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Hobbseehi imbrandon 04:00
imbrandonheya Hobbsee04:01
nixternalhey Hobbsee and imbrandon04:02
imbrandonheya nixternal04:02
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nixternalwoohoo04:02
nixternaljamin' and documentin'04:02
Hobbseehi nixternal 04:02
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nixternalwoohoo06:51
nixternalit sure is quiet06:51
Hobbseeit is indeed.06:52
=== Hobbsee continues to fight with pbuilder.
Hobbseeah ha :)06:53
nixternalhehe06:54
Hobbseeit's using *edgy* repos now, not dappers!06:54
nixternali have been finger boxin' the keyboard all night helpin' people out ;)06:54
nixternalarg.. Hobbsee you just fixed my issue earlier...i was messing with pbuilder following a howto, and i set my environments to dapper06:54
nixternalgrrrr06:54
nixternalor edgy i mean06:54
Hobbseenixternal: you can run two pbuilders, you know06:55
Hobbseeit's very useful :)06:55
Hobbseethat's what i'm just finishing setting up now :)06:55
nixternalya..i didn't get that far in the tutorial ;)06:55
Hobbseenixternal: did you figure out how to fix it?06:55
=== Hobbsee is doing it complicatedly too - building in the home dir...
nixternalya..it is in help.ubuntu.com Packaging Documentation06:56
Hobbseeyeah, that's what i was using too06:56
nixternali am getting ready to help out jjesse with that..so i was trying it out b4 i worked on it06:56
Hobbsee:)06:56
nixternali am not a coder really...i can read it...just can't write it type of thing...but i was trying out the packaging aspect to see if i would be confused and if we would need to dumb it down06:57
nixternalsort of speak06:57
nixternal;)06:57
Hobbseeactually, that packaging guide's pretty good at the moment06:58
nixternalit shall be better for Edgy ;)06:58
Hobbseeit's missing a bit on chmod +x'ing the files for the multiple06:58
Hobbseepbuilders06:58
lnxkdewhen we will see the next dev vercion of kubuntu and what kde will have in it?06:58
Hobbseelnxkde: the next, or the final for edgy?06:58
nixternaloctober 19 for rc1 and october 26 for the release06:58
lnxkdeedgy?06:59
Hobbseeoh so they decided when rc1 was now?  06:59
nixternalya06:59
Hobbseelnxkde: next version of kubuntu06:59
nixternalone week b4 final again06:59
Hobbseenice06:59
lnxkdeedgy is out?06:59
Hobbseelnxkde: kde 3.5.4 should be there06:59
Hobbseelnxkde: no06:59
Hobbseeit's severely broken.06:59
lnxkdeI mean in his pre alpha state06:59
nixternalhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:00
Hobbseeah yeah, so it didnt change from what i saw late last night07:00
nixternalnope07:01
nixternalthey just made it purty07:01
Hobbseewhee!  k-d-s builds in edgy too!07:01
Hobbseeall my scripts are working!07:01
nixternalnice07:02
nixternalone of these days i will be scripting with ya...i can hack code a little..but give me some hardware and Linux and it is over with ;)07:02
Hobbseeyay!  and it asks for signing!  woot!07:02
Hobbseenixternal: hehe, you can do the documentation07:02
nixternalyou got further then i did in the docs i see ;)07:02
lnxkdewhat I have to do to update to edgy?07:03
Hobbseelnxkde: dont do it.07:03
nixternalhaha07:03
Hobbseenixternal: in the docs?07:03
nixternalyup07:03
lnxkde...07:03
Hobbseehow do you mean?07:03
nixternalyou got to the signing part...im not that far following the packaging documentation yet ;)07:03
nixternalthat is all in there07:03
lnxkdehum well I have a lot of space in my PC I can make another installation of kubuntu07:05
lnxkdeand updateit to edgy and play with the new stuff and report bugs07:06
Hobbseenixternal: howzat?  :)07:07
Hobbseenixternal: sethk taught me about signing, maybe there should be a section on making an edgybuild / dapperbuild script there or whatever.07:07
Hobbseelnxkde: it's still very very broken at the moment, but you're welcome to07:08
lnxkdeI know :)07:08
nixternalthere will be eventually Hobbsee07:08
Hobbseelnxkde: change all instances of dapper to edgy in the sources.list, and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:08
nixternalthat is what jjesse and i have been conversing about07:08
Hobbseesame as breezy --> edgy07:08
Hobbseenixternal: that'd be good07:09
lnxkdeI just wanted to know if I just have to change all the dapper to edgy in my sources list and make a apt-get dist-upgrade07:09
Hobbseeyep07:09
Hobbseethat's the way it always works07:09
lnxkdeok thankx07:09
lnxkdecan I install KDE 4 svn it?07:10
lnxkdeeny KDE 4 sources for edgy ?07:11
Hobbseeno07:11
lnxkdeok07:12
Hobbseei dunno about kde 4 svn...07:12
Hobbseeprobably07:12
Hobbseeno edgy sources though07:12
lnxkdeit will be nice kde4svn sources for kubuntu edgy :) testing all the new stuff :)07:12
Hobbseemaybe, we'll see :P07:13
Hobbseelets get the other stuff ready first, then maybe play with kde 407:13
Hobbsee@time paris07:13
UbugtuCurrent time in Europe/Paris: June 20 2006, 07:13:2807:13
lnxkdewell my time to sleep have come :)07:13
Hobbseehmmm...darn07:13
Hobbseehehe07:13
lnxkdesee you laterz07:13
lnxkdesee you all guys :)07:13
lnxkdebye07:13
Hobbseebye07:13
nixternalthere should be some action here soon since it is after 7:30..unless of course everyone is still passed out due to...you know ;)07:36
Hobbseehah, excessive amounts of beer?07:38
Hobbseei think that had to wait till the last night, didnt it?  :P07:38
nixternalim sure it did07:38
raphink@time Nice07:41
raphinkstupid bot07:41
Hobbseehey raphink 07:42
raphinkhi Hobbsee07:42
raphinkhow are you?07:43
Hobbseeraphink: was fighting with multiple pbuilders and scripts, but i have come out victorious!07:43
raphinkgreat :)07:43
Hobbseeyep :)07:44
raphinkwhat was/were the issue(s) ?07:44
nixternalraphink: you and i are both bad...we both call the bot stupid07:44
Hobbseehad to figure out how to adapt my build script to use a set config script07:44
nixternaland the bot can't respond ;)07:44
raphinknixternal: which just proves the point07:44
nixternalhaha right07:44
Hobbseeraphink: i usually end up using the pdebuild, not pbuilder build *.dsc, so i had to figure out if that would still work, and how to load the config file i wanted (covered in the man pages)07:44
Hobbseeoh yeah, and then how to get an edgy pbuilder (copy dapper one, upgrade it, override config)07:45
raphinkyep07:45
Hobbseeand get them all to stay in /home, not in /var/cache/*07:45
raphinkthe edgy pbuilder doesn't work yet iirc07:45
raphinkI had to set an edgy chroot for this reason07:45
Hobbseeit does - copy dapper, upgrade with --override-config07:45
Hobbseeit's just debhelper that's still borked07:46
raphinkHobbsee: I couldn't build doing that07:46
raphinkyep07:46
Hobbseeraphink: you couldnt?07:46
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raphinkwhereas in a chroot you could force installing debhelper07:46
Hobbseetrue, i think07:46
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Hobbseehehe07:47
Hobbseeraphink: try cleaning the pbuilder, copying the base.tar.gz and the other files (not the apt.config) and then sudo pbuilder update --override config07:48
Hobbseeraphink: try cleaning the pbuilder, copying the base.tar.gz and the other files (not the apt.config) and then sudo pbuilder update --override-config07:48
Hobbseeor just create a new dapper one, then upgrade it07:48
Hobbseetake your pick07:48
raphinkyes07:48
raphinkI know how to do ;)07:48
Hobbseethat's what i thought - which is why i was surprised you hadnt been able to make it work quicker than i had07:49
raphinkwell I guess I tried to upgrade it on a bad day07:50
raphinkanyway, my machine is in pieces now07:50
raphinkmy sister is getting it here tonight07:50
raphinkfrom Paris07:50
raphinkso I'll have my build machine in local ;)07:50
Hobbseeooh fun :)07:50
Hobbseehehe07:50
raphinkshe's coming for a few days and said "at least I can have the internet at home"07:51
raphinkand I said to her : "sure, if you bring a computer, cause I'm bringing mine to work"07:51
raphink;)07:51
Hobbseehehe07:51
raphinkso she's bringing my desktop :)07:51
raphinkalthough I got a desktop at work yesterday ;)07:52
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Hobbseehiya \sh 08:18
Hobbseeraphink: nice, one can never have too many computers :P08:18
raphinksure08:18
raphinkhehe08:18
\shmoins08:18
\shsarah joined, sarah quit...frightend to talk with me ?08:19
raphinkmoinmoin08:19
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\shrotfl08:19
Hobbsee\sh: not at all08:19
Hobbseehaha08:19
\shraphink: are you in paris now?08:20
raphinkI wish I were \h08:20
raphinkbut no08:20
Hobbsee\sh: the first time was to just see if i could keep my kde sound while having TS running, and the second time i left cos it looked like no one was around and active08:20
raphinkI'm on the riviera, about to go to work08:20
\shraphink: that's a shame...you should be there...can you use TS in your office?08:21
raphinkwe are 8 people in my office08:21
\shHobbsee: I just joined .. looks like we are the first ones alive08:21
raphinkI mean in the room08:21
Hobbsee\sh: actually, yeah, you're just big and scary :P08:21
Hobbsee\sh: i think so too, shame on them.08:21
\shBIG and SCARY?08:21
=== Hobbsee pictures the big mean scary \sh beast.
\shraphink: I have 30 people around me, and I just use it...I don't care about the others when it goes to talk to the others :)08:22
raphinkhehe08:22
\shHobbsee: I'm not a big mean scary beast...well, not all day long ;)08:23
Hobbseehehe08:23
Hobbseesure sure...08:23
nixternal\sh just most of the day right :D08:24
\shnixternal: yeah...and during the night I'm a real nice guy...when I sleep08:24
Hobbseeheh08:24
Hobbseethis thing is being highly annoying.08:24
nixternaleverytime you log onto jabber..you are a big mean scary beast...as your pictures lights up the top right hand corner of my desktop letting me know you have logged on ;)08:24
=== Hobbsee doesnt have \sh on jabber
=== Hobbsee doesnt have most people on jabber, actually
nixternallol08:25
nixternalim nixternal on everything08:25
Hobbsee\sh: there :P08:25
nixternalaim, msn, yahoo, gmail, jabber.kubuntu.de08:25
nixternalyou name it08:25
Hobbseeyeah, same here pretty much - except for aim08:26
Hobbseei couldnt have hobbsee for aim, so i didnt bother.08:26
nixternallol08:26
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Hobbseeraphink: hobbsee@jabber.org08:26
nixternali don't have anybody08:26
nixternal;)08:26
Hobbseemorning \sh 08:26
\shhehe08:26
nixternali have 6 messanger accounts and like 3 full time contacts08:26
nixternalmy brother, my x, and \sh08:26
nixternallol08:26
Hobbsee\sh: there you go, i can talk :P08:27
nixternalbut i get messages all day long from people out of the forums08:27
\shHobbsee: hehehe08:27
\shhobbsee has a voice...really :)08:27
Hobbseehehe08:27
Hobbseei do, i just try not to use it.08:28
Hobbseeraphink: adn other devs - feel free to add.08:28
nixternalanyone alive on ts yet?08:28
Hobbseenixternal: \sh and myself, yes08:28
nixternallol08:28
nixternalthats it?08:28
\shand /me goes and have a smokers bof now..08:28
nixternalthey are hungover for sure in paris then ;)08:28
nixternalsmokin' = bad08:28
Hobbseetrue08:29
Hobbseeurgh08:29
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nixternalhehe08:29
nixternali quit 3 years ago08:29
nixternalwoohoo08:29
Hobbseenixternal: feel free to join on TS08:29
nixternalroger that08:29
nixternallemme hook my killer $1 headset up ;)08:29
Hobbseehehe08:31
nixternali forgot my key to talk08:31
nixternalLOL08:31
Hobbseelol!08:31
Hobbseeset a new one - just not spacebar :P08:31
nixternalhaha08:31
nixternalit is the windows key08:32
Hobbseeah, well you should be able to remember that08:32
nixternalcan you hear me at all?08:32
Hobbseenixternal: no08:32
nixternalhmm08:32
Hobbseenixternal: in alsamixer, turn the mic up full, then hit f408:32
Hobbseecheck that LR capture is above mic, and turn up the gain to about 8008:33
nixternalit worked b408:33
Hobbseecheck that the mic boost is on too08:33
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Hobbseehey Lure 08:33
Lurehi Hobbsee08:34
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raphinkhop08:35
Hobbseebye raphink - enjoy!08:35
Lureanybody participated on UDS over TS? I can not as firewall at work does not let me through :-(08:36
HobbseeLure: bits and pieces - they're having a lot of trouble with it08:37
Hobbseenot everyone has mics - it's quite static-y08:37
Hobbseebut i'ts better than nothing08:37
Hobbseemostly.08:37
Lureok, I will just follow wiki page update and ping Riddell if I need ;-)08:37
HobbseeLure: okay hehe08:38
\shnixternal: I didn't hear you on TS :) say something08:45
nixternalmy mic isn't working all of a sudden08:45
\shI see you mic is open but nothing comes through08:45
nixternallet me reboot 08:45
nixternalmy mic was working earlier...08:46
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Riddellhi Lure 08:59
Hobbseemorning Riddell 08:59
Riddellmoring Hobbsee 08:59
Riddellmorning08:59
Riddellthingy09:00
Hobbseeyeah.  morning at 5pm :P09:00
\shmoins Riddell ... already had a nice caf au lait?09:00
RiddellI had some fruit salad and grapefruit juice thank you09:01
\shnot a typical french breakfast ;)09:01
Hobbseehehe  - you'll have to find him one tomorrow \sh 09:02
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Riddellhmm, http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-20/09:05
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Hobbseenothing kde based there, that i see. hmmm.09:06
Riddellyes, hmm09:06
RiddellI need to talk to mdz09:07
Hobbseego find him?09:07
Hobbseeoh cool, you made it to TS :P09:07
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mornfallRiddell: where are you? :)09:22
Hobbseehey mornfall 09:24
Hobbseemornfall: i think he was searching out mdz or something09:24
mornfallhe's at the table now ;-)09:26
mornfall*yawn*09:27
nixternalARGH09:28
Hobbseemornfall: yes, so i see with my extra good eyes :P09:28
nixternalHobbsee: any other tricks you can think of?09:29
Hobbseenixternal: hmmm...about the mic?  not really09:29
nixternalits weird because it worked fine yesterday09:30
mornfallsup?09:30
Hobbseehis mic is buggered09:31
nixternalsblive09:31
Hobbseehi kwwii 09:31
nixternalwhich is oss from the looks of lsmod09:31
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RiddellKubuntu Schedule!  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuParisSummit09:35
Riddellwhere's Tonio__?09:35
HobbseeRiddell: what day?09:36
Hobbseethat's today?09:36
Tonio__Riddell: I'm there why ?09:37
RiddellTonio__: I can't see you09:37
RiddellHobbsee: that's today yes09:37
raphinkIRC : the place where you can find people you can't see in real life09:37
seaLne:)09:38
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Kubuntu Schedule! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuParisSummit | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings Mon 26th 21:00UTC
Hobbseedarn, wish i could be there for the poewr management09:38
kwwiihehe09:38
mornfallwell09:38
mornfallthe wireless here is not particularly good09:38
Tonio__Riddell: look at elmo's table09:38
mornfallit's from t he posiedon place09:38
mornfallso closer to that could be better09:38
mornfallpeople with ideas where it is? :)09:38
Riddellwhere's elmo!09:38
kwwiihiding from you09:39
mornfalli actually prefer quiet place to a good network09:40
mornfalli get link quality somewhere around 30%, very jumpy09:40
mornfalljust no power plugs09:41
mornfallthere's some power and same crappy signal outside of the atlas room09:42
mornfallhowever, as far as i go, the atlas room itself is pretty useless09:43
Hobbseemornfall: run a very long cable?09:44
mornfallnot that i have one :p09:44
Hobbseefind one :P09:44
mornfallSirenia -- Seven Sirens and a Silver Tear09:46
mornfalli don't even have an AP09:46
mornfallto hook on it09:47
Hobbseeah :(09:47
mornfallor a switch09:47
mornfallThe Gathering -- Saturnine09:47
mornfalli'll go downstairs again, bbiab09:48
Hobbseemornfall: what the heck is that?  some script or somthing?09:48
kwwiimornfall: I have a really long cable if you need one09:48
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\shhey kwwii10:00
mornfallgreat, 25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 25435ms10:01
mornfalllink quality floats just below 50%10:02
kwwiiouch10:02
mornfallseems stable10:02
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mornfalli'm even on AC10:04
mornfallif someone gets a powerstrip, it should be fine10:05
Riddellmornfall: using wifi?10:06
Riddell\sh: we're watching a talk just now, session not yet started10:07
\shRiddell: ok...anyways..I'll record the bof :) have a meeting now 10:07
mornfallRiddell: yes10:07
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ervintada!10:08
Hobbseeheya ervin 10:09
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=== seaLne wishes launchpad info would stop moving about all over the page
RiddellseaLne: what's moving about?11:11
seaLnethe bug reporter name is now top right11:12
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seaLneanyone got a couple of min to help me try to understand a debian patch to k3b? 5th section of changes on http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-k3b?op=comp&compare%5B%5D=%2Fk3b%2Ftrunk%2Fplugins%2Fproject%2Faudiometainforenamer%2F@23&compare%5B%5D=%2Fk3b%2Ftrunk%2Fplugins%2Fproject%2Faudiometainforenamer%2F@161&manualorder=1 kde_module_LTLIBRARIES12:28
seaLneaudiometainforenamer and audioprojectcddb are the only plugins/project stuff to use lib_LTLIBRARIES rather than kde_module_LTLIBRARIES is this a bug fix to upstream?12:31
\shchangelog of debian maintainer?12:34
alleeRiddell: hi, saw your changes to KubuntuLaptopButtons changes.  Why is the plan to restrict, e.g., XFAudioPlay to amarok?  Wouldn't it be better if e.g. a video player has focus to let this app catch the key event?  One can assign several keycodes to an KDE action.12:34
seaLne\sh: i'm trying to match, nasty everything in the diff.gz file, to what they do and seperate them out to merge back with us12:37
seaLnei cna't see anyting obvious that relates to it12:37
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\shseaLne: well, it's a change in the autofoo build system..I think there is an upstream issue with using lib_LTLIBRARIES, because those modules are more DSOs, which are not linked but loaded at runtime...so kde_module_LTLIBRARIES is a special macro for it, to tag them as DSO/plugins/whatever12:42
\shseaLne: is this a difference between debian and upstream? this autofoo change in k3b?12:43
seaLnewell changing lib_LTLIBRARIES to kde_module_LTLIBRARIES in plugins/project/audioprojectcddb/Makefile.am and plugins/project/audiometainforenamer/Makefile.am12:44
freeflyingamarok-1.4.1 support gstreamer again12:47
\shseaLne: yes, but it's not from upstream version 0.12.15? 12:47
seaLneno its debian change to upstream12:47
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seaLne\sh very weird it was fixed in svn 10 months ago12:59
\shseaLne: debian svn or upstream svn?01:02
seaLnekdesvn01:03
seaLneatleast that explains where the patch came from01:04
Riddellallee: sure, add to that page for kaffeine too01:27
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Riddellhi Lure_ 01:59
Lure_Riddell: hi - I will not be able to participate over TS, as it does not work through firewall at work :-(02:01
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Hobbseehi all02:29
alleehi Hobbsee 02:32
imbrandonheya Hobbsee02:32
Hobbseehey imbrandon 02:33
Hobbseehi allee - LTNS!02:33
Hobbseeimbrandon: i got it working :D02:34
alleeHobbsee: yeah, had wonderful holidays and the stressful time to only halfway catch up with what happened ;)02:34
Hobbseenice :)02:34
imbrandonHobbsee, nice, but what is "it" heheh02:35
freeflying|awayHobbsee: some guy publish binary kopete-0,12 with jingle support on kde-apps.org02:36
Hobbseeimbrandon: multiple pbuilders, like i was fighting with earlier02:36
imbrandonahhh great02:36
Hobbseefreeflying|away: great :)02:36
imbrandonvery good news02:36
freeflying|awaybut still don't know how can he do that  :)02:36
=== imbrandon is working on getting confrence calls on an asterick voip box
Hobbseefreeflying|away: unpack it?02:37
freeflying|awayHobbsee: no, he has no source package 02:38
Hobbseeisnt it possible to unpack debs?02:38
imbrandonyea Hobbsee but it may not contain the src02:39
imbrandononly binary02:39
Hobbseeyou'd only need the control file02:39
imbrandonmaybe if he dident patch something ;)02:39
uniqhobbsee: /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh is nice for multiple distros and pbuilder.02:40
Hobbseeuniq: yes, it's listed on the !pbuilder link too, and a modified version ofi t02:41
uniqok, i didn't know that :)02:41
Hobbsee:)02:42
freeflying|awayHobbsee: sure, you can unpack binary package using dpkg02:42
Hobbseeimbrandon: was there anything interesting in the meetings?02:42
Hobbseefreeflying|away: and wouldnt that get you to the source?02:42
Hobbseeor it doesnt work that way?02:42
uniqback to work.02:42
freeflying|awayHobbsee: ya02:42
seaLnewouldn't that just give you lots of binary files and some scripts?02:43
Hobbseetherefore wouldnt you just copy the stuff in the control file as a result?02:43
=== Hobbsee hasnt tried it. she should.
freeflying|awayseaLne: true02:43
seaLnedon't think it gives you enough of debian/ ?02:44
Hobbseeoh ok02:44
freeflying|awayno, just scripts for install and control file for binary's only02:44
imbrandonHobbsee, no i think they all gavce up on voip, thus i'm on my quest to make a better voip solution , and looking at existing ones 02:45
Hobbseeah okay..02:46
=== Hobbsee wonders how the meetings went on kubuntu power
HobbseeRiddell: any summaries of them, or are they in the specs?02:46
LureHobbsee: me too (regarding power) ;-)02:48
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Hobbseeokay, i wonder how this gobby works...02:50
Hobbseeneat, but no one's on it.02:54
jsgotangcoheh02:55
Hobbseehi jsgotangco 02:55
jsgotangcohi!02:56
Hobbseejsgotangco: how's life in your part of the world?02:56
jsgotangcohmmm not bad, its only 3pm and about to go upstairs for a BOF im beside henrik, Janimo and TheMuso02:57
=== Hobbsee thought TheMuso was still here. interesting.
Hobbseewhat BOF?02:58
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HobbseeLure: i dont see a gobby session about it03:17
RiddellHobbsee: power isn't written up03:17
Hobbseeah ok03:17
HobbseeRiddell: how'd it go?03:17
Riddellwell I thought it went great :)03:17
HobbseeRiddell: did you decide on much, or we'll just wait to hear...03:18
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RiddellHobbsee: we decided to write our own one04:10
HobbseeRiddell: nice :)04:10
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LureRiddell: own PM GUI?04:10
HobbseeRiddell: were you interested in amarok 1.4.1 beta 1 packages, btw?04:10
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RiddellHobbsee: do it04:19
HobbseeRiddell: okay.  one of the build deps isnt actually in kubuntu - only in your kde 3.5.3 packages04:20
RiddellHobbsee: just build them against kde 3.5.3 then04:23
RiddellHobbsee: what's the dep?04:23
jsgotangcothat kde kiosk mode is nice04:23
Riddelljsgotangco: you saw arran's demo?04:23
HobbseeRiddell: libexscalibar1-dev04:23
jsgotangcoRiddell: we're here upstairs for edubuntu04:24
jsgotangcoRiddell: we'll be comparing it with sabayon tomorrow04:24
RiddellHobbsee: that's from my amarok packages I think04:24
Riddellso just reuse the same package04:24
Hobbseehmmm...wonder how you do that...04:25
RiddellHobbsee: install it on your system and make sure the package is included in any archive you put amarok into04:26
Hobbseei was running it thru a pbuilder...but ok04:27
Riddelloh, dunno about with pbuilder04:27
RiddellI'd just use a plain chroot04:27
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Hobbseehmmm...drat04:28
Hobbseeguess i'll have to figure out how to make a chroot then.04:28
Riddellsudo debootstrap --variant buildd mychrootdir dapper04:28
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HobbseeRiddell: E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/buildd04:32
jsgotangcohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/jsgotangco/171289343/04:33
jsgotangcoheh04:33
bddebianHello folks04:33
Hobbseehey bddebian!04:33
bddebianHi Hobbsee04:34
Hobbseehey Riddell - looks like people think you've got a distro named after you hehe04:34
bddebianheh04:34
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Hobbseeokay, i get idiot of the day award.04:39
DaSkreech*shines it*04:39
DaSkreechWhere would you like your name?04:40
DaSkreechon the plaque or the glowing hologram above it?04:40
Hobbseei dunno.  darn, it *still* doesnt want to work.  imbrandon wants to do it :P04:42
=== Hobbsee will stick to her pbuilder.
imbrandoni got the chroot already setup with kde3.5.304:42
imbrandonwhat needs building ?04:42
\shjsgotangco: hehe....04:42
DaSkreechOk So what do I need to read to build a deb for Ubuntu?04:42
apacheloggerre04:43
imbrandonDaSkreech, lots of things ;)04:43
apacheloggerRiddell: had a look at kopete?04:43
imbrandonapachelogger, he put it up on ~riddell/kopete   with the changes you me and freeflying made04:44
Hobbseehey apachelogger 04:44
apacheloggerahoy Hobbsee04:44
imbrandonand Hobbsee ^^ hehe04:44
apacheloggerimbrandon: cool04:44
Hobbseeapachelogger: did you get my email RE kopete, and the changes that i wanted made to it?04:44
Hobbseeie, did they occur?04:45
seaLnei think https://launchpad.net/bugs/50454 is a won't fix reject?04:45
UbugtuMalone bug 50454 in kdebase "KDM should display users list" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  04:45
DaSkreechThanks Hobbsee04:45
DaSkreechcan ubotu pipe as well? :)04:45
apacheloggerHobbsee: don't think so04:45
HobbseeDaSkreech: yeah04:45
imbrandonseaLne, yea thats just a kdm theme issue 04:45
=== apachelogger asks kmail
Hobbseeapachelogger: would have been from hobbsee@kubuntu.org04:45
apacheloggernothing :S04:46
Hobbseeapachelogger: i can tell you here anyway, if you didnt get it - did you add the jasper b-d?04:46
Hobbseeand d?04:46
apacheloggerjapser b and d?04:46
=== DaSkreech wants to see if he can get Beats of Rage in
Hobbseeapachelogger: requires libjasper-runtime as a dep, and libjasper-1.701-dev as a build-dep - i'm havent tested without the second one there, but i'm fairly sure it would need both04:47
Hobbseeand that brings in the other jasper package as a shlibdepends04:47
Hobbseeoh yeah, and i wanted to be mentioned in the changelog too :P04:48
apacheloggerlibjasper(dev) is depend of kdelibs(dev)/kdebase(dev)04:48
=== Hobbsee thinks that was all
Hobbseeoh is it?  cool04:48
apacheloggeryou're in changelog of latest revision ;-)04:48
Hobbseejust the libjasper-runtime then04:48
apacheloggerhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=243504:48
apacheloggeryep04:48
Hobbseeheh, i think i'm in the initial debianization too :P04:48
apacheloggerwell04:48
Hobbseebut yeah04:49
apacheloggernot very much stuff from you ;-)04:49
Hobbseehah04:49
Hobbseeyes, i started it, then handed it onto freeflying when i was having trouble getting it to build.04:49
apacheloggerthough I have no problem with, if you want me to I'll edit that04:49
Hobbseeapachelogger: the reason i dont upload much in the way of source packages is that i have a fairly slow upload connection :P04:49
DaSkreech56k?04:49
Hobbseei think it's 12804:50
=== apachelogger got 254 ;-)
Hobbseelucky you :P04:50
=== imbrandon has 768
imbrandonup04:50
=== DaSkreech has 56k :)
apachelogger:P04:51
Hobbseeapachelogger: i know i'm being painful, but i would, yeah :)04:51
=== DaSkreech considers new conpiracy theory :)
apacheloggerup we go :)04:56
Hobbseeapachelogger: :) thanks04:56
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RiddellHobbsee: where that?05:15
DaSkreechHi Riddell05:15
HobbseeRiddell: where's what in particular?  oh, it was in #kubuntu05:15
RiddellLure: so, power manager stuff05:15
RiddellHobbsee: distro named after me05:15
Hobbseeyes, #kubuntu05:15
LureRiddell: speak up! ;-)05:15
RiddellLure: klaptopdaemon is crap but kpowersave and powersaved duplicates far too much stuff that's in ubuntu already05:16
RiddellLure: if you look at gnome-power-manager it's not a lot of code05:16
LureRiddell: correct05:16
RiddellLure: so writing a frontend to HAL that does brightness shouldn'b too hard05:16
=== Hobbsee listens in
LureRiddell: because of gnome's simplicity to the minimum...05:16
RiddellLure: we had ervin here who's doing Solid and he says it would be a good test case for Solid05:17
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LureSolid is based on dbus/hal?05:17
Riddells/brightness/brightness and suspend etc/05:17
RiddellLure: it will have a hal backend yes05:17
Lurebut Solid is kde4, right?05:17
\sh"Solid"?05:17
Riddellwe wouldn't use solid but it would show that you can use hal with kde05:18
Lureok, so it will show the way for Solid...05:18
RiddellLure: yes05:18
LureSo we need kde-guidance PM module and new tray module, right?05:19
Riddellyes05:19
Lureor would you do all config just in tray like gpm?05:19
Riddellprobaly all from the tray05:19
Lurethere should not be much if we go with minimalistic aproach...05:20
Hobbseetray - if most people cant figure out how to install a theme thru system settings, they wont be able to get the laptop thing working either :P05:20
Lurewe probably need to spec what we want to have in05:20
RiddellLure: yes, I'm writing that now, and we've got notes on the config UI from el05:21
Luregood...05:21
RiddellHobbsee: they won't eed to work anythin out, it should work fine out the box05:21
HobbseeRiddell: true, but sometimes people like changing their settings05:22
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Hobbseehey Tonio_ 05:22
LureHobbsee: the only setting is probably what to do on Suspend key and what to do on low-power condition (if we look like gpm)05:22
DaSkreech\sh: http://solid.kde.org05:22
Lurehi Tonio_05:22
HobbseeLure: true - would there be different settings for if the laptop is on AC vs battery power?05:23
Hobbseelike in kpowersave?05:23
Hobbseeor would we lose that?05:23
Tonio_hey Lure05:23
RiddellHobbsee: yes, we'd have different settings for plugged in and unplugged05:23
HobbseeRiddell: cool :)05:23
=== Hobbsee half suspects that she'd at least be able to read Lure's code for it, if it were small.
LureHobbsee: maybe - if we think it is important... But the issue with schema/profile is that it is hard to set it properly and then users do not do it at all05:24
Lurethis is why good defaults are better than complex config options (imho)05:24
LureHobbsee: who said that I will write the code ;-)?05:25
HobbseeLure: true...maybe blank screen screensaver on battery power?  suspends more quickly on battery than on AC05:25
LureHobbsee: our super-Riddell will do it (we have seen his powers with Dapper ;-))05:25
HobbseeLure: true, oh, you were on *looking at the code* duty, not writing it05:25
Hobbseehehe05:25
DaSkreechSuper Cow powers?05:25
imbrandonPonnie Powers05:26
Hobbseeimbrandon: noyoucannothaveapony.05:26
LureHobbsee: yes, I think we need to write use-cases like the one you mention above and then discuss what make sense and what now05:26
Lures/now/not/05:26
mornfallwhat what?05:26
Hobbseeheya mornfall - you can go back to sleep :P05:26
mornfalli was not asleep05:26
mornfall:'(05:26
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Hobbseeoh yeah, it's time for me to sleep, not you to05:27
Lureas much as I like kpowersave interface, I have also found out that at the end I do not use it that much, therefore it is questionable if needed in whole05:27
imbrandonHobbsee, edgy eft +11 == Power Pony  kthxbye05:27
mornfallwtf?05:27
=== Hobbsee does to imbrandon what she did to bddebian earlier.
imbrandonmornfall, its a running joke in -devel / -motu about ponies05:28
bddebianheh05:28
mornfallthe wtf goes to the kthxbye05:28
DaSkreech /. ?05:28
HobbseeLure: +105:28
imbrandonahh thats a l337 h4xor joke ( bad one at that )05:28
mornfall(which is basically an euphemism for go fuck yourself as far is i know)05:28
bddebianh4XX0r, come on man :)05:29
imbrandonmornfall, basicly unless ment in the playfull way it was said ;)05:29
mornfallookey05:29
imbrandonlol @ bddebian05:30
Hobbseemornfall: also a satire of the "oh please can you help me questoins, when they leave about 30 seconds later"05:30
mornfallRiddell: could you maybe poke el whether she has my headphones? :))05:31
Riddellmornfall: I'm in my room05:31
mornfalldamn05:32
mornfalllet's try ervin05:32
DaSkreechWhere's the paris-following-page?05:32
HobbseeDaSkreech: /topic05:32
=== Hobbsee would be hesitant to do anything mic related now.
DaSkreechAh knew I saw it somewhere :)05:33
Hobbseehaha05:33
imbrandonRiddell, while in paris hold a gun to the person responsible for the cert warning and make them fix it infront of you LOL05:33
Hobbsee+25 imbrandon 05:34
Hobbseejust make sure you dont fire it :P05:34
Riddellthat might not be a popular idea if we killed the canonical sysadmin05:34
imbrandonright right , no bullets in the gun, just scare them ;)05:34
Hobbseehaha05:34
imbrandonhaha05:35
Riddelland we might find a lot of unanswered support requests in future after that05:35
imbrandonlol05:35
imbrandonright right , no bullets in the gun, just scare them ;)05:35
HobbseeRiddell: you wouldnt want his job instead?05:35
imbrandonHobbsee, *still building*05:36
imbrandon;)05:36
DaSkreechhttp://italy.copybase.ch/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/05:36
DaSkreech^^ Insta broken system ^^05:36
\shDaSkreech: kinda05:37
Hobbseeimbrandon: hah05:37
Hobbseei'd hate to think how long it would take here then.05:37
imbrandonshiznit05:37
imbrandonjust errored05:37
imbrandon*looks*05:37
imbrandonright at the end too when doing the dh_*05:38
imbrandongrrr05:38
Hobbseeooh, pictures!05:39
=== Lure -> home (bbl)
Riddellhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/archives/date-posted/2006/06/19/detail/ has my pics05:39
nixternalmoin everyone05:39
Riddelland we got dapper CDs!05:39
Riddellhola nixternal 05:40
imbrandonheya nixternal05:40
imbrandonDAPPER CD!!!05:40
Hobbseewell, a blog and pictures :P05:40
imbrandonyou suxor05:40
=== Hobbsee want!
\shuh oh ah...aron looks awful .. 05:40
=== nixternal got dapper cd's
=== Hobbsee doesnt want to have to recovery a hard drive again with a kubuntu hoary cd.
imbrandonRiddell, those from paris ?05:40
Hobbseethat was just scary.05:40
=== \sh needs around 5-10k in november ;)
Riddellimbrandon: yes05:41
Hobbseedodgem cars, i was never allowed on them :(05:41
RiddellHobbsee: whyever not?05:41
HobbseeRiddell: age limit of >1205:41
imbrandonlol05:41
nixternali still ride em any chance i get ;)05:42
jsgotangcoerrr where did you ride the bumpcar? disneyland?05:42
Hobbseejsgotangco: was that to me?05:42
nixternaljsgotangco: you know kiddie land?05:42
RiddellHobbsee: crazy05:42
jsgotangcono05:42
nixternalchicago05:42
Riddelljsgotangco: in the village down the road, they had a fete on Sunday05:42
=== jsgotangco only went to the louvre, eiffel and notre dame with mdz and aseigo
jsgotangcoahhh05:42
Hobbseeand then luna park closed down pretty soon after that - and dad's work didnt give us all tickets there again :P05:42
DaSkreechThere is work to get Ubuntu on OLPC?05:43
RiddellDaSkreech: we have some OLPC people here, but red hat is mostly funding it05:44
Riddellwell, mostly as in more than any other distro05:44
jsgotangcoyeah05:44
DaSkreechI know. What place would Ubuntu have?05:44
DaSkreechIt's a medium priority on the Paris schedule05:44
Riddellsome of their customers might want to run ubuntu on it05:44
jsgotangcoDaSkreech: its rodovarus' job to do that =)05:45
Riddellbut I don't care either way, it's unlikely to have KDE on it05:45
=== Hobbsee contemplates. food or sleep. it's almost 2am.
Hobbseeheh05:45
DaSkreech:-)05:45
imbrandonfood THEN sleep ;)05:45
Hobbseehmmm....05:45
DaSkreechHobbsee: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.1458074805:45
imbrandonHobbsee / Riddell .... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/72114105:46
Hobbseeoh, looks like we're going to have a fun bit for our next kubuntu meeting too...05:46
HobbseeDaSkreech: hah, nice05:46
Hobbseea user talking about the privacy settings of kopete05:46
Hobbseeimbrandon: *.pastebin.com is dying...05:46
imbrandoni see , whats another pastebin 05:47
Hobbseehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions05:47
Hobbseehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:47
Hobbseeignore the first link - copy key didnt work correctly05:47
imbrandonlol i was like wtf05:48
imbrandonlol05:48
imbrandonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1609105:48
imbrandon^^ Hobbsee / Riddell05:48
nixternali want a kubuntu mug ;(05:49
raphinknixternal: I have one right here05:49
raphinkwith a hot tea in it :)05:49
imbrandonheheh05:49
nixternalwhere did you get it?05:49
Riddellimbrandon: you're probably missing some build-dep05:49
imbrandoncafeepress will make a mug with any logo05:49
nixternalfinish the tea and email me the cup ;)05:49
DaSkreechYeah bring that up in Paris :)05:49
raphinknixternal: at linuxtag :)05:50
nixternalahhh05:50
Riddellkubuntu.de has kubuntu mugs05:50
imbrandonRiddell, i installed all it called for 05:50
nixternalroger that...im on it05:50
DaSkreechimbrandon: See It's even Kustomizable. It's much more KDE like :-)05:50
raphinkapt-get install kubuntu-mug05:50
Hobbseeimbrandon: libvisual0.2-dev is a b-d?05:50
imbrandonbut i used the debian dir from 1.4.0a05:50
apacheloggerRiddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=245705:50
imbrandonHobbsee, not sure i'll look05:50
freeflying-g4imbrandon: you use 1.4.0's rules for amarok-1.4.1-beta1 ?05:50
Riddellapachelogger: what's changed?05:50
apacheloggerdebianizer is now Hobbsee, dep against jasper-runtime05:51
nixternal[10:50]  <raphink> apt-get install kubuntu-mug05:51
nixternalwhat repository is that in ?05:51
raphinkgoodies05:51
nixternalsuperduperverse05:51
imbrandondeb cafepress.com ./05:51
imbrandonsuperdeverse LOL05:52
nixternaldeb will work with a .com extenesion?05:52
raphinkdeb http://kubuntu.org/ubuntu dapper goodies05:52
Hobbseeimbrandon: er, libvisual0.2-dev is already a b-d05:52
raphinknixternal: sure 05:52
Riddellapachelogger: cool05:52
raphinknixternal: did you ever notice that you use archive.ubuntu.COM in your sources.list ?05:53
imbrandonHobbsee, yea it is05:53
imbrandon*thinks*05:53
imbrandonfreeflying-g4, yes i did05:53
nixternalahhh ga05:53
nixternalhehe05:53
freeflying-g4imbrandon: heh, you'd modify it05:54
=== Hobbsee beds
imbrandongnight Hobbsee05:55
=== Hobbsee wonders why her bed always grows piles of stuff while she's not looking.
DaSkreechnigh Hobbsee05:55
DaSkreech.o0(Mushrooms?)05:55
apacheloggerRiddell: should be complete now - finally ;-)05:56
Hobbseeshould, yes :P05:56
imbrandonRiddell, is there a better way to build 1.4.1 other than comping the debian/* from 1.4.0a ? IE whats the prefered way ?05:57
Riddellimbrandon: that sounds like the best way05:57
imbrandonhrm ok , here is what i did05:58
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imbrandoni make the orig.tar.gz from the upstream tar.bz2 and then untared it , copied the debian/* from 1.4.0a and changed the changelog and debuild ( did a apt-get build-dep amarok before all that )05:59
imbrandonthats the error from debuild05:59
imbrandonhrm ....05:59
freeflying-g4imbrandon: also you may add the amarok-gstreamer,this release support gstreamer 06:00
apacheloggernah06:01
apacheloggerbetter don't do that06:01
apacheloggergst is kind of absolutely not working06:01
apacheloggeronly local media06:01
imbrandonfreeflying-g4, if i can get it to build yes ( even though xine is better IMHO lol )06:01
apacheloggerstreams will crash, or lag lag lag06:01
apacheloggerbtw06:01
apacheloggerthe problem is that 1.4.1-beta1 depends on libvisual 0.406:02
apacheloggernot 0.206:02
imbrandonhrm looks06:02
apacheloggerto quote myself: "* Now libvisual 0.4 is needed for visualisations" ;-)06:02
imbrandondoh06:02
imbrandonok lemme go change that06:02
freeflying-g4imbrandon: to meet the build-dep you'd add kubuntu's repo 06:03
imbrandonfreeflying-g4, i did / have06:03
kwwiire06:03
imbrandonfreeflying-g4, i have all the kubuntu repos in the chroot06:03
imbrandonapachelogger, E: Couldn't find package libvisual0.4-dev06:03
Hobbseeimbrandon: might need to package that too?06:04
apachelogger0.4 is not in repo06:04
imbrandonnice06:04
imbrandonlol06:04
imbrandonapachelogger, got the src deb's for it ?06:05
imbrandonor should i just grab upstream06:05
=== Hobbsee recalls that apachelogger *is* part of upstream
imbrandonlol06:05
Hobbseebesides, how do you have src debs?  isnt that an oxymoron?06:05
apacheloggersomehow :P06:06
imbrandonsrc for the debs06:06
imbrandon;)06:06
apacheloggerimbrandon: so, sources for ...?06:06
apacheloggerlibvis or Amarok?06:06
imbrandonamarok06:06
imbrandonerr06:06
imbrandonlibvis06:06
apacheloggernope06:06
imbrandoni got amarok06:06
apacheloggerI'm not sure whether 0.4 is in debian at all06:06
imbrandonprobbly not06:06
=== Hobbsee really beds this time.
nixternalnite Hobbsee06:09
mornfallnight Hobbsee 06:10
apacheloggerknite Hobbsee06:10
DaSkreechapachelogger: hahahahaha!06:11
apacheloggerDaSkreech: huh?06:12
DaSkreechInstead of Gnight. Knite?06:12
DaSkreechI have someone in the office nearly the same way06:14
apacheloggerhehe06:14
DaSkreechWon't use anything with a k in it Esp. if it's at the start of the word/name/sentence06:14
apacheloggerjust for the holy Krail ;-)06:14
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=== Riddell throws https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPowerManagement out
Riddellat the channel06:17
goldenearHi Riddell06:18
Riddellhi goldenear, where are you?06:18
goldenearSorry I had many work during the last couple of day06:18
seaLneboab also no longer has kubuntu-desktop06:19
goldenearRiddell: I should be at the conference tomorrow afternoon06:19
Riddellgoldenear: great06:19
Riddellgoldenear: bring a sleepnig bag, you can sleep with the others on the floor of my room :)06:20
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RiddellseaLne: actually not for edgy, but good point06:20
imbrandonHobbsee, thought you was asleep ;)06:20
Hobbseehaha, that could be fun :P06:20
DaSkreechHobbsee: !! Bed!!!06:20
Hobbseeyeah well...i'm going i'm going..06:20
Hobbseemy room is lit only by my computer screen now, does that count?06:20
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imbrandonand dont take the laptop to bed with you06:21
goldenearRiddell: I hope we'll have time to speak about oskar06:21
Hobbseeimbrandon: hah - it overheats if i do that :P06:21
Riddellgoldenear: will you be here any other days?06:21
Hobbseewell, it might06:21
imbrandon;)06:21
goldenearRiddell: I will try to do it06:21
goldenearRiddell: It depends on my work.. if they don't need me, I will be with you :)06:22
Riddellright06:22
Riddellwe should be able to schedule in oskar UI session for tomorrow06:22
DaSkreechRiddell: Do you know anything about landscape?06:23
HobbseeRiddell: wow, what's the diagram thing made out of ?06:23
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Hobbseethat looks really nice!06:23
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RiddellHobbsee: inkscape06:24
RiddellDaSkreech: nothing06:24
DaSkreechWho would>06:24
RiddellDaSkreech: jane silb06:24
Riddellsilber06:24
DaSkreechI get kind fo worried when empty packages get installed on everyon'e computer06:24
DaSkreechubuntu-devel?06:25
Riddellshe's not on ubuntu-devel06:25
DaSkreechAh. No place I can have a quick chat?06:25
goldenearRiddell: Great, also tomorrow is "la fte de la musique"... I hope we could go for a walk in Paris. There we'll be many people playing music :)06:25
Hobbseeuh oh...i hear thumping...*sneaks quickly and quietly off to bed before she gets yelled at*06:25
RiddellDaSkreech: you'd need to e-mail her06:25
Riddellgoldenear: yes, people have said we have to go to Paris to see it06:26
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Riddellgoldenear: how are you getting here? another car might be handy06:26
goldenearRiddell: I'll guide you if want :)06:26
Riddelljane.silber@canonical.com06:26
goldenearRiddell: I've will take the RER (train) I have no car here in Paris (too boring)06:27
Riddellok06:28
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Tonio_Riddell: where are you ?06:31
RiddellTonio_: in my room06:31
Tonio_ah okay sorry ;)06:31
Riddellanything fun downstairs?06:32
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Tonio_Riddell: except aaron showing stupid videos, that quite calm :)06:39
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imbrandonRiddell, how can i get rid of this annoying message in chroot when i build something06:58
imbrandonperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").06:58
imbrandonperl: warning: Setting locale failed.06:58
imbrandonperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:06:59
imbrandon        LANGUAGE = (unset),06:59
imbrandon        LC_ALL = (unset),06:59
imbrandon        LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"06:59
imbrandon    are supported and installed on your system.06:59
imbrandon...06:59
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apacheloggerimbrandon: set LC_ALL and LANGUAGE in your chroot's env ;-)07:18
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imbrandonthanks07:18
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\shre07:42
jpatrickf/d \sh07:44
\shgrmpf....forgot to screen -r brb07:44
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lnxkdekde svn 4 debs on edgy>?07:52
\shlooks like07:53
lnxkdewell time to edgy update :D07:53
DaSkreechNot yet!07:53
lnxkde:( why!!!!!!!!!!107:53
\shit's planned...07:54
\shbut edgy is too young for that07:54
lnxkdeI see07:54
DaSkreechAnd KDE4 is young as well07:56
DaSkreechalmost immoral :(07:56
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DaSkreechlnxkde: You can go on making your alternate install in any case :)07:59
lnxkdeyeah I will :)07:59
lnxkdebut I dont have to much time lately07:59
lnxkdeworking my bussiness :)07:59
DaSkreechThen you are an apt-get dist-upgrade away from edgy07:59
DaSkreechAh well07:59
DaSkreech Blog it :) 07:59
lnxkdeblof what?08:00
lnxkdeblog what my bussines?08:00
DaSkreechOh no 08:00
DaSkreechThat's boring :) 08:00
DaSkreechThe Edgy update :)08:01
lnxkde:P08:01
lnxkdeI will08:01
lnxkdebusines is not boring!!!08:01
lnxkdewhen you are going to get more than 100,000 a years in 8 months it is not boring :D08:01
lnxkdea year*08:02
DaSkreechBut ... it's not KDE4 :(08:02
lnxkdelol08:02
lnxkde:)08:02
lnxkdeyeah I know :)08:02
bddebianHow can you get more than 100,000/year in 8 months? :-)08:02
lnxkdeselling drugs :)08:03
lnxkdena!08:03
lnxkdeI work with finances08:03
lnxkdeI am building a bussiness on life insurance, securitys (stocks), Morgages08:03
lnxkdeand some other services people need08:04
DaSkreechbddebian: very long weekends?08:04
bddebian:-)08:04
lnxkdebddebian u live were?08:04
bddebianUS08:04
lnxkdenice08:04
lnxkdeIt is a busness that lets you build a francise  08:05
lnxkdeit is part of citigroup :)08:05
lnxkdebddebian : www.primerica.com 08:06
bddebianAh yes, I am familiar08:07
bddebianIt's called a pyramind scheme ;-P08:07
lnxkdewell some people talk about it like that but when you have to take federal licences and state licences and you are paryt of the most powerfull financial company ( citigroup) the pyramid like you say becomes a very powerfull and reliable oportunity :)08:08
lnxkdeIt is very nice :) the only thing get me mad about it 08:10
lnxkdeis that the tools only run on windows :*(08:10
bddebianMade any money yet?08:10
lnxkdeyea08:12
lnxkdeI am right now at nice moment in the busness :)08:12
lnxkdeone year here :)08:12
lnxkdeI get pay as soon sell something08:13
lnxkdeit takes like 5 days to get the money in my check acount :)08:14
lnxkdeI just changed my focus to work fulltime on this08:14
bddebianSo 1 year and you haven't sold anything? :-)08:14
lnxkdewhat is why in about 8 months or so I must be in very good income 08:14
lnxkdeno, I have sold alot of things08:14
lnxkdeI am just telling you how fast I get paid08:15
lnxkdenext week I will get like 1,000 for this week activity :) that I hope today I have to nice apointments08:16
lnxkdebut well08:16
lnxkdeKDE 4 is nicer :p08:16
imbrandonRiddell, ping08:16
DaSkreechWhere can I find a German Dictionary?08:17
lnxkdeI just will like to see KDE4 and  plasma alpha realeses soon enoght08:17
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linuxmonkeyimbrandon: got something good for ya Riddell08:19
DaSkreechBanannas?08:20
imbrandonamarok 1.4.1-beta108:21
linuxmonkeyand I love it08:21
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DaSkreechIs there a kopete 0.12 in the repos?08:29
imbrandonDaSkreech, no but its on ~/riddell for testing08:30
imbrandonbah gotta fix some depends08:31
DaSkreech~/riddel?08:31
imbrandonhttp://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/08:31
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DaSkreechof course :)08:32
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lnxkdeRiddell !!08:53
lnxkdeRiddell nice litlle tv pic about linux :) and ubuntu in http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell 08:54
lnxkdegot any more?08:54
lnxkdeI like downloading videos about linux and nice opensource stuff08:54
DaSkreechTV pic?09:02
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DaSkreechlinuxmonkey does!!!09:03
DaSkreech :)09:03
claydohI would, if I could get a good 3d effect09:04
claydoh:)09:04
linuxmonkeyi got Tux on my right arm09:04
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linuxmonkeyget tux he's gonna be around for a bit09:05
DaSkreechFood?09:05
claydohya, but it won't be "rebellious" it will be common and over used :)09:06
DaSkreechI think Food will probably be relevant09:06
DaSkreechas long as it's not a pill by then :()09:06
linuxmonkeylmao09:06
linuxmonkeyDaSkreech: in your case its gonna be via a tube09:07
claydohalthough an obscenity in binary would be neat09:07
DaSkreechWhy don't people ever encode messages ofgood will?09:07
imbrandonlol09:09
linuxmonkeylol 09:09
imbrandonkubuntu in binary09:09
claydohdunno, tho an obcenity isn't necessarily bad will, just a dirty word09:09
imbrandon"Bill Gates to retire in 2008 but realy leave in 2010 becouse MS is always late kthxbye" in binary09:10
imbrandonor Unicode Hex :009:10
imbrandonUnicode UTF-8 Hex09:10
linuxmonkeybill gates retire...ya right09:11
linuxmonkeyits like that commercial hands in my pockets09:12
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Riddellimbrandon: pong09:16
Riddellimbrandon: export LANG=C09:17
linuxmonkeyRidell whats up, he's compiling the new amarok_1.4.1-beta109:17
imbrandonkk yea , i got amarok built and libvis 0.4 too09:17
imbrandonrebuilding after fixing something  now09:18
imbrandonthen i'll upload09:18
imbrandonme and linuxmonkey and nixternal been trying ti out , its VERY nice09:18
imbrandonalot of UI inprovements over 1.4.009:19
linuxmonkeyimbrandon: you about done compiling the fixed version09:22
imbrandonyea its uploading now09:22
linuxmonkeylol kk09:22
linuxmonkeyslow upload ...lol09:22
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DaSkreechHey It logged into AIM :)09:25
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imbrandonRiddell, ping ..... uploaded ready for url ?09:48
imbrandongah n/m just found something09:54
imbrandon*rebuilds*09:54
DaSkreech*laughs*09:56
DaSkreechI don't know if I can build Beats of Rage for Linux :(09:56
imbrandoni realy need to figure out how to get ccache and distcc working with debuild09:57
imbrandonlol09:58
\shis anyone going to the TB meeting?09:58
\shif so, please excuse my not attending the second time, but this umts connection is too unstable#09:58
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DaSkreechAnyone have any ideas on what would be emptying /etc/resolv.conf every 20 minutes?10:11
crimsundhclient possibly, depending on the lease period10:12
DaSkreechdhclient?10:12
DaSkreechWhy?10:13
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tomadhcp server distributes nameservers10:28
tomaor doesnt in your case10:28
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imbrandonRiddell, ping ( all done and tested this time lol )11:14
linuxmonkeylol11:17
imbrandonanyone awake thats running kde 3.5.3 and wanna try the new amarok beta ?11:18
crimsunno, but I'm running Windows.11:18
linuxmonkeylol11:19
imbrandonlol11:19
=== claydoh perk...
linuxmonkeydo we dare ask why he's running windows11:20
claydohno11:20
imbrandoni wouldent linuxmonkey11:20
claydohmaybe hes at werk11:20
linuxmonkeyit must be hell for him11:20
claydohit is for me11:20
tomahe is testing kde4...11:20
imbrandonheh11:20
linuxmonkeylmao good one toma11:21
imbrandonwindows vista , built on qt4 ;)11:21
imbrandonthat would be too funny11:21
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linuxmonkeyi put in a request for linux at work and got denied in less than 2 seconds11:22
claydohwell we only have a POS system with 3 registers and 2 cheeep dell workstations, one is the POS server11:22
claydohtake POS in any way you wish11:22
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claydohits a POS POS11:23
linuxmonkeylmao11:23
claydoh*but* we are using OOo, and FF is installed11:23
claydohthe web interface simply does not work with FF ot Konq11:23
claydohtho if I downgraded java to 1.4, i think the inventory system would work11:24
imbrandonheh11:25
imbrandondamn vendor lock in11:25
claydohamarok isn't any harder to compile than usuaal?11:25
crimsunlinuxmonkey: he's using an airport terminal11:25
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imbrandonnah well you have to use libvisual0.4 now instead of 0.2 but other than that no11:26
linuxmonkeyhack it and run a kubuntu live cd11:26
linuxmonkeylol11:26
claydohI'd be shot on sight :)11:26
crimsunlinuxmonkey: on a kiosk with no optical drive? roit...11:27
crimsunthat's some hacking11:27
nixternallol11:27
linuxmonkeylol yup11:27
nixternala kiosk w/ no external anything but a screen and some punch keys11:27
nixternalmaybe a keyboard if your lucky11:27
linuxmonkeysecurity walks up and ask what are you doing....hrmmmm securing this terminal11:28
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imbrandon_Riddell: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/  <-- amarok 1.4.1-beta1 and the required libvisual0.4 and libvisual0.4-dev ( I packaged from upstream but not in debian yet ) also setup as a repo if you want to just add my pubkey ( http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html )12:00
imbrandon_^^ i'm off to take a nap, PM me if you need something else12:00

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