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Hobbsee | hi imbrandon | 04:00 |
imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 04:01 |
nixternal | hey Hobbsee and imbrandon | 04:02 |
imbrandon | heya nixternal | 04:02 |
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nixternal | woohoo | 04:02 |
nixternal | jamin' and documentin' | 04:02 |
Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 04:02 |
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nixternal | woohoo | 06:51 |
nixternal | it sure is quiet | 06:51 |
Hobbsee | it is indeed. | 06:52 |
=== Hobbsee continues to fight with pbuilder. | ||
Hobbsee | ah ha :) | 06:53 |
nixternal | hehe | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | it's using *edgy* repos now, not dappers! | 06:54 |
nixternal | i have been finger boxin' the keyboard all night helpin' people out ;) | 06:54 |
nixternal | arg.. Hobbsee you just fixed my issue earlier...i was messing with pbuilder following a howto, and i set my environments to dapper | 06:54 |
nixternal | grrrr | 06:54 |
nixternal | or edgy i mean | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: you can run two pbuilders, you know | 06:55 |
Hobbsee | it's very useful :) | 06:55 |
Hobbsee | that's what i'm just finishing setting up now :) | 06:55 |
nixternal | ya..i didn't get that far in the tutorial ;) | 06:55 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: did you figure out how to fix it? | 06:55 |
=== Hobbsee is doing it complicatedly too - building in the home dir... | ||
nixternal | ya..it is in help.ubuntu.com Packaging Documentation | 06:56 |
Hobbsee | yeah, that's what i was using too | 06:56 |
nixternal | i am getting ready to help out jjesse with that..so i was trying it out b4 i worked on it | 06:56 |
Hobbsee | :) | 06:56 |
nixternal | i am not a coder really...i can read it...just can't write it type of thing...but i was trying out the packaging aspect to see if i would be confused and if we would need to dumb it down | 06:57 |
nixternal | sort of speak | 06:57 |
nixternal | ;) | 06:57 |
Hobbsee | actually, that packaging guide's pretty good at the moment | 06:58 |
nixternal | it shall be better for Edgy ;) | 06:58 |
Hobbsee | it's missing a bit on chmod +x'ing the files for the multiple | 06:58 |
Hobbsee | pbuilders | 06:58 |
lnxkde | when we will see the next dev vercion of kubuntu and what kde will have in it? | 06:58 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: the next, or the final for edgy? | 06:58 |
nixternal | october 19 for rc1 and october 26 for the release | 06:58 |
lnxkde | edgy? | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | oh so they decided when rc1 was now? | 06:59 |
nixternal | ya | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: next version of kubuntu | 06:59 |
nixternal | one week b4 final again | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | nice | 06:59 |
lnxkde | edgy is out? | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: kde 3.5.4 should be there | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: no | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | it's severely broken. | 06:59 |
lnxkde | I mean in his pre alpha state | 06:59 |
nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule | 07:00 |
Hobbsee | ah yeah, so it didnt change from what i saw late last night | 07:00 |
nixternal | nope | 07:01 |
nixternal | they just made it purty | 07:01 |
Hobbsee | whee! k-d-s builds in edgy too! | 07:01 |
Hobbsee | all my scripts are working! | 07:01 |
nixternal | nice | 07:02 |
nixternal | one of these days i will be scripting with ya...i can hack code a little..but give me some hardware and Linux and it is over with ;) | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | yay! and it asks for signing! woot! | 07:02 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: hehe, you can do the documentation | 07:02 |
nixternal | you got further then i did in the docs i see ;) | 07:02 |
lnxkde | what I have to do to update to edgy? | 07:03 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: dont do it. | 07:03 |
nixternal | haha | 07:03 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: in the docs? | 07:03 |
nixternal | yup | 07:03 |
lnxkde | ... | 07:03 |
Hobbsee | how do you mean? | 07:03 |
nixternal | you got to the signing part...im not that far following the packaging documentation yet ;) | 07:03 |
nixternal | that is all in there | 07:03 |
lnxkde | hum well I have a lot of space in my PC I can make another installation of kubuntu | 07:05 |
lnxkde | and updateit to edgy and play with the new stuff and report bugs | 07:06 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: howzat? :) | 07:07 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: sethk taught me about signing, maybe there should be a section on making an edgybuild / dapperbuild script there or whatever. | 07:07 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: it's still very very broken at the moment, but you're welcome to | 07:08 |
lnxkde | I know :) | 07:08 |
nixternal | there will be eventually Hobbsee | 07:08 |
Hobbsee | lnxkde: change all instances of dapper to edgy in the sources.list, and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 07:08 |
nixternal | that is what jjesse and i have been conversing about | 07:08 |
Hobbsee | same as breezy --> edgy | 07:08 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: that'd be good | 07:09 |
lnxkde | I just wanted to know if I just have to change all the dapper to edgy in my sources list and make a apt-get dist-upgrade | 07:09 |
Hobbsee | yep | 07:09 |
Hobbsee | that's the way it always works | 07:09 |
lnxkde | ok thankx | 07:09 |
lnxkde | can I install KDE 4 svn it? | 07:10 |
lnxkde | eny KDE 4 sources for edgy ? | 07:11 |
Hobbsee | no | 07:11 |
lnxkde | ok | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | i dunno about kde 4 svn... | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | probably | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | no edgy sources though | 07:12 |
lnxkde | it will be nice kde4svn sources for kubuntu edgy :) testing all the new stuff :) | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | maybe, we'll see :P | 07:13 |
Hobbsee | lets get the other stuff ready first, then maybe play with kde 4 | 07:13 |
Hobbsee | @time paris | 07:13 |
Ubugtu | Current time in Europe/Paris: June 20 2006, 07:13:28 | 07:13 |
lnxkde | well my time to sleep have come :) | 07:13 |
Hobbsee | hmmm...darn | 07:13 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 07:13 |
lnxkde | see you laterz | 07:13 |
lnxkde | see you all guys :) | 07:13 |
lnxkde | bye | 07:13 |
Hobbsee | bye | 07:13 |
nixternal | there should be some action here soon since it is after 7:30..unless of course everyone is still passed out due to...you know ;) | 07:36 |
Hobbsee | hah, excessive amounts of beer? | 07:38 |
Hobbsee | i think that had to wait till the last night, didnt it? :P | 07:38 |
nixternal | im sure it did | 07:38 |
raphink | @time Nice | 07:41 |
raphink | stupid bot | 07:41 |
Hobbsee | hey raphink | 07:42 |
raphink | hi Hobbsee | 07:42 |
raphink | how are you? | 07:43 |
Hobbsee | raphink: was fighting with multiple pbuilders and scripts, but i have come out victorious! | 07:43 |
raphink | great :) | 07:43 |
Hobbsee | yep :) | 07:44 |
raphink | what was/were the issue(s) ? | 07:44 |
nixternal | raphink: you and i are both bad...we both call the bot stupid | 07:44 |
Hobbsee | had to figure out how to adapt my build script to use a set config script | 07:44 |
nixternal | and the bot can't respond ;) | 07:44 |
raphink | nixternal: which just proves the point | 07:44 |
nixternal | haha right | 07:44 |
Hobbsee | raphink: i usually end up using the pdebuild, not pbuilder build *.dsc, so i had to figure out if that would still work, and how to load the config file i wanted (covered in the man pages) | 07:44 |
Hobbsee | oh yeah, and then how to get an edgy pbuilder (copy dapper one, upgrade it, override config) | 07:45 |
raphink | yep | 07:45 |
Hobbsee | and get them all to stay in /home, not in /var/cache/* | 07:45 |
raphink | the edgy pbuilder doesn't work yet iirc | 07:45 |
raphink | I had to set an edgy chroot for this reason | 07:45 |
Hobbsee | it does - copy dapper, upgrade with --override-config | 07:45 |
Hobbsee | it's just debhelper that's still borked | 07:46 |
raphink | Hobbsee: I couldn't build doing that | 07:46 |
raphink | yep | 07:46 |
Hobbsee | raphink: you couldnt? | 07:46 |
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raphink | whereas in a chroot you could force installing debhelper | 07:46 |
Hobbsee | true, i think | 07:46 |
=== raphink searches for his head to put it all together | ||
Hobbsee | hehe | 07:47 |
Hobbsee | raphink: try cleaning the pbuilder, copying the base.tar.gz and the other files (not the apt.config) and then sudo pbuilder update --override config | 07:48 |
Hobbsee | raphink: try cleaning the pbuilder, copying the base.tar.gz and the other files (not the apt.config) and then sudo pbuilder update --override-config | 07:48 |
Hobbsee | or just create a new dapper one, then upgrade it | 07:48 |
Hobbsee | take your pick | 07:48 |
raphink | yes | 07:48 |
raphink | I know how to do ;) | 07:48 |
Hobbsee | that's what i thought - which is why i was surprised you hadnt been able to make it work quicker than i had | 07:49 |
raphink | well I guess I tried to upgrade it on a bad day | 07:50 |
raphink | anyway, my machine is in pieces now | 07:50 |
raphink | my sister is getting it here tonight | 07:50 |
raphink | from Paris | 07:50 |
raphink | so I'll have my build machine in local ;) | 07:50 |
Hobbsee | ooh fun :) | 07:50 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 07:50 |
raphink | she's coming for a few days and said "at least I can have the internet at home" | 07:51 |
raphink | and I said to her : "sure, if you bring a computer, cause I'm bringing mine to work" | 07:51 |
raphink | ;) | 07:51 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 07:51 |
raphink | so she's bringing my desktop :) | 07:51 |
raphink | although I got a desktop at work yesterday ;) | 07:52 |
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Hobbsee | hiya \sh | 08:18 |
Hobbsee | raphink: nice, one can never have too many computers :P | 08:18 |
raphink | sure | 08:18 |
raphink | hehe | 08:18 |
\sh | moins | 08:18 |
\sh | sarah joined, sarah quit...frightend to talk with me ? | 08:19 |
raphink | moinmoin | 08:19 |
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\sh | rotfl | 08:19 |
Hobbsee | \sh: not at all | 08:19 |
Hobbsee | haha | 08:19 |
\sh | raphink: are you in paris now? | 08:20 |
raphink | I wish I were \h | 08:20 |
raphink | but no | 08:20 |
Hobbsee | \sh: the first time was to just see if i could keep my kde sound while having TS running, and the second time i left cos it looked like no one was around and active | 08:20 |
raphink | I'm on the riviera, about to go to work | 08:20 |
\sh | raphink: that's a shame...you should be there...can you use TS in your office? | 08:21 |
raphink | we are 8 people in my office | 08:21 |
\sh | Hobbsee: I just joined .. looks like we are the first ones alive | 08:21 |
raphink | I mean in the room | 08:21 |
Hobbsee | \sh: actually, yeah, you're just big and scary :P | 08:21 |
Hobbsee | \sh: i think so too, shame on them. | 08:21 |
\sh | BIG and SCARY? | 08:21 |
=== Hobbsee pictures the big mean scary \sh beast. | ||
\sh | raphink: I have 30 people around me, and I just use it...I don't care about the others when it goes to talk to the others :) | 08:22 |
raphink | hehe | 08:22 |
\sh | Hobbsee: I'm not a big mean scary beast...well, not all day long ;) | 08:23 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 08:23 |
Hobbsee | sure sure... | 08:23 |
nixternal | \sh just most of the day right :D | 08:24 |
\sh | nixternal: yeah...and during the night I'm a real nice guy...when I sleep | 08:24 |
Hobbsee | heh | 08:24 |
Hobbsee | this thing is being highly annoying. | 08:24 |
nixternal | everytime you log onto jabber..you are a big mean scary beast...as your pictures lights up the top right hand corner of my desktop letting me know you have logged on ;) | 08:24 |
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=== Hobbsee doesnt have most people on jabber, actually | ||
nixternal | lol | 08:25 |
nixternal | im nixternal on everything | 08:25 |
Hobbsee | \sh: there :P | 08:25 |
nixternal | aim, msn, yahoo, gmail, jabber.kubuntu.de | 08:25 |
nixternal | you name it | 08:25 |
Hobbsee | yeah, same here pretty much - except for aim | 08:26 |
Hobbsee | i couldnt have hobbsee for aim, so i didnt bother. | 08:26 |
nixternal | lol | 08:26 |
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Hobbsee | raphink: hobbsee@jabber.org | 08:26 |
nixternal | i don't have anybody | 08:26 |
nixternal | ;) | 08:26 |
Hobbsee | morning \sh | 08:26 |
\sh | hehe | 08:26 |
nixternal | i have 6 messanger accounts and like 3 full time contacts | 08:26 |
nixternal | my brother, my x, and \sh | 08:26 |
nixternal | lol | 08:26 |
Hobbsee | \sh: there you go, i can talk :P | 08:27 |
nixternal | but i get messages all day long from people out of the forums | 08:27 |
\sh | Hobbsee: hehehe | 08:27 |
\sh | hobbsee has a voice...really :) | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | i do, i just try not to use it. | 08:28 |
Hobbsee | raphink: adn other devs - feel free to add. | 08:28 |
nixternal | anyone alive on ts yet? | 08:28 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: \sh and myself, yes | 08:28 |
nixternal | lol | 08:28 |
nixternal | thats it? | 08:28 |
\sh | and /me goes and have a smokers bof now.. | 08:28 |
nixternal | they are hungover for sure in paris then ;) | 08:28 |
nixternal | smokin' = bad | 08:28 |
Hobbsee | true | 08:29 |
Hobbsee | urgh | 08:29 |
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nixternal | hehe | 08:29 |
nixternal | i quit 3 years ago | 08:29 |
nixternal | woohoo | 08:29 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: feel free to join on TS | 08:29 |
nixternal | roger that | 08:29 |
nixternal | lemme hook my killer $1 headset up ;) | 08:29 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 08:31 |
nixternal | i forgot my key to talk | 08:31 |
nixternal | LOL | 08:31 |
Hobbsee | lol! | 08:31 |
Hobbsee | set a new one - just not spacebar :P | 08:31 |
nixternal | haha | 08:31 |
nixternal | it is the windows key | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | ah, well you should be able to remember that | 08:32 |
nixternal | can you hear me at all? | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: no | 08:32 |
nixternal | hmm | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: in alsamixer, turn the mic up full, then hit f4 | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | check that LR capture is above mic, and turn up the gain to about 80 | 08:33 |
nixternal | it worked b4 | 08:33 |
Hobbsee | check that the mic boost is on too | 08:33 |
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Hobbsee | hey Lure | 08:33 |
Lure | hi Hobbsee | 08:34 |
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raphink | hop | 08:35 |
Hobbsee | bye raphink - enjoy! | 08:35 |
Lure | anybody participated on UDS over TS? I can not as firewall at work does not let me through :-( | 08:36 |
Hobbsee | Lure: bits and pieces - they're having a lot of trouble with it | 08:37 |
Hobbsee | not everyone has mics - it's quite static-y | 08:37 |
Hobbsee | but i'ts better than nothing | 08:37 |
Hobbsee | mostly. | 08:37 |
Lure | ok, I will just follow wiki page update and ping Riddell if I need ;-) | 08:37 |
Hobbsee | Lure: okay hehe | 08:38 |
\sh | nixternal: I didn't hear you on TS :) say something | 08:45 |
nixternal | my mic isn't working all of a sudden | 08:45 |
\sh | I see you mic is open but nothing comes through | 08:45 |
nixternal | let me reboot | 08:45 |
nixternal | my mic was working earlier... | 08:46 |
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Riddell | hi Lure | 08:59 |
Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 08:59 |
Riddell | moring Hobbsee | 08:59 |
Riddell | morning | 08:59 |
Riddell | thingy | 09:00 |
Hobbsee | yeah. morning at 5pm :P | 09:00 |
\sh | moins Riddell ... already had a nice caf au lait? | 09:00 |
Riddell | I had some fruit salad and grapefruit juice thank you | 09:01 |
\sh | not a typical french breakfast ;) | 09:01 |
Hobbsee | hehe - you'll have to find him one tomorrow \sh | 09:02 |
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Riddell | hmm, http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-20/ | 09:05 |
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Hobbsee | nothing kde based there, that i see. hmmm. | 09:06 |
Riddell | yes, hmm | 09:06 |
Riddell | I need to talk to mdz | 09:07 |
Hobbsee | go find him? | 09:07 |
Hobbsee | oh cool, you made it to TS :P | 09:07 |
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mornfall | Riddell: where are you? :) | 09:22 |
Hobbsee | hey mornfall | 09:24 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: i think he was searching out mdz or something | 09:24 |
mornfall | he's at the table now ;-) | 09:26 |
mornfall | *yawn* | 09:27 |
nixternal | ARGH | 09:28 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: yes, so i see with my extra good eyes :P | 09:28 |
nixternal | Hobbsee: any other tricks you can think of? | 09:29 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: hmmm...about the mic? not really | 09:29 |
nixternal | its weird because it worked fine yesterday | 09:30 |
mornfall | sup? | 09:30 |
Hobbsee | his mic is buggered | 09:31 |
nixternal | sblive | 09:31 |
Hobbsee | hi kwwii | 09:31 |
nixternal | which is oss from the looks of lsmod | 09:31 |
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Riddell | Kubuntu Schedule! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuParisSummit | 09:35 |
Riddell | where's Tonio__? | 09:35 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: what day? | 09:36 |
Hobbsee | that's today? | 09:36 |
Tonio__ | Riddell: I'm there why ? | 09:37 |
Riddell | Tonio__: I can't see you | 09:37 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: that's today yes | 09:37 |
raphink | IRC : the place where you can find people you can't see in real life | 09:37 |
seaLne | :) | 09:38 |
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Hobbsee | darn, wish i could be there for the poewr management | 09:38 |
kwwii | hehe | 09:38 |
mornfall | well | 09:38 |
mornfall | the wireless here is not particularly good | 09:38 |
Tonio__ | Riddell: look at elmo's table | 09:38 |
mornfall | it's from t he posiedon place | 09:38 |
mornfall | so closer to that could be better | 09:38 |
mornfall | people with ideas where it is? :) | 09:38 |
Riddell | where's elmo! | 09:38 |
kwwii | hiding from you | 09:39 |
mornfall | i actually prefer quiet place to a good network | 09:40 |
mornfall | i get link quality somewhere around 30%, very jumpy | 09:40 |
mornfall | just no power plugs | 09:41 |
mornfall | there's some power and same crappy signal outside of the atlas room | 09:42 |
mornfall | however, as far as i go, the atlas room itself is pretty useless | 09:43 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: run a very long cable? | 09:44 |
mornfall | not that i have one :p | 09:44 |
Hobbsee | find one :P | 09:44 |
mornfall | Sirenia -- Seven Sirens and a Silver Tear | 09:46 |
mornfall | i don't even have an AP | 09:46 |
mornfall | to hook on it | 09:47 |
Hobbsee | ah :( | 09:47 |
mornfall | or a switch | 09:47 |
mornfall | The Gathering -- Saturnine | 09:47 |
mornfall | i'll go downstairs again, bbiab | 09:48 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: what the heck is that? some script or somthing? | 09:48 |
kwwii | mornfall: I have a really long cable if you need one | 09:48 |
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\sh | hey kwwii | 10:00 |
mornfall | great, 25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 25435ms | 10:01 |
mornfall | link quality floats just below 50% | 10:02 |
kwwii | ouch | 10:02 |
mornfall | seems stable | 10:02 |
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mornfall | i'm even on AC | 10:04 |
mornfall | if someone gets a powerstrip, it should be fine | 10:05 |
Riddell | mornfall: using wifi? | 10:06 |
Riddell | \sh: we're watching a talk just now, session not yet started | 10:07 |
\sh | Riddell: ok...anyways..I'll record the bof :) have a meeting now | 10:07 |
mornfall | Riddell: yes | 10:07 |
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ervin | tada! | 10:08 |
Hobbsee | heya ervin | 10:09 |
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Riddell | seaLne: what's moving about? | 11:11 |
seaLne | the bug reporter name is now top right | 11:12 |
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seaLne | anyone got a couple of min to help me try to understand a debian patch to k3b? 5th section of changes on http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-k3b?op=comp&compare%5B%5D=%2Fk3b%2Ftrunk%2Fplugins%2Fproject%2Faudiometainforenamer%2F@23&compare%5B%5D=%2Fk3b%2Ftrunk%2Fplugins%2Fproject%2Faudiometainforenamer%2F@161&manualorder=1 kde_module_LTLIBRARIES | 12:28 |
seaLne | audiometainforenamer and audioprojectcddb are the only plugins/project stuff to use lib_LTLIBRARIES rather than kde_module_LTLIBRARIES is this a bug fix to upstream? | 12:31 |
\sh | changelog of debian maintainer? | 12:34 |
allee | Riddell: hi, saw your changes to KubuntuLaptopButtons changes. Why is the plan to restrict, e.g., XFAudioPlay to amarok? Wouldn't it be better if e.g. a video player has focus to let this app catch the key event? One can assign several keycodes to an KDE action. | 12:34 |
seaLne | \sh: i'm trying to match, nasty everything in the diff.gz file, to what they do and seperate them out to merge back with us | 12:37 |
seaLne | i cna't see anyting obvious that relates to it | 12:37 |
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\sh | seaLne: well, it's a change in the autofoo build system..I think there is an upstream issue with using lib_LTLIBRARIES, because those modules are more DSOs, which are not linked but loaded at runtime...so kde_module_LTLIBRARIES is a special macro for it, to tag them as DSO/plugins/whatever | 12:42 |
\sh | seaLne: is this a difference between debian and upstream? this autofoo change in k3b? | 12:43 |
seaLne | well changing lib_LTLIBRARIES to kde_module_LTLIBRARIES in plugins/project/audioprojectcddb/Makefile.am and plugins/project/audiometainforenamer/Makefile.am | 12:44 |
freeflying | amarok-1.4.1 support gstreamer again | 12:47 |
\sh | seaLne: yes, but it's not from upstream version 0.12.15? | 12:47 |
seaLne | no its debian change to upstream | 12:47 |
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seaLne | \sh very weird it was fixed in svn 10 months ago | 12:59 |
\sh | seaLne: debian svn or upstream svn? | 01:02 |
seaLne | kdesvn | 01:03 |
seaLne | atleast that explains where the patch came from | 01:04 |
Riddell | allee: sure, add to that page for kaffeine too | 01:27 |
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Riddell | hi Lure_ | 01:59 |
Lure_ | Riddell: hi - I will not be able to participate over TS, as it does not work through firewall at work :-( | 02:01 |
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Hobbsee | hi all | 02:29 |
allee | hi Hobbsee | 02:32 |
imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 02:32 |
Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 02:33 |
Hobbsee | hi allee - LTNS! | 02:33 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: i got it working :D | 02:34 |
allee | Hobbsee: yeah, had wonderful holidays and the stressful time to only halfway catch up with what happened ;) | 02:34 |
Hobbsee | nice :) | 02:34 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, nice, but what is "it" heheh | 02:35 |
freeflying|away | Hobbsee: some guy publish binary kopete-0,12 with jingle support on kde-apps.org | 02:36 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: multiple pbuilders, like i was fighting with earlier | 02:36 |
imbrandon | ahhh great | 02:36 |
Hobbsee | freeflying|away: great :) | 02:36 |
imbrandon | very good news | 02:36 |
freeflying|away | but still don't know how can he do that :) | 02:36 |
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Hobbsee | freeflying|away: unpack it? | 02:37 |
freeflying|away | Hobbsee: no, he has no source package | 02:38 |
Hobbsee | isnt it possible to unpack debs? | 02:38 |
imbrandon | yea Hobbsee but it may not contain the src | 02:39 |
imbrandon | only binary | 02:39 |
Hobbsee | you'd only need the control file | 02:39 |
imbrandon | maybe if he dident patch something ;) | 02:39 |
uniq | hobbsee: /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh is nice for multiple distros and pbuilder. | 02:40 |
Hobbsee | uniq: yes, it's listed on the !pbuilder link too, and a modified version ofi t | 02:41 |
uniq | ok, i didn't know that :) | 02:41 |
Hobbsee | :) | 02:42 |
freeflying|away | Hobbsee: sure, you can unpack binary package using dpkg | 02:42 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: was there anything interesting in the meetings? | 02:42 |
Hobbsee | freeflying|away: and wouldnt that get you to the source? | 02:42 |
Hobbsee | or it doesnt work that way? | 02:42 |
uniq | back to work. | 02:42 |
freeflying|away | Hobbsee: ya | 02:42 |
seaLne | wouldn't that just give you lots of binary files and some scripts? | 02:43 |
Hobbsee | therefore wouldnt you just copy the stuff in the control file as a result? | 02:43 |
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freeflying|away | seaLne: true | 02:43 |
seaLne | don't think it gives you enough of debian/ ? | 02:44 |
Hobbsee | oh ok | 02:44 |
freeflying|away | no, just scripts for install and control file for binary's only | 02:44 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, no i think they all gavce up on voip, thus i'm on my quest to make a better voip solution , and looking at existing ones | 02:45 |
Hobbsee | ah okay.. | 02:46 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: any summaries of them, or are they in the specs? | 02:46 |
Lure | Hobbsee: me too (regarding power) ;-) | 02:48 |
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Hobbsee | okay, i wonder how this gobby works... | 02:50 |
Hobbsee | neat, but no one's on it. | 02:54 |
jsgotangco | heh | 02:55 |
Hobbsee | hi jsgotangco | 02:55 |
jsgotangco | hi! | 02:56 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: how's life in your part of the world? | 02:56 |
jsgotangco | hmmm not bad, its only 3pm and about to go upstairs for a BOF im beside henrik, Janimo and TheMuso | 02:57 |
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Hobbsee | what BOF? | 02:58 |
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Hobbsee | Lure: i dont see a gobby session about it | 03:17 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: power isn't written up | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | ah ok | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: how'd it go? | 03:17 |
Riddell | well I thought it went great :) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: did you decide on much, or we'll just wait to hear... | 03:18 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: we decided to write our own one | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: nice :) | 04:10 |
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Lure | Riddell: own PM GUI? | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: were you interested in amarok 1.4.1 beta 1 packages, btw? | 04:10 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: do it | 04:19 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: okay. one of the build deps isnt actually in kubuntu - only in your kde 3.5.3 packages | 04:20 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: just build them against kde 3.5.3 then | 04:23 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: what's the dep? | 04:23 |
jsgotangco | that kde kiosk mode is nice | 04:23 |
Riddell | jsgotangco: you saw arran's demo? | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: libexscalibar1-dev | 04:23 |
jsgotangco | Riddell: we're here upstairs for edubuntu | 04:24 |
jsgotangco | Riddell: we'll be comparing it with sabayon tomorrow | 04:24 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: that's from my amarok packages I think | 04:24 |
Riddell | so just reuse the same package | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | hmmm...wonder how you do that... | 04:25 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: install it on your system and make sure the package is included in any archive you put amarok into | 04:26 |
Hobbsee | i was running it thru a pbuilder...but ok | 04:27 |
Riddell | oh, dunno about with pbuilder | 04:27 |
Riddell | I'd just use a plain chroot | 04:27 |
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Hobbsee | hmmm...drat | 04:28 |
Hobbsee | guess i'll have to figure out how to make a chroot then. | 04:28 |
Riddell | sudo debootstrap --variant buildd mychrootdir dapper | 04:28 |
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Hobbsee | Riddell: E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/buildd | 04:32 |
jsgotangco | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsgotangco/171289343/ | 04:33 |
jsgotangco | heh | 04:33 |
bddebian | Hello folks | 04:33 |
Hobbsee | hey bddebian! | 04:33 |
bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 04:34 |
Hobbsee | hey Riddell - looks like people think you've got a distro named after you hehe | 04:34 |
bddebian | heh | 04:34 |
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Hobbsee | okay, i get idiot of the day award. | 04:39 |
DaSkreech | *shines it* | 04:39 |
DaSkreech | Where would you like your name? | 04:40 |
DaSkreech | on the plaque or the glowing hologram above it? | 04:40 |
Hobbsee | i dunno. darn, it *still* doesnt want to work. imbrandon wants to do it :P | 04:42 |
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imbrandon | i got the chroot already setup with kde3.5.3 | 04:42 |
imbrandon | what needs building ? | 04:42 |
\sh | jsgotangco: hehe.... | 04:42 |
DaSkreech | Ok So what do I need to read to build a deb for Ubuntu? | 04:42 |
apachelogger | re | 04:43 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech, lots of things ;) | 04:43 |
apachelogger | Riddell: had a look at kopete? | 04:43 |
imbrandon | apachelogger, he put it up on ~riddell/kopete with the changes you me and freeflying made | 04:44 |
Hobbsee | hey apachelogger | 04:44 |
apachelogger | ahoy Hobbsee | 04:44 |
imbrandon | and Hobbsee ^^ hehe | 04:44 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: cool | 04:44 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: did you get my email RE kopete, and the changes that i wanted made to it? | 04:44 |
Hobbsee | ie, did they occur? | 04:45 |
seaLne | i think https://launchpad.net/bugs/50454 is a won't fix reject? | 04:45 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 50454 in kdebase "KDM should display users list" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 04:45 |
DaSkreech | Thanks Hobbsee | 04:45 |
DaSkreech | can ubotu pipe as well? :) | 04:45 |
apachelogger | Hobbsee: don't think so | 04:45 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: yeah | 04:45 |
imbrandon | seaLne, yea thats just a kdm theme issue | 04:45 |
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Hobbsee | apachelogger: would have been from hobbsee@kubuntu.org | 04:45 |
apachelogger | nothing :S | 04:46 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: i can tell you here anyway, if you didnt get it - did you add the jasper b-d? | 04:46 |
Hobbsee | and d? | 04:46 |
apachelogger | japser b and d? | 04:46 |
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Hobbsee | apachelogger: requires libjasper-runtime as a dep, and libjasper-1.701-dev as a build-dep - i'm havent tested without the second one there, but i'm fairly sure it would need both | 04:47 |
Hobbsee | and that brings in the other jasper package as a shlibdepends | 04:47 |
Hobbsee | oh yeah, and i wanted to be mentioned in the changelog too :P | 04:48 |
apachelogger | libjasper(dev) is depend of kdelibs(dev)/kdebase(dev) | 04:48 |
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Hobbsee | oh is it? cool | 04:48 |
apachelogger | you're in changelog of latest revision ;-) | 04:48 |
Hobbsee | just the libjasper-runtime then | 04:48 |
apachelogger | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2435 | 04:48 |
apachelogger | yep | 04:48 |
Hobbsee | heh, i think i'm in the initial debianization too :P | 04:48 |
apachelogger | well | 04:48 |
Hobbsee | but yeah | 04:49 |
apachelogger | not very much stuff from you ;-) | 04:49 |
Hobbsee | hah | 04:49 |
Hobbsee | yes, i started it, then handed it onto freeflying when i was having trouble getting it to build. | 04:49 |
apachelogger | though I have no problem with, if you want me to I'll edit that | 04:49 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: the reason i dont upload much in the way of source packages is that i have a fairly slow upload connection :P | 04:49 |
DaSkreech | 56k? | 04:49 |
Hobbsee | i think it's 128 | 04:50 |
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Hobbsee | lucky you :P | 04:50 |
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imbrandon | up | 04:50 |
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apachelogger | :P | 04:51 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: i know i'm being painful, but i would, yeah :) | 04:51 |
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apachelogger | up we go :) | 04:56 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: :) thanks | 04:56 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: where that? | 05:15 |
DaSkreech | Hi Riddell | 05:15 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: where's what in particular? oh, it was in #kubuntu | 05:15 |
Riddell | Lure: so, power manager stuff | 05:15 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: distro named after me | 05:15 |
Hobbsee | yes, #kubuntu | 05:15 |
Lure | Riddell: speak up! ;-) | 05:15 |
Riddell | Lure: klaptopdaemon is crap but kpowersave and powersaved duplicates far too much stuff that's in ubuntu already | 05:16 |
Riddell | Lure: if you look at gnome-power-manager it's not a lot of code | 05:16 |
Lure | Riddell: correct | 05:16 |
Riddell | Lure: so writing a frontend to HAL that does brightness shouldn'b too hard | 05:16 |
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Lure | Riddell: because of gnome's simplicity to the minimum... | 05:16 |
Riddell | Lure: we had ervin here who's doing Solid and he says it would be a good test case for Solid | 05:17 |
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Lure | Solid is based on dbus/hal? | 05:17 |
Riddell | s/brightness/brightness and suspend etc/ | 05:17 |
Riddell | Lure: it will have a hal backend yes | 05:17 |
Lure | but Solid is kde4, right? | 05:17 |
\sh | "Solid"? | 05:17 |
Riddell | we wouldn't use solid but it would show that you can use hal with kde | 05:18 |
Lure | ok, so it will show the way for Solid... | 05:18 |
Riddell | Lure: yes | 05:18 |
Lure | So we need kde-guidance PM module and new tray module, right? | 05:19 |
Riddell | yes | 05:19 |
Lure | or would you do all config just in tray like gpm? | 05:19 |
Riddell | probaly all from the tray | 05:19 |
Lure | there should not be much if we go with minimalistic aproach... | 05:20 |
Hobbsee | tray - if most people cant figure out how to install a theme thru system settings, they wont be able to get the laptop thing working either :P | 05:20 |
Lure | we probably need to spec what we want to have in | 05:20 |
Riddell | Lure: yes, I'm writing that now, and we've got notes on the config UI from el | 05:21 |
Lure | good... | 05:21 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: they won't eed to work anythin out, it should work fine out the box | 05:21 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: true, but sometimes people like changing their settings | 05:22 |
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Hobbsee | hey Tonio_ | 05:22 |
Lure | Hobbsee: the only setting is probably what to do on Suspend key and what to do on low-power condition (if we look like gpm) | 05:22 |
DaSkreech | \sh: http://solid.kde.org | 05:22 |
Lure | hi Tonio_ | 05:22 |
Hobbsee | Lure: true - would there be different settings for if the laptop is on AC vs battery power? | 05:23 |
Hobbsee | like in kpowersave? | 05:23 |
Hobbsee | or would we lose that? | 05:23 |
Tonio_ | hey Lure | 05:23 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: yes, we'd have different settings for plugged in and unplugged | 05:23 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: cool :) | 05:23 |
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Lure | Hobbsee: maybe - if we think it is important... But the issue with schema/profile is that it is hard to set it properly and then users do not do it at all | 05:24 |
Lure | this is why good defaults are better than complex config options (imho) | 05:24 |
Lure | Hobbsee: who said that I will write the code ;-)? | 05:25 |
Hobbsee | Lure: true...maybe blank screen screensaver on battery power? suspends more quickly on battery than on AC | 05:25 |
Lure | Hobbsee: our super-Riddell will do it (we have seen his powers with Dapper ;-)) | 05:25 |
Hobbsee | Lure: true, oh, you were on *looking at the code* duty, not writing it | 05:25 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 05:25 |
DaSkreech | Super Cow powers? | 05:25 |
imbrandon | Ponnie Powers | 05:26 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: noyoucannothaveapony. | 05:26 |
Lure | Hobbsee: yes, I think we need to write use-cases like the one you mention above and then discuss what make sense and what now | 05:26 |
Lure | s/now/not/ | 05:26 |
mornfall | what what? | 05:26 |
Hobbsee | heya mornfall - you can go back to sleep :P | 05:26 |
mornfall | i was not asleep | 05:26 |
mornfall | :'( | 05:26 |
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Hobbsee | oh yeah, it's time for me to sleep, not you to | 05:27 |
Lure | as much as I like kpowersave interface, I have also found out that at the end I do not use it that much, therefore it is questionable if needed in whole | 05:27 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, edgy eft +11 == Power Pony kthxbye | 05:27 |
mornfall | wtf? | 05:27 |
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imbrandon | mornfall, its a running joke in -devel / -motu about ponies | 05:28 |
bddebian | heh | 05:28 |
mornfall | the wtf goes to the kthxbye | 05:28 |
DaSkreech | /. ? | 05:28 |
Hobbsee | Lure: +1 | 05:28 |
imbrandon | ahh thats a l337 h4xor joke ( bad one at that ) | 05:28 |
mornfall | (which is basically an euphemism for go fuck yourself as far is i know) | 05:28 |
bddebian | h4XX0r, come on man :) | 05:29 |
imbrandon | mornfall, basicly unless ment in the playfull way it was said ;) | 05:29 |
mornfall | ookey | 05:29 |
imbrandon | lol @ bddebian | 05:30 |
Hobbsee | mornfall: also a satire of the "oh please can you help me questoins, when they leave about 30 seconds later" | 05:30 |
mornfall | Riddell: could you maybe poke el whether she has my headphones? :)) | 05:31 |
Riddell | mornfall: I'm in my room | 05:31 |
mornfall | damn | 05:32 |
mornfall | let's try ervin | 05:32 |
DaSkreech | Where's the paris-following-page? | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: /topic | 05:32 |
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DaSkreech | Ah knew I saw it somewhere :) | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | haha | 05:33 |
imbrandon | Riddell, while in paris hold a gun to the person responsible for the cert warning and make them fix it infront of you LOL | 05:33 |
Hobbsee | +25 imbrandon | 05:34 |
Hobbsee | just make sure you dont fire it :P | 05:34 |
Riddell | that might not be a popular idea if we killed the canonical sysadmin | 05:34 |
imbrandon | right right , no bullets in the gun, just scare them ;) | 05:34 |
Hobbsee | haha | 05:34 |
imbrandon | haha | 05:35 |
Riddell | and we might find a lot of unanswered support requests in future after that | 05:35 |
imbrandon | lol | 05:35 |
imbrandon | right right , no bullets in the gun, just scare them ;) | 05:35 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: you wouldnt want his job instead? | 05:35 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, *still building* | 05:36 |
imbrandon | ;) | 05:36 |
DaSkreech | http://italy.copybase.ch/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/ | 05:36 |
DaSkreech | ^^ Insta broken system ^^ | 05:36 |
\sh | DaSkreech: kinda | 05:37 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: hah | 05:37 |
Hobbsee | i'd hate to think how long it would take here then. | 05:37 |
imbrandon | shiznit | 05:37 |
imbrandon | just errored | 05:37 |
imbrandon | *looks* | 05:37 |
imbrandon | right at the end too when doing the dh_* | 05:38 |
imbrandon | grrr | 05:38 |
Hobbsee | ooh, pictures! | 05:39 |
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Riddell | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/archives/date-posted/2006/06/19/detail/ has my pics | 05:39 |
nixternal | moin everyone | 05:39 |
Riddell | and we got dapper CDs! | 05:39 |
Riddell | hola nixternal | 05:40 |
imbrandon | heya nixternal | 05:40 |
imbrandon | DAPPER CD!!! | 05:40 |
Hobbsee | well, a blog and pictures :P | 05:40 |
imbrandon | you suxor | 05:40 |
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\sh | uh oh ah...aron looks awful .. | 05:40 |
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=== Hobbsee doesnt want to have to recovery a hard drive again with a kubuntu hoary cd. | ||
imbrandon | Riddell, those from paris ? | 05:40 |
Hobbsee | that was just scary. | 05:40 |
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Riddell | imbrandon: yes | 05:41 |
Hobbsee | dodgem cars, i was never allowed on them :( | 05:41 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: whyever not? | 05:41 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: age limit of >12 | 05:41 |
imbrandon | lol | 05:41 |
nixternal | i still ride em any chance i get ;) | 05:42 |
jsgotangco | errr where did you ride the bumpcar? disneyland? | 05:42 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: was that to me? | 05:42 |
nixternal | jsgotangco: you know kiddie land? | 05:42 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: crazy | 05:42 |
jsgotangco | no | 05:42 |
nixternal | chicago | 05:42 |
Riddell | jsgotangco: in the village down the road, they had a fete on Sunday | 05:42 |
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jsgotangco | ahhh | 05:42 |
Hobbsee | and then luna park closed down pretty soon after that - and dad's work didnt give us all tickets there again :P | 05:42 |
DaSkreech | There is work to get Ubuntu on OLPC? | 05:43 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: we have some OLPC people here, but red hat is mostly funding it | 05:44 |
Riddell | well, mostly as in more than any other distro | 05:44 |
jsgotangco | yeah | 05:44 |
DaSkreech | I know. What place would Ubuntu have? | 05:44 |
DaSkreech | It's a medium priority on the Paris schedule | 05:44 |
Riddell | some of their customers might want to run ubuntu on it | 05:44 |
jsgotangco | DaSkreech: its rodovarus' job to do that =) | 05:45 |
Riddell | but I don't care either way, it's unlikely to have KDE on it | 05:45 |
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Hobbsee | heh | 05:45 |
DaSkreech | :-) | 05:45 |
imbrandon | food THEN sleep ;) | 05:45 |
Hobbsee | hmmm.... | 05:45 |
DaSkreech | Hobbsee: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580748 | 05:45 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee / Riddell .... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/721141 | 05:46 |
Hobbsee | oh, looks like we're going to have a fun bit for our next kubuntu meeting too... | 05:46 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreech: hah, nice | 05:46 |
Hobbsee | a user talking about the privacy settings of kopete | 05:46 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: *.pastebin.com is dying... | 05:46 |
imbrandon | i see , whats another pastebin | 05:47 |
Hobbsee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions | 05:47 |
Hobbsee | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | 05:47 |
Hobbsee | ignore the first link - copy key didnt work correctly | 05:47 |
imbrandon | lol i was like wtf | 05:48 |
imbrandon | lol | 05:48 |
imbrandon | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16091 | 05:48 |
imbrandon | ^^ Hobbsee / Riddell | 05:48 |
nixternal | i want a kubuntu mug ;( | 05:49 |
raphink | nixternal: I have one right here | 05:49 |
raphink | with a hot tea in it :) | 05:49 |
imbrandon | heheh | 05:49 |
nixternal | where did you get it? | 05:49 |
Riddell | imbrandon: you're probably missing some build-dep | 05:49 |
imbrandon | cafeepress will make a mug with any logo | 05:49 |
nixternal | finish the tea and email me the cup ;) | 05:49 |
DaSkreech | Yeah bring that up in Paris :) | 05:49 |
raphink | nixternal: at linuxtag :) | 05:50 |
nixternal | ahhh | 05:50 |
Riddell | kubuntu.de has kubuntu mugs | 05:50 |
imbrandon | Riddell, i installed all it called for | 05:50 |
nixternal | roger that...im on it | 05:50 |
DaSkreech | imbrandon: See It's even Kustomizable. It's much more KDE like :-) | 05:50 |
raphink | apt-get install kubuntu-mug | 05:50 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: libvisual0.2-dev is a b-d? | 05:50 |
imbrandon | but i used the debian dir from 1.4.0a | 05:50 |
apachelogger | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2457 | 05:50 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, not sure i'll look | 05:50 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: you use 1.4.0's rules for amarok-1.4.1-beta1 ? | 05:50 |
Riddell | apachelogger: what's changed? | 05:50 |
apachelogger | debianizer is now Hobbsee, dep against jasper-runtime | 05:51 |
nixternal | [10:50] <raphink> apt-get install kubuntu-mug | 05:51 |
nixternal | what repository is that in ? | 05:51 |
raphink | goodies | 05:51 |
nixternal | superduperverse | 05:51 |
imbrandon | deb cafepress.com ./ | 05:51 |
imbrandon | superdeverse LOL | 05:52 |
nixternal | deb will work with a .com extenesion? | 05:52 |
raphink | deb http://kubuntu.org/ubuntu dapper goodies | 05:52 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: er, libvisual0.2-dev is already a b-d | 05:52 |
raphink | nixternal: sure | 05:52 |
Riddell | apachelogger: cool | 05:52 |
raphink | nixternal: did you ever notice that you use archive.ubuntu.COM in your sources.list ? | 05:53 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea it is | 05:53 |
imbrandon | *thinks* | 05:53 |
imbrandon | freeflying-g4, yes i did | 05:53 |
nixternal | ahhh ga | 05:53 |
nixternal | hehe | 05:53 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: heh, you'd modify it | 05:54 |
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imbrandon | gnight Hobbsee | 05:55 |
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DaSkreech | nigh Hobbsee | 05:55 |
DaSkreech | .o0(Mushrooms?) | 05:55 |
apachelogger | Riddell: should be complete now - finally ;-) | 05:56 |
Hobbsee | should, yes :P | 05:56 |
imbrandon | Riddell, is there a better way to build 1.4.1 other than comping the debian/* from 1.4.0a ? IE whats the prefered way ? | 05:57 |
Riddell | imbrandon: that sounds like the best way | 05:57 |
imbrandon | hrm ok , here is what i did | 05:58 |
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imbrandon | i make the orig.tar.gz from the upstream tar.bz2 and then untared it , copied the debian/* from 1.4.0a and changed the changelog and debuild ( did a apt-get build-dep amarok before all that ) | 05:59 |
imbrandon | thats the error from debuild | 05:59 |
imbrandon | hrm .... | 05:59 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: also you may add the amarok-gstreamer,this release support gstreamer | 06:00 |
apachelogger | nah | 06:01 |
apachelogger | better don't do that | 06:01 |
apachelogger | gst is kind of absolutely not working | 06:01 |
apachelogger | only local media | 06:01 |
imbrandon | freeflying-g4, if i can get it to build yes ( even though xine is better IMHO lol ) | 06:01 |
apachelogger | streams will crash, or lag lag lag | 06:01 |
apachelogger | btw | 06:01 |
apachelogger | the problem is that 1.4.1-beta1 depends on libvisual 0.4 | 06:02 |
apachelogger | not 0.2 | 06:02 |
imbrandon | hrm looks | 06:02 |
apachelogger | to quote myself: "* Now libvisual 0.4 is needed for visualisations" ;-) | 06:02 |
imbrandon | doh | 06:02 |
imbrandon | ok lemme go change that | 06:02 |
freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: to meet the build-dep you'd add kubuntu's repo | 06:03 |
imbrandon | freeflying-g4, i did / have | 06:03 |
kwwii | re | 06:03 |
imbrandon | freeflying-g4, i have all the kubuntu repos in the chroot | 06:03 |
imbrandon | apachelogger, E: Couldn't find package libvisual0.4-dev | 06:03 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: might need to package that too? | 06:04 |
apachelogger | 0.4 is not in repo | 06:04 |
imbrandon | nice | 06:04 |
imbrandon | lol | 06:04 |
imbrandon | apachelogger, got the src deb's for it ? | 06:05 |
imbrandon | or should i just grab upstream | 06:05 |
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imbrandon | lol | 06:05 |
Hobbsee | besides, how do you have src debs? isnt that an oxymoron? | 06:05 |
apachelogger | somehow :P | 06:06 |
imbrandon | src for the debs | 06:06 |
imbrandon | ;) | 06:06 |
apachelogger | imbrandon: so, sources for ...? | 06:06 |
apachelogger | libvis or Amarok? | 06:06 |
imbrandon | amarok | 06:06 |
imbrandon | err | 06:06 |
imbrandon | libvis | 06:06 |
apachelogger | nope | 06:06 |
imbrandon | i got amarok | 06:06 |
apachelogger | I'm not sure whether 0.4 is in debian at all | 06:06 |
imbrandon | probbly not | 06:06 |
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nixternal | nite Hobbsee | 06:09 |
mornfall | night Hobbsee | 06:10 |
apachelogger | knite Hobbsee | 06:10 |
DaSkreech | apachelogger: hahahahaha! | 06:11 |
apachelogger | DaSkreech: huh? | 06:12 |
DaSkreech | Instead of Gnight. Knite? | 06:12 |
DaSkreech | I have someone in the office nearly the same way | 06:14 |
apachelogger | hehe | 06:14 |
DaSkreech | Won't use anything with a k in it Esp. if it's at the start of the word/name/sentence | 06:14 |
apachelogger | just for the holy Krail ;-) | 06:14 |
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Riddell | at the channel | 06:17 |
goldenear | Hi Riddell | 06:18 |
Riddell | hi goldenear, where are you? | 06:18 |
goldenear | Sorry I had many work during the last couple of day | 06:18 |
seaLne | boab also no longer has kubuntu-desktop | 06:19 |
goldenear | Riddell: I should be at the conference tomorrow afternoon | 06:19 |
Riddell | goldenear: great | 06:19 |
Riddell | goldenear: bring a sleepnig bag, you can sleep with the others on the floor of my room :) | 06:20 |
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Riddell | seaLne: actually not for edgy, but good point | 06:20 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, thought you was asleep ;) | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | haha, that could be fun :P | 06:20 |
DaSkreech | Hobbsee: !! Bed!!! | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | yeah well...i'm going i'm going.. | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | my room is lit only by my computer screen now, does that count? | 06:20 |
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imbrandon | and dont take the laptop to bed with you | 06:21 |
goldenear | Riddell: I hope we'll have time to speak about oskar | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: hah - it overheats if i do that :P | 06:21 |
Riddell | goldenear: will you be here any other days? | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | well, it might | 06:21 |
imbrandon | ;) | 06:21 |
goldenear | Riddell: I will try to do it | 06:21 |
goldenear | Riddell: It depends on my work.. if they don't need me, I will be with you :) | 06:22 |
Riddell | right | 06:22 |
Riddell | we should be able to schedule in oskar UI session for tomorrow | 06:22 |
DaSkreech | Riddell: Do you know anything about landscape? | 06:23 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: wow, what's the diagram thing made out of ? | 06:23 |
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Hobbsee | that looks really nice! | 06:23 |
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Riddell | Hobbsee: inkscape | 06:24 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: nothing | 06:24 |
DaSkreech | Who would> | 06:24 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: jane silb | 06:24 |
Riddell | silber | 06:24 |
DaSkreech | I get kind fo worried when empty packages get installed on everyon'e computer | 06:24 |
DaSkreech | ubuntu-devel? | 06:25 |
Riddell | she's not on ubuntu-devel | 06:25 |
DaSkreech | Ah. No place I can have a quick chat? | 06:25 |
goldenear | Riddell: Great, also tomorrow is "la fte de la musique"... I hope we could go for a walk in Paris. There we'll be many people playing music :) | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | uh oh...i hear thumping...*sneaks quickly and quietly off to bed before she gets yelled at* | 06:25 |
Riddell | DaSkreech: you'd need to e-mail her | 06:25 |
Riddell | goldenear: yes, people have said we have to go to Paris to see it | 06:26 |
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Riddell | goldenear: how are you getting here? another car might be handy | 06:26 |
goldenear | Riddell: I'll guide you if want :) | 06:26 |
Riddell | jane.silber@canonical.com | 06:26 |
goldenear | Riddell: I've will take the RER (train) I have no car here in Paris (too boring) | 06:27 |
Riddell | ok | 06:28 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: where are you ? | 06:31 |
Riddell | Tonio_: in my room | 06:31 |
Tonio_ | ah okay sorry ;) | 06:31 |
Riddell | anything fun downstairs? | 06:32 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: except aaron showing stupid videos, that quite calm :) | 06:39 |
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imbrandon | Riddell, how can i get rid of this annoying message in chroot when i build something | 06:58 |
imbrandon | perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). | 06:58 |
imbrandon | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. | 06:58 |
imbrandon | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: | 06:59 |
imbrandon | LANGUAGE = (unset), | 06:59 |
imbrandon | LC_ALL = (unset), | 06:59 |
imbrandon | LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" | 06:59 |
imbrandon | are supported and installed on your system. | 06:59 |
imbrandon | ... | 06:59 |
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apachelogger | imbrandon: set LC_ALL and LANGUAGE in your chroot's env ;-) | 07:18 |
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imbrandon | thanks | 07:18 |
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\sh | re | 07:42 |
jpatrick | f/d \sh | 07:44 |
\sh | grmpf....forgot to screen -r brb | 07:44 |
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lnxkde | kde svn 4 debs on edgy>? | 07:52 |
\sh | looks like | 07:53 |
lnxkde | well time to edgy update :D | 07:53 |
DaSkreech | Not yet! | 07:53 |
lnxkde | :( why!!!!!!!!!!1 | 07:53 |
\sh | it's planned... | 07:54 |
\sh | but edgy is too young for that | 07:54 |
lnxkde | I see | 07:54 |
DaSkreech | And KDE4 is young as well | 07:56 |
DaSkreech | almost immoral :( | 07:56 |
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DaSkreech | lnxkde: You can go on making your alternate install in any case :) | 07:59 |
lnxkde | yeah I will :) | 07:59 |
lnxkde | but I dont have to much time lately | 07:59 |
lnxkde | working my bussiness :) | 07:59 |
DaSkreech | Then you are an apt-get dist-upgrade away from edgy | 07:59 |
DaSkreech | Ah well | 07:59 |
DaSkreech | Blog it :) | 07:59 |
lnxkde | blof what? | 08:00 |
lnxkde | blog what my bussines? | 08:00 |
DaSkreech | Oh no | 08:00 |
DaSkreech | That's boring :) | 08:00 |
DaSkreech | The Edgy update :) | 08:01 |
lnxkde | :P | 08:01 |
lnxkde | I will | 08:01 |
lnxkde | busines is not boring!!! | 08:01 |
lnxkde | when you are going to get more than 100,000 a years in 8 months it is not boring :D | 08:01 |
lnxkde | a year* | 08:02 |
DaSkreech | But ... it's not KDE4 :( | 08:02 |
lnxkde | lol | 08:02 |
lnxkde | :) | 08:02 |
lnxkde | yeah I know :) | 08:02 |
bddebian | How can you get more than 100,000/year in 8 months? :-) | 08:02 |
lnxkde | selling drugs :) | 08:03 |
lnxkde | na! | 08:03 |
lnxkde | I work with finances | 08:03 |
lnxkde | I am building a bussiness on life insurance, securitys (stocks), Morgages | 08:03 |
lnxkde | and some other services people need | 08:04 |
DaSkreech | bddebian: very long weekends? | 08:04 |
bddebian | :-) | 08:04 |
lnxkde | bddebian u live were? | 08:04 |
bddebian | US | 08:04 |
lnxkde | nice | 08:04 |
lnxkde | It is a busness that lets you build a francise | 08:05 |
lnxkde | it is part of citigroup :) | 08:05 |
lnxkde | bddebian : www.primerica.com | 08:06 |
bddebian | Ah yes, I am familiar | 08:07 |
bddebian | It's called a pyramind scheme ;-P | 08:07 |
lnxkde | well some people talk about it like that but when you have to take federal licences and state licences and you are paryt of the most powerfull financial company ( citigroup) the pyramid like you say becomes a very powerfull and reliable oportunity :) | 08:08 |
lnxkde | It is very nice :) the only thing get me mad about it | 08:10 |
lnxkde | is that the tools only run on windows :*( | 08:10 |
bddebian | Made any money yet? | 08:10 |
lnxkde | yea | 08:12 |
lnxkde | I am right now at nice moment in the busness :) | 08:12 |
lnxkde | one year here :) | 08:12 |
lnxkde | I get pay as soon sell something | 08:13 |
lnxkde | it takes like 5 days to get the money in my check acount :) | 08:14 |
lnxkde | I just changed my focus to work fulltime on this | 08:14 |
bddebian | So 1 year and you haven't sold anything? :-) | 08:14 |
lnxkde | what is why in about 8 months or so I must be in very good income | 08:14 |
lnxkde | no, I have sold alot of things | 08:14 |
lnxkde | I am just telling you how fast I get paid | 08:15 |
lnxkde | next week I will get like 1,000 for this week activity :) that I hope today I have to nice apointments | 08:16 |
lnxkde | but well | 08:16 |
lnxkde | KDE 4 is nicer :p | 08:16 |
imbrandon | Riddell, ping | 08:16 |
DaSkreech | Where can I find a German Dictionary? | 08:17 |
lnxkde | I just will like to see KDE4 and plasma alpha realeses soon enoght | 08:17 |
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linuxmonkey | imbrandon: got something good for ya Riddell | 08:19 |
DaSkreech | Banannas? | 08:20 |
imbrandon | amarok 1.4.1-beta1 | 08:21 |
linuxmonkey | and I love it | 08:21 |
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DaSkreech | Is there a kopete 0.12 in the repos? | 08:29 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech, no but its on ~/riddell for testing | 08:30 |
imbrandon | bah gotta fix some depends | 08:31 |
DaSkreech | ~/riddel? | 08:31 |
imbrandon | http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ | 08:31 |
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DaSkreech | of course :) | 08:32 |
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lnxkde | Riddell !! | 08:53 |
lnxkde | Riddell nice litlle tv pic about linux :) and ubuntu in http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell | 08:54 |
lnxkde | got any more? | 08:54 |
lnxkde | I like downloading videos about linux and nice opensource stuff | 08:54 |
DaSkreech | TV pic? | 09:02 |
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DaSkreech | linuxmonkey does!!! | 09:03 |
DaSkreech | :) | 09:03 |
claydoh | I would, if I could get a good 3d effect | 09:04 |
claydoh | :) | 09:04 |
linuxmonkey | i got Tux on my right arm | 09:04 |
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linuxmonkey | get tux he's gonna be around for a bit | 09:05 |
DaSkreech | Food? | 09:05 |
claydoh | ya, but it won't be "rebellious" it will be common and over used :) | 09:06 |
DaSkreech | I think Food will probably be relevant | 09:06 |
DaSkreech | as long as it's not a pill by then :() | 09:06 |
linuxmonkey | lmao | 09:06 |
linuxmonkey | DaSkreech: in your case its gonna be via a tube | 09:07 |
claydoh | although an obscenity in binary would be neat | 09:07 |
DaSkreech | Why don't people ever encode messages ofgood will? | 09:07 |
imbrandon | lol | 09:09 |
linuxmonkey | lol | 09:09 |
imbrandon | kubuntu in binary | 09:09 |
claydoh | dunno, tho an obcenity isn't necessarily bad will, just a dirty word | 09:09 |
imbrandon | "Bill Gates to retire in 2008 but realy leave in 2010 becouse MS is always late kthxbye" in binary | 09:10 |
imbrandon | or Unicode Hex :0 | 09:10 |
imbrandon | Unicode UTF-8 Hex | 09:10 |
linuxmonkey | bill gates retire...ya right | 09:11 |
linuxmonkey | its like that commercial hands in my pockets | 09:12 |
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Riddell | imbrandon: pong | 09:16 |
Riddell | imbrandon: export LANG=C | 09:17 |
linuxmonkey | Ridell whats up, he's compiling the new amarok_1.4.1-beta1 | 09:17 |
imbrandon | kk yea , i got amarok built and libvis 0.4 too | 09:17 |
imbrandon | rebuilding after fixing something now | 09:18 |
imbrandon | then i'll upload | 09:18 |
imbrandon | me and linuxmonkey and nixternal been trying ti out , its VERY nice | 09:18 |
imbrandon | alot of UI inprovements over 1.4.0 | 09:19 |
linuxmonkey | imbrandon: you about done compiling the fixed version | 09:22 |
imbrandon | yea its uploading now | 09:22 |
linuxmonkey | lol kk | 09:22 |
linuxmonkey | slow upload ...lol | 09:22 |
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DaSkreech | Hey It logged into AIM :) | 09:25 |
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imbrandon | Riddell, ping ..... uploaded ready for url ? | 09:48 |
imbrandon | gah n/m just found something | 09:54 |
imbrandon | *rebuilds* | 09:54 |
DaSkreech | *laughs* | 09:56 |
DaSkreech | I don't know if I can build Beats of Rage for Linux :( | 09:56 |
imbrandon | i realy need to figure out how to get ccache and distcc working with debuild | 09:57 |
imbrandon | lol | 09:58 |
\sh | is anyone going to the TB meeting? | 09:58 |
\sh | if so, please excuse my not attending the second time, but this umts connection is too unstable# | 09:58 |
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DaSkreech | Anyone have any ideas on what would be emptying /etc/resolv.conf every 20 minutes? | 10:11 |
crimsun | dhclient possibly, depending on the lease period | 10:12 |
DaSkreech | dhclient? | 10:12 |
DaSkreech | Why? | 10:13 |
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toma | dhcp server distributes nameservers | 10:28 |
toma | or doesnt in your case | 10:28 |
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imbrandon | Riddell, ping ( all done and tested this time lol ) | 11:14 |
linuxmonkey | lol | 11:17 |
imbrandon | anyone awake thats running kde 3.5.3 and wanna try the new amarok beta ? | 11:18 |
crimsun | no, but I'm running Windows. | 11:18 |
linuxmonkey | lol | 11:19 |
imbrandon | lol | 11:19 |
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linuxmonkey | do we dare ask why he's running windows | 11:20 |
claydoh | no | 11:20 |
imbrandon | i wouldent linuxmonkey | 11:20 |
claydoh | maybe hes at werk | 11:20 |
linuxmonkey | it must be hell for him | 11:20 |
claydoh | it is for me | 11:20 |
toma | he is testing kde4... | 11:20 |
imbrandon | heh | 11:20 |
linuxmonkey | lmao good one toma | 11:21 |
imbrandon | windows vista , built on qt4 ;) | 11:21 |
imbrandon | that would be too funny | 11:21 |
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linuxmonkey | i put in a request for linux at work and got denied in less than 2 seconds | 11:22 |
claydoh | well we only have a POS system with 3 registers and 2 cheeep dell workstations, one is the POS server | 11:22 |
claydoh | take POS in any way you wish | 11:22 |
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claydoh | its a POS POS | 11:23 |
linuxmonkey | lmao | 11:23 |
claydoh | *but* we are using OOo, and FF is installed | 11:23 |
claydoh | the web interface simply does not work with FF ot Konq | 11:23 |
claydoh | tho if I downgraded java to 1.4, i think the inventory system would work | 11:24 |
imbrandon | heh | 11:25 |
imbrandon | damn vendor lock in | 11:25 |
claydoh | amarok isn't any harder to compile than usuaal? | 11:25 |
crimsun | linuxmonkey: he's using an airport terminal | 11:25 |
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imbrandon | nah well you have to use libvisual0.4 now instead of 0.2 but other than that no | 11:26 |
linuxmonkey | hack it and run a kubuntu live cd | 11:26 |
linuxmonkey | lol | 11:26 |
claydoh | I'd be shot on sight :) | 11:26 |
crimsun | linuxmonkey: on a kiosk with no optical drive? roit... | 11:27 |
crimsun | that's some hacking | 11:27 |
nixternal | lol | 11:27 |
linuxmonkey | lol yup | 11:27 |
nixternal | a kiosk w/ no external anything but a screen and some punch keys | 11:27 |
nixternal | maybe a keyboard if your lucky | 11:27 |
linuxmonkey | security walks up and ask what are you doing....hrmmmm securing this terminal | 11:28 |
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imbrandon_ | Riddell: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <-- amarok 1.4.1-beta1 and the required libvisual0.4 and libvisual0.4-dev ( I packaged from upstream but not in debian yet ) also setup as a repo if you want to just add my pubkey ( http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html ) | 12:00 |
imbrandon_ | ^^ i'm off to take a nap, PM me if you need something else | 12:00 |
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