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| lnxkde | :) | 01:00 |
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| lnxkde | back from work | 01:00 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 03:12 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 03:57 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: thanks | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: it doesnt require libvisual0.4-dev to install - it's a b-d | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | FYI | 04:08 |
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| Hobbsee | okay, amarok 1.4.1 works now, good :) | 04:13 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: ping | 04:48 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: pung | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: you're not imbrandon :P | 04:49 |
| DaSkreech | Deja vu! | 04:49 |
| linuxmonkey | Hobbsee: he's still sleeping | 04:52 |
| linuxmonkey | anything I can help ya with, | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | linuxmonkey: not really, i think i found what i was looking for | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | you can test amarok 1.4.1 beta 1, if you like | 04:52 |
| linuxmonkey | allready am | 04:53 |
| linuxmonkey | lol | 04:53 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | oh for goodness sake, i really am an idiot today. | 04:53 |
| linuxmonkey | was the first one testing it | 04:53 |
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| Hobbsee | nice :) | 04:54 |
| === DaSkreech thought you got that prize yesterday | ||
| linuxmonkey | yeah and he was supposed to show me how to package stuff but he never woke up and im going to bed soon | 04:54 |
| linuxmonkey | oh well another day :) atleast i got my dapper and edgy chroots | 04:55 |
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| === DaSkreech got Beats Of Rage Working!! | ||
| DaSkreech | It's slower than a Vista release though :( | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | linuxmonkey: see PM from bot. | 04:57 |
| linuxmonkey | yeah i read that | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | that's the guide on how to package | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | oh darn! now i'll need a chroot again. | 04:57 |
| linuxmonkey | lol | 04:57 |
| Hobbsee | and my chroots are screwed, for some reason. | 04:58 |
| freeflying|away | moin all | 04:58 |
| linuxmonkey | that stinks | 04:58 |
| linuxmonkey | moin moin 2 you 2 | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | linuxmonkey: oh well, i can still build the source...i just wont know if it works in a pbuilder... | 04:59 |
| linuxmonkey | lol yeah i'm gonna have to wait till tommorow to attack this, im in desperate need of sleep | 05:00 |
| linuxmonkey | say its midnight here and I work at 6am | 05:00 |
| === linuxmonkey makes like imbrandon_ and goes to sleep | ||
| DaSkreech | Hmm well kopete doens't work anymore | 05:07 |
| === nixternal pets his kopete | ||
| DaSkreech | man I hate kopete | 05:10 |
| nixternal | i do to | 05:10 |
| nixternal | i hate gaim | 05:10 |
| nixternal | sim i haven't tried yet though | 05:10 |
| DaSkreech | Whats sim? | 05:10 |
| nixternal | a new one on kde-apps | 05:10 |
| nixternal | high score too | 05:10 |
| DaSkreech | Hmmm | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...that's weird. | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | these visualisations look odd... | 05:11 |
| === DaSkreech looks. | ||
| DaSkreech | They are even over here | 05:12 |
| nixternal | amaroK visualizations? | 05:12 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: ah, good, with libvisual0.4? | 05:12 |
| DaSkreech | ahhhhm | 05:13 |
| DaSkreech | No 0.2 | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: hmmm okay. define your "odd"? | 05:15 |
| DaSkreech | Well I'm not sure what's your odd? | 05:15 |
| nixternal | http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/visualizations.png | 05:16 |
| nixternal | mine look good | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | the colours look weird - they seem to flash and constantly change colours as the music plays | 05:17 |
| nixternal | the opengl one moves kind of fast....but it is clean as are the other ones | 05:17 |
| DaSkreech | Which one are you looking at first of all? | 05:17 |
| nixternal | version? | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: which version is that? | 05:17 |
| nixternal | same as yours | 05:17 |
| === DaSkreech sits over there ---> | ||
| nixternal | the ones imbrandon_ did | 05:18 |
| nixternal | lol | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: he didnt do the 0.4 plugins | 05:18 |
| nixternal | i got the same package though from his server | 05:18 |
| === Hobbsee didnt see it. | ||
| nixternal | i got it ;) | 05:19 |
| nixternal | it was part of the package deal earlier | 05:19 |
| nixternal | when i did # sudo apt-get install amarok | 05:19 |
| nixternal | it installed it | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: he doesnt have any plugins on that repo... | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | it's got libvisual0.4, but not libvisual0.4plugins | 05:20 |
| nixternal | ahhh | 05:20 |
| === DaSkreech considers wether or not it would make sense to convert a 2 MB song ripped as WAV | ||
| Hobbsee | er, what have i done? | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: yeah, probably, what would you convert it to? | 05:21 |
| DaSkreech | .ogg? | 05:22 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt remember the compression rates. | ||
| DaSkreech | Hmm | 05:24 |
| DaSkreech | me thinks that KDe is being fooled | 05:24 |
| DaSkreech | I have a MP3 and a Wav rip of the same song | 05:24 |
| DaSkreech | Same size | 05:24 |
| DaSkreech | Sounds fishy | 05:25 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: in konq? | 05:27 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah | 05:28 |
| DaSkreech | Hence KDE being fooled :) | 05:28 |
| DaSkreech | KOnq is pretty much the face of KDE :) | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: it's actually a feature - there is only one track, but it's automatically converting it for you, and telling you the file size. hence it takes ages to copy | 05:28 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: no I meant I just came upon them in a folder | 05:29 |
| DaSkreech | I'm not ripping them now | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee | hmm | 05:29 |
| DaSkreech | And I think that AIM has me flagged as terrorist or a Linux user :( | 05:30 |
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| DaSkreech | nixternal: LJ has a protocol? | 05:49 |
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| nixternal | moin ;) | 09:02 |
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal - nice sleep? | 09:03 |
| nixternal | nice little nap is more like it | 09:03 |
| nixternal | 3.5 hours...im ready to go | 09:03 |
| nixternal | whats on the agenda ;) | 09:03 |
| Hobbsee | no idea | 09:03 |
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| nixternal | ts active yet? | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | doubt it | 09:07 |
| mornfall | Riddell: we aren't scheduled today either? :\ | 09:08 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: make up our own schedule? :P | 09:09 |
| mornfall | yeah, again | 09:11 |
| Hobbsee | fun | 09:11 |
| mornfall | hmm, is it me or someone here is "cheating" on the half-year release cycle? :] | 09:15 |
| nixternal | what name is next? | 09:16 |
| Oak_ | nixternal: Hobbsee again | 09:16 |
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| mornfall | what's up? | 09:17 |
| mornfall | oak | 09:17 |
| mornfall | that's the old name for java | 09:17 |
| mornfall | brr | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: Creamier_Oak is another name i sometimes use. | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | very very rarely now though | 09:18 |
| mornfall | creamier oak? .... weeird | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, old nick on zone.com | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | and yahoo games | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | had to be something that was in no way shape or form linked to hobbsee, or any of my emails. | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: it was a random nick without a number in it, that's why it got picked. | 09:21 |
| mornfall | heh | 09:23 |
| mornfall | okey :) | 09:23 |
| mornfall | what's zone.com | 09:23 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: well, now it's linked :] | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: well, yeah..but now i dont use that old link | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | it's a gaming site - it uses activex though :( | 09:24 |
| mornfall | i wouldn't go and look anyway | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | spades on it is fun :D | 09:25 |
| Hobbsee | so's suicide checkers, where the aim is to lose. | 09:25 |
| mornfall | hehe | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as i'm terrible at normal checkers :) | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | actually, we had a lot of fun. me, a new zealander, and a couple of people from the us - we had lots of fun making up stuff, which they believed :P | 09:31 |
| mornfall | or they pretended they believe and you believed them :)) | 09:36 |
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| Hobbsee | haha yeah, true | 09:37 |
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| Tonio_ | hey$ | 01:00 |
| freeflying|away | Tonio_: hi | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | fine freeflying|away ? | 01:01 |
| freeflying|away | Tonio_: ya, just enjoy every soccer match :) | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | I'm fine not to love football during the worlcup | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | heya freeflying|away / Tonio_ | 01:04 |
| freeflying|away | hi imbrandon | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | yop imbrandon | 01:10 |
| nixternal | moin everyone | 01:23 |
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| goldenear | Riddell: I've a professional meeting right now, I will be at radisson's hotel at 4 pm | 01:43 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: poke me when something interesting starts to happen | 02:00 |
| mornfall | i'm hidden in my room for now | 02:00 |
| Riddell | mornfall: ok | 02:01 |
| Riddell | mornfall: what should we put into the kubuntu-edgy-package-manager spec? | 02:01 |
| mornfall | well, nothing? there was no discussion so far | 02:01 |
| Riddell | yep | 02:01 |
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| MidMark | Riddell: in the faq page http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php there are two links to breezy yet | 02:03 |
| MidMark | the one that point to the source | 02:04 |
| MidMark | the other one that point to the known problems (broken) | 02:04 |
| mornfall | System of a Down -- Psycho | 02:04 |
| sebas | Sing! | 02:07 |
| Riddell | MidMark: changed | 02:07 |
| Riddell | although I'm almost certain that I already did that | 02:08 |
| MidMark | Riddell: anyway now it is ok :) | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: when do we get imbrandon's amarok files hosted? | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | if you're html'ing | 02:10 |
| nixternal | moin moin | 02:11 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 02:11 |
| imbrandon | http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <--- Riddell | 02:11 |
| MidMark | I've seen that 1.4.1b1 needs libvisual, is there a plan to put them in main? And if yes also for dapper? | 02:13 |
| Riddell | probably not until after the conference | 02:13 |
| imbrandon | MidMark, i packaged libvisual0.4 also ( and -dev and -plugins ) | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: okay, just thought to raise it while you were html editing | 02:13 |
| MidMark | imbrandon: I've seen but they are for edgy dapper or both? | 02:14 |
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| Hobbsee | MidMark: dapper | 02:14 |
| MidMark | Hobbsee: ok great | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | MidMark, i packaged them for dapper but they probbly wont make it into dapper proper ( only kubuntu.org ) | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | but for sure in edgy | 02:15 |
| MidMark | imbrandon: yes like kde 3.5.3 | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | right | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | whom knows though Riddell might get some freetime and -backport them for us ;) ( after the confrence of cource ) | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:17 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: what happened to exscalibar? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it's in your kde 3.5.3 packages | 02:17 |
| Riddell | it is? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it's me who couldnt get a chroot to work | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: sure | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, he was trying to enable univer and mutiverse so he coudl install nvida-glx and others | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | *wait now i'm confused* | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:18 |
| Riddell | exscalibar is a package in http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/ | 02:18 |
| Riddell | is it used in your amarok packages? | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | yea its in your repos | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, libexscalibar-dev | 02:19 |
| imbrandon | those was built fgor kde 3.5.3 | 02:19 |
| imbrandon | from your repos | 02:19 |
| Riddell | which repo? | 02:19 |
| imbrandon | kubuntu.org kde-latest | 02:19 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: why? | 02:19 |
| === Hobbsee scratches her head. that seems weird. | ||
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| Tonio_ | raphink: ping ? | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, said they require kde 3.5.3 or was it apachelogger dunno but i took their word for it | 02:20 |
| raphink | pong? | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | and built against kde 3.5.3 | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | no, it would have been me | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: do you have access to irc during work ? | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | i'd forgotten i'd had the amarok 1.4 repo enabled | 02:21 |
| imbrandon | hrm i can rebuild against a clean dapper if it will build | 02:21 |
| imbrandon | thats not a problem | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | Filename: pool-dapper/libexscalibar1_1.0.4-5_i386.deb <-- that shows it's either in the amarok repo, or the kde 3.5.3 one | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: ftbfs in a clean dapper, that's why i had a problem | 02:21 |
| Riddell | it's not part of kde, only amarok | 02:22 |
| Riddell | apt-cache showsrc | 02:22 |
| MidMark | Riddell: another broken link -> installing kde, 3rd question :) | 02:22 |
| Riddell | MidMark: pardon? | 02:22 |
| MidMark | Riddell: in the faq page | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | didnt Riddell fix that before? clearly not. | 02:23 |
| MidMark | Hobbsee: fixed two, but I fint a third one ;) | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | no, i thought he fixed one a while ago | 02:23 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16174 | 02:23 |
| Riddell | MidMark: ok, try now | 02:24 |
| imbrandon | riddell, i'll try it against a clean dapper chroot though | 02:24 |
| === Hobbsee is seriously confused now. | ||
| Riddell | imbrandon: use only deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:24 |
| MidMark | Riddell: fixed now... | 02:24 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, ok | 02:25 |
| Riddell | and download the packages from amarok-latest manually | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: where's the deb for exscaliber? on http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/ | 02:25 |
| Riddell | MidMark: thanks | 02:25 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yes | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: can you go look for it, and give me the exact file path? | 02:25 |
| === Hobbsee is almost positive that it's not there. | ||
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/libexscalibar1_1.0.4-5_i386.deb | 02:25 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/libexscalibar1-dev_1.0.4-5_i386.deb | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok, so exscaliber is the source package, hence there's not a deb for it. | 02:26 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | right. i think i get the duncecap award of the day again then. | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | no spacebars today Hobbsee ? | 02:27 |
| MidMark | Riddell: it's a pleasure | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | hah. | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, so dont use -security etc etc etc in the chroot ? | 02:27 |
| Riddell | no | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | either | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | ok | 02:28 |
| Riddell | because some users may not have -security etc enabled | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | only main, got it , ok give me a while to build a clean chroot and rebuild | 02:28 |
| === Hobbsee cant get apt-cache showsrc to work either. darn. | ||
| Hobbsee | what the heck is wrong with me/my system tonight? | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | heheh | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | ohhh i was gonna ask you | 02:30 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, still here ? | 02:30 |
| imbrandon | can you look at the way i packaged libvisual0.4{-dev/-plugins} and tell why its not wanting to "replace" libvisual0.2* but install alongside ? | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: did you say in the control that the 0.4 ones replace the 0.2 ones? | 02:32 |
| imbrandon | i beleave so, but i'll look when i'm rebuilding all this | 02:32 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: no time just now | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | np i'll figure it out | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | *hopes* | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:34 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: oh yeah, next release - can someone remember to check if all of kde gets removed when upgrading to edgy? | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | it's kinda annoying to lose all of kde, then have to add it manually again. | 02:48 |
| imbrandon | lol | 02:50 |
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| Tonio_ | raphink: I'm back :) | 02:53 |
| raphink | ok | 02:53 |
| raphink | I'm stil there ): | 02:53 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: sorry but the wireless network in the hotel is quite unstable | 02:53 |
| raphink | hehe np | 02:53 |
| raphink | the network here is great on the other hand ;) | 02:53 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: you're evil :P | 02:55 |
| mornfall | The Gathering -- Analog Park | 02:55 |
| sebas | Actually, that is where ssh / screen / irssi shines, you can loose network connection without losing context of your irc session | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: how so? there's a BOF on smart at the moment, if you're at all interested | 02:55 |
| mornfall | Hobbsee: oh i forgot that | 02:55 |
| mornfall | grmble | 02:55 |
| mornfall | what is "at the moment"? | 02:55 |
| mornfall | 15:00? | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: currently, now | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | like in the middlle | 02:56 |
| === Hobbsee is listening to it | ||
| mornfall | well, if it was 14:00 it is about to end | 02:56 |
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| imbrandon | 14:30 i think ? not sure i got in late | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: it's on teamspeak too, if that helps. pity i didnt think of it earler | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | *earlier | 02:56 |
| mornfall | it's about to end | 02:56 |
| mornfall | as in, the slot is running out | 02:56 |
| mornfall | i'm not on teamspeak | 02:57 |
| mornfall | there is no fscking internet here | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah | 02:57 |
| mornfall | i mean, only thing that barely works here is UDP | 02:57 |
| imbrandon | ouch | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | UDP? | 02:57 |
| === mornfall is in the room | ||
| imbrandon | tcp / udp | 02:57 |
| imbrandon | stateless protocal Hobbsee | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | mmm ok | 02:57 |
| mornfall | well, i'm tunelling stuff out through ipsec-over-udp | 02:57 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: best thing for upgrading would be to persuade mornfall to put dist-upgrade functionality into adept | 02:58 |
| imbrandon | ouch | 02:58 |
| mornfall | Riddell: best thing would be to fix the screwed up (meta?)packages that break dist-upgrade :) | 02:58 |
| Riddell | mornfall: you mean by using Recommends? | 02:58 |
| mornfall | the next best thing is a better dist-upgrade algorithm | 02:58 |
| mornfall | Riddell: that could be an option, in case some obscure hard-dependency caused the problem, yes | 02:59 |
| mornfall | in fact | 02:59 |
| mornfall | all of these problems are basically due to improper use of the packaging system | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: well, yeah... | 02:59 |
| mornfall | metapackages are an abomination | 03:00 |
| mornfall | but well, we are already screwed, so too late to fix that | 03:00 |
| apokryphos | mornfall: you don't think there's any chance the system would be changed in the not-so-distant future? | 03:01 |
| apokryphos | a bit sad, I feel | 03:01 |
| mornfall | well, what system? | 03:01 |
| mornfall | and changed how? | 03:02 |
| mornfall | there are several ways how to unbreak it | 03:02 |
| mornfall | and possibly some of them will even materialize for edgy | 03:02 |
| apokryphos | the use of metapackages in debian/ubuntu, I mean | 03:02 |
| mornfall | metapackages are not going away as far as i can say | 03:02 |
| Riddell | mornfall: where are you at the moment? | 03:02 |
| mornfall | Riddell: my room | 03:02 |
| mornfall | i could go to the Breaks bof tho | 03:03 |
| Riddell | mornfall: can I join you and we'll work on the kubuntu-edgy-package-manager spec? | 03:03 |
| Riddell | ah, breaks sounds important for you | 03:03 |
| mornfall | breaks is one of those things that have a potential to reduce upgrade problems | 03:03 |
| mornfall | well, i'll run there and see how it goes | 03:04 |
| seaLne | what is breaks? | 03:04 |
| mornfall | and eventually we can do something with kubuntu-edgy-pm | 03:04 |
| mornfall | laters | 03:04 |
| Riddell | seaLne: replacement for Replaces: Conflicts: | 03:04 |
| seaLne | ah ok | 03:04 |
| apokryphos | wow, the whole new amarok design looks quite impressive so far | 03:06 |
| apokryphos | now playing on top, like juk | 03:07 |
| Riddell | playing on top? | 03:07 |
| apokryphos | the context sidebar, as it was before | 03:07 |
| apokryphos | (song title, cover, etc) | 03:07 |
| Riddell | and what's there now? | 03:08 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i16177 | 03:11 |
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| seaLne | can a diff file in debian/patches have multiple files changed in it? they are the same fix | 03:13 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: yes | 03:14 |
| nixternal | Riddell: i am in the process of doing some bug triage and have come across some bugs assigned to you that havent' been commented on in a few months or the application involved is obsolete. do you have special plans for thos bugs, or is it ok to close them due to them being old? | 03:14 |
| seaLne | thought so, thanks | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: which ones? | 03:14 |
| nixternal | right now im in amaroK dir for malone | 03:14 |
| Riddell | nixternal: got numbers | 03:15 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I'm in a bof just now, will answer when i can | 03:15 |
| nixternal | np Riddell | 03:15 |
| nixternal | no rush ;) | 03:15 |
| nixternal | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amaroK/+bug/ <- a few oldies here Hobbsee | 03:16 |
| nixternal | 23289 for instance is amaroK 1.3.1 from breezy updates | 03:16 |
| nixternal | #23289 | 03:17 |
| nixternal | forgot ubugtu was in here | 03:17 |
| apokryphos | great! Now I'm told the new style has been reverted in svn.... | 03:17 |
| === Hobbsee looks | ||
| apokryphos | so the old design is gonna be back :-O | 03:17 |
| nixternal | don't you just love when that happens ;) | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | apokryphos: hah, great | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | NOOOO | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | i like the new look | 03:18 |
| apokryphos | mainly because it's too much work for a minor release | 03:18 |
| imbrandon | gah | 03:19 |
| apokryphos | [14:15:52] <leinir> The logic still needs work :) | 03:19 |
| apokryphos | [14:15:56] <leinir> but no worries, it'll return with a vengeance in 2.0 : | 03:19 |
| imbrandon | not fair lol | 03:19 |
| apokryphos | I will possibly end up sticking with 1.4.1beta1 until then :P | 03:19 |
| imbrandon | me also | 03:19 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 03:19 |
| apokryphos | really bad teaser | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | argh, they've switched all the stuff around in LP hehe | 03:20 |
| === imbrandon hasent been to LP in days | ||
| imbrandon | anyone know when X and kde are going to be built for edgy ? | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | real soon? | 03:22 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 03:22 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 03:22 |
| imbrandon | jsgotangco, curious has udev install thing been fixed ? | 03:22 |
| imbrandon | or is that waiting on the conf to end | 03:22 |
| jsgotangco | interesting to ask, since scott just made magic today on our side but its for ltsp | 03:22 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 03:23 |
| === apokryphos wonders why it took amarok so long to get the usability experts in | ||
| apokryphos | more things I noticed changed, the more I discover they were a good idea (volume on bottom left, playlist actions next to filter, etc) | 03:47 |
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| nixternal | lol | 03:54 |
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| imbrandon | apokryphos, haha how true, and now we got to wait till 2.0 | 04:42 |
| imbrandon | ( /me will stick with -beta1 till 2.0 probbly ) | 04:43 |
| === apokryphos too, most likely | ||
| apokryphos | we'll have to see though, who knows, they may re-revert their actions 8) | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:43 |
| apokryphos | I hear the default icons decision was reverted too; :/ | 04:43 |
| imbrandon | hrm i thought pykde was part of python-kde3 *looks puzzled* | 05:07 |
| apokryphos | pykde *is* python-kde | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | hrm isnt pykde a binarly also like pyuic ? *looks even more confused now* | 05:08 |
| Riddell | that's kdepyuic | 05:08 |
| Riddell | pykde is another name for python-kde | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | gah *slaps head* | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | thnaks | 05:08 |
| Riddell | kwwii: "[Spec tango-icon-theme] Definition Status: Braindump => Obsolete" | 05:09 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 05:18 |
| Riddell | http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/powersave-devel/2006-June/000589.html powersave future | 05:18 |
| Hobbsee | hiya bddebian | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | ! | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Find your brain? ;-) | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | sorta. | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | i've made enough stupid errors today to make me wonder about it again... | 05:21 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:22 |
| === seaLne gets the feeling he did something wrong with his latest attempt at k3b | ||
| Riddell | seaLne: why do you think that? | 05:25 |
| seaLne | actually maybe not i was reading http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/k3b-0606211050/k3b_0.12.15-2ubuntu1.diff and i first thought i had applied my changes to a dirty version but i think maybe it is ok | 05:25 |
| seaLne | diffs containing diffs are confusing to read | 05:26 |
| Riddell | certainly are | 05:27 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, that mentions kpowersave and using hal in kde4 but i thought all that was moving to solid instead of hal ? | 05:27 |
| seaLne | Riddell: i'm confused about why it knows off changes to debian/changelog and debian/control ? | 05:27 |
| Riddell | seaLne: that's the debdiff, it contains all changes to your previous upload including changes to debian/* | 05:30 |
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| seaLne | ah ok thats fine then except i forgot to name one of the patches .diff | 05:30 |
| Riddell | 029 yes | 05:31 |
| Riddell | have you merged the changelogs? so the changelog contains all entries from debian and kubuntu in a sensible order? | 05:31 |
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| Riddell | Lure: http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/powersave-devel/2006-June/000589.html | 05:32 |
| seaLne | oops forgot that | 05:32 |
| seaLne | will fix that just now | 05:32 |
| Riddell | seaLne: otherwise looking perfect as far as I can tell from the debdiff | 05:32 |
| seaLne | does what i've done with debian patches seem fine? | 05:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: just got it in my mailbox... | 05:33 |
| Riddell | seaLne: looks excellent yes | 05:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: it looks to me that UDS discussions have pushed this... | 05:34 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: shouldn't we make a kopete-dev package? | 05:34 |
| apachelogger | ...would it make sense? | 05:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm | 05:35 |
| seaLne | should i include changes that happened between 0.12.9 and 0.12.14? if so how as i think it would look weird mixed in with kubuntu versions as that is not really what happened? | 05:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: those files have always gone in kdenetwork-dev as I remember, but we won't be able to do that now with separate packages | 05:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so yes we'll have to do that | 05:36 |
| apachelogger | k, gonna do that | 05:36 |
| imbrandon | !seen jpatrick | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | grr | 05:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it'll need to Replaces: old kdenetwork-dev | 05:38 |
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| seaLne | Riddell: also some of the changes don't apply such as we didn'thave lintian warnings in .14 | 05:46 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: shall I add a Conflictes for kdenetwork-dev as well? | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah, i'm thinking about asking Seveas for ubotu in here | 05:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: can do | 05:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ok | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 06:05 |
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| lnxkde | is edgy that broken | 06:13 |
| lnxkde | I only have to download 66MB to update to it... | 06:13 |
| lnxkde | ? | 06:13 |
| bddebian | It broke one of my machines :-( | 06:14 |
| lnxkde | broke you mean by software right? | 06:14 |
| bddebian | AYe | 06:14 |
| lnxkde | ok.. | 06:14 |
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| lnxkde | Riddell you there? | 07:38 |
| lnxkde | Riddell you in charge of the website? | 07:39 |
| lnxkde | kubuntu.org | 07:39 |
| kwwii | bye all | 07:40 |
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| nixternal | lnxkde: you find a booboo on the website? | 07:41 |
| lnxkde | ?? | 07:42 |
| lnxkde | na I just want to know how he did it | 07:43 |
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| nixternal | ahhh...i believe it is also part of the moinmoin wiki | 07:43 |
| nixternal | argh | 08:06 |
| nixternal | i just wiped out my contacts ;( | 08:06 |
| lnxkde | on what>?? | 08:08 |
| lnxkde | jabber? | 08:08 |
| nixternal | no | 08:09 |
| nixternal | kontact | 08:09 |
| nixternal | i was trying to figure out why when i goto address a new email...two instances for each contact appear | 08:09 |
| nixternal | i double clicked a little to fast and it was the 2nd click that got them ;) | 08:10 |
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| lnxkde | :( | 08:19 |
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| apokryphos | are 1.4.1 packages being made, or waiting till after the conference? | 08:42 |
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| nixternal | apokryphos: if you are referring to amaroK, yes, somebody has been packaging it around here | 08:49 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, i made some already ( need a little more love ) but are ready for testing | 08:50 |
| imbrandon | if your using the kde 3.5.3 | 08:51 |
| imbrandon | i need to rebuild them for regular dapper without the kubuntu.org repos still though | 08:51 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <-- 1.4.1-beta1 | 08:52 |
| nixternal | anyone else get double contacts in kontact address book at all? | 08:53 |
| apokryphos | cool, thanks, I'll give it in -offtopic, some people there were interestested too | 08:54 |
| nixternal | when i goto send an email and select from the address book, i see you people twice ;) | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, #kubuntu <---- is that way | 08:55 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:55 |
| nixternal | i will kick you | 08:55 |
| apokryphos | new libvisual too? Interesting | 08:55 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, cool, yea just for the moment they will need the kubuntu.org amarok-latest deb also | 08:56 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, yea it requires libvisual0.4 now | 08:56 |
| freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: why don't you add the amarok-gstreamer :) | 08:57 |
| imbrandon | freeflying-g4, just dident get arround to it yet, i will toy with it tonight | 08:57 |
| imbrandon | but gstreamer is the suxor you know ;) | 08:57 |
| imbrandon | xine <3 ;) | 08:57 |
| freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: heh | 08:58 |
| imbrandon | but yea freeflying-g4 i'll get it updated when i rebuild it tonight | 08:58 |
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| freeflying-g4 | imbrandon: nice | 08:58 |
| === apokryphos wonders what new changes are in new libvisual, and checks | ||
| imbrandon | apokryphos, also i forgot to put the "replaces" in the debian/control for libvisual0.4 so you might have to purge libvisual0.2 first before , but like i said those still need a little love, i'll be rebuilding them tonight sometime | 08:59 |
| apokryphos | alrighty, please let me know and I'll try a test :) | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | ok will do | 09:00 |
| crimsun | eh? we have libvisual0.4 now? | 09:06 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: ick, versioning... | 09:07 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: if you're going to build against dapper proper and not kubuntu.org, I recommend you use the ugliest version string possible that will still upgrade properly, like 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4.0~1.4.1beta1imbrandon1 | 09:11 |
| imbrandon | heh ok crimsun | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | yea not a bad idea probbly | 09:12 |
| crimsun | (since any security or updates will be at least 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4.1) | 09:12 |
| crimsun | (and 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4.0 won't be used, but 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4.0~1.4.1beta1imbrandon1 is still greater than 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4) | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | right | 09:13 |
| crimsun | same for libvisual, 0.4.0-0ubuntu0~imbrandon1 | 09:15 |
| crimsun | of course you're free to do as you wish... | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | no i totaly see what your saying | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | i'll do that when i rebuild tonight | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | as there will probbly be some other deps too ( excalubur etc ) | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | and whom knows with gstreamer lol ( kicks freeflying ) | 09:17 |
| crimsun | oh, GSt is back in 1.4.1? | 09:17 |
| crimsun | might have to reinstall amarok then | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | not yet, but freeflying ask me to build it with gst support | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | its possible just been turned off | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | trying to get distcc working with debuild atm so it dosent take me 2+ hours tom rebuild each time | 09:18 |
| imbrandon | lol | 09:18 |
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| DaSkreech | Does any one have 1) a OSCAR protocol account and 2) Kopete 0.12 | 11:07 |
| andred | DaSkreech: yes | 11:20 |
| DaSkreech | andred: can you login ? | 11:20 |
| andred | DaSkreech: yes | 11:20 |
| DaSkreech | and stay logged in? | 11:20 |
| andred | yes, no issues so far | 11:20 |
| andred | neither on icq or on aim | 11:21 |
| DaSkreech | What the blazes is wrong then? | 11:21 |
| DaSkreech | on 0.11 I couldn't login at all and trying to stop them from logging in would crash Kopete | 11:21 |
| DaSkreech | Now on 0.12 they login and as soon as they get the buddy list they log back out | 11:21 |
| DaSkreech | at least they stopped crashing Kopete | 11:21 |
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| DaSkreech | maybe 0.13 will have them log in for a minute :) | 11:22 |
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| MidMark | Riddell: I think have to reopen bug #39444 just reported by me | 12:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39444 in kde-guidance "Changing an user's password can change another password for a different user" [High,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39444 | 12:03 |
| MidMark | someone can confirm? | 12:03 |
| MidMark | see my last comment | 12:03 |
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