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Adam_eMwhy my kaffeine doesn't play videoCD ? This is the output12:11
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Adam_eMkaffeine: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_inp_vcd.so: undefined symbol: vcdinfo_get_seg_resolution12:12
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beavisis there a way to setup a hotkey for .com .net .org completion like in firefox?  ctrl+enter etc12:22
beavisin konquerer12:22
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erovanyone have an ATI radeon 9600 or so.. and have the drivers working? gl is slow (software emulation) still.. any pointers or docs?12:29
erovive tried everything the first said.. no luck12:30
erovit's still mesa gl12:30
Adam_eMwhy my grub splashimages looks like they were negatives ? (Reversed colors)12:30
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beaviserov: fglrx12:38
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beaviserov: install fglrx driver12:41
erovi called myself doing this12:41
erovlet me go and verify it's physically there so i'm not crazy12:41
JohnFluxerov: we won't let you go!  you're dangerous!12:42
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cjbottaroCan someone help me installing Kubuntu 6.06 as per the fakeRAID instructions?12:45
beavisi can help you setup software raid12:45
beavisbut not the fake raid , you need ta driver for fake raid12:46
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cjbottarobeavis, I know...there is a wiki page about the fakeRAID install...I'm just running into a problem with dpkg12:46
beavisi disabled my fake raid and used software raid instead12:46
cjbottaroYeah, I kinda wanna to try to get the fakeraid working though.  good learning experience for me.12:47
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beaviscjbottaro: where r u stuck?12:47
mindspitis ISPconfig a good package to install ? is there a better one ?12:48
beavismandriva 2006 has fake raid drivers and it detects it and sets it up , nice,12:48
cjbottaroOk, this section titled "Installing the Base System", see the "**Temporary Note" at the end of the section.12:48
beavisubuntu should do this too12:48
cjbottaroHere is the link: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FakeRaidHowto?highlight=%28raid%29#head-b3ee9096ee8ca7f93e5fe6f2da2cc80cbf079eeb12:48
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cjbottaroThe **Temporary Note says that the fix is to run "dpkg-reconfigure dmraid", but I tried that and it errors and says:  "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: dmraid is broken or not fully installed"12:49
beavisdo sudo apt-get install -f12:51
cjbottarobeavis: Yes, the LiveCD's installer does recognize fakeraid sets (after installing dmraid), but the problem is that it won't let you edit the partition table yourself.12:51
cjbottarobeavis: I just did "sudo apt-get install -f" and it bombs...12:52
cjbottaro* Setting up DMRAID devices...                                                                  invoke-rc.d: initscript dmraid, action "start" failed.12:52
cjbottarodpkg: error processing dmraid (--configure):12:52
cjbottaro subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 112:52
beavistry to uninstall it , then reinstall , then reconfigure12:53
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beaviscjbottaro: apt-get remove dmraid12:53
beaviscjbottaro: apt-get install dmraid12:53
beaviscjbottaro: then sudo  dpkg-reconfigure dmraid12:54
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cjbottarobeavis: it bombed when trying to do the remove, here is the error:  http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=707812:56
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beaviscjbottaro:sis did you do "sudo apt-get remove dmraid"?12:58
cjbottarobeavis: yes, did you look at that pastebin link?  That is the output I got from it.12:59
beaviscjbottaro: yeah im looking at it12:59
beaviscjbottaro: it looks like its running a raid and wont stop so u cant remove it01:00
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cjbottarohrm...that makes a sense...01:01
cjbottarocuz you have to install dmraid in order to mount your partition that you're going to install to01:01
cjbottarobut then you chroot to that mount and the instructions say to apt-get install ubuntu-base linux-k7 ubuntu-desktop dmraid grub01:02
beavishmm , maybe somone else will jump in , i cant think of anything you can do01:03
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cjbottaronod, thanks for your help.  I made a login for the wiki, maybe I can contact the author.01:04
beavisdid you use dpkg-reconfigure dmraid cammand?01:04
cjbottarono01:04
beavisor other command?01:04
cjbottaroi typed "dpkg-reconfigure dmraid" that's it01:04
beavisok , try restart and start over01:05
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beavismaybe youll be able to update dmraid before you actually run it and cfg it01:06
cjbottaroI'm sorry, I'm not understanding you.01:06
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beaviscjbottaro: in the command prompt01:07
beavisif you have a chance , apt-get remove and install before you run it01:08
beavisand configure it01:08
cjbottaroahh, ok01:08
beavisbut if it starts right away then i guess you cant do that01:08
mindspitwhat is the code name of the new 3d desktop ??01:08
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beavisxgl?01:09
mindspityea xgl ? can i install it some how ?01:09
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h3sp4wninstall it from svn its alpha software so you should use the latest version and report bugs01:10
mindspitok01:10
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h3sp4wnhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13165901:12
h3sp4wn(ignore the amd 64 related parts)01:12
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beavisare there any better cd rippers then kaudiocreator?01:14
Hawkwindgrip ?01:14
raphink-sleepkonqueror01:14
raphink-sleep:)01:14
raphink-sleepbeavis: put your audiocd in, then open konqueror and type audiocd:/01:15
raphink-sleepyou'll be given a list of virtual files and folders01:15
raphink-sleepcopying them to any place will encode them :)01:15
raphink-sleepthe easiest way to encode music ever :)01:15
beavisi mean , its ok but i changed the ogg bit rate to q6 but it still encodes in 112kbps01:15
raphink-sleeps/encode/rip and encode/01:16
raphink-sleepah01:16
raphink-sleep:s01:16
raphink-sleepI don't know about kaudiocreator in particular01:17
raphink-sleepand I'm going to bed right now ;)01:17
raphink-sleepgood luck :)01:17
beavisk ty01:17
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sukhanyone know what irc channel is for xfce4 ?01:21
MrObviousraphink-sleep: grip works great01:25
MrObvioussukh: #xfce?01:25
sukhstupid me01:26
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zzphello01:45
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beavishelo01:45
carloshello, any spanish here?????01:46
admiral_proFTWcarlos, no01:46
Kyral!es01:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:46
admiral_proFTWthis is America01:46
Kyral...actually its Cyberspace01:46
zzpI'm having a small problem with dapper drake regarding tty01:46
carlosok ok01:46
admiral_proFTWubotu, your spanish is aweful01:46
ubotuadmiral_proFTW: okay01:46
Kyraland I will hurt you if you make some kinda America-centric comment again01:47
admiral_proFTWKyral, i know, i'm joking01:47
Kyraland I have the right! I am an American! So I can smack my own people!01:47
zzppressing ctr+alt+F? does not got to any comman line prompt01:47
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: hey -- you accidentally referenced a factoid01:47
SeanTater!your spanish01:47
ubotu[your spanish]  aweful01:47
Kyrallol01:47
admiral_proFTWSeanTater, what?01:47
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admiral_proFTWman eveyone lay off me, I have the mumps :P01:48
Kyralubotu forget your spanish01:48
ubotui forgot your spanish, Kyral01:48
Kyralthat should do it01:48
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: you put the keyword "is" in your line01:48
admiral_proFTWSeanTater, umm, still not sure what you mean01:49
admiral_proFTWwhats a "factoid"01:49
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Kyralits the ! commands for ubotu01:49
Kyrallike01:49
Kyral!bot01:49
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.01:49
admiral_proFTWnvm01:49
zodo_Hey folks.  I'm on a text mode server right now, and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the module name for a 3Com 3cCFE575BT Megahertz 10/100 LAN Cardbus [Cyclone]  is?01:49
zzppressing ctrl+alt+F? makes my monitor crazy instead of giving a command line prompt. Anyone experienced the same problem?01:49
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Kyralzzp: only thing I can think of is a problem with the framebuffer01:50
Kyralzzp: can you get back to X with CTRL+ALT+F7?01:50
zzpKyral: yes I can01:50
Kyralnevermind then01:50
zodo_The card gets detected during the ubuntu server install process, but it doesn't show up know that everything is installed.01:50
Kyralzodo_: sorry i don't01:50
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SeanTaterubotu forget your spanish01:51
ubotuSeanTater: i didn't have anything called 'your spanish'01:51
KyralSeanTater: I did that already01:51
SeanTaterKyral: oops -- ok01:51
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SeanTaterKyral: Interesting idea: is it possible to start a program (like a game) on CTRL-ALT-F5, and still get back to x on F7?01:52
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admiral_proFTWSeanTater, I think so01:53
zodo_Alright then, here's an alternate question.  What packages should I grab to get a very minimal, but functional xorg install going on ubuntu-server, so that I can get online and research this for myself?  The ubuntu-desktop package is too heavyweight.01:53
KyralSeanTater: yah01:53
Kyral!fluxbox01:53
ubotufluxbox is probably a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net01:53
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SeanTateradmiral_proFTW and Kyral: then is it possible to quickily switch between the game and x whilst keeping both on?01:54
Kyraland I know the info on that Wikipage is good because I wrote most of it :D01:54
zzpKyral:  Where can I see about the framebuffer? lilo.conf, xorg.conf ... where?01:54
KyralSeanTater: yah01:54
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zodo_Those weblinks for fluxbox would be great if I could get online in textmode.01:54
SeanTaterKyral: neat -- I'll have to try that!01:54
Kyralzodo_: lynx is your FRIEND :D01:54
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kazukiHow can i make sure that arts id def not running01:54
zodo_Hah, I knew there was a text mode webbrowser, but I'd forgetten it's name.01:55
admiral_proFTWSeanTater, my friend does that all the time01:55
Kyralkazuki: go to the Control Center, Sound and Multimedia, and disable the sound system01:55
kazukii did that01:55
apokryphoskazuki: ps ax|grep arts01:55
kazukibut winecfg still crashes when i click the audio tab01:56
Kyralthen ask it to use ALSA01:56
KyralI don01:56
Kyraldamn RETURN key01:56
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: It says "no I/O port permisssions" when I try to start bzflag on tty501:56
kazukiKyral: how do i change it if i cant get to the audio tab01:56
KyralI was GONNA say01:56
KyralI don't use WINE :P01:56
kazukilol01:56
admiral_proFTWSeanTater, no idea, i don't use it like that myself01:57
admiral_proFTWsorry01:57
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: would setting DISPLAY hurt?01:57
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: like, maybe ":1"?01:57
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: since ":0" is x (or can they be the same -- new to this idea)01:58
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admiral_proFTWi have no clue...01:58
SeanTateradmiral_proFTW: okay -- thanks anyway -- :D01:58
ErtainHello everyone.  I'm trying to use Adept without having to type in my password all the time.  How might I go about doing this?  Btw, I'm using KDE.01:59
KyralErtain: thats kinda obvious given the channel you are in02:00
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zodo_Hmm...I just installed the fluxbox package and all of it's dependencies, which included Xorg.  The startx command doesn't work, nor 'fluxbox'.  Forgive my newbness, but what do I do to get it running?02:01
Kyralzodo_: open ~/.xinitrc in a text editor and put (I THINK) startfluxbox02:02
KyralI mean does the fluxbox command exist?02:02
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zodo_Kyral: Yes, however it gives me something about not finding a running xserver.02:02
Kyralzodo_: yah02:03
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Kyralzodo_: okay like I said open ~/.xinitrc in an editor and put "fluxbox" in it02:03
Kyralthen save and try either startx or xinit02:03
zodo_Thanks.02:03
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zodo_Kyral:  There wasn't an xinitrc to begin with...had to create one.  However startx and xinit do nothing.02:07
Kyralhmm02:07
Kyralwhats the output from startx?02:07
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zodo_Nothing.  Command doesn't exist.02:07
zodo_Perhaps it never properly installed x02:07
Kyralxinit?02:07
zodo_command not found.02:08
Kyralwtf02:08
zodo_I'll try apt-get install xorg02:08
Kyralyah...02:08
MrObviouszodo_: echo $PATH02:08
Kyralor xserver-xorg02:08
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zodo_echo $PATH includes /usr/bin/x1102:09
_paulhey02:09
_pauli just installed02:09
_paulbit tornado02:09
_pauland paused the download02:09
_pauland when i02:10
martlol02:10
KyralDON"T DO THAT!02:10
_paulresumed it started from scrap02:10
_paul:(((02:10
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_paul?02:10
mart_paul: type a full line.02:10
KyralDon't use RETURN as punctuation!02:10
h3sp4wnKyral: Does arch have x org 7.1 now ? (I have got direct rendering working with my 9800pro with the opensource drivers and I think there has been updates - just crashes sometimes)02:10
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Kyralhmm02:10
Kyrallemme check02:10
KyralNope, my X dump shows 7.002:11
Kyraldoes ANY distro have 7.1?02:11
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_paulcould u please tell me how 2 use the tornado client so it will just resume downloading after i log off and that log back on?02:11
MrObviousKyral: Don't have a hernia :p02:11
h3sp4wnKyral: Gentoo maybe but I can't be bothered just for that - xbase-clients is 7.1 in sid02:12
_paul could u please tell me how 2 use the tornado client so it will just resume downloading after i log off and that log back on?02:12
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zodo_Well, I'm confused.  I just installed xserver-xorg, and I still have no startx or xinit.02:13
MrObviousYou might need more packages02:13
zodo_It prompted me to choose my screen resolutions, which I did.02:13
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martzodo_: try installing xinit?02:13
h3sp4wnThose are in xbase-clients02:13
_paul could u please tell me how 2 use the tornado client so it will just resume downloading after i log off and that log back on?02:13
zodo_I'll give it a go.02:13
e-ubuntuhelle everyone02:13
e-ubuntuhello02:14
apokryphoshi02:14
marth3sp4wn: er, startx and initx are in xinit on  a new dapper install.02:14
Kyral...that02:14
Kyralis02:14
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Could I ask you some k3b doubts?02:15
KyralRETARDED02:15
zodo_Well, I installed xinit, but now starting x, it barfs for not being able to find the font 'fixed'02:15
_paul could u please tell me how 2 use the tornado client so it will just resume downloading after i log off and that log back on?02:15
zodo_I guess there must be some font packages I need, now.02:15
apokryphose-ubuntu: ask away02:15
apokryphose-ubuntu: we're here to help :)02:15
zodo_You'd think that would be listed in the dependencies.02:15
Kyral_paul: enable it in the config :P02:15
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Ok, thank you.02:15
martzodo_: you did install xserver-xorg?02:15
zodo_mart: Yes.02:16
martfruity.02:16
zodo_I've installed fluxbox, xserver-xorg, and xinit.02:16
zodo_As well as everything they ask for dependancy wise.02:16
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Everytime I record a dvd it doesn't record at 8x. Even when I "say" k3b to do that02:16
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apokryphose-ubuntu: it has the option to record at 8x?02:16
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Yeah, and it is activated02:17
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martzodo_: try x-window-system-core02:17
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h3sp4wnmart: There should be a metapackage with all that stuff in (just installing xinit you would still want the other bits) xbase-clients was the old one02:17
apokryphose-ubuntu: it's not so unlikely that it won't... it depends on how much RAM is available, speed of the discs, possibly CPU power, etc02:17
MrObviousI had that problem with a CD burner. I'm not sure what I did.02:17
apokryphose-ubuntu: what speed does it write at?02:17
marth3sp4wn: I think x-window-system-core is it02:17
martDepends: xserver-xorg, libgl1-mesa, libgl1-mesa-dri, libglu1-mesa, xfonts-base, xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable, xbase-clients, xutils, xkeyboard-config02:17
apokryphose-ubuntu: it's also unlikely that it'll get on exactly at 8x, if that's its capability, it'll always go lower than that (like your broadband/modem).02:17
e-ubuntuapokryphos: 3.90 3.89 3.9802:17
zodo_Holy crap, x-window-system-core include a lot of stuff.02:18
zodo_I'm thinking that's the one.02:18
martwell, it pulls in the fonts you need.02:18
apokryphose-ubuntu: hm, it should ideally go a bit faster than that. Do you have other processes running; what type of PC?02:18
apokryphose-ubuntu: burning is an intensive operation02:18
h3sp4wnmart: So xbase-clients is still used02:18
e-ubuntuapokryphos: My P.C is an Pentium 3 933 Mhz and 768 Mem02:19
marth3sp4wn: I don't know.02:19
e-ubuntuapokryphos: The problem is that at Debian I used to record at 8x,02:19
apokryphose-ubuntu: I'd say that is likely the cause, unfortunately.02:19
apokryphose-ubuntu: k3b, too?02:19
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h3sp4wnmart: Do you know how to use dpkg-cross ?02:19
e-ubuntuapokryphos: yes k3b02:19
marth3sp4wn: I read the docs, never actually tried it.02:19
marth3sp4wn: but that was ages ago.02:20
apokryphose-ubuntu: you're sure that no other large processes are running?02:20
h3sp4wnmart: It is complicated02:20
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marth3sp4wn: I guess you need to start by installing toolchain-source, and building the cross compiler you need first...02:20
e-ubuntuapokryphos: I'm Sure, the same process that used to be running at Debian Sarge02:20
zodo_Ladies and gentlemen, I have X!  Thank you all.02:20
h3sp4wnmart: I have a working cross compiler02:20
sukhu used to use ubuntu02:21
h3sp4wnmart: I just want to rebuild ubuntu for mipsel (just to see if I can)02:21
apokryphose-ubuntu: could you check 'top' on command line to check that nothing's running away?02:21
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beavisso whats a good bittorrent app to use on linux?02:21
sukhnow i use kubuntu02:21
h3sp4wnmart: (Appears I can't at the moment)02:21
sukhbeavis: azureus02:21
zodo_I may be back later, but for now, I'm set.  Bye all.02:21
marth3sp4wn: I wouldn't bother if it's on a 'just because I can' whim. :)02:21
apokryphosbeavis: ktorrent02:21
e-ubuntuapokryphos: nothing seems to be over02:22
apokryphose-ubuntu: curious :/02:22
beavisapokryphos: ktorrent is good , but i cant use it with my music tracker02:22
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Very curious I should say, The processor is been usued at 8.6 to 15%02:23
h3sp4wnmart: I would prefer to use it (Currently using mipsel sid and its really unstable)02:23
apokryphosbeavis: latest ktorrent? (not one in repositories)02:23
marth3sp4wn: then try mipsel testing?02:23
beavisapokryphos: where can i get it ?02:23
apokryphose-ubuntu: it's either a problem with the current packaged k3b, or with the kernel.02:23
apokryphos!ktorrent02:23
ubotuI heard ktorrent is a KDE bittorrent client. It is available in breezy/universe, while the latest version is available in breezy-backports/universe.02:23
apokryphosone sec02:23
h3sp4wnmart: They both as broke as each other at the moment (the problems mostly exist in both)02:24
e-ubuntuapokryphos: I've checked the DMA at the drive, and it's activated.02:24
apokryphosbeavis: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/02:24
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e-ubuntuapokryphos: So you think I should install the same k3b version I used in Debian?02:24
apokryphose-ubuntu: hm, actually some drives have buggy DMA support, so might not always be good to enable it02:24
beavisapokryphos: mk , ty ,02:24
marth3sp4wn: then stable? :)02:24
apokryphose-ubuntu: not necessarily. What version do you have there?02:24
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apokryphose-ubuntu: also, in general debian packages shouldn't be installed on Ubuntu, they're not compatible.02:25
h3sp4wnmart: Stable doesn't support mine or I would02:25
marth3sp4wn: remember ubuntu releases with fewer architectures than debian exactly so it doesn't have to fix these problems :)02:25
e-ubuntuapokryphos: how can I get the k3b version? Just looking the package I've installed, at /var/apt/cache ?02:25
zzpCan't get my tty consoles to work when I make ctrl+alt+F?. The monitor gest crazy. Any hints?02:25
h3sp4wnmart: It still doesn't even fix all the critical ones in debian before release02:26
beavisapokryphos: so how do i install it , apt-get install package name?02:26
zzpI'm able to get back to X though pressing alt+F702:26
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apokryphose-ubuntu: dpkg -l|grep k3b02:26
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marth3sp4wn: no, alas we can only dream of a perfect distro...02:26
KyralWrong02:27
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e-ubuntuapokryphos:  0.12.1402:27
KyralThe Perfect Distro exists02:27
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Kyralits just different for everyone :P02:27
apokryphosbeavis: wget http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/downloads/2.0beta1/ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i ktorrent*.deb02:27
zzpctrl+alt+F?. Gives me no comand prompt. Monitor gets crazy. Any hints?02:27
apokryphosKyral: LFS? ;-)02:28
MrObviouszzp: Refresh rate? :|02:28
MrObviousOnly thing I can think of.02:28
geneo93f102:28
beavisapokryphos: kk , i think i get it02:28
martnah, perfect distro for me means all the latest software running without bugs on every arch I want to run it on.02:28
e-ubuntuapokryphos: so. have you heard if there is any problem with version 0.12.14 ?02:28
apokryphosbeavis: ...in a terminal, that is.02:29
zzpMrObvious: checking... thank you02:29
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martand right now, I'm having bother getting spell checking not to cause kate to hang :(02:29
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LiteHeddedhow do I shut down kde?02:30
apokryphose-ubuntu: sorry, missed your earlier message :)02:30
LiteHeddedi turned my kubuntu machine into a file server and don't really need it anymore02:30
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apokryphose-ubuntu: hm, no, it should be fine02:30
e-ubuntuapokryphos: no problem.02:30
apokryphose-ubuntu: the only thing I can really recommend you doing is removing your config files and restarting k3b02:30
apokryphosit's a shot in the dark, but who knows02:30
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e-ubuntuapokryphos: Ok, think I'll try to install the Debian Version then.02:31
beavisapokryphos: damn it , i got a broken pipe error02:31
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martLiteHedded: from a console, you can do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop02:31
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h3sp4wnmart: Debian usually is pretty close to perfect (when its just been released ......)02:32
martLiteHedded: to prevent it starting again on reboot, either mess with the symlinks in /etc/rc?.d, or read the manual page for update-rc.d02:32
apokryphose-ubuntu: not removing your configs ? :P02:32
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marth3sp4wn: yeah, I'm often tempted to go back.02:32
apokryphose-ubuntu: debian package most likely will cause problems, as I said.02:32
apokryphosbeavis: pastebin the error?02:32
LiteHeddedmart: what about all these running processes that start with 'k'02:32
e-ubuntuapokryphos: No. I'll remove config files also.02:32
martLiteHedded: aren't they killed when you run invoke-rc.d?02:32
apokryphose-ubuntu: try first removing the config files and burning, then if you have to use debian packs02:33
apokryphosagain, I don't recommend it, but hey =)02:33
LiteHeddedmart: seem to still be running02:33
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martLiteHedded: process names?02:33
LiteHeddedkthread, khelper etc.02:33
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Sorry I don't remeber you said that deb packages could cause problems.02:33
h3sp4wnmart: I think ubuntu should just work on increasing the frequency of debian releases and provide debian support02:33
apokryphose-ubuntu: to replace your configs: mv ~/.kde/share/config/k3brc{,old} && mv ~/.kde/share/apps/k3b{,old}02:33
LiteHeddedkjournald02:33
apokryphos...and then restart k3b02:33
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apokryphose-ubuntu: debian packages, yes. I said it several times :)(02:34
e-ubuntuapokryphos: But ok, I'll try to remove the config only02:34
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beavisapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1595802:34
martLiteHedded: you can ignore kjournald, I think that's a kernel or system process.02:34
LiteHeddedk02:34
martLiteHedded: and khelper and kthread in fact.02:34
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h3sp4wnapokryphos: I have had few problems using sid source packages on dapper02:35
tulgamy eclipse too slow. my pc is 1GB RAM, 2.4GhZ CPU. howto fix?02:35
apokryphosh3sp4wn: I'm not in the least surprised :P02:35
_paulhey, i have a green light on bit tornado but i have a crappy down speed, like 1 kb/s, why is that?02:35
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beavisktorrent is pretty fast02:35
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Ok. I'll try to record a dvd Later, cause I've recorded the last I had.02:35
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apokryphosbeavis: hm, bad packaging :/02:35
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apokryphosk02:36
beavisbut my fav tracker wont let me use it02:36
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_paulhey, i have a green light on bit tornado but i have a crappy down speed, like 1 kb/s, why is that?02:36
beavisapokryphos: redownload?02:36
e-ubuntuapokryphos: Thank you, again02:36
Kyral_paul: not enough seeders02:36
apokryphosbeavis: nah, the packager didn't do it great. Perhaps they made it for breezy, even.02:36
Kyral_paul: BitTorrent is dependant on others. And no, you cannot do anything about it02:36
apokryphosbeavis: if you like, you could compile it. It's not easy, but I could walk you through it02:36
_paul:))02:36
e-ubuntuapokryphos: See ya02:37
_paulcome on.....02:37
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KyralSeriously02:37
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beavisapokryphos: im gonna compile , ill do it , if i cant do something ill ask u , k?02:37
_pauli know how torrents work, i just started usin linux recently and i;m a bit confused cause it's not quite like win02:37
_paul:P02:37
apokryphosbeavis: sure, or I can walk you through now :)02:38
KyralNO SHIT02:38
apokryphosbeavis: you'll want to download the "source" package, to compile from source.02:38
KyralWindows isn't like Linux, whoa!! ;P02:38
apokryphosKyral: easy cowboy :P02:38
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beavisapokryphos: i got it , they have instructions on the website , ill just try to use that02:38
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RawSewagetry KTorrent02:39
apokryphosbeavis: ok, two notes: before you do anything, execute: sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent02:39
apokryphosbeavis: this is a very handy apt tool that will automatically resolve compile dependencies for you02:39
apokryphosbeavis: also, when you ./configure, type: ./configure --prefix=/usr instead02:39
_paulKTorrent?02:39
RawSewagewhy are you building KTorrent02:39
RawSewageit's in the repos02:40
neoncodeHow do I extract .rar files. I have installed unrar-free02:40
RawSewageget nonfree02:40
gelexmay pinoy ba ditong user ng kubuntu?02:40
RawSewage!rar02:40
martguess the language?02:40
ubotu[rar]  a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression02:40
DrBairI just wish Ubuntu had the new 7zip utility for *nix02:41
RawSewageIt has 7zip02:41
sukhit does02:41
RawSewageyes02:41
beavisapokryphos: ./configure --prefix=/usr,    what do i need to replace in this command?02:42
RawSewageI think ARk02:42
DrBairi need to find the name of it... but theres a version of it that behaves like gzip and bzip202:42
DrBaireven a patch for tar so it can use it too02:42
apokryphosbeavis: that's fine, just that command02:42
RawSewageArk02:42
beavisapokryphos: ok , ty02:42
apokryphosbeavis: make sure you never go to the next step if a command ends in "error"02:42
RawSewageI didnt need a patch02:43
RawSewageI compress to tar.gz all the time02:43
DrBairlzma utils is the package I was thinking of http://tukaani.org/lzma/02:43
RawSewageARK02:44
RawSewageseems like youre all making things confusing than they are02:44
RawSewagemore confusing02:45
DrBaircan't use ark in a shell script very well though02:45
RawSewageoh02:45
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bernier!nvidia02:45
ubotuI heard nvidia is a graphics card manufacturer. For help about installing the Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, you can visit the Ubuntu WIki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:45
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DrBairlzma utils could let lzma (7zip) replace gzip and bzip202:46
RawSewageI dont know anything about shell scriping02:46
KyralDrBair: you will never replace gzip and bzip202:46
Kyralthey are too ingrained into the mythos now02:46
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DrBairKyral: bandwidth isn't cheap... if its almost as fast as gzip and offers better compression than bzip2 on max, it will replace it02:47
KyralDrBair: yah but everything USES them right now02:47
Kyralit would take a LONG time02:48
Kyraland isn't 7zip a propreitary format?02:48
RawSewagedo you use it for game roms02:48
RawSewageWhat does Propietary mean in the Add/Remove programs02:49
KyralMeans its not Free02:49
RawSewageoh02:49
KyralI mean Free as in Freedom02:49
Kyralnot Free as in Beer02:49
RawSewagenot free how02:49
DrBairKyral: lzma is the algorithm which is LGPL02:49
Kyralhmm LGPL good02:49
RawSewagewhy does it let me install propietary programs and use them for free02:49
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KyralThere is a difference02:50
Kyralsomething can be Free as in beer02:50
RawSewagenot free for commercial use?02:50
Kyralbut not Free as in Freedom02:50
Kyralgimme a second...02:50
RawSewageoh, open02:50
RawSewagenot open source02:50
DrBairie. no source code02:50
RawSewageok02:50
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DrBairor restrictions on modification or redistribution02:50
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Kyralhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html02:50
h3sp4wnOr it can free as in trully free (bsd licence)02:50
beavisapokryphos: i got an error at the end that sais , ktorrent requires gmb (www......) but then it sais  GOOD your con. finished , start make now02:51
KyralConversly, there is nothing stopping something that is Free as in Freedom from NOT being Free as in Beer02:51
DrBairlike Minix... you can get it free and see the source but you can't modify and redistribute (I believe)02:51
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KyralFree Software, Free Society02:52
RawSewage= programmers living on the streets02:53
crimsunthat's not necessarily true02:53
DrBairits all about the support contracts02:53
crimsunthere are businesses that pay their employees to write free software02:53
DrBairlike IBM02:54
crimsunIBM, Red Hat, Novell, MySQL, HP, Canonical to name just a few02:54
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Search4LanceramaroK is giving me "Error, no engine loaded, cannot start playback"02:56
Search4Lancerany ideas?02:57
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Search4Lancernevermind, got it :-P02:57
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root_Well, I'm back. Fluxbox works, firefox loads, etc...but half the programs I try never open a window.  No bash shell, no synaptic...02:58
root_And there's no console output from x, that I can tell.02:58
RawSewageI need a money-making project to work on02:59
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zodoCrap, didn't notice the nickname, sorry.02:59
martzodo: running irc as root? tut tut!03:00
zodoHah, forgot to back out of su before launching bitchx.03:00
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zodoI knew someone would say something, soon as I noticed.03:00
martwell, if you hadn't mentioned it ... ;)03:01
beavisthere is no md5 command in 64bit kubuntu?03:01
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martbeavis:  md5sum is there03:02
zodoAnyhow, any insight as to why programs in fluxbox would transparently fail, appearently making no effort to open?03:02
zodoOf the ones I've tried, firefox works, bash doesn't, Xbitchx doesn't, synaptic doesn't.03:02
zodoProlly a toolkit thing, eh?03:03
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martbash has a toolkit? ;)03:03
RawSewagetj9991, do you have any more questions03:03
zodoBut those apps should've grabbed GTK or whatever they need as dependancies.03:03
tj9991no03:03
beavismart: k,03:03
zodoWell, not bash itself, but the window toolbars n' stuff.03:04
h3sp4wnYou can write websites using haserl if you want to do the scripts in shell03:04
beavismart: ty , i used just md5 in the 32bit03:04
martzodo: if you can get a command line, that might be the best way to debug.03:04
martbeavis: never seen that before.03:04
zodoFluxbox gives me bash, or sh, neither of which work.  *grumble*03:04
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zodoHow do I tell a program from one of the real commandlines to open to a specific xserver?03:05
martit's a pity it's not windows, or you could stick the name of the command interpreter into IE.  that trick's got me around many over-restrictive, but lamely implemented, security policies.03:06
zodoI suppose that I can try running fluxbox as the root user...maybe it's a rights issue.03:06
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martzodo: you'd need to do "export DISPLAY=..."03:07
mart... where ... is something from `xauth list`, I guess03:07
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_thiagosorry for the stupid question, but is it the rigt channel to solve Breezy problems?03:08
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zodoHmm, well they don't open via root, either.03:08
_thiagoI mean, to get help03:08
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erovkubuntu breezy?03:09
_thiagoyes03:09
mart_thiago: try it.03:09
_thiagook, it's a problem with a winmodem. I think I installed it correctly, but I can't connect for more than 5 seconds03:10
ube_can someone check my website and tell me what content is showing? www.rowelldionicio.com03:11
ube_i'm having issues uploading to the ftp server03:11
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ube_and it looks as if its caching the last update03:11
martugh... I remember having problems like that years ago.  I don't think I remember enough to debug ppp anymore :(03:11
_thiagoI'm starting to hate winmodems...03:12
RawSewagetj9991, are you still trying to decide whether or not to install Kubuntu on the other computer03:12
_thiagothanks, anyway03:12
mart_thiago: for me, it was a proper modem...03:12
tj9991im trying to decide how to fix the storage problem03:12
_thiagomart: ouch03:13
_thiagomart: you mean, a hardmodem?03:13
RawSewageTell me the details, and I'll tell you what to do03:13
zodoWell, this is interesting.03:13
zodoI got the display to export, and now that I do that, the programs load fine.03:14
mart_thiago: yeah, but as I say, it was some time ago.03:14
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zodoThere must be some issue where they don't know what display to go to.03:14
tj9991i need to find a place with unlimited temporary storage03:14
RawSewageWait for GDrive03:14
_thiagomart: do you have any idea of where can I found some help? I already tried both Ubuntu and Kubuntu forums without success03:15
marter, just email everything to yourself :)03:15
tj9991meh03:15
tj9991gmail gives me 2.5 gigs of space03:15
tj9991i could creat 150 gmail accounts03:15
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beavisapokryphos: u there?03:17
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Darkseedhello all03:17
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mart_thiago: sorry, can't think of much, the kppp developers might know how to debug it?03:19
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_thiagomart: here's another problem, already tried kpp, wvdial and pppon/pppoff. Neither of them worked03:20
apokryphosbeavis: back03:20
mart_thiago: well, you'd think there must be someone who develops one of those who might know what's wrong.03:21
tj9991how much storage does google pages give you?03:23
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HawkwindGo look on google and see03:23
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tj9991thats a nice responce03:23
tj9991response03:23
HawkwindIt's a good response when noone knows the answer and it tells you on their site03:24
lime4x4has anyone been able to get xgl running with a ati card?03:24
beavisapokryphos: im getting there , i hit a few bumps , put im on my way again almost done , i hope03:24
sokubanFor some reason I can't find my printer drivers. When I use the printer wizard, it says that they can't connect or something and to try another one of the suggested ones. But all of them are like that. Anyone know what my problem is? (BTW my printer is an HP LaserJet 4P03:24
_thiagomart: I think I will try it. Do you know how to contact them?03:25
_thiagomart: (sorry for the stupid questions, i'm kinda new in this linux stuff)03:26
_thiagomart: I mean, kppp developers03:27
mart_thiago: check the help about box?03:27
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martsokuban: how are the printers connected? usb? ethernet? ...?03:29
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sokubanThe long port I think its called lttp1 or something03:29
_thiagomart: actually, i'm using it right now, so i can't do it (the troublesome modem is in another computer, 40 km away from here :) )03:30
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beavisapokryphos: i got it installed, i had to download and install gmp thing , that took me a while , thanks for the help ,03:34
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beavisapokryphos: this onedoesnt work with that tracker either though , i think they only have few clients allowed03:35
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ICXCNINAI'm trying to use the Live Kubuntu CD (the Dapper Drake). How do I boot from CD using BIOS? Do i move CD ROM up? Or what? I know it sounds like a stupid question, but I'm new to Linux.03:44
sokubanCD should be at the top, if you have a bootable CD in the tray you should boot from it, unless something wierd happened03:45
ICXCNINAOk.03:45
ICXCNINAHmm. Didn't do it that time.03:46
_thiagomart: I think I found a e-mail. Thanks!03:46
ICXCNINAShould I enable CD Rom?03:47
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ICXCNINAWell something's wrong with the disc I burned I guess.03:49
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ICXCNINAThe CD won't read and _ just keeps blinking then it goes to Windows.03:55
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xwolf-!pdf03:58
uboturumour has it, pdf is Pretty Dumb Format, or the Portable Document Format created by Adobe to replace PS for use with Acrobat or viewable with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source) or gv/gnome-gv. use ps.gz instead!03:58
ICXCNINAMaybe it was the burning program I used.03:59
ICXCNINAI guess I'll have to wait for someone to send me the cd04:00
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Armagguedeshello04:01
Armagguedeshow do i update a font?04:01
Armagguedes(ttf-dejavu just got updated to v2.7, dappers default is 2.5)04:02
mcrandelloI would just replace the file for something like that04:03
mcrandelloand then update the package when it comes out04:03
MindlessXDhas anyone been able the build the KDE help search index?  i always get a "htdig failed" error04:03
martArmagguedes: use the font installer in System Settings?04:03
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Official_Chello?04:06
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Official_Cis everyone not talking or does my irc not work?04:06
Official_Ci am using gaim04:07
mcrandelloyes04:07
Armagguedeswe are not talking04:07
Armagguedeswe are all mad04:07
Official_Cthis chatroom is usually more active04:07
mcrandello>:(04:07
Armagguedes@ each other04:07
Official_Cwhy are you mad?04:07
Armagguedesok tks mart04:07
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ICXCNIKAI think it is the cd. Maybe it just didn't burn correctly.04:07
Official_Cthis is so cool, i didnt know i could do this using gaim04:08
Official_Cgaim is so much better than aim04:08
ICXCNIKAI can't even boot Dapper from the CD-ROM04:08
Armagguedesmart ok tks done04:09
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xwolf-what's the best way to copy some files from my linux partition to the windows one?04:10
Armagguedespendrive04:11
Official_Cdo you need to access the files in windows or is it just for temp storage?04:11
mcrandellowin32 partition04:12
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mcrandelloanyone good at troubleshooting irq issues? I have a video driver that likes to crowd out the USB devices04:13
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elknof3hi everybody...   sorry.. what is the command on terminal to erase a file or directory??04:14
mcrandelloelknof3: rm04:14
elknof3thanks04:14
mcrandellorm -rf if you're sure you got the right dir and don't want confirmation04:14
Official_Cmcrandello: you should do a search for IRQ issues regarding your particular driver04:14
Official_Csomeone else has probably had the same problem04:14
xwolf-Official_C i just want to copy some mp3 files i downloaded with linux to the windows partition04:15
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mcrandelloOfficial_C: actually a couple people have, it appears to be toshiba laptops and radeon 200m vidcards04:15
mcrandellohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/4127204:15
Official_Chmm04:15
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Official_Cxwolf: is your windows partition a FAT?04:15
Official_Cor ntfs?04:16
Official_Cim guessing ntfs04:16
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mcrandelloI already updated the firmware on the laptop, using the latest or next to last drivers seems to cause this04:18
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Official_Cman i am so close to reformatting my windows hard drive04:18
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Official_Cmcrandello: hmm, try using somethin earlier04:18
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mcrandelloTo do that I'd need to downgrade to xorg 6.8.something04:18
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Official_Coh...damng04:19
mcrandelloI have a feeling that'll break things in dapper :(04:19
Official_Cyeah, might jack it up a bit, i dunno04:19
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elknof3hi everybody sorry   whats the command to delete a dir??04:22
elknof3including content04:22
chavoelknof3, rm -r04:22
beavis_kaudiocreator does not read ogg encoders bitrate setting and always sets it to 112 kbps , does anyone know how to change that?04:22
elknof3thanks04:22
mcrandellothe -r means "recursive" :)04:22
Official_Cdo any of you help maintain or develop any open source projects?04:23
erik_just wanna say thanx for kubuntu, after performing a few of the tweaks that I've found on wiki and forum it is a VERY nice little OS. Thanx! (will donate a few euros now)04:23
beavis_yeah , kubuntu rocks04:23
Official_Canyone a programmer?04:23
beavis_linux just needs better apps04:24
Official_Cok, anyone do scripting??04:24
martOfficial_C: yes, some of us are FOSS devs.04:25
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Official_Cmart, what do you develop04:25
marter, nothing in the default kubuntu install :)04:25
Official_Cwell, i mean anything04:26
marter, where's this going..?04:26
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xwolf-Official_C it is ntfs :>04:27
xwolf-sorry for the delay, i'm reading some stuff here and you didn't say my nick so it didnt blink04:27
martbeavis_: you can configure the kaudiocreator to use a difference encoding.04:27
martdifference->different.04:28
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Official_Cmart: nowhere dangerous04:28
martok, koffice and easypmp.04:29
Official_Cxwolf: what is it that you wanted to do again?04:29
beavis_mart: i dont see any configs for thar04:29
beavis_that04:29
Official_Coh, ok, what kinds of things do you do04:29
martbeavis_: under "Encoder"04:29
martthen "Configure..." the codec you want.04:29
xwolf-Official_C copy files from ext3 partition to windows (ntfs) partition04:30
beavis_mart: there are no options for bitrate there04:30
martbeavis_: just add the bitrate to the command line option04:30
beavis_mart: ok , lets say i want q6 oggs , what would i add to command?04:31
Official_Cxwolf: i think you need a program for that...it is very dangerous to try to write to an ntfs filesystem from linux04:31
martbeavis_: -q6, I believe04:31
xwolf-Official_C i have been warned of writing to ntfs, so didnt even try.04:31
beavis_mart: ill try , thanks04:31
Official_Ci configured my fstab file so that my windows partition is mounted under /media in linux when i boot up....but it is mounted as READ ONLY04:32
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xwolf-Official_C i thought of using qemu or something like that to boot my hd and choose windows in grub's menu...04:32
mcrandellothere's an ext2/3 fs driver for windows...04:32
mcrandelloof course it's almost as risky as writing to ntfs from linux if not more04:33
Official_Cxwolf: choosing windows in grub will just boot you into windows though04:33
mcrandellothe last time I tried it with an ext3 partition I wound up with an ext2 one04:33
xwolf-Official_C exactly, and if i am running qemu under linux, i'll be able to use samba04:33
Official_Cxwolf: what i recommend is trying to create a FAT partition on the hard drive containing windows. then copy your linux files to the FAT partition04:34
xwolf-hm04:34
Official_Cxwolf: then if necessary, copy the files from the FAT partition to the NTFS partition since they are compatible04:34
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Official_Cxwolf: maybe not the easiest way but definitely the safest04:35
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beavis_anyone know how i can make linux make my breakfast04:36
mcrandellohttp://www.riverdale.k12.or.us/linux/toaster/04:37
mcrandellomatter of fact yes04:37
ChefWillanyone care to help me figure out whats wrong with my wifi?04:37
martbeavis_: see also http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Coffee.html04:38
mcrandellookay it just happened, teh USB died. anyone know what log would be usefull to look for clues in?04:38
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martmcrandello: run dmesg?04:38
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Armagguedeswhen installing dapper how can i select XFS instead of ext3?04:39
Armagguedesfor /04:39
martArmagguedes: use manual partitioning.04:39
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Armagguedesyes but i dont remember seeing xfs listed there04:39
martit's there :)04:39
Armagguedesoks04:40
beavis_cool04:40
martif you see the "Use as:" label, then edit that.04:40
Armagguedesand what are the advantages of using a newer kernel (dapper has 2.6.15, .17 has just been released)04:40
martArmagguedes: not a great deal if you have no problems with 2.6.15.04:41
Official_Cdo you guys let kubuntu automatically make a swap partition for you or do you manually specify a size?04:41
rovitotvHello, I am new to kubuntu, but I have been using Slackware for several years, can somebody explain the kernel compile process to me?  I have read a few howtos but I am not sure why we have to use the dpkg stuff????04:41
martOfficial_C: to be honest, I have no idea. :)04:41
Official_Cmart: how big is your wap partition04:41
Official_Cswap*04:42
zodoHey folks.  I'm back, with yet another question.  I'm trying to set up a Firestarter NAT/Firewall now (I gave up on shorewall) and I'm having some trouble with the dhcpd.conf that it's generating.  ath0 is my wan connection, and eth0 is my lan.  I only want to serve IP addresses over eth0. However, dhcpd won't start without me making a subnet declaration for ath0.  If I do that, will it start serving IPs over ath0, as well?04:42
mcrandelloI see some atkbd errors from using the Fn key, and some hdc:tray open from where the cat was laying against the side of the laptop :(04:42
martOfficial_C: seems to be 4Gb!04:43
mcrandellonothing about the usb though04:43
Official_Cmart: god dang...how much RAM do you have?04:44
martOfficial_C: oh well, it's a 160G drive, so it's pretty negligable.04:44
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Official_Chey Kyral04:44
martOfficial_C: enough for all my processes without swap.04:44
mcrandelloI'm going to go get dinner, reboot and then try to catch it again, I guess I could keep a console open with tail -f running04:45
Official_Cmart: yeah i only got 512MB but it is enough04:45
james_xxxrovitotv: why are you switching from slackware?04:45
mcrandellolater!04:45
Official_Cmy swap partition is actually only 368MB though04:45
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Official_Cmy partition containing linux is actually only 8GB04:46
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xwolf-!lvm04:50
ubotumethinks lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/04:50
beavis_isnt the kernel just linux? and everything else just addons?04:50
thompaim having a problem, only on notebook, of maybe curser jumping04:50
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xwolf-!vm04:51
ubotuxwolf-: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:51
thompanot sure what it is, but when i type it jumps around so the sentence sometimes is messed up04:51
xwolf-!vmware04:51
ubotuhmm... vmware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare04:51
xwolf-!qemu04:51
ubotufrom memory, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=104:51
rovitotvjames_xxx: just thought I would try something different and Pat has been having a difficult time making timely releases.04:51
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Bennneri finaly got the ati web site drivers installed.. for my X1600 yes!!..  BUT now i can't go into System Settings/Display  it's says "The Module Display could not be loaded" so i can't change my resolution, i think i am in 1280x102404:55
beavis_Bennner: yeah , that happened to me04:55
Bennnerdid u solve it?04:56
beavis_Bennner:dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:56
Bennnerand do i change settings?04:57
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Bennnershould i take fglrx or ati or vesa?04:58
beavis_fglrx04:59
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Bennneri try that and coming back05:01
thompahow can i disable touchpad?\05:01
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Giohmm05:02
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thompamy touchpad is heat sensitive, and screws up my typing real bad05:02
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Bennnerbeavis cool it works05:03
beavis_thompa: put some tape over it ,05:03
beavis_Bennner: good job05:03
Gio.05:03
beavis_Bennner:  use tab to autocomplete nicknames05:04
thompahe05:04
Bennnerbut i have another bug, for example, when i go to display, i click Administrator mode, the windows corner comes red like usual, but no password box appears and stay there05:04
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Hobbseethompa: does ksynaptics let you change it?05:04
HobbseeBennner: run kdesu kcontrol instead05:04
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=== Hobbsee doesnt know why that bug seems to keep randomly appearing
thompaim checking settings first, should be something there05:04
beavis_Bennner: that i dont know , it happened to me when i used 32bit kubuntu , im using 64bit now and so far everything is still working05:06
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thompaksyanptics. no such animal05:06
Professor.05:06
beavis_its called adept05:06
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Hobbseebeavis_: no it isnt, different program05:06
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Hobbsee!info ksynaptics dapper05:07
ubotuksynaptics: (A KDE application to configure Synaptics TouchPad), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.2.4-2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 175 kB, Installed size: 908 kB05:07
beavis_ok ,05:07
thompaok05:07
Hobbseethompa: ^  i think you spelt it wrong05:07
Hobbseebeavis_: you're thinking of kynaptic05:07
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thompaya, but i typed in bash correct05:08
thompai need to install it i guess05:08
Hobbseeyes05:08
beavis_Hobbsee: no , im new , i thought you were talking about something else05:08
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ProfessorHi ICXCNIKA. Do you edito on Wikipedia?05:08
Hobbseebeavis_: :) that's okay, i figured that's what you thought05:08
beavis_Hobbsee: so what is the best webbrowser for linux?05:09
thompai installed ksynaptics, but how to start?05:10
Hobbseebeavis_: firefox.   after that, probably konqueror05:10
Bennnerthanks beavis_ & hobbsee it's now working fine at 1024x768@75hz05:10
Hobbseethompa: alt+f2, ksynaptics?05:10
beavis_Bennner: no problem05:10
thompathat worked, strange in terminal it did not05:10
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Hobbseevery strange05:11
thompai disabled touchpad and appied setting, do i have to re-X?05:11
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ProfessorIcxcnika?05:12
Hobbseethompa: if your touchpad is now disabled, then no, otherwise, yes :P05:12
thompaok05:12
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thompaHobbsee: i restarted X, still touchpad works05:15
Hobbseethompa: darn!05:15
intelikeyapokryphos oh you run this channel too,   sorry i didn't know.05:15
thompaif the touchpad is the problem, it seems curser is jumping when i type,05:15
thompaits cross distro05:15
thompai guess i must edit xorg.conf05:16
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Bennnerwhere can i found instruction to install all the standard codecs (mp3, avi, divx....)05:17
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thompain xorg.conf i have driver "synaptics" , can i just hash mark it?05:17
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Hobbseei've got no idea....05:18
Hobbsee!tell Bennner about codecs05:18
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thompaill try it05:19
james_xxxrovitotv: will there be an upgrade for slackware anytime in the near future?05:19
RadiantFireso I'm trying to set up my keycodes, and trying to do xmodmap -e "keycode 174 = XF86VolumeLower" says bad keysym nane xf86audiolower' in keysym list05:20
rovitotvjames_xxx: I am not sure it has been almost 10 months since the last upgrade.  Pat has added patches and fixes but I feel like maintaining a distro is more than a one person job so I think I am going to switch.  So far I like Kubuntu.05:23
beavis_so i found a cool icon right ?  how do i aasing this one icon to all ...lets say all mp3 files??05:23
beavis_assign05:23
beavis_asign?05:23
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tj9991well that was fun, trying to get steam to work with wine05:24
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beavis_did you get it to work?/05:24
tj9991yep, and its downloading HL and CS from the servers now05:24
tj9991has anyone ever done it before?05:24
tj9991i installed tahoma05:24
beavis_good job05:24
tj9991but the close and minimize buttons on the bars above the windows are boxes05:24
tj9991so i know i have font missing or something else is buggered05:25
RawSewagewhy didnt you use Cedega05:25
tj9991cedega isnt free, is it05:25
tj9991i cant remember05:25
beavis_so i found a cool icon right ?  how do i aasing this one icon to all ...lets say all mp3 files??05:25
thompai thin i need  Option "SHMConfig" in xorg.conf to disable touchpad05:25
RawSewageI think it's freeif you build it05:25
james_xxxrovitotv: kubuntu is very nice, i have it on 2 machines... xubuntu on another, but i am installing slackware on another as we speak05:27
RadiantFireslackware is fun :-)05:28
RadiantFirei got as far as getting xorg running when I didtched it05:28
james_xxxRadiantFire: i still know little about linux, but i had been thinking about giving slackware a try05:28
james_xxxRadiantFire: you never got slackware to work?05:28
RadiantFirejames_xxx: I consider myself to have a fair amount of skills05:29
RadiantFireyet the install was fraught with problems05:29
james_xxxahhh05:29
beavis_no one knows how to assign an icon to a file type???05:29
RadiantFirefirst off lilo failed to install, so I had no way of booting the box at all05:29
james_xxxRadiantFire: well, that means i am probably going to have trouble here in a few minutes05:29
rovitotvI like slackware and since I have been using it for so long I can make it do just about anything I want.  But I think the writing is on the wall and Slackware is dying.05:30
RadiantFirejames_xxx: I also had a usb mouse, and it jitteried like mad05:30
RadiantFirelike it would jerk back and forth across the screen for no reason05:30
james_xxxhmmm05:30
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Frederickfolks how do I create a trash folder on my desktop?05:30
RadiantFirein retrospect I prolly shoulda used the usb->ps2 adapter sitting 5 ft from me05:30
james_xxxmaybe i should stop my install right now lol05:30
rovitotvRadiantFire:  Strange problems, I have never seen a lilo install fail.  Are you using SATA drive?  If so did you boot with the test26.s kernel?05:30
RadiantFireFrederick: you can add a link to url and enter trash:/ as the url05:31
RadiantFirerovitotv: IDE with 2.4 kernel05:31
rovitotvRadiantFire:  IDE drive should work without a problem.05:31
RadiantFirerovitotv: it was wierd05:31
RadiantFirerovitotv: i booted with slackware and wgetted a grub package and installed that instead05:31
james_xxxi am putting slackware on an old P3 machine05:32
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RadiantFirewhen I gave up with slackware I went to gentoo05:32
RadiantFirestayed with gentoo for 1.5 yrs and now I'm here05:32
rovitotvSlackware is good for old machines, no doubt about that!05:32
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FrederickRadiantFire: can I do it for home too?05:33
thompai stll can disable touchpad05:33
RadiantFireRadiantFire: probably05:33
thompastill cant05:33
RadiantFireFrederick: for home you can drag the home folder out of the sidebar of konqueror05:33
tj9991guys, I have a 320 gig hard drive, and its virtually formatted into three partitions all NTFS05:33
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tj9991if I connected it to a linux computer, could i browse it successfully?05:34
seyacatHelp me please. i have AMD 64 with kubuntu, one day eth0 stop to work, it is embbed and i can see it and can configure, but i cant see network computers. ethernet works fine in windoes05:34
james_xxxwell, i am really intrigued with the idea of distros aimed at older machines...... i have xubuntu on an old AMD-K62, and although i think xubuntu is still somewhat in the rough, i like it. tonight i just wanted to try something else out. what other distributions are out there that would be well suited for older hardware?05:34
beavis_thompa: try this http://scottcollins.net/blog/2006/01/disable-touchpad-tap-in-kubuntubreezy.html05:34
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Hobbseeseyacat: pastebin sudo ifup eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0 please05:34
beavis_thompa: or this http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/05:35
seyacatok, ill go to linux and back jeje05:36
thompaok thanks, i just tried adding synclient to xorg, no go05:36
thompabeavis: i did that it dont work, maybe need to re-X again05:37
FrederickIve choosen to be able to see hard disk devices in my desktop but I want it for only 1 partition I dont want to see the partition where ubuntu is it self how do I selve it?05:39
beavis_thompa: maybe this will help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=434679&postcount=805:39
RawSewageIf I have 2 harddrives on my computer... 1 with Linux, and 1 with Windows,  how can I read the Windows drive from the Kubuntu drive?05:39
Frederickany ideas for me?05:40
rovitotvjames_xxx: I have heard good things about arch and damnsmalllinux (DSL)05:41
Hobbsee!tell RawSewage about windowsdrives05:41
RawSewagety05:41
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rovitotvjames_xxx: as RadiantFire had said gentoo is a good one as well.05:43
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RadiantFireyes05:45
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james_xxxrovitotv: ty05:47
james_xxxRadiantFire: is gentoo very newb friendly?05:47
RadiantFirejames_xxx: i'd say "yes if your an experimenally minded noob"05:47
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RadiantFireI was able to cut and paste about 10 pages of commands to run a complete command line install05:47
RadiantFireI didn't have a clue what I was doing until later05:48
RadiantFireand tinkering with gentoo is the reason I have such a firm grasp of the underpinnings of systems05:48
RadiantFireI've been debating installing it on this laptop05:48
thompai managed to disable touchpad tapping, but cant disable touchpad completely. weird05:48
james_xxxcool05:48
thompaalso no bios option05:48
RadiantFirejames_xxx: its also blazing fasat05:49
james_xxxRadiantFire: i may have to give gentoo a try...05:49
RadiantFirejames_xxx: block off a weekend05:49
RadiantFirejames_xxx: it took me about 10 hours to get up to a gui05:49
RadiantFireon a p4 3 ghz05:49
RadiantFireand that gui was x + twm05:49
james_xxxi had never even seen a computer running linux until about 6 weeks ago, so i know nothing05:49
RadiantFirejames_xxx: if your interested and have any questions feel free to e-mail me at zeiglerr@dickinson.edu05:50
RadiantFireI'll do my best to get back to you quick05:50
james_xxxRadiantFire: thanks05:50
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james_xxxRadiantFire: where is dickinson?05:50
ChefWillanyone care to help me troubleshoot whats wrong with my wifi?05:50
james_xxxohio?05:50
RadiantFirePennsylvania05:50
james_xxxo ok05:50
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thompaqsynaptics works, ksynaptis dont05:51
beavis_ChefWill: whats wrong with your wifi?05:51
RadiantFireyeah, gonna pop in gentoo on this lappy tomorrow :-) it will be fun05:51
ChefWilldoesnt work :P05:51
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seyacathi i return05:51
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beavis_ChefWill: well . ,are you familiar with networking?05:51
ChefWilla little bit05:52
ChefWilli use knetworkanager05:52
ChefWillits not showing any networks right now05:52
ChefWillits not een showing a wifi card05:52
seyacatHelp me i have a problem with ethernet, i can see that but i cant see network. Kubuntu amd 6405:53
beavis_ChefWill: maybe its because it doesnt have the right driver for the card05:53
ChefWillit should05:53
ChefWillim using whats it called05:53
seyacatifup say me eth0 is configured05:53
Hobbseeseyacat: and dhclient?05:54
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ChefWillndiswrapper says its working05:54
beavis_goot thing hobb is here , i was getting worried05:54
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beavis_he can help you guys out05:55
seyacatdhclient say DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 ineteval 7....11....1305:55
seyacati have static ips05:55
beavis_isnt local subnet 255.255.255.0?05:56
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beavis_seyacat: are you using router?05:56
beavis_ChefWill:  i dont really know ,05:57
seyacatim using NAT of windoes to route, but i cant see this computer wint ping too05:57
beavis_ChefWill: if it doesnt see your card then the driver  is either not working right or not configured right05:57
seyacatwhen i use ping it say HOST IS UNREACHEBLE05:58
beavis_seyacat: nat of windows?05:58
beavis_seyacat: either firewall on ur pc or the other could be blocking ping requests05:59
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beavis_seyacat: if youre connected to a router , and using static ips make sure your router is setup to use static ips and you specify the default gateway in your lan config06:00
seyacatfirewall is disabled06:00
ChefWillndiswrapper says my card is present yet ifconfig doesnt show it06:01
seyacati dont use router, and i cant see neigbourg computer, but i windows i can06:02
beavis_ChefWill: why are you using ifconfig?  isnt there any gui tool to config wifi?06:02
ChefWillwell i use network manager06:02
ChefWillim just trying to figure out why its not working06:02
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beavis_im new to linux myself , so dont expect much from me , i can only help out with the things ive done myself already06:03
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ChefWillcan you even run ndiswrapper + knetworkmanager?06:12
HobbseeChefWill: yes06:12
ChefWillidk what the problem is06:12
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ChefWillndiswrapper -l says bcmwl5a drier present, hardware present06:13
HobbseeChefWill: want to pastebin ifconfig && iwconfig?06:13
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ChefWillifconfig just shows eth0 and lo06:13
ChefWill!paste06:13
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.06:13
HobbseeChefWill: and iwconfig?06:13
ChefWillpasting06:13
regeya_beavis_: meh.06:13
nixternalHobbsee: when did you sneak in?06:14
ChefWillhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1596306:14
Hobbseenixternal: a while ago06:14
HobbseeUptime: 1 hours and 48 minutes06:14
Hobbseethat long ago06:14
nixternalim blind ;)06:14
ChefWillthats not my network though Hobbsee06:14
HobbseeChefWill: want to paste the output of iwlist wlan0 scan?06:14
robotgeekChefWill: if you are on dapper, you can use the native drivers?06:15
ChefWillyou mean eth1 ;)06:15
HobbseeChefWill: yeah, eth1, just saw that06:15
ChefWillHobbsee:  it just shows that one06:15
ChefWillbelkin54g06:15
ChefWillwell my homes network is hidden06:15
ChefWillit doesnt broadcast06:15
Hobbseeit doesnt show the hidden one though?  it should just show with a blank SSID06:16
ChefWillno06:16
ChefWillit just shows Cell 01 ESSID Belkin54g06:16
Hobbseeack.06:16
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ChefWillin knetworkmanager there isnt even a "Wireless Device"06:16
ChefWillit lets me disable wireless, but no wireless device06:16
robotgeekhmm, i had to restart for it to work for me06:17
ChefWilli have restarted06:17
ChefWilli just did actually06:17
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ChefWill;/06:20
robotgeekit sucks to restart though , you should never have to do that on linux!06:21
ChefWillidk whats wrong06:21
Hobbseerobotgeek: except kernel updates.  you can actually restart the networkmanager, but it always seems to crash on me when i try06:22
crimsunI am totally down with rebooting randomly.06:22
ChefWillso what an i try Hobbsee?06:22
Hobbseei'd try connecting to that belkin network...06:22
ChefWillwell knetworkmanager doesnt een list a wireless device06:22
ChefWillit just shows wired06:22
Hobbseetrue, looks like NM didnt start properly then06:23
ChefWillrestart it?06:23
HobbseeChefWill: did you run ndiswrapper -m?06:23
robotgeekdo we still have to remove all entries from /etc/network/interfaces?06:23
ChefWillndii think so Hobbsee06:23
ChefWilli already did robotgeek06:23
ChefWillHobbsee: how do i make sure?06:23
Hobbseerobotgeek: i just left mine at the default06:23
HobbseeChefWill: run it again, and see what message it gives you06:24
robotgeekHobbsee: okay, thanks06:24
ChefWillHobbsee:  do i just want ndiswrapper or ndiswrapper -m in /etc/modules ?06:24
Hobbseejust ndiswrapper06:24
ChefWillthats what i have06:24
ChefWillso it should start06:24
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ChefWillndiswrapper -m shows: modprobe config already contains alias directive06:25
Hobbseeinteresting, okay06:25
Hobbseeyep06:25
Hobbseecool06:25
ruisuhi, hey., do i need to boot domain name system?06:25
ChefWill;/06:26
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ruisudo i?06:26
Hobbseeum?06:27
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ruisudo i need to boot with the Domain Name service?06:27
ChefWillwhy wouldnt wireless even show up in knetworkmanager06:27
geneo93 Hobbsee is it nonchown or nochown06:27
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Hobbseenot a clue06:28
ruisuok06:28
ChefWillnochown06:28
[Evil] [Ernie] !voip06:28
ubotu[Evil] [Ernie] : Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:28
geneo93ok thanks06:28
ruisuso i see you are having problems with ndiswrapper?06:28
ChefWillme? yes06:28
[Evil] [Ernie] anyone know of a linux application that does voip?06:28
ChefWillwell idk if its ndiswrapper or knetworkmanager06:28
ruisui use ndiswrapper06:29
ChefWillndiswrapper shows driver installed06:29
ChefWillbut knetworkmanager isnt listing wireless interface06:29
ruisuok, use iwconfig with your config06:29
ChefWill?06:30
ruisuand then use dhclient06:30
ChefWill?06:30
ruisuiwconfig wlan0 essid UrSSID key 12345678906:30
ruisuor what ever configuration you have06:30
ruisuin the console06:31
ChefWilliwconfig eth1 essid Skye key A0F79CE1E306:31
ChefWill?06:31
ruisuyea06:31
ruisuno06:31
ChefWill;/06:31
ruisuits not eth106:31
ChefWillyea it is06:31
ruisuits wlan006:31
ChefWillno06:31
Hobbseeit is eth106:31
ChefWillnot on mine06:32
Hobbseeruisu: it is eth106:32
ruisuook06:32
ruisuumm, i guess06:32
ruisui tought ndiswrapper was made for wireless cards06:32
Hobbseeit is06:32
ChefWillok now what06:32
ChefWillit set that as my config06:32
ruisuok, use dhclient06:32
Hobbseeit's just been detected as a wireless, and been given eth1, for some reason06:32
ChefWillhow?06:32
ruisuoook06:32
ruisuin the console too06:33
ruisuand there should be some responses06:33
ChefWillyea..06:33
ruisulike dhcpdiscover and stuff06:33
ruisuand that should do it06:33
ChefWilli guess i need to disable eth006:33
ruisudunno,06:33
ChefWill;/06:34
HobbseeChefWill: usually, yeah06:34
ruisubut, im guessing you are oviously not on that machine you are having trouble06:34
Hobbseerun sudo dhclient eth106:34
Hobbseeit'll auto cut out the eth006:34
ChefWillok done Hobbsee06:34
ChefWillim still connected thru eth0 though06:35
HobbseeChefWill: did it get a lease?06:35
ChefWillcant really switch to eth1 since knetworkmanager isnt showing my eth1 :(06:35
ChefWilli think so?06:35
ruisuso? are there any respon.. ah, i think you should kill the eth0.. dont ask me how, ive never donit06:35
ChefWilli got an ip, so i think id id06:35
ruisu:P06:35
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ruisuyeah06:35
HobbseeChefWill: ignore knm for the minute06:35
ChefWilluebook:~$06:36
HobbseeChefWill: okay, sudo ifdown eth006:36
ChefWillknm?06:36
HobbseeChefWill: knetworkmanager06:36
ChefWillit says eth0 not configured06:36
Hobbseeyeah good06:36
ChefWillok..06:36
Hobbseepull the network cable just to make sure...06:36
ruisumhm06:36
Hobbseethen run sudo apt-get update06:37
ruisuok, noone knows if i need DNS?06:37
ruisu....module?06:37
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HawkwindHedgeMage: !!!!!!!!!!06:38
HedgeMagehi Hawkwind06:38
HedgeMagelong time no see06:38
ruisuhello06:38
HawkwindLong time no see hun, how ya been ?06:38
HedgeMageHawkwind: fall off the Mandrake/Mandriva bandwagon I take it?06:38
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HawkwindHedgeMage: I'm still on Mandriva on this box for another day or so, then it's all Kubuntu :)06:39
ChefWill_ok Hobbsee06:39
ChefWill_im connected wirelessly06:39
ChefWill_now how to get knetworkmanager is06:39
HedgeMageI'm good, busy as always.06:39
HawkwindHedgeMage: How's TT doing ?06:39
HobbseeChefWill: no reason you have to run knetworkmanager at all, you know..06:39
HedgeMageHawkwind: if you want to visit, can we go to #ubuntu-offtopic so we don't drive everyone batty?06:39
ChefWill_well06:39
robotgeekHedgeMage: awfully useful in hotel rooms, i found out 2 days ago :)06:39
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ChefWill_its a lot easier Hobbsee cause im always connecting to other networks06:40
robotgeekerr, Hobbsee06:40
HobbseeChefWill: that is true06:40
Hobbseerobotgeek: hmmm?06:40
robotgeekHedgeMage: type complettion error, my apologies06:40
ChefWill_so how can i fix?06:40
HedgeMagerofl06:40
robotgeekHobbsee: awfully useful in hotel rooms, i found out 2 days ago :)06:40
Hobbseerobotgeek: that is true :)06:40
ruisuok, good bye :)06:40
HedgeMagerobotgeek: at first I read that as saying I'm useful in hotel rooms, and wondered what I don't remember from 2 days ago ;)06:40
Hobbseeheh, was wondering why you were suddenly addressing HedgeMag*e06:40
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robotgeeklol!06:41
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ChefWillsoo06:44
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ChefWillmy wificard is obviously setup right06:44
ChefWillso why isnt knetworkmanager picking it up06:44
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MadRushhowdy gents06:45
crimsunI haven't the faintest clue RE: knetworkmanager, but I'm more familiar w/ wireless(7) and interfaces(5)06:45
MadRushany of you guys play around with vmware server?06:45
ruisuok, so i get locked up when i try to shut down de computer, it stays while shuting down domain name service... any help?06:45
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ruisuok06:58
ruisubye :S06:58
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RawSewagea new version of Linux has been released.  Does that get incorporated into Kubuntu?06:58
crimsunno06:59
RawSewageits like a different distro?06:59
RawSewageIm clueless, sorry06:59
crimsunall dev work was done against 2.6.1506:59
RawSewageoh06:59
crimsunto simply drop 2.6.17 it would be utter insanity06:59
crimsunin^06:59
RawSewageEdgy will use that though, I guess06:59
crimsunyes, Edgy will use at least 2.6.1707:00
crimsundepends what's decided this week at the Paris conf07:00
RawSewageIm ready to start testing Edgy07:00
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crimsunyou're mad :p07:01
TheRawSewage: same here, once it boots07:01
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RawSewagewhen do you think the first build will be released07:02
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HobbseeRawSewage: no idea, but you can dist upgrade07:03
Hobbseesomeitmes07:04
RawSewagealready?07:04
Hobbseeyeah07:04
Hobbseedont upgrade udev though, i see in #ubuntu+107:04
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RawSewage[05:06]  [Notice]  -ChanServ- [#ubuntu+1]  Edgy Eft is not yet usable. Please don't use it yet.07:06
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ma3cshello people !07:08
ma3cshow to init 3 ?07:09
ma3cson kubunut of course ?07:09
ma3csnobody here ?07:09
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RawSewageerm... I use Kubuntu...  so I cant use #Ubuntu+107:10
RawSewageright07:10
RawSewageI cant use the updates07:10
bioticproHas anyone here used dyndns or similar service?  Im trying to set up so I can access a remote computer that has a dynapic ip (its on dialup)07:11
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ma3csinit 3 ....07:13
ma3cssomebody help me ... please07:13
ma3csworking with Ctrl+Alt ...F307:14
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ma3csbut i want to start dierct ini307:15
ma3csdirect init 307:15
ma3cshelllo07:15
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osirisma3cs, that used to be defined in /etc/inittab07:28
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joedjhas anyone upgraded from breezy to dapper and had all their scrollbars break (i.e. look like random noise)? i'm using the Baghira theme07:31
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noiesmojoedj, i am pretty sure its related to gtk2-engines-gtk-qt07:34
TubaSoldieris there any way to install kubuntu over a network using a floppy to boot? most linux distros can do this but i have not found or seen any documentation for this kind of installation with kubuntu/ubuntu07:34
noiesmojoedj, I had trouble with fireofx and thunderbird on kubuntu dapper using the baghira theame07:34
crimsunjoedj: for gtk apps, you mean?07:34
faroushow to check up loaded modules ? just listing them07:34
crimsunfarous: lsmod07:35
farousthanx crimsun07:35
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joedjyeah, looks like GTK apps. firefox and thunderbird have the brokenness, konqueror is ok07:36
crimsunyeah, it's probably gtk2-engines-gtk-qt07:36
noiesmojoedj, sudo apt-get remove gtk2-engines-gtk-qt07:36
crimsunget rid of ~/.gtkrc-2.007:36
farouscrimsun: one more quest. which file sepcify the loading of those modules other than /etc/modules07:36
crimsunfarous: none. udev does it.07:36
farousok thanx again you are quite helpfull take care :)07:37
crimsunbye07:37
joedjaww07:37
joedjnoiesmo: that 'fixed' it, but i lose my nice theme in the gtk apps :)07:37
crimsungtk2-engines-gtk-qt has documented, glaring bugs07:38
noiesmojoedj, you can reinstall and try what crimsun recommended i didnt try that07:38
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Lunar_RavenI just downloaded java, and extracted it.  How do I make this new java directory the default one for programs?07:39
DaSkreechParis!! :)07:41
RawSewageMy Spam Filter button isnt appearing in the KMail toolbar07:41
RawSewageIts invisible07:41
noiesmoDaSkreech, hey :)07:41
RawSewagehow can I fix that07:41
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Sup??07:41
noiesmoDaSkreech, just hangin07:42
CaptainMorganfolks, any idea why thunderbird will not fit within the screen in KDE/ubuntu? is it an extension? is it a bug? what? for example, doens't matter which layout is going, I got classic right now and the mesage index goes off to the right and when viewing a message it also goes off to the right where I can't see it. This also happens when drafting a message...07:42
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Cool07:42
DaSkreechAugh!!07:42
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Kool Kool07:42
joedjnoiesmo,crimsun: nah, no luck, but i'd rather have the brokenness of gtk2-engines-gtk-qt than the ugliness of regular GTK apps, anyway =P07:42
crimsunCaptainMorgan: I've experienced that, too. It's utterly annoying.07:42
CaptainMorganhow did you fix it?07:42
crimsunI didn't.07:42
noiesmojoedj, use another theme or buy an apple computer07:42
joedjnoiesmo: i'll take option #3 - just put up with it07:43
crimsunI pretty much open messages in new windows.07:43
noiesmojoedj, np :)07:43
noiesmoLunar_Raven, I would creat a deb package for java and then install that have instructions if you want you will still have to make a symbolic link for the firefox java plugin07:44
crimsun...or you could use sun-java5* in multiverse.07:44
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Lunar_Ravensure i'll take instructions for that07:46
Lunar_Raven:)07:46
noiesmoLunar_Raven, sudo apt-get install java-package then fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin then sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb make sure you Adjust jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin to suite the one you download07:47
crimsun...or you could just enable multiverse and install sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-plugin07:48
Lunar_Ravenok thanks07:48
CaptainMorganwhat are the default image editing tools in kde?07:53
crimsunkrita, I believe?07:53
Lunar_Ravenwell i was going to try the official java packages, crimsun..for whatever reason on azureus, the buttons (on popup notifications) don't work..and I can't get the damn things to go away07:54
Lunar_RavenI'm guessing it's probably a java issue?07:54
Lunar_Ravenheh07:54
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benner_hello, i have just installed win32codecs, and kaffeine or amarok is still unable to read mp3, divx etc...  xine engine is in the menu08:04
orient2000win32codecs is for linux or wondows?08:05
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benner_for linux08:06
chavobenner_, you need to install libxine-extracodecs for that08:06
benner_let me see...08:07
orient2000I do nor remember installing these. My mp3 is working, I can watch my dvd's but can not remember what i did. i think all xine dvd libraries08:07
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benner_oups i though it was in adept manager08:07
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orient2000whatether i got was from adept08:08
chavowin32codecs is for wma and quicktime stuff08:08
benner_i did what is in there : http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/08:08
chavobenner_, the gstreamer codecs are for gnome apps, kubuntu uses xine08:09
orient2000nice link  thx08:09
benner_your welcome even if it wasnt good for me ;)08:10
chavoif you have universe and multiverse repos enabled just -> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs08:10
benner_Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:11
benner_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:11
benner_i think i dont have good repos08:11
Hobbseebenner_: close adept/any other apt-get windows08:11
keffo511umm. requiring java runtime from multiverse with adept, stuck on 28%, and details show half of some license agreement... ?08:11
benner_Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:12
benner_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:12
benner_is only available from another source08:12
Hobbsee!tell benner_ about multiverse08:12
Lunar_Ravenwould anyone know why the buttons on azureus don't work? o.o08:13
benner_do i have dapper or breezy ? lol08:13
chavooh good question :)08:13
chavo cat /etc/issue08:14
benner_says " Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l "08:14
chavothat's dapper08:14
benner_good to know08:14
DaSkreechlsb_release -a08:14
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benner_ok i could download libxine-extracodecs08:17
benner_should i restart xwindows?08:17
chavono just restart the app08:17
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benner_still same thing.. amarok just dont play, and kaffeine says no plugins found to handle this ressource08:19
[Evil] [Ernie] hmm08:20
[Evil] [Ernie] good luck with mp3 =p08:20
[Evil] [Ernie] ive been trying with no success08:20
[Evil] [Ernie] i did manage to get amarok to crash on bootup everytime though08:20
benner_oh my god, i found why, mp3 files should be local08:21
[Evil] [Ernie] even after removing and reinstalling it08:21
chavobenner_, make sure you quit out of them, they both have a systrem tray feature and you have to explictly quit from the menu08:21
noiesmo[Evil] [Ernie] , for mp3 you will need muliverse and universe then sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracodecs08:21
kkathmanhey there chavo  how goes it?08:21
benner_did u follow what chavo said, because me it work now, but mp3 file should be in my hd and not by network08:21
[Evil] [Ernie] hmm08:21
[Evil] [Ernie] i have libxine.. but not libmad008:22
chavoHEY kkathman08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] guess i'll add that08:22
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crimsun(libxine-extracodecs actually depends on libmad0, so it's unnecessary to explicitly specify it)08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] nay08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] already have it08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] hm08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] i read the wiki about this08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] did everything it said08:22
[Evil] [Ernie] but nothing will play mp3s =p08:23
noiesmo[Evil] [Ernie] , have you adjusted the engine for amarok08:23
noiesmo[Evil] [Ernie] , i using amarok for mp3 as  i type08:23
[Evil] [Ernie] hm08:23
CaptainMorganhow do I set permissions with K3b?/Kreator? either gui or cL ? sudo Kreator/sudo K3b doesn't work....08:23
benner_chavo: it's work fine now good! thanks, but do u have a clue why i can't open from my file server by network?08:23
[Evil] [Ernie] i haven't adjusted the engine for amarok, as i have no idea how to do that :)08:23
CaptainMorgantyring to erase a cd but getting bashed for incorrect perms08:23
noiesmo[Evil] [Ernie] , open amarok click on Menu then configure amarok08:24
noiesmoCaptainMorgan, you need to set a group permissions for k3b08:24
noiesmoCaptainMorgan, I would make sure your user is part of cdrom group and then run k3bsetup and adjust08:25
CaptainMorgannoiesmo: how? comm line doesnt't seem to recognize the 'k3b'08:25
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CaptainMorganhmm.. ill try08:25
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[Evil] [Ernie] ack08:26
[Evil] [Ernie] it works now08:26
CaptainMorganhm.. Im definately apart of the cdrom group....08:27
[Evil] [Ernie] i didnt even change any menu options08:27
benner_maybe he rewrite the parameter file08:27
[Evil] [Ernie] i got angry with it and uninstalled it earlier08:27
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[Evil] [Ernie] just now i reinstalled with adept and perhaps got a package i didnt have before08:27
[Evil] [Ernie] ;)08:27
noiesmoCaptainMorgan, ok open k3b and go to settings then k3b setup08:27
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benner_we can both now listen at our music ;) but me i still have my problem that it doest work from network08:28
[Evil] [Ernie] aye08:28
[Evil] [Ernie] i had that problem08:28
[Evil] [Ernie] i plan to just store it locally =o08:28
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[Evil] [Ernie] unless you have any ideas for getting it to play files that arent local!08:28
CaptainMorgannoiesmo: what do I set the burning group to? or what do I do after I get to k3b setup?08:29
CaptainMorgannot many optinos...08:29
benner_they should be on network.. i share them with all my workgroup08:29
firepolhi, how to configure Thunderbird (or Kubuntu) so that when i click a link (e.g. inbside an email) it will be opened in Firefox instead of Konqueror?08:29
noiesmoCaptainMorgan, set burning group to cdrom08:30
[Evil] [Ernie] firepol08:30
[Evil] [Ernie] have you checked the thunderbird options?08:30
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ubuntuhi all08:31
ubuntu:d08:31
firepol<[Evil] [Ernie] >: i have the same problem in openoffice08:31
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[Evil] [Ernie] hm08:31
benner_firepol i am really not an linux expert, but i saw the link who explain it08:31
[Evil] [Ernie] it's a system setting... i saw it earlier08:31
exceswaterhey guys can somebody help me with an advice08:31
[Evil] [Ernie] let me check08:31
exceswater? ? ?08:31
benner_Start Firefox08:31
benner_Type about:config in the address bar.08:32
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benner_#08:32
benner_Right click on the list, select New->Boolean Type network.protocol-handler.external.help as Preference Name and true as Value08:32
exceswateri have a problem with starting kubuntu08:32
exceswaterit starts... and after it displays first splash screen and loading some things08:32
benner_no sorry firepol that doesnt that one forget it08:33
exceswaterwhen the splash screen appears next... it halts08:33
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CaptainMorganthanks noiesmo ;)08:33
CaptainMorganall set08:33
noiesmoexceswater, check your log file for kdm do sudo cat /var/log/kdm.log08:33
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firepol<exceswater> ... ok im restarting firefox, lets see08:34
noiesmoCaptainMorgan, np working08:34
noiesmoexceswater, check your log file for gdm do sudo cat /var/log/gdm.log08:34
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[Evil] [Ernie] firepol08:34
benner_firepol just start firefox, and go to edit, preferences, and click the case default browser08:34
_rince_mrgn08:35
[Evil] [Ernie] aye08:35
animatohello, i'm using kubuntu 6.06 and i'm having some troubles with the mplayer plugin in ff/swiftfox. i accidently deleted the file extention for wmv in the "download actions" menu of ff/swiftfox, and now it won't play streaming wmvs :( how can i fix it?08:35
[Evil] [Ernie] benner beat me to it =P08:35
exceswateri am looking at the log...08:35
benner_haha i am a very beginner at linux08:35
exceswateri have started now kubuntu from Live CD08:35
exceswateri dunno where to paste my log08:35
nixternal!pastebin08:36
noiesmopastebin.com08:36
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.08:36
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[Evil] [Ernie] firepol: go into System Settings -> KDE Components08:37
exceswaterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1596508:37
exceswaterhere is my log08:37
firepolbenner: konqueror is still the default08:37
[Evil] [Ernie] Default Applications -> Web Browser08:37
noiesmoexceswater, k looking08:37
exceswaterand thank you guys08:37
exceswateri am so new to this08:37
animato??08:37
exceswater:D08:37
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[Evil] [Ernie] did you get that firepol?08:38
firepol<[Evil] [Ernie] >: ive already did that and selected firefox...08:38
[Evil] [Ernie] aye08:38
[Evil] [Ernie] well that should do it!08:38
firepolopenoffice and thunderbird still open links in konqueror08:38
firepolis konqueror a virus like intzernet explorer???08:38
[Evil] [Ernie] mine operates as intended08:38
[Evil] [Ernie] just uninstall konqueror =p08:38
[Evil] [Ernie] but you use that to browse your system too, so... may not be such a good idea!08:39
firepoli know, i was joking08:39
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firepolthe problem is that it keeps opening links instead letting firefrox to do0 that08:39
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firepoli did as you guys told me, no way08:39
noiesmoexceswater, what log file was that also paste up  sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:39
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noiesmoexceswater, nothing interesting there08:40
kuzmasterhello all08:40
firepol will try in some forums maybe08:40
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[Evil] [Ernie] firepol: maybe look in the options of konqueror08:40
[Evil] [Ernie] see if you can make it stop =o08:41
firepolor maybe restart kde08:41
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exceswaternoiesmo:08:43
benner_can i mount a network folder ?08:43
exceswaterthis is second log08:43
exceswaterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1596608:43
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noiesmoexceswater, seems ok, ok so you login then it hangs when loading kde right?08:45
exceswaternope08:46
exceswaterit starts08:46
exceswaterit displays first splash screen08:46
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exceswaterblack with kubuntu logo and loading things08:46
exceswaterand it finishes first time08:46
exceswaterthe screen blanks08:46
exceswaterand after that ... when it displays again kubuntu logo and .... it halts08:47
noiesmoexceswater, is there any files in /home/username/.kde/Autostart/08:47
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noiesmoexceswater, also is there a /home/yourusername/.xsessions08:48
exceswateri dunno how to explore trough my linux now... i run kubuntu now from live cd08:48
kuzmaster_hello all, can somone please tell me how to remove a partially installed/downloaded java runtime envrioment?08:48
kuzmaster_cos i tried to install it via add/remove programs, but it diddnt work08:49
chavokuzmaster, did you try to install it with adept?08:49
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benner_somebody know why i cant listen mp3 from my network, kde act likes if it was a site, and ask me if i want to save or open it, i click open and nothing play, only the title appears in the mp3 player08:49
kuzmaster_yes, and it dosnt work08:49
noiesmoexceswater, on the live cd desktop is there a harddrive icon that you could click on08:49
chavokuzmaster try sudo apt-get -f install08:49
exceswateri tried08:49
exceswaterit says it cannot mount hda108:49
kuzmaster_chavo, but anyway, i then tried to do it via apt-get, and that diddnt work either08:50
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kuzmaster_chavo, its saying...E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:50
chavokuzmaster did you close adept?08:50
kuzmaster_yes08:50
exceswatercan't find: /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:50
noiesmoexceswater, ok open a terminal and try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 the ext3 is the file system type hopefully you used it for install08:51
kuzmaster_chavo, ill do sudo dpkg --configure -a, that seems to fix that problem08:51
kuzmaster_chavo, nope. it just says....status database area is locked by another process08:52
chavokuzmaster seems like apt or something else is running08:52
kuzmaster_but i dont think nothing eles like that is running08:53
exceswaterit says cannot find media/hda108:53
noiesmoexceswater, ok08:53
kuzmaster_i have firefox, konverstation, ktorrent, and konsole08:53
kuzmaster_chavo, i think at least, that what i can c if my task bar08:54
noiesmoexceswater, ok open a terminal and try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 instead the /mnt/hda1 is were we want to be able to access it08:54
exceswaterand where we want to acces ?08:54
exceswater:D08:54
chavoyou prob need to sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 first08:54
kuzmaster_brb08:54
noiesmoexceswater, yes what chavo just said08:55
noiesmoexceswater, if need08:55
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kuzmaster_back08:55
exceswaterok08:56
benner_is it normal that amarok dont want play mp3 from smb:// or from a ntfs mount drive.. it work only if the mp3 is copied into the linux partition08:56
exceswatermkdir ok08:56
noiesmoexceswater, yep08:56
exceswatermounted ok08:56
noiesmoexceswater, type sudo -i08:56
noiesmoexceswater, you should now be root user08:56
exceswateri am08:57
exceswater:d08:57
exceswaterkinda cool being root :D08:57
kuzmaster_chavo, so, any ideas08:57
exceswaterblonde remark :d08:57
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noiesmoexceswater, now cd /mnt/hda1/  :)08:57
exceswaterok08:57
exceswaterdone08:57
noiesmoexceswater, ok find the logs in var/log and paste also check your home folder08:58
exceswateraaa?08:58
kuzmaster_ill try re-starting kde08:58
exceswatermore explicit please...08:58
chavokuzmaster there's a lock on the database, i'm not sure how to remove it08:58
noiesmoexceswater, soz08:58
noiesmoexceswater, ok now cd home/username08:58
exceswaterok08:59
noiesmoexceswater, ls .kde/Autostart08:59
noiesmoexceswater, anything there08:59
Hobbseechavo: sudo rm /path/to/lock/dpkg.lock or whatever it is08:59
exceswatershould something happen ?09:00
exceswaternothing happened09:00
chavoHobbsee, yeah I can't remember where the lock file was09:00
exceswaterls .kde/Autostart09:00
Hobbseeit shows you where it is, when dpkg wont run..09:00
noiesmoexceswater, ok theres nothing in Autostart09:00
exceswater:D09:00
exceswaternice09:00
noiesmoexceswater, ok ls .xses*09:00
benner_chavo: is it normal that amarok dont want play mp3 from smb:// or from a ntfs mount drive.. it work only if the mp3 is copied into the linux partition09:01
exceswaterexceswaterls .xses*09:01
chavobenner_, I haven't tried it, are you using smbmount?09:01
exceswaterls .xses*09:01
exceswaterdonw09:01
exceswaterdone09:01
exceswaternothing happens09:02
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noiesmoexceswater, type pwd please09:02
exceswatera09:02
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noiesmopwd09:02
kuzmaster_back09:02
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benner_no i go into system menu, remote places, samba share, click on my workgroup and choose a mp3 folder09:02
exceswatershould i type password ?09:02
noiesmoexceswater, pwd should return /mnt/hda1/home/username/09:03
noiesmoexceswater, just pwd09:03
kuzmaster_chavo, so do you know how i can remove the partially installed/downloaded jre?09:03
noiesmoexceswater, what to know the path your at09:03
chavokuzmaster do you not want to install it?09:03
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kuzmaster_yes i do09:03
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chavoyou have to use the commandline, it's a bug with the install script and adept09:04
kuzmaster_i want to remove it, then install it via apt-get09:04
kuzmaster_brb09:04
kuzmaster_restart kde again09:05
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kuzmasterback09:06
kuzmasterchavo, so how can i fix my problem09:06
chavokuzmaster, you should ba able to install it with apt-get now09:07
kuzmasterno i cant09:07
kuzmasterit keeps saying that the database is locked or somthing09:07
kuzmasterill pastebin the output of sudo apt-get -f update09:07
noiesmokuzmaster,  ls -l /var/{lib/dpkg,cache/apt/archives}/lock09:08
kuzmasterhere09:08
kuzmasterhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71788809:08
kuzmasterchavo, ill try that09:08
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kuzmastersudo?09:08
noiesmon09:09
noiesmono09:09
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kuzmasterheres my output http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71788909:09
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kuzmasterchavo, sooooooooo what now?09:11
chavokuzmaster, I'm not sure09:11
kuzmasterchavo, k09:12
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exceswaternoiesmo: i had a problem09:12
exceswaterkonsole closed ...09:12
RawSewageMy Spam Filter button isnt appearing in the KMail toolbar09:12
RawSewageIts invisible09:12
RawSewagehow can I fix that09:12
exceswaterand now i am in home/ubuntu09:12
exceswater:D09:12
exceswateri shoot myself09:13
kuzmasteralso, remember when you where tellin me and imbrandon about those changes to that kde file about the taskbar09:13
kuzmasterchavo, can you please tell me them again09:13
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RawSewageare you talking to me09:14
chavokuzmaster, sure to make the button wider?09:14
hcetinslm.09:14
noiesmoexceswater, np09:14
hcetins09:14
hcetinss09:14
noiesmoexceswater, ok you in mnt drive09:14
kuzmasterno, to stop that gray box when you mouse over a application09:15
kuzmasterto stop it from turning gray09:15
chavook, open up ~/.kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc09:15
kuzmasteryes09:16
chavothen look for ->ShowButtonOnHover=false09:16
kuzmasterummm09:16
kuzmasterhang on09:16
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noiesmoexceswater, brb09:17
kuzmasteryess09:17
chavoyou can comment it out like this //09:17
chavothe default is true09:17
kuzmasterno actually, thats not there09:17
chavooh you wanted to add it?09:17
kuzmasteryeah09:17
chavook it goes under the [Appearance]  section09:18
kuzmasterok09:18
kuzmasterso i put ShowButtonOnHover=false09:18
kuzmasterin09:18
chavothen dcop kicker kicker restart09:18
kuzmasterand is there a way to change the little icon for the programs on the taskbar?09:18
kuzmasterok09:18
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kuzmasterchavo, is there a way to change the little icon for the programs on the taskbar?09:19
chavokuzmaster, the icons for each program or for the menu?09:19
chavoeither way they are in the icon theme09:20
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kuzmasterno, the ones that display when that application is open09:20
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kuzmasteri mainly want to do it for firefox09:20
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chavooh ok that one is different09:20
kuzmastercan i do it?09:21
chavothe firefox icon is -> /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm09:22
aftertafmorning :)09:22
kuzmasterok, thanx09:22
chavoif you have a png, just use convert09:22
kuzmasterso i just change the file in the archive09:22
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kuzmastersorry, so where would i find the icon on the HD09:23
kuzmasterto change it in the menu i just went to the icon thingy, and it was under applications09:24
kuzmasterbut where are the icons actually stored09:24
chavoto change the icon on the app is this one  /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm09:24
chavobut that's just for firefox09:24
chavoany other app icons come from the icon theme09:25
kuzmasteryeah i know, but where are the system icons stored09:25
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kuzmasterthe ones that come up when you right click a program ,and click on the icon, and theres a list of other icons09:25
kuzmasterthats where i got the one for firefox for the menu09:26
chavokuzmaster, like I said they are in the icon theme so it depends on the theme09:26
kuzmasterok09:26
RawSewageWhat do I do if Kontact wont start.  I get a bug crash09:26
chavothe icon themes are in /usr/share/icons09:27
chavobut if you install them they go in ~/.kde/share/icons09:27
kuzmasterthanks09:27
kuzmasterok09:27
chavoyou can just cp -r the icon theme to your .kde/share/icons if you want to modify it09:28
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zodoHey all.  I'm having some struggles with dnsmasq.  I'm trying to use it for both dns and dhcp serving...but prior to having it installed, I was running bind9 and dhcpd3.  Apt uninstalled both of the latter.  However, none of the machines on my lan seem to be able to get ips from it.09:33
zodoAre there any wierd configuration bits that dhcpd3 and bind9 could've left behind that might be preventing it from working?09:34
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aftertafzodo, is it configured ok?09:35
zodoYeah, I'm pretty sure that I have it configured fine.09:35
zodoI went through it by myself first, then compared against a guide online.09:36
zodoAnd it's running, that much I know.09:36
aftertafweird.... firewall / port issuses maybe?09:36
aftertafwhat does ifup eth0 on another machne say?09:36
zodoI'm running firestarter, however I've told it to let all of my machines access whatever they want on the server.09:37
zodoThe other machines are all running windows...I'l try rebooting one of them into dapper.09:38
aftertaftry stopping the fw completely to test...09:39
aftertafnever know...09:39
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zodoI run flux, and I've been having some wierd issues with it.  Many apps don't seem to be able to find the display, for some reason.09:40
zodoSheesh, bitchx is confusing, how it lumps multiple channels into one.09:42
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resmohi09:42
zodoI keep responding to things in the wrong channel.09:42
aftertafzodo, not a sudo issue? running as root or sth like that?09:42
zodoaftertaf: The flux thing?  I don't think so.  I can usually get them running with an "export DISPLAY=" command.09:43
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aftertafah oki.09:43
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zodoOk, I'm trying to renew one of my machines' ip addresses in dapper...it finally gives up saying "No DHCPOFFERS recieved"09:46
aftertafok, then it ISNT offering any...09:47
zodoYeah, that's much I figured.09:47
zodoHmm.09:47
aftertaf:) did you drop the firewall completely?09:47
resmoi got some troubles sending email with attachments... the status bar goes up to 99 % and stops then. seems to be a bug.09:47
zodoNo, I haven't tried that.09:47
zodoI should.09:47
zodoBRB.09:47
aftertafzodo, maybe. worth testing before attacking serious reconfiguration for nothing......;09:48
zodoWell holy underwear, Batman...that did it.09:49
aftertafyay...........09:49
zodoThat should've been obvious to me to try.  I'm tired...09:50
aftertafthere be a port tha be blocked there be. arrrrrrr ;)09:50
zodoI've been at this for 13 hours today, uninterrupted.09:50
aftertafzodo, nothing is obvious.    not at all times......09:50
aftertafthats why ;)09:50
aftertafi just woke up mate ;)09:50
zodoYeah, it's late here in San Fran.09:50
aftertafhehe i imagine.09:51
zodoI did this all day yesterday too...I discovered that the recent kernel security patches don't play well with lilo.09:51
zodoKernel panics n' such.09:52
aftertafargh really? 2.6.13-25 ?09:52
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zodo2.6.15-25, I think, yeah.09:52
aftertafnasty.....09:52
zodoIt ate *fresh* installs for lunch.09:53
aftertafjust installed them now. not rebooted yet.09:53
zodoAre you running desktop or server?09:53
aftertafdesktop..... i was on 5.04 and have upgraded since then......09:54
aftertafwas on breezy, went to dapper unstable and now its *stable* ;)09:54
aftertafso not a fresh install.09:54
aftertafi've actually never had a working linux that still works fro so long now, its great :)09:54
zodoI must've installed dapper server 3 times before I realized that those patches were breaking things.09:54
zodoThen I finally figured out how to get grub working (no more error 17s) on this old PII laptop.09:55
aftertafreally? wow. nasty.09:55
aftertafyou need to modify grub?09:55
zodoYeah, it seemed that lilo didn't mind the boot partition being after a certain cylinder on the hd.09:56
zodoBut grub did.09:56
zodoI finally made a little partition for /boot at the beginning of the drive, then installed that way.09:56
aftertafon, fresh installs this problem occurs?09:57
zodoYup.09:57
zodoIf you do the stock install, grub'll choke with an error 17 every time.09:57
aftertafgood to know..... ;)09:57
zodoI think it's related to the age of this laptop though...old-school BIOS that is peculiar about large hds.09:58
zodoI've got a 40 gig hd in this thing, but it can only address 30.09:58
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aftertafok.....09:58
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eightieskI reinstalled windows how can I get kubuntu back?10:00
aftertaf!grub10:01
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting10:01
aftertafeightiesk, see that last lin,k !10:01
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zodoLooks like Kernel 2.6.17 just went official.10:02
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eightieskwhat would be the easyest way?10:03
aftertafwhere d you see that zodo ?10:03
aftertafeightiesk, following the link is the easiest way.... just like alice :] 10:03
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eightieskI mean the grub super disk or the live disk10:04
zodoSlashdot just reported it.10:04
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zodoIt may be a bit before there's a package for us though.10:04
zodoBut it appearently includes some speed increases for dual core machines.10:05
zodoAs well as in kernel support for the Apple Airport series hardware.10:05
zodoSome iptables updates, as well.10:06
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aftertaftrue. wont be today :)10:06
zodoMy roomie is a WoW addict, and while I was figuring out the DHCP issues, I set him up w/ a static ip.  However, he started complaining about lag and speed issues...now that I've taken down the firestarter firewall, they're gone.10:07
zodoVery curious.10:08
aftertafhmm10:08
aftertaflots of icmp blocks maybe.10:08
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zodoI'd noticed it too...my download speeds dropped from the 500k/s range to the 50k/s range.10:09
zodoEven pulling from apt repositories on the firewall machine itself.10:10
aftertafsome config issue somewhere maybe.... not an expert.10:10
zodoNetworking has really been the bane of my existance with ubuntu...my main machine can't serve data at any reasonable speed in dapper either...looking at the packets w/ ethereal shows that many are coming out malformed, with incorrect crcs.10:11
aftertafdriver not 100% maybe.10:12
aftertafzodo, do a bugreport....10:12
zodoYeah, that was my thought.10:12
zodoIt's been rolled into the kernel, and it's a fairly mainstream driver.10:12
aftertafcontact the maintainer.....10:13
zodoHmmm...I may just do that.10:13
aftertafhehe10:13
aftertafif you have a different NIC, try with that, see if it changes anything.10:13
zodoI don't have a spare one floating around, unfortunately.10:14
zodoLow bandwidth things like surfing around work great, with no delay.10:14
aftertafshame.... a way to eliminate and test10:14
zodoAs soon as I start blasting data over the local network, streaming a movie or something, things come screeching to a halt.10:15
fekmoin10:15
aftertafmorn;)10:15
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zodoHmm...looks like my main machines network card driver is being pulled from the restricted modules...it's made by the manufacturer.10:19
zodoWonderful.10:19
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aftertafargh!10:20
zodoI found lots of forum posts about the driver (sk98lin) hanging back in the k 2.4 days.10:21
zodoProbably not much improved.  I hate big corporations.10:21
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zodoWell, I'm going to sleep.  Have a good night (day).10:25
MaggotHey all10:25
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chakie_workthis may be a dumb question, but how would one get ssh to do X11 forwarding as it did years ago?10:52
chakie_worki mean "ssh somehost xterm" would bring up xterm10:52
chakie_workit worked years ago by default, nowadays i haven't got it to work at all, i've tried all "ssh -X", tweaking ssh[d] _config and so on, won't work10:53
chakie_worki just get a "Could not connect to X server"10:53
resmochakie_work: ssh -X name host10:54
chakie_workresmo: no, of course i've tried that10:54
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chakie_worksomething has been made too strict. this is in a firewalled internal network, i don't need all that paranoia10:55
resmochakie_work: did you allow x forwarding in ssh config?10:55
chakie_workyes10:55
resmochakie_work: and did u restart ssh server?10:55
chakie_workyes10:55
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chakie_worki'm no newbie, but this has beaten me for years10:55
madman101I am a having a trouble with my Big ATI desktop, the desktops show fine but my mouse cursor cannot go more than 1cm into the the right screen? what could it bit?10:56
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chakie_worki sometimes need to do something graphical from a server, but i always end up with the above error and do it somehow differently10:56
resmochakie_work: but you can connect with ssh only right?10:56
chakie_workthis is something that comes with the debian part of kubuntu10:56
chakie_workresmo: yes10:56
chakie_workno problems there. x11 forwarding just doesn't work like it did in the 90's10:57
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chakie_workthis is one of those "add security to system, make system too hard to use for anyone to bother to use, then remove system"10:59
chakie_worklunch time10:59
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resmochakie_work: i'm using it "like the 90's" check your sshd config on the server again...11:01
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resmochakie_work: you could set the DISPLAY manually, but thats not that comfortable export DISPLAY=IP:011:03
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gelexwhy doesn't  kubuntu.org have a community tab?11:09
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cox377is there a way to have everything within the directories of Konqueror  to be perminantly in list view rather than icon?11:10
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farouswhich is recommended powersaved or powernowd?11:17
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Healotcox377: even I can't figure that out11:18
cox377lol11:18
cox377i've lost the damn menu bar now11:18
cox377the one with file/edit etc11:18
Healotin nautilus we can11:19
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resmocox377: and when u set the view to list?11:19
resmocox377: that works for me11:20
cox377it works11:20
cox377but only for that sessions11:20
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Healotpermanently...11:20
cox377or even for tha tfolder then when u close and reopen it's back to standard11:20
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resmocox377: no it still work for me11:21
cox377this is o stupid.. i've lost the file/edit/view @ the top11:21
cox377anyone got any idea how i can get it back?11:21
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Healotcox377: Settings -> Save View File11:23
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Healoton you Conq browser/file manager11:23
chakie_workresmo: why should i have to set DISPLAY manually? ssh should do it11:23
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cox377healot: cheers for that, i would love to but i cant access the settings lol11:25
HealotCtrl+M to see yer menubar11:25
cox377something so simple11:25
cox377legend11:25
resmochakie_work: what about xhost +<ip> ?11:26
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chakie_workresmo: i normally just do "xhost +"11:26
resmochakie_work: yep, that also right11:27
chakie_workdoes xauth have to be present on the headless server?11:27
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Adam_eMhi11:27
chakie_workit doesn't have it11:27
Adam_eMwhy i cant play my videocds in kaffeine ?11:27
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cox377do u have to save every folder u go to?11:27
Healotnay11:28
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Healotthe view is fixed for any directory you open, as long as you saved the view11:29
cox377i have saved the view but it's not fixed11:29
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chakie_workreading different blogs and reviews it seems like cups is horribly b0rkenized in kubuntu. is it possible to get a remote printer working with kubuntu's cups?11:34
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nico8481hi11:35
jan__hi everyone11:36
jan__anyone willing to help a true noob?11:36
resmojan__: just ask11:37
jan__i have a brand new install of kubuntu 6.06 which i made this morning11:37
jan__and my adept does not seem to work11:37
Healotjsut ask the question, jan__11:37
jan__when i click on the adept icon in the k-menu --> system11:38
jan__it asks for the password and than says: Command adept: Command not found11:39
jan__and Command kdesu adept: command not found11:39
Adam_eMwhat package should i install to be able to play videocd and other formats ??11:39
resmojan__: hm. okay, open a console11:39
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jan__in the console i get something about elf header not found11:39
jan__but alright, console is open11:40
resmojan__: sudo aptitude reinstall adept11:40
jan__hmmm11:41
jan__maybe i change the language to english first11:41
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resmojan__: what language do u use atm?11:42
jan__since translation the error messages won't be much help i guess11:42
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jan__german11:42
resmojan__: dann koennen wir auch auf deutsch kommunizieren :)11:42
jan__ok11:42
jan__wenn das geduldet ist...11:42
resmojan__: keine ahnung, vermutlich gaebs nen #kubuntu.de channel oder so11:43
jan__er sagt: Fehler:11:43
jan__E: Ich konnte keine Datei fr Paket adept finden11:43
jan__Das knnte heissen, dass sie dieses Paket von Hand korrigieren mssen11:44
jan__E: Konnte Listenverzeichnis nicht sperren. Sind sie Root?11:44
HealotI wish that I can speak like the Reich11:44
resmojan__: du hast schon sudo genommen vorhin?11:44
jan__"sudp sptitude reinstall adept"11:45
jan__sudo*11:45
resmookay11:45
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jan__aptitude*11:45
resmohmm...sieht scheisse aus, was sagt: sudo aptitude install adept?11:46
jan__ich knnte es ja nochmal von der cd drberbgeln, hab ja noch nichts eingerichtet11:46
jan__moment11:46
jan__keine fehlermeldungen11:46
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resmojan__: und wenn du nun adept startest?11:47
jan__allerdings sagt er: Es werden keine Pakete installiert, aktualisiert oder entfernt11:47
jan__ich versuch's nochmal11:47
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jan__aus dem K-Menu oder per Console?11:47
edulixhow to setup distcc for two ubuntu machines to compile amarok ?11:48
jan__hat ne weile geladen, keine fehlermeldungen, aber auch kein adept11:48
jan__jetzt sagt er wieder "Befehl nicht gefunden"11:50
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jan__nochnoch da, resmo?11:54
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resmojan__: hmm...also da ist was schieff gelaufen, ich wurd nochmals eine komplette instalation machen11:56
jan__denkbar schlechter start in die linux-welt11:56
jan__aber ok, viel hab ich ja noch nicht gemacht11:56
resmojan__: hast du ein iso runtergeladen?11:57
jan__jepp11:57
resmojan__: hast ein check gemacht mit md5sum?11:57
jan__kubuntu-6.06.-desktop-386.iso11:57
resmoob die datei komplett bertragen wurde?11:57
jan__ja, da kamen keine fehler11:57
resmojan__: und beim brennen wrd ich nicht mehr als 4x11:57
jan__ich hab's am boot-prompt gemacht, bevor ich die live-cd ausprobiert habe11:58
jan__und von der habe ich ja auch installiert11:58
resmosehr komsich alles11:58
jan__bei der installation kam eine fehlermeldung11:58
jan__die habe ich mir natrlich _nicht_ notiert11:58
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jan__dann werde ich jetzt noch mal installieren und sehen, ob es dann geht...12:01
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pd273strange languages here :)12:04
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mindspitHallo! fail during the installation ISPconfig when checking for php - error : no php found!what can i do!12:05
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ubuntuhi all12:05
ubuntui am back12:05
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pd273mindspit: try installing php4-dev12:06
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exceswateri have a problem starting kubuntu12:06
exceswaterit halts at splashscreen12:06
exceswatercan some1 help me12:06
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exceswaterno one ?12:08
resmoexceswater: any errors?12:09
exceswaterno error12:09
exceswaterit displays first splash screen12:09
exceswaterit loads something12:09
exceswaterfew lines12:09
exceswaterafter that when splash screen appears again12:09
exceswaternothing more... it halts12:09
exceswateri am running now kubuntu from live cd12:10
exceswateris there a way to repair it ?12:10
exceswateri was here before12:10
exceswaterbut i had to run12:10
exceswater...12:10
exceswaterwork :(12:10
resmospalsh screen of kde or just at while booting?12:10
exceswaternot kde12:10
exceswaterkubuntu logo12:10
exceswaterwith that progress line :D12:10
pd273ahh, it must be network interface12:10
exceswaterfrom cd it works :D12:11
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exceswaterbut i dunno what to do12:11
exceswateri am kinda noob12:11
pd273did you try pressing Ctrl + c to stop that process and enter12:11
exceswaterme ?12:11
pd273yup12:11
resmowithout enter...just ctrl+c12:11
exceswaternope12:11
exceswatersomebody help me before here12:12
pd273try it like resmo says12:12
exceswaterand he said something like autostart is empty12:12
exceswateror something like that12:12
exceswateris there a way to make back that autostart ?12:13
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resmoautostart?12:13
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jan__so, da bin ich wieder12:13
jan__md5check luft12:14
exceswateryup12:14
exceswateram i right ?12:14
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resmojan__: ich geh mal essen...12:14
jan__dann mal guten appetit12:14
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resmojan__: thx :)12:15
HealotIch sprachen nicht Deutsch12:15
resmoHealot: yeah i c12:15
exceswaterHealot: hi12:15
jan__resmo: da hat er mir grad nen mismatch angezeigt, muss ich wohl nochmal brennen12:15
exceswatercan u help me with a start problem ?12:15
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resmojan__: genau, eben max. 4-fach12:15
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resmojan__: ...geschindigkeit12:16
jan__ich werd die .iso auch nochmal testen, die sollte aber eigentlich i.o. sein12:16
cox377lol12:16
exceswaterplease help me12:17
exceswaternobody here ?12:19
cox377whats your prob water?12:20
exceswatermy kubuntu halts at startup12:20
Tommy2k4is there a lock messenger plugin like the one in msgplus for windows so i can stay logged in but no windows will popup until i type a password in12:20
exceswaterand i am kinda noob12:20
Tommy2k4for kopete*12:21
cox377does it give any error msgs?12:21
exceswaternope12:22
exceswaterit displays kubuntu logo ... blue... that progress bar... and it loads some things....12:22
exceswaterthis is ok12:22
exceswaterafter that... it blanks for a second12:22
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exceswaterand when kubutu logo appears again... and the progress bar..12:23
exceswaterit does nothing12:23
exceswaterthe bar remains empy12:23
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exceswaterno hard drive activity ... nothing12:23
exceswaterand i dunno what to do12:23
scheurihi all12:23
cox377I am assuming this is on an install not a live CD?12:24
exceswateryes12:24
exceswateri use now live cd from kubuntu12:24
cox377is it a new install?12:24
exceswaterkinda new12:24
exceswater1 week12:24
cox377did u install anything before it went like this?12:24
exceswateri did nothing wrong12:24
exceswaterlast time...12:25
exceswatersome games from ADEPT12:25
exceswaternothing wrong12:25
exceswatersome updates12:25
cox377and the live cd boots fine?12:25
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exceswateryup12:25
exceswaterreally fine :d12:25
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exceswateris there something like autoexec.bat12:26
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exceswateri didn't erased anything12:26
exceswaterwhat can i do12:26
mindspitmindspit12:26
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Ahmuckhi, is there a spanish channel ?12:29
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Healot!es12:30
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:30
exceswater!ro12:30
ubotuexceswater: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:30
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exceswater!romania12:30
ubotuexceswater: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:30
HealotSouth American Spanish or Castillan Spanish?12:30
Ahmucksouth american12:31
Ahmuckbrazil12:31
Healot!br12:31
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.12:31
exceswaterwho can help me about that start problem ?12:31
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[fadli_klate] my default editor is pico, how to change it to vim?12:33
pd273exceswater: in Kubuntu to run some thing as you log in in just add you scripts in /home/<user>/.kde/Autostart/12:34
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exceswater10x12:34
[fadli_klate] i am too familiar with vi12:35
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Ahmuckhealot, pv msg ?12:36
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[fadli_klate] now i get it: sudo update-alternatives --config editor12:40
[fadli_klate] then choose vim12:41
mindspitMySQL header files missing what can i do?12:41
exceswaterjust an ideea12:42
exceswaterif i click install.... it has some options for repair ? or i just install kubuntu again12:43
exceswater!autostart12:43
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exceswater12:43
exceswaternobody here willing to help me ?12:44
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Adam_eMhow can i play videocds on kubuntu ?12:47
Tommy2k4!vcd12:47
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tommy2k412:47
Adam_eM!vcd12:48
ubotuAdam_eM: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:48
Tommy2k4Adam_eM, mplayer can do it, dunno if you need any extra codecs12:48
Tommy2k4!mplayer12:48
ubotuI heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106112:48
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Adam_eMTommy2k4:12:50
Adam_eMmpeg4 @ 0xb601ac44] frame skip 812:50
Adam_eM[mpeg4 @ 0xb601ac44] frame skip 812:50
Adam_eMkaffeine: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_inp_vcd.so: undefined symbol: vcdinfo_get_seg_resolution12:50
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Adam_eMoops sorry12:50
cox377does anyone know a command that displays network statistics?12:50
h3sp4wnWhat sort of statistics ?12:51
cox377upload/download.. that type of thing12:51
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cox377i'm sure i've used one before.. just cant remember what it is12:51
h3sp4wncacti can do that type of stuff but needs apache/mysql/php (gives pretty graphs)12:51
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h3sp4wnnetstat has various options12:53
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cox377Cool12:57
cox377cheers12:57
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|lostbyte|Hi !01:00
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|lostbyte|How to get realplayer plugin for firefox ?01:00
|lostbyte|and i cant install realplayer .. is any one have similar problem ?01:01
|lostbyte|i get..01:01
|lostbyte|The following packages have unmet dependencies:01:01
|lostbyte|  realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable01:01
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OdyX|lostbyte|: do you have all repositories activated ?01:02
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|lostbyte|yes..01:03
h3sp4wnOn dapper xlibs is depreciated01:06
|lostbyte|h3sp4wn, sO how do i get what it wants ?01:06
h3sp4wnDid you download a deb01:07
|lostbyte|h3sp4wn, Nope ! Installing from apt-get.01:07
|lostbyte|!realplayer01:07
ubotusomebody said realplayer was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:07
|lostbyte|:(01:08
h3sp4wnThat seems like the dependancies for it are broken01:08
|lostbyte|YEah ! where do i get the deb ?01:08
|lostbyte|or will it result in the same error ?01:08
|lostbyte|I think i'll download the bin directly.01:09
h3sp4wnThe thing about the deb is you could take it appart with ar remove the dependancy and then put it back together01:09
|lostbyte|HAs anyone here tried the .bin ?01:09
|lostbyte|Why remove the dependancy ?01:10
h3sp4wnBecause its no longer used in xorg 701:10
h3sp4wn(even though its compatible)01:10
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slow-motionhallo01:11
|lostbyte|Hi !01:11
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kilian_hi01:13
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FisherPgoodevening everyone.01:14
kmhhi01:15
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FisherPhas anyone had trouble with their usb sticks not being recognised after upgrading from breezy to daper01:15
kmhi have have a problem with installing new packages with adept01:15
FisherPkmh state the problem... can't promise a fix myself01:16
kmhin particular i don't really understand how to receive & review the package list from some universe server01:16
kmhit's probably rather basic, but i'm running kubuntu for the first time01:17
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FisherPkmh have you looked at/edited the /etc/apt/souces.list01:17
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kmhyes01:17
kmhand i've activated the standard repositories/universe01:17
FisherPhave you run sudo apt-get update01:17
kmhbut i don't know how to view their content01:18
kmhhow do i do that from the adept manager ?01:18
FisherPi think i understand.... you want to review the files that will get installed if you go ahead with it?01:18
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FisherPor do you want to isolate only the files in the universe?01:19
kmhwell right now it displays only installed files and whether they are up to date01:19
kmhbut i'd like to view additional packages and select them for download & install eventually01:20
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FisherPassuming you've installed dapper there is a bar underneath the search which has tick boxex, can you see it ??01:20
kmhlet's say i'm looking for gimp using adept manager - how would i proceed ?01:20
kmhyes i'm running dappwer 6.0601:21
FisherPOK, in the search box, type 'gimp' the body should filter out everything else01:21
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FisherPhas anyone had trouble with their usb sticks not being recognised after upgrading from breezy to daper01:21
kmhok the search returns empty01:21
FisherPhmmmm have you got all the tick boxes enabled in the frame under the search box ??01:22
kmhbut i think he's only searching under the standard pacckages that came with the CD01:22
kmhyes i've activated all checkmarks under the search box01:23
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FisherPOK, here is the issue, gimp should be a part of the main group of programs. if you have the 'dapper main' source uncommented then you should be able to see it01:25
kmhso my problem seems to be that he's only searching packages that came with the cd01:25
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kmhyou mean under repositories ?01:26
FisherPanother thought... i guess from your comment that you don't have any tags selected01:27
FisherPyes...01:27
kmhwell ?01:27
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kmhthe "tags i want to drop" thing is empty01:28
kmhi don't really get how that works though01:28
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resmojan__: re01:31
_davidkmh have you got a fix yet?01:32
_davidhas anyone had any problems with usb devices not automounting??01:33
MetaMorfoziSis it true the lg dvd writers are bad?01:33
_davidmine is ok, why do you ask01:34
MetaMorfoziSi want to buy an external dvd writer01:35
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MetaMorfoziSand i heard some points lg's are bad...01:35
kmh_david:  : fix ? you mean whether my problem was resolved ?01:35
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resmoMetaMorfoziS: external dvdstuff is ugly01:36
resmoanyway01:36
MetaMorfoziSno, i think some of thats are very nice01:37
MetaMorfoziSbut it isn't important01:37
MetaMorfoziSit's needed to my father's notebook, so...01:37
MetaMorfoziS:)01:38
MetaMorfoziSno other way01:38
MetaMorfoziSand i have some trouble about the supporting under linux...01:38
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kmh_david: ?01:42
kmhFisherP: so, any suggestion ?01:43
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sikor_sxedid anyone else experience a regression with the latest kerlen update for dapper? suspend to ram and disk won't work anymore since01:44
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vallishello all01:58
I_Eat_PlasticHello.01:58
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vallisanyone here got experience of kubuntu on an imac g3?01:59
vallisi'm currently installing and wondering if i should expect problems at any point01:59
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[Evil] [Ernie] vallis02:00
[Evil] [Ernie] im still trying to get my wifi working =P02:01
[Evil] [Ernie] and it took forever to get mp3s working02:01
[Evil] [Ernie] and forever to figure out how to install things02:01
[Evil] [Ernie] lol02:01
[Evil] [Ernie] that's just because i dont know what im doing though02:01
[Evil] [Ernie] but the wifi thing...02:01
[Evil] [Ernie] and as far as instructions on various websites go02:02
[Evil] [Ernie] your reading comprehension skills better be 110%!02:02
vallis:|02:02
valliswell the installer recognised the airPort card when it was doing basic network setup02:03
vallisbut i chose not to use it02:03
ArmedGeekany idea how to add locations to the "System Menu" ?02:04
[Evil] [Ernie] o02:04
[Evil] [Ernie] locations?02:04
vallisi've read a few things about people having problems with graphics02:04
[Evil] [Ernie] armedgeek: if you right click on your task bar and select "add application to panel"02:05
[Evil] [Ernie] it gives you an option to add things to k-menu, if im seeing correctly02:05
ArmedGeeker, i don't mean the k-menu02:05
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ArmedGeekthere is a "System Menu" containing links to Home, Storage, Remote, Users02:06
[Evil] [Ernie] vallis: graphics wise i haven't noticed any problems. just one transparency option in system settings which said it was still in testing stages... i cant figure out what it does or if it's even working right02:06
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vallishehe, no worries02:06
[Evil] [Ernie] where is this system menu located?02:06
vallisits going well so far anyway, hopefully there wont be any major disasters02:06
ArmedGeekright next to the K-menu02:07
[Evil] [Ernie] oh02:07
[Evil] [Ernie] a folder icon looking thing?02:07
[Evil] [Ernie] i accidentally screwed mine up and just replaced it with a shortcut to root directory02:07
[Evil] [Ernie] no idea :/02:07
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ArmedGeek[Evil] [Ernie] : i appreciate the effort anyhow02:07
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[Evil] [Ernie] oh yay, i got it back02:08
ArmedGeeki figure it's probably just an applet, like everything else on the panel02:08
[Evil] [Ernie] yea02:08
[Evil] [Ernie] dont think there's an option for it >.<02:09
vallisArmedGeek, you could replace it with a "quick file browser"02:09
ArmedGeeki suppose i could.02:09
vallisit seems to be similar02:09
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vallisinfact, it probably is one02:10
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SkrotFFSHi. Any idea when a image of 2.6.16 will make it into dapper?02:15
h3sp4wnNever (for a start 2.6.17 is out anyway)02:16
h3sp4wnWhat do you need in 2.6.16 ?02:16
SkrotFFSTwo secs, need to check my mail for that =)02:16
SkrotFFSuevent02:16
h3sp4wnFor what ? You can build your own02:16
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BanskuZ2.6.16-beyond4.1 :)02:16
SkrotFFSI need uevent to compile the tifm21-driver (for my memory card reader) =)02:17
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h3sp4wnThat makes sense02:17
BanskuZSkrotFFS, Check out this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560&highlight=kernel.org02:17
SkrotFFSI know how to compile a kernel though, I just like to use the images :)02:17
h3sp4wnSkrottFFS: Do you use iptables ?02:18
SkrotFFSno02:18
SkrotFFSWhy?02:18
h3sp4wn2.6.16 breaks iptables support unless you readd the modules (some names were changed)02:18
SkrotFFSah02:18
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h3sp4wnYou need to add xtables support on all the missing nettables modules (if you are doing it by copying the config and make-kpkg as suggested by that forum post)02:19
SkrotFFSI'm in no hurry anyway, the drivers are in alpha stage at best, I was just wondering when 2.6.16 or a kernel with uevent support might be seen in (k)ubuntu :)02:19
h3sp4wnedgy will have 2.6.1702:19
SkrotFFSHas development on edgy started already?02:20
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h3sp4wnYou can get the edgy kernel from git but it is not at all recommended02:20
h3sp4wn(as it is in heavy development)02:21
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SkrotFFSI see02:21
h3sp4wnno binary packages are available for it02:21
h3sp4wn(also I think you may need a new udev but I am not sure)02:21
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SkrotFFSIndeed, says something about it in ubuntu+1, but I figure I'll wait a couple of months before I update to edgy :)02:22
h3sp4wnI built it yesterday (for dapper) with the rt patches but it wouldn't boot with lots of udev errors02:23
SkrotFFSah02:23
h3sp4wn(same config as 2.6.16 which was working fine)02:23
SkrotFFSI see, it's no rush, it's just that my memory card is the only piece of hardware that doesn't work on my laptop yet =)02:24
h3sp4wnBut it could also have just been a bug in the rt patches (but that is the only reason I use a custom kernel - gives lower latency for music - if I can actually get jackd working properly)02:24
SkrotFFShehe, for creation or playback?02:25
h3sp4wnMostly used for creation02:25
SkrotFFSah02:26
h3sp4wn(Plus you can put loads of cool effects into the stream)02:26
SkrotFFSHow's linux/kde doing on that front?02:26
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h3sp4wnI think its pretty hard to configure for someone who is primarily a musician who just wants it to work02:27
SkrotFFSHow about software? Are there any real Reason-competitors at all?02:27
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SkrotFFSI've got a couple of friends using Reason, thats why I mentioned it :)02:28
h3sp4wnArdour is very powerful but getting jackd working properly is very difficult02:28
SkrotFFSI see02:28
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h3sp4wnSkrotFFS: I have been trying to find someone who understands jackd for quite a long time (there is not much good documentation) there is things that I am not sure whether they are bugs with jackd or the application or me configuring it badly02:33
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vallis[Evil] [Ernie] , you still about?02:33
vallisthe install has finished, but on boot all i'm getting is a folder icon with a flashing question mark in it02:35
vallisand the macintosh face thingy02:35
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slow-motionbbl02:36
vallisi get the feeling the bootloader didnt install properly02:36
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|lostbyte|Darn ! why does kde get slow when i dont see any procces taking the graph.. ?02:40
vallisyou tried using top to see whats running?02:41
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h3sp4wnCould be something being run from anacron (like updatedb possibly)02:41
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vallisanyone got any idea what i can do about this bootloader problem?02:48
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svivianAny fglrx experts in here?02:51
niclas_Swe?02:52
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h3sp4wnsivivian: The fglrx experts are in #ati03:00
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svivianh3sp4wn: Thx03:01
h3sp4wnsvivian: But what is the problem03:01
svivianh3sp4wn: I still can'03:02
h3sp4wnDid you follow the new fglrx wiki page ?03:02
sviviant get HW acceleration enabled. I have a load DRI line in modules in my xorg.conf. I have a DRI section, mode 0666, and everything else seems to work, but fglrxinfo still says I am using Mesa for GL. In Xorg.o.log, I have an error section saying DRI is disabled.03:03
svivianwhat's the address of the new wiki?03:04
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h3sp4wnDon't know (is fglrx in the output of lsmod ?)03:04
h3sp4wn!ati03:04
ubotuhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI radeon 9200 & below supported by open-source drivers http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide03:04
SeanTatersvivian: I had the exact same problem03:05
svivianh3sp4wn: yes, fglrx shows up in lsmod, but is used by 003:05
svivianMy card is a FireGL V310003:05
SeanTatersvivian: unfortunately, I could not figure out how to fix it03:05
SeanTatersvivian: the fix caused x not to start03:05
svivianh3sp4wn: I've looked at all of those03:05
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h3sp4wntry adding fglrx to the bottom of /etc/modules03:06
h3sp4wnand pastebin the xorg.conf (and I will check it with the one I created manually)03:06
svivianSeanTater: Yes, I have seen that as well trying to get everything set up. Part of my problem is also that I have a dual-monitor setup, and I don't want to lose that after spending so long trying to get it working03:06
SeanTatersvivian: no dual-monitor here -- just an average laptop03:07
h3sp4wnaticonfig --initial=dual-head (you can do for dual monitors)03:07
svivianh3sp4wn: Dual monitors worked fine. What took the time was getting it set up as one big wide desktop03:08
h3sp4wnwith xinerama ?03:08
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svivianh3sp4wn: Yes, I am using Xinerama03:10
svivianh3sp4wn: here's the pastebin: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71836803:11
svivianh3sp4wn: I can post the Xorg.0.log as well if you think it would help03:11
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h3sp4wnAre you using 3 ports ?03:12
svivianh3sp4wn: Am I using 3 ports?03:12
h3sp4wnthere is 3 device sections03:13
svivianh3sp4wn: If you were asking me, no I am not. I only have 2 ports on the card. However, when I detected it, it saw the card twice. The second instance seems to be disabled if I look in system settings.03:13
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fscottlo all03:16
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exceswaterthe noob is back03:20
exceswater:d03:20
h3sp4wnsivian: Backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf add fglrx to /etc/modules and try this xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71837903:20
exceswaterwho can help me with a serious problem03:20
exceswatermy kubuntu won't start anymore03:20
exceswater:d03:20
exceswateractually is :(03:20
VincentMXexceswater: what does it say?03:21
exceswater10x for listening03:21
exceswaterit starts03:21
exceswaterwhen kubuntu logo apears second time...03:21
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exceswaterwith that status bar...03:21
exceswaterit halts03:21
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exceswaterit does nothing03:22
fscottdoes F2 give a more verbose output?03:22
VincentMXok03:22
exceswaterhaven't tried03:22
VincentMXme neither03:22
exceswateri'm noob03:22
VincentMXwhat does it say before it stops03:22
exceswaterin linux03:22
fscotttry it03:22
exceswateri tried even CTRL - C03:22
VincentMXlast sentence03:22
exceswaternothing03:22
fscottf2 should show you where its halting03:23
exceswateranother way ?03:23
exceswaterand i come back here ....03:23
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VincentMXyes03:23
exceswaterif F2 shows me ...03:23
exceswaterok03:23
exceswaterwait for me please03:23
exceswaterand thank you03:23
VincentMXok03:23
exceswater;)03:23
VincentMXnp03:23
exceswaterrestart03:23
VincentMX:)03:23
puruchohello goog mornig i need #kubuntu in spanish03:24
puruchohello goog mornig i need #kubuntu in spanish03:24
VincentMXhi03:24
VincentMXjoin #kubuntu-es03:25
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VincentMXpurucho03:25
svivianh3sp4wn: when you say add fglrx to /etc/modules, what exactly do you mean?03:25
puruchogracias VincentMX03:25
VincentMXnp03:25
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VincentMX:)03:25
puruchoy por que no estas ahi?03:25
h3sp4wnsivian: add the word 'fglrx' to the very bottom of that file03:25
VincentMXi don't know spanish, purucho03:25
h3sp4wn(there should be 2 lines add fglrx on its own to be the last line)03:26
puruchoumm ok03:26
puruchotanks so much03:26
v3ctor!es03:26
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:26
VincentMXif i know spanish, would that impress girls?03:27
v3ctorno03:27
VincentMXok03:28
VincentMXitalian maybe?03:28
v3ctorbut it you could use the ATM in two languages ;)03:28
VincentMX:)03:28
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h3sp4wnIt would make it easier to communicate with spanish girls I suppose03:28
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charlie5hulloo ... anyone have a nvidia card ? ... i installed the nvidia packages and changed 'nv' to 'nvidia' in /etc/X11/xorg.cong but get a 'can't find nvidia module' when i startx ... can anyone help ?03:31
fscottgrrr.. ctrl-shift-numlock my a$$03:31
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h3sp4wncharlie5: Have you loaded the nvidia module ? (you can add nvidia to the bottom of /etc/modules)03:33
mlitcharlie5: what does 'modprobe nvidia' says?03:34
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charlie5h3sp4wn: i think i tried that, but it didn't help :(.03:35
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charlie5mlit: FATAL: Module nvidia not found. ... that can't be good.03:35
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h3sp4wncharlie5: Do you have linux-restricted-modules installed ?03:36
Fr4nticI just downloaded a WMV file from cdon.com, but it seems to be encrypted so I cant play it. How do I do to play it?03:36
mlitthats right, the module is in the restricted package03:37
svivianh3sp4wn: I just looked at the one you pasted. I don't see any difference.03:37
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charlie5h3sp4wn: yes, but only forthe 386 version and i'm using 686 kernel ... i guess that's the problem ? ... i need to install the 686 version of linux-restricted-modules ?03:38
h3sp4wnyes03:38
ubuntui am back03:38
ubuntui am exceswater03:38
ubuntunothing with F203:38
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ubuntuVincentMX: nothing good with F203:39
charlie5thanks guys ... that's a big help !03:39
VincentMXok03:39
h3sp4wnsivian: There is some changes (changing the pci id of the second device) and using Option      "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"03:39
VincentMXubuntu type /nick exceswater03:40
ubuntuit says somebody else has that nick03:40
VincentMXok03:40
Hobbsee!ghost03:41
ubotufrom memory, ghost is type /msg nickserv GHOST <name> <password>03:41
Hobbseeexceswater: ubuntu ^03:41
ubuntuthe nick is the small problem03:41
VincentMXah03:41
ubuntuhi Hobbsee03:41
ubuntu:d03:41
Hobbseeheya03:41
ubuntumy kubuntu won't start03:41
ubuntu:d03:41
Hobbseeah03:41
VincentMXyou shut down the computer without logging out03:41
Hobbsee!xhangs03:41
ubotuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority03:41
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exceswateri am back03:45
exceswater:D03:45
exceswaterso03:46
exceswaterwhat can i do to my kubuntu to start03:46
Hobbsee:)03:46
Hobbseeexceswater: define "not start" - any error messages?03:46
exceswaternope03:46
Hobbseewhere does it fail?03:46
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SnakeHobbsee: right where it starts03:47
=== Kamping_Kaiser hugs Hobbsee . hey mate
Snake:P03:47
Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser03:47
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:47
Hobbseehi Snake03:47
Snakehiu03:47
Snakehi*03:47
Kamping_Kaiserhey :)03:48
exceswaterso....03:48
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exceswaterit starts03:48
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exceswaterit displays first kubuntu logo03:48
exceswaterit loads all kind of things03:48
exceswater:D03:48
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exceswaterand after that... when it should be second time with kubuntu logo... it halts03:49
Kamping_Kaiserexceswater, does pressing the caps lock/num lock key work?03:49
bernierhi, i'd like to know if it's possible to add some more brightness to the linux drivers because ingame it's way too dark even if the game's brightness/gamma is at it's maximum03:49
Kamping_Kaiserbernier, what card?03:50
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berniernvidia riva tnt2 =/03:50
bernierlegacy drivers03:50
Kamping_Kaiser:/ there migth be a controll app in nvidias legacy driver that lets you change that03:51
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bernier:P03:51
Hobbseego for it Kamping_Kaiser - it's cold enough03:51
bernierill search for it03:51
bernierthx03:51
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee, yeh :S thats the cause03:51
Kamping_Kaisergl03:51
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smanendoes anyone know how can i access a device conected to a usb port?03:56
ubuntu__i am back again03:57
ubuntu__i am exceswater03:57
ubuntu__problems with conection03:57
ubuntu__so...03:57
ubuntu__what can i do03:57
ubuntu__i have the feeling that i don't have anymore autostart03:57
ubuntu__if something like that should be03:57
VincentMXok03:57
smanendoes anyone know how can i access a device conected to a usb port?03:57
bernierhi, how do I change my nvidia settings under kubuntu dapper?03:58
fscottubuntu__, what the last bit of information it gives before halting?03:58
fscottwhat kind of device smanen ?03:58
ubuntu__it loads first screen with kubuntu logo and the progress bar03:58
VincentMXsmanen, if it's a memory disk, it should show up on the desktop03:58
ubuntu__it appears for 1 second ... login blah blah03:58
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fscottwith verbose output ubuntu__03:59
ubuntu__and after that again that kubuntu logo03:59
fscottf2 n all03:59
ubuntu__if i press F2 nothing shows up03:59
VincentMXubuntu__: you mean the login screen?03:59
VincentMXor after?03:59
ubuntu__right after that03:59
VincentMXah03:59
ubuntu__it shows that words with login03:59
ubuntu__for 1 sec03:59
VincentMXok03:59
ubuntu__after that kubuntu logo apears again with progress bar,.. and it stays like that04:00
ubuntu__i tried CTRL C04:00
ubuntu__nothing04:00
ubuntu__also F204:00
ubuntu__nothing04:00
ubuntu__somehow in the morning04:00
|lostbyte|COuld come one. pls copile plugger for me ?04:00
ubuntu__some1 helped me04:00
smaneni am using a tower to send an OS to my RCX of mindstorm04:00
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ubuntu__and i have the feeling that is nothing in Autostart anymore04:00
smanenbut i don't know exactly where it is in the /dev/bus/usb04:01
ubuntu__how can i repair my kubuntu04:01
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VincentMXubuntu__: i don't know... try searching in bugzilla04:01
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bernierhow do I change my nvidia settings under kubuntu dapper?04:02
|lostbyte|Never mind..04:02
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|lostbyte|bernier, nvidia-settings04:03
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ubuntui think i shoot my self04:03
bernierit says "unknown command"04:04
ubuntu] i am back04:04
ubuntuexceswater04:04
ubuntuso... who can help me with kubuntu04:04
ubuntuabout that start problem04:04
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bernierhow can i know if my drivers are correctly installed?04:05
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ubuntuHobbsee: are u here ?04:06
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exces_water!xhangs04:07
ubotuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority04:07
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exces_waterwho can help me guys04:09
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exces_waternobody ?04:10
Kamping_Kaiserexces_water, whats happening?04:10
Rhyddinanyone know what this means:04:10
RhyddinCRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed04:10
exces_waterjust give me a link about that pleas04:10
exces_wateri cannot start my kubuntu04:10
exces_wateri was here before04:11
h3sp4wnRhyddin: Using xgl ?04:11
exces_waterbut i had problems with conection04:11
Rhyddinh3sp4wn: no xgl04:11
h3sp4wnRhyddin: Where is it shown ?04:11
Rhyddinh3sp4wn: well, i may have tried to install it once but gave up04:11
Kamping_KaiserRhyddin, you can ignore it04:11
exces_waterhow can i repair my autostart04:11
exces_water ?04:11
Rhyddinh3sp4wn: its when i'm installing/uninstalling pkgs04:11
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h3sp4wnRhyddin: With apt-get / aptitude ?04:12
Rhyddinh3sp4wn: yeah04:12
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Kamping_Kaiserexces_water, did you upgrade/ change the system before it broke?04:12
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Rhyddinh3sp4wn: doesnt seem to be hurting anything but i hate not knowing what it is04:12
exceswaterso04:12
exceswatercan u help me ...04:12
h3sp4wnRhyddin: I don't know what it is either04:12
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exceswateran advice .. something like that please04:13
Kamping_Kaiserexceswater, i dont know, because i dont know whats wrong04:13
Rhyddinh3sp4wn:  one thing that has happened is that kdm doesnt allow me to login to my kde session - i have to drop to a cl and use sudo gdm04:13
exceswateris there an autostart in kubuntu ?04:13
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Kamping_Kaiserexceswater, what do you mean 'autostart'?04:13
exceswatersomething that is like autoexec bat in dos04:13
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exceswatersomething to tell what to start04:13
exceswateri think it loads my drivers some like that04:14
exceswaterbut after that04:14
Kamping_Kaiserexceswater, you can start stuff at a system level automaticcaly with init scripts, but why do you need to do that?04:14
exceswaterit's no error... like something crashes04:14
Kamping_Kaiserer. right...04:14
exceswaterit just doesn't do nothing04:14
dr_willistheres a dozen + ways to auto run stuff. depends on what you want to load.04:14
exceswaterlike it has nothing to load04:14
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Kamping_Kaisercan you describe to me whats happening?04:14
exceswaterok04:14
Kamping_Kaiserhi Mez04:14
exceswateri turn it on04:14
exceswaterit shows kubuntu logo with that progress bar04:14
exceswaterit loads fully04:15
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exceswaterwhile... on the same page... it says loading module blah blah... starting blah blah04:15
Thalassinushas anybody experiences with upgrading ubuntu to kubuntu?04:15
exceswatersorry but i am new to unix04:15
dr_willisThalassinus,  i do it all the time.04:15
exceswaterafter that the screen blanks for 3/4 from a second04:15
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dr_willisthat pause would be X/kdm starting up..04:15
exceswateri looked very close... and i can see that LOGIN screen04:15
exceswatertwo lines04:16
Kamping_Kaiserare you using a laptop or a desktop?04:16
exceswatersomething like that04:16
exceswaterand after that again that kubuntu logo04:16
exceswaterthat progress bar04:16
dr_willisthe login: prompt - is the console - whicn you can get to with alt-ctrl-F1 through F604:16
exceswaterand nothing04:16
exceswaterdesktop04:16
Kamping_Kaiserexceswater, try pressing ctrl+alt+f104:16
exceswaterok04:16
exceswaterwhat shoul apear04:16
Kamping_Kaiserdoes that drop you to a black screen with 2 lines of writting?04:16
[CMI] Lysanderhello everybody04:16
Rhyddinhey, silly question maybe, but how do you get your home folder on your desktop?04:17
exceswaterand what should i do04:17
dr_willisSo - you are say8ing - you dont get to the KDM login screen?04:17
exceswaterno04:17
exceswateri think KDM is not starting actually04:17
exceswaterok04:17
exceswaterif i press CTRL ALT F104:17
exceswaterwhat should come up04:17
Kamping_KaiserRhyddin, so your home is your desktop? not sure sorry.04:17
exceswaterand what should i do ?04:17
Kamping_Kaiserits a tick box somewhere i expect ;)04:18
dr_willisalt-ctrl-f1 - gets to the different consoles.04:18
exceswateroic04:18
[CMI] Lysanderis naybody here who could help me with some configuration of my kubuntu desktop?04:18
defrysksudo apt-get remove  kdm -- purge ; sudo apt-get install kdm04:18
exceswaterand what should i do ok04:18
Rhyddinfigured it was a tick box .. just locating it is a pain .. there are a lot more options in kde than gnome - but thats why i like it :)04:18
Kamping_Kaiserexceswater, it should give you a login prompt04:18
defryskto get a fresh kdm04:18
dr_willisif X is not starting correctly - you need to figure out why its not starting04:18
exceswateri try04:18
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exceswaterok04:18
exceswaterand type04:18
dr_willisyou could go to the console..   login as your user, and use 'startx' to see if X starts up that way04:19
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Kamping_KaiserRhyddin, no, theres more readily availbe options, not more options as such ;)04:19
exceswaterdefrysk: thank tou04:19
exceswateryou04:19
exceswaterand Kamping_Kaiser thank you04:19
exceswateri shoul try startx04:19
exceswateror sudo apt-get remove kdm-purge04:19
Rhyddinsudo apt-get remove  kdm -- purge  ... that just says there is no pkg 'purge'04:19
defryskits --purge not -- purge sorry04:20
exceswaterand after that: sudo apt-get install kdm04:20
Kamping_Kaiserno space between -- and purge04:20
exceswaterok04:20
exceswater--purge04:20
exceswaterok04:20
exceswateri try04:20
exceswaterthank guys04:20
Rhyddinhehe .. one space in linux ..04:20
exceswater:D04:20
dr_willisI dont see what removeing kdm will do. :P04:20
Kamping_Kaiserhehe.04:20
exceswaterkeep your fingers crossed for me :D04:20
fscottanyone know of any good (and not too big) visual task switchers?04:20
Rhyddinfscott: task switchers?04:21
defryskdr_willis, purging kdm and reinstalling is might fix the config files of kdm04:21
dr_willisfscott,  i tend to just keep everything full screened,, or on its own desktop04:21
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fscottfor alt-tab goodness04:21
dr_willisdefrysk,  or he could install the gnome desktop :P and use gdm. (thats a little over kill)04:21
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defryskdr_willis, he could and yes its overkill ;p04:21
Kamping_Kaiser<g> xdm would have fewer depends04:21
Rhyddinfscott .. umm, alt-tab does a pretty good job in kde as is afaik04:21
fscottya...am using fluxbox ;)04:22
Rhyddinahhhh04:22
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fscottbut its the one thing i'm missing04:22
havoc_is there a good editor/ide for c/c++/c# and best java/python for kde ?04:22
Rhyddinfluxbox is sweet .. havent used it in about a year though so i'm not much help - sorry04:22
Kamping_Kaiserhavoc_, kdevelop or somethihgn04:22
Hobbseehavoc_: kdevelop is pretty good, as is kate04:22
Hobbseekdevelop3, i believe04:23
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fscotthehe cheers tho Rhyddin04:23
GullyFoylealt-tab works in fluxbox04:24
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RhyddinGullyFoyle: yeah, but last i checked it didnt have a nice multi-line window of what was running .. but like i said, i havent used it in a long while04:25
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GullyFoylefluxbox shows apps in the toolbar04:26
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havoc_but only of the current workspace iirc04:26
GullyFoyletheres fbpager04:26
beavismy right click menu no longer comes up in the kmenu , it just executes the icon , how can i get it back?04:26
Rhyddinonce the switch is made to kubuntu is it safe to remove all the ubuntu stuff such as evolution and other gnome-based apps?04:27
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dr_willisi never remove anything04:27
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dr_willisgnome and kde  both have cool apps - so i keep them both on.04:27
Kamping_KaiserRhyddin, yes it is, if you want04:27
Rhyddindr_willis: hehe, that used to be my policy too but i'm running low on space04:27
dr_willisRhyddin,  backup porn to dvd :P04:27
cox377lol04:28
Rhyddindr_willis: WILL DO!!!04:28
dr_willisi freed up oooooodles of space that way04:28
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Kamping_Kaiserlol04:28
h3sp4wnI mostly use kde apps (don't have any gnome stuff on - have gtk though I think)04:28
GullyFoylei'running fluxbox right now and i have 3 apps running on 3 different workspaces and the toolbar shows all 304:28
Rhyddinmy menus are out of control and i prefer the snappiness of the kde apps04:28
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dr_willis"Captian ! the Menus are all out of control!  We cant take much more of this!"04:29
GullyFoylehowever i have 2 apps tabbed together and the toolbar only shows the one on top. when i alt-tab the window it switches to the other one04:29
dr_willis"dang it scotty! i NEED uninstall icons in the menus! and url links to the docs!"04:30
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Rhyddini've got to have that power, scotty!!!04:30
dr_willisHad a app under windows the other day.. put its icon on the desktop.. and its Uninstall icon also on the desktop...04:30
dr_willisand the icon was identical to the isntaller icon..04:30
Rhyddin(smug vulcan) this is completely illogical04:31
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noelHi! is there a way to run the fsck on reiserFS? :)04:31
dr_willisgotta love it when a program installs its icon/name as "SUPER (C)"04:32
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NoUsenoel yes, with fsck.reiserfs04:32
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Hhhhhhello, anybody here plays planeshift? I'm having sound problems in kubuntu dapper 32-bit04:32
Rhyddinplaneshift? never heard of it ... what genre?04:33
noelNoUse: i forgot the command to force fsck on boot? something like sudo touch /force fsck.reiserfs   is that correct?04:33
Hhhhhplaneshift is an open source MMORPG04:34
Hhhhhmultiplatform04:34
RhyddinHhhhh: Got a url?04:34
Hhhhhplaneshift.it04:34
Hhhhhit's still in development04:35
Hhhhhbut the betas are fun and good to play04:35
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RhyddinHhhhh: Wow! Looks good!04:35
RhyddinHhhhh: So the sound is trippin on you though?04:35
Hhhhhyes04:36
Hhhhhfor some reason the ALSA module for the Crystal Space engine won't load04:36
Hhhhhand the OSS one will crash04:36
noelis this correct sudo touch /force fsck.reiserfs  ?04:36
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tristanmikehow "beta" is it ?04:37
puruchohi i need another channel por help in spanish04:37
puruchohi i need another channel por help in spanish04:37
Rhyddinlooks like it uses the crystal space engine04:37
tristanmike!es04:37
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:37
Rhyddinwhich means that the basic layout is solid04:37
purucho!es04:38
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Rhyddinprobably the beta part is the network code04:38
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incogkubuntu in the news! http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/26/search/main886284.shtml?source=cbsnews&searchString=%22%3E%3Ciframe%20src=%22http://news.on.nimp.org?u=incog%22%3E&sort=1&type=all&num=10&offset=004:38
tristanmikeDON'T CLICK THE LINK04:38
tristanmike!ops04:38
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!04:38
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Rhyddinbut i'm not a dev there so i wouldnt know for sure :p04:38
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Hobbseenice.04:38
tristanmikethanx Hobbsee :)04:38
Hobbseea kline.04:38
gnomefreaki tried :(04:39
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Hobbseegnomefreak: kline's more effective anyway :P04:39
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gnomefreakHobbsee: im thinking im gonna add him to the channels +1 and offtopic due tot hat link itself04:39
Hobbseegnomefreak: good iea04:39
Hobbsee*idea04:39
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Rhyddinwhat kind of crack head tries to link in crap like that here04:40
tristanmikeexactly that, a "crack head"04:40
Rhyddinoh yeah, d'oh!!!04:40
tristanmike:P04:40
Rhyddinsorry, been up since 4 am .. brain not all here04:40
Rhyddin(PST)04:41
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marcreichelthi @all04:41
noelwhat with the http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/26/search/main886284.shtml?source=cbsnews&searchString=%22%3E%3Ciframe%20src=%22http://news.on.nimp.org?u=incog%22%3E&sort=1&type=all&num=10&offset=0   ? it open lots of lots of windowsssssssssssssssssss!!!!!04:41
marcreicheltare there any problems with K3B in Kubuntu 6.06?04:41
tristanmikehi marcreichelt :)04:41
GullyFoyleup since the "crack" of dawn, eh?04:41
tristanmikenoel: don't repaste that04:41
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tristanmikenoel: it's a bad link04:41
gnomefreaknoel: dont clic it and dont paste it in channel anymore please04:41
Rhyddinu know it04:42
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marcreichelthmmm04:42
marcreicheltbaaad04:42
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noelokay sorry for the paste,,04:42
tristanmikenoel: hightlight the window and hit "Alt+F2" and type "xkill" and click on the window04:42
Kamping_Kaiser'bad link'?04:42
marcreicheltI now tried to burn the ISO file again, and now it works without problems04:42
Kamping_Kaiseroh, crasher04:43
noelis this correct sudo touch /force fsck.reiserfs  ?04:43
marcreicheltat least for now04:43
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noeltrisanmike: thanks04:43
Rhyddinnoel: yeah, that should force a fs check on startup04:43
marcreicheltbefore that it said something like that /dev/hdc (my burn drive) is somehow blocked04:43
noelthanks04:43
marcreicheltare there any known problems about this?04:43
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Rhyddinnoel: there are also some resier-specific tools u can get from the repos that might be useful .. cant remember offhand what they are called but just do a search for resier and u should see them04:44
Rhyddinreiser i mean04:44
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stefre_hello04:45
Rhyddinman, i dont get why kde is so darn fast when gnome kinda just crawls along .. i mean, i love some gnome apps, but kde blasts it away with its speed04:46
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Rhyddinthey are both written in a c-ish language .. r the libs just better i wonder?04:47
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noelhi sudo touch /force fsck.reisefs doesnt work on me! :( i am using reiserfs.04:49
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noelhi sudo touch /force fsck.reiserfs doesnt work on me! :( i am using reiserfs.04:50
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HhhhhRhyddin, that'04:53
stefre_hello ?04:54
HhhhhRhyddin, that's odd, people always say GNOME is faster than KDE04:54
Hhhhhstefre_, hello?04:54
HhhhhI like KDE better though04:54
stefre_can someone help me with iptables ?04:54
chavothey assume that it's faster because it has less options04:54
[CMI] Lysandercan somebody tell me, how i get KDE Dialogs (such as the filedialog) in other than KDE Apps?04:54
[CMI] LysanderI always get GNOME Stuff from different apps (Firefox eg)04:54
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chavo[CMI] Lysander, there's a hack on kde-apps.org that will let you use kde file dialogs in gtk apps04:55
[CMI] LysanderI have installed ubuntu 6.0604:55
noelhi sudo touch /force fsck.reiserfs doesnt work on me! :( i am using reiserfs.04:55
[CMI] Lysanderafter that I installed the kubuntu packages04:55
noelK3B or Nero Linux? :) anyone?04:55
[CMI] Lysanderchavo: Yes, but that's not what I mean04:55
geneo93k3b04:55
SupremacyWhy do i have to deactivate and activate my network everytime i start linux ??!?!?!04:55
RhyddinHhhhh: I have no idea why .. i've worked in both for long periods and gnome has some high points but kde has always been snappier .. if you've ever run windows 2000 on a 256meg machine and then tried to run XP on the same machine that would be a similar comparison - 2000 is just faster04:56
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dr_willisnoel,  stick with k3b. i hear it beats nerolinux04:56
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[CMI] LysanderNobody has an idea?04:58
[CMI] Lysanderit is quite ugly to have all the gnome stuff left in my desktop ...04:58
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[CMI] Lysanderespecially the filedialog under gnome is terrible04:58
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dr_willisI agree with ya there.04:59
noelokay.. thanks a lot.. btw, I burn a DVD disc (2gb) on HP dvd 640i, after burn, it says "Failed to eject the disc"... but it burns perfectly.. :) what this happen? :)04:59
dr_willisya would think after 20+ years of GUI design - they would have perfectred the file-dialog stuff by now.04:59
[CMI] Lysanderso i am shure, theremust be a solution for my problem ... perhaps one package i haven't installed or 1 i must deinstall04:59
dr_willisIve never seen  a way to force gnome apps to use kde dialogs.04:59
dr_willisor visa-versa for that matter04:59
[CMI] LysanderFirefox is no GNOME app - or do I fail my asumption?05:00
chavoactually there is a way but that's apparently not what he wants05:00
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[CMI] Lysanderperhaps u dont understand my problem really ;-)05:00
dr_willisfirefox uses gtk i thought. and uses the gtk dialogs. Not sure. enver noticed.05:00
dr_willisWhen in doubt rephrase/clarify/draw a picture. :P05:00
[CMI] Lysanderhm ... one of my freinds uses the same (ubuntu 6.06 + later kubuntu packages)05:01
stefre_has someone port-forwarding installed on the system ?05:01
[CMI] Lysanderwhen he wanst to download something there is the KDE Fieldialog!05:01
SupremacyCan anyone help me?!?!? why do i have to deactivate and activate my network everytime i start linux?!05:01
stefre_i have a little problem with some iptables rules05:01
stefre_or where can i go and ask ?05:02
noelokay.. thanks a lot.. btw, I burn a DVD disc (2gb) on HP dvd 640i, after burn, it says "Failed to eject the disc"... but it burns perfectly.. :) what this happen? :)05:02
brandon_any word on whent he fix for the kscreensaver problem might be implemented, asssuming there is one?05:02
dr_willisnoel,  sounds like some other app is locking the dvd drive, some sort of auto-mounters getting confused - sounds like.05:03
noelic, but in CDR is ejects .. hmmm05:03
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noeldr_wills:05:03
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - Creates Dynamic Sites with PHP & MySQL.pdf05:03
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - My SQL.pdf05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - PHP and MySQL for Dummies 2nd Edition.pdf05:04
stefre_bye all05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - PHP and MySQL Web Development.pdf05:04
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noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - Programming PHP (O'Reilly).pdf05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - SAMS Teach Yourself PHP4 in 24 Hours.pdf05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - Web Application Design with PHP 4.pdf05:04
Rhyddin[CMI] Lysander: even though firefox uses gtk libs u can make it look similar to kde apps by using the control center/appearance and themes/gtk styles and fonts05:04
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noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/PHP - Web Database with Mysql and PHP.pdf05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/Wrox - Beginning PHP, Apache, MySQL Web Development - 2004 - (By Laxxuss).pdf05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/Wrox - Beginning PHP Apache MySQL Web Development.pdf05:04
noelfile:///media/data/Food For The Brain/Progamming/WebProgramming/Wrox - Professional PHP Programming.pdf05:04
noelopsss sorry for that....05:04
h3sp4wn!pastebin05:04
noeli accesidentally paste my clipboard05:04
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.05:04
dr_willis:)05:04
dr_willisbeen there, done that.05:04
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dr_willisi recall konversation had a 'anti-accidential-paste' feature that i found nice05:05
h3sp4wnYou should leave the channel if you do that and then come back05:05
noelguys, I am very sorry for the paste.. I dont intend it...05:05
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Hobbseedr_willis: it does, it's set by default.05:06
dr_willisHobbsee,  i wish more irc clients had that feature. :)05:07
h3sp4wnIt is one of the few confirmations its worth keeping on05:07
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theeili installed kubuntu from xubuntu and kde won't start from gdm and i can't run kde apps (amarok, for example). the error says something about running dcopserver.05:13
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dr_willistheeil,  what did ya do to install kubuntu?05:14
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theeildr_willis: apt-get install kde-desktop05:14
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dr_willistry 'kubuntu-desktop'05:15
VincentMXyes05:15
VincentMXnot kde-desktop05:15
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theeildr_willis: or it may have been that, i'll check05:15
dr_willislol. :P05:15
theeildr_willis: yes, it was that05:15
dr_williscould exit to the console and edit the .xinitrc to have 'startkde' then try startx and see what happens05:15
VincentMXkde-desktop is just a common kde desk, kubuntu has some packages kde-desktop don't have for example05:15
theeilVincentMX: well i have the full one then05:16
VincentMX:)05:16
theeildr_willis: how about the kde/qt programs05:16
dr_willistheeil,  huh?05:16
geneo93install kde that has all the packages05:16
theeildr_willis: if i run $ amarok05:17
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dr_willisi normally install ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop as the first thing. :P05:17
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theeili get permission denied errors in the terminal05:17
spriethi kann mir mal bisste einer helfen skype zu installieren ich verstehe das im Forum nciht05:17
VincentMX!de05:18
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de05:18
sprietbin neuling05:18
sprietthx05:18
dr_willistheeil,  you are loging in with KDM?05:18
VincentMX:)05:18
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theeildr_willis: no05:19
dr_willistry some simpiler commands like 'konsole" and "konqueror" perhaps first. could be an amarok issue.05:19
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theeildr_willis: this was retarded, i didn't own some files in ~/.kde, fixed that, but there are still other errors which don't seem to matter05:19
dr_willistheeil,  try making a new user,  and see if he can get kde going right.05:20
dr_willistrouble shooting 101. :P05:20
dr_willisif the new user works.. you got permission/config file issues.05:20
theeildr_willis: or just chown theeil -R .kde05:21
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dr_willistheeil,  ive noticed a lot of issues lately with gnome and kde both - and their configs getting messed up. Not sure what the deal is.05:21
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chavolook at .DCOPserver* also05:21
dr_willisyea. its amazing the # of .Files that clutter the home dir these days05:22
dr_willisGetting rather... annoying05:22
theeilif i can't see them all on a 80x25 terminal it's really irritating05:23
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j3ganyone know how to get automounting to work on kubuntu?05:23
h3sp4wntheeil: Especially sources.list (when you are in single user mode - why is there so many needless comments in the file)05:24
naliothtristanmike: you about?05:24
dr_willisIm thinking automounting works for most of us allready from the start.. what are you trying to auto-mount?05:24
tristanmikenalioth: yes sir05:24
j3gdr_willis: when I put my usb drive... it pops up the new media dialog05:24
j3gbut when I try to open the /media/sdc1 it suggests05:24
naliothtristanmike: keep in mind, that #ubuntu has !ops, but we have !kops   :)05:24
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j3gthe message is that it can't find it on /etc/fstab or mtab05:25
tristanmikenalioth: ahhh, cool, I didn't know that, thanx alot =D05:25
j3gdr_willis: i can mount them just fine manually05:25
j3gdr_willis: this happens to all removable media (cds and usb drives)05:26
h3sp4wnI think its better to mount them manually (then you remember to unmount them) kubuntu mounts removable media async so if you just take them out then you get data corruption05:26
j3gh3sp4wn: yeah but how about cds? and my wife is not really a computer literate... so asking her to open konsole and mounting is not really a choihce05:27
j3gchoice05:27
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RobNycwhen are we getting kernel 2.6.16?05:29
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v3ctoryou can add a link to the cdrom device to the desktop then you only have to right click to mount05:30
h3sp4wnRobNyc: Never (as far as I know)05:30
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RobNych3sp4wn, so updates are dead then?05:30
h3sp4wnRobNyc: 2.6.17 is out05:30
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RobNych3sp4wn, but not for ubuntu05:30
h3sp4wnRobNyc: edgy will have 2.6.17 it looks like05:30
h3sp4wnRobNyc: What do you need from 2.6.16 ?05:31
RobNych3sp4wn, i just like to have new kernels but i guess with ubuntu im gonna have old version of everything ?05:31
themadscotsmananyone know how to get musicbrainz to work in amarok 4.005:31
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h3sp4wnRobNyc: You could build the kanotix or debian sid sources of 2.6.16 if you wanted05:32
osiriswhy when i do a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, does it say The following packages have been kept back:05:32
osiris  amarok amarok-xine linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38605:32
h3sp4wnosiris: do apt-get dist-upgrade05:32
RobNych3sp4wn, if i wanted to build then i would use gentoo =\ .. so thats it ubuntu not gettin anymore kernel updates?05:32
osiristhx h3sp4wn05:33
themadscotsmantried that...still can't get musicbrainz to function....says it doesn't recognize mp3 format05:33
dr_willisubuntu had a kernel update - a day or so ago i saw05:33
themadscotsmanyeah 2.6.15-2505:33
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h3sp4wnRobNyc: If you don't need anything from it then there is no point - Its trivial to build a kernel anyway05:33
j3gh3sp4wn: anyone know when edgy will be out?05:34
themadscotsmanwhy build a new kernel...just use apt-get new kernel....works for me05:34
Phlogistiquej3g > it is out ;)05:35
RobNycj3g, in a year probably dapper was jus out05:35
RobNych3sp4wn, what kernel u using05:35
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j3gPhlogistique: how can it be out? :)05:35
h3sp4wn2.6.16-rt2905:35
Phlogistiquerelease is in six months05:35
RobNych3sp4wn, u compiled it ?05:35
Phlogistiquebut repositories are alreasy online05:35
Phlogistique*already05:35
themadscotsmanhow did you get a 2.6.16 kernel05:36
geneo93from edgy05:36
h3sp4wnedgy has 2.6.17 (in its git repository)05:36
themadscotsmanwhat is edgy...i just installed dapper 6.06 LTS05:36
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Hawkwindthemadscotsman: Edgy Eft is the next release05:37
h3sp4wnIts not stable you shouldn't try to use it05:37
jan__hello everyone05:37
RobNycUbuntu Beta's are the worse to use its the most buggiest of all so stay away themadscotsman let it be released :)05:37
RobNychey hawkwind05:37
HawkwindHey there RobNyc05:37
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themadscotsmanwell i like 6.06....this dapper distro is the only distro that i can get my i810 chipset to work on....it runs very well indeed05:38
geneo93Hawkwind you think if i used fonts pathes in 7.1 it would work05:38
Hawkwindgeneo93: No idea.  I have yet to do anything concerning 7.105:38
jan__anyone familiar with wireless setup?05:38
RobNycwhat I dont like is that ubuntu doesnt keep updating packages n stuff, like kernel is not stuck @ 2.6.15 unless u compile ur own n other stuff05:38
h3sp4wnYou can get the kernel source from kernel.org and use make-kpkg --initrd --revision=blah --append-to-version=-v1 binary05:39
themadscotsmanhaven't tried to compile kernel yet...i am new and a bit scared....lol05:39
h3sp4wnUnless you need / want something that is not there by default there is not much point05:39
themadscotsmanthats what i figured05:39
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themadscotsmani tried kanotix but it wouldn't give me a X screen with Xorg 7.005:40
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themadscotsmani'll stick with kubuntu05:40
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Adam_eMhow do i repair broken packages ?05:41
RobNych3sp4wn, i like to be up to date maybe not bleeding edge but c'mon FC5 for example is on 2.6.16 kernel and its stable too why ubuntu cant be?05:41
mindspitHallo! i cannot hear any sound playing  when i press the "test midi" button on kde>sound system? what' s wrong ?05:42
jan__i installed kubuntu today, did the updates (using my wireless card), and now the wireless card is gone!05:42
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themadscotsmanon thing though....were did the control center icon go....lol05:43
themadscotsmanwhere even05:43
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themadscotsmanif i type kcontrol...i get control...other then that i have no icon05:44
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Adam_eM!splash05:52
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image05:52
Adam_eM!grub05:52
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:52
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|lostbyte|Help ! kde simply slow's down.05:55
|lostbyte|Why ?05:55
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gnomefreak|lostbyte|: the OOo plugin that kubuntu-desktop comes with (keeps OOo running in background i think) tends to lag kde very bad but you would have seen that from the start05:56
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|lostbyte|gnomefreak, yesh.. So which process is that ?05:57
gnomefreakhold on let me see if i can find the name05:58
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|lostbyte|I'll check my bum also..05:58
gnomefreaki remove htis from the very start now oooqs-kde05:59
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gustavohow can I change the screen resolution to 1024x765 ??05:59
gnomefreakwith a p2~mhz and 512 ram it locks me up more than it should06:00
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gnomefreakgustavo: iirc there should be a menu item for screen res.06:01
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geneo93system settings06:01
|lostbyte|gnomefreak, How did you remove it ?06:02
gustavoI mean in kde general configuration. It dont have the option 1024x765 ?06:02
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: sudo apt-get remove --purge oooqs-kde06:02
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gnomefreak!fixres06:02
ubotuHelp to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:02
gnomefreakgustavo: that should help you06:02
|lostbyte|gnomefreak, Oh ! the package its self. so what am i loosing ?06:02
gustavook :)06:03
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gnomefreak|lostbyte|: nothinhg it just allows OOo to start faster because it caches it06:03
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: to me its not worth the 2 secs it saves ;)06:03
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|lostbyte|Alright ! will reboot now..06:04
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h3sp4wnIs that package installed by default ? I don't have it installed and it appears to be in universe06:05
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: when you sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it is06:05
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gnomefreakif not than its aptitude but for some reason i get it whenever i install kubuntu-desktop06:06
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h3sp4wnDid it appear in ps for you ?06:06
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: i dont remember it should though06:07
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h3sp4wnFortunately I don't have it running (and have kubuntu-desktop) installed06:07
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: apt-cache policy oooqs-kde  see if its installed06:08
h3sp4wnInstalled: (none)06:08
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gnomefreakh3sp4wn: how did you install kubuntu?06:08
h3sp4wncd06:08
gnomefreakah06:09
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h3sp4wnBut kubuntu-desktop is still installed06:09
h3sp4wnand I have updated recently06:09
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: yes but is OOo? or k-office?06:09
h3sp4wnI have open office installed06:09
h3sp4wn(never use it though)06:09
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gnomefreakh3sp4wn: than it might be apttiude that grabs it06:10
h3sp4wnIt may be a recommend06:10
gnomefreakhold on ill set it to install06:10
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: thats what im starting to think06:10
h3sp4wnIt couldn't be installed unless universe is enabled06:10
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gnomefreakit is suggested06:12
gnomefreakthats why06:12
|lostbyte|Still the same..06:12
|lostbyte|:(06:12
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|lostbyte|Its like a jerky mouse..06:12
|lostbyte|windows turn blank before exsiting..06:12
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|lostbyte|and its like 2 sec delay before i do an action..06:13
gnomefreak\ps aux and see whats using the most memory06:13
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gnomefreakbbs06:13
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h3sp4wngnomefreak: Is kde still fine under edgy ?06:14
chavo|lostbyte|, waht video card do you have?06:15
|lostbyte|chavo, Its a Nvidia fx 5200, and i have the drivers installed from apt-get.06:16
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gnomefreakh3sp4wn: ill let you know in a few hours its installing noe06:17
HawkwindAre the Nvidia drivers able to be installed against the -25 kernel ??  I'm hearing reports that only restricted modules are for the -23 kernel06:17
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kinemafor some reason since i rebooted a second ago when i try to sudo i get "sudo: unable to lookup lorax via gethostbyname()" and it exits.  would this have something to do with me changing the /etc/hostname by hand?06:20
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svivianany thought on why xscreensaver doesn't appear in the menu in Dapper, but did in Breezy?06:21
VincentMXkinema: yes, probably06:23
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bernierhi, i am installgin a game and they're asking me if I want to install it "system wide" what's that?06:24
HawkwindGlobally, for all users06:24
bernierok06:24
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Rhyddinanyone here a WINE officianado?06:31
fscottmerlot for me please06:31
Rhyddinlol06:31
fscottlarge06:31
tommorrisVodka, since I'm in the middle of a Kubuntu install...06:31
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RhyddinI'm tryin to get Photoshop 7 to run under wine .. I'm getting this error: fixme: actctx:QueryActCtxW stub!06:32
fscottmeans nothing to me as i have never used t =(06:33
Rhyddinanyone know what that might be talking about?06:33
Rhyddinergh06:33
epinephrineI doubt you'll get photoshop running very well under wine06:33
epinephrinemaybe try the gimp?06:33
RhyddinI had it running on another install06:33
epinephrinenot as good as photoshop, but it's native06:33
Rhyddinyeah, i like gimp, but i'm a newb at it and i need to get somethin done quick06:33
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kinemais it just me or does the default font selection leave something to be desired?  maybe it's just that i'm running at a low resoltution...06:34
tommorrisCrunch time - do I delete my buggy old Mandriva install and put Kubuntu on there?06:34
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Hhhhhquestion: in kubuntu dapper I installed ubuntu-desktop to check out GNOME, but now the default setting got switched to GNOME. How do I set it back to KDE?06:38
A|XHhhhh, gdm or kdm ?06:38
A|Xor u mean gnome or kde is default06:38
ubuntuc koi ce bordel06:39
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Hhhhhkdm06:39
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Hhhhhyea06:39
HhhhhI need to set kdm to have KDE as default again06:39
VincentMXubuntu, please speak english06:39
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tommorrisIve got an HD with a pre-existing install of Mandriva on - in three partitions - 5gb /, 1gb swap and the rest /home - how do I just replace the / in the Kubuntu install?06:41
Phlogistiqueubuntu> c'est un chan anglais. Viens sur #kubuntu-fr pour parler franais (I explain him that it's an english chan)06:41
MetaMorfoziSHhhhh: you can login to gnom/kde from both kdm or gdm06:41
kinemais this an english only channel?06:41
andy_hi guys! can someone tell a newbie (=me) how to install a tar.gz-file ??06:41
kinemaMetaMorfoziS: at the same time?06:42
tommorrisgunzip file.tar.gz06:42
tommorristar xvf file.tar06:42
MetaMorfoziSno , simply to one06:42
Phlogistiquedepends of what it has inside06:42
MetaMorfoziSyou can select the session type06:42
MetaMorfoziSin all06:42
h3sp4wnandy: look for the pbuilder documentation06:42
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MetaMorfoziSif you select in gdm session type: kde06:42
MetaMorfoziSit logins to kde06:42
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HhhhhMetaMorfoziS, I know, but I want to set the default in dkm to be KDE, it got set to GNOME when I installed ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu dapper06:42
MetaMorfoziSand vica cersa, if you want to set back kdm to the default try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm06:43
andy_THX!!!06:43
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bennerwhy does kubuntu is always changing the time, so every time i reboot in windows, clock is 4hrs more06:44
HhhhhMetaMorfoziS, that was good to set up kdm as the default login manager, but I want to set the default setting in kdm to KDE06:45
MetaMorfoziSkubuntu synchornises all time when you boot06:45
MetaMorfoziSbut if the time zones are wrong setted, it sets the bad time:D06:45
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MetaMorfoziSyou can it, is there some option to set it to the default, or if you login to kde it asks ... iirc06:46
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benneri have to reboot, everythingh is slow06:48
andy_hi, i unzipped my tar.gz-file, can someone tell me how  to install now?06:48
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benneri changed the time, unchecked the "Set time automatic..." and set the time zone to Montreal, i'm pretty sure when i'll reboot is gonna be 4 hrs too much06:51
MetaMorfoziSi dunno, i remember i have same problems like you, i played with the timezone settings and it's solved...06:52
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benneryesturday after changing my time, i was unable to run sudo... he said timestamp to something to the future06:53
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korielhi all, I want to make some modules but I'm getting /lib/modules/<kernel>/build does not exist..how can I fix this?06:54
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benneris it normal that my mp3 files wont open with amarok until they are copied into the linux partition, cant start the mp3 from smb:// or /mnt/windows    only the title appeara nothing play, if theirs local, they play well06:56
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benneranyone have a clue?07:02
uniqbenner: that's normal if the application you're using to play doesn't support the specific protocol.07:04
Bazzibenner: there are some weird bugs with smb and amarok ywah07:04
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bennerBazzi: but ever xmms and kaffeine do the same07:05
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bennerxine: input plugin cannot open MRL07:05
bennerxine: found input plugin  : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient07:05
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bennerBazzi: but ever xmms and kaffeine do the same07:07
Bazziyeah then that's a protocol issue07:07
bennerkaffeine returns me this error:07:07
bennerxine: input plugin cannot open MRL07:07
bennerxine: found input plugin  : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient07:07
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benneris theres a way to fix it?07:08
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dr_willishmm ya got samba installed?07:09
dr_willissounds lke the MRL is invalid.07:09
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bennernot sure... but i am able to browse all my folder from an xp machine07:09
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dr_willisi tend to use smb4k to mount my file servers shares. when playing videos from them07:10
Kurtiafter the last kernel update, my X does not work any more. It crashes either upon startup or when I try to login; card is an ATI 980007:10
dr_willistry reinstalling the ati drivers?07:10
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KurtiI even installed the flxgl (or how it is spelled) and changed to it withount any change07:11
uniqkinema: system settings - regional and accessibility - input handling ( or sometihng)07:11
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bennerdr_willis: can u elaborate on smb4k07:11
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Kurtifglrx07:11
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Kurti!info ircsi07:13
dr_willisbenner,  install smb4k, run it..  its a samba browser that can mount the shares it finds to the users home dir.07:13
Kurti!info irssi07:13
ubotuirssi: (terminal based IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.10-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 989 kB, Installed size: 2764 kB07:13
dr_willisyou do have to suid the smbmnt, and smbumont binarys for it to work properly however. (trivial)07:13
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bennerok i'm trying that... brb07:13
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stefan_any inkscape-users in here? i wonder if its possible to connect a new line (or a point of another path) to an existing point of a path..07:16
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NukerHello07:18
dr_willisMoo!07:19
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NukerCan i state my problem here?07:19
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HawkwindNuker: It would be helpful if you need us to help you07:19
NukerThat's for sure :)07:20
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NukerI got a problem regarding setting up my W-LAN: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71882307:21
NukerI just doesn't connects07:21
bennerdr_willis: i installed smb4k, run it, but when its time to mount;07:22
bennerAn error occurred while trying to mount the share.07:22
bennersmbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)07:22
dr_willisbenner,  yes. i mentioned that earlier07:22
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dr_willisyou need to chmod +s the smbmnt and smbumnt commands (i think thats right)07:22
dr_williswhich could be considered a 'security' issue.. which is why they are not that way by default I guess.. its well documented on google and the smb4k faq07:23
benneri cant find "smbmnt" in adetp07:23
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dr_willisbenner,  smbmnt is the name of a command you type07:23
dr_willisnot a package07:23
bennerah ok07:24
tommorrisSay "w00t!" for a fresh Kubuntu install!07:24
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dr_willissudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt07:24
beavisW00t07:24
tommorrisOkay, "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation."07:24
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bennerdr_willis: cool cool cool works like a charm07:26
dr_willisbenner,  its a handy tool07:26
NukerI got a problem regarding setting up my W-LAN: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71882307:27
NukerI just doesn't connects07:27
benneryes it's remove the protocol neccessary07:27
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dr_willisbenner,  if playing videos and so forth.. its MUCH better to mount the samba shares07:27
ramagreetings07:28
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bennerwill they be mount after reboot07:28
h3sp4wnnfs is usually faster than samba07:28
ramaMay I enquire whether someone succeeded in installing a network PS printer  and lived to tell the tale ?07:28
dr_willisrama,  my hp laserjet 6l works good on a dlink network print server07:29
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uncleI am new, trying to install Samba, followed the instructions on http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html , now Im lost. my xp box sees  the Mshome, but nothing in it, and my linux boes is names "linux" im sure that info must go somewhere, but have no place to put it. on the instructions - at bottom #4 I have nothing there. can i get help here for this?07:29
h3sp4wndr_willis: Have you backported cups yet ?07:29
ramaI am trying with kcontrol and I keep gettings complains about PS driver not found, though I installed everything from gutenprint (or so I think...)07:30
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dr_willish3sp4wn,  my issue seemed to be some odd printer driver issue.. it went offline because it was wanting paper tray #1  - which it saw as empty.. but i only HAVE one paper tray. :P07:30
h3sp4wndr_willis: Is it working properly now ?07:31
dr_willish3sp4wn,  yep - seems to be,07:31
dr_willisuncle,  did you dio a 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' for the users?07:31
uncleno i have not07:31
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dr_willisif ya dont do that - then the users cant login .,because they got no samba password.07:32
bennerstupid question, can i use the windows button of the keyboard for the kmenu?07:32
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uncledr willis: thanks07:33
dr_willisactually to get samba going i normally do the following.   sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAMES (for each user), then edit the smb.conf to enable writeable home dirs, and  perhaps enable broweable for the home shares as well.07:33
kinemais there a way to create konsole tab in konqueror?07:33
dr_willisthats about it.07:33
dr_williskinema,  ive seen it done.. its in the menus i thought.07:33
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unclethanks, I will look further07:33
dr_williskinema,  ive seen premade layouts for kde/konqueror that has a gui at top and the shell at the bottom, or a mc like look alike.07:33
dr_willisbut those seem to be missing. not sure what the deal is.07:34
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arschkindcan you help me with the configuration of my wlan?? answer in German would be nice07:34
dr_willisI recall looking into this once befor.  :P07:34
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ramawell, thanks anyway.07:34
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uncleis it ok if I idle here while doing other things?07:35
bennerstupid question, can i use the windows button of the keyboard for the kmenu?07:35
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korielwhy is the directory /lib/modules/<kernel>/build missing?07:36
korielin my system07:36
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bipolaris there a guide to building an updated kubuntu cd that includes all the current updates to dapper?07:36
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chavobenner, it's possible but it takes away the current function as a meta key, and I don't know exactly how to do it07:39
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gustavohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto goes right, thanks, :)07:39
bennerchavo: ok, i was wondering if it was only a case to check...07:40
uniqubotu: tell benner about kmediakeys07:40
uniqbenner: try what ubotu just told you. You might have success. Though i can't guarantee it.07:40
uncleI'll bbl, thanks for the info07:40
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mikel2hi07:43
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benneruniq: i could install windows layout keyboard... when i try to customize the K-menu keyboard shortcut (ALT-F1) i press the windows button, he appears WIN but i have to add a second button07:47
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bennerbut anyways that's doesnt matter so much07:49
uniqhang on.07:49
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uniqbenner: i'm trying to find the solution for you, it just takes some time.07:52
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bennerok but i dont want to bother u if u dont find it07:53
jme__benner: just relax and enjoy the ride :)07:54
Official_Cwhen you make a partition for an OS, how do you make sure that the partition starts at the outermost edge of the hdd platter07:54
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Official_Cis it default?07:54
uniqbenner: take a look at this forum thread: http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=1145107:54
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jme__Official_C: there are no default. the partitionning tool should tell you07:54
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Official_Cbecause i want to create a 10GB partition for just WinXP and apps and i want max seek performance07:55
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kinemahmmm.... msttcorefonts isn't in universe,07:55
uniqofficial_c: in most partition programs you can choose to put the partition at the beginning or at the end of the disk.07:55
uniq!info msttcorefonts07:55
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 164 kB07:55
uniqkinema: as you can see, ubotu says it's in multiverse.07:55
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Official_Cuniq: how do i know what the partition tool defines as "beginning" or "end" of the disk.  would beginning refer to the outermost edge?07:56
jme__Official_C: im not sure you can say from the track number where the track is on the platter07:56
kinemauniq: thanks07:56
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jme__in fact that a interesting question07:57
jme__but i dunno how to find out...07:57
bennerthanks uniq, i'll bookmark it and try later i have to go... but thanks you everyone who helps me, u have been very useful!!!07:57
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uniqofficial_c: yes, i guess so. i've always thought beginning is the inner edge. Like when you burn a CD with just one music track, it doesn't go very far from the center.07:58
Official_Cuniq: good point07:58
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Official_Ci think i need to look into this "Partition Magic" program08:03
Official_Coh...its not free, screw that08:03
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uniqofficial_c: gparted is nice.08:04
Official_Cdo they have that for windows too?08:04
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mindspitcan anyone give me the apache2 default apache2.conf file?08:05
mindspiti ruined it!08:06
Official_Cuniq: it seems i can make a livecd for qtparted08:06
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Official_Cwill it let me do ntfs partitions?08:06
uniqofficial_c: i don't know , check their webpage.08:07
uniqI can recommend sysrescuecd,it included gparted and some other nice tools.08:07
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Official_Ccool, it does08:08
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Official_Cuniq: just FYI, i found out that the first partition put on a HD does start at the outermost edge08:11
Official_Cjust for future ref08:11
uniqofficial_c: OK, thanks, then i don't have to waste the rest of my evening searching for the answer :)08:11
Official_Clol08:11
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Official_Ci kinda want to do some kind of benchmark on my HD to see the performance boost i get out of this08:16
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Official_Cnot sure if PCMark would do exactly the kind of benchmark im lookin for08:16
vallis[Evil] [Ernie] , i got my g3 box running08:16
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sohaibim a newbie at linux lol i need help08:21
sohaib:(08:21
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sohaibi downloaded firefox08:21
sohaibi have the file08:21
sohaibbut when i open it08:21
sohaiball it shows is a list of files08:21
sohaibhow do i install?08:21
robotgeeksohaib: you can install it from the repositories.08:21
sohaibok08:21
sohaibthank you08:21
robotgeeksohaib: are you on 5.10 or 6.06?08:21
sohaib6.0608:22
vallisi'd still install it direct from mozilla08:22
robotgeeksohaib: okay, you can install it using adept/add-remove programs08:22
sohaibok08:22
robotgeekvallis: why do you say so?08:22
sohaibit asks for password08:22
sohaib=/08:22
uniqgive it your password.08:22
robotgeeksohaib: user password08:22
vallisthat way you get updates when mozilla release them, not when they're added to the repos08:22
sohaibok08:23
vallisand as its auto updating, you usually get them the dat they're released08:23
vallis*day08:23
robotgeekhmm, i use konqueror most of the time, so i am not sure about firefox08:24
uniqmy firefox autoupdates from mozilla.. i think.08:24
sohaibi am in adept installer, im clueless at this point08:24
sohaibit shows the programs08:24
vallisat the moment konqueror is actually ahead of firefox in terms of standards compliance08:24
uniqi'm not 100% positive, since i rarely use it though.08:24
robotgeekmine says 1.5.0.4, but also says dapper-updates08:24
sohaibhow do i add the firefox?08:24
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robotgeeksohaib: which program did you open?08:25
sohaibk menu -> Add/Remove Programs08:26
sohaibit loaded up Adept installer08:26
sohaibit shows a list of programs08:26
robotgeekis there a search box somewhere there?08:26
sohaibyes08:26
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sohaibok08:27
sohaibi have found firefox08:27
sohaibbut08:27
sohaibit is greyed out08:27
sohaib:S08:27
sohaibi dont think kubuntu supports it?08:27
jvzhey, how can I become an official en-gb translator on Launchpad?08:27
NoUse!enter08:28
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.08:28
jvzdammit, I didn't; don't bust that bot out every 5 seconds08:28
uniqjvz: register and start translating.08:28
uniq!fishing08:28
jvzoh wait, I'm in #ubuntu, not ##php, nevermind08:28
ubotufishing is probably randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)08:28
jvzI did do that, but it's waiting for approval, and I've noticed a bunch of people have been waiting _months_08:29
robotgeeksohaib: maybe it is already installed?08:29
chavoadd/remove programs only shows kde apps by default08:30
uniqjvz: it's up to the administrators for the launchpad group then i guess.08:30
sohaibi dont think it is08:30
robotgeekjvz: maybe email and ask the mailing list? i also think you can translate without approval, your work will need to be reviewed appropriately08:30
sohaibi will try another program08:30
jvzwell, is mez in here? he's the admin of the locale-en-gb group08:30
robotgeeksohaib: just open terminal and "sudo apt-get install firefox" :)08:30
sohaibok08:30
sohaibthank you08:30
uniqjvz: he was some minutes ago.08:31
uniqjvz: 19:44       Mez [i=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez]  quits (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))08:31
uniqthat would be 45 minutes ago.08:31
uniqor so.08:32
sohaibThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:32
sohaibis only available from another source08:32
sohaibHowever the following packages replace it:08:32
sohaib  libnss308:32
sohaibE: Package firefox has no installation candidate08:32
sohaib:S08:32
sohaibi give up08:32
jvzthat doesn't sound like "some minutes ago" :P08:32
uniqsohaib: don't give up.08:32
uniqjvz: in my world it is. :)08:32
sohaiblol this is my first time at linux08:32
sohaibso im not used to anything08:33
jvzsohaib: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?08:33
NoUsesohaib can you pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list file please?08:33
robotgeeksohaib: that's why we are here, to help you :)08:33
sohaib:)08:33
robotgeeksohaib: sudo apt-get install -f08:33
jvzrobotgeek: he might not even have the proper repositories enabled, so that wouldn't help now would it08:33
sohaibno effect robotgeek08:33
sohaib:(08:33
robotgeekjvz: firefox is in main?08:33
jvztheoretically08:33
NoUse!info firefox08:34
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 7720 kB, Installed size: 22868 kB08:34
jvz!info libnss308:34
ubotulibnss3: (Network Security Service Libraries - runtime), section libs, is optional. Version: 2:1.firefox1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 653 kB, Installed size: 1496 kB08:34
uniqfirefox is in main,but it don't think it's on the kubuntu cd.08:34
sohaib[19:33]  <NoUse> sohaib can you pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list file please?08:34
jvzwell, he needs to add the deb line for it08:34
uniqso my guess would be 'aptitude update;aptitude install firefox'08:34
sohaibhow can i access it08:34
NoUse!pastebin08:34
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.08:34
sohaib!pastebin08:35
NoUsesohaib open it in a text editor08:35
jvzdeb ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse08:35
NoUsesohaib and copy it to that page that ubotu just posted08:35
uniqsohaib: could you please try this command in the konsole first: 'sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude install firefox' ?08:35
sohaibok08:35
sohaib!pastebin08:35
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.08:35
jvzoh my, a program for pastbinning thing? /me runs off to install it08:35
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sohaibuniq08:36
sohaibNo candidate version found for firefox08:36
sohaibNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.08:36
sohaib:S08:36
jvzoh great, it's a GTK package; here comes like 10 dependencies08:36
NoUsesohaib pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file08:36
sohaib!pastebin08:36
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.08:36
sohaib:|08:37
sohaibhow08:37
NoUsejvz thats that the ubuntu people say when they install k3b :-)08:37
chavojvz, there's a python script to08:37
jvzanyone in here using edgy?08:37
NoUsesohaib open the file in a text editor and paste it to the website ubotu posted08:37
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sohaibok08:37
sohaib!pastebin08:38
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.08:38
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uniqjvz: not yet,i have a pbuilder chroot though.08:38
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NoUse!msgthebot08:38
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:38
sohaibarghhh08:38
sohaibim so confused08:38
jvzuniq: it's just that an assload of packages from edgy are warning that they can't find the en_GB L10n, so it uses C instead :(08:38
sohaibi have that web page opened that ubotu told me to paste in08:39
sohaibi type !pastebin08:39
sohaibnothing happens08:39
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robotgeeksohaib, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:39
NoUsesohaib !pastebin is just to have ubotu display the link, it doesn't paste it for you08:39
uniqjvz: you have the 'locales' package installed?08:39
jvzcopy your /etc/apt/sources.list file into the text box on that paste.ubuntu-nl.org site08:39
jvzuniq: I thought I did08:39
NoUsesohaib hightlight the text in the text editor, Ctrl+C, go to your web browser and paste it08:40
jvzoh wait, I think I know the problem; I installed some crap from Sid once and forgot to remove it (it overwrote stuff in the locales)08:40
sohaibok08:40
chavolocales is currently broken in edgy08:40
jvzfigures08:40
sohaibhow do i access the list..08:40
sohaibis there an explorer?08:41
jvzchavo: what's wrong with it?08:41
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chavonew libc broke it afaik08:41
jvzsohaib: you can use Konqueror for now (it's like a gear and a globe icon)08:41
sohaibok08:41
jvzalright, I'm no good at downgrading with apt-get; how would I do that?08:42
jvzdo I need to use /etc/apt/preferences or something?08:42
chavothat's why I have edgy on another partiton08:42
HawkwindIs there any way of doing a net install of Kubuntu 6.06 ?08:43
jvzaiee, I should do that08:43
h3sp4wnjvz: You can use apt pinning to do a forced downgrade08:43
uniqjvz: no, apt-get install packagename=version08:43
uniqjvz: first check for available versions: apt-cache policy packagename08:43
sohaibhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1600608:43
sohaibi finally understoof what to do08:44
sohaibunderstood*08:44
NoUsewow, the whole file is commented out08:44
sohaibthere is the source.list file pasted08:44
sohaibis that a bad thing?08:44
NoUsesohaib thats what is causing it not to work08:44
sohaib:|08:44
sohaibso what do i need to do08:45
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NoUsesohaib run this 'sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6666 -O /etc/apt/sources.list' in the Konsole08:45
h3sp4wnI recommend starting from scratch (renaming the file to something else and just adding what you need)08:45
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NoUsesohaib its under the System Menu in the KMenu08:46
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sohaibdone08:46
uniqsohaib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16007 - now i've made the neccessary changes to your file. you can copy it back. and run 'sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude install firefox' and it will work.08:46
jvzman, how do I use cdebootstrap for Ubuntu?08:46
uniqjvz: you must make your own config sets.08:47
sohaibnouse08:47
NoUsesohaib now 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install firefox'08:47
sohaibthank you08:47
h3sp4wnjvz: Are you deboostrapping for a different architecture ?08:47
jvzno, debootstrapping for edgy08:47
sohaibnouse08:47
sohaibit is working08:47
NoUsesohaib great08:47
h3sp4wnwhy cdebootstrap not debootstrap ?08:47
jvzI dunno08:47
FisherPdoes anyone know how to fix usb stick problems??08:48
uniqcdebootrap is cooler :)08:48
jvzif debootstrap will work better...08:48
HawkwindAnyone have info about doing a netinstall of Kubuntu 6.06 by chance ?08:48
uniqfisherp: depends. what is your problem? and what's in your /etc/fstab?08:48
h3sp4wnAny particular reason other than you can cdebootstrap ppc from x86 ?08:48
jvzis there any way to dist-upgrade to a previous version (e.g. from edgy to dapper)08:48
uniqfisherp: please post your /etc/fstab on to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com08:48
h3sp4wnjvz: Apt pinning is the way08:49
sohaibhrm08:49
sohaibit is stuck08:49
sohaib:|08:49
uniqjvz: yes.08:49
uniqjvz: it's evil, not supported and will probably break. But it is possible.08:49
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jvzwell, uniq, there weren't many packages that were upgraded from dapper to edgy yet, so it's still possible I hope08:49
sohaibok08:50
Pitchshifteranyone have an idea as to why some of my screensavers (mainly the openGL ones) only showup on half of my screen?  Just the top half08:50
sohaibi got problems08:50
sohaibhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1600808:50
sohaib:|08:50
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jvzwell, I can say that for one, "apt-get moo" doesn't do anything useful (I wish they'd do something useful with that stupid easter egg :P)08:51
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edneymatiashello all!08:51
FisherPuniq, ok it's posted.. i don't know if it worked..... I have just upgraded from breezy to dappr and now my usb mass storage devices are not picked up08:52
h3sp4wnjvz: aptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo08:52
sohaibcan someone help me?08:52
sohaibim installing firefox08:52
sohaiband im stuck at this point08:52
FisherPuniq http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71906308:52
sohaibhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1600808:52
sohaibit wont move08:52
jvzh3sp4wn: roffles08:52
NoUsesohaib do you have your network set up?08:53
sohaibyes08:53
sohaibi can access the internet08:53
jvzan elephant being eaten by a snake? :p08:53
NoUsesohaib from the kubuntu computer?08:53
sohaibyes08:53
sohaibim on it right now08:53
sohaibim talking in konversation irc08:53
NoUsesohaib go to a console and type 'dig archive.ubuntu.com'08:54
sohaibdone08:54
sohaibwant me to paste?08:54
jvzy'know, I never really noticed how useful aptitude and dselect were08:54
NoUsesohaib pastebin08:54
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jvzme and my archaic "apt-get install" and "apt-cache search"08:55
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sohaibhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1600908:55
h3sp4wnjvz: aptitude even lets you play minesweeper if you get annoyed with horrible dependancy problems (i.e running sid at the wrong time)08:55
sohaibi had the same problem during install08:55
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NoUsesohaib have you tried from adept?08:55
sohaibit could not access the mirror08:55
sohaibno08:55
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sohaibi will try now08:56
h3sp4wnIf you are using wireless sometimes you have to do aptitude update then control c it and then do it again straight away for it to update properly08:56
jvzwhat's the URL for Ubuntu changelogs?08:56
sohaibhrm08:57
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sohaibit says database lcoked....08:57
sohaib:S08:57
jvzoh, that's a fun problem08:57
sohaibi think firefox is still installing for some reason...08:57
sohaibi will log off08:57
jvzmake sure all your adept/aptitude/whatever programs are closed/killed08:57
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NoUsesohaib Ctrl+C the aptitude process08:57
NoUsesohaib I have to go08:57
sohaibok08:57
sohaibAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one08:57
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sohaibi will log off08:58
sohaibbrb08:58
uniqjvz: hows the downgrading going?08:58
_daviduniq. My _FishrPconnection08:58
_daviduniq. My connection got lost sorry... did you have a fix ??08:59
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uniq_david: ah, sorry. /media/RunDisk is your usb device?08:59
_daviduniq.. yeah, it was an old fix but using simplymepis last nite had the stick under sde09:00
jvzI don't know how to do it :(09:01
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uniq_david: ok. remove the last line from /etc/fstab. save and restart (hal and dbus must be restarted and some services depend on it to run, you could do this without rebooting but rebootin is the fastet and easiest way). Now it should automount.09:02
uniqjvz: ok, i'll walk you through it.09:02
jvzk09:02
_daviduniq ill give it try09:02
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sohaibok09:04
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sohaibthats it i09:04
sohaibi quit09:04
sohaiblol09:04
sohaibstill greyed out @_@09:04
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uniqjvz: edit /etc/apt/preferences and add: Package: * \n Pin: release a=edgy \n Pin-Priority: -10009:04
uniqjvz: \n = new line09:05
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uniqsohaib: its name is kopete.09:05
sohaibok09:05
sohaib:)09:05
uniqsohaib: si firefox still greyed oout?09:05
sohaibyes09:05
sohaib:(09:05
sohaibill just use the default browser09:06
uniqsohaib: a final try in konsole would be: 'sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude install firefox'09:06
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sohaibi will try09:06
sohaibbut i doubt it will work09:06
uniqi think it will. :)09:06
sohaibok09:06
bernieris pastebin working???09:06
uniqbernier: not here.. atleast very slow.09:07
bernierkk09:07
sohaibit does not work09:07
sohaibsame error09:07
sohaib:(09:07
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uniqsohaib: what was the error?09:07
bernierhi, I'm trying to install MohAA and i get that error while running "mohaa-lnx-1.11-beta2.run" http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/71910809:07
sohaibit cannot connect to Archive.Ubuntu.com09:07
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sohaibyet i am able to access the web09:08
sohaib:S09:08
sohaiband irc09:08
uniqsounds strange.09:08
_daviduniq ... it's a no show09:08
jvzhold up09:08
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uniqsohaib: sounds strange.09:09
sohaibyes09:09
sohaibmaybe firefox isnt compatible09:09
sohaib:S09:09
sohaibsomehow09:09
uniqbernier: kmenu -> system -> adept, search for 'libgtk1.2' and install it.09:10
uniqsohaib: yes it should be.09:10
sohaibthen maybe i downloaded a wrong version09:10
sohaibi went to the official site09:10
sohaiband it had kept recommending the i686 version09:10
sohaibis this normal?09:10
uniqyou should install it from archive.ubuntu.com, but if it's not accessible for you it's very strange.09:11
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uniq_david: hmm.. then i don't know. All references to USB devices in /etc/fstab will stop automounting. You might have another problem.. I'm not sure what it could be though.09:12
sohaibwhat is odd is that i am able to access the archive in the web browser09:12
sohaib:S09:12
sohaibis it necessary to access online for an installation?09:12
uniqsohaib: 'sudo apt-get update' gives the same error?09:12
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sohaibit works...09:12
sohaib:S :S :S09:12
uniq'sudo apt-get update' works?09:13
sohaibit downloads09:13
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sohaibyes09:13
FisherPDoe anyone else know how to fix usb problems ???09:13
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sohaibit wont update because the other install task is not killed09:13
sohaib:S09:13
sohaibhow do i kill the other task09:13
sohaibi closed the terminal down09:13
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sohaibwithout doing anything09:13
sohaib:S09:13
uniqsohaib: 'sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock'09:13
FisherPuniq I only commented out... should this matter09:13
uniqfisherp: no, shouldn't matter.09:14
sohaibthank you09:14
sohaibi will just leave firefox09:14
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uniqfisherp: you can always try to remove it completely, you have the backup on pastebin :)09:14
uniqsohaib: if apt-get works, you could try to use adept, kmenu - system - adept09:15
FisherPuniq i'm not too concerned if i have it or not... but i also have a card reader with an SD in it and it's not picked up either09:15
uniqsohaib: it does the same, but it's graphical.09:15
sohaibok09:15
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sohaibkopete installs09:17
sohaibfine09:17
sohaib:)09:17
uniqgreat :)09:17
sohaibit is not greyed out09:17
sohaibi cannot seem to do anything but click on it...09:17
jvzokay, uniq, added that to my apt_preferences09:17
uniqjvz: ok, 'apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade'09:18
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uniqjvz: wait, first change all instances of edgy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list09:18
jvzI did09:18
uniqTHEN run apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade09:18
jvzall I did was add edgy to my sources.list09:18
uniqok,good, then it doesn't matter,  you can safely leave it there if you want.09:19
jvzer, that doesn't do anything09:19
jvzshould it be o=edgy or a=edgy?09:20
uniqsohaib: right click 'request install' doesn't work?09:20
uniqa=09:20
jvzokay, apt-get -u dist-upgrade doesn't do anything09:20
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uniqdoesn't remove anything?09:20
sohaibuniq09:20
sohaibi got it working09:20
sohaibits ok09:20
sohaib:)09:20
sohaibkopete09:21
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sohaibfirefox failed >:(09:21
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RappeHi i have a sproblem with Ubuntu, i cant get my internetconnection to work.... It works fine with Kubuntu Live cd, any ideas09:22
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Rappeplz someone09:25
uniqjvz: ah, my mistake, you need a section for dapper too.09:25
uniqjvz: 'Package: * \n Pin: release a=dapper \n Pin: 1001'09:26
uniqjvz: then do 'apt-get dist-upgrade'09:26
jvzah09:26
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elknof3hi everybody...  how can i check how many video i have assigned, and hom many is left for RAM??09:29
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DrBairanyone know how to add things to the kmenu in the actions section?09:30
uniqjvz: you might want to add dapper-security and dapper-updates to the file too. with priority 1001.09:31
jvzah, there we go09:31
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jvzI'll update that once I dist-upgrade09:32
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uniqwhen you've dist-"downgraded" you can remove the contents of the preferences file, then it's not needed anymore.09:32
Rappeno one who can help me___09:32
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uniqas long as you remove the edgy source from sources.list too09:32
jvz"Yes, do as I say!"09:32
uniqhehe :)09:33
jvzwell, note to self: re-install libapache2-mod-php5 afterwards09:33
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uniqrappe: if it works fine with kubuntu i'm happy. I don't know much about the ubuntu-gnome way of doing things. please ask in #ubuntu09:33
uniqhe left. oh well.09:34
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SeanTaterping09:44
SeanTatergosh it's quiet09:44
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HawkwindSeanTater: Shhhhh, we're trying to sleep :)09:47
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jpatrickwhatever you're up to uniq stop it09:51
railkhow do i reconnect to a wireless network when i get disconnected?09:51
jpatrick;)09:51
uniqjpatrick: cleaning up in the banlist, was the plan.09:51
uniqjpatrick: 50+ days old bans are not needed.09:52
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jpatrickI'm joking09:52
uniq:)09:52
gnomefreakand i thought i left them and forgot about them :(09:52
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gnomefreaknot a bad idea though brb09:52
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cox377uniq: what the hell happened?09:54
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railkwow massive ban list...09:54
uniqcox377: housekeeping.09:54
cox377lol09:55
LjLi've started using kopete and i have some questions, i haven't been using messengers for a long time... i'm on jabber right now. when the other person focuses his own messenger's windows, i get a message in the status bar notifying me of that. when he starts typing, i get a message about that09:55
LjLis Kopete sending the same sort of information to them? if so i hope i can disable anything of this sort?09:55
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railkLjL: yes there is an option somewhere to disable it09:56
railk... i think...09:57
LjLhm i can see "become available when activity detected"09:57
railki cant seem to find it09:57
LjLthat should be one that i should disable09:57
LjLit's in behavior / away settings09:57
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DarkStoneCould not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)09:57
DarkStoneE: Unable to lock the list directory09:57
DarkStonehelp?09:57
LjLsudo?09:57
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railkLjL: nah that just changes your away setting when you idle and when you start doing something again09:58
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uniqdarkstone: try 'sudo program' instead.09:58
DarkStoneok09:58
LjLrailk: yeah well, that's a start. definitely something i *don't* want to happen automatically09:58
railkhehehe... paranoid freak ;)09:59
railkah found it09:59
MaterMaravillaehey can anyone help me? my task bar dissapeared, and ALT+F2 -> kicker doesnt work09:59
slow-motionre09:59
DarkStoneoh no...09:59
LjLyeah. well no. actually i didn't *want* to run Kopete, or anything of the kind. i've been almost forced to doing it09:59
DarkStoneits not connecting09:59
DarkStone@_@09:59
railkfor each connection you have you have to click on the connection icon and click properties, its under the privacy tab09:59
LjLright, thanks. that looks like most of the things i need to disable10:00
jpatrickMaterMaravillae: no debug?10:00
railkyup10:00
jpatrickMaterMaravillae: run it in konsole10:00
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MaterMaravillaeok ill try10:00
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railkso... anyone how i can somehow reconnect to a wireless network with the settings i've configured?10:00
uniqmatermaravillae: alt+f2 'dcop kicker kicker restart'10:00
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railk(when i get disconnected)10:00
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LjLwhy should my linux default to letting people eavesdrop my mouse pointer10:01
MaterMaravillaeuniq that makes the bar appear for one second10:01
railknah LjL all protocols have am and the standard clients have em on... and hardly anyone is as paranoid10:01
MaterMaravillaebut it dissapears again10:01
jpatrickdebug time10:01
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uniqmatermaravillae: is it set to hide automatically?10:01
MaterMaravillaewhat should i write in konsole jpatrick?10:01
jpatrickkicker10:02
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MaterMaravillaeyes uniq, but it doesnt come out when i put the mouse in the bottom10:02
railkLjL: i mean seriously, what does it matter if someone knows i havn't moved my mouse recently? and it is actually quite helpful if you can see whether your partner is typing anything...10:02
MaterMaravillaeerror: kicker is already running!10:02
jpatrickkillall kicker10:02
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davelondonLjL: u've got me confused mate-what do u mean10:02
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LjLrailk: unless i happen to not *want* others to know precisely when i am at the computer, when i have actually seen their message, etc. cell phones and SMS are already annoying enough. i'm almost running out of excuses for keeping my cell phone off.10:03
uniqjpatrick: it works, it's just autohiding having problems, killing it will only make it worse.10:03
MaterMaravillaei shouldnt paste here the result in konsole, should i?10:03
jpatrick!pastebin10:03
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long pieces of text, to avoid disrupting the channel. You might also want to use the "webboard" package from Universe.10:03
jpatrickLjL: tell them your dog ate it10:03
MaterMaravillaeok thx ubotu10:03
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LjLdavelondon: hm? i mean i don't like people knowing that whether i am at the computer or not, and whether i have actually displayed their incoming message or not, and whether i'm typing something at the keyboard or not.10:03
railkLjL: half the point of a cell phone is so people can contact you... so its kinda useful if you have it on most of the time...10:03
uniqmatermaravillae: alt+f2 'dcop kicker kicker showTaskBarConfig' - set it to not autohide.10:04
LjLsounds like basic privacy to me10:04
davelondonLjL: you may have to explain what u really mean, how can I know if u moved ur mouse10:04
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serenityhi10:04
railkdavelondon: well if it automatically sets him to away after 5 mins of idling, i can see whether hes active or not... or so LjL says10:04
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LjLrailk: course. but i might not *want* to be contacted, at times. and then they ask, almost angrily: "why was your phone off?" - what should i asnwer, "because". because i'm not necessarily willing to be bothered at any time10:04
uniqljl: please make a bugreport at http://launchpad.net/malone I fully support your opinion.10:04
MaterMaravillaeheyyyyyyyyyyyyyy10:05
serenityare some "partygames" for linux (like eyetoy, dance dance revolution etc)?10:05
MaterMaravillaethat worked uniq10:05
LjLrailk: no, no, that's one part of it. it actually notifies people that i have the Kopete window focused, and that sort of thing.10:05
davelondonsimple turn the internet off or do not open programs where people can contact u10:05
railkLjL: if you don't want to be contacted you might as well tell them to stfu or similar...10:05
MaterMaravillaethx uniq and jpatrick10:05
LjLuniq: thank you :)10:05
MaterMaravillaethanks a lot10:05
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jpatrickno problem10:05
davelondonor move10:05
railko.O LjL you sure? i thought it only notifies when you actually close the chat window10:05
uniqmatermaravillae: happy to help :)10:05
MaterMaravillaeglad to hear that10:06
davelondonto a padded cell10:06
LjLrailk: look again in that Privacy tab. right click for "What's this" on every item, and think carefully what they're actually doing. especially "Always send displayed notification"10:06
railkLjL: so they see that you've received the message they sent?10:07
LjLrailk: while "always send delivered notification" simply means that Kopete tells the other client "yeah, i've received the message", that one tells it "yeah, the *user* can actually see the message on the screen, 'cause he has the window focused, or has got a pop-up"10:07
railkoh yay10:07
railk'specially since *so* many clients actually use that feature...10:08
LjLrailk: they can see that i've received it, they can see that i've displayed it, and they can see that i've actually clicked on the message window to (maybe) start typing a reply (but maybe not)10:08
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uniqljl: it really should be disabled by default.10:08
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railkok so the displayed notification is questionable, you've convinced me10:09
LjLuniq, railk: and also don't underestimate the "hide system and client info" option, which is *disabled* by default. right now, i'm more concerned with "privacy paranoia", let's say... but that one's saying "hey, hack me!"10:09
railki still stand for the other two as being useful10:09
railkyeah thats something thats always been strange about the jabber protocol, it always displayed the client and whatnot...10:10
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uniqljl: heh :)10:10
LjLrailk: the first (i.e. "the message was received from the network") is useful, yeah, it's there in most protocols and it's reasonable10:10
railknever understood the logic behind that10:10
LjLi do also question the "user has started typing", though10:10
railkthe typing one is reasonable because i know when i might want to wait for my partner to finish typing his message and send it to me... i know if hes gonna reply to what i've said or not10:11
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LjLi find it also stupid that those options *have* to be set on a per-account basis. i mean, it might be useful, but there certainly *should* be a "main override", so to speak10:11
LjLrailk: sure, but then even "displayed" is reasonable, as long as you're OK with giving that information away. it depends on the person, and on the person you're typing to. i just think that, by default, Kopete should favour the paranoid, since those options are quite well hidden, and i might easily not even know it's *doing* that10:12
LjLcan i say "spyware"? ;P10:12
railkheh no you cant, it *can* be disabled...10:13
LjLsome acutal spyware can be disabled, too. it just tries its best to avoid making you *notice* it's enabled at all, so you probably won't disable it10:13
LjLi still call that spyware, although there is certainly a nastier kind10:14
railkmeh well if you're so paranoid you should be interested in this sort of stuff anyway...10:14
railkand do as you did, namely ask... or look for it10:14
LjLwhy do you think the first thing i did was to come into here and ask? --- but still, why doesn't ubuntu come with a Samba server by default, a timeserver, an SSH server, and that sort of stuff?10:14
uniqljl: please make a bugreport. and take this to #kubuntu-devel for further discussion. Someone might need help and be polite enought to don't interrupt your discussion. I'm on the otherhand rude :)10:15
LjLi mean - hey - it's handy. if you really are paranoid about security, you can disable it10:15
LjLsee the point?10:15
jme__i dont :)10:15
LjLok uniq, i'll let the channel come back to its topic10:15
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uniqljl: thanks. I support you on this. Makeing a bugreport is the way to go. :)10:16
h3sp4wnNothing should be enabled unless specifically done manually10:16
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uniqthat's not true either, we need a balance. useability vs. security.10:17
h3sp4wn(I think even ssh shouldn't be started when its installed until it is specifically enabled - stops people who install loads of stuff they don't use from making their systems insecure)10:17
jme__how running ssh make your computer insecure ?10:18
uniqjme__: if you don't know how to upgrade, or just don't upgrade, ssh can be a security risk.10:18
jme__uniq: like any other programm :)10:18
uniqjme__: generally all running services are security risks. especially daemons.10:18
uniqjme__: correct, like any other program.10:19
jme__and i would say ssh less as it is written with security in mind10:19
uniqit would still be fatal if a remote root exploit was discovered, and the user don't update his version.10:20
jme__but in fact this is a good10:20
jme__question10:20
jvzdo I need mktemp in dapper?10:20
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jme__what is the default state of the firewall in kubuntu ?10:20
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h3sp4wnCompletely open10:21
jme__does it allow incoming connections ?10:21
uniqjvz: yes.10:21
jme__h3sp4wn: you mean any incoming connection can come ?10:21
h3sp4wnIf the services are running yes10:21
uniqjme__: there is no firewall by default.10:21
jvzuniq: but it depends on libc6 2.4.1~10:21
jme__wow this doesnt seems good to me :)10:21
jme__and i dont see why in fact :)10:21
jme__why not to put a firewall ?10:22
trappistjme__: if your security depends on a packet filter, your security is in bad shape10:22
uniqjme__: no firewall and no services by default is not a problem.10:22
trappistjme__: one reason, how does ubuntu know what ports you want open?10:22
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jme__trappist: well this is always the issue 'how apps open port'10:22
uniqjvz: is it a package named mktemp? mktemp is in the debianutils package.10:23
jvzoh10:23
jme__but leaving all the ports open seems 'weird' to me at best :)10:23
jvzyeah10:23
jme__but it is true that i dont know any good firewall software on linux10:23
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trappistjme__: I like ipkungfu10:23
uniqjme__: guarddog for kde.10:23
jvzjme__: Linux has its own firewall10:24
jvzit's called iptables, but there are more friendly ways of configuring it10:24
trappistjvz: the kernel has a packet filter, but it's not a firewall until you tell it what to filter and what to allow10:24
jme__trappist: uniq: oh i dont know this two10:24
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jme__jvz: which is coded like shit but it is another subject :)10:24
trappistjme__: iptables?10:24
jme__trappist: yep10:25
jme__like ultimatly badly done :)10:25
jme__and they tried like 3 time to get it right :)10:25
jme__iptable is the third10:25
trappistjme__: that's a pretty irresponsible and trollish thing to say for someone who doesn't know much about firewalls10:25
jme__trappist: yep but i know  alot so i say it :)10:25
trappistuh huh.10:25
jme__hehe i guess you dont believe me :)10:26
trappistI guess not10:26
jme__well i coded router and ip stack :)10:26
uniqiptables works for me :)10:26
jme__i discovere several security holes :)10:26
jme__in several vpn on linux10:26
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jme__and in main routing protocol of the internet10:26
jme__so yeah im confortable saying that :)10:26
jme__trappist: tried to do ipqueue one day ?10:27
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jme__like 2 process doing ipqueue ?10:27
jme__well you cant :) ipqueue can be done only by 1 process :)10:27
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jme__how lame is this :)10:27
LjLuniq: what do you say, *bug*, or wish/suggestion?10:27
jvzhow do I re-configure the locales for all packages?10:27
uniqljl: normal bug.10:28
trappistjme__: what's the point of two processes.  iptables sends anything you want to queue to whatever you have listening on the socket.  why would you want two separate processes there?10:28
h3sp4wnjme: Why not work on porting openbsd pf to linux then ? If you know so much about network programming10:28
uniqjvz: dpkg-reconfigure -plow localeconf10:28
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h3sp4wnjme: It is much better to use10:29
jme__trappist: like i have something using ipqueue. how do i deploy it ?10:29
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trappistsounds like having two webservers trying to listen on port 8010:29
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jme__trappist: answer my simple question :)10:29
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trappistjme__: depends on the language.10:30
jme__h3sp4wn: see i was not that far fetch when i said iptable is coded badly :)10:30
uniqtrappist, jme__, maybe #kubuntu-offtopic is the place to continue this discussion? as this is a help channel. :)10:30
trappistuniq: good call.10:30
jme__trappist: like i care about the language :) this is a kernel thing10:30
DarkStonehow do i install themes for kubuntu?10:30
trappistjme__: #kubuntu-offtopic10:31
gnomefreakDarkStone: try kde-look.org10:31
jme__trappist: hehe :)10:31
DarkStoneim on that10:31
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DarkStonebut i dont know what to do with the files10:31
uniqdarkstone: what type of theme is this?10:32
h3sp4wnIncidently with regards to iptables is anyone knowledgable about the qos stuff in iptables ?10:32
h3sp4wnconnmark and l7-filters specifically10:32
DarkStonehttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3990210:32
DarkStonethat one10:33
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DarkStonehow do i install this10:33
uniqdarkstone: that's a GTK 1.x theme. works for xmms and applications made with the old gnome toolkit.10:33
DarkStone:|10:34
DarkStoneso...10:34
DarkStoneim guessing that doesnt work?10:34
uniqthat doesn't work, your desktop will not look like the one on the picture.10:34
DarkStoneok10:34
DarkStonewhich one is mine10:34
DarkStone3.2+?10:35
uniqyes.10:35
uniq3.2-3.510:35
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uniqpreferably kubuntu 6.06 packages.10:35
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jvzwell, this is fun; downgrading from edgy to dapper is a real bitch :(10:37
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HawkwindHeh.  Why did you ever go with Edgy in the first place10:37
uniqjvz: told you :)10:38
wilfredanyone tell me how to reset my keyboard locale?10:38
jvzI figured it would just be an update a la Sid right now10:38
jvzI didn't know libc6 would be broken to fuck and back10:38
gnomefreakjvz: downgrading isnt supported and it is a pita10:38
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jvzI hope everything went correctly10:39
gnomefreakjvz: udev and libc6 are fixed atm10:39
jvzI don't want to boot one day and see something fucked up badly10:39
gnomefreakatleast i know udev is10:39
jvzI fixed that udev problem on my own when I noticed the typo10:39
gnomefreaklibc6 isnt give me locale errors no more10:39
hsloHello - I just installed Kubuntu 6.06 and I can't seem to find the libxine-extracodecs that the ubuntu page references on the system or in the repositories.. does anyone know where to find those?10:39
jvzdid you enable multiverse?10:39
Hawkwindhslo: You have your sources.list setup properly ?10:39
hsloI enabled multiverse, yes10:40
Hawkwindhslo: Sounds like you need multiverse10:40
Hawkwindhslo: You did sudo apt-get update ?10:40
hsloYes.. the multiverse is at http://us.archive.ubuntu/com/ubuntu?10:41
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gnomefreak!multiverse10:41
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.10:41
wilfred!easysource10:41
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:41
hsloThanks, I'll look that over :)10:41
wilfredsome package installation has muffed up my keyboard settings, it thinks I'm using a US keyboard when its a UK one, anyone know how to change it?10:42
TheHighChildHey folks, I have the closed-source acroread and acroread-plugins, including for Mozilla but I still cannotview pdfs. Anyone seen this or know what to look for?10:42
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wilfredthehighchild: You should be able to open them in konqueror10:43
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DustyDingotag10:46
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DustyDingohm, wie heisst denn bitte das packet zum mplayer, ich finde das naemlich nicht,...10:46
TheHighChildwilfred: Konqueor can't seem to get that far because of .jsf pages.10:46
nico8481re10:46
LjLh3sp4wn: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/5038710:46
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wilfredthehighchild: jsf? Are you trying to view local files or ones online?10:48
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TheHighChildwilfred: Online. It opens up a "save as" dialoge when I try to view jsf pages. Firefox gets me to the pages but won't display the embedded pdfs and I cannot save them either. teh sux10:51
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wilfredthehighchild: link?10:51
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bod_Hi!10:52
tristanmikeHi bod_10:52
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bod_hey did anyone manage to make google earth work10:53
beavisthere is something annoying in kubuntu , i dont know if there is a way to get rid of it , whenever i create a new textfile and save something in it it always saves a backup of the empty textfile , its pointless10:53
bod_and by work I mean not with "emulated" open gl10:53
TheHighChildwilfred: It's a password protected site with my W2 information10:53
beavisgoogle earth isnt free , is it?10:54
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tsdgeosit is not of course10:54
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TheHighChildwilfred: It opens up the mainpage just fine which is jsf but when I attempt to login, it gives me the save as dialoge https://ipay.adp.com/login.jsf10:54
bod_not free indeed10:54
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TheHighChildbeavis: What editor are you using? Kate and emacs willdo that but nano does not10:55
NoUsebod_ mine worked right away10:55
bod_i mean free as in beer yes10:55
beavisTheHighChild: yes , im using kate , it hink its assigne to textfiles by default10:55
bod_NoUse: here it works, but awfully slowly because it "emulates" opengl10:55
NoUsebod_ that sounds more like video driver issues, mine works fine10:56
NoUsebod_ 'glxinfo | grep direct'10:56
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DoctorMOgot a problem getting hold of the windows dll files to be able to open wmv files, I've followed the unofficial guide but no luck10:56
TheHighChildwilfred: Hey man, actually. I was able to open it in a new tab, thus a workaround10:56
bod_NoUse: direct rendering: No10:56
NoUsebod_ thats the problem10:56
TheHighChildwilfred: Thanks a lot for your time and help10:57
bod_NoUse: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect10:57
bod_what should I do ?10:57
beavisbod_: so how do you plan to get this to work if its a payed service ?10:57
NoUsebod_ what kind of video card do you hae?10:57
wilfredthehighchild: No problem :-)10:57
bod_NoUse: an ati radeon aiw 8500dv10:57
larsbjarUsing sftp, I try to download a file with 'get'. But where does the file end up on? Help me!10:58
bod_beavis: you don't have to pay to use google earth10:58
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NoUsebod_ which driver are you using?10:58
beavisbod_: ok , where did you get the software for it? id like to try it10:58
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NoUsebeavis earth.gogle.com10:59
beavisNoUse: , ty10:59
TheHighChildbeavis: Go to Settings > configure > Editor > Open/Save  at the bottom "Backup on save" You can unselect "local file"10:59
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TheHighChildbeavis: /s/configure/configure kate11:00
bod_NoUse: fglrx11:00
bod_NoUse: which I installed directly from the ati website11:00
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NoUsebod_ look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why its not useing DRI11:00
NoUsebod_ the 8500 is supported by the open source ati driver though11:00
beavisTheHighChild: is that going to turn off all the backups or just backups of empty files?11:01
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eXCeSShey is there a way to change individual icons? i have links on my desktop to folders and the icon sucks lol11:01
NoUsebod_ ATI also sucks at writing drivers11:01
eXCeSStheres a few links and i confuse them becuase the icons are the same11:01
bod_NoUse: (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!11:01
bod_NoUse: (but why?)11:01
NoUsebod_ it should say11:02
NoUsebod_ pastebin the log file11:02
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RawSewageI ran this thing called Nano, and closed it yesterday, now I see it's been running hidden all day11:03
eXCeSSthe text editor?11:03
beavisbod_: did you install the fglrx driver?11:03
RawSewageyes11:03
RawSewageand it wont let me kill it11:03
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NoUseRawSewage killall -9 nano ?11:05
RawSewagety11:05
bod_NoUse: pastebin very slow :) it's loading now...11:05
bod_beavis: yes11:05
NoUsebod_ paste.ubuntu-nl.org is working nicely for me11:05
bod_NoUse: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/71948911:06
RawSewageI had to use sudo to kill nano11:07
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RawSewageIt was using up over 50% of my resources11:08
TheHighChildbeavis: It should turn off the backups that are being made. I can't say for sure though as I don't use the editor.11:08
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beavisTheHighChild: ok , thanks man11:09
NoUsebod_ #11:09
NoUse#11:09
NoUse[drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"11:09
NoUseoops sorry guys11:09
NoUsebod_ you realize that there is an ATI driver in synaptic right?11:09
NoUsebod_ you didn't need to get it from ati.com11:10
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bod_NoUse: synaptic?11:10
NoUsebod_ or adept, or apt-get11:10
NoUse!tell bod_ about ati11:10
bod_NoUse: ah :) Well yeah and I tried it! It did the same11:10
bod_that's why I then tried this11:10
NoUsebod_ you didn't install the driver properly11:10
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RawSewagehow do I log in with a completely new session11:11
RawSewageno previous apps running11:11
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thompaargg openoffice is screwing up11:11
thompanow i cant find my test i worked on, OO reverted back to some old crap11:12
bod_NoUse: you recommend I install the ubuntu package instead then?11:12
NoUsebod_ yeah11:12
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bod_NoUse: ok I'll try. thank you very much11:12
NoUsebod_ I don't use ATI thought so I won't be of much help11:12
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RawSewageI want to restart with a brand new session.  how do I do that11:13
RawSewageno telling what little things Ive accumulated that are running in the bg11:13
LjLcan anyone confirm that the jabber.org server gives an "invalid certificate" warning in Kopete?11:14
beavisbod_:  use this commands to get the ati with apt get:11:15
beavisbod_: enable all the repositories in the sources.list11:15
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beavisbod_: then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)11:17
NoUseRawSewage go to settings -> KDe Components -> Session managment11:17
kbloghi does anybody know why i cant run an wmv-file with mplayer/vlc? I can hear sound but there is no image11:17
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beavisbod_: then sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx11:17
RawSewageNoUse, ty11:18
beavisbod_: then sudo depmod -a11:18
sdlnxgkanyone have choppy video when playing movies???11:18
beavisbod_: then sudo aticonfig --initial11:18
beavisbod_: then sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv11:19
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beavisbod_: then reboot11:19
allee!teamspeak11:19
ubotuallee: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:19
TheHighChildallee: Do you need help with TS?11:20
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mindspithallo all! i want to uninstall glibc in ubuntu ... in oder for my apache/ISPConfig/php installation can work. can i ?11:20
beavisbod_: gotto go , good luck11:20
tsdgeosmindspit: glibc is the core of a linux installation, why would you want to uninstall it?11:21
lnxkde?11:21
NoUsemindspit if you uninstall glibc, nothing will work :-)11:21
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=== bod_ rebooting :)
bod_thank you for helping, hope it'll work11:25
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mindspindoes anybody have an idea how to deal with pcmcia issues? I always have to eject and insert my NIC after boot up to get it work11:29
mindspityes but PHP does not work!11:29
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alleeTheHighChild: can you connect to teamspeak.uds.canonical.com?11:29
mindspitif you want to see analytic my post here : http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30460#post3046011:30
NoUsemindspit did you follow the wiki page to set up PGP?11:30
NoUsemindspit PHP*11:30
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sledgeDamn it, that's the thirds Amarok crash in 2 hrs.11:31
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NoUsemindspit can you define "doesn't work"?11:32
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ChefWillanyone who use gaim hae the problem that the smile theme constantly changes to 'none' by itself ;/11:32
GullyFoylesledge: must be some hard-core music you're listening to :-P11:33
MetaMorfoziSChefWill: use kopete?:)11:33
ChefWillboo11:33
MetaMorfoziSin kubuntu room, based on kde...11:33
baryhey to all..i'm a new user of linux...i like it...but i need some help11:33
TheHighChildallee: is there a server password? I think they have to have passwords11:33
MetaMorfoziStry ask it in #gaim or #gnome or #ubuntu...11:33
ChefWilli got all kinds of stuff setup in gaim11:33
alleeTheHighChild: I don't know  (nothing listed at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuParisSummit)11:34
barycan anyone help me out with a connection?11:34
mindspiterror logs on apache return : *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x082bdc68 ***11:34
geneo93:-P11:35
tsdgeosmindspit: taht just means that the program is buggy11:35
tsdgeosnot a glibc fault11:35
TheHighChildallee: Ok, I selected anonymous and used a nickname and was able to connect.11:35
TheHighChildallee: Do you know how to add a server?11:36
alleeTheHighChild: I'll try ...11:36
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icheyneI just installed firefox with apt-get, but the search box does not work - any ideas?11:37
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NoUsemindspit are you running breezy or dapper?11:39
barycan ayone help me with a internet connection?11:39
RawSewageI have a problem.  I changed my Session Settings so that it starts a new session after loggig in, instead of restoring the old one11:39
alleeTheHighChild: mhmm, added label, server addr,  nickname.  selected 'anonymous'   => still error.11:40
TheHighChildallee: What is the error?11:40
RawSewagebut it hanges before it starts the  initialization phase11:40
RawSewageI had to boot using the LiveCD.. Im on LiveCD now11:40
alleeTheHighChild: we have a firewall that blocks incomming connections. Can this be a problem with teamspeak?11:40
alleeTheHighChild: No replay from server ...11:40
RawSewagefor example, it hangs before the bouncy KDE icons begin11:40
NoUsemindspit you might want to run memtest on that machine11:40
icheyneanyone know of a good livecd for checking out xgl?11:40
RawSewageit hangs at the screen immediately following the detail list part of booting up11:41
TheHighChildallee: That could be the problem. Also, DNS may not be resolving the IP address, try this address instead 82.211.81.183:876711:41
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alleeTheHighChild: 183.81.211.82.in-addr.arpa      name = marais.ubuntu.com.11:42
RawSewageSummary:  I can only access my computer  with bash now11:42
edneymatiassee ya11:42
TheHighChildallee: The address is 82.211.81.183:8767. I think you got a few octets mixed up11:43
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[Evil] [Ernie] anyone ever tried to install adobe photoshop 7 using Wine?11:43
alleeTheHighChild: dns lists from right to left.   IP does not work too.   So maybe firewall :(11:44
duckdownHey all.. Real easy question; I'm running a webserver from home, but my /pictures/ folder is WORLD READABLE (as oppposed to only be able to see specific links to .jpg's) how do I need to chmod that folder?11:45
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TheHighChildallee: At this point, it probably is. I'd give your administrators a call and see if they can open things up for you.11:46
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RawSewageSuggestiong for Edgy:  Disable IPV611:47
RawSewageit's going to hang up most people11:47
alleeTheHighChild: ok.  Thx.  I'll try to find out what/if incoming ports are used11:47
RawSewageand theyre going to think Kubuntu internet is really slow11:47
RawSewageand it's confusing disabling IPV611:47
h3sp4wnSomeone may want it the ubuntu philosophy tends to go more for enable as much as possible instead of as little as possible11:48
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RawSewageCan anyone help me with my problem11:49
RawSewageI cant log in to my computer anymore. only with bash11:49
[Evil] [Ernie] =o11:49
RawSewageKDE hangs11:49
RawSewageit wont initialize11:49
RawSewageI'll try #KDE11:49
[Evil] [Ernie] aye11:50
[Evil] [Ernie] no idea >.<11:50
mindspinRawSewage: did you try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?11:50
mindspinIt helped here...11:50
RawSewageeven though I have Kubuntu already?11:51
mindspintry it and see if it reinstalls11:51
RawSewageI dont want to do anything that extreme yet11:51
NoUseRawSewage mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebak will move all yoru KDE config stuff to a backup and when you log in, it will reset everything11:51
RawSewagety11:51
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alleeTheHighChild: uh,  teamspeak similar 'stupid' as ftp's active mode.  One has to open all UDP ports > 1024 for incomming pkgs.11:52
mindspinRawSewage: it isnt radical, if kubuntu-desktop is installed, apt-get will tell you and do notheing11:52
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bachstudiesis anyone having difficulties doing a sudo apt-get update right now? I keep getting bad header lines11:59
psychiccyberfrealemmie check11:59
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psychiccyberfreaworking for me12:00
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sdlnxgkworking for me too12:00
bachstudiesit is just hanging on one at 99%12:01
azathothcan anyone else run xgl with kubuntu yet?12:01
azathothit's breaking like hell for me12:01
azathothi followed the tutorial on the ubuntuforums to the letter, and yet it just won't work without crashing12:01
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mastermindlessre12:02
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