[05:20] <fabbione> asw: i do
[03:24] <asw> fabbione - OK.  I have a t2000, 8 cores, 16gb RAM sitting in a box (evaluation unit).  I'm thinking of trying Ubuntu on it.
[03:43] <fabbione> asw: well just do it..
[03:45] <tmarble> today one of the things I'm debating is whether I should use silo to dual boot or grub....
[03:46] <fabbione> did they port grub to sparc?
[03:46] <fabbione> silo is known to work
[03:46] <tmarble> pretty sure we contributed some stuff specifically so it would work on sparc
[03:46] <fabbione> ah
[03:47] <tmarble> don't know if you can do this with silo, but what I want to do with grub is take advantage of "default saved" so that you can select which OS boots next time (without user interaction)
[03:50] <fabbione> no need for that in linux :)
[03:50] <fabbione> echo "$bootoption" > /proc/sys/kernel/reboot-cmd && reboot
[03:51] <fabbione> and you basically echo in there anything that goes after boot
[03:51] <fabbione> boot disk
[03:51] <fabbione> echo "disk"
[03:51] <fabbione> if you want to boot an old linux image
[03:51] <fabbione> echo "LinuxOLD" >..
[03:51] <fabbione> since LinuxOLD is not a device, it will pass it to silo as image
[03:51] <fabbione> and so on...
[03:51] <tmarble> you mean, in the case of T2000, that magic-fu sends commends to OBP?
[03:52] <tmarble> commands
[03:52] <fabbione> if no images matches attempts to pass it as kernel boot option
[03:52] <fabbione> exaclty
[03:52] <tmarble> so, I can say echo "disk1"  > /proc/sys/kernel/reboot-cmd && init 6
[03:52] <fabbione> in linux you can.. yes
[03:52] <tmarble> and that will reboot as if I did {0} ok boot disk1
[03:52] <tmarble> ?
[03:52] <fabbione> yeps
[03:52] <tmarble> wow
[03:53] <fabbione> if diskX is not a device, the default device will be used...
[03:53] <fabbione> passing that as first arg
[03:53] <tmarble> cool beans... trouble is once i'm Solaris... getting back may be tricky (unless silo ALWAYS boots to linux!)
[03:53] <fabbione> in case of lilo the image to boot
[03:53] <fabbione> why do you need solaris anyway ;)
[03:53] <fabbione> anyway i need to take off
[03:53] <fabbione> ttyl
[03:53] <tmarble> ok.. have fun
[03:53] <tmarble> 'cause some of us have to do cross-platform stuff ;-)
[03:53] <fabbione> s/sport car/family car/
[03:54] <fabbione> sucks to be you :P
[03:54] <tmarble> understand that dk charges lot's of $$$ to drive
[04:00] <edneymatias> morning all!
[04:02] <tmarble> edneymatias, como estavo se?
[04:03] <asw> fabbione - yah.  How well does it run for you?  Do you have a contact person at Sun?  So far I've been talking to five people and I'd like to say "I want ot use this evaluation unit to try Ubuntu".
[04:03] <tmarble> asw: umm... I work for Sun ;-)
[04:03] <neuralis> asw: what you want to try makes no difference to the try and buy program
[04:05] <neuralis> fabbione: i requested a server for some testing and ubuntu-server development.. it seems like there's only what, one or two people on the team that have sparcs to work on
[04:07] <asw> tmbarbe - great.  We don't have a lot of staff to try random things.  I was talking to the Sun reps about cost (specifically mentioned I didn't want a node now but here it is.)
[04:09] <edneymatias> tmarble, tranquilo :)
[04:10] <tmarble> edneymatias, sorry that's the limit of my portuguese.. ;-)
[04:11] <asw> neuralis - do you have one yet?
[04:12] <edneymatias> tmable, :) i'm ok ...while you portuguese ...it's equal to my english...huhuh
[04:15] <TrioTorus> hmm, even thought /etc/timezone is set to Europe/Brussels, the date command returns a CDT (Central Daylight Time) used in the states.
[04:15] <TrioTorus> dries@adam:~$ date
[04:15] <TrioTorus> Wed Jun 21 09:14:13 CDT 2006
[04:15] <TrioTorus> dries@adam:~$ cat /etc/timezone
[04:15] <TrioTorus> Europe/Brussels
[04:16] <TrioTorus> Is there something I'm overlooking that influences date setting? I'm on a non gui server.
[04:19] <neuralis> TrioTorus: you're overlooking /etc/localtime
[04:19] <neuralis> TrioTorus: use tzconfig(8)
[04:19] <neuralis> it'll handle the symlink update for you..
[04:21] <TrioTorus> neuralis, just figured. Thanks.
[04:21] <TrioTorus> neuralis, didn't know about tzconfig though
[04:24] <TrioTorus> Think I'll put in the wiki and update the current settime page cause that only handles gui
[04:30] <edneymatias> tmarble, where did you learn that?
[04:31] <tmarble> way, way back when I met some Brazilians at a party...
[04:32] <tmarble> these days I get my coaching from JavaMan: http://www.javaman.com.br/
[04:37] <asw> tmarble - maybe you can drop me a line?  await @ genetics.med.harvard.edu
[04:38] <asw> basically I'd like to get the people that sent me the t2000 talking to the people (at Sun) interested in Ubuntu on Sparc
[05:53] <fabbione> neuralis: untrue... all the team has access to faure.ubuntu.com for porting tasks
[05:54] <fabbione> neuralis: and there will be more machines available soon for heavy debugging
[05:54] <fabbione> neuralis: the one or two are the one that have sparcs at home
[05:54] <fabbione> but usually -server development doesn't need that
[05:55] <fabbione> assuming you are a real sysadm that doesn't local access to the machine
[05:55] <fabbione> doesn't + need
[06:00] <neuralis> fabbione: even better. then i can run some of these applications i want to test and be done with it.
[06:01] <fabbione> now i have a family car and less than 3 weeks to enjoy my sport car :)
[06:03] <jsgotangco> a family is always a good thing
[06:04] <neuralis> jsgotangco: so is a sports car :)
[06:04] <jsgotangco> lol i used to drive 4WD before
[06:08] <spike> what about a free tank? ;)
[06:09] <spike> cant remember where I read that article, maybe linuxjournal, but someone came up with something like ms being a family car, OSX a sport car, and linux a free tank
[06:11] <spike> off, later
[06:24] <erchache> hi
[06:24] <erchache> i have a little farm of servers
[06:24] <erchache> they have 2 nics but i only use 1
[06:24] <erchache> im thinking to use second for backup
[06:25] <erchache> because i think will be fast
[06:25] <erchache> i never use a linux system with 2 nics....
[06:25] <erchache> are transparent to user?
[06:25] <erchache> Can i access to two nic resources on same terminal or need to config special thing?
[09:54] <Dragoonz> hello everyone
[09:55] <Dragoonz> is there  a place i need to go to get kde for ubuntu server?
[09:55] <Dragoonz> i'm having trouble with dselect and apt-get install KDE
[10:01] <lionelp> Dragoonz: this is not a server relative question
[10:02] <lionelp> you should apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <lionelp> this is more a #ubuntu question :)
[10:03] <Dragoonz> kk thank you
[11:14] <chrish01> anyone know how to disable system beep? i only know how to from the gui :(
[11:29] <chrish01> found it ... setterm -blength 0