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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 12:30 |
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| LarstiQ | heya mpt | 12:33 |
| mpt | It's a bright and chilly morning here in Dunedin | 12:37 |
| LarstiQ | I wish it was chilly here in Den Haag | 12:37 |
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| abentley-gaim | Is there any lag between uploading an SSH key and being able to push using bzr? | 01:34 |
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| === ..[topic/#launchpad:stub] : https://launchpad.net/ | developer meeting: Thu 22 Jun, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
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| stub | ??signal | 02:39 |
| abentley-gaim | Someone set us up the bomb. | 02:41 |
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| stub | Launchpad will be going down in 15 mins for its regular code update | 06:43 |
| stub | Launchpad will be going down in 15 mins for its regular code update. Downtime should be around 15 mins. | 06:44 |
| jamesh | stub: did the sprint meeitng export fix I merged last night make it into this rollout? | 07:45 |
| stub | jamesh: Yes. My telepathy is back online temporarily. | 07:45 |
| jamesh | thanks | 07:46 |
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| ajmitch | evening mpt_ :) | 08:01 |
| SteveA | morning | 08:19 |
| SteveA | mpt_: ping | 08:19 |
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| sivang | morning | 09:02 |
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| stub | What is the magic to generate a class on the fly, assembled from a list of subclasses? | 09:13 |
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| spiv | stub: type('name', bases, attrs_dict) | 09:14 |
| stub | Ta | 09:14 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:52 |
| carlos | SteveA, jordi: Occitan and Amharic mailing lists are created | 09:58 |
| SteveA | good | 09:59 |
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| SteveA | jamesh: ping | 10:10 |
| jamesh | SteveA: pong | 10:11 |
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| jamesh | lifeless: btw, the tickcount extension is ready to be packaged: sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad/tickcount/devel/ | 11:11 |
| jamesh | lifeless: you can either add the debian rules directly to the branch or run "make dist" to get a tarball base. | 11:12 |
| lifeless | ok, thanks | 11:12 |
| lifeless | wont be this week - focused on the sprint - but will be shortly after | 11:12 |
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| bradb | lifeless: Is the answer to this question correct? | 12:46 |
| bradb | https://launchpad.canonical.com/LaunchpadHackingFAQ#head-451fd4372e4a0e7e1305a403e98dc3b173140f5f | 12:46 |
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| bradb | lifeless: BjornT says it should be "Yes." | 12:46 |
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| spiv | bradb: it should be yes. | 12:48 |
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| bradb | spiv: Thanks. We updated the wording of the question (e.g. lifeless thinks it's confusing that "standalone" was referred to as a "story", etc.) and corrected the answer | 12:53 |
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| carlos | spiv: do we have a way to use librarian with sampledata? | 01:00 |
| Znarl | stub : Ping? | 01:01 |
| Znarl | stub : Launchpad logs have reached 1.8gigs and are slowing down chinstrap. | 01:02 |
| spiv | carlos: Yes, so long as the test that wants the sampledata first uploads it... | 01:10 |
| carlos | spiv: hmm that's a 'no' for me ;-) | 01:10 |
| spiv | carlos: So, no pre-canned sampledata, but the librarian is otherwise fully functional, so you can upload and then download from it in tests :) | 01:11 |
| carlos | that's not sampledata for me ;-) | 01:11 |
| carlos | at least it's not 'real' sampledata | 01:11 |
| carlos | spiv: would be possible to add that feature in the future? | 01:11 |
| spiv | Well, you could make a LibrarianTestSetup subclass that does this. | 01:12 |
| carlos | well, I was thinking more a way to do 'make schema' | 01:12 |
| spiv | The problem is that the librarian stores stuff outside of the database. | 01:12 |
| carlos | and be able to use launchpad with some librarian files imported | 01:12 |
| spiv | And, well, where would it put its files? | 01:13 |
| carlos | spiv: sure, I'm thinking on someway to generate a tarball where we could store a default librarian tree | 01:13 |
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| carlos | and that with something like: 'make librarian' untars it and we get a tarball that matches our db sampledata | 01:14 |
| carlos | sorry, /tarball/librarian tree/ | 01:14 |
| spiv | To answer my own question: I guess it could use config.librarian.server.root. | 01:15 |
| spiv | (I was mistakenly thinking the librarian test setup used a temporary directory) | 01:15 |
| carlos | spiv: right | 01:15 |
| spiv | There'd be no reason to use a tarball, there's nothing wrong with plain files. | 01:16 |
| stub | Znarl: ok | 01:16 |
| spiv | I'm not really sure that this offers any advantages over my suggestion to do it in your test or test setup, though. | 01:16 |
| carlos | spiv: well, that tree is not going to be updated because the librarian tree is used from /var/tmp/fatsam.test | 01:17 |
| spiv | Which requires less infrastructure and would be less error prone. | 01:17 |
| spiv | So you're worried about optimising it? | 01:18 |
| spiv | We have much bigger test suite performance issues to worry about :) | 01:18 |
| spiv | The starting and stopping the librarian process every pagetest, for instance. stub is working on avoiding that cost. | 01:18 |
| carlos | spiv: the answer to the question about why would we want this: https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/31725 | 01:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 31725 in rosetta "Sampledata should include a translation queue entry" [Medium,Unconfirmed] | 01:19 |
| spiv | Ah, so this is for playing with the webapp locally? | 01:20 |
| carlos | right | 01:20 |
| carlos | for pagetests, I agree 100% with you that we should do the uploads | 01:20 |
| spiv | Sorry, I thought you were talking about tests (which is why I kept talking about them) :) | 01:20 |
| spiv | Well, I don't 100% agree that we should do the way I suggest for tests, more like 80% or 90% ;) | 01:21 |
| carlos | spiv: well, for me is the best way to test exactly what you want without breaking many tests when the sampledata changes ;-) | 01:22 |
| spiv | But right, I'd be happy for there to be a 'librarian_data' or similar make target that is invoked as part of 'make schema'. | 01:22 |
| carlos | spiv: storing it as a subtree in our bzr tree or as a tarball? | 01:23 |
| spiv | As a plain tree. | 01:23 |
| spiv | A tarball doesn't offer any benefits I can see, and just makes it harder to update the sampledata. | 01:23 |
| carlos | spiv: ok | 01:24 |
| spiv | And harder to inspect the sampledata. | 01:24 |
| carlos | yeah, that's right | 01:24 |
| spiv | It should live in database/sampledata/librarian, I think. | 01:25 |
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| carlos | yeah, makes sense | 01:26 |
| spiv | carlos: the problem is I rarely actually run the webapp locally, but I run tests a lot :) | 01:28 |
| carlos | it's useful for new pages or UI changes | 01:28 |
| carlos | for bug fixes, it's useless | 01:28 |
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| carlos | later | 02:10 |
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| flacoste | I got weird failures after submitting my branch for merging to PQM | 05:53 |
| flacoste | anybody can help? | 05:53 |
| spiv | flacoste: pastebin it? | 05:53 |
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| flacoste | spiv: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileCLSqVH.html | 05:58 |
| flacoste | looked to me likes these should have passed | 05:59 |
| spiv | flacoste: they do, yeah. | 06:05 |
| flacoste | what should I do in case like these? | 06:05 |
| spiv | flacoste: And if I compare those strings with doctest directly, it passes. | 06:06 |
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| spiv | There's no missing voodoo I know of. | 06:07 |
| spiv | Those are just plain weird errors. | 06:07 |
| spiv | Where's the branch? | 06:07 |
| flacoste | sftp://chinstrap/home/warthogs/archives/flacoste/launchpad/ticket-tracker-bug40084/ | 06:08 |
| spiv | Well, one of them is a real error... | 06:08 |
| spiv | (the <div class="error message">+notificationtest3 error</div> | 06:08 |
| spiv | one) | 06:08 |
| flacoste | indeed, and that's caused because LaunchpadView now doesn't render on redirect | 06:09 |
| flacoste | so, I should change the test there for sure | 06:10 |
| flacoste | and maybe the other ones have the same problem | 06:10 |
| flacoste | i.e. empty body makes doesn't match the ... | 06:11 |
| spiv | Well, the other ones all have Content-Length: 0, but that shouldn't cause them all to fail. | 06:11 |
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| BjornT | flacoste: that's correct, ... doesn't match <BLANKLINE>. so if you made the page have an empty body, you have to remove the last ... | 06:14 |
| flacoste | will do, thanks for the help! | 06:14 |
| spiv | BjornT: weird that I don't see that when using doctest directly. | 06:14 |
| BjornT | spiv: it depends on if you use NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE or not. if you don't specify that flag, they will match. | 06:15 |
| BjornT | NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE is turned on in our pagetests | 06:15 |
| spiv | Ah. | 06:15 |
| BjornT | https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/267 | 06:16 |
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| spiv | BjornT: Hmm, not even then, actually. | 06:17 |
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| spiv | BjornT: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileiLR7hA.html says they match, even with ELLIPSIS + NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE | 06:18 |
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| BjornT | spiv: right. i said that if you don't specify it, they will match. i.e. specify only ELLIPSIS | 06:20 |
| BjornT | at least i meant to say it. | 06:20 |
| spiv | BjornT: They match without it too. | 06:20 |
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| spiv | BjornT: If you could tweak that paste to reproduce the failure, I'd like to see it :) | 06:22 |
| spiv | But for now, it's bedtime... | 06:22 |
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| BjornT | spiv: hmm. either something wrong with that test you pasted, or it got fixed in upstream python... | 06:24 |
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| spiv | BjornT: I tried with both doctest.py files in the launchpad+zope tree, too :) | 06:29 |
| spiv | BjornT: So I presume it's something wrong with my attempt to replicate the conditions of flacoste's failure, but I don't know what. | 06:29 |
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| djk_ | how do you delete a launchpad-account? | 09:46 |
| mongolito404 | Hoi. I'm in charge of writing a PHP software that will probably use Rosetta for translation. I'm totally new to Rosetta and to i18n and a bit lost. Where should I look for Rosetta usable i18n technology in PHP ? | 09:47 |
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| flacoste | i'm entangled in a bazaar merge puzzle | 10:17 |
| kiko | flacoste, what's up? | 10:18 |
| kiko | hey bradb | 10:18 |
| flacoste | i've got a new branch which I started from rocketfuel from yesterday | 10:18 |
| bradb | hey kiko | 10:18 |
| kiko | okay so far | 10:18 |
| kiko | bradb, got my email? | 10:18 |
| flacoste | it's called ticket-makebug-fixes | 10:19 |
| bradb | kiko: i did indeed | 10:19 |
| kiko | bradb, looked okay to you? | 10:19 |
| flacoste | it's for working on bug #3849 and bug #50007 | 10:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3849 in launchpad-support-tracker "No navigation to bug report created from a support request" [Medium,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3849 | 10:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 50007 in launchpad-support-tracker "When filing a bug related to the support tracker, the summary and description should be editable" [Medium,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/50007 | 10:19 |
| kiko | flacoste, cool | 10:19 |
| flacoste | since it build on the changes in ticket-tracker-bug-40084 which wasn't merged yet in rocketfuel | 10:20 |
| flacoste | i merged that branch in ticket-makebug-fixes | 10:20 |
| kiko | okay so far | 10:20 |
| bradb | kiko: Yup. Those have basically been the hot topics so far. | 10:20 |
| flacoste | now, I'm done with the fixes and ticket-tracker-bug-40084 was merged this afternoon in rocketfuel | 10:21 |
| kiko | okay great | 10:21 |
| === bradb feels encouraged that what we've discussed so far in Paris is really stuff I think we'll have done by the next sprint. | ||
| kiko | bradb, thats very cool | 10:22 |
| flacoste | I synced up rocketfuel but now when I do a bzr diff -r ancestor:../rocketfueld/launchpad I see that it would want to apply changes that were merged from ticket-tracker-40084 to rocketfuel | 10:22 |
| bradb | e.g. xmlrpc, release bug management, bug-reporting-tool, drinking-from-the-firehouse (dealing with large volumes of bug reports), etc. | 10:22 |
| kiko | flacoste, and indeed it would | 10:22 |
| kiko | because once you merged those revisions into your tree | 10:23 |
| kiko | they are "yours" | 10:23 |
| flacoste | i though that bazaar was able to see that the same set of changes was merged in both tree! | 10:23 |
| flacoste | guess, i've credited bazaar with too much cleverness | 10:24 |
| kiko | flacoste, it's not really possible to calculate that delta | 10:24 |
| kiko | because, well, if you depend on the features in the branch | 10:24 |
| kiko | then how can you expect your merge to RF to work? | 10:24 |
| kiko | i.e. you require some method added in that branch | 10:24 |
| flacoste | because I won't merge until the other branch is also merged :-) | 10:25 |
| kiko | how would your branch merged against RF without the prerequisite branch know | 10:25 |
| kiko | oh | 10:25 |
| flacoste | ticket-makebug-fixes is really the continuation of ticket-tracker-bug-40084 | 10:26 |
| flacoste | i'll just save between this two and apply it to a brand new branch from rocketfuel, that will work | 10:27 |
| flacoste | s/save/save the diff/ | 10:27 |
| kiko | that would work indeed | 10:27 |
| matsubara | flacoste: did you try bzr diff -r branch:../rocketfuel/launchpad ? AIUI, ancestor compares you current branch against the last branch you have from ancestor. | 10:28 |
| flacoste | well, the doc says that ancestor: is used for the merge, so I thought I should use that one | 10:28 |
| flacoste | it's probable that bzr diff -r branch: would work | 10:28 |
| === flacoste is testing now | ||
| flacoste | well, it does work but also shows me all the new stuff in rocketfuel | 10:29 |
| flacoste | when I tried bzr merge ../rocketfuel/launchpad, I did get conflicts on the files related to ticket-tracker-bug-40084 | 10:30 |
| kiko | does anyone know if a rollout is scheduled for this week? | 10:44 |
| kiko | SteveA? | 10:44 |
| SteveA | kiko: there was a rollout this morning. | 10:45 |
| kiko | SteveA, oh, fabulous! | 10:45 |
| kiko | SteveA, do you know what revision level? | 10:45 |
| SteveA | look at the wiki page | 10:46 |
| SteveA | https://launchpad.canonical.com/LaunchpadProductionStatus | 10:46 |
| kiko | amazing! | 10:46 |
| kiko | fab | 10:48 |
| SteveA | f.a.b. | 10:48 |
| kiko | matsubara, interesting to see what timeouts we get tomorrow -- hopefully my work has helped us! | 10:48 |
| kiko | if everything worked out as well as I hope it did I now need to get the +translations page finally under control | 10:49 |
| kiko | anyway | 10:49 |
| kiko | outta here! | 10:49 |
| djk_ | how do you delete a launchpad-account? | 10:56 |
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