http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[02:35] <Gullstad> How do I setup a SSH-connection to the Ubuntu-Desktop?
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> LiL: I will try it then (I want to convert the whole disk to UFS2 really switching the machine to FreeBSD
[02:35] <Lukian_> h3sp4wn: can i have the other 249.75gb ?
[02:35] <anto9us> zquirm, sorry, no, just the last bit
[02:35] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: you're welcome. Just how many DVDs does it take to backup everything except /largedrive on your system?
[02:36] <liquiem> zquirm: can you post the output of cat /proc/cmdline?
[02:36] <zquirm> in the system BIOS, it's perfectly fine at 640x480... if I boot off a DOS boot disk, it's perfectly fine; 640x480 ... yet, the MOMENT the linux kernel loads, it goes into this unusable 640x350
[02:36] <init7> has anyone maybe got an idea why my USB Card-Reader doesn't work anymore since the dapper release kernel?
[02:36] <zquirm> liquiem: sure
[02:36] <darkfox> nacho_wide: do you mean www.winehq.org?  works for me
[02:36] <LjL> zquirm: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Kernel_parameters  not too good, but it should give a clue as for the syntax of those kernel parameters
[02:36] <cassio> hi everybody! i'm into breezy and want to use my sony digicam! how can i connect it? usb is not recovering the cam when i plug it
[02:37] <stazich> hi, ia am trying to get X to start, and seem to be following through the directions as stated on the sites and people have luck with but i keep having same problem.. i believe the error is to do something with the fonts. like i dont have any. does anyone know how to fix this? the machine is imac ppc btw
[02:37] <nacho_wide> darkfox: yeah.  i can't seem to connect.  to either .com or .org, just tried
[02:37] <Lukian> cassio: use a card reader
[02:37] <stazich> the error message that i get is: could not open default font "fixed"
[02:37] <zquirm> root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[02:37] <livingdaylight> Guys! don't be mad at me, but i'm actually downloading SUSE 10.1 DVD. I do love Ubuntu though. I just need to play the field...
[02:38] <liquiem> nacho_wide: try http://209.32.141.3 ^^
[02:38] <nacho_wide> liquiem: (g)parted and QTParted the same?
[02:38] <cassio> Lukian, how? what's this?
[02:38] <LjL> zquirm: i suggest (not knowing any better) that you try the "vga=ask" parameter. that one should show a menu at boot up where you can choose the resolution. next time you'll know exactly what number to put after "vga=" for the desired resolution
[02:38] <brent_>  what the hell is this line?
[02:38] <liquiem> nacho_wide: it's the same, just different toolkits for the gui
[02:38] <zquirm> LjL: but it should work without that
[02:38] <nacho_wide> ok
[02:38] <livingdaylight>  '<
[02:38] <LjL> zquirm: eh, it should, but apparently it doesn't. what should i say?
[02:38] <zquirm> I just want linux to use a regular old console mode
[02:38] <zquirm> like it always has
[02:39] <LjL> zquirm: "vga=xyz" *is* regular console mode, although "vesa=xyz" on the other hand is intended, i think, for making it use the framebuffer
[02:39] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: three.  i'm getting some errors when running that cpio command.  i've pastebinned them at http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/66695
[02:39] <brent_> and has it disapointed you?
[02:39] <liquiem> zquirm: that means it fails for sudden?
[02:39] <Kibou> it shouldn't change the resolution at all.. something is borked
[02:39] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: looking...
[02:39] <zquirm> liquiem: sorry I didn't understand, sudden what?
[02:39] <Lukian> zquirm: then install 'server'
[02:40] <chapium> :(
[02:40] <cassio> hi everybody! i'm into breezy and want to use my sony digicam! how can i connect it? usb is not recovering the cam when i plug it
[02:40] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: it looks like it's trying to make a directory called "." and choking on it
[02:40] <liquiem> zquirm: does it happen everytime or just since a few days or something?
[02:40] <LjL> Lukian: why?
[02:40] <chapium> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot microphone issues?
[02:40] <zquirm> Lukian: 'server' ?
[02:40] <forevernoob> i am trying to get sounds to work.. i can get standard sound.. but i want the cool 5.1 digital out to work as well... any tips?
[02:40] <zquirm> liquiem: It happens since I brought the box to the place where it needs to reside
[02:40] <darkfox> stazich: sudo apt-get install xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable
[02:40] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: oh, yeah.  you should run this command as root.  Both the find and the cpio need to be root.  Easiest if you "sudo su" and then issue the ocmmand.
[02:40] <zquirm> another analog display was able to handle this mode, it seems, without cutting anything off
[02:40] <Lukian> install a server distro, you shouldn't get any unneeded extras like this giving you hassle? :p
[02:40] <brent_> cassio, I am not sure on your machine? but maybe youshould tell peple so they can help?
[02:41] <Bassetts> can someone help me, i am getting errors when trying to run a java script
[02:41] <LjL> ic56: nitpick: "sudo -i" or, sometimes, "sudo -s" is adviceable over "sudo su", which is redundant
[02:41] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: it's because /temporary is owned by root (as it should be)
[02:41] <chapium> java or js?
[02:41] <anto9us> cassio, I've found some cameras don't mount properly on Linux or their memory sometimes needs reformating under Linux if the media is removable
[02:41] <Bassetts> chapium: its a .jar
[02:41] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: would "sudo find . -print |sudo cpio -pamd /temporary" do the trick as well?
[02:41] <Samus_Aran> are there any repositories that keep WINE somewhat up-to-date ?  it's currently 10 versions behind
[02:42] <cassio> brent_, i'm into breezy, pIII with 192 mb ram, using xfce
[02:42] <liquiem> zquirm: uhm, no idea, sorry. last bet would be look into dmesg if there something strange in it
[02:42] <LjL> !tell Samus_Aran about wine
[02:42] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran: you could always build from source
[02:42] <cassio> anto9us, i'm using only the internal memory
[02:42] <brent_> uh, ok what was the question again?
[02:42] <LjL> ToHellWithGA, Samus_Aran: no need, those packages are quite up to date
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: the primary reason I switched to Ubuntu was for its very large repository of pre-built packages
[02:42] <anto9us> cassio, does lsusb show the device?
[02:42] <ic56> LjL: I know.  Since I grew up with su, I find it easier to remember.  I'd rather not accidentally advise someone to use the wrong sudo flag.
[02:42] <liquiem> Samus_Aran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[02:42] <ToHellWithGA> or use qemu if you'd be better suited by emulation of an actual windows OS (which you'd have to provide) than by WINE
[02:43] <zquirm> liquiem: yeah, thanks for trying to help, I'm just stumped and annoyed ;/
[02:43] <LjL> ic56: i see
[02:43] <forevernoob> is there a way to get ubuntu to reprobe my sound card to see if i can get it to work
[02:43] <nacho_wide> anyone know why my totem won't play a DVD?
[02:43] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: I don't have tieme anymore for building source, I've spent the past six years doing so =p
[02:43] <Samus_Aran> liquiem: will take a look, thanks
[02:43] <ThePub> silly question, where's the configuration for what's on the desktop (i.e. what drives, etc) under gnome?
[02:43] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide: have you enabled multiverse?
[02:43] <forevernoob> nacho: do you have libdvd installed?
[02:43] <liquiem> Samus_Aran: then you havent learned the basics ;)
[02:43] <liquiem> like asking google or looking into the wikis out there
[02:43] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran: a few minutes after six years should be a drop in the pond to you :D
[02:43] <cassio> anto9us, yes it does :)
[02:43] <crimsun> forevernoob: what's the issue w/ your sound?
[02:44] <jdrake> With the recent updates that have shown up in the updater, a lot of gnome stuff is there - has anyone had any problems with these?
[02:44] <skavenge> wine is updated pretty regularly i dont think i've ever used a distro that was anything  near up to date heh
[02:44] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: not yet, just a sec
[02:44] <forevernoob> crimsum:  just installed new card.  it works (sort of) but can't get optical out to work
[02:44] <anto9us> cassio, dmesg should list what happens (and any errors) when you plug it in
[02:44] <Samus_Aran> liquiem: I haven't slept in over 36 hours at the moment .. I was already on IRC.  I don't currently have my web browser handy, Ubuntu keeps uninstalling Opera (it thinks it is broken, because of a virtual package)
[02:44] <liquiem> forevernoob: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp ^^
[02:44] <darkfox> debian unstable wine is 0.9.12 vs winehq.org's 0.9.14
[02:44] <brent_> ok so I am going to suck it up,... kids who know flux I want aterm to work with what I tell it to but I can't find where to tell it too,... helpplease
[02:44] <LjL> liquiem: well, you're obviously right about the google thing, but honestly it didn't take me much hassle to type "!tell Samus_Aran about wine"
[02:44] <crimsun> forevernoob: which card?
[02:45] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: how do I enable?
[02:45] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: but I want it to be updatable automatically.  it's a time-comittment thing, as WINE has new versions very often, and it is a verrrrrry slow compile, heh
[02:45] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: no, quoting the pipeline to pass it to sudo won't work.  There are ways around this but why bother? Just sudo -i and you save yourself having to eval and escape your way out of a sea of complications.
[02:45] <liquiem> LjL: i dont know the public commands until now ;)
[02:45] <Bassetts> when i try to run a java script i get "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jibble/logbot/LogBotMain"
[02:45] <zquirm> oh, one little thing of significance
[02:45] <forevernoob> crimsum: don't laugh but it is called a dynex dx-sc51.... but it has the chipset  VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[02:45] <zquirm> this happens the moment the ubuntu install disk boots as well
[02:45] <ToHellWithGA> !multiverse
[02:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:45] <zquirm> not just my actual install
[02:45] <zquirm> does the same thing in a liveboot
[02:45] <ToHellWithGA> there ya go, nacho_wide ^
[02:46] <ThePub> Bassetts:  there's a problem with how you're running your java :)
[02:46] <crimsun> forevernoob: snd_ice1724 should work just fine. Are you using the plug:iec958 output?
[02:46] <LjL> Samus_Aran: trust me, those packages are faily well up to date, you can get them with apt-get, and have your coffee ;)
[02:46] <Samus_Aran> if someone knows how to get Opera to stop uninstalling every time I install anything, would be nice.  it is built for the previous release of Ubuntu, which had a virtual package which just set the package manager to download two libraries ... which are included now in the 6.06 release
[02:46] <Bassetts> ThePub: how do i fix it
[02:46] <ThePub> Bassetts:  probably put the classpath in wrong when you setup your java command.
[02:46] <crimsun> forevernoob: and did you install alsa-tools-gui to use envy24control?
[02:46] <brent_> you kids helping casio?] 
[02:46] <forevernoob> crimsun: you just lost me...
[02:46] <Bassetts> ThePub: so how do i change that
[02:46] <LiteHedded> when I go to mount a samba share why does it want the username to be guest?
[02:46] <forevernoob> crimsun: nope i will install now though
[02:46] <ThePub> Bassetts:  don't ask me, it's going to be specific to whatever you were running.
[02:46] <Bassetts> ThePub: ok =(
[02:46] <harri3844> where is the public key for dapper's apt repository located?
[02:46] <LiteHedded> it's greyed out and I cant change it when mapping it on windows
[02:47] <LjL> !key
[02:47] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LjL
[02:47] <darkfox> samus_aran: can you not just sudo apt-get remove opera  ?
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: I want it installed !
[02:47] <EnsignRedshirt> anto9us: I tried booting the 6.06 CD again, and this time waited 25 minutes. Still nothing.
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: I want it to stop being removed
[02:47] <cassio> anto9us, it doesn't (or i don't understand it...)
[02:47] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: there i go what?  i'm lost
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: it has all the libraries it requires, except for a container-package that is no longer in existence, but the things in it are
[02:47] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: got it, nm
[02:48] <harri3844> LjL: is there a key on this site?
[02:48] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, add some boot parameters like apic=off and acpi=off, if i have the semantics of thsoe correct, I think I do
[02:48] <Samus_Aran> is 6.06 breezy or dapper or what ?
[02:48] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide: after doing that, open up synaptic and search for "dvd" and you'll likely find the packages you need to watch DVDs.  cheers.
[02:48] <LjL> harri3844: no. i believed that ubotu had a "key" factoid, but it doesn't.
[02:48] <darkfox> samus_aran: oh sorry :)  in that case you should be able to unpack the .deb, change the depends line, rebuilt it and install that.
[02:48] <skavenge> dapper
[02:48] <anto9us> cassio, can you pastebin them?
[02:48] <jighead> LiteHedded, can you access the share from other machines? is the share on the win box setup as guest-only
[02:48] <LjL> harri3844: i'm trying to find the place
[02:48] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: can you point me in the direction of how to do that ?
[02:48] <LiteHedded> it's shared on linux
[02:48] <harri3844> LjL: ok
[02:48] <LiteHedded> not windows
[02:48] <LiteHedded> with samba
[02:48] <Dreamglider> on FAT32 is 4gb the biggest filesize possible ?
[02:49] <cassio> anto9us, where?
[02:49] <anto9us> Dreamglider, from memory, yes, that's right
[02:49] <Samus_Aran> Dreamglider: that is the maximum biggest file size, heh
[02:49] <anto9us> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:49] <Samus_Aran> Dreamglider: sometimes it is half that, though
[02:49] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: this would work:  sudo sh -c '<pipeline of commands>'
[02:49] <liquidten2> Dreamglider:  Yes, either 2GB or 4GB files are the largest, depending on the block count.
[02:49] <liquidten2> (form memory)
[02:49] <liquiem> Dreamglider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32
[02:49] <zquirm> What's the right way to use a static IP and stop using dhcp ?
[02:49] <darkfox> Samus_Aran,: trying to find a reference, but there are other workarounds here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185985
[02:50] <discombobulated> how do I start terminal from a window, so I dont have to keep CD'ing?
[02:50] <LiteHedded> why can't i authenticate with samba?
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> Dreamglider: discombobulated: kdesu konsole
[02:50] <alpha255> LiteHedded: did you do smbpasswd -a user on the server?
[02:50] <brent_> I will be back later,
[02:50] <anto9us> cassio, sorry, that factiod isn't very good, pastebin,org is the site, it will give you a link of the text you paste
[02:50] <LjL> zquirm: in theory, the best way would be to make it from the Gnome GUI preferences. otherwise, if that fails, i guess /etc/network/interfaces
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> er, not you Dreamglider
[02:50] <darkfox> Samus_Aran: and for the approach i was talking about, you can see an example of how to do it for skype here: http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=169829&highlight= ... should be easy to adapt
[02:50] <MrSiggler> The latest version of the fglrx ati drivers in Ubuntu do not work with R200 based Radeons, which I have. Is there a way to install an older version using synaptec, etc?
[02:50] <chapium> anyone able to get their mic working?
[02:51] <zquirm> LjL: is there a ncurses configger?
[02:51] <discombobulated> Samus_Aran: eh?
[02:51] <zquirm> no X
[02:51] <jighead> LiteHedded, are you mounting from a windows bos or another linux box?
[02:51] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: by pipeline you mean "command1 options |command2 options |... |commandN options"?
[02:51] <LiteHedded> from windows
[02:51] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes
[02:51] <LjL> zquirm: i don't think so. but if you have no X, then i guess just go straight to /etc/network/interfaces. if you hold on a minute i'll paste you my configuration, the syntax is easy
[02:51] <alpha255> LiteHedded: xp or win me , 98 95
[02:51] <LiteHedded> jighead: mounting from windows xp
[02:51] <harri3844> LjL: I found it
[02:51] <harri3844> LjL: thanks anyways
[02:51] <LiteHedded> alpha255: mounting from windows xp :)
[02:51] <LjL> harri3844: cool. i didn't
[02:52] <alpha255> LiteHedded:  did you setup the account on the linux server?
[02:52] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: do i exit a sudo su using exit?
[02:52] <LjL> zquirm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15884
[02:52] <jighead> LiteHedded, can you pastebin your smb.conf file
[02:52] <liquiem> zquirm: the configger is nano or vi ;)
[02:52] <ToHellWithGA> nevermind, i just did
[02:52] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes on exit sudo su  too.
[02:52] <anto9us> cassio, sorry, make that pastebin.com
[02:52] <LiteHedded> i'm setting it up through the kde (i'm on kubuntu) gui interface maybe that's my problem
[02:52] <LjL> zquirm: just change your "eth0" entry so that it looks similar to mine (with the right addresses, of course), rather than saying "dhcp"
[02:52] <LiteHedded> pastebin url please
[02:53] <ToHellWithGA> LiteHedded: pastebin.ca
[02:53] <zquirm> k
[02:53] <jighead> !tell LiteHedded about pastebin
[02:53] <alpha255> LiteHedded:  i use terminal as root... smbpasswd -a userwhologsinviawindows
[02:54] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: tell me if i'm asking too much of you.  i don't want to annoy you with my noob issues.  my output was http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/66698 and i'd like to know what it means that a file "grew"
[02:54] <sjoerd_> Is there anyone here using network manager?
[02:54] <anto9us> well, I'm more than tired, scanning text and missing half of it, night all :)
[02:54] <liquiem> is there something like depclean for ubuntu or a way to find orphaned packages?
[02:54] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: thank you
[02:54] <RadiantFire> mmm liquiem
[02:54] <RadiantFire> i don't think so
[02:55] <[sam] > hi
[02:55] <jighead> liquiem, deborphan
[02:55] <LiteHedded> alpha255: WORKING THANKS!
[02:55] <moonlite> i need the "lndir" command but it doesn't seem to be included in ubuntu anymore according to a bug report i launchpad
[02:55] <chapium> argh, why is rhythmbox so buggy
[02:55] <[sam] > is it correct spelling "Konversation"
[02:55] <liquiem> long time ago, i used debian and .. exactly, thanks, that sounds right ^^
[02:55] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: questions no problem.  the more you learn, the more you'll be able to help others too.  It's exponential growth!  Looking...
[02:55] <alpha255> LiteHedded: np :)
[02:55] <Samus_Aran> gotta get some things done then sleep at last.  g'dau a;;
[02:55] <lonran> hi
[02:55] <Samus_Aran> *g'day all
[02:55] <moonlite> i'm ok, with compiling it myself, but the source can't be found.
[02:55] <cassio> anto9us, soyy.. i'm back
[02:55] <cassio> i'll paste it
[02:55] <moonlite> anyone know where i can find a current tar.gz?
[02:55] <forevernoob> HellWithGA: it says envycontrol is bundled with alas-tools-gui... but when i run alsamixer i don't see any settings for anything digitial
[02:56] <lonran> how can i change properties of multiples songs in rythmbox at the same time?
[02:56] <[sam] > moonlite, there are mirror sites where u can download them
[02:56] <moonlite> [sam] : thanks
[02:56] <skavenge> [sam] ; no, c instead of k ..
[02:56] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: that's exactly why you need envy24control.  the alsamixer is crap for ice cards
[02:56] <moonlite> i've been googling for 10 minutes, do you have any idea where these mirror sites are?
[02:56] <ToHellWithGA> it just plain won't take care of your mixing.  envy24control is designed for cards with complex settings
[02:56] <sjoerd_> Anyone here that uses, or knows anything about, Network Manager Gnome ?
[02:56] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  sorry i didn't find it repositories.. i will look harder
[02:57] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: are you using breezy or dapper?
[02:57] <cassio> anto9us,  the dmsg output => http://pastebin.com/715745
[02:57] <[sam] > these developers like to invent things, like Konsole instead of console
[02:57] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: I don't know what that message means.  Unfortunately, unix manuals for the last couple decades haven't payed attention to documenting the meanings of each error message.  I can try to guess what it means though...
[02:57] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGa: dapper
[02:57] <skavenge> [sam] ; yeah they use the k instead of c for alot of KDE applications
[02:57] <LiteHedded> alpha255: when I reboot this machine will the samba setup stay there?
[02:57] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGa: i am a retard
[02:57] <forevernoob> found it
[02:57] <darkfox> night all
[02:58] <alpha255> nite
[02:58] <LiteHedded> it's going to be a headless fileserver for now
[02:58] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: alsa-tools and alsa-tools-gui will do it for ya ;)
[02:58] <cassio> anto9us, lsusb output => http://pastebin.com/715747
[02:58] <LjL> LiteHedded: actually *headless*? not just light-headed?
[02:58] <LjL> (sorry)
[02:58] <LiteHedded> heh
[02:58] <LiteHedded> no monitor ;)
[02:58] <aaron> Hey folks.  I just installed Dapper server, and I was wondering what the name of the all-encompassing gnome2 package is.  I've found and installed xserver-xorg...but what else do I need to get a fully functional gnome desktop?
[02:58] <myavuzselim> I removed per accident /usr/lib/glib2.0, does it contain runtime libraries?
[02:58] <skavenge> why install server if you want a gui?
[02:59] <liquiem> aaron: would be ubuntu-desktop iirc
[02:59] <LjL> aaron: ubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <LjL> aaron: (yeah, why install server if you want a GUI ;) also, server has no sound AFAICR)
[02:59] <aaron> LjL: Excellent.  Thanks for your help.
[02:59] <alpha255> skavenge: that was my thought
[02:59] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: until you're very comfortable with linux, packaging, and building from source, don't be so hard on yourself.  coming from something other than linux to linux is a hell of a learning curve, and rewarding to boot.
[02:59] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: best guess, cpio detected a long sequence of 0s in that file and thought it might be a sparse file (which it wasn't).  So it tried to copy it without using any storage for those zeros but found it wasn't practical to do so and ended up occupying a sector to store them.  So it reports that the file "grew" -- by 0 bytes -- ie it consumes the same amount of disk as it did before.
[02:59] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  o.k. when i execute envy24control i get  No ICE1712 cards found... this is what i get from lspci :0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[02:59] <aaron> LjL: Well, it's primarily going to be a servermachine, and I wasn't clear on what all was different.  :)
[02:59] <skavenge> *shrug* i've seen people do stranger things
[03:00] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: that's insteresting.  i don't know the ice1720 chipset.  mine is ice1712.
[03:00] <morphix> a server machine with gnome :|
[03:00] <alpha255> aaron: i'd look into ispconfig if you want a web based way to manage the box
[03:00] <liquiem> terminal machine or vnc server ^^
[03:00] <LjL> aaron: i think desktop would be more appropriate, as as far as my understanding goes server is more geared towards *very* powerful machines. but still, you may be fine with server if you don't need sound and that sort of goodies
[03:01] <morphix> * aaron has quit IRC (Client Quit) <<
[03:01] <LjL> ops
[03:01] <alpha255> he'd have learned more if he stayed
[03:01] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: try comparing the original and new files to make sure nothing untoward happend: cmp <oldfile> <newfile>
[03:01] <hanasaki> on 6.06 sound-juicer is giving .. Reason: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.
[03:01] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  well i can always take it back to BestBuy.. but i will look around a little more now that I have a better feel for what is going on
[03:02] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: if you don't mind my asking, how much did you pay for your card and what will you be doing?  i'm very happy with my US$120 M-Audio card and it works like a charm in linux (and used to :D in windows)
[03:02] <nacho_wide> i think the DVD i am playing "tears of the sun" is encrypted.  it plays in windows...I tried a couple packages but none seem to work.  any thoughts on how to get this to go?  thx guys
[03:03] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide: libdvdcss (iirc)
[03:03] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA: it was only 38.00...  I know it was the only card they had with 5.1/optical out.  so i figured what the hell
[03:03] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide$ apt-cache search css
[03:04] <Archon> can unbuntu's GNOME interface's panels be compined into 1 panel (like Windows)?
[03:04] <cassio> anto9us, any clue?
[03:04] <LjL> Archon: sure, just remove one
[03:04] <forevernoob> nacho_wide:  if you are new to all this and want all the media to work. and don't have issues with laws/liceincng and stuff.. use easyubuntu to get all that stuff set up.. works perfectly
[03:04] <Archon> LjL: and all the panel's applets can be on any panel?
[03:04] <LjL> Archon: yes. right click on the panel, and you can add, move and remove anything
[03:04] <Archon> thanks
[03:04] <kmilo> Archon, yes
[03:04] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: i personally prefer coax out because coaxial cables are cheaper per distance unless you're a cracked-out audiophile geek using super-fancy analog cable for your digital transmission
[03:05] <liquiem> Archon: sure, rightclick empty panel space and choose add applet
[03:05] <LjL> Archon: you can have a weather applet too and that sort of gimmicks on the panel
[03:05] <Archon> heh, thanks all
[03:05] <nacho_wide> forevernoob: what is easyubuntu?
[03:06] <LjL> Archon: what you cannot have on the panel, though, is the current application's menu bar, in case you're thinking MacOS
[03:06] <Archon> the other question: I've got ubuntu warty warthog (4.10 i think), can i just install it, and 'update' it after the installation to bring it to the latest 6.06 (including optimisations, themes, programs)?
[03:06] <Archon> LjL: no, it's fine
[03:06] <LjL> Archon: no you can't
[03:06] <Archon> so i have to get the latest one again?
[03:06] <LjL> Archon: you should upgrade to hoary, then to breezy, and then to dapper. me, i bet it'd be easier to install from scratch
[03:06] <forevernoob> nacho_wide: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:07] <Archon> ok thanks again
[03:07] <alpha255> LjL: what about updating from flight 5 though?
[03:07] <LjL> alpha255: dapper flight 5? should work, i think.
[03:07] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  i dont' really care how i get digital audio out.. my player will take coax or optical... but it has been a pain to find something that just works ...
[03:07] <crash9877> hi all
[03:08] <alpha255> LjL: apt-get dist-update iirc
[03:08] <LjL> alpha255: yep. can't swear on it, but i feel that would work flawlessly
[03:08] <alpha255> LjL: thnx
[03:08] <alpha255> :)
[03:08] <MrKeuner> anyone here successfully running fglrx with latest 686 kernel in dapper?
[03:08] <MrKeuner> should i have a fglrx.ko under /lib/modules/... ?
[03:09] <crash9877> anyone using an ibm rapid access ii keyboard?
[03:09] <jighead> MrKeuner, check /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile
[03:09] <jighead> MrKeuner, lsmod is the command to see your loaded modules
[03:10] <[sam] > what does emerge pcmcia-cs do? anyone knows?
[03:10] <crash9877> i mean it works perfectly but i cant get all multimedia keys working
[03:10] <LjL> [sam] : in ubuntu, nothing. it might do something in gentoo i guess
[03:10] <alpha255> lineak
[03:10] <alpha255> crash9877: lineak
[03:10] <liquiem> LjL: ^^
[03:10] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  i found this... maybe i will hack at it for a while
[03:10] <[sam] > does emerge update the system
[03:11] <crash9877> tried that but doesnt work that good
[03:11] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I do not have an fglrx.ko this is a problem right?
[03:11] <alpha255> crash9877: don't know if there is a package for it though
[03:11] <liquiem> [sam] : on gentoo it would install the pcmcia-cs package
[03:11] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_ice1724
[03:11] <jighead> [sam] , on gentoo it does, on ubuntu you use aptitude or apt-get
[03:11] <HedgeMage> sampan: emerge is the command for the package manager portage on gentoo
[03:11] <liquiem> [sam] : emerge on ubunto does nothing as said before
[03:11] <HedgeMage> sampan: try asking in #gentoo if you want to talk about that distro
[03:11] <[sam] > that's for all debian based linux,right
[03:11] <alpha255> crash9877: well, help the developer with making it work better... there is a note on the right side of the webpage to get your keyboard working
[03:11] <liquiem> [sam] : gentoo isnt debian based
[03:11] <jighead> MrKeuner, yes, you need to get the restricted modules
[03:12] <LjL> [sam] : hm? gentoo is not debian based, and debian based distros don't have emerge
[03:12] <[sam] > yea, i mean apt-get
[03:12] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I did installed them
[03:12] <threat> hi
[03:12] <threat> gentoo is ports based (FreeBSD)
[03:12] <alpha255> crash9877: you'll get your name in lights on the page :)
[03:12] <crash9877> alpha255; the keyboard itself works but 4 example raising the volume or mute wont work with gnome key bindings
[03:12] <jighead> MrKeuner, have you rebooted since you installed them?
[03:13] <MrKeuner> jighead/ yes
[03:13] <nomasteryoda> so has anyone used the fglrx ubuntu drivers on a dell 4150 inspiron and they worked?
[03:13] <Dial_tone> well I got ati 3d acceleration but its still pretty slow
[03:14] <LjL> [sam] : anyway on ubuntu you'd do sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs, yeah. except that pcmcia-cs is installed by default
[03:14] <jighead> MrKeuner, do you have anything under /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-686/volatile?
[03:14] <crash9877> alpha255, searched the web for rapidaccess but none useful information.
[03:14] <nomasteryoda> ah, just wanted to get ppracer working on it
[03:14] <crash9877> tried chaning xorg.conf etc. but no effect
[03:14] <threat> what is volatile?
[03:14] <threat> RAM disc?
[03:14] <jighead> threat, tmpfs
[03:14] <alpha255> crash9877: http://lineak.sourceforge.net/index.php?nav=showdoc&docid=LinEAK_support_HOWTO&doctitle=Keyboard%20support%20HOWTO
[03:15] <nomasteryoda> Dial_tone, just ordered me a mini-pci wifi chip for this thing now... cost $22
[03:15] <nomasteryoda> a/b/g intel and claims out there that it works with ubuntu
[03:15] <nomasteryoda> xxing fingers am i
[03:15] <nomasteryoda> all 6 of them
[03:15] <alpha255> crash9877: it looks like the guy will do most of the work to make it better
[03:15] <nomasteryoda> =D
[03:15] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: i like m-audio as a company.  a lot of their products cater to independent musicians.  if you can afford it the 5.1 is $99 and i'd highly recommend stepping up to the $120 model for analog I/O options
[03:16] <ToHellWithGA> then again, that's a far cry from sub-$40
[03:16] <threat> jighead, I see, how it is hard disk space that is deleting on reboot?
[03:16] <threat> how = so
[03:16] <threat> jighead, SWAP space?
[03:16] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I have rebooted into old kernel -23 actually. since I thought may be it was a prolem with the new kernel. anyways there are some  files under /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/volatile no files under/lib/modules/2.6.15-25-686/volatile
[03:16] <Cntryboy> I forgot the command to untar files, does anyone know this .tgz is extension
[03:16] <LjL> Cntryboy: tar -xfj filename
[03:16] <Cntryboy> k thx
[03:16] <Dial_tone> good
[03:16] <DoctorMO> does anyone have Wengo?
[03:16] <LjL> sorry, tar -xf filename
[03:16] <crash9877> alpha255, thx thats what i did. 4 keys are dead
[03:16] <alpha255> tar -xvvzf foo.tar.gz
[03:17] <Cntryboy> ya'll lost me
[03:17] <LjL> do what alpha said
[03:17] <Cntryboy> so many different -als;dfj letters
[03:17] <jighead> threat, MrKeuner /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile is created at boot time as a tmpfs, so it will only show up under the active kernel's module dir
[03:17] <detectiveinspekt> I want to change my sources to the default ones because the server hasn't been updated
[03:17] <crash9877> so i swapped the keyboards against another rapid access but same thing
[03:17] <Cntryboy> is it better what he said ljl?
[03:17] <alpha255> crash9877: oh man... that would make it *very* tough to use those keys ;)
[03:17] <detectiveinspekt> where can I get a list of default repos?
[03:17] <jighead> threat, MrKeuner it is how Ubuntu gets around the restrictive licenses, they never actually *distribute* that software
[03:17] <LjL> Cntryboy: i'm not sure. it's just that i have a habit of doing "gunzip filename.tar.gz" and then "tar -xf filename.tar" (a useless habit), so i can never be sure that i remember the "short" tar-only command
[03:18] <threat> jighead, do go on
[03:18] <crash9877> so i exchanged it with a logitech media keyboard and it works. thx god i have more pcs that i can handle
[03:18] <forevernoob> ToHellWithVA: money isn't quite the issue... i will look them up and see if i can get a card off of newegg... thanks for the suggestion
[03:18] <crash9877> hehehhehhehehe
[03:18] <liquiem> Cntryboy: tar xvzf file.tgz ... x extract, v verbose, z gzip compression, f following text is the filename
[03:18] <threat> jighead, so because it is in temparary memory it is ok?
[03:18] <jighead> MrKeuner, so if you have linux-restricted-modules-686 installed and boot to the 686 kernel, you should see volatile under the 686 module dir and not the 386
[03:18] <Cntryboy> what about the - liquiem?
[03:18] <alpha255> detectiveinspekt: less /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:18] <crash9877> a pitty acutally cause i love my rapid keyboard
[03:19] <liquiem> Cntryboy: the - is just to show that there are options following
[03:19] <alpha255> crash9877: maybe you can get one on ebay for cheap that has those 4 keys working
[03:19] <jighead> threat, I am not a laywer, but the way I understand it, yes, it's not on the disk, it does not survive the boots, so it is not distributed with ubuntu
[03:19] <Cntryboy> okay thx
[03:19] <nomad111> hi everyone im not sure which ubuntu file to download desktop or alternate?
[03:19] <LjL> Cntryboy: that's optional with tar. it is possible to use it, though, because most other unix command do need a "-" before the options
[03:19] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I only have these: 2.6.15-25-686 and 2.6.15-23-686
[03:19] <liquiem> Cntryboy: you dont have to use the -, but it looks nice ^^
[03:19] <crash9877> alpha255: its ok now since i have several keyboards. i just wanted to know if someone has the same problem
[03:20] <LjL> nomad111: desktop contains a "live" distribution (i.e. you can run stuff from the CD) and a graphical installer. alternate contains only a text-mode installer. some say the alternate installer is more reliable (well, it's older at any rate)
[03:20] <BIAF> nomadlll : desktop is just fine
[03:20] <Cntryboy> it's .tgz thats same as .tar right?
[03:20] <hey2k5> for compiling, do i just need to apt-get for gcc?
[03:20] <LjL> Cntryboy: no, it's the same as .tar.gz
[03:20] <alpha255> nope
[03:20] <morphix> hey2k5: get build-essential
[03:20] <Cntryboy> k
[03:20] <jighead> MrKeuner, do you have linux-restricted-modules for both of them, use synaptic to search, since apt-get and aptitude will cut of the version numbers and make it hard to tell
[03:20] <Cntryboy> I extracted it
[03:20] <threat> jighead, so where is it when the computer is off then?  in an uncompiled state? or what?
[03:20] <Cntryboy> now I need to know command to open it lol
[03:20] <LjL> Cntryboy: .tar is an archive format (it was originally meant for tapes). it simply "glues" files together. gzip is a compression format
[03:20] <nomad111> LjL, i think ill grab the desktop one lol
[03:20] <alpha255> Cntryboy: try file foo.tar
[03:21] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I'll check but I think I have both. just a sec
[03:21] <Cntryboy> http://www.steambird.com/linv/
[03:21] <nomad111> LjL, im not a pro at this
[03:21] <Cntryboy> thats what I got
[03:21] <LjL> Cntryboy: so, gzip can only compress *one* file; tar takes many files, but it doesn't compress. the two, together, make for a nice ZIP-like thing
[03:21] <hey2k5> ok thanks morphix
[03:21] <alpha255> Cntryboy: file can tell you the attributes of a file
[03:21] <Cntryboy> its a space invaders type game
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> alpha255, my ones currently are New Zealand repos
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> want to ubuntu ones
[03:21] <LjL> nomad111: no need to be a pro, the text-mode install is easy. the version of Ubuntu before Dapper (Breezy) did not have the graphical installer
[03:21] <alpha255> detectiveinspekt: you are located near new zeland right?
[03:21] <nomad111> ohhh so its the same as those
[03:21] <detectiveinspekt> yep
[03:22] <Bassetts> is it possible to run irssi, on the same irc server, but in two different channels, with different nicks in each?
[03:22] <Cntryboy> anyone go to that site
[03:22] <alpha255> makes sense then
[03:22] <Cntryboy> lol he doesn't have instructions to get that game workings
[03:22] <detectiveinspekt> but when I try to install g++, make says files don't exist
[03:22] <Cntryboy> brb
[03:22] <LjL> Cntryboy: that file is a .tar.gz. .tgz is just an abbreviation. you must gunzip it first, and then extract the tar. however, the single "tar" command that alpha255 gave will do both things
[03:23] <budward> wow.
[03:23] <alpha255> detectiveinspekt: aaah, you want the developer tools stuff... anyone know the package that "make" is in?
[03:23] <LjL> alpha255: build-essential (among others)
[03:23] <jighead> threat, yes the modules are built by a script in rcS.d and then discovered by depmod
[03:23] <budward> Ubuntu runs nicely on a ppc mac mini.
[03:23] <LjL> (but build-essential will install make, gcc, and most of everything needed)
[03:23] <detectiveinspekt> ah k ill try that
[03:23] <MrKeuner> jighead/ i have rest mod 2.6.15-23-686 and 2.6.15-25-686 as well as restricted-modules-686 and restricted-modules-common
[03:23] <alpha255> LjL: thnx! :)
[03:24] <MrKeuner> jighead/ Should I reinstall them?
[03:24] <alpha255> detectiveinspekt: synaptic or apt-get is your friend :)
[03:24] <zquirm> is there a way to get aptitude to display ANSI characters?
[03:24] <jan1313> hey guys I had my ubuntu hdb  now I "physically" changed it to hda , what should I change in ubuntu's configs to boot ? currectly it stops in Loading sytem files...
[03:24] <crash9877> budward, i would never install linux on my g5 :D why should i anyway?
[03:24] <zquirm> I get a bunch of junked up unicode
[03:24] <zquirm> however, bitchx displays the ansi perfectly fine.
[03:24] <rendo> OI!
[03:24] <alpha255> crash9877:  dual boot it?
[03:25] <rendo> How do I zip up files from the livecd which has the windows partition mounted and it's unaccessible because it won't boot to windows?
[03:25] <detectiveinspekt> still not downloading, I think the server is down
[03:25] <jighead> MrKeuner, you could try running /etc/rcS.d/S07linux-restricted-modules-common start and see if the volatile dir shows up in your current module dir
[03:25] <alpha255> crash9877:  how about if you needed to connect via ssh to a remote location and wanted it to show in the desktop
[03:25] <crash9877> alpha255, no chance dude. i love my mac with mac os x. i only install linux on pcs :-)
[03:25] <jan1313> sorry for bad english I retype my message  I had my ubuntu on " hdb" (second hard disk)  now I "physically" changed it to hda [now it is first hard disk]  ,  what should I do to load ubuntu ?
[03:25] <zquirm> I've tried like 5 different term modes for my ssh client
[03:25] <zquirm> ansi, linux, vt100
[03:25] <alpha255> crash9877: os x is good stuff
[03:25] <ic56> rendo: do you explictily want .zip format or will any unix format do?
[03:26] <kmilo> rendo, zip -r folder.zip folder
[03:26] <zquirm> Can you guys tell me something-else that uses ncurses and comes with ubuntu by default, so I can check if that works?
[03:26] <zquirm> maybe it's only aptitude that can't display high-characts
[03:26] <MrKeuner> jighead/ but -23 's volatile dir is not empty already
[03:27] <kmilo> zquirm, nano
[03:27] <alpha255> crash9877:  in the connect to dialog    try ssh://nameofserver.domain.com ... that's the only thing that I wish it could do
[03:27] <jme> This wireless driver is asking me for "root dir of external pcmcia" - where might that be?
[03:27] <jighead> MrKeuner, what does uname -r tell you?
[03:27] <jan1313> have any of u ever changed your hard disk from slave to master ?
[03:27] <jan1313> does it affect linux?
[03:27] <MrKeuner> jighead/ 2.6.15-23-686
[03:27] <kmilo> jan1313, yes
[03:27] <kmilo> jan1313, you have to change the /etc/fstab
[03:27] <jighead> MrKeuner, and the fglrx isn't under volatile?
[03:28] <MrKeuner> jighead/ nope
[03:28] <zquirm> aptitude is covered in these corrupted characters
[03:28] <Geoffrey2> is there a file that keeps track of updates that have been installed?
[03:28] <alpha255> kmilo: what if the disk has a label as in e2lable ?
[03:28] <alpha255> kmilo:  and fstab points to that label?
[03:28] <Jonatha1> I need installing Ubuntu...
[03:28] <nomad111> downloading alternate ubuntu and order 10 cd's
[03:28] <jan1313> ha ha nbody listens to me
[03:29] <jme> Any ideas on the "root dir of external pcmcia"?
[03:29] <kmilo> alpha255, the labels doesn't matters the device name is the important
[03:29] <zquirm> I have to hit ^L every few seconds for aptitude to be usable
[03:29] <Jonatha1> how come "ntfsresize" double it when you trying to resize
[03:29] <zx8_> how can i mount a remote ftp server to my local file system?
[03:29] <zquirm> since it leaves characters over
[03:29] <zquirm> is there any way to fix?
[03:29] <nomad111> didnt like kubuntu at alllll
[03:29] <zquirm> nano works fine
[03:29] <LjL> jan1313: yes, it does affect linux. the drive link will change from (probably) /dev/hda to (probably) /dev/hdb. you'll need to change your fstab, your grub's menu.lst and possibly other files
[03:29] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I know that it was working before kernel update because I installed google earth just fine. but after the kernel update It stopped using 3d accel. I installed and reinstalled some of these packages I may have hurt the system in some way?
[03:29] <nooreazy> HOLY SHEEP SHIT
[03:29] <LjL> !language
[03:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:30] <alpha255> kmilo: doh? hda vs hdb.. should have thought before typing
[03:30] <jan1313> LjL thanks for reply
[03:30] <alpha255> my bad
[03:30] <jan1313> is fstab and grub menue the only thing which I should change?
[03:30] <jan1313> everything else would be okay?
[03:30] <nooreazy> i was testing something sorry
[03:30] <Jonatha1> Any1 is available to help me?
[03:30] <LjL> jan1313: they're the only ones i can think of right now.
[03:30] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i just got done playing in the console.  i logged out of the gui to effectively freeze my home directory, logged in a terminal, went sudo su and copied everything again  just to be sure nothing had changed, rm -rf'd home, mkdir home, and mounted
[03:30] <LjL> jan1313: i definitely can't assure they're the *only* ones.
[03:30] <jan1313> aha
[03:30] <jan1313> is there anybody who has Tried it out ?
[03:31] <nacho_wide> forevernoob: my easy ubuntu install has frozen on configuring flashplugin-nonfree.  what do i do?
[03:31] <Jonatha1> i stuck in Live CD ...
[03:31] <jighead> MrKeuner, have you reinstalled the restricted modules, you may want to mark them for complete removal and then install them again
[03:31] <ToHellWithGA> is there a more slick way to remove everything in a folder, recursively, without deleting the folder then remaking it?
[03:31] <jme> This wireless driver is asking me for "root dir of external pcmcia" - where might that be?
[03:31] <jan1313> another question is there any GEDIT for Windows ? I want to edit my /etc/fstab file .... Notepad shows it so ugly
[03:31] <zquirm> aptitude is almost unusable
[03:31] <jme> hehe, sorry to spam
[03:31] <LjL> jan1313: i have. i've changed those two files, and it worked, except that everytime i upgraded my kernel, it insisted turning menu.lst back to /dev/hda. other than that, everything *seemed* to work fine. however, i *might* have changed some other files that i don't remember changing right now
[03:31] <Geoffrey2> periodically, the update manager gives me a list of files that need to be updated...I was wondering if Ubuntu maintained any kind of file that kept track of the various updates that had been installed?
[03:31] <zquirm> how am I going to administer this box remotely?
[03:31] <jighead> ToHellWithGA, rm -rf /foldertokeep/*
[03:31] <zquirm> this is retarded!
[03:32] <jme> jan1313, try another lite editor like metapad
[03:32] <LjL> jan1313: try using wordpad, if the problem is that notepad doesn't show newlines
[03:32] <ToHellWithGA> thank you jighead
[03:32] <alpha255> zquirm: give it some time... it does take a while to get use to
[03:32] <MrKeuner> jighead yes I did, Actually I have also downloaded ati's binary file created deb.s from it and removed it with forcing some warnings actually.
[03:32] <zquirm> alpha255: read what I said
[03:32] <_david> how do i do the equivalent to CHKDSK - i have reason to believe my fs needs fixing
[03:32] <UKMatt> can wine run AIM?
[03:32] <ic56> : cool.  Before rm -rf, you might have also verified the copy with something like: cd /home; find . -type f -print |xargs -i {} /temporary/{}
[03:32] <LjL> _david: man fsck
[03:32] <jan1313> aha thanks
[03:32] <UKMatt> i dont like GAIM
[03:32] <jme> UKMatt, yes
[03:32] <MrKeuner> jighead/ just one warning relating /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[03:32] <feryana> hi
[03:32] <UKMatt> jme, how?
[03:33] <jme> well, you need to get wine running, and then install AIM...
[03:33] <nacho_wide> my easy ubuntu install has frozen on configuring flashplugin-nonfree.  what do i do?
[03:33] <feryana> I want an applet for the weather, i've installed kweather but is not working properly, I have dapper
[03:33] <jme> just like any program on WINE
[03:33] <zquirm> alpha255: How do you expect me to get used to a bunch of unicode characters everywhere?
[03:33] <zquirm> the screen is all corrupted
[03:33] <_david> ljl: i read the entry on fsck - but it says not to run fsck on a mounted file system... how do i get access to my filesystem without Linux being booted?
[03:33] <jme> but it can be a little tricky
[03:33] <zquirm> i cant see what I am doing
[03:33] <UKMatt> jme, i don't know how to run wine..
[03:33] <nomad111> can i put the grub loader on my usb key
[03:33] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: cool.  Before rm -rf, you might have also verified the copy with something like: cd /home
[03:33] <ic56>  find . -type f -print |xargs -i {} /temporary/{}
[03:33] <nomad111> actually
[03:33] <jme> UKMatt, get it via synaptic and find an online walkthrough
[03:33] <jighead> MrKeuner, man, I went through this at work, and I forget what I had to do to get rid of all of the ati stuff and get the ubuntu version going again
[03:33] <zquirm> however, no other apps are doing this
[03:33] <zquirm> ONLY aptitude
[03:33] <nomad111> where is the best place to put the boot loader?
[03:33] <LjL> _david: you can still run it in read-only mode. it will detect but not correct errors, if any. otherwise, you should boot into recovery mode, and remount as read-only
[03:34] <jme> Any ideas on the "root dir of external pcmcia"?
[03:34] <feryana> I want an applet for the weather, i've installed kweather but is not working properly, I have dapper
[03:34] <zquirm> BitchX ansi and nano looks perfect.
[03:34] <MrKeuner> jighead/ strange reinstalling seems brought my fglrx.ko
[03:34] <_david> duh.... i remember now... thanks LjL
[03:34] <_david> byeeeeee
[03:34] <Dial_tone> doh, one reason my fgl_glxgears score was low is because I'm converting video right now. lol
[03:34] <Jonatha1> !help
[03:34] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i don't like to live dangerously.  i'll remember that next time.  thanks
[03:34] <jighead> MrKeuner, cool, lsmod it and see what happens!
[03:34] <LjL> _david: or perhaps just boot from a live cd. or, third option, set the filesystem's "dirty" flag, so that it'll be checked at next reboot. except i don't remember how to set that flag
[03:34] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yw!
[03:34] <jighead> zquirm, have you tried `reset`
[03:34] <Arrick> how goes it in windows land today?
[03:34] <nomad111> where is the best place to put the bootloader
[03:34] <MrKeuner> it is not instaled in kernel yet I'll modprobe
[03:34] <zquirm> jighead: that doesn't matter.
[03:34] <nomad111> shuld i put it into its own partition/
[03:35] <MrKeuner> jighead/ it is not instaled in kernel yet I'll modprobe
[03:35] <Jonatha1> LjL: can you help me?
[03:35] <zquirm> jighead: Like I said, I tried ansi, linux, vt100
[03:35] <UKMatt> can someone help me run wine
[03:35] <alpha255> nomad111:  mbr works for me
[03:35] <zquirm> "reset" is irrelevent since I had to reconnect each time
[03:35] <LjL> Jonatha1: perhaps, but i think i've missed your question
[03:35] <MrKeuner> jighead/ looks installed in kernel without problems I'll restart gdm
[03:35] <detectiveinspekt> There was a website that allowed you to generate a sources.list where is it?
[03:35] <LjL> !easysource
[03:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:35] <png> detectiveinspekt, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:35] <Arrick> sorry about the windows quetion, wrong channel
[03:35] <zquirm> if I can't get aptitude working I'm going to have to ditch ubuntu
[03:35] <nomad111> alpha255, yes but wat if i want to format my linux partition later on wouldnt that destroy the mbr like i wont be able to boot to windows for example
[03:35] <Arrick> how goes it in ubuntu world today?
[03:36] <jan1313> today something strange happened to my CD Writer in ubuntu... it was writing a CD then It hanged .... I had to restart , now whenver i put CD in my CD writer i hear strange sounds...and it doenst read the CD ...[even in windows]   is it a physicial problem or a software problem ?
[03:36] <detectiveinspekt> thanks
[03:36] <Jonatha1> LjL: I can't install Ubtuntu since ntfsresize putting free space into almost full
[03:36] <zquirm> and use dselect instead
[03:36] <zquirm> which works.
[03:36] <jme> shoot, no one know about "root dir of external pcmcia"?
[03:36] <jighead> zquirm, are your LANG, LC, and LC_ALL variables set?
[03:36] <LjL> Jonatha1: you should probably try defragging your NTFS partition, from windows
[03:36] <Arrick> jan1313, probably a hardware problem
[03:36] <jme> oh well, I'll try elsewhere
[03:36] <Jonatha1> defrag?
[03:36] <jighead> zquirm, perl gets cranky about those sometimes
[03:36] <zquirm> jighead: checking
[03:37] <alpha255> png: thnx! :)
[03:37] <LjL> Jonatha1: yes. if i recall correctly, let's see.... "my computer", right click on the drive, "tools", "defragment drive". but i haven't used windows for some time
[03:37] <nacho_wide> my easy ubuntu install has frozen/stalled on installation.  what do i do?
[03:37] <Jonatha1> i have go back to Windows then use Disk Defrag?
[03:37] <LjL> Jonatha1: note that defragmentation can take a while, depending on the size and contents of your HD.
[03:37] <LjL> Jonatha1: yes, i think that's the trick
[03:38] <Arrick> Jonatha1, run disk cleanup first
[03:38] <SixtyWatt> Has anyone had any issues with java hanging?
[03:38] <zquirm> jighead: LANG and LANGUAGE are set
[03:38] <zquirm> no LC
[03:38] <Jonatha1> oh okay Arrick.
[03:38] <nomad111> im worried about installing bootloader on mbr
[03:38] <nomad111> i dunno if it'll screw up things later on
[03:38] <zquirm> no LC_ALL
[03:38] <jighead> zquirm, what are they set to?
[03:38] <nomad111> in terms of format linux partition
[03:38] <LjL> nomad111: haven't had a problem with it, that's all i can say
[03:39] <LjL> nomad111: that is, if by "bootloader" you mean grub
[03:39] <Jonatha1> okay, bye... i going to reboot to windows
[03:39] <nomad111> yes
[03:39] <nomad111> what if i format linux partition
[03:39] <nomad111> the one i hav ubuntu in
[03:39] <LjL> nomad111: oh... that could be problematic i suppose.
[03:39] <MrKeuner> jighead/ thanks friend. it is working
[03:39] <nomad111> does grub get removed from the mbr
[03:39] <wodie> grsse
[03:39] <nomad111> see thats wat i mean
[03:39] <jighead> MrKeuner, np
[03:39] <zquirm> jighead: en_US.UTF-8
[03:39] <LjL> nomad111: no, it doesn't. but besides the MBR, grub also uses files that *are* in linux's root partition
[03:39] <zquirm> and LANGUAGE=en
[03:40] <nomad111> isnt the mbr a section on the hdd
[03:40] <wodie> kk
[03:40] <SixtyWatt> If in Windows you would need to execute fixmbr to overwrite the mbr or grub will still be in place
[03:40] <LjL> nomad111: yes, but it's outside of your Linux partition -- of *all* partitions, actually. it's at the very beginning on the drive.
[03:40] <zquirm> oh shit
[03:40] <LjL> nomad111: however, as i said, grub does also uses files that *are* in your linux partition (namely, in the "/boot/" directory)
[03:40] <zquirm> I set it to en_US.UTF-16 and it works.
[03:40] <zquirm> fixed aptitude
[03:41] <wodie> the beginning is ide0.. i installed windows on a sata-disk..bummer
[03:41] <zquirm> jighead: Thanks!
[03:41] <zquirm> but where is this getting set from in the first place ?
[03:41] <nomad111> i see well in the future before i format my linux partition should i: in windows do fixmbr then format it using partition magic or something
[03:41] <zquirm> why was it UTF-8 ?
[03:41] <nomad111> coz i hav an old ubuntu
[03:41] <Cntryboy> oka back
[03:41] <Cntryboy> so how do i start this game now
[03:41] <Cntryboy> sinces its extracted?
[03:41] <Cntryboy> since
[03:42] <LjL> nomad111: don't forget the using-the-ubuntu-live-CD option. that's a life saver at times
[03:42] <LjL> nomad111: you can format partitions with it, as well as re-install grub later
[03:42] <jighead> zquirm, i have no idea, if you *really* want to figure it out find /etc -depth -type f -exec grep -H UTF-8 {} \;
[03:42] <nomad111> LOLLLL u tell me now haha i thought i was downloading the alternate coz its safer
[03:42] <nomad111> im actually burning it now
[03:43] <nomad111> shuld i go back and download desktop version?
[03:43] <LjL> nomad111: the alternate is good enough (and possibly better than the live) for installing, but the live cd is useful for "emergency" situations
[03:43] <LjL> nomad111: i'd have both handy.
[03:43] <nomad111> oh ok...
[03:43] <nacho_wide> my easy ubuntu install has frozen/stalled on installation.  what do i do? any ideas?  i'm sure its not crtl-alt-delete
[03:44] <Cntryboy> after I untar gunzip a file
[03:44] <Cntryboy> it left folder on desktop
[03:44] <Cntryboy> what is the command to start the file.name
[03:44] <Cntryboy> ./
[03:44] <Cntryboy> ?
[03:44] <nomad111> LjL, thx for the help much appreciated im gonna go install 6.06 now
[03:44] <nomad111> bye
[03:44] <eclypse> sup everyone
[03:44] <LjL> nomad111: in theory, the live cd should be all that you need (and still in theory, the alternate is only intended for installing on computer with little RAM). however, my personal impression is that the live's installer is currently not totally polished
[03:44] <LjL> bye
[03:45] <eclypse> the alternate cd can fix a hellovalot of problems
[03:45] <eclypse> Its pretty much the safest install route.
[03:46] <eclypse> anyone know how to fix the xserver error 'no screens found'? I've been attempting to get XGL working and this seems to be the main error at the moment.
[03:46] <Zambezi> Can anyone help mw with Conky? It won't work.
[03:46] <morphix> Zambezi: elaborate?
[03:47] <Zambezi> morphix, I get errormessages.
[03:47] <morphix> Zambezi: such as?
[03:47] <LjL> !pastebin
[03:47] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:47] <Zambezi> It comes in pastebin soon.
[03:47] <mister_roboto> eclypse: i've had that error  when i used the wrong video driver and the x server couldn't talk to the card.  have you looked at your xorg log?
[03:48] <zquirm> jighead: /etc/environment had LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[03:48] <zquirm> jighead: why would /etc/environment be set like that?
[03:48] <zquirm> instead of utf16
[03:48] <eclypse> I will in a second, mister_roboto
[03:48] <Zambezi> http://pastebin.com/715791
[03:48] <Zambezi> morphix, http://pastebin.com/715791
[03:48] <chris_> hey all
[03:48] <chris_> im having problems booting dapper on my imac g3
[03:49] <chris_> it already has breezy on it
[03:49] <tenzin_> Anybody know some good ARDOUR, HYDROGEN and ZYNSUBADDFX tutorials?
[03:49] <boga> having trouble with Evolution. It asks me for a password to a news server though I do not need one! I am able to read msgs from this server using thunderbird with no password. Any help?
[03:49] <mister_roboto> eclypse: oh... i keyed in on the error message and not the XGL part. I have not used XGL at all. I do know that it's generally a good idea though to see what sort of things the software is trying to tell you  in the logs :)
[03:49] <chris_> but i kinda screwed it up trying to use easy ubuntu
[03:49] <chris_> anyways
[03:49] <eclypse> where is this x log anyways?
[03:49] <mister_roboto> eclypse: /var/log
[03:49] <chris_> when it plays the boot song/noise when booting dapper the screen stays blank
[03:49] <JordiGH> I have a question about the Kubuntu livecd, before I download it. Does it allow me to save most configurations to a usb pendrive, like a Knoppix cd?
[03:50] <cge> Is there some way to add a remote IPP printer without having the correct PPD installed on the local machine? When Browsing is working properly, the printers are added automatically and don't seem to require the selection of the correct driver, but when trying to add one manually, I am always asked for one.
[03:50] <jorvis_> I'm installing Dapper and have got to the "Prepare partitions" step (gui) ... I see the partition where I want to install it, but I don't see how to mark it as the "/" partition.  help?
[03:50] <mister_roboto> eclypse: frequently you'll find useful stuff written to /var/log/messages too. check the timestamps to see what files got new information
[03:51] <mister_roboto> eclypse: "ls -lrt" will sort the files with the most recently modified ones at the bottom
[03:51] <eclypse> k
[03:51] <boga> jorvis_: go back and let the partitioner use all available free space
[03:52] <chris_> hey im having troubles with booting desktop verion of dapper, when it has finished loading and plays the intro noise the screen stays blank, any help?
[03:52] <chris_> im using an imac g3
[03:52] <eclypse> shall I pastebin my xorg.1.log?
[03:52] <cge> boga: That doesn't sound like what jorvis_ wants to do.
[03:52] <cge> jorvis_: You are using the Desktop CD install, and not the alternate?
[03:52] <mister_roboto> eclypse: sure
[03:52] <eclypse> because I'm a noob and I really have no idea what to look for
[03:52] <eclypse> k
[03:52] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me launching Conky? Errormessages here: http://pastebin.com/715791
[03:52] <morphix> Zambezi: ah, thats just for temperatures.
[03:52] <boga> cge: well, if he wants to install, then he'll have to do that
[03:52] <eclypse> posting now...
[03:53] <jorvis_> cge: yes, the desktop ... I have winxp on another partition, and a fat32 partition with data I want to keep.  I see the previous /, /boot and swap areas from my last install, and I want it to re-use those
[03:53] <Zambezi> morphix, How can I fix it? I'm a beginner. So I don't know how to solve problem.
[03:54] <boga> jorvis_: As I said, go back, delete those partitions then let the installer use all available free space.
[03:54] <cge> jorvis_: I can't quite recall with the Desktop CD, since I never use it to install. The partitioner is really quite poor on the desktop cd.
[03:54] <eclypse> mister_roboto: http://pastebin.com/715795
[03:54] <boga> jorvis_: the installer will take care of all partitions u need.
[03:54] <jorvis_> boga: and it will leave my fat32 partition intact?
[03:55] <jorvis_> (so long as I don't delete it, obviously)
[03:55] <boga> jorvis_: be carefull not to delete yr windows partition
[03:55] <boga> yeap!
[03:55] <jorvis_> right, i see tat one
[03:55] <boga> Be careful NOT to delete it.
[03:55] <morphix> Zambezi: do u require temperatures?
[03:55] <jorvis_> so i'll delete my previous /boot, swap and / partitions
[03:55] <Dr_Geek> some ubuntu rooms are sure snobby
[03:55] <Zambezi> morphix, No.
[03:56] <cge> jorvis_: If you do want to use the partitions, if I recall correctly, you go to the next screen and can select the partition use there.
[03:56] <JordiGH> I have a question about the Kubuntu livecd, before I download it. Does it allow me to save most configurations to a usb pendrive, like a Knoppix cd?
[03:56] <boga> jorvis_: precisely
[03:56] <cge> jorvis_: But I would recommend the alternate cd for manual partitioning.
[03:56] <alpa> can anyone help me to convert mine to universal repository?
[03:56] <morphix> you should have a file .conkyrc in your home folder?
[03:56] <boga> leave the windows one
[03:56] <linux_user400354> i cant see my shared windows folders from ubuntu when i go to Places>Network Servers>Workgroup. Does anyone know why?
[03:56] <morphix> ^^ Zambezi
[03:56] <morphix> Zambezi:you should have a file .conkyrc in your home folder?
[03:57] <mister_roboto> eclypse: is that all there is? looks like it got cut off
[03:57] <eclypse> umm
[03:57] <cge> Dr_Geek: Snobby? Hardly - I've found that usually only easy questions get answered at all here. But #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to discuss that.
[03:57] <eclypse> leme look...
[03:57] <Zambezi> morphix, Let me check.
[03:57] <jorvis_> boga: it doesn't seem as though I need to allocate space for a boot partition.  that's weird.
[03:57] <cge> jorvis_: It doesn't use one.
[03:57] <mister_roboto> eclypse: i don't know what all those drmOpenDevice failures means... sorry
[03:57] <jorvis_> oh.
[03:57] <boga> jorvis_: the installer will take care of that.
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> Hey
[03:58] <linux_user400354> is there a bug with using samba on dapper drake?
[03:58] <cge> jorvis_: You don't need one if you are using ext3.
[03:58] <heatxsink> hello all, has anyone tried using mod_perl with apache2 on dapper?
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> My friend is asking what's the difference between Windows and Linux
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> How can I sum it up to him in one word?
[03:58] <rbgCODE> does anyone know how to extract video from a bin and cue file?
[03:58] <DarkLegacy> I've tried Linux != Windows, but that doesn't work
[03:58] <Dr_Geek> cge...i was in #ubuntu-ca today and 15 ppl were there just doing zip
[03:58] <eclypse> it seems to have gotten cut off
[03:58] <eclypse> hold on
[03:58] <mister_roboto> DarkLegacy: in one word?!  that's pretty hard to do
[03:58] <heatxsink> it seems the default installation on dapper of mod_perl with apache2 is not configured to be run!!!
[03:58] <boga> linux_user400354: Got an answer to yr prob?
[03:58] <cge> Dr_Geek: Oh - those channels aren't very useful. Everyone is here.
[03:59] <jorvis_> DarkLegacy: windows is easier and sometimes does a small amount of things well, linux is harder but you can do anything.   (one sentence, not one word, but hey)
[03:59] <Zambezi> morphix, No such file there.
[03:59] <linux_user400354> boga, no
[03:59] <Dr_Geek> cge  that is true
[03:59] <rbgCODE> does anyone know how to extract video from a bin and cue file?
[03:59] <Madpilot> Dr_Geek, how do you equate "quiet" or "underused" with "snobby"?
[03:59] <cge> jorvis_: And if you tell the desktop installer to use something other than ext3, it generally ignores you.
[03:59] <friedo> how do I enable ssh on a fresh install of ubuntu desktop?
[03:59] <eclypse> I'm posting the rest of it, in a seperate thing, mister_roboto
[03:59] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell friedo about ssh
[03:59] <boga> linux_user400354: what file system do you have on yr windows partition?
[04:00] <Madpilot> friedo, outgoing ssh should 'just work' - see the pm from the bot for incoming
[04:00] <linux_user400354> boga, when i go to workgroup, I get a message saying "The folder contents could not be displayed."
[04:00] <JordiGH> DarkLegacy: One word? Freedom.
[04:00] <eclypse> mister_roboto http://pastebin.com/715798
[04:00] <planetcall> goodmorning everyone
[04:00] <jorvis_> cge: it's going now.   it was pretty clear after I cleared the old partitions and clicked next, but a little more information on the "step 5" screen would have been useful, like "You will be able to assign mount points to any created partitions on the next screen"
[04:00] <Dr_Geek> Madpilot.........when you say hello to 15 ppl and get no reply
[04:00] <linux_user400354> boga, the folder being shared is with xubuntu using a second harddrive with fat32
[04:00] <friedo> thanks Madpilot
[04:00] <boga> linux_user400354: let's know what file system you have in windows.
[04:00] <boga> Ok
[04:00] <jorvis_> cge: crap.  "Failed to create a file system"
[04:00] <cge> jorvis_: The desktop install really seems to be geared toward people who don't understand what partitions or mount points are.
[04:01] <boga> add the follwing to yr /etc/fstab....U must be root.
[04:01] <UKMatt> how do I run aim in wine?
[04:01] <boga> /dev/hda1    /media/windows vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[04:01] <rbgCODE> no fn way why would you want to run aim?
[04:01] <scott> HOW THE HELL DO YOU WORK LINUX!!!  hi)
[04:01] <UKMatt> cause I can't set a profile in GAIM
[04:02] <imbrandon> UKMatt, there are lots of other aim softwares like kopete etc
[04:02] <UKMatt> well... i can, but can't go to a new line (use enter)
[04:02] <alpha255> scott: depends on what you'redoing with it
[04:02] <imbrandon> UKMatt, and thats an option
[04:02] <UKMatt> imbrandon, what else?
[04:02] <Zambezi> clear
[04:02] <Zambezi> morphix, How can I get the file?
[04:02] <cge> jorvis_: Hmmm... I think there is an error log somewhere, maybe Ctrl-Alt-F{X} where {X} is some number between 8 and 12?
[04:02] <scott> xp and ubuntu just dual booted an hour ago
[04:02] <boga> remember /media/windows is a directory u must create
[04:02] <alpha255> scott: you don't need to shout it though...
[04:02] <JordiGH> scott: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO DO, SPECIFICALLY? Hi. :-)
[04:02] <UKMatt> imbrandon, is kopete for AIM too?
[04:02] <Dr_Geek> bbl........going to check-out another channel
[04:02] <scott> sorry
[04:02] <morphix> Zambezi: ok.. it seems on dapper, things are different, do this, cp /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz ~/.conkyrc.gz && gunzip .conkyrc.gz && gedit .conkyrc
[04:02] <imbrandon> UKMatt, yes
[04:02] <mister_roboto> eclypse: i'm sorry but that looks like everything initialized fine with respect to your card. i don't know xgl or what can go wrong with it so i can't help you further. hopefully someone else will take up your problem
[04:03] <linux_user400354> boga, im not trying to share a folder. im trying to get see the folder thats already being shared on the network.
[04:03] <rbgCODE> anyone can help me extracting video froma bin file?
[04:03] <UKMatt> what about itunes, can that run in wine yet?
[04:03] <jorvis_> cge: I had a terminal window open in the old mount point.  that was probably it
[04:03] <alpha255> scott: ?
[04:03] <cge> jorvis_: Ouch
[04:03] <eclypse> yeah...hopefully
[04:03] <scott> trying to run GRUB (I think its already installed)
[04:03] <rixxon> linux_user400354: a windows folder?
[04:03] <cge> jorvis_: You'll have to restart. I hate that part of linux.
[04:03] <boga> then u need samba
[04:03] <Sivik> !bcm4318
[04:03] <alpha255> scott: why do you need to that?
[04:03] <linux_user400354> rixxon, a samba share folder
[04:03] <eclypse> I'm pretty much close to paying someone to help me get my laptop working 100% linux
[04:03] <ubotu> somebody said bcm4318 was a card you need to use ndiswrapper with. unless you use Dapper, in which case it's supported natively as long as you acquire the firmware
[04:03] <jorvis_> cge: restarting already
[04:03] <scott> I just finished repartitioning *spell
[04:03] <eclypse> however, I know nobody that could possibly help...
[04:04] <rixxon> linux_user400354: same thing, i guess. Places/Connect to Server
[04:04] <boga> I'm afraid I'm not so adept on samba!
[04:04] <Sivik> anyone here use bcm?
[04:04] <scott> curious
[04:04] <JordiGH> scott: When you boot your box, do you get a boot menu? If you do, then Grub is installed. Otherwise, what happens when you boot it?
[04:04] <jorvis_> cge:  either way, this is much easier than getting Vista installed.  : )
[04:04] <scott> i guess
[04:04] <mister_roboto> eclypse: well... do you NEED xgl?  :)
[04:04] <cge> jorvis_: True.
[04:04] <rixxon> linux_user400354: Service type: Windows share
[04:04] <eclypse> pretty much
[04:04] <boga> But Ubuntu has a places configuration icon
[04:04] <eclypse> it makes gnome a constant opengl environment
[04:04] <mister_roboto> eclypse: why? i'm curious why you want it so badly
[04:04] <eclypse> so, it would actually give me better performance then I have now.
[04:04] <scott> No I'm runnig ubuntu as i talk to xchat for the first time
[04:04] <Sivik> scott: lol
[04:04] <scott> yea
[04:05] <mister_roboto> eclypse: but why is that important to using your laptop, apart from the coolness factor?
[04:05] <scott> yes
[04:05] <eclypse> it would give me better performance
[04:05] <cge> eclypse: Actually, it is quite probable that it would be worse in terms of performance.
[04:05] <alpha255> scott: you're doing really if this is the first time
[04:05] <eclypse> because it would turn gnome into a constant opengl environment
[04:05] <eclypse> therefore, I would get better graphical performance
[04:05] <rbgCODE> does anyone know how to extract video from a bin and cue file?
[04:05] <eclypse> from grnome.
[04:05] <scott> I want to use both my moniters (programs running)
[04:05] <eclypse> gnome*
[04:05] <Zambezi> morphix, Errormessages at cp /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz.   cp: missing destination file operand after `/usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz'   / Try 'cp -help' for more information
[04:05] <mister_roboto> eclypse: are you sure about that? i havfe a radeon mobility in this laptop and performance is very very good with the ati driver
[04:05] <scott> and learn how to get to the "command prompt"
[04:06] <scott> radeon 9600 series
[04:06] <scott> 2 moniters
[04:06] <eclypse> cge, well as of now, the entire desktop system seems sluggier then windows
[04:06] <rixxon> rbgCODE: depends totally on the image
[04:06] <cge> eclypse: You don't have the sticky cpufreq bug, do you?
[04:06] <scott> moitors
[04:06] <amr2> !restrictedformats
[04:06] <ubotu> see !restricted
[04:06] <cge> eclypse: one moment
[04:06] <eclypse> the what?
[04:06] <zer0> can someone help me, im trying to install libdvdcss2 and realplayer
[04:06] <eclypse> ok
[04:06] <eclypse> lol
[04:06] <rbgCODE> rixxon just an mpg
[04:06] <Sivik> i'm having problems connecting with a bcm4318 wireless card
[04:06] <amr2> !restricted
[04:06] <zer0> but it says it cant stat
[04:06] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[04:06] <alpha255> scott: goto applications menu > accessories > terminal
[04:06] <inono> How can I find gtk-doc for Ubuntu?
[04:06] <scott> thanx
[04:06] <cge> eclypse: You are on a laptop?
[04:06] <linux_user400354> rixxon, that worked. where does the share folder get mounted to? if i knew where it was, i could download to it.
[04:06] <eclypse> yes
[04:06] <amr2> anyone experiencing regualr crashs with totem
[04:06] <cge> eclypse: With a Pentium M?
[04:06] <eclypse> well right now I'm on my desktop, but the laptop is right next to me
[04:06] <eclypse> yes
[04:07] <rixxon> linux_user400354: perhaps /media, not sure
[04:07] <scott> i have 5 things but its not 'terminal'
[04:07] <zquirm> jighead: still here?
[04:07] <blacktears> hey does anyone know of any good games for linux
[04:07] <scott> under sys tools *got it
[04:07] <kmilo> blacktears, cedega
[04:07] <alpha255> scott: aaahh
[04:07] <morphix> Zambezi: hmm.. can u receive files via DCC? i could just send u the edited config, all u would have to do is place it in your home dir and then run conky
[04:07] <kmilo> blacktears, or free games?
[04:07] <blacktears> what is cedega
[04:07] <jighead> zquirm, yes
[04:07] <alpha255> scott: i'm in dapper drake 6 release
[04:07] <BioVorE> blacktears: www.icculurs.org (I think)  and www.happypenguen.org
[04:07] <blacktears> free games
[04:07] <kmilo> @search cedega
[04:07] <Ubugtu> There were no matching configuration variables.
[04:07] <alpha255> scott: are you on 5.10 ?
[04:08] <Madpilot> blacktears, cedega isn't a game, it's a payware emulator for Windows games in Linux
[04:08] <scott> i just updated but im not sure if its dapper
[04:08] <blacktears> oh
[04:08] <cge> eclypse: What does "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq" tell you about your CPU frequency, and what should it be?
[04:08] <boga> anyone can help me with Evolution on a free news server?
[04:08] <blacktears> i meant strictly linux games
[04:08] <Madpilot> blacktears, for good free games - what style of games to you like?
[04:08] <scott> 5,04 (ubuntu)
[04:08] <blacktears> strategy
[04:08] <alpha255> scott: ahh ok
[04:08] <cge> eclypse: Or actually, what is the output of "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq"?
[04:08] <kmilo> scott, lsb_release -d
[04:09] <planetcall> blacktears, there are many. Read a few descriptions in synaptic
[04:09] <scott> what cool things can i mess up with the terminal*
[04:09] <UKMatt> yeah.. how do you run AIM in wine, i'm still not liking kopete
[04:09] <scott> ?
[04:09] <BioVorE> blacktears: UT2k4/Quake3/Quake3/Doom3/ROTT/Never Winter Night  just to name a few
[04:09] <Madpilot> blacktears, have a look at Battle of Wesnoth - it's in Ubuntu's repos, it's a turn-based strategy game
[04:09] <cge> scott: Everything :)
[04:09] <scott> thanx
[04:09] <eclypse> hold on a sec...
[04:09] <Sivik> how do i get the kernel to regonize my bcm4318 wireless card?
[04:09] <alpha255> scott: you might like the newer released dapper drake better
[04:09] <inoles> I am back, LjL
[04:09] <Zambezi> morphix, I feel uncomfortable with that. I would like to make my own file.
[04:09] <blacktears> like what syle?
[04:09] <blacktears> is it
[04:09] <blacktears> like starcraft?
[04:09] <amr2> !libdvdcss2
[04:09] <ubotu> see dvd
[04:09] <zquirm> jighead, well,
[04:09] <amr2> !dvd
[04:09] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amr2
[04:09] <scott> hoary hedge hogf
[04:09] <cge> blacktears: Turn based strategy
[04:09] <eclypse> it says 1600000
[04:09] <eclypse> and that is correct
[04:10] <eclypse> this is a 1.6Ghz cpu.
[04:10] <scott> how do you get it
[04:10] <kmilo> blacktears, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/
[04:10] <Madpilot> blacktears, no, wesnoth is more like Heroes of Might & Magic, if you've ever played that
[04:10] <scott> ?
[04:10] <alpha255> alpha255:  in terminal ... you can do anything when elevated too root
[04:10] <morphix> Zambezi: well then.. i'll just pastebin my .conkyrc contents?
[04:10] <cge> blacktears: Also, the development version on the wesnoth website is much better than the version in the repositories.
[04:10] <zquirm> When I try to use aptitude, I am getting tons of errors
[04:10] <zquirm> http://rafb.net/paste/results/PuSGtB51.html
[04:10] <alpha255> scott: be care with the commands
[04:10] <inoles> damn, Linux still recongize NTFS as 76GB but Windows detect it 20 GBV
[04:10] <scott> i Know
[04:10] <scott> thanx
[04:10] <Madpilot> blacktears, open Synaptic, search for 'game' or 'games', have a look at what comes up
[04:10] <Dr_Geek> anyone know where to find a good chess game....that is not 3D
[04:11] <alpha255> scott: ubutu uses sudo which is safer
[04:11] <zquirm> How can this shipping release of Ubuntu be so screwed up?
[04:11] <scott> Is that right?
[04:11] <alpha255> scott: sudo rootcommand and exit
[04:11] <eclypse> cge, it displayed 1600000, I'm assuming its equal to 1.6Ghz, which is the actual clock speed of my CPU
[04:11] <jighead> zquirm, your locale is set the UTF-8 by default
[04:11] <cge> eclypse: Yes, so you don't have that bug.
[04:11] <jighead> zquirm, i think it's dpkg-reconfigure locale or locales to reset the default
[04:11] <shad0w1e> hey is there any way to hide ".whatever" files via samba, even if the windows client has "show hidden files" enabled ?
[04:11] <scott> Is it possible to mess up your actual hardware though>?
[04:11] <zquirm> jighead: what about those errors?
[04:11] <blacktears> what about attal
[04:11] <blacktears> ???
[04:12] <cge> scott: It _usually_ isn't
[04:12] <eclypse> cge, and I've already tried turning off powernowd to stop scaling, it made no difference in the graphical performance
[04:12] <scott> password is mine?
[04:12] <alpha255> scott: yes
[04:12] <Madpilot> scott, for sudo? Yes
[04:12] <jighead> zquirm, with aptitude displaying garbage?
[04:12] <kiryx> ...o.o
[04:12] <eclypse> cge: and I was told by several people that XGL will probably make it go faster because of its opengl environment
[04:12] <zquirm> jighead: did you see the RAFB ?
[04:12] <cge> eclypse: Hmmm... What type of graphics card does the computer have, and what driver are you using for it?
[04:12] <scott> command not found
[04:12] <zer0> when i try to run apt-get install libdvdcss2 i get W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom:
[04:12] <zquirm> I just posted the errors
[04:12] <blacktears> anyone on a game called attal
[04:12] <blacktears> ???
[04:12] <zer0> then it tells me to apt-update but i already have
[04:13] <eclypse> cge: ATI Mobility Radeon X300 PCI Express 64MB (On board/Dedicated memory), and I'm using the fglrx driver from the repos
[04:13] <jighead> zquirm, RAFB? i've kinda been in and out
[04:13] <Madpilot> blacktears, hadn't actually heard of it - just checking the website now
[04:13] <Zambezi> morphix, That was a better idea, but I found a thing for the Xfce4-panel which is very nice. I stick with that. Thanks for your time.
[04:13] <zquirm> jighead: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PuSGtB51.html
[04:13] <blacktears> thanks madpilot
[04:13] <zquirm> that's what happens when I let aptitude fetch/remove/install the packages
[04:13] <cge> eclypse: Are you sure you have glx accelerated?
[04:13] <scott> alpha?
[04:13] <zquirm> it fills the screen with errors
[04:13] <kiryx> a i'm a duck...---..---
[04:13] <kiryx> jeje
[04:13] <eclypse> cge: I DID lol. now its all screwed up again
[04:13] <morphix> Zambezi: IMO conky is better, but its your choice.
[04:13] <inoles> LjL?
[04:13] <Madpilot> blacktears, wesnoth has better graphics, no idea about gameplay
[04:14] <scott> mr burger knows?
[04:14] <eclypse> cge: it was working perfectly when I installed XGL.
[04:14] <eclypse> cge: and before.
[04:14] <blacktears> thanks
[04:14] <cge> eclypse: XGL can mess that up.
[04:14] <eclypse> cge: my proof, Unreal Tournament 2004 ran with perfect FPS
[04:14] <eclypse> cge: well at this point, gnome seems to be already screwed up enough
[04:14] <Zambezi> morphix, Well. I'm a beginner. I'm listening. ;-)
[04:14] <zer0> when i try running synaptic it doesnt do anything
[04:14] <eclypse> cge: I thought my graphics card wasent working for the LONGEST TIME!@
[04:14] <zquirm> no such file or directory? wtf?
[04:14] <jighead> zquirm, they're just warnings, and it looks like perl is getting around the UTF-16 setting by falling back to C, does dpkg fail?
[04:14] <eclypse> cge: but apparently gnome is just plain out slow
[04:15] <morphix> Zambezi: u can stick with the xfce4-panel if u wish.
[04:15] <scott> who plays fps's on linux?
[04:15] <eclypse> cge: but I don't think a quarter second to load icons on the games menus is reasonable at all
[04:15] <scott> ubuntu'
[04:15] <blacktears> im going with wesnoth
[04:15] <eclypse> scott: I would if I was on high speed internet.
[04:15] <zquirm> jighead: by setting it to UTF-16, it makes aptitude look perfect
[04:15] <cge> eclypse: Yes, menu loading is rather slow.
[04:15] <Zambezi> morphix, Can we take this i PM?
[04:15] <zquirm> if I set it to UTF-8, then aptitude is in ASCII and is unusable
[04:15] <blacktears> what about the different campaigns
[04:15] <eclypse> cge: everything seems sluggish
[04:15] <blacktears> ???
[04:15] <cge> eclypse: Have you tried KDE? Some people claim that it is faster.
[04:15] <morphix> Zambezi: if u wish
[04:15] <eclypse> cge: I don't like KDE, at all
[04:15] <cge> blacktears: What do you mean?
[04:15] <LjL> inoles: yep
[04:15] <scott> sorry
[04:15] <eclypse> cge: I like gnome, alot now, ever since dappers release
[04:15] <Kibou> eclypse: try windows
[04:15] <zquirm> dpkg works
[04:15] <cge> eclypse: Neither do I, and I can't even explain why.
[04:15] <Madpilot> blacktears, just install all the wesnoth packages
[04:16] <eclypse> Kibou: go to hell
[04:16] <blacktears> eastern Invasion official campaign for Wesnoth
[04:16] <shad0w1e> XFCE is very fast, and quite a decent interface
[04:16] <Kibou> eclypse: alrighty
[04:16] <blacktears> its what it says
[04:16] <cge> blacktears: Oh, just install them all.
[04:16] <blacktears> lol okay
[04:16] <eclypse> cge: there isant any remede? gnome seems to be a fairly flexable system...
[04:16] <jighead> zquirm, so are you still having a problem?
[04:16] <zquirm> Yes
[04:16] <eclypse> cge: perhaps it can be forced to use opengl?
[04:16] <scott> I have cable and want an easy setup fps
[04:16] <scott> for ubuntu
[04:16] <cge> eclypse: It depends on what is causing the slowdown. I have also heard that changing to another theme can sometimes help.
[04:16] <Madpilot> scott, Enemy Territory
[04:16] <Kibou> metacity is the slowest part of gnome
[04:16] <blacktears> okay its installing
[04:16] <eclypse> cge: no, this is definately not the theme
[04:17] <zquirm> the problem is that Aptitude looks totally corrupted if I use the default environment of UTF-8; it looks perfect in UTF-16, yet, it spits tons of errors in UTF-16
[04:17] <blacktears> whats the style by the way
[04:17] <Madpilot> scott, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[04:17] <zquirm> and why is it saying "no such file or directory" ?
[04:17] <scott> They have wet for ubuntu?
[04:17] <blacktears> is it like futuristic
[04:17] <alpha255> scott: i'd send you sftp instead
[04:17] <M-Wei|OSX> Hi all.
[04:17] <eclypse> cge: doesn't windows use opengl for they're default 2d environment?
[04:17] <blacktears> or medieval
[04:17] <alpha255> scott: more secure
[04:17] <cge> eclypse: I don't think so. Maybe for Vista.
[04:17] <Madpilot> blacktears, no, wesnoth is medieval/fantasy
[04:17] <scott> what is sftp
[04:17] <blacktears> ok cool
[04:17] <M-Wei|OSX> I have a question about Weekly Newspaper.
[04:17] <BioVorE> eclypse: vista will
[04:17] <_Luks> how to configure xterm font color ?
[04:17] <alpha255> scott: it doesn't send password and account in clear text
[04:17] <blacktears> it takes forever by the way
[04:17] <aquasoftpacita> how do you create startup applications??
[04:17] <blacktears> how large is it
[04:17] <eclypse> cge: so, you haven't any ideas whatsoever on making gnome actually work like a fast system? I mena seriously, it should be by every reason faster then windows xp.
[04:17] <Madpilot> M-Wei|OSX, the Ubuntu weekly newsletter?
[04:17] <dli> Madpilot, anything like heroes or age of empire?
[04:18] <M-Wei|OSX> Madpilot: Yes.
[04:18] <Madpilot> dli, not sure
[04:18] <scott> Can everybody see that?
[04:18] <Madpilot> M-Wei|OSX, join #ubuntu-doc please
[04:18] <ASpacita> how do you create startup applications??
[04:18] <eclypse> cge: I mean, the desktop environment its self is much less demanding then windows xp.
[04:18] <cge> eclypse: I'm not sure. It runs well on my laptop, at least when my CPU is actually running at 1.6GHz instead of 600.
[04:18] <M-Wei|OSX> Madpilot: Oh.
[04:18] <alpha255> scott: also you can limit where connections originate from too with the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files
[04:18] <eclypse> cge: I turned off powernod and it was running at 1.6 and it made no noticible difference
[04:18] <_Luks> aquasoftpacita: Menu > System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup
[04:18] <blacktears> anyway im going to play it for awhile
[04:18] <alpha255> scott: i don't run ftp just for that reason
[04:18] <blacktears> peace
[04:19] <cge> eclypse: powernowd works very well. My computer just was stuck at 600.
[04:19] <dli> eclypse, cpufrequtils is good
[04:19] <scott> will denying mess me up?
[04:19] <DarkSpirit> I am downloading the Desktop CD is it suppose to be 700MB?
[04:19] <cge> eclypse: There are a variety of things you can try.
[04:19] <alpha255> scott:nope
[04:19] <scott> should i do that?
[04:19] <_Luks> DarkSpirit: yes it is
[04:19] <boga> Anyone noticed that not all native GNOME apps are "obeying" the themes selected?
[04:19] <eclypse> dli:cpu scaling isant the issue here
[04:19] <Madpilot> DarkSpirit, something like that, yes
[04:19] <alpha255> scott: just take a note of where you login from and limit to those domains / ip #
[04:19] <alpha255> 's
[04:19] <DarkSpirit> _Luks: Is it a Live CD with an option to install ?
[04:19] <scott> ok
[04:19] <eclypse> dli: or atleast, it doesn't seem to be
[04:19] <eclypse> cge: what things can you recommend?
[04:19] <_Luks> DarkSpirit: yes ;D
[04:20] <eclypse> cge: I've tried different desktop environments...not for me
[04:20] <acetech> does anyone know what i should type in to remove the nvidia drivers from automatix, i think there is a conflict between them and the NVIDIA oem drivers
[04:20] <inoles> _Luks?
[04:20] <_Luks> DarkSpirit: you can run Ubuntu Live-CD without install it
[04:20] <cge> eclypse: You should try changing the theme to something like Mist if you haven't tried it, since I have heard that the default uses Cairo and is slower. You could also try replacing metacity with another window manager, like XFWM.
[04:20] <eclypse> cge: and I'de REALLY like to make XGL work, I plan to make this more of a work laptop then a gaming laptop
[04:20] <alpha255> scott: i highly recommd the ssh connections over telnet and sftp over ftp
[04:20] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys.  I installed the proprietary drivers, but since they suck, I want to try the xorg apt-get drivers..  What should I do first to uninstall the proprietary stuff
[04:20] <DarkSpirit> I only ask because I tried Kubuntu, and it was 4.3GB. It was a LiveCD with option to install.
[04:20] <eclypse> cge: XFWM wont change the look of gnome correct?
[04:20] <alpha255> scott: and make sure to keep openssh package up to date
[04:20] <alpha255> too
[04:20] <scott> k
[04:21] <_Luks> DarkSpirit: but was it Ubuntu Dapper Drake ?
[04:21] <DarkSpirit> _Luks: But you can install if you want using the Desktop PC ?
[04:21] <DarkSpirit> Desktop CD
[04:21] <cge> eclypse: Not really. It will change the feel of the window manager somewhat, and will make the window decorations look a bit different, but it will be mostly the same.
[04:21] <Kibou> xfwm4 has one major flaw though
[04:21] <Madpilot> DarkSpirit, 4.3Gb - that must have been the DVD ISO
[04:21] <ghozt> hey guys, is there a way to start programs or use commands when gnome starts
[04:21] <DarkSpirit> Ubuntu 6.06
[04:21] <_Luks> DarkSpirit: Only Dapper Drake have this option
[04:21] <alpha255> anyone else want to comment on ftp?
[04:21] <zquirm> oh this is so extremely annoying
[04:21] <eclypse> cge: how so?
[04:21] <zquirm> it looks like I have to give up on Ubuntu, since they didn't seem to put enough work into making the console usable
[04:22] <scott> do i have to be in root? to deny?
[04:22] <Madpilot> zquirm, huh?
[04:22] <_Luks> both server and desktop cd's can do it
[04:22] <boga> zquirm: wassup?
[04:22] <inono> Wesnoth would've been cool if you didnt have to friggin rebuild your units at the begnining of the next campaign scenario
[04:22] <planetcall> zquirm, what is the complain about it ?
[04:22] <DarkSpirit> I will try out the LiveCD anyway.
[04:22] <BioVorE> http://www.icculus.org/  Linux gamming stuff
[04:22] <scott> Are they still working on that?
[04:22] <inono> I mean seriously, like irl all your soldiers would magically run away between missions
[04:22] <DarkSpirit> Thanks
[04:22] <LjL> zquirm: weird that the console seems to work perfectly for most people, from what i've seen in this channel since months. perhaps it's just your computer that's particularly peculiar, rather than the (enthusiast) ubuntu community being lazy?
[04:23] <cge> eclypse: Well, it just _feels different_. It is more slightly configurable than Metacity, but you can configure it to be mostly the same. The themes are slightly different, but again, are mostly the same. XFWM uses the same toolkit (GTK), so it isn't very different. I believe the only thing that breaks is the window theme selection in Theme Preferences.
[04:23] <Madpilot> inono, you know there's a "Recall" command as well as a "Recruit" command, you know - in Wesnoth
[04:23] <jorvis_> rule1 when trying to get help: trash on the app you are trying to use and watch everyone run to defend it.
[04:23] <inono> yeah and they both cost money
[04:23] <alpha255> scott: take a look at dapper drake
[04:23] <Kibou> xfwm4 doesn't remove the borders on maximized windows which ..sucks
[04:23] <_Luks> how to personalize my xterm console ?
[04:23] <eclypse> cge: I see. you wouldn't happen to have a Dell Laptop would you?
[04:23] <Madpilot> inono, think of it as monthly wages for your troops :)
[04:23] <ghozt> anyone know how to run commands at gnome startup?
[04:24] <cge> eclypse: D600.
[04:24] <alpha255> scott: it is two releases newer and has some significant advantages
[04:24] <LjL> jorvis_: hey, i haven't seen such good advice since the times when you'd have to ask for a C64 in order to buy a Spectrum
[04:24] <eclypse> cge: heh
[04:24] <eclypse> cge: I have a Inspiron 6000
[04:24] <zquirm> OK, the problem is fairly simple. I'm SSHing into my Ubuntu-server with a windows app called SecureCRT. Using terminal emulation "Linux." BitchX, nano, etc, they all have fine ANSI and everything looks correct. However, aptitude, which I need to administer my servers, does not.
[04:24] <eclypse> cge: any major differences?
[04:24] <_Luks> ghozt:Menu > System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup
[04:24] <inono> Madpilot, i dont care about the goddamn monthly wages, but they shouldnt disappear
[04:24] <cge> Kibou: But it _does_ do vertical maximize, which is really nice.
[04:24] <zquirm> It's full of remnants and corrupted characters.
[04:24] <inoles> hey LjL?
[04:24] <eclypse> cge: I would like to have a short discussion with you about some issues I've had with this.
[04:24] <inono> Madpilot, all i remember is that it pissed me off, i started cheating, and lsot interest
[04:24] <cge> eclypse: I'm not sure. I don't think so.
[04:24] <Madpilot> inoles, cheating will do that...
[04:24] <zquirm> So I fixed the problem by editing /etc/environment and changing LANG="en_US.UTF-8" to LANG="en_US.UTF-16"
[04:24] <cge> eclypse: Go ahead.
[04:24] <ghozt> thanks a lot, _Luks :D
[04:24] <scott> I tried but I cant even make your text turn red yet
[04:24] <jorvis_> LjL: heh
[04:24] <Kibou> cge: I'm using firefox alot and it just annoys the hell outta me that I have to aim for the scrollbar..
[04:25] <zquirm> Once I set it to UTF-16, Aptitude ansi looks perfect.
[04:25] <_Luks> ghozt: ur welcome
[04:25] <LjL> inoles: yes, i'm here
[04:25] <zquirm> HOWEVER
[04:25] <eclypse> cge:can you join channel eclypse  so we can talk without everyone else talking inbetwen us?
[04:25] <eclypse> cge: its just easier
[04:25] <zquirm> After I set it to UTF-16, Aptitude *looks* perfect, but it spits these errors: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PuSGtB51.html
[04:25] <cge> eclypse: Yes
[04:25] <inoles> LjL: i already defrag HDD but Linux still detect76 GB
[04:26] <nickrud> zquirm, you can get the same results with LANG="C" aptitude
[04:26] <zquirm> I just want it to work.
[04:26] <cafuego> inoles: 76GiB is the size of an 80GB harddisk.
[04:26] <zquirm> I'm frustrated.
[04:27] <LjL> inoles: hm, then i wouldn't know what the problem might be :\
[04:27] <inoles> cafe, how i make it to 20 GB for NTFS
[04:28] <dli> inoles, you are resize ntfs using parted
[04:28] <inoles> i already did resize NTFS.. its not show correct space
[04:28] <cafuego> inoles: The 76GB is ntfs? Use 'parted' to resize it to 20GB (make SURE you have less then 20GB of data on it)
[04:29] <inoles> qtparted?
[04:29] <zquirm> nobody responded....
[04:29] <cafuego> inoles: Also, make certain no partition on that drive is mounted whilst resizing.
[04:29] <scott> 76285 to be xact
[04:29] <hikikomori> hi
[04:29] <inoles> its not mounted.
[04:29] <scott> it'll go down from there
[04:29] <cafuego> !80/1.024
[04:29] <hikikomori> can anybody tell me how can i see mov movies in ubuntu?
[04:29] <ubotu> 78.125
[04:30] <BioVorE> hikikomori: install mplayer and the w32codecs
[04:30] <cafuego> !tell hikikomori -about restrictedformats
[04:30] <scott> can anybody tell me what format? (*.***)
[04:30] <aaronm23> can anyone help me compile and install the latest version of alsa from alsa-project.org, i'm having troubles
[04:30] <inoles> cafe, how i resize NTFS in gparted?
[04:30] <jorvis_> hikikomori: you might try: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[04:30] <cafuego> aaronm23: Any reason you're trying to wreck the system?
[04:31] <scott> did they ever get that ntfs to linux thingy workin?
[04:31] <eFoX> hey..anyone know how well usb wireless adapters work with ubuntu ?
[04:31] <BioVorE> read is fine.. write is dangerious
[04:31] <aaronm23> cafuego: what do you mean?
[04:31] <dli> eFoX, depends on chipsets, http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/
[04:31] <varsendaggr> aaronm23, alsa shoudl work out of the box, what are you trying to do?
[04:31] <cafuego> aaronm23: Installing non-packaged system libs over the top of existing ones?
[04:32] <aaronm23> varsendaggr: my soundcard does not work out of the box
[04:32] <zquirm> nickrud: Why should I have to do LANG="C" aptitude ?
[04:32] <cafuego> aaronm23: .... normally an extremely bad idea.
[04:32] <eFoX> dli: thanks, ill have a look at it
[04:32] <cafuego> aaronm23: Then you will need to create custom local packages from the tarballs. Don't just compile and 'make install' over the top. That *will* break things.
[04:32] <varsendaggr> aaronm23, is anypart of it working?
[04:32] <scott> Can anyone tell me how to access my windows stuff from ubuntu??
[04:33] <varsendaggr> scott, !samba
[04:33] <cafuego> Normally you only need the alsa-libs to be upgraded.
[04:33] <scott> Or is it even posible>
[04:33] <aaronm23> varsendaggr: i don't believe so
[04:33] <dli> eFoX, zd1211 works for me, http://zd1211.ath.cx/
[04:33] <varsendaggr> scott, did you get that
[04:33] <aaronm23> cafuego: how do i do that?
[04:33] <eFoX> dli: can you put it into monitor mode ?
[04:33] <cafuego> scott: Just moun tthe windows partition, that gives you read-only access.
[04:33] <scott> read only?
[04:33] <scott> how do i mount?
[04:33] <cHagHi> hi
[04:34] <scott> event not found (!samba)
[04:34] <nickrud> zquirm, not sure. Except maybe that you don't have en_US.UTF-16 generated. Personally, I'd (and have done in other cases) create an alias for aptitude using LANG=C
[04:34] <hikikomori> hi
[04:34] <NickGarvey> scott: comfortable with the command line?
[04:34] <NickGarvey> haha
[04:34] <scott> no
[04:34] <scott> not yet
[04:34] <cHagHi> is it possible to boot the desktop cd without using evms?
[04:34] <hikikomori> can anybody tell me how can i see mov movies on ubuntu?
[04:34] <NickGarvey> !tell scott about samba
[04:34] <scott> please
[04:34] <cHagHi> i mean, disabling evms?
[04:34] <NickGarvey> !tell hikikomori about restrictedformats
[04:34] <dli> hikikomori, mplayer can do it
[04:34] <NickGarvey> !tell hikikomori about restricted
[04:34] <hikikomori> mplayer?
[04:34] <hikikomori> ok thanx
[04:35] <miguelsr> some body knows how it takes to start flashplugin to dapper? Configurando flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3) ...
[04:35] <scott> thanx
[04:35] <tb77> hikikomori:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:35] <Dial_tone> my dang volume level is too low
[04:35] <nbound> !multimedia
[04:35] <ubotu> multimedia is, like, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[04:35] <eFoX> dli: are you able to put your usb adapter into monitor mode ?
[04:36] <dli> eFoX, I don't know what is monitor
[04:36] <digimars> got a tough kernel question
[04:36] <Alexi5> hello
[04:37] <aaronm23> can anyone help me get my sound card working? It's an echo Indigo DJ.
[04:37] <NickGarvey> digimars: I think therse a lot of smart people in ##linux
[04:37] <digimars> k, thanks
[04:37] <hikikomori> is movie player the same as mplayer?
[04:37] <Dial_tone> no
[04:37] <MrKeuner> jighead/ hi again. When I reboot fglrx is lost from volatile directory. what should I do?
[04:37] <Dial_tone> movie player it totem i think
[04:38] <transgress> why am i in ubuntu-unregged?
[04:38] <Alexi5> hello
[04:38] <jighead> MrKeuner, which kernel are you using 386 or 686?
[04:39] <jighead> MrKeuner, you said reinstallation helped, so if you are using a different kernel this time...
[04:39] <alpha255> nite
[04:39] <cHagHi> is it possible to boot dapper desktop cd disabling evms? it crashes on boot.
[04:39] <cHagHi> it was the same with breezy :(
[04:40] <Alexi5> how can i get to install telnet in ubuntu
[04:40] <NickGarvey> Alexi5: its there
[04:40] <Dial_tone> why not ssh?
[04:40] <zquirm> nickrud: Why doesn't this LANG="C" thing get fixed?
[04:41] <zquirm> what is even going on anyways?
[04:41] <zquirm> I don't understand it at all.
[04:41] <Alexi5> i just want to use telnet so i can test a telnet mediator client i am making
[04:41] <NickGarvey> Alexi5: ja its already there
[04:41] <Madpilot> Alexi5, open a terminal, type "telnet route.to.somewhere"
[04:42] <aaronm23> I'm trying to get my sound working can anyone help me, please???
[04:42] <NickGarvey> haha I used telnet today to watch the world cup
[04:42] <NickGarvey> very sweet stuff
[04:42] <nbound> i wonder how long until they put a fixed version of libgtk up for updates. i msick of seeing "keyboardlabel|CTRL+X" ina ll my gtk proggies
[04:42] <Alexi5> i meant the telnet server
[04:42] <tb77> aaronm23: what card?
[04:42] <NickGarvey> Alexi5: you want a telnet server?
[04:42] <varsendaggr> NickGarvey, that is coo
[04:42] <aaronm23> tb77: Echo indigo DJ
[04:42] <Alexi5> yes
[04:42] <NickGarvey> varsendaggr: google "ascii world cup"
[04:42] <tb77> aaronm23: is the correct module loaded?
[04:43] <NickGarvey> Alexi5: oh um.. I would just make one?
[04:43] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I am using 25-686 now. it did work for 23-686 so i thought I could do the same for 25-686, booted into 25 did the same thing(reinstallation) it worked again. but when I reboot again into 25 I see that some of the restricted drivers are in volatile but fglrx is not.
[04:43] <aaronm23> tb77: i don't know
[04:43] <NickGarvey> Alexi5: find one in python pretty easy..
[04:43] <tb77> aaronm23: open a terminal, type lsmod
[04:43] <Sjoerd-> hello, anyone here willing to help me a little with network manager gnome?
[04:43] <tb77> aaronm23: look for snd-card-indigodj
[04:43] <digimars> hello, I am running Ubuntu Dapper 6.06, and I have an AMD X2 4400+ dual core processor, but when I try to use anything other than a 386 kernel (e.g. 2.6.15-25 386), my system completely locks up, I've ran a memtest, and everything came back clean
[04:43] <aaronm23> tb77: no it isn't loaded
[04:44] <digimars> the kernel that I would like to get working is the 2.6.15-25-k7-smp
[04:44] <Alexi5> isn't there a telnet server for a ubuntu that can connect to and control the system remotely
[04:44] <digimars> but even the 686-smp one locks up, as well as a regular k7 kernel
[04:44] <tb77> aaronm23: try loading it, sudo modprobe snd-card-indigodj
[04:44] <digimars> any suggestions as to where to start?
[04:44] <scott> what is my servername/sharename to mount xp
[04:44] <cHagHi> both breezy & dapper live cds crash while loading evms on amd64/sata/nforce4. is it possible to disable it?
[04:45] <ximkolo> hey guys, i hate to barge in, but i have a very quick fast noob question here,  how can i tell what kernel i am using, i have the new dapper 6.06
[04:45] <tb77> aaronm23: it might be snd-indigodj try that too
[04:45] <scott> i want to access it from the same terminal
[04:45] <Dial_tone> sweet, alsamixer solved it
[04:45] <SixtyWatt> ximkolo, uname -r
[04:45] <MrKeuner> jighead/ nvidia.ko is still there though
[04:45] <digimars> ximkolo: uname -r
[04:45] <scott> I would like to !samba on dualboot
[04:45] <ximkolo> thanks guys
[04:45] <SixtyWatt> welcome = )
[04:45] <Sjoerd-> Anyone using network manager gnome?
[04:45] <scott> system I have lynksys
[04:45] <aaronm23> tb77: it's snd-indigodj, but i get an error saying "Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter "
[04:46] <scott> Any takers??
[04:46] <scott> xplaim
[04:46] <zquirm> where should system-wide aliases go?
[04:46] <jighead> MrKeuner, does running /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common restart make it show up?
[04:47] <MrKeuner> jighead/ trying
[04:47] <jighead> zquirm, /etc/profile for bash
[04:47] <MrKeuner> jighead/ no it does not
[04:49] <zquirm> Well, how do I do it?
[04:49] <tb77> aaronm23: i'm not sure about that error
[04:49] <Kibou> digimars: lockup + moving mouse might be a nvidia bug
[04:50] <zquirm> alias aptitude='LANG="C" aptitude'
[04:50] <zquirm> ?
[04:50] <maddash> does anyone know how to swap partition table entries?
[04:50] <ic56> maddash: yes.  Be more specific
[04:50] <maddash> ic56: okay, when I do "sudo parted /dev/sda"
[04:50] <discofro> Does anybody know much about minix?
[04:50] <mitja> Hi! How do I stop Xorg, but stay in init level 3?
[04:51] <maddash> ic56: then I do, "print", I see a list of my partition table
[04:51] <maddash> ic56: entries
[04:51] <jighead> MrKeuner, by any chance do you have fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:51] <discofro> I'm not able to boot Ubuntu, getting a fatal minix not found error
[04:51] <MagicFab> hi
[04:51] <aaronm23> can anyone help me get my sound working?
[04:51] <MrKeuner> jighead/ oops yes
[04:51] <MagicFab> are there any ogg theora (video) gui editing tools ?
[04:52] <maddash> ic56: basically, I want to be able to switch the entries listed under "MINOR x" and "MINOR y"
[04:52] <jighead> MrKeuner, whew, i was really lost on that one
[04:52] <maddash> ic56: does it make sense to you?
[04:52] <MrKeuner> jighead/ hehe sorry
[04:52] <discofro> Any ideas on my Fatal Minix not found error?
[04:52] <MrKeuner> jighead/ trying reboot
[04:52] <jighead> MrKeuner, you should just be able to restart the /etc/init.d script
[04:53] <zquirm> I did PURGE on pcmciautils, and yet, it says:
[04:53] <zquirm> dpkg - warning: while removing pcmciautils, directory `/etc/pcmcia' not empty so not removed.
[04:53] <sloncho> hi. 6.06. i installed mysql-server, then I set a root password, but looks like I misstyped it. now I want to recover. I tried to uninstall mysql-server, deleted /var/lib/mysql and /etc/mysql, and reinstalled mysql-server. but it still insists on password for root. How do I make a "clean" install, so I can start with empty password, and set whatever I want
[04:53] <zquirm> why won't it delete the config.opts file there?
[04:54] <MrKeuner> jighead/ I did /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common stop but volatile directory is still there
[04:54] <maddash> ic56: any ideas?
[04:54] <ic56> maddash: by switch, do you mean exchange Minor numbers, or do you mean, exchange start/end locations of of two Filesystems?
[04:54] <acetech> can someone point me in the right direction for installing an HP Laserjet 4L in dapper?
[04:54] <kitchen1> dpkg: error processing cman (--configure)
[04:54] <discofro> I'm feeling a bit ignored...
[04:54] <discofro> :(
[04:54] <jighead> MrKeuner, and how about /etc/init.d/lrmc start then
[04:55] <maddash> ic56: exchange MINOR #'s.
[04:55] <aaronm23> can anyone help me get an Echo Indigo DJ sound card working?
[04:55] <kmilo> discofro, #minix is a better place for your questions
[04:55] <Dial_tone> I can't decide if I want to nuke my 300gb ntfs disk and make it ext3 storage
[04:55] <discofro> I'll give that a shot
[04:55] <discofro> thanks
[04:55] <MrKeuner> jighead/ somehow I do not have that script
[04:55] <ic56> maddash: so you want, eg, 3 to appear before 2 ?
[04:55] <Dial_tone> main problem is I need somewhere to copy the files while I do it.
[04:56] <zquirm> more damned annoying problems.
[04:56] <jighead> MrKeuner, i abbreviated because i am tired of typing out linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:56] <zquirm> when I do sudo aptitude, it's not using my alias
[04:56] <kitchen1> While upgrading ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 I get this: dpkg: error processing cman (--configure)
[04:56] <mitja> jighead: that worked, thanks
[04:56] <MrKeuner> jighead/ oh . i did all sorts of things with it volatile directory is always there with the fglrx in it
[04:57] <MrKeuner> jighead/ may be I should just reboot
[04:57] <mirine> Hello... I'm new. I'm trying to get the ubuntu online with a wireless card (Airnet: AWD108) and the CD that came with it only came with drivers meant for the various windows. I cam across this site ( http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List ) but I'm stumped as to what I should do next to get the ubuntu be able to use the wireless device.
[04:57] <jighead> MrKeuner, can't hurt
[04:57] <discofro> The people in #minix are saying that minix is a completely different OS than ubuntu
[04:57] <zquirm> Why can't dpkg purge pcmciautils ?
[04:58] <NickGarvey> discofro: because iti s?
[04:58] <discofro> I have no idea
[04:58] <zquirm> why won't it delete its own config file when I set it to purge ?
[04:58] <forkmantis> Hello #ubuntu
[04:58] <MoNkUnLe> is there no kernel-source package for 2.6 ?
[04:58] <NickGarvey> forkmantis: hello!
[04:58] <NickGarvey> MoNkUnLe: of course there is
[04:58] <NickGarvey> MoNkUnLe: linux-source-(version)
[04:58] <discofro> What's happening is, when I boot my system on Ubuntu 5.10, it says "FATAL: Module minix not found"
[04:58] <MoNkUnLe> can i dload it through ubuntu
[04:58] <varsendaggr> discofro, why do you think it is the same?
[04:58] <forkmantis> I'm trying to set up LVM, and am having trouble using pvcreate on the target drive
[04:58] <discofro> I can't find any reference to this error on the wiki
[04:58] <discofro> there is one workaround in the forums
[04:58] <discofro> but it's making more errors...
[04:59] <forkmantis> I'm getting this:  Can't open /dev/hdc exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[04:59] <ubergeek> hi
[04:59] <jighead> discofro, does your machine boot past the error? or does it hang there?
[04:59] <zquirm> how can I be having so many problems? Is my ubuntu usage-pattern really SO different from other people? ssh'ing into server and using aptitude?
[04:59] <zquirm> i am ready to trash this thing
[05:00] <discofro> jighead, it hangs and it gives me a prompt to enter command-line
[05:00] <ubergeek> I cannot compose characters in a spanish keyboard using de alt_r key, I have seen this is an extended problem but none of the solutions I have tried worked
[05:00] <jighead> discofro, do you have minix in /etc/modules?
[05:01] <woodwizzle> I am having a horrible time with a ati mobility radeon 9200. I've tried the "ati" driver, the "radeon" driver and the "fglrx" driver and none of them work AT ALL. not just 3D. They all cause xorg to hang and not load.
thx it was the using of kernel-source instead of linux-source
[05:01] <NickGarvey> MoNkUnLe: :)
[05:01] <discofro> jighead, I get an error that says "Cannot read /etc/fstabs" when I try to mount the main drive
[05:01] <discofro> Does that mean my hard drive is dead?
[05:01] <budward> Anyone else running Ubuntu on a MAc Mini?
[05:01] <forkmantis> Anyone here experienced w/ setting up LVM?
[05:02] <kmilo> bye
[05:02] <budward> Linux fleas 2.6.15-23-powerpc #1 Tue May 23 13:46:54 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux
[05:02] <kitchen1> While upgrading ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 I get this: topping cluster managerinvoke-rc.d: initscript cman, action "stop" failed., dpkg: error processing cman (--configure) - I've tried dpkg --configure -a, apt-get remove cman, all with same results. I'm lost.
[05:02] <budward> :)
[05:02] <Arc> does anyone know how to get the usb modem kernel module?
[05:02] <Arc> for 6.06
[05:03] <Healot> cdcether?
[05:03] <jighead> discofro, root should be mounted when you hit enter to get the command-line
[05:03] <maddash> ic56: ok, perhaps this is more clear: my MBR houses 3 primary partition entries (#1, #2, and #4) and 1 extended partition entry (#3). Would it work if I directly used a hex editor to swap entries #3 and #4 and then "dd" the stuff back to the MBR?
[05:04] <discofro> does the error "mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such Device" mean my hard drive is fragged?
[05:04] <acetech> can someone point me in the right direction for installing an HP Laserjet 4L in dapper?
[05:04] <discofro> jighead, when I just type 'mount' I get '/proc/mounts: No such file or directory"
[05:05] <Quiet> ntu-offtopic
[05:05] <Geoffrey2> is there a command I can type in terminal to return the cpu type?
[05:06] <Dial_tone> cat /proc/cpuinfo or something
[05:06] <maddash> ic56: ie, the entries start at (MBR+0x1BE)....so, could I manually swap the values located between (MBR+0x1BE+0x20) to (MBR+0x1BE+0x30) with (MBR+0x1BE+0x30) to (MBR+0x1BE+0x40)?
[05:07] <codecaine> I upgraded ubuntu now my my xserver won't load because of the new kernel what do I do to fix this?
[05:07] <discofro> To anybody: does the error "mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such Device" mean my hard drive is fragged?
[05:07] <Dial_tone> model name	: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 1.80GHz
[05:07] <Dial_tone> model name	: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 1.80GHz
[05:07] <Dial_tone> model name	: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 1.80GHz
[05:07] <Dial_tone> model name	: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 1.80GHz
[05:07] <Dial_tone> sorry
[05:07] <aaron_m23> Can anyone help me get my sound working on an Echo Indigo DJ?
[05:08] <sloncho> hi. 6.06. i installed mysql-server, then I set a root password, but looks like I misstyped it. now I want to recover. I tried to uninstall mysql-server, deleted /var/lib/mysql and /etc/mysql, and reinstalled mysql-server. but it still insists on password for root. How do I make a "clean" install, so I can start with empty password, and set whatever I want
[05:08] <Dial_tone> codecaine: tail /var/log/Xorgwhatever.log for the error
[05:08] <maddash> discofro: what command did you use?
[05:08] <discofro> It says that upon bootup
[05:08] <discofro> And the bootup fails
[05:08] <NickGarvey> sloncho: hmm.. give me a sec..
[05:08] <sjoerd_> Hello, anybody knows what to do when Network Manager Gnome does not list my Linksys card?
[05:09] <maddash> discofro: are you still able to boot up  into Linux?
[05:09] <Frederick> anyone here using kdevelop in ubuntu?
[05:09] <NickGarvey> sloncho: oh yes.. the power of google
[05:09] <NickGarvey> sloncho: http://community.postnuke.com/Article1273.htm
[05:09] <ic56> maddash: so that the filesystem currently at ...0x20-0x30 would get swapped for the one at ...0x30-0x40 ?
[05:10] <Geoffrey2> ok, I have a 1.4Ghz Celeron M...would the 686 kernel make much of a difference in overall performance?
[05:10] <maddash> ic56: yes, but ONLY the ENTRIES...not the actual partitions (on the hard disk) themselves
[05:10] <discofro> maddash, no it stops about 25% of the way through, then it hangs and it gives me a prompt saying "UIncompressing Linux... Ok, booting hte kernal. Laoding, please wait... FATAL : MOdule minix not found. mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: No such device"
[05:11] <codecaine> fixed it I installed the modules for the new kernel for some reason it didn't on the update
[05:11] <maddash> discofro: Have you tried to boot off a live system? Maybe you could diagnose your problem from there...
[05:11] <sloncho> NickGarvey: perfect, I'll try
[05:11] <Frederick> folks any ideas for http://rafb.net/paste/results/H1nyba64.html ?
[05:11] <ali4728> Help! Does any one knows why I get this message [I/O error reading boot CD]  when starting to Instyall Ubuntu 6.06
[05:12] <maddash> ali4728: maybe your boot CD is damaged. Tried MD5-ing it?
[05:12] <codecaine> or you cd rom is dying out
[05:12] <maddash> ic56: what do you think?
[05:12] <discofro> maddash, unfortunately I don't have a live CD. all I need to do is get the files from the home folders off the system so I can reformat the drive. The problem is when I access the drive through another computer, I can't get into them because it says I don't have permission to do so because I'm not the owner. Is there another way I can gain access to those files?
[05:13] <ali4728> maddash: what is the ecact command for MD5 plsss
[05:13] <ic56> maddash: Yes, if you are only swapping entries, I think you can do that.  But why would you want to?  The reasons why you would want to suggest that in fact, your intent is different than what I have understood you to want.  Perhaps if you tell me why you want to do this, I'll be able to give a more considered answer.
[05:13] <zquirm> I am so unhappy with Ubuntu.
[05:13] <maddash> ali4728: are you using windows?
[05:13] <maddash> ali4728: or what?
[05:13] <ali4728> nope
[05:13] <caminomaster> Hello
[05:13] <zquirm> I've been messing with trying to get aptitude to display properly and not spit errors for hours and hours now
[05:13] <ali4728> Ubuntu
[05:13] <robert_> Hm, if I install mysql 5.x(dapper drake), which version of libmysqlclient(binary+dev version, same box) do I need to install?
[05:13] <zquirm> wasted the whole evening
[05:13] <robert_> ali4728: rtfm, and learn to speak english
[05:13] <dylan_> is Linux secure by default?
[05:14] <ali4728> maddash: ubuntu
[05:14] <ic56> maddash: want to suggest -> want to, suggest
[05:14] <Dial_tone> getting rid of this big ass crt would cut down on heat too
[05:14] <maddash> ali4728: "md5sum /dev/cdrom"
[05:14] <hikenboot> hello all-- how do i determine the current color depth selected for my x display?
[05:14] <ali4728> maddash: thanks alot
[05:14] <steveO> dylan_: not typically
[05:14] <steveO> dylan_: thought I have heard Ubuntu does pretty well on a default install..
[05:15] <mada> anyone here know much about scripting languages?
[05:15] <Frederick> folks any ideas for http://rafb.net/paste/results/H1nyba64.html ?
[05:15] <dylan_> steveO, so could i lock down a Windows desktop to be more secure than Linux?
[05:15] <Madpilot> dylan_, Ubuntu's default is secure enough for most users
[05:15] <Healot> mada: web scripting or shell scripting?
[05:15] <maddash> discofro: how are you accessing the hd from the computer that is about to be formatted? by booting into it?
[05:15] <Madpilot> dylan_, I doubt it, TBH...
[05:15] <maddash> ali4728: no problem.
[05:15] <steveO> dylan_: you can lock down either.. to be secure.
[05:15] <caminomaster> which CD cataloger can U suggest?
[05:15] <eclypse> is it possible to have more then one server open on XChat?
[05:15] <mada> Healot: should have been more specific ... scripting languages ... perl, python, ruby, etc.
[05:15] <steveO> dylan_: might have more luck locking down linux if you really know what you're doing.
[05:15] <acetech> anyone have luck on setting up an HP printer here?
[05:15] <sjoerd_> Anyone knows what to do when Network Manager Gnome does not recognise my wireless network card?
[05:16] <Healot> mada: web scripting or shell scripting?
[05:16] <b0rg> if anyoen has a few free mins to talk with me about ubuntu pm me. iam brand new and have alot of questions.
[05:16] <steveO> b0rg: such as?
[05:16] <Madpilot> acetech, my HP Deskjet pretty much auto-detected...
[05:16] <maddash> ic56: basically, I own a laptop that has a special button. At boot time, when the button is pressed, the computer boots into a partition (#4) different from what it would have, had the button not been pressed (#1).
[05:16] <mada> Healot: i guess shell for now
[05:17] <Nephlim> hey guys
[05:17] <mada> hi
[05:17] <caminomaster> please suggest me a CD cataloger
[05:17] <maddash> ic56: so now, I want the comp to boot into ubuntu when I press the button, b/c it saves me the trouble of having to wait for ntldr to display the list of OS's for me to select (call me impatient).
[05:17] <acetech> MadPilot, i just realized why it was not working... it should have been the first thing to check... it was not plugged in
[05:18] <b0rg> well. out of most cases does ubuntu run right outta the box?
[05:18] <johnZay> Hi.. how would I go about mappying the "Windows" button on my keybaord to make my computer switch workspace?
[05:18] <steveO> b0rg: yah
[05:18] <Madpilot> acetech, heh... that's tech support question #1 - Is it plugged in? Are you sure? ;)
[05:18] <acetech> Madpilot, i guess it was plugged in
[05:18] <ic56> maddash: yes. that is a good reason for swapping entries, and this can be done.  Mind you, it will be confusing at some point in the future, when you're trying to recover data from your old corrupted disk and the 2nd partition is physically stored before the 1st...
[05:19] <maddash> ic56: I've installed ubuntu and its swap partition under an extended partition....I figured that the button works by booting to into partition #4, regardless of whatever is actually located @ partition #4
[05:19] <Geoffrey2> eclypse, yes, you can be connected to several servers at the same time in Xchat
[05:19] <nacho_wide> this is a fun channel. thanks for all the help guys.  later
[05:19] <maddash> ic56: so theoretically, it ought to work, right?
[05:19] <christianpiper> n00b Question: How can I trace an email to it's sender?
[05:20] <discofro> well, i give up, the hard drive must have just died.
[05:20] <christianpiper> Or, more simply, an IP to a location?
[05:20] <acetech> i have parport 39560  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc in my lsmod
[05:20] <Madpilot> christianpiper, I'm not an expert, but mail headers can be forged fairly easily - makes email hard to trace sometimes
[05:21] <christianpiper> I know that... Can you (op anyone else) point me to a USEFUL (I have tried searching) site on the subject?
[05:21] <ic56> maddash: yes. but you must also modify /etc/fstab to modify the device names.  Eg, if you swap partitions 1 and 4, look in /etc/fstab and change (in the 1st column) /dev/hda1 to /dev/hda4 or /dev/hda4 to /dev/hda1 (change both, if both are listed)
[05:22] <heatxsink> hello all for some reason when I install libapache2-mod-perl2 restart apache2, when doing a apache2 -L | grep perl I can't see that mod_perl has been loaded
[05:22] <heatxsink> can anyone help me figure out why this is?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> christianpiper: you don't
[05:23] <Nephlim> anyone know where i can get Lexmark drivers?
[05:23] <NickGarvey> christianpiper: after it goes through the server
[05:24] <NickGarvey> christianpiper: you have no idea where its been
[05:24] <Nephlim> ubuntu seems to have a limited selection
[05:24] <NickGarvey> christianpiper: unless, you host your own web server
[05:24] <ic56> maddash: Also, you better do this while booted from a different boot medium --like the CD.  The system might get very confused and do all kinds of damage if the device /dev/hda1 all of sudden is pointing to a different partition -- the sectors will start getting written to the wrong places and you'll corrupt your disks.
[05:24] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone help me get an ipod working as a rw disk?
[05:24] <tuxtheslacker> it's formatted for a mac, and I've yet to get it working.
[05:24] <Krhis> I had to go through hell to get Lexmark working.... bought a better printer.
[05:24] <robert_> Hm, if I install mysql 5.x(Dapper Drake), which version of libmysqlclient(binary and -dev package, also ubuntu) do I need to install to get php 4.4.3's ./configure to work properly?
[05:24] <tuxtheslacker> ///////66?
[05:24] <tuxtheslacker> ^^^??
[05:25] <Frederick> folks I need some help with amarok, it doesmt work here no music is played
[05:25] <tuxtheslacker> anyone use an ipod with it?
[05:25] <dicesquirre1> I've been reading the forums, but I can't seem to find a good way to install E17 as my Window Manager. I tried the easy_e17.sh script, and that didn't work, because I think it's geared towards Breezy, or something along those lines... could someone tell me how to get E17 up and running?
[05:25] <Krhis> O.o I just pluged in my iPod.
[05:26] <Toma-> ubotu: tell tuxtheslacker about ipod
[05:26] <tuxtheslacker> Toma-, it doesn't work....
[05:26] <tuxtheslacker> like it mounts, but when you try to write to it it says read only.
[05:26] <Toma-> tuxtheslacker: theres about 5000 reasons why it might not "work"
[05:26] <christianpiper> NickGarvey: Well, I examined a header just now, and was able to trace scrtpnpl@netscape.com to three lakes WI- BUT using a windows IP lookup tool...
[05:26] <b0rg> some point to  software for bittorent,irc, ect as i want to have it handy for when i isntall ubunt unless it coems with it....
[05:27] <tuxtheslacker> Toma-, I'm assuming this deals with permissions.
[05:27] <Toma-> tuxtheslacker: ok, its a wacky udev permission problem. probably because its formatted as a HFS filesystem right?
[05:27] <tuxtheslacker> Toma-, yup, how woudl I fix it?
[05:27] <Toma-> tuxtheslacker: READ the howto and pay attention to the part about fstab
[05:27] <dicesquirre1> And as far as Ubuntu 6.06 "LTS" goes, what service exactly is implied by the "LTS" moniker?
[05:28] <tuxtheslacker> Toma-, I did put it in fstab....
[05:28] <Toma-> ie. "/dev/ipod               /mnt/ipod               auto    noauto,user,rw 0 0"
[05:28] <dicesquirre1> I've always been fairly hazy about that. What does LTS really mean?
[05:28] <rredd4> my update manager loaded a new kernel...  I use the 686 kernel not the 386 kernel.  Could ubuntu people make it so that when a new kernel installs, it asks you which kernel that a person wants?
[05:29] <rredd4> now I have to reinstall a 686 kernel and reconfig ndiswrapper...
[05:29] <maddash> ic56: thank you
[05:29] <ic56> maddash: yw!
[05:30] <Hobbsee> rredd4: install linux-image-686 for that
[05:30] <Hobbsee> rredd4: and yes, you'll need to compile ndiswrapper
[05:31] <rredd4> Hobbsee ok, i just wish that it would ask me which kernel i want, would be a lot less hassle
[05:31] <andres> hello all
[05:31] <Hobbsee> rredd4: remove linux-image-386, install linux-image-686, it will automatically get you the latest 686 kernel, and not the 386 one
[05:32] <keaton> Does anyone here know how to mount a PSP?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> rredd4: ie, functionality already exists, you're just not using it.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> keaton,  Hmm.. not sure.. :P i got one right here.. but i dont know where my cable is.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> keaton,  i just pop out the memory stick
[05:32] <andres> is anyone here wise in the ways of compiling a module of a modified C file?
[05:33] <SixtyWatt> I have a DS, I have to try to mount it
[05:33] <jjack> question... i'm trying to install to a hard disk, its the last chunk of free/unformatted/unpartitioned space on my machine.. how would i do this?
[05:33] <codecaine> when I upgraded ubuntu now mplayer plays movies all distorted what could cause this?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> keaton,  plug it in.. enable the usb mode.. and check dmesg output. and it may auto-mount it.
[05:33] <ic56> jjack: how many primary partitions already in use on that disk?
[05:33] <dicesquirre1> So, could anyone enlighten me as far as 1) Installing Enlightenment 17 on Dapper and 2) what "LTS" actually means?
[05:34] <someothernick> whats the size of this free/unformatted/unpartitioned space?
[05:34] <jjack> umm... 3 i think
[05:34] <rredd4> Hobbsee is there any way to fix the update manager so that it only installs the 686 for me?
[05:34] <Hobbsee> rredd4: sure, i told you how to
[05:34] <keaton> Dr_Willis: I'll try that
[05:34] <Hobbsee> rredd4: remove linux-image-386, install linux-image-686, it will automatically get you the latest 686 kernel, and not the 386 one
[05:34] <roler> is there a log of updates that were installed? i'm trying to troubleshoot an issue i'm having with my wireless, and i'm trying to see what packages were upgraded this morning in ubuntu
[05:35] <nmsa> my sound is not working anymore how do I know if the sound modules are loaded and which ones to load ?
[05:35] <andres> I am getting several errors to the extent of "file or directory does not exist" (of the header type files) when compiling... does anyone have any ideas?
[05:35] <ic56> jjack: good.  Make the 4th partition an "extended" partition occupying the rest of the disk.  Then create as many logical partitions as you want, inside the extended partition.
[05:35] <b0rg> does xchat or soemthing like mirc get installed with ubunt?
[05:35] <keaton> Dr_Willis: Huzzah, it works!
[05:36] <[NP] Tangent> b0rg: yes, xchat comes with Ubuntu
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> keaton,  egads! :)
[05:36] <KrisWood> hi everyone, installing dapper for the first time, I'll keep you guys company while I go through it :)
[05:36] <andres> b0rg: xChat can be installed from package in ubuntu (already there)
[05:36] <ic56> does grub / Linux have any problems booting from logical (non-primary) partitions?  I don't think I've ever tried that...
[05:36] <PwcrLinux> Hello there :)
[05:36] <jjack> ok... sec... i have a /dev/sda4
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> ic56,  ive done it befor.. but it could perhaps matter on the mb/bios
[05:37] <jjack> now how what would i use for the "mountings" ?
[05:37] <harry> how do you set up an application as a startup program??
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > anyone here use gdesklets ?
[05:37] <rightcoast> actually i have wondered that, why isnt xchat, or irssi or at least something in the default install?
[05:37] <ic56> Dr_Willis: makes sense.  But in that case, one can put grub on the MBR and resolve teh problem.
[05:37] <bobstro> ic56:  that works fine
[05:37] <PwcrLinux> Does anyone who have a wifi card or wifi USB works on the Ubuntu lappy, which best product should be compatible with Ubuntu?
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > Trying to figure out if anybody has transparency problems using the applets
[05:37] <Krhis> rightcoast, Gaim supports irc.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> ic56,  ya can have grub on the mbr.,, that then boots/chainloads the mbr on hda5 or whatever.. then have a 2nd boot loader there.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !tell PwcrLinux about wifi
[05:38] <harry> how do you set up an application as a startup program??
[05:38] <dr3wster> hi, I just got dapper and the beagle search tool won't find anything other than my gaim logs or applications.   It won't even find anything on my _desktop_!  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:38] <aaron_m23> can anyone help me enable pcmcia on my laptop?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !tell PwcrLinux about wireless
[05:38] <RezDawg> Question, Im running breezy badger, 5.10 and want to do a clean install of 6.06.  is there an option to format the partition and install 6.06?  thanks in advance
[05:38] <ic56> jjack: /dev/sda4 will not be usable -- it's teh extended partition.  You will create logical partitions (in Linux, these are numbered starting at number 5) and for these you will get devices starting with /dev/hda5
[05:38] <Hobbsee> PwcrLinux: second link, about th wireless card
[05:38] <someothernick> RezDawg, yes
[05:38] <Krhis> harry, System > Prefs >Startup Programs
[05:38] <harry> how do you set up an application as a startup program??
[05:38] <hikenboot> can anyone recommend a package on ubuntu that will tell me the current color depth in use?
[05:38] <Mixx> can anyone point me in the direction of some help with running quake 4 on linux?  there doesn't seem to be much of an online presence of linux gamers (linux-gamers.net seems about it)
[05:38] <rightcoast> Krhis, ahh, yeah it does i forgot, i wouldnt use it, or havent anyway since i like irssi or even xchat
[05:38] <rightcoast> i forgot it did
[05:38] <harry> Krhis: thanks
[05:38] <Hobbsee> RezDawg: if you have the cd of 6.06, yes
[05:38] <[Ex0r] > I take it nobody does ?
[05:39] <ic56> Dr_Willis. Yes -- that's what I said.
[05:39] <andres> can anyone help me with compiler errors?
[05:39] <RezDawg> Hobbsee, im d/ling the image now, but i noticed its 714mb and cd's are 700mb is the image going to fit?
[05:39] <ThePub> RezDawg:  why clean install?  if everything is working fine, just dist-upgrade
[05:39] <harry> Krhis: theres no  "startup programs"
[05:39] <chris_> DBO here?
[05:39] <chris_> :)
[05:39] <Krhis> rightcoast, I guess Gaim is just more simple. I still use a mix of Xchat and irssi.
[05:39] <PwcrLinux> Hobbsee: Yep I got 2 of them in my prvmsg and DLink or TrendNet or LinkSys?
[05:39] <mister_roboto> andres: what are you trying to compile?
[05:39] <[Ex0r] > I am using gdesklets with the sidecandy desklets, and I can see a square all around my desklets that shows my background
[05:39] <Hobbsee> RezDawg: probably not, i'm surprised it's that big
[05:40] <Krhis> harry, System > Prefs >Sessions > Startup Programs
[05:40] <ic56> bobstro, Dr_Willis: thanks!
[05:40] <[Ex0r] > like that part of the screen is not being shown transparently
[05:40] <Hobbsee> PwcrLinux: any of the models that work out of the box, according to that hardware compatibility thing
[05:40] <aaron_m23> can anyone help me get my Echo Indigo DJ sound card working?
[05:40] <andres> mister_robato: im compiling the usb-serial.c file that I made some changes to
[05:40] <harry> Krhis: does the program starts automatically when i turn on my computer??
[05:41] <andres> im getting errors about "file or directory does not exist"
[05:41] <RezDawg> ThePub, well im new to linux and ive messed around with 5.10 trying to learn linux and im having problems with totems audio with windows media videos and i thought since i was messing around a clean install would be best in case i needed to tweak it to get everyting going
[05:41] <PwcrLinux> Hobbsee: cool, Should I plug in before or after the boots up?
[05:41] <Krhis> harry, you'll need to log in to your desktop.
[05:41] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[05:41] <Hobbsee> PwcrLinux: before
[05:41] <Krhis> harry, what are you trying to start?
[05:41] <PwcrLinux> Hobbsee: Okay great!
[05:41] <harry> Krhis: skype
[05:42] <Krhis> harry, then what I suggested will work.
[05:42] <ijeff> does anyone know if it is possible to change gnome to kde on an existing installation of ubuntu?
[05:42] <harry> Krhis: usually on what folder i could find the applications that i want to start like skype
[05:42] <PwcrLinux> Hobbsee: Next year I will be in the camping, they got T1 wireless at the camp site..
[05:42] <Matthew_W> Hey, small problem... My hard drive doesn't sound healthy, but I'm not sure - what kinds of sounds are normal, and what kinds are not?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> PwcrLinux: nice!
[05:42] <ThePub> ijeff:  just install the kde package :)
[05:42] <[Ex0r] > how do I restart a display ?
[05:42] <RezDawg> I like linux, if only i coud have a dvdshrink that would work for linux that i could understand how to use, i think i would not dualboot windows anymore
[05:43] <robert_> Hm, if I install mysql 5.x(Dapper Drake), which version of libmysqlclient(binary and -dev package, also ubuntu) do I need to install to get php 4.4.3's ./configure to work properly?
[05:43] <ijeff> ThePub: that's it? really?
[05:43] <ijeff> ThePub: how do i set to use it?
[05:43] <ThePub> when you login at the GDM prompt choose to change your session to KDE
[05:43] <Krhis> harry, just type in this "skype"
[05:43] <NickGarvey> kdm is what the cool kids use
[05:43] <ijeff> cool, linux amazes me everyday lol
[05:43] <ThePub> ijeff:  what I said up there :)
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> HFS+-fs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.
[05:44] <ijeff> thx ThePub
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> how do i fix that?
[05:44] <Krhis> harry, unlike windows you don't need to tell Linux the full path.
[05:44] <harry> Krhis: ok thanks
[05:44] <Krhis> harry, anytime.
[05:45] <andres> has anyone seen this when compiling before? /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/include/linux/linkage.h:5:25: error: asm/linkage.h: No such file or directory
[05:45] <harry> Krhis: how could i play a streaming video on the internet. the "sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin" doesnt work
[05:45] <crimsun> andres: what are you trying to do?
[05:45] <[Ex0r] > ouch
[05:45] <Krhis> harry, there's more too it.
[05:45] <Krhis> What are you trying to play?
[05:45] <tuxtheslacker> HFS+-fs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.
[05:45] <chris_> DBO you here pal?
[05:45] <tuxtheslacker> someome help?
[05:46] <KrisWood> Ooooh the new ubuntu install is pretty :)
[05:46] <Krhis> Hi, KrisWood.
[05:46] <KrisWood> Dapper really IS dapper hehe
[05:46] <Krhis> Nice name.
[05:46] <Krhis> ^^
[05:46] <KrisWood> Hi Khris :p
[05:46] <harry> Krhis: i'm a member of Friendster.  i cant play the streaming videos of my friends
[05:46] <Consty> could anything think as to why when shutting off a laptop that it would automatically reboot instead?  Even holding down the power and such?  No bios settings available to change power management, and it does it regardless of OS.  Any ideas?
[05:46] <KrisWood> I'm reformatting my WinXP to linux today, finally reached my last straw hehe
[05:46] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: be careful..
[05:47] <N9URK> anyone here use gnucash on ubuntu?
[05:47] <andres> crimsun: see other window
[05:47] <codecaine> ah isee why mplayer not working this update is under testing :(
[05:47] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: windows is still 100 dollar software
[05:47] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: make sure you have your install cd
[05:47] <ThePub> Windows works, it's just not interesting about doing it.  hehe
[05:47] <crimsun> andres: "other window" being ...
[05:47] <Krhis> harry, I need to know what media you are trying to play to help you out.
[05:47] <codecaine> avi dvix
[05:47] <codecaine> divx
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> [17180728.332000]  HFS+-fs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker>  ???
[05:47] <skavenge> ThePub; good statement
[05:47] <andres> heh, perhaps the private window didnt work =(
[05:47] <KrisWood> the Windows Genuine Advantage thing made it not worth the hassle anymore
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  you could ask a more detailed question..
[05:48] <andres> crimsun: trying to compile the usb-serial.c file to add a parameter I need in order to use my verizon wireless card
[05:48] <KrisWood> If I've got to go through a hassle to get my computer working I'd rather use linux
[05:48] <ThePub> skavenge:  lol, it's true :)  it does usually just do what you want, assuming you're not doing something "non-windows"
[05:48] <crimsun> andres: you're not identified, and this network refuses queries from unidentified users.
[05:48] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, how would I make it for write?
[05:48] <harry> Krhis: never mind the streaming video, i have another question.. why does mplayer give me an error message of an invalid argument everytime i play a vcd??
[05:48] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, looks like no one is going to helo you.
[05:48] <crimsun> andres: /msg nickserv help register
[05:48] <Krhis> Google.
[05:48] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HFS%2B-fs%3A+write+access+to+a+jounaled+filesystem+is+not+supported%2C+use+the+force+option+at+your+own+risk%2C+mounting+read-only.&btnG=Google+Search
[05:48] <andres> ah ok
[05:48] <andres> thanks
[05:48] <KrisWood> if cedega can get my 3dsmax working I'm happy
[05:48] <PwcrLinux> Anyone know about Canon IP1500 printer works on Ubuntu lappy?
[05:49] <andres> crimsun: as background, im following this page: http://www.junxion.com/opensource/linux_highspeed_usbserial.html
[05:49] <Krhis> harry, what's the error message?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  from the error message - sounds like there is a 'force' option - thats proberly documented in the man pages for 'mount'
[05:49] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, did that help?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  also sounds like it could trash the drive
[05:49] <b0rg> will iam takeing the plung iam gettign ready to install ubuntu wish me luck ;)
[05:50] <harry> Krhis: thats the only thing i cant remember perfectly. its something like "iO??? : invalid argument" but the vcd still plays
[05:50] <tuxtheslacker> 1 sec brb
[05:50] <roler> I am having a problem with video in ubuntu using a Radeon R200 QL... about 25% of the computer has no video. The computer itself is responsive... X fails to load with a signal 11... I'm not sure what to do
[05:50] <harry> Krhis: with ???, i dont recall whats in there
[05:50] <Krhis> harry, ah...
[05:50] <Graig> hmm, is there any way, to control how nautilus displays megabytes and stuff?  i am trying to burn a dvd, and its telling me there is 4.6 gigs of data in a folder. but theres actually 4.730 something.
[05:51] <Krhis> harry, I use Xine personally.
[05:51] <N9URK> Is there a cpan package in apt-get?
[05:51] <Krhis> Looks like I can't help you with media.
[05:51] <andres> do I need to sign back in with a different name if mione is already registered?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> N9URK,  try apt-cache search cpan
[05:51] <harry> Krhis: is that your default media player??
[05:51] <N9URK> Dr_Willis: THANKS
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, the porblem is that it was auto mounte.
[05:51] <chris_> amarok crashed someone help me out?
[05:51] <Krhis> harry, yes. But I do have Xine, Mplayer, and VLC installed.
[05:52] <chris_> did a amarok reinstallation
[05:52] <Krhis> chris_, just go ahead and ask.
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> mounted*
[05:52] <KrisWood> woot done installing, booting ubuntu now :)
[05:52] <chris_> krhis what do i do to fix it?
[05:52] <Krhis> ^^
[05:52] <chris_> it wont boot up?
[05:52] <KrisWood> bye bye XP :)
[05:52] <harry> Krhis: when trying to play vcd w/ mplayer. do you get the same error message?
[05:52] <Scotti> hey guys
[05:53] <Krhis> chris_, Well, first you must sacrifice a goat.
[05:53] <Krhis> chris_, jk jk.
[05:53] <Krhis> chris_, what error do you get?
[05:53] <chris_> nothing
[05:53] <chris_> just wont boot up
[05:53] <chris_> :|
[05:53] <Graig> does nautilus not format dvd+rw disks?  *sigh*
[05:53] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[05:53] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, what?
[05:53] <Krhis> chris_, open a terminal and run amarok.
[05:53] <Scotti> I am looking at Ubuntu.... I need you guys to give me a run down on it, I am thinking about starting to offer it to my home clients as an alternative to M$ Winblows..... Is there a way to get Windows progs to work on it yet, and is that hard to set up?
[05:53] <tuxtheslacker> I need to figure out how to get the auto mount to force my ipod to mount as a write device as well.
[05:54] <Krhis> Then tell me the error.
[05:54] <dragoon> anyone here use cedega ?
[05:54] <chris_> ok Krhis
[05:54] <Krhis> Did you read my suggestion?
[05:54] <chris_> nothing Khris
[05:54] <Krhis> chris_, sorry, I was talking to tuxtheslacker on that.
[05:54] <Krhis> chris_, did you open the terminal?
[05:54] <chris_> nothing shows up
[05:54] <Krhis> O.o
[05:54] <sjoerd_> Is Winamp available for Ubuntu? Or what music player should I try?
[05:55] <Krhis> chris_, you can't get the term up either?
[05:55] <Krhis> sjoerd, xmms.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> sjoerd,  dozens of media players out..
[05:55] <skavenge> beep is better
[05:55] <chris_> just nothing
[05:55] <Scotti> xmms ROCKS!
[05:55] <HedgeMage> Scotti: You can ask one of the gamer types about wine and cedega (two packages that may be used to rung M$ Windows programs)... as for ease of set-up, it's quite simple, though if you plan to be supporting it commercially, you should at least have some serious experience using it yourself first.
[05:55] <chris_> not at the next line yet
[05:55] <Scotti> its just the same really :)
[05:55] <Krhis> sjoerd, it also uses Wimp's skins.
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> Krhis, what was to me?
[05:55] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HFS%2B-fs%3A+write+access+to+a+jounaled+filesystem+is+not+supported%2C+use+the+force+option+at+your+own+risk%2C+mounting+read-only.&btnG=Google+Search
[05:55] <Graig> which is better graveman, or gnomebaker?
[05:55] <skavenge> *old* winamp skins that is
[05:55] <sjoerd_> alright Krhis
[05:55] <mister_roboto> Scotti: you could try using Wine to run Windows apps (sometimes easy, sometimes not, depends on the program).  also, you can get vmware for free now so you could actually run Windows in a vm on your linux desktop and that will work great (need windows disk though)
[05:55] <[Ex0r] > hmm, anyone know how to install adobe photoshop using wine ?
[05:55] <skavenge> xmms doesnt support any of the .ws3 or whatever skin format the new ones are in
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> Krhis, that link dind't get me anything useful.
[05:56] <Krhis> chris_, what are you using for a terminal?
[05:56] <Healot> I'll let Windows games run on Windows
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> wine adobephosshopsetup.exe    - would be my guess
[05:56] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, oh ok.
[05:56] <Healot> for god's sake, use Windows to run Windows applications
[05:56] <Krhis> lol
[05:56] <chris_> gnome terminal
[05:56] <tuxtheslacker> Krhis, any other ideaS?
[05:57] <Geoffrey2> Scotti, it's also quite possible you'd find acceptable Ubuntu substitutes for the Windows applications in question
[05:57] <Krhis> chris_, ok. type "amarok" and press enter.
[05:57] <chris_> i did
[05:57] <Scotti> I guess I should just install the image I am downloading right now and get into it.....
[05:57] <Krhis> tuxtheslacker, nope.
[05:57] <chris_> :| nothing
[05:57] <Consty> Is it safe to run a windows based bios update utility using wine? :p
[05:57] <dicesquirre1> Question... has anyone gotten E17 working in Dapper? If so, how?
[05:57] <baconbacon> hahaha NO
[05:57] <Krhis> chris_, there shoud have been somthing (anything?) printed in the terminal. Not just a box with an error.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Consty,  thats scary in many ways
[05:57] <Scotti> Geoffrey2: like MYOB, Outlook, Etc???
[05:58] <agcook> this is andres... registered name agcook
[05:58] <Graig> can nautilus format DVD+rw disks?, which is better, gnome baker or graveman?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  i found a script that downloaded/compiled E17 from CVS (i think) it worked then.. a little. :P
[05:58] <Consty> Dr_Willis: It is.. but I'm not going to reinstall windows just do it :P
[05:58] <chris_> well its [] 
[05:58] <chris_> not next line yet
[05:58] <Healot> Graig: back to the backend >> cdrecord
[05:58] <Krhis> Graig, I personally use K3B. Very powerful.
[05:58] <Scotti> Geoffrey2: Is there also a backup utility that will keep a customers file safe by backing up to a USB attached HDD ?
[05:58] <Krhis> chris_, then it looks like it's runing in the background.
[05:58] <baconbacon> Consty: dont try to update bios from a VM, too :S
[05:58] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: I used that same script. And I suppose it worked "a little" also. But I need "totally," otherwise I can't use the danged WM, heh.
[05:59] <Krhis> chris_, pull up gnome monitor. Can you kill it?
[05:59] <[Ex0r] > I am trying to get photoshop installed because i've gotten so used to it. Would take me a long time to relearn gimp
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  the script worked great.. it was E that had the issues.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  i dident find it that impressive really.
[05:59] <Krhis> [Ex0r] , ever hear of VMWare?
[05:59] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: Could you direct me to this script, then?
[05:59] <Scotti> I just need something that will require minimal support...
[05:59] <Scotti> brb
[06:00] <baconbacon> Scotti: there are many many ways to do this
[06:00] <[Ex0r] > yeah, vmware sucks when trying to emulate only an os, you should try it with an os and an app
[06:00] <krazykit> [Ex0r] : i think the last photoshop to work well with wine as 7
[06:00] <chris_> how Krhis?
[06:00] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: There's several out there, and perhaps I just wasn't using the best one.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  it was on the E17 site  last i looked. that was 2 mo. ago.
[06:00] <[Ex0r] > if not photoshop, at LEAST dreamweaver mx
[06:00] <Dial_tone> I hate not being able to edit id3 info in rhythmbox
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> !e17
[06:00] <ubotu> The next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or Install HOWTO at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto
[06:00] <dicesquirre1> Dr_WIllis, awesome. I'll see if that'll do.
[06:00] <krazykit> yay e17!
[06:01] <dicesquirre1> Hmm... that howto looks like it's for Breezy, and not Dapper
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> behold the power of the wiki!> :P
[06:01] <dicesquirre1> Does that matter?
[06:01] <[Ex0r] > enlightenment?
[06:01] <skavenge> Dial_tone; there are some fairly good stand alone id3 tag editors for linux you might try
[06:01] <cat> !info waimea
[06:01] <ubotu> waimea: (A highly customizable window manager based on blackbox), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-7 (dapper), Packaged size: 179 kB, Installed size: 576 kB
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  i doubt it.
[06:01] <sjoerd_> xmms doesn't run mp3 files?
[06:01] <cat> how can i changed to dapper?
[06:01] <[Ex0r] > not by default
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[06:01] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:02] <krazykit> ubotu: tell cat about updgrade
[06:02] <skavenge> sjoerd; once mp3 capability is installed on the machine it runs them fine
[06:02] <baconbacon> ubotu: tell cat about upgrade
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  easy_e17.sh  was the script i used :P
[06:02] <[Ex0r] > damnit, macromedia studio doesn't even work
[06:02] <tuxtheslacker> gar, why does this read as read only, but it says amarok should be able to use it?!
[06:03] <Geoffrey2> Scotti, in place of Microsoft Office, you can use OpenOffice.org....I just recently started using Ubuntu after many years of Windows, and found I had no problem at all transitioning over from Office to OpenOffice
[06:03] <nmsa> how can I know the module I have to load for my sound to work ?
[06:03] <Dial_tone> skavenge: ta
[06:03] <rjian> I need help?? how can i edit the samba.conf its say read only??
[06:03] <Dial_tone> edit as root
[06:03] <sjoerd_> sky|off will i need a reboot?
[06:03] <GO> how can i watch videos
[06:03] <GO> on ubuntu
[06:04] <jon_> Can someone tell me what a certain error means, and how to fix it?
[06:04] <baconbacon> ubotu tell rjian about sudo
[06:04] <rjian> how can i login as root?
[06:04] <tuxtheslacker> garumph :-(
[06:04] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: Hmm, I don't hold out much hope then. Blast... all I really want is a really nice replacement for Metacity. I'm sick and tired of how slow and bloated it is. Not to mention those ugly black rectangles :/
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  try 'sawfish' then.
[06:04] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: can I just apt-get that?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  and i TOTALLY agree on the rectangles.
[06:04] <Krhis> chris_, can you find gnome monitor?
[06:04] <aaronm23> can anyone help me get my echo indigo dj sound card working?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> but the gnome deva seem to argue more on 'where should the setting be to turn them off/on' instead of making it easy
[06:05] <Dial_tone> I haven't been here long but 90% of the questions asked are answered here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:05] <rjian> this is my first time to know about root can u tell me how to login?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  yea. ya could just isntall sawfish, and run the gnome panel. :P
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> !root
[06:05] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:05] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: I'll give that a whirl. Thanks!
[06:05] <Scotti> baconbacon: is there a util I can use to remote desktop over the net to give support??
[06:06] <scud_> is it easy to setup xen in ubuntu?
[06:06] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: Oh, and is there anywhere in the Conf-editor where I -can- turn off the black rectangles?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Scotti,  VNC or its varients
[06:06] <baconbacon> terminal server client is installed default
[06:06] <baconbacon> its remote desktop compatible
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  not that i have EVER seen
[06:06] <Scotti> kewl, is tehre a vnc version that I can program to CALL a connection from me?
[06:06] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: Arghh... I know, I looked for about an hour once. Heh.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  welcome to the GNOME (we are the boss of you!) world. :P
[06:07] <Scotti> baconbacon: isnt terminal server a M$ thing?
[06:07] <croesus> okay, now don't take this the wrong way, but I'm struggling here as to why I might want to keep ubuntu....in the fedora system it seemed like I had  much more control over what went on in the os..while here it seems like the distro is suffering from a lack of "easy" administrative tools..  Am I missing something here? granted apt is cool and all and yes, rpm sucks...but it's the administrative apps that are killing me here...
[06:07] <sjoerd_> My fonts in ubuntu look really ugly, I am using a TFT screen. What coult be causing this?
[06:07] <aaronm23> can anyone help me get my echo indigo dj sound card working?
[06:07] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis: Maybe you could answer one more thing that I've wondered about recently? What's the implication of the "LTS" moniker? What service are we actually talking about here? Canonical phone support, or what?
[06:07] <baconbacon> Scotti: terminal server client does Microsoft terminal server style (windows remote desktop) and VNC style
[06:07] <NickGarvey> !tell aaronm23 about sound
[06:08] <Unintentional> hey, I'm trying to send a series of commands through telnet.  I figure I can just write the commands in a seperate doc and redirect stdin, but I want to include the contents of a log file in the script.  anyone know how I could do that?
[06:08] <crimsun> aaronm23: I had a factoid sent to you regarding 'alsa-source'. Follow those directions.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> dicesquirre1,  no clue there.. Im my own tech support. :P
[06:08] <linuxuser> whats a good work around for a digital camera thats not recognized in linux?
[06:08] <bobstro> croesus:  as in which tools? what are you trying to do that you're not finding?
[06:08] <baconbacon> Scotti: and if you want to enable incoming VNC, go to preferences -> remote desktop or something like that
[06:08] <aaronm23> crimsun: i followed it, and got the module loaded but still no luck
[06:09] <Scotti> baconbacon: ok, so is the transition hard from Windows to UBUNTU? I mean how long will it take before I can impliment it with my customers?
[06:09] <crimsun> aaronm23: did you upload the firmware?
[06:09] <eFoX> i put the wrong grub image up, and when i try to change it..it doesnt work
[06:09] <Krhis> linuxuser, personally I'd return it for my money back.
[06:09] <dicesquirre1> Dr_Willis, I've found that LTS doesn't really mean anything outside of the norm. The standard forum help, IRC help, and wiki help that every other distro I've ever used gets. Now, if Canonical actually had free phone support, that would be something...
[06:09] <crimsun> aaronm23: many Echo cards require firmware to function.
[06:09] <Dial_tone> linuxuser: a card reader :)
[06:09] <eFoX> anyone know how to change the grub imaage ?
[06:09] <aaronm23> crimsun: how do i do that?
[06:09] <linuxuser> krhis, i like it
[06:09] <linuxuser> card reader, hmmm
[06:09] <linuxuser> good idea
[06:09] <crimsun> aaronm23: there may be directions on alsa.opensrc.org
[06:09] <Krhis> But it dosn't work? ^^
[06:10] <croesus> bobstro: thanks for the reply...I want a replacemnt for the config-security feature of fedora as well as the services app...the sysVinit on ubuntu locks open and will not shut down gently :(
[06:10] <Scotti> baconbacon: what about USB usability? if I plug in a USB dev, will it come up like it does in Windows?
[06:10] <Healot> Scotti, it will, since HAL is around to do the dirty job for you
[06:10] <Scotti> HAL ?
[06:10] <baconbacon> Scotti: you got to try it to tell really, it depends on what features and software customers need that are Windows-only, and for the USB stuff most usb keys / mp3 player works, but not so sure about cameras
[06:11] <linuxuser> peripheral support sucks in linux, which is no fault of the developers i know
[06:11] <NickGarvey> when you ignore someone in irc, do they still see your messages?
[06:11] <Scotti> hmmm ok
[06:11] <Healot> HAL is your hotplug/pnp best friend
[06:11] <codecaine> when I try to play a movie in mplayer I get couldn't open the X11 display and the movies look weird anybody know hot to fix that?
[06:11] <bobstro> croesus:  ok, don't use fedora. what does config-security do for you?
[06:11] <croesus> bobstro: ...hang on..
[06:11] <Healot> codecaine: what's you graphics card?
[06:11] <codecaine> nvidia
[06:12] <Healot> codecaine: 3D acceleration enabled?
[06:12] <codecaine> yes
[06:12] <Healot> wait a sec
[06:12] <Healot> !nvidia
[06:12] <ubotu> [nvidia]  a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:12] <rjian> y is this when i try to edit the smb.conf it says bash: /etc/samba/smb.conf: Permission denied
[06:12] <rjian> ?
[06:12] <tuxtheslacker> gar!
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> rjian,  you need root permission, so use 'sudo'
[06:12] <NickGarvey> rjian: put sudo in front
[06:12] <Scotti> Can I install programs like Corel Draw 12 in Linux? how does it work out as a design station? I mean I know MAC OSX is BSD based asnd is great, but what about normal linux with graphics programs from windows?
[06:12] <tuxtheslacker>  can someone help me make the auto mounter mount my ipod as read/write, and not read only?
[06:13] <Pelo> evening folks
[06:13] <croesus> bobstro: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/redhat-config-securitylevel.html
[06:13] <odat> hi everyone
[06:13] <Healot> codecaine: change the output device... change it to OpenGL output for a while
[06:13] <GO> ok so it said permission denied and i am the only user and the admin, why?
[06:13] <odat> i forget how to make a symlink  can anyone give me an example to refresh my memory
[06:13] <tuxtheslacker> [17182700.688000]  HFS+-fs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.... that's what happens when it auto mounts.. and I need it to write as well.
[06:13] <bobstro> croesus:  the firestarter firewall app seems similar at quick glance
[06:13] <codecaine> how do I do that?
[06:13] <rjian> still not working it says sudo: /etc/samba/smb.conf: command not found
[06:13] <rjian> .. wat will i do??
[06:13] <Healot> !ati
[06:13] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[06:13] <Dial_tone> ln -s /directory symlink
[06:13] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have any ideas?
[06:14] <Pelo> I need to read a "second" hdd it's my NTFS drive for my xp, I would like to access it from ubuntu ( which is on a seperate hdd altogether)
[06:14] <garryfre> Do sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:14] <Healot> Configure your mplayer
[06:14] <bobstro> croesus:  or you could just install lokkit and gnome-lokkit. looks like the same thing.
[06:14] <croesus> bobstro: yeah I've been using that,..
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  you are getting beter at asking the questions at least. :P sorry i dont have an ipod.. or any other info to help. you may want to check the ubuntu wiki/forums however.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !ipod
[06:14] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[06:14] <cprog> anybody know if its possible to change any settings so that i can VNC into a box running XGL without VNC trying to startup XGL?
[06:14] <linuxuser> wonders how a beer would taste right about now
[06:14] <ic56> Pelo: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[06:14] <ic56> Pelo: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[06:15] <rjian> dos anyone knows wat will i do if it says sudo: /etc/samba/smb.conf: command not found
[06:15] <rjian> ?
[06:15] <bobstro> croesus:  so what is firestarter *not* doing that you need?
[06:15] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> cprog,  you can set vnc to use its own 'x startup' script. if you ssh in and use 'vncserver' - to make it load what you want.
[06:15] <croesus> bobstro:  and here is the services app I've been so addicted to...http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/config-tools/redhat-config-services.html
[06:15] <baconbacon> rjian: sudo gedit /etc/...
[06:15] <cprog> dr_willis, how so?
[06:15] <garryfre> rjian: Do this command sudo /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:15] <odat> Dial_tone, that doesn't look right
[06:15] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how to change a force option in the autowriter?
[06:15] <cprog> /etc/vnc.conf?
[06:15] <tuxtheslacker> automounter*
[06:15] <garryfre> rjian: er I mean  Do this command sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:15] <Boelcke> Can anyone suggest how to create a new "print style" in KAddressBook? I'm trying to replace my wife's PalmDesktop functionality to keep her positive about our recent switch to linux as a primary desktop!  ;)
[06:15] <mister_roboto> cprog: you mean that you want VNC to not show the GUI?
[06:15] <pc22> how do i restore grub? all i have is dapper installer and livecd of hoary?
[06:15] <rjian> ah ok thnx
[06:15] <croesus> bobstro: I'd like to be able to click on a service and enable it
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> cprog,  vncserver  normally reads the users .vnc/xstartup (check the vncserver script/binary for some neat info)
[06:16] <agcook> crimsun: is the build command line you gave creating a new kernel for me to install?
[06:16] <cprog> dr_willis, thanks, ill try that
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cprog,  not im not sure about xgl however.. you could just have vnc start a simple window managher.
[06:16] <odat> Dial_tone, can you give me a full example
[06:16] <Pelo> ic56,  thanks , I made a paste of your instructions, and I will try them , thanks you very much
[06:16] <GO> how can i "get permission" to work in my terminal, i am the only admin
[06:16] <ic56> Pelo: yw!
[06:16] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, woudl you have any idea how to deal with changing what the auto mounter does?
[06:16] <[NP] Tangent> quick question: Printscrn will take a screenshot in Ubuntu, right?
[06:16] <bobstro> croesus:  and you checked out System->Serivces menu?
[06:16] <crimsun> agcook: no, it installs build dependencies and downloads the source for the kernel.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> GO,  you are being a littel vague.
[06:16] <bill_> Anyone been able to install Mac OS X 10 Ubuntu?
[06:16] <NickGarvey> go: sudo -i
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  not really. i tend to mount my stuff manually for total controll.
[06:17] <NickGarvey> bill_: what? that doesn't make any sense at all heh
[06:17] <crimsun> agcook: you need to edit the source as you wish, then change debian/config/*
[06:17] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, this won't let me mount manually :-/.
[06:17] <jon_> How do I uninstall java?
[06:17] <bill_> Why?
[06:17] <crimsun> agcook: namely, you probably want to remove the configs for the $arches you don't want to compile
[06:17] <agcook> crimsun: ah... so then I should be able to compile using the line I used before?
[06:17] <agcook> crimsun: oic
[06:17] <crimsun> agcook: no, you need to install fakeroot and devscripts in addition
[06:17] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, can you give me instructions on how to get this thing to mount manually so that I can force it to mount as write?
[06:17] <garryfre> I think Bill, means he wants to do vmware OS 10
[06:18] <crimsun> agcook: further, you need the ABI files from the previous release
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  im not sure you want to be using the HFS+ stuff. (i dont have an ipod so cant tell ya much more)
[06:18] <farous> is there a prob with the repos i get the message connection time out too often nowdays?
[06:18] <linuxuser> wonders how a beer at a strip bar would taste tonight
[06:18] <bill_> Yes!
[06:18] <bill_> How?
[06:18] <GO> one example of a response to the command is (bash: /etc/samba/smb.conf: Permission denied)
[06:18] <cprog> mister_roboto, i want to VNC into a box with a GUI, but while running XGL, it only shows the grey screen and hangs
[06:18] <garryfre> !vmware
[06:18] <croesus> bobstro: the system-administration-services doesn't seem -nearly- as detailed...
[06:18] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> tuxtheslacker,  make a fstab file entry that mounts it whever ya want, and check tehman page for mount as to what 'option' to give it for 'force' the rw I guess.
[06:18] <tuxtheslacker> haha! anyone know how to make my ipod a fat32?
[06:18] <bobstro> croesus:  well there are others. but how much more detailed do you need?
[06:18] <linuxuser> ipeed
[06:19] <tuxtheslacker> yeah, Dr_Willis I tried that, and it tells me the special device can't be found.
[06:19] <tuxtheslacker> Dr_Willis, /dev/ipod  /mnt/ipod  hfsplus  async,nodev,nosuid,user,rw,noauto 0 0
[06:19] <bobstro> croesus:  are you wanting to set multiple runlevels or what?
[06:19] <pc22> how do i restore grub? all i have is dapper installer and livecd of hoary?
[06:19] <linuxuser> ms' s alternative to the ipod will be the ipeed
[06:19] <jon_> How do I uninstall java?
[06:19] <rjian> how can i restart samba?
[06:19] <Dial_tone> odat: I could but I won't.....give a man a fish.....
[06:19] <croesus> I want to go in and turn on or off the mysql daemon, the fltpd,apache, etc...and be able to click a button and stop all access through port 80 to the outside world.....
[06:20] <farous> !!java
[06:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[06:20] <farous> !java
[06:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[06:20] <snoops> linuxboy.. that's a stunning bit of originality you got going *rolls eyes*
[06:20] <witsend> Hi.  Something mysterious has happened that is causing the colors in totem and xine to be completely wrong.  It has happened on 3 of my computers now.  Any clues?
[06:20] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: should that be /media/ipod rather than /mnt/ipod on an Ubuntu box?!
[06:20] <snoops> linuxuser* rather
[06:20] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I made a file /mnt/ipod instead of /media.
[06:20] <bobstro> croesus:  well, lokkit for gnome probably gives you the same firewall interface you had before.
[06:21] <GO> how do i take care of that "permission" issue
[06:21] <linuxuser> tough crowd tonight
[06:21] <NickGarvey> linuxuser: heh
[06:21] <croesus> bobstro: I like the apt system for ubuntu...I love all the packages out there...it's just a few legacy apps that are holding me back form being able to be completely productive with it...
[06:21] <baconbacon> GO ... what specific permission
[06:21] <farous> witsend: i am having troubles with totem here too keep craching
[06:21] <garryfre> I have heard that the kernel has a built in firewall.
[06:21] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: what are your reasons for preferring /mnt/ipod over /media?
[06:21] <GO> bash: /etc/samba/smb.conf: Permission denied
[06:21] <bobstro> croesus:  and the Services panel DOES start and stop what services are installed.
[06:21] <eFoX> when i try to create a symbolic link, it says the file exists
[06:21] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I just generally do...
[06:21] <baconbacon> of course you could run everything as root (just kidding, dont do this!!)
[06:21] <croesus> bobstro: I'll try lokkit...thnaks for hte advice.
[06:22] <rjian> anyone knows how to restart the samba??
[06:22] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I'm more used to it, and it shouldn't be relevant where it mounts....
[06:22] <eFoX> how can i change that ?
[06:22] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: what about Places> Computer ?
[06:22] <bobstro> croesus:  you want to BLOCK access to port 80 to outside, or block inbound on port 80?
[06:22] <baconbacon> rjian: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:22] <rjian> ah ok thnx
[06:22] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, what about it?
[06:22] <baconbacon> or one of those files in /etc/init.d thats looks like samba
[06:22] <bobstro> croesus:  i'm checking for a more option-ful services panel for ya
[06:23] <croesus> bobstro: if needed...both ;)
[06:23] <harry> does banshee also work on mobile phones when tansfering audio musics like mp3??
[06:23] <rjian> y is windows when browsing asking for password? do i have to add user so that they can access?
[06:23] <bobstro> croesus:  i do the symlinks for init scripts manually out of habit, so don't know the gui tools.
[06:24] <GO> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[06:24] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: Places> Computer is setup to display the (presumably removable) devices under /media.  When you put something under /mnt , did you sacrificie access to it under Places>Media (though, of course you could still get to it by digging deeper) or did you remap Places>computer to /mnt ?
[06:24] <croesus> bobstro: thanks
[06:24] <KrisWood> Weee I'm signed on from my main PC, now fully operational with dapper :) Now to get all my apps installed / working
[06:24] <croesus> bobstro: lokkit available via apt?
[06:24] <linuxuser> not to be out done by ms, apple ceo steve jobs announced that the ipod would be renamed the ipooped
[06:24] <GO> i dont no what else to say about my problem
[06:24] <KrisWood> has anyone here tried getting 3dsmax and/or photoshop working on ubuntu?
[06:24] <harry> does banshee also work on mobile phones when tansfering audio musics like mp3??
[06:24] <tuxtheslacker> ic56, I don't use that part a :-D and part b, it won't mount.
[06:24] <croesus> bobstro: synaptics doesn't seem to find it
[06:24] <bobstro> croesus:  yes, have you tried synaptic (System->Administration)?
[06:25] <harry> KrisWood: try working with gimp from now
[06:25] <bobstro> croesus:  oh, you want other sources enabled.
[06:25] <krie> hi
[06:25] <KrisWood> no, gimp won't do at all
[06:25] <KrisWood> :p
[06:25] <harry> KrisWood: you'll get used to it.
[06:25] <mnishizawa> question on dapper upgrade w/ wireless nic
[06:25] <KrisWood> everyone says that
[06:25] <ic56> tuxtheslacker: ah! ok, thanks.
[06:25] <harry> does banshee also work on mobile phones when tansfering audio musics like mp3??
[06:25] <krie> i'm new user
[06:25] <rjian> can anyone help me.. because windows browse to ubuntu reuqest a password?? how can they access ubuntu??
[06:25] <KrisWood> I'm not gonna throw out my photoshop CS cd just because it's difficult to get working properly on linux
[06:25] <bobstro> croesus:  try Synaptic->Settings->Repositories and enable the missing
[06:25] <KrisWood> I hear it works well with Crossover Office
[06:26] <GO> it might help if someone went one on one with me i am more noob than ne1s probably ever seen
[06:26] <croesus> bobstro: found it...
[06:26] <bobstro> rjian:  do you have samba running?
[06:26] <harry> KrisWood: i admit photoshop is really that gud. i wud also choose the same thing. but somehow i'm tyring hard with gimp
[06:26] <rjian> yup already running
[06:26] <harry> Kriswood: do you have wine??
[06:26] <rjian> but windows browse and a password appear...
[06:26] <bobstro> rjian:  well, they're probably accessing shares then, just like a windows box
[06:27] <bobstro> rjian:  yes, if not same workgroup/domain and you browse to it, that will happen.
[06:27] <harry> KrisWood: do you have wine?? or you dont know wine yet??
[06:27] <bobstro> rjian:  you can set up samba just like a windows box.
[06:27] <rjian> how can i do like that?
[06:27] <mnishizawa> I just upgraded a machine to dapper and my wireless card has stopped getting an ip from the router... I get signal from the router, my network info has not changed, but no ip address
[06:28] <bobstro> rjian:  check out the samba howtos. there's probably one for ubuntu somewhere.
[06:28] <croesus> mnishizawa: reboot the router
[06:28] <mnishizawa> croesus: is that it?
[06:29] <croesus> mnishizawa: it worked for mine when I had the same problem
[06:29] <mnishizawa> k
[06:29] <harry> KrisWood: i think wine can help to install photoshop CS on linux
[06:29] <eFoX> could someone help me get a splash image to appear on my grub :(
[06:29] <rjian> how can i add user on samba?
[06:29] <b0rg> hi.
[06:29] <croesus> harry: wine does an ok job, but crossover office makes it work quite well...
[06:30] <harry> croesus: whats crossover office??
[06:30] <croesus> harry standby...it's commercial
[06:30] <linuxuser> xandros has crossover office
[06:30] <linuxuser> ive used it
[06:30] <linuxuser> nice
[06:30] <mister_roboto> mnishizawa: i had the exact same problem. i never could get it to work until i reinstalled dapper from scratch. it was like the updated dapper was using some old info from breezy or something. never did figure out how to get the upgrade working. the upgrade didn't work but booting from the live cd worked fine.  <shrug>
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> rjian,  like smbpasswd -a username    - So they can access their  samba/home share?
[06:31] <harry> croesus: can you explain it further. does it work like wine, but its much better ??
[06:31] <b0rg> well i have got ubuntu installed. runs great iam sure i will have ons of noob questions ;)
[06:31] <croesus> harry http://www.codeweavers.com/   wine on steroids
[06:31] <alpa> can anyone please help me to make my repository into universal!
[06:31] <sjoerd_> Anyone knows a password manager / safe that works for both Windows XP and Ubuntu?
[06:32] <croesus> linuxuser: yes, xandros (the "full version") has crossover
[06:32] <NickGarvey> sjoerd_: brain?
[06:32] <NickGarvey> ;)
[06:32] <linuxuser> sjoerd: you could set up a bios boot password i would think
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> sjoerd,  just use the password 'password' that way you never forget it. :P
[06:32] <harry> croesus: does crossover office helps better than wine when intalling windows application??
[06:33] <croesus> harry pretty much
[06:33] <sjoerd_> linuxuser I'm not talking about the bios boot password
[06:33] <sjoerd_> I'm talking about a program to store passwords
[06:33] <bobstro> ok, anybody know of a more functional runlevel editor for croesus?
[06:33] <nathanael> I have no sound whenever I play flash files in Firefox (Dapper Drake)
[06:33] <nathanael> How do I enable sound for FLash in firefox?
[06:34] <linuxuser> two distinct operating systems , one program to manage both passwords, i doubt it
[06:34] <sjoerd_> you don't want to :)
[06:34] <croesus> harry:  I used it to install my 6 yr old daughter's lil' windows games on her distro of ubuntu and they all work fine..
[06:34] <bobstro> croesus:  you can start/stop services with what's there, but i'm not finding anything prettier.
[06:34] <montezuma> could anyone help me to install the plugin to be able to play mpgs?
[06:34] <bobstro> sjoerd:  you mean a password safe type program?
[06:34] <sjoerd_> linuxuser: It doesn't have to be one program, just the same database.
[06:34] <croesus> bobstro thanks for all your help :)
[06:34] <francf> nathanael, there is an excelent guide in the forums, let me search and give you the link
[06:34] <sjoerd_> bobstro: Yes, that is what I was asking about
[06:34] <bobstro> croesus:  it can be done, just interface looks a little different
[06:34] <nathanael> thanks
[06:34] <nathanael> I tried linking the .so files - didn't work
[06:35] <croesus> bobstro yep...I just don't have the time to write one myself at the moment but I might have to...
[06:35] <harry> croesus: does crossover helps me install drivers for my hardwares using a CD's. example for my graphic cards? or i can install my drivers without the help of wine or crossover by just the CD's
[06:35] <sjoerd_> ok there is no safe available as you know?
[06:35] <bobstro> croesus:  i honestly don't understand what it is that's missing from what's there that you need, unless you want to edit MULTIPLE runlevels?
[06:36] <bobstro> sjoerd:  i'm not aware of one, but checking the gnu
[06:36] <KrisWood> Damn this is the flashiest linux I've seen yet :)
[06:36] <KrisWood> ok, up next is getting drivers for all my hardware...
[06:36] <Scotti> sjoerd_: errr........ can i msg you and ask a few questions? I just cant hack the speed of this chat, I havent got my glasses right now :(
[06:36] <KrisWood> Anyone here use a wacom tablet with ubuntu?
[06:36] <nathanael> Does everyone here with Dapper have sound in Firefox when viewing Flash?
[06:36] <sjoerd_> Scotti: sure.
[06:36] <croesus> bobstro, actually using the sysVinit on ubuntu you -can- edit multiple runlevels...it's just screwed up a bit in the way it come accross...perhaps it's intended for Kubuntu instead?
[06:37] <linuxuser> nathanael: dunno, never checked
[06:37] <croesus> nathanael: yes
[06:37] <nomad111> im so screwed ubuntu setup wont finish on my laptop it is screwed my mbr and i cant boot anything im using my "KUBUNTU" live cd at the moment
[06:37] <linuxuser> nathanael: i do know that real player works ok
[06:37] <nathanael> croesus: And no issues getting it to work?
[06:37] <bobstro> croesus:   if it works, does it matter?
[06:37] <nomad111> it just ceases at 'Running 22gnome_panel_data'
[06:37] <nomad111> in the setup
[06:37] <eFoX> can i copy an image to the "splash.xpm.gz" ? or do i have to do something special ?
[06:38] <rightcoast> nathanael, http://roel.wordpress.com/2005/10/19/fix-sound-for-flash-on-ubuntu/
[06:38] <morphix> where are all the man pages kept?
[06:38] <francf> nathanael, the problem is while Flash play a sound, take over the sound card, no matter if you are using a ESD daemon.
[06:38] <nathanael> thanks
[06:38] <croesus> bobstro works, just once invoked it won't close...unless you ps aux and kill all the proc
[06:38] <francf> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&page=3
[06:38] <francf> use this link
[06:38] <NickGarvey> morphix: /usr/share/doc
[06:38] <nathanael> thanks
[06:38] <rightcoast> ignore the question marks btw
[06:38] <NickGarvey> morphix: has a lot of stuff
[06:38] <rightcoast> in that code
[06:38] <nomad111> cant any1 help me
[06:38] <croesus> nathanael: I ddin't have any problems with it
[06:38] <morphix> NickGarvey: what about /usr/share/man ?
[06:38] <KrisWood> hmmm My windows formatted hard drives are showing up in the file browser but when I click them it says I cannot mount them
[06:38] <croesus> nathanael: youtube city
[06:38] <NickGarvey> morphix: there too ;)
[06:39] <bobstro> croesus:  and you really need to edit those often enough to make/break choice of distribution?
[06:39] <linuxuser> kriswood: formated in ntfs?
[06:39] <morphix> NickGarvey: well hopefully thats all deleted then :)
[06:39] <NickGarvey> morphix: haha  no bloat for you?
[06:39] <linuxuser> nomad111: easyubuntu
[06:39] <nomad111> wats that
[06:39] <KrisWood> linuxuser: one is, another is fat32
[06:39] <morphix> NickGarvey: i am creating a live cd/dvd
[06:39] <croesus> bobstro: I'm a freak, I'll admit it...but it's not so much editting the runlevel as stopping and starting the processes... that I use it for...
[06:40] <NickGarvey> morphix: oh cool
[06:40] <ic56> KrisWood: point your browser to http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[06:40] <ic56> KrisWood: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[06:40] <KrisWood> hmmm, I also have an unformatted hard drive that isn't showing up at all
[06:40] <linuxuser> kriswood: is this a livecd your running and drive located inside the pc?
[06:40] <KrisWood> Thanks ic56
[06:40] <bobstro> croesus:  use the init scripts directly then (sudo /etc/init.d/<whatever> start|stop works for me
[06:40] <KrisWood> linuxuser: no, this is a full install
[06:40] <ic56> KrisWood: yw!
[06:40] <nomad111> linuxuser: its ceasing at this step in the setup "Running 22gnome_panel_data"
[06:40] <scud> has anyone attempted to install xen on their ubuntu install?
[06:41] <nomad111> i got intel chipset 945gm
[06:41] <bobstro> croesus:  i installed "bum" and it will let you start/stop interactively.
[06:41] <PwcrLinux> Kris: did you dumped the windows out?
[06:41] <bobstro> croesus:  if you insist on a gui :)
[06:41] <harry> croesus: which one is better. the Crossover office or the Cedega. if just used for installing games??
[06:41] <morphix> is there a tool in ubuntu dapper which shows the sizes of all installed apps? so i can see what i really dont need.
[06:42] <bobstro> croesus:  but still limited to current runlevel
[06:42] <garryfre> So many people ask, they should put a link to ic56's awesome script in one of the pages above.
[06:42] <KrisWood> PwcrLinux: yeah, I moved all my important files to two of the drives and reformatted my C drive as my root filesystem :)
[06:42] <Scotti> sjoerd_ ?
[06:42] <bobstro> garryfre:  what script is that?
[06:42] <eFoX> i put an image for my grub..but i put the wrong one, now i cant change it...could someone help me ?
[06:42] <rjian> how can i disable the password when windows login to ubuntu?
[06:43] <PwcrLinux> Kris: ah, that's good, but the NFTS cannot be open in your linux to view it....
[06:43] <garryfre> bobstro He wrote a nice script to allow folks to set up access to windows drives under places.
[06:43] <nathanael> Wow -that was an awesome-ly simple solution
[06:43] <nathanael> fantastic
[06:43] <mepis1> no kuickshow in mepis?
[06:43] <linuxuser> rjian: system, administration, windows login,
[06:43] <bobstro> garryfre:  doesn't Places->Network Places do that?
[06:43] <krazykit> mepis1: ask #mepis
[06:44] <KrisWood> how do I format and mount a hard drive that's not yet partitioned at all?
[06:44] <wulax> eFoX: use a liveCD?
[06:44] <ic56> garryfre: that link is a beta.  The last officially published version is on the wiki.  Also, I'm not the original author -- just the latest author to make improvements to the script.  This version will become official soon, hopefully.
[06:44] <nathanael> format (drive)
[06:44] <rjian> theres no windows login ??
[06:44] <b0rg> is ther spyware/adware risk with linux if so whats a good program to handle this? (sorry for noob questions)
[06:44] <Scotti> Firstly, I have a project on at the moment where I need to impliment a file server to hold large graphics files as well as use Acronis True Image to image the fresh install of each workstation on the network. Can I do all of this in Linux instead of Windows, and if so how hard is it to set up?
[06:44] <mepis1> krazykit: same base system
[06:44] <Scotti> sjoerd_
[06:44] <sjoerd_> yes Scotti
[06:44] <sparkleytone> ? virus
[06:44] <KrisWood> b0rg: very little risk
[06:45] <bobstro> rjian:  are your linux and windows systems in same workgroup (samba)?
[06:45] <Scotti> sjoerd_ I cant MSG, i am not registered :(
[06:45] <krazykit> mepis1: not really.  they install different things by default.
[06:45] <garryfre> bobstro Might, I dunno.  ic56 says there is a stable version of it on the wiki already
[06:45] <sjoerd_> as far as I know  you don't have to be registered
[06:45] <b0rg> awsome ;)
[06:45] <Scotti> sjoerd_ : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[06:45] <rjian> yup this is a workgroup i just want to disable the password when windows browse my computer??
[06:45] <mepis1> krazykit: not in synaptic either
[06:45] <PwcrLinux> Kris: I recommend get new hard drive, and pop the install linux CD and then look for "Format and install", it's much easier than partations..
[06:45] <nathanael> Kriswood: Did you already try the disk utility in Administration?
[06:45] <sjoerd_> just type /query sjoerd_ hi
[06:45] <Cornellius> Why can I encode in every formats imaginable except mp3 ?
[06:45] <croesus> bostro thanks again
[06:46] <Cornellius> I'm using SoundConverter atm.
[06:46] <bobstro> croesus:  good luck with it!
[06:46] <croesus> bobstro thanks again
[06:46] <croesus> :)
[06:46] <Scotti> I did....
[06:46] <croesus> sorry
[06:46] <krazykit> mepis1: then it's not in the repos.  either look for a deb or compile it yourself.
[06:46] <croesus> harry: I've not tried cdega
[06:46] <garryfre> They have a trial of Cedega you can try.
[06:47] <bobstro> rjian:  you can save the password in windows
[06:47] <croesus> harry: but I can tell you that crossover runs all the freddi the fish and putt-putt games easily ;)
[06:47] <ic56> bobstro, garryfre: the official version: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions  and the latest version (soon to be official): http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[06:47] <KrisWood> ic56: This file you sent me to, it says the NTFS thing is experimental, how reliable is it?
[06:47] <rjian> hmmm i didnt set yet anypassword??
[06:47] <ic56> KrisWood: reading NTFS works fine.  Writing is unsafe.  I recommend answering NO to writing NTFS
[06:47] <KrisWood> ok
[06:48] <Cornellius> Mepis is based on Debian or what ?
[06:48] <rjian> do i have to adduser so that they can access ubuntu??
[06:48] <bobstro> rjian:  did you do System->Administration->Shared Folders?
[06:48] <KrisWood> Cool thanks :) now how do I partition an unpartitioned drive?
[06:48] <rjian> yup
[06:49] <bobstro> rjian:  well, samba user password is different than regular user. i don't use samba on ubuntu, so am used to doing it manually.
[06:49] <Cornellius> Forget it, though I had already installed gstreamer-lame
[06:49] <Cornellius> Doing it
[06:49] <ic56> KrisWood: GUI or CLI answer?
[06:49] <KrisWood> either
[06:49] <KrisWood> whichever is more reliable
[06:49] <rjian> so can u help me how to disable the password thing??
[06:49] <KrisWood> I'm not a linux noob but it's been ages since I've used the linux fdisk
[06:49] <KrisWood> (haven't used it since redhat 7)
[06:50] <PwcrLinux> Kris: or you can copy file from the NTFS drive (your text or doc files, but don't copy any EXE, COM and etc..) to your HOME or on your desktop screen..
[06:50] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: gparted works for me
[06:50] <ScottiNailon> there. I am registered...
[06:50] <bobstro> KrisWood:  cfdisk is decent curses version
[06:51] <KrisWood> NickGarvey: I'm not seeing that on apt-get, do I need the extra repositories to get it?
[06:51] <rjian> bobstro: so can u help me how to disable the password thing??
[06:51] <KrisWood> which brings up the question of where can I find a list of extra repositories? I know you guys recommend against using the ubuntu guide
[06:51] <ic56> KrisWood: I only know CLI.  run "fdisk /dev/hdb" (assuming hdb is the drive with the empty space. it's interactive. you want to n (add New partition), answer the prompts, then w (write partition table), then q (quit)
[06:51] <bobstro> rjian:  did you try System->Administration->Shared Folders?
[06:51] <ScottiNailon> sjoerd_
[06:51] <croesus> this channel reminds me more and more of #linpeople back in like1999 or so
[06:52] <KrisWood> yeah it's hdb I think heh
[06:52] <bobstro> croesus:  well it's irc :)
[06:52] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: lemme check min
[06:52] <KrisWood> it was drive D in windows
[06:52] <harry> croesus: how much does crossover cost??
[06:52] <rjian> bobstro: yup already done the shared.. but when i double click the ubuntu computer the password thing appear
[06:52] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: gparted - partition editor for GNOME
[06:52] <ic56> KrisWood: then mkfs /dev/hdb<partition number>
[06:52] <jorvis_> I just finished a Dapper installation ... should I follow the nVidia binary driver instructions in the wiki?  Is there a reason not to?
[06:52] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: I have all repos on though
[06:52] <croesus> bobstro: yeah, but people actually try to HELP in here ;)
[06:52] <Cornellius> What's wrong with the Ubuntu Guide ? Anyway, you can try ''EasyUbuntu'' KrisWood
[06:52] <bobstro> rjian:  did you try same username/password?
[06:52] <bobstro> croesus:  we can flame you if you like
[06:53] <croesus> harry didn't you follow the link I posted?
[06:53] <b0rg> can someone pm..... i have very very noob question and i feel silly askign in chat
[06:53] <rjian> bobstro: yup ive already done i cant login...
[06:53] <croesus> I'll pass :0
[06:53] <bobstro> b0rg:  ask away. that way others can learn too.
[06:53] <Cornellius> b0rg: No stupid questions
[06:53] <bobstro> b0rg:  nobody can see you.
[06:53] <simpkins> How come when i installed KDE That the Screen Resolution prog is gone ?
[06:53] <linuxuser> b0rg: laughing is not allowed here
[06:53] <bobstro> rjian:  sorry, but i don't use it in ubuntu. smbpasswd is the program though.
[06:54] <Cornellius> linuxboy: It is, but not for that reason :)
[06:54] <bobstro> somebody help rjian with getting access to samba share from windows!
[06:54] <rjian> ah ok thnx bobstro... can anyone help me getting access to samba share from windows??
[06:54] <linuxuser> Cornellius: thats linuxman to you :)
[06:55] <morphix> rjian: whats your issue?
[06:55] <Cornellius> linuxuser: Damn. Well, you get it :P
[06:55] <ninjayeti> I need to find the providing package for a single file.... something like urpmf in mandrake
[06:55] <Geoffrey2> Cornellius, the primary comment I hear about Ubuntu Guide is that it's very much out of date
[06:55] <Cornellius> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[06:55] <rjian> morphix: i want to login the share folder but the windows asking for password??
[06:55] <KrisWood> ok did the mkfs /dev/hdb
[06:55] <KrisWood> now how do I mount it?
[06:55] <ubo> hi
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> !ubuntuguide
[06:56] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a bad outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[06:56] <ic56> KrisWood: edit /etc/fstab and add an entry for it, immitating the existing entries
[06:56] <harry> does banshee also support transfers on mobile phones??
[06:56] <bobstro> morphix:  i think he needs to create a samba user account (smbpasswd) but i don't use samba on ubuntu so can't tell him easy way.
[06:56] <simpkins> How come when i installed KDE That the Screen Resolution prog is gone ? Where do i go to change the resolution ?
[06:56] <nachoWide> can someone help me with installing keepassx?
[06:56] <KrisWood> ic56 thanks
[06:56] <NickGarvey> KrisWood: well make sure /mnt/hdb1 is there first
[06:56] <ubo> hallo je tu slovak buntu
[06:56] <ic56> KrisWood: finally, mount like NickGarvey said.
[06:56] <linuxuser> easyubuntu pretty much handles most things
[06:56] <morphix> rjian: only way you can have a share without a password setup in samba.. u need to use the guest account and make the share a seperate public share
[06:57] <Cornellius> Well, http://ubuntuguide.org is about Dapper and all. Haven't read it entirely, but looked up-to-date
[06:57] <ubo> hallo bois
[06:57] <garryfre> simpkins: Try right-clickign the desktop area. It might be there.
[06:57] <rjian> morphix: how can i do that?
[06:57] <ic56> KrisWood: (oh yes, before mounting, create the mountpoint -- mkdir /mnt/hdb1 or whatever directory you want to mount under)
[06:57] <ScottiNailon> dam my eyes are starting to hurt :(
[06:57] <sjoerd_> ScottiNailon: do you see my messages now :| ?
[06:57] <PwcrLinux> ScottiNailon: Screen too bright? :)
[06:57] <KrisWood> ic56: yeah, I'm doing that now
[06:58] <ScottiNailon> sjoerd_: yes in here I do, but not in prv I dont :(
[06:58] <morphix> rjian: i'll go over some notes.. i cant remember it all off the top of my head
[06:58] <nachoWide> once i use package installer to install keepassx, how do i access the program.  it isn't under the applications list like when I add other programs
[06:58] <sjoerd_> ScottiNailon: Ah ok --...
[06:58] <ScottiNailon> PwcrLinux: no I havent got my glasses :( so I gotts strain the eyes....
[06:58] <croesus> Just got my dad a 20" samsung flatscreen monitor for Father's day
[06:58] <rjian> morphix: ah ok.. do u have reference??? BRB ill chat u again i have to eat lunch...
[06:59] <ScottiNailon> PwcrLinux can you msg my in prv to see if I can see ur msgs? sjoerd_ cant seem to send to me :(
[06:59] <ic56> KrisWood: Assuming the new filesystem wan't meant to be part of the traditional hierarchy, like a /var or /home replacement, I recommend /local/<something descriptive -- like "music" or "big">
[06:59] <morphix> the samba website is the best place to look.
[06:59] <KrisWood> I got an error mounting it
[06:59] <sjoerd_> ScottiNailon: Come #talkingtime
[06:59] <ScottiNailon> k
[06:59] <ScottiNailon> I ma there....
[06:59] <ic56> KrisWood: what's the error?
[06:59] <tuxd00d> Did anyone else loose wireless networking when upgrading to Dapper? My atheros (AR5001X) on my Toshiba 3500 is no longer being detected.
[07:00] <jorvis_> how can I check my current kernel version?
[07:00] <KrisWood> it says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, missing codepage or other error
[07:00] <jorvis_> uname something
[07:00] <PwcrLinux> ScottiNailon: look in the prvmsg
[07:00] <BioVorE> jorvis_: uname -a
[07:00] <garryfre> I think it's uname -v or uname -n
[07:00] <tuxd00d> maybe uname -a
[07:00] <garryfre> oops
[07:01] <NickGarvey> uname -r or uname -v
[07:01] <NickGarvey> its -r
[07:01] <NickGarvey> I win
[07:01] <NickGarvey> you all lose
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > grr, what the hell
[07:01] <garryfre> uname -a gives a lot of info including the kernel version
[07:01] <Frogzoo> /pm ubotu docs
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > stupid gnome suddenly stopped opening windows
[07:01] <ic56> KrisWood: sounds like the device you specified isn't properly formatted.  You sure you specified the right one?  Try fsck /dev/<partition> to check
[07:02] <NickGarvey> garryfre: but with uname -r you can do cool things like apt-get install linux-sources-`uname -r`
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > shows it open in the bar at the bottom, than the switch goes away at the bottom and the window never opens
[07:02] <garryfre> NickGarvey Neat! Thanks.
[07:02] <ic56> KrisWood: did you add an entry in /etc/fstab?  What is it?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > damnit all, how the hell do I get the windows to open!?
[07:03] <darkyoshi372> I have an SD card that isn't formatted, but I can't do anything with it in the "Disks" thingy. How do I format it to FAT?
[07:03] <nachoWide> once i use package installer to install keepassx, how do i access the program?  it isn't under the applications list like when I add other programs.  how can I find it/add it to the applications list?
[07:03] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : haha I hate that, when something works and I don't know why and I know its going to break again
[07:03] <momoru> Anyone here use k9copy?
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey,  in this case, firefox froze up, and I can't open ANY windows now. They open at the bottom and close right away.
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > I can't even open xkill
[07:03] <affan> Hi All, How is the weekend? I am trying to install flashplugin-nonfree but its stuck at "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.63.3ubuntu3)".... any clues? thanks
[07:04] <darkyoshi372> Anyone? How to format SD card that doesn't show up on the desktop because it isn't formatted?
[07:04] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : get into a terminal
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, - I can't
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > NOTHING will open
[07:04] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ctrl alt f1
[07:04] <garryfre> affan: If there is a triangle in the window, it might be a closed terminal waiting for a response from a user.
[07:04] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : and then kill -9 firefox
[07:05] <nachoWide> affan: i was just there.  it took about 30 min, but it worked
[07:05] <garryfre> I had that happen tome, an install waiting in a closed terminal for a yes no response when upgrading from breezy to dapper.
[07:05] <nachoWide> affan: but i don't know what to do if it isn't working
[07:06] <affan> nachoWide: 30 minutes?? wow... ok i will wait
[07:06] <KrisWood> ic56: sorry had to stir dinner
[07:06] <jorvis_> I just finished an install and after updating the kernel version is 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic.  I'm want to install the nVidia drivers but the latest I see is 2.6.15-23 ... I need to wait for an update right?
[07:06] <elknof1> hey everybody does someone knows how to fix the issues of x-cd-roast??
[07:06] <Peaceful_> but why is there so many channels for linux and no one for windows?? :D
[07:06] <ic56> KrisWood: ok...
[07:06] <ubuntu_> hola
[07:06] <Cornellius> I <3 SoundKonverter
[07:06] <nachoWide> affan: but I don't know what to say if it doesn't work, and maybe it doesn't need more time.  maybe its frozen, but it took a long time for me
[07:06] <NickGarvey> Peaceful_: ##windows
[07:07] <elknof1> it says that there is no conf. file on root..
[07:07] <Peaceful_> NickGarvey on freenode?
[07:07] <affan> thanks nachoWide
[07:07] <nachoWide> can anyone explain how to use a program after using the package installer?  how do i get it to run?
[07:07] <ic56> KrisWood: ok. so the filesystem was recognized as an ext2/ext3 filesystem ==> /dev/hdb1 is right.
[07:08] <affan> nachoWide: which program did you install?
[07:08] <jorvis_> nachoWide: just enter the program's name
[07:08] <elknof1> or if someone can tell me how to config x-cd-roast
[07:08] <momoru> Anyone awake?
[07:08] <Peaceful_> NickGarvey okay :)
[07:08] <NickGarvey> Peaceful_: yessir
[07:08] <ScottiNailon> Anyone here that knows about using UBUNTU as a graphic Design workstation? with programs such as CorelDraw etc? please MSG me as I have bad eyes and often miss msgs...
[07:08] <nachoWide> keepassx
[07:08] <bobstro> croesus:  check out fwbuilder if you want VERY fine control over your firewall.
[07:08] <affan> nachoWide: if its a GNOME program it might be in the menus. Otherwise you can add it to the menus
[07:08] <Peaceful_> NickGarvey thank you sir lol (i'm a girl)
[07:09] <KrisWood> ic56: you still there?
[07:09] <ic56> KrisWood: that last field in /etc/fstab should be 2. 1 is for the first pass and you should save that for root.
[07:09] <nachoWide> affan:  not in the menu
[07:09] <NickGarvey> Peaceful_: heh sorry, I say yessir to everyone, sister gets a little annoyed
[07:09] <KrisWood> ah ok
[07:09] <affan> nachoWide: can you run it via the terminal?
[07:09] <ic56> KrisWood: otherwise looks good.  What do you mean "isn't formatted"?  If fsck reports no errors, it most certainly *is* formatted.
[07:09] <affan> nachoWide: just enter the name of the program on the command prompt
[07:09] <KrisWood> still gives the same error
[07:09] <KrisWood> even with a 2
[07:10] <ic56> KrisWood: now, ls -ld /mnt/hdb1 and show us the output.  (yes, the 2 wouldn't have any effect here -- it's for future issues)
[07:10] <nachoWide> affan: typing 'keepassx' doesn't work
[07:11] <affan> nachoWide: wat does the program do? is there a website for that software? i am not familiar with the program itself
[07:11] <KrisWood> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-06-17 21:58 /mnt/hdb1
[07:11] <nachoWide> affan:  password storage.  http://keepass.sourceforge.net/
[07:12] <lwizardl> if i wanted to do a complete system backup in ubuntu how would i do this?
[07:12] <affan> nachoWide: does this help? http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/en/howto.html
[07:12] <[Ex0r] > I got into terminal, and couldn't figure out how to get out.
[07:12] <ic56> KrisWood: allll right. are you sure you haven't already mounted somewhere else?  Issue "mount" and look at the output -- any hdb1 entries?  Try "mount |grep hdb1" to be sure you don't miss it when eyeballing.
[07:13] <KrisWood> no hdb entries
[07:13] <KrisWood> even with grep
[07:13] <affan> [Ex0r] : exit
[07:13] <nachoWide> affan: sure, but I just don't understand where the program is supposed to be located
[07:13] <[Ex0r] > affan- it puts me back into x ?
[07:13] <ic56> KrisWood: cut and paste the mount command you are using -- so we can see there are no typos in it.
[07:14] <KrisWood> sudo mount /mnt/hdb1
[07:14] <wulax> [Ex0r] : write startx
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > startx was already started
[07:14] <affan> nachoWide: I believe if its on the PATH it should be visible by typing: which keepassx
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > I used ctrl + alt + f1 from inside x
[07:14] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : heh sorry about that, ctrl alt f7
[07:14] <ScottiNailon> KrisWood would you not follow that with a /hdb or something?
[07:14] <affan> [Ex0r] : try Ctrl + Alt + F7
[07:14] <ScottiNailon> dont you gotta reference the device and then the folder you want to mount it to ?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > I thought I pressed that, all it did was say tty7
[07:15] <NickGarvey> eek battery gone
[07:15] <ic56> ScottiNailon: KrisWood has created an entry in /etc/fstab which allows mount to lookup the device pathname from the mountpoint and vice versa.
[07:15] <ScottiNailon> nice!
[07:15] <KrisWood> ScottiNailon: when I do that it asks me to specify a filesystem type
[07:16] <wulax> [Ex0r] : try  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:16] <ScottiNailon> i dunno
[07:16] <KrisWood> oh duh
[07:16] <[Ex0r] > nah i'm going to bed right now :)
[07:16] <ScottiNailon> hehe
[07:16] <KrisWood> got it now
[07:16] <[Ex0r] > thanks for the help, guys!
[07:16] <ic56> KrisWood: do tell!
[07:16] <KrisWood> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[07:17] <KrisWood> I looked at the mount help
[07:17] <ScottiNailon> heheh rtfm :) LOL
[07:17] <KrisWood> and I noticed my syntax was wrong
[07:17] <KrisWood> heh
[07:17] <KrisWood> >.<
[07:17] <antox> hi. there is some graphics splash screen overriding ubuntu startup messages... how do I turn it off ?
[07:17] <ic56> KrisWood: your syntax was correct, assuming your /etc/fstab is correct.
[07:17] <KrisWood> ah ok
[07:17] <KrisWood> hmmm it's still not showing up in my file browser
[07:18] <nachoWide> affan: sorry, i'm new to the whole installing process.  i used the DEB release, which is all graphical.  it shows all the directories where the files were unpacked, but i don't see how to run the thing
[07:18] <ic56> KrisWood: perhaps the filesystem type in /etc/fstab doesn't match what ou actually created?  In my mkfs instructions, I didn't specify filesystem type -- I figured I'd let it choose the default.  Do you remember if it decided to make it of type ext2 or ext3?
[07:19] <KrisWood> as far as I know it didn't decide anything
[07:19] <ic56> KrisWood: actually: mount should report its type now.
[07:19] <KrisWood> ok
[07:19] <Sivik> ok, i installed the xorg-....-fglrx and my fps dropped for an Xpress 200M
[07:19] <ic56> KrisWood: run mount, see what it says
[07:19] <b0rg> um if i wanted to get say video drivers for my nivida card what platform wouldi  select? ia64 or ia32? iam noob sorry ;X
[07:19] <KrisWood> ext2
[07:19] <KrisWood> so my /etc/fstab is wrong
[07:19] <ic56> KrisWood: does your /etc/fstab entry for /dev/hdb1 say ext2 ?
[07:19] <KrisWood> it does now ^.^
[07:19] <Sivik> !ati
[07:19] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:20] <ic56> KrisWood: ok. umount and mount again.  Does it now show up in your file browser?
[07:20] <garryfre> !nvidia
[07:20] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:20] <Cornellius> Man, soundKonverter is awe-some.
[07:21] <KrisWood> ic56: no it doesn't, but mount works properly now
[07:21] <sloncho> i removed some packages with apt-get remove. but they are still listed with dpkg -l. the line of the list of trhese packages starts with "rc". what is this? how do I completely remove them?
[07:21] <jajaja0> can someone give me a hand installing phpmyadmin with ubuntu 6.06?
[07:21] <ic56> KrisWood: ok, what do we mean by "show up in the file browser"?  Which application and which screen of that application?
[07:22] <KrisWood> ic56: Places > Computer
[07:22] <KrisWood> the first screen that comes up
[07:22] <antox> is it possible to turn off "nice" output while booting Ubuntu? for some reason I want plain-text... %)
[07:23] <garryfre> sloncho: You will have to find the files where those lines are at and comment them out.
[07:23] <jajaja0> i am getting couldnt find package when installing phpmyadmin by typing.... sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:23] <KrisWood> antox: yes it's possible, I did that with my server box, but I don't remember how I did it :-/
[07:23] <ic56> KrisWood: Places>computer 1st screen lists the contents of /media plus it has a virtual entry for / (labelled filesystem), though which you can navigate to anywhere else.  You mounted in /mnt, so it's not visible there.
[07:23] <sloncho> garryfe: these lines are the output of dpkg -l
[07:24] <sloncho> garryfre: these lines are the output of dpkg -l
[07:24] <KrisWood> ah ok, so how do I get it to show up there?
[07:24] <KrisWood> change fstab I'm guessing?
[07:24] <ic56> KrisWood: undo all you did and re-do :-)
[07:24] <antox> KrisWood: any keyword for me? does it depend on some package?
[07:25] <KrisWood> antox: I think it was a setting somewhere, no I don't remember it was over a year ago and I think I found it by accident
[07:25] <ic56> KrisWood: yes: umount, mv /mnt/hdb1 /media (relocate the directory), edit /etc/fstab, mount
[07:25] <KrisWood> ic56:  thanks
[07:25] <antox> KrisWood: 10x anyway!
[07:25] <garryfre> say sloncho Yes, they are script files that run on startup, and the output of these scripts from the most recent boot can be seen by doing dpkg. I'm not sure what dkpg -l does.
[07:26] <sponix> does ubuntu 6.06 have reiserfs for a fs install option ?
[07:26] <sloncho> garryfre: I do dpkg -l | grep myth. And the output is some mythtv packages which I deinstalled, but they are still listed, but every line starts with "rc". dpkg -l just lists installed packages
[07:26] <ic56> KrisWood: what do you plan to store on that filesystem?  So many people here are making such poor use of the directory tree hierarchy...
[07:27] <affan> sponix: yes i just installed it with reiserfs
[07:27] <KrisWood> ic56 just data, mostly backups of stuff
[07:27] <garryfre> say sloncho so you don't see specific or complete script files or the source of these lines?
[07:27] <KrisWood> mp3 and video I'd say for the most part
[07:27] <garryfre> sloncho taht is the file names.
[07:28] <ic56> KrisWood: in that case, why don't mount it in /local/backup1 or /local/big1 (ie for big files, like backup dumps or movies)
[07:28] <jajaja-> can someone give me a hand installing phpmyadmin?
[07:28] <KrisWood> because I want it to show up as a drive in the file browser :-/
[07:29] <sponix> affan: normal 6.06 CD ? I hear on Kubuntu its not there, someone said "on DVD" it is
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, - sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[07:29] <Cornellius> I have download the Kubuntu 6.06 CD
[07:29] <KrisWood> I'm a former windows user as of today, I just want GUI metaphors I'm familiar with until I get more comfortable with it
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, - than access http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ and use root with no password to log in. (Be sure to go into privileges and set a password!)
[07:30] <jajaja-> it tells me "couldnt find package phpmyadmin"
[07:30] <timfrost> jajaja-, have you activated the universe repository?  You need that repository to get phpmyadm9in
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, - did you update your sources.list file ?
[07:30] <timfrost> !repos
[07:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:30] <sloncho> garryfre: this is the output of dpkg -l | grep mis.  http://pastebin.com/715946
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > follow that link, than give it a try
[07:31] <[Ex0r] > night!
[07:31] <jajaja-> ok ill check that first, thank you
[07:31] <affan> sponix: i downloaded from ubuntu website and burnt a CD
[07:31] <KrisWood> ic56: it's mounting into media now but still not showing up in the file browser
[07:31] <Trashcan> i've got a 6.06 system with no MBR. can I use a 5.10 install cd to recover it?
[07:31] <senakey> hey folks, if i want to correctly create my modules/uname/build directory, should i be symlinking that to /usr/include/linux? i mean thats where linux-kernel-headers installed to just seems a bit messy?...
[07:31] <sloncho> garryfre: and these 3 packages are uninstalled. why they are still shown?
[07:31] <affan> i already had Gentoo under reiserfs
[07:31] <KrisWood> it's in /media/hdb1
[07:31] <ic56> KrisWood: Places> Computer is meant for removable media -- cdroms, usb sticks, DVDs, ipods...  This drive is fixed.  It should be part of your regular filesystem tree.  You should create a directory tree inside it containing, eg: mp3/ backup/ tmp/ and then symbolic links from your home directory or your desktop.  ~KrisWood/mp3 should take you to the right directory within that partition.
[07:32] <KrisWood> heh
[07:32] <senakey> sloncho: that is their config files most likely
[07:32] <KrisWood> I hope you understand that you're making my head spin :-/
[07:32] <KrisWood> symlinks are still foreign to me
[07:32] <senakey> sloncho: check the code (ii/etc/etc) and what they mean at the top of the dpkg listning (w/o grep)
[07:32] <krazykit> KrisWood: think of symlinks as really smart shortcuts.
[07:32] <KrisWood> and the filesystem is still kinda wierd
[07:33] <b0rg> i got error with the nivida guide...
[07:33] <ic56> KrisWood: The file browser might be configured to not show fixed disks.  We can fix that.  What's so hard about symlinks?  Never created a shortcut in Windows?!
[07:33] <senakey> sloncho: if u want to remove configs, use dpkg -P <pkgname>
[07:33] <KrisWood> krazykit: actually they're more like the path variable in windows I think
[07:33] <codecaine> clear
[07:33] <garryfre> say sloncho I see what you mean. Some script file is trying to execute those lines.
[07:33] <KrisWood> I dunno, I'm just not used to it, but willing to learn hehe
[07:33] <evader> Hi, I can't seem to ctrl-alt-F1/F2 etc. It won't let me out to a console. Syslog says this: Jun 18 15:26:19 localhost login[5157] : FAILED LOGIN (1) on `tty1' FOR `UNKNOWN', User not known to the underlying authentication module
[07:34] <KrisWood> it's all just a little overwhelming :)
[07:34] <krazykit> KrisWood: no, they're not.  a symlink is pretty much a shortcut.  if you symlink directory foo to bar, bar will seem to have everything in foo.
[07:34] <evader> Any ideas?
[07:34] <KrisWood> krazykit: ok I misunderstood then
[07:34] <garryfre> cmd ReplaceMybraintooStupidToPutASlashBeforeSay.
[07:34] <sponix> what do you all use to burn dvd ISO images ?
[07:34] <ic56> KrisWood: Krazykit is right -- Windows shortcuts are a good analogy for symlinks.  However, they are dumber than Windows shortcuts -- they have fewer features which makes them less discriminatory -- ie they work teh same way on all kinds of files whereas windows shortcuts have different features depending on the kind of file.
[07:35] <Consty> sponix: probably the build in burning app
[07:35] <Consty> sponix: built in burning app I mean
[07:35] <affan> sponix: K3B
[07:35] <b0rg> i get thsi error code when fellowing the nivida guide. Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[07:35] <b0rg> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[07:35] <b0rg> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[07:35] <b0rg> command:
[07:35] <b0rg> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[07:35] <b0rg> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[07:35] <KrisWood> well, for now I can find it by navigating to /media/hdb1 so that's good enough
[07:35] <b0rg> from nv to nvidia.
[07:35] <Dad_> how do I find my MAC address for wireless and ethernet?
[07:35] <sloncho> sanakey, garryfre: thanks. I understand now
[07:35] <KrisWood> now on to drivers :)
[07:35] <evader> Any idea why I can't ctrl-alt-f1/f2 etc?
[07:35] <KrisWood> anyone here use a wacom tablet?
[07:36] <KrisWood> so far it's the only hardware I have that's not auto detected
[07:36] <Trashcan> if i'm rescuing a 6.06 system, will i NEED to use a 6.06 disc or will 5.10 disc work?
[07:36] <senakey> evader: i dont think that is your problem, although you could try checking /etc/inittab: that is what controls your vcs essentially
[07:36] <ic56> KrisWood: ok, have it your way.  To fix the brwoser, start gconf-editor
[07:36] <MistaED> kriswood: yep i have one
[07:36] <senakey> evader: i think you have a PAM/auth issue
[07:36] <affan> Hello all, i tried running "glxgears" on the laptop with NVidia card but its very slow. Is my OpenGL properly configured? how do i know? the screensavers work fine
[07:36] <KrisWood> MistaED: have you tried it with ubuntu? how well does it perform?
[07:36] <wulax> Dad_: ifconfig
[07:36] <Dad_> ty
[07:37] <wulax> in HWaddr
[07:37] <KrisWood> ic56: thanks :)
[07:37] <garryfre> sloncho Welcome.
[07:37] <senakey> hey folks, if i want a modules/`uname -r`/build directory, should i be symlinking that to /usr/include/linux? i mean thats where linux-kernel-headers installed to, but it just seems a bit messy?...
[07:37] <MistaED> kriswood: look up the wiki entries on wiki.ubuntu.com, i needed to make a udev config so it symlinks to /dev/input/wacom (you need to edit your xorg.conf accordingly) but it's all outlined in those instructions
[07:37] <KrisWood> ok thanks :)
[07:38] <MistaED> kriswood: it works very nicely, i have a 6x11 intuos3 and it works, not sure if tilt is working because i'm not sure if the gimp supports that, and the shoulder buttons need this program called "expresskeys" afaik, which wacom are you using?
[07:39] <jrsims> HEY, my last synaptic update killed my Nvidia drivers. I can't get to a web browser. What do I need to do to restore my nvidia driver?
[07:39] <garryfre> say senakey I read that you want to keep the sources separate to minimize risk of overwriting something.
[07:39] <KrisWood> MistaED: I've got the 9x12 intuos3, I'm just praying I'll be able to get photoshop working with cedega or crossover office
[07:40] <KrisWood> ic56: I've got the gconf-editor running but I don't see anything to make fixed disks show up in the file browser
[07:40] <MistaED> kriswood: photoshop7 works awesomely with crossover5
[07:40] <senakey> garryfre: exactly, but default linux-kernel-headers installs to /usr/include/ :-(
[07:40] <MistaED> kriswood: even pressure sensitivity is auto-detcted
[07:40] <codecaine> jrsims install the new kernal modules
[07:40] <jrsims> codecaine: know how?
[07:40] <KrisWood> MistaED: nice :)
[07:40] <ic56> KrisWood: I'm trying to figure out how to do it.
[07:41] <KrisWood> ah ok thanks :)
[07:41] <nekostar> EH
[07:41] <nekostar> er
[07:41] <nekostar> eh
[07:41] <sjoerd_> how do i make ubuntu gnome look like windows xp?
[07:41] <nekostar> what happened to the controls for hte screensavers ?
[07:41] <codecaine> apt-cache search nvidia
[07:41] <nekostar> so i could define what goes on with the gl ones ???
[07:41] <affan> sjoerd_: you mite find some themes on gnome-look.org
[07:41] <codecaine> should be linux-restricted-modules
[07:42] <garryfre> senakey yeah, I always thoguht that was strange. I've read one can just make a separate directory and compile and install the modules from there, and if the make needs the default header files, it seems to be smart enough to find them.
[07:42] <codecaine> and the kernal u using uname -a
[07:43] <jrsims> kernel u?
[07:43] <tonygeorge> hi how to install grub on my computer from an ubuntu live cd?
[07:43] <senakey> garryfre: most makefiles look for it in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build i've noticed
[07:43] <sjoerd_> what do i do when my fonts look really blurry under ubuntu?
[07:44] <garryfre> nekostar: Ohters have noticed that as well , they said installing xscreensaver fixed this, I tried it and it made no difference.
[07:44] <jorvis_> man, ubuntu comes with almost no fun perl modules
[07:45] <nekostar> garryfre, im betting one would have to uninstall one and install the other.
[07:45] <nekostar> ill fix it and let u know
[07:45] <garryfre> senakey Yeah, I've seen search paths built from the contents of arch variables and they end up using the 386 stuff as well.
[07:45] <jrsims> codecaine: sorry, has to step out for a sec. So I just install the restricted kernel modules, nvidia-glx, and that should be it?
[07:45] <tonygeorge> hi anyone knows if its possible to install grub boot loader on my computer from UBUNTU live cd?
[07:45] <garryfre> say nekostar Yeah, ye could be right.
[07:45] <tonygeorge> thanks in advance
[07:46] <Sivik> i can't get audio to work in dapper
[07:46] <garryfre> Yes tonygeorge, however, it will default to putting it on the first drive mbr.
[07:46] <rjian> can anyone help me with samba accessing share folder from windows??
[07:47] <codecaine> yep thats what I had to do
[07:47] <codecaine> just the restricted kernelmodules
[07:47] <codecaine> didn't have to do anything with nvidia-glx
[07:47] <tonygeorge> garryfre, yes that is fine. I cannot boot my linux because had to install windows for a short while to run quicken. my other applications are in ubuntu. :(
[07:48] <Sivik> tonygeorge, did you ever see if there was a problem like quicken for linux?
[07:48] <Sivik> !quicken
[07:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sivik
[07:48] <wulax> tonygeorge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2689
[07:48] <Sivik> !alsa
[07:48] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:48] <Sivik> !audio
[07:48] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sivik
[07:48] <rjian> can anyone help me accessing share folder???] 
[07:48] <tonygeorge> oh that is possible??? let me check.
[07:48] <justice> for some reasion if I'm away from my computer I lose the network, I can still ping the router but no firefox no e-mail no ssh nothing
[07:48] <wulax> tonygeorge: i haven't tried it myself, but searching the forum often helps
[07:49] <shrump_jimbo> sivik: gnucash?
[07:49] <jrsims> codecaine: sweet. trying now. thanks for the help.
[07:49] <codecaine> np
[07:49] <Sivik> shrump_jimbo, gnucash? no, i'm trying to get audio from a AC'97 sound card and i can't figure it out
[07:49] <senakey> !kernel-headers
[07:49] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, senakey
[07:49] <shrump_jimbo> oh, good luck with that
[07:49] <rjian> !winserver
[07:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rjian
[07:49] <garryfre> say tonygeorge. I have seen an option to recover a busted linux install but I'm not sure it was on the live cd or not, and the one I tried, seemed to do a lot of fixing of stuff when I only needed to reinstall grub. I aborted and ended up just reinstalling fresh, it looked so much like a fresh install.
[07:49] <Sivik> shrump_jimbo, does that means its hard?
[07:50] <rjian> !wins
[07:50] <ubotu> rjian: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <justice> any idea why my network dies , works on all other pc's
[07:50] <tonygeorge> wulax, but i ran dual boot before. just this time I installed windows after linux.
[07:50] <ubuntu> i wonder why it takes so damn long to update
[07:50] <garryfre> !build-essentials
[07:50] <ubotu> garryfre: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <shrump_jimbo> have you tried www.linuxant.com?
[07:50] <Locke_> how do i bind a key combination to 3ddesk
[07:50] <tonygeorge> my current problem is that the grub is gone and no way to load the linux installation.
[07:50] <ubuntu> justice:  do you have any errors
[07:50] <ic56> KrisWood: I give up.  I thought I had seen a way to do this but, upon more careful testing, I disovered I know of no way to make fixed drives mounted in /media be displayed in Places> Computer.  Let's ask the channel.
[07:51] <justice> none that I know of
[07:51] <tonygeorge> im done with the windows installation. so if it freezes with windows no problem. :)
[07:51] <KrisWood> heh
[07:51] <KrisWood> well the windows drives automatically showed up there
[07:51] <ic56> How do I make fixed drives mounted in /media be displayed in Places> Computer (aka Nautilus> Computer)
[07:51] <timfrost> !grub
[07:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:51] <justice> it works fine for a while then it dies reset then its ok
[07:51] <ubuntu> ic56: huh?
[07:51] <garryfre> yay, for the bot!
[07:51] <Sivik> does anyone have a AC'97 sou7nd card working in ubuntu
[07:52] <Locke_> Sivik, yes, we do
[07:52] <wulax> tonygeorge: ok, as i said, i haven't done it myself so i cant be of much help
[07:52] <tonygeorge> garryfre, i dont want to re install linux. :-(
[07:52] <Sivik> Locke_, how would i go about getting it to work
[07:52] <ubuntu> Sivik: ubuntu will automaticly set it up for you,
[07:52] <Locke_> Sivik, it worked automatically in my roommates
[07:52] <Madpilot> Sivik, yes - mine works automatically
[07:52] <ic56> ubuntu: which part do you need me to clarify?
[07:52] <Sivik> Madpilot, must be nice
[07:52] <Locke_> we installed it on his and it worked no problem
[07:52] <Locke_> what program are you trying to run
[07:52] <Sivik> Locke_, LTS?
[07:52] <tonygeorge> wulax, ok thank you.
[07:52] <Locke_> Sivik, ydes
[07:52] <ubuntu> Sivik: try getting alsa,
[07:52] <KrisWood> Sivik it worked automatically for my wife, but the surround sound won't work
[07:52] <Locke_> i installed breezy on it to start and it worked fine in that too
[07:52] <ubuntu> it should detect it
[07:52] <garryfre> say tonygeorge Yeah, try that link that showed up when timfrost did !Grub it shows how to reinstall and fix grub only last I looked.
[07:52] <Locke_> then we upgraded it
[07:53] <KrisWood> even with alsa the surround doesn't work
[07:53] <Sivik> !alsa
[07:53] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[07:53] <tonygeorge> garryfre, ok i am on it.
[07:53] <ubuntu> Sivik: query the bot too much flood
[07:53] <justice> it bafles me, Only this install seems to have a problem
[07:53] <nekostar> hey garryfre
[07:53] <Sivik> ubuntu: what are you talking aobut
[07:53] <nekostar> uninstall gnome-screensaver
[07:53] <nekostar> install xscreensaver
[07:53] <garryfre> Good luck, likely you will suceeed.
[07:53] <ubuntu> Sivik: you will see,
[07:54] <nekostar> then you need to type xscreensaver in the term to get the settings and your golden kthx
[07:54] <ic56> How do I make an ext2 partition mounted under /media be displayed in Places> Computer (aka Nautilus> Computer)?
[07:54] <ubuntu> i wonder why my xchat isn't working, that sucks,
[07:54] <ubuntu> !tell ic56 about mount
[07:54] <rjian> can anyone help me config a share folder??
[07:54] <ubuntu> rjian: try asking
[07:54] <Moodles> is there anyway I can force X to run at1280x1024 without having to reboot?
[07:54] <Sivik> ubuntu, he has about 3 times
[07:55] <tonygeorge> garryfre, i read that link, but does this work if I am doing those instructions from a live cd?
[07:55] <KrisWood> rofl, the ubuntu bot is a riot, I love it :)
[07:55] <ubuntu> i just got here Sivik
[07:55] <Sivik> Moodles, you can restart the x session by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:55] <Sivik> ubuntu: ok
[07:55] <rjian> how to browse a share folder so that windows can browse the folder??
[07:55] <Sivik> how do i go about getting the sound to work?
[07:56] <ubuntu> rjian: you need to have samba working,
[07:56] <Sivik> AC'97, LTS
[07:56] <ubuntu> !tell Sivik about sound
[07:56] <johan_> or go to a console moodless type init3 after change settings manually type init5
[07:56] <garryfre> I noticed that I did't have to uninstall the gnome screensaver to get at the command line xscreensaver.
[07:56] <Sivik> ubuntu: that didn't work
[07:56] <ubuntu> Sivik: try getting alsa then
[07:56] <rjian> ubuntu: ive already installed it the problem is that when windows browse to ubuntu it ask a password...??
[07:56] <Sivik> ubuntu, alsa is already installed
[07:56] <Sivik> ubuntu, but doesn't seem to be working
[07:57] <ubuntu> rjian: try putting you're username password perhaps?
[07:57] <garryfre> tonygeorge I'm not sure, I remember reading a link about using an install cd to reinstall grub, but it might have been the alternate install cd.
[07:57] <johan_> Sivik what type of soundcard you have you can put settings in modules.conf
[07:58] <tonygeorge> i see. i will try with an installation cd then
[07:58] <tonygeorge> thanks to all you guys. :-) have a good Sunday.
[07:58] <garryfre> necrodearia I am now looking at the links to see if I can find an answer.
[07:59] <StarScream> hey guys, i've got an ubuntu dapper server going as a router. I was wondering if its possible to exectute a script on pppoe connect.
[08:00] <StarScream> i've added one to /etc/ppp/ifup.d/
[08:00] <StarScream> and made it executeable
[08:00] <freddyubuntu> hey guys do any of you know a Calculator program for ubuntu ,which can Draw Graphs ? like graph of y=x^2  ?
[08:00] <StarScream> but it doesn't seem to run on connect
[08:00] <ic56> KrisWood: sorry, man, I'm tired.  Once I remembered to actually mount something under /media for my tests, I realised I actually have the opposite problem from you: I know of now way to *prevent* a mounted drive from being displayed in Places>Computer.  Which amounts to the same thing: there's a config option somewhere and I don't know hwere it is.
[08:00] <StarScream> freddyubuntu: Openoffice has a math program in that can do it
[08:01] <Krhis> Dosn't OO.org2 have somthing like that?
[08:01] <dragoon> yes
[08:01] <dragoon> open office calc
[08:01] <freddyubuntu> aha
[08:01] <StarScream> freddyubuntu: nope its called Math
[08:01] <ubuntu> man this update is taking for ever,
[08:01] <ubuntu> that sucks
[08:01] <Guilt> heh
[08:01] <ubuntu> i hate it,
[08:01] <freddyubuntu> I cant see it in my program list ,...
[08:02] <Guilt> i once ran a breezy to drapper beta 2 update
[08:02] <Krhis> It's hidden.
[08:02] <ubuntu> i wonder why my laptop doesn't work under debian
[08:02] <Guilt> that fscked up my bootpart, gave a kern panic etc
[08:02] <Guilt> :(
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> I checked it
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> i ti snot hidden
[08:02] <B1zz>  whoa that last guy joined 3 times!
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> i think I have to add it
[08:02] <ubuntu> im so us to debian
[08:02] <freddyubuntu> so it can draw any Graph?
[08:02] <Guilt> that was the last time i was on ubuntu
[08:02] <rjian_> can anyone help me with share folder accessing windows to ubuntu?
[08:02] <Krhis> Applications > Accessories > Alacar....
[08:02] <Krhis> Can't miss it.
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> krhis I checked that
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> there is no hidden thing in my office
[08:03] <Krhis> Alacarte Menu Editor*
[08:03] <Krhis> Oh.
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> it is not installed
[08:03] <B1zz> rjian accesing a folder on windows from ubuntu?
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> I see two things in package manager
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> open office draw, and open office math
[08:03] <freddyubuntu> which is for me?
[08:03] <Krhis> Math.
[08:04] <rjian> blzz: windows browsing ubuntu folder??
[08:04] <B1zz> oh
[08:04] <B1zz> idk :-p
[08:04] <ic56> KrisWood: I've had another person have this problem
[08:04] <rjian> blzz: do u know how?
[08:04] <KrisWood> ok now I need some music while I install stuff :)
[08:04] <B1zz> nope
[08:04] <rjian> ah ok...
[08:04] <KrisWood> what's a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[08:04] <ic56> KrisWood: could try rebooting?  I'd like to see if maybe it will have an effect
[08:04] <ubuntu> xmms KrisWood
[08:04] <garryfre> say necrodearia Oops, mistell
[08:04] <KrisWood> other than VLC
[08:05] <ubuntu> xmms is good
[08:05] <Vandrei_Jaques> KrisWood, i like XMMS :)
[08:05] <rjian> anyone knows samba?? windows browsing ubuntu folder??
[08:05] <Krhis> KrisWood, I use XMMS.
[08:05] <KrisWood> ok :) I'll give that a try
[08:05] <Vandrei_Jaques> KrisWood, i have listening in Listen
[08:05] <ubuntu> i like mp3blaster
[08:05] <johan_> amarok is working too but for kde
[08:05] <ubuntu> is cool two but is a text player thought
[08:05] <ic56> KrisWood: waiting for you to reboot.  Don't be long!
[08:05] <KrisWood> oh! ok
[08:06] <Vandrei_Jaques> ubuntu, i used mp3blaster in SuSE 10.1 hehehe
[08:06] <KrisWood> after I'm done moving my mp3s to the new drive
[08:06] <KrisWood> isn't ubuntu a bot?
[08:06] <afflux> morgen
[08:06] <ic56> KrisWood: how long? I need sleep...
[08:06] <garryfre> Ubunto if I recall
[08:06] <rjian> ubuntu: do u know how will windows browse to ubuntu??
[08:06] <Madpilot> KrisWood, ubotu is the bot
[08:06] <garryfre> er sec that's not right ...
[08:06] <ic56> KrisWood: ubotu is a bot.  ubuntu is, I think, the default username so it could be anybody.
[08:06] <KrisWood> 1 min left
[08:06] <KrisWood> oooh ok my bad
[08:06] <ubuntu> damn i want to installed debian on my laptop but the installation doesn't detect my network card,
[08:07] <KrisWood> here I thought it was just a really clever bot
[08:07] <KrisWood> lol
[08:07] <ubuntu> rjian: not really because all of my pcs i have linux
[08:07] <garryfre> Is it woreless?
[08:07] <ic56> KrisWood: that would have been an AI!
[08:07] <ubuntu> by the way what the heck is windows?
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> I'm having a really wierd issue here...
[08:07] <B1zz> rjian.  Maybe try this?
[08:07] <ubuntu> JairunCaloth: you have you're period?
[08:07] <B1zz> opps
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> Ok, this sounds crazy
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> but here goes
[08:07] <johan_> in some way we are all weird :D
[08:07] <garryfre> er wireless?
[08:07] <rjian> bllz: wat will i try?
[08:08] <ubuntu> garryfre: not really i have an ethernet card, but the driver e100 it doesn't seem to work
[08:08] <KrisWood> ok brb rebooting
[08:08] <JairunCaloth> I wrote a shell script to start World of Warcraft for me, so I didn't have to go to the directory and all that in a terminal and such. However, when I use the shell script, the sound dosn't work.
[08:08] <garryfre> what does ifconfig say?
[08:08] <B1zz> i tried to pm you but not recognizing my name
[08:08] <B1zz> try this link see if it helps http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4138
[08:08] <JairunCaloth> BUT, when I open a terminal and type the exact same commands into the terminal, the sound works fine
[08:09] <ubuntu> garryfre: when i try installing debian?
[08:09] <B1zz> i will brb gonna go into x-chat
[08:09] <garryfre> say ubuntu Oh I see, ye are not getting that far. Hmm.
[08:09] <garryfre> !ubuntulog
[08:09] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[08:09] <ubuntu> ???
[08:10] <ic56> What is controlled by gconf-editor> System> Storage ?
[08:10] <JairunCaloth> Is that not jacked up?
[08:10] <Dad_> I need help getting my wireless to work. I am using an Airport Extreme and Ubuntu laptop. I have had this working b4.
[08:10] <ubuntu> Dad_: where you at?
[08:10] <JairunCaloth> I suppose I should also say, I'm using a launcher on my panel to start the script
[08:10] <Dad_> ubuntu, what do u mean?
[08:10] <ubuntu> you are in an airport?
[08:11] <Dad_> no
[08:11] <Dad_> my house
[08:11] <garryfre> ubuntu the ! followed by a command or keword  often causes the bot here to yield info on the subject. I did not know what ubuntulog is.
[08:11] <ubuntu> okey
[08:11] <afflux> JairunCaloth, what happens if you start the script with console?
[08:11] <ubuntu> well im in my laptop and is working the wireless card didnd't do much
[08:12] <rjian> how can i access swat samba?? wats the default port??
[08:12] <JairunCaloth> sound works when I start the script from the terminal
[08:12] <garryfre> !ndiswrapper
[08:12] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:12] <KrisWood> ok back
[08:12] <ubuntu> well im in my laptop and is working the wireless card didnd't do much
[08:13] <JairunCaloth> afflux: however, I do have the launcher set to run in terminal
[08:13] <ic56> KrisWood: great!  So what's the verdict?
[08:13] <ubuntu> i wonder if debian brings ndiswrapper,
[08:13] <ubuntu> on it is installation
[08:13] <KrisWood> all four drives now show up in the file browser :)
[08:13] <afflux> thats really quite weird.
[08:13] <JairunCaloth> It works every single time
[08:13] <garryfre> Grats KrisWood
[08:13] <ic56> so rebooting *did* fix the problem...
[08:13] <KrisWood> it occurs to me though that a better place for it to show up is the desktop
[08:13] <JairunCaloth> without fail
[08:13] <ic56> KrisWood: so rebooting *did* fix the problem...
[08:13] <KrisWood> yup :) thanks :)
[08:14] <ic56> KrisWood: that's what I told you: make a symlink to your desktop
[08:14] <afflux> btw. World of Warcraft did install an start with wine or what?
[08:14] <ubuntu> damn this laptop is so damn slow, i need a new one,
[08:14] <KrisWood> ok how do I do that?
[08:14] <ubuntu> anyone wants to donate a laptop
[08:14] <ubuntu> ;X
[08:14] <JairunCaloth> afflux; yes I"m running it in wine
[08:14] <JairunCaloth> the script is very simple
[08:14] <garryfre> I think you can dragand drop from places KrisWood
[08:14] <ic56> KrisWood: you wanna move that filesystem out of Places> Computer to /local first?
[08:14] <afflux> nice. thats a point i will show my friends, maybe they will get ubuntu too :D
[08:14] <JairunCaloth> just a cd to the wow directory, then wine wow.exe
[08:15] <KrisWood> ic56: it doesn't matter to me where it's really located, unless it has a negative effect on the system as it is
[08:15] <johan_> mine laptop working fine MHZ 266 pentium II mem 168 mhz
[08:15] <ubuntu> yuck i hate wine, i love cedega better, is way better,
[08:15] <garryfre> How does wine do weith wow?
[08:15] <garryfre> er with
[08:15] <JairunCaloth> world of warcraft sucks ass in cedega
[08:15] <ubuntu> is nothing special still the same,
[08:15] <JairunCaloth> runs beautifly in wine though
[08:15] <ubuntu> JairunCaloth: how about diablo Ii, and all those game
[08:15] <afflux> Diablo II working here
[08:15] <ubuntu> cool,
[08:15] <JairunCaloth> Eh, I don't know to be honest
[08:16] <ubuntu> diablo ii is one of the best, game running in cedega
[08:16] <ubuntu> i love it sure it's nice
[08:16] <KrisWood> Speaking of cedega have any of you tried 3dsmax in it? or Unreal Tournament 2004?
[08:16] <afflux> at me working with wine!
[08:16] <ubuntu> oh cool,
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> I ran Star Wars Galaxies in cedega for a long time, and got better performance with it then I EVER did in windows
[08:16] <ubuntu> but you can still hack cedega, though i found lots of bittorents for it,
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> and it's straight DX9
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> UT 2004 installs nativly in linux
[08:17] <afflux> Unreal Tournament working natevily and with BETTER performance in Ubuntu than in linux
[08:17] <skavenge> unreal tournament has linux support without wine or cedega...
[08:17] <Guilt> "SCO has announced their plans to release a new version of Caldera Linux "
[08:17] <Guilt> :o ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111
[08:17] <KrisWood> ooooh nice
[08:17] <ubuntu> Guilt: and?
[08:17] <KrisWood> how do I do that?
[08:17] <ubuntu> nevery try caldera
[08:17] <ubuntu> *never
[08:17] <Guilt> read the rest of it here: http://www.openlinux.org/releasedetail.cfm?id=21370
[08:17] <KrisWood> is it on the same CD as the windows version?
[08:17] <afflux> JairunCaloth, try following command in starter? wine [path_to_wow] /wow.exe
[08:17] <Guilt> "Caldera has always led the way in providing stable, reliable, tested solutions for our key Linux server markets, and this release of OpenLinux X follows that same course," said Darl McBride, CEO and President, The SCO Group. "Regardless of whether you're a small-to-medium sized business, a corporate developer or a reseller, Caldera OpenLinux X will deliver impressive, capable and powerful choices"
[08:18] <johan_> so SCO is back to real purpose of linux or ????
[08:18] <harry> how do you convert a folder into a zip file??
[08:18] <Guilt> naah. they just need more money
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> Heh... havn't thought of that afflux :-p
[08:18] <afflux> ^^
[08:18] <skavenge> KrisWood; dunno if its on the cd but the linux executables/files are readily available off the web
[08:18] <Guilt> http://www.openlinux.org
[08:18] <harry> how do you convert a folder into a zip file??
[08:18] <Guilt> THAT is a disgrace to Linux
[08:18] <Guilt> harry, man zip
[08:18] <afflux> youre repeating, harry
[08:19] <johan_> make a empty zipfile include the map :P
[08:19] <freddyubuntu> guys I have problem running my open office math , I tired alacatre menu editor, ti is not there... whats the terminal command to run open office Math ?
[08:19] <afflux> harry, you can klick in the filebrowser Natilus with right klick and "Create Archive"
[08:19] <KrisWood> skavenge: sweet I'll have to look that up
[08:19] <KrisWood> how do I make a symlink?
[08:19] <Guilt> oh god, you guys
[08:19] <afflux> ln -s
[08:19] <skavenge> 'ln'
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> KrisWood, I installed UT2004 straight off of the CD into ubuntu. They even have an install script on it :)
[08:19] <garryfre> KrisWood: You mean like creating a shortcut to a file on your desktop?
[08:19] <johan_> use mc thats the most easy if you are not common to command_lines
[08:19] <Guilt> read the LINUX HOWTO; )
[08:19] <Guilt> ;)
[08:20] <KrisWood> garryfre:  yes
[08:20] <afflux> KrisWood, ln -s
[08:20] <ic56> KrisWood: garryfre's suggestion doesn't create a symlink, it creates a GUI thingy that I just learned about.  hang on.
[08:20] <Guilt> Well.. it's nice to hear that this place is quite friendly :)
[08:20] <afflux> freddyubuntu, its oomath
[08:20] <garryfre> Yeah, I just foundabout it msyelf.
[08:21] <KrisWood> well for example hdc1 shows up on my desktop all by itself
[08:21] <KrisWood> I want hdb1 to do the same thing
[08:21] <apache2> soooooooooooo, I'm just dying to know and have been waiting in high anticipation for a lonnng time
[08:21] <apache2> any news on ubuntu for intel-macs?
[08:21] <freddyubuntu> affuix thanks !
[08:21] <garryfre> Its ln -s targetfilepathandname Symlink name if I recall.
[08:21] <freddyubuntu> but why there is no office math in my menu ?
[08:21] <skavenge> whats the next ubuntu release called?
[08:21] <garryfre> I dunno freddyubuntu
[08:22] <afflux> cant see, but at mine there is none too
[08:22] <afflux> *either
[08:22] <apache2> intel-macs anyone?
[08:22] <Knome> skavenge: Edgy Eft
[08:22] <freddyubuntu> anybody can tell me how to draw a simple graph?
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> afflux: no sound period if I use a launcher...
[08:22] <freddyubuntu> like y=x^2
[08:22] <skavenge> Knome; eft? is that an animal still?
[08:22] <garryfre> yeah that's it, I knw it ws an odd hard to remember name.
[08:22] <afflux> if you use the command in console, there is i guess?
[08:22] <Knome> *shrug*
[08:22] <B1zz> is dad still here?
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> yup
[08:23] <freddyubuntu> I think oopen offfice math, is not for drwaing graph
[08:23] <freddyubuntu> but to write forumulas
[08:23] <afflux> 08:06 -  * Dad_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[08:23] <freddyubuntu> am I right?
[08:23] <skavenge> heh they've been on the animal names for so long i figured it'd be rocky raccoon or something
[08:23] <johan_> use tux-paint :p
[08:23] <B1zz> doh!
[08:23] <KrisWood> ok this ln thing is confusing...
[08:23] <B1zz> i had a page for him :-p
[08:24] <afflux> KrisWood, i think it is quite simple. what you want to do?
[08:24] <ic56> KrisWood: ok, the more efficient of the two ways (long term) is the CLI version: ln -s /media/hdb1/music ~/Desktop/music
[08:24] <garryfre> or Pretty Plattypuss
[08:24] <B1zz> there he is
[08:24] <Dad> I need help getting my wireless to work. I am using an Airport Extreme and Ubuntu laptop. I have had this working b4.
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> I know I havn't messed up the commands... because the game runs perfectly fine
[08:24] <KrisWood> it shows up as a folder instead of as a drive
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> other than no sound..
[08:25] <KrisWood> I want it to show up as a drie like hdc1 does
[08:25] <freddyubuntu> I think open office math is just for writing forumals , not to draw graphs ... am I right?
[08:25] <KrisWood> drive*
[08:25] <garryfre> It would be neat to have a naming contest for the next after the next ubuntu version and the winner gets a neat pin or tee shirt with a nice logo and background from ubuntu
[08:25] <ic56> KrisWood: (assuming you already created a `music' subdirectory.  If you just want hdb1 to show up on your desktop, the omit the "music" parts.  Ah, ok.  The GUI method makes it look like a drive.  Do this:
[08:25] <skavenge> garryfre; good idea
[08:25] <garryfre> It would creates some neat interest. Thanks skavenge
[08:25] <Dad> I need help... please
[08:26] <ic56> KrisWood: right click on the item in Computer>Places, select "copy".  Right click on your desktop, select "paste".
[08:26] <skavenge> they should have little stuffed animals they send with every cd haha
[08:26] <garryfre> Ok, dad, thou you pased away I'll try to help.
[08:26] <cat> damn
[08:26] <ic56> KrisWood: that should do it.
[08:26] <garryfre> Not to joke much about it.
[08:26] <freddyubuntu> who was the person who told me I can draw graphs with o.office math ?
[08:26] <KrisWood> ok thanks
[08:26] <rjian> how can i share internet connection using two internet network cards??
[08:26] <KrisWood> it's got a lock floating above it, what does that mean?
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> Ah well... I'm burning precous playing time. I'm off to play WoW
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> from the shell... *.*
[08:27] <afflux> have phun JairunCaloth ;)
[08:27] <KrisWood> and how do I get rid of the symlink?
[08:27] <ic56> KrisWood: it means you dont' have write perm on that.  You're not root and that's an entire filesystem.  Ordinary users don't normally get access to entire filesystems.  You can change that for the particular FS, if you want to..
[08:28] <SD> does anyone know how to stop apt-get updates from hosing my grub menu.lst file?
[08:28] <garryfre> Drag to trash, right click and delete, rm symlinkname either should work.
[08:28] <KrisWood> ic56: I already changed the user and group to mine
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> ahhh shit...
[08:28] <KrisWood> but the lock is still there
[08:28] <ic56> KrisWood: remove symlink (assuming you created it as ~/Desktop/hdb1) rm ~/Desktop/hdb1
[08:28] <freddyubuntu> the person who told me I can draw math graphs with open office was wrong...
[08:29] <rjian> how can i share internet connection using two internet network cards??
[08:29] <ic56> KrisWood: let me check on that lock thingy
[08:29] <KrisWood> ok
[08:29] <Dad> garryfre, u living?
[08:30] <garryfre> Dad Yes.
[08:30] <KrisWood> rjian: you will need to set up a firewall of some sort, I recommend firestarter
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> now the script dosn't do sound at all
[08:30] <JairunCaloth> I started messing around with permisions
[08:30] <KrisWood> rjian: you can also use iptables but it's a pain to set up if you're not familiar with routing
[08:30] <Dad> garryfre, were you going to help me?
[08:30] <KrisWood> how do I remove a symlink? I tried to delete it in nautilus and nothing happened
[08:31] <garryfre> say Dad ask the question to all, better chance too get an answer. If I know I'll try to help.
[08:31] <garryfre> Dad ask the question to all, better chance too get an answer. If I know I'll try to help.
[08:31] <garryfre> Maybe try remove to trash?
[08:32] <KrisWood> garryfre: no change
[08:32] <KrisWood> ok rm worked
[08:32] <ic56> KrisWood: remove symlink (assuming you created it as ~/Desktop/hdb1) rm ~/Desktop/hdb1
[08:32] <rjian> kriswood: i am a direct connected to internet and workstation.. how will i share my internet connection?
[08:33] <Dad> as previously asked... I have a cable router that goes to a wireless router. They seem to bridge just fine with the cable router as the primary. My problem is that one day I was unable to connect my laptop to the wireless.
[08:33] <garryfre> KrisWood my last guess is sudo rm filename wher ethe file name is the name of symlink. Hehe, I see ye got it.
[08:33] <BlueEagle> dad: did you doublecheck !wireless ?
[08:33] <BlueEagle> !wireless
[08:33] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:34] <KrisWood> rjian: assuming you have two network cards and eth0 is plugged into the internet and eth1 is plugged into your network, you need a firewall of some sort to route data to the correct places. A good one is firestarter. Just install it and your connection sharing will start automagicly.
[08:34] <rjian> ah ok.. wait ill try it thnx
[08:34] <Dad> BlueEagle, I used the cutter thing ( I said it had been working ) for over a month
[08:35] <KrisWood> rjian: My own network has eth1 plugged into the net and eth0 plugged into the lan, so it only required a little extra configuration to work.
[08:35] <garryfre> I wonder if there is a way to change the colors of private messages sent. it is hard to see my outgoing messages. I looked atpreferences colors for xchat, and it din't seem to be user friendly.
[08:35] <sloncho> someone installed mythtv on 6.03?
[08:35] <BlueEagle> garryfre: irssi is better for that imo. :)
[08:36] <garryfre> Thanks, Ill check it out right away.
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> if I were to install something like vmware, and installed Windows inside of it....would that expose me to the various security issues Windows brings with it, or would running it inside Ubuntu shield me from some of those problems?
[08:37] <BlueEagle> anyways I need to head over to work. You all have a pleasant day. :)
[08:38] <ic56> KrisWood: no luck on figuring out how to remove the lock overlay from the disk icon.  Sorry.  ttyl
[08:39] <KrisWood> thanks ic56 :)
[08:39] <konfuzed> hey there a quick question about bios settings.  Should Plug and Play AWARE OS be on or off ??
[08:40] <BlueEagle> garryfre: You will be able to contract all sorts of viruses when running windows in wmware. Especially if you're not careful with how and what you give wmware access to read/write. Ie. if you mount / as read/write in wmware and the directories in /home are writable by the group users you might infect all documents of all users.
[08:40] <ic56> KrisWood: yw!  It's really wierd helping someone try to emulate a Windows environment so closely.  I would have never thought to pursue these things -- I don't think of my system as a collection of drives but as a single directory tree.  The music is one place, the backups elsewhere.
[08:40] <BlueEagle> konfuzed: linux is plug-and-pray aware afaik.
[08:41] <konfuzed> that does not nescsarily mean that it is better to have it on
[08:41] <garryfre> say BlueEagle Hmmm, I don't use vmware at all. Must have been a mistell
[08:41] <Geoffrey2> garryfre, I think that response was intended for me :)
[08:41] <sagarp> for some reason, the themes dont correctly apply..when i select a gtk theme, it looks just like clearlooks
[08:41] <KrisWood> ic56: I'll get used to it eventually :)
[08:42] <BlueEagle> garryfre: it must have been. I guess it was supposed to be directed ag geoffrey2 :)
[08:42] <Frogzoo> konfuzed: it should be on
[08:42] <konfuzed> why thank you much
[08:42] <Lukian> garryfre: did you just attempt to type '/say' like WoW?
[08:42] <garryfre> say BlueEagle Yeah, Geo saw it and got the info. :)
[08:42] <Frogzoo> are the repos down?
[08:43] <KrisWood> ok now to figure out installing my wacom drivers
[08:43] <konfuzed> hey now that the temperature is cool out and in here I should be able to make that install happen.
[08:43] <garryfre> Some have reported timeouts getting packages tonight.
[08:43] <ic56> KrisWood: maybe you will, maybe you won't.  If you setup your system to show disk icons now, you'll continue the habit of thinking that way, so it's more likely you'll stay that way.  Anyway, it's all good -- with Linux, unlike windows, you have the option...
[08:43] <burepe2> Is there a way to convert ogg to mp3 in ubuntu?
[08:43] <Frogzoo> garryfre: yep, guess I'll try later
[08:43] <harry> does firestarter automatically runs when the system starts??/
[08:43] <KrisWood> yup :)
[08:43] <konfuzed> I bought a box at a yard sale for $10 today
[08:43] <garryfre> !wacom
[08:43] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[08:44] <harry> does firestarter automatically runs when the system starts??/
[08:44] <Dad> thanks for helping
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> I realize those deeply immersed in GNU/Linux simply can't understand why anyone would want to sully their computers with anything Windows related...but for people like me slowly making the transition from Windows to Linux, there's simply some programs I want to be able to keep using that require Windows support in some way
[08:44] <garryfre> I would gess it would harry, any firewall worth its bits sets up to start automatically.
[08:45] <konfuzed> pros and cons to everything. AMD Pro-1400+ 20gig HD cd-rw built in sound ether video and a floppy. unfortunately an ecs motherboard
[08:45] <konfuzed> any known issues with ECS motherboards??
[08:45] <garryfre> My eyes are bad, the nickname Dad is easy to miss.
[08:45] <harry> garryfre. so after installing the firestarter i dont need to worry about anything to set it up automatically when the system starts??
[08:46] <konfuzed> I'm gonna give this one to my 5 year old daughter.
[08:46] <garryfre> They track together like two drunken bums
[08:46] <Dad> garryfre, if it will help - what do you want it to be
[08:46] <konfuzed> add the edubuntu theme and presto she is ecstatic
[08:47] <garryfre> I think I just need to pay closer attention. Anyting longer might help, but if you have a question, go ahead and ask it I'll try to watch for it.
[08:48] <garryfre> say harry Sometimes you might have to answer a few questions at first, so it learns what you want to run and what you don't want to get through.
[08:48] <Geoffrey2> !edubuntu
[08:48] <ubotu> methinks edubuntu is the education version of Ubuntu (Ubuntu + educational apps + LTSP). Channel: #edubuntu. Website - http://www.edubuntu.org. Screenshots: http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[08:48] <rjian> kriswood: ive already installed firestarter how will i config it? or do i have to config it?
[08:48] <garryfre> !LTSP
[08:48] <ubotu> well, ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project -  https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuLTSP/ (for Dapper), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  or  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[08:49] <Messagner> garryfre, I've asked twice, can you just scroll up?
[08:49] <garryfre> !firestarted
[08:49] <ubotu> garryfre: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:49] <garryfre> !firestarter
[08:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:50] <garryfre> Messagner Ok, On the right side of screen should be a vertical scroll bar with a little bar you can drag up, and an up and down pointing triangle at the top and bottom.
[08:51] <odat> hi everyone
[08:51] <garryfre> Messagner Also page up and page down works as well
[08:51] <odat> can someone send me or tell me where to get a  .rar file so i can test something
[08:51] <rjian> can anyone help me how to config firestarter?
[08:51] <Messagner> garryfre, I was telling you to do that
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> Hey
[08:52] <Eleaf> hi
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> Can someone tell them to unban me in #gentoo-ru and #gentoo?
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> I made any ass of mys elf, beting drunk.
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> :(
[08:52] <MaddMaxx> Now I cannot hangout with my russina comrades!
[08:53] <garryfre> Messagner Oh sorry. try ifconfig
[08:53] <MaddMaxx> :'(
[08:53] <reXib> can anyone here help me out with a Lilo/rEFIt problem?
[08:53] <MaddMaxx> it'suscks.
[08:53] <Messagner> garryfre, I did
[08:53] <rjian> can someone help me with share my internet connection using two land cards?
[08:53] <garryfre> mac address
[08:53] <garryfre> !mac address
[08:53] <ubotu> garryfre: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:54] <Consty> anyone know of a really good mud client for linux?  it can be console or gtk based.
[08:54] <odat> can someone send me or tell me where to get a  .rar file so i can test something
[08:54] <sagarp> anyone know why various GTK themes all look like either clearlooks or ubuntulooks?
[08:55] <konfuzed> ah crap this is a dapper DVD not a CD
[08:55] <Geoffrey2> does it make sense to run a firewall on your computer if you're behind a router with a firewall?
[08:55] <Eleaf> lol
[08:55] <rob_p> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <Eleaf> Geoffrey2, I dunno, could be good.
[08:55] <Dial_tone> why would dapper need to be on dvd? its small
[08:55] <KrisWood> can I restart X without closing my programs?
[08:55] <garryfre> say Messagner if its an external router or modem for dsl or cable, often that info is printed at the bottom of the unit on a label.
[08:55] <Eleaf> lol
[08:55] <KrisWood> or do I need to log out and back in again
[08:55] <Eleaf> KrisWood, not really
[08:56] <KrisWood> ok rebooting brb
[08:56] <Eleaf> do ctrl + alt + backspace to restart x
[08:56] <Eleaf> logout doesn't restart x
[08:56] <Dial_tone> is there a way to get xchat to remember window position when you open it?
[08:56] <MaddMaxx> Can someone tell them to unban me in #gentoo-ru and #gentoo?
[08:56] <garryfre> say Messagner Other times, one can find it by entering the ip address of the device in teh address bar of fthe browser.
[08:56] <Messagner> garryfre, What The Fuck!?!?!?
[08:56] <Messagner> as previously asked... I have a cable router that goes to a wireless router. They seem to bridge just fine with the cable router as the primary. My problem is that one day I was unable to connect my laptop to the wireless.
[08:56] <Messagner> ^exact text^
[08:57] <crimsun> cursing is unlikely to get any additional assistance any faster.
[08:57] <Eleaf> yea
[08:57] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, please join #ubuntu-ops
[08:57] <MaddMaxx> thank you!
[08:57] <MaddMaxx> You're godly!
[08:57] <Eleaf> lol ;p
[08:57] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, Fiedly is awake..
[08:58] <garryfre> Replies containing wtf cause me to forget information you are wishing me to figure out how to find out.
[08:58] <Eleaf> I'm not an op though ;)
[08:58] <crimsun> not to mention I have an extremely short fuse today, so if you feel like being obnoxious, I highly suggest you take it elsewhere.
[08:58] <MaddMaxx> Oh
[08:58] <Lukian> Is garryfre a botr?
[08:58] <Lukian> -r
[08:58] <steveO_> Mark Shuttleworth would condemn you, crimsun.
[08:58] <MaddMaxx> You shoul probably kick me  then, but htat would be mean, so don't.
[08:59] <crimsun> just be civil, and everything will be fine.
[08:59] <Messagner> crimsun, I don't know how that is obnoxious in any way - i just want help and the way garryfre responded confused the crap out of me.
[08:59] <ubynoob> anyone able to tell me how to make mplayer or realplayer my default media player on firefox ?
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, huh?
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, sorry!
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, wrong room
[08:59] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #gentoo-ops
[08:59] <Eleaf> lol.
[08:59] <garryfre> Messagner: has a fairly simple question, It eludes me at the moment, sleepy time ye know. He needs to find out what his current mack address is for  his machie. He has a cable router that goes to a wireless router than it just crashed and doesn't work any more.
[08:59] <MaddMaxx> thank you crimson
[08:59] <Eleaf> heh..
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> I joined that eleaf.
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> Thakn you for giving me that hcannel/
[09:00] <garryfre> It was just distracting.
[09:00] <Eleaf> I don't see you there MaddMaxx
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> I left.
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> After asking the mto unban me.
[09:00] <Messagner> garryfre, MAC has nothing to do with it
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> And wtf?
[09:00] <MaddMaxx> I'm actually still ther!
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> I jsur ealized it!
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> haha
[09:01] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #gentoo-ops!
[09:01] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, not ubuntu-ops
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> Oh, Iid another ops!
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> holdon
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> ahaha
[09:01] <garryfre> You said mac address. Maybe I misread your query?
[09:01] <Eleaf> lol
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> sorry, Im stpuid.
[09:01] <Eleaf> I said ubuntu-ops first on accident ;p
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> wtf?
[09:01] <KrisWood> ugh, the tablet works now but the calibration is way off and the mouse doesn't move at all :-/
[09:01] <MaddMaxx> Therei s nobody fukcing that.
[09:01] <garryfre> !language
[09:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:01] <konfuzed> ok so I just happen to find an official packaged ubuntu version 5.10 with live cd and install cd. how easy is that to upgrade to dapper? maybe it would be better to download a newer dapper cd image and burn it with Nero, then do the install?  any recommednations or thoughts?
[09:02] <MaddMaxx> Sorry for mylanguage
[09:02] <crimsun> konfuzed: you'll download roughly the same amount
[09:02] <Lukian> konfuzed: think about it real hard too :)
[09:02] <konfuzed> once or twice?
[09:02] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #ubuntu-ops
[09:02] <Eleaf> lol
[09:02] <Eleaf> omg!!
[09:02] <Eleaf> not there
[09:02] <garryfre> I know you are frustrated, I'm sleepy maybe I'm too sleepy to help you as you deserve. Someone else maybe?
[09:02] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, join #gentoo-ops
[09:02] <Eleaf> gentoo-ops....
[09:03] <MaddMaxx> haha
[09:03] <crimsun> konfuzed: well, once, I presume, unless you want to install 5.10 then dist-upgrade to 6.06 /then/ download 6.06 and reinstall it?
[09:03] <MaddMaxx> You're just fucking around with me.
[09:03] <MaddMaxx> Youshodulnt'fuck around with drunkeez, it's mean! :'(
[09:03] <B1zz> ...
[09:03] <Eleaf> ??
[09:03] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, seriously, join #gentoo-ops..
[09:03] <disinterested> my stupid webcam isnt listed is there any way to get it to work?
[09:03] <Eleaf> if you want to ask a question
[09:03] <Dial_tone> if you haven't installed at all i would just get a new iso; upgrade might no twork
[09:03] <Madpilot> Eleaf, please don't send people to #ubuntu-ops - thanks...
[09:04] <MaddMaxx> grr, elaf, there is nobody tehre
[09:04] <Eleaf> Madpilot, why?..
[09:04] <Eleaf> MaddMaxx, #gentoo-ops
[09:04] <Eleaf> type this
[09:04] <Eleaf>  /join #gentoo-ops
[09:04] <garryfre> Madpilot Madmaxx is spewing profanity. I can understand it while frustrated, but he's just doing it to be annoying.
[09:04] <konfuzed> is the dist-upgrade to 6.06 easy or a pain in the ass that would be avoided by just downloading the dapper to start with
[09:04] <Eleaf> Madpilot, sorry, I was trying to send him to gentoo-ops.
[09:04] <dragoon> konfuzed: easy
[09:04] <Eleaf> Madpilot, whenever I try and say gentoo, I say ubuntu, I'm addicted!
[09:05] <s|k> how do I install fluxbox on ubuntu?
[09:05] <MaddMaxx> I'm still here.
[09:05] <MaddMaxx> lol
[09:05] <garryfre> I hate that when that happens
[09:05] <dragoon> s|k: apt-get install fluxbox
[09:05] <crimsun> s|k: apt-get install fluxbox (after enabling universe)
[09:05] <konfuzed> oh i may aswell do the dist upgrade path then
[09:05] <garryfre> saying one word when I mean another.
[09:05] <Madpilot> MaddMaxx, last and only warning: watch the language, OK?
[09:05] <s|k> crimsun: will that show up autoatically as a session I can log into?
[09:06] <crimsun> s|k: purportedly, but as I haven't installed it under Dapper, I can't confirm.
[09:06] <Eleaf> Madpilot, is it night where you are?
[09:06] <KrisWood> does anyone know how I can calibrate my tablet for use with ubuntu?
[09:06] <Madpilot> Eleaf, yes, just past midnight - why?
[09:06] <MaddMaxx> I didn't do any bad lnauge.
[09:06] <s|k> crimsun: I'll try it, thanks :)
[09:06] <s|k> dragoon: thank you too :)
[09:06] <Geoffrey2> konfuzed, I personally subscribe to the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) principle...to me, installing an operating system just so I can install an update on top of it seems a lot more complicated than just installing the up-to-date system from scratch
[09:06] <kevin> MaddMaxx, you did
[09:07] <crimsun> Messagner: is the issue still occurring?
[09:07] <Messagner> crimsun, yea
[09:07] <Eleaf> Madpilot, where do you live?
[09:07] <Madpilot> Eleaf, western Canada - BC
[09:07] <crimsun> Messagner: I presume you've verified that you're using the appropriate credentials, etc.?
[09:08] <garryfre> Messagner: Ok, you asked to find the mac address for your system. That's not the same as a macintosh, its an anachronysm. I've forgotten what mac stands for but it is a network thing rather like an IP address. I think every network card made has a built in unique mac address.
[09:08] <Messagner> yea
[09:08] <Eleaf> Madpilot, oh cool, where in BC?
[09:08] <Lukian> can someone ban garryfre? It's failing it's job as a useful bot (the only kind?)
[09:08] <Messagner> garryfre, I want my wireless working, I don't care what MAC it has anymore - that was something else
[09:08] <Madpilot> Eleaf, Victoria
[09:08] <crimsun> Messagner: can you verify on the AP side that the AP is actually seeing the requests? (hopefully you've got a wired LAN connection to the wifi "router", too...)
[09:08] <garryfre> LoL
[09:09] <Madpilot> garryfre, are you a bot?
[09:09] <Lukian> It doesn't give me a version reply
[09:09] <Messagner> crimsun, sorry u lost me
[09:10] <garryfre> Madpilot Nope, I'm garry freemyer, I live in paradise CA
[09:10] <crimsun> Messagner: some APs have a management interface accessible via HTTP. Does your AP have wired ethernet (802.11) ports, too?
[09:10] <crimsun> sorry, 802.3
[09:10] <Eleaf> Madpilot, cool, I've been there a few times.  My grandma/aunts live in Vancouver..
[09:10] <Messagner> yea
[09:11] <Lukian> garryfre: what client are you using?
[09:11] <Eleaf> Victoria is a nice town..
[09:11] <garryfre> xchat
[09:11] <Madpilot> garryfre, just checking, after Lukian's complaint :)
[09:11] <Madpilot> Eleaf, it is - but we should move to -offtopic if you just want to chat
[09:11] <garryfre> say Madpilot hehe.
[09:11] <Messagner> Airport Extreme uses a utility to edit configuration, no web interface, but I can connect to it from here
[09:11] <crimsun> Messagner: can you use the 802.3 ports to check if the AP is actually seeing the association/authorisation requests?
[09:11] <Lukian> Madpilot: sorry about that, it seemed to speak pretty damned close to a bot :/
[09:11] <Lukian> (and it still could be)
[09:11] <Eleaf> Madpilot, I"m there... lol
[09:12] <garryfre> Yeah, I used to live in Vancouver. The papermills really stunk at the time, made the air brown and felt like living on mars.
[09:12] <Messagner> crimsun, I have no idea, I don't know what AP is though
[09:12] <B1zz> nice!
[09:12] <B1zz> mars
[09:12] <Lukian> Madpilot: perhaps it would fall under the category of 'trolling' ? :D
[09:12] <Eleaf> ?
[09:12] <garryfre> Messagner: I found your question I need help getting my wireless to work. I am using an Airport Extreme and Ubuntu laptop. I have had this working b4. I don' tknow the answer. I gatehr that it stopped working after a crash?
[09:13] <Madpilot> Lukian, what? Getting you confused so you think a user is a bot counts as trolling?
[09:13] <Madpilot> :)
[09:13] <Lukian> Madpilot: yes indeed
[09:13] <Lukian> Madpilot: It's replies are obscurely related, possibly pattern matching
[09:13] <MaddMaxx> hrmm
[09:13] <garryfre> I think it is amusing, that I've been staring at the bot's answers so long, I'm beginning to sound like it. Doh!
[09:14] <B1zz> heheh
[09:14] <Madpilot> Lukian, that hardly counts as trolling - and if garryfre is a bot, he/it is making more sense than some people manage to here ;)
[09:14] <Lukian> Madpilot: lmao, good point
[09:14] <MaddMaxx> God save the queen! ^_^
[09:14] <Lukian> ok, perhaps it is more beneficial than most of the users in here :)
[09:15] <amk-sep> i cnat play mpeg files in totem i got the messge: ** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg
[09:15] <garryfre> Its probably the Klonopin I"m taking for incurable insomnia. some times it take a few weeks to take effect. j/k
[09:15] <Dial_tone> make sure you have the right plugins installed
[09:15] <crimsun> Messagner: "AP" is "access point"
[09:15] <kinection> hello, has anybody got xgl/compiz to work in here? I'm wondering how i would know if compiz was running or not. if i could `ps aux` and see it
[09:15] <Messagner> ok
[09:16] <amk-sep> DIAL_tone: how can i do that?
[09:16] <Messagner> crimsun, I started running some commands from CL and it seems to have started working
[09:16] <Ackeubu_> hey i need a piano synth is there a app for that?
[09:16] <crimsun> Messagner: ok
[09:17] <amk-sep> what is needed to play mpeg in totem
[09:17] <garryfre> There is an easybuntu script I tried it yesterday and it installed all kinds of missing codecs and I was able to play my videos, mpegs, and mp3 stuff. A google of easybuntu shows a list of places to get it. Be sure to get one that works for dapper or breezy if you have that.
[09:17] <Lukian> kinection: #ubuntu-xgl, and yes, it would be compiz.real
[09:17] <odat> can someone send me or tell me where to get a  .rar file so i can test something
[09:17] <Messagner> crimsun, I lied, it's showing 100% signal, but I'm getting no internet
[09:17] <Lukian> garryfre: do you have a database of answers at your disposal?
[09:17] <kinection> Lukian: thanks. because that's not showing up :(. i'll go there now
[09:17] <B1zz> odat read your pms
[09:17] <bud> does anybody know how to add irc as a protocol in firefox
[09:17] <B1zz> pm's*
[09:17] <tb77> amk-sep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <amk-sep> garryfre:  thx
[09:18] <tb77> odat: try google
[09:18] <garryfre> Hmm, no.. Welcome Amk.
[09:18] <amk-sep> ok ill try
[09:18] <Lukian> :D
[09:18] <crimsun> Messagner: you said it's an "Airport Extreme"?
[09:18] <odat> tb77, i did can't find any
[09:18] <Lukian> thx garryfre
[09:18] <Messagner> crimsun, yea
[09:18] <crimsun> Messagner: I'm not familiar w/ the innards of that AP, but have you looked on the wiki and forums?
[09:18] <Eleaf> I love airport extreme
[09:19] <Eleaf> crimsun, it's a mac
[09:19] <odat> B1zz, why you have one to send?
[09:19] <tb77> odat: search "test : rar" first link
[09:19] <Eleaf> crimsun, airport extreme is apple's wireless card.
[09:19] <B1zz> yes i can send one
[09:19] <Messagner> crimsun, I can't navigate those ery well, but I haven't found anything close
[09:19] <garryfre> say Lukian Hmm, I don't remember doing anything helpful but who knows I'm getting pretty rummy.
[09:19] <Lukian> garryfre: could you please stop saying 'say' or at least add a colon or comma?
[09:20] <Eleaf> say.. lol
[09:20] <Eleaf> say; Lukian I think it's cool.
[09:20] <garryfre> You mean I keep forgeting to put the /say instead of say. Sorry bout that I keep doing it and its probably more annoying to me than it is to you. I hate it when I keep doing the same mistake.
[09:21] <B1zz> did you get that odat?
[09:21] <Eleaf> say, B1zz how are you?
[09:21] <odat> yeah thanx guys
[09:21] <garryfre> Blzz how are you?
[09:21] <B1zz> im fine....
[09:21] <Lukian> garryfre: what's your first language?
[09:21] <garryfre> hehe
[09:21] <garryfre> English.
[09:22] <garryfre> Maybe I have been reading too much star trek about vulcans.
[09:22] <Consty> Anyone know of a really good MUD client for console or GTK?
[09:22] <efox_> what's a good antivirus and firewall to get ?
[09:22] <kevin> That is my only language lol...... That is why I would make a poor support person, one language and too many other panguages out there to make me effective
[09:22] <garryfre> firestarter
[09:22] <Madpilot> efox_, you dont' really need either for Ubuntu
[09:22] <B1zz> does it seem weird that Eleaf and garryfre both asked me same question prettymuch at same time?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> no need for antivirus nmor firewall for a normal user
[09:23] <SurfnKid> is there a way to increase the font in elinks?
[09:23] <efox_> Madpilot: i know, since mose virus are intented for windows
[09:23] <Lukian> blzz: yes, we are trying to figure out if it passes the turing test
[09:23] <Eleaf> say, that is kinda funky B1zz
[09:23] <efox_> however, i would like to have a firewall
[09:23] <Madpilot> efox_, exactly
[09:23] <garryfre> I did it deliberately for fun as I had been accused of being a bot.
[09:23] <Eleaf> lol
[09:23] <Madpilot> efox_, Firestarter is in Universe repo
[09:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell efox_ -about firewall
[09:23] <garryfre> Not that I minded.
[09:23] <Eleaf> garryfre,
[09:23] <Eleaf> universe repo?
[09:23] <Eleaf> OH UNIVERSE
[09:24] <gnomefreak> garryfre: jopin #ubuntu-offtopic for general convo
[09:24] <gnomefreak> s/jopin/join
[09:25] <q_a_z_steve> what does torsmo do?
[09:25] <garryfre> Sigh, first I stay on topic and get a bit terse in my replies and am accuse of being abot, then when I start acting more flexible and less stilted I'm counceled for being off topic. Yeesh, I just can't win, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't.
[09:26] <garryfre> !torsmo
[09:26] <ubotu> garryfre: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:26] <q_a_z_steve> !torsmo
[09:26] <Messagner> crimsun, if I had to guess, I would guess that my wireless s trying to act as a bridge only, that seems to be causing issues, but I changed the rate to 11M and my WEP from 40 to 128 and i think that fixed it. But my laptop is about to die and will probably not work after I restart. Not only that, but I still can't ping one computer on wireless from one computer of wired or vise versa, so the wireless definetly isn't acting like a bridge
[09:27] <efox_> oh, another thing ive been trying to figure out, is..how do you open files in terminal ?
[09:27] <efox_> like an openoffice document
[09:27] <johnZay> Hi.. My  whole files system keeps becoming read-only all of a sudden and then works when I reboot. Anyone know what could be wrong?
[09:27] <fr500> hello
[09:27] <crimsun> Messagner: well, I do know that the native bcm43xx driver has issues
[09:27] <efox_> i tried so many different commands, but nothing seems to open them
[09:27] <garryfre> I spent five hours today fighting a wireless modem and router, on a lap top. got nothing but sore eyes reading horribly writting instructions and help files.
[09:27] <crimsun> Messagner: I'm not entirely sure that's relevant to your use case, however
[09:27] <efox_> crimsun: sweet...join the club
[09:27] <fr500> is there a way to make epilicious work in dapper?
[09:27] <Messagner> crimsun, actually, I can ping my wireless, but not my desktop
[09:28] <garryfre> So, I understand how that felt. I felt like using the router for a frisbee.
[09:28] <sacrum> hey, folks.  I'm interested in installing ubuntu on my iMac G5.  I can't tell from the hardware list and from Google searches whether the G5 architecture is supported or not.  Anyone have any idea what's going on in that department?
[09:28] <Madpilot> efox_, try 'man openoffice' - I think that'll work to get you the manual file for OOo
[09:28] <efox_> Madpilot: you are my linux guru...thanks
[09:28] <Madpilot> efox_, no, I just fake it, and answer the easy questions ;)
[09:29] <johnZay> Hi.. My  whole files system keeps becoming read-only all of a sudden and then works when I reboot. Anyone know what could be wrong?
[09:29] <garryfre> I'd just back up your mac stuff and try it. It would be intresting to see if it works o a Mac G5.
[09:29] <garryfre> Is it ntfs?
[09:29] <sacrum> garryfre: That is not the answer I was looking for. ;)
[09:29] <johnZay> nope... its full on eraed by the xubuntu installer
[09:30] <johnZay> *erased
[09:30] <stephan__> anyone able to get azurues to work with dapper
[09:30] <Messagner> crimsun, thanks for helping, I think the real problem is that Apple suck because they don't believe in norms, simplicity, or anything that works
[09:30] <sacrum> garryfre: I'm not sure if you're talking to me or johnZay re: the ntfs bit, but I'm pretty sure Tiger uses ext3
[09:30] <garryfre> Sacrum ok, Ill google for it. Do you wish to try installing dapper or breezy?
[09:31] <sacrum> garry: dapper.  I'd tried googling myself and was getting conflicting information on whether or not it worked, and I couldn't tell by the way things were dated whether or not the problems that were happening to these people were problems that were addressed or not.
[09:32] <sacrum> er, I've got one too many "or not"s up there, but I think you know what I mean.
[09:33] <fr500> johnZay: messed up hd
[09:33] <mattsches> quit
[09:33] <fr500> johnZay: do you see hdd errors on dmesg?
[09:33] <wickedpuppy> stephan__, i am using azureus now
[09:33] <Locke_> w00t
[09:33] <Locke_> i got Xgl in ubuntu 6.06 now :)
[09:33] <Hajuu> hey! how does one install a new font?
[09:33] <Hajuu> :D
[09:34] <transgress> how unstable is XGL at this point?
[09:34] <stephan__> wickedpup, with dapper....how so.... mine always freezes
[09:34] <Locke_> seems ok so far
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> stephan__, azureus is java app ... nothing to do with OS ... it runs on the JVM
[09:34] <transgress> wickedpuppy: you using the binary from the repos or are you using the .tar.gz one?
[09:34] <Madpilot> Hajuu, stick it in ~/.fonts is the easiest way to do it
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> transgress, i always get it from the sourceforge
[09:34] <kevin> wickedpuppy, I use it too, slows things down cos of Java but I do use it
[09:34] <gnomefreak> transgress: pretty unstable IMHO and last i heard they are looking at summer of 2007 before it becomes stable
[09:35] <garryfre> sacrum: Yeah, I looked using makc g5 ubuntu dapper and got a lot of bug reports. Sounds risky, like it won't work. One said it didn't like the video card on the mac g5, they all referrred to imac g5. Is that the same as a mac g5?
[09:35] <transgress> gnomefreak: okay.  i was just wondering.  i don't have a great urge to use it.
[09:35] <stephan__> wickedpup, ok will i could get it to work just fine in 5.1 but in dapper its not working
[09:35] <transgress> stephan__: works for me too... i just downloaded it and am using blackdown java
[09:35] <stephan__> wickedpup, it freezes up and wont load...i think its something to do with the java like u said
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> stephan__, download it from sourceforge and try ?
[09:36] <transgress> stephan__: if you are using the sf one... try using the apt one... if you don't mind downloading mozilla-browser
[09:36] <transgress> i mind downloading mozilla-browser myself... hence i use sourceforge's
[09:37] <fr500> stephan__: the latest azureus build seems screwed
[09:37] <fr500> hangs for me too
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> agreed with fr500
[09:37] <sacrum> garryfre: Basically.  There's two different flavors of G5 out there -- one's a dual-CPU job that sits in a regular box like a PC, and the other's this gorgeous but temperamental flat-panel single unit, single processor thing.  The latter's usually what people mean when they say "iMac G5"
[09:37] <wickedpuppy> try with the previous version ....
[09:37] <stephan__> hmm...im checking my java right now
[09:37] <johnZay> What would happen if I mounted an ext3 partition as ext2?
[09:37] <KrisWood> hi everyone
[09:37] <mattsches> hi everyone, I've got problems with my dvdrom drive ... everytime i insert a cd/dvd, ubuntu freezes ... also doesn't boot up when a disc is in the drive
[09:37] <transgress> hey gnomefreak you seem knowledgable... do you use gnome-deskbar?
[09:37] <KrisWood> I am trying to get my intuos3 tablet working properly
[09:38] <stephan__> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> transgress: i used to
[09:38] <fr500> johnZay: so?? did it work
[09:38] <stephan__> thats the only one i have
[09:38] <garryfre> sacrum Well , good luck with whatever you try.
[09:38] <sacrum> garryfre: Thank you so much for trying to help me out.  I'll probably stay away from ubuntu until braver souls have traveled down these roads ahead of me :)
[09:38] <KrisWood> my stylus works but the mouse doesn't move, and the pad buttons don't do anything
[09:38] <transgress> gnomefreak: not anymore?  i was wanting help on configuring it.  the shortcut to switch to it is <alt>s by default, do you happen to know what it is to make it alt+space?
[09:38] <sacrum> Thanks!  And, again, thanks for your help.
[09:38] <johnZay> ooh sorry i didnt see yer messages... Ii'll let ya know in a few mins
[09:38] <fr500> sacrum: what was your issue just for curiosity
[09:38] <gnomefreak> transgress: no udev is messed up on this pc and it removed gnome
[09:38] <johnZay> gotota hook it up to a monitor
[09:39] <garryfre> sacrum yeah, braver users can play the guinea pigs.
[09:39] <mattsches> could it be a problem of hald or dbus? 'cause that's where the boot process stops
[09:39] <KrisWood> also I'd like to be able to configure my second button on the sylus to be middle mouse, does anyone have any ideas how to configure a tablet for ubuntu?
[09:39] <sacrum> fr500, I'm trying to figure out if ubuntu will work on my iMac G5 before I get all rambo and install it.
[09:39] <fr500> sacrum: rambo way is cool
[09:40] <Hajuu> hey hey! how does one install a new font?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> sacrum: yes the ppc version should run fine on a g5
[09:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Hajuu -about fonts
[09:40] <fr500> transgress: problems with deskbar?
[09:40] <mattsches> the drive does work properly when i boot knoppix
[09:41] <sacrum> fr500, if I only had the spare time to be that brave, I'd try it.
[09:41] <fr500> hehe
[09:41] <transgress> fr500: i just want to know how to make the shortcut to switch to it <Alt><Space> instead of <Alt>s
[09:41] <garryfre> Hey, sacrum You could try the live cd as a test to see if it has a chance of working.
[09:41] <sacrum> gnomefreak, the reason I'd asked was because it wasn't listed on the support page and because, when I'd googled it, I found all sorts of scary scariness.
[09:41] <sacrum> oo!  I forgot all about live cds.  that's a good idea.
[09:42] <fr500> transgress: there is an option in properties
[09:42] <garryfre> mea culpa, I forgot it too.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> sacrum: assuming when you say g5 that would be the g5 processer (cant remember when they changed to intel)
[09:42] <transgress>   fr500 i know, but i don't know what to put.  it doesn't give choices, it just lets you type... and i've tried <Alt><Space>
[09:42] <sacrum> gnomefreak, yeah.
[09:42] <fr500> oh
[09:43] <transgress> fr500: and <Ctrl><Space> since alt+space seems to open the menu bars on gnome windows
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sacrum: works fine on a g processers
[09:43] <sacrum> (They changed to intel about a month after I plunked down the money for this damned thing, after viciously denying rumor after rumor about it.  I was NOT happy.  But that's another story.)
[09:43] <KrisWood> sorry to spam the same question over and over but could  anyone help me configure my intuos3 tablet for use in ubuntu?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sacrum: they only real lack of support for ppc and 64bit is the non-free things
[09:43] <fr500> KrisWood: didi you look at the wiki?
[09:43] <skavenge> so new imacs run the x86 version instead of ppc now?
[09:44] <garryfre> I think they changed to intels about May 2005, the month I lost my programming job to a hostile takeover. ;-/
[09:44] <gnomefreak> skavenge: should but that im not sure about
[09:44] <skavenge> interesting
[09:44] <sacrum> garry: ouch :(
[09:44] <stephan__> /usr/bin/azureus: line 34: exec: java: not found
[09:44] <ZDUX> can I ask for some help installing openssh-server I'm getting an error message
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: and the error might be?
[09:44] <garryfre> yep
[09:44] <stephan__> /usr/bin/azureus: line 34: exec: java: not found ; i get the when running azuerurs
[09:45] <ZDUX> Error message installing openssh-server:   Depends: openssh-client (=1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1) but 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:45] <sacrum> garry: I have a ghastly code-monkey job writing COBOL (I do wish I were kidding) code for an insurance company.  It's absolutely mind-numbing.
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: what version of ubuntu?
[09:45] <transgress> fr500: any clue what it would be besides <Space> ?
[09:45] <garryfre> Yep, Cobil, is like the chinese water drop on the forehead torture.
[09:45] <garryfre> er cobol
[09:45] <KrisWood> fr500: yes but it didn't help much, I'm reading a post on the forums now about it but it doesn't cover my specific issue of the mouse not working, or configuring specific buttons
[09:45] <fr500> just press the spacebar
[09:46] <sacrum> The main reason I started considering the *nix stuff was just to try to get some kind of reasonable skill set under my belt so I don't have to spend the rest of my life coding on a mainframe.
[09:46] <fr500> KrisWood: i have on but i havent used it yet
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: also are you mixing your repos? either way please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin
[09:46] <garryfre> Or spendng thousands lining bill gate's pockets with licensing fees.
[09:46] <sacrum> For real!
[09:47] <skavenge> there's something to be said for some intellectual stimulation working on your OS versus being spoonfed what the 'average user' needs as well
[09:47] <ZDUX> sorry I'm pretty new to linux, I don't know the command to get the version number. I think it is version 6.06
[09:47] <sacrum> I imagine the licensing bits will only get progressively nastier with time, too.
[09:48] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: lsb_release -a   is the command
[09:48] <Xorph> ZDUX, uname -r i think
[09:48] <gnomefreak> Xorph: i didnt ask for the kernel
[09:48] <ZDUX> Thanks,,  version 6.06 LTS
[09:48] <stephan__> ok i selected a new java and now it just freezes
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: ok type the command i give you as i type it
[09:49] <garryfre> My next job was debugging an app that made reports froma  database. The owner was too parnanoid to give me the passwords for the database, so I could not test, or run the  program, and they would not provide sample data. Well, sleepy time for me. Gnight all.
[09:49] <fr500> stephan__: i meant, the azureus build is broken
[09:49] <fr500> java is fine
[09:49] <ZDUX> uname: 2.6.15-25-386
[09:49] <sacrum> garryfre, ha!  Oh, that sounds like a lovely job.
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"    please type that as i did
[09:49] <sacrum> Good night!  And again, thanks for the help!
[09:49] <stephan__> fr500, so what shouldi do then
[09:49] <stephan__> fr500, get an older version?
[09:49] <fr500> get another azures build
[09:49] <garryfre> sacrumn hehe, yep. sure ws. Welcome, thanks for chatting.
[09:50] <sacrum> Okay.  One more question about all this business and I'm out of here myself for a while.
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: let me know when the file opens
[09:50] <ZDUX> it is opened
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ok hold onto it for a min
[09:51] <transgress> fr500: yeah didn't work.
[09:51] <sacrum> How, exactly, does one get involved with . . . participating with open source programming?  I can code but I'm new to all this new-fangled unix business -- like I said, I spend eight hours a day staring at a little green terminal.
[09:51] <transgress> anyone know how to change the hotkey for deskbar to <ctrl><space> or <alt><space>?
[09:51] <ZDUX> I changed the sources file, what I am trying to do is intall mythtv. I followed some directions I found online. These prompted me to wget a new sources list,, I have the old one backed up
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: can you paste the contents of that file onto this webpage and hit send please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:51] <KrisWood> is there a more full featured audio/video player for ubuntu? something more like windows media player, winamp, or itunes?
[09:52] <skavenge> xmms, beep player
[09:52] <fr500> KrisWood: amarok? i think
[09:52] <ZDUX> gnomefreak, thanks
[09:52] <fr500> transgress: though luck
[09:52] <KrisWood> I'm using xmms right now it's not really as advanced as I'd like
[09:52] <KrisWood> I'll try amarok
[09:52] <KrisWood> and beep player too
[09:52] <kevin> KrisWood, I use Mplayer
[09:52] <transgress> fr500: taha found it
[09:53] <Xorph> may try vlc
[09:53] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: I sent it
[09:53] <skavenge> i prefer beep myself, its alot like xmms but a bit more advanced/cleaner looking, but that depends on the skin as well obviously
[09:53] <sacrum> hmm, okay.  time for bed.
[09:53] <sacrum> good night, folks.  thanks for the help!
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: can i have the page it brought you to?
[09:53] <transgress> victory
[09:53] <KrisWood> Xorph: I hate vlc, it's almost as bad as mpc
[09:54] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: the url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15888
[09:54] <transgress> KrisWood: there is something wrong with you.
[09:54] <KrisWood> Why? :-/
[09:54] <KrisWood> I like feature creep in an audio/video player that's all
[09:54] <KrisWood> :p
[09:54] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: ok give me a mininute i have to do something real fast adn than ill look at it
[09:54] <Gradius9> hello
[09:55] <KrisWood> Well I checked itunes, no linux port :-(
[09:55] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: thanks a bunch!
[09:55] <KrisWood> what's the pakage name for beep player?
[09:55] <Locke_> holy shit
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: remove the word breezy from all the repos and put the word dapper in its place than hit save than close than type sudo apt-get -update in a trerminal
[09:55] <gnomefreak> now i brb
[09:55] <Locke_> i can play ff5j in zsnes while running Xgl, and i can move the window wobbly like while controlling the game with my gamepad
[09:56] <rjian> i need help sharing my internet connection can anyone help me?
[09:56] <transgress> rjian: purchase a router
[09:56] <Gradius9> Running an headless machine, with ubuntu... did all the updates, but now I can not access it via vnc (only ssh), maybe there are some dialogs that stops the flow of the start up?
[09:56] <rjian> transgress: im using 2 internet card.. do u know how to config share my connection?
[09:56] <Locke_> hell i can hold the window while rotating desktops while playing the game
[09:57] <Locke_> not that i could actually do anyitng with that unless i had 3 hands
[09:57] <Locke_> but
[09:57] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: does this include breezy-security to dapper-security  ?
[09:57] <Locke_> the capability is there
[09:57] <redblades> Hi, can someone tell me of a way to backup my DVDs to my hardrive?
[09:57] <kevin> redblades, I had a friend show me that with transcode
[09:58] <fr500> KrisWood: there is a XUL based player similar to itunes
[09:58] <fr500> probably works in linux
[09:58] <kevin> Happy Fathers day to those is Noth America
[09:58] <fr500> banshee plays video but it's not video ready yet as for interface
[09:59] <mheath> kevin, those in North America are mostly too asleep to appreciate the remark :)
[09:59] <fr500> Gradius9: ask a question :p
[09:59] <KrisWood> fr500: thanks :)
[09:59] <kevin> heh mheath I am there
[09:59] <rjian> im using 2 network card how can i share my internet connection??
[09:59] <Gradius9> fr500: ?
[09:59] <fr500> KrisWood: songbirdnest
[10:00] <kevin> rjian, if someone knows they will answer
[10:00] <steveO_> How would one setup a crontab to mail me on the 19th of every month, doesn't matter at what time...?
[10:00] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: does this include breezy-security to dapper-security  ?
[10:00] <LoneShadow> rjian: whom are you trying to share the internet with ?
[10:00] <fr500> Gradius9: Running an headless machine, with ubuntu... did all the updates, but now I can not access it via vnc (only ssh), maybe there are some dialogs that stops the flow of the start up? thats not a question
[10:00] <rjian> loneshadow: on the workstation..
[10:00] <redblades> kevin? I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[10:00] <fr500> Gradius9: did you set ur gdm for auto login?
[10:00] <Gradius9> fr500: yes
[10:00] <kevin> redblades, you can back up DVD using Transcode
[10:01] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: yes
[10:01] <gnomefreak> ZDUX: you _dont_ want breezy repos on a dapper version
[10:01] <Gradius9> I am into the machine... there is maybe just to login to the desktop via ssh, but I do not know how to do that
[10:01] <fr500> KrisWood: songbirrd linux isnt out, try banshee
[10:01] <LoneShadow> rjian: I dont have experience in what you want to do, but it sounds like you want either run dhcp/dns or forward dhcp/dns on your first machine, so that second machine has the internet
[10:02] <fr500> Gradius9: type who and see if gdm has logged in
[10:02] <Gradius9> fr500: I am pretty new to ubuntu / linux installed just last week replacing windows
[10:02] <LoneShadow> rjian: I am sure if you look up for tutorials on running router service on a linux machine, you will find most answers
[10:02] <fr500> Gradius9: when you type who, it should show a :0 entry
[10:02] <Gradius9> username pts/0        2006-06-18 09:52 (adress.lan)
[10:02] <fr500> Gradius9:  :o
[10:03] <KrisWood> fr500: I'll do that, thanks
[10:03] <Gradius9> yes, it does
[10:03] <fr500> no more lines?
[10:03] <fr500> Gradius9:
[10:03] <Gradius9> only this line
[10:03] <fr500> hmmm
[10:03] <fr500> then gdm has not logged in
[10:03] <Gradius9> fr500: ok, any commands or (urls) you suggest so I can login to gdm?
[10:04] <rjian> Loneshadow: its actually like this i have a windows workstation i want them to have a internet connection by sharing my connection to workstation..
[10:04] <fluxbox> Hi guys, does anyone know how to setup a VNC server to be accessed outside of a internal network Via the CLI
[10:04] <fr500> Gradius9: not really, you can try to edit gdm config and try to reboot to see if it starts
[10:04] <LoneShadow> and you dont have a router ?
[10:04] <fr500> fluxbox: if it works on lan, and the ports are forwarded in your router it should work unless there is a firewall stopping you
[10:05] <rjian> loneshadow: nope i dont have router im just using two network cards..
[10:05] <davutz> S/SERVER IRCMIROMIRO.NET
[10:05] <ZDUX> gnomefreak: thanks that did it
[10:06] <kevin> rjian, make sure the windows firewall is off. If that is not the answer, you may to configure it with the windows box first... or that is what I would try
[10:07] <eirik_> hi
[10:07] <Gradius9> fr500: looks like I have to connect that monitor...
[10:07] <rjian> still not getting the answer how can i restart the gnome panel??
[10:07] <fluxbox> fr500: thanks mate ill try and check that out when i get home :-) i just need the exterior port for example (8080)to be forwarded internall to port 0? or 1 or whatever i set it as
[10:07] <gnomefreak> rjian: kilall gnome-panel
[10:07] <fr500> fluxbox: 5900
[10:07] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:07] <gnomefreak> rjian: killall gnome-panel
[10:08] <cat> gnome sucks,
[10:08] <cat> waimea r0x
[10:08] <fr500> fluxbox: 5900 and u should forward to 5900
[10:08] <gnomefreak> cat: than dont use it but we dont need that in here
[10:08] <LoneShadow> rjian: rjian: check this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[10:08] <LoneShadow> rjian: that describes how to share the interent to a second pc
[10:09] <rjian> ah ok thnx loneshadow
[10:10] <cat> rjian: you ready fixed you're issued with, smb?
[10:10] <rjian> nope
[10:10] <eobanb> how can i set an ubuntu machine's DHCP client ID?
[10:10] <morphix> whats a lightweight app that works fine in xfce4 that can burn cd's AND dvd's the included 'xfburn' doesnt seem to burn DVD :(
[10:11] <konfuzed> crap i got a kernel panic during install
[10:11] <LoneShadow> can anyone see this video from ubuntu ? http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9152183/detail.html
[10:11] <rjcube> im trying to mount a .iso on a virtual drive, from what I understand I use this: mount -o loop <iso directory> <mountpoint>, but I have no Idea what the mountpoint would need to be, can anyone help?
[10:11] <redblades> konfuzed: check that grub is not trying to load from the wrong hardrive
[10:11] <transgress> LoneShadow: i can
[10:11] <eobanb> rjcube, it can be any directory to which you have write access.
[10:12] <cat> morphix: try waimea or fluxbox
[10:12] <eobanb> rjcube, preferably something like ~/Desktop/isoimage/
[10:12] <LoneShadow> transgress: which browser and what plugin ?
[10:12] <cat> LoneShadow: can you pasted it to me on, my query?
[10:12] <cat> i want to see it later,
[10:12] <redblades> kevin, is transcode difficult to use? whaere do I get it?
[10:12] <Xorph> rjcube, may something like /media/cdrom
[10:12] <transgress> LoneShadow: i have firefox ... repo default... and mplayer plugin.  i removed the totem one
[10:12] <fluxbox> thanks fr500
[10:12] <kevin> redblades, sudo apt-get transcode
[10:12] <LoneShadow> cat: what do you want me to paste ?
[10:12] <morphix> eh? fluxbox is a window manager.
[10:13] <morphix> cat: eh? fluxbox is a window manager.
[10:13] <gnomefreak> morphix: do you want a gui or cli burner?
[10:13] <killaz> guys can you help me mounting a NFS? I'm using right now linux from CD but wantto brun a iso of ubuntu on another machine
[10:13] <kevin> redblades, then when I need to I just man transcode
[10:13] <morphix> gnomefreak, burner with GUI
[10:13] <gnomefreak> morphix: gnomebaker
[10:13] <killaz> the iso is on another machine..
[10:13] <killaz> so I need to make a NFS conection to that other machine..
[10:14] <LoneShadow> killaz: check ubuntu's howto/wiki, there is a step by step description, if you have particular questions ask away, I have nfs booted machines :)
[10:14] <rjcube> Xorph: that worked perfectly, thanks
[10:14] <morphix> hmm ok
[10:14] <abo> !ntfs
[10:14] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[10:15] <cat> LoneShadow: so i can see the video from ubuntu?
[10:15] <Xorph> rjcube, may you cant use your cdrom-drive as long as st iso is mounted...
[10:15] <LoneShadow> transgress: I have amd64, so I installed a 32bit firefox, but I guess my plugins are not setup
[10:15] <Gradius9> fr500: Yes, with the monitor cable I could confirm automatic login again
[10:15] <gnomefreak> LoneShadow: you need to run 32bit ff in chroot iirc
[10:15] <Eleaf> .....
[10:15] <LoneShadow> cat: http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9152183/detail.html, some online video which requires msn media player
[10:16] <fr500> Gradius9: so it does not work without monitor?
[10:16] <cat> can u pasted that on a query?
[10:16] <LoneShadow> gnomefreak: yea I am able to do that, using linux32, got it working to play flash and java applets
[10:16] <morphix> whats an app to record from TV card inputs?
[10:16] <Gradius9> fr500: I guess it was only this time after lots of updates
[10:16] <killaz> LoneShadow, what port does nfs use?
[10:16] <transgress> how hard is it to install 32bit firefox on 64bit ubuntu?
[10:16] <fr500> Gradius9: you should test
[10:16] <cat> LoneShadow:  can you pasted it on a queryh
[10:16] <fr500> Gradius9: doesnt make sense
[10:16] <cat> plz
[10:17] <eobanb> how can i set an ubuntu machine's DHCP client ID?
[10:17] <fr500> Gradius9 if it does not work, try commenting DPMS in the monitor section on xorg.conf (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[10:17] <LoneShadow> killaz: not sure, its on my lan, so I dont bother about the ports
[10:17] <Gradius9> fr500: More updates now when I restarted and logged in, going to install them and restart
[10:17] <gnomefreak> transgress: if you know what your doing or read the instructions im thinking its fairly easy
[10:17] <transgress> gnomefreak: okay.
[10:17] <killaz> LoneShadow, oh ok..no my firewall blocks everything internet and lan
[10:17] <transgress> gnomefreak: let me go find those... i'm guessing a wiki somewhere?
[10:17] <cat> LoneShadow: what is that video about?
[10:17] <killaz> the firewall on the server
[10:17] <transgress> LoneShadow: that was a cool video
[10:18] <gnomefreak> transgress: if you run the 32bit ubuntu you never have to worry about it ;)
[10:18] <LoneShadow> some video about how jiffy lube cheats :D, someone sent me the link, I had to reboot into windows to see it =/
[10:18] <transgress> gnomefreak: amd64 runs faster on my lappy... i've tried them both.
[10:18] <LoneShadow> someone*
[10:18] <cat> oh
[10:18] <dibblego> how does one delete all directories named "blah" that are contained anywhere recursively in the current directory?
[10:18] <cat> i though it was about ubuntu,
[10:18] <cat> because debian has videos that you can see,
[10:18] <Gradius9> fr500: In minutes I will test, but I can atleast confirm that if you run headless, and have done the latest updates you have to initally confirm the autologin, to know that the dialig shows you have to connect a monitor...
[10:18] <gnomefreak> transgress: its either on the ff1.5 wiki or the restrictedformats wiki i cant remember you can always look for a chroot wiki
[10:19] <martii> hello
[10:19] <gnomefreak> dibblego: man rm
[10:19] <fr500> Gradius9: confirm the autologin?
[10:19] <transgress> gnomefreak: don't have to chroot anymore IIRC
[10:19] <martii> I need some info about Kino in dapper
[10:19] <LoneShadow> killaz: are you saying your linux server is blocking access for all the ports on the lan ?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> transgress: i thought you still did  <i stay away from 64bit>
[10:20] <Gradius9> fr500: the "confirmation" appeared as a mini login box with the words autologin above... nothing more
[10:20] <dibblego> gnomefreak, nothing I could find could do it
[10:20] <fr500> Gradius9: never ever for me
[10:20] <fr500> Gradius9: you don't need VNC, if you are in a lan you can try XDCMP
[10:21] <Gradius9> fr500: time for testing headless again...
[10:21] <Gradius9> ok, using os x for main machine to control it
[10:21] <LoneShadow> transgress: installing 32bit apps on amd64 is not that big of a deal, you just need to create scripts to run them using linux32
[10:22] <fr500> Gradius9: maybe freenx
[10:22] <Gradius9> fr500: a version of xdcmp?
[10:22] <fr500> Gradius9: no, a different protocol
[10:22] <Gradius9> fr500: What is it?
[10:22] <morphix> holy! gnomebaker is HELL SLOW.. its takes no more than 10 mins to burn a dvdr in nero on winblows
[10:22] <sean> hello. what kind of audio codecs are needed to play .ts file with mplayer?
[10:22] <CaptainMorgan> trying to setup my printer.. after the list of drivers builds I selelct the one and it says 'unable to load driver....either it doesn't exist or your permissionsa re wrong', Im root... but after this it goes on to ask me if I want to print a test page and when I do it's garbled... (kde)
[10:22] <skavenge> wow thats cool just booted the livecd from my laptop for the first time and dapper detected everything out of the box accept the wireless lan card .. getting the driver on a clean install without floppies or cds and no other internet its going to be a challenge heh
[10:23] <fr500> like VNC, XDCMP allows remote logins, but i don't know FreeNX
[10:23] <polpak> dibblego: find . -name blah -type d | xargs rm -rf
[10:23] <eobanb> skavenge, what wireless card
[10:23] <fr500> Gradius9: there is a way to login via vnc, xdcmp over vnc or something, check the forums
[10:23] <dibblego> polpak, excellent thanks
[10:23] <skavenge> dell 1350, though its trying to detect it as some random broadcomm card instead of what it is
[10:23] <eobanb> skavenge, that's because it IS a broadcom card
[10:24] <CaptainMorgan> what's going on with the install printer tool??
[10:24] <eobanb> skavenge, dell does not make wireless cards, they re-brand broadcom cards
[10:24] <Gradius9> fr500: ok, the only thing is that communication via vnc is very slow. But when I have tested a machine externally its speed is ok
[10:24] <whooze> damn, it works :)
[10:24] <skavenge> yeah i know but its not the right one alas its not working .. i know the driver and everything i need for it to run with ndiswrapper just trying to figure out how to get the driver on a clean install
[10:24] <fr500> Gradius9: vnc on the lan is slow???
[10:25] <transgress> gnomefreak: nope.  don't have to.  i just downloaded 32bit flock and it works fine
[10:25] <fr500> Gradius9: and from outside it's fast??
[10:25] <eobanb> skavenge, i suggest just using wired ethernet for the time being
[10:25] <fr500> weird
[10:25] <whooze> Hello everybody, say hi to your newest ubuntu-user :)
[10:25] <CaptainMorgan> clicking 'Driver Information" gives me detailed info on the driver.....
[10:25] <kevin> Gradius9, I have sort of the same problem, I VNC to my wifes pc all of the time and it is slow
[10:25] <fr500> kevin: on the LAN?
[10:25] <fr500> kevin: i do over WPA protected wlan, and is damn fine
[10:25] <kevin> fr500, yes
[10:25] <skavenge> nothing to plug it into heh, that'd be the easy way .. may have to go and due this at a friends or something
[10:25] <cat> we linux users should have a big linux lan party
[10:25] <Gradius9> fr500: tested on different machines. but yes.. it is not the client
[10:25] <fr500> kevin: what resolution does your wife pc run?
[10:26] <morphix> 33 mins to copy a dvd compared to winblows's 17 mins
[10:26] <morphix> :|
[10:26] <kevin> not sure I belive it is stup for 1024x768
[10:26] <kevin> fr500,
[10:26] <fr500> weird
[10:26] <martii> why Kino 0.8 in dapper is unable to encode dual pass?
[10:26] <martii> I tried avi dvd
[10:26] <skavenge> morphix; i'd check and make sure your DMA is turned on for the drive, i've encountered it being completely turned off by default for some drives
[10:27] <cat> man i want to buy some linux stickers for my laptop,
[10:27] <fr500> morphix: you should try a different burning method, there are many, and DMA
[10:27] <Gradius9> but when changing client to apple remote desktop it is quite fast, but ard is very bad on character support etc.
[10:27] <CaptainMorgan> how can there be detailed infor for a driver... fail to load and ask and print a test page (which is garbled) ??
[10:27] <martii> on the other hand it's unable to export to h.264 as well
[10:27] <martii> single or duall pass
[10:27] <CaptainMorgan> shouldn't get to the test page step at all
[10:27] <morphix> skavenge, how do i check the DMA settings?
[10:28] <konfuzed> ok so I rebooted after the install gave me a kernel panic and it comes up to a shell login prompt which allows me to login
[10:28] <skavenge> i cant say offhand i just searched the wiki for 'dma' when i was dealing with a problematic dvd burner
[10:28] <abo> when I try to use the diskmounter script, everything works fine, but than mount complains that it doesn't understand the ntfs-fuse file system, is there a module that I need to install? I'm using Dapper
[10:28] <kevin> fr500, I know why it was slow before, her res was cranked wayyyyy up but now I jave tp set tp a lower res and still slow
[10:28] <konfuzed> do I have to reconfigure xorg or just go straight for the dist-upgrade. i just installed 5.10 from an install cd
[10:29] <fr500> kevin: weird
[10:29] <fr500> try freenx
[10:29] <eobanb> konfuzed, why would you have to reconfigure xorg
[10:29] <konfuzed> no grpahic login
[10:29] <konfuzed> just a shell prompt
[10:29] <eobanb> konfuzed, you can just change your repositories to dapper and do a dist-upgrade
[10:29] <konfuzed> something kernel paniced I dont know what
[10:29] <eobanb> konfuzed, in that case i suggest you try installing again
[10:30] <konfuzed> hm from scratch
[10:30] <Gradius9> fr500: Last time i did updates to the system I saw some WPA files. that means it has wpa compatibility right?
[10:30] <eobanb> well, if you don't have a complete system install it's very possible that a lot of stuff is broken
[10:30] <killaz> uhm I'm using ftp to get a file from my FTP server. I want to put this file on my external HD mounted on /mnt/sda1 but when I get the file: the system tells me that local:#name-of-file: Read-only file system
[10:30] <LeaChim> how can i force a package to install even though it has errors in the post-installation script?
[10:30] <sean> Anybody whos can help me ?
[10:30] <fr500> dunno man
[10:30] <konfuzed> oh poopers
[10:30] <eobanb> konfuzed, if it doesn't work the second time around, i'd try a dapper disc.
[10:30] <Gradius9> fr500:  *wpa*.* something
[10:30] <freddyubuntu> hey guys I am trying to install a graph calculator on linux... I get this error when I try to configure it
[10:30] <freddyubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:30] <killaz> how can I write a file on this HD?
[10:30] <fr500> supplicant
[10:30] <fr500> Gradius9: wpa supplicant
[10:31] <fr500> but compatibilty is up to drivers
[10:31] <eobanb> killaz, what filesystem
[10:31] <konfuzed> I'm using a kvm switch and was on the other box when it happened
[10:31] <killaz> uhm I think a FAT32
[10:31] <killaz> it;s just an external HD
[10:31] <eobanb> nevertheless, i'd make sure it's not an NTFS
[10:31] <CaptainMorgan> printer anyone?
[10:31] <killaz> eobanb, it's just an external HD, with FAT32 file-system
[10:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sean -about codecs
[10:32] <killaz> eobanb, how?
[10:32] <eobanb> killaz, System > Administration > Discs
[10:32] <killaz> eobanb, how can I make sure of that?
[10:32] <morphix> skavenge, DMA is on.. but dvd copying is VERY slow.
[10:32] <eobanb> Disks*
[10:32] <konfuzed> is there some way I can test to see what is or isnt broken
[10:32] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: you mean packages?
[10:32] <konfuzed> ping google.com works ;^)
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ah net
[10:32] <konfuzed> well base install to start with
[10:32] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[10:33] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[10:33] <skavenge> morphix; dunno then, maybe try a different program, i've never used gnomebaker personally
[10:33] <eobanb> lin, ..?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> lin: dont repeat and lose the caps please
[10:33] <lin> the fucking gtk+ maintainer should fix this
[10:33] <eobanb> konfuzed, bottom line, if your install process was interrupted halfway through, i'd just re-install, okay?
[10:33] <killaz> eobanb, and from the CLI?
[10:33] <czr_> hmm. is LTS suitable for a minimal install (a router/firewall)?
[10:33] <morphix> skavenge, whats a good cd/dvd burner then?
[10:33] <kevin> morphix, k3b works for me
[10:33] <eobanb> killaz, 'mount'
[10:33] <gnomefreak> lin: i will un mute you in a few mins
[10:34] <skavenge> morphix; i've always used k3b, even on gnome
[10:34] <morphix> yeh k3b.. i've used that before, that was good :)
[10:34] <killaz> eobanb, it's a vfat
[10:34] <freddyubuntu> am trying to install a graph calculator on linux... I get this error when I try to configure it
[10:34] <freddyubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:34] <kevin> morphix, that is the only one I currently use
[10:34] <eobanb> killaz, at the end, does it say (rw) ?
[10:35] <killaz> nope ro
[10:35] <gnomefreak> Fred: try installing libqt3-mt
[10:35] <skavenge> i found that one best but honestly i've never gotten that burner i was speaking of going as fast as in windows .. maybe a driver issue, i dunno
[10:35] <eobanb> killaz, well you need to re-mount as rw
[10:35] <abo> anyone know how to make mount recognise the ntfs-fuse filesystem ? is there a module to install?
[10:35] <eobanb> freddywhat programme?
[10:36] <killaz> eobanb, ok let me try that
[10:36] <morphix> shite.. install anything that uses kde sure does take a lot of things to install.
[10:37] <kevin> CaptainMorgan, if it is a Cannon printer, I have had very little success with them
[10:37] <eobanb> morphix, indeed.
[10:37] <Goldneye> Hello all
[10:37] <eobanb> welcome, Goldneye
[10:37] <gnomefreak> lin: you have been unmuted i advise you read the coc and the irc guidelines
[10:37] <skavenge> yeah all the libraries and stuff .. worth it though for k3b imo
[10:37] <martii> no Kino users here?
[10:37] <Goldneye> Anyone have any luck w/ putting Dapper on an Intel Mac?
[10:38] <eobanb> Goldneye, as far as i know that's a somewhat tricky procedure, but i suggest you search the forum; i think are more than few how-to's out there
[10:38] <Goldneye> msg me if so...
[10:39] <kevin> Goldneye, I have put it on an iMAC
[10:39] <Goldneye> yeah.. I've read them, but the best I can see is putting it on an iPod
[10:39] <morphix> wtf? 
[10:39] <morphix> i have those type of things all over xchat
[10:39] <eobanb> Goldneye, are you encountering a specific problem?
[10:39] <CaptainMorgan> kevin: HP Deskjet 610CL
[10:39] <CaptainMorgan> Old.. but functioning
[10:39] <Goldneye> No..   just planning ahead before my MacBook arrives this week :-D
[10:39] <CaptainMorgan> just not on LInux
[10:40] <killaz> eobanb, mount -w remount /mnt/sda1 doesnt work
[10:40] <Stereo> hi guys
[10:40] <CaptainMorgan> KDE detected the printer....
[10:40] <CaptainMorgan> on the par port
[10:40] <eobanb> welcome, Stereo
[10:40] <kevin> CaptainMorgan, try to dl another driver then, then follow the instruction for installing another driver. That should work
[10:40] <CaptainMorgan> but what driver for linux?
[10:40] <Goldneye> I love Dapper and want to have it still with OS X
[10:40] <CaptainMorgan> aren't they different?
[10:40] <eobanb> Goldneye, i suppose you would just use boot camp to partition appropriately, and then you should be able to boot the dapper x86 live cd
[10:40] <CaptainMorgan> I got one for Win.... but the CD says only Win
[10:41] <Stereo> I ordered a bunch of CDs that were sent to the shipping company on 2006-04-04, and haven't received them yet. Is that normal?
[10:41] <kevin> one sec CaptainMorgan
[10:41] <killaz> eobanb, I did it..
[10:41] <eobanb> Stereo, yes.  shipit can take a while sometimes.
[10:41] <Lynoure> Hi
[10:42] <Goldneye> I can't install it to a partition?  I have to use the Live CD?
[10:42] <eobanb> Goldneye, ...?
[10:42] <eobanb> Goldneye, the live CD and the install CD are the same thing
[10:42] <skavenge> you install from the livecd as well
[10:42] <Goldneye> oh oh.. ok
[10:42] <Lynoure> If I want to change all sudo things (also update announcements) to another user, is there some easy way to do that?
[10:43] <Lynoure> I know I can just grant them sudo rights, but would they then get update notifications?
[10:43] <eobanb> yes, Lynoure, that's what should happen.
[10:43] <kevin> Googling for you CaptainMorgan
[10:43] <Goldneye> in previous versions of Ubuntu, they were two separate CDs
[10:43] <skavenge> or a whole dvd
[10:43] <gnomefreak> lin: now you are unmuted
[10:43] <Stereo> eobanb: ok, thanks!
[10:44] <cat> i got that error,
[10:44] <Goldneye> thanks! cheers
[10:45] <transgress> cool got 32bit flock, mplayer plugin, and flash working in 64bit... now i just have to find out where to put the w32codecs
[10:46] <Xorph> may there are w64codecs
[10:46] <eobanb> negative, Xorph.
[10:46] <Xorph> hmmm
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Xorph: sorta i think they are 32bit for 64 bit
[10:46] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:46] <iluciv> Hi I need a hand mounting a usb stick just how to express the filesystem type (fat)
[10:47] <transgress> gnomefreak: spectacular
[10:47] <kevin> CaptainMorgan, sorry I am coming up empty buddy
[10:47] <Lynoure> eobanb: hmm, but I don't see how editing sudo would trigger that... But that happens?
[10:47] <YuRaider> hello everyone ! :)
[10:48] <eobanb> welcome, YuRaider
[10:48] <YuRaider> i kindda have a problem with Dapper
[10:48] <YuRaider> anyone interested to help?
[10:48] <drwarlock> i have a question bout movie player
[10:48] <eobanb> !anyone
[10:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[10:48] <gnomefreak> YuRaider: we can kinda try to help you than
[10:48] <Xorph> iluciv, i think /mount auto device mountpoint should work
[10:48] <CaptainMorgan> kevin: as did i... weird... cuz in Gnome I had no problem with it.. didn't even need a driver.. but now in KDE I apparently need a driver...
[10:48] <kevin> CaptainMorgan, is there a message in dmesg after you try to load the driver?
[10:48] <Lynoure> I came to the onclusion I would not want sudo rights given to a user that does stuff I do on their account :)
[10:48] <YuRaider> well internet in Dapper just stops working after two minutes
[10:49] <YuRaider> in Breezy it works great
[10:49] <iluciv> Xorph: cheers I'll give it a go
[10:49] <eobanb> Lynoure, as far as i know, the update manager automatically showing the bubble that says 'updates are available' or whatever is purely dependent on whether or not the user in question has that enabled.  by default, for administrative users, i think it's on.
[10:49] <drwarlock> what decoders do i need for movie player
[10:49] <eobanb> but you might want to check anyway
[10:49] <eobanb> !tell drwarlock about restricted
[10:49] <CaptainMorgan> kevin: only message is 'unable to create driver: driver does not exist or you don't have sufficient permissions"
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell drwarlock -about restricted
[10:49] <prudhvi> Hi, i have just installed BreeZy on my PC and i also have an another PC that is currently mirroring Dapper Drake. But, when i change the apt sources.list the breezy system is not upgrading to dapper what might be the problsm
[10:49] <kevin> CaptainMorgan, try #kubuntu then.....maybe they will know something I don't
[10:49] <eobanb> YuRaider, what sort of internet connection is this
[10:50] <YuRaider> it's cable internet
[10:50] <YuRaider> I have my Scientific Atlanta WebStar 2000
[10:50] <YuRaider> connected via USB
[10:50] <Lynoure> eobanb: ok, thanks.
[10:50] <YuRaider> but when connected through the ethernet adapter
[10:50] <YuRaider> it works great
[10:50] <YuRaider> :)
[10:50] <eobanb> YuRaider, so why don't you use the ethernet adapter then
[10:50] <Madpilot> prudhvi, you need to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to go from Breezy->Dapper after changing your sources.list
[10:50] <YuRaider> because I need to somehow connect my two PCs :)
[10:50] <eobanb> that's what ethernet was designed for
[10:50] <eobanb> and USB was not
[10:51] <YuRaider> but what's really interesting
[10:51] <YuRaider> is that everything worked GREAT in Breezyt
[10:51] <YuRaider> Breezy*
[10:51] <YuRaider> and it doesn't in Dapper :(
[10:51] <prudhvi> Madpilot: yeah! i am already in r00t :)
[10:51] <YuRaider> so I'm stuck with $#@$@#$@#%#$ Windows XP for now
[10:52] <mrmist> I'm compiling this app, and during compilation I get: sh: gtk-config: command not found
[10:52] <mrmist> Any ideas ??
[10:52] <YuRaider> have you got GTK-dev installed?
[10:52] <eobanb> YuRaider, well considering it worked before and now it doesn't, i'm certainly inclined to say it should work...on the other hand given that ethernet cards can be had for $5 i'm also inclined to just say, 'go buy an ethernet card'
[10:52] <Xorph> may sudo apt-get install gtk-config
[10:52] <YuRaider> well I'm just too lazy :D
[10:53] <YuRaider> oh well I'm just gonna buy another LAN adapter then
[10:53] <konfuzed> well its copying abunch of packages to disc again
[10:53] <kevin> eobanb, I buy mine for 3 bux locally ;-)
[10:53] <YuRaider> since everything else works great, I'm not gonna give up on Linux that easy
[10:53] <eobanb> YuRaider, good to hear it
[10:53] <YuRaider> :)
[10:53] <mrmist> YuRaider: GTK-dev ? Can't find the package in "adept"..
[10:54] <YuRaider> well it's not necessarily called that
[10:54] <YuRaider> try searching for "gtk dev"
[10:54] <YuRaider> in Synaptic
[10:54] <UNH2LY> pish, using apt in cli is so much easier
[10:54] <YuRaider> well it is
[10:54] <YuRaider> if you know
[10:54] <YuRaider> the exact name of the package
[10:54] <UNH2LY> its like 3 words
[10:54] <YuRaider> you want to install ;)
[10:54] <UNH2LY> apt-cache search
[10:54] <UNH2LY> done
[10:55] <YuRaider> then you have to scroll throught the terminal ;)
[10:55] <YuRaider> (just kidding)
[10:55] <UNH2LY> my thoery... if you re too lazy to scroll through a terminal, you shouldnt go anywhere near linux in the first plafce
[10:55] <UNH2LY> *place
[10:56] <Matic`Makovec> Damn, sound in Mozilla Firefox stoped working. Sound works normaly with other multimedia players and all, only firefox doesn't give any sound at all. Any ideas?
[10:56] <YuRaider> well - I said i was kidding
[10:56] <YuRaider> i actually love the terminal
[10:56] <eobanb> i think this is a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic, UNH2LY
[10:56] <Snellgrove> lol I think CLI and Synaptics both have their pro's and cons :)
[10:56] <YuRaider> i do almost everything in the terminal :)
[10:56] <YuRaider> eobanb: sorry for offtopic
[10:56] <UNH2LY> eobanb, sorry, ill shut up.
[10:56] <mrmist> found it
[10:56] <Snellgrove> I generally use apt-get in the terminal, but sometimes I find Synaptic is good - as it can search, and the like :)
[10:56] <mrmist> guess I'm a bit tired, that's all
[10:56] <mrmist> heh
[10:57] <kevin> Matic`Makovec, if you have gaim running, it will interfere sometimes with sound
[10:57] <UNH2LY> kevin, from what ive experienced, it makes the sound fluxuate a good amount
[10:57] <UNH2LY> youll be muted and still get some with an IM through gaim
[10:57] <mrmist> er.... still no gtk-config though
[10:57] <UNH2LY> so i turned sounds off all together, but i still get the taskbar blinky
[10:57] <Matic`Makovec> kevin, it's gaims fault?
[10:58] <Matic`Makovec> damn.
[10:58] <kevin> UNH2LY,  yup sometimes
[10:58] <UNH2LY> or at least thats how it was in breezy
[10:58] <Matic`Makovec> lets' see
[10:58] <eobanb> i suspect that's because gaim uses oss instead of alsa, and mixing gets fubar'd
[10:58] <Matic`Makovec> thanks for the answer kevin
[10:58] <kevin> Matic`Makovec, np
[10:58] <kevin> first real answer I have been able to give all night lol
[10:58] <YuRaider> mrmist: the same thing happened to me for wx-config (wxWidgets), even though I had wx-config
[10:59] <YuRaider> I could start it from the terminal
[10:59] <YuRaider> but when I tried to compile a wxWidgets application
[10:59] <YuRaider> it reported that there's no wx-config
[10:59] <YuRaider> wier
[10:59] <YuRaider> wierd*
[10:59] <eobanb> didnt know anyone used wxwidgets anymore :P
[10:59] <Matic`Makovec> kevin, naah, it's not gaim fault. still doesn't work.
[10:59] <freddyubuntu> sorry that I repeat my question , I was disc connected and I didnt get your answers
[10:59] <UNH2LY> did any of you guys have like serious isues installing ubuntu from a freshly burned cd?
[10:59] <UNH2LY> *issues
[10:59] <Locke_> what am wxwidgets
[10:59] <YuRaider> eobanb why not :)
[10:59] <mrmist> YuRaider: found it. There's a shell-script contained only in the gtk1.2-dev, not in the 2.0 version
[11:00] <freddyubuntu> I am trying to install a program... i get this error in the ./configure
[11:00] <YuRaider> qt is all fine and good and well but it's massive :)
[11:00] <freddyubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:00] <YuRaider> freddy
[11:00] <kevin> UNH2LY,  yes, burned the CD too fast and it crapped during the install
[11:00] <YuRaider> this is QT dev
[11:00] <mrmist> Now I'm getting this:
[11:00] <UNH2LY> kevin, hrm, maybe that was my problem
[11:00] <mrmist> aclocal: command not found
[11:00] <freddyubuntu> what should I install?
[11:00] <czr> mrmist, install autoconf
[11:00] <YuRaider> and automake
[11:00] <YuRaider> :)
[11:00] <YuRaider> you'll probably need
[11:00] <UNH2LY> cause mine would hang up during the 95% thing, when it checks for stuff to remove
[11:00] <freddyubuntu> what ?
[11:00] <YuRaider> that too
[11:00] <UNH2LY> or something of that nature
[11:00] <freddyubuntu> I cant undrestand
[11:01] <kevin> UNH2LY, I had to reburn at 12x and all id well
[11:01] <Locke_> !restrictedformats
[11:01] <czr> if you see Makefile.am in your source, then you need automake
[11:01] <subiraj> does anyone know where apt stores the downloaded files...
[11:01] <ubotu> see !restricted
[11:01] <YuRaider> freddy: go to Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic...)
[11:01] <Locke_> !restricted
[11:01] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[11:01] <mrmist> aaaah...autoconf :D
[11:01] <YuRaider> and then search
[11:01] <YuRaider> for "qt dev"
[11:01] <subiraj> can anyone ansewr to me
[11:01] <YuRaider> you should probably install the latest Qt(4)
[11:01] <UNH2LY> kevin, i ended up doing a server install from a breezy disc (desktop wouldnt work on that either) and then upgrading to a desktop install, then to dapper
[11:01] <freddyubuntu> aha
[11:01] <freddyubuntu> i think i installed qt 3
[11:02] <czr> subir, /var/spool or /var/cache
[11:02] <freddyubuntu> there are a lot of QT things...
[11:02] <YuRaider> well yes - but you also need the development packagess
[11:02] <mrmist> On thing though... Do I have to do anything special to optimize compilation for running on two cores ?
[11:02] <YuRaider> those packages
[11:02] <czr> I'd go with /var/cache/apt
[11:02] <kevin> UNH2LY, wow!! that was a lot to just get Dapper
[11:02] <mrmist> Or is it sorted out automatically ??
[11:02] <YuRaider> are marked x-dev , where x stands for what you wwanna install
[11:02] <subiraj> thnx czr
[11:02] <czr> mrmist, depends on the software that uses qt
[11:02] <UNH2LY> kevin, i agree, but it worked rather well
[11:02] <mrmist> czr: qt? I'm not using qt !?
[11:02] <czr> mrmist, there is nothing specific in qt that would help on smp-systems (ht, dual core or real smp)
[11:03] <czr> mrmist, what are you using?
[11:03] <UNH2LY> kevin, do you theme gnome a lot, im kind of looking for some pointerws
[11:03] <UNH2LY> *pointers
[11:03] <YuRaider> to me - the Human theme is the best
[11:03] <kevin> UNH2LY, I got a laugh out of it, switched the wifes monitor, couldn't reconfigure x... had to reinstall
[11:03] <YuRaider> :)
[11:03] <freddyubuntu> is this enough "Qt 4 development tools" to install?
[11:03] <mrmist> czr: I'm compiling an application. qt is just the GUI lib.
[11:03] <kevin> UNH2LY, not really
[11:03] <bence> hi
[11:03] <YuRaider> freddyubuntu: well it should be Qt-dev specifically
[11:03] <czr> mrmist, I know what Qt is. just confused you with someone else :-)
[11:03] <YuRaider> but I'm not quite sure
[11:04] <mrmist> czr: hehe... that's OK
[11:04] <czr> mrmist, but no, if the application uses threads or multi-process model then it can utilize dual-core
[11:04] <YuRaider> so the easiest way to get over this is to install everything related to QT: )
[11:04] <czr> otherwise you're out of luck, kind of
[11:04] <subiraj> thnx i found it
[11:04] <UNH2LY> kevin, im on a lappy with only 1024x768 max res (its a 12") and im looking for some real low profile panels.... but i want to keep gnome, i like it a lot
[11:04] <subiraj> whats qt?
[11:04] <freddyubuntu> ok thanks YouRaider
[11:04] <mrmist> czr: Will it detect both cores automatically then ?
[11:04] <czr> mrmist, what will?
[11:04] <kevin> Well, night folks big day for the family tomorrow
[11:04] <czr> mrmist, that's the kernel's problem, not application problem
[11:05] <YuRaider> freedyubuntu: no problem
[11:05] <eobanb> subiraj, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28toolkit%29
[11:05] <UNH2LY> subiraj, thanks for asking, i was just going to do the same
[11:05] <YuRaider> subiraj: you seriously don't know what QT is?
[11:05] <CoolCubix> Hello, I am trying to compile/install a driver which needs kernel source. I downloaded (via apt-get), unpacked and made symlinks, but the installation script of the driver can't find the file include/linux/version.h. Why isn't it in the tarball ?
[11:05] <ScottiNailon> grrr NETWORKING!!!
[11:05] <mrmist> czr: Yeah, I guess. But I don't know how the kernel is working in ubuntu
[11:05] <eobanb> CoolCubix, what driver?
[11:05] <subiraj> na i am new to this op sys
[11:05] <ScottiNailon> Anyone here who can help me with networking???
[11:05] <eobanb> !anyone
[11:05] <subiraj> i am tryin it out for fun
[11:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[11:05] <UNH2LY> ScottiNailon, whatcha need
[11:05] <UNH2LY> ?
[11:05] <CoolCubix> eobanb> driver quickcam for the webam of the same name
[11:06] <czr> mrmist, uname -a? if you see smp there, then it can see all the cores. also cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:06] <eobanb> CoolCubix, if you installed something through apt then there shouldnt be any other installation script you need to run...
[11:06] <ScottiNailon> UNH2LY can I speak to you in msg mode? I dont have my glasses and I cant see much in the normal room...
[11:06] <subiraj> i have 5.10 n i am upgradin to 6.06 any advices for better working
[11:06] <YuRaider> QT is a library for GUIs and GUI is everything you see in the graphic mode, all programs that do not run from the terminal (konsole) are GUI programs, the ones that have windows and cool looking buttons 'n' stuff
[11:06] <YuRaider> and QT is used for easily making nice GUIs
[11:07] <YuRaider> subiraj I hope this cleared things a bit :)
[11:07] <czr> although Qt is not the only GUI toolkit. and it has a lot of otherstuff as well, not just GUI
[11:07] <subiraj> ya thnx
[11:07] <CoolCubix> eobanb> this driver compiles into a module, and that's why the package is only distributed as source in apt repositories. There are some things to do before compiling it
[11:07] <mrmist> czr:  2.6.15-25-686 #1 SMP PREEMP
[11:07] <subiraj> okkk
[11:07] <czr> mrmist, then you have a suitable kernel to drive more than one logical core. so there.
[11:07] <mrmist> cool
[11:08] <czr> mrmist, applications need to be designed differently if they want to use all the CPUs in a system. just hope your application has been designed in this way
[11:08] <czr> mrmist, there is no automagical setting for the compiler for this
[11:08] <ScottiNailon> UNH2LY: I booted into ubuntu from the CDROM, whilst I was installling the CD picked up my network setting automatically, but after the install the UBUNTU installation didnt pick up my network settings... I dont get it . . .
[11:08] <mrmist> czr: Yeah... I know. Let's hope so.
[11:09] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, what sort of networking.  wired ethernet?
[11:09] <subiraj> i wanted to ask one more thing when the apt starts downloading files from the servers it first looks for the files in the cache dir, if i copy these files n save it for further use on my system will it work if i pt back them in that directory
[11:09] <mrmist> czr: You gotta employ multiple threads in a prog to make it work. That's kinda' logical :)
[11:09] <CoolCubix> eobanb> in fact the real problem is : why is there no include/linux/version.h in the linux-source-2.6.15 ?
[11:09] <ScottiNailon> wired ethernet with DHCP server from the switch
[11:09] <Eleaf> m
[11:10] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, does the network interface show up at all?
[11:10] <subiraj> is QT based on programing or on visual inputs..
[11:10] <czr> mrmist, there are other techniques as well
[11:10] <YuRaider> subiraj: both
[11:10] <ScottiNailon> I have an ADSL modem connected to a wireless hub which my computer is wired to.
[11:10] <czr> mrmist, and just using threads doesn't mean that the program will scale
[11:10] <YuRaider> there's a nice QT Designer
[11:10] <subiraj> okk
[11:10] <mrmist> czr: have any good references ?
[11:10] <subiraj> okk
[11:10] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: yes Eth0 shows up.
[11:10] <YuRaider> which helps you create GUIs by clicking
[11:10] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, and what happens when you do 'sudo dhclient'
[11:10] <czr> mrmist, read the book on posix realtime extensions (POSIX.4 - programming for the real world)
[11:11] <czr> that doesn't touch threads though
[11:11] <subiraj> can u refer one to QT designer to install
[11:11] <ScottiNailon> i havent tried it...
[11:11] <YuRaider> well it's installed along with QT itselft
[11:11] <ScottiNailon> shall I boot into UBUNTU and try it ?
[11:11] <YuRaider> itself
[11:11] <mrmist> czr: ehm... what book ?
[11:11] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, how else would we get it working?
[11:11] <subiraj> where do i find QT?
[11:12] <YuRaider> you can find it at the repositories
[11:12] <YuRaider> like from Synaptic
[11:12] <ScottiNailon> I am not sure - I havent played in Linux for a long time :)
[11:12] <czr> mrmist, depends on what you do. you know how to measure software performance?
[11:12] <subiraj> okk if i search for QT
[11:12] <rjian> how can i open .tar file extension?
[11:12] <morphix> For the ati driver on dapper i used >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25 , when i do fglrxinfo it doesnt say "ati technologies inc" or "radeon 9800" like the example one does..
[11:12] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: are there any other thoughts?? just before I reboot into linux
[11:12] <YuRaider> sorry subiraj I'm gonna have to leave u guyz now so I can have breakfast :D
[11:12] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, after you log in, open a terminal, do 'ifconfig' and make sure the network interface is there
[11:12] <subiraj> okk
[11:12] <eobanb> and then try 'sudo dhclient' to get a DHCP lease
[11:12] <mrmist> czr: I'm creating a raytracer. It's as simple as comparing rendering times
[11:12] <subiraj> then gud mornin to u
[11:13] <czr> mrmist, obviously if you think it's that simple, you don't need any pointers from me ;-)
[11:13] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, if that doesnt work, then write down what the error message is, and tell us what it is
[11:13] <mrmist> czr: Hehe.... then tell me..
[11:13] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: hmmm ok, um yeah thats it I guess... I will check it out.... the system boots right into gnome
[11:13] <czr> anyhow, I need to do some real work meanwhile
[11:13] <subiraj> is there any way to speed up downloads n eat maximum bandwidth in ubuntu...
[11:13] <czr> mrmist, maybe you'll learn in time.
[11:13] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, do you have two computers available or something?
[11:13] <ScottiNailon> something to do witgh DNS servers - I cant ping yahoo...
[11:14] <ScottiNailon> no only the one :(
[11:14] <mrmist> czr: gimme a hint
[11:14] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, well you should be getting DNS info via DHCP
[11:14] <czr> mrmist, L1 > L2 > memory > virtual mem, but with multiple CPUs there will be a lot of scalability problems when multiple caches need to hold the same data
[11:14] <ScottiNailon> SHOULD being the operative word!!!
[11:14] <ScottiNailon> hehe
[11:14] <smacky_wolf> Could anyone give me any reasons as to why installing ANYTHING on my 64bit Dapper install is nearly impossible? If so, also how could I actually install something?
[11:15] <eobanb> if you aren't, open System > Administration > Neworking and choose the DNS tab, and see what appears there
[11:15] <czr> mrmist, obviously you should look into packed vector operations as well, depending on your mathematics requirements and whether you can parallelize your raytracing calculations to begin with
[11:15] <ScottiNailon> nothing appears there....
[11:15] <ScottiNailon> what SHOULD be there?
[11:15] <konfuzed> now that the 5.10 install is actually at the stage of "Installing Packackages" is there any more manual intervention required like even 1 key stroke on the keyboard?
[11:15] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, well, your DNS servers, i would think
[11:15] <konfuzed> im way past the time to pass out
[11:16] <subiraj> i have one more problem when i do lil too much with visuals n X11 it fails to start, is there any way to recover from that
[11:16] <ScottiNailon> how do I find out what they are? any ideas ?
[11:16] <mrmist> czr: think I'll take a course on paralell computing. But it's such a theoretical course.. *sigh*
[11:16] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, it really depends on your ISP.  you may want to check your router's configuration and see what it has there.
[11:16] <czr> mrmist, there is real parallel stuff, and there is small domain (intra-node) parallel, which requires quite different approaches
[11:16] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: ok I will check it that way
[11:16] <czr> mrmist, read the intel guide on optimization (optimizing for ia-32 architecture). it's quite good
[11:17] <enyc> I find the selection of DNS tools in ubuntu-main limited... hrrm
[11:17] <enyc> universe has many fo the more userful tools
[11:17] <suprchris> What happened to all the functionality of the screensaver?
[11:17] <mrmist> czr: Thanks for the tips. I'll do that! :)
[11:17] <czr> mrmist, search for the pdf on intel.com -> developers -> processors -> foo
[11:18] <grudu> hi there, I need some help... i'm trying to save some datas after a windws crash ; so i'm using a live ubuntu session
[11:18] <UNH2LY> ScottiNailon, as root or sudo do  "dhclient eth0"
[11:18] <czr> it's free. there is also a document from amd on the same subject. quite good as well
[11:18] <eobanb> suprchris, it died a horrible death by zealous minimalist gnomes.  but that's a subject for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:18] <enyc> like the 'host' tool (not bind9-host) and NSD (rather more robust / less reoserce hungry  server for authoritative dns zones than bind9 from main) etc.
[11:18] <mrmist> czr: yup. I'll sure do that. I'm mostly developing for Intel though...
[11:18] <grudu> but, i can't find my windows partitions...
[11:18] <suprchris> is there anyway to get the original back
[11:18] <grudu> Is someone able t help me ?
[11:18] <eobanb> UNH2LY, i already suggested that
[11:18] <mrmist> czr: But I'm not doing asm though... it's C/C++
[11:18] <czr> mrmist, it doesn't matter. both books are good.
[11:18] <UNH2LY> sorry, xchat lagged out for some reason
[11:18] <czr> mrmist, the books mainly are for c/c++, not a much of asm stuff
[11:18] <mrmist> czr: I'll sure look into it
[11:19] <Stroganoff> eobanb, that's very funny with those screensavers, that take input from a custom image or desktop screenshot and will just show this ugly, colorfull test screen
[11:19] <smacky_wolf> Could anyone give me any reasons as to why installing ANYTHING on my 64bit Dapper install is nearly impossible? If so, also how could I actually install something?
[11:19] <czr> mrmist, generally the programming language doesn't matter as much, as long as it doesn't hide any dynamic latencies (C++ might do that sometimes)
[11:19] <eobanb> Stroganoff, okay..?
[11:19] <suprchris> eoband, is there a way to get the old ss manager back?
[11:20] <Stroganoff> i just don't understand those minimalistic morons at gnome, sry
[11:20] <mrmist> czr: Does it consider stuff like that? These are expressions I don't really know that well
[11:20] <eobanb> nor do i, Stroganoff
[11:20] <subiraj> need an answer pple....i have one more problem when i do lil too much with visuals n X11 it fails to start, is there any way to recover from that
[11:20] <eobanb> suprchris, yeah, there should be
[11:20] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: thanks man you are the best :)
[11:20] <czr> mrmist, does what consider?
[11:20] <eobanb> check if you have the xscreensaver package installed, suprchris
[11:20] <M_Fatih> hi ubuntu, have a nice sunday :)
[11:20] <suprchris> i have some of the packages
[11:20] <smacky_wolf> subiraj, try ctl+alt+backspace
[11:20] <czr> mrmist, you should learn to profile your code first, to know which part to "optimize"/redesign
[11:21] <smacky_wolf> Should restart your xsession
[11:21] <suprchris> but there is also gnome-screensaver installed
[11:21] <eobanb> subiraj, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:21] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: errr.... is there an XCHAT in UBUNTU
[11:21] <subiraj> ya but after restart gnome fails to start it reports an error
[11:21] <eobanb> suprchris, gnome-screensaver is the dumbified one
[11:21] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, yeah, should be...
[11:21] <suprchris> ok
[11:21] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, if not, sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:21] <Xorph> ScottiNailon, sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:21] <mrmist> czr: yep. I've done some profiling on scripts, but not on C++ code. I'm kinda' new to development on Unix platforms.
[11:21] <suprchris> I guess i'll see what I can find.
[11:21] <subiraj> okk i will try this next time it happens eobanb
[11:22] <grudu> hi/bonjour/nazdar
[11:22] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: is there a way to change from Gnome to KDE ?
[11:22] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <czr> mrmist, google for 'gprof' and 'valgrind'. although you should generally understand something about architectures first (especially with valgrind)
[11:23] <czr> mrmist, good luck though. it's a road that never really ends ;-)
[11:23] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: thats KDE is it?
[11:23] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, yes.
[11:23] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: do you have any newer or better suggestions then KDE ?
[11:23] <mrmist> Yeah... I've kinda' understood that... hehe. I've been coding for quite some time, but I still feel like a newbie
[11:23] <morphix> i installed the ati driver for my 9800 pro.. set up dual head.. rebooted.. but its still not dual head :(
[11:23] <ScottiNailon> has anything BETTER been designed?
[11:23] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, well personally i prefer gnome.
[11:23] <YuRaider> is there a way to install amaroK and KDE based apps without really installing KDE itself?
[11:23] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: why ?
[11:23] <morphix> and i get that DRI is missing error.. even though that module is set to load
[11:23] <mrmist> czr: thanks though :) You've given me lots of pointers now
[11:24] <czr> mrmist, I'm like a double-linked list :-). have fun
[11:24] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, everyone has their own opinion as to which desktop environment is better, but i suggest you try both and see which one you prefer, and keep in mind that both can be highly customised.
[11:24] <Locke_> gnome beats the crap out of kde
[11:24] <Guilt> let's traverse czr :)
[11:24] <eobanb> Locke_, let's not start a flamewar..
[11:25] <mrmist> czr: hehe :) Thanks
[11:25] <subiraj> thanx pple goin bye
[11:25] <mrmist> czr: *saving the log*
[11:25] <czr> Guilt, noo. I'd like to keep some pointers private :-)
[11:25] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: I need one that is REALLYeasy to use for the end user, I am trying to find an easy build of linux to start installing for end users in order to to further Linux :)
[11:25] <Guilt> ;)
[11:25] <czr> mrmist, when you have specific questions, drop a privmsg. I hang around freenode most of the time
[11:26] <mrmist> cool... here on ubuntu ?
[11:26] <czr> mainly on #kernel
[11:26] <czr> but privmsg doesn't care
[11:26] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, well you know again it just depends on what you like.  by default, KDE looks and feels more like windows xp than gnome does.  in my opinion gnome is somewhat better-designed.
[11:26] <morphix> wtf, i have 3 monitor sections.. and 3 devices section
[11:26] <morphix> :/
[11:26] <ScottiNailon> Ease of use wise? whats better ?
[11:27] <mrmist> czr: yeah :) I'll do that... it's ages since I've been using IRC... trying it again these days
[11:27] <czr> you can take a man our of IRC, but you can never take IRC out of a man
[11:27] <mrmist> czr: Any way I can add you to a list on Gaim or something ?
[11:27] <ltibor65> Hi guys! Please, help! How can I set the path of an executable program?
[11:27] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, probably gnome.  KDE tends to have a lot more (arguably confusing) options for things.
[11:27] <CrippsFX> I did an apt-get upgrade yesterday, and among other things my kernel was updated to 2.6.15-25-i386 ... but now I can't get my broadcom wireless to work. I'm using the bcm43xx module, and "iwlist eth1 scanning" returns no results ... problem is, I'm practically sitting on top of my AP. Has enybody else experienced this problem, or fixed it?
[11:27] <mrmist> czr: hehe
[11:27] <czr> mrmist, sure.
[11:28] <fijam> hello. I need some assistance installing Ubuntu. Could you help?
[11:28] <CrippsFX> ltibor65, export "PATH"="$PATH:/path/to/program"
[11:28] <eobanb> fijam, what is your question?
[11:28] <subiraj> hi frnz
[11:28] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: I have an o2 PDAII MINI - is there any compatibility with those?
[11:28] <fijam> I've got two physical drives. On the first one I've got W98, which I'd like to leave here. Second one is empty, ready for Ubuntu
[11:28] <eobanb> i don't know what that is, ScottiNailon
[11:28] <fijam> How to install it?
[11:28] <ScottiNailon> its a PDA
[11:28] <subiraj> one more question how should i make my gnome meeting work
[11:28] <ScottiNailon> palm sized comptuer :)
[11:29] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, does it run palm OS?
[11:29] <subiraj> i mean whom can i connect with gnome meeting
[11:29] <eobanb> fijam, have you booted the dapper live CD?
[11:29] <ScottiNailon> errr. yeah I think so
[11:29] <fijam> I am currently under W98. I just want some theory ;)
[11:29] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: it says designed for Windows Mobile
[11:30] <Healot> still usin 9x?
[11:30] <eobanb> fijam, when you run the installer on the dapper disc, it should present both drives to you, and you'll be able to select on which drive to install ubuntu.  it will also detect your windows install and make that an option in the grub boot menu.
[11:30] <babo> How do I grep match for a word, case-insensitive .. ?
[11:30] <KrisWood> how do I get audio and video codecs?
[11:30] <mrmist> grep word -i
[11:30] <eobanb> ScottiNailon, i really do not know.  i'm sure there are a variety of pocketPC tools out there for linux, though
[11:30] <SuperQ> fijam: yea, you want to download the Desktop CD
[11:30] <eobanb> !tell KrisWood about restricted
[11:30] <mrmist> babo: grep  "myword" -i
[11:30] <subiraj> pple what is gnome meeting for??????????????/
[11:31] <fijam> eobanb, but... the GRUB will change MBR? And what about that stuff with creating /boot partition etc?
[11:31] <babo> mrmist: thanks
[11:31] <SuperQ> fijam: One question tho, you're running W98, how much memory does your computer have?
[11:31] <mrmist> babo: np :)
[11:31] <fijam> superQ just 128 :(
[11:31] <ScottiNailon> oh well, I guess I will get my system working and then look into it - because my pocketPC syncs with my outlook calender and contacts etc.... I cant loose that.
[11:31] <SuperQ> fijam: oh.. that's not enough for install :(
[11:31] <fijam> SuperQ even with using e.g IceWM?
[11:31] <KrisWood> thanks
[11:31] <SuperQ> fijam: well, you will have to do a text mode install
[11:32] <eobanb> fijam, you'll want to get the text installer disc instead
[11:32] <SuperQ> fijam: which is the "alternate" installer
[11:32] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: ok I go now and try to get my broken network fixed - ttys
[11:32] <rej-> how do i get the whole string of a running process with ps x? it cuts off at the end of the terminal..
[11:32] <ScottiNailon> goners
[11:32] <fijam> tell me more please :)
[11:32] <eobanb> fijam, and once you've done that you'll probably want to switch to a more lightweight window manager, but let's jump off that bridge when we come to it..
[11:32] <CrippsFX> subiraj, gnome-meeting is for video conferencing. It's kind of like microsoft netmeeting
[11:32] <SuperQ> fijam: it's not that much more dificult
[11:32] <SuperQ> fijam: you may want to look at using Xubuntu
[11:32] <fijam> superQ And what is that?
[11:33] <eobanb> ubuntu + xfce
[11:33] <SuperQ> fijam: it's a lightweight desktop
[11:33] <KrisWood> what's a good gui FTP client?
[11:33] <eobanb> !tell fijam about xubuntu
[11:33] <transgress> KrisWood: gftp
[11:33] <eobanb> KrisWood, perhaps try gftp
[11:33] <dragoon> KrisWood: gftp
[11:33] <KrisWood> cool thanks
[11:33] <SuperQ> fijam: with either one, the installer will make all the partitions for you
[11:33] <SuperQ> fijam: and install the MBR
[11:33] <MenZa> gFTP is horrible (IMO)--Nautilus is better.
[11:33] <subiraj> cripps FX:\whom can i connect to?
[11:33] <SuperQ> fijam: you just have to tell it which drive to use
[11:34] <fijam> SuperQ thanks
[11:34] <SuperQ> fijam: (you will need atleast a 2GB drive
[11:34] <CrippsFX> subiraj, whoever else is using gnome meeting ... I think it's possible to connect to people using net meeting to.
[11:34] <fijam> SuperQ got 6GB
[11:34] <SuperQ> fijam: should be ok
[11:34] <SuperQ> fijam: it will make it all with one partition
[11:34] <KrisWood> thanks MenZa, I didn't know Nautilus had FTP, where do I find it?
[11:34] <dre> hi
[11:34] <eobanb> welcome, dre
[11:34] <SuperQ> fijam: you don't need /boot anymore, because grub knows how to get around the partition size limits
[11:34] <fijam> SuperQ: and how much space should I spre for swap?
[11:34] <dre> how do i get resolutions higher than 1024?
[11:34] <CrippsFX> subiraj, unless you use gnome-meeting for business video conferencing, I think that installing it is a waste of time. It *is* possible to use it for webcam over MSN (on gaim), but I really don't know how.
[11:35] <kane77> i have a problem with totem... it always opens up below the upper panel (the titlebar is under panel) no matter how I leave it.... it's pretty annoying... how can I make it open normally????
[11:35] <MenZa> !resolution
[11:35] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:35] <SuperQ> fijam: the installer will figure it out for you
[11:35] <eobanb> fijam, considering you only have 128 MB of RAM, probably a lot
[11:35] <SuperQ> eobanb: heh
[11:35] <MenZa> KrisWood: there's a "Connect to server" point in the menu next to 'Applications'.
[11:35] <tripppy> how do i setup auto updates for ubuntu between 1am and 5am - download and install only?
[11:35] <SuperQ> fijam: if it's too slow with Xubuntu, you can install "fluxbox"
[11:35] <SuperQ> fijam: it's very very light weight
[11:36] <fijam> superQ: yeas, I am aware of its existance ;)
[11:36] <KrisWood> MenZa: oooh very mac-ish
[11:36] <subiraj> okkk
[11:36] <MenZa> KrisWood: 'bit.
[11:36] <fijam> superQ and eobanb: thanks for help
[11:36] <subiraj> tripppy i ve the same question
[11:36] <rait> hi
[11:36] <fijam> bye
[11:36] <eobanb> welcome, rait
[11:37] <rait> can anyone help me resize my ext3 partition?
[11:37] <eobanb> to what end, rait?
[11:37] <rait> how do u mean to zhat end?
[11:37] <rait> what*
[11:37] <eobanb> rait, why do you want to do that
[11:38] <rait> to be able to add the un-used space to my windows partition
[11:38] <LoneShadow> unmount it, and use parted
[11:38] <eobanb> ...unless of course it's your boot volume..
[11:39] <rait> i think it is
[11:39] <eobanb> in which case unmounting it is going to prove rather difficult
[11:39] <rait> im not sure ...
[11:39] <rait> havent used linux in ages
[11:39] <rtg> how to install themes in XUBUNTU
[11:39] <shylock> hi, i tried to install gnucash, it doesnt show up in the menu and when i run it from the terminal it starts with the motif look, anyone know how i change it to gtk?
[11:39] <eobanb> rait, uhm, well, if it is, you'll have to boot from some other volume, like a dapper liveCD, and run gparted from that
[11:39] <rjian> does anyone know about swat samba??
[11:39] <LoneShadow> if you havnt used in ages, it might be a better idea, reformat it :D
[11:39] <LoneShadow> unless you have important data
[11:39] <dre> sudo: timestamp too far in the future:
[11:39] <dre> How do I fix?
[11:39] <rait> hmm
[11:40] <transgress> !w32codecs
[11:40] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[11:40] <rait> would my windows be good too?
[11:40] <eobanb> ...?
[11:40] <rtg> how 2 install themes in XUBUNTU
[11:40] <subiraj> i am having a problem with mplayer its video is much slower than the actual speed n sound is ok... an anyone assist plz...
[11:40] <KrisWood> wow I must say that the nautilus FTP client is the best one I've ever used, and I've been working in web design for a decade
[11:40] <LoneShadow> oh so you have windows and linux installed on the same hdd ?
[11:40] <rait> sorry im abit of a newbie when it comes to linux
[11:40] <KrisWood> so I've used a lot of clients
[11:40] <KrisWood> hehe
[11:41] <rait> no on different ones
[11:41] <rtg> subiraj check the audio vedio delay
[11:41] <dre> HELP!!!  When i type sudo all i get is  sudo: timestamp too far in the future:
[11:41] <subiraj> rtg: where is it?
[11:42] <subiraj> in the settings i ve tried everything but it doesn't work
[11:42] <rtg> subiraj press + or - buttons
[11:42] <ube> hey guys. when i do an apt-get for pureftpd. i get an error "couldn't find package pureftpd"
[11:42] <ube> all i want to do is install an ftp program
[11:42] <rtg> subiraj while playing the vedio
[11:42] <subiraj> okk i will try it
[11:43] <subiraj> but i think its something more serious
[11:43] <rtg> giv details
[11:43] <ube> can someone help me with apt-get?
[11:43] <sktrdie> HEllo
[11:44] <Lynoure> dre: man sudo is helpful on that, I think
[11:44] <subiraj> then after a few minutes of slow play there is a msg.. too many buffers
[11:44] <rait> so can anyone help me?
[11:44] <subiraj> srry too many frames in buffer
[11:44] <subiraj> folloowed by numbers like 33455 in 34534354
[11:44] <sktrdie> I just bought a new HD, fdisk sees it, but how do I partition in so I can mount it?
[11:44] <subiraj> or something like that n player has to be stopped
[11:45] <Hoxzer> is there anyway to make shortcut that will open terminal -> connect to ssh server -> login and run command on it automatically ?
[11:46] <subiraj> ube  what exactly do u want
[11:46] <sktrdie> can anyone help me partitioning my new HD so I can mount it in linux?
[11:48] <dre> the man page on sudo explains the problem but doesn't say how to fix :(
[11:48] <rait> can anyone help me with my partition problem ?
[11:48] <micktm> Hi! Someone knows a compiler for fortran 90?
[11:49] <ube> hey guys. I'm trying to apt-get filezilla but i get an error "Couldn't find package filzilla"
[11:49] <bbrazil> micktm: there's a gcc backend for fortran, not sure which version though
[11:49] <subiraj> sktddie... goto system-> adm-> discs
[11:49] <micktm> I found g77 and gfortran for 77 and 95
[11:49] <drumline_> Hoxzer: the ssh man page explains what you're asking for.
[11:50] <Snellgrove> ube - I can't find a filezilla in the repositories, I think you'll need to compile or find a deb from somewhere else
[11:50] <ube> snellgrove: i dont know how to compile :[
[11:50] <Healot> micktm: gfortran then...
[11:50] <Snellgrove> sktrdie: are you doing a new install at all
[11:51] <Snellgrove> or from the live CD?
[11:51] <Snellgrove> like the 6.06 desktop CD
[11:51] <rait> anyone?
[11:51] <Snellgrove> rait:  what's the problem?  I don't know if I can help, but I can try :)
[11:51] <sktrdie> Snellgrove: I already have linux, I just need this new HD for storage
[11:51] <elknof3_> hello
[11:51] <micktm> ok, but doesn't read f90 files....
[11:52] <elknof3_> i have a problem with wine
[11:52] <subiraj> sktrdie... goto system-> adm-> discs
[11:52] <Snellgrove> ah might be quite easily, sktrdie  - do a sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:52] <Healot> micktm: get MS Fotran then, hehe
[11:52] <micktm> or better, it reads them, but I cant' execute the executables
[11:52] <Snellgrove> gparted = gnome partition editor or something, its quite nice to use :)
[11:52] <micktm> but I'm under linux
[11:52] <sktrdie> subiraj: I am in, but can't seem to get it mounted yet
[11:52] <Snellgrove> you will basically select your new disk in the list, and then can easily create a new partition
[11:52] <Healot> micktm: what was the exact error?
[11:53] <LoneShadow> rait: if you ares still looking to solve your partition problem, describe what your hdd partitions are like
[11:53] <rait> well i have 2 seperate Hd's and one runs windows with 40 gig and another one that runs linux ubuntu with 80 gig and i want to resize the linux one to have free space to use for my windows partition
[11:53] <subiraj> select ur hard disc n goto partitions tab
[11:53] <micktm> Fortran Runtime Error: no such file or directory
[11:53] <subiraj> there u will have a format button...
[11:53] <sktrdie> subirajsubiraj; I am there
[11:53] <Healot> what was the command line?
[11:54] <Snellgrove> rait: there'll be some kind of bootable (on a CD) partition editor you can use.
[11:54] <micktm> but because it's a sintax error, he search a fortran95 code, but the code is in f95
[11:54] <LoneShadow> rait: are you booted in linux right now ?
[11:54] <rait> yes
[11:54] <subiraj> sktrdie does it work???
[11:54] <LoneShadow> can you check how many partitions are currently created ?
[11:54] <bbrazil> LoneShadow: cat /proc/partitions
[11:54] <OrTigaS> hi! how can i upgrade to 6.06 thru synaptic?
[11:54] <rait> 3 i think
[11:55] <Gimp`> hey
[11:55] <rait> yeah 3
[11:55] <Gimp`> i installed ubuntu the other day and now im having problems installing windows xp
[11:55] <LoneShadow> rait: what are the sizes of those 3 ?
[11:56] <rait> one is 74.842 mb and both others are 1.475 mb
[11:56] <Gimp`> i was reading about how the 2.6 kernel can mess up the mbr making windows unable to boot so i ran the windows recovery console and did "fixmbr" and "fixboot" but it didnt help
[11:56] <OrTigaS> you better to install first the windows before the linux
[11:56] <Gimp`> anyone know how to fix it?
[11:56] <sktrdie> subiraj: there's a wierd list of partitions
[11:56] <sktrdie> subiraj: the first says Free space
[11:56] <LoneShadow> rait
[11:56] <Gimp`> OrTigaS: my hdd died and i didnt have a working windows xp cd :(
[11:56] <transgress> okay i'm having a weird problem with my ALPS touchpad.  i had it all nice and neat but now, when i click on something, i have to move my mouse before it actually clicks
[11:56] <sktrdie> subiraj: and the second (the one I created) says there's no free space.
[11:57] <LoneShadow> rait: double check your partitions :D, you should see your 80GB
[11:57] <subiraj> ya thats what is ro be partioned
[11:57] <subiraj> wat?
[11:57] <subiraj> sktrdie explain a lil
[11:57] <OrTigaS> theres a lot windows xp installation... you know that :)
[11:58] <Gimp`> so does anyone know how to fix it so i can install and boot to windows?
[11:59] <rait> well thats what i see here really when i check my partitions
[11:59] <teclis> Hello, my USB-Disk ist formatted with FAT32 and will be mounted with utf-8-charset. How can I mount it with another charset like 8859-1?
[11:59] <subiraj> sktrdie did u select the new hard disc???
[11:59] <Healot> teclis: absolutely
[11:59] <ScottiNailon> eobanb: can we talk in msg windows?
[11:59] <subiraj> it shoud be formatted first b4 any free space?
[12:00] <OrTigaS> hi! how can i upgrade to 6.06 thru synaptic?
[12:00] <ScottiNailon> brb - making hot milo :)
[12:00] <nmsa> how do I know what sound modules to lead ?
[12:00] <LoneShadow> rait: when you do cat /proc/partitions, what does the first line say ? mine says " 3     0   39082680 hda" thats 40gb on /dev/hda
[12:00] <nmsa> load
[12:01] <KrisWood> how do i get the xvid codec for linux?
[12:01] <sktrdie> subiraj: thanks for thehelp, I had partition it wrong
[12:01] <teclis> Healot: ?
[12:01] <LoneShadow> rait: also you can type "df" to see which partition you can shrink, check the usage
[12:01] <rait> it says the exact same number
[12:01] <subiraj> ok my peasure...
[12:02] <LoneShadow> rait: paste the first line from /proc/paritions
[12:02] <rait> 3     0   39082680 hda
[12:02] <LoneShadow> so you are using 40gb hdd for your linux, not the 80 gig one ?
[12:02] <ytripppy> does anyone have a xbox and runs XBMC?
[12:03] <teclis> Healot: The problem is, that Windows doesn't use utf-8. And I use the HDD to share data between different pcs
[12:03] <LoneShadow> oh never mind, you have 2 hdds, do you hdb as well ?
[12:03] <LoneShadow> see*
[12:03] <rait> yes
[12:03] <LoneShadow> that I am guessing is 80gb,
[12:03] <rait> 3    64   78150744 hdb
[12:04] <raldi> When i mount an NFS drive, it takes several minutes .. looking at the packet dumps, it seems the server is trying to send UDP packets to my sunrpc port (111) but i'm sending back "port unreachable"
[12:04] <LoneShadow> right, and do you see hdb1, hdb2,.. ?
[12:04] <Healot> teclis: on the option column, change "utf-8" to "iso8859-1", remount
[12:04] <rait> hdb1 and hdb5
[12:04] <raldi> I'm using a stock Ubuntu kernel. Do i need to compile my own with some special option, or maybe install a package?
[12:04] <LoneShadow> what does it say when you type df ?
[12:05] <podgo> hi everybody
[12:05] <rait> about hdb?
[12:05] <KrisWood> how do I use apt to find a package name?
[12:05] <Healot> raldi: a few ways to do that
[12:05] <podgo> apt-cache search
[12:05] <mrmist> I can't get JACK to work..
[12:05] <KrisWood> thanks
[12:05] <podgo> and the name you wanna search
[12:06] <raldi> healot: to do what? did you see my first message too or just my second?
[12:06] <rait> /dev/hdb1             75434976   1802068  69801008   3% /
[12:06] <Healot> teclis: on the option column, change "utf-8" to "iso8859-1", remount (file /etc/fstab)
[12:07] <LoneShadow> what about hdb5 ?
[12:07] <podgo> how can help me for a usb keyboard issue on dapper ?
[12:07] <rait> it doesnt shoz there
[12:07] <KrisWood> how do I find an xvid codec for ubuntu?
[12:07] <rait> show*
[12:07] <LoneShadow> ok so you just one single root partition :D
[12:07] <ScottiNailon> errr anyone here ok with NETWORKING ?
[12:07] <raldi> never mind, i got it: NFS mounting took forever because i hadn't installed the "portmap" package
[12:07] <ScottiNailon> I am having some CRAP probz :(
[12:08] <LoneShadow> rait: you sure you dont want reinstall linux ?
[12:08] <LeaChim> ScottiNailon, what's the problem?
[12:08] <podgo> i am a network administrator ask me if you want sCottiNailon
[12:09] <LoneShadow> rait: you need to boot from a cd, and use parted on /dev/hdb1 to resize it
[12:09] <ScottiNailon> podgo & LeaChim: I installed Ubuntum, whilst installing the system picked up my networking automatically, but now, well it aint picking up at all, I have some logs to show but not in channel...
[12:09] <teclis> Healot: their is no entry in fstab. hmm, because it's an automounted usb-disk?
[12:10] <rait> hmm
[12:10] <podgo> i have just an issue on my laptop with an ortek usb keyboard ! .....on the 2.6.12 it works but not on the 2.6.15 from dapper drake : / so no usb keyb that smell like bullshit
[12:10] <azi`> hello, i have problems with my PCMCIA card.. i've plugged a WLAN card into the laptop (Asus 100g Deluxe) but , now i really don't know what should i seek for ? is there any conf wizard for that?
[12:10] <rait> ok i4ll do thqt then
[12:10] <podgo> who can help me:p
[12:10] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, if you have logs and the like then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is a good place to put them
[12:10] <teclis> Healot: how should the entry look like?
[12:10] <rait> i'll
[12:10] <rait> *
[12:10] <LoneShadow> rait: you could try using parition magic from window, it might do the trick too
[12:10] <LoneShadow> windows*
[12:10] <rait> can i access it through there?
[12:10] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: nah just short logs :)
[12:11] <rait> well i'll give it a go
[12:11] <podgo> do a lsmod azi
[12:11] <Kengur> hi, how can i mount vfat rw for any user?
[12:11] <rait> thanks for the help loneshadow
[12:11] <KrisWood> I guess no one knows how to get xvid running on here? :(
[12:11] <ScottiNailon> podgo: any ideas why it is not picking up the network?
[12:11] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, in ubuntu check from the menu -  System Administration Networking - paste.ubuntu-nl.org is for anything over 2 lines with an enter
[12:12] <ScottiNailon> errr.
[12:12] <nmsa> I have problems with my sound card, I can't get it working in my new amd kernel 2.6.15-25. how do I know what modules to load ?
[12:12] <LoneShadow> rait: I have not used partition magic in a long time, it might do the resizing, try it if you have the software
[12:13] <ScottiNailon> would it have anything to do with ip6 being there and not ip4?
[12:13] <LoneShadow> rait: if that fails, boot from a linux cd and run parted on /dev/hdb1, and that will let you shrink the parition
[12:13] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, it should show both, are we talking wireless or wired?
[12:14] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: wired but it is not showing ip4 just ip6....
[12:14] <azi`> 
[12:14] <ScottiNailon> WORKSTATIOM---> SWITCH -----> ADSL Modem
[12:14] <ScottiNailon> Switch is wireless but I am wired to it.
[12:15] <folk> Hi
[12:15] <mada> hello
[12:15] <mrmist> Hi guys :)
[12:15] <drumline_> how many folks have used GParted to resize an NTFS partition?
[12:15] <mrmist> I'm getting this error-message: " open /dev/snd/seq failed"
[12:15] <mada> drumline_: i haven't but i have read alot about it, what's up?
[12:15] <Healot> i used fdisk... it's devilish
[12:15] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, open a terminal (Applications Accessories Terminal) and issue this command >> sudo dhclient  << please do not use caps in irc - it is considered shouting :-)
[12:15] <drumline_> mada: just curious... i will try it in a few days.
[12:16] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: sorry
[12:16] <drumline_> need some time...
[12:16] <folk> podgo , wanna lick me?
[12:16] <podgo> zogzog
[12:16] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, you did not know before you do know ;-)
[12:16] <mada> drumline_: everything i have heard is that it is an incredible tool and resizes like a pro
[12:16] <mada> folk: lets not be dirty
[12:16] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: yes I tried that... but it didnt do what I needed, it didnt work.
[12:16] <folk> ubuntu is for lamer no?
[12:17] <podgo> can you help me dude folk !
[12:17] <drumline_> folk: who says?
[12:17] <ompaul> no more folk easy
[12:17] <podgo> i have big issue on my F ubuntu :/
[12:17] <KrisWood> Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[12:17] <KrisWood> :(
[12:18] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[12:18] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB
[12:19] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, so ehh is the router handing out more than one IP?
[12:19] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: you said to sudo dhclient eth0, but that doesnt work...
[12:20] <kane77> i have a problem with totem... it always opens up below the upper panel (the titlebar is under panel) no matter how I leave it.... it's pretty annoying... how can I make it open normally????
[12:20] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, not what I said - what I said was sudo dhclient (I'll accept packets on any interface ;-))
[12:21] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: no it is just handing out one IP, which is for this one workstation
[12:21] <drumline_> ScottiNailon: is it an internal or external address?   does any other computer do it OK?
[12:21] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, then how do you expect to get a connection - turn off the work station turn on ubuntu and if you have bandwidth you have a router config issue
[12:21] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: i am getting sick of rebooting back to linux and then when it doesnt work i gotta reboot to windows to get in irc :(
[12:22] <ScottiNailon> drumline_: internal IP - 192.168.0.2
[12:22] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, one box for all
[12:22] <satempler> how do I set the time from the command line
[12:22] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, I had taken it for two
[12:22] <satempler> my servers time is whaked
[12:22] <Gullstad> how do you send a message to another klient trough SSH?
[12:22] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: I can access internet in M$ WINDOWS, but when I boot linux it wont connect - it doesnt get a IP :(
[12:22] <mada> satempler: is it a PowerPC server?
[12:23] <satempler> mada: no
[12:23] <drumline_> satempler: scotti: does your network adapter show "UP" in caps when you do a "ifconfig" ?
[12:23] <drumline_> ScottiNailon: ^^
[12:23] <mada> satempler: oh .. nvm, i just seem to have time issues with my iBook, and from google research it is apparently a PowerPC thing
[12:23] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: does it matter if it only had ip6 in hosts?
[12:23] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, no that is expected behaviour
[12:23] <filleokus> Hi, do u most to edit some settings file for Apache to make it work on internet, it only works on the lan network now?
[12:24] <mrmist> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed
[12:24] <satempler> ya
[12:24] <filleokus> My router etc is allright
[12:24] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, how many ethernet cards has it got?
[12:24] <drumline_> filleokus: does your box have a gateway set?
[12:24] <ScottiNailon> drumline & satempler: not sure :( I might have to log a few things and come back, my last log didnt take :(
[12:24] <filleokus> DHCP
[12:24] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: 1
[12:24] <Gullstad> how do you send a message to another klient trough SSH?
[12:24] <filleokus> drumline, DHCP
[12:24] <satempler> ???
[12:25] <drumline_> ScottiNailon: make sure the card is reporting the "UP" state...  if not, 'ifup eth0'
[12:25] <mada> Gullstad: uhmmm... elaborate more on exactly what you are trying to do?
[12:25] <drumline_> sometimes, the card wont start up on boot.
[12:25] <satempler> can some one help me set the time on my server
[12:25] <morphix> hmm..
[12:25] <ScottiNailon> drumline_: thanks I will try that too :)
[12:25] <drumline_> satan: do you have ntpdate ?
[12:25] <mada> satempler: sudo hwclock --set "<time>"
[12:25] <satempler> thanks
[12:26] <ScottiNailon> any other ideas, would it matter about the ip6 thing in hosts?
[12:26] <morphix> hm.
[12:26] <Gullstad> mada: You know the message you get up when you halt, or shutdown. I just want to send a message that shows on the remote machines screen.
[12:26] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, check out this document -> http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[12:26] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: thanks man :)
[12:26] <mada> Gullstad: ohhh, like an motd?
[12:26] <drumline_> Gullstad: echo "This ship is going down suckas!!" | wall
[12:27] <Gullstad> lets try that :)
[12:27] <kane77> i have a problem with totem... it always opens up below the upper panel (the titlebar is under panel) no matter how I leave it.... it's pretty annoying... how can I make it open normally????
[12:27] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, the only time I have not seen system admin netoworking and clicking on enable not work was with a faulty network card
[12:27] <Gullstad> thanks :)
[12:27] <pom> hello, when my laptop uses battery, the HD spins down frequently, when it spins up, it makes a little beep noise, somebody with the same problem?
[12:27] <mada> Gullstad: np :)
[12:28] <drumline_> Gullstad: welcome.  :)  You might be able to pipe the echo to "shutdown" but it's been a while since I've done that, so check the docs on shutdown to be sure.
[12:28] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: it doesnt feel seem faulty right now :)
[12:28] <transgress> pom what does dmesg say after it happens?
[12:28] <mada> pom: what kind of laptop? ... brand, make, model, etc. (x86, ppc, amd64?)
[12:28] <Gullstad> drumline_: Think its possible whit shutdown -k
[12:28] <pom> mada: dell inspiron 6400
[12:28] <mada> pom: one moment please
[12:28] <aidehua> I'm using a non-GNOME desktop, but would like to load the GTK-theme-settings to make my GTK apps look pretty.  The default is rubbish!  How can I do this?
[12:29] <mathieu_> aidehua: run gnome-settings-daemon
[12:29] <drumline_> Gullstad: actually, no.  It should work without -k
[12:29] <ScottiNailon> ok i am rebooting to play a bit :)
[12:29] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, well we had this card and it would work intermittently and it died but there ya go - and it could be that it does not like talking 100% correctly
[12:29] <pom> transgress: no messages in dmesg
[12:29] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, pring that page first
[12:29] <Goshawk> hi, is it normal that my dvd rw driver is deleting a cdrom form 1:24 (not 1 minute but 1 hour)
[12:29] <drumline_> Gullstad: simply pipe the echo command to shutdown and it should wall everybody and then shutdown according to your shutdown switches
[12:29] <Goshawk> ?
[12:29] <transgress> pom:  dmesg says nothing or nothing that applies?
[12:29] <pom> mada: found some stuff on the forum, but not using acpi is no option for me
[12:29] <aidehua> mathieu_: gnome-settings-daemon undoes a lot of my personal settings -- xset -b, font paths etc.  Is there a simpler way of initialising GTK with a theme?
[12:29] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: pring?
[12:30] <pom> transgress: nothing that applies of course
[12:30] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, print even
[12:30] <ScottiNailon> ahhh
[12:30] <ScottiNailon> ok
[12:30] <mathieu_> aidehua: no idea...that's the way i did it
[12:30] <mrmist> Anyone experienced with ALSA here ??
[12:30] <ScottiNailon> ok
[12:30] <mada> pom: no, you definitely need acpi ...
[12:30] <Healot> mrmist: we don't create ALSA, but it's not hurting if you ask
[12:31] <mrmist> Healot: I can't get it to work
[12:31] <mrmist> I really don't understand the connection between ALSA and JACK
[12:31] <Healot> mrmist: run the sound test yet?
[12:32] <mrmist> Healot: What sound test ?
[12:32] <Healot> btw are you trying to play mp3 or something?
[12:32] <mada> pom: i just did a quick scan of linux-laptop.net and i didn't really see any issue with the hdd under ubuntu on the inspiron 6400 core duo
[12:32] <mirak> anyone tried spiftacity already ?
[12:32] <mrmist> Healot: I'm trying to get a music-program up and running..
[12:32] <jdmpike> I have a question about .Xauthority - whenever I try to add my MAGIC-COOKIE so I can start things on display :1.0, it only lasts for a single session... Is there a way i can make it persistent
[12:32] <Healot> btw are you trying to play mp3 or something?
[12:32] <ytripppy> does anyone have a xbox and runs XBMC?
[12:32] <mrmist> Healot: The sounds in kubuntu works nice
[12:32] <filleokus> Hi, do u most to edit some settings file for Apache to make it work on internet, it only works on the lan network now?
[12:33] <visik7> hi
[12:33] <mrmist> Healot: I'm using Amarok, and it works nice :)
[12:33] <jdmpike> filleokus, you modify the httpd.conf file
[12:33] <filleokus> jdmpike, how?
[12:33] <ytripppy> how can i setup ubuntu to download updates 1am-5am ?
[12:34] <jdmpike> filleokus, check out FAQ on http://www.apache.org and goto the HTTP server link
[12:35] <mada> filleokus: what command did you use to start the server daemon?
[12:35] <filleokus> mada, /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:35] <achandra> hello.
[12:35] <filleokus> mada, but this dosent matter or does it?
[12:36] <mada> filleokus: yeah, then you need to edit the httpd.conf file
[12:36] <drumline_> filleokus: does your box have a gateway?
[12:36] <zawa> Can someone please tell me what's the good program for usb camera?
[12:36] <tof> hi guys, is 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/mail' the right command to find which package provide the 'mail' executable??
[12:36] <mada> zawa: web cam or digital?
[12:36] <filleokus> drumline, yes it does, a router
[12:36] <zawa> web cam
[12:36] <drumline_> filleokus: can it access the net?
[12:36] <Healot> zawa: get a compatible camera first :)
[12:36] <filleokus> the router or the box?
[12:36] <drumline_> does it have a real world address or private address?
[12:37] <drumline_> the box
[12:37] <mada> zawa: what cam do you have (make and model)
[12:37] <filleokus> drumline_, private
[12:37] <achandra> There has been probably many discussion about this but after much playing around finally got my bcm4318 wireless driver for Gateway MX7118. If anyone is having issue with this id be glad to help..by the way..bcm4318 fails pretty bad with bcm-fwcutter.
[12:37] <Gimp`> hey, i installed ubuntu and then windows and im unable to boot up windows. anyone know how i can fix the mbr so that windows will boot?
[12:37] <zawa> i can get it going with gnome meeting but it's not very clear.
[12:37] <drumline_> filleokus: ...and you cannot access the http server through the router from the net?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !tell Gimp` about grub
[12:37] <zawa> I was wondering if there are any better program apart from gnomemeeting
[12:37] <MenZa> !grub
[12:37] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:37] <Gimp`> grub doesnt fix it
[12:38] <filleokus> drumline, exactly,via the internal ip it works but not trough the net
[12:38] <MenZa> Hobbsee: you're too fast :\
[12:38] <Hobbsee> :P
[12:38] <Remy> hey, anyone gotten an iriver working on ubuntu before ?
[12:38] <Gimp`> ive used grub but i get an error
[12:38] <filleokus> Remy, yes
[12:38] <filleokus> ifp-line
[12:38] <filleokus> check that out
[12:38] <mada> achandra: it works like a freaking champ on my iBookG4 airport extreme card, i know its not the same chipset, but pretty much the same hack job to make it work
[12:38] <Gimp`> root (hd 0,0)
[12:38] <Gimp`> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[12:38] <Gimp`> chainloader +1
[12:38] <Gimp`> then it just hangs there
[12:38] <Remy> filleokus - man ifp-line ?
[12:38] <drumline_> filleokus: check your port forwards on the router... what kind of router?
[12:38] <filleokus> Remy, no google
[12:38] <Remy> k
[12:39] <zawa> mada, any ideas?
[12:39] <filleokus> drumline, they are right i think there are something in the apache settings
[12:39] <drumline_> filleokus: another thing... it's a bad idea to run internet-facing servers on an internal network.
[12:39] <filleokus> mada says that i should edit httpd.conf file
[12:39] <filleokus> but how
[12:39] <mada> zawa: not that i know of ... but then again i haven't really done alot of checking around .... lemme look something up real fast
[12:39] <Gimp`> anyone have any ideas on how to fix my mbr? :P
[12:39] <mrmist> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716193
[12:39] <filleokus> drumline, yes sure, but i have to, it is just like a small private server :D
[12:39] <achandra> mada: I literally tried all inf files from gateway and other vendors and their sys files....it failed miserabbly until i used an cer developed driver for bcm4318 64 bit with ndis...then it worked great..
[12:39] <filleokus> nothing serious
[12:40] <drumline_> filleokus: shutdown the http server...  config ssh to run on port 80...  then try to connect from the net...
[12:40] <mada> filleokus: follow the apache link that jdm gave you earlier and edit it with the text editor of your choice
[12:40] <achandra> mada: the deb installer in ubuntu wiki now has "message 4318 detected..this is known to have issues with cutter"
[12:40] <filleokus> mada, i cant find anything there
[12:40] <drumline_> filleokus: doesn't matter...  if you run an internet-facing server on a standard port, YOU WILL be swept by a scanner looking to exploit you .
[12:40] <CrippsFX> achandra, you have a working 64 bit bcm4318 working?
[12:40] <mada> achandra: ohhh yeah, thats the one that ships with amd64, a tad different ... sorry, i was thinking fwcutter ... yeah, bcmcutter sucks
[12:41] <zawa> mada,  okay thanks.
[12:41] <filleokus> drumline, ok, but one thing first
[12:41] <mada> achandra: i would say write a tutorial and post it in the forums for easy viewing
[12:41] <achandra> mada: cool...where do I post up...do have the link?
[12:42] <mada> zawa: nope, poking around the forums breifly, it seems gnomemeeting is the best there is
[12:42] <tof> hello, how can I find to which package belong 'mail' ? (dpkg -S /usr/bin/mail does nothing)
[12:42] <mrmist> Healot: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/716193
[12:42] <Anderson> What is the command to view installed packages?
[12:43] <zawa> mada, okay thanks,.  no worries. cheers.
[12:43] <tof> Anderson, dpkg -l
[12:43] <Anderson> THANK YOU!
[12:43] <mada> achandra: www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:43] <CrippsFX> achandra, wow. that made me look like I don't speak english. What I *meant* to say is: do you have a bcm4318 working on a 64 bit install?
[12:43] <Anderson> I tried to figure that out for about an hour yesterday
[12:43] <PS> can someone help me with a grub q.  i've moved my root partition, how do i get grub-install to take note of this permanently?  at the moment grub creates a menu.lst with the wrong root locations?
[12:43] <mada> achandra: i'm sure someone will love that the instructions are posted, just as i did when i went to get my iBooks airport extreme card working
[12:43] <stefg> Hmm, the searchbar in firefox isn't 'localized'. Searching e.g. for a wikipedia entry always looks in the english wikipedia, not the germen (in my case).  How do I change that?
[12:44] <achandra> CrippsFX: I got it working with NDIS
[12:44] <achandra> does that still count??
[12:44] <CrippsFX> achandra, ah. dang.
[12:44] <achandra> lol
[12:44] <CrippsFX> ;)
[12:44] <tof> Anderson, once you know it, you don't forget it :-) You can do "dpkg -l "*xserver*" if you want to search for some pattern
[12:44] <drumline_> PS: if you want to mess with grub, you'll need to read a how-to...
[12:44] <drumline_> It's not difficult, but it's not easy either...
[12:44] <CrippsFX> achandra, I've got mine working sporradically on ndis. and bcm43xx ... yish.
[12:44] <BockBilbo> hey there
[12:44] <croftyboy_31> hi , i am trying to share a printer connected on my windows 2000 machine over a network to this ubuntu 5.02 machine , having problems with smbclient
[12:44] <BockBilbo> :S
[12:45] <BockBilbo> perhaps i had a grub question
[12:45] <achandra> CrippsFX: it was a bitch...Im on now with it..and it is functioning
[12:45] <PS> drumline_ ok, i was trying to free up some time so i can catch up with the sunday paper rather than geeking it up on the web :-)
[12:45] <CrippsFX> achandra, without any weird behaviour?
[12:45] <mada> croftyboy_31: upgrade to dapper... then you shouldn't have any problems .... i think 5.02 either stopped being supported or has old packages
[12:46] <BockBilbo> i have installed vista on a partition on my laptop and it has remove grub from the mrb... ive tried to recover grub using grub-install with a previous chroot command for my ubuntu partition and it did not work, neither a manual grub shell configuration
[12:46] <mada> croftyboy_31: ooooor, lemme go check something and i will get back to you
[12:46] <smacky_wolf> How do I get my kernel source? Is it in apt? If not, what do I do to get it?
[12:46] <croftyboy_31> thank mada
[12:46] <BockBilbo> any of you had this problem before?
[12:46] <achandra> CrippsFX: Im using it in conjunction with NetworkManager and WPAsupplicant and so far so good.
[12:46] <tof> oh boys, dpkg -S works. I only had to be patient so that the result shows up... I have to use slow computers from times to times...
[12:46] <achandra> CrippsFX: and that is WPA-personal with Tkip that is
[12:46] <Seveas> smacky_wolf, apt-get install linux-sourc-2.6.15
[12:46] <drumline_> PS: yeah...  I understand...  moving partitions requires a little finesse...   there might be a way to run a grub config when you have the OS running...   do a little searching along that angle...
[12:46] <croftyboy_31> mada i would rather keep this version now after spending months getting it all working with thunderbird etc
[12:47] <filleokus> jdmpike, can u please give me a hint, i dont find any info there :(
[12:47] <achandra> CrippsFX:what weird oddities are you witnessing?
[12:47] <smacky_wolf> Seveas, thanks =3
[12:47] <drumline_> PS: forums will likely have an angle for you..
[12:47] <drumline_> PS: you're definitely not the first guy to do this..
[12:47] <mada> croftyboy_31: ok, then i will need a few minutes
[12:48] <PS> drumlin_, no i know, thanks
[12:48] <croftyboy_31> ok
[12:48] <ytripppy> how can i setup ubuntu to download updates 1am-5am ?
[12:48] <CrippsFX> achandra, random dropouts, and not being able to see my AP.
[12:48] <ScottiNailon> windows again :(
[12:48] <ompaul> !grub
[12:48] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:48] <drumline_> ytripppy: you know the command line command to do updates?
[12:48] <Graham> windows :P
[12:48] <CrippsFX> achandra, and occasionally, being able to see my AP, and seeminly being able to connect to it, but not being able to use the internet.
[12:48] <mada> croftyboy_31: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html <--that should help
[12:49] <CrippsFX> *seemingly
[12:49] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: I have a rtf file with logs of what i tried and what i got back... wanna see?
[12:49] <achandra> CrippsFX: Im using one of those Airlink101 AR325W with the latest firmware and no problems for more than two hours now.
[12:49] <croftyboy_31> thx
[12:49] <mada> ScottiNailon: welcome to my world
[12:49] <CrippsFX> achandra, email me in a week if it still works ;)
[12:49] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, txt is better - put the contents on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:49] <ScottiNailon> mada: what do you mean?
[12:50] <ScottiNailon> how will you find it?
[12:50] <mada> ScottiNailon: about hating windows
[12:50] <aidehua> mathieu_: interesting gnome-settings-daemon font-fiddling issues (and use of xset -fp rehash) here, just in case it interests you :) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.ion.general/6450
[12:50] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, you will give me a url
[12:50] <ScottiNailon> oh ok kewl
[12:50] <achandra> CrippsFX: I also have one of those Hawking antennas and its good. But will do on the testing...and test for a week. If its still good Ill post up
[12:50] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, just try it, it is how we have done over 10k worth of materials
[12:50] <achandra> and send an email
[12:50] <CrippsFX> achandra, awesome. thanks. :)
[12:50] <achandra> np
[12:50] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, just try it, it is how we have done over 10k worth of files and whatever
[12:50] <CrippsFX> achandra, I'll pm you my gmail address?
[12:51] <drumline_> ytripppy: yo
[12:52] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15898
[12:52] <achandra> yep
[12:52] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: is that what you needed?
[12:53] <drumline_> ytripppy: sucka...  I can help you defeat them!!
[12:53] <mitjab> hello
[12:53] <mitjab> can someone tell me how i can change shell login message
[12:53] <mada> hiya mitjab
[12:53] <drumline_> /etc/motd
[12:53] <mada> mitjab: motd
[12:53] <drumline_> edit that file
[12:53] <mitjab> thx for so quick answer
[12:53] <mada> :) we try
[12:54] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[12:54] <lin> the fucking gtk+ maintainer should fix this
[12:54] <drumline_> mitjab: now you must sit in here for 1 hour and answer questions to repay your ubuntu debt.  :)
[12:54] <ytripppy> how do i time a task to run?
[12:54] <mitjab> if i will know no problem:D
[12:54] <drumline_> lin: have you contacted them?
[12:54] <drumline_> ytripppy: dude.. I asked you a question...
[12:54] <mada> lin: it actually just popped back up with the latest update ... it was gone for a release
[12:55] <drumline_> ytripppy: don't ask a question and then ignore replies...
[12:55] <mada> ytripppy: chron
[12:55] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: did you get that link ?
[12:55] <ScottiNailon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15898
[12:55] <drumline_> ytri
[12:55] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, yes - please I am writing a comment
[12:55] <ScottiNailon> thanks
[12:56] <mada> ytripppy: cron* .... http://www.scrounge.org/linux/cron.html
[12:56] <pom> mada: I am back, do you have find something about the hd spinoff stuff?
[12:56] <drumline_> ytripppy needs to speak up a bit before I can help him.. :(
[12:57] <ytripppy> sorry. very stoned.
[12:57] <achandra> lol
[12:57] <ytripppy> chron?
[12:57] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, next suggestion is >>sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 << (assuming that is your ip at this time) and see if you can do this, in a terminal >> ping 64.233.183.104 << if that works then you have network connection, have you a live CD?
[12:57] <mada> pom: lol, yeah i posted a couple links a while ago ... or atleast i thought i did, but anyways ... i searched some ubuntu on dell inspiron 6400 pages and nobody reported the problem, i might contact dell and don't mention that its running linux, i bet they replace the drive
[12:58] <drumline_> ytripppy: in that case, come back when you're not stoned...  You're wasting my time.
[12:58] <mada> ytripppy: cron* -->  http://www.scrounge.org/linux/cron.html
[12:58] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: I have a CD, I just installed from it. But when I rebooted into the HDD system it didnt network :(
[12:59] <pom> mada: I'm 99% sure that it will be the same when they replace it
[12:59] <cjk> hi, what the best way to configure a pptp vpn. is there any nice gui tool?
[12:59] <pom> since it doesn't make that sound in winxp
[12:59] <achandra> OH YEAH.....a question for you guys....i know in some other distros you can "alias" an ethernet interface and change the order it comes up and to which ehternet driver you want etc..etc.. but all i could find is the /etc/network/interfaces..is there a slick way of manually editing all that stuff?and id use it for such things as ethernet bonding etc...
[12:59] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, so you can check the values of the "networking files I asked you to print out eariler" - frankly if that does not work then you have a bad card
[12:59] <pom> mada: please take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86025&page=2&highlight=dell+beep
[01:00] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, regardless of what windows kludges to get around it
[01:00] <mada> pom: just a moment, i am reading ...
[01:00] <dixie> hi guys
[01:00] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, ethernet has been alive in unix and linux since the dawn of time ;-) so I do point a very stern finger at the networking card
[01:01] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: so if all else fails I just boot into the LIVE CD and check the network value? what file do i check for the values?
[01:01] <aLPHa_LeaK> oi!
[01:01] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, check out this document -> http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html   <--- it tells lots
[01:01] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, print it and keep it at your side
[01:01] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: yes I understand, although when I boot from the CDROM the network works, so I beleive that it si ACTUALLY a config prob.
[01:01] <drumline_> when in doubt, just toss another network card in there and try it....
[01:02] <ompaul> mitjab, DON'T use auto away messages like that in this channel - thanks
[01:02] <pom> mada: the spinoff is controlled by laptop-mode here, it's 5 seconds
[01:02] <ScottiNailon> I have printed it.
[01:02] <drumline_> you can get them super cheap
[01:02] <mada> pom: looks like you need to read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21232
[01:02] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: ok i am going to reboot and try again...
[01:02] <ompaul> go for it
[01:02] <mada> pom: that apears to be peoples fix, also the post by canard says he fixed it
[01:02] <ScottiNailon> otherwise I will give up tonight....
[01:03] <ScottiNailon> see yah :)
[01:03] <pom> mada: not acpi=off ?
[01:03] <ScottiNailon> ompaul: if there is a way to change to ipv4 how owuld I do it?
[01:03] <mada> pom: no, don't tirn acpi off ... you need that on a lappu
[01:03] <mada> lappy*
[01:03] <mada> turn*
[01:03] <ytripppy> tankx mada
[01:03] <mada> .... bleh, its late ... i can't type
[01:03] <mada> ytripppy: np
[01:04] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, you are not getting it at all, if a new install it will try to do both
[01:04] <mada> i'll brb ....
[01:04] <ompaul> ScottiNailon, as long as you have done nothing to with the base install then it should work
[01:04] <pom> mada: ro pci=bios idle=halt acpi_sleep=s3_bios quiet splash <- so which will do the trick?
[01:05] <caHEk>   ?
[01:06] <ompaul> caHEk, in english please
[01:06] <caHEk> hello
[01:06] <drumline_> boodah
[01:06] <BockBilbo> quit
[01:06] <drumline_> hello
[01:06] <caHEk> how ca i install Nvidia driver to Unbuntu
[01:06] <ompaul> !nvidia
[01:06] <ubotu> well, nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:06] <folkert> hello people, after last nigth and the (eh my) search after BASH-ing i have to say, my head is bashed
[01:07] <drumline_> you read the bash man page?  :)
[01:07] <pom> mada: the pci=bios idle=halt acpi_sleep=s3_bios part
[01:07] <pom> mada: thx for help
[01:07] <folkert> yes i did and loads of other stuff on bashing
[01:07] <caHEk> i just downloaded last driver from Nvidia
[01:07] <caHEk> *.run extension
[01:07] <folkert> that's why my head zooms somtehing like bashhhhhh
[01:08] <folkert> ;)
[01:08] <drumline_> nice...  bash is an awesome shell
[01:08] <mada> pom: no prob, anytime
[01:08] <drumline_> I hear zsh is superior, but I haven't played with it much.
[01:08] <caHEk> how can i install this driver to Unbuntu 5.04
[01:08] <ompaul> caHEk, please check the message from ubotu - it tells you in detail we could not do in irc how to install and configure nvidia
[01:08] <folkert> sure is, and will get grip on it but i'm a starter with all this lower level stuff
[01:09] <drumline_> well... knowing how to do shell work will make linux heaps easier for you to get around in...
[01:09] <folkert> so if anybody have a pointer or url to a 'dummy only' page about bash i will be pleased
[01:09] <mada> caHEk: if you run ubuntu, there is no reason to download the .run from nvidia's website ... just sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:10] <folkert> yes indeed, that why i accept the sleepless nights ;)
[01:10] <ompaul> caHEk, I strongly suggest you get dapper drake 6.06 that is so different to the current distribution and it is not supported as and from October this year, on the other hand 6.06 is supported for the next three years on the desktop
[01:10] <drumline_> !bash
[01:10] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[01:10] <omz_zepher> Greetings, people.
[01:10] <drumline_> folkert: i'm certain that hell is already frozen over if google doesn't have at least 5 basic bash pages that are actuall helpful.
[01:10] <mada> hello omz_zepher
[01:10] <caHEk> is 6.06 better ?
[01:11] <drumline_> caHEk: that's the idea
[01:11] <folkert> yes google is very helpfull sofar
[01:11] <Frogzoo> caHEk: mostly, yes
[01:11] <pom> mada: should I make contact with dell technical support?
[01:11] <achandra> coming from suse world...i must say the documentation in the Ubuntu world is very very impressive.
[01:11] <pom> mada: and do I have to say it's a linux issue or not?
[01:11] <mada> ompaul: i thought dapper was supported for the next 5 years ... or is that just the server side?
[01:11] <ompaul> server
[01:11] <pom> anyway I will test the boot parameters first
[01:11] <omz_zepher> I`m wondering if anybody can help me. I just downloaded and burned the ubuntu live cd and when I boot it the screen goes black after a while and the monitor acts like it is suspended, asin the lights are saying there is no video feed.
[01:12] <mada> pom: if you talk to dell, don't mention linux ... it might void your warranty, but just be like "my hdd is causing beeping noises" and they should replace it, in theory
[01:12] <drumline_> omz_zepher: check the forums for that one...
[01:12] <folkert> linuxcommand.org helps a lot too
[01:12] <omz_zepher> ok, i`ll try
[01:12] <furriner> what is the root password on the latest ubuntu? when I "su" it asks for a password, blank doesn't work, my user password doesn't work, I need root access
[01:13] <ompaul> !root
[01:13] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:13] <ompaul> furriner, read that url from ubotu ;-)
[01:13] <furriner> ok
[01:13] <IsDis4Me> hello
[01:13] <achandra> omz_zepher: likely an X11 issue.
[01:13] <pradeep> Fuhi IsDis4Me
[01:13] <Adium> furriner, sudo or sudo su and user passwd
[01:13] <mada> omz_zepher: sounds like an X issue, boot the live cd again and if that happens try "ctrl+atl+F1" and see if you get a command line interface and then get back to me
[01:13] <IsDis4Me> Is there a good file sharing program for Linux?  i am operationally defining good as anything better than that P.O.S. Limewire!
[01:13] <drumline_> !squareroot
[01:13] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, drumline_
[01:13] <drumline_> !porn
[01:13] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, drumline_
[01:13] <drumline_> heh
[01:13] <ompaul> !bot
[01:13] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:14] <drumline_> !welfarechecks
[01:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, drumline_
[01:14] <ompaul> drumline_, please stop playing with the bot
[01:14] <omz_zepher> What should i search for?
[01:14] <mada> drumline_: what kind of bot is ubotu? (eggdrop, pybot, etc.)
[01:15] <drumline_> dunno...
[01:15] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[01:15] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions not the full complement of boot options but it is some of them
[01:15] <Seveas> mada, the curent ubotu is a blootbot
[01:15] <Seveas> but won't stay around for long
[01:15] <ompaul> omz_zepher,  read that url from ubotu ;-)
[01:15] <mada> Seveas: why not?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> mada: it's being destryed
[01:15] <Seveas> mada, there's a better replacment being buit
[01:15] <ompaul> it is going to be replaced - we have a new all powerful bot
[01:16] <ompaul> or something
[01:16] <mada> Seveas: interesting ... what language is it written in?
[01:16] <Seveas> python/supybot
[01:16] <mada> cool cool
[01:16] <ompaul> ubotu, will not be fit to see its code - it would not be able to parse it anyway
[01:16] <ubotu> ompaul: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:16] <Adanadar> Hi, I need some help with partitioning. I have a 20 gig hard disk that I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto, and leave a 5gig chunk as fat32 so that I can move files between ubuntu and xp. I'm having a nightmare with the manual edit partition table. Can anyone help?
[01:16] <achandra> time toget some zzzs later on guys
[01:16] <ompaul> see I told yez
[01:16] <mada> in like a week and a half i am soooo learning python hard core ... as soon as my summer class is over
[01:17] <omz_zepher> ok. i`m on the shell. what should I do now?
[01:17] <mada> Adanadar: of course
[01:17] <Adanadar> ty mada
[01:17] <ompaul> Adanadar, 20 gig and you want to split it - how much for each?
[01:17] <mada> Adanadar: 20gigs? ... hrmmm, mow much ram?
[01:17] <Adanadar> 256 ram
[01:17] <ompaul> omz_zepher, install lynx and read that url I gave
[01:18] <Adanadar> 15 gig ubuntu and 5 gig as fat32 is my ideal aim
[01:18] <drasko> http://pastebin.com/716229
[01:18] <mada> Adanadar: ok, heres what i would recommend, 5gb linux .. 5gb windows, 1gb swab ... the rest fat32 data
[01:18] <drasko> hi all. I have problems with broken pipes when want to install/remove some packages. How to solve this? Here is wha I pasted: http://pastebin.com/716229
[01:19] <ompaul> Adanadar, use ubuntu to install in 14.5 gigs of space and give yourself .5 of a gig for swap other than that leave it until the gui is up and running
[01:19] <killaz> uhmmm guys I have a problem.. installing an application
[01:19] <mada> Adanadar: you should only need about 2gigs for a full working ubuntu system, so we will give 5gb to handle any extra installed programs or updates ... you could even extend that a little larger if you like but i don't think you will need it, and then you want to have plenty of "dual-accessable" data partition, so your fat32 should be a decient size
[01:19] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[01:19] <lin> the fucking gtk+ maintainer should fix this
[01:20] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[01:20] <lin> the fucking gtk+ maintainer should fix this
[01:20] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[01:20] <lin> the fucking gtk+ maintainer should fix this
[01:20] <lin> THE "KEYBOARD LABEL" MENU ITEM BUG IS STILL NOT FIXED!!!
[01:20] <lin> the fucking gtk+ maintainer should fix this
[01:20] <killaz> when I want to install X-chat Gnome IRC I get this message: xchat-gnome is not available in any channel
[01:20] <Adanadar> erm... ok
[01:20] <killaz> in any software channel
[01:20] <Adanadar> about 3 sets of conflicting instructions there
[01:20] <mada> maddler: so i would say 5gb ubuntu, 5gb winXP, 1gb swap, 9gb fat32 data ... but that is just my suggestiong ... you could make the ubuntu 9gb and just keep the fat32 at 5gb ... your hdd, your choice
[01:21] <drasko> hi all. I have problems with broken pipes when want to install/remove some packages. How to solve this? Here is wha I pasted: http://pastebin.com/716229
[01:21] <killaz> ... the application might not support your system architecture.!
[01:21] <cappiz> is there a new app for apt-setup?
[01:21] <mitjab> i will not
[01:21] <mada> Adanadar ^ ... accidentally wrote "maddler" ... tab completion failed me
[01:21] <killaz> how's that possible?
[01:22] <ompaul> Seveas, that is called a double whammy
[01:22] <Seveas> ompaul, no, it's called a stupid loser, not the first ban on its name
[01:22] <ompaul> ahh
[01:22] <ompaul> noted
[01:22] <mada> Adanadar: so i would say 5gb ubuntu, 5gb winXP, 1gb swap, 9gb fat32 data ... but that is just my suggestiong ... you could make the ubuntu 9gb and just keep the fat32 at 5gb ... your hdd, your choice
[01:22] <Adanadar> mada: I don't want any windows on this thing
[01:22] <mada> Adanadar: huh? i thought you said you were dual booting?
[01:23] <ompaul> !install
[01:23] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[01:23] <Adanadar> I want just ubuntu, but with a 5gig chunk of fat32 for moving files onto another computer that will probably run xp
[01:23] <caHEk> where can i find Russian Unbuntu IRC cannel?
[01:23] <Adanadar> nope
[01:23] <Adanadar> not dual booting
[01:23] <ompaul> !ru
[01:23] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:23] <cappiz> anyone?
[01:23] <mada> Adanadar: your original post said something about XP ....?
[01:23] <caHEk> THX
[01:23] <killaz> ompaul: is that for me? I already added all the repositories!
[01:23] <Adanadar> yes it did
[01:24] <reiki> Adanadar, you going to simply have another computer connect to a network share to move files?
[01:24] <ompaul> killaz, no
[01:24] <Adanadar> but I said for I needed the fat32 for shifting stuff onto XP if needs be
[01:24] <Adanadar> and vice versa
[01:24] <mada> Adanadar: anyways ... if it is going to be a linux only, you don't need to manually edit partitions nor do you need a fat32 partition ... it would just be a waste of hdd space ... ext3, reiserfs, xfs, etc. are all superior to fat32
[01:24] <Adanadar> oh man, that sentence made me seem foreign
[01:24] <ompaul> Adanadar, so you don't have to - you can set up a samba server once installed and allow access to xp to it
[01:24] <mada> Adanadar: ooohhhh ok
[01:25] <killaz> ok... so nobody know what could be causing the problem installing the X-chat Gnome IRC application?
[01:25] <Adanadar> samba you say?
[01:25] <Xorph> killaz, what is the problem?
[01:25] <mada> Adanadar: well, there are clients for XP to access linux partitions ... i would say, keep the better file system, and just download some freeware on the potential XP for access to files
[01:25] <ompaul> Adanadar, I do say samba
[01:26] <Adanadar> hehe
[01:26] <Adanadar> ok
[01:26] <mada> Adanadar: or samba, which ever works better ... if it will be net connected, then yes ... samba ftw
[01:26] <reiki> samba works great here. My machine is Ubuntu only... all others (kids and wife) are still on XP. We can move files around at will over the network
[01:26] <killaz> Xorph: installing the app using the GUI I get this: 'xchat-gnome' is not available in any software channel. The application might not support your system architecture
[01:26] <gyro54> Anyone help on a network printing problem?
[01:26] <mada> gyro54: yo
[01:26] <Adanadar> brilliant, thank you all, saved lots of hassle
[01:26] <Xorph> got x64 system?
[01:26] <mada> gyro54: trying to share with a windows system?
[01:27] <mada> Xorph: i do ... got 2 of em' .... dual opteron server running debian, and a athlon64 desktop running ubtuntu dapper ... whats up?
[01:27] <killaz> Xorph: ?? is that a very strange error?
[01:28] <gyro54> I have 1 computer conected to a router with a printer attached. How do I set up my cupsd.conf file? as a server or a client?
[01:28] <mada> Xorph: nvm, thought that was a general question ....
[01:28] <killaz> Xorph: no a i386 cpu
[01:28] <jme__> q. i have  a friend with window on a 75gbyte partition. he would like to install ubuntu on 10bgyte of this disk and keep 65gbyte for window. so it requires to repartion to disk and likely other stuff. is there a guide step by step for this ?
[01:28] <Xorph> killaz, i'd never get an error like this
[01:29] <mada> ok, way past my bed time ...
[01:29] <Xorph> no problem, mada
[01:29] <killaz> Xorph: oh well it's me again...
[01:29] <gyro54> mada which file?
[01:29] <killaz> Xorph: I have like a special gift for producing the strangest error
[01:29] <Xorph> do you kompile yourself or do you try to get it via apt-get?
[01:29] <killaz> errors*
[01:30] <Xorph> :D
[01:30] <killaz> nope just using the GUI: Applications -> Add/Remove...
[01:30] <Xorph> hmmm
[01:30] <killaz> I can use apt-get but I want to understand the problem..
[01:30] <Xorph> may try to compile it yourself...
[01:31] <mada> gyro54: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html <---good networking howto, if that doesn't help or doesn't cater to your needs, check out ... http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html to see if they have a tutorial to match your needs
[01:31] <Xorph> you can get the sources at gnomefiles.org
[01:31] <Xorph> i think...
[01:31] <mada> it is sleepy time ... night night all
[01:31] <root_> #join ubuntu-cn
[01:31] <gyro54> mada:  thanks
[01:32] <killaz> that's the easy solution... it's not a good thing to neglect this. It's my first installation on my fresh Ubuntu system
[01:32] <root_> #join ubuntu-zh
[01:32] <ompaul> imbrandon, I was going to say that that bug needs info - but given the users "history" I did not bother
[01:32] <killaz> and already such an error....
[01:32] <ompaul> imbrandon, sad but true
[01:32] <imbrandon> he
[01:33] <imbrandon> true
[01:33] <imbrandon> but someone needed to i think
[01:33] <imbrandon> i hate trolls
[01:33] <thingy> hmm...seems that flashplugin-nonfree is borked. Can't run the update-flashplugin postinst script as upstream has changed stuff. bah!
[01:34] <imbrandon> ompaul, and on the -devel list no doubt ;)
[01:34] <imbrandon> err wait that was on sounder , lol
[01:35] <imbrandon> whoops lol
[01:35] <fightingfriends> can Impress open .ppt files?
[01:35] <ompaul> yeap
[01:35] <imbrandon> yup
[01:35] <fightingfriends> does it have good options for printing?
[01:35] <fightingfriends> flexible options?
[01:35] <ompaul> fightingfriends, it can, you need to check them out
[01:35] <fightingfriends> ok, sure, I'll download it now
[01:35] <brozz87> good day !
[01:36] <imbrandon> fightingfriends, should ( depends on the printer alot ) just try it
[01:36] <fightingfriends> ok cool
[01:36] <brozz87> i'm a ubuntu member
[01:36] <ompaul> fightingfriends, you can (A) install ubuntu or (B) install OO for winSomethingGoesHere
[01:36] <imbrandon> hello brozz87
[01:36] <fightingfriends> I got sick of PowerPoint's huge amount of whitespace
[01:36] <brozz87> ^__^
[01:36] <killaz> omg all the applications give me the same error: '########' is not available in any software channel.The application might not support your system architecture.
[01:37] <killaz> this is BAD!
[01:39] <killaz> google search showed me some hits of other ppl with this problem too....
[01:39] <CaptainMorgan> does Matlab run on LInux or is there a similar app?
[01:40] <killaz> CaptainMorgan: there is a linux flavour for matlab..
[01:40] <killaz> CaptainMorgan: go to mathworks.com
[01:41] <pequatre> hi. i have a question regarding bash: if, say, i create a function called test which return 0 if everythong's ok and 1 otherwise, and i'd like to test that in a "while" loop , what would be the correct syntax ? "while (test !=0 ); do : done " doesn't work :(
[01:41] <killaz> bah ..... This is not cool..
[01:41] <Toge> hello
[01:42] <Toge> is it possible to update new kernel with aptitude?
[01:42] <pequatre> i'd like my script to call test repeatedly until test=0
[01:43] <pequatre> ok problem solved.
[01:44] <The3055> Hi
[01:44] <axisme> hm is there a way to have ubuntu auto detect and mount partitions?
[01:44] <drumline_> yep...  I forgot the way though...  it's one of the gnome packages...
[01:44] <drumline_> check the forums..
[01:44] <ompaul> axisme, that is done by having entries in /etc/fstab
[01:45] <drumline_> ompaul: autodetect?   dun think so
[01:45] <smacky_wolf> *kismet
[01:45] <axisme> well i deleted my windows partition and formatted it with ext3 to use as storage
[01:45] <brozz87> i'm italian and i don speak english very well...sorry for my bad english :)
[01:45] <brozz87> i have a question !!!
[01:45] <axisme> but ubuntu seems to think the window one is still there and im not sure how to change it
[01:46] <ompaul> !winfstab
[01:46] <ubotu> an NTFS partition in fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,umask=0222 0 0
[01:46] <drumline_> axisme: change the file system entry in fstab
[01:46] <omz_zepher> Ok. got it to work, i changed the xorg.conf.. changed the vesa driver to NV, now it works
[01:46] <bernd> de
[01:46] <ompaul> axisme,  just dupe one of the other ext3 lines and it will be sorted for you when you next reboot
[01:47] <drumline_> ompaul: umm...  you're sure about that?
[01:47] <dabbler> what is the difference between 'sudo -i' and 'sudo su' ........ thx
[01:47] <drumline_> axisme: change the file system type to ext3
[01:47] <fiveiron> http://reverendted.wordpress.com/2006/06/17/show-me-that-new-gnome-main-menu/
[01:47] <Hal9000> how much space is required for a standard ubuntu installation?
[01:47] <drumline_> 1-2 gigs...  depending on goodies
[01:47] <axisme> ok, and then reboot?
[01:48] <Hal9000> ok
[01:48] <Hal9000> thanks
[01:48] <ompaul> drumline_, pretty sure it should like like axisme : /dev/hdLetterNumber       /YourEntryHere           ext3    defaults        0       2
[01:48] <drumline_> yeah...   you have a mount point for it?
[01:48] <axisme> ah got it
[01:48] <IsDis4Me> greetings Ubuntu using friends
[01:48] <axisme> didn't need to reboot
[01:48] <axisme> thanks
[01:48] <IsDis4Me> I have discovered that Limewire is worthless
[01:48] <IsDis4Me> but otherall I have found my ubuntu experience quite pleasant
[01:48] <ompaul> !frostwire
[01:48] <drumline_> ompaul: oh...  you said "dupe" which I take as "literally duplicate" which would cause the machine to fail on boot.
[01:48] <ubotu> it has been said that frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[01:49] <ompaul> drumline_, actually your right - I need to edit my brain a little
[01:49] <drumline_> P2P is evil
[01:49] <dapperneil> !wine
[01:49] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[01:50] <ompaul> drumline_, no bittorrent is how I share lots of ubuntu and debian - other uses of it are to put it politely dubious
[01:50] <axisme> hmm , /dev/sda2       /media/sda2     ext3    defaults        0       0
[01:50] <axisme> what do i change to have write permission?
[01:50] <xorph> drumline, no, evil things shared via p2p are evil ;)
[01:50] <drumline_> EFF was talking about protecting the rights of people to share files...   problem is that 99.9% of all files shared are copyrighted...   but EFF didn't even want increased abilities to find the people who are sharing...
[01:50] <IsDis4Me> huzzah
[01:51] <IsDis4Me> Damn you guys are good
[01:51] <idoru_> hello, i need unrar, but whenever i do apt-get install unrar it says it can't find it.. al though i have all repositories addedd? wat gives?
[01:51] <ompaul> axisme, the ownershop of the directory "sda2" in media
[01:51] <IsDis4Me> you have all of your answered pre written in a bot :)
[01:51] <ompaul> axisme, the ownership of the directory "sda2" in media that is one way
[01:51] <CaptainMorgan> thanks killaz_ any similar apps available with LInux tho?
[01:51] <drumline_> it's cool to share linux...  but sheesh..  there are too many organizations protecting the rights of people to steal.
[01:51] <jrib> idoru_: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link please?
[01:52] <idoru_> jrib: sure
[01:52] <axisme> thanks, ompaul
[01:52] <drumline_> niter folks
[01:52] <IsDis4Me> HOLY CRAP DUDE, Frostwire is awesome it opens a lot faster than Limewire and is identical in quality functionality
[01:53] <ompaul> IsDis4Me, easy on the caps and language thanks
[01:53] <partsguy> if I have a fat32 and a NTFS partition that I want to have an Icon for in the computer "folder" in gnome do I have to make a link point to the '/mnt/xpdisk'????
[01:53] <Kibou> ompaul: rofl
[01:54] <IsDis4Me> I apologize
[01:54] <idoru_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15900
[01:54] <IsDis4Me> I am exceedingly new to all of this
[01:54] <irvin> !tell idoru_ about rar
[01:54] <IsDis4Me> I was a  windows user up until last week
[01:54] <ompaul> IsDis4Me, you did not know
[01:54] <IsDis4Me> I am stunned that people still use Limewire with all of its constant comercial nagging for upgrades when there is frostwire
[01:54] <The3055> for my fire wall  comment desactiver le fire wall our le port 6881 ?
[01:55] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:55] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:55] <jrib> idoru_: you are actually missing the dapper multiverse repository, are you comfortable editing your sources.list?
[01:55] <idoru_> jrib: i always edit it manually
[01:56] <jrib> idoru_: k, just add " multiverse" to the end of lines 16,17, 31, and 32
[01:56] <idoru_> jrib: why am i missing the dapper multiverse repo, it was there before and i didn't uncomment it or anything
[01:56] <idoru_> jrib: ok thanks
[01:56] <jrib> idoru_: you only have the dapper-backports multiverse not dapper multiverse it seems
[01:57] <sloncho> hi. xubuntu 6.06 + gdm. how to enable automatic login for a user? I tried trough settings, but it does not help
[01:57] <xorph> get a sources.list at www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:57] <xorph> works fine :)
[01:57] <ompaul> sloncho, don't think it is available, have you checked #xubuntu?
[01:58] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any benchmarking tool that tests the kernel? so if i have two kernels, i run this with both, and it spell me what kernel is the best...?!
[01:59] <sloncho> ompaul: there all sleep :). at least no conversation at all
[01:59] <killaz_> CaptainMorgan: uhm I remember that a college of mine was using a linux version of matlab....
[01:59] <killaz_> it was written in python...
[02:00] <ompaul> sloncho, I found last evening that 6.06 would not let it happen for a user
[02:00] <protocol2> is there a reason why I cant record from audio recorder?
[02:00] <ompaul> sloncho, ubuntu 6.06 that is
[02:00] <rixxon> what is "hint" and "saddr" in irlmp discovery log?
[02:00] <sloncho> ompaul, so is this a bug, or a feature :)
[02:00] <protocol2> i can hear myself when I speak into the mic to test it...but I cant record from it
[02:00] <ompaul> protocol2, muted mike in alsamixer or kmix
[02:00] <ompaul> sloncho, both
[02:01] <protocol2> ompaul, thats no the gui interface eh
[02:01] <sloncho> ompaul, is it only for dgm, or kdm as well?
[02:01] <ompaul> protocol2, install kmix it tends to "play" better
[02:01] <protocol2> ok
[02:01] <idoru_> jrib: thanks for your help
[02:01] <sloncho> ompauls - i mean gdm vs. kdm
[02:02] <ompaul> sloncho, I do not see any of my machines with kdm nope they are all ... GDM
[02:02] <killaz_> uhm guys I read the howto install the nvidia drivers on mys system (not a legacy one) but then the X server couldnt restart after a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace .. is the howto on the Wiki ok?
[02:02] <ompaul> killaz_, yes
[02:02] <jrib> idoru_: np
[02:02] <PZico> hi! how to install latest ubuntu without using cd? I have a spare HD where I could set up all the install files
[02:02] <ompaul> killaz_, check message from bot
[02:02] <ompaul> !install
[02:02] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[02:03] <ompaul> PZico, ^^ all methods are there
[02:03] <PZico> thanks, I'll check up
[02:03] <ompaul> morphix, bouncy?
[02:03] <sloncho> ompaul: thanks for the info. i'll try kdm over xubuntu to see what's up
[02:03] <killaz_> ompaul: what message?
[02:03] <killaz_> !nvidia
[02:03] <ubotu> [nvidia]  a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:03] <rixxon> IrDA experiance anyone? please tell me what "hint" and "saddr" is in /proc/net/irda/discovery :)
[02:03] <PZico> !install
[02:03] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[02:03] <morphix> ompaul, no.. just something odd is happening to xhcat
[02:03] <bimberi> sloncho: does 'gksudo gdmsetup' work?  If so, check the Security tab
[02:03] <ompaul> killaz_, check again
[02:03] <morphix> xchat*
[02:04] <ompaul> morphix, no issues with it here - on for a day one bounce per day when my glorious isp changes ip on me
[02:04] <killaz_> ompaul: I did exactly that but then the X server didnt restart anymore..
[02:04] <killaz_> ompaul: I'll try again..
[02:04] <ompaul> killaz_, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:05] <uXp> installing nvidia drivers or xgl?
[02:05] <killaz_> nvidia drivers
[02:05] <uXp> wht card?
[02:05] <uXp> what card you runnin
[02:06] <killaz_> uXp: GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[02:07] <sloncho> bimberi: that's how i tried. hmmm, the strange thing is, that it does not show the user I want to enable login for. the user exists, i'm logged in as him, but it is not shown in the dropdown box. I created this user in terminal
[02:08] <killaz_> uXp: when I ran the command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable I got a MD5Sum check issue
[02:08] <PZico> is there netboot image for 6.06 LTS ?
[02:08] <protocol2> ompaul, in my alsamixer is says my mic is off
[02:08] <PZico> or can I assume that wiki is up to date
[02:08] <killaz_> after resolving that and typing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace the X server didnt restart
[02:08] <protocol2> what key do i use to turn it on?
[02:08] <uXp> killaz_:  the sudo get install?
[02:09] <killaz_> uXp: huh the sudo get install? no I followed the howToInstallNividiaBinary on the Wiki...
[02:09] <ompaul> protocol2, M
[02:09] <bimberi> sloncho: hm, kk.  I'm not sure about that.  Unless it only lists users with Gnome session as default - doubt it though
[02:09] <ompaul> protocol2, m actually
[02:09] <uXp> hmm, half the stuff on there don't even work, i had to reinstall 10 times tried like most of them
[02:10] <bimberi> ubotu tell PZico about netboot
[02:10] <nurdys> #ubuntu-fr
[02:10] <harry> whats the equivalent anti virus of norton antivirus in linux??
[02:10] <bimberi> harry: i hear clamav is quite good
[02:10] <omz_zepher> So what is the power of ubunto over other distro`s, say like debian?
[02:10] <sloncho> bimberi - looks like it shows users with ids >= 1000, and this user was created with uid 114
[02:10] <alexk> harry, I gues one should check clamav
[02:10] <uXp> killaz
[02:10] <harry> bimberi? is it a freeware??
[02:10] <bimberi> sloncho: ah
[02:11] <uXp> killaz_:  go to channle #ubuntu-xgl  ill help you there
[02:11] <killaz_> uXp: maye I've chosen the wrong linux-restricted-modules
[02:11] <killaz_> uXp: ok...
[02:11] <protocol2> ompaul, im trying to record with sound recorder and its not doing it
[02:11] <sloncho> bimberi: so du you know where the dgmsetup stores the user to login auto? I can change in the file, if I knew which one
[02:11] <bimberi> harry: it's free software (as in freedom) and in price too :)
[02:11] <protocol2> I can hear myself over the mic too
[02:11] <ompaul> protocol2, try audicity
[02:12] <protocol2> ok
[02:12] <protocol2> cool
[02:12] <ompaul> it might be
[02:12] <ompaul> protocol2, try audacity
[02:12] <harry> bimberi: how do i download it. is it sudo apt-get install clamav??
[02:12] <bimberi> sloncho: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ?
[02:13] <bimberi> harry: yes, if you have the universe repository enabled ...
[02:13] <bimberi> ubotu tell harry about universe
[02:13] <matthew_w> Hey, I need some help diagnosing a problem with ubuntu, as well as my dual booted windows installation.
[02:13] <matthew_w> Here goes:
[02:13] <harry> bimberi: its already enabled
[02:14] <matthew_w> Occassionally on Ubuntu, and 100% of the time on windows when I try to play a game (any game) the computer completely quits.  100% quits.  Not just crashing, but totally locks without return.
[02:14] <harry> bimberi: what program do you use in ubuntu for CD/DVD burning??
[02:14] <bimberi> harry: kk, go for it then :)
[02:14] <bimberi> harry: nautilus (the file manager)
[02:14] <protocol2> ompaul, ok
[02:15] <matthew_w> Furthermore, 'defragging' as it's called, will yield the same result, and even further, when I use sudo dosfsck -aftv /dev/hda1 when it is unmounted (my windows partition) it also hangs the entire system.
[02:15] <mathieu_> matthew_w: have you checked the cpu temp?
[02:15] <bimberi> harry: it can burn isos and data cd/dvd's (not audio)
[02:15] <skold> Hi I have a problem with gcc when I try to compile something it says gcc: installation problem cannot exec cc1plus` No such file or directory
[02:15] <matthew_w> mathieu no, not really.  What is the setup command to invoke for lmsensors, again?
[02:16] <harry> bimberi: the nautilus??
[02:16] <Guilt> harry, NeroLinux
[02:16] <dapperneil> bimberi, i use gnomebaker
[02:16] <mathieu_> matthew_w: er.. long time since i used it
[02:16] <harry> Guilt: whats NeroLinux???
[02:16] <matthew_w> Either way I don't think it's too high... but.. I don't know.
[02:16] <Guilt> some people might use k3b
[02:16] <bimberi> harry: it's the file manager, what opens when you choose Places -> Home Folder for example
[02:16] <Guilt> nero for linux
[02:16] <matthew_w> mathieu_ I've just recently upgraded
[02:16] <sloncho> bimberi: thanks, that worked
[02:17] <matthew_w> mathieu_ it's now a 2.8 from a 1.4, and 1024 DDR from 512 SD.
[02:17] <matthew_w> New Mobo as well
[02:17] <bimberi> sloncho: yay, np :)
[02:17] <matthew_w> Also, I switched from K7 to 64 bit 686
[02:17] <harry> Guilt: how do i get it
[02:17] <Guilt> google ?
[02:17] <alexk> skold: have you installed build-essential ?
[02:18] <Guilt> http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
[02:18] <mathieu_> matthew_w: well, if it is since then, it will be probably a temperature issue. you might also check the gpu temp
[02:18] <bimberi> dapperneil: yep, there's a few around :) does gnomebaker work well for you?
[02:18] <dapperneil> bimberi, yes all the time
[02:19] <skold> alexk: no i`m so stupid thx
[02:19] <alexk> skold: not at all :)
[02:20] <bimberi> dapperneil: good to hear :) i haven't used it
[02:20] <void^> matthew_w: did you upgrade your power supply, is it decent?
[02:21] <artfors> why doesn't beagle index my documents folder
[02:22] <harry> how do i get adobe PDF reader
[02:24] <harry> how do i get adobe PDF reader
[02:24] <senare> i need a lill expertise help ... how do i do to rerunn the dhcp /network auto detect from cmdpromt after install ?
[02:24] <matthew_w> void; the power supply is fine
[02:25] <matthew_w> I'll be right back.
[02:25] <void^> i had more trouble with power supplies than with any other piece of hardware, ibm deathstars included :] 
[02:26] <tsarkon> hello. one thing I can't understand is why XGL with all the plugins don't include the "sorter" plugin (the one that resembles expos in MacOSX with sorting windows)
[02:26] <bimberi> harry: enable multiverse and then install acroread
[02:26] <tsarkon> is it too experimental, so it's not enabled by default? is it possible to enable it without a recompile?
[02:26] <senare> anybody know how to rerunn the installer ?
[02:26] <idoru_> bimberi: i would rather use kpdf or the gnome embedded one...
[02:27] <tsarkon> evince is GNOME's
[02:27] <bimberi> idoru_: yep, i'm happy with evince
[02:27] <senare> no one ??
[02:27] <bimberi> idoru_: just answering the question :)
[02:27] <harry> bimberi: how about nero linux??
[02:28] <idoru_> bimberi: :)
[02:28] <bimberi> harry: it seem you're missing windows. :)
[02:28] <tsarkon> senare, the GUI installer? load the Live-CD then, and click the installer icon?
[02:28] <harry> bimberi: nope i'm trying my best to use linux now
[02:29] <bimberi> harry: it's not in the repositories.  I think that's a download/install from the nero website
[02:29] <harry> bimberi: whats the equivalent of download accelerator for linux??
[02:29] <senare> @tsarkon i got no cd and so but i got ubuntu up and running i just whant the installer to try and configure my network again ?
[02:29] <snoops> tsarkon expose is the one which takes all windows, then resizes them and shows them on the current desktop right?
[02:29] <snoops> so you can choose which one to view?
[02:29] <tsarkon> snoops, yes
[02:29] <snoops> f12 tsarkon
[02:29] <tsarkon> snoops, it doesn't work
[02:29] <snoops> it works fine for me
[02:30] <snoops> are you using the latest builds?
[02:30] <bimberi> harry: sorry, i don't know that one
[02:30] <snoops> I'm not sure which plugin enables it..
[02:30] <tsarkon> snoops, well, I am using the cvs builds from 2006-06-17
[02:30] <harry> who knows an application that works like download accelerator for linux??
[02:30] <matthew_w> Well I'm back
[02:30] <Bassetts> does anone know why, when using thunderbird it uses the pc speaker instead of my actual speakers?
[02:31] <snoops> well yeah, works absolutely fine and dandy here tsarkon..
[02:31] <matthew_w> and both the GPU Core and the CPU Core are in the 30's in celsius
[02:31] <matthew_w> Which is fine.
[02:32] <matthew_w> So now I don't even know what to do, I just have a computer that mysteriously locks whenever the windows partition is accessed.
[02:32] <codecaine> anybody know how to suppress an mouse touch pad on an laptop?
[02:32] <dapperneil> harry, i use fasterfox and down them all add-ons for firefox
[02:32] <tsarkon> snoops,     Version: 0.0.13+cvs20060617
[02:32] <tsarkon> snoops, is that the one you are using?
[02:32] <protocol2> matthew,   whats your issue
[02:32] <snoops> I'm just using the latest from beerorkid
[02:33] <matthew_w> protocol2; well... I restarted since I last said it but its above; anyway, it's that the computer just randomly completely locks, not just a crash, but a total and complete lock.
[02:33] <matthew_w> Happens more on my windows partition, and when it's accessed.
[02:33] <matthew_w> Defragging yields the same result
[02:33] <tsarkon> snoops, %Bsudo aptitude show compiz-vanilla
[02:33] <tsarkon> err
[02:33] <tsarkon> snoops, sudo aptitude show compiz-vanilla
[02:33] <matthew_w> sudo dosfsck -aftv /dev/hda1 when it's unmounted yields the same result.
[02:34] <bimberi> harry: a search for 'download accelerator' in synaptic comes back with "aget" and "axel"
[02:34] <snoops> oh I'm not using vanilla
[02:34] <Bassetts> does anone know why, when using thunderbird it uses the pc speaker instead of my actual speakers?
[02:34] <protocol2> matthew, are you on windows now or ubuntu?
[02:34] <matthew_w> Ubuntu
[02:34] <matthew_w> atm
[02:34] <protocol2> and it never has lockup issues?
[02:34] <matthew_w> Only when I access the windows partition
[02:35] <snoops> and not using kubuntu either..
[02:35] <protocol2> ahh
[02:35] <matthew_w> And even then, much less often
[02:35] <protocol2> what do you see when you try to boot from the windows partitition?
[02:35] <matthew_w> furthermore, there's what is called a super-auditory noise coming from my computer
[02:35] <matthew_w> That wasn't there before
[02:35] <matthew_w> One of those really really really high pitched noises that most people don't even hear
[02:35] <matthew_w> But that drives me mad.  lol.
[02:36] <matthew_w> It boots, it's just when I'm in windows, it will completely lock, seemingly at random
[02:36] <snoops> I'll boot into ubuntu and check the versions for ya tsarkon
[02:36] <tsarkon> snoops, oh.. thanks
[02:36] <matthew_w> or 100% of the time when I try to access certain things, like games, or the defragger
[02:36] <protocol2> matthew_w, and the lock never happens at all in ubuntu correct?
[02:37] <matthew_w> protocol2; again, only if I try to access or alter the windows partition
[02:37] <protocol2> i would reload a clean install of windows
[02:37] <protocol2> backup
[02:37] <matthew_w> '/' is on /dev/hda2, swap is on /dev/hda3, and windows is on /dev/hda1
[02:38] <protocol2> then overwrite that install of windows
[02:38] <protocol2> with a new clean install
[02:38] <matthew_w> hrm, but I'm led to believe that it's not the actual windows installation, because like I said, if I try to access the same files on that parititon using Ubuntu, the lock still occurs.
[02:38] <protocol2> over /dev/hda1 that is
[02:39] <protocol2> ahh...get a new hard drive maybe
[02:39] <matthew_w> Does that sound like what it is?
[02:39] <protocol2> if your hearing a noise like that its possible that it can be damage
[02:39] <matthew_w> Yeah and uh..
[02:39] <matthew_w> Come to think of it
[02:40] <matthew_w> When I do either a defrag in windows, or a dosfsck in linux, I hear a slight, tiny clicking noise, like a laptop hard drive makes, only I'm on a desktop... only when I access that part of the drive, though
[02:40] <tsarkon> snoops, I am using compiz-vanilla, compiz-vanilla-gnome .. I think that's why
[02:40] <codecaine> anybody else has problems suprresing a laptop touch pad?
[02:41] <codecaine> I install tpconfig --tapmode=0
[02:41] <snoops> yeah I think that's why too tsarkon.. okay let me get the version
[02:41] <codecaine> and get a error
[02:41] <matthew_w> codecaine; I forget how to do that X_X, but someone in here was asking before.
[02:41] <matthew_w> protocol2; any thoughts?
[02:41] <tsarkon> snoops, alright
[02:41] <snoops> sorry I took so long (last update I did, was a kernel update and that screwed my menu.lst in my grub boot config..) so I had to boot manually
[02:41] <protocol2> i would buy me a new hd....but thats just me....in your case you can troubleshoot a bit more
[02:42] <matthew_w> protocol2; what else is there to do?  badblocks reveals nothing, and dosfsck locks the machine
[02:42] <Seveas> !sdfasga
[02:42] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:42] <Seveas> Hobbsee, works fine...
[02:42] <PZico> floppy-based bootable linux disribution TomsRtBt windows version doesn't seem to create diskette on windows xp :(
[02:42] <Seveas> !edfsfmk
[02:42] <ubotu> Seveas: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:42] <Seveas> !pdsfpsodf
[02:42] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[02:42] <PZico> do you know any other equivalent floppies?
[02:42] <Seveas> ahm that one
[02:42] <protocol2> those are core system tools
[02:42] <tsarkon> snoops, ah
[02:43] <protocol2> and my best guess is if you cant prefom tests with those then might want to buy a new hd
[02:43] <harry> how do you install nerolinux???
[02:43] <killaz> how can I turn off teh X server and then come back when I finished installing the NVDIA drivers... because the HowTo on the Wiki is messing up my system
[02:43] <snoops> I'm using quinns releases
[02:43] <matthew_w> Well I mean, badblocks shows that there are "no bad sectors" but like I said it's the fsck that locks it.
[02:43] <tsarkon> snoops, alright.. so am I in a moment
[02:43] <tsarkon> killefiz, recovery mode kernel, from the boot menu perhaps?
[02:44] <tsarkon> brb
[02:44] <harry> how do you install  .rpm packages???
[02:44] <protocol2> matthew_w, how long have you had this system?
[02:44] <snoops> compiz 0.0.13-0quinn3, compiz-gnome 0.0.13-0quinn3
[02:44] <matthew_w> Uh, the hard drive is about 6 months
[02:45] <Hobbsee> stefg: no, just testing
[02:45] <Dreams> hey?
[02:45] <protocol2> you installed the hd yourself?
[02:45] <raiffhigor> Good morning to all...
[02:45] <Dreams> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) doe this only ship with gnome desktop? or can it be-installed with kde ?
[02:46] <snoops> Kubuntu 6.06 lts for kde Dreams
[02:46] <raiffhigor> who knows how can i do to install libx11-dev
[02:46] <Dreams> ok
[02:46] <ompaul> Dreams, you can install kubuntu or  - kubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <Dreams> but my problem is
[02:46] <raiffhigor> ...?!?
[02:46] <ompaul> the latter gives you all the fun of the fair
[02:46] <Dreams> gnome software causes problems for my pc
[02:46] <ompaul> gnome and kde items
[02:47] <Dreams> so i have to download kubuntu ?
[02:47] <protocol2> i like gnome
[02:47] <ompaul> Dreams, if ubuntu is installed you can then just install kubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <taf> i have a bit of a problem =(
[02:47] <Dreams> well i installed that cd
[02:47] <Dreams> but it installed gnome
[02:47] <snoops> why would gnome software in particular cause problems? If software at that level is having issues, then there's some bigger problem at large
[02:47] <taf> anyone a pro here in ubuntu dapper drake?
[02:47] <Dreams> snoops:
[02:47] <protocol2> matthew_w, that sound is not normal for any system
[02:48] <Dreams> the problem is i cant connect to repositories
[02:48] <stefg> Has anyone a halfway sensible explanation for dappper being such a problemchild for many people after breezy was working fine?
[02:48] <Dreams> and updates
[02:48] <protocol2> so get it checked out
[02:48] <snoops> right, well wouldn't that be a network or firewall problem Dreams?
[02:48] <taf> i got the smae oproblem
[02:48] <Dreams> yes
[02:48] <ompaul> Dreams, please read this, you can have one gnome (ubuntu) or kde (kubuntu), or if you have ubuntu installed you can also install kubuntu-desktop and it will install kubuntu for you and leave you with the gnome programs also
[02:48] <Dreams> but kde never has the problems
[02:48] <Dreams> i know ompaul
[02:48] <raiffhigor> i want to install apollon but when install occurs...
[02:48] <planetcall> goodevening all
[02:49] <Dreams> i just wondered if it was on the cd
[02:49] <Dreams> to choose kde during install
[02:49] <codecaine> exit
[02:49] <ompaul> Dreams, that is a different cd
[02:49] <codecaine> sorry
[02:49] <raiffhigor> an error like checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:49] <Dreams> ok
[02:49] <Dreams> tis all i wondered
[02:49] <taf> my network cards (nvidia and realtek) are detected but i never seem to obtain my dhcp lease
[02:49] <Dreams> ty
[02:49] <raiffhigor> anybody can help me...
[02:49] <raiffhigor> i'm new in linux..
[02:50] <matthew_w> protocol2; yeah I put the HDD in
[02:50] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I've just inserted 'noapic' and 'nolapic' at the end of my linuk kernal boot loader entry to prevent some weird freezing. Its booted OK, which is good. But can anyone explain to me what I've done by tunring off these values?
[02:50] <ompaul> raiffhigor, what did you try to install
[02:50] <matthew_w> But I've put all of my HDD's in, I don't think I'm incompetent, although I may be.  haha.
[02:50] <raiffhigor> apollon...
[02:50] <Hobbsee> !tell raiffhigor about xincludes
[02:50] <matthew_w> Although, it looks like I did put my floppy cable in backwards.
[02:50] <matthew_w> hehe
[02:50] <stefg> Could anyone shed some light on the fact that all kernels after 2.6.15-20-k7 give me a 20 sec. hang at boottime ('mounting root fs'......) ?
[02:50] <ompaul> raiffhigor,  ahh see the message from ubotu that Hobbsee has had the bot give you
[02:51] <raiffhigor> i got so....
[02:51] <taf> Can anyone help for my network card problem please on Dapper Drake
[02:51] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: what problems are you having with HDD's? Only just joined the channel
[02:51] <raiffhigor> how can i install ... the packages...
[02:51] <matthew_w> One sec gizmo_the_great1
[02:51] <raiffhigor> i'm searching about this since 6:00 am...
[02:51] <taf> raif can u access the internet?
[02:51] <raiffhigor> yes...
[02:52] <ompaul> !install
[02:52] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[02:52] <rraajj> The shutdown and reboot options are missing. :(
[02:52] <taf> have u launched synaptics manager?
[02:52] <DBO> taf, what problem are oyu having?
[02:53] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1, we think it's hardware
[02:53] <taf> well my network cards are detected but i dont get any dhcp lease
[02:53] <virus> coul somebody help me with mounting windows partitions?
[02:53] <raiffhigor> i downloaded this file a few min ago...
[02:53] <raiffhigor> libx11-dev_6.2.1+cvs.20050722-8_i386.deb
[02:53] <ompaul> !winfstab
[02:53] <ubotu> an NTFS partition in fstab should look like this: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs user,umask=0222 0 0
[02:53] <ompaul> virus, ^^
[02:53] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I've just inserted 'noapic' and 'nolapic' at the end of my linuk kernal boot loader entry to prevent some weird freezing. Its booted OK, which is good. But can anyone explain to me what I've done by turning off these values? Is it good to do so or will I be effecting my system in other ways?
[02:53] <raiffhigor> so i can do something with this to solve mt problem...
[02:53] <DBO> taf, does sudo dhclient eth0 work for you
[02:53] <raiffhigor> *my problem
[02:53] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1, my windows system frequently locks altogether, not just a crash but complete system death, furthermore, when defragging, or dosfscking, the computer also locks.
[02:53] <taf> dont know im going to have to try
[02:53] <matthew_w> Ubuntu will not lock up until it accesses the windows partition extensively
[02:54] <matthew_w> ie: for a sudo dosfsck -aftv /dev/hda1
[02:54] <ompaul> gizmo_the_great1, you have turned off buggy hardware - read wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[02:54] <taf> raiff get ur package thru application ---administartion--- synaptics manager
[02:54] <gizmo_the_great1> ompaul: thanks - i will read that now
[02:54] <ompaul> gizmo_the_great1, it explains what they do at some level
[02:54] <virus> I`ve done everithing from documenatation and i thing i`ve ruined something
[02:55] <matthew_w> Furthermore, gizmo_the_great1 I'm getting a high pitched (very high pitched and quiet) noise from my comp that I didn't previously get
[02:55] <virus> could you please help me to fix it and mount windows partition?
[02:55] <ompaul> virus, put the contents of the file /etc/fstab in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the URL thank you
[02:55] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: at boot-up?
[02:55] <matthew_w> and when there is extensive access to /dev/hda1, there's a slight clicking
[02:55] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1, at any time
[02:55] <raiffhigor> taf how can i do this..?!?!
[02:55] <taf> are u in linux now?
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> is there a linux alternative to netlimiter
[02:55] <yabba> hello, can anyone recommend ma a nice programme to see how much internet traffic is going on on my system and how to reduce it?= i have a bandwith limit of 1,5gb its so little..
[02:55] <raiffhigor> yes...
[02:55] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: sounds nasty. Look up audio BIOS beeps - may help you
[02:55] <raiffhigor> ubuntu...
[02:55] <ompaul> Tommy2k4, what does netlimiter do?
[02:55] <taf> ok in the uper menus
[02:56] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1, nah, it just posts once
[02:56] <taf> u see applications?
[02:56] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1,  the bios isn't detecting any damage
[02:56] <virus> ompaul how do i do that?
[02:56] <yabba> ah, netlimiter
[02:56] <raiffhigor> ok
[02:56] <yabba> :
[02:56] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1,  I tend to think it's just a failing hdd
[02:56] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: ok
[02:56] <raiffhigor> ...
[02:56] <taf> once u click on it
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> you can set it limit connections from certain apps or as a whole, set the max ul/dl speeds
[02:56] <raiffhigor> ...
[02:56] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: sounds like it. you have any valuable data on it?
[02:56] <taf> click on administartion
[02:56] <yabba> great Tommy2k4 !
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> yes i think this is what you need aswell
[02:56] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1, which is ironic, because this will be the second lemon that the same guy sold me, and he's going to be eating this one.
[02:56] <DBO> matthew_w, clicking hard drives tend to mean its going west, backup and replace that sucker
[02:56] <snoops> man the amount of updates for ubuntu is crazy.. don't use it for two days and 60meg of updates
[02:56] <killaz> I need someone to help me with the installation of NVIDIA drivers, which module for my kernel should I install?
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> i use netlimiter on windows but dunno a linux alternative
[02:56] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1,  actually, I'm in it right now, and it works fine, it's only a bad spot right smack dab in the middle of where windows is installed
[02:57] <killaz> how would I know that?
[02:57] <matthew_w> DBO, yeah, I think there's only a screw up in a small part so I am able to get 100% data backup.
[02:57] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: i second DBO. I work in field of data recovery (forensic computing) and clicking hard drives are always a worry
[02:57] <gizmo_the_great1> matthew_w: scrap it
[02:57] <killaz> I have two linux-restricted-modules installed
[02:57] <taf> i like ur title gizmo !
[02:57] <taf> forensic computing heh
[02:57] <DBO> matthew_w, partial failures tend to turn into full failures quick enough
[02:57] <gizmo_the_great1> taf: thanks, but it is real!
[02:58] <matthew_w> gizmo_the_great1,  yeah, here's the thing, I got it from the computer fella down the road about 4 months ago, and it's already fragged, so I'm going to bring it back to him, and he's going to ingest it.
[02:58] <taf> raiff u stil therE?
[02:58] <taf> i dont doubit
[02:58] <taf> :)
[02:58] <virus> now i have on my desktop mounted /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[02:58] <killaz> can you help me choosing the correct linux-restricted-modules?
[02:58] <DBO> taf, dhclient work for you?
[02:58] <codecaine> its not good to have two lnux-restricted-modules installed?
[02:58] <taf> well just wondering
[02:58] <idoru_> killaz: uname -a
[02:58] <raiffhigor> yeah
[02:58] <yanis> apt-get give me this output:E: The package libgnome2-vfs-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! . how can I fix it?
[02:58] <taf> what will doing dhclient do?
[02:58] <ompaul> virus, 1) open a terminal  from the menu - Applicaitons Accessories Terminal 2) in that terminal type the piece between the  <> | >>cat /etc/fstab <<  3) highlight with a mouse (left click) 4) right click and copy and 5) paste it into the window on the page paste.ubuntu-nl.org (hint open the web page first)
[02:58] <taf> raid can u accept the chat please
[02:58] <DBO> taf, acquire a DHCP address
[02:59] <taf> ok cool
[02:59] <killaz> idoru_: thnx
[02:59] <taf> ill try in a sec once i reboot
[02:59] <gizmo_the_great1> ompaul: I have read the Wiki as you suggested. "Does not start the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI). Can prevent the impact of bad ACPI implementations, which in turn cause random reboots or system lockups." All becomes clear now, thanks
[02:59] <idoru_> killaz: based on that output you can find the correct restriced-modules package
[02:59] <gizmo_the_great1> ompaul: additionally, I no longer have ACPI errors at the end of my dmesg
[02:59] <ompaul> gizmo_the_great1, well it got written for just that reason ;-)
[03:00] <ompaul> gizmo_the_great1, give out to the manafacturer they may have a new bios for that box
[03:00] <matthew_w> lol
[03:00] <Tommy2k4> yabba you use kde?
[03:00] <matthew_w> I forgot to plug in my power cable to my floppy
[03:00] <yabba> Tommy2k4,  yes i do
[03:00] <matthew_w> and my dmesg is "BUFFER IO ERROR TO DEV FD0" about 20000 times.
[03:00] <DBO> matthew_w, niiiice
[03:00] <bullrage> What application should I use to burn a Video_TS folder for a DVD? Gnomebaker looks useless in this case
[03:00] <yabba> Tommy2k4, i just found something: http://lartc.org/
[03:00] <Tommy2k4> im about to try something called kdevmon ill tlel you how it goes
[03:00] <yabba> maybe its good
[03:00] <yabba> Tommy2k4, that would be nice
[03:01] <dragoon> bullrage: nero linux
[03:01] <matthew_w> Also, on a sidenote
[03:01] <virus> I`ve done it ompaul
[03:01] <dragoon> k3b
[03:01] <dragoon> take your pick
[03:01] <matthew_w> has anyone noticed that you basically need a NASA shuttle guidance system for a computer in order to run oblivion
[03:01] <DBO> k3b is free, nero linux is not
[03:01] <matthew_w> (elder scrolls IV oblivion)
[03:01] <harry> where do we get neroLinux..
[03:01] <gizmo_the_great1> ompaul: how did you find that particular page? If I click on the home of the Ubuntu Wiki it's not an abvious link. Is it deep rooted within nests?
[03:01] <DBO> matthew_w, I can run it fine...  of course I stole my computer from nasa
[03:02] <ompaul> gizmo_the_great1, I wrote it
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> damnit it has dependancies that i dont know
[03:02] <gizmo_the_great1> ompaul: aaaah - :-) good man
[03:02] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> have*
[03:02] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions not the full complement of boot options but it is some of them
[03:02] <matthew_w> I've got a 2.8 ghz P4 64 bit with 1024 megs of DDRII ram, 256 meg DDRII 433mhz Nvidia GeForce 5000 series, etc. etc... and it's STILL laggy.
[03:02] <yabba> urgs
[03:02] <ompaul> gizmo_the_great1, more correctly I started it
[03:02] <DBO> matthew_w, yeah that would be
[03:02] <matthew_w> DBO; well then my lord, what are YOU running?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> matthew_w, i got half ya spec + java app running .. stil snappy here
[03:03] <DBO> matthew_w, AMD FX-53, 2GB of RAM, and a GeForce 7800 GTX....
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> you got nvidia driver installed ?
[03:03] <killaz> idoru_: should I do something else then install nvidia and the restriced-modules for NVIDIA drivers?
[03:03] <matthew_w> DBO; ah.
[03:03] <matthew_w> DBO; I think probably the biggest thing is having 2x my ram.
[03:03] <gizmo_the_great1> thanks for everyones help guys - i'm off...signing out
[03:03] <DBO> matthew_w, nope, its your video card
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> matthew_w, i got 512 mb ddr ram ...
[03:03] <matthew_w> see ya gizmo_the_great1
[03:03] <harry> where do we get neroLinux..
[03:03] <jooozek> hi
[03:04] <DBO> matthew_w, you need a much faster card for oblivion
[03:04] <matthew_w> DBO; ah
[03:04] <bethanyandrob> Hello all
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> oh obvilion .. i thought what
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:04] <matthew_w> DBO; odd, I've never run into that with ANY other game except for oblivion
[03:04] <bethanyandrob> I am confused...help me out....What is Ubuntu?
[03:04] <virus> ompaul what should i do now?
[03:04] <kmilo> Hi
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> bethanyandrob, what is linux ?
[03:04] <kokoko1> hi
[03:04] <jooozek> somebody knows where can i get a deb with an svn version of gmpc, libmpd and mpd ?
[03:04] <bethanyandrob> I am running Mandriva
[03:04] <DBO> matthew_w, oblivion is one of the most graphically intensive games since FEAR
[03:04] <ompaul> virus, I am looking now
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> eh if you running mandriva then why is ubuntu so confusing to you ?
[03:04] <matthew_w> DBO; although, it is a good game for letting you turn down the gfx
[03:04] <idoru_> killaz: that depends on what kind of nvidia card you are having, besides installing the correct packages, you also should edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace nv with nvidia, check http://wiki.ubuntu.com for more information about setting up nvidia
[03:05] <bethanyandrob> But Linux is an open source freely distributed OS that rocks windows
[03:05] <kokoko1> how to check the location of files of a given package?
[03:05] <matthew_w> DBO; I can run it pretty seamlessly if I turn some stuff down.
[03:05] <bethanyandrob> I have no idea what ubuntu is
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> bethanyandrob, ubuntu is opensource ... you can download the source code to the whole damn distro :P
[03:05] <bethanyandrob> I have heard it SEVERAL times in other channels
[03:05] <DBO> matthew_w, they just introduced an ultra low-quality mode for your series of graphics cards to help the frame rate
[03:05] <bethanyandrob> I can download even Mandriva Code?
[03:05] <matthew_w> DBO; that's a bit harsh
[03:05] <freezombie> hi! does ubuntu have an equivalent to packages.debian.org ?
[03:05] <DBO> its in the latest patch matthew_w
[03:06] <matthew_w> DBO; ow :(
[03:06] <jooozek> guys
[03:06] <bethanyandrob> Cause isn't mandriva itself also open source?
[03:06] <matthew_w> DBO; I dunno about you, I thought my machine was pretty hardcore.
[03:06] <matthew_w> freezombie, yeah, give me one sec..
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> i need to install an app but it says i  need kdelibs4
[03:06] <jooozek> who is using mpd+gmpc ?
[03:06] <DBO> matthew_w, heh, yeah its actually not bad, but your video card is already two generations old... kinda hurts inside dont it?
[03:06] <bethanyandrob> I see this channel stays busy
[03:06] <xenex> video[nVidia Corporation NV11GL [Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go]  @ Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub] 
[03:06] <xenex> :o
[03:07] <matthew_w> freezombie, archive.ubuntu.com I believe
[03:07] <matthew_w> in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:07] <MistaED> freezombie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ as well
[03:07] <matthew_w> DBO; I know, and I got it less than a year ago.
[03:07] <matthew_w> DBO; and it was like 200 dollars X_X!!
[03:07] <freezombie> thanks. packages.ubuntu.com looks right.
[03:07] <matthew_w> I tried. lol
[03:08] <DBO> matthew_w, shazam!  unfortunately we are off topic so we have to stop this sillyness.  plus Im gonna go grab some foodage
[03:08] <matthew_w> lol you're right.
[03:08] <matthew_w> It hurts, though.
[03:08] <matthew_w> cheers.  I'll get a new HDD asap.  And that fool will rue the day he sold me a lemon.
[03:08] <ompaul> virus just for you ;-)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15903
[03:09] <virus> ok I will look now ompaul
[03:09] <matthew_w> Another quick question
[03:09] <matthew_w> I have a 64 bit pentium 4 now... should I go to the 64 bit ubuntu ?
[03:09] <ompaul> matthew_w, please put your comments on one line and do not use enter as punctuation, it spams the channel and is annoying ;-) thanks #
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> bethanyandrob, may i suggest you get a book on linux ?
[03:09] <ompaul> matthew_w, only if your not using multimedia
[03:10] <matthew_w> ompaul; explain a bit more
[03:10] <ompaul> matthew_w, too much pain for a new user
[03:10] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone here help me with partitioning and such? I want to shrink my windows partition, and add that to my ubuntu partition, the ubuntu parition got erased, so there's nothing on it.
[03:10] <matthew_w> ompaul; you assume I'm a new user ;) (which I am)  hehe.
[03:10] <matthew_w> ompaul; what is broken, or buggy, that would not be in the 32 bit distribution?
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> pianoboy3333, did you already deleted that windows partition ?
[03:10] <planetcall> pianoboy3333, asking same question in various ubuntu forums might not be very helpful
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: yea, I got bored in offtopic, it's not the best place to ask questions here in the morning
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> wickedpuppy: no, the windows partition is still there
[03:11] <ompaul> matthew_w, so take my years of distilled madness and accept it you will see as time goes by, codecs and the like are all 32bit and you can't just drop 32bit materials into a 64 bit arena - this is not some patched 4bit o/s
[03:11] <planetcall> pianoboy3333, try gparted
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: right... but don't I have to defrag the windows drive first?
[03:11] <matthew_w> ompaul; so probably using 64 bit right now is kind of like using a cell phone in 1970?
[03:11] <planetcall> or boot from your ubuntu CD and then use Gnome Partition Editor (gparted)
[03:11] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: I don't think gparted can do that
[03:12] <planetcall> what FileSystem your window has ?
[03:12] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: ntfs
[03:12] <ompaul> matthew_w, at a real push yes I will get the bot to send you a page to read
[03:13] <matthew_w> ompaul; excellent, I'm just thinking that it may end up being only a marginal gain for extreme labor.  Thanks.
[03:13] <planetcall> pianoboy3333, gparted handles ntfs
[03:13] <ytripppy> anyone got a xbox?
[03:13] <raiffhigor> anyone can help me...
[03:14] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: I don't think gparted can defrag though
[03:14] <matthew_w> ompaul; yeah, this is definitely beyond me.
[03:14] <raiffhigor> how can i install libx11-dev?!!?!?
[03:14] <planetcall> why would you like to do defrag ? pianoboy3333
[03:14] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: cause, if I shrink it without defraging, it may erase parts of the hard drive with info
[03:15] <raiffhigor> through synaptic...
[03:15] <pianoboy3333> planetcall: it happened to my friend
[03:15] <pianoboy3333> ok, I found the tool, g2g
[03:15] <raiffhigor> i have to install the package libx11-dev
[03:15] <matthew_w> raiffhigor; press search, type "libx11", click it, and hit install?
[03:15] <raiffhigor> i'll try...
[03:15] <raiffhigor> thanks
[03:15] <matthew_w> or, in a terminal, sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[03:15] <raiffhigor> i'll return to say the result...
[03:17] <virus> ompaul i`ve done that..and is still not working...
[03:18] <virus> I told you ompaul that i`ve tried few times ...and i think i`ve done some mistakes...
[03:18] <czr> how do I use root=LABEL=foo with LTS-server initrd?
[03:18] <czr> it doesn't seem to work (for me at least)
[03:18] <ompaul> virus, if you have doen what I have said then reboot and see what the situation is
[03:18] <perris> scusate come si carica la roms per kxmame?
[03:18] <virus> ok
[03:19] <harry> is there a free version of a CD/DVD burner that burns ISO, MUSIC, VIDEO???
[03:19] <matthew_w> harry; k3b, possibly.
[03:19] <xenex> gnomebaker
[03:19] <AndreasB> Hi there. i have a problem with the ubuntu installer. it sits at "installing the base system" and then quits. Can anyone help?
[03:19] <ompaul> harry, k3b is useful gnomebaker also
[03:19] <harry> matthew_w : how do you get it
[03:20] <matthew_w> AndreasB; did you check to make sure the checksum on the CD matched up?  Is your CDROM drive ok?
[03:20] <ompaul> AndreasB, which version of ubuntu?
[03:20] <matthew_w> harry; you can run synaptic package manager from system-administration-synaptic in your menus
[03:20] <AndreasB> ompaul: 6.06 i386
[03:20] <matthew_w> harry; it's a useful program
[03:20] <ompaul> AndreasB, which disk?
[03:20] <AndreasB> ompaul: but i'm installing on a amd64. i've read and followed the howto for this.
[03:21] <AndreasB> ompaul: /dev/sda. configuration by hand. its a 160GB SATA
[03:22] <ompaul> AndreasB, I don't have a 64bit system to play with or sata scsi or ide thats me
[03:22] <pancho> Hi,
[03:22] <pancho> I need help
[03:22] <ompaul> !enter
[03:22] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:22] <ompaul> !anyone
[03:22] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[03:22] <harry> is there an anti virus program thats equivalent to NORTON ANTIVIRUS
[03:22] <czr> ompaul, why doesn't LABEL work in ubuntu LTS initrd?
[03:22] <czr> ;-)
[03:23] <czr> though I don't really care why not. I just want it working
[03:23] <ompaul> AndreasB, have you checked the checksum for that disk before you burnt?
[03:23] <AndreasB> ompaul: yes.
[03:23] <pancho> I have the Ubuntu cd ... when I boot, it loads UBUNTU from the CD.. and there is an icon in the workspace that allows me to install. The thing is that this process is waaay to slow and the computer freezes.. Is there a way to intall ubuntu before loading it from the cd?
[03:23] <harry> is there an anti virus program thats equivalent to NORTON ANTIVIRUS
[03:23] <pcfan> How can I lunch an kde applet from command line?
[03:24] <xenex> AndreasB: i had the same problem. went through 10 of my cd-rs, then i switched to a different brand and cd-rw and it worked. so try burning on another cd
[03:24] <pcfan> How can I lunch a kde applet from command line, or lunch a program before kicker ?
[03:24] <ompaul> AndreasB, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions it may help
[03:24] <pcfan> +* at kde boot
[03:24] <virus> ompaul now is working thank you...but now i want to set up my wireless...that`s why I mounted Windows
[03:24] <raiffhigor> i did the installation of the packages... but still occurs erros during the installation tha i with to do...
[03:24] <ompaul> harry, why would you need antiviruse
[03:24] <yabba> hey guys, i suspect someone to try to DoS me with ping requests, how can i block a certain host/ip from doing ping requests or the like? i edited my /etc/hosts.deny but it doesnt seem to work.. is it the wrong place?
[03:24] <ompaul> !wireless
[03:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[03:24] <AndreasB> xenex: mh. i do not think that the cd is the problem. i have also tried different cd-rs.
[03:25] <harry> ompaul: is there nothing should i worry about..???
[03:25] <AndreasB> ompaul: i have already had a look at that and i think i found the best boot options.
[03:25] <ompaul> virus, read that thing there from ubotu and check out the desktop guide at help.ubuntu.com it is rather good
[03:25] <virus> ompaul i`ve tried from there to install my drivers but is not working ...and I have a Dell Card 1370
[03:25] <pcfan> yabba: use firestarter to disable pings
[03:25] <yabba> pcfan, that's a programme?
[03:25] <ompaul> virus, I don't do wireless I can only suggest what others have written
[03:25] <pcfan> Yes yabba, this is a firewall
[03:26] <yabba> thank you, pcfan :)
[03:26] <ompaul> AndreasB, well then your way ahead of where I can help
[03:26] <tsarkon> snoops, hello again
[03:26] <ompaul> AndreasB, suggest the mailing list I'll grab the url
[03:26] <pcfan> yabba: you disable pings in the firestarter gui settings
[03:26] <AndreasB> ompaul: mh. ok. Thanks anyway. I have the mailing list set up ;)
[03:26] <virus> ok ompaul...but webcams do you???:)...or if a web cam is not listed there then that means it will not working?
[03:26] <yabba> pcfan, any idea on what would happen if I'd edit my /etc/host.access ? couldnt i block hosts there?
[03:26] <yabba> thanks
[03:26] <ompaul> virus, no it does not you can try anything
[03:27] <pancho>  I have the Ubuntu cd ... when I boot, it loads UBUNTU from the CD.. and there is an icon in the workspace that allows me to install. The thing is that this process is waaay to slow and the computer freezes.. Is there a way to intall ubuntu before loading it from the cd?
[03:27] <pcfan> I don't know yabba
[03:27] <ompaul> virus, hardware can have the same chips inside and different brands outside
[03:27] <yabba> okay, i will just get this programme
[03:27] <yabba> danke :)
[03:27] <tsarkon> snoops, this is a much more instable version of Compiz
[03:27] <ompaul> !xgl
[03:27] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:27] <AndreasB> one more question: are there any other installation methods for ubuntu other than the ones in the Wiki?
[03:27] <tsarkon> snoops, I had to disable "dock" and "fade"
[03:27] <raiffhigor> still occurs the erro :"checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[03:28] <ompaul> AndreasB, have a look at help.ubuntu.com it is rather comprehensive
[03:28] <tsarkon> snoops, now I need to stresstest this version for a couple of days before I can decide whether to keep using it, or switch back to the vanilla version
[03:28] <virus> yes ompaul because for my wireless is the same file as in dell card 1350
[03:29] <Maximilian> someone knows where i can get good packageservers for xubuntu?
[03:29] <xorph> you mean a sources.list?
[03:29] <killaz> how can I put my screen resolution on 1280x1024
[03:29] <killaz> instead of 1024x768
[03:30] <Maximilian> yeah, a sources.list
[03:30] <xorph> killaz, settings --> display settings
[03:30] <killaz> cause the screen resolution shows me a max of 1024x768
[03:30] <ompaul> virus, all I can point you to is the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:30] <killaz> xorph: the max there is 1024x768
[03:30] <xorph> Maximilian, www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:30] <Maximilian> thx :)
[03:30] <kmilo> killaz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <AndreasB> ompaul: mh. i did have a look on all the documentation on help.ubuntu.com. i'm afraid i was not able to find any advanced installation documentation other than the articles in the wiki.
[03:31] <pancho> Hey! How can I install Ubuntu before loading it!! ???
[03:31] <LeaChim> pancho, eh? what do you mean?
[03:31] <pcfan> pancho: what do you mean?
[03:31] <kmilo> pancho, did you load it?
[03:31] <xorph> killaz, shure your graficcard is able to display that resulution?
[03:32] <ompaul> AndreasB, if I was you I would try a live cd or some such to test that the machine works
[03:32] <kmilo> kmilo, once configured you can Use ctrl alt + and ctrl alt - to change resolutions
[03:33] <AndreasB> ompaul: Knoppix, Gentoo, debian and fedora work flawlessly ;)
[03:33] <xorph> killaz, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:33] <ompaul> AndreasB, so then I point to the install media, bt then they are all 32bit versions perhaps?
[03:33] <pancho> I instert the CD, then a menu appears that says... Run or install UBUNTU
[03:33] <pancho> but... its too slow to run ubuntu.. and impossible to install it once Ubuntu is already running
[03:34] <xenex> how do i restart the sound?
[03:34] <kmilo> pancho, then choose install
[03:34] <neter> hi all
[03:34] <kmilo> neter, hi
[03:34] <pancho> I dont have that option
[03:34] <AndreasB> ompaul: yes. i did not like the 64 bit versions at all. i do use the 32 bit version of ubuntu, tough.
[03:34] <killaz> xorph: I'm pretty sure taht's the resolution I was using before installing ubuntu ;-)
[03:34] <neter> can anyone say me how to change the default language in squirrelmail
[03:34] <pancho> It starts Ubuntu from cd... and then, in the workspace .. there is an icon that says Install
[03:35] <pancho> but its too slow and my computer freezes
[03:35] <kmilo> pancho, did you have the alternate cd?
[03:35] <neter> when i choose other language there is no change
[03:35] <xorph> killaz, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" <-- there you can change the default resolution
[03:35] <ompaul> AndreasB,  I have nothing further to add other than maybe a new download and install - the alternate disk or something or the DVD if you have the time
[03:35] <xorph> run as su
[03:35] <pancho> my problem is that I only have this cd... a friend burned it for me
[03:35] <pancho> Should I get another CD?
[03:36] <AndreasB> ompaul: yeah, i think i'll go to bed and wait for the dvd download to finish. i'ts worth a try. Thanks anyway for your help!
[03:36] <neter> when i try dpkg-reconfigure locales it update my locales and done, where is the blue screen where i can to choose the locales
[03:37] <xorph> isn't there a locate-config-dialog anywere in the settings-menu?
[03:37] <xorph> xubuntu got one, i'm sure ubuntu got one too
[03:38] <kmilo> pancho, yes, the alternate cd that contains the old text-installer
[03:38] <Ayabara> should I check the "cap uploads" button in gnome-btdownload? if so, how many users should I allow?
[03:39] <mastertaf> Hey DBO you are the best your dhclient solved my problem
[03:39] <mastertaf> thank you
[03:39] <mastertaf> must i do dhclient each time i boot tho?
[03:39] <zOap> I've installed the cups-pdf package. But how do I use it in firefox? Should I add a printer or?
[03:40] <neter> there is a language choose in the settings menu, but it is very poor
[03:40] <neter> in the blue screen that i know have more options, etc. to choose BG-utf-8 or BG-cp1251
[03:41] <neter> in the settings menu i'm selected bulgarian, but squirrel is in english
[03:42] <raiffhigor> who can help me to solve this problem ...?!?!?
[03:42] <raiffhigor> wich types synaptics install...?!?!
[03:43] <Ayabara> I can't seem to get much speed with btdownload. can anyone help me out?
[03:43] <pennypacker> anyone knows how to get the internals browser to work in rssowl
[03:43] <tsarkon> do you know of stress test apps for linux, that you can use to check system stability?
[03:44] <tsarkon> I am trying my best right now to crash my XGL server and make it lock up
[03:44] <neutrinomass> tsarkon: System stability in terms of kernel stabililty, video stability or the hardware ?
[03:44] <raiffhigor> matthew_w
[03:44] <tsarkon> neutrinomass, video mostly
[03:44] <raiffhigor> matthew_w can you help me to solve my problem??!
[03:44] <neutrinomass> tsarkon: Try some screensavers, hibernation, 3d games, glxgears ;)
[03:44] <tsarkon> neutrinomass, I want to know I can trust this setup, because it's my primary. if I'm typing a 99 page school assignment, I don't want it to lock up
[03:45] <tsarkon> neutrinomass, ah! screensavers.. great
[03:45] <killaz> xorp: I just changed the resolution in the xorg.conff manually.. and it's working..
[03:45] <neutrinomass> tsarkon: Usually you hardly lose any data with crashing - most programs save what you type in temporary files (try some autosaving if you want to be sure ...)
[03:45] <killaz> I ment xorph
[03:46] <xorph> fine :)
[03:46] <Tommy2k4> is there a linux alternative to netlimiter? preferably with a gui, needs to limit specific applications on-the-fly without having to relaunch the app to turn the limiter on/off/change the limit
[03:47] <tsarkon> neutrinomass, ah yeah, that's true
[03:47] <tsarkon> neutrinomass, but it seems like it's very stable
[03:47] <whl> install Sun Java System Application Server in /opt/SUNWapp  , and then i delete the directory,  and then i re-install Sun Java System Application Server , generate error ,how to resolve it
[03:48] <neter> is there anyone that knows anything about my problem
[03:48] <Thijs> Hey all, I've got a sagem usb wifi dongle, but I can't get it to work. Problem is that my internet connection depends on it, so I cant apt-get packages like network-manager. I can download them in windows, but I dont know how to look for them
[03:48] <Thijs> where to look for them :)
[03:49] <kmilo> neter, you have the right locales to squirremail?
[03:49] <whl> how to delete Sun Java System Application Server cleanly
[03:49] <pppoe_dude> Thijs, packages.ubuntu.com but i dont know i it will help you
[03:49] <pppoe_dude> Thijs, looks more like a driver problem
[03:50] <Thijs> I need the eagle drivers. I know
[03:50] <Thijs> but need the kernel-sources to build it.
[03:50] <tsarkon> neutrinomass, this is phenomenal! I started 8 firefox windows also :P
[03:50] <pppoe_dude> Thijs, packages.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <tsarkon> OpenOffice might do it
[03:50] <neter> kmilo, i don't understood, what right?
[03:50] <Thijs> pppoe_dude: thanks!
[03:50] <neutrinomass> tsIt's stable for some, not for others ...
[03:51] <neter> squirrelmail is in folder with root and user privilegies
[03:52] <kmilo> neter, you have the right locales to change the "default language in squirrelmail"?
[03:52] <whl> who can help me " how to delete Sun Java System Application Server cleanly"
[03:52] <kmilo> whl, how did you install it?
[03:52] <furriner> how do you get WPA working for wifi in the latest ubuntu dapper drake?
[03:52] <neutrinomass> !wpa
[03:52] <furriner> do u have to manually edit files in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:53] <neter> with the install tool in the package
[03:53] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell furriner about wpa
[03:54] <whl> first i install success, but  i delete the install directory, i re-install is false
[03:54] <furriner> what do u install, gnome network manager?
[03:54] <neter> my squirrel was in bulgarian, but i reinstall the ubuntu and now is in english, squirrel was in other partition
[03:55] <tsarkon> well guys, I am impressed by XGL and Compiz keeping up so good in stability!
[03:55] <Rinux> I need some help: I uninstalled gstreamer and put xine in its place, but I can't play sound on my system now. I tried reinstalling gstreamer, but now it's a huge mess, and I still have no sound.
[03:55] <furriner> hello?
[03:55] <furriner> !wpa
[03:55] <tsarkon> I have all the heavy apps running, including everything in OpenOffice except Base
[03:56] <tsarkon> 8 firefox windows, three terminals, GLMatrix, glxgears, an AbiWord document
[03:56] <furriner> ok, i got that, ty
[03:58] <snoops> the vanilla is what caught you up eh tsarkon?
[03:58] <eneried> hello people
[03:59] <tsarkon> snoops, well.. I didn't know the more fancy version worked so well
[03:59] <eneried> could anybody help me? my dapper doesn't shutdown or hibernate my system well, but breezy can, i don't know what the problem is...
[03:59] <tsarkon> snoops, this stress test of mine clearly shows that I can trust it. I should just in case, though, make all these idle in the background at night, while asleep and check back at the computer afterwards
[04:00] <neutrinomass> eneried:try to shut down ... if it fails pastebin the output of "dmesg" please ...
[04:00] <partsguy> how do I go about getting rid of my old kernels? I want to keep the 2 most current
[04:00] <tsarkon> and see if it's still running as expected
[04:00] <neutrinomass> eneried: 'dmesg' and 'cat /var/log/messages' ...
[04:00] <protocol2> partsguy, go into synaptic and remove them
[04:01] <czr> where do the initrd-developer guys/girls hang out?
[04:01] <protocol2> go to the base section and remove the older ones you dont want
[04:01] <eneried> neutrinomass, if i do that my computer start all the shutdown procedures, stop disks network interfaces and all things and keep on the last message telling me "system will now be halted" or someting like that, hibernating i hear when the system shutdown harddisks but cpu continues on, and system cannot restart
[04:02] <Ryugi> what is the name of the package that contains the c compiler and the header files
[04:02] <partsguy> but they weren't installed throught synaptic I compiled the newest one and one is some weird older version thatI've never even used
[04:02] <czr> Ryugi, gcc (compiler) and libc-dev
[04:02] <Ryugi> yeah
[04:02] <Ryugi> which one contains the header files
[04:02] <czr> well, if gcc contains the compiler..
[04:02] <Discipulus1> it says in the wiki how to mount an iso file, well how do I mount a bin/cue file?
[04:02] <mz2> tsarkon: i've been quite happy with xgl&compiz too, had it running for about a month. only annoyance is that Java apps using Swing didn't seem to work too solidly/at all with it
[04:03] <czr> Discipulus1, convert first into iso. only isos can be mounted
[04:04] <darkyoshi372> I have an SD card that isn't formatted, but I can't do anything with it in the "Disks" thingy. How do I format it to FAT?
[04:04] <Ryugi> ok
[04:05] <neutrinomass> eneried: How comfortable are you with a console ?
[04:05] <eneried> i'll explain my problem, i said my computer to shutdown or hibernate, it does all the processes, killing processes and shuting down hardware devices, but, at the end, it remains on, my cpu and board, but eberything else is off, seems to be a problem of power management between operative system and board
[04:05] <eneried> neutrinomass, i can use it ;)
[04:06] <interferon> i've been having problems with gdm and sessions since upgrading to breezy.  is it possible to tell synaptic or apt-get to remove all gnome packages and their configurations, and then replace them?
[04:06] <interferon> s/replace/reinstall/
[04:06] <fimbulvetr> apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop ??
[04:07] <Ryugi> does anyone here have slow performance transfering files to ubuntu (using samba) from a windows machine
[04:07] <thrice`> hm...who packages the gaim2 beta3 packs?
[04:07] <redeye> hi
[04:07] <neutrinomass> eneried: OK. Do the following: ctrl+alt+f1. This will take you to a terminal. Shutdown from there. When your system appears to have hanged, hit alt+sysrq+1 followed by alt+sysrq+t. Save the output of 'dmesg' to a file, 'sync' (to make sure it gets written) and restart ...
[04:08] <eneried> neutrinomass, what key is sysrq?
[04:08] <redeye> is there an alternative for nm-applet? i have this keyring issue... unfortunately i removed some app from my panel which was used for networking before and iu dont remember which it was
[04:09] <interferon> fimbulvetr, can i get that to apply to all of its subpackages as well?
[04:09] <redeye> i basically just want to have my wlan up automatically without having to enter a pw
[04:09] <neutrinomass> eneried: It's "Print screen/sysrq". On a QWERTY keyboard you'll see it above "home"
[04:09] <fimbulvetr> Yeah, it works for installing, I'm just not sure if it works for removing( hence the ??), it's a meta package.
[04:10] <pppoe_dude> redeye, do you use wpa?
[04:10] <redeye> no wpe
[04:10] <fimbulvetr> If it works, lemme know because I have a workstation I'd like to do that to too.
[04:10] <redeye> its because of the wpe key
[04:10] <interferon> fimbulvetr, it only selects the package itself
[04:10] <redeye> or passphrase
[04:10] <eneried> neutrinomass, near scroll lock and pause/break ;)
[04:10] <fimbulvetr> interferon: Maybe there's a apt-get remove options for "And the dependencies too".
[04:10] <redeye> i was stupid coz  it worked great before... but dunno how to get it back :/
[04:11] <dr_willis> hmm.. updated last night, powered off.. went to bed.. now ubuntu aint booting with either kernel. Just dumps me to busybox.
[04:11] <Ryugi> dapper samba is really much slower than breezy
[04:11] <Ryugi> why is this so
[04:11] <Ryugi> and is there any fix for this
[04:11] <eneried> neutrinomass, brb ;)
[04:11] <neutrinomass> eneried: That's it :)
[04:11] <Bluetooth> hi all
[04:11] <Bluetooth> I have a question concerning intalling new version
[04:12] <interferon> Bluetooth, ask it; don't ask to ask
[04:12] <neutrinomass> Bluetooth: Shoot and if somebody knows, they will help you :)
[04:12] <BlueEagle> bluetooth: "new version" being dapper?
[04:12] <alex_montandon> hey guys, i installed ubuntu, am lovin it and would like to delete the windows partition - how?
[04:12] <Bluetooth> I got Ubuntu 5.10 updated to 6.06 at home without any problem
[04:12] <thrice`> alex_montandon: :)
[04:12] <BlueEagle> alex_montandon: sudo fdisk or gparted or qparted
[04:12] <redeye> i found a fix for my prob on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187874 but i cant install it as it says no makefile found
[04:13] <BlueEagle> !build_essential
[04:13] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[04:13] <Bluetooth> but at school where I study it can't connect to internet because of very complicated network
[04:13] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell redeye about build_essentials
[04:13] <neutrinomass> redeye: Maybe you have to ./configure first ?
[04:13] <alex_montandon> cool thanks guys ill check it out
[04:13] <BlueEagle> o.O
[04:13] <redeye> i did
[04:13] <BlueEagle> build-essential
[04:13] <BlueEagle> !build-essential
[04:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[04:13] <redeye> ok
[04:13] <redeye> thx
[04:13] <BlueEagle> ahh there it is.
[04:14] <neutrinomass> redeye: Then try build-essential (I see BlueEagle freakin out if you don't :P )
[04:14] <Bluetooth> can I update it somehow or have I to install new version upon old one?
[04:14] <BlueEagle> neutrinomass: ;D
[04:14] <kmilo> How should I name an spanish translation of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions ?
[04:14] <Bluetooth> I mean without internet connection
[04:15] <feihung> My Ubuntu 6.06 takes 3+ minutes on booting (Mounting root file systems) and it stuck on line running /scripts/local-top "hdc: no response (status = 0xe3), resetting drive" I only have 1 drive - hda (no usb), how I remove hdc, thanks.
[04:15] <Bluetooth> so?
[04:15] <BlueEagle> bluetooth: I believe you can do that if you've got the dapper install cd.
[04:15] <redeye> i already had build_essentials installed^^
[04:15] <Bluetooth> I do
[04:15] <neutrinomass> Bluetooth: Downlaod the alternate CD - you can upgrade from that
[04:15] <Bluetooth> ok
[04:15] <neutrinomass> redeye: Please pastebin the error then :)
[04:15] <Bluetooth> thanx
[04:15] <BlueEagle> bluetooth: What you need to do is get the source.list for a dapper installation and then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade me thinks.
[04:15] <BlueEagle> bluetooth: However I might be wrong about that.
[04:16] <BlueEagle> neutrinomass: Ahh, there's an option on the alternate for that?
[04:16] <Bluetooth> BlueEagle: the problem is the system cannot connect to internet
[04:16] <feihung> Hello please help my ubuntu takes 3 minutes on booting
[04:16] <neutrinomass> BlueEagle: Yes, you can't update from the 'desktop' (live) cd AFAIK ....
[04:16] <BlueEagle> bluetooth: I know, but with the dapper sources.list it will look on the CD.
[04:16] <Bluetooth> ok
[04:16] <snoops> hey umm, how can I get the extra options compiz offers for the right click menu back again?
[04:16] <neutrinomass> feihung: While booting, on the splash screen, hit escape and see where it hangs ...
[04:17] <simpkins> is there a way to fix this ( When ever i click like view inbox on either kopete, or when i click a html link that is not already in a web browser it opens it with konqour(Which i hate) Is there a way to make everything only open up in firefox ???
[04:17] <snoops> (when right clicking on the title bar) there were advanced options for setting appearance etc.. after update.. not there anymore
[04:17] <feihung> yes it stuck on line running /scripts/local-top "hdc: no response (status = 0xe3), resetting drive" I only have 1 drive - hda (no usb), how I remove hdc, thanks.
[04:17] <BlueEagle> neutrinomass: Well there's always a way. If I haven't misunderstood how dist-upgrade works using the dapper sources.list would make apt-get look for the dapper packages on the dapper cd. I might be very wrong on this tho.
[04:17] <tsarkon> after a reboot I suddenly lost mixer settings for ALSA. the mixer doesn't work, I can't control the sound from Beep Media Player, and I don't get sound from MPlayer. I can only control sound from GNOME systray
[04:17] <redeye> neutrinomass here's my error make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:18] <neutrinomass> simpkins: I'm not sure - In firefox, edit-> preferences->Check for default browser. Use that to make ff your default browser.
[04:18] <BlueEagle> feihung: have you got a cd-rom drive on hdc?
[04:18] <Discipulus1> also I can't mount my new USB CD Burner
[04:18] <neutrinomass> redeye: Then you haven't done ./configure . ./configure produces a Makefile (or fails - check for errors in ./configure )
[04:18] <feihung> yes but I have unplug it
[04:18] <redeye> i did
[04:18] <Discipulus1> Anyone know why that is?
[04:18] <scifi> is it safe to format my windows xp boot partition to ntfs from within ubuntu ?
[04:18] <zOap> I want a user bin available for gnome/gtk. Is it enough to add the file .gtkrc.mine and put the path in there?
[04:18] <roicominutsoup> hi, did someone ever used curlftpfs ?
[04:18] <BlueEagle> feihung: Ahh, I see. Well passing -noprobe hdc to the kernel should fix it. Let me get the syntax for grub for you.
[04:19] <neutrinomass> BlueEagle: Not sure if it can be done. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody though :P
[04:19] <BlueEagle> neutrinomass: :)
[04:19] <BlueEagle> neutrinomass: Well not when there's "a better way"(tm) using the alternate install cd. :)
[04:20] <redeye> neutrinomass can i send u make output in private chat?
[04:20] <neutrinomass> redeye: Yes, if you like. But pastebinning it will let everybody see it so you stand better chances of being helped (www.pastebin.com )
[04:20] <redeye> ok
[04:20] <BlueEagle> feihung: ok, in your /boot/grub/menu.lst you'll have a line that reads something like this: kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash
[04:21] <redeye> i am quite a linux noob so i am rather slow
[04:21] <BlueEagle> feihung: to the end of that you add: hdc=noprobe
[04:21] <farshim> I have desgined a new keyboard. How do I make it avialable to others?
[04:21] <neutrinomass> redeye: No worries. Can you paste the file now in a pastebin (www.pastebin.com) ?
[04:21] <feihung> thank you BlueEagle I will try it
[04:21] <Bluetooth> I had a problem mounting NTFS partitions on SATA HDD
[04:22] <Bluetooth> it say FAILED during boot of OS
[04:22] <BlueEagle> feihung: if that still causes problems take two aspirin and come back and see us.
[04:22] <protocol2> farshim, this is software your talking about right?
[04:22] <BlueEagle> :p
[04:22] <redeye> neutrinomass i just posted it
[04:22] <neutrinomass> redeye: Give us the link :P ?
[04:22] <Bluetooth> and same FAILED when I try to mount it manually
[04:22] <erUSUL> Bluetooth: have you tried to mount it manually
[04:22] <Bluetooth> what to do?
[04:22] <scifi> is it safe to format my windows xp boot partition to ntfs from within ubuntu ?
[04:22] <farshim> protocol2: No just the unicode codes in the xkb layout files
[04:22] <redeye> http://pastebin.com/716479
[04:22] <CrazyDoode> i blew away my mbr and i don't see a way to get back to hda2 to run grub using the 6.06 boot disks
[04:22] <pppoe_dude> scifi, no
[04:22] <erUSUL> Bluetooth: any error msg?
[04:22] <zhenr1> what is the best way to install webmin for ubuntu...or is there a good replacement...I've just spent several hours installing ISPconfig and find it much less useful...
[04:23] <Bluetooth> don't remember exactly
[04:23] <pppoe_dude> scifi, i don't think you can format ntfs from ubuntu
[04:23] <Bluetooth> but I think there were no error messages
[04:23] <scifi> can anyone confirm that ?
[04:23] <[Ex0r] > zhenr1, to install webmin? Dowload the .tar.gz from the site, unpack it, and run /setup.sh
[04:23] <neutrinomass> Hm... redeye, what are you trying to compile in the first place ?
[04:23] <Bluetooth> maybe the reason is poor support of SATA interface?
[04:23] <pppoe_dude> scifi, man mkfs
[04:24] <redeye> neutrinomass: pam keyring
[04:24] <[Ex0r] > zhenr1, - you'll have to use sudo ./setup.sh
[04:24] <redeye> from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187874&highlight=keyring
[04:24] <redeye> just followed the above guide
[04:24] <feihung> :-) sure since  actually I am a teacher and running 12 ubuntu computers and what makes me confuse is 5 computers get this problem (booting takes 3-5 minutes)  and 7 computers not I did same for all computers I Installed with cdrom then I Unplug it
[04:25] <zhenr1> [exor] : will I have to do anything special to get the modules
[04:25] <[Ex0r] > feihung, what problem are you getting ?
[04:25] <myworld122> hey guys...does anybody any program that can merge ext3 partitions?
[04:25] <[Ex0r] > zhenr1, the third-party modules? Nope, just copy-paste the .wbm file from the website into the module installer
[04:25] <Bluetooth> so?
[04:25] <scifi> pppoe_dude: ok so id have to boot into dos and do it like that? wud this affect the grub loader for linux tho ?
[04:26] <neutrinomass> redeye: You sure it's not in the repos somewhere, right ?
[04:26] <redeye> repos?
[04:26] <pppoe_dude> scifi, is grub installed on MBR and which partition is the to-be-ntfs?
[04:26] <neutrinomass> redeye: Sorry, repositories
[04:26] <redeye> sry not native eng.
[04:26] <feihung> My Ubuntu 6.06 takes 3+ minutes on booting (Mounting root file systems) and it stuck on line running /scripts/local-top "hdc: no response (status = 0xe3), resetting drive" I only have 1 drive - hda (no usb)
[04:26] <neutrinomass> redeye: The Ubuntu software channels, main/universe/multiverse ...
[04:27] <[Ex0r] > Than what is hdc ?
[04:27] <redeye> didnt check that yet
[04:27] <Ryugi> what is the name of the package that contains the c++ header files
[04:27] <scifi> pppoe_dude: i dont know if grub is installed on mbr. i want to ntfs format my C drive, which is where XP boots from. my ubuntu installation is on a seperate drive
[04:27] <redeye> takes some time on my comp
[04:28] <[Ex0r] > scifi, does windows xp
[04:28] <[Ex0r] > scifi, does windows xp's bootload come up, or does the grub boot loader come up ?
[04:28] <myworld122> does anybody know any program that can merge ext3 partitions?
[04:28] <[Ex0r] > myworld122, qparted
[04:28] <[Ex0r] > ?
[04:29] <neutrinomass> redeye: Have you read the rest of the thread in the forum? It specifies some more packages that need to be installed (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187874)
[04:29] <[Ex0r] > myworld122, check that, gparted
[04:29] <scifi> [Ex0r] : grub first, then xp boot options (safe mode, normal etc)
[04:29] <mchehab> hi, guys. I'm trying to install ubuntu desktop 6.06 on a machine with a legacy monitor (low refresh rates, no plug-and play).
[04:29] <feihung> [Ex0r]  I install with cdrom after installation finished I unpluged cdrom. I think hdc is my cdrom BlueEagle give me an answer hdc=noprobe in grub kernel parameter
[04:29] <myworld122> [Ex0r] : can I run that from within linux or do i need a liveCD?
[04:29] <Kraig> good morning, i read about "deb http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main" sources to get gaim-vv with webcam/voice support, however, when i click on "View my Webcam" i can only see a birdie, using a yahoo account, any ideas?
[04:30] <BlueEagle> feihung: did it work?
[04:30] <[Ex0r] > myworld122, not sure, just heard about it.
[04:30] <[Ex0r] > scifi, than grub is installed in the mbr :)
[04:30] <mchehab> I can't convince umbutu go to a refresh rate that is compatible with my monitor....
[04:30] <myworld122> [Ex0r] : i've tried using it to format partitions...but not sure it can merge
[04:30] <[Ex0r] > Kraig, IIRC, they have to be using gaim as well.
[04:31] <Maximilian> how do i see what ubuntu version i'm using? (breezy/hoary etc..)
[04:31] <[Ex0r] > Maximilian, uname -r
[04:31] <scifi> [Ex0r] : so if i formatted xp boot-drive, GRUB wont be affected ?
[04:31] <Kraig> [Ex0r] : i remember seeing their webcam ages ago when ubuntu didn't exists, on debian.
[04:31] <Maximilian> that's just the kernel
[04:31] <feihung> BlueEagle I'll try it tomorrow  the computer is in my office and  I home already chatting and watching world cup 2006, Thanks.
[04:31] <[Ex0r] > scifi, do you have a boot floppy handy? Use fdisk to format the ntfs sytem
[04:31] <sven_> doe someone has a link to the dapper cvs install manual of MPlayer?
[04:31] <[Ex0r] > scifi, do you have a boot floppy handy? Use fdisk to format the ntfs system*
[04:31] <BlueEagle> maximilian: cat /etc/issue
[04:32] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a USB ADSL modem ?
[04:32] <[Ex0r] > feihung, if that doesn't work, just disable the cd-rom in bios
[04:32] <scifi> [Ex0r] : no, but i think they are easy to create
[04:32] <[Ex0r] > scifi, go to www.bootdisks.com, and download the win98se bootdisk, and save it to a floppy disk. Restart the PC with it in and get into a dos prompt, than run fdisk
[04:33] <[Ex0r] > and select the partition you want formatted (You'll know, the linux partitions will be marked as type unknown)
[04:33] <PZico> Hi, I couldn't install Ubuntu using floppies and net by instructions on wiki. It was made too complicated and those steps didn't work, lot of small details missing and requires existing linux system or another windows operating system ...
[04:33] <sven_> can I change the repositories of breezy to dapper for the cvs installation of MPlayer?
[04:33] <scifi> [Ex0r] : will it give me the option to choose which drive i want to format ?
[04:33] <redeye> neutrinomass i forgot libgnome-keyring-dev
[04:33] <PZico> however I could start installing debian net
[04:33] <PZico> from floppies
[04:33] <[Ex0r] > scifi, you've never used fdisk before?
[04:33] <PZico> why don't they have such easy way for installation for Ubuntu ?
[04:33] <neutrinomass> redeye: There you go :)
[04:33] <BlueEagle> feihung: Well if it does not work the problem might be with the initrd you've got. Fixing that might be a tad worse. However disabling secondary IDE master in the bios might also fix the problem. Atleast set it to "none" if it's set to anything else.
[04:33] <redeye> neutrinamass thx 4 ur patience :)
[04:34] <neutrinomass> PZico: Because most people install using the CD ...
[04:34] <neutrinomass> redeye: Happy to help :)
[04:34] <miguel_> add #ubuntu-es
[04:34] <scifi> [Ex0r] : nope, never had to. this is the first time ive formatted my boot-drive. the 250gig drive i fitted, i used the manufacturers formatting tool to ntfs format it :)
[04:34] <xenex> restarting
[04:34] <PZico> but I would have thought that even special cases are made easier in Ubuntu comparated to Debian that is less for novices
[04:34] <miguel_> #add ubuntu-es
[04:34] <sven_> anyone? MPlayer cvs installation in Dapper??
[04:34] <BlueEagle> !es
[04:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:34] <[Ex0r] > scifi, actually now that I remember fdisk will only create and delete partitions. If you want to format the partition you have to use something else.
[04:34] <neutrinomass> sven_: Why do you even want CVS ?
[04:35] <[Ex0r] > scifi, are you on a high-speed connection ?
[04:35] <pppoe_dude> scifi,  you can reinstall grub in the worst case
[04:35] <scifi> [Ex0r] : just 1mbit
[04:35] <eneried> hello neutrinomass
[04:35] <sven_> neutrinomass: newest mplayer and sure that everything works,
[04:35] <[Ex0r] > scifi, close enough :)
[04:35] <neutrinomass> sven_: Your chances are better to get it working with the repository version (its in multiverse if I remember correctly)
[04:35] <eneried> i cannot copy anything when shuting down, because there's no system on when computer hangs
[04:35] <neutrinomass> eneried: I was wondering what happened ...
[04:36] <[Ex0r] > scifi, do you have a torrent software ?
[04:36] <neutrinomass> eneried: Hm... that sucks. Could you take a photograph or write it down ?
[04:36] <sven_> neutrinomass: I know, I'll try that first, I was used to installing the CVS version in Breezy and it worked fine...
[04:36] <scifi> [Ex0r] : not on ubuntu, but i do in xp
[04:36] <eneried> neutrinomass, ok, i'll tell you: the system end all, but hardware
[04:36] <afborran> hi im a total noob at ubuntu,why cant i even get through the first screen after select "start or install ubuntu" ver 6.06
[04:37] <[Ex0r] > scifi, http://www.9down.com/downloads.php?fileid=207
[04:37] <[Ex0r] > download this tool
[04:37] <[Ex0r] > very helpful
[04:37] <IsDis4Me> greetings, I am currently using Java j2re1.4 is there any great need or urgency for me to upgrade to 1.5?
[04:37] <BlueEagle> afborran: Are you attempting to install ubuntu or have you installed it and want to get it working?
[04:37] <eneried> neutrinomass, it shutdown proceses, kill remaining proceses, umounting anything, stop network interfaces, unload all modules and send at the end this message "will now halt"
[04:37] <kkaisare> IsDis4Me: Not to the best of my knowledge.
[04:37] <IsDis4Me> smashing
[04:37] <IsDis4Me> I will upgrade later then
[04:38] <IsDis4Me> thanks
[04:38] <[Ex0r] > After you download it, burn the image to a cd and restart the computer with the cd in. Once it loads up, select Load BOOTCD, than when the screen shows up, select Disk Partitioning Software, than select Partition Magic 8
[04:38] <afborran> no i have been trying to install it
[04:38] <eneried> neutrinomass, i was waitning as halting action the power down, but board dont shutdown
[04:38] <[Ex0r] > it will give you a visual and interactable progarm to format hdd's on the system
[04:38] <[Ex0r] > program*
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> afborran, are you getting any error messages?
[04:38] <neutrinomass> eneried: Yeah you told me. Try checking out /var/log/ . You'll see a few files named "kern.log*". Check whether one of them may have been written today (I think that when you do that sysrq thing, the trace gets logged in such a file)...
[04:39] <eneried> neutrinomass, then, there's no system and nothing to record the sutdown process because there's all ginished, but board and cpu fan
[04:39] <afborran> do i have to get a formatted hard drive to install ubuntu
[04:39] <neutrinomass> eneried: Hm.... didn't the sysrq thing work ?
[04:39] <eneried> neutrinomass, i'll try, but as i said / will be umounted before the problem
[04:39] <pppoe_dude> afborran, no, you can either do that from within the installer or get it to do it automaticaly?
[04:39] <feihung> [Ex0r]  and BlueEagle thanks for all tips I'll try it tomorrow
[04:39] <scifi> [Ex0r] : thats alot of software :O
[04:39] <pppoe_dude> afborran, - ?
[04:39] <eneried> all is umounted, but i'll take a look
[04:40] <[Ex0r] > scifi, it's all one big package, that'll burn onto the cd. Very helpful.
[04:40] <scifi> [Ex0r] : cudnt i just download partition magic ?
[04:40] <neutrinomass> eneried: Yes, I understand that but maybe it gets remounted to write the log - not sure. If not, it's quite impossible to debug these without a digital camera / lots of handwriting ...
[04:40] <afborran> my computer just restarts when selecting "install ubuntu". Why?
[04:40] <[Ex0r] > nah, the full version is a bit expensive and symantec doesnt have a trial for it
[04:40] <pppoe_dude> afborran, does it restart or boot into ubuntu?
[04:41] <[Ex0r] > scifi, besides, alot of these tools will save your life one day
[04:41] <scacco[] > a free linux basic compiler ?
[04:41] <afborran> no just into the setup again. or if i take out the cd it loads win
[04:41] <neutrinomass> scacco[] : gcc ? "sudo apt-get install build-essential" should give you a build environment ...
[04:41] <eneried> neutrinomass, i'm looking the kern log...
[04:42] <scifi> [Ex0r] : theres anewer version Hirens BootCD 8.1, shud i get that ?
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> afborran, into the setup?
[04:42] <afborran> tes
[04:42] <afborran> yes
[04:42] <[Ex0r] > scifi, I was having trouble finding that one. If you can find the download for it, go ahead
[04:42] <BlueEagle> afborran: Tell us a bit more about your computer. The most interesting bits are your graphics card (make and model), your harddrive (ide or sata) and your ide or sata chipset if you know what it is. Also knowing a bit about your cd-rom might help.
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> afborran, as in the boot screen?
[04:42] <scacco[] > neutrinomass: gcc compile basic ?
[04:42] <BlueEagle> afborran: oh, and the amount of RAM you've got is also good to know. :)
[04:42] <neutrinomass> scacco[] : Oh, sorry, I missed the basic part :(
[04:42] <afborran> ok 192mb
[04:43] <[Ex0r] > Alrighty guys, i'm taking off now. I got up way too early today.
[04:43] <scacco[] > neutrinomass: lol :D no problem
[04:43] <erUSUL> scacco[] : what do you mean by "basic"?
[04:43] <scifi> [Ex0r] : 9down pirate software ?
[04:43] <[Ex0r] > scifi, no, not that i'm aware of
[04:43] <scacco[] > erUSUL: BASIC language
[04:43] <scacco[] > :)
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> afborran, ok so what exactly happens when you select "start / install Ubuntu" from the boot screen?
[04:43] <n30n> !wine
[04:43] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[04:43] <BlueEagle> afborran: ...and the graphics card and drive/chipset?
[04:43] <erUSUL> scacco[] : try gambas
[04:43] <[Ex0r] > scifi, I didn't go through the site, I went to the first link that has hiren's bootcd available for download.
[04:44] <scacco[] > erUSUL: ok... thx
[04:44] <neutrinomass> eneried: In any case, you have to file a bug report. Try to include as much info as possible. "lspci" and "dmesg" sound like this you should attach to it... maybe a kernel developer will have an idea on how to debug this .... Of course if you can write down / take a picture of the trace you saw on the screen, you stand much better chances of having it fixed...
[04:44] <afborran> it starts loading the initrd.gz then it restarts
[04:44] <eneried> neutrinomass, i can't read anything related tyo the problem :'(
[04:44] <shirow> how can i stop applications from autolaunching on an event
[04:44] <erUSUL> scacco[] : http://gambas.sourceforge.net/
[04:44] <shirow> for instance i don't want soundjuicer to launch when i insert an audio cd
[04:44] <neutrinomass> eneried: Yeah, probably didn't get written
[04:44] <[Ex0r] > i'm still trying to figure out how to set my default music player to xmms
[04:44] <eneried> (T-T)
[04:45] <scacco[] > erUSUL: apt-cache search gambas :) apt-get install gambas ;) thx
[04:45] <pppoe_dude> afborran, any error messages you can notice?
[04:45] <scifi> [Ex0r] : i think u'll find hirens cd is a pirate package :c
[04:45] <neutrinomass> erUSUL: Heh, VB for Linux. Any experience with it ?
[04:45] <afborran> i440bx and a geforce 2
[04:45] <[Ex0r] > scifi, lol, if that was the case my local college would be in a very big lawsuit
[04:45] <NoUse> shirow I believe its System -> Prefs -> Removable Media
[04:45] <garryfre> Hello. I need some advice, Back when I had breezy, I installed both gnome and kde destops. At first there were some issues, that went away, maybe a minor glitch I've forgotten about. Now I'm asking if it is wise to try to install KDE on Ubuntu so that I have both again, but I don't want to do this without asking this time. Thanks.
[04:45] <afborran> no no error message i see
[04:45] <scifi> [Ex0r] : haha :)
[04:45] <erUSUL> neutrinomass: no, i only knew it by reading it in inet...
[04:46] <LeaChim> garryfre, there should be no problem.
[04:46] <shirow> nouse: thanks!
[04:46] <NoUse> shirow no prob
[04:46] <neutrinomass> Anybody with a USB ADSL modem ?
[04:46] <BlueEagle> afborran: Please, this is the third time I am asking your for a bit of information. It might be helpful to us to know which graphics card you have got (make and model). Also it would be nice to know what kind of a harddisk you have got and which ide- or sata-chipset your motherboard has got.
[04:47] <afborran> ok 1 min
[04:48] <garryfre> LeaChim Thanks. Now I could install the packages masses, if only I could finde one of my two sets of glasses!
[04:48] <Tommy2k4> is there a linux alternative to netlimiter? preferably with a gui, needs to limit specific applications on-the-fly without having to relaunch the app to turn the limiter on/off/change the limit
[04:48] <LeaChim> garryfre, lol
[04:48] <[Ex0r] > anyone know how to setup system default apps ?
[04:49] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , wanna change the default app for a file type?
[04:49] <Tommy2k4> [Ex0r] , kde?
[04:49] <[Ex0r] > Tommy2k4, gnome. Trying to change my default music player to xmms
[04:49] <afborran> gfx:nvidia geforce 2 Chipset:i440bx hd:maxtor ide drive 80gb
[04:49] <Tommy2k4> dunno bout gnome
[04:49] <LeaChim> [Ex0r] , system, preferences, preferred applications
[04:50] <[Ex0r] > LeaChim, went there, only shows it for mail and web browser
[04:50] <scacco[] > erUSUL: thx a lot :)
[04:50] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , gnome: right-click on audio file, proprieties, open with
[04:50] <LeaChim> ah
[04:51] <BlueEagle> afborran: Is it an integrated graphics card? When you try to boot can you choose different resolutions under VGA? Have you tried adding nosplash to the advanced options?
[04:51] <nanomad> LeaChim, on my sistem it let change only the browser, the mail client and the terminal app
[04:51] <[Ex0r] > nanomad, no way to do it for all media types? mp3, avi, etc ?
[04:51] <BlueEagle> !boot
[04:51] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BlueEagle
[04:51] <LeaChim> nanomad, yeh, i just looked and saw :P
[04:51] <BlueEagle> !bootoptions
[04:51] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions not the full complement of boot options but it is some of them
[04:51] <afborran> ok ill test that
[04:51] <|reezeh|> hi ... the ubuntu installation cd a livecd or the livecd a seperate thing?
[04:52] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , none that i know
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > alrighty, thanks
[04:52] <rixxon> |reezeh|: in dapper, it is both
[04:52] <xorph> the xubuntu livecd works as installcd too
[04:52] <|reezeh|> k ta
[04:52] <BlueEagle> afborran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions the option you want is debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[04:53] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , you could create dummy files using touch
[04:53] <|reezeh|> so is there a seperate livecd or it just the install disc? ... i don't want to wipe my stuff accidentally yet ;)
[04:53] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , and then change the association
[04:54] <dr_willis> dont insult the files!  :) they are just files... with.. no er... content. :P
[04:54] <steko> hi all. for who's interested in GIS check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS, there's a restyling going on
[04:54] <dr_willis> |reezeh|,  the live cd is also the install cd.
[04:54] <joemauch> what's a good alternative to rhythmbox?
[04:55] <steko> joemauch: quod libet, banshee
[04:55] <steko> joemauch: both very cool and friendly
[04:55] <|reezeh|> tata
[04:56] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , still here? maybe i've found a way to do it
[04:56] <joemauch> steko: thanks
[04:57] <steko> joemauch: glad to help
[04:57] <nanomad> [Ex0r] , you can change associations by editing /usr/share/applications/defaults.list as root
[04:58] <afborran> came a little bit further or at least i saw some text, but i cant figure out in what stage it rebooted in. btw a tnt2 is the gfx sry about that. Does that change anything?
[04:58] <steko> !pastebin
[04:58] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:58] <sayuta> hello
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> hello
[05:00] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[05:02] <_Luks> brazilllll \o/
[05:02] <danfg> yay!
[05:02] <danfg> how do i install vim 7? latest vim in repositories is 6.4
[05:03] <xorph> compile it yourself from source
[05:03] <kmilo> danfg, what says in the vim web page?
[05:03] <xorph> may try first apt-get update
[05:03] <MetaMorfoziS> dafg from the original site
[05:03] <xorph> to get the latest package-list
[05:03] <danfg> xorph: but do i have to remove the original vim i got here?
[05:04] <xorph> i dont think so...
[05:04] <skac> can someone do locate mozilla.png
[05:04] <GTX> how can I stop people from seeing whats in /home/ and going into other people users directorys, i forgot cmd. its like a chmod thing
[05:04] <skac> and tell me where abouts they keep gnome icons
[05:04] <xorph> skac, what are you looking for?
[05:04] <danfg> xorph: do you mean add the vim repository to the apt-get list?
[05:04] <GTX> and where I get libstdc++.so.6 from?
[05:04] <skac> xorph: just the path for icons.
[05:04] <xorph> no, apt-get update fetches the latest package-list
[05:04] <skac> i don't run ubuntu, i am trying to help a friend.
[05:05] <xorph> skac, /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:05] <skac> thank you
[05:06] <erUSUL> GTX:  apt-cache search libstdc++
[05:06] <GTX> Yup got it now erUSUL
[05:06] <GTX> You know how to stop other users from seeing whats in home and other peoples users directorys?
[05:07] <danfg> xorph: according to repo (i got universe, multiverse, etc. enabled), latest vim is 6.4 (yes i updated). i know how to compile from source, but just wondering: should i remove the existing package, install over it, what is the proper way of doing this?
[05:08] <xorph> i think its not need to uninstall first...
[05:08] <dr_willis> GTX,  if the default permissions are set right - they shouldent be able todo so.
[05:08] <dr_willis> GTX,   make the dirs non executable for others/world I think
[05:08] <GTX> dr_willis, They can go into /home/ and see whos in there
[05:08] <xorph> but maybe there will leave som not used files on your hdd
[05:08] <erUSUL> GTX: set restrictive  permisions with nautilus to your home dir
[05:08] <Kibou> danfg: proper would be probably to wait until vim7 hits the repos.. which it most likely won't until edgy
[05:08] <dr_willis> now for /home/ id say dont mess with that.
[05:08] <GTX> erUSUL, how do I do it from cmd prompt, runnign server here
[05:08] <danfg> xorph: ok i'll install over the existing files then
[05:09] <sskennel> I'm trying to upgrade an amd64 Dapper pre-release system to the current Dapper and am in package dependency hell. I need to keep this system at MySQL 4.1, but some packages unexpectedly seem to depend on MySQL 5.
[05:09] <danfg> Kibou: you're right, but i really want to use 7
[05:09] <afborran> ps2 controller is the last thing i see before the restart
[05:09] <DBO> sskennel, what packages would those be?
[05:09] <sskennel> I've uploaded a typescript illustrating my problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15907
[05:09] <nanomad> GTX,  try sudo chmod -rwx homefolder
[05:09] <erUSUL> GTX: chmod 700 $HOME so only you will have access to your home dir
[05:10] <danfg> anyone here using wine doors?
[05:10] <DBO> sskennel, ok, lemme take a looksie
[05:10] <nanomad> GTX, dont try my suggestion...it is wrong!!!
[05:11] <sskennel> php4-mysql php5-mysql and libdbd-mysql-perl
[05:11] <afborran> blue eagle:still restarts but i see now the last message "ps2 controller" before the restart
[05:11] <sskennel> Details in the pastebin
[05:12] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have external dvdwriter?
[05:12] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:12] <GTX> erUSUL, now nothing works!!!!
[05:12] <GTX> erUSUL, no one can login to the there own user now
[05:13] <DBO> sskennel, try uninstalling mysql-server (just a virtual package) and install mysql-server-4.1
[05:13] <nanomad> GTX, strange chmod 700 /home/user works here
[05:13] <GTX> nanomad, No no, I mean /home/
[05:13] <DBO> sskennel, actually mysql-server-4.1 should already be installed, but you get the idea
[05:13] <GTX> To stop users being able to see whats in /home/
[05:13] <sskennel> DBO, checking...
[05:13] <GTX> I did chmod 700 /home/
[05:13] <GTX> :S
[05:14] <nanomad> GTX, /home belongs to root... and all the folders inside it are now locked to users
[05:14] <GTX> nanomad, I have done it before with an chmod command so users cannot see inside /home/
[05:15] <rixxon> heh, GTX :)
[05:15] <zire72> hi, i'm using ubuntu version 5.04 and am having trouble getting a 2 button 1 scroll wheel wired ps/2 optical mouse to work.
[05:15] <sskennel> DBO, "mysql-server-4.1 is already the newest version.", "Package mysql-server is not installed, so not removed"
[05:15] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:16] <DBO> sskennel, ok, the easiest solution for you might be to install mysql into /opt/ since most of the dependancies are updated to mysql 5
[05:16] <DBO> sskennel, otherwise you are going to have to override a lot of depends or hold back a lot of upgrades
[05:16] <GTX> nanomad, so what shall I do ? ;x
[05:17] <nanomad> GTX, trying to figure it out
[05:17] <sskennel> DBO, so the idea would be to have mysql 5 in the usual place, and mysql4.1 in /opt?
[05:17] <zire72> what is the easiest way to set up a ps/2 optical mouse in ubuntu
[05:18] <DBO> sskennel, yeah, thats the idea
[05:18] <sskennel> DBO, thanks, I'll explore that.
[05:18] <nanomad> GTX, to revert to default state: chmod 775 /home
[05:18] <nanomad> as root
[05:19] <GTX> done nono2
[05:19] <GTX> nanomad, *
[05:19] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:19] <nanomad> GTX,  can user login now?
[05:19] <GTX> yup
[05:20] <zire72> i'm having major mouse troubles
[05:20] <tof> anyone know about a comparison between kexi and ooffice database (and ms access ;-) ?
[05:20] <inono> I can't watch an AVI file, how do I check which codec I need
[05:20] <myworld122> hey guys...is it necessary to have antivirus n firewall if i'm running Windows XP in VMware Server?
[05:20] <mwe> get a cat
[05:20] <inono> myworld122, not if you're running iptables like u should
[05:20] <ProN00b> whats that gnome configuration editor called ?
[05:20] <xorph> gconf i think
[05:21] <myworld122> inono: what's iptables?
[05:21] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have WORKING external dvdwriter on usb or firewire?
[05:21] <zire72> can someone answer my question?!
[05:22] <mwe> I did. buy a cat
[05:22] <guem> hey there
[05:22] <krazykit> zire72: plug it in, turn on the computer, afaik.
[05:22] <guem> is there a package for "lcftpget" ?
[05:22] <tof> MetaMorfoziS, I do. usb dvdwriter. Works fine with ubuntu and kubuntu out of the box
[05:22] <guem> cpan requires this... but i can only find "ncftp" and "ncftp2"
[05:23] <zire72> krazykit: it works up until it says when scrolling through  kernel: starting hotplug system
[05:23] <zire72> then the lights turn off on the mouse
[05:24] <mwe> zire72: hotplug? this is not dapper, is it?
[05:24] <zire72> mwe: it's 5.04
[05:24] <m_0_r_0_n> Any idea how to get a dvb-t card work?
[05:24] <zire72> i really need to upgrade, but i dont have fast enough internet
[05:25] <mwe> zire72: hotplug is replaced in the latest version. it has caused problems for a lot of people
[05:25] <zire72> argh, okay, so that might solve myproblem if i just upgrade?
[05:25] <sskennel> DBO, I don't suppose installing mysql5 into /opt would satisfy the dependencies?
[05:25] <xorph> zire72, order a dvd
[05:25] <mwe> zire72: maybe so
[05:25] <DBO> sskennel, nope
[05:26] <mwe> zire72: what exactly happens when hotplug starts?
[05:26] <guem> m_0_r_0_n: i use a dvb-s pci-card with kaffeine.. works fine (just had to modprobe _googled_module_name_for_my_card_)
[05:26] <zire72> xorph: i have, it's just taking ages to get here
[05:26] <sskennel> I figured. Thanks.
[05:26] <nanomad> whois gtx
[05:26] <xorph> hmmm
[05:26] <xorph> you can go to an internetcafe too.
[05:27] <MetaMorfoziS> tof:  what version you have?
[05:27] <m_0_r_0_n> guem, I already have a dvb-t card, hm, ok, I will search for a module
[05:27] <Tenkawa> Any of you running a WPA2 connection in ubuntu?
[05:27] <zire72> mwe: before hotplug starts, the mouse's laser and functioning seems to be working, but when it loads the hotplug thing, it quits
[05:27] <ProN00b> whats that gnome configuration editor called ?
[05:27] <Toge> hello
[05:27] <DBO> gconf-editor
[05:27] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the device name and who is the manufacturer?
[05:27] <mwe> zire72: I'd check the log files. /var/log/syslog and dmesg
[05:27] <danfg> i wish gnome would allow me to have 2 or more rows in a panel :(
[05:28] <DBO> ProN00b,  gconf-editor
[05:28] <ProN00b> thanks, DBO
[05:28] <Toge> when will i be to able to download the new kernel from repositories?
[05:28] <DBO> Toge, what new kernel do you want?
[05:28] <yurtboy>  is there anyway to limit choices when a person logs off to just shutdown instead of hibernate etc
[05:28] <mwe> Toge: you wont
[05:29] <Toge> 2.6.17 , no?
[05:29] <DBO> Toge, nope, that wont make it to repos
[05:29] <Toge> how can I know what version I have?
[05:29] <DBO> Toge, we are in feature freeze
[05:29] <mwe> Toge: the kernel stays at the version it was when dapper was released except for security updates
[05:29] <DBO> Toge, to check what version you have do uname -r in console
[05:29] <mwe> Toge: uname -r. Why do you need 2.6.17?
[05:30] <jim_r> hi does anybody know how i can stop rhythmbox from loading every time i plug my ipod in?
[05:30] <Toge> mwe,  i dont know
[05:31] <mwe> Toge: then you don't need it
[05:31] <Toge> i thought i could get it from repositories
[05:31] <mwe> Toge: you can't and you don't need the 2.6.17 kernel
[05:31] <DBO> Toge, you can get it for the testing version of ubuntu, but that isnt stable yet and you shouldnt use it
[05:31] <rendo> Does ATA-133 use the IDE interface or a different cable?
[05:32] <zire72> mwe: i'm trying to input the code " /var/log/syslog" into root
[05:32] <zire72> how would i do so?
[05:32] <DBO> renatofilho, IDE
[05:32] <bbrazil> rendo: ide
[05:32] <rendo> I thought so, was just making sure, thanks.
[05:32] <bbrazil> rendo: you'll want an 80 pin cable though iirc
[05:32] <mwe> zire72: you need to look at the file. nano /var/log/syslog
[05:32] <DBO> bbrazil, yeah, 80 pin
[05:32] <mwe> zire72: look for errors at time stamps near last  boot
[05:33] <inono> Is there a program which will tell me which directory on a disk is taking up the most space?
[05:33] <mwe> inono: sudo du /|sort
[05:33] <ProN00b> how can i check if the windows key works (as the super key) and that i don't have selected a wrong keyboard layout ?
[05:34] <DBO> inono, for the most part, its going to be your home directory.  Anything else should be pretty much managed by the system and left alone by you
[05:34] <jim_r> ProN00b, set up the super key as a shortcut to launch a terminal or something
[05:34] <DBO> ProN00b, type Xev in terminal and place your mouse in the box
[05:34] <mwe> inono: or sudo du /|sort -n rather
[05:35] <inono> mwe, thanks, couldnt remember the name
[05:35] <DBO> ProN00b, then see if you get thr righ toutput when pushing the super key
[05:35] <mwe> inono: the command may take some time to complete
[05:36] <ProN00b> DBO, how can i see if its the right output ?
[05:36] <DBO> it should say Super_L somewhere
[05:36] <ProN00b> i mean i get a keypress/release event
[05:37] <ProN00b> nope, no Super in there
[05:37] <zire72> mwe: i really dont know what has occurred, i had an old wheel ps/2 mouse that randomly quit working on me yesterday. it worked for years but now i'm thinking i need to upgrade to maybe a usb optical mouse, any suggestions on ones that are well supported?
[05:38] <inono> mwe, thats fine I did max-depth=1
[05:38] <DBO> ProN00b, hmmm, sounds like your keyboard map might be off
[05:38] <mwe> zire72: well I thought the old ps/2 mice were well supported. AFAIK most usb mice are as well
[05:38] <DBO> zire72, the logitech mice are FANTASTIC
[05:38] <zire72> mwe: i just tried a logitech optical usb mouse and it works fine
[05:39] <zire72> i will have to buy one soon, as i'm borrowing my brothers
[05:39] <zire72> haha
[05:39] <mwe> inono: well it wont show it recursively then
[05:39] <Nukeador> how could i know which packets an auto-update install? i want to remove them and install again the oficial ones...
[05:39] <zire72> thanks everyone
[05:39] <mwe> zire72: good then
[05:39] <DBO> Nukeador, you mean you installed some updates from third party repositories?
[05:40] <Nukeador> yep
[05:40] <DBO> Nukeador, remove the repos from your sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:40] <DBO> (i think that works...)
[05:40] <Nukeador> ok
[05:40] <inono> mwe, sure it does
[05:41] <variant> what happend to the the gnome-network-preferences
[05:41] <Nukeador> let me check it...
[05:41] <variant> how can i list wireless networks with gnome now
[05:41] <variant> ?
[05:41] <killaz> how can I view .wmv and .avi files?
[05:41] <DBO> !restricted
[05:41] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[05:41] <variant> killaz: install the restricted codecs package
[05:41] <killaz> I already added the windows codecs
[05:42] <killaz> variant: which one?
[05:42] <variant> killaz: read that link
[05:42] <DBO> killaz, are you sure the wmv movies are not DRM'd?
[05:42] <variant> killaz: yeah, porn encrypted with drm wont play on anything except windows
[05:42] <killaz> DBO: nope I could watch them without any problem on my win box
[05:42] <variant> killaz: yeah, thats the point
[05:43] <Kibou> hehe
[05:43] <killaz> variant: and how can I check if that is te case?
[05:43] <variant> killaz: do you get a funny looking screen when you play them?
[05:43] <epssy> vendor lockin
[05:43] <variant> or does it just say "cannot play this file"?
[05:43] <mwe> inono: It wont show the sizes of directories inside other directories is what I mean
[05:43] <killaz> nope.... with wmv I get an error pop-up.. and with the avi I get a black screen..
[05:43] <mwe> inono: but i don't think you want that anyway
[05:43] <variant> killaz: then you need to read that link and folow the instructions
[05:44] <killaz> with sounds...
[05:44] <inono> no i just want top level and i can navigate manually into the other ones
[05:44] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[05:44] <linuxboyfriend> when my system starts it gives error: access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint@localhost, can anyone help me about that?
[05:44] <killaz> variant: uhm I already downloaded and installed the windows codec if that is what you mean
[05:44] <mwe> inono: so it will probably show /home or /usr taking most space
[05:45] <mwe> inono: besides / of course :)
[05:45] <variant> killaz: what i mean is, did you folllow those instructions
[05:45] <variant> killaz: not just manualy put the codecs on the filesystem.
[05:45] <variant> killaz: that link tells you how to do it
[05:46] <variant> killaz: please just read it
[05:46] <Lukkett0> anybody use Eciadsl ?
[05:46] <variant> and if it continues to not work after having followd those instructions come back
[05:46] <killaz> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[05:46] <killaz> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386
[05:46] <killaz> that is what I did...
[05:46] <Lukkett0> killaz: I did the same
[05:46] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that mysql error
[05:46] <variant> so, you didnt follow the instructions
[05:47] <ProN00b> DBO, i somehow can't get my keyboard model/layout right, is there any tool that asks me to push some keys and then detects it automatically ?
[05:47] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: how did you install mysql?
[05:47] <kmilo> linuxboy, check the permissions for the debian-sys-maint user
[05:47] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, yeah and they were telling me to go here :(
[05:48] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: did you alter the perms
[05:48] <DBO> ProN00b, what keyboard do you have?
[05:48] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, i delete that user (sorry)
[05:48] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: you should leave the debian system account
[05:48] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: reintall
[05:48] <mwe> reinstall*
[05:48] <ProN00b> DBO, i dont have the slightest idea, but that its german
[05:49] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, ok, and what password i should set for that user?
[05:49] <nickolay> Hi, what is the best way to reroute system beep to the soundcard in dapper?
[05:49] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server && sudo apt-get instal mysql-server
[05:49] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: don't worry about it
[05:50] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: *never* touch that account
[05:50] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: see README.Debain for details
[05:50] <DBO> ProN00b, run this command, xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.de
[05:50] <filleokus> Hi any ProFTPD pro's here?
[05:51] <DBO> filleokus, what is your issue? =)
[05:51] <DBO> if you ask first you might find someone might know
[05:51] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, ok, i have reinstalled mysql-server, does n't that affect my lamp installation?
[05:51] <filleokus> I cant connect to it at all, and i have followed the setps at ubuntuguide.org
[05:51] <mwe> filleokus: define pros :)
[05:52] <ProN00b> DBO, now it shows Select as keyname
[05:52] <filleokus> :D
[05:52] <Gullstad> How send a message trough SSH, and make it popup on the SSH computer I have connected too?
[05:52] <filleokus> i just get connection refused
[05:52] <killaz> variant: so you're telling e I need to install all those packages totem-xine gxine libxine-extracodecs mplayer
[05:52] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: I think not unless you added something you need to add again
[05:52] <DBO> filleokus, lemme see your /etc/proftpd.conf in pastebin please
[05:52] <Megant> Gullstad: Popup?
[05:52] <Fracture> each time a kernel update happens, I need to manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to it.. this used to happen automatically.. how can I re-enable this ?
[05:52] <filleokus> and i have /etc/init.d/proftpd restart and it is online
[05:52] <Megant> Gullstad: You mean on X or?
[05:52] <filleokus> DBO, yes brb
[05:52] <killaz> BUT libxine-extracodecs I cant find
[05:52] <Gullstad> Megant: Yes, as a windows in X.
[05:53] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: did you purge remove it first like I suggested?
[05:53] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, yes
[05:53] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: good now see if it works, it should.
[05:53] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, what is purge for?
[05:54] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: it removes every trace of the package including config files and the database
[05:54] <killaz> and neither mplayer
[05:54] <Megant> Gullstad: Well, for an example: if the x display where you want to open the program is on display :0.1 you just have to export DISPLAY=":0.1"
[05:54] <filleokus> DBO, http://pastebin.com/716637
[05:54] <[Ex0r] > Does anybody here know if there is a way to dock windows at the edge of the screen? (Gaim for example)
[05:54] <Megant> Gullstad: So I mean a program, not a popup.
[05:54] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: did you follow the LAMP wiki?
[05:54] <Bakemono> hell
[05:55] <Bakemono> bah
[05:55] <Bakemono> hello
[05:55] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, yes
[05:55] <variant> ^C
[05:55] <killaz> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs -> null
[05:55] <ompaul> Bakemono, words often mixed up ;-)
[05:55] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, during the removal it was asking me to remove the database and i said NO
[05:55] <killaz> Synaptic search also ..... null
[05:55] <DBO> filleokus, change the server type to standalone and let make sure your username is not in the file /etc/ftpusers
[05:55] <Bakemono> yup, i'm just llame
[05:55] <killaz> and multiuniverse is enabled
[05:55] <andre> I can't get apache to run... When I etc/init.d/apache2 start it doesn't give any error message, but ther is no apache process running. theres also nothing in the apche logs.
[05:55] <popey> where does libavcodec reside these days?
[05:56] <popey> I can't install xvidcap without it on dapper
[05:56] <[Ex0r] > !lamp
[05:56] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: you should have said yes. then run the install script for the database again
[05:56] <ProN00b> DBO, got any more ideas ?
[05:56] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: first answer yes. then reinstall. then cd /usr && sudo ./bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql
[05:57] <DBO> ProN00b, not really, make sure everything looks ok in System -> preferences -> keyboard
[05:57] <linuxboyfriend> i will check and if it works then i will leave it, otherwise i will backup my database and remove it again with purge option
[05:57] <ProN00b> DBO, i did, everything works, but those windows key
[05:57] <Bck14> how do you add mp3 support for ubuntu ?
[05:57] <nanomad> !mp3
[05:57] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:57] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: it wont work with the same database I think
[05:57] <DBO> ProN00b, sorry =/
[05:58] <[Ex0r] > Anyone here know if gaim can be docked on the side of the screen ?
[05:58] <Bck14> ty nanomad
[05:58] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: since you deleted the debian sys account
[05:58] <filleokus> DBO, standalone work fine
[05:58] <mwe> linuxboyfriend: but go ahead and try
[05:58] <filleokus> but if i close the terminal does it close also?
[05:58] <filleokus> or is it deamon like
[05:58] <filleokus> ?
[05:58] <Gullstad> How do you open a program in SSH? So It shows on the klients X.
[05:58] <DBO> its a deamon filleokus
[05:58] <filleokus> Ah u da man :P
[05:58] <elec> has someone tested ubuntu server? is it good?
[05:59] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, ok
[05:59] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, gimme   1 min :)
[05:59] <DBO> elec, it works, its a bit more dynamic than some admins like, but its a good solid server with plenty of support
[05:59] <elec> DBO, thanks for your comment
[06:00] <Fracture> each time a kernel update happens, I need to manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to point to it.. this used to happen automatically.. how can I re-enable this ?
[06:00] <lepingbeta> Hello!Is that anyone use reactOS?
[06:00] <ProN00b> DBO, if u use english us layout all other keys dont work, but the windows key shows as superL
[06:00] <DBO> ProN00b, how amazingly unhandy... =P
[06:00] <killaz> I should install libxine-codecs but where are they ... I have enabled all repositories
[06:00] <xorph> lepingbeta, i wouldn't do that
[06:01] <ompaul> lepingbeta, this is the ubuntu support channel, you may have mistaken us for the #reactos channel ;-)
[06:01] <DBO> smacky_wolf, away messages are not allowed
[06:01] <elknof3> hey hi everyody, does anybody have a clue about a wine issue while playing splinter cell?? it  gives me a error about a "depurador"
[06:01] <ompaul> smacky_wolf, did you see what DBO is saying? he is right you know
[06:02] <DBO> elknof3, have you checked in appdb to see if its supported?
[06:02] <DBO> wine doesnt quite run everything
[06:02] <ompaul> smacky_wolf, use /away Message - it does not spam the channel
[06:02] <killaz> bah I should take a break cause this is not going everywhere.....!!!!!
[06:02] <mwe> in fact wine doesn't work with most programs
[06:02] <CryoTox> I hate wine
[06:03] <DBO> CryoTox, I donno, it goes so well with italian
[06:03] <CryoTox> I thought it was good when reading the description but no, it was like cursed, only works with useless things.
[06:03] <killaz> well.... linux/ubuntu is not ready yet for desktop environment.....
[06:03] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, ok, i have reinstalled not i am going to load my database again (from text file)
[06:03] <linuxboyfriend> mwe, am i right ?
[06:03] <CryoTox> DBO: So true.
[06:03] <CryoTox> killaz: Ubuntu rocks.
[06:04] <jabr_> anyone have patience for a couple of noob questions?
[06:04] <CryoTox> Sure.
[06:04] <nanomad> jabr_, say everything
[06:04] <jabr_> 1) when you download apps...where do you usually install them?  /usr/local/sbin?
[06:04] <ompaul> jabr_, ask the question to the Channel not one person and see what happesn
[06:05] <ompaul> jabr_, depends on the app if you type "which app_name" it can tell you where it ended up
[06:05] <jabr_> sure, but when you are downloading stuff is that normally the place to put things when you have a choice of install location?
[06:05] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[06:05] <nanomad> jabr_, usually in /usr/local/bin after a compile or if it wasy a binary (like most non-free games)
[06:06] <jabr_> ok
[06:06] <nanomad> jabr_, /usr/local is a good choiche
[06:06] <jabr_> diff between /usr/local/sbin and bin
[06:06] <jabr_> err what is the diff?
[06:06] <nanomad> jabr_, sbin=soft runned by root, bin by users (i think)
[06:06] <abhijeet> I have installed kde-desktop to my ubuntu 6.06. but now I now I am not able to activate gdm. pls help to activate gdm without removing kde
[06:07] <Pelo> I'm using a non standard mouse ( ie logitech trackman marble FX ) it's got 4 buttons,  how do I switch button assignment in dapper ?
[06:07] <ompaul> !mouse
[06:07] <ubotu> Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor.
[06:07] <Pelo> thanks
[06:07] <ompaul> Pelo,  enjoy
[06:08] <jabr_> so next question.  i have some development files i need to use locally.  so what's the best strategy for mounting them from the home dir of another machine?  i was thinking of just creating a script that mounts server:/home to /mnt/servername/home   is there a better way to do this (it's nfs)
[06:08] <nanomad> jabr_, no..it is good
[06:08] <abhijeet> I have installed kde-desktop to my ubuntu 6.06. but now I now I am not able to activate gdm. pls help to activate gdm without removing kde
[06:08] <jabr_> to get it to automount at boot do i just create a script or put them in ftab?
[06:09] <nanomad> abhijeet, give me a sec. and i will give you the solution...
[06:09] <abhijeet> nanomad: thanks
[06:09] <killaz[away] > CryoTox: ubuntu rocks when it starts to play avi/wmv and all the main files....... installing a codec is harder then anything I've seen so far.  A simple search for libxine-extracodecs mplayer makes me search the whole internet...
[06:09] <killaz[away] > and without any luck....
[06:09] <ompaul> abhijeet, you can get kde with nice packages >>apt-get install kubuntu-desktop <<then>>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm <<
[06:10] <nanomad> jabr_, use fstab this way <server>:</path/of/dir> </local/mnt/point> nfs <options> 0 0
[06:10] <Frogzoo> aarghh... anyone get bugzilla setup properly?
[06:10] <CryoTox> killaz[away] : I'm pretty sure you can just apt-get some codec packs.
[06:10] <jajaja-> how can I change the priveldges for "file system" directory so I can edit files in there
[06:11] <jabr_> thanks nanomad  under mnt do i have to create the subdirs manually?  meaning server:exportdir /mnt/servername/exportdir
[06:11] <nanomad> yes
[06:11] <Unintentional> hey, does anyone know if there's a graphical equivalent of rsh/ssh?  I basically want to log into a gnome environment remotely
[06:11] <killaz[away] > well CryoTox sudo apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs or sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs gives null hits and YES I have enabled all repositories
[06:11] <jabr_> alrighty...many thanx nano
[06:11] <jabr_> saved me a lot of time
[06:11] <abhijeet> thanks ompaul
[06:12] <ompaul> jajaja-, you don;t want to randomly do that with system files you will break the operating system, the command to change ownership is "chown" and to change executable and stuff "chmod"
[06:12] <Unintentional> no idea?
[06:12] <Bck14> !xine
[06:12] <ubotu> Bck14: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:12] <Bakemono> Unintentional, i think you are looking something like VNC
[06:12] <jajaja-> thank you ompaul let me give that a try
[06:12] <Unintentional> problem with VNC is that it requires the person be logged in already
[06:12] <Bck14> hmm, how do you install win32codecs for ubuntu ?
[06:12] <Bck14> ?
[06:13] <Pelo> automatix I think
[06:13] <ompaul> Unintentional, you presume too much answers take longer in irc - and if vnx or freenx perhaps ssh exporting X or putty
[06:13] <nanomad> abhijeet, do u want to use gdm instead of kdm?
[06:13] <varsendaggr> Bck14, apt-cache search win32codecs
[06:13] <Bck14> ok i shall try
[06:13] <varsendaggr> you may need your repos enabled
[06:13] <ompaul> Bck14, yo9u can use easyubuntu or read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted formats
[06:13] <Bck14> i have enable some
[06:14] <Bck14> ompaul: read that the .deb file is unreachable
[06:14] <ompaul> !repos
[06:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[06:14] <ericz> varsendaggr: isn't it w32codecs, not win32?
[06:14] <jsestri2> My DNS servers I get from DHCP, don't all work very fast, and the way Ubuntu seem to read them in, places in them in the order slowest first. Is there a way to make it use them in the order fastest first?
[06:14] <Unintentional> thanks.  I'll look at those.
[06:14] <ompaul> Bck14, follow that information from ubotu
[06:14] <Lens> everytime I start firestarter it needs a root pass, but I want it to start in accounts with no root access, how do I disable the root pass prompt?
[06:14] <Bck14> ive got universe and multiverse
[06:15] <GTX> How do I make it so users cannot see whos in /home/ and other user directorys
[06:15] <nanomad> abhijeet, edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager as root and change the line you got with /usr/sbin/gdm
[06:15] <varsendaggr> ericz, i thinkso
[06:15] <nanomad> GTX, i've the solution
[06:15] <nanomad> GTX, chmod 711 /home
[06:15] <GTX> ta
[06:15] <abhijeet> nanomad: I am using kdm in mandriva so want to test gdm in ubuntu.
[06:15] <varsendaggr> Bck14,  do apt-cache search codecs   if you can't find it
[06:15] <killaz[away] > Bck14: welcome to the same problem!!! :D
[06:16] <Bck14> lol
[06:16] <Bck14> var
[06:16] <Bck14> apt-cache does nothing
[06:16] <varsendaggr> and killaz[away]  what are you looking for?
[06:16] <Bck14> dont think apt is installed
[06:16] <nanomad> GTX, u disconnected just b4 i found the solution
[06:16] <GTX> but if you know the other peoples username they can still do cd /home/USERNAME/ and list it
[06:16] <nanomad> abhijeet, edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager as root and change the line you got with /usr/sbin/gdm
[06:16] <varsendaggr> Bck14, yes apt- is installed
[06:16] <abhijeet> nanomad: i use kde in mandriva and to test gdm in ubuntu
[06:16] <fa_> I have installed update-manager 0.37 on breezy. From my ohter breezy system i know there is a more recent version. Why doesnt it update when i do an update with apt?
[06:16] <Bck14> ok
[06:16] <Bck14> didnt do anything
[06:16] <Bck14> just new line in terminal
[06:16] <killaz[away] > varsendaggr:  libxine-extracodecs
[06:16] <varsendaggr> do apt-cache search gnome
[06:17] <Bck14> ok
[06:17] <GTX> nanomad,  but if you know the other peoples username they can still do cd /home/USERNAME/ and list it
[06:17] <Bck14> lol that worked :P
[06:17] <nanomad> GTX, you must chmod user dirs too
[06:17] <nanomad> abhijeet, do u want to use kde or gdm?
[06:17] <GTX> no nanomad, There is a way to which you chmod home directory and it stops people from entering there driectorys to.
[06:17] <Bck14> mingw32 - Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) compiler
[06:17] <Bck14> mingw32-binutils - Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) binutils
[06:17] <Bck14> mingw32-runtime - Minimalist GNU win32 (cross) runtime
[06:18] <varsendaggr> ok
[06:18] <Bck14> are all that come up for w32
[06:18] <varsendaggr> how about apt-cache serch codecs
[06:18] <javatard_> ! ppc
[06:18] <Bck14> trying that
[06:18] <ubotu> hmm... ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers.  Supported by Ubuntu PPC.
[06:18] <varsendaggr> because i just got w23codecs
[06:18] <jsestri2> anybody got any ideas on why the networking tool places the DNS servers from the DHCP in the list with slowest at the top?
[06:18] <varsendaggr> w32
[06:18] <Kaja> Read the wiki ffs.
[06:19] <Lens> I would like firestarter to start on my 'desktop permissions' account, but it prompts for a root pass, how can I disable the pass prompt so my firewall will just run?
[06:19] <Kaja> Bck14, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:19] <Bck14> Kaja:
[06:19] <Bck14> wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[06:19] <jsestri2> Lens: what is firestarter?
[06:19] <Bck14> that doesnt work
[06:19] <Bck14> times out
[06:19] <Lens> a firewall
[06:19] <nanomad> GTX, chmod 711 /home and chmod 700 /home/$USER
[06:19] <Kaja> Bck14, then try again later =(
[06:20] <jsestri2> Lens: well that might have parts of it that requires root access to use...
[06:20] <GTX> nanomad, There is a way to which you can just chmod /home
[06:20] <GTX> and it will do it
[06:20] <Bck14> u cant build w32codecs from source can you ?
[06:20] <jsestri2> Lens: plan B is to chmod the binary
[06:20] <varsendaggr> Bck14, they have them at mplayer
[06:20] <Kaja> Bck14, it works here.
[06:20] <javatard_> A power PC index anyone?
[06:20] <Bck14> hmm
[06:20] <Bck14> ill try wget again
[06:20] <nanomad> GTX, chmod -R 711 /home
[06:20] <garryfre> I have both kde and gnome on this dapper system, and dicovered that the kbuntu kde has the power saving features, many seem to be finding lacking in the default gnome ubuntu interface.
[06:21] <Lens> jsestri2, so I mean, it wouldn't be as simple as changing permissions or anything?
[06:21] <Lens> can you change permissions for individual programs?
[06:21] <jsestri2> Lens: It could....Have you tried that?
[06:21] <lastnode> a good desktop publishing program, anyone?
[06:21] <Lens> I don't know how?
[06:21] <jajaja-> how can I edit a txt string in the filesystem? im not sure how to use the chown command
[06:21] <jsestri2> Lens: (chmod the binary = change the permissions)
[06:21] <varsendaggr> killaz[away] , just use mplayer
[06:21] <Matic`Makovec> if you want to edit you must give write permissions
[06:22] <lastnode> jajaja-, chown is used to set ownership
[06:22] <nanomad> lastnode, scribus
[06:22] <jsestri2> Lens: ok, goto Applications->Alacarte menu ediotr
[06:22] <lastnode> nanomad, oh yeah, thanks
[06:22] <jsestri2> Lens: find firestarter in the list there, right click on it and select properties
[06:22] <nanomad> lastnode, no
[06:22] <nanomad> lastnode, *np
[06:22] <lastnode> :)
[06:22] <jajaja-> so how can I edit this file since when opened it is read only
[06:22] <lastnode> jajaja-, sudo chown user file.ext
[06:22] <Tenkawa> Any of you using wpa_supplicant?
[06:22] <lastnode> then edit it
[06:23] <jajaja-> ok thanks lastnode let me give it a try
[06:23] <lastnode> np jajaja-
[06:23] <lastnode> anytime :)
[06:23] <Lens> jsestri2, I will write all this down, I can't do it all now, because I'm in limited permissions acct.
[06:23] <garryfre> FYI, I did ask if that was wise to install both here, before I went and did it. Strangely many things for kde show and appear to run under gnome, kmahjongg and gnome's mahjongg both shuw up and run for instance. Strange, I would consider it unlikely that so many apps for KDE run under gnome.
[06:23] <jsestri2> Lens: you can access that without permissions
[06:23] <nanomad> jajaja-, if it is a configuration file under /etc, use gtksudo gedit /path/to/file
[06:24] <Lens> jsestri2, ok I'm in alacarte, 1 sec.
[06:24] <pequatre> hello. can anyone help me with this very very simple bash script that doesn't work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15909  ?
[06:24] <nanomad> garryfre, it is normal..they are compiled to run on linux
[06:24] <nanomad> garryfre, a very few apps will not run
[06:24] <Lens> jsestri2, I'm in properties
[06:25] <jsestri2> Lens: in the properties window there will be 3 lines, the last of which is the command that starts the app, you'll need it.... You then need to pop up a terminal window,
[06:25] <lastnode> pequatre, looking
[06:25] <Lens> jsestri2, popped up
[06:25] <pequatre> lastnode, thx.
[06:25] <Bassetts> how can i get guifications to install with gaim 2beta3
[06:26] <jsestri2> Lens: once in the terminal window, we need to use locate, if you haven't used it before, type "sudo locate -u"
[06:26] <ompaul> jajaja-, and change its ownership at your peril
[06:26] <garryfre> say nanomad Tnx.
[06:26] <protocol2> is there a reason why my cpu says its 100% in use and nothings running
[06:26] <protocol2> ?
[06:26] <lastnode> pequatre, print out $var
[06:26] <lastnode> in the loop
[06:26] <jsestri2> Lens: then after that completes, "locate THE_COMMAND_FROM_PROPERTIES"
[06:27] <pequatre> lastnode, i thought this was a local variable but i'll try.
[06:27] <garryfre> I note the script, there is no loop or wend statement.
[06:27] <Lens> jsestri2 k 1 sec
[06:27] <tibs> hi
[06:27] <lastnode> pequatre, exactly, print it out, see if it populates
[06:27] <jsestri2> Lens: "sudo locate -u" can take a little while to complete"
[06:27] <lastnode> just before return $var
[06:27] <tibs> iv a pb to start application from command line
[06:27] <tibs> GTK+ failed to initialize. Is X running?
[06:28] <tibs> any help
[06:28] <pequatre> lastnode, it does
[06:28] <pequatre> lastnode, 0 as expected
[06:28] <digivore> hi
[06:28] <lastnode> pequatre, ok, where does it break then?
[06:28] <Tenkawa> this is really annoying
[06:29] <tibs> error "GTK+ failed to initialize. Is X running?"
[06:29] <tibs> any one can help?
[06:29] <Dreamglider> how do i use keyword in xchat ?
[06:29] <airboy> hi
[06:29] <pequatre> lastnode, well, you can try it, but i think it doesn't see test_connexion as a value
[06:29] <new> hi
[06:30] <airboy> is there a way i can install using apt-get install apache2 its installing but its not installing the /etc/apache2 i mean pre-config files?
[06:30] <airboy> is there a way to fix this?
[06:30] <new> looking for someone to help me with xml parsing error
[06:30] <airboy> i mean apt-ger reinstall with confing files
[06:30] <airboy> ?
[06:30] <garryfre> nanomad Funny thing is way back when I first did that with Breezy, I mentioned here that many kde apps run under Gnome too, and I got yelled at by a lot of people claiming I was hallucinating and should not post lies.
[06:30] <lastnode> pequatre, #bash if your friend btw, i go there for all my problems :)
[06:30] <pequatre> lastnode, functions are  not behaving like in C for instance
[06:30] <Dreamglider> i have tried /join #dkscan 1448 but Cannot join #dkscan (Requires keyword).
[06:30] <nanomad> garryfre, lol
[06:31] <Lens> jsestri2, when I type sudo locate -u, nothing happens, it just looks like it executes.
[06:31] <pequatre> lastnode, i did go thete but they don't explain how to evaluate function in a "while"
[06:31] <Lens> jsestri2, is that right?
[06:31] <lastnode> pequatre, i dont usually use while
[06:31] <new> can someone tell how i can download files form the internet without xml parsing error:not well formed
[06:31] <lastnode> pequatre, why not just an if
[06:31] <lastnode> there is no reason to have a while loop there
[06:31] <lastnode> if makes more sense
[06:31] <chaitu> can someone help me how to install new fonts ?
[06:32] <pequatre> lastnode, yes there is, it should ping as long as the exit status is not 0
[06:32] <lastnode> oh right
[06:32] <new> anyone?
[06:32] <pequatre> while(i'm not connected) try again
[06:32] <garryfre> !fonts
[06:32] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[06:33] <Frogzoo> does mysql5 have  problems atm?
[06:33] <pequatre> lastnode, i probably could do it another way but it seemed the simplest to me.
[06:33] <airboy> anyobody?
[06:34] <Lens> jsestri2, still there?
[06:34] <ompaul> Frogzoo, define problem
[06:34] <MetaMorfoziS> 880body waits for your q:)
[06:34] <MetaMorfoziS> just ask:)
[06:34] <lastnode> pequatre, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15913, try the diff?
[06:34] <nanomad> airboy, apt-get --purge remove soft and then re-install it
[06:34] <airboy> hmm ok thanks let me try
[06:34] <Frogzoo> ompaul: access to the user table hangs for me - I'm wondering if I've messed the tables, or there's a known problem
[06:35] <qatsi> hello all !
[06:35] <airboy> its say invaild opration?
[06:35] <Bassetts> how can i get guifications to install with gaim 2beta3
[06:35] <pequatre> lastnode, i'm afraid your script won't repeatydly ping.
[06:35] <skavenge> anyone know of a good partition resizing program for windows thats free? or is there one with the livecd that i can use to resize my ntfs partition?
[06:35] <MetaMorfoziS> airboy write down, what app, where, what wm, what version of ubuntu etc...
[06:35] <nanomad> airboy, sudo apt-get --purge remove
[06:35] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[06:35] <MetaMorfoziS> we aren't can read in your mind
[06:35] <pequatre> lastnode, since test_connexion is called only once.
[06:36] <lastnode> pequatre, oh sorry about that
[06:36] <ompaul> Frogzoo, there is nothing jumping out from the info I have on it
[06:36] <ompaul> Frogzoo, this is about the user table http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/security-guidelines.html
[06:36] <McScruff> lo all , i installed backtrack which has overwritten grub with lilo and i cant boot into ubuntu, what should my lili.conf look like for ubuntu
[06:36] <qatsi> im having some trubble with X server. When the computer starts, and X is starting automatically, it fails to load because it runs a script with some configuration that isnt quite well. So, i need to know if there is a default config file that is loaded above xorg.conf, so i can fix it. Any idea ?, thank you very much...
[06:36] <ompaul> !reinstall
[06:36] <ubotu> it has been said that reinstall is renew configuration: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $package <<followed by >> sudo apt-get install $package
[06:36] <airboy> nope i did sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[06:37] <skavenge> is gparted runable off the livecd? will it resize ntfs?
[06:37] <airboy> and then apt-get install apache2
[06:37] <airboy> its still not install /etc/apache2/* files?
[06:37] <ompaul> airboy, read what ubotu said
[06:38] <Lens> I'm trying to make it so that firestarter doesn't prompt me for a pass everytime it runs... I've gotten as far as "locate gksu firestarter"... I don't know what to do from there... I think I need to chmod it?
[06:38] <Dial_tone> what can I use to batch convert images files? I just want to shrink a bunch all at once.
[06:38] <|reezeh|> ttfn
[06:38] <airboy> ompaul i try what on site
[06:39] <Bassetts> ompaul: was that for me
[06:39] <airboy> but there is no way of reinstalling software with default confing files
[06:40] <qatsi> is there a default config file of xorg ?
[06:40] <omi>  Here's what I'm looking for. I have bridged xen server running VMs. I would like to use squid to cache downloads. if I use iptables -t nat PREROUTING....-j REDIRECT to proxyport, would that work with bridging?
[06:40] <Dial_tone> qatsi: no, everyone has a different setup
[06:40] <ompaul> Bassetts, no idea what your looking for
[06:40] <Bassetts> how can i get guifications to install with gaim 2beta3
[06:40] <Dial_tone> just run thru the xorg config thing
[06:40] <AngryElf> If I reboot while firefox is open the next time i start firefox I get a "firefox crashed error" -> Restore/Don't Restore......is there any way to disable this?
[06:41] <Frogzoo> ompaul: thx, I'll see what recreating the tables can manage
[06:41] <qatsi> Dial_tone: yes, but there are some settings that are default for everyone. I knoe that because i edited that file, but...hehe, i cant remember the location :p
[06:41] <filleokus> if the web root is empty i get a 403 you dont have premissions etc, but if i just create a file called index.html and like put asafada in it, it works, how do change that so you can see when a dir is empty?
[06:41] <ompaul> airboy that was a straight command >>> sudo dpkg -P --force-depends apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:41] <Dial_tone> angryElf, shut it down first and save that session
[06:42] <airboy> nope still say apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:42] <airboy> basily i delete this folder and now its not copying new files to this dir
[06:43] <airboy> also i am with root access
[06:43] <chaitu> can someone help me how to install new fonts ?
[06:43] <MetaMorfoziS> !fonts
[06:43] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[06:43] <MetaMorfoziS> or if you in kde, you easyli can do it from "kcontrol"
[06:44] <jsestri2> Lens:
[06:44] <jsestri2> Lens: hey sorry
[06:44] <Lens> yeah, hey
[06:44] <Lens> oh it's cool
[06:44] <jsestri2> Lens: how'd it go?
[06:45] <Lens> I think I got it...
[06:45] <Lens> but, I don't know what to do after locate gksu firestarter
[06:45] <casanova--> Hi guys; does wine run on ubuntu for amd_64 ?
[06:45] <jsestri2> Lens: ok, then you're going to have to runa  chmod
[06:45] <Lens> k
[06:45] <Tommy2k4> can flash not play sound in linux?
[06:46] <casanova--> Flash can play sound in linux
[06:46] <jsestri2> Lens: sudo chmod a+x YOURCOMPLETE_PATH_TO_FIRESTARTER
[06:46] <casanova--> Ok, i'll just crunch the configure, make, make install and see for myself =D
[06:46] <Twinxor> Flash has some unusual sound settings, so the default installation isn't sound-playing sometimes
[06:46] <abhijeet> in the boot menu there is no option for ubuntu. can you tell me how to add it in boot menu. I am using mandriva graphical boot menu. i have installed mandriva after ubuntu
[06:47] <Tommy2k4> it may just be the browser plugin
[06:47] <Tommy2k4> how can i get it to work?
[06:47] <Lens> jsestri2, k lemme try.
[06:47] <Twinxor> and even if you fix that, it still won't nicely mix with other sound streams..
[06:47] <jsestri2> Lens: I'm assuming its something like, /usr/bin/gksu-firestarter?
[06:47] <Bassetts> is there no way to get toaster popups in gaim2.0.0beta3??
[06:47] <Lens> shit, I dunno, I could find out, by scrolling up huh?
[06:47] <Twinxor> Tommy2k4, they have a lot of discussion about it on ubuntuforums.org
[06:47] <Tommy2k4> k
[06:48] <dpt> Hello everyone. I have problemns installing amarok. Can't find libxine-extracodecs package
[06:48] <AngryElf> xine dvd:/ opens up a DVD for me on /dev/hdc.......but i've got two drive, hdc and hdd, how do I open hdd with xine?
[06:48] <dpt> and all the packages endin in multiverse are not available, i've already set all the deb repositories un sources.list
[06:48] <dpt> still multiverse packages won't work. Any one can tell me why or how do i ghet this packages?
[06:48] <Lens> jsestri2, hows the easiest way to find the path?
[06:48] <Twinxor> did you click Reload in Synaptic, dpt?
[06:49] <jsestri2> Lens: with locate it should have given you a list of paths...
[06:49] <jsestri2> Lens: locate *gksu-firestarter
[06:49] <jsestri2> Lens: or locate *firestarter
[06:49] <Lens> jsestri2 ok
[06:50] <jsestri2> Lens: actually locate *WHATEVER_WAS_IN_PROPERTIES
[06:50] <jsestri2> Lens: and pick the one in /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin, something like that
[06:50] <elknof3> does anyone knows how to use csx
[06:51] <elknof3> pcsx
[06:51] <Lens> jsestri2 /usr/sbin/firestarter??
[06:52] <Bassetts> when compiling guifications from source i get "No package 'gaim' found" "Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment "
[06:52] <Bassetts> how do i tell it where gaim is?
[06:52] <jsestri2> Lens: ooo...no
[06:52] <Lens> lol, dangit, I cant find it.
[06:52] <jsestri2> Lens: that would be what starts the firewall...what is in the properties menu?
[06:53] <jabr_> so exportfs -v reports /home  192.168.*(rw,wdelay,insecure,no_root_squash)   --- on the other machine servername:/home    /mnt/servername/home   nfs  rw 0 0 <--- in fstab.   when i change rw to defaults in fstab it just hangs when i mount -a.  when i leave it at rw i get "permission denied".  the username/pass on both systems are identical.  suggestions?
[06:53] <Lens> gksu firestarter
[06:54] <Lens> jsestri2 under command is gksu firestarter.
[06:54] <Bassetts> when compiling guifications from source i get "No package 'gaim' found" "Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment "
[06:54] <jsestri2> Lens....reallly
[06:54] <Bassetts> how do i tell it where gaim is?
[06:54] <jsestri2> Lens: can you copy and paste the exact command in?
[06:55] <Lens> jsestri2 yeah, so is that what I chmod?
[06:55] <ProN00b> can i play video directly to the framebuffer, bypassing X ? (sucks playing through xgl on x)
[06:55] <andre> I'm trying to set up mod_ruby on apache2 and it seems to work fine except that it keps asking me to save the files instead of just showing them when I open a page in the browser.  but the file is parsed so the ruby side of it is  working.  i'm asuming I'm missing sxome  mime-type definition or something but I"m at a loss as to what I ned to do to fix it
[06:56] <jsestri2> Lens: you have to find what that command points to, and then change that binary's permissiosn with "sudo chmod a+x the_binary
[06:56] <freddyubuntu> does anybody know a Graph calculator in package manager ? ( I want to draw graphs like y=5x+3)
[06:57] <freddyubuntu> hello?
[06:57] <freddyubuntu> is there anybody in there?
[06:57] <kmilo> freddyubuntu, maxima
[06:57] <Stork> for fuck sake, dapper is a mess!!!!
[06:57] <made> hello all..
[06:57] <jsestri2> Stork: is dapper a mess, or are you a mess?
[06:57] <nanomad> Stork, why?
[06:57] <made> I have an xserver error..
[06:57] <kmilo> freddyubuntu, gnuplot
[06:58] <Lens> /usr/share/applications/firestarter/firestarter.desktop jsestri2?
[06:58] <freddyubuntu> kmiio , have u tried them urself?
[06:58] <Stork> the wiki says i can install sun java with synaptic.. but i can't
[06:58] <Stork> !java
[06:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[06:58] <jsestri2> made: from the command line: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg?
[06:58] <Stork> yeah, doesn't work
[06:58] <nanomad> enable multiverse repository
[06:58] <Stork> (i'm using ubuntu 64)
[06:58] <jsestri2> made: or it might be x-server
[06:58] <jabr_> mount -a  results in servo1:/etc failed, reason given by server: Permission denied   thoughts? :D
[06:58] <made> well I
[06:58] <Lens> /usr/share/applications/firestarter.desktop even... jsestri2
[06:58] <made> will pastebin my xorg log so you can see
[06:59] <JayR168> hello
[06:59] <jsestri2> Lens: ummm
[06:59] <Lens> jsestri2 usr/share/firestarter
[06:59] <Dial_tone> Stork: did you enable all the repos?
[06:59] <JayR168> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[06:59] <Dial_tone> I remember it didn't work for me until I did
[06:59] <jsestri2> Lens: /usr/share/firestarter looks better if it is an executeable
[06:59] <nanomad> Stork, it is in multiverse on amd64, just checked
[07:00] <Lens> jsestri2, lists no executable... try it?
[07:00] <freddyubuntu> which email program do you use ? do you use the ubuntu's default program ?
[07:00] <freddyubuntu> "Evolotion"
[07:00] <jsestri2> Lens, no, it has to be executable
[07:00] <Lens> jsestri2, lists no extension whatsoever I mean.
[07:00] <made> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15915
[07:00] <jsestri2> Lens: in linux there are no extensions, just permissions
[07:00] <jsestri2> Lens: well thats a lie, but there is no .exe
[07:01] <Stork> nanomad, sorry, you're right. *smacks head*. do you know if it contains jdk and jre?
[07:01] <switch_> hello
[07:01] <nanomad> Stork, yes, both
[07:01] <Lens> jsestri2, I'm aware there is no .exe, but I am definetly still learning the file sys ;)
[07:01] <jsestri2> made: I don't know that much about it, when do you have your xorg error?
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > Stork, you have to install jdk and jre
[07:01] <nanomad> Stork, sun-java5-jdk + sun-java5-jre are available
[07:02] <Lens> but /usr/share/firestarter with no extension is a dir jsestri2?
[07:02] <jsestri2> Lens: try locate *gksu (or whatever it was)
[07:02] <freddyubuntu> i want to install a good email program ... what do you suggest?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > nanomad, so is j2re and j2d
[07:02] <jsestri2> Lens: yeah odn't chmod it
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > j2dk*
[07:02] <made> I restored from my xorg backup.. I got the error after an nvidia glx update
[07:02] <freddyubuntu> is thunderbird better than evolotion ?
[07:02] <Rambo3> IS NETBEANS IN DK
[07:02] <Rambo3> caps sry
[07:02] <made> I
[07:02] <JayR168> anybody know how to disable the 'checking filesystem' at startup in ubuntu 6.06
[07:02] <JayR168> ?
[07:03] <made> 'I am also in the process of trying xgl
[07:03] <Lens> jsestri2... the file I'm looking for WILL have an extension?
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > Stork, give this a try sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 && apt-get install j2sdk1.4
[07:03] <nanomad> JayR168, yes
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > those are the two runtimes for sun java
[07:03] <nanomad> edit /etc/fstab
[07:03] <jsestri2> Lens: probably not, the file should be from the command in the properties menu....The menu is literally just a way to inject commands to a terminal
[07:04] <JayR168> nanomad, how do I do that?
[07:04] <Bck14> my wget wont work
[07:04] <NKR> i wonder if anyone could help me re: amarok?
[07:04] <Bck14> just seems to sto
[07:04] <Bck14> *stop
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > Bck14, try sudo wget
[07:04] <Bck14> ok
[07:04] <Stork> [Ex0r] , i don't want 1.4 :p
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > Stork, which one are you trying to get ?
[07:04] <freddyubuntu> I am compiling a program... I get this error
[07:04] <Lens> jsestri2: /usr/share/menu/firestarter?
[07:04] <jsestri2> Lens: if there is a space in the command, then that means you are passing arguments...example "gksu firestarter" means your file will be "gksu"
[07:04] <freddyubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[07:04] <freddyubuntu> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[07:04] <freddyubuntu> whats the problem
[07:04] <Rambo3> i am guessing 1.5
[07:04] <freddyubuntu> I tried to intall all Qt 4
[07:04] <Bck14> seems to be doing the same
[07:04] <freddyubuntu> it has no use
[07:05] <freddyubuntu> what should I install
[07:05] <jsestri2> Lens: now you're getting at the files that make up the menu...look for something /bin/yourfile
[07:05] <Nukeador> how can i delete a Key in gconf-editor?
[07:05] <boxemall> crimsun - hello! :-)
[07:05] <NKR> my problem is that all my mp3s/oggs/etc. are in my windows partition, and i can't get amarok (or quark, for that matter) to look outside the ubuntu partitions for media
[07:05] <nanomad> JayR168, gtksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:05] <boxemall> crimsun -  i still did not fix my sound problem in ubuntu.
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > um... there isn't a 1.5 in synaptic
[07:05] <nanomad> JayR168, whe gedit is open tell me so i can guide u
[07:05] <Rambo3> NKR you need to mount windows partiton properly
[07:05] <made> NKR: do you have you windows partitions mounted?
[07:05] <JayR168> nanomad, ok
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > Stork, you trying to get java5 ?
[07:06] <boxemall> crimsun - i installed ubuntu for a 1000 times now (i think). i think i should learn to make backups,...
[07:06] <nanomad> copy it in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:06] <freddyubuntu> ha ha nobody listens to me
[07:06] <NKR> well, they're visible in other media programs, e.g. quod libet, and from the desktop
[07:06] <nanomad> JayR168, and tell me the url
[07:06] <CpuinHell> hi...somebody speak spanish??
[07:07] <Lens> /usr/bin/gksu,  /usr/bin/gksuexec,  /usr/bin/gksudo  ,  jsestri2?
[07:07] <freddyubuntu> hola cpuinhell
[07:07] <freddyubuntu> cumo esta?
[07:07] <made> does anybody have a recommendation on how to fix my problem on x-server http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15915
[07:07] <CpuinHell> Hola freddy
[07:07] <nanomad> CpuinHell, join #ubuntu-es
[07:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> !es
[07:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:07] <CpuinHell> necesito ayuda con mi ubuntu....he empezado a usarlo hace muy poco
[07:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> :P
[07:08] <amarokker> Hi all, its been a while i've been trying to fix this network issue, whenever i describe the prob here, someone tells me to configure the router to allow serve files/pages over web and ftp
[07:08] <JayR168> nanomad, http://pastebin.com/716745
[07:08] <amarokker> Problem is, i am not behind a router
[07:08] <CpuinHell> join @ubuntu-es
[07:08] <Stork> [Ex0r] , yeah
[07:08] <freddyubuntu> i get this error while .configure
[07:08] <amarokker> All i know is that i have one physical NIC and another one created by an eagle-usb modem- configured by DHCP
[07:08] <freddyubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[07:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> amarokker: what isnt working?
[07:09] <nanomad> JayR168, look at the file...do you see the /dev/sda1 line?
[07:09] <[Ex0r] > Stork, I don't see java5 in there either anymore. They may have taken it out.
[07:09] <amarokker> aLPHa_LeaK: my ftp/http server-
[07:09] <miguelsr> some one know how upgrade my limewire to limewire pro?
[07:09] <nanomad> JayR168, change the last 1 with a 0
[07:09] <JayR168> nanomad, i see it
[07:09] <aLPHa_LeaK> miguelsr: use frostwire
[07:09] <nanomad> JayR168, change the last 1 with a 0
[07:09] <Lens> jsestri2: how bout I pastebin it real quick, this is takin a while!
[07:09] <Stork> [Ex0r] , sun-java5-bin :)
[07:09] <jabr_> nanomad: server1 exportfs -v ==> /etc 192.168.*(rw,wdelay,insecure,no_root_squash)
[07:09] <jabr_> client fstab ==> server1:/etc /mnt/server1/etc nfs rw 0 0
[07:09] <jabr_> username/pass identical on both machines
[07:09] <jabr_> when running mount -a (rather than rebooting) i get server:/etc failed, reason given by server: Permission denied...thoughts?
[07:09] <NKR> what I don't understand is how quod libet/rhythmbox can "see" my mp3s etc fine, but amarok and quark can't
[07:10] <nanomad> jabr_, dunno...i never used nfs
[07:10] <JayR168> nanomad, Done.. does it do the same to sda5,6,7?
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > Stork, search results don't come back with anything
[07:10] <nanomad> JayR168, yes
[07:10] <amarokker> I know there Is there a way to get access to the internet through the LAN- and the eth0 device using the adsl usb modem to get connected. Can someone please help me with this?
[07:10] <amarokker> 'bout a week since I've had this problem...or else, i'd appreciate if you can show me a  few /etc/network/interface files on the pastebin
[07:10] <made> amarokker: what is the name brand of you adsl modem?
[07:11] <miguelsr> aLPHa_LeaK   frostwire is better? how to download? sudo apt-get install frostwire
[07:11] <amarokker> its an aztech 208U- no problem with accessing the internet -
[07:11] <aLPHa_LeaK> miguelsr: www.frostwire.org
[07:11] <amarokker> just that I am not able to reach my ftp/web server from the WWW
[07:11] <JayR168> nanomad, cuz 'checking filesystem' says that I have mbr inconsistency from the back-up
[07:11] <gnomefreak> !frostwire
[07:11] <ubotu> somebody said frostwire was a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[07:12] <nanomad> JayR168, it is normal, it does it on all my pcs
[07:12] <JayR168> nanomad, is it safe to disable it?
[07:12] <made> amarokker: do you have the aztech plugged into your usb?
[07:12] <nanomad> JayR168, yes
[07:12] <JayR168> nanomad, thanks for the help then
[07:13] <Lens> jsestri2 - I've got a pastebin when u get back
[07:13] <made> amarokker: there might be other configuration on the modem itself..
[07:13] <alpa> can anyone help convert my repository to universal one!!! please!
[07:13] <Stork> how the hell do i update java from gij, to the sun java i just installed from apt-get ??
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > !universe
[07:14] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:14] <miguelsr> aLPHa_LeaK   frostwire is better than limewire?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > ubotu tell alpa about universe
[07:14] <void^> ubotu: tell Stork about java
[07:14] <made> I must go.. I will try to fix my own problems later.. have a nice day to all
[07:14] <Nukeador> how can i delete a tree in gconf-editor?
[07:14] <ompaul> Stork, your langauge is not what we want in this channel please tone it down a little - you need to add multiverse and then you can install it from Synaptic Package Manager
[07:14] <jsestri2> Lens: ok lets see it
[07:14] <alpa> ThankYou! :)
[07:14] <omodo> hi, I'm having some problem with an application. it reports: "libruby.so.1.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:15] <jsestri2> made: did you get figured out?
[07:15] <Lens> http://pastebin.com/716753
[07:15] <NKR> is anyone else running amarok with their music files in a windows partition?
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > made left :)
[07:15] <Lens> jsestri2 ^
[07:15] <omodo> but locate reports: /usr/lib/libruby1.8.so
[07:15] <Stork> sorry ompaul, and thanks void^
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > omodo, libruby.so.1.8 != libruby.1.8.so
[07:16] <jsestri2> Lens: can you pastebin: locate *gksu?
[07:16] <Lens> sure
[07:16] <gullstad_> My sound keep disepairing when I'm playing mp3's on xmms. Anyone know whats wrong?
[07:16] <casanova--> why do i keep getting "C compiler can't create executables" in Ubuntu?
[07:16] <NickGarvey> gullstad_: mp3s still play though?
[07:16] <jsestri2> gullstad_ does it only happen in xmms?
[07:17] <NickGarvey> casanova--: aptitude install build-essential
[07:17] <Lens> jsestri2: it's only 2 lines: /usr/share/man/man1/gksudo.1.gz     /usr/bin/gksudo
[07:17] <zipper_> Argh, i'm going crazy. I've got linux (including grub) configured, and windows wiped my MBR. I just want to re-install grub using my old settings, but none of the guides do me much help, since my harddrives are s-ata and apparently that changes how you install grub on MBR?
[07:17] <NickGarvey> zipper_: have you read !grub ?
[07:17] <zipper_> yes
[07:17] <omodo> [Ex0r] : hmm. what's a good way to find the package I need to install to get libruby.so.1.8?
[07:17] <ompaul> Stork, read this  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=java&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[07:17] <jsestri2> Lens: what does your properties Menu say exactly, can you put it in quotes?
[07:17] <zipper_> thats the guide i'm referring to
[07:17] <[Ex0r] > omodo, i usually use rpmfind.net for libruby.so.1.8
[07:17] <BenPA> hello all ... can someone tell me what and where the forum is for SCREEN
[07:18] <zipper_> but i get an error (cant remember it atm, sorry) which i think is related to me using s-ata drives instead of ide as the guide does
[07:18] <gullstad_> NickGarvey: MP3's still play. | jsestri2: It affects all sound.
[07:18] <NickGarvey> zipper_: yeah, I have no idea on sata drives, you can install grub through ubuntu though, maybe aptitude install grub or something heh
[07:18] <omodo> [Ex0r] , I did, it returned http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1438601/com/ruby-libs-1.8.0-1.i386.rpm.html
[07:18] <michaelasten> Can anyone help me, I just configured my WLAN and its working. How do I make it default so as it auto connects on every startup
[07:18] <michaelasten> ?
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > omodo, do an apt-cache search for ruby-libs
[07:18] <NickGarvey> michaelasten: it doesn't normally?
[07:18] <omodo> [Ex0r] , but it seems there's no "ruby-libs" package on Synaptic. I'll search again with apt-cache
[07:18] <zipper_> NickGarvey, i dont want to install the grub package, i want to install grub on MBR as my main bootloader
[07:18] <jsestri2> gullstad_ which sound mixer are you using?
[07:19] <NickGarvey> zipper_: use the grub package to do that..
[07:19] <_Spire_> zipper_: if you want to do that, try 'grub-install'
[07:19] <omodo> [Ex0r] , nothing :(
[07:19] <michaelasten> nickgravey: I use iwconfig to set it up
[07:19] <gullstad_> jsestri2,
[07:19] <[Ex0r] > BenPA, SCREEN is used to run multiple windows from one terminal
[07:19] <gullstad_> jsestri2, Alsta apperently
[07:19] <michaelasten> nickgravey: but i have to do it everytime
[07:19] <Lens> jsestri2 ... Name: Firestarter ...  Comment: Desktop Firewall Tool ... Command: gksu firestarter ... icon: firestarter icon
[07:19] <NickGarvey> michaelasten: oh theres a gui program for that
[07:19] <casanova--> NickGarvey, i installed build essentials, and yet, the error maintains
[07:19] <[Ex0r] > omodo, have you setup the universe/multiverse ?
[07:19] <omodo> [Ex0r] : yup.
[07:19] <_Spire_> zipper_: specificly, look at 'grub-install --help' and see what fits your needs
[07:19] <jsestri2> Lens: so there is a space between gksu and firestarter?
[07:19] <NickGarvey> michaelasten: you could put all the commands into a file and toss that in yoru start up scripts
[07:19] <casanova--> NickGarvey, it's a configure error
[07:19] <NickGarvey> casanova--: could you paste bin the output?
[07:20] <zipper_> _Spire_, i've tried, but i'm only having a ubuntu live install cd, i guess i'm supposed to mount my regular root system first? and run grub-install from there?
[07:20] <Lens> jsestri2, yep.
[07:20] <michaelasten> NickGravey: how?
[07:20] <[Ex0r] > omodo, do you have ruby installed?
[07:20] <BenPA> Ex0r, I am having trouble and get an error message GTK-warning cannot open display
[07:20] <jsestri2> ok...so firestarter is what you are looking for
[07:20] <_Spire_> zipper_: so you're trying to fix an existing grub install?
[07:20] <[Ex0r] > omodo, ah, found them. use sudo apt-get install libruby
[07:20] <Lens> jsestri2, ok, so locate *firestarter
[07:20] <zquirm> hi. I'm installing a package, and it has various dependencies. How can I save that list of dependencies so that they can all be removed if I wish?
[07:20] <zquirm> without keeping the list by hand
[07:20] <jsestri2> Lens: you nailed
[07:20] <zipper_> _Spire_, exactly. I've got it all configured and ready to go (on /dev/sda5).... i just need to put it back into MBR
[07:21] <jsestri2> Lens: you nailed it*
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > zquirm, when you remove the package it will remove the dependencies for it as well
[07:21] <omodo> [Ex0r] : yup. but Ruby is spread across many packages. also, I'm not sure I setup multiverse.
[07:21] <NickGarvey> zquirm: I would use aptitude, it handles unneeded packages well
[07:21] <omodo> [Ex0r] : I already did.
[07:21] <xorph> !vnc
[07:21] <ubotu> vnc is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[07:21] <michaelasten> nickgravey: how do i make a startup script?
[07:21] <casanova--> NickGarvey http://pastebin.com/716787
[07:21] <omodo> installed libruby1.8
[07:21] <zipper_> lilo was way easier than grub to be honest =/
[07:21] <NickGarvey> michaelasten: put all the commands into a text file
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > omodo, than you've got the libruby 1.8 already
[07:21] <skavenge> does the installation partitioner have a log? i keep trying to resize an ntfs partition to make room for the ubuntu install and it does nothing, doesn't resize and gives me no error
[07:21] <ranpha> what is a good program for image archiving. Something like thumbsplus or acdsee
[07:22] <zquirm> How can aptitude remove unneeded packages ?
[07:22] <NickGarvey> casanova--: oh I am very sorry...
[07:22] <_Spire_> zipper_: then try mounting the existing linux install, and then chroot into the install - 'chroot /mnt/whereyoumounted /bin/bash' and then running 'grub-install /dev/whatever'
[07:22] <NickGarvey> casanova--: 64 bit system can't run wine..
[07:22] <omodo> [Ex0r] : yup, but no libruby.so.1.8
[07:22] <zquirm> How could it even know.
[07:22] <NickGarvey> casanova--: (I have the same problem)
[07:22] <omodo> at least, locate doesn't find it.
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > omodo, the program you are using is looking for the wrong file than
[07:22] <MystaMax> anyone know if the sources.list file on dapper server is different than the one a dapper desktop?
[07:22] <Lens> jsestri2 ok, it's smaller, I'm still going to past bin it, 1 sec
[07:22] <NickGarvey> zquirm: because it keeps tract of all the dependences that are met, and when the program that made those dependences are removed, so are the unneeded dependences
[07:22] <omodo> [Ex0r] : possibly. it's quite old (2003). thanks for your help.
[07:23] <jsestri2> Lens: ok, sounds good
[07:23] <zipper_> _Spire_, i suppose that would be 'grub-install /dev/sda' to get it on the mbr right? I'm pretty sure i tried that already, but it's been a while, might be wrong
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > omodo, try cp /location/to/libruby.1.8.so libruby.so.1.8
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > try that
[07:23] <michaelasten> nickgravey: ok I made a text file with the commands now
[07:23] <casanova--> NickGarvey; isn't there a way to go around the problem?
[07:23] <_Spire_> zipper_: correct. run as root, of couse
[07:23] <NickGarvey> casanova--: I spent 3 hours on it, if you find a way do share
[07:23] <Lens> jsestri2: http://pastebin.com/716790
[07:23] <zquirm> NickGarvey: The state of "was installed because of dependency" is persistent?
[07:23] <NickGarvey> michaelasten: ok.. you are on ubuntu.. lemme think if theres a command
[07:23] <NKR> so does anyone know why rhythmbox and quodlibet can open media on windows partition fine but xmms/amarok/quark can't be pointed at anywhere outside / ?
[07:23] <NKR> or can they?
[07:23] <casanova--> NickGarvey; sure... i'll have to write a compatibility layer between 32-bit and 64 -bit linux binaries i guess lol
[07:24] <BenPA> Ex0r: I am having trouble and get an error message GTK-warning cannot open display
[07:24] <zipper_> _Spire_, root in ubuntu? like 'sudo /bin/sh' ?
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > casanova--, did you install the essentials ?
[07:24] <NickGarvey> zquirm: as far as I know, if not you could just save the dependences to your clipboard then a text file
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > build-essential ?
[07:24] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : wine + 64 bit = failure
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, ?
[07:24] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : thats the problem
[07:24] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : trying to compile wine on a 64 bit system won't work
[07:24] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : which is what casanova-- is trying to do
[07:25] <_Spire_> zipper_: first chroot into your existing install. do the chroot command as root. then just run grub-install after you chroot in.
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, ah, he's compiling wine on 64bit :) Yeah, that won't work.
[07:25] <casanova--> [Ex0r]  sure, i did, i have nearly everything; GCC, g++, j++, u name it...
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > it barely works for 32 bit
[07:25] <knome> bonjuer.
[07:25] <jsestri2> Lens: I suppose it has to be the one in sbin...but that means it has to have permisssions
[07:25] <zipper_> _Spire_, okay thanks, i'll go ahead and try that out.
[07:25] <rob_p> Lens, What are you trying to do?
[07:25] <jsestri2> Lens: what does the menu do?
[07:25] <zipper_> expect me to be back later with more problems :P
[07:25] <omodo> [Ex0r] : yes, that worked :)
[07:25] <_Spire_> :)
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > casanova--, wine wont install on a 64 bit system. It barely works for the 32 bit system, lol
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > omodo, congrats
[07:26] <jsestri2> rob_p: he has the firestarter firewall, and he wants it accesible from all user accounts (ones without root access)
[07:26] <omodo> [Ex0r] : cp /usr/lib/libruby1.8.so /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8
[07:26] <NickGarvey> 32 bit OS on a 64 bit system works though
[07:26] <Lens> jsestri2, you mean the permissions are unchangable... rop_p we are trying to make it so firestarter doesn't prompt for a pass everytime.
[07:26] <omodo> [Ex0r] : same to you. thanks a lot for your help :)
[07:26] <NickGarvey> like suse 64 has a lot of 32 bit things so suse worked there
[07:26] <NickGarvey> like suse 64 has a lot of 32 bit things so wine worked there
[07:26] <casanova--> [Ex0r]  i can see that... lol i have to figure out another way to get my Need for Speed work =D
[07:27] <Lens> jsestri2? you mean, GUI? searched it, no option for disabling pass.
[07:27] <Toran> What's the command line command to start the gnome printer setup tool?
[07:27] <zquirm> Why does it ask me to insert the CD when I go to install packages?
[07:27] <amarokker> made: yeah, i have it plugged into USB - the aztech modem
[07:27] <zquirm> How can I avoid this?
[07:27] <jsestri2> Lens: I don't know that its a "good" thing to do but "chmod a+x /usr/sbin/firestarter", and then you change the command in properties to be just firestarter
[07:27] <NickGarvey> !aptcd
[07:27] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[07:27] <casanova--> NickGarvey, i do have the SuSE 9.3 Professional edition on DVD here on my table. Would it work htere?
[07:27] <jsestri2> Lens: so "firestarter" instead of "gksu firestarter"
[07:27] <michaelasten> i got two harddisks i cant access :( i need help
[07:27] <Toran> What's the command line command to start the gnome printer setup tool?
[07:28] <NickGarvey> casanova--: I have no idea at all, only used open suse, but I expect so
[07:28] <[Ex0r] > michaelasten, can't access as in ?
[07:28] <NickGarvey> casanova--: if you have a knoppix disk try it out, that has wine on it
[07:28] <michaelasten> i cant enable them
[07:28] <ENG|moomin> hi
[07:28] <NickGarvey> ENG|moomin: hello
[07:28] <casanova--> NickGarvey; lol, i'd have to use knoppix to play Windows games
[07:28] <samir85> Hi everyone
[07:28] <[Ex0r] > michaelasten, do you get any errors ?
[07:28] <Lens> jsestri2, rob_p... I think it's dumb that firestarter wont work on accounts with less privalige, seems like those would be the accounts with the biggest need to be protected.
[07:28] <NickGarvey> I think I'll do a suse install today
[07:29] <jsestri2> Lens: it gets started automatically....
[07:29] <jsestri2> Lens: its always on....
[07:29] <michaelasten> it just wont respond, it is inaccesible even after i press the enable button in the disk manager
[07:29] <casanova--> Well, i could make a partition for SuSE too
[07:29] <samir85> can somebody give me an adivce how can I get my microphone working the apllication "sound recorder" which is shipped with ubuntu ?
[07:29] <Lens> jsestri2... ok... so no prompt for pass and it would just always start?
[07:29] <NickGarvey> samir85: audacity is good stuff from what I hear
[07:29] <Toran> What's the command line command to start the gnome printer setup tool?
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > michaelasten, did you mount it ?
[07:29] <jsestri2> Lens: its in /etc/init.d/ so it gets started when the machine starts
[07:29] <zquirm> Hi. I'm attempting to add a few packages via aptitude, but it's asking for the Dapper Drake install disk.
[07:29] <michaelasten> how?
[07:29] <zquirm> How can I stop this and make it work without disks?
[07:29] <Lens> jsestri2, could I change it back?
[07:30] <NickGarvey> !tell zquirm about aptcd
[07:30] <jsestri2> Lens: change what back?
[07:30] <rob_p> Lens, What makes you think they aren't protected?  When firestarter runs at bootup, it protects the *whole machine*, not just specific accounts.  It's a packet filter.
[07:30] <[Ex0r] > zquirm, your question was answered earlier. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list Comment out the line that says deb: cdrom (use a #)
[07:30] <Toran> What's the command line command to start the gnome printer setup tool?
[07:30] <skavenge> zquirm; take the cdrom out of the repository list
[07:30] <michaelasten> Ex0r: when i press mount disk it says " Unable to mount disk"  but im noot root so if you could tell me how to do it from root?
[07:30] <michaelasten> *terminal i mean
[07:31] <Lens> rob_p, it's not running right now.
[07:31] <jsestri2> Lens: try ps -A
[07:31] <new> can someone help with xml parsing error.. plz tell me why im not able to donload anything because of this?
[07:31] <jsestri2> Lens: that would tell you if its running
[07:31] <Lens> jsestri2, if I chmoded to start... could I change it back
[07:31] <Lens> jsestri2 ok.
[07:31] <NickGarvey> new: I don't understand your question
[07:31] <blacktoo> re
[07:31] <new> when i try to download something online, a game client im trying to download for unix
[07:32] <new> i get a xml parsing error
[07:32] <jsestri2> Lens: yes, if you "chmod a+x firestarter...you would want to do the command...let me look up
[07:32] <NickGarvey> new: do you have the direct url for the game?
[07:32] <[Ex0r] > new, try pastebining the error so we can have further insight on the problem. www.pastebin.com
[07:32] <new> yeh
[07:32] <NickGarvey> new: copy it to your clipboard, open up terminal
[07:32] <NickGarvey> new: and then
[07:32] <Lens> it's not running.
[07:32] <NickGarvey> new: wget "http://url"
[07:33] <BenPA> Ex0r: I am having trouble and get an error message GTK-warning cannot open display when attempting to use screen
[07:33] <[Ex0r] > BenPA, are you trying to use xstart ?
[07:33] <new> k, ill try that
[07:33] <new> ty
[07:33] <[Ex0r] > BenPA, startx*
[07:33] <NickGarvey> BenPA: are you root?
[07:33] <progrock> anyone know how to get spdif out working on an nforce 4 board?
[07:33] <miguelsr> some one know how to remove the limewire?
[07:33] <NickGarvey> BenPA: if you are logged in as root and you try to run a gui program it won't work, log out and use sudo
[07:34] <rob_p> Lens, Running?  I suspect you aren't familliar with how firewalling is done in the Linux kernel.  Once the firewall configuration utility (in this case, firestarter) has run and established a firewall policy, it's active and running in the kernel.
[07:34] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, he's using screen.
[07:34] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, IIRC, screen doesn't support the x system. Only terminal.
[07:34] <BenPA> Ex0r: I am shutting GDM
[07:34] <BenPA> off
[07:34] <skavenge> all firestarter is is a frontend for iptables which is always running, regardless if firestarter is 'running' or not
[07:34] <BenPA> I cntrl - alt - f3
[07:35] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : oh haha sorry
[07:35] <[Ex0r] > BenPA, Screen has to be ran outside of the x window system
[07:35] <BenPA> I am trying to use another window manager
[07:36] <Lens> rob_p yeah, you are talking over my head, I am just wondering mostly, how to change permissions on particular applications.
[07:36] <[Ex0r] > BenPA, screen is used for terminal windows, not x windows.
[07:37] <BenPA> i can use wmii right?
[07:37] <[Ex0r] > BenPA, you've got me there, i've never used WMII
[07:37] <Lens> rob_p, I didn't know all that about the kernal and all that.
[07:37] <t-thing> hi. Howto chmod recursively directories only?
[07:38] <BenPA> ok let me try ... I will try startx then try ... thank you all
[07:38] <void^> t-thing: use find with -type d
[07:38] <rob_p> skavenge, Actually, iptables is merely a command line utility for the configuration of the firewall rules/policies.  Since the iptables tool is very "syntaxy", folks have written other tools, such as firestarter, which manipulate the iptables tool, which then configures the rules in the kernel.  Hence, iptables is not always running!
[07:38] <[Ex0r] > void^, to chmod a directory ?
[07:39] <jajaja-> can someone give me a hand setting up ivtv i am having some trouble when i try to build i am getting a no file or directory error
[07:39] <void^> [Ex0r] : yes, like, find /foo -type d -exec chmod 700 {} \;
[07:40] <[Ex0r] > hmm, genius. never thought of that before :)
[07:40] <rob_p> skavenge, ...however, the rules/policies remain in effect within the kernel 'til they are cleared or the machine is rebooted.
[07:40] <new> hey nick, after ive downloaded it and its in my home folder
[07:40] <new> wuts the command to install
[07:40] <[Ex0r] > new, is it a .deb, or a .tar.gz ?
[07:41] <_Spire_> Who was it that was having problems running firestarter w/out the root password? Try the answer here: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php
[07:41] <new> lookin....
[07:41] <new> just has an SH on it
[07:41] <Lens> jsestri2... think of it this way... I have firestarter auto start like any other application (gaim) for example... on my admin account I have a 35 character pass... then it asks me right after for my root pass again to run firestarter... that's 70 characters before I can even get started! lol
[07:41] <amarokker_> can some one please tell me why I am getting this error msg? http://rafb.net/paste/results/XOOH2o48.html
[07:41] <[Ex0r] > new,  just use ./filename
[07:41] <new> k
[07:42] <jajaja-> whats the command to create a new folder
[07:42] <[Ex0r] > jajaja-, mkdir
[07:42] <jajaja-> thx
[07:43] <skavenge> boy the partition table on a stock dell laptop is just gross .. something tells me its this mess thats preventing me from resizing the ntfs partition
[07:44] <new> permision dinied =(
[07:44] <new> i recall something about root... or something like that
[07:44] <new> but... been away for awhile
[07:44] <[Ex0r] > new,  sudo ./filename.sh
[07:44] <new> ty
[07:44] <nacho_wide> does someone know how to script Xchat?  say, to auto-auth me?
[07:44] <Woxcer> Hi Everyone!
[07:44] <[Ex0r] > nacho_wide, it's already in xchat. Inside the server options window.
[07:45] <slewis> ubuntu_server_cd++ # Worked a treat
[07:45] <brian|lfs> sup peeps
[07:46] <[Ex0r] > nacho_wide, inside the XChat Window, go to X-Chat->Server List>Select the network you want to auto-auth on, click Edit>Nickserv Password at the bottom
[07:46] <Lens> rob_p, so are saying I only need to run firestarter once, set up my preferences and then I might as well uninstall it, because the kernel remembers my prefs and uses them?
[07:47] <nacho_wide> [Ex0r] , the nickserve pass is all i need?
[07:47] <simpkins> Anyone know of a  way or of a program for linux that is great for wireless, the one that comes with ubuntu when it gets disconnected doesnt reconnect on its own.
[07:47] <[Ex0r] > nacho_wide, yes
[07:47] <amarokker_> guys, some help please? I am getting a 'no route to host' error when i try to access my web server- i can access it through local host
[07:47] <rob_p> Lens, No.  I'm saying that once firestarter is run at bootup (which it is by default, once it's been installed and configured), it doesn't need to be run again after booting up... that's all.
[07:47] <amarokker_> NO, i am not behind a router. What can i do to solve the prob? install dhcp? firewall?
[07:48] <wm0t> does anyone know a decent usenet binary app for ubuntu?
[07:48] <NickGarvey> wow, screen owns
[07:48] <nacho_wide> [Ex0r] : the problem is that I use the nick nacho_wide on quakenet, and it doesn't let me use the underscore, so i have to auth under nachoWide.  so how can i auth nachoWide (without manually typing it in each time) but still keep the nacho_wide nick?
[07:48] <Lens> yes, but you know how fire starter is easy to see running?  it is a blue circle with an arrow which turns red during suspicious activity...?
[07:48] <NickGarvey> I can edit a file while reading the man pages for it
[07:49] <Lens> rob_p ^
[07:49] <Dial_tone> Ubuntu only uses 150MB on startup. so much for gnome being a resource hog
[07:49] <A-G> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu, and Linux altogether.
[07:49] <Dial_tone> compared to xp at least
[07:49] <wm0t> does anyone know a decent usenet binary app for ubuntu?
[07:49] <A-G> I had a question on installing a tar.gz package.
[07:49] <[Ex0r] > nacho_wide, good question
[07:49] <Dial_tone> wm0t: pan
[07:49] <[Ex0r] > actually, for alternative nick, use nachowide
[07:49] <A-G> Could someone PM me with a help offer?
[07:49] <Siriuskr> A-G Just ask your question here
[07:49] <nacho_wide> [Ex0r] : :)
[07:49] <Dial_tone> a-g, ask in the chan so everyone can learn
[07:49] <[Ex0r] > that way when quakenet makes you change it, it'll automatically change it to nachowide
[07:50] <A-G> Alright. :)
[07:50] <wm0t> Dial_tone  is it gui?
[07:50] <A-G> Basically, how do I install a tar.gz package?
[07:50] <Dial_tone> if it wasn't I wouldn't answered your question
[07:50] <Siriuskr> A-G: tar -xvzf tarfile.tar.gz
[07:50] <anjel> hmm, can anyone help me with a generic Linux IDE controller problem? when Linux loads my controller it moves the motherboard's IDE channels up to 3 and 4 .. so Grub can't find the root partition :/
[07:50] <Siriuskr> A-G: tar -xvjf tarfile.tar.bz2  for bzip
[07:51] <A-G> Alright, thanks. Is there a website where I can find a list of commands, and what they do?
[07:51] <Siriuskr> A-G: Tar file is like a zip file you dont install it you extract it
[07:51] <nacho_wide> [Ex0r] : how do i do alt. nick?
[07:51] <rob_p> Lens, So you want the gui to be up and running in order to see activity... In that case, you'll have to launch it.  But keep in mind that whether or not you have the gui up and running, the firewall is still in effect.  That is the point I wanted to get across.
[07:51] <[Ex0r] > nacho_wide, in server list, second choice
[07:52] <Siriuskr> A-G: Im not sure ubuntu.com have good documentation tho and forums
[07:52] <Dial_tone> actually, tar is like a zip that isn't compressed. tar.gz or tar.bz is compressed like a zip
[07:52] <mark_> err,..I.need.help
[07:52] <nacho_wide> hmmm
[07:52] <jdrake> Does anyone know of a nice script that will sort various music files into nicely formed directories based on internal tags?
[07:52] <A-G> ALright, so I've unpacked the tar file.
[07:52] <mark_> i.have.unmapped.spacebar.and.return,accidently
[07:52] <Lens> rob_p, ok that's fine, but how do I see the GUI, and how do I get it to not prompt me for a pass word everytime, because my pass is 3 characters?
[07:52] <Lens> 35*
[07:52] <rob_p> Lens, The cleanest way to allow non-priv'd users to launch it would be to make an entry in your sudoers file that allows it.
[07:53] <A-G> DO i go to the folder in which they were unpacked, and install from there now?
[07:53] <mark_> can.anyone.help.me.remap.my.sapcebar.and.return.keys?
[07:53] <A-G> There is an install file, and an install sh file
[07:53] <[Ex0r] > run the sh file
[07:53] <mark_> this.isn't.a.joke,it's.veryannoying
[07:54] <A-G> It brings up a text file.
[07:54] <Lens> rob_p, cool, could you help me get there real quick?
[07:54] <[Ex0r] > did you do sudo ./install.sh ?
[07:54] <nbt> hi the option to skip acpi is noacpi ?
[07:54] <Dial_tone> mmm. I wonder if there's way to get the extra keyboard functions to wok, like webcam, email, media player, etc
[07:54] <nbt> pressing f6 at boot ?
[07:54] <mark_> you.have.tochmod.the.script.with.+x
[07:54] <NickGarvey> mark_: hehe, where is your return key?
[07:54] <mark_> under.my.backspace.key
[07:54] <ubynoob> can you run windows media player on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:54] <NickGarvey> mark_: do you know how it got that way?
[07:54] <mark_> yes
[07:54] <[Ex0r] > how the heck did he unmap his keyboard?
[07:54] <mark_> i.was.setting.up.shortcuts
[07:54] <NickGarvey> mark_: did someone edit your keyboard files?
[07:55] <A-G> When I bring up a SH file, it brings a text file, is there anyway to actually execute it?
[07:55] <[Ex0r] > A-G, sudo chmod +x install.sh (or whatever the name is)
[07:55] <new> Exor
[07:55] <NickGarvey> A-G: chmod +x filename.sh
[07:55] <Dial_tone> damn they do
[07:55] <mark_> and.i.set.space.and.return.to.shortcuts.and.it.umapped.the.keys
[07:55] <new> i extracted the file so now its .tar.gz
[07:55] <squiggly> sudo rm -rf /
[07:56] <NickGarvey> mark_: did you remove the shortcut?
[07:56] <mark_> i.am.begiing.anyone.who.can.help
[07:56] <mark_> yes
[07:56] <Lens> is the sudoers file where you change permissions and stuff under /etc/sudoers?
[07:56] <NickGarvey> new: tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[07:56] <NickGarvey> Lens: use "visudo"
[07:56] <[Ex0r] > new, so run tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[07:56] <NickGarvey> mark_: ok wait a sec lemme check something
[07:56] <mark_> ok
[07:56] <danfg> Braziiiiilll!
[07:56] <Lens> NickGarvy: thx.
[07:56] <anfangs> Hello! I want to be able to read/write my hard drive from Linux and Windows. What is the best file system for this?
[07:57] <anfangs> just for storage, not for hosting an actual OS
[07:57] <rob_p> Lens, Sure.  You'll need to make an entry in your /etc/sudoers file that contains, "username   ALL= NOPASSWD: /path/to/command", using the visudo program.
[07:57] <danfg> anfangs: fat32, fat16
[07:57] <mark_> fat32.for.dual.boot.orext3.for.just.linux
[07:57] <NickGarvey> mark_: try "setxkbmap uk"
[07:57] <squiggly> There's an NTFS workaround I think, but it's still beta (afaik)
[07:57] <[Ex0r] > it worked nice last time I used it
[07:57] <squiggly> I wouldn't use fat32/fat16 if you intend to use large storage drives
[07:58] <mark_> mark@mark-desktop:~$ setxkbmap uk
[07:58] <mark_> Error loading new keyboard description
[07:58] <anfangs> it's a 160GB.
[07:58] <anfangs> someone suggestes ext2 or 3
[07:58] <NickGarvey> mark_: grr, try "setxkbmap us"
[07:58] <mark_> hmm.could.mod.map.work?
[07:58] <A-G> I get this when I go to install.
[07:58] <A-G> andy@Bubby:~/Desktop/qtella-0.7.0$ sudo chmod +x install-sh
[07:58] <SurfnKid> =D
[07:58] <A-G> THen a blank line.
[07:58] <squiggly> You'll lose 40gigs or so i think
[07:58] <A-G> Nothing comes up
[07:58] <anfangs> ! nope, dont wanna do that
[07:58] <ubotu> anfangs: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <[Ex0r] > A-G, you sure it's not called install.sh ?
[07:58] <skavenge> A-G; now do sudo ./install.sh
[07:58] <new> something happened after the i ran  tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[07:58] <new> but i still.. dont see anything
[07:58] <skavenge> you have to run it after you chmod it
[07:59] <NickGarvey> new: it all extracted in that folder, try "ls"
[07:59] <mark_> no,same.error
[07:59] <A-G> [Ex0r] : It's called install-sh in the folder.
[07:59] <[Ex0r] > new, it extracted the files into a folder. try ls
[07:59] <new> k
[07:59] <nbt> how do i get ubuntu 6 to work on a acer aspire 1692 wlmi ?
[07:59] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ha! faster fingers!
[07:59] <olivier> hi I have install ati driver from the repos but when I do a fglrxinfo I've got OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org insteed of ATI, what's wrong please
[07:59] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, that time anyways
[08:00] <umberleigh> can someone help, i think i've seriously hosed my system trying to enable dma in dapper :(
[08:00] <NickGarvey> olivier: follow the instuction on !ati ?
[08:00] <A-G> andy@Bubby:~/Desktop/qtella-0.7.0$ sudo /install-sh
[08:00] <A-G> sudo: /install-sh: command not found
[08:00] <olivier> !ati
[08:00] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[08:00] <SurfnKid> olivier: did you reconfigure the xserver?
[08:00] <[Ex0r] > A-G, ./install-sh
[08:00] <olivier> thx NickGarvey
[08:00] <NickGarvey> olivier: :)
[08:00] <skavenge> forgot the period
[08:00] <mark_> damn,it
[08:00] <olivier> SurfnKid, I do a aticonfig --initial
[08:00] <[Ex0r] > A-G, forgot the period
[08:00] <A-G> andy@Bubby:~/Desktop/qtella-0.7.0$ ./install-sh
[08:00] <A-G> install:        no input file specified
[08:00] <mark_> is.there.a.config.file.somewhere.inGNOME.i.can.manually.edit?
[08:00] <umberleigh> i added the lines /dev/hda { dma = on} and the same for /dev/hdc, and now when i boot up it won't even pass the post
[08:00] <SurfnKid> olivier: how about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:00] <danfg> how can i have some hds slow down (standby?) when idle?
[08:01] <progrock> is there a way to convert a ntfs partition to fat32 without losing the files on the partition?
[08:01] <new> k, i did the ls.. and its said desktop... but.. dont see it on desktop..
[08:01] <olivier> SurfnKid, I don't do it I will
[08:01] <umberleigh> er... added those lines to /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:01] <[Ex0r] > progrock, nope
[08:01] <SurfnKid> ok
[08:01] <NickGarvey> new: it should be there.. what is the name of the file?
[08:01] <Dial_tone> I was so sure the multimedia keys on my keyboard wouldn't work I never even tried them.
[08:01] <Dial_tone> but they do
[08:01] <miguelsr> some one know how to put the amsn script to the foldeer on the terminal i dont have access
[08:01] <new> graal4setup
[08:01] <nbt> how do i get ubuntu 6 to work on a acer aspire 1692 wlmi ?
[08:02] <[Ex0r] > new, graal4setup.tar.gz ?
[08:02] <new> yeh
[08:02] <[Ex0r] > new, cd graal4setup
[08:02] <NickGarvey> nbt: what doesn't work?
[08:02] <new> not a directory
[08:02] <[Ex0r] > new,  ./graal4setup
[08:04] <olivier> !ati
[08:04] <ubotu> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[08:04] <new> k i did the  ./graal4setup then it said permission dinied.. so i tryed sudo  ./graal4setup and said no such file
[08:05] <NickGarvey> new: then you had a typo the 2nd time
[08:05] <new> should i do the whole /home/desktop?
[08:05] <miguelsr> some one know how to put the amsn script to the foldeer on the terminal i dont have access
[08:05] <new> k
[08:05] <nbt> nothing works
[08:05] <danfg> how can i tell ubuntu to put hard drives in standby after a while?
[08:05] <SurfnKid> danfg: good question
[08:05] <nbt> it stops on the start/install ubuntu screen
[08:05] <SurfnKid> thats what i would like too
[08:05] <SurfnKid> danfg: you could use hdparm. with a timing argument
[08:05] <nbt> after pressing enter and  tscrolls a bunch of lines
[08:05] <[Ex0r] > new, sudo ./graal4setup
[08:05] <[Ex0r] > new,  one space, not 2
[08:05] <Mattsta> can someone help me set up so i can watch avis mpgs and wmvs in ubuntu
[08:06] <SurfnKid> ubotu tell Mattsta about RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <ardchoille> mattl, you need codecs. hold on and I'll try to find the wiki page for ya..
[08:06] <[Ex0r] > !RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <ubotu> see !restricted
[08:06] <[Ex0r] > !restricted
[08:06] <ardchoille> never mind.. SurfnKid did it for me :)
[08:06] <danfg> SurfnKid: I've a few windows drives that aren't being used a lot when I boot into linux
[08:06] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[08:06] <[Ex0r] > there you go
[08:06] <NickGarvey> !tell Mattsta about restricted
[08:06] <skavenge> if its stopping on 'mounting root filesystem', you need to wait a bit. it takes a few minutes to pass that on my laptop
[08:07] <Mattsta> restricted?
[08:07] <[Ex0r] > Mattsta, .wmv comes with windows, windows isnt free, therefore the codec isnt free
[08:07] <SurfnKid> danfg: I turn mine off with hdparm -Y /dev/hda but be careful using that if you write constantly to the drives
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Mattsta: read the PM from ubotu
[08:08] <danfg> SurfnKid: ok, but if my computer explodes I'LL HUNT YOU DOWN!
[08:08] <mark_> hurrah!
[08:08] <mark_> thank you for your help
[08:08] <SurfnKid> Mattsta: Those formats are restricted and you have to download a package and install it so itll enable i.e. avi,mpg,mp3 and so forth
[08:08] <mark_> space is fun!
[08:09] <[Ex0r] > new, did you get it going ?
[08:09] <SurfnKid> today is a sad day
[08:09] <SurfnKid> sad indeed
[08:09] <danfg> SurfnKid: why's that?
[08:09] <Igramul> SurfnKid: Why?
[08:09] <danfg> SurfnKid: because Australia lost?
[08:09] <Mattsta> i have xmms which plays MP3s, and i honestly am not too sure how to use ubuntu
[08:09] <mark_> day after the Queen's birthday
[08:09] <SurfnKid> Because australia lost and Brasil just whooped their butt =D
[08:10] <SurfnKid> sad day for them, happy for me :P
[08:10] <mark_> what was the score?
[08:10] <danfg> SurfnKid: not for me then, i'm brazilian, yay! :)
[08:10] <SurfnKid> 2 - 0 brasil
[08:10] <zenit> SurfnKid: they played well though. A shame that they didn't use any of the great chances they got.
[08:10] <mark_> pah england's gonna win
[08:10] <SurfnKid> danfg: yeah im with ya
[08:10] <mark_> we've got crouch
[08:10] <skavenge> brasil played like chumps too, give credit to the keeper for sure aussie had some chances
[08:10] <ardchoille> how do I turn the bootslpash screen off? I want to see what's happening instead of the ubuntu logo.
[08:10] <zOap> mark_, haha, you're dreaming :D
[08:10] <joemauch> is there any way for me to use REiser4 when installing ubuntu?
[08:10] <SurfnKid> zenit: what in the heck was wrong with them, hell they played a bit tired
[08:10] <danfg> SurfnKid: not a whoopin', 2x0 is an ok score
[08:10] <mark_> a man can dream, a man can dream
[08:11] <SurfnKid> danfg: yep
[08:11] <Igramul> ardchoille: Remove the "splash" keyword from the grub configuration.
[08:11] <new> =\
[08:11] <ardchoille> Igramul, ah, thank you :)
[08:11] <new> ive tryed everythin uve told me.. dont think im mispelling
[08:11] <neutrinomass> joemauch: No. ReiserFS4 is experimental AFAIK
[08:11] <Igramul> ardchoille: It is in /boot/grub/menu.lst in the lines beginning with "kernel"
[08:11] <SurfnKid> skavenge: yes that is true for at least 2 plays i saw, he saved
[08:11] <danfg> SurfnKid: look at Argentina, 6x0, now that was amazing. we live next to Argentina, and can't stand them bragging about it
[08:11] <SurfnKid> danfg: wow, that was
[08:12] <Igramul> ardchoille: But do not change anything else!
[08:12] <SurfnKid> i saw that game, it was incredible
[08:12] <danfg> :)
[08:12] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:12] <mark_> well thanks for your help
[08:12] <SurfnKid> i wanted paraguay to win against servia montevideo
[08:12] <mark_> can i help anyone?
[08:12] <danfg> Brazil is known to get it's ass kicked sometimes by their argentinian neighbour
[08:12] <Igramul> Trinidad-Tobago!
[08:12] <Igramul> ;)
[08:12] <ardchoille> Igramul, Thank you :)
[08:12] <danfg> Igramul: yay!
[08:13] <SurfnKid> so it would have been, all southamerican countries. Brasil, Argentina, Paraguay, and my favorite Ecuador
[08:13] <skavenge> argentina would kill brasil right now imo
[08:13] <SurfnKid> danfg: ohhh i didnt konw that, have to see them play to get a feel for the yolk
[08:13] <SurfnKid> i say good game, Joga Bonitooo
[08:14] <danfg> :)
[08:14] <sjoerd_> hello, I found putty is available for ubuntu. But what should I use instead of WinSCP?
[08:15] <ThePub> scp maybe? :)
[08:15] <Igramul> sjoerd: sftp?
[08:15] <sjoerd_> ok thanks
[08:15] <Kyral> why use Putty on Linux
[08:15] <danfg> sjoerd_: why use putty?
[08:15] <sjoerd_> I saw it on the list, it is the same program?
[08:15] <Kyral> the command line SSH client owns
[08:15] <sjoerd_> what should I use instead of putty
[08:15] <danfg> i agree
[08:15] <Igramul> sjoerd: or use konqueror with an URL like sftp://user@server
[08:15] <mark_> Kyral speaks the truth
[08:15] <ThePub> just use "ssh"
[08:15] <danfg> sjoerd_:  ssh
[08:15] <Kyral> (Keep in mind PuTTY is the only thing I keep on my Novell (Windows) account at school :P)
[08:15] <sjoerd_> ok
[08:16] <nerdzyboy> Hi
[08:16] <fluxbox> Hi Guys, Any idea how i add for example the user (FLUXBOX) to say the "admin" group?
[08:16] <mark_> yeah i use Putty as well, combined with lynx it lets me read gaming news at school
[08:16] <nerdzyboy> How do I get my wifi adapter to work in ubuntu?
[08:16] <Kyral> fluxbox: it should be something like usermod -G -a admin <username>
[08:16] <sjoerd_> is there some way to safe a profile for the command line ssh?
[08:16] <Kyral> fluxbox: but I may have the command line wrong
[08:16] <Kyral> sjoerd_: I believe so, try man ssh
[08:16] <mark_> er just save the full command as a script?
[08:17] <casanova--> Linux has some advanteges over Novell / windows environment: things about networks protocols are well covered in the standard release without the need to search for extra utilities in the WWW
[08:17] <sjoerd_> thanks Kyral
[08:17] <Kyral> casanova--: I know
[08:17] <Kyral> casanova--: I don't use it if I can help it
[08:17] <Kyral> casanova--: PuTTY is just about the one Windows program I trust absolutely
[08:17] <new> Nick, after i do the 'ls' and see "Desktop      graal4setup       graal4setup.tar.gz, wut do i do
[08:17] <SurfnKid> I get diahrrea when i hear windwos talk tcp lingo
[08:18] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[08:18] <digivore> hi i'm new to linux, just installed kubuntu, on an old system, and as i was trying to install firefox, the system  crashed/hung.  had to hard reset
[08:18] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: whats your wifi card
[08:18] <digivore> now it doesn't start kubuntu anymore
[08:18] <new> Nick?
[08:18] <digivore> am i going to have to re-install?
[08:18] <mark_> anyone here use banshee?
[08:18] <SurfnKid> digivore: do you get a prompt at all
[08:18] <nerdzyboy> PCMCIA SMC EZ Connect (SMC2635W)
[08:19] <SurfnKid> !wifi
[08:19] <ubotu> wifi is, like, a term to describe wireless networks (also known as 802.11a/b/g/n). For help getting it set up in Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:19] <mark_> !banshee
[08:19] <ubotu> mark_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:19] <mark_> yeah anyway
[08:19] <omodo> doesn't Ubuntu set shortcuts for Ruby?
[08:19] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: try finding your card there and see the compatibility list. If the chip is supported, you shouldnt have any problems installing it and enablin a few commands
[08:19] <mark_> i'm after the plugin for music sharing on banshee
[08:19] <omodo> I have it installed, but I have to call it with ruby1.8
[08:19] <mark_> it's supposed to come with banshee
[08:19] <nerdzyboy> k
[08:19] <budward> shortcuts? You mean symbolic links?
[08:19] <new> :(
[08:20] <digivore> SurfnKid: it starts the kubuntu splash 'mounting drives'  then goes back to text screen, then says unable to locate RDSP.  and is hung ther
[08:20] <mark_> but the ubuntu packagers stripped it
[08:20] <sjoerd_> I think I prefer putty over the command line SSH
[08:20] <omodo> budward: yes
[08:20] <SurfnKid> digivore: :/ not sure there
[08:20] <nerdzyboy> How do I know what chipset is in my card?
[08:20] <SurfnKid> !rdsp
[08:20] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[08:20] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: search the wifi page for your manufacturer
[08:20] <nerdzyboy> k
[08:21] <nerdzyboy> not mentionned...
[08:21] <SurfnKid> what page you on
[08:21] <new> anyone know wut i should do; i ran the tar command on a .tar.gz file.
[08:21] <new> and i gueess it was extracted
[08:22] <new> then i ran 'ls"
[08:22] <nerdzyboy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo?action=show&redirect=WiFiHowto
[08:22] <nerdzyboy> and te 2 others
[08:22] <new> and it says its on desktop.. but wut next.. dont see it
[08:22] <sjoerd_> Is there a need to install monitor drivers under Ubuntu?
[08:22] <A-G> chmod: cannot access `/home/andy/Desktop/lampp/lampp.sh': No such file or directory
[08:22] <A-G> I don't understand.
[08:22] <nerdzyboy> "For cards based on Ralink's RT2500 and For cards based on Rakink's RT61"
[08:22] <A-G> THere is a file of that name in that directory.
[08:23] <A-G> Can Anyone help?
[08:23] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: when you run lspci -v | less
[08:23] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: doe syour card show up
[08:23] <uber_spaced> when I run mplayer on a dvd i get an error that says encrypted VOB file or something, and the dvd comes up garbled.
[08:23] <uber_spaced> if more info is needed about the error, lemme know.
[08:23] <digivore> why is ubuntu btter than any other distro?
[08:23] <nerdzyboy> sec ill try
[08:24] <SurfnKid> digivore: not sure but its good :)
[08:24] <DShepherd> digivore: yeah its very good
[08:24] <Lynoure> digivore: it's not, necessarily, many distros are good, just different
[08:24] <digivore> is it just supposed to be easier?
[08:24] <uber_spaced> digivore, there are a couple of things; there are distros for the 'do it your selfers'
[08:24] <mooomin> try it it's free?
[08:24] <uber_spaced> and there are distros for the 'everything is in packages'
[08:24] <DShepherd> digivore: and its well supported
[08:24] <stevekl> Can someone remind me real quick what apt package firefox needs to play videos?
[08:24] <digivore> yah i'm trying it.. but i mean i've heard good things about red hat.
[08:24] <uber_spaced> and packages have 2 camps (kindof), rpm based and apt based stuff
[08:24] <nerdzyboy> yeah it shows up
[08:25] <uber_spaced> and if you like apt stuff, ubunto isnt bad
[08:25] <uber_spaced> if you like rpm stuff, redhat isnt bad
[08:25] <SurfnKid> ok
[08:25] <uber_spaced> so, ubuntu is based off of a do ityour self distro with stuff pre-configured
[08:25] <digivore> rpm and apt in a nutshell? (i'm new)
[08:25] <uber_spaced> and it's apt based.
[08:25] <DShepherd> stevekl: totem-xine? totem-gstreamer?mplayer-mozilla?
[08:25] <uber_spaced> digivore, you know windows installable packages?
[08:25] <stevekl> DShepherd, All of those, or one of them?
[08:25] <digivore> yes installshield sort of stuff
[08:25] <uber_spaced> well, apt does things one way, rpm does it in another
[08:26] <uber_spaced> just different flavors of installation programs
[08:26] <sjoerd_> How do I add a program that is installed to the Applications menu on top?
[08:26] <DShepherd> stevekl: one of them should work. I use the mplayer-mozilla plugin
[08:26] <uber_spaced> some like rpm, some like apt.  ifyou are just starting, then you probably wont be able to tell the difference for a while.
[08:26] <digivore> i have been trying to install firefox for a day anc can't get it to fire.
[08:26] <stevekl> DShepherd, ok, thank you!
[08:26] <digivore> i thought hat would be the easiert thing to install i kubuntu
[08:26] <DShepherd> stevekl: sure. np
[08:26] <neutrinomass> digivore: Generally speaking, if you are new to Linux you want to go with OpenSuSE, Fedora or Ubuntu :) Of the three, I prefer Ubuntu but it all boils down to personal taste.
[08:26] <m_0_r_0_n> Although I ve installed the win32codecs totem is not able to play a wmv file due to missing decoder, but mplayer does. What s wrong with totem?
[08:26] <Lynoure> digivore: Redhat is not free, but Fedora is. (And yes, Ubuntu is)
[08:27] <nerdzyboy> How do I make the card work?
[08:27] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: hang on im looking
[08:27] <m_0_r_0_n> And Ubuntu is better than fedora
[08:27] <nerdzyboy> k ;)
[08:27] <DShepherd> m_0_r_0_n: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[08:27] <digivore> how hard is it to install Enlightenment in ubuntu ?
[08:28] <scud> http://howtoforge.com/xen_3.0_ubuntu_dapper_drake  in that article instructing how to setup xen on ubuntu dapper, would does the author mean when he says  "it /boot/grub/menu.lst placing the following lines before the Automagic section"?
[08:28] <DShepherd> digivore: sudo apt-get install enlightenment?
[08:29] <DShepherd> digivore: you can do a search for enlightment with synaptic or apt
[08:29] <digivore> DShepherd:  i just type that into the terminal?
[08:30] <DShepherd> digivore: you can.. or use synaptic and do a search for enlightment. then install the enlightment package if you want
[08:30] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: there's 2 cards close to yours.  SMC2835W V2 Prism54 chipset. and SMC2632W V2 atmel_cs chipset. but says very little there. hang on let em look at another page
[08:30] <Mattsta> I still cant seem to watch wmvs
[08:30] <nerdzyboy> np
[08:31] <SurfnKid> Mattsta: what are you using, mplayer, xfmedia, xmms?
[08:31] <digivore> DShepherd: when you say 'install'  enlightenment, thats where i'll get stuck,  how to i do it?
[08:31] <DShepherd> digivore: sudo apt-get install enlightment. just type that in the terminal
[08:31] <Mattsta> i cant seem to intall mplayer, and i thought xmms was only audio, but now im trying vlc
[08:32] <Dial_tone> Mattsta: totem is good with all the codecs
[08:32] <SurfnKid> Mattsta: your sound works
[08:32] <siriusnova> totem is good without gstreamer
[08:32] <siriusnova> :P
[08:32] <scud> what is the 'Automagic section' in /boot/grub/menu.1st ?
[08:32] <Bck14> i cant get wget to work
[08:32] <Bck14> :(
[08:32] <m_0_r_0_n> DShepherd, I ve installed all packages listed on the website you pasted, but totem still messages that the needed decoder isnt installed
[08:32] <SurfnKid> Mattsta: Dial_tone is right i use totem, its just bulky but works on most
[08:32] <nerdzyboy> it says RaLink Wireless PCI Adaptor RT2400 / RT2460
[08:32] <new> can anyone help me install a file.. ive already got it extracted.. but im stuck
[08:32] <digivore> DShepherd: ok thanks i'll try it once i get kubuntu installed again.
[08:32] <Bck14> wget says:
[08:32] <Mattsta> im not sure why it wont work, ill send the error
[08:32] <Bck14> Resolving ftp.nerim.net... 32.1.7.168, 2001:7a8:1:5::14
[08:32] <Bck14> Connecting to ftp.nerim.net|32.1.7.168|:21... failed: Connection timed out.
[08:32] <Bck14> Connecting to ftp.nerim.net|2001:7a8:1:5::14|:21... failed: Network is unreachab
[08:33] <DShepherd> digivore: kool
[08:33] <Mattsta> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[08:33] <Bck14> and if i do it for google.com
[08:33] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: what says that. but isnt it pcmcia?
[08:33] <Bck14> i get
[08:33] <Bck14> Resolving ftp.nerim.net... 32.1.7.168, 2001:7a8:1:5::14
[08:33] <Bck14> Connecting to ftp.nerim.net|32.1.7.168|:21... failed: Connection timed out.
[08:33] <Bck14> Connecting to ftp.nerim.net|2001:7a8:1:5::14|:21... failed: Network is unreachab
[08:33] <Bck14> but googles ip is different from that
[08:33] <skavenge> !paste
[08:33] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[08:33] <SurfnKid> Bck14:  I get the same error
[08:33] <DShepherd> Bck14: is guess the network is unreachable then
[08:33] <Bck14> its not
[08:33] <Bck14> im using it now
[08:34] <Bck14> my network
[08:34] <DShepherd> Bck14: ok
[08:34] <SurfnKid> Bck14: on my laptop, there is a bit of a problem with synaptic and some routers, so.. connect your pc/laptop directly to the net. and it will work
[08:34] <Bck14> but google isnt ip'd as
[08:34] <Chameleon22> can somebody tell me (link perhaps) how to read status information returned by dpkg --list, the rc, ii, pi, ... that stuff
[08:34] <Mattsta> so how do i get it to work
[08:34] <Bck14> SurfnKid: i cant im on a lan
[08:34] <Bck14> shared connection
[08:34] <new> can someone help me install a file.. or give me link to a guide
[08:34] <SurfnKid> Bck14: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list say?
[08:34] <jdrake> Is there a way to determine how long a process has been sleeping?
[08:34] <Bck14> 1 sec
[08:34] <Lynoure> Bck14: Sometimes dns servers are lagging a bit behind in data...
[08:35] <Bck14> i tried around 2/3 hours ago
[08:35] <digivore> what does  'dapper'  mean?
[08:35] <Bck14> its only 2/3 host lan
[08:35] <skavenge> suave
[08:35] <Bck14> nothing massive
[08:35] <Dial_tone> digivore: well dressed
[08:35] <Dial_tone> gentlemanly
[08:36] <digivore> referring to ubuntu.  dapper   nice :)
[08:36] <new> after running ls and finding out where the extracted file is.. wut do i do
[08:36] <new> someone?
[08:36] <Bck14> SurfnKid: just pasteing it now
[08:36] <Dial_tone> http://experts.microsoft.fr/default.aspx
[08:37] <SurfnKid> nerdzyboy: im not sure on that chipset, but a few others here might know. If you cant find it on ubuntuforums try the wiki. If not just come back later on and ask someone surely will know somethin
[08:37] <Mattsta> Well i got XF media to work
[08:37] <SurfnKid> Bck14: ok
[08:37] <Bck14> !paste
[08:37] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[08:37] <SurfnKid> awesome Mattsta
[08:37] <SurfnKid> Mattsta: im streaming radio from CZ
[08:37] <BioVorE> Dial_tone: lolz..
[08:38] <new> anyone?
[08:38] <SurfnKid> Mattsta: with xfmedia
[08:38] <Mattsta> CZ?
[08:38] <SurfnKid> Checz Rep
[08:38] <Bck14> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15919
[08:38] <ardchoille> new, what type of file is it and what do you want to do with it?
[08:38] <Mattsta> o right on
[08:38] <new> its a game file.. client.. and im trying to install it
[08:38] <nerdzyboy> SurfnKid, thanks
[08:39] <SurfnKid> np
[08:39] <ardchoille> new, does the filename end in .bin?
[08:39] <Bck14> SurfnKid: why do you need apt source file ?
[08:39] <Bck14> i think apt is working ok
[08:39] <Bck14> just wget :(
[08:39] <thomasM> is anybody here having trouble with the banshee from repositories? specifically starting inotify threads?
[08:39] <new> no. let me chekc
[08:39] <SurfnKid>  i meant /etc/resolv.conf  not sources.list sorry
[08:39] <Bck14> ok
[08:40] <new> .tar.gz
[08:40] <SurfnKid> Bck14: ohh the other way around. I see. mmm
[08:40] <ardchoille> new, that is a gzipped tarball and you have to extract it
[08:40] <Bck14> SurfnKid:
[08:40] <Bck14> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[08:40] <Bck14> is all thats in my resolv.conf
[08:40] <SurfnKid> Bck14: change that to ISP's DNS
[08:40] <Bck14> hmm ok
[08:40] <linux_user400354> my hp printer is not being found in ubuntu? it wont print. do i need to change the driver?
[08:40] <new> i extracted it with help of exor earlier... and he told me to type in "ls" and i did
[08:40] <SurfnKid> or use 24.41.93.125  and 24.41.93.126
[08:41] <Bck14> need to find that now :)
[08:41] <digivore> what type of files are executable in linux?  or do i have to compile them?
[08:41] <null> Hello. I just destroyed my MBR by installing Windows. Now I booted up with the LiveCD, rerun grub and installed it to the mbr... after rebooting I get the grub shell. When I type 'configfile /grub/menu.lst' it boots Ubuntu... Why doesn't it use the menu.lst by default?
[08:41] <new> and it says Desktop  graal4setup  graal4setup.tar.gz
[08:41] <ardchoille> new, if you extracted a tarball and it gave you another tarball, then you need to extract the new tarball too
[08:41] <new> how do i do that
[08:42] <Consty> I tried graal on linux, and only the offline game worked.. when I tried connecting to the online game it just sits on a black screen
[08:42] <ardchoille> new, try, in a term, sh ./graal4setup
[08:43] <Lynoure> digivore:  Can you rephrase that question? What are you trying to run? (What is executable depends on many things and often executable stuff does not have any special thing in their name unlike with windows .exe.)
[08:43] <Bck14> SurfnKid: i cant find isp dns
[08:44] <SurfnKid> Bck14: what router u on
[08:44] <Bck14> home lan
[08:44] <ardchoille> whoa! 901 users, is that a record ?
[08:44] <Bck14> etec or something
[08:44] <SurfnKid> Bck14: in the router status you should find DHCP status.. connected  IP/DNS servers
[08:45] <new> omg
[08:45] <olivier> Ok I've folled the !ati configuration, but with the ati.com driver I still have OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org I really don't see what's wrong
[08:45] <Lynoure> Bck14: Who _is_ yous ISP/upstream provider?
[08:45] <new> ardchoille
[08:45] <new> ty
[08:45] <Lynoure> s/yous/your
[08:45] <ardchoille> new you're welcome :)
[08:45] <new> ty ty ty
[08:45] <Bck14> Aol i think
[08:45] <ardchoille> new, :)
[08:45] <Bck14> tis sehr sucky
[08:45] <new> wow... ive been tryin this for 4 hrs
[08:45] <new> tyvm god blessu
[08:46] <zipper_> just re-installed ubuntu, followed the guide for installing the nvidia drivers just as i did last time, however, this time x wont start up after the nvidia-glx-configure. I open xorg.conf, only to find my nvidia geforce7900gt is being recognized as a ati radeon 700 series. Wtf?! (It didnt put in the right BusID though, 0:5:0 instead of 4:0:0)
[08:46] <ardchoille> new, Have fun :)
[08:46] <null> Hello. I just destroyed my MBR by installing Windows. Now I booted up with the LiveCD, rerun grub and installed it to the mbr... after rebooting I get the grub shell. When I type 'configfile /grub/menu.lst' it boots Ubuntu... Why doesn't it use the menu.lst by default?
[08:46] <SurfnKid> Bck14: just use those 2 dns servers
[08:46] <klm-> is there a way to force kill an application?
[08:46] <SurfnKid> restart your network and give it a go
[08:46] <zipper_> klm-, kill -9 PID
[08:46] <DBO> klm-, killall appname
[08:46] <klm-> ok, thanks both
[08:46] <zipper_> klm-, ex : kill -9 1233
[08:46] <Bck14> SurfnKid: are they public ones?
[08:46] <DBO> save the -9 untill you really need it ;-)
[08:47] <wackawacka> klm, or add the Force Quit menu item to your GNOME toolbar
[08:47] <zipper_> well, he did say force kill :P
[08:47] <SurfnKid> well its RoadRunners
[08:47] <linux_user400354> does edubuntu use gnome or kde?
[08:47] <olivier> nobody can tell me why I have Mesa insteed of ATI ?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> AOL/TimeWarner/RoadRunner same shizza
[08:47] <Bck14> ok
[08:47] <DBO> zipper_, yes yes yes, but lets not get people addicted to that oh so wonderful method of... /me kill -9's the world
[08:47] <zipper_> DBO, i know, sorry =/
[08:47] <SurfnKid> olivier: did you reconfigure the xserver after installing it
[08:48] <olivier> SurfnKid, yes
[08:48] <SurfnKid> olivier: and chose fglrx
[08:48] <olivier> SurfnKid, yes
[08:48] <SurfnKid> mmm
[08:48] <olivier> I use fglrx on xorg.conf
[08:48] <DBO> zipper_, O_o, no no, you're good, just warn them next time that a kill -9 can be very dangerous if used improperly
[08:48] <olivier> SurfnKid, and follow the doc
[08:48] <darkseed> hey guys i need a list of good reposotoerys for 6.06
[08:48] <DBO> !repos
[08:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:48] <Ackeubu_> how do i check group permissions for folders?
[08:48] <darkseed> cant find libxine extra codecs
[08:49] <DBO> ls -l Ackeubu_
[08:49] <SurfnKid> olivier: what does  'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver return
[08:49] <Ackeubu_> dbc ty, but that shows that only ackeubu has permissions, and I think others have permission to that folder too?!
[08:49] <olivier> SurfnKid, I pastbin it
[08:50] <SurfnKid> did you, i didnt see it
[08:50] <DBO> Ackeubu_, you need to learn how to read the permissions I think
[08:50] <DBO> Ackeubu_, check out the link ubotu sent you
[08:51] <kaienne> hi
[08:51] <zipper_> just re-installed ubuntu, followed the guide for installing the nvidia drivers just as i did last time, however, this time x wont start up after the nvidia-glx-configure. I open xorg.conf, only to find my nvidia geforce7900gt is being recognized as a ati radeon 700 series. Wtf?! (It didnt put in the right BusID though, 0:5:0 instead of 4:0:0). Sorry to ask again, but are there anyone who has the slightest idea about how this could've happe
[08:51] <zipper_> never experienced anything like that before
[08:51] <jemt> Can someone help me install the Flash Player for Ubuntu? I've installed 'flashplugin-nonfree', but it still dosn't work. Running Dapper
[08:52] <olivier> SurfnKid, I have 2 Device section one with ATI and one with fglrx :/ and I do an dpkg-configure I suppose I have to delete the 1st one ?
[08:52] <SurfnKid> zipper_: the experts are sleeping come back in a bit if no one answers now they might shine some light
[08:52] <jrib> zipper_: what guide did you follow?
[08:52] <jemt> !flashplayer
[08:52] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jemt
[08:52] <zipper_> jrib, the howto on the ubuntu wiki
[08:52] <jrib> jemt: did you upgrade from breezy or is this a fresh dapper install?
[08:52] <SurfnKid> olivier: PM the result of  grep
[08:52] <thomasM> !flash
[08:52] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:52] <olivier> SurfnKid, http://pastebin.com/716943
[08:52] <jemt> jrib: Fresh install
[08:52] <SurfnKid> k
[08:53] <jemt> ubotu: Thanks
[08:53] <ubotu> bitte, jemt
[08:53] <omodo> where can I find the X definitions of the default Monospace font?
[08:53] <jrib> jemt: try running: sudo update-flashplugin
[08:53] <Ackeubu_> DBG yeah but .. I get a messge when i loggin that the file .dmrc needs to have 644 and only owned by the user. and i have set the permissions to 644 but I am not sure if root has some ownership to that file. without that file. it says it cant store desctop layout between sessions
[08:53] <jemt> jrib: Ok :)
[08:53] <jemt> jrib: Sec
[08:53] <omodo> s/definitions/definition/
[08:53] <SurfnKid> olivier: what does fglrxinfo say
[08:54] <jemt> jrib: "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[08:54] <SurfnKid> olivier: mesa
[08:54] <Ackeubu_> DBC did you see my prev message?
[08:54] <jrib> jemt: adobe's download link may be messed up again, can you go to the flash site and try to manually download the tar.gz?
[08:54] <olivier> SurfnKid, yes mesa http://pastebin.com/716948
[08:55] <jemt> jrib: Sure, I'll do that
[08:55] <jemt> jrib: Does it contain a .deb ?
[08:55] <jrib> zipper_: that's pretty weird, try running that nvidia-glx... command again
[08:55] <SurfnKid> olivier: ok so the system hasnt kicked in with the right driver
[08:55] <kevor> Hi, in Add a printer, thjere are no manufacturars, the list is empty, am i missing some files?
[08:55] <jrib> jemt: nope, just a tar.gz of some files, we can use the update-flashplugin command to install from it though
[08:55] <jemt> jrib: Oh can I pass the file to the program ?
[08:55] <olivier> SurfnKid, so I have to remove some Sections on my xorg.conf ?
[08:55] <jrib> jemt: yes
[08:55] <jemt> jrib: Ah, ok :)
[08:56] <SurfnKid> olivier: um no, but when you reconfigure it, you choose ati or fglrx
[08:56] <ardchoille> jemt, this worked for me: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/plugins/
[08:56] <olivier> SurfnKid, fglrx
[08:56] <jemt> ardchoille: Thanks, trying jrib's solution first :)
[08:56] <olivier> SurfnKid, I ll past you my xorg.conf
[08:56] <SurfnKid> olivier: yes plz
[08:56] <ardchoille> jemt, ok :)
[08:57] <jrib> jemt: syntax is: sudo update-flashplugin -l /path/to/directory_containing_the_tar.gz
[08:57] <SurfnKid> olivier: im running a 9600 ATI 128MB M10 card and it runs fine with ATI 8.25v driver
[08:57] <jemt> jrib: Oh my.. I'm downloading at 0.6 kb/s. Adobe obviously got som server issues
[08:58] <NKR> hi all
[08:58] <olivier> SurfnKid, hum strange
[08:58] <ardchoille> NKR, hi
[08:58] <zipper_> jrib, already tried it, didnt help. Still get the same old xorg.conf. The DRI module isnt disabled either, since it thinks my nvidia card is an ati card
[08:58] <olivier> SurfnKid, here is the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/716957
[08:58] <jrib> jemt: I'm going to go watch the game now, but that should work for you, gl
[08:58] <NKR> anyone know if there's a plugin for XMMS which provides a similar function to winamp's media library?
[08:58] <jemt> jrib: Well, it should be down in about 20-25 minuts. All I need to do is run 'update-flashplugin --local-file <tar-file>' afterwards, right ?
[08:58] <zipper_> jrib, perhaps it has something to do with me having 2 monitors connected to the same card... been known to mess up stuff in the past
[08:58] <SurfnKid> olivier: ok im starting up my laptop so i can look at that gime a sec
[08:58] <jemt> jrib: Thanks! :)
[08:59] <olivier> SurfnKid, ok no problem thanks
[08:59] <jrib> zipper_: yeah haven't really seen this before.  Maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosing nvidia yourself
[08:59] <Bassetts> is there a gui for cron?
[08:59] <fluxbox> Hey guys know any way to make a key for example access a file eg "/usr/bin/3ddesk" As im using Fluxbox for my window manager so through console would be great if anyone knows the command
[09:00] <olivier> SurfnKid, there is something I can't understand it's why dpkg-reconfigure give me 2 Device section insteed of 1 ? and it made a xorg.conf.2006etc... backup file
[09:00] <Mattsta> does anyone know how i can download music like with Limewire or something like that
[09:00] <olivier> SurfnKid, proof I do it :)
[09:00] <SurfnKid> olivier:  does it ask you twice?
[09:00] <olivier> SurfnKid, no
[09:00] <MenZa> Mattsta: Limewire :P
[09:00] <Mattsta> limewire works in ubuntu?
[09:00] <olivier> SurfnKid, it doesn't suppose to merge the file ?
[09:01] <dr_willis> Hmm,, anyone else have issues sunce the last kernel update?
[09:01] <MenZa> Mattsta: crossplatform.
[09:01] <dr_willis> System aint booting right.. going to busybox.
[09:01] <dr_willis> which seems... weird.
[09:01] <SurfnKid> olivier: not that i know of
[09:01] <chaitu> Mattsta, yea if Sun Java is installed though
[09:01] <Bassetts> is there a gui for cron?
[09:01] <Mattsta> how do i do that
[09:01] <SurfnKid> olivier: there should be only an fglrx and no ati
[09:01] <Siriuskr> Does anyone know of a good wireless program i need something that auto reconnects after a disconnect, or at least checks to see if its connected every once in a while ??????????
[09:01] <MenZa> Mattsta: no, Limewire is Cross-platform.
[09:01] <zipper_> jrib, might as well re-install with only my monitor connected. Who knows what else has been screwed up? On a sidenote, how is it possible to enable SMP during installation? I have an intel d805 dualcore i wanna take full advantage of, and the installer automaticly installs a 386 kernel apparently without smp.
[09:01] <olivier> SurfnKid, so I can delete the ati one isn't it ?
[09:02] <Mattsta> ooo ok
[09:02] <SurfnKid> olivier: let me paste you my xorg and see what is double, but yeah I only have Driver " fglrx"
[09:02] <SurfnKid> olivier:  and no ati at all
[09:02] <SurfnKid> olivier: you should only have one
[09:03] <olivier> SurfnKid, ok I'll do a copy of yours backup of mine and I try delete the section
[09:03] <SurfnKid> ok
[09:03] <SurfnKid> what card is it you got
[09:03] <rayston> anyone know a good IDE for C++ on Gnome?
[09:03] <olivier> SurfnKid, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP] 
[09:03] <raptros-v76> rayston: anjuta
[09:04] <ardchoille> rayston, Anjuta
[09:04] <SurfnKid> olivier: does the ATI page support it for ubuntu
[09:04] <null> Hello. I just destroyed my MBR by installing Windows. Now I booted up with the LiveCD, rerun grub and installed it to the mbr... after rebooting I get the grub shell. When I type 'configfile /grub/menu.lst' it boots Ubuntu... Why doesn't it use the menu.lst by default?
[09:04] <olivier> SurfnKid, I haven't check
[09:04] <rayston> thanx much guys
[09:04] <SurfnKid> let me get you that page
[09:05] <LeaChim> null, normally it's held at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:05] <olivier> SurfnKid, you have pastbin your xorg.conf ?
[09:05] <raptros-v76> null: you want /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:05] <null> ok
[09:05] <SurfnKid> olivier: pastebin.com/716967
[09:05] <olivier> SurfnKid, thanks
[09:05] <null> raptros-v76: well I think I have a symlink like boot -> .
[09:05] <ardchoille> null, did you type /grub/menu.lst or /boot/grub/menu.lst (notice the diff paths) ?
[09:05] <Mattsta> how do i intall it
[09:06] <Siriuskr> Does anyone know of a good wireless program i need something that auto reconnects after a disconnect, or at least checks to see if its connected every once in a while ??????????
[09:06] <Bassetts> is there a gui for cron?
[09:06] <null> to all: got the problem ;)
[09:06] <ardchoille> null, was menu.lst not where it should have been?
[09:06] <null> yes
[09:06] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[09:06] <olivier> SurfnKid, ok I try
[09:06] <Mattsta> how do i install limewire
[09:07] <omodo> am I mistaken, or does the Gnome anti-aliasing not working for X?
[09:07] <omodo> I'm using Emacs, and the font is not anti-aliased.
[09:07] <NET||abuse> hi all. i have a quick question aout starting my network with encryption
[09:07] <billybennett> how can I turn off the window animations?
[09:08] <NET||abuse> reading the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#head-4a3bf7f2ad33f5a02c8bb4f0ca4a74c9b884a841 article. but i'm up to the wpa_supplicant part,, it doesn't detail much
[09:08] <NET||abuse> i can iwlist eth0 scan and see my network... so i just need to connect with the wpa-aes encryiption key
[09:08] <NET||abuse> what command??
[09:08] <fluxbox> Hey guys know any way to make a key for example access a file eg "/usr/bin/3ddesk" As im using Fluxbox for my window manager so through console would be great if anyone knows the command
[09:09] <SurfnKid> France goal 1 - 0 Korea
[09:09] <billybennett> Does anyone know how I can turn off the windows animations?  Ever since I did an update it seems likes its lagging when I open things
[09:09] <mooomin> henry
[09:10] <SurfnKid> fluxbox: ive been trying to do the same but i really dont know how to. You want to do i.e a F11 key or something?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: please talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <kaienne> hey! do you know how to change the user in the shell to root?
[09:10] <Mattsta> i dont know how to install programs on here
[09:10] <ardchoille> fluxbox, why not put 3ddesk in your startfile?
[09:10] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak: k
[09:10] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: the soccer game i mean
[09:10] <zipper_> how is it possible to enable SMP during installation? I have an intel d805 dualcore i wanna take full advantage of, and the installer automaticly installs a 386 kernel, apparently without smp enabled.
[09:10] <SurfnKid> k
[09:10] <BumfunMC> hello
[09:10] <voyage34> Hi all. does anyone know how to enable iP Fowarding? When I use this command: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward I get a permission denied message
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mattsta -about install
[09:11] <fluxbox> SurfnKid: Yea i'd like F2 to run /usr/bin/3desk and ardchoille Its because you need to run it to bring the desktops back up so like press F2 and it brings it up in 3d
[09:11] <zipper_> !smp
[09:11] <ubotu> hmm... smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[09:11] <BumfunMC> Can anyone help me with webcams?????
[09:12] <ardchoille> fluxbox, what I was saying is you can put 3ddesk in your startfile so it runs when fluxbox starts
[09:12] <SurfnKid> fluxbox: yes i know what ya mean, i havent been able to do that. Id like to have F5 and F6 to left/right 3D but I cant find a way to shortcut each key
[09:13] <BumfunMC> I need help with my webcam!! please
[09:13] <JDahl> BumfunMC: what's wrong with your webcam?  you need to be more specific
[09:13] <fluxbox> SurfnKid: Exactly, Very similar to what i need
[09:13] <SurfnKid> fluxbox: no one helped, so i gave up
[09:14] <SurfnKid> fluxbox: but i know ther's a way
[09:15] <NET||abuse> so can anyone help me with commands for connecting to my network,, have my bcm43xx driver working, i can see the 3 networks with an iwlist scan
[09:15] <BumfunMC> JDahl when i connect it i can see that ubuntu notices that in the log files. but when i test it with gnome meeting for ex the computer crashes
[09:15] <NET||abuse> so what do i do to just set the wpa encryiption?
[09:15] <BumfunMC> dont i need to install a driver?
[09:15] <JDahl> BumfunMC: what does dmesg tell you?  try to look here for kernel driver support: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Webcams
[09:16] <wBryce> Anyone know how usb mass storage devices are supposed to work now? It used to be that you could mount /dev/sda1 or some such. Now the devices are no longer in /dev.
[09:16] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: can you drop down the SSID in network-admin wlan0 section?
[09:16] <kevin> wBryce, I just plug mine in
[09:17] <NET||abuse> SurfnKid, umm, in network-admin... i can't see the device (it's installed itself as eth0
[09:17] <wBryce> I've tried that. I'm running Dapper AMD64 or Breezy 32 bit.
[09:17] <JDahl> wBryce: they should get mounted automatically under /media, but otherwise mount works like it always did
[09:18] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: ok so its installed it as eth0 then
[09:18] <wBryce> The devices are not in /dev so they can't be manually mounted.
[09:19] <wackawacka> NET||abuse, have you checked the man pages for iwconfig?
[09:19] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: set the SSID in your /etc/network/interfaces section  at the bottom add this 'wireless-essid <ssid>'
[09:19] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: wireless_mode managed
[09:19] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: auto eth0
[09:20] <SurfnKid> and replace <ssid> with your preferred SSID
[09:20] <czer323> !networkmanager
[09:20] <ubotu> networkmanager is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[09:20] <Ackeubu_> I need a piano synth application do you know of any?
[09:21] <jemt> Can someone help me install Flash Player using 'update-flashplugin --local-file <tar.gz file>' ? I get this error : ' cp: cannot stat `Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz': No such file or directory '
[09:21] <cappiz> someome here using dspam/clamav/postfix/mysql ?
[09:21] <jenda> A little OT - can someone help me with adding a language to a rosetta translation?
[09:21] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. It may break your system, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jemt -about flash
[09:22] <BumfunMC> JDahl what is dmesg please?
[09:22] <squiggly> ubotu flash
[09:22] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <jenda> Yes, I am translating easyubuntu :)
[09:22] <jemt> gnomefreak: No help
[09:22] <tgm> hello
[09:22] <ardchoille> jemt, is your path correct?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> jemt: you dont need a tar there is a bin from flash site
[09:22] <tgm> i was wondering if someone could give me some help with a networking problem i have
[09:22] <jemt> ardchoille: Yes, I'm using <tab> to complete the path
[09:23] <eruantalon> Has anyone gotten xgl to work in Ubuntu?
[09:23] <ardchoille> jemt, ah, ok
[09:23] <SurfnKid> tgm: what up?
[09:23] <jemt> gnomefreak: That's the program I'm using.
[09:23] <jemt> gnomefreak: But it fails the download from Adobe
[09:23] <tgm> with the dapper live cd i can connect to the internet but after install i can't...
[09:23] <JDahl> BumfunMC: you type "dmesg" in a terminal and look for things related video, e.g., something about USB webcam device added
[09:23] <gnomefreak> jemt: whats wrong with the ubuntu flash since it gets it from adobe anyway?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> eruantalon: #ubuntu-xgl most of them have
[09:24] <jemt> gnomefreak: What? Ubuntu flash?
[09:24] <[Ex0r] > gnomefreak, iirc, macromedia is part of adobe now
[09:24] <tgm> when i ifconfig i don't get a inet4 address only an inet6
[09:24] <gnomefreak> jemt: if you read the page i sent you
[09:24] <rverrips> Hiyee - Strange thing in Xubuntu - I apt-get network-manager-gnome and it works great, but everytime I startup XFCE it loads nm-applet three times?  Any ideas' where to fix this?
[09:24] <ardchoille> jemt, Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz ? Sholdn't that be /home/user/Desktop/blah/blah ?
[09:24] <jemt> gnomefreak: flashplugin-nonfree fails downloading Flash from the Adobe server
[09:24] <gnomefreak> jemt: flashplugin-nonfree
[09:24] <gnomefreak> jemt: cd to desktop than run the tar command
[09:25] <tgm> surfnkid: did you catch that?
[09:25] <SurfnKid> tgm: yes, mm not sure why you're gettin ipv6 instead of ipv4
[09:25] <eruantalon> gnomefreak: thx
[09:26] <jemt> gnomefreak: 'flashplugin-nonfree' does not exist. Are you refering to 'update-flashplugin' ?
[09:26] <jemt> gnomefreak: "Run the tar command" ??
[09:26] <gnomefreak> jemt: flashplugin-nonfree is in multiverse repo
[09:26] <jemt> gnomefreak: I know! I've installed it. It dosn't work!
[09:26] <raiffhigor> Hello...!!!!!
[09:27] <jemt> gnomefreak: But you can pass a local file to the program
[09:27] <gnomefreak> jemt: did you run update-flashplugin?
[09:27] <jemt> gnomefreak: Yes
[09:27] <jemt> gnomefreak: Didn't work
[09:27] <jemt> gnomefreak: Now i'm trying 'update-flashplugin -l <local file>'
[09:27] <gnomefreak> jemt: are you using same ff that was installed be default or did you upgrade ff?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> s/be/by
[09:28] <raiffhigor> who knows where i can find the libx11-dev package?!?!!?!?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. my Old reliable Ubuntu Warty Fileserver suddendly stop resoloving the hostnames for sites .. it can ping their ip #'s and i can ssh to it.
[09:28] <raiffhigor> i have to install it in my Ubuntu...
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Not sure what to check next.
[09:28] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: apt-cache search libx
[09:28] <jemt> gnomefreak: And that also renders an error. The path is incorrect. I specify 'Desktop/file.tar.gz', it complains about the path and outputs: 'Desktop/file.tar.gz/file.tar.gz'
[09:29] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak and after..?!!?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: look int he list for that lib
[09:29] <David1> Hi every one
[09:29] <ardchoille> jemt, That's what I thought
[09:29] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: than sudo apt-get install it
[09:29] <rverrips> Hi David1
[09:29] <jemt> ardchoille: Yea :)
[09:29] <jemt> ardchoille: Btw, I tried specifying an absolute path - didn't help either
[09:30] <David1> I just upgraded to 6.06, and now Gnome fails to start
[09:30] <ardchoille> jemt, what is the exact command you used?
[09:30] <ardchoille> jemt, are you trying to untar it?
[09:30] <iLLf8d> woa lotsa pps here
[09:30] <omodo> anyone knows what's the package name for Arch?
[09:30] <ceL_> i installed ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake and i was following some setups for nvidia chipset cards on getting xgl to work but i can't get it to install the 'nvidia' module for Xorg it just keeps the 'nv' module i didn't kow if i was doing somethng wrong?
[09:30] <dli_> David1, can you startx ?
[09:31] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak i didn't find it...
[09:31] <omodo> (GNU/Arch, the SCM)
[09:31] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: howd it go
[09:31] <iLLf8d> hi all
[09:31] <NET||abuse> right, i can see the network in network-admin
[09:31] <ardchoille> iLLf8d, hi
[09:31] <NET||abuse> i click to connect,, it comes up with wpa Personal encrypition
[09:31] <NET||abuse> i put in the key, it just doesn't connect
[09:31] <iLLf8d> how goes it ardchoille
[09:31] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: so i has a package with name libx11-dev_6.2.1+cvs.20050722-8_i386.deb
[09:31] <NET||abuse> sits there swirling round up in top right.. doesn't get connection
[09:31] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: how can i install it!?!!?
[09:32] <ardchoille> iLLf8d, good here. and you?
[09:32] <iLLf8d> ok trying to get going today, seems procrastination is in the air tho
[09:32] <David1> yes, and when I do, I can get the gnome splash screen, but thene it just gose away, and all that is left is the cursur
[09:32] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: do you know!?!?!
[09:32] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: Im not sure about wpa/wep.  you can add 'wireless_key XXXXXXXX...'  in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:32] <jemt> ardchoille: Sec :)
[09:32] <SurfnKid> NET||abuse: see if itll work
[09:32] <David1> the wall paper loads as well, but nothing els visable
[09:33] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: ??!?!?!
[09:33] <jemt> ardchoille: "update-flashplugin --local-file /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz"   <--- That outputs : 'cp: cannot stat `/home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz': Not a directory
[09:33] <jemt> cannot copy local file: /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz'
[09:33] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: are you there?!!?!?
[09:34] <lonegeek> whats a non destructive partitioner?
[09:34] <htg_> I'll think about it
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  gparted can do that.
[09:34] <lonegeek> gparted?
[09:34] <lonegeek> ok
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek,  i tend to use live cds with gparted
[09:34] <ardchoille> jemt, can you see the error in this path?  /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[09:34] <krazykit> lonegeek: depends on what filesystems you're messing with.  most linux-based filesystems would be fine, but ntfs-resize can be risky
[09:34] <lonegeek> Dr_Willis what is a filesystem linux and windows can use
[09:34] <ardchoille> jemt, should that be:  /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[09:34] <krazykit> lonegeek: fat32
[09:35] <lonegeek> thank you
[09:35] <pngwen> I am trying to setup a complex NAT Scheme.  I have 2 ISP's with 2 external IP addresses.  I also have 2 default routes.  The problem is that when I have a packet that undergoes NAT on the secondary incoming interface, linux tends to want to send it out the primary connection.  How can i force it to select the correct gateway?
[09:35] <David1> dli_, you there?
[09:35] <jemt> ardchoille: I agree. I don't understand it
[09:35] <Niomi> hello all -- is there a way to use the fasttrack p2p network on linux?
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> lonegeek, fat32. however you can set up Linux tio read NTFS, and you can set up windows to read/write to Ext2/3 (with a few little issues)
[09:35] <Siriuskr> Hey if i reinstall windows on another partition will that mess up my grub?
[09:35] <raiffhigor> who know how can i install the package libx11-dev_6.2.1+cvs.20050722-8_i386.deb
[09:35] <dli> David1, yes
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> Siriuskr,  most likely yes.
[09:35] <krazykit> Siriuskr: if they're on the same hard drive, yes.
[09:35] <raiffhigor> *knows
[09:35] <steveire> I can't find skype in seveas packages
[09:35] <David1> well I can startx
[09:35] <dli> David1, so, a gnome problem
[09:35] <lonegeek> krazykit, well i have about 16gb free space on a ntfs partition that i want to make fat 32.....then i wanna dump music to that...and add more to the 16gb from freespace
[09:35] <MikkelRev> Anyone tell me how to add support for norwegian characters? they dont show in IRC or in FireFox
[09:35] <steveire> How do I install skype?
[09:35] <David1> ya
[09:35] <ardchoille> jemt, it looks like you're doubling part of the path. try typing it out.
[09:36] <dli> David1, I wonder whether you can do a fresh ubuntu-desktop?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[09:36] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:36] <Siriuskr> dr_willis,krazykit is there a way not to mess it up
[09:36] <jemt> ardchoille: I can't do anything wrong. I'm auto-completing the path using TAB. There is no way the path can be incorrect
[09:36] <David1> sould I reinstall it
[09:36] <omodo> btw, the working GNU/Arch is apt-get install tla
[09:37] <omodo> if anyone's interested
[09:37] <krazykit> lonegeek: that's uh, a lot of messing with ntfs drives.  you SHOULD be ok doing that, but do be aware that ntfs-resize is not considered the safest things to do.  i think parition magic would do it "safely", but i don't know if you're willing to buy it.
[09:37] <steveire> Dr_Willis: I enabled the seveas repo and skype is not there.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Siriuskr,   it pays to learn all about gryub. :P ya could backit up to floppy i guess and then rerun the grub installer. is one way .. not sure how to force XP to not mess withit.
[09:37] <ardchoille> jemt, the it looks like you created a folder named  /install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/ inside the Desktop folder
[09:37] <v-mack> siriuskr
[09:37] <dli> David1, logout gnome (just in case), cd to your user home, mv away .gconf* .gnome*
[09:37] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: what version of ubuntu?
[09:37] <v-mack> it's very tough to make xp not be hda1
[09:38] <lonegeek> krazykit: maybe i have it ...but well...i dont want to boot windows :D..... and last i checked it quit working right
[09:38] <jemt> ardchoille: Yes, but I havn't
[09:38] <v-mack> like, it has to be on top
[09:38] <krazykit> v-mack: not true.  i had xp on hd3 no problems
[09:38] <v-mack> really, i never could make that happen
[09:38] <raiffhigor> 5.10
[09:38] <grimboy> v-mack, what's the problem with that?
[09:38] <steveire> Dr_Willis: Any ideas?
[09:38] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: 5.10
[09:38] <krazykit> lonewolff: understandable.  it's often safe to do, but do know there is a chance of data loss.
[09:39] <v-mack> i don't have any problem with that, i was trying to help siriuskr
[09:39] <ardchoille> jemt, copy and paste the path instead of tab completion:  /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[09:39] <lonewolff> krazykit: huh?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: the package name on dapper is libx11-dev  im assuming its same on breezy
[09:39] <krazykit> lonewolff: gah, two lone* people ;-)
[09:39] <jemt> ardchoille: Sorry, I'm not a total newbie - the path IS correct :)
[09:39] <mlzs> !tell mlzs about ati
[09:39] <v-mack> lol, lone*, not unlike spaceballs?
[09:39] <David1> ok done
[09:40] <gnomefreak> !info libx11-dev breezy
[09:40] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: but how can i install it ..?!?!?
[09:40] <ardchoille> jemt, this path is *not* correct:  /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[09:40] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i'm new in linux...
[09:40] <dli> David1, try to login to gnome again
[09:40] <ubotu> libx11-dev: (X11 client-side library (development headers)), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1:6.2.1+cvs.20050722-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 1091 kB, Installed size: 2352 kB
[09:40] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[09:40] <ardchoille> jemt, it should be:  /home/jemt/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[09:40] <lonegeek> hey in gparted...all partitions have locks on them! do i have to unmount first?
[09:40] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: wait a minute... i'll try...i'll return to say the result...
[09:40] <jemt> ardchoille: I know! But that's what the program outputs. I don't specify that path
[09:40] <krazykit> lonegeek: yep
[09:41] <David1> should I go through gdm of startx
[09:41] <ardchoille> jemt, you have the /install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz in the path twice and it shouldn't be
[09:41] <krazykit> lonegeek: it's a really bad idea to partition an active drive ;-)
[09:41] <mattl> epiphany *keeps* crashing on Dapper... I can't find a log file for it either. Can anyone help?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: its the package name on breezy and dapper if you cant install it than something is wrong with your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:41] <lonegeek> krazykit: its unmounted..but i have no options to resize...they are greyed out....
[09:41] <ardchoille> jemt, ok, well it's wrong.. that's why it isn't working. Type the path without tab completion or you will have the problem forever.
[09:41] <jemt> ardchoille: I know - it is a bug - I'm not doing anything wrong :)
[09:42] <mattl> lonegeek: what kind of partition are you trying to resize?
[09:42] <lonegeek> mattl ntfs
[09:42] <krazykit> lonegeek: nothing on the drive is mounted?  not even swap?
[09:42] <jemt> ardchoille: Tried that, no luck
[09:42] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i receive the message its impossible to find libx11-...
[09:42] <ardchoille> jemt, paste the command you typed out
[09:42] <lonegeek> krazykit: its windows hard drive... /dev/hda1
[09:42] <jemt> ardchoille: I did that 5 minutes ago. I havn't changed since that
[09:42] <lonegeek> im just going to boot to windows.....
[09:42] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i have to put the package in specific location?!!??
[09:42] <BumfunMC> JDahl are you there?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file contents to pastebin please
[09:43] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: no
[09:43] <ardchoille> jemt, then you have an incorrect path. I showed you how to fix it
[09:43] <krazykit> lonegeek: yeah, but you should really unmount everything on hda.  that's why it's recommended to use a liveCD
[09:43] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i didn't understand....(paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file contents to pastebin please)
[09:43] <raiffhigor> okok..
[09:43] <JDahl> BumfunMC: sorry, was busy
[09:43] <raiffhigor> i understand now...
[09:43] <kbrooks> Yay.
[09:43] <raiffhigor> wait a minut...
[09:43] <raiffhigor> minute...
[09:43] <steveire> skype?
[09:44] <ardchoille> kbrooks, hi
[09:44] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   when the file opens paste it on the site ill have ubotu send you
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell raiffhigor -about pastebin
[09:45] <Lynoure> steveire: you can isntall it with easyubuntu or manually from the skype site
[09:45] <BumfunMC> dmesg doesnt say anything like "usb added"
[09:45] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: once pasted click send and give me the link it gives you  (and keep your /etc/apt/sources.list file open please
[09:45] <ardchoille> raiffhigor, http://raiffhigor.com ;)
[09:45] <ardchoille> raiffhigor, http://raiffhigor.pastebin.com  , sorry
[09:45] <BumfunMC> except [4294678.061000]  usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
[09:45] <BumfunMC> [4294678.061000]  usbcore: registered new driver hub
[09:45] <BumfunMC> [4294678.132000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[09:45] <BumfunMC> [4294678.133000]  hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[09:45] <BumfunMC> [4294678.133000]  hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[09:46] <raiffhigor> wait a minute please...
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell BumfunMC -about pastebin
[09:46] <raiffhigor> so see if it correct...
[09:46] <mooseman447> hey
[09:46] <jemt> In what path is Mozilla Firefox installed ?
[09:46] <raiffhigor> i get the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:46] <raiffhigor> 
[09:46] <raiffhigor> and i past in /bin...
[09:46] <raiffhigor> its correct?!?!
[09:46] <linux_user400354> does the commercial nvidia driver support the nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]  video card???
[09:46] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: paste the contents of it on pastebin the site is in your pm
[09:46] <kbrooks> ardchoille: hi
[09:46] <David1> ok I tryed to log on from gdm, but it is just hanging
[09:46] <xnix> jemt /usr/bin/firefox
[09:47] <jemt> xnix: Thanks :)
[09:47] <xnix> jemt np
[09:47] <ardchoille> raiffhigor, no, go to http://pastebin.com and paste it there
[09:47] <JDahl> BumfunMC: try to plug in your webcam again and see what is appended to the dmesg output - if there's nothing about your webcam there, then it's probably not supported by the linux kernel, and there's not much you can do
[09:47] <mooseman447> anybody know why ubuntu stops accepting connections of a ton of them like when i transferred like 20gigs to it with a bunch of connections then i cant connect to it until i reboot it manually
[09:47] <raiffhigor> ok ok...
[09:48] <David1> as a normal user I kan't seam to startx
[09:48] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: after you click send give me the link please
[09:48] <Jimmey__> David1: What error messages are you getting?
[09:48] <jemt> xnix: So if I need to speficy the path to the folder that contains the Mozilla installations, it is just /usr/bin, right ?  (I'm installing Flash Player manually)
[09:49] <ardchoille> jemt, for future referrence, you can find a path using the appname after the which command: ex. which firefox
[09:49] <kaizoku_> help
[09:49] <kaizoku_> *hellp
[09:49] <gnomefreak> kaizoku_: cant
[09:49] <maikol> everytime i try installing something through apt-get or aptitude it tries to remove my runnin gkernel
[09:49] <kaizoku_> *hello
[09:49] <jemt> ardchoille: Oh, nice. THanks :)
[09:49] <kaizoku_> sorry
[09:49] <xnix> jemt just /usr
[09:49] <Jimmey__> kaizoku_: What's the problem
[09:49] <jemt> xnix: Ok, thanks
[09:49] <gnomefreak> kaizoku_: we need to know the issue
[09:49] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak ... and now..
[09:49] <raiffhigor> ???
[09:49] <mooseman447> anybody know if linux has a connection limit or something?
[09:49] <ututo> how do i change my locales to all english if some of them are in spanish
[09:49] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: did you click send?
[09:49] <kaizoku_> I know, I didn't mean to say help
[09:49] <Jimmey__> maikol: to which kernel does it try to change?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: raiffhigor once you click send give me the link
[09:50] <maikol> Jimmey__ doesnt try to change kernles, just tries to remove it
[09:50] <kaizoku_> I am trying to reconfigure X11, but when I go into "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", there is no nvidia option
[09:50] <kaizoku_> just the NV drivers
[09:50] <Jimmey__> maikol: Can you pastebin the message that tells you this, please?
[09:50] <jemt> Hm, the Flash Player Installer does not agree. It dosn't accept /usr/  nor  /usr/bin/ ..
[09:50] <gnomefreak> kaizoku_: did you install nvidia-glx
[09:50] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i opened the site..
[09:50] <kaizoku_> oh, can I do that with apt-get?
[09:51] <maikol> Jimmey__ apt just says: pakages to be removed: kernel-image
[09:51] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: so and now what i have to do?!?!
[09:51] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: paste the contents of the file into the white space on the site
[09:51] <jrib> jemt: don't put a slash at the end
[09:51] <Jimmey__> maikol: And this happens when you try and apt-get...Anything?
[09:51] <mlzs> Hey
[09:51] <jemt> jrib: Ah, ok - thanks
[09:51] <maikol> Jimmey__ yep
[09:51] <jemt> jrib: Didn't help much
[09:51] <mlzs> I am having trouble with getting my ATI card's 3d acceleration up.. Can anyone help?
[09:52] <gdb> Anyone here running on a Dell Optiplex GX620?
[09:52] <raiffhigor> ok and now?!?!!?
[09:52] <jemt> My God. It's impossible to get Flash running in Dapper >.<
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ututo: system>prefferences>launguage
[09:52] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: and now?!?!
[09:52] <gdb> Or any Dell Optiplex machine with the "Dell Business Internal Speaker"?
[09:52] <ututo> gnomefreak, is there another way
[09:52] <David1> when I startx as a user, there is no error, it just flashes the white/black wallpaper, with the X curser in the middle of the screan, then returns to the console. It dose say sompthing "refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing" It is about fonts
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ututo: i dont have gnome atm but its in prefferences or admin under system
[09:52] <pirast> jemt: whats the problem?
[09:52] <jrib> jemt: did that not work either?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: click send
[09:52] <jemt> jrib: Nope
[09:52] <ardchoille> jemt, no it isn't, it's quite easy with the Firefox plugin from the firefox site :)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: aftrer you click send give me thie new link
[09:52] <jrib> jemt: can you paste what you typed exactly?
[09:52] <raiffhigor> i have to fill another space?!!?
[09:52] <jemt> ardchoille: That fails too
[09:52] <pirast> jempt: works for me like a charm
[09:53] <pirast> jempt: i followed the howto on the ubuntu wiki
[09:53] <ardchoille> jemt, worked for me on 11 boxes
[09:53] <jemt> jrib: The flash installer just asked me to specify the path to the Mozilla Firefox installation
[09:53] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: did you copy and paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list onto the website?
[09:53] <mlzs> It simply will not work with the xorg-driver-fglrx package without more configuration, but I do not know how.
[09:53] <raiffhigor> yes...
[09:53] <jemt> jrib: sec
[09:53] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: click send
[09:53] <Stormx2> I installed beagle and deskbar, but I'm not getting the beagle live search on the deskbar! Why not? :(
[09:53] <raiffhigor> i clicked...
[09:54] <David1> is there any way I can just reinstall gnome
[09:54] <SurfnKid> time for a break bbl
[09:54] <raiffhigor> and now...
[09:54] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: now copy and paste the info in the address bar in here
[09:54] <ututo> gnomefreak, i am using a distribution that is all Free Software.  I do not see Language
[09:54] <linux_user400354> firefox is a virus
[09:54] <raiffhigor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15930
[09:54] <gnomefreak> ututo: what distro are you using?
[09:54] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: what you will do?!?!
[09:54] <jrib> Stormx2: you need python-beagle I think
[09:54] <MikkelRev> Need help! Anyone tell me how to add support for norwegian characters? they dont show in IRC or in FireFox
[09:54] <mlzs> Anyone?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> raflook at it give me a min
[09:54] <ututo> gnomefreak, I am using Ututo-XS
[09:54] <linux_user400354> what is a kernel interface? is it the same thing as the source code for the kernel?
[09:54] <dli> David1, you couldn't startx ?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> linux_user400354: if your not gonna be helpful than please go
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ututo: this is ubuntu support
[09:55] <ututo> gnomefreak, I understand but I felt it was a general question.
[09:55] <linux_user400354> gnomefreak, the correct word is then not than. did you learn anything in school?
[09:55] <pirast> jempt:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[09:55] <jrib> jemt: here I have the tar.gz in ~/MyDownloads/programs/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz and all I do is run: sudo update-flashplugin -l ~/MyDownloads/programs
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ututo: no its not try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <mlzs> -_-
[09:56] <kaizoku_> thanks for the help
[09:56] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: you still have the file open?
[09:56] <ardchoille> linux_user400354, be respectful or leave please
[09:56] <kaizoku_> !!
[09:56] <ubotu> kaizoku_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:56] <David1> I could, but only for a fraction of a secont, then it shuts down, whene I run it as root is starts up, and stays up, but dosn't fully start gnome
[09:56] <raiffhigor> yes...
[09:56] <kaizoku_> oh, that worked
[09:56] <kaizoku_> sorry
[09:56] <raiffhigor> yeah...
[09:56] <ututo> gnomefreak, ok
[09:56] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: you see the very first line that says deb cdrom?
[09:56] <mooseman447> please somebody help because i cant reboot every time i have a big ftp session
[09:56] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: put a # infront of it
[09:56] <raiffhigor> ok
[09:56] <gnomefreak> next get rid of the next line
[09:56] <raiffhigor> and now..?!!?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> the debian one
[09:57] <raiffhigor> ok
[09:57] <BumfunMC> JDahl the battery is flat at the moment sorry. in the log file the adding was written down
[09:57] <raiffhigor> ...
[09:57] <jemt> jrib: Ah!! There! I should only speficy the directory, not the file. And when I tryed specifying the path earlier, I specified a relative path, not the absolute. But it seems to work now. Thanks :D
[09:57] <BumfunMC> JDahl but thanks for your help :)
[09:57] <mlzs> brb
[09:57] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: the next 2 deb lines take the # away frmt hem
[09:57] <David1> infact it only gets to the splash screen once. then not again untill I reboot
[09:58] <raiffhigor> these # deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[09:58] <raiffhigor> # deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[09:58] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: one says deb http the other says deb-src
[09:58] <ardchoille> jemt, path was wrong this whole time?
[09:58] <raiffhigor> ok
[09:58] <gnomefreak> yes take the # away from those
[09:58] <raiffhigor> and now?!?!
[09:58] <winbond> how can i enter command mode before the xserver loads without running the recover mode???
[09:58] <raiffhigor> and now..?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: same with next 2 lines that start with deb
[09:58] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: calm down i have to type this
[09:58] <jemt> ardchoille: No, it was correct the whole time.
[09:59] <raiffhigor> ok sorry...
[09:59] <raiffhigor> ;)
[09:59] <winbond> how can i enter command mode before the xserver loads without running the recover mode???
[09:59] <raiffhigor> ok i did...
[09:59] <MetaMorfoziS> !cedega
[09:59] <ubotu> To install cedega please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[09:59] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: did you paste your list 2 times or do you have 2 of everything?
[09:59] <David1> winbond,,, you could just do CTl+ALT+F1 log on, and kill the X server
[09:59] <darkyoshi372> How do I change the image of the menu button in Gnome?
[09:59] <dli> David1, rm your ~/.dmrc
[09:59] <mlzs> mlzs@martin:~$ glxinfo | grep rendering >> direct rendering: No  || Please help \o/
[09:59] <MetaMorfoziS> cedega isn't free?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: no
[09:59] <David1> as root or as david?
[09:59] <jrib> mlzs: what kind of card do you have?
[09:59] <MetaMorfoziS> :(((
[09:59] <dli> David1, you need to locate the problem, a gnome problem or X problem
[09:59] <steveire> aptitude says there are two packages to upgrade, but it won't upgrade them
[09:59] <mlzs> jrattner1, 9800 XT  :)
[10:00] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i'm changing now...
[10:00] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: take the # away from the rest of the lines that start with the word deb
[10:00] <MetaMorfoziS> and from cvs? it's free?
[10:00] <raiffhigor> i never change this file before..
[10:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i read correctly it's free from cvs?
[10:00] <David1> ok so I should delete my /root/.dmrc?
[10:00] <dli> David1, console login, do, sudo -i
[10:00] <raiffhigor> ok
[10:00] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: yes you did
[10:00] <winbond> David1: when do i press that ? because my xserver crashes before it fets to login screen
[10:00] <dli> David1, remove ~/.dmrc, and test startx
[10:00] <paracelx> hi, somebody help me? I cant get nautilus to laod up when i log in, it just says ,"Natulis cannot be started because daemon sytem reset to much. Something like that.
[10:00] <MetaMorfoziS> is it correct cedega is free from cvs?
[10:00] <raiffhigor> ok and now?!!?!?
[10:01] <amarokker> can someone tell me why I am unable to see any traffic on eth0? http://rafb.net/paste/results/DL77XT94.html       <<<---- ifconfig -a
[10:01] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: no its 15 USD to use
[10:01] <darkyoshi372> MetaMorfoziS: I believe, but am not sure, that the CVS version is crippled so that you can't use it/
[10:01] <David1> sorry, so such file
[10:01] <NeoFax> MetaMorfoziS: Cedega is free from CVS.
[10:01] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: once all the # are away from the lines that start with deb EXCEPT the very first one click save and close it
[10:01] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ and usable? NeoFax
[10:01] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[10:02] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not see any pricing option
[10:02] <mlzs> jrib, Any idea what to do?
[10:02] <raiffhigor> ok i did and now!?!!?
[10:02] <NeoFax> MetaMorfoziS: Yes, you just do not have a vote as to what programs are targetted.
[10:02] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: once its closed in terminal type sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <darkyoshi372> Does anybody know how to change the image that the main menu button uses?
[10:02] <MetaMorfoziS> hmhm cool
[10:02] <linux_user400354> what is a kernel interface? why do i need to download one?
[10:02] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:02] <jrib> mlzs: have you been linked to the docs?
[10:02] <raiffhigor> one curiosity what is the sudo?!?!?!
[10:02] <jrib> ubotu: tell raiffhigor about sudo
[10:02] <gnomefreak> !sudo
[10:02] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:02] <NeoFax> i.e. I would really like CivCTP2 to work in Cedega, but I do not get a vote to say focus on that.
[10:02] <MetaMorfoziS> and anybody have halflife 2 working with cedege or any other ways?
[10:02] <mlzs> jrib, This guide >>http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#video-acceleration-introduction
[10:03] <paracelx> will the ubuntu cd restore nautilus if it want boot anymore?
[10:03] <amarokker> raiffhigor: sudo is an ubuntu-g0d. :)
[10:03] <krazykit> MetaMorfoziS: cedega support is at their forums.  i understand that half-life2 is one of their officially supported games.
[10:03] <MetaMorfoziS> okay NeoFaxthx:)
[10:03] <raiffhigor> but i had power of root...
[10:03] <David1> raiffhigor, sudo means superuser do, it alows a user to execute a command with superuser privlages
[10:03] <darkyoshi372> Does anybody know how to change the image that the main menu button uses?
[10:03] <MetaMorfoziS> krazykit: thx!:)
[10:03] <diablo`> How do i encrypt my partition in ubuntu ?
[10:03] <raiffhigor> anyone!?!!?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: does you terminal look like # or $
[10:04] <mlzs> jrib, So, have I got the wrong guide?
[10:04] <raiffhigor> no...
[10:04] <raiffhigor> downloading...
[10:04] <linux_user400354> what is a kernel interface? is it the same thing as the source code for the kernel?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: no what?
[10:04] <dli> David1, can you startx as root ?
[10:04] <paracelx> damn it nautilus, ill send you to hell then!
[10:04] <BioVorE> raiffhigor: sudo allows you to run things as root
[10:04] <David1> yes
[10:04] <krazykit> dli: you can, but you shouldn't.
[10:05] <raiffhigor> its not like this #
[10:05] <libdmb> diablo`: theres something in the wiki about it
[10:05] <abhijeet> does anyone know how to add ubuntu in mandriava grub menu
[10:05] <raiffhigor> is downloading
[10:05] <jrib> mlzs: other than the instructions for installing the ati driver there I don't know much about ati.  Those are the right docs to follow, maybe make sure every step went through alright one more time while you wait for someone more knowledgeable about ati
[10:05] <ardchoille> linux_user400354, there's no need to repeat your question every minute
[10:05] <David1> but gnome wont start
[10:05] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: if its $ than you need to use sudo
[10:05] <diablo`> libdmb: how does it called ?
[10:05] <raiffhigor> ok but...
[10:05] <libdmb> ill go look for it and provide link
[10:05] <gnomefreak> sudo gives you admin access
[10:05] <paracelx> thats it delting ubuntu and putting debian on the pos
[10:05] <BioVorE> raiffhigor: # <-- this is a root prompt
[10:05] <raiffhigor> any user can be "root"
[10:05] <mlzs> jrib, I ran the guide through three times, and nobody seems to want to help :|
[10:05] <linux_user400354> ardchoille, do you know the answer?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> no ra
[10:05] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: no
[10:06] <dli> David1, then, a gnome problem, rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* first (for user, not root), and apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[10:06] <steveire> The following packages have been kept back:
[10:06] <steveire>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:06] <David1> raiffhigor, you have to enter the root password first
[10:06] <libdmb> diablo`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[10:06] <gnomefreak> steveire: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:06] <libdmb> please note, thats its very complicated
[10:06] <raiffhigor> but if i'm root...
[10:06] <raiffhigor> is necessary to type sudo?!
[10:06] <paracelx> anyone else have a hard time with this system on a mac
[10:06] <steveire> gnomefreak: Won't that make me use edgy?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: read the link ubotu sent yuou
[10:06] <jrib> mlzs: when you reconfigured the xserver were you able to choose fglrx?
[10:06] <mlzs> jrib, Nope
[10:06] <gnomefreak> steveire: not if yopu didnt change your sources.list file
[10:06] <krazykit> raiffhigor: you shouldn't be running as root.
[10:06] <mlzs> I looked for that twice, yet found nothing
[10:06] <steveire> oh, sure, cheers
[10:07] <gnomefreak> steveire: or use the updater
[10:07] <raiffhigor> if i'm root i have to type sudo ??!!?
[10:07] <jrib> mlzs: does 'apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx' indicate that it is installed?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: when sudo apt-get update is done install what you are wanting
[10:07] <krazykit> raiffhigor: if you're running as root, which you shouldn't be, you don't need sudo
[10:07] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: read the link ubotu sent you it tells you all about it
[10:07] <mlzs> jrib, Yes
[10:07] <raiffhigor> ok
[10:07] <raiffhigor> thanks...
[10:07] <raiffhigor> hey gnomefreak...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: ?
[10:08] <raiffhigor> gnomefreak: i wont need to install that package that i mensioned before?!?!
[10:08] <David1> ak, it is done
[10:08] <samir85> hey, i just registered my first voip account and started using it with ekiga. Anyway I forgot my number, is there way to look it up ?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> raiffhigor: when the cammand you ran is done type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <gnomefreak> s/cammand/command
[10:09] <Eleaf> What is the most reccomendable virtualization software?
[10:09] <abhijeet> does anyone know how to add ubuntu in mandriava grub menu
[10:09] <Eleaf> qemu seems slow..
[10:09] <Eleaf> VMware is looking pretty 'corpretical' lol.
[10:09] <MetaMorfoziS> what is cvs password?
[10:10] <jrib> mlzs: ok check that linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) is installed as well
[10:10] <David1> should I startx?
[10:10] <raiffhigor> a program has presents me what are new...
[10:10] <mlzs> jrib, It is.
[10:10] <alex_velgue> hey, since i tried the kde desktop, the loading page when i start my computer is always that of kubuntu instead of ubuntu even though i always use gnome. Is there any way i can fix this
[10:10] <raiffhigor> i clicked to install...
[10:10] <raiffhigor> it makes the same effect?!?!
[10:11] <Eleaf> ...
[10:11] <dli> David1, gdm login
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> alex_velgue,  yes.. but i can never rember how.. since i disable that boot eye candy. :P
[10:11] <raiffhigor> it is installing ... the program showed that need 2h to finish ...
[10:11] <jrib> mlzs: not sure why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wouldn't give you it as a choice, have you tried doing it manually with the isntructions from wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:11] <Stormx2> Trying to install a game called Bang howdy! It just asked me this: Which Java Virtual Machine would you like to use? Note: the JVM must be version 1.5.0 or newer. <-- What should I put?
[10:11] <David1> dam, it is the same problem
[10:12] <mlzs> I am just looking at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25 guide now, jrattner1
[10:12] <mlzs> jrib, *
[10:12] <mlzs> jrattner1, Sorry, wrong person ;)
[10:12] <raiffhigor> ok gnomefreaks... thanks for the help...
[10:12] <garryfre> alex_velgue: Under logout choose end current session, then at the login screen click options and choose session and pick gnome.
[10:12] <raiffhigor> i has to study...
[10:12] <David1> is it just me, or dosn't ubuntu-desktop take more than 5 seconds to reinstall
[10:12] <linux_user400354> do i need a precompiled kernel interface for the commercial nvidia driver?
[10:12] <raiffhigor> i'll have some tests of math tomorrow i need to study..thanks...
[10:12] <dli> David1, did you do dist-upgrade ?
[10:13] <raiffhigor> *i have...
[10:13] <raiffhigor> thanks guys...
[10:13] <David1> no
[10:13] <David1> but right now that seams like a dam fine idea
[10:13] <alex_velgue> garryfre: Well I never  use the kde desktop and it's always gnome by default but the loading page with the progression bar stays kubuntu anyway
[10:13] <raiffhigor> in no long time... i'll be here to take my doubts away... ;)
[10:14] <assasukasse> hi all, how can i set laptop-mode to start by default?
[10:14] <mlzs> brb
[10:14] <garryfre> just follow hte steps I mention and you will see an option to make gnome the default.
[10:14] <alex_velgue> ok thanks
[10:15] <David1> ok actualy I think I did to it b4, because when I do it now, there are no packages to install
[10:15] <David1> *do
[10:17] <Chris_Tucker> whats a good command line or notification area app for taking a picture from /dev/video0 every XX seconds?
[10:17] <rtcm> I need to follow a program (with gdb) into glib and have installed the -dbg package, does anyone know how I can tell gdb about those file installed under /usr/lib/debug? I tried LD_LIBRARY_PATH but it doesn't work...
[10:17] <mlzs> Hey do I check for direct rendering?
[10:17] <mlzs> Ah, never mind
[10:18] <mlzs> direct rendering: No
[10:18] <David1> you there dil
[10:18] <ardchoille> mlowe, glxinfo | grep render
[10:19] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: long time no see!  Can I /msg you?
[10:19] <noiz777> hi there, does anyone here uses amarok?
[10:19] <ardchoille> HedgeMage, Hi!!
[10:19] <krazykit> noiz777: yes
[10:19] <ardchoille> HedgeMage, for you? anytime :)
[10:19] <codecaine> hey I see alot of these questions going around and I have the same one when you update ubuntu your xserver is broken then you have to install the new modules but mplayer never shows movies right again whys that?
[10:20] <codecaine> 2.6.15-25-386
[10:20] <krazykit> codecaine: using an intel graphics card?
[10:20] <codecaine> nvidia
[10:20] <krazykit> codecaine: ah, then i dunno ;-)
[10:20] <Stormx2> Anyone know anything about Bang Howdy here?
[10:20] <Mewshi> hi
[10:20] <noiz777> hey krazykit, has it ever happend to you that amarok just goes trugh your list but doesnt really play anything?
[10:20] <David1> you know what I am thinking, why dont I back up my importaint data, then reinstallth os from the installtion disk
[10:20] <codecaine> maybe because its a test
[10:20] <codecaine> one ill just uninstall it
[10:21] <codecaine> hopefully that works :P
[10:21] <krazykit> noiz777: no.  have you changed the place where your music is stored or the filenames at some point?
[10:21] <David1> am alredy downloading it (55%)
[10:21] <dli> David1, not needed, you messed up, just dist-upgrade
[10:21] <assasukasse> What does it means SPAN in a script?
[10:21] <noiz777> krazykit, i have one partition where i can share music, pics and that kid of stuff between win and ubuntu
[10:22] <David1> i did, but there is no dist left to upgrade
[10:22] <xne0x> yo
[10:22] <krazykit> noiz777: yeah, but as long as filenames aren't changed, it oughtn't mess up.
[10:22] <codecaine> how can you trace what you last update in update-manager?
[10:22] <abhijeet> is it ok to install kde-desktop in ubuntu
[10:22] <krazykit> abhijeet: it's better to install kubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <David1> abhijeet, yes
[10:23] <noiz777> krazykit, thats what i think...but for some reason songs dont play
[10:23] <David1> abhijeet, it is kalled kubuntu
[10:23] <krazykit> noiz777: is this reproducable?
[10:23] <abhijeet> but i want to use both gnome and kde, what I should do
[10:23] <krazykit> abhijeet: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <noiz777> krazykit, what do you mean??
[10:23] <krazykit> abhijeet: that will give you a full-featured kde desktop along with your gnome desktop
[10:24] <David1> abhijeet, open a council, and run alsamixer, thene make sure main and pci volumes are up, and not muted
[10:24] <krazykit> noiz777: like, is it any time you open up windows, then go back to linux that amarok will skip songs?
[10:24] <abhijeet> is there any problem of using kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu
[10:24] <Stormx2> App is asking me "Which Java Virtual Machine would you like to use?" what should I put?
[10:24] <krazykit> abhijeet: no, they co-exist peacefully
[10:25] <noiz777> no, its always, i havent even used windows for a few days now
[10:25] <Stormx2> noiz777: Whats the problem?
[10:25] <krazykit> noiz777: how do you fix it?  just throw the songs back into the playlist, or do you have to rebuild the database?
[10:25] <abhijeet> can anyone help me to edit grub
[10:25] <Stormx2> abhijeet Ya, sure.
[10:26] <abhijeet> i have installed mandriva using grub. i want to add ubuntu to its menu
[10:26] <abhijeet> i have installed mandriva using grub. i want to add ubuntu to its menu
[10:27] <noiz777> hmm well ive tried loading just one song or making play lists but nothing....Stormx2, the problem is that songs act as if they were going to be played but they immediatly go to the next song and so on
[10:27] <David1> abhijeet, you have to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:27] <Stormx2> noiz777: What media player are you using?
[10:27] <David1> i think
[10:27] <noiz777> Stormx2 amaroK
[10:27] <krazykit> noiz777: have you tried rebuilding the database?  tools->rebuild
[10:27] <David1> dli_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need you help
[10:28] <noiz777> krazykit, let me try
[10:28] <abhijeet> can you tell me what lines to be added
[10:28] <Stormx2> abhijeet: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list I *think*
[10:28] <dooglus> assasukasse: what kind of script?
[10:28] <ardchoille> bbl
[10:28] <Stormx2> noiz777: If its not that it can't find the files, its that it doesn't have a mp3 decoder
[10:28] <steveire> how do I find foo by searching directories recursively? find -R foo doesn't work
[10:28] <noiz777> Stormx2, sounds like it could be my problem...how do i check that?
[10:29] <David1> abhijeet, ok, if you tell me what drive ubuntu is installed an on where the kernel is located/named
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> Having USB problems. Any time I attach my digital camera it wouldn't come up. I figured it was the camera doing something funky so I bought a Lexar USB card reader thinking it'd fix the issue. Nope. Still getting errors. Seeing this from dmesg after inserting the device:
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192118.376000]  usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192118.496000]  usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192118.720000]  usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192118.936000]  usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192119.056000]  usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192119.280000]  usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192119.496000]  usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[10:29] <dli> David1, do you know how it messed up?
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192119.904000]  usb 3-1: device not accepting address 8, error -71
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192120.016000]  usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> [17192120.424000]  usb 3-1: device not accepting address 9, error -71
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> Anyone have any ideas?
[10:29] <AlienX> whoah HockeyStatman read the topic! Use pastebin!
[10:29] <tritium> HockeyStatman: don't paste.  Use pastebin in the future.
[10:29] <HockeyStatman> Sorry
[10:29] <Stormx2> Don't paste!
[10:30] <noiz777> krazykit, just rebuilt the DB but nothing :(
[10:30] <steveire> ls -Ra |grep linpw   works but doesn't show the directory...
[10:30] <abhijeet> after installation of mandriva i can't boot to ubuntu, pls tell what to add in grub in order to boot into ubuntu
[10:30] <Stormx2> !tell noiz777 about mp3
[10:30] <Stormx2> noiz777: Check your messages. Go to the wiki, make sure you have the right codecs and such.
[10:30] <steveire> any helpers out there?
[10:30] <valehru> hey guys,
[10:30] <noiz777> Stormx2, i actually play mp3s with my xmms
[10:30] <Dial_tone> how can I disable the prompts when I insert a blank disk?
[10:30] <valehru> has anyone got windows media player streaming content to work on AMD 64 Dapper yet?
[10:31] <Stormx2> noiz777: I have a feeling XMMS has mp3 support in-the-box, where as amaroK runs of gstreamer./
[10:31] <seriouslycgi> hi i have an easy question: how do i install .deb files i double click and it goes to archive manager
[10:31] <HockeyStatman> sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:31] <seriouslycgi> thanks HockeyStatman
[10:31] <Stormx2> seriouslycgi: In terminal, cd to the directory, then do sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:31] <valehru> seriouslycgi, sudo dpkg -i nameofapp.deb
[10:31] <valehru> oh well...slow typer
[10:31] <noiz777> Stromx2, ok let me try to make it work then
[10:31] <seriouslycgi> lol thanks everyone
[10:31] <Stormx2> ;)
[10:31] <abhijeet> after installation of mandriva i can't boot to ubuntu, pls tell what to add in grub in order to boot into ubuntu
[10:32] <dooglus> seriouslycgi: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[10:32] <HockeyStatman> Anyone have any comments on my question other than "don't paste" ??
[10:32] <valehru> so does has anyone got windows media player streaming content to work on AMD 64 Dapper yet??
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell valehru -about w32codecs
[10:32] <Dial_tone> abhijeet: grub.conf already has examples in it. just work from there
[10:32] <farous> what is the default application to play audio cds ?
[10:32] <eNons3nse> what does it mean when i get an internal error at the desktop at boot that says "failed to initalize HAL!"
[10:32] <amarokker> Can anyone tell me how to route my network card onto the NIC which is connected to the internet?
[10:32] <valehru> gnomefreak, do wi32 codecs work with x64?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> valehru: if you read the pm you will see a link for it
[10:33] <gnomefreak> valehru: you have to run it in chroot iirc
[10:33] <Dial_tone> farous: likely rhythmbox
[10:33] <farous> Dial_tone: the cd does not even want to be mounted?
[10:34] <eNons3nse> is it just me or is breezy the most buggy & unstable version of ubuntu yet?
[10:34] <farous> any suggestion of what lib or prog i should install
[10:34] <Stormx2> An app is asking me for my Java Virtual Machine i want to use (JVM). What should I put? I use sun java
[10:34] <eNons3nse> *dapper
[10:34] <Dial_tone> good, you don't mount audio cds
[10:34] <farous> eNons3nse: i would agree to an extent
[10:34] <valehru> gnomefreak,  chroot eh?
[10:34] <exlt> eNons3nse: not on my installs, so far no issues
[10:34] <Stormx2> eNons3nse: Well i thought it was fine! ;)
[10:34] <valehru> ubotu tell valehru -about chroot
[10:34] <farous> Dial_tone: thanx but it does not wna play i will try again thanx for the tip
[10:34] <gnomefreak> valehru: read the link ubotu sent you it should explain it there
[10:35] <Stormx2> An app is asking me for my Java Virtual Machine i want to use (JVM). What should I put? I use sun java
[10:35] <exlt> eNons3nse: be specific - what stability issues and what hardware and what troubleshooting...
[10:35] <David1> here is what happened, I tryed too upgrade to 6.06 through the update manager....it downloaded all the programs, and thene the manager closed unexpectedly.. after this it was supposed to reboot, but that did not happed, so I did so my self, then when I try to log on with gdm, it hangs
[10:35] <noiz777> whats the esiest way to install mp3 codecs
[10:35] <Kyral> Use Ogg Vorbis ;P
[10:35] <Discipulus> how do I get into printer management
[10:35] <Discipulus> ???
[10:36] <SurfnKidAFK> !w32
[10:36] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKidAFK
[10:36] <Kyral> !restricted
[10:36] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[10:36] <killaz> lo guys I want to install the codecs for avi and wmv... I read the HowTo but still I cant figure out what to do.... apt-cache search codecos shows me w32codecs but I already have those installs....
[10:36] <killaz> what else should I install?
[10:36] <enyc> killaz: erm
[10:37] <enyc> killaz: libxine-extracodecs
[10:37] <Baron_> hello
[10:37] <enyc> killaz: totem-xine firefox-toem-xine plugin or wahtever in is
[10:37] <enyc> killaz: libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2
[10:37] <killaz> ency: eactly but how can I get those libxine-extracodecs? cause apt-get install there is no package with that name
[10:37] <Sophant> how do you search for something in a man page>
[10:37] <Sophant> ?
[10:38] <eNons3nse> my programs are constantly crashing (far more than any previous ubuntu version) and some like Grip just don't work right at all.  my sata HD just doesn't work at all, which worked fine before.  there are weird problems with GTK it seems.  Gnome dies & kicks me back to the log in screen once every few days.
[10:38] <exlt> Sophant: use '/searchterm'
[10:38] <Sophant> thanks
[10:38] <enyc> eNons3nse: this might seem odd, but update the system BIOS if you havent already
[10:38] <exlt> Sophant: then use 'n' to go to the next instance
[10:38] <enyc> eNons3nse: ive seen some eird internal-firmware problems cured like that......
[10:38] <enyc> eNons3nse: like r/w problems on HDD for one
[10:38] <Sophant> awesome
[10:39] <codecaine> I get this in terminal on mplayer vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
[10:39] <codecaine> SDL: Using driver: fbcon
[10:39] <Sophant> thanks exlt
[10:39] <codecaine> vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
[10:39] <killaz> enyc:  apt-get install libxine-codecs?? or is libxine-codecs name for the last two names you mentioned?
[10:39] <codecaine> how can I fix that so I can see movies right?
[10:39] <enyc> killaz: erm... lixine-extracodecs
[10:39] <enyc> killaz: erm... libxine-extracodecs I think
[10:39] <exlt> eNons3nse: I agree with the above - this sounds like hardware issues
[10:39] <noiz777> Stormx2, how do you install mp3 codecs?
[10:39] <jns> Does anyone here use Ubuntu on an intel mac?
[10:40] <eNons3nse> then why did everything work just fine in breezy?
[10:40] <David1> look, my comps always seam to by f***d in the A55 hole with imposibaly fixable problems, so now I think I will just reinstall the os. Every time I doo, I managed to keep it going for longer. My first attempt lasted a week, and now it is up to months
[10:40] <killaz> enyc: well... I dont know what could be the problem cause apt-get install libxine-extracodecs gives me this: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:41] <Stormx2> noiz777: Yeah. Well I installed the gstreamer stuff, and I also install mpg123, and the -dev, cause my XMMS fork (called Audacious, check it out, its a billion times better) uses that
[10:41] <assasukasse> Infobash: Dependency not met: gawk not found in path
[10:41] <enyc> killaz: actually id get 'libxine-extracodecs' 'xine-ui' 'totem-xine'
[10:41] <enyc> killaz: aad you probabl dont have universe enabled
[10:41] <enyc> killaz: its probably in ubiverse/multiverse you see
[10:41] <killaz> enyc: I have....
[10:41] <killaz> enyc: ;emme look one more time
[10:42] <Stormx2> Yay i'm install Bang Howdy! :P
[10:42] <David1> hey every on you all shouls try out Xgl, if you are looking for a beautifule desktop
[10:42] <noiz777> Stormx2, thanks..ill se what i can do
[10:42] <enyc> killaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:42] <killaz> all my repositories are enabled
[10:42] <enyc> killaz: and you need to do the 'sudo apt-get update' thing
[10:42] <assasukasse> Host/Kernel/OS "panasonic" running Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686 [  ] 
[10:42] <assasukasse> CPU Info       Intel Pentium M 1024 KB cache flags( - ) clocked at [ 598.586 MHz ] 
[10:42] <assasukasse> Videocard      ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]   X.Org 7.0.0  [ 1024x768 @60hz ] 
[10:43] <Lobster> Gute Nacht
[10:44] <killaz> enyc: I have all repositories enabled.. I just did like you said the update
[10:44] <enyc> killaz: hrrm
[10:44] <enyc> killaz: well... the package is there... http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[10:44] <killaz> lemme look at the sources.list cause I'm enabling the repositories using Synaptic
[10:44] <enyc> killaz: ?are you running dapper (6.06) ?
[10:45] <killaz> enyc: yup
[10:45] <killaz> well everything is enabled..... this is so wierd
[10:46] <andrisp> hi all.. i just messed up my ubuntu installation.. my computer locks up at loading /etc/rc.local scipts.. how can i debug where is problem ?
[10:46] <Produktfel> telnet ascii-wm.net 2006
[10:46] <Produktfel> telnet diego.ascii-wm.net 2006
[10:46] <Produktfel> passa p och kolla p fotbollsvm
[10:47] <andrisp> is it possible to switch off ubuntu startup splash screen and see 'what is going on' ?
[10:47] <farous_> andrisp: yap
[10:47] <andrisp> farous_: how ?
[10:47] <farous_> andrisp: in the boot men /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:47] <farous_> andrisp: remove the splash option
[10:48] <killaz> enyc: I can pastebin my source.list.... I have every repostory enabled... a search using synaptic also doesnt give me any results
[10:49] <andrisp> farous_: i kinda tried this but didn't work
[10:49] <farous_> andrisp: and remove the quiet option too
[10:49] <killaz> this is making me very frustrated.....
[10:49] <enyc> killaz: please do. I may or may-not be able te help
[10:49] <farous_> andrisp: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro
[10:49] <vincenz> Hello, recently Xorg was updated.  For some reason my system is now very laggy.  When I type in a gnome-terminal it's sluggish, when I open a terminal, ,the blue uotline that opens is really slow.... Anyone know how to fix thhis?
[10:50] <FearTuxThePengui> Hey I have a question has anyone successfully installed the ATI X1600 Pro.... without any resolution problems?
[10:50] <jrsims> hey, I just installed a HUGE list of updates. CAn anyone tell me what the big improvements were? I saw lots of Gnome/GTK stuff.
[10:51] <FearTuxThePengui> Anybody?
[10:51] <medulla> ...is anyone actually here that can help?
[10:51] <FearTuxThePengui> What is your question medulla?
[10:53] <medulla> my screen resolution is maxed out at 1024x768... is there any way i can change this, i know my video card can do much more
[10:53] <farous_> !resolution
[10:53] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:53] <farous_> medulla: backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:53] <wheel> medula: go root, go to gdm.
[10:54] <mindamp> im trying to add a printer via the cups web interface through console... however it keeps rejecting my root password
[10:54] <exlt> medulla: edit your xorg config: /etc/X11/xorg.conf - you should see the resolution settings at the end
[10:54] <mindamp> whats going on? its the default setup
[10:54] <mindamp> ?
[10:54] <medulla> ok... thats 3 different things...
[10:54] <medulla> which should be easiest and safest...
[10:54] <farous_> medulla: the script is easy if something go wrong just restore your xorg.conf file
[10:54] <wheel> mindamp: go0 root, go to gdm, check the box that asks if you want to run @root.
[10:54] <mindamp> anyone?
[10:55] <farous_> medulla: look at ubotu link and my way i think is easier. editing the xorg.conf file you need to exactly know what you are doing
[10:55] <farous_> medulla: and you can not fix the resolution from gdm
[10:55] <FearTuxThePengui> Okay well here is the question for you... Since ATI is proprierty with their drivers and my samsung has a proprierty driver for running digital dvi I am going to have to do this by trial and error huh?
[10:55] <graveson>  i am installing windows XP under vmware and cannot get the F8 button to work in order to agree to the license agreement,any ideas
[10:55] <wheel> forget xorg. you will make a mess. go to gdm.
[10:56] <FearTuxThePengui> graveson is your keyboard usb?
[10:56] <mindamp> wheel... how do i do it via the console?
[10:56] <mindamp> cupsd.conf?
[10:56] <exlt> sounds that way, Fear - I don't have any ATI cards to help with
[10:57] <FearTuxThePengui> Yeah I got suckered in to buying the 512 ati card from a friend.. Ugh I hate ATI
[10:57] <farous_> FearTuxThePengui: i have a 9600 ati card both the property and free drives work perfectly here
[10:57] <graveson> FearTuxThePengui: no it is not usb,all the other keys work eg pressing escape reboots the install
[10:57] <farous_> FearTuxThePengui: but my card is old so properly well supported not like yours
[10:58] <Locke_> why doesnt dalnet work anymore
[10:58] <wheel> mind: i'm sorry. not a printer guy.. sorry. i woulod suggest getting a root password, and then run as root. you can then do anything you want. :)
[10:58] <FearTuxThePengui> I am just finding more and more issues.
[10:58] <mindamp> wheel... i have the root password set
[10:58] <FearTuxThePengui> this what you get when you want to have the new toys!
[10:58] <mindamp> ill try to find in the cupsys config where to set runasuser
[10:58] <mindamp> anyone else have any suggestions?
[10:58] <krazykit> wheel: don't suggest people to run as root.
[10:58] <Flannel> wheel: don't suggest that.  There's no reason to go running around as root.
[10:59] <wheel> mind: ok. open synaptic and find the driver you need. :)
[10:59] <enyc> killaz: you still there?
[10:59] <wheel> Fear: this d00d regrets the loss of mandrake.
[10:59] <Dial_tone> is it relatively safe to delete files from an ntfs partition?
[10:59] <mindamp> wheel.. again, dont have X installed ;-)
[10:59] <mindamp> anyone else?
[10:59] <dooglus> mindamp: the default setup doesn't have a root password
[10:59] <wheel> krazy: bullroar. ubuntu does NOT Freaking work without root.
[10:59] <enyc> Dial_tone: not sure... iirc you will find ubuntu kernel not haze ntfs write compiled in anyway
[10:59] <exlt> Dial_tone: depends on who else might need those files  ;)
[10:59] <mindamp> dooglus.. i know.. i set the root password already
[11:00] <mindamp> im trying to figure out why cupsys wont take it
[11:00] <FearTuxThePengui> wheel: isn't that kind of like regretting the loss of Red Hat?  *points to Fedora*
[11:00] <Dial_tone> lol
[11:00] <dooglus> mindamp: I doubt you need to set a root password to get cups working
[11:00] <mindamp> OMG
[11:00] <reclusivemonkey> Hello, can anyone tell me if I should be able to find lm_sensors dev in the standard sources list?
[11:00] <mindamp> you know.. cups is working, i just cant login to add a printer
[11:00] <Locke_> redhat lol
[11:00] <Locke_> it was cool and simple in its day.. sorta
[11:00] <mindamp> because its rejecting the root password.. even though i already sudo passwd'd it
[11:00] <FearTuxThePengui> Cups needs a root password.
[11:00] <krazykit> wheel: it works fine.  sudo gives you root privaleges.  you don't need to log in as root, ever.
[11:00] <farous_> FearTuxThePengui: i will never regret the loss of redhat, fedora, suse, madrake or anyother rpm based dist
[11:00] <dooglus> mindamp: I've never used cups, ever.  but ubuntu is designed to work without having a root password set.
[11:00] <FearTuxThePengui> Hey RH servers are good.
[11:00] <exlt> reclusivemonkey: 'apt-cache search <word>'
[11:00] <mindamp> feartuxthepenugi... i set the root password...
[11:01] <gnomefreak> cupsys looks for your sudo password
[11:01] <FearTuxThePengui> but Fedpra is a joke.
[11:01] <FearTuxThePengui> err Fedora.
[11:01] <wheel> Flannel: do you have blackbox and enlightenment and fluxbox and ice and more? having no root is crazy when ubuntu won't allow you to do anything without roott.
[11:01] <mindamp> tell me something i dont know?
[11:01] <mindamp> cupsys will not take any password...
[11:01] <mindamp> i try using root:mypassword
[11:01] <mindamp> rejected it
[11:01] <Locke_> yeah that no root thing kinda bothers me
[11:01] <mindamp> any suggestions?
[11:01] <Locke_> mindamp, sudo <command>
[11:01] <krazykit> wheel: have you never heard of sudo?  that's the official ubuntu way.
[11:01] <reclusivemonkey> exlt: yep, I have searched its not there, but should it be?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> FearTuxThePengui: this is a ubuntu-support channel please take all non ubuntu support to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <mindamp> locke... thats useless to me
[11:02] <rixxon> Locke_: just sudo passwd then
[11:02] <mindamp> im using root
[11:02] <Locke_> mindamp, why?
[11:02] <mindamp> locke why would it?
[11:02] <mindamp> im root
[11:02] <tiagoboldt> if the root thing is so bad, just creat the root user, and it will be just like it as always been..
[11:02] <Locke_> .. how are you root in ubuntu?
[11:02] <mindamp> amy i retarded or is no one even listening?
[11:02] <wheel> krazy: will sudo allow me to install themes from a windoze partition?
[11:02] <mindamp> how am i root?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Locke_: sudo -i
[11:02] <mindamp> wtf
[11:02] <dooglus> Locke_: he set a root password
[11:02] <FearTuxThePengui> mslinux.org is the best distro ;)
[11:02] <anjel> can anyone help me with having only 60hz refresh in Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:02] <Locke_> hmm..
[11:02] <mindamp> ive gone crazy
[11:02] <Flannel> mindamp: If you want to run as root, thats fine, but don't suggest it to other people.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> or he set the su password
[11:02] <farous_> mindamp: can you just say your prob again
[11:02] <krazykit> wheel: probably.
[11:02] <mindamp> i didnt suggest it to anyone!
[11:02] <wheel> gnome: right. except when it doesn't work.
[11:02] <Locke_> dont use root, do it with sudo
[11:03] <mindamp> omg
[11:03] <Locke_> its just 5 more chars
[11:03] <mindamp> *ugh*
[11:03] <gnomefreak> FearTuxThePengui: i asked you to take it somewhere else
[11:03] <farous_> !tell anjel about fixtures
[11:03] <dooglus> there's no such thing as an 'su password'.  accounts have passwords, not commands
[11:03] <Flannel> mindamp: oh, right, that was wheel, sorry ;)
[11:03] <DRaGONeRO> hi
[11:03] <farous_> !tell anjel about resolution
[11:03] <wheel> krazy: it won't. ubuntu is broken for people who like to move around. broken.
[11:03] <NET||abuse> arrghh.. still can't connect to my network
[11:03] <wheel> Flannel: Yo!!!! :)
[11:03] <anjel> thanks farous_
[11:03] <gnomefreak> dooglus: please explain why you cant use su unless you set it than
[11:03] <mindamp> here we go again... i have cupsys running on the default setup, i have already "sudo passwd" to set a password for root, however when i try to add a printer via the cups web interface, it asks for a username:password... i entered root:mypassword, and it rejects it
[11:03] <nox-Hand> Hey.
[11:04] <mindamp> am i supposed to give it another username or something?
[11:04] <mindamp> whats going on?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> it has to have a password to be used
[11:04] <wheel> Fear: check out mandriva.
[11:04] <Flannel> mindamp: did you read the wiki about cups?
[11:04] <NET||abuse> grr, wasn't identified.. ok.. i' still can't connect to my wpa-aes encrypted network
[11:04] <nox-Hand> I installed XGL, and now my GDM just loads up to the point just before background comes up, then quits.
[11:04] <mindamp> flannel... YES
[11:04] <FearTuxThePengui> mandriva blach
[11:04] <farous_> mindamp: you should enter your user name not root and your sudo password
[11:04] <dooglus> gnomefreak: you can use su without a root password.  "su chris", followed by chris' password, for instance
[11:04] <Flannel> nox-Hand: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support
[11:04] <Locke_> nox-Hand, what vidcard?
[11:04] <wheel> mind: did you say that you aren't running x?
[11:04] <mindamp> wheel correct
[11:04] <farous_> mindamp: that is the way i used to set it up
[11:05] <|lostbyte|> ANyone here have problem installing realplayer ?
[11:05] <mindamp> its already setup by default guys..
[11:05] <mindamp> so if your telling me you setup cups...
[11:05] <wheel> mind: correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't cups require x?
[11:05] <mindamp> then something aint right ;-)
[11:05] <|lostbyte|> i get...
[11:05] <mindamp> wheel.. cups has nothing to do with X
[11:05] <LiteHedded> how can I install LAMP?
[11:05] <|lostbyte|> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:05] <dooglus> |lostbyte|: don't paste here
[11:05] <mindamp> common unix printing system
[11:05] <Flannel> !tell LiteHedded about lamp
[11:05] <|lostbyte|>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[11:05] <farous_> mindamp: not setup just used the webinterface to add printers
[11:05] <LiteHedded> i don't have the server version
[11:05] <DeathGuppie> I just installed gcc-4.0 and it's not there..
[11:05] <gnomefreak> dooglus: chris password its still looking for a password seprate from sudo's?
[11:05] <mindamp> well.. anyways
[11:05] <Flannel> LiteHedded: read the link ubotu sent you.
[11:05] <farous_> mindamp: i suggest you search the forums
[11:05] <wheel> mind: how doews cups come up on your display?
[11:05] <mindamp> omg
[11:06] <mindamp> wheel... lynx localhost:631
[11:06] <farous_> wheel: there are text based browsers
[11:06] <nox-Hand> Flannel: They are not answering
[11:06] <nox-Hand> Locke_: ATI 9800 XT
[11:06] <coza> i need some help please. im puttin SD card into laptop and nothing is happenin cant seenothing for it
[11:06] <wheel> mind: jeebus. :)
[11:06] <andrisp> i have problem - i unselected (to don't start at boot up) some programms from 'Kde settings - Service manager '(don't remember how exactly it's called), and now i cant fully load up my computer.. how can i fix this ? is it possible to see what wrong i did ?
[11:06] <dooglus> gnomefreak: to su to any account, you need that account's password.  to su to root, you need root's password.  to su to chris, you need chris' password.  there's no such thing as the "su password"
[11:06] <coza> ne ideas??
[11:06] <Mattsta> i cannot seem to install limewire, i don't understand how
[11:06] <vincenz> Hello, recently Xorg was updated.  For some reason my system is now very laggy.  When I type in a gnome-terminal it's sluggish, when I open a terminal, ,the blue uotline that opens is really slow.... Anyone know how to fix thhis?
[11:06] <wheel> farous: yah. and printing on papaya. :)
[11:07] <farous_> :)
[11:07] <wheel> farous: :)
[11:07] <farous_> wheel: you should try it it is much faster ;)
[11:07] <coza> im jus needin to getsome pics of it..
[11:07] <DeathGuppie> god, this sucks.. I can't install gcc
[11:07] <medulla> hey... just wanna say thanks for the resolution help... its perfect now
[11:07] <Flannel> DeathGuppie: you installed build-essential?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> dooglus: when you type su <enter> than type in a password (unless its set) you have no password that you can use
[11:07] <wheel> farous: i got better. an anal wife. :)
[11:07] <made> hello all.. I have an X-server problem.. I loaded the new nvidia drivers when the update manager told me that their are new updates and then I restarted and got an X-server error.. I can post my Xorg.log on pastebin at request
[11:07] <ompaul> DeathGuppie, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:07] <DeathGuppie> Flannel, don't know it..ok thanks
[11:08] <scud> has anyone got xen to work on their ubuntu 6.0.6?
[11:08] <DShepherd> DeathGuppie: wat ompaul said
[11:08] <scud> err 6.06
[11:08] <gnomefreak> the only passowrd ubuntu uses is a users password
[11:08] <chepo> ola
[11:08] <Kyral> scud: HowtoForge is your friend
[11:08] <chepo> hello
[11:08] <chepo> hy
[11:08] <scud> i did that but the interfaces mucked up
[11:08] <Mattsta> ok so i have this archived file, now what
[11:08] <Kyral> whats the command syntax to give Ubotu a new ! command?
[11:08] <wheel> chepo: hiya!!! :)
[11:08] <Kyral> scud: ask in ##xen
[11:08] <Kyral> I think Xen is beyond most people in here *DUCK!*
[11:09] <chepo> hello whel
[11:09] <wheel> chepo: :)
[11:09] <chepo> why are weonsiaa
[11:09] <dooglus> gnomefreak: su defaults to 'root' if you don't supply a username.  so "su" is the same as "su root".  to su to root, you need to root password.  there's no root password set in ubuntu by default.  that's why "su" (without arguments) doesn't work unless you set the root password.  there's no such thing as the "su password" though.
[11:09] <andrisp> is there a log files which keep a track from older startup sessions ?
[11:09] <scud> kyral: it appears to be a ubuntu bridge problem, i get an address from dhcp but cant send data anywhere - ping dns resolve etc
[11:09] <coza> Anyone able 2 help with SD card prob/...
[11:09] <Kyral> bridge hmm
[11:09] <TheBigToe> hey, someone wants to install ubuntu(a friend of mine) and he wonders if there's an XP-like skin for it?
[11:10] <Kyral> scud: have you tried to use the other Networking setups?
[11:10] <made> does anybody have a suggestion or want to see my Xorg.log?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> dooglus: thats what i mean when i state su password (i dont have to explain that to a newuser) its easier that way
[11:10] <chepo> bay
[11:10] <chepo> whel
[11:10] <wheel> TheBig: linux has thousands of different themes.
[11:10] <chepo> whel
[11:10] <tristanmike> !tell TheBigToe about themes
[11:10] <chepo> whel
[11:10] <chepo> i love
[11:10] <gnomefreak> chepo: stop spamming please
[11:10] <wheel> chepo: :)
[11:11] <chepo> ohh not is fanny
[11:11] <dooglus> gnomefreak: just because they're new doesn't mean you should make up new terminology.  the root password is called "the root password".  calling it "the su password" will only teach the new user bad habits.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> dooglus: root to me = admin rights
[11:11] <gnomefreak> sudo gives you admin rights
[11:11] <TheBigToe> thanks mike
[11:11] <Flannel> dooglus: one could argue that "the su password" means "the super user password" which, it is.
[11:11] <wheel> doog: no root = broken.
[11:11] <m0biu5> how can i use ssh to upload local files to a server once i've connected
[11:12] <Flannel> wheel: No it's not.  Stop it.
[11:12] <ompaul> dooglus, gnomefreak perhaps as the man says the ability to use the powers of uid 0
[11:12] <scud> kyral : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15940
[11:12] <Kyral> TheBigToe: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1499
[11:12] <ompaul> wheel, read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo thanks
[11:12] <sloucher> mobiu5: scp
[11:12] <TheBigToe> thanks Kyral
[11:12] <wheel> Flannel: true. absolutely true. go su on many, many diferent things and you will strill be told you have no permission. tell the truth.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ompaul: lol person installs ubuntu first day never used linux before how do you explain that in new user terms lol
[11:13] <Kyral> scud: ano.....sounds like you have your FORWARDing screwed up
[11:13] <dooglus> gnomefreak: root is an account.  "admin rights" is something that anybody in the admin group can have, using sudo.  it's best not to confuse these issues.
[11:13] <Kyral> scud: Might wanna ask on the Xen-Users ML
[11:13] <scud> ok
[11:13] <ompaul> gnomefreak, the ability to administer the machine? the "layer of security around the administrator"
[11:13] <gnomefreak> dooglus: im not confusing the issues i know the difference but people never used linux before _dont_
[11:13] <made> For anybody interested in helping: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15915
[11:13] <wheel> no root is an egalitarian notion made with the best of intentions. and it does not work.
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ompaul: dooglus just said that was wrong
[11:14] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I let them read the page RootSudo
[11:14] <Flannel> wheel: that's because you're doing it WRONG.  "su" is not the way ubuntu is setup.  What you're saying is akin to saying that you can't shift with your foot in a car, so that car is broken.
[11:14] <wheel> gnome: Bingo!!!!
[11:14] <Kyral> Some cars you can shift with your foot....
[11:14] <ompaul> like mine ;-)
[11:14] <ompaul> but you also need the stick which I am now bringing into the channel
[11:15] <Kyral> Flannel: He is right though...compared to the rest of the Distros, Ubuntu is ass backwards with the sudo thing
[11:15] <wastrel> ubuntu
[11:15] <ompaul> Kyral, you are wrong there
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Kyral: not true most distros have sudo
[11:15] <bina> is there a program that I might be able to use to check the temperature of my processor etc? I'm using an ABit motherboard
[11:15] <Kyral> ompaul: but also let you use su :P
[11:15] <bob-> whoa bessie
[11:15] <Chousuke> backwards?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> you can use sudo on almost any linux distro
[11:15] <medulla> hey does anyone have 3ddesktop?
[11:15] <Chousuke> Kyral: ubuntu does let you use su.
[11:15] <medulla> how do you get it running...
[11:15] <Kyral> OY!
[11:15] <Kyral> I meant DEFAULT!!!
[11:15] <Chousuke> Kyral: it's just not the preferred way of doing things
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is only one im aware of that uses it by default
[11:15] <wheel> FLannel: bullroar. what, pray tell is the appropriate open-sesame to give a person full control of the system? -s? -i? this is not a freaking joke. tell this to a newbie who is told, over and over, you don't have the RIGHT to do this. or that.
[11:15] <Chousuke> Kyral: Sudo is more advanced than su :)
[11:15] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound my system already detect my card
[11:16] <Kyral> Chousuke: howso?
[11:16] <popey> is it possile to make sudo forget that you have given it your password? to force it to ask you again next time?
[11:16] <Kyral> Chousuke: How many ways are there to login as root?
[11:16] <Dial_tone> udo: because your master volume is too low
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: read the wiki it explains
[11:16] <Kyral> popey: its a timeout thing
[11:16] <ompaul> Kyral, it is a 25 year old program
[11:16] <RememberPOL> Can anybody help me with my issue of Rhythmbox (0.9.3.1) not being able to play internet audio streams?
[11:16] <Kyral> ompaul: I know this
[11:16] <popey> Kyral: yes, i know, I'm asking how to expire it
[11:16] <Chousuke> Kyral: why do you want to login as root?
[11:16] <xne0x> yo
[11:16] <Kyral> popey: I think sudo -k
[11:16] <xne0x> can someone help me
[11:16] <popey> ahh
[11:16] <udo> Dial_tone no all volumes is up
[11:16] <bina> popey: I think you can but I cant remember what tag you use. try man sudo
[11:16] <Chousuke> Kyral: it's simply not necessary on Ubuntu :P
[11:16] <xne0x> im trying to install vmware with windows xp
[11:16] <Kyral> Chousuke: because it is useful sometimes
[11:16] <gnomefreak> xne0x: not unless you state a problem
[11:16] <made> am I on everybodies ignore list or something?
[11:17] <farous_> m0biu5: mn scp
[11:17] <farous_> m0biu5: sorry man scp, scp is the command you are looking for
[11:17] <farous_> dam this network
[11:17] <dooglus> popey: "sudo -k" is right
[11:17] <Kyral> Chousuke: you do realize that "su -c" does the same thing
[11:17] <popey> thanks guys
[11:17] <Chousuke> Kyral: in those cases, you can use sudo -s or sudo -i
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ok guys can we get off the sudo vs su thing for a while
[11:17] <xne0x> wine qemu-img.exe create -f vmdk WindowsXPPro.vmdk 2G Formating 'WindowsXPPro.vmdk', fmt=vmdk, size=2097152 kB
[11:17] <xne0x> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\qemu-img.exe": Module not found
[11:17] <xne0x> i get that
[11:17] <rayston> heya guys
[11:17] <m0biu5> farous_, i am looking thru that right now, i can't seem to figure out how to specifiy the local file..
[11:17] <krazykit> popey: if you read the sudo man pages, you can make it so it'll ask every time you sudo, or you can shorten the expire time.
[11:17] <Chousuke> Kyral: yes, but su can't be configured to allow only certain commands to be run
[11:17] <Pilgrim-> I have installed the kernel best matching my system (i686 smp) how do i remove the kernels i dont need ??
[11:17] <rayston> anyone know why there doesnt seem to be a xorg.conf file in my X11 folder?
[11:17] <popey> thanks krazykit
[11:17] <Kyral> I seem to be GOOD at making things go offtopic recently
[11:17] <xne0x> when i try to make the blank drive
[11:17] <Flannel> wheel: so, what you're saying is that the super user vs normal user security model is bogus?  Thats the whole POINT.  sudo will give you full control of a system.
[11:17] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound my system already detect my card
[11:18] <Kyral> Flannel: he is right
[11:18] <Kyral> you can restrict command with sudo
[11:18] <wheel> sudo -mebendingover praying to the gods thati won'tbe toldto buzzoffwith myrequestto installafreakingtheme.
[11:18] <Kyral> I have done it
[11:18] <made> hello all...
[11:18] <gnomefreak> udo: are you using oss or alsa?
[11:18] <udo> als
[11:18] <farous_> m0biu5: scp <target file> username@host:<dest file>
[11:18] <udo> alsa
[11:18] <ompaul> *** so root sudo conversation is now for #ubuntu-offtopic ***
[11:18] <BlueEagle> udo: If you can hear sound then I do not see the problem tbh.
[11:18] <xne0x> ne1 kno...
[11:18] <Kyral> I needed modprobe and mount and the other crypto functions and I asked for them via sudo
[11:18] <gnomefreak> udo: you hear sounds?
[11:18] <Flannel> Kyral: right, that's not the point.  Its possible, but we're talking about the administrator's sudo here.  He's whining about how one has to do it differently in ubuntu.
[11:18] <Pilgrim-> anyone ?, i tryes to remove the i386 kernels but it then wants to install something else
[11:18] <udo> no nothing
[11:18] <gnomefreak> from speakers not from cpu
[11:18] <wheel> Flannel: that would be great if it worked. it doesn't work in breazy badger. half of the time it tells you NYET to doeing things.
[11:19] <wheel> doing? :)
[11:19] <Chousuke> wheel: I'm sure you're doing something wrong, then. :)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> xne0x: dont pm me please the channel is more helpful than one person
[11:19] <rayston> anyone know why there doesnt seem to be a xorg.conf file in my X11 folder? I want to edit it, but Icant find it
[11:19] <xne0x> o kk srry
[11:19] <m0biu5> farous_, what if i am logged in with ssh?
[11:19] <xne0x> just ppl seem busy here thats y
[11:19] <made> does anybody see the words I type?
[11:19] <m0biu5> made,  yes
[11:19] <gnomefreak> xne0x: so am i ;)
[11:20] <Madpilot> made, nope ;)
[11:20] <xne0x> o kk
[11:20] <Dial_tone> is there an easy way to change a user's uid/gid and  all files owned w/o recreating it?
[11:20] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound my system already detect my card
[11:20] <xne0x> hmm
[11:20] <BlueEagle> rayston: it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:20] <made> I have an X-server problem.. I loaded the new nvidia drivers when the update manager told me that their are new updates and then I restarted and got an X-server error.. I can post my Xorg.log on pastebin at request
[11:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:20] <fabiolinux> hi guys
[11:20] <farous_> m0biu5: scp is he ssh copy command
[11:20] <bbrazil> Dial_tone: recreating it won't do it. usermod,groupmod, find+xargs+chown
[11:20] <made> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15915
[11:20] <BlueEagle> made: here's a request: Could  you please post the error logs on pastebin?
[11:20] <wheel> Chousuke: i'm not the problem. i'va had linux forever. i like ubuntu. i love the philosophy. the problem is that people new to linux will give up if they are not ALLOWED to do things with their puter.
[11:20] <fabiolinux> anyone could help me setting postfix?
[11:20] <rayston> BlueEagle :yah, thats what Ithough, but its not there, yet, im in gnome right now
[11:20] <rayston> it boots fine
[11:20] <Chousuke> wheel: they are.
[11:21] <farous_> m0biu5: is this connection to another linux box
[11:21] <BlueEagle> rayston: really?
[11:21] <xne0x> so ill just state problem and hope someone returns some help ;-D
[11:21] <made> BlueEagle: it's there right above you line..
[11:21] <Chousuke> wheel: the default configuration allows the administrator to do anything they want through sudo :P
[11:21] <wheel> Chousuke: and that makes me angry. :)
[11:21] <m0biu5> farous_, yes
[11:21] <LDSJedi> Greetings...
[11:21] <dooglus> Dial_tone: "usermod" can do it, so long as the user's files are all in his home directory.
[11:21] <LDSJedi> I need a hand understanding something about the FireStarter window...
[11:21] <xne0x> when i try this cmd to make a blank drive for windows xp--vmware.... wine qemu-img.exe create -f vmdk WindowsXPPro.vmdk 2G Formating 'WindowsXPPro.vmdk', fmt=vmdk, size=2097152 kB
[11:21] <xne0x> i get this
[11:21] <BlueEagle> made: Could you post your xorg.conf too please?
[11:21] <ompaul>  wheel,  Chousuke please take the talk about the joys of root or sudo can go to #ubuntu-offtopic starting now ..
[11:21] <xne0x> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\qemu-img.exe": Module not fo
[11:22] <xne0x> found*
[11:22] <rayston> BlueEagle : yah, really, that folder is there, and theres various xorg.conf backup files, but not the actual xorg.conf file, it doesnt seem to be a hidden file either
[11:22] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:22] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:22] <dooglus> Dial_tone: sudo usermod -g <new-gid> -u <new-uid> username
[11:22] <Madpilot> wheel, sudo & the basic Linux security model isn't that hard to explain - especially when you point out that it makes it (slightly) harder to break your system...
[11:22] <Dial_tone> dooglus: thank you. I will look into that. I need to match a uid for nfs purposes
[11:22] <wheel> Chousuke: no. it doesn't. half of the time you go sudo or su or whatever you want and it comes back that you do NOT have PERMISSION to do this. :)
[11:22] <made> BlueEagle: ohh sure..
[11:22] <farous_> m0biu5: ok that is easier you can do it through graphical interface. in nautilus the file manager for gnome. type connect to server. then check server type as ssh
[11:22] <bbrazil> ompaul: want to add sudo to that factoid ;)
[11:22] <ompaul> bbrazil, heh
[11:22] <xne0x> im using gnome by the way
[11:22] <Chousuke> wheel: not really. but continue on #ubuntu-offtopic if you will :P
[11:22] <m0biu5> farous_, okay, but for future reference, i'd like to be able to do it via CLI
[11:22] <BlueEagle> kyral: and as far as I know /dev/wacom hasn't got anything to do with nVidia...
[11:23] <Dial_tone> brb
[11:23] <Madpilot> wheel, then you've broken your Ubuntu install somehow - anyway, -offtopic from now on, OK?
[11:23] <dooglus> Dial_tone: I did it once because I wanted to match my ubuntu partition with my mandriva one.  in mandriva my uid is 501, so I use the same in ubuntu
[11:23] <BlueEagle> kyral: sorry mis-nicked
[11:23] <Kyral> huhwha?
[11:23] <BlueEagle> made: and as far as I know /dev/wacom hasn't got anything to do with nVidia...4
[11:23] <udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any sound my system already detect my card
[11:23] <farous_> m0biu5: i gave you the command line option it is scp
[11:23] <wheel> Mad: whatever. the DEAL is to NOT SCREW newbies, i think. you wanna make linux grow? don't tell newbies NO.
[11:23] <LDSJedi> On the FireStarter window, the section for Network.. the mb being sent and received are what?
[11:23] <Dial_tone> exactly, my freebsd uid is 1001, but on ubuntu its 1000
[11:23] <Dial_tone> and freebsd is the nfs server
[11:23] <ompaul> wheel, you want to take that to the other channel?
[11:23] <BlueEagle> udo: "23:22 < udo> does anyone knows why i can hear any soun..." <= can you or can't you hear any sound?
[11:23] <ompaul> wheel, Like Now!
[11:23] <farous_> m0biu5: if you want to see some examples of the usage os scp i would just suggest do a google search
[11:24] <fabiolinux> Listen to this: when I send an email to someone@wind.it by mutt I get an error from the remote server. Why I get an error only sending emails to xxx@wind.it (and not, for example, to xxx@tiscali.it)?
[11:24] <Madpilot> wheel, #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue to prove yourself wrong...
[11:24] <made> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15941
[11:24] <wheel> Mad: did you place a root password on your  puter when you installed ubuntu?
[11:24] <m0biu5> farous_, thanks for your time m8
[11:24] <udo> i cant hear anything why
[11:24] <medulla> Hey... does anyone have another way of doing what this guy is trying to do...
[11:24] <medulla> http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[11:24] <farous_> :)
[11:24] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: can you pastebin the error?
[11:24] <medulla> its not working for me...
[11:24] <Madpilot> wheel, of course not, there's no point w/ Ubuntu
[11:24] <dooglus> sounds like wheel is having a problem with the sudo command in ubuntu.  isn't that something we support here?
[11:24] <rayston> so, is it possible that X is somehow using one of the backup files or something? Iwas messing with those files recently while trying to get my Nvidia Drivers working, it was there then, but now its gone
[11:24] <N9URK> HI All: I installed Dapper (LAMP Server) yesterday then did "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".  The desktop works fine but when I click on the firefox icon (or type firefox into the command line) it will not start.  I did apt-get upgrade firefox and it still does not work.  Is there something I have done wrong?  THanks
[11:24] <wheel> ompaul: what's your problem?
[11:24] <Skeletonix> Hello! ...
[11:24] <LDSJedi> Anyone?
[11:24] <burgermann> Is it possible to make a bridge between two netcards?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> wheel: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic now
[11:24] <fabiolinux> medulla:  sure, wait a moment
[11:24] <bbrazil> burgermann: yes
[11:24] <wastrel> medulla:  what isn't working
[11:24] <BlueEagle> made: Seems the problem is with  your stylus. You on a tablet pc you say?
[11:25] <burgermann> bbrazil: somewhere I can read up on that?
[11:25] <ompaul> wheel, you are off topic that has turned into a flame war and we have a channel for that and I will mute or kick you having asked several times that it be left alone
[11:25] <udo> how can  i configure my kernel?
[11:25] <wheel> dooglus: i like linux. i like ubuntu. i love their philosophy. but you can't grow a defective product.
[11:25] <fabiolinux> medulla: <star2@inwind.it>: host mx1.libero.it[193.70.193.95]  said: 504 <ramirez>: Helo
[11:25] <fabiolinux>     command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname (in reply to RCPT TO
[11:25] <fabiolinux>     command)
[11:25] <Mattsta> so how do i install java :$
[11:25] <made> BlueEagle: no that is the problem.. everytime I install ubuntu that stylus crap shows up..
[11:25] <bbrazil> burgermann: I'm afriad you'll have to google it. netfilter.org maybe. If you don;t neet broadcast, just use proxyarp
[11:25] <LDSJedi> Am I here?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:25] <made> BlueEagle: I am not on a tablet
[11:25] <bbrazil> burgermann: *don't need
[11:25] <ompaul> wheel, go to the other channel
[11:25] <ompaul> your muted
[11:25] <dooglus> wheel: you can fix defects though.  I expect yours is fixable, since the rest of us don't have it.
[11:25] <Likket> hi, how can I know which process is listening on a certain port?
[11:25] <burgermann> bbrazil, I don't know what the concepts called in english.. netcard bridge?
[11:26] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i do startsx i get the error failed to load the module "v41","fglrx","kbd", "mouse", "wacom"... how do i get these modules to load
[11:26] <BlueEagle> made: I see. Well then there's something that is mis-detected as a stylus. You on a laptop?
[11:26] <xne0x> ompual, could u help me
[11:26] <xne0x> with vmware
[11:26] <liquidten2> Likket: netstat
[11:26] <medulla> nevermind... i believe its working now...
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !vmware
[11:26] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[11:26] <made> BlueEagle: no, I'm on a desktop pc
[11:26] <unregistereduser> hi guys, i'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem i'm having
[11:26] <medulla> i dont think i updated the list correctly...
[11:26] <bbrazil> burgermann: try this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html
[11:26] <N9URK> !firefox
[11:26] <medulla> but its fine now...
[11:26] <medulla> ill have to test it when its done
[11:26] <burgermann> bbrazil: thx a dozen
[11:26] <BlueEagle> made: Really. Well then I don't know what causes it. I would think that removing all devices from /etc/X11/xorg.conf that refer to /dev/wacom will cure your problem.
[11:27] <unregistereduser> i've upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now support for certain media formats has disappeared from xine
[11:27] <mmmiiikkkeee> this problem is after i did the upgrade to 6.06
[11:27] <unregistereduser> well, from totem-xine
[11:27] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: what's the contents of /etc/hostname?
[11:27] <BlueEagle> made: You might want to try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:27] <swim> hey folks
[11:27] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:27] <xne0x> gnomefreak, thnks but i need help installing windows on it
[11:27] <BlueEagle> made: see if you can spot what and why that stylus stuff is put in there.
[11:27] <mmmiiikkkeee> and my eth0 device is not recgnozed at all on start up
[11:27] <N9URK> !firefox1.5
[11:27] <unregistereduser> i reinstalled w32codecs and verified that i was using totem-xine and not totem-gstreamer
[11:27] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:27] <xne0x> not with the actuall vmware
[11:27] <Sp4rKy> http://experts.microsoft.com     Youpiiiiii
[11:27] <Skeletonix> ..ehr...I reinstalled Windows and grub is away :( ..I boot from loade liveCD and typed :
[11:27] <Skeletonix> 
[11:27] <Skeletonix>  sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[11:27] <Skeletonix> and the log was:
[11:27] <swim> has anyone gotten a 3rd gen ipod to transfer data on dapper?
[11:27] <made> BlueEagle: thx I will try that..
[11:27] <Skeletonix> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[11:28] <N9URK> !firefox
[11:28] <ompaul> !paste
[11:28] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[11:28] <gnomefreak> xne0x: that link "should" explain it  i dont use it i have no windows on this pc
[11:28] <medulla> does anyone know if Utorrent will work with WINE
[11:28] <medulla> ?
[11:28] <mmmiiikkkeee> like i cant to ifup eth0... i says that it does not exist
[11:28] <unregistereduser> but still i get errors along the lines of Video codec 'Sorenson Video 1' is not handled
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell N9URK -about ff1.5
[11:28] <v-mack> swim
[11:28] <v-mack> i have
[11:28] <dooglus> what's with ubotu's !vmware?  that doesn't look like a legal command to me.  a single backtick?
[11:28] <LDSJedi> Ok is there another channel I can go to for help on this issue?
[11:28] <Skeletonix> here is my fdisk -l
[11:28] <fabiolinux> What does this error mean? <xxx@inwind.it>: host mx1.libero.it[193.70.193.95]  said: 504 <ramirez>: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname (in reply to RCPT TO command)
[11:28] <v-mack> i use it daily without a problem
[11:28] <bbrazil> mmmiiikkkeee: lspci | grep -i ethernet  <-- what does this show?
[11:28] <rayston> anyone know why there is a xorg.conf file in /usr/share/xresprobe ?
[11:28] <Skeletonix> Device Boot   Start     End   Blocks     Id System
[11:28] <Skeletonix> /dev/hda1 *       1    3264 26218048+  7 HPFS/NTFS
[11:28] <Skeletonix> /dev/hda2      3265    6663  27302467+  f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[11:28] <Skeletonix> /dev/hda3      6664    9733  24659775  83 Linux
[11:28] <Skeletonix> /dev/hda5      3265    6528  26218048+  7 HPFS/NTFS
[11:28] <N9URK> !ff1.5
[11:28] <Skeletonix> /dev/hda6      6529    6663  1084356   82 Linux swap / Solaris
[11:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:28] <gnomefreak> dooglus: oyes i was wondering same thing
[11:28] <Madpilot> dooglus, read the tell again - it's not a single backtick only
[11:28] <BioVorE> nice spam
[11:28] <xne0x> it should but yea
[11:28] <xne0x> it just  shows install vmware
[11:28] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: your HELO isn't fully qualified
[11:29] <dooglus> !vmware
[11:29] <ompaul> Skeletonix, DONT PASTE IN THIS CHANNEL thank ou
[11:29] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[11:29] <N9URK> gnomefreak: thanks.  Did you see my question above?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i take my eyes off screen for a sec :(
[11:29] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me with the wpa-aes encryiption on my network ?
[11:29] <swim> v-mack: was there anything in particualr you needed to do? I can see mine in a number of apps, and evern play from it, but cannot delete files from it... havent even tried to add files yet
[11:29] <ompaul> heh
[11:29] <dooglus> Madpilot: you read it again
[11:29] <gnomefreak> N9URK: no
[11:29] <NET||abuse> i can't get the connection to happen.
[11:29] <Zaph> Hey everyone!
[11:29] <Zaph> I amsooo happy!!!
[11:29] <udo> which is the latest ubuntu dapper release kernel?
[11:29] <v-mack> swim
[11:29] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: what have I to do? I use postfix
[11:29] <Skeletonix> ompaul: why?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> udo: 2.6.15-25
[11:29] <v-mack> swim: what app are you using to interface
[11:29] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: cat /etc/hostname
[11:29] <dooglus> udo: linux still
[11:29] <Zaph> I just got ununtu connected through 3g..YAY!
[11:29] <v-mack> swim: i use gtkpod for transfers, i have never had a problem
[11:29] <N9URK> gnomefreak:  (if you wouldn't mind helping me) I installed Dapper (LAMP Server) yesterday then did "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".  The desktop works fine but when I click on the firefox icon (or type firefox into the command line) it will not start.  I did apt-get upgrade firefox and it still does not work.  Is there something I have done wrong?  THanks
[11:29] <bkoerner> what?
[11:29] <ompaul> Skeletonix, is it too busy it is a channel rule and use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:30] <swim> v-mack: I'll use whatever works, but I've tried with gtkpod... to delete... and I get these errors:
[11:30] <Madpilot> dooglus, heh, you're right, there's a typo in the uname -r section
[11:30] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: and?
[11:30] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: what does it output?
[11:30] <udo> how can i configure my kernel?
[11:30] <Skeletonix> ompaul...O.K..thanx
[11:30] <tim_> lol yea
[11:30] <fabiolinux> ramirez
[11:30] <tim_> whoops, wrong window
[11:30] <gnomefreak> N9URK: sudo apt-get install firefox    (try that for a start
[11:30] <dooglus> Madpilot: there's no need for any of that - just give the wiki page URL and let the wiki page explain the rest, surely!
[11:30] <bkoerner> how old are u peoples?
[11:30] <LDSJedi> Hello.. I really do need some help with this... anyone?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> N9URK: let me know what it says
[11:30] <mmmiiikkkeee> lspci | grep -i ethernet... shows  that my intel ethernet controller exits.. and soem thing about 0000:02:01.0
[11:30] <NET||abuse> I really am at wrist slitting stage with this connection..... my network-admin can see all the ssid's in my living room,, 3 intersect here..
[11:30] <Madpilot> dooglus, yeah - just a sec, I'll change the tell
[11:30] <NET||abuse> it just won't successfully connect to any of them.
[11:30] <someothernick> medulla, utorrent will work with wine. Azureus will work without wine though.
[11:30] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: just my hostname: ramirez
[11:30] <mmmiiikkkeee> how can i activate it?
[11:30] <NET||abuse> and I own 2 of these networks :(
[11:31] <N9URK> gnomefreak: "already the newest version"
[11:31] <swim> v-mack: when trying to read (though it does eventually show whats on there) Could not open "iTunesDB.ext" for reading extended info. Extended info will not be used.
[11:31] <ompaul> bkoerner,  this is not a chat channel - it is only a support channrl for ubuntu
[11:31] <bkoerner> g2g
[11:31] <gnomefreak> N9URK: what does firefox-bin do?
[11:31] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: okay, change /etc/postfix/main.cf set myhostname = ramirez.your.fqdn
[11:31] <v-mack> swim: that's okay.  i get that problem too
[11:31] <medulla> is azureus as CPU heavy in ubuntu as it wqas in windows?
[11:31] <rayston> kay, ill come back when its a bit less hectic in here
[11:31] <medulla> because i loved azureus but the slim Utorrent was even better...
[11:31] <liquidten2> medulla: yes, possibly even more
[11:31] <swim> v-mack: so just ignore that error?
[11:31] <udo> how can i configure my kernel?
[11:31] <N9URK> gnomefreak: command not found
[11:31] <gnomefreak> N9URK: does it launch ff?
[11:31] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: thanks a lot, I'll try
[11:31] <Madpilot> rayston, it's nearly always like this
[11:31] <LDSJedi> ompaul... could you give me hand perhaps?!
[11:31] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[11:31] <someothernick> medulla, i don't think so.
[11:31] <billybennett> I did an update yesterday and it required a restart and since that when I open a new program it seems like the animation when new windows come up lags, does anyone know how to stop that?
[11:31] <medulla> well then Utorrent it is...
[11:31] <N9URK> gnomefreak: no it does not
[11:31] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: don't forget to reload postfix after changing the config file
[11:32] <rayston> really? Imust have gotten lucky previously
[11:32] <ompaul> LDSJedi, ask the channel I don't know all that much if I know I pitch in
[11:32] <rayston> really? Imust have gotten lucky previously
[11:32] <Skeletonix> Pleas...do you know someone , why I can not reinstall grub?
[11:32] <liquidten2> medulla:  I personally use "rtorrent".
[11:32] <rayston> anyone know why there is a xorg.conf file in /usr/share/xresprobe ?
[11:32] <v-mack> swim: yea.  just ignore it, and then hit "read".  you should get a list of the contents of your ipod
[11:32] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: what is fqdn??
[11:32] <dooglus> udo: most kernel configuration is done at build time.  get the sources and build your own kernel if you want to configure it fully
[11:32] <liquidten2> It is without a doubt smaller than utorrent
[11:32] <gnomefreak> N9URK: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox   type that command lets see if it works after that
[11:32] <BlueEagle> made: Any luck?
[11:32] <LDSJedi> I've asked several times
[11:32] <v-mack> swim: then you can delete
[11:32] <de4dpixel> anybody know if theres a way to run evolution in the background and just have it notify me on new emails?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> brb cycle
[11:32] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: how can I reload it?
[11:32] <made> BlueEagle: I think so.. I'm almost done..
[11:32] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: fully qualified domain name. For instance the system I'm on is "matrix" and the fqdn is matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie
[11:32] <ompaul> LDSJedi, maybe I will scroll back and have a look
[11:32] <Madpilot> LDSJedi, it helps if you just ask your question first...
[11:32] <N9URK> gnomefreak: tnx processing
[11:32] <swim> v-mack: ok so then I'll select an artist to remove... and delete it... after that I need to select Sync to apply that action right?
[11:32] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i do ifup eth0 i get "ignoring unknown interface eth0=etth0"
[11:32] <v-mack> swim: you got it
[11:32] <gnomefreak> N9URK: ok let me know if ir works from terminal first
[11:32] <gnomefreak> when its done
[11:33] <dooglus> liquidten2: is rtorrent smaller in size too?  or just in features?
[11:33] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: so I can invent something!
[11:33] <N9URK> got it from command line gnomefreak
[11:33] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: sudo /etc/init.d/postfix reloas
[11:33] <gnomefreak> N9URK: it works now?
[11:33] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: no, you must use the correct value
[11:33] <v-mack> swim: i think once you play with the contents at all in gtkpod, that error will not come up anymore
[11:33] <KrisWood> Hi everyone I'm having a horrid time trying to get codecs working, and now it seems like i've killed the movie player altogether because now it won't even start, could anyone help me step by step with setting up a player to use codecs?
[11:33] <bbrazil> fabiolinux: I have to go now
[11:33] <gnomefreak> N9URK: does it work from icon?
[11:33] <LDSJedi> MadPilot // the question I posted above is "Under Network on FireStarter, what are the mb being sent and received?"
[11:33] <fabiolinux> bbrazil: thanks for all
[11:33] <liquidten2> dooglus:  It's smaller in size definately.  It's ncurses based(like the earlier Ubuntu/Debian installers), but it is based off of libtorrent, so it supports almost everything azureus does.
[11:33] <Mattsta> i cant install JAVA
[11:33] <v-mack> kriswood: which movie player are you using
[11:33] <udo> dooglus how can i get sources and build my own kernel?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Mattsta: its in multiverse repo
[11:33] <alnr> i booted hoary livecd, the screenres tool only offers 640x480 though i have more, can I bump it up w/o reboot (also how to make it go higher on reboot)
[11:33] <KrisWood> v-mack: whatever the default is that comes with ubuntu
[11:33] <swim> v-mack: when I select sync i get: Opening of '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' for writing failed.
[11:33] <rayston> BlueEagle : so, is it possible that X is somehow using one of the backup files or something? Iwas messing with those files recently while trying to get my Nvidia Drivers working, it was there then, but now its gone
[11:33] <ompaul> LDSJedi, it is firestarter I don't do that so no idea
[11:33] <pulver> hey! anyone know any good planner/scheduling app? what would you recommend?
[11:34] <N9URK> gnomefreak: only when I am in "sudo bash" mode
[11:34] <Madpilot> LDSJedi, I assume they're total network traffic numbers - but I don't currently have Firestarter installed here
[11:34] <dooglus> liquidten2: does it support dht like azureus?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mattsta -about javadebs
[11:34] <N9URK> It didn't do that before
[11:34] <eventide> udev sets the perms of /dev/bus/usb/003/010 to 664 group "scanner" for my scanner; sane-find-scanner finds my scanner; scanimage -L does not, nor does xsane; as root, both scanimage -L and xsane work fine.  where should I look next?
[11:34] <de4dpixel> pulver, evolution is decent
[11:34] <LDSJedi> ok thanks guys..
[11:34] <dooglus> udo: install package "linux-source"
[11:34] <gnomefreak> N9URK: type firefox in terminal what does it say
[11:34] <Madpilot> pulver, Evolution does calendaring/planning as well as email
[11:34] <v-mack> swim: danng... i remember getting that once, and i'm trying to remember what to do about it.  sorry, im racking my brain here
[11:34] <rigonatti> Does anyone know a good tools to Backup and decryp DVD ?
[11:34] <mmmiiikkkeee>  when i do ifup eth0 i get "ignoring unknown interface eth0=etth0" why would eth0 be unknown?
[11:34] <swim> thx v-mack
[11:34] <LDSJedi> What would you recommend for virus detection and protection on Ubuntu Dapper ?
[11:34] <v-mack> swim: i just assumed thats what happened the first tiem you tried
[11:34] <pulver> de4dpixel, Madpilot, thanks
[11:34] <gnomefreak> LDSJedi: nothing ;)
[11:35] <liquidten2> dooglus:  I think actually DHT is the ONLY thing that rtorrent doesn't support that azureus does...
[11:35] <NET||abuse> LDSJedi, nowt,, not needed
[11:35] <igorzolnikov> hi! ubuntu's repo include tsclient 0.140... i want install tsclient 1.48... how i can do it?
[11:35] <dooglus> liquidten2: DHT is the only reason I use azureus :)
[11:35] <Kyral> compile it
[11:35] <NET||abuse> LDSJedi, there are no viruses
[11:35] <N9URK> gnomefreak: after I typed exit on the sudo bash termindal and did firefox just from user priv. it didn't start (but sudo firefox worked)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> LDSJedi: the defualt iptables should be fine for _normal_ use
[11:35] <LDSJedi> So the system is safe from spyware and the like?
[11:35] <BlueEagle> rayston: Well if you're really unlucky you might have managed to remove it all together.
[11:35] <Madpilot> pulver, np - I actually just use Ev. for planning, I don't use the email side at all :)
[11:35] <Madpilot> LDSJedi, yes
[11:35] <gnomefreak> N9URK: you need to change the permissions of ff
[11:35] <Wass|> hi
[11:35] <LDSJedi> Excellent.
[11:35] <KrisWood> Can anyone recommend a full-featured video player for ubuntu that's similar to itunes or windows media player? :-/ and how do I set up codecs for it?
[11:35] <NET||abuse> LDSJedi, it is isn't it :)
[11:35] <BlueEagle> rayston: however it's not a biggie. Just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if your X won't start.
[11:35] <v-mack> kriswood: mplayer
[11:35] <LDSJedi> Is this where I can ask for Dapper Support?
[11:35] <dooglus> LDSJedi: there isn't much malware available for linux yet, so most people pretend it doesn't exist at all.
[11:35] <NET||abuse> LDSJedi, yes
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: permissions for ff are in /etc/bin/firefox?
[11:36] <v-mack> kriswood: do you have the extra repositories enabled?
[11:36] <KrisWood> ok how do I get mplayer and how do I install codecs for it?
[11:36] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, no idea, I don't run FF
[11:36] <NET||abuse> dooglus, it doesn't... witch ,,, burn 'im!
[11:36] <gnomefreak> smart man ;)
[11:36] <N9URK> gnomefreak: the priv on /usr/bin/firefox?
[11:36] <KrisWood> v-mack: I think I do, but I'm not sure
[11:36] <rixxon> KrisWood: mplayer, vlc
[11:36] <sash1> i have a DRI problem:
[11:36] <sash1> $ xdriinfo
[11:36] <sash1> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:36] <sash1> Screen 0: not direct rendering capable.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> N9URK: i think so
[11:36] <rayston> BlueEagle :well, my X starts just fine, Ijust cant edit the file, will that command put the file back so I can edit it?
[11:36] <KrisWood> I don't like vlc, it's too bare bones
[11:36] <gnomefreak> sash1: please use pastebin
[11:36] <v-mack> swim: i am googling your problem, cause i know i got around it
[11:36] <rixxon> KrisWood: sudo apt-get install [vlc|mplayer] 
[11:36] <sash1> k
[11:36] <dooglus> NET||abuse: heh.
[11:36] <N9URK> gnomefreak: /usr/bin/firefox was already set to 777
[11:36] <Tasha_> I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5
[11:36] <bioticpro> Hello all, Im trying to setup ntpdate to connect to time server upon dialup net connection only, can anyone help with this?
[11:36] <rayston> BlueEagle : to clarify , I cant edit the file, because its not there
[11:36] <swim> thanks a lot v-mack
[11:36] <rixxon> KrisWood: i don't like vlc either, but i know many do :P
[11:36] <McNutella> how do I install .bin files please ?
[11:37] <liquidten2> dooglus:  utorrent through wine works perfectly in linux, and is definitely smaller and faster than Azureus(even through wine) and supports DHT.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> McNutella: sh file.bin
[11:37] <pulver> Madpilot, sounds great
[11:37] <LDSJedi> OK.. Under Applications then Add/Remove I get the following error "Failed to check for installed and available applications: This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'."
[11:37] <ompaul> sash1, DONT paste here thanks we have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that
[11:37] <N9URK> gnomefreak: duh on my part: let me try chown
[11:37] <NET||abuse> dooglus, your a tool of the man! spreading deceit and ms propoganda!
[11:37] <McNutella> gnomefreak, always there first.. thank you :)
[11:37] <LDSJedi> How do I fix that?
[11:37] <ompaul> !reinstall
[11:37] <ubotu> somebody said reinstall was renew configuration: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $package <<followed by >> sudo apt-get install $package
[11:37] <gnomefreak> McNutella: yw
[11:37] <ompaul> LDSJedi, ^^ please check the message from the ubotu a couple of lines above, thanks
[11:37] <dooglus> NET||abuse: which bit isn't true?  you really think there's no linux malware?
[11:37] <KrisWood> ok got mplayer now, how do I run it?
[11:37] <Tasha_> I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5
[11:37] <BlueEagle> rayston: I know. But dpkg-reconfigure will write you a brand new one.
[11:37] <KrisWood> oooh ok got it
[11:38] <KrisWood> looks like media player classic :-/
[11:38] <LDSJedi> Ompaul, I am still new and that looks Greek to me...
[11:38] <KrisWood> isn't there anything more full-featured for linux?
[11:38] <N9URK> gnomefreak: well that didn't let me change the ownership, but it is set to 777
[11:38] <BlueEagle> rayston: if you are able to restart X w/o /etc/X11/xorg.conf then you are doing something really weird tho. :)
[11:38] <made> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15944
[11:38] <made> BlueEagle: brb
[11:38] <v-mack> kriswood: just what are you after in a media player?
[11:38] <BlueEagle> rayston: try this from your root dir: slocate xorg.conf
[11:38] <NET||abuse> dooglus, oy as far as the grand cousel is concerned ,,, there is no such thing as malware.... you shall sufer execution at the hands of the rectal banana inserter!
[11:38] <gnomefreak> N9URK: right click the file and click propperties is it set to execute by all?
[11:38] <jrib> KrisWood: there are skins available for mplayer
[11:38] <v-mack> kriswood: is it the GUI that sets you off?
[11:38] <sash1> so here's my DRI problem: http://pastebin.com/717241
[11:38] <NET||abuse> dooglus, of course there is some... just not much,, i'm just having a laugh..
[11:38] <VitaminG> kriswood: you could try xine-ui
[11:39] <ompaul> LDSJedi, do this >>   sudo dpkg -P --force-depends $YOUR-PACKAGE-HERE && sudo apt-get install $YOUR-PACKAGE-HERE
[11:39] <KrisWood> yeah it's the gui I think
[11:39] <farshim_> Hi, Does anyone know hoe to resolev:  error: getdate.h: No such file or directory ?
[11:39] <N9URK> Iam doing it from the command like it is rwxrwxrwx
[11:39] <ompaul> LDSJedi, no $ in the command line
[11:39] <mmmiiikkkeee> can any one help my to get my computer connected to the internet or tell me a good resource to read in order to get the internet to work... its pluged in and it use to work before i did an upgrade to 6.06 and lspci lists the device but ifup eth0 says eth0 is unknown
[11:39] <KrisWood> I'm coming from windows and am used to windows media player
[11:39] <dooglus> NET||abuse: that's cool - but there are people here who really advise not having any protection, because "it doesn't affect linux"...
[11:39] <N9URK> Iam doing it from the command like it is rwxrwxrwx gnomefreak
[11:39] <LDSJedi> What does "package" mean?
[11:39] <KrisWood> but itunes is also acceptable
[11:39] <BlueEagle> made: You need to remove the input devices "stylus", "cursor" and "eraser" from the ServerLayout section.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> farshim_: is this something you are coding?
[11:39] <xne0x>  sudo apt-get build-dep qemu
[11:39] <xne0x> Reading package lists... Done
[11:39] <xne0x> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:39] <xne0x> E: Unable to find a source package for qemu
[11:39] <pizux> hellox
[11:39] <udo> dooglus i want to configure the kernel not to update it
[11:39] <xne0x> hmm how can i fix that error
[11:39] <LDSJedi> With Breezy I was ab;e to view lists of things to install
[11:39] <VitaminG> kriswood: rhythmbox looks kinda like iTunes
[11:39] <farshim_> gnomefreak: I am compiling a program called freepops
[11:39] <NET||abuse> dooglus, :) yeh, i'm not one of them... i just know there's very very little out there.. but i'm not a root kit virgin
[11:39] <Tasha_> I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5
[11:39] <dooglus> NET||abuse: as far as I can see, that's wreckless advice.  if someone's concerned enough to ask, the least we can do is be honest with them.
[11:39] <ompaul> LDSJedi, the program you want to install
[11:39] <pizux> is someon has install daphne emulator on ubuntu dapper ?
[11:40] <v-mack> kriswood: if you can't get over the GUI, then idk what to tell you
[11:40] <gnomefreak> farshim_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:40] <pizux> don't works
[11:40] <rayston> BlueEagle :I PM'd you the output of that command, I hope that was okay
[11:40] <NET||abuse> dooglus, hmm, actually, point taken.. you're right.
[11:40] <dooglus> udo: "linux-source" is the kernel source.  it's what you need to compile it...
[11:40] <McNutella> ive installed java, and firefox still asks for it ?
[11:40] <KrisWood> I'm looking for something that has a media library, and can set up playlists, etc
[11:40] <billybennett> I did an update yesterday and it required a restart and since that when I open a new program it seems like the animation when new windows come up lags, does anyone know how to stop that?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> McNutella: dapper?
[11:40] <dooglus> NET||abuse: what do you mean by "root kit virgin"?
[11:40] <McNutella> gnomefreak, nope
[11:40] <v-mack> kriswood: try running "totem" and see what happens
[11:40] <BlueEagle> made: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15945
[11:40] <nomin> does anyone in here know how to make package a program for ubuntu and get in in the repositories?  I found a great program for keyboard and mouse emulation with a joystick or gamepad, but it's not available for ubunut.  I tried installing the deb package for it but the dependencies are a problem.  Here is the program I think A LOT of ubunut users would enjoy:  http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[11:40] <gnomefreak> McNutella: what version?
[11:40] <sash1> anyone else has Radeon 7500? where you able to accelerate it?
[11:40] <BlueEagle> rayston: Well I didn't recieve it so you might not be registered.
[11:40] <udo> dooglus how can i compile it
[11:41] <McNutella> version of what gnomefreak
[11:41] <nomin> *ubuntu
[11:41] <gnomefreak> McNutella: ubuntu?
[11:41] <LDSJedi> Ok sorry.. I'm a little lost...
[11:41] <VitaminG> kriswood: basically as close to WMP as possible?
[11:41] <BlueEagle> rayston: try !pastebin
[11:41] <KrisWood> v-mack: nothing happens when I type totem
[11:41] <rayston> oh, is it okay if I spam the channel with it?
[11:41] <rayston> !pastebin
[11:41] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:41] <ompaul> rayston, NO
[11:41] <McNutella> gnomefreak, the prior version
[11:41] <KrisWood> yeah, as close to WMP or itunes as possible
[11:41] <rayston> kay
[11:41] <NET||abuse> dooglus, i was hit by some kinda root access bug once.. not sure of the exact nature,, but it buggered a system on me.... still... the vice roy of the ivory tower will still condem you to the rectal banana inserter!!
[11:41] <KrisWood> something like winamp would be a bare minimum
[11:41] <Ackeubu_> anyone using enlightenment? I cant configure themes. is enlightenment the vs 16 at default from synaptic?
[11:41] <McNutella> 5.10 gnomefreak I imagine
[11:41] <dooglus> udo: I suggest working through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:41] <LDSJedi> When I ran Breezy I could go to Add/Remove and select from lists of things in difference areas.. I cannot do this on Dapper?
[11:41] <farshim_> gnomefreak: I don;t have the command curl-config also...
[11:41] <gnomefreak> McNutella: iirc there is a plugin in multiverse for java 1.5 install that and restart ff should work than
[11:41] <sash1> anyone else has Radeon 7500? where you able to accelerate it?
[11:42] <KrisWood> totem just sits there when I try to run it, nothing comes up
[11:42] <NET||abuse> LDSJedi, you mean packages? something like synaptic?
[11:42] <McNutella> gnomefreak, ok Ill try
[11:42] <wastrel> radeon 7500 should work with the open source driver sash1
[11:42] <wimpies> The mount point of my USB pen drive seems to be different when I boot or when I reinsert.
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sash1 -about ati
[11:42] <Bassetts> when using screen, how do i close a screen
[11:42] <LDSJedi> NET // I mean the Add/Remove under the "Applications" menu
[11:42] <VitaminG> kriswood: yeah, totem isn't real great. what other players have you tried
[11:42] <NET||abuse> sash1, yeh, i am on one now, and running Xgl on it
[11:42] <wimpies> how can I make sure that the PEN always mounts on the same location ?
[11:42] <rayston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15947
[11:42] <ompaul> LDSJedi, you can - I was giving terminal commands  - if your playing with firestarter I assumed you know more than you do about linux
[11:42] <rayston> BlueEagle : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15947
[11:42] <NET||abuse> use the "ati" driver..
[11:42] <dooglus> Bassetts: just "exit" from the shell - that'll close it gently.  otherwise control-a control-k will kill it hard
[11:43] <v-mack> swim: check this link out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187789&highlight=gtkpod+error
[11:43] <KrisWood> so far I've tried xine and gstreamer, but neither seemed to even start running at all
[11:43] <N9URK> gnomefreak: no more ideas?
[11:43] <jrib> Bassetts: ctrl-a ?   <-- that will give you a nice list of commands
[11:43] <v-mack> swim: sounds like your problem
[11:43] <KrisWood> and mplayer is ok-ish I guess
[11:43] <KrisWood> and I've used VLC on windows and hated it
[11:43] <LDSJedi> Sorry complete noob that click on the FireStarter icon...
[11:43] <Bassetts> dooglus, thanks, i can type nothing in the shell
[11:43] <gnomefreak> N9URK: not off hand but i thought 755 was usr privledges
[11:43] <v-mack> kriswood, im trying to figureout what happened to your totem - totem is the default video player
[11:43] <KrisWood> on windows I was using WMP and MPC, on macs I usually use itunes
[11:43] <mmmiiikkkeee> internet not working... did lspci the controller is listed... did ifup eth0   but it says  eth0 is unknown..... what should i do now?
[11:44] <KrisWood> v-mack: it stopped working when I installed xine
[11:44] <Bassetts> dooglus, ctrl a k doesnt work
[11:44] <rayston> BlueEagle : dja get that last?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> for some reason i am thinking 777 is "root"
[11:44] <dooglus> Bassetts: maybe you typed control-a control-s or some such.  that will stop you typing in a screen
[11:44] <farshim_> gnomefreak: Now it complains differently
[11:44] <eventide> mmmiiikkkeee: does "dmesg | grep eth" turn up anything? (like eth1 maybe)
[11:44] <N9URK> gnomefreak: ok thanks for trying.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> give me a min i have to reload this
[11:44] <BlueEagle> rayston: I cannot see why xorg would be using any of the backup files nor the /etc/xorg.conf file(s)
[11:44] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, 777 in perms is "everyone can read/write/execute"
[11:44] <VitaminG> kriswood: gstreamer is just a set of codecs, so it wouldn't start, but xine should start fine, as long as you installed the xine-ui package, not the xine package
[11:44] <Bassetts> ctrl a x brings up "screen is used by bassetts
[11:44] <frying_fish> wimpies: you could set up a udev rule
[11:44] <NET||abuse> can you search for songs in xmms???
[11:45] <frying_fish> search the forums and such for information on how to do that.
[11:45] <NET||abuse> f3, ctrl-f/s don't work??
[11:45] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: define "search"
[11:45] <LDSJedi> ok thanks guys..
[11:45] <Tasha_> briareus: I edited it but now it still says 7 at boot and doesnt boot to anything'
[11:45] <KrisWood> well, divx seems to be working in mplayer, gonna try an xvid file now...
[11:45] <LDSJedi> I need to run..
[11:45] <Tasha_> I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5
[11:45] <eventide> NET||abuse: "j" if I remember correctly
[11:45] <rayston> is there any way to confirm what file xorg IS using? I mean, that has to be in a file somewhere right?
[11:45] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: do you mean jump to (if so it is j)
[11:45] <NET||abuse> frying_fish, well, can you find a song in your playlist.... ohh. j,,, thanks!! :)
[11:45] <LDSJedi> Happy Father's Day to any other Dads here.
[11:45] <dooglus> Bassetts: "control-a x" locks the screen.  type your password to unlock it
[11:45] <McNutella> happy birthday to me ;)
[11:45] <Bassetts> dooglus: that isnt working, how to i find the pid to kill the program thats in the screen??
[11:45] <NET||abuse> ahhh!!! j, that's it! thanks:)
[11:45] <frying_fish> rayston: what "file"??
[11:45] <rayston> BlueEagle : is there any way to confirm what file xorg IS using? I mean, that has to be in a file somewhere right?
[11:45] <dooglus> Bassetts: no need.  did you try "control-a k" as opposed to "control-a control-k"?
[11:46] <Bassetts> i did dooglus
[11:46] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: are there any particular plugins you need from xmms, as if not I would recommend audacious, its a new development on xmms
[11:46] <KrisWood> yay xvid works :)
[11:46] <frying_fish> basically, has nice shiny menus and some other cool things.
[11:46] <nox-Hand> Hey, I am trying to get XGL on my ATI card. I get this >> Unrecognised option vt7 when I start gdm now ;|
[11:46] <dooglus> Bassetts: you tried both ways?  k and control-k?
[11:46] <v-mack> KrisWood: what are you playing it in
[11:46] <rayston> frying_fish : my xorg.conf file is not in X11, yet, Iam able to boot all the way into Gnome just fine
[11:46] <KrisWood> mplayer
[11:46] <Bassetts> ahh got it dooglus
[11:46] <mmmiiikkkeee> dmesg says "peer interface eth0 not found, will wait for it to come up" and "bridge-eth0: attached"
[11:46] <Bassetts> cheers
[11:46] <frying_fish> rayston: is it in ~/xorg.conf
[11:46] <KrisWood> the interface isn't pretty but it works for now I guess
[11:46] <UKMatt> whats the difference between "Metacity", "GDM", and "GTK 1.x"/"GTK 2.x" in themes?
[11:46] <frying_fish> and look in logs, particularily the xorg logs, that should tell you.
[11:46] <NET||abuse> frying_fish, hmm, an intersting suggestion... can i apt-get that?
[11:47] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: not quite yet
[11:47] <v-mack> kriswood, i prefer mplayer, haha
[11:47] <rayston> frying_fish : no, but it is in /etc/xorg.conf ...could that be it?
[11:47] <frying_fish> however, I have built a deb of the latest svn
[11:47] <KrisWood> oh also when I followed the wiki instructions for getting 1280x1024 resolution for my ATI card, my tablet stopped working
[11:47] <frying_fish> rayston: most likely.
[11:47] <rayston> where are the xorg logs?
[11:47] <dooglus> Bassetts: incidentally, if you run "ps -Hfubassets" it will show your processes in a 'tree', so you can see which are inside screen
[11:47] <KrisWood> and I still can't get 1280x1024
[11:47] <VitaminG> ukmatt: meatcity is window borders, gtk themes are the application themes that control what the rest of the window looks like.
[11:47] <v-mack> kriswood, just for the heckof it try "killall totem" in a terminal for me
[11:47] <frying_fish> rayston: /sys/log/
[11:47] <UKMatt> vitaminG, ty whats GDM?
[11:47] <eventide> mmmiiikkkeee: well, I'm stumped, but that error message is something to search for maybe...
[11:48] <KrisWood> v-mack: oooh it worked, thanks :D
[11:48] <v-mack> kriswood: sweet
[11:48] <VitaminG> ukmatt: i think GDM is the login screen themes
[11:48] <NET||abuse> ok,, then my last issue i have here.. is how to connect to my wifi network :( got the bcm43xx drivers all working, network-admin task tray drop down sees the ssid's intersecting in my room,,, but i can't connect to either of the one's i own...
[11:48] <v-mack> kriswood, now, do you have codec problems still?
[11:48] <KrisWood> now to fix my tablet and screen resolution
[11:48] <UKMatt> vitaming, tyvm!
[11:48] <N9URK> Anyone else have any idea as to why I can run "sudo firefox" and it opens but "firefox" will not?  perms are set to 777
[11:48] <alnr> where (file) can I hack the screen res, the livecd booted to only 640x480 and the screenres tool offers no higher
[11:48] <AshDragon> I am running Breezy Badger... I need help setting up a network (want to connect my Laptop (running Windows XP) to my Linux Box going through a wireless router). I have the Linux box connecting to the router and I have the Windows laptop connected also... They will not find each other.. how can I fix this?
[11:48] <KrisWood> v-mack: no, it seems like the gstreamer codecs are working for me
[11:48] <NET||abuse> they ask for wep or wpa personal keys and jjust sit there failing to connect for about 2 minutes :(
[11:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> where do i search
[11:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> ?
[11:48] <BlueEagle> rayston: I do not know
[11:48] <v-mack> kriswood: so now you need 1280x1024?
[11:48] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: I shall upload audacious to my webspace
[11:48] <dooglus> N9URK: does "mozilla-firefox" work?
[11:48] <KrisWood> yeah
[11:49] <rayston> I have no /sys/log folder either
[11:49] <NET||abuse> frying_fish, nice :) thanks ;)
[11:49] <N9URK> dooglus: no, it does not
[11:49] <KrisWood> how do I install current drivers for my ATI Radeon 9800 and how do I set my xorg to use 1280x1024 resolution?
[11:49] <eventide> mmmiiikkkeee: ubuntuforums.org, google, or keep asking here. sorry that I can't help
[11:49] <sash1> wastrel: the deafault ati driver is ok. but I get only 160 FPS in glxgears
[11:49] <dooglus> N9URK: my guess is that your profile was created by root, not your user.  try making a new profile
[11:50] <frying_fish> KrisWood: look in synaptics for the fglrx driver
[11:50] <v-mack> kriswood, try looking at the forums for that, i am unfamiliar with ATi stuff
[11:50] <dooglus> N9URK: run "firefox -ProfileManager"
[11:50] <frying_fish> and making it do 1280x1024, edit xorg.conf to have that settings
[11:50] <KrisWood> frying_fish: synaptics?
[11:50] <N9URK> dooglus: tnx will try
[11:50] <frying_fish> KrisWood: system->administration->synaptic package manager
[11:50] <farshim_> Any ideas about [libgetdate.a]  Error 127?
[11:50] <frying_fish> since you obviously won't be comfortable with a command line.
[11:50] <ompaul> mmmiiikkkeee, this mailing list --> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users  it is very busy but searching its archives can be useful
[11:50] <N9URK> dooglus: nothing
[11:51] <dooglus> N9URK: you don't see any errors either?
[11:51] <someothernick> KrisWood, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:51] <N9URK> dooglus: no errors it just brings the next command line
[11:51] <AshDragon> I am running Breezy Badger... I need help setting up a network (want to connect my Laptop (running Windows XP) to my Linux Box going through a wireless router). I have the Linux box connecting to the router and I have the Windows laptop connected also... They will not find each other.. how can I fix this?
[11:51] <sash1> The default ATI driver is ok for my Radeon 7500 M7. But I get only 160 FPS in glxgears. :(
[11:51] <N9URK> dooglus: "sudo firefox -ProfileManager" works
[11:52] <KrisWood> someothernick: thanks :)
[11:52] <someothernick> np :)
[11:52] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: look in your pm's
[11:52] <dooglus> N9URK: what if you "mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.broken" and try "firefox" again?
[11:52] <mister_roboto> does anyone here use Skype?
[11:52] <KrisWood> oh wow this is confusing
[11:52] <Knight488> anyone know the name of the program to edit my x config files? I accedently broke something and lost my gui...
[11:52] <ompaul> Sky|off, why the nick changing spam
[11:53] <dooglus> Knight488: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:53] <siriusnova> anyone here using the open source radeon driver?
[11:53] <frying_fish> KrisWood: its really not confusing
[11:53] <frying_fish> read it slowly, and follow what it says, it isn't that hard.
[11:53] <Knight488> dooglus thank you very much, afk to try
[11:53] <N9URK> dooglus: Bingo
[11:53] <ompaul> Sky|off, use /away Announce Your Gone And Leave Your Message Here
[11:53] <NET||abuse> thanks frying_fish  :)
[11:53] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: you're welcome
[11:53] <N9URK> dooglus: It works - THANKS
[11:53] <NET||abuse> sorry, was just trying to wget it in console, wasn't looking :)
[11:53] <siriusnova> Anyone at all using the X.org "ati" or "radeon" driver?
[11:54] <farshim_> How can I get curl-config?
[11:54] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: its ok,
[11:54] <KrisWood> I understand synaptic well enough but the wiki link for installing drivers confuses me
[11:54] <frying_fish> I just made the msg here so you knew you had a pm.
[11:54] <dooglus> N9URK: you'll have lost your bookmarks, cache, history, plugins, and anything else firefox-related.  it's all in ~/.mozilla.broken - but there's something bad in there too.  blow it away if you don't care for bookmarks, etc.
[11:54] <NET||abuse> frying_fish, just got the url right this time ;) gottit now
[11:54] <N9URK> dooglus: not a problem as I have not used firefox yet (just installed ubu yesterday)
[11:54] <eventide> siriusnova: radeon driver with 9200SE ...
[11:55] <Tasha_> I changed my default runlevel to 5 by editing /etc/inittab but at boot it says 7 which isnt a runlevel how do I make it 5
[11:55] <siriusnova> eventide - can you do me a favor?
[11:55] <KrisWood> ok installed the fglx-control package, I hope that was the right one, now what?
[11:55] <dooglus> N9URK: so: "sudo /bin/rm -fr ~/.mozilla.broken" (be careful how you type that!)
[11:55] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: :)
[11:55] <siriusnova> eventide - go here http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com , what's your cpu usage?
[11:55] <dooglus> N9URK: in particular, there's no space after the ~
[11:55] <BSG75> anyone know why I am getting mount: Stale NFS file handle and how to fix it?
[11:55] <siriusnova> my X.org hits 90% im wondering if its a bug in the X.org "radeon" driver
[11:55] <mister_roboto> does anyone here use Skype on [k] ubuntu?
[11:55] <de4dpixel> does anyone know if its possible to run evolution in the background
[11:56] <frying_fish> KrisWood: do you actually have the driver running, as in does typing fglrx into a terminal produce anything useful.
[11:56] <dooglus> mister_roboto: I have done.
[11:56] <frying_fish> if so, then just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <socal> anybody know the requirements for XGL ?
[11:56] <N9URK> dooglus: thanks for the help.  It seems to work
[11:56] <ompaul> !xgl
[11:56] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:56] <frying_fish> and looking at how that is laid out is really simple to add in 1280x1024
[11:56] <KrisWood> fglrx does nothing and how do I tell if it's running?
[11:56] <ompaul> socal, ^^ please check the message from the ubotu a couple of lines above, thanks
[11:56] <AshDragon> I am running Breezy Badger... I need help setting up a network (want to connect my Laptop (running Windows XP) to my Linux Box going through a wireless router). I have the Linux box connecting to the router and I have the Windows laptop connected also... They will not find each other.. how can I fix this?
[11:56] <mister_roboto> dooglus: did you have a problem "/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy" ?   and if so, how did you fix it?  i get no sound from skype
[11:56] <dooglus> mister_roboto: to do so, I added "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian stable non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list and installed 'skype'
[11:56] <socal> thanks
[11:56] <Hash> hy
[11:57] <mister_roboto> dooglus: ok, i'll try installing that one.   thanks
[11:57] <HellDragon> hi
[11:57] <eventide> siriusnova: mplayer was up to 80%, but then it stopped. music plays, but the blue balls don't seem to move
[11:57] <HellDragon> i got this problem:
[11:57] <dooglus> mister_roboto: I had lots of problems with sound on linux, especially skype.  I did fix it, but I don't know which of the 43,240 things I tried actually worked...
[11:57] <HellDragon> jd@modemcable251:~$ fglrxinfo
[11:57] <HellDragon> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:57] <mister_roboto> dooglus: lol.  i know what you mean
[11:57] <siriusnova> eventide - so its slow right? the graphics move slowly?
[11:57] <Hash> woW
[11:58] <v-mack> ashdragon: check www.ubuntuforums.org, and look under their networking section... i know im not the most help but i beleive there are some HOWtos there
[11:58] <dooglus> mister_roboto: killing 'esd' is always a good start, and making sure nothing else is trying to use the sound card at the same time.
[11:58] <eventide> siriusnova: yes, very jerky until they stop
[11:58] <NET||abuse> frying_fish, hah,, ok.. i load up my m3u of mp3's and try to play.. the path is fine.. it comes up with a blank error box.
[11:58] <siriusnova> eventide - okay good then its not just me :)
[11:58] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: really, odd.
[11:58] <NET||abuse> yup :)
[11:58] <mister_roboto> dooglus: that's just the point though. if sound mixing is working correctly, they will ALL work at same time, which is precisely what i want
[11:58] <pennypacker> anyone can get zapping working
[11:58] <AshDragon> v-mack: Thanks
[11:58] <frying_fish> NET||abuse: can it just handle a single file?
[11:59] <eventide> siriusnova: i think every ytmnd i've seen hasn't been exactly smooth, but I don't trust the mplayer firefox plugin much either
[11:59] <dooglus> mister_roboto: except some programs don't talk to the mixer, they talk directly to the sound card, stopping anything else from using it.
[11:59] <KanRiNiN> ubotu tell KanRiNiN about compiling
[11:59] <siriusnova> eventide - its chuggy even without mplayer, i tried it in swiftfox without plugins and it was slow as snot
[11:59] <KrisWood> brb changing a poopy diaper then back to video drivers
[11:59] <mister_roboto> dooglus: in that case, i'd like to figure out how to redirect those programs to talk to a mixing device, if possible.   pretty much a noob at linux sound here