[12:25] <raphink> malone #1
[12:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Baltix "Microsoft has a majority market share" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[12:25] <raphink> debian #12345
[12:25] <raphink> debian #2345
[12:25] <raphink> :(
[12:26] <raphink> debian 326833
[12:26] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 326833 in kdelibs "Subject: kdelibs: KDE pseudoprinters do not work" [Normal,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/326833
[02:30] <Keybuk> anyone awake?
[02:31] <crimsun> specifically?
[02:32] <mjg59> Yes
[02:33] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: no, we are all living dead
[02:33] <Keybuk> no, just in general
[02:34] <Keybuk> I wanted to see whether evil-binary-teamspeak-crap works
[02:34] <crimsun> Keybuk: would love to test, but I'm horribly firewalled here.
[02:35] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: teamspeak binary crap? got a download link, I can test it
[02:35] <Burgundavia> isn't mark funding that somehow?
[02:35] <Keybuk> http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads&id=2a
[02:37] <zul> i have teamspeak installed but i dont have a mic
[02:37] <Burgundavia> give me a sec
[02:43] <zul> yay...xen is building
[02:54] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: where are you?
[02:55] <Keybuk> teamspeak.uds.canonical.com
[02:55] <Keybuk> or do you mean where, locality-wise?
[02:56] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: the latter. I am having issues my laptop, just a sec
[02:57] <Keybuk> Paris,
[02:57] <Keybuk> CDG
[02:58] <Burgundavia> oh, yes, forgot completely about that
[02:58] <tseng> hi Burgundavia 
[02:58] <Burgundavia> hey tseng
[03:01] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: sorry, just got crunched for time, so I will not able to help out with testing
[03:01] <Keybuk> aww
[03:02] <Burgundavia> specifically, I am going out for dinner and lost track of time
[03:04] <Keybuk> ooh, anyone cute?
[03:06] <Burgundavia> my ex, sadly
[03:08] <Keybuk> aww
[03:09] <Keybuk> was that a yes?
[03:11] <zul> oh that must be fun
[03:12] <tseng> Keybuk: harsh
[03:12] <Keybuk> *shrug*
[04:33] <davfigue> Good evening 
[04:37] <davfigue> could anybody help with recovering /dev/eth0 ?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> hi everyone
[04:39] <davfigue> hi
[04:43] <Hobbsee> davfigue: that's probably a question for #ubuntu and most of the devs are in paris at the moment - it's almost 5am there
[04:43] <davfigue> thanks
[04:43] <RadiantFire> Hobbsee: did you get my e-mail back about the spazz's module-assistant is having with the ndiswrapper packages you gave me?
[04:44] <Hobbsee> RadiantFire: indeed, i did.  that's weird, about how only one bit built, not both
[04:45] <RadiantFire> if i read the error right somewhere a version number in the dependency is wrong
[04:45] <RadiantFire> cuz when I just compile the module manually all works fine
[04:46] <Hobbsee> yeah, but when you compile the module manually, it only seems to do two files?  and this one outputted one? i'll have to see what it's doing there...
[04:46] <Hobbsee> at least i dont have another exam for a full week!
[04:47] <RadiantFire> still having exams?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> yes, i had one this morning
[04:49] <davfigue> Hobbsee: this channel is for package developers, right ?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> davfigue: see the topic
[04:52] <davfigue> Hobbsee: excuse me, I have a question, what I have to do to become a developer ?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> davfigue: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[04:55] <davfigue> Hobbsee: thanks !
[04:55] <Hobbsee> davfigue: not a problem
[05:59] <jdong> is the edgy kernel still "dapper-compatible"?
[05:59] <jdong> for the daring and reckless? ;)
[06:10] <Burgundavia> tseng, Keybuk, that would be a yes
[06:12] <crimsun> jdong: to some degree, yes
[06:12] <crimsun> jdong: though if you're going to do that, you probably want to go Edgy wholescale in a vm
[08:19] <jsgotangco> bonjour!!!
[08:19] <ajmitch> :P
[08:19] <jsgotangco> monsiuer ajmitch!
[08:19] <robitaille> monsieur :)
[08:20] <jsgotangco> heh
[08:20] <Burgundavia> hey jsgotangco
[08:20] <jsgotangco> hi
[08:20] <jsgotangco> man we only have french outlets here
[08:20] <jsgotangco> euro plugs won't fit
[08:20] <Hobbsee> heya jsgotangco 
[08:35] <fabbione> bella scott
[08:35] <Keybuk> bella fabbione!
[08:36] <fabbione> how is going?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: you didn't tell me I was going to be testing QT crap. Bad enough that it is closed source
[08:36] <Burgundavia> Keybuk: and yes, my ex is cute. :(
[08:44] <TheMuso> Morning all.
[08:44] <ajmitch> hi TheMuso 
[08:44] <fabbione> ajmitch: please use your real name in TeamSpeak
[08:44] <fabbione> Hobbsee: the same please
[08:44] <LaserJock_> TheMuso: hi!
[08:44] <ajmitch> new rules now?
[08:44] <Hobbsee> fabbione: i almost never go by my real name
[08:44] <jsgotangco> bye bye Player
[08:45] <fabbione> when you are face to face you don't call people by IRC name
[08:45] <TheMuso> Hey LaserJock_. How was your flight?
[08:45] <Mithrandir> fabbione: I often do.
[08:45] <LaserJock_> TheMuso: long, and yours?
[08:46] <TheMuso> Very long.
[08:46] <ajmitch> hey pitti 
[08:46] <TheMuso> To top it of, my ffinal flight from Dubai was delayed.
[08:46] <TheMuso> Hey ajmitch.
[08:46] <ajmitch> Mithrandir: sorry I didn't stick around the other night
[08:46] <fabbione> Mithrandir: that's probably because of we already know each other 
[08:47] <Hobbsee> fabbione: as you wish :)
[08:47] <fabbione> Hobbsee: thanks :)
[08:47] <fabbione> nothing real will start before 1 hour and something
[08:48] <fabbione> 13 minutes to start -> introduction ..etc.
[08:48] <Hobbsee> yes, when i'm at work
[08:52] <Keybuk> siretart: ping
[08:54] <netstar> Anyone using powerpc and libxine and having issues?  I've found the cause but could do with some help.
[08:56] <lifeless> is the cuase libxine ?
[08:56] <lifeless> [I'm not a ppc user, can't help there] 
[08:56] <Seveas> Keybuk, is the ip address of the hotel fixed?
[08:57] <Keybuk> Seveas: yes, could we get a "PLEASE DON'T K-LINE US" from the IRC people
[08:57] <Keybuk> I tried last night but they were all away
[08:57] <Seveas> working on iy
[09:01] <netstar> the cause is internal POWERPC assembly routines that are just broken
[09:01] <netstar> Though I can't fix them :P
[09:01] <Mithrandir> fabbione: you
[09:01] <Mithrandir> argh
[09:01] <Mithrandir> you're clipping
[09:01] <fabbione> Mithrandir: probably better if use the talk on button
[09:01] <fabbione> or whatever is called
[09:01] <fabbione> otherwise each time somebody laughs you talk
[09:02] <ajmitch> picking up a lot of background noise, too
[09:02] <fabbione> yeah
[09:02] <fabbione> i can hear Mark
[09:02] <Mithrandir> I've increased the voice activation thingy.
[09:02] <Seveas> hmm, I misread that as 'I can fear Mark' 
[09:02] <Mithrandir> fabbione: better now?
[09:03] <ajmitch> now we get a couple of seconds of sabdfl
[09:03] <Mithrandir> (it ought to be, I've muted my mic)
[09:03] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yeah
[09:03] <fabbione> Mithrandir: but it's best if you enable the press to speak
[09:03] <fabbione> instead of speak on voice
[09:04] <Mithrandir> fabbione: that's going to be really, really annoying.  I'm running it through vmware
[09:04] <fabbione> Mithrandir: i know, but it's equally annoying for all the others to hear all the noise
[09:05] <shenki_> is this audio being streamed for all to hear?
[09:05] <Hobbsee> shenki_: you can just join the server, and not speak...
[09:06] <shenki_> Hobbsee: where can we find details on that? (where the server is, what's happening when etc)
[09:07] <Mithrandir> shenki_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate
[09:08] <netstar> how can I stop debuild making clean when rebuilding?
[09:08] <Seveas> Keybuk, k-lines should not happen and no one should be blocked, modulo some tidbits lilo is fixing up right now
[09:08] <Keybuk> Seveas: thanks, and thank them for us
[09:08] <Mithrandir> netstar: debuild -nc
[09:09] <shenki_> Mithrandir: thankyou :) a few of us in #ubuntu-au were looking for a page such as that, it doesn't seem to be linked from anywhere though
[09:10] <Mithrandir> shenki_: it should be linked to from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis, but might not be there.
[09:10] <shenki_> Mithrandir: yeah, it's not there. thanks again.
[09:19] <Keybuk> fabbione: did you have approval from ubuntu-release for your dapper-updates upload?  (silo)
[09:25] <fabbione> Keybuk: hem.. *cough*no*cough* but it fixes one of the 3 release KnownIssues left from dapper
[09:26] <fabbione> Keybuk: so perhpas let's wait for mdz/Kamion to review before you reject
[09:26] <Keybuk> fabbione: s'ok, I don't reject from unapproved unless it's specifically denied
[09:27] <sivang> morning all
[09:27] <fabbione> Keybuk: ok thanks.
[09:27] <Keybuk> mostly people have approval, or have asked for it
[09:27] <Keybuk> and in those cases, usually I don't get cc'd :p
[09:27] <simira> morning sivang. Are you also in .fr?
[09:27] <Keybuk> so I as
[09:27] <Keybuk> +k
[09:27] <sivang> simira: yeah
[09:27] <fabbione> Keybuk: no, i didn't have approval but the patch is trivial and it's a very good fix
[09:29] <Keybuk> agree
[09:30] <Seveas> is noone talking on teamspeak or is my client misconfigured?
[09:30] <siretart> Keybuk: pong
[09:30] <jsgotangco> we're just introducing specs atm
[09:30] <netstar> Mithrandir: delayed thanks
[09:32] <shenki_> random guests on the teamspeak chanel are not allowed to talk, but is there a reason why we also have our 'headphones muted' set by the server?
[09:32] <Keybuk> hmm?
[09:33] <Keybuk> random guests should be allowed to talk
[09:33] <Keybuk> if your icon is muted then your client thinks your microphone is muted
[09:33] <shenki_> okay. either way, I don't really have a need to talk, but i'd like to listen - and telling it to 'unmute' my headphones does nothing
[09:34] <shenki_> is that a problem on my end?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> Seveas: no one's talking
[09:34] <ajmitch> shenki_: generally yes
[09:34] <Seveas> Hobbsee, that explains the silence I get 
[09:34] <Hobbsee> Seveas: quite possibly, yes :P
[09:34] <Seveas>  silence is golden 
[09:34] <ajmitch> teamspeak is OSS only, so nothing else is allowed to be using /dev/dsp
[09:35] <Seveas> dennis@mirage:~/Desktop/ts2_client_rc2_2032$ lsof /dev/dsp | tail -n1
[09:35] <Seveas> TeamSpeak 29515 dennis   19u   CHR   14,3      9127 /dev/dsp
[09:35] <Mithrandir> ajmitch: unless your sound card does hardware mixing.
[09:35] <ajmitch> sadly mine doesn't
[09:36] <ajmitch> so I run TS on the laptop instead :)
[09:36] <Hobbsee> i think imbrandon found a way around that...
[09:37] <Seveas> you can use a dsp hijacker
[09:37] <shenki_> hmm. everything is unmuted, and nothing is using /dev/dsp, any suggestions?
[09:39] <Hobbsee> i would say "mute kde or equivalent sound" but you've probably done that
[09:39] <Hobbsee> bye all!  back in a few hours...
[09:39] <Seveas> Kinnison is blinking
[09:40] <Seveas> ooh, I got sound from jsgotangco 
[09:40] <imbrandon> lol
[09:40] <jsgotangco> ackk sorry...my teamspeak was configured on alt gr
[09:40] <Treenaks> Seveas: you're writing a Free teamspeak replacement? :)
[09:40] <Seveas> hell no
[09:42] <Seveas> fabbione, !
[09:42] <fabbione> yo yo
[09:42] <jsgotangco> the extensions are all FR :(
[09:42] <Seveas> jsgotangco, local supermarket?
[09:42] <jsgotangco> we're in the middle of nowhere haha
[09:42] <LaserJock_> heh, where's one of those?
[09:42] <Seveas> jsgotangco, hotel lobby?
[09:42] <imbrandon> Seveas, on _MY_ setup if you load apt-get install alsa-oss and then modprobe snd-pcm-oss it remaps /dev/dsp to alsa, works for me but not everyone seems to get it working that way
[09:43] <jsgotangco> you go out, you see a wheat field
[09:43] <msw> Treenaks: couldn't one just use an asterisk meet-me conference, then use one of many free VoIP clients?
[09:43] <msw> Treenaks: (regarding a free replacement)
[09:43] <LaserJock_> highvoltage and I took an bit of a walk when we got here to see if we could find a SIM card
[09:43] <imbrandon> msw, thast what i was thinking
[09:43] <Treenaks> msw: or jabber + that google voice thing + conference mode ?
[09:44] <msw> Treenaks: hmm... I'm not familiar with how they implemented it
[09:44] <jdub_> msw: one of the desired features was flashy lights for the current speaker
[09:44] <imbrandon> VoIP isnt much good if we cant hear whats going on
[09:44] <msw> the main problem with asterisk meet-me is echo cancellation (currently it's easy to get an echo chamber when you have tons of participants)
[09:45] <msw> jdub_: oh dude, there's an asterisk app for that I think
[09:45] <jdub_> msw: none of the free clients (that i have seen) include it
[09:45] <imbrandon> jdub there is an astrix app that does that
[09:45] <msw> jdub_: I believe there are several -- one is proprietary I think.
[09:45] <crimsun> shenki_: I can assist in #ubuntu if you're still having issues
[09:46] <jdub_> msw: meanwhile, this works, and was driven by sabdfl
[09:46] <shenki_> crimsun: I just tried alsa-oss, i'll see how this goes. if not, cya in #ubuntu :)
[09:46] <lifeless> sfllaw: the spec name for the pluggable automated test framework is very uninformative - do you mind if I rename it 
[09:46] <msw> jdub_: just checking, the current app_conference (note not app_meetme) has speaker detection messages sent via the AMP (asterisk management protocl)
[09:47] <jdub_> msw: meanwhile, are you in atlas?
[09:47] <msw> jdub_: *nod* - I'm a big fan of using what works. ;-)
[09:48] <msw> jdub_: nope
[09:48] <jdub_> when are you getting in?
[09:49] <sfllaw> lifeless: It's actually meant to be a collection point for information about deviations from expected behaviour.
[09:49] <sfllaw> So the name is pretty useful, if you're not implementing it.
[09:49] <msw> jdub_: I'm here...
[09:49] <jdub_> oh
[09:49] <jdub_> why aren't you in atlas?
[09:49] <jdub_> oh
[09:49] <msw> jdub_: I'm sitting to the left of ian
[09:49] <jdub_> oh
[09:49] <lifeless> sfllaw: sounds like two specs to me - a infrastructure thing to build, and a process that will use it
[09:50] <jdub_> that's why i didn't see you
[09:50] <jdub_> msw: going to guadec too?
[09:50] <msw> jdub_: I can't. :-(
[09:51] <msw> jdub_: going on vacation directly after I get back to Raleigh
[09:51] <jdub_> boh
[09:52] <msw> jdub_: yea, it's lame
[09:52] <msw> jdub_: but I had external schedule constraints (the so's vacation week)
[09:52] <simira> jdub_: feel free to kidnap me for Paris :-/
[09:53] <sfllaw> lifeless: We're not specing the process that will use it.  I figure people will use it in innovative fashions that we don't yet expect.
[10:06] <fabbione> so where is the schedule?
[10:08] <mdz> fabbione: I've no objection to silo for dapper-updates if you're confident in it
[10:08] <mdz> fabbione:  there is no schedule quite yet; we're just introducing all of the topics
[10:09] <fabbione> mdz: yes i am confident with it. It has been tested also at SUN
[10:09] <fabbione> mdz: ok.. i will wait for it
[10:09] <Keybuk> you doj
[10:09] <Keybuk> you don't have to shout their name all the time ;)
[10:09] <Keybuk> (and gnargh, usual laptop "press enter when I mean backspace" issues)
[10:09] <fabbione> Keybuk: ?
[10:09] <Keybuk> fabbione: "Sun" would suffice, not
[10:09] <Keybuk>  ___ _   _ _  _
[10:09] <Keybuk> \__ \ |_| | .` |
[10:09] <Keybuk> |___/\___/|_|\_|
[10:10] <Keybuk> oh, bah
[10:10] <siretart> Keybuk: pong?
[10:10] <fabbione> Keybuk: Sun != SUN ;)
[10:10] <Keybuk> siretart: who approved the upload of sysinfo
[10:11] <siretart> I was told that mdz approved it. 
[10:11] <\sh> do we have an UDS channel? 
[10:11] <Keybuk> siretart: do you have an e-mail from it?
[10:12] <siretart> I'm sorry, no
[10:12] <fabbione> Keybuk: no there was a discussion here in IRC friday i think
[10:12] <siretart> phanatic should have
[10:12] <siretart> but he's not around ATM
[10:14] <lifeless> sfllaw: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrExtendTestSuite
[10:24] <sfllaw> lifeless: Thanks.
[10:27] <Seveas> OUCH
[10:27] <Seveas> who was that?
[10:32] <Keybuk> jdub: http://www.circlemud.org/~jelson/software/fusd/
[10:35] <Keybuk> GRUB2! FOR ALL EDGY ARCHITECTURES!
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[10:35] <msw> hah
[10:38] <Kinnison> Can everyone on teamspeak who is using one of the funky headsets here please ensure they're not near any mobile phones which are turned on. The dit dit dit dit does come through online and it'd be nice if we didn't end up recording it
[10:41] <sivang> Kinnison: are we recording the spec presentation session ?
[10:41] <\sh> solution: switch of the mobile ;)
[10:41] <Kinnison> sivang: I think that's the intention
[10:41] <sivang> Kinnison: makes sense
[10:42] <Keybuk> Kinnison: what if you're using teamspeak, but the person next to you isn't and is using their mobile phone?
[10:42] <Kinnison> Keybuk: then murder them in cold blood
[10:42] <sivang> hehe
[10:44] <\sh> lol
[10:44] <fabbione> what happeed to team speak?
[10:44] <fabbione> everybody has been kicked out
[10:44] <ajmitch> it hurt my ears
[10:44] <\sh> network down in paris
[10:44] <\sh> looks like
[10:44] <\sh> or port's closed
[11:17] <Seveas> hmm, conference dropped off the net
[11:17] <simira> ouch...
[11:17] <simira> what happened?
[11:18] <ajmitch> they all died?
[11:19] <simira> I hope not...
[11:20] <ajmitch> seems like a few of them are still alive
[11:20] <Fujitsu> Where'd everybody go?
[11:21] <msw> Fujitsu: network failure
[11:21] <msw> Fujitsu: just getting back online now
[11:21] <Fujitsu> Everybody on the same network? At UDS Paris?
[11:23] <msw> Fujitsu: I think there are a few ADSL lines, but everyone is currently in one room
[11:23] <Fujitsu> Ahh. That'd do it :(
[11:24] <TheMuso> Ok that was fun.
[11:32] <sivang> simira: we lost adsl for some minutes
[11:33] <TheMuso> Anybody here at the summit trying to send email to an smtp server? If so, how are you doing it I am being blocked from sending to a smtp server.
[11:34] <LaserJock> TheMuso:  I'm using gmail instead
[11:34] <Mithrandir> TheMuso: works fine for me.
[11:34] <Mithrandir> 220 vawad.err.no ESMTP Exim 4.60 Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:34:12 +0200
[11:34] <TheMuso> hmmm.
[11:35] <LaserJock> TheMuso: that is to say, I had a problem to so switched to gmail
[11:36] <TheMuso> Ok then.
[11:36] <TheMuso> argh
[11:36] <TheMuso> I'd rater not change to gmail if I can help it.
[11:40] <Mithrandir> TheMuso: follow the instructions on http://freerelay.err.no/ and you should be fine.  If you can't use port 25, use 2525 or 6667
[11:40] <TheMuso> Thanks.
[11:43] <mdke> Znarl: dunno if it was you that fixed my email, but it's going to the right place now :) Thanks if you did!
[11:43] <jsgotangco> hi mdke
[11:44] <mdke> hi jerome
[11:44] <pitti> mdz: do you want to approve https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/rosetta-desktopfile-ui for Paris? or is that too late?
[11:46] <msw> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-19/
[11:47] <Znarl> mdke : Was not fixed by my actions.  
[11:57] <mdz> pitti: will do
[12:00] <Riddell> sivang: coming upstairs?
[12:01] <sivang> Riddell: yeah, on my way - level 1 , which room?
[12:01] <Riddell> sivang: level 2
[12:02] <Riddell> turn right
[12:02] <sivang> okay, see you there.
[12:10] <Riddell> does gobby work?
[12:10] <fabbione> Riddell: yeah
[12:11] <Riddell> what server?
[12:11] <fabbione> make sure to use "Join Session" instead of "Create.."
[12:11] <mdke> Znarl: oh well, must have fixed itself. :) chances of wiki love during Paris are slim I guess?
[12:16] <Riddell> fabbione: what's the gobby server?
[12:16] <fabbione> gobby.uds.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <Riddell> doesn't work from here
[12:16] <Mithrandir> what port?
[12:16] <Riddell> 6522
[12:38] <tseng> WAUGH!
[12:38] <jdub_> HUH!
[12:38] <jdub_> GOOD LORD!
[12:39] <Seveas> jdub, you called?
[01:18] <Seveas> ehrm, no more teamspeak?
[01:19] <ajmitch> lunchtime!
[01:19] <ajmitch> most people would have packed away their laptops & wandered off to grab food
[01:20] <HiddenWolf> ajmitch: rude, now we'll miss all the gossip. :)
[01:20] <ajmitch> it's always the way..
[01:23] <\sh> gossip: Chinese Food 
[01:23] <\sh> every day ;)
[01:24] <\sh> ajmitch: yeah
[02:08] <sorenh> Er... What happened to the session in Dionysos?
[02:09] <fabbione> ?
[02:11] <sorenh> fabbione: mvo and sivang just showed up, so now we're getting somewhere. I was all alone a second ago. :-D
[02:11] <sorenh> fabbione: Dionysos is one of the conference rooms.
[02:11] <fabbione> ah ok
[02:12] <sorenh> Everybody know that. :-D
[02:31] <Hobbsee> hi all
[02:31] <zul> hi Hobbsee 
[02:31] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[02:31] <_ion> hi Hobbsee
[02:32] <profoX`> hi Hobbsee 
[02:32] <Fujitsu> Evening, Hobbsee.
[02:32] <Hobbsee> hey zul raphink _ion profoX` and Fujitsu 
[02:32] <Hobbsee> wow
[02:32] <Fujitsu> ?
[02:32] <profoX`> lol
[02:32] <Hobbsee> lots of people saying hello
[02:32] <profoX`> we're a friendly bunch
[02:33] <Seveas> bye Hobbsee 
[02:33] <Hobbsee> heh, bye Seveas :P
[02:34] <Fujitsu> Silly developer summits... They leave this channel in a pile of rubble :(
[02:35] <jono> hey
[02:35] <Seveas> hi Jon O'Bacon ;)
[02:35] <jono> Seveas, oi!
[02:35] <Seveas> Hobbsee, indeed
[02:35] <fabbione> Hobbsee: nah
[02:35] <Seveas> fabbione, via teamspeak that is
[02:44] <simira> Fujitsu: whatdidyousay? ;p
[02:45] <Fujitsu> Goodnight everybody!
[02:51] <msw> 5
[02:51] <msw> doh
[03:11] <raphink> question: if I request a rebuild for edgy because a package FTBFS because of the debhelper stuff
[03:11] <raphink> should version number be -Xbuild1 and distro be edgy ?
[03:11] <ajmitch> I think that packages will probably get thrown back at the buildds anyway
[03:12] <raphink> ajmitch: ah?
[03:12] <ajmitch> that's what usually happens if the build fails on all archs
[03:12] <raphink> ok 
[03:12] <raphink> :)
[03:13] <raphink> how about the ones marked as waiting dependencies ?
[03:13] <ajmitch> same
[03:13] <raphink> ok, good :)
[03:16] <Seveas> sivang, you're causing echo
[03:16] <Seveas> sivang, please enable your mic only when speaking
[03:17] <ajmitch> darn, should have told jsgotangco to go & 'sort out' sivang
[03:17] <jjesse> is there an echo ?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:17] <ajmitch> yes
[03:17] <ajmitch> echo & hum
[03:18] <Hobbsee> wish everyone would get rid of the "new player" thing too...
[03:18] <Hobbsee> if they're playing with their systems :P
[03:19] <imbrandon> nah , this better be a good bounty for group voip lol
[03:19] <imbrandon> bah*
[03:19] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:19] <Hobbsee> heya Keybuk 
[03:19] <fabbione> Keybuk: hey dude.. wouldn't be a good idea to start closing old channels?
[03:20] <fabbione> Keybuk: or make a rule that who create the chan gets to close it?
[03:20] <fabbione> otherwise we will end up with 3948394831298349 chans
[03:20] <imbrandon> are they all sharing sivang mic or something ?
[03:21] <Keybuk> fabbione: meh, I go around and close them every now and then :p
[03:21] <fabbione> ok
[03:25] <shenki> teamspeak is fairly useless for anyone trying to follow along online, with only a couple of the speakers talking into it
[03:26] <jjesse> shenki: agreed, can barely hear anyone except mark
[03:26] <Hobbsee> shenki: the last session was better
[03:26] <shenki> jjesse: I think that sivang has their mic permantly on, and because of that we can *almost* hear what others are saying...but yeah, mark seems to be the only one using it
[03:27] <shenki> we'd be better off if there was a mic in the middle of the table/front of the room
[03:27] <jjesse> looks like sivang has turned off the mic now can't hear anything :(
[03:27] <Hobbsee> jjesse: sivang quit :P
[03:27] <jjesse> ah
[03:27] <jjesse> seems sort of pointless to try and follow online then
[03:28] <Hobbsee> ah there we go
[03:28] <shenki> ?
[03:28] <jsgotangco> welll
[03:28] <Hobbsee> we did have him back for a bit :P
[03:28] <shenki> ah
[03:28] <shenki> anyone who's in the room want to remind/ask people to talk into a mic?
[03:29] <fabbione> shenki: just tell them in teamspeak
[03:29] <fabbione> they will NOT kill you if you do so
[03:29] <Hobbsee> famous last words :P
[03:29] <shenki> fabbione: I don't have a mic with me
[03:29] <fabbione> Hobbsee: shhh :P
[03:29] <jjesse> me either
[03:31] <fabbione> ajmitch: ping?
[03:31] <ajmitch> pong
[03:31] <ajmitch> fabbione: what's up?
[03:32] <fabbione> ajmitch: can you read above please?
[03:32] <fabbione> ajmitch: about people not talking in the mix
[03:32] <fabbione> mic even
[03:32] <ajmitch> yes?
[03:33] <fabbione> ajmitch: can you please report it to the channel you are in ?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> (into teamspeak presumably)
[03:33] <fabbione> since you are in the same channel as them
[03:34] <shenki> yes, that is a very quiet microphone there ajmitch :)
[03:34] <ajmitch> probably some sound settings to tweak
[03:36] <shenki> yay
[03:42] <mako> jdub_: has the issue with the irc stuff been resolved?
[03:42] <mako> jdub_: lilo claims it has
[03:51] <theine> Thanks for fixing #50031 (at least for me) so quickly.
[03:51] <sivang> Seveas: yeah, I noticed it eventually, thanks :-/
[03:54] <glatzor_mobile> hi sivang: where are you?
[03:54] <glatzor_mobile> you are not in atlas, right?
[03:55] <glatzor_mobile> i replied to mpt's proposal. perhaps we should use the time for the spec to collect use cases and possible workflows.
[03:56] <desrt> wow.  i just got a really confusing email from andrew morton
[03:57] <desrt> what to do -- http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/added-to-mm.txt
[04:22] <Mez> Kamion: pingt
[04:22] <Mez> Kamion: ping *
[04:43] <Mithrandir> __keybuk: got a second?
[04:49] <Mithrandir> __keybuk: nm
[04:50] <__keybuk> Mithrandir: no
[05:00] <shaya> what does ubuntu use to intelligently partition a disk?
[05:00] <shaya> need to do a similiar thing and wondering what I can use/reuse
[05:05] <ajmitch> pitti! gcc-ssp now?
[05:05] <pitti> ajmitch: yep
[05:05] <ajmitch> you have teamspeak, or just gobby?
[05:05] <pitti> ajmitch: I'm still alone on the table, though
[05:05] <ajmitch> ok
[05:05] <pitti> ajmitch: no TS, I'm on powerpc :/
[05:05] <shaya> btw, is it just me or do other people have locale problems in edgy?
[05:05] <Hobbsee> pitti: easier to hear you speak that way :P
[05:05] <ajmitch> ah :(
[05:05] <Hobbsee> oh
[05:05] <pitti> shaya: known, locales are broken in edgy
[05:05] <shaya> ok
[05:05] <shaya> works, just perl is annoying :)
[05:06] <ajmitch> pitti: which gobby port are you on?
[05:06] <pitti> ajmitch: 9004
[05:07] <fabbione> cya tomorrow
[05:07] <ajmitch> bye fabbione 
[05:07] <Hobbsee> bye fabbione 
[05:14] <desrt> wow.  edgy is fast.
[05:14] <ajmitch> hehe
[05:14] <ajmitch> fast to crash & burn?
[05:14] <desrt> fast from now until release
[05:15] <desrt> UVF is next month already
[05:15] <ajmitch> as the current spec suggests, at least
[05:21] <sladen> desrt: that's just a bit too soon...
[05:30] <sivang> anybody know if the common-customization BOF is taking place?
[05:31] <Kinnison> Yes
[05:32] <Kinnison> You're not in it
[05:32] <Kinnison> I am
[05:32] <sivang> Kinnison: but you don't seem to be talking at all :-) I was sure some more drafting / work on the release schedule is being done.
[05:34] <Kinnison> gobby 9001 / Common Customisations
[05:37] <\sh> oh god...you need a wired keyboard, to bind a bluetooth keyboard to the bluetooth dongle...strange IT world...
[05:38] <Kinnison> heh
[05:46] <sladen> \sh: can't you just hold the button down;  and then the actual dongles also provide a USB HID interface so that the keyboard function should work even before bluetooth is brought up (eg. in the BIOS)
[06:02] <\sh> sladen: no..the keyboard lost the complete key
[06:02] <\sh> sladen: it was on my office window pc
[06:03] <\sh> sladen: and during bootup it doesn't work...
[06:06] <sladen> \sh: not even in the BIOS?
[06:07] <Kinnison> People wanting their spec reviewed should make sure the status in launchpad is set to 'review'
[06:08] <Kinnison> Reviewers congregate in #uds-review
[06:11] <\sh> sladen: no
[06:16] <yosch> hi guys
[06:16] <yosch> quick question: is there an IRC channel alongside https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate ?
[06:19] <Kinnison> Would at least one native english speaker like to join in the review process please on #uds-review?
[06:25] <ploum> Hello
[06:26] <ploum> I just packaged Rhythmbox 0.9.5 for dapper
[06:26] <ploum> could someone point me to the transparent-tray-icon patch ?
[06:28] <ploum> found it, sorry for the noise !
[06:30] <yosch> quick question about the summit schedule
[06:31] <yosch> if a session related to a particular spec appears on the current schedule, how do I participate remotely?
[06:32] <yosch> what gobby ports can I join? is there a irc channel set up?
[06:34] <yosch> a session I'm particularly interesting in seems to be hapenning now and I'm not in Paris yet :-(
[06:34] <dieman> which session?
[06:35] <yosch> dieman: open-fonts in the Olympe room
[06:35] <dieman> hrm, im not actually down thre, so I dont know which gobby port they are using
[06:35] <dieman> do you have the hostname from the participate page?
[06:35] <dieman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate
[06:36] <yosch> dieman: hostname gobby.uds.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <dieman> problem is i dont know what port either
[06:36] <dieman> 9008 perhaps?
[06:36] <yosch> trying
[06:37] <dieman> is anyone on teamspeak for that one?
[06:37] <dieman> yeah, they may not be using gobby or teamspeak on that one
[06:37] <dieman> its been sporradic
[06:38] <yosch> OK, who can I ping from the participants
[06:40] <shenki> ploum: would it be possible to grab rb 0.9.5 from you?
[06:40] <yosch> isn't the gobby port if it's used published somewhere?
[06:40] <ploum> shenki: http://ploum.fritalk.com/packages/
[06:40] <shaya> does anyone know of a good way to have an x-widgit (controlled by a shell script) that shows that "work is being done" i.e. something that goes back and forth?
[06:41] <shenki> yosch: if a session has been using gobby, they tend to announce it as the session starts, maybe over irc, maybe over teamspeek... it hasn't been readily available information :) (just as an observer)
[06:41] <shenki> ploum: cheers
[06:41] <yosch> maybe I'm looking at the wrong schedule? 
[06:42] <yosch> shenki: over IRC, you mean in this channel or in another one?
[06:43] <shenki> yosch: generally this one. one session was hosted in #ubuntu-meeting. cross your fingers for those kind of details to be fine-tuned tomorrow
[06:44] <yosch> shenki: OK, got it. Thanks.
[06:45] <yosch> shenki: just a bit worried about missing some sessions that's all
[06:46] <shenki> yeah. did you find the schedule page? it didn't seem to be followed exactly, but atleast it gives you an indication
[06:46] <shenki> It would have been nice if being subscribed to a spec in launchpad ment getting told/reminded about the corresponding session happening
[06:49] <yosch> shenki: yes I saw the one on ~mdz 
[06:58] <Kinnison> I've done as much review as my brain can cope with today
[06:58] <Kinnison> I'll do more tomorrow review session
[06:58] <Kinnison> If I've said something in a review of your spec which you don't understand or don't agree with, come and find me
[06:58] <Riddell> mdz: is there a way to request priority for BoFs for tomorrow?
[07:02] <sladen> mako: you signed a key just based on the key-id and not on the fingerprint
[07:08] <ploum> shenki: wait ! I upload another version 
[07:09] <ploum> 0.4.99 so it won't conflict when seb128 will package it itself ;-)
[07:09] <ploum> I also added the transparency-in-the-tray patch
[07:09] <ploum> http://ploum.fritalk.com/packages/
[07:09] <shenki> oh, okay. thanks
[07:10] <shenki> is this a proper package, or...?
[07:10] <ploum> proper ?
[07:11] <shenki> is it made with checkinstall?
[07:11] <shenki> also, shouldnt you have the version -0ubuntu0?
[07:13] <ploum> I didn't make it witch checkinstall. I took the 0.9.4 of seb128 and upgraded the code source, deleted a non-needed patch and added the tray patch
[07:13] <ploum> nothing more
[07:14] <ploum> -0ubuntu0.. argh.. perhaps you are right
[07:14] <ploum> not sure
[07:18] <shenki> oh well, it works, thanks :)
[07:59] <mako> sladen: what do you mean?
[09:00] <Burgwork> fabbione, Keybuk: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/12/1418228
[09:03] <wasabi> Anybody taken a look at iSCSI under Ubuntu? ie packaging sf.net/iscsi-linux?
[09:03] <zul> not me
[09:12] <hughsie> hey guys. Can I get some feedback from http://hughsient.livejournal.com/1906.html wrt to ubuntu please.
[09:13] <hughsie> I want to know if edgy is going to run pm-utils and if the script runs okay.
[09:13] <hughsie> mjg59, i think this applies most to you, although I might be mistaken.
[09:27] <lilbigman80> hi, maybe somebody in here has an idea. I just downloaded and installed the ubuntu 6.06 desktop version on a iBook g4. the installation went well but the system drops me a shell saying i do not have an root filesystem when booting. now i am using the live cd and can see /dev/hda but no /dev/hda[1-6]  with 5 as my root-partition. fdisk works fine on hda but there seem to be no mountable partitions... by the way i have a samsung hd 
[09:28] <Burgwork> lilbigman80, please try #ubuntu as this is not a support channel
[09:29] <lilbigman80> ups, sorry. i am gone :)
[09:29] <Burgwork> no worries
[09:30] <mjg59> hughsie: That's the plan
[09:30] <mjg59> But nothing's been done yet
[09:32] <hughsie> mjg59, gotcha. i guess you're waiting for a formal release, right?
[09:34] <mjg59> More for me to have some time, I think :)
[09:35] <hughsie> yes :-) -- I guess we can catch up and grab a few beers a guadec, right?
[09:35] <mjg59> Sure
[10:37] <fabbione> so assuming xine crashes and mplayer tells me there is no audo and totem refuses to play this dvd..
[10:37] <fabbione> what other options do i have other than committing suicide?
[10:38] <fabbione> mplayer dvd:// to be specific
[10:38] <fabbione> mplayer radomfileimage does work
[10:38] <shenki> windows? :P
[10:38] <fabbione>  /ignore shenki all
[10:38] <fabbione> feh
[10:38] <shenki> heh
[10:38] <shenki> there's always vlc
[10:40] <Seveas> fabbione, amarok?
[10:40] <Keybuk> fabbione: ogle
[10:40] <fabbione> Seveas: i am not in kubuntu
[10:40] <fabbione> Keybuk: point..
[10:40] <Seveas> fabbione, amarok reportedly works in gnome too 
[10:41] <fabbione> Seveas: i am only trying to avoid to install few GB of extra libs if i can avoid it
[10:41] <bluefoxicy> I generally try to avoid qt
[10:41] <Seveas> Need to get 25.6MB of archives.
[10:41] <Seveas> After unpacking 80.7MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:42] <Seveas> not nearly a GB ;)
[10:42] <Keybuk> fabbione: it generally works for me where mplayer doesn't
[10:42] <bluefoxicy> amarok-xine
[10:42] <bluefoxicy> looks like it's a xine core
[10:43] <fabbione> Keybuk: yeah i just couldn't remember all of the names :)
[10:43] <fabbione> Keybuk: score.. thanks
[10:43] <Burgwork> Keybuk, fabbione did you see that linux.com wrote about your f1 tool?
[10:43] <fabbione> Burgwork: yes thanks :)
[10:44] <fabbione> it's MOVIE TIME!
[10:44] <fabbione> later
[10:45] <Keybuk> Burgwork: no?
[10:45] <Keybuk> url?
[10:46] <Burgwork> Keybuk, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/12/1418228
[11:02] <Keybuk> Burgwork: how curious ... they never bothered to contact me to say they'd written it :)
[11:03] <Keybuk> anyhoo, other things to do
[11:22] <crimsun> ...more initNG crack?