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raphinkmalone #112:25
UbugtuMalone bug 1 in Baltix "Microsoft has a majority market share" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/112:25
raphinkdebian #1234512:25
raphinkdebian #234512:25
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raphink:(12:25
raphinkdebian 32683312:26
UbugtuDebian bug 326833 in kdelibs "Subject: kdelibs: KDE pseudoprinters do not work" [Normal,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/32683312:26
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Keybukanyone awake?02:30
crimsunspecifically?02:31
mjg59Yes02:32
BurgundaviaKeybuk: no, we are all living dead02:33
Keybukno, just in general02:33
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KeybukI wanted to see whether evil-binary-teamspeak-crap works02:34
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crimsunKeybuk: would love to test, but I'm horribly firewalled here.02:34
BurgundaviaKeybuk: teamspeak binary crap? got a download link, I can test it02:35
Burgundaviaisn't mark funding that somehow?02:35
Keybukhttp://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads&id=2a02:35
zuli have teamspeak installed but i dont have a mic02:37
Burgundaviagive me a sec02:37
zulyay...xen is building02:43
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BurgundaviaKeybuk: where are you?02:54
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Keybukteamspeak.uds.canonical.com02:55
Keybukor do you mean where, locality-wise?02:55
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BurgundaviaKeybuk: the latter. I am having issues my laptop, just a sec02:56
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KeybukParis,02:57
KeybukCDG02:57
Burgundaviaoh, yes, forgot completely about that02:58
tsenghi Burgundavia 02:58
Burgundaviahey tseng02:58
BurgundaviaKeybuk: sorry, just got crunched for time, so I will not able to help out with testing03:01
Keybukaww03:01
Burgundaviaspecifically, I am going out for dinner and lost track of time03:02
Keybukooh, anyone cute?03:04
Burgundaviamy ex, sadly03:06
Keybukaww03:08
Keybukwas that a yes?03:09
zuloh that must be fun03:11
tsengKeybuk: harsh03:12
Keybuk*shrug*03:12
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davfigueGood evening 04:33
davfiguecould anybody help with recovering /dev/eth0 ?04:37
Hobbseehi everyone04:38
davfiguehi04:39
Hobbseedavfigue: that's probably a question for #ubuntu and most of the devs are in paris at the moment - it's almost 5am there04:43
davfiguethanks04:43
RadiantFireHobbsee: did you get my e-mail back about the spazz's module-assistant is having with the ndiswrapper packages you gave me?04:43
HobbseeRadiantFire: indeed, i did.  that's weird, about how only one bit built, not both04:44
RadiantFireif i read the error right somewhere a version number in the dependency is wrong04:45
RadiantFirecuz when I just compile the module manually all works fine04:45
Hobbseeyeah, but when you compile the module manually, it only seems to do two files?  and this one outputted one? i'll have to see what it's doing there...04:46
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Hobbseeat least i dont have another exam for a full week!04:46
RadiantFirestill having exams?04:47
Hobbseeyes, i had one this morning04:48
davfigueHobbsee: this channel is for package developers, right ?04:49
Hobbseedavfigue: see the topic04:50
davfigueHobbsee: excuse me, I have a question, what I have to do to become a developer ?04:52
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Hobbseedavfigue: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate04:54
davfigueHobbsee: thanks !04:55
Hobbseedavfigue: not a problem04:55
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jdongis the edgy kernel still "dapper-compatible"?05:59
jdongfor the daring and reckless? ;)05:59
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Burgundaviatseng, Keybuk, that would be a yes06:10
crimsunjdong: to some degree, yes06:12
crimsunjdong: though if you're going to do that, you probably want to go Edgy wholescale in a vm06:12
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jsgotangcobonjour!!!08:19
ajmitch:P08:19
jsgotangcomonsiuer ajmitch!08:19
robitaillemonsieur :)08:19
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jsgotangcoheh08:20
Burgundaviahey jsgotangco08:20
jsgotangcohi08:20
jsgotangcoman we only have french outlets here08:20
jsgotangcoeuro plugs won't fit08:20
Hobbseeheya jsgotangco 08:20
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fabbionebella scott08:35
Keybukbella fabbione!08:35
fabbionehow is going?08:36
BurgundaviaKeybuk: you didn't tell me I was going to be testing QT crap. Bad enough that it is closed source08:36
BurgundaviaKeybuk: and yes, my ex is cute. :(08:36
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TheMusoMorning all.08:44
ajmitchhi TheMuso 08:44
fabbioneajmitch: please use your real name in TeamSpeak08:44
fabbioneHobbsee: the same please08:44
LaserJock_TheMuso: hi!08:44
ajmitchnew rules now?08:44
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Hobbseefabbione: i almost never go by my real name08:44
jsgotangcobye bye Player08:44
fabbionewhen you are face to face you don't call people by IRC name08:45
TheMusoHey LaserJock_. How was your flight?08:45
Mithrandirfabbione: I often do.08:45
LaserJock_TheMuso: long, and yours?08:45
TheMusoVery long.08:46
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ajmitchhey pitti 08:46
TheMusoTo top it of, my ffinal flight from Dubai was delayed.08:46
TheMusoHey ajmitch.08:46
ajmitchMithrandir: sorry I didn't stick around the other night08:46
fabbioneMithrandir: that's probably because of we already know each other 08:46
Hobbseefabbione: as you wish :)08:47
fabbioneHobbsee: thanks :)08:47
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fabbionenothing real will start before 1 hour and something08:47
fabbione13 minutes to start -> introduction ..etc.08:48
Hobbseeyes, when i'm at work08:48
Keybuksiretart: ping08:52
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netstarAnyone using powerpc and libxine and having issues?  I've found the cause but could do with some help.08:54
lifelessis the cuase libxine ?08:56
lifeless[I'm not a ppc user, can't help there] 08:56
SeveasKeybuk, is the ip address of the hotel fixed?08:56
KeybukSeveas: yes, could we get a "PLEASE DON'T K-LINE US" from the IRC people08:57
KeybukI tried last night but they were all away08:57
Seveasworking on iy08:57
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netstarthe cause is internal POWERPC assembly routines that are just broken09:01
netstarThough I can't fix them :P09:01
Mithrandirfabbione: you09:01
Mithrandirargh09:01
Mithrandiryou're clipping09:01
fabbioneMithrandir: probably better if use the talk on button09:01
fabbioneor whatever is called09:01
fabbioneotherwise each time somebody laughs you talk09:01
ajmitchpicking up a lot of background noise, too09:02
fabbioneyeah09:02
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fabbionei can hear Mark09:02
MithrandirI've increased the voice activation thingy.09:02
Seveashmm, I misread that as 'I can fear Mark' 09:02
Mithrandirfabbione: better now?09:02
ajmitchnow we get a couple of seconds of sabdfl09:03
Mithrandir(it ought to be, I've muted my mic)09:03
fabbioneMithrandir: yeah09:03
fabbioneMithrandir: but it's best if you enable the press to speak09:03
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fabbioneinstead of speak on voice09:03
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Mithrandirfabbione: that's going to be really, really annoying.  I'm running it through vmware09:04
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fabbioneMithrandir: i know, but it's equally annoying for all the others to hear all the noise09:04
shenki_is this audio being streamed for all to hear?09:05
Hobbseeshenki_: you can just join the server, and not speak...09:05
shenki_Hobbsee: where can we find details on that? (where the server is, what's happening when etc)09:06
Mithrandirshenki_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate09:07
netstarhow can I stop debuild making clean when rebuilding?09:08
SeveasKeybuk, k-lines should not happen and no one should be blocked, modulo some tidbits lilo is fixing up right now09:08
KeybukSeveas: thanks, and thank them for us09:08
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Mithrandirnetstar: debuild -nc09:08
shenki_Mithrandir: thankyou :) a few of us in #ubuntu-au were looking for a page such as that, it doesn't seem to be linked from anywhere though09:09
Mithrandirshenki_: it should be linked to from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis, but might not be there.09:10
shenki_Mithrandir: yeah, it's not there. thanks again.09:10
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Keybukfabbione: did you have approval from ubuntu-release for your dapper-updates upload?  (silo)09:19
fabbioneKeybuk: hem.. *cough*no*cough* but it fixes one of the 3 release KnownIssues left from dapper09:25
fabbioneKeybuk: so perhpas let's wait for mdz/Kamion to review before you reject09:26
Keybukfabbione: s'ok, I don't reject from unapproved unless it's specifically denied09:26
sivangmorning all09:27
fabbioneKeybuk: ok thanks.09:27
Keybukmostly people have approval, or have asked for it09:27
Keybukand in those cases, usually I don't get cc'd :p09:27
simiramorning sivang. Are you also in .fr?09:27
Keybukso I as09:27
Keybuk+k09:27
sivangsimira: yeah09:27
fabbioneKeybuk: no, i didn't have approval but the patch is trivial and it's a very good fix09:27
Keybukagree09:29
Seveasis noone talking on teamspeak or is my client misconfigured?09:30
siretartKeybuk: pong09:30
jsgotangcowe're just introducing specs atm09:30
netstarMithrandir: delayed thanks09:30
shenki_random guests on the teamspeak chanel are not allowed to talk, but is there a reason why we also have our 'headphones muted' set by the server?09:32
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Keybukhmm?09:32
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Keybukrandom guests should be allowed to talk09:33
Keybukif your icon is muted then your client thinks your microphone is muted09:33
shenki_okay. either way, I don't really have a need to talk, but i'd like to listen - and telling it to 'unmute' my headphones does nothing09:33
shenki_is that a problem on my end?09:34
HobbseeSeveas: no one's talking09:34
ajmitchshenki_: generally yes09:34
SeveasHobbsee, that explains the silence I get 09:34
HobbseeSeveas: quite possibly, yes :P09:34
Seveas silence is golden 09:34
ajmitchteamspeak is OSS only, so nothing else is allowed to be using /dev/dsp09:34
Seveasdennis@mirage:~/Desktop/ts2_client_rc2_2032$ lsof /dev/dsp | tail -n109:35
SeveasTeamSpeak 29515 dennis   19u   CHR   14,3      9127 /dev/dsp09:35
Mithrandirajmitch: unless your sound card does hardware mixing.09:35
ajmitchsadly mine doesn't09:35
ajmitchso I run TS on the laptop instead :)09:36
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Hobbseei think imbrandon found a way around that...09:36
Seveasyou can use a dsp hijacker09:37
shenki_hmm. everything is unmuted, and nothing is using /dev/dsp, any suggestions?09:37
Hobbseei would say "mute kde or equivalent sound" but you've probably done that09:39
Hobbseebye all!  back in a few hours...09:39
SeveasKinnison is blinking09:39
Seveasooh, I got sound from jsgotangco 09:40
imbrandonlol09:40
jsgotangcoackk sorry...my teamspeak was configured on alt gr09:40
TreenaksSeveas: you're writing a Free teamspeak replacement? :)09:40
Seveashell no09:40
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Seveasfabbione, !09:42
fabbioneyo yo09:42
jsgotangcothe extensions are all FR :(09:42
Seveasjsgotangco, local supermarket?09:42
jsgotangcowe're in the middle of nowhere haha09:42
LaserJock_heh, where's one of those?09:42
Seveasjsgotangco, hotel lobby?09:42
imbrandonSeveas, on _MY_ setup if you load apt-get install alsa-oss and then modprobe snd-pcm-oss it remaps /dev/dsp to alsa, works for me but not everyone seems to get it working that way09:42
jsgotangcoyou go out, you see a wheat field09:43
mswTreenaks: couldn't one just use an asterisk meet-me conference, then use one of many free VoIP clients?09:43
mswTreenaks: (regarding a free replacement)09:43
LaserJock_highvoltage and I took an bit of a walk when we got here to see if we could find a SIM card09:43
imbrandonmsw, thast what i was thinking09:43
Treenaksmsw: or jabber + that google voice thing + conference mode ?09:43
mswTreenaks: hmm... I'm not familiar with how they implemented it09:44
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jdub_msw: one of the desired features was flashy lights for the current speaker09:44
imbrandonVoIP isnt much good if we cant hear whats going on09:44
mswthe main problem with asterisk meet-me is echo cancellation (currently it's easy to get an echo chamber when you have tons of participants)09:44
mswjdub_: oh dude, there's an asterisk app for that I think09:45
jdub_msw: none of the free clients (that i have seen) include it09:45
imbrandonjdub there is an astrix app that does that09:45
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mswjdub_: I believe there are several -- one is proprietary I think.09:45
crimsunshenki_: I can assist in #ubuntu if you're still having issues09:45
jdub_msw: meanwhile, this works, and was driven by sabdfl09:46
shenki_crimsun: I just tried alsa-oss, i'll see how this goes. if not, cya in #ubuntu :)09:46
lifelesssfllaw: the spec name for the pluggable automated test framework is very uninformative - do you mind if I rename it 09:46
mswjdub_: just checking, the current app_conference (note not app_meetme) has speaker detection messages sent via the AMP (asterisk management protocl)09:46
jdub_msw: meanwhile, are you in atlas?09:47
mswjdub_: *nod* - I'm a big fan of using what works. ;-)09:47
mswjdub_: nope09:48
jdub_when are you getting in?09:48
sfllawlifeless: It's actually meant to be a collection point for information about deviations from expected behaviour.09:49
sfllawSo the name is pretty useful, if you're not implementing it.09:49
mswjdub_: I'm here...09:49
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jdub_oh09:49
jdub_why aren't you in atlas?09:49
jdub_oh09:49
mswjdub_: I'm sitting to the left of ian09:49
jdub_oh09:49
lifelesssfllaw: sounds like two specs to me - a infrastructure thing to build, and a process that will use it09:49
jdub_that's why i didn't see you09:50
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jdub_msw: going to guadec too?09:50
mswjdub_: I can't. :-(09:50
mswjdub_: going on vacation directly after I get back to Raleigh09:51
jdub_boh09:51
mswjdub_: yea, it's lame09:52
mswjdub_: but I had external schedule constraints (the so's vacation week)09:52
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simirajdub_: feel free to kidnap me for Paris :-/09:52
sfllawlifeless: We're not specing the process that will use it.  I figure people will use it in innovative fashions that we don't yet expect.09:53
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fabbioneso where is the schedule?10:06
mdzfabbione: I've no objection to silo for dapper-updates if you're confident in it10:08
mdzfabbione:  there is no schedule quite yet; we're just introducing all of the topics10:08
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fabbionemdz: yes i am confident with it. It has been tested also at SUN10:09
fabbionemdz: ok.. i will wait for it10:09
Keybukyou doj10:09
Keybukyou don't have to shout their name all the time ;)10:09
Keybuk(and gnargh, usual laptop "press enter when I mean backspace" issues)10:09
fabbioneKeybuk: ?10:09
Keybukfabbione: "Sun" would suffice, not10:09
Keybuk ___ _   _ _  _10:09
Keybuk\__ \ |_| | .` |10:09
Keybuk|___/\___/|_|\_|10:09
Keybukoh, bah10:10
siretartKeybuk: pong?10:10
fabbioneKeybuk: Sun != SUN ;)10:10
Keybuksiretart: who approved the upload of sysinfo10:10
siretartI was told that mdz approved it. 10:11
\shdo we have an UDS channel? 10:11
Keybuksiretart: do you have an e-mail from it?10:11
siretartI'm sorry, no10:12
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fabbioneKeybuk: no there was a discussion here in IRC friday i think10:12
siretartphanatic should have10:12
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siretartbut he's not around ATM10:12
lifelesssfllaw: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrExtendTestSuite10:14
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sfllawlifeless: Thanks.10:24
SeveasOUCH10:27
Seveaswho was that?10:27
Keybukjdub: http://www.circlemud.org/~jelson/software/fusd/10:32
KeybukGRUB2! FOR ALL EDGY ARCHITECTURES!10:35
Keybuk</mdz>10:35
mswhah10:35
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KinnisonCan everyone on teamspeak who is using one of the funky headsets here please ensure they're not near any mobile phones which are turned on. The dit dit dit dit does come through online and it'd be nice if we didn't end up recording it10:38
sivangKinnison: are we recording the spec presentation session ?10:41
\shsolution: switch of the mobile ;)10:41
Kinnisonsivang: I think that's the intention10:41
sivangKinnison: makes sense10:41
KeybukKinnison: what if you're using teamspeak, but the person next to you isn't and is using their mobile phone?10:42
KinnisonKeybuk: then murder them in cold blood10:42
sivanghehe10:42
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\shlol10:44
fabbionewhat happeed to team speak?10:44
fabbioneeverybody has been kicked out10:44
ajmitchit hurt my ears10:44
\shnetwork down in paris10:44
\shlooks like10:44
\shor port's closed10:44
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Seveashmm, conference dropped off the net11:17
simiraouch...11:17
simirawhat happened?11:17
ajmitchthey all died?11:18
simiraI hope not...11:19
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ajmitchseems like a few of them are still alive11:20
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FujitsuWhere'd everybody go?11:20
mswFujitsu: network failure11:21
mswFujitsu: just getting back online now11:21
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FujitsuEverybody on the same network? At UDS Paris?11:21
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mswFujitsu: I think there are a few ADSL lines, but everyone is currently in one room11:23
FujitsuAhh. That'd do it :(11:23
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TheMusoOk that was fun.11:24
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sivangsimira: we lost adsl for some minutes11:32
TheMusoAnybody here at the summit trying to send email to an smtp server? If so, how are you doing it I am being blocked from sending to a smtp server.11:33
LaserJockTheMuso:  I'm using gmail instead11:34
MithrandirTheMuso: works fine for me.11:34
Mithrandir220 vawad.err.no ESMTP Exim 4.60 Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:34:12 +020011:34
TheMusohmmm.11:34
LaserJockTheMuso: that is to say, I had a problem to so switched to gmail11:35
TheMusoOk then.11:36
TheMusoargh11:36
TheMusoI'd rater not change to gmail if I can help it.11:36
MithrandirTheMuso: follow the instructions on http://freerelay.err.no/ and you should be fine.  If you can't use port 25, use 2525 or 666711:40
TheMusoThanks.11:40
mdkeZnarl: dunno if it was you that fixed my email, but it's going to the right place now :) Thanks if you did!11:43
jsgotangcohi mdke11:43
mdkehi jerome11:44
pittimdz: do you want to approve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/rosetta-desktopfile-ui for Paris? or is that too late?11:44
mswhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-19/11:46
Znarlmdke : Was not fixed by my actions.  11:47
mdzpitti: will do11:57
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Riddellsivang: coming upstairs?12:00
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sivangRiddell: yeah, on my way - level 1 , which room?12:01
Riddellsivang: level 212:01
Riddellturn right12:02
sivangokay, see you there.12:02
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Riddelldoes gobby work?12:10
fabbioneRiddell: yeah12:10
Riddellwhat server?12:11
fabbionemake sure to use "Join Session" instead of "Create.."12:11
mdkeZnarl: oh well, must have fixed itself. :) chances of wiki love during Paris are slim I guess?12:11
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Riddellfabbione: what's the gobby server?12:16
fabbionegobby.uds.ubuntu.com12:16
Riddelldoesn't work from here12:16
Mithrandirwhat port?12:16
Riddell652212:16
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tsengWAUGH!12:38
jdub_HUH!12:38
jdub_GOOD LORD!12:38
Seveasjdub, you called?12:39
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Seveasehrm, no more teamspeak?01:18
ajmitchlunchtime!01:19
ajmitchmost people would have packed away their laptops & wandered off to grab food01:19
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HiddenWolfajmitch: rude, now we'll miss all the gossip. :)01:20
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ajmitchit's always the way..01:20
\shgossip: Chinese Food 01:23
\shevery day ;)01:23
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\shajmitch: yeah01:24
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sorenhEr... What happened to the session in Dionysos?02:08
fabbione?02:09
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sorenhfabbione: mvo and sivang just showed up, so now we're getting somewhere. I was all alone a second ago. :-D02:11
sorenhfabbione: Dionysos is one of the conference rooms.02:11
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fabbioneah ok02:11
sorenhEverybody know that. :-D02:12
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Hobbseehi all02:31
zulhi Hobbsee 02:31
raphinkhi Hobbsee02:31
_ionhi Hobbsee02:31
profoX`hi Hobbsee 02:32
FujitsuEvening, Hobbsee.02:32
Hobbseehey zul raphink _ion profoX` and Fujitsu 02:32
Hobbseewow02:32
Fujitsu?02:32
profoX`lol02:32
Hobbseelots of people saying hello02:32
profoX`we're a friendly bunch02:32
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Seveasbye Hobbsee 02:33
Hobbseeheh, bye Seveas :P02:33
FujitsuSilly developer summits... They leave this channel in a pile of rubble :(02:34
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jonohey02:35
Seveashi Jon O'Bacon ;)02:35
jonoSeveas, oi!02:35
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SeveasHobbsee, indeed02:35
fabbioneHobbsee: nah02:35
Seveasfabbione, via teamspeak that is02:35
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simiraFujitsu: whatdidyousay? ;p02:44
FujitsuGoodnight everybody!02:45
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msw502:51
mswdoh02:51
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raphinkquestion: if I request a rebuild for edgy because a package FTBFS because of the debhelper stuff03:11
raphinkshould version number be -Xbuild1 and distro be edgy ?03:11
ajmitchI think that packages will probably get thrown back at the buildds anyway03:11
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raphinkajmitch: ah?03:12
ajmitchthat's what usually happens if the build fails on all archs03:12
raphinkok 03:12
raphink:)03:12
raphinkhow about the ones marked as waiting dependencies ?03:13
ajmitchsame03:13
raphinkok, good :)03:13
Seveassivang, you're causing echo03:16
Seveassivang, please enable your mic only when speaking03:16
ajmitchdarn, should have told jsgotangco to go & 'sort out' sivang03:17
jjesseis there an echo ?03:17
Hobbseehehe03:17
ajmitchyes03:17
ajmitchecho & hum03:17
Hobbseewish everyone would get rid of the "new player" thing too...03:18
Hobbseeif they're playing with their systems :P03:18
imbrandonnah , this better be a good bounty for group voip lol03:19
imbrandonbah*03:19
Hobbseeheh03:19
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Hobbseeheya Keybuk 03:19
fabbioneKeybuk: hey dude.. wouldn't be a good idea to start closing old channels?03:19
fabbioneKeybuk: or make a rule that who create the chan gets to close it?03:20
fabbioneotherwise we will end up with 3948394831298349 chans03:20
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imbrandonare they all sharing sivang mic or something ?03:20
Keybukfabbione: meh, I go around and close them every now and then :p03:21
fabbioneok03:21
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shenkiteamspeak is fairly useless for anyone trying to follow along online, with only a couple of the speakers talking into it03:25
jjesseshenki: agreed, can barely hear anyone except mark03:26
Hobbseeshenki: the last session was better03:26
shenkijjesse: I think that sivang has their mic permantly on, and because of that we can *almost* hear what others are saying...but yeah, mark seems to be the only one using it03:26
shenkiwe'd be better off if there was a mic in the middle of the table/front of the room03:27
jjesselooks like sivang has turned off the mic now can't hear anything :(03:27
Hobbseejjesse: sivang quit :P03:27
jjesseah03:27
jjesseseems sort of pointless to try and follow online then03:27
Hobbseeah there we go03:28
shenki?03:28
jsgotangcowelll03:28
Hobbseewe did have him back for a bit :P03:28
shenkiah03:28
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shenkianyone who's in the room want to remind/ask people to talk into a mic?03:28
fabbioneshenki: just tell them in teamspeak03:29
fabbionethey will NOT kill you if you do so03:29
Hobbseefamous last words :P03:29
shenkifabbione: I don't have a mic with me03:29
fabbioneHobbsee: shhh :P03:29
jjesseme either03:29
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=== Hobbsee does, but doesnt want to speak.
fabbioneajmitch: ping?03:31
ajmitchpong03:31
ajmitchfabbione: what's up?03:31
fabbioneajmitch: can you read above please?03:32
fabbioneajmitch: about people not talking in the mix03:32
fabbionemic even03:32
ajmitchyes?03:32
fabbioneajmitch: can you please report it to the channel you are in ?03:33
Hobbsee(into teamspeak presumably)03:33
fabbionesince you are in the same channel as them03:33
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shenkiyes, that is a very quiet microphone there ajmitch :)03:34
ajmitchprobably some sound settings to tweak03:34
shenkiyay03:36
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makojdub_: has the issue with the irc stuff been resolved?03:42
makojdub_: lilo claims it has03:42
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theineThanks for fixing #50031 (at least for me) so quickly.03:51
sivangSeveas: yeah, I noticed it eventually, thanks :-/03:51
glatzor_mobilehi sivang: where are you?03:54
glatzor_mobileyou are not in atlas, right?03:54
glatzor_mobilei replied to mpt's proposal. perhaps we should use the time for the spec to collect use cases and possible workflows.03:55
desrtwow.  i just got a really confusing email from andrew morton03:56
desrtwhat to do -- http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/added-to-mm.txt03:57
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MezKamion: pingt04:22
MezKamion: ping *04:22
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Mithrandir__keybuk: got a second?04:43
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Mithrandir__keybuk: nm04:49
__keybukMithrandir: no04:50
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shayawhat does ubuntu use to intelligently partition a disk?05:00
shayaneed to do a similiar thing and wondering what I can use/reuse05:00
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ajmitchpitti! gcc-ssp now?05:05
pittiajmitch: yep05:05
ajmitchyou have teamspeak, or just gobby?05:05
pittiajmitch: I'm still alone on the table, though05:05
ajmitchok05:05
pittiajmitch: no TS, I'm on powerpc :/05:05
shayabtw, is it just me or do other people have locale problems in edgy?05:05
Hobbseepitti: easier to hear you speak that way :P05:05
ajmitchah :(05:05
Hobbseeoh05:05
pittishaya: known, locales are broken in edgy05:05
shayaok05:05
shayaworks, just perl is annoying :)05:05
ajmitchpitti: which gobby port are you on?05:06
pittiajmitch: 900405:06
=== fabbione heads offline
fabbionecya tomorrow05:07
ajmitchbye fabbione 05:07
Hobbseebye fabbione 05:07
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desrtwow.  edgy is fast.05:14
ajmitchhehe05:14
ajmitchfast to crash & burn?05:14
desrtfast from now until release05:14
desrtUVF is next month already05:15
ajmitchas the current spec suggests, at least05:15
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sladendesrt: that's just a bit too soon...05:21
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sivanganybody know if the common-customization BOF is taking place?05:30
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KinnisonYes05:31
KinnisonYou're not in it05:32
KinnisonI am05:32
sivangKinnison: but you don't seem to be talking at all :-) I was sure some more drafting / work on the release schedule is being done.05:32
Kinnisongobby 9001 / Common Customisations05:34
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\shoh god...you need a wired keyboard, to bind a bluetooth keyboard to the bluetooth dongle...strange IT world...05:37
Kinnisonheh05:38
sladen\sh: can't you just hold the button down;  and then the actual dongles also provide a USB HID interface so that the keyboard function should work even before bluetooth is brought up (eg. in the BIOS)05:46
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\shsladen: no..the keyboard lost the complete key06:02
\shsladen: it was on my office window pc06:02
\shsladen: and during bootup it doesn't work...06:03
sladen\sh: not even in the BIOS?06:06
KinnisonPeople wanting their spec reviewed should make sure the status in launchpad is set to 'review'06:07
KinnisonReviewers congregate in #uds-review06:08
\shsladen: no06:11
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yoschhi guys06:16
yoschquick question: is there an IRC channel alongside https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate ?06:16
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KinnisonWould at least one native english speaker like to join in the review process please on #uds-review?06:19
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ploumHello06:25
ploumI just packaged Rhythmbox 0.9.5 for dapper06:26
ploumcould someone point me to the transparent-tray-icon patch ?06:26
ploumfound it, sorry for the noise !06:28
yoschquick question about the summit schedule06:30
yoschif a session related to a particular spec appears on the current schedule, how do I participate remotely?06:31
yoschwhat gobby ports can I join? is there a irc channel set up?06:32
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yoscha session I'm particularly interesting in seems to be hapenning now and I'm not in Paris yet :-(06:34
diemanwhich session?06:34
yoschdieman: open-fonts in the Olympe room06:35
diemanhrm, im not actually down thre, so I dont know which gobby port they are using06:35
diemando you have the hostname from the participate page?06:35
diemanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate06:35
yoschdieman: hostname gobby.uds.ubuntu.com06:36
diemanproblem is i dont know what port either06:36
dieman9008 perhaps?06:36
yoschtrying06:36
diemanis anyone on teamspeak for that one?06:37
diemanyeah, they may not be using gobby or teamspeak on that one06:37
diemanits been sporradic06:37
yoschOK, who can I ping from the participants06:38
shenkiploum: would it be possible to grab rb 0.9.5 from you?06:40
yoschisn't the gobby port if it's used published somewhere?06:40
ploumshenki: http://ploum.fritalk.com/packages/06:40
shayadoes anyone know of a good way to have an x-widgit (controlled by a shell script) that shows that "work is being done" i.e. something that goes back and forth?06:40
shenkiyosch: if a session has been using gobby, they tend to announce it as the session starts, maybe over irc, maybe over teamspeek... it hasn't been readily available information :) (just as an observer)06:41
shenkiploum: cheers06:41
yoschmaybe I'm looking at the wrong schedule? 06:41
yoschshenki: over IRC, you mean in this channel or in another one?06:42
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shenkiyosch: generally this one. one session was hosted in #ubuntu-meeting. cross your fingers for those kind of details to be fine-tuned tomorrow06:43
yoschshenki: OK, got it. Thanks.06:44
yoschshenki: just a bit worried about missing some sessions that's all06:45
shenkiyeah. did you find the schedule page? it didn't seem to be followed exactly, but atleast it gives you an indication06:46
shenkiIt would have been nice if being subscribed to a spec in launchpad ment getting told/reminded about the corresponding session happening06:46
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yoschshenki: yes I saw the one on ~mdz 06:49
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KinnisonI've done as much review as my brain can cope with today06:58
KinnisonI'll do more tomorrow review session06:58
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KinnisonIf I've said something in a review of your spec which you don't understand or don't agree with, come and find me06:58
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Riddellmdz: is there a way to request priority for BoFs for tomorrow?06:58
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sladenmako: you signed a key just based on the key-id and not on the fingerprint07:02
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ploumshenki: wait ! I upload another version 07:08
ploum0.4.99 so it won't conflict when seb128 will package it itself ;-)07:09
ploumI also added the transparency-in-the-tray patch07:09
ploumhttp://ploum.fritalk.com/packages/07:09
shenkioh, okay. thanks07:09
shenkiis this a proper package, or...?07:10
ploumproper ?07:10
shenkiis it made with checkinstall?07:11
shenkialso, shouldnt you have the version -0ubuntu0?07:11
ploumI didn't make it witch checkinstall. I took the 0.9.4 of seb128 and upgraded the code source, deleted a non-needed patch and added the tray patch07:13
ploumnothing more07:13
ploum-0ubuntu0.. argh.. perhaps you are right07:14
ploumnot sure07:14
shenkioh well, it works, thanks :)07:18
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makosladen: what do you mean?07:59
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Burgworkfabbione, Keybuk: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/12/141822809:00
wasabiAnybody taken a look at iSCSI under Ubuntu? ie packaging sf.net/iscsi-linux?09:03
zulnot me09:03
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hughsiehey guys. Can I get some feedback from http://hughsient.livejournal.com/1906.html wrt to ubuntu please.09:12
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hughsieI want to know if edgy is going to run pm-utils and if the script runs okay.09:13
hughsiemjg59, i think this applies most to you, although I might be mistaken.09:13
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lilbigman80hi, maybe somebody in here has an idea. I just downloaded and installed the ubuntu 6.06 desktop version on a iBook g4. the installation went well but the system drops me a shell saying i do not have an root filesystem when booting. now i am using the live cd and can see /dev/hda but no /dev/hda[1-6]  with 5 as my root-partition. fdisk works fine on hda but there seem to be no mountable partitions... by the way i have a samsung hd 09:27
Burgworklilbigman80, please try #ubuntu as this is not a support channel09:28
lilbigman80ups, sorry. i am gone :)09:29
Burgworkno worries09:29
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mjg59hughsie: That's the plan09:30
mjg59But nothing's been done yet09:30
hughsiemjg59, gotcha. i guess you're waiting for a formal release, right?09:32
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mjg59More for me to have some time, I think :)09:34
hughsieyes :-) -- I guess we can catch up and grab a few beers a guadec, right?09:35
mjg59Sure09:35
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fabbioneso assuming xine crashes and mplayer tells me there is no audo and totem refuses to play this dvd..10:37
fabbionewhat other options do i have other than committing suicide?10:37
fabbionemplayer dvd:// to be specific10:38
fabbionemplayer radomfileimage does work10:38
shenkiwindows? :P10:38
fabbione /ignore shenki all10:38
fabbionefeh10:38
shenkiheh10:38
shenkithere's always vlc10:38
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Seveasfabbione, amarok?10:40
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Keybukfabbione: ogle10:40
fabbioneSeveas: i am not in kubuntu10:40
fabbioneKeybuk: point..10:40
Seveasfabbione, amarok reportedly works in gnome too 10:40
fabbioneSeveas: i am only trying to avoid to install few GB of extra libs if i can avoid it10:41
bluefoxicyI generally try to avoid qt10:41
SeveasNeed to get 25.6MB of archives.10:41
SeveasAfter unpacking 80.7MB of additional disk space will be used.10:41
Seveasnot nearly a GB ;)10:42
Keybukfabbione: it generally works for me where mplayer doesn't10:42
bluefoxicyamarok-xine10:42
bluefoxicylooks like it's a xine core10:42
fabbioneKeybuk: yeah i just couldn't remember all of the names :)10:43
fabbioneKeybuk: score.. thanks10:43
BurgworkKeybuk, fabbione did you see that linux.com wrote about your f1 tool?10:43
fabbioneBurgwork: yes thanks :)10:43
fabbioneit's MOVIE TIME!10:44
fabbionelater10:44
KeybukBurgwork: no?10:45
Keybukurl?10:45
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BurgworkKeybuk, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/12/141822810:46
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KeybukBurgwork: how curious ... they never bothered to contact me to say they'd written it :)11:02
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Keybukanyhoo, other things to do11:03
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crimsun...more initNG crack?11:22
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