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| jdong|coreduo | UWN #3 has a slight inaccuracy, I think | 12:18 |
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| jdong|coreduo | "Security vulnerabilities found in the following packages have been fixed in all affected Ubuntu releases" | 12:18 |
| jdong|coreduo | it's not a true statement | 12:19 |
| jdong|coreduo | thunderbird (like firefox) has not been fixed for Hoary/Breezy | 12:19 |
| jdong|coreduo | due to the 1.0.x series losing upstream support | 12:19 |
| jdong|coreduo | I believe ubuntu-devel has had some discussion on that issue, and it's worth mentioning in the newsletter in a bit more detail | 12:20 |
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| jdong|coreduo | mgalvin, can you revise UWN #3 a bit, regarding security updates? | 12:42 |
| jdong|coreduo | namely, that thunderbird and firefox vulns still exist for Breezy and Hoary? | 12:42 |
| jdong|coreduo | (1.0.8 no support) | 12:43 |
| mgalvin | jdong|coreduo: in a few min i can (or you can if you want/have time) | 12:47 |
| jdong|coreduo | mgalvin, I'll wait patiently, as long as you will eventually do it :) | 12:48 |
| jdong|coreduo | you can word it better than me | 12:48 |
| mgalvin | jdong|coreduo: hehe, ok, i will do it in a few min | 12:49 |
| jdong|coreduo | thanks very much | 12:49 |
| mgalvin | jdong|coreduo: np, so its that upstream does not support them anymore correct? | 12:57 |
| jdong|coreduo | mgalvin, correct; there is a discussion on ubuntu-devel (the list) about viable options | 12:58 |
| jdong|coreduo | so it may be nice to link to that discussion | 12:58 |
| mgalvin | ok, i will check... been a long week *sigh* so i haven't gotten to everything yet | 12:58 |
| mgalvin | indeed, i will | 12:58 |
| jdong|coreduo | mgalvin, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-June/018506.html | 12:59 |
| mgalvin | thanks | 12:59 |
| jdong|coreduo | that's the discussion on firefox | 12:59 |
| jdong|coreduo | it basically applies to thunderbird, too :) | 12:59 |
| crimsun | jdong|coreduo: do you mind making one of reinhard, sebastian, or myself an admin of ubuntu-backports on LP? | 12:59 |
| jdong|coreduo | crimsun, not at all | 12:59 |
| crimsun | jdong|coreduo: great, thanks much | 12:59 |
| jdong|coreduo | crimsun, are only owners allowed to do that? | 01:01 |
| crimsun | hmm, I think | 01:01 |
| jdong|coreduo | I'm not seeing the ability to do it from here | 01:01 |
| jdong|coreduo | mez is the owner | 01:01 |
| crimsun | ok | 01:02 |
| jdong|coreduo | so if you can get ahold of him... :) | 01:02 |
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| Burgundavia | hey all | 01:31 |
| mgalvin | jdong|coreduo: around? | 02:38 |
| mgalvin | Burgundavia: hey (an hour later ;)) | 02:39 |
| Burgundavia | hey mgalvin | 02:40 |
| nixternal | hey Burgundavia...how was the trip? | 04:04 |
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| Burgundavia | nixternal: it was good | 06:11 |
| nixternal | good deal | 06:11 |
| nixternal | now your heading to the big easy | 06:11 |
| nixternal | that should smell pretty bad ;) | 06:11 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 06:12 |
| nixternal | i think my dad just headed down there as a matter of fact for some work | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | just a sec, dbus died on me | 06:13 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:13 |
| nixternal | nice | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | ie: I need to restart (bloody dbus) | 06:13 |
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| Burgundavia | ok, back | 06:18 |
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| Burgundavia | LaserJock_: we be done, eh? | 08:29 |
| LaserJock_ | I guess | 08:29 |
| LaserJock_ | I don't have any emails | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | I believe we are waiting for the press release, on Thursday | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | now come the bug reports | 08:30 |
| LaserJock_ | hehe | 08:30 |
| Madpilot | the book is finally done? | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: no, something else. See my blog post | 08:30 |
| LaserJock_ | well at least Userful is in the maintainer field ;-) | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | it is our junk | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | did you note that our stuff is 6.8.2, not 6.9/7.0? | 08:31 |
| LaserJock_ | I didn't pay much attention, figures though | 08:32 |
| LaserJock_ | I got Jason in -motu though ;-) | 08:32 |
| LaserJock_ | we did a little pbuilder Q&A | 08:32 |
| Burgundavia | very cool | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | I had a good chat with Tim and Daniels father at CLA (who also happens to work for the company) | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | the message of Ubuntu is slowly seeping in | 08:33 |
| LaserJock_ | good | 08:33 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, so is this the thingie that Userful uses to multiply X to many stations? | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: indeed it is | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | in multiverse! terribly shiny and all that | 08:34 |
| Madpilot | nice... the dapper-changes email was a bit... cryptic, and technical | 08:34 |
| LaserJock_ | of course ;-) | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | press release on Thursday | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | there is also growing talk about open sourcing our stuff | 08:35 |
| Madpilot | ah, there will be something human-readable :) For a press-release value of 'readable', anyway | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | just need to convince Tim | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 08:36 |
| LaserJock_ | I've already go some questions from \sh and ogra about it | 08:36 |
| Madpilot | isn't your multiseat widget most of your 'stuff' in this case? | 08:36 |
| LaserJock_ | hehe, "What the heck is a NEW package doing in updates" | 08:36 |
| Burgundavia | yes and no | 08:36 |
| LaserJock_ | Burgundavia: you should tell him that if it was opensource he would have free packaging :-) | 08:36 |
| Burgundavia | heh | 08:37 |
| LaserJock_ | it's true | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | not really a business case,sadly | 08:37 |
| LaserJock_ | free slave labor :-) | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | tell \sh and ogra "Welcome to the brave new Dapper universe" | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | I expect to see more stuff like it in our multiverse over time | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | oracle db express? skype? | 08:38 |
| LaserJock_ | yeah, ogra said mvo is really trying to push stuff like that forward | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | I expect the pressure also coming from malc, sabdfl and jdub | 08:39 |
| Burgundavia | night all | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock_: chase up your pay this week (I will be away, as stated on p.u.c) | 08:43 |
| LaserJock_ | ok, thanks | 08:44 |
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| Madpilot | heh - nice spec name: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DrinkingFromTheFirehose | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 10:29 |
| Madpilot | I really should get into bughunting/triaging a bit more | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | yep | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | and Henrik just talked about trying to get forum people working on that too | 10:32 |
| Madpilot | good - the perennial forum/rest of Ubuntu divide gets a bit narrower ;) | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | there is a forum person, ubuntu_deamon I believe, here | 10:38 |
| Madpilot | gah... why does LP always return errors on the more interesting bugs? :| | 10:39 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: hi! | 11:45 |
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| mdke | LaserJock: hello | 12:10 |
| mdke | LaserJock: having fun? | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | wish we had proper outlets here though | 12:17 |
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| jenda | Is the ubuntu 64 bit version documented somewhere? Can't really find anything in the wiki. | 01:16 |
| Ubugtu | Ubuntu bug 64 in pwlib "pwlib: FTBFS: Shared libraries without -fPIC." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=64 | 01:16 |
| jenda | thanks, Ubugtu | 01:19 |
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| dsas | jenda: I guess it depends on what exactly you want documented, I believe there's documentation on using 32bit chroots for various things, I'm not sure what else you'd need (I don't use the platform myself) | 01:22 |
| jenda | I don't use it either, but a guy's asking wether it's a good idea to install it, or wether to use 32 bit | 01:23 |
| dsas | I think most things just work, but you run into problems with non-free stuff - w32codecs, flash are two that are usually issues I think. | 01:24 |
| jenda | OK | 01:24 |
| jenda | thanks. | 01:25 |
| dsas | They can work, but you have to install the app in a 32bit chroot, I don't know how hard that is, or how strong the documentation on it is. It won't just work in any case. | 01:26 |
| jenda | Yes, just found that in - where else - /RestrictedFormats on the wiki :) | 01:27 |
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| mdke | we have wiki | 06:22 |
| Burgwork | mdke, we migrated? | 06:40 |
| mvirkkil | Hmm.. What's going on? | 06:57 |
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| mdke | Burgwork: yes | 08:15 |
| robotgeek | hey mdke | 08:15 |
| mdke | hiya | 08:15 |
| Burgwork | mdke, sweetness. You in Paris? | 08:18 |
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| jjesse | how can i keep my kubuntu wiki theme across on help.ubuntu.com for documeation? | 08:49 |
| jjesse | hmmm also need to keep me logged in when i tranfsfer over to help.ubuntu.com from wiki.ubuntu.com | 08:50 |
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| Burgwork | jjesse, currently neither of those is possible | 08:52 |
| jjesse | we should make those possible :) | 08:53 |
| Burgwork | the 2nd would require shared cookies | 08:56 |
| Burgwork | I believe the LP people are working on it | 08:56 |
| jjesse | cool, need to add the kubuntu theme as well:) | 09:01 |
| mdke | Burgwork: nope | 09:20 |
| Burgwork | mdke, hmm, so only jerome is there. I guess Laser_away is as well | 09:21 |
| mdke | he is yeah | 09:23 |
| mdke | jjesse: i'll ask to get that kubuntu theme added | 09:23 |
| jjesse | mdke: thanks | 09:29 |
| jjesse | btw congrats on geting the move done | 09:30 |
| Burgwork | indeed | 09:30 |
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| tormod | after the wiki-move to help.ubuntu.com, most of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingProcedures is broken. What's the plan? | 10:23 |
| Burgwork | tormod, fix the links as needed | 10:23 |
| tormod | burgwork, link to the old wiki? | 10:24 |
| Burgwork | tormod, yep | 10:24 |
| tormod | burgwork, are you sure the missing pages should not be moved to h.u.c ? | 10:25 |
| Burgwork | tormod, can you email ubuntu-doc with a list of broken links for discussion? | 10:27 |
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| tormod | burgwork, sure - done. | 11:08 |
| tormod | burgwork, but "Post by non-member to a members-only list" "awaits moderator approval" | 11:10 |
| Burgwork | tormod, it will get passed, but might take a bit | 11:12 |
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