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| Burgundavia | hey all | 01:31 |
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| HedgeMage | hi Burgundavia | 01:59 |
| HedgeMage | what's up? | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | not mucg | 02:00 |
| Burgundavia | recovering from my trip | 02:00 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 02:03 |
| Burgundavia | leave again Wednesday, so don't have much time for Ubuntu | 02:03 |
| HedgeMage | aww | 02:04 |
| HedgeMage | you're allowed to have a real life, you know ;) | 02:04 |
| Burgundavia | yep, this one pays the bills too | 02:04 |
| HedgeMage | heh I could use one of those | 02:05 |
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| HedgeMage | hi arkan0x | 02:45 |
| arkan0x | hi HedgeMage | 02:45 |
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| HedgeMage | is it just me or has it been a while since we last did an edubuntu newsletter? | 05:55 |
| crimsun | been a while iirc | 05:57 |
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| === HedgeMage ponders | ||
| HedgeMage | I think when highvoltage is next around, I'll prod him to set up an area on the web site so they're easier to keep track of. | 06:00 |
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| HedgeMage | hiya highvoltage | 08:15 |
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| highvoltage | hiya HedgeMage | 08:15 |
| HedgeMage | what's up? | 08:15 |
| highvoltage | how are things? | 08:15 |
| highvoltage | well, first day of ubuntu summit about to start in ~45 minutes | 08:16 |
| HedgeMage | not bad... just the usual. I actually had something I wanted to ask you if you have a moment. | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | just checking mail and stuff | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | sure | 08:16 |
| HedgeMage | Do we currently have a spot on edubuntu.org for the newsletters, or could you would you make one? | 08:17 |
| Burgundavia | hey highvoltage | 08:17 |
| === Burgundavia wishes he were in Paris | ||
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| HedgeMage | aha, jsgotangco the other person I wanted to bug on that subject if possible | 08:19 |
| jsgotangco | bonjour madamoiselle HedgeMage | 08:19 |
| HedgeMage | Hiya hon, enjoying your trip so far? | 08:20 |
| jsgotangco | pretty good we went to the lourve yesterday and did the tourist thing | 08:20 |
| HedgeMage | I am sooo jealous! | 08:21 |
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| HedgeMage | jsgotangco: I just suggested to highvoltage that it might be nice to make a spot on the web site for the newsletters so they are a bit more promenant. I've had a few people ask about it, and I had to dig it up from list archives. | 08:23 |
| HedgeMage | jsgotangco: I was also wondering if I could write a small spot on Cookbook progress for future ones. | 08:24 |
| highvoltage | HedgeMage: that's a good idea | 08:24 |
| highvoltage | HedgeMage: i'll get that in | 08:24 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: thanks :) | 08:25 |
| HedgeMage | that'll save me pasting it into emails for people ;) | 08:25 |
| highvoltage | yeah. | 08:26 |
| jsgotangco | hold on | 08:26 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: also, is it meant to be a monthly thing or how often? (so I know when I should be writing these) | 08:26 |
| HedgeMage | sorry, meant jsgotangco ^^^ | 08:26 |
| jsgotangco | hold on talking to my wife explaining why i spent 10 on water alone hahaha | 08:27 |
| HedgeMage | rofl | 08:27 |
| HedgeMage | hi jsgotangco's wife! | 08:27 |
| highvoltage | heh | 08:28 |
| jsgotangco | dude 4 for a bottle of spring water | 08:28 |
| jsgotangco | its much cheaper to grab a pepsi | 08:28 |
| HedgeMage | wow | 08:28 |
| HedgeMage | that's like $7 US or thereabouts, isn't it? | 08:28 |
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| HedgeMage | hi LaserJock_ | 08:29 |
| LaserJock_ | hi | 08:29 |
| LaserJock_ | HedgeMage: I don't have any pictures yet, highvoltage has got some goods ones though | 08:31 |
| HedgeMage | cool :) | 08:31 |
| HedgeMage | I can't wait | 08:31 |
| HedgeMage | are you having fun? | 08:31 |
| LaserJock_ | yeah | 08:32 |
| LaserJock_ | little sleep | 08:33 |
| LaserJock_ | but fun | 08:33 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 08:34 |
| HedgeMage | I wish I were there with you guys :) | 08:34 |
| LaserJock_ | yeah | 08:35 |
| LaserJock_ | we had some good edubuntu discussions already | 08:35 |
| HedgeMage | oooh! like? | 08:35 |
| HedgeMage | I'm sorry, you probably don't want to sit here and rehash it all :) | 08:36 |
| HedgeMage | don't worry about it | 08:36 |
| highvoltage | HedgeMage: i don't have my camera cable with me, i'll upload tonight :) | 08:37 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: np... I know you all are busy with things more important than letting my live vicariously your adventures ;) | 08:37 |
| LaserJock_ | HedgeMage: one laptop per child | 08:37 |
| LaserJock_ | HedgeMage: what we want to see in the futur in Edubuntu | 08:38 |
| === HedgeMage nods | ||
| HedgeMage | BTW, while I have all of you busy people in here... anyone have a good calendar app for Linux? | 08:38 |
| LaserJock_ | hmm | 08:39 |
| LaserJock_ | evo? I think you can get sunbird too | 08:40 |
| HedgeMage | I'll try 'em both. | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | HedgeMage: get Dates. It runs on top of eds | 08:40 |
| HedgeMage | eds? | 08:40 |
| Burgundavia | evolution-data-server | 08:41 |
| HedgeMage | ahh | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | the backend part of evo | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | http://projects.o-hand.com/dates | 08:41 |
| HedgeMage | I don't use evolution for mail, so I'd prefer something more stand-alone... | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | it is standalone, that is the brilliant part | 08:41 |
| HedgeMage | ooh | 08:42 |
| HedgeMage | interesting | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | all it uses is the same backend, but that means it also integrate into your panel just like evo | 08:42 |
| Burgundavia | it is the direction evo should be taking | 08:42 |
| HedgeMage | I used to use a paper planner, I really like that better, but, well, I have a toddler :P | 08:42 |
| HedgeMage | it's just one more thing I have to keep out of his reach | 08:42 |
| HedgeMage | so I want to *try* keeping my calendar on the laptop once it's back from surgery | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | I have tried and failed | 08:43 |
| LaserJock_ | my boss uses emacs for all that | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | anyway, need to sleep | 08:43 |
| HedgeMage | LaserJock_: you can use emacs for everything! | 08:43 |
| HedgeMage | LaserJock_: especially for catching up on email, usenet, and IRC while dumb TAs see emacs and think you are coding | 08:43 |
| LaserJock_ | hehe | 08:44 |
| highvoltage | HedgeMage: cal? | 08:44 |
| HedgeMage | hrm, was hoping to narrow it down to one or two to try... | 08:45 |
| LaserJock_ | in Linux? never! | 08:45 |
| HedgeMage | rofl | 08:45 |
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| LaserJock_ | hi rodarvus ;-) | 08:48 |
| rodarvus | good morning :) | 08:48 |
| LaserJock_ | rodarvus: how was breakfast? | 08:48 |
| HedgeMage | hi rodarvus | 08:48 |
| rodarvus | good, good, I'm full :) | 08:49 |
| rodarvus | HedgeMage, hi there! | 08:49 |
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| HedgeMage | :) | 08:49 |
| HedgeMage | whohoo! party time! everyone's showing up in here now :) | 08:50 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: what's the url for your blog? | 08:56 |
| HedgeMage | That reminds me, I need to blog some more | 08:57 |
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| HedgeMage | jsgotangco: any idea when I should have a cookbook blurb for you for the newsletter? | 09:22 |
| jsgotangco | well if you want you can also liaise with mgalvin if im not around, he published the newsletter every weekend | 09:23 |
| HedgeMage | ahh cool | 09:24 |
| HedgeMage | every weekend? I think I've missed some... I only got the first one, which I believe you posted. | 09:25 |
| HedgeMage | must have lost 'em when my lappy died | 09:25 |
| jsgotangco | we dont publish different newsletters anymore we've just created one big newsletter covering all projects | 09:25 |
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| HedgeMage | ahh okay | 09:27 |
| HedgeMage | that's why I was confused then | 09:27 |
| HedgeMage | I somehow thought Edubuntu was just doing them less often | 09:27 |
| HedgeMage | I'm glad I asked about it :) | 09:28 |
| jsgotangco | sorry about the confusion | 09:28 |
| HedgeMage | np, I'm easily confused :) | 09:28 |
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| cbx33 | pygi: you got a sec? | 09:47 |
| Amaranth | ok, i think i have my bayesian stuff working now | 09:48 |
| Amaranth | but i cheated | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | oh hang on maybe I can do this another way | 09:48 |
| Amaranth | i went back to the original "load everything in memory at once and pickle it to save" code | 09:48 |
| cbx33 | Amaranth: hehe | 09:48 |
| Amaranth | i'll probably spend the week reading research papers so i can figure out how all of this really works | 09:49 |
| cbx33 | :p | 09:49 |
| Amaranth | i only have an elementary understanding right now | 09:49 |
| LaserJock_ | cbx33: hi! | 09:49 |
| cbx33 | hey LaserJock_ | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | you in paris? | 09:50 |
| LaserJock_ | yes | 09:50 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 09:50 |
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| LaserJock_ | sitting next to ogra, rodarvus, highvoltage, jsgotangco, and jdub | 09:51 |
| cbx33 | say hi to them all for me :p | 09:51 |
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| Amaranth | cool | 09:52 |
| cbx33 | I'm so angry I didn't know I had to add my specs to the Paris Summit | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | i wish i could be there :( | 09:52 |
| cbx33 | I missed getting them in the approval line :( | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | Evolution notified me that i had a meeting called "Ubuntu Developer Summit" and i got sad | 09:53 |
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| LaserJock | cbx33: ah, not to worry, I don't think it will matter too much | 09:56 |
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| LaserJock | heh | 09:57 |
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| cbx33 | LaserJock: howz it going, what's it like? | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | "Handling Redundancy In Email Token Probabilities" | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | Looks like a fun read. | 10:07 |
| cbx33 | Amaranth: know much python? | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | yeah | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | couod I pick ya brains? | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | it's a quickie | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | btw, it's only 9am (i think) in paris | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | so i doubt they've done much yet | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | hehe true true | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | ask away | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | ok, I need to create a progress bar for the output of rsync | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: it's pretty cool, had breakfast with Mark | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock: ex ellent ...WOW | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | Amaranth: I'm trying to read the stdout | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | with a PIPE | 10:09 |
| LaserJock | we had like 15-20 guys hanging out in the lobby | 10:09 |
| Amaranth | trying to read the stdout? | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | but you generate the stdout | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | from rsync | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | ah | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | I'm using a subprocess | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | good luck with that | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:10 |
| cbx33 | thought you might say something like that | 10:11 |
| Amaranth | i've never done it | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | it's not easy | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | I'm trying to use read() | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | and specifying some byte size | 10:11 |
| Amaranth | This paper is so boring I think I'd rather go do some mathematical proofs. | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 10:11 |
| Amaranth | And I hate doing proofs. | 10:11 |
| cbx33 | ah derivations were soooo boring but sometimes so satisfying | 10:11 |
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| cbx33 | but truth is I've probably forgotten a lot of it by now | 10:12 |
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| cbx33 | non-linear differential equations in 3 dimensional space....ahhh....what a giggle | 10:12 |
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| Amaranth | 'It is useful for us to assume a "null hypothesis" that the f(w)'s are drawn from a population of random variables that is uniformly distributed and statistically independent. This assumption is false, of course.' | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | ahhh hypotheses | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | so anything you would give me a tip on Amaranth | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | with the whole python and reading stdout | 10:13 |
| Amaranth | os.popen('rsync foo') | 10:14 |
| Amaranth | err | 10:14 |
| Amaranth | fd = os.popen('rsync foo') | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | while data = fd.read(1024): | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | print 'i should do something' | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | you can't really do that while line | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | but it's a quick explanation of what to do | 10:15 |
| crimsun | cbx33: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=show&file=faq23.020.htp | 10:17 |
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| crimsun | cbx33: james is online as jamesh, but he may be busy | 10:19 |
| pc22 | hi DanielC | 10:21 |
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| LaserJock | highvoltage: how's your power? | 10:40 |
| cbx33 | hanxs crimsun | 10:52 |
| DanielC | What's the usual Ubuntu runlevel? I ran the "runlevel" command and it says 2. Shouldn't that be 5? | 11:20 |
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| DanielC | ping? | 11:20 |
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| DanielC | Ok, a few people just entered the room. Maybe someone can tell me the usual Ubuntu runlevel. | 11:20 |
| DanielC | The "runlevel" command says "2" but I was expecting "5". | 11:21 |
| DanielC | Isn't 5 the runlevel for networking+X11 ? | 11:21 |
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| LaserJock | jsgotangco, highvoltage, rodarvus : power? | 11:39 |
| jsgotangco | im connected at jdub's uber extension | 11:39 |
| LaserJock | heh, me too | 11:39 |
| rodarvus | I need to connect my laptop to a powersource | 11:40 |
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| EmxBA | hi! | 11:40 |
| rodarvus | you you have any free spot on the connector, I'd be very thankful :) | 11:41 |
| EmxBA | anyone heard of my artwork? | 11:41 |
| EmxBA | now it is available at ubuntu.juliux.de/stuff/emx/edubuntu | 11:41 |
| rodarvus | thanks guys :) | 11:42 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: i'm fine for now thanks | 11:47 |
| EmxBA | hi highvoltage | 11:48 |
| EmxBA | haven't seen you for days :) | 11:48 |
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| cbx33 | or are you tryingto give us the Paris experience :p | 11:50 |
| EmxBA | anyone coming to possible debconf7 in sarajevo, bosnia and herzegovina? | 11:50 |
| cbx33 | hey ogra, ograsync is getting there :) I have the rsync tie in working fine :p | 11:50 |
| DanielC | Does anyone know the default runlevel of Ubuntu? When I run "runlevel" it says 2. Shouldn't that be 5? (networking+XWindows). | 11:51 |
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| crimsun | DanielC: like most, if not all, Debian-based distros, it's 2. | 12:15 |
| DanielC | crimsun: That's interesting. | 12:15 |
| crimsun | DanielC: Debian doesn't play runlevel games. Runlevels 2-5 are identical. | 12:15 |
| DanielC | I see. | 12:16 |
| DanielC | Thanks for the info. | 12:16 |
| crimsun | np | 12:16 |
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| cbx33 | why is it the line DanielC: Debian doesn't play runlevel games. keeps putting the word Quake into my head | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | it's too early | 12:46 |
| DanielC | he he | 12:46 |
| DanielC | You a quake fan? | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | yeh... | 12:47 |
| cbx33 | well was | 12:47 |
| DanielC | ok :) | 12:47 |
| DanielC | I sucked at it. | 12:48 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:49 |
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| kbrooks | cbx33: ping | 01:42 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: #gisomount | 01:42 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: thanks | 01:42 |
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| cbx33 | kbrooks: I can;t get in there today | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | I'm on cgiirc at the mo | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | can you pm me? | 01:52 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: yes | 01:52 |
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| kbrooks | bbl school | 02:01 |
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| EmxBA | hi | 03:09 |
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| cbx33 | woot | 04:09 |
| cbx33 | anyone near ogra? | 04:09 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: yes, about 300km | 04:11 |
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| Yagisan | G'day jsgotangco | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 04:30 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: thanks to our resident HedgeMage I have a shiny new cloak :) | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | really? | 04:31 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: so, what have you been up to ? | 04:31 |
| Yagisan | jsgotangco: yep. | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | Yagisan: im in paris beside ogra | 04:32 |
| Yagisan | lucky guy | 04:32 |
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| Petaris | To use ltsp do I need to grab edubuntu or can I grab xubuntu and apt-get ltsp? | 05:14 |
| DanielC | Use edubuntu | 05:15 |
| Petaris | DanielC: And then just apt-get xubuntu? | 05:16 |
| DanielC | I'd guess: xubuntu-desktop | 05:16 |
| DanielC | Note: I haven't tried this myself. | 05:16 |
| Petaris | ok | 05:16 |
| Petaris | I'll give that a try | 05:17 |
| DanielC | Let me know if it works, I'd be interested to know. | 05:17 |
| Petaris | well, thats how I did it last time | 05:18 |
| Petaris | but I was curious if I could avoid getting all the gnome and kde stuff | 05:19 |
| DanielC | Yes you can, but it's probably more difficult. | 05:19 |
| DanielC | Installing xubuntu-desktop afterwards is easier than configuring ltsp afterwards. | 05:20 |
| Petaris | ok | 05:20 |
| DanielC | But you can try it that way. You *will* get it to work eventually. I've never done it, but it can certainly be done. | 05:20 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:21 |
| Petaris | I might play with doing it that way then | 05:21 |
| Petaris | jsut for the hell of it | 05:21 |
| DanielC | It would be a learning experience. | 05:21 |
| DanielC | If I get a chance I think I'll try that too on a test server. | 05:21 |
| Petaris | yep, if its not difficult I could write a how-to | 05:22 |
| Petaris | DanielC: Dapper or Edgy? | 05:22 |
| DanielC | Dapper | 05:23 |
| Petaris | ok | 05:23 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: it is easier to install edubuntu first, but no, you don't need edubuntu installed to set up ltsp | 05:27 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: you can install xubuntu, then install ltsp, you'll just need to manually configure ltsp | 05:28 |
| Petaris | Yagisan: ok, I'm going to try using xubuntu as the base just to try it | 05:28 |
| Petaris | Yagisan: Is it the latest ltsp? | 05:28 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: I used normal ubuntu as the base for myself | 05:28 |
| DanielC | What's the advantage of using Xubuntu other than personal preference? | 05:28 |
| Petaris | I heard there is a new version out | 05:28 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: in dapper ? yes | 05:28 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: ltsp.org and ubuntu ltsp work differently | 05:29 |
| Petaris | DanielC: less overhead for terminals | 05:29 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: ubuntu's ltsp is the next generation version | 05:29 |
| DanielC | Gnome really adds overhead on the terminals? | 05:29 |
| Petaris | Yagisan: oh damn, thats right | 05:29 |
| Petaris | DanielC: compared to xfce4 it does | 05:29 |
| Yagisan | Petaris: sudo aptitude install ltsp and it's installed. Then you need to configure it | 05:29 |
| DanielC | ok | 05:30 |
| Petaris | Yagisan: right | 05:30 |
| Petaris | DanielC: When you are running a number of clients the overhead adds up | 05:30 |
| Petaris | its not like just running a single instance | 05:30 |
| DanielC | It isn't? | 05:32 |
| DanielC | Isn't that the whole point of using thin clients? | 05:32 |
| DanielC | That you don't have to duplicate the heap for every user? | 05:32 |
| Petaris | you get an instance for each client | 05:33 |
| Petaris | the point is low cost hardware and easy upgrade/managability | 05:33 |
| DanielC | But running two instances of Gnome on the same computer still shares the same heap. | 05:33 |
| DanielC | It's just the user data that changes. | 05:33 |
| DanielC | (and hence, can't be shared) | 05:33 |
| DanielC | The reason why the hardware is low cost is that you're not duplicating everything for every user. | 05:34 |
| Petaris | low cost hardware because no disk drives, and the bulk of the processing is done server side | 05:39 |
| DanielC | The reason why the server doesn't require the resources of 20 computers to run 20 clients is that you are not replicating everything. | 05:40 |
| DanielC | If a regular computer requires 512MB of RAM, running LTSP with 10 terminals does not require 5120MB of RAM. | 05:40 |
| DanielC | In fact, 1-2GB will do. | 05:41 |
| DanielC | Because 90% of what's in RAM is the heap (the code itself for the application) and that stuff is not replicated. | 05:41 |
| DanielC | It's the same reason why having two Firefox windows open doesn't take up twice as much RAM as having one. | 05:41 |
| Petaris | My perception in running is that xfce is faster and lighter then gnome | 05:43 |
| DanielC | I'm not arguing with that :) | 05:43 |
| Petaris | and thus was a better choice for a thin-client enviornment | 05:43 |
| DanielC | I didn't say Gnome was as fast as xfce. I said that you're not duplicating all of gnome for each user. | 05:43 |
| Petaris | perhaps not | 05:44 |
| DanielC | Whether it's better depends on what you are trying to accomplish. | 05:44 |
| Petaris | for me xfce does what I need | 05:44 |
| Petaris | I would love to know why OO.org eats so many more resources on edubuntu then on k12ltsp | 05:46 |
| Petaris | I wonder what the difference is | 05:46 |
| Petaris | was OO.org modified on one of these distros? | 05:47 |
| DanielC | No idea. | 05:47 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:47 |
| Petaris | hrm | 05:47 |
| Petaris | its odd | 05:48 |
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| Petaris | but then again the fc/redhat group is known for doing wierd things in packages | 05:48 |
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| EmxBA | hi | 07:15 |
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| kbrooks | cbx33: ping | 08:40 |
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| cbx33 | kbrooks, pong | 08:40 |
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| pc22 | hey DanielC | 08:42 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: you were confused... | 08:44 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: hold on, ill pm why | 08:44 |
| Petaris | Is there a resource on how to setup remote X over ssh | 08:46 |
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| cbx33 | ok | 08:48 |
| cbx33 | thanks kbrooks | 08:48 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: well, i dont have to pm. but anyway | 08:49 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: http://kbrooks.ath.cx/gisomount/ - this had a working tree | 08:49 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: .bzr/branch was "up to date" | 08:49 |
| kbrooks | cbx33: you were confused because you assumed that the *working tree* was old | 08:50 |
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| Petaris | hrm | 08:55 |
| Petaris | how can I start an xfce session over ssh? | 08:55 |
| Petaris | do I just issue a startx? | 08:57 |
| Petaris | I wouldn't think so | 08:57 |
| Petaris | *as X is already running on that system | 08:57 |
| dan_young | Petaris: can you ssh -X to the server, then Xnest -query localhost :1 | 09:01 |
| Petaris | hrm, I don't have Xnest | 09:02 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:03 |
| Petaris | is it safe to apt-get it? | 09:03 |
| Petaris | that is, will it scew up Xorg? | 09:03 |
| Petaris | or try to remove it or something | 09:03 |
| dan_young | Petaris: shouldn't be a problem, not sure what package it is in, just a sec.... | 09:04 |
| dan_young | Xnest goes on the system you're ssh'ing to, of course... | 09:04 |
| Petaris | right | 09:05 |
| Petaris | but its an ltsp server and I don't want to screw anything up | 09:05 |
| dan_young | sure, package name is xnest, it is just an "Xserver in a window" | 09:06 |
| Petaris | ok, cool | 09:06 |
| dan_young | Petaris: hmm, needs XDMCP on to do "remote" login, even though we're coming from localhost... | 09:08 |
| Petaris | root@Ayumi:~# Xnest -query localhost :1 | 09:09 |
| Petaris | Fatal server error: | 09:09 |
| Petaris | Unable to open display "". | 09:09 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:09 |
| Petaris | oh, oops I'm still root | 09:09 |
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| Petaris | petaris@Ayumi:~$ Xnest -query :1 | 09:10 |
| Petaris | Fatal server error: | 09:10 |
| Petaris | Xserver: Name or service not known: -query :1 | 09:10 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:10 |
| dan_young | Petaris: Xnest -query localhost :1 | 09:10 |
| dan_young | you'll have to edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and enable XDMCP | 09:10 |
| Petaris | petaris@Ayumi:~$ Xnest -query localhost :1 | 09:10 |
| Petaris | _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed | 09:10 |
| Petaris | _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running | 09:10 |
| Petaris | Fatal server error: | 09:10 |
| Petaris | Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running | 09:10 |
| Petaris | ok, let me check that | 09:11 |
| dan_young | Petaris: that does have some security implications to leave open on a hostile network, so be advised... | 09:11 |
| Petaris | right | 09:14 |
| Petaris | still can't get it to work | 09:14 |
| dan_young | Petaris: it's working on my K12LTSP box, not sure what's different... | 09:20 |
| dan_young | Petaris: I'm seeing the same issue on Edubuntu, though; I'm less familiar with their setup. | 09:21 |
| Petaris | hrm | 09:22 |
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| cbx33 | hey Yagisan | 10:20 |
| Yagisan | G'day cbx33 | 10:42 |
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| cbx33 | without looking | 10:52 |
| cbx33 | I see your messages function | 10:52 |
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