[03:12] <bddebian> Hello
[05:01] <mhz> arkan0x: arregla los cables poh!!
[06:22] <crimsun> evenin'
[06:22] <crimsun> err, mornin'
[06:39] <Amaranth> Man, I'm going to have so much fun with this bayesian library.
[06:39] <Amaranth> You can use it to write, say, a factoid bot that figures out what you want on it's own when you ask it a question.
[06:40] <crimsun> so is it going to spit out 42 for everything or just that one question?
[06:40] <Amaranth> Instead of "!ati" you could ask it "How do I make my ATI card work?" and it could figure out you wanted the ati factoid
[06:40] <Amaranth> hehe
[06:41] <HedgeMage> :)
[07:30] <HedgeMage> hi Burgundavia 
[07:30] <Burgundavia> hey HedgeMage
[07:31] <HedgeMage> what's up?
[07:34] <Burgundavia> not much
[07:35] <HedgeMage> Are you in Paris with the others?
[07:41] <Burgundavia> no, sadly not
[07:41] <Burgundavia> work conflicted
[07:44] <bimberi> Where is the current version of the EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy document?
[07:46] <Burgundavia> bimberi: doc team svn
[07:47] <HedgeMage> aww
[07:47] <bimberi> Burgundavia: thanks, any website though? help.u.c?
[07:48] <Burgundavia> bimberi: wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/GettingStarting I think
[07:48] <HedgeMage> bimberi: there was a copy on the edubuntu wiki at some point, but i've no idea how current it is
[07:49] <bimberi> HedgeMage: yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy
[07:50] <Burgundavia> bimberi: that is very very old
[07:50] <HedgeMage> bimberi: if you can't do SVN, I can pull a copy and email it to you.
[07:50] <bimberi> yes, i'm linking to it from another page and wanted to update the link
[07:50] <HedgeMage> bimberi: I have the doc tree anyway thanks to cookbook
[07:51] <HedgeMage> ok one sec, let my sync in case anything was added over the weekend.
[07:51] <Burgundavia> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/index.html
[07:51] <Burgundavia> there is the link
[07:51] <HedgeMage> aha
[07:51] <HedgeMage> Burgundavia has it for ya :)
[07:51] <Burgundavia> that is not permanent
[07:52] <bimberi> HedgeMage: thankyou! it's ok though, i'm at revision 3144 :)
[07:52] <HedgeMage> :)
[07:52] <bimberi> Burgundavia: aha, thanks, i'll link to that with qualifying text
[07:55] <Burgundavia> bimberi: what page are you linking from?
[07:57] <HedgeMage> hi jsgotangco 
[07:57] <jsgotangco> bonjour!
[07:57] <Burgundavia> hey jsgotangco
[07:58] <jsgotangco> good morning Burgundavia
[07:58] <Burgundavia> heh, good night for me
[07:58] <Burgundavia> any, that is good night
[07:58] <Burgundavia> might not be on very much
[08:04] <HedgeMage> :)
[08:07] <Amaranth> 7am in paris
[08:07] <Amaranth> either you didn't party last night or you're cruel to yourself
[08:08] <HedgeMage> lol
[08:12] <jsgotangco> 8am
[08:12] <jsgotangco> i still a bit jetlagged considering its now 2pm in my home
[08:13] <HedgeMage> hehe
[08:13] <jsgotangco> but at the moment, its just me, BenC and colin in the room hogging the bandwidth
[08:13] <HedgeMage> hehe
[08:14] <HedgeMage> I'm not a good roommate... I snore, I keep odd hours, and I hog the bandwidth :P
[08:14] <HedgeMage> so you folks are probably glad I'm not there :P
[08:15] <crimsun> what you mean, susan, is that you'd fit right in.
[08:19] <HedgeMage> LOL
[08:19] <HedgeMage> so we're all whackos? I'd never have guessed :P
[08:19] <crimsun> yeah, I should be asleep two hours ago
[08:20] <bimberi> :/  missed Burgundavia's question
[08:20] <HedgeMage> want to know what's really sick? I should be sleeping but I'm about to play monopoly online with a friend because we haven't in a while and it sounds fun
[08:20] <HedgeMage> any of you other non-sleeping people want to join us?
[08:21] <crimsun> I'd love to, but I think I'm going to kick myself for missing the alarm for an 8:30 presentation
[08:21] <HedgeMage> the client, atlantik, is available on the repos
[08:21] <HedgeMage> crimsun: ouch :(
[08:22] <crimsun> take a few hotels for me, though :)
[08:22] <HedgeMage> :)
[08:23] <HedgeMage> hmm, I suppose that means we have to play the Euro game board rather than the traditional one...
[08:28] <bimberi> We got a "Millenium Edition" recently.  $2million for passing go :)
[08:30] <bimberi> But went back to the old one, it's much better for my sons' maths ($28 rent, "give me $30 and i'll give you $2")
[09:39] <highvoltage> good morning
[09:53] <EmxBA> hi everyone
[09:53] <EmxBA> bluekuja: ping
[09:53] <EmxBA> highvoltage: ping
[09:54] <EmxBA> I really need to tell you something *important*
[09:54] <EmxBA> the site I am working on
[09:54] <EmxBA> "skolarci"
[09:54] <EmxBA> school-kid
[09:54] <EmxBA> is now available (english) on http://emx.abshost.net/skolarci/
[09:55] <EmxBA> HedgeMage: ping
[10:04] <EmxBA> hi jane_
[10:16] <xwind_> hello ...
[10:17] <xwind_> When installing xubuntu - ltsp server on i386 the screen blanks-out during chroot build. There appears to be some activity after that but the screen stays like that forcing me to reboot the computer without finishing the installation. Is this a bug? I tried edubuntu and the same behaviour is observed. I have dapper 6.06 LTS.
[10:20] <chupacabras> I installed edubuntu by accident, I was thinking I was installing ubuntu desktop, but I think I like it.
[10:20] <jsgotangco> lol
[10:20] <chupacabras> I guess is gonna give me the same functionality anyway.
[10:22] <chupacabras> I'm gonna give it a try, The app calle Tux Paint rocks, maybe I would never had used it before if it wasn't for this accidental instalation.
[10:26] <jsgotangco> supertux heh
[10:27] <rodarvus> jsgotangco, you wouldn't hug chupacabras if you knew the meaning of his name :)
[10:28] <jsgotangco> meh
[10:29] <jsgotangco> ewww i love my blood
[10:36] <chupacabras> So, are you all teachers?
[11:11] <pier> hi !
[11:12] <jsgotangco> hi!
[11:12] <LaserJock> hi jsgotangco 
[11:12] <LaserJock> long time, no see
[11:13] <jsgotangco> yes its been a while
[11:14] <highvoltage> where have you guys been!?
[11:14] <rodarvus> downstairs :)
[11:20] <xwind_> hello oliver, got my mail?
[11:32] <xwind_> got ur reply. thanks.
[11:32] <ogra> :)
[11:33] <jsgotangco> hmm
[11:33] <jsgotangco> are we having a meeting later?
[11:34] <LaserJock> rodarvus: yeah, are we going to meet today
[11:34] <ogra> jsgotangco, hmm ... 
[11:34] <LaserJock> rodarvus: my schedule is pretty light
[11:34] <rodarvus> great
[11:35] <ogra> that'd be 10pm today then
[11:35] <jsgotangco> heck why not make a live meeting heh
[11:35] <ogra> jsgotangco, beacuse we do that all day anyway ? 
[11:36] <jsgotangco> hahaha
[11:36] <jsgotangco> ogra: do you have plans going out?
[11:36] <ogra> well, there is that festival in paris ... 
[11:36] <ogra> not sure yet
[11:36] <rodarvus> :)
[11:37] <ogra> the ltsp stuff this morning has added a *lot* to my todo 
[11:37] <rodarvus> which kind of music is going on on the festival:
[11:37] <rodarvus> ?
[11:37] <jsgotangco> are we approving rodarvus?
[11:37] <ogra> jazz i heard
[11:37] <rodarvus> jazz is great stuff
[11:37] <ogra> jsgotangco, please make him an admin on all teams *if* we decide to approve him ;)
[11:37] <jsgotangco> fete de la musique
[11:37] <LaserJock> big if there ;-)
[11:37] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:38] <ogra> we should probably vote on it ;)
[11:38] <rodarvus> :)
[11:38] <jsgotangco> rodarvus: i heard beer is a good motivator
[11:38] <LaserJock> sure, I need to grilling practice
[11:38] <ogra> so he has a chance to bribe ;)
[11:38] <LaserJock> more eiffiel towers?
[11:38] <ogra> lol
[11:39] <jsgotangco> well i should see paris at night
[11:39] <rodarvus> haha
[11:39] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: its probably the same as in the day, but a bit darker
[11:39] <jsgotangco> yeah like it gets dark here at 10PM
[11:39] <ogra> LaserJock, are you even sure you can take them home with you ? homeland security might take them as a weapon with that tip :)
[11:40] <LaserJock> ogra: good point ;-)
[11:40] <LaserJock> I'll have to sneak them in my luggage
[11:41] <LaserJock> I'll just say that I got them in the US (made in China) ;-)
[11:41] <ogra> rodarvus, we can only accept you in the edubuntu-members team in a EC meeting 
[11:42] <ogra> but since we even have RL quorum we can make a quick one here later ;)
[11:42] <jsgotangco> beer *cough*
[11:42] <ogra> jsgotangco, no, i mean he needs to fulfill the prerequisites like everybody else ...
[11:42] <LaserJock> water *cough*
[11:43] <rodarvus> 'k, I'll get beer + water + wine at the supermarket later today :)
[11:43] <ogra> i.e. wikipage review ... check for signed CoC tell us his vision 
[11:43] <rodarvus> ogra, sure, no problem
[11:43] <jsgotangco> fair enough but i give him + points on beer
[11:43] <ogra> hehe
[11:43] <ogra> well, me too 
[11:43] <ogra> seems we'll get *really* drunk tonight
[11:43] <ogra> all these teams
[11:43] <rodarvus> actually, I'd really want follow the correct procedure to join all groups
[11:43] <LaserJock> I don't except beer as bribes, I can't get the stuff down
[11:44] <LaserJock> a Pepsi maybe
[11:44] <rodarvus> you don't drink beer?
[11:44] <ogra> rodarvus, only edubuntu-members is restricted
[11:44] <rodarvus> ogra, oh, ok
[11:44] <jsgotangco> there's IV beer if you want
[11:44] <rodarvus> there's non-alcoholic beer if you don't mind its taste ;)
[11:44] <rodarvus> wine also is quite ok
[11:45] <rodarvus> I'd like to go to the supermarket (maybe after lunch) and get a few bottles
[11:45] <rodarvus> not the expensive ones doko bought, but I'm looking for quality wine still
[11:46] <jsgotangco> rodarvus: i'll go with you
[11:46] <jsgotangco> i want to see the countryside if it doesn't rain
[11:46] <rodarvus> great
[11:46] <rodarvus> oh, yeah :/
[11:46] <rodarvus> it look like its going to rain today
[11:46] <rodarvus> well, we'll see
[11:47] <jsgotangco> how does it feel paying 20 for an adapter
[11:47] <rodarvus> I've just sent an email to my wife
[11:47] <jsgotangco> haha
[11:47] <rodarvus> and didn't mentioned the adapter :D
[11:47] <LaserJock> lol
[11:47] <LaserJock> I told my wife how smart I was to go to Wal-Mart before I left ;-)
[11:47] <rodarvus> Laser_away, you're right :)
[11:47] <jsgotangco> i am with my wife on gtalk now and told her i am driniking tap water and she said i should buy bottled lol
[11:48] <rodarvus> the thing is, I wasn't able to find an adapter before I left Brazil
[11:48] <rodarvus> thats the problem with (un)developing countries
[11:48] <jsgotangco> so i'll probably buy that money for bottled water for beer instaed hahaha
[11:48] <jsgotangco> rodarvus: same here i was told a standard 2 prong Europlug should work
[11:48] <rodarvus> jsgotangco, good idea ;)
[11:48] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: well, it does if you have the right one
[11:49] <jsgotangco> yeah
[11:49] <jsgotangco> now i know why some are a bit higher than usual
[11:49] <rodarvus> jsgotangco, yeah, actually, the "universal" power adapter has no french output (just a thin european plug, which is also ok)
[11:50] <rodarvus> s/power adapter/power adapter I bought/
[11:50] <jsgotangco> as long as its higher than usual
[11:50] <rodarvus> yup, that oo
[11:50] <rodarvus> too even
[11:55] <xwind_> ogra: xubuntu ltsp install a success.
[11:55] <xwind_> thanks for the hint.
[12:31] <xwind_> after a "successful" xubuntu install, i am getting this error on my thinclient: "mount: 172.29.2.200:/opt/ltsp/i386 failed, reason given by server: Permission Denied". Hints please.
[12:42] <highvoltage> xwind_: what's in /etc/exports?
[12:42] <highvoltage> xwind_: is nfs-kernel-server running?
[12:42] <xwind_> i see several nfs when doing ps -ef|grep nfsd
[12:43] <xwind_> i have this in my /etc/exports: /opt/ltsp       *(ro,no_root_squash,async)
[12:48] <highvoltage> hmm... that seems fine. can you hang around a while? i could ask ogra in a few minutes, he's just busy drafting a sspec atm.
[12:49] <xwind_> ok. one thing though. during my xubuntu ltsp install, the screen blanked out during the chroot build.
[12:50] <xwind_> then, after ogra confirmed that it was a xorg bug, i just let the install proceed blindly and hit the enter key when the machine is inactive.
[12:51] <xwind_> I pressed the Enter key twice perhaps accepting a default option without really knowing the question. :)
[12:51] <xwind_> then the install was finished as indicated by the cd tray coming out. i booted and there it was the xubuntu desktop.
[12:54] <highvoltage> you might be able to resuem the ltsp setup section by doing a ltsp-build-client
[12:54] <highvoltage> but i think it would be best ifyou hang around for ogra
[12:55] <xwind_> i'll wait.
[01:19] <xwind_> highvoltage: no luck. ogra just left.
[01:43] <chido> Hi
[05:18] <bddebian> Hello
[05:40] <pygi> hello people
[05:41] <LaserJock> hi pygi 
[05:41] <pygi> hey hey LaserJock, what's up? :)
[05:41] <LaserJock> specing
[05:41] <pygi> ah :)
[05:42] <pygi> nice ^^
[06:21] <cberlo> Hi folks.  I just installed Edubuntu from the live CD and found out that LTSP wasn't a default part of that install.  Are there complete instructions for this method of installation to get the "full" LTSP server install up and running?
[06:22] <LaserJock> use the alternate cd
[06:23] <LaserJock> the livecd doesn't have enough space to do the ltsp server part, I believe
[06:24] <cberlo> LaserJock: At this point, I already have everything installed to my hard drive.  I've installed the ltsp-server-standalone and followed the instructions from ThinClientHowto to complete the install.  I know I did it the hard way, but is there documentation I missed somewhere?
[06:25] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm not sure if it says something on the edubuntu website or not, it might
[06:25] <LaserJock> if you get a CD from shipit it will be the alternate cd, it might be called something else
[06:26] <cberlo> Okay.  I've got those on order, but I want to get testing this stuff right away -- we have an opening for Open Source and I want to take advantage ASAP.  :)
[06:26] <cberlo> Basically, once I get all the necessary stuff installed, I run "sudo ltsp-client-build", right?
[06:27] <cberlo> er... ltsp-build-client
[06:31] <cberlo> Okay, well where can I make a suggestion on clarifying the documentation?  (i.e. make sure you use xyz CD to install, not the live CD; if you use the live CD, you'll need to follow abc instructions)
[07:36] <Amaranth> are we doing the edubuntu meeting?
[07:37] <pygi> hey HedgeMage 
[07:37] <HedgeMage> Amaranth: in about 1.5 hours
[07:37] <HedgeMage> hi pygi 
[07:37] <pygi> Amaranth, hey hey
[07:37] <HedgeMage> what's up?
[07:37] <pygi> working on fixing bugs, and just registered two projects of mine on LP
[07:37] <pygi> so you could file bugs and test them :P
[07:39] <pygi> Thinking of student reviews also...
[07:39] <Amaranth> HedgeMage: 2.5
[07:40] <HedgeMage> darn time zones... :)
[07:40] <HedgeMage> pygi: which projects?
[07:40] <pygi> HedgeMage, Diva and Bonfire
[07:41] <HedgeMage> bonfire == cd burning IIRC, what's Diva?
[07:41] <pygi> HedgeMage, www.diva-project.org
[07:41] <Amaranth> HedgeMage: i got the ical from the fridge
[07:41] <Amaranth> evolution converts to local time for me
[07:41] <Amaranth> back in a bit, need to move the modem/router
[07:41] <HedgeMage> pygi: ahh fun
[07:42] <pygi> HedgeMage, :)
[07:43] <pygi> HedgeMage, test Bonfire? :)
[07:44] <HedgeMage> pygi: remind me when this crazy week is over.
[07:44] <pygi> HedgeMage, hehe, oki :)
[07:45] <juliux> greetings
[07:46] <pygi> best regards jinty 
[07:46] <pygi> juliux, 
[07:46] <pygi> *
[07:46] <HedgeMage> hi juliux 
[07:47] <juliux> has somebody allready a edubuntu dapper cd?
[07:52] <HedgeMage> I have ones I burned... my pressed ones haven't arrived yet
[07:52] <juliux> ok
[08:27] <HedgeMage> Ugh, my laptop came back from the hospital needing 92 package upgrades
[08:27] <HedgeMage> sheesh
[08:30] <Burgwork> dapper or breezy?
[08:34] <cbx33> hey all
[08:39] <cbx33> meeting tonight right?
[08:40] <HedgeMage> depends on if it's day or night where you are. :P  Yes, in about 1.5 hours
[08:46] <cbx33> true
[08:46] <cbx33> how are you HedgeMage 
[08:49] <HedgeMage> cbx33: not bad, you?
[08:49] <cbx33> yeh I'm good
[08:52] <HedgeMage> brb grabbing a power cord for the lappy
[08:53] <popey> hello cbx33 
[08:54] <cbx33> hey popey 
[08:54] <cbx33> howz it going
[08:54] <popey> yeah not bad
[08:54] <popey> raving to people about sbackup
[08:54] <cbx33> I've been writing python apps :D
[08:54] <cbx33> sbackup??
[08:54] <popey> so i see
[08:54] <popey> a python frontend which controlls regular backups
[08:54] <cbx33> hehe going quite well
[08:54] <popey> apt-get it, it's lovely
[08:54] <cbx33> oooh nice
[08:54] <cbx33> well if you handle isos frequently
[08:54] <popey> backup to local dir or remote location, usb hdd, whatever, very nicely done
[08:55] <popey> yeah, looks neat, i like it
[08:55] <cbx33> give gisomount a try and lemme know if it works good
[08:55] <cbx33> will be looking for beta testers soon
[08:55] <popey> count me in
[08:55] <cbx33> it'll hopefully be in universe sometime next week
[08:55] <popey> excellent, well done
[08:55] <cbx33> and I'm also doing one to keep the daily cd builds up to date
[08:56] <cbx33> ogra wrote a script that goes and coolects them
[08:56] <cbx33> so I made afront end
[08:57] <cbx33> still in heavy beta at the mo
[08:58] <cbx33> gmail fs?
[08:59] <cbx33> popey, howz the job going?
[08:59] <popey> not bad, finish soon, going to take some time off :)
[08:59] <popey> gmailfs allows you to access your email space on gmail as if it was a filesystem
[09:00] <popey> you could backup to a location then script the upload to gmailfs?
[09:00] <lucasvo> popey: and encrypt it :)
[09:00] <popey> ah, good point
[09:00] <Yagisan> nope. gmailfs refused to work at all
[09:00] <lucasvo> google is bigbrother
[09:01] <popey> oh, ok
[09:01] <popey> in this country google is the least of my worries
[09:01] <cbx33> popey, hehehe
[09:01] <popey> we have a big brother state, but that's for another channel I'm sure
[09:01] <Yagisan> 2gb x 300 invites == lots of space
[09:02] <Yagisan> just think of all the crap^W stuff you could upload
[09:03] <cbx33> heheh
[09:03] <cbx33> how does gmailfs work?
[09:03] <cbx33> is it sent as http traffic?
[09:04] <popey> or https i guess
[09:04] <popey> you can use https with gmail
[09:04] <HedgeMage> cbx33: it's a protocol designed to give people like me the creeps :P
[09:05] <Yagisan> cbx33: it's sent as emails, with a 2mb chunk size
[09:05] <cbx33> :S
[09:05] <cbx33> I thinking of the school here
[09:05] <cbx33> everything apart from 80 443 and 25 is blocked
[09:05] <cbx33> sorry
[09:05] <cbx33> not 25
[09:05] <cbx33> 21
[09:06] <cbx33> but it'srestricted to anon download only for 21
[09:09] <cbx33> hehe
[09:09] <cbx33> esxcept it's against the TOS
[09:11] <Yagisan> cbx33: really ?
[09:11] <cbx33> yup
[09:12] <DanielC> What is TOS?
[09:12] <Yagisan> it really says no vpn ?
[09:12] <cbx33> it's connecting the citys network to an open network
[09:12] <cbx33> they don't allow that
[09:12] <Yagisan> DanielC: Terms Of Service
[09:12] <DanielC> thanks
[09:12] <cbx33> sorry DanielC 
[09:12] <Yagisan> cbx33: ah, plain hhtp violates that then
[09:12] <Yagisan> s/hhtp/http
[09:13] <Yagisan> bub kicking me while I type
[09:13] <DanielC> Phone lines violate that :)
[09:13] <cbx33> no
[09:13] <cbx33> DanielC, yes
[09:13] <cbx33> if we have a laptop connected to the phoneline and to the network at the same time we are breaking the ToS
[09:13] <cbx33> even if it's not dialed out
[09:13] <DanielC> heh
[09:13] <cbx33> Yagisan, http traffic is filtered through them
[09:14] <cbx33> so they class that as safe
[09:14] <Yagisan> cbx33: not 443 (ssl)
[09:14] <DanielC> email?
[09:14] <cbx33> true
[09:14] <cbx33> DanielC, denied
[09:14] <Yagisan> cbx33: they can't filter it
[09:14] <cbx33> Yagisan, I know
[09:14] <Yagisan> so you *are* wide open
[09:14] <Yagisan> stunnel
[09:14] <cbx33> Yagisan, true
[09:14] <Yagisan> it looks like normal ssl traffic
[09:14] <cbx33> stunnel eh?
[09:14] <Yagisan> heh heh heh
[09:14] <cbx33> tuneel one port to antoher of 443?
[09:15] <cbx33> is that like openvpn?
[09:16] <Yagisan> cbx33: it wraps things in ssl
[09:16] <Yagisan> you'll still need an endpoint outside to relay for you
[09:16] <cbx33> yes
[09:16] <cbx33> Yagisan, you happen to have one?
[09:16] <cbx33> :p
[09:17] <cbx33> Yagisan, yeh but in trusted hands it's ok
[09:17] <cbx33> and plus it can't go back into the network again
[09:17] <Yagisan> cbx33: sure, if you don't mind 64kbit (what I'm shaped too)
[09:17] <cbx33> Yagisan, that'd be fine for what I need
[09:18] <cbx33> so....if for example I wanted to ssh to somewhere
[09:18] <cbx33> I would use stunnel 
[09:19] <Yagisan> cbx33: what you want is your app port x -> wrapper port y -> Internet -> a remote box -> final destination
[09:20] <cbx33> did you get my pm?
[09:21] <Yagisan> cbx33: tony blair ? no he's still in the UK
[10:02] <HedgeMage> anyone else going to the meeting or is it just me?
[10:31] <HedgeMage> no clue, mine aren't here yet either
[11:53] <HedgeMage> hiya pygi 
[11:54] <pygi> heya HedgeMage 
[11:59] <pygi> HedgeMage, it's not good to run so many systems on so little ram :P
[12:00] <HedgeMage> lol
[12:02] <pygi> HedgeMage, just you laugh :P