[12:26] <Amaranth> Ok, my bayesian library works perfectly the first two times you use it.
[12:26] <Amaranth> s/use/train/
[12:27] <Amaranth> then it goes all pear shaped
[12:28] <Burgwork> Amaranth, cool
[12:28] <Burgwork> Amaranth, aside from that, is it working all right?
[12:29] <Amaranth> Burgwork: Appears to be, yeah.
[12:30] <Amaranth> Once I realized using a generator for the tokens wasn't a good idea.
[12:30] <Amaranth> I need to loop through the tokens twice, can't really do that with a generator. :P
[12:41] <Amaranth> interesting
[12:41] <Amaranth> i think i'm close to the solution
[12:49] <cbx33> nice one Amaranth 
[12:50] <cbx33> oh just to metion I sorted the problem I was having earlier
[12:51] <rodarvus> good night
[12:54] <Amaranth> I have a feeling I'm going to need to strip buildCache down to just buildCorpus
[12:54] <Amaranth> I think trying to build a cache with the DB backend is fscking it up
[12:55] <Amaranth> it is
[12:59] <Amaranth> IT WORKS! IT WORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:00] <cbx33> :D
[01:00] <cbx33> and I was here for the historic moment
[09:16] <Seveas> %config channel plugins.myfactoids.database ubuntu
[09:16] <Seveas> !bot
[09:16] <Seveas> %config channel plugins.myfactoids.database ubuntu
[09:16] <Seveas> !bot
[09:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:17] <ogra> hey Seveas 
[09:17] <Seveas> hi
[09:56] <pc22> hey DanielC
[10:03] <LaserJock> ah, highvoltage , you woke up
[10:13] <DanielC> Why does my desktop require the acpi-support package? That's stupid.
[10:13] <DanielC> I can't remove it without removing things like gnome-panel, gnome-session and gnome-control-center
[10:16] <pc22> why is openoffice so bloated
[12:26] <Amaranth> morning
[12:26] <ogra> hey
[12:27] <Amaranth> ogra: bzr branch http://dev.realistanew.com/willowng
[12:27] <ogra> YAY !
[12:27] <Amaranth> still some weird parts but  it does run
[12:28] <Amaranth> just run python willowng.in for now and setup a browser to talk to localhost:8008 for http and https
[12:28] <jsgotangco> 2 revs heh
[12:28] <ogra> well, nobody expects yet that its perfect ;)
[12:28] <jsgotangco> that was short
[12:29] <Amaranth> jsgotangco: one for "oh this needs to be in bzr" and one for "hey, i fixed it!"
[12:29] <jsgotangco> lol
[12:30] <ogra> hehe
[12:30] <Amaranth> the bayesian bits need a lot more documentation
[12:30] <Amaranth> if you can figure out what they do, please tell me ;)
[12:30] <ogra> haha
[12:32] <ogra> any particular site i could test with ? 
[12:33] <Amaranth> nope, the corpus is empty
[12:33] <Amaranth> no training
[12:33] <ogra> http://www.realistanew.com/ at least is blocked by the domainfilter :)
[12:33] <Amaranth> yeah
[12:34] <Amaranth> i still need to hook that up to the db
[12:34] <ogra> Error code explanation: 403 = Request forbidden -- authorization will not help.
[12:34] <ogra> haha, i like the part after the doubledash :)
[12:34] <Amaranth> hehe
[12:34] <Amaranth> that's all stock BaseHTTPRequestHandler stuff right now
[12:38] <ogra> Amaranth, do you have already created a launcpad product for it ? 
[12:38] <ogra> (https://launchpad.net/products/+new=
[12:38] <ogra> (https://launchpad.net/products/+new)
[12:38] <ogra> (sorry)
[12:38] <Amaranth> err, i knew i forgot something
[12:39] <Amaranth> but i think i want a name first, otherwise my url will always look goofy when i get one
[12:39] <ogra> after you created it, you can add your branch as the upstream branch for it
[12:39] <ogra> so we can put it on the supermirror
[12:40] <bimberi> Amaranth: i was just going to ask if there was a name :)
[12:40] <Amaranth> naming is hard :P
[12:40] <ogra> bimberi, got a suggestion ? we're still looking for one
[12:40] <bimberi> surely you're sick of my suggestions by now!
[12:40] <Amaranth> hehe
[12:42] <bimberi> i still like BayesWatch though
[12:42] <ogra> WebPolice :)
[12:43] <bimberi> WebWatch(er)
[12:44] <Amaranth> SiteBayes is the best i can come up with
[12:44] <Amaranth> although iirc Robinson-Fisher isn't really a bayesian system
[12:44] <Amaranth> it's just tossed in  there as one because it's based on it
[12:45] <bimberi> ah, kk
[12:45] <Amaranth> i dunno, that was about the time when my head started hurting
[12:45] <ogra> i'll ask tomorrow in the morning talk, there are ~50 ppl here at the conference ...
[12:46] <Amaranth> hehe, yay
[12:46] <bimberi> ogra: lunch break atm i guess?
[12:46] <jsgotangco> almost
[12:46] <Amaranth> almost noon there
[12:46] <jsgotangco> he we don't even have cds :(
[12:47] <Amaranth> who do i have to kill to get one? :)
[12:47] <ogra> jsgotangco, silbs will bring them if she comes i guess
[12:47] <jsgotangco> wooo
[02:33] <highvoltage> LaserJock: hey there
[02:33] <LaserJock> highvoltage: I'm here
[02:51] <Amaranth> lunch break over?
[02:53] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:58] <Amaranth> ogra come back :P
[02:58] <highvoltage> Amaranth: i think so :)
[02:58] <Amaranth> I need to know what he wants me to have done for "Google solicits mid-program mentor evaluations of student progress"
[02:58] <jsgotangco> i hate this moving around floors
[02:58] <highvoltage> ogra's ibook is on the tablenext to us. he doesn't seem around though
[02:58] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: where are you now?
[02:58] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: whatever, just stay over there
[02:59] <jsgotangco> haha
[02:59] <highvoltage> lol
[02:59] <jsgotangco> im having fun with my outlet here
[02:59] <LaserJock> I bet you are
[02:59] <Amaranth> highvoltage: ibook?
[02:59] <highvoltage> Amaranth: his laptop (apple ibook)
[02:59] <Amaranth> highvoltage: Want to make $50? ;)
[02:59] <jsgotangco> lol
[02:59] <LaserJock> quick, somebody still ogra's ibook
[02:59] <LaserJock> steal
[02:59] <jsgotangco> id like an ibook
[02:59] <LaserJock> not that one
[03:00] <LaserJock> I want a macbook
[03:00] <Amaranth> no you don't
[03:00] <Amaranth> QA issues
[03:00] <jsgotangco> i dont care at all
[03:00] <highvoltage> well, this gets logged
[03:00] <Amaranth> highvoltage: hehe
[03:00] <LaserJock> Amaranth: worse than the intel iMacs?
[03:00] <highvoltage> i think ogra knows us well wnought to check the logs as soon as his laptop is stolen
[03:00] <Amaranth> LaserJock: yeah
[03:00] <jsgotangco> do you remember ogra saying he can't do anything if his ibook gets stolen
[03:00] <Amaranth> the case on the macbook turns brown
[03:00] <LaserJock> ewwww
[03:00] <Amaranth> people think it's from the excessive heat
[03:00] <LaserJock> that is so not white
[03:00] <highvoltage> let's just take care of his laptop for him
[03:01] <highvoltage> so that someone else doesn't steal it
[03:01] <highvoltage> i think it will be safe in my bag :)
[03:46] <bimberi> Hello BOF Session! :)
[04:33] <bddebian> Hello
[04:49] <Amaranth> hey
[04:49] <Amaranth> (late)
[04:49] <Amaranth> anyone seen ogra?
[04:50] <dan_young> Amaranth: prob busy in Paris at Ubuntu summit
[04:50] <Amaranth> i know
[04:50] <jsgotangco> Amaranth: he's here in front of me
[04:50] <Amaranth> i meant has anyone seen him there
[04:51] <Amaranth> speaking?
[04:51] <jsgotangco> we're doing a lab at the moment
[04:51] <Amaranth> ah
[04:51] <Amaranth> can you ask him a question for me or is it a bad time?
[04:51] <jsgotangco> his ibook is turned off because all of us in edubuntu are expermenting
[04:51] <jsgotangco> im sure he'll be online in a few minutes we're almost done we had a 2-hour lab session
[04:51] <Amaranth> ok, cool
[04:51] <jsgotangco> i'll tell him too
[04:52] <jsgotangco> i gotta move downstairs
[05:41] <Amaranth_> damn apartment building
[05:41] <Amaranth_> it's got like 12 wireless networks
[05:42] <Amaranth> ogra: What do you want me to have done by the half-way point? (june 28th)
[05:43] <ogra> Amaranth, what *can* you have done by then ? 
[05:44] <Amaranth> probably the dbus interface :P
[05:44] <ogra> what about a basic glade gui, so we have something to show ?
[05:44] <Amaranth> maybe the start of a gtk frontend that uses it
[05:44] <Amaranth> yeah
[05:44] <ogra> that'd be fine 
[05:45] <ogra> being able to show off with some screenshots and have something that already does some basic things (domain blocking) is good for the half-way i think
[05:46] <Amaranth> well it already does bayesian filtering too
[05:46] <Amaranth> i just don't have any training data included with it
[05:46] <ogra> well, we'll likely have to find a way to get around shipping porn in the package ;)
[05:47] <Amaranth> that's not needed
[05:47] <Amaranth> just words like 'sex', 'porn', etc in the db
[05:47] <ogra> like a button in the gui that downloads a page as initial training data 
[05:47] <ogra> if buzzwords suffice for an initial implementation thats fine with me
[05:48] <ogra> jsgotangco, get some coffee
[05:48] <Amaranth> well that was just an example
[05:48] <Amaranth> once a get a frontend going (or safety boat starts talking to it) i could spend a day or so training it
[05:50] <Amaranth> what were you talking about with /etc/defaults and such?
[05:50] <ogra> that was for the initscript
[05:50] <Amaranth> i'd like to get all the boring setup stuff done soon
[05:50] <Amaranth> yeah, i'll need one of those
[05:54] <ogra> Amaranth, btw, does it actually cache anything ? 
[05:55] <ogra> (just wondering, not that that would be a requirement)
[05:56] <lucasvo> ogra: can't we forbid double posting on edubunt-users and dev?
[05:56] <lucasvo> its annoying
[05:56] <ogra> complain :)
[05:57] <lucasvo> ogra: -users contains -dev, right?
[05:57] <ogra> not anymore
[05:57] <ogra> the initial setup was to copy all users from -dev to -users
[05:58] <ogra> but many of them unsubscribed on one or the other
[05:58] <ogra> and we have a lot of new subscribers
[05:58] <jsgotangco> hmm so that's why -dev is quiet
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Whats the Dynamic menus listed on the paris Schedule?
[06:58] <Amaranth> ogra: no caching
[09:25] <mpt> yo
[09:25] <DaSkreech> Fo real
[11:20] <lucasvo> blubb
[11:28] <student> I installed edubuntu 6.06, I get errors when I try to run any of the KDE programs (under education), for example, KTouch won't even work, any idea why?