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bioengine | Hey, what would be a good open source project for an electrical engineer to work on? | 12:12 |
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Burgwork | bioengine, anything at all. What enthuses you | 12:12 |
Burgwork | ? | 12:12 |
bioengine | I need to get electrical engineering experience | 12:12 |
bioengine | because it is required of me as a student | 12:13 |
bioengine | Otherwise, I will be rejected from opportunities at school | 12:13 |
Burgwork | there are some good circuit creation/simulation apps | 12:13 |
bioengine | Open source? | 12:13 |
winkle | oregano for example | 12:13 |
bioengine | Where can I find that app at? | 12:14 |
winkle | http://oregano.gforge.lug.fi.uba.ar/ | 12:14 |
bioengine | Are there other apps that are open source for EE's? | 12:15 |
bioengine | And would they have a development community? | 12:15 |
bioengine | Are there any other projects for EE's that are open source? | 12:18 |
zul | you might want to check google | 12:19 |
bioengine | code.google.com | 12:19 |
Burgwork | bioengine, http://gnomefiles.org/category.php?cat_id=6 | 12:23 |
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bioengine | Thanks | 12:25 |
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Riddell | bioengine: ktechlab | 12:42 |
bioengine | What is ktechlab? | 12:42 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 03:12 |
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dem | anyone can tell me what's the status of of laptop-mode vs upstream in ubuntu? because i wanted to add support for controlling power usage of wireless cards | 03:26 |
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Hobbsee | morning all | 03:57 |
bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | hi bddebian :) | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | jdub: wow, thanks | 03:58 |
Hobbsee | you found my email quick :P | 03:59 |
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fabbione | morning | 05:17 |
Hobbsee | morning fabbione! | 05:18 |
fabbione | hi Hobbsee | 05:18 |
bddebian | Heya fabbione | 05:20 |
fabbione | hi bddebian | 05:20 |
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bddebian | You must be missing X too much? ;-P | 05:21 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 05:22 |
Hobbsee | fabbione: what's teh time there? around 4.20am? | 05:22 |
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fabbione | bddebian: die :) | 05:32 |
fabbione | Hobbsee: yeah 5:30 | 05:32 |
Hobbsee | ouch | 05:32 |
bddebian | :'-( | 05:34 |
Hobbsee | bddebian: surely you want to take it over yourself? :P | 05:34 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: If I had a brain, I wouldn't mind trying | 05:34 |
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Hobbsee | nope, no rocks in there, you must have a brain. | 05:35 |
bddebian | Well, it's very small :-) | 05:35 |
Hobbsee | i didnt hear much of an echo either :P | 05:36 |
ajmitch | morning fabbione :) | 05:41 |
fabbione | hi aj | 05:41 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: That was just all the fluid deadening the echo :-) | 05:43 |
Hobbsee | hah | 05:43 |
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TheMuso | Morning all. | 08:41 |
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jsgotangco | whiprush_: fix your blog heh | 08:46 |
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TheMuso | c | 08:50 |
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Keybuk | oops, NOMALS=-M doesn't work | 09:09 |
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sivang | el: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup/UDSParis | 09:29 |
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Keybuk | *sigh* no time for a nap bof today | 09:52 |
Hobbsee | Keybuk: find coke/ | 09:52 |
Hobbsee | ? | 09:52 |
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Keybuk | of the lines variety? | 09:53 |
Hobbsee | er, coke as in the thing that contains caffeine, and is in a red can. | 09:53 |
Keybuk | I suspect there may be issues with cutting up between BOFs | 09:53 |
ajmitch | now that would cause some interesting specs to be written | 09:53 |
Hobbsee | haha | 09:53 |
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Hobbsee | hi jsgotangco | 09:55 |
jsgotangco | good morning Hobbsee | 09:55 |
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jsgotangco | doh | 09:56 |
jdub | (hard to have breakfast when your first bof is a sleep in bof) | 09:56 |
jsgotangco | jdub: would you like some raw beef with those? | 09:56 |
Hobbsee | jdub: haha. yes, and feed him a new zealander accent too :P | 09:56 |
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ajmitch | Hobbsee should be honoured | 09:57 |
jdub | there must be a kde hacker in nz i confused you with | 09:57 |
Hobbsee | haha | 09:57 |
Hobbsee | jdub: i don tknow of any. but how did you know i was involved with kde? | 09:57 |
jdub | ajmitch: instead, she's offended | 09:57 |
ajmitch | jdub: I can't understand why | 09:58 |
jdub | Hobbsee: you're a kubuntu dude | 09:58 |
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Hobbsee | oh dear. i wonder just how much you know about me. | 09:58 |
jdub | my nickname in canonical is echelon | 09:58 |
jdub | well, i know that you live on the outskirts of civilisation, but only 'cos you told me | 09:59 |
Hobbsee | true, ues | 09:59 |
Hobbsee | *yes | 09:59 |
Hobbsee | now hey, i dont live in kenthurst or penrith - and those are more the outskirts :P | 09:59 |
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ajmitch | at least you don't live in sunny dunedin | 10:00 |
Hobbsee | yes, at an average of -25C | 10:00 |
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Hobbsee | oh, and not really offended - just amused. i really dont have anything against NZ'ers | 10:02 |
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fabbione | guys i am looking for a volunteer to maintain a simple package that's already done | 10:21 |
ajmitch | what is it? | 10:21 |
fabbione | and just need some small cleanup love | 10:21 |
fabbione | ajmitch: openais | 10:21 |
fabbione | i have the package done... | 10:22 |
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fabbione | and i can sponsor it to main | 10:22 |
fabbione | but i don't want to maintain it | 10:22 |
fabbione | (it's not in the archive yet) | 10:22 |
raphink | what does it do? | 10:22 |
jsgotangco | interesting | 10:23 |
fabbione | it's a cluster messagging infrastructure/framewoek | 10:24 |
fabbione | framework even | 10:24 |
raphink | interesting | 10:24 |
jsgotangco | clusters | 10:24 |
jsgotangco | http://developer.osdl.org/dev/openais/ | 10:24 |
fabbione | yeps | 10:25 |
fabbione | that one | 10:25 |
fabbione | anybody interested? | 10:25 |
ajmitch | vaguely so :) | 10:25 |
fabbione | of course who takes the maintainance will also test it | 10:25 |
fabbione | it will be part of my automatic redhat cluster suite testing | 10:26 |
jsgotangco | ajmitch: cluster your laptops | 10:26 |
fabbione | since the new GFS2 relies on openais | 10:26 |
ajmitch | I'm interested, but not sure if I'd use it much | 10:26 |
fabbione | jsgotangco: i do that to test ppc :) | 10:26 |
ajmitch | jsgotangco: sure.. :) | 10:26 |
jsgotangco | heh | 10:26 |
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ajmitch | morning mdz | 10:34 |
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raphink | hi mdz | 10:36 |
raphink | hi slomo | 10:36 |
sivang | glatzor_mobile: ping | 10:36 |
slomo | hi raphink | 10:36 |
raphink | :) | 10:36 |
raphink | work activity: say hi to everybody on IRC | 10:36 |
glatzor_mobile | pong sivang | 10:36 |
raphink | I'l put that in my work report tonight | 10:37 |
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marilize | cvd: ping | 10:39 |
fabbione | marilize: wrong chan :) | 10:40 |
marilize | fabbione: heh, thanks, (morning) | 10:43 |
fabbione | :) | 10:43 |
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mdz | morning | 10:44 |
fabbione | hey mdz | 10:44 |
fabbione | so nobody wants to offer volunteer??? | 10:45 |
jdub | fabbione: for..? | 10:45 |
fabbione | jdub: you win! | 10:46 |
fabbione | jdub: i was just looking for an openais maintainer | 10:46 |
fabbione | jdub: and you won! | 10:46 |
jsgotangco_ | lol | 10:46 |
fabbione | impressive, isn't it? | 10:46 |
ajmitch | or just get a group of people who might care enough - as long as at lesat of them does work it's fine :) | 10:46 |
jdub | I AM TEH WINNAR! | 10:46 |
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Mithrandir | PONY? I WANT A PONY TOO! | 10:47 |
ajmitch | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/no-pony-for-you.jpg | 10:47 |
Mithrandir | I'll have a balcony soon. Then I can get a pony if I want to. *sniff* | 10:48 |
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Hobbsee | haha | 10:49 |
dholbach | http://developer.osdl.org/dev/openais/ is more likely to be the prize pony | 10:49 |
Hobbsee | no Mithrandir, you cant have a pony. | 10:49 |
fabbione | ajmitch: it's not worth a group of people.. it's not even 400KB of source | 10:50 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I might not have one, but I can get one if I want to. :-P | 10:50 |
jdub | "The project implements cutting edge research on virtual synchrony to provide 100% correct operation in the face of failures or partitionable networks with excellent performance characteristics." | 10:50 |
jdub | pfft | 10:50 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: no you cant. you're not allowed. | 10:50 |
jdub | I WANT MY VIRTUAL SYNCHRONY! | 10:51 |
jdub | Mithrandir: (PONY) <- not yours. | 10:51 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I'm sorry, but the person who'd be able to deny me that would be simira, not you. | 10:51 |
Mithrandir | ;-) | 10:51 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: hehe, i spoke to simira last night :P | 10:51 |
Mithrandir | about ponies? | 10:51 |
jdub | and she said | 10:51 |
jdub | NO PONY! | 10:51 |
jdub | COME BACK ONE YEAR | 10:51 |
Hobbsee | no, i said you were locked in the basement, and that she couldnt speak to you, as there was no wifi down there. | 10:52 |
Mithrandir | we have a basement here? | 10:52 |
jsgotangco_ | the restaurant has a basement restroom | 10:53 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: of course | 10:53 |
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Hobbsee | Mithrandir: how on earth would i know? i've not even been in the continent, let alone inside the building! | 10:54 |
jdub | not even incontinent? | 10:54 |
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fabbione | meh | 10:55 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: it's a quite nice continent. | 10:55 |
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\sh | jdub: tststs...;) | 10:55 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: you should come visit one time. | 10:55 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: i'm sure it is, but i no longer have a passport. | 10:55 |
\sh | Hobbsee: but don't come near jdub...he bites | 10:55 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I'm sure you're able to get a new one. | 10:55 |
\sh | ;) | 10:55 |
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Hobbsee | \sh: something tells me i dont have much choice there. | 10:56 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: it's a bit like saying you don't have a boarding pass and therefore can't go. | 10:56 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: true, but it makes sense to wait till i'm over 18.. | 10:56 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: well, true. | 10:56 |
Mithrandir | but that's not very far away, is it? | 10:56 |
Hobbsee | no | 10:56 |
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Hobbsee | one month and one day - what should i do? | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | haha | 10:57 |
Mithrandir | \sh: I have one. In my camera. | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: was he asleep at the time? | 10:57 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: no, he was talking to somebody and didn't see me | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | ah, i see | 10:58 |
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Mithrandir | jdub: I'm in the same building as you. Applying the golp is not a good idea. | 11:00 |
TheMuso | Hobbsee: You sound older than you are. :) | 11:01 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: thanks. | 11:02 |
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TheMuso | np :) | 11:02 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: if he says that in ten years, you can twap him. :-) | 11:02 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: hehe | 11:02 |
TheMuso | lol | 11:02 |
TheMuso | I thought Hobbsee was in her early twenties at least. | 11:03 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 11:03 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: you thought i was human, too | 11:03 |
TheMuso | i see no reason why I should think otherwise. | 11:03 |
ajmitch | and then there are those who think she's from NZ.. | 11:03 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: no, we're just amazed at the author writing such a good IRC bot. | 11:03 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 11:04 |
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TheMuso | \/me will wait to see that for himself at the first SLUG meeting that Hobbsee attends. :) | 11:04 |
Hobbsee | hah | 11:04 |
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Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I hear you claim that, but I haven't seen anything to prove that. | 11:04 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: thought i showed you a picture :P | 11:05 |
Mithrandir | that didn't have any context. Like, your IRC session with this channel open. | 11:06 |
ajmitch | she just has to come along to the next conf | 11:06 |
Hobbsee | oh, as in, you wanted a pic of me next to my computer? | 11:06 |
sivang | Everybody, there's a BoF going on now about an automatic free space making proggy, anybody interested is welcome to join. | 11:07 |
spungles | thom: ping? | 11:07 |
ajmitch | sivang: you're straying horribly off-topic here :) | 11:07 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 11:07 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: nah, I've decided you're just a brilliantly written IRC bot and am happy with my knowledge. :-P | 11:07 |
Hobbsee | yes, while the high and mighty devs are away, the not so high and mighty devs will play :P | 11:07 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: haha okay | 11:07 |
sivang | ajmitch: hmm, is there a proper channel to announce something like to people ? :-) | 11:08 |
Hobbsee | sivang: yeah. not this one. | 11:08 |
thom | spungles: ack | 11:08 |
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spungles | thom: learnt dutch yet? | 11:13 |
simira | Hobbsee: are you a dev? | 11:16 |
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Hobbsee | ajmitch: answer simira's question :P | 11:16 |
simira | Hobbsee: are you a dictator? | 11:17 |
ajmitch | simira: yes | 11:17 |
Hobbsee | simira: well, my name is sarah, and i'm told that means i'm supposed to boss everyone around. | 11:17 |
simira | Hobbsee: I must admit I thought you were a boy *blush* | 11:18 |
Hobbsee | haha | 11:18 |
simira | there are not many girls in here... me Claire, Jane and Silbs, I think | 11:18 |
Hobbsee | simira: yes, that's a fairly logical assumption to make | 11:18 |
Hobbsee | yeah wow :P | 11:18 |
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simira | Hobbsee: and just as you know, I am deadly jealus of you all for being in CDG. There'l probably be a not-so-mysterious massacre next time I join in | 11:19 |
Riddell | ogra: ok for kubuntu hwdb at 15:00? | 11:19 |
simira | just *so* you know | 11:20 |
Hobbsee | simira: CDG? | 11:20 |
Riddell | Hobbsee isn't here (sadly) | 11:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: BOO! | 11:20 |
simira | Charles De Gaulle, Hobbsee | 11:20 |
Hobbsee | simira: i'm here in australia... | 11:20 |
apokryphos | wrong train? | 11:20 |
ogra | Riddell, i only have a free slot between 16:00 and 17:00 | 11:20 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: where's here? going to be running via TS? | 11:20 |
simira | Hobbsee: you, you're just irc-invading the conf? You seem like you're there, you know... :p | 11:21 |
Hobbsee | simira: hehe, yes, i'm here on irc - i have no passport, and no plane ticket. | 11:21 |
simira | Hobbsee: *all* of them are in Paris now for the distro summit. Except for me *cries* | 11:21 |
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ajmitch | simira: not all, sadly | 11:21 |
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Hobbsee | not all of them are... | 11:21 |
fabbione | simira: no no.. i am home too | 11:22 |
simira | ajmitch: no, I am the one not being there... ;) | 11:22 |
simira | fabbione: are you why? Is Ulla down soon? | 11:22 |
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ogra | pitti, ? | 11:22 |
fabbione | simira: yeah.. too close to Ulla's delivery :) | 11:23 |
pitti | ogra: EBUSY | 11:23 |
ogra | pitti, we need to talk if you have 2-5min later | 11:23 |
Mithrandir | ajmitch: can we do a status meeting for networkauth today? | 11:23 |
simira | fabbione: tell her hi from me and good luck! | 11:23 |
ajmitch | Mithrandir: when? | 11:23 |
fabbione | simira: will do :) | 11:24 |
Mithrandir | ajmitch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-21/tfheen is my schedule, so now'd work | 11:24 |
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ajmitch | lucky you, busy for the rest of the day | 11:25 |
ajmitch | I guess now will be ok - I'll get dinner later :) | 11:25 |
Hobbsee | haha - around midnight ajmitch? | 11:26 |
ajmitch | Hobbsee: hm? | 11:26 |
simira | hm. Remember we have a date, Mithrandir | 11:26 |
ajmitch | I would never leave it that late.. | 11:26 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: the time for dinner | 11:26 |
Mithrandir | simira: always, my love. | 11:26 |
Hobbsee | simira: when you do get to be here, and i'm there at the same time, tell me, and we'll take over the world, okay? | 11:28 |
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Mithrandir | Hobbsee: http://www.linuxrising.org/screenshots/bella.png | 11:30 |
Mithrandir | (warning: pink overload) | 11:31 |
Hobbsee | oooohh...OUCH! | 11:31 |
Hobbsee | that is beyond scary! | 11:31 |
apokryphos | ouch; the xmms in there was the finisher | 11:31 |
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Hobbsee | Mithrandir: urgh....man tha'ts terrible! | 11:32 |
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Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I'm sure the ubuntu-women would be delighted to have such a theme. :-/ | 11:33 |
fabbione | Mithrandir: i want that theme! | 11:33 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: hah | 11:33 |
Hobbsee | Mithrandir: you should send that to ubuntu art mailing list, and say "sabdfl says that all artwork should become like this" just as a joke :P | 11:33 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: it's not April 1st. :-P | 11:34 |
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Hobbsee | Mithrandir: a delayed one :P | 11:34 |
fabbione | http://www.linuxrising.org/screenshots/jeffsmilling.png | 11:34 |
Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I'd obviously fake it decently. | 11:34 |
fabbione | OMG :) | 11:34 |
fabbione | jdub: ^^ | 11:34 |
Hobbsee | haha | 11:34 |
simira | :) | 11:35 |
jdub | pfft | 11:36 |
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\sh | /dev/sdb1 6.3T 54G 6.3T 1% /data - go ubuntu mirror go | 12:08 |
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mdeboer | hi. with hoary, i run into many difficulties trying to use a more recent (dapper) kernel. will this be the same with dapper? i believe the kernel has settled down quite a bit since hoary, so maybe running the 2.6.17 edgy kernel on dapper is feasible? | 12:13 |
jdub | more feasible | 12:13 |
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jdub | there were userland changes in dapper to use the kernel effectively, so it's much less likely to work on older distros | 12:14 |
mdeboer | yes, i am aware of this. so, there are no such dapper userland/edgy userland incompatibilities? | 12:14 |
fabbione | mdeboer: not yet.. too early to say | 12:15 |
jdub | no one has added any so far ;) | 12:15 |
mdeboer | ok :-) | 12:15 |
mdeboer | ok. i'll give it a try soon | 12:16 |
ajmitch | maybe some fun with udev | 12:16 |
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highvoltage | 12:08 <@Vhata> weiers: do you run gnome or KDE? | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:08 < weiers> I run gnome Vhata | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:10 <@Vhata> do you run any other KDE apps apart from amarok? | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:10 <@highvoltage> Spinach: hola! | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:10 <@Vhata> what happened after you did those 'killall -9' commands? | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:10 < Spinach> howdy, highvoltage! | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:10 < weiers> Ok, it would seem that between killall -3 and killall -9 something worked, because I was able to | 12:17 |
mdeboer | my main interest is to apply the latest rt-preempt patch http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/ | 12:17 |
highvoltage | launch the programme and got it to work. | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:11 < weiers> Vhata, I don't think that I am consciously running any other kde apps. | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:12 <@Vhata> did you run it from a terminal this time? | 12:17 |
seb128 | flooood | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:12 < weiers> yes | 12:17 |
highvoltage | 12:13 <@Vhata> go to the "settings" menu, and then to "Configure global shortcuts", and find the "Toggle Playlist | 12:17 |
highvoltage | Window" option, and set a shortcut there (I use windows+P), so that you can bring the window up | 12:17 |
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jsgotangco | err??? | 12:17 |
highvoltage | whenever you want | 12:17 |
highvoltage | ugh, sorry about that | 12:17 |
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neuralis | highvoltage: dude, STOP FLOODING | 12:17 |
jsgotangco | highvoltage: bless you | 12:17 |
jsgotangco | he's all red now haha | 12:17 |
Hobbsee | haha | 12:18 |
jdub | GLOWING JONATHAN CARTER | 12:18 |
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jdub | REPORT TO THE SICK BAY IMMEDIATELY | 12:18 |
rodarvus | haha | 12:18 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 12:18 |
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jdub | dude | 12:18 |
jdub | holy shit | 12:18 |
jdub | turn that thing off | 12:18 |
LaserJock | lol, highvoltage is soooo red | 12:19 |
rodarvus | <highvoltage> err, hi | 12:19 |
highvoltage | sorry!! wrote with my notepad on notwbook. and copied and pasted accidentally (extremely embarrased here) | 12:19 |
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Hobbsee | highvoltage: your client doesnt have a "stop accidental paste" feature? | 12:20 |
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highvoltage | Hobbsee: it's supposed to, normally it asks press ctrl+c to cancel or ctrl+k to let it through, i don't know what went wrong here, i'm just going to back away from my laptop for a while :) | 12:20 |
Hobbsee | highvoltage: ah okay. hehe, yes before it bites | 12:21 |
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LaserJock | highvoltage: maybe your laptop has caught a bug from the French power ;-) | 12:21 |
Hobbsee | haha | 12:21 |
simira | hm | 12:22 |
simira | where's mvo? | 12:22 |
thom | LaserJock: nah, then it wouldn't do /anything/ | 12:22 |
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LaserJock | thom: good point | 12:22 |
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ogra | mdke, around ? | 01:01 |
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zul | hey | 01:28 |
ajmitch | hi zul :) | 01:28 |
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zul | hey ajmitch | 01:28 |
Hobbsee | hi zul and ajmitch | 01:29 |
zul | hey Hobbsee | 01:29 |
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ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 01:32 |
Hobbsee | where are the logs for why my system froze held? | 01:33 |
Hobbsee | i thought it was /var/log/messages, but there's nothign too obvious there | 01:33 |
zul | kern.log maybe. | 01:34 |
thom | kern.log, old dmesg, syslog are all possibilities | 01:35 |
Hobbsee | ok | 01:36 |
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Mithrandir | can somebody get mdz onto irc, please? | 02:25 |
seb128 | Mithrandir: he has no computer in front of him atm | 02:26 |
seb128 | Mithrandir: should I forward him a message? | 02:27 |
Mithrandir | seb128: I was wondering why my optimized live cd for faster boot was put back to drafting rather than approved and if I can just change the time estimate a bit and set it directly to approved. | 02:27 |
Hobbsee | jdub: heya. you dont have to use TS - if you were wanting to run the discussion offline, that's cool, i was just going to listen | 02:33 |
jdub | Hobbsee: only have two of us with mics | 02:34 |
jdub | Hobbsee: i've asked mvo to use his now | 02:34 |
jdub | (just there was no one in the channel earlier, so we didn't bother) | 02:34 |
Hobbsee | jdub: yeah, that's cool. i just saw it, and saw it looked interesting, and was going to listen in, if it didnt cause trouble | 02:34 |
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Keybuk | can anybody see jbailey from where they are? | 02:38 |
netgrabber | I think i solved bug #38335 maybe someone can review my "work"? | 02:38 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 38335 in ipodder "UVF exception - iPodder no longer supported" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38335 | 02:38 |
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Hobbsee | jdub: wow, it's working nicely :) | 02:40 |
seb128 | Mithrandir: network issue, I was saying that mdz has no computer in front of him atm ... any message to forward? | 02:40 |
Mithrandir | seb128: 14:27 < Mithrandir> seb128: I was wondering why my optimized live cd for faster boot was put back to drafting rather than approved and if I can just change the time estimate a bit and set it directly to approved. | 02:41 |
seb128 | Mithrandir: ok, no hurry for that probably, can wait after the BOF right? | 02:42 |
Mithrandir | seb128: sure. | 02:42 |
seb128 | ok | 02:42 |
netgrabber | I have DEBIAN/md5sums in my .diff is this ok? | 02:45 |
netgrabber | I don't think so | 02:45 |
Mithrandir | netgrabber: no, it's not ok | 02:45 |
netgrabber | how can I fix this? | 02:46 |
Mithrandir | you've probably forgotten to run dh_clean | 02:46 |
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tseng | er? | 02:46 |
netgrabber | I used debuild | 02:46 |
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Hobbsee | jdub: how much longer will the smart BOF go for? | 02:57 |
ozamosi | I need to get in touch with smurf asap, but he's been away for 48 hours, and he's not answering mail. Can anyone tell me how to reach him? | 02:57 |
jdub | Hobbsee: kinda finishing time | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | jdub: yeah, just heard - mornfall forgot about it | 03:00 |
mjg59 | jdub: Pong? | 03:01 |
mjg59 | If it was about the pants, aes has been working all week so far | 03:01 |
mjg59 | Should be able to get them this evening or tomorrow | 03:01 |
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netgrabber | Can I upload packages created by myself on launchpad? | 03:07 |
dholbach | netgrabber: you might want to have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 03:08 |
dholbach | netgrabber: if you're not in the ubuntu-dev or ubuntu-core-dev team, your uploads to the buildd will be rejected | 03:08 |
netgrabber | dholbach: my situation is a bit complicated | 03:09 |
netgrabber | ipodder is no longer supported by upstream. it is now called castpodder, I did the migration | 03:09 |
netgrabber | it is bug #38335 | 03:10 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 38335 in ipodder "UVF exception - iPodder no longer supported" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/38335 | 03:10 |
dholbach | netgrabber: I doubt we're going to introduce a package which conflicts the old one in a stable release | 03:10 |
dholbach | netgrabber: in edgy i'm sure this will be remedied | 03:10 |
netgrabber | I allready did the work... | 03:11 |
netgrabber | maybe my patch is usefull? | 03:11 |
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dholbach | assign it to 'motureviewers' for edgy | 03:11 |
dholbach | and we'll get it done | 03:11 |
dholbach | and thanks for your work | 03:12 |
seb128 | Mithrandir: he said he don't remember what he wrote to the witheboard but you can't set it to approve no | 03:12 |
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netgrabber | assign? | 03:12 |
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seb128 | Mithrandir: and he runned away quickly after than, maybe best to do your change and set it for review again | 03:12 |
Mithrandir | seb128: well, the change's not in the spec.. it'd be in the "how much time is allocated for this". | 03:13 |
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kane__ | Mithrandir: hi ... i wonder, do you remember the bug #48164 ? | 03:24 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 48164 in xorg "Video corruption at installation of xserver-xorg" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/48164 | 03:24 |
Mithrandir | kane__: yes, why? | 03:25 |
kane__ | Mithrandir: well, a couple of days ago, I appended splash to the kernel line in GRUB, and the usplash came up without any video corruption | 03:26 |
kane__ | Mithrandir: any ideas what may be the problem ? | 03:27 |
Mithrandir | kane__: X probably corrupts the display if there's a framebuffer there already. | 03:28 |
Mithrandir | kane__: that usplah works doesn't really matter. | 03:29 |
kane__ | Mithrandir: hmm ok | 03:30 |
netgrabber | dholbach: Successfully uploaded packages. | 03:30 |
dholbach | netgrabber: cool | 03:30 |
ajmitch | netgrabber: please upload source-only packages :) | 03:31 |
netgrabber | sorry | 03:31 |
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ajmitch | use debuild -S -sa | 03:31 |
netgrabber | should I redo it? | 03:31 |
ajmitch | yes please | 03:31 |
netgrabber | Already uploaded to revu.tauware.de | 03:32 |
netgrabber | Doing nothing for castpodder_5.0_i386.changes | 03:32 |
LaserJock | use the _source.changes file with dput netgrabber | 03:33 |
ajmitch | not that one | 03:33 |
netgrabber | ah ok | 03:33 |
netgrabber | done | 03:34 |
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netgrabber | where are those files now? | 03:35 |
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netgrabber | dholbach: can I point on launchpad to this files? | 03:46 |
mdke | dholbach: heya :) there is an ubuntu-docs package for dapper-updates waiting in our dapper branch, if you happen to have any time in the next few days | 03:47 |
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mdz | jdub: ping? | 03:53 |
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Riddell | anyone seen ogra? | 03:55 |
sladen | Riddell: sitting outside the downstairs toilets | 03:55 |
Riddell | sladen: could you ask him if he can join us for hwdb talk? | 03:56 |
sladen | Riddell: mmm, good excuse to go past the cake stand. Where should I send him? | 03:56 |
Riddell | sladen: upstairs to olympe | 03:56 |
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Riddell | sladen: progress? | 04:01 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: he's still busy at the cake stand, probably :P | 04:02 |
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dholbach | Riddell: ogra is in another session still | 04:07 |
dholbach | Riddell: and sladen is still sitting there | 04:07 |
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jdong|coreduo | why has xfsprogs been taken out of standard-*? | 04:22 |
jdong|coreduo | is Ubuntu dropping support for XFS?? | 04:22 |
jdong|coreduo | and same for reiserfs | 04:22 |
_ion | pool/main/x/xfsprogs/xfsprogs_2.7.7-1_i386.deb | 04:24 |
_ion | Oh, i misread your question. | 04:24 |
jdong|coreduo | Edgy's ubuntu-meta upload today | 04:25 |
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pitti | ivoks: hi! | 04:37 |
pitti | ivoks: thanks for trying the redhat cups stuff! looks quite nice indeed | 04:37 |
pitti | ivoks: today I also sat together with the Mandriva printing guy, he showed me printerdrake | 04:38 |
ivoks | and? | 04:38 |
seb128 | is that package somewhere online? | 04:39 |
ivoks | redha tool is too much redhat | 04:39 |
ivoks | :) | 04:39 |
ivoks | it depends on druid for printer detection, so that part should be rewritten if we want that solution | 04:39 |
seb128 | what is wrong with a druid? | 04:40 |
ivoks | so, I had an idea of writting our own code... | 04:40 |
ivoks | seb128: nothing | 04:40 |
seb128 | we "just" have to writte code, good : | 04:40 |
seb128 | :p | 04:40 |
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pitti | ivoks: mandriva uses some perl-gtk stuff with a mandriva GUI library on top of foomatic | 04:41 |
pitti | ivoks: it's quite good, too, but it'll also require hacking, and moreover, severe UI cleanup | 04:41 |
ivoks | pitti: just like RH tool | 04:41 |
ivoks | so, dead end? :) | 04:41 |
pitti | ivoks: is the rh one really so evil? | 04:42 |
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ivoks | pitti: well, no.. | 04:42 |
ivoks | pitti: it's python | 04:42 |
ajmitch | at least the rh one will be python, right? :) | 04:42 |
ajmitch | like most of their tools now | 04:42 |
pitti | heh | 04:42 |
ivoks | so, it should be easy to reimplement it :) | 04:42 |
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ivoks | rh tool depends on few libs we don't have in ubuntu | 04:45 |
ajmitch | import those libs if needed | 04:46 |
ivoks | that's the easiest part | 04:46 |
ajmitch | shouldn't be a big challenge to package them - there's a few RH tools I'd like to see in ubuntu | 04:46 |
jdong|coreduo | don't most of the rh tools depend on the huge-ass "redhat python library of goodies"? | 04:46 |
ivoks | jdong|coreduo: it does | 04:47 |
ivoks | like this rhpl | 04:47 |
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jdong|coreduo | I was bored one day | 04:47 |
ivoks | i think that's lib for localisation | 04:47 |
jdong|coreduo | yeah, rhpl was one of them | 04:47 |
jdong|coreduo | do we just want to import those as-is? | 04:47 |
jdong|coreduo | I got a feeling Ubuntu has different mechanisms for the functionality... | 04:48 |
ivoks | bottom line, i'm not programer and I can't repackage it for ubuntu by my self | 04:49 |
ivoks | or, at least, not for edgy :) | 04:49 |
jdong|coreduo | :) | 04:50 |
ajmitch | ivoks: so get one of us to do it - I'd like 1 or 2 of those tools for selinux config | 04:50 |
pitti | ivoks: how could you do screenshots on dapper if you don't have the libs? | 04:51 |
ivoks | pitti: i compiled them :) | 04:51 |
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ivoks | :) | 04:52 |
pitti | :) | 04:52 |
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ivoks | printconf starts nicely | 04:52 |
ivoks | and it detects all config there were before | 04:52 |
ivoks | but it doesn't recognise printers | 04:52 |
ivoks | (it doesn't autodetect them) | 04:53 |
ivoks | since all the tools it uses for detection aren't in ubuntu | 04:53 |
ivoks | it would be better to rewrite that part | 04:53 |
Yagisan | pitti: you using a kernel patch for ssp ? IIRC the kernel didn't build with ssp (but I haven't checked in a while) | 04:54 |
pitti | Yagisan: I'm just running a test build | 04:54 |
pitti | Yagisan: it's running for ~ 30 minutes, works fine so far | 04:54 |
pitti | Yagisan: (the build is running, not the kernel) | 04:54 |
TheMuso | Keybuk: When you have a minute, could you please have a glance over SpokenBoot, and let me know if I have writtup what discussed earlier correctly? Thanks in advance. | 04:56 |
jdub | mjg59: reping | 05:02 |
jdub | mdke: ping | 05:02 |
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mjg59 | jdub: Hi | 05:09 |
jdub | mjg59: hey - did you get my pants mail? | 05:10 |
mjg59 | jdub: Yeah | 05:10 |
mjg59 | jdub: I'm on it | 05:10 |
_ion | "did you get my pants by mail?" | 05:11 |
jdub | mjg59: rad | 05:11 |
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Mithrandir | jdub: does there exist a usable tool for making UI mockups? | 05:14 |
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sladen | Mithrandir: glade | 05:16 |
Mithrandir | sladen: it's not very good when I want to put in example data and such, IME. | 05:17 |
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bddebian | Hello | 05:18 |
jdub | Mithrandir: not wildly | 05:18 |
jdub | Mithrandir: but yeah, glade is an okay start | 05:18 |
jdub | Mithrandir: plus gimp for putting shit inside | 05:18 |
msw | jdub: Stetic was nice | 05:19 |
Mithrandir | jdub: glade makes me want to poke my eyes out, but I'll see what I can do. | 05:19 |
bddebian | heh | 05:19 |
jdub | Mithrandir: try gazpacho | 05:19 |
msw | http://gazpacho.sicem.biz/ | 05:19 |
Mithrandir | iz packaged. | 05:19 |
msw | and written in python | 05:19 |
jdub | msw: debian/ubuntu users don't use sourceforge, freshmeat, or websites :) | 05:20 |
Mithrandir | software not in Debian/Ubuntu doesn't exist. | 05:20 |
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msw | #ubuntu-devel | 05:20 |
Mithrandir | jdub: it looks better, at least. Thanks. | 05:22 |
jdub | how do you purge with smart? | 05:23 |
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pitti | Yagisan: oh, shit, kernel linking indeed fails since it doesn't find the __stack_chk_fail symbol | 05:30 |
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mdke | jdub: hi. email would be best at the moment, am a bit swamped at work | 05:34 |
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mdke | jdub: go ahead here though if it is something simple | 05:34 |
apokryphos | jdub: no option currently; it'll be added for 0.42 I hear though | 05:34 |
jdub | mdke: hrm? | 05:35 |
mdke | jdub: you pinged | 05:35 |
mdke | no? | 05:35 |
jdub | no | 05:35 |
jdub | unless i did ages ago | 05:36 |
mdke | 34 minutes ago | 05:36 |
tseng | you absolutely did. | 05:36 |
tseng | at 11:02 | 05:36 |
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thom | jdub: senility STRIKES! | 05:37 |
jdub | i have *no* idea what for | 05:37 |
jdub | 34 minutes ago?! | 05:37 |
seb128 | we should force people to ping with some context | 05:38 |
jdub | i so did not | 05:38 |
BenC | (spam) http://mkdump.sourceforge.net/ | 05:38 |
mdke | no worries | 05:38 |
seb128 | you so did | 05:38 |
Gman | thom, next will be blader control :) | 05:38 |
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jsgotangco | jdub: its those tam tams | 05:39 |
jsgotangco | tsk tsk | 05:39 |
jdub | ROAR! | 05:39 |
sivang | jsgotangco: didn't you mean tim tams? | 05:40 |
seb128 | we should not let jdub have meat at lunch, he's ROARING now | 05:40 |
sivang | lol | 05:40 |
jsgotangco | sivang: yeah thanks | 05:41 |
sivang | hmmm I would just love having a tim tam now. mmm | 05:42 |
Gman | get a penguin bar instead...they're the real tim tams.. | 05:42 |
thom | Gman: *giggle* x 2 | 05:42 |
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thom | jdub: watch out for the arthritus! | 05:51 |
tseng | thom: :( | 05:51 |
tseng | my hand is starting to hurt lately | 05:52 |
desrt | too much... uh.... coding. | 05:52 |
thom | tseng: i recommend ion3 and as little mousing as possible. did wonders for my rsi | 05:53 |
bddebian | I don't suppose anyone would want to help me with a broken Edgy? | 05:53 |
desrt | "Ubuntu Development (not support, even with edgy)" | 05:54 |
desrt | :) | 05:54 |
HiddenWolf | desrt: ;) | 05:54 |
simira | bddebian: seriously? | 05:54 |
Mithrandir | I recommend laptops in your lap against rsi. | 05:55 |
Mithrandir | and feet on the table. | 05:55 |
desrt | rsi is teh suck | 05:55 |
ogra | Mithrandir, pingedipingf | 05:55 |
ogra | -f | 05:55 |
Mithrandir | ogra: I have no idea what a diping is, but here's a dupong. | 05:56 |
bddebian | simira: Yeah, I updated one of my Dapper dev boxes to Edgy to start on some packaging and it's hosed | 05:56 |
ogra | Mithrandir, is ldap server management etc planned for the network auth SoC ? | 05:56 |
bddebian | desrt: I am well aware that this is not a support channel | 05:56 |
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thom | bddebian: may i commend the concept of chroots to you? | 05:56 |
Mithrandir | ogra: read the spec? | 05:56 |
simira | bddebian: somepeople's early... good luck on you! | 05:57 |
bddebian | thom: On some of my machines I will do that | 05:57 |
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seb128 | bddebian: don't update to edgy :p | 06:00 |
ogra | Mithrandir, what about this ton of additional remarks, its not really clear *what* exactly is planned from them ... or are they just random user comments ? | 06:00 |
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thom | bddebian: seriously, don't run dev trees this early, they will *NOT* work in any useful form consistently | 06:00 |
ogra | (at the bottom of the wikipage) | 06:00 |
zul | bddebian: rember only you can prevent yourself from upgrading | 06:01 |
Mithrandir | ogra: they're random user comments. | 06:01 |
ogra | Mithrandir, thanks :) | 06:01 |
ajmitch | ogra: complain to me about it | 06:01 |
ajmitch | for some reason I'm still awake | 06:01 |
Hobbsee | go sleep then ajmitch :P | 06:01 |
Mithrandir | ajmitch: work harder! :-P | 06:02 |
ajmitch | yes sir! right away sir! | 06:02 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: good slave. | 06:03 |
ogra | ajmitch, do you plan to do anything on the server side for edgy already (the spec says just that it might take long or even not :) ) | 06:04 |
ogra | (and as i understood it initially the server wasnt planned yet) | 06:04 |
ajmitch | ogra: yes | 06:04 |
Hobbsee | night all | 06:05 |
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ogra | yes ou plan to do anything on the server ? or yes the server wasnt planned yet ? | 06:05 |
ogra | s/ou/you/ | 06:05 |
ajmitch | ogra: yes I plan to, does the spec need clarified there? | 06:05 |
ogra | well, it could | 06:05 |
ajmitch | ok | 06:06 |
ogra | we'll make the fat client spec depending on it then, thanks for clearifying it :) | 06:06 |
ajmitch | yes, I plan to run an LDAP & Kerberos server, have some user/group management & migration tools | 06:06 |
ogra | ok, great :) | 06:07 |
ajmitch | sounds interesting :) | 06:07 |
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ogra | fat clients wont work without network auth and nobody of us wants to duplicate your work ... | 06:07 |
ajmitch | it would be a bit painful to have duplication | 06:08 |
ogra | it not a high prio anyway | 06:08 |
ajmitch | no, but I've got to push what I've done/am doing onto the supermirror soon | 06:08 |
ajmitch | so we can all play along together | 06:08 |
ajmitch | having some filesystem mounting would be useful though | 06:09 |
ajmitch | & could be done without too much extra hassle | 06:09 |
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bddebian | Heya Keybuk | 06:13 |
Yagisan | pitti: IIRC there is a patch for ssp, but only on amd64. It was a 2 part patch. 1 for kernel, & 1 for gcc. It should be on lkml, but you'd need to hunt for it. | 06:14 |
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lifeless | Keybuk: would like 5 minutes of your time.. | 06:18 |
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thom | lifeless: do you and keybuk have something going on? you two keep sneaking off together ;-) | 06:23 |
Keybuk | lifeless: POSEIDON | 06:23 |
lifeless | Keybuk: no need to shout :) | 06:24 |
lifeless | thom: what do you think? | 06:24 |
Keybuk | thom: yes, now he's lost all that weight he's a hottie | 06:24 |
lifeless | be up in a minute | 06:24 |
thom | SEE | 06:25 |
bddebian | uhm | 06:25 |
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raphink | what might prevent dh_installinit from creating the rc links ? | 06:28 |
raphink | i've got a package here that somehow doesn't create the links after installing the init.d script | 06:28 |
Keybuk | depression, ennui, malaise, etc. | 06:29 |
Keybuk | raphink: do any links already exist? | 06:29 |
raphink | nope | 06:29 |
raphink | not for this daemon at least | 06:29 |
Keybuk | grep update-rc.d .../postinst | 06:29 |
shawarma | raphink: dh_installinit writes the code to do it into postinst.. | 06:29 |
shawarma | raphink: er... yeah, what Keybuk said. :-) | 06:30 |
raphink | shawarma: ok | 06:30 |
raphink | yeah postinst doesn't have it | 06:30 |
shawarma | raphink: Which package is this? | 06:31 |
raphink | shawarma: a private one ;) | 06:31 |
raphink | in that case | 06:31 |
Keybuk | man dh_installinit | 06:31 |
raphink | that's what I did Keybuk | 06:31 |
raphink | it's not very clear though ;) | 06:31 |
shawarma | raphink: Ok. | 06:32 |
shawarma | raphink: Are you sure it's called at all? | 06:32 |
Keybuk | man update-rc.d | 06:32 |
Keybuk | (which is what dh_installinit causes to be called in postinst) | 06:32 |
Keybuk | raphink: does your postinst have | 06:32 |
Keybuk | #DEBHELPER# | 06:32 |
Keybuk | ? | 06:32 |
raphink | nope | 06:32 |
Keybuk | I see | 06:32 |
Keybuk | probably best to start off with some Debian package HOWTOs then | 06:32 |
raphink | it should have it so it get replaced I guess | 06:32 |
raphink | hehe | 06:32 |
shawarma | raphink: Oh, you have a custom postinst in your package? | 06:32 |
raphink | *blush* | 06:32 |
raphink | it's no my package Keybuk I'm fixing it | 06:32 |
raphink | ;) | 06:32 |
raphink | thanks I know what to do now :) | 06:33 |
shawarma | np. :-) | 06:33 |
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Keybuk | lifeless: keeping me waiting, eh? | 06:37 |
thom | Keybuk: he's keeping you keen! | 06:37 |
lifeless | yup | 06:38 |
lifeless | sorry, ELOCAL | 06:38 |
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Keybuk | I'm not familar with that one? | 06:39 |
lifeless | local interruptions | 06:39 |
Keybuk | EINTR | 06:39 |
Keybuk | surely? | 06:39 |
lifeless | maybe, but they are outside my skin, so I dont thinkso | 06:40 |
Keybuk | E2BIG? | 06:40 |
lifeless | could be EPIP | 06:40 |
Keybuk | ("Argument list too long") | 06:40 |
lifeless | *EPIPE | 06:40 |
zul | EWIFE also | 06:40 |
Keybuk | EIEIO | 06:40 |
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Mithrandir | EPIP, the cousin of EBIRD. | 06:42 |
thom | i think EUSERS might be more suitable ;-) | 06:43 |
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Keybuk | well, lifeless kept his word | 07:01 |
Keybuk | he came | 07:01 |
Mithrandir | was it good? | 07:02 |
Mithrandir | (SCNR) | 07:02 |
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pitti | infinity: do you have some minutes? | 07:03 |
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infinity | pitti: Sure, what's up? | 07:05 |
infinity | pitti: You want me in person, or is IRC fine? | 07:05 |
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pitti | infinity: let's talk about it at dinner, or tomorrow; I'd prefer a personal talk | 07:18 |
pitti | infinity: (just to scare you: THE RETURN OF GCC WRAPPERS) MUHAHAHA | 07:18 |
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ivoks | bon apetit guys :) | 07:19 |
pitti | ivoks: merci | 07:19 |
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pitti | infinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GccSsp | 07:21 |
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bddebian | Is requesting syncs of Experimental packages frowned upon? | 08:48 |
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fabbione | bddebian: i suggest to wait 2/3 weeks before asking for syncs | 08:48 |
fabbione | there is all the merge phase | 08:49 |
fabbione | and most of the stuff might come in naturally in main | 08:49 |
bddebian | fabbione: This would be new ... Oh | 08:49 |
fabbione | well new or not new, it makes no difference really | 08:49 |
fabbione | all of sid is processed | 08:49 |
bddebian | Hmm, well gnash would be in Universe I think | 08:49 |
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fabbione | but it's a good idea to get the toolchain the time to stabilize | 08:49 |
wasabi | Hmm. Suse's boot screen is Really Big Res | 08:49 |
bddebian | fabbione: OK, so what could I be 'helping' with currently? :-) | 08:56 |
fabbione | bddebian: hmmmmm | 08:57 |
fabbione | what about relaxing, accumulate some power so as soon as Merge-o-Matic will open, you can help with that? | 08:57 |
bddebian | OK, I'll go back to bugs then :-) | 08:58 |
fabbione | there isn't much we can really do | 08:58 |
fabbione | at elast if you don't want to start to do manual MoM | 08:58 |
bddebian | Well in my experience most of MoM is manual anyway :-) | 09:00 |
fabbione | bddebian: in your experience MoM does a lot of work for you. | 09:00 |
bddebian | Oh crap, I do still have some patches I wanted to send to Debian.. | 09:00 |
fabbione | work that you would be forced to do manually now | 09:00 |
fabbione | anyway.. movie time | 09:00 |
bddebian | Enjoy | 09:00 |
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fabbione | thanks | 09:01 |
t0rtoise_ | + | 09:01 |
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wasabi | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/ <--- missing some things | 09:29 |
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tefera | How do we get a wiki page for our translation team? | 09:35 |
Keybuk | create it | 09:35 |
Keybuk | (go to it, and click "Create this page") | 09:35 |
tefera | ok!!! | 09:36 |
tefera | hmm!! I see that all teams and people have a "wiki" under "details" which makes is possible to create a wiki page but https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-am does not have one. It seems i hav to ask the same question again. | 09:41 |
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Keybuk | edit details | 09:44 |
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mikearthur | are you guys aware of the bug with PPC CDs? | 10:21 |
infinity | "the bug"? | 10:22 |
infinity | That's really pretty unspecific. | 10:22 |
mikearthur | sorry | 10:22 |
mikearthur | finding link | 10:22 |
mikearthur | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121214 | 10:22 |
mikearthur | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185580 | 10:22 |
mikearthur | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187056 | 10:22 |
mikearthur | and I'm having the same problem | 10:23 |
mikearthur | the release media doesn't work at all on a good deal of PPC hardware | 10:23 |
mikearthur | bug was filed prior to Dapper release, and at least one dev knows of the problem, but the ISOs are still sitting there with no warning | 10:23 |
Keybuk | which bug number? | 10:24 |
mikearthur | and, by the sounds of things, PPC cds are getting printed and delivered which, again, won't work on a lot of hardware | 10:24 |
mikearthur | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/34508 | 10:24 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 34508 in linux-source-2.6.15 "2.6.15 kernel fails to boot on ppc machine" [High,Fix released] | 10:24 |
mikearthur | the fix didn't make the CDs | 10:24 |
Keybuk | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperPointReleaseProcess | 10:25 |
infinity | Well, if it's fixed already, it'll be in the next point release. | 10:25 |
infinity | Not much we can do before that. | 10:25 |
mikearthur | yes there is | 10:26 |
mikearthur | you can put a notice next to the ISOs that there are known problems on some hardware, causing them to simply not boot | 10:26 |
mikearthur | and an estimated release date for the point release | 10:26 |
Keybuk | there's known problems on all hardware | 10:26 |
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Keybuk | I believe it's mentioned in the Dapper Release Notes too, though I could be mistaken | 10:27 |
mikearthur | yeh, but this is a lot more severe than most hardware | 10:27 |
infinity | No, it's only more sever because you own it. | 10:27 |
infinity | We have boot failures on other bits of hardware too. The world is less than perfect, unfortunately. | 10:27 |
infinity | s/sever/severe/ | 10:27 |
mikearthur | seems a fair few people complaining in the forums | 10:28 |
mikearthur | and thats not including people who will burn a disc, oh, it doesn't boot, next distro | 10:28 |
mikearthur | I realise the world isn't perfect | 10:28 |
mikearthur | I'm just saying, you might want to make this information a bit more public | 10:28 |
ivoks | as fas as i can see, regular update should fix it :) | 10:29 |
mikearthur | so people don't waste CDs and time | 10:29 |
Keybuk | the net effect is the same though | 10:36 |
mikearthur | Keybuk: the net effect compared to what? | 10:48 |
mikearthur | its not in the release notes on the page | 10:48 |
Keybuk | people won't use that cd on that machine | 10:50 |
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mikearthur | do you want ubuntu to be used more or less? | 10:51 |
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Mithrandir | oh, excellent. | 10:56 |
Mithrandir | my first jprobe written. | 10:56 |
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fabbione | Mithrandir: jprobe? | 11:06 |
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Mithrandir | fabbione: mhm | 11:08 |
Mithrandir | fabbione: writing a small module which logs all file accesses and the time they're done. | 11:08 |
fabbione | Mithrandir: the "j" at the beginning is scary :) | 11:08 |
Mithrandir | fabbione: why? | 11:08 |
fabbione | smells of Java | 11:08 |
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fabbione | rsync: write failed on "/srv/mirrors/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-hppa/Packages.gz": No space left on device (28) | 11:08 |
fabbione | UHMPF | 11:08 |
Mithrandir | nah, it's a kprobe except it's allowed to inspect the function's arguments. | 11:09 |
fabbione | we didn't kill warty from the archive did we? | 11:09 |
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fabbione | since edgy we added already a 10GB delta of data | 11:10 |
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fabbione | good night guys | 11:11 |
Mithrandir | night, fabio. | 11:11 |
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robertj | does anyone here have any background on why teamspeak was chosen? | 11:40 |
Keybuk | yes | 11:41 |
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Keybuk | because it's the only program of its kind that used TCP and showed who was speaking | 11:41 |
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robertj | fair enough | 11:41 |
robertj | does the gaim plugin still work? | 11:41 |
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Keybuk | the whuhwhat? | 11:43 |
robertj | libtbb had a gaim plugin inthere somewhere I thought | 11:43 |
Keybuk | never heard of it | 11:44 |
robertj | it seems to implement the teamspeak protocol | 11:44 |
Keybuk | that seems to be the UDP one | 11:44 |
robertj | oh | 11:45 |
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