[12:17] gnite. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-142-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFi [n=kvirc@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-109-126.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@80.33.64.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:00] hi imbrandon [04:01] heya Hobbsee [04:02] hey Hobbsee and imbrandon [04:02] heya nixternal === nixternal is listening to "Santeria" by Sublime [amaroK] [04:02] woohoo [04:02] jamin' and documentin' [04:02] hi nixternal === nixternal dances === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pounk [n=pounk@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:51] woohoo [06:51] it sure is quiet [06:52] it is indeed. === Hobbsee continues to fight with pbuilder. [06:53] ah ha :) [06:54] hehe [06:54] it's using *edgy* repos now, not dappers! [06:54] i have been finger boxin' the keyboard all night helpin' people out ;) [06:54] arg.. Hobbsee you just fixed my issue earlier...i was messing with pbuilder following a howto, and i set my environments to dapper [06:54] grrrr [06:54] or edgy i mean [06:55] nixternal: you can run two pbuilders, you know [06:55] it's very useful :) [06:55] that's what i'm just finishing setting up now :) [06:55] ya..i didn't get that far in the tutorial ;) [06:55] nixternal: did you figure out how to fix it? === Hobbsee is doing it complicatedly too - building in the home dir... [06:56] ya..it is in help.ubuntu.com Packaging Documentation [06:56] yeah, that's what i was using too [06:56] i am getting ready to help out jjesse with that..so i was trying it out b4 i worked on it [06:56] :) [06:57] i am not a coder really...i can read it...just can't write it type of thing...but i was trying out the packaging aspect to see if i would be confused and if we would need to dumb it down [06:57] sort of speak [06:57] ;) [06:58] actually, that packaging guide's pretty good at the moment [06:58] it shall be better for Edgy ;) [06:58] it's missing a bit on chmod +x'ing the files for the multiple [06:58] pbuilders [06:58] when we will see the next dev vercion of kubuntu and what kde will have in it? [06:58] lnxkde: the next, or the final for edgy? [06:58] october 19 for rc1 and october 26 for the release [06:59] edgy? [06:59] oh so they decided when rc1 was now? [06:59] ya [06:59] lnxkde: next version of kubuntu [06:59] one week b4 final again [06:59] nice [06:59] edgy is out? [06:59] lnxkde: kde 3.5.4 should be there [06:59] lnxkde: no [06:59] it's severely broken. [06:59] I mean in his pre alpha state [07:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule [07:00] ah yeah, so it didnt change from what i saw late last night [07:01] nope [07:01] they just made it purty [07:01] whee! k-d-s builds in edgy too! [07:01] all my scripts are working! [07:02] nice [07:02] one of these days i will be scripting with ya...i can hack code a little..but give me some hardware and Linux and it is over with ;) [07:02] yay! and it asks for signing! woot! [07:02] nixternal: hehe, you can do the documentation [07:02] you got further then i did in the docs i see ;) [07:03] what I have to do to update to edgy? [07:03] lnxkde: dont do it. [07:03] haha [07:03] nixternal: in the docs? [07:03] yup [07:03] ... [07:03] how do you mean? [07:03] you got to the signing part...im not that far following the packaging documentation yet ;) [07:03] that is all in there [07:05] hum well I have a lot of space in my PC I can make another installation of kubuntu [07:06] and updateit to edgy and play with the new stuff and report bugs [07:07] nixternal: howzat? :) [07:07] nixternal: sethk taught me about signing, maybe there should be a section on making an edgybuild / dapperbuild script there or whatever. [07:08] lnxkde: it's still very very broken at the moment, but you're welcome to [07:08] I know :) [07:08] there will be eventually Hobbsee [07:08] lnxkde: change all instances of dapper to edgy in the sources.list, and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [07:08] that is what jjesse and i have been conversing about [07:08] same as breezy --> edgy [07:09] nixternal: that'd be good [07:09] I just wanted to know if I just have to change all the dapper to edgy in my sources list and make a apt-get dist-upgrade [07:09] yep [07:09] that's the way it always works [07:09] ok thankx [07:10] can I install KDE 4 svn it? [07:11] eny KDE 4 sources for edgy ? [07:11] no [07:12] ok [07:12] i dunno about kde 4 svn... [07:12] probably [07:12] no edgy sources though [07:12] it will be nice kde4svn sources for kubuntu edgy :) testing all the new stuff :) [07:13] maybe, we'll see :P [07:13] lets get the other stuff ready first, then maybe play with kde 4 [07:13] @time paris [07:13] Current time in Europe/Paris: June 20 2006, 07:13:28 [07:13] well my time to sleep have come :) [07:13] hmmm...darn [07:13] hehe [07:13] see you laterz [07:13] see you all guys :) [07:13] bye [07:13] bye [07:36] there should be some action here soon since it is after 7:30..unless of course everyone is still passed out due to...you know ;) [07:38] hah, excessive amounts of beer? [07:38] i think that had to wait till the last night, didnt it? :P [07:38] im sure it did [07:41] @time Nice [07:41] stupid bot [07:42] hey raphink [07:42] hi Hobbsee [07:43] how are you? [07:43] raphink: was fighting with multiple pbuilders and scripts, but i have come out victorious! [07:43] great :) [07:44] yep :) [07:44] what was/were the issue(s) ? [07:44] raphink: you and i are both bad...we both call the bot stupid [07:44] had to figure out how to adapt my build script to use a set config script [07:44] and the bot can't respond ;) [07:44] nixternal: which just proves the point [07:44] haha right [07:44] raphink: i usually end up using the pdebuild, not pbuilder build *.dsc, so i had to figure out if that would still work, and how to load the config file i wanted (covered in the man pages) [07:45] oh yeah, and then how to get an edgy pbuilder (copy dapper one, upgrade it, override config) [07:45] yep [07:45] and get them all to stay in /home, not in /var/cache/* [07:45] the edgy pbuilder doesn't work yet iirc [07:45] I had to set an edgy chroot for this reason [07:45] it does - copy dapper, upgrade with --override-config [07:46] it's just debhelper that's still borked [07:46] Hobbsee: I couldn't build doing that [07:46] yep [07:46] raphink: you couldnt? === Hobbsee cleaned the chroot first, then did. [07:46] whereas in a chroot you could force installing debhelper [07:46] true, i think === raphink searches for his head to put it all together [07:47] hehe [07:48] raphink: try cleaning the pbuilder, copying the base.tar.gz and the other files (not the apt.config) and then sudo pbuilder update --override config [07:48] raphink: try cleaning the pbuilder, copying the base.tar.gz and the other files (not the apt.config) and then sudo pbuilder update --override-config [07:48] or just create a new dapper one, then upgrade it [07:48] take your pick [07:48] yes [07:48] I know how to do ;) [07:49] that's what i thought - which is why i was surprised you hadnt been able to make it work quicker than i had [07:50] well I guess I tried to upgrade it on a bad day [07:50] anyway, my machine is in pieces now [07:50] my sister is getting it here tonight [07:50] from Paris [07:50] so I'll have my build machine in local ;) [07:50] ooh fun :) [07:50] hehe [07:51] she's coming for a few days and said "at least I can have the internet at home" [07:51] and I said to her : "sure, if you bring a computer, cause I'm bringing mine to work" [07:51] ;) [07:51] hehe [07:51] so she's bringing my desktop :) [07:52] although I got a desktop at work yesterday ;) === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:18] hiya \sh [08:18] raphink: nice, one can never have too many computers :P [08:18] sure [08:18] hehe [08:18] <\sh> moins [08:19] <\sh> sarah joined, sarah quit...frightend to talk with me ? [08:19] moinmoin === raphink doesn't want to get in the middle of a heart affair [08:19] <\sh> rotfl [08:19] \sh: not at all [08:19] haha [08:20] <\sh> raphink: are you in paris now? [08:20] I wish I were \h [08:20] but no [08:20] \sh: the first time was to just see if i could keep my kde sound while having TS running, and the second time i left cos it looked like no one was around and active [08:20] I'm on the riviera, about to go to work [08:21] <\sh> raphink: that's a shame...you should be there...can you use TS in your office? [08:21] we are 8 people in my office [08:21] <\sh> Hobbsee: I just joined .. looks like we are the first ones alive [08:21] I mean in the room [08:21] \sh: actually, yeah, you're just big and scary :P [08:21] \sh: i think so too, shame on them. [08:21] <\sh> BIG and SCARY? === Hobbsee pictures the big mean scary \sh beast. [08:22] <\sh> raphink: I have 30 people around me, and I just use it...I don't care about the others when it goes to talk to the others :) [08:22] hehe [08:23] <\sh> Hobbsee: I'm not a big mean scary beast...well, not all day long ;) [08:23] hehe [08:23] sure sure... [08:24] \sh just most of the day right :D [08:24] <\sh> nixternal: yeah...and during the night I'm a real nice guy...when I sleep [08:24] heh [08:24] this thing is being highly annoying. [08:24] everytime you log onto jabber..you are a big mean scary beast...as your pictures lights up the top right hand corner of my desktop letting me know you have logged on ;) === Hobbsee doesnt have \sh on jabber === Hobbsee doesnt have most people on jabber, actually [08:25] lol [08:25] im nixternal on everything [08:25] \sh: there :P [08:25] aim, msn, yahoo, gmail, jabber.kubuntu.de [08:25] you name it [08:26] yeah, same here pretty much - except for aim [08:26] i couldnt have hobbsee for aim, so i didnt bother. [08:26] lol === raphink doesn't have hobbsee on jabber [08:26] raphink: hobbsee@jabber.org [08:26] i don't have anybody [08:26] ;) [08:26] morning \sh [08:26] <\sh> hehe [08:26] i have 6 messanger accounts and like 3 full time contacts [08:26] my brother, my x, and \sh [08:26] lol [08:27] \sh: there you go, i can talk :P [08:27] but i get messages all day long from people out of the forums [08:27] <\sh> Hobbsee: hehehe [08:27] <\sh> hobbsee has a voice...really :) [08:27] hehe [08:28] i do, i just try not to use it. [08:28] raphink: adn other devs - feel free to add. [08:28] anyone alive on ts yet? [08:28] nixternal: \sh and myself, yes [08:28] lol [08:28] thats it? [08:28] <\sh> and /me goes and have a smokers bof now.. [08:28] they are hungover for sure in paris then ;) [08:28] smokin' = bad [08:29] true [08:29] urgh === Hobbsee will not be joining. [08:29] hehe [08:29] i quit 3 years ago [08:29] woohoo [08:29] nixternal: feel free to join on TS [08:29] roger that [08:29] lemme hook my killer $1 headset up ;) [08:31] hehe [08:31] i forgot my key to talk [08:31] LOL [08:31] lol! [08:31] set a new one - just not spacebar :P [08:31] haha [08:32] it is the windows key [08:32] ah, well you should be able to remember that [08:32] can you hear me at all? [08:32] nixternal: no [08:32] hmm [08:32] nixternal: in alsamixer, turn the mic up full, then hit f4 [08:33] check that LR capture is above mic, and turn up the gain to about 80 [08:33] it worked b4 [08:33] check that the mic boost is on too === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] hey Lure [08:34] hi Hobbsee === raphink puts on his shoes and goes to work [08:35] hop [08:35] bye raphink - enjoy! [08:36] anybody participated on UDS over TS? I can not as firewall at work does not let me through :-( [08:37] Lure: bits and pieces - they're having a lot of trouble with it [08:37] not everyone has mics - it's quite static-y [08:37] but i'ts better than nothing [08:37] mostly. [08:37] ok, I will just follow wiki page update and ping Riddell if I need ;-) [08:38] Lure: okay hehe [08:45] <\sh> nixternal: I didn't hear you on TS :) say something [08:45] my mic isn't working all of a sudden [08:45] <\sh> I see you mic is open but nothing comes through [08:45] let me reboot [08:46] my mic was working earlier... === profoXP [i=d00f@d54C0FBA7.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === profoXP is now known as profoX` [08:59] hi Lure [08:59] morning Riddell [08:59] moring Hobbsee [08:59] morning [09:00] thingy [09:00] yeah. morning at 5pm :P [09:00] <\sh> moins Riddell ... already had a nice caf au lait? [09:01] I had some fruit salad and grapefruit juice thank you [09:01] <\sh> not a typical french breakfast ;) [09:02] hehe - you'll have to find him one tomorrow \sh === nixternal kicks his mic [09:05] hmm, http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-20/ === Hobbsee goes to look for items of interest [09:06] nothing kde based there, that i see. hmmm. [09:06] yes, hmm [09:07] I need to talk to mdz [09:07] go find him? [09:07] oh cool, you made it to TS :P === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee_@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@80.11.69.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-164-19-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-229-90.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:22] Riddell: where are you? :) [09:24] hey mornfall [09:24] mornfall: i think he was searching out mdz or something [09:26] he's at the table now ;-) [09:27] *yawn* [09:28] ARGH [09:28] mornfall: yes, so i see with my extra good eyes :P [09:29] Hobbsee: any other tricks you can think of? [09:29] nixternal: hmmm...about the mic? not really [09:30] its weird because it worked fine yesterday [09:30] sup? [09:31] his mic is buggered [09:31] sblive [09:31] hi kwwii [09:31] which is oss from the looks of lsmod === Tonio__ [n=tonio@80.11.69.23] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:35] Kubuntu Schedule! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuParisSummit [09:35] where's Tonio__? [09:36] Riddell: what day? [09:36] that's today? [09:37] Riddell: I'm there why ? [09:37] Tonio__: I can't see you [09:37] Hobbsee: that's today yes [09:37] IRC : the place where you can find people you can't see in real life [09:38] :) === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Kubuntu Schedule! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuParisSummit | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings Mon 26th 21:00UTC [09:38] darn, wish i could be there for the poewr management [09:38] hehe [09:38] well [09:38] the wireless here is not particularly good [09:38] Riddell: look at elmo's table [09:38] it's from t he posiedon place [09:38] so closer to that could be better [09:38] people with ideas where it is? :) [09:38] where's elmo! [09:39] hiding from you [09:40] i actually prefer quiet place to a good network [09:40] i get link quality somewhere around 30%, very jumpy [09:41] just no power plugs [09:42] there's some power and same crappy signal outside of the atlas room [09:43] however, as far as i go, the atlas room itself is pretty useless [09:44] mornfall: run a very long cable? [09:44] not that i have one :p [09:44] find one :P [09:46] Sirenia -- Seven Sirens and a Silver Tear [09:46] i don't even have an AP [09:47] to hook on it [09:47] ah :( [09:47] or a switch [09:47] The Gathering -- Saturnine [09:48] i'll go downstairs again, bbiab [09:48] mornfall: what the heck is that? some script or somthing? [09:48] mornfall: I have a really long cable if you need one === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-164-19-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [10:00] <\sh> hey kwwii [10:01] great, 25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 25435ms [10:02] link quality floats just below 50% [10:02] ouch [10:02] seems stable === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] i'm even on AC [10:05] if someone gets a powerstrip, it should be fine [10:06] mornfall: using wifi? [10:07] \sh: we're watching a talk just now, session not yet started [10:07] <\sh> Riddell: ok...anyways..I'll record the bof :) have a meeting now [10:07] Riddell: yes === ervin [n=ipsquad@kde/ervin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] tada! [10:09] heya ervin === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === [ervin] [n=ipsquad@ALagny-109-1-2-23.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === [ervin] is now known as ervin === hunger [n=tobias@p54A60F18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne wishes launchpad info would stop moving about all over the page [11:11] seaLne: what's moving about? [11:12] the bug reporter name is now top right === [ervin] [n=ipsquad@ALagny-109-1-2-23.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === [ervin] is now known as ervin === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] anyone got a couple of min to help me try to understand a debian patch to k3b? 5th section of changes on http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-k3b?op=comp&compare%5B%5D=%2Fk3b%2Ftrunk%2Fplugins%2Fproject%2Faudiometainforenamer%2F@23&compare%5B%5D=%2Fk3b%2Ftrunk%2Fplugins%2Fproject%2Faudiometainforenamer%2F@161&manualorder=1 kde_module_LTLIBRARIES [12:31] audiometainforenamer and audioprojectcddb are the only plugins/project stuff to use lib_LTLIBRARIES rather than kde_module_LTLIBRARIES is this a bug fix to upstream? [12:34] <\sh> changelog of debian maintainer? [12:34] Riddell: hi, saw your changes to KubuntuLaptopButtons changes. Why is the plan to restrict, e.g., XFAudioPlay to amarok? Wouldn't it be better if e.g. a video player has focus to let this app catch the key event? One can assign several keycodes to an KDE action. [12:37] \sh: i'm trying to match, nasty everything in the diff.gz file, to what they do and seperate them out to merge back with us [12:37] i cna't see anyting obvious that relates to it === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:42] <\sh> seaLne: well, it's a change in the autofoo build system..I think there is an upstream issue with using lib_LTLIBRARIES, because those modules are more DSOs, which are not linked but loaded at runtime...so kde_module_LTLIBRARIES is a special macro for it, to tag them as DSO/plugins/whatever [12:43] <\sh> seaLne: is this a difference between debian and upstream? this autofoo change in k3b? [12:44] well changing lib_LTLIBRARIES to kde_module_LTLIBRARIES in plugins/project/audioprojectcddb/Makefile.am and plugins/project/audiometainforenamer/Makefile.am [12:47] amarok-1.4.1 support gstreamer again [12:47] <\sh> seaLne: yes, but it's not from upstream version 0.12.15? [12:47] no its debian change to upstream === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@80.11.152.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] \sh very weird it was fixed in svn 10 months ago [01:02] <\sh> seaLne: debian svn or upstream svn? [01:03] kdesvn [01:04] atleast that explains where the patch came from [01:27] allee: sure, add to that page for kaffeine too === Lure_ [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] hi Lure_ [02:01] Riddell: hi - I will not be able to participate over TS, as it does not work through firewall at work :-( === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] hi all [02:32] hi Hobbsee [02:32] heya Hobbsee [02:33] hey imbrandon [02:33] hi allee - LTNS! [02:34] imbrandon: i got it working :D [02:34] Hobbsee: yeah, had wonderful holidays and the stressful time to only halfway catch up with what happened ;) [02:34] nice :) [02:35] Hobbsee, nice, but what is "it" heheh [02:36] Hobbsee: some guy publish binary kopete-0,12 with jingle support on kde-apps.org [02:36] imbrandon: multiple pbuilders, like i was fighting with earlier [02:36] ahhh great [02:36] freeflying|away: great :) [02:36] very good news [02:36] but still don't know how can he do that :) === imbrandon is working on getting confrence calls on an asterick voip box [02:37] freeflying|away: unpack it? [02:38] Hobbsee: no, he has no source package [02:38] isnt it possible to unpack debs? [02:39] yea Hobbsee but it may not contain the src [02:39] only binary [02:39] you'd only need the control file [02:39] maybe if he dident patch something ;) [02:40] hobbsee: /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/pbuilder-distribution.sh is nice for multiple distros and pbuilder. [02:41] uniq: yes, it's listed on the !pbuilder link too, and a modified version ofi t [02:41] ok, i didn't know that :) [02:42] :) [02:42] Hobbsee: sure, you can unpack binary package using dpkg [02:42] imbrandon: was there anything interesting in the meetings? [02:42] freeflying|away: and wouldnt that get you to the source? [02:42] or it doesnt work that way? [02:42] back to work. [02:42] Hobbsee: ya [02:43] wouldn't that just give you lots of binary files and some scripts? [02:43] therefore wouldnt you just copy the stuff in the control file as a result? === Hobbsee hasnt tried it. she should. [02:43] seaLne: true [02:44] don't think it gives you enough of debian/ ? [02:44] oh ok [02:44] no, just scripts for install and control file for binary's only [02:45] Hobbsee, no i think they all gavce up on voip, thus i'm on my quest to make a better voip solution , and looking at existing ones [02:46] ah okay.. === Hobbsee wonders how the meetings went on kubuntu power [02:46] Riddell: any summaries of them, or are they in the specs? [02:48] Hobbsee: me too (regarding power) ;-) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] okay, i wonder how this gobby works... [02:54] neat, but no one's on it. [02:55] heh [02:55] hi jsgotangco [02:56] hi! [02:56] jsgotangco: how's life in your part of the world? [02:57] hmmm not bad, its only 3pm and about to go upstairs for a BOF im beside henrik, Janimo and TheMuso === Hobbsee thought TheMuso was still here. interesting. [02:58] what BOF? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] Lure: i dont see a gobby session about it [03:17] Hobbsee: power isn't written up [03:17] ah ok [03:17] Riddell: how'd it go? [03:17] well I thought it went great :) [03:18] Riddell: did you decide on much, or we'll just wait to hear... === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.34.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-023-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] Hobbsee: we decided to write our own one [04:10] Riddell: nice :) === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [04:10] Riddell: own PM GUI? [04:10] Riddell: were you interested in amarok 1.4.1 beta 1 packages, btw? === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:19] Hobbsee: do it [04:20] Riddell: okay. one of the build deps isnt actually in kubuntu - only in your kde 3.5.3 packages [04:23] Hobbsee: just build them against kde 3.5.3 then [04:23] Hobbsee: what's the dep? [04:23] that kde kiosk mode is nice [04:23] jsgotangco: you saw arran's demo? [04:23] Riddell: libexscalibar1-dev [04:24] Riddell: we're here upstairs for edubuntu [04:24] Riddell: we'll be comparing it with sabayon tomorrow [04:24] Hobbsee: that's from my amarok packages I think [04:24] so just reuse the same package [04:25] hmmm...wonder how you do that... [04:26] Hobbsee: install it on your system and make sure the package is included in any archive you put amarok into [04:27] i was running it thru a pbuilder...but ok [04:27] oh, dunno about with pbuilder [04:27] I'd just use a plain chroot === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] hmmm...drat [04:28] guess i'll have to figure out how to make a chroot then. [04:28] sudo debootstrap --variant buildd mychrootdir dapper === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:32] Riddell: E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/buildd [04:33] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsgotangco/171289343/ [04:33] heh [04:33] Hello folks [04:33] hey bddebian! [04:34] Hi Hobbsee [04:34] hey Riddell - looks like people think you've got a distro named after you hehe [04:34] heh === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:39] okay, i get idiot of the day award. [04:39] *shines it* [04:40] Where would you like your name? [04:40] on the plaque or the glowing hologram above it? [04:42] i dunno. darn, it *still* doesnt want to work. imbrandon wants to do it :P === Hobbsee will stick to her pbuilder. [04:42] i got the chroot already setup with kde3.5.3 [04:42] what needs building ? [04:42] <\sh> jsgotangco: hehe.... [04:42] Ok So what do I need to read to build a deb for Ubuntu? [04:43] re [04:43] DaSkreech, lots of things ;) [04:43] Riddell: had a look at kopete? [04:44] apachelogger, he put it up on ~riddell/kopete with the changes you me and freeflying made [04:44] hey apachelogger [04:44] ahoy Hobbsee [04:44] and Hobbsee ^^ hehe [04:44] imbrandon: cool [04:44] apachelogger: did you get my email RE kopete, and the changes that i wanted made to it? [04:45] ie, did they occur? [04:45] i think https://launchpad.net/bugs/50454 is a won't fix reject? [04:45] Malone bug 50454 in kdebase "KDM should display users list" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [04:45] Thanks Hobbsee [04:45] can ubotu pipe as well? :) [04:45] Hobbsee: don't think so [04:45] DaSkreech: yeah [04:45] seaLne, yea thats just a kdm theme issue === apachelogger asks kmail [04:45] apachelogger: would have been from hobbsee@kubuntu.org [04:46] nothing :S [04:46] apachelogger: i can tell you here anyway, if you didnt get it - did you add the jasper b-d? [04:46] and d? [04:46] japser b and d? === DaSkreech wants to see if he can get Beats of Rage in [04:47] apachelogger: requires libjasper-runtime as a dep, and libjasper-1.701-dev as a build-dep - i'm havent tested without the second one there, but i'm fairly sure it would need both [04:47] and that brings in the other jasper package as a shlibdepends [04:48] oh yeah, and i wanted to be mentioned in the changelog too :P [04:48] libjasper(dev) is depend of kdelibs(dev)/kdebase(dev) === Hobbsee thinks that was all [04:48] oh is it? cool [04:48] you're in changelog of latest revision ;-) [04:48] just the libjasper-runtime then [04:48] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2435 [04:48] yep [04:48] heh, i think i'm in the initial debianization too :P [04:48] well [04:49] but yeah [04:49] not very much stuff from you ;-) [04:49] hah [04:49] yes, i started it, then handed it onto freeflying when i was having trouble getting it to build. [04:49] though I have no problem with, if you want me to I'll edit that [04:49] apachelogger: the reason i dont upload much in the way of source packages is that i have a fairly slow upload connection :P [04:49] 56k? [04:50] i think it's 128 === apachelogger got 254 ;-) [04:50] lucky you :P === imbrandon has 768 [04:50] up === DaSkreech has 56k :) [04:51] :P [04:51] apachelogger: i know i'm being painful, but i would, yeah :) === DaSkreech considers new conpiracy theory :) [04:56] up we go :) [04:56] apachelogger: :) thanks === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:15] Hobbsee: where that? [05:15] Hi Riddell [05:15] Riddell: where's what in particular? oh, it was in #kubuntu [05:15] Lure: so, power manager stuff [05:15] Hobbsee: distro named after me [05:15] yes, #kubuntu [05:15] Riddell: speak up! ;-) [05:16] Lure: klaptopdaemon is crap but kpowersave and powersaved duplicates far too much stuff that's in ubuntu already [05:16] Lure: if you look at gnome-power-manager it's not a lot of code [05:16] Riddell: correct [05:16] Lure: so writing a frontend to HAL that does brightness shouldn'b too hard === Hobbsee listens in [05:16] Riddell: because of gnome's simplicity to the minimum... [05:17] Lure: we had ervin here who's doing Solid and he says it would be a good test case for Solid === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:17] Solid is based on dbus/hal? [05:17] s/brightness/brightness and suspend etc/ [05:17] Lure: it will have a hal backend yes [05:17] but Solid is kde4, right? [05:17] <\sh> "Solid"? [05:18] we wouldn't use solid but it would show that you can use hal with kde [05:18] ok, so it will show the way for Solid... [05:18] Lure: yes [05:19] So we need kde-guidance PM module and new tray module, right? [05:19] yes [05:19] or would you do all config just in tray like gpm? [05:19] probaly all from the tray [05:20] there should not be much if we go with minimalistic aproach... [05:20] tray - if most people cant figure out how to install a theme thru system settings, they wont be able to get the laptop thing working either :P [05:20] we probably need to spec what we want to have in [05:21] Lure: yes, I'm writing that now, and we've got notes on the config UI from el [05:21] good... [05:21] Hobbsee: they won't eed to work anythin out, it should work fine out the box [05:22] Riddell: true, but sometimes people like changing their settings === Tonio_ [n=tonio@80.11.152.42] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:22] hey Tonio_ [05:22] Hobbsee: the only setting is probably what to do on Suspend key and what to do on low-power condition (if we look like gpm) [05:22] \sh: http://solid.kde.org [05:22] hi Tonio_ [05:23] Lure: true - would there be different settings for if the laptop is on AC vs battery power? [05:23] like in kpowersave? [05:23] or would we lose that? [05:23] hey Lure [05:23] Hobbsee: yes, we'd have different settings for plugged in and unplugged [05:23] Riddell: cool :) === Hobbsee half suspects that she'd at least be able to read Lure's code for it, if it were small. [05:24] Hobbsee: maybe - if we think it is important... But the issue with schema/profile is that it is hard to set it properly and then users do not do it at all [05:24] this is why good defaults are better than complex config options (imho) [05:25] Hobbsee: who said that I will write the code ;-)? [05:25] Lure: true...maybe blank screen screensaver on battery power? suspends more quickly on battery than on AC [05:25] Hobbsee: our super-Riddell will do it (we have seen his powers with Dapper ;-)) [05:25] Lure: true, oh, you were on *looking at the code* duty, not writing it [05:25] hehe [05:25] Super Cow powers? [05:26] Ponnie Powers [05:26] imbrandon: noyoucannothaveapony. [05:26] Hobbsee: yes, I think we need to write use-cases like the one you mention above and then discuss what make sense and what now [05:26] s/now/not/ [05:26] what what? [05:26] heya mornfall - you can go back to sleep :P [05:26] i was not asleep [05:26] :'( === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:27] oh yeah, it's time for me to sleep, not you to [05:27] as much as I like kpowersave interface, I have also found out that at the end I do not use it that much, therefore it is questionable if needed in whole [05:27] Hobbsee, edgy eft +11 == Power Pony kthxbye [05:27] wtf? === Hobbsee does to imbrandon what she did to bddebian earlier. [05:28] mornfall, its a running joke in -devel / -motu about ponies [05:28] heh [05:28] the wtf goes to the kthxbye [05:28] /. ? [05:28] Lure: +1 [05:28] ahh thats a l337 h4xor joke ( bad one at that ) [05:28] (which is basically an euphemism for go fuck yourself as far is i know) [05:29] h4XX0r, come on man :) [05:29] mornfall, basicly unless ment in the playfull way it was said ;) [05:29] ookey [05:30] lol @ bddebian [05:30] mornfall: also a satire of the "oh please can you help me questoins, when they leave about 30 seconds later" [05:31] Riddell: could you maybe poke el whether she has my headphones? :)) [05:31] mornfall: I'm in my room [05:32] damn [05:32] let's try ervin [05:32] Where's the paris-following-page? [05:32] DaSkreech: /topic === Hobbsee would be hesitant to do anything mic related now. [05:33] Ah knew I saw it somewhere :) [05:33] haha [05:33] Riddell, while in paris hold a gun to the person responsible for the cert warning and make them fix it infront of you LOL [05:34] +25 imbrandon [05:34] just make sure you dont fire it :P [05:34] that might not be a popular idea if we killed the canonical sysadmin [05:34] right right , no bullets in the gun, just scare them ;) [05:34] haha [05:35] haha [05:35] and we might find a lot of unanswered support requests in future after that [05:35] lol [05:35] right right , no bullets in the gun, just scare them ;) [05:35] Riddell: you wouldnt want his job instead? [05:36] Hobbsee, *still building* [05:36] ;) [05:36] http://italy.copybase.ch/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/ [05:36] ^^ Insta broken system ^^ [05:37] <\sh> DaSkreech: kinda [05:37] imbrandon: hah [05:37] i'd hate to think how long it would take here then. [05:37] shiznit [05:37] just errored [05:37] *looks* [05:38] right at the end too when doing the dh_* [05:38] grrr [05:39] ooh, pictures! === Lure -> home (bbl) [05:39] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/archives/date-posted/2006/06/19/detail/ has my pics [05:39] moin everyone [05:39] and we got dapper CDs! [05:40] hola nixternal [05:40] heya nixternal [05:40] DAPPER CD!!! [05:40] well, a blog and pictures :P [05:40] you suxor === Hobbsee want! [05:40] <\sh> uh oh ah...aron looks awful .. === nixternal got dapper cd's === Hobbsee doesnt want to have to recovery a hard drive again with a kubuntu hoary cd. [05:40] Riddell, those from paris ? [05:40] that was just scary. === \sh needs around 5-10k in november ;) [05:41] imbrandon: yes [05:41] dodgem cars, i was never allowed on them :( [05:41] Hobbsee: whyever not? [05:41] Riddell: age limit of >12 [05:41] lol [05:42] i still ride em any chance i get ;) [05:42] errr where did you ride the bumpcar? disneyland? [05:42] jsgotangco: was that to me? [05:42] jsgotangco: you know kiddie land? [05:42] Hobbsee: crazy [05:42] no [05:42] chicago [05:42] jsgotangco: in the village down the road, they had a fete on Sunday === jsgotangco only went to the louvre, eiffel and notre dame with mdz and aseigo [05:42] ahhh [05:42] and then luna park closed down pretty soon after that - and dad's work didnt give us all tickets there again :P [05:43] There is work to get Ubuntu on OLPC? [05:44] DaSkreech: we have some OLPC people here, but red hat is mostly funding it [05:44] well, mostly as in more than any other distro [05:44] yeah [05:44] I know. What place would Ubuntu have? [05:44] It's a medium priority on the Paris schedule [05:44] some of their customers might want to run ubuntu on it [05:45] DaSkreech: its rodovarus' job to do that =) [05:45] but I don't care either way, it's unlikely to have KDE on it === Hobbsee contemplates. food or sleep. it's almost 2am. [05:45] heh [05:45] :-) [05:45] food THEN sleep ;) [05:45] hmmm.... [05:45] Hobbsee: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580748 [05:46] Hobbsee / Riddell .... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/721141 [05:46] oh, looks like we're going to have a fun bit for our next kubuntu meeting too... [05:46] DaSkreech: hah, nice [05:46] a user talking about the privacy settings of kopete [05:46] imbrandon: *.pastebin.com is dying... [05:47] i see , whats another pastebin [05:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions [05:47] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [05:47] ignore the first link - copy key didnt work correctly [05:48] lol i was like wtf [05:48] lol [05:48] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16091 [05:48] ^^ Hobbsee / Riddell [05:49] i want a kubuntu mug ;( [05:49] nixternal: I have one right here [05:49] with a hot tea in it :) [05:49] heheh [05:49] where did you get it? [05:49] imbrandon: you're probably missing some build-dep [05:49] cafeepress will make a mug with any logo [05:49] finish the tea and email me the cup ;) [05:49] Yeah bring that up in Paris :) [05:50] nixternal: at linuxtag :) [05:50] ahhh [05:50] kubuntu.de has kubuntu mugs [05:50] Riddell, i installed all it called for [05:50] roger that...im on it [05:50] imbrandon: See It's even Kustomizable. It's much more KDE like :-) [05:50] apt-get install kubuntu-mug [05:50] imbrandon: libvisual0.2-dev is a b-d? [05:50] but i used the debian dir from 1.4.0a [05:50] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2457 [05:50] Hobbsee, not sure i'll look [05:50] imbrandon: you use 1.4.0's rules for amarok-1.4.1-beta1 ? [05:50] apachelogger: what's changed? [05:51] debianizer is now Hobbsee, dep against jasper-runtime [05:51] [10:50] apt-get install kubuntu-mug [05:51] what repository is that in ? [05:51] goodies [05:51] superduperverse [05:51] deb cafepress.com ./ [05:52] superdeverse LOL [05:52] deb will work with a .com extenesion? [05:52] deb http://kubuntu.org/ubuntu dapper goodies [05:52] imbrandon: er, libvisual0.2-dev is already a b-d [05:52] nixternal: sure [05:52] apachelogger: cool [05:53] nixternal: did you ever notice that you use archive.ubuntu.COM in your sources.list ? [05:53] Hobbsee, yea it is [05:53] *thinks* [05:53] freeflying-g4, yes i did [05:53] ahhh ga [05:53] hehe [05:54] imbrandon: heh, you'd modify it === Hobbsee beds [05:55] gnight Hobbsee === Hobbsee wonders why her bed always grows piles of stuff while she's not looking. [05:55] nigh Hobbsee [05:55] .o0(Mushrooms?) [05:56] Riddell: should be complete now - finally ;-) [05:56] should, yes :P [05:57] Riddell, is there a better way to build 1.4.1 other than comping the debian/* from 1.4.0a ? IE whats the prefered way ? [05:57] imbrandon: that sounds like the best way [05:58] hrm ok , here is what i did === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:59] i make the orig.tar.gz from the upstream tar.bz2 and then untared it , copied the debian/* from 1.4.0a and changed the changelog and debuild ( did a apt-get build-dep amarok before all that ) [05:59] thats the error from debuild [05:59] hrm .... [06:00] imbrandon: also you may add the amarok-gstreamer,this release support gstreamer [06:01] nah [06:01] better don't do that [06:01] gst is kind of absolutely not working [06:01] only local media [06:01] freeflying-g4, if i can get it to build yes ( even though xine is better IMHO lol ) [06:01] streams will crash, or lag lag lag [06:01] btw [06:02] the problem is that 1.4.1-beta1 depends on libvisual 0.4 [06:02] not 0.2 [06:02] hrm looks [06:02] to quote myself: "* Now libvisual 0.4 is needed for visualisations" ;-) [06:02] doh [06:02] ok lemme go change that [06:03] imbrandon: to meet the build-dep you'd add kubuntu's repo [06:03] freeflying-g4, i did / have [06:03] re [06:03] freeflying-g4, i have all the kubuntu repos in the chroot [06:03] apachelogger, E: Couldn't find package libvisual0.4-dev [06:04] imbrandon: might need to package that too? [06:04] 0.4 is not in repo [06:04] nice [06:04] lol [06:05] apachelogger, got the src deb's for it ? [06:05] or should i just grab upstream === Hobbsee recalls that apachelogger *is* part of upstream [06:05] lol [06:05] besides, how do you have src debs? isnt that an oxymoron? [06:06] somehow :P [06:06] src for the debs [06:06] ;) [06:06] imbrandon: so, sources for ...? [06:06] libvis or Amarok? [06:06] amarok [06:06] err [06:06] libvis [06:06] nope [06:06] i got amarok [06:06] I'm not sure whether 0.4 is in debian at all [06:06] probbly not === Hobbsee really beds this time. [06:09] nite Hobbsee [06:10] night Hobbsee [06:10] knite Hobbsee [06:11] apachelogger: hahahahaha! [06:12] DaSkreech: huh? [06:12] Instead of Gnight. Knite? [06:14] I have someone in the office nearly the same way [06:14] hehe [06:14] Won't use anything with a k in it Esp. if it's at the start of the word/name/sentence [06:14] just for the holy Krail ;-) === goldenear [n=user@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell throws https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPowerManagement out [06:17] at the channel [06:18] Hi Riddell [06:18] hi goldenear, where are you? [06:18] Sorry I had many work during the last couple of day [06:19] boab also no longer has kubuntu-desktop [06:19] Riddell: I should be at the conference tomorrow afternoon [06:19] goldenear: great [06:20] goldenear: bring a sleepnig bag, you can sleep with the others on the floor of my room :) === Hobbsee avoids the flying wiki link [06:20] seaLne: actually not for edgy, but good point [06:20] Hobbsee, thought you was asleep ;) [06:20] haha, that could be fun :P [06:20] Hobbsee: !! Bed!!! [06:20] yeah well...i'm going i'm going.. [06:20] my room is lit only by my computer screen now, does that count? === DaSkreech laughs. You are as bad as I am [06:21] and dont take the laptop to bed with you [06:21] Riddell: I hope we'll have time to speak about oskar [06:21] imbrandon: hah - it overheats if i do that :P [06:21] goldenear: will you be here any other days? [06:21] well, it might [06:21] ;) [06:21] Riddell: I will try to do it [06:22] Riddell: It depends on my work.. if they don't need me, I will be with you :) [06:22] right [06:22] we should be able to schedule in oskar UI session for tomorrow [06:23] Riddell: Do you know anything about landscape? [06:23] Riddell: wow, what's the diagram thing made out of ? === DaSkreech was wondering the same thing [06:23] that looks really nice! === \sh is now known as \sh_away [06:24] Hobbsee: inkscape [06:24] DaSkreech: nothing [06:24] Who would> [06:24] DaSkreech: jane silb [06:24] silber [06:24] I get kind fo worried when empty packages get installed on everyon'e computer [06:25] ubuntu-devel? [06:25] she's not on ubuntu-devel [06:25] Ah. No place I can have a quick chat? [06:25] Riddell: Great, also tomorrow is "la fte de la musique"... I hope we could go for a walk in Paris. There we'll be many people playing music :) [06:25] uh oh...i hear thumping...*sneaks quickly and quietly off to bed before she gets yelled at* [06:25] DaSkreech: you'd need to e-mail her [06:26] goldenear: yes, people have said we have to go to Paris to see it === DaSkreech hunts the wiki for contact info [06:26] goldenear: how are you getting here? another car might be handy [06:26] Riddell: I'll guide you if want :) [06:26] jane.silber@canonical.com [06:27] Riddell: I've will take the RER (train) I have no car here in Paris (too boring) [06:28] ok === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:31] Riddell: where are you ? [06:31] Tonio_: in my room [06:31] ah okay sorry ;) [06:32] anything fun downstairs? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:39] Riddell: except aaron showing stupid videos, that quite calm :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@ALagny-109-1-10-42.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] Riddell, how can i get rid of this annoying message in chroot when i build something [06:58] perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). [06:58] perl: warning: Setting locale failed. [06:59] perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: [06:59] LANGUAGE = (unset), [06:59] LC_ALL = (unset), [06:59] LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" [06:59] are supported and installed on your system. 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[07:53] <\sh> looks like [07:53] well time to edgy update :D [07:53] Not yet! [07:53] :( why!!!!!!!!!!1 [07:54] <\sh> it's planned... [07:54] <\sh> but edgy is too young for that [07:54] I see [07:56] And KDE4 is young as well [07:56] almost immoral :( === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:59] lnxkde: You can go on making your alternate install in any case :) [07:59] yeah I will :) [07:59] but I dont have to much time lately [07:59] working my bussiness :) [07:59] Then you are an apt-get dist-upgrade away from edgy [07:59] Ah well [07:59] Blog it :) [08:00] blof what? [08:00] blog what my bussines? [08:00] Oh no [08:00] That's boring :) [08:01] The Edgy update :) [08:01] :P [08:01] I will [08:01] busines is not boring!!! [08:01] when you are going to get more than 100,000 a years in 8 months it is not boring :D [08:02] a year* [08:02] But ... it's not KDE4 :( [08:02] lol [08:02] :) [08:02] yeah I know :) [08:02] How can you get more than 100,000/year in 8 months? :-) [08:03] selling drugs :) [08:03] na! [08:03] I work with finances [08:03] I am building a bussiness on life insurance, securitys (stocks), Morgages [08:04] and some other services people need [08:04] bddebian: very long weekends? [08:04] :-) [08:04] bddebian u live were? [08:04] US [08:04] nice [08:05] It is a busness that lets you build a francise [08:05] it is part of citigroup :) [08:06] bddebian : www.primerica.com [08:07] Ah yes, I am familiar [08:07] It's called a pyramind scheme ;-P [08:08] well some people talk about it like that but when you have to take federal licences and state licences and you are paryt of the most powerfull financial company ( citigroup) the pyramid like you say becomes a very powerfull and reliable oportunity :) [08:10] It is very nice :) the only thing get me mad about it [08:10] is that the tools only run on windows :*( [08:10] Made any money yet? [08:12] yea [08:12] I am right now at nice moment in the busness :) [08:12] one year here :) [08:13] I get pay as soon sell something [08:14] it takes like 5 days to get the money in my check acount :) [08:14] I just changed my focus to work fulltime on this [08:14] So 1 year and you haven't sold anything? :-) [08:14] what is why in about 8 months or so I must be in very good income [08:14] no, I have sold alot of things [08:15] I am just telling you how fast I get paid [08:16] next week I will get like 1,000 for this week activity :) that I hope today I have to nice apointments [08:16] but well [08:16] KDE 4 is nicer :p [08:16] Riddell, ping [08:17] Where can I find a German Dictionary? [08:17] I just will like to see KDE4 and plasma alpha realeses soon enoght === DaSkreech wants Tenor sooooooooo bad now [08:19] imbrandon: got something good for ya Riddell [08:20] Banannas? [08:21] amarok 1.4.1-beta1 [08:21] and I love it === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-18-111.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:29] Is there a kopete 0.12 in the repos? [08:30] DaSkreech, no but its on ~/riddell for testing [08:31] bah gotta fix some depends [08:31] ~/riddel? [08:31] http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ === profoX` [i=d00f@d54C0FBA7.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:32] of course :) === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:53] Riddell !! [08:54] Riddell nice litlle tv pic about linux :) and ubuntu in http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell [08:54] got any more? [08:54] I like downloading videos about linux and nice opensource stuff [09:02] TV pic? === linuxmonkey says who wants to go get a kubuntu tattoo? [09:03] linuxmonkey does!!! [09:03] :) [09:04] I would, if I could get a good 3d effect [09:04] :) [09:04] i got Tux on my right arm === claydoh has none at all, can never decide what to get that will be good/relevent/cool in say 40 years [09:05] get tux he's gonna be around for a bit [09:05] Food? [09:06] ya, but it won't be "rebellious" it will be common and over used :) [09:06] I think Food will probably be relevant [09:06] as long as it's not a pill by then :() [09:06] lmao [09:07] DaSkreech: in your case its gonna be via a tube [09:07] although an obscenity in binary would be neat [09:07] Why don't people ever encode messages ofgood will? [09:09] lol [09:09] lol [09:09] kubuntu in binary [09:09] dunno, tho an obcenity isn't necessarily bad will, just a dirty word [09:10] "Bill Gates to retire in 2008 but realy leave in 2010 becouse MS is always late kthxbye" in binary [09:10] or Unicode Hex :0 [09:10] Unicode UTF-8 Hex [09:11] bill gates retire...ya right [09:12] its like that commercial hands in my pockets === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.32.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:16] imbrandon: pong [09:17] imbrandon: export LANG=C [09:17] Ridell whats up, he's compiling the new amarok_1.4.1-beta1 [09:17] kk yea , i got amarok built and libvis 0.4 too [09:18] rebuilding after fixing something now [09:18] then i'll upload [09:18] me and linuxmonkey and nixternal been trying ti out , its VERY nice [09:19] alot of UI inprovements over 1.4.0 [09:22] imbrandon: you about done compiling the fixed version [09:22] yea its uploading now [09:22] lol kk [09:22] slow upload ...lol === DaSkreech is kopete 0.12'd out [09:25] Hey It logged into AIM :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.32.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@d54C1EB55.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] Riddell, ping ..... uploaded ready for url ? [09:54] gah n/m just found something [09:54] *rebuilds* [09:56] *laughs* [09:56] I don't know if I can build Beats of Rage for Linux :( [09:57] i realy need to figure out how to get ccache and distcc working with debuild [09:58] lol [09:58] <\sh> is anyone going to the TB meeting? [09:58] <\sh> if so, please excuse my not attending the second time, but this umts connection is too unstable# === \sh is now known as sh_away [10:11] Anyone have any ideas on what would be emptying /etc/resolv.conf every 20 minutes? [10:12] dhclient possibly, depending on the lease period [10:12] dhclient? [10:13] Why? === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] dhcp server distributes nameservers [10:28] or doesnt in your case === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX_ [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX_ [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:14] Riddell, ping ( all done and tested this time lol ) [11:17] lol [11:18] anyone awake thats running kde 3.5.3 and wanna try the new amarok beta ? [11:18] no, but I'm running Windows. [11:19] lol [11:19] lol === claydoh perk... [11:20] do we dare ask why he's running windows [11:20] no [11:20] i wouldent linuxmonkey [11:20] maybe hes at werk [11:20] it must be hell for him [11:20] it is for me [11:20] he is testing kde4... [11:20] heh [11:21] lmao good one toma [11:21] windows vista , built on qt4 ;) [11:21] that would be too funny === claydoh settles for kde3.5.3, wishes he could use it at work [11:22] i put in a request for linux at work and got denied in less than 2 seconds [11:22] well we only have a POS system with 3 registers and 2 cheeep dell workstations, one is the POS server [11:22] take POS in any way you wish === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:23] its a POS POS [11:23] lmao [11:23] *but* we are using OOo, and FF is installed [11:23] the web interface simply does not work with FF ot Konq [11:24] tho if I downgraded java to 1.4, i think the inventory system would work [11:25] heh [11:25] damn vendor lock in [11:25] amarok isn't any harder to compile than usuaal? [11:25] linuxmonkey: he's using an airport terminal === claydoh hasn't gotten around to it yet [11:26] nah well you have to use libvisual0.4 now instead of 0.2 but other than that no [11:26] hack it and run a kubuntu live cd [11:26] lol [11:26] I'd be shot on sight :) [11:27] linuxmonkey: on a kiosk with no optical drive? roit... [11:27] that's some hacking [11:27] lol [11:27] lol yup [11:27] a kiosk w/ no external anything but a screen and some punch keys [11:27] maybe a keyboard if your lucky [11:28] security walks up and ask what are you doing....hrmmmm securing this terminal === nixternal used to work at O'hare..those systems sook === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX_ [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=user@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:00] Riddell: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <-- amarok 1.4.1-beta1 and the required libvisual0.4 and libvisual0.4-dev ( I packaged from upstream but not in debian yet ) also setup as a repo if you want to just add my pubkey ( http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html ) [12:00] ^^ i'm off to take a nap, PM me if you need something else