[12:05] <gan|y|med> sry, was busy
[12:06] <gan|y|med> where do i get streaming information from... is there some server or sth.?
[12:08] <shulman> I lost the location bar on kaffine... how do I get it back?
[12:09] <slow-motion> n8
[12:09] <mcrandello> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/modules/fglrx-kernel/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4', needed by `/usr/src/modules/fglrx-kernel/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.o'.  Stop.
[12:09] <mcrandello> grr
[12:22] <negocio> hi
[12:23] <negocio> i cant install flsh plugin to konqueror
[12:23] <negocio> and i can run a ms windows based program
[12:23] <negocio> with vmware
[12:23] <negocio> its seems to be not working
[12:24] <walter> hi everybody
[12:25] <negocio> i need some help
[12:25] <negocio> please
[12:25] <negocio> is anyone here that can help me?
[12:25] <walter> try to explain
[12:25] <walter> I have a question
[12:26] <negocio> first
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> !ask
[12:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:26] <negocio> y can see webpages with flash content
[12:26] <negocio> i cant see webpages with flash content
[12:26] <negocio> sorry
[12:26] <walter> there is a meta pack for kubuntu desktop to install a LAMP configuration?
[12:27] <negocio> how can i install flashplayer for konqueror
[12:27] <DarkStone_AFK> how do i compile source files
[12:27] <walter> is there a meta pack for kubuntu desktop to install a LAMP configuration?
[12:27] <mezz> hey. Little problem with the Kmail addressbook. I had a crash, corrupted/lost some data inlcuding Kmail addressbook. Now I can't save the addressbook, The error message when I try to save is :"unable to get access for saving the address book resouce". Any ideas?
[12:27] <h3sp4wn> walter: I recommend mod_perl over php - much nicer
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> walter: php is a hack
[12:28] <mezz> DarkStone: goto the source folder in the command line, run "./configure" then "make" then "sudo make install"
[12:28] <walter> yes I know ...but
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> walter: does the p stand for perl - if it does I will help you but not interested in php
[12:28] <negocio> please, help me installing flashplayer in konqueror
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> !flash
[12:29] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:29] <DarkStone> ok
[12:29] <DarkStone> thanks mess
[12:29] <DarkStone> mezz*
[12:30] <geneo93> DarkStone:  did your ip change yet
[12:30] <walter> I want to know if exist a meta-package or some else that install a LAMP configuration
[12:30] <DarkStone> no
[12:30] <DarkStone> geneo93
[12:30] <DarkStone> it works like a charm
[12:30] <geneo93> k
[12:30] <walter> in the server edition there is
[12:32] <walter> howto install LAMP in desktop edition? (I want to know if exist a short way)
[12:33] <h3sp4wn> server and desktop editions use the same repositories
[12:34] <linuxmonkey> server = text mode + base system
[12:34] <walter> ok I know that
[12:35] <walter> but in server editio I hear that I can install LAMP in easy way
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> Install apache mysql-server php5
[12:36] <mezz> can anyone solve my problem? Know anything about the KDE addressbook, maybe I can delete something in .kde?
[12:37] <walter> ok I'll try.. thanks h3sp4wn
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> walter: apache2 sorry if you want php5
[12:37] <walter> a ok
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> walter: You will probably also want phpmyadmin if you don't know about using mysql from the command line
[12:39] <walter> yep
[12:40] <walter> ok thanks ... I have to go
[12:40] <mindspit> does anyone know where is the log file of ISPCONFIG? where is the vhosts file of ISPCONFIG?
[12:40] <walter> bye
[12:41] <server__> i need help with samba, i got it to share a folder, if i don't set any security i can access without problem to this folder from another machine, but i want to create folder permission with user/password, when i click on "ADD USER" no user apears and no way to create one
[12:42] <server__> and in the same time id like to change my workgroup name
[12:45] <oputres> Hello! I'm a first time user of Kubuntu. When I copied my mp3's from my WinXP computer to this one they aren't working. Amorok starts and everything but moves thru the songs in a minute without any sound. I heard that Ogg is the thing for Linux but can I not play mp3 songs in Kubuntu?
[12:46] <oputres> in a second I mean
[12:46] <geneo93> !mp3
[12:46] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:48] <server__> i need help with samba, i got it to share a folder, if i don't set any security i can access without problem to this folder from another machine, but i want to create folder permission with user/password, when i click on "ADD USER" no user apears and no way to create one, and in the same time id like to change my workgroup name
[12:48] <fyrmedic> How do I get two displays to function independantly and with independant resolutions.
[12:50] <oputres> Hmm, that's too bad. I don't mind ogg or anything but my Sony mp3 player will not play anything but mp3's or wma's :(
[12:50] <negocio> i use
[12:51] <negocio> how can i install the pakage flashplugin-nonfree
[12:51] <server__> oputres: i just did it yesturday
[12:52] <negocio> i use
[12:53] <negocio> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:53] <oputres> server_: What did you do? Played mp3s on your Kubuntu?
[12:53] <negocio> but nothing hapend
[12:53] <server__> yes give me a sec i noted it
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> server__: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:56] <Server___> oputres: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list  and add theses lines
[12:56] <Official_C> i am confused.  I have 2 HD's.  I have win xp installed on one HD and kubuntu installed on the ohter HD.  When I boot, the Grub menu shows "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" twice. is this because it is on the MBR on BOTH of the drives?
[12:56] <Official_C> please help
[12:57] <Server___> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:57] <Server___> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:57] <Official_C> btw, i installed WinXP twice
[12:57] <Server___> sudo apt-get update = Update the Repository List
[12:58] <Server___> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:58] <oputres> What software can you recommend for ripping music CD:s into Ogg files?
[12:59] <Server___> just add the two lines begins by deb, and save your file and type the two sudo lines
[12:59] <Official_C> once while linux was installed, and then i installed it again after removing linux first
[12:59] <mcrandello> oputres: I like jripper personally
[12:59] <Official_C> please please help me...sorry if its hard to understand
[01:00] <dom> oputres, go to your system settings and under sound and multimedia, there's an audio CD section.  configure Ogg to the quality you want.  then you can just drag & drop the files right out of konqueror when you insert a cd
[01:00] <Official_C> anyone?
[01:00] <mcrandello> it's a fairly simple interface, although there are tons of frontends for oggenc, and if you want to spend the time learning the command line switches you can do wonders with oggenc itself from the xterm
[01:00] <dom> though if you have a lot of drive space, just use FLAC
[01:00] <Server___> did u do what i said oputres?
[01:01] <Official_C> mcrandello?
[01:01] <Official_C> can you help me?
[01:02] <mcrandello> Official_C: two windows listings in grub?
[01:02] <Official_C> yes
[01:02] <oputres> Cool, thank you guys!
[01:02] <mcrandello> do both go to the same installation of windows?
[01:02] <Official_C> yes
[01:02] <Official_C> so it is not a big problem, i just do not want any problems down the road
[01:02] <Official_C> cause i do not know why this happened
[01:03] <mcrandello> sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:03] <Server___> oputres: is your mp3 working?
[01:03] <Official_C> is it because of the MBR that windows writes to the drive that it is on
[01:03] <geneo93> maybe its the way the drive is partitioned
[01:03] <mcrandello> Official_C: it'll probably be way down at the bottom
[01:04] <Official_C> k, just gimme one sec, thanks
[01:04] <Official_C> my kubuntu is loading up
[01:07] <oputres> Server_: I wrote it down and will try it tomorrow. I'm so tired right now but also so excited over Kubuntu. It seems very nice but it is like when I was learning Windows all over again :)
[01:07] <Official_C> mcrandello: i am at menu.lst
[01:08] <Official_C> and XP is listed twice
[01:08] <mcrandello> you see two identical entries for Windows down at the bottom?
[01:08] <Official_C> once on sda (drive containign windows xp) and once on hda (drive containing kubuntu)
[01:08] <server__> exactly same thing for me 15 years of ms-dos,win,nt and 1 week into kubuntu
[01:08] <mcrandello> hrmm
[01:09] <mcrandello> there's no windows on sda?
[01:09] <Official_C> i'm thinkin, i shoudl erase the entry for the one on hda
[01:09] <mcrandello> don't erase
[01:09] <Official_C> windowsxp IS on sda
[01:09] <mcrandello> just mark out one by using a "#" in front of each line
[01:10] <mcrandello> if it screws anything up you should be able to go in there and remove the "#"s no harm no foul
[01:10] <mcrandello> (I'd save an extra copy in my home dir because I'm paranoid like that though)
[01:10] <Official_C> im just confused about what this means...is it just a grub issue or is WindowsXP listed on both master boot records?
[01:11] <mcrandello> if you had windows on hda but now ubuntu, and the master boot record is on sda...
[01:11] <mcrandello> then it probably never overwrote the mbr on hda when you installed
[01:11] <mcrandello> is what I'm thinking
[01:12] <Official_C> mcrandello: i never had windows on hda
[01:12] <Official_C> only on sda
[01:12] <mcrandello> okay then I'm confused
[01:12] <Official_C> i think i have a MBR on both drives
[01:13] <Official_C> when i select the drive that windows is on to boot (in bios), grub does not show up. it just boots into windows
[01:15] <Official_C> thanks mcrandello for yuor help
[01:15] <mcrandello> okay then I'm still confused, I'm going to say tentatively to comment out one of the windows entries, anyone else feel free to chime in with which one would be better :)
[01:15] <Official_C> yeah, i will try that
[01:16] <Official_C> thanks man
[01:16] <mcrandello> if it doesn't let you get into windows then go back into kubuntu and switch the commented out one
[01:16] <mcrandello> good luck!
[01:16] <geneo93> get rid of both
[01:16] <mcrandello> lol
[01:16] <Official_C> i think i saw you in here yesterday...im gonna add you as a buddy in GAIM if its ok
[01:17] <oputres> Hmm, how do I get into "administrator mode" in the Terminal?
[01:17] <mcrandello> np, I'm just hanging out till someone comes along who can tell me why fglrx hurts me so
[01:17] <geneo93> sudo
[01:17] <mcrandello> oputres: sudo <command>
[01:17] <mcrandello> if you want to stay admin(dangerous) sudo -i
[01:17] <Official_C> lol, wish i could help you but im a newb with that stuff
[01:17] <Official_C> later man
[01:17] <mcrandello> later
[01:19] <oputres> Thanks. I feel so lost right now. I'm looking for a folder that is placed on the desktop but I can't find it via the Terminal. How do I step backwards in the Terminal, you know, like cd..
[01:19] <geneo93> cd /mone/username
[01:19] <geneo93> home
[01:21] <oputres> Aah, thanks. I'm so tired right now, got to sleep. Will contine first time in the morning :) Good night! (It's 1:30 PM in Sweden)
[01:21] <geneo93> am you mean
[01:22] <geneo93> pm past midnight
[01:22] <Hawkwind> Maybe he sleeps during the day and works at night
[01:23] <geneo93> hey it could be after midnight
[01:23] <geneo93> Hawkwind its AM
[01:24] <Hawkwind> I know.  I'm just saying, he might be confused and thought he was going to sleep during the day
[01:24] <geneo93> yeah
[01:24] <geneo93> ubuntu might get you confused after using XP
[01:26] <geneo93> Hawkwind no memory crash in mdv yet after 21 h and 40 m
[01:31] <JordiGH> Hey, how can I remap the apple key so that it behaves like the alt key?
[01:31] <JordiGH> Running the kubuntu livecd on a ppc architecture, of course.
[01:31] <JordiGH> Right now the alt-option key is the one that works like the alt key.
[01:47] <bioticpro>  Looking to buy an Nvidia card... which of these do yall think is best bet?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814127203%2CN82E16814130014%2CN82E16814133149%2CN82E16814164056
[01:51] <deuce868> Is it just me or does superkaramba just eat up cpu/ram?
[01:52] <CaptainMorgan> I eat your ram
[01:54] <r0xz> bioticpro: second one, but a 6600gt with 256MB mem is not much more expensive and is low budget game entry
[01:54] <r0xz> depends what you want though
[01:54] <apokryphos> deuce868: it eats up your ram, yeah
[01:55] <deuce868> naw, the ram isn't so bad since it has 3gb in it, but turning it off went from 47% cpu on a 3.0 P4 to 7% lol
[01:55] <deuce868> new to KDE and it suprised me a bit
[01:59] <bioticpro> r0xz: I don't think I can take advantage of that card, my computer is pretty old, Dell Optiplex GX 260, 1.8 ghz 512 mb ram
[02:02] <r0xz> bioticpro: i think you're right there, i wouldn't do that either... go low and slow on that box ;)
[02:13] <bioticpro> r0xz: so given my spec's, what card do ya recommend?  (Im assuming still one of th 6200s)
[02:18] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> <------ loves kubuntu
[02:19] <r0xz> bioticpro: are you sure about the cpu? ( http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,668796,00.asp )
[02:19] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> now , i could only get the kopete 12 to work
[02:19] <r0xz> because if it's the cpu on the page above i would take a 6600gt 128MB
[02:19] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> if
[02:20] <r0xz> little overkill maybe, yes
[02:21] <linuxmonkey> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd:  i can help ya there
[02:22] <r0xz> and the advantage: you can take the card into a next (selfbuild) system when the conroe enters market
[02:22] <lime4x4> has anyone tried the new 2.17 kernel yet?
[02:23] <deuce868> lime4x4: not yet, but looking forward to seeing if I can get some wireless on my powerbook with it. :-)
[02:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey:  i cant send pms
[02:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: ive tried it out last night,  one was the deb and one i compiled myself but both had the same problems
[02:24] <linuxmonkey> what problem
[02:25] <lime4x4> i was thinking of trying it myself just to c if there is  aperformance gain
[02:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: it would not display any accounts , the app properties didnt work and when hit next for shits and giggles it crashed and krashed kde too
[02:25] <deuce868> lime4x4: there have been a number of people trying it on Webhostingtalk.com and not seen much by way of performance
[02:26] <deuce868> http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=523695
[02:26] <linuxmonkey> odd n0ctuRnaL-fieNd i never had that issue at all
[02:26] <osiris> how do you do a fuzzy search for a package name
[02:26] <lime4x4> deuce thanks i'll check it out
[02:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: ok , send me the link to the deb you have used and ill install it , ill show you the screenshot of whats going on
[02:27] <linuxmonkey> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: can u see pm's?
[02:27] <bioticpro> r0xz: yeah, youre right, its more like a 2Ghz cpu
[02:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: i can see pms but can reply
[02:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: cant
[02:28] <linuxmonkey> are you on 64 bit or 32 bit?
[02:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: i use 64bit, i got the link
[02:29] <linuxmonkey> get the right one then
[02:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: i got the right one
[02:30] <linuxmonkey> that was packaged by a very good friend of mine and none of us are having issues with it
[02:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: _amd64.deb
[02:30] <linuxmonkey> yep
[02:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: i think that friend gave me the link to it lastnight
[02:30] <linuxmonkey> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: who was it?
[02:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: dont remember  now , chile or chan something?/ not sure
[02:32] <linuxmonkey> he's sleeping right now. should be up in the next hour or so
[02:32] <bioticpro> r0xz: Im looking to spend under $100 for a card, I think 6600 gt are way more...
[02:32] <r0xz> bioticpro: this is not really the right channel for it, but you have to look at what you're gaming, what the future plans are at the moment and try to mix that in a choice. That's about all i think you'll need while taking advise in a shop.
[02:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: ive talked to him about the errors , he coulnt figure out what was wrong
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> I wouldn't recommend using random debs unless you can build them with debuild -uc -us (makes sure they haven't used that checkinstall junk)
[02:33] <r0xz> yeah there're more, like 130 euro
[02:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: so apt-get -i .deb?  right?
[02:33] <linuxmonkey> no
[02:34] <linuxmonkey> sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[02:34] <Benner> i need help with samba, here i am: i setup samba with user type security, i did some trick like smbpasswd username... into my XP machines, when i click on the folder it ask me to change my password because the domain account is expired... help!!  what i want is each user have is own password and the file who are permit will appears
[02:34] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: ohh , ok im still trying to memorise the commands
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: What is the location of the deb you are trying to install ?
[02:35] <r0xz> bioticpro: personally, i would wait for the conroe and buy a whole new system with a mainstream videocard. These conroes are very sexy :p
[02:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: /home/user
[02:36] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn: he's installing kopete 0.12
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> Is it built with checkinstall or properly ?
[02:37] <bioticpro> r0xz: whats a conroe?
[02:37] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> h3sp4wn:  i compiled it from source lastnight , but it didnt work properly
[02:38] <pestilence> i just bought a hard drive with the idea of putting in an external enclosure.  anybody have any advice?  i'm looking at this one:
[02:38] <pestilence> http://www.egoodz.com/product.asp?pf_id=3500SEAPRED
[02:39] <bioticpro> r0xz: this? http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2770
[02:40] <Benner> anybody have a clue for my question
[02:42] <r0xz> bioticpro: sorry, that page takes me to .zipzoomfly
[02:43] <r0xz> can't read it
[02:43] <pestilence> Benner, what is it
[02:43] <linuxmonkey> hey n0ctuRnaL-fieNd what version of KDE you running
[02:43] <bioticpro> r0xz: first link on google "conroe video card"
[02:43] <osiris> anyone know the proper package name for giblib, so i can apt-get it ?
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> osiris: try 'sudo apt-get install giblib1'
[02:44] <Benner> i need help with samba, here i am: i setup samba with user type security, i did some trick like smbpasswd username... into my XP machines, when i click on the folder it ask me to change my password because the domain account is expired... help!!  what i want is each user have is own password and the file who are permit will appears
[02:44] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: 3.5.2
[02:44] <linuxmonkey> there's yout problem
[02:44] <osiris> thx CheeseBurgerMan.  that did it
[02:44] <pestilence> Benner, is the username on your linux machine the same as on the windows one?
[02:44] <jinho> I have my comp in a dual boot mode right now, but I'd like it to have Windows boot first automatically (since my dad needs to use it) as well as lower the time needed to wait to 3 seconds- does anyone know how to do this?
[02:44] <linuxmonkey> upgrade to 3.5.3 n0ctuRnaL-fieNd
[02:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can i do it through apt get?
[02:45] <Benner> pestilence: no, but i add a user with the same name in the linux machine, like we did in xp sharing
[02:45] <linuxmonkey> you got to add repositories and update and it will give you the option yo upgrade
[02:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: which repo?
[02:45] <r0xz> bioticpro: no no conroe is het net intel cpu that wil be released next month if i am right. But it requires a new motherboard and ram, so you're probably have to spend much more if you go that route
[02:46] <linuxmonkey> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[02:46] <r0xz> *new
[02:46] <pestilence> Benner, so you have an account on the linux machine with the same username?
[02:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: k, ty
[02:46] <bioticpro> r0xz: yeah, Im gonna wait a while to get a new box, prob get an AMD64 when the get cheaper
[02:46] <jinho> I have my comp in a dual boot mode right now, but I'd like it to have Windows boot first automatically (since my dad needs to use it) as well as lower the time needed to wait to 3 seconds- does anyone know how to do this? [I hate repeating myself, but...] 
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: You'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:47] <Benner> my linux machine i want to use it as a file server, i creater a main user "SERVER", and i added a username "Benner"  like in my xp machine, to be able to add it from samba
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Be careful -- if you do it wrong you won't be able to boot.
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: It's somewhere around line 19 -- it's very clearly marked. :)
[02:49] <Chongo> so does anybody know how to get k3b working in 6.06? i think that the permissions are set wrong.
[02:49] <pestilence> Benner, ok, and then you did something like "sudo smbpasswd -a Benner" ?
[02:49] <jinho> cheeseburgerman:is it a matter of just reversing the orders?
[02:49] <Chongo> when i sudo k3b, it burns fine, but normally it doesn't
[02:49] <Chongo> i think k3bsetup only gives root the right priviledges?
[02:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> Whoops, mis-read your problem. Let me see.
[02:49] <Chongo> how do i change that?
[02:50] <Benner> pestilence: yes, he asked me a password, but not sure how to configure the samba, he ask me users from the mnt share and also user from samba settings
[02:50] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: will changing the order do it- or is it more sophisticated than that?
[02:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: lemme pastebin mine and highlight around where to change.
[02:51] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: kk
[02:51] <r0xz> bioticpro: in my view, upgrading the videocard in your system is throwing money away, but when you can get a cheap one to get another year ahead it might not be a bad deal. (i think it's either buying a card to take into a new system in a few months, or put your hand on cheap one)
[02:51] <pestilence> Benner, did you configure by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[02:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is that a known issue that adept fails to open when sudo have been used recently?
[02:52] <Benner> pestilence: i tried it too yes... i guest my settings are ok
[02:52] <Benner> i can't paste here too much lines
[02:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> be back soon
[02:53] <pestilence> Benner, what is in your /var/log/samba logs?
[02:53] <pestilence> that is really what will help you
[02:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/722363
[02:55] <Benner> i have log.0.0.0.0 log.69.69.69.2 log.69.69.69.3 log.benner log.benner.desktop and couples more
[02:55] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: There seems to be a problem with the server...It wont load...
[02:56] <Benner> 2006/06/20 16:44:39, 0]  auth/pampass.c:smb_pam_accountcheck(781)
[02:56] <Benner>   smb_pam_accountcheck: PAM: Account Validation Failed - Rejecting User benner!
[02:57] <pestilence> Benner, theres yer problem :)
[02:58] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: Is there another pastebin you could please use...It wont load on the one you gave me
[02:58] <pestilence> Benner, what username did you add?  Benner or benner
[02:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: I'm working on it.
[02:58] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: I really appreciate it!
[02:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: The regular pastebin isn't working either.
[02:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: http://cheeseburgerman.net/hosted/menu.html <--- The bold line you should change.
[02:59] <Benner> pestilence: benner
[03:00] <pestilence> Benner, this is interesting, i didn't think smb used pam
[03:00] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: O cool (thanks for the extra effort)- but I'm still a bit confused, does yours have Windows loaded first?
[03:00] <Benner> pestilence: if i go "kdesu kcontrol" goes into samba, i can add user from the share and the're also a usertab in the main windows...
[03:01] <pestilence> Benner, did you set a password for the account benner with "sudo passwd benner"?
[03:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: No, but if you change that number it will change which one boots by default.
[03:02] <Benner> pestilence: hmm no
[03:02] <Benner> let me try
[03:02] <pestilence> Benner, do you have "encrypt passwords = true" in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[03:02] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: Which number is this?
[03:02] <rigonatti> hi all !! Im using Gnome (UBUNTU DAPPER) and I wanna change to KDE ..can I do that without losing my installed app ?
[03:02] <pestilence> Benner, if it's using PAM to authenticate, the password should be the same as the system password
[03:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: Dunno, depends on your setup.
[03:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> rigonatti: Yep. Just run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[03:03] <rigonatti> CheeseBurgerMan ... my hardware configs will be intact and configs too ?
[03:03] <ryanakca_> heeeheeee...
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Everything remains the same -- it just installs KDE. The only thing that should change is that your menu will have a lot more apps in it.
[03:03] <Benner> i have this line encrypt passwords = yes
[03:03] <ryanakca_> I'm
[03:04] <rigonatti> CheeseBurgerMan ... and will complete remove the gnome ?
[03:04] <jinho> CheeseBurgerMan: gotcha- thanks
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, it won't remove gnome.
[03:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> jinho: Not a problem.
[03:04] <pestilence> Benner, that should be fine, did setting the password fix things?
[03:04] <ryanakca> heck... using telnet as irc client is hard!
[03:05] <pestilence> ryanakca, oh come on, it's easy
[03:05] <ryanakca> pestilence: the line keeps scrolling before I finish typing!
[03:06] <pestilence> well that's odd.
[03:06] <ryanakca_>  Very!
[03:06] <Benner> hmm well it now opens the folder , but i cant write, i think the folder is set to root only
[03:07] <ryanakca_> very!
[03:07] <pestilence> ryanakca, use irssi
[03:07] <ryanakca> hehe... sorry...
[03:07] <ryanakca> I do... and konversation
[03:07] <pestilence> ryanakca, i love irssi
[03:07] <ryanakca> I'm just trying telnet... irssi is the bestest!
[03:07] <SurfnKid> yeop
[03:07] <ryanakca> Especially with the nicklist script & a really cool theme
[03:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: yup , it works now , so it only works with latest kde, thanks a lot
[03:08] <linuxmonkey> np :)
[03:09] <Vose> hi
[03:09] <SurfnKid> hi
[03:10] <Vose> I tryed adding "deb" location to my Adept and they were wrong so now Adept will not open so I tryed going to /etc/apt and changeing sources.list in kate but it will not let me save it is there something I am doing wrong?
[03:11] <SurfnKid> do you have write priv?
[03:12] <Vose> I am using UI how do I get the write privilage?
[03:12] <Benner> pestilence: yes it's now working but the folder is read only
[03:13] <SurfnKid> is kate an editor?  use gedit, vi be sure to do it in sudo mode so you can write to the file
[03:13] <pestilence> Benner, well, there are two things to that.  one, you have to have it set to read only = no, and you have to have the correct permissions as the user benner to write to that folder
[03:13] <ralph> HI all. Just installed 6.06 and having problems in updating to kde 3.5.3 and getting libxine-extracodecs. everything seems to break packages or is not available. Can anyone help?
[03:13] <Benner> pestilence: in the base settings, the cases browseable and avaible are checked, and Read Only and public are not
[03:13] <Vose> kate the editor so use the terninal?
[03:14] <SurfnKid> yes but make sure you can write to the file, in Permissions
[03:14] <pestilence> Benner, ok, so the user benner most likely can't write to that folder
[03:14] <Vose> what is the command to do that/
[03:14] <pestilence> you have to fix that with a chmod or a chown
[03:14] <Benner> yes exactr
[03:15] <osiris> or just sudo kate, and edit the file
[03:16] <Vose> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.
[03:17] <Vose> it gave me this error?
[03:17] <Vose> I did the sudo kate?
[03:17] <SurfnKid> Vose: try this  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:17] <SurfnKid> Vose: its a different editor but itll let you open the file and write
[03:18] <Vose> SurfnKid it said "sudo: gedit: command not found"
[03:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Vose: 'kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:18] <SurfnKid> not sure the version you're running
[03:20] <Vose> I think it is brezzy
[03:20] <Benner> pestilence: what is the difference between UID and GID?
[03:20] <pestilence> Benner, one is user id, one is group id?
[03:20] <SurfnKid> Im not sure if gedit is available by default
[03:20] <SurfnKid> Vose: you know what to change?
[03:20] <pestilence> Benner, if you are going to just change the owner to benner, just do chmod -R benner:benner /path/to/folder
[03:21] <Benner> Benner user is UID 1001 and GID 111
[03:21] <SurfnKid> Vose: use vi or vim
[03:21] <Vose> SurfnKid wird nothing not error not even the ...:~$ just balnk
[03:21] <pestilence> Vose, or nano if you are a newb ;)
[03:21] <Vose> I am a newb
[03:21] <SurfnKid> Vose: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <pestilence> if you are newb, vi is not for you
[03:22] <pestilence> Vose, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <SurfnKid> use INSERT to change things   when you're done press INSERT again. then :w to save and :q to exit
[03:23] <SurfnKid> pestilence: how come he aint geting gedit, is that not installed by default
[03:23] <pestilence> no clue
[03:23] <pestilence> maybe not in kubuntu
[03:23] <SurfnKid> pestilence: my ubuntu had it
[03:23] <SurfnKid> weird
[03:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> does anyone know the wwebsite of the guy that makes his own headphohe amps , sells em on ebay for like 65 bucks , he used to put them in like mint boxes etc
[03:24] <Vose> :w and :q just added a ":q and :w" to the text?
[03:24] <SurfnKid> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: google it
[03:24] <azzco> hi there
[03:24] <pestilence> SurfnKid, yes, but ubuntu and kubuntu instal different package sets.  i think "kate" is the kubuntu editor
[03:24] <SurfnKid> Vose: ok... press ESC once
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Vose: Erase, press Esc, and then type ':wq'
[03:24] <SurfnKid> it should let you see :w at the bottom
[03:25] <Vose> ok that worked
[03:25] <Vose> ok cool adept is opening up now
[03:26] <SurfnKid> cool now you know vi :P
[03:26] <Official_C> is there a good reason to create a FAT32 "share partition for my Linux and Windows
[03:26] <Vose> thank you guy
[03:26] <Official_C> cause i know i can just mount ntfs filesystems in linux
[03:26] <azzco> I'm a newb at linux and kubuntu and was told by a freind of mine that I should try to install wine...can someone help me a bit maybe?
[03:27] <Official_C> anyone know if there are any advantages of doing this>
[03:27] <Official_C> ?
[03:28] <jmichaelx> a few weeks ago i was having issues with kubuntu, and decided to re-install... the only problem is, i accidentally installed it to a different partition than the first installation, and now i have both. i would like to delete all of the files from the first installation. can i just reformat that partition, and delete the lines in grub?
[03:29] <Official_C> jmichaelx: yes...but i recommend you comment the lines out in grub first
[03:30] <jmichaelx> Official_C: commenting them out would be better than deleting them?
[03:30] <Official_C> yes, just in case you mess up
[03:30] <jmichaelx> Official_C: i probably will, lol
[03:30] <Official_C> unless you are totally sure what you are doing
[03:30] <Official_C> oh, ok
[03:30] <Official_C> lol, in that case, comment them
[03:31] <jmichaelx> Official_C: if i do mess up, will i still be able to get to gub?
[03:31] <Official_C> even make a backup of menu.lst  if you are really paranoid
[03:31] <jmichaelx> grub*
[03:32] <Official_C> most likely, im sure at worst you would only make a minor mistake
[03:32] <Official_C> but the menu.lst file is pretty straightforward
[03:32] <Official_C> im sure you'll be fine
[03:32] <Hhhhh> is there a way to set the default WM that kdm defaults to?
[03:32] <DrBair> wow... 3.5.3 is quite a good deal faster than 3.5.2
[03:33] <DrBair> anyone know how to make the system tray icons stack?
[03:33] <Official_C> as a matter of fact, try just reformatting and see if grub updates itself
[03:34] <Official_C> cause i mean, it updated itself when you installed, so...
[03:34] <Official_C> jmichaelx, you follow?
[03:36] <jmichaelx> Official_C: i just finished commenting the lines out
[03:37] <jmichaelx> Official_C: but yes, i follow
[03:37] <Official_C> ok
[03:37] <Official_C> well, give it a go...if you wanna be extra safe you can try just reformatting and seeing if grub updates itself
[03:38] <geneo93> grub updates if you tell it to sudo update-grub
[03:38] <jmichaelx> Official_C: another question, why would grub start listing the same installation twice? that is what it does with the second installation now, and i don't know why
[03:38] <Official_C> because you have it installed on two partitions so it wrote twice to the master boot record i believe
[03:39] <Official_C> i actaully had a similar thing happen to me today
[03:39] <jmichaelx> Official_C: no, i mean the second installation is listed twice. the first installation is also listed
[03:39] <Official_C> i wish i could see you menu.lst file
[03:39] <jmichaelx> so confusing lol
[03:40] <jmichaelx> yeah, well i may have to show it to you in a bit lol. i am going to reboot now and see how it goes (or doesn't go:-D )
[03:40] <Official_C> jmichaelx: that is pretty weird though, that it would list the second install twice
[03:40] <Official_C> why dont you send it to me now
[03:40] <jmichaelx> Official_C: i think it is weird, too.....
[03:41] <Official_C> if you want
[03:41] <Colage> Can anyone recommend a partition editor, preferably for KDE?
[03:41] <jmichaelx> Official_C: how do i copy it?
[03:41] <Official_C> id be more than happy to look at it
[03:41] <jmichaelx> Colage: gparted is good
[03:41] <geneo93> qparted
[03:41] <Official_C> just click on my name
[03:41] <Colage> Thanks
[03:41] <Official_C> right click
[03:41] <Dasnipa`> whats wrong with fdisk :(
[03:41] <Official_C> and send file
[03:41] <Colage> I'm not that smart =p
[03:41] <jmichaelx> gparted even has a live CD that you can use instead of partition magic
[03:42] <Official_C> jmichaelx, what irc program are you using?
[03:42] <jmichaelx> Official_C: konversation
[03:43] <jmichaelx> Official_C: how do i make menu.lst a file that can be sent to someone?
[03:43] <geneo93> !paste
[03:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:44] <geneo93> just paste it there
[03:44] <Official_C> just make a copy of it
[03:44] <Official_C> put it in your home folder or something
[03:44] <jmichaelx> geneo93: what i mean is, how do i even copy the menu.lst?
[03:44] <frederic_> bye
[03:45] <geneo93> what do you have it open with
[03:45] <Official_C> jmichael: copy it into your home folder
[03:45] <rigonatti> hi all .... I was using Gnome (ubuntu) then...I run sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop  but ....after restart ..still with gnome
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> rigonatti: At the login screen click on Session, and then press KDE. After that, it should log into KDE.
[03:46] <Official_C> geneo: you wouldnt happen to know if its possible to copy ntfs files to a linux partition once the ntfs partition is mounted
[03:46] <Official_C> would oyu?
[03:46] <geneo93> rigonatti:  look at menu below login screen
[03:47] <jmichaelx> brb
[03:47] <Official_C> geneo93: sorry can you look at my previous message
[03:47] <Official_C> geneo93: left otu part of your name by accident
[03:47] <geneo93> what kinda files
[03:47] <Official_C> any files, like mp3 or doc
[03:48] <geneo93> mp3's yes
[03:48] <Official_C> is it actually possible to copy them? or can i only read them?
[03:48] <geneo93> copy them if you want
[03:48] <Official_C> what kinda files wouldnt i be able to copy?
[03:49] <geneo93> ones that wont work in linux
[03:49] <Official_C> i would still be able to copy them though
[03:49] <geneo93> maily exe files
[03:49] <Official_C> technically
[03:49] <geneo93> yes
[03:49] <Official_C> they are still just data and could be copied, just not recognized by linux, right?
[03:49] <Official_C> ok
[03:49] <geneo93> yes
[03:50] <geneo93> copy the whole drive if you want
[03:50] <Official_C> so there is not really any good reason to add a FAT32 partition as a "share" partition
[03:50] <Official_C> between win and lin
[03:51] <geneo93> well if collect thing in linux you may want to use in windows i would
[03:51] <Nod51> I am trying to have kdm start up multiple displays, one on vt07 and one on vt08, but I want the vt08 one to hot have TVOUT. I have this working by using "X -layout single :1", but there is no longer a Xservers but kdmrc. Anyone know how to set this up in kdmrc?
[03:51] <Official_C> hmm
[03:52] <Official_C> im trying to thinnk if i would even want to use anything in windows that i collect in linux
[03:52] <Official_C> possibly
[03:52] <RawSewage> what
[03:52] <Official_C> ill drop a couple gigs for a FAT
[03:52] <DrBair> Nod51: kdmrc is a mess IMO... its possible but a pain to figure out
[03:52] <Official_C> cant hurt
[03:53] <Nod51> DrBair: how can I get Xservers to work again?
[03:53] <Nod51> I understood Xservers
[03:53] <geneo93> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <jmichaelx> Official_C: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16151
[03:54] <DrBair> Nod51: I really don't remember any more
[03:54] <Nod51> kdmrc seems to make a simple thing complex is you want to do anything other than the norm
[03:54] <DrBair> I just remember it being a nightmare compared to gdm
[03:54] <Nod51> ok well I will google another couple of hours, thanks
[03:55] <cenobyte> is it possible to play .avi or .xvid files under kubuntu dapper 6.06 64 bit
[03:55] <jmichaelx> Official_C: i have already commented out everything i do not want
[03:56] <DrBair> cenobyte: should be
[03:56] <cenobyte> i should be able to do it with kaffeine right
[03:57] <DrBair> with the proper codecs
[03:57] <cenobyte> ok thnxs for the help
[03:57] <cenobyte> i just wanted to make sure before installing the codecs
[03:57] <geneo93> mplayer is best
[03:57] <cenobyte> ok
[03:58] <DrBair> libxine-extracodecs has a lot of useful codecs
[03:59] <SurfnKid> anyone know a good USB Wifi Adapter based on the Prism Chipset?
[04:00] <jmichaelx> Official_C: i am guessing that you are still out there....
[04:00] <jmichaelx> man, i ran update manager today, and opera no longer works
[04:02] <geneo93> hint open it in terminal and see what it says
[04:04] <jmichaelx> geneo93: ok, opera is working, but apparently not with the panel icon
[04:05] <maltron> okay... I resumed from hibernate on my lappy, and now my usb mouse and keyboard don't work.  Is there a way to refresh the usb or something?
[04:05] <brizz> !nvidia
[04:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <jmichaelx> Official_C: you there?
[04:06] <jmichaelx> ok i am going to reboot and see how much damage i did to gub
[04:06] <geneo93> not if the keyboard dont work
[04:06] <jmichaelx> grub*
[04:06] <maltron> geneo93: the keyboard on the lappy still works, just the usb one doesn't
[04:07] <maltron> any idea why this might have happened?
[04:07] <maltron> normally resuming from hibernate is fine
[04:07] <azzco> okay does anyone know how to install wine? been reading a tut and got some help from a swedish guy...still can't get it to work
[04:07] <geneo93> try ctrl alt backspace
[04:07] <Official_C> jmichaelx: sorry yes im still here
[04:07] <Official_C> any luck?
[04:08] <rigonatti> does anyone here use Pocket PC sync with KDE?
[04:08] <maltron> geneo93: right - restart X - I'll give it a go
[04:11] <maltron> geneo93: okay, restarted X (I killed gdm from a text console) and the problem persists
[04:11] <maltron> although I just discovered that the third usb port, the one I never use, works
[04:12] <maltron> any other ideas?
[04:13] <Official_C> geez, i've reinstalled kubuntu 2 times today and windows xp once:(
[04:13] <Official_C> its OS day
[04:15] <mcrandello> just think of how fast you'll be able to do it in the future though, that's good resume' fodder
[04:15] <Official_C> what do you mean resume fodder?
[04:16] <mcrandello> Skills: Can install Linux in under 10 minutes, Windows XP in under 30 with minor cursing
[04:16] <geneo93> well you must not have the drive partitioned right then
[04:18] <Official_C> mcrandello: lol, never really thought about that
[04:18] <ubuntu> Evening All
[04:18] <ubuntu> Anybody running an ATI X1900-XTX card?
[04:18] <maltron> geneo93: was that intended for me?  If so, what's the drive partitioning got to do with usb?  If not, forget I said anything...
[04:18] <Official_C> geneo93: i have been trying to get my partitions just right
[04:18] <mcrandello> When they ask _why_ you can do this just shrug and say "rollouts". Never tell the truth :)
[04:18] <Official_C> you are right
[04:18] <maltron> okay obviously not...
[04:19] <Official_C> lol, i think he was talking to me?
[04:19] <mcrandello> ubuntu: I'm running a 200m
[04:19] <Official_C> i dont know
[04:19] <maltron> yeah, I think so...
[04:19] <Official_C> rollouts?
[04:19] <Official_C> lol, sorry
[04:19] <mcrandello> like when you have to install a bunch of machines
[04:19] <Official_C> oh ok
[04:20] <geneo93> Official_C:  you have two windows partitions showing in grub right
[04:20] <Official_C> nah geneo, i fixed everything
[04:20] <Official_C> im all set
[04:20] <Official_C> thanks
[04:20] <ubuntu> I've been fighting the 8.25 driver since Friday now.. I've loaded from live 5 times now and tried about every howto I could find to get a combination of things that seemed to work.
[04:21] <lowtech> i needed to change my ip address, how do i restart the network ?
[04:21] <mcrandello> I just got it to work I think
[04:21] <mcrandello> What's it doing to ya?
[04:22] <maltron> lowtech:  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:22] <maltron> oh, you'll need to sudo it
[04:22] <ubuntu> well I can load the dist specific driver and check my xorg.conf to make sure that the correct identies are there and reboot to a black screen that hangs the whole system
[04:22] <lowtech> maltron: thanks
[04:22] <maltron> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:22] <lowtech> gotcha
[04:23] <ubuntu> I've seen a few places where folks say to disable the 24 bit defaults and tried that w/no joy
[04:23] <mcrandello> ubuntu: try <ctrl><alt><F1> and login to the console...
[04:23] <ubuntu> and the agplock setting as well
[04:23] <Official_C> sweet, my system is set up just how i want it, finally...now i can go eat dinner
[04:23] <Official_C> lol, obsession sucks
[04:23] <mcrandello> then "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:23] <mcrandello> and see what it says
[04:24] <ubuntu> I've looked at some posting saying that dapper from the latest live disk should take the 8.25 outa the box
[04:24] <ubuntu> I saw that it had id'd the 7249 chip 1 time and then not another time hehe
[04:25] <Official_C> im out, be back later...thanks anyone that helped me
[04:25] <ubuntu> whats the command to mount my hda1 root from live?
[04:26] <maltron> ubuntu: i think it's sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[04:26] <DrBair> eh..
[04:26] <DrBair> don't want to mount it there
[04:27] <maltron> why's that?
[04:27] <DrBair> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 or something to that effect
[04:27] <mcrandello> mkdir /media/hda1 (or whatever you wanna call it)
[04:27] <DrBair> theres probably stuff already in /mnt
[04:27] <mcrandello> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:27] <maltron> fair enough
[04:27] <maltron> yeah, live cd
[04:27] <maltron> good point
[04:28] <ubuntu> ty ty gonna check out whats be happening in the log
[04:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> does amarok have a EQ plugin ,
[04:32] <linuxmonkey> amarok has a built in equalizer
[04:32] <linuxmonkey> tools-->equalizer
[04:35] <ubuntu>  mcrandello you understand the xorg.0.log results for the most part?
[04:36] <ubuntu> I see 3 (WW) sections in it
[04:37] <ubuntu> make that 4
[04:38] <earHertz> I started my kubuntu box, saw teh kubuntu start screen listing teh services being started, burt now I have a black screen. samb's working, and I can ssh in, but I have no gui. what do I do?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> earHertz: can You login on the command line?
[04:41] <earHertz> via ssh, not from the box itself
[04:41] <DaSkreech> earHertz: Ah.. Umm
[04:41] <earHertz> kdm is running
[04:41] <DaSkreech> What does Alt+Ctrl+F1 give you?
[04:41] <earHertz> nothing
[04:42] <DaSkreech> Same with F2 or F3 I take it?
[04:42] <earHertz> yweah, there's nothing there
[04:43] <earHertz> it went to black at some point, I rebooted, nd it's back up but still black. no x seesion as far as I can tell
[04:43] <earHertz> do I kill -9 kdm?
[04:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> does amarok have a EQ plugin ,
[04:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxmonkey: didnt see your response , thanks
[04:46] <linuxmonkey> amarok has a built in equalizer
[04:46] <linuxmonkey> tools-->equalizer
[04:46] <linuxmonkey> :)
[04:48] <DaSkreech> earHertz: Yeah
[04:48] <earHertz> did no good
[04:52] <david__> hello world!
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Good now we move to pointers
[04:53] <david__> Java has pointers?
[04:54] <david__> help
[04:57] <earHertz> what  do I do to get kubuntu to give me a command line on restart, rather than starting kdm?
[04:59] <dartmolx> earHertz: try editing /etc/inittab
[05:02] <brizz> I just installed the nvidia driver in two steps
[05:04] <osiris> earHertz, i just wrote a how-to on that
[05:05] <osiris> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0
[05:05] <earHertz> osiris: url?
[05:05] <osiris> that should shed some light on it for ya
[05:07] <earHertz> thanks
[05:07] <osiris> no problem
[05:07] <earHertz> is there a way I can just shut down any wiondow managhers?
[05:07] <osiris> let me know if it works out well for ya
[05:07] <earHertz> like startx but stopx instead?
[05:08] <osiris> not that im aware of, but im sure there is a way
[05:08] <brizz> earHertz: maybe gdm stop
[05:08] <brizz> then ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:08] <brizz> MAYBE
[05:13] <r0xz> how to convert a po file to binary mo so i can test it out?
[05:13] <earHertz> osiris: your initab doesn't look like mine
[05:14] <osiris> thats just a small section of it
[05:14] <DaSkreech> no 0.2
[05:14] <earHertz> yeah, but I don'ty  have id:5:initdefault:, I have id:2:initdefault:
[05:15] <osiris> earHertz, mine was originaly 2
[05:15] <osiris> most systems are at 5 by default though
[05:16] <osiris> just change it to 3, and follow the rest of the guide
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Well then you are in run level 2
[05:17] <earHertz> what run level gives me a non-x shell?
[05:18] <dr_willis> you could just stop the kdm service
[05:18] <dr_willis> :)
[05:18] <earHertz> dr_willis: I triend kill -9  on it. how shoudl I stop it?
[05:18] <dr_willis> its a service dude. :P
[05:19] <dr_willis>  sudo /etc/init.dkdm stop
[05:19] <dr_willis>  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:19] <dr_willis> a service respawns if it dies in a odd way. :P or at least it should
[05:19] <earHertz> Thanks.
[05:20] <earHertz> Ok, I still have a black screen. what do I do I get somethingon it?
[05:24] <dr_willis> ya could try alt-ctrl-F1
[05:25] <dr_willis> F1 through F6 = consoles, F7 = back to X
[05:26] <earHertz> That gets me the grub loader, which keeps loading teh graphical loader
[05:28] <dr_willis> Hmm.. try alt-ctrl-f2
[05:29] <earHertz> notjhing. I can get in by ssh only
[05:29] <earHertz> in as ssh, what can I do?
[05:30] <dr_willis> i think its time to reboot the box. :p
[05:30] <earHertz> ok, and then do what?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: How Goes?
[05:43] <keith_> any suggestions on .m4a players? I am trying to stream down some spae music from http://spacemusic.libsyn.com/ but amaroK can't seemto handle it
[05:50] <therumble> KDE is retarded
[05:51] <therumble> why would someone take the beautiful gnome ubuntu and screw it all up
[05:51] <therumble> i can't understand
[05:51] <Snake> whats that got to do with KDE?
[05:51] <therumble> everthang
[05:51] <Snake> thang eh?
[05:52] <therumble> yes, thang
[05:52] <therumble> all-encompassing
[05:52] <maltron> keith, I'm not sure what .m4a is but try mplayer.  It's awesomely difficult to get working, but seems to do everything
[05:52] <Hobbsee> therumble: we could say the same thing about gnome, really.  but dont flame.
[05:52] <Snake> therumble: Why not take your rant to techrant.pastebin.com and save us your bitching?
[05:52] <therumble> vlc can probably play it
[05:52] <dr_willis> vlc may be abme to handle .m4a   let me chedk the url
[05:52] <therumble> but seriously, i'm just freakin bored
[05:53] <therumble> don't take it seriously
[05:54] <maltron> recently I've been using mplayer to watch and save wma and real player streams, which I think you're not supposed to be able to do, or something...
[05:54] <dr_willis> some wma wont work. :P
[05:54] <maltron> there's a browser plugin for it too
[05:54] <dr_willis> i think we need more video codecs!
[05:54] <maltron> hehehe
[05:55] <maltron> i found that mplayer works better when you compile from source
[05:55] <dr_willis> my browser just tried to display the .m4a file...
[05:55] <maltron> the precompiled ubuntu one seems to bee missing some things
[05:55] <keith_> I think I have a more fundamental problem with amaroK, my sound is working, I get sounds for desktop events and what not, but when I stream audio amaroK is not displaying anything in the equalizer and I have no audible output
[05:57] <maltron> keith_ : I have the same problem - it seems to come and go.  I assume it's to do with whether the stream is active or not, because I managed to get it working with one stream once, and then it didn't work last time i tried
[06:03] <elknof3> hello
[06:04] <elknof3> does anyone knows how to configure amule?????'
[06:07] <wthww> join #OpenBSD
[06:15] <dr_willis> when in doubt go to the programs home page. :P
[06:24] <keith_> vlc works thanks folks, I will work on amaroK streaming some other time I guess
[06:25] <Ashex> So, I'm wondering
[06:25] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:25] <Ashex> is there any way at all for linux to still play music even after the harddrive with th emusic has been removed?
[06:25] <Ashex> Because that's what it's doing
[06:26] <dr_willis> i would guess a confused user.. at first hand.. :P
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Ashex: You shut down?
[06:26] <dr_willis> you refering to an ide hard drive? or usb drive?
[06:26] <Ashex> No, I pulled it out of the case with my mind powers
[06:26] <Ashex> ide hard drive
[06:27] <Ashex> I've been listening to music for the past 30 minutes, and the hard drive with the music is inside my laptop bag
[06:27] <dr_willis> you have a hot plugable ide drive?
[06:27] <Ashex> nah
[06:28] <Ashex> I'm just going to ignore the problem and continue listening to music
[06:29] <dr_willis> works for me.
[06:30] <elknof3> hi everybody
[06:30] <elknof3> can someone help me configuring amule??
[06:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> u still use emule? thats so 90s
[06:39] <elknof3> lol...   im just dont have the hability to install limewire...
[06:39] <elknof3> i did as on breezy but didnt work out...   so im trying with amule...
[06:40] <elknof3> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, or if you know of some how-to limewire would be awesome...
[06:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !limewire
[06:43] <ubotu> A popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.
[06:44] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> elknof3: got it?
[06:44] <Ashex> i never got java working
[06:44] <Ashex> makes me sad :(
[06:44] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !java
[06:45] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:45] <Ashex> Yep, I tried that
[06:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> whats the problem?
[06:45] <Ashex> There was no change whatsoever
[06:46] <Ashex> I'm still asked to install java with anything that needs java
[06:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> let me do it and see if it works
[06:46] <elknof3> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, yeah, and i think java isnt working on me too...
[06:48] <robotgeek> Ashex: enable multiverse, and install sun-java5-bin
[06:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> did u get the agreement to pop up?
[06:49] <Ashex> robotgeek: I do have multiverse enabled and I've installed sun-java5-bin
[06:49] <robotgeek> Ashex: then what is the issue?
[06:50] <elknof3> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, no i dont have the agreement pop up
[06:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> elknof3: did u get it when it was installing?
[06:50] <Ashex> robotgeek: java isn't detected by anything
[06:51] <Ashex> Ha, nevermind
[06:51] <elknof3> i think is just extract it and run... isn't it??
[06:51] <RawSewage> you have to enable the Agreement page
[06:51] <Ashex> I reinstall the java package
[06:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yup
[06:52] <RawSewage> I forgot how though
[06:52] <elknof3> so what agreement page??
[06:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> and then is sais something you have to set which java to use as default
[06:52] <Ashex> on another subject
[06:52] <orient2000> could not get sun-java5-bin I do have univ and muliuniv the package is not there
[06:52] <RawSewage> !agreement
[06:52] <Ashex> what would cause the error on lines 12-16? http://pastebin.com/722669
[06:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about agreement
[06:52] <RawSewage> !tos
[06:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about tos
[06:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> elknof3: that agreement will be inside the command window
[06:52] <crimsun> orient2000: you don't have multiverse enabled, then
[06:53] <RawSewage> !termsofservice
[06:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about termsofservice
[06:53] <orient2000> how to enable multiuniverse?
[06:53] <crimsun> orient2000: you mean, multiverse, and see the query
[06:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> be beack in a sec
[06:54] <orient2000> yes multiverse
[06:55] <keith_> !multiverse
[06:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[06:56] <Ashex> bah, I'll just continue to ignore that odd error
[06:56] <elknof3> i think i just dont have that repo...  for sun-java5-bin   even i have activated all of them
[06:57] <SurfnKid> time to get some sleep, so cyas
[07:00] <Ashex> elknof3: you did apt-get update?
[07:01] <Ashex> anyone have a recommendation for a kubuntu walkthrough type thing?
[07:01] <Ashex> or would the wiki probably work?
[07:01] <crimsun> there's a desktop guide for kubuntu
[07:02] <crimsun> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[07:02] <elknof3> yeap...  but im not sure i have multiverse activated... i mean i did activate all the repos that came with the installation...   multiverse is there??
[07:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what the command to list running proceses
[07:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ?
[07:03] <crimsun> ps, top, and so on
[07:03] <crimsun> you probably want ``ps auxw''
[07:04] <keith_> pstree is usefule sometimes as well
[07:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> the java installed fine for me
[07:09] <orient2000> My multiverse was not activated thanks
[07:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> but azureus gui doesnt work
[07:10] <crimsun> orient2000: np
[07:10] <Verithrax> Is it possible to get true transparency on X under Dapper?
[07:10] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: the azureus in dapper has some issues, but it should display at least
[07:10] <crimsun> Verithrax: somewhat, using Xgl
[07:11] <RawSewage> the font in my Audacity is all weird now
[07:11] <Verithrax> Actually, I want that for Opera widgets and not for the window manager.
[07:12] <crimsun> you can't choose that level of granularity yet
[07:12] <RawSewage> how do I fix the font
[07:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: it said x opening device failed , i think its talking about my video card
[07:13] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: pastebin the error{,s}?
[07:15] <elknof3> Ashex, ok now i did apt-get update    but still cant find sun-java5-bin package...
[07:15] <crimsun> you don't have multiverse enabled.
[07:15] <Ashex> pastebin your sources.lst thing
[07:15] <Ashex> the proper name escapes me
[07:16] <elknof3> !paste
[07:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16155
[07:17] <elknof3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16156
[07:19] <elknof3> Ashex,
[07:21] <Ashex> add multiverse to the second set of repositories
[07:21] <Ashex> !repository
[07:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about repository
[07:21] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Suitable java version found [java = 1.4.2] 
[07:21] <Ashex> bah, my spelling blows
[07:22] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you're probably using gcj
[07:22] <elknof3> Ashex, can you provide me those/that line??
[07:22] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: what's the output from ``java -version''?
[07:22] <Ashex> elknof3: just add the word multiverse to those two lines
[07:23] <elknof3> Ashex, on te top of them??
[07:23] <Ashex> elknof3: add it TO those lines
[07:23] <Ashex> you're adding onto them
[07:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: 4.1.0
[07:24] <RawSewage> You wont be able to run Java in the browser unless you ACCEPT the License agreement page
[07:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: oops . 1.4.2
[07:24] <elknof3> separated by tab or space??
[07:24] <RawSewage> you should follow the instructions step by step
[07:24] <RawSewage> and you wouldnt have any problem
[07:25] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ls -l `which java`
[07:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can anyone tell me what charakter is used for multiplication in speedkrunch?
[07:26] <madar> hello anyone got a prism_usb device working on dapper
[07:26] <RawSewage> *
[07:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: where u want me to run that command? what dir
[07:27] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: any directory
[07:27] <Ashex> elknof3: just add a space
[07:27] <madar> module appears to load but it doesn't seem to work
[07:27] <osiris> madar, i have a prism usb device, but havent tried to configure it yet
[07:27] <elknof3> Ashex, ok.. i've done that, but tha package s't there yet
[07:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: is sais lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-06-18 11:29 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[07:27] <madar> this device worked for me before on other distros but no luck in dapper
[07:28] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ok, now ls -l /etc/alternatives/java
[07:28] <Cornellius> I have downloaded a window decoration for kde-look, but I don't know where to extract the files. Can someone help me ?
[07:28] <madar> and I'm not seeing any documentation on it up yet :(
[07:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2006-06-21 00:48 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[07:28] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: aha. :)
[07:29] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: did you execute ``sudo update-alternatives --config java''?
[07:29] <burepe2> I got an unformated hard drive that I am trying to format through qtparted or gparted but I can't get it to come up in those programs. Do I have to mount it and unmount it before it will be recognized? But if it is unformated there is no file system so how can it be mounted? what am I doing wrong?
[07:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: no i didnt
[07:30] <elknof3> Ashex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16158  is that all right??
[07:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: was that in the java install guide?
[07:31] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no idea, I don't use Sun's JDK, and I installed the one I use by hand
[07:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: ok , so u want me to run that command?
[07:33] <Cornellius> Anyone knows some good card games for Linux ? I would love to play Cribbage under Ubuntu :)
[07:34] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: yes
[07:34] <Ashex> elknof3: try it
[07:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: ahh , so i need to use the sun java as default , right?
[07:35] <Ashex> actually, ask crimsun to take a look at your sources list, he might tell you if something is up if you're nice
[07:35] <elknof3> Ashex, i allready tryed...   but nothing
[07:36] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: indeed.
[07:36] <elknof3> it appears in adept...  sun java 5.0 runtime   but i cant install it
[07:36] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: yeah , it was in the guide, it just didnt say how to do it
[07:36] <elknof3> Ashex,
[07:37] <Ashex> elknof3: have you tried doing it in Konsole?
[07:37] <Ashex> adept doesn't do a good job of displaying errors
[07:37] <elknof3> Ashex, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[07:37] <elknof3> but nothing
[07:38] <elknof3> the package don't exist
[07:38] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: its working ,  kind of sluggish but works , thanks a lot for the help
[07:39] <elknof3> tha package is not available but other package makes refernce of it
[07:44] <orient2000> I just downloaded sun-jave5-bin after activating and updating repositories. It is still asking for mor downloads. Package is there in multiverse
[07:46] <elknof3> orient2000, you mean with adet??
[07:46] <elknof3> adept??
[07:46] <grant> is this a help place?
[07:50] <orient2000> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:50] <orient2000> then use console to install java
[07:50] <orient2000> It is very big upgrade
[07:51] <orient2000> How can I check if my jave is working. I am done with installation.
[07:53] <orient2000> grant: just ask the question. what is your problem.
[07:55] <elknof3> orient2000, could you give me the line to install java??
[07:55] <robotgeek> elknof3: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[07:58] <watchme> hi
[07:58] <watchme> anyone alive?? :D
[07:59] <robotgeek> watchme: no
[07:59] <watchme> I neep support with my amarok and libvisual0.2
[07:59] <robotgeek> amarok i can try, no idea bout libvisual0.2
[07:59] <erudified> Hey, I just installed Kubuntu 6.06 and I'd like to listen to some mp3s with juk; the directions I found said to install libarts1-xine and libxine-extracodecs but (even after uncommenting the multiverse line) I don't seem to have the -extracodecs package
[08:00] <erudified> could anyone shed some light on this?
[08:00] <robotgeek> erudified: did you apt=get update
[08:00] <erudified> robotgeek yeah =)
[08:00] <watchme> robotgeek: I did a apt-get update and it installed amarok 1.4
[08:01] <robotgeek> erudified: what does apt-cache show libxine-extracodecs
[08:01] <watchme> rob: but now it tells me it needs libvisual0.2 (is installed) and breaks every apt-get command
[08:01] <orient2000> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:01] <erudified> apt-cache search extracodec returns nothing so im pretty sure that command won't either
[08:01] <robotgeek> watchme: sudo apt-get install -f
[08:01] <erudified> but ill check
[08:02] <erudified> yeah nothing =(
[08:02] <robotgeek> erudified: please pastebin your sources.list
[08:02] <erudified> sure, one sec
[08:02] <watchme> robotgeek: doesnt do anything.. he tries to install libvisual0.2 again, but fails while writing over libvisual.so.0.0.0
[08:02] <elknof3> orient2000, those instructions are for ubuntu...   but i've tryed adding the multiverse...  and nothing happens...  i mean the package appears but im not able to install it
[08:02] <erudified> thanks for your help by
[08:02] <erudified> btw*
[08:02] <robotgeek> watchme: do you have a precompiled one installed?
[08:03] <watchme> I didnt installanything myself... I just let apt-get upgrade go.... :D
[08:03] <erudified> http://pastebin.ca/68201
[08:04] <robotgeek> watchme: can you pastebin the whole error?
[08:04] <watchme> sure
[08:04] <orient2000> click close and reload
[08:04] <erudified> I figured there was a multimedia repository like marillat for kubuntu
[08:05] <orient2000> these inst are for kubuntu I have kubuntu
[08:05] <robotgeek> erudified: http://pastebin.ca/68202
[08:05] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[08:05] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:06] <robotgeek> erudified: you had multiverse for backports enabled, but not main multiverse
[08:07] <watchme> uuuuuhhh pastebin is slow today...
[08:07] <erudified> use pastebin.ca
[08:07] <erudified> robotgeek, #
[08:07] <erudified> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:07] <erudified> this is the line right?
[08:07] <erudified> sry for excess paste hahah
[08:07] <robotgeek> erudified: yup
[08:07] <watchme> robotgeek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/722727
[08:08] <erudified> robotgeek, eh? its uncommented =(
[08:08] <erudified> the deb-src line is still commented
[08:09] <robotgeek> erudified: you need multiverse next to universe
[08:09] <elknof3> orient2000, yeah i have kubuntu too...    but the instructions for adding repositories are for ubuntu...   those you gave me...
[08:09] <robotgeek> watchme: hmm, german. does it say failed to override libvisual.x.x.x in package libvisual
[08:10] <watchme> yes
[08:10] <watchme> (sry.. Im german ;) )
[08:10] <erudified> robotgeek alright, thanks again man
[08:10] <elknof3> orient2000, but thanks dude, thanks a lot, it's time to sleep a little bit... i'll be trying tomorrow again
[08:10] <robotgeek> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu elknof3
[08:11] <erudified> I just got confused by the multiverse/universe thing
[08:11] <watchme> exactly: failed to overwrite libvisual.so.0.0.0
[08:11] <erudified> hey, as an aside, if anyone is using a wireless network card, network-manager-kde kicks ass
[08:12] <erudified> supports wpa etc with absolutely zero fuss
[08:12] <robotgeek> watchme: you can override it using "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /path/to/libvisual.deb"
[08:12] <farous_> erudified: it did not work with my static-ip setting though
[08:13] <erudified> farous_ yeah, check out /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian (path may be slightly diff)
[08:13] <orient2000> strange but it worked for me.
[08:13] <robotgeek> watchme: "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libvisual0.2_0.2.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[08:13] <erudified> it won't work with static IP addresses sadly, im sure that'll be fixed in some later version
[08:13] <farous_> i hope so :)
[08:13] <robotgeek> erudified: setup static ips on the router
[08:13] <erudified> *nods* that'd be a good solution
[08:14] <erudified> I don't mind just using dhcp for my laptop
[08:14] <robotgeek> i have the shcp server on the router assign static ips based on mac addresses
[08:14] <robotgeek> dhcp, err
[08:14] <watchme> wow.... that seems to work... :D
[08:14] <farous_> robotgeek: i have 4 machines here so i need to know where i send my material. do not know how your suggest work though
[08:15] <erudified> any of you guys know the status of xserver-xgl?
[08:15] <erudified> I've got a radeon 9000/64mb, think it'd run worth a shit?
[08:16] <robotgeek> farous_: yeah, it should work. i had same thing in my old setup
[08:16] <elknof3> robotgeek, thanks i think that worked...
[08:16] <farous_> robotgeek: so i can set the machine ip addresses on the router ?
[08:16] <farous_> jsut making sure i understand correctly
[08:17] <robotgeek> farous_: check with your router manual, but yes. Assign ip based on mac address of computer
[08:17] <robotgeek> your cmoputer thinks it is dhcp, but it is static ip :)
[08:17] <farous_> robotgeek: i will check though i doubt mine support it thanks thought a direction worth checking
[08:18] <farous_> :)
[08:18] <erudified> farous_ if yours doesnt id suggest upgrading
[08:18] <farous_> nah
[08:18] <erudified> ive had insane amounts of trouble from cheapo linksys belkin etc waps
[08:18] <farous_> am happy with manyal config :)
[08:19] <pd273> Am installing KDE 3.5 now, cant wait to see how it feels :-D
[08:19] <erudified> pd273 it brings the snappy
[08:19] <pd273> :)
[08:20] <watchme> robotgeek: THX man...
[08:20] <watchme> robotgeek: it really works :D
[08:20] <robotgeek> heh, no problem watchme
[08:21] <erudified> hahaha
[08:21] <erudified> "doomsday device?? now the ball's in farnsworth's court!"
[08:21] <watchme> robotgeek: you cant imagine how glad I am.. Im searching the web for days now :D
[08:21] <watchme> ok... thx .. and good bye :)
[08:21] <robotgeek> watchme: hmm, you know where to come next time :)
[08:22] <erudified> robotgeek #Debian ? hehehe
[08:22] <erudified> I just upgraded (yeah, upgraded, dammit) from unstable to kubuntu
[08:22] <erudified> big motivator was the asshats in #Debian
[08:23] <crimsun> (to be fair, that's more of a cross-grade than an upgrade per se...)
[08:23] <erudified> well for running on a laptop I consider it an upgrade
[08:23] <crimsun> sure, I certainly won't contest one's contentment with Kubuntu
[08:23] <farous_> erudified: i run both debian etch and ubuntu
[08:23] <farous_> no fuss both are great
[08:23] <farous_> debian leaner though as i configure it myself
[08:24] <erudified> the only pork I noticed were a couple excess services
[08:24] <erudified> other than that it installed more or less how I wanted it
[08:24] <jeroanmo> woot ubuntu up and running
[08:25] <erudified> farous_ did you notice that etch's firefox build was really slow when visiting javascript-heavy sites?
[08:25] <erudified> that was driving me nuts (gmail in particular)
[08:25] <farous_> erudified: let me check
[08:25] <erudified> mostly scrolling
[08:26] <farous_> nope
[08:26] <farous_> running fine here
[08:26] <ubuntu> hi all
[08:26] <erudified> thats cool; was really frustrating
[08:26] <farous_> i run sun-java though so that may be it
[08:27] <erudified> i mean javascript, not java
[08:27] <exceswater> is here someone who is kubuntu expert ?
[08:27] <exceswater> i have a big problem with my kubuntu...
[08:27] <erudified> also the Dojo toolkit's website, the examples, they were dog slow
[08:28] <farous_> that depend on the java plugin you use too right
[08:28] <Hobbsee> exceswater: shoot
[08:28] <exceswater> hi Hobbsee
[08:28] <Hobbsee> exceswater: and i doubt anyone knwos all of kubuntu
[08:28] <Hobbsee> heay
[08:28] <exceswater> i have same problem
[08:28] <exceswater> :D
[08:28] <farous_> anyway i hate firefox in general and just love opera
[08:28] <exceswater> my kubuntu doesn't start
[08:28] <exceswater> now i am from live cd
[08:28] <exceswater> but alone...
[08:28] <exceswater> it won't start
[08:29] <erudified> my only problem with opera, and its a showstopper for me, is that hitting the back button in gmail was broken (may be fixed now i gotta check)
[08:29] <exceswater> right after login
[08:29] <exceswater> it halts
[08:29] <exceswater> so ... ?
[08:29] <exceswater> anyone with a good advice
[08:29] <exceswater> :D?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> exceswater: i vaguely remember this from yesterday.  you say dont start - where does it actually fail?
[08:30] <exceswater> after login screen
[08:30] <exceswater> when kubuntu logo apears for second time
[08:30] <exceswater> with progress bar
[08:30] <exceswater> it just halts
[08:30] <exceswater> no errors apear
[08:30] <exceswater> etc
[08:31] <Hobbsee> ah....
[08:31] <exceswater> i tryed to uninstall kdm
[08:31] <exceswater> i think i did  that
[08:31] <exceswater> i installed it back
[08:31] <exceswater> nothing changes
[08:31] <erudified> can you do crtl+alt+F1 and login from there?
[08:31] <exceswater> i even tryed to run startx
[08:31] <exceswater> i can
[08:31] <orient2000> you must install ubuntu on your system first
[08:31] <exceswater> i tried : startx
[08:31] <exceswater> it starts
[08:32] <exceswater> after that it stops saying about nvidia driver not present
[08:32] <Hobbsee> exceswater: that's where it says all the stuff about the system booting up?
[08:32] <exceswater> but i have
[08:32] <icheyne> i installed the apt-get ATI drivers and reconfigured my xorg, but fglrxinfo still shows mesa - anyone got the answer?
[08:32] <Hobbsee> exceswater: did you install the nvidia driver?
[08:32] <exceswater> yup
[08:32] <exceswater> before that
[08:32] <erudified> ahh yeah; cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sed 's/nvidia/nv/g' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <exceswater> i can look now in adept
[08:32] <exceswater> anyway
[08:32] <exceswater> it should start even without it
[08:32] <exceswater> :D
[08:33] <erudified> did you install the nvidia driver using their installer, then upgrade your kernel?
[08:34] <exceswater> i dunno
[08:34] <erudified> i dont either =(
[08:34] <exceswater> i think it was something like restricted packages
[08:34] <exceswater> :D
[08:34] <exceswater> cause i am kinda noob
[08:34] <Spaceraver> meh... after doing a apt-get upgrade and a kernel install i get random gnome errors
[08:35] <erudified> exceswater well it aint a contest =P
[08:35] <erudified> exceswater recap this a bit for me
[08:35] <erudified> you're running off a liveCD?
[08:35] <erudified> or you have kubuntu installed?
[08:35] <exceswater> i have kubuntu installed
[08:35] <exceswater> but it won't start anymore
[08:35] <exceswater> :D
[08:35] <exceswater> so i run now from live cd
[08:35] <erudified> alright, so kubuntu boots completely, starts kdm, and kdm fails to start because it can't find the nvidia driver
[08:35] <exceswater> the story is like that :
[08:36] <exceswater> aham
[08:36] <exceswater> now that i looked in adept
[08:36] <exceswater> i saw that nvidia glx is not installed
[08:36] <exceswater> but it was
[08:36] <exceswater> :D
[08:36] <erudified> you're looking at the package list for the livecd, not your installation
[08:36] <exceswater> aaaa
[08:36] <farous_> erudified: i remember now i have noscript installed. the problem you talked about with firefox was common to ubuntu and debian. having the noscipt ext solved it for me
[08:36] <exceswater> and how i can install nvidia
[08:37] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[08:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <erudified> exceswater, if it's just X failing to start, you should be able to just wait a minute - kdm should stop trying to start after 3 or so failures
[08:37] <erudified> then you can login from the console and follow the directions in that howto
[08:38] <erudified> you can sudo apt-get install bitchx or ircii and talk to us from the cmd line
[08:38] <exceswater> ok
[08:38] <erudified> crtl+alt+F1 or +F2/F3 etc
[08:38] <exceswater> i will try] 
[08:38] <erudified> they give you different terminals
[08:38] <erudified> so on F1 you can talk to us and on F2 fix you issue
[08:38] <exceswater> i think i know bitchx
[08:38] <exceswater> old times :D
[08:38] <exceswater> irc on linux server on net cafe :D
[08:39] <exceswater> ok
[08:39] <exceswater> 10x
[08:39] <erudified> np
[08:39] <erudified> brb new kernel
[08:40] <exceswater> hey
[08:40] <exceswater> when it halts
[08:42] <exceswater> if i press ctrl alt f1
[08:42] <exceswater> i can have a cmd line :D
[08:42] <exceswater> i should know a server or smthng like that
[08:42] <exceswater> to use with bitchx
[08:42] <exceswater> ?
[08:45] <Spaceraver> why do a comp with a pIII proc restart X atfer changing the kernel to 686??
[08:46] <Spaceraver> i even did a dpkg-configure -a... swtill no dice...
[08:54] <sirblue> g'morning! i got a fresh install of dapper on my notebook, works allright, but the touchpad behaves strange, any idea how to fix it?
[08:56] <sirblue> strange, i.e. the wheel down acts like a rightclick an so on, doubleclick to drag and drop 's not working
[09:04] <exces_water> hello
[09:04] <exces_water> i am back
[09:04] <exces_water> with that problem with kubuntu start
[09:05] <exces_water> i installed nvidia glx
[09:05] <exces_water> and nvidia glx dec
[09:05] <exces_water> dev
[09:05] <exces_water> and it won't start...
[09:06] <exces_water> any1 here ?
[09:07] <osiris> exces_water, im here.  but havent tried to tackle nvidia on kubuntu yet
[09:07] <exces_water> i just cannot imagine what to do
[09:07] <exces_water> ...
[09:07] <exces_water> i try kdm
[09:08] <exces_water> it says only root can run it
[09:08] <exces_water> :D
[09:08] <psb154> exces_water can you be more specific than it wont work?
[09:08] <exces_water> it starts
[09:09] <exces_water> it displays kubuntu logo... and the progress bar
[09:09] <exces_water> it loads drivers and stuff
[09:09] <exces_water> login screen apears
[09:09] <exces_water> after that kubuntu logo appears again
[09:09] <exces_water> and it does nothing
[09:09] <exces_water> the computer is not blocked
[09:09] <psb154> do you see the nvidia logo when the computer boots up?
[09:09] <exces_water> it just doesn't do nothing
[09:09] <exces_water> nope
[09:10] <exces_water> on the second screen with kubuntu logo
[09:10] <psb154> have you edited your xorg.conf
[09:10] <exces_water> it just stops
[09:10] <exces_water> nope
[09:10] <exces_water> i haven't changed nothing
[09:10] <exces_water> one morning it just crashed
[09:10] <psb154> are you able to see /etc/X11/xorg.conf so we can examine it
[09:10] <exces_water> few days ago
[09:10] <exces_water> i try
[09:10] <exces_water> please tell me what to do...
[09:11] <exces_water> i am new to unix
[09:11] <exces_water> i know about CTRL ALT F1 and so...
[09:11] <exces_water> how i get to that xorg
[09:11] <psb154> are you logged on to that computer some how so you can issue commands
[09:11] <exces_water> i am logged
[09:12] <exces_water> when it halts
[09:12] <psb154> ok
[09:12] <exces_water> i pressed CTR ALT F1
[09:12] <exces_water> and command line appeared
[09:12] <exces_water> i login
[09:12] <psb154> hang on...
[09:12] <exces_water> and i installed bitchx
[09:12] <exces_water> k
[09:13] <psb154> type: grep "dri" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:13] <psb154> tell me what it says
[09:14] <noalear> Hey
[09:14] <noalear> Im a noob.
[09:15] <exces_water> it says or does nothing
[09:15] <noalear> anyone willing to help a noob?
[09:15] <exces_water> :(
[09:15] <psb154> type: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <exces_water> ok
[09:16] <exces_water> i try
[09:16] <psb154> does that doe anything
[09:16] <noalear> I need a program to monitor the system temperature
[09:16] <exces_water> this does
[09:16] <psb154> good
[09:16] <exces_water> in displays something loong
[09:16] <exces_water> on 2-3 screens
[09:16] <exces_water> scrolling fast :d
[09:16] <exces_water> niceee
[09:16] <exces_water> :D
[09:16] <psb154> now type: grep "nvidia" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <exces_water> k
[09:17] <exces_water> it did something
[09:17] <noalear> is there like a noob channel for me?
[09:17] <exces_water> like that: # nvidia-xconfig : x configuration file generated
[09:18] <exces_water> and one more line
[09:18] <psb154> exces_water, it appears that you have not install the nvidia drivers.
[09:18] <exces_water> but how
[09:18] <exces_water> 'cause i installed it
[09:18] <exces_water> i am new to this
[09:18] <exces_water> i installed kubuntu alone
[09:18] <chavo> they are installed but xorg isn't using them
[09:18] <exces_water> i have a feeling that not everything is ok...
[09:19] <exces_water> but it was working before
[09:19] <noalear> when i tried installing nvidias drivers it turned into a nightmare quick
[09:19] <psb154> I would expect to see lines like: Driver "nvidia" or something like
[09:19] <exces_water> i have no idea about partitioning drives... and so on
[09:19] <noalear> it blew up ubuntu and so i gave up
[09:19] <exces_water> noalear  you can ask for help here
[09:19] <psb154> one problem at a time
[09:20] <exces_water> there are allways nice people to help noobs like us
[09:20] <exces_water> just wait a little
[09:20] <exces_water> i have a bigger problem
[09:20] <exces_water> :D
[09:20] <exces_water> ok
[09:20] <noalear> lol
[09:20] <noalear> i know
[09:20] <noalear> installing nvidia problems
[09:20] <exces_water> my kubuntu won't start anymore
[09:20] <noalear> :O
[09:20] <psb154> exces_water what is your graphics card?
[09:20] <exces_water> and it seems it's nvidia
[09:21] <exces_water> it's nvidia geforce 4 mx 440
[09:21] <exces_water> okd type :d
[09:21] <exces_water> o.O
[09:21] <exces_water> old i mean
[09:21] <noalear> try installing a Quadro FX!
[09:21] <psb154> I have exactly the same card in one of my computers.
[09:21] <noalear> I dont even find the windows drivers!
[09:21] <exces_water> :D
[09:21] <psb154> download the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[09:21] <exces_water> i have them in my pc
[09:21] <exces_water> but i have no ideea how to access them
[09:22] <exces_water> :D
[09:22] <exces_water> i downloaded
[09:22] <exces_water> this is odd
[09:22] <exces_water> i installed nvidia drivers before
[09:22] <exces_water> even started Wolfenstein ET
[09:22] <exces_water> or Warsow
[09:22] <noalear> im taking a hardcore lesson in ubuntu. I have my new raptor installed with XP home, XP Pro, and Ubuntu, just because
[09:22] <noalear> Well Home is on my barracuda.
[09:23] <psb154> ok... you changed something and broke it. you don't know what you broke. I would try to install again.
[09:23] <noalear> but when I start my keyboard wont work and im lazy so i just boot into ubuntu
[09:23] <exces_water> ok
[09:23] <psb154> do you know what you changed? Something to do with your monitor maybe#
[09:24] <exces_water> nope
[09:24] <exces_water> everything worked
[09:24] <exces_water> i shutted down my pc
[09:24] <exces_water> went home
[09:24] <exces_water> next morning
[09:24] <exces_water> no start
[09:24] <exces_water> i really dunno
[09:24] <noalear> could be a hdd issue
[09:24] <noalear> it could be corrupting
[09:24] <exces_water> some games ... this was last thing i installed... from adept
[09:25] <noalear> dont know how to check that in ubun
[09:25] <psb154> is your computer on a switcher box, more than one computer using the same monitor etc
[09:25] <exces_water> nope
[09:25] <exces_water> this is my old pc
[09:25] <exces_water> that i use now on my office
[09:25] <exces_water> :d
[09:25] <noalear> how old?
[09:25] <exces_water> and i had xp sp2 on it
[09:25] <exces_water> 2 years
[09:25] <noalear> shouldnt be an issue
[09:25] <exces_water> but here it's a problem with licences for software
[09:26] <exces_water> and it just doesn't worth buying that boooring windows
[09:26] <exces_water> and i choosed kubuntu
[09:26] <exces_water> is nice
[09:26] <exces_water> even being a noob .... it's still nice
[09:27] <exces_water> but i have a feeling that is something wrong with my pc
[09:27] <exces_water> i had a problem before
[09:27] <noalear> i just need someone to shit down with me for like a couple hours and teach me the ropes
[09:27] <mindspit> hallo
[09:27] <exces_water> noalear: someone to sit down with you :D
[09:27] <psb154> exces_water, try reinstalling the nvidia drivers.
[09:27] <_paul> hello, could anybody tell me what is the name of that apliction 4 weather that looks really great(shows wind movement and such), cause i've seen it in one screen shot
[09:27] <exces_water> psb154 are u still  there
[09:27] <exces_water> how
[09:28] <exces_water> i know i have the,
[09:28] <exces_water> them
[09:28] <psb154> you installed them once right?
[09:28] <chavo> _paul, it's superkaramba with the Liquid Weather theme
[09:29] <_paul> it shows weather, right? :P
[09:29] <noalear> if i dont use kubuntu should i be here? i use regular ubuntu
[09:29] <exces_water> yes
[09:29] <exces_water> i installed them before
[09:29] <exces_water> and i even had nvidia logo when my pc was starting up
[09:29] <exces_water> :D
[09:30] <noalear> now you dont, because you broke it.
[09:30] <exces_water> :D
[09:30] <exces_water> imagine that i have the drivers
[09:30] <noalear> anyone know of a system temperature app I can use?
[09:31] <exces_water> but it seems like i have them in a directory named this that
[09:31] <exces_water> and i duno how to cd it
[09:31] <exces_water> if i type: cd this that
[09:31] <psb154> noalear, do a google on lmsensor and then install gkrellm/
[09:31] <exces_water> it says it's no such directory
[09:31] <exces_water> how i acces that dir
[09:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > exces
[09:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > if the directory has a space in the name
[09:32] <psb154> exces_water, would it be easier to reinstall kbuntu and start again?
[09:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > put quotes around it
[09:32] <psb154> put it down to experience :-)
[09:32] <exces_water> kinda
[09:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > you would say cd "this that"
[09:32] <exces_water> but i loose nvidia drivers
[09:32] <exces_water> and it will be a pain to install them again
[09:32] <exces_water> and some cool games
[09:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > erm
[09:33] <hoittr> Excuse me, but I have either (A. Found a bug in Dapper) or (B. Am a complete idiot)... When I use the remote desktop tool after changing my default resolution from 1024x768 to 1600x1200 and re-run the remote desktop tool. The vncserver still uses a resolution of 1024x768, and I can not remotely access all of my screen. 1. How can I fix this. 2. If it IS a bug, how do I report it?
[09:33] <[Evil] [Ernie] > did you get that, exces?
[09:33] <noalear> how do i run lmsensor?
[09:33] <psb154> you are connected to the internet now so just download them while you are installing
[09:33] <exces_water> and mp3 codecs or something like that
[09:33] <exces_water> it's a problem with repositories
[09:33] <psb154> now you are making excuses, you did it once you can do it again :-)
[09:33] <exces_water> yup
[09:34] <exces_water> i will install again
[09:34] <hoittr> exces_water: You need to use an "\" before the space. To signal a space... Easier would be cd this(tab key) to pull it up.
[09:34] <exces_water> and i will be on #kubuntu for help
[09:34] <exces_water> :D
[09:34] <exces_water> 10x
[09:34] <stuart_> has anyone used Open Office Math?
[09:34] <psb154> my moto: "quit complaining and get on with it"
[09:34] <noalear> lmsensor- how do i run this?
[09:35] <psb154> noalear you have to install it. google lmsensor howto
[09:35] <exces_water> yoooo
[09:35] <exces_water> thanks guy
[09:35] <exces_water> guys
[09:35] <exces_water> i will be back ... hehe
[09:35] <exces_water> this is so deep :d
[09:35] <exces_water> i will install it again
[09:35] <psb154> exces_water, this is how we all learn linux :-)
[09:35] <stuart_> don't all rush me
[09:36] <psb154> welcome to the club :-)
[09:36] <exces_water> my problem is partitioning hard drive...
[09:36] <exces_water> and using partitions
[09:36] <exces_water> :D
[09:36] <_paul> i installed superkaramba but where did kubuntu put it, cause i can't find it anywhere:(( ?
[09:36] <exces_water> :D
[09:36] <exces_water> anyway... thanks guys... for help
[09:36] <exces_water> you can't see this too often...
[09:36] <exces_water> people helping people :d
[09:37] <stuart_> any formula editor users here
[09:37] <stuart_> OO Math
[09:37] <chavo> _paul, Applications - Utilities
[09:37] <exces_water> hi chavo
[09:37] <chavo> hi exces_water ,
[09:37] <psb154> stuart_ there is an openoffice channel
[09:37] <_paul> thnx
[09:37] <_paul> :P
[09:37] <exces_water> i quit now
[09:37] <exces_water> to install it again :d
[09:37] <stuart_> ok
[09:37] <psb154> #openoffice.org I believe
[09:37] <exces_water> bye bye
[09:37] <exces_water> and 10x
[09:38] <_paul> finding out about this channel from one of my friends made my life on kubuntu a whole lot easyer:p
[09:56] <GullyFoyle> hrm i  installed opera9 on amd64, the shared version, but it wouldnt start. complained about libxcursor. oh well, that's what i get for running amd64. stuff just doesnt work.
[09:59] <psb154> GullyFoyle, have you tried: sudo apt-get install lbxcursor*
[09:59] <psb154> libxcursor*
[10:07] <emonkey> there any information about external USB-Cardreaders for Flashcards like Compact Flash?
[10:09] <GullyFoyle> psb154: libxcursor is already installed
[10:09] <GullyFoyle> beats me
[10:10] <psb154> GullyFoyle the static version should have everything it needs.
[10:10] <mindspit> goodmorning from greece! does anyone have knowledge on how ispconfig works ?
[10:11] <psb154> ispconfig o_O
[10:11] <emonkey> ipconfig?
[10:12] <psb154> ifconfig O_O
[10:12] <|lostbyte|> emonkey, i think you mean ifconfig )_o
[10:12] <emonkey> ups...shame on me
[10:12] <|lostbyte|> ipconfig is a windows tool.
[10:12] <psb154> :-D
[10:12] <|lostbyte|> =D
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> Its simply a tool to interact with inerface's !
[10:13] <psb154> man ifconfig
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> $man ifconfig
[10:13] <psb154> lol
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> :P
[10:14] <psb154> spooooky
[10:20] <solid_liq> heheh, it's hard to even call windows' ipconfig a tool, considering it's practically a read-only display, except for dhcp
[10:20] <|lostbyte|> Thats right !
[10:20] <mindspit> i mean ISPConfig ... www.ispconfig.org
[10:22] <psb154> did you just create that domain to make a point :-)
[10:23] <mindspit> :-o
[10:23] <mindspit> anyway i am having dificulties to install virtual hosts using dyndns.org adresses for my only one ip address
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> Installing..
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> ?
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> you just got to resgister and you get your virtual host..
[10:25] <mindspit> yes i reg-ed on dyndns and got 3 domains neomedia.homelinux.org , mindspit.homelinux.org and one more
[10:25] <mindspit> then i installed apache/php , mysql  and then ISPconfig
[10:26] <mindspit> i can handle ispconfig in the address https://mindspit.homelinux.org:81
[10:26] <mindspit> but i cannot see http://mindspit.homelinux.org correctly
[10:27] <mindspit> not http://neomedia.homelinux.org/
[10:27] <mindspit> sorry nor
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> is your first page "Under Construction"..
[10:27] <mindspit> no .. no under constraction !
[10:28] <mindspit> error 403 Access forbidden!
[10:29] <mindspit> on both http://mindspit.homelinux.org/ and http://mindspit.homelinux.org/
[10:29] <mindspit> and http://neomedia.homelinux.org/
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> Access forbidden! ..?
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> IS that yours ?
[10:31] <mindspit> yes
[10:32] <|lostbyte|> Looks like you have a dynamic ip
[10:32] <mindspit> yes i do
[10:32] <mindspit> i refresh it with ddclient
[10:33] <|lostbyte|> There are programs for linux to tell dyndns of the ip change.. you need that..
[10:33] <|lostbyte|> or the dyndns wont work.
[10:34] <mindspit> any way ... when it works , works ... but i think the problem is to configure ISPConfig properly
[10:34] <|lostbyte|> ISPConfig has the dyndns feature ?
[10:34] <|lostbyte|> then do so..
[10:35] <mindspit> not it does not
[10:36] <mindspit> but it has a way to resolve different addresses (doimains ) from one (shared) ip
[10:37] <mindspit> another user of isp config did it to work see www.whittyhost.us.to
[10:37] <mindspit> he is great!
[10:48] <mindspit> i just crashed my kde!
[10:50] <mindspit> anyway you can answer to me if you like in the url : http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30582#post30582
[10:50] <mindspit> thanks anyway!
[10:51] <mindspit> i think the idea toi use dyndns and ispconfig for home use for personal blogs etc is good!
[10:51] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:52] <szyszeja__> slow-motion:
[10:52] <szyszeja__> hola
[10:52] <slow-motion> hi szyszeja__
[10:52] <mindspit> hola espania!
[10:52] <szyszeja__> mindspit: hola
[11:00] <word> sh: mcopy: command not found - what package is that?
[11:11] <Kristophe> word, maybe mtools?
[11:14] <raphink> word: dpkg -S mcopy
[11:15] <word> raphink: I got it sorry for leaving i was using a tut to make a live usb installer of suse kubuntu doesn't have a small enough version for my flash drive >< i needed the mcopy for configuring syslinux
[11:22] <Kristophe> Do you know where the dictionnary for lexical coorection is defined in kmail (kontact)? It has switched from french to english on its own!!
[11:24] <visik7> kcontrol->kde components->spell checker
[11:27] <diiiego> Hi, i've a problem with the installation of Xgl in kubuntu.... i've seen in kinfocenter that my 3d accellerator in not recognized.... (i've a nvida graphic card).can you help me??
[11:29] <keops> salut
[11:30] <keops> salut
[11:30] <diiiego> hola
[11:32] <apokryphos> diiiego: join and ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:32] <apokryphos> or actually I guess it's fine here
[11:32] <apokryphos> diiiego: have you installed the nvidiad driver?
[11:32] <apokryphos> *nvidia
[11:32] <_rince_> mrgn
[11:37] <diiiego> yes my driver nvidia is ok
[11:38] <diiiego> but when i lunch my xgl session the desktop bolock
[11:39] <kuzmaster> hello all
[11:48] <yvonne_> Hello
[11:49] <yvonne_> i was wondering if anyone could help me with installing real player
[11:49] <raphink> !restrictedformats
[11:49] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:49] <yvonne_> i've tried it from the adapt manager but it says it cant do it because the commit may break packages and something else
[11:53] <kuzmaster> !realplayer
[11:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:53] <yvonne_> cheers for those links bot but i've already been through the links and done the tasks
[11:59] <yvonne_> !realplayer
[11:59] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> does anyone know a good substitute for KLaptop?
[12:01] <yvonne_> can anyone help with real player, i've  been through the tutorials
[12:02] <drgonzo> hello
[12:02] <drgonzo> is there any chance of seeing kbibtex being added to the repo in the future?
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> what is it?
[12:04] <drgonzo> bibtex is a BibTeX editor that integrates with kile
[12:04] <drgonzo> erm kbibtex*
[12:05] <drgonzo> used for storing and adding refferences to your latex documents
[12:06] <drgonzo> do you want the website?
[12:06] <yvonne_> is there a command that i;m missing for enabling non free stuff. because i'm getting confused
[12:09] <yvonne_> hello?
[12:09] <Lynoure> yvonne_: Hi
[12:10] <Hobbsee> drgonzo: yeah, add it to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[12:10] <Lynoure> yvonne_: You can install Realplayer manually from their website or use easyubuntu to install it for you
[12:10] <weedar> Is there a keyboard-shortcut equivalent to windows-key+m (to minimize everything) ?
[12:10] <drgonzo> thanks Hobbsee :)
[12:11] <yvonne_> i downloaded the .bin version from their website but when it installed it it just installed it to my home documents drive, how do i go about installing it to the appropriate place?
[12:12] <Lynoure> weedar: I'd assume so (I'm not on my kubuntu right not), or that you can set one from System Settings
[12:12] <yvonne_> lynoure: does easyubuntu work with kubuntu?
[12:12] <yvonne_> because i've tried add/remove programs and adept manager and they both give me errors
[12:16] <kuzmaster> join #suse
[12:17] <Lynoure> yvonne_: Not completely, but for installing stuff other than java or flash, yes
[12:17] <yvonne_> lol
[12:17] <yvonne_> in tried installing it and i restarted KDE and i dont see it
[12:17] <yvonne_> lol
[12:18] <Lynoure> yvonne_: oh, worked fine for me, I think. But you can also do it manually, download it yourself, then install
[12:19] <yvonne_> yeh, this is not my machine, i installed it fine on my own thats why i dont know what the hell is going on..
[12:20] <yvonne_> i just tried installing it through another package manager it and it says something about repositories and dependencies
[12:20] <yvonne_> realplayer:
[12:20] <yvonne_>  Depends: xlibs  but it is not installable
[12:20] <RawSewage> !ntfs
[12:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[12:20] <exces> hi all
[12:20] <exces> i am back
[12:20] <exces> :d
[12:21] <yvonne_> is there a command for changing repositories
[12:22] <exceswater> bug
[12:22] <yvonne_> sorry?
[12:22] <Lynoure> yvonne_: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list     and nano can be replaced with any editor
[12:23] <madman101> what do I install to get "stdio.h" and the like?
[12:24] <yvonne_> cheers lyn, whats nano?
[12:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi, i need a huge help.. i dunno why from the last update when i play something in my video player using the XV video output everythign crashes... mplayer -vo xv FILENAME. If i use the OpenGl video output instead, everything works just fine... however, i preffered in the past XV because it achieve better performances.... could you help me understanding why the video server crashes?
[12:25] <waylandbill> madman101: build-essential
[12:28] <yvonne_> lynoure: i've just remembered, on my install ages ago i added something to that sources.list
[12:28] <kuzmaster> can you see this?
[12:28] <yvonne_> it came from  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706110
[12:32] <Lynoure> yvonne_: probably. But the Real player by Real networks is all non-free, so unless you added some other repos than universe or multiverse, it's not likely to be there
[12:32] <yvonne_> it comes up under the package mangers
[12:32] <yvonne_> it just wont install
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so, can anybody help me?
[12:33] <Lynoure> yvonne_: What's the exact name of the package?
[12:34] <Lynoure> yvonne_: but, there are other ways, but of course you can choose your battles which way you want :)
[12:34] <yvonne_> real player
[12:35] <yvonne_> the only reason i wanna install this damn app is so that i can use the pluggin for an internet radio site
[12:36] <andrea> Hobbsee: are you here?
[12:36] <andrea> Hobbsee: do you have any clue for what is happening.. i don't really know what to look for..
[12:37] <yvonne_> lynoure: whats the other battle then ; )
[12:38] <Lynoure> yvonne_: going to the site, downloading from there and installing manually. Has been easy everytime I have done it. Minus side is that you cannot apt-get to upgrade it
[12:39] <yvonne_> and it's a .bin file right?>
[12:39] <shogo> hi, anybody can help me? Kmail says "Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed" when i try to load it
[12:39] <Lynoure> yvonne_: .sh to start the install. But yes, binary only stuff
[12:40] <shogo> I have tried to reinstall it and give it permission but nothing..
[12:40] <yvonne_> i tried that earlier, but it installed it to my home folder and i didnt know what to do with it then
[12:40] <exceswater> hey people
[12:40] <exceswater> !gnome
[12:40] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:40] <exceswater> who can tell me what is this gnome ?
[12:40] <Lynoure> yvonne_: Usually don't need to do anything then, at least if you use FireFox
[12:41] <Lynoure> yvonne_: just click on the link :)
[12:42] <shogo> anybody can help me with kmail?
[12:42] <exceswater> shogo
[12:42] <exceswater> what is wrong with kmail
[12:42] <exceswater> i am kinda noob but willing to help
[12:42] <exceswater> i managed to make my kmail work with my email account
[12:42] <shogo> it says: " Communication problem with kmail,  it probably crashed" when i try to load it :/
[12:42] <exceswater> remove it
[12:42] <exceswater> and install again
[12:43] <shogo> well, removing it means te remove kubuntu-desktop too...
[12:43] <exceswater> i dunno about that
[12:43] <exceswater> sorry
[12:43] <shogo> :/
[12:43] <exceswater> i got to restart
[12:43] <exceswater> i'll return
[12:43] <shogo> im afraid i 'd make my system unbootable
[12:44] <shogo> ok
[12:44] <shogo> c u
[12:44] <exceswater> cu 2
[12:44] <exceswater> and good luck
[12:44] <shogo> thx
[12:45] <waylandbill> you don't need to remove it. It crashed... did you try running it again?
[12:46] <shogo> of course
[12:46] <shogo> it always says the same
[12:47] <shogo> shogo@R-50:~$ kmail
[12:47] <shogo> ERROR: Communication problem with kmail, it probably crashed.
[12:47] <yvonne_> lynoure:
[12:47] <waylandbill> have you ever gotten  kmail to run?
[12:47] <exceswater> .
[12:47] <exceswater> :D
[12:48] <exceswater> so...
[12:48] <shogo> waylandbill: not in this distribution
[12:48] <yvonne_> lynoure: whats the directory i wanna instal real to?
[12:48] <exceswater> who can help me with repositories
[12:48] <shogo> i mean, i have recently installed kubuntu in my laptop, and here i haven't managed it to run
[12:48] <exceswater> i wanna install nvidia drivers
[12:48] <shogo> sorry about my english :)
[12:48] <exceswater> but i am too noob
[12:49] <shogo> exceswater: maybe www.nvidia.com?
[12:49] <exceswater> hehe lol
[12:49] <shogo> there should be precompilated modules there
[12:49] <exceswater> if it were that easy
[12:49] <shogo> nvidia develops drivers for linux
[12:49] <exceswater> drivers for nvidia are included somehow in adept
[12:49] <shogo> maybe some *.deb
[12:49] <exceswater> but you cannot install them
[12:49] <shogo> um, ok sorry
[12:49] <waylandbill> exceswater: did you do a search on the ubuntu wiki?
[12:49] <exceswater> because they are restricted
[12:49] <exceswater> :d
[12:49] <exceswater> yes
[12:49] <exceswater> i am noob on unix
[12:49] <exceswater> but not dumb
[12:50] <waylandbill> never said you were
[12:50] <Lynoure> yvonne_: I don't know. Will other users be needing it? If not, you can go for the default just fine
[12:50] <exceswater> still... i don't understand how to use repositories :D
[12:50] <shogo> well, the sources list is in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[12:50] <yvonne_> sorry for these stupid questions, it's just doing my nut
[12:50] <exceswater> yes
[12:50] <shogo> then you edit that file and erase the # simbols to uncomment some repositories
[12:51] <exceswater> it's something about that sources ?
[12:51] <exceswater> :d
[12:51] <shogo> what?
[12:51] <shogo> p   nvidia-glx                      - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[12:51] <waylandbill> funny.. many other people install nvidia using the wiki instructions daily
[12:52] <shogo> any ideas for my kmail?
[12:52] <waylandbill> it's possible it's corrupted. I wouldn't think it's too likely.
[12:53] <exceswater> no
[12:53] <exceswater> it's not that
[12:53] <shogo> exceswater: if i were you i will vim /etc/apt/sources.lst, then uncomment all the repositories there, then sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude search nvidia and then sudo aptitude install what u want :)
[12:53] <exceswater> it's about nvidia drivers being restricted from repositories
[12:53] <waylandbill> exceswater: I was talking about kmail
[12:53] <exceswater> aha
[12:53] <exceswater> no problem
[12:54] <shogo> waylandbill: i have tried to remove it but it means to remove kubuntu-desktop too... and im a but afraid about doing that... dont u think so?
[12:54] <exceswater> i am so new to kubuntu that you speak to me in a alien language :d
[12:54] <shogo> exceswater: have u understand what i said?
[12:54] <waylandbill> shogo: that would not be good..
[12:54] <exceswater> not really
[12:55] <shogo> exceswater: then answer
[12:55] <shogo> :)
[12:55] <waylandbill> exceswater: what does apt-get install nvidia-glx say?
[12:55] <shogo> waylandbill: i have reinstalled but it doesnt work :/
[12:55] <yvonne_> this is so dumb
[12:56] <exceswater> it says that
[12:56] <exceswater> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:56] <exceswater> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:56] <exceswater> i am not dumb
[12:56] <yvonne_> lol
[12:56] <shogo> then, put sudo before the command line
[12:56] <shogo> :)
[12:56] <yvonne_> i'm not calling anyone dumb
[12:57] <shogo> sudo is like a fake root
[12:57] <yvonne_> the fact that i cant get this real player install to work
[12:57] <jme__> exceswater: relax man, nobody thinks you are dumb
[12:57] <exceswater> :D
[12:58] <exceswater> and another stupid thing
[12:58] <exceswater> until now my kopete worked
[12:58] <jme__> exceswater: you need 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[12:58] <exceswater> now it doesn't connect
[12:58] <Goldenear> the
[12:58] <exceswater> dunno why
[12:58] <shogo> what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[12:58] <andrea> suppose nobody has problems with XV using an ati card when playing with xine or mplayer?
[12:58] <exceswater> it says it's installed
[12:58] <exceswater> but i think it's a problem about that restriction
[12:58] <shogo> exceswater: have u taken a look at the preferences?
[12:59] <exceswater> yup
[12:59] <exceswater> added my yahoo acount
[12:59] <shogo> i repaired my gaim making it connect by http instead of the other method :)
[12:59] <exceswater> but it makes a funny thing about connect
[12:59] <exceswater> jumping logo
[12:59] <exceswater> and doesn't connect
[12:59] <shogo> :/
[12:59] <shogo> really funny
[12:59] <shogo> w8, i'll have a look at mine
[12:59] <exceswater> i will try gaim
[12:59] <exceswater> :d
[12:59] <shogo> well, do u have a router?
what glxinfo says ?
[01:00] <waylandbill> shogo: aptitude has a user interface to show packages... apt-get is pretty much non-interactive.
[01:00] <Tonio_> hello
[01:00] <yvonne_> does anyone know why when i right click/request install does adept manager say "BREAK (install)"??
[01:00] <shogo> waylandbill: thanks mate :)
 xvinfo i mean
[01:01] <shogo> exceswater: im sorry, but my kopete works properlu
[01:01] <shogo> *properly
[01:01] <exceswater> :d
[01:01] <shogo> not as my kmail xD
[01:01] <exceswater> i try gaim now
[01:01] <shogo> u can also try amsn, or mercury messenger
[01:01] <shogo> I love mercury messenger, so cute, but it requires JAVA
[01:01] <waylandbill> yvonne_: I think that means there's a conflict with packages.
[01:02] <yvonne_> do u know if there is anyway to find out why/solution?
[01:03] <shogo> anybody could recommend me a mail client different than kmail or evolution?
[01:03] <yvonne_> THUNDERBIRD
[01:03] <exceswater> tell me please how to make a shortcut on my desktop to gaim
[01:03] <exceswater> i cannot find gaim in menu
[01:03] <shogo> yvonne_: is it easy to use?
[01:03] <yvonne_> restart KDE if u have just installed it
[01:03] <shogo> exceswater: just put gaim & in a terminal
[01:03] <shogo> or listen yvonne_ too ;)
[01:03] <waylandbill> shogo: thunderbird is very easy to use
[01:03] <yvonne_> shogo: very easy, and there is some very cool skins
[01:04] <exceswater> lol
[01:04] <exceswater> it's weird
[01:04] <exceswater> cannot i make a shortcut ?
[01:04] <shogo> well u can
[01:04] <exceswater> how
[01:04] <shogo> with a symbolic link
[01:04] <yvonne_> lol.. i cant believe i';ve just waisted the last 2 sodding hours trying to get a radio station working
[01:04] <shogo> ln -s
[01:04] <waylandbill> yvonne_: watch.. it won't be that good of a station either. ;-)
[01:05] <yvonne_> exceswater: restart KDE, then when it appears under internet, right clickk, add icon to desktop
[01:05] <waylandbill> exceswater: right click the desktop, and "Create New", "Link to Application"
[01:05] <yvonne_> waylandbill: this is my moms computer, thus if i cant get it working i'm in the ****!
[01:06] <shogo> yvonne_: it isn't available in spanish :(
[01:08] <lackdiant> how can I check if javascript runs on konqueror?
[01:08] <lackdiant> I can't open youtube and I have flash
[01:09] <waylandbill> yvonne_: did you try to get the deb package from debian-multimedia.org?
[01:10] <lackdiant> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Click here to get the latest flash player. (message in youtube)
[01:10] <lackdiant> if I open the same page in firefox I have no problems, this appears me on konqueror
[01:11] <waylandbill> lackdiant: I think they require Flash 8, which isn't on Linux. Linux won't until the 8.5 release
[01:11] <exceswater> what...
[01:11] <exceswater> my gaim won't connect to my yahoo account
[01:11] <exceswater> why ?
[01:11] <lackdiant> but I can open in firefox
[01:12] <waylandbill> lackdiant: oh. ok. I was wrong then
[01:12] <lackdiant> so I thought I have JavaScript turned off, and I don't know who to check it
[01:12] <lackdiant> *how to check it
[01:12] <andred> exceswater: it's not the client's fault. the server is having issues lately
[01:12] <waylandbill> exceswater: I can't reach yahoo either. prob on their end
[01:13] <andred> exceswater: so you can switch back to kopete ;)
[01:13] <exceswater> :d
[01:13] <exceswater> lol yup
[01:13] <waylandbill> LOL!
[01:13] <exceswater> who can help me with repositories ?
[01:13] <exceswater> so i can reinstall nvidia drivers
[01:13] <shogo> exceswater: what happens?
[01:13] <waylandbill> exceswater: what specifically do you need help with? Otherwise, the answer is yes... someone can. :-)
[01:14] <exceswater> i dunno how to make those packages not restricted
[01:14] <exceswater> i installed kubuntu second time
[01:14] <exceswater> the same problem
[01:14] <exceswater> first time someone helped my with that
[01:14] <exceswater> but i am very noob
[01:14] <shogo> mmm
[01:14] <shogo> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:15] <shogo> type that
[01:15] <shogo> do u know how to use vim?
[01:15] <exceswater> and i wouldn't know how to make same miracle happen again
[01:15] <exceswater> :D
[01:15] <waylandbill> exceswater: this time when you get the solution, write it down. :-D
[01:15] <exceswater> so...
[01:15] <exceswater> i will my friend
[01:15] <exceswater> be sure i will
[01:15] <exceswater> i did  sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:15] <shogo> well
[01:15] <exceswater> and it's an empty file
[01:15] <exceswater> some like that
[01:15] <shogo> what??'
[01:15] <exceswater> :d
[01:16] <exceswater> yup
[01:16] <exceswater> ampty
[01:16] <exceswater> empty
[01:16] <shogo> it makes no sense :/
[01:16] <exceswater> to me neither
[01:16] <exceswater> :D
[01:16] <shogo> then
[01:16] <shogo> just put vi, without sudo
[01:16] <exceswater> i remember that last time someone helped me
[01:16] <exceswater> and gave me some text that i added in that text file with kate ?
[01:17] <shogo> well, kate is another editor, like vi, vim, gim, nano... etc
[01:17] <shogo> that file has to contain some lines like these
[01:17] <waylandbill> I've never seen an empty sources.list... at very least the CD is in there
[01:17] <exceswater> yes
[01:17] <exceswater> i remember
[01:17] <shogo> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[01:17] <shogo> deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:17] <shogo> deb-src http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:17] <exceswater> but it's empty
[01:18] <shogo> waylandbill: so do i...
[01:18] <exceswater> i have no line :D
[01:18] <exceswater> i have nothing to uncomment
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> I find it best to start with an empty sources.list and then add what I want (being able to see the whole file at once helps you make sure you have everything)
[01:18] <shogo> ls /etc/apt
[01:19] <waylandbill> h3sp4wn: or at least remove the unneeded comments
[01:20] <shogo> i think so
[01:20] <shogo> exceswater: then..
[01:20] <shogo> u should get a sources.lst
[01:20] <exceswater> oic
[01:20] <shogo> maybe searching at google?
[01:20] <exceswater> k
[01:20] <exceswater> 10x
[01:20] <shogo> well, w8 a moment
[01:20] <shogo> type sudo apt-get update at a terminal
[01:21] <exceswater> i did it
[01:21] <exceswater> it updates some stuff
[01:21] <shogo> what happens?
[01:21] <exceswater> done
[01:22] <shogo> well, then u got sources :)
[01:22] <exceswater> and now
[01:22] <waylandbill> I think too many people are "asking the planet" over at yahoo... their login functionality is blown.
[01:22] <waylandbill> exceswater: then that file  wasn'
[01:22] <waylandbill> t empty
[01:22] <exceswater> oic
[01:22] <exceswater> i'll just leave it like that
[01:22] <exceswater> i dunno what to do
[01:23] <exceswater> so i do nothing
[01:23] <exceswater> :D
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> waylandbill: definately
[01:33] <nik> how to find out which process is writing/reading on hdd?
[01:34] <exceswater> anyone here has problems connecting to yahoo
[01:34] <exceswater> with kopete
[01:34] <exceswater>  ?
[01:35] <exceswater> i cannot make it work
[01:36] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> mine sais connected , so i guess its working
[01:37] <waylandbill> exceswater: told ya earlier... yahoo having problems
[01:37] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yup , its is
[01:37] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> its trying to connect , its not connected
[01:37] <waylandbill> although, mine just connected..
[01:38] <waylandbill> must be they are just getting it fixed
[01:39] <exceswater> yup
[01:39] <exceswater> same 2 me
[01:39] <waylandbill> nik: that would be at the kernel level.
[01:39] <rigonatti> hi all .....I was usin a aplication (terminal script) that looks for all disks and auto mount all disks (FAT and others partitions) is something like : diskmount ...diskmounter....Anybody knows that ?
[01:40] <waylandbill> nik: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[01:41] <exceswater> what i should change in repositories so my drivers for nvidia not be restricted
[01:42] <nikhatzi> Hello!
[01:42] <nikhatzi> I need help!
[01:42] <nikhatzi> i installed
[01:42] <nikhatzi> kubuntu 6.06 from live cd
[01:42] <nikhatzi> and i try to install ndiswrapper
[01:42] <rigonatti> nikhatzi ... pls write your complete question ...
[01:43] <nik> waylandbill: everything is slow because some process reads/writes from hdd (it's loud)...there is actually no desktop performance available..
[01:43] <nikhatzi> i try to install ndiswrapper, but even though i installed gcc and binutils, it when i give the tag "sudo make" is says command not found
[01:44] <rigonatti> nikhatzi try automak
[01:44] <nikhatzi> i tried to install build-essential as i saw on the forum, but it says "packages not found"
[01:44] <rigonatti> automake
[01:44] <nikhatzi> how can i use this? i don't know much...
[01:44] <YaH00> http://static.flickr.com/64/167011569_837bc20969_b.jpg
[01:46] <waylandbill> nik: I'm assuming an older computer.. all you can do is stop the processes you don't need running.
[01:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> nikhatzi: maybe you need to install the basic compiler package , i dont know what its called but i know i came acress this when reading something
[01:48] <nikhatzi> thank you very much for your help, i search google for further details!
[01:48] <rigonatti> nikhatzi enter the folder then try automake
[01:48] <waylandbill> nikhatzi: it's definately build-essential that you want
[01:48] <Bassetts> hi all
[01:49] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> nikhatzi: yeh , the build-essentail thing
[01:49] <nikhatzi> where can i download the package?
[01:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> nikhatzi: apt-get install build-essential  , i think that should work , but you might need to have the right repos enabled
[01:50] <barry> hi all could someone help me with a vpn problem?
[01:51] <nikhatzi> i tried the tag, but it says "Package not found"
[01:51] <nikhatzi> where can i find repos to add?
[01:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> nikhatzi: build-essentials
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> build-essential
[01:52] <Bassetts> hi, i submitted a bug a while ago about when i click "close current session" my pc shutsdown, i got told we needed more info so i added it, but nothing has happened since
[01:52] <nikhatzi> the same message...
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> It is in main you should have to enable anything at all
[01:53] <waylandbill> maybe an apt-get update will help...
[01:54] <exceswater> hey
[01:54] <exceswater> who can help me with nvidia drivers
[01:54] <exceswater> i dunno how to change repositories
[01:54] <exceswater> to make nvidia drivers unrestricted
[01:55] <waylandbill> it's probably resitricted for a reason. Get the binary from nvidia
[01:56] <imbrandon> waylandbill,  NO not good way to do it
[01:56] <imbrandon> exceswater,
[01:56] <exceswater> yup
[01:56] <imbrandon> do you have universe and multiverse enabled ?
[01:57] <exceswater> i dunno how to change them
[01:57] <imbrandon> type " kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:57] <exceswater> it sounds stupid
[01:57] <imbrandon> ok i'll help you just type that
[01:57] <imbrandon> no quotes
[01:57] <exceswater> 10x
[01:57] <waylandbill> exceswater: uncomment then in /etc/apt/sources.llist and don't say it's empty this time. :-D
[01:57] <imbrandon> exceswater, got that open?
[01:58] <exceswater> yes
[01:58] <imbrandon> ok erase everything thing in there and paste the contents of this file in there http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list
[01:58] <imbrandon> tell me when you have that done
[02:01] <exceswater> ok
[02:01] <exceswater> done
[02:01] <imbrandon> exceswater, now type " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx " without the quotes .....
[02:01] <exceswater> pasted that
[02:01] <imbrandon> save it
[02:01] <exceswater> ok
[02:01] <exceswater> done
[02:01] <exceswater> saved
[02:01] <imbrandon> and type what i have up there ^^
[02:01] <imbrandon> exceswater, now type " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx " without the quotes .....
[02:02] <imbrandon> when thats done let me know
[02:05] <waylandbill> imbrandon: yay! you got the sources.list updated for him
[02:05] <imbrandon> heh
[02:06] <exceswater> OK
[02:06] <imbrandon> waylandbill, please dont recomend getting the nividia binarys from the nvidia website to people, especialy new people , it will just break the next time theres a kernel update if installed that way
[02:06] <exceswater> DONE THAT TOO
[02:06] <imbrandon> exceswater, ok now type ...
[02:07] <waylandbill> imbrandon: no prob.
[02:07] <imbrandon> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ( and choose nvida NOT nv that it has by default )
[02:07] <imbrandon> err
[02:07] <imbrandon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ( and choose nvida NOT nv that it has by default )
[02:07] <imbrandon> the rest of the options can be left at what it defaults to
[02:08] <imbrandon> exceswater, after that tell me, there is just one last thing to do
[02:08] <Bassetts> id use KDE if it wasnt so buggy for me, i prefer it =(
[02:08] <imbrandon> Bassetts, please dont troll, is there a specific prblem you would like help with ?
[02:09] <waylandbill> exactly
[02:09] <exceswater> DONE THAT TOO
[02:09] <waylandbill> imbrandon: isn't it true that the driver needs to be reinstalled when the kernel is updated anyway?
[02:10] <Bassetts> imbrandon: im not, sorry i was just commenting
[02:10] <exceswater> sorry for caps
[02:10] <Bassetts> imbrandon: theres a few things like when i logout it turns off my pc after hanging at the usplash for a while
[02:10] <imbrandon> exceswater, ok now " sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade " when thats done , reboot and you'll be in nvidia heaven
[02:10] <imbrandon> waylandbill, not if installed via apt-get
[02:11] <waylandbill> imbrandon: ok. I thought it would. learned somethin new
[02:12] <imbrandon> Bassetts, if you have files a comprehensive bug report it will be fixed, you just cant expect it overnight ( special since most of the core devs are in meetings this week )
[02:13] <exceswater> imbrandon thanks you very much
[02:13] <Bassetts> imbrandon: i filed a bug
[02:13] <imbrandon> exceswater, np
[02:14] <rigonatti> hi all ...does anyone here can help me with automatix ? I got a "keyserver error"
[02:14] <imbrandon> Bassetts, then thats the best you can do besides write a pacth your self , now just wait for updates
[02:14] <Bassetts> it was my first bug report though and i didnt really know how to do it
[02:14] <exceswater> !flashplayer
[02:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about flashplayer
[02:14] <exceswater> !flash
[02:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:14] <waylandbill> imbrandon: that true for ATI's driver as well?
[02:14] <imbrandon> rigonatti, i would recommend to try easyubuntu not automatic
[02:14] <imbrandon> waylandbill, yea
[02:14] <rigonatti> imbrando why ?
[02:14] <rigonatti> !easyubuntu
[02:14] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:15] <Bassetts> imbrandon: is there a place where i can monitor fixes that are released?
[02:16] <slow-motion> bbl
[02:16] <imbrandon> Bassetts, the -changes mailing list
[02:16] <Bassetts> ok
[02:16] <imbrandon> Bassetts, http://lists.ubuntu.com
[02:16] <Bassetts> ill setup another email though so my indox isnt drowned
[02:18] <jeroanmo> any good sites on help to installing 3d video drivers in ubuntu
[02:18] <railk_> the kubuntu wiki
[02:18] <jeroanmo> thanks
[02:19] <exceswater> one more question
[02:19] <jeroanmo> yes?
[02:19] <exceswater> how can i install flash plugin for konqueror
[02:19] <waylandbill> imbrandon: okay... I must've been in dorkdom or something.. of course, since a apt-get update and then upgrade would install both. I guess I'm no longer asleep at the wheel. :-D
[02:19] <jeroanmo> o ha
[02:20] <pcfan> Hi all, how can I know what commands are executed by a program (not by a script....)?
[02:21] <railk> pcfan: debug it or disassemble it...
[02:22] <waylandbill> exceswater: after flashplugin-nonfree is installed, configure konq and tell it to scan for new plugins
[02:22] <pcfan> and how do I to that ?
[02:23] <nikhatzi> hi again! i think solved the problem. None of the repositories was enabled in the list....
[02:23] <nikhatzi> :-)
[02:23] <nikhatzi> i enabled them, and now i update everything!
[02:23] <nikhatzi> thank you for your help!
[02:24] <threat> [4295337.376000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host controller process error, something bad happened!
[02:24] <threat> [4295337.376000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host system error, PCI problems?
[02:24] <Kejk_PL> Hi, is CUPS usable now or still doesn't work?
[02:24] <exceswater> waylandbill: please tell me how to install flashplugin nonfree
[02:24] <exceswater> ?
[02:25] <exceswater> and why it's non free ?
[02:25] <waylandbill> exceswater: not that you have the repos config'd just do
[02:25] <Kejk_PL> because is IS non free (as in reedom)
[02:25] <Kejk_PL> */freedom
[02:25] <waylandbill> exceswater: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[02:25] <railk> free as in speech ;)
[02:25] <exceswater> lo.
[02:25] <exceswater> lol
[02:26] <exceswater> funny people here...
[02:26] <Kejk_PL> exceswater: google: flash ubuntu
[02:26] <waylandbill> exceswater: not free, cause of its license
[02:26] <railk> exceswater: its called "geek"
[02:26] <exceswater> this means you have to buy it
[02:26] <exceswater> ?
[02:26] <railk> no
[02:26] <exceswater> not really
[02:26] <threat> any ideas?
[02:26] <waylandbill> exceswater: no. it's free but it's not
[02:26] <exceswater> i am just beginner in kubuntu
[02:26] <exceswater> :D
[02:26] <exceswater> what is free and what is not to this plugin
[02:27] <Kejk_PL> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[02:28] <waylandbill> exceswater: free (no cost to download) but not free (license terms)
[02:28] <railk> Kejk_PL: he wants it for konquerer i believe..
[02:28] <exceswater> yup
[02:28] <exceswater> aha
[02:28] <exceswater> my problem is that i live in Romania
[02:28] <railk> of course, you could just switch to firefox
[02:28] <exceswater> :D err
[02:28] <Kejk_PL> railk: not a problem
[02:28] <exceswater> and i just installed kubuntu
[02:29] <exceswater> so i cannot have problems with cops
[02:29] <exceswater> :D
[02:29] <exceswater> got me
[02:29] <exceswater> they are not so smart... but i don't wanna disobey the law
[02:29] <exceswater>  :d
[02:29] <exceswater> so i have free os: kubuntu
[02:29] <exceswater> free games: warsow and wolfenstein et
[02:29] <exceswater> etc
[02:29] <exceswater> free email app
[02:30] <exceswater> so on
[02:30] <exceswater> :d
[02:30] <exceswater> i don't wanna have something in my pc that is not free
[02:30] <exceswater> i still cry for my collection of mp3
[02:30] <exceswater> but that's life :D
[02:30] <waylandbill> firefox will find the flash... konquer just needs to be told. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[02:30] <exceswater> c'est la querre
[02:30] <waylandbill> exceswater: I agree. I prefer free and open too.
[02:31] <exceswater> and i wanna know what that non free means
[02:31] <raphink> exceswater: tu peux convertir tes mp3 en ogg
[02:32] <raphink> you're free to choose to use non free stuff
[02:32] <exceswater> no no no
[02:32] <exceswater> it's illegal to have music
[02:32] <exceswater> :D
[02:32] <raphink> hehe
[02:32] <waylandbill> exceswater: I'm looking at the EULA. It's non-free cause you cannot alter and redistribute it.
[02:32] <raphink> http://www.musique-libre.org
[02:32] <exceswater> and if i don't alter it
[02:32] <exceswater>  ? ? ?
[02:32] <exceswater> it's ok to have it ?
[02:33] <waylandbill> exceswater: you cannot make derivatives, or develop new technology from it.
[02:33] <exceswater> lol
[02:33] <exceswater> i don't even think about that
[02:33] <exceswater> i am not clear with kubuntu
[02:33] <waylandbill> exceswater: it's legal for you to install and use it in your PC though.
[02:33] <exceswater> i won;t start building programs
[02:33] <exceswater> aha
[02:33] <exceswater> 10x
[02:33] <exceswater> :D
[02:34] <exceswater> i will
[02:34] <exceswater> we have big problems here with licencies
[02:34] <exceswater> :D
[02:34] <exceswater> when cops were searching at a shop for piracy...
[02:34] <exceswater> they were told to confiscate any support for piracy
[02:35] <waylandbill> exceswater: It's a proprietary license that doesn't meet free and open licensing (which is why you have to enable a special repo)
[02:35] <exceswater> and they were trying to confiscate a fridge...
[02:35] <exceswater> because some pirated cd's were on the fridge
[02:35] <raphink> lol
[02:35] <exceswater> or they confiscated some CLEANING CD'S
[02:35] <exceswater> because they said they are pirated
[02:35] <exceswater> :d
[02:35] <raphink> heh
[02:36] <waylandbill> exceswater: The distro itself has all free and open software. You could make your own distro modifications and give it to someone else under a new name if you desired.
[02:36] <raphink> don't download pirated cleaning CDs on the net
[02:36] <exceswater> :D
[02:36] <exceswater> yup :d
[02:36] <exceswater> nice
[02:36] <exceswater> i can modify the wallpaper of kubuntu
[02:36] <exceswater> and make exces ubuntu :D
[02:36] <exceswater> nice new distro
[02:36] <exceswater> :D
[02:36] <exceswater> and sell it :D
[02:36] <waylandbill> but... you can't include flashplayer in it if you did that.
[02:37] <exceswater> ok
[02:37] <exceswater> i will
[02:37] <exceswater> please now buy my distro :d
[02:37] <exceswater> only 2 euro
[02:37] <waylandbill> now you understand what is meant by free?
[02:37] <raphink> waylandbill: you can, if you pay for the distribution of it
[02:37] <exceswater> so i can buy another car
[02:37] <exceswater> :D
[02:37] <exceswater> yeap
[02:37] <exceswater> i just like porsche 911
[02:37] <exceswater> :d
[02:37] <exceswater> ooo
[02:37] <exceswater> i just remembered
[02:37] <waylandbill> raphink: that's true. if you paid royalties.
[02:38] <exceswater> are here WOW players ?
[02:38] <raphink> yep waylandbill
[02:38] <raphink> that's what mandriva does e.g.
[02:38] <exceswater> and please tell me about libre music
[02:38] <raphink> http://www.musique-libre.org is libre music exceswater
[02:39] <exceswater> but can i download music from there ?
[02:39] <exceswater> or just listen online :d
[02:39] <exceswater> ? ? ?
[02:39] <raphink> there's also http://jamendo.ratiatum.com/
[02:39] <raphink> both exceswater
[02:39] <exceswater> i prefer something in english
[02:40] <raphink> heh
[02:40] <waylandbill> :)
[02:40] <raphink> the problem is that if you serach in english
[02:40] <exceswater> i know a little bit more english than french
[02:40] <raphink> you'll find free music
[02:40] <raphink> as in free beer
[02:40] <exceswater> yes ?
[02:40] <raphink> but not libre music
[02:40] <exceswater> oic
[02:40] <exceswater> i'm not so used to be free :d
[02:40] <raphink> that's the pb with english
[02:40] <waylandbill> I love free beer though.
[02:40] <exceswater> we had our "revolucion" only 16 years ago :D
[02:40] <raphink> you're from romania right?
[02:41] <exceswater> yup
[02:41] <raphink> ok
[02:41] <exceswater> land of dracula
[02:41] <exceswater> :D
[02:41] <raphink> haha
[02:41] <waylandbill> hehe
[02:41] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> romania enforces us copyright laws?/
[02:41] <exceswater> now it;s kinda draculazy land
[02:41] <exceswater> :D
[02:42] <exceswater> hehe
[02:42] <exceswater> now amarok won't play mp3's
[02:43] <exceswater> i know about !mp3
[02:43] <raphink> exceswater: you have to install libxine-extracodecs for that
[02:43] <exceswater> that's the second cute thing about installing kubuntu :d
[02:43] <exceswater> now i'm updating things for nvidia
[02:43] <raphink> exceswater: is this your first day on linux?
[02:43] <exceswater> third
[02:44] <exceswater> fourth
[02:44] <exceswater> :D
[02:44] <raphink> hehe
[02:44] <raphink> I can tell
[02:44] <exceswater> some like that
[02:44] <exceswater> :D
[02:44] <raphink> you seem so excited about it :)
[02:44] <exceswater> i can tell too
[02:44] <exceswater> and i am noob
[02:44] <exceswater> :D
[02:44] <raphink> hehe
[02:44] <exceswater> i like it
[02:44] <exceswater> :D
[02:44] <raphink> that's good :)
[02:44] <waylandbill> you need libmad0 too
[02:44] <exceswater> i like the feeling
[02:44] <raphink> waylandbill: not on dapper
[02:44] <waylandbill> ok
[02:44] <raphink> it's installed as a dependency now iirc
[02:44] <exceswater> it's like driving a Cadillac on a street full of Trabants
[02:44] <exceswater> :D
[02:44] <raphink> exceswater: :)
[02:44] <exceswater> aaa
[02:45] <exceswater> what cars do you people have ?
[02:45] <raphink> haha
[02:45] <raphink> I have an opel corsa
[02:45] <raphink> 1986 model
[02:45] <raphink> )
[02:45] <raphink> :)
[02:45] <waylandbill> gasoline powered. :-)
[02:45] <exceswater> lol
[02:46] <exceswater> what car i mean like: toyota, ford
[02:46] <exceswater> etc
[02:46] <exceswater> :D
[02:46] <waylandbill> Kia and Dodge
[02:46] <exceswater> and tell me how to install those codecs please
[02:46] <jeff_> opel is like a ford etc
[02:46] <exceswater> nice dodge
[02:46] <exceswater> yup
[02:46] <exceswater> you all are americans ?
[02:46] <jeff_> use adept
[02:46] <raphink> exceswater: I'm french
[02:46] <waylandbill> I am
[02:46] <exceswater> corsa :D
[02:46] <exceswater> nice
[02:46] <exceswater> sporty
[02:46] <exceswater> :D
[02:47] <raphink> exceswater: you can either use adept or the command line : `sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs`
[02:47] <raphink> linuxbambi: lol
[02:47] <waylandbill> exceswater: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:47] <exceswater> ok
[02:47] <exceswater> 10x
[02:47] <exceswater> how is america ?
[02:47] <raphink> exceswater: you need to activate multiverse for that, though
[02:47] <linuxbambi> hi everybody
[02:47] <exceswater> it's a nice place to live ?
[02:47] <exceswater> i think i did
[02:47] <raphink> exceswater: did you do that already?
[02:47] <raphink> ok
[02:47] <exceswater> i hope i did :d
[02:48] <linuxbambi> just installed cedega and wanted to install Steam, but the terminal came up with a failure
[02:48] <raphink> hehe
[02:48] <exceswater> first days of kubuntu is like seducing a japanese girls
[02:48] <exceswater> first days of kubuntu is like seducing a japanese girl
[02:48] <raphink> exceswater: did you edit your /etc/sources.list?
[02:48] <jeff_> right now i would rather be in germany
[02:48] <waylandbill> raphink: he did earlier
[02:48] <raphink> waylandbill: ok :)
[02:48] <jeff_> for the WC
[02:48] <exceswater> who speaks only japanese... and you speak english
[02:48] <exceswater> hehe
[02:48] <raphink> I'd like to be in Paris now, for the UDS
[02:48] <exceswater> i hate football
[02:48] <exceswater> :d
[02:49] <exceswater> i like to be in miami
[02:49] <exceswater> for the sun
[02:49] <raphink> oh there's sun here, too
[02:49] <exceswater> football is kinda booring for me
[02:49] <exceswater> :d
[02:49] <jeff_> no sun in france
[02:49] <exceswater> really booring
[02:49] <raphink> jeff_: not today, taht's right but usually there is
[02:49] <jeff_> hehe
[02:49] <raphink> this place is famous for the sun, sea and mountains
[02:49] <raphink> ;)
[02:49] <exceswater> i better watch a nice movie
[02:49] <exceswater> heh
[02:50] <exceswater> you guys should come to Romania
[02:50] <exceswater> :D
[02:50] <exceswater> nice country
[02:50] <raphink> indeed
[02:50] <raphink> I'd like to
[02:50] <exceswater> nice girls
[02:50] <exceswater> oh
[02:50] <jeff_> what is type of goverment now
[02:50] <exceswater> did i said nice
[02:50] <exceswater> ?
[02:50] <exceswater> beautifull
[02:50] <exceswater> lol
[02:50] <exceswater> selfish  government
[02:51] <exceswater> they steal for themselves
[02:51] <exceswater> :D
[02:51] <jeff_> best kind
[02:51] <exceswater> like in all countryes
[02:51] <exceswater> :D
[02:51] <jeff_> no gove handouts
[02:51] <jeff_> no programs
[02:51] <linuxbambi> lol stupid spam
[02:51] <exceswater> nothing good here
[02:51] <exceswater> they sell everything... for their profit
[02:52] <jeff_> way it should be
[02:52] <exceswater> we even have goldmines
[02:52] <exceswater> they want to sell them
[02:52] <exceswater> :D
[02:52] <exceswater> hehe
[02:52] <jeff_> really
[02:52] <exceswater> screw them
[02:52] <linuxbambi> u should rename to excesflood
[02:52] <exceswater> nice...
[02:53] <exceswater> we had enough floods
[02:53] <exceswater> :D
[02:53] <linuxbambi> then stop it
[02:53] <exceswater> flood is kinda exceswater
[02:53] <exceswater> i am aquarius
[02:53] <exceswater> that's why :D this nick
[02:53] <exceswater> :D
[02:53] <linuxbambi> whatever -  i don't care but stop spamming the channel
[02:54] <exceswater> oic
[02:54] <jeff_> has anyone used PCLinuxOS
[02:54] <exceswater> sorry
[02:54] <exceswater> no more spam... i shut up
[02:54] <exceswater> excuse me
[02:55] <jeff_> has anyone used PCLinuxOS
[02:55] <waylandbill> exceswater: did you get flashplayer running in Konq?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> !enter
[02:55] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:55] <Hobbsee> jeff_: no
[02:55] <jeff_> I recently switched from PCLinux to Kubuntu--so far I like it better
[02:56] <jeff_> But adept's interface sucks
[02:56] <exceswater> not yet..  i am updating things for nvidia drivers to work waylandbill... i was making friends ... but some ppl say i flood channel :D
[02:57] <waylandbill> well, there are better channels for that purpose.
[02:57] <phimic> hi all
[02:57] <jeff_> exceswater--once you have the repostories opened I find you can get things worknig fairly easy
[02:58] <jeff_> I can't get amorak to play CD's though
[02:59] <exceswater> it's amarok. ... and it's about mp3 codecs
[02:59] <exceswater> i had same problem
[02:59] <exceswater> try :sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:59] <jeff_> installed
[02:59] <exceswater> and  ? ? ??
[02:59] <jeff_> no good
[02:59] <exceswater> it just jumps over the mp3 without really playing it ?
[03:00] <jeff_> not sure I was talking about off a cd
[03:00] <waylandbill> jeff_: I have the problem of CD's playing to. I lack an analog CD cable to sound card. I just rip the tracks instead.
[03:00] <jeff_> I take that back it plays MP3 fine
[03:00] <jeff_> that could be it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:00] <exceswater> jeff_: ask apologizes to Amarok :D
[03:01] <exceswater> yes... could be the cable missing from cd rom to sound card :D
[03:01] <jeff_> the cable is on the sound card right?
[03:01] <jeff_> I bet that's it
[03:01] <waylandbill> jeff_: I should say that my integrated sound card doesn't have a location for the cable.
[03:02] <jeff_> yea
[03:02] <jeff_> that stinks
[03:02] <exceswater> it should be a cable from cd rom to sound board
[03:02] <exceswater> come here
[03:02] <exceswater> i give u that cable
[03:02] <exceswater> :D
[03:03] <jeff_> i'll pop right over
[03:03] <exceswater> yup mate... dcc yourself 2 romania
[03:03] <exceswater> ;)
[03:03] <jeff_> :)
[03:04] <waylandbill> jeff_: doesn't bug me too much, since I just use Konqueror to rip the tracks fairly easily.
[03:05] <jeff_> just rip to mp3?
[03:06] <jeff_> havent tried it---i'll give it a go.
[03:06] <burepe1> I am taking a hdb1 drive from my old comp with 2 drives to make it the main one in a new kubuntu install. Is the fact that it is "hdb1" going to cause a problem? how do I change it to "hda1"?
[03:06] <waylandbill> lately Konq shows you all the formats you can rip too right in the window when viewing the CD.
[03:06] <jeff_> ok
[03:07] <waylandbill> jeff_: of course, if you have the backend for your desired format installed.
[03:07] <jeff_> loading cd now
[03:08] <pssc> anyone here able to update http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[03:08] <jeff_> says extract and encode tracks---guess thats it
[03:08] <waylandbill> burepe1: you need to install grub (modified) in that drive and you have to change the fstab.
[03:09] <waylandbill> jeff_: I actually stumbled on those new CD features one day. Hadn't known for a long time.
[03:10] <jeff_> cool
[03:10] <jeff_> got error mesg
[03:10] <jeff_> No encoder has been selected.
[03:10] <jeff_> Please select an encoder in the configuration.
[03:18] <phimic> my notebook does not support suspend to mem, so i installed a kernel which supports suspend2
[03:19] <phimic> how can i assing the shortcut FN+ESC to the hibernate command
[03:19] <paxmax> ooo
[03:20] <paxmax> iatalianiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:20] <tackat> you can use kmenuedit or assign it somewhere in /etc/.../acpi/... iirc
[03:21] <tackat>  /etc/acpi/events
[03:23] <tackat> phimic: did that answer your Q?
[03:28] <jeff_> got it working thks
[03:29] <exceswater> hey
[03:29] <exceswater> jeff
[03:29] <exceswater> install 3ddesk
[03:29] <exceswater> u know it ?
[03:31] <waylandbill> is that the one with the animation when you switch desktops?
[03:33] <exceswater> yup
[03:33] <exceswater> very nice
[03:34] <waylandbill> was thinking of trying at home. this pc's a slug. didn't know what I'd gain with the eyecandy though.
[03:34] <exceswater> about flashplayer-nonfree
[03:34] <GullyFoyle> is there a deb2targz program like rpm2targz?
[03:34] <exceswater> it says cannot find it
[03:35] <Hobbsee> GullyFoyle: just grab the source, instead of the deb file...
[03:35] <exceswater> what i can do ?
[03:35] <waylandbill> flashplugin-nonfree
[03:36] <exceswater> got it
[03:36] <exceswater> 10x
[03:36] <waylandbill> exceswater: don't forget to config konq telling it to scan for new plugins
[03:37] <exceswater> k
[03:37] <exceswater> :D
[03:38] <exceswater> and one last thing
[03:38] <exceswater> how can i add some commands to konversation
[03:38] <Hobbsee> exceswater: as in, aliases?
[03:38] <exceswater> so i can log in automatically when i start iit
[03:38] <exceswater> no
[03:38] <Hobbsee> exceswater: hit f2
[03:38] <Hobbsee> get the server you want, hit connect at startup
[03:38] <exceswater> yes ?
[03:39] <waylandbill> in ther server config, enter your nickserv password in the password entry
[03:39] <exceswater> i want to add something like: /nick exceswater and /msg nickserv identify pass
[03:39] <exceswater> ok
[03:39] <exceswater> 10x
[03:39] <exceswater> :D
[03:40] <exceswater> restart
[03:40] <exceswater> for nvidia and libxine
[03:40] <Hobbsee> exceswater: did you find it?
[03:40] <exceswater> yup
[03:40] <exceswater> smart noob
[03:40] <exceswater> 10x
[03:40] <Hobbsee> nice
[03:40] <exceswater> hehe
[03:40] <exceswater> flash is ok
[03:40] <exceswater> running
[03:40] <exceswater> 10x guys
[03:40] <exceswater> restart
[03:40] <exceswater> :D
[03:40] <waylandbill> I find it confusing that the field is just "Password" since servers can accept user passwords
[03:41] <phimic> thanks tackat
[03:42] <knubbe> is there any way to make eclipse faster? i think its really slow on my laptop.
[03:43] <GullyFoyle> how do i get my history in konqueror?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> GullyFoyle: hit f9, then hit the history icon
[03:46] <GullyFoyle> Hobbsee: ah thanks
[03:46] <rigonatti> hi all ....does anyone now how to instal make... makeisntall and etc?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[03:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[03:47] <rigonatti> !make
[03:48] <exceswater> hey
[03:48] <exceswater> please tell me where can i bind some keys to 3ddesk
[03:49] <eightiesk> !mp3
[03:49] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:49] <exceswater> i don't remember
[03:49] <exceswater> !bind
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about bind
[03:49] <apokryphos> exceswater: kcontrol, accessilbity... input actions? Or something
[03:49] <raphink> 3ddesk eats memory for nothing
[03:50] <apokryphos> raphink: nah, it looks cool if you don't have xgl+compiz 8)
[03:50] <GullyFoyle> i'm using this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188198.html  to try to get 32bit flash working with 64bit konq, but at one point the guy says to open some files with ark to edit them, but the files  are .debs! wtf. ark can't open .debs. any body got an idea?
[03:50] <apokryphos> for a few seconds, anyway
[03:50] <raphink> xgl has the same effects instead it uses your 3D card directly
[03:50] <raphink> I mean + compiz
[03:50] <apokryphos> GullyFoyle: it can
[03:50] <exceswater> life is so booring
[03:50] <raphink> apokryphos: exactly
[03:50] <exceswater> why not make it look nice
[03:50] <apokryphos> exceswater: you should, but try the proper ways first.
[03:50] <apokryphos> exceswater: what card do you have?
[03:53] <exceswater> nvidia
[03:53] <exceswater> why
[03:53] <exceswater> done it
[03:53] <exceswater> 10x
[03:53] <exceswater> why apokryphos
[03:54] <exceswater> what can i do more
[03:54] <exceswater> some themes and things like that ?
[03:54] <apokryphos> exceswater: what nvidia?
[03:54] <exceswater> geforce 4mx 440
[03:54] <exceswater> 64 ram
[03:54] <exceswater> this is my work pc
[03:54] <exceswater>  :d
[03:54] <eightiesk> how do i get restricted formats for dapper it doesn't say
[03:55] <apokryphos> !faq
[03:55] <apokryphos> eightiesk: check there
[03:55] <exceswater> !themes
[03:55] <ubotu> faq is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[03:55] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:55] <exceswater> apokryphos: what can i do more ?
[03:55] <GullyFoyle> ark won't open .debs for me it brings up an error msg saying "this utility is not in your PATH"
[03:56] <GullyFoyle> so whatever prog that ark is a frontend for is not in my PATH because ark itself IS in myPATH
[03:56] <eightiesk> apokryphos: where?
[03:56] <waylandbill> GullyFoyle: trying to view the deb or install it?
[03:57] <eightiesk> !mp3
[03:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:57] <apokryphos> exceswater: hm, looks like you can't get it working there then
[03:57] <apokryphos> exceswater: yes, I recommend getting some nice stuff from http://kdelook.org
[03:57] <GullyFoyle> waylandbill: i'm trying to edit the .debs to get 32bit flash working in 64bit konq
[03:57] <apokryphos> eightiesk: http://kdelook.org, there
[03:57] <exceswater> i am
[03:57] <apokryphos> eightiesk: also, you can use the bot in /msg :)
[03:57] <exceswater> thanks
[03:58] <apokryphos> GullyFoyle: extract it with dpkg
[03:58] <GullyFoyle> what;s the flag to extract it or should i wade thru the mnapage?
[03:58] <apokryphos> man dpkg
[03:59] <waylandbill> man dpkg | grep extract
[03:59] <apokryphos> GullyFoyle: you shouldn't have to wade all the way through; just man, then use / to search :P
[03:59] <GullyFoyle> hrm, dpkg-deb -x looks like the one
[03:59] <apokryphos> yes
[03:59] <GullyFoyle> ok here goes
[04:00] <edneymatias> morning all!
[04:00] <GullyFoyle> that's prolly why ark wouldnt open the .deb cuz dpkg needs sudo
[04:01] <GullyFoyle> ark prolly calls dpkg
[04:01] <waylandbill> could always call with kdesu
[04:01] <apokryphos> it needs sudo to extract? Don't think so..
[04:01] <apokryphos> dpkg the command itself doesn't need sudo, it only needs it for a few operations
[04:01] <rigonatti> hi all
[04:01] <apokryphos> hi
[04:02] <rigonatti> how do i set the Firefox to be the default app to web browser?
[04:02] <exceswater> apokryphos: i found a nice screen saver there
[04:02] <apokryphos> rigonatti: from system settings; k menu -> system settings
[04:02] <apokryphos> exceswater: which one?
[04:02] <exceswater> but i just don't know how to instll int
[04:02] <GullyFoyle> well ark would not open the .deb that's all i know
[04:02] <exceswater> qstars
[04:03] <waylandbill> GullyFoyle: I'd think you'd only need sudo if you were extracting to a place you normally couldn't
[04:04] <exceswater> it's a tar.gz file
[04:04] <exceswater> it's an archive
[04:04] <apokryphos> exceswater: link?
[04:04] <waylandbill> exceswater: you got a source archive?
[04:04] <exceswater> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=10066
[04:04] <GullyFoyle> waylandbill: ark gave error msg that the utility wasn't in my PATH, even though ark itself (the GUI) was open
[04:04] <exceswater> it's downloading
[04:04] <GullyFoyle> i gotta go
[04:04] <exceswater> not so big ... i hope it's nice
[04:05] <rigonatti> apkryphos where at settings ?
[04:05] <exceswater> it's downloading so slow... 1,2 k/s
[04:05] <exceswater> ugly
[04:06] <waylandbill> rigonatti: KDE Components
[04:07] <apokryphos> rigonatti: is there not something called input actions under accessibility?
[04:07] <exceswater> apokryphos: got an ideea about how to install it ?
[04:08] <apokryphos> exceswater: does it have a README file?
[04:08] <exceswater> dunno yet
[04:08] <exceswater> just a sec
[04:08] <exceswater> to complete download
[04:16] <rigonatti> apokryphos: sorry ...i was trying to install SynCE
[04:18] <rigonatti> Why Synce dont works fine =(
[04:19] <rigonatti> !synce
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about synce
[04:20] <slow-motion> re
[04:22] <bleaked> so here's a bizarre kde question: i have setup up 'quick file browswer' kicker buttons to directories i frequent (you click them, they open to directory x -- it's a kicker applet).  recently i had installed the ubuntu-desktop package to try out gnome..after a few days i removed the package (installed via aptitiude, so it should have removed gnome [though it doesn't appear to have grabbed everything, probably deps] ) -- now when i click on 
[04:26] <rigonatti> Does anyone here sync Kubuntu with PDA ?
[04:28] <exceswater> bye all
[04:29] <bleaked> bye, sir
[04:29] <rigonatti> does anyone know how the isntall the C compiles to use .configure and make ?
[04:30] <bleaked> rigonatti: install the build-essential package
[04:30] <rigonatti> bleaked: txs
[04:30] <bleaked> no prob
[04:31] <rigonatti> Does anyone use Synce or know where can i find RAKI (Synce for KDE )?
[04:31] <eightiesk> !opera
[04:31] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[04:32] <bleaked> rigonatti: i searched my package repository for 'raki', and i got the synce-kde package.
[04:32] <bleaked> idk if that's what you're looking for.
[04:34] <rigonatti> bleaked: estrange...i didnt find
[04:34] <motaba> hai
[04:34] <rigonatti> bleaked: dis use adept ?
[04:35] <bleaked> rigonatti: you might not have the universe repository enabled
[04:35] <rigonatti> im doing this
[04:35] <bleaked> i have every repo enabled purely for complete access to software.
[04:38] <rigonatti> bleaked: is installed ...strange taht RAki give me a error "Could not start dccm or dccm has exited."
[04:40] <Raven301> When I click on a http link konqueror launches ... I want firefox to launch ... I have change it in the kde components but still doesn't work? Any ideas ??
[04:40] <stefan_> Hello all
[04:40] <stefan_> I just tried to install otrs
[04:41] <stefan_> but when I go todomain.tld/otrs/installer.pl
[04:41] <rigonatti> !raki
[04:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about raki
[04:41] <stefan_> then I get the apache2 server error 500
[04:41] <stefan_> there is nothing in apache2 error.log
[04:42] <stefan_> can someone help?
[04:42] <bleaked> Raven301: restart the app that you're clicking from, shoudl work every time.
[04:43] <Raven301> ok I'll try that bleaked
[04:44] <bleaked> so here's a bizarre kde question: i have setup up 'quick file browswer' kicker buttons to directories i frequent (you click them, they open to directory x -- it's a kicker applet).  recently i had installed gnome to try it out..after a few days i removed it - now, literally since i have removed gnome, when i click on the quick links, regardless of if they're old, or i create new ones, konqueror appears to be loading in the taskbar, but no
[04:45] <geneo93> type it in terminal
[04:45] <railk> has kubuntu got multiple processor support?
[04:45] <geneo93> yes
[04:47] <Raven301> bleaked: Still doesn't work
[04:55] <robinsw> Hi, guys... Kubuntu's telling me that my max screen size is 1024x768, but I know that its higher... where can I change this?
[04:55] <JavaGeek> System Settings -> Display
[04:56] <_ryan> Hey all, need a little Java assistance.  I've got sun-java5 installed (I believe correctly) but when I do a "java -version" I'm still getting 1.4.2, any suggestions?
[04:56] <apokryphos> !faq
[04:56] <ubotu> faq is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[04:56] <apokryphos> robinsw: check that
[04:56] <robinsw> JavaGeek, it won't let me put it any higher than what it is.
[04:56] <robinsw> 1024x768, but it can go up to 1152x864
[04:56] <bleaked> Raven301: you changed to to say, /usr/bin/firefox ?
[04:56] <bleaked> Raven301: just firefox will not work
[04:57] <Raven301> oh ... is it not mozilla-firefox
[04:57] <robinsw> How do I restart the X server?
[04:57] <bleaked> Raven301: no, that's a legacy debian packge.
[04:57] <apokryphos> robinsw: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:58] <bleaked> robinsw: you can do it from the kdm login screen.. or simply ctrl-alt-backspace (this will kill everythign in X though)
[04:58] <Raven301> bleaked: /usr/bin/firefox didn't work either
[04:58] <robinsw> Bleaked, thanks.
[04:58] <gnomefreak> Raven301: firefox-bin is normal  if you installed a versiont hat did not come with the ubuntu version it changes to firefox instead of firefox-bin
[04:59] <_ryan> anybody have any tips on my java version issue?
[04:59] <bleaked> gnomefreak: good to know..
[04:59] <Raven301> ok gnomefreak
[04:59] <gnomefreak> _ryan: whats the issue?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> and if above applies its now in /opt/ instead of /usr/ if you follow the wiki
[05:00] <railk> my processor supports hyperthreading and i get the following lines in dmesg:
[05:00] <railk> [17179569.184000]  Processor #0 15:3 APIC version 20
[05:00] <railk> [17179569.184000]  ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02]  lapic_id[0x01]  enabled)
[05:00] <railk> [17179569.184000]  Processor #1 15:3 APIC version 20
[05:00] <railk> [17179569.184000]  WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[05:00] <JavaGeek> robinsw: Administrator mode -> Hardware -> Monitor -> Configure... -> select your monitor make/model/max aspect
[05:00] <robinsw> Cheers, JavaGeek
[05:01] <JavaGeek> robinsw: and it is cleaner if you log off and on the login screen do Menu -> Restart X-Server
[05:01] <_ryan> gnomefreak: I've got sun-java5 installed (I believe correctly) but I still get "1.4.2" when I do a "java -version"
[05:01] <gnomefreak> _ryan: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:01] <gnomefreak> _ryan: choose the new java
[05:01] <JavaGeek> ctrl-alt-backspace kills all the processes
[05:01] <robinsw> JavaGeek: OK, but where is the Hardware section? Am I looking in System Settings?
[05:01] <_ryan> cool, I'll give that a shot!  Thank you.
[05:02] <robinsw> Ah, got it
[05:02] <robinsw> Cheers.
[05:02] <gnomefreak> _ryan: update-alternatives is a system wide setting for defaults if you do sudo update-alternatives --all it will let you choose default for everything it knows about
[05:03] <railk> ... i also get (in dmesg) [17179583.292000]  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[05:03] <RadiantFire> can someone share with my why XF86AudioLower is not in the keysym list when I know very well it is
[05:04] <n3storm> hi everyone
[05:05] <n3storm> I have found something strange in Kubuntu Dapper
[05:05] <n3storm> When printing as a user I can't change printer settings
[05:05] <n3storm> like doble side printing and so
[05:05] <_ryan> gnomefreak: That is an awesome tip.  I'm going through --all now.  Any idea if I should use the Sun version of rmiregistry?
[05:05] <n3storm> am I missing something?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> _ryan: the new one i use the new one on all of the java ones
[05:06] <_ryan> cool, thanks again
[05:06] <gnomefreak> anytime
[05:07] <n3storm> should my user be in the lpadmin group?
[05:08] <Chozabu> gnomefreak, thanks! that really is a handy tip :D
[05:09] <gnomefreak> Chozabu: yw
[05:10] <RadiantFire> :-)
[05:10] <RadiantFire> so nice to see gnomefreak in the kubuntu channel :-)
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ;)
[05:11] <n3storm> I joined the lpadmin group and still cant choose my printer advanced options: resolution, color, dobleside printing
[05:11] <n3storm> is anybody having this problem?
[05:15] <bleaked> so here's a bizarre kde question: i have setup up 'quick file browswer' kicker buttons to directories i frequent (you click them, they open to directory x -- it's a kicker applet).  recently i had installed gnome to try it out..after a few days i removed it - now, literally since i have removed gnome, when i click on the quick links, regardless of if they're old, or i create new ones, konqueror appears to be loading in the taskbar, but no
[05:16] <RadiantFire> bleaked: when you "removed" gnome did you purge it or just remove?
[05:16] <RadiantFire> every so often gnome and kde don't play well together
[05:20] <rigonatti> Does anyone can help me with synce ?
[05:22] <rigonatti> Does anyone can help me with SynCE  ?
[05:23] <Raven301> bleaked: gnomefreak thanks for the help ... but didn't work
[05:25] <rigonatti> :(
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ok lets start again what are you trying to do Raven301 ?
[05:26] <Raven301> eg in thunderbird there is a html link I click on it and konqeror launches ... I'm trying to get firefox to launch as the default
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Raven301: ah easy
[05:27] <Raven301> ok
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Raven301: sudo update-alternatives --all  (--all because i cant remember if its x-www-browser or not)
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Raven301: took me a month to figure that out lol
[05:28] <Raven301> gnomefreak: thanks nice command
[05:29] <gnomefreak> Raven301: that should do it and i want to say its sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser but i dont remember if thats the section name or not
[05:30] <Raven301> gnomefreak: yes it is x-www-browser
[05:30] <Raven301> gnomefreak: big thanks
[05:30] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:31] <h3sp4wn> Raven301: I fixed that by adding user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/opt/firefox/firefox"); to prefs.js
[05:31] <Raven301> h3sp4wn: thanks too
[05:34] <pssc> anyone here able to update http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[05:36] <Hobbsee> pssc: yeah, where's the problem?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: can edit that
[05:37] <pssc> Hobbsee: Riddell: link for UK DVD's should be  http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/6.06/release/
[05:38] <geneo93> use the text installer for best resualts
[05:43] <Hhhhh> hello, how do I add a printer?
[05:43] <n3storm> Hhhhh: go to "system preferences" at the K menu
[05:44] <Hhhhh> heh, I should have thought of that :) thanks
[05:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> any linux gurus in here?  , i did apt-get autoclean and it removed some libs tha amarok 1.4.0 was using , i want to reinstall them but no sure how
[05:46] <geneo93> i doubt if that removed any libs
[05:46] <Chozabu> mark amarok for reinstall?
[05:46] <Chozabu> sorry, i dont know, but it may work
[05:46] <geneo93> it just clears cache after install
[05:48] <robinsw> Howdy, gang
[05:49] <robinsw> How can I directly edit the X configuration file?
[05:49] <dr_willis> vi /etc/xorg.conf
[05:49] <dr_willis> and have a blast
[05:49] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> maybe it didnt removed libs but it removed something because some scripts no longer work in amark
[05:50] <dr_willis> as root of course. :P
[05:50] <robinsw> lol
[05:50] <dr_willis> backup your existing xorg.conf first
[05:50] <robinsw> Can't get it to have 1152x768 75hz as a screen mode.
[05:50] <robinsw> Keep entering those values, but its giving nothing.
[05:50] <robinsw> There's lots of other xorg.confs with different numbers.
[05:50] <_manuel> echo "hello" > /dev/world
[05:50] <dr_willis> ive often used that x modeline generator web site
[05:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: did you do dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:50] <DarkRavenMixage> what does the kubuntu dvd contain????
[05:51] <dr_willis> it helped me set up my laptop/widescreen
[05:51] <robinsw> Erm...
[05:51] <robinsw> No?
[05:51] <robinsw> N0ctuRnal, what do I type/
[05:51] <robinsw> ?
[05:51] <_manuel> chmod 777 /dev/world
[05:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: do , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <rigonatti> does anyone here use SynCE or RAKi to sync Pocket PCs with Linux ?
[05:51] <enterprise> test
[05:51] <_manuel> chown people.people /dev/planet
[05:52] <robinsw> n0ctuRnal-fieNd, thanks!
[05:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: then configure it
[05:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: make sure you select the right driver etc
[05:52] <chavo> chown: `people.people': invalid user
[05:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: what video card /driver you use
[05:53] <cox377> Hey All
[05:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> hey
[05:53] <robinsw> n0c: GeForce 4 MX
[05:54] <DarkRavenMixage> what does the kubuntu dvd contain????
[05:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: if you installed the nvidia sriver you gonna have 2 different options to select fro9m the driver , the stock driver is nv , the one you should use is NVIDIA
[05:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> robinsw: hit tab to autocomplete nicknames you want to speak to
[05:55] <geneo93> main and restricted
[05:56] <elvstone> hello. does kubuntu come preinstalled with any firewall? e.g. does it block any ports by default? i'm trying to get the collaborative editor Gobby working behind a firewall, my router allows the traffic but my kubuntu machine seems to block it (TCP on port 6522).
[05:57] <elvstone> i'm not really Linux-literate, long time since i used it ;)
[05:57] <kuzmaster> hello all
[05:57] <elvstone> so question; if kubuntu really blocks all ports by default, how can i just open up TCP 6522?
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> I take it you are testing the forwarding from outside the network ?
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> Kubuntu doesn't block any ports by default
[05:58] <elvstone> yes, it's from another connection.
[05:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> the default install doesnt have a firewall
[05:59] <elvstone> hm. okay. guess i need to look further at my firewall config then.. hrm.
[05:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> if its blocked then possibly by your router  , or the isp maybe?
[05:59] <elvstone> would be surprised if ISP blocks it, maybe i just kludged with the fw rules..
[06:00] <Riddell> pssc: try now
[06:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> which firewall did you install?
[06:01] <elvstone> i just googled and found this article; http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/03/09/tuning-kubuntu.html, which says; "There is no option during installation to configure a firewall, and Kubuntu includes no graphical firewall configurators. Kubuntu installs with no open ports, so strictly speaking it doesn't need one.".. which lead me to believe it's the kubuntu machine blocking.
[06:01] <elvstone> the fw is an old obsd machine i have here at work.
[06:01] <bleaked> RadiantFire: sorry, the phone called... i had installed ubuntu-desktop via aptitude, then removed it the same way..
[06:01] <dr_willis> no open ports - because no services are using them?
[06:01] <dr_willis> im thinking  that info is lacking..
[06:02] <dr_willis> and their logic is faulty
[06:02] <elvstone> dr_willis: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6522            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[06:02] <elvstone> dr_willis: yea i think so too.
[06:02] <dr_willis> go to one of those port scanner web sites and sees
[06:02] <dr_willis> i used ktorrent and other things with out twiddling with any firewall
[06:02] <pssc> Riddell: thanks that's looking good now
[06:03] <Riddell> pssc: are you the guy who e-mailed me about it a while ago?
[06:03] <elvstone> yea. and i installed sshd and it runs fine without me having to open any port, so that's probably not it.. hrm.
[06:04] <elvstone> my friend who i'm trying out this collaborative editor with nmapped me from outside and said the port was filtered.
[06:04] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a way  to find out who made a certain driver or who maintains it?
[06:04] <elvstone> ah. just telneted from a machine inside the NAT and the port is open.
[06:05] <elvstone> so nevermind, problem is somewhere else.
[06:05] <elvstone> thx anyway.
[06:05] <pssc> Riddell: yeah that's me ;-)
[06:08] <aeon17x> how do I set kdm as my default login manager?
[06:09] <dr_willis> dpkg-reconfigure kdm (i think)
[06:10] <slow-motion> !easysource
[06:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:14] <KuLover> Anyone here use Karamba? or SuperKaramba?
[06:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waz iz karamba?
[06:16] <geneo93> its like confabulator
[06:17] <KuLover> Anyone use it? lol
[06:18] <geneo93> i dont
[06:22] <erik__> how do I get kubuntu to play videos from web pages! I've installed all video codecs and plugins with easyubuntu and still it won't play
[06:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> prabably need a flash player
[06:23] <leira> i want to change my Debian box to kubuntu, but i have LVMs on my disc, it seems the kubuntu Desktop CD cannot handle LVM?
[06:23] <xDigitalStealthx> has anyone tried to install xgl on kubuntu?
[06:24] <bleaked> alright, sorry if you've seen this question already, but it's driving me insane: i have setup 'quick file browser' kicker applets for directories i frequent.  recently, i installed the ubuntu-desktop package to try gnome out.  a week or so later, i removed the meta package, which removed what seemed to be most of gnome (aptitude :D).  now, none of these buttons work.  nor does opening mounted cds/flash drives via kio-slave dialog boxes.  
[06:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> xDigitalStealthx: i tried
[06:24] <bleaked> xDigitalStealthx: yes, i think many people have.  if i'm not mistaken, it's #ubuntu-xgl
[06:25] <xDigitalStealthx> nocturnal: how did it turn out?
[06:25] <bleaked> and there are some nice fourm posts on ubuntuforums.com
[06:25] <leira> i want to change my Debian box to kubuntu, but i have LVMs on my disc, it seems the kubuntu Desktop CD cannot handle LVM?
[06:25] <xDigitalStealthx> thanx
[06:25] <bleaked> leira: what do you mean by 'cannot handle'?
[06:26] <leira> i saw: "The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu. It provides for the following situations: LVM and/or RAID partitioning;"
[06:26] <leira> so it seems i need alternate CD to install on LVM
[06:26] <jorugar1> Hola buenas tardes
[06:26] <jorugar1> sorry
[06:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> xDigitalStealthx: its bad if you use ati card
[06:27] <xDigitalStealthx> nvidia all the way
[06:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> xDigitalStealthx: it should work well with nvidia
[06:27] <xDigitalStealthx> any freezing or blotchiness to the desktop?
[06:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> xDigitalStealthx: actually it was all nice and cool on ati , but it crashed all the time
[06:28] <jorugar1> anything knows the spanish room of kubuntu?
[06:28] <geneo93> #kubuntu-es
[06:28] <xDigitalStealthx> nocturnal: i see.....thanx for the input
[06:29] <jorugar1> thanks geneo93
[06:29] <geneo93> yw
[06:30] <kuzmaster> hello all
[06:31] <geneo93> getting any kuz latley
[06:38] <cox377> how do people go about streaming media using linux, because it always tries to download it before it plays it
[06:40] <Webu> By the way about streaming media, does anyone know good video stream server?
[06:40] <Webu> So i could stream a camera to internet
[06:42] <bleaked> cox377: generally, one needs to have various browswer plug-ins installed.
[06:42] <bleaked> cox377: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  helps get many things up and running, including streaming support.
[06:44] <fini> jemand deutsch hier, und kann mir sagen ob es einen deutschen Kubuntu-Channel gibt?
[06:44] <lithrian> @fini mach mal /list
[06:45] <lithrian> ja der heit so
[06:47] <andrew_> what's going on fellas
[06:47] <psb154> is there a german kubuntu channel for fini?
[06:47] <fini> yes! i found it! :)
[06:48] <psb154> :-)
[06:56] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a kubuntu channel in canadian?  muahahahhahah
[06:57] <geneo93> #kubuntu-fr
[06:58] <geneo93> most canadians speak english
[06:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> lol , yeah ,
[06:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone here uses x800 card or higher?
[06:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> with xgl?
[06:59] <DarkStone> hi
[06:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> hi
[06:59] <DarkStone> i want to sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[06:59] <DarkStone> but no such command as chattr?
[07:00] <DarkStone> i need to lock this file so that my dns values do not change every ten minutes
[07:00] <mikearthur> can anyone tell me how to remove the tab bar in kopete?
[07:00] <DarkStone> :|
[07:00] <DarkStone> does the command chattr exist?
[07:01] <geneo93> try chat plus tab
[07:01] <DarkStone> problem solved
[07:01] <DarkStone> its ok
[07:01] <DarkStone> i typed the file wrong :|
[07:02] <DarkStone> now to regain power over my wifi card muhahah >:)
[07:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , good
[07:03] <complexity> anyone know how to make aterm fonts alot bigger?
[07:03] <complexity> i have .xdefaults
[07:04] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> you can set the font sizes in kcontrol i think
[07:04] <jorik> anyone else tried opera 9 yet ? is it just me or does it make some pages (slashdot, wikipedia, ...) render looking completely cramped ?
[07:04] <cossidhon> Hello, my tools menu in konqueror is completely empty. Any ideas?
[07:04] <DarkStone> ok
[07:04] <DarkStone> am i disconnected?
[07:04] <complexity> how when i removed kcontrol
[07:04] <jorik> im going back to opera 8 anyways
[07:05] <complexity> i want to set aterm font size ??...
[07:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> complexity: appearance/fonts
[07:05] <DarkStone> am i lagging?
[07:05] <DarkStone> someone ping me
[07:05] <DarkStone> my wifi is messing up
[07:05] <DarkStone> :S
[07:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ping darkstone
[07:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> haha , its not pinging
[07:05] <DarkStone> ./ping darkstone
[07:05] <DarkStone> remove .
[07:06] <DarkStone> bah ill ping myself
[07:06] <DarkStone> :\
[07:06] <DarkStone> ok
[07:06] <complexity> you ping is fine
[07:06] <DarkStone> thanks for checkin
[07:06] <DarkStone> ok
[07:06] <cossidhon> ./ping darkstone
[07:06] <DarkStone> one more problem...
[07:06] <DarkStone> now that i have set my dns
[07:06] <DarkStone> i cannot access my router
[07:06] <DarkStone> :|
[07:07] <DarkStone> because my isp's dns is higher priority than my router's dns
[07:07] <DarkStone> how do i enable usage of both?
[07:08] <cossidhon> My tools-menu in konqueror is empty...
[07:08] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:08] <complexity> wtf i dont have kcontrol
[07:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> complexity: u said u removed it
[07:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> complexity: if u removed it then u dont have it
[07:09] <complexity> yes i dont have kdonctorl
[07:09] <complexity> i dont want it
[07:09] <complexity> i just want to change fonts in aterm
[07:09] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:09] <complexity> make it big
[07:09] <complexity> i cant see it good'
[07:09] <_ryan> I'm having some trouble with the kaffeine-mozilla plug-in.  I've got it installed and it shows up in firefox "about:plugins" but when I try to open a video I get "file could not be opened because the associated helper application does not exist."  Any suggestions?
[07:09] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why why
[07:10] <cox377> bleaked: sorry i meant over shared drives
[07:10] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:10] <complexity> wtf
[07:10] <complexity> ..
[07:13] <Wikipedia-Gast> why?
[07:14] <slow-motion> bye
[07:14] <aeon17x> How do I enable smooth scrolling in konqueror?
[07:14] <tsdgeos> shift arrow up/down
[07:14] <tsdgeos> is that what you mean?
[07:17] <aeon17x> I mean, with the mouse
[07:17] <aeon17x> while using the scroll wheel
[07:17] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:17] <tsdgeos> aeon17x: ah, iirc you need a code patch for that
[07:18] <aeon17x> I see
[07:20] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> wiki, why did ur mama drop u as a child?
[07:23] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why?
[07:23] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why
[07:23] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why
[07:23] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:24] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:24] <Wikipedia-Gast> life is a cookie
[07:24] <BlankB> Please take off-topic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:25] <aeon17x> zee!
[07:25] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[07:26] <jvz> hey guys, has anyone seen mez lately?
[07:26] <pi1l> hello, my system hangs up periodicaly when using nvidia driver.. does anybody know how to fix it?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> maybe 2 days ago
[07:26] <nalioth> jvz: his emails go unreturned, and he's not been seen in a few months
[07:27] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you saw mez (was he identified as mez?)
[07:27] <jvz> mmkay...
[07:27] <gnomefreak> nalioth: he was seen in -ops dancing
[07:27] <gnomefreak> nalioth: i didnt know if he was ided or not
[07:27] <gnomefreak> id'ed
[07:27] <jvz> if he's the only admin of the en-gb translator team, I don't see how anyone else can get approved to translate on launchpad...
[07:27] <nalioth> jvz: i apologize, he was logged in yesterday
[07:27] <Dragoonz> will the kubuntu desktp run under ltsp
[07:27] <jvz> ah
[07:28] <nalioth> jvz: i suggest you use /memoserv to get with him
[07:28] <jvz> /memoserv
[07:28] <nalioth> i am in the same boat as you, jvz
[07:28] <nalioth> jvz: /msg memoserv help
[07:28] <jvz> dur, the bot?
[07:28] <jvz> oh, right
[07:28] <jvz> never use that bot
[07:29] <gnomefreak> jvz: i think its /memoserv list  that will show you a list of messages that you got while not logged on iirc
[07:29] <jvz> hmm, I'm usually logged on...
[07:29] <gnomefreak> jvz: i think to send its /memoserv <nick> message
[07:29] <jvz> and I think memoserv is like, too busy to help me :(
[07:30] <jvz> I propose that Kubuntu moves to OFTC.net like Debian did
[07:31] <jvz> anyone here know much about avc's like Ogg, Matroska, or AVI?
[07:32] <geneo93> jvz mplayer plays them
[07:33] <jvz> a likely story; have you tried out 1.0try8?
[07:33] <jvz> er, 1.0pre8
[07:33] <cox377> does anyone know why when ever you open a media file on a networkj drive kubuntu tries to download it before it plays it, is it possible to stream straight away?
[07:34] <jvz> what kind of network drive?
[07:34] <jvz> like, smb? or nfs?
[07:34] <jvz> because if you have it mounted somewhere (e.g. you mount a shared drive to /media/somedrive), it won't need to download it
[07:35] <jvz> it'd just stream directly via the file system
[07:36] <cox377> jvz: how do u go about mounting the drive?
[07:40] <Webu> Is there some kind of partiotioning software on Kubuntu?
[07:40] <seashell11> qtparted
[07:40] <seashell11> or gparted
[07:40] <Webu> I just need to partition my newly added 200gb disk
[07:40] <seashell11> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[07:41] <seashell11> then sudo qtparted
[07:41] <Webu> Ookey, with it i can make my new disk appear?
[07:41] <seashell11> it should have your disk listed, and it will apear after you partition it and mount it
[07:41] <apokryphos> !partition
[07:42] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[07:42] <jero> question: how do i enable grub if i installed ubuntu and now i have to install win xp?
[07:42] <apokryphos> gah, not that
[07:42] <apokryphos> oh actually, it mentions qtparted, yeah.
[07:42] <cox377> has anyone here used logmein??
[07:43] <Webu> !stream
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about stream
[07:43] <Webu> !video
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about video
[07:43] <Webu> Does anyone know a good video streaming software?
[07:43] <jero> question: how do i enable grub if i installed ubuntu and now i have to install win xp?
[07:44] <Bazzi> jero: with a live cd after installing winxp
[07:44] <jero> ok so is there a command i must enter with the ubuntu livecd?
[07:44] <jero> to jsut install grub
[07:44] <jero> because i did not see the option on the gui
[07:44] <Bazzi> the command is like "sudo grub-install hda1", but I don't know it by heart
[07:44] <cox377> !logmein
[07:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about logmein
[07:44] <jero> thank you
[07:45] <gnomefreak> Bazzi: isnt it /dev/hda1?
[07:45] <Bazzi> as I said, I don't know it by heart so it may as well be /dev/hda1
[07:46] <Webu> Qtparted owns your ass, thanks!
[07:46] <jero> thanks guys
[07:46] <Bazzi> gparted is better maintained though, Webu :P
[07:46] <jvz> okay, I have an idea for an extension to the BitTorrent protocol, let me know what you think
[07:46] <vandal> hey everyone, does anyone know why on kubuntu server i always get "out memory error" from putty or my screen will just freeze up and i will have to reconnect?
[07:46] <jvz> torrents would have the ability to add other protocols as mirrors for uploading (e.g. ftp, http, rsync)
[07:47] <jvz> that way, you could add fast ftp servers and whatnot to torrents to encourage the exclusive usage of torrents
[07:47] <jvz> is that viable?
[07:48] <Bazzi> jvz: it's a somewhat nice idea, but it hasn't quite succeeded yet
[07:48] <jvz> Bazzi: has someone tried it yet?
[07:48] <Bazzi> well the idea of course is floating around for a while
[07:48] <h3sp4wn> I don't think that is a good idea - any decent sized isp will have popular images in its webcaches anyway (so you won't get the file from the actual ftp server anyway)
[07:48] <Bazzi> but I guess nobody has figured out a sane way to implement it
[07:49] <Bazzi> or needed it that much so far
[07:49] <jvz> I guess it also depends on the limitations of http and ftp (e.g. whether or not you can download arbitrary chunks)
[07:50] <Bazzi> most well-configured webservers do allow that
[07:50] <Bazzi> but then again you cannot quite control the userlimit/bw in a sane way
[07:50] <jvz> that's what I was thinking
[07:50] <Bazzi> a torrent could be as bad as a DDoS for a http server
[07:50] <jvz> could treat an ftp server as a super-seed
[07:51] <vandal> anyone? no one else has had any odd ssh timeouts with kubuntu? it only happens on this box
[07:52] <osiris> ssh'ed into kubuntu for 3 days straight.  no timeouts here
[07:52] <vandal> hrmm...
[07:53] <vandal> mine just freezes sometimes or putty will get some garbled packet or out of memory error
[07:53] <elijahblue> hi all..im new here:)
[07:53] <osiris> vandal, havent tried with the putty client
[07:53] <vandal> ahh
[07:54] <vandal> i have other boxes (redhat ones etc..) that never do it
[07:54] <osiris> sshed from mandriva to kubuntu
[07:54] <vandal> wondering if it's just a config problem or something
[07:54] <osiris> might be a putty issue
[07:54] <vandal> possible as well, but never had the issue on any other box, rh, bsd etc..
[07:54] <vandal> just this kubuntu one :(
[07:55] <Webu> Why qtparted says 9.44gb used in my new 200gb driver?
[07:55] <Webu> Just made it ext3 and formatted it
[07:55] <elijahblue> im a newbie here...i wanted to know....is the kubuntu GUI installer nice & safe?
[07:56] <Webu> elijahblue, i think it really is
[07:56] <Webu> elijahblue, just used it
[07:56] <elijahblue> Webu: ok glad to know dat:) i asked coz im afraid of doing anything to my brother's win partition..
[07:57] <Webu> Worked greatly for me
[07:57] <Webu> Though installed to an empty disk
[07:58] <_ryan> anyone have a clue as to why kaffeine keeps locking up for a while and then coming back while I'm streaming a trailer?  I've tried increasing the videobuffer to 2000.
[07:58] <Webu> But i'm almost sure it can use free space from another pertition
[07:58] <mossman> Hello all.  Has anyone had any problems with cedega and Kubuntu?
[07:59] <osiris> elijahblue, went fairly well for me, other than issues with my sata drive
[08:02] <Webu> Hey, after formatting and activating my new 200gb disk, do i need to mount it or something?
[08:05] <[Nirvana] > Webu: most likely
[08:05] <Webu> Any ideas how?
[08:05] <[Nirvana] > do you know what hd# it is?
[08:06] <elijahblue> i  REALLY wanna know....how fast is kubuntu daper?
[08:06] <Webu> Yes
[08:06] <[Nirvana] > is it empty? or is it partition
[08:06] <Webu> A new empty disk
[08:07] <Webu> I partiotioned it with qtparted
[08:07] <Webu> To one big partition
[08:07] <[Nirvana] > elijahblue: Boot: FAAAST, normal: mildly faster
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> elijahblue: Compared to what ? I think it is quite slow
[08:07] <Webu> Then activated
[08:07] <[Nirvana] > Webu: so it's formatted to ext3?
[08:07] <Webu> Yep
[08:07] <Webu> One weird thing, why does qtparted say there's 9.44gb used in that disc?
[08:07] <[Nirvana] > and you know what hd# it is? You can type cat /proc/partitions to find out
[08:07] <Webu> Even i just formatted it
[08:08] <Webu> Yes, hda, hdb etc, then partitions hdb1 for example
[08:08] <Webu> OOO!
[08:08] <Webu> I booted my computer
[08:08] <[Nirvana] > OK,
[08:08] <Webu> Disk appeared automatically
[08:09] <Webu> To system:/media
[08:09] <elijahblue> is ubuntu faster or kubuntu? ;)
[08:09] <Webu> But its not mounted
[08:09] <[Nirvana] > 10GB is used because when you formatted the disk, 5% of the disk is dedicated to root
[08:09] <[Nirvana] > elijahblue: it shouldn't make a difference
[08:10] <Webu> Okey, got it and found it
[08:10] <Webu> Use qtparted, format, activate
[08:10] <Webu> Reboot, open konqueror, select mount
[08:10] <Webu> Hmm
[08:10] <Webu> Didn't work..
[08:10] <[Nirvana] > Webu: so create a directory in which you'd like to mount it, then pop open /etc/fstab as root user and fill in a new line
[08:10] <Webu> mount: /dev/hdb1 not found in file /etc/fstab
[08:11] <Webu> Yeps
[08:11] <Webu> By the way
[08:11] <Webu> Why does old disk appear 196gb, and new 200gb
[08:11] <Webu> Even they are both 200gb and same model
[08:11] <Webu> Seagates
[08:12] <geneo93> because of format
[08:12] <Webu> Is it because of swap in first disc?
[08:13] <Webu> [Nirvana] , should you always activate the only one partition in a new disk?
[08:17] <Webu> Is it possible to connect Kubuntu to a Win XP computer?
[08:17] <Webu> And make a home network between them
[08:18] <[Nirvana] > Webu: you can activate as many partitions as you want, and for a home network between XP and Kubuntu, you want Samba
[08:18] <Webu> Samba hmm
[08:18] <Webu> Okey i get it
[08:18] <Webu> Just making a linux server
[08:18] <Webu> I'm full of windows
[08:18] <[Nirvana] > howto: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[08:18] <Webu> Need to try something better
[08:18] <Webu> Great
[08:18] <Webu> I'm well experienced in windows, but linux is totally different feeling
[08:19] <Webu> So first time, don't know how to use this well ;-D
[08:19] <Webu> [Nirvana] , does samba do the job if i want to get XP computer to internet through my Kubuntu server?
[08:20] <[Nirvana] > Webu: no
[08:20] <Webu> Any ideas what would do it?
[08:20] <[Nirvana] > Webu: to do that, your going to need two eth ports on the Kubuntu box and a crossover cable
[08:21] <Webu> I've got many network cards and they appear in network tools
[08:21] <[Nirvana] > and then a packet/NAT routing program or something, maybe try GuideDog?
[08:21] <[Nirvana] > and as for a crossover cable?
[08:21] <Webu> And of course got cables to connect pc's
[08:22] <Webu> I've used same system a long time with XP machines
[08:22] <[Nirvana] > Webu: then find a packet/NAT routing program or something, maybe try GuideDog?
[08:22] <Webu> Now i'm switching server to Linux and need to get same system to work
[08:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> does anyone know how to turn off the amazon link from the album covers in amarok?
[08:22] <Webu> Okey, i will try it soon
[08:24] <[Nirvana] > I don't know how to do it in Linux (on Windows, it's called ICS I think) but I do know that you should search apt: sudo apt-cache search <keyword> and then to further refine searches, add |grep <refinedkeyword>, so in all it would be sudo apt-cache search forward |grep packet  where forward=keyword and packet=refined keyword
[08:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : wth did u just call my mama?
[08:26] <elijahblue> one question: does firefox open faster in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> elijahblue: i think it depends on ur system performance
[08:26] <elijahblue> still in general??
[08:27] <Webu> Ookey
[08:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> it only takes a second to open on my kubuntu machine
[08:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> but i got a fast pc
[08:27] <[Nirvana] > n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no...I don't think I did
[08:27] <Webu> [Nirvana] , so you can create a directory to mount my another driver anywhere in system?
[08:28] <[Nirvana] > yes
[08:28] <Webu> Linux is little differet
[08:28] <[Nirvana] > in windows, you have My Computer, which houses all the drives, C, D ,E etc
[08:28] <Webu> Yes
[08:28] <[Nirvana] > in Linux, you have / and every drive/folder/directory gets mounted under it
[08:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : yeah i know . i had no clue what u were talking about ... so   ...
[08:29] <Webu> Oh yeah
[08:29] <elijahblue> i see
[08:29] <[Nirvana] > so if I mount my windows drive in linux, I can mount it to wherever I chose, so I mounted to /media/windows, in Windows, when you mount a drive, it gets assigned a letter
[08:29] <[Nirvana] > n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I was responding to: [14:25]  <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : wth did u just call my mama?
[08:29] <Webu> Damn, konqueror won't allow me to create directory /files
[08:30] <[Nirvana] > also in linux, you may not be able to create a directory just anywhere
[08:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : i know , dont worry about it , its a joke
[08:30] <Webu> Should i put the mount directory to some kind of recommended directory?
[08:30] <[Nirvana] > because all the average user owns is anything under their /home/username/ directory
[08:31] <[Nirvana] > but, you can create a directory in the command line (or by using the command kdesu konqueror and using konqy in root mode)
[08:31] <[Nirvana] > in the CLI: mkdir /path/to/dir/you/wanna/make
[08:31] <Webu> Ooh okey, so then i could put files directory to /
[08:32] <Webu> Argh, i could create files-directory*
[08:32] <[Nirvana] > in the konqueror as root user methood: press alt F2 and type --> kdesu konqueror
[08:32] <[Nirvana] > your probably better off using the konqueror methood until you get used to CLI
[08:33] <Webu> Yes.
[08:33] <Webu> I don't feel comfy in CLI after using windows for ages
[08:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a way to find out who made or maintains a driver???
[08:33] <Webu> I just cant remember all the commands and all feels so oldish
[08:33] <BanskuZ> CLI?
[08:33] <Webu> Command Line Interface i think
[08:33] <lowtech> usually mount points are created in /mnt/
[08:34] <[Nirvana] > n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: yes, in adept look for the maintainer field of the pkg
[08:34] <Webu> So is it recommended to use /mnt/ or /media or something?
[08:34] <Webu> My /mnt/ directory is emptty
[08:34] <Webu> Empty
[08:34] <BanskuZ> Adept 8(
[08:34] <[Nirvana] > it doesn't really matter
[08:34] <Webu> Just thought where my first hard disk is mounted
[08:34] <lowtech> oh, yeah. probably /media/ in kubuntu
[08:34] <Webu> Where Linux is
[08:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : ok , ty
[08:35] <[Nirvana] > Webu: I think in Kubuntu /media is used
[08:35] <eXCeSS> yeah it is
[08:35] <Webu> Ok
[08:35] <lowtech> using /media/ is just a way to standardize
[08:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> [Nirvana] : but how can i find out which pkg my soundcard is using?
[08:35] <Webu> Theres cdrom and cdrom0 in my media
[08:35] <eXCeSS>  . . .   /media/sdb1 is where my hd1 is
[08:35] <Webu> cdrom is a shortcut to somewhere
[08:35] <Webu> I cant see my hard drives here
[08:36] <Webu> Or, my first hard drive is the Linux driver where the / is located
[08:36] <lowtech> if they are listed, /etc/fstab will show where they are mounted
[08:36] <Webu> So maybe that's why it's not in /media/ because its the /
[08:37] <Webu> I think i'll mount my another driver to /media/
[08:37] <[Nirvana] > yeah, the drive mounted as / does not show up in /media
[08:37] <Webu> [Nirvana] , first time i knew something right just by myself :-)
[08:37] <darkrad> when i type "dmesg", from which file the text is shown?
[08:38] <Webu> Where's my FLOPPY driver :-O?
[08:38] <[Nirvana] > but it does show in in media:/ in konqueror
[08:38] <darkrad> !dmesg
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about dmesg
[08:38] <darkrad> when i type "dmesg", from which file the text is shown?
[08:38] <darkrad> is taken i mean
[08:38] <v3ctor> media:/ in konqueror would be for removable media
[08:39] <[Nirvana] > darkrad: I think all the logfiles in /var/log
[08:39] <[Nirvana] > v3ctor: Or as a "My Computer", but yeah, the original intention was removable stuff
[08:40] <v3ctor> darkrad: /var/log/dmesg
[08:41] <Webu> So i created a directory and now i edit mounts
[08:42] <Webu> [Nirvana] , how to mount my floppy?
[08:42] <oputres> Hi! How do I check out if I have ndiswrapper installed and if not, how do I install it?
[08:42] <Webu> It doesn't seem to be here
[08:43] <DarkStone> woot
[08:43] <DarkStone> everything is up and runnig
[08:43] <DarkStone> running*
[08:43] <DarkStone> :)
[08:43] <DarkStone> one last thing
[08:43] <DarkStone> how do install java plugin for firefox
[08:43] <DarkStone> :S
[08:44] <v3ctor> !java
[08:44] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:44] <DarkStone> ty
[08:44] <Webu> What are recommended mounting options for a regular 200gb ide disk?
[08:44] <elijahblue> why does firefox so slower than opera or konqueror?
[08:45] <[Nirvana] > firefox = gtk
[08:45] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: you could use easyubuntu to install it
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> firefox is pretty fast if you just the mozilla.org one
[08:45] <[Nirvana] > yeah
[08:45] <[Nirvana] > because ours had Ubuntu patches and stuff which degrade performance
[08:46] <DarkStone> easyubuntu?
[08:46] <[Nirvana] > !easyubuntu
[08:46] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:46] <[Nirvana] > easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[08:46] <[Nirvana] > or the MANual way: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:46] <mahmoud> hi
[08:46] <[Nirvana] > hello
[08:46] <Webu> Hey people what names do i use mounting floppy disk?
[08:47] <mahmoud> can anyone help me setting up wpa on kubuntu 6.06?
[08:47] <[Nirvana] > floppy?
[08:47] <Webu> Is it like fd0?
[08:47] <[Nirvana] > that's the device name, what do you need this name for?
[08:47] <Webu> To mount it, /dev/fd0
[08:47] <Webu> It's not mounted yet
[08:48] <[Nirvana] > ok
[08:48] <[Nirvana] > so first
[08:48] <Webu> What type is floppy?
[08:48] <Webu> defaults?
[08:48] <[Nirvana] > hmm, lemme check
[08:48] <Webu> And options
[08:48] <Webu> I'm not sure what to put
[08:49] <elijahblue> should i compile firefox from source? :(
[08:49] <mahmoud> no one?
[08:49] <oputres> Please, how do I check if I got ndiswrapper installet and if not, how do I install it? I'm such a newbie at Kubuntu/linux
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> elijahblue: Just get the binaries from mozilla.org and put it in /opt/firefox
[08:49] <eXCeSS> oputres: try to apt get it and see if it says its already installed
[08:50] <elijahblue> i see
[08:50] <mahmoud> no one ever tried to set up wpa?
[08:50] <[Nirvana] > !ndiswrapper
[08:50] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[08:50] <[Nirvana] > mahmoud: check the wiki
[08:50] <[Nirvana] > !wpa
[08:50] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[08:51] <mahmoud> but this is for ubuntu
[08:51] <Webu> !floppy
[08:51] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:51] <Webu> AAA!
[08:51] <[Nirvana] > lol
[08:51] <oputres> What does "!ndiswrapper" do? Do I just type it in the Terminal?
[08:51] <eXCeSS> guys as a quick question, is there anything to look for in lappys to be sure theyre linux friendly or does linux support everything becuase its awesome like that
[08:51] <Webu> That's the key word
[08:51] <[Nirvana] > oputres: follow the link
[08:51] <word> the key?
[08:51] <word> :P
[08:52] <[Nirvana] > he means keyword word... (redundant...)
[08:52] <word> I know :P
[08:52] <mahmoud> @nirvana, These instructions are targeted toward Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy). For Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper) see [WWW]  http://wiki.debian.org/WPA, section debian etch (testing/unstable).
[08:52] <mahmoud> as far as I understand it is not for kubuntu
[08:52] <_ryan> anyone have tips for getting kaffeine to stream quicktime better?  The application locks up ever 20 or 30 seconds.
[08:52] <[Nirvana] > mahmoud: try anyway? Ubuntu = Kubuntu in the heart anyways
[08:52] <Webu> !harddisk
[08:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about harddisk
[08:52] <eXCeSS> _ryan: try a different program
[08:52] <Webu> !disk
[08:53] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[08:53] <Webu> !mount
[08:53] <[Nirvana] > oputres: read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[08:53] <Webu> !mount
[08:53] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[08:53] <_ryan> eXCeSS: I'll give it a shot
[08:53] <DarkStone> uhh
[08:53] <mahmoud> its referring me to a debian wiki....?!
[08:53] <DarkStone> sohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ ./configure
[08:53] <DarkStone> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:53] <DarkStone> :|
[08:53] <Webu> [Nirvana] , if i stick an usb stick to my computer, does kubuntu automatically detect and mount it?
[08:54] <eXCeSS> mahmoud: kubuntu is built on debian
[08:54] <Webu> Or do i have always mount them first or?
[08:54] <eXCeSS> Webu: yes
[08:54] <Webu> How about usb hard disk?
[08:54] <mahmoud> I see, thank you
[08:54] <DarkStone> welp!
[08:54] <eXCeSS> Webu: mine does
[08:54] <DarkStone> sohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ ./configure
[08:54] <DarkStone> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:54] <eXCeSS> Webu: if not then restart it should
[08:54] <Webu> Ok
[08:54] <martynda> hi, i have100% CPU usage with amarok 1.4 and xine, can anyone help please?
[08:54] <eXCeSS> Webu: or you can edit the fstab to audomatically mount it
[08:54] <eXCeSS> !fstab
[08:54] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[08:54] <Webu> Thanks
[08:54] <[Nirvana] > martynda: what does top say is eating the memory?
[08:54] <DarkStone> someone help me
[08:55] <eXCeSS> Webu: np
[08:55] <DarkStone> sohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ ./configure
[08:55] <DarkStone> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:55] <[Nirvana] > martynda: and are you up-to-date
[08:55] <eXCeSS> DarkStone: what are you trying to do
[08:55] <Webu> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[08:55] <eXCeSS> DarkStone: besudes ./configure
[08:55] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: no ./configure
[08:55] <[Nirvana] > instructions are on the download page
[08:55] <martynda> [Nirvana] : yes, i'm up to date, and amarokapp is eating up cycles
[08:55] <oputres> The guide tells me to go to System > Administration > Networking but I don't have a Administration folder. Is there an opposit in Kubuntu? The guide is for Gnome based Ubuntu.
[08:55] <DarkStone> excess
[08:56] <martynda> [Nirvana] : it's not consisten though, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
[08:56] <eXCeSS> DarkStone: yes
[08:56] <DarkStone> im trying to compile a source
[08:56] <eXCeSS> DarkStone: check the instructions as nirvana said
[08:56] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: For Easyubuntu?
[08:56] <DarkStone> yes
[08:56] <[Nirvana] > which v. did you download?
[08:57] <DarkStone> 3.0
[08:57] <Webu> !usb
[08:57] <[Nirvana] > 3.01 (already compiled) nighly snapshot, or bleeding edge?
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[08:57] <Webu> !usb disk
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb disk
[08:57] <DarkStone> 3.0 only
[08:57] <Webu> Okey, now i need software to my brand new Kubuntu server
[08:57] <[Nirvana] > !wherearethecommandsfound
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about wherearethecommandsfound
[08:57] <DarkStone> i got it from the link in the irc channel
[08:57] <Webu> Apache..
[08:57] <Webu> Is ftpd best ftp server?
[08:58] <[Nirvana] > maybe, I usually see proftpd used
[08:58] <martynda> vstf i used a bit too i think
[08:58] <[Nirvana] > for a guide on settings up stuff, poke around doc.gwos.org and ubuntuguide.org
[08:58] <martynda> vsftp*
[08:59] <kerian> I've used proftpd and pure-ftpd... both are fine.... been meaning to try vsftp the next time I setup ftp (which may be awhile)
[08:59] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: if you wanna compile easyubuntu
[08:59] <DarkStone> ?
[08:59] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: then download the nightly snapshot instead of the compiled package
[08:59] <DarkStone> from where?
[08:59] <[Nirvana] > download pg
[08:59] <DarkStone> pg?
[09:00] <[Nirvana] > http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html --> bottom of this page
[09:00] <Webu> Ookey, only problem is there any video stream servers avaible in linux
[09:00] <[Nirvana] > pg = posgresql... :( I meant page
[09:00] <DarkStone> ok
[09:00] <Webu> Need to stream webcam video to internet
[09:01] <[Nirvana] > type in command:  sudo apt-cache search video |grep stream
[09:01] <[Nirvana] > and read the pkg descriptions
[09:01] <[Nirvana] > for further pakage descriptions
[09:01] <Webu> Lets try
[09:01] <v3ctor> vls
[09:01] <Webu> Dang
[09:01] <DarkStone> nirvana
[09:01] <DarkStone> sohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ cd EasyUbuntu_2006-XX-XX
[09:01] <DarkStone> bash: cd: EasyUbuntu_2006-XX-XX: No such file or directory
[09:01] <DarkStone> sohaib@sohaib-laptop:~/easyubuntu$ sudo python easyubuntu.in
[09:01] <DarkStone> python: can't open file 'easyubuntu.in': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[09:01] <DarkStone> error! :(
[09:01] <Webu> I'm at konqueror and cant found my new disk here
[09:02] <[Nirvana] > for further package descriptions, search here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/   ... but apt-cache search should be alright
[09:02] <Webu> It shows if i use "Storage media"
[09:02] <DarkStone> :S
[09:02] <Webu> But in konqueror i cant see it straight
[09:02] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: replace X's with the version number, or for a quicker way, replace X's with *
[09:02] <Webu> If i use "Storage media" i cant get root rights
[09:02] <[Nirvana] > so try --> cd EasyUbuntu_2006-*-*
[09:03] <v3ctor> apt:/ in konq is pretty good for searching for packages also
[09:03] <[Nirvana] > Webu: Did you set the right permissions in /etc/fstab?
[09:03] <Webu> "only root can mount"
[09:03] <DarkStone>   File "easyubuntu.in", line 33, in ?
[09:03] <DarkStone>     replace(confdir)
[09:03] <DarkStone>   File "/home/sohaib/easyubuntu/EasyUbuntu_2006-06-22/EasyUbuntu/detect.py", line 155, in replace
[09:03] <DarkStone>     os.popen("chown -R "+os.getlogin()+":"+os.getlogin()+" "+confdir)
[09:03] <DarkStone> OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[09:03] <Webu> Yes, but i cant mount this
[09:03] <martynda> is there a list of commands such ast smb:/ apt:/ etc in konq?
[09:03] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! guys..
[09:03] <Webu> I'm not root
[09:03] <Ashex> How do I extract a RAR file that is password protected?
[09:03] <Webu> If i use konqueror with roots, cant find the disk
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> Ashex, unrar x file.rar and type in the password when it askes.
[09:04] <[Nirvana] > Ashex: do you have unrar-nonfree installed?
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> BRB
[09:04] <Webu> I found solution
[09:05] <[Nirvana] > Ashex: Of course I mean unrar, or unrar-free :P I don't make mistakes ....
[09:05] <eXCeSS> !osd
[09:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about osd
[09:05] <Ashex> Heh
[09:05] <Ashex> okay, I was using Ark I think
[09:05] <Webu> Omg omg it works
[09:06] <chiaretta> hey anyone have the speedtouch package?? I can't found it on my repository
[09:06] <Webu> [Nirvana] , is it normal i cannot write to the new disk i mounted without root permission?
[09:06] <v3ctor> martynda: don't k now of any list..but i love audiocd:/
[09:06] <Webu> Or do i need to configure something?
[09:07] <[Nirvana] > Webu: to be able to write to it, you must do some magic in /etc/fstab to give yourself permissions
[09:07] <martynda> would be REALLY nice to get a list, seems i keep discovering new ones all the time
[09:07] <v3ctor> same here
[09:08] <martynda> i use smb:/ and ftp:/ all the time
[09:08] <Webu> [Nirvana] , so its normal you need roots to write anywhere expect your home
[09:08] <[Nirvana] > yes
[09:08] <eXCeSS> Webu: run kate with sudo and edit it
[09:08] <v3ctor> i used sftp:/ and audiocd:/ all the time
[09:08] <Webu> Ok
[09:08] <[Nirvana] > root owns your computer, but you also own your house
[09:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a app that has an option to play ogg/mp3/wav/flac backwards?
[09:08] <[Nirvana] > computer was supposed to be country ^^
[09:08] <[Nirvana] > so think of root as the gov't :P
[09:09] <Webu> Yeps.
[09:10] <Webu> Just thought if i put my apache public_html to my hdb, i always need roots to edit files or anything
[09:10] <Webu> That sounds pretty dumb
[09:10] <eXCeSS> no you can edit the folder to let everyone edit it
[09:10] <eXCeSS> like all my hard drives i have so i can make folders etc
[09:11] <eXCeSS> you set the permissions once and youre good
[09:11] <[Nirvana] > Webu: It is secure though
[09:11] <Webu> Ok, is it smart to put public_html to hdb and use ftp to access there as well
[09:11] <Webu> Is it possible to make ssh access there as well?
[09:11] <Webu> Or shh is only for home directorys?
[09:13] <[Nirvana] > for server stuff, read: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu and http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ServerGuide
[09:13] <Webu> Okey, how to get root rights in console
[09:13] <Webu> Something like sudo -?
[09:13] <[Nirvana] > sudo su
[09:13] <Webu> Ok thanks
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i
[09:13] <xDigitalStealthx> by any chance, does anyone know how to change the screen resolution in compiz?
[09:14] <DarkStone> how do i check kernel version?
[09:14] <[Nirvana] > and exit to go back to normal user
[09:14] <[Nirvana] > uname -a
[09:15] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: uname -a and it should show Linux computer-name 2.6.15-25-686 where the 2.6.15 is the kernel name
[09:15] <DarkStone> ok
[09:15] <[Nirvana] > or for only the kernel name
[09:15] <[Nirvana] > uname -r
[09:15] <DarkStone> and if i wanted to update
[09:15] <DarkStone> how would i do that
[09:15] <mikearthur> why would you want to?
[09:16] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: sudo apt-get update && sudp apt-get upgrade  ??
[09:16] <DarkStone> um
[09:16] <DarkStone> i think so
[09:16] <[Nirvana] > sudp = sudo ^^
[09:16] <mikearthur> you think what?
[09:16] <DarkStone> is there not a new kernel coming soon?
[09:16] <[Nirvana] > well
[09:16] <DarkStone> one with wifi improvement or something?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> [Nirvana] : dist-upgrade for new kernel for your versionm
[09:16] <gnomefreak> -m
[09:16] <mikearthur> what card do you have
[09:16] <gnomefreak> DarkStone: not for dapper
[09:16] <DarkStone> ok
[09:17] <[Nirvana] > *-23 was updated to *-25 because of a security report
[09:17] <gnomefreak> DarkStone: 2.6.15-25 was just released for dapper
[09:17] <DarkStone> ok
[09:17] <DarkStone> i have 2.6.15-23
[09:17] <DarkStone> :|
[09:17] <[Nirvana] > sudo you gotta update!
[09:17] <[Nirvana] > make sure dapper-security is activated!
[09:17] <DarkStone> erm
[09:17] <DarkStone> ok
[09:18] <DarkStone> is it critical?
[09:18] <sorush20> hi guys I have lost the copy to and move to buttons all of a sudden what can I do?
[09:18] <DarkStone> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   ?
[09:18] <[Nirvana] > lemme show you the report (it prolly isn't.. I didn't update yet and I'm still breathing)
[09:18] <DarkStone> lol
[09:18] <DarkStone> is it sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to update?
[09:18] <[Nirvana] > report: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2006-June/000342.html
[09:19] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: yes
[09:19] <DarkStone> O.O
[09:19] <DarkStone> ok
[09:19] <DarkStone> il update then
[09:19] <DarkStone> ^_^
[09:19] <[Nirvana] > DarkStone: and if you get an error that packages are kept back, you have to -->  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:19] <DarkStone> ok
[09:20] <DarkStone> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:20] <DarkStone> with both commands
[09:21] <DarkStone> apt-get update and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:21] <[Nirvana] > try sudo apt-get update again ?
[09:21] <DarkStone> same
[09:22] <[Nirvana] > you haven't modified your sources.list have you?
[09:22] <Tommy2k4> grr kopete wont sign into msn (server unavailable) and gaim doesnt open when i click the icon o_o
[09:22] <eXCeSS> tom
[09:22] <eXCeSS> reboot
[09:22] <DarkStone> nirvana
[09:22] <DarkStone> no
[09:22] <Tommy2k4> kk
[09:22] <DarkStone> i havent
[09:22] <DarkStone> :|
[09:22] <[Nirvana] > Tommy2k4: in a konsole  --> sudo killall gaim - then --> gaim
[09:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !xine
[09:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine
[09:23] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to use mc
[09:23] <SurfnKid> have 2 linux boxes
[09:23] <DarkStone> my sources list is empty
[09:23] <word> hm...what's a command to see if /dev/sda exists?
[09:23] <[Nirvana] > Tommy2k4: Or get amsn.. it has voice/cam support and gaim/kopete don't
[09:23] <eXCeSS> !mount
[09:23] <SurfnKid> need to know how to connect to the other box to pull up the root dir
[09:23] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:23] <DarkStone> is it in /etc/sources.list?
[09:23] <eXCeSS> fdisk -ls
[09:23] <DarkStone> or am i looking in the wrong place?
[09:23] <macd>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <eXCeSS> word: fdisk -ls
[09:24] <mikearthur> [Nirvana] : kopete has both those features
[09:24] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : does the dapper amsn work for you?
[09:24] <DarkStone> yeh my sources list has some sources in it
[09:24] <[Nirvana] > mikearthur: it does now?
[09:24] <DarkStone> !paste
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:24] <[Nirvana] > iNiku: yes
[09:24] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : it segfaults here
[09:24] <word> eXCeSS: No like a way that if it doesn't exist the command will fail
[09:24] <[Nirvana] > remove --purge and reinstall? happened to me once
[09:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> which engine should be used with amarok?
[09:25] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : yeah, just trying that now
[09:25] <DarkStone> [Nirvana]  this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16208
[09:25] <iNiku> would be weird, though...
[09:25] <mikearthur> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: shouldn't matter hugely, I prefer xine
[09:25] <[Nirvana] > or install cvs amsn, when you download, do ./configure, then make, then make deb and install the deb it makes
[09:25] <mikearthur> Tommy2k4: The MSN network is down
[09:25] <Tommy2k4> ty
[09:25] <[Nirvana] > n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: xine or gstreamer
[09:25] <oputres> Aparently I need ndiswrapper-utils. How do I get this? Should I write apt-get ndiswrapper-utils in the Terminal? Does apt-get even work in Kubuntu? It doesn't seems like that.
[09:25] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : is the cvs version reasonably stable?
[09:26] <mikearthur> why not use Kopete, it supports everything, and doesn't look SO ugly!
[09:26] <[Nirvana] > oputres: apt-get does work
[09:26] <iNiku> mikearthur: kopete is soo uncomfortable
[09:26] <[Nirvana] > oputres: sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-utils
[09:26] <[Nirvana] > oputres: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[09:26] <mikearthur> iNiku: "uncomfortable" how?
[09:26] <iNiku> mikearthur: it doesn't have any usable message notification mechanisms, for one thing
[09:26] <iNiku> I tried it for a couple of days and it drove me crazy
[09:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> mikearthur: what does the engine do ?
[09:26] <mikearthur> how do you mean?
[09:27] <mikearthur> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: plays the music
[09:27] <[Nirvana] > amsn + tcl/tk 8.5 w/AA = heaven
[09:27] <iNiku> mikearthur: or actually, I'm not sure now if that was what I disliked about it the most... but there was something I didn't like at all
[09:27] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : AA?
[09:27] <Tommy2k4> kopete crashes when i accept someones webcam
[09:27] <mikearthur> its pretty customisable
[09:27] <Tommy2k4> it also crashes when amarok crashes
[09:27] <mikearthur> Tommy2k4: works for me
[09:27] <[Nirvana] > Antialiasing so it's not ugly
[09:28] <iNiku> ahh
[09:28] <DarkStone> [Nirvana]  this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16208
[09:28] <mikearthur> font rendering is still horrendous, and the theming
[09:28] <Tommy2k4> i use kopete cos gaim is ugly
[09:28] <DarkStone> is there anything missing?
[09:28] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : nope, amsn still crashes after reinstalling
[09:28] <[Nirvana] > now if only sf.net's cvs was up so I can get AA working again
[09:28] <Tommy2k4> and gaim kept flashing the window when there was no new msgs
[09:28] <mikearthur> different strokes for different folks :)
[09:28] <iNiku> gaim 2 is pretty nice
[09:28] <mikearthur> its still GTK
[09:28] <iNiku> I could not use 1.x though
[09:28] <[Nirvana] > iNiku:  install nightly snapshot amsn, when you download, do ./configure, then make, then make deb and install the deb it makes
[09:28] <iNiku> hated it
[09:28] <oputres> Aah, the sudo part. Still I get an error saying Incorrect operation ndiswrapper (and ndiswrapper-utils). I can't find the ndiswrapper in Add/remove program either :(
[09:29] <Tommy2k4> ooo almost a goal to argentina
[09:29] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : yeah, if I get around to it... gaim2 is serving me reasonably well atm
[09:29] <[Nirvana] > oputres:I bet ndis is in universe and you don't have it enabled
[09:29] <iNiku> [Nirvana] : I used to run amsn before and I liked it, though
[09:30] <iNiku> amsn is also the only IM thingy on linux that even somewhat implements the new MSN file transfer protocol
[09:30] <iNiku> (meaning reasonable transfer rates)
[09:30] <[Nirvana] > oputres: do you have universe enabled?
[09:30] <iNiku> gaim and kopete only support the old protocol that goes via MSN servers and is dead slow
[09:31] <oputres> What do you meen by that? How do I enable universe? Sorry, I'm such a newbie at this
[09:31] <Webu> Dang
[09:31] <Webu> I dont even know wheres my apache2 public_html
[09:32] <Webu> Apache conf is so different
[09:32] <[Nirvana] > oputres: --> cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it at kubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:32] <[Nirvana] > oputres: cat /etc/apt/sources.list is a command you type at the konsole btw
[09:33] <[Nirvana] > oh shit... 3:32... brb in 2 I gotta eat breakfast
[09:33] <[Nirvana] > that is... shoot ^^
[09:34] <iNiku> is that 3:30 AM or PM?
[09:34] <iNiku> as in... early or late breakfast?
[09:34] <[Nirvana] > late
[09:34] <[Nirvana] > see.. Kubuntu makes me starve
[09:34] <[Nirvana] > I'm switching to Windows!
[09:34] <iNiku> yeah. you should sue canonical
[09:34] <[Nirvana] > oh wait.. Windows sucks!
[09:35] <[Nirvana] > time for a Mac!
[09:35] <iNiku> you can run ubuntu on a mac...
[09:35] <Ashex> !tell me about pastebin
[09:36] <[Nirvana] > time for a SPARC
[09:36] <[Nirvana] > Ashex: kubuntu.pastebin.com is so people don't paste in the channel
[09:37] <[Nirvana] > popcorns done..
[09:37] <Ashex> [Nirvana] : I know
[09:37] <iNiku> popcorn for breakfast? ugh.
[09:37] <Ashex> I was checking what ubotu said
[09:37] <iNiku> in fact... popcorn? ugh.
[09:38] <[Nirvana] > popcorn till the toast is done
[09:39] <Webu> Omg wheres my apache public html
[09:39] <Webu> No idea where is it
[09:40] <[Nirvana] > ..--> /var/www?
[09:40] <Webu> Hmm looks like it
[09:40] <Webu> Could see it from apache2.conf
[09:40] <Webu> Couldn't
[09:42] <oputres> Well, saving in pastebin.com seems to be down for the moment. Anyway, there were only a lot of commented lines (#)
[09:42] <iNiku> probably somewhere in /etc/apache/conf.d/*?
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> Webu: Have you enabled userdir
[09:43] <iNiku> haven't actually looked at apache on ubuntu but that seems to be how most distros do it now
[09:43] <[Nirvana] > oputres..
[09:43] <[Nirvana] > !paste
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:43] <Webu> What's userdi
[09:43] <[Nirvana] > go there vv
[09:43] <iNiku> Webu: I mean, you should be able to find it in one of the files under /etc/apache/conf.d
[09:43] <iNiku> or /etc/httpd/conf.d
[09:43] <Webu> I check it
[09:43] <Webu> There's just "charset"-file in conf.d
[09:45] <oputres> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16210 Cool function btw...
[09:45] <Webu> Time to go bed now, good night to all!
[09:45] <Webu> --->
[09:46] <|lostbyte|> Webu, Goodnight :)
[09:47] <andrisp> hello all.. is it possible kde taskbar not to show, for example, '#kubuntu - Konversation', but just 'Konversation' ?
[09:47] <[Nirvana] > oputres: Where are you from?
[09:47] <oputres> Sweden
[09:47] <[Nirvana] > I think it's down
[09:47] <[Nirvana] > i tried pinging
[09:48] <oputres> Aah, the server from were apt-get gets the necessery files?
[09:48] <[Nirvana] > what's a country code for a country neer sweden?
[09:48] <[Nirvana] > italy!
[09:48] <[Nirvana] > or no, that's switzerland
[09:48] <oputres> Finland, Norway or Denmark
[09:48] <[Nirvana] > country code?
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> 276 is germany
[09:49] <[Nirvana] > 2 letter country code
[09:49] <oputres> Try Germany then, it's just south of us
[09:49] <[Nirvana] > like ca =  canada, se = sweded
[09:49] <[Nirvana] > sweden^
[09:49] <oputres> Then it's probably Fi, no and dk
[09:49] <[Nirvana] > germany = de?
[09:49] <[Nirvana] > or yeah, it is
[09:49] <[Nirvana] > !source-o-matic
[09:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:50] <[Nirvana] > go there and make a sources.list
[09:50] <oputres> By flight or train? :) How do i get there?
[09:50] <[Nirvana] > http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:51] <[Nirvana] > I meant the URL from !source-o-matic
[09:51] <[Nirvana] > and checkmark everything and anything you think you might need
[09:52] <oputres> Cool, the source list is a list of every availible programs for (k)ubuntu?
[09:52] <[Nirvana] > then when the sources.list generates, press alt + F2 and type in --> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list <-- and remove everything in that file, and paste in the new one
[09:52] <[Nirvana] > yes sources.list tells apt-get what pkgs it can download
[09:53] <[Nirvana] > make sure you use de for a country code, I know Germany has some good Ubuntu servers, and it seems swedens are down
[09:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone know how to fix the fetch lyrics script not loading in the 1.4 amarok?
[09:57] <oputres> If I wait for the swedish servers to come online again, will I then be able to just write apt-get "wanted packages" in the terminal and smile when it's downloaded? I need some evening food now.
[09:58] <Ashex> we need a pastebin bot
[09:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> we need better linux apps
[10:01] <DarkStone> erm
[10:01] <DarkStone> how do i install 7zip
[10:01] <DarkStone> is there a 7zip?
[10:01] <DarkStone> for kubunut
[10:01] <DarkStone> kubuntu
[10:02] <Ashex> use bzip
[10:02] <Ashex> or Ark
[10:02] <DarkStone> ark doesnt work
[10:02] <oputres> When typing sudo -s in the Terminal, am I then getting a more permanent admin mode in contrary to the single sudo line (like sudo apt-get whatever)?
[10:02] <Ashex> what are you trying to extract?
[10:02] <DarkStone> it is a 7zip file with a rom file in it
[10:04] <DrBair> is universe down?
[10:06] <Chris_Tucker> DrBair, which ones? us? ca? eu?...
[10:06] <DrBair> us
[10:06] <Chris_Tucker> DrBair, checking
[10:06] <Ashex> I think it is, I'm having trouble installing crap
[10:06] <DarkStone>  p7zip-full depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:
[10:06] <DarkStone>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[10:07] <DarkStone>  p7zip-full depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0); however:
[10:07] <DarkStone>   Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5.
[10:07] <DarkStone>  p7zip-full depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0); however:
[10:07] <DarkStone>   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.3-1ubuntu5.
[10:07] <DarkStone> dpkg: error processing p7zip-full (--install):
[10:07] <DarkStone> how do i update?
[10:07] <Ashex> Darkstone
[10:07] <Ashex> use Pastebin
[10:07] <Chris_Tucker> DrBair, working here
[10:07] <DarkStone> sorry
[10:07] <DarkStone> :(
[10:07] <DarkStone> !pastebin
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:07] <NoUse> DarkStone have you added any 3rd party repos to sources.list?
[10:07] <DarkStone> erm
[10:07] <DarkStone> not that i know of
[10:08] <NoUse> DarkStone have you used automatix?
[10:08] <jvz> how do you mount an iso without using root?  /dev/loopN are all chown'd as root:disk, my mount point is done similarly, and I'm part of the disk group, yet mount still requires root
[10:08] <DarkStone> no
[10:08] <DarkStone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16211
[10:08] <Chris_Tucker> NoUse, doubt that would cause it
[10:08] <DarkStone> thats my problem
[10:08] <Ashex> Yeah, I'm getting this error from apt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16212
[10:08] <Ashex> Can't install a package due to a 403 error
[10:08] <DarkStone> i get the same error ashex
[10:08] <DarkStone> :|
[10:08] <DarkStone> forbidden
[10:08] <DrBair> Ashex: same here
[10:09] <Chris_Tucker> DarkStone, try apt-get install -f ... make sure it doesnt try to remove anything vital though
[10:09] <NoUse> !info 7zip-full
[10:09] <ubotu> Package 7zip-full does not exist in dapper
[10:09] <Ashex> bleh, took me forever to pastebin that. pastebin.com isn't being responsive
[10:09] <Chris_Tucker> theres your problem :P
[10:09] <Chris_Tucker> remove 7zip-full
[10:10] <DarkStone> thats what im trying to install
[10:10] <DarkStone> :|
[10:10] <NoUse> DarkStone how are you trying to install it?
[10:10] <DarkStone> sudo dpkg -i p7zip.deb
[10:11] <NoUse> DarkStone sudo apt-get install p7zip
[10:11] <NoUse> DarkStone that deb was probably build for debian
[10:12] <DarkStone> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/p7zip/p7zip_4.30.dfsg-1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 
[10:12] <DarkStone> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[10:12] <DarkStone> sohaib@sohaib-lapto
[10:12] <DarkStone> someone give me a super sources.list?
[10:12] <DarkStone> lol
[10:12] <DarkStone> :|
[10:13] <NoUse> !tell DarkStone about repos
[10:13] <RogueJediZero> DarkStone: Did you try running apt-get update like it said?
[10:13] <DarkStone> yes
[10:13] <NoUse> RogueJediZero that server he's pointing to seems to be down
[10:13] <DarkStone> i get forbidden access error
[10:13] <NoUse> DarkStone you should have gotten a link from ubotu
[10:14] <DarkStone> ok
[10:14] <RogueJediZero> NoUse: Oh. I guess a "whoops" is in order, then
[10:15] <[Nirvana] > edubuntu meeting is on btw: #ubuntu-meeting
[10:15] <[Nirvana] > it might have ended..
[10:16] <[Nirvana] > nope, maybe not
[10:16] <eosyn> I'm getting 403 errors from the mirrors
[10:17] <eosyn> well from the repos
[10:17] <RogueJediZero> Oh, yeah. Speaking of p7zip, is there a nice GUI for it anywhere? Ark is cute, but I can't find the compression options for 7z files
[10:17] <eosyn> :(
[10:18] <CPU_Wizard> hello everybody!
[10:18] <CPU_Wizard> how can i change the kde language?
[10:18] <[Nirvana] > jello
[10:19] <[Nirvana] > CPU_Wizard: open system settings from the K menu
[10:19] <[Nirvana] > and click Regional & accessablility
[10:19] <CPU_Wizard> i did that, i chose my country (At the region settings)
[10:19] <CPU_Wizard> but nothing happened
[10:19] <[Nirvana] > do you have i18n and i10n pkgs?
[10:19] <CPU_Wizard> i don't think so. I just installed kubuntu from live cd
[10:20] <CPU_Wizard> how kai i download these packages?
[10:20] <CPU_Wizard> how can i download these packages?
[10:20] <[Nirvana] > what's your 2 letter country code (where are you from)
[10:20] <CPU_Wizard> Greece so gr i suppose
[10:20] <[Nirvana] > actually.. el = greece
[10:20] <CPU_Wizard> ok
[10:20] <CPU_Wizard> how can i download this package?
[10:21] <[Nirvana] > sudo apt-get install kde-i18n-el
[10:21] <CPU_Wizard> let me try it
[10:21] <Ashex> what's the command to make something executable with chmod?
[10:21] <DrBair> Ashex: chmod +x filename
[10:21] <NoUse> RogueJediZero ark supports 7zip for me
[10:22] <Ashex> awesome, thanks DrBair
[10:22] <CPU_Wizard> [Nirvana] , it's working! After that, what should i do?
[10:22] <[Nirvana] > CPU_Wizard: smile?
[10:22] <gregory_is_ok> I'm having trouble installing anything lately
[10:22] <CPU_Wizard> lol :-)
[10:23] <CPU_Wizard> thank you nirvana! you were very helpfull!
[10:23] <[Nirvana] > is it translated? You may have to ctrl + alt + backspace to restart X after
[10:23] <NoUse> gregory_is_ok what kind of trouble?
[10:23] <[Nirvana] > gregory_is_ok: you from sweden?
[10:23] <CPU_Wizard> so, i log out and in again and it's ok?
[10:23] <douglas_> I recently put together a new system this thing refuses to boot an os, and eventually I found out through memtest and page faults that there is something wrong with either the ram or memory controller...
[10:24] <gregory_is_ok> when I try to install something, it has an error while it is downloading....
[10:24] <bobstro> wow, is something up with some of the repositories?
[10:24] <NoUse> gregory_is_ok pastebin the errors
[10:24] <NoUse> !pastebin
[10:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:24] <geneo93> could be bad processor
[10:24] <douglas_> If I get errors on both sticks in one ram slot, ok so the ram is bad both sticks somehow? Then I plug it into the next slot and I get different errors but once again I get errors
[10:24] <[Nirvana] > CPU_Wizard: ctrl + alt + backspace, then log in again
[10:24] <bobstro> everything was fine earlier. now nothing will install, and i get some freaky messges (Get:84 2006-06-15-1346.19.pdiff [61.0kB] ) with apt-get update
[10:25] <CPU_Wizard> ok, thank you! i'll let you know :-)
[10:25] <c0lL> what is a multicast stream?
[10:25] <gregory_is_ok> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe vlc 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6  403 Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[10:25] <douglas_> Does this indicate a memory error or controller error.
[10:25] <douglas_> ?
[10:25] <RogueJediZero> NoUse: I know, but I miss the options 7-zip for windows gives me like compression algorythm, dictionary size, etc.
[10:25] <bobstro> gregory_is_ok:  i'm having problems now too. was yours ok earlier?
[10:25] <gregory_is_ok> yeah....
[10:26] <[Nirvana] > CPU_Wizard: if you need more translated stuff (like openoffice.org or something), then type--> sudo apt-cache search <program-name> |grep el <--and it should bring up greek translations if there are any
[10:27] <NoUse> gregory_is_ok bobstro that server is down it seems,
[10:27] <gregory_is_ok> ok
[10:27] <[Nirvana] > or sudo apt-cache search <progname> |grep Greek
[10:27] <bobstro> hah, figures. ok will try again later.
[10:27] <NoUse> gregory_is_ok bobstro /msg ubotu repos for a list of sources that should work
[10:27] <gregory_is_ok> are there mirrors or something?
[10:27] <gregory_is_ok> oh
[10:27] <gregory_is_ok> ok
[10:27] <[Nirvana] > yes
[10:27] <eosyn> gregory_is_ok: yep same error
[10:28] <bobstro> the internet is broken :)
[10:28] <CPU_Wizard> It Worksssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!
[10:28] <CPU_Wizard> Thank you very much [Nirvana] !!!!!!!!!
[10:28] <[Nirvana] > to change your mirror, --> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list <-- and change the 2 letter country code to us or ca or de or something
[10:30] <[Nirvana] > CPU_Wizard: actually, the correct file for greek language support is: language-support-el, my bad. so you should--> sudo apt-get install language-support-el
[10:30] <[Nirvana] > he'll be back... they always come back
[10:31] <Ashex> or break down crying screaming out to the linux gods
[10:31] <[Nirvana] > and they'll smite me for telling him the wrong pkg
[10:31] <Ashex> or laugh and say "Stupid n00b"
[10:32] <Ashex> :p
[10:35] <[Nirvana] > must. find. better. ISP
[10:36] <ChristmasCpp> hi all
[10:38] <scast> What's the problem with KControl?
[10:41] <bobstro> scast:  as in?
[10:42] <scast> As in not using it in the default dapper menu.
[10:44] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Dood!
[10:44] <[Nirvana] > scast: because Kubuntu devs made system settings for us to use
[10:49] <Chris_Tucker> how do you list all user groups on a system via CLI?
[10:50] <trappist> Chris_Tucker: getent group | cut -d: -f1
[10:51] <bobstro> scast: still there though
[10:51] <scast> How can I get the default KDE (read: Not Kubuntu's) K Menu content?
[10:51] <scast> bobstro: yes, I know.
[10:52] <trappist> scast: the content is populated by installed packages
[10:53] <jfro> is there a way to get the developer headers etc. for KDE installed? everything i try says it'll BREAK
[10:54] <trappist> jfro: what have you tried?  for most packages, there's a packagename-dev package with the headers for the packages
[10:54] <Chris_Tucker> trappist, i believe he means kcontrol and such
[10:54] <iNiku> isn't there a kde-dev metapackage?
[10:54] <jfro> yeah, wen i try that, i don't hit commit
[10:54] <jfro> cuz
[10:54] <jfro> it claims it'll break things
[10:55] <jfro> instead of install, it says BREAK install in red
[10:55] <trappist> iNiku: no - maybe there should be
[10:55] <jfro> and if i check details, it'll mention it'll replace various packages
[10:55] <iNiku> sorry, kde-devel
[10:55] <iNiku> there is
[10:55] <iNiku> it's a metapackage that includes most of the stuff needed for developing and compiling KDE stuff
[10:55] <trappist> oh... there is a -devel :)
[10:55] <iNiku> or depends on, to be exact...
[10:56] <iNiku> jfro: such as?
[10:56] <jfro> and why i can't install is due to
[10:56] <jfro> kdesdk depended on but won't be installed
[10:56] <jfro> and some others
[10:56] <iNiku> jfro: apt-get install kde-devel
[10:56] <iNiku> what does it say?
[10:57] <jfro> unmet dependencies
[10:57] <jfro> kdesdk, libartsc0-dev,libarts1-dev,kdelibs4-dev,kdebase-dev,libkonq4-dev
[10:57] <jfro> depended on but not going to be installed
[10:57] <iNiku> when you try to do what?
[10:57] <jfro> install kde-devel
[10:58] <trappist> maybe you need to say apt-get -f install
[10:58] <iNiku> yeah, could do an apt-get -f install first
[10:58] <iNiku> in case your system already has broken dependencies
[10:59] <jfro> ok
[10:59] <iNiku> oh
[10:59] <iNiku> I guess you don't have universe and multiverse enabled?
[10:59] <jfro> i have universe
[11:00] <jfro> apt-get -f install
[11:00] <jfro> did nothing
[11:00] <iNiku> okay, that's good
[11:00] <jfro> k
[11:02] <jfro> some of them is do to libglib2.0
[11:04] <Prakti> lo everyone
[11:04] <iNiku> I think you may need multiverse for the kde-devel stuff
[11:04] <Prakti> to which partition does kubuntu suspend on hibernate by default?
[11:04] <jfro> heh this doesn't make sense, libglib2.0-dev needs libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:04] <jfro> but the 2.10.3 one isn't available to be installed
[11:04] <jfro> o.O
[11:05] <crimsun> jfro: do you have -updates properly enabled?
[11:05] <iNiku> Prakti: your swap partition
[11:05] <jfro> -updates?
[11:05] <jfro> dapper-updates ?
[11:06] <Prakti> iNiku: allright
[11:06] <iNiku> jfro: there's definitely something wrong with your sources.list
[11:06] <jfro> dapper-updates was off
[11:06] <iNiku> maybe what crimsun suggested
[11:06] <jfro> just enabled it
[11:07] <jfro> well
[11:07] <Prakti> iNiku: I was quite unsure since there is no resume=/dev/hdaX boot-option in the default menu.lst of Grub
[11:07] <iNiku> did you apt-get update after enabling it?
[11:07] <jfro> yeah
[11:07] <iNiku> Prakti: I'm speaking of something I know very little about here, but I think it's on the initrd somewhere
[11:07] <jfro> but us is hosed for me today
[11:07] <jfro> 403's up the wazoo
[11:08] <jfro> just switched to another one
[11:08] <iNiku> Prakti: which is why it's not in the grub menu.lost
[11:08] <iNiku> menu.lst even
[11:09] <Prakti> iNiku: this is weird. Seems like I might to have to dig a little deeper into that issue.
[11:09] <iNiku> Prakti: are you having problems with hibernation?
[11:09] <Prakti> iNiku: lots.
[11:10] <iNiku> like what?
[11:10] <Prakti> Mostly the graphical frontends like Klaptop or KPowersave seem a little underintegrated, regarding what you just said.
[11:10] <iNiku> um, how do you mean?
[11:10] <Prakti> Klaptop refuses to hibernate properly and wakes up.
[11:11] <jfro> kde-devel still complains about kdesdk, trying kdesdk by itself
[11:11] <Prakti> KPowersave suspends properly (sometimes) but only when I configure the resume-partition manually
[11:11] <Prakti> On some occassions the hibernation fails with an "out of free memory"
[11:12] <Prakti> And usb ist always fscked up on resume.
[11:12] <jfro> think i'm on track, thanks guys
[11:12] <Prakti> Thats really weird.
[11:12] <iNiku> um. well I'm not an expert on hibernation, it Just Works for me... although I don't really use it, I prefer suspend/resume instead, so much quicker.
[11:13] <iNiku> is your swap partition at least the same size as your physical memory
[11:13] <iNiku> ?
[11:13] <Prakti> Sure. Its twice
[11:13] <SurfnKid> mine's 1.5 its size
[11:15] <iNiku> Prakti: you could try running the ACPI scripts directly to rule out any weirdness from the K things
[11:16] <iNiku>  /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh should do it
[11:16] <oputres> Before I go to bed, can someone explain to me what Universe is? Somebody wrote Is universe down earlier...
[11:16] <crimsun> !components
[11:16] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:16] <crimsun> ^^ oputres
[11:17] <Prakti> iNiku: I will try that. Didn't know the script was meant to be run standalone.
[11:17] <Prakti> thanks for the help
[11:17] <Prakti> brb.
[11:18] <iNiku> I guess it's not, really
[11:18] <iNiku> oh well
[11:19] <oputres> Aah, so it's a place (server) were all the free programs, appz, packages etc for Linux is at?
[11:19] <oputres> Is it from the universe apt-get gets the files?
[11:20] <trappist> apt-get gets its files from repositories, one of which is called universe
[11:20] <[Nirvana] > oputres: universe is one place
[11:20] <[Nirvana] > ouch.. beaten
[11:22] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to use Midnight Commander that can help me with a few commands to log in to a remote machine
[11:23] <[Nirvana] > SurfnKid: you can prolly use konqueror... smb:/ no?
[11:24] <SurfnKid> [Nirvana] : um sure. but its to another linux box, i guess i could try
[11:24] <[Nirvana] > is it a samba connection to the other box? or a crossover wire?
[11:25] <SurfnKid> samba as in linux type connection? yeah, boxes are both on a wifi network
[11:25] <oputres> Hmm, I can't find the translation for repository. Never heared it before... So Universe is only one giant server out there on the internet?
[11:25] <SurfnKid> midnight commander is awesome
[11:25] <SurfnKid> just need to know how to bring up the remote session
[11:25] <iNiku> oputres: repository is basically a collection of software packages (in this context)
[11:25] <Prakti> '/etc/acpi/suspend.sh didnt do the thing either.
[11:26] <iNiku> Prakti: you may need to run it with the force argument
[11:26] <Prakti> iNiku:
[11:26] <Prakti> why?
[11:26] <[Nirvana] > oputres: ubuntu has many servers
[11:27] <iNiku> oputres: universe is one such collection of software for ubuntu -- the one that includes all the stuff that has been packaged but is not being maintained by ubuntu folks, basically
[11:27] <oputres> I see. Well it's a new world for me, this Linux. Now I will sleep on it. Good night (it's 11:30 PM in Sweden)
[11:27] <Prakti> I got a quite strange error, echo claimed not to be able to
[11:27] <Prakti> allocate memory
[11:28] <Prakti> so the hibernation command could not be sent into proc/acpi/state
[11:28] <[Nirvana] > info about the repos and what they mean: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:28] <iNiku> uh, that does sound weird indeed
[11:28] <Prakti> I correct: could not be sent to /sys/power/stat
[11:28] <Prakti> I think I will meditate on the problem a little.
[11:28] <Prakti> maybe give suspend2 a go.
[11:29] <iNiku> sounds like your ACPI support may be a little iffy, or something
[11:29] <iNiku> does suspend to memory (ie. sleep) work either?
[11:29] <Prakti> iNiku: suspend to mem works like a charm
[11:29] <Prakti> even fixes the usb error after resume from hibernation
[11:29] <Prakti> but I regard this as a quite crude workaround
[11:30] <Prakti> But frankly I'm disappointed with Kubuntu 6.06 regarding ACPI.
[11:30] <Prakti> Ubuntu 5.10 worked like a charm regarding ACPI
[11:31] <Prakti> and just out of the box.
[11:31] <LjL> Prakti: but *k*ubuntu 5.10 didn't, did it?
[11:31] <Prakti> LjL: I don't know
[11:31] <LjL> for me, neither kubuntu (5.10 or 6.06) worked well with ACPI (meaning sleep and hibernation)
[11:31] <DaSkreech> What should I use to build a GUI in Java?
[11:31] <LjL> ubuntu does work very well with that, though
[11:32] <Prakti> Hmm,....
[11:32] <LjL> though resuming from sleep is still faster on windows, but then what the heck
[11:33] <Prakti> Looks like I need to contact the Kubuntu-ACPI-devs
[11:33] <Prakti> They might need some help.
[11:34] <Prakti> At the moment it's not that bad.
[11:34] <GullyFoyle> woohoo i got flash working in konqueror on amd64!
[11:34] <Prakti> GullyFoyle: congrats
[11:35] <GullyFoyle> using 32bit plugins on 64bit konq
[11:35] <GullyFoyle> now i can use firefoxfor noflash but konq if i need it
[11:36] <Prakti> I'm still struggling with flash on 32bit
[11:37] <Prakti> i386
[11:37] <jbirdAngel> hello
[11:37] <jbirdAngel> it is illegal to listen to an mp3 on linux right? is it legal to convert an mp3 to ogg and then listen to it all on linux? what program should i use to convert if it is?
[11:37] <GullyFoyle> i didnt want to run 32bit firefox just for flash, but once in a while i do want to see flash
[11:38] <DaSkreech> jbirdAngel: It's not illegal
[11:38] <linuxmonkey> jbirdAngel: were not legal advise it may be illegal to do both depending of your country
[11:38] <DaSkreech> it's illeagal to watch a DVD
[11:38] <mikearthur> how do I enable BCF fonts in Kubuntu?
[11:38] <DaSkreech> If you live in the United States :)
[11:39] <mikearthur> jbirdAngel: what country are you in
[11:39] <jbirdAngel> USA
[11:39] <mikearthur> most countries have fair use laws
[11:39] <mikearthur> and in yours, I think its technically illegal
[11:39] <geneo93> its not illegal only if you share them with other ppl outside your familly
[11:39] <mikearthur> but its not the sort of thing that people are getting jailed for
[11:40] <DaSkreech> jbirdAngel: So basically which is more important to you listening tomp3s or staying clear of the legallly blurry sreas?
[11:41] <mindspit> hallo all!
[11:41] <mindspit> can i force kerry beagle search to rescan directories again for new stuff?
[11:42] <mindspit> it does not find anything under /media/hdd1(hard disk using fat32) i have
[11:43] <jbirdAngel> thank you for trying to help, doing the Lord's will is the mos timportant to me, and when the laws dont go against Him then i think it right to follow them, so thats what ill do, have a nice time :)
[11:43] <LjL> jbirdAngel: what about find someone who has a license to read MP3, and ask them to convert yours to Ogg? that someone might be yourself, if you have a licensed version of Windows (for instance)
[11:44] <DaSkreech> jbirdAngel: We must obey God rather than men :)
[11:44] <mindspit> oh god! no more god for me...
[11:44] <LjL> and software patents are unholy. but anyway
[11:44] <DaSkreech> LjL: :-)
[11:44] <mindspit> here in greece we had 12 and all human-ish
[11:45] <mindspit> yes soft patebnts are unholy!
[11:45] <DaSkreech> LjL: Well I think the patent is on creating mp3's so as long as he is not converting TO mp3 he should be good
[11:45] <jbirdAngel> LjL: ya i have windows, i can switch to that, and since any new comps i might buy will probably be laptops its likely ill alwyas have windows on it, but id prefer to save the $ and use linux
[11:45] <LjL> mindspit: here in italy we couldn't think of our own, so we copied your 12
[11:45] <geneo93> lame is free codec that will play mp3's
[11:45] <mindspit> :)
[11:45] <jbirdAngel> DaSkreech: yes we must:) and i most certaintly want to :) thanks
[11:45] <LjL> DaSkreech: i'm not sure about that. if that were the case, then why doesn't ubuntu include mp3 *reading* support?
[11:46] <DaSkreech> LjL: Cause the codec does both
[11:46] <LjL> jbirdAngel: i'm not telling you to use windows in general, but just to convert your mp3 to ogg (as you suggested might be an option for you) so you can listen to the ogg legally on linux
[11:47] <LjL> DaSkreech: uh, *which* codec? there are certainly software programs that do both things, but there are also certainly ones that do only either
[11:47] <geneo93> LjL:  where did you get the idea thats its illegal
[11:47] <crimsun> LjL: in main, you mean?
[11:47] <DaSkreech> And you need to install a mp3 ripping codec alongside a mp3 reading codec?
[11:47] <crimsun> ubuntu actually /does/ include it in main
[11:47] <crimsun> (cf. xmms)
[11:47] <LjL> geneo93: why are you addressing me specifically? we're like 4 people talking about this
[11:48] <geneo93> its not illegal
[11:48] <LjL> crimsun: hm, right, it's not there by default though... why?
[11:48] <jbirdAngel> LjL: ya i could do that, right now though with the websites im browsing has sound files and or video so atleast for browsing this stuff i guess it will be easier to just switch to windows
[11:48] <crimsun> LjL: potential IP enforcement issues
[11:48] <crimsun> LjL: hence, gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 is in universe
[11:48] <LjL> crimsun: which means that an mp3 *decoder* (not *encoder*) *can*, too, be illegal. correct?
[11:49] <LjL> can, or might, or at least there's a patent on it, valid or not
[11:49] <geneo93> lame is gpl'd
[11:49] <crimsun> LjL: potentially, yes, which is why they [should]  all be in universe.
[11:49] <LjL> geneo93: then see what crimsun said, as to the question you asked me
[11:49] <crimsun> lame is even stickier. It's an /encoder/ as well, so it's dumped into multiverse.
[11:50] <geneo93> oh the computer police are coming to get you right now
[11:51] <crimsun> considering I contributed code to LAME, well...
[11:51] <LjL> geneo93: are you trolling or what? you said it wasn't illegal, and yet apparently it is or can be. not you're being sarcastic. are you going to do that no matter what we say?
[11:52] <jbirdAngel> can quicktime play mp3? quicktime is fully legal to run on linux under wine, so if it can play mp3s then that is legal that way isnt it?
[11:52] <LjL> geneo93: surely, Ubuntu has the right to decide that it shouldn't include things that are [believed to be]  illegal.
[11:52] <LjL> jbirdAngel: uh, i guess winamp is legal to run on linux under wine as well. what matters is you having a license
[11:52] <DaSkreech> jbirdAngel: Yes
[11:52] <LjL> unless the EULA of winamp says it can only be run on windows, that is. i doubt that though
[11:53] <geneo93> LjL:  its not included because they dont like sticking there necks out like kororaa
[11:53] <DaSkreech> LjL: Winamp doesn't have a Liscense just an agreement
[11:53] <LjL> DaSkreech: whatever
[11:53] <geneo93> use xmms
[11:53] <LjL> geneo93: it is not included because it's understood to be illegal in some countries.
[11:54] <geneo93> ah why was it installed by default on mine then
[11:54] <LjL> geneo93: what was?
[11:54] <geneo93> xmms
[11:54] <BanskuZ> You have to pay royalties if u live in USA (just a guess).
[11:54] <LjL> geneo93: on what, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu?
[11:55] <geneo93> kubuntu
[11:55] <geneo93> off dvd
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> But canocial is registered in a tax haven it doesn't have to obey usa law
[11:55] <LjL> geneo93: xmms is certainly not installed by default on kubuntu...
[11:55] <LjL> hmm, dvd, i wouldn't know about that.
[11:55] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: America reserves the right to bomb anyone who doesn't pay them money
[11:56] <geneo93> not only that but i got 686 kernel right off that also
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Why haven't they attacked China then
[11:56] <LjL> h3sp4wn: and yet people downloading it might. anyway, it would be fine with me if kubuntu included mp3 support by default, but it makes no sense to just be sarcastic about it and/or deny that it may be illegal in the USA and/or other countries
[11:56] <DaSkreech> China makes them money as an aside
[11:56] <LjL> geneo93: well the 686 kernel at least is certainly very legal ;-)
[11:57] <crimsun> geneo93: xmms is still in main for legacy reasons. It may well disappear into universe.
[11:57] <Official_C> what is 686? is that the 64 bit architecture?
[11:57] <LjL> Official_C: no. it's the pentium architecture, basically
[11:57] <Official_C> so what is 386?
[11:57] <Official_C> the same thing?
[11:57] <LjL> the, uh, 386 architecture? :-)
[11:58] <LjL> Official_C: a 386 kernel will run perfectly on 586, 686, K6, K7 etc
[11:58] <geneo93> 386 is one step above 286
[11:58] <Official_C> k thats what i though
[11:58] <word> w00t the new pure pwnage episode is out ;p
[11:58] <Official_C> so, do you guys have the 686 jernel?
[11:58] <LjL> Official_C: it's just that the more specialized versions use xyz-specific instructions, that may make things faster (where "xyz" is 686, or K7, or whatever --- i believe that's the two intel 32-bit archs that ubuntu offers beside 386)
[11:59] <LjL> Official_C: i have the K7 kernel, because i have an AMD Athlon
[11:59] <DaSkreech> Official_C: 386 is the lowest denominator. It will always work on a x86 machine
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Official_C: It may be slower or not take advatnage of special hardware but it will work
[12:00] <Official_C> is the windowsxp kernel designed for the 386 arch?
[12:00] <LjL> Official_C: as a rough rule, if you have a recent computer, but not a 64-bit one, use 686 if it's an intel, and k7 if it's an AMD. if you have a 64 bit one, use the relevant kernel. if your computer is *quite* old, use the 386 kernel
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Official_C: If you know what Processor you have you can get a more specialized one
[12:00] <LjL> Official_C: using the 386 kernel will be fine on *any* intel-based processor, though
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Official_C: I'd hazzard a yes :)
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> The server kernel is still compiled for 386
[12:01] <LjL> hm i guess windows xp *might* only work on 486 or even pentium... just a guess though
[12:01] <geneo93> except for mine with dual xeons
[12:01] <Official_C> LjL: I have a P4
[12:01] <LjL> Official_C: 686 should be fine
[12:01] <Official_C> ok
[12:01] <LjL> Official_C: anyway, as long as you keep 386 installed, you can always fall back to that at the GRUB boot menu
[12:02] <Official_C> cool
[12:03] <LjL> crimsun: off the record... are you actually putting mp3-stuff out of main because of the possible-in-some-countries illegality, or to encourage using free formats? :)