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| jordi | SteveA: here, by any chance? | 02:02 |
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| stub | Do we have a local branch of the bzr pqm plugin? The URL on the wiki is returning 503's (and for all I know is unstable anyway) | 06:30 |
| stub | And there doesn't seem to be any references to it on the bzr wiki | 06:33 |
| stub | Yay for distributed revision control | 06:39 |
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| stub | The URL on the launchpad wiki is returning 503's | 06:45 |
| stub | jamesh: Can you push your copy of the bzr pqm plugin to chinstrap? | 07:09 |
| jamesh | stub: just copying it now. It is ~jamesh/pqm-submit | 07:13 |
| jamesh | you should be able to branch it now (or just do scp -r) | 07:15 |
| stub | Ta | 07:16 |
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| spiv | We really ought to register that in launchpad so that it can get mirrored... | 07:21 |
| spiv | I think I saw on #bzr that the author is having temporary DNS issues with their ISP. | 07:22 |
| stub | Product and branch created | 07:36 |
| SteveA | morning | 07:45 |
| SteveA | spiv, stub, jamesh: voip call? | 08:03 |
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| jamesh | okay | 08:04 |
| spiv | ok. | 08:04 |
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| SteveA | and launchpad-meeting irc | 08:07 |
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| SteveA | cprov! malcc! Keybuk! | 08:56 |
| Keybuk | ROCKY! | 08:56 |
| cprov | SteveA ! | 08:57 |
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| SteveA | stub: are you planning a rollout tomorrow? | 09:15 |
| SteveA | if so, can i get Rev 3695 in it please | 09:17 |
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| jbailey | What's the BestWay(tm) to filter spec mail? | 09:26 |
| sivang | morning | 09:27 |
| SteveA | same way you filter other email. | 09:27 |
| SteveA | if you want more headers or something, talk to bjorn, who is in paris. | 09:27 |
| SteveA | hi sivan | 09:27 |
| jbailey | SteveA: Right now I look for X-Launchpad-Bug that contains distribution=ubuntu | 09:28 |
| jbailey | if I filter spec mail the same way: 1) My bug mail will go to my spec folder. | 09:28 |
| jbailey | 2) My spec mail will stay in my inbox. | 09:28 |
| sivang | hi SteveA | 09:28 |
| SteveA | specs should not contain an X-Launchpad-Bug header | 09:29 |
| SteveA | that would make no sense | 09:29 |
| jbailey | Exactly right. | 09:29 |
| jbailey | So your coment of filtering it the same way I filter my other mail doesn't work. | 09:29 |
| SteveA | does spec mail contain an X-Launchpad-Bug header? | 09:29 |
| jbailey | No. | 09:30 |
| SteveA | so, do you want an X-Launchpad-Spec header? | 09:30 |
| SteveA | or an X-Launchpad-Info header | 09:30 |
| SteveA | with type=spec, distribution=ubuntu in it? | 09:30 |
| jbailey | Hmm. Interesting. I'm not sure which is better. Evolution contains decent "header contains" magic, So having a single X-Luanchpad-Info would be enough for me. | 09:31 |
| jbailey | And then just overload it with all of the different types. | 09:31 |
| SteveA | yes | 09:31 |
| SteveA | that wounds like a mini-spec that you and bjorn can write up in 15 mins | 09:31 |
| SteveA | um, sounds | 09:32 |
| SteveA | no need for physical damage | 09:32 |
| jbailey | Never underestimate the value of a good sacrifice to the blood gods. | 09:32 |
| jbailey | But perhaps this one is simple enough. | 09:32 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:36 |
| jbailey | BjornT: ^^ What do you think? | 09:45 |
| BjornT | jbailey: should be easy to add such a header, we just need to decide what information the header should contain. | 09:49 |
| BjornT | i think i like X-Launchpad-Spec better, though, makes it easier for people to match on. | 09:49 |
| SteveA | it makes it tough to filter all launchpad email | 09:49 |
| jbailey | Two headers would solve both needs quite cheeply/. | 09:49 |
| jbailey | BjornT: It would be nice if the API in Launchpad for email required enough information to always generate these headers, though. | 09:50 |
| jbailey | That way it Just Happens for any email that Launchpad sends out. | 09:50 |
| carlos | jordi: hi, around? | 09:50 |
| SteveA | why not X-Launchpad-Distro: id=ubuntu; message=spec | 09:51 |
| BjornT | you can filter all launchpad mail by filtering on X-Generated-By | 09:51 |
| SteveA | to be the devil's advocate, burning the virgin strawman | 09:51 |
| jamesh | is there any way to get gmail to filter on arbitrary headers? | 09:52 |
| SteveA | what i'm saying is, why are specs and bugs special in that these should be in the name of the headers, whereas distros are not special. | 09:52 |
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| BjornT | maybe the same reason why specs and bugs have their own applications (blueprint and malone)? | 09:54 |
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| SteveA | jamesh: maybe we should have an personal option to add the launchpad info as a trailer after the message subject | 09:56 |
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| jbailey | Don't all current mail clients allow filtering on arbitrary headers? | 10:00 |
| jbailey | I don't think it's right to uglify the human-usable interface for filtering purposes. | 10:00 |
| SteveA | stub: planning a rollout for tommorow? | 10:01 |
| SteveA | jbailey: i said "personal option" above | 10:01 |
| stub | mebbey | 10:01 |
| jordi | carlos: hey | 10:01 |
| stub | We have code that needs to go out? Or shall we keep the Paris conference running on a stable system? | 10:01 |
| SteveA | i have some non-DB UI stuff i'd like to go out | 10:01 |
| carlos | jordi: do you remember the pending mailing list creations that we have? | 10:02 |
| carlos | jordi: Occitan is one. Steve says that we have another one, but I don't remeber it | 10:02 |
| jbailey | stub: Specs probably want to be stable. I'm guessing that everything else, this is the best week for it. | 10:03 |
| jbailey | But don't quote me. =) | 10:03 |
| jamesh | jbailey: apparently gmail doesn't | 10:03 |
| jbailey | Meh, really? | 10:04 |
| jamesh | I can filter launchpad bug mail with a query of "replyto:*@bugs.launchpad.net", but can't do anything with the X-Launchpad-Bug header | 10:05 |
| stub | jbailey: Plenty of server side filtering systems provided by ISPs don't allow filtering on arbitrary headers, or make it for advanced users only. | 10:05 |
| stub | Mine would allow me to do it, but it would involve me converting all my filters to a sieve script | 10:05 |
| carlos | stub: hi, I fixed the data migration script. Could you review it? | 10:06 |
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| carlos | stub: it took 3 hours in asuka | 10:07 |
| stub | k | 10:07 |
| stub | same branch? | 10:07 |
| carlos | yes | 10:07 |
| carlos | thanks | 10:07 |
| jordi | carlos: yes, I was pinging stevea last night to see if he had more info | 10:09 |
| jordi | carlos: amharic | 10:10 |
| carlos | ok | 10:10 |
| carlos | jordi: thanks | 10:10 |
| carlos | jordi: did you answer Slovenian and Arabic requests? | 10:12 |
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| jordi | I did arabic last night. | 10:13 |
| jordi | Slovenian, not sure. That's the newest, right? | 10:13 |
| jordi | er, actually I did Farsi | 10:13 |
| jordi | We've had a torrent of requests lately | 10:13 |
| jordi | I'll do arabic right now | 10:13 |
| carlos | jordi: ok, please, remember to send a copy to rosetta@launchpad.net so I'm sure that those requests are handled | 10:14 |
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| carlos | jordi: could you tell me the contact email address for the Amahric team? | 10:22 |
| carlos | jordi: teferra has his email hidden in launchpad | 10:22 |
| carlos | jordi: found | 10:23 |
| spiv | SteveA: your doctest bug is different to 267, actually | 10:24 |
| spiv | SteveA: it turns out it was my second guess, that I didn't even bother putting in my mail because it seemed too silly ;) | 10:24 |
| spiv | SteveA: Replace "...." with "..." and it works. | 10:25 |
| SteveA | that smells bad | 10:25 |
| SteveA | +1 for stub's idea of supporting [...] | 10:25 |
| spiv | Hmm, or maybe not. It makes a difference to this simplified test case, though... | 10:25 |
| jordi | carlos: there's an ubuntu arabic team already | 10:25 |
| jordi | but it's ubuntu-ar | 10:25 |
| jordi | ie, needs rename | 10:26 |
| SteveA | jordi: i have some renaming to do for you already, i think | 10:26 |
| jordi | yeah | 10:26 |
| jordi | Somali | 10:26 |
| carlos | jordi: don't rename any team without contacting the owner first, sometimes they want non ubuntu specific teams | 10:26 |
| carlos | jordi: in those cases, they should create the ubuntu-l10n-XX team and include the other as a subteam of it | 10:27 |
| jordi | well this is clearly "ubuntu-ar" | 10:27 |
| carlos | hmm | 10:27 |
| carlos | right ;-) | 10:27 |
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| compengi | hi | 11:47 |
| carlos | compengi: hi | 11:51 |
| compengi | i would like to ask | 11:53 |
| compengi | is the shipment of ubuntu free of charge or no | 11:54 |
| compengi | or i should pay for the shipment only | 11:58 |
| spiv | compengi: It's free: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq#head-7eef2db63e0a75424cdd663ee6f7b8eedcf19607 | 12:01 |
| compengi | even the shipment! | 12:01 |
| spiv | yep :) | 12:02 |
| compengi | did you start shipping this month? | 12:06 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders | 12:32 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 12:33 |
| mpt | The southern hemisphere is cold and should be avoided | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | good evening mpt | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | a nice chilly evening, isn't it? | 12:35 |
| mpt | hi ajmitch, where are you at the moment? | 12:35 |
| mpt | Dunners? | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | I'm sitting in my flat | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | in Dunedin | 12:35 |
| mpt | ah, cool | 12:35 |
| mpt | (literally) | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | quite :) | 12:35 |
| stub | Monsoon appears to have come early this year - a wet 27C | 12:36 |
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| mpt | ooh | 12:41 |
| sivang | yo mpt :-) | 12:44 |
| mpt | hi sivang :-) | 12:44 |
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| SteveA | jamesh: ping | 01:17 |
| jamesh | SteveA: pong | 01:17 |
| stub | carlos: The migration patch is much better, however in its current form will lock up rosetta for the entire run because it only commits at the end. | 01:17 |
| SteveA | jamesh: mdz mentioned a possible problem with the scheduler | 01:17 |
| SteveA | jamesh: "it seems to schedule topics which haven't been accepted for the meeting" | 01:18 |
| SteveA | would you look into it? | 01:18 |
| jamesh | okay | 01:18 |
| stub | carlos: Hmm... actually not that bad. | 01:18 |
| carlos | stub: hmm it's done per pofile... | 01:18 |
| stub | carlos: Yes - just realized that. So it will be 82000 odd commits over that 3 hours. I suspect we can run it live. | 01:19 |
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| stub | carlos: r=stub on the data migration and db patch | 01:20 |
| carlos | stub: ok, thanks | 01:23 |
| jamesh | SteveA: I think I've tracked it down. | 01:25 |
| jamesh | looks like the code for the export view is using the wrong enum to filter the list of specs it exports | 01:27 |
| stub | So we are growing Distribution.mirror_admin and Distribution.upload_admin. Is maintaining the Distribution in Launchpad so strenuous that these subtasks need to be delegated to individuals? | 01:27 |
| SteveA | jamesh: okay. so, that sounds like a small quick change in production | 01:28 |
| stub | If so, make sure it lands in Rockefuel too and I know the patch number - don't want to destroy any fixes with tomorrows rollout | 01:29 |
| stub | (Which reminds me - SteveA: I need to know what patch you are particularly interested in being landed unless it landed before Friday) | 01:30 |
| SteveA | r3695 | 01:30 |
| SteveA | r3696 | 01:30 |
| SteveA | both those | 01:30 |
| jamesh | SteveA: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileO8lkxa.html <- that's the fix | 01:30 |
| SteveA | jamesh: okay. please get it into RF. | 01:31 |
| SteveA | stub: would you rather cherrypick this fix from james this afternoon, or shall i just hack it in production and restart? | 01:32 |
| stub | SteveA: Just hack it into production. The appservers are live again on gangotri btw. (and being monitored again). | 01:33 |
| stub | erm... gandwana. | 01:33 |
| SteveA | ok | 01:33 |
| jamesh | that method used to take SprintSpecificationStatus enum values | 01:34 |
| SteveA | jamesh: okay, i applied that one line patch to production, and restarted | 01:35 |
| carlos | stub: btw, will you remember to execute that migration script when you do the rollout? is there any procedure to document it? | 01:36 |
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| jamesh | SteveA: so if mdz redownloads the meeting list the non-accepted specs shouldn't be listed | 01:36 |
| carlos | stub: Rosetta will start raising system errors if we forget to execute it | 01:36 |
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| SteveA | mpt: ping | 01:39 |
| stub | carlos: Maybe ;) | 01:39 |
| stub | carlos: Feel free to nag me to run it next Monday to fix most of it before the rollout. | 01:40 |
| carlos | ok ;-) | 01:44 |
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| compengi | where can i download linux software | 02:01 |
| compengi | for free | 02:01 |
| SteveA | compengi: try freshmeat.net | 02:02 |
| jordi | compengi: have you tried #ubuntu ? | 02:02 |
| compengi | as os? | 02:02 |
| jordi | as irc channel | 02:04 |
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| compengi | i've joined now | 02:06 |
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| SteveA | spiv: still around? | 02:12 |
| spiv | SteveA: yeah | 02:14 |
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| jbailey | I seem to be listed under "also notified" for bug 38636, how do I figure out why? | 02:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 38636 in qprocd "xfce4-mixer has a different orig.tar.gz to the one recorded in the Sources file" [Critical,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38636 | 02:16 |
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| spiv | jbailey: I think it's because you're subscribed to #34210 | 02:20 |
| spiv | jbailey: which is marked as being a duplicate. | 02:21 |
| Yannig | Hello everybody :) | 02:22 |
| jbailey | Ah! that would do it. | 02:22 |
| jbailey | spiv: Thanks! | 02:22 |
| SteveA | spiv: hello | 02:23 |
| SteveA | BjornT: ping | 02:29 |
| jordi | carlos: how's Paris? | 02:30 |
| carlos | jordi: I don't know ;-) | 02:31 |
| carlos | jordi: I will arrive tomorrow | 02:31 |
| sivang | carlos: we'll wait for you :) | 02:31 |
| carlos | sivang: :-P | 02:31 |
| jordi | oh :D | 02:32 |
| jordi | carlos: I think they have a metallic tower in the middle of the city | 02:32 |
| carlos | jordi: yeah, I know someone told me something about it.... | 02:33 |
| carlos | jordi: ;-) | 02:33 |
| BjornT | SteveA: pong | 02:33 |
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| SteveA | spiv: ping | 02:41 |
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| SteveA | BjornT: darn... race condition in the canHandle() hack | 03:29 |
| SteveA | BjornT: i can work around it with a thread.local | 03:31 |
| mdke | spiv: around? | 03:35 |
| spiv | mdke: yeah | 03:35 |
| mdke | spiv: yay. Karl needs your help with the wiki move script, can you give him a couple of minutes? | 03:35 |
| spiv | Sure. | 03:36 |
| mdke | thanks | 03:36 |
| mdke | Znarl: ^ | 03:37 |
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| flacoste | SteveA: ping | 04:34 |
| SteveA | hi francis | 04:34 |
| flacoste | hi Steve! | 04:34 |
| SteveA | you just caught me about to have a tea break | 04:34 |
| flacoste | i have a coding question and my reviewer (salgado) is offline | 04:34 |
| flacoste | it can wait after the tea break though | 04:35 |
| SteveA | you can ask on this channel and many people may be able to answer | 04:35 |
| flacoste | ok | 04:35 |
| SteveA | or, if it is about code that shouldn't be public, ask on the internal irc channel | 04:35 |
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| flacoste | in the TicketMakeBugView.process method I check that a ticket doesn't have already bugs linked to it and redirect with an error message if this is the case | 04:37 |
| flacoste | salgado suggested moving that check to initialize instead of leaving it in process() | 04:38 |
| SteveA | sure. why waste processing rendering the template and starting to process it? | 04:38 |
| SteveA | initialize() will be called before the template is even rendered | 04:39 |
| flacoste | because process() will still be called | 04:39 |
| SteveA | so that's a good time to do a redirect | 04:39 |
| flacoste | yes, but render() will still be called after initialize() | 04:39 |
| flacoste | LaunchpadView doesn't check if a redirection has taken place before calling render() | 04:39 |
| SteveA | ah, right | 04:39 |
| SteveA | it should do | 04:39 |
| flacoste | I should fix LaunchpadView then? | 04:40 |
| SteveA | yes. it's __call__ should call render() only if the status code is not 30x | 04:40 |
| SteveA | in the self.request.response | 04:40 |
| flacoste | ok | 04:41 |
| SteveA | do you agree with that as the way forward? | 04:41 |
| SteveA | cos i just made that stuff up from memory | 04:42 |
| SteveA | it might turn out to be wrong :-) | 04:42 |
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| flacoste | SteveA: yes, I agree, this is also the way GeneralEditForm does it | 04:56 |
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| flacoste | SteveA: care to review https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileoIG6Xl.html | 05:29 |
| flacoste | it's the LaunchpadView do not render on redirect fix | 05:29 |
| SteveA | flacoste: great. r=me | 05:30 |
| flacoste | tnx! | 05:30 |
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| carlos | later | 05:50 |
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| === flacoste has an error running pqm-submit | ||
| flacoste | bzr: ERROR: exceptions.ImportError: No module named urlutils | 06:09 |
| flacoste | at /home/francis/.bazaar/plugins/pqm-submit/pqm_submit.py line 11 | 06:09 |
| flacoste | line 11 has import bzrlib.urlutils | 06:09 |
| LarstiQ | urlutils is present in bzr.dev | 06:13 |
| LarstiQ | flacoste: what pqm are you using? | 06:13 |
| LarstiQ | or, pqm-submit rather | 06:13 |
| flacoste | http://bzr.arbash-meinel.com/plugins/pqm-submit/ | 06:14 |
| LarstiQ | and I guess there is no 0.8 release for that... | 06:14 |
| === flacoste got bzr-0.8.2-1ubuntu3 installed | ||
| === LarstiQ nods | ||
| LarstiQ | flacoste: the problem is the pqm-submit plugin you have depends on bzr.dev | 06:15 |
| flacoste | is there an older revision that would work? | 06:15 |
| LarstiQ | I'll have a look | 06:15 |
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| flacoste | how do I add my key to the PQM? | 06:48 |
| matsubara | flacoste: You need to ask lifeless to add it for you. Here's more complete instructions https://launchpad.canonical.com/PQMSetup | 06:51 |
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| stub | flacoste: chinstrap:~jamesh/bzr-pqm should work | 06:53 |
| stub | c/bzr-pqm/pqm-submit/ | 06:53 |
| flacoste | stub: is this a bazaar branch? | 06:54 |
| stub | flacoste: Yes. I got jamesh to push his branch earlier today as arbash-meinel.com was down | 06:55 |
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| flacoste | stub: thanks! that pqm-submit works | 07:00 |
| flacoste | lifeless: ping | 07:01 |
| lifeless | pong | 07:04 |
| flacoste | lifeless: I've send you my GPG key by email to robert.collins at canonical, can you add it to the PQM accepted keys? | 07:05 |
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| lifeless | is tomorrow morning ok? I want dinner | 07:07 |
| flacoste | lifless: yeah, no problem | 07:09 |
| flacoste | lifeless: yes, no problem, my first land can wait another day | 07:10 |
| flacoste | lifeless: enjoy your dinner, and sorry for the disturbance, I didn't noticed that you were in the australia time zone | 07:11 |
| LarstiQ | Europe timezone is more likely | 07:12 |
| flacoste | hmm, yes, otherwise he would take his dinner very late, but Kopete shows a IRC user coming from .au... | 07:13 |
| LarstiQ | flacoste: I assume he ircs via home, as I do. | 07:14 |
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| jordi | carlos: should we get the DB updated so you appear as the owner of XaraLX translators? | 07:17 |
| jordi | carlos: we're going to start gettign way too many appointment requests for this group | 07:17 |
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| flacoste | wow, | 09:14 |
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