=== jdong|coreduo [n=jdong@d149-67-102-201.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:18] UWN #3 has a slight inaccuracy, I think [12:18] "Security vulnerabilities found in the following packages have been fixed in all affected Ubuntu releases" [12:19] it's not a true statement [12:19] thunderbird (like firefox) has not been fixed for Hoary/Breezy [12:19] due to the 1.0.x series losing upstream support [12:20] I believe ubuntu-devel has had some discussion on that issue, and it's worth mentioning in the newsletter in a bit more detail === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-105-165-49.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:42] mgalvin, can you revise UWN #3 a bit, regarding security updates? [12:42] namely, that thunderbird and firefox vulns still exist for Breezy and Hoary? [12:43] (1.0.8 no support) [12:47] jdong|coreduo: in a few min i can (or you can if you want/have time) [12:48] mgalvin, I'll wait patiently, as long as you will eventually do it :) [12:48] you can word it better than me [12:49] jdong|coreduo: hehe, ok, i will do it in a few min [12:49] thanks very much [12:57] jdong|coreduo: np, so its that upstream does not support them anymore correct? [12:58] mgalvin, correct; there is a discussion on ubuntu-devel (the list) about viable options [12:58] so it may be nice to link to that discussion [12:58] ok, i will check... been a long week *sigh* so i haven't gotten to everything yet [12:58] indeed, i will [12:59] mgalvin, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-June/018506.html [12:59] thanks [12:59] that's the discussion on firefox [12:59] it basically applies to thunderbird, too :) [12:59] jdong|coreduo: do you mind making one of reinhard, sebastian, or myself an admin of ubuntu-backports on LP? [12:59] crimsun, not at all [12:59] jdong|coreduo: great, thanks much [01:01] crimsun, are only owners allowed to do that? [01:01] hmm, I think [01:01] I'm not seeing the ability to do it from here [01:01] mez is the owner [01:02] ok [01:02] so if you can get ahold of him... :) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:31] hey all [02:38] jdong|coreduo: around? [02:39] Burgundavia: hey (an hour later ;)) [02:40] hey mgalvin [04:04] hey Burgundavia...how was the trip? === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:11] nixternal: it was good [06:11] good deal [06:11] now your heading to the big easy [06:11] that should smell pretty bad ;) [06:12] yep [06:13] i think my dad just headed down there as a matter of fact for some work [06:13] just a sec, dbus died on me [06:13] lol [06:13] nice [06:13] ie: I need to restart (bloody dbus) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:18] ok, back === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Plug [n=crb@itpartners.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode__ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:29] LaserJock_: we be done, eh? [08:29] I guess [08:30] I don't have any emails [08:30] I believe we are waiting for the press release, on Thursday [08:30] now come the bug reports [08:30] hehe [08:30] the book is finally done? [08:30] Madpilot: no, something else. See my blog post [08:30] well at least Userful is in the maintainer field ;-) [08:31] yep [08:31] it is our junk [08:31] did you note that our stuff is 6.8.2, not 6.9/7.0? [08:32] I didn't pay much attention, figures though [08:32] I got Jason in -motu though ;-) [08:32] we did a little pbuilder Q&A [08:33] very cool [08:33] I had a good chat with Tim and Daniels father at CLA (who also happens to work for the company) [08:33] the message of Ubuntu is slowly seeping in [08:33] good [08:33] Burgundavia, so is this the thingie that Userful uses to multiply X to many stations? [08:33] Madpilot: indeed it is [08:34] in multiverse! terribly shiny and all that [08:34] nice... the dapper-changes email was a bit... cryptic, and technical [08:35] of course ;-) [08:35] press release on Thursday [08:35] there is also growing talk about open sourcing our stuff [08:35] ah, there will be something human-readable :) For a press-release value of 'readable', anyway [08:35] just need to convince Tim [08:36] indeed [08:36] I've already go some questions from \sh and ogra about it [08:36] isn't your multiseat widget most of your 'stuff' in this case? [08:36] hehe, "What the heck is a NEW package doing in updates" [08:36] yes and no [08:36] Burgundavia: you should tell him that if it was opensource he would have free packaging :-) [08:37] heh [08:37] it's true [08:37] not really a business case,sadly [08:37] free slave labor :-) [08:37] tell \sh and ogra "Welcome to the brave new Dapper universe" [08:37] I expect to see more stuff like it in our multiverse over time [08:38] oracle db express? skype? [08:39] yeah, ogra said mvo is really trying to push stuff like that forward [08:39] I expect the pressure also coming from malc, sabdfl and jdub [08:43] night all [08:43] LaserJock_: chase up your pay this week (I will be away, as stated on p.u.c) [08:44] ok, thanks === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@ALagny-109-1-10-209.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-247-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-247-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-247-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-247-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [10:25] heh - nice spec name: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DrinkingFromTheFirehose [10:29] yeah [10:30] I really should get into bughunting/triaging a bit more [10:32] yep [10:32] and Henrik just talked about trying to get forum people working on that too [10:33] good - the perennial forum/rest of Ubuntu divide gets a bit narrower ;) [10:38] there is a forum person, ubuntu_deamon I believe, here [10:39] gah... why does LP always return errors on the more interesting bugs? :| === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@ALagny-109-1-2-23.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:45] mdke: hi! === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-184.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:10] LaserJock: hello [12:13] LaserJock: having fun? [12:17] wish we had proper outlets here though === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd__ [n=jd@APuteaux-151-1-52-178.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:16] Is the ubuntu 64 bit version documented somewhere? Can't really find anything in the wiki. [01:16] Ubuntu bug 64 in pwlib "pwlib: FTBFS: Shared libraries without -fPIC." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=64 [01:19] thanks, Ubugtu === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:22] jenda: I guess it depends on what exactly you want documented, I believe there's documentation on using 32bit chroots for various things, I'm not sure what else you'd need (I don't use the platform myself) [01:23] I don't use it either, but a guy's asking wether it's a good idea to install it, or wether to use 32 bit [01:24] I think most things just work, but you run into problems with non-free stuff - w32codecs, flash are two that are usually issues I think. [01:24] OK [01:25] thanks. [01:26] They can work, but you have to install the app in a 32bit chroot, I don't know how hard that is, or how strong the documentation on it is. It won't just work in any case. [01:27] Yes, just found that in - where else - /RestrictedFormats on the wiki :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@ALagny-109-1-9-234.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@ALagny-109-1-2-23.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@ALagny-109-1-2-23.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === frafu [n=frafu06@vodsl-8118.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@ALagny-109-1-2-23.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === frafu [n=frafu@vodsl-8118.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host81-158-81-184.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@ALagny-109-1-9-234.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:22] we have wiki [06:40] mdke, we migrated? [06:57] Hmm.. What's going on? === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek_away [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:15] Burgwork: yes [08:15] hey mdke [08:15] hiya [08:18] mdke, sweetness. You in Paris? === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:49] how can i keep my kubuntu wiki theme across on help.ubuntu.com for documeation? [08:50] hmmm also need to keep me logged in when i tranfsfer over to help.ubuntu.com from wiki.ubuntu.com === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:52] jjesse, currently neither of those is possible [08:53] we should make those possible :) [08:56] the 2nd would require shared cookies [08:56] I believe the LP people are working on it [09:01] cool, need to add the kubuntu theme as well:) [09:20] Burgwork: nope [09:21] mdke, hmm, so only jerome is there. I guess Laser_away is as well [09:23] he is yeah [09:23] jjesse: i'll ask to get that kubuntu theme added [09:29] mdke: thanks [09:30] btw congrats on geting the move done [09:30] indeed === Burgwork is currently run off his feet with work === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-113-87.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:23] after the wiki-move to help.ubuntu.com, most of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingProcedures is broken. What's the plan? [10:23] tormod, fix the links as needed [10:24] burgwork, link to the old wiki? [10:24] tormod, yep [10:25] burgwork, are you sure the missing pages should not be moved to h.u.c ? [10:27] tormod, can you email ubuntu-doc with a list of broken links for discussion? === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [11:08] burgwork, sure - done. [11:10] burgwork, but "Post by non-member to a members-only list" "awaits moderator approval" [11:12] tormod, it will get passed, but might take a bit === keith [n=Kevin@keithsudbury.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc