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[04:52] Hobbsee: he's still sleeping [04:52] anything I can help ya with, [04:52] linuxmonkey: not really, i think i found what i was looking for [04:52] you can test amarok 1.4.1 beta 1, if you like [04:53] allready am [04:53] lol [04:53] :-) [04:53] oh for goodness sake, i really am an idiot today. [04:53] was the first one testing it === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:54] nice :) === DaSkreech thought you got that prize yesterday [04:54] yeah and he was supposed to show me how to package stuff but he never woke up and im going to bed soon [04:55] oh well another day :) atleast i got my dapper and edgy chroots === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech got Beats Of Rage Working!! [04:56] It's slower than a Vista release though :( [04:57] linuxmonkey: see PM from bot. [04:57] yeah i read that [04:57] that's the guide on how to package [04:57] oh darn! now i'll need a chroot again. [04:57] lol [04:58] and my chroots are screwed, for some reason. [04:58] moin all [04:58] that stinks [04:58] moin moin 2 you 2 [04:59] linuxmonkey: oh well, i can still build the source...i just wont know if it works in a pbuilder... [05:00] lol yeah i'm gonna have to wait till tommorow to attack this, im in desperate need of sleep [05:00] say its midnight here and I work at 6am === linuxmonkey makes like imbrandon_ and goes to sleep [05:07] Hmm well kopete doens't work anymore === nixternal pets his kopete [05:10] man I hate kopete [05:10] i do to [05:10] i hate gaim [05:10] sim i haven't tried yet though [05:10] Whats sim? [05:10] a new one on kde-apps [05:10] high score too [05:11] Hmmm [05:11] hmmm...that's weird. [05:11] these visualisations look odd... === DaSkreech looks. [05:12] They are even over here [05:12] amaroK visualizations? [05:12] DaSkreech: ah, good, with libvisual0.4? [05:13] ahhhhm [05:14] No 0.2 [05:15] DaSkreech: hmmm okay. define your "odd"? [05:15] Well I'm not sure what's your odd? [05:16] http://home.comcast.net/~nixternal/images/misc/visualizations.png [05:16] mine look good [05:17] the colours look weird - they seem to flash and constantly change colours as the music plays [05:17] the opengl one moves kind of fast....but it is clean as are the other ones [05:17] Which one are you looking at first of all? [05:17] version? [05:17] nixternal: which version is that? [05:17] same as yours === DaSkreech sits over there ---> [05:18] the ones imbrandon_ did [05:18] lol [05:18] nixternal: he didnt do the 0.4 plugins [05:18] i got the same package though from his server === Hobbsee didnt see it. [05:19] i got it ;) [05:19] it was part of the package deal earlier [05:19] when i did # sudo apt-get install amarok [05:19] it installed it [05:19] nixternal: he doesnt have any plugins on that repo... [05:20] it's got libvisual0.4, but not libvisual0.4plugins [05:20] ahhh === DaSkreech considers wether or not it would make sense to convert a 2 MB song ripped as WAV [05:21] er, what have i done? [05:21] DaSkreech: yeah, probably, what would you convert it to? [05:22] .ogg? === Hobbsee doesnt remember the compression rates. [05:24] Hmm [05:24] me thinks that KDe is being fooled [05:24] I have a MP3 and a Wav rip of the same song [05:24] Same size [05:25] Sounds fishy [05:27] DaSkreech: in konq? [05:28] Yeah [05:28] Hence KDE being fooled :) [05:28] KOnq is pretty much the face of KDE :) [05:28] DaSkreech: it's actually a feature - there is only one track, but it's automatically converting it for you, and telling you the file size. hence it takes ages to copy [05:29] Hobbsee: no I meant I just came upon them in a folder [05:29] I'm not ripping them now [05:29] hmm [05:30] And I think that AIM has me flagged as terrorist or a Linux user :( === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:49] nixternal: LJ has a protocol? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:02] moin ;) [09:03] hi nixternal - nice sleep? [09:03] nice little nap is more like it [09:03] 3.5 hours...im ready to go [09:03] whats on the agenda ;) [09:03] no idea === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:04] ts active yet? [09:07] doubt it [09:08] Riddell: we aren't scheduled today either? :\ [09:09] mornfall: make up our own schedule? :P [09:11] yeah, again [09:11] fun [09:15] hmm, is it me or someone here is "cheating" on the half-year release cycle? :] [09:16] what name is next? [09:16] nixternal: Hobbsee again === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@61.49.168.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:17] what's up? [09:17] oak [09:17] that's the old name for java [09:17] brr [09:18] mornfall: Creamier_Oak is another name i sometimes use. [09:18] very very rarely now though [09:18] creamier oak? .... weeird [09:19] yeah, old nick on zone.com [09:19] and yahoo games [09:19] had to be something that was in no way shape or form linked to hobbsee, or any of my emails. [09:21] mornfall: it was a random nick without a number in it, that's why it got picked. [09:23] heh [09:23] okey :) [09:23] what's zone.com [09:24] Hobbsee: well, now it's linked :] [09:24] mornfall: well, yeah..but now i dont use that old link [09:24] it's a gaming site - it uses activex though :( [09:24] i wouldn't go and look anyway [09:25] spades on it is fun :D [09:25] so's suicide checkers, where the aim is to lose. [09:29] hehe [09:30] seeing as i'm terrible at normal checkers :) [09:31] actually, we had a lot of fun. me, a new zealander, and a couple of people from the us - we had lots of fun making up stuff, which they believed :P [09:36] or they pretended they believe and you believed them :)) === \sh [n=shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:37] haha yeah, true === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61049.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@ALagny-109-1-9-37.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.182.91] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.43.255] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-109-126.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@ALagny-109-1-10-42.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] hey$ [01:01] Tonio_: hi [01:01] fine freeflying|away ? [01:02] Tonio_: ya, just enjoy every soccer match :) [01:03] hehe [01:03] I'm fine not to love football during the worlcup [01:04] heya freeflying|away / Tonio_ [01:05] hi imbrandon [01:10] yop imbrandon [01:23] moin everyone === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=user@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] Riddell: I've a professional meeting right now, I will be at radisson's hotel at 4 pm === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] Riddell: poke me when something interesting starts to happen [02:00] i'm hidden in my room for now [02:01] mornfall: ok [02:01] mornfall: what should we put into the kubuntu-edgy-package-manager spec? [02:01] well, nothing? there was no discussion so far [02:01] yep === MidMark [n=marco@host-84-221-71-6.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] Riddell: in the faq page http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php there are two links to breezy yet [02:04] the one that point to the source [02:04] the other one that point to the known problems (broken) [02:04] System of a Down -- Psycho [02:07] Sing! [02:07] MidMark: changed [02:08] although I'm almost certain that I already did that [02:09] Riddell: anyway now it is ok :) [02:10] Riddell: when do we get imbrandon's amarok files hosted? [02:10] if you're html'ing [02:11] moin moin [02:11] ;) [02:11] hi nixternal [02:11] http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <--- Riddell [02:13] I've seen that 1.4.1b1 needs libvisual, is there a plan to put them in main? And if yes also for dapper? [02:13] probably not until after the conference [02:13] MidMark, i packaged libvisual0.4 also ( and -dev and -plugins ) [02:13] Riddell: okay, just thought to raise it while you were html editing [02:14] imbrandon: I've seen but they are for edgy dapper or both? === Tonio__ [n=tonio@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:14] MidMark: dapper [02:14] Hobbsee: ok great [02:15] MidMark, i packaged them for dapper but they probbly wont make it into dapper proper ( only kubuntu.org ) [02:15] but for sure in edgy [02:16] imbrandon: yes like kde 3.5.3 [02:16] right [02:17] whom knows though Riddell might get some freetime and -backport them for us ;) ( after the confrence of cource ) [02:17] hehe [02:17] imbrandon: what happened to exscalibar? [02:17] Riddell: it's in your kde 3.5.3 packages [02:17] it is? [02:17] Riddell: it's me who couldnt get a chroot to work [02:18] Riddell: sure [02:18] Riddell, he was trying to enable univer and mutiverse so he coudl install nvida-glx and others [02:18] *wait now i'm confused* [02:18] lol [02:18] exscalibar is a package in http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/ [02:18] is it used in your amarok packages? [02:19] yea its in your repos [02:19] Riddell: yeah, libexscalibar-dev [02:19] those was built fgor kde 3.5.3 [02:19] from your repos [02:19] which repo? [02:19] kubuntu.org kde-latest [02:19] imbrandon: why? === Hobbsee scratches her head. that seems weird. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] raphink: ping ? [02:20] Hobbsee, said they require kde 3.5.3 or was it apachelogger dunno but i took their word for it [02:20] pong? [02:20] and built against kde 3.5.3 [02:20] no, it would have been me [02:20] raphink: do you have access to irc during work ? [02:21] i'd forgotten i'd had the amarok 1.4 repo enabled [02:21] hrm i can rebuild against a clean dapper if it will build [02:21] thats not a problem [02:21] Filename: pool-dapper/libexscalibar1_1.0.4-5_i386.deb <-- that shows it's either in the amarok repo, or the kde 3.5.3 one [02:21] imbrandon: ftbfs in a clean dapper, that's why i had a problem [02:22] it's not part of kde, only amarok [02:22] apt-cache showsrc [02:22] Riddell: another broken link -> installing kde, 3rd question :) [02:22] MidMark: pardon? [02:22] Riddell: in the faq page [02:23] didnt Riddell fix that before? clearly not. [02:23] Hobbsee: fixed two, but I fint a third one ;) [02:23] no, i thought he fixed one a while ago [02:23] Riddell, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16174 [02:24] MidMark: ok, try now [02:24] riddell, i'll try it against a clean dapper chroot though === Hobbsee is seriously confused now. [02:24] imbrandon: use only deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse [02:24] ah [02:24] Riddell: fixed now... [02:25] Riddell, ok [02:25] and download the packages from amarok-latest manually [02:25] Riddell: where's the deb for exscaliber? on http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/ [02:25] MidMark: thanks [02:25] Hobbsee: yes [02:25] Riddell: can you go look for it, and give me the exact file path? === Hobbsee is almost positive that it's not there. [02:25] http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/libexscalibar1_1.0.4-5_i386.deb [02:26] http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14/pool-dapper/libexscalibar1-dev_1.0.4-5_i386.deb [02:26] oh ok, so exscaliber is the source package, hence there's not a deb for it. [02:26] yes [02:26] right. i think i get the duncecap award of the day again then. [02:26] ;) [02:27] no spacebars today Hobbsee ? [02:27] Riddell: it's a pleasure [02:27] hah. [02:27] Riddell, so dont use -security etc etc etc in the chroot ? [02:28] no [02:28] either [02:28] ok [02:28] because some users may not have -security etc enabled [02:28] only main, got it , ok give me a while to build a clean chroot and rebuild === Hobbsee cant get apt-cache showsrc to work either. darn. [02:29] what the heck is wrong with me/my system tonight? [02:29] heheh [02:30] ohhh i was gonna ask you [02:30] Riddell, still here ? [02:31] can you look at the way i packaged libvisual0.4{-dev/-plugins} and tell why its not wanting to "replace" libvisual0.2* but install alongside ? [02:32] imbrandon: did you say in the control that the 0.4 ones replace the 0.2 ones? [02:32] i beleave so, but i'll look when i'm rebuilding all this [02:33] imbrandon: no time just now [02:34] np i'll figure it out [02:34] *hopes* [02:34] ;) [02:48] Riddell: oh yeah, next release - can someone remember to check if all of kde gets removed when upgrading to edgy? [02:48] it's kinda annoying to lose all of kde, then have to add it manually again. [02:50] lol === Tonio_ [n=tonio@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] raphink: I'm back :) [02:53] ok [02:53] I'm stil there ): [02:53] raphink: sorry but the wireless network in the hotel is quite unstable [02:53] hehe np [02:53] the network here is great on the other hand ;) [02:55] Hobbsee: you're evil :P [02:55] The Gathering -- Analog Park [02:55] Actually, that is where ssh / screen / irssi shines, you can loose network connection without losing context of your irc session [02:55] mornfall: how so? there's a BOF on smart at the moment, if you're at all interested [02:55] Hobbsee: oh i forgot that [02:55] grmble [02:55] what is "at the moment"? [02:56] 15:00? [02:56] mornfall: currently, now [02:56] like in the middlle === Hobbsee is listening to it [02:56] well, if it was 14:00 it is about to end === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-48-98.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] 14:30 i think ? not sure i got in late [02:56] mornfall: it's on teamspeak too, if that helps. pity i didnt think of it earler [02:56] *earlier [02:56] it's about to end [02:56] as in, the slot is running out [02:57] i'm not on teamspeak [02:57] there is no fscking internet here [02:57] oh yeah [02:57] i mean, only thing that barely works here is UDP [02:57] ouch [02:57] UDP? === mornfall is in the room [02:57] tcp / udp [02:57] stateless protocal Hobbsee [02:57] mmm ok [02:57] well, i'm tunelling stuff out through ipsec-over-udp [02:58] Hobbsee: best thing for upgrading would be to persuade mornfall to put dist-upgrade functionality into adept [02:58] ouch [02:58] Riddell: best thing would be to fix the screwed up (meta?)packages that break dist-upgrade :) [02:58] mornfall: you mean by using Recommends? [02:58] the next best thing is a better dist-upgrade algorithm [02:59] Riddell: that could be an option, in case some obscure hard-dependency caused the problem, yes [02:59] in fact [02:59] all of these problems are basically due to improper use of the packaging system [02:59] Riddell: well, yeah... [03:00] metapackages are an abomination [03:00] but well, we are already screwed, so too late to fix that [03:01] mornfall: you don't think there's any chance the system would be changed in the not-so-distant future? [03:01] a bit sad, I feel [03:01] well, what system? [03:02] and changed how? [03:02] there are several ways how to unbreak it [03:02] and possibly some of them will even materialize for edgy [03:02] the use of metapackages in debian/ubuntu, I mean [03:02] metapackages are not going away as far as i can say [03:02] mornfall: where are you at the moment? [03:02] Riddell: my room [03:03] i could go to the Breaks bof tho [03:03] mornfall: can I join you and we'll work on the kubuntu-edgy-package-manager spec? [03:03] ah, breaks sounds important for you [03:03] breaks is one of those things that have a potential to reduce upgrade problems [03:04] well, i'll run there and see how it goes [03:04] what is breaks? [03:04] and eventually we can do something with kubuntu-edgy-pm [03:04] laters [03:04] seaLne: replacement for Replaces: Conflicts: [03:04] ah ok [03:06] wow, the whole new amarok design looks quite impressive so far [03:07] now playing on top, like juk [03:07] playing on top? [03:07] the context sidebar, as it was before [03:07] (song title, cover, etc) [03:08] and what's there now? [03:11] Riddell: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i16177 === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:13] can a diff file in debian/patches have multiple files changed in it? they are the same fix === Tonio__ [n=tonio@ALagny-109-1-10-249.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] seaLne: yes [03:14] Riddell: i am in the process of doing some bug triage and have come across some bugs assigned to you that havent' been commented on in a few months or the application involved is obsolete. do you have special plans for thos bugs, or is it ok to close them due to them being old? [03:14] thought so, thanks [03:14] nixternal: which ones? [03:14] right now im in amaroK dir for malone [03:15] nixternal: got numbers [03:15] nixternal: I'm in a bof just now, will answer when i can [03:15] np Riddell [03:15] no rush ;) [03:16] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amaroK/+bug/ <- a few oldies here Hobbsee [03:16] 23289 for instance is amaroK 1.3.1 from breezy updates [03:17] #23289 [03:17] forgot ubugtu was in here [03:17] great! Now I'm told the new style has been reverted in svn.... === Hobbsee looks [03:17] so the old design is gonna be back :-O [03:17] don't you just love when that happens ;) [03:18] hmmm [03:18] apokryphos: hah, great [03:18] NOOOO [03:18] i like the new look [03:18] mainly because it's too much work for a minor release [03:19] gah [03:19] [14:15:52] The logic still needs work :) [03:19] [14:15:56] but no worries, it'll return with a vengeance in 2.0 : [03:19] not fair lol [03:19] I will possibly end up sticking with 1.4.1beta1 until then :P [03:19] me also [03:19] ;) [03:20] really bad teaser [03:20] argh, they've switched all the stuff around in LP hehe === imbrandon hasent been to LP in days [03:21] anyone know when X and kde are going to be built for edgy ? [03:22] real soon? [03:22] =) [03:22] hehe [03:22] jsgotangco, curious has udev install thing been fixed ? [03:22] or is that waiting on the conf to end [03:22] interesting to ask, since scott just made magic today on our side but its for ltsp [03:23] ahh === apokryphos wonders why it took amarok so long to get the usability experts in [03:47] more things I noticed changed, the more I discover they were a good idea (volume on bottom left, playlist actions next to filter, etc) === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.198] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee makes a note that her login name for ftp is case sensitive! [03:54] lol === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.61.0] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir__ [n=abattoir@59.92.51.245] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-236-45.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-236-45.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === abattoir___ [n=abattoir@59.92.49.124] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir____ [n=abattoir@59.92.46.161] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-48-98.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.252] has joined #kubuntu-devel === andre^off [i=bnc@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-142-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@68-235-253-154.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] apokryphos, haha how true, and now we got to wait till 2.0 [04:43] ( /me will stick with -beta1 till 2.0 probbly ) === apokryphos too, most likely [04:43] we'll have to see though, who knows, they may re-revert their actions 8) [04:43] ;) [04:43] I hear the default icons decision was reverted too; :/ [05:07] hrm i thought pykde was part of python-kde3 *looks puzzled* [05:07] pykde *is* python-kde [05:08] hrm isnt pykde a binarly also like pyuic ? *looks even more confused now* [05:08] that's kdepyuic [05:08] pykde is another name for python-kde [05:08] gah *slaps head* [05:08] thnaks [05:09] kwwii: "[Spec tango-icon-theme] Definition Status: Braindump => Obsolete" === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:18] Hello [05:18] http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/powersave-devel/2006-June/000589.html powersave future [05:19] hiya bddebian [05:19] ! [05:20] Hi Hobbsee [05:20] Find your brain? ;-) [05:21] sorta. [05:21] i've made enough stupid errors today to make me wonder about it again... [05:22] heh === seaLne gets the feeling he did something wrong with his latest attempt at k3b [05:25] seaLne: why do you think that? [05:25] actually maybe not i was reading http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/k3b-0606211050/k3b_0.12.15-2ubuntu1.diff and i first thought i had applied my changes to a dirty version but i think maybe it is ok [05:26] diffs containing diffs are confusing to read [05:27] certainly are [05:27] Riddell, that mentions kpowersave and using hal in kde4 but i thought all that was moving to solid instead of hal ? [05:27] Riddell: i'm confused about why it knows off changes to debian/changelog and debian/control ? [05:30] seaLne: that's the debdiff, it contains all changes to your previous upload including changes to debian/* === jdong_ [n=jdong@d149-67-102-201.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] ah ok thats fine then except i forgot to name one of the patches .diff [05:31] 029 yes [05:31] have you merged the changelogs? so the changelog contains all entries from debian and kubuntu in a sensible order? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:32] Lure: http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/powersave-devel/2006-June/000589.html [05:32] oops forgot that [05:32]