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gan|y|medsry, was busy12:05
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gan|y|medwhere do i get streaming information from... is there some server or sth.?12:06
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shulmanI lost the location bar on kaffine... how do I get it back?12:08
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slow-motionn812:09
mcrandellomake[2] : *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/modules/fglrx-kernel/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4', needed by `/usr/src/modules/fglrx-kernel/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.o'.  Stop.12:09
mcrandellogrr12:09
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negociohi12:22
negocioi cant install flsh plugin to konqueror12:23
negocioand i can run a ms windows based program12:23
negociowith vmware12:23
negocioits seems to be not working12:23
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walterhi everybody12:24
negocioi need some help12:25
negocioplease12:25
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negociois anyone here that can help me?12:25
waltertry to explain12:25
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walterI have a question12:25
negociofirst12:26
h3sp4wn!ask12:26
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:26
negocioy can see webpages with flash content12:26
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negocioi cant see webpages with flash content12:26
negociosorry12:26
walterthere is a meta pack for kubuntu desktop to install a LAMP configuration?12:26
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negociohow can i install flashplayer for konqueror12:27
DarkStone_AFKhow do i compile source files12:27
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walteris there a meta pack for kubuntu desktop to install a LAMP configuration?12:27
mezzhey. Little problem with the Kmail addressbook. I had a crash, corrupted/lost some data inlcuding Kmail addressbook. Now I can't save the addressbook, The error message when I try to save is :"unable to get access for saving the address book resouce". Any ideas?12:27
h3sp4wnwalter: I recommend mod_perl over php - much nicer12:27
h3sp4wnwalter: php is a hack12:28
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mezzDarkStone: goto the source folder in the command line, run "./configure" then "make" then "sudo make install"12:28
walteryes I know ...but12:28
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h3sp4wnwalter: does the p stand for perl - if it does I will help you but not interested in php12:28
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negocioplease, help me installing flashplayer in konqueror12:28
h3sp4wn!flash12:29
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats12:29
DarkStoneok12:29
DarkStonethanks mess12:29
DarkStonemezz*12:29
geneo93DarkStone:  did your ip change yet12:30
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walterI want to know if exist a meta-package or some else that install a LAMP configuration12:30
DarkStoneno12:30
DarkStonegeneo9312:30
DarkStoneit works like a charm12:30
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geneo93k12:30
walterin the server edition there is12:30
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walterhowto install LAMP in desktop edition? (I want to know if exist a short way)12:32
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h3sp4wnserver and desktop editions use the same repositories12:33
linuxmonkeyserver = text mode + base system12:34
walterok I know that12:34
walterbut in server editio I hear that I can install LAMP in easy way12:35
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h3sp4wnInstall apache mysql-server php512:36
mezzcan anyone solve my problem? Know anything about the KDE addressbook, maybe I can delete something in .kde?12:36
walterok I'll try.. thanks h3sp4wn12:37
h3sp4wnwalter: apache2 sorry if you want php512:37
waltera ok12:37
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h3sp4wnwalter: You will probably also want phpmyadmin if you don't know about using mysql from the command line12:38
walteryep12:39
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walterok thanks ... I have to go12:40
mindspitdoes anyone know where is the log file of ISPCONFIG? where is the vhosts file of ISPCONFIG?12:40
walterbye12:40
server__i need help with samba, i got it to share a folder, if i don't set any security i can access without problem to this folder from another machine, but i want to create folder permission with user/password, when i click on "ADD USER" no user apears and no way to create one12:41
server__and in the same time id like to change my workgroup name12:42
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oputresHello! I'm a first time user of Kubuntu. When I copied my mp3's from my WinXP computer to this one they aren't working. Amorok starts and everything but moves thru the songs in a minute without any sound. I heard that Ogg is the thing for Linux but can I not play mp3 songs in Kubuntu?12:45
oputresin a second I mean12:46
geneo93!mp312:46
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats12:46
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server__i need help with samba, i got it to share a folder, if i don't set any security i can access without problem to this folder from another machine, but i want to create folder permission with user/password, when i click on "ADD USER" no user apears and no way to create one, and in the same time id like to change my workgroup name12:48
fyrmedicHow do I get two displays to function independantly and with independant resolutions.12:48
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oputresHmm, that's too bad. I don't mind ogg or anything but my Sony mp3 player will not play anything but mp3's or wma's :(12:50
negocioi use12:50
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negociohow can i install the pakage flashplugin-nonfree12:51
server__oputres: i just did it yesturday12:51
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negocioi use12:52
negociosudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree12:53
oputresserver_: What did you do? Played mp3s on your Kubuntu?12:53
negociobut nothing hapend12:53
server__yes give me a sec i noted it12:53
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h3sp4wnserver__: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf12:55
Server___oputres: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list  and add theses lines12:56
Official_Ci am confused.  I have 2 HD's.  I have win xp installed on one HD and kubuntu installed on the ohter HD.  When I boot, the Grub menu shows "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" twice. is this because it is on the MBR on BOTH of the drives?12:56
Official_Cplease help12:56
Server___deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free12:57
Server___deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free12:57
Official_Cbtw, i installed WinXP twice12:57
Server___sudo apt-get update = Update the Repository List12:57
Server___sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs12:58
oputresWhat software can you recommend for ripping music CD:s into Ogg files?12:58
Server___just add the two lines begins by deb, and save your file and type the two sudo lines12:59
Official_Conce while linux was installed, and then i installed it again after removing linux first12:59
mcrandellooputres: I like jripper personally12:59
Official_Cplease please help me...sorry if its hard to understand12:59
domoputres, go to your system settings and under sound and multimedia, there's an audio CD section.  configure Ogg to the quality you want.  then you can just drag & drop the files right out of konqueror when you insert a cd01:00
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Official_Canyone?01:00
mcrandelloit's a fairly simple interface, although there are tons of frontends for oggenc, and if you want to spend the time learning the command line switches you can do wonders with oggenc itself from the xterm01:00
domthough if you have a lot of drive space, just use FLAC01:00
Server___did u do what i said oputres?01:00
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Official_Cmcrandello?01:01
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Official_Ccan you help me?01:01
mcrandelloOfficial_C: two windows listings in grub?01:02
Official_Cyes01:02
oputresCool, thank you guys!01:02
mcrandellodo both go to the same installation of windows?01:02
Official_Cyes01:02
Official_Cso it is not a big problem, i just do not want any problems down the road01:02
Official_Ccause i do not know why this happened01:02
mcrandellosudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst01:03
Server___oputres: is your mp3 working?01:03
Official_Cis it because of the MBR that windows writes to the drive that it is on01:03
geneo93maybe its the way the drive is partitioned01:03
mcrandelloOfficial_C: it'll probably be way down at the bottom01:03
Official_Ck, just gimme one sec, thanks01:04
Official_Cmy kubuntu is loading up01:04
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oputresServer_: I wrote it down and will try it tomorrow. I'm so tired right now but also so excited over Kubuntu. It seems very nice but it is like when I was learning Windows all over again :)01:07
Official_Cmcrandello: i am at menu.lst01:07
Official_Cand XP is listed twice01:08
mcrandelloyou see two identical entries for Windows down at the bottom?01:08
Official_Conce on sda (drive containign windows xp) and once on hda (drive containing kubuntu)01:08
server__exactly same thing for me 15 years of ms-dos,win,nt and 1 week into kubuntu01:08
mcrandellohrmm01:08
mcrandellothere's no windows on sda?01:09
Official_Ci'm thinkin, i shoudl erase the entry for the one on hda01:09
mcrandellodon't erase01:09
Official_Cwindowsxp IS on sda01:09
mcrandellojust mark out one by using a "#" in front of each line01:09
mcrandelloif it screws anything up you should be able to go in there and remove the "#"s no harm no foul01:10
mcrandello(I'd save an extra copy in my home dir because I'm paranoid like that though)01:10
Official_Cim just confused about what this means...is it just a grub issue or is WindowsXP listed on both master boot records?01:10
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mcrandelloif you had windows on hda but now ubuntu, and the master boot record is on sda...01:11
mcrandellothen it probably never overwrote the mbr on hda when you installed01:11
mcrandellois what I'm thinking01:11
Official_Cmcrandello: i never had windows on hda01:12
Official_Conly on sda01:12
mcrandellookay then I'm confused01:12
Official_Ci think i have a MBR on both drives01:12
Official_Cwhen i select the drive that windows is on to boot (in bios), grub does not show up. it just boots into windows01:13
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Official_Cthanks mcrandello for yuor help01:15
mcrandellookay then I'm still confused, I'm going to say tentatively to comment out one of the windows entries, anyone else feel free to chime in with which one would be better :)01:15
Official_Cyeah, i will try that01:15
Official_Cthanks man01:16
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mcrandelloif it doesn't let you get into windows then go back into kubuntu and switch the commented out one01:16
mcrandellogood luck!01:16
geneo93get rid of both01:16
mcrandellolol01:16
Official_Ci think i saw you in here yesterday...im gonna add you as a buddy in GAIM if its ok01:16
oputresHmm, how do I get into "administrator mode" in the Terminal?01:17
mcrandellonp, I'm just hanging out till someone comes along who can tell me why fglrx hurts me so01:17
geneo93sudo01:17
mcrandellooputres: sudo <command>01:17
mcrandelloif you want to stay admin(dangerous) sudo -i01:17
Official_Clol, wish i could help you but im a newb with that stuff01:17
Official_Clater man01:17
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mcrandellolater01:17
oputresThanks. I feel so lost right now. I'm looking for a folder that is placed on the desktop but I can't find it via the Terminal. How do I step backwards in the Terminal, you know, like cd..01:19
geneo93cd /mone/username01:19
geneo93home01:19
oputresAah, thanks. I'm so tired right now, got to sleep. Will contine first time in the morning :) Good night! (It's 1:30 PM in Sweden)01:21
geneo93am you mean01:21
geneo93pm past midnight01:22
HawkwindMaybe he sleeps during the day and works at night01:22
geneo93hey it could be after midnight01:23
geneo93Hawkwind its AM01:23
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HawkwindI know.  I'm just saying, he might be confused and thought he was going to sleep during the day01:24
geneo93yeah01:24
geneo93ubuntu might get you confused after using XP01:24
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geneo93Hawkwind no memory crash in mdv yet after 21 h and 40 m01:26
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JordiGHHey, how can I remap the apple key so that it behaves like the alt key?01:31
JordiGHRunning the kubuntu livecd on a ppc architecture, of course.01:31
JordiGHRight now the alt-option key is the one that works like the alt key.01:31
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bioticpro Looking to buy an Nvidia card... which of these do yall think is best bet?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814127203%2CN82E16814130014%2CN82E16814133149%2CN82E1681416405601:47
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deuce868Is it just me or does superkaramba just eat up cpu/ram?01:51
CaptainMorganI eat your ram01:52
r0xzbioticpro: second one, but a 6600gt with 256MB mem is not much more expensive and is low budget game entry01:54
r0xzdepends what you want though01:54
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apokryphosdeuce868: it eats up your ram, yeah01:54
deuce868naw, the ram isn't so bad since it has 3gb in it, but turning it off went from 47% cpu on a 3.0 P4 to 7% lol01:55
deuce868new to KDE and it suprised me a bit01:55
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bioticpror0xz: I don't think I can take advantage of that card, my computer is pretty old, Dell Optiplex GX 260, 1.8 ghz 512 mb ram01:59
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r0xzbioticpro: i think you're right there, i wouldn't do that either... go low and slow on that box ;)02:02
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bioticpror0xz: so given my spec's, what card do ya recommend?  (Im assuming still one of th 6200s)02:13
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd<------ loves kubuntu02:18
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r0xzbioticpro: are you sure about the cpu? ( http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,668796,00.asp )02:19
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdnow , i could only get the kopete 12 to work02:19
r0xzbecause if it's the cpu on the page above i would take a 6600gt 128MB02:19
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdif02:19
r0xzlittle overkill maybe, yes02:20
linuxmonkeyn0ctuRnaL-fieNd:  i can help ya there02:21
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r0xzand the advantage: you can take the card into a next (selfbuild) system when the conroe enters market02:22
lime4x4has anyone tried the new 2.17 kernel yet?02:22
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deuce868lime4x4: not yet, but looking forward to seeing if I can get some wireless on my powerbook with it. :-)02:23
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey:  i cant send pms02:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: ive tried it out last night,  one was the deb and one i compiled myself but both had the same problems02:24
linuxmonkeywhat problem02:24
lime4x4i was thinking of trying it myself just to c if there is  aperformance gain02:25
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: it would not display any accounts , the app properties didnt work and when hit next for shits and giggles it crashed and krashed kde too02:25
deuce868lime4x4: there have been a number of people trying it on Webhostingtalk.com and not seen much by way of performance02:25
deuce868http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=52369502:26
linuxmonkeyodd n0ctuRnaL-fieNd i never had that issue at all02:26
osirishow do you do a fuzzy search for a package name02:26
lime4x4deuce thanks i'll check it out02:26
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: ok , send me the link to the deb you have used and ill install it , ill show you the screenshot of whats going on02:27
linuxmonkeyn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: can u see pm's?02:27
bioticpror0xz: yeah, youre right, its more like a 2Ghz cpu02:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: i can see pms but can reply02:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: cant02:28
linuxmonkeyare you on 64 bit or 32 bit?02:28
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: i use 64bit, i got the link02:28
linuxmonkeyget the right one then02:29
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: i got the right one02:29
linuxmonkeythat was packaged by a very good friend of mine and none of us are having issues with it02:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: _amd64.deb02:30
linuxmonkeyyep02:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: i think that friend gave me the link to it lastnight02:30
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linuxmonkeyn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: who was it?02:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: dont remember  now , chile or chan something?/ not sure02:31
linuxmonkeyhe's sleeping right now. should be up in the next hour or so02:32
bioticpror0xz: Im looking to spend under $100 for a card, I think 6600 gt are way more...02:32
r0xzbioticpro: this is not really the right channel for it, but you have to look at what you're gaming, what the future plans are at the moment and try to mix that in a choice. That's about all i think you'll need while taking advise in a shop.02:32
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: ive talked to him about the errors , he coulnt figure out what was wrong02:32
h3sp4wnI wouldn't recommend using random debs unless you can build them with debuild -uc -us (makes sure they haven't used that checkinstall junk)02:32
r0xzyeah there're more, like 130 euro02:33
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: so apt-get -i .deb?  right?02:33
linuxmonkeyno02:33
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linuxmonkeysudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb02:34
Benneri need help with samba, here i am: i setup samba with user type security, i did some trick like smbpasswd username... into my XP machines, when i click on the folder it ask me to change my password because the domain account is expired... help!!  what i want is each user have is own password and the file who are permit will appears02:34
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: ohh , ok im still trying to memorise the commands02:34
h3sp4wnn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: What is the location of the deb you are trying to install ?02:34
r0xzbioticpro: personally, i would wait for the conroe and buy a whole new system with a mainstream videocard. These conroes are very sexy :p02:35
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: /home/user02:35
linuxmonkeyh3sp4wn: he's installing kopete 0.1202:36
h3sp4wnIs it built with checkinstall or properly ?02:37
bioticpror0xz: whats a conroe?02:37
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdh3sp4wn:  i compiled it from source lastnight , but it didnt work properly02:37
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pestilencei just bought a hard drive with the idea of putting in an external enclosure.  anybody have any advice?  i'm looking at this one:02:38
pestilencehttp://www.egoodz.com/product.asp?pf_id=3500SEAPRED02:38
bioticpror0xz: this? http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=277002:39
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Benneranybody have a clue for my question02:40
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r0xzbioticpro: sorry, that page takes me to .zipzoomfly02:42
r0xzcan't read it02:43
pestilenceBenner, what is it02:43
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linuxmonkeyhey n0ctuRnaL-fieNd what version of KDE you running02:43
bioticpror0xz: first link on google "conroe video card"02:43
osirisanyone know the proper package name for giblib, so i can apt-get it ?02:43
CheeseBurgerManosiris: try 'sudo apt-get install giblib1'02:44
Benneri need help with samba, here i am: i setup samba with user type security, i did some trick like smbpasswd username... into my XP machines, when i click on the folder it ask me to change my password because the domain account is expired... help!!  what i want is each user have is own password and the file who are permit will appears02:44
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: 3.5.202:44
linuxmonkeythere's yout problem02:44
osiristhx CheeseBurgerMan.  that did it02:44
pestilenceBenner, is the username on your linux machine the same as on the windows one?02:44
jinhoI have my comp in a dual boot mode right now, but I'd like it to have Windows boot first automatically (since my dad needs to use it) as well as lower the time needed to wait to 3 seconds- does anyone know how to do this?02:44
linuxmonkeyupgrade to 3.5.3 n0ctuRnaL-fieNd02:44
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcan i do it through apt get?02:45
Bennerpestilence: no, but i add a user with the same name in the linux machine, like we did in xp sharing02:45
linuxmonkeyyou got to add repositories and update and it will give you the option yo upgrade02:45
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: which repo?02:45
r0xzbioticpro: no no conroe is het net intel cpu that wil be released next month if i am right. But it requires a new motherboard and ram, so you're probably have to spend much more if you go that route02:45
linuxmonkeyn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php02:46
r0xz*new02:46
pestilenceBenner, so you have an account on the linux machine with the same username?02:46
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: k, ty02:46
bioticpror0xz: yeah, Im gonna wait a while to get a new box, prob get an AMD64 when the get cheaper02:46
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jinhoI have my comp in a dual boot mode right now, but I'd like it to have Windows boot first automatically (since my dad needs to use it) as well as lower the time needed to wait to 3 seconds- does anyone know how to do this? [I hate repeating myself, but...] 02:46
CheeseBurgerManjinho: You'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:47
Bennermy linux machine i want to use it as a file server, i creater a main user "SERVER", and i added a username "Benner"  like in my xp machine, to be able to add it from samba02:47
CheeseBurgerManBe careful -- if you do it wrong you won't be able to boot.02:47
CheeseBurgerManjinho: It's somewhere around line 19 -- it's very clearly marked. :)02:48
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Chongoso does anybody know how to get k3b working in 6.06? i think that the permissions are set wrong.02:49
pestilenceBenner, ok, and then you did something like "sudo smbpasswd -a Benner" ?02:49
jinhocheeseburgerman:is it a matter of just reversing the orders?02:49
Chongowhen i sudo k3b, it burns fine, but normally it doesn't02:49
Chongoi think k3bsetup only gives root the right priviledges?02:49
CheeseBurgerManWhoops, mis-read your problem. Let me see.02:49
Chongohow do i change that?02:49
Bennerpestilence: yes, he asked me a password, but not sure how to configure the samba, he ask me users from the mnt share and also user from samba settings02:50
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: will changing the order do it- or is it more sophisticated than that?02:50
CheeseBurgerManjinho: lemme pastebin mine and highlight around where to change.02:51
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: kk02:51
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r0xzbioticpro: in my view, upgrading the videocard in your system is throwing money away, but when you can get a cheap one to get another year ahead it might not be a bad deal. (i think it's either buying a card to take into a new system in a few months, or put your hand on cheap one)02:51
pestilenceBenner, did you configure by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf?02:51
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis that a known issue that adept fails to open when sudo have been used recently?02:52
Bennerpestilence: i tried it too yes... i guest my settings are ok02:52
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Benneri can't paste here too much lines02:52
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdbe back soon02:53
pestilenceBenner, what is in your /var/log/samba logs?02:53
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pestilencethat is really what will help you02:53
CheeseBurgerManjinho: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/72236302:54
Benneri have log.0.0.0.0 log.69.69.69.2 log.69.69.69.3 log.benner log.benner.desktop and couples more02:55
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: There seems to be a problem with the server...It wont load...02:55
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Benner2006/06/20 16:44:39, 0]  auth/pampass.c:smb_pam_accountcheck(781)02:56
Benner  smb_pam_accountcheck: PAM: Account Validation Failed - Rejecting User benner!02:56
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pestilenceBenner, theres yer problem :)02:57
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: Is there another pastebin you could please use...It wont load on the one you gave me02:58
pestilenceBenner, what username did you add?  Benner or benner02:58
CheeseBurgerManjinho: I'm working on it.02:58
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jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: I really appreciate it!02:58
CheeseBurgerManjinho: The regular pastebin isn't working either.02:58
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CheeseBurgerManjinho: http://cheeseburgerman.net/hosted/menu.html <--- The bold line you should change.02:59
Bennerpestilence: benner02:59
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pestilenceBenner, this is interesting, i didn't think smb used pam03:00
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: O cool (thanks for the extra effort)- but I'm still a bit confused, does yours have Windows loaded first?03:00
Bennerpestilence: if i go "kdesu kcontrol" goes into samba, i can add user from the share and the're also a usertab in the main windows...03:00
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pestilenceBenner, did you set a password for the account benner with "sudo passwd benner"?03:01
CheeseBurgerManjinho: No, but if you change that number it will change which one boots by default.03:01
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Bennerpestilence: hmm no03:02
Bennerlet me try03:02
pestilenceBenner, do you have "encrypt passwords = true" in /etc/samba/smb.conf?03:02
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: Which number is this?03:02
rigonattihi all !! Im using Gnome (UBUNTU DAPPER) and I wanna change to KDE ..can I do that without losing my installed app ?03:02
pestilenceBenner, if it's using PAM to authenticate, the password should be the same as the system password03:02
CheeseBurgerManjinho: Dunno, depends on your setup.03:02
CheeseBurgerManrigonatti: Yep. Just run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'03:02
rigonattiCheeseBurgerMan ... my hardware configs will be intact and configs too ?03:03
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ryanakca_heeeheeee...03:03
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CheeseBurgerManEverything remains the same -- it just installs KDE. The only thing that should change is that your menu will have a lot more apps in it.03:03
Benneri have this line encrypt passwords = yes03:03
ryanakca_I'm03:03
rigonattiCheeseBurgerMan ... and will complete remove the gnome ?03:04
jinhoCheeseBurgerMan: gotcha- thanks03:04
CheeseBurgerManNo, it won't remove gnome.03:04
CheeseBurgerManjinho: Not a problem.03:04
pestilenceBenner, that should be fine, did setting the password fix things?03:04
ryanakcaheck... using telnet as irc client is hard!03:04
pestilenceryanakca, oh come on, it's easy03:05
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ryanakcapestilence: the line keeps scrolling before I finish typing!03:05
pestilencewell that's odd.03:06
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ryanakca_ Very!03:06
Bennerhmm well it now opens the folder , but i cant write, i think the folder is set to root only03:06
ryanakca_very!03:07
pestilenceryanakca, use irssi03:07
ryanakcahehe... sorry...03:07
ryanakcaI do... and konversation03:07
pestilenceryanakca, i love irssi03:07
ryanakcaI'm just trying telnet... irssi is the bestest!03:07
SurfnKidyeop03:07
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ryanakcaEspecially with the nicklist script & a really cool theme03:07
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: yup , it works now , so it only works with latest kde, thanks a lot03:08
linuxmonkeynp :)03:08
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Vosehi03:09
SurfnKidhi03:09
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VoseI tryed adding "deb" location to my Adept and they were wrong so now Adept will not open so I tryed going to /etc/apt and changeing sources.list in kate but it will not let me save it is there something I am doing wrong?03:10
SurfnKiddo you have write priv?03:11
VoseI am using UI how do I get the write privilage?03:12
Bennerpestilence: yes it's now working but the folder is read only03:12
SurfnKidis kate an editor?  use gedit, vi be sure to do it in sudo mode so you can write to the file03:13
pestilenceBenner, well, there are two things to that.  one, you have to have it set to read only = no, and you have to have the correct permissions as the user benner to write to that folder03:13
ralphHI all. Just installed 6.06 and having problems in updating to kde 3.5.3 and getting libxine-extracodecs. everything seems to break packages or is not available. Can anyone help?03:13
Bennerpestilence: in the base settings, the cases browseable and avaible are checked, and Read Only and public are not03:13
Vosekate the editor so use the terninal?03:13
SurfnKidyes but make sure you can write to the file, in Permissions03:14
pestilenceBenner, ok, so the user benner most likely can't write to that folder03:14
Vosewhat is the command to do that/03:14
pestilenceyou have to fix that with a chmod or a chown03:14
Benneryes exactr03:14
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osirisor just sudo kate, and edit the file03:15
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VoseThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.03:16
Voseit gave me this error?03:17
VoseI did the sudo kate?03:17
SurfnKidVose: try this  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:17
SurfnKidVose: its a different editor but itll let you open the file and write03:17
VoseSurfnKid it said "sudo: gedit: command not found"03:18
CheeseBurgerManVose: 'kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list'03:18
SurfnKidnot sure the version you're running03:18
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VoseI think it is brezzy03:20
Bennerpestilence: what is the difference between UID and GID?03:20
pestilenceBenner, one is user id, one is group id?03:20
SurfnKidIm not sure if gedit is available by default03:20
SurfnKidVose: you know what to change?03:20
pestilenceBenner, if you are going to just change the owner to benner, just do chmod -R benner:benner /path/to/folder03:20
BennerBenner user is UID 1001 and GID 11103:21
SurfnKidVose: use vi or vim03:21
VoseSurfnKid wird nothing not error not even the ...:~$ just balnk03:21
pestilenceVose, or nano if you are a newb ;)03:21
VoseI am a newb03:21
SurfnKidVose: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list03:21
pestilenceif you are newb, vi is not for you03:22
pestilenceVose, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:22
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SurfnKiduse INSERT to change things   when you're done press INSERT again. then :w to save and :q to exit03:22
SurfnKidpestilence: how come he aint geting gedit, is that not installed by default03:23
pestilenceno clue03:23
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pestilencemaybe not in kubuntu03:23
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SurfnKidpestilence: my ubuntu had it03:23
SurfnKidweird03:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNddoes anyone know the wwebsite of the guy that makes his own headphohe amps , sells em on ebay for like 65 bucks , he used to put them in like mint boxes etc03:23
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Vose:w and :q just added a ":q and :w" to the text?03:24
SurfnKidn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: google it03:24
azzcohi there03:24
pestilenceSurfnKid, yes, but ubuntu and kubuntu instal different package sets.  i think "kate" is the kubuntu editor03:24
SurfnKidVose: ok... press ESC once03:24
CheeseBurgerManVose: Erase, press Esc, and then type ':wq'03:24
SurfnKidit should let you see :w at the bottom03:24
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Voseok that worked03:25
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Voseok cool adept is opening up now03:25
SurfnKidcool now you know vi :P03:26
Official_Cis there a good reason to create a FAT32 "share partition for my Linux and Windows03:26
Vosethank you guy03:26
Official_Ccause i know i can just mount ntfs filesystems in linux03:26
azzcoI'm a newb at linux and kubuntu and was told by a freind of mine that I should try to install wine...can someone help me a bit maybe?03:26
Official_Canyone know if there are any advantages of doing this>03:27
Official_C?03:27
jmichaelxa few weeks ago i was having issues with kubuntu, and decided to re-install... the only problem is, i accidentally installed it to a different partition than the first installation, and now i have both. i would like to delete all of the files from the first installation. can i just reformat that partition, and delete the lines in grub?03:28
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Official_Cjmichaelx: yes...but i recommend you comment the lines out in grub first03:29
jmichaelxOfficial_C: commenting them out would be better than deleting them?03:30
Official_Cyes, just in case you mess up03:30
jmichaelxOfficial_C: i probably will, lol03:30
Official_Cunless you are totally sure what you are doing03:30
Official_Coh, ok03:30
Official_Clol, in that case, comment them03:30
jmichaelxOfficial_C: if i do mess up, will i still be able to get to gub?03:31
Official_Ceven make a backup of menu.lst  if you are really paranoid03:31
jmichaelxgrub*03:31
Official_Cmost likely, im sure at worst you would only make a minor mistake03:32
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Official_Cbut the menu.lst file is pretty straightforward03:32
Official_Cim sure you'll be fine03:32
Hhhhhis there a way to set the default WM that kdm defaults to?03:32
DrBairwow... 3.5.3 is quite a good deal faster than 3.5.203:32
DrBairanyone know how to make the system tray icons stack?03:33
Official_Cas a matter of fact, try just reformatting and see if grub updates itself03:33
Official_Ccause i mean, it updated itself when you installed, so...03:34
Official_Cjmichaelx, you follow?03:34
jmichaelxOfficial_C: i just finished commenting the lines out03:36
jmichaelxOfficial_C: but yes, i follow03:37
Official_Cok03:37
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Official_Cwell, give it a go...if you wanna be extra safe you can try just reformatting and seeing if grub updates itself03:37
geneo93grub updates if you tell it to sudo update-grub03:38
jmichaelxOfficial_C: another question, why would grub start listing the same installation twice? that is what it does with the second installation now, and i don't know why03:38
Official_Cbecause you have it installed on two partitions so it wrote twice to the master boot record i believe03:38
Official_Ci actaully had a similar thing happen to me today03:39
jmichaelxOfficial_C: no, i mean the second installation is listed twice. the first installation is also listed03:39
Official_Ci wish i could see you menu.lst file03:39
jmichaelxso confusing lol03:39
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jmichaelxyeah, well i may have to show it to you in a bit lol. i am going to reboot now and see how it goes (or doesn't go:-D )03:40
Official_Cjmichaelx: that is pretty weird though, that it would list the second install twice03:40
Official_Cwhy dont you send it to me now03:40
jmichaelxOfficial_C: i think it is weird, too.....03:40
Official_Cif you want03:41
ColageCan anyone recommend a partition editor, preferably for KDE?03:41
jmichaelxOfficial_C: how do i copy it?03:41
Official_Cid be more than happy to look at it03:41
jmichaelxColage: gparted is good03:41
geneo93qparted03:41
Official_Cjust click on my name03:41
ColageThanks03:41
Official_Cright click03:41
Dasnipa`whats wrong with fdisk :(03:41
Official_Cand send file03:41
ColageI'm not that smart =p03:41
jmichaelxgparted even has a live CD that you can use instead of partition magic03:41
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Official_Cjmichaelx, what irc program are you using?03:42
jmichaelxOfficial_C: konversation03:42
jmichaelxOfficial_C: how do i make menu.lst a file that can be sent to someone?03:43
geneo93!paste03:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:43
geneo93just paste it there03:44
Official_Cjust make a copy of it03:44
Official_Cput it in your home folder or something03:44
jmichaelxgeneo93: what i mean is, how do i even copy the menu.lst?03:44
frederic_bye03:44
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geneo93what do you have it open with03:45
Official_Cjmichael: copy it into your home folder03:45
rigonattihi all .... I was using Gnome (ubuntu) then...I run sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop  but ....after restart ..still with gnome03:45
CheeseBurgerManrigonatti: At the login screen click on Session, and then press KDE. After that, it should log into KDE.03:45
Official_Cgeneo: you wouldnt happen to know if its possible to copy ntfs files to a linux partition once the ntfs partition is mounted03:46
Official_Cwould oyu?03:46
geneo93rigonatti:  look at menu below login screen03:46
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jmichaelxbrb03:47
Official_Cgeneo93: sorry can you look at my previous message03:47
Official_Cgeneo93: left otu part of your name by accident03:47
geneo93what kinda files03:47
Official_Cany files, like mp3 or doc03:47
geneo93mp3's yes03:48
Official_Cis it actually possible to copy them? or can i only read them?03:48
geneo93copy them if you want03:48
Official_Cwhat kinda files wouldnt i be able to copy?03:48
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geneo93ones that wont work in linux03:49
Official_Ci would still be able to copy them though03:49
geneo93maily exe files03:49
Official_Ctechnically03:49
geneo93yes03:49
Official_Cthey are still just data and could be copied, just not recognized by linux, right?03:49
Official_Cok03:49
geneo93yes03:49
geneo93copy the whole drive if you want03:50
Official_Cso there is not really any good reason to add a FAT32 partition as a "share" partition03:50
Official_Cbetween win and lin03:50
geneo93well if collect thing in linux you may want to use in windows i would03:51
Nod51I am trying to have kdm start up multiple displays, one on vt07 and one on vt08, but I want the vt08 one to hot have TVOUT. I have this working by using "X -layout single :1", but there is no longer a Xservers but kdmrc. Anyone know how to set this up in kdmrc?03:51
Official_Chmm03:51
Official_Cim trying to thinnk if i would even want to use anything in windows that i collect in linux03:52
Official_Cpossibly03:52
RawSewagewhat03:52
Official_Cill drop a couple gigs for a FAT03:52
DrBairNod51: kdmrc is a mess IMO... its possible but a pain to figure out03:52
Official_Ccant hurt03:52
Nod51DrBair: how can I get Xservers to work again?03:53
Nod51I understood Xservers03:53
geneo93dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:53
jmichaelxOfficial_C: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1615103:54
DrBairNod51: I really don't remember any more03:54
Nod51kdmrc seems to make a simple thing complex is you want to do anything other than the norm03:54
DrBairI just remember it being a nightmare compared to gdm03:54
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Nod51ok well I will google another couple of hours, thanks03:54
cenobyteis it possible to play .avi or .xvid files under kubuntu dapper 6.06 64 bit03:55
jmichaelxOfficial_C: i have already commented out everything i do not want03:55
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DrBaircenobyte: should be03:56
cenobytei should be able to do it with kaffeine right03:56
DrBairwith the proper codecs03:57
cenobyteok thnxs for the help03:57
cenobytei just wanted to make sure before installing the codecs03:57
geneo93mplayer is best03:57
cenobyteok03:57
DrBairlibxine-extracodecs has a lot of useful codecs03:58
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SurfnKidanyone know a good USB Wifi Adapter based on the Prism Chipset?03:59
jmichaelxOfficial_C: i am guessing that you are still out there....04:00
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jmichaelxman, i ran update manager today, and opera no longer works04:00
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geneo93hint open it in terminal and see what it says04:02
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jmichaelxgeneo93: ok, opera is working, but apparently not with the panel icon04:04
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maltronokay... I resumed from hibernate on my lappy, and now my usb mouse and keyboard don't work.  Is there a way to refresh the usb or something?04:05
brizz!nvidia04:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:05
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jmichaelxOfficial_C: you there?04:05
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jmichaelxok i am going to reboot and see how much damage i did to gub04:06
geneo93not if the keyboard dont work04:06
jmichaelxgrub*04:06
maltrongeneo93: the keyboard on the lappy still works, just the usb one doesn't04:06
maltronany idea why this might have happened?04:07
maltronnormally resuming from hibernate is fine04:07
azzcookay does anyone know how to install wine? been reading a tut and got some help from a swedish guy...still can't get it to work04:07
geneo93try ctrl alt backspace04:07
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Official_Cjmichaelx: sorry yes im still here04:07
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Official_Cany luck?04:07
rigonattidoes anyone here use Pocket PC sync with KDE?04:08
maltrongeneo93: right - restart X - I'll give it a go04:08
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maltrongeneo93: okay, restarted X (I killed gdm from a text console) and the problem persists04:11
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maltronalthough I just discovered that the third usb port, the one I never use, works04:11
maltronany other ideas?04:12
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Official_Cgeez, i've reinstalled kubuntu 2 times today and windows xp once:(04:13
Official_Cits OS day04:13
mcrandellojust think of how fast you'll be able to do it in the future though, that's good resume' fodder04:15
Official_Cwhat do you mean resume fodder?04:15
mcrandelloSkills: Can install Linux in under 10 minutes, Windows XP in under 30 with minor cursing04:16
geneo93well you must not have the drive partitioned right then04:16
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Official_Cmcrandello: lol, never really thought about that04:18
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ubuntuEvening All04:18
ubuntuAnybody running an ATI X1900-XTX card?04:18
maltrongeneo93: was that intended for me?  If so, what's the drive partitioning got to do with usb?  If not, forget I said anything...04:18
Official_Cgeneo93: i have been trying to get my partitions just right04:18
mcrandelloWhen they ask _why_ you can do this just shrug and say "rollouts". Never tell the truth :)04:18
Official_Cyou are right04:18
maltronokay obviously not...04:18
Official_Clol, i think he was talking to me?04:19
mcrandelloubuntu: I'm running a 200m04:19
Official_Ci dont know04:19
maltronyeah, I think so...04:19
Official_Crollouts?04:19
Official_Clol, sorry04:19
mcrandellolike when you have to install a bunch of machines04:19
Official_Coh ok04:19
geneo93Official_C:  you have two windows partitions showing in grub right04:20
Official_Cnah geneo, i fixed everything04:20
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Official_Cim all set04:20
Official_Cthanks04:20
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ubuntuI've been fighting the 8.25 driver since Friday now.. I've loaded from live 5 times now and tried about every howto I could find to get a combination of things that seemed to work.04:20
lowtechi needed to change my ip address, how do i restart the network ?04:21
mcrandelloI just got it to work I think04:21
mcrandelloWhat's it doing to ya?04:21
maltronlowtech:  /etc/init.d/networking restart04:22
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maltronoh, you'll need to sudo it04:22
ubuntuwell I can load the dist specific driver and check my xorg.conf to make sure that the correct identies are there and reboot to a black screen that hangs the whole system04:22
lowtechmaltron: thanks04:22
maltronsudo /etc/init.d/networking restart04:22
lowtechgotcha04:22
ubuntuI've seen a few places where folks say to disable the 24 bit defaults and tried that w/no joy04:23
mcrandelloubuntu: try <ctrl><alt><F1> and login to the console...04:23
ubuntuand the agplock setting as well04:23
Official_Csweet, my system is set up just how i want it, finally...now i can go eat dinner04:23
Official_Clol, obsession sucks04:23
mcrandellothen "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"04:23
mcrandelloand see what it says04:23
ubuntuI've looked at some posting saying that dapper from the latest live disk should take the 8.25 outa the box04:24
ubuntuI saw that it had id'd the 7249 chip 1 time and then not another time hehe04:24
Official_Cim out, be back later...thanks anyone that helped me04:25
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ubuntuwhats the command to mount my hda1 root from live?04:25
maltronubuntu: i think it's sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt04:26
DrBaireh..04:26
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DrBairdon't want to mount it there04:26
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maltronwhy's that?04:27
DrBairsudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 or something to that effect04:27
mcrandellomkdir /media/hda1 (or whatever you wanna call it)04:27
DrBairtheres probably stuff already in /mnt04:27
mcrandellosudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda104:27
maltronfair enough04:27
maltronyeah, live cd04:27
maltrongood point04:27
ubuntuty ty gonna check out whats be happening in the log04:28
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNddoes amarok have a EQ plugin ,04:31
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linuxmonkeyamarok has a built in equalizer04:32
linuxmonkeytools-->equalizer04:32
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ubuntu mcrandello you understand the xorg.0.log results for the most part?04:35
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ubuntuI see 3 (WW) sections in it04:36
ubuntumake that 404:37
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earHertzI started my kubuntu box, saw teh kubuntu start screen listing teh services being started, burt now I have a black screen. samb's working, and I can ssh in, but I have no gui. what do I do?04:38
DaSkreechearHertz: can You login on the command line?04:40
earHertzvia ssh, not from the box itself04:41
DaSkreechearHertz: Ah.. Umm04:41
earHertzkdm is running04:41
DaSkreechWhat does Alt+Ctrl+F1 give you?04:41
earHertznothing04:41
DaSkreechSame with F2 or F3 I take it?04:42
earHertzyweah, there's nothing there04:42
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earHertzit went to black at some point, I rebooted, nd it's back up but still black. no x seesion as far as I can tell04:43
earHertzdo I kill -9 kdm?04:43
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNddoes amarok have a EQ plugin ,04:45
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlinuxmonkey: didnt see your response , thanks04:46
linuxmonkeyamarok has a built in equalizer04:46
linuxmonkeytools-->equalizer04:46
linuxmonkey:)04:46
DaSkreechearHertz: Yeah04:48
earHertzdid no good04:48
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david__hello world!04:52
DaSkreechGood now we move to pointers04:53
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david__Java has pointers?04:53
david__help04:54
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earHertzwhat  do I do to get kubuntu to give me a command line on restart, rather than starting kdm?04:57
dartmolxearHertz: try editing /etc/inittab04:59
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brizzI just installed the nvidia driver in two steps05:02
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osirisearHertz, i just wrote a how-to on that05:04
osirishttp://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.005:05
earHertzosiris: url?05:05
osiristhat should shed some light on it for ya05:05
earHertzthanks05:07
osirisno problem05:07
earHertzis there a way I can just shut down any wiondow managhers?05:07
osirislet me know if it works out well for ya05:07
earHertzlike startx but stopx instead?05:07
osirisnot that im aware of, but im sure there is a way05:08
brizzearHertz: maybe gdm stop05:08
brizzthen ctrl-alt-backspace05:08
brizzMAYBE05:08
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r0xzhow to convert a po file to binary mo so i can test it out?05:13
earHertzosiris: your initab doesn't look like mine05:13
osiristhats just a small section of it05:14
DaSkreechno 0.205:14
earHertzyeah, but I don'ty  have id:5:initdefault:, I have id:2:initdefault:05:14
osirisearHertz, mine was originaly 205:15
osirismost systems are at 5 by default though05:15
osirisjust change it to 3, and follow the rest of the guide05:16
DaSkreechWell then you are in run level 205:16
earHertzwhat run level gives me a non-x shell?05:17
dr_willisyou could just stop the kdm service05:18
dr_willis:)05:18
earHertzdr_willis: I triend kill -9  on it. how shoudl I stop it?05:18
dr_willisits a service dude. :P05:18
dr_willis sudo /etc/init.dkdm stop05:19
dr_willis sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:19
dr_willisa service respawns if it dies in a odd way. :P or at least it should05:19
earHertzThanks.05:19
earHertzOk, I still have a black screen. what do I do I get somethingon it?05:20
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dr_willisya could try alt-ctrl-F105:24
dr_willisF1 through F6 = consoles, F7 = back to X05:25
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earHertzThat gets me the grub loader, which keeps loading teh graphical loader05:26
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dr_willisHmm.. try alt-ctrl-f205:28
earHertznotjhing. I can get in by ssh only05:29
earHertzin as ssh, what can I do?05:29
dr_willisi think its time to reboot the box. :p05:30
earHertzok, and then do what?05:30
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DaSkreechlnxkde: How Goes?05:39
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keith_any suggestions on .m4a players? I am trying to stream down some spae music from http://spacemusic.libsyn.com/ but amaroK can't seemto handle it05:43
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therumbleKDE is retarded05:50
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therumblewhy would someone take the beautiful gnome ubuntu and screw it all up05:51
therumblei can't understand05:51
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Snakewhats that got to do with KDE?05:51
therumbleeverthang05:51
Snakethang eh?05:51
therumbleyes, thang05:52
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therumbleall-encompassing05:52
maltronkeith, I'm not sure what .m4a is but try mplayer.  It's awesomely difficult to get working, but seems to do everything05:52
Hobbseetherumble: we could say the same thing about gnome, really.  but dont flame.05:52
Snaketherumble: Why not take your rant to techrant.pastebin.com and save us your bitching?05:52
therumblevlc can probably play it05:52
dr_willisvlc may be abme to handle .m4a   let me chedk the url05:52
therumblebut seriously, i'm just freakin bored05:52
therumbledon't take it seriously05:53
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maltronrecently I've been using mplayer to watch and save wma and real player streams, which I think you're not supposed to be able to do, or something...05:54
dr_willissome wma wont work. :P05:54
maltronthere's a browser plugin for it too05:54
dr_willisi think we need more video codecs!05:54
maltronhehehe05:54
maltroni found that mplayer works better when you compile from source05:55
dr_willismy browser just tried to display the .m4a file...05:55
maltronthe precompiled ubuntu one seems to bee missing some things05:55
keith_I think I have a more fundamental problem with amaroK, my sound is working, I get sounds for desktop events and what not, but when I stream audio amaroK is not displaying anything in the equalizer and I have no audible output05:55
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maltronkeith_ : I have the same problem - it seems to come and go.  I assume it's to do with whether the stream is active or not, because I managed to get it working with one stream once, and then it didn't work last time i tried05:57
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elknof3hello06:03
elknof3does anyone knows how to configure amule?????'06:04
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wthwwjoin #OpenBSD06:07
dr_williswhen in doubt go to the programs home page. :P06:15
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keith_vlc works thanks folks, I will work on amaroK streaming some other time I guess06:24
AshexSo, I'm wondering06:25
dr_willishmm06:25
Ashexis there any way at all for linux to still play music even after the harddrive with th emusic has been removed?06:25
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AshexBecause that's what it's doing06:25
dr_willisi would guess a confused user.. at first hand.. :P06:26
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DaSkreechAshex: You shut down?06:26
dr_willisyou refering to an ide hard drive? or usb drive?06:26
AshexNo, I pulled it out of the case with my mind powers06:26
Ashexide hard drive06:26
AshexI've been listening to music for the past 30 minutes, and the hard drive with the music is inside my laptop bag06:27
dr_willisyou have a hot plugable ide drive?06:27
Ashexnah06:27
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AshexI'm just going to ignore the problem and continue listening to music06:28
dr_willisworks for me.06:29
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elknof3hi everybody06:30
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elknof3can someone help me configuring amule??06:30
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdu still use emule? thats so 90s06:35
elknof3lol...   im just dont have the hability to install limewire...06:39
elknof3i did as on breezy but didnt work out...   so im trying with amule...06:39
elknof3n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, or if you know of some how-to limewire would be awesome...06:40
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd!limewire06:43
ubotuA popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.06:43
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdelknof3: got it?06:44
Ashexi never got java working06:44
Ashexmakes me sad :(06:44
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd!java06:44
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:45
AshexYep, I tried that06:45
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhats the problem?06:45
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AshexThere was no change whatsoever06:45
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AshexI'm still asked to install java with anything that needs java06:46
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlet me do it and see if it works06:46
elknof3n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, yeah, and i think java isnt working on me too...06:46
robotgeekAshex: enable multiverse, and install sun-java5-bin06:48
n0ctuRnaL-fieNddid u get the agreement to pop up?06:48
Ashexrobotgeek: I do have multiverse enabled and I've installed sun-java5-bin06:49
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robotgeekAshex: then what is the issue?06:49
elknof3n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, no i dont have the agreement pop up06:50
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdelknof3: did u get it when it was installing?06:50
Ashexrobotgeek: java isn't detected by anything06:50
AshexHa, nevermind06:51
elknof3i think is just extract it and run... isn't it??06:51
RawSewageyou have to enable the Agreement page06:51
AshexI reinstall the java package06:51
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdyup06:51
RawSewageI forgot how though06:52
elknof3so what agreement page??06:52
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdand then is sais something you have to set which java to use as default06:52
Ashexon another subject06:52
orient2000could not get sun-java5-bin I do have univ and muliuniv the package is not there06:52
RawSewage!agreement06:52
Ashexwhat would cause the error on lines 12-16? http://pastebin.com/72266906:52
ubotuI know nothing about agreement06:52
RawSewage!tos06:52
ubotuI know nothing about tos06:52
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdelknof3: that agreement will be inside the command window06:52
crimsunorient2000: you don't have multiverse enabled, then06:52
RawSewage!termsofservice06:53
ubotuI know nothing about termsofservice06:53
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orient2000how to enable multiuniverse?06:53
crimsunorient2000: you mean, multiverse, and see the query06:53
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdbe beack in a sec06:54
orient2000yes multiverse06:54
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keith_!multiverse06:55
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource06:56
Ashexbah, I'll just continue to ignore that odd error06:56
elknof3i think i just dont have that repo...  for sun-java5-bin   even i have activated all of them06:56
SurfnKidtime to get some sleep, so cyas06:57
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Ashexelknof3: you did apt-get update?07:00
Ashexanyone have a recommendation for a kubuntu walkthrough type thing?07:01
Ashexor would the wiki probably work?07:01
crimsunthere's a desktop guide for kubuntu07:01
crimsunhttps://help.ubuntu.com/07:02
elknof3yeap...  but im not sure i have multiverse activated... i mean i did activate all the repos that came with the installation...   multiverse is there??07:02
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhat the command to list running proceses07:02
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd?07:02
crimsunps, top, and so on07:03
crimsunyou probably want ``ps auxw''07:03
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keith_pstree is usefule sometimes as well07:04
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdthe java installed fine for me07:08
orient2000My multiverse was not activated thanks07:09
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdbut azureus gui doesnt work07:09
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crimsunorient2000: np07:10
VerithraxIs it possible to get true transparency on X under Dapper?07:10
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: the azureus in dapper has some issues, but it should display at least07:10
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crimsunVerithrax: somewhat, using Xgl07:10
RawSewagethe font in my Audacity is all weird now07:11
VerithraxActually, I want that for Opera widgets and not for the window manager.07:11
crimsunyou can't choose that level of granularity yet07:12
RawSewagehow do I fix the font07:12
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: it said x opening device failed , i think its talking about my video card07:12
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crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: pastebin the error{,s}?07:13
elknof3Ashex, ok now i did apt-get update    but still cant find sun-java5-bin package...07:15
crimsunyou don't have multiverse enabled.07:15
Ashexpastebin your sources.lst thing07:15
Ashexthe proper name escapes me07:15
elknof3!paste07:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:16
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1615507:16
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elknof3http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1615607:17
elknof3Ashex,07:19
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Ashexadd multiverse to the second set of repositories07:21
Ashex!repository07:21
ubotuI know nothing about repository07:21
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Suitable java version found [java = 1.4.2] 07:21
Ashexbah, my spelling blows07:21
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you're probably using gcj07:22
elknof3Ashex, can you provide me those/that line??07:22
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: what's the output from ``java -version''?07:22
Ashexelknof3: just add the word multiverse to those two lines07:22
elknof3Ashex, on te top of them??07:23
Ashexelknof3: add it TO those lines07:23
Ashexyou're adding onto them07:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: 4.1.007:23
RawSewageYou wont be able to run Java in the browser unless you ACCEPT the License agreement page07:24
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: oops . 1.4.207:24
elknof3separated by tab or space??07:24
RawSewageyou should follow the instructions step by step07:24
RawSewageand you wouldnt have any problem07:24
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crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ls -l `which java`07:25
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcan anyone tell me what charakter is used for multiplication in speedkrunch?07:25
madarhello anyone got a prism_usb device working on dapper07:26
RawSewage*07:26
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: where u want me to run that command? what dir07:26
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crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: any directory07:27
Ashexelknof3: just add a space07:27
madarmodule appears to load but it doesn't seem to work07:27
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osirismadar, i have a prism usb device, but havent tried to configure it yet07:27
elknof3Ashex, ok.. i've done that, but tha package s't there yet07:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: is sais lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-06-18 11:29 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java07:27
madarthis device worked for me before on other distros but no luck in dapper07:27
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ok, now ls -l /etc/alternatives/java07:28
CornelliusI have downloaded a window decoration for kde-look, but I don't know where to extract the files. Can someone help me ?07:28
madarand I'm not seeing any documentation on it up yet :(07:28
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2006-06-21 00:48 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java07:28
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: aha. :)07:28
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: did you execute ``sudo update-alternatives --config java''?07:29
burepe2I got an unformated hard drive that I am trying to format through qtparted or gparted but I can't get it to come up in those programs. Do I have to mount it and unmount it before it will be recognized? But if it is unformated there is no file system so how can it be mounted? what am I doing wrong?07:29
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: no i didnt07:30
elknof3Ashex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16158  is that all right??07:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: was that in the java install guide?07:31
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no idea, I don't use Sun's JDK, and I installed the one I use by hand07:31
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: ok , so u want me to run that command?07:32
CornelliusAnyone knows some good card games for Linux ? I would love to play Cribbage under Ubuntu :)07:33
crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: yes07:34
Ashexelknof3: try it07:34
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: ahh , so i need to use the sun java as default , right?07:35
Ashexactually, ask crimsun to take a look at your sources list, he might tell you if something is up if you're nice07:35
elknof3Ashex, i allready tryed...   but nothing07:35
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crimsunn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: indeed.07:36
elknof3it appears in adept...  sun java 5.0 runtime   but i cant install it07:36
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: yeah , it was in the guide, it just didnt say how to do it07:36
elknof3Ashex,07:36
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Ashexelknof3: have you tried doing it in Konsole?07:37
Ashexadept doesn't do a good job of displaying errors07:37
elknof3Ashex, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin07:37
elknof3but nothing07:37
elknof3the package don't exist07:38
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcrimsun: its working ,  kind of sluggish but works , thanks a lot for the help07:38
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elknof3tha package is not available but other package makes refernce of it07:39
orient2000I just downloaded sun-jave5-bin after activating and updating repositories. It is still asking for mor downloads. Package is there in multiverse07:44
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elknof3orient2000, you mean with adet??07:46
elknof3adept??07:46
grantis this a help place?07:46
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orient2000https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:50
orient2000then use console to install java07:50
orient2000It is very big upgrade07:50
orient2000How can I check if my jave is working. I am done with installation.07:51
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orient2000grant: just ask the question. what is your problem.07:53
elknof3orient2000, could you give me the line to install java??07:55
robotgeekelknof3: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin07:55
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watchmehi07:58
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watchmeanyone alive?? :D07:58
robotgeekwatchme: no07:59
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watchmeI neep support with my amarok and libvisual0.207:59
robotgeekamarok i can try, no idea bout libvisual0.207:59
erudifiedHey, I just installed Kubuntu 6.06 and I'd like to listen to some mp3s with juk; the directions I found said to install libarts1-xine and libxine-extracodecs but (even after uncommenting the multiverse line) I don't seem to have the -extracodecs package07:59
erudifiedcould anyone shed some light on this?08:00
robotgeekerudified: did you apt=get update08:00
erudifiedrobotgeek yeah =)08:00
watchmerobotgeek: I did a apt-get update and it installed amarok 1.408:00
robotgeekerudified: what does apt-cache show libxine-extracodecs08:01
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watchmerob: but now it tells me it needs libvisual0.2 (is installed) and breaks every apt-get command08:01
orient2000https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java08:01
erudifiedapt-cache search extracodec returns nothing so im pretty sure that command won't either08:01
robotgeekwatchme: sudo apt-get install -f08:01
erudifiedbut ill check08:01
erudifiedyeah nothing =(08:02
robotgeekerudified: please pastebin your sources.list08:02
erudifiedsure, one sec08:02
watchmerobotgeek: doesnt do anything.. he tries to install libvisual0.2 again, but fails while writing over libvisual.so.0.0.008:02
elknof3orient2000, those instructions are for ubuntu...   but i've tryed adding the multiverse...  and nothing happens...  i mean the package appears but im not able to install it08:02
erudifiedthanks for your help by08:02
erudifiedbtw*08:02
robotgeekwatchme: do you have a precompiled one installed?08:02
watchmeI didnt installanything myself... I just let apt-get upgrade go.... :D08:03
erudifiedhttp://pastebin.ca/6820108:03
robotgeekwatchme: can you pastebin the whole error?08:04
watchmesure08:04
orient2000click close and reload08:04
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erudifiedI figured there was a multimedia repository like marillat for kubuntu08:04
orient2000these inst are for kubuntu I have kubuntu08:05
robotgeekerudified: http://pastebin.ca/6820208:05
Hobbsee!restricted08:05
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats08:05
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robotgeekerudified: you had multiverse for backports enabled, but not main multiverse08:06
watchmeuuuuuhhh pastebin is slow today...08:07
erudifieduse pastebin.ca08:07
erudifiedrobotgeek, #08:07
erudifieddeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe08:07
erudifiedthis is the line right?08:07
erudifiedsry for excess paste hahah08:07
robotgeekerudified: yup08:07
watchmerobotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/72272708:07
erudifiedrobotgeek, eh? its uncommented =(08:08
erudifiedthe deb-src line is still commented08:08
robotgeekerudified: you need multiverse next to universe08:09
elknof3orient2000, yeah i have kubuntu too...    but the instructions for adding repositories are for ubuntu...   those you gave me...08:09
robotgeekwatchme: hmm, german. does it say failed to override libvisual.x.x.x in package libvisual08:09
watchmeyes08:10
watchme(sry.. Im german ;) )08:10
erudifiedrobotgeek alright, thanks again man08:10
elknof3orient2000, but thanks dude, thanks a lot, it's time to sleep a little bit... i'll be trying tomorrow again08:10
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robotgeekhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu elknof308:10
erudifiedI just got confused by the multiverse/universe thing08:11
watchmeexactly: failed to overwrite libvisual.so.0.0.008:11
erudifiedhey, as an aside, if anyone is using a wireless network card, network-manager-kde kicks ass08:11
erudifiedsupports wpa etc with absolutely zero fuss08:12
robotgeekwatchme: you can override it using "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /path/to/libvisual.deb"08:12
farous_erudified: it did not work with my static-ip setting though08:12
erudifiedfarous_ yeah, check out /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian (path may be slightly diff)08:13
orient2000strange but it worked for me.08:13
robotgeekwatchme: "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libvisual0.2_0.2.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb"08:13
erudifiedit won't work with static IP addresses sadly, im sure that'll be fixed in some later version08:13
farous_i hope so :)08:13
robotgeekerudified: setup static ips on the router08:13
erudified*nods* that'd be a good solution08:13
erudifiedI don't mind just using dhcp for my laptop08:14
robotgeeki have the shcp server on the router assign static ips based on mac addresses08:14
robotgeekdhcp, err08:14
watchmewow.... that seems to work... :D08:14
farous_robotgeek: i have 4 machines here so i need to know where i send my material. do not know how your suggest work though08:14
erudifiedany of you guys know the status of xserver-xgl?08:15
erudifiedI've got a radeon 9000/64mb, think it'd run worth a shit?08:15
robotgeekfarous_: yeah, it should work. i had same thing in my old setup08:16
elknof3robotgeek, thanks i think that worked...08:16
farous_robotgeek: so i can set the machine ip addresses on the router ?08:16
farous_jsut making sure i understand correctly08:16
robotgeekfarous_: check with your router manual, but yes. Assign ip based on mac address of computer08:17
robotgeekyour cmoputer thinks it is dhcp, but it is static ip :)08:17
farous_robotgeek: i will check though i doubt mine support it thanks thought a direction worth checking08:17
farous_:)08:18
erudifiedfarous_ if yours doesnt id suggest upgrading08:18
farous_nah08:18
erudifiedive had insane amounts of trouble from cheapo linksys belkin etc waps08:18
farous_am happy with manyal config :)08:18
pd273Am installing KDE 3.5 now, cant wait to see how it feels :-D08:19
erudifiedpd273 it brings the snappy08:19
pd273:)08:19
watchmerobotgeek: THX man...08:20
watchmerobotgeek: it really works :D08:20
robotgeekheh, no problem watchme08:20
erudifiedhahaha08:21
erudified"doomsday device?? now the ball's in farnsworth's court!"08:21
watchmerobotgeek: you cant imagine how glad I am.. Im searching the web for days now :D08:21
watchmeok... thx .. and good bye :)08:21
robotgeekwatchme: hmm, you know where to come next time :)08:21
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erudifiedrobotgeek #Debian ? hehehe08:22
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erudifiedI just upgraded (yeah, upgraded, dammit) from unstable to kubuntu08:22
erudifiedbig motivator was the asshats in #Debian08:22
crimsun(to be fair, that's more of a cross-grade than an upgrade per se...)08:23
erudifiedwell for running on a laptop I consider it an upgrade08:23
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crimsunsure, I certainly won't contest one's contentment with Kubuntu08:23
farous_erudified: i run both debian etch and ubuntu08:23
farous_no fuss both are great08:23
farous_debian leaner though as i configure it myself08:23
erudifiedthe only pork I noticed were a couple excess services08:24
erudifiedother than that it installed more or less how I wanted it08:24
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jeroanmowoot ubuntu up and running08:24
erudifiedfarous_ did you notice that etch's firefox build was really slow when visiting javascript-heavy sites?08:25
erudifiedthat was driving me nuts (gmail in particular)08:25
farous_erudified: let me check08:25
erudifiedmostly scrolling08:25
farous_nope08:26
farous_running fine here08:26
ubuntuhi all08:26
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erudifiedthats cool; was really frustrating08:26
farous_i run sun-java though so that may be it08:26
erudifiedi mean javascript, not java08:27
exceswateris here someone who is kubuntu expert ?08:27
exceswateri have a big problem with my kubuntu...08:27
erudifiedalso the Dojo toolkit's website, the examples, they were dog slow08:27
farous_that depend on the java plugin you use too right08:28
Hobbseeexceswater: shoot08:28
exceswaterhi Hobbsee08:28
Hobbseeexceswater: and i doubt anyone knwos all of kubuntu08:28
Hobbseeheay08:28
exceswateri have same problem08:28
exceswater:D08:28
farous_anyway i hate firefox in general and just love opera08:28
exceswatermy kubuntu doesn't start08:28
exceswaternow i am from live cd08:28
exceswaterbut alone...08:28
exceswaterit won't start08:28
erudifiedmy only problem with opera, and its a showstopper for me, is that hitting the back button in gmail was broken (may be fixed now i gotta check)08:29
exceswaterright after login08:29
exceswaterit halts08:29
exceswaterso ... ?08:29
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exceswateranyone with a good advice08:29
exceswater:D?08:29
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Hobbseeexceswater: i vaguely remember this from yesterday.  you say dont start - where does it actually fail?08:30
exceswaterafter login screen08:30
exceswaterwhen kubuntu logo apears for second time08:30
exceswaterwith progress bar08:30
exceswaterit just halts08:30
exceswaterno errors apear08:30
exceswateretc08:30
Hobbseeah....08:31
exceswateri tryed to uninstall kdm08:31
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exceswateri think i did  that08:31
exceswateri installed it back08:31
exceswaternothing changes08:31
erudifiedcan you do crtl+alt+F1 and login from there?08:31
exceswateri even tryed to run startx08:31
exceswateri can08:31
orient2000you must install ubuntu on your system first08:31
exceswateri tried : startx08:31
exceswaterit starts08:31
exceswaterafter that it stops saying about nvidia driver not present08:32
Hobbseeexceswater: that's where it says all the stuff about the system booting up?08:32
exceswaterbut i have08:32
icheynei installed the apt-get ATI drivers and reconfigured my xorg, but fglrxinfo still shows mesa - anyone got the answer?08:32
Hobbseeexceswater: did you install the nvidia driver?08:32
exceswateryup08:32
exceswaterbefore that08:32
erudifiedahh yeah; cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sed 's/nvidia/nv/g' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:32
exceswateri can look now in adept08:32
exceswateranyway08:32
exceswaterit should start even without it08:32
exceswater:D08:32
erudifieddid you install the nvidia driver using their installer, then upgrade your kernel?08:33
exceswateri dunno08:34
erudifiedi dont either =(08:34
exceswateri think it was something like restricted packages08:34
exceswater:D08:34
exceswatercause i am kinda noob08:34
Spaceravermeh... after doing a apt-get upgrade and a kernel install i get random gnome errors08:34
erudifiedexceswater well it aint a contest =P08:35
erudifiedexceswater recap this a bit for me08:35
erudifiedyou're running off a liveCD?08:35
erudifiedor you have kubuntu installed?08:35
exceswateri have kubuntu installed08:35
exceswaterbut it won't start anymore08:35
exceswater:D08:35
exceswaterso i run now from live cd08:35
erudifiedalright, so kubuntu boots completely, starts kdm, and kdm fails to start because it can't find the nvidia driver08:35
exceswaterthe story is like that :08:35
exceswateraham08:36
exceswaternow that i looked in adept08:36
exceswateri saw that nvidia glx is not installed08:36
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exceswaterbut it was08:36
exceswater:D08:36
erudifiedyou're looking at the package list for the livecd, not your installation08:36
exceswateraaaa08:36
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farous_erudified: i remember now i have noscript installed. the problem you talked about with firefox was common to ubuntu and debian. having the noscipt ext solved it for me08:36
exceswaterand how i can install nvidia08:36
Hobbsee!nvidia08:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:37
erudifiedexceswater, if it's just X failing to start, you should be able to just wait a minute - kdm should stop trying to start after 3 or so failures08:37
erudifiedthen you can login from the console and follow the directions in that howto08:37
erudifiedyou can sudo apt-get install bitchx or ircii and talk to us from the cmd line08:38
exceswaterok08:38
erudifiedcrtl+alt+F1 or +F2/F3 etc08:38
exceswateri will try] 08:38
erudifiedthey give you different terminals08:38
erudifiedso on F1 you can talk to us and on F2 fix you issue08:38
exceswateri think i know bitchx08:38
exceswaterold times :D08:38
exceswaterirc on linux server on net cafe :D08:38
exceswaterok08:39
exceswater10x08:39
erudifiednp08:39
erudifiedbrb new kernel08:39
exceswaterhey08:40
exceswaterwhen it halts08:40
exceswaterif i press ctrl alt f108:42
exceswateri can have a cmd line :D08:42
exceswateri should know a server or smthng like that08:42
exceswaterto use with bitchx08:42
exceswater?08:42
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Spaceraverwhy do a comp with a pIII proc restart X atfer changing the kernel to 686??08:45
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Spaceraveri even did a dpkg-configure -a... swtill no dice...08:46
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sirblueg'morning! i got a fresh install of dapper on my notebook, works allright, but the touchpad behaves strange, any idea how to fix it?08:54
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sirbluestrange, i.e. the wheel down acts like a rightclick an so on, doubleclick to drag and drop 's not working08:56
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exces_waterhello09:04
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exces_wateri am back09:04
exces_waterwith that problem with kubuntu start09:04
exces_wateri installed nvidia glx09:05
exces_waterand nvidia glx dec09:05
exces_waterdev09:05
exces_waterand it won't start...09:05
exces_waterany1 here ?09:06
osirisexces_water, im here.  but havent tried to tackle nvidia on kubuntu yet09:07
exces_wateri just cannot imagine what to do09:07
exces_water...09:07
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exces_wateri try kdm09:07
exces_waterit says only root can run it09:08
exces_water:D09:08
psb154exces_water can you be more specific than it wont work?09:08
exces_waterit starts09:08
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exces_waterit displays kubuntu logo... and the progress bar09:09
exces_waterit loads drivers and stuff09:09
exces_waterlogin screen apears09:09
exces_waterafter that kubuntu logo appears again09:09
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exces_waterand it does nothing09:09
exces_waterthe computer is not blocked09:09
psb154do you see the nvidia logo when the computer boots up?09:09
exces_waterit just doesn't do nothing09:09
exces_waternope09:09
exces_wateron the second screen with kubuntu logo09:10
psb154have you edited your xorg.conf09:10
exces_waterit just stops09:10
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exces_waternope09:10
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exces_wateri haven't changed nothing09:10
exces_waterone morning it just crashed09:10
psb154are you able to see /etc/X11/xorg.conf so we can examine it09:10
exces_waterfew days ago09:10
exces_wateri try09:10
exces_waterplease tell me what to do...09:10
exces_wateri am new to unix09:11
exces_wateri know about CTRL ALT F1 and so...09:11
exces_waterhow i get to that xorg09:11
psb154are you logged on to that computer some how so you can issue commands09:11
exces_wateri am logged09:11
exces_waterwhen it halts09:12
psb154ok09:12
exces_wateri pressed CTR ALT F109:12
exces_waterand command line appeared09:12
exces_wateri login09:12
psb154hang on...09:12
exces_waterand i installed bitchx09:12
exces_waterk09:12
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psb154type: grep "dri" /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:13
psb154tell me what it says09:13
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noalearHey09:14
noalearIm a noob.09:14
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exces_waterit says or does nothing09:15
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noalearanyone willing to help a noob?09:15
exces_water:(09:15
psb154type: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:15
exces_waterok09:15
exces_wateri try09:16
psb154does that doe anything09:16
noalearI need a program to monitor the system temperature09:16
exces_waterthis does09:16
psb154good09:16
exces_waterin displays something loong09:16
exces_wateron 2-3 screens09:16
exces_waterscrolling fast :d09:16
exces_waterniceee09:16
exces_water:D09:16
psb154now type: grep "nvidia" /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:16
exces_waterk09:16
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exces_waterit did something09:17
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noalearis there like a noob channel for me?09:17
exces_waterlike that: # nvidia-xconfig : x configuration file generated09:17
exces_waterand one more line09:18
psb154exces_water, it appears that you have not install the nvidia drivers.09:18
exces_waterbut how09:18
exces_water'cause i installed it09:18
exces_wateri am new to this09:18
exces_wateri installed kubuntu alone09:18
chavothey are installed but xorg isn't using them09:18
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exces_wateri have a feeling that not everything is ok...09:18
exces_waterbut it was working before09:19
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noalearwhen i tried installing nvidias drivers it turned into a nightmare quick09:19
psb154I would expect to see lines like: Driver "nvidia" or something like09:19
exces_wateri have no idea about partitioning drives... and so on09:19
noalearit blew up ubuntu and so i gave up09:19
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exces_waternoalear  you can ask for help here09:19
psb154one problem at a time09:19
exces_waterthere are allways nice people to help noobs like us09:20
exces_waterjust wait a little09:20
exces_wateri have a bigger problem09:20
exces_water:D09:20
exces_waterok09:20
noalearlol09:20
noaleari know09:20
noalearinstalling nvidia problems09:20
exces_watermy kubuntu won't start anymore09:20
noalear:O09:20
psb154exces_water what is your graphics card?09:20
exces_waterand it seems it's nvidia09:20
exces_waterit's nvidia geforce 4 mx 44009:21
exces_waterokd type :d09:21
exces_watero.O09:21
exces_waterold i mean09:21
noaleartry installing a Quadro FX!09:21
psb154I have exactly the same card in one of my computers.09:21
noalearI dont even find the windows drivers!09:21
exces_water:D09:21
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psb154download the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com09:21
exces_wateri have them in my pc09:21
exces_waterbut i have no ideea how to access them09:21
exces_water:D09:22
exces_wateri downloaded09:22
exces_waterthis is odd09:22
exces_wateri installed nvidia drivers before09:22
exces_watereven started Wolfenstein ET09:22
exces_wateror Warsow09:22
noalearim taking a hardcore lesson in ubuntu. I have my new raptor installed with XP home, XP Pro, and Ubuntu, just because09:22
noalearWell Home is on my barracuda.09:22
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psb154ok... you changed something and broke it. you don't know what you broke. I would try to install again.09:23
noalearbut when I start my keyboard wont work and im lazy so i just boot into ubuntu09:23
exces_waterok09:23
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psb154do you know what you changed? Something to do with your monitor maybe#09:23
exces_waternope09:24
exces_watereverything worked09:24
exces_wateri shutted down my pc09:24
exces_waterwent home09:24
exces_waternext morning09:24
exces_waterno start09:24
exces_wateri really dunno09:24
noalearcould be a hdd issue09:24
noalearit could be corrupting09:24
exces_watersome games ... this was last thing i installed... from adept09:24
noaleardont know how to check that in ubun09:25
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psb154is your computer on a switcher box, more than one computer using the same monitor etc09:25
exces_waternope09:25
exces_waterthis is my old pc09:25
exces_waterthat i use now on my office09:25
exces_water:d09:25
noalearhow old?09:25
exces_waterand i had xp sp2 on it09:25
exces_water2 years09:25
noalearshouldnt be an issue09:25
exces_waterbut here it's a problem with licences for software09:25
exces_waterand it just doesn't worth buying that boooring windows09:26
exces_waterand i choosed kubuntu09:26
exces_wateris nice09:26
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exces_watereven being a noob .... it's still nice09:26
exces_waterbut i have a feeling that is something wrong with my pc09:27
exces_wateri had a problem before09:27
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noaleari just need someone to shit down with me for like a couple hours and teach me the ropes09:27
mindspithallo09:27
exces_waternoalear: someone to sit down with you :D09:27
psb154exces_water, try reinstalling the nvidia drivers.09:27
_paulhello, could anybody tell me what is the name of that apliction 4 weather that looks really great(shows wind movement and such), cause i've seen it in one screen shot09:27
exces_waterpsb154 are u still  there09:27
exces_waterhow09:27
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exces_wateri know i have the,09:28
exces_waterthem09:28
psb154you installed them once right?09:28
chavo_paul, it's superkaramba with the Liquid Weather theme09:28
_paulit shows weather, right? :P09:29
noalearif i dont use kubuntu should i be here? i use regular ubuntu09:29
exces_wateryes09:29
exces_wateri installed them before09:29
exces_waterand i even had nvidia logo when my pc was starting up09:29
exces_water:D09:29
noalearnow you dont, because you broke it.09:30
exces_water:D09:30
exces_waterimagine that i have the drivers09:30
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noalearanyone know of a system temperature app I can use?09:30
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exces_waterbut it seems like i have them in a directory named this that09:31
exces_waterand i duno how to cd it09:31
exces_waterif i type: cd this that09:31
psb154noalear, do a google on lmsensor and then install gkrellm/09:31
exces_waterit says it's no such directory09:31
exces_waterhow i acces that dir09:31
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[Evil] [Ernie] exces09:32
[Evil] [Ernie] if the directory has a space in the name09:32
psb154exces_water, would it be easier to reinstall kbuntu and start again?09:32
[Evil] [Ernie] put quotes around it09:32
psb154put it down to experience :-)09:32
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exces_waterkinda09:32
[Evil] [Ernie] you would say cd "this that"09:32
exces_waterbut i loose nvidia drivers09:32
exces_waterand it will be a pain to install them again09:32
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exces_waterand some cool games09:32
[Evil] [Ernie] erm09:33
hoittrExcuse me, but I have either (A. Found a bug in Dapper) or (B. Am a complete idiot)... When I use the remote desktop tool after changing my default resolution from 1024x768 to 1600x1200 and re-run the remote desktop tool. The vncserver still uses a resolution of 1024x768, and I can not remotely access all of my screen. 1. How can I fix this. 2. If it IS a bug, how do I report it?09:33
[Evil] [Ernie] did you get that, exces?09:33
noalearhow do i run lmsensor?09:33
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psb154you are connected to the internet now so just download them while you are installing09:33
exces_waterand mp3 codecs or something like that09:33
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exces_waterit's a problem with repositories09:33
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psb154now you are making excuses, you did it once you can do it again :-)09:33
exces_wateryup09:33
exces_wateri will install again09:34
hoittrexces_water: You need to use an "\" before the space. To signal a space... Easier would be cd this(tab key) to pull it up.09:34
exces_waterand i will be on #kubuntu for help09:34
exces_water:D09:34
exces_water10x09:34
stuart_has anyone used Open Office Math?09:34
psb154my moto: "quit complaining and get on with it"09:34
noalearlmsensor- how do i run this?09:34
psb154noalear you have to install it. google lmsensor howto09:35
exces_wateryoooo09:35
exces_waterthanks guy09:35
exces_waterguys09:35
exces_wateri will be back ... hehe09:35
exces_waterthis is so deep :d09:35
exces_wateri will install it again09:35
psb154exces_water, this is how we all learn linux :-)09:35
stuart_don't all rush me09:35
psb154welcome to the club :-)09:36
exces_watermy problem is partitioning hard drive...09:36
exces_waterand using partitions09:36
exces_water:D09:36
_pauli installed superkaramba but where did kubuntu put it, cause i can't find it anywhere:(( ?09:36
exces_water:D09:36
exces_wateranyway... thanks guys... for help09:36
exces_wateryou can't see this too often...09:36
exces_waterpeople helping people :d09:36
stuart_any formula editor users here09:37
stuart_OO Math09:37
chavo_paul, Applications - Utilities09:37
exces_waterhi chavo09:37
chavohi exces_water ,09:37
psb154stuart_ there is an openoffice channel09:37
_paulthnx09:37
_paul:P09:37
exces_wateri quit now09:37
exces_waterto install it again :d09:37
stuart_ok09:37
psb154#openoffice.org I believe09:37
exces_waterbye bye09:37
exces_waterand 10x09:37
_paulfinding out about this channel from one of my friends made my life on kubuntu a whole lot easyer:p09:38
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GullyFoylehrm i  installed opera9 on amd64, the shared version, but it wouldnt start. complained about libxcursor. oh well, that's what i get for running amd64. stuff just doesnt work.09:56
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psb154GullyFoyle, have you tried: sudo apt-get install lbxcursor*09:59
psb154libxcursor*09:59
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emonkeythere any information about external USB-Cardreaders for Flashcards like Compact Flash?10:07
GullyFoylepsb154: libxcursor is already installed10:09
GullyFoylebeats me10:09
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psb154GullyFoyle the static version should have everything it needs.10:10
mindspitgoodmorning from greece! does anyone have knowledge on how ispconfig works ?10:10
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psb154ispconfig o_O10:11
emonkeyipconfig?10:11
psb154ifconfig O_O10:12
|lostbyte|emonkey, i think you mean ifconfig )_o10:12
emonkeyups...shame on me10:12
|lostbyte|ipconfig is a windows tool.10:12
psb154:-D10:12
|lostbyte|=D10:12
|lostbyte|Its simply a tool to interact with inerface's !10:13
psb154man ifconfig10:13
|lostbyte|$man ifconfig10:13
psb154lol10:13
|lostbyte|:P10:14
psb154spooooky10:14
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solid_liqheheh, it's hard to even call windows' ipconfig a tool, considering it's practically a read-only display, except for dhcp10:20
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|lostbyte|Thats right !10:20
mindspiti mean ISPConfig ... www.ispconfig.org10:20
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psb154did you just create that domain to make a point :-)10:22
mindspit:-o10:23
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mindspitanyway i am having dificulties to install virtual hosts using dyndns.org adresses for my only one ip address10:23
|lostbyte|Installing..10:24
|lostbyte|?10:24
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|lostbyte|you just got to resgister and you get your virtual host..10:24
mindspityes i reg-ed on dyndns and got 3 domains neomedia.homelinux.org , mindspit.homelinux.org and one more10:25
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mindspitthen i installed apache/php , mysql  and then ISPconfig10:25
mindspiti can handle ispconfig in the address https://mindspit.homelinux.org:8110:26
mindspitbut i cannot see http://mindspit.homelinux.org correctly10:26
mindspitnot http://neomedia.homelinux.org/10:27
mindspitsorry nor10:27
|lostbyte|is your first page "Under Construction"..10:27
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mindspitno .. no under constraction !10:27
mindspiterror 403 Access forbidden!10:28
mindspiton both http://mindspit.homelinux.org/ and http://mindspit.homelinux.org/10:29
mindspitand http://neomedia.homelinux.org/10:29
|lostbyte|Access forbidden! ..?10:31
|lostbyte|IS that yours ?10:31
mindspityes10:31
|lostbyte|Looks like you have a dynamic ip10:32
mindspityes i do10:32
mindspiti refresh it with ddclient10:32
|lostbyte|There are programs for linux to tell dyndns of the ip change.. you need that..10:33
|lostbyte|or the dyndns wont work.10:33
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mindspitany way ... when it works , works ... but i think the problem is to configure ISPConfig properly10:34
|lostbyte|ISPConfig has the dyndns feature ?10:34
|lostbyte|then do so..10:34
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mindspitnot it does not10:35
mindspitbut it has a way to resolve different addresses (doimains ) from one (shared) ip10:36
mindspitanother user of isp config did it to work see www.whittyhost.us.to10:37
mindspithe is great!10:37
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mindspiti just crashed my kde!10:48
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mindspitanyway you can answer to me if you like in the url : http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30582#post3058210:50
mindspitthanks anyway!10:50
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mindspiti think the idea toi use dyndns and ispconfig for home use for personal blogs etc is good!10:51
slow-motionhallo10:51
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wordsh: mcopy: command not found - what package is that?11:00
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Kristopheword, maybe mtools?11:11
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raphinkword: dpkg -S mcopy11:14
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wordraphink: I got it sorry for leaving i was using a tut to make a live usb installer of suse kubuntu doesn't have a small enough version for my flash drive >< i needed the mcopy for configuring syslinux11:15
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KristopheDo you know where the dictionnary for lexical coorection is defined in kmail (kontact)? It has switched from french to english on its own!!11:22
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diiiegoHi, i've a problem with the installation of Xgl in kubuntu.... i've seen in kinfocenter that my 3d accellerator in not recognized.... (i've a nvida graphic card).can you help me??11:27
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apokryphosdiiiego: join and ask in #ubuntu-xgl11:32
apokryphosor actually I guess it's fine here11:32
apokryphosdiiiego: have you installed the nvidiad driver?11:32
apokryphos*nvidia11:32
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diiiegoyes my driver nvidia is ok11:37
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diiiegobut when i lunch my xgl session the desktop bolock11:38
kuzmasterhello all11:39
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yvonne_Hello11:48
yvonne_i was wondering if anyone could help me with installing real player11:49
raphink!restrictedformats11:49
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:49
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yvonne_i've tried it from the adapt manager but it says it cant do it because the commit may break packages and something else11:49
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kuzmaster!realplayer11:53
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:53
yvonne_cheers for those links bot but i've already been through the links and done the tasks11:53
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yvonne_!realplayer11:59
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MilhousePunkRockdoes anyone know a good substitute for KLaptop?12:01
yvonne_can anyone help with real player, i've  been through the tutorials12:01
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drgonzohello12:02
drgonzois there any chance of seeing kbibtex being added to the repo in the future?12:02
Kamping_Kaiserwhat is it?12:03
drgonzobibtex is a BibTeX editor that integrates with kile12:04
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drgonzoerm kbibtex*12:04
drgonzoused for storing and adding refferences to your latex documents12:05
drgonzodo you want the website?12:06
yvonne_is there a command that i;m missing for enabling non free stuff. because i'm getting confused12:06
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yvonne_hello?12:09
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Lynoureyvonne_: Hi12:09
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Hobbseedrgonzo: yeah, add it to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages12:10
Lynoureyvonne_: You can install Realplayer manually from their website or use easyubuntu to install it for you12:10
weedarIs there a keyboard-shortcut equivalent to windows-key+m (to minimize everything) ?12:10
drgonzothanks Hobbsee :)12:10
yvonne_i downloaded the .bin version from their website but when it installed it it just installed it to my home documents drive, how do i go about installing it to the appropriate place?12:11
Lynoureweedar: I'd assume so (I'm not on my kubuntu right not), or that you can set one from System Settings12:12
yvonne_lynoure: does easyubuntu work with kubuntu?12:12
yvonne_because i've tried add/remove programs and adept manager and they both give me errors12:12
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Lynoureyvonne_: Not completely, but for installing stuff other than java or flash, yes12:17
yvonne_lol12:17
yvonne_in tried installing it and i restarted KDE and i dont see it12:17
yvonne_lol12:17
Lynoureyvonne_: oh, worked fine for me, I think. But you can also do it manually, download it yourself, then install12:18
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yvonne_yeh, this is not my machine, i installed it fine on my own thats why i dont know what the hell is going on..12:19
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yvonne_i just tried installing it through another package manager it and it says something about repositories and dependencies12:20
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yvonne_realplayer:12:20
yvonne_ Depends: xlibs  but it is not installable12:20
RawSewage!ntfs12:20
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions12:20
exceshi all12:20
excesi am back12:20
exces:d12:20
yvonne_is there a command for changing repositories12:21
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exceswaterbug12:22
yvonne_sorry?12:22
Lynoureyvonne_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     and nano can be replaced with any editor12:22
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madman101what do I install to get "stdio.h" and the like?12:23
yvonne_cheers lyn, whats nano?12:24
Tallia1Kubuntuhi, i need a huge help.. i dunno why from the last update when i play something in my video player using the XV video output everythign crashes... mplayer -vo xv FILENAME. If i use the OpenGl video output instead, everything works just fine... however, i preffered in the past XV because it achieve better performances.... could you help me understanding why the video server crashes?12:24
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waylandbillmadman101: build-essential12:25
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yvonne_lynoure: i've just remembered, on my install ages ago i added something to that sources.list12:28
kuzmastercan you see this?12:28
yvonne_it came from  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/70611012:28
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Lynoureyvonne_: probably. But the Real player by Real networks is all non-free, so unless you added some other repos than universe or multiverse, it's not likely to be there12:32
yvonne_it comes up under the package mangers12:32
yvonne_it just wont install12:32
Tallia1Kubuntuso, can anybody help me?12:33
Lynoureyvonne_: What's the exact name of the package?12:33
Lynoureyvonne_: but, there are other ways, but of course you can choose your battles which way you want :)12:34
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yvonne_real player12:34
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yvonne_the only reason i wanna install this damn app is so that i can use the pluggin for an internet radio site12:35
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andreaHobbsee: are you here?12:36
andreaHobbsee: do you have any clue for what is happening.. i don't really know what to look for..12:36
yvonne_lynoure: whats the other battle then ; )12:37
Lynoureyvonne_: going to the site, downloading from there and installing manually. Has been easy everytime I have done it. Minus side is that you cannot apt-get to upgrade it12:38
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yvonne_and it's a .bin file right?>12:39
shogohi, anybody can help me? Kmail says "Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed" when i try to load it12:39
Lynoureyvonne_: .sh to start the install. But yes, binary only stuff12:39
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shogoI have tried to reinstall it and give it permission but nothing..12:40
yvonne_i tried that earlier, but it installed it to my home folder and i didnt know what to do with it then12:40
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exceswaterhey people12:40
exceswater!gnome12:40
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.12:40
exceswaterwho can tell me what is this gnome ?12:40
Lynoureyvonne_: Usually don't need to do anything then, at least if you use FireFox12:40
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Lynoureyvonne_: just click on the link :)12:41
shogoanybody can help me with kmail?12:42
exceswatershogo12:42
exceswaterwhat is wrong with kmail12:42
exceswateri am kinda noob but willing to help12:42
exceswateri managed to make my kmail work with my email account12:42
shogoit says: " Communication problem with kmail,  it probably crashed" when i try to load it :/12:42
exceswaterremove it12:42
exceswaterand install again12:42
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shogowell, removing it means te remove kubuntu-desktop too...12:43
exceswateri dunno about that12:43
exceswatersorry12:43
shogo:/12:43
exceswateri got to restart12:43
exceswateri'll return12:43
shogoim afraid i 'd make my system unbootable12:43
shogook12:44
shogoc u12:44
exceswatercu 212:44
exceswaterand good luck12:44
shogothx12:44
waylandbillyou don't need to remove it. It crashed... did you try running it again?12:45
shogoof course12:46
shogoit always says the same12:46
shogoshogo@R-50:~$ kmail12:47
shogoERROR: Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed.12:47
yvonne_lynoure:12:47
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waylandbillhave you ever gotten  kmail to run?12:47
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exceswater.12:47
exceswater:D12:47
exceswaterso...12:48
shogowaylandbill: not in this distribution12:48
yvonne_lynoure: whats the directory i wanna instal real to?12:48
exceswaterwho can help me with repositories12:48
shogoi mean, i have recently installed kubuntu in my laptop, and here i haven't managed it to run12:48
exceswateri wanna install nvidia drivers12:48
shogosorry about my english :)12:48
exceswaterbut i am too noob12:48
shogoexceswater: maybe www.nvidia.com?12:49
exceswaterhehe lol12:49
shogothere should be precompilated modules there12:49
exceswaterif it were that easy12:49
shogonvidia develops drivers for linux12:49
exceswaterdrivers for nvidia are included somehow in adept12:49
shogomaybe some *.deb12:49
exceswaterbut you cannot install them12:49
shogoum, ok sorry12:49
waylandbillexceswater: did you do a search on the ubuntu wiki?12:49
exceswaterbecause they are restricted12:49
exceswater:d12:49
exceswateryes12:49
exceswateri am noob on unix12:49
exceswaterbut not dumb12:49
waylandbillnever said you were12:50
Lynoureyvonne_: I don't know. Will other users be needing it? If not, you can go for the default just fine12:50
exceswaterstill... i don't understand how to use repositories :D12:50
shogowell, the sources list is in /etc/apt/sources.lst12:50
yvonne_sorry for these stupid questions, it's just doing my nut12:50
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exceswateryes12:50
shogothen you edit that file and erase the # simbols to uncomment some repositories12:50
exceswaterit's something about that sources ?12:51
exceswater:d12:51
shogowhat?12:51
shogop   nvidia-glx                      - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver12:51
waylandbillfunny.. many other people install nvidia using the wiki instructions daily12:51
shogoany ideas for my kmail?12:52
waylandbillit's possible it's corrupted. I wouldn't think it's too likely.12:52
exceswaterno12:53
exceswaterit's not that12:53
shogoexceswater: if i were you i will vim /etc/apt/sources.lst, then uncomment all the repositories there, then sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude search nvidia and then sudo aptitude install what u want :)12:53
exceswaterit's about nvidia drivers being restricted from repositories12:53
waylandbillexceswater: I was talking about kmail12:53
exceswateraha12:53
exceswaterno problem12:53
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shogowaylandbill: i have tried to remove it but it means to remove kubuntu-desktop too... and im a but afraid about doing that... dont u think so?12:54
exceswateri am so new to kubuntu that you speak to me in a alien language :d12:54
shogoexceswater: have u understand what i said?12:54
waylandbillshogo: that would not be good..12:54
exceswaternot really12:54
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shogoexceswater: then answer12:55
shogo:)12:55
waylandbillexceswater: what does apt-get install nvidia-glx say?12:55
shogowaylandbill: i have reinstalled but it doesnt work :/12:55
yvonne_this is so dumb12:55
exceswaterit says that12:56
exceswaterE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)12:56
exceswaterE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?12:56
exceswateri am not dumb12:56
yvonne_lol12:56
shogothen, put sudo before the command line12:56
shogo:)12:56
yvonne_i'm not calling anyone dumb12:56
shogosudo is like a fake root12:57
yvonne_the fact that i cant get this real player install to work12:57
jme__exceswater: relax man, nobody thinks you are dumb12:57
exceswater:D12:57
exceswaterand another stupid thing12:58
exceswateruntil now my kopete worked12:58
jme__exceswater: you need 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'12:58
exceswaternow it doesn't connect12:58
Goldenearthe12:58
exceswaterdunno why12:58
shogowhat is the difference between aptitude and apt-get?12:58
andreasuppose nobody has problems with XV using an ati card when playing with xine or mplayer?12:58
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exceswaterit says it's installed12:58
exceswaterbut i think it's a problem about that restriction12:58
shogoexceswater: have u taken a look at the preferences?12:58
exceswateryup12:59
exceswateradded my yahoo acount12:59
shogoi repaired my gaim making it connect by http instead of the other method :)12:59
exceswaterbut it makes a funny thing about connect12:59
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exceswaterjumping logo12:59
exceswaterand doesn't connect12:59
shogo:/12:59
shogoreally funny12:59
shogow8, i'll have a look at mine12:59
exceswateri will try gaim12:59
exceswater:d12:59
shogowell, do u have a router?12:59
Goldenear<andrea>what glxinfo says ?01:00
waylandbillshogo: aptitude has a user interface to show packages... apt-get is pretty much non-interactive.01:00
Tonio_hello01:00
yvonne_does anyone know why when i right click/request install does adept manager say "BREAK (install)"??01:00
shogowaylandbill: thanks mate :)01:00
Goldenear<andrea> xvinfo i mean01:00
shogoexceswater: im sorry, but my kopete works properlu01:01
shogo*properly01:01
exceswater:d01:01
shogonot as my kmail xD01:01
exceswateri try gaim now01:01
shogou can also try amsn, or mercury messenger01:01
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shogoI love mercury messenger, so cute, but it requires JAVA01:01
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waylandbillyvonne_: I think that means there's a conflict with packages.01:01
yvonne_do u know if there is anyway to find out why/solution?01:02
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shogoanybody could recommend me a mail client different than kmail or evolution?01:03
yvonne_THUNDERBIRD01:03
exceswatertell me please how to make a shortcut on my desktop to gaim01:03
exceswateri cannot find gaim in menu01:03
shogoyvonne_: is it easy to use?01:03
yvonne_restart KDE if u have just installed it01:03
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shogoexceswater: just put gaim & in a terminal01:03
shogoor listen yvonne_ too ;)01:03
waylandbillshogo: thunderbird is very easy to use01:03
yvonne_shogo: very easy, and there is some very cool skins01:03
exceswaterlol01:04
exceswaterit's weird01:04
exceswatercannot i make a shortcut ?01:04
shogowell u can01:04
exceswaterhow01:04
shogowith a symbolic link01:04
yvonne_lol.. i cant believe i';ve just waisted the last 2 sodding hours trying to get a radio station working01:04
shogoln -s01:04
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waylandbillyvonne_: watch.. it won't be that good of a station either. ;-)01:04
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yvonne_exceswater: restart KDE, then when it appears under internet, right clickk, add icon to desktop01:05
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waylandbillexceswater: right click the desktop, and "Create New", "Link to Application"01:05
yvonne_waylandbill: this is my moms computer, thus if i cant get it working i'm in the ****!01:05
shogoyvonne_: it isn't available in spanish :(01:06
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lackdianthow can I check if javascript runs on konqueror?01:08
lackdiantI can't open youtube and I have flash01:08
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waylandbillyvonne_: did you try to get the deb package from debian-multimedia.org?01:09
lackdiantHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player. (message in youtube)01:10
lackdiantif I open the same page in firefox I have no problems, this appears me on konqueror01:10
waylandbilllackdiant: I think they require Flash 8, which isn't on Linux. Linux won't until the 8.5 release01:11
exceswaterwhat...01:11
exceswatermy gaim won't connect to my yahoo account01:11
exceswaterwhy ?01:11
lackdiantbut I can open in firefox01:11
waylandbilllackdiant: oh. ok. I was wrong then01:12
lackdiantso I thought I have JavaScript turned off, and I don't know who to check it01:12
lackdiant*how to check it01:12
andredexceswater: it's not the client's fault. the server is having issues lately01:12
waylandbillexceswater: I can't reach yahoo either. prob on their end01:12
andredexceswater: so you can switch back to kopete ;)01:13
exceswater:d01:13
exceswaterlol yup01:13
waylandbillLOL!01:13
exceswaterwho can help me with repositories ?01:13
exceswaterso i can reinstall nvidia drivers01:13
shogoexceswater: what happens?01:13
waylandbillexceswater: what specifically do you need help with? Otherwise, the answer is yes... someone can. :-)01:13
exceswateri dunno how to make those packages not restricted01:14
exceswateri installed kubuntu second time01:14
exceswaterthe same problem01:14
exceswaterfirst time someone helped my with that01:14
exceswaterbut i am very noob01:14
shogommm01:14
shogosudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst01:14
shogotype that01:15
shogodo u know how to use vim?01:15
exceswaterand i wouldn't know how to make same miracle happen again01:15
exceswater:D01:15
waylandbillexceswater: this time when you get the solution, write it down. :-D01:15
exceswaterso...01:15
exceswateri will my friend01:15
exceswaterbe sure i will01:15
exceswateri did  sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst01:15
shogowell01:15
exceswaterand it's an empty file01:15
exceswatersome like that01:15
shogowhat??'01:15
exceswater:d01:15
exceswateryup01:16
exceswaterampty01:16
exceswaterempty01:16
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shogoit makes no sense :/01:16
exceswaterto me neither01:16
exceswater:D01:16
shogothen01:16
shogojust put vi, without sudo01:16
exceswateri remember that last time someone helped me01:16
exceswaterand gave me some text that i added in that text file with kate ?01:16
shogowell, kate is another editor, like vi, vim, gim, nano... etc01:17
shogothat file has to contain some lines like these01:17
waylandbillI've never seen an empty sources.list... at very least the CD is in there01:17
exceswateryes01:17
exceswateri remember01:17
shogo## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network01:17
shogodeb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted01:17
shogodeb-src http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted01:17
exceswaterbut it's empty01:17
shogowaylandbill: so do i...01:18
exceswateri have no line :D01:18
exceswateri have nothing to uncomment01:18
h3sp4wnI find it best to start with an empty sources.list and then add what I want (being able to see the whole file at once helps you make sure you have everything)01:18
shogols /etc/apt01:18
waylandbillh3sp4wn: or at least remove the unneeded comments01:19
shogoi think so01:20
shogoexceswater: then..01:20
shogou should get a sources.lst01:20
exceswateroic01:20
shogomaybe searching at google?01:20
exceswaterk01:20
exceswater10x01:20
shogowell, w8 a moment01:20
shogotype sudo apt-get update at a terminal01:20
exceswateri did it01:21
exceswaterit updates some stuff01:21
shogowhat happens?01:21
exceswaterdone01:21
shogowell, then u got sources :)01:22
exceswaterand now01:22
waylandbillI think too many people are "asking the planet" over at yahoo... their login functionality is blown.01:22
waylandbillexceswater: then that file  wasn'01:22
waylandbillt empty01:22
exceswateroic01:22
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exceswateri'll just leave it like that01:22
exceswateri dunno what to do01:22
exceswaterso i do nothing01:23
exceswater:D01:23
h3sp4wnwaylandbill: definately01:23
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nikhow to find out which process is writing/reading on hdd?01:33
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exceswateranyone here has problems connecting to yahoo01:34
exceswaterwith kopete01:34
exceswater ?01:34
exceswateri cannot make it work01:35
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdmine sais connected , so i guess its working01:36
waylandbillexceswater: told ya earlier... yahoo having problems01:37
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdyup , its is01:37
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdits trying to connect , its not connected01:37
waylandbillalthough, mine just connected..01:37
waylandbillmust be they are just getting it fixed01:38
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exceswateryup01:39
exceswatersame 2 me01:39
waylandbillnik: that would be at the kernel level.01:39
rigonattihi all .....I was usin a aplication (terminal script) that looks for all disks and auto mount all disks (FAT and others partitions) is something like : diskmount ...diskmounter....Anybody knows that ?01:39
waylandbillnik: what is it you're trying to accomplish?01:40
exceswaterwhat i should change in repositories so my drivers for nvidia not be restricted01:41
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nikhatziHello!01:42
nikhatziI need help!01:42
nikhatzii installed01:42
nikhatzikubuntu 6.06 from live cd01:42
nikhatziand i try to install ndiswrapper01:42
rigonattinikhatzi ... pls write your complete question ...01:42
nikwaylandbill: everything is slow because some process reads/writes from hdd (it's loud)...there is actually no desktop performance available..01:43
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nikhatzii try to install ndiswrapper, but even though i installed gcc and binutils, it when i give the tag "sudo make" is says command not found01:43
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rigonattinikhatzi try automak01:44
nikhatzii tried to install build-essential as i saw on the forum, but it says "packages not found"01:44
rigonattiautomake01:44
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nikhatzihow can i use this? i don't know much...01:44
YaH00http://static.flickr.com/64/167011569_837bc20969_b.jpg01:44
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waylandbillnik: I'm assuming an older computer.. all you can do is stop the processes you don't need running.01:46
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdnikhatzi: maybe you need to install the basic compiler package , i dont know what its called but i know i came acress this when reading something01:46
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nikhatzithank you very much for your help, i search google for further details!01:48
rigonattinikhatzi enter the folder then try automake01:48
waylandbillnikhatzi: it's definately build-essential that you want01:48
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Bassettshi all01:48
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdnikhatzi: yeh , the build-essentail thing01:49
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nikhatziwhere can i download the package?01:49
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdnikhatzi: apt-get install build-essential  , i think that should work , but you might need to have the right repos enabled01:50
barryhi all could someone help me with a vpn problem?01:50
nikhatzii tried the tag, but it says "Package not found"01:51
nikhatziwhere can i find repos to add?01:51
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdnikhatzi: build-essentials01:51
h3sp4wnbuild-essential01:51
Bassettshi, i submitted a bug a while ago about when i click "close current session" my pc shutsdown, i got told we needed more info so i added it, but nothing has happened since01:52
nikhatzithe same message...01:52
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h3sp4wnIt is in main you should have to enable anything at all01:52
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waylandbillmaybe an apt-get update will help...01:53
exceswaterhey01:54
exceswaterwho can help me with nvidia drivers01:54
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exceswateri dunno how to change repositories01:54
exceswaterto make nvidia drivers unrestricted01:54
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waylandbillit's probably resitricted for a reason. Get the binary from nvidia01:55
imbrandonwaylandbill,  NO not good way to do it01:56
imbrandonexceswater,01:56
exceswateryup01:56
imbrandondo you have universe and multiverse enabled ?01:56
exceswateri dunno how to change them01:57
imbrandontype " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"01:57
exceswaterit sounds stupid01:57
imbrandonok i'll help you just type that01:57
imbrandonno quotes01:57
exceswater10x01:57
waylandbillexceswater: uncomment then in /etc/apt/sources.llist and don't say it's empty this time. :-D01:57
imbrandonexceswater, got that open?01:57
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exceswateryes01:58
imbrandonok erase everything thing in there and paste the contents of this file in there http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list01:58
imbrandontell me when you have that done01:58
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exceswaterok02:01
exceswaterdone02:01
imbrandonexceswater, now type " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx " without the quotes .....02:01
exceswaterpasted that02:01
imbrandonsave it02:01
exceswaterok02:01
exceswaterdone02:01
exceswatersaved02:01
imbrandonand type what i have up there ^^02:01
imbrandonexceswater, now type " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx " without the quotes .....02:01
imbrandonwhen thats done let me know02:02
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waylandbillimbrandon: yay! you got the sources.list updated for him02:05
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imbrandonheh02:05
exceswaterOK02:06
imbrandonwaylandbill, please dont recomend getting the nividia binarys from the nvidia website to people, especialy new people , it will just break the next time theres a kernel update if installed that way02:06
exceswaterDONE THAT TOO02:06
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imbrandonexceswater, ok now type ...02:06
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waylandbillimbrandon: no prob.02:07
imbrandondpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ( and choose nvida NOT nv that it has by default )02:07
imbrandonerr02:07
imbrandonsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ( and choose nvida NOT nv that it has by default )02:07
imbrandonthe rest of the options can be left at what it defaults to02:07
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imbrandonexceswater, after that tell me, there is just one last thing to do02:08
Bassettsid use KDE if it wasnt so buggy for me, i prefer it =(02:08
imbrandonBassetts, please dont troll, is there a specific prblem you would like help with ?02:08
waylandbillexactly02:09
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exceswaterDONE THAT TOO02:09
waylandbillimbrandon: isn't it true that the driver needs to be reinstalled when the kernel is updated anyway?02:09
Bassettsimbrandon: im not, sorry i was just commenting02:10
exceswatersorry for caps02:10
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Bassettsimbrandon: theres a few things like when i logout it turns off my pc after hanging at the usplash for a while02:10
imbrandonexceswater, ok now " sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade " when thats done , reboot and you'll be in nvidia heaven02:10
imbrandonwaylandbill, not if installed via apt-get02:10
waylandbillimbrandon: ok. I thought it would. learned somethin new02:11
imbrandonBassetts, if you have files a comprehensive bug report it will be fixed, you just cant expect it overnight ( special since most of the core devs are in meetings this week )02:12
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exceswaterimbrandon thanks you very much02:13
Bassettsimbrandon: i filed a bug02:13
imbrandonexceswater, np02:13
rigonattihi all ...does anyone here can help me with automatix ? I got a "keyserver error"02:14
imbrandonBassetts, then thats the best you can do besides write a pacth your self , now just wait for updates02:14
Bassettsit was my first bug report though and i didnt really know how to do it02:14
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exceswater!flashplayer02:14
ubotuI know nothing about flashplayer02:14
exceswater!flash02:14
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats02:14
waylandbillimbrandon: that true for ATI's driver as well?02:14
imbrandonrigonatti, i would recommend to try easyubuntu not automatic02:14
imbrandonwaylandbill, yea02:14
rigonattiimbrando why ?02:14
rigonatti!easyubuntu02:14
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ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:14
Bassettsimbrandon: is there a place where i can monitor fixes that are released?02:15
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slow-motionbbl02:16
imbrandonBassetts, the -changes mailing list02:16
Bassettsok02:16
imbrandonBassetts, http://lists.ubuntu.com02:16
Bassettsill setup another email though so my indox isnt drowned02:16
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jeroanmoany good sites on help to installing 3d video drivers in ubuntu02:18
railk_the kubuntu wiki02:18
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jeroanmothanks02:18
exceswaterone more question02:19
jeroanmoyes?02:19
exceswaterhow can i install flash plugin for konqueror02:19
waylandbillimbrandon: okay... I must've been in dorkdom or something.. of course, since a apt-get update and then upgrade would install both. I guess I'm no longer asleep at the wheel. :-D02:19
jeroanmoo ha02:19
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pcfanHi all, how can I know what commands are executed by a program (not by a script....)?02:20
railkpcfan: debug it or disassemble it...02:21
waylandbillexceswater: after flashplugin-nonfree is installed, configure konq and tell it to scan for new plugins02:22
pcfanand how do I to that ?02:22
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nikhatzihi again! i think solved the problem. None of the repositories was enabled in the list....02:23
nikhatzi:-)02:23
nikhatzii enabled them, and now i update everything!02:23
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nikhatzithank you for your help!02:23
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threat[4295337.376000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host controller process error, something bad happened!02:24
threat[4295337.376000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host system error, PCI problems?02:24
Kejk_PLHi, is CUPS usable now or still doesn't work?02:24
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exceswaterwaylandbill: please tell me how to install flashplugin nonfree02:24
exceswater?02:24
exceswaterand why it's non free ?02:25
waylandbillexceswater: not that you have the repos config'd just do02:25
Kejk_PLbecause is IS non free (as in reedom)02:25
Kejk_PL*/freedom02:25
waylandbillexceswater: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree02:25
railkfree as in speech ;)02:25
exceswaterlo.02:25
exceswaterlol02:25
exceswaterfunny people here...02:26
Kejk_PLexceswater: google: flash ubuntu02:26
waylandbillexceswater: not free, cause of its license02:26
railkexceswater: its called "geek"02:26
exceswaterthis means you have to buy it02:26
exceswater?02:26
railkno02:26
exceswaternot really02:26
threatany ideas?02:26
waylandbillexceswater: no. it's free but it's not02:26
exceswateri am just beginner in kubuntu02:26
exceswater:D02:26
exceswaterwhat is free and what is not to this plugin02:26
Kejk_PLhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox02:27
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waylandbillexceswater: free (no cost to download) but not free (license terms)02:28
railkKejk_PL: he wants it for konquerer i believe..02:28
exceswateryup02:28
exceswateraha02:28
exceswatermy problem is that i live in Romania02:28
railkof course, you could just switch to firefox02:28
exceswater:D err02:28
Kejk_PLrailk: not a problem02:28
exceswaterand i just installed kubuntu02:28
exceswaterso i cannot have problems with cops02:29
exceswater:D02:29
exceswatergot me02:29
exceswaterthey are not so smart... but i don't wanna disobey the law02:29
exceswater :d02:29
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exceswaterso i have free os: kubuntu02:29
exceswaterfree games: warsow and wolfenstein et02:29
exceswateretc02:29
exceswaterfree email app02:29
exceswaterso on02:30
exceswater:d02:30
exceswateri don't wanna have something in my pc that is not free02:30
exceswateri still cry for my collection of mp302:30
exceswaterbut that's life :D02:30
waylandbillfirefox will find the flash... konquer just needs to be told. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats02:30
exceswaterc'est la querre02:30
waylandbillexceswater: I agree. I prefer free and open too.02:30
exceswaterand i wanna know what that non free means02:31
raphinkexceswater: tu peux convertir tes mp3 en ogg02:31
raphinkyou're free to choose to use non free stuff02:32
exceswaterno no no02:32
exceswaterit's illegal to have music02:32
exceswater:D02:32
raphinkhehe02:32
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waylandbillexceswater: I'm looking at the EULA. It's non-free cause you cannot alter and redistribute it.02:32
raphinkhttp://www.musique-libre.org02:32
exceswaterand if i don't alter it02:32
exceswater ? ? ?02:32
exceswaterit's ok to have it ?02:32
waylandbillexceswater: you cannot make derivatives, or develop new technology from it.02:33
exceswaterlol02:33
exceswateri don't even think about that02:33
exceswateri am not clear with kubuntu02:33
waylandbillexceswater: it's legal for you to install and use it in your PC though.02:33
exceswateri won;t start building programs02:33
exceswateraha02:33
exceswater10x02:33
exceswater:D02:33
exceswateri will02:34
exceswaterwe have big problems here with licencies02:34
exceswater:D02:34
exceswaterwhen cops were searching at a shop for piracy...02:34
exceswaterthey were told to confiscate any support for piracy02:34
waylandbillexceswater: It's a proprietary license that doesn't meet free and open licensing (which is why you have to enable a special repo)02:35
exceswaterand they were trying to confiscate a fridge...02:35
exceswaterbecause some pirated cd's were on the fridge02:35
raphinklol02:35
exceswateror they confiscated some CLEANING CD'S02:35
exceswaterbecause they said they are pirated02:35
exceswater:d02:35
raphinkheh02:35
waylandbillexceswater: The distro itself has all free and open software. You could make your own distro modifications and give it to someone else under a new name if you desired.02:36
raphinkdon't download pirated cleaning CDs on the net02:36
exceswater:D02:36
exceswateryup :d02:36
exceswaternice02:36
exceswateri can modify the wallpaper of kubuntu02:36
exceswaterand make exces ubuntu :D02:36
exceswaternice new distro02:36
exceswater:D02:36
exceswaterand sell it :D02:36
waylandbillbut... you can't include flashplayer in it if you did that.02:36
exceswaterok02:37
exceswateri will02:37
exceswaterplease now buy my distro :d02:37
exceswateronly 2 euro02:37
waylandbillnow you understand what is meant by free?02:37
raphinkwaylandbill: you can, if you pay for the distribution of it02:37
exceswaterso i can buy another car02:37
exceswater:D02:37
exceswateryeap02:37
exceswateri just like porsche 91102:37
exceswater:d02:37
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exceswaterooo02:37
exceswateri just remembered02:37
waylandbillraphink: that's true. if you paid royalties.02:37
exceswaterare here WOW players ?02:38
raphinkyep waylandbill02:38
raphinkthat's what mandriva does e.g.02:38
exceswaterand please tell me about libre music02:38
raphinkhttp://www.musique-libre.org is libre music exceswater02:38
exceswaterbut can i download music from there ?02:39
exceswateror just listen online :d02:39
exceswater? ? ?02:39
raphinkthere's also http://jamendo.ratiatum.com/02:39
raphinkboth exceswater02:39
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exceswateri prefer something in english02:39
raphinkheh02:40
waylandbill:)02:40
raphinkthe problem is that if you serach in english02:40
exceswateri know a little bit more english than french02:40
raphinkyou'll find free music02:40
raphinkas in free beer02:40
exceswateryes ?02:40
raphinkbut not libre music02:40
exceswateroic02:40
exceswateri'm not so used to be free :d02:40
raphinkthat's the pb with english02:40
waylandbillI love free beer though.02:40
exceswaterwe had our "revolucion" only 16 years ago :D02:40
raphinkyou're from romania right?02:40
exceswateryup02:41
raphinkok02:41
exceswaterland of dracula02:41
exceswater:D02:41
raphinkhaha02:41
waylandbillhehe02:41
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdromania enforces us copyright laws?/02:41
exceswaternow it;s kinda draculazy land02:41
exceswater:D02:41
exceswaterhehe02:42
exceswaternow amarok won't play mp3's02:42
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exceswateri know about !mp302:43
raphinkexceswater: you have to install libxine-extracodecs for that02:43
exceswaterthat's the second cute thing about installing kubuntu :d02:43
exceswaternow i'm updating things for nvidia02:43
raphinkexceswater: is this your first day on linux?02:43
exceswaterthird02:43
exceswaterfourth02:44
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exceswater:D02:44
raphinkhehe02:44
raphinkI can tell02:44
exceswatersome like that02:44
exceswater:D02:44
raphinkyou seem so excited about it :)02:44
exceswateri can tell too02:44
exceswaterand i am noob02:44
exceswater:D02:44
raphinkhehe02:44
exceswateri like it02:44
exceswater:D02:44
raphinkthat's good :)02:44
waylandbillyou need libmad0 too02:44
exceswateri like the feeling02:44
raphinkwaylandbill: not on dapper02:44
waylandbillok02:44
raphinkit's installed as a dependency now iirc02:44
exceswaterit's like driving a Cadillac on a street full of Trabants02:44
exceswater:D02:44
raphinkexceswater: :)02:44
exceswateraaa02:44
exceswaterwhat cars do you people have ?02:45
raphinkhaha02:45
raphinkI have an opel corsa02:45
raphink1986 model02:45
raphink)02:45
raphink:)02:45
waylandbillgasoline powered. :-)02:45
exceswaterlol02:45
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exceswaterwhat car i mean like: toyota, ford02:46
exceswateretc02:46
exceswater:D02:46
waylandbillKia and Dodge02:46
exceswaterand tell me how to install those codecs please02:46
jeff_opel is like a ford etc02:46
exceswaternice dodge02:46
exceswateryup02:46
exceswateryou all are americans ?02:46
jeff_use adept02:46
raphinkexceswater: I'm french02:46
waylandbillI am02:46
exceswatercorsa :D02:46
exceswaternice02:46
exceswatersporty02:46
exceswater:D02:46
raphinkexceswater: you can either use adept or the command line : `sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs`02:47
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raphinklinuxbambi: lol02:47
waylandbillexceswater: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:47
exceswaterok02:47
exceswater10x02:47
exceswaterhow is america ?02:47
raphinkexceswater: you need to activate multiverse for that, though02:47
linuxbambihi everybody02:47
exceswaterit's a nice place to live ?02:47
exceswateri think i did02:47
raphinkexceswater: did you do that already?02:47
raphinkok02:47
exceswateri hope i did :d02:47
linuxbambijust installed cedega and wanted to install Steam, but the terminal came up with a failure02:48
raphinkhehe02:48
exceswaterfirst days of kubuntu is like seducing a japanese girls02:48
exceswaterfirst days of kubuntu is like seducing a japanese girl02:48
raphinkexceswater: did you edit your /etc/sources.list?02:48
jeff_right now i would rather be in germany02:48
waylandbillraphink: he did earlier02:48
raphinkwaylandbill: ok :)02:48
jeff_for the WC02:48
exceswaterwho speaks only japanese... and you speak english02:48
exceswaterhehe02:48
raphinkI'd like to be in Paris now, for the UDS02:48
exceswateri hate football02:48
exceswater:d02:48
exceswateri like to be in miami02:49
exceswaterfor the sun02:49
raphinkoh there's sun here, too02:49
exceswaterfootball is kinda booring for me02:49
exceswater:d02:49
jeff_no sun in france02:49
exceswaterreally booring02:49
raphinkjeff_: not today, taht's right but usually there is02:49
jeff_hehe02:49
raphinkthis place is famous for the sun, sea and mountains02:49
raphink;)02:49
exceswateri better watch a nice movie02:49
exceswaterheh02:49
exceswateryou guys should come to Romania02:50
exceswater:D02:50
exceswaternice country02:50
raphinkindeed02:50
raphinkI'd like to02:50
exceswaternice girls02:50
exceswateroh02:50
jeff_what is type of goverment now02:50
exceswaterdid i said nice02:50
exceswater?02:50
exceswaterbeautifull02:50
exceswaterlol02:50
exceswaterselfish  government02:50
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exceswaterthey steal for themselves02:51
exceswater:D02:51
jeff_best kind02:51
exceswaterlike in all countryes02:51
exceswater:D02:51
jeff_no gove handouts02:51
jeff_no programs02:51
linuxbambilol stupid spam02:51
exceswaternothing good here02:51
exceswaterthey sell everything... for their profit02:51
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jeff_way it should be02:52
exceswaterwe even have goldmines02:52
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exceswaterthey want to sell them02:52
exceswater:D02:52
exceswaterhehe02:52
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jeff_really02:52
exceswaterscrew them02:52
linuxbambiu should rename to excesflood02:52
exceswaternice...02:52
exceswaterwe had enough floods02:53
exceswater:D02:53
linuxbambithen stop it02:53
exceswaterflood is kinda exceswater02:53
exceswateri am aquarius02:53
exceswaterthat's why :D this nick02:53
exceswater:D02:53
linuxbambiwhatever -  i don't care but stop spamming the channel02:53
exceswateroic02:54
jeff_has anyone used PCLinuxOS02:54
exceswatersorry02:54
exceswaterno more spam... i shut up02:54
exceswaterexcuse me02:54
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jeff_has anyone used PCLinuxOS02:55
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waylandbillexceswater: did you get flashplayer running in Konq?02:55
Hobbsee!enter02:55
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:55
Hobbseejeff_: no02:55
jeff_I recently switched from PCLinux to Kubuntu--so far I like it better02:55
jeff_But adept's interface sucks02:56
exceswaternot yet..  i am updating things for nvidia drivers to work waylandbill... i was making friends ... but some ppl say i flood channel :D02:56
waylandbillwell, there are better channels for that purpose.02:57
phimichi all02:57
jeff_exceswater--once you have the repostories opened I find you can get things worknig fairly easy02:57
jeff_I can't get amorak to play CD's though02:58
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exceswaterit's amarok. ... and it's about mp3 codecs02:59
exceswateri had same problem02:59
exceswatertry :sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:59
jeff_installed02:59
exceswaterand  ? ? ??02:59
jeff_no good02:59
exceswaterit just jumps over the mp3 without really playing it ?02:59
jeff_not sure I was talking about off a cd03:00
waylandbilljeff_: I have the problem of CD's playing to. I lack an analog CD cable to sound card. I just rip the tracks instead.03:00
jeff_I take that back it plays MP3 fine03:00
jeff_that could be it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:00
exceswaterjeff_: ask apologizes to Amarok :D03:00
exceswateryes... could be the cable missing from cd rom to sound card :D03:01
jeff_the cable is on the sound card right?03:01
jeff_I bet that's it03:01
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waylandbilljeff_: I should say that my integrated sound card doesn't have a location for the cable.03:01
jeff_yea03:02
jeff_that stinks03:02
exceswaterit should be a cable from cd rom to sound board03:02
exceswatercome here03:02
exceswateri give u that cable03:02
exceswater:D03:02
jeff_i'll pop right over03:03
exceswateryup mate... dcc yourself 2 romania03:03
exceswater;)03:03
jeff_:)03:03
waylandbilljeff_: doesn't bug me too much, since I just use Konqueror to rip the tracks fairly easily.03:04
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jeff_just rip to mp3?03:05
jeff_havent tried it---i'll give it a go.03:06
burepe1I am taking a hdb1 drive from my old comp with 2 drives to make it the main one in a new kubuntu install. Is the fact that it is "hdb1" going to cause a problem? how do I change it to "hda1"?03:06
waylandbilllately Konq shows you all the formats you can rip too right in the window when viewing the CD.03:06
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jeff_ok03:06
waylandbilljeff_: of course, if you have the backend for your desired format installed.03:07
jeff_loading cd now03:07
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psscanyone here able to update http://kubuntu.org/download.php03:08
jeff_says extract and encode tracks---guess thats it03:08
waylandbillburepe1: you need to install grub (modified) in that drive and you have to change the fstab.03:08
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waylandbilljeff_: I actually stumbled on those new CD features one day. Hadn't known for a long time.03:09
jeff_cool03:10
jeff_got error mesg03:10
jeff_No encoder has been selected.03:10
jeff_Please select an encoder in the configuration.03:10
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phimicmy notebook does not support suspend to mem, so i installed a kernel which supports suspend203:18
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phimichow can i assing the shortcut FN+ESC to the hibernate command03:19
paxmaxooo03:19
paxmaxiatalianiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii03:20
tackatyou can use kmenuedit or assign it somewhere in /etc/.../acpi/... iirc03:20
tackat /etc/acpi/events03:21
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tackatphimic: did that answer your Q?03:23
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jeff_got it working thks03:28
exceswaterhey03:29
exceswaterjeff03:29
exceswaterinstall 3ddesk03:29
exceswateru know it ?03:29
waylandbillis that the one with the animation when you switch desktops?03:31
exceswateryup03:33
exceswatervery nice03:33
waylandbillwas thinking of trying at home. this pc's a slug. didn't know what I'd gain with the eyecandy though.03:34
exceswaterabout flashplayer-nonfree03:34
GullyFoyleis there a deb2targz program like rpm2targz?03:34
exceswaterit says cannot find it03:34
HobbseeGullyFoyle: just grab the source, instead of the deb file...03:35
exceswaterwhat i can do ?03:35
waylandbillflashplugin-nonfree03:35
exceswatergot it03:36
exceswater10x03:36
waylandbillexceswater: don't forget to config konq telling it to scan for new plugins03:36
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exceswaterk03:37
exceswater:D03:37
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exceswaterand one last thing03:38
exceswaterhow can i add some commands to konversation03:38
Hobbseeexceswater: as in, aliases?03:38
exceswaterso i can log in automatically when i start iit03:38
exceswaterno03:38
Hobbseeexceswater: hit f203:38
Hobbseeget the server you want, hit connect at startup03:38
exceswateryes ?03:38
waylandbillin ther server config, enter your nickserv password in the password entry03:39
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exceswateri want to add something like: /nick exceswater and /msg nickserv identify pass03:39
exceswaterok03:39
exceswater10x03:39
exceswater:D03:39
exceswaterrestart03:40
exceswaterfor nvidia and libxine03:40
Hobbseeexceswater: did you find it?03:40
exceswateryup03:40
exceswatersmart noob03:40
exceswater10x03:40
Hobbseenice03:40
exceswaterhehe03:40
exceswaterflash is ok03:40
exceswaterrunning03:40
exceswater10x guys03:40
exceswaterrestart03:40
exceswater:D03:40
waylandbillI find it confusing that the field is just "Password" since servers can accept user passwords03:40
phimicthanks tackat03:41
knubbeis there any way to make eclipse faster? i think its really slow on my laptop.03:42
GullyFoylehow do i get my history in konqueror?03:43
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HobbseeGullyFoyle: hit f9, then hit the history icon03:45
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GullyFoyleHobbsee: ah thanks03:46
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rigonattihi all ....does anyone now how to instal make... makeisntall and etc?03:46
Hobbsee!b-e03:47
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)03:47
rigonatti!make03:47
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exceswaterhey03:48
exceswaterplease tell me where can i bind some keys to 3ddesk03:48
eightiesk!mp303:49
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats03:49
exceswateri don't remember03:49
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exceswater!bind03:49
ubotuI know nothing about bind03:49
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apokryphosexceswater: kcontrol, accessilbity... input actions? Or something03:49
raphink3ddesk eats memory for nothing03:49
apokryphosraphink: nah, it looks cool if you don't have xgl+compiz 8)03:50
GullyFoylei'm using this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188198.html  to try to get 32bit flash working with 64bit konq, but at one point the guy says to open some files with ark to edit them, but the files  are .debs! wtf. ark can't open .debs. any body got an idea?03:50
apokryphosfor a few seconds, anyway03:50
raphinkxgl has the same effects instead it uses your 3D card directly03:50
raphinkI mean + compiz03:50
apokryphosGullyFoyle: it can03:50
exceswaterlife is so booring03:50
raphinkapokryphos: exactly03:50
exceswaterwhy not make it look nice03:50
apokryphosexceswater: you should, but try the proper ways first.03:50
apokryphosexceswater: what card do you have?03:50
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exceswaternvidia03:53
exceswaterwhy03:53
exceswaterdone it03:53
exceswater10x03:53
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exceswaterwhy apokryphos03:53
exceswaterwhat can i do more03:54
exceswatersome themes and things like that ?03:54
apokryphosexceswater: what nvidia?03:54
exceswatergeforce 4mx 44003:54
exceswater64 ram03:54
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exceswaterthis is my work pc03:54
exceswater :d03:54
eightieskhow do i get restricted formats for dapper it doesn't say03:54
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apokryphos!faq03:55
apokryphoseightiesk: check there03:55
exceswater!themes03:55
ubotufaq is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage03:55
ubotuFind your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy03:55
exceswaterapokryphos: what can i do more ?03:55
GullyFoyleark won't open .debs for me it brings up an error msg saying "this utility is not in your PATH"03:55
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GullyFoyleso whatever prog that ark is a frontend for is not in my PATH because ark itself IS in myPATH03:56
eightieskapokryphos: where?03:56
waylandbillGullyFoyle: trying to view the deb or install it?03:56
eightiesk!mp303:57
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats03:57
apokryphosexceswater: hm, looks like you can't get it working there then03:57
apokryphosexceswater: yes, I recommend getting some nice stuff from http://kdelook.org03:57
GullyFoylewaylandbill: i'm trying to edit the .debs to get 32bit flash working in 64bit konq03:57
apokryphoseightiesk: http://kdelook.org, there03:57
exceswateri am03:57
apokryphoseightiesk: also, you can use the bot in /msg :)03:57
exceswaterthanks03:57
apokryphosGullyFoyle: extract it with dpkg03:58
GullyFoylewhat;s the flag to extract it or should i wade thru the mnapage?03:58
apokryphosman dpkg03:58
waylandbillman dpkg | grep extract03:59
apokryphosGullyFoyle: you shouldn't have to wade all the way through; just man, then use / to search :P03:59
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GullyFoylehrm, dpkg-deb -x looks like the one03:59
apokryphosyes03:59
GullyFoyleok here goes03:59
edneymatiasmorning all!04:00
GullyFoylethat's prolly why ark wouldnt open the .deb cuz dpkg needs sudo04:00
GullyFoyleark prolly calls dpkg04:01
waylandbillcould always call with kdesu04:01
apokryphosit needs sudo to extract? Don't think so..04:01
apokryphosdpkg the command itself doesn't need sudo, it only needs it for a few operations04:01
rigonattihi all04:01
apokryphoshi04:01
rigonattihow do i set the Firefox to be the default app to web browser?04:02
exceswaterapokryphos: i found a nice screen saver there04:02
apokryphosrigonatti: from system settings; k menu -> system settings04:02
apokryphosexceswater: which one?04:02
exceswaterbut i just don't know how to instll int04:02
GullyFoylewell ark would not open the .deb that's all i know04:02
exceswaterqstars04:02
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waylandbillGullyFoyle: I'd think you'd only need sudo if you were extracting to a place you normally couldn't04:03
exceswaterit's a tar.gz file04:04
exceswaterit's an archive04:04
apokryphosexceswater: link?04:04
waylandbillexceswater: you got a source archive?04:04
exceswaterhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1006604:04
GullyFoylewaylandbill: ark gave error msg that the utility wasn't in my PATH, even though ark itself (the GUI) was open04:04
exceswaterit's downloading04:04
GullyFoylei gotta go04:04
exceswaternot so big ... i hope it's nice04:04
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rigonattiapkryphos where at settings ?04:05
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exceswaterit's downloading so slow... 1,2 k/s04:05
exceswaterugly04:05
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waylandbillrigonatti: KDE Components04:06
apokryphosrigonatti: is there not something called input actions under accessibility?04:07
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exceswaterapokryphos: got an ideea about how to install it ?04:07
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apokryphosexceswater: does it have a README file?04:08
exceswaterdunno yet04:08
exceswaterjust a sec04:08
exceswaterto complete download04:08
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rigonattiapokryphos: sorry ...i was trying to install SynCE04:16
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rigonattiWhy Synce dont works fine =(04:18
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rigonatti!synce04:19
ubotuI know nothing about synce04:19
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slow-motionre04:20
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bleakedso here's a bizarre kde question: i have setup up 'quick file browswer' kicker buttons to directories i frequent (you click them, they open to directory x -- it's a kicker applet).  recently i had installed the ubuntu-desktop package to try out gnome..after a few days i removed the package (installed via aptitiude, so it should have removed gnome [though it doesn't appear to have grabbed everything, probably deps] ) -- now when i click on 04:22
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rigonattiDoes anyone here sync Kubuntu with PDA ?04:26
exceswaterbye all04:28
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bleakedbye, sir04:29
rigonattidoes anyone know how the isntall the C compiles to use .configure and make ?04:29
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bleakedrigonatti: install the build-essential package04:30
rigonattibleaked: txs04:30
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bleakedno prob04:30
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rigonattiDoes anyone use Synce or know where can i find RAKI (Synce for KDE )?04:31
eightiesk!opera04:31
ubotuAn advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download04:31
bleakedrigonatti: i searched my package repository for 'raki', and i got the synce-kde package.04:32
bleakedidk if that's what you're looking for.04:32
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rigonattibleaked: estrange...i didnt find04:34
motabahai04:34
rigonattibleaked: dis use adept ?04:34
bleakedrigonatti: you might not have the universe repository enabled04:35
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rigonattiim doing this04:35
bleakedi have every repo enabled purely for complete access to software.04:35
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rigonattibleaked: is installed ...strange taht RAki give me a error "Could not start dccm or dccm has exited."04:38
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Raven301When I click on a http link konqueror launches ... I want firefox to launch ... I have change it in the kde components but still doesn't work? Any ideas ??04:40
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stefan_Hello all04:40
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stefan_I just tried to install otrs04:40
stefan_but when I go todomain.tld/otrs/installer.pl04:41
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rigonatti!raki04:41
ubotuI know nothing about raki04:41
stefan_then I get the apache2 server error 50004:41
stefan_there is nothing in apache2 error.log04:41
stefan_can someone help?04:42
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bleakedRaven301: restart the app that you're clicking from, shoudl work every time.04:42
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Raven301ok I'll try that bleaked04:43
bleakedso here's a bizarre kde question: i have setup up 'quick file browswer' kicker buttons to directories i frequent (you click them, they open to directory x -- it's a kicker applet).  recently i had installed gnome to try it out..after a few days i removed it - now, literally since i have removed gnome, when i click on the quick links, regardless of if they're old, or i create new ones, konqueror appears to be loading in the taskbar, but no04:44
geneo93type it in terminal04:45
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railkhas kubuntu got multiple processor support?04:45
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geneo93yes04:45
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Raven301bleaked: Still doesn't work04:47
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robinswHi, guys... Kubuntu's telling me that my max screen size is 1024x768, but I know that its higher... where can I change this?04:55
JavaGeekSystem Settings -> Display04:55
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_ryanHey all, need a little Java assistance.  I've got sun-java5 installed (I believe correctly) but when I do a "java -version" I'm still getting 1.4.2, any suggestions?04:56
apokryphos!faq04:56
ubotufaq is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage04:56
apokryphosrobinsw: check that04:56
robinswJavaGeek, it won't let me put it any higher than what it is.04:56
robinsw1024x768, but it can go up to 1152x86404:56
bleakedRaven301: you changed to to say, /usr/bin/firefox ?04:56
bleakedRaven301: just firefox will not work04:56
Raven301oh ... is it not mozilla-firefox04:57
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robinswHow do I restart the X server?04:57
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bleakedRaven301: no, that's a legacy debian packge.04:57
apokryphosrobinsw: ctrl+alt+backspace04:57
bleakedrobinsw: you can do it from the kdm login screen.. or simply ctrl-alt-backspace (this will kill everythign in X though)04:58
Raven301bleaked: /usr/bin/firefox didn't work either04:58
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robinswBleaked, thanks.04:58
gnomefreakRaven301: firefox-bin is normal  if you installed a versiont hat did not come with the ubuntu version it changes to firefox instead of firefox-bin04:58
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_ryananybody have any tips on my java version issue?04:59
bleakedgnomefreak: good to know..04:59
Raven301ok gnomefreak04:59
gnomefreak_ryan: whats the issue?04:59
gnomefreakand if above applies its now in /opt/ instead of /usr/ if you follow the wiki05:00
railkmy processor supports hyperthreading and i get the following lines in dmesg:05:00
railk[17179569.184000]  Processor #0 15:3 APIC version 2005:00
railk[17179569.184000]  ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02]  lapic_id[0x01]  enabled)05:00
railk[17179569.184000]  Processor #1 15:3 APIC version 2005:00
railk[17179569.184000]  WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.05:00
JavaGeekrobinsw: Administrator mode -> Hardware -> Monitor -> Configure... -> select your monitor make/model/max aspect05:00
robinswCheers, JavaGeek05:00
JavaGeekrobinsw: and it is cleaner if you log off and on the login screen do Menu -> Restart X-Server05:01
_ryangnomefreak: I've got sun-java5 installed (I believe correctly) but I still get "1.4.2" when I do a "java -version"05:01
gnomefreak_ryan: sudo update-alternatives --config java05:01
gnomefreak_ryan: choose the new java05:01
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JavaGeekctrl-alt-backspace kills all the processes05:01
robinswJavaGeek: OK, but where is the Hardware section? Am I looking in System Settings?05:01
_ryancool, I'll give that a shot!  Thank you.05:01
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robinswAh, got it05:02
robinswCheers.05:02
gnomefreak_ryan: update-alternatives is a system wide setting for defaults if you do sudo update-alternatives --all it will let you choose default for everything it knows about05:02
railk... i also get (in dmesg) [17179583.292000]  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods05:03
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RadiantFirecan someone share with my why XF86AudioLower is not in the keysym list when I know very well it is05:03
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n3stormhi everyone05:04
n3stormI have found something strange in Kubuntu Dapper05:05
n3stormWhen printing as a user I can't change printer settings05:05
n3stormlike doble side printing and so05:05
_ryangnomefreak: That is an awesome tip.  I'm going through --all now.  Any idea if I should use the Sun version of rmiregistry?05:05
n3stormam I missing something?05:05
gnomefreak_ryan: the new one i use the new one on all of the java ones05:05
_ryancool, thanks again05:06
gnomefreakanytime05:06
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n3stormshould my user be in the lpadmin group?05:07
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Chozabugnomefreak, thanks! that really is a handy tip :D05:08
gnomefreakChozabu: yw05:09
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RadiantFire:-)05:10
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RadiantFireso nice to see gnomefreak in the kubuntu channel :-)05:10
gnomefreak;)05:10
n3stormI joined the lpadmin group and still cant choose my printer advanced options: resolution, color, dobleside printing05:11
n3stormis anybody having this problem?05:11
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bleakedso here's a bizarre kde question: i have setup up 'quick file browswer' kicker buttons to directories i frequent (you click them, they open to directory x -- it's a kicker applet).  recently i had installed gnome to try it out..after a few days i removed it - now, literally since i have removed gnome, when i click on the quick links, regardless of if they're old, or i create new ones, konqueror appears to be loading in the taskbar, but no05:15
RadiantFirebleaked: when you "removed" gnome did you purge it or just remove?05:16
RadiantFireevery so often gnome and kde don't play well together05:16
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rigonattiDoes anyone can help me with synce ?05:20
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rigonattiDoes anyone can help me with SynCE  ?05:22
Raven301bleaked: gnomefreak thanks for the help ... but didn't work05:23
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rigonatti:(05:25
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gnomefreakok lets start again what are you trying to do Raven301 ?05:26
Raven301eg in thunderbird there is a html link I click on it and konqeror launches ... I'm trying to get firefox to launch as the default05:26
gnomefreakRaven301: ah easy05:27
Raven301ok05:27
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gnomefreakRaven301: sudo update-alternatives --all  (--all because i cant remember if its x-www-browser or not)05:27
gnomefreakRaven301: took me a month to figure that out lol05:27
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Raven301gnomefreak: thanks nice command05:28
gnomefreakRaven301: that should do it and i want to say its sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser but i dont remember if thats the section name or not05:29
Raven301gnomefreak: yes it is x-www-browser05:30
Raven301gnomefreak: big thanks05:30
gnomefreakyw05:30
h3sp4wnRaven301: I fixed that by adding user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/opt/firefox/firefox"); to prefs.js05:31
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Raven301h3sp4wn: thanks too05:31
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psscanyone here able to update http://kubuntu.org/download.php05:34
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Hobbseepssc: yeah, where's the problem?05:36
HobbseeRiddell: can edit that05:36
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psscHobbsee: Riddell: link for UK DVD's should be  http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06/release/05:37
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geneo93use the text installer for best resualts05:38
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Hhhhhhello, how do I add a printer?05:43
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n3stormHhhhh: go to "system preferences" at the K menu05:43
Hhhhhheh, I should have thought of that :) thanks05:44
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdany linux gurus in here?  , i did apt-get autoclean and it removed some libs tha amarok 1.4.0 was using , i want to reinstall them but no sure how05:45
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geneo93i doubt if that removed any libs05:46
Chozabumark amarok for reinstall?05:46
Chozabusorry, i dont know, but it may work05:46
geneo93it just clears cache after install05:46
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robinswHowdy, gang05:48
robinswHow can I directly edit the X configuration file?05:49
dr_willisvi /etc/xorg.conf05:49
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dr_willisand have a blast05:49
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdmaybe it didnt removed libs but it removed something because some scripts no longer work in amark05:49
dr_willisas root of course. :P05:50
robinswlol05:50
dr_willisbackup your existing xorg.conf first05:50
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robinswCan't get it to have 1152x768 75hz as a screen mode.05:50
robinswKeep entering those values, but its giving nothing.05:50
robinswThere's lots of other xorg.confs with different numbers.05:50
_manuelecho "hello" > /dev/world05:50
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dr_willisive often used that x modeline generator web site05:50
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: did you do dpkg-reconfigure?05:50
DarkRavenMixagewhat does the kubuntu dvd contain????05:50
dr_willisit helped me set up my laptop/widescreen05:51
robinswErm...05:51
robinswNo?05:51
robinswN0ctuRnal, what do I type/05:51
robinsw?05:51
_manuelchmod 777 /dev/world05:51
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: do , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:51
rigonattidoes anyone here use SynCE or RAKi to sync Pocket PCs with Linux ?05:51
enterprisetest05:51
_manuelchown people.people /dev/planet05:51
robinswn0ctuRnal-fieNd, thanks!05:52
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: then configure it05:52
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: make sure you select the right driver etc05:52
chavochown: `people.people': invalid user05:52
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: what video card /driver you use05:52
cox377Hey All05:53
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhey05:53
robinswn0c: GeForce 4 MX05:53
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DarkRavenMixagewhat does the kubuntu dvd contain????05:54
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: if you installed the nvidia sriver you gonna have 2 different options to select fro9m the driver , the stock driver is nv , the one you should use is NVIDIA05:54
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdrobinsw: hit tab to autocomplete nicknames you want to speak to05:55
geneo93main and restricted05:55
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elvstonehello. does kubuntu come preinstalled with any firewall? e.g. does it block any ports by default? i'm trying to get the collaborative editor Gobby working behind a firewall, my router allows the traffic but my kubuntu machine seems to block it (TCP on port 6522).05:56
elvstonei'm not really Linux-literate, long time since i used it ;)05:57
kuzmasterhello all05:57
elvstoneso question; if kubuntu really blocks all ports by default, how can i just open up TCP 6522?05:57
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h3sp4wnI take it you are testing the forwarding from outside the network ?05:58
h3sp4wnKubuntu doesn't block any ports by default05:58
elvstoneyes, it's from another connection.05:58
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdthe default install doesnt have a firewall05:59
elvstonehm. okay. guess i need to look further at my firewall config then.. hrm.05:59
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdif its blocked then possibly by your router  , or the isp maybe?05:59
elvstonewould be surprised if ISP blocks it, maybe i just kludged with the fw rules..05:59
Riddellpssc: try now06:00
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhich firewall did you install?06:00
elvstonei just googled and found this article; http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/03/09/tuning-kubuntu.html, which says; "There is no option during installation to configure a firewall, and Kubuntu includes no graphical firewall configurators. Kubuntu installs with no open ports, so strictly speaking it doesn't need one.".. which lead me to believe it's the kubuntu machine blocking.06:01
elvstonethe fw is an old obsd machine i have here at work.06:01
bleakedRadiantFire: sorry, the phone called... i had installed ubuntu-desktop via aptitude, then removed it the same way..06:01
dr_willisno open ports - because no services are using them?06:01
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dr_willisim thinking  that info is lacking..06:01
dr_willisand their logic is faulty06:02
elvstonedr_willis: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6522            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN06:02
elvstonedr_willis: yea i think so too.06:02
dr_willisgo to one of those port scanner web sites and sees06:02
dr_willisi used ktorrent and other things with out twiddling with any firewall06:02
psscRiddell: thanks that's looking good now06:02
Riddellpssc: are you the guy who e-mailed me about it a while ago?06:03
elvstoneyea. and i installed sshd and it runs fine without me having to open any port, so that's probably not it.. hrm.06:03
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elvstonemy friend who i'm trying out this collaborative editor with nmapped me from outside and said the port was filtered.06:04
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a way  to find out who made a certain driver or who maintains it?06:04
elvstoneah. just telneted from a machine inside the NAT and the port is open.06:04
elvstoneso nevermind, problem is somewhere else.06:05
elvstonethx anyway.06:05
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psscRiddell: yeah that's me ;-)06:05
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aeon17xhow do I set kdm as my default login manager?06:08
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dr_willisdpkg-reconfigure kdm (i think)06:09
slow-motion!easysource06:10
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:10
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KuLoverAnyone here use Karamba? or SuperKaramba?06:14
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwaz iz karamba?06:16
geneo93its like confabulator06:16
KuLoverAnyone use it? lol06:17
geneo93i dont06:18
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erik__how do I get kubuntu to play videos from web pages! I've installed all video codecs and plugins with easyubuntu and still it won't play06:22
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdprabably need a flash player06:22
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leirai want to change my Debian box to kubuntu, but i have LVMs on my disc, it seems the kubuntu Desktop CD cannot handle LVM?06:23
xDigitalStealthxhas anyone tried to install xgl on kubuntu?06:23
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bleakedalright, sorry if you've seen this question already, but it's driving me insane: i have setup 'quick file browser' kicker applets for directories i frequent.  recently, i installed the ubuntu-desktop package to try gnome out.  a week or so later, i removed the meta package, which removed what seemed to be most of gnome (aptitude :D).  now, none of these buttons work.  nor does opening mounted cds/flash drives via kio-slave dialog boxes.  06:24
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdxDigitalStealthx: i tried06:24
bleakedxDigitalStealthx: yes, i think many people have.  if i'm not mistaken, it's #ubuntu-xgl06:24
xDigitalStealthxnocturnal: how did it turn out?06:25
bleakedand there are some nice fourm posts on ubuntuforums.com06:25
leirai want to change my Debian box to kubuntu, but i have LVMs on my disc, it seems the kubuntu Desktop CD cannot handle LVM?06:25
xDigitalStealthxthanx06:25
bleakedleira: what do you mean by 'cannot handle'?06:25
leirai saw: "The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu. It provides for the following situations: LVM and/or RAID partitioning;"06:26
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leiraso it seems i need alternate CD to install on LVM06:26
jorugar1Hola buenas tardes06:26
jorugar1sorry06:26
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdxDigitalStealthx: its bad if you use ati card06:26
xDigitalStealthxnvidia all the way06:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdxDigitalStealthx: it should work well with nvidia06:27
xDigitalStealthxany freezing or blotchiness to the desktop?06:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdxDigitalStealthx: actually it was all nice and cool on ati , but it crashed all the time06:28
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jorugar1anything knows the spanish room of kubuntu?06:28
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geneo93#kubuntu-es06:28
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xDigitalStealthxnocturnal: i see.....thanx for the input06:28
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jorugar1thanks geneo9306:29
geneo93yw06:29
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kuzmasterhello all06:30
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geneo93getting any kuz latley06:31
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cox377how do people go about streaming media using linux, because it always tries to download it before it plays it06:38
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WebuBy the way about streaming media, does anyone know good video stream server?06:40
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WebuSo i could stream a camera to internet06:40
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bleakedcox377: generally, one needs to have various browswer plug-ins installed.06:42
bleakedcox377: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  helps get many things up and running, including streaming support.06:42
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finijemand deutsch hier, und kann mir sagen ob es einen deutschen Kubuntu-Channel gibt?06:44
lithrian@fini mach mal /list06:44
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lithrianja der heit so06:45
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andrew_what's going on fellas06:47
psb154is there a german kubuntu channel for fini?06:47
finiyes! i found it! :)06:47
psb154:-)06:48
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a kubuntu channel in canadian?  muahahahhahah06:56
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geneo93#kubuntu-fr06:57
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geneo93most canadians speak english06:58
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdlol , yeah ,06:58
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdanyone here uses x800 card or higher?06:59
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwith xgl?06:59
DarkStonehi06:59
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhi06:59
DarkStonei want to sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf06:59
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DarkStonebut no such command as chattr?06:59
DarkStonei need to lock this file so that my dns values do not change every ten minutes07:00
mikearthurcan anyone tell me how to remove the tab bar in kopete?07:00
DarkStone:|07:00
DarkStonedoes the command chattr exist?07:00
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geneo93try chat plus tab07:01
DarkStoneproblem solved07:01
DarkStoneits ok07:01
DarkStonei typed the file wrong :|07:01
DarkStonenow to regain power over my wifi card muhahah >:)07:02
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdok , good07:02
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complexityanyone know how to make aterm fonts alot bigger?07:03
complexityi have .xdefaults07:03
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdyou can set the font sizes in kcontrol i think07:04
jorikanyone else tried opera 9 yet ? is it just me or does it make some pages (slashdot, wikipedia, ...) render looking completely cramped ?07:04
cossidhonHello, my tools menu in konqueror is completely empty. Any ideas?07:04
DarkStoneok07:04
DarkStoneam i disconnected?07:04
complexityhow when i removed kcontrol07:04
jorikim going back to opera 8 anyways07:04
complexityi want to set aterm font size ??...07:05
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcomplexity: appearance/fonts07:05
DarkStoneam i lagging?07:05
DarkStonesomeone ping me07:05
DarkStonemy wifi is messing up07:05
DarkStone:S07:05
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdping darkstone07:05
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhaha , its not pinging07:05
DarkStone./ping darkstone07:05
DarkStoneremove .07:05
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DarkStonebah ill ping myself07:06
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DarkStone:\07:06
DarkStoneok07:06
complexityyou ping is fine07:06
DarkStonethanks for checkin07:06
DarkStoneok07:06
cossidhon./ping darkstone07:06
DarkStoneone more problem...07:06
DarkStonenow that i have set my dns07:06
DarkStonei cannot access my router07:06
DarkStone:|07:06
DarkStonebecause my isp's dns is higher priority than my router's dns07:07
DarkStonehow do i enable usage of both?07:07
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cossidhonMy tools-menu in konqueror is empty...07:08
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:08
complexitywtf i dont have kcontrol07:08
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcomplexity: u said u removed it07:09
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcomplexity: if u removed it then u dont have it07:09
complexityyes i dont have kdonctorl07:09
complexityi dont want it07:09
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complexityi just want to change fonts in aterm07:09
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:09
complexitymake it big07:09
complexityi cant see it good'07:09
_ryanI'm having some trouble with the kaffeine-mozilla plug-in.  I've got it installed and it shows up in firefox "about:plugins" but when I try to open a video I get "file could not be opened because the associated helper application does not exist."  Any suggestions?07:09
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:09
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhy why07:10
cox377bleaked: sorry i meant over shared drives07:10
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:10
complexitywtf07:10
complexity..07:10
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Wikipedia-Gastwhy?07:13
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slow-motionbye07:14
aeon17xHow do I enable smooth scrolling in konqueror?07:14
tsdgeosshift arrow up/down07:14
tsdgeosis that what you mean?07:14
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aeon17xI mean, with the mouse07:17
aeon17xwhile using the scroll wheel07:17
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:17
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tsdgeosaeon17x: ah, iirc you need a code patch for that07:17
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aeon17xI see07:18
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Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:20
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwiki, why did ur mama drop u as a child?07:22
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhy?07:23
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhy07:23
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Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:24
Wikipedia-Gastlife is a cookie07:24
BlankBPlease take off-topic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic07:24
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aeon17xzee!07:25
Wikipedia-Gastwhy07:25
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jvzhey guys, has anyone seen mez lately?07:26
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pi1lhello, my system hangs up periodicaly when using nvidia driver.. does anybody know how to fix it?07:26
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gnomefreakmaybe 2 days ago07:26
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naliothjvz: his emails go unreturned, and he's not been seen in a few months07:26
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naliothgnomefreak: you saw mez (was he identified as mez?)07:27
jvzmmkay...07:27
gnomefreaknalioth: he was seen in -ops dancing07:27
gnomefreaknalioth: i didnt know if he was ided or not07:27
gnomefreakid'ed07:27
jvzif he's the only admin of the en-gb translator team, I don't see how anyone else can get approved to translate on launchpad...07:27
naliothjvz: i apologize, he was logged in yesterday07:27
Dragoonzwill the kubuntu desktp run under ltsp07:27
jvzah07:27
naliothjvz: i suggest you use /memoserv to get with him07:28
jvz/memoserv07:28
naliothi am in the same boat as you, jvz07:28
naliothjvz: /msg memoserv help07:28
jvzdur, the bot?07:28
jvzoh, right07:28
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jvznever use that bot07:28
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gnomefreakjvz: i think its /memoserv list  that will show you a list of messages that you got while not logged on iirc07:29
jvzhmm, I'm usually logged on...07:29
gnomefreakjvz: i think to send its /memoserv <nick> message07:29
jvzand I think memoserv is like, too busy to help me :(07:29
jvzI propose that Kubuntu moves to OFTC.net like Debian did07:30
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jvzanyone here know much about avc's like Ogg, Matroska, or AVI?07:31
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geneo93jvz mplayer plays them07:32
jvza likely story; have you tried out 1.0try8?07:33
jvzer, 1.0pre807:33
cox377does anyone know why when ever you open a media file on a networkj drive kubuntu tries to download it before it plays it, is it possible to stream straight away?07:33
jvzwhat kind of network drive?07:34
jvzlike, smb? or nfs?07:34
jvzbecause if you have it mounted somewhere (e.g. you mount a shared drive to /media/somedrive), it won't need to download it07:34
jvzit'd just stream directly via the file system07:35
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cox377jvz: how do u go about mounting the drive?07:36
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WebuIs there some kind of partiotioning software on Kubuntu?07:40
seashell11qtparted07:40
seashell11or gparted07:40
WebuI just need to partition my newly added 200gb disk07:40
seashell11sudo apt-get install qtparted07:40
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seashell11then sudo qtparted07:41
WebuOokey, with it i can make my new disk appear?07:41
seashell11it should have your disk listed, and it will apear after you partition it and mount it07:41
apokryphos!partition07:41
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks07:42
jeroquestion: how do i enable grub if i installed ubuntu and now i have to install win xp?07:42
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apokryphosgah, not that07:42
apokryphosoh actually, it mentions qtparted, yeah.07:42
cox377has anyone here used logmein??07:42
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Webu!stream07:43
ubotuI know nothing about stream07:43
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Webu!video07:43
ubotuI know nothing about video07:43
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WebuDoes anyone know a good video streaming software?07:43
jeroquestion: how do i enable grub if i installed ubuntu and now i have to install win xp?07:43
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Bazzijero: with a live cd after installing winxp07:44
jerook so is there a command i must enter with the ubuntu livecd?07:44
jeroto jsut install grub07:44
jerobecause i did not see the option on the gui07:44
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Bazzithe command is like "sudo grub-install hda1", but I don't know it by heart07:44
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cox377!logmein07:44
ubotuI know nothing about logmein07:44
jerothank you07:44
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gnomefreakBazzi: isnt it /dev/hda1?07:45
Bazzias I said, I don't know it by heart so it may as well be /dev/hda107:45
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WebuQtparted owns your ass, thanks!07:46
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jerothanks guys07:46
Bazzigparted is better maintained though, Webu :P07:46
jvzokay, I have an idea for an extension to the BitTorrent protocol, let me know what you think07:46
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vandalhey everyone, does anyone know why on kubuntu server i always get "out memory error" from putty or my screen will just freeze up and i will have to reconnect?07:46
jvztorrents would have the ability to add other protocols as mirrors for uploading (e.g. ftp, http, rsync)07:46
jvzthat way, you could add fast ftp servers and whatnot to torrents to encourage the exclusive usage of torrents07:47
jvzis that viable?07:47
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Bazzijvz: it's a somewhat nice idea, but it hasn't quite succeeded yet07:48
jvzBazzi: has someone tried it yet?07:48
Bazziwell the idea of course is floating around for a while07:48
h3sp4wnI don't think that is a good idea - any decent sized isp will have popular images in its webcaches anyway (so you won't get the file from the actual ftp server anyway)07:48
Bazzibut I guess nobody has figured out a sane way to implement it07:48
Bazzior needed it that much so far07:49
jvzI guess it also depends on the limitations of http and ftp (e.g. whether or not you can download arbitrary chunks)07:49
Bazzimost well-configured webservers do allow that07:50
Bazzibut then again you cannot quite control the userlimit/bw in a sane way07:50
jvzthat's what I was thinking07:50
Bazzia torrent could be as bad as a DDoS for a http server07:50
jvzcould treat an ftp server as a super-seed07:50
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vandalanyone? no one else has had any odd ssh timeouts with kubuntu? it only happens on this box07:51
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osirisssh'ed into kubuntu for 3 days straight.  no timeouts here07:52
vandalhrmm...07:52
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vandalmine just freezes sometimes or putty will get some garbled packet or out of memory error07:53
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elijahbluehi all..im new here:)07:53
osirisvandal, havent tried with the putty client07:53
vandalahh07:53
vandali have other boxes (redhat ones etc..) that never do it07:54
osirissshed from mandriva to kubuntu07:54
vandalwondering if it's just a config problem or something07:54
osirismight be a putty issue07:54
vandalpossible as well, but never had the issue on any other box, rh, bsd etc..07:54
vandaljust this kubuntu one :(07:54
WebuWhy qtparted says 9.44gb used in my new 200gb driver?07:55
WebuJust made it ext3 and formatted it07:55
elijahblueim a newbie here...i wanted to know....is the kubuntu GUI installer nice & safe?07:55
Webuelijahblue, i think it really is07:56
Webuelijahblue, just used it07:56
elijahblueWebu: ok glad to know dat:) i asked coz im afraid of doing anything to my brother's win partition..07:56
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WebuWorked greatly for me07:57
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WebuThough installed to an empty disk07:57
_ryananyone have a clue as to why kaffeine keeps locking up for a while and then coming back while I'm streaming a trailer?  I've tried increasing the videobuffer to 2000.07:58
WebuBut i'm almost sure it can use free space from another pertition07:58
mossmanHello all.  Has anyone had any problems with cedega and Kubuntu?07:58
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osiriselijahblue, went fairly well for me, other than issues with my sata drive07:59
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WebuHey, after formatting and activating my new 200gb disk, do i need to mount it or something?08:02
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[Nirvana] Webu: most likely08:05
WebuAny ideas how?08:05
[Nirvana] do you know what hd# it is?08:05
elijahbluei  REALLY wanna know....how fast is kubuntu daper?08:06
WebuYes08:06
[Nirvana] is it empty? or is it partition08:06
WebuA new empty disk08:06
WebuI partiotioned it with qtparted08:07
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WebuTo one big partition08:07
[Nirvana] elijahblue: Boot: FAAAST, normal: mildly faster08:07
h3sp4wnelijahblue: Compared to what ? I think it is quite slow08:07
WebuThen activated08:07
[Nirvana] Webu: so it's formatted to ext3?08:07
WebuYep08:07
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WebuOne weird thing, why does qtparted say there's 9.44gb used in that disc?08:07
[Nirvana] and you know what hd# it is? You can type cat /proc/partitions to find out08:07
WebuEven i just formatted it08:07
WebuYes, hda, hdb etc, then partitions hdb1 for example08:08
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WebuOOO!08:08
WebuI booted my computer08:08
[Nirvana] OK,08:08
WebuDisk appeared automatically08:08
WebuTo system:/media08:09
elijahblueis ubuntu faster or kubuntu? ;)08:09
WebuBut its not mounted08:09
[Nirvana] 10GB is used because when you formatted the disk, 5% of the disk is dedicated to root08:09
[Nirvana] elijahblue: it shouldn't make a difference08:09
WebuOkey, got it and found it08:10
WebuUse qtparted, format, activate08:10
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WebuReboot, open konqueror, select mount08:10
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WebuHmm08:10
WebuDidn't work..08:10
[Nirvana] Webu: so create a directory in which you'd like to mount it, then pop open /etc/fstab as root user and fill in a new line08:10
Webumount: /dev/hdb1 not found in file /etc/fstab08:10
WebuYeps08:11
WebuBy the way08:11
WebuWhy does old disk appear 196gb, and new 200gb08:11
WebuEven they are both 200gb and same model08:11
WebuSeagates08:11
geneo93because of format08:12
WebuIs it because of swap in first disc?08:12
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Webu[Nirvana] , should you always activate the only one partition in a new disk?08:13
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WebuIs it possible to connect Kubuntu to a Win XP computer?08:17
WebuAnd make a home network between them08:17
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[Nirvana] Webu: you can activate as many partitions as you want, and for a home network between XP and Kubuntu, you want Samba08:18
WebuSamba hmm08:18
WebuOkey i get it08:18
WebuJust making a linux server08:18
WebuI'm full of windows08:18
[Nirvana] howto: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server08:18
WebuNeed to try something better08:18
WebuGreat08:18
WebuI'm well experienced in windows, but linux is totally different feeling08:18
WebuSo first time, don't know how to use this well ;-D08:19
Webu[Nirvana] , does samba do the job if i want to get XP computer to internet through my Kubuntu server?08:19
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[Nirvana] Webu: no08:20
WebuAny ideas what would do it?08:20
[Nirvana] Webu: to do that, your going to need two eth ports on the Kubuntu box and a crossover cable08:20
WebuI've got many network cards and they appear in network tools08:21
[Nirvana] and then a packet/NAT routing program or something, maybe try GuideDog?08:21
[Nirvana] and as for a crossover cable?08:21
WebuAnd of course got cables to connect pc's08:21
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WebuI've used same system a long time with XP machines08:22
[Nirvana] Webu: then find a packet/NAT routing program or something, maybe try GuideDog?08:22
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WebuNow i'm switching server to Linux and need to get same system to work08:22
n0ctuRnaL-fieNddoes anyone know how to turn off the amazon link from the album covers in amarok?08:22
WebuOkey, i will try it soon08:22
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[Nirvana] I don't know how to do it in Linux (on Windows, it's called ICS I think) but I do know that you should search apt: sudo apt-cache search <keyword> and then to further refine searches, add |grep <refinedkeyword>, so in all it would be sudo apt-cache search forward |grep packet  where forward=keyword and packet=refined keyword08:24
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd[Nirvana] : wth did u just call my mama?08:25
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elijahblueone question: does firefox open faster in ubuntu or kubuntu?08:26
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdelijahblue: i think it depends on ur system performance08:26
elijahbluestill in general??08:26
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WebuOokey08:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdit only takes a second to open on my kubuntu machine08:27
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdbut i got a fast pc08:27
[Nirvana] n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no...I don't think I did08:27
Webu[Nirvana] , so you can create a directory to mount my another driver anywhere in system?08:27
[Nirvana] yes08:28
WebuLinux is little differet08:28
[Nirvana] in windows, you have My Computer, which houses all the drives, C, D ,E etc08:28
WebuYes08:28
[Nirvana] in Linux, you have / and every drive/folder/directory gets mounted under it08:28
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd[Nirvana] : yeah i know . i had no clue what u were talking about ... so   ...08:28
WebuOh yeah08:29
elijahbluei see08:29
[Nirvana] so if I mount my windows drive in linux, I can mount it to wherever I chose, so I mounted to /media/windows, in Windows, when you mount a drive, it gets assigned a letter08:29
[Nirvana] n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I was responding to: [14:25]  <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : wth did u just call my mama?08:29
WebuDamn, konqueror won't allow me to create directory /files08:29
[Nirvana] also in linux, you may not be able to create a directory just anywhere08:30
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd[Nirvana] : i know , dont worry about it , its a joke08:30
WebuShould i put the mount directory to some kind of recommended directory?08:30
[Nirvana] because all the average user owns is anything under their /home/username/ directory08:30
[Nirvana] but, you can create a directory in the command line (or by using the command kdesu konqueror and using konqy in root mode)08:31
[Nirvana] in the CLI: mkdir /path/to/dir/you/wanna/make08:31
WebuOoh okey, so then i could put files directory to /08:31
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WebuArgh, i could create files-directory*08:32
[Nirvana] in the konqueror as root user methood: press alt F2 and type --> kdesu konqueror08:32
[Nirvana] your probably better off using the konqueror methood until you get used to CLI08:32
WebuYes.08:33
WebuI don't feel comfy in CLI after using windows for ages08:33
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a way to find out who made or maintains a driver???08:33
WebuI just cant remember all the commands and all feels so oldish08:33
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BanskuZCLI?08:33
WebuCommand Line Interface i think08:33
lowtechusually mount points are created in /mnt/08:33
[Nirvana] n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: yes, in adept look for the maintainer field of the pkg08:34
WebuSo is it recommended to use /mnt/ or /media or something?08:34
WebuMy /mnt/ directory is emptty08:34
WebuEmpty08:34
BanskuZAdept 8(08:34
[Nirvana] it doesn't really matter08:34
WebuJust thought where my first hard disk is mounted08:34
lowtechoh, yeah. probably /media/ in kubuntu08:34
WebuWhere Linux is08:34
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd[Nirvana] : ok , ty08:35
[Nirvana] Webu: I think in Kubuntu /media is used08:35
eXCeSSyeah it is08:35
WebuOk08:35
lowtechusing /media/ is just a way to standardize08:35
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd[Nirvana] : but how can i find out which pkg my soundcard is using?08:35
WebuTheres cdrom and cdrom0 in my media08:35
eXCeSS . . .   /media/sdb1 is where my hd1 is08:35
Webucdrom is a shortcut to somewhere08:35
WebuI cant see my hard drives here08:35
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WebuOr, my first hard drive is the Linux driver where the / is located08:36
lowtechif they are listed, /etc/fstab will show where they are mounted08:36
WebuSo maybe that's why it's not in /media/ because its the /08:36
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WebuI think i'll mount my another driver to /media/08:37
[Nirvana] yeah, the drive mounted as / does not show up in /media08:37
Webu[Nirvana] , first time i knew something right just by myself :-)08:37
darkradwhen i type "dmesg", from which file the text is shown?08:37
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WebuWhere's my FLOPPY driver :-O?08:38
[Nirvana] but it does show in in media:/ in konqueror08:38
darkrad!dmesg08:38
ubotuI know nothing about dmesg08:38
darkradwhen i type "dmesg", from which file the text is shown?08:38
darkradis taken i mean08:38
v3ctormedia:/ in konqueror would be for removable media08:38
[Nirvana] darkrad: I think all the logfiles in /var/log08:39
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[Nirvana] v3ctor: Or as a "My Computer", but yeah, the original intention was removable stuff08:39
v3ctordarkrad: /var/log/dmesg08:40
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WebuSo i created a directory and now i edit mounts08:41
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Webu[Nirvana] , how to mount my floppy?08:42
oputresHi! How do I check out if I have ndiswrapper installed and if not, how do I install it?08:42
WebuIt doesn't seem to be here08:42
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DarkStonewoot08:43
DarkStoneeverything is up and runnig08:43
DarkStonerunning*08:43
DarkStone:)08:43
DarkStoneone last thing08:43
DarkStonehow do install java plugin for firefox08:43
DarkStone:S08:43
v3ctor!java08:44
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:44
DarkStonety08:44
WebuWhat are recommended mounting options for a regular 200gb ide disk?08:44
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elijahbluewhy does firefox so slower than opera or konqueror?08:44
[Nirvana] firefox = gtk08:45
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[Nirvana] DarkStone: you could use easyubuntu to install it08:45
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h3sp4wnfirefox is pretty fast if you just the mozilla.org one08:45
[Nirvana] yeah08:45
[Nirvana] because ours had Ubuntu patches and stuff which degrade performance08:45
DarkStoneeasyubuntu?08:46
[Nirvana] !easyubuntu08:46
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:46
[Nirvana] easyubuntu.freecontrib.org08:46
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[Nirvana] or the MANual way: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:46
mahmoudhi08:46
[Nirvana] hello08:46
WebuHey people what names do i use mounting floppy disk?08:46
mahmoudcan anyone help me setting up wpa on kubuntu 6.06?08:47
[Nirvana] floppy?08:47
WebuIs it like fd0?08:47
[Nirvana] that's the device name, what do you need this name for?08:47
WebuTo mount it, /dev/fd008:47
WebuIt's not mounted yet08:47
[Nirvana] ok08:48
[Nirvana] so first08:48
WebuWhat type is floppy?08:48
Webudefaults?08:48
[Nirvana] hmm, lemme check08:48
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WebuAnd options08:48
WebuI'm not sure what to put08:48
elijahblueshould i compile firefox from source? :(08:49
mahmoudno one?08:49
oputresPlease, how do I check if I got ndiswrapper installet and if not, how do I install it? I'm such a newbie at Kubuntu/linux08:49
h3sp4wnelijahblue: Just get the binaries from mozilla.org and put it in /opt/firefox08:49
eXCeSSoputres: try to apt get it and see if it says its already installed08:49
elijahbluei see08:50
mahmoudno one ever tried to set up wpa?08:50
[Nirvana] !ndiswrapper08:50
ubotuDocumentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs08:50
[Nirvana] mahmoud: check the wiki08:50
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[Nirvana] !wpa08:50
ubotuDocumentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs08:50
mahmoudbut this is for ubuntu08:51
Webu!floppy08:51
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone08:51
WebuAAA!08:51
[Nirvana] lol08:51
oputresWhat does "!ndiswrapper" do? Do I just type it in the Terminal?08:51
eXCeSSguys as a quick question, is there anything to look for in lappys to be sure theyre linux friendly or does linux support everything becuase its awesome like that08:51
WebuThat's the key word08:51
[Nirvana] oputres: follow the link08:51
wordthe key?08:51
word:P08:51
[Nirvana] he means keyword word... (redundant...)08:52
wordI know :P08:52
mahmoud@nirvana, These instructions are targeted toward Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy). For Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper) see [WWW]  http://wiki.debian.org/WPA, section debian etch (testing/unstable).08:52
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mahmoudas far as I understand it is not for kubuntu08:52
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_ryananyone have tips for getting kaffeine to stream quicktime better?  The application locks up ever 20 or 30 seconds.08:52
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[Nirvana] mahmoud: try anyway? Ubuntu = Kubuntu in the heart anyways08:52
Webu!harddisk08:52
ubotuI know nothing about harddisk08:52
eXCeSS_ryan: try a different program08:52
Webu!disk08:52
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks08:53
Webu!mount08:53
[Nirvana] oputres: read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2908:53
Webu!mount08:53
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks08:53
_ryaneXCeSS: I'll give it a shot08:53
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DarkStoneuhh08:53
mahmoudits referring me to a debian wiki....?!08:53
DarkStonesohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ ./configure08:53
DarkStonebash: ./configure: No such file or directory08:53
DarkStone:|08:53
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Webu[Nirvana] , if i stick an usb stick to my computer, does kubuntu automatically detect and mount it?08:53
eXCeSSmahmoud: kubuntu is built on debian08:54
WebuOr do i have always mount them first or?08:54
eXCeSSWebu: yes08:54
WebuHow about usb hard disk?08:54
mahmoudI see, thank you08:54
DarkStonewelp!08:54
eXCeSSWebu: mine does08:54
DarkStonesohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ ./configure08:54
DarkStonebash: ./configure: No such file or directory08:54
eXCeSSWebu: if not then restart it should08:54
WebuOk08:54
martyndahi, i have100% CPU usage with amarok 1.4 and xine, can anyone help please?08:54
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eXCeSSWebu: or you can edit the fstab to audomatically mount it08:54
eXCeSS!fstab08:54
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions08:54
WebuThanks08:54
[Nirvana] martynda: what does top say is eating the memory?08:54
DarkStonesomeone help me08:54
eXCeSSWebu: np08:55
DarkStonesohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ ./configure08:55
DarkStonebash: ./configure: No such file or directory08:55
[Nirvana] martynda: and are you up-to-date08:55
eXCeSSDarkStone: what are you trying to do08:55
Webu!ftp08:55
ubotu<reply>  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd08:55
eXCeSSDarkStone: besudes ./configure08:55
[Nirvana] DarkStone: no ./configure08:55
[Nirvana] instructions are on the download page08:55
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martynda[Nirvana] : yes, i'm up to date, and amarokapp is eating up cycles08:55
oputresThe guide tells me to go to System > Administration > Networking but I don't have a Administration folder. Is there an opposit in Kubuntu? The guide is for Gnome based Ubuntu.08:55
DarkStoneexcess08:55
martynda[Nirvana] : it's not consisten though, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't08:56
eXCeSSDarkStone: yes08:56
DarkStoneim trying to compile a source08:56
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eXCeSSDarkStone: check the instructions as nirvana said08:56
[Nirvana] DarkStone: For Easyubuntu?08:56
DarkStoneyes08:56
[Nirvana] which v. did you download?08:56
DarkStone3.008:57
Webu!usb08:57
[Nirvana] 3.01 (already compiled) nighly snapshot, or bleeding edge?08:57
ubotuI know nothing about usb08:57
Webu!usb disk08:57
ubotuI know nothing about usb disk08:57
DarkStone3.0 only08:57
WebuOkey, now i need software to my brand new Kubuntu server08:57
[Nirvana] !wherearethecommandsfound08:57
ubotuI know nothing about wherearethecommandsfound08:57
DarkStonei got it from the link in the irc channel08:57
WebuApache..08:57
WebuIs ftpd best ftp server?08:57
[Nirvana] maybe, I usually see proftpd used08:58
martyndavstf i used a bit too i think08:58
[Nirvana] for a guide on settings up stuff, poke around doc.gwos.org and ubuntuguide.org08:58
martyndavsftp*08:58
kerianI've used proftpd and pure-ftpd... both are fine.... been meaning to try vsftp the next time I setup ftp (which may be awhile)08:59
[Nirvana] DarkStone: if you wanna compile easyubuntu08:59
DarkStone?08:59
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[Nirvana] DarkStone: then download the nightly snapshot instead of the compiled package08:59
DarkStonefrom where?08:59
[Nirvana] download pg08:59
DarkStonepg?08:59
[Nirvana] http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html --> bottom of this page09:00
WebuOokey, only problem is there any video stream servers avaible in linux09:00
[Nirvana] pg = posgresql... :( I meant page09:00
DarkStoneok09:00
WebuNeed to stream webcam video to internet09:00
[Nirvana] type in command:  sudo apt-cache search video |grep stream09:01
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[Nirvana] and read the pkg descriptions09:01
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[Nirvana] for further pakage descriptions09:01
WebuLets try09:01
v3ctorvls09:01
WebuDang09:01
DarkStonenirvana09:01
DarkStonesohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ cd EasyUbuntu_2006-XX-XX09:01
DarkStonebash: cd: EasyUbuntu_2006-XX-XX: No such file or directory09:01
DarkStonesohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ sudo python easyubuntu.in09:01
DarkStonepython: can't open file 'easyubuntu.in': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory09:01
DarkStoneerror! :(09:01
WebuI'm at konqueror and cant found my new disk here09:01
[Nirvana] for further package descriptions, search here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/   ... but apt-cache search should be alright09:02
WebuIt shows if i use "Storage media"09:02
DarkStone:S09:02
WebuBut in konqueror i cant see it straight09:02
[Nirvana] DarkStone: replace X's with the version number, or for a quicker way, replace X's with *09:02
WebuIf i use "Storage media" i cant get root rights09:02
[Nirvana] so try --> cd EasyUbuntu_2006-*-*09:02
v3ctorapt:/ in konq is pretty good for searching for packages also09:03
[Nirvana] Webu: Did you set the right permissions in /etc/fstab?09:03
Webu"only root can mount"09:03
DarkStone  File "easyubuntu.in", line 33, in ?09:03
DarkStone    replace(confdir)09:03
DarkStone  File "/home/sohaib/easyubuntu/EasyUbuntu_2006-06-22/EasyUbuntu/detect.py", line 155, in replace09:03
DarkStone    os.popen("chown -R "+os.getlogin()+":"+os.getlogin()+" "+confdir)09:03
DarkStoneOSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory09:03
WebuYes, but i cant mount this09:03
martyndais there a list of commands such ast smb:/ apt:/ etc in konq?09:03
|lostbyte|Hi ! guys..09:03
WebuI'm not root09:03
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AshexHow do I extract a RAR file that is password protected?09:03
WebuIf i use konqueror with roots, cant find the disk09:03
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|lostbyte|Ashex, unrar x file.rar and type in the password when it askes.09:04
[Nirvana] Ashex: do you have unrar-nonfree installed?09:04
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|lostbyte|BRB09:04
WebuI found solution09:04
[Nirvana] Ashex: Of course I mean unrar, or unrar-free :P I don't make mistakes ....09:05
eXCeSS!osd09:05
ubotuI know nothing about osd09:05
AshexHeh09:05
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Ashexokay, I was using Ark I think09:05
WebuOmg omg it works09:05
chiarettahey anyone have the speedtouch package?? I can't found it on my repository09:06
Webu[Nirvana] , is it normal i cannot write to the new disk i mounted without root permission?09:06
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v3ctormartynda: don't k now of any list..but i love audiocd:/09:06
WebuOr do i need to configure something?09:06
[Nirvana] Webu: to be able to write to it, you must do some magic in /etc/fstab to give yourself permissions09:07
martyndawould be REALLY nice to get a list, seems i keep discovering new ones all the time09:07
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v3ctorsame here09:07
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martyndai use smb:/ and ftp:/ all the time09:08
Webu[Nirvana] , so its normal you need roots to write anywhere expect your home09:08
[Nirvana] yes09:08
eXCeSSWebu: run kate with sudo and edit it09:08
v3ctori used sftp:/ and audiocd:/ all the time09:08
WebuOk09:08
[Nirvana] root owns your computer, but you also own your house09:08
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a app that has an option to play ogg/mp3/wav/flac backwards?09:08
[Nirvana] computer was supposed to be country ^^09:08
[Nirvana] so think of root as the gov't :P09:08
WebuYeps.09:09
WebuJust thought if i put my apache public_html to my hdb, i always need roots to edit files or anything09:10
WebuThat sounds pretty dumb09:10
eXCeSSno you can edit the folder to let everyone edit it09:10
eXCeSSlike all my hard drives i have so i can make folders etc09:10
eXCeSSyou set the permissions once and youre good09:11
[Nirvana] Webu: It is secure though09:11
WebuOk, is it smart to put public_html to hdb and use ftp to access there as well09:11
WebuIs it possible to make ssh access there as well?09:11
WebuOr shh is only for home directorys?09:11
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[Nirvana] for server stuff, read: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu and http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ServerGuide09:13
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WebuOkey, how to get root rights in console09:13
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WebuSomething like sudo -?09:13
[Nirvana] sudo su09:13
WebuOk thanks09:13
h3sp4wnsudo -i09:13
xDigitalStealthxby any chance, does anyone know how to change the screen resolution in compiz?09:13
DarkStonehow do i check kernel version?09:14
[Nirvana] and exit to go back to normal user09:14
[Nirvana] uname -a09:14
[Nirvana] DarkStone: uname -a and it should show Linux computer-name 2.6.15-25-686 where the 2.6.15 is the kernel name09:15
DarkStoneok09:15
[Nirvana] or for only the kernel name09:15
[Nirvana] uname -r09:15
DarkStoneand if i wanted to update09:15
DarkStonehow would i do that09:15
mikearthurwhy would you want to?09:15
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[Nirvana] DarkStone: sudo apt-get update && sudp apt-get upgrade  ??09:16
DarkStoneum09:16
DarkStonei think so09:16
[Nirvana] sudp = sudo ^^09:16
mikearthuryou think what?09:16
DarkStoneis there not a new kernel coming soon?09:16
[Nirvana] well09:16
DarkStoneone with wifi improvement or something?09:16
gnomefreak[Nirvana] : dist-upgrade for new kernel for your versionm09:16
gnomefreak-m09:16
mikearthurwhat card do you have09:16
gnomefreakDarkStone: not for dapper09:16
DarkStoneok09:16
[Nirvana] *-23 was updated to *-25 because of a security report09:17
gnomefreakDarkStone: 2.6.15-25 was just released for dapper09:17
DarkStoneok09:17
DarkStonei have 2.6.15-2309:17
DarkStone:|09:17
[Nirvana] sudo you gotta update!09:17
[Nirvana] make sure dapper-security is activated!09:17
DarkStoneerm09:17
DarkStoneok09:17
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DarkStoneis it critical?09:18
sorush20hi guys I have lost the copy to and move to buttons all of a sudden what can I do?09:18
DarkStonesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   ?09:18
[Nirvana] lemme show you the report (it prolly isn't.. I didn't update yet and I'm still breathing)09:18
DarkStonelol09:18
DarkStoneis it sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to update?09:18
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[Nirvana] report: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2006-June/000342.html09:18
[Nirvana] DarkStone: yes09:19
DarkStoneO.O09:19
DarkStoneok09:19
DarkStoneil update then09:19
DarkStone^_^09:19
[Nirvana] DarkStone: and if you get an error that packages are kept back, you have to -->  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:19
DarkStoneok09:19
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DarkStoneE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.09:20
DarkStonewith both commands09:20
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DarkStoneapt-get update and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:21
[Nirvana] try sudo apt-get update again ?09:21
DarkStonesame09:21
[Nirvana] you haven't modified your sources.list have you?09:22
Tommy2k4grr kopete wont sign into msn (server unavailable) and gaim doesnt open when i click the icon o_o09:22
eXCeSStom09:22
eXCeSSreboot09:22
DarkStonenirvana09:22
DarkStoneno09:22
Tommy2k4kk09:22
DarkStonei havent09:22
DarkStone:|09:22
[Nirvana] Tommy2k4: in a konsole  --> sudo killall gaim - then --> gaim09:22
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd!xine09:22
ubotuI know nothing about xine09:22
SurfnKidanyone know how to use mc09:23
SurfnKidhave 2 linux boxes09:23
DarkStonemy sources list is empty09:23
wordhm...what's a command to see if /dev/sda exists?09:23
[Nirvana] Tommy2k4: Or get amsn.. it has voice/cam support and gaim/kopete don't09:23
eXCeSS!mount09:23
SurfnKidneed to know how to connect to the other box to pull up the root dir09:23
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks09:23
DarkStoneis it in /etc/sources.list?09:23
eXCeSSfdisk -ls09:23
DarkStoneor am i looking in the wrong place?09:23
macd /etc/apt/sources.list09:23
eXCeSSword: fdisk -ls09:23
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mikearthur[Nirvana] : kopete has both those features09:24
iNiku[Nirvana] : does the dapper amsn work for you?09:24
DarkStoneyeh my sources list has some sources in it09:24
[Nirvana] mikearthur: it does now?09:24
DarkStone!paste09:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:24
[Nirvana] iNiku: yes09:24
iNiku[Nirvana] : it segfaults here09:24
wordeXCeSS: No like a way that if it doesn't exist the command will fail09:24
[Nirvana] remove --purge and reinstall? happened to me once09:24
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhich engine should be used with amarok?09:25
iNiku[Nirvana] : yeah, just trying that now09:25
DarkStone[Nirvana]  this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1620809:25
iNikuwould be weird, though...09:25
mikearthurn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: shouldn't matter hugely, I prefer xine09:25
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[Nirvana] or install cvs amsn, when you download, do ./configure, then make, then make deb and install the deb it makes09:25
mikearthurTommy2k4: The MSN network is down09:25
Tommy2k4ty09:25
[Nirvana] n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: xine or gstreamer09:25
oputresAparently I need ndiswrapper-utils. How do I get this? Should I write apt-get ndiswrapper-utils in the Terminal? Does apt-get even work in Kubuntu? It doesn't seems like that.09:25
iNiku[Nirvana] : is the cvs version reasonably stable?09:25
mikearthurwhy not use Kopete, it supports everything, and doesn't look SO ugly!09:26
[Nirvana] oputres: apt-get does work09:26
iNikumikearthur: kopete is soo uncomfortable09:26
[Nirvana] oputres: sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-utils09:26
[Nirvana] oputres: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils09:26
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mikearthuriNiku: "uncomfortable" how?09:26
iNikumikearthur: it doesn't have any usable message notification mechanisms, for one thing09:26
iNikuI tried it for a couple of days and it drove me crazy09:26
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdmikearthur: what does the engine do ?09:26
mikearthurhow do you mean?09:26
mikearthurn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: plays the music09:27
[Nirvana] amsn + tcl/tk 8.5 w/AA = heaven09:27
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iNikumikearthur: or actually, I'm not sure now if that was what I disliked about it the most... but there was something I didn't like at all09:27
iNiku[Nirvana] : AA?09:27
Tommy2k4kopete crashes when i accept someones webcam09:27
mikearthurits pretty customisable09:27
Tommy2k4it also crashes when amarok crashes09:27
mikearthurTommy2k4: works for me09:27
[Nirvana] Antialiasing so it's not ugly09:27
iNikuahh09:28
DarkStone[Nirvana]  this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1620809:28
mikearthurfont rendering is still horrendous, and the theming09:28
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Tommy2k4i use kopete cos gaim is ugly09:28
DarkStoneis there anything missing?09:28
iNiku[Nirvana] : nope, amsn still crashes after reinstalling09:28
[Nirvana] now if only sf.net's cvs was up so I can get AA working again09:28
Tommy2k4and gaim kept flashing the window when there was no new msgs09:28
mikearthurdifferent strokes for different folks :)09:28
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iNikugaim 2 is pretty nice09:28
mikearthurits still GTK09:28
iNikuI could not use 1.x though09:28
[Nirvana] iNiku:  install nightly snapshot amsn, when you download, do ./configure, then make, then make deb and install the deb it makes09:28
iNikuhated it09:28
oputresAah, the sudo part. Still I get an error saying Incorrect operation ndiswrapper (and ndiswrapper-utils). I can't find the ndiswrapper in Add/remove program either :(09:28
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Tommy2k4ooo almost a goal to argentina09:29
iNiku[Nirvana] : yeah, if I get around to it... gaim2 is serving me reasonably well atm09:29
[Nirvana] oputres:I bet ndis is in universe and you don't have it enabled09:29
iNiku[Nirvana] : I used to run amsn before and I liked it, though09:29
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iNikuamsn is also the only IM thingy on linux that even somewhat implements the new MSN file transfer protocol09:30
iNiku(meaning reasonable transfer rates)09:30
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[Nirvana] oputres: do you have universe enabled?09:30
iNikugaim and kopete only support the old protocol that goes via MSN servers and is dead slow09:30
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oputresWhat do you meen by that? How do I enable universe? Sorry, I'm such a newbie at this09:31
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WebuDang09:31
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WebuI dont even know wheres my apache2 public_html09:31
WebuApache conf is so different09:32
[Nirvana] oputres: --> cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it at kubuntu.pastebin.com09:32
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[Nirvana] oputres: cat /etc/apt/sources.list is a command you type at the konsole btw09:32
[Nirvana] oh shit... 3:32... brb in 2 I gotta eat breakfast09:33
[Nirvana] that is... shoot ^^09:33
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iNikuis that 3:30 AM or PM?09:34
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iNikuas in... early or late breakfast?09:34
[Nirvana] late09:34
[Nirvana] see.. Kubuntu makes me starve09:34
[Nirvana] I'm switching to Windows!09:34
iNikuyeah. you should sue canonical09:34
[Nirvana] oh wait.. Windows sucks!09:34
[Nirvana] time for a Mac!09:35
iNikuyou can run ubuntu on a mac...09:35
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Ashex!tell me about pastebin09:35
[Nirvana] time for a SPARC09:36
[Nirvana] Ashex: kubuntu.pastebin.com is so people don't paste in the channel09:36
[Nirvana] popcorns done..09:37
Ashex[Nirvana] : I know09:37
iNikupopcorn for breakfast? ugh.09:37
AshexI was checking what ubotu said09:37
iNikuin fact... popcorn? ugh.09:37
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[Nirvana] popcorn till the toast is done09:38
WebuOmg wheres my apache public html09:39
WebuNo idea where is it09:39
[Nirvana] ..--> /var/www?09:40
WebuHmm looks like it09:40
WebuCould see it from apache2.conf09:40
WebuCouldn't09:40
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oputresWell, saving in pastebin.com seems to be down for the moment. Anyway, there were only a lot of commented lines (#)09:42
iNikuprobably somewhere in /etc/apache/conf.d/*?09:42
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h3sp4wnWebu: Have you enabled userdir09:42
iNikuhaven't actually looked at apache on ubuntu but that seems to be how most distros do it now09:43
[Nirvana] oputres..09:43
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[Nirvana] !paste09:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:43
WebuWhat's userdi09:43
[Nirvana] go there vv09:43
iNikuWebu: I mean, you should be able to find it in one of the files under /etc/apache/conf.d09:43
iNikuor /etc/httpd/conf.d09:43
WebuI check it09:43
WebuThere's just "charset"-file in conf.d09:43
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oputreshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16210 Cool function btw...09:45
WebuTime to go bed now, good night to all!09:45
Webu--->09:45
|lostbyte|Webu, Goodnight :)09:46
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andrisphello all.. is it possible kde taskbar not to show, for example, '#kubuntu - Konversation', but just 'Konversation' ?09:47
[Nirvana] oputres: Where are you from?09:47
oputresSweden09:47
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[Nirvana] I think it's down09:47
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[Nirvana] i tried pinging09:47
oputresAah, the server from were apt-get gets the necessery files?09:48
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[Nirvana] what's a country code for a country neer sweden?09:48
[Nirvana] italy!09:48
[Nirvana] or no, that's switzerland09:48
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oputresFinland, Norway or Denmark09:48
[Nirvana] country code?09:48
h3sp4wn276 is germany09:48
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[Nirvana] 2 letter country code09:49
oputresTry Germany then, it's just south of us09:49
[Nirvana] like ca =  canada, se = sweded09:49
[Nirvana] sweden^09:49
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oputresThen it's probably Fi, no and dk09:49
[Nirvana] germany = de?09:49
[Nirvana] or yeah, it is09:49
[Nirvana] !source-o-matic09:49
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:49
[Nirvana] go there and make a sources.list09:50
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oputresBy flight or train? :) How do i get there?09:50
[Nirvana] http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:50
[Nirvana] I meant the URL from !source-o-matic09:51
[Nirvana] and checkmark everything and anything you think you might need09:51
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oputresCool, the source list is a list of every availible programs for (k)ubuntu?09:52
[Nirvana] then when the sources.list generates, press alt + F2 and type in --> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list <-- and remove everything in that file, and paste in the new one09:52
[Nirvana] yes sources.list tells apt-get what pkgs it can download09:52
[Nirvana] make sure you use de for a country code, I know Germany has some good Ubuntu servers, and it seems swedens are down09:53
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdanyone know how to fix the fetch lyrics script not loading in the 1.4 amarok?09:55
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oputresIf I wait for the swedish servers to come online again, will I then be able to just write apt-get "wanted packages" in the terminal and smile when it's downloaded? I need some evening food now.09:57
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Ashexwe need a pastebin bot09:58
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwe need better linux apps09:59
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DarkStoneerm10:01
DarkStonehow do i install 7zip10:01
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DarkStoneis there a 7zip?10:01
DarkStonefor kubunut10:01
DarkStonekubuntu10:01
Ashexuse bzip10:02
Ashexor Ark10:02
DarkStoneark doesnt work10:02
oputresWhen typing sudo -s in the Terminal, am I then getting a more permanent admin mode in contrary to the single sudo line (like sudo apt-get whatever)?10:02
Ashexwhat are you trying to extract?10:02
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DarkStoneit is a 7zip file with a rom file in it10:02
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DrBairis universe down?10:04
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Chris_TuckerDrBair, which ones? us? ca? eu?...10:06
DrBairus10:06
Chris_TuckerDrBair, checking10:06
AshexI think it is, I'm having trouble installing crap10:06
DarkStone p7zip-full depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:10:06
DarkStone  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.10:06
DarkStone p7zip-full depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0); however:10:07
DarkStone  Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5.10:07
DarkStone p7zip-full depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0); however:10:07
DarkStone  Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.3-1ubuntu5.10:07
DarkStonedpkg: error processing p7zip-full (--install):10:07
DarkStonehow do i update?10:07
AshexDarkstone10:07
Ashexuse Pastebin10:07
Chris_TuckerDrBair, working here10:07
DarkStonesorry10:07
DarkStone:(10:07
DarkStone!pastebin10:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:07
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NoUseDarkStone have you added any 3rd party repos to sources.list?10:07
DarkStoneerm10:07
DarkStonenot that i know of10:07
NoUseDarkStone have you used automatix?10:08
jvzhow do you mount an iso without using root?  /dev/loopN are all chown'd as root:disk, my mount point is done similarly, and I'm part of the disk group, yet mount still requires root10:08
DarkStoneno10:08
DarkStonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1621110:08
Chris_TuckerNoUse, doubt that would cause it10:08
DarkStonethats my problem10:08
AshexYeah, I'm getting this error from apt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1621210:08
AshexCan't install a package due to a 403 error10:08
DarkStonei get the same error ashex10:08
DarkStone:|10:08
DarkStoneforbidden10:08
DrBairAshex: same here10:08
Chris_TuckerDarkStone, try apt-get install -f ... make sure it doesnt try to remove anything vital though10:09
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NoUse!info 7zip-full10:09
ubotuPackage 7zip-full does not exist in dapper10:09
Ashexbleh, took me forever to pastebin that. pastebin.com isn't being responsive10:09
Chris_Tuckertheres your problem :P10:09
Chris_Tuckerremove 7zip-full10:09
DarkStonethats what im trying to install10:10
DarkStone:|10:10
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NoUseDarkStone how are you trying to install it?10:10
DarkStonesudo dpkg -i p7zip.deb10:10
NoUseDarkStone sudo apt-get install p7zip10:11
NoUseDarkStone that deb was probably build for debian10:11
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DarkStoneFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/p7zip/p7zip_4.30.dfsg-1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 10:12
DarkStoneE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?10:12
DarkStonesohaib@sohaib-lapto10:12
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DarkStonesomeone give me a super sources.list?10:12
DarkStonelol10:12
DarkStone:|10:12
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NoUse!tell DarkStone about repos10:13
RogueJediZeroDarkStone: Did you try running apt-get update like it said?10:13
DarkStoneyes10:13
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NoUseRogueJediZero that server he's pointing to seems to be down10:13
DarkStonei get forbidden access error10:13
NoUseDarkStone you should have gotten a link from ubotu10:13
DarkStoneok10:14
RogueJediZeroNoUse: Oh. I guess a "whoops" is in order, then10:14
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[Nirvana] edubuntu meeting is on btw: #ubuntu-meeting10:15
[Nirvana] it might have ended..10:15
[Nirvana] nope, maybe not10:16
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eosynI'm getting 403 errors from the mirrors10:16
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eosynwell from the repos10:17
RogueJediZeroOh, yeah. Speaking of p7zip, is there a nice GUI for it anywhere? Ark is cute, but I can't find the compression options for 7z files10:17
eosyn:(10:17
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CPU_Wizardhello everybody!10:18
CPU_Wizardhow can i change the kde language?10:18
[Nirvana] jello10:18
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[Nirvana] CPU_Wizard: open system settings from the K menu10:19
[Nirvana] and click Regional & accessablility10:19
CPU_Wizardi did that, i chose my country (At the region settings)10:19
CPU_Wizardbut nothing happened10:19
[Nirvana] do you have i18n and i10n pkgs?10:19
CPU_Wizardi don't think so. I just installed kubuntu from live cd10:19
CPU_Wizardhow kai i download these packages?10:20
CPU_Wizardhow can i download these packages?10:20
[Nirvana] what's your 2 letter country code (where are you from)10:20
CPU_WizardGreece so gr i suppose10:20
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[Nirvana] actually.. el = greece10:20
CPU_Wizardok10:20
CPU_Wizardhow can i download this package?10:20
[Nirvana] sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-el10:21
CPU_Wizardlet me try it10:21
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Ashexwhat's the command to make something executable with chmod?10:21
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DrBairAshex: chmod +x filename10:21
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NoUseRogueJediZero ark supports 7zip for me10:21
Ashexawesome, thanks DrBair10:22
CPU_Wizard[Nirvana] , it's working! After that, what should i do?10:22
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[Nirvana] CPU_Wizard: smile?10:22
gregory_is_okI'm having trouble installing anything lately10:22
CPU_Wizardlol :-)10:22
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CPU_Wizardthank you nirvana! you were very helpfull!10:23
[Nirvana] is it translated? You may have to ctrl + alt + backspace to restart X after10:23
NoUsegregory_is_ok what kind of trouble?10:23
[Nirvana] gregory_is_ok: you from sweden?10:23
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CPU_Wizardso, i log out and in again and it's ok?10:23
douglas_I recently put together a new system this thing refuses to boot an os, and eventually I found out through memtest and page faults that there is something wrong with either the ram or memory controller...10:23
gregory_is_okwhen I try to install something, it has an error while it is downloading....10:24
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bobstrowow, is something up with some of the repositories?10:24
NoUsegregory_is_ok pastebin the errors10:24
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NoUse!pastebin10:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:24
geneo93could be bad processor10:24
douglas_If I get errors on both sticks in one ram slot, ok so the ram is bad both sticks somehow? Then I plug it into the next slot and I get different errors but once again I get errors10:24
[Nirvana] CPU_Wizard: ctrl + alt + backspace, then log in again10:24
bobstroeverything was fine earlier. now nothing will install, and i get some freaky messges (Get:84 2006-06-15-1346.19.pdiff [61.0kB] ) with apt-get update10:24
CPU_Wizardok, thank you! i'll let you know :-)10:25
c0lLwhat is a multicast stream?10:25
gregory_is_okErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe vlc 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6  403 Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 10:25
douglas_Does this indicate a memory error or controller error.10:25
douglas_?10:25
RogueJediZeroNoUse: I know, but I miss the options 7-zip for windows gives me like compression algorythm, dictionary size, etc.10:25
bobstrogregory_is_ok:  i'm having problems now too. was yours ok earlier?10:25
gregory_is_okyeah....10:25
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[Nirvana] CPU_Wizard: if you need more translated stuff (like openoffice.org or something), then type--> sudo apt-cache search <program-name> |grep el <--and it should bring up greek translations if there are any10:26
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NoUsegregory_is_ok bobstro that server is down it seems,10:27
gregory_is_okok10:27
[Nirvana] or sudo apt-cache search <progname> |grep Greek10:27
bobstrohah, figures. ok will try again later.10:27
NoUsegregory_is_ok bobstro /msg ubotu repos for a list of sources that should work10:27
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gregory_is_okare there mirrors or something?10:27
gregory_is_okoh10:27
gregory_is_okok10:27
[Nirvana] yes10:27
eosyngregory_is_ok: yep same error10:27
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bobstrothe internet is broken :)10:28
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CPU_WizardIt Worksssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!10:28
CPU_WizardThank you very much [Nirvana] !!!!!!!!!10:28
[Nirvana] to change your mirror, --> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list <-- and change the 2 letter country code to us or ca or de or something10:28
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[Nirvana] CPU_Wizard: actually, the correct file for greek language support is: language-support-el, my bad. so you should--> sudo apt-get install language-support-el10:30
[Nirvana] he'll be back... they always come back10:30
Ashexor break down crying screaming out to the linux gods10:31
[Nirvana] and they'll smite me for telling him the wrong pkg10:31
Ashexor laugh and say "Stupid n00b"10:31
Ashex:p10:32
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[Nirvana] must. find. better. ISP10:35
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ChristmasCpphi all10:36
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scastWhat's the problem with KControl?10:38
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bobstroscast:  as in?10:41
scastAs in not using it in the default dapper menu.10:42
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DaSkreechlnxkde: Dood!10:44
[Nirvana] scast: because Kubuntu devs made system settings for us to use10:44
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Chris_Tuckerhow do you list all user groups on a system via CLI?10:49
trappistChris_Tucker: getent group | cut -d: -f110:50
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bobstroscast: still there though10:51
scastHow can I get the default KDE (read: Not Kubuntu's) K Menu content?10:51
scastbobstro: yes, I know.10:51
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trappistscast: the content is populated by installed packages10:52
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jfrois there a way to get the developer headers etc. for KDE installed? everything i try says it'll BREAK10:53
trappistjfro: what have you tried?  for most packages, there's a packagename-dev package with the headers for the packages10:54
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Chris_Tuckertrappist, i believe he means kcontrol and such10:54
iNikuisn't there a kde-dev metapackage?10:54
jfroyeah, wen i try that, i don't hit commit10:54
jfrocuz10:54
jfroit claims it'll break things10:54
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jfroinstead of install, it says BREAK install in red10:55
trappistiNiku: no - maybe there should be10:55
jfroand if i check details, it'll mention it'll replace various packages10:55
iNikusorry, kde-devel10:55
iNikuthere is10:55
iNikuit's a metapackage that includes most of the stuff needed for developing and compiling KDE stuff10:55
trappistoh... there is a -devel :)10:55
iNikuor depends on, to be exact...10:55
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iNikujfro: such as?10:56
jfroand why i can't install is due to10:56
jfrokdesdk depended on but won't be installed10:56
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jfroand some others10:56
iNikujfro: apt-get install kde-devel10:56
iNikuwhat does it say?10:56
jfrounmet dependencies10:57
jfrokdesdk, libartsc0-dev,libarts1-dev,kdelibs4-dev,kdebase-dev,libkonq4-dev10:57
jfrodepended on but not going to be installed10:57
iNikuwhen you try to do what?10:57
jfroinstall kde-devel10:57
trappistmaybe you need to say apt-get -f install10:58
iNikuyeah, could do an apt-get -f install first10:58
iNikuin case your system already has broken dependencies10:58
jfrook10:59
iNikuoh10:59
iNikuI guess you don't have universe and multiverse enabled?10:59
jfroi have universe10:59
jfroapt-get -f install11:00
jfrodid nothing11:00
iNikuokay, that's good11:00
jfrok11:00
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jfrosome of them is do to libglib2.011:02
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Praktilo everyone11:04
iNikuI think you may need multiverse for the kde-devel stuff11:04
Praktito which partition does kubuntu suspend on hibernate by default?11:04
jfroheh this doesn't make sense, libglib2.0-dev needs libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed11:04
jfrobut the 2.10.3 one isn't available to be installed11:04
jfroo.O11:04
crimsunjfro: do you have -updates properly enabled?11:05
iNikuPrakti: your swap partition11:05
jfro-updates?11:05
jfrodapper-updates ?11:05
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PraktiiNiku: allright11:06
iNikujfro: there's definitely something wrong with your sources.list11:06
jfrodapper-updates was off11:06
iNikumaybe what crimsun suggested11:06
jfrojust enabled it11:06
jfrowell11:07
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PraktiiNiku: I was quite unsure since there is no resume=/dev/hdaX boot-option in the default menu.lst of Grub11:07
iNikudid you apt-get update after enabling it?11:07
jfroyeah11:07
iNikuPrakti: I'm speaking of something I know very little about here, but I think it's on the initrd somewhere11:07
jfrobut us is hosed for me today11:07
jfro403's up the wazoo11:07
jfrojust switched to another one11:08
iNikuPrakti: which is why it's not in the grub menu.lost11:08
iNikumenu.lst even11:08
PraktiiNiku: this is weird. Seems like I might to have to dig a little deeper into that issue.11:09
iNikuPrakti: are you having problems with hibernation?11:09
PraktiiNiku: lots.11:09
iNikulike what?11:10
PraktiMostly the graphical frontends like Klaptop or KPowersave seem a little underintegrated, regarding what you just said.11:10
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iNikuum, how do you mean?11:10
PraktiKlaptop refuses to hibernate properly and wakes up.11:10
jfrokde-devel still complains about kdesdk, trying kdesdk by itself11:11
PraktiKPowersave suspends properly (sometimes) but only when I configure the resume-partition manually11:11
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PraktiOn some occassions the hibernation fails with an "out of free memory"11:11
PraktiAnd usb ist always fscked up on resume.11:12
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jfrothink i'm on track, thanks guys11:12
PraktiThats really weird.11:12
iNikuum. well I'm not an expert on hibernation, it Just Works for me... although I don't really use it, I prefer suspend/resume instead, so much quicker.11:12
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iNikuis your swap partition at least the same size as your physical memory11:13
iNiku?11:13
PraktiSure. Its twice11:13
SurfnKidmine's 1.5 its size11:13
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iNikuPrakti: you could try running the ACPI scripts directly to rule out any weirdness from the K things11:15
iNiku /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh should do it11:16
oputresBefore I go to bed, can someone explain to me what Universe is? Somebody wrote Is universe down earlier...11:16
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crimsun!components11:16
ubotuhttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components11:16
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crimsun^^ oputres11:16
PraktiiNiku: I will try that. Didn't know the script was meant to be run standalone.11:17
Praktithanks for the help11:17
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Praktibrb.11:17
iNikuI guess it's not, really11:18
iNikuoh well11:18
oputresAah, so it's a place (server) were all the free programs, appz, packages etc for Linux is at?11:19
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oputresIs it from the universe apt-get gets the files?11:19
trappistapt-get gets its files from repositories, one of which is called universe11:20
[Nirvana] oputres: universe is one place11:20
[Nirvana] ouch.. beaten11:20
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SurfnKiddoes anyone know how to use Midnight Commander that can help me with a few commands to log in to a remote machine11:22
[Nirvana] SurfnKid: you can prolly use konqueror... smb:/ no?11:23
SurfnKid[Nirvana] : um sure. but its to another linux box, i guess i could try11:24
[Nirvana] is it a samba connection to the other box? or a crossover wire?11:24
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SurfnKidsamba as in linux type connection? yeah, boxes are both on a wifi network11:25
oputresHmm, I can't find the translation for repository. Never heared it before... So Universe is only one giant server out there on the internet?11:25
SurfnKidmidnight commander is awesome11:25
SurfnKidjust need to know how to bring up the remote session11:25
iNikuoputres: repository is basically a collection of software packages (in this context)11:25
Prakti'/etc/acpi/suspend.sh didnt do the thing either.11:25
iNikuPrakti: you may need to run it with the force argument11:26
PraktiiNiku:11:26
Praktiwhy?11:26
[Nirvana] oputres: ubuntu has many servers11:26
iNikuoputres: universe is one such collection of software for ubuntu -- the one that includes all the stuff that has been packaged but is not being maintained by ubuntu folks, basically11:27
oputresI see. Well it's a new world for me, this Linux. Now I will sleep on it. Good night (it's 11:30 PM in Sweden)11:27
PraktiI got a quite strange error, echo claimed not to be able to11:27
Praktiallocate memory11:27
Praktiso the hibernation command could not be sent into proc/acpi/state11:28
[Nirvana] info about the repos and what they mean: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components11:28
iNikuuh, that does sound weird indeed11:28
PraktiI correct: could not be sent to /sys/power/stat11:28
PraktiI think I will meditate on the problem a little.11:28
Praktimaybe give suspend2 a go.11:28
iNikusounds like your ACPI support may be a little iffy, or something11:29
iNikudoes suspend to memory (ie. sleep) work either?11:29
PraktiiNiku: suspend to mem works like a charm11:29
Praktieven fixes the usb error after resume from hibernation11:29
Praktibut I regard this as a quite crude workaround11:29
PraktiBut frankly I'm disappointed with Kubuntu 6.06 regarding ACPI.11:30
PraktiUbuntu 5.10 worked like a charm regarding ACPI11:30
Praktiand just out of the box.11:31
LjLPrakti: but *k*ubuntu 5.10 didn't, did it?11:31
PraktiLjL: I don't know11:31
LjLfor me, neither kubuntu (5.10 or 6.06) worked well with ACPI (meaning sleep and hibernation)11:31
DaSkreechWhat should I use to build a GUI in Java?11:31
LjLubuntu does work very well with that, though11:31
PraktiHmm,....11:32
LjLthough resuming from sleep is still faster on windows, but then what the heck11:32
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PraktiLooks like I need to contact the Kubuntu-ACPI-devs11:33
PraktiThey might need some help.11:33
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PraktiAt the moment it's not that bad.11:34
GullyFoylewoohoo i got flash working in konqueror on amd64!11:34
PraktiGullyFoyle: congrats11:34
GullyFoyleusing 32bit plugins on 64bit konq11:35
GullyFoylenow i can use firefoxfor noflash but konq if i need it11:35
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PraktiI'm still struggling with flash on 32bit11:36
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Praktii38611:37
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jbirdAngelhello11:37
jbirdAngelit is illegal to listen to an mp3 on linux right? is it legal to convert an mp3 to ogg and then listen to it all on linux? what program should i use to convert if it is?11:37
GullyFoylei didnt want to run 32bit firefox just for flash, but once in a while i do want to see flash11:37
DaSkreechjbirdAngel: It's not illegal11:38
linuxmonkeyjbirdAngel: were not legal advise it may be illegal to do both depending of your country11:38
DaSkreechit's illeagal to watch a DVD11:38
mikearthurhow do I enable BCF fonts in Kubuntu?11:38
DaSkreechIf you live in the United States :)11:38
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mikearthurjbirdAngel: what country are you in11:39
jbirdAngelUSA11:39
mikearthurmost countries have fair use laws11:39
mikearthurand in yours, I think its technically illegal11:39
geneo93its not illegal only if you share them with other ppl outside your familly11:39
mikearthurbut its not the sort of thing that people are getting jailed for11:39
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DaSkreechjbirdAngel: So basically which is more important to you listening tomp3s or staying clear of the legallly blurry sreas?11:40
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mindspithallo all!11:41
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mindspitcan i force kerry beagle search to rescan directories again for new stuff?11:41
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mindspitit does not find anything under /media/hdd1(hard disk using fat32) i have11:42
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jbirdAngelthank you for trying to help, doing the Lord's will is the mos timportant to me, and when the laws dont go against Him then i think it right to follow them, so thats what ill do, have a nice time :)11:43
LjLjbirdAngel: what about find someone who has a license to read MP3, and ask them to convert yours to Ogg? that someone might be yourself, if you have a licensed version of Windows (for instance)11:43
DaSkreechjbirdAngel: We must obey God rather than men :)11:44
mindspitoh god! no more god for me...11:44
LjLand software patents are unholy. but anyway11:44
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DaSkreechLjL: :-)11:44
mindspithere in greece we had 12 and all human-ish11:44
mindspityes soft patebnts are unholy!11:45
DaSkreechLjL: Well I think the patent is on creating mp3's so as long as he is not converting TO mp3 he should be good11:45
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jbirdAngelLjL: ya i have windows, i can switch to that, and since any new comps i might buy will probably be laptops its likely ill alwyas have windows on it, but id prefer to save the $ and use linux11:45
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LjLmindspit: here in italy we couldn't think of our own, so we copied your 1211:45
geneo93lame is free codec that will play mp3's11:45
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mindspit:)11:45
jbirdAngelDaSkreech: yes we must:) and i most certaintly want to :) thanks11:45
LjLDaSkreech: i'm not sure about that. if that were the case, then why doesn't ubuntu include mp3 *reading* support?11:45
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DaSkreechLjL: Cause the codec does both11:46
LjLjbirdAngel: i'm not telling you to use windows in general, but just to convert your mp3 to ogg (as you suggested might be an option for you) so you can listen to the ogg legally on linux11:46
LjLDaSkreech: uh, *which* codec? there are certainly software programs that do both things, but there are also certainly ones that do only either11:47
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geneo93LjL:  where did you get the idea thats its illegal11:47
crimsunLjL: in main, you mean?11:47
DaSkreechAnd you need to install a mp3 ripping codec alongside a mp3 reading codec?11:47
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crimsunubuntu actually /does/ include it in main11:47
crimsun(cf. xmms)11:47
LjLgeneo93: why are you addressing me specifically? we're like 4 people talking about this11:47
geneo93its not illegal11:48
LjLcrimsun: hm, right, it's not there by default though... why?11:48
jbirdAngelLjL: ya i could do that, right now though with the websites im browsing has sound files and or video so atleast for browsing this stuff i guess it will be easier to just switch to windows11:48
crimsunLjL: potential IP enforcement issues11:48
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crimsunLjL: hence, gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 is in universe11:48
LjLcrimsun: which means that an mp3 *decoder* (not *encoder*) *can*, too, be illegal. correct?11:48
LjLcan, or might, or at least there's a patent on it, valid or not11:49
geneo93lame is gpl'd11:49
crimsunLjL: potentially, yes, which is why they [should]  all be in universe.11:49
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LjLgeneo93: then see what crimsun said, as to the question you asked me11:49
crimsunlame is even stickier. It's an /encoder/ as well, so it's dumped into multiverse.11:49
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geneo93oh the computer police are coming to get you right now11:50
crimsunconsidering I contributed code to LAME, well...11:51
LjLgeneo93: are you trolling or what? you said it wasn't illegal, and yet apparently it is or can be. not you're being sarcastic. are you going to do that no matter what we say?11:51
jbirdAngelcan quicktime play mp3? quicktime is fully legal to run on linux under wine, so if it can play mp3s then that is legal that way isnt it?11:52
LjLgeneo93: surely, Ubuntu has the right to decide that it shouldn't include things that are [believed to be]  illegal.11:52
LjLjbirdAngel: uh, i guess winamp is legal to run on linux under wine as well. what matters is you having a license11:52
DaSkreechjbirdAngel: Yes11:52
LjLunless the EULA of winamp says it can only be run on windows, that is. i doubt that though11:52
geneo93LjL:  its not included because they dont like sticking there necks out like kororaa11:53
DaSkreechLjL: Winamp doesn't have a Liscense just an agreement11:53
LjLDaSkreech: whatever11:53
geneo93use xmms11:53
LjLgeneo93: it is not included because it's understood to be illegal in some countries.11:53
geneo93ah why was it installed by default on mine then11:54
LjLgeneo93: what was?11:54
geneo93xmms11:54
BanskuZYou have to pay royalties if u live in USA (just a guess).11:54
LjLgeneo93: on what, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu?11:54
geneo93kubuntu11:55
geneo93off dvd11:55
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h3sp4wnBut canocial is registered in a tax haven it doesn't have to obey usa law11:55
LjLgeneo93: xmms is certainly not installed by default on kubuntu...11:55
LjLhmm, dvd, i wouldn't know about that.11:55
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: America reserves the right to bomb anyone who doesn't pay them money11:55
geneo93not only that but i got 686 kernel right off that also11:56
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Why haven't they attacked China then11:56
LjLh3sp4wn: and yet people downloading it might. anyway, it would be fine with me if kubuntu included mp3 support by default, but it makes no sense to just be sarcastic about it and/or deny that it may be illegal in the USA and/or other countries11:56
DaSkreechChina makes them money as an aside11:56
LjLgeneo93: well the 686 kernel at least is certainly very legal ;-)11:56
crimsungeneo93: xmms is still in main for legacy reasons. It may well disappear into universe.11:57
Official_Cwhat is 686? is that the 64 bit architecture?11:57
LjLOfficial_C: no. it's the pentium architecture, basically11:57
Official_Cso what is 386?11:57
Official_Cthe same thing?11:57
LjLthe, uh, 386 architecture? :-)11:57
LjLOfficial_C: a 386 kernel will run perfectly on 586, 686, K6, K7 etc11:58
geneo93386 is one step above 28611:58
Official_Ck thats what i though11:58
wordw00t the new pure pwnage episode is out ;p11:58
Official_Cso, do you guys have the 686 jernel?11:58
LjLOfficial_C: it's just that the more specialized versions use xyz-specific instructions, that may make things faster (where "xyz" is 686, or K7, or whatever --- i believe that's the two intel 32-bit archs that ubuntu offers beside 386)11:58
LjLOfficial_C: i have the K7 kernel, because i have an AMD Athlon11:59
DaSkreechOfficial_C: 386 is the lowest denominator. It will always work on a x86 machine11:59
DaSkreechOfficial_C: It may be slower or not take advatnage of special hardware but it will work12:00
Official_Cis the windowsxp kernel designed for the 386 arch?12:00
LjLOfficial_C: as a rough rule, if you have a recent computer, but not a 64-bit one, use 686 if it's an intel, and k7 if it's an AMD. if you have a 64 bit one, use the relevant kernel. if your computer is *quite* old, use the 386 kernel12:00
DaSkreechOfficial_C: If you know what Processor you have you can get a more specialized one12:00
LjLOfficial_C: using the 386 kernel will be fine on *any* intel-based processor, though12:00
DaSkreechOfficial_C: I'd hazzard a yes :)12:00
h3sp4wnThe server kernel is still compiled for 38612:00
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LjLhm i guess windows xp *might* only work on 486 or even pentium... just a guess though12:01
geneo93except for mine with dual xeons12:01
Official_CLjL: I have a P412:01
LjLOfficial_C: 686 should be fine12:01
Official_Cok12:01
LjLOfficial_C: anyway, as long as you keep 386 installed, you can always fall back to that at the GRUB boot menu12:01
Official_Ccool12:02
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LjLcrimsun: off the record... are you actually putting mp3-stuff out of main because of the possible-in-some-countries illegality, or to encourage using free formats? :)12:03

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