[12:00] <Jinkguns> fortino@fortino-laptop:~/modified$ "mkdir smaller; for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i" -resize 256x256 smaller/"$i";"
[12:00] <Jinkguns> bash: mkdir smaller; for i in *.jpg; do convert  -resize 256x256 smaller/;: No such file or directory
[12:00] <tanek> mwe: id rather have one, since its working smoother
[12:00] <Jinkguns> I'm getting closer. :D
[12:00] <nickrud> teppic, install the kernel you want specifically, and uninstall linux-<arch> and linux-image-<arch>
[12:00] <caHEk> hi, where can i download Opera browzer for Ubuntu amdx64 kernel?
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> MdSalih: grep
[12:00] <MdSalih> thanks
[12:00] <tanek> mwe: ye, i know, and thats why i asked for help doing that :P
[12:00] <mwe> tanek: ok. what exactly isn't working?
[12:00] <tanek> i dont get 3d support
[12:01] <mwe> tanek: did you dl the fglrx source and try compiling it?
[12:01] <Iam8up> SurfnKid - does xubuntu have a nice gui to where i can add an smb share easily?
[12:01] <Latino> k, in kde you can set a couple of backgrounds and it will switch itself by a determinated time, can gnome do that?
[12:01] <caHEk> hi, where can i download Opera browzer for Ubuntu amdx64 kernel?
[12:01] <SurfnKid> smb?
[12:01] <SurfnKid> oh
[12:01] <SurfnKid> yeah
[12:01] <tanek> mwe: i downloaded it, thats as far as i got
[12:01] <SurfnKid> its just as easy as the gnome style
[12:01] <nickrud> Jinkguns, no beginning or ending quotes ;)
[12:01] <mwe> tanek: what exactly did you download, what package?
[12:02] <Jinkguns> nick
[12:02] <Latino> if it doesn't kde is owning gnome on that
[12:02] <Jinkguns> without the quotes
[12:02] <Jinkguns> I just get a >
[12:02] <Jinkguns> nickrud,
[12:02] <SurfnKid> Iam8up: i definitely dont have any problems on it. but i try not to run too much on it, so its an irc box only. the rest of my stuff is on another ISPline
[12:02] <tanek> fglrx-module-source or somtehing
[12:02] <Slyboots> Well the system doesnte crash, the display just blanks out..
[12:02] <Slyboots> Everything else goes on per normal
[12:02] <mwe> tanek: huh? from ati.com?
[12:02] <shadok`> Hello linxu's g33k
[12:02] <caHEk> on the official site just i386 (
[12:02] <teppic> Is debian "Pin" in /etc/apt/preferences honoured by "Software Updates"?
[12:02] <Iam8up> SurfnKid - gotcha
[12:02] <tanek> mwe: from apt
[12:03] <nickrud> Jinkguns, ah, add done to the end .
[12:03] <mwe> tanek: I don't know about that. I got it of ati.com and used that
[12:03] <caHEk> www.opera.com
[12:03] <Jinkguns> excellent
[12:03] <nickrud> Jinkguns, I saw the quotes, and quit.
[12:03] <tanek> i can get that to then mwe
[12:04] <caHEk> on the www.opera.com just i386 kernel
[12:04] <zenit> caHEk: I guess you might have to set up a chroot then
[12:04] <caHEk> where can i download Opera browzer for Ubuntu amdx64 kernel?
[12:04] <nickrud> teppic, yes
[12:04] <mwe> tanek: at least that's what I did. get the driver installer
[12:04] <teppic> nickrud: Thanks.
[12:04] <nickrud> teppic, works just the same
[12:04] <teppic> nickrud: kernel -25 is killing me, and I keep getting caught out with software updates :-)
[12:05] <Jinkguns> I love you guys.
[12:05] <caHEk> then i try to innstall - system say yor system iz not supported
[12:05] <DrKevorkian> i'm having problems getting firefox to produce audio
[12:05] <Jinkguns> Now, why the hell dosen't someone write a damn GUI for that?!?!
[12:05] <teppic> nickrud: Get a stable system going, "la de da - software updates" - Oh holy smurf!
[12:05] <tanek> mwe: i got that one, but no kernel module
[12:05] <smahoney> Hi all - anyone got any experiences with nVidia freezes when renderaccel is set to true?
[12:05] <_Spire_> Jinkguns: gui for what?
[12:05] <SurfnKid> excuse my lack of complete understanding (otherwise called ignorance) but how is a kernel built, and compiled with so many drivers, devices, control modules, chipsets etc
[12:05] <nickrud> teppic, iirc having either linux-image-<arch> or linux-<arch> is what pulls in the new kernels, with out those no new kernels
[12:05] <mwe> tanek: the package will compile one when you run it
[12:06] <woodwizzle> argh... i've never had so much trouble with video drivers before. I'm almost to tears! =) Damn you ATI!!!
[12:06] <Api984> hello
[12:06] <caHEk> ok thx
[12:06] <tanek> mwe: how come it doesnt work then?
[12:06] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: Breezy or Dapper
[12:06] <_Spire_> woodwizzle: ati drivers do suck.
[12:06] <Api984> i got a video problem with xine
[12:06] <teppic> nickrud: Without those in pref?  Surely you need to exclude them using prefs rather than include them?
[12:06] <mwe> tanek: chmod +x <very long name>.run && sudo ./<very long name>.run
[12:06] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: Dapper
[12:06] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: oh yes, good luck
[12:06] <mwe> tanek: that worked for me
[12:06] <nickrud> teppic, uninstall those packages
[12:06] <tanek> done that
[12:06] <Jinkguns> _Spire_, using imagemagick to convert many files to a smaller size.
[12:06] <woodwizzle> I can't get ATI, Radeon, or FGLRX to work at all
[12:06] <tanek> and aticonfig
[12:07] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: On breezy now, installed in a Zap... Dapper took too much time, and didnt get anywhere
[12:07] <Api984> hello again
[12:07] <Api984> i got a XINE problem
[12:07] <mwe> tanek: what happened?
[12:07] <teppic> nickrud: It wasn't an option.  It's a problem with the initupdate script.  There's bug reports all over the place for it.
[12:07] <someluser> can anyone tell me how to get a dual-head set up with different resolutions on an nvidia GPU?
[12:07] <tanek> it installed, mwe
[12:07] <Api984> video doesnt work like it should..
[12:07] <nickrud> teppic, ah, overriding apt. evil
[12:07] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: Yeah, i had 3D accelleration and everything fine on breezy. Now I'm fighting just to get X to start
[12:07] <Api984> PM me if you can help me on XINE
[12:08] <mwe> tanek: didn't it give you an option of creating a .deb?
[12:08] <teppic> nickrud: Uninstall wasn't clean.  Hence clean box again.  Luckily, I had over only just upped from 5.10 to dapper, it was a clean(ish) box to start from.
[12:08] <mwe> tanek: or what did it install if not?
[12:08] <mwe> tanek: modprobe -l|grep fglrx is the module there?
[12:08] <tanek> i just ran the package
[12:08] <mwe> yes.
[12:08] <darich> arrrgh fglrx
[12:08] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: ouch, you can always set it to vesa
[12:08] <darich> hate it
[12:09] <Slyboots> Anyone here used Xmame with the Dapper drake release?
[12:09] <darich> latest version on Dapper doesn't work properly at all
[12:09] <jbirdAngel> easy and quick way to convert mp3 to ogg? and is it legal to download an mp3 conver to ogg and then listen to it?
[12:09] <tanek> not there
[12:09] <jbirdAngel> and hello
[12:09] <mwe> tanek: it didn't prompt you or anything?
[12:09] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: Thats what it is set to now, but Vesa doesn't support widescreen resolutions it seems :(
[12:09] <tanek> no
[12:09] <Api984> XINE can't see my installed codecs
[12:09] <gan|y|med> hello
[12:09] <sryan> How would one change the name of their local machine?
[12:09] <woodwizzle> This is on a laptop btw. I'd just go buy an nvidia card if this were a desktop =)
[12:09] <Api984> can anyone help on this matter
[12:09] <darich> I have the same problem woodwizzle
[12:09] <erUSUL> jbirdAngel: sound-converter (conversion between two loosy formats is a bad idea though)
[12:10] <DrKevorkian> Can anyone help me with this? I've got everything to work in firefox except that it won't produce any audio for anything. I'm not really having audio problems anywhere else
[12:10] <mwe> tanek: I'd get the rpm and run alien on it to create a .deb then. after that run the install scripts manually. I did that once as well
[12:10] <IsDis4Me> hello
[12:10] <teppic> sryan: /etc/hostname
[12:10] <sryan> that's all I have to edit, teppic ?
[12:10] <teppic> sryan: I possibly tell a lie, that's Gentoo.
[12:10] <someluser> can anyone tell me how to get a dual-head set up with different resolutions on an nvidia GPU?
[12:10] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: mmm my original clean setup had vesa, and was a wide screen laptop, no gaps or any space top or bottom. was nice. but GL was still dead, until i installed the ATI drivers and it came up fine
[12:10] <Api984> can someone help me a little bit
[12:10] <woodwizzle> The worst part of it is if I would have waited a couple months to buy this laptop the new model comes with an Nvidia chip instead
[12:10] <SurfnKid> :P
[12:10] <tanek> mwe: sounds kinda hard
[12:10] <gan|y|med> where can i find streaming information (audio/video streams)? are there servers or sth. or can i scan so that i don't have to find all the streams myself via google?
[12:10] <IsDis4Me> how is it going?
[12:10] <nickrud> sryan, /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[12:11] <sryan> ah thanks.
[12:11] <theeil> how do i get both my laptop monitor and generic plug in monitor working at the same time on my (dell inspiron) laptop?
[12:11] <mwe> tanek: it's not.
[12:11] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: really? I just added my resolution to xorg.conf but vesa seems to ignore it
[12:11] <tanek> mwe: thing is i got a .run not rpm
[12:11] <teppic> someluser: Break it out of the nvidia propreity, use the nv driver instead, enable Xinerama, and assign a different top res to each screen.  Don't forget to use screen 0 and screen 1 to define the different device configurations.
[12:11] <mwe> tanek: get the xorg 6.8 rpm and sudo alien file.rpm. install alien first if you don't have it
[12:12] <mwe> tanek: then sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:12] <someluser> teppic, i need gl on those screens, also is there a guide for xinerama you can point me to?
[12:12] <teppic> someluser: If you need gl, you're screwed.
[12:13] <someluser> teppic: that sucks
[12:13] <teppic> someluser: As soon as you stop using the propreitry you'll need to lose DRI, and as such, you'll end up losing GL.
[12:13] <someluser> teppic: is there no way to do it with twinview?
[12:13] <teppic> someluser: not with differing resolutions.
[12:14] <someluser> teppic; darn
[12:14] <teppic> someluser: Twinview simply displays as a unified desktop.
[12:14] <teppic> someluser: It uses a Xinerama "emulation" if you will.
[12:14] <DShepherd> can totem play flash files?
[12:14] <teppic> someluser: Do you need dual mon & xinerama at the same time?
[12:14] <teppic> sorry, dual mon & gl?
[12:14] <someluser> teppic: could I run two seperate x sessions and link them?
[12:15] <teppic> messily.
[12:15] <teppic> what's your intention?
[12:15] <Lohn> Hello all! How to configure network by console? There is such tool like network-admin???
[12:15] <Blissex> Lohn: 'man ifup' and 'man interfaces'
[12:15] <OneSeventeen> how do I skip 25GB of data when using dd?  perhaps dd if=/dev/sda2 skip=25G
[12:15] <someluser> to run a presentation app that runs on two screens
[12:15] <mwe> tanek: download the rpm and convert and install it. then go to /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod and sudo sh make.sh. then cd .. and sudo sh make_install.sh and the module should be installed
[12:15] <teppic> Lohn: ifconfig
[12:15] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: something like that.
[12:16] <Lohn> Blissex, teppic This way isn't so friendly... there is really no tool like redhat netcardconfig?
[12:16] <vanberge> would anybody be willing to take a stab at helping me get RSS feeds to download in thunderbird?  Something is wrong for sure
[12:16] <ktogias> LVM on Dapper: I run 'pvcreate /dev/hda3'. It says that the physical volume is succesfully created. Then I run 'vgcreate data /dev/hda3' and I get 'No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3, /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume' and it fails. What am I doing wrong??
[12:16] <someluser> teppic: i need to run a presentation program in wine and it runs on two screens
[12:17] <Blissex> Lohn: yes, there is one, something like 'netconfig'
[12:17] <tanek> mwe: ok
[12:17] <mwe> tanek: it's not that hard
[12:17] <tanek> mwe: ill try, thx
[12:17] <teppic> someluser: I'm curious since you don't get gl in windows on two screens...
[12:18] <someluser> teppic: really? i didn't notice
[12:18] <OneSeventeen> Blissex I used dd if=/dev/sda2 | split -b 1024m and I have 25 complete files and 1 semi-complete file, so could I just do the same but skip=25G?  (I want to be sure I'm exact, since I'm splitting binary data)
[12:18] <[Wiebel] > hi
[12:18] <OneSeventeen> Or is there a way to do a comparison of the first MB of two files, to see if they start the same?
[12:18] <[Wiebel] > how can i mount a .bin/.cue file?
[12:18] <teppic> someluser: limitation of the windowing mech.  it's resolved in Vista, but still knackered in XP.  If you want dual-head gl, you'll need a commercial x server.
[12:19] <someluser> teppic: it uses directx for transition effects, maybe it'll run withought gl...
[12:19] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : convert them to an iso file
[12:19] <teppic> wine uses dx -> gl.
[12:19] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: both... Check carefully in 'man dd' what the various size suffixes mean. For example skip=25000m and 25G
[12:19] <teppic> Still confused as to why it needs the two outputs.
[12:19] <someluser> that's what i thought
[12:19] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: you can also use 'cmp' or another binary comparators.
[12:19] <[Wiebel] > eternale1: how?
[12:20] <Weirdbro> Has anyone noticed large dropdown menu's messing up?
[12:20] <mnk> rasult: hi
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: in what?
[12:20] <teppic> Is the second output a clone of the first (different game...) or is it a seperate screen?
[12:20] <someluser> teppic; it needs two outputs because the projector is one head and the controls for the presentation app are on the main screen
[12:20] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen: extract with dd the 2 MB of each file to two tmp files then use md5sum or sh1sum
[12:20] <DaveyJ> hell
[12:20] <DaveyJ> o
[12:20] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Everywhere. The widget seems to be scrolled down way too far
[12:20] <rasult> mnk, hello
[12:21] <DaveyJ> quick question.. i'm about to format my old windows drive to ext3... however its the drive with the boot info on it
[12:21] <mnk> rasult: how's ur experience with ubuntu? u like? :)
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: no i havent but is it in ff? or desktop?
[12:21] <DaveyJ> when i format it, is it going to kill the bootsector?
[12:21] <OneSeventeen> Blissex/erUSUL thanks, that helps a ton!
[12:21] <teppic> someluser: In which case, you may be in luck.  You may be able to do it with the proprietry driver and xinerama.  I *think* you may lose DRI but retain gl through the second head.
[12:21] <vanberge> god dangit!  even when i add a new rss subsription to thunderbird, it just sits there and says "verifying feed"... it wont actually get anywhere
[12:21] <someluser> teppic: that's good
[12:21] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak-Open gedit, preferences, syntax highlighting, highlight mode
[12:22] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - great question... I'm considering doing the same... my guess is make a grub boot floppy foir a start
[12:22] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: however, usually explain what you are trying to achieve, not just ask questions on the details of how you think it should be done...
[12:22] <someluser> teppic: got a guide?
[12:22] <teppic> someluser: To give you context, I've managed to do it with a SIS 6326, nVidia GeForce 2MX and ATI@Work card before now.
[12:22] <rasult> hi every1, i'm a newby, just installed ubuntu today!!!
[12:22] <mnk> rasult: congratulaions :)
[12:22] <DaveyJ> CurtisB, how do i go about doing that?
[12:22] <Weirdbro> rasult: Good job
[12:22] <teppic> someluser: I wish.  Google for some of the slightly older xinerama/nvidia tutorials, pre-twinview.  They should detail it.
[12:22] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - hang-on, I'll see if I can figure it out
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: ah ok
[12:22] <dooglus> vanberge: thunderbird isn't really really for primetime as far as I can tell.
[12:22] <CurtisB> !bootdisk
[12:22] <someluser> teppic: thanks a lot, you rock
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootdisk
[12:23] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen: no problem
[12:23] <teppic> someluser: Some of the generic ones should help as well.  You effectively treat it with two device entries.
[12:23] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- see what I mean? It is also happening in gaim beta 3, so it isn't just gedit
[12:23] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: good point, I complain about users doing that all the time yet here I am =P
[12:23] <XHK> Does ubuntu have some sort of firewall too or something that could block ports. aMule says I have lowid, but in windows I have highid with the same port.
[12:23] <rasult> i feel like a traitor to windows!!!...But I'm sure I'll get over it!
[12:23] <dooglus> XHK: it does, but it's disabled by default
[12:23] <teppic> someluser: set one as screen 0 and the other as screen 1.  Once you've got that going, if you're *lucky* you'll be able to keep gl on the primary screen).
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: i cant gnome is not installable on this pc
[12:23] <dooglus> rasult: don't feel any allegance to Microsoft - they feel none to you
[12:24] <someluser> teppic: sweet, you got another IM screen that I can reach you at?
[12:24] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- And in gaim beta 3, the menu is short. No reason be be scrolled down
[12:24] <vanberge> dooglus: well, yesterday this function worked fine.
[12:24] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Gnome not installable?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: nope no gnome for a while :(
[12:24] <pequatre> hi. can anyone help me with cups ? i'm almost done configuring my printer but i get an error message: "Warning: LPP_Init() failed! Waiting 2 seconds..." in the terminal
[12:24] <dooglus> vanberge: hmmm.  could it be that the feed is down?
[12:24] <eigenlambda> Weirdbro: i bet thats 'cause gnomefreak is running on windows
[12:24] <XHK> dooglus, Do you have any idea what more could block ports?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> eigenlambda: nope
[12:25] <eigenlambda> freebsd?
[12:25] <kaur> hi! I need help. For some strange reason, my system is unable to authenticate any updates. There are no keys in software properties-->authentication. What to do?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> im running on a broken edgy
[12:25] <dooglus> XHK: your router?  you set up port forwarding to your Windows IP and ubuntu is using a different internal IP?
[12:25] <Weirdbro> eigenlamda: I'm running ubuntu on windows vmware, so meh. He could if he wanted to
[12:25] <vanberge> dooglus: neg.  it is slashdot
[12:25] <dooglus> XHK: run "ifconfig" to see your internal IP
[12:25] <Jinkguns> thanks
[12:25] <XHK> dooglus, hmn ok
[12:25] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - do you have a live CD?  Looks like you can wipe WinBlows, boot from the live CD, then do: sudo grub-install /dev/hdX (where X is the device node of the disk to put grub on....)
[12:25] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Why on earth would you try edgy out this early?
[12:25] <nickrud> kaur, !easysources has instructions for getting & installing repo signing keys, see next
[12:26] <nickrud> !easysources
[12:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources
[12:26] <nickrud> !easysource
[12:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: can you install ubuntu-desktop on edgy yet?
[12:26] <DaveyJ> =/ i'm not really into experimenting lol
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: i test
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus: no
[12:26] <nickrud> no insults?!
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus: no edubuntu no ubuntu no gnome
[12:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: me either
[12:26] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Ah.
[12:26] <DaveyJ> i'm running ubuntu off a partition on the same drive as the windows partition
[12:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: xubuntu-desktop is ok though, right?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> those were the 3 i tried
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus: yep
[12:26] <DaveyJ> i'm trying to make the windows partition ext3 so i can use it for storage with ubuntu
[12:26] <DaveyJ> eek i gotta go to class
[12:26] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - I'm looking at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200374&highlight=boot+disk
[12:27] <gnomefreak> i have e17 built from cvs i have xfce kde and gnustep
[12:27] <gnomefreak> those are fine as of right now
[12:27] <CurtisB> okay c ya! good luck
[12:27] <DaveyJ> www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D35087%26page%3D2+backup+grub+bootloader&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4
[12:27] <DaveyJ> theres another one that might be of use
[12:27] <DaveyJ> :) i'll check when i get back
[12:27] <DaveyJ> peace
[12:27] <erUSUL> DaveyJ: it is easy mkfs.ext3 -O dir_index /dev/hdxx (where hdxx is the win partition)
[12:27] <tuxx> Evening. What kernel is used in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:27] <dooglus> is it possible to use the freenx client as a gdm session instead of gnome, xfce, or KDE?
[12:27] <robert_> how do I ensure ipv4 is forwarded through my ubuntu server?
[12:28] <erUSUL> tuxx: 2.6.15
[12:28] <OneSeventeen> does using the "skip" feature in dd take a while if I'm skip over a GB of data?
[12:28] <dibblego> how do I turn off the system beep when auto-completing at the bash command line?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> dooglus: are you on 2.6.15? and ubuntu-desktop isnt installable?
[12:28] <tanek>  mwe, getting error kernel includes at /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1-tanek/build/include not found or incomplete when doing sh make
[12:28] <erUSUL> tuxx: 2.6.15 modified by the ubuntu kernel manteiner (Ben Collins iirc)
[12:28] <tuxx> erUSUL thanks. I'd hoped for .17
[12:29] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: iirc ben is the kernel master ;)
[12:29] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I'm running 2.6.16-2 at the moment, but the kernel you're running has no impact on which packages are installable.
[12:29] <kaur> nickrud: what do u mean by "!easysources"?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i would think it would if it was messed up im not on 2.6.15
[12:30] <XHK> dooglus, actually I dont have router. Anyway, where can I see if there's ubuntu firewall enabled and foward ports?
[12:30] <nickrud> kaur, see the stuff kicked out when you type !easysource (no s) in the channel. It's a well educated bot
[12:30] <dooglus> XHK: "iptables -L" will list the firewall rules.
[12:30] <nickrud> !easysource
[12:30] <rpedro> !easysource
[12:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:30] <Lohn> Blissex, i cant found netconfig or anything like it
[12:30] <kaur> !easysources
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources
[12:30] <erUSUL> dooglus: i run 2.6.16.19 tried 2.6.17 but the ralink driver dose not compile anymore against 2.6.17 so i'm stuck in the stone age XD
[12:30] <dooglus> XHK: that's "sudo iptables -L"
[12:30] <kaur> !easysource
[12:30] <OneSeventeen> I am doing the following: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 skip=25GB | split -b 1024m" and it doesn't seem to be doing anything... does it just take a while to skip?
[12:30] <XHK> dooglus, ok thx for help
[12:31] <Blissex> Lohn: I'll have a look, I uised it a long time ago.
[12:31] <nickrud> kaur, and you can open a message window with ubotu (it's listed in the user list) and ask a lot there
[12:31] <Lohn> Blissex, thanks!
[12:31] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: it does take a long time, it reads the whole 25G
[12:31] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: check 'vmstat 1' the 'bi' column to see it reading...
[12:31] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I wouldn't think it would take any time at all to 'skip'
[12:31] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: eew... that's the whole reason I didn't want to do that, but then again, I guess it needs to if it wants to be accurate
[12:32] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: disk partitions are 'random access'
[12:32] <CurtisB>  <-- Still banging my head against the wall trying to get ALSA snd-mia to work with my Echo Mia under dapper -- it worked okay in 5.10... help please!
[12:32] <trappist> is there a metapackage that depends on apache2, php5, openssl, etc. for setting up a secure php5 webserver?
[12:32] <Flippy209> hey ic56 I got mp3's playing :)
[12:32] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: 'dd' is designed to work with things like tapes which cannot be randomly positioned.
[12:32] <ic56> Flippy209: congrats!
[12:32] <_NicK> mas o endereo q vou usar estah na forma ssh.nome.ufpe.br
[12:32] <Flippy209> and world of warcraft :)
[12:32] <nickrud> !br
[12:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:33] <ic56> Flippy209: oh oh!  You won't be getting much work done... :-)
[12:33] <Zambezi> Anyone using Spamassassin?
[12:33] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I've tried it, and it does take a long time...  I guess skipping isn't a smart as I thought it would be.
[12:34] <dooglus> Zambezi: I am
[12:34] <Zambezi> dooglus, May I ask you some questions about it i pm?
[12:34] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: bi is on average around 50,000 is that average for something like dd skipping
[12:34] <Flippy209> ic56, i know lol
[12:34] <dooglus> Zambezi: do you know about #spamassassin?
[12:34] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: thats 50MB/s, that is DD reading like crazy...
[12:34] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: there are different versions of 'dd' that actually seek instead of skipping.
[12:35] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: yeah, but I bet it is still faster than saving to my USB hard drive... it takes forever to save 40GB of data to a USB HDD!
[12:35] <Zambezi> dooglus, I haven't installed it yet. I'm just curious. Could I configure it without X?
[12:35] <gavagai> Zambezi, yes
[12:36] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: seek is an option, but it looks like on my version that just skips those blocks at output instead of input, which seems like it would take the same amount of time
[12:36] <Blissex> Lohn: wait a bit more...
[12:36] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: there is seeking in input too, in some version.
[12:36] <nickrud> Lohn, I'm not a networking expert, but if the question is simple enough ...
[12:37] <Zambezi> gavagai, Thanks. That's wounderful news. Do you know if it's possible to make own rules and erase emails from the server even before I download them? I hate emails about Casino, 888, Las vegas etc. No friend mails my about that. ;-)
[12:37] <OneSeventeen> once again, thanks Blissex and dooglus, dd is a pretty awsome tool, not to mention the pipe and split commands!
[12:37] <DShepherd> how do I bind my windows key in gnome?
[12:38] <nickrud> DShepherd, you have to use the gconf-editor
[12:38] <mindspit> where is the log file of ISPCONFIG? where is the vhosts file of ISPCONFIG?
[12:38] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok
[12:38] <DShepherd> nickrud: thanks
[12:38] <nickrud> DShepherd, wierd, but true. I use super for all bindings, and the keyboard shortcuts pref is useless
[12:38] <gavagai> Zambezi, i have only ever used spamassasin ON a server
[12:39] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: be careful with the skip=40GB - it doesn't skip 40GB, it skips 40GB times the input block size...
[12:39] <Zambezi> mindspit, So it's possible to use hotkey command with windowskey and another to lock the computer? I love that in Windows XP.
[12:39] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I'm not sure what the default input block size is, but it's not 1.
[12:39] <DShepherd> nickrud: yup. what exactly am I looking for in the gconf-editor
[12:39] <DShepherd> ?
[12:39] <nickrud> DShepherd, depends. What are you trying to set?
[12:39] <gavagai> but yes, spamassasin can delete spam, but you shouldn't do that probably
[12:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: the Windows Key or super key
[12:40] <OneSeventeen> dooglus so should I just restart from the beginning I guess?
[12:40] <gavagai> to do that kind of stuff you also use procmail
[12:40] <Zambezi> gavagai, I'll just use it on a server. I'm trying to do install applications on the server so I don't need X.
[12:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: gnome doesnt seem to see it
[12:40] <nickrud> DShepherd, by itself, or in combination with another key to accomplish something
[12:40] <nickrud> DShepherd, ah, not seeing it. May be another issue
[12:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: hmm ok.
[12:41] <DShepherd> nickrud: what issue could that be?
[12:41] <rackerz> My friend has a Speedtouch 330 modem and has the driver disk, can he use ndiswrapper to install them?
[12:41] <gavagai> Zambezi, you will use spamassasin and procmail then
[12:41] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: it looks like you're skipping 512 times more than you thought you were...
[12:42] <rackerz> My friend has a Speedtouch 330 modem and has the driver disk, can he use ndiswrapper to install them?
[12:42] <nickrud> DShepherd, I only know that one or two people have passed thru here with the super key not being recognized at all. Me, for example, has metacity binding <Super>t to opening a 100x50 terminal
[12:42] <Zambezi> gavagai, I know that's risky. That's why I would like to make own "erase-rules". Mails including Viagra, Cialis, pharmacy will be deleted at once and emails including 888, Las Vegas, gamble will also be erased. And the mails got to contain that three words.
[12:42] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: specify "ibs=1 obs=1" to set the block sizes to 1 byte; they default to 512 bytes
[12:42] <sorush20> hi guys I keep getting the message during loading of kernel that time out hda waiting for dma
[12:42] <sorush20>  what can I do to fix this/
[12:42] <Lohn> Blissex, nickrud Thanks for your help. But I have to go now...
[12:42] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: note that 'skip' and 'seek' operate in terms of the block sizes, as <dooglus> hints
[12:42] <sharms> sorush20 - usually when that happens for me, it means the harddrive is bad, or the cable
[12:42] <Zambezi> gavagai, I got another tip of application. Two seconds.
[12:42] <erUSUL> rackerz: www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[12:43] <rackerz> He can't access the internet
[12:43] <nickrud> Lohn, /etc/network/interfaces is the file to edit in the console. man interfaces for all the details
[12:43] <jrib> DShepherd: try running xmodmap and seeing what corresponds to super, myself, I use <mod4>
[12:43] <rackerz> erUSUL he can't access the internet
[12:43] <Zambezi> gavagai, Spamassassin and Fetchmail was the tip I got.
[12:43] <mcrandello> anyone try the new ati drivers?
[12:43] <Api984> where can i get Xvid and Divx codecs for XIne
[12:43] <DShepherd> jrib: ok
[12:43] <Api984> ubuntu doesnt have them in libxine
[12:43] <Blissex> Lohn: base-config-network-console might help
[12:43] <DShepherd> jrib: it is the same.. <mod4>
[12:44] <OneSeventeen> Blissex and dooglus: I basically deleted my original files and am starting over again, this time with 52GB of space to store 40GB, so hopefully this should work...  (bi is around 20000, which isn't too bad... maybe I'll get paid overtime for sitting and watching it!)
[12:44] <gavagai> Zambezi, fetchmail is something else entirely and runs on the client not the server
[12:44] <mcrandello> well the new packaged fglrx drivers anyway
[12:44] <ron_o> anyone know what this means from var/log/kern.log  snd-opl3sa2-pnpbios: probe of 01:01.00 failed with error -2
[12:44] <gavagai> fetchmail just fetches your mail
[12:44] <ron_o> PnP manual resources are invalid, using auto config
[12:44] <jrib> DShepherd: try using that in your gconf
[12:44] <gavagai> spamassasin marks the spam, procmail sorts the mail
[12:44] <DShepherd> jrib: <mod4>?
[12:44] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: what are you trying to do in higher level terms?
[12:45] <DShepherd> jrib: ok
[12:45] <jrib> DShepherd: <mod4>t  <-- for example
[12:45] <DShepherd> jrib: kool
[12:45] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I'm not sure why you're wanting to 'skip' anything at all.
[12:45] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: backup an entire partition that I cannot mount.
[12:45] <kaur> hi, i'm trying to import authentication keys (all got lost somehow) with gpg keys and it says "import failed". Ideas?
[12:45] <erUSUL> rackerz: it's a problem... she needs to download the firmware and a few tools to make it run.
[12:45] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: in the middle of the previous command (after it copied over 25GB) I ran out of HDD space on my USB drive, so I cleared old stuff out/emptied the trash, and wanted to pick up where I left off
[12:45] <vanberge> this is a dumb and specific question - in thunderbird, when i hit 'reply'... it automatically puts the quoted message on top of my cursor?  can i change that so that the quoted message is below???
[12:45] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: good, and why do you need to skip 25G of it?
[12:46] <ktogias> LVM on Dapper: I run 'pvcreate /dev/hda3'. It says that the physical volume is succesfully created. Then I run 'vgcreate data /dev/hda3' and I get 'No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3, /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume' and it fails. What am I doing wrong??
[12:46] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: oh, it's probably best to start from scratch.  better safe than sorry.
[12:46] <Blissex> vanberge: thats criminal intent, and you should be locked up :-)
[12:46] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: especially when nobody can agree what 1GB means...
[12:46] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: (I found the dd command after asking how to make the backup, and I want to pick up where I left off after I ran out of HDD space on my USB drive the first time I did this)
[12:46] <erUSUL> vanberge: top posting is evil XD
[12:46] <Zambezi> gavagai, I don't know the purpose with procmail. I use Thunderbird as mailclient. What do procmail do?
[12:46] <nickrud> vanberge, don't bottom posting is good
[12:46] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: dd says 1GB is 1024x1024x1024, which is what nautilus says it is also, but once again, better safe than sorry!
[12:47] <kaur> hi, i'm trying to import authentication keys (all got lost somehow) with gpg keys and it says "import failed". Ideas?
[12:47] <nickrud> vanberge, in fact, cutting and writing into the quoted text is best
[12:47] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: ahhhhhh, but thats friggingly dangerous. How do you know wxactly it is 25GB?
[12:47] <vanberge> nickrud: if you get an email, you like to have to scroll all the way to the bottom of a chain of messages in order to read the latest message?
[12:47] <DShepherd> jrib: doesnt work
[12:47] <OneSeventeen> It isn't taking too horribly long, I'm already past 7GB out of the 40
[12:47] <gavagai> Zambezi, procmail can send the spam to a certain location, the good mail to another.  i don't know, maybe thunderbird can do that itself
[12:47] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: it's hard to check with these binary files you're making, and a single byte error will render your backups worthless
[12:47] <_sp1d3r_> ubotu what's difference between deb and deb-src in sources.list?
[12:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about what's difference between deb and deb-src in sources.list?
[12:47] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: not a good idea I say. In part because 25GB is a bit ambuguous.
[12:47] <dooglus> _sp1d3r_: deb is for binaries, deb-src is for sources
[12:47] <nickrud> vanberge, isn't that how time works? anyway, it's a topic for off-topic ;)
[12:47] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: yup, I'm starting from scratch instead of being lazy :D
[12:48] <protocol2> where id the default java folder located in ubuntu?
[12:48] <protocol2> is*
[12:48] <erUSUL> _sp1d3r_: i'm not ubotu but deb are binary (compiled) and deb-src is the source code to compile in your machine
[12:48] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: if you have a fast CPU pass the thing thru 'bzip2', makes it smaller and checksums it.
[12:48] <OneSeventeen> Blissex,dooglus: hopefully this precaution won't even be neccessary, as I'm just doing this so I can remove an old windows partition I don't use anymore... but better safe than sorry
[12:48] <kaur> hi, i'm trying to import authentication keys (all got lost somehow) with gpg keys and it says "import failed". Ideas?
[12:48] <nickrud> vanberge, on your question, I don't use thunderbird
[12:48] <jrib> DShepherd: k, don't know then
[12:48] <nickrud> kaur, did you look at that ubuntu-nl.org page?
[12:49] <kaur> nickrud: yes
[12:49] <Zambezi> gavagai, So Procmail is like a proxy? It's a "forwarder"?
[12:49] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: if the CPU not fast, 'gzip -2', if slow 'lzop'
[12:49] <DShepherd> jrib: kool. thanks anyways
[12:49] <protocol2> where is the default java folder located in ubuntu?
[12:49] <vanberge> nickrud: thx.  but geez this is frustrating
[12:49] <nickrud> kaur, hm. Could you paste the complete error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[12:49] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: it's a pentium 4 less than a year old, but my 2 year old AMD crunches numbers faster...  odds are, the gzip or bzip2 would run faster than the USB interface to the external HDD anyway
[12:49] <protocol2> after installation that is
[12:50] <kaur> nickrud: K
[12:50] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: ironically, if I used gzip, it might even shorten the time, since the bottleneck is not the CPU
[12:50] <Zambezi> gavagai, But I don't think that's necassary. I erase the emails thats are spam with 100% chance. The other emails erase Thunderbirds own filter.
[12:50] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I don't think you can get split to compress each part, so you would probably have to "dd | gzip | split"
[12:50] <jojoman02> anyone know of a good linux gui calendar program?
[12:50] <xpc> !hu
[12:50] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[12:51] <_sp1d3r_> To update my list in sources.list I have to go on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, generate list and past it in my sources.list file?
[12:51] <dooglus> jojoman02: evolution ?
[12:51] <nickrud> vanberge, most people intersperce their comments into the preceeding messages, cutting stuff that does not apply. http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html , section 5 has some rationale
[12:51] <xpc> mizu
[12:51] <xpc> ?
[12:51] <jojoman02> dooglus: just calendar
[12:51] <valehru> ok..so gplflash isnt doing the business for me on dapper x64....any other suggestions?
[12:51] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: thats what I was thinking, but if it runs a checksum, would that still work?
[12:51] <xpc> hm
[12:51] <Blissex> jojoman02: there are very many...
[12:51] <protocol2> where is the default java folder located in ubuntu?
[12:52] <Flippy209> is .bash_profile sort of the same thing as .profile in HP-UX?
[12:52] <valehru> protocol2, sudo locate java
[12:52] <hyphenated> vanberge: Edit -> Account Settings -> your account -> Composition and Addressing lets you choose whether your cursor starts above or below the quoted reply
[12:52] <moonlite> Flippy209: what is .profile in HP-UX?
[12:52] <jdmpike> The internet is telling me to go to bed...
[12:52] <Flippy209> .profile
[12:52] <Flippy209> holds aliases
[12:52] <Zambezi> I think somethings wrong with my monitor or graficcard. The screen change colour. From bright to a brigth with a touch of red. :-( And that error occured in Windows too.
[12:52] <_sp1d3r_> what's correct procedure to update sources.list?
[12:53] <moonlite> Flippy209: only?
[12:53] <jojoman02> Blissex, well a search in google when i searched didn't come up with anything, except command like remind programs
[12:53] <Blissex> Zambezi: bad news, looks like your monitor is going...
[12:53] <kaur> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138
[12:53] <Flippy209> and other stuff, like startup messages, welcome messages, paths.. etc
[12:53] <vanberge> hyphenated: thanks so much dude
[12:53] <vanberge> god dangit thank you
[12:53] <moonlite> Flippy209: then yes
[12:53] <Flippy209> kk
[12:53] <tombs> hi all
[12:53] <Flippy209> thanks
[12:53] <nickrud> Zambezi, surely sounds like a hardware error. possibly messing with xgamma can at least get you a useable color
[12:53] <Zambezi> Blissex, I got this about 1,5 year ago.
[12:53] <rixxon> _sp1d3r_: how do you mean, update?
[12:53] <Blissex> jojoman02: you need to ask for a calendar or PIM program, and search FreshMeat.net first
[12:53] <vanberge> hyphenated: are you single / want to go out?
[12:53] <moonlite> it's a shell script that are sourced when the shell starts
[12:53] <OneSeventeen> what is the command to clear the screen in the gnome terminal?
[12:54] <Blissex> Zambezi: depends on which monitor etc, there is a lot of stuff going bad quickly...
[12:54] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: 'clear'
[12:54] <rixxon> OneSeventeen: clear
[12:54] <Flippy209> ok so say that I wanted a few things to run on login, I could add them in that .bash_profile?
[12:54] <Zambezi> nickrud, I hate my computer. It's 4,5 year and this is the thrid graficcard.
[12:54] <nickrud> kaur, you have a lib in /usr/local, that sends up fireworks
[12:54] <_sp1d3r_> rixxon if I want to update all link in sources.list what I have to do?
[12:54] <cello_rasp> are there any firefox plugins that use the address bar as a status bar, like safari?
[12:54] <hyphenated> vanberge: heh. have fun
[12:54] <Blissex> Zambezi: but it could just be the VGA cable plugged in a bit loose
[12:54] <moonlite> Flippy209: well, depends on your definition of login
[12:54] <OneSeventeen> Blissex & rixxon: that just scrolls down to make it look clear, I want to actually clear out the whole buffer
[12:54] <theBishop> is there any way i can make ubuntu bring up my network device, but not try to get the IP at boot?
[12:54] <rixxon> _sp1d3r_: sorry, i still don't get ya
[12:54] <Flippy209> I.E. startup xchat and connect to this server
[12:54] <moonlite> logging in to your gnome-desktop or just starting a shell
[12:55] <Flippy209> when I login to my user account which .bash_profile should only be connected to under my path
[12:55] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: I don't think that you can clear the log. Except perhaps by setting it to zero and reexpanding it.
[12:55] <moonlite> nah that wouldnt be appropriate
[12:55] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: or do you mean the BASH history?
[12:55] <theBishop> when i'm out of range of my wireless network, i have to Ctrl+C to stop the network device from booting
[12:55] <kaur> nickrud: what to do?
[12:55] <moonlite> you should ad those to gnome-session instead
[12:55] <Zambezi> Blissex, , I hate my computer. It's 4,5 year and this is the thrid graficcard. / I try to check that. I usual don't lock it cause I've been changing the hardware alot when I migrated to Linux.
[12:55] <nickrud> kaur, god only knows (listening to the beach boys this sec, how appropriate)
[12:56] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: I just don't want to be able to use the scroll bar to scroll up through the past output from the terminal, but I still want to be able to use the up arrow to go through the BASH history...
[12:56] <kaur> nickrud: what di du mean bu "lib"?
[12:56] <kaur> library?
[12:56] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: closing and re-opening the terminal achieved the desired result
[12:56] <spikeb> Flippy209: if you want xchat to fire up and connect here upon login, you dont need .bashrc
[12:56] <dibblego> has anyone seen "no suitable windowing system found, exiting." with OpenOffice? Apparently it's a known problem, but I'm having difficulty determining exactly the problem and the solution (if any?)
[12:57] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: yes, or you can set the log size to zero....
[12:57] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: how would I do that?
[12:57] <JackRazz> Hey everyone, is this the best channel for asking ubuntu install questions??
[12:57] <spikeb> yeah JackRazz
[12:57] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: preferences...
[12:57] <JackRazz> ok spikeb....
[12:57] <nickrud> kaur, a lib is roughly equivalent to a dll ; gpg is getting the wrong lib. the my gpg uses is /lib/libreadline.so.5 . Yours is in /usr/local/lib, which tells me you installed some extra software that is claiming to be the real libreadline
[12:58] <kaur> nickrud: now i remember
[12:58] <Flippy209> spikeb, what would you recommend?
[12:58] <JackRazz> I'm trying to install a dual boot winxp and ubuntu using NT loader instead of grub, but I can't get the bootsect.lin image to boot
[12:58] <kaur> nickrud: i needed to get "r" to work
[12:58] <kaur> nickrud: and so i installed libreadline
[12:58] <JackRazz> i installed grub to a floppy
[12:59] <spikeb> Flippy209: you can use session preferences to have xchat start on login, and set up xchat itself to connect to here when launched
[12:59] <JackRazz> should the floppy been a bootable msdos floppy to begin with
[12:59] <nickrud> kaur, there is probably a way to fix that, making gpg ignore the /usr/local version, but that's over my head
[12:59] <JackRazz> ?
[12:59] <moonlite> Flippy209: whats wrong with gnome session that i told you? :)
[12:59] <kaur> nickrud: if u don't mind i would like to ask u a question about installing from a source
[12:59] <aSkito> hi
[12:59] <moonlite> (as spikeb is telling you now again :P )
[12:59] <nickrud> kaur, I used to do a lot of that, but not so much the last few years. Brain rot and all that.
[01:00] <Flippy209> how do I access either of those options.. I'm sure I can figure out xchat to connect on launch as I've done it with mIRC clients for years
[01:00] <JackRazz> also if I have ubuntu installed on a different partition, is it possible to create a grub boot sector without reinstalling it?
[01:00] <Flippy209> but I'm not sure where to start looking for the gnome session options
[01:00] <moonlite> Flippy209: system => preferences => Sessions
[01:00] <Flippy209> <3 ty
[01:00] <spikeb> Flippy209: system>preferences>sessions, then in that window, the start up applications tab
[01:00] <_sp1d3r_> someone knows how the links are update in sources.list?
[01:00] <spikeb> startup programs, even.
[01:00] <SonicChao> How do I figure out the ESSID of my connection?
[01:00] <spikeb> sorry.
[01:00] <Flippy209> haha so easy to find. :(
[01:01] <nickrud> kaur, look into the environment variable LD_CONFIG , if my mem is not totally broken
[01:01] <InvisiblePinkUni> i want to use exim as MTA, but i find exim and exim4 in synaptic. What should i use?
[01:01] <kaur> nickrud: if i install something from the source, then it is safe to delete the source after the installation. Correct? But how can i uninstall a program which was installed from a source?
[01:01] <SonicChao> sorry
[01:01] <JackRazz> anyone here who know about grup MBR?
[01:01] <nickrud> InvisiblePinkUni, use exim4
[01:01] <SonicChao> but how do i figure out the ESSID of my connection?
[01:02] <kaur> nickrud: since there is no source anymore, "make uninstall" doesn't work? Or does it?
[01:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> nickrud: thank you
[01:02] <nickrud> kaur, a properly written source package has a make target uninstall; sudo make uninstall. Keep your source build around
[01:02] <mattwestm> SonicChao: iwconfig should tell you
[01:02] <JackRazz> ok, I'll go ahead and post a question in the forums.....
[01:02] <moonlite> kaur: you chose a smart --prefix and after that you can just rm -rf the directory
[01:02] <dan> except for the language this seams to be the richt place..
[01:02] <mattwestm> SonicChao: actually, ifconfig should tell you
[01:03] <SonicChao> I cannot connect to the internet
[01:03] <spikeb> a properly written application contains an uninstall script that is installed in its directory, instead of just a source make target.
[01:03] <kaur> nickrud: for what does the "rf" stand for?
[01:03] <dibblego> man rm
[01:03] <SonicChao> That is the problem, I need to know what to put into the ESSID field
[01:03] <SonicChao> mattwestm
[01:03] <nickrud> kaur, moonlite is exactly correct, it's remove forceably and recursively
[01:03] <kaur> ok
[01:06] <vanberge> anybody know if there are plans for an itunes port on linux?
[01:06] <nickrud> spikeb, in the ideal world. Been burned, but I'll start looking for them
[01:06] <Flippy209> ok spikeb and moonlite I'm confused
[01:06] <nickrud> vanberge, sharpmusique (sp?)
[01:06] <mcrandello> the rf stands for "really fast" :P
[01:06] <Flippy209> imagine that :P
[01:07] <nickrud> really fubared
[01:07] <Flippy209> if I do a ls -a from my home I see .xchat2
[01:07] <spikeb> vanberge: yes, i do know that there aren't any plans for such a port until such a time that linux is popular enough to force apple to do so.
[01:07] <spikeb> vanberge: in other words, maybe in five or ten years.
[01:07] <Flippy209> so when I'm browsing for startup is that what I select, and how do I see "hidden" (isn't that what the . means) files?
[01:07] <DrSpin> osnes9x will not spawn a window and it will die -- seems like it needs Mesa libraries -- anyone know which ones?
[01:07] <vanberge> spikeb: think so?  i thought ubuntu was gaining speed quickly
[01:08] <spikeb> Flippy209: i dont know, but why would you need to?
[01:08] <spikeb> vanberge: look how long it took apple to port itunes to WINDOWS.
[01:08] <supercargo> is there a way to execute an arbitrary script when logging out from gnome?
[01:08] <Flippy209> hah
[01:08] <supercargo> I'd like to send sigterm to azureus so that it shuts down tidily.
[01:08] <kaur> nickrud: i uninstalled libreadline4 that didn't help...
[01:08] <supercargo> Without having to shut it down manually.
[01:08] <nickrud> kaur, again, post the complete error
[01:09] <kaur> nickrud: uninstallation was ok, no new errors
[01:09] <kaur> nickrud: still the same
[01:09] <stevekl> Wow, gomebaker hardlocked my system
[01:09] <moonlite> Flippy209: just type "xchat" there and it should work
[01:09] <stevekl> I don't think linux has ever hardlocked on me
[01:09] <stevekl> Bizzare!
[01:09] <Flippy209> ok
[01:09] <nickrud> kaur, try sudo ldconfig , then the import again. (really don't wanna deal with compiled shite)
[01:10] <_sp1d3r_> I'm going to bed...
[01:10] <nickrud> cuz I'm really dancing my on my edge with that these days
[01:11] <kaur> nickrud: still the same
[01:11] <nickrud> vanberge, try http://directory.fsf.org/all/sharpmusique.html .
[01:11] <p47> Hey, I have problems with my sound card, now I can't listen anyting, but I hace installed de sound card correctly, I have this with alsamixer http://p47.timesofcoffee.com/Pantallazo.png
[01:11] <Flippy209> brb testing, thanks moonlite ;)
[01:11] <nickrud> kaur, then we've reached the edge of my compentency.
[01:12] <vanberge> nickrud: tyvm
[01:12] <kaur> nickrud: at least you figured out the problem
[01:12] <kaur> nickrud: i need to get rid of the libreadline *** i compiled from source
[01:12] <nickrud> vanberge, never used it before, I've just watched the itunes stuff evolve on the restricted formats page, that seems to be the consensus
[01:12] <nickrud> kaur, precisely
[01:13] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: what were you saying about a checksum?
[01:13] <Snow_Shelter> can someone make a newer package of aMSN, or help me troubleshoot my webcam problem
[01:13] <jajaja-> is sql 5 and myth 0.18 the reason I am having lots of problems trying to get myth running
[01:13] <stevekl> Can someone help me with gnomebaker? I try to write a DVD and it just doesn't begin, and sometimes it locks up my entire computer
[01:14] <p47> help me !!!!!!!!!!!}
[01:14] <kaur> nickrud: what if i'd manage to find the same source and compile it again and then uninstall it?
[01:14] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: I was just saying that if bzip makes a checksum, then running dd | bzip | split might not work, would it?  since the bzip checksum wouldn't happen on each split file, would it?
[01:14] <Snow_Shelter> anyone here that can help with aMSN?
[01:14] <nickrud> kaur, possibly. This is a sledge hammer, but reboot. See if the library recognition sorts itself out.
[01:14] <Flippy209> works wonderfully, thanks moonlite & spikeb :)
[01:14] <spikeb> Flippy209: sweet
[01:15] <moonlite> kaur: didn't it work to just remove the libreadline.so* and then reinstalling readline from synaptic?
[01:15] <OneSeventeen> dooglus (Of course I  have no idea how it really works, and I could just be assuming the wrong things based on zero knowledge on the subject)
[01:15] <dooglus> kaur: 'sudo checkinstall' is a good way to install a package from source.  that makes a .deb from the compiled program and installs it.  to uninstall, you can uninstall the package like any other
[01:15] <kaur> nickrud: ok i'll try the deleting
[01:15] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: you will have to 'cat' all the parts, and pipe the result through bunzip before writing it back to the disk
[01:15] <kaur> nickrud: sry
[01:15] <kaur> nickrud: wrong address
[01:15] <nickrud> kaur, thought you had
[01:16] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: to backup:  dd | bzip | split;  to restore:  cat x?? | bunzip | dd
[01:16] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: basically the restore pipeline is the exact reverse of the backup pipeline.
[01:16] <jad_> guys, on this desktop I've installed Fedora5 once and I was able to use resolutions higher than 1024 now with dapper I can't despite I added more resolutions to xorg.conf
[01:16] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: cat is the 'inverse' of split, like bunzip is the inverse of bzip
[01:17] <cwillu> my smb configuration broke  :(  It was working, but now it hangs when I mount /mnt/office (as used to work), or try to browse it in nautilus (using smb://)
[01:17] <dooglus> (except there should be some 2's in there somewhere too...)
[01:17] <nickrud> jad_, does the Monitor section have your monitor's refresh rates?
[01:17] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: cool, thanks, that makes sense :D
[01:17] <chrsjav> can i display .hlp files in linux?
[01:17] <Mikelo> !peercast
[01:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about peercast
[01:17] <moonlite> jad_: i'm guessing you don't have the right drivers installed
[01:17] <moonlite> and you shouldn't have to hand edit xorg.conf
[01:18] <Mikelo> can anybody help me out with peercast?
[01:18] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: the problem with compressing like that is that if any single piece gets damaged then you lose the whole lot (due to checksums in the archive)
[01:18] <Sivik> anyone here play nwn in the linux client
[01:18] <nickrud> Sivik, I have, yes
[01:18] <moonlite> gnomes resolution changer doesn't care about your modelines anyway i think
[01:18] <jad_> moonlite, nickrud here is my xorg.conf http://phpfi.com/124841
[01:18] <Sivik> nickrud: i am looking for someone who plays it right now
[01:18] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: that's more of what I was thinking, was that it would do the checksum on the sum of all parts, not each individual part
[01:18] <Sivik> nickrud: i'm trying to find a good fixinstall file
[01:18] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: that would require some extra cleverness of the 'split' command, which it doesn't have.
[01:19] <kaur> nickrud: it works now. sorry, that i bothered, and thanks a lot
[01:19] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: yup, and which would make it too complicated to be useful, IMO
[01:19] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: split won't write compressed.
[01:19] <moonlite> jad_: wha graphics card?
[01:19] <nickrud> kaur, np, not a bother. Gotta have trustable repos ;)
[01:19] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: one thing you could do is mount the USB drive as a compressed filesystem, but that gets messy too...
[01:19] <jad_> moonlite, nvidia
[01:19] <moonlite> did you install nvidias drivers?
[01:19] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: yeah, I'm not too worried about it, I'm actually running dd without any compression.
[01:19] <moonlite> (they're in universe or multiverse or something)
[01:20] <CrashProne> Hey, just to mention something, I totally found a solution to ruining your sound configuration for reasons you don't know and not knowing how to fix it.  If the default was working nice, you can just delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state , and do a hard reset. :-O  It reverts to the originally installed defaults.
[01:20] <kaur> nickrud: still, i have one question if u don't mind
[01:20] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: that's what I would do.  especially if I was being paid by the hour :)
[01:20] <nickrud> shoot
[01:20] <kaur> nickrud: it has bothered me for a long time
[01:20] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: and it just now finished, 44 items with a total of 43GB! :D
[01:20] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: comp-time, here I come!
[01:20] <jad_> moonlite, no, but do I have to ?
[01:20] <slusk> I've just installed dapper - why is my locale set to en_AU?
[01:20] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: comp-time?
[01:21] <slusk> and how do I change it to en_US or something else
[01:21] <nickrud> Sivik, I could put up the one I used, I backed up the nwn to a dvd with all
[01:21] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: it's what we use here if we work too long, instead of getting overtime, we just leave early on Friday (which I'm rather fond of)
[01:21] <moonlite> jad_: i'm not sure, but i'm quite sure poking around in your xorg.conf wont help you much
[01:21] <Sivik> nickrud: that would be nice
[01:21] <Sivik> nickrud: cause when i'm running the stuff, i'm getting an error with fixinstall
[01:21] <kaur> nickrud: when i install a deb package, called "X" for example and it installs some dependencies, then after i uninstall "X" it doesn't uninstall the packages  it installed
[01:22] <moonlite> jad_: try installing them and see if it works nice then, if not, go back to config-editing
[01:22] <kaur> nickrud: must i uninstall them manually?
[01:22] <nickrud> kaur, let me introduce you to aptitude :)
[01:22] <kaur> nickrud: i've used synaptic
[01:22] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem with hibernate, it does do nothing. I have upgraded my Breezy to Dapper. Anybody knows what will needed?
[01:22] <kaur> nickrud: and the apt-get thing
[01:22] <nickrud> Sivik, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16140
[01:23] <moonlite> jad_: i should add that i haven't used nvidias drivers myself since i don't own an nvidia card, but your problem seems to be driver problems
[01:23] <jad_> moonlite, nvidia-glx ? is this whati've to install
[01:23] <kaur> nickrud: are u telling that this is normal, that i must uninstall manually?
[01:23] <Zambezi> Is there an easy why to protect again SSH-worms? And a protection for portscanning?
[01:23] <nickrud> kaur, aptitude does exactly that, tracks what were installed as dependencies. If, when you uninstall something that pulls in dependencies, it will automatically uninstall unused dependencies
[01:23] <Sivik> nickrud, is that the fixinstall that you used
[01:23] <Slyboots> Does anyone here use "Xmame"
[01:23] <nickrud> Sivik, yes
[01:24] <kaur> nickrud: ok i'll remember
[01:24] <dooglus> I just deleted a 500Mb file, and still only have 50Mb of free disk space.  Why didn't the free space go up when I deleted the file?
[01:24] <moonlite> jad_: there should be some page on the wiki about this, hold
[01:24] <Slyboots> You ahve to empty the trash
[01:24] <nickrud> Sivik, let me repost, I see something odd there
[01:24] <dooglus> Slyboots: I used 'rm'
[01:24] <moonlite> (or search for yourself! :) )
[01:24] <gilianima> what are the shortcuts for aiglx/compiz ?
[01:24] <Slyboots> I still think you have to empty the trash
[01:25] <dooglus> Slyboots: I have used xmame in the past.  I used to be in the mame development team years ago
[01:25] <kaur> nickrud: ok, bye
[01:25] <stevekl> Time to install k3b
[01:25] <nickrud> Sivik, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16141
[01:25] <SurfnKid> how can i transfer files from one box to another using linux
[01:25] <moonlite> jad_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto seems to be the place
[01:25] <SurfnKid> scp
[01:25] <dooglus> SurfnKid: 'scp'
[01:25] <SurfnKid> sftp
[01:25] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:26] <SurfnKid> guess thast what i have to do then
[01:26] <jad_> moonlite, thanks i'll check and install
[01:26] <nickrud> kaur, it's a lovely program, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:26] <Slyboots> I have to Alt-out to another terminal and back to Xwindows to get the display back
[01:26] <kaur> nickrud: why doesn't synaptic do that?
[01:26] <ktogias> I have /home at an 323G ext3 fs. System seems to reserve 17GB, as the available space is only 306G... Is there any way to configure the portion of the filesystem that the system reserves?
[01:26] <nickrud> kaur, to be more compatible with the way apt-get works. That'
[01:26] <SurfnKid> dooglus: but i have to know the source and target paths?
[01:27] <kaur> nickrud: there are probably many useless packages in my system
[01:27] <nickrud> s why you'll never see me using aptitude as an install tool in theis channel
[01:27] <Sivik> nickrud, i will try that one
[01:27] <moonlite> jad_: it actually was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but i'm guessing yo saw that yourself. np
[01:27] <aSkito> hi
[01:27] <dxdemetriou> The Hibernate on Dapper needs some configuration to work?
[01:27] <Slyboots> I mean, its an annoyance more than anything since the machine doenet crash, I just loose the display
[01:27] <aSkito> for installing APT-GET an ubuntu?
[01:27] <aSkito> who cant helpme
[01:28] <kaur> nickrud: and there's no way of tracking them down as i see
[01:28] <moonlite> dxdemetriou: it depends on hardware
[01:28] <nickrud> Sivik, as I remember it, I used the gold install, but did a couple of things different. Slashed & burned my way thru the install, but that was definitely the fixinstall I used
[01:28] <moonlite> on some hardware it works out of the box and on some you nead tweaks etc.
[01:28] <nickrud> kaur, yes, there's an old school tool called debfoster
[01:28] <kaur> nickrud: what does that do?
[01:28] <dxdemetriou> moonlite, It doesn't do anything, and I don't know how can I see the problem
[01:28] <dooglus> SurfnKid: source and target is just where you want to copy from and to
[01:29] <nickrud> kaur, it helps you delete unused packages
[01:29] <Raito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16139, I tried to run something with wine, what happened?
[01:29] <Sivik> nickrud, ok, i am getting an error when i'm trying to run an md5sum on that file as well as a Segmentation error when i run nwn
[01:29] <kaur> nickrud: ok, already reading about it
[01:29] <nickrud> Sivik, not a clue, really. I used that one, and as I said, I slashed & burned my way thru.
[01:29] <dooglus> SurfnKid: something like "scp -r /home/surfn/files/ machine2:/home/surfn/files
[01:29] <compengi> how do i configure on ubuntu my network static ip
[01:29] <Sivik> nickrud, lol, did you ever get it to work
[01:29] <matgates> Is there a way to access iTunes podcast directory from Ubuntu?
[01:30] <dooglus> compengi: in the network manager, turn off DHCP
[01:30] <gavagai> user@machine2
[01:30] <nickrud> Sivik, yeah, sure did. I bought the platinum edition
[01:30] <gavagai> if diff usernames
[01:30] <compengi> i'm working on windows now
[01:30] <Sivik> nickrud: lol
[01:30] <compengi> give me steps
[01:30] <compengi> i'm a new user
[01:30] <compengi> :D
[01:30] <kaur> nickrud: i'll try it. Seems to be a wonderful tool... Windows should have something like this and it would be almoust usable....
[01:31] <moonlite> dxdemetriou: i can't help you further. i'm just happy suspend works on my computer. i read a blog post recently saying that there was work being done in the right directions at least, maybe it will work better in a year or so
[01:31] <nickrud> kaur, debfoster is something to use to clean your system once, it's a tool I use tongs to handle these days
[01:31] <matgates> compengi: you're using a default installation of ubunbu (i.e. you didn't select KDE as your interface)?
[01:32] <compengi> what?
[01:32] <Raito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16139, anyone know why wine didn't work?
[01:32] <JordiGH> How can I remap a key? I'm on a mac, and I would like the apple key to have the same functionality as what the alt-option key has right now.
[01:32] <compengi> i need to configure my network cards to static ips
[01:33] <nickrud> JordiGH, if you get no better response (and I hope you do) xmodmap is the user tool for defining keys
[01:34] <Flippy209> compengi: System > Administration > Networking. Change the properties for the nic there ;)
[01:34] <compengi> and btw how can i know if my network card driver is installed
[01:34] <matgates> compengi: goto System [menu]  -> Adminisration -> Networking.  Enter password if prompted.  Select the network device you want to configure, click properties.  Select if you want to use static or dhcp.
[01:34] <Raito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16139, anybody know why wine didn't work?
[01:34] <compengi> that's what i did
[01:34] <compengi> but they have only 3 line
[01:34] <Flippy209> who's pro on connecting to windows workgroup shares
[01:35] <matgates> Raito: because wine is a big pile of poo...  :)
[01:35] <compengi> ip, submask, and gateway
[01:35] <compengi> but i need alternate and prefered dns also
[01:35] <Raito> matgates: Can you give me a real reason? Did I do something wrong or is wine just not compatible with that program?
[01:36] <spikeb> Raito: it looks like it might not be compatible, and also that you might not have glx loaded
[01:36] <smahoney> Hey all, anybody have experience dealing with system freezes when using option renderaccel="true" with an nVidia card?
[01:36] <Raito> I don't have glx, what is that?
[01:36] <spikeb> something to do with acellerated rendering.
[01:36] <nickrud> besides the fact that matgates pointed out the fundamental issue
[01:36] <JordiGH> Oh, neato. Konversation assigns a colour to each user.
[01:36] <matgates> Raito: My experience of wine is that it's not compatible with a whole lot.  But I know that a lot of program can be made to work with some fiddling.  our best chance is to check the application database and see if there is a config change you can make:  http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:37] <Raito> matgates: I think I need glx, what is it?
[01:37] <JordiGH> nickrud: Do you know how to use xmodmap? Man pages are cryptic as usual. :-(
[01:37] <compengi> how can i know if network drivers are installed
[01:37] <matgates> Raito: I don't know the specifics of the app your trying to use... I'm no good at deciphering the output of wine.  It's just general advice that I'm re-gurgitating...  :)
[01:38] <nickrud> JordiGH, every time I need to I have to read and decipher that page. I don't use it enough to have it memorized.
[01:38] <Mikelo> can anybody get peercast running
[01:38] <matgates> compengi: What network card are you using?
[01:38] <Raito> matgates, but you do know what glx is and where I get it right?
[01:38] <JordiGH> Aha!
[01:38] <JordiGH> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040425231058862
[01:38] <compengi> Raito i'm using d-link
[01:38] <Sivik> nickrud, non of the fixinstall's i can find work
[01:38] <compengi> and i have another realtek
[01:38] <Warbo> I have just written a guide on the Radeon driver and would appreciate any improvements, and possibly adding it to !radeon. It is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[01:39] <matgates> Raito: glx is to do with accelerated 3d graphics drivers.  Some apps will run /really/ slowly unless you have the accelerated driveres installed for your card.
[01:39] <Flippy209> anybody know how to resolve this error:  "Windows Network: workgroup" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted.
[01:39] <Raito> but they will run right? The app is a 2d app so I don't think I need any 3d things
[01:39] <kaur> nickrud: i still have to know if i need these packages...
[01:40] <Warbo> Raito: I found that WINE did not run programs when my 3D driver was screwed up
[01:40] <nickrud> kaur, yeah, that's the real issue, true.
[01:40] <matgates> Raito: yeah.  The 3d drivers are needed only for applications that use 3d stuff, like opengl.  Stellarium is a good example.  The only caveat to this is that I don't know about wine usage in this respect.
[01:41] <nickrud> Sivik, I'm not sure how I can be of much more help then. If you are in San Antonio, you can copy my install ;)
[01:41] <Raito> sigh, I guess wine can't play obscure japanese windows games
[01:41] <raldi> Ever since i installed Ubuntu on my Thinkpad, i've felt it's been running hot. I got my proof today when i came home from work and found it off: the thermal alarm went off at 95 C / 200 F ! I hadn't been running anything when i left. Anyone know any tips for investigating this?
[01:41] <Sivik> nickrud: do you live in SA?
[01:41] <Flippy209> Warbo: you there?
[01:41] <spikeb> Raito: heh
[01:41] <spikeb> Raito: probably not
[01:42] <nickrud> Sivik, thru the summer, then back to the west coast
[01:42] <Raito> would cedega or something give me any luck?
[01:42] <Sivik> ah
[01:42] <blueyed> raldi: have you taken a look at "top"?
[01:42] <Warbo> Raito: If it obscure then maybe not
[01:42] <Sivik> i'm just going to remove all of this stuff, and use the native linux resources as well
[01:42] <raldi> blueyed: yeah, it looks normal. hald-addon-stor pops up every now and then but that's it
[01:43] <blueyed> raldi: I've also read somewhere that a new kernel in ubtunu-updates has the "timer interval" lowered because of this.
[01:43] <blocky> okay newb question, how do I apt-get install aclocal
[01:43] <raldi> blueyed: that sounds like a great lead! do you remember where you saw that?
[01:43] <blueyed> raldi: ok. e.g. gam_server can produce extra load, therefor I've asked.
[01:43] <raldi> okay, let me spend some time with google
[01:43] <raldi> thanks!
[01:43] <Raito> guess I'll just give up :/, Damnit, why did I have to get into ubuntu, now I need features from ubuntu and windows, T_T
[01:43] <nickrud> Sivik, can I pm you?
[01:44] <Warbo> Raito: WINE works by trying do implement everything, starting with the core feaatures of Windows and finishing with little tweaks that aren't critical. Cedega makes sure one thing works fully, then moves on to the next. Their approach may not include you game yet
[01:44] <matgates> Raito: I really can't say.  I avoid wine whenever possible.  Install an old copy of win 98 or something in a vmware virtual machine and run your game there   :)
[01:44] <blueyed> raldi: I'd just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and make sure that you have the breezy-updates repo enabled.
[01:44] <InvisiblePinkUni> just installed exim4 on ubuntu. how do i setup a catchall account? should i edit a file in /etc/exim4/conf.d/ ?
[01:44] <dxdemetriou> The hibernate is deppending how free space have the swap?
[01:44] <blueyed> raldi: what does "uname -a" say on your lap?
[01:44] <BlueLotus> http://pastebin.com/722254  <-- Can someone help me understand this error that I get from trying to run JEdit?
[01:44] <Raito> what is a vmware virtual machine and why not windows xp?
[01:45] <raldi> blueyed: Linux zork 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:45] <nickrud> zork?
[01:45] <blueyed> raldi: do you have ubuntu dapper? the current kernel is 2.6.15-25-k7!
[01:45] <blueyed> ..without -k7 maybe :p
[01:45] <triplep> with 'tar' is there a flag that will allow everythign to be dumped into the main level of the tarball, i.e. no sub dirs
[01:45] <Warbo> Raito: When virtualising or emulating you want to run something which requires very few resources. 98 needs (and uses) far less than XP, so it will run faster and give your game more resources (because you don't want to run an OS, you want to run the game)
[01:45] <Sivik> nickrud, please
[01:45] <matgates> Raito: Because you have to activate XP and you'll need another license key for it - it counts as a separate install.
[01:46] <scud> does ubuntu have a gnome app to remove startup services, when i shutdown i see a bittorrent tracker service and raid monitoring (which i dont want or need)?
[01:46] <matgates> Raito: Yeah, also what Warbo said  :)
[01:46] <raldi> blueyed: i'm using breezy .. let me take a look at my grub conf
[01:46] <frying_fish> scud: you can get a text based one
[01:46] <Raito> what is this virtual vmwhatever thing?
[01:46] <frying_fish> sysv-rc-conf
[01:46] <frying_fish> uses perl, gives you a list of the services, and some checkboxes
[01:46] <blueyed> raldi: may be ok, for breezy. I'd dist-upgrade to dapper, anyway.
[01:47] <bioticpro> Looking to buy an Nvidia card... which of these do yall think is best bet?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814127203%2CN82E16814130014%2CN82E16814133149%2CN82E16814164056
[01:47] <Sivik> pm nickrud
[01:47] <matgates> Raito, it's like microsoft virtual PC...  vmware-player is the ubuntu package which you use to "play" virtual machines (i.e. use them)
[01:47] <scud> frying_fish: what is the linux command to remove services like that?
[01:47] <scud> i know its associated with chklvl or something
[01:47] <Warbo> matgates: I wasn't sure if XP needed another license if you virtualise it on a machine it is installed on (but I assume that you can virtualise it if you have removed it as a host OS, sice a license is transferable)
[01:47] <frying_fish> scud: just install sysv-rc-conf
[01:47] <frying_fish> and then you can turn them off with that.
[01:47] <frying_fish> or decide what levels they are run on.
[01:48] <Warbo> !vmware
[01:48] <ubotu> VMWare player is in the Ubuntu repositories. Install instructions for VMWare server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[01:48] <SurfnKid> Question... on scp
[01:48] <SurfnKid> can you have a commander like screen to transfer files from/to
[01:48] <matgates> Warbo: Well, I tried that since I had a reduntant copy  (nuked the OEM version on my machine 2 mins after it arrived:), but it seems microsoft "know" the hardware config somehow, and the activation on the virtual machine fails.
[01:48] <Raito> well, considering the fact that this computer says Designed for Microsoft Windows 98 on its box, I don't think I'd be too successfull, I guess I have to boot up windows when I need it
[01:49] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: 'mc' can do something like that
[01:49] <Sivik> nickrud: did you still want to talk in pm?
[01:49] <nickrud> Sivik, are you not recieving, I am sending.
[01:49] <nickrud> and registered
[01:50] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: ok.. two machines, both linux, do i use mc thru scp or just mc
[01:50] <Sivik> i guess i'm not recieving
[01:50] <Sivik> it says i'm already identified
[01:50] <Sivik> did you recieve my pm?
[01:50] <Warbo> matgates: Surely that is illegal? Their licence clearly says that you can install it on another machine if you remove it from the first. Either a) VMWare is not counted as a seperate machine, so therefore you can install it as a host and guest with one licence, no problems or b) VMWare is another machine, in which case you can install to it like any other machine as long as it has been removed from your other one
[01:50] <Sivik> do you have an instant messenger program?
[01:51] <nickrud> Sivik, join #nickrud
[01:51] <Warbo> matgates: (I meant that M$ is being illegal, not you)
[01:51] <matgates> Raito: In general I think there are three options if you need to run windows software.  1. use wine (only works for a small number of apps)  2.  Use a virtual machine like vmware.  3.  Dual boot.  2 is a good compromise in my opinion, but it's down to personal requirements.  Of course the BEST thing to do is not be reliant on windows software ;)
[01:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> how do i setup a catchall account for exim4?
[01:51] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: it'll do the ssh/scp part of it for you, I think
[01:51] <matgates> Warbo: *shrug* in either case, it doesn't work.  All the more reason to junk the OS completely. :D
[01:51] <jad_> moonlite, now nvidia installed but max resolution still 1024
[01:51] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: ok gonna try
[01:51] <pekay> hey anyone wanna help with a OpenGL problem?
[01:51] <pekay> :[
[01:52] <Raito> man, the people who do wine reviews sure butter it up, thanks for the help matgates, bye
[01:52] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: do i install mc?
[01:52] <Warbo> matgates: Exactly. I think WINE is mainly useful for porting applications (like Picasa recently)
[01:52] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: command not found
[01:52] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: that'd be a good start ;-)
[01:52] <SurfnKid> oh
[01:52] <SurfnKid> :P
[01:52] <matgates> Raito: I agree that it's hyped.  I think it's cool when it works, but it's not very reliable in my experience.
[01:52] <pekay> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:52] <HellDragon> hi
[01:53] <pekay> :/
[01:53] <erick> #debian-es
[01:53] <matgates> Just my 2 cents though, some people have great success.
[01:53] <riddlebox> what is the correct apt-get cli to install all packages needed to compile an app by source?
[01:53] <Warbo> pekay: You need a 3D driver. What model is your graphics card?
[01:53] <matgates> Warbo: Yeah, I think there's value in the project.  Plus the windows API is not a moving target like some of the linux APIs, so there's some value there.
[01:53] <nickrud> riddlebox, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:53] <gnomefreak> riddlebox: apt-get install build-essential or apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[01:53] <HellDragon> i just putted a CD in my cd player and i cant open it to get my cd out! its stuck
[01:54] <riddlebox> thats it thanks
[01:54] <HellDragon> what i do to get it out ?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> riddlebox: depends if package is in repos or not
[01:54] <matgates> HellDragon: Do you have an icon on the desktop for your cdrom disk?
[01:54] <Warbo> HellDragon: Right click on the desktop icon and select eject :)
[01:54] <HellDragon> yes
[01:54] <nickrud> riddlebox, that is the bare minimum, you'll need more -dev packages for just about everything
[01:54] <twobitspr1te> I had a package fail to install in dapper, and now everytime I install anything it tries to fix this one package... how do I get it to stop?
[01:54] <HellDragon> oh i see thankyou
[01:54] <matgates> HellDragon: right click on it... do you get an eject option?
[01:54] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, have you tried apt-get remove <package> ?
[01:55] <pekay> Warbo: nvidia, NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] 
[01:55] <Warbo> !nvidia
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, same error
[01:55] <Sivik> nickrud, you really don't have to do that for me
[01:55] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[01:55] <pekay> Warbo: opengl worked fine till I installed nvidia stuff
[01:55] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, could you put the full error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:55] <Warbo> pekay: I doubt it, since the Free Software "nv" driver which Ubuntu ships with has no OpenGL support
[01:56] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: I've just had a play to see how to use it. you do something like 'cd /#sh:user@host/' to make the current panel show files from the remote machine
[01:56] <Flippy209> Warbo are you a bot?
[01:56] <nickrud> Sivik, np, I always wondered if it was that easy to put it back. Now is as good a time as any.
[01:56] <Warbo> Flippy209: Shhhhhhhh.......
[01:56] <Sivik> nickrud: ok
[01:56] <Flippy209> teehee
[01:56] <pekay> Warbo: :S, yes but i tested glxgears when i installed Ubuntu ;p
[01:56] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16142
[01:56] <Flippy209> any assistance installing these drivers would be appreciated
[01:56] <pekay> Warbo: and the gears worked
[01:56] <Flippy209> I"m getting errors when I run the mod probe
[01:57] <riddlebox> if I need to have a command run at boot what do I do in /etc/init.d/ to make it happen at every boot?
[01:57] <Flippy209> and then when I run the fix it says module fglrx is in use
[01:57] <Flippy209> so I ss |  grep for it and ps -ef | grep to kill it and I only return my grep
[01:57] <nickrud> mldonkey has been a fubared package for a while,
[01:58] <Warbo> pekay: They will appear, but they have nothing to do with your graphics card. When you use the nv driver the whole OpenGL architecture is made out of software called Mesa which is executed by your CPU. The only thing your graphics card does is make a convienient place to plug your monitor into
[01:58] <matgates> pekay: by default there is a software implementation of the 3d stuff.  It works, but very slowly compared to hadware acceleration.  Becasue glxgears is so simple, it can run in software quite OK... but try to run a heavier app and you'll find the 3d stuff is terribly slow.
[01:58] <eonbluezzz> !porn
[01:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn
[01:58] <Warbo> pekay: This is a very slow situation, and doesn;t work for a lot of situations (hence your problem)
[01:59] <moonlite> jad_: then i don't know unfortunately
[01:59] <Warbo> !giving information
[01:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about giving information
[01:59] <Warbo> Yay! :)
[01:59] <loquitus_of_borg> hey people
[01:59] <loquitus_of_borg> how can I find out from the command line if firestarter is running or not?
[01:59] <rixxon> i'd like to browse removed files, with ability to either recover the data, or overwrite it to make recovery impossible - program/package suggestion?
[02:00] <Flippy209> Warbo: does http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16143 help you at all?
[02:00] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, go to the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm , and put the text     exit 0    on the second line. Try sudo apt-get install --purge mldonkey-server
[02:00] <pekay> Warbo: alrighty, following the wiki
[02:01] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, erm, sudo apt-get remove --purge mldonkey-server , sorry
[02:01] <Flippy209> I'm following it too, but I am having issues :(
[02:01] <Munchkinguy> Are there any plans to put GNASH into the Universe repository?
[02:01] <Warbo> Flippy209: That happens when you have fglrx installed (it happened to me) use rmmod fglrx
[02:01] <Flippy209> have
[02:01] <Flippy209>  sudo rmmod fglrx
[02:01] <Flippy209> ERROR: Module fglrx is in use
[02:02] <Warbo> Flippy209: Then it obviously hasn't removed it. You must have to do it from a console, I'll change the Wiki
[02:02] <javiolo> how can I compile an app for ppc ?
[02:02] <Flippy209> how can I find the pid for this?
[02:02] <Warbo> Flippy209: Of what?
[02:02] <Flippy209> I'm trying to do it from a console to stop the process
[02:02] <Flippy209> the fglrx
[02:03] <Twinxor> hm, lspci doesn't see my wireless card, even though it's in /sys/bus/pcmcia/drivers/
[02:03] <Jessehk> Should I be using aptitude or apt-get?
[02:03] <Twinxor> how can I fix it?
[02:03] <Blissex> Jessehk: Aptitude is a lot more useful...
[02:03] <Twinxor> Jessehk, synaptic is the most user-friendly one
[02:03] <Warbo> Flippy209: You need to stop X with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", fglrx is a driver. "stopping" it would involve stopping your kernel :)
[02:03] <Flippy209> and yes, I did already have it installed. I installed it last night, plays wow pretty crappy
[02:03] <Sivik> nickrud, now i'm missing the miles folder
[02:03] <Jessehk> Blissex : How?
[02:03] <Blissex> Jessehk: if you prefer GUI Synaptic, but it is less finely controllable than Aptitude.
[02:03] <Flippy209> eek
[02:03] <wilerson> Hi all. I'm using Dapper and, just after I installed, my sound was working fine. Then I installed some video and audio players and I think one of them modified my configuration files, because since then my sound got scrambled. Is there some way for me to restore the older configuration of the soundboard or to reconfigure it?
[02:03] <erick> ubuntu-es
[02:04] <Flippy209> that command will let me run the next one though?
[02:04] <erick> #ubuntu-es
[02:04] <Twinxor> aptitude/synaptic are just nicer because they have an interface
[02:04] <nickrud> Sivik, I did that a long time ago, I vaguely followed a howto on the nwn forums. I think the gold one. But it was over a year ago.
[02:04] <Blissex> Jessehk: with Aptitude you can see what you can install, do searches using a query language, and explore the tree of dependencies of individual packages
[02:04] <Twinxor> the functionality and end effect is the same
[02:04] <Twinxor> any ideas about getting this card recognized by lspci?
[02:04] <Warbo> Flippy209: Your graphics session will log out (so save any changes :)) then you can edit your stuff (I was doing all of my editing from a console since I had no working X at this time :))
[02:04] <Jessehk> Blissex Twinxor : Thanks :)
[02:04] <Blissex> Twinxor: Aptitude has facilities like the query language that mean its functionality is a lot more than 'apt-get' or Synaptic.
[02:05] <pekay> Warbo: got some X Server error on the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[02:05] <Twinxor> neat, haven't used that, Blissex
[02:05] <reqage> can anyone point me to a good walk through on installing peerguardian or moblock?
[02:05] <reqage> some of the threads on the forums don't seem to work
[02:06] <Slyboots> Okay, I've been at this for hours, I have *NO* freaking idea why this is not working
[02:06] <Twinxor> frankly, I wouldn't bother - peerguardian is a joke as far as acutal security
[02:06] <reqage> using it mostly for the blocklist
[02:06] <Raito> I installed the sun-java5-bin package, but how do I get java to work in firefox?
[02:07] <Twinxor> IIRC, there's no reason to believe the blocklist actually discourages RIAA/MPAA nastygrams
[02:07] <nickrud> Raito, install the sun-java5-plugin package I believe
[02:07] <Raito> oh, so what is the bin package for? for the desktop?
[02:07] <wilerson> Raito: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:08] <Raito> I used that site >_<
[02:08] <Warbo> pekay: I never use that tool myself, so I would do it manually (replace: Driver                   "nv" with: Driver                      "nvidia")
[02:08] <reqage> also, got another question but about wine
[02:08] <reqage> how do I install an .exe with wine?
[02:08] <pekay> Warbo: where? :S
[02:08] <Warbo> reqage: "wine filename.exe"
[02:08] <Sivik> nickrud: go ahead and send me those files please
[02:09] <Warbo> pekay: Look for it. It will be under the mouse and keyboard stuff
[02:09] <blocky> anybody know offhand what package i need for the gtk dev files
[02:09] <ramonsa> hello!
[02:09] <reqage> thanks warbo
[02:09] <Sivik> nickrud: you wanna ssh into my machine, that would probably be the easiest way
[02:10] <nickrud> Sivik, sure, that would be acceptable.
[02:10] <pekay> Warbo: oh this "	Driver		"nvidia""
[02:10] <Sivik> nickrud: join me in that channel again
[02:10] <Warbo> pekay: It already says it?
[02:10] <pekay> Warbo: had "nv"
[02:10] <pekay> changed to "nvidia"
[02:10] <pekay> i restart X Server now?
[02:10] <Warbo> pekay: Ah, OK (I was a little confused there, as this may have been a serious problem!)
[02:10] <pekay> hah
[02:10] <Warbo> pekay: Yes
[02:10] <pekay> okay
[02:11] <Warbo> Slyboots: Maybe the monitor connection came out when you hit it?
[02:11] <Slyboots> . . .
[02:11] <ramonsa> Question: I am trying to update to Dapper from breezy but i fail to disable LVM with sudo vgchange -a n. Any help?
[02:12] <dalphi> do you have any open LV's?
[02:12] <wilerson> A friend of mine is using ubuntu 5.10 on his laptop HP ze2430, but he can't get video output unless plugging in an external monitor. Any help?
[02:12] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: ok i have to install mc first, and i cant, so.. let me ask you this, does mc have to run on both server/client or just one
[02:12] <ramonsa> dalphi: yes system responds like so:  Can't deactivate volume group "Ubuntu" with 2 open logical volume(s)
[02:12] <dashriKe> ubuntu is smarter than me
[02:13] <dashriKe> curse groming up on windows
[02:13] <pekay> Warbo: thanks alot :] ] ]  works!
[02:13] <dashriKe> *growing
[02:13] <dalphi> ramonsa: does 'df' show any LV's mounted?
[02:13] <Warbo> I'm gonna try getting Enlightenment to work at login now, so I may not be available (I am stuck in one desktop for now)
[02:13] <Slyboots> Bloody linux..
[02:13] <Slyboots> Pain in the ass
[02:13] <Warbo> Slyboots: Take that laptop out of....
[02:14] <asko> helpmeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:14] <rixxon> if i didn't securely remove a file (with eg. "wipe"), how can i do it after normally deleted?
[02:15] <asko> my APT-GET not Service
[02:15] <rixxon> asko: are you running apt-get as root?
[02:15] <rixxon> asko: "sudo apt-get ..."?
[02:15] <asko> yes
[02:15] <asko> de root
[02:15] <apokryphos> !helpme
[02:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:15] <rixxon> asko: did you break sources.list? :P
[02:15] <asko> of root
[02:15] <Warbo> rixxon: I don't know other than backing up your wanted data and dumping zeros and random data to the partition before formatting it and reinstalling
[02:15] <ramonsa> dalphi: df only shows the following: /   ,   /dev/shm   ,   /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-a md64-generic/volatile
[02:15] <ramonsa>   ,  /local , /media/alcar , and I am sory to admit /windows.
[02:16] <mcrandello_> semi serious data erasure "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=file;rm -rf file" then sit back and pick up a good book, this may take a while
[02:16] <rixxon> Warbo: well - technically it should be possible to overwrite it afterwards; just not sure if there exist such a program
[02:16] <Warbo> asko: What does "sudo apt-get update" say?
[02:16] <rixxon> Warbo: im thinking like a combination of some file recovery program and "wipe"
[02:17] <mcrandello_> that'll wipe everything in the free space on that partition
[02:17] <asko> nou
[02:17] <asko> ok
[02:17] <asko> tested
[02:17] <Warbo> rixxon: Exactly. The data is still there, but becomes detached from the filesystem. If it is detached then how do you know which bits to overwrite (eg. where is it?)
[02:17] <rixxon> mcrandello_: problem is i already deleted the files ;)
[02:17] <Twinxor> ok, so what the heck
[02:17] <asko> root@askopc:~ # sudo apt-get update
[02:17] <asko> Reading Package Lists... Done
[02:18] <Warbo> mcrandello_: Ah, good idea there
[02:18] <Twinxor> I'm using this PCMCIA wireless card right now, but it's not seen by lspci!
[02:18] <jrib> asko: you don't need to use sudo if you are root
[02:18] <rixxon> Warbo: well, several programs exist which can recover it - hence it should aswell be possible to simply overwrite it
[02:18] <mcrandello_> rixxon: that will fill every bit of free space on your partition with random gobbledygook
[02:18] <mcrandello_> then delete it
[02:18] <Warbo> asko: No errors? The what is the problem?
[02:18] <Twinxor> how can the system not see it?
[02:18] <mcrandello_> it's slow, but effective
[02:18] <rixxon> mcrandello_: wont that break the system? :S
[02:18] <mcrandello_> just the free space
[02:18] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, any success?
[02:18] <dalphi> ramanso:  whats 'df | grep -i ubuntu' have as its output?
[02:18] <ic56> rixxon: you could try to manually locate the blocks originally occupied by teh file and clear just those.  However, since you have no information about the original inode, block numbers, etc, this becomes a very advanced and dangerous exercise
[02:19] <mcrandello_> it may hang for a few seconds if it's the root filesystem :<
[02:19] <mcrandello_> err :V
[02:19] <rixxon> mcrandello_: what does 'file' represent in your command?
[02:20] <Warbo> rixxon: With your suggestion it would seem to work in something like FAT, but many Linux filesystems juggle data around to stop fragmentation and things, so an undelete utility may just make a copy of the data as it adds it back to the filesystem (then you can securely delete the recovered data, but the original is still there)
[02:20] <rixxon> ic56: well somehow those recovery programs can do it...
[02:20] <mcrandello_> "of" is "output file" so it creates a file named file.
[02:20] <Twinxor> help with lspci? pretty please?
[02:20] <dalphi> rixxon: if you fill the filesystem where the file was located 3-4 times, you should be ok
[02:20] <ramonsa> dalphi: output is as follows: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[02:20] <mcrandello_> once you're out of space it errors out, then the next command after the semicolon comes up "rm -rf file"
[02:21] <Warbo> mcrandello_: AHA! I never undertood the "if" and "of" of dd before. I thought it was just a stupid convention from decades ago :)
[02:21] <mcrandello_> it is (not stupid, just a convention)
[02:21] <Warbo> mcrandello_: lol
[02:21] <Twinxor> :(
[02:21] <mcrandello_> everything is a file
[02:21] <ic56> rixxon: maybe never tried it on Linux.
[02:21] <ic56> rixxon: maybe. never tried it on Linux.
[02:21] <dalphi> ramonsa: can you go to single user mode and unmount /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ?
[02:22] <rixxon> dalphi: yea but i have no idea where it was ;) - was thinking if there was some program that worked like recovery programs except it securely wipes the data
[02:22] <nickrud> Twinxor, lspci in a console ?
[02:22] <MattSta> is there any way to install 3ds max. I NEED IT
[02:22] <rixxon> ic56: me neither. nor windows. just heard it is possible lol
[02:22] <Sivik> nickrud, are you installing nwn?
[02:22] <Twinxor> yes, in console
[02:22] <Slyboots> Hmm..
[02:22] <Warbo> Twinxor: I don;t think PCMCIA cards show up in lspci (although the PCMCIA contoller might)
[02:22] <mcrandello_> and if you've overwritten the thing once with random data and they're going to the trouble to get it back you must have done something REALLY bad
[02:22] <nickrud> Sivik, installed. About to try
[02:22] <Slyboots> XDGA: info found 86 Modules
[02:22] <Twinxor> ohh, ok
[02:22] <Slyboots> What the heck?
[02:22] <Sivik> nickrud: could you send me the miles folder?
[02:22] <Twinxor> see, the cardbus thing shows up
[02:22] <dalphi> since you removed it, obviously going to be hard to find. if the filesystem is not too large, then it won't take too long
[02:22] <Warbo> Twinxor: Look in /proc somewhere
[02:22] <Twinxor> thanks Warbo
[02:23] <MattSta> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP
[02:23] <Twinxor> that was drviing me nuts - guess I'm used to normal pci cards
[02:23] <ramonsa> dalphi: I am afraid I do not know how to go to single user mode. Is that just <ctl> <alt> f3, or someting like that?
[02:23] <Twinxor> MattSta, you could use WINE
[02:23] <Sivik> nickrud: can you do that for me?
[02:23] <HellDragon> brb
[02:23] <Warbo> Twinxor: Sorry I was busy with other people before (see, I remembered your original question and didn't even need to scrool up :))
[02:23] <Flippy209> hey warbo, could you like that wiki page again? I can't boot into anything except text now
[02:23] <MattSta> what is WINE
[02:23] <rixxon> mcrandello_: oh i see how your command line works now - how smart!
[02:23] <Twinxor> but it can be challenging, so it might be easiest to run under windows
[02:23] <KhZilla> wine is not an emulator
[02:23] <Sivik> nickrud: are you there?
[02:23] <Sivik> wine is an emulator
[02:23] <MattSta> I can't use windows
[02:23] <Warbo> Flippy209: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[02:24] <Flippy209> thank you sir
[02:24] <Sivik> MattSta, what are you trying to run?
[02:24] <Flippy209> google'd all over for that
[02:24] <MattSta> 3ds max
[02:24] <Twinxor> MattSta, http://www.winehq.com/ might have some details on that program
[02:24] <rixxon> mcrandello_: i guess replacing 'rm -rf' with 'wipe' would make it even more secure...
[02:24] <Sivik> MattSta, try crossover office
[02:24] <Twinxor> you'll need to get it working, get your video card working, and you'll need a bit of luck..
[02:24] <nickrud> Sivik, still working, copied from the dvd
[02:24] <MattSta> whats crossover office?
[02:24] <Warbo> MattSta: That may be a little complex for WINE, and the 3D might go very slow.
[02:24] <mcrandello_> rixxon: what does wipe do? remember you'll be doing it to the balance of the free space on your HD ;P
[02:24] <Sivik> nickrud: so the game is working?
[02:24] <asko> exit
[02:24] <Sivik> MattSta,  google it
[02:24] <nickrud> Sivik, yes
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: did it load the prolouge maps and stuff
[02:25] <Warbo> Flippy209: Google won;t have it since I only wrote it about half an hour ago :)
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: or are you still just creating a character?
[02:25] <nickrud> Sivik, no, as I best recall, the movies don't play in linux. I just reloaded a saved game
[02:25] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[02:25] <rixxon> mcrandello_: wipe deletes the file and overwrites it several times
[02:25] <mcrandello_> also you could use /dev/zero and make the hd look like this -> 000000 000000 000000
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: i don't care much about the movies
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: could you send me the miles folder?
[02:26] <mcrandello_> rixxon: wipe might take a while :)
[02:26] <rixxon> mcrandello_: yes :P
[02:26] <KhZilla> anyone know how to disable the hibernate option in X?
[02:26] <Warbo> rixxon: Wipe random data? "Oh no! People can see my %*(&%()*! What will I do!?"
[02:26] <nickrud> Sivik, I don't see the miles folder at the top level, where is it
[02:26] <GUARDiAN|nb> is it possible to somehow "remap" mousebuttons? e.g if button "12" is pressed the software thinks that button "2" has been pressed?
[02:26] <nickrud> Sivik, nm
[02:26] <Warbo> (BTW, that was not meant to be censorship :))
[02:26] <Sivik> it should be in the nwn folder
[02:26] <Slyboots> Hm.. can you disable DGA access in Xorg?
[02:27] <nickrud> sure, it's tiny
[02:27] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks
[02:27] <mcrandello_> if it's that important a fine mixture of powdered iron and alum, ignited with a magnesium torch would do the trick
[02:27] <Sivik> its sftp user@ipaddress and then its just ftp
[02:27] <Warbo> mcrandello_: lol (have you been looking at slashdot?)
[02:27] <Sivik> nickrud, does that make sense?
[02:27] <Twinxor> Warbo, /sys/bus/pcmcia/devices/ had it, thanks
[02:28] <mcrandello_> Warbo, somethingawful
[02:28] <MattSta> will MAX work in crossover
[02:28] <Warbo> Twinxor: np (I don;t have a PCMCIA bus in my PC so I didn;t know the location)
[02:28] <Sivik> MattSta, not sure, no one has tried
[02:28] <Warbo> MattSta: They will probably have a list of supported applications
[02:28] <mcrandello_> MattSta: certainly doesn't like Wine http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=343
[02:29] <mcrandello_> although I almost had gmax running, which is the same codebase I think as max5
[02:29] <Sivik> Warbo: it says it on the crossover office website, but no one has tried to get it to work, no testers
[02:29] <Warbo> Sivik: Ah. Would my 30 day trial from 3D World magazine count? :)
[02:29] <mcrandello_> I had to use xwine or cedega or one of those wine versions with the fancy 3d libs
[02:29] <MattSta> it does have a list but i didnt see it there
[02:29] <Twinxor> MattSta, it looks to me like 3D Studio Max has a native linux version
[02:30] <Sivik> nickrud, join the other channel
[02:30] <Sivik> Twinxor, really?
[02:30] <Twinxor> according to a quick google
[02:30] <Warbo> I know Maya has a native Linux/UNIX version
[02:31] <Warbo> And Blender :)
[02:31] <pibe86> helo hola?
[02:31] <pibe86> hello
[02:32] <samsonasu> hola
[02:32] <Twinxor> yeah, or any of several OSS 3D modelers
[02:32] <pibe86> hola
[02:32] <pibe86> me pueden ayudar
[02:32] <pibe86> can anybody help me?
[02:32] <Twinxor> si
[02:32] <npfet> anyone have a dell e1505/6400, or really any laptop with an ati x1400 card, and has tried suspend-to-ram?
[02:32] <Warbo> !helpme
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <MattSta> do you know where i can a place to try it
[02:33] <npfet> (wanted to get an overall impression of how it works)
[02:33] <npfet> (how well it works rather...)
[02:33] <MattSta> yeah
[02:33] <usul> ok, i got a msg to go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org to upgrade to dapper, then theres nothing about upgrading on the page-- what gives?
[02:34] <ramonsa> dalphi, How do I go to single user mode to issue the umount command?
[02:34] <Milk_> good evening
[02:34] <Twinxor> usul, you can do apt-get dist-upgrade if you want to upgrade
[02:34] <Warbo> How do I change the root window when I log in? I use chbg, but it always starts out as Ubuntu brown stuff
[02:34] <pibe86> i bought an ati (video card) x550 pci express 256mb, and  i cant enter to ubuntu in grafic mode, any knows what to do to enter in grafic mode???
[02:35] <Twinxor> of course, that downloads a million packages and may break stuff
[02:35] <rixxon> "recover" didn't find any "inodes" so perhaps the files are already lost (i guess if some professional tried to recover them he might succeed better than "recover" but i doubt anyone will even care to look at my hard drive...)
[02:35] <Flippy209> Warbo; I'm getting errors with this command from your page : sudo echo "radeon" >> /etc/modules
[02:35] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, er, sorry... had something come up and I didn't see your response
[02:35] <Flippy209> permission denied
[02:35] <usul> Twinxor is that all?? why isnt there a page on the site about this?? youd think with all the trouble they go to making disks,
[02:35] <pibe86> i bought an ati (video card) x550 pci express 256mb, and  i cant enter to ubuntu in grafic mode, any knows what to do to enter in grafic mode???
[02:35] <usul> that they would make a link
[02:35] <Warbo> Flippy209: Just do "sudo nano /etc/modules" and put "radeon" at the end
[02:36] <Twinxor> really, the home page doesn't have any fanfare about it?
[02:36] <Milk_> Am I just being over sensitive, or does there seem to be a LOT of updates for a new release?
[02:36] <Twinxor> that's kind of silly
[02:36] <usul> Even a search for upgrade dapper gives nothinng of use!!!
[02:36] <pibe86> please!!
[02:36] <pibe86> please!!
[02:36] <pibe86> i bought an ati (video card) x550 pci express 256mb, and  i cant enter to ubuntu in grafic mode, any knows what to do to enter in grafic mode???
[02:36] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, the problem is in the prerm script. A hack would be to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm , and put exit 0 on the second line. Then, sudo apt-get remove --purge mldonkey-server. That should do the job
[02:36] <usul> isnt it obvious users are going to upgrade?
[02:36] <unforcer> hey.. what is the command where you see what type of ethernet connection is it 100Fulldublex or Gigabyte?
[02:36] <Twinxor> oh, so no upgrade-specific information?
[02:37] <Milk_> pibe86, I don't run ATI anymore, but I believe theres some info in the wiki about it
[02:37] <_Spire_> !ati
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <Twinxor> well, there's a wiki page or two about it if that's what you're looking for
[02:37] <pibe86> Milk_ wiki? wheress taht??
[02:37] <_Spire_> or this
[02:37] <_Spire_> !fglrx
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <_Spire_> hmm... now has the same thing
[02:37] <pibe86> thnaks
[02:38] <pibe86> i am gonna look
[02:38] <usul> So is there a page to upgrade anywhere??
[02:38] <Twinxor> usul, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:38] <Warbo> pibe86: A Wiki is a webpage which anyone can improve (I just added my own guide about an hour ago to the Ubuntu Wiki)
[02:38] <eugman> Can someone tell me how to request a key from a server using gpg?
[02:38] <Twinxor> I agree it should be more prominent
[02:38] <Milk_> pibe86, wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <PORDO> how do i change the default settings for new users as they are created?  i just edited "default" in "User Profile Editor", but it didn't work--I created a new user, and he has the standard ugly brown ubuntu look.
[02:39] <nickrud> eugman, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic has instructions at the top
[02:39] <Twinxor> it's not ugly, it's human
[02:39] <HellDragon> wow im playing tetris with noatun lol http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/175/snapshot48nq.png
[02:39] <PORDO> lol
[02:39] <eugman> thanks
[02:39] <PORDO> in any case, how do i make all those settings i took 10 minutes changing stick.
[02:40] <Warbo> PORDO: make a new user and set it up how you want default. Then copy every file beginning with a dot from their home into /etc/skel
[02:40] <usul> Twinxor thanks!! They should really point their users to the right page instead of making it so hard to find. Couldnt they turn it into a one-click upgrade, like they do for the updates^^
[02:40] <usul> ?
[02:40] <Sivik> nickrud, you still playing?
[02:40] <nickrud> Sivik, nah just tested it
[02:40] <Twinxor> well, it's a major upgrade - and in principle Breezy is still supported for a couple more years!
[02:41] <nickrud> Twinxor, less than a year left, actually
[02:41] <warlocky> how do i unmount the cd drive?
[02:41] <gustavor> what is the recommend or "official" IMAP solution for an ubuntu server?
[02:41] <warlocky> I cant seem to get the friggin CD out
[02:41] <warlocky> >.<
[02:41] <PORDO> Warbo should the permissions be set to root or anything particular?
[02:41] <Twinxor> ah well
[02:41] <nickrud> gustavor, dovecot is included in main, I guess that makes it the official one
[02:42] <warlocky> how do i unmount the cd drive?
[02:42] <Warbo> PORDO: I think you leave the permissions as they are for the user and the owner is automatically set. I would still make them owned by root though, since it seems "cleaner" to me
[02:42] <Sivik> warlocky, umount /mount/location
[02:42] <PORDO> you can now add your google calendar to your web page.  http://brokenladder.com/index.php?page=shows
[02:44] <Warbo> !vmware
[02:44] <ubotu> VMWare player is in the Ubuntu repositories. Install instructions for VMWare server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[02:44] <rigonatti> does anyone know why everytime I tri to run "make" got this error ?  make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[02:44] <Twinxor> boy howdy, I sure do love it when Xorg spikes to 98% CPU use
[02:45] <vanberge> would anybody be willing to offer me some assistance wiht playing movie files?  i dont understand because this worked yesterday.
[02:45] <samsonasu> rigonatti what are you trying to make
[02:45] <_Spire_> rigonatti: are you the folder where the source is?
[02:45] <Twinxor> I hate having a responsive system
[02:45] <vanberge> i get the following error from totem:  Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[02:45] <lufis> Hi... I read somewhere that it's possible to mix and match different things in the desktop environment. Like using a replacement for nautilus, for instance. Can someone direct me to some alternative apps for this?
[02:45] <ramonsa> dalphi i get "device busy" when I issue umount /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root from what I believe is single user mode (ie. <ctl> <alt> f3)).
[02:45] <samsonasu> vanberge i use www.videolan.org to play videos and it handles all the popular codecs
[02:45] <rigonatti> samsonasu ..im trying to instal the Synce projetc...I need to install the synce-rra ....btw.... ./bootstrap is ok ...../configure too ... but make give me this error
[02:45] <_Spire_> !xvid
[02:45] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:45] <warlocky> how do i see the current DHCP ip ?
[02:46] <Arafangi1n> warlocky: ifconfig
[02:46] <rigonatti> Arafangi1n  ifconfig
[02:46] <rixxon> don't terminal processes die on ^Z?
[02:46] <jrib> lufis: thunar might be one
[02:46] <_Spire_> warlocky: ifconfig
[02:46] <vanberge> samsonasu: cant i use totem though?
[02:46] <jrib> rixxon: suspended
[02:46] <rigonatti> rixxon  try ^C
[02:46] <lufis> jrib: Thanks!
[02:46] <warlocky> thanks, and how do i unmount the cd-drive? it doesnt work with unmount /mount/cd
[02:46] <Arafangi1n> rigonatti: Man, you're _slow_ :)
[02:46] <Twinxor> lufis, what in particular are you looking to replace - the window manager, the file manager, etc?
[02:46] <_Spire_> rixxon: i thought ^C
[02:46] <vanberge> its just so frustrating because it worked yesterday!
[02:46] <rixxon> jrib: well i have a 'ping google' still running (sleeping) from like yesterday!
[02:46] <rigonatti> ops.....=/
[02:46] <lufis> Twinxor: Nothing really, I just wanted to experiment and find the best combination
[02:47] <rixxon> ^C don't always work, can be overriden etc
[02:47] <protocol2> rigonatti, you need to specify what it is you want to make and where you want it to go
[02:47] <Twinxor> running other window managers on GNOME is a little hilarious
[02:47] <rigonatti> protocol2 i see a makefile.am ...is that file ?
[02:47] <lufis> Twinxor: Ha, how do you mean?
[02:47] <warlocky> thanks, and how do i unmount the cd-drive? it doesnt work with unmount /mount/cd
[02:47] <Twinxor> well, it makes the integrated desktop environment a complete mishmash
[02:47] <warlocky> Anyone? gnomefreak
[02:48] <GUARDiAN|nb> ok, i found that i can remap mousebuttons using xmodmap... now the problem is: i'm using a notebook, and i want to use the additional buttons on an usb-mouse that's not always connected
[02:48] <Twinxor> it might work better, but it just looks funny
[02:48] <lufis> Twinxor: Ah, I see. So you wouldn't recommend it?
[02:48] <protocol2> your asking the wrong person.....you might want to ask someone familiar with make
[02:48] <Twinxor> nah, play around with it for fun
[02:48] <jrib> lufis: ctrl-z sends SIGSTOP
[02:48] <warlocky> How do i unmount the cd drive so i can get the CD out of the server? <- ANYONE ?
[02:48] <protocol2> i just know how it works in general
[02:48] <Twinxor> warlocky, umount?
[02:48] <lufis> jrib: What?
[02:48] <Sivik> warlocky: sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[02:48] <rigonatti> Anyone....Does anyone here sync a Pocket PC with Linux ??
[02:48] <mcrandello_> warlocky: is there a cd icon on the desktop?
[02:49] <warlocky> I use dapper server
[02:49] <mcrandello_> oh
[02:49] <GUARDiAN|nb> as far as i understand, the xmodmap does only work on the inputdevice that has the "CorePointer"-option, but if i add this option to xorg.conf for the external mouse it won't start x when the mouse isn't connected...
[02:49] <warlocky> root@zkillz:~# umount /dev/cdrom
[02:49] <warlocky> umount: /dev/cdrom: not mounted
[02:49] <warlocky> hmpfh ?
[02:49] <Warbo> What exactly has changed with all of the documentation stuff?
[02:49] <warlocky> I cant seem to get the cd out ^^,
[02:49] <mcrandello_> type "umount /dev/cd" and then hit tab
[02:49] <jrib> lufis: maybe it will make more sense if you run a program, press ctrl-z and try to use the program
[02:50] <lufis> Jrib: Ok...
[02:50] <warlocky> Yeah i did
[02:50] <warlocky> got cdrom
[02:50] <_Spire_> rigonatti:  it should be Makefile not Makefile.am
[02:50] <warlocky> didnt work
[02:50] <warlocky> :E
[02:50] <rixxon> warlocky: uh try /media/cdrom or cdrom0
[02:50] <ramonsa> bye!
[02:50] <jrib> lufis: it's like a pause button
[02:50] <Twinxor> damn, any reason Xorg is using so much CPU?
[02:50] <Twinxor> it just goes nuts sometimes!
[02:50] <_Spire_> rigonatti: try reading the 'readme' file or typing 'sudo automake'
[02:50] <Twinxor> maybe I need real video drivers
[02:50] <rigonatti> _Spire_ Makefile returns command not found
[02:51] <rigonatti> _Spire_ the readme file just show to run make ..then make install
[02:51] <_Spire_> rigonatti: hmm
[02:51] <_Spire_> rigonatti: did you try automake?
[02:51] <vanberge> would somebody please offer me help playing avi files with totem?   i've done the restricted formats tutorial off the wiki and still cannot play these files
[02:51] <rigonatti> _Spire_ automake returns nothing ...
[02:51] <rixxon> vanberge: try vlc or mplayer
[02:52] <ramon> ola
[02:52] <_Spire_> rigonatti: one more thing: post the output of "whereis automake"
[02:52] <KevinIN72> Does Mysql start up when ubuntu starts??
[02:52] <vanberge> rixxon: i'd rather fix the underlying issue vs. trying different apps...  :-(
[02:52] <rixxon> vanberge: pf. :(
[02:52] <rigonatti> automake: /usr/bin/automake /usr/bin/X11/automake /usr/share/automake /usr/share/man/man1/automake.1.gz
[02:53] <vanberge> rixxon: there must be some reason why it is not working, right?
[02:53] <rixxon> vanberge: sure you did everything in RestrictedFormats? seems to work for most other people
[02:53] <vanberge> rixxon: yes.... because i could play this same movie file yesterday
[02:53] <vanberge> but i cannot today
[02:53] <rixxon> vanberge: oops :)
[02:53] <_Spire_> rigonatti: then try 'sudo automake'
[02:54] <vanberge> rixxon: i even went back through and re-did the steps
[02:54] <rigonatti> _ Spire_    i had...no error return
[02:54] <rixxon> vanberge: uh *stupid idea* perhaps something screwed up the packages, try reinstall them? :S
[02:54] <rixxon> vanberge: oh
[02:54] <Sivik> nickrud: could you send me a nwn thats the executiable?
[02:54] <_Spire_> rigonatti: now try make
[02:54] <pibe86> thanks a lot i am going to do it then tell you
[02:54] <pibe86> bye
[02:54] <rigonatti> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[02:54] <vanberge> rixxon:  would installing totem-xine package mess up something?
[02:54] <hexagene> hi there
[02:54] <_Spire_> rigonatti: uh oh.
[02:54] <vanberge> i think thats where it went wrong
[02:55] <rixxon> vanberge: it might? i mean i guess it is possible?
[02:55] <_Spire_> rigonatti: I feel a bit stupid... I just had an idea
[02:55] <rixxon> vanberge: anyways, i doubt i'll be able to help you, i'm basically a beginner
[02:55] <hexagene> has anyone had problems with bad character output in GCC error messages (dapper + gcc 4.0.3)
[02:55] <_Spire_> rigonatti: try running ./configure
[02:55] <rigonatti> i had....works fine...
[02:55] <vanberge> thank you rixxon.  :-)
[02:55] <MTecknology> I got rid of my Windows partition... How can I change Ubuntu to be on hda1 instead of hda2, How do I make Ubuntu take up my whole hard drive, How do I edit my grub menu???
[02:55] <dooglus> rigonatti: what are you trying to build?
[02:56] <_Spire_> !grub
[02:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[02:56] <rigonatti> dooglus...its a module to synce =/  Gnome isnt soo fine :(
[02:56] <dooglus> rigonatti: I don't understand 'synce'
[02:56] <Twinxor> oh, ubotu is a pretty cool idea
[02:56] <Twinxor> !ubotu
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:56] <vanberge> does the restrictedformats tutorial include Xvid encoded videos??
[02:56] <Twinxor> hehe, neat
[02:56] <rigonatti> its a tar.gz file .....a module to another app
[02:56] <apokryphos> vanberge: yes
[02:57] <dooglus> rigonatti: can you pastebin a directory listing?
[02:57] <rixxon> vanberge: sure you read it? :P
[02:57] <rigonatti> then ....i follow the readme isntructions.... ./bootstrap ..then ./configure ...but then make give a error
[02:57] <Sivik> nickrud, you still around?
[02:57] <KevinIN72> does anyone here use webmin at all
[02:57] <vanberge> apokryphos: sorry i am just frustrated
[02:57] <vanberge> i have been struggling with this for like 2 hours
[02:57] <dooglus> rigonatti: does ./configure give any errors?
[02:57] <rigonatti> no...runs fine ...
[02:58] <dooglus> rigonatti: it should create "Makefile" but it doesn't.
[02:58] <ic56> MTecknology: the simplest solution is to leave the ubuntu installation where it is and to use the space previously pointed to by hda1 as an extra filesystem to be mounted under your existing setup.
[02:58] <paradizelost> hey all, how do i change the max file size in apache? i'm trying to have the dapper DVD iso available, but it doesn't show.
[02:58] <dooglus> rigonatti: doesn't it say "creating Makefile" towards the end?
[02:58] <rigonatti> well.. i see a makefile.am ...and a makefile.in
[02:58] <rigonatti> nope
[02:58] <dooglus> rigonatti: sure, but you need a Makefile.  configure should create makefile from makefile.in
[02:58] <ic56> MTecknology: the right solution, ultimately depends on your existing disk layout and your intended disk consumption for different tasks
[02:59] <dooglus> rigonatti: do you see 'makefile'?
[02:59] <tomsdimension> does anybody know a filesytem that is compatible with win and linux other than fat32
[02:59] <dooglus> tomsdimension: fat16
[02:59] <rigonatti> nope....
[02:59] <paradizelost> ext2&3
[02:59] <paradizelost> with the driver
[02:59] <_Spire_> tomsdimension: ntfs to a slight extent
[02:59] <tomsdimension> something where i dont have to install a driver
[02:59] <MTecknology> ic56, I already have nothing in that space now... I wanted to expand my Ubuntu partition to fill the HD and use w/e I need for a Windows image for qemu
[02:59] <tomsdimension> i have a portable hd
[02:59] <paradizelost> tomsdimension: then your out of options
[03:00] <Flippy209> horray readon video drivers
[03:00] <rigonatti> Im almost givin up of Gnome.... KDE seem to have better solutions :(
[03:00] <dooglus> rigonatti: can you paste the output of './confugire'?
[03:00] <Flippy> that's better
[03:00] <Sivik> nickrud, what does it mean when it can't load the module nor unpack the module
[03:00] <ic56> MTecknology: what is "w/e"?
[03:00] <MTecknology> what ever
[03:00] <samsonasu> flippy i know what you mean i just got my nvidia drivers installed
[03:00] <Sivik> nickrud, nvm
[03:00] <goudkov> hi guys. is there a way to tell rsync to stick to only one file system? so when I specify / as the source, it would not go into /proc /sys /dev/shm etc.
[03:00] <paradizelost> How do i enable large files in apache?
[03:00] <Flippy> took some messing
[03:00] <samsonasu> it looks way better already
[03:00] <MusicEatingPanda> how do i stop a update warning on somthing i wish to not update
[03:00] <samsonasu> really?  mine i just installed the package and it worked like magic
[03:00] <vanberge> FINALLY IT WORKS
[03:01] <samsonasu> its gonna take some messing to get my second monitor up though ill bet
[03:01] <rigonatti> dooglus I dont know if is a good idea...to much work for just one app ..
[03:01] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, that did the trick, thanks
[03:01] <vanberge> i re-installed libgxine and its fixed
[03:01] <mortal5> I have a problem, screen isn't passing the F2 key to vim
[03:01] <rigonatti> can someone help me to unistall gnome and put KDE ?
[03:01] <dooglus> rigonatti: ok, it's up to you.
[03:01] <Flippy> well I had the package from ATI but I am trying out Warbos method
[03:01] <rigonatti> txs anyway dooglus ...real txs!
[03:01] <rigonatti> can someone help me to unistall gnome and put KDE ?
[03:01] <Flippy> hey warbo, I had a question about the tweaking that you did on the wiki page
[03:02] <dooglus> rigonatti: that'll be more work than compiling one program
[03:02] <rigonatti> dooglus at least i will have synce working .. :D
[03:02] <cvp> I have a music library that is named in the format "Uknown Artist - [Actual Artist]  - [Song] ". Is there a quick CLA command I can use to chop off the "Uknown Artist - " portions instead of going through every song individually?
[03:02] <Flippy> bah nvm direct rendering = no
[03:02] <ic56> MTecknology: there is no need to expand your ubuntu partition -- unless you are concerned about internal fragmentation.  You probably don't know what that is, so I stand by my answer: create a ext3 filesystem in /dev/hda1 and just mount it in Ubuntu.
[03:03] <Aesop> Ok, so. Dual-monitor setup, 1 monitor is displaying the correct resolution of 1280x1024, the second is supposed to be at that. Last week it stepped down to 1024/860- and for it's 860-620
[03:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:03] <Sivik> is there a way to remove a folder and move the files to the main folder, all with one command?
[03:03] <Aesop> Anyi deas on whats causing this and how I fix it?
[03:03] <KevinIN72> anyone have a good web accese app
[03:03] <NK`> hi anyone can told how we can do to fix a segfault in /usr/bin/prename when we can't reinstall perl because perl prename is using perl and dpkg is using prename ?
[03:03] <Sivik> KevinIN72, are you talking about like app
[03:03] <cvp> KevinIN72: ...firefox?
[03:03] <Aesop> KevinIN72, Web access app... Like Firefox?
[03:03] <KevinIN72> no
[03:03] <mcrandello_> Sivik: mv /foo/folder/* /foo/ && rm -rf /foo/folder/
[03:03] <slugicide> Can someone give me a link which shows me how to network a windows and ubuntu machine over wireless?
[03:04] <KevinIN72> so i can managed the server over the web
[03:04] <Sivik> ok
[03:04] <Aesop> KevinIN72, manage a Ubuntu server?
[03:04] <mcrandello_> maybe copy them somewhere first in case that nukes things
[03:04] <EnsignRedshirt> If anyone here is familiar with routing tables (especially when using a VPN pptp tunnel), take a look at this table and see if anything is obviously wrong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16047
[03:04] <KevinIN72> yeah web manage
[03:04] <Aesop> KevinIN72, SSH is pretty good for that
[03:04] <cvp> I have a music library that is named in the format "Uknown Artist - [Actual Artist]  - [Song] ". Is there a quick CLA command I can use to chop off the "Uknown Artist - " portions instead of going through every song individually?
[03:04] <MTecknology> ic56, I know what fragmentation is, and I do like keeping everything in one place
[03:04] <KevinIN72> Aesop: SSH, can you help me a little
[03:04] <Aesop> cvp, you could probably write a shell script for that...
[03:05] <Flippy>  mean ??
[03:05] <Flippy> sorry
[03:05] <Aesop> KevinIN72, first you need to install the SSH server and open it up on your firewall
[03:05] <cvp> Aesop, what would it look like?
[03:05] <cvp> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:05] <thenetduck> hey when you install a program with apt-get install where does it sinstall the program to?
[03:05] <thenetduck> like it what file directory
[03:05] <dooglus> rigonatti: what is the URL of the .tar.gz you try to build?
[03:05] <cvp> KevinIN72: then reboot
[03:05] <KevinIN72> ok hold on
[03:05] <Twinxor> rigonatti, get kubuntu-desktop and lose ubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <Twinxor> thenetduck, use synaptic to browse installed packeages
[03:05] <Aesop> KevinIN72, that would be it =D Then, on another computer, simply use an SSH client to connect to the IP address
[03:05] <mcrandello_> actually rm -rf is definitely a little unsafe in that application, rmdir I think will complain if the dir is not empty first
[03:05] <Twinxor> they're installed to many places on the system
[03:05] <thenetduck> Twinxor i im working on a server
[03:06] <Aesop> cvp, I have no idea, but I'm working on it
[03:06] <ic56> MTecknology: how is mounting /dev/hda1 as your new /home or /var or something not "keeping everything in one place"?
[03:06] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok thanks much if i have more problems ill holler
[03:06] <cvp> Aesop: it would involve tricksy use of wild characters, I'd imagine
[03:06] <vanberge> is it normal for Banshee to 'skip' on mp3's ??
[03:06] <MTecknology> ic56, because you freakin lost me
[03:06] <thenetduck> Twinxor well what file are they usally installed to ..im asking because i set up gnump3d and want to add pasword, but have to add .pasword files to the directories
[03:06] <Aesop> cvp, Why not just say 'If string = 'Unknown Artist" then replace with " <blank>"
[03:06] <cvp> vanberge: it is normal for any music-playing software that isn't xmms to suck
[03:07] <MTecknology> ic56, o, ok
[03:07] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: Test this first, but something like:  rename 's/Unknown Artist //' *
[03:07] <Aesop> cvp, I think that it's a part of the ID3 tag, and then the [Actual Artist]  is on the filename
[03:07] <dooglus> cvp: beep-media-player sucks a little less than xmms
[03:07] <Twinxor> thenetduck, they're installed to a lot of places
[03:07] <dooglus> cvp: beep-media-player sucks a little less than xmms
[03:07] <Aesop> cvp, Meaning that EnsignRedshirt's idea probably won't work.
[03:07] <Twinxor> for instance, binaries may go anywhere on you $PATH
[03:08] <vanberge> cvp: i was attracted to banshee for its ipod capability
[03:08] <mcrandello_> mv foo/files/* foo/ && rmdir foo/files is  a safer bet
[03:08] <MTecknology> ic56, I would prefer not having to worry about how much space I am using on one partition - I will be putting multiple operating system images on this HD
[03:08] <Firebird8> how do u list the current processes by console?
[03:08] <mikebot> can anyone recommend a good wireless mouse and keyboard?
[03:08] <dooglus> Firebird8: ps
[03:08] <Aesop> mikebot, Logitech MX1000 mouse
[03:08] <cvp> Firebird8: ps
[03:08] <Warbo> Dammit, missed Flippy
[03:08] <ic56> MTecknology: the more important question is how you do backups.  What is your backup device and will the content of each of your filesystems fit in your backup media?
[03:08] <Aesop> mikebot, keyboard is a bit harder
[03:08] <cvp> mikebot: Logitech
[03:09] <mikebot> thanks for the mouse info
[03:09] <Aesop> Actually, don't use the MX1000, it's having problems with Dapper
[03:09] <mikebot> are there any good wireless keyboards?
[03:09] <mikebot> oh really?
[03:09] <Aesop> Logitech makes some good ones, but I've never used them
[03:09] <apokryphos> mikebot: logitech's nice, yes.
[03:09] <MTecknology> ic56, I do image backups across a network onto a different computer and document backups to CD's and flash media
[03:09] <Aesop> Yeah, it's a pain to configure the MX1000, I've only got about half my buttons working at the moment.
[03:09] <mikebot> how many buttons does it have?
[03:09] <Aesop> Ok, so. Dual-monitor setup, 1 monitor is displaying the correct resolution of 1280x1024, the second is supposed to be at that. Last week it stepped down to 1024/860- and for it's 860-620. Anyone got some ideas?
[03:09] <mikebot> i just need a wireless with a 2 buttons and wheel
[03:10] <Aesop> Mike- Linux recognizes it as 12, lemme gount...
[03:10] <mikebot> and i guess the mouse3 button
[03:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Aesop, cvp: I think I missed a bit of your conversation.  Was the gist that 'Unknown Artist ' is not actually part of the file name?
[03:10] <Aesop> 12 if you cant the wheel as two buttons
[03:10] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, cvp, That's what makes sense to me
[03:10] <cwillu> help!:  smb used to work (incl across reboots), but stopped this last time (and subsequently won't start working);  mount /mnt/office now complains about not being installed suid root, sudo /mnt/office seems to work, but the mount only shows a bunch of files named 'a', 'A', 'b', 'B', 'c', etc
[03:11] <Aesop> 12 if you COUNT* the wheel as two buttons
[03:11] <ic56> MTecknology: so, will the dump from enlarged filesystem that would occupy the space of both your existing hda1 and hda2 be too big to fit on 1 CD?
[03:11] <mcrandello_> Sooo has anyone tried the updated ati drivers?
[03:11] <cvp> EnsignRedshirt, Aesop: the filename included the "Unknown Artist", not the ID3 tags
[03:11] <MTecknology> ic56, dump???
[03:11] <mcrandello_> they don't want to compile :(
[03:11] <cwillu> cat /var/lob/dpkg doesn't show any activity relating to smb or samba since I installed it the first time a month ago or so
[03:11] <ic56> MTecknology: dump = backup
[03:11] <Zambezi> Is it possible to search on packages just beginning with rar?
[03:11] <Aesop> cvp, then EnsignRedshirt's method will work
[03:11] <MTecknology> ic56, very much so
[03:11] <mikebot> Aesop, well, is logitech the only place i should look for decent wireless input devices?
[03:11] <L-----D> Aesop: MX1000 with problem? I'm just thinking about replace my old MX700 with it
[03:12] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: You can add the option -n to the rename command to test what would happen, without actually renaming anything.
[03:12] <cvp> Aesop: actually, yours did, with the rename 's//Unknown Artist //' *
[03:12] <xpc> !hu
[03:12] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[03:12] <Aesop> L-----D, mikebot, if I put enoguh time into getting it to work again, I probably could, but I can't get XEV to acknowledge the buttons
[03:12] <xpc> !hu
[03:12] <cvp> I didn't try EnsignRedshirt's
[03:12] <cvp> But I'll play around with it in case I need to do it in the future.
[03:12] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: I think that was mine :)
[03:12] <ic56> MTecknology: then such a filesystem would be too big for you.  I take it you only have a single root filesystem now?  and it's physically on /dev/hda2?
[03:12] <Aesop> cvp, EnsignRedshirt, Glad to be of help, but I didn't offer any actual code... >.>
[03:12] <cvp> EnsignRedshirt: Oh, okay, then thanks!
[03:13] <xpc> !hu
[03:13] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[03:13] <MTecknology> ic56, yep
[03:13] <cvp> Anyway, yeah, thanks to you too, Aesop.
[03:13] <Zambezi> Is unrar-nonfree renamned?
[03:13] <Twinxor> !ja
[03:13] <MTecknology> ic56, starts in the middle of my HD
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ja
[03:13] <Twinxor> JAAAA
[03:13] <L-----D> Aesop: which buttons?
[03:13] <jrib> Zambezi: it's just unrar now I think
[03:13] <Twinxor> !ubuntu
[03:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:13] <ic56> MTecknology: and this is a personal system? The kind where most of the data is personal and therefore would be stored in /home/MTecknology ?
[03:13] <Aesop> L-----D, annoyingly, the side buttons. Meaning no forward-back in Firefox.
[03:13] <mikebot> Aesop, ok, thanks fvor your help
[03:13] <Flippy> well Warbo, that didn't work so well. :\
[03:13] <Twinxor> !internet
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about internet
[03:13] <keleus> is there a way to make /dev/hdc STAY +x? (it resets every reboot and my WINE programs dont like it without +x)
[03:14] <Twinxor> !nothing
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[03:14] <Zambezi> jrib, I thought so, but I got a couple of 100 hits when I tried rar in apt-get.
[03:14] <Twinxor> sorry, I'll stop
[03:14] <L-----D> Aesop: oh~ that's painful
[03:14] <MTecknology> ic56, yes, except for my operating systems
[03:14] <Zambezi> jrib, And nothing with rar-nonfree
[03:14] <NickGarvey> Twinxor: !anything is funnier ;)
[03:14] <Aesop> Does anyone have experience with Dual-Head monitor setups? Got a resolution problem
[03:14] <Twinxor> !anything
[03:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[03:14] <Aesop> L-----D, yeah, I usually get it ALMOST fixed then I break it again. -_-
[03:14] <warlocky> lol
[03:14] <ic56> MTecknology: ok. What are the relative sizes of hda1 and hda2?
[03:15] <warlocky> how do i check the bandwidth on ubuntu 5.10 server? I need to see my incomming/outgoing
[03:15] <Aesop> Twinxor, somehow that seems like bad grammar...
[03:15] <ic56> MTecknology: ok. how big are hda1 and hda2 right now?
[03:15] <Twinxor> keleus, yes there's a way
[03:15] <KevinIN72> Aesop: what do you mean by ssh client??
[03:15] <fish831> can someone help with setting up the built in wireless on a laptop (SIS 163)
[03:15] <cwillu> keleus: that sounds fishy;  do you actually have wine set up to directly use the device, rather than a mount?
[03:15] <Aesop> KevinIN72, are you planning to access it from a Windows or a Linux box?
[03:15] <warlocky> how do i check my incomming/outgoing bandwidth ?
[03:15] <tek> warlocky : nload for example in text mode
[03:15] <KevinIN72> Aesop: windwows
[03:15] <buzzcap> Why use Ubuntu instead of Debian?
[03:15] <jinho> Hi, is it possible to change the boot order of GRUB so that Windows comes first (my dad, whose comp illiterate, needs to use windows, which Is why I need to do this)- help is much appreciated
[03:15] <KevinIN72> Aesop: windows*
[03:15] <warlocky> "nload" tek ?
[03:15] <keleus> cwillu, yea. the program disk is safedisc2 protected and requires executable permission on the device
[03:15] <jinho> I'd like windows to automatically load if you wait long enough
[03:16] <Aesop> fish831, Wireless cards can be very tricky, please offer more information (Make of card, chipset if you know it)
[03:16] <cwillu> jinho: peek at the files in /boot I believe
[03:16] <Twinxor> keleus, adapt the directions in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[03:16] <tek> yep, it draw you a text graph with the network traffic
[03:16] <EnsignRedshirt> buzzcap: Fewer flames in the irc channel...
[03:16] <warlocky> root@warlock-AB:~# uname -r
[03:16] <warlocky> 2.6.12-9-686
[03:16] <Twinxor> !ntfs
[03:16] <warlocky> Is that dapper or not ? :/
[03:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:16] <MTecknology> Blank(27.17) hda2(27.17) Swap(1.55)
[03:16] <jinho> cwillu: I have- but I dont want to f-up my comp so that it doesnt start
[03:16] <apokryphos> buzzcap: /msg ubotu debian
[03:16] <Aesop> KevinIN72, Goto Google and search for 'SSH Client', find one that's free. I can't think of any off the top of my head
[03:16] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok
[03:16] <cwillu> jinho:
[03:16] <MTecknology> ic56, Blank(27.17) hda2(27.17) Swap(1.55)
[03:16] <Aesop> KevinIN72, SSH will give you a terminal access to the machine
[03:16] <cwillu> bah, fair enough :p
[03:16] <NickGarvey> warlocky: that looks like breezy
[03:16] <keleus> Twinxor, ty
[03:16] <warlocky> thanks god ^_^
[03:16] <tek> warlocky : apt-get install nload
[03:16] <MTecknology> ic56, I would be better off resizing my hda2 to about 15G and leave the rest for OS's
[03:16] <warlocky> tek, ok
[03:16] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ew terminal
[03:17] <MTecknology> ic56, either way, I need to resize
[03:17] <ic56> MTecknology: are all these in MB?  The numbers don't seem right
[03:17] <warlocky> how to i use it tek ?
[03:17] <Twinxor> keleus, that doesn't do exactly what you want, but you should be able to figure it out
[03:17] <fish831> aesop: i know the wireless device is a SIS 163 it's built in with a usb connection
[03:17] <Aesop> KevinIN72, that's the most effecient way to access it.
[03:17] <warlocky> nevermind :-o
[03:17] <Sivik> nickrud, your lucky
[03:17] <cwillu> jinho:  /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file you're looking for
[03:17] <tek> warlocky : and after nload eth0
[03:17] <Aesop> fish831, Who makes it?
[03:17] <cwillu> same idea as c:/boot.ini on windows
[03:17] <nickrud> Sivik, no,you are. I just sat down 10 seconds ago
[03:17] <buzzcap> Are "free" and "open" the same thing?
[03:17] <apokryphos> buzzcap: no
[03:17] <KevinIN72> Aesop: is there like a java thing i can use
[03:17] <Sivik> nickrud: be happy that you have nwn working
[03:17] <warlocky> OK, tek, if i run 100/100mbit, how much should it have ?
[03:17] <Aesop> Doh.
[03:17] <buzzcap> apokryphos, what is the difference?
[03:17] <Aesop> buzzcap, No
[03:17] <MTecknology> ic56, those are Gigs
[03:17] <tek> warlocky : you can start it on boot on a console (without login)
[03:17] <Aesop> buzzcap, 'Free' as in Beer, 'Open' as in speech
[03:17] <keleus> Twinxor, seems completely unrelated... as it is i need to do "sudo chmod ug+x /dev/cdrom" for cdrom, cdrw, and dvd
[03:18] <Aesop> KevinIN72, there are commercial alternatives, but they can get expensive
[03:18] <ic56> MTecknology: 1.55 GB for swap?  Really?!
[03:18] <locao> hey, guys, I want to add another nic to my computer, but I'm having some trouble. Can anybody help me?
[03:18] <apokryphos> Aesop: no, there's more to it than that
[03:18] <cwillu> jinho: should be able to just move the 4 lines to do with the windows boot to the order you want
[03:18] <fish831> aesop: hold on one sec, I'll get you the webpage
[03:18] <Warbo> buzzcap: Free can mean gratis or libre, and Open can mean available or redistributable
[03:18] <apokryphos> buzzcap: one sec
[03:18] <buzzcap> Aesop, that definition seems somewhat flawed
[03:18] <Aesop> apokryphos, That's what I liek to call the 'easy version'
[03:18] <KevinIN72> Aesop: have you ever heard of webmin??
[03:18] <jinho> cwillu: is that it?
[03:18] <tek> for 100mbit network ... humm I don't know precisely
[03:18] <samsonasu> ok I got my 2 monitors working does anybody know how to switch which one is primary?
[03:18] <buzzcap> Warbo, gratis and libre are different
[03:18] <apokryphos> Aesop: it's incorrect :)
[03:18] <warlocky> tek, join #warlock.outcomming - i'll show you how it looks atm
[03:18] <Warbo> buzzcap: Exactly, each has 2 meanings
[03:18] <MTecknology> ic56, I felt ambitious
[03:18] <apokryphos> buzzcap: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[03:18] <cwillu> jinho: I believe so
[03:18] <keleus> Twinxor, i have a feeling i can do it in /etc/udev/rules.d but i cant figure the files out
[03:18] <apokryphos> that is: Why ``Free Software'' is better than ``Open Source''
[03:18] <warlocky> !pastebin
[03:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho:
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho: nevermind, actually do it this way
[03:19] <buzzcap> apokryphos, thank you.
[03:19] <Sivik> nickrud: i'm going to attempt to install via the cds and try and run the update again
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho: on one the entries, there's a "savedefault" line
[03:19] <Aesop> KevinIN72, Yeah. Shouldn't be too hard to install. I personally prefer SSH
[03:19] <cwillu> jinho: move it to the windows entry
[03:19] <locao> I have loaded my new nic driver, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig, can anybody help me?
[03:19] <nickrud> Sivik, a sec, there's a howto on nwn, I'll see if I recognize the one I used
[03:19] <keleus> i see this: ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*",                    GROUP="cdrom"
[03:19] <keleus> but i dont see anything that would let me change the actual permissions
[03:19] <EnsignRedshirt> If anyone know a bit about routing, especially for configuring a pptp vpn tunnel, take a look here and tell me if you see anything obviously wrong with the routing table:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16047
[03:20] <fish831> aesop: the wireless card is made by a company called sis http://www.sis.com/products/sis163.htm
[03:20] <Aesop> apokryphos, What's wrong about it? You have 'Free', which can be either as in 'Free Beer' or 'Free Speech', and 'Open', which means that you can access the source code, generally redistribute it, and modify it, thus it can also be said to be 'Free Speech'
[03:20] <ic56> MTecknology: that much space for swap isn't ambition.  It's telling yourself that are willing to keep running even if things crawl to a halt.  Anyway, you say you want room for other OSs.  How much space will you reserve for that?
[03:20] <Aesop> fish831, OK, lemme takea  look at it for a sec.
[03:20] <Sivik> nickrud, ok
[03:20] <keleus> aaah i see how to do it
[03:21] <keleus> ENV{ID_CDROM=="?*",     MODE="####"
[03:21] <MTecknology> ic56, these OS's will be within an image and held within my Ubuntu partition
[03:21] <apokryphos> Aesop: you said "free as in beer", "open as in speech". Saying "free software" does *not* mean "free as in beer", it means free as in liberty/speech
[03:21] <keleus> just i need to figure out the octal for r-xr-xr--
[03:21] <cwillu> EnsignRedshirt: can you still ping the endpoint when connected?
[03:21] <apokryphos> Aesop: as defined by fsf; /msg ubotu fsf
[03:22] <Aesop> apokryphos, but when used in conjuntion with 'open' to represent free speech it can be taken in context to mean the 'free as in beer' part of the common saying.
[03:22] <ic56> MTecknology: in which directory will that image be stored?  how big will the image be?
[03:22] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok how do i start up mysql?
[03:22] <OniAnubis> so, whats the difference between free as in beer and free as in speech
[03:22] <Aesop> KevinIN72, if you installed it with Synaptic it should start automatically
[03:22] <LoneShadow> anyone running multiple "linux" distros on a single machine ?
[03:22] <apokryphos> Aesop: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[03:22] <matthew_w> How would i make a program load at boot time/
[03:22] <MTecknology> ic56, probably /opersys
[03:22] <Aesop> apokryphos, I've read it
[03:22] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok
[03:22] <elliptic> keleus: 554
[03:22] <vanberge> would anybody have any ideas at all for me to attempt an make Banshee not 'skip' ?
[03:22] <EnsignRedshirt> cwillu: The problem is that most of the time, within a few seconds of connecting, it starts sending thousands of packets.  The pptpclient web page says this might be the result of a loop in the routing, but I don't know enough to see it.
[03:23] <apokryphos> Aesop: then you know that "free software" is more than being free as in price and open
[03:23] <nickrud> Sivik, I'm almost positive this was the one: http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=391386&forum=72
[03:23] <jighead> i'm getting seg faults when when doing updates, it's hanging up on the update to libgtk2.0-bin, specifically when gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders runs, it bombs, any ideas?
[03:23] <ic56> MTecknology: and how much space will it need?
[03:23] <cwillu> matthew_w: peek at /etc/rc...
[03:23] <nickrud> 99 44/100% sure
[03:23] <Aesop> apokryphos, Didn't I already say that?
[03:23] <apokryphos> Aesop: nope
[03:23] <EnsignRedshirt> cwillu: However, there have been three or four occasions where that routing worked.  Maybe a timing thing?
[03:23] <MTecknology> ic56, between 10 and 50 Gigs
[03:23] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Hyphens.
[03:23] <Aesop> fish831, I -think- that the wireless drivers at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ should work.
[03:24] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Fucking hyphens.
[03:24] <matthew_w> cwillu' the file /etc/rc does not exist
[03:24] <Aesop> fish831, you might have to use the Windows Driver workaround, and I can't remember what it's called.
[03:24] <Sivik> nickrud, but i don't have just 4 dics, i have 2 normal install cds, a play cd, then the first expansion cd and the second expansiion cd
[03:24] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: They're named, after all, "Unknown Artist - [artist]  - [song] "
[03:24] <cwillu> matthew_w:  there's a bunch of folders named rc0.d, rc1.d, etc
[03:24] <nickrud> Sivik, I had only the first expansion
[03:24] <Aesop> apokryphos, Quote: "Aesop |  apokryphos, What's wrong about it? You have 'Free', which can be either as in 'Free Beer' or 'Free Speech', and 'Open', which means that you can access the source code, generally redistribute it, and modify it, thus it can also be said to be 'Free Speech" Endquote
[03:24] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: I'm getting names like "- [artist]  - [song] "
[03:25] <matthew_w> cwillu; and... what the heck are they,  and how do I apply them
[03:25] <Aesop> cvp, include the - at the end of the search string
[03:25] <paq> hmmm... what is the opposite of "to require"?
[03:25] <nickrud> Sivik, like I said, slash & burn install method. Maybe I did get lucky.
[03:25] <Aesop> cvp, Include the space after it for good measure
[03:25] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: And now you want to get rid of the leading hyphens?
[03:25] <ic56> MTecknology: how about using hda1 as your /opersys ? At 27GB it's in the middle of your expected disk consumption range.  And it's the least amount of work to setup.
[03:25] <Sivik> nickrud, lucky
[03:25] <Sivik> nickrud, i will try some other stuff
[03:25] <fish831> aesop: I'll give it a shot... thanks for your help
[03:25] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: What Aesop said...
[03:25] <cvp> Aesop: I tried, and it was giving me crap about parameters
[03:25] <matthew_w> So, yeah, how do I use /etc/rc... to make stuff start on boot?
[03:25] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, cvp, ooh, yeah, it's gonna be tricky because if he just tacks it on, it'l get rid of the one between 'artist' and 'title' too
[03:26] <elliptic> matthew_w: read /etc/init.d/README, /etc/init.d/skeleton and man update-rc.d
[03:26] <dbglt> is there a ubuntu package for xvidcap?
[03:26] <EnsignRedshirt> Aesop, cvp: It sounds like the files have already been renamed, and now that all start with a hyphen.
[03:26] <Aesop> dbglt, is it in the repositories?
[03:26] <eclypse> I'm getting an FGLRX error, Error: unable to open display :0
[03:26] <eclypse> any ideas?
[03:26] <nickrud> matthew_w, just add a call to the script you want run to /etc/rc.local
[03:26] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: I wasn't stupid enough to try the whole library... I still have the majority of my songs as "Unknown Artist - *"
[03:26] <MTecknology> ic56, I would prefer just resize because I will very likely peak over 40G
[03:26] <eclypse> please don't ignore
[03:26] <eclypse> I'm sick of being ignored
[03:26] <EnsignRedshirt> s/that all/they all/
[03:26] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, yeah, so if he jsut does a search for hyphens it'll be bad
[03:26] <matthew_w> nickrud; so just write a command in there and it's good?
[03:26] <eclypse> things started going bad after I attempted to run XGl...
[03:26] <dbglt> Aesop: nothing in repose to my apt-cache searche for it
[03:27] <Aesop> eclypse, usually if you're ignored it's because no-one knows how to fix it.
[03:27] <eclypse> or nobody cares to answe.r
[03:27] <eclypse> one of the two
[03:27] <dbglt> eclypse: head over to ubuntu-xgl for help with xgl
[03:27] <Aesop> dbglt, then probably not. YOu might be able to find an alternate repository that has it
[03:27] <dbglt> eclypse: what's the problem though?
[03:27] <EnsignRedshirt> Aesop: Worse.  If he uses * to find the files, they will appear as options to rename, maybe?
[03:27] <Aesop> eclypse, it's very rarely because no-one cares to answer
[03:27] <nickrud> matthew_w, that's it's purpose, so we don't have to teach the skeleton & update-rc.d just to allow you to run a trivial script. If it's just a line or two, put it directly into rc.local
[03:27] <eclypse> I'm not going to that channel, no activity whatsoever
[03:27] <cwillu> eclypse: or the people who know are currently in other conversations
[03:27] <eclypse> and the issue is no longer with XGL
[03:27] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: with the ones that are still "Unknown Artist - *", should I try something like: rename 's/Unknown Artist - //" *
[03:27] <eclypse> because I'm not attempting to run it
[03:27] <dbglt> eclypse: right. what's the issue then?
[03:27] <ic56> MTecknology: will that be a single image file living under /opersys or will it be several?
[03:27] <eclypse> when I run fglrxinfo I get the following error
[03:27] <Aesop> cvp, Yes
[03:28] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: Yes.  But try it first with a -n to see what will happen.
[03:28] <eclypse> Error: unable to open display :0
[03:28] <MTecknology> ic56, several
[03:28] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, I'm not sure.
[03:28] <cwillu> eclypse: have you ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ?
[03:28] <eclypse> yes
[03:28] <MTecknology> ic56, several 2 or 3
[03:28] <matthew_w> nickrud; just want to run lircd, so just stick it at the bottom before exit 0?  do I have to uncomment the !bin/sh bit?
[03:28] <cwillu> eclypse: and hit the defaults for everything, and see if that works?
[03:28] <eclypse> yes.
[03:28] <Me8> Can I get to the text based installer with the liveCD?
[03:28] <cvp> EnsignRedshirt: I'm making copies while I don't know what I'm doing entirely, so it's all good.
[03:28] <Aesop> eclypse, does X start at all?
[03:28] <eclypse> yep
[03:28] <eclypse> no 3d accelleration whatsoever
[03:28] <mcrandello_> I got something wierd: "/bin/sh: -dumpversion: command not found"
[03:28] <Aesop> That's good at least...
[03:28] <nickrud> matthew_w, insert lines just above exit 0, leave the first line alone.
[03:28] <mcrandello_> anyone ever see that?
[03:29] <eclypse> it even lags at the welcom screen.
[03:29] <Aesop> eclypse, ATI or NVidia?
[03:29] <eclypse> ATI
[03:29] <Aesop> Ooh, not touching that
[03:29] <cwillu> mcrandello_: what were you doing?
[03:29] <eclypse> lol....
[03:29] <Aesop> That's why I switched to nVidia
[03:29] <eclypse> well
[03:29] <mcrandello_> trying to compile ATI's drivers
[03:29] <eclypse> I would gladly do the saem
[03:29] <eclypse> BUT, I'm on a laptop
[03:29] <mcrandello_> from the newest updated package
[03:29] <eclypse> and that doesn't seem to be an option
[03:29] <eclypse> yes
[03:29] <Aesop> Ah......
[03:29] <cwillu> eclypse: lol
[03:29] <matthew_w> nickrud; and for multiple lines (ie; multiple commands) just put them in there?  no ; after each or anything?
[03:29] <DarkMageZ> ATI card's aren't that bad
[03:29] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Yahoo! Works beautifully.
[03:29] <cvp> Aesop, EnsignRedshirt: Thanks again!
[03:29] <cwillu> eclypse: just get out a soldering iron, and...
[03:29] <eclypse> they don't work for shit on linux
[03:29] <Aesop> Yeah, you're pretty much at the screwed part now. >_<
[03:29] <eclypse> lol
[03:29] <Me8> Can anyone help me with an installation problem?
[03:29] <eclypse> I don't have an extra 1500 dollars to throw around...
[03:29] <eclypse> lol
[03:30] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: np
[03:30] <dbglt> eclypse: paste up your xorg.conf and your latest xorg.log
[03:30] <Aesop> cvp, Glad to be of help
[03:30] <cwillu> eclypse: I'd check into seeing if x is allocating any system memory for the video card
[03:30] <cvp> Ooh, here's another problem...
[03:30] <cvp> not with the renaming though
[03:30] <eclypse> dbglt, I'll pastebin it right now
[03:30] <cvp> new one altogether, heh
[03:30] <eclypse> dbglt hold on.
[03:30] <nickrud> matthew_w, each command on a separate line, yes. no ; needed after each line. If in doubt, put together what you think should be in there, and put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ . I don't know lircd, but someone probably can vet it
[03:30] <Me8> ---->Installation Problem Here<----
[03:30] <ic56> MTecknology: while you have a good reason for resizing, it's a lot of work.  For one thing, if you care about your data at all, you'd have to back it up to be sure you don't lose it, should there be a power failure during your resize operation or (gasp) should accidentally erase something you shouldn't have.  I'd recommend using /dev/hda1 as /opersys.  If you exceed the available space, simply move one of the images to /op
[03:30] <Aesop> Hey, can anyone help me out with a resolution problem on a dual-head monitor configuration?
[03:30] <ic56> MTecknology: an ordinary directory in hda2
[03:30] <mcrandello_> I can't find in the make.sh where the frack that -dumpversionis supposed to be or what the heck it does
[03:31] <mcrandello_> I assume it's supposed to dump a version number somewhere
[03:31] <matthew_w> thanks nickrud'
[03:31] <cwillu> mcrandello_: you have build-essential et al installed right?
[03:31] <MTecknology> ic56, I have backups made
[03:31] <Me8> ---->Installation Problem Here<----
[03:31] <mcrandello_> just reinstalled it
[03:31] <ic56> MTecknology: if you have backups.  Then why not just re-install?
[03:31] <cwillu> mcrandello_: try doing a synaptic search for 'dumpversion', or google it to see what package might have it;  once you know that, apt-get install it and try the build again
[03:31] <cvp> I switched to the 686 kernel because I heard it would be better for my P4 processor in terms of hyperthreading, but when the diagnostic information is running up the screen before the welcome screen (y'know, initializing all that crap), at some point at the end the text turns into garbage. Everything else about the kernel is absolutely dandy, just the frightening gibberish just before it's finished booting. I use an ATI graphics card.
[03:32] <eclypse> dbglt: where is that log, again?
[03:32] <Me8> Can anyone help me with an installation problem?
[03:32] <Warbo> Anyone know how to prevent metacity from starting? I have got enlightenment going at login, but there is a huge delay when it starts trying to load Metacity
[03:32] <cvp> Me8: Installation of what?
[03:32] <Me8> Dapper
[03:32] <cwillu> cvp: custom compiled kernel or just out of the ubuntu repository
[03:32] <mcrandello_> cwillu good idea
[03:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Me8: Just describe the problem--someone might have an answer.
[03:32] <PORDO> how can i copy all files in a directory, including hidden?
[03:32] <cvp> cwillu: just out of the repository
[03:32] <Warbo> PORDO: I would copy the directory itself
[03:32] <cvp> Me8: From formatted hard drive or from Hoary?
[03:33] <dbglt> eclypse: which?
[03:33] <MTecknology> ic56, I don't want to reinstall my software I Want To Resize My Partition
[03:33] <eclypse> the xorg log
[03:33] <ic56> MTecknology: I'll answer my own question: you want to experience resizing.  Fine.  The answer is the "parted" utility and its GUI counterpart "gparted".  They can resize your hda2.  I don't know if they can grow it backwards but you'll have fun trying it out.
[03:33] <dbglt> eclypse: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:33] <cwillu> cvp: that's all I got :p;  I'm a stock kernel.org kernel though, and I don't even get a bootup screen at all;  pretty much benign though
[03:33] <eclypse> k
[03:33] <eclypse> does anyone know how I can directly send files through a single LAN cord from Linux to Windows?
[03:33] <eclypse> I don't have a router
[03:33] <MTecknology> ic56, No, gparted will not size backward, that's why I'm here
[03:34] <cwillu> eclypse: need a crossover cable
[03:34] <cvp> cwillu: s'all good, I didn't really expect anyone to have an answer for this. Thanks anyway!
[03:34] <eclypse> damn
[03:34] <eclypse> well
[03:34] <dbglt> crossover cable you can
[03:34] <eclypse> I don't see why it wouldn
[03:34] <dbglt> yeah
[03:34] <eclypse> wouldn't work
[03:34] <eclypse> because, I got internet connection sharing working
[03:34] <dbglt> you can make one with a normal lan cord
[03:34] <eclypse> meaning, they're transfering files
[03:34] <Me8> I want to install the desktop version of Dapper, but I need to use logical volumes to combine two hard drives. In the text installer, this is no problem, but in the livecd installer, I can't select the LV. So, can I circumvent the livecd installer and get the text menus?
[03:34] <dbglt> or they cost like $5-10AUD
[03:34] <Sivik> how do i go about getting the acpi modules to allow me to scan with my wireless card?
[03:34] <dbglt> (not a lot)
[03:34] <eugman> So why is the cool stuff on the .nl site of ubuntu?
[03:34] <ic56> MTecknology: if parted can't do it, I don't think it's doable, but we can ask...
[03:34] <cwillu> eclypse: without a crossover, the send and receive wires aren't in the right spot on the other side;  most routers have circuitry built in to detect and flip the write, but most network cards don't
[03:34] <avallach> if they're already communicating then it should be fairly easy...
[03:34] <eclypse> ic
[03:34] <PORDO> that worked Warbo ..thanks
[03:35] <avallach> just setup an FTP server on one of the boxes or set up a windows hare & Samba
[03:35] <eclypse> can anyone send me a link to a fairly reasonable price for a crossover cable? preferrably 10ft
[03:35] <MTecknology> ic56, I did
[03:35] <eugman> Me8, I think you'll have to use the alternative cd and use a text install.
[03:35] <ic56> gparted cannot resize a partition backwards into previous cylinders of the disk.  Is there an utility that can?
[03:35] <cwillu> avallach eclypse: need to get a link light first :)
[03:35] <eclypse> a what now?
[03:35] <avallach> didnt he just say they were communicating and ICS was working?
[03:35] <eclypse> yep
[03:35] <keleus> anyone know of a good fire-and-forget utility for sharing a single file through HTTP?
[03:35] <cwillu> eclypse: little light that comes on by the socket when something is plugged in on both ends
[03:35] <Warbo> Anyone know how to turn off Metacity? (stop it from starting)
[03:35] <Me8> So it's not possible to enter something at the boot: prompt to go straight to the install?
[03:36] <eclypse> yes, I HAVE that
[03:36] <eclypse> lmao
[03:36] <PORDO> how do i change the splash again?  i forget this every time..
[03:36] <avallach> then you dont need a crossover cable.  the cable just gets you a link light.
[03:36] <ic56> MTecknology: know how to ask is the key.
[03:36] <cwillu> avallach eclypse, ahhh, well nevermind then :)
[03:36] <eclypse> umm
[03:36] <eclypse> ok
[03:36] <eclypse> I'm confused here
[03:36] <nickrud> Warbo, the only method I know is sys-prefs-sessions, and set metacity to normal and kill it.
[03:36] <eclypse> how would I transfer files
[03:36] <vanberge> quick poll:  what is everyone's favorite app to manage/update/sync ipods ??
[03:36] <cvp> vanberge: gtkpod
[03:36] <paq> vanberge, amarok
[03:36] <cvp> vanberge: listen to paq, I've only ever used gtkpod
[03:37] <Warbo> nickrud: That will stop it from REstarting yes, but I want to stop it loading at login (it is not in the session options to remove)
[03:37] <avallach> eclypse: if they're already talking, then that hurdle's done.  you either need to setup a windows share and use samba, or put an FTP server on one of the boxes, or whatever.
[03:37] <paq> amarok is pretty awesome, just give it a shot
[03:37] <eclypse> how would I set up a FTP server on windows?
[03:37] <eugman> Keleus, dhttpd may be what you need.
[03:37] <cwillu> eclypse: are you running a firewall behind windows?  if so, you could just share a folder on your windows machine and connect to it from linux (should work out of the box)
[03:37] <nickrud> Warbo, if you kill it after setting it to normal, it won't start until you manually do it (pretty darn sure)
[03:37] <vanberge> eclypse: mozilla makes one
[03:37] <avallach> eclypse: what version of windows do you have
[03:37] <eclypse> XP
[03:37] <avallach> pro or home
[03:38] <eclypse> home
[03:38] <cvp> paq: is amarok user-friendly?
[03:38] <Warbo> nickrud: Not until you log in again. I want to stop it from loading at login because I don;t want to use it as my WM
[03:38] <mcrandello_> Ah
[03:38] <avallach> ahh...like van said...mozilla makes one
[03:38] <keleus> hmm dhttpd looks like it would work
[03:38] <L-----D> on windows? Serv U
[03:38] <avallach> xp pro has one built in
[03:38] <eclypse> ok
[03:38] <eclypse> can someone link me to the mozilla one?
[03:38] <eclypse> I'm on dialup so
[03:38] <nickrud> Warbo, with gnome? havoc made that damned hard
[03:38] <ic56> MTecknology: I googled and don't find any hits.  I don't think there are any tools for resizing partitions backward.  I've given you some other options.  You'll probably have to use those.
[03:38] <mcrandello_> cwillu: dumpversion is a compiler option that unsurprisingly, dumps the compiler version
[03:38] <paq> cvp, yes, its the the best media player you can find for linux right now. just get it, seeing is believing :)
[03:38] <avallach> yeah http://www.google.com
[03:38] <PORDO> customizing the splash...anyone?
[03:39] <mcrandello_> I guess it's time to look for stray carriage returns int he makefile
[03:39] <vanberge> eclypse: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1491
[03:39] <cvp> paq: better than even VLC??
[03:39] <cwillu> heh;  do they specify which compiler version you need?
[03:39] <paq> cvp, it's for audio. it's basically "itunes done right"
[03:39] <MTecknology> I have hda2 set in the middle of my HD, I want to move hda2 to the beginning of the drive so I can resize it. Unless there is any way to resize a partitioin backward or merge two... any help???
[03:39] <cvp> PORDO: I'm interested in that, too, actually... so I fully approve of your nagging.
[03:39] <mcrandello_> no but it seems to spawn another error about no rule to make something.a.GCC4
[03:39] <nickrud> Warbo, I did that with sawfish a while back, lemme think a bit
[03:39] <eclypse> dude, avallach, you don't lead a dialup user to a search engine, thats just wrong...
[03:39] <mcrandello_> so I guess that's why there's no rule
[03:39] <cvp> paq: Oh, ok. Sweet, thanks.
[03:39] <j1p> the wiki says to install flashplugin-nonfree to get the mozilla plugin of flash, but i get that package doesnt exist in Dapper, multiverse/universe are enabled
[03:40] <Warbo> nickrud: There are gconf options all over the place, but so far I have found that adding enlightenment to ~/.gnomerc loads it at login before Metacity, but Metacity still tries to start and makes about a minute wait before anything else starts (like gdesklets)
[03:40] <avallach> i was on dialup for many years...and i used search engines.
[03:40] <PORDO> cvp i've done it before, i just forget how you do it.
[03:40] <eclypse> also, dbglt, heres the pastebin for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/722408
[03:40] <cwillu> mcrandello_: my first impression would be that there's something wrong with the makefile (i.e., that command shouldn't be getting to a shell call, but it is somehow)
[03:40] <nickrud> Warbo, that tickles a memory, yes
[03:40] <mcrandello_> this is on the newly updated xorg-driver-fglrx package so I bet there will be more Q's about dumpversion or libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4
[03:40] <cwillu> mcrandello_: but so far today, I'm 0 for 3 on first impressions :)
[03:40] <eclypse> I have the slowest dialup you can possibly immagine
[03:40] <L-----D> !font
[03:40] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[03:40] <mcrandello_> yeah someone missed their coffee then hit the enter button I bet
[03:40] <cvp> eclypse: I doubt that.
[03:41] <EnsignRedshirt> j1p: Maybe flashplayer-mozilla?
[03:41] <Warbo> nickrud: I have done it previously by making /usr/bin/metacity a link pointing to /usr/bin/enlightenment, but I don't want it system-wide this time
[03:41] <ic56> MTecknology: actually, seeing as hda1 and hda2 are teh same size, you can copy hda2 over to hda1.  Adjusting the booting sequence and ensuring your don't overwrite the wrong sectors is tricky but if you can find someone with the patience to walk you through it, it's doable.
[03:41] <j1p> EnsignRedshirt, no package again
[03:41] <eclypse> I'm the second to the slowest I've ever seen
[03:41] <eclypse> I connect at 24.6kbs
[03:41] <eclypse> download at 2.4kbs
[03:41] <eclypse> upload at 1.3
[03:41] <eclypse> also, dbglt, heres the pastebin for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/722408
[03:41] <nickrud> Warbo, it's something to do with /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager I think. looking
[03:42] <ic56> MTecknology: once your Ubuntu filesystem is in hda1, you can the use parted to shrink it and then free hda2
[03:42] <cvp> eclypse: You've never lived the days when 14.4kbps was fast...
[03:42] <vanberge> paq: you're right..  amarok owns.
[03:42] <raiffrhg> Hello guys....
[03:42] <raiffrhg> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.3 libgift >= 0.10.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[03:42] <raiffrhg> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.3 libgift >= 0.10.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[03:42] <vanberge> paq: i am using it now, it really rocks!
[03:42] <MTecknology> ic56, I thought about it, but that seems dangerous
[03:42] <raiffrhg> how can i solve this?:!!?!?!?!
[03:42] <eclypse> cvp, my other line connects at 12.8
[03:43] <cwillu> raiffrhg: what are you doing?
[03:43] <paq> vanberge, sure thing :)
[03:43] <raiffrhg> i'm trying to install giftoxic
[03:43] <ic56> MTecknology: it *is* dangerous.  But you said you've backed up everything.  So if you screw up it doesn't matter.  Right?
[03:43] <cwillu> raiffrhg: do you have the dev libs for gtk installed?
[03:43] <Warbo> raiffrhg: try installing the -dev packages of whatever it asks for
[03:43] <EnsignRedshirt> j1p: Have you hit Reload in Synaptic, or run apt-get update, after enabling multiverse?
[03:43] <raiffrhg> ./configure
[03:43] <j1p> yep
[03:43] <raiffrhg> i'm new in linux...
[03:43] <MTecknology> ic56, It matters for time sake
[03:44] <raiffrhg> i did in terminal apt-get install gtk but returns me that no package are found...
[03:44] <dbglt> eclypse: did you paste up the log?
[03:44] <raiffrhg> was found...
[03:44] <cwillu> raiffrhg: search in synaptic for gtk;  it's not just called gtk
[03:44] <mcrandello_> it's the danger what seperates the admin from the adboys
[03:44] <eclypse> dbglt, I'm pasting it now
[03:44] <raiffrhg> i did it ...
[03:44] <dbglt> ok
[03:44] <raiffrhg> but nothings...
[03:44] <Warbo> raiffrhg: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager. Search for what it asks for and install any packages ending in -dev which seem sensible
[03:44] <ic56> MTecknology: Assuming your hda1 is *NOT* smaller than hda2, then use: dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda1 skip=1 seek=1 bs=512
[03:45] <EnsignRedshirt> j1p: Strange. I'm still using breezy, so I can't check this, but this page also says flashplugin-nonfree should be in multiverse: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <eclypse> there seems to be a max ammount of lines that can be posted in pastebin...
[03:45] <dooglus> Warbo: this is what I use to start GNOME with e17 instead of metacity: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16149
[03:45] <ic56> MTecknology: this will copy the entire contents of hda2 over to hda1, except for the 1st sector, thus leaving your MBR untouched.
[03:45] <nickrud> Warbo, well, gnome doesn't respect x-window-manager any more
[03:45] <raiffrhg> i'll try again search for gtk in synaptics....
[03:45] <j1p> thanks EnsignRedshirt
[03:46] <MTecknology> ic56, where will my MBR look for the boot record then?
[03:46] <raiffrhg> always i have dificulty in ./configure
[03:46] <Warbo> nickrud: Yes, there are options for WM switching all over the place but none seem to work :(
[03:46] <raiffrhg> package not found
[03:46] <raiffrhg> package not found
[03:46] <raiffrhg> package not found
[03:46] <SirGroky> I have a strange problem, while running adept, the installation of a few pacakages broke, and now I can not run apt-get upgrade without the output of "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[03:46] <eclypse> dbglt, it wont let me paste the full ammount.....
[03:46] <SirGroky> I don't have dpkg.
[03:46] <raiffrhg> always...
[03:46] <Warbo> dooglus: Is it even possible (or sensible) to use E17 and GNOME? Anyway, I will adapt that to E16 thanks
[03:46] <L-----D> hey, is there a way to invite the ubotu to #ubuntu-cn
[03:46] <raiffrhg> i'm coming from windows...
[03:47] <raiffrhg> but i'll not give up...
[03:47] <nickrud> Warbo, dooglus's desktop entry seems definitely worth trying
[03:47] <ic56> MTecknology: then go into grub and tell it that hda1 is a second Ubuntu boot partition.  Then try to reboot into that partition.  If it works, you can now now remove your hda2.
[03:47] <cwillu> raiffrhg: how are you searching?  there should at the very least be some hits that are already installed
[03:48] <dooglus> Warbo: yes.  why not?
[03:48] <dooglus> Warbo: that pastebin I made shows how I do it
[03:48] <raiffrhg> my ubuntu is in portuguese...
[03:48] <raiffrhg> i'll try to translate...
[03:48] <MTecknology> ic56, so I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to use hda1 instead of hda2??
[03:48] <SirGroky> Does anyone know how to help me out?
[03:48] <mcrandello_> okay here's the culprit: "GCC_VER_MAJ      = $(shell $$CC -dumpversion | cut -f1 -d.)"
[03:48] <L-----D> !invite help
[03:48] <PORDO> cvp the splash is controlled by a setting in gconf-edotir
[03:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about invite help
[03:48] <raiffrhg> i pushed... in Search...
[03:48] <PORDO> cvp the splash is controlled by a setting in gconf-editor
[03:48] <ic56> MTecknology: if your hda2 is a little bigger than your hda1, then resize it first with gparted -- make it smaller so when you copy it, it will fit in hda1.
[03:48] <cwillu> raiffrhg: shoudln't matter I don't think
[03:48] <SurfnKid> anyone know a website to find Prism Chipset Manuf. Like Netgear, Linksys
[03:48] <raiffrhg> typed gtk
[03:48] <dbglt> eclypse: you are trying to use the proprietry driver?
[03:48] <mcrandello_> anyone know why that would make a poopy on me?
[03:48] <geeksauce> is there any way to bind a key combination to lock my screen?  or is there a built-in hotkey kind of thing?
[03:48] <eclypse> dbglt, yues
[03:49] <raiffrhg> but what you'll say... i'll try  here...
[03:49] <raiffrhg> no problem...
[03:49] <Warbo> dooglus: Is that "starte17 GNOME" an actual command which is specific to E17? Will I have to make some kind of script to bind E16 to GNOME since it doesn't have this feature?
[03:49] <raiffrhg> i'll pushed search...
[03:49] <ic56> MTecknology: you edit menu.st to use *both* hda1 *and* hda2.  This way, if it doesn't work, you can still boot in hda2 and try to figure out what you did wrong.
[03:49] <ic56> MTecknology: s/st/lst/
[03:49] <dbglt> eclypse: 87.         Driver    "ati" - should be ( Driver "fglrx")
[03:49] <ryanakca> is there a boot floppy of ubuntu server?
[03:49] <MTecknology> aight
[03:49] <eFoX> hey hey
[03:50] <cwillu> raiffrhg: 'Edit' menu | Search
[03:50] <ic56> MTecknology: good luck!
[03:50] <mcrandello_> Ooh I think I'm onto something
[03:50] <cwillu> you should have a whole bunch of packages show up, most of which aren't even related to gtk :)
[03:50] <eclypse> dbglt, it always screws up when I use that driver...
[03:50] <cwillu> mcrandello_: do tell :)
[03:50] <eFoX> i previously had wlan0 and i dont know what i did, but now THATS gone, and in place i have eth1
[03:50] <Warbo> ryanakca: I dount the kernel will fit on a floppy, let alone the initrd (I use a boot CD)
[03:50] <dooglus> Warbo: starte17 is just a little script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16150
[03:50] <dbglt> eclypse: ... that's the correct one
[03:50] <eFoX> and i cant connect to my wireless network or even scan with iwlist scan
[03:50] <mcrandello_> $$CC <- that should be an environment variable pointing to whatever version of cc you have right?
[03:50] <dbglt> eclypse: what card are you using?
[03:50] <ryanakca> I'm going to be installing ubuntu server onto an old server at school. however (afaik), the box only boots from floppy although the box has a cdrom drive...
[03:51] <jighead> geeksauce, system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts has an entry for lock screen, you can set it as you see fit
[03:51] <geeksauce> like in xp, i just hit ctrl+alt+del then enter, and it locks my session.  is there any keyboard shortcut for that in ubuntu??
[03:51] <eclypse> ATI mobility radeon x300
[03:51] <dooglus> Warbo: take a look - it's very simple.  you just set WINDOW_MANAGER to be the wm you want, then run gnome-session
[03:51] <eclypse> pci-e
[03:51] <geeksauce> jighead, thanks
[03:51] <eclypse> 64mb dedicated
[03:51] <MTecknology> ic56, I'm going to rebackup first
[03:51] <dbglt> eclypse: it is covered by the propietary driver I take it?
[03:51] <mcrandello_> maybe not, I'm not to smart with makefiles
[03:51] <Warbo> dooglus: I was thinking along those lines, and now I don't even have to write my own script. Thanks
[03:51] <dbglt> eclypse: (have you checked)? I assume it is
[03:51] <ic56> MTecknology: good plan. What sw do you use to backup?
[03:52] <dooglus> Warbo: I didn't write it.  I can't remember whether it came with the e17 sources, or whether it's part of the sid package.
[03:52] <Warbo> dooglus: (I wasn;t even sure if the export WINDOW_MANAGER was even still used by GNOME actually)
[03:52] <eclypse> probably
[03:52] <MTecknology> ic56, gnome-terminal; cp -R */ */
[03:52] <dooglus> Warbo: I hadn't even looked at the script before - but I have run it, and it works
[03:52] <eFoX> How do you connect to a wireless network ? Why isn't my iwlist scan not bringin up any results ?
[03:53] <MTecknology> ic56, I prefer to not trust software for backups like this
[03:53] <MrBrizzio> lol
[03:53] <ic56> MTecknology: goodness!  not dump?  not even tar or cpio?  You're asking for trouble.  What are you baking up?
[03:53] <EnsignRedshirt> ryanakca: I've never used it, but you might want to take a look at "Smart Boot Manager": http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:53] <cwillu> raiffrhg: if you get that far, you'll probably need anything that has the words gtk and dev in it (libgtk, etc)
[03:53] <dooglus> Warbo: are you familiar with freenx?
[03:53] <MrBrizzio> if it isn;t not bringing up results it must be working
[03:53] <cwillu> so, who here is an smb guru?
[03:53] <Warbo> dooglus: I've never used it, no
[03:53] <MTecknology> ic56, all I'm doing now is /home/michael/ without the music
[03:54] <dooglus> Warbo: it seems to be like VNC, only very efficient
[03:54] <ic56> MTecknology: so, you're not backing up the OS config?  You don't care if you lose it?!
[03:54] <KevinIN72> Ok how do i get php on my server??
[03:54] <HBuzacott> KevinIN72, apt-get install php
[03:54] <KevinIN72> HBuzacott: thanks
[03:54] <cwillu> dooglus: it's basically native X like you would get using ssh -XC, only optimized to eliminate 90% of the round trips
[03:54] <MTecknology> ic56, not too drastically, all I really care about is my personal configuration and documents
[03:55] <oni-dracula> does anyone know what four short beeps means during BIOS POST?
[03:55] <dbglt> eclypse: make sure. You can choose to use either the ati driver (the free one - but you will get no 3d acceleration) or the one provided by ati (propriety one - with 3d acceleration)
[03:55] <Warbo> ryanakca: To boot hardware which is unsupported by the BIOS you need a kernel and initrd image on something which are. The default Ubuntu kernel and image are far too big for a floppy, so you will have to make your own kernel (if you strip out everything unneeded, then compile in the things you want, you will have a tiny kernel which doesn't need an initrd)
[03:55] <dbglt> eclypse: either handle 2d fine
[03:55] <cwillu> KevinIN72: something along the lines of apt-get install php or php-apache or something should work
[03:55] <HBuzacott> KevinIN72, make sure yiu add the version number that you want t o install at the end, eg. php5
[03:55] <dooglus> cwillu: freenx sessions can be suspended and resumed later from a different machine, right?
[03:55] <Flannel> !tell KevinIN72 about lamp
[03:55] <ic56> MTecknology: that cp command you showed me... the arguments look wrong.  Why 2 stars?!
[03:55] <eclypse> dbglt, its not a matter of drivers, it seems to be deeper then that...
[03:55] <Warbo> dooglus: I have only used VNC in order to use vnc2swf as a screen capture tool
[03:55] <cwillu> dooglus:  believe so;  the same trickery that makes it fast allows it to do that too
[03:56] <petrik> How can I get an icon on my desktop for a new dirve I have mounted?
[03:56] <eclypse> dbglt, and it isant handling 2d well at allk
[03:56] <eclypse> I've seen much better out of it
[03:56] <smahoney> Anyone have any idea what's going on here?  Whenever I activate compiz, my computer totally freezes after a couple seconds
[03:56] <dooglus> cwillu: I tried earlier.  I started a session locally, then went to a windows machine.  the windows machine could see the susended session, but wouldn't attempt to resume it.
[03:56] <KevinIN72> so if i install this i can have php on my computer right
[03:56] <Flannel> KevinIN72: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP will tell you specific package names.
[03:56] <SurfnKid> anyone know a good USB Wifi Adapter based on the Prism Chipset?
[03:56] <cwillu> eclypse: my impression is really that it doesn't have much video ram reserved;  not dead sure how to check that though
[03:57] <cwillu> eclypse: something in the xorg logs though
[03:57] <Firebird8> whats the comman to unpackage a tar file?
[03:57] <SurfnKid> 80211g preferribly
[03:57] <Flannel> KevinIN72: but yeah, just "php" will install php, but won't allow it to interface with apache, if that's what you were trying to do.
[03:57] <eclypse> cwillu, I can send you the log directly, pastebin wont support all the lines...
[03:57] <dooglus> Firebird8: "tar xf file.tar"
[03:57] <Flannel> smahoney: #ubuntu-xgl for compiz/xgl questions
[03:57] <SurfnKid> tar
[03:57] <dooglus> Firebird8: or "tar xf file.tar.gz"
[03:57] <smahoney> Oh, sweet!  Thanks Flannel
[03:57] <Firebird8> thx
[03:57] <cwillu> dooglus: using the freenx version or the official nx software?
[03:57] <KevinIN72> Flannel: im trying to set up a website with Nuke-Evolution Basic
[03:57] <cwillu> eclypse: one sec, I'll see if I can find a specific command to find it
[03:57] <dooglus> cwillu: the freenx version of the server, with the official clients
[03:58] <Flannel> KevinIN72: read that wiki page, it'll get you all setup.
[03:58] <MTecknology> ic56, the * was my personal wild card the command I use it cp -R -a -f /home/michael/ /media/DATA/
[03:58] <KevinIN72> Flannel: k
[03:58] <dooglus> cwillu: using the pre-built konetix (sp?) binaries
[03:58] <mcrandello_> wow the guys in #gcc are a quiet bunch
[03:58] <eclypse> cwillu, k
[03:58] <EnsignRedshirt> ryanakca: I think this is the "Smart Boot Manager" this I was thinking of: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[03:58] <EnsignRedshirt> ryanakca: I don't know if that is related to the other link that I gave you.
[03:59] <cwillu> eclypse: pastebin the output of
[03:59] <Warbo> EnsignRedshirt: Is that still supported? (I don;t think it can access hardware which is not supported by the BIOS either, just like GRUB)
[03:59] <cwillu> eclypse: grep "ram" /var/log/Xorg*
[03:59] <ic56> MTecknology: you should at least add a -p flag
[03:59] <patrick_> ok, its me eclypse, I'm on the laptop
[03:59] <patrick_> k.
[03:59] <rigonatti> hi all
[03:59] <ic56> MTecknology: ah, never mind, I see the -a flag implies -p
[04:00] <patrick_> can you repeat that command again?
[04:00] <rigonatti> how do i complete remove gnome from my desktop ?
[04:00] <Warbo> rigonatti: "sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome"?
[04:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Warbo: I don't know, I haven't tried it.  But if I had a non-bootable CD-ROM, I would try that first before trying to roll my own mini-kernel.
[04:00] <nickrud> rigonatti, without removing a lot of the useful ubuntu tools, not very easy
[04:00] <Flannel> rigonatti: you'll need to use deborphan, to get all the libraries and stuff gone
[04:00] <patrick_> cwillu, can you repeat that command please? this is eclypse.
[04:01] <cwillu> grep "ram" /var/log/Xorg*
[04:01] <Firebird8> how do u change permisions of a file?
[04:01] <dooglus> Flannel: debfoster is probably easier to use than deborphan
[04:01] <patrick_> k
[04:01] <ic56> MTecknology: If were you, I would at least also backup /etc .
[04:01] <dooglus> Firebird8: chmod
[04:01] <Warbo> EnsignRedshirt: I have had lots of experience with bootup stuff and I think the SMB is just a fancy chainloading program (you NEED a kernel with driver support for your inteded boot device, and if you use a Linux kernel then you don't need to chainload anything)
[04:01] <Flannel> rigonatti: deborphan apparently, rather than debfoster
[04:01] <MTecknology> ic56, what does that do?
[04:02] <kenny> aye, anyone installed a Linsys USB wireless adaptor recently (ubuntu dapper 6.06) trying with USB11v4.inf && ndiswrapper atm
[04:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Warbo: So putting a bootable CDROM in the CD drive and booting with SBR wouldn't work?
[04:02] <ic56> MTecknology: most (not all) of the system config is in /etc.  If you screw up and need to re-install, if something doesn't work after you've reinstalled, you can look to see what the config files were before.
[04:02] <KevinIN72> Flannel: is installin mysql with php5 fine
[04:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Warbo: (I mean, booting with an SBR floppy, of course)
[04:03] <MTecknology> ic56, aight
[04:03] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:03] <mcrandello> Hah, got it: "GCC_VER_MAJ     = 4" <-take THAT, ATI
[04:03] <Warbo> EnsignRedshirt: My assumption would be that it wouldn't (but I would still test it because I am often an idiot)
[04:03] <nickrud> rigonatti, unless you have really limited bandwith (for updates) it's easiest to just leave gnome alone, and not use it. You'll need to carefully research the packages debfoster wants to remove, to avoid removing something you will want later.
[04:03] <cwillu> mcrandello: lol
[04:04] <Flannel> KevinIN72: yep, that's what that page goes through
[04:04] <ic56> MTecknology: I'm off.  l8r!
[04:04] <KevinIN72> Flannel: ok yeah that is what im doin than
[04:04] <jshriver> Greetings
[04:04] <MTecknology> ic56, NO
[04:04] <MTecknology> ic56, I need help!!!
[04:04] <jshriver> anyone here use perl? I can't get any modules to work under Ubuntu
[04:04] <jshriver> trying:
[04:04] <jshriver> perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Bundle::CPAN"' or whatver modules
[04:04] <jshriver> they always break
[04:05] <dooglus> jshriver: a lot of modules are available through synaptic
[04:05] <nickrud> jshriver, most of the cpan modules are already in ubuntu, try searching synaptic
[04:05] <patrick_> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/722446
[04:05] <MTecknology> nm, ic56, I'll figure it out - I hope
[04:05] <cwillu> jshriver: perl installed via synaptic or apt-get, right?
[04:05] <MattSta> How can i stop my videos from play so, shaky
[04:05] <Rug> In breezy there was an addon/app/util that you could add to the top panel that lets you run a command/app by typing in it's name. (Similar to Run Command:   )  I can't find it in Dapper.
[04:05] <rigonatti> its true...but seem that gnome have poor aplications for all ...
[04:05] <jshriver> hrm? but it's usually easier just to -MCPAN it.. no time
[04:05] <jshriver> yeah I installed perl using apt-get install perl5 I think.. perl something
[04:05] <init_6> Anyone in here use Verizon Wireless Kyocera 650 EVDO card?
[04:06] <dooglus> jshriver: ubuntu uses synaptic/apt-get to install packages, not perl -MCPAN -e ...
[04:06] <cwillu> jshriver: that's all I got, sorry;  might see if you can find anything googling re: debian instead of ubuntu if you couldn't find it before
[04:06] <jshriver> well it always worked in debian, so figured it'd work in ubuntu too..
[04:06] <cwillu> dooglus: perl modules should be installable via perl though, unless it's broken;  much like python modules
[04:06] <jshriver> -MCPAN doesnt really install things like program packages.. just installes the .pm in the right place
[04:07] <Kyral> which is bad why?
[04:07] <Warbo> Yay, I added the E16-GNOME session, but it turns out there is one already (E-GNOME) ! I'm so stupid, anyway I am logging out now.
[04:07] <cwillu> what is bad?
[04:07] <Kyral> I'd say about 70% of all CPAN Modules AREN'T packaged
[04:07] <patrick_> cwillu, did you check out that pastebin?
[04:07] <tylerofl> has anyone managed to get WMA working on Rhythmbox?
[04:07] <jbwiv> guys, anyone running Xen successfully with Dapper _including_ LVM?
[04:07] <cwillu> patrick_: sorry, I didn't see you paste it
[04:07] <jshriver> looking for Net::OSCAR in synaptic.. nice tool but I prefer apt-get/apt-cache though
[04:07] <cwillu> got the link again?
[04:07] <patrick_> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/722446
[04:07] <cwillu> thx
[04:08] <jshriver> Net::Oscar isn't in synaptic so am I screwed?
[04:08] <Kyral> I got it running with Debian and LVM :P
[04:08] <jbwiv> Kyral: did you have to do a custom kernel compile?
[04:08] <Kyral> jshriver: just run cpan install Net::Oscar as root
[04:08] <sponix> so, anyone in here made a usb linksys wireless adaptor work (dapper) ?
[04:08] <Kyral> jbwiv: of course
[04:08] <Sivik> nickrud, did you ever beat the orginial modules?
[04:08] <jshriver> Kyral, tried.. but every modules I try breaks
[04:08] <jbwiv> Kyral: was that specifically to support LVM? I'm just trying to use the binary distro
[04:08] <nickrud> Sivik, no, I got bored during chapter 2
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, lol
[04:09] <Kyral> jbwiv: "specifically"? I just compiled it and the LVM services loaded
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, i almost beat it once, but then i was 3 levels too low
[04:09] <jbwiv> Kyral: I suppose you mean compiled the kernel, not compiled Xen?
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, so i couldn't
[04:09] <Kyral> I never consciously touched it
[04:09] <Sivik> nickrud, and tried and tried to replay, but got really busy
[04:09] <jshriver> hrm didnt know there was an actual command called span
[04:09] <jshriver> cspan rather. trying now
[04:09] <Kyral> jbwiv: I mean the kernel. I just let the LVM servers start
[04:09] <nickrud> jshriver, I avoid perl like the plague, but by definition it should work. I'd bug the developers mercilessly if I truly used them
[04:09] <Kyral> and I also compiled Xen
[04:10] <Sgeo> Are any websites currently running off the Ubuntu LAMP install thing?
[04:10] <cwillu> patrick_: okay, this is a bit of a shot in the dark, but try this:
[04:10] <Kyral> basically "make world && make install"
[04:10] <jbwiv> Kyral: but...why did you compile the kernel?
[04:10] <cwillu> patrick_: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:10] <Kyral> jbwiv: Call me an old timer, BUT WHY NOT?!
[04:10] <Kyral> I mean how else are you gonna install the thing?
[04:10] <cwillu> patrick_: find Section "Device" that looks like your video card (ati whatever, right?)
[04:10] <jbwiv> Kyral: heh...well, you can use the kernels Xen provides ;-)
[04:10] <patrick_> yes
[04:10] <jshriver> Any OSS games in Ubuntu you recommend? I have multiverse and universe set..
[04:10] <jshriver> I like gltron
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: and add a line to the end of that section:
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: VideoRam    8192
[04:11] <nickrud> frozen bubble
[04:11] <Kyral> jbwiv: Ah you used the binary package
[04:11] <SurfnKid> anyone heard of Ashton Digital 802.11 Prism 2 chipset?
[04:11] <Kyral> jbwiv: I used the source one :D
[04:11] <KevinIN72> Flannel: cannot find phpmyadmin
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: make a backup first though
[04:11] <patrick_> how would I do that?
[04:11] <cwillu> (I _think_ gedit does, but I'm not sure)
[04:11] <Sgeo> nickrud: That's evil, recommending such an addicting game ;(
[04:11] <jbwiv> Kyral: precisely.
[04:11] <Sgeo> ;)
[04:11] <SurfnKid> is there a Prism Chipset 802.11g USB adapter anyone knows about
[04:11] <jshriver> will check out frozen bubble thanks :)
[04:11] <nickrud> and gl-117
[04:11] <cwillu> patrick_: save a copy somewhere else first :)
[04:11] <jbwiv> Kyral: I suppose I'll try the source now ;-)
[04:11] <jbwiv> thanks
[04:11] <patrick_> ic
[04:11] <nickrud> Sgeo, I'm a pusher, and happy to be called so ;)
[04:11] <cwillu> jshriver: looking for games?
[04:12] <patrick_> also
[04:12] <Kyral> For something as low level as Xen, it feels RIGHT compiling from source :D
[04:12] <jshriver> yeah
[04:12] <patrick_> should I add "s on the number?
[04:12] <jshriver> Installed RTCW and Quake3 :) that's been fun
[04:12] <cwillu> jshriver: pingus is cool, although somewhat incomplete (only 10-15 levels)
[04:12] <Kyral> Nethack :D
[04:12] <patrick_> ie "8192"
[04:12] <jshriver> cwillu, thanks will check that out too
[04:12] <KevinIN72> anyone know why it cant find phpmyadmin??
[04:12] <cwillu> jshriver: quadra is a very addicting tetris clone (very high quality), but I've had trouble installing it on ubuntu :/
[04:12] <Kyral> !info phpmyadmin
[04:12] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[04:12] <Kyral> You were saying?
[04:12] <nickrud> heh. If I can't finish nwn, nethack? Please
[04:13] <Kyral> Its in Universe
[04:13] <jshriver> anyone here installed MythTV under Ubuntu? I'd like to use this box as a DVR as well
[04:13] <cwillu> patrick_: ?
[04:13] <Kyral> frankly I find PHPMyAdmin to be a waste of time
[04:13] <cwillu> s?
[04:13] <jmurch> Hi all
[04:13] <KevinIN72> no i wish to install it
[04:13] <patrick_> cwillu, should I make it appear as VideoRam                     "8192" intead of 8192?
[04:13] <mcrandello> Wow the new Xorg driver works
[04:13] <cwillu> oh, "'s :)
[04:13] <dooglus> nickrud: you've finished nethack?
[04:13] <cwillu> nope
[04:13] <Kyral> Why do you need it, commandline MySQL stuff WORKS :D
[04:13] <KevinIN72> really im following the steps online
[04:13] <nickrud> dooglus, has anyone?
[04:13] <cwillu> patrick_: this is straight from my xorg.conf to youse :p
[04:13] <dooglus> nickrud: I have several times :)
[04:13] <dooglus> nickrud: but not recently
[04:13] <mcrandello> 1131 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.200 FPS, now to see if this updated package freezes my USB
[04:14] <Kyral> Read and be happy :D
[04:14] <patrick_> k
[04:14] <nickrud> dooglus, heh. I thought it was impossible, I'll try not to get addicted again
[04:14] <Hexidigital_> ubotu still down?
[04:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about still down?
[04:14] <Kyral> Book is INVALUABLE :D
[04:14] <cwillu> mcrandello: gotta love it
[04:14] <jmurch> can anyone help a new user with the desktop, specifically when I minimize an app it disappears by the clock. How do I get it back?????
[04:14] <Hexidigital_> guess so
[04:14] <patrick_> rebootin gnow
[04:14] <patrick_> rebooting
[04:14] <cwillu> mcrandello: I'm still amazed when I see one of my kernels actually work :)
[04:14] <dooglus> nickrud: playing as a priest helps a lot - you can immediately tell which items are blessed and cursed
[04:14] <Kyral> Screw that
[04:14] <KevinIN72> say im an sertifyed in sql lol
[04:14] <Kyral> Wizard FTW!
[04:14] <mcrandello> cwillu: I can get the kernels to work but it's always a craps shoot of what did I forget to include this time :)
[04:15] <Kyral> KevinIN72: ?
[04:15] <KevinIN72> oop i put "say"
[04:15] <MTecknology> ic56, are you still there?
[04:15] <cwillu> I fear that I didn't tell patrick_ how to actually _restore_ the thing if it didn't work :
[04:15] <KevinIN72> Kyral: forget it im tired
[04:15] <cwillu> mcrandello: I'm fond of the ck patched stock kernel myself :)
[04:15] <Kyral> Even if you DON'T know SQL, it has an excellent Intro chapter
[04:15] <pibe86> hello i am installing an ati video card
[04:15] <nickrud> Kyral, what book?
[04:15] <Kyral> ORielly Books FTW
[04:15] <pibe86> and i put this comand
[04:15] <nickrud> Kyral, ah, cross reading, nm
[04:15] <Kyral> nickrud: O'Reilly's "MySQL In A Nutshell"
[04:15] <mcrandello> If this works I'm never upgrading again
[04:15] <jmurch> where do minimized app go???????????????????????????
[04:16] <mcrandello> (until I get some new hardware)
[04:16] <pibe86> sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:16] <Kyral> jmurch: what app was it?
[04:16] <cwillu> mcrandello: also, there's a config thingie you can include which puts a copy of your live config into proc;  great for not forgetting those essential drivers :)
[04:16] <Rug> In breezy there was an addon/app/util that you could add to the top panel that lets you run a command/app by typing in it's name. (Similar to Run Command:   )  I can't find it in Dapper.
[04:16] <Hexidigital_> Kyral:: ftw = ?
[04:16] <jmurch> any app from the desktop
[04:16] <rigonatti> hi alll
[04:16] <Kyral> Hexidigital_: For The Win
[04:16] <pibe86> after that chmod +x ati-driver-installer-<version>.run
[04:16] <Hexidigital_> Kyral:: ah :)
[04:16] <MTecknology> How can I make my Ubuntu partition that is sitting in the middle of my drive Fill the whole thing?
[04:16] <Kyral> jmurch: look for one of its Icons
[04:16] <pibe86> but i dont know whats the version
[04:16] <Kyral> there might be a "windowlist"
[04:16] <pibe86> how can i know the version??
[04:16] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell pibe86 about version
[04:16] <jmurch> do some work and some dont kyral?
[04:17] <rigonatti> i ahve unbuntu ..then i tryed to instal kde with sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop .... but now seems that my gnome desktop its mixed with some kde specs
[04:17] <Hexidigital_> !version
[04:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:17] <tamago> hi, sorry to be rude, and I know I'm an idiot, but I installed the 686 HT kernel on my Pentium four, and for some reason Dapper won't load xwindows, citing an "internal error". Can anyone shed any light? Even when I select a standard 386 kernel now X refuses to boot.
[04:17] <pibe86> yes, version
[04:17] <Kyral> jmurch: the Window List is a alternate version of the Taskbar
[04:17] <cwillu> tamago: standard as in ubuntu's standard?
[04:17] <Hexidigital_> pibe86:: there ya go... ubotu is still broken, i guess
[04:17] <Kyral> jmurch: instead of buttons on the panel, its a list
[04:17] <jmurch> OK thanks. where is the list?
[04:18] <pibe86> what about broken?
[04:18] <BSG75> hiya, how do I make gDesklet run everytime I logon?
[04:18] <tamago> cwillu: yeah, or the updated -24 kernel I think it is?
[04:18] <thomas_> Just a question... I'm trying to build banshee cvs... and i'm getting that error when checking for forbidden m4 macros. I just forget what package I need to install to fix this, if anybody remembers please let me know
[04:18] <Hexidigital_> pibe86:: whats broken?
[04:18] <jrib> BSG75: add it to system > preferences > session > startup
[04:18] <Kyral> jmurch: if you said they disappear near the clock I'd guess thats where it is
[04:18] <jmurch> OK thanks Kyral
[04:18] <cwillu> tamago: and the new one was also the ubuntu 686 one from the repository?
[04:18] <KevinIN72> Kyral: so sudo aptitude install phpadmin is not working can you help
[04:19] <Kyral> KevinIN72: do you have Universe enabled?
[04:19] <BSG75> thank jrib
[04:19] <rigonatti> how do i complete remove kde now ? ???
[04:19] <KevinIN72> Kyral: ??
[04:19] <BSG75> btw, I LOVE this version of ubuntu
[04:19] <Kyral> !universe
[04:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[04:19] <tamago> xwillu: it was, through the command line with apt-get install rather than symantic, but that shouldn't be a problem
[04:19] <steve> I need to a Java RunTime Env (JRE) anyone? I installed java-common already
[04:19] <AngryElf> anyone here use amarok? -- for whatever reason shuffle doesn't do anything, any ideas?
[04:19] <nickrud> rigonatti, ah that is easy. sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[04:19] <cwillu> tamago: yep
[04:19] <Kyral> KevinIN72: read those links
[04:19] <Hexidigital_> pibe86:: ubotu is our bot... helpful when recurring questions are asked... Seveas was reprogramming him earlier today, i guess hes still donw
[04:19] <Kyral> Java is for pansies :P
[04:19] <cwillu> tamago: dapper?  which exact kernel version?  do the failsafe modes work?
[04:20] <steve> OOo needs it to run macros
[04:20] <cwillu> !anything
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[04:20] <KevinIN72> Kyral: im goin to have to say yeah
[04:20] <mcrandello> !gender
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about gender
[04:20] <hangfire> that is so crazy that GNU Java is default over Sun's Java
[04:20] <mcrandello> official: Ubotu is an it
[04:20] <nickrud> !help
[04:20] <tamago> cwillu, the failsafes work, and I can boot to the shell. But X wont load, I'm using a dapper disk as a Live right now.
[04:20] <Hexidigital_> !test
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[04:20] <rigonatti> nickrud to remove KDE remove libqt3 ?
[04:20] <Kyral> hmm
[04:20] <dooglus> hangfire: GNU Java is free, that's why
[04:20] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: hes broken
[04:20] <tamago> cwillu: it was the latest dapper kernel release, I'll find out which exactly.
[04:20] <nickrud> this new ubotu is not nearly abusive enough
[04:21] <hangfire> so is Sun's Java
[04:21] <Kyral> ubotu gender is I am genderless
[04:21] <cwillu> tamago: off chance, but have you tried an dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver?
[04:21] <nickrud> rigonatti, libqt3-mt
[04:21] <rigonatti> what is it ?
[04:21] <Kyral> damnit didn't work :(
[04:21] <dooglus> hangfire: Sun's Java isn't free.
[04:21] <DBO> cwillu, you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:21] <cwillu> indeed I do
[04:21] <Kyral> as in Freedom!
[04:21] <dooglus> hangfire: it's about as free as IE7
[04:21] <hangfire> dooglus, why have I downloaded it off Sun's site then for free?
[04:21] <cwillu> always get that backwards (second guessing myself everytime)
[04:21] <nickrud> rigonatti, it is the fundamental library for kde. If you truly want to remove nearly all of gnome, the equiv would be libglib2.0-0
[04:21] <SeanTater> Kyral: ubotu's learning is locked, only specific people can teach him
[04:21] <patrick_> cwillu, it didnt work.
[04:21] <pibe86> i download the driver from ati whit this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:21] <steve> Ooo needs JRE Iwhich package do I install? not free?
[04:22] <Kyral> hangfire: Its free as in beer, not free as in Freedom
[04:22] <tamago> cwillu: nope, I haven't. I'm guessing I'm having to reconfigure the xserver to take the new kernel?
[04:22] <Kyral> SeanTater: since yesterday?
[04:22] <dooglus> hangfire: the first hit is free.
[04:22] <hangfire> kyral, oh I see
[04:22] <SeanTater> Kyral: AFAIK
[04:22] <Kyral> hangfire: www.gnu.org for more
[04:22] <cwillu> tamago: I didn't think so, but if x won't start, it would seem to be a first guess
[04:22] <nickrud> rigonatti, but I do not recommend removing libglib, the ubuntu tools use that extensively
[04:22] <cwillu> patrick_:  :(
[04:22] <hangfire> thx Kyral
[04:22] <Intangir> im updating to dapper!
[04:22] <Hexidigital_> ubotu !gender is i am genderless
[04:22] <jigs> hi all
[04:22] <cwillu> patrick_: did it bomb out, or is still just slow?
[04:22] <Intangir> like.. full
[04:22] <Intangir> i have beta
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> hmm... i thought an ! was needed
[04:23] <cwillu> ooo, tamago:  you're running dapper right?
[04:23] <tamago> cwillu: yup
[04:23] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: His learning is locked, you're going to have to bet Seveas
[04:23] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: *beg
[04:23] <Hexidigital_> SeanTater:: i wouldnt doubt it... i know he was reprogramming our faithful bot earlier today
[04:24] <jigs> guys... i've got the dapper (amd64) install disc but I my monitor (and tely.. tried both) don't support the install (text/oem) mode as soon as it goes to the blueish screen. Any ideas?
[04:24] <nickrud> Seveas is dictatorial, in the greek sense
[04:24] <tamago> cwillu: is there any way to run an IRC chat from the command line? I have networking on the borked Dapper install...
[04:24] <steve> I need to a Java RunTime Env (JRE) anyone? I installed java-common already
[04:24] <pibe86> i download the driver from ati whit this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:24] <mcrandello> ubotu !gender is sorry I'm taken
[04:24] <Kyral> !java
[04:24] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: lol
[04:24] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:24] <cwillu> tamago: almost certainly.  Now, do _I_ know how from the command line is a different question now isn't it?  :)
[04:24] <steve> ok thnks dude
[04:24] <Kyral> tamago: Irssi :D
[04:25] <hangfire> tamago, you can run IRC from the live disc
[04:25] <cwillu> patrick_: slow or bombed?
[04:25] <pibe86> i download the driver from ati whit this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper. i need how to know the version of this driver tu put this command chmod +x ati-driver-installer-<version>.run
[04:25] <tamago> hangfire: that's what I'm doing right now :)
[04:25] <jigs> pibe.. problem being is I can't install it at all.. can't select hdd etc...  I can't install from live CD (which works) becuase i'm dual booting
[04:25] <DarkMageZ> mcrandello, please don't play around with the bot, i think their is a version to play around with in #debbots
[04:25] <cwillu> patrick_: can you pastebin me that last command I sent you again now that you've rebooted with it applied?
[04:25] <pibe86> jigs, mmmhhh
[04:26] <Kyral> pibe86: look at the filename
[04:26] <cwillu> patrick_: and pastebin me the xorg.conf file too :)
[04:26] <Kyral> pibe86: if you look at the FILENAME you should be able to figure it out
[04:26] <mcrandello> DarkMageZ: got it, sorry
[04:26] <pibe86> and where is the file
[04:26] <pibe86> ?
[04:26] <tamago> if possible it wouldn't be a problem to reset my installation from the live disk. However there's data I'd rather not lose. Of course I could just re-partition and leave that stuff copied there and safe.
[04:26] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, don't tell me you have classical education
[04:26] <Kyral> pibe86: where did you download it to
[04:26] <tamago> But I'd rather learn something than give in to a fresh install.
[04:26] <Hexidigital_> !usetab is use your tab key to insert a user's full name, if you only type the first few characters
[04:26] <Kyral> pibe86: use common sense....
[04:26] <SeanTater> #debian-bots
[04:26] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: no, i am educated in general :)
[04:27] <nickrud> qed
[04:27] <SeanTater> oops -- sry -- did not mean to say it in here
[04:27] <Hexidigital_> SeanTater:: you need a /j before that
[04:27] <cwillu> so if you were a guy with a new smb problem, who would you ask about it?
[04:27] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: so I noticed
[04:27] <tamago> what's an easy .deb package installer to use from the command line?\
[04:27] <pibe86> i dont know i just put this command sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[04:27] <cwillu> smb was working, but it broke
[04:27] <Hexidigital_> SeanTater:: :)
[04:28] <tamago> I'm going to try this irssi thing.
[04:28] <cwillu> tamago: look at the dpkg line of commands
[04:28] <cwillu> oops
[04:28] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: but ubotu is not in there anyway
[04:28] <Kyral> pibe86: that just installs the stuff the installer needs to run
[04:28] <AngryElf> installing kubuntu was the worst thing I ever did
[04:28] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: why does that supprise you that i laughed? are most others clueless to those references?
[04:28] <cwillu> tamago: if you're installing from the repository, apt-get install <package> is what you're looking for
[04:28] <Kyral> pibe86: you still need to go and download the driver
[04:28] <jigs> pibe.. anyway to do that under windows rather than from running off the live CD? (i'm uber newb btw so have some patience 8)
[04:28] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: or in #supybot-bots
[04:28] <patrick__> cwillu, still slow.
[04:28] <jrib> tamago: irssi is in the repositories, you can use synaptic, apt-get, aptitude
[04:28] <pibe86> Kyral, yes
[04:29] <Kyral> yes what?
[04:29] <cwillu> bah;  patrick_ / patrick__
[04:29] <tamago> Cheers.
[04:29] <patrick__> lol
[04:29] <cwillu> okay, let me say all that again :)
[04:29] <tamago> One question, what's the root password on the LiveCD
[04:29] <tamago> ?
[04:29] <mcrandello> there is none
[04:29] <jrib> ubotu: tell tamago about root
[04:29] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, yes. Although, I'm kinda suprised fewer get by here than most places
[04:29] <mcrandello> you have to use sudo + your password
[04:30] <cwillu> patrick__:  can you pastebin me the grep command output again, as well as your xorg.conf file?
[04:30] <SeanTater> tamago: just use sudo, no passwd
[04:30] <tamago> k
[04:30] <mcrandello> or kdesu or gksudo for gnome windowed apps
[04:30] <Hexidigital_> nickrud:: youd be surprised at what us 25 year olds can accomplish :-)
[04:30] <jigs> or, as another option.. is there a place where i can get screenies of the new install screen by screen so I can do a 'blind' install.. i.e type in the numbers let it install (as I know the monitor will pick up on actual full loadup)
[04:30] <lab2std> Hi
[04:30] <SeanTater> tamago: kdesu for kde apps and gksudo for gnome apps too
[04:30] <patrick__> cwillu, *sighs* I suppose so...
[04:30] <SeanTater> mcrandello: in a busy channel, prefixing the name can be helpful
[04:31] <lab2std> Everyone say with me together
[04:31] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, now that's 25 :)
[04:31] <Hexidigital_> gnite all
[04:31] <lab2std> Say with me
[04:31] <Hexidigital_> hehe, nickrud
[04:31] <SeanTater> Hexidigital_: g-nite
[04:31] <lab2std> Who........................say with me
[04:32] <mcrandello> SeanTater: true, I'll stop bothering the channel for a while, try to crash the system/see if this updated fglrx works any better
[04:32] <tamago> seantater: okay
[04:32] <cwillu> mount /mnt/foo gives me an error (even thought the mount point is 'user'd);  sudo /mnt/foo gives me a mount with a whole bunch of individual letters with '?' for all their properties (ls -l)
[04:32] <tamago> thanks all for the help, may see you in a second
[04:32] <SeanTater> mcrandello: okay
[04:32] <SeanTater> tamago: okay
[04:33] <Flippy> goodnight all, thanks for all the help today. Cya tomorrow after work. :)
[04:33] <SeanTater> Gosh, every time I say something to someone, they leave
[04:33] <nickrud> jigs, I just happened to see the  'blind' install, what are you talking about? there's gotta be a better option
[04:33] <blind> kdj
[04:34] <Zambezi> GFTP is too slow. Is there an option which is quicker? (Transfer via SSH).
[04:34] <Sivik> nickrud, what does it mean when nwn says could not load the Module; could not unpack the module?
[04:34] <nickrud> Sivik, not a clue
[04:34] <chris_> i need gstreamer for ubuntu dapper :/
[04:34] <LadyNikon> dude.
[04:34] <Sivik> darnit
[04:35] <nickrud> Sivik, I'll mail you if you like.
[04:35] <Sivik> nickrud, what file should the modules be in?  the nwm or the modules file?
[04:35] <Zambezi> nickrud, http://pastebin.com
[04:35] <nickrud> Sivik, you could even see where I quit :)
[04:35] <Sivik> nickrud, don't worry about it
[04:35] <chris_> amarok wont have any sound .... says its playing but need gstreamer!!
[04:35] <Sivik> do the module files need to be in the nwm or the modules folder?
[04:35] <nickrud> Zambezi, 4 gigabytes?
[04:35] <patrick__> cwillu, grep command http://wwww.pastebin.com/722478
[04:35] <chris_> im pretty sure if i have gstreamer for amarok everything should be ok
[04:36] <SeanTater> Zambezi: there is sshfs available, along with sftp..
[04:36] <jigs> well... i'm not great on commands in linux yet (trying to install it first to learn), anyho, the live CD boots fine - but it will not allow me to dual boot, so i have the alt CD. The alt CD i assumed was dead as after clicking text mode for install it unpacks then display goes.. rechecked disc (it's fine) and plugged in TV (handles diffent freq) and it's showing the blue install screen does come up.. just completly fubured rez/freq
[04:36] <Zambezi> SeanTater, Which do you prefer?
[04:36] <chris_> anyone have amarok working?
[04:36] <plagerism> how can I increase the size of a tty terminal?  I need it to fill my lcd(secondary screen) so I can calibrate my touchscreen
[04:36] <SeanTater> Zambezi: sshfs mounts ssh areas like mounted areas, sftp is like the original command line ftp
[04:36] <cwillu> patrick__: minus a w
[04:36] <gaz00> !seen lifeless
[04:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about seen lifeless
[04:37] <patrick__> what?
[04:37] <SeanTater> Zambezi: both, they are for totally different application areas
[04:37] <gaz00> !lifeless
[04:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about lifeless
[04:37] <siriusnova> can anyone help me? Im running Xorg-air :0
[04:37] <patrick__> cwillu, what?
[04:37] <siriusnova> how do i start an xterm from a console on that server
[04:37] <Sivik> nickrud, it looks like it has to do with permissions
[04:37] <jigs> so i can't select the options to intall up... So I was wondering if i could find out the how many button presses of each to press to get it to intall on dual boot.. If i'm careful i should get it to at least install, then when it actually boots it should use a stable img for my monitor
[04:37] <chris_> somebody? theres over 700 ppl here who has amarok working?
[04:37] <siriusnova> xterm :0 doesn't do it and i forgot the method
[04:37] <cwillu> patrick, I get nothing at that address
[04:37] <patrick__> oic
[04:37] <nickrud> jigs, the live cd can install as a dual boot
[04:37] <cwillu> nor anything at that number without the extra 'w' :/
[04:37] <SeanTater> gaz00: ubotu is being reprogrammed, equavalent to a lobotomy by human standards, don;t except much from him for a while
[04:38] <nickrud> It did for me, at least the betas did
[04:38] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I can only transfer in 1350 KB/s and that's too slow. I prefer a grafic interface now in the beginning, but for big transfers, 1350 KB/s is too slow.
[04:38] <jigs> i've tried.. many times with the live CD... it doesn't dual boot, the boot loader doesn't write into the boot sector
[04:38] <SeanTater> Zambezi: ssh will not be any faster than ftp
[04:38] <Sivik> what does 500|500 mean for permissions?
[04:38] <siriusnova> hello
[04:38] <gaz00> ahhhh...   well, it was a random guess anyways --  i don't know if he ever had that functionality.
[04:38] <patrick__> cwillu, you sure?   http://wwww.pastebin.com/722478
[04:38] <siriusnova> can someone help me, i started a local Xserver via Xorg-air :0
[04:38] <SeanTater> Zambezi: it will be slower because it encrypts the data
[04:38] <gaz00> SeanTater: thanks anyways!
[04:38] <siriusnova> how do i start an xterm in that server?
[04:38] <siriusnova> from a console
[04:38] <siriusnova> xterm :0 doesn't do it :(
[04:39] <nickrud> jigs, go ahead with the install, when it asks if you want a boot floppy say yes, and make one.
[04:39] <KevinIN72> anyone know what this is "MySQL extension not loaded in PHP"
[04:39] <jigs> trust me.. i got up a linux guru (i know.. we all have them) and we tried for 4 hours... even came on here and after a while was told.. get alt. you can't do with live
[04:39] <Sivik> yes
[04:39] <Sivik> thank god
[04:39] <siriusnova> anyone?
[04:39] <patrick__> cwillu, heres the xorg.conf       http://wwww.pastebin.com/722479
[04:39] <neotard> KevinIN72:  when do you get it?  in a php script?
[04:39] <nickrud> jigs, ok then, I will trust you. My experience is older
[04:39] <Sivik> nickrud, the issue is with permissions
[04:39] <SeanTater> Zambezi: all KDE apps support transparently using sftp, but having never extensively used Gnome, you will need to see for your self..
[04:39] <KevinIN72> neotard: i was trying to go to a php file on the web
[04:39] <Zambezi> SeanTater, When I have too install a FTP-server then. I heard good things about vsftpd. I really would like to have Implicit SSL, but I never get confirmed if vsftpd contains that.
[04:39] <jigs> i was very much hoping to live install it.. would of saved some hair from being pulled out..
[04:40] <neotard> KevinIN72:  it's a configuration issue on the server side.
[04:40] <nickrud> Sivik, got it grokked then?
[04:40] <Sivik> grokked?
[04:40] <neotard> KevinIN72:  nothing to worry about on your end if you're just browsing web pages :)
[04:40] <nickrud> !dict grok
[04:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about dict grok
[04:40] <Sivik> nickrud: all i had to do is run via sudo ./nwn
[04:40] <SeanTater> Zambezi: well -- I know that SSH is extremely secure, so if that makes a difference, ssh wins
[04:40] <nickrud> argh, no dictionary!?
[04:40] <KevinIN72> neotard: no cuz it was on my server
[04:40] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I use serverinstall and Xubuntu. So I can't have any X-application on the serverinstallation.
[04:40] <Sivik> nickrud, now i have to figure out how to change all the permissions to my user
[04:40] <SeanTater> Zambezi: rsync also can use ssh, a big plus for me
[04:41] <aeon17x> nickrud: it would spam the channel a bit, which isn't a good idea
[04:41] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I like security. That's a priority for me. I set sshd: ALL in hosts.deny. ;-)
[04:41] <aeon17x> nickrud: you can use 'dict <keyword>' in firefox
[04:41] <neotard> KevinIN72:  Ah, well it sounds like you're trying to do something with MySQL then, and you haven't loaded the appropriate module to do that.  Check your php.ini file, there's a list of loadable modules.. make sure the mysql module is uncommented.
[04:41] <nickrud> Sivik, from the top directory, chmod -R u+r *  (will make them all readable) u+rw readable & writeable
[04:41] <patrick__> cwillu, heres the xorg.conf       http://wwww.pastebin.com/722479
[04:41] <SeanTater> Zambezi: okay, I think there are a few kde apps available which don;t require the whole boatload of apps to do such a thing
[04:41] <neotard> did someone say SSH is really secure?  O.o
[04:41] <nickrud> aeon17x, true, but I was hoping. I have a dict server locally
[04:42] <SeanTater> Zambezi: kommander, maybe, I;m not sure that's ity
[04:42] <jigs> nickrud: any other ideas... all i can think of is blind install (99% chance to fry my xp install) or getting another gpu  (btw.. i got x850xtpe) to do install with
[04:42] <Sivik> nickrud: do i need to make them readable or both?
[04:42] <SurfnKid> neotard: i now know it is. but its not?
[04:42] <SeanTater> Zambezi: oops -- nope, not kommander
[04:42] <Sivik> nickrud: i guess they need to be both for all users, all i want to do is to change who owns them
[04:42] <nickrud> Sivik, rw is just fine, under your home dir especially if you're the only user of the machine
[04:42] <Zambezi> SeanTater, But when I transfered files between Windows and Linux, the clients speed where between 1500-3500 KB/s so there got to be a quckier client.
[04:42] <Sivik> ok
[04:42] <neotard> SurfnKid:  it's like any other service.. configured incorrectly and used wrong it's no more secure than telnet :)
[04:42] <SeanTater> Zambezi: try krusader
[04:42] <Sivik> nickrud, i'm the only one here
[04:43] <SurfnKid> oh right
[04:43] <nickrud> home dir, rw then
[04:43] <eFoX> :'(
[04:43] <eFoX> damm this wireless
[04:43] <SeanTater> Zambezi: krisader has a gftp-ish feel anyway
[04:43] <cwillu> patrick__:  try commenting out the 4 line SubSection "Display" block with the Depth 24 line in it (last entry in the Section "Screen" block)
[04:43] <Zambezi> SeanTater, Does krusader works on Xubuntu?
[04:43] <Sivik> neotard, SSH is called a secure shell
[04:44] <Sivik> neotard, its secure, not sure to what point
[04:44] <SeanTater> Zambezi: it will install several kde libs to work, but it;s better than installing konqueror
[04:44] <nickrud> aeon17x, just tell people to open a private window with ubotu, it should be the guru
[04:44] <patrick__> cwillu, what???
[04:44] <Zambezi> neotard, Since you know - how should I make my SSH more secure?
[04:44] <KevinIN72> can anyone just give me the basics on how to setup a webserver
[04:45] <sivanicon> KevinIN72 sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:45] <Zambezi> SeanTater, I prefer too have a clean computer.
[04:45] <nickrud> KevinIN72, isee sivanicon
[04:45] <neotard> KevinIN72:  "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[04:45] <gavagai> KevinIN72, install apache2 and stick your site in /var/www/
[04:45] <neotard> KevinIN72:  then read the apache docs :)
[04:45] <patrick__> cwillu, ok nevermind
[04:45] <SeanTater> Zambezi: to answer another person;s question, you could use private key auth instead of just password, and make sure aes256 encryption is default
[04:45] <KevinIN72> what if i want to run a php site
[04:45] <j-linux> I'm downloading some modes to emacs (trying to learn) -- how do I know where synaptic is putting these files?  I'm trying to find 'xxml' but I'm not sure if it came with ubuntu.
[04:45] <cwillu> patrick__: in xorg.conf (sorry, deleted that bit by accident)
[04:45] <lightstar> Zambezi, make sure u disable root login, limit the max auth retires, and if possible only allow a specifics users are allowed to login
[04:45] <neotard> KevinIN72:  install the php package
[04:45] <patrick__> cwillu, so restart after changing?
[04:46] <sivanicon> KevinIN72 and might as well get the mysql package also
[04:46] <nickrud> j-linux, a general answer: dpkg -L <packagename> will list all the files in the package
[04:46] <eclypse> and I return
[04:46] <j-linux> nickrud: thanks...
[04:46] <eclypse> on different computer.
[04:46] <nickrud> emacs ~= evil
[04:46] <cwillu> eclypse: nooooOOOOoooo!!
[04:46] <Sivik> nickrud: i'm in, it works
[04:47] <eclypse> cwillu, lol
[04:47] <KevinIN72> well the thing is i want to setup a site with a forum, is there any easy way to do that
[04:47] <neotard> nickrud:  jedit ftw :)
[04:47] <tamago> hmmm. interesting, fruitless but interesting
[04:47] <eclypse> cwillu, I'm restarting my laptop now.
[04:47] <jigs> i guess temp gpu the way to go (darn)... have a nice day y'all
[04:47] <nickrud> Sivik, great, now, get past chapter 2 before fallling asleep :)
[04:47] <tamago> aparrantly xserver-xorg doesn't exist.
[04:47] <eclypse> wtf
[04:47] <eclypse> that doesn't seem logical, at all
[04:47] <eclypse> ( I was talking to tamago, btw
[04:47] <Zambezi> lightstar, No root actived, sshd: ALL in hosts.deny just one (internal) IP-number in hosts.allow, change port in sshd_config. That's done, but limit the max auth retires is what, and where can I find it? And where can I specife users allowed to login?
[04:47] <DrKevorkian> Can anyone help me? I can't get firefox to produce audio ever.
[04:48] <neotard> tamago:  sure it does
[04:48] <farous> is the netselect tool part of ubuntu too?
[04:48] <SeanTater> Zambezi: try looking in the man page for sshd_config
[04:48] <eclypse> cwillu, I got a blue screen x server errror!
[04:48] <Sivik> nickrud: lol
[04:48] <eFoX> SurfnKid: you were able to help me before. I'm hoping you can now as well. My wireless no longer works. It was good yesterday, but today it is not. iwconfig shoes my wireless interface there, but iwlist returns "no scan results"
[04:48] <lightstar> Zambezi, u need to change it in sshd_config and add, MaxAuthTries 3, AllowUsers <user>
[04:48] <tamago> eclypse: it was very strange, my conf. wouldn't let me start irssi because it couldn't create a .temp directory..
[04:48] <sivanicon> When I type 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' it dont open it.  What is the deal?
[04:48] <Sivik> nickrud, all i have to do is run it as a sudo
[04:49] <SurfnKid> mmmm
[04:49] <Zambezi> lightstar, And my password is change an hour ago to a strange one with lower case, "higher"-case, numbers och %#-things.
[04:49] <tamago> does anyone know how to reset the boot sequence easily, possibly without having to reinstall the whole of Dapper?
[04:49] <SurfnKid> eFoX: what was your adapter
[04:49] <cwillu> sivanicon: you're not putting a '&' after it are you?
[04:49] <lightstar> Zambezi, u changed your passwd?
[04:49] <nickrud> Sivik, then set up proper perms :)
[04:49] <sivanicon>  cwillu no, it just goes to another line to enter a command
[04:49] <Zambezi> lightstar, Yes, an hour ago.
[04:50] <eFoX> SurfnKid: i am using ndiswrapper for the bcm43xx chipset and yesterday i HAD wlan0 AND now that is gone and in its place i have eth1
[04:50] <cwillu> sivanicon: sure you don't have one already open?
[04:50] <SurfnKid> oh right, Dapper?
[04:50] <eFoX> SurfnKid: yes
[04:50] <sivanicon> cwillu id assume i could have as many as i want open but no i dont have any open
[04:50] <cwillu> sivanicon: with out the '&', it should stay at that prompt until you close gedit, unless you already have gedit open
[04:50] <cwillu> sivanicon: if you already have one open, the file should open in a new tab
[04:50] <alexcamilo> is 3.1 gigs enough for a 5.10 install on ppc? the installer says i might have run out of space in the /var filesystem.
[04:50] <SurfnKid> let me check somethin
[04:51] <eclypse> cwillu, I got a blue screen x server errror!
[04:51] <lightstar> Zambezi, thats good. you also might choose to your public/private key..it makes it more secure
[04:51] <lightstar> Zambezi, s/your/use
[04:51] <sivanicon> cwillu even when i do 'sudo nano /etc/fstab' it doesnt work
[04:51] <Zambezi> lightstar, How can I do that?
[04:52] <DrKevorkian> someone else must have had this problem at one point. I can't get audio playing during flash media viewed through firefox
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > anyone know an ssh server for ubuntu ?
[04:52] <eclypse> cwillu, I got a blue screen x server errror!
[04:52] <gavagai> Zambezi, google 'ssh keygen'
[04:52] <gavagai> [Ex0r] , openssh-server
[04:52] <bimberi> [Ex0r] : openssh-server
[04:52] <eclypse> this shit is frustrating the hell out of me
[04:52] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: 3.1 might be pushing it
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > thank you :)
[04:52] <nickrud> Sivik, sudo chmod -R a+rw , that should clear up the sudo thing, or chown -R you:you *
[04:52] <Sivik> nickrud, i will
[04:52] <bimberi> [Ex0r] : 'sudo aptitude install ssh' (will install it)
[04:52] <Sivik> nickrud, very well, i'm playing for now
[04:53] <SurfnKid> eFoX: On my installation, Breezy.. I had to type 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' after all the instructions n reboot were done. That was the only time i did it, it never disappeared again
[04:53] <farous> eclypse: make it easy for your self dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg follow the menu and if you do nto know just pickup the default
[04:53] <Sivik> bimberi: its actually openssh not just ssh
[04:53] <nickrud> Sivik, enjoy
[04:53] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: but you might want a slimmer vesrion of ubuntu for such a small HD
[04:53] <SurfnKid> eFoX: you might have to type it again see what it does
[04:53] <cwillu> eclypse: after you installed xgl, how confident are you that you completely uninstalled it?
[04:53] <Sivik> [Ex0r] , its sudo apt-get install openssh
[04:53] <lightstar> Zambezi, ssh-keygen -t dsa
[04:53] <SeanTater> alexcamilo: xubuntu might do the trick
[04:53] <cwillu> eclypse: i.e., relinking things to their old places if you ln'd them to xgl files, etc
[04:53] <lightstar> Zambezi, copy the id_dsa.pub to the server and rename it to sth like authorized_keys (depending on what is the config on the server)
[04:53] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks for all your help
[04:53] <eclypse> farous, do yuo think of me as a moron? Iv'e done that, over and over
[04:53] <nerdzyboy> how do I configure network?
[04:54] <eclypse> cwillu, I don't think I reinstalled it all the way
[04:54] <bimberi> Sivik: hm, i only see a package called ssh
[04:54] <nickrud> Sivik, handholding is my speciality
[04:54] <Zambezi> lightstar, Can we take this in pm?
[04:54] <alexcamilo> ah thanx
[04:54] <eclypse> cwillu, err, uninstall
[04:54] <GoClick> I have a job that's going to take a couple of hours, maybe a day to run. I only realisticaly have access to the server via SSH so I can't just start it and then ctrl+z and logout cause it gets killed. I have to interact with the console before the really long part happens, enter commands and whatnot and What can I do so it keeps running after I logout? I can kill the pid in the morning when I get back to work.
[04:54] <nerdzyboy> I installed a new network card but I can't get online...
[04:54] <babywalks> i am now using "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - the Dapper Drake - released in June 2006" but the hibernate function does not work.
[04:54] <bimberi> nerdzyboy: System -> Adiminstration -> Networking
[04:54] <gavagai> GoClick, screen
[04:54] <nerdzyboy> k
[04:55] <lightstar> Zambezi, sure
[04:55] <farous> eclypse: lol ok just retrace your steps then. another way purge your xorg files and reistall the xserver-xorg
[04:55] <eclypse> farous, I can't remember shit lol
[04:55] <cwillu> lol
[04:55] <eclypse> farous, ADD tends too do that
[04:55] <gavagai> GoClick, start screen, start the job, disconnect.  then in the morning:  screen -dr
[04:55] <babywalks> it complains about the HAL, but the hal package is the newest in the repository, any idea/
[04:55] <marc> Is running a firewall necessary for a home user behind a linksys router?
[04:55] <eclypse> for linux, not necessarally, marsc
[04:55] <eclypse> marc*
[04:55] <eclypse> you are as secure as your root password
[04:55] <eclypse> remember that
[04:55] <SurfnKid> eFoX: try that see how it goes
[04:55] <cwillu> eclypse: I'm not entirely sure this will work, or leave you in a workable state (mind you, x isn't working at all right now, right?)
[04:56] <eclypse> cwillu, right
[04:56] <bimberi> marc: same setup here, i don't run one
[04:56] <marc> eclypse, thanks
[04:56] <eclypse> cwillu, but I think editing the xorg.conf and removing the comments will remake it to normal
[04:56] <cwillu> eclypse: apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[04:56] <slugicide> Can someone point me to a HowTo for wireless networking windows and ubuntu?
[04:56] <eclypse> marc, no problem, if you have a password like t49350ure90gjedj9035jt0934jt903j4t90j4309tj3409tj your pretty much unhackable ;)
[04:56] <SurfnKid> !wifi
[04:56] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[04:56] <cwillu> eclypse: and then apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:56] <tamago> what is the command to unmount a volume?
[04:56] <eclypse> cwillu, will this take a long time? i'm on dialup mind yo
[04:56] <eclypse> you*
[04:56] <cwillu> eclypse: gah
[04:57] <bimberi> tamago: sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint
[04:57] <eclypse> cwillu, lol
[04:57] <sivanicon> cwillu It appears everytime I use sudo to run a command it doesnt work
[04:57] <tamago> cheers
[04:57] <cwillu> sivanicon: try sudo -s, and then run the commands without sudo
[04:57] <tamago> why it can't be "unmount" I'll never know
[04:57] <cwillu> eclypse: I _think_ it'll use the cached versions
[04:57] <marc> eclypse, I was just asking because I ran sheild up off grc.com and it said all failed, but all ports were closed, but not stealth
[04:57] <cwillu> i.e., we're not clearing the apt cache, nor are we moving to a new version
[04:57] <eclypse> marc, thats because they probably oculdn't get through your root pass
[04:57] <bimberi> tamago: just one of the wonderful vagiaries of Unix :)
[04:57] <farous> sivanicon: make sure you have admin rights
[04:57] <gavagai> marc, stealth is BS
[04:58] <cwillu> it should be smart about it, rather than making me cry :)
[04:58] <eclypse> marc, that test was probably intended ofr windows, anyways
[04:58] <michael____> Can someone please tell me how to create a root user in unbuntu
[04:58] <marc> thanks
[04:58] <eclypse> marc, your root passowrd is the key to security
[04:58] <michael____> i tried gdmsetup says im noot root for some reason
[04:58] <GoClick> thank you gavagai
[04:58] <eclypse> marc: unlike windows.
[04:58] <sivanicon> farous i have sudo to run commands from the start and always worked
[04:58] <cwillu> michael____: put 'sudo ' in front of the command
[04:58] <bimberi> michael____: 'gksudo gdmsetup' and you'll be running it as rook
[04:58] <eclypse> cwillu, I'll attempt it now... lol
[04:58] <bimberi> *root
[04:58] <cwillu> sudo whatever-you-typed-befor
[04:58] <bimberi> !gksudo
[04:58] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[04:58] <cwillu> eclypse: good luck :)
[04:59] <michael____> Thanks bro
[04:59] <eclypse> cwillu...I'm gonna need it lol
[04:59] <gavagai> GoClick, you're welcome
[04:59] <cwillu> so, anyone wanna help me troubleshoot some samba issues?
[04:59] <swim> can oggs play on ipods?
[04:59] <eclypse> I don't even know how to get a anymous FTP for windows setup
[04:59] <SeanTater> eclypse: if it took 10 cycles per hack, that passwd it would take a 2.8 GHZ processor 796332137294741755453467096728102408501824649 years to finish
[05:00] <cwillu> eclypse: that's not the easy way of transfering files anyway
[05:00] <eclypse> wow
[05:00] <eclypse> thats insane, seantater
[05:00] <eclypse> lol
[05:00] <SurfnKid> eFoX: did it work
[05:00] <eclypse> thanks for conferming my hope in linux :D
[05:00] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks again
[05:00] <neotard> SeanTater:  but you have that big number to 1 chance to get it right the first time ;)
[05:00] <tamago> how does one mount ntfs writable?
[05:00] <tamago> (I know this is dangerous)
[05:01] <SeanTater> neotard: first I think I will use that luck to win the lottery a few billion times
[05:01] <eFoX> SurfnKid: sorry, comp froze...trying it now
[05:01] <neotard> lol
[05:01] <cwillu> so patrick__ has come back yet;  suppose that means he's working now?
[05:01] <cwillu> tamago: oh boy :)
[05:01] <eFoX> SurfnKid: i did modprobe ndiswrapper as root, and then i tried iwlist scan, and same thing " no scan results"
[05:01] <SurfnKid> eFoX: thought something had happened heh
[05:02] <SurfnKid> eFoX: did you reboot?
[05:02] <cwillu> tamago: captivefs is probably the best option, but I haven't tried installing it lately (and it needs a dll or two from windows if I recall correctly)
[05:02] <bimberi> !fuse > tamago
[05:02] <eFoX> SurfnKid: no. let me reboot.
[05:02] <eFoX> brb
[05:02] <SurfnKid> eFoX: try that yep
[05:03] <swim> can oggs play on ipods?
[05:03] <cwillu> tamago: other write support options for linux are so far either unmaintained, or still fairly limited in what they support (number of files per directory, types of changes that can be made, etc)
[05:03] <bimberi> tamago: did ubotu send you a pm?  it's the first time i've used the new syntax
[05:03] <Warbo> swim: Only with RockBox firmware
[05:03] <PORDO> swim nope.
[05:03] <cwillu> swim: don't know, google search is probably a better bet to find out
[05:03] <PORDO> swim unless you use rockbox maybe.
[05:03] <nickrud> Sivik, np, thanks for the opportunity to examine your box.
[05:03] <nickrud> rflol
[05:03] <cwillu> giggle
[05:03] <tamago> bimberi: nope, didn't get a pm... but then I'm using irssi
[05:03] <swim> thx
[05:03] <cwillu> tamago: how's that working for you?  :)
[05:04] <tamago> rather delightful
[05:04] <tamago> all the standard irc commands
[05:04] <nickrud> Sivik, a joke, a joke, if you knew my network skills, you'd be laughing harder
[05:04] <Cntryboy> To extract a tar.bz2 is this the same as tar? Can anyone help me with the command please
[05:04] <tamago> but none of the sugar-coated crap
[05:04] <eclypse> cwillu, it still has the no screens found error
[05:04] <neotard> tamago:  you mean you want to IRC w/o a mouse? :p
[05:04] <nickrud> Cntryboy, tar xf <filename> , all supported formats
[05:04] <Warbo> Cntryboy: "tar -xjf file.tar.bz2"
[05:05] <bimberi> tamago
[05:05] <Cntryboy> what about -xvvf ?
[05:05] <farous> eclypse: did you remove all the xorg files. xserver-xorg is just a meta package
[05:05] <bimberi> tamago: hmm
[05:05] <neotard> "bzip2 -c -d <filename> | tar -cvf" is more fun :D
[05:05] <bimberi> !fuse
[05:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:05] <nickrud> Cntryboy, it slows down the extraction, but shows what's happening
[05:05] <Warbo> Cntryboy: That will give you loads of output
[05:05] <eclypse> farous, I did as cwillu suggested.
[05:05] <bimberi> tamago: that's what i was trying to send ^^^^^^
[05:05] <Cntryboy> okay so use -xjf then?
[05:05] <eclypse> farous, do you know all the XGL packages that I can remove through apt-get ?
[05:05] <sivanicon> so how do you get removed from sudoers?
[05:05] <Aven> Hey all
[05:05] <nickrud> Cntryboy, xf is sufficent
[05:06] <Warbo> Who the hell wrote these ubotu infos? FUSE gives you a guide on NTFS but nothing else?
[05:06] <farous> eclypse: i just use a short cut aptitude purge ~nxorg
[05:06] <Aven> my resolution only shows 1024x768, how would I change that?
[05:06] <eclypse> exact command?
[05:06] <farous> will remove anypackage with xorg in it. then install ubuntu desktop
[05:06] <Cntryboy> k thx
[05:06] <Aven> it doesn't give an option for 1280, how do I add it?
[05:06] <SurfnKid> Aven: Ubuntu?
[05:06] <Aven> yeah
[05:06] <nickrud> sivanicon, sudo deluser <usrname> admin
[05:06] <Aven> I read the tutorial, but didn't help
[05:06] <farous> eclypse: type man aptitude to konow how to use it
[05:06] <SurfnKid> Aven: have you configured your GPU driver
[05:06] <byron> how do you upgrade to drapper drake?
[05:07] <neotard> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  ^^
[05:07] <farous> eclypse: but you need a net connection just in case
[05:07] <byron> do I have to install all the updates that it presently has
[05:07] <Aven> SurfnKid: what's that?
[05:07] <byron> and then go to drapper
[05:07] <dooglus> byron: it depends what you're upgrading from
[05:07] <sivanicon> i never ran a command like that but yet i have been stripped of it?
[05:07] <SurfnKid> Aven: your video card might not work on an out of the box install
[05:07] <eclypse> I'de prefer not reading through a tun of stuff, since I have ADD, could you please just give me the full command? farous
[05:07] <byron> im upgrading from 5.10
[05:07] <Cntryboy> mmmm didn't work... cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo tar -xjf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2
[05:07] <Cntryboy> Password:
[05:07] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$
[05:07] <farous> eclypse: i did
[05:07] <SurfnKid> Aven: so you might have to do some commands to get it running correctly. let me ask you what card do you have
[05:07] <farous> sudo aptiutde purge ~nxorg
[05:08] <dooglus> Cntryboy: it worked
[05:08] <byron> do I have to install all the software updates before I upgrade?
[05:08] <dooglus> Cntryboy: it would have told you if it hadn't
[05:08] <nickrud> Cntryboy, now try sudo tar xf gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-binary-1.0.7-i586.tar.bz2
[05:08] <Cntryboy> where did it extract it to then?
[05:08] <stevejenson> anybody have luck installing xubuntu 6.06 on parallels for windows?
[05:08] <farous> eclypse: and if you bothered and read few lines you would have never broken yor x-server :)
[05:08] <valehru> Hey guys, anyone else using azureus and dapper x64?  Every time an alert comes up from azureus the message refuses to leave the bottom right hand corner of the screen....I have to reboot azureus to get rid of it....any suggestions?
[05:08] <neotard> Cntryboy:  "bzip2 -c -d <filename> | tar -xvf"
[05:08] <dooglus> Cntryboy: the current directory
[05:08] <Cntryboy> shouldn't it extracted the folder on desktop?
[05:08] <Aven> SurfnKid: how would I find out?
[05:08] <SurfnKid> um
[05:08] <SurfnKid> type this
[05:08] <Cntryboy> neotard what does that do?
[05:09] <SurfnKid> lspci
[05:09] <neotard> Cntryboy:  nvm, I didn't see the rest.  dooglus told you the right thing.
[05:09] <farous> valehru: it is common problem here too
[05:09] <Warbo> Does someone know how I can make a random number with a set maximum in bash?
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, I didn't BREAK it perse, I followed cwillo's advice ;)
[05:09] <Sivik> nickrud, stupid question, but don't rangers mimerize spells?
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, I merely need to edit that xorg file, and it'll be fine
[05:09] <Aven> SurfnKid: whenI used windows xp, 1280 resolution worked
[05:09] <neotard> Cntryboy:  it does the same thing you just did though.  it uses bzip to decompress and pipes that to tar for unarchiving.
[05:09] <IcemanV9> how come i don't see core anywhere on my box when the app crashed??
[05:09] <Cntryboy> now it showed up as usr with a key lock on it
[05:09] <Aven> ubuntu doesn't though
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, but this bloody screen wont go away...
[05:09] <Cntryboy> so shouldn't I move this to the usr dir?
[05:09] <eclypse> farous, nevermind I finally got it to leave
[05:10] <farous> eclypse: i have broken xserver a lot too so so not worry :)
[05:10] <valehru> farous, any fix for it? or is it common only to dapper?  Someone suggested uninstalling the non sun version of java, and install the sun jdk/jre, but still no fix
[05:10] <neotard> Aven:  does CTRL-+ do anything?
[05:10] <dooglus> Cntryboy: didn't it make a directory called 'usr' in Desktop?
[05:10] <neotard> just out of curiousity :)
[05:10] <SurfnKid> Aven: XP might have configured your card with PNP but Ubuntu might not have, especially if its a really new card. is it ATI
[05:10] <Cntryboy> yes it did dooglus
[05:10] <farous> valehru: i run sun java here
[05:10] <nickrud> Sivik, we were so close to off topic, we have now crossed over
[05:10] <Cntryboy> I said that
[05:10] <eclypse> farous, what editor works with just the black screen linux bash?
[05:10] <Aven> neotard: Ctrl and +?
[05:10] <eFoX> SurfnKid: damm. Same thing
[05:10] <valehru> farous, yeah me too...
[05:10] <DewBoy3d> can anyone help a new user with a mouse problem? my mouse (logitech optical USB) stops responding about a minute after  logging into my dekstop.
[05:10] <Cntryboy> but shouldn't that usr folder be in the usr directory?
[05:10] <neotard> Aven:  YEAH :)
[05:10] <eclypse> farous, text editor
[05:10] <neotard> oops
[05:10] <sivanicon> How do you check the groups you are apart of?
[05:10] <valehru> ANyone else having that azureus problem?
[05:10] <farous> eclypse: nano or pico
[05:11] <Sivik> nickrud, ok
[05:11] <Aven> neotard: nope it doesn't
[05:11] <eclypse> farous, AH ok, I forgot about nano, lol
[05:11] <eclypse> farous, told you I can't remember shit
[05:11] <farous> valehru: i can only get rid of it by killing java
[05:11] <dooglus> Cntryboy: you can "cd /; sudo tar xf ~/Desktop/gyach*bz2" to extract it to the right place
[05:11] <Sivik> join me in nickrud then
[05:11] <valehru> but doesnt that kill azureus then?
[05:11] <nickrud> Sivik, off-topic
[05:11] <Warbo> Cntryboy: If I extracted something like that the I would put all of it's stuff in /usr/local
[05:11] <KevinIN72> what is a good php site setup thing for ex. php nuke
[05:11] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: i have one same as yours; unplug it and plug it back
[05:11] <Sivik> ok
[05:11] <neotard> Aven:  What he's saying is that your card probably just isn't setup the same is all.  idk if there's an easier way to do it, but if you open up a command line and run through "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you will run through the xserver config
[05:11] <nickrud> there are other users of nwn, who know more than i
[05:12] <SurfnKid> eFoX: :S even after sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:12] <PORDO> swim i use cowon products, which support vorbis and flac, and i find them far superior to anything apple offers.
[05:12] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: and try other usb port if you have more than one, too
[05:12] <eclypse> farous, x is booting now
[05:12] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: thanks, i'll try that. any clue why it's happening?
[05:12] <farous> eclypse: great wish you luck my friend
[05:12] <Cntryboy> warbo how do I move it there with out overwriting the usr folder
[05:12] <neotard> Aven:  when you go through the configuration you can choose what resolutions you want displayed there, and it's in a fairly easy, user-friendly interface :)
[05:12] <eFoX> SurfnKid: ya :'(
[05:12] <eclypse> farous, well now its saying mesa instead of no screens found :D, progress is being made.
[05:12] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: interrupt conflict .. i had to use one specific for my mouse to be usable all the time.
[05:12] <swim> PORDO I only got the ipod because it was 60 bucks usd... and my rio karma busted
[05:12] <dooglus> valehru: that's a bug in gtk+, not azureus.  recent betas of azureus work around it though
[05:12] <farous> eclypse: if there are stil prob look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what is wrong
[05:13] <neotard> Aven:  read the dialogues!
[05:13] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: *specific usb port
[05:13] <valehru> really...ok....I'll check it out...thanks dooglus..
[05:13] <PORDO> swim my rio karma busted three times in a row, and i finally went through hell to get a refund.  rio SUCKS.
[05:13] <Warbo> Cntryboy: "sudo cp -r usr/* /usr/local"  I think (notice there is NOT a slash before the first usr)
[05:13] <nickrud> Sivik, there is a lively community of nwn users on bioware
[05:13] <Netbrian> Every now and then, my Ubuntu box just suddenly freezes, and won't respond until after a reboot.  I'm using the latest public release, and only run GAIM and Firefox when this happens.  I don't think this is a hardware issue -- it never happens no matter how long I run Windows.
[05:13] <SurfnKid> eFoX: i cant believe you even got wlan0 to show up, i couldnt even get that far. does eth0 now replace wlan0?
[05:13] <valehru> dooglus, what version gets around it?
[05:13] <dooglus> valehru, farous, get a recent beta of azureus and the bug goes away.
[05:13] <PORDO> swim use rockbox man, from what i've read it works great.
[05:13] <eclypse> farous, lol, I'de rather not look through 1000 lines of errors :D
[05:13] <Sivik> ok
[05:13] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: can you explain how you fixed it. i am a very new linux user
[05:13] <eFoX> SurfnKid: i rejusted my /etc/network/interfaces and now i just restarted it, and im going to see what that does
[05:13] <Netbrian> Anyone have an idea what might cause this?
[05:13] <dooglus> valehru: any recent beta.  I'm using 2.4.0.3_B42 and it's fine.
[05:13] <eFoX> SurfnKid: wlan0 was replaced with eth1
[05:13] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:13] <valehru> dooglus, currently running 2.4.0.2
[05:13] <valehru> cool
[05:14] <valehru> will check it out
[05:14] <SurfnKid> eFoX: oh ok well check if it works on eth1
[05:14] <eclypse> farous, but progress is most definately being made
[05:14] <dooglus> valehru: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[05:14] <neotard> is there an easier way to configure X than hacking the xorg.conf file OR doing dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:14] <PORDO> Netbrian no, but that's certainly bizarre.
[05:14] <farous> eclypse: you will spend longer times with trial an error. unless you are dam lucky ;)
[05:14] <sorcre> Hello, I was setting up my Nvidia drivers and somehow my X configuration file was corrupted. I looked for the backup that was syppose to be made but it's not there. Is there anything I can do?
[05:14] <eFoX> SurfnKid: nope. I tried most interfaces.
[05:14] <eclypse> off topic question, has anyone ever brute force hacked a windows computer?
[05:14] <Warbo> Netbrian: It may be a problem with proprietary drivers, if you use one
[05:14] <eclypse> remotely
[05:14] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: on my box, i have three usb ports .. only one port is very stable for my mouse and other two are not stable.
[05:14] <Netbrian> Is there anything I could do to log this sort of behavior to find out for sure?
[05:14] <eFoX> SurfnKid: let me try and make this simpler, im going to make my network open with no wep
[05:14] <ardchoille> Can I change the resolution on tty1-6 simply by adding "vga=791" to menu.lst or do I need something more?
[05:14] <Warbo> eclypse: There is a Live CD which can "recover" Windows passwords
[05:15] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: other two are bad enough that i have to unplug and plug it back every 30 minutes or so.
[05:15] <neotard> Netbrian:  what ubuntu are you using?
[05:15] <eclypse> warbo, I am aware, are you talking about ophcrack?
[05:15] <Netbrian> Dapper Drake.
[05:15] <neotard> Netbrian:  did you upgrade from breezy badger?
[05:15] <Warbo> eclypse: I was actually talking about RIP, but there are probably a few
[05:15] <Netbrian> No, this was a fresh install.
[05:15] <eclypse> warbo, can you send me a link to RIP?
[05:15] <Cntryboy> dang how do I move this usr folder on desktop to trash, it won't let me
[05:15] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: i see. just switched ports and is working now. we'll see how it goes
[05:16] <eclypse> farous, damnit, now its saying no screens found again!
[05:16] <Cntryboy> stupid lock on it
[05:16] <valehru> dooglus, thx...
[05:16] <Warbo> eclypse: Google? (I can't really be bothered at 4:16 AM)
[05:16] <eclypse> warbo, what can be achieved through brute force hacking?
[05:16] <eclypse> warbo, I understand
[05:16] <neotard> Netbrian:  I had a 'similar' (that could totally be untrue because random freezes could be a number of things) after upgradeing to dapper.
[05:16] <Cntryboy> I tried sudo rm usr with in that dir
[05:16] <DewBoy3d> IcemanV9: thanks for the help
[05:16] <IcemanV9> DewBoy3d: sure.
[05:16] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:16] <Warbo> eclypse: A valid excuse for purchasing extremely expensive computing equipment
[05:16] <Netbrian> Any idea how to at least run some sort of logging?
[05:16] <valehru> Cntryboy, sudo -R directoryName
[05:17] <eclypse> warbo lol...
[05:17] <dooglus> valehru: did you get it working?  if not, you need to rename the .jar file over the top of the old one
[05:17] <valehru> Cntryboy, sudo rm -R directoryName
[05:17] <eclypse> warbo, I'm still not entirely sure of that answer.
[05:17] <neotard> Netbrian:  well, you could definitely check /var/log for stuff
[05:17] <Cntryboy> what does -R mean
[05:17] <Lukian> man rm
[05:17] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: if you're inside that usr dir, you can't rm it unless there is another usr dir inside the usr dir. Make sense?
[05:17] <Lukian> @ Cntryboy
[05:17] <Warbo> Ok, I'm getting no answers here
[05:17] <dooglus> Cntryboy: type "sudo rm -fr ~/Desktop/usr"
[05:17] <SurfnKid> eFoX: sure thing that might work
[05:17] <Cntryboy> no I wasn't in the dir itself was in the dir that had the dir..
[05:18] <Cntryboy> what does -R mean though in lamen terms so ill know
[05:18] <SurfnKid> eFoX: when i got my wifi running, i didnt care for wep, i was just glad it worked, took me a while
[05:18] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: see what dooglus posted
[05:18] <Lukian> Cntryboy: type 'man rm'
[05:18] <rredd4> I use ndiswrapper, kernel is 2.6.15.23.  update manager recently upgraded the kernel to 2.6.15.25.  Do I have to setup ndiswrapper from scratch, or can I transfer the needed files somehow?
[05:18] <dooglus> Cntryboy: -R is the same as -r or --recursive
[05:18] <valehru> Cntryboy, rm -R means delete recursivley
[05:18] <SurfnKid> eFoX: why dont you just enable mac-filtering that way no one associates with your router. Encryption has overhead :/
[05:18] <valehru> etc..
[05:18] <valehru> lol
[05:18] <valehru> dooglus, downloading it now..
[05:18] <L-----D> !driver
[05:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about driver
[05:19] <Cntryboy> lol what does recursivley mean to linux..?
[05:19] <L-----D> !audio
[05:19] <valehru> !xgl
[05:19] <dooglus> SurfnKid: because it's trivial to change your mac address?
[05:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[05:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:19] <SeanTater> L-----D: ubotu got a recent lobotomy
[05:19] <SeanTater> L-----D: he's being reprogrammed by seveas
[05:19] <Cntryboy> btw it worked, just trying to understand what the command means in dummy terms
[05:19] <valehru> ahhh
[05:19] <valehru> lol
[05:19] <SurfnKid> dooglus: good point but what are the chances to get it right
[05:19] <sn00p> Does anybody know if belkin wireless usb adapters work in ubuntu?
[05:19] <L-----D> SeanTater: I see
[05:19] <dooglus> Cntryboy: recursive means folders, and sub-folders, and sub-sub-folders, and ... recursively.
[05:19] <eFoX> SurfnKid: That is an option. However, why cant i no longer scan. I SHOULD be able to get this working since it was working before. And @ school I want to be able to connect to the school servers and I wont have access to their firewalls and 'routers'
[05:20] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: recursive means to perform the command on the dir and all dirs and contents of those dirs within the main dir
[05:20] <Alth> Anyone know a good MP3 tagger?
[05:20] <eFoX> dammit ! this is where windows xp is good for ! It finds, it connects, it asks you for a password...your good to go
[05:20] <dooglus> SurfnKid: if it's not using encryption, then you sniff a mac address from an existing connection, and use that.
[05:20] <SurfnKid> eFoX: dang
[05:20] <ardchoille> Alth: easytag
[05:20] <Cntryboy> oh okay thx bros
[05:20] <SeanTater> ubotu tell L-----D about sound
[05:20] <eFoX> SurfnKid: tell me bout it
[05:20] <Cntryboy> makes sense
[05:20] <Alth> Ok ardchoille  :)
[05:20] <SurfnKid> dooglus: doesnt that suck :P
[05:20] <SeanTater> L-----D: is that useful to you?
[05:21] <dooglus> SurfnKid: that's why people use encryption!
[05:21] <farous> eFoX: what is your wireless card
[05:21] <farous> broadcom
[05:21] <SurfnKid> dooglus: except in my town
[05:21] <eFoX> farous: yes
[05:21] <slugicide> Thanks, SurfnKid, for the WiFi FAQ, but it didn't help.  I'm online, but I can't share files with windows.  Tell me where to go?
[05:21] <SurfnKid> dooglus: everyone is an idiot here
[05:21] <L-----D> SeanTater: yep, thanks
[05:21] <dooglus> SurfnKid: everyone?
[05:21] <ardchoille> SurfnKid: not everyone ;)
[05:21] <farous> eFoX: did you try the bcm43xx pakcage
[05:21] <eFoX> farous: i tried using dapper's driver, and it sucked, so i blacklisted it and used ndiswrapper
[05:21] <SurfnKid> dooglus: sorry. i mean here in my city, its awful
[05:21] <Cntryboy> what does the / mean in this command?   mv gyach*.tar.bz2 /
[05:21] <eFoX> farous: what is that ?
[05:21] <neotard> the biggest room is the room for improvement, therefore everyone is an idiot :D
[05:21] <Cntryboy> what dir is /
[05:21] <farous> there is a how to on the forums and i am running it here flawleslly
[05:21] <dooglus> SurfnKid: I was wondering if you live in your town
[05:21] <GoClick> gavagai if I use "screen" when I quit SSH screen will be closed, won't it?
[05:22] <SurfnKid> dooglus: dont ask
[05:22] <SurfnKid> dooglus: hehe
[05:22] <Rug> Cntryboy: root
[05:22] <eFoX> farous: really ?
[05:22] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: means to move it to the root dir
[05:22] <SeanTater> Cntryboy: it means the root directory, the top level directory
[05:22] <eFoX> farous: there are alot of how-to's...do you have a particular one ?
[05:22] <farous> eFoX: search for bcm43xx module package and install the one that correspond to your linux-image
[05:22] <SurfnKid> eFoX: thats why i dont use wep, because every other wifi-router around my hood is open, no one really knows SSID's broadcast by default
[05:22] <Cntryboy> so sudo doesn't mean to root dir it just means switch to root user which is admin then right?
[05:22] <gavagai> GoClick, no
[05:22] <neotard> GoClick:  screen after you detach from it will not close after you log out
[05:22] <farous> eFoX: i know the steps do nto bother to bookmark them
[05:22] <dooglus> Cntryboy: right
[05:23] <SurfnKid> farous: hey is that package for Dapper?
[05:23] <Cntryboy> okay thx
[05:23] <farous> SurfnKid: yap
[05:23] <SurfnKid> I want that bookmark
[05:23] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: sudo means to perform the command as root user
[05:23] <gavagai> GoClick, you can detach the screen session with ctrl-a d
[05:23] <SurfnKid> even tho im back on Breezy :/
[05:23] <gavagai> GoClick, but if you just disconnect it still stays running
[05:23] <dooglus> Cntryboy: / is the root directory - the top directory.  "root" is the admin user.  confusing I guess, having two things called 'root'
[05:23] <farous> ok give me a min to search for a good howto
[05:23] <SurfnKid> but I have another laptop with a bcm43xx adapter, thatll gimme homework :P
[05:23] <SurfnKid> farous:  you rock thanks man
[05:24] <swim> whats good for converting ogg to mp3?
[05:24] <neotard> Aven:  how's it going with X?
[05:24] <emiliano_26> hi men!
[05:24] <eFoX> isnt ogg better than mp3s ?
[05:24] <Aven> neotard: going great, ty :] 
[05:24] <neotard> emiliano_26:  who you calling a man?!
[05:24] <dooglus> swim: converting from ogg to mp3 is never good.  it makes the sound worse.
[05:24] <eFoX> oh...want it on a mp3 player that doesnt support ogg ?
[05:24] <Aven> sorry, can't send PMs
[05:24] <Aven> haven't identified
[05:25] <emiliano_26> somebody can tell me how can I do to enter in spanish???
[05:25] <[aj] > I'm trying to install something using apt-get and it keeps telling me to insert the cd. Is there a way to install from the internet instead of by CD?
[05:25] <emiliano_26> it is something like ubuntu es???
[05:25] <Vaske_Car> Is there more Mac or Linux desktop users?
[05:25] <dooglus> swim: what about 'sox'?
[05:25] <GoClick> it seems my giant ass sql killed the serve
[05:25] <farous> SurfnKid: it is not perfect but better than nothing. linux-2.6.16.17 will have native support for broadcom so the next release of ubuntu i believe
[05:25] <swim> dooglus: its for my ipod...
[05:25] <dooglus> swim:  SOX (SOund eXchange) is a generic utility for translating
[05:25] <dooglus>  sound files from one format to another
[05:25] <IcemanV9> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:25] <sivanicon> I ran these two command 'sudo groupadd -g 500 fat' 'sudo usermod -G fat msivanich' now im unable to use 'sudo ' anything. Any ideas?
[05:26] <ardchoille> [aj] : you can comment out the cd line in your sources.list, then install
[05:26] <neotard> [aj] :  good question!  you can install from the internet in debian, but ubuntu doesn't hand out a netinstall kernal and initrd
[05:26] <emiliano_26> thanks!
[05:26] <GoClick> Oh no it didn't I just used the lan connection not the remote
[05:26] <swim> thanks dooglus
[05:26] <farous> SurfnKid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:26] <slugicide> Is there a trick to getting windows and ubuntu to share files? They can see each other via wireless, but no access.
[05:26] <dooglus> sivanicon: if you run "id" in a shell, are you still shown as being in the admin group?
[05:26] <neotard> slugicide:
[05:27] <neotard> oops
[05:27] <slugicide> Ak!
[05:27] <SurfnKid> dooglus: goin back to this town thing.. well no one uses linux around here and its just a few of those around town who do, who i dont really know, everyone else uses windows, or just no PC at all. i could be wrong :P
[05:27] <neotard> silly touchstream O.o
[05:27] <eFoX> farous: is this what you currently used and were successful with ?
[05:27] <SurfnKid> farous: thats the page im on!
[05:27] <dr_willis> slugicide,  to get windows to see the linux shares. you proberly need to do a "sudo smbpasswd -a username" for the linux users.. also you may need to edit the smb.conf file to enabel browseable home's and writeable homes
[05:27] <farous> eFoX: i am not dual booting debian and ubuntu
[05:27] <farous> am on my debian box now
[05:27] <SurfnKid> farous: might have missed that package
[05:27] <valehru> dooglus, azureus is finally working...thanks for the tip
[05:27] <cwillu> how can I list the users or groups from the commandline?
[05:28] <farous> eFoX: but this page is quite similar to what i did
[05:28] <gavagai> GoClick, so then to reattach the screen session you do:  screen -dr.  screen is so useful, it has multiple windows, cut/paste, etc
[05:28] <slugicide> OK, dr.  ...
[05:28] <sivanicon> dooglus , i get uid=1000(msivanich) gid=1000(msivanich) groups=500(fat), 1000(msivanich)
[05:28] <Cntryboy> grr
[05:28] <farous> SurfnKid: eFoX look at using the new broadcom driver
[05:28] <gavagai> i'm irc'ing from inside screen
[05:28] <Cntryboy> where can I find this file? cd@cd-desktop:/usr/local/bin$ gyach
[05:28] <Cntryboy> gyach: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:29] <ardchoille> gavagai: me too, I love screen+irssi
[05:29] <farous> SurfnKid: you need the bcmwl.sys file though there is a link i think to where you can download one
[05:29] <SurfnKid> farous: not the bcmwl5.sys from before
[05:29] <gavagai> ardchoille, yeah that's what i'm using as well
[05:29] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:29] <farous> the window one that i have did not work here had to download one from the net
[05:29] <dooglus> sivanicon: so you're not in the admin group.  that's why you can't 'sudo'
[05:30] <dooglus> sivanicon: what do you see if you "grep ^admin: /etc/group"?
[05:30] <eFoX> farous: what do you think I should do with ndiswrapper ? Uninstall it ?
[05:30] <sivanicon> dooglus: admin:x:112
[05:31] <dooglus> SurfnKid: "sudo apt-get install libltdl3"
[05:31] <SurfnKid> farous: ill give that a shot with my other laptop sometime, im gonna get it goin
[05:31] <farous> eFoX: yah i never managed to make it work. after the installation and getting the device whenever i make a scan there is always no results
[05:31] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[05:31] <dooglus> sivanicon: so nobody is in group admin.  nobody can use 'sudo' on your PC
[05:31] <cwillu> heh
[05:31] <sivanicon> nice
[05:31] <dooglus> Cntryboy: "sudo apt-get install libltdl3"
[05:31] <rredd4> when I change kernels do I have to reload nidswrapper and drivers from scratch?
[05:32] <cwillu> yay for single-user mode
[05:32] <sivanicon> dooglus: how did i manage this with those 2 commands?
[05:32] <SurfnKid> so far my 8600 dell is working smooth, dont wanna mess with that you know
[05:32] <sivanicon> dooglus and does this mean reinstall or is there another way?
[05:32] <neotard> Cntryboy:  instead of asking each step on files missing and software, you might look into synaptic.
[05:32] <cwillu> sivanicon: single user mode will give you a root prompt
[05:32] <ardchoille> sivanicon: you can't sudo or get root privs?
[05:33] <nekostar> desktopbsd failed... pcbsd failed... now lets see if i fail gentoo ~_~ bbiab
[05:33] <sivanicon> archoille correct
[05:33] <ardchoille> sivanicon: I am curious as to how you managed that
[05:33] <dooglus> sivanicon: the usermod -G did it - from the man page: "If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group".  so you removed yourself from the 'admin' group.
[05:34] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[05:34] <sivanicon> *clap* *clap*
[05:34] <sivanicon> im a genius
[05:34] <rredd4> Hobbsee since I have a new kernel, do I have to reload nidswrapper and drivers from scratch?
[05:34] <dooglus> ardchoille: he did "sudo usermod -G <some list not including admin> <his-username>"
[05:34] <Hobbsee> rredd4: probably.  try it.
[05:34] <ardchoille> dooglus: I see
[05:34] <Hobbsee> rredd4: i think i did, yeah.
[05:34] <carpediem> has anyone noticed this - the Dapper Live/Install CD's version of parted only has ext2 support, but the default is ext3 so when Ubiquity tries to create the filesystem it fails.  How can a major bug like this be so unnoticed?
[05:34] <cwillu> that has to be the worst user interface design ever
[05:35] <neotard> carpediem:  meh, use reiser :D
[05:35] <sivanicon> so is there any way to make this right or do i have to reinstall?
[05:35] <dooglus> sivanicon: you need to reboot into single-user mode / rescue mode; maybe  you can do that from your grub menu?  or from an install CD?  and then run "adduser <yourname> admin"
[05:35] <SurfnKid> Ubiquity?
[05:35] <sivanicon> dooglus
[05:35] <carpediem> neotard: tried, it doesn't support that either, only ext2
[05:35] <sivanicon> ill try that
[05:35] <rredd4> Hobbsee hoping I could transfer files from 23 kernel to 25 kernel
[05:35] <ardchoille> sivanicon: :20:32:46: < cwillu> sivanicon: single user mode will give you a root prompt
[05:35] <dooglus> carpediem: ext2 and ext3 are much the same
[05:35] <carpediem> SurfnKid: its the graphical installer that ships with dapper.
[05:35] <neotard> carpediem:  hmm, maybe a corrupted installation cd?
[05:35] <Munchkinguy> The alpha version of GNASH has recently been released. It is already in the debian package repository.
[05:35] <carpediem> dooglus: No, they aren't.
[05:35] <Munchkinguy>  I think that it should be put in the Ubuntu universe repository, but I'm not sure how to request it.
[05:35] <SurfnKid> capgadget: yep, crashed on me once, but it was a DVD error
[05:35] <sivanicon> ardchoille how do i boot into single user mode?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> rredd4: just install the same files, for the newer kernel...the drivers stay the same
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: which package?
[05:36] <neotard> carpediem:  yes, they are.  dooglus is right.  ext3 is ext2 with a log, basically
[05:36] <carpediem> neotard: no, others on various websites have noticed this.
[05:36] <dooglus> carpediem: ext3 is ext2 with journalling bolted on as an afterthought.
[05:36] <neotard> dooglus:  hehe
[05:36] <cwillu> time to drown my sorrows in a game of pingus
[05:36] <ardchoille> sivanicon: hit the ESC key during a reboot. Then, once root, you can edit your sudoers file with visudo
[05:36] <sivanicon> thanks!
[05:36] <dooglus> ardchoille: ESC during reboot?  what does that do?
[05:36] <ardchoille> sivanicon: don't reinstall, that's easily fixed.
[05:36] <carpediem> neotard, dooglus: if you don't understand that a journaling filesystem and a non-journaling filesystem aren't "nearly the same" then I don't know what to say.
[05:36] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/utils/gnash
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: if it's in debian, it should be in edgy in the next couple of weeks
[05:37] <cwillu> dooglus: accesses the grub boot menu
[05:37] <ardchoille> dooglus: brings up the boot menu to allow selection of a diff kernel
[05:37] <SurfnKid> grub, :( couldnt get my splash screens going
[05:37] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to
[05:37] <dooglus> carpediem: ext2 and ext3 use exactly the same structure.  you can mount an ext3 filesystem as ext2 and it works fine.
[05:37] <neotard> carpediem:  actually, compare reiser or jfs to ext3.  there's a big diff.
[05:37] <Munchkinguy> It's a like a Free version of Macromedia Flash.
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: no, wait, it's only in experimental...hmm..
[05:37] <dr_willis> backwards compatiablity
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: sounds good.  trying to remember where you request that sort of thing
[05:38] <SurfnKid> i resize everythin 640x480 14colors save to xpm. then gzip to gz but grub cant read it
[05:38] <carpediem> dooglus, neotard: ugh...well, anyway, not the point of what I'm getting at anyway.  Dapper install CD seems to have one major bug.
[05:38] <xzcvczx> whats the package to install for suns jdk?
[05:39] <neotard> carpediem:  sounds like it :(  only install cd I have is breezy badger, haven't checked out the dapper dragon cd, just did dist-upgrade.
[05:39] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: sun-java5-jdk
[05:39] <neotard> is there a bug reporting tool on the site?  I'm new to ubuntu :)
[05:39] <carpediem> neotard: as did I with most of my systems....but this is a laptop that had something else on it.
[05:39] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: cheers
[05:39] <neotard> carpediem:  debian ftw ;)
[05:40] <dooglus> neotard: bugs go to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:40] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: have fun
[05:40] <carpediem> neotard: actually fedora....which is why I'm trying to put dapper on it asap.
[05:40] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: ??? is it in apt-get?
[05:40] <Munchkinguy> yes, it's in multiverse
[05:40] <neotard> carpediem:  there you go, what dooglus said
[05:40] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: [13:40]  <bddebian> Have them request a sync/merge from Experimental
[05:41] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: its says package not found
[05:41] <farous> xzcvczx: add the multiverse repos
[05:41] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: Have you enabled the Multiverse repository?
[05:41] <carpediem> dooglus, neotard: yeah....looked there a bit ago....seems I need to file a report.
[05:41] <ardchoille> xzcvczx: do you have multiverse enabled?
[05:41] <neotard> carpediem:  ugh!  I gave up on RH with the mother's day edition :)
[05:42] <xzcvczx> someone want to tell me how to do that (its not my box i am just trying to get sun on it)
[05:42] <carpediem> I do find bug #1 entertaining though
[05:42] <ardchoille> neotard: lol
[05:42] <Munchkinguy> What is bddebian?
[05:42] <neotard> that isn't entirely true.. I did buy RH4 just to support an opensource company
[05:42] <carpediem> neotard: Fedora was only there as a trial...and it failed.
[05:42] <Munchkinguy> carpediem: Not entertaining... depressing
[05:43] <ardchoille> Can I change the resolution on tty1-6 simply by adding "vga=791" to menu.lst or do I need something more?
[05:43] <dooglus> carpediem: is this your bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/45397
[05:43] <sivanicon> dooglus feels good to be an admin again, thanks
[05:43] <dooglus> carpediem: bug #1 has been there for ages, and it's still not fixed!
[05:43] <carpediem> dooglus: no, but thanks for looking.
[05:43] <neotard> ardchoille:  if that's the right mode, it should work if you're adding it to the kernel line
[05:43] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: Go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[05:43] <ardchoille> neotard: Thank you
[05:44] <neotard> ardchoille:  granted, I haven't configured the terminal res in like.. hmm, years :)
[05:44] <neotard> ardchoille:  oh wait, it should go after append iirc
[05:44] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: unfourtunately dont have physical access to the box
[05:44] <ardchoille> neotard: it's the right mode, I just needed to know if framebuffer support is compiled into the Dapper latest kernel
[05:44] <kditty> can anyone help me with an ipod problem? im using gnome dapper and i loaded my ipod in gtkpod and updated it and the program crashed, now i cant read my ipod or add or remove any files
[05:44] <carpediem> dooglus: here's another guy with the exact problem, and 10 comments saying "Me too" Failed to create a file system:  http://justinsomnia.org/2006/06/giving-ubuntu-another-go-with-dapper-drake/
[05:44] <neotard> something like append vga=#### (whatever the modes are)
[05:45] <dooglus> ardchoille: I'm not sure that it is.  It was in breezy, but not dapper
[05:45] <neotard> ardchoille:  oh, no clue
[05:45] <ardchoille> guess I'll find out soon enough
[05:45] <neotard> ardchoille:  it won't work if the support isn't there, right?  just ctrl-alt-del :p
[05:45] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: In the terminal, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:46] <neotard> ardchoille:  I've been meaning to look into terminal FB support
[05:46] <xzcvczx> Munchkinguy: cheers i have never touched ubuntu before or really any apt-get based linux
[05:46] <ardchoille> neotard: me too
[05:46] <MacJunky_PDQ> hi
[05:46] <merty> hello MacJunky :P
[05:46] <dooglus> neotard: I've tried adding the vga= line, but it makes my virtual terminals go into 'black-on-black' mode
[05:46] <Cube-ness> hey.. are there older versoin of packages available somewhere? like, can i use apt/synaptic to install older versions of python, etc?
[05:46] <PowerPC> :o
[05:46] <HellDragon> hey MacJunky_PDQ
[05:46] <ardchoille> neotard: I'm gonna check it out, brb
[05:46] <dooglus> neotard: they still work, but everything's invisible
[05:46] <Munchkinguy> xzcvczx: After that, just "uncomment" the lines that say "universe" and add the word "multiverse" after each of them
[05:47] <MacJunky_PDQ> hi merty and PowerPC ;)
[05:47] <neotard> dooglus:  hmm, maybe a terminal config issue?  or an unsupported resolution
[05:47] <wthww> hi rooom
[05:47] <merty> what does rm -rf / do?
[05:47] <merty> i typed it and i got errors.
[05:47] <carpediem> kditty: have you tried unplugging the ipod and plugging back in?
[05:47] <neotard> merty:  it screws you over
[05:47] <carpediem> kditty: and, may I suggest giving banshee a try...it works with the IPod quite well.
[05:48] <farous> merty it forces the remove of whatever is after it
[05:48] <neotard> merty:  well, it would as root or using sudo :p  it removes the root directory, recursively and forcefully
[05:48] <valehru_> Hey guys, got disconnected....did anyone answer my question, how can I change the colour of the text in the menus,. Application, Places, System?
[05:48] <michael___> Anyone know how to access 3ddesktop??
[05:48] <neotard> merty:  essentially you'd be removing everything on all mounted, writeable partitions :)
[05:48] <SurfnKid> michael___: type 3ddesk on a terminal if its installed
[05:48] <michael___> k
[05:49] <PowerPC> RTFM
[05:49] <PowerPC> lol
[05:49] <therumble> ooboontoo is teh sweet man
[05:49] <kditty> carpediem, i tried unplugging and connecting again, seems like thats when the problem started. when i plug it in and try to run gtkpod it give me an error about the ipod.db file.
[05:49] <nickrud> hexes PowerPC
[05:49] <SurfnKid> michael___: if its not installed 'sudo apt-get install 3ddesk'
[05:49] <farous> valehru_: try system>pref>font do not kow of the colour though
[05:49] <carpediem> merty: in other words, don't type in commands that people tell you to without knowing what they do.
[05:49] <merty> ok
[05:49] <PowerPC> i only told him ifconfig :p
[05:49] <kditty> the ipod is formatted under windows carpediem, could that be the problem?
[05:49] <farous> have a question why ws the packag gnome-conf-editor hidden from the menus?
[05:49] <neotard> the MAN command is your friend :)
[05:49] <therumble> i'm so proud of myself, i figured out how to dual-boot windows xp and ubuntu
[05:49] <therumble> yay
[05:49] <valehru_> farous, nope, no colour there
[05:49] <valehru_> therumble, well done...
[05:50] <carpediem> kditty: no, in fact that's good
[05:50] <therumble> yay
[05:50] <neotard> "man rm" will provide wonderous volumes of information ;)
[05:50] <carpediem> kditty: if you format it under Mac, you can't read it in Linux
[05:50] <Cntryboy> anyone know the command to see if this (((((  PyGtk-2 ))))) is installed on my system?
[05:50] <michael___> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[05:50] <michael___> admin@ubuntu:~$ 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[05:50] <michael___> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[05:50] <michael___> Whats wrong??/
[05:50] <neotard> Cntryboy:  did you look into synaptic? :)
[05:50] <farous> Cntryboy: aptitude search pygtk
[05:50] <Cntryboy> thanks
[05:51] <carpediem> kditty: but I don't know about the db error.
[05:51] <kditty> carpediem, the files i deleted were gone, and the files i added are there, so i know that gtkpod did the job. also how do i go about disconnecting my ipod safely instead of unplugging it?
[05:51] <nickrud> michael___, you need to enable your three D accell, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: What is bddebian?
[05:51] <farous> Cntryboy: by default package names are small letters
[05:51] <michael___> k
[05:51] <Cntryboy> if nothing comes back does that mean I don't have it?
[05:51] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: a dev
[05:51] <rob138> hi, i am going to compile and install amarok beta 1.4.1, should i remove the packaged install before hand?
[05:51] <nickrud> michael___, if you have a card not mentioned here, come back
[05:51] <carpediem> kditty: well, I don't think you have to umount a USB device like on Windows.
[05:51] <farous> Cntryboy: if it has i before the package name then it is installed. otherwise you need ot install it
[05:51] <Hobbsee> rob138: dont bother, we've already got packages for it
[05:51] <nickrud> *there
[05:51] <carpediem> kditty: But I could be wrong
[05:52] <Cntryboy> I dunno...     cd@cd-desktop:~$ aptitude search pygtk
[05:52] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[05:52] <Cntryboy> thats what it came back
[05:52] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: How do i contact bddebian?
[05:52] <neotard> ardchoille:  so?
[05:52] <rob138> hobbsee really? do i need to change repository?
[05:52] <michael___> i have a geforce fx
[05:52] <ardchoille> neotard: It worked, so fb support is compiled into the latest dapper kernel
[05:52] <Hobbsee> Munchkinguy: /msb bddebian
[05:52] <nickrud> Cntryboy, try apt-cache search , it's broader
[05:52] <neotard> ardchoille:  nifty
[05:52] <farous> Cntryboy: it is not installed and not in your repos
[05:53] <carpediem> kditty: if the module is hung, it'
[05:53] <ardchoille> now I have all my tty's at 1024x768 res
[05:53] <StuckMojo> what packages are needed to build kernel modules against the binary kernels?
[05:53] <carpediem> kditty: if the module is hung, it's possible you could rmmod it, then modprobe it
[05:53] <StuckMojo> build-essentials and what else?
[05:53] <farous> Cntryboy: try adding the extra repos. and make sure this is the right name for the pacakge. synaptic is easier this way
[05:53] <kditty> carpediem, thanks, i wasnt sure if it mattered or not. im running banshee right now ill see if this works
[05:53] <StuckMojo> i've already got linux-kernel-headers
[05:53] <carpediem> kditty: yeah, try that.
[05:53] <Cntryboy> well what nickrud told me to type came up with a whole list of python packages
[05:53] <Hobbsee> rob138 http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ <-- amarok 1.4.1-beta1 and the required libvisual0.4 and libvisual0.4-dev ( I packaged from upstream but not in debian yet ) also setup as a repo if you want to just add my pubkey ( http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html )
[05:53] <StuckMojo> or do i need those for a particular version
[05:53] <Cntryboy> what does that mean?
[05:53] <nickrud> StuckMojo, linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:53] <kditty> carpediem, i really dont know what youre talking about with rmmod and modprobe. im new to linux
[05:53] <StuckMojo> nickrud: thx
[05:54] <farous> Cntryboy: did you use synaptic before a front end for the package management
[05:54] <neotard> Cntryboy:  apt-cache will search for available packages in your apt cache.
[05:54] <carpediem> kditty: well, in Windows terms, its kind of like unloading a driver, then loading it again.
[05:54] <nickrud> Cntryboy, searching for the proper package is a learned skill.
[05:54] <nickrud> Cntryboy, brb
[05:54] <Cntryboy> oh hell im confused now
[05:54] <rob138> hobbsee, cool thanks
[05:54] <Cntryboy> lol
[05:54] <kditty> oh ok, basically like rebooting then?
[05:54] <michael___> cant i just use the drivers that came with my cd?
[05:54] <neotard> Cntryboy:  if you want to look for installed packages.. my personal fravorite command is this: "dpkg -l | grep <keywork>"
[05:54] <Hobbsee> rob138: that lot should be on kubuntu.org soon
[05:54] <carpediem> kditty: lol, well, yeah, cept we don't reboot in Linux very often.
[05:55] <n30n> What is a good program for playing dvd movies on my comptuer
[05:55] <kditty> same idea though
[05:55] <dooglus> neotard: ubuntu once ran "/bin/rm -fr /" when I booted it.  it didn't do much damage, surprisingly :)
[05:55] <carpediem> kditty: a driver in linux is usually a "kernel module"
[05:55] <neotard> dooglus:  as a user it should only delete files and directories you have write access too
[05:55] <rob138> hobbsee, should i remove 1.4 first?
[05:55] <kditty> where can i read more about it carpediem?
[05:55] <dooglus> neotard: fortunately it deleted something it needed to continue working quite early on, and failed
[05:55] <michael___> this drivers on synapic are old?
[05:56] <neotard> dooglus:  as root it'll remove everything until it gets to the kernel iirc.. then it just dumps
[05:56] <michael___> for the nvidia
[05:56] <ardchoille> dooglus: it shouldn't do any damage unless you run it as root or with sudo
[05:56] <dooglus> neotard: ubuntu ran it when it booted, as part of the startup commands - as root
[05:56] <nickrud> Cntryboy, you need a pygtk package, for what?
[05:56] <Cntryboy> for gyach
[05:56] <Cntryboy> voice I think
[05:56] <NickGarvey> from the command line, how would I check how much battery I have left?
[05:56] <neotard> Cntryboy:  are you using gnome?
[05:56] <carpediem> kditty: well, one way, if you type "lsmod" you'll see the current list of drivers your kernel supports, and the ones that say they are loaded are the ones you are using.
[05:56] <nickrud> Cntryboy, ok, now exactly what dependency does the package call for?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> rob138: you dont need to
[05:56] <Cntryboy> yes neotard
[05:56] <dooglus> ardchoille: it'll still wipe out all your documents if you run it as your own user I guess
[05:57] <Cntryboy> let me do it again so I can show u
[05:57] <neotard> Cntryboy:  click "system -> administration -> Synaptic"
[05:57] <dooglus> ardchoille: from that point of view it does more damage if you run it as a user, since the OS is replaceable
[05:57] <farous> Cntryboy: it is python-gtk2
[05:57] <NickGarvey> nevermind, got it
[05:57] <nickrud> heh. cut off at the knees by farous
[05:57] <Cntryboy> Gyach Enhanced, pY! Voice Chat, and the Gyach-E Webcam Utilities all use Gtk-2 for their user interfaces (Gtk-2 2.0.6 or better required). Additionally, Gyach-E requires GtkHTML-2, and pY! Voice Chat requires PyGtk-2. (Pre-built versions of these libraries are available in the Download Area.)
[05:57] <farous> nickrud: ?
[05:58] <Cntryboy> see it says I need pygtk-2 for voice chat
[05:58] <smev9> crazy, my ubuntu miraclously rendered into edubuntu...  WHY
[05:58] <neotard> need to teach the guy to fish
[05:58] <rob138> hobbsee, i get an error regarding "kdelibs4c2a"
[05:58] <neotard> smev9:  did you install the edubuntu package?
[05:58] <ardchoille> dooglus: it won't wipe out anything because a normal user doesn't have write perms to / and your home dir isn't /
[05:58] <farous> :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> rob138: apt-get -f install
[05:58] <smev9> not that i know of, but you gave me a hint, what happened
[05:58] <farous> so sleepy :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> rob138: it's the problem when you install via dpkg, not via apt-get
[05:58] <Cntryboy> nickrud did you see what I typed?
[05:59] <smev9> i tried wine and there were some installs and makes ans such...
[05:59] <neotard> smev9:  :)  if you look in the apt cache you'll see there's an edubuntu-desktop which will install and configure your desktop for edubuntu
[05:59] <Munchkinguy> Hobbsee: Thank you.
[05:59] <Munchkinguy> bye
[05:59] <nickrud> Cntryboy, yes.
[05:59] <rob138> hobbsee, so synaptic won't work?
[05:59] <Cntryboy> well I didn't have it
[05:59] <nickrud> Cntryboy, I'm interrupted for a sec by life
[05:59] <Cntryboy> I guess
[06:00] <nickrud> Cntryboy, farous points out you need python-gtk2
[06:00] <Hobbsee> rob138: if you can find the repository to add, yes.  otherwise, just wait a few days until Riddell gets a chance to put it up on kubuntu.org
[06:00] <smev9> neotard: yeah, probably, but it was surpising when edubuntu popped up unasked
[06:00] <Hobbsee> rob138: the guy who did them isnt awake at the moment, and he told me where the packages are, but not what the repository was.
[06:00] <neotard> smev9:  lol, yeah.. always good to check the list of packages being installed before proceeding
[06:01] <Cntryboy> okay well he said theres prebuilt lib of these files in dl area
[06:01] <Cntryboy> so ill grab it, i hope its a legit one
[06:01] <rob138> hobbsee, i added the repositorys from the website you linked...?
[06:02] <nickrud> Cntryboy, ymmv, some people do know their packaging
[06:02] <Hobbsee> rob138: okay, try it with synaptic
[06:02] <smev9> yeah, a total ubuntumaster like me never forgets to controll all ... eh thingies ;)
[06:02] <farous> Cntryboy: did you check skup for voice chat. or why you need those suspected packages for
[06:02] <rob138> hobbsee, thats what is giving me the error, it is saying kdelibs4c2a 4.3.5.3 is needed, but 4.3.5.2 is to be installed...?
[06:02] <Cntryboy> I need that package for voice chat with gyach
[06:02] <smev9> !edubuntu
[06:02] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[06:03] <Hobbsee> rob138: ah, yes, you need the kde 3.5.3 repositories from kubuntu.org
[06:03] <rob138> hobbsee, okie dokie
[06:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ponies?
[06:03] <wastrel> hija
[06:03] <Hobbsee> rob138: you can compile it yourself, if you wish, but we found last night that we needed that repo for the libvisual0.4
[06:03] <Hobbsee> crimsun: no, sheep.
[06:03] <nux31> how can i get a list of available packages under terminal ??
[06:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: baaah
[06:03] <neotard> I think the ubuntu page needs a howto on how to setup xinerama desktop with ATI cards.  (a really good, concise version)
[06:04] <XTORTION> when i run try to install a program the install script checks for C compiler and gives me this   error: C compiler cannot create executables  How can i fix it?
[06:04] <wastrel> nux31:  apt-cache search
[06:04] <rob138> hobbsee, no no, if someone else had problems with compiling, i'll have a catastrophe
[06:04] <Hobbsee> rob138: heh
[06:04] <neotard> any disagreements? :)
[06:04] <nux31> is there a ubuntu faq page ??
[06:04] <XTORTION> lol
[06:04] <farous> neotard: how to for the property drives or the free one?
[06:04] <ardchoille> nux31: that's gonna be a rather long list
[06:04] <nux31> mean on the internet
[06:05] <ardchoille> nux31: that's gonna be a rather long list
[06:05] <ardchoille> lol
[06:05] <Hobbsee> nux31: see /topic
[06:05] <LinuxNIT> nux31, a very very very very loooong list
[06:05] <megasquid> how do i configure the nautilus icon fonts on the desktop?
[06:05] <neotard> farous:  it could definitely use a good one for the proprietary version, I still haven't got my brain around that one.  but the instructions on the wiki didn't help me setup my multihead right using the radeon driver.
[06:05] <elknof3> hi everybody
[06:05] <elknof3> can someone help me configuring amul??
[06:05] <elknof3> amule..
[06:06] <neotard> farous:  as far as I know though, the proprietary driver doesn't support the mergedfb or xinerama correctly.  it does multihead, but that's somewhat a bitch and a half of a way to run X.
[06:06] <michael___> How do i install and play gta3 on my pc?
[06:06] <farous> neotard: the property dirve is set by the fglrxcontrol package so no need for howto. for the free ones it is the normal setting of xinerama
[06:06] <nux31> how about a HOWTO page ?
[06:06] <neotard> farous:  not really :)
[06:06] <farous> neotard: if you use radeon then i agree though i just commented some lines in the default xorg.conf file
[06:07] <michael___> What do i need to run gta3 on ubuntu?
[06:07] <megasquid> how do i configure the nautilus icon fonts on the desktop?
[06:07] <Frem> michael___, Do you know what Cedega is? Transgaming makes it. Go look them up.
[06:07] <farous> neotard: only dual head need manual setting for the property drive. which run great here
[06:07] <michael___> k
[06:07] <michael___> can i get it of synapic?
[06:07] <Frem> no
[06:08] <valehru_> ok to change the font color on the menu i was to edit the gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 file.  However this is controlled by the  gnome-settings-daemon.  However it is already running...is there a gui to manipulate the  gnome-settings-daemon?
[06:08] <neotard> farous:  like I said, haven't dug into the proprietary driver yet.  I have a conf for standard multihead, but that doesn't allow you to share windows between screens.
[06:08] <nickrud> megasquid, two ways: either choose an icon theme in the themes dialog, or right click the item on your desktop and select a custom icon
[06:08] <neotard> farous:  but standard xinerama and radeon (xorg driver) don't mix well.
[06:08] <farous> neotard: i can post my xorg.conf file to you if you have radeon card
[06:08] <Frem> michael___, It's commercial software, you'll have to spend $15 or so to get it. Alternatively, you can play with Wine. Wine can be hit or miss, though. You have 3d acceleration working, right?
[06:09] <megasquid> nickrud: right, but i want to configure the actual font thats used to display the name of the icon, or have no name displayed at all...
[06:09] <StuckMojo> thanks again
[06:09] <Cntryboy> dang synaptic package manager doesn't have anything pygtk, how do I manually add this link and this link only?
[06:09] <neotard> farous:  you're using the fglrx driver with xinerma-style support?
[06:09] <michael___> :D
[06:09] <michael___> Idk
[06:09] <nickrud> megasquid, you ask toooooo much from gnome
[06:09] <farous> neotard: radeon run xinerama natively or can be set in the regular fassion
[06:09] <michael___> I just downloaionfg nvida-glx-legacy
[06:09] <farous> neotard: it is called extended desktop. just disable xinerama in the gdm.conf to use it
[06:10] <megasquid> nickrud: damn thats gnomes #1 drawback, not too configurable
[06:10] <neotard> farous:  idk, with xinerama on my 9700 using radeon I get a cloned desktop.  using mergedFB I get xinerama-style support fine.
[06:10] <elknof3> can someone help me configuring amule??
[06:10] <farous> neotard: i set it in boththe prop and free drives. i dual boot debian free drive and ubuntu prop drive here
[06:10] <NickGarvey> all the cool kids use e16
[06:10] <nickrud> megasquid, i'd lkle that myself, but I can't convert to kde, which doesn't do that either
[06:11] <farous> neotard: did you properly set your server section
[06:11] <Frem> NickGarvey, only 16? I've got e17 going. Flipping sweet.
[06:11] <wastrel> hello
[06:11] <Blue89> what does ubuntu use to render opengl programs?
[06:11] <Blue89> mesa?
[06:11] <NickGarvey> Frem: damn you! I couldn't get it working
[06:11] <ardchoille> Frem: yeah, e17 is quite nice
[06:11] <neotard> farous:  xorg works fine for me.  idk what you're talking about :)
[06:11] <NickGarvey> bah!
[06:11] <megasquid> nickrud: i may just disable nautilus and use a differnt icon manager that allows me to do it, the one i use on my other linux box will allow that
[06:11] <Frem> NickGarvey, Mind you, I didn't say it worked. I said it "goes".
[06:11] <nux31> apt-cache <-- isn't that just looking in the cache ?
[06:12] <farous> neotard: by the way i never tried xinerama with gnome. i do nto think it is xinerama aware. with fluxbox it work flawlessly
[06:12] <Cntryboy> dang synaptic package manager doesn't have anything pygtk, how do I manually add this link and this link only?
[06:12] <nickrud> megasquid, which tool do you use?
[06:12] <michael___> how do i enable the nvida legacy i downloaded
[06:12] <NickGarvey> Frem: haha, elive cd was pretty
[06:12] <neotard> farous:  metacity is xinerama aware, it was one of the first to be that way :)
[06:12] <farous> neotard: lol it is my setting then. for i do not use metacity
[06:12] <Frem> NickGarvey, Yeah. They took out the pretty engage thingie and replaced it with an ugly panel. :'-(
[06:13] <dooglus> ardchoille: "rm -fr /" will walk the whole fileystem looking for files to delete.  it doesn't matter that I can't delete / or /home or even /home/dooglus - it will get into /home/dooglus/ at some point, and then it will be able to delete lots of stuff.
[06:13] <eFoX> farous: what does "sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware <downloaded file>" mean ? Actually the <downloaded file> mean ?
[06:13] <megasquid> nickrud: i think its idesk, but i'm not completely sure i have to double check
[06:13] <mertea> how do get Ubuntu to compile things it always fails and i get it to work on other forms of *nix
[06:13] <Frem> michael___, Have you enabled all the repositories?
[06:13] <neotard> farous:  that's the standard gnome xserver is all.. xinerama is fine though, but it takes twidling.  all I said was, there needs to be a howto on the wiki about how to actually configure it :)
[06:13] <XTORTION> when i run try to install a program the install script checks for C compiler and gives me this   error: C compiler cannot create executables  How can i fix it?
[06:13] <elknof3> hi everybody can someone help me confiuring amule??
[06:13] <michael___> Yeah
[06:13] <farous> eFoX: that is your bcmwl5.sys file
[06:13] <michael___> i just dowlnoaded and installe dthe
[06:13] <michael___> nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:13] <eFoX> farous: thats what i thought...thanks *crosses fingers*
[06:13] <NickGarvey> Frem: wonder how long it is until e17 is stable.. been like 5 years heh
[06:13] <dooglus> XTORTION: install 'build-essential'
[06:13] <ardchoille> dooglus: oh, that's right, I stand corrected.. I didn't think about the "-r" part. You are correct, sir :)
[06:13] <Hobbsee> !tell XTORTION about b-d
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about b-d
[06:14] <Hobbsee> oops
[06:14] <XTORTION> k thank you
[06:14] <dooglus> ardchoille: I just tried it to be sure :)
[06:14] <ardchoille> dooglus: that's a heck of a test, eh?
[06:14] <PhragMunkee> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on a new server I'm building.  It has dual P3 processors.  How do I enable SMP?  Can I apt-get an SMP kernel?  I can't seem to find any good docs online.
[06:14] <farous> neotard: that would be great i think you can edit the wiki if you are registered so why not do it :) i am sure many will be thankfull
[06:14] <dooglus> ardchoille: I made a chroot to test it in, rather than testing it on my real home...
[06:14] <ardchoille> dooglus: whew!
[06:14] <ardchoille> :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> its b-e :P
[06:15] <neotard> farous:  which gdm setting were you referring to earlier though?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: yes, i cant type today :P
[06:15] <michael___> what i do now?
[06:15] <farous> i prefer the native support of the radeon card. so i do not enable xinerama in my gdm.conf file
[06:15] <Frem> michael___, Well, if you installed it from the ubuntu repositories, I think you just need to double check your X config and restart X. I had to replace a few lines in my X config, but everything worked fine after that.
[06:16] <dr_willis> Hobbsee,  i get that way when i change keyboards/machines.
[06:16] <michael___> :-O
[06:16] <ardchoille> dooglus: I believe that would aldo wipe out some files in /tmp and /var/tmp, wouldn't it?
[06:16] <dr_willis> :P
[06:16] <michael___> Whats the command to access the x file
[06:16] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: yes, i am :P
[06:16] <wastrel> i installed new gnomad2
[06:16] <wastrel> now my thingy works
[06:16] <dooglus> ardchoille: only the ones I own, due to the 'sticky bit'
[06:16] <ardchoille> lol @ "thingy"
[06:17] <ardchoille> dooglus: yeah, thought so
[06:17] <Daktyls> hey guys, anyone have any idea what would be causing 100% SI usage under top?
[06:17] <Frem> michael___, Check out http://bonsonno.org/geekery/ubuntu-nvidia-drivers/ and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:17] <dooglus> ardchoille: from chmod(1): When  the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may be unlinked or renamed only by the direc- tory owner as well as by root or the file owner.
[06:17] <KevinIN72> could anyone go here http://69.209.123.251 and tell me what that is
[06:17] <ardchoille> yeah
[06:17] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: smart man.
[06:17] <KevinIN72> its not in the folder so i cant figure it out
[06:17] <wastrel> my mp3 player
[06:18] <Frem> michael___, Try the second link first.
[06:18] <ardchoille> dooglus: I should have known that due to the "-fr" part of the command.. just didn't think of it.
[06:18] <Hobbsee> KevinIN72: dont be annoying.
[06:18] <michael___> i did
[06:18] <KevinIN72> Hobbsee: considering im asking for help
[06:18] <neotard> KevinIN72:  hmm, what's the issue?
[06:18] <KevinIN72> im not playin around im tryin to get apache to work
[06:19] <Hobbsee> KevinIN72: it's hardly ubuntu related, and this is an ubuntu support channel.
[06:19] <nerdzyboy> How can I add a network connexion? (I added a network card to my pc but I can't get online...) lspci lists the device correctly and ifconfig gives me this: www.kekling.co.nr/ifconfig.txt
[06:19] <KevinIN72> Hobbsee: do you have to argue with me
[06:19] <chrisvio> please do not feed the troll
[06:19] <wastrel> ++chrisvio
[06:19] <KevinIN72> neotard: there is this file i can figure out for the death of me what it is
[06:20] <KevinIN72> Hobbsee: i done find it ubuntu related btw
[06:21] <wastrel> i forgot my sourceforge password
[06:21] <neotard> KevinIN72:  okay, well.. given the sentiment I'll say this ok :)  check out the docs for apache2.0 at apache.org, and look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default that's the default configuration
[06:21] <dr_willis> a fool.html file?
[06:21] <Hobbsee> KevinIN72: looks like a practical joke, looking at the html - doesnt look like it will harm your system
[06:21] <matgates> The Microsoft Platform Strategy guy, Martin Taylor has left Microsoft for Google.  Amusing eh?
[06:22] <matgates> http://tinyurl.com/pn4l8
[06:22] <neotard> KevinIN72:  all the files in /var/www/ will appear on the web
[06:22] <Cntryboy> i'm downloading pygtk 2.0 now where should I extract these files to? would it be /
[06:22] <KevinIN72> neotard: yeah but that file is no weres in my www folder
[06:22] <neotard> KevinIN72:  really don't know what to say anymore.. if that doesn't make any sense, then it's more than just a misunderstanding of apache.
[06:23] <Cntryboy> where should pygtk be extracted and installed to?
[06:23] <KevinIN72> neotard: well ok thanks anyway, i dont see why ppl think im messing around :(
[06:23] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[06:23] <neotard> Cntryboy:  looks like there's a python-gtk2 debian package.. have you looked at it?
[06:24] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  install the package with apt
[06:24] <dr_willis> nerdzyboy,  you refering to wireless networking?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> well I downloaded a precompiled one from gyach site
[06:24] <Frem> KevinIN72, Is there any reason you can't just search the entire system for the file? It can't take much longer then hunting around in docs and config files. ;-)
[06:24] <wastrel> what neotard said
[06:24] <ardchoille> !gnome
[06:24] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:24] <Cntryboy> just need to know where to extract and install it
[06:24] <Cntryboy> okay
[06:24] <neotard> Cntryboy:  it's in apt, there is not extraction and installation.  it's automatic.
[06:24] <Cntryboy> gotta extract it first brb
[06:24] <KevinIN72> Frem: yeah i think i just need to refresh my system than it will be gone hopefully that is
[06:24] <Cntryboy> neotard its a .bz2
[06:24] <Cntryboy> file
[06:25] <michael___> damn
[06:25] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  use synaptic
[06:25] <Cntryboy> tar.bz2
[06:25] <Cntryboy> is the extention
[06:25] <michael___> how can i write to the file :S its on read only not letting me chanve that
[06:25] <neotard> Cntryboy:  if you just need the python gtk2 bindings, they are in apt
[06:25] <Cntryboy> synaptic doesn't have the link listed
[06:25] <XTORTION> yeeehaaa compiling LOL
[06:25] <CapNemo> hello :)
[06:25] <sn00p> Does anybody know if belkin wireless usb adapters work in ubuntu?
[06:25] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  system > administration > networking
[06:25] <Frem> KevinIN72, Apachie dosen't require refreshing afaik...
[06:25] <maikol> any good winamp replacements? already have mplayer for vids
[06:25] <michael___> dw
[06:25] <michael___> i figure it out :D
[06:25] <Cntryboy> i've tried apt neotard its not there
[06:25] <nerdzyboy> try xmms
[06:25] <chrisvio> maikol, XMMS is cool
[06:25] <Frem> michael___, :-)
[06:25] <KevinIN72> Frem: hmm well to late now i already restarted the computer
[06:25] <neotard> Cntryboy:  then there is an issue with your pacakge configuraiton, which is more important
[06:25] <ardchoille> maikol: there is xmms and bmp (beep media player)
[06:25] <CapNemo> is there a way to downgrade to a version of ubuntu ??
[06:26] <Cntryboy> don't you mean with repos
[06:26] <farous> Cntryboy: pygtk2 and python-gtk2 are the same package
[06:26] <neotard> hmm, I wonder which source that is.. let me check
[06:26] <Frem> CapNemo, yes, but it's a pain in the neck.
[06:26] <Cntryboy> all id have to do is add the repo and it would install it
[06:26] <maikol> ive tried xmms, ardchoille do you like bmp?
[06:26] <KevinIN72> CapNemo: why would you want to do that
[06:26] <farous> py = python
[06:26] <nerdzyboy> can anyone hellp me?
[06:26] <Cntryboy> i know farous
[06:26] <Cntryboy> so what are we getting at?
[06:26] <ardchoille> maikol: I tried bmp, but I prefer xmms
[06:26] <Cntryboy> should this already be installed on my system?
[06:26] <CapNemo> KevinIN72, because im made the stupidity to upgrade to edgy ;)
[06:26] <Cntryboy> or what
[06:27] <Frem> nerdzyboy, What is your problem?
[06:27] <CapNemo> Frem, you know if apt-get know something about downgrad .?
[06:27] <michael___> omfg
[06:27] <KevinIN72> CapNemo: hmm well i dont know of a way to downgrade
[06:27] <michael___> i tried it using terminal
[06:27] <michael___> saying cannot save
[06:27] <neotard> Cntryboy:  at a command line if you type "apt-cache search python-gtk2" what happens?
[06:27] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  the package name in the repository is python-gtk2 - that's why you didn't find it with your search for pygtk
[06:28] <nerdzyboy> How can I add a network connexion? (I added a network card to my pc but I can't get online...) lspci lists the device correctly and ifconfig gives me this: www.kekling.co.nr/ifconfig.txt
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> And so the "I got edgy and it's broke" saga begins....sigh
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2 - Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set
[06:28] <CapNemo> KevinIN72, for the moment i use synaptic to force version on package ... but i cannot use it for a set of packages
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2-dev - GTK+ bindings: devel files
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2-doc - documentation and API reference of GTK2 bindings for python
[06:28] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2-tutorial - tutorial for the GTK2 python library
[06:28] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[06:28] <neotard> Cntryboy:  so it's there.  you need to just install it.  "sudo apt-get install python-gtk2"
[06:28] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  system > administration > networking
[06:28] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: if you have gksu, which you probably do, you already have pygtk as pygtk is a dep of gksu
[06:28] <Cntryboy> wastrel then ya'll should of told me that then lol
[06:28] <Frem> CapNemo, As of six months ago, it can't. I had to set all the repos back, then manually reinstall all the old packages that had been updated.
[06:28] <michael___> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:28] <nerdzyboy> I only got access to command line...
[06:28] <michael___> i already made a backup but i edit it and it wont save
[06:28] <Cntryboy> no wonder it wasn't working
[06:29] <CapNemo> Frem, how do you reinstall a package like that ?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> ppl told me to sudo apt-get install pygtk
[06:29] <Cntryboy> lol
[06:29] <neotard> Cntryboy:  not to be condescending.. going out on a limb :)  this is a really good howto: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[06:29] <Cntryboy> let me try that neotard
[06:29] <maikol> ardchoille, due to performance?
[06:29] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:29] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: you probably already have it
[06:29] <michael___> :@
[06:30] <Cntryboy> Reading package lists... Done
[06:30] <Cntryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:30] <Cntryboy> python-gtk2 is already the newest version.
[06:30] <Cntryboy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 89 not upgraded.
[06:30] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$
[06:30] <Cntryboy> so was it already installed?
[06:30] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  yes, and don't paste
[06:30] <nerdzyboy> edit?
[06:30] <michael___> can tell me whats wrong with it????
[06:30] <neotard> Cntryboy:  there you go.. what it said.. it's already the newest version.  it's installed :)
[06:30] <nerdzyboy> What do I add/remove?
[06:30] <farous> !atitude
[06:30] <wastrel> Cntryboy:  you are trying to compile something that requires pygtk?
[06:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about atitude
[06:30] <farous> who moved this nice factoid :(
[06:30] <neotard> Cntryboy:  I cannot stress enough, reading a little about apt is really useful
[06:30] <Cntryboy> well gyach said I would need it
[06:31] <Frem> michael___, You need to access the file as super user, use the sudo command.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> farous: spelling error
[06:31] <Cntryboy> and I got an error huge and I figured thats what I needed
[06:31] <ardchoille> farous: you mean aptitude?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> can I msg one of u the error?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> since ppl dont like paste in here
[06:31] <farous> no asking in channel atitude
[06:31] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  that's where you configure your network interfaces, try man interfaces for info
[06:31] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: http://pastebin.com :)
[06:31] <thoreauputic> !attitude
[06:31] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:31] <michael___> i did
[06:31] <farous> thanks thoreauputic
[06:31] <Cntryboy> zzzz i have 2.1KB takes me forever to go there
[06:31] <michael___> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:32] <n30n> how do i play dvd movies on ubuntu. what program do i need
[06:32] <Frem> What error is it giving you, michael?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[06:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:32] <wastrel> what's gyach
[06:32] <ic56> twl
[06:32] <n30n> thoreauputic: thank you
[06:32] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:32] <xenex> Anyone want to help with this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200540
[06:32] <neotard> Cntryboy:  have you considered just using gaim?  hehe
[06:32] <Cntryboy> some yahoo type msger, that works with webcam and voice chat
[06:33] <Cntryboy> gaim don't have voice, and I heard gaim-vv sucked and wasn't supported
[06:33] <Nikyo> Hi, is there any recommend anti virus program with a gui, that is available in synaptic package manager that any one you guys could recommend, please.
[06:33] <neotard> Cntryboy:  if you're compiling you'll probably need the -dev package.  when you did the search you'll notice there was a package that had "-dev" after it, if you read the descriptiong you'll see it's the stuff for that sort thing.
[06:33] <hou5ton> my laptop screen is 1440x900 ... so I went into etc/X11/xorg.conf and made the addition, but after restarting X it is still 1024x768, and that is the highest option offered by the screen resolution menu.  I changed it in Breezy ... what am I missing here?
[06:33] <PaPaPitufo> why thank you
[06:33] <michael___> shizz i didnt et nvidia-kernel-common
[06:33] <Cntryboy> i was just trying to install the package neotard
[06:34] <n30n> !virus
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about virus
[06:34] <neotard> Cntryboy:  okie, should be all you need then.  unless the gtk packages in the repository are too old.. which I'd doubt
[06:34] <michael___> its already donwloaded
[06:34] <nerdzyboy> How do I edit that /etc/network/interfaces file? (I can't write to it even as root)
[06:34] <Cntryboy> neotard well if I already had it installed and gyach still isn't working.. mmm
[06:34] <Nikyo> !anti virus
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about anti virus
[06:35] <Cntryboy> paste bin is taking its time
[06:35] <Cntryboy> neotard look at the error I get when i try to run voice chat in gyach
[06:35] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.com/722658
[06:35] <neotard> Cntryboy:  Cntryboy you had python-gtk2, if you're compiling you'll need python-gtk2-dev
[06:35] <michael___> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[06:35] <michael___> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[06:35] <michael___> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[06:35] <michael___> :(
[06:35] <Nikyo> !antivirus
[06:35] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[06:35] <michael___> !linuxvirus
[06:35] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:35] <Cntryboy> i'm not neotard, just thought I needed it because gyach website said I would I dunno.
[06:35] <wastrel> nerdzyboy:  sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[06:35] <Cntryboy> what does that error look like to u?
[06:36] <neotard> Cntryboy:  ok, you should be fine.
[06:36] <Cntryboy> will you read the error msg http://pastebin.com/722658 please
[06:36] <Nikyo> Thank you
[06:36] <mprasodjo> anyone here can help, I need to do install with specific module parameter ?
[06:36] <CapNemo> Frem, do you know if i can ask to apt-get to retrieve a certain version of a package ??
[06:37] <JJ87> question, im new to linux and i want to install it on a computer which .iso do i download? desktop cd? or alternate?
[06:37] <michael___> so what i do ferm i tried it aint workin :(
[06:37] <ice228> hello, could someone direct me to the support site link for adding resolutions to your x11? im at 640 x 480 and cant do much : /
[06:37] <CapNemo> JJ87, desktop yup
[06:37] <eFoX> JJ87: desktop
[06:37] <Hobbsee> JJ87: how much ram does the machine have?
[06:37] <Cntryboy> ya'll told me to put that at paste bin and when I do no one looks at it :(
[06:37] <ardchoille> JJ87: you most likely want the desktop iso
[06:37] <JJ87> that will do a pull install onto my hard drive?
[06:37] <JJ87> full*
[06:37] <Hobbsee> Cntryboy: then give us the link to the pastebin
[06:37] <Cntryboy> I have
[06:37] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.com/722658
[06:37] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: I am trying to open that pastebin link and it's taking a while
[06:38] <farous> eFoX: did you manage to work the wireless
[06:38] <Cntryboy> okay sorry ardchoille
[06:38] <eFoX> farous: ive gotten further. I can now scan, and i see my network
[06:38] <JJ87> which bootloader does ubuntu come bundled with is my last question?
[06:38] <farous> eFoX: cool
[06:38] <eFoX> farous: however, when i try to connect to it..i cannot
[06:38] <ice228> can anyone available for a common display problem question private me?
[06:38] <prwlr> JJ87, gdm
[06:38] <eFoX> farous: any suggestions ?
[06:38] <farous> eFoX: does it have a key wpa does not work somehow
[06:38] <mache> JJ87, grub
[06:38] <ardchoille> JJ87: grub
[06:38] <farous> wep work
[06:38] <prwlr> JJ87, ah grub sorry
[06:38] <JJ87> does it work well ive only seen lilo?
[06:39] <eFoX> farous: i set my router for open until i get it workin
[06:39] <prwlr> JJ87, grub works as advertised
[06:39] <mache> JJ87, works just fine, it doesn't need to be re-installed every time you install/remove a kernel
[06:39] <ardchoille> JJ87: I am assumng it works great.. seeing as how the best distro on the planet uses it ;)
[06:39] <JJ87> ok good cause ive never installed linux with windows on same drive and i cant loose the data on this drive lolz
[06:39] <michael___> :((((((((
[06:40] <wastrel> grub works good. i don't miss lilo at all
[06:40] <JJ87> thanks alot :)
[06:40] <dumbledore> hi
[06:40] <farous> eFoX: i had a strange thing with it. use the gnome network-admin. acess the card to set it. scan choose your net. close it and it will work. as odd it is. i don't know but this ritual make it work here
[06:40] <dumbledore> i just did a lil system update :\
[06:40] <michael___> What does it mean please configure hardware acceleration
[06:40] <dumbledore> and now grub won't recognize any of my partitions
[06:40] <michael___> i installed the drivers already what else does it need :-S
[06:40] <ardchoille> michael___: you need to install the 3d drivers for your vid card
[06:40] <michael___> i have them on my nvidia cd
[06:40] <hou5ton> my laptop screen is 1440x900 ... so I went into etc/X11/xorg.conf and made the addition, but after restarting X it is still 1024x768, and that is the highest option offered by the screen resolution menu.  I changed it in Breezy ... what am I missing here?
[06:40] <michael___>  will they do it?"
[06:41] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[06:41] <mache> hou5ton, your video card is an intel?
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <farous> hou5ton: jsut a note you restarted X right after you made the change
[06:41] <elknof3> hi everybody...  does someone knows of a how-to limewire for dapper??
[06:42] <ardchoille> michael___: nvidia card?
[06:42] <Cntryboy> ardchoille did that pastebin come up yet?
[06:42] <michael___> Yea
[06:42] <farous> elknof3: i just downloaded it to a local dir. extracted it and ran it
[06:42] <michael___> I have the cd it came with the gfx card
[06:42] <ardchoille> ubotu: tell michael___ about nvidia
[06:42] <elknof3> farous, what one??
[06:42] <ardchoille> Cntryboy: yes, but that's a heck of en error, lol
[06:42] <dumbledore> um someone pls help? :/
[06:42] <ToHellWithGA> somebody spotted me a terminal command to help migrate a directory to a new partition
[06:42] <farous> the othres. like sun. a tar file
[06:42] <michael___> :O
[06:42] <Cntryboy> no kidding
[06:42] <Cntryboy> only comes up when I try the voice chat out
[06:43] <ToHellWithGA> it was something that piped output to cpio i believe
[06:43] <elknof3> farous, runLime.sh??
[06:43] <hou5ton> farous: yes .. ahve restarted X
[06:43] <farous> elknof3: yap
[06:43] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: that may have been me.
[06:43] <hou5ton> mache: ATI 9700
[06:43] <neotard> Cntryboy:  well, I'm not python guru.. so take this with a grain of salt :)  it looks like you installed a python module that has a version mismatch from your python install for one thing.  and you also have a gtk load error, really no clue if they're related though.
[06:43] <elknof3> farous, dind't work on me...  i have already installed java...
[06:43] <Cntryboy> not sure how I haven't installed python
[06:44] <Cntryboy> thought ubuntu already has it installed
[06:44] <elknof3> farous, let me try it again...
[06:44] <mache> hou5ton, ah, i have a solution only for intel video cards :(
[06:44] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: it was you :)
[06:44] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: write it down this time :-)   cd <src>; find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse <target>
[06:44] <farous> hou5ton: backup your xorg.conf file then sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <maikol> Cntryboy, it should
[06:44] <ToHellWithGA> do you have a log from then?
[06:44] <farous> elknof3: check that it has execution permission
[06:44] <Cntryboy> then i'm not sure how I have a mismatch then
[06:44] <Intelligi> I did the distro quiz test, and it told me I wanted Ubuntu. That is good, because I was thinking of getting it anyway.
[06:44] <Intelligi> Do I need any special program to write the ISO to a CD?
[06:44] <michael___> i cant find nvidia-xconfig on synapic
[06:44] <wastrel> distro quiz test?
[06:45] <Cntryboy> screw this for one night
[06:45] <Cntryboy> take care all
[06:45] <Cntryboy> lates
[06:45] <Intelligi> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
[06:45] <wastrel> merci
[06:45] <wastrel> we'll see if i'm on the right distro
[06:45] <Intelligi> I am worried about my wireless card though. How will I know if it works with Linux?
[06:45] <cyphase> on an old install
[06:45] <PaPaPitufo> Intelligi, hello!
[06:45] <neotard> cntrboy installed a package incorrectly from outside the pool probably
[06:45] <PaPaPitufo> welcome to the other side!
[06:45] <cyphase> Intelligi: what model is it
[06:45] <Intelligi> I dunno.
[06:46] <farous> Intelligi: check it with a live cd
[06:46] <dumbledore> arrrrgh how to fix a broken grub :(
[06:46] <ardchoille> neotard: yeah, that's what I was thinking.. that or he used a debian repo and updated or something
[06:46] <Intelligi> I don't have enough ram for Live CD. Only 128.
[06:46] <cyphase> Intelligi: check the model
[06:46] <PaPaPitufo> Intelligi, you might remember me in works like the Octopus in the Meadow, Two Dozen's a Crowd, and Return from the Land of BeOS...
[06:46] <cyphase> it should be on the card
[06:46] <neotard> ardchoille:  hard to say.. like I told him, I stay away from python :)  I'm a groovy/java sort of person myself.
[06:46] <ardchoille> neotard: :)
[06:47] <michael___> 1 thing i like about linux keeps me busy lol
[06:47] <ardchoille> michael___: lol
[06:47] <Intelligi> I only have experience with Visual Basic and C++.
[06:47] <michael___> I have exp with vb only but idk if that would worko n her elolz
[06:47] <michael___> i use to use xp alot but everytime i went to a site or something i would ge spyware
[06:47] <ardchoille> michael___: you ever seen gambas?
[06:48] <neotard> michael___:  nice thing about linux.. once you have it where you want it, you can leave it for the most part
[06:48] <michael___> nope
[06:48] <dumbledore> "Official Ubuntu support channel"..................
[06:48] <michael___> :O
[06:48] <KevinIN72> man i still cant get rid of that damn file
[06:48] <dumbledore> can i get some support pls? :/
[06:48] <neotard> dumbledore:  do you have a zillion dollars?
[06:48] <zcat[1] _> what's broken?
[06:48] <dumbledore> >:/
[06:48] <dumbledore> grub
[06:48] <wastrel> sez debian or ubuntu
[06:49] <zcat[1] _> how'd you break it?
[06:49] <dumbledore> i dunno
[06:49] <michael___> how do u restart X lol
[06:49] <dumbledore> i just updated with synaptic
[06:49] <farous> dumbledore: can you boot in rescue mode
[06:49] <zcat[1] _> so what's it doing now?
[06:49] <dumbledore> no
[06:49] <michael___> i did it i think :-D just have to restart x
[06:49] <crimsun> michael___: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:49] <ardchoille> michael___: CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC
[06:49] <dumbledore> it says unrecognized partition format on all my partitions
[06:49] <farous> dumbledore: do you have an install cd
[06:49] <neotard> michael___:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:49] <dumbledore> yes that's what i'm on now
[06:49] <neotard> crimsun:  or that, hehe
[06:50] <farous> dumbledore: when you see the installation menu on the boot line type rescue
[06:50] <dumbledore> then what+
[06:50] <dumbledore> ?
[06:50] <eFoX> Ok. I want to confirm something because nothing seems to make sense when i do it. It appears to be random. WHAT IS THE CORRECT WAY TO CONNECT TO A WIRELESS NETWORK ? preferable in terminal
[06:50] <farous> dumbledore: answer all questoin nothing is changeing then you will get a menu to reinstall grub
[06:50] <Hobbsee> !wifi > eFoX
[06:50] <dumbledore> ok
[06:50] <eFoX> i have tried iwconfig interface essid "essid" and nothing
[06:50] <dumbledore> thanks
[06:51] <eFoX> i have restarted /etc/init.d/networking and it works...:|
[06:51] <eFoX> Hobbsee: thanks
[06:51] <George_Beginner_> :O
[06:51] <eFoX> and if i use the gui...its random..it works and it doesnt
[06:51] <ardchoille> Goodnight all, thanks for the pleasant company :) Be back soon.
[06:51] <woodwizzle> I'm having some java troubles
[06:51] <Mugginns> i'm looking for a way for a linux noobie to setup remote access via windows on my linux box, is there a somewhat easy way to, can someone put me at a faq ?
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: so far if i'm reading the docs right it's "find . |cpio -ldm --sparse /temporary/"
[06:52] <dts> my processor seems to be stuck in its lowest power state (for power management) eventhough the governor is stuck to performance and usage is 100% what could cause that
[06:52] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: write it down this time :-)   cd <src>
[06:52] <ic56>  find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse <target>
[06:52] <woodwizzle> I downloaded the moneydance trial (a quicken-ish java program for linux) and the installer crashes in java right away
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> -p for sure
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> i just caught that.
[06:52] <ToHellWithGA> this does seem post-it note worthy
[06:53] <farous> eFoX: bcm43xx depend on the proper firmware you have. so sometimes with so so driver you get firmware error
[06:53] <dts> my processor seems to be stuck in its lowest power state (for power management) eventhough the governor is stuck to performance and usage is 100% what could cause that
[06:54] <michael_> :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9
[06:54] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: -l isn't what you want.  It will try to create hard links between the source and target.  Thus if the source or target gets modified, teh other is too.
[06:54] <michael_> I did it and some weird blue screen came up with all this weird characters about my xorg file
[06:54] <ToHellWithGA> thanks again ic56.  is the -l "link instead of copying" easy to explain?
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <michael_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:55] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: read my prev msg
[06:55] <michael_> Whats this error mean?????
[06:55] <neotard> woodwizzle:  if you're using the standard ubuntu java, which is the GNU edition.  you might get more mileage by switching to sun java
[06:55] <ToHellWithGA> so it makes two files then links all changes
[06:55] <woodwizzle> neotard, i am using sun java :(
[06:56] <ToHellWithGA> i was wondering what it meant by links, but you explained it while things were whizzing by.  thanks
[06:56] <KevinIN72> Ok now this i cannot figure out what so ever, when i go to my ip with internet explorer it shows me the apache thing but when i do it with firefox it wants me to download some random file i dont even have on my server can anybody help me with this cuz i mostly use firefox
[06:56] <farous> woodwizzle: i presume you ran update-alternatives
[06:56] <crimsun> woodwizzle: you haven't exactly said /what/ troubles
[06:56] <woodwizzle> farous: no whats that
[06:56] <farous> woodwizzle: to select which java to run
[06:56] <neotard> crimsun:  he said the installer crashes :)
[06:56] <farous> and crimsun have a point
[06:56] <woodwizzle> crimsun, I get a traceback
[06:57] <michael_> what i do?
[06:57] <SurfnKid> well time to get some sleep, so cyas
[06:57] <neotard> suppose that really could be anything, hehe
[06:57] <farous> woodwizzle: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:57] <crimsun> woodwizzle: please pastebin it, and point us to the url.
[06:57] <farous> you will get a list choose the java you prefer
[06:58] <michael_> Anyone care to helP/
[06:58] <woodwizzle> farous: thank you!!! solved my problem
[06:58] <farous> :)
[06:58] <neotard> michael_:  I'm guessing that GLX isn't enabled :)
[06:58] <Fracture> I am running dapper, but wish to reinstall.  Am I able to run the new installer from my desktop ?
[06:58] <michael_> :O
[06:59] <michael_> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:59] <michael_> yep?
[06:59] <neotard> michael_:  look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the modules section for GLX, make sure there isn't a "#" in front of it
[06:59] <Intelligi> Do I need to use any special program when burning the ISO to a CD?
[06:59] <neotard> michael_:  although, nvidia specific I make no claim to understanding :)
[06:59] <ice228> is there any way to make the Xterminal transparent ?
[06:59] <michael_> 	Load	"glx"
[07:00] <neotard> ice228:  depends on your xterminal program
[07:00] <farous> ice228: gnome-terminal can be i think. eterm too all pseudotransp though
[07:00] <neotard> ice228:  if you're using gnome terminal it's under edit => current profile => effects
[07:01] <wastrel> Intelligi:  from windows?
[07:01] <RancidLM> any one have any good suggestions on how to capture a screen to a mpg ?
[07:01] <zcat[1] > if you have compiz, just point to it, hold left-alt and use the scrollwheel.
[07:01] <neotard> RancidLM:  want a video?  or just a stillshot?
[07:01] <michael_> idk whats wrong with it :(
[07:01] <michael_> wghats 3d desktop do?
[07:01] <RancidLM> neotard: ya
[07:01] <farous> RancidLM: screencast for moving frames.
[07:02] <wastrel> left alt and right alt have different keycodes?
[07:02] <neotard> RancidLM:  ya what?
[07:02] <RancidLM> neotard: sorry yes.. video :)
[07:02] <RancidLM> farous: *googling screencast :)
[07:02] <zcat[1] > RancidLM: screen to video try istanbul desktop recorder
[07:02] <gaz00> anyone here involved in bazaar?
[07:03] <neotard> RancidLM:  there you go :)
[07:03] <farous> RancidLM: wikipedia have nice section on that. too many programs can do it
[07:03] <michael_> Ok anyways how do i uninstall 3ddesk?
[07:03] <neotard> graham, then bibleboy connected.. coincidence?
[07:03] <farous> i use pyvnc though to have a flash video
[07:04] <neotard> michael_:  use "uninstall" instead of "install" with apt-get :)
[07:04] <michael_> :-D
[07:04] <Ademan> my laptop won't power down....
[07:04] <zcat[1] > My computer doesn't have enough grunt to record the desktop :(
[07:04] <michael_> so what would i tpye i forgot lol
[07:04] <neotard> michael_:  the downside is it will leave all configuration in place and only remove relevant program files
[07:04] <michael_> uninstall apt-get 3ddesktop?
[07:04] <neotard> swap the first two
[07:05] <zcat[1] > michael_: apt-get remove 3ddesk
[07:05] <Ademan> apt-get uninstall 3ddesktop
[07:05] <neotard> then check "man apt-get"
[07:05] <Ademan> well
[07:05] <Ademan> don't forget to sudo
[07:05] <neotard> er, yeah.. remove.  moving too fast tonight :(
[07:05] <zcat[1] > is it uninstall or remove? I thought it was remove!
[07:05] <neotard> zcat[1] :  it's remove :)
[07:05] <Ademan> zcat[1]  i haven't a clue, i use synaptic all the time :-p
[07:05] <michael_> :-S?
[07:06] <hou5ton> ok ... whoever was helping me with the screen resolution issue ... I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:06] <hou5ton> , and the cotton-picker is still 1024x768
[07:06] <Ademan> someone said uninstall so i just put uninstall
[07:06] <dddmt> does anyone know how to get mplayerplug-in to play wmv?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get remove --purge fake3dcrapthatsuckstoomuchcpu
[07:06] <zcat[1] > 3ddesktop is no compiz!
[07:06] <Ademan> zcat[1] : hehe, but you need xgl or aiglx for that!
[07:06] <michael_> so hmm wine is like 14mb to downloiad :(
[07:06] <hoosier_daddy> hey, how do I install quake 2?
[07:07] <Ademan> and xgl sucks, and aiglx isnt mature enough yet
[07:07] <zcat[1] > true. Fortunately I have :)
[07:07] <farous> dddmt: install mozilla-mplayer. i prefer the totem plugin though
[07:07] <dddmt> mozilla-player???
[07:08] <farous> dddmt: it is the mplayer plugin for firefox and mozilla
[07:08] <zcat[1] > xgl works well enough most of the time.. kinda sucks for playing 3d games under compiz though!
[07:08] <michael_> whats compiz
[07:08] <Ademan> compositioning window manager
[07:08] <lightstar> dddmt, if you want to play wmv check if you have the codec pack
[07:08] <wastrel> something difficult to install
[07:08] <zcat[1] > !compiz
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:08] <michael_> :O
[07:08] <hou5ton> in xorg.conf, 1440x900 is listed first, but 1024x768 is the only option offered on the screen resolution setting
[07:09] <dddmt> lightstar: lol yeah wmv only doesnt work in the plugin, thats why i said "mplayerplug-in"
[07:09] <zcat[1] > It's a really awesome 3d desktop.. does the desktop cube, wobble windows, transparency, etc...
[07:09] <dddmt> course i have the codecs
[07:09] <Ademan> zcat[1] : well a lot of people don't really care for xgl because its development was hidden from the public for a while, it replaces the ENTIRE x server(right?), which is kinda rediculous
[07:09] <neotard> might need to make a modeline for an off-size resolution
[07:09] <dddmt> and about:plugins says its installed to be working with wmv too
[07:09] <zcat[1] > Ademan: afaik it sits on top of xorg
[07:10] <farous> mplayer-plugin is old debian packg right
[07:10] <Ademan> well, all i know is that AIGLX is simply an Xorg extension
[07:10] <luishhc> i reinstalled windows and now when i start my computer, it goes right to windows and don't show grub. What i do to make grub appears again?
[07:10] <dddmt> what do you mean old?
[07:10] <neotard> X is bad as it is, there needs to be a less network-centric, more user-centric desktop model for the 99% of the users that don't need all of Xs idiosyncracies :)
[07:10] <lightstar> dddmt, i just dl the all codec pack from mplayer and put it in /usr/lib/win32 and it works :)
[07:10] <zcat[1] > yeah, aiglx would be better.. hafta wait.
[07:10] <farous> dddmt: it listed here as virtual package
[07:10] <dddmt> lightstar: its already there
[07:11] <dumbledore> hi i need more help :/
[07:11] <Ademan> neotard: well X came about for a reason, and frankly, so few people actually deal directly with X, its hard to complain
[07:11] <dddmt> lightstar: you use mplayerplug-in?
[07:11] <ToHellWithGA> thank you ic56.  everything is working fine now (although i don't know why the ethernet card would have been disabled by default)
[07:11] <zcat[1] > oops, have to go..
[07:11] <dumbledore> i tried booting my install cd in rescue mode but it said kernel option not available
[07:11] <neotard> Ademan:  I'm not complaining :)
[07:11] <nickrud> neotard, amen.
[07:11] <wastrel> !grub > luishhc
[07:11] <Ademan> neotard: haha, i feel sorry for the gtk+ developers though...
[07:11] <hou5ton> in xorg.conf, 1440x900 is the first listing, but when I restart X, all I get is 1024x768.  How can that be?
[07:11] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: yw!  eth card disabled?  check /etc/network/interfaces
[07:11] <dddmt> meow
[07:11] <dddmt> comon
[07:12] <lightstar> dddmt, nope..dun use it...i use mozilla-mplayer
[07:12] <dddmt> oh
[07:12] <Ademan> hou5ton: did you X each one that you wanted?
[07:12] <neotard> Ademan:  tbh, I had some hope for the fb drivers on the commandline.  awhile back there was a project to bring x-like abilities to the standard prompt using FB.. not sure whatever happened to that.
[07:12] <dddmt> that must be the differnece
[07:12] <wastrel> !mp3 > wastrel
[07:12] <hou5ton> Ademan: I x'd 1440x900
[07:12] <ice228> how would i go about finding a firewall for this OS ?
[07:12] <dumbledore> is there some weird command to boot the install cd in rescue mode?
[07:12] <wastrel> ice228:  firestarter
[07:12] <dumbledore> or am i using the wrong cd
[07:13] <neotard> ice228:  it's called iptables :D
[07:13] <nickrud> !restricted > nickrud
[07:13] <nickrud> new syntax
[07:13] <wastrel> spiffy eh nickrud?  no confirmation message to the sender tho.
[07:13] <farous> dumbledore: i just type rescue at the boot prompt
[07:13] <dddmt> ok im usinf mozilla-mplayer actually
[07:13] <Ademan> neotard: i honestly dont know anything about the fb stuff, thats fbdev right? i just got into the linux scene about a month ago
[07:13] <ice228> what about an anti virus ?
[07:13] <hou5ton> Ademan: so I'm confused about this ... I thought the machine had to obey xorg.conf
[07:13] <nickrud> gotta trust the bot, I guess wastrel
[07:13] <lightstar> dddmt, and still can't play wmv?
[07:14] <Ademan> hou5ton: heh, it does, have you restarted X since?
[07:14] <hou5ton> yes ...
[07:14] <neotard> Ademan:  it's the framebuffer, and it's just a way to graphically represent all the stuff on the prompt instead of using vesa modes.
[07:14] <ice228> ctrl + alt + Backspace
[07:14] <hou5ton> Ademan: i've restarted the whole machine
[07:14] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: is there something in particular i should be looking for?
[07:14] <hou5ton> is there an easier way to just restart X?
[07:14] <ice228> ctrl alt backspace
[07:14] <dumbledore> farous: it told me that the kernel option wasn't available
[07:14] <neotard> hou5ton:  "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:14] <nickrud> I usually mention the pm, so no real biggie there anyway
[07:14] <dddmt> lightstar: correct. i reinstalled it just now too
[07:15] <neotard> hou5ton:  if you've changed the configuration, you have to restart gdm for it to take hold
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> the address, network, and gateway are as i set them.  is there a flag to enable the card automatically?
[07:15] <farous> dumbledore: is it install or live cd. i used an install cd
[07:15] <lightstar> dddmt, now thats a weird one...
[07:15] <dumbledore> live
[07:15] <dddmt> lightstar: it doesnt even try it tries to download wmv
[07:15] <ice228> are there even viruses for linux?
[07:15] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: is that a wired ethernet card or wireless?
[07:15] <Ademan> hou5ton: are you using hardware acceleration? because thats a NUTS resolution for a graphics card, general rule of thumb is try and stick to square-ish sizes, as well as powers of two...
[07:15] <dddmt> lightstar: it gives me a download prompt
[07:15] <nickrud> wastrel, any other new syntax you know of?
[07:15] <farous> dumbledore: that is probab the reason someone else can help though for i never used the live cd
[07:15] <gads> HI can anyone help me? I am trying to run test.c in UBUNTU 5.10.. how do i do it?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> wired, ice56 :P
[07:15] <dumbledore> maybe i should try downloading the install cd :P
[07:15] <wastrel> nickrud:  no- i just saw someone else use that > trick earlier
[07:15] <neotard> Ademan:  looks like a widescreen resolution
[07:15] <thoreauputic> ice228: not really - only lab proof-of-concept ones
[07:16] <Ademan> neotard: well i understand the framebuffer part, i deal with openGL all the time, so i'm familar with that much, but what do you mean represent it on the prompt?
[07:16] <lightstar> dddmt, tats even better..when i couldnt play it it just showed no plugin...did u try restarting firefox after reinstalling the plugin?
[07:16] <nickrud> wastrel, heh :)) propogation!
[07:16] <dddmt> yeah
[07:16] <sp2hari> Casanova: ping
[07:16] <dddmt> i restarted
[07:16] <gads> HOw do you run .C programs in UBUNTU?????
[07:16] <gads> anyone??
[07:16] <Casanova> sp2hari: so ask :)
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> gads: i think .c is source
[07:16] <Ademan> gads: compile it....
[07:16] <sp2hari> Casanova: it said  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[07:16] <lightstar> gads, compile it
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> you may need to compile
[07:16] <neotard> Ademan:  well, the standard command-line is a textual vesa mode right?  with fb it's a just a big picture, so theoretcially you could essentially make the commandline a desktop background :)
[07:16] <Casanova> sp2hari: ask from the first dude
[07:16] <xphree> gads: compile it, gcc -o program program.c
[07:17] <xphree> gads: and then ./program
[07:17] <Ademan> neotard: hahah oh, cool i see
[07:17] <n1xt3r> where's the best place to go when you have breezy-dapper upgrade troubles? wiki.ubuntu.com?
[07:17] <hoosier_daddy> has anyone been able to install quake 2?
[07:17] <RancidLM> also one more thing one more suggestions of a movie editor for linux?
[07:17] <DripStone> hello, is anyone familiar with wget?
[07:17] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, yeah, why?
[07:17] <Ademan> neotard: i was actually making a toy OS for a while, but i didnt wanna dick with VESA, so i was stuck with VGA resolutions :-p
[07:17] <gads> ok the thing is
[07:18] <RancidLM> something non.linier perferiable
[07:18] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: I've installed the ubuntu packages, and I have the CD rom. I'm trying to figure out how to get the rest of the game installed.
[07:18] <neotard> Ademan:  vesa, vga... it's the same thing
[07:18] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, eh, gimme a sec :P
[07:18] <gads> I got a VM running ubuntu 5.10.. i dont know how to compile. I need to run this program.. how do i compile? DO i need to install C compiler in ubuntu?
[07:18] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: k
[07:18] <neotard> Ademan:  vesa defines how vga works :)
[07:18] <Ademan> neotard: gcc TheFile.c
[07:18] <wastrel> dumbledore:  try ctrl-alt-f2  to drop to terminal  usually any bootable cd can be used as a rescue disk... depending what you need to do
[07:18] <Ademan> neotard: huh, yeah vesa is the standards committee huh?
[07:18] <dddmt> lightstar: any ideas?
[07:19] <mikeeyyyy> Back i just sinatlled 3dchess and i have no idea where it is loacted?
[07:19] <wastrel> dumbledore:  ctrl-alt-f7 returns from that
[07:19] <Ademan> maybe its vesa EXTENSIONS i'm thinking of? i'm not entirely sure
[07:19] <dddmt> lightstar: i had this problem on gentoo, so i know im missing something
[07:19] <Ademan> well
[07:19] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: here's mine for a wired, static IP (not DHCP) setup:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16157
[07:19] <Ademan> gcc TheFile.c -o Output
[07:19] <gads> where do i type GCC? lol
[07:19] <DripStone> i'd like to know post-file parameter of wget, who is familiar with it plz?
[07:19] <xphree> gads: it has a Makefile ?
[07:19] <gads> this is so sad : [
[07:19] <xphree> gads: in the terminal
[07:19] <dumbledore> wasterl: ok i'll try it
[07:19] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data
[07:19] <lightstar> dddmt, cant think of a solution...sorry..just dun make sense
[07:19] <mikeeyyyy> where is the 3dchess loacted
[07:19] <xphree> gads: Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[07:19] <neotard> gads:  step away from the windows and get out the trusty terminal :
[07:20] <neotard> :)
[07:20] <dumbledore> wastrel: all i get is cmd prompt
[07:20] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: ok, running
[07:20] <mikeeyyyy> neotart where is 3dchess installed?
[07:20] <wastrel> mikeeyyyy:  /usr/games/3dchess prolly
[07:20] <xphree> gads: have you ever used bash ? or a shell ?
[07:20] <wastrel> dumbledore:  not a root prompt?
[07:20] <Ademan> anyone know about acpi and apm? my laptop won't power down...
[07:20] <dumbledore> wastrel, yeah, but what am i supposed to do from that
[07:20] <neotard> anyhow, need to take out the trash and such.
[07:20] <mikeeyyyy> i fought this was supposed to be 3d
[07:20] <wastrel> dumbledore:  anything you want :]  what do you need to do
[07:20] <mikeeyyyy> its like something out of windows 3.1
[07:21] <dumbledore> wastrel: reinstall grub
[07:21] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: pretty self explanatory. Except its asking where to the download should be stored. The default is /root. Did you install there?
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[07:21] <gads> i only been using windows my whole life : [
[07:21] <Schalken> why does firefox freeze straight after flash plays a sound?
[07:21] <Ademan> gads: but you DO have the terminal open right?
[07:21] <xphree> gads: hard
[07:21] <mikeeyyyy> time 2 install um
[07:21] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, basically it's asking where to dump the patches and stuff it downloads, yeah, /root is fine
[07:21] <Ademan> Schalken: flashplayer-nonfree is broken as hell, i have the same problem
[07:21] <xphree> gads: google bash tutorial or linux console tutorial :)
[07:22] <wastrel> dumbledore:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:22] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: does it do cleanup later?
[07:22] <mikeeyyyy> do u need wine to run gta3 or hl2 or something
[07:22] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, no, it downloads like 2 20mb files :P
[07:22] <Schalken> ademan: well it looks better than the free flahs clones ;)
[07:22] <gads> i go the terminal opened
[07:22] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: k
[07:22] <Ademan> mikeeyyyy: yeah, but good luck with that, i can't even get steam installed with wine
[07:22] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: thanks!
[07:22] <Schalken> ademan: id only the audio worked
[07:22] <mikeeyyyy> lmao
[07:22] <mikeeyyyy> What about dx9?
[07:22] <dddmt> lightstar: does your plugin play imbeded?
[07:22] <gads> and i type -gcc.. it then says bash: gcc command file not found?
[07:22] <burepe2> I got an unformated hard drive that I am trying to format through qtparted or gparted but I can't get it to come up in those programs. Do I have to mount it and unmount it before it will be recognized? But if it is unformated there is no file system so how can it be mounted? what am I doing wrong?
[07:22] <DarkMageZ> Ademan & Schalken, flash 9 is coming in early 2007 ^-^
[07:22] <dumbledore> wastrel: that says i have to use the rescue thing tho
[07:22] <ice228> where do i find the universe repos ?
[07:23] <dumbledore> wastrel: and my cd won't let me
[07:23] <Ademan> gads: gcc SourceFile.c  -o OutputFile
[07:23] <Ademan> no -
[07:23] <Ademan> Schalken: well i get sound some of the time, other times it crashes it
[07:23] <eps> how does one get ffox 1.5.x for ubuntu 5.10?
[07:23] <Ademan> it actually tends to work for games, but not, say, you-tube
[07:23] <Schalken> ademan: me too, i mean, badgerbadgerbadger.com works fine ;)
[07:24] <ice228> could anyone tell me where to find the universe repository
[07:24] <Ademan> Schalken: its sad, its annoying
[07:24] <Ademan> !tell ice228 about universe
[07:24] <dumbledore> farous: could you give me a link to the cd img that does have rescue option?
[07:24] <Ademan> did i fail? did that work?
[07:24] <mikeeyyyy> How can u spoof a ip with linux?
[07:24] <wastrel> dumbledore:  no that's a different section.  look at the "using the livecd" section
[07:24] <eps> mikeeyyyy, google some script kiddie websites
[07:24] <DarkMageZ> Schalken & Ademan, sound can be made to work, please look @ the notes about it in the restrictedformats entre in the wiki
[07:25] <burepe2> ice228:  read this
[07:25] <mikeeyyyy> lol eips
[07:25] <mikeeyyyy> eps*
[07:25] <nickrud> Ademan, the bot doesn't respond back to you anymore
[07:25] <burepe2> !sources
[07:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:25] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: it works, just its very inconsistent
[07:25] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i don't have network or broadcast, but mine is similar.  i think everything is lagging while catching up, perhaps with an update i installed
[07:25] <Schalken> thanks DarkMageZ: ill look into that
[07:25] <acts> i am back, i just registered my name
[07:25] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, it works all the time, if u have alook @ the notes in the wiki
[07:25] <DarkMageZ> !tell ademan about restricted formats
[07:25] <HBuzacott> mikeeyyyy, where you on yesterday with a different name (michael)?
[07:25] <burepe2> ice228: sorry wrong one
[07:25] <ToHellWithGA> for example, a link from XChat said firefox was already open and i'd have to close it then finally opened firefox a few minutes later.  no worries
[07:25] <acts> basically, i downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware/Ubuntu-5.10.zip
[07:25] <mikeeyyyy> yes that was me i think
[07:25] <burepe2> !source-o-matic
[07:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:26] <mikeeyyyy> i used michael___
[07:26] <burepe2> that one
[07:26] <mikeeyyyy> never michael cause its always taken
[07:26] <acts> and i need to compile this file. gcc -o program program.c and it says  bash " gcc command not found
[07:26] <nickrud> ice228, did you get the pm from ubotu that mentions universe?
[07:26] <acts> what am i doing wrong?
[07:26] <crimsun> acts: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:26] <Ademan> how could one NOT have gcc?!?!
[07:27] <wastrel> mmm build-essential.
[07:27] <sp2hari> Casanova: hey pnayak told me to work from remote system and since i am getting the UI once when i login through SSH , the main problem is over
[07:27] <neotard> Ademan:  it's not installed by default
[07:27] <ToHellWithGA> Ademan: say you wanted your client to have exactly what you give him
[07:27] <neotard> Ademan:  what wastrel said :)
[07:27] <nickrud> I don't have build-essential
[07:27] <crimsun> Ademan: we've had 4 releases with it not installed by default.
[07:27] <dumbledore> wastrel: i put in root (hd1,1)
[07:27] <ToHellWithGA> it'd be good to feed him a pre-packaged setup without tools to customize (and potentially break) too much
[07:27] <sp2hari> sp2hari: now the problem of stdio.h not found, she asked me whether i have set the path for the file, how do i do that ???
[07:27] <Casanova> sp2hari: ok
[07:27] <Casanova> sp2hari: build-essential dude
[07:27] <Casanova> i told you already
[07:27] <dumbledore> wastrel: and it says filesystem type unknown
[07:28] <neotard> you don't get C by default, but you do get an nvidia driver! :D
[07:28] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: hmm, while network and broadcast can be defaulted, omitting them might lead to errors in the code that parses this config file.  Besides, teh defaults may not be right for you.  If the problem persists, try adding them and see if it fixes the problem.
[07:28] <DarkMageZ> Ademan, we don't expect users to build software from source, and if they are going to, they should ATLEAST beable to install build-essentials :P
[07:28] <sp2hari> Casanova: just a sec let me do that
[07:28] <Ademan> crimsun: hmm, for some reason i thought it was installed on my dapper by default... but maybe I was dreaming, and maybe i knew i was gonna need it
[07:28] <dumbledore> wastrel: ,partition type 0x93
[07:29] <neotard> Ademan:  I think the server version has it
[07:29] <wastrel> dumbledore:  is that your ubuntu boot partition?
[07:29] <Ademan> DarkMageZ: hehe, true, i guess even though ubuntu has made leaps and bounds for linux usability, I still think that the majority of users are fairly tech savvy, and probably programmers at least to some degree (or maybe thats just my impression)
[07:29] <dumbledore> wastrel: yes
[07:29] <Cornellius> I have downloaded a window decoration for kde-look, but I don't know where to extract the files. Can someone help me ?
[07:29] <nickrud> first hurdle, build essential
[07:29] <farous> Ademan: the default install should be a lean one. and you are one package away from having it. build essential
[07:29] <hoosier_daddy> DarkMageZ: hey, so everything downloaded and installed. should I be able to run now?
[07:29] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, yup, "should" work, tho, don't run it while using xgl
[07:29] <hoosier_daddy> it's saying "Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx"
[07:30] <javiolo> I have only 256mb of ram making my swap bigger could make things faster ?
[07:30] <wastrel> dumbledore:  i'm not competent to assist with grub troubleshooting, perhaps some other kind soul will take over from here...
[07:30] <neotard> want to know what confused me more than anything.. after installation not having root ;)   lol, silly.. I know
[07:30] <dumbledore> :/
[07:30] <ToHellWithGA> thanks again ic56.  care to explain why you put a V in ToHellWithGA?  are you a UGA fan?
[07:30] <eFoX> ok, I'm going to write/copy a script. Where can do i save it ?
[07:31] <eFoX> .bashrc ?
[07:31] <DarkMageZ> hoosier_daddy, hmm, odd
[07:31] <eFoX> .bash_profile ?
[07:31] <neotard> eFoX:  for what?
[07:31] <ToHellWithGA> eFoX: /usr/bin i think
[07:31] <nickrud> eFoX, not. those have special uses
[07:31] <wastrel> dumbledore:  you're sure that's where your linux /boot resides?
[07:31] <neotard> eFoX:  if it's just "a script" for something YOU are doing.. just save it in your home directory somewhere
[07:31] <dumbledore> westrel: yes positive
[07:31] <nickrud> eFoX, what is this scrip supposed to do?
[07:32] <dumbledore> westrel: i can sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/fs and browse it
[07:32] <dumbledore> *wastrel
[07:32] <ToHellWithGA> if you want to be able to type "blah" during any terminal session and have it run, save it in /usr/bin and set the permissions to executable for that file
[07:32] <Casanova> which package contains the usual header files like stdio.h?
[07:32] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: Oh!  that's why you weren't noticing my messages. I misread your nick. Second time I've done this today. Maybe my eyesight is deteriorating.  Sorry!
[07:33] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  that's bad advice.
[07:33] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: What does GA stand for, anyway?
[07:33] <Cornellius> Anyone knows some good card games for Linux ? I would love to play Cribbage under Ubuntu :)
[07:33] <wastrel> Casanova:  glibc i'm guessing or glibc-dev
[07:33] <Novastorm> Casanova, install the build-essentials package
[07:33] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: the university (sic) of georgia, my school's rival
[07:33] <Casanova> Novastorm: installed
[07:34] <wastrel> Casanova:  libc6-dev it seems
[07:34] <farous> neotard: sorry wireless probl
[07:34] <ic56> ToHellWithVGA: ah.
[07:34] <ToHellWithGA> neotard: we still haven't heard why he wants this "script" but i find my scripts most useful when i can run them anytime anywhere
[07:34] <ToHellWithGA> what method would you recommend for getting the same functionality?
[07:34] <ruxpin> how do I resolve the current runlevel?
[07:35] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  the slb suggestion is /usr/local/bin for local installtion binaries, and the like
[07:35] <eFoX> neotard: to kickstart my wireless, I have to configure some ish before it works. I figure to it one go. I think i got it. Google rocks !
[07:35] <crimsun> ruxpin: meaning ``runlevel''?
[07:35] <ToHellWithGA> neotard: i'm somewhat new here.  what is slb?
[07:35] <wastrel> dumbledore:  take a look at the drive numbers in your /boot/grub/menu.lst  :] 
[07:35] <javiolo> I have only 256mb of ram making my swap bigger could make things faster ?
[07:36] <wastrel> dumbledore:  if it's root(1,1) i dunno what to tell you :/
[07:36] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  it's just the standard directory structure recommendations for linux distros :)
[07:36] <dumbledore> wastrel: yeah it is :/
[07:36] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  among other things
[07:36] <dumbledore> *hd1,1
[07:36] <ToHellWithGA> is it the same thing as the filesystem standard?
[07:36] <nickrud> javiolo, no, only allow you to run more things
[07:36] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  yeah, it's all part of the same thing
[07:36] <ToHellWithGA> cool.  thanks for the info
[07:37] <farous> !pastebin
[07:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:37] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  it's generally a Good Thing to keep a modicum of seperation between local files and system files.
[07:37] <nickrud> modicom?
[07:37] <neotard> ToHellWithGA:  not everyone agrees with that :)
[07:37] <javiolo> nickrud so the answer is more ram right ?
[07:37] <Eleaf> hi
[07:37] <Eleaf> you need at least 50000000 gb ram
[07:38] <nickrud> javiolo, absolu damn tutly
[07:38] <Eleaf> If you felt like it
[07:38] <neotard> nickrud:  no, modicum
[07:38] <nickrud> just abit, then
[07:38] <wastrel> dumbledore:  google sez grub bug may change partition type to 0x93 - you can fix with fdisk maybe?  don't wipe your drive 8-O
[07:38] <wastrel> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=13044
[07:40] <ToHellWithGA> javiolo: if you increase the swap size you may be able to run more things simultaneously without "running out of memory" but a lot of that "memory" will be files on your hard drive and much slower
[07:40] <nickrud> hrm, readback can be hell
[07:40] <ToHellWithGA> it would get a lot slower fast if much data gets pushed to swap rather than memory
[07:41] <nickrud> javiolo, in other words, a gig beats 256MB hands down for for permormance at the keyboard
[07:41] <neotard> out of curiousity, anyone with fglrx find that xawtv makes X black out?
[07:42] <XTORTION> hi everyone im running quake 3 i get no sound, this is the error i recive Could not mmap dma buffer PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ
[07:42] <XTORTION> trying mmap PROT_WRITE (with associated better compatibility / less performance code)
[07:42] <XTORTION> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[07:42] <XTORTION> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[07:42] <XTORTION>  can any one help me?
[07:42] <XTORTION> wo
[07:43] <dumbledore> wastrel: thx ill give it a shot :O
[07:43] <dumbledore> wastrel: do you know what the id is supposed to be for the ntfs drives too by any chance? im having a hard time finding a list of all the fs numbers
[07:43] <ruxpin> crimsun: the current runlevel..
[07:43] <XTORTION> hello does any one here play quake 3?
[07:43] <crimsun> ruxpin: ``runlevel''
[07:43] <nomasteryoda> Ubuntu ROX
[07:43] <ruxpin> crimsun: ah
[07:44] <ruxpin> crimsun: 'N 2'
[07:44] <javiolo> nickrud Ill try to find 1gb
[07:44] <garryF> I'd just run fdisk and hit the command to see the list of known file system numbers.
[07:44] <ic56> dumbledore: NTFS partitions are code 7
[07:44] <nickrud> javiolo, I
[07:44] <ruxpin> crimsun: what does the 'N' stand for?
[07:44] <nomasteryoda> just got my $22 intel ipw2200 chipset miniPCI card for my laptop, downloaded latest firmware, extracted into /lib/firmware, rebooted and have WPA wifi...
[07:44] <nomasteryoda> again, thanks Ubuntu people
[07:45] <garryF> Nice Try File System
[07:45] <javiolo> nickrud what ?
[07:45] <nomasteryoda> i have 100% power levels now
[07:45] <crimsun> ruxpin: it's the previous runlevel
[07:45] <nickrud> 'm looking for the same; but you can run a lot of stuff in small memory and a reasonable swap. Just monitor it.
[07:45] <crimsun> ruxpin: in this case, it means "no previous one"
[07:46] <ruxpin> ok
[07:46] <ruxpin> the last number is always the current one?
[07:46] <crimsun> XTORTION: your sound hardware doesn't support mmap in the driver, which well, can't be worked around
[07:46] <crimsun> ruxpin: "last current"
[07:46] <crimsun> rather, "previous current"
[07:47] <crimsun> XTORTION: there are some hackarounds that will likely freeze your system.
[07:47] <ruxpin> crimsun: thanks, that's all I need I think :)
[07:47] <crimsun> ruxpin: ``man runlevel'' should explain it
[07:47] <dumbledore> ic56: why isnt grub loading them right then :S
[07:47] <ruxpin> crimsun: except if you know if there's a better tool than sysv-rc-conf to list the runnin daemons
[07:48] <ashzilla> !sources
[07:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:48] <crimsun> ruxpin: a thorough read of ps and netstat?
[07:48] <JohnnyX> where is the setting so that i dont have to enter my password everytime i close the lid of my laptop?
[07:48] <XTORTION> ?
[07:48] <crimsun> ruxpin: susv-rc-conf is known to break some initscripts' executions
[07:48] <crimsun> sys^
[07:48] <crimsun> XTORTION: what's unclear?
[07:48] <wastrel> JohnnyX:  if you find out, let me know
[07:49] <ruxpin> crimsun: I think it's not installed on ubuntu by default
[07:49] <XTORTION> i have audiophile 2496
[07:49] <JohnnyX> lol wastrel
[07:49] <crimsun> ruxpin: it shouldn't be.
[07:49] <ruxpin> crimsun: is there a tool that is?
[07:49] <ashzilla> !repositories
[07:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:49] <JohnnyX> no one knows?
[07:49] <crimsun> ruxpin: ps and netstat are both
[07:49] <polpak> wastrel JohnnyX I do
[07:49] <ashzilla> !easysource
[07:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:49] <crimsun> ruxpin: you could also look in /etc/rc2.d/
[07:49] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: that's a good card.  do you have alsa-tools-gui installed?
[07:49] <ruxpin> crimsun: you can't use ps to match services
[07:49] <JohnnyX> would you care to share that information polpak ?
[07:49] <XTORTION> let me double check
[07:49] <polpak> JohnnyX: I changed my configuration to shutdown the computer when you close the lid instead
[07:50] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: if you have to check you don't have it installed
[07:50] <JohnnyX> i dont wanna do that
[07:50] <XTORTION> lol
[07:50] <JohnnyX> i just dont want to have to enter my password everytime i close it
[07:50] <crimsun> XTORTION: have you used the proc tuning?
[07:50] <Wonderbird> Anyone using WUSB54G with 6.06?
[07:50] <JohnnyX> do you know how to do that?
[07:50] <polpak> JohnnyX: I know
[07:50] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: do a search in synaptic or aptitude for "envy24"
[07:50] <XTORTION> your right its not
[07:50] <polpak> JohnnyX: one sec
[07:50] <JohnnyX> k
[07:50] <dumbledore> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[07:50] <dumbledore> i changed the numbers back
[07:50] <crimsun> XTORTION: echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" |sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[07:50] <dumbledore> then grub went and changed em to 93 again
[07:50] <dumbledore> :/
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> you'll want the envy24control mixer to properly manage your sound card.  then you can start troubleshooting the game/card combo
[07:51] <dddmt> lightstar: still not working
[07:51] <ic56> dumbledore: other reasons.  I can't find it now but there's an entry in the wiki describing how to correctly setup grub to boot windows partitions.  Try google for: grub windows
[07:51] <crimsun> XTORTION: beware: running q3a afterward may hard-freeze your machine.
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: do you know offhand if that uses alsa?
[07:51] <nickrud> rlfol, my god
[07:51] <ashzilla> Can someone direct me to the default Dapper Sources entry.
[07:51] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: if what uses alsa?
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> quake's sound output
[07:51] <polpak> !sources
[07:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:51] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: it uses oss
[07:51] <XTORTION> Cok i loaded the alsa gui
[07:51] <polpak> hrm
[07:51] <polpak> !universe
[07:52] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: run envy24control
[07:52] <XTORTION> lol not found
[07:52] <ashzilla> polpak: it seems it was removed. I just did a fresh install and it's not there anymore, under the !sources entry.
[07:52] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: alsa has stuff to play nice with the chipset in his card.  i don't know anything at all about oss sound
[07:52] <polpak> !multiverse
[07:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:52] <polpak> ergh
[07:52] <polpak> who messed it up
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: just so we're on the same page, lets do "sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-gui"
[07:53] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: I know ALSA works nicely for the ice1724. I backported support for it in Ubuntu.
[07:53] <XTORTION> thats alsready loaded
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> after than "envy24control"
[07:53] <ashzilla> polpak: This is extremely frustrating. :[
[07:53] <JohnnyX> so how do i set it so i dont have to enter my password everytime i close the lid of my laptop?
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> it should be there if you've installed it
[07:53] <XTORTION> ok started
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: i can smell your pride now :P
[07:53] <XTORTION> lol
[07:54] <XTORTION> ok i started envy
[07:54] <JohnnyX> what would it be under?
[07:54] <polpak> ashzilla: I can pastebin my sources.lst
[07:54] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: use that to set your volume levels as needed.  iirc the first two sliders in the mixer bit are left and right, so don't put L&R max on each.  max L on 1 and R on 2, kapisch?
[07:55] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, well, he does have standing
[07:55] <polpak> JohnnyX: one sec
[07:55] <JohnnyX> k
[07:55] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: pride? hardly.
[07:55] <ashzilla> polpak: I'd apprciate that
[07:56] <yaniv> Hello, can anyone tell me how to create an icon on the desktop to  a mounted filesystem (like the one that should be created automatically, but for some reason wasn't)?
[07:56] <garryF> You know what pride comes before don't ye?
[07:56] <catch23> hm, anyone getting slow internet?  i'm getting horrible roundtrips to google/microsoft.com on traceroute
[07:56] <garryF> It comes before smith in the phonebook.
[07:56] <JohnnyX> im having problems with google catch23
[07:56] <ToHellWithGA> garryF: well-written ice1712 chipset stuff?
[07:57] <wastrel> internet not slow
[07:57] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: (you mean ice1724)
[07:57] <garryF> Nice!
[07:57] <polpak> ashzilla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16162
[07:57] <watchme> hi
[07:58] <ArmedKing> Can someone tell me how i can burn *.img files, and/or convert it to *.iso?
[07:58] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: you say potato.  what exactly is a "backport"?  i'm in this game for the free without guilt software more than learning to be a coder
[07:58] <catch23> hm, well i'm based in georgia... so maybe it's comcast's fault
[07:58] <watchme> I have a problem with my Kubuntu/amarok and libvisuals
[07:58] <ashzilla> polpak: Thanks
[07:58] <XTORTION> i still get this error
[07:58] <crimsun> ToHellWithGA: it means the sound stuff that you're touching can be blamed largely on me.
[07:58] <watchme> can anyone help me?
[07:58] <Sir_Brizz> watchme, #kubuntu
[07:58] <XTORTION> Could not mmap dma buffer PROT_WRITE|PROT_READ
[07:58] <XTORTION> trying mmap PROT_WRITE (with associated better compatibility / less performance code)
[07:58] <XTORTION> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[07:58] <XTORTION> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[07:58] <XTORTION> -----------------------------
[07:58] <Sjoerd-> does anyone know how to create and configure new users for pure-ftpd?
[07:58] <Sphearion> I was happily suprised that ubuntu saw my wireless card during installl
[07:59] <garryF> I think it's either k3b that can write iso's to a cd
[07:59] <garryF> !iso
[07:59] <ashzilla> polpak: Exactly how I remember mine, thanks :)
[07:59] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:59] <nickrud> soop, ToHellWithGA
[07:59] <Sphearion> k3b resembles nero yes
[07:59] <crimsun> XTORTION: as I was saying before, mmapping /dev/snd is not supported on your chipset
[07:59] <crimsun> XTORTION: sorry, /dev/dsp
[07:59] <XTORTION> hmm
[07:59] <crimsun> XTORTION: did you try the echo line I gave you before (and heed the warning)?
[07:59] <XTORTION> im gona do that 1s
[08:00] <Sphearion> garryF K3B is the KDE burner
[08:00] <ArmedKing> !img
[08:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about img
[08:00] <XTORTION> didnt work
[08:00] <XTORTION> what if i used jacked
[08:00] <XTORTION> i think i herd about that some where
[08:00] <garryF> Yeah, I have gome and k3b and it shows up in gnome too. Older style kde stuff can work in gnome too.
[08:00] <ashzilla> Can someone tell me where I can rename my local domain name: (Ex. ashzilla@ashzilla-laptop <--- the ashzilla-laptop)
[08:00] <farous_> ArmedKing: you can "/msg ubotu" if you want
[08:00] <Tremitos> hello
[08:00] <isofunk> sup
[08:00] <farous_> neotard: sorry dc again
[08:01] <crimsun> XTORTION: quake3 doesn't have a jack output. You can /attempt/ to use the hackarounds that redirect oss to jack (to run via alsa)
[08:01] <JohnnyX> polpak, did you find that thing?
[08:01] <garryF> I wonder what the 3b stands dor.
[08:01] <crimsun> XTORTION: but those require patching the kernel and recompiling
[08:01] <XTORTION> ;/
[08:01] <Gonzo> any reason why i dont see the flash firefox plugin in my synaptic?
[08:01] <wastrel> ashzilla:  be very careful about that - it can break your system...
[08:01] <wastrel> ashzilla:  first change /etc/hosts
[08:01] <farous_> Gonzo: enable extra-repos ?
[08:01] <XTORTION> ok well thanks for your help :) both of you
[08:01] <Gonzo> i did
[08:02] <XTORTION> im gona try and load my onbord audo card
[08:02] <farous_> Gonzo: did you update after that
[08:02] <Gonzo> yes
[08:02] <ToHellWithGA> meh.  thank crimsun b/c he knows what he's talking about.  i'm stabbing blindly using my little experience
[08:02] <crimsun> XTORTION: you could always just use your onboard for q3a and your 2496 for everything else
[08:02] <ashzilla> wastrel: Alright.
[08:02] <farous_> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:02] <polpak> JohnnyX: still looking. Essentially it is in /etc/acpi but you have to be careful how you configure it. Because you do want it to shut off the screen (otherwise it'll waste battery) just don't want it to lock
[08:02] <wastrel> ashzilla:  now change /etc/hostname
[08:03] <XTORTION> thats what i think i will do one problem lol i cant use both i can only use one at a time
[08:03] <XTORTION> stupid asus mb
[08:03] <Gonzo> gonzo@FrankyNux:/home/shared/www/CV$ sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <Gonzo> Password:
[08:03] <Gonzo> E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <farous_> Gonzo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:03] <ToHellWithGA> XTORTION: you could also loop it
[08:03] <crimsun> XTORTION: hmm, you should be able to use both.
[08:03] <wastrel> ashzilla:  i think that's it.  using the gui tool breaks sudo and X and other stuff.
[08:03] <XTORTION> loop?
[08:03] <ToHellWithGA> i push my onboard analog out through my M-Audio's analog in
[08:03] <crimsun> XTORTION: ...unless your motherboard has resource allocation problems?
[08:04] <JohnnyX> do you have a file on it polpak or are you looking for that actual settings?
[08:04] <Sphearion> no clue garry
[08:04] <ashzilla> wastrel: Uh oh
[08:04] <ToHellWithGA> the latency is fairly low and then i can play sounds i otherwise couldn't get to agree with the M-Audio card
[08:04] <Gonzo> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[08:04] <ashzilla> ashzilla@ashzilla-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[08:04] <ashzilla> ashzilla@ashzilla-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[08:04] <ashzilla> sudo: unable to lookup ashzilla-laptop via gethostbyname()
[08:04] <garryF> I wonder if the 3b is the code for the joliet system, that iso uses on cd
[08:04] <XTORTION> its on auto
[08:04] <XTORTION> so wont let me pic
[08:04] <garryF> I treid to find out, but I can't get fdisk to let me at the menu to see the known file types.
[08:05] <garryF> !filetypes
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about filetypes
[08:05] <wastrel> ooops sorry !
[08:05] <garryF> !fs
[08:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about fs
[08:05] <farous_> find flashplugin-nonfree
[08:05] <polpak> JohnnyX: I'm looking over the settings. I have it now though
[08:05] <polpak> wastrel: you want this too?
[08:05] <ashzilla> wastrel: What do I do man, I'm stuck now. lol
[08:05] <wastrel> ashzilla:  fix it by booting to recovery mode and editing those 2 files
[08:05] <wastrel> polpak:  yes!
[08:05] <ashzilla> -.-
[08:05] <ashzilla> Bleh, I have to reboot.
[08:05] <crimsun> Gonzo: you need to have multiverse enabled.
[08:05] <ToHellWithGA> garryF: when i want to hassle ubotu to see what she actually knows i hop in a PM and start spouting off search terms
[08:05] <Gonzo> multiverse?
[08:05] <wastrel> ashzilla:  make sure they match... sorry i thought hosts first then hostname was the right order
[08:06] <dumbledore> aha! ubuntu is booting once again :)
[08:06] <wastrel> yay
[08:06] <ToHellWithGA> she's good for some of the usual topics but google is good as well
[08:06] <crimsun> Gonzo: see query from ubotu
[08:06] <Sphearion> garry no 3b is not the code for joliet
[08:06] <Sphearion> let me ask the great google
[08:06] <dumbledore> now to get windoze to work too... =/
[08:06] <ashzilla> Okay, I'll be back.
[08:06] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel  Ok, sudo cp /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh /etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:06] <Gonzo> query from ubotu?
[08:06] <farous_> does tell work?
[08:07] <Sphearion> Burn Baby Burn  < 3 B
[08:07] <JohnnyX> polpak,
[08:07] <JohnnyX> cannot stat no such file or directory
[08:07] <dumbledore> woot it workin too :)
[08:07] <polpak> JohnnyX: um.. check again?
[08:07] <dumbledore> thx @wastrel
[08:07] <polpak> JohnnyX: cd /etc/acpi
[08:07] <JohnnyX> i am
[08:07] <JohnnyX> i got it
[08:08] <wastrel> heh yw - if i say enough things sometimes i have to be right
[08:08] <JohnnyX> but it still asks for a password when i close the lid
[08:08] <garryF> ToHellWithGA Good idea.
[08:08] <JohnnyX> do i need to restart?
[08:08] <polpak> JohnnyX: I wasn't done yet
[08:08] <JohnnyX> or kill gnome
[08:08] <JohnnyX> oh sorry
[08:08] <neotard> farous:  thanks, was setting it up wrong.. using the xinerama option in conjunction with a multihead setup, which wasn't working obviously :)
[08:08] <dermawan123> hello
[08:08] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel now sudo nano screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:08] <crimsun> Gonzo: a private message from the bot
[08:08] <neotard> farous:  now to figure out tvcard issues under the proprietary ati driver.
[08:09] <Gonzo> i didn't get none...
[08:09] <farous_> neotard: you are welcomed
[08:09] <william_> hello
[08:09] <sdfsfd> yo
[08:09] <farous_> neotard: flgrx is buggy it might be harder for tvcard though i never used it
[08:09] <william_> man I just installed this the other day
[08:09] <sdfsfd> im on mirc in linux tee hee
[08:10] <william_> :D
[08:10] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel remove the line that says ". /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank"
[08:10] <ToHellWithGA> william_: hi.  what's up?
[08:10] <william_> Man ubuntu is cool !
[08:10] <william_> This is my first time with linux
[08:10] <william_> I got this cd from my school
[08:10] <dermawan123> guys need help here, who can i talk to?
[08:10] <ice228> where would i put the files i downloaded to change my login screen? i think its gdm
[08:10] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel remove the line that says ". /usr/share/acpi-support/screenblank"
[08:10] <sdfsfd> ubuntu is pretty good for linux
[08:10] <wastrel> doh polpak did i miss anything :] 
[08:10] <sdfsfd> i am surprised too
[08:10] <neotard> farous:  radeon driver works beautifully, under fglrx the whole set of screens literally black out and don't ever recover.  not good :D
[08:10] <sdfsfd> i came from gentoo
[08:10] <ToHellWithGA> william_: it's so easy compared to redhat/fedora or mandrake
[08:10] <sdfsfd> because all other distros sucked
[08:11] <william_> I totally deleted XP off my computer
[08:11] <ice228> in what folder would i put the files to change my login screen ?
[08:11] <william_> and am using all the progs I can with Ubuntu :D
[08:11] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel replace it with this line instead  "xset dpms force off" #don't use the quotes
[08:11] <garryF> /boot/grub I believe
[08:11] <ToHellWithGA> william_: i hope you didn't jump the gun.  i found out that my Sony jukebox software won't run under WINE
[08:11] <william_> I recorded my first song with ubuntu tonight!
[08:11] <ice228> thanks
[08:11] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel good so far?
[08:11] <Sjoerd-> anyone knows how to use/configure pure-ftpd via cli? I have it running but have no idea how to add new users.
[08:12] <Sphearion> say your out of blank cd's but you have alot of blank dvd's could you burn the iso to dvd and would it still be usable?
[08:12] <ToHellWithGA> everything else about free software was great, but no way to transfer music to/from my minidisc player kinda hurts
[08:12] <JohnnyX> sorry hang on
[08:12] <Freenux> Salut tout le monde ;)
[08:12] <wastrel> polpak:  rgr
[08:12] <JohnnyX> ive never used nano b4
[08:12] <william_> Well, I actually screwed up a partition with a ton of homework on it by mistake, trying to re install windows no doubt
[08:12] <ashzilla> wastrel: I now have my correct hostname, however... I can't sudo
[08:12] <garryF> I bet it has strick format rules tho, such as the file type and resolution, I could be wrong.
[08:12] <ice228> and how do i give myslef permission to write to folders?
[08:12] <william_> Ah man
[08:12] <polpak> JohnnyX: you can use a different editor if you prefer
[08:12] <william_> Using your MD is easy with linux
[08:12] <Sphearion> ill be a guinea pig, ill burn the 700meg iso to a dvd and see if it still works ;)
[08:12] <wastrel> ashzilla:  what happens?
[08:12] <polpak> JohnnyX: just need to replace that line
[08:12] <william_> You gotta download the plug in for real player
[08:12] <ice228> how do i give myself wrtie right ?
[08:12] <william_> And real player is supported !
[08:12] <ashzilla> wastrel: nm, I actually retyped my password wrong 3 times. I'm a novice. :o
[08:13] <wastrel> k :] 
[08:13] <ice228> wrtie right*
[08:13] <Freenux> y aurait-il une personne qui parlerait en franais ?
[08:13] <polpak> JohnnyX: you caught up?
[08:13] <wastrel> !fr
[08:13] <william_> Anyway, my SUPPORT question is
[08:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:13] <Sphearion> wasting dvd NOW!
[08:13] <Freenux> merci ubotu ;)
[08:13] <william_> why is ubuntu running so sluggish on my computer?
[08:13] <Freenux> thank you ubotu ;)
[08:13] <polpak> william_:  sluggish in what way?
[08:14] <william_> like, a delay
[08:14] <JohnnyX> thats it polpak
[08:14] <polpak> william_: and what are your specs
[08:14] <polpak> JohnnyX: no
[08:14] <Sphearion> what kind of video card do you have?
[08:14] <polpak> JohnnyX: just making sure you don't have any questions/problems so far
[08:14] <JohnnyX> oh ok
[08:14] <william_> AMD 900 with 256 megs of ram 80 gig HD 8 meg on board video
[08:14] <ice228> how can i give myselft write rights?
[08:14] <DShepherd> what is the defualt keyboard layout for dapper?
[08:14] <JohnnyX> could we take this to a pm polpak
[08:14] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel ok, save the file and exit nano
[08:15] <polpak> we're almost done
[08:15] <JohnnyX> alright
[08:15] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel now sudo nano /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn
[08:16] <Sphearion> ahh johnny is setting up a laptop :)
[08:16] <JohnnyX> :)
[08:16] <polpak> JohnnyX: comment out the action= line
[08:16] <JohnnyX> k
[08:16] <polpak> and make a new line that says action=/ec/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:16] <polpak> err
[08:16] <polpak> /etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:17] <Sphearion> ITS OFFICIAL you can burn the 700meg iso to a DVD instead of a cd if you happen to be out of CD's (waste of a dvd though)!
[08:17] <ice228> can anyone please tell me who to give myself write right or find my root password?
[08:17] <william_> lol
[08:17] <JohnnyX> k
[08:17] <william_> scroll up a few lines :D ice228
[08:17] <Sphearion> ice228 boot linux single and change the root pass ;)
[08:17] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel so it should now read action=/etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh
[08:17] <Lopa> i've recived Ubuntu linux cd's and i just installed on my system but i don't know what is the root password
[08:17] <Ademan> is there a "more detailed" way to set change your theme? like specific theme preferences and such?
[08:17] <garryF> !tell ice228 about sudo
[08:18] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel save and exit this file
[08:18] <Lopa> ?
[08:18] <JohnnyX> k
[08:18] <Sphearion> hey polpak i might need your help in a bit :)
[08:18] <william_> Lopa scroll up a lttle,
[08:18] <Lopa> There is nothing for me up
[08:18] <william_> So is the sluggishness my videocard^
[08:18] <ice228> thank you :)
[08:18] <Sphearion> you seem to be the resident Linux on Laptop expert :)
[08:18] <william_> ?
[08:18] <JohnnyX> is that it polpak ?
[08:19] <garryF> Thank the bot. :)
[08:19] <william_> Can I totally strip down the graphics of the OS ^
[08:19] <Sphearion> probably william_
[08:19] <Sphearion> yeah change your /etc/inittab to 3
[08:19] <Sphearion> and poof no more Xorg
[08:19] <william_> whats Xorg?
[08:19] <JohnnyX> did you find this out off the site polpak or did you just figure it out
[08:19] <polpak> JohnnyX: need to restart the acpid daemon
[08:20] <Sphearion> the "windows" interface... all the graphics
[08:20] <JohnnyX> how do i do that
[08:20] <william_> oh cool one sec I will try this
[08:20] <Sphearion> william_
[08:20] <Lopa> it ask for root password when i try to configure something or install something
[08:20] <polpak> JohnnyX wastrel: sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart
[08:20] <ashzilla> when do I need the restricted modules for my kernel?
[08:20] <Lopa> i give there my user password it says sorry wrong password
[08:20] <polpak> JohnnyX: figured it out
[08:20] <garryF> The api that allows a gui to start. if you change to runlevel 3, youg et a command line interface.
[08:20] <Sphearion> hit ctrl+alt+f2
[08:20] <Sphearion> and login
[08:20] <Sphearion> thats what you will have
[08:20] <polpak> Sphearion: what's up?
[08:20] <JohnnyX> is there a site that you know that teaches you all the little tips and tricks like this
[08:20] <garryF> Hmmm, might have mistyped it.
[08:20] <william_> OH Geez amn I dont want a command line interface hahaha
[08:21] <Lopa> Guys please help me
[08:21] <JohnnyX> like the little things that no one ever asks
[08:21] <Sphearion> polpak im setting up ubuntu 6 on my laptop...
[08:21] <Sphearion> its still installing though
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: hrm.. not that I know of
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: just sorta get used to it all after a while
[08:21] <JohnnyX> i know nothing about the file hierachy of linux
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: and asking around helps
[08:21] <JohnnyX> like where everything goes and what not
[08:21] <Sphearion> william_ ctrl-alt-f7 to get back into the gui
[08:21] <JohnnyX> thanks for your help
[08:21] <JohnnyX> life saver
[08:21] <garryF> Yeah, or even know to ask. Such a site would be good. It probably exists somewhere.
[08:21] <polpak> JohnnyX: oh.. read the filesystem heirarchy
[08:21] <Lopa> i am doing apt-get install samba, it ask for root password
[08:22] <JohnnyX> on ubuntu.org?
[08:22] <Sphearion> JohnnyX there is alot of good info on the forums and here too :0
[08:22] <polpak> JohnnyX: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[08:22] <polpak> JohnnyX: anyway, the fix worked?
[08:22] <Sphearion> !tell Lopa about sudo
[08:22] <JohnnyX> yes thanks a bunch
[08:22] <garryF> when sudo asks for a password, enter your regular user password.
[08:22] <polpak> wastrel: you good also
[08:22] <polpak> wastrel: ?
[08:22] <wastrel> polpak:  no, i'm still getting a password prompt
[08:23] <JohnnyX> i think he left
[08:23] <JohnnyX> oh
[08:23] <polpak> wastrel: did you restart the acpi daemon?
[08:23] <wastrel> oui
[08:23] <Lopa> garryF, i am doing apt-get install samba, it ask for root password
[08:23] <ice228> still says i dont have permission to write to the folder : /
[08:23] <Sphearion> lopa you need to sudo passwd root and make a password for root :)
[08:23] <polpak> wastrel: can you pastebin both /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn and /etc/acpi/screenblank-nopass.sh ?
[08:24] <Madpilot> Sphearion, no he doesn't...
[08:24] <Lopa> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:24] <JohnnyX> i heard its pretty common for su not to accept the password but sudo does fine
[08:24] <Sjoerd-> how do i extract a tar.gz file via cli?
[08:24] <garryF> Lopa It should not be duioni that., wow, didn't know that Sphearion.
[08:24] <Lopa> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:24] <JohnnyX> i reinstalled and now im having the same thing
[08:24] <JohnnyX> i can use sudo but not su
[08:24] <garryF> Ack, I hate my keyboard.
[08:24] <wastrel> nvm it worked after i restarted again thx polpak
[08:24] <Sphearion> i tend to like my root password different from my user password
[08:24] <polpak> JohnnyX: that's because the root account is disabled
[08:24] <Sjoerd-> garryF: can i have it?
[08:24] <Sphearion> and I have used fedcore 4 for so long its habit to know this kind of stuff ;)
[08:24] <Lopa> should I do: "sudo passwd root"
[08:24] <Lopa> ?
[08:24] <garryF> Sjoerd hehe
[08:25] <polpak> Sphearion: I tend to like not having a root account active at all
[08:25] <Sphearion> no Lopa
[08:25] <polpak> Lopa: no
[08:25] <Lopa> why not?
[08:25] <Sphearion> polpak just rename it to something else ;)
[08:25] <polpak> Lopa: use sudo
[08:25] <Sphearion> then root is no longer root :)
[08:25] <JohnnyX> i cant remember where to enable it
[08:25] <Sphearion> Lopa type sudo apt-get install samba-server
[08:25] <Sphearion> then put in your user pass if asked for one
[08:25] <Sphearion> polpak how long have you been using linux?
[08:26] <polpak> Since 95 or so
[08:26] <JohnnyX> how do you enable root?
[08:26] <Sphearion> not bad..
[08:26] <DaveyJ> i'm back
[08:26] <garryF> Running in root is like working in a fireworks factory with candles as your lighting. One little boo boo and you are a crispy smoking piece of charcoal.
[08:26] <polpak> but I've only been using it exclusively for a year
[08:26] <Ademan> anyone know why my laptop can't power down? my understanding is it has something to do with acpi or apm
[08:26] <polpak> before that I dual booted
[08:26] <DaveyJ> okay so here's the prediciment that i left off with.....
[08:26] <Sphearion> garryF not true
[08:26] <wastrel> ls
[08:26] <JohnnyX> good analogy garryF
[08:26] <polpak> JohnnyX: there's no reason to do that and lots of reasons not to
[08:26] <Sphearion> garryF I have never messed up a system running as root
[08:26] <JohnnyX> polpak, its just in case
[08:26] <Sphearion> i have however messed up a system running as root when it was not intended.. :)
[08:26] <JohnnyX> so i know
[08:27] <DaveyJ> i'm running ubuntu off a partition on the same drive as the windows partition (which is about to be formatted to ext3 for storage) .. will that mess up my mbr>
[08:27] <polpak> JohnnyX: for the "just in case" moments you have a recovery mode
[08:27] <garryF> Sphearion I am just quoting commonly accepted advice.
[08:27] <polpak> JohnnyX: for all other moments you have sudo
[08:27] <nickrud> DaveyJ, no not at all
[08:27] <Sphearion> bah sudo su - works great for me :0
[08:27] <polpak> JohnnyX: and in the case of catestrophic failure you need to have a recovery/live cd
[08:27] <william_> well that sucked
[08:27] <ruxpin> DaveyJ: your mbr won't be touched by simply moving files
[08:27] <nickrud> DaveyJ, assuming your ubuntu boots
[08:27] <JohnnyX> i have five
[08:28] <polpak> Sphearion: sudo -i works just as well
[08:28] <DaveyJ> hda1 = win, hda2 = ubuntu
[08:28] <indy2> I am looking for a text to speech program from Ubuntu. Any suggestions? PS: KSayIt sucks balls.
[08:28] <Sphearion> nice.. forgot about that one ;)
[08:28] <william_> Ok so I just cold shut downed cause I coulnt leave the command promt
[08:28] <DaveyJ> so when i format hda1, there'll be no probleM?
[08:28] <Sjoerd-> I have a .deb file on my server, how do i use it to install the pacakage? Just running doesn't seem to work :) Any idea's?
[08:28] <garryF> say JohnnyX Thanks.
[08:28] <JohnnyX> well thanks for all your help polpak
[08:28] <Sphearion> william_ i told you ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back
[08:28] <JohnnyX> sleep now work tomorrow
[08:28] <ic56> DaveyJ: no. the Linux filesystem doesn't use teh first sector of its partition.  This is wasteful but ensures formatting can never cause an MBR to be overwritten.
[08:28] <polpak> william_: you can alwasy ctrl-alt-delete to restart w/o using the power off button
[08:28] <nickrud> DaveyJ, if your ubuntu boots, and you don't touch your ubuntu rooot, do whatever with windows, please ;)
[08:29] <william_> I must of been in command screen before I read that :D
[08:29] <DaveyJ> alright nice
[08:29] <william_> cool thanks :D
[08:29] <DaveyJ> i'm gunna go format that
[08:29] <DaveyJ> i just backed up everything i wanted to keep
[08:29] <william_> Is that the only way to strip down the graphics for ubunto?
[08:29] <Sphearion> ctrl-alt-f1->f6 are console f7-f12 can be gui (yes you can run multiple instances of the x client :))
[08:29] <polpak> william_: what kind of computer do you have again?
[08:30] <Sphearion> polpak I think he said a 900mhz with 128meg ram and 8meg onboard vid card
[08:30] <william_> amd 900 256 megs of ram 80 gig HD and 8 meg onboard
[08:30] <wastrel> william_:  you can use a lightweight windowmanager like sawfish, blackbox, icewm or wmaker
[08:30] <Sphearion> fxce
[08:30] <polpak> that should be plenty even for gnome
[08:30] <william_> Thanks for the help btw guys :D this is really great!
[08:30] <Sphearion> FXCE FTW
[08:31] <william_> SO I can download these?
[08:31] <polpak> william_: you can try just installing the x desktop packages
[08:31] <Sphearion> probably with apt :)
[08:31] <wastrel> polpak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16163   it didn't work :] 
[08:31] <polpak> william_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <garryF> Yeah, I've read that kde which is what xbuntu uses, uses less memory.
[08:32] <william_> will this erase my ubuntu?
[08:32] <Lopa> ny one know where i can get kdepim?
[08:32] <polpak> william_: no
[08:32] <Sphearion> garryF xbuntu uses fxce if im not mistaken
[08:32] <wastrel> xfce
[08:32] <Sphearion> err yeah
[08:32] <wastrel> fvwm
[08:32] <Sphearion> sorry i have lysdexia
[08:32] <avalost> william_: you can run virtually ANY wm you like with that machine, I have run KDE, Gnome and virtually every light-weight wm with a celeron 533mhtz and 256 of ram
[08:32] <william_> Cool :D
[08:33] <william_> Thanks for the advice!
[08:33] <garryF> OH I stand corrected I was thinking of Kbuntu. Thanks for seting me straight Sphearion
[08:33] <avalost> no worries
[08:33] <william_> So this GNOME thing, its the GUI part of my UNIX ?
[08:33] <wastrel> gnome is a gui
[08:33] <polpak> wastrel: that looks fine.. it should work if you restart the acpi daemons.. You may also need to restart acpi-support and apmd but it should really work with just acpid restarted
[08:33] <william_> (the file is dling right now)
[08:33] <william_> ok
[08:33] <avalost> Gnome is a window manager like KDE, fluxbox, icewm etc
[08:33] <Sphearion> william_ gnome is a window manager, that sits ontop of a xorg client that connects to the xorg server...... i think thats right
[08:33] <lightstar> gnome is a DE
[08:34] <garryF> DE?
[08:34] <Prodigy> wtf
[08:34] <william_> So If I wanted to switch back to the Ubuntu layout, is it easy? Or do I need to reinstall?
[08:34] <lightstar> desktop environment
[08:34] <avalost> a wm(window manager) is what renders and displays graphical windows to your desktop
[08:34] <Sphearion> i think he meant desktop environment. but thats not 100% true
[08:34] <Prodigy> kazile picko
[08:34] <Sjoerd-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP <- the package suggested for installation seems to be i386 while I need the AMD64 one, any idea where to get it?
[08:34] <avalost> william_: what do you mean 'ubuntu' layout?
[08:34] <polpak> william_: the GUI is made up of 3 parts. The X server (which is what actually makes stuff display on the screen) the Desktop Environment (used to manage the desktop, panels, etc) and the window manager (used to create boarders and titlebars and control window positioning, etc)
[08:34] <Prodigy> neces da budes mali paradajz a
[08:34] <avalost> text-based?
[08:34] <michael_> Does wine have a GUI?
[08:35] <garryF> Yes, you will get a menu wher you can choose your default be it gnome, xfce or Kde.
[08:35] <lightstar> Sphearion, eh? gnome is a full fledged DE rite? flux is a WM? or did i get it mixed up
[08:35] <michael_> if does how do u open it
[08:35] <Sphearion> startx :0 (first window manager (ctrl+alt+f7)     startx :1 (2nd window manager ctrl+alt+f8) and you can add more if you need ;)
[08:35] <Sphearion> gnome, kde,etc all are window managers
[08:35] <wastrel> lightstar:  that's right
[08:35] <polpak> Sphearion: no, their desktop environments
[08:35] <polpak> Sphearion: the default WM in gnome is metacity
[08:35] <michael_> how do u run wine?
[08:36] <Sphearion> no the place where my monitor sits is a desktop invironment
[08:36] <indy2> Ubuntu: any suggestions for a text to speech progrm?
[08:36] <william_> ok so I just downloaded this package, it installed (I think) now I just ctrl alt f8?
[08:36] <Sphearion> ohh forgot about that polpak good call'
[08:36] <Sphearion> i stand correct
[08:36] <lightstar> wastrel, thx..i knew it was sth like tat...aint thinking straight at the mo
[08:36] <Sphearion> corrected
[08:36] <polpak> Sphearion: but you can use other WM's in gnome
[08:36] <Sphearion> sawfish
[08:36] <Sphearion> umm
[08:36] <michael_> How do u run wine please help
[08:36] <Prodigy> kazil picko
[08:36] <william_> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <Prodigy> neces da budes mali paradajz
[08:36] <kazil> oi freak
[08:37] <Prodigy> a?
[08:37] <Prodigy> dodji paradajzu
[08:37] <polpak> michael_: wine /path/to/windows/program.exe
[08:37] <lightstar> for example openbox:P
[08:37] <polpak> william_: did you run that command yet?
[08:37] <william_> Yup!
[08:37] <michael_> e.g wine /program files/rockstar games/GTA3/gta3.exe like this???? in terminal?
[08:37] <Sphearion> does ubuntu have switchdesk?
[08:37] <william_> now it seems to be done
[08:38] <polpak> michael_: sure, but if you have spaces you need to quote or escape them
[08:38] <william_> do I restart my computer?
[08:38] <Sphearion> or can you change them at the login screen now? I forget about 5.04 was the last ubuntu I used
[08:38] <michael_> k but how would i nistall gta3 on ubuntu lol
[08:38] <Sphearion> william_ in linux you should very rarely restart your computer
[08:38] <polpak> michael_: and also I doubt you have program files in your root dir
[08:38] <lightstar> Sphearion, switchdesk? u mean switch to diff desktops?
[08:38] <kazil> frik ajm negde drugde
[08:38] <william_> Oh really? Why? I thought that was a good thing
[08:38] <polpak> michael_: wine /media/cdrom/gtainstall.exe or whatever
[08:38] <Prodigy> ?
[08:39] <michael_> k
[08:39] <Sphearion> lightstar no I mean like switchdesk it was a CLI / GUI app that allowed you to choose different window managers / D E 'S
[08:39] <ashzilla> When I try to remove gnome-games in Synaptic, why does it say it's removing ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <kazil> daj neki dobar kanal
[08:39] <Sphearion> http://www.transgaming.com/ << -- easiest way to make windows games work on linux
[08:39] <Prodigy> UBUNTU SUCKS ASS
[08:39] <polpak> william_: if you log out.. there will be a button on the login screen marked "session" if you click it you should be able to choose xfce intstead of gnome for your login
[08:39] <ashzilla> I imagine it's NOT a good idea to remove 'ubuntu-desktop'
[08:39] <polpak> !ops
[08:39] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:39] <william_> Awesome! Thanks!
[08:39] <Madpilot> Prodigy, go troll somewhere else
[08:40] <lightstar> Sphearion, ohh...good question actually..i end up editing my .xsession file to change it
[08:40] <Prodigy> MADPILOT SUCK BRICK
[08:40] <william_> Ubuntu rocks man, I don't know why anyone wouldnt like it!
[08:40] <Sphearion> william_ do you use alot of windows applications?
[08:40] <suspekt> whazap
[08:40] <Seveas> Madpilot, do those bricks taste any good? ;)
[08:40] <william_> I'm so impressed with this OS now man, it's changing everything for me
[08:40] <michael_> Ubuntu Ownz
[08:40] <Madpilot> Seveas, wouldn't know :)
[08:40] <william_> YUP hahaha
[08:40] <garryF> Frequent rebooting is a pactice used on Windows systems to counter the problems caused by windows memory fragmentation, and memomry leaks.
[08:40] <william_> I'm a producer :D
[08:40] <suspekt> anyone know how to get fortune to run everytime i launch a terminal
[08:40] <william_> I make a lot of music.
[08:40] <wastrel> ashzilla:  actually it's fine that's just a metapackage, no need to keep it
[08:41] <Sphearion> william_ linux will be good to you then :)
[08:41] <william_> BUt lately I have been using a lot of freeware
[08:41] <ashzilla> wastrel: good to know.
[08:41] <michael_> what u put for a space between program files?
[08:41] <michael_> in terminal
[08:41] <Sphearion> william_ now that your in linux, you will only need to reboot after updating the kernel and a few other misc changes to the core system :) thats always nice ;)
[08:41] <william_> I recently had a Viunyl released on an Australian Breakcore label called KILLBOT RECORDS, the whole thing was made with an open source prog called SKALE TRACKER
[08:41] <wastrel> suspekt:  add a line to .bashrc  that says "fortune"
[08:41] <Sphearion> hit tab
[08:41] <william_> its for Linux as well. THats why I switch.
[08:42] <polpak> michael_: you can either do  ~/.wine/c_drive/program\ files/etc Or you can do ~/.wine/c_drive/"program files"/etc
[08:42] <william_> I'm gonna log back in one sec guys :D
[08:42] <Sphearion> linux autocomplete works very well just type progr<tab> and it should finish it ;)
[08:42] <suspekt> linux autocomplete is a godsend
[08:43] <Sphearion> i love autocomplete
[08:43] <suspekt> cisco-os's do it to without it i couldn't do my job
[08:43] <polpak> that's bash actually. many other shells don't have it
[08:43] <Sphearion> my laptop is doing its first ubuntu 6 boot
[08:43] <Lopa> why every one guess i can find kdepim from kde.org
[08:43] <lightstar> bash autocompletes
[08:43] <Sphearion> yes its bash,
[08:43] <michael_> i installed it to
[08:43] <michael_> C:\Program Files\Starcraft\Starcraft.exe
[08:43] <michael_> how would i run that with wine
[08:44] <garryF> I saw kdePim in the repositories searching for kde
[08:44] <kazil> can i dl progz for ubuntu on win, then to copy it to ubuntu and then install it? sorry for bad english
[08:44] <Lopa> can some one give me exact link pls?
[08:44] <william_> Hey!
[08:44] <william_> Wow this is really cool!
[08:44] <something15525> hey all
[08:44] <polpak> there's also a more glitzy shell called fish that is kinda neat
[08:44] <polpak> http://roo.no-ip.org/fish/
[08:45] <william_> Are there any other GNOMES I can try out ?
[08:45] <polpak> william_: you're not using gnome anymore
[08:45] <william_> I'm not??
[08:45] <polpak> william_:  you are using xfce
[08:45] <william_> huh?
[08:45] <william_> lol
[08:45] <suspekt> wastrel, what kind of entry am i supposed to put in here
[08:45] <polpak> william_: it's a different thing
[08:45] <Sphearion> ohh fish does syntax highlighting AWESOME
[08:45] <polpak> william_: you can try out kde if you like
[08:45] <acts> guys i need help
[08:45] <wastrel> suspekt in .bashrc just a new line at the end with the word fortune on it
[08:45] <william_> yeah man, this is still sluggish
[08:46] <william_> whats the command line agian?
[08:46] <rixth> Woo! Bug filing time.
[08:46] <Sphearion> ctrl+alt+f1 --- gui is ctrl+alt+f7
[08:46] <suspekt> wastrel thats all? man thats easy! i was scared i would have to recompile the term with fortune in it or some nonsense. I miss my fortune from slack
[08:46] <polpak> william_: kde won't be faster than xfce
[08:47] <wastrel> mmm .bashrc ;] 
[08:47] <Sphearion> xfce is about as fast as they get
[08:47] <suspekt> i thought kde was the slowest one
[08:47] <Sphearion> try fluxbox or blackbox
[08:47] <acts> When I do -GCC and try to compile something.. it says stdio.h not found.. I installed libc6.. what elsed do i need to install?
[08:47] <Sphearion> those might be abit faster (not much)
[08:47] <wastrel> twm
[08:47] <Sphearion> twm would be fast
[08:47] <suspekt> sweet! thanks Wast
[08:47] <Madpilot> acts, did you install build-essential? it'll pull down all the dev tools
[08:47] <polpak> william_: I suspect that your speed issues aren't related to the wm/de, and more related to your video card
[08:47] <lightstar> Sphearion, fluxbox allows ALOT of customization..if ur in2 that sort of thing..luv the unlimited keybind options
[08:47] <dooglus> william_: try "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" - that's about as un-sluggish as you can get
[08:48] <kazil> can i dl progz for ubuntu on win, then to copy it to ubuntu and then install it? sorry for bad english
[08:48] <polpak> william_: what resolution are you running?
[08:48] <suspekt> now another question,  can some one tell me how to make my 'ThinkPad' button launch bash?
[08:48] <dooglus> kazil: yes.  use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to do that
[08:49] <polpak> Sphearion: fish is in the repos if you wanted to test drive it ;p
[08:49] <kazil> dooglus: thx
[08:49] <suspekt> less i have to use this crappy touchpad or erraser button the better
[08:49] <tonyyaru1so> suspekt: Yes - the ThinkWiki has notes on that (and everything under the sun - good resource)
[08:49] <Sphearion> polpak I downloaded the wrong iso the first time and installed, adn the 2nd dvd I wasted was the live cd... damnit
[08:49] <suspekt> ThinkWiki, check
[08:49] <dooglus> kazil: that'll get you .deb files.  you should "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" to install file.deb
[08:49] <garryF> kazil: It usually works for me, but you must know how to mount your windows drive and copy the files. Iv'e found it usually works.
[08:49] <wastrel> what thinkpad button?
[08:49] <suspekt> so didn't know about this channel... this is awsome.
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Mine's called "Access IBM"
[08:50] <wastrel> the access ibm button?
[08:50] <suspekt> uh the little blue button that comes on a lot of IBMs
[08:50] <wastrel> yeah
[08:50] <william_> my GF just walked in, YOUR CHATTING I KNEW IT
[08:50] <william_> gotta run hehehe
[08:50] <william_> Thanks for the help!
[08:50] <wastrel> i suppose that could be used for something...
[08:50] <suspekt> yeah mine says ThinkPad.     yeah instead of it being usless i am gunna make it a 'launchbash'
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Mine opens the system documentation.
[08:50] <kazil> garryf: my ubuntu is on another machine so i thought to copy it to usb, then copy it to ubuntu
[08:51] <rixth> When reporting a bug in Malone, can I use <pre> tags?
[08:51] <suspekt> i used gnome to make it open home but thats not all that useful
[08:51] <wastrel> documentation! shame on you
[08:51] <Schalken> Hammertime!
[08:51] <rixth> Cause I need something in monospace font
[08:51] <Schalken> (whoops wrong chat window)
[08:51] <garryF> kazil That has worked fine for me doing that way. I'd copy it to a memstick and then from the memstick to some place and run install from there.
[08:52] <Madpilot> rixth, try it, but I don't think Malone takes any formatting
[08:52] <suspekt> hey, tonyyarulso, awsome link
[08:52] <kazil> garryF: whats the procedure to install progz? i`m kinda noob :/
[08:52] <Sphearion> wonder if my wireless will work... hmm
[08:52] <PuGz> hey guys. i have a bunch of wmv files that i can play with mplayer. what is the easiest way for me to turn these into a dvd with one chapter/scene per video? any programs that do this easily for me?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> suspekt: One of these days I'm going to try the theft alarm script ;)  Lots of cool stuff though, yeah.
[08:53] <Sphearion> PuGz check the forums
[08:53] <garryF> kazil There is usually a readme on the site, or that comes with the program that tells yo how.
[08:53] <kazil> thx
[08:53] <PuGz> spacey, okidoki... any off the top of your head?
[08:53] <Sphearion> nope i just remember seeing a thread about that there
[08:54] <garryF> kazil Welcome.
[08:54] <harry> how do you uninstall frostwire.AnyOS on ubuntu. the command "sudo apt-get remove frostwire" doesnt work
[08:54] <suspekt> it would be awsome if this Wiki can tell me how to make one of my Dimm slots come back to life
[08:54] <PuGz> Sphearion, cool... i will look for it
[08:54] <garryF> Never heard of frostwire. Iheard of firewire.
[08:55] <harry> garryF: whats firewire also never heard of it too
[08:55] <wastrel> harry:  how did you install it?
[08:55] <garryF> harry Me neither.
[08:55] <harry> wastrel: i followed the Installation for AnyOS.zip. i'll give you the link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:55] <polpak> !info frostwire
[08:55] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in dapper
[08:56] <harry> garryF: does firewire used for downloading music, video, and etc???
[08:56] <polpak> harry: no, it's a connection type for drives
[08:56] <harry> ubotu: how do i uninstall frostwire?
[08:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about how do i uninstall frostwire?
[08:57] <garryF> Its a protocol for communciating with external hard drives, It's faster than usb.
[08:57] <harry> polpak: so what do you mean?? could i get rid of it..?
[08:57] <Madpilot> harry, ubotu is a bot
[08:57] <polpak> harry:  did you install it with sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb
[08:57] <harry> Madpilot: i know. just thought he wud answer the ???
[08:57] <garryF> I misread the tells to me. Mea Culpa
[08:57] <Madpilot> !frostwire
[08:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostwire
[08:57] <harry> polpak: no
[08:57] <wastrel> he used the anyos.zip instructions. manual :] 
[08:58] <harry> polpak: i followed the Installation for AnyOS.zip. i'll give you the link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:58] <polpak> harry: that's unfortunate
[08:58] <garryF> Might try package manager and search for frostwire, or google it.
[08:58] <harry> polpak: the reason why i want to get rid of it its because i want to reinstall it using the debian package...
[08:58] <dooglus> harry: "sudo dpkg -r Frostwire" to remove it
[08:59] <polpak> harry: if you installed it from those instructions you can remove it by simply sudo rm -rf /opt/FrostWire && sudo rm /usr/share/applications/FrostWire.desktop && sudo rm /usr/bin/runFrostWire.sh
[08:59] <harry> polpak: i choosed to install because i coudlnt use frostwire.deb before
[08:59] <kazil> is: ubuntu desktop guide any good? not to ask all the time some stupid thingz?
[09:00] <polpak> !ubuntuguide
[09:00] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:00] <leojay> hello, everyone. i want to copy files from one directory to another, but i don't know how to get the result of copy process.
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> polpak: That's not what he means.
[09:00] <harry> polpak: that was quick...
[09:00] <dooglus> leojay: "cp -r" will copy recursively.  $? will hold the exit status after it's finished
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> polpak: the Ubuntu Desktop Guide is from the DocTeam and help.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <didi> ?
[09:01] <garryF> Its been a trend that urls and howtos are the last things to get updated, with the wikis anyone can ammend far as I know so it can mean more up to date info, or more incorrect info.
[09:01] <Madpilot> kazil, the Desktop guide is pretty good - but I'm baised, I helped write bits of it :)
[09:01] <wastrel> leojay:  the return value of cp?
[09:01] <garryF> Nice Mad. :)\
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> kazil: I just ordered it in print form today, so it's worth $6 to me.
[09:01] <dooglus> wastrel: I guess he means the exit status
[09:02] <wastrel> ok i'm down with tha
[09:02] <wastrel> t
[09:02] <kazil> i`ve got it from help.ubuntu.com polpak
[09:02] <polpak> harry: so you removed it?
[09:02] <polpak> kazil: ok
[09:02] <Blaze^^> hello, i had only ubuntu on the laptop and wanted to install windows xp on my free partition
[09:02] <Blaze^^> but now i lost my ubuntu
[09:02] <kazil> madpilot: than it`s no good :P
[09:02] <polpak> !grub
[09:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[09:02] <Blaze^^> i mean it won't boot, i'm with the livecd now,
[09:02] <harry> polpak: after i pressed enter, it just removed just like that
[09:03] <suspekt> wow... this looks complicated just to make a button do somthing
[09:03] <garryF> I've noted that it easier to read and comprehend a printed guide than one on the monitor. Its as if the refresh rate of the monitor interferes with my comprehension. That is just a guess, but I've noted a lot of users experience the same phenomenon.
[09:03] <hangfire> Blaze you have to install XP first
[09:03] <wastrel> heh.  special button
[09:04] <polpak> hangfire: nah. you just have to fix grub
[09:04] <harry> polpak: another question please with regards to klamav??
[09:04] <Blaze^^> 10x polpak :)
[09:04] <Blaze^^> brb
[09:04] <polpak> harry: I don't use it
[09:05] <harry> polpak: so what do you use for an anti virus free version
[09:05] <polpak> harry: I don't use anything. I just don't get virii
[09:05] <ic56> this is really annoying.  ubotu seems to have forgotten all its stored text and some of its commands too!
[09:05] <Sphearion> so python is the preferred programming language of ubuntu?
[09:05] <harry> polpak: how are you so sure about that??
[09:06] <polpak> Sphearion: python is used for many things. But nothing is really preferred. Most packages on a linux computer are probably written in C actually
[09:06] <Madpilot> harry, there really aren't any Linux viruses out in the wild
[09:06] <suspekt> it says i have to manipulate tpbrc is that a package?
[09:06] <Sphearion> harry its proven that there are only about 3 viruses for linux
[09:06] <rockstar101> I just installed 6.06, but the precompiled kernel hangs at startup.  I copied another kernel I compiled earlier, but I would like to build them from this installation.  Is there a guide to what packages I need to compile a kernel from source?
[09:06] <Sphearion> and you have to be root or sudo run them all (AFAIK) to catch them
[09:06] <harry> Sphearion: and what is that???
[09:06] <harry> Sphearion: is that sophisticated???
[09:06] <harry> Sphearion: is  it that sophisticated???
[09:06] <Flannel> rockstar101: you can get the current source from the repositories.
[09:06] <Sphearion> harry your not understanding me
[09:06] <dooglus> why isn't xubuntu available from http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ ?  kubuntu and edubuntu both are...
[09:07] <Sphearion> LINUX users dont get viruses (9.8 times out of 10)
[09:07] <garryF> There is less infamy attached to writing a linux virus as few use it compared to windows viruses that can cause a big hoopla if it infects a lot of windows machines. More chaos, more newsworthy, more power to cause havoc.
[09:07] <suspekt> how do you know if you have a linux virus?
[09:07] <suspekt> I know what to look for on a windows machine
[09:07] <ic56> !justask
[09:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:07] <polpak> Sphearion: I'd imagine it's closer to 9.9999 times out of 10
[09:07] <harry> Sphearion: so you mean what klamav detected on my computer are not viruses??? and the definitions that it shows doesnt affect linux?
[09:07] <ic56> !listkeys windows
[09:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about listkeys windows
[09:08] <ic56> !help
[09:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:08] <Flannel> dooglus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[09:08] <rockstar101> Flannel: yeah.. I grabbed them using synaptic.  Problem is, there is nothing pre-installed for development.  It would be nice to know a list of packages I need to do this.
[09:08] <Madpilot> suspekt, if you're running Ubuntu, and you haven't done anything dumb WRT the basic setup, you don't have a virus. :)
[09:08] <bimberi> ic56: new bot
[09:08] <Flannel> rockstar101: build-essential
[09:08] <Sphearion> harry depends were you using clam in linux or windows
[09:08] <dooglus> suspekt: we pretend there's no such thing as malware for linux
[09:08] <ic56> bimberi: yeah, well, it sucks!
[09:08] <rockstar101> Flannel: Ah.. I'll try that
[09:08] <Sphearion> and if you were using it in windows then no it does not effect you in linux
[09:08] <polpak> dooglus: well there are worms certainly
[09:08] <Sphearion> and rootkits
[09:09] <suspekt> yeah i doubt a 100 percent my linux box has any viruses.   I am the kind of windows user that dosn't get virii
[09:09] <harry> Sphearion: linux i suppose. ubuntu dapper drake to be exact for the system i'm currently using
[09:09] <kazil> do i have to mount the win drive every time when ubuntu loads up or is there any way to do it just once?
[09:09] <suspekt> but for future teching situations, what would one look for?
[09:09] <wastrel> !mountwindows
[09:09] <Sphearion> suspekt i have leared there are basically 2 ways in windows to get virii, porn sites and illegal download sites ...
[09:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about mountwindows
[09:09] <dooglus> polpak: and the default setup involves running firefox - which regularly has patches for remote exploits, so there are almost certainly lots of unpatched holes still available for the malware to get in through
[09:09] <rockstar101> Flannel: Thank you very much. That looks like just what I need.
[09:09] <polpak> suspekt: I ran windows for 10 years and never had any anti-virus etc. After that time I installed one and it said I had no viruses
[09:09] <cwillu> quick question:  I'm trying to add an smb mount in fstab that can be written to by users;  I can't seem to modify the permissions on the folder though;  they get overwritten as soon as I mount, and don't apply at all if I try it while mounted (including applying them to the '.' entry in the mount)
[09:09] <wastrel> well bleh
[09:09] <suspekt> sphearion, i go to both and my windows box runs clean as a wissle
[09:10] <Sphearion> suspekt nice, I goto both as well and my windows box is clean ;)
[09:10] <cwillu> I need the group to have permissions (the group itself is right, but not the group permissions on the mount)
[09:10] <polpak> suspekt: course now I don't use windows anymore
[09:10] <Sphearion> but linux virii and malware are unheard of
[09:10] <suspekt> can I get voice permission to msg people?
[09:10] <Sphearion> well not completely unheard of. but lesser heard of
[09:10] <harry> wastrel: ask ic56 with regards to that. he's the one who helped me with it
[09:10] <polpak> suspekt: you need to register to msg ppl
[09:10] <garryF> They have discovered a simple device to end all symptoms of stutterying. A device records the voice of the stutter, replays it back with a slight delay and slighty higher pitch and the stutterer hears it and it stops the stuttering. It would be neat to write a pda program in linux or whatever, that could do the same.
[09:11] <fedex> hi!
[09:11] <wastrel> that's interesting
[09:11] <garryF> If only it fixed my stupid clumsy fingers. hehe
[09:11] <suspekt> i still use windows for the directx support
[09:11] <ic56> wastrel: ubotu has forgotten the factoid about fixing windows and mbr.
[09:11] <wastrel> that was a good factoid
[09:12] <polpak> suspekt: meh.. I got tired of having the same games recycled with new paint and sold back to me over and over again
[09:12] <fedex> i have a, uhm, "little" problem...upgraded to dapper the change-repos-name way...and is officialy unbootable..my fault!
[09:12] <IndianGiver> can someone help me with .avi playback?
[09:12] <garryF> It was very interesting. they took the worlds worst stutterer, and turned on the simple device and his stutterring vanished immediately. A linux untility written to do the same on a pda would be a real attention getter for Linux.
[09:12] <IndianGiver> or how to convert it to mpeg
[09:12] <polpak> !restricted
[09:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[09:12] <polpak> IndianGiver: ^^
[09:12] <suspekt> I agree polpak. thats why I only buy the ones worth buying
[09:13] <polpak> suspekt: which are?
[09:13] <fedex> now i am using a live gnu/linx, and want to update, dloaded both desktop and alt dapper
[09:13] <polpak> suspekt: the only ones I find worth buying are the ones that support my OS
[09:13] <ic56> wastrel: I could replenish ubotu, at least with the factoids that I had created myself but it won't let me.  It says I'm not identified to svs -- though I am.  ubotu is *broken*!
[09:13] <Sphearion> polpak, suspekt i would like to see that short list as well
[09:13] <fedex> i need NOT to delete some folders in my /home, is that possible?? install and not erase from within?
[09:13] <suspekt> I actually bought civ4 (multiplayer) and... uh... thre was one other one
[09:14] <cef> Can someone confirm if WPA with the Atheros/Madwifi drivers is broken in Dapper?
[09:14] <IndianGiver> polpak, it doesnt say anything about avi files
[09:14] <harry> Sphearion: so you mean the viruses that klamav detected are not really viruses. they are just defined virus that only affect other system like windows for example
[09:14] <polpak> IndianGiver: read the restricted formats wiki
[09:14] <suspekt> oh yeah. WoW.   Yeah yeah i know wine is supposed to be able to play it but its yet to work right for me
[09:14] <polpak> IndianGiver: it tells how to install codecs etc
[09:14] <Sphearion> harry do you have windows installed on the computer?
[09:14] <harry> Sphearion: not anymore
[09:14] <fedex> or no way?
[09:15] <Sphearion> does clamav see virii on your computer before or after you took windows off?
[09:15] <IndianGiver> i am polpak
[09:15] <avalost> this is going to take forever (which is why I rarely do it)
[09:15] <garryF> Gnight alll. Cheers.
[09:15] <Sphearion> later garry
[09:15] <harry> Sphearion: windows is completly removed before i run klamav
[09:15] <wastrel> fedex:  i assume /home isn't a separate partition?
[09:15] <Sphearion> what viruses did clamav see?
[09:16] <polpak> fedex: I tend to have /home on it's own partition. When I install new versions or different distros I just mv my home folder to something like /home/tmp, then install the new distribution and don't reformat the home partition.. Then mv my files back into the new home directory
[09:16] <fedex> thanks wastrel, no, not it is
[09:16] <cwillu> documented behaviour for fstab is that the mounts will remember their permissions;  i.e., chmod of the '.' in a smb mount will stick across remounts, and is preferred to added dmask=777,fmask=777 entries in fstab.  Anybody know if ubuntu broke/changed this?
[09:16] <fedex> oh polpak i now! now....but previously I erased, this time  am goinf to install in a dif partition.
[09:17] <harry> Sphearion: i dont remember it. i shutted down klamav because i cant quarantine the detected viruses.
[09:17] <fedex> going, sorry.
[09:17] <wastrel> fedex tar up /home and put it somewhere
[09:17] <Sphearion> harry run it again
[09:17] <harry> Sphearion: well they are something like Gzip...?????
[09:17] <Sphearion> how long ago did you install linux?
[09:17] <Flashq009> Is the ubuntu.com website down or is it just me?
[09:17] <Sphearion> and did you format your whole drive?
[09:17] <Amaranth> works here
[09:17] <polpak> Sphearion: games I play in linux are Puzzle Pirates, Go, Bang Howdy, Savage, Neverwinter Nights, UT2004, Vendetta Online, Tribal Trouble, Warcraft 3, Starcraft, and Wesnoth
[09:17] <Amaranth> Flashq009: ^
[09:18] <goudkov> is there something like a /dev/null directory?
[09:18] <cwillu> Flashq009: can you ping it?
[09:18] <fedex> wastrel its 20 gigs of stuff i do need, and backing it up via CD would take forever....where is that "safe" somewhere?.
[09:18] <Sphearion> nice polpak you using transgaming cedega?
[09:18] <Flashq009> no ping response
[09:18] <suspekt> woo! wesnoth!
[09:18] <harry> Sphearion: well it wud take 8 min just to detect 1, and 3 more hours to detect the 47 rest
[09:18] <polpak> Sphearion: no, just wine
[09:18] <compengi> someohter
[09:18] <Sphearion> really
[09:18] <ashzilla> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:18] <Sphearion> ill keep that in mind :0
[09:18] <compengi> hi
[09:18] <ashzilla> Can someone tell me if this would work in Dapper
[09:18] <harry> Sphearion just this may
[09:18] <Flashq009> now it is responding
[09:18] <cef> Flashq009: they don't accept pings
[09:18] <Flashq009> it was not a few seconds ago
[09:18] <suspekt> i think that whole gaming issue will fade real soon with the launch of Vista
[09:18] <cwillu> oops
[09:18] <polpak> Sphearion: all those games are native except the blizzard ones (warcraft and starcraft)
[09:18] <compengi> from where can i download xchat
[09:18] <Sphearion> so ubuntu has been on there for a bit harry
[09:19] <cwillu> ??
[09:19] <harry> Sphearion: i did format it. i choosed erase entire disk
[09:19] <wastrel> fedex:  hmm :]   scp it to another system via ethernet ?
[09:19] <cef> Flashq009: never mind, they do now it seems
[09:19] <cwillu> yes, ubuntu.com does accept pings
[09:19] <polpak> Sphearion: so most of them don't use wine
[09:19] <harry> Sphearion: yep
[09:19] <Sphearion> hmm polpak can you help harry, he thinks he has virii since may
[09:19] <Sphearion> NWN is linux native now?
[09:19] <suspekt> apperently direct X10 will only work in vista and since i doubt Nvidia and Ati will want to be locked into that environment they will stop using directx   unless i have no clue what i am tlaking about which is possible
[09:19] <ashzilla> Can someone tell me if this would still affect my fonts in dapper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:19] <polpak> Sphearion: it has been for a long time
[09:19] <fedex> wastrel so there is no other trick? I mean...nor even the alternative .iso I burned has some feature to do this?
[09:19] <harry> Sphearion: no not since may. i just scanned this week..
[09:19] <polpak> Sphearion: you just have to DL the linux client
[09:20] <Sphearion> sweet
[09:20] <Sphearion> harry run the scan again and give me some exact names
[09:20] <fedex> its mostly mp3, so taring wont reduce that much
[09:20] <Flashq009> I want to install opera 9 browser on my ubuntu, how do I do it?
[09:20] <Sphearion> this sucks, my wireless dont work... :(
[09:20] <cef> suspekt: they'll just supply more than one set of drivers
[09:20] <polpak> !opera
[09:20] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[09:20] <compengi> where can i download xchat?
[09:20] <IndianGiver> how would i convert an .avi file to .mpeg?
[09:20] <harry> polpak: can wine install warcraft 3 frozen throne??
[09:20] <polpak> !info xchat
[09:20] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[09:20] <wastrel> fedex:  you could try to shrink your partition with gparted and then install into the new unpartitioned space
[09:20] <polpak> harry: yes
[09:21] <compengi> from where
[09:21] <Madpilot> compengi, it's in Ubuntu's repos - in Universe - use Synaptic or Add/Remove Apps to install it
[09:21] <wastrel> fedex:  there's no easy method :] 
[09:21] <polpak> compengi: the universe repository
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !tell compengi about repos
[09:21] <fedex> wastrel i know, going the difficult one!!!!
[09:21] <ashzilla> Can someone tell me if this would still affect my fonts in dapper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:21] <harry> polpak: so are familliar with DotA allstars??
[09:21] <polpak> harry: yes
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !repos > compengi
[09:21] <thoreauputic> bah
[09:21] <polpak> harry: though I like ToB better. to bad the dev was a prick
[09:21] <harry> polpak: do you play that one??
[09:22] <harry> polpak: whats ToB??
[09:22] <cef> So is WPA with the Atheros/Madwifi drivers is broken in Dapper? Can someone confim this behaviour? I know it used to be broken in Dapper's betas.
[09:22] <fedex> wastrel gparted would help?? i am going to try that.... but you mean I install over the unpartitioned space and it wont erase the whole disk?
[09:22] <suspekt> anyone can tell me if resizing NTFS sys drives to make room for Ubuntu is safe? as in is there good chance of me loosing my windows part?
[09:22] <polpak> harry: Tides of Blood. It's much more skill based. DoTA is all about memorizing the item combos etc
[09:22] <Seveas> cef, these words come to you via wpa+madwifi, so it's definitely not broken for me
[09:22] <Seveas> suspekt, it's safe
[09:23] <harry> polpak: can you give me a link to see it
[09:23] <wastrel> fedex:  you can tell the installer to ignore existing partitions , if there is free space or a free partition to install in
[09:23] <polpak> harry: TOB is more about teamwork and using your hero's strengths and weaknesses
[09:23] <ic56> Seveas: why does ubotu think I'm not resgistered?
[09:23] <faisal_d> morning guys
[09:23] <Seveas> %list users
[09:23] <Seveas> %user list
[09:23] <ubotu> Amaranth, apokryphos, bimberi, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, jenda, Jowi, jrib, LjL, Madpilot, nalioth, ompaul, Seveas, and thoreauputic
[09:23] <cef> Seveas: ok, that's good. just it's still listed on the wiki, but I couldn't get it to work here. hrm. oh well.. will tackle the actual problem tomorrow
[09:23] <ashzilla> Seveas: would this effect my fonts in dapper? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:23] <suspekt> how does that work with windows clusterpucking harddrives?  I asume i should do a defragment before i try?
[09:23] <C_REATiVE_> re
[09:23] <Seveas> ic56, because you aren't 
[09:23] <faisal_d> how do you configure grub in dapper?
[09:23] <ic56> Seveas: /whois me -- you'll see that I am
[09:24] <Hobbsee> ic56: not with the bot
[09:24] <fedex> wastrel: which installer, desktop or alternative dapper? and which "method"...sorry to bother
[09:24] <cef> Seveas: are you using network-manager-gnome (the applet) to control stuff?
[09:24] <IndianGiver> is it even possible to convert avi to mpeg?
[09:24] <ic56> Bobbsee: I have to register with ubotu?
[09:24] <IndianGiver> or wmv
[09:24] <Daniel0> hey, i cant get my internet connection (wireless) to work, can somebody help me?
[09:24] <Seveas> ic56, ubotu doesn't look at chanserv
[09:24] <mandie26> hello
[09:24] <ic56> Hobbsee: I have to register with ubotu?
[09:24] <Seveas> cef, no, I'm using raw wpasupplicant
[09:24] <suspekt> how do i register with ubotu?
[09:24] <suspekt> !register
[09:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:24] <IndianGiver> w32codecs play .avi files right?
[09:24] <Sphearion> is there a way to apt-get the newest kernel 2.6.17
[09:24] <cef> IndianGiver: yes to both, but I wouldn't bother converting to wmv.. it's crap
[09:25] <Hobbsee> Sphearion: no
[09:25] <Sphearion> grr
[09:25] <ashzilla> Can someone PLEASE tell if the following post would effect my fonts!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:25] <IndianGiver> how would i convert it to mpeg cef
[09:25] <wastrel> fedex:  either one i think - just make sure you're careful during the partitioning part of the installer - keepin mind i've only installed dapper once :] 
[09:25] <Seveas> ubotu, tell suspekt about yourself
[09:25] <cef> Seveas: ahh ok.. hrmm.. might give it a shot tomorrow
[09:25] <fedex> wastrel: after i did the upgrade, I fucked the X on breezy...
[09:25] <IndianGiver> i have vampire hunter d bloodlust but its avi
[09:25] <mandie26> i have seen in some screenshot, that there is someway to monitorize cpu, networks, and so on in desktop, in background, just as plain text, what program is that?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> !msg
[09:25] <ubotu> Please ask your messages in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[09:25] <fedex> /register
[09:26] <polpak> harry: http://rapidshare.de/files/14032937/ToBNFinal.w3x.html
[09:26] <faisal_d> Is there a way to configure grub in dapper? i can't find a /etc/grub/grub.conf file
[09:26] <harry> polpak: thanks
[09:26] <IndianGiver> do you know how cef ?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> !grub > faisal_d
[09:26] <grndslm> faisal_d.../boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:26] <thoreauputic> compengi: please read ubotu's message about /msg above
[09:26] <mandie26> faisal_d, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:26] <ashzilla> Can someone PLEASE tell if the following post would effect my fonts!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:27] <wastrel> fedex:  good luck, i have to go
[09:27] <neutrinomass> mandie26: Probably gdesklets...
[09:27] <fedex> wastrel thanx!!!!
[09:27] <mindspit> goodmorning from greece!
[09:27] <thoreauputic> ashzilla: please stop repeating every minute
[09:27] <mandie26> neutrinomass, i should be right..
[09:28] <mandie26> neutrinomass, but it hought maybe just one single app would do the trick
[09:28] <ashzilla> thoreauputic: I'll continue to, until someone new who is browsing the chat actually wishes to help. Thanks, though.
[09:28] <IndianGiver> i installed w32codecs but i still cant play avi
[09:28] <suspekt> woot! registered!
[09:28] <IndianGiver> can someone help me out
[09:28] <mandie26> neutrinomass, i seen it so many times.. is all text, and a lot
[09:28] <neutrinomass> mandie26: Well install gdesklets and put a gdesklet on your desktop ... what's the problem ? :)
[09:28] <suspekt> IndianGiver, you have to use totem-zine
[09:28] <suspekt> xine
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ashzilla: in that case you will be gagged, sorry
[09:28] <IndianGiver> i tried xine
[09:28] <IndianGiver> it plays sound but not video
[09:28] <ashzilla> thoreauputic: Okay.
[09:28] <neutrinomass> mandie26: Yes. A gdesklet shows only text (and an icon or two )
[09:29] <ashzilla> Can someone PLEASE tell if the following post would effect my fonts!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[09:29] <mandie26> neutrinomass, i haven't found that desklet
[09:29] <grndslm> anybody know of a decent socket a motherboard that i should replace my cheapo generic one with??
[09:29] <faisal_d> hobbsee, grndslm, mandie26: thanx guys
[09:29] <IndianGiver> do you know what to do suspekt
[09:29] <mandie26> neutrinomass, do u know if gdesklets-data has been fixed?
[09:30] <suspekt> Automatix = your thoughts?
[09:30] <neutrinomass> mandie26: I don't know what the problem was, but I used gdesklets a couple of days ago ...
[09:30] <mandie26> neutrinomass, ok, it used to be a problem of dependencies when u tried installing -data :) thx anyway
[09:30] <Madpilot> suspekt, automatix = not a good idea
[09:30] <polpak> IndianGiver: if you install the w32codecs, and install totem-xine you should be able to play avi files
[09:31] <polpak> !automatics
[09:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about automatics
[09:31] <polpak> !automatic
[09:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about automatic
[09:31] <polpak> !automatix
[09:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[09:31] <neutrinomass> mandie26: Didn't have such problems.... they must have fixed it...
[09:31] <polpak> !easyubuntu
[09:31] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:31] <MuLLeR> hiya ..... could someone help me with postfix+courier+sasl? coz i can now recieve the emails, but when i send ... it says SASL no secret in database, and authentication failed ...
[09:31] <IndianGiver> they are installed polpak
[09:32] <thoreauputic> !repeat
[09:32] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:32] <suspekt> it didn't break my system, just curious what people thought. seemed to do ok installing stuff but it sucks at configuring things
[09:32] <IndianGiver> it keeps giving me MS WMV 8 (win32) not handled
[09:33] <IndianGiver> but i just installed w32codecs
[09:33] <suspekt> IndianGiver i believe this is what you need
[09:33] <suspekt> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28xine-ui.29
[09:33] <ashzilla> thoreauputic: I'm leaving the channel, now. Perhaps later others will feel like representing what "ubuntu" stands for.
[09:33] <johnsandman> where can i see if the kernel use both processors?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> !patience
[09:33] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:34] <zzzen> howdy y'all. anyone here can help me with a breezy->6.06 upgrade gone bad?
[09:34] <neutrinomass> johnsandman: cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[09:35] <hoittr> Excuse me, but I have either (A. Found a bug in Dapper) or (B. Am a complete idiot)... When I use the remote desktop tool after changing my default resolution from 1024x768 to 1600x1200 and re-run the remote desktop tool. The vncserver still uses a resolution of 1024x768, and I can not remotely access all of my screen. 1. How can I fix this. 2. If it IS a bug, how do I report it?
[09:35] <johnsandman> ok thanks
[09:36] <linda> typ4 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY linda2
[09:36] <neutrinomass> hoittr: 2. http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug :) I have no idea about your first question though ...
[09:36] <Madpilot> hoittr, not how to fix your bog, but http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <linda> type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY test
[09:36] <Madpilot> linda, you're going to have to change your password now, I think...
[09:37] <linda> type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY test
[09:37] <neutrinomass> linda: please stop ...
[09:38] <IndianGiver> its still not working suspekt
[09:39] <IndianGiver> how do i convert it to mpeg?
[09:39] <kazil> !mount
[09:39] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:39] <hoittr> Ok, Bug #19284 explains the problem in an opposite way. The responce given was it is a minor bug, however, that was in responce to making the resolution SMALLER.. When the resolution is made larger, you cannot access the rest of the screen to even reset the vncviewer (Even though the problem is with vncviewer and the remote desktop tool not restarting the server on changes)
[09:40] <Madpilot> hoittr, file a new bug, and give a link to #19284 in your explanation
[09:40] <hoittr> So (I'm new to linux, and open support / bug reporting) should I open a new bug report. Or add to the existing one even though it is not exactly the same problem (Extremely similar)
[09:40] <bigfoot1> hi, how do i install fuse (c.f. http://mauricecodik.com/projects/ofs/)
[09:40] <bigfoot1> L
[09:40] <bigfoot1> ?
[09:40] <suspekt> some will some one
[09:41] <Madpilot> !info fuse
[09:41] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in dapper
[09:41] <hoittr> Thanks Madpilot, I'm just not sure on the etiquete for bug reporting =P
[09:41] <Madpilot> hoittr, "if in doubt, file" - it can always be marked as a duplicate later
[09:41] <michael_> How do u install dx9 on ubuntu?
[09:41] <neutrinomass> hoittr: If it seems like a different issue, or you're not sure whether its the same issue, file a new one. Only follow up if you are certain :)
[09:41] <nik> directX 9?
[09:41] <michael_> Yeh
[09:41] <suspekt> uh... you can do that?
[09:41] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: so fuse isn't in repo. what can we do?
[09:42] <hoittr> Didnt want to make more work for you already busy developers... Thank you for the guideance.. And THANK YOU for such a wonderfull distro, new to linux, (1 week) but almost completely windows free and loving it.
[09:42] <michael_> What??? all games use dx9
[09:42] <Flashq009> how can i install ubuntu without removing windows?
[09:42] <michael_> why wouldnt linux run it lolz
[09:42] <suspekt> i think thats why most games don't run in linux
[09:43] <michael_> how u instal dx9 on games
[09:43] <Madpilot> michael_, because Microsoft owns DX, and they haven't ever made a Linux port of it...
[09:43] <michael_> :(
[09:43] <michael_> Sniffers
[09:43] <suspekt> (i think he is trolling)
[09:43] <michael_> Time to uninstall all my games
[09:43] <hoittr> michael_: There IS a solution (Albit a not-so-great one) google for cedega
[09:43] <michael_> Weee
[09:44] <hoittr> It is not FOS... But it works.
[09:44] <hoittr> 15$ for three months.
[09:44] <Daniel0> how do i get my wireless internet connection to work? it tells me to enter the wep key but i use wpa!!
[09:44] <michael_> bah no point of installing games
[09:44] <michael_> dont even work
[09:44] <hoittr> If your games use OpenGL instead of DX9 (Most have a command line option for this) try them with Wine (Install wine using apt-get install wine)
[09:44] <Seveas> !tell Daniel0 about wpa
[09:45] <hoittr> michael_:  What games?
[09:45] <michael_> i have wine
[09:45] <Madpilot> michael_, there are Linux-native games, and some will run with Cedega or Wine...
[09:45] <michael_> new ones
[09:45] <michael_> Half-life 2
[09:45] <cwillu> michael_: cedega works with a number of windows games (it's a fork of wine with better dx support);  not free, but pretty cheap
[09:45] <michael_> gta-sa
[09:45] <suspekt> half life 2 is native i thought?
[09:45] <michael_> idk
[09:45] <michael_> jhavent botherd installing :-)
[09:45] <chavo> no hl2 will run on cedega though
[09:45] <Daniel0> somebody help me with wpa please...
[09:46] <michael_> does wine support directDraw
[09:46] <suspekt> i know when i installed UT2k4 in linux it ran even better
[09:46] <hoittr> Cedega will run most games you will need. It takes some tweaking, but eventualy you can get it.. Unless you use an ATI video card, then it takes ALOT of tweaking, and eventualy you MIGHT get it :)
[09:46] <Flashq009> how do I install ubuntu server without removing windows?
[09:46] <hoittr> directDraw is part of the DX API... You would need cedega
[09:46] <michael_> Geforce fx here (Y)
[09:46] <cwillu> michael_: there's limited support in wine;  cedega's been taking some heat for not backporting their dx work into the wine mainline
[09:46] <chavo> yup, I was playing a hl2 mod a little while ago
[09:46] <michael_> :-@
[09:47] <michael_> Can wine run vb6? lol
[09:47] <suspekt> if ATI and AMD merge think ATI drivers will get better?
[09:47] <XTORTION> Hi i deleted some symbolic links but they wont permently remove. is there a command i can do to force them to delete
[09:47] <michael_> Na
[09:47] <dooglus> cwillu: how does that work?  they took the GPL'ed code, modified it, and now sell it and don't offer it for free?  Isn't that illegal?
[09:47] <hoittr> I could only hope suspekt, but I doubt it.
[09:47] <michael_> amd + geforce
[09:47] <cwillu> dooglus: yes, it is
[09:47] <michael_> Can wine install and run Visual basic 6
[09:47] <Agrajag> wine isn't GPL.
[09:48] <dooglus> cwillu: it's available on p2p networks, but that doesn't count!
[09:48] <suspekt> i thought what you paid for in Cadgeda is the updates?
[09:48] <hoittr> Cedega is NOT illegal, they added on to wine through modules. (Or something strange like that) so they are not required to release it under the GPL.
[09:48] <Agrajag> oh, I guess it's LGPL now, I don't think thats always been the case
[09:48] <cwillu> win is lgpl, which is close enough
[09:48] <hoittr> At least thats how I understand it.
[09:48] <Ademan> anyone have any idea why my laptop is unable to power down? it can "shut down" correctly, but then it says "WIll now Halt" and then does nothing, as opposed to actually powering down, i read a diagnostic message that says "acpi disabled by user request" so that's a clue, however, I made no such changes in my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:48] <XTORTION> Hi i deleted some symbolic links but they wont permently remove. is there a command i can do to force them to delete
[09:48] <suspekt> and can't you get Cadgeda for free if you install the cvs vers?
[09:48] <Ademan> LGPL is better than GPL
[09:48] <detectiveinspekt> where is the auto repo site?
[09:48] <cwillu> see, that's the point of contention;  the modules are useless without the wine mainline
[09:49] <kazil> how to mount the win partition (it`s on another hdd)
[09:49] <cwillu> i.e., they're completely dependant on it, which would technically make it neccessary to be lgpl'd as well
[09:49] <chavo> and if they give the drect draw stuff back then t\they have no product
[09:49] <solid_liq> Ademan: it is acpi; you have to figure out how to reenable acpi on your lappy
[09:49] <cwillu> it's hard to claim that they don't link to the libs
[09:49] <thoreauputic> !source-o-matic
[09:49] <hoittr> cwillu: On that note, crossover office would not work without the linux kernel... Does that make it "Bad(tm)" also?
[09:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:49] <cwillu> chavo: hardly, codeweavers does quite okay :)
[09:49] <nik> Ademan: do you have "apmd" in your current run level?
[09:49] <Agrajag> not really, because when you link to lgpl code, you don't have to make that code LGPL as well, that's why it's the lesser gpl
[09:49] <bigfoot1> i did "apt-cache search fuse" and found numerous files. what must i do (which files must i install) to get fuse working?
[09:50] <cwillu> hoittr: crossover could be compiled to run under any kernel
[09:50] <Ademan> nik: a proccess right?
[09:50] <chavo> cwillu, codewavers runs hl2?
[09:50] <nik> Ademan: an init script
[09:50] <Ademan> ah, lemme check
[09:50] <chavo> that is cedegas product, runnig games. codeweavers is different
[09:50] <hoittr> True cwillu, but on that note. Couldnt cedega if it was OS?
[09:50] <cwillu> Agrajag: got it backwards;  lgpl lets you make modules that other code includes;  they're writing modules that wine ends up including
[09:50] <Ademan> what do you mean though... runlevel?
[09:50] <suspekt> watch out for all this legality of gpl and lgpl...     in 20 years open source might be a history lesson
[09:50] <GNAM> I need edgy alpha
[09:50] <surpass> 
[09:50] <surpass> ?
[09:50] <kazil> any1?
[09:51] <cwillu> quite;  I only said it was a point of contention :)
[09:51] <raphink> suspekt: agreed
[09:51] <raphink> if everything was in lgpl, open-source would be dead by now
[09:51] <Ademan> i hope not, open source is.... important... to say the least
[09:51] <nik> Ademan: do "ls -l /etc/rc2.d/ | grep apmd" - is there an output?
[09:51] <dooglus> 'We call this license the "Lesser" General Public License because it does Less to protect the user's freedom than the ordinary GPL'
[09:51] <cwillu> dooglus: "   This license, the Lesser General Public License, applies to some specially designated software packages--typically libraries--of the Free Software Foundation and other authors who decide to use it.  "
[09:52] <Ademan> anyone have any idea why my laptop is unable to power down? it can "shut down" correctly, but then it says "WIll now Halt" and then does nothing, as opposed to actually powering down, i read a diagnostic message that says "acpi disabled by user request" so that's a clue, however, I made no such changes in my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:52] <Ademan> crap
[09:52] <XTORTION> Hi i deleted some symbolic links but they wont permently remove. is there a command i can do to force them to delete
[09:52] <Ademan> sorry
[09:52] <Daniel0> "If you do not see a network icon near your power information in gnome, you'll need to install network-manager-gnome." how do i install network-manager-gnome?
[09:52] <Ademan> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2006-05-25 21:18 S20apmd -> ../init.d/apmd
[09:52] <suspekt> as a liberal (under the true definition of liberal, not the fox news ver.) i really believe in the idea of a general public lisence... its the consept of democratic property
[09:52] <achandra> Hello all.. Does anyone know if the flash-player pluign for mozilla on 64bit systems is broken? as soon as I install it, it shuts down my browser when accessing a page enabled with flash..
[09:52] <raphink> Ademan: acpi support I guess
[09:52] <kazil> how to mount the win part (it`s on another hdd)?
[09:52] <nik> Ademan: then I can't help you; I had the some problem and the apmd script was the solution (before I played around with the init scripts...)
[09:52] <suspekt> i thought 64 don't have flash support yet
[09:52] <raphink> achandra: I don't think flash works on amd64 actually
[09:52] <daviscostel> who can tell me the commands to install nVidia Display driver??
[09:52] <Ademan> LGPL is much more convenient for many developers though, but then again, it IS the viral aspect of the GPL that keeps it alive
[09:53] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[09:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <Flashq009> hello, is there a way to install ubuntu server ed or desktop without removing windows?
[09:53] <cwillu> I'm not saying that cedega _is_ violating the licence (hell, I've got a subscription, and I just recommended the package in the first place :) ), just that there are those who think it might
[09:53] <Ademan> nik: that wasn't the "right" output?
[09:53] <firepol> hi, when i start ubuntu it stops at "Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald". I can't boot my machine unless I remove (I use the tool "rcconf" the "dbus" script from the boot scripts). Do you know a way to understand what's wrong?
[09:53] <achandra> raphink: thats what i thought too....strangely the flashplayer is offered in the synaptics repository though...
[09:53] <daviscostel> thanks
[09:53] <raphink> achandra: sure
[09:53] <nik> Ademan: yes, the script seems to be ok :)
[09:53] <achandra> why would that be??
[09:53] <nik> Ademan: it was
[09:54] <firepol> now im in my machine and from a terminal i run /etc/init.d/dbus start . it hangs. is there a way to see a log or something?
[09:54] <polpak> cwillu: it's not violating it, because it's a fork from before wine was licensed that way
[09:54] <suspekt> some one should submit that, your right i don't think its supposed to be in ther... unless they are working on it or somthing and its getting close?
[09:54] <raphink> achandra: look on the wiki, there _might_ be asource for a free implementation not sure though
[09:54] <bigfoot1> once, i had a movie file that I zipped up and split into 10 mb files. when i tried to put it all back together and unzip, the movie file wouldn't work
[09:54] <Ademan> nik: hehe, well then... so having the apm script is why its telling me acpi is disabled?
[09:54] <kazil> !mount
[09:54] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:54] <bigfoot1> my question is: why?
[09:54] <polpak> cwillu: but it's still not very nice that they don't give back to the community
[09:54] <achandra> cool will do
[09:54] <bigfoot1> and what other files should not be compressed?
[09:54] <m_0_r_0_n> Where can I find the video of an interview with Nelson Mandela who speaks about the philosophy of Ubuntu
[09:54] <hoittr> On to my next question (I reported the bug)... I cant seem to find the vncserver anywhere TO restart it... Is it called something strange?
[09:54] <nik> Ademan: no...I don't know...I just had the same problem (but without the acpi stuff) because the script was missing
[09:54] <Ademan> whats the command to update grub from menu.lst ?
[09:55] <bigfoot1> I'm planning on moving from one pc to another, and i'm going to be uploading them online, you see
[09:55] <polpak> Ademan: I don't think you need to. It just reads the menu.lst every time it boots
[09:55] <bigfoot1> is it a bad idea to compress, say, mp3 files?
[09:55] <raphink> bigfoot1: it's a useless idea
[09:55] <suspekt> ademan, it will do it if you install a linux kernal with synaptic
[09:55] <raphink> you won't get much from it
[09:55] <suspekt> i know thats not the answer to your question but its a getto methoed
[09:55] <Ademan> polpak: uh... how would it do that if it doesnt have a concept of anything but the bootsector?
[09:55] <bigfoot1> and would just putting several mp3 files together into one archive (using archiave mananger) *withoutt* any compression damage the files?
[09:56] <Ademan> i'm pretty sure it needs to be updated...
[09:56] <raphink> bigfoot1: mp3 is already compressed, so you'll get 2% or so from compressing them again
[09:56] <polpak> Ademan: it has more of a concept than that
[09:56] <kazil> Mounting: system -> administration -> disks this doesn`t seem to work
[09:56] <raphink> bigfoot1: you can put them in a tar, sure
[09:56] <cwillu> Ademan: it knows how to read boot, because /boot is a special mount (I believE)
[09:56] <Ademan> polpak: i'm PRETTY sure it doesnt do any file system work
[09:56] <bigfoot1> raphink: if i put them in tar, there will be no risk of uncompression problems?
[09:56] <raphink> bigfoot1: but then an scp or rsync would do the job recursively better imo
[09:56] <polpak> Ademan: when you install grub you tell it what partition to look for to find the menu.lst
[09:56] <raphink> bigfoot1: tar is not a compressed format
[09:57] <suspekt> bigfoot1 why are you trying to do that?
[09:57] <bigfoot1> raphink: what's scp or sync?
[09:57] <polpak> Ademan: it will look on that partition for /boot and find the menu.lst in there
[09:57] <polpak> Ademan: if you change the menu.lst and restart your change will take effect
[09:57] <bigfoot1> suspekt: coz i'm going to be moving from one country to another. and I'm going to move my files online temporarily.
[09:57] <raphink> bigfoot1: scp is a transfer through ssh, and rsyn can use ssh too but tries to minimize the exchanges and can resume
[09:57] <hoittr> I'm looking through help files, online (Google) and the wiki... but I cant seem to find the command to restart the VNC server that is included on dapper. Does anyone know the name?
[09:57] <Ademan> polpak: i'm like 99% sure thats not the case... but let me look it up
[09:58] <raphink> bigfoot1: I wouldn't tar the files, because if you transfer only one file, there's a greater chance of corruption than if you transfer a hundred
[09:58] <cwillu> hoittr: try a 'locate vnc' from a terminal, should give you a hint
[09:58] <bigfoot1> raphink: what?
[09:58] <polpak> Ademan: It is the case, cause I've done it
[09:58] <bigfoot1> raphink: i see
[09:58] <bigfoot1> i understand now
[09:58] <suspekt> bigfoot1, if you make yourself a gmail email account, you can store up to 2 gigs on there server
[09:58] <daviscostel> what other DC clients exist for linux?
[09:58] <cwillu> Ademan: quit saying it doesn't work, and do it :)
[09:58] <suspekt> and if you make 30 gmail accounts...
[09:58] <raphink> bigfoot1: if there's a transfer problem on your tar, you have everything borked (i.e. the tar) whereas if you transfer all the files separately and there's a transfer problem, only one small file is borked
[09:58] <dooglus> m_0_r_0_n: /usr/share/example-content/Experience ubuntu.ogg
[09:58] <bigfoot1> suspekt: yes, i can, but each attachment must be 10 mb max
[09:58] <Flashq009> I can'f figure out how to install ubuntu server and/or desktop on the computer without removing windows.  Does anyone know how?
[09:59] <raphink> bigfoot1: have a look at the rsync doc
[09:59] <Ademan> what would the point of updating AT ALL be?
[09:59] <bigfoot1> and uploading and downloading via gmail is too much hassle
[09:59] <polpak> Ademan: updating what?
[09:59] <Ademan> and having said that why would you have a bootloader that loads a filesystem, then EXITS main memory, and then the kernel loads up the same filesystem again...
[09:59] <bigfoot1> i've got perhaps 300 hundred mp3 files that i want to relocate/store online temporarily.
[09:59] <Ademan> polpak: grub-update
[09:59] <hoittr> Thanks, found the config in /etc/vnc.conf... But still didnt find the actual server, no worries =P This will work. Thanks
[09:59] <Ademan> that command would have no purpose...
[09:59] <raphink> bigfoot1: there's a gmailfs that exists, if you're interested ;)
[09:59] <cwillu> ademan, that updates automatically when you add/remove new kernels
[09:59] <bigfoot1> raphink: but rsync means that the receiving computer mustn be set up alreardy, yes?
[10:00] <bigfoot1> raphink: i tried
[10:00] <raphink> so you can just mount your gmail storage locally and just cp
[10:00] <bigfoot1> but i think i'm going to use the openomy.com account
[10:00] <raphink> although I think gmailfs is not fair towards gmail
[10:00] <bigfoot1> raphink: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1163725&postcount=7
[10:00] <Ademan> cwillu: i'm not adding or removing kernels though, i'm adding a few default kernel options
[10:00] <polpak> Ademan: I don't have that command
[10:00] <hoittr> vnc.conf isnt even usefull if I cant restart the server... I guess I'll just have to break down and reboot >< Such a waste. Thanks everyon!
[10:00] <polpak> Ademan: I have grub-install
[10:00] <Ademan> sorry its update-grub
[10:00] <dooglus> bigfoot1: compressing files shouldn't lose any data at all, if you use gzip or bzip2
[10:00] <cwillu> Ademan: menu.lst itself says what update-grub does to it
[10:00] <dooglus> bigfoot1: same with tar
[10:01] <bigfoot1> dooglus: really?
[10:01] <polpak> Ademan: update-grub generates the menu.lst. it doesn't do anything to grub itself
[10:01] <dooglus> bigfoot1: if you did lose data, it's some kind of error - hardware, software, user.
[10:01] <bigfoot1> dooglus: so what did raphink mean then  when he advised against tarring my files?
[10:01] <batte> Hi all, how do I create a swap partition ...
[10:01] <suspekt> you could just make a .torrent of your music folder and start the download on the other end?
[10:01] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I'm sure he didn't mean it would damage them...
[10:01] <XHK> When I gedit something, I get those errors: "locale not supported by Xlib" and "cannot set locale modifiers".
[10:01] <bigfoot1> suspekt: no i can't
[10:02] <bigfoot1> suspekt: because  i won't be possesing both computers at the same time
[10:02] <raphink> bigfoot1: I mean that damaging a 500MB tar is a huge lost of files, whereas damaging a single mp3 file of 5MB is not that much
[10:02] <cwillu> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/GrubSplash for instance
[10:02] <polpak> Ademan: for example you can change the default timeout on the menu or something and restart. It will be changed when it boots
[10:02] <raphink> so there's less risks in transfering the files separatly recursively imo
[10:02] <bigfoot1> raphink: yes, but won't i get some sort of message if there's a damage? So that i can re-do whatever it is that damaged the tarring?
[10:02] <raphink> sure bigfoot1
[10:03] <detectiveinspekt> can someone pt me in the direction in making dvd video from avi's
[10:03] <raphink> bigfoot1: and anyway for a huge transfer I'd use rsync so you can resume
[10:03] <bigfoot1> raphink: so what exactly damages a tar file, or any other file?
[10:03] <dooglus> raphink: right.  but that's not due to compression damaging the files.  if the files get damaged in transit, that's some kind of error, not a fault in the compression
[10:03] <dooglus> raphink: spilling beer on it?
[10:03] <raphink> sure dooglus I didn't say it was linked to compression
[10:03] <bigfoot1> raphink: how can i find more info about this rysinc thing?
[10:03] <raphink> there's not even a compression in tars ;)
[10:03] <raphink> tar is just gather various files in one
[10:03] <raphink> it's an archive
[10:03] <[666] CortexX> I have 2.5Go free, can I install ubuntu 6.06 ? is ti enouth ?
[10:03] <raphink> compression is gz or bz
[10:03] <Ademan> polpak, cwillu: well the manpage supports what you guys are saying... but thats an absolute shit system then... that means grub has to have hard coded file system support....
[10:03] <dooglus> raphink: right.  but bigfoot1 was scared of using compression because it has damaged his files in the past...
[10:03] <cwillu> bigfoot1 dooglus raphink:  the point is that if anything happens to the file (network timeout, etc), a 500mb file has to be redownload 500mb, while 100 5mb files only have to redownload 5mb
[10:03] <raphink> sure cortex
[10:04] <raphink> dooglus: there's no point of using compression to gather mp3s he won't get anything out of it
[10:04] <cwillu> Ademan: don't worry about it, it's actually quite simple;  don't worry about the man behind the curtain
[10:04] <dooglus> raphink: tar can compress too
[10:04] <bigfoot1> cwillu: but my problem wasn't with the download.
[10:04] <[666] CortexX> ok because the install plant and I thaught it was owing to it
[10:04] <Flashq009> can some pt me in the right direction on how to install ubuntu server lts and/or desktop along side windows xp?
[10:04] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[10:04] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:04] <[666] CortexX> thank
[10:04] <Madpilot> Flashq009, ^^^
[10:04] <Flashq009> thank you
[10:04] <bigfoot1> i think zipping a movie file with compression  and then splitting it up into 10mbs each was the thing that damaged the file
[10:04] <XHK> When I gedit something, I get those errors: "locale not supported by Xlib" and "cannot set locale modifiers". Why is that so? : (
[10:05] <polpak> Ademan: it seems to be good enough at what it does to have most people using it..
[10:05] <bigfoot1> i'm scared because i didn't even know anything was wrong untlil it was too late
[10:05] <batte> I made a swap partition, but ubuntu wont use it? what did i do wrong?
[10:05] <cwillu> Ademan: if you want a boot loader that doesn't do that on principle, look at lilo (requires a command to be run before the changed file is applied), but I really wouldn't worry about it :)
[10:05] <polpak> Ademan: even Lilo had to have fs support, otherwise it wouldn't have been able to find the kernel file to boot
[10:05] <bigfoot1> i'm scared because i didn't even get any error messages on the way
[10:06] <soundray> polpak: that isn't exactly true
[10:06] <Ademan> polpak: it probably just got a cylinder head sector at "update time", but then again, i could be wrong
[10:06] <IndianGiver> i've install all the packages and i still cant play .avi files
[10:06] <dooglus> raphink: you'd be surprised.  I just tried compressing an mp3 and it got 3% smaller!
[10:06] <polpak> soundray: I'm pretty sure that lilo didn't cram all the kernel images into the boot loader
[10:06] <XHK> IndianGiver, use VLC player
[10:06] <bigfoot1> dooglus: raphink didn't say that they don't get smaller.
[10:06] <XHK> IndianGiver, it helped me.
[10:07] <cwillu> Ademan: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-grub.html has a bit of a discussion on the tradeoffs
[10:07] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i think raphink said that the amount you save is small, as you have seen
[10:07] <raphink> dooglus: that's what I said, it's useless
[10:07] <IndianGiver> can you give me the command XHK ?
[10:07] <raphink> getting 3% compression is useless
[10:07] <cwillu> polpak, Ademan:  lilo updates the mbr for each modification
[10:07] <raphink> loss of time ;)
[10:07] <XHK> IndianGiver, sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-*
[10:07] <Ademan> polpak: all you need is the location on disk... i mean thats all a file system amounts to, a way to keep track of sections of disk
[10:07] <soundray> polpak: I'm pretty sure that lilo doesn't have "proper" filesystem support (in the sense that it could principally read any file, like grub can)
[10:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: maybe IRC compressed his text - 'cos by the time it reached me it had been damaged to say that compressing mp3s gives you no benefit.
[10:08] <IndianGiver> does mplayer play avi?
[10:08] <IndianGiver> im wondering why xine doesnt
[10:08] <bigfoot1> IndianGiver: yes
[10:08] <IndianGiver> ive install everything
[10:08] <bigfoot1> dooglus: who's text?
[10:08] <bigfoot1> sorry: whose text?
[10:08] <kazil> how 2 UNINSTALL ubuntu?
[10:08] <XHK> IndianGiver: Did you try VLC?
[10:09] <dooglus> bigfoot1: raphink's's
[10:09] <thoreauputic> IndianGiver: avi is a container, not a codec - run "file yourvidfile.avi " to see what codec you are dealing with
[10:09] <cwillu> kazil: returning to windows?  are you dual booting already or just looking to start clean?
[10:09] <soundray> kazil: just reformat the partition with your other OS
[10:09] <IndianGiver> its dl'ing right now XHK
[10:09] <bigfoot1> dooglus: oh i see. it was a joke
[10:09] <thoreauputic> where yourvidfile.avi is the name of course
[10:09] <kazil> soundray: i can`t see the ubuntu from win
[10:09] <XHK> IndianGiver, ok.
[10:10] <cwillu> soundray: so you already have a windows installation and don't want to wipe it, right?
[10:10] <kazil> cwillu: yes, this ubuntu will get me a nervous breakdown
[10:10] <kazil> cwillu: yes
[10:10] <IndianGiver> wmv its a w32 codec  thoreauputic but i installed it
[10:10] <soundray> cwillu: god no, far from it! I don't have Windows.
[10:10] <IndianGiver> ms wmv 8
[10:10] <cwillu> oops sorry, wrong person soundray :)
[10:10] <mindspit> does anyone have knowledge on how ispconfig works ?
[10:10] <dooglus> kazil: you can get an official nervous breakdown using synaptic.  on apt-get if you're hard core :)
[10:10] <soundray> :)
[10:10] <neutrinomass> kazil: I'm very sorry to hear that :( You can boot from the LiveCD and format the partition Ubuntu is on ...
[10:10] <thoreauputic> IndianGiver: you installed w32codecs, right? Should work with xine or mplayer then
[10:11] <kazil> i just can`t get anything work!
[10:11] <bigfoot1> so please confirm again: if I tar a file *without* any compression, there will be no danger of the files inside being damaged/corrupted, yes?
[10:11] <polpak> thoreauputic: or totem-xine
[10:11] <IndianGiver> i installed them but its not working
[10:11] <cwillu> kazil: start | control panel | administrative tools | disk manager;
[10:11] <thoreauputic> polpak: sasme backend, yes
[10:11] <kazil> neutrinomas: will that get off grub-loader?
[10:11] <cwillu> kazil: the linux partitions will show up there as unknown;  you can wipe and reformat them as ntfs
[10:11] <neutrinomass> kazil: Well, you could ask here I suppose :) Is it hardware-autodetection or software stuff that make you not like it ?
[10:11] <kazil> everything
[10:11] <polpak> IndianGiver: how did you install them?
[10:11] <cymcy> hello #ubuntu
[10:12] <cwillu> kazil: there's a command to do that, one sec
[10:12] <IndianGiver> apt-get install
[10:12] <polpak> IndianGiver: apt-get install what
[10:12] <IndianGiver> sudo apt-get install w32codec
[10:12] <IndianGiver> i went through the whole list of packages to install
[10:12] <polpak> IndianGiver: I'm pretty sure you have to dl the win 32 codecs directly
[10:12] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[10:12] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[10:12] <IndianGiver> wget -c
[10:13] <kazil> this thing freaked me out: i`m logged on as admin, i create a folder, try to del it and it says that i can not do that cause of the permissions
[10:13] <neutrinomass> kazil: OK. Thanks for giving it a shot though :) Just make sure you don't leave too early - it does take some getting used to ...
[10:13] <cymcy> does anyone have lirc functionnal under dapper ? and how make it work ?
[10:13] <cwillu> kazil: you're probably not actually running as admin, but as a user with admin authority (which you still need to specify)
[10:13] <neutrinomass> kazil: That shouldn't be happening. How did you log in as admin and how did you create the folder?
[10:14] <cwillu> kazil:  "sudo nautilus . " would give you an explorer window you could use to delete it
[10:14] <cwillu> kazil: it solves the problem of an errant user deleting the linux equivilent of c:/windows
[10:14] <kazil> neutrinomas: actually i think i`m logged on as admin... :/
[10:14] <voltage> do anybody know where to get more resources for Java programming for Ubuntu or Kubuntu... :)
[10:14] <neutrinomass> kazil: It could be that you created the folder as admin and then tried to open it as a normal user (you only get administration privileges if you use 'sudo' )
[10:15] <cwillu> kazil: almost certainly didn't log in as admin unless you enabled it for login, gave it a password, etc (i.e., it's called root, not admin)
[10:15] <soundray> kazil: you can be logged in as admin all you like -- you still need to use sudo to do privileged operations.
[10:15] <kazil> maybe i`m just to dumb for this...
[10:15] <polpak> voltage: other than installing the jdk?
[10:15] <soundray> kazil: probably not. There is just a learning curve.
[10:15] <thoreauputic> !tell kazil about docs
[10:15] <cwillu> kazil: hardly, it's just that nobody is comfortable at first
[10:15] <firepol> lshal gives me this error. enay ideas? error: libhal_ctx_init: (null): (null)
[10:15] <neutrinomass> kazil: I bet you're not :) When the Ubuntu installation is complete, the installer creates one user, 'kazil'. This 'kazil' user can escalate his permissions to become "administrator"/"root in UNIX terminology.
[10:16] <suspekt> how stringent to the 'directory guidlines' does ubuntu stick?
[10:16] <neutrinomass> kazil: But you're only working as a normal user until you decide to become admin, using "sudo". This is to avoid messing up you're system, which has happened many many times with users logged in as administrators but forgetting that their system as at their mercy.
[10:16] <suspekt> i read in my 'LINUX' book that all these directorys in root all have very defined purpose (by looking at them i havn't fully figured it out... but getting there)
[10:16] <cwillu> kazil: to get rid of grub, make a windows boot disk from windows (format a disk and tell it to make it a boot disk), boot from it, and then run fdisk /fixmbr
[10:16] <cwillu> that'll wipe grub
[10:16] <cwillu> make sure you do that _before_ you delete the partitions though, otherwise things will just get annoying (i.e., you'll have to get a boot disk made from another computer and use that)
[10:16] <neutrinomass> suspekt: What directory guidelines ?
[10:17] <soundray> suspekt: very strictly, in that if a package doesn't adhere, that is classified as a bug.
[10:17] <IndianGiver> hell yea
[10:17] <Skiddles^> 
[10:17] <neutrinomass> suspekt: Usually all these are just "guidelines" and many books a little bit outdated. Most of what is said in your book is probably right, but not to the letter.
[10:17] <IndianGiver> finally
[10:17] <kazil> i want to learn this thing. .but it`s just doesn`t want to work...
[10:17] <IndianGiver> Avi files work
[10:17] <cwillu> kazil: don't worry about it, it took me 3 or 4 trial runs over a period of several years before I was comfortable on it
[10:17] <neutrinomass> kazil: Have you read the user handbook ?
[10:18] <neutrinomass> kazil: Don't forget that you can pop in here and ask questions if you get somewhere :)
[10:18] <IndianGiver> rofl you have to be kidding me
[10:18] <IndianGiver> i get no sound from vlc
[10:18] <IndianGiver> but i get video
[10:18] <cwillu> kazil: play around with live cd's once in a while, see if you can aquire an older machine to play with (so you're not completely dependant on being a linux user before you're comfortable with it)
[10:18] <IndianGiver> killall -9
[10:19] <cwillu> kazil: and don't let all the problems that show up in here put you off;  nobody comes in here unless things aren't working for them, and so you don't see too many flawless users in here :)
[10:19] <kazil> i`ve played with knopix for about 2 months.. .i thought i`ve got it all...
[10:19] <IndianGiver> i love linux so much
[10:19] <IndianGiver> why doesnt it love me
[10:19] <cwillu> kazil: just takes time to get used to it, don't push too hard
[10:19] <kazil> cwillu: LOL LD
[10:19] <Rhett_> IndianGiver, you probably have a sound server active that's got control atm, try killall esd & killall artsd
[10:19] <IndianGiver> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:19] <Rhett_> and restart vlc
[10:19] <bigfoot1> IndianGiver: coz it's immature. give it a few years. it will love you. and it will  love me.
[10:20] <cwillu> kazil: soundray is one of the few :)
[10:20] <Rhett_> linux is friendly, its just picky about who it is friends with
[10:20] <IndianGiver> yea Rhett_ i forgot i had xmms on another workstation
[10:20] <IndianGiver> everythings working
[10:20] <bigfoot1> cwillu: yes, soundray is one of the few you insists he's flawless. 8-)
[10:20] <Rhett_> IndianGiver, awesome =)
[10:20] <IndianGiver> oh god that graphics are so awesome
[10:20] <cwillu> kazil: what people don't realize is that windows has all the same problems:  if you didn't set up your computer yourself, you don't realize all the crap that you had to struggle with to get it working :)
[10:20] <Kipps> if only i could get my stupid RTL8187 usb wifi card going under nix, i'd be happy
[10:21] <Kipps> ... unfortunately i'm gunna have to wait until exams are over before i touch on that one =)
[10:21] <cwillu> kazil: the difference is that there's alot more companies that go through that pain and suffering installing windows than there are for linux
[10:21] <kazil> cwillu: i spent about a month to get off all the craps from win
[10:21] <cwillu> lol
[10:21] <suspekt> Honestly... installing linux machines is easyer
[10:21] <mada> yo
[10:21] <kazil> it`s just full of it
[10:22] <Kipps> i know this is probalby a faq, but is there a document somewhere that explains exactly the relationship between debian packages and ubuntu?
[10:22] <suspekt> think about it... who has installed a OEM windows on a dell desktop and then had the fun of searching the Dell website for drivers
[10:22] <mada> anyone running ubuntu on a laptop that they are particularly happy with?
[10:22] <Kipps> and how exactly it all comes together?
[10:22] <cwillu> keeping poking away at it, eventually you'll type sudo vim /etc/fstab and realize that you didn't even think about it :)
[10:22] <suspekt> IBM T30
[10:22] <Kipps> suspekt, pretty easy actually, support.ap.dell.com
[10:22] <mada> suspekt: i have dealt with that driver search before ... used to be a technician
[10:23] <Kipps> generally it's a matter of putting in your sys tag and it'll show you?
[10:23] <Kipps> i thought it was fantastic
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Kipps: you might try the apt-howto package ( install, then type apt-howto in a terminal and it should open in your browser )
[10:23] <kazil> well... ok.. .how do i use this "sudo" thingy? gimme an example...
[10:23] <Tremitos> hi
[10:23] <mada> Kipps: it makes it hard when the dell ethernet card isn't supported by the oem copy of windows
[10:23] <cwillu> kazil: but yes:  boot into windows, make a boot floppy, fdisk /fixmbr, and then clear the partitions (using a linux boot cd if you want it to be one big drive;  windows can only handle making a second seperate partition from the freed space)
[10:23] <suspekt> sigh... you know what i mean though!
[10:23] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[10:23] <cwillu> kazil: what's the folder you want to delete?
[10:23] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:23] <Tremitos> fun
[10:23] <Kipps> mada, hehe yeah, i had a dell box taht didn't have an ethernet card supported in the base debian install a while ago, made things difficult
[10:23] <cwillu> I'm not going to bed for a while, so I'll see what I can do :)
[10:24] <Kipps> thoreauputic, i don't currently have ubuntu installed
[10:24] <mada> Kipps: dell puts some weird network hardware in their boxes :/
[10:24] <suspekt> pop in a windows CD, download and install driver.    pop in ubuntu cd and most stuff is supported out the box
[10:24] <Kipps> thoreauputic, damn crazy wifi usb adaptors =\
[10:24] <kazil> cwillu: i`ve just get up :) it`s 10am here :P
[10:24] <cwillu> 2:30 am :p
[10:24] <Kipps> mada, yeah, this was a gigabit ethernet adaptor that seemed to still be experimental in the kernel at the time =\
[10:24] <kazil> cwillu: just gimme an example
[10:24] <cwillu> kazil: but yes, where was the folder you wanted to delete?
[10:24] <Kipps> i woke up at 2pm today...
[10:24] <thoreauputic> Kipps: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:25] <kazil> for like... dunno... something folder :)
[10:25] <cwillu> kazil:  sudo rmdir /folder/name/goes/here
[10:25] <mada> Kipps: lol, thats always fun ... its like playing with wifi on my iBook G4 AirPort Extreme card :P
[10:25] <kazil> 1`s on the desktop
[10:25] <kazil> thx :)
[10:25] <Kipps> thoreauputic, yeah, but whats the actual relationship with ubuntu packages and debian?
[10:25] <Kipps> i understand apt repositories
[10:25] <cwillu> kazil: also, you know what ~ is?
[10:25] <kazil> back in a minute to tell the result :)
[10:25] <kazil> nope
[10:25] <cwillu> ~ == /home/<yourusername>/
[10:26] <cwillu> so ~/Desktop is you're desktop
[10:26] <cwillu> lol
[10:26] <cwillu> right
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Kipps: ubuntu uses a snapshot of debian unstable every 6 months and builds its own packages from that starting point
[10:26] <Kipps> ahhh thanks
[10:26] <cwillu> kazil: also good to note that linux is case sensitive
[10:26] <mada> Kipps: Ubuntu has become its own entity that kinda runs in parallel to debian, don't mix and match debian and ubuntu repos, systems will crash
[10:26] <kazil> that i know cwillu ;)
[10:26] <cwillu> kazil: I'll give you a setting to tweak to help with that
[10:26] <mada> Kipps: like thoreauputic said :)
[10:26] <Kipps> yeah, i knew there was a relationship, but where i loooked on ubuntu.org didn't seem to explain it
[10:26] <kazil> with what?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Kipps: then they don't change until the next release except for security and bugfixes
[10:26] <cwillu> kazil: you can make the tab-completion case_in_sensitive, which is wonderful for dealing with that :)
[10:26] <Kipps> that's fantastic
[10:27] <Kipps> i'll be giving it a go after my exams :D
[10:27] <suspekt> anyone experience putting ubuntu on a apple laptop?
[10:27] <mada> Kipps: i have been a debian user for roughly 5 years and i just switched to ubuntu for my desktop about a month ago and i love it, debian for my servers and ubuntu for my desktops
[10:28] <thoreauputic> suspekt: I have it on an iBook G4
[10:28] <Kipps> mada, yeah, i'd normally use debian-unstable, but my isp has a pretty crappy d/l limit
[10:28] <Kipps> and i can get ubuntu isos for free
[10:28] <suspekt> now that IBM is putting backdoors in the notebooks or whatever (all i know is the gov won't buy em anymore) i was thinking of using mac hardware
[10:28] <Kipps> so i'm probably gunna go that way
[10:28] <cwillu> kazil: how familiar are you with the windows command line?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> suspekt: works well - except for the insternal modem , java and flash
[10:29] <mada> Kipps: yeah, i like ubuntu
[10:29] <Madpilot> Kipps, if you're thinking of ordering the free CDs from ShipIt, do the ordering now, ShipIt can be slow sometimes
[10:29] <thoreauputic> suspekt: *internal modem
[10:29] <suspekt> thoreauputic, do you think the java and flash problems will go away with an intel ppc?
[10:29] <cwillu> thoreauputic: ahhh, the infamous winmodems :)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> suspekt: I doubt it
[10:30] <cwillu> suspekt: which flash/java problems?
[10:30] <thoreauputic> cwillu: in this case macmodems I suppose :)
[10:30] <cwillu> bah :p
[10:30] <Kipps> Madpilot, isp makes the isos available for free, just not the updates
[10:30] <kazil> sudo rullz :D
[10:30] <cwillu> heh
[10:30] <cwillu> k, next lesson :p
[10:30] <Madpilot> Kipps, nice deal - just watch the updates, a newly installed system will have a *lot* of updates to pull down
[10:30] <suspekt> I am sortof shopping for my next notebook whenever my T30 dies on me and was wondering which way to go
[10:30] <Kipps> Madpilot, silly i guess, but effectively it makes distros that release monthly easier to deal with than repos that change regularly :P
[10:30] <kazil> cwillu: why? (command line)
[10:30] <Kipps> Madpilot, yeah, will do
[10:30] <soundray> suspekt: thoreauputic, I disagree. I've heard that you can install i386 on Apple-Intel hardware, including Java and Flash
[10:30] <kazil> c, i`m ready :D
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cwillu: java and flash are not available in ppc ( unless you count the Free versions which are not very mature)
[10:31] <cwillu> kazil: case insensitivity on the command line?  it's wonderful so you don't have to remember that X11 is written exacltly like that, or some odd pROgrAM deCiDed to Be FunKY
[10:31] <thoreauputic> soundray: I was talking about an iBook G4
[10:31] <cwillu> thoreauputic: ah, k
[10:31] <soundray> suspekt: just make sure you get a Macbook, not one of the old PPC based ones
[10:31] <suspekt> yeah but mac is using intel i686 style chips now?
[10:31] <thoreauputic> soundray: not an intel mac
[10:31] <spikeb> no dont do that
[10:31] <kazil> :D :D :D
[10:31] <soundray> thoreauputic: suspekt asked specifically about Intel Macs.
[10:32] <cwillu> kazil: so ya, sudo lets you run any command as the root user;  sudo gedit filename would open that file and let you edit it, etc
[10:32] <thoreauputic> soundray: ah I must have missed that
[10:32] <kazil> mmm... how to muont from the terminal....
[10:32] <nemoo> Ubuntu - how to use see the content of a package before install using apt ????
[10:32] <thoreauputic> soundray: OK - my error then
[10:32] <cwillu> but you should also learn how to at least modify and save files using a terminal
[10:32] <cwillu> hence (evil grin)
[10:32] <kazil> cat command?
[10:32] <suspekt> but it was a generalized question about all the hardware
[10:32] <suspekt> which sounds like they work
[10:32] <cwillu> sudo vi /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:33] <soundray> nemoo: you have to have apt-file to get listings of packages before they are installed.
[10:33] <suspekt> alrighty yall
[10:33] <soundray> nemoo: sudo apt-get install apt-file ; sudo apt-file update ; man apt-file
[10:33] <cwillu> kazil: pgdown to the end of the file, and then if you want, add these commands:
[10:33] <suspekt> goodnight... its 4:30 and school starts in a few hours
[10:33] <cwillu> bind 'set completion-ignore-case on'
[10:33] <cwillu> bind 'tab: menu-complete'
[10:34] <cwillu> kazil: "how do you edit", you ask?
[10:34] <paramed> hi all
[10:34] <kazil> cat?
[10:34] <cwillu> cat?
[10:34] <cwillu> why do you wanna know about cat?  :)
[10:34] <cwillu> cat just reads a file and spits it back out
[10:34] <kazil> isn`t there a command named cat?
[10:34] <cwillu> so cat /etc/X11/Xorg.conf will dump your X windows config
[10:34] <kazil> cat>>something?
[10:34] <cwillu> it's equivilent to type
[10:35] <paramed> I am struggling to import mail from my old outlook to Evolution! please help
[10:35] <cwillu> the >'s are general commands, to let you redirect the output of an arbitrary command somewhere else
[10:35] <soundray> kazil: yes, that's a very backwards way to append to a file
[10:35] <kazil> then i ask: how do you edit? :D
[10:35] <cwillu> hence, cat /etc/fstab >~/MyNewFile will write the contents of fstab to the file mentioned
[10:35] <soundray> kazil: gedit file (as admin: sudo gedit file)
[10:35] <cwillu> (obliterating whatever else was in the file)
[10:36] <cwillu> >> would add the contents of fstab to the end of the file
[10:36] <paramed> can anyone help me with importing a PST file into Evolution?
[10:36] <cwillu> sudo vi /etc/bash.bashrc will edit that file in a slightly evil command line editor :)
[10:36] <soundray> paramed: is that the MS Outlook format?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> sudo nano /etc/bash.bashrc is slightly less evil but less powerful :)
[10:36] <spikeb> vim: powered by evil(TM)
[10:36] <spikeb> heh
[10:36] <kazil> prob. is that the ubuntu machine is in another room... i think i need some paper...
[10:36] <solid_liq> cwillu: what's so evil about vim?
[10:37] <paramed> yes.. it is
[10:37] <cwillu> kazil, does it have internet access?
[10:37] <kazil> nope :(
[10:37] <cwillu> solid_liq: nothing really, except that it's command line oriented and thus evil to foist on a new comer to linux
[10:37] <paramed> soundray, yes it..
[10:37] <cwillu> solid_liq: I was also expecting a few emacs fans to come out of the woodwork at that point :)
[10:37] <soundray> paramed: I don't think they can be imported straight. Give me a minute...
[10:37] <kazil> i`m from yugoslavia man... i praise the lord even for a computer...
[10:38] <spikeb> hehe kazil
[10:38] <cwillu> kazil: fair enough :)
[10:38] <solid_liq> cwillu: heheh, EMACS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
[10:38] <compengi> in the xchat how can i open a new server
[10:38] <soundray> paramed: look at a program called "readpst":
[10:38] <thoreauputic> !info ed
[10:38] <ubotu> ed: The classic unix line editor. In repository main, is standard. Version 0.2-20 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[10:38] <soundray> !info readpst
[10:38] <ubotu> readpst: Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 54 kB, installed size 192 kB
[10:39] <Kipps> wow, you can convert pst files now?!?
[10:39] <cwillu> sudo vi /path/to/file
 to enter insert mode
 to leave that mode
[10:39] <cwillu> :w to save the file when not in insert mode
[10:39] <cwillu> :q to quit when you're sick of vi
[10:39] <cwillu> :q! to quit and lose any changes made (:q will just prompt that otherwise)
[10:39] <thoreauputic> ed really *is* evil ;)
[10:39] <soundray> Kipps: was news to me too. It's always worth asking apt-cache...
[10:39] <solid_liq> no, you can use the letter i to enter insert mode, and control-c to exit insert mode
[10:39] <Kipps> does it convert everything, including calendar/contacts?
[10:39] <solid_liq> much easer :D
[10:39] <cwillu> kazil: sudo gedit /path/to/file would be easier to use, but it's good to at least know how to edit a file without the gui working
[10:40] <Kipps> or just mail to mbox?
[10:40] <cwillu> solid_liq: whichever :p
[10:40] <soundray> Kipps: only mail, afai can see
[10:40] <Kipps> thats still pretty awesome =)
[10:40] <solid_liq> cwillu: well, my way you don't have to take your hands off the home row
[10:40] <solid_liq> :D
[10:40] <cwillu> solid_liq: because I and ctrl+c are obviously on home row :p
[10:41] <solid_liq> cwillu: I mean, you don't have to move your hands from the home row position, *duh*! :D
[10:41] <cwillu> insert and escape are easier targets to hit, being at the edge of a cluster of keys and it's own cluster of keys respectively
[10:42] <solid_liq> cwillu: yeah, but slower
[10:42] <nemoo> thnks soundray, do an apt-get now :)
[10:42] <cwillu> less temptation to merely twist the wrist to hit the keys though
[10:42] <cwillu> if you use either one, you move your arm, and as such don't injure yourself :)
[10:42] <solid_liq> just like when you have to grab the mouse to do something in stupid windows
[10:42] <cwillu> solid_liq: amateur;  I've admin'd windows boxes that never had a mouse hooked up in the first place
[10:42] <solid_liq> cwillu: hah
[10:43] <solid_liq> cwillu: I'm not talking about for admin tasks
[10:43] <cwillu> it's quite a bit easier than linux gui keyboard navigation actually, they do have better consistency
[10:43] <solid_liq> cwillu: than what desktop environment?
[10:43] <cwillu> gnome
[10:43] <solid_liq> well gnome sucks
[10:43] <solid_liq> use kde
[10:43] <cwillu> heh
[10:43] <solid_liq> like Linux Torvalds himself says
[10:43] <solid_liq> :D
[10:43] <nemoo> oh, gnome sucks ???
[10:43] <nemoo> really ?
[10:43] <cwillu> oh boy
[10:44] <solid_liq> er, Linus
[10:44] <cwillu> what have I done
[10:44] <solid_liq> hehe
[10:44] <thoreauputic> guys, desktop wars ->> #ubuntu-offtopic  :)
[10:44] <solid_liq> nemoo: yes gnome sucks, and Linus Torvalds agrees, otherwise he wouldn't make fun of its devs
[10:44] <cwillu> I've just trounced through every flame war from emacs vs vi to gnome vs kde :)
[10:44] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: please note my suggestion
[10:45] <Ademan> why doesnt firefox draw form elements (listbox, text area etc) with gtk?
[10:45] <cwillu> of course, the kernel team didn't think that swapping out user processes for more cache was a problem, because it would make updatedb run 3 seconds faster :)
[10:45] <nemoo> solid_liq ,i don't care what Linus has said ....just care what he has done
[10:45] <soundray> Ademan: install firefox-gnome-support
[10:45] <kazil> this "vi - case-thingy" does`t seems to work...
[10:45] <cwillu> thoreauputic: no worries, we've actually been flaming about vi: escape vs ctrl+c for 10 minutes :)
[10:45] <solid_liq> kazil: ?
[10:46] <artfors> does anyone know why beagel don't index my documents folder?
[10:46] <cwillu> kazil: terminal needs to be restarted first, and it only applies to the completion (hitting tab)
[10:46] <thoreauputic> cwillu: yeah I noticed ;)
[10:46] <kazil> cwillu: ok
[10:46] <solid_liq> artfors: check its config file
[10:46] <Ademan> soundray: iirc i've already got that
[10:46] <thoreauputic> cwillu: lets keep the flamewars out of the channel though
[10:46] <artfors> done  that
[10:46] <Ademan> how does epiphany match up to firefox out of curiosity?
[10:46] <soundray> Ademan: restarted firefox since?
[10:47] <solid_liq> Ademan: epiphany isn't very good
[10:47] <dsas> Ademan: Firefox isn't very good.
[10:47] <dsas> Ademan: It comes down to personal preference basically.
[10:47] <cwillu> speaking of flamewars :p
[10:47] <spikeb> hehe
[10:47] <solid_liq> Ademan: if you want an alternative to firefox, try opera, or konqueror if you want something smaller/lighter
[10:47] <Ademan> soundray: iirc i've had it since the beggining, i can't honestly say its not drawing with gtk, its just not obeying my gnome theme... which i thought applies to all gtk widgets
[10:47] <kazil> now it works :)
[10:48] <spikeb> could we NOT recommend proprietary software as the first alternative?
[10:48] <cwillu> yay!
[10:48] <kazil> next lesson?
[10:48] <Krhis> Developers, developers, developers, developers, developers.... this is a catchy song.
[10:48] <dsas> solid_liq: If you're running a gnome desktop konqueror will not be lighter than epiphany due to it having to load in kde libs
[10:48] <solid_liq> Ademan: opera is from a company, and konqueror is actually supported by apple because they based their safari browser on it
[10:48] <cwillu> Ademan: if I recall correctly, mozilla/firefox actually fakes all the widgets (although it does a damn good job)
[10:48] <soundray> Ademan: why don't you check it out -- "dpkg -l firefox-gnome-support"
[10:48] <Ademan> if safari is based on it i'm not touching it lol
[10:48] <cwillu> Ademan: I'm not sure if that applies to the gtk build though
[10:48] <artfors> solid_liq: I'v also deleted the .beagle folder twis
[10:48] <solid_liq> spikeb: hey, I have to recommend in order of best first, whether it's opensource or not
[10:48] <cwillu> kazil: locate is a handy command too
[10:49] <spikeb> solid_liq: if the devs followed that mantra, opera would be the default browser.
[10:49] <dsas> solid_liq: Best it totally subjective though.
[10:49] <cwillu> kazil: 'locate foo' will find every file on the drive that has 'foo' in the filename
[10:49] <dsas> s/it/is
[10:49] <kazil> i think there`s a sudo...something command to mount the win part... hm?
[10:49] <cwillu> windows partition?
[10:49] <kazil> yep
[10:50] <cwillu> one sec, been a while since I'
[10:50] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[10:50] <cwillu> ve done that
[10:50] <soundray> kazil: yes, there is. NTFS is read-only though
[10:50] <solid_liq> kazil: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[10:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about mountwindows
[10:50] <cwillu> a yes
[10:50] <thoreauputic> !windowsdrives
[10:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:50] <solid_liq> kazil: mount should autodetect the fs type; if not, mount -t ntfs /dev/blah
[10:50] <Ademan> I didnt even think about this, but firefox has its OWN themes... so i wonder if they take precidence, and so if it wanted to retain its own themes it would hafta do its own drawing/blitting without gtk
[10:50] <kazil> so locate song.mp3 would gimme the location of song.mp3?
[10:50] <cwillu> kazil:  or locate piece-of-song-name
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Ademan: afaiks FF themes take precedence, yes
[10:51] <solid_liq> Ademan: I believe so, but firefox (if built to) does use gtk for its rendering of widgets
[10:51] <thoreauputic> *cough* afaics
[10:51] <cwillu> kazil: updatedb runs every night automatically to keep the indices up to date, so if you install something new, you'd have to 'sudo updatedb' first
[10:51] <kazil> does it automatically jump to that location?
[10:51] <cwillu> (or wait a day)
[10:51] <cwillu> try it and see
[10:51] <soundray> kazil: no
[10:51] <Ademan> solid_liq: even in the default build? because it really doesnt seem to be doing so, but i'll try restarting firefox... see if that does it (and yeah, i've had firefox-gnome-support since the beggining
[10:52] <solid_liq> no, updatedb is old school
[10:52] <soundray> kazil: that wouldn't make sense, because copies of your song could be in multiple locations.
[10:52] <soundray> kazil: or other files of the same name
[10:52] <cwillu> soundray: you can do evil stuff with that too
[10:52] <solid_liq> Ademan: I don't know how they built it, but I've built it from source before and gtk was one of the config options; otherwise it just talks to X directly
[10:52] <soundray> kazil: if you want to find something on your Windows partition, you have to run "sudo updatedb" before locate (to update the index)
[10:52] <nemoo> solid_liq: a new method instead of updatedb ???
[10:53] <nemoo> crontab + updatedb ???
[10:53] <nemoo> he he
[10:53] <solid_liq> nemoo: that's what beagle and friends are for
[10:53] <soundray> cwillu: I'm not following...
[10:53] <cwillu> nah, locate still has its uses
[10:53] <nemoo> beagle sometime wont work smoothly
[10:53] <solid_liq> nemoo: but I don't think there's a really good alternative quite yet
[10:53] <raphink> solid_liq: no thanks, I care about my computer being able to run things I need and not get borked with beagled
[10:53] <cwillu> soundray: gedit `locate xorg.conf` :)
[10:53] <solid_liq> ;D and that's why
[10:53] <cwillu> (don't actually do it though)
[10:54] <solid_liq> raphink: that's why I don't run it either
[10:54] <raphink> most of the time I use find when I know the file is pretty close
[10:54] <cwillu> solid_liq: it actually works great with the idle_prio kernel patches
[10:54] <solid_liq> or just:   vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf   :D
[10:54] <raphink> otherwise locate on machines that have a cron on it
[10:55] <soundray> cwillu: 'gedit $(locate xorg.conf | head -n 1)'
[10:55] <solid_liq> cwillu: what about with a 4200rpm lappy hd?
[10:55] <cwillu> solid_liq: make it run only in idle cycles, with a low io priority, and you can't even tell it's running other than mem
[10:55] <cwillu> soundray: you're no fun at all, surpassing my evilness like that :)
[10:55] <VladDrac> hi
[10:55] <nemoo> updatedb + locate more slower than find
[10:55] <nemoo> he he
[10:55] <raphink> soundray: find /etc -name xorg.conf | head -n 1 | xargs gedit
[10:55] <raphink> hhe
[10:55] <VladDrac> what's the correct way under dapper/gnome to join a wpa wireless network?
[10:55] <raphink> hehe
[10:55] <cwillu> lol
[10:56] <cwillu> raphink: but that assumes you know it's in etc
[10:56] <VladDrac> through some menu's and settings I manage to find a list of essids, but it only seems to support wep
[10:56] <mhb> hey yall
[10:56] <cwillu> shouldn't have to updatedb usually anyway
[10:56] <raphink> cwillu: that assumes you know conf goes in /etc ;)
[10:56] <raphink> cwillu: but using the cli assumes you know a bit about nix systems ;)
[10:56] <mhb> anyone of you use xterm with local characters?
[10:57] <cwillu> yes, but this is a crash course for a linux noob who just about ran back to windows because he couldn't delete a folder because nobody told him how to use sudo :)
[10:57] <raphink> also assumes you know the xorg conf file is named xorg.conf ;)
[10:57] <soundray> raphink: 'ls -R / | grep xorg.conf | realpath | xargs gedit' :)
[10:57] <raphink> soundray: barbarian
[10:57] <cwillu> really, I'm just throwing out file name that he might be interested in so that he might actually recall the filename at some point
[10:57] <mhb> because the font with Ubuntu looks really ugly when displaying local (non-iso-8559-1) characters
[10:57] <raphink> soundray:
[10:57] <mhb> (xterm)
[10:57] <cwillu> kazil: how goes the mounting?
[10:57] <raphink> soundray: 'ls -R / | grep xorg.conf | grep -v ~ | realpath | xargs gedit'
[10:58] <cwillu> kazil: dumb question, but did you mkdir a folder for the mount first?  (I _think_ you need to do that)
[10:58] <solid_liq> mhb: why don't you search for more fonts?
[10:58] <soundray> raphink: good point
[10:58] <kazil> when: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 mnt/windows result is: mount point mnt/windows does not exist
[10:58] <raphink> soundray: hehe ;)
[10:58] <cwillu> kazil: make sure you've made a folder called windows first
[10:58] <gianni> kazil, try with /mnt/windows, not mnt/windows
[10:58] <kazil> i created in mnt a folder windows
[10:58] <cwillu> and put a slash before that mnt
[10:58] <solid_liq> cwillu: you absolutely must have a preexisting folder to mount on
[10:58] <raphink> kazil: how about creating it?
[10:59] <solid_liq> kazil: it should be /mnt/windows
[10:59] <cwillu> kazil: in ~?
[10:59] <kazil> i did use /mnt/windows
[10:59] <cwillu> okay, then put the slash in that command
[10:59] <mhb> solid_liq: OK, where can I get the same font (like fixed) with good-looking characters?
[10:59] <cwillu> mount /foo/bar /mnt/windows
[10:59] <raphink> kazil: side note : LSB standard says /mnt/ is to be used for temporary mounting, and not as subdirectories
[10:59] <solid_liq> mhb: dunno, I'm american :D
[10:59] <raphink> kazil: according to LSB, youshould use /media/windows instead
[11:00] <cwillu> raphink: thanks, been wondering about that :)
[11:00] <raphink> cwillu: about what?
[11:00] <cwillu> lsb
[11:00] <raphink> ah
[11:00] <cwillu> media vs mnt
[11:00] <mhb> solid_liq: thanks anyway :o)
[11:00] <raphink> cwillu: the doc is public and online :)
[11:00] <kazil> cwillu: yes in ~
[11:00] <cwillu> raphink: and I have a limited memory
[11:00] <kazil> raphink: gonna try that
[11:00] <raphink> cwillu: /mnt is for temporary manual mount, and is not to contain hard subdirs
[11:01] <soundray> kazil: do this: 'sudo mkdir /media/windows ; sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows'
[11:01] <raphink> cwillu: it's made to just "mount /dev/whatever -t whatever /mnt"
[11:01] <thoreauputic> raphink: interesting :)
[11:01] <thoreauputic> raphink: habit made me create some subdirs in /mnt - but I see the point
[11:01] <Ademan> is the gnome configurator in the repositories?
[11:02] <raphink> thoreauputic: yes I know this habbit, used to have it too
[11:02] <gianni> Anybody knows nslookup or dig syntax to get _kerberos record ?
[11:02] <raphink> thoreauputic: now keeping /mnt clean is very useful, too
[11:02] <thoreauputic> raphink: :)
[11:02] <kazil> soundray: /media/windows allready exists
[11:02] <Daniel0> is there no compiler installed by default?
[11:02] <raphink> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB
[11:02] <omodo> Hi. What's the .gtk-rc file for Ubuntu?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> raphink: yes, I can see that
[11:02] <Guardian> hello
[11:02] <raphink> Daniel0: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:02] <Daniel0> ok thanks
[11:02] <kazil> soundray: the mount doesn`t work
[11:02] <soundray> Ademan: do you mean gconf-editor ?
[11:02] <cwillu> kazil, other interested parties:  any chance it's already mounted?
[11:02] <Guardian> what do you use when you want to backup stuff ??? backup script that builds a tarball ???
[11:02] <kazil> neither for mnt neiter for media
[11:02] <Ademan> soundray: possibly?
[11:02] <Lukian> What port does cups run on?
[11:03] <cwillu> kazil: cd to that directory and do an 'ls'
[11:03] <Lukian> (for http interface)
[11:03] <kazil> i don`t think so, but maybe...
[11:03] <solid_liq> gianni: kerberos records aren't available from dns server or from whois servers
[11:03] <soundray> Ademan: it's a standard part of gnome. Just enter it after Alt-F2
[11:03] <Avochelm> hi. i just installed ubuntu 6.06 alternative. i remember typing in a password for the default user but i don't remember choosing a user name. what would the default user name be?
[11:03] <soundray> Avochelm: ubuntu, probably.
[11:03] <raphink> Lukian: 631
[11:03] <omodo> I tried putting .gtkrc-2.0 in my home directory, but it didn't work.
[11:03] <gianni> solid_liq, really ?
[11:04] <solid_liq> gianni: yep
[11:04] <raphink> Lukian: grep ipp /etc/services
[11:04] <Ademan> soundray: no not that, http://freshmeat.net/projects/confgnome/
[11:04] <raphink> Lukian: although you can easily change that in cupsd.conf
[11:04] <soundray> Avochelm: if you can't figure it out, boot in recovery mode and run 'grep 1000 /etc/passwd'
[11:04] <gianni> solid_liq, please take a look at this http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/01mar/I-D/krb-wg-krb-dns-locate-02.txt
[11:05] <Ademan> its not under confgnome
[11:05] <Lukian> raphink: I'm wondering how to check the ink out / levels on Epson printers
[11:05] <Avochelm> soundray, thanks, i'll give that a try
[11:05] <raphink> Lukian: there's an epson tools package
[11:05] <cwillu> Ademan: you're not looking for gconf-editor are you?
[11:05] <Yonda> I've just installed Network Manager, and it hasnt appeared anywhere...How can I run it?
[11:05] <kazil> mounted it, but can`t access it...
[11:05] <cwillu> Ademan: i.e., regedit for gnome?
[11:05] <Ademan> cwillu: nope
[11:05] <Lukian> raphink: in the repositories or elsewhere?
[11:05] <cwillu> k
[11:05] <Ademan> thanks though
[11:05] <raphink> Lukian: apt-get search epson
[11:05] <omodo> any other way to configure Gnome? stuff like setting a cursor color?
[11:05] <cwillu> kazil: sudo ls?
[11:05] <raphink> Lukian: iirc it's mtink
[11:06] <raphink> Lukian: graphical even
[11:06] <Ademan> the freshmeat link is what i'm after, i'm just wondering if its in the repositories, otherwise i'll just install from source
[11:06] <raphink> Lukian: mtink - Status monitor and configuration tool for Epson inkjet printers
[11:06] <soundray> Ademan: I don't have a package for that, either. Probably to early in development.
[11:06] <soundray> s/to/too/
[11:06] <raphink> Yonda:should work automatically
[11:06] <kazil> cwillu: yep, everythings there...
[11:07] <Ademan> soundray: eh ok, i just noticed it in a gnome looks screenshot and it looked interesting/useful
[11:07] <Ademan> its no big deal to me
[11:08] <omodo> anyone knows how to set the cursor color for Gnome applications on Dapper?
[11:08] <Yonda> raphink, I have it installed on another machine, and it worked automatically there, but this time nothing has happened...
[11:08] <aspro> hello, does anybody in here know whether the live cd is capable of mounting hfs+ partitions?
[11:08] <Yonda> even though it says its installed...
[11:08] <cwillu> kazil, interested parties:  I think sudo chmod a+r /media/windows/. will make it readable, or is there a magic key to mount needed here too like for smb?
[11:08] <kazil> but still can not acces it neither through file browser, neither with cd...
[11:08] <raphink> Yonda: did you try to relaunch it ?
[11:08] <Yonda> raphink, how do i do that?
[11:08] <soundray> aspro: I think so.
[11:08] <kazil> cwillu: going to try that
[11:08] <thoreauputic> aspro: probably - sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/foo /mnt
[11:09] <aspro> cheers, I'll give it a go
[11:09] <kazil> cwillu: is sudo chmod 777 /media/windows/ the same? it`s easier with numbers for me...
[11:09] <solid_liq> no, mount -t hfs /dev/foo /mnt
[11:09] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: no, wrong
[11:09] <solid_liq> (read man mount)
[11:09] <soundray> thoreauputic: don't you have to manually load a module to be able to read the disklabel?
[11:09] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: its hfsplus
[11:10] <cwillu> kazil: almost;  777 is all permissions to owner, group and everyone else
[11:10] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: then why isn't that listed in the man page for mount?
[11:10] <kazil> i know
[11:10] <cwillu> but doesn't make any practical difference here
[11:10] <Yonda> raphink, How can I relaunch network manager?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: I assure you I have it right - I run ubuntu on an iBook here
[11:10] <cwillu> the a+r would just add read permissions and nothing else
[11:10] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: hmm, well, I've never owned a mac...
[11:10] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: hfs != hfsplus
[11:11] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: right, but hfsplus is not in the man page for mount, just hfs
[11:12] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: just like ntfs from winnt 4 is nothing like ntfs from winxp, it's still just ntfs to mount because the driver takes care of working with the particular version of the filesystem
[11:12] <soundray> solid_liq: it doesn't have to be now, does it? Probably the man page hasn't been updated since hfsplus support was added to the kernel.
[11:12] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: from my fstab:
[11:12] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: /dev/hda3       /media/macosx  hfsplus  users,noauto  0     0
[11:12] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: so I figured it was the same with hfs
[11:12] <cwillu> kazil: if (and when) that doesn't work, it's actually something else you have to put on the mount line (a bit annoying, but typically you'd enter it once into fstab and be done with it)
[11:12] <cwillu> kazil: umount /media/windows to unmound it
[11:13] <bilss> hello
[11:13] <soundray> solid_liq: you figured wrong
[11:13] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: what does mount show it as, the same?
[11:13] <Keyseir> How do I open a passworded rar with default ubuntu apps?
[11:13] <aspro> thoreauputic: worked a charm, thanks! :)
[11:13] <raphink> Yonda: sorryI was awayfor a time. Try  `sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo /usr/sbin/NetworkManager`
[11:13] <Yonda> raphink, thanks ill try that now
[11:13] <raphink> that should launch it again
[11:13] <kazil> it says: read-only file system and nothing happens
[11:14] <soundray> kazil: it's probably mounted now.
[11:14] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: what does mount show for it?
[11:14] <omodo> nobody knows how to set the color of the cursor on Dapper?
[11:14] <farous> raphink: isn't network manager a daemon so /etc/init.d/Networkmanager restart
[11:14] <kazil> need to unmount it first?
[11:14] <Keyseir> how do I input the password i want to open a .rar file with using ubuntu default stuff?
[11:14] <raphink> farous: I don't think so
[11:14] <gianni> Keyseir, try with unrar-non free package
[11:14] <solid_liq> omodo: you just have to set a different cursor
[11:14] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: hang on - patience - I'm doing other stuff here
[11:14] <soundray> !rar
[11:14] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:14] <Keyseir> gianni: ok, thx.
[11:14] <bilss> want to ask about building a package from source.  I was told that if you download the source package to /opt then theres no need to set environment variables as you would in the normal way, is this true?
[11:14] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: you just type mount by itself
[11:14] <raphink> farous: I don't have an entry in /etc/init.d although it'd be logical
[11:14] <omodo> solid_liq: how?  my custom .gtkrc gets ignored.
[11:14] <sdfsfd> yo
[11:15] <solid_liq> omodo: dunno I use kde
[11:15] <sdfsfd> hey
[11:15] <sdfsfd> wut up
[11:15] <omodo> solid_liq: thnx anyway
[11:15] <gianni> !dns
[11:15] <raphink> solid_liq: good :)
[11:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about dns
[11:15] <cwillu> kazil: ?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: gee whizz - I never knew that </sarcasm>
[11:15] <gianni> :/
[11:15] <solid_liq> bilss: no
[11:15] <sdfsfd> u guys like breaks?
[11:15] <cwillu> kazil: umount /media/windows
[11:15] <farous> raphink: if i did not purge it i would have checked it again :)
[11:15] <cwillu> kazil:  then take the command you ran before
[11:15] <raphink> farous: hehe
[11:15] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: /dev/hda3 on /media/macosx type hfsplus (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:15] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: happy ?
[11:16] <Yonda> raphink, I tried that in terminal, and it complied with no errors, but i still cant see it anywhere:S
[11:16] <bilss> solid_liq: thanks someone was very wrong
[11:16] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: no :D
[11:16] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: :D
[11:16] <xice> can anyone help with VMware server errors??
[11:16] <kazil> cwillu: which command?
[11:16] <cwillu> kazil: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows -o dmask=0777,fmask=0777
[11:17] <bilss> so whats the big issue about downloading a source file to opt rather than src?
[11:17] <Keyseir> Where do I get the latest ubuntu sources?
[11:17] <solid_liq> bilss: yeah, you always have to set your environment variables no matter what, there's no magical autosetting of them based on PWD to confuse you
[11:17] <kazil> just a sec
[11:17] <Yonda> raphink, Do you think I should try rebooting or something? I'm not sure...
[11:17] <cwillu> kazil: I don't have a local windows partition to test it on, but it works with the remote share, and is listed in a few forum articles for use with local ntfs mounts
[11:17] <solid_liq> bilss: make sure to set -march= appropriately too, and use -O2 or -Os
[11:18] <raphink> Yonda: I doubt it'll fix it
[11:18] <harm> how do i connect to IRC via a proxy using Xchat
[11:18] <solid_liq> bilss: that's plain stupid.  You should download the source to a directory under your home directory.  make install   is what will place the built application in /opt or /usr or wherever
[11:19] <bilss> solid_lig: -march= and use -02 or -0s  any suggested reading on this
[11:19] <solid_liq> bilss: and ./configure will allow you to set where it goes
[11:19] <bilss> yes the configure you can direct it to where it needs to go
[11:19] <gianni> harm, go to Settings Menu, Preferences, Network
[11:19] <solid_liq> bilss: man gcc, then type /march=  and read
[11:19] <cwillu> kazil: btw, man <command or filename> is your friend :)
[11:20] <cwillu> i.e., man mount
[11:20] <harm> gianni dont see that
[11:20] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: you're a gentoo refugee, aren't you ? *g*
[11:20] <solid_liq> bilss: -O2 means a safe level of optimization, -Os is slightly less safe optimization without using optimizations that increase the final size of the binary
[11:20] <harm> gianna u mean Edit > Pref. > Network?
[11:21] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: heheh, yep
[11:21] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: I never would have guessed... *g*
[11:21] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: slackware before that, redhat before that, mandrake before that, redhat again before that :D
[11:21] <kazil> cwillu: with dmask and fmask doesn`t work...
[11:21] <Kipps> ew mandrake
[11:21] <Kipps> can't say i've ever gotten along with mandrake
[11:21] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: never much liked debian because it's so out of date
[11:21] <kazil> going for a manual :)
[11:22] <cwillu> kazil: what does ls -l say in the /media directory about the permissions?
[11:22] <solid_liq> Kipps: I'm not big on mandrake either :D
[11:22] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: really? I started on pdp-11 and IBM360 with punch cards
[11:22] <solid_liq> Kipps: but that was like version 7.1 I used I think
[11:22] <thoreauputic> ;D
[11:22] <Kipps> always had problems with the mandrake installer hanging or whatever
[11:22] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: erm, I was talking about linux distros ;)
[11:22] <Kipps> every other distro seemed to work just fine
[11:22] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: whippersnapper
[11:23] <cwillu> kazil: did you umount it first?
[11:23] <solid_liq> I started with Apple ] [c though
[11:23] <apokryphos> Kipps: mandriva kinda sucks unfortunately
[11:23] <Yonda> Are there any other wireless managers that support WPA?
[11:24] <solid_liq> ...then Radio Shack 100, then Tandy 102, then Zenith Data Systems 8088...
[11:24] <solid_liq> Yonda: vim with wpasupplicant ;)
[11:24] <kazil> cwillu: with dmask&fmask permissions are NONE, not even the first r and x
[11:24] <cwillu> kazil: did you umount it first?
[11:24] <kazil> without masks there is the first r and x
[11:24] <gianni> harm, what is your X-Chat version number ?
[11:25] <kazil> yes i did
[11:25] <farous> apokryphos: when i used mandriva it was really good. But now that i know better any rpm based distro sucks
[11:25] <Yonda> solid_liq, it seems i already have that installed...how can I configure it?
[11:25] <farous> apt rule bottom line
[11:25] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: oh, I also happen to be a C++ software engineer :P
[11:25] <solid_liq> Yonda: it's in /etc/networking
[11:25] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: congratulations
[11:26] <Yonda> solid_liq, thanks
[11:26] <cwillu> try -o ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333
[11:26] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: I meant as far as the compiling stuff is concerned :D
[11:26] <kazil> anywayz whats this fmask, dmask?
[11:26] <cwillu> kazil: it sets the permissions on file and folder access on the mount
[11:27] <kazil> i see... and the ro?
[11:27] <cwillu> readonly
[11:27] <cwillu> which might have to be specified when we're listing options
[11:27] <solid_liq> anyone have a wo filesystem? :D
[11:28] <cwillu> solid_liq: could be handy;  akin to emailing something
[11:28] <solid_liq> rw is read/write btw
[11:28] <solid_liq> cwillu: yep
[11:28] <pekay> how do I get OSS support ?
[11:28] <solid_liq> cwillu: or as a data dump for employees who aren't allowed to change something once they've written it
[11:29] <cwillu> I wanna mount /media/email write only so I can echo foo>/media/email/foo@bar.com
[11:29] <Yonda> solid_liq according to the wiki, there should be a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file, however that file isnt there...
[11:29] <apokryphos> pekay: what exactly do you mean? Support for OSS apps?
[11:29] <compengi> how do i open a new server on xchat
[11:29] <compengi> ?
[11:29] <solid_liq> pekay: use the alsa-oss emulation
[11:29] <solid_liq> Yonda: did you apt-get install wpasupplicant?
[11:29] <pekay> apokryphos: mmm i think, well Cedega says OSS doesnt work, Alsa does yet if I run Steam with alsa, no sound lol
[11:29] <kazil> it lives! hurray!
[11:29] <cwillu> hip hip!
[11:29] <Yonda> solid_liq, yes I did
[11:29] <cwillu> kazil: now, that will go away the next time you reboot :)
[11:30] <solid_liq> hmmm
[11:30] <apokryphos> oh, the sound server
[11:30] <farous> pekay: oss do not support sound mixing something else is using your sound card
[11:30] <cwillu> what you _really_ want to do is put a similar line in /etc/fstab
[11:30] <pekay> hum
[11:30] <bilss> solid_lig: thanks for the feedback on source packages for me the most important points are knowing where to install to at ./configure and how to set the  environmental variables
[11:30] <kazil> and i don`t need to mount every time?
[11:30] <farous> pekay: for sound mixing with oss applications and using alsa as sound server install alsa-oss
[11:30] <cwillu> exactly
[11:30] <Yonda> "wpasupplicant is already the newest version."
[11:30] <kazil> i`ll do anything to avoid that!
[11:31] <solid_liq> bilss: type ./configure --help and read that for the config options
[11:31] <farous> pekay: then run the application therough the wrapper aoss /usr/bin/applname
[11:31] <pekay> farous: ah using "aoss cedega" i guess :p
[11:31] <kazil> gimme the instructions, o great one!
[11:31] <pekay> aew thanks
[11:31] <pekay> :[
[11:31] <pekay> :] *
[11:31] <cwillu> kazil: /foo/bar /media/windows ntfs auto,ro,dmask=0   0   0
[11:31] <farous> :)
[11:31] <solid_liq> bilss: and you may only need to set CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, but it depends on what you're building
[11:31] <kazil> just that?
[11:31] <cwillu> kazil: using your uber sudo editing powers you learned before to edit /etc/fstab and put that line in :)
[11:31] <farous> pekay: check if you have /dev/dsp first
[11:32] <cwillu> s/earned/learned/
[11:32] <pekay> farous: test failed again for OSS, no /dev/dsp not there
[11:32] <kazil> not that bloody vi again
[11:32] <cwillu> kazil: double check that it doesn't have a similar line already
[11:32] <farous> pekay give me a min
[11:32] <cwillu> kazil: use gedit :)
[11:32] <pekay> oki
[11:32] <cwillu> sudo gedit filename
[11:33] <solid_liq> kazil: what's wrong with vim? too powerful? ;)
[11:33] <paramed> I'm back..
[11:33] <paramed> sorry.. had to run out there..
[11:33] <paramed> so.. who can help me with readpst?
[11:33] <cwillu> solid_liq: don't go there;  we've already been there, and I just about got kicked from the channel :)
[11:33] <inc^^> After installing XGL, it worked, but when I ran xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fi -most of the shortcuts stopped working
[11:33] <solid_liq> cwillu: :D
[11:33] <farous> pekay: ok sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[11:33] <farous> then check the /dev/dsp again
[11:33] <inc^^> like I can't move windows by holding ALT and dragging them
[11:33] <cwillu> solid_liq, kazil:  don't worry, I think kazil already left for the other machine anyway
[11:33] <apokryphos> inc^^: how are you specifying your shortcuts? Could you pastebin it?
[11:34] <kazil> so... sudo vi /etc/fstab ? add /foo/bar /media/windows ntfs auto,ro,dmask=0   0   0 ?
[11:34] <kazil> i`m still here :P
[11:34] <solid_liq> cwillu: he doesn't know about ssh?
[11:34] <kazil> you won`t get rid of me that easily :P
[11:34] <inc^^> apokryphos: I just followed the guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148860&highlight=xgl+kde
[11:34] <cwillu> solid_liq: I was leading up to it via vi, actually :)
[11:34] <cwillu> kazil: use gedit instead of vi
[11:34] <solid_liq> kazil: you know ssh, right?
[11:34] <cwillu> solid_liq: he doesn't have network access on that machine yet
[11:34] <kazil> well ss was hitlers police in the WW2 :D
[11:34] <farous> pekay: iwana return to my cv man :) so did you get your /dev/dsp yet
[11:34] <solid_liq> cwillu: oic
[11:34] <apokryphos> inc^^: how are you specifying your shortcuts? Could you pastebin it?
[11:35] <pekay> farous: errr just asked for pass and thats it
[11:35] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: the guy is new - stop overwhelming the poor chap with your l33t sk1llz
[11:35] <pekay> :/
[11:35] <cwillu> kazil: ssh is textmode remote access (in short)
[11:35] <thoreauputic> ;)
[11:35] <Yonda> solid_liq, Any other ideas?
[11:35] <solid_liq> thoreauputic: heheh
[11:35] <cwillu> kazil: but yes, type in sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:35] <inc^^> apokryphos: Where do I find those?
[11:35] <apokryphos> inc^^: /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fi
[11:35] <farous> pekay: when you run sudo you have to supply your user passwd. i presume you are the only user on your box
[11:35] <apokryphos> inc^^: .....isn't that what you said you're using?
[11:35] <cwillu> kazil: alternatively gksudo would also work, but we'll leave that alone for now :)
[11:35] <kazil> now you can talk behind my back :P
[11:35] <inc^^> apokryphos: Yes.
[11:36] <pekay> farous: yeh
[11:36] <sdfsfd> why isnt there a packag efor winelib anymore
[11:36] <farous> and nothing will be returned after you execute the command. this is fine means everything is ok
[11:36] <solid_liq> doesn't having to type sudo all the time confuse beginners?
[11:36] <medulla> ok... i think i have all my codecs installed correctly... but can anyone help me with my file type associations...??
[11:36] <solid_liq> or annoy them?
[11:36] <farous> pekay: no after you finish ls /dev/dsp
[11:36] <cwillu> solid_liq: of course :)
[11:36] <solid_liq> cwillu: so why not just teach them sudo passwd
[11:36] <solid_liq> :D
[11:37] <pekay> farous
[11:37] <pekay> pekay@pekay-desktop:~$ ls /dev/dsp
[11:37] <pekay> /dev/dsp
[11:37] <johnZay> Is there a command in terminal to list hardware?
[11:37] <cwillu> better to get the idea of running individual commands rather than starting and leaving root shells lying around\
[11:37] <farous> pekay: you got it then
[11:37] <pekay> ;o
[11:37] <sdfsfd> cd win
[11:37] <inc^^> Pastebin is not working
[11:37] <thoreauputic> solid_liq: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:37] <inc^^> apokryphos: I got only Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php:243)
[11:37] <solid_liq> johnZay: lspci
[11:37] <cwillu> solid_liq: sudo -s works as well
[11:37] <farous> pekay: now so this problem do not appear again do the following
[11:37] <johnZay> lthanks :-0
[11:37] <blackline> Is there any config-tool or such I can go to set up the standard of having icon for "Home", "Wastebin", "This computer", etc? my desktop is empty.
[11:37] <solid_liq> johnZay: and lsusb
[11:37] <inc^^> seems like they forgot output buffering
[11:37] <apokryphos> inc^^: waht, when do you get that?
[11:37] <inc^^> apokryphos: Pastebin.com is broken
[11:38] <farous> pekay: sudo gedit /etc/modules a file will open at the end in a new line type snd_pcm_oss
[11:38] <apokryphos> inc^^: use the pastebin in /topic then
[11:38] <farous> pekay: then close the file
[11:38] <cwillu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org should work
[11:38] <inc^^> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16165
[11:38] <medulla> file type association help plx?
[11:39] <cwillu> medulla: more specifically?
[11:39] <medulla> i pretty much never wanna use totem again...
[11:39] <medulla> for my video files
[11:39] <spikeb> well
[11:39] <apokryphos> medulla: /msg ubotu default
[11:39] <farous> medulla: ?
[11:39] <Arafangion> medulla: You're not making much sense here.
[11:39] <solid_liq> medulla: I like kaffeine for that
[11:39] <medulla> ?
[11:39] <apokryphos> Arafangion: file associations = default application for a filetype
[11:39] <medulla> yes...
[11:39] <farous> medulla: downgrade totem if you have problems with it. I had some prob and dwongrading solved it
[11:39] <apokryphos> medulla: type /msg ubotu defaultapp, then
[11:39] <cwillu> !default
[11:39] <pekay> farous: have I gotta reboot for that?
[11:39] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[11:40] <farous> pekay: no you are good go ahead and use cedega
[11:40] <johnZay> lpci listed my add on hardware but ts there a command which shows my cpyu etc?
[11:40] <medulla> well i just dont want my files to open up with totem when i double click them...
[11:40] <farous> pekay: it will not compalin now
[11:40] <kazil> instead of /foo/bar need to type /dev/hda2?
[11:40] <Arafangion> apokryphos: Perhaps a "How do I change the program to open a file X?"
[11:40] <medulla> and want to know how to change it permanently...
[11:40] <spikeb> johnZay: you can use cat /proc/cpuinfo for cpu info
[11:40] <spikeb> medulla: that will change it perm
[11:40] <Arafangion> apokryphos: Not just "File type association please", that's about the same as "Linux help please" or "bash help please", etc.
[11:40] <farous> medulla: right mouse click > open with> select your preferred appl
[11:41] <pekay> farous: meh, still coming up as failed :/
[11:41] <johnZay> is there anything that justoutputs everything?
[11:41] <apokryphos> Arafangion: no, it's not; if you know what's meant by it then it's fine. KDE refers to it as file associations, for example.
[11:41] <blackline> anyone. how do i get the wastebin on my desktop?
[11:41] <medulla> welll i said more before... but nobody responded...  =/
[11:41] <kazil> cwillu: instead of /foo/bar need to type /dev/hda2?
[11:41] <cwillu> yes
[11:41] <kazil> thx
[11:41] <farous> pekay: are you running another appl that is using the sound
[11:41] <cwillu> making you work for it :)
[11:41] <apokryphos> blackline: /msg ubotu icons
[11:41] <medulla> what media player is everyone using?
[11:41] <apokryphos> kaffeine
[11:41] <inc^^> amarok/kaffeine
[11:42] <spikeb> i use totem, i can usually beat it into submission
[11:42] <medulla> lol
[11:42] <blackline> apokryphos - what, should i write that in terminal?
[11:42] <johnZay> I know there's a command that lists all hardware... i just can't remember what it is
[11:42] <apokryphos> medulla: anything with xine is generally good
[11:42] <apokryphos> blackline: nope, write that in here
[11:42] <johnZay> arrggg
[11:42] <cwillu> apokryphos: type that in here
[11:42] <farous> pekay: close any prog that uses your card then type. cat /usr/share/sounds/gaim/arrive.wav
[11:42] <spikeb> totem-xine, baby
[11:42] <blackline> medulla i started using amarok yesterday and i love it..
[11:42] <farous> pekay: sorry wait
[11:42] <solid_liq> kaffeine/amarok
[11:42] <kazil> added, reboot to see it work?
[11:42] <cwillu> does ubotu know about tells right now?
[11:42] <farous> pekay: close any prog that uses your card then type. cat /usr/share/sounds/gaim/arrive.wav > /dev/dsp
[11:42] <cwillu> !tell cwillu about stuff
[11:42] <paramed> ok.. I have run readpst... and it does not convert my PST file.. it gives the following error:
[11:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about stuff
[11:43] <medulla> has anyone had success with vlc?
[11:43] <paramed> Opening PST file and indexes...
[11:43] <paramed> debug_fp is NULL
[11:43] <paramed> unknown index structure. Could this be a new Outlook 2003 PST file?
[11:43] <paramed> debug_fp is NULL
[11:43] <paramed> Error opening File
[11:43] <apokryphos> johnZay: lspci for pci devices
[11:43] <blackline> apokryphos thanks
[11:43] <paramed> any ideas?
[11:43] <medulla> i know it was pretty useful in windows...
[11:43] <solid_liq> oh and mpc/mpd is cool for music too :D
[11:43] <apokryphos> paramed: do not paste in here.
[11:43] <farous> vlc running perfect here
[11:43] <cwillu> medulla: I like it
[11:43] <paramed> sorry.. didnt know I can't... sorry
[11:43] <blackline> medulla i use vlc for movies, only
[11:43] <medulla> ya
[11:43] <apokryphos> cwillu: he does, yes.
[11:44] <inc^^> so, what is wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16165 My left alt is not working at all
[11:44] <cwillu> apokryphos: okay;  ubotu wasn't feeling well this morning, so I wasn't sure :)
[11:44] <medulla> i have a NTFS harddrive with all my movies on it... is there any stable for to write to it out?
[11:44] <apokryphos> cwillu: there's been a transition; he's a different bot, now :)
[11:44] <apokryphos> medulla: nope
[11:44] <cwillu> so I hear :)
[11:44] <johnZay> its not just pci devices i want.... I want pci, cpu, hard disk etc all listed in the terminal. I know there's a command to do it 'cos I've seen it before
[11:44] <paramed> any ideas with readpst?
[11:45] <Yonda> I've installed wpasupplicant but there is no /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf!
[11:45] <cwillu> kazil: once you've got that line in there, ubuntu will mount it automaticall at bootup.  To test it first though, umount the share, and then run 'mount -a';  it'll remount anything in fstab that isn't mounted, and thereby test the new line
[11:45] <farous> Yonda: then you create one
[11:45] <farous> Yonda: there should be a demo one though
[11:45] <solid_liq> medulla: huh?
[11:45] <neilbags> Yonda: is there a wpa_supplicant.conf.sample?
[11:45] <apokryphos> johnZay: hwinfo
[11:46] <Yonda> neilbags, no there isnt
[11:46] <solid_liq> johnZay: a script will do it.  That other information is in /proc, like /proc/cpuinfo
[11:46] <Lusse> hello
[11:46] <pekay> fer: yeah got this weird noise :p
[11:46] <neilbags> Yonda: there might be one is /usr/share/doc, else read the man page
[11:46] <farous> Yonda: check in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant
[11:46] <BCK> anyone know of a good program to sort out your music ?
[11:46] <medulla> sorry... i typed that really wrong... iv been up for 35 hours, is there any stable program that will let me write to a NTFS harddrive...
[11:46] <pekay> farous*: yeah got this weird noise :p
[11:46] <farous> pekay: then it is working
[11:46] <thoreauputic> medulla: short answer is no
[11:47] <pekay> wooo!
[11:47] <pekay> thanks
[11:47] <farous> pekay instead of cat try aplay
[11:47] <LondoMollari> hey anyone tried to install google earth, but got "segmentation fault" right after the splash screen?
[11:47] <kazil> cwillu: works OK! thanx man :)
[11:47] <farous> pekay: will give you better sound
[11:47] <thoreauputic> medulla: long answer is captive ntfs but it doesn't ework on Ubuntu
[11:47] <pekay> must have been firefox with the aoss for flash
[11:47] <solid_liq> medulla: the "EXPIRIMENTAL" write support available in the Linux kernel... You may have to build your own kernel for that, though
[11:47] <Yonda> neilbags, farous, thanks, ill try and make one myself then
[11:47] <cwillu> medulla: not officially;  there's limited but semi unsupported write support in the kernel if you build it in;  much better support but needing windows dll's is the captivefs package, which doesn't work out of the box in dapper I believe
[11:47] <cwillu> kazil: yay :)
[11:47] <pekay> pekay@pekay-desktop:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/gaim/arrive.wav > /dev/dsp
[11:47] <pekay> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[11:47] <pekay> aplay: main:544: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[11:47] <solid_liq> LondoMollari: for the installer? yeah
[11:47] <cwillu> kazil: did you check it via mount -a?
[11:47] <farous> pekay: try cdedga without aoss first as some programs jsut complain of it
[11:47] <cwillu> (umount first, etc)
[11:47] <medulla> ya i figured...
[11:47] <kazil> yes i did :)
[11:47] <johnZay> thanks.. that sound smore relevant :-)
[11:47] <cwillu> woot
[11:47] <pekay> farous: yah, wasnt using aoss this time ;D
[11:48] <medulla> oh well, new partition...
[11:48] <farous> pekay without > /dev/dsp
[11:48] <kazil> w00t :)
[11:48] <LondoMollari> solid_liq: r u using ati drivers?
[11:48] <pekay> ooh, sorry
[11:48] <bilss> soild_lig: you asked me which package at source i will install and setting CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, well its this package (but the source tar)http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/mail/mixmaster
[11:48] <pekay> yah works, farous
[11:48] <solid_liq> LondoMollari: yep :(
[11:48] <cwillu> kazil: next we'll do a compile of a stock kernel.org kernel, patched with the latest stable ck patchset :)
[11:48] <farous> pekay: enjoy then :)
[11:48] <compengi> i was working msn on gaim but i but mistake deleted a group, how can i retaine it
[11:48] <cwillu> I really really hope those get into the mainline eventually :)
[11:49] <Yonda> neilbags, really all i want is network manager working! But it doesnt appear after installing..
[11:49] <solid_liq> cwillu: why the ck patchset?
[11:49] <pekay> aha thanks so much farous
[11:49] <pekay> =)
[11:49] <kazil> cwillu: but first we will pretend that i know what have you said about that kernel... :D
[11:49] <farous> pekay: urw :)
[11:49] <LondoMollari> solid_liq: and u havent figured out a solution? i think the ati drivers is causing the problem, google earth is designed for fglrx (i think)
[11:49] <cwillu> autoswappiness for me mainly, although the swap prefetching is nice, and the staircase scheduler is great
[11:49] <farous> Yonda: you can alwasy reinstall
[11:49] <Yonda> neilbags, I had wireless working fine when i first installed it, then when i booted up one day, network manager had mysteriously disappeared...I didn't know what to do, so i reinstalled it, and now it doesnt appear...
[11:49] <solid_liq> LondoMollari: maybe, but I haven't had the drive to try to figure it out
[11:50] <farous> LondoMollari: i use it for the free radeon drivers
[11:50] <farous> LondoMollari: i have direct render though
[11:50] <cwillu> stock ubuntu kernel gives me trouble when I set swappiness=0, and I can't stand 2.6's default behaviour (mozilla is too big to be swapping out just because I ran updatedb)
[11:50] <johnZay> What's XGL?
[11:50] <Blaze^^> !grub
[11:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[11:50] <solid_liq> LondoMollari: my lappy's ati chipset sucks, so...
[11:50] <cwillu> !xgl
[11:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:50] <Yonda> farous, I've tried reinstalling but it still doesnt appear!
[11:50] <farous> Yonda: install network-manager-gonme
[11:50] <LondoMollari> farous: i'm not following..
[11:51] <medulla> haha, my friend just asked me what version of IE i was using...
[11:51] <cwillu> solid_liq: did you get any of that?
[11:51] <farous> LondoMollari: google earth working perfect here on the free ati drivers
[11:51] <cwillu> medulla: you can run ie5, 5.5 or 6.0 under wine easily enough :)
[11:51] <Hexidigital_> medulla:: :)
[11:51] <farous> LondoMollari: but i have 3-d accel with the free drivers
[11:51] <solid_liq> cwillu: oh, I see it now :D
[11:51] <apokryphos> medulla: version 6986
[11:51] <LondoMollari> farous: u mean the drivers from ati's website?
[11:51] <solid_liq> hrm
[11:51] <farous> LondoMollari: nope the open source ones
[11:51] <Hexidigital_> medulla:: i'm curious... what was your answer?
[11:51] <medulla> meh... lol id love to go download me some spyware on to a disk and give it to him...
[11:52] <LondoMollari> farous: alright
[11:52] <Yonda> farous, I have now installed it...should it be running now?
[11:52] <solid_liq> well, I'm going to sleep now
[11:52] <solid_liq> later
[11:52] <cwillu> aww
[11:52] <cwillu> no fun
[11:52] <compengi> i was working msn on gaim but i but mistake deleted a group, how can i retaine it
[11:52] <farous> Yonda: logout and in again do not reboot
[11:52] <medulla> i just called him a n00b...
[11:52] <solid_liq> cwillu: I've been up for too long :D
[11:52] <kazil> thx 4 the help everybody, must be going now. i`ll log on next time i want to do something with ubuntu
[11:52] <cwillu> amateur
[11:52] <Yonda> farous, ok ill do that
[11:52] <cwillu> granted, I'm only at hour 20 right now, but still
[11:52] <cwillu> later
[11:52] <solid_liq> cwillu: heheh
[11:52] <solid_liq> later
[11:52] <cwillu> kazil: what else, what else
[11:53] <medulla> w00t 35...
[11:53] <cwillu> gotta play with your screen savers
[11:53] <kazil> cwillu i hope u`ll be here :D
[11:53] <cwillu> but that's not really uber or anything :)
[11:53] <Yonda> farous, yay, its returned! thanks
[11:53] <farous> your welcomed
[11:53] <farous> Yonda: actually all you needed is to stick oneline in your startup programs
[11:53] <cwillu> kazil: kinda sucks that you don't have internet on that machine;  alot of the fun stuff consists of installing new packages
[11:53] <farous> which what teh package did
[11:53] <medulla> its weird when you go to two different shifts for work on two different days, and never sleeping inbetween
[11:54] <cwillu> kazil: and there's only so much on the cd
[11:54] <kazil> cwillu: i know, but the money is the q here... :(
[11:54] <cwillu> kazil: granted, you can download and burn the .deb files onto a cd from the other machine, but that takes away some of the elegant oh-my-word-I-just-installed-apache feel of it
[11:54] <kazil> thats why i`m going to work now...
[11:54] <batte> hi all, i have made a swap partition with gpart .. but the computer says it still has no swap ... how do i connect the partition to the system
[11:54] <cwillu> heh, oh well :)
[11:55] <farous> batte: you need to mount it in /etc/fstab
[11:55] <thoreauputic> batte: try  sudo swapon -a
[11:55] <kazil> by, probably tomorrow in same time
[11:55] <thoreauputic> betty: and waht farous said :)
[11:55] <kazil> i mean bye :)
[11:55] <cwillu> kazil: if you can scrounge up a second network card, you can rig something up :)
[11:55] <cwillu> oh well, ttyl  :)
[11:55] <blackline> Anyone with experience of gdesklets? I would like to change height on the gnomebar, is that possible?
[11:56] <farous> ok later room
[11:56] <cwillu> blackline: right click/properties?
[11:56] <cwillu> (brb)
[11:56] <batte> blackline: i do
[11:56] <KeithWeisshar> is there anyone from terabyte unlimited?
[11:56] <kazil> i could connect ubuntu for a while with this connection, but i don`t have the time (work, studying, etc...)
[11:57] <blackline> cwillu - no, nothing in configuration that i can see..
[11:57] <kazil> when everything`s gonna be ok i`m gonna be dling...
[11:57] <blackline> batte, let me in.
[11:57] <batte> ?
[11:57] <kazil> peace room
[11:57] <cwillu> later
[11:57] <blackline> batte - let me know :)
[11:58] <blackline> batte - you said you knew something about my problem
[11:58] <batte> i said i have some exp with the programm ... :)
[11:58] <batte> i have it running on my desktop
[11:58] <blackline> batte - ok, any experience in changing height in gnomebar?
[11:58] <cwillu> blackline, just checking, but you're clicking on the properties that is between 'add to panel' and 'delete from panel' right?
[11:58] <batte> u have to change it in the config file
[11:59] <batte> blackline:  right klik on the bar and than choose edit config or something like that
[11:59] <batte> it calles show source :)
[12:00] <batte> ts called*
[12:00] <blackline> batte - i can chose "Configure desklet" or "View source" if thats what you mean
[12:00] <batte> Yes view source ... and there is a variable where u can set height
[12:00] <blackline> batte thank you
[12:01] <batte> ps: log in as root to get write permissions
[12:02] <batte> thoreauputic: Still no succes with the swap partition :(
[12:02] <leojay> hi everyone, i want to get the result of the find command but the return value of find is always 0 no matter files are found or not.
[12:02] <thoreauputic> batte: did you make an /etc/fstab entry for it?
[12:02] <Arood> Hello. I have some problems with the display in xubuntu...
[12:03] <Arood> The screen is some pixels to high...
[12:03] <leojay> any idea about get how many files were found?
[12:03] <leojay> thanks
[12:03] <batte> thoreauputic: enlighten it ... how do i make such entry
[12:03] <thoreauputic> batte: something like this line, but with the right partition number for your system
[12:03] <batte> Arood: cant u adjust ur monitor ? :)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:03] <Arood> no :/
[12:04] <Arood> it's to old for that :P
[12:04] <Hexidigital_> Arood:: what kind of graphics card?
[12:05] <batte> thoreauputic: is it possible its calles /dev/dsb3
[12:05] <Arood> well, I don't really know... it's an old laptop from 90-something... I think it can be ati
[12:05] <mdeboer> hi
[12:05] <batte> hallo
[12:06] <leojay> hello
[12:06] <thoreauputic> batte: dsb doesn't make much sense to me - it should be /dev/sd* or /dev/hd* where * is the number
[12:06] <batte> o is see
[12:06] <batte> yes yes
[12:06] <thoreauputic> batte: perhaps it is /dev/sdb*
[12:06] <batte> yes
[12:06] <thoreauputic> like /dev/sdb5
[12:06] <batte> sdb3
[12:06] <thoreauputic> right
[12:07] <thoreauputic> so substitute that
[12:07] <mdeboer> has someone tried to update the dapper kernel to 2.6.17 ? any idea if there are any user-space incompatibilities?
[12:07] <Hexidigital_> mdeboer:: like the space - time continuum? not that i noticed :)
[12:07] <mdeboer> :-) userspace
[12:08] <Hexidigital_> mdeboer:: what kind of space restriction do you have?
[12:08] <someothernick> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:10] <batte> thoreauputic: i think i got it ... only problem permission denied ...
[12:10] <batte> and su wont accept password :s --> weird
[12:10] <thoreauputic> batte: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:10] <thoreauputic> and it wants your password
[12:11] <Hexidigital_> batte:: do not use su (to log in as root), use sudo for superuser
[12:11] <batte> ah ok
[12:11] <thoreauputic> batte: Ubuntu doesn't use su
[12:11] <batte> yes
[12:11] <thoreauputic> at least not for this purpose
[12:11] <batte> i see a list now
[12:11] <thoreauputic> add the line, save the file
[12:11] <thoreauputic> batte: are you using nano?
[12:12] <batte> yes
[12:12] <batte> how do i save? :D
[12:13] <thoreauputic> batte: OK when you have finished, hit ctrl-X to exit and say yes
[12:13] <dibblego> I have a ubuntu vmware image booted on a ubuntu host - I want to kill X on the vmware image, but CTRLALT-F1 kills X on the host - is there another way?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> to save the file
[12:13] <Fluxboxen> Is there a version of flash that will work with ubuntu 64
[12:13] <batte> ok i did that
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Fluxboxen: no, not really
[12:13] <batte> still no swap i think :s
[12:13] <Fluxboxen> :-(
[12:14] <thoreauputic> batte: OK now type  sudo swapon -a
[12:14] <thoreauputic> batte: that should remain silent
[12:14] <thoreauputic> batte: but it should start your swap
[12:14] <NET||abuse> hi all... i have a question about using kismet...
[12:14] <NET||abuse> i need to get it to sweep my office for networks...
[12:14] <NET||abuse> but it's giving out about source
[12:15] <tombs> hi all
[12:15] <NET||abuse> now i've researched source directives on the net
[12:15] <thoreauputic> batte: if you got it right, the swap will start on each boot now
[12:15] <batte> yes its silend
[12:15] <thoreauputic> batte: good
[12:15] <batte> do i have to reboot first?
[12:15] <NET||abuse> and the documentation is increadable ambiguous with very little to no example source=x,x,x examples
[12:15] <thoreauputic> batte: no you don't need to - but if you want to test that swap comes on on boot, you can if you wish
[12:15] <NET||abuse> can anyone help me out with with kismet?
[12:16] <Arood> batte: no solution for my problem?
[12:16] <batte> thoreauputic: but desklet still gave 0/0 with swap
[12:16] <NET||abuse> i'm on a buffalo pcmcia slot wireless card, bcm43xx drivers is what it's running on.
[12:16] <YondaII> I have a computer that I'd like to use a file server, except when it starts, if a keyboard isnt connected it gives an error, and wont continue the boot process - is there anyway to stop it from doing this? I've looked in the BIOS but not found anything...
[12:17] <thoreauputic> batte: what does the "swap" line of    free -m  say ?
[12:17] <batte> Arood: are there much missing pixels?
[12:17] <Hexidigital_> YondaII:: do you have a spare keyboard?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> batte:  free -m should show swap figures
[12:17] <batte> 0000
[12:17] <Arood> it's not missing, the one's missing is down the screen :S
[12:18] <thoreauputic> batte: looks like you didn't create a swap partition after all
[12:18] <batte> thoreauputic: is it possible to make a swap partition on a second HD if u have linux on first HD
[12:18] <thoreauputic> batte: swap is type 82
[12:18] <Ng> batte: yes, you can even have a swap file if you want
[12:18] <thoreauputic> batte: yes
[12:18] <YondaII> Hexidigital_, yes, but I'd prefer not to have it there ..... if i bought a really old/cheap keyboard from a computer swap meet for a dollar or two, could I cut the cord and just have the stub connected, or does it somehow check to see if its there?
[12:19] <batte> maybe i can create a swap file .. would that be easyer?
[12:19] <Ng> YondaII: if the bios really doesn't have an option to disable the error reporting on boot then you're going to need a keyboard plugged in, I don't think cutting the cord will help ;)
[12:19] <thoreauputic> batte: didn't th install make a swap for you?
[12:19] <Hexidigital_> YondaII:: no, it actually checks for a keyboard... if you have a crappy spare, use that, but you definitely (if you cannot find in BIOS) need a board connected
[12:19] <batte> nowp ... i guess something went wrong ... i have dual boot
[12:19] <YondaII> ok thanks guys
[12:20] <thoreauputic> batte: how did you end up without a swap partition?
[12:20] <batte> lol, good qwestion :)
[12:20] <Hexidigital_> thoreauputic:: maybe he hit control + c instead of x?
[12:20] <FeeR^> anyone able to get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital_: hmm
[12:20] <batte> Hexidigital_: i maybe stupid, but comon :)
[12:20] <thoreauputic> batte: did nano ask you to say yes to writing the file (fstab) ?
[12:21] <Hexidigital_> batte:: :) just trying to cover all the bases
[12:21] <batte> thoreauputic: yes ... in dutch it was "Ja" :)
[12:21] <Hexidigital_> batte:: i said that because i do it all the time
[12:21] <thoreauputic> batte: OK :)
[12:21] <chido> Hi! what do I have to install to whatch windows media files from the internet?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital_: "n00b" *grin*
[12:21] <Hexidigital_> thoreauputic:: :)
[12:22] <thoreauputic> :D
[12:22] <Ng> !tell chido about restrictedformats
[12:23] <Ng> chido: if ubotu didn't just message you, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:23] <michael_> Heelooooo allll
[12:24] <batte> someone is happy
[12:24] <apokryphos> Ng: tell should work fine
[12:24] <chido> cool thx guys
[12:24] <Arood> batte: here's an illustration of how it looks like: http://server.aroodonline.net/~arood/xubuntu.png
[12:24] <Ng> apokryphos: it doesn't seem to for me, or at least it's not messaging me with confirmation of what it did, like it used to
[12:24] <Ng> !tell Ng about ubotu
[12:24] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: it doesn't seem to echo it into /msg the way the old ubotudid
[12:24] <apokryphos> Ng: yes, no confirmation.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> *ubotu did
[12:25] <batte> Arood: u mean the top and bottom pixels?
[12:25] <Ng> apokryphos: are the confirmations coming back? I think they're quite useful
[12:25] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: no confirmation is a regression, in my opinion :)
[12:25] <Arood> yeah
[12:25] <dibblego> build-essentials
[12:25] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: Ng: suggest it to seveas in -offtopic
[12:25] <dibblego> !build-essentials
[12:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about build-essentials
[12:25] <thoreauputic> !build-essential
[12:25] <apokryphos> I like no !tell responses in here from ubotu, but in /msg they'd be a good idea, yeah
[12:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[12:25] <dibblego> gah thanks
[12:26] <Arood> batte: yes
[12:26] <Hexidigital_> apokryphos:: or a response with !tell if an error occurs?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: the problem is you have no idea whether it worked or not
[12:26] <batte> Arood: i think its weird u cant adjust it with ur screen
[12:26] <apokryphos> Hexidigital_: he does /msg if there was an error, yeah
[12:26] <batte> are there no buttons on the screen?
[12:26] <wthww> i have a question
[12:26] <thoreauputic> yes, at least an error ( eg if the recipient isn't registered)
[12:26] <Hexidigital_> apokryphos:: ah, i thought it was broken completely
[12:26] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: if you know that he'll give you an error message if it didn't work, yeah, but it's not intuitive to new users.
[12:26] <wthww> Does ubuntu have good modem support?
[12:27] <Arood> batte: nope, just an on/off button
[12:27] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I'm a newbie again ;)
[12:27] <apokryphos> =)
[12:27] <batte> Arood: maybe try other resolution
[12:27] <Hexidigital_> thoreauputic:: *n00b* *grin*
[12:27] <Arood> batte: tried, didn't work
[12:27] <Hexidigital_> lol
[12:27] <thoreauputic> :D
[12:28] <Cainus> hey...can anyone tell me what to do when apt-get can't find a package it's supposed to?
[12:28] <michael_> Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:28] <batte> Arood: I hvae no idea .. sorry
[12:28] <Hexidigital_> Cainus:: apt-search
[12:28] <Arood> batte: crap :P
[12:28] <batte> Arood:  im noob u see
[12:28] <apokryphos> Cainus: set up the relevant repositories. See the FAQ
[12:28] <Arood> ^^
[12:28] <apokryphos> Hexidigital_: apt-cache search ;-)
[12:28] <SVisor> !apt-get
[12:28] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[12:28] <Hexidigital_> yes, that
[12:29] <bitox> anyone know anything about raid in here?
[12:29] <bitox> i need some help
[12:29] <Hexidigital_> apokryphos:: the n00b virus has me today
[12:29] <batte> Arood: I even managed to create linux w/ a swap partition
[12:29] <Arood> haha
[12:29] <Hexidigital_> Cainus:: apt-cache search
[12:29] <Arood> (^_^)b
[12:29] <Cainus> k thanks guys :)
[12:29] <jnoon> anyone try xen on ubuntu?
[12:30] <Hexidigital_> thoreauputic:: i think alcohol is the reason for my problems today... it was a LONG night last night :-D
[12:30] <zubeen> jnoon:what is xen
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Hexidigital_: ah, I see :)
[12:30] <batte> Hexidigital_: and i aint even weekend :)
[12:30] <apokryphos> !xen
[12:30] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[12:30] <jnoon> there ya go
[12:30] <jnoon> i was about to have to type all that :)
[12:31] <omodo> ok, I'm trying to install a network printer produced by an obscure manufacturer.
[12:31] <SVisor> !ubotu knows it all
[12:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu knows it all
[12:31] <omodo> it's Develop 1650id
[12:31] <Hexidigital_> batte:: i was preparing for a speech i have to give today
[12:31] <batte> lol preparing for "after the speech" :)
[12:32] <omodo> I couldn't find the needed driver in the default list, nor by googling.
[12:32] <omodo> anyone has any suggestions?
[12:32] <omodo> would the NT/XP driver be of any help?
[12:32] <Hexidigital_> omodo:: no, .exe files do not work
[12:32] <batte> omodo: buy a new printer a local store for a few dollar
[12:32] <omodo> (these are the only platforms they seem to barely support)
[12:32] <Hexidigital_> !printer
[12:32] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:33] <omodo> batte: it's my office full-sized laser printer
[12:33] <Hexidigital_> omodo:: try linuxprinting.org
[12:33] <omodo> thanks, I will
[12:33] <batte> omodo:  aaah ooops
[12:33] <omodo> why they picked an obscure Romanian manufacturer is much beyond me.
[12:33] <inc^^> Could anybody help me with this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201020
[12:33] <omodo> they don't heven have an english website, for goodness' sake.
[12:34] <Hexidigital_> omodo:: probably to save some finances?
[12:34] <omodo> Hexidigital_: might be.
[12:34] <george_looney> hello people
[12:34] <omodo> it still cost a fortune, I'd bet.
[12:34] <omodo> the thing is huge.
[12:34] <omodo> just the cost of material would be staggering :P
[12:34] <SVisor> omodo: I would guess its PS printer, look for the PPD file in your NT driver CD
[12:35] <george_looney> can anyone tell me where I can give my feedback regarding a package in the Universe section?
[12:35] <omodo> SVisor: good idea. thanks.
[12:35] <Hexidigital_> george_looney:: a bug?
[12:35] <george_looney> sort of
[12:35] <Hexidigital_> !bug
[12:35] <george_looney> an oversight
[12:35] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <xbl> what's the problem when grub repeats printing 'GRUB' on boot?
[12:36] <xbl> what's the problem when grub repeats printing 'GRUB' on boot? (on edubuntu)
[12:36] <SVisor> !grub
[12:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[12:36] <omodo> naturally, this obscure company doesn't even appear on LP.org
[12:36] <Hexidigital_> omodo:: :( sorry, bud
[12:37] <omodo> Hexidigital_: I'd still try that PPD path :)
[12:37] <SVisor> omodo: Made a google for the printer, got a lot of hits, but none in a tongue that I can cope with
[12:37] <omodo> SVisor: yes, exactly.
[12:37] <omodo> it's not the fault of Ubuntu, this company is really not making any effort.
[12:37] <george_looney> do bugs for all sections go to bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <xbl> ubotu, used ghost to clone hdisk....
[12:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about used ghost to clone hdisk....
[12:38] <Hexidigital_> xbl:: ubotu is a bot
[12:38] <george_looney> ubotu is a bot
[12:38] <xbl> oooops sori
[12:38] <omodo> SVisor: the NT drivers, btw, used to be here http://www.develop.ro/d1650.html
[12:39] <xbl> I encountered error after cloning the disk....
[12:39] <omodo> now it's 404. and you can't find that model anywhere on their website. very professional.
[12:39] <keithhhhh> does anyone have a sony HiDef Camcorder?
[12:39] <medulla> can someone tell me how to get limewire installed on ubuntu...
[12:40] <xbl> Hexidigital_, can you help me sir...
[12:40] <medulla> or if you have a program that you think is better
[12:40] <xbl> Hexidigital_, about grub repeating 'GRUB' on boot?
[12:40] <Hexidigital_> xbl:: i cant help with grub errors, sorry (i dont know much about grub)
[12:40] <boricua> on the desktop version neither add remove nor spt-get install openssh  finds such package ?????
[12:40] <boricua> !info openssh
[12:40] <ubotu> Package openssh does not exist in dapper
[12:40] <xbl> Hexidigital_, ahh ok thanks anyway....
[12:40] <XVampireX> Hello, can anyone please tell me how can I change the keyboard to be able to type in hebrew? (I know in KDE it was in Keyboard Input or something similar)
[12:40] <omodo> it's openssl
[12:41] <omodo> openssh is a subset of openssl
[12:41] <void^> xbl: just setup grub again
[12:41] <apokryphos> !ssh
[12:41] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto. Putty is a nice windows ssh client, see http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:41] <HBuzacott> XVampireX, you can use the Langauge Support (System > Admin > Langauge Support)
[12:41] <omodo> XVampireX: system -> preferences -> Keyboard
[12:41] <XVampireX> Oh, thanks
[12:42] <omodo> XVampireX: shalom btw
[12:42] <XVampireX> Ah, shalom gam lah/leha
[12:42] <boricua> i see is openssh-server
[12:44] <XVampireX> You too
[12:44] <dibblego> whenever I try to print something the printer job is in state "Stopped: job-stopped" - how can I make it unstopped?
[12:44] <boricua> add and remove i n gnome gui runs synaptic?  does synaptic and apt run the save config file?  b/c add remove does not find openssh-server but apt-get install finds it  what are the dif
[12:44] <HBuzacott> dibblego, how is the printer connected?
[12:44] <dibblego> HBuzacott: USB
[12:45] <Diem> hello everyone
[12:45] <HBuzacott> dibblego, has it worked in the past?
[12:45] <apokryphos> hi
[12:45] <Fluxboxen> Yo :-)
[12:45] <dibblego> HBuzacott: no
[12:45] <Ng> boricua: the add/remote tool is more for adding user applications. synaptic uses the full package tree
[12:46] <dibblego> HBuzacott: any ideas?
[12:46] <boricua> ng:thxs
[12:46] <HBuzacott> dibblego, so it says it's connected but when you try to print it says printing :stoped. Right?
[12:47] <dibblego> HBuzacott: correct, it never says anything but stopped
[12:47] <HBuzacott> dibblego, even when you aren't printing
[12:47] <HBuzacott> ?
[12:47] <dibblego> no, it says stopped for any print job I send it
[12:47] <Diem> Would anyone happen to have a few ideas on why my net is running so slow? Its worked fine for a very long time and now my broadband is acting like its running a 9600 connection.
[12:47] <dibblego> the print job is *always* stopped
[12:47] <dibblego> I never see it in any other state
[12:49] <amit> how should i compile the modules ??
[12:49] <joedj> anyone know what the deal is with the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[12:49] <keithhhhh> anyone able to install avidemux 2.1.0 ??
[12:49] <dibblego> HBuzacott: ideas?
[12:49] <amit> command used to compile the modules?
[12:49] <bigfoot1> how can i get a printout of all files in a directory and its subdirectories, arranged accoding to what subdirectory the file is in? I just need; filename and filesize and directory location
[12:50] <HBuzacott> dibblego, what type of printer is it? I can't think of anything.
[12:50] <dibblego> HBuzacott: Lexmark X5150 which picked the X125 driver
[12:50] <amit> command used to compile the modules?
[12:50] <keithhhhh> anyone able to install avidemux 2.1.0 ??
[12:50] <bigfoot1> i want to get a listing of all the mp3s in my "audio" directory. this is why i asked
[12:51] <amit> how should i compile the modules ??
[12:52] <Diem> meh i might as well go install windows on the other partition now =/
[12:53] <dibblego> if I attempt to "Resume" the print job, nothing changes - it remains "stopped"
[12:53] -mokey:#ubuntu- LOLZ http://www.wikipediareview.org/viewforum.php?f=29
[12:53] <sequri> hi all
[12:53] -mokey:#ubuntu- ATTENTION: http://www.wikipediareview.org/viewforum.php?f=29
[12:54] -mokey:#ubuntu- ATTENTION: http://www.wikipediareview.org/viewforum.php?f=29
[12:54] <dibblego> mokey: please don't spam
[12:54] <sequri> is this channel ok for noobs?
[12:55] <bigfoot1> guys, in terminal, how can i view all the files in a directory and its subdirectory all at once?
[12:55] -mokey:#ubuntu- noobs have small penis
[12:55] <bimberi> thoreauputic: ping ^^^^^
[12:55] <sequri> lol
[12:55] <bigfoot1> mokey: quit
[12:55] <HBuzacott> dibblego, It seems your printer require "special setup", see: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=drv_x125
[12:55] <joedj> bigfoot1: find .
[12:55] <thoreauputic> bimberi: pong
[12:55] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: ls -R or find ./
[12:55] <sequri> au contraire
[12:55] <sequri> ;P
[12:56] <dibblego> HBuzacott: ah thanks
[12:56] <bigfoot1> Arafangion joedj: how do i limit to bigfoot1/audio/ ? thanks
[12:56] <bimberi> thoreauputic: just avoiding an !ops call :)
[12:57] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: ...
[12:57] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: find bigfoot1/audio/ ?
[12:57] <bigfoot1> Arafangion:  3 periods?
[12:57] <thoreauputic> oops
[12:57] <imbrandon> heh
[12:57] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:57] <Arafangion> Yes, yes, 3 periods.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: early?
[12:57] <joedj> grrr, i miss RestrictedFormats
[12:57] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: late ;)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ah that will do it too
[12:59] <keithhhhh> can someone tell me how to install a  ______.deb file
[12:59] <joedj> ahh i see
[12:59] <gnomefreak> that better?
[12:59] <joedj> RestrictedFormats now does a META REFRESH, which i have told my browser to ignore :)
[12:59] <imbrandon> keithhhhh, dpkg -i *.deb
[12:59] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: heh thanks
[12:59] <dsas> keithhhhh: Just click on it
[12:59] <imbrandon> sudo + ^^
[12:59] <gnomefreak> yw ;)
[12:59] <dsas> keithhhhh: Or double click should I say.
[12:59] <keithhhhh> awsome thanks, Im  making a list of things as I learn hehe
[12:59] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: brain is not working (tm)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: i know the feeling
[01:00] <keithhhhh> dsas: I tried double clicking but it didnt work
[01:00] <Arafangion> keithhhhh: dpkg -i \_\_\_\_\_\_.deb
[01:00] <dsas> keithhhhh: Do you have gdebi installed?
[01:00] <dsas> keithhhhh: gdebi will let you just double click it.
[01:00] <keithhhhh> dsas - nope
[01:00] <keithhhhh> I will try this way dpkg -i *.deb
[01:00] <imbrandon> sudo +
[01:00] <imbrandon> that
[01:00] <keithhhhh> I rather learn to navigate the terminal
[01:00] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[01:00] <keithhhhh> ok I know sudo also  ;)
[01:01] <imbrandon> sudo dpkg -i <deb>.deb
[01:01] <dsas> keithhhhh: Fair enough, just mentioning the gui way because some people prefer it.
[01:01] <keithhhhh> yup cool
[01:01] <keithhhhh> dsas ya I agree
[01:01] <keithhhhh> dsas most people do
[01:01] <gnomefreak> eithers mine thoreauputic lol i tried to remove him and it wouldnt let me lol
[01:01] <bigfoot1> Arafangion find bigfoot1/audio             find: bigfoot1: Not a directory
[01:01] <keithhhhh> but I want to learn for the eventual day somethign dies hehe
[01:02] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I got all my ! * and stuff the wrong way around ;)
[01:02] <Jemt> Greetz. Is Universe equal to Unstable and Multiverse equal to Testing in Debian ?
[01:02] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: It's not?
[01:02] <keithhhhh> its installing
[01:02] <imbrandon> Jemt, no
[01:02] <keithhhhh> ooooh
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Jemt: no
[01:02] <keithhhhh> errors  :(
[01:02] <Jemt> imbrandon && thoreauputic: Ok, thanks
[01:02] <imbrandon> Jemt, universe == extra software , multiverse == non-free
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Jemt: more like multiverse = non-free
[01:02] <thoreauputic> right
[01:02] <Arafangion> keithhhhh: dpkg doesn't install dependencies for you automatically.
[01:02] <Jemt> Ah, okay :)
[01:03] <Jemt> THanks, guys
[01:03] <keithhhhh> oh wow many dependencies are necessary to be isntalled
[01:04] <bigfoot1> http://pastebin.com/723067  Arafangion
[01:04] <dibblego> is it possible to execute a shell script without any environment variables?
[01:04] <Arafangion> dibblego: No.
[01:04] <dibblego> my /etc/init.d startup script doesn't start, and I can't figure out why
[01:05] <Arafangion> dibblego: Unless one can execute it on an OS that doesn't have environment variables...
[01:05] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: OH! Are you talking about mime types?
[01:05] <keithhhhh> is there any quick way to install lib files?
[01:06] <keithhhhh> for example libglibmm
[01:06] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: huh? nope. i'm just wanting to get a list of my files in a particular directory and its subdirectory
[01:06] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: find <particular directory> / <particular subdirectory>
[01:06] <pianoboy3333> Where in ubuntu can I add a splash screen? I thought it was in preferences...
[01:06] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: pls don't get confused. "audio" is not a mime type. it's a folder name
[01:07] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Ok, let's take the example of "jeff/audio".
[01:07] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Is "jeff" a directory in the present working directory?
[01:07] <bigfoot1> Arafangion:  i think so
[01:07] <bigfoot1> pwd  is "/home/jeff"
[01:07] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Right, 'jeff' is in ../, not ./
[01:08] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: If it was in ./, you'd have /home/jeff/jeff
[01:08] <bigfoot1> what?
[01:08] <bigfoot1> sorry, you missed me
[01:08] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: There are two special files, the . (dot) and .. (dot-dot)
[01:08] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: . refers to teh current directory, in your case, /home/jeff
[01:09] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: .. refers to the parent of your curent directory.
[01:09] <MarkAngels> Hi, do external usb2 harddrives work in Ubuntu? Do I need special drivers? I'm thinking of buying a Maxtor Personal Storage 3200 500GB
[01:09] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: i think i understand
[01:09] <Cainus> hey all....soo...ummm...is it safe to do apt-get dist-upgrade?  I've read a bit about how easy it is and everything, but it makes me a bit nervous...
[01:09] <bigfoot1> so i should do find ./audio, yes?
[01:09] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: So, ../jeff refers to /home/jeff, while ./jeff refers to /home/jeff/jeff, which doesn't exist.
[01:10] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: but i never typed a period
[01:10] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Yes, however you may find ~ to be useful as well. Most shells (eg, bash) will expand that to be your home directory, so if you are jeff, it will expand to /home/jeff
[01:10] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: . is assumed.
[01:10] <dbernar1> Cainus: make sure you have the [edu|k|u] buntu package installed, then run sudo aptitude -f install, and see whether that gives you any packages to remove or install. After that, you are as safe as possible.
[01:10] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: why does it assume it?
[01:10] <dbernar1> Cainus: I mean, as safe as I can make you.
[01:10] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Because it does :)
[01:10] <bigfoot1> ok
[01:11] <bigfoot1> so pwd is home/jeff, yes?
[01:11] <Cainus> dbernar1: it generally works though?
[01:11] <bigfoot1> and . is home/jeff, yes?
[01:11] <bigfoot1> and .. is home/ , yes?
[01:11] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: . is whatever 'pwd' reports.
[01:11] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: And .. is the directory that contains .
[01:11] <dbernar1> Cainus: I do not know, I did it only once. However, they had testing for that, and so on. They being the Ubuntu developers.
[01:11] <francesjan> hello is there another host server for yahoo messenger in gaim? i think the default server is down...:(
[01:12] <Cainus> dbernar1: okay thanks... I might as well put it off for a while I think
[01:12] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: You are put in /home/jeff by default, but you may cd to /var/log, for example, so . will refer to /home/log
[01:12] <dbernar1> Cainus: no need to upgrade if everything works great.
[01:13] <Cainus> that's what I was thinking :)
[01:13] <bigfoot1> if i cd to /var/log, . will refer to /var/log, and not /home/log, as you said, right?
[01:14] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: msg above
[01:14] <filleokus> Hi i have a GIMP problem :D,the situation is like this: I have a logo or header, with rounded borders around it and im going to put another picture inside those borders. and therefore i want make the border a layer, but it is imposibelle, how do i do it?
[01:14] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Yes.
[01:14] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: cd means "change directory"/
[01:15] <bigfoot1> so . and .. are relative paths
[01:15] <bigfoot1> what does ~ mean?
[01:15] <filleokus> Any gimp expert here?
[01:15] <filleokus> :P
[01:15] <bigfoot1> like ~/
[01:15] <HBuzacottt> bigfoot1, home directory
[01:16] <bigfoot1> Arafangion: and home directory is not /home/, but home/jeff, yes?
[01:16] <bigfoot1> if so, that's a bit confusing, don't you think?
[01:16] <HBuzacottt> bigfoot1, / is root ~/ is home ./ is current ../ is directory above
[01:16] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: ~ is an abbreviation for the current user's home directory. ~<username> is the home directory of <username>
[01:16] <jrib> filleokus: can't you select the border and cut and paste as a new layer?
[01:17] <HBuzacottt> is is faster than typing /home/hugh
[01:17] <HBuzacottt> it it*
[01:17] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: perhaps /home/ should be renamed to /homes/ then :D
[01:17] <bigfoot1> Chousuke: wow, i shoudl re-read that several times
[01:17] <dbernar1> bigfoot1: the unix file system was built for multiuser environments. So that is why it is not just /home, but /home/<user>
[01:17] <Chousuke> but they decided to have /home
[01:17] <filleokus> jrib, yes might test that thanks
[01:17] <filleokus> m8
[01:17] <Chousuke> the home directory can be anything, really..
[01:17] <bigfoot1> Chousuke: ok. they sshould rename /home/
[01:18] <Chousuke> but they usually have it under /home. :)
[01:18] <bigfoot1> because "home directory" does not refer to "home" but to home/username
[01:18] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: it's the user's home directory.
[01:18] <jrib> filleokus: or you could use a mask
[01:18] <Chousuke> on OS X, it would be /Users/>username>
[01:18] <Chousuke> <*
[01:18] <HBuzacottt> Chousuke, why would you put your ~ dir anywhere else (excluding root)
[01:18] <filleokus> jrib, tell me :
[01:18] <filleokus> :P*
[01:18] <Chousuke> HBuzacottt: for various reasons.
[01:19] <dbernar1> bigfoot1: no, you should rename yours, and others can have what they like best.
[01:19] <HBuzacottt> Chousuke, like when?
[01:19] <Chousuke> HBuzacottt: there are some "users", like www-data, whose home is /var/www for example :)
[01:19] <bigfoot1> dbernar1: i can rename /home/ to some other name?
[01:19] <jrib> filleokus: after you add in your new image, right click on the new image's layer, add a layer mask, and paint the mask correspdonding to the part you don't want to see, black
[01:19] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: no, that'll break things
[01:19] <dbernar1> bigfoot1: Im sure you could. But you would break some things.
[01:19] <bigfoot1> Chousuke: but that's what dbernar1said.
[01:20] <bigfoot1> but it doesn't break for www-data?
[01:20] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: it's possible, but it's not as simple as just renaming the directory
[01:20] <bigfoot1> i don't want to rename. i'm just saying that's it's confusing to newbies
[01:20] <Chousuke> maybe it is :/
[01:20] <HBuzacottt> anyway I think this topic should be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:20] <dbernar1> bigfoot1: probably a lot of things about a unix system are,.
[01:21] <Chousuke> bigfoot1: the users don't have to know about it.
[01:21] <Chousuke> they can just click on the "home" icon
[01:21] <Chousuke> :D
[01:21] <bigfoot1> is there a webpage that talks about this subject (i.e "home directory", /home/, .   ,   ..  ~/, )
[01:21] <MagicFab> How do I change the default bittorrent application in Firefox / epiphany ?
[01:21] <MagicFab> (gnome)
[01:21] <Arafangion> bigfoot1: Some unix systems use "Users" for /home instead.
[01:22] <HBuzacottt> MagicFab, open the properties for a .torrent and change the default program to <your program>
[01:22] <dbernar1> bigfoot1: I searched google for "unix file system" first link is http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/UnixAndC/Unix/FileSyst.html
[01:22] <dsas> MagicFab: For epiphany you can right click on a torrent go to properties and then open with, then choose from there
[01:22] <Arafangion> dbernar1: These conventions have been around nearly as long as there have been OS's, afaik.
[01:23] <MagicFab> dsas: there are no such properties.
[01:23] <dbernar1> bigfoot1: it varies from system to system, though. Not tooooo much, but a bit.
[01:23] <dbernar1> Arafangion: which ones?
[01:23] <dsas> MagicFab: Are you doing this on an already downloaded torrent on your desktop or similar?
[01:23] <Arafangion> dbernar1: There's variation, sure, but otherwise, they are old conventions :)
[01:24] <dabaR> Arafangion: OK.
[01:24] <HBuzacottt> Could this discusion be continued on #offtopic (or whatever it is). is it #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:24] <HBuzacottt> ?
[01:24] <Arafangion> dabaR: /, as being another convention, sure, despite that MS uses \, and Mac OS uses :, in general, the _convention_ that _something_ separates the path, usually /, is as old as OS's are.
[01:25] <MagicFab> dsas: no, I am asking about changing the appliction that handles any and all .torrent downloads. It's gnome-btdownload by default but I want to change it
[01:25] <nosklo> MagicFab, right click the torrent file, and go to the "open with" tab
[01:25] <nosklo> MagicFab, right click, choose properties, and go to the "open with" tab
[01:26] <MagicFab> .torrent don't save, they are currently being open directly. I'll create a dummy .torrent and try what u say.
[01:26] <blackline> How come I get to University of Minnesota when Ubuntu's start page should come up? The url for startpage is: file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-sv_SE.html
[01:26] <_nano_> How do I refresh my desktop? (Gnome)
[01:26] <dsas> MagicFab: They are probably being saved to /tmp
[01:26] <dsas> _nano_: ctrl+r
[01:26] <Mewshi> hit f5, _nano_
[01:26] <HBuzacottt> _nano_ ctrl-r
[01:26] <_nano_> dsas: thanks
[01:26] <dabaR> Arafangion: night
[01:26] <_nano_> thanks Mewshiand HBuzacottt
[01:26] <Mewshi> i think f5 works too >.>
[01:27] <burepe2> Is there a way to install from dapper without going in to the live cd? When the live cd boots the resolution is so low that I can't see the buttons to go throught the install steps. Any suggestions?
[01:27] <_nano_> Mewshi: yeah f5 works :)
[01:27] <HBuzacottt> _nano_, lots of ways
[01:27] <Mewshi> ok ^-^
[01:27] <blackline> anyone else that dont get the ordinary ubuntu startpage when starting web browser? the url in the settings are the same... university of minnesota?
[01:27] <dsas> burepe2: You can use the "alternative" cd
[01:27] <Arafangion> _nano_: I believe F5 works as well :)
[01:27] <bigfoot1> Chousuke: Arafangion thank you./~~/
[01:27] <HBuzacottt> burepe2, there is a low graphical install aswell
[01:27] <_nano_> yeah it works :P
[01:28] <Arafangion> _nano_: Though, I do wonder what it'd be like if function keys were lowercase, and the convention was that an uppercase function key was obtained by pressing shift.
[01:28] <burepe2> HBuzacottt: how do i do the lowgrapical install?
[01:28] <MagicFab> nosklo, your suggestion only lets me open the app once, for a desktop file. No options there to "always open this kind of file with..."
[01:29] <_nano_> Arafangion: that would suck :P
[01:29] <Arafangion> _nano_: Perhaps :)
[01:29] <HBuzacottt> burepe2, it is one of the install options on the boot page. sorry have to leave
[01:29] <nosklo> MagicFab, nope, if you right click, choose "properties", then choose the "Open With" TAB, it will let you choose the default
[01:29] <_nano_> Arafangion: except for passwords, english language should do away with upper case and lower case :P
[01:29] <burepe2> ok
[01:29] <burepe2> thanks
[01:29] <burepe2> didn't see it
[01:30] <Arafangion> _nano_: The early apple machines didn't have lower case.
[01:30] <_nano_> Arafangion: oh? lol
[01:30] <nosklo> MagicFab, the default for all files of that type
[01:32] <MagicFab> nosklo, you're right, I clicked a bit too fast on OPen With..., not "Properties" at the beginning. However the current default app ios not there. Will try that.
[01:33] <nosklo> MagicFab, it even lets you add an application that is not in the list
[01:33] <blackline> hmmm. seems like i got some spyware or some shit. i cant change my startpage in firefox. no mather what it says i get to university of minnesota. anyone?
[01:33] <nik> how to find out which process is writing/reading on hdd?
[01:33] <MagicFab> nosklo, it is weird that there are two "Open With" menus/prefs
[01:34] <Arafangion> nik: YOu can't. You can determine which process is using a particular file, though.
[01:34] <nosklo> MagicFab, yep, one is to open with, just for the moment, and the other is in properties, and sets the default for all files of the type
[01:34] <Arafangion>        fuser - identify processes using files or sockets
[01:34] <nik> hm, thx
[01:35] <afflux> morgen
[01:35] <Azertyuuu> does anyone know the link to Mepis RC2 ? thanks
[01:36] <MagicFab> nosklo, no luck, still opens with gnome-btdownload
[01:36] <Arafangion> Azertyuuu: /join #mepis
[01:36] <MagicFab> nosklo, I'll check into .gnome* folders, perhaps
[01:37] <Arafangion> Azertyuuu: And don't cross post.
[01:38] <chris_> Hello all i'm just about to install windows 2000 (to play some games) and i know it will kill my bootloader , How will i get it back?
[01:38] <void^> !grub
[01:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[01:39] <Boopop> Hi all
[01:39] <chris_> Thanks
[01:39] <Boopop> How will ubuntu see the first ntfs partition on my second IDE hard disk?
[01:39] <Boopop> so i can mount it
[01:39] <der0b> If a device is listed in lspci (0000:01:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[01:40] <der0b> ack
[01:40] <chris_> mount /dev/hdb1 ?
[01:40] <der0b> sorry..  lemme finish my thought
[01:40] <der0b> If a device is listed in lspci (0000:01:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)) how can I track down what it's called in /dev?
[01:40] <Boopop>  according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /
[01:40] <Boopop> mount failed
[01:40] <daviscostel> who can paste me the little TM
[01:40] <nosklo> MagicFab, strange
[01:41] <daviscostel> TradeMark
[01:41] <daviscostel> TM
[01:41] <nosklo> MagicFab, here it works
[01:41] <Boopop> chris_
[01:41] <nosklo> MagicFab, very odd
[01:41] <Boopop>  according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /
[01:41] <Boopop> mount failed
[01:41] <rigonatti>  hi all .....I was usin a aplication (terminal script) that looks for all disks and auto mount all disks (FAT and others partitions) is something like : diskmount ...diskmounter. autodiskmount ...Anybody knows that
[01:41] <chris_> Yes?
[01:41] <void^> der0b: try iwconfig
[01:41] <Boopop> I got this:  according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /
[01:41] <Boopop> mount failed
[01:42] <nosklo> MagicFab, I changed on properties, and now when I double click the file, it runs with the new app
[01:42] <MagicFab> nosklo: of course, but what I wantis for the new app to open *in Firefox / epiphany*
[01:43] <nosklo> MagicFab, oh, firefox is a different issue
[01:43] <MagicFab> well, that's what I initially asked.
[01:43] <MagicFab> ;)
[01:43] <der0b> void^: I'm asking because it's actually not a device known to the system it's not listed in interfaces and iwconfig doesn't see it.  I don't know how to "enable" it
[01:43] <nosklo> MagicFab, go to edit -> preferences, and then to the "Downloads" tab
[01:43] <nosklo> MagicFab, there should be a button like "edit actions" or such
[01:44] <MagicFab> nosklo, .torrent are not there.
[01:44] <nosklo> MagicFab, mine is in different language
[01:44] <YaH00> http://static.flickr.com/64/167011569_837bc20969_b.jpg
[01:44] <orbin> rigonatti: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:45] <Boopop> chris_ I manged to do it myself ! :D
[01:45] <MagicFab> tried that first, that's why I ask here. Weirdest thing is epiphany doesn't even have prefs for opener apps
[01:45] <Boopop> >is proud<
[01:45] <Hobbsee> YaH00: is that necessary?
[01:45] <MagicFab> gottago./... tx. anyways, norsklo
[01:45] <Boopop> it turned out to be hdb6
[01:45] <nosklo> MagicFab, i see... then click a torrent file, and when it asks to open or save, choose open, and in front of it, you may choose an application, then check the box "always use this"
[01:45] <void^> der0b: looks like an atheros wlan card. i think you need to install restricted modules to get the drivers.
[01:45] <rigonatti> orbin: Txs ...where should i save this file ?
[01:45] <daviscostel> where can i download the arial font?
[01:46] <MagicFab> nosklo: yes, but if you have already chosen "always open using this"... there is no way to change it again later
[01:46] <MagicFab> since it opens directly!
[01:46] <daviscostel> ++
[01:46] <orbin> rigonatti: wherever you want.  you don't really need it after you us it.  ~/Desktop or ~ will be fine
[01:46] <nosklo> MagicFab, then it should be in the preferences!
[01:47] <nosklo> MagicFab, you probably want to mess with .mozilla/firefox files, not .gnome*
[01:48] <der0b> void^: is there a restricted modules for ubuntu server?
[01:48] <LordSigurd> how do you get bluethoot to work on Dapper Drake, cant seem to have it work like in breezy badger, cuz i only have Bluethoot keyboard...
[01:48] <der0b> I can't find one for linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-server
[01:52] <void^> der0b: no idea. driver is available at http://madwifi.org/wiki if you wish to compile it yourself.
[01:52] <der0b> thanks for trying
[01:52] <VoX> is it possible to tell apt to append /boot/grub/menu.lst, instead of deleting it and replacing it?
[01:53] <DBO> VoX, for what purpose?
[01:54] <VoX> DBO: because i have multiple o/s's installed, with grub as the bootloader
[01:54] <VoX> and everytime there's a kernel update, i have to re-edit menu.lst
[01:54] <VoX> and a feel like whinging. :P
[01:55] <barry> HI All, can someone help.  I have recently update my ubuntu version but it seems to have through out my vpn connection
[01:55] <Bassetts> what is a good audio file converter? from mp3 to ogg
[01:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !vpn
[01:55] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[01:55] <barry> i get /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/CiscoVPN not found now and indeed it is not there. BUT how do i get it there, do i need to rebuild?
[01:56] <DBO> VoX, hmm, its not supposed to do that...  mine doesnt overwrite my custom entries
[01:56] <kholerabbi> Could someone help me with getting mpgs to play?
[01:56] <kholerabbi> mpg movies.
[01:56] <jrib> kholerabbi: did you visit the links ubotu said in -offtopic?
[01:56] <kholerabbi> I must have missed them jrib
[01:57] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kholerabbi: get the essential mpeg codec for caffeine,  ahh what player do u use?
[01:57] <jrib> ubotu: tell kholerabbi about mpg
[01:57] <kholerabbi> Default
[01:57] <kholerabbi> thanks
[01:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kholerabbi: i mean essential codec pack for the caffeine layer
[01:59] <kholerabbi> What's the default video player in ubuntu?
[02:00] <barry> Can anyone help me reinstate my vpn connection, i'm sure its something easy I just don't know how to do it.
[02:00] <apokryphos> kholerabbi: totem
[02:01] <Hagbard_Ub> Quite large...
[02:01] <Hagbard_Ub> All of oyu Ubuntu users?
[02:02] <barry> I get : Starting /opt/cisco-vpnclient/bin/vpnclient: module directory /lib/modules/2.6.1 5-25-386/CiscoVPN not found. But my previous headers do have the CiscoVPN dir????
[02:02] <Hagbard_Ub> What you think about Ubuntu compared to other distros?
[02:02] <cipri> i need help with a tv tuner
[02:02] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: you're asking this in the #ubuntu channel, right?
[02:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kubuntu rox
[02:02] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, Yepp
[02:02] <Bassetts> is there a gui mp3 > ogg converter?
[02:03] <Hagbard_Ub> I like Xubuntu more than Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[02:03] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: I'll take a guess at speaking for everyone else by saying "good" :P
[02:03] <Hagbard_Ub> Love some KDE apps though
[02:03] <barry> To many students and not enough teachers in here?
[02:03] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, kk
[02:03] <Hagbard_Ub> Bassetts, Yes there is
[02:03] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: I personally tend to stick to Kubuntu
[02:03] <Hagbard_Ub> Konverter for KDE or Converter for Gnome/XFce
[02:03] <Bassetts> Hagbard_Ub: what is it called?
[02:03] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, kk
[02:04] <Hagbard_Ub> Bassetts, Just wrote
[02:04] <Bassetts> ahh heh missed it, thanks
[02:04] <Hagbard_Ub> I like Linux much more than Windows... still i'm a gamer.... :)
[02:04] <spikeb> that's what dual booting or having more than one machine is for
[02:04] <Hagbard_Ub> But i'm getting more of a webprogrammer...
[02:05] <Hagbard_Ub> spikeb, I use WIne instead
[02:05] <Hagbard_Ub> Wine*
[02:05] <Bassetts> Hagbard_Ub: i cant find it in the repos
[02:05] <spikeb> wine/cedega is an OK alternative too.
[02:05] <Hagbard_Ub> Bassetts, leme check
[02:05] <Bassetts> ok
[02:05] <Bassetts> (im using gnome)
[02:06] <Hagbard_Ub> ohhh
[02:06] <Hagbard_Ub> its soundconverter or soundkonverter
[02:06] <Bassetts> ahh thanks
[02:07] <Hagbard_Ub> No problem
[02:08] <dragoon> when i open azureus in ubuntu nothing comes up
[02:08] <dragoon> a small error down the bottom comes up
[02:08] <Hagbard_Ub> dragoon, Maybe there someting wrong with Java
[02:08] <dragoon> saying "azureus did not shutdown tidily blah blha blha, also check the wiki see the help menu for azuerus diffapears
[02:09] <Hagbard_Ub> Then click next or something
[02:09] <dragoon> i cant click on hide
[02:09] <Hagbard_Ub> ohh..
[02:09] <Hagbard_Ub> hmm... restart java
[02:09] <dragoon> you mean restart azureus
[02:09] <Hagbard_Ub> "kill java" then start azereus again
[02:09] <Hagbard_Ub> no
[02:09] <dragoon> i didthat
[02:09] <Hagbard_Ub> kill java
[02:10] <Hagbard_Ub> ok
[02:10] <Hagbard_Ub> did it work?
[02:10] <dragoon> n
[02:10] <dragoon> no*
[02:10] <Hagbard_Ub> hmm.. still that messege?
[02:10] <dragoon> yeah
[02:10] <dragoon> the loading screen comes up
[02:10] <Hagbard_Ub> look in your home folder if there's som cfg file or azereus folder
[02:10] <Hagbard_Ub> ok
[02:10] <dragoon> yeah, it does
[02:10] <Hobbsee> wildman: turn off that away message, thanks
[02:11] <Hagbard_Ub> move so azereus can't find it
[02:11] <dragoon> nope, same problem
[02:11] <Hagbard_Ub> hmm... well.. i don't use azerues...
[02:11] <dragoon> what do you use ?
[02:11] <Hagbard_Ub> so i don't know anymore
[02:11] <wildman> Hobbsee: euh... I did "/back"
[02:11] <void^> dragoon: issue with gtk+ >2.8.17, use http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[02:11] <Hagbard_Ub> i don't use bittorrent
[02:11] <dragoon> void^: ok, thanks
[02:12] <wildman> Hobbsee: well... I did it for sure now
[02:12] <Hobbsee> wildman: as in, get rid of the autoaway thing completely.  it's annoying.
[02:12] <Fluxboxen> hi guys does anyone have a definitive guide on how t setup VNC, tried one from the ubuntu forums and it refused to allow me to connect even locally
[02:12] <kholerabbi> Can you shipit kubuntu and xubuntu and edubuntu?
[02:12] <wildman> Hobbsee: I'll do better, I'll close this window and return only when needed :)
[02:12] <Hagbard_Ub> kholerabbi, no
[02:12] <spikeb> you can with kubuntu and edubuntu i believe
[02:12] <Hagbard_Ub> just Ubuntu Kubuntu and Edubuntu
[02:12] <kholerabbi> ah, Xubuntu isn't canonical is it?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> kholerabbi: a nickname i've had for a long time
[02:13] <arno> Hello, when I turn on vmplayer I get "can't open vmmon". Could anyone help me please
[02:13] <arno> ?
[02:13] <boricua> i see that sshd allows permitrootlogins  why would ubuntu allow that if the root account is disable?
[02:13] <Hagbard_Ub> arno, Is it installed?
[02:13] <kholerabbi> Hobbsee: Pronounced Hobbzee?
[02:13] <arno> it is
[02:13] <Seveas> arno, you should install the vmware-kernel-modules
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> arno, k....
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> use VLC :P=)
[02:14] <boricua> !info xubuntu
[02:14] <ubotu> Package xubuntu does not exist in dapper
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> oh...
[02:14] <Hobbsee> kholerabbi: pronounced hobbsee, yeah
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> damn i read wrong
[02:14] <DShepherd> when I load the keyboard indicator i get 'Keyboard Indicator (Error loading XKB configuration registry)'. How do i fix this error
[02:14] <DShepherd> ?
[02:14] <Fluxboxen> hi guys does anyone have a definitive guide on how t setup VNC, tried one from the ubuntu forums and it refused to allow me to connect even locally
[02:14] <arno> seveas: it is installed but I've got both 23 and 25 kernel...
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> ubotu, it's xubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about it's xubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <apokryphos> !vnc
[02:14] <ubotu> vnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[02:14] <Seveas> arno, then install the vmware modules for both kernels
[02:14] <arno> I did it
[02:15] <arno> but it still doesn't work
[02:15] <Fluxboxen> !freenx
[02:15] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:15] <Ng> hmm, shouldn't the vnc factoid suggest that vino uses your current session, since that's what is installed by default?
[02:15] <Hagbard_Ub> Tell me ubotu is a bot! :P
[02:15] <zzzen> howdy folx. got a question
[02:15] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: nope, super helpful user.
[02:15] <Hagbard_Ub> hit it
[02:15] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, Bot then... :D
[02:16] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: oh come on, that's mean ;-)
[02:16] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, hehehe
[02:16] <zzzen> a breety -> 6.0.6 upgrade went sour, and now I can't get my sound to work
[02:16] <Hagbard_Ub> but i don't se how anyone can write a messega in 2 secs :P
[02:16] <zzzen> breezy
[02:16] <Hagbard_Ub> zzzen, Do a pure install of Dapper
[02:17] <apokryphos> you shouldn't have to, no
[02:17] <_nano_> zzzen: "upgrade went sour" ..that's a creative expression :)
[02:17] <apokryphos> zzzen: /msg ubotu sound
[02:17] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, It's better to
[02:17] <Hagbard_Ub> !sound
[02:17] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:17] <spikeb> breety!
[02:17] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: a stable -> stable upgrade (when done properly) is fully supported
[02:17] <zzzen> I've already done that a few hours ago, still sour :(
[02:17] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, Well... i prefer a puire reinstall
[02:17] <apokryphos> zzzen: you're going to have to be a bit more descriptive
[02:18] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: sure, but the user shouldn't be forced to do that
[02:18] <_nano_> Hagbard_Ub: though it's a simpler way, not many people have the luxury to do so...
[02:18] <Hagbard_Ub> Why can't ALSA play many sounds at once like Direct Sound can?
[02:18] <Hagbard_Ub> !alsa
[02:18] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:18] <zzzen> ok. alsa doesn't detect my ac97 driver I've built with module-assistant
[02:18] <spikeb> it can Hagbard_Ub
[02:18] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: investigate with him in /msg =)
[02:18] <Hagbard_Ub> spikeb, How?
[02:18] <Hagbard_Ub> apokryphos, well..
[02:19] <Hagbard_Ub> thought he had something to say
[02:19] <arno> serveas: Have you got an idea?
[02:19] <dragoon> that worked :)
[02:19] <Hagbard_Ub> spikeb, ?
[02:19] <zzzen> I saw something about "software mixing" on the !alsa page
[02:19] <apokryphos> Hagbard_Ub: yes, you can /msg him too
[02:19] <compengi> i'm using gaim for msn i deleted a group how can i have it back
[02:19] <compengi> ?
[02:19] <zzzen> I wish alsa worked :(
[02:19] <Hagbard_Ub>  Hmm...
[02:20] <Hagbard_Ub> compengi, You can't delete a unempty group
[02:20] <compengi> it did
[02:21] <Hagbard_Ub> hmm...
[02:21] <Hagbard_Ub> with all the users?
[02:21] <compengi> but on windows they are not
[02:21] <arno> How should I load vmmon actally?
[02:21] <compengi> and people are messaging me but i can't see them
[02:21] <squid0> hi
[02:21] <Hagbard_Ub> Then there aren't anyproblem
[02:21] <Hagbard_Ub> add them again
[02:21] <pcfan> Hi all, how can I know what commands are executed by a program (not by a script....)?
[02:22] <compengi> lol
[02:22] <compengi> they are over 30
[02:22] <DShepherd> when I load the keyboard indicator i get 'Keyboard Indicator (Error loading XKB configuration registry)'. How do i fix this error
[02:22] <squid0> i need to write a basic startup script to be executed on boot. how do i do that (breezy)?
[02:22] <Hagbard_Ub> pcfan, Execute it trough Terminal
[02:22] <compengi> i don't remember them
[02:22] <rixxon> pcfan: monitor processes as a tree
[02:22] <Ng> pcfan: commands? most programs don't execute other commands, they call library functions
[02:22] <Hagbard_Ub> squid0, using sh !bash or something like that
[02:22] <Hagbard_Ub> google on it
[02:22] <squid0> Hagbard_Ub: i did, no real joy
[02:22] <Hagbard_Ub> squid0, kk
[02:22] <boricua> anyone has link to the ubuntu sexy wallpapers that were in the news awhile back
[02:22] <pcfan> and what can I do if  the commands are executed for short time?
[02:23] <Hagbard_Ub> search on shell scripting
[02:23] <Hagbard_Ub> look there boricua
[02:23] <DShepherd> squid0: is ur problem writing the script or setting it to start up?
[02:23] <squid0> Hagbard_Ub: most of the things that turn up are for general linux, and it seems that ubuntu's startup script directory structure is a bit different to those
[02:23] <Hagbard_Ub> If you cant find anygoods there... then your'e unhuman
[02:23] <dsas> boricua: I assume you mean the ubuntu-calendar packages.
[02:23] <squid0> DShepherd: both really.......
[02:24] <dsas> boricua: If you're looking for sexy though, they're not it.
[02:24] <Hagbard_Ub> writing aint hard
[02:24] <Ng> pcfan: it might be easier if you tell us what you're actually trying to do
[02:24] <threat> [4295337.376000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host controller process error, something bad happened!
[02:24] <threat> [4295337.376000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host system error, PCI problems?
[02:24] <Hagbard_Ub> just !bash or something, look it up to start it... the just write all commands you want to be exec
[02:24] <DShepherd> squid0: google bash shell scripting
[02:25] <pcfan> When I run googleearth as a normal user I have an error: symlink: Permision Denied.
[02:25] <Hagbard_Ub> pcfan, Sudo it
[02:26] <pcfan> I know, that sudo solves the problem but isn't there any other solution?
[02:26] <squid0> DShepherd: i can't afford to start learning shell scripting right now. i found a script on the net that looks like it will help me, and then i saw a link about registering a startup script via update-rc.d, which I'll try. how does that sound?
[02:26] <Ng> pcfan: there should be - I installed it with sudo, but I can run it fine as my user
[02:26] <threat> any ideas?
[02:27] <Hagbard_Ub> threat, nope
[02:27] <pcfan> Ng:I installed googleearth as root...
[02:27] <spikeb> alright, im off
[02:27] <DShepherd> squid0: im not sure what to say. I am clueless my self
[02:27] <squid0> DShepherd: lol ok.
[02:27] <Hagbard_Ub> squid0, Shell scripting is really easy..
[02:28] <Hagbard_Ub> it something like !bash then you just write all the commands you want executed
[02:28] <squid0> Hagbard_Ub: but i can't get into it now.
[02:29] <njan> squid0, why don't you just copy a script from /etc/init.d/ and edit it
[02:30] <squid0> yeah, good idea. i'm actually doing that but with a simple script from the web.
[02:30] <arno> help
[02:33] <Hagbard_Ub> arno, With what?
[02:34] <FurryNemesi> finally!
[02:36] <arno> with vmmon
[02:36] <rdz> hi all. is there an alternative to the standard 'network settings dialog'?.
[02:36] <arno> Hagbard_Ub: with vmmon
[02:38] <rdz> or more generally: is there a way to save wlan-profiles, so i don't have to change the wep-key manually each time i swith to another wlan?
[02:39] <Bassetts> this is  a weird question, how can i test my websites in IE from ubuntu :S
[02:39] <dragoon> Bassetts: using wien
[02:39] <dragoon> wine
[02:39] <tr1gg3r> Bassetts: wine and install ie
[02:40] <Bassetts> ok, thanks :)
[02:40] <tr1gg3r> rdz: networks can be configured in the file /etc/network/interfaces instead
[02:41] <Sanne> Bassetts, I haven't used the script myself, so I can't really tell you if it's safe to use, but you might take a look at it: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[02:41] <killaz> guys how can I install the dutch dictionary and use it in openoffice.org?
[02:41] <Bassetts> thanks Sanne
[02:41] <Sanne> Bassetts, you're welcome :)
[02:41] <voraistos> hello guys ;) I am trying to set custom command to open my m3u files with gmplayer -playlist NameOfThe.m3u i want to replace the m3ufilename with the var (%something). As you can beleive, i dunno what the %something is. can smo help please ?
[02:41] <Bassetts> i might just put xp on a vm anyway to use photoshop
[02:41] <rdz> tr1gg3r
[02:42] <Toma-> voraistos: i believe its $1
[02:42] <Toma-> or $2
[02:43] <arno> How can I make vmplayer work? help
[02:43] <voraistos> $ ? are u sure? i would have guessed something like %u
[02:43] <Toma-> brb
[02:43] <Bassetts> i hate ms
[02:43] <voraistos> i dont
[02:44] <Ng> Bassetts: IE should run fine in WINE
[02:44] <Bassetts> Ng: ok, i still need photoshop though, so i might aswell use a vm
[02:44] <voraistos> its gonna be pretty slow
[02:45] <Ng> Bassetts: are you sure The GIMP can't meet your needs?
[02:45] <Sanne> Bassetts, you also might give Gimp a chance. For web work it suits me quote well.
[02:45] <Sanne> s/quote/quite/
[02:45] <voraistos> Bassetts: photoshop7 works fine with wine, if you really cant use the gimp
[02:46] <Bassetts> Ng: no unfortunetly =(
[02:46] <Bassetts> Sanne: it cant get on with GIMP
[02:46] <MarcN> Bassetts: Isn't there a version of GIMP modified to look like Photoshop?
[02:46] <gnetux> hi everybody
[02:46] <FurryNemesi> can I use wine to connect a mobile via bluetooth and install phone tools?
[02:46] <Ng> gimpshop
[02:46] <Ng> FurryNemesi: very unlikely
[02:46] <Infecto> hello
[02:47] <Infecto> i`v got problem with opera
[02:47] <voraistos> pda and stuff support sucks on linux. i cant even install ubuntu on my PDA!! a shame ....
[02:47] <Sanne> Bassetts, it takes some time, but I think it's worth it, if you want to not depend on Photoshop. But of course, do what works best for you :)
[02:47] <Infecto> i install it as is writen
[02:47] <Infecto> i install it as is writen
[02:47] <_wilson> hi ...
[02:47] <Infecto> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177449
[02:48] <voraistos> opera sucks. use firefox.
[02:48] <MarcN> FurryNemesi: there is bluetooth obex support.  depending on your device you may be able to connect and copy files to it.
[02:48] <Infecto>  but it dont wont to start forme
[02:48] <Toma-> voraistos: you want to install ubuntu, on a PDA...?
[02:48] <Bassetts> Sanne: for now i dont have the time to get used to gimp, when things are less hetic i probably will get used to it
[02:48] <mikey> hi what module do i need to add to /etc/modules
[02:48] <Ng> voraistos: please keep your opinions to yourself, we're here to help people, not preach at them :)
[02:48] <Infecto> opera: spellcheck.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:48] <Infecto> Segmentation fault
[02:48] <mikey> hi what module do i need to add to /etc/modules for a usb mouse on a laptop
[02:48] <Infecto> voraistos: for me is better than firefox
[02:48] <voraistos> toma- yea of course ;)
[02:48] <Toma-> voraistos: what PDA?
[02:48] <Sanne> Bassetts, ah, yes, I understand. If you get around to it, be sure to give the very good manual a try. You can find it on gimp.org under documentation.
[02:48] <MarcN> mikey: the defaults work fine for me.
[02:49] <Toma-> voraistos: there are other linux distros for that :)
[02:49] <voraistos> Infecto: youll see the interface is in gtk 1
[02:49] <mikey> not mine
[02:49] <burepe1> I just did an install and it seems to be hanging on "waiting for root file system" after restart. Is that normal?
[02:49] <mikey> hotplug just stops until i remove the usb mouse
[02:49] <killaz> arno, follow the instructions on this URL....
[02:49] <Infecto> i like gtk1 :) thats no problem for me
[02:49] <Bassetts> thanks Sanne
[02:49] <killaz> !vmplayer
[02:49] <Sanne> Bassetts :)
[02:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about vmplayer
[02:49] <killaz> !vmware
[02:49] <ubotu> VMWare player is in the Ubuntu repositories. Install instructions for VMWare server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[02:49] <voraistos> Toma- i know about the distros. however my PDA is HP and it wont be supported :(
[02:49] <MarcN> mikey: what version you running?  Not dapper, right?
[02:49] <gnetux> pppoe doesn't starts at boot, why?
[02:49] <mikey> breezy
[02:49] <killaz> arno,  and just look at the two vmwareplayer links..
[02:50] <voraistos> the Ipaq compaq times were nice.
[02:50] <gnetux> works only with pon dsl-provider
[02:50] <Ng> voraistos: you might be able to talk to it with synce, but I've had mixed results from it
[02:50] <mikey> voraistos : indeed
[02:50] <MarcN> voraistos: there are linux distros to install on hp/compaq iPaqs.  see http://handhelds.org/
[02:50] <voraistos> MarcN: not compatible. at all.
[02:51] <MarcN> voraistos: you mean while running PocketPC on the iPaq.  Does multisync help?  I'm a long time palm user.
[02:51] <arno> killaz: I tried it but it told me vmplayer was already installed tough it wasn't
[02:51] <gamie> hi all
[02:52] <ChristmasCpp> hi
[02:52] <killaz> arno, I just uninstalled my vmware too so I can install an evaluation... and I had the same problem...
[02:52] <killaz> arno, thouht it was your first installatrion...
[02:52] <Alth> Damnit, my X-session has gone all strange thanks to a game again...it's made my screen all high-res. I know it fixes when I log out and in again, but is there any way to fix it without that?
[02:52] <arno> ok
[02:52] <gamie> I got a question.. is there any updated firefox (for breezy) that can runs on 64 bit? I tried downloading from the getfirefox.com but it doesn't work..
[02:52] <voraistos> MarcN: i didnt try much yet. The best would be to get Linux on it of course, but all i could get is email syncing. no more. all i found on the wiki is not as good as the Microsoft sync thing.
[02:52] <killaz> arno, sorry I have the same problem and I havent figured that out either
[02:52] <Ng> Alth: high-res as in everything is far too big? if so try ctrl-alt-+ until it gets back to normal
[02:53] <mikey> eh
[02:53] <Fluxboxen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX:15 < Ng> hmm, shouldn't the vnc factoid suggest that vino uses your current session, since that's what is
[02:53] <arno> killaz: How should I do?
[02:53] <Fluxboxen> woops sorry
[02:53] <Alth> I mean low-res, oops.
[02:53] <orbin> wouldn't far too big be low-res?
[02:53] <Alth> Yes, see my correction :P
[02:53] <Alth> Hmm. That key combination did nothing.
[02:53] <Ng> orbin: that depends how he's thinking about it, but generally when a game exits and doesn't clean up after itself, its in the wrong screenmode, so I made an educated guess ;)
[02:54] <Ng> Alth: which + key did you use? try the one on the numeric keypad
[02:54] <Ng> (since the other is an = key without a shift modifier too)
[02:54] <Alth> I wasn't concentrating when I was typing it, I did mean low-res :P I was using the one on the numeric keypad, and yes, my numlock is on :)
[02:54] <burepe1> I got a problem. I did an install in to a new comp using my hdb1 drive from another computer. After restart it wasn't starting so I changed the tab things to make the drive master. Now it starts but when it gets to "waiting for root file system" and then it dumps to a command line and says "/dev/hdb1 does not exist". Is this because the drive is "hdB1" and not "hdA1" or because I changed the tabs from slave to master?
[02:55] <Ng> Alth: that's quite strange. can you type into other windows?
[02:55] <Alth> Sure.
[02:55] <Ng> hmm
[02:55] <Alth> The combination /is/ ctrl, alt and +, right?
[02:55] <Ng> yep
[02:55] <killaz> arno, what you can do... well ask here very nicely and wait patiently or google it.... I havent had time to google it yet
[02:55] <Alth> That's definitely doing nothing.
[02:55] <Ng> that should cycle down all of your available screenmodes
[02:56] <orbin> don't you mean cycle up? :P
[02:56] <Alth> My resolution is correct in Preferences > Screen Resolution, by the way.
[02:57] <Alth> And if I log out and in, it'll fix it, as I said before, but I don't want to do that at the moment :P
[02:57] <gnetux> someone could tell me how to load on boot rp-pppoe.so plugin???
[02:57] <gnetux> thanks
[02:57] <Ng> Alth: i'm not sure then, unless you happen to have the RANDR X extension loaded (try running xrandr in a terminal)
[02:58] <Alth> Apparently I do.
[02:58] <Alth> Which means what?
[02:59] <Ng> Alth: in that case you might be able to use its -s option to switch screen mode
[02:59] <Alth> xrandr -s?
[02:59] <Alth> It seems to already be set correctly.
[02:59] <Ng> Alth: run xrandr -q to get a list of available modes, then use -s to pick one. see "man xrandr"
[02:59] <Alth> *2   1024 x 768    ( 332mm x 250mm )   85   75   72   70  *60   43
[02:59] <Ng> Alth: in that case it sounds like you're going to have no choice but to log out :/
[02:59] <Alth> (I know, no pasting in channel, but it's only one line).
[03:00] <Alth> Bummer.
[03:00] <Alth> Oh well. See you guys in a minute then.
[03:00] <Varan> How long do ubuntu cd's normaly take to get to the netherlands?
[03:00] <george_looney> hello all
[03:01] <george_looney> what is "ubuntu-minimal" ?
[03:02] <george_looney> does removing it remove all its dependecies??
[03:02] <DBO> george_looney, its a meta package
[03:02] <FurryNemesi> aaaaargh!
[03:03] <george_looney> DBO, so I can remove it?
[03:03] <DBO> george_looney, the depends will only be removed if you use aptitude, and you should NOT remove it
[03:03] <george_looney> DBO, what if I use apt-get?
[03:03] <george_looney> DBO, or just dpkg?
[03:03] <DBO> george_looney, thats fine, but why?
[03:03] <killaz> well linu was a nice adventure but it slow down my productivity....
[03:04] <killaz> I have to say goodbye...
[03:04] <killaz> nice for a server... but for workstation...
[03:04] <killaz> less
[03:04] <george_looney> DBO, I had come across this dilemma with Warty?
[03:04] <DBO> its a meta-package, so no, removing it wont break anything now, but in terms of dist-upgrades in the future it might
[03:05] <george_looney> DBO, the default MTA was postfix, whereas I wanted exim
[03:05] <id10t> anyone know what to apt-get install to get kwrite on my new ubuntu system?
[03:05] <george_looney> DBO, but when I did a simulated apt-get install, it would remove postfix and ubunt-base!!
[03:05] <alth> Had to restart :(
[03:05] <Blaze^^> !grub
[03:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[03:07] <george_looney> id10t, you need "kate"
[03:07] <george_looney> id10t, its the new KWrite
[03:07] <tobberoth> I want to make a basic server, how hard is that? I basically just want a bunch of friends to be able to connect, get into a folder and view/download images.
[03:07] <MarcN> tobberoth: it is trivial
[03:07] <id10t> george_looney - thanks, i think.  is it different than the kwrite in debian sarge?
[03:08] <DBO> tobberoth, ftp servers like that a easy
[03:08] <tobberoth> Really? is there some decent tutorial around?
[03:08] <george_looney> id10t, well apt-cache show kate says "kate is a rewrite of KWrite"
[03:08] <id10t> george_looney works for me. thanks again
[03:08] <george_looney> id10t, welcome
[03:08] <tr1gg3r> george_looney: ubuntu_base is just a meta pkg used to install some default set of progs to ur system, it should be safe to remove, just keep in mind if the devs add or remove progs from the ubuntu_base meta pkg ur system wont get those updates, i doubt this would ever happen in dapper, but is likely to happen when the next version is released
[03:09] <george_looney> tr1gg3r, hmmm I guess I will learn the limits only if I push it far enough ;)
[03:11] <george_looney> ok one more question?
[03:11] <DBO> sure
[03:11] <george_looney> can anyone point me to a HOWTO which can let me make deb of the SUN JDK
[03:11] <george_looney> I don't want to enable multiverse
[03:12] <josh> whats up people... what is QT?
[03:12] <DBO> hmmm, why not just download the deb manually then?
[03:12] <DBO> josh, QT is the KDE counterpart to GTK
[03:12] <george_looney> Suen provides a deb?
[03:12] <josh> im trying to install kopete and its complaining that i dont have qt 3.3 or higher
[03:12] <DBO> george_looney, no, but you can download the deb from multiverse manually
[03:13] <josh> ok... and i get that how? got a package name possibly?
[03:13] <george_looney> DBO, ohhhhhh
[03:13] <SVisor> !X11
[03:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:13] <DBO> josh, are you compiling kopete yourself?
[03:13] <SVisor> Which packade contains the header files for X11 on ubuntu?
[03:13] <george_looney> no wonder, Sun still can't get it right yet for us people
[03:13] <josh> yeah
[03:14] <josh> synaptic doesn't have the updated version
[03:14] <DBO> josh, do "sudo apt-get build-dep kopete"
[03:14] <josh> so i dled the tar and im attempting the ./configure stage now but its complaining about me not having the QT software and libs
[03:14] <george_looney> SVisor, I think its libx11-dev
[03:15] <DShepherd> where is the xbk configuration registry?
[03:15] <josh> couldn't find the dependancies
[03:15] <SVisor> Thanks all, your probably right.
[03:16] <SVisor> I meant Thank you George :-)
[03:16] <Daniel0> where is apache2 installed when running "apt-get install apache2"?
[03:17] <xored> are there any good, free GRAPHICAL FTP clients with bookmarks / Master Password / Queues / local dir etc ?
[03:17] <DBO> josh, you may have to enable universe/multiverse i donno really
[03:17] <someothernick> gftp
[03:18] <george_looney> josh, DBO, is right
[03:18] <josh> DBO: i have just about every source i have come across
[03:19] <josh> i have multi/backports/univer sources enabled
[03:19] <george_looney> libqt4-dev is in universe
[03:19] <josh> i need all the qt files... not just the lib...
[03:19] <someothernick> josh, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758 just incase you can check to see
[03:19] <josh> and it has to be qt 3.3 > and < 4.0
[03:19] <Ng> Daniel0: in various places. the configs are in /etc/apache2/ and the web files should be in /var/www/
[03:19] <vinboy> is there any good javascript editor?
[03:20] <DShepherd> vinboy: vim?
[03:20] <DShepherd> gedit maybe?
[03:20] <george_looney> josh, libqt4-dev will pull down most of the stuff you need
[03:20] <Daniel0> Ng, how do i start it then? i can't find the executable...
[03:20] <Ng> Daniel0: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[03:21] <Daniel0> the httpd.conf is nearly empty, is that normal?
[03:21] <antox> how do I remove some /lib/modules/smth , which I do not need?
[03:21] <DShepherd> where can i find the xbk configuration registry?
[03:21] <ranpha> how can you munt a samba filsystem?
[03:21] <vinboy> gedit doesn't support javascript highlighting :(
[03:21] <josh> i already have thouse sources and a grip more that aint on there
[03:22] <josh> ok ill yank down libqt-4
[03:22] <DShepherd> vinboy: yes it does
[03:22] <josh> already have qtlib 4 dev
[03:22] <DShepherd> vinboy: view - highlight mode - scripts - javascript
[03:22] <antox> may I simply "rm" /lib/modules/ver , which I do not need?
[03:23] <vinboy> THANKSSS
[03:23] <vinboy> i didn't look in the scripts part
[03:23] <george_looney> josh, I don't where to go from here :(
[03:23] <DShepherd> antox: you can simply do anything you want.. I am not sure of the repercussions
[03:23] <DShepherd> vinboy: no problem
[03:23] <josh> me either...
[03:23] <Ng> Daniel0: yes, haev a look in /etc/apache2/ and you'll see the other bits of the conf
[03:24] <cytrak> how can I trim down ubuntu to be  something like 150mb ?
[03:24] <Daniel0> Ng: ah, okay
[03:24] <DShepherd> cytrak: unless stuff you dont need
[03:24] <josh> lol you download minix and rename it ubuntu
[03:24] <antox> DShepherd: I do not have that kernel anymore, modules are left.. is it correct to remove them just like this?
[03:24] <cytrak> hehe
[03:24] <FeestBijtje> how do i start x windows
[03:24] <DShepherd> antox: i think so.
[03:25] <DShepherd> FeestBijtje: startx?
[03:25] <josh> gdm_restart... but dont remember the directory
[03:25] <FeestBijtje> DShepherd, dousnt work
[03:25] <FeestBijtje> it says i am already in x windows system
[03:25] <george_looney> FeestBijtje: startx
[03:25] <SVisor> /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[03:25] <josh> yeah taht one
[03:25] <DShepherd> FeestBijtje: you using gnome?
[03:26] <Coraxyn> Morning
[03:26] <DShepherd> if so SVisor is right
[03:26] <DShepherd> hello
[03:26] <cytrak> hmm you guys think a virtual machine is ok for a developer station ? I wan't to compile some stuff on it and then transfer it to my CF card and see if it runs on a soekris board
[03:26] <FeestBijtje> DShepherd, yes doh :)
[03:26] <DShepherd> FeestBijtje: :P
[03:26] <SVisor> DShepherd: True, but aint everybody ;-)
[03:26] <DShepherd> SVisor: hmmm nope
[03:26] <josh> lol
[03:27] <FeestBijtje> DShepherd, when i join i mostly think about stupid questions to tease some one
[03:27] <FeestBijtje> mostly the one who responds is the donkey
[03:27] <DShepherd> FeestBijtje: :-P
[03:27] <Coraxyn> Quick(ish) question:  Ported app to Ubuntu.  It is highly threaded.  Transactions run about 100X slower than on other OS's.  Any hints, or is there way to inspect and alter time quantum?
[03:27] <FeestBijtje> DShepherd, got ya :D
[03:27] <SVisor> DShepherd: I actually thought of XFCE, but gnome was default and Im lazy
[03:27] <DShepherd> SVisor: kool
[03:27] <DShepherd> where can i find the xbk configuration registry?
[03:28] <FeestBijtje> SVisor, beeing lazy like me is un healthy i even ask my mom to open my beer
[03:28] <george_looney> Coraxyn: what language is the app in?
[03:28] <Coraxyn> ObjectPascal (FPC) using Pthreads
[03:28] <Coraxyn> Runs on other Linuxes, Darwin and Solaris ok
[03:28] <Daniel0> Ng: is it possible to restore /etc/apache2 and /etc/apache if deleted them?
[03:29] <seanlap> I am having problems with my screen resolution. I have tried all your tutorials and they dont help. My xorg.conf is setup right, and it can be found at http://rafb.net/paste/results/348Iye71.txt
[03:29] <josh> sean... can your monitor handle it?
[03:29] <zec> A question. I deleted the contents of /etc/X11/xkb dir. Where to find it again?
[03:29] <george_looney> Coraxyn: you will need some real hardcore developers to help you out
[03:29] <seanlap> Yes it is WXGA and optimized for 1280x768 but I cant get that resolution to be an option.
[03:30] <Coraxyn> George, yeah :)
[03:30] <seanlap> Its a widescreen monitor.
[03:30] <josh> ok... go to system, preferences, screen res and see if it is in ther
[03:30] <george_looney> Coraxyn: I don't think we will be able to help you out, sorry:)
[03:30] <tr1gg3r> Daniel0: u can reinstall apache2 to get the conf dir back but any settings u had would be lost
[03:30] <Coraxyn> Thanks anyway, George :)
[03:30] <george_looney> Coraxyn: welcome
[03:30] <sivanicon> If I have 4 GB of RAM, am i supposed to have a 8GB swap?
[03:31] <josh> siv NO
[03:31] <filip_> I have a strange problem here... my gftp does not work outside my lan, but it worksfine on the lan - windows computers can do ftp outside the lan without problems
[03:31] <FeestBijtje> sivanicon, no
[03:31] <george_looney> sivanicon: OMG!
[03:31] <seanlap> No its not there, the only options are 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x840
[03:31] <josh> that is way too much
[03:31] <sivanicon> lol i assumed that
[03:31] <pansyan> hey guys
[03:31] <josh> with 1 gig physical memory the most you will need is 500 m
[03:31] <tr1gg3r> sivanicon: that seems a bit overkill
[03:31] <sivanicon> i read your supposed to have double
[03:31] <zec> sivanicon you can afford to have no swap with 4 GB of RAM.
[03:31] <Ng> zec: swap is always a good idea
[03:31] <Daniel0> tr1gg3r: you mean first apt-get remove apache2 and then apt-get install apache2? i tried that, but the directories are not restored...
[03:31] <MagicFab> hello
[03:31] <pansyan> how to change the au.archive.ubuntu.com to something else
[03:31] <george_looney> filip_: which FTP client are the Windows user using?
[03:31] <Coraxyn> TTFN
[03:31] <MagicFab> has anyone tried the ubuntu desktop ppc ISO ?
[03:32] <zec> So, I deleted the contents of /etc/X11/xkb dir. Where to find it again? Which package?
[03:32] <MagicFab> it seems it's 701MB so I can't burn it to 700 MB CDs...
[03:32] <sivanicon> so 4gb ram will = 2gb swap?
[03:32] <Ng> sivanicon: you probably don't need 8gb of swap, but you should probably set some up because the kernel can use it to offload bits of RAM that aren't being used, freeing up more RAM for caches
[03:32] <DShepherd> Daniel0: try a aptitude purge apache2 then install it again
[03:32] <tr1gg3r> sivanicon: keep in mind tho if swap < total physical mem then suspend to disk wont work
[03:32] <filip_> george_looney,  filezilla or cuteftp or totolcommander
[03:32] <tr1gg3r> Daniel0: apt-get install --reinstall apache2, or apt-get remove --purge apache2 && apt-get install apache2
[03:33] <DShepherd> zec:  do you know where to find the xbk configuration registry?
[03:33] <zec> Yes. But I deleted all of the keymaps.
[03:33] <george_looney> filip_: what kind of an error does gFTP give you?
[03:33] <pipi> hi i get a BIG problem now. I dist-upgrade the my server a few hours ago. before this, everything just works( it was a ftp server for my workteam ). But after that, my eth0 went wrong. I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, and ERROR showed up. just need help
[03:33] <MagicFab> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso           30-May-2006 22:17  701M
[03:33] <DShepherd> zec: why? the
[03:33] <DShepherd> -the
[03:33] <Lukian> Can someone tell me what's in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom under the [servers]  section in their ubuntu install?
[03:33] <josh> sivanicon: no... if you have 4 gig of ram you can just run with 500M, unless you suspend like triggr mentioned
[03:33] <seanlap> Anyone know why I can't get my screen resolution to work?
[03:33] <pdlnhrd> can someone tell me how to get a trashcan onto my desktop?
[03:33] <filip_> george_looney,  I also tried with MC same result... I get the connection but then no listing back
[03:34] <DShepherd> Lukian: by defualt?
[03:34] <vieirar> Hi I am having issues with the latest fglrx driver when I log out the screen goes black and the system locks up. Also cannot switch to vt terminal. How can I install the older driver?
[03:34] <sivanicon> josh: well its goign to be an oracle server
[03:34] <Lukian> DShepherd: yes
[03:34] <Daniel0> tr1gg3r: when i try to cd into /etc/apache2 after running one of those commands it keeps saying that the directory do not exist
[03:34] <sivanicon> josh: and to tell you the truth i have no clue about disk suspend.
[03:34] <Ng> zec: you'll need to reinstall at least xkbutils and xkeyboard-config to get /etc/X11/xkb/ back
[03:35] <george_looney> filip_: I think its a PASSIVE mode FTP problem
[03:35] <DShepherd> Lukian: I think its empty by defualt. mines says 0=Xgl
[03:35] <tr1gg3r> Daniel0: even after  this ? apt-get remove --purge apache2 && apt-get install apache2
[03:35] <seanlap> Daniel0: it is all cAsE-SeNsItIvE so make sure your tying it right
[03:35] <zec> Thanks, I'll try.
[03:35] <filip_> george_looney,  I get the connection - I have tried passive...
[03:35] <Lukian> DShepherd: aye, I'm trying to remove Xgl :)
[03:35] <DShepherd> Lukian: ask in #ubuntu-xgl to make sure
[03:35] <george_looney> filip_: still no go?
[03:35] <Lukian> #ubuntu-xgl is dead
[03:35] <Daniel0> seanlap: i copied the command from here
[03:35] <seanlap> oh ok
[03:35] <Daniel0> tr1gg3r: yeah it still don't work
[03:35] <DShepherd> Lukian: ok
[03:35] <josh> ok well then you wont be suspending so... 4 gig of ram with a 500 M swap should do you fine. unless you will have a super loaded server
[03:35] <filip_> george_looney,   no go very strange...
[03:35] <DShepherd> Lukian: well dead people are talking to you
[03:35] <josh> what do you plan on using it for?
[03:36] <pansyan> my access speed to au.archive.ubuntu suckz, any way to switch to another mirror?
[03:36] <Ng> pansyan: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the au. to another country code
[03:36] <Lukian> DShepherd: :)
[03:36] <DShepherd> zec: why did you delete the directory contents in the first place
[03:36] <Ng> pansyan: then do "sudo apt-get update"
[03:36] <tr1gg3r> Daniel0: try this apt-get remove --purge apache2-common && apt-get install apache2-common
[03:36] <zec> DShepherd: Possibly am retarded.
[03:36] <george_looney> filip_: are you comfortable with command line?
[03:37] <DShepherd> zec: oh.. well I having some probs with it..
[03:37] <pansyan> Ng: thanks ;D
[03:37] <sivanicon> josh: company is switching from windows oracle to linux oracle
[03:37] <zec> DShepherd: Me too. Horribly broken for croatian layour.
[03:37] <mario> hi
[03:37] <zec> layout.
[03:37] <george_looney> sivanicon: Fun time for you dude ;)
[03:37] <DShepherd> zec: my keyboard layout options are gone, my numlock doesnt work. where is the xbk configuration registry found?
[03:37] <Daniel0> tr1gg3r: yay, it worked. thanks a lot
[03:37] <tr1gg3r> Daniel0: np
[03:37] <mario> di cosa si parla?
[03:38] <josh> yeah but that doesn't tell me what kind of load its gonna have
[03:38] <pdlnhrd> does anyone know how to create a trashcan on the desktop?  this should be pretty easy but can't find anything
[03:38] <filip_> george_looney,  Yes a litle - it dies after 227 Entering Passive Mode (195,69,130,123,4,103)
[03:38] <alterr> hello guys, I need to compile bluetooth and rfcomm modules for kernel 2.6.12-9-{686,K7}...
[03:38] <josh> what is the company do?
[03:38] <alterr> i'm using linux-source-2.6.12, but occurs a error when i try to insert the modules:
[03:38] <alterr> "insmod: error inserting 'net/bluetooth/rfcomm/rfcomm.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module"
[03:38] <josh> is it graphical? database? just normal network server?
[03:38] <george_looney> filip_: try using your browser for FTP
[03:38] <HBuzacottt> alterr, sudo probemod rfcomm
[03:39] <Ng> alterr: are you sure the kernel didn't already ship with bluetooth modules?
[03:39] <filip_> george_looney,  firefox ?
[03:39] <george_looney> filip_: somethnig like "ftp://username@ftpserver.com/"
[03:39] <george_looney> filip_: yes
[03:39] <george_looney> filip_: see if that works?
[03:39] <cytrak> is there a way to choose what services and what apps I want to have installed during the installation ?
[03:40] <josh> yeah... do custom
[03:40] <cytrak> not expert ?
[03:40] <josh> yeah that one
[03:40] <josh> lol
[03:40] <a_l_e> "cat .xmodmap | xclipboard" gives me "Error: another clipboard is already running": which tool can i use for it on ubuntu/gnome?
[03:40] <josh> not enough coffee for me yet and im on a winblows box right now
[03:40] <DShepherd> zec: you there?
[03:40] <alterr> Ng: i have applied a pacth
[03:41] <seanlap> This is my xorg.conf file http://rafb.net/paste/results/348Iye71.txt why cant I select the 1280x768 resolution in GNOME?
[03:41] <zec> DShepherd: yes, digging for files from xkb. Still haven't found them.
[03:41] <Daniel0> when running "/etc/init.d/apache start" it says
[03:41] <Daniel0> nevermind
[03:41] <DShepherd> a_l_e: there's this nice one called glipper
[03:41] <sivanicon> josh: We do crop insurance, database is 3TB, not graphical
[03:41] <HBuzacottt> cytrack, josh, expert will stil install the same components but it just gives you more config. options
[03:41] <zec> DShepherd: God help me, by tomorrow I'll be able to configure the bloody thing by hand, key by key
[03:41] <alterr> Ng: it's working on kernels: 2.6-12-10{386,686}
[03:41] <DShepherd> zec: hehe
[03:41] <cytrak> I have installed the base system only and chose not to copy remaining packages to hard disk
[03:41] <a_l_e> DShepherd: "glipper: command not found" :-(
[03:41] <filip_> george_looney,  I get 550 permission denied -- think I wil se if the root directory is worng
[03:42] <DShepherd> a_l_e: oh you need to isntall it
[03:42] <knubbe> is there any way to make eclipse faster? i think its really slow on my laptop.
[03:42] <a_l_e> DShepherd: yeah, but what is already running?
[03:42] <josh> HBuzacottt: then am i thinking "compact"?
[03:42] <cytrak> all I need is ubuntu capable of using gcc
[03:42] <lyajun> how close screensavwe in 6.06?
[03:42] <DShepherd> a_l_e: hmmm dont know...
[03:42] <HBuzacottt> HBuzacottt, is there a compact-expert?
[03:42] <josh> i remember an option for it but i never used it before
[03:42] <alterr> HBuzacottt: probemod ?
[03:42] <Ng> cytrak: sudo apt-get install build-essential :)
[03:42] <josh> ng... yeah but he wants a stripped ubuntu
[03:42] <HBuzacottt> !probemod
[03:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about probemod
[03:42] <HBuzacottt> damn
[03:43] <Ng> josh: so server install, then apt-get install build-essential :)
[03:43] <HBuzacottt> alterr, it brings up a driver/module
[03:43] <lyajun> how to close screensavwe in 6.06?
[03:43] <cytrak> Ng: cool build-essential will install all I need for compiling ? gcc, make , autoconf, flex, bison and so on
[03:43] <a_l_e> does anybody know what is the default clipboard tool for ubuntu/gnome?
[03:43] <Ng> cytrak: should do
[03:44] <DShepherd> lyajun: killall gnome-screensaver should work
[03:44] <Ng> a_l_e: there is no clipboard stuff running by default
[03:44] <Ng> a_l_e: just the built-in X11 ones
[03:44] <a_l_e> Ng: why does xclipboard tell me that another clipboard is already running?
[03:44] <lyajun> thanks
[03:44] <alterr> HBuzacottt, i do not have this ' program'  here
[03:45] <HBuzacottt> alterr, Ubuntu should come with both of those modules, just it might not be bringing them.
[03:45] <HBuzacottt> ?
[03:45] <a_l_e> Ng: or, better said: how can i use the default one from X11?
[03:45] <HBuzacottt> woops it's modprobe
[03:45] <HBuzacottt> just me being an idiot
[03:45] <alterr> HBuzacottt, hehe
[03:46] <Ng> a_l_e: hmm, perhaps something in gnome is binding itself to the clipboard then
[03:46] <josh> how do i build deb files again?
[03:46] <josh> i cant get this damn thing to compile
[03:46] <a_l_e> Ng: or even better: how can i put the content of a text file in the clipboard?
[03:46] <a_l_e> (without using the mouse)
[03:46] <Leinna> what is the default contects of /etc/mailname i dont seem to have that file and amavisd requires it
[03:46] <Ng> josh: inside a source tree with a debian/ folder, dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot
[03:47] <Ng> a_l_e: I guess you could use gedit and keyboard shortcuts, but that's hardly ideal
[03:47] <josh> ng... yeah... no its a normal ./configure/make/install folder
[03:47] <patch> how can I put music in my Sony NetMD with Ubuntu ?
[03:47] <cytrak> hm I rebooted ubuntu and asked me again for the cdrom and now its installing 1400+ pkgs which I don't think I want all that
[03:47] <_nano_> does anyone use cedega here?
[03:47] <alterr> HBuzacottt, i know this, but the problem is that there are a errror: ' -1 Unknown symbol in module'
[03:48] <a_l_e> Ng: no, gedit is not the solution for me.
[03:48] <Ng> josh: allegedly checkinstall can turn those into .deb's, but personally I wouldn't trust it
[03:48] <josh> _nano_: /join #cedega
[03:48] <george_looney> cytrak: maybe you should have gone for the alternate CD
[03:48] <HBuzacottt> josh, then you build it in a directory then dpkg....
[03:48] <Ng> patch: you mostly can't as far as I know
[03:48] <_nano_> josh: no one's around it seems in that channel
[03:48] <josh> HBuzacottt: building at working... thats why i wanna make the deb
[03:48] <josh> building isn't working
[03:49] <tritium> josh: making a .deb involved building
[03:49] <Ng> patch: actually that might be wrong, try googling for "netmd linux"
[03:49] <HBuzacottt> josh, build it in a directory with prefix=~/whatever then goto whatever and do a dpkg..
[03:49] <_nano_> josh: I just wanted to know how to specify which folders become drive C, D etc. in cedega
[03:49] <george_looney> josh: is that "configure" looking for a specific qt3.3?
[03:49] <patch> Ng: thank's a lot, I'll try googling !
[03:49] <josh> configure is looking for any qt between 3.3 and 4.0
[03:49] <HBuzacottt> alterr, did the module come with Ubuntu or did you download it?
[03:50] <josh> _nano never used cedega so i cant help you with that
[03:50] <tritium> josh: have you installed the proper -dev libraries?
[03:50] <alterr> HBuzacottt: i have applied a pacth
[03:50] <george_looney> josh: you are definitely missing the qt-dev
[03:50] <cilkay> Hello. I have a Ubuntu machine with an Intel chipset MB here that has lost networking since the user upgraded to 6.06. /etc/init.d/networking start reports: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device. lspci detects an Intel Pro/100VE NIC. Any ideas what I can try next?
[03:50] <alterr> HBuzacott: i have applied a pacth
[03:50] <josh> i got both 3.3 and 4.0 dev files
[03:51] <tritium> josh: be sure they're the -dev versions of the libs, as they contain the header files, and not just shared libs
[03:51] <josh> cilkay: yeah... get an amd :)
[03:51] <cilkay> smartass :)
[03:51] <josh> lol
[03:51] <tr1gg3r> cilkay: lsmod and make sure the module for ur card is loaded
[03:51] <cilkay> Not my machine.
[03:51] <josh> tritium: yeah they are the dev
[03:51] <alterr> HBuzacott, I think the problem occurs because linux-source for kernels 9-{686,K7} is different of the linux-source default installed for apt-get
[03:52] <josh> cilkay: then what do you care ;)
[03:52] <tritium> cilkay: is the proper module loaded for it?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> cilkay: pastebin ifconfig please?
[03:52] <cilkay> I'm lsmod ing now - don't se the NIC
[03:53] <cilkay> Hobbsee: can't pastebin since I don't have networking :) Besides, not much to see. Just lo
[03:53] <MagicFab> where are the ubuntu DVD ISOs ?
[03:53] <tr1gg3r> cilkay: then u need to modprobe the module for ur card and then try restarting networking
[03:53] <Hobbsee> cilkay: ah ok
[03:53] <HBuzacott> alterr, perhaps but if they are both 2.6.x or bot 2.4.x it should be fine
[03:53] <tritium> cilkay: make sure the proper module is loaded.  Check your dmesg output as well
[03:53] <apokryphos> MagicFab: on the download area
[03:53] <george_looney> cilkay: I think the module is eeprom
[03:54] <alterr> HBuzacott, humm, but it's working on kernel 2.6.12-10-{386,686,686-smp}
[03:54] <george_looney> cilkay: one of thee ee* modules
[03:54] <tritium> cilkay: which model is it?  Intel Pro what?
[03:54] <HBuzacott> altrr, is it working on another machine but not on another?
[03:55] <TENTACLE> hi everyone..
[03:55] <cilkay> tritium: 82801DB PRO/100 VE (LOM) rev 81
[03:55] <labanux> tes
[03:55] <tritium> cilkay: you need e100 loaded, then
[03:56] <alterr> HBuzacott, in the machine with kernels 2.6.12-10-{386,686,686-smp}
[03:56] <labanux> does ubuntu has CD/DVD's repesitory?
[03:56] <cilkay> tritium: that did it. Thank you all.
[03:56] <MagicFab> apokryphos, I see, at the end of the page
[03:56] <MagicFab> apokryphos, tx.
[03:56] <alterr> HBuzacott:ops, in the same machine
[03:56] <HBuzacott> alterr, but it should work for all 2.6 series kernels
[03:57] <planetcalls> labanyou can add local copy of ubuntu as your repository
[03:57] <tritium> cilkay: be sure to append "e100" to /etc/modules, if it's not already there
[03:57] <HBuzacott> alterr, I just don't know why it wouldn't be working.
[03:57] <alterr> HBuzacott,  ' should '  :-)
[03:57] <josh> hey if i just coment out the part in the ./config script that looks for those files... what will happen :)
[03:57] <tritium> cilkay: one would think it would be autoloaded, but it seems that it wasn't
[03:58] <alterr> HBuzacott: ok, thanks for all
[03:58] <cilkay> tritium: will do. This only needs to live long enough for me to strip the data off it. I'm buying an AMD just because josh said I should :)
[03:58] <labanux> e
[03:58] <tritium> cilkay: :)
[03:58] <avalost> !e17
[03:58] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:58] <HBuzacott> alterr, as always it should work right out of the box but he, it never does :)
[03:58] <josh> lol cilkay
[03:58] <labanux> does ubuntu has CD/DVD's repesitory??
[03:58] <labanux> like debian has 14 Repesitory CD's
[03:59] <Ng> labanux: do you mean discs with the full package repository? if so I don't think so
[03:59] <labanux> if ubuntu has, where can i download those CD's or DVD's?
[03:59] <labanux> Ng yeah.. that's i mean..
[03:59] <tritium> labanux: there are DVDs.  I'm not sure what they contain.
[04:00] <Ng> labanux: perhaps http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en ?
[04:00] <dgl> Hi, anyone can help me to make a raid 1?
[04:00] <edneymatias> morning all!
[04:00] <labanux> tritium: i've heard about that, but i don't really understand what it's mean. :(
[04:00] <HBuzacott> edneymatias, it is 1200 midnight here
[04:01] <edneymatias> so...night all!
[04:01] <HBuzacott> edneymatias, eh, whatever
[04:01] <edneymatias> here it's 11 am
[04:01] <edneymatias> :)
[04:01] <HBuzacott> :)
[04:01] <labanux> Ng: i'am trying to find out ..
[04:01] <muhsin> i cant use DIEZ (alt + 3) char, how to use ?
[04:01] <dgl> Can I make raid 1 with an entire disk?
[04:02] <HBuzacott> dgl, you need more than one disk for raid
[04:02] <dgl> yes, i know
[04:02] <Ng> dgl: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html
[04:02] <dgl> HBuzacott, I have 2 SATA disks
[04:02] <labanux> tritium: So ubuntu doesn't made it officially..?
[04:02] <tritium> labanux: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/
[04:03] <GNeRaL> i cant use DIEZ (alt + 3) char, how to use ?
[04:03] <dgl> Ng, I ve tried this documentation
[04:03] <tritium> labanux: other than those dvd images, you can get package either from the repositories, or from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <HBuzacott> dgl, You should be able to set up a software RAID 1 config. useing SATA disk 1 (the second one) as the mirror
[04:03] <labanux> tritium: wait a minute..
[04:04] <dgl> HBuzacott, ok, but I have to do this at instalatin time or can be done after?
[04:04] <dgl> HBuzacott, have I to do this at instalation time or can be it done after?
[04:04] <HBuzacott> dgl, I think it can be done post-installation
[04:04] <tritium> Hobbsee: are you in Paris?
[04:04] <HBuzacott> dgl, but you can do it at installation
[04:04] <Hobbsee> tritium: nope
[04:05] <skunkworks> does dapper take advantage of 2 proccessors?
[04:05] <tritium> Hobbsee: nor am I...
[04:05] <tritium> skunkworks: yes
[04:05] <HBuzacott> skunkworks, yup
[04:05] <Hobbsee> tritium: a lot of people in #ubuntu-devel are
[04:05] <batte> hi all, when i plug in my webcam i cant get an image ... i think it has something to do with my tv card
[04:05] <batte> is it possible to edit the input source?
[04:05] <tritium> Hobbsee: i know...
[04:05] <dgl> HBuzacott, I ve tried to this at installatin, but I cant
[04:06] <tritium> Hobbsee: oh well
[04:06] <HBuzacott> dgl, in the installation you should get to the partition bit, select manually edit the partion table, select software RAID
[04:06] <HBuzacott> dgl, it should guide you through from there
[04:07] <skunkworks> thanks
[04:07] <labanux> tritium: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/ <-- this only provides the standard installation CD
[04:07] <labanux> tritium: i don't have any internet connection at home, so I need the repesitory available offline. (From CD/DVD's..)
[04:07] <tritium> labanux: sorry, then
[04:07] <dgl> I ve tried, but it seems doesnt working fine
[04:07] <labanux> tritium: So far i'm using Debian, because i can download almost all it's packages.. in 14 CD's
[04:07] <dgl> HBuzacott, I ve tried, but it seems doesnt working fine
[04:08] <tritium> labanux: those are more than the standard install CDs.  They're DVDs with around 3.3 GB of stuff on them
[04:08] <batte> nyone has some expierience with webcams?
[04:08] <MarcN> batte: I have a webcam.  works great with dapper.  Creative Live Pro 5 I think. USB.
[04:09] <labanux> tritium: oh.., i'am sorry i just know that..
[04:09] <batte> yes i have dapper distro
[04:09] <dgl> HBuzacott, when I tried to this at post-installation I couldnt raid 1 at / because it was mounted
[04:09] <labanux> tritium: but it still doesn't contain all the packages does it?
[04:09] <batte> MarcN: but there seems to be a problem
[04:09] <HBuzacott> dgl, Do you have a third disk?
[04:09] <tritium> labanux: no, you're right
[04:09] <dgl> HBuzacott, no
[04:09] <nanomad> i'm trying to install ubuntu via debootstrab, but base-config doesn't exist any more. what should i use?
[04:09] <MarcN> batte: just say what the problem is!
[04:10] <HBuzacott> dgl, What do you want to do? Why the mirroring?
[04:10] <dylan_> Is Ubuntu all free software?
[04:10] <batte> I have a pci TV-card and it gives conflicts ... the sistro thinks it has to get images from there ipv the webcam
[04:10] <dgl> HBuzacott, it will be a server and I need raid 1 to make it safe
[04:10] <HBuzacott> nanomad, ubuntu-base
[04:10] <HBuzacott> dylan_, yep
[04:11] <dylan_> HBuzacott, I heard that open does not constitute free, but that's not what Ubuntu advertises.
[04:11] <nanomad> HBuzacott, this isnt base-config...this is a metapackage to install everything
[04:11] <nanomad> HBuzacott, needed for the base system
[04:11] <batte> is there a way to configure the video4linux codec
[04:11] <MarcN> batte: what are you using to view the webcam images? gqcam lets you pick the video device to use
[04:11] <Ng> dylan_: there are additional repositories for less free software, but the main (ie supported) tree is free
[04:12] <dylan_> Ng, is Universe free?
[04:12] <HBuzacott> nanomad, sorry I thougt you wanted to install the base of Ubuntu
[04:12] <batte> MarcN: ill install teh programm ... w8 a sec
[04:12] <nanomad> HBuzacott, no...i want the old base-config back! I wonder why they removed it....i cannot do a chrooted install anymore
[04:12] <Ng> dylan_: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:13] <dylan_> thanks Ng
[04:13] <HBuzacott> dylan_, there is a differents between Free Software and Open Source, Free Software has more liberty attained to it, Open Source is the more commercial term
[04:13] <nanomad> HBuzacott, the odd part is that no base-config --> no xen in ubuntu :(
[04:13] <HBuzacott> nanomad, because it was a transitional package
[04:14] <nanomad> HBuzacott, transitional to what? what is its substitute?
[04:14] <tiagoboldt> !xgl
[04:14] <dgl> HBuzacott, should I use alternate or server to make raids?
[04:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:14] <dylan_> HBuzacott, but basically Universe is free, but Multiverse is not?
[04:14] <HBuzacott> dgl, I though server would be fine if you don't need a GUI
[04:15] <rendo> Ubuntu can install on Ibooks right?
[04:15] <HBuzacott> dylan_, correct. The Ubuntu CD's contain only FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) and the same with the Universe Repo.
[04:15] <dgl> HBuzacott, ok, is there a way to use the second raid disk without partioning it?
[04:15] <_stefan> what is the CPU clock in the bios?
[04:15] <SeanTater> dylan_: Main is open source software maintained by Ubuntu, universe is open source software maintained by volunteers, multiverse is not  open-source or illegal software not maintained by anyone
[04:16] <HBuzacott> dgl, ?
[04:16] <rendo> Can Ubuntu install on MACs that are Ibooks?
[04:16] <krazykit> rendo: yep
[04:16] <rendo> Thank you.
[04:17] <HBuzacott> _stefan, CPU clock is the Clock Speed of your processor, eg. 3.2 Ghz
[04:18] <_stefan> HBuzacott: is FSB the same?
[04:18] <dylan_> SeanTater, so what is restricted?  is that still open?
[04:18] <Denstark> For some reason, apt-get is not letting me install a package. It says: Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:18] <Denstark> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:18] <Denstark> is only available from another source
[04:18] <Denstark> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[04:18] <Denstark> oops. didn't mean to flood.
[04:19] <Ng> dylan_: did you not read the url I gave you? ;)
[04:19] <dylan_> Ng, it wont open
[04:19] <dylan_> Ng, could you explain it to me?
[04:19] <rdz> !wlan
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about wlan
[04:19] <voraistos> "multiverse is not  open-source or illegal software not maintained by anyone" depends if you live in the US or not.
[04:19] <daved> i need some guidance setting up gfs on ubuntu, anyone have any experience?
[04:19] <voraistos> most people dont
[04:19] <Ng> dylan_: restricted is stuff that is non-free, but too useful not to distribute
[04:20] <HBuzacott> _stefan, no, FSB is your frontsidebus. The way that the speed of you processor is entered is the FSB speed (eg. 800mhz) and a multiplier (4) which would give a clock speed of 3.2 Ghz.
[04:20] <voraistos> i remember the times when multipliers were <10
[04:21] <voraistos> crazy intel chips, mostly
[04:21] <HBuzacott> dylan_, please continue the FOSS discution on #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:22] <NoUse> Denstark did you enable universe and multiverse?
[04:22] <Denstark> NoUse: Yes, I believe so
[04:23] <Panzerboy> hey all
[04:23] <NoUse> Denstark pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <NoUse> !tell Denstark about pastebin
[04:24] <jrattner1> ubotu tell Denstark about repos
[04:24] <Denstark> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16179
[04:25] <NoUse> Denstark just copy the repos ubotu sent you
[04:26] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Can I password protect a folder in my home directory"?
[04:26] <jrattner1> ?
[04:26] <Ng> jrattner1: nope
[04:26] <Ng> jrattner1: or at least, not without some pretty significant effort
[04:26] <jrattner1> Ng, seriously'? are you sure about that, it seems kind of odd not to have a way to password protect a folder
[04:27] <pekay> !maintenance
[04:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about maintenance
[04:27] <pekay> aff
[04:27] <HBuzacott> jrattner1, you can make it so that other users cannot read a folder
[04:28] <jrattner1> HBuzacott, no im looking to password protect a folder
[04:28] <HBuzacott> jrattner1, so you can make it so only root can access a folder, therefor requiring a password
[04:28] <Ng> jrattner1: you'd need to make a little encrypted filesystem and mount it in your home directory, but that's still not really the same thing. UNIX-like operating systems tend to assume that you use permissions to control access
[04:28] <jrattner1> HBuzacott, nahh still not good enough : )
[04:29] <jrattner1> Well im not looking for encryption nescarilly, i just want to password protect a directory; but i understand that I may have to encrypt it in order to password protect it
[04:30] <HBuzacott> wtf
[04:30] <jrattner1> hehe
[04:30] <Ng> jrattner1: even then, once its mounted it won't ask for a password again, so acecss would still just be controlled by permissions
[04:30] <Seveas> split splat
[04:30] <apokryphos> !netsplit
[04:30] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:31] <Seveas> wp splitters 
[04:31] <Seveas> wb even
[04:31] <jrattner1> So really theres no effective way of password protecting a unix directory....?
[04:31] <GNeRaL> 
[04:31] <GNeRaL> woww
[04:32] <Ng> jrattner1: correct. on linux at least.
[04:32] <carlk> jrattner1, there are various ways of doing what you want
[04:32] <Krhis> Anysuggestions on how to keep my eggdrop bot running when I exit of my ssh connection?
[04:32] <Ng> Krhis: screen
[04:32] <carlk> Ng, you need to think outside the box ;)
[04:32] <darky> hi all
[04:32] <jrattner1> carlk, like???
[04:32] <Ng> carlk: stun me ;)
[04:32] <jksd> Krhis: edit your logout file to kill it?
[04:32] <darky> i have problems installing my BROTHER DCP-110C printer (usb)
[04:33] <carlk> gime a sec..
[04:33] <gnomefreak> Krhis: try asking in #debian-bots or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <cytrak> ok expoert mode didn't work it installed all this crap X gnome and more apps I don't need
[04:33] <HBuzacott> darky, what is wrong?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> cytrak: server install
[04:33] <cytrak> doesn't give me a choice whether I want' samba or not installed
[04:33] <Krhis> I'm checking out Ng's suggestion right now.
[04:33] <Krhis> screen might work.
[04:34] <krazykit> cytrak: if you didn't want that stuff, why didn't you use the server install?
[04:34] <HBuzacott> darky, does the printer install or does in just not print?
[04:34] <BCK> hmm why is ubuntu not letting me write to my fat partition ?
[04:34] <darky> i am trying to install apt-get install lprng
[04:34] <BCK> even when i sudo nautilus
[04:34] <cytrak> I wish it would allow me to choose what packages I want
[04:34] <BCK> it wont allow me to
[04:34] <cytrak> krazykit: good ?
[04:34] <darky> but he wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[04:34] <gnomefreak> cytrak: i dont think any install will let you do that
[04:35] <gnomefreak> darky: that is ok
[04:35] <apokryphos> !tell darky about ubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, freesbsd will : )
[04:35] <cytrak> gnomefreak: i see
[04:35] <darky> yeah.. well i will have no desktop then ?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: ubuntu
[04:35] <jrattner1> ahh
[04:35] <gnomefreak> darky: no
[04:35] <apokryphos> darky: check your /msg from ubotu
[04:35] <krazykit> cytrak: you can use the server install to pull in a minimal system, and then pick what else you want on top of that
[04:35] <gnomefreak> darky: its a meta package you can get rid of it
[04:35] <gnomefreak> darky: you will not lose anything
[04:36] <cytrak> krazykit: as I'm a new ubuntu user I ask... pick from where ? the installation process or using that apt-get cmds ?
[04:36] <darky> aha.. and i just need to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (after i instal lprng)
[04:36] <darky> ?
[04:36] <BCK> hmm why is ubuntu not letting me write to my fat partition ? even if i sudo nautilus it still wont allow me to
[04:36] <krazykit> cytrak: apt-get stuff
[04:36] <carlk> jrattner1, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Loopback-Encrypted-Filesystem-HOWTO.html
[04:37] <Denstark> BCK: try doing it from CLI and post what errors you get
[04:37] <darky> OK .. here it gose... wish me luck :p
[04:37] <Ng> carlk: that's not very outside the box, and I covered encrypted filesystems already. it's not a password protected folder in that once its mounted anyone with permission can view it, just like a regular folder
[04:37] <jrattner1> carlk, let me take a look
[04:37] <BCK> Denstark: it says permission denied
[04:37] <BCK> but all users have write/read acces and all groups ?
[04:38] <carlk> ng - set the rights on the dir to only the owner?
[04:38] <carlk> ng - sorry if I have missed your whole 'thread; - just got here
[04:38] <Ng> carlk: at which point you might as well just mkdir and chmod 700 ;)
[04:39] <carlk> ng - i see your point
[04:40] <BCK> how do i unmount from CLI ?
[04:40] <yygdrasil> MoDaX, so how can Ubuntu claim they only use Free and Open Source Software when they have the restricted component?
[04:40] <Ng> BCK: with the umount command
[04:40] <BCK> im sure ive tried that
[04:40] <BanskuZ> hmm
[04:40] <NoUse> BCK run 'mount' and pastebin the output
[04:40] <BCK> Ng: sudo: unmount: command not found
[04:40] <HBuzacott> yygdrasil, because the ristricted/multiverse repos. are optional and not Free
[04:40] <NoUse> BCK umount, not unmount
[04:41] <Ng> BCK: umount, not unmount
[04:41] <BanskuZ> Default install doesn't include restricted components
[04:41] <BCK> oh ok
[04:41] <Ng> it really helps if you read :)
[04:41] <vieirar> Hi how can I install older fglrx drivers?
[04:41] <BCK> :P
[04:41] <yygdrasil> HBuzacott, Multiverse is the only restricted portion
[04:41] <yygdrasil> ?
[04:41] <Ng> no, multiverse and restricted contain non-free software
[04:41] <Frogzoo> BCK: 'sudo umount /filesystem'
[04:41] <BCK> NoUse: i can now write to new dir, i just created
[04:42] <BCK> Frogzoo:  got it ty :)
[04:42] <pm> anyone installed new ubuntu on hp nx8220? i need some info
[04:42] <BCK> how do i delete a folder from CLI?
[04:42] <OneSeventeen> I freed up a partition and gave it a mount point that already existed, now the files that were in the existing folder are gone... can I recover them?
[04:42] <Ng> BCK: rm -r /path/to/some/folder/
[04:42] <nich0s> hey allz
[04:42] <HBuzacott> !tell yygdrasil about multiverse
[04:43] <vieirar> I cannot find any old downloads or find any on ati.com site.
[04:43] <BCK> ty Ng :)
[04:43] <HBuzacott> !tell yygdrasil about multiverse
[04:43] -nich0s:#ubuntu-  K.I.T.T 2005 BOT VOICE ALL OFF
[04:43] <Frogzoo> pm: that a lappie?
[04:43] <pm> frogzoo, yes it is
[04:43] <Hobbsee> nich0s: please dont do that
[04:43] <Frogzoo> nich0s: please don't use ansi color codes - it annoys people
[04:44] <Frogzoo> !tell pm about laptops
[04:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about laptops
[04:44] <carlk> jrattner1, Ng - what about EncFS?  http://arg0.net/wiki/encfs
[04:44] <Frogzoo> ubotu you there?
[04:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about you there?
[04:44] <pianoboy3333> How do I delete an emblem I added into nautilus
[04:44] <GNeRaL> i cant use special chars(like alt + 1-9 numbers) on my ubuntu (i use notebook)
[04:44] <GNeRaL> what should i do
[04:44] <HBuzacott> !tell pm about laptop
[04:45] <HBuzacott> its laptop not s
[04:45] <Frogzoo> !tell pm about laptops
[04:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about laptops
[04:45] <HBuzacott> it's laptop
[04:45] <HBuzacott> !laptop
[04:45] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:46] <pm> info on wiki are too general
[04:46] <pm> i need some more
[04:46] <OneSeventeen> Is it possible to recover data in Dapper?
[04:47] <NoUse> OneSeventeen you mean like undelete?
[04:47] <HBuzacott> OneSeventeen, unless it is in the Trash nope
[04:47] <DBO> OneSeventeen, depends how you deleted the data, but generally no, not without going to some rather expensive and technically hard procedures
[04:48] <pm> well, thanks any way
[04:48] <NoUse> google 'undelete ext3' and you'll find some tools but do it quickly
[04:48] <pm> good bye and good lick
[04:48] <OneSeventeen> Nouse, DBO, HBuzacott: I formatted a partition (that had no data), then I told it I want it to be the mount-point of "/home/oneseventeen/Documents"  being stupid and not reading the manual first, this of course removed my 10GB+ of data in my Documents folder
[04:48] <Frogzoo> OneSeventeen: it depends on the file system - reiser - yes, ext 2 yes, ext3 no
[04:48] <OneSeventeen> Frogzoo ext3 :(
[04:49] <HBuzacott> OneSeventeen, I'm sorry to say but, bad luck :(
[04:49] <NoUse> OneSeventeen if you just mounted it over that folder, just unmount it
[04:49] <NoUse> OneSeventeen the data should still be there
[04:49] <Frogzoo> OneSeventeen: your docs are probly still there - just unmount the file system you mounted over the top of it...
[04:50] <Enursha> Anyone know how to conenct to a wireless server that hasn't got a password? it'll connect fine to my home router (WEP password) and at the bar (were this password-less router is) if i boot into windows.
[04:50] <HBuzacott> NoUse, I've done the same thing once and I lost the data when I unmounted
[04:50] <HBuzacott> NoUse, make that the data was still lost
[04:50] <Frogzoo> HBuzacott: you probly did something different - the data should be intact, just not accessible
[04:50] <NoUse> HBuzacott I've done that before and my data wasn't lost
[04:50] <HBuzacott> OK
[04:51] <HBuzacott> OneSeventeen, ignore me
[04:51] <OneSeventeen> NoUse, Frogzoo: I did it through the Disk management tool, and I've already used the same tool to disable the partition, and it still won't work..
[04:51] <NoUse> OneSeventeen is it unmounted?
[04:51] <NoUse> OneSeventeen does it show up in the output of 'mount'
[04:51] <OneSeventeen> NoUse: how do I make sure it is unmounted?
[04:51] <phoenix_> s
[04:51] <Frogzoo> OneSeventeen: does mount show it mounted or not? just 'sudo umount /filesystem'
[04:52] <OneSeventeen> NoUse: ahh, yes it is mounted... should I just umount /home/oneseventeen/Documents?
[04:52] <Nookie^> i have a friend who has just installed linux for the first time and he talks to me thru irc but it's imposible for him to update sources... Plz he needs help
[04:52] <Nookie^> anyone??
[04:52] <NoUse> OneSeventeen yes
[04:52] <NoUse> Nookie^ we need specifics, "impossible" doesn't give us much to go on
[04:53] <Nookie^> NoUse: when he tries to run apt-get update it stands on 0%
[04:53] <Nookie^> it wont update
[04:53] <HBuzacott> Nookie^, what does a sudo apt-get update?
[04:53] <HBuzacott> give him
[04:53] <OneSeventeen> NoUse, Frogzoo, HBuzacott: WOOHOO!  7.8GB of data is now accessible!!!  Now I'll make a backup, and look at the wiki to find out how to mount /home/ to another partition after-the-fact
[04:53] <Nookie^> it just starts to try to update but it stands at 0%
[04:54] <HBuzacott> OneSeventeen, good that you didn't listen to me
[04:54] <Frogzoo> OneSeventeen: cool - unix can seem a bit mysterious at times :/
[04:54] <NoUse> Nookie^ can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:54] <Nookie^> he has the same as i do
[04:54] <Nookie^> one sec
[04:54] <Nookie^> http://www.kbfx.org/nookie/janne.txt
[04:54] <Nookie^> here are the sources
[04:54] <HBuzacott> Nookie^, can you tell him to join #ubuntu?
[04:54] <Nookie^> here is here i think
[04:55] <Nookie^> wait
[04:55] <HBuzacott> or her
[04:55] <Frogzoo> !tell Nookie^ about enter
[04:55] <clusty> just a short question. how can i mount a FAT partition so that all users can write to it?
[04:55] <apokryphos> clusty: check the FAQ
[04:56] <NoUse> clusty add uname=0000 to the options in fstab
[04:56] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: im here
[04:56] <Frogzoo> !ntfs
[04:56] <clusty> thanx
[04:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:56] <BCK> grrr
[04:56] <Enursha> Anyone know how to conenct to a wireless server that hasn't got a password? it'll connect fine to my home router (WEP password) and at the bar (were this password-less router is) if i boot into windows.
[04:56] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, welcome. you can't update your sources?
[04:56] <BCK> i cant seem to do copy to my drive ?
[04:56] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: nope
[04:56] <Enursha> Home router is a Netgear, bar is a USRobtics
[04:57] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: im a total newbee on linux
[04:57] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, that where everyone starts
[04:57] <BCK> i keep getting error: cp: cannot create directory `/media/Music/afi': Read-only file system
[04:57] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, what is wrong
[04:57] <HBuzacott> ?
[04:57] <NoUse> BCK what is the ouput of  'mount'
[04:57] <jrattner1> BCK, use sudo
[04:57] <clusty> NoUse, not working
[04:57] <BCK> jrattner1:
[04:57] <BCK> i did
[04:57] <NoUse> clusty did you umount it and remount it?
[04:57] <BCK> cp: cannot create directory `/media/Music/afi': Read-only file system
[04:58] <robinsw> Ello, guys... installed Ubuntu, but my screen size won't go any higher than 1024x768... it was 1152x864 under windows.
[04:58] <BCK> thats what i typed
[04:58] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: well as it seems i cant update my sources
[04:58] <clusty> NoUse, does not remount
[04:58] <robinsw> How can I force the X server into that display mode?
[04:58] <BCK> !paste
[04:58] <NoUse> clusty then you probably put the option in wrong
[04:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:58] <clusty> NoUse,  /dev/sda2       /media/fat      vfat    users,defaults,uname=0000  0       1
[04:58] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, open the Terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[04:58] <NoUse> clusty oh I'm sorry
[04:58] <NoUse> clusty it should be umask=0000
[04:58] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: Done, but it freezes on 0%
[04:58] <robinsw> Installed Ubuntu, but my screen size won't go any higher than 1024x768... it was 1152x864 under windows.
[04:58] <robinsw> How can I force the X server into that display mode?
[04:59] <BCK> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16180
[04:59] <Denstark> robinsw: what kind of video card do you have
[04:59] <krang> hey where's a good place to stick an icon pack if I'm going to out a hard link from the users' home folders?
[04:59] <NoUse> !tell robinsw about fixres
[04:59] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, type: sudo apt-get update -f
[04:59] <clusty> NoUse, gorgeous. thanx . working
[04:59] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: still the same
[05:00] <Slyboots> What does Ubuntu use to show up that Splash-screen at bootup?
[05:00] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, is that your source list at http://www.kbfx.org/nookie/janne.txt?
[05:00] <krang> I know it'll work anywhere, but I'd like to obey directory structure etiquette
[05:00] <robinsw> Denstark, GeForce 4 MX
[05:00] <apokryphos> Slyboots: usplash
[05:00] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: yepp
[05:00] <Slyboots> Thank you
[05:00] <elephanthunter> I'm needing to resize my ext3 linux partition so that I can install XP and dual-boot. I know that I am doing this is the wrong order, and I can always fix the MBR later, but what's the easiest way to go about resizing the ext3 partition?
[05:00] <BCK> NoUse: any idea's ???
[05:00] <apokryphos> Slyboots: /msg ubotu usplash, for more info
[05:01] <NoUse> BCK pastebin 'ls -ld /media/*'
[05:01] <BCK> ok
[05:01] <OneSeventeen> What is the easiest way to administer MySQL in Ubuntu Dapper (with a gui)
[05:01] <NoUse> OneSeventeen phpmyadmin
[05:01] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, I'll make you up a new one
[05:02] <OneSeventeen> NoUse: oddly enough, the new phpmyadmin hasn't worked for me, each time I set a password for root, it tells me I need to "configure a server", even after I run the "configure a server" script....
[05:02] <BCK> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16181
[05:02] <Guardian> hello, is there a kernel driver for broadcom 4306 wireless network adapter ???
[05:02] <Guardian> i heard support might come but i'm not sure it's available yet
[05:02] <HBuzacott> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:02] <HBuzacott> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## distribution.
[05:02] <HBuzacott> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:02] <HBuzacott> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe
[05:02] <Guardian> i mean, without using ndiswrapper
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## repository.
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:02] <HBuzacott> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[05:03] <HBuzacott> ## team.
[05:03] <HBuzacott> # deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:03] <HBuzacott> # deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:03] <NoUse> oy
[05:03] <Guardian> nice
[05:03] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: well that wasnt to good
[05:03] <elephanthunter> poor guy :(
[05:03] <Guardian> my question is inside the flood
[05:03] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: well that wasnt to good
[05:03] <HBuzacott> Sorry about that I mistyped
[05:03] <NoUse> BCK try adding umask=0000 to  the fstab options for that drive
[05:03] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[05:03] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[05:03] <BCK> ok
[05:03] <jrattner1> Guardian, use the bcmcutter utility
[05:04] <gnomefreak> ^^^ Guardian
[05:04] <QPAD|warlock-O-> I'm using ubuntu 5.10 server and it seems like I only have 1 preccsor working? I have 2 intel p4 dual core 3.2
[05:04] <BCK> NoUse: ill pastebin my fstab ?
[05:04] <NoUse> BCK sure
[05:04] <elephanthunter> !partitions
[05:04] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[05:04] <Slyboots> Hmm.. I realy suck at artwork, I dont suppose there are Pre-made usplash images?
[05:04] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- what kernel are you running?
[05:04] <Slyboots> Perhaps someone has already thought of the general design I am after
[05:04] <jrattner1> Guardian, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[05:04] <elephanthunter> Arr... is there any way to easily resize my ext3 partition?
[05:04] <BCK> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16182
[05:05] <dee> hello.
[05:05] <thomaswebb> hello all
[05:05] <Frogzoo> elephanthunter: if it's your / or /usr partition, not really - otherwise, unmount it & run qparted
[05:05] <nich0s> Larger or smaller?
[05:05] <nich0s> hello
[05:05] <gnomefreak> elephanthunter: gparted should do it
[05:05] <NoUse> BCK try making it 4 zeros for umask
[05:05] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, 1sec.
[05:05] <NoUse> BCK then umount it and remount it
[05:05] <BCK> NoUse: i shall try :)
[05:05] <QPAD|warlock-O-> 2.6.12-9-686
[05:05] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse
[05:05] <elephanthunter> but I'd have to unmount to use gparted if it's my root partition, right?
[05:05] <dee> I have a little problem with Grub: After the Update in Dapper from last Weekend, I only see "GRUB _" when I start the PC.
[05:06] <dee> I do know how to solve it but I want to know what's the cause...
[05:06] <Frogzoo> elephanthunter: exactly - if it's your root partition - you'll need to boot off a live cd, then run gparted
[05:06] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- you need the kernel ending in -smp
[05:06] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- install 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16182
[05:06] <elephanthunter> o.o totally forgot about that live cd!
[05:06] <gnomefreak> dee: will the esc key give you a grub menu?
[05:06] <elephanthunter> thanks Frogzoo :P
[05:06] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- oops wrong text, install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[05:06] <BCK> NoUse:  thanks a bunch worked :D
[05:07] <NoUse> BCK cool
[05:07] <gnomefreak> !gparted > elephanthunter
[05:07] <kidwithjedipower> I'm looking to get help with a specific question regarding the evolution mail/calendar program, can anyone help me here, or an I in the wrong place?
[05:07] <BCK> many thanks :D
[05:07] <dee> gnomefreak: hm... I have use several keys but not teh Esc-Key... I must try this first.
[05:07] <QPAD|warlock-O-> thanks NoUse, i will try it
[05:07] <QPAD|warlock-O-> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[05:07] <QPAD|warlock-O-> correct ?
[05:07] <thomaswebb> i am new to Ubuntu (only installed 6.06 today, i was using Fedora before). I have a few problems, but nothing major and i will probably come back on here to bug you all about them later. Main thing was for me to test the internet, i have two connections, one adsl on lan and one adsl on a wlan, and it looks like BT is blocking most ports on the lan line
[05:07] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- should be
[05:07] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: where did u go?
[05:07] <QPAD|warlock-O-> should grr :)
[05:07] <kismet> Where ubuntu store firmware for DVB cards?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> dee: the esc key will "unhide" it
[05:07] <gnomefreak> if its hidden
[05:07] <QPAD|warlock-O-> Installing
[05:07] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, still here
[05:07] <krang> hey where's a good place to stick an icon pack if I'm going to put a hard link from the users' home folders? I know it'll work anywhere, but I'd like to put it in the "right" place. Would /usr/share/icons be appropriate?
[05:08] <dee> gnomefreak: okay, and is there log that I can see what causes the error?
[05:08] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, I just was kicked because I pasted by whole sources.list out
[05:08] <BCK> NoUse: error is back
[05:08] <babo> hi guys, what's the best way to remove newlines from a page ? ... I've done a replace /r/n in gedit but it doesn't register ... ?
[05:08] <krang> oh wait, it's already there
[05:08] <BCK> it happens after i modify the drive
[05:08] <BCK> for example copy something
[05:08] <gnomefreak> dee: that i dont know check inside your /var/logg folder i know theres a system file but i dont know if grub is
[05:08] <NoUse> BCK run 'dmesg' and see if it has any errors about the drive
[05:08] <BCK> ok
[05:09] <BCK> it does
[05:09] <BCK> no clue what they mean tho :(
[05:09] <NoUse> BCK pastebin please
[05:09] <gnomefreak> /var/log*
[05:09] <dee> gnomefreak: i think that Grub don't know anything abou /var/log because it doesn't know / (I mean the root-Directory)... But I will check this with Esc. Thanks!
[05:10] <kidwithjedipower> I'm looking for application-specific help (evolution), is there anyone here who can help me?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> dee: grub may write to the syslog or systemlog whatever its ccalled
[05:10] <BCK> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16183
[05:10] <gnomefreak> what app kidwithjedipower?
[05:10] <kFL> hi... please tell me where to add my DNS nameservers ?
[05:11] <kidwithjedipower> evolution mail/calendar program
[05:11] <fijam> hello. Has anyone tried Enlightment on Ubuntu?
[05:11] <Snow_Shelter> where do I go to find out what package includes soundwrapper, because synaptic can't find it
[05:11] <gnomefreak> kidwithjedipower: whats the issue?
[05:11] <NoUse> BCK run scandisk or fsck.vfat on that drive
[05:11] <gnomefreak> it crashes?
[05:11] <BCK> ok NoUse
[05:11] <nf4> i followed the guide for installing nvidia glx drivers but they arent installed properly when i type "glxinfo | grep rendering" it says some like Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". I dont know what i did worng any one any idea
[05:11] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: ist fixed
[05:12] <kidwithjedipower> I added a contact with a birthdate, then deleted the contact but the birthday still shows up in the read-only Contacts->birthdays & anniversary category
[05:12] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, it's fixed. brillant
[05:12] <Snow_Shelter> anyone know a package that contains soundwrapper?
[05:12] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: yepp, upgrading now
[05:12] <jrattner1> QUESTION: I'm sitting at work bored, I have an ubuntu 6.06 server I can play with : ) anything fun I can do?
[05:13] <HBuzacott> phoenix_, that means I don't have to do all the IRC commands which I have never used
[05:13] <gnomefreak> kidwithjedipower: i havent used evo in a while but if you backspace/delete the birthday info does it still show up?
[05:13] <phoenix_> HBuzacott: exacly
[05:13] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: write me a temp converstion shell script so i dont have to?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> ;) i tried
[05:14] <tr1gg3r> nf4: are u using nvidia driver in xorg.conf? did u load glx extension?
[05:14] <HBuzacott> but hey the command acctually worked
[05:14] <OneSeventeen> NoUse: FYI I found a good interface to MySQL, it's called reading the manual and using the bash... it was ten times easier than phpMyAdmin, since all I wanted was to create a database and a single user. (for amarok)
[05:14] <NoUse> OneSeventeen ah ok
[05:14] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, all write you a shell script but I dont know what you mean by "temp conversation" : )
[05:15] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: from Centigrade to far. and back lol
[05:15] <nf4> i typed  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:15] <gnomefreak> i have a script i started i justt havent goten around to finishing it
[05:15] <kidwithjedipower> yes, it is marked as read-only, I think it's an auto-generated list based on the birthday field in the contacts list, but I can't edit that because I've already deleted him, but the date still shows. I've tried restarting evolution, and I've tried recreating him under contacts, but that just makes it show up twice
[05:15] <nf4> but it said something about the nv driver being there
[05:15] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, that should be quite trivial for a developer like you :)
[05:15] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:16] <tr1gg3r> nf4: u prolly need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace nv with nvidia, then run that command, and restart x
[05:16] <DewBoy3d> quick question... want to install blackbox but cannot find it in synaptic.. pretty sure i need to add a source in apt-sources but not sure where to find it
[05:16] <gnomefreak> its not hard its just i sit here getting readdy to do it and 4 hours later i still havetn opened the script
[05:16] <de1> gnomefreak:
[05:16] <de1> re
[05:16] <gnomefreak> de1: re what?
[05:16] <de1> gnomefreak: it doesn't help. Esc does nothing.
[05:16] <de1> hm... why is my name de1 ???
[05:16] <gnomefreak> de1: ah  can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file lets see whats int here
[05:16] <tr1gg3r> DewBoy3d: have added universe and/or multiverse?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> de1: /nick <other nick>
[05:17] <DewBoy3d> tr1gg3r: have added nothing yet
[05:17] <roland-erau> nf4, it sounds like i'm having a similar problem installing the new nvidia drivers
[05:17] <nf4> i seem to have forgot what it was that i typed to edit that file every thing either comes up deined or unkown
[05:17] <kleedrac> I've got a very silly question.  Is there any way to use an .html file with links to local files/folders/applications as a desktop wallpaper?
[05:17] <de1> gnomefreak: i have tested this and in my chat my name is "dee_" and not dee1... ?
[05:17] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone synced a Treo 700p and ubuntu before?
[05:17] <tr1gg3r> nf4: sudo vim or sudo nano
[05:18] <DewBoy3d> tr1gg3r: how do i do that from within synaptic or is it better to edit the apt-sources directly?
[05:18] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:19] <tr1gg3r> DewBoy3d: i never use synaptic, but i think there is a wiki onit, to do in /etc/apt/sources.list, edit that file and uncomment the lines for universe and multiverse then run apt-get update
[05:19] <DewBoy3d> tr1gg3r: thanks
[05:19] <tr1gg3r> np
[05:19] <de1> gnomefreak: anyway. here is the menu.lst http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1710/
[05:20] <someothernick> DewBoy3d, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: bc ....
[05:22] <DewBoy3d> someothernick: thanks, got it with nano.
[05:22] <someothernick> k
[05:22] <DewBoy3d> tr1gg3r: thanks for the help. got it going now
[05:22] <someothernick> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[05:22] <someothernick> incase you need it
[05:22] <rambo3> del if you uncomment  windows at line 39  it will allways show as first os
[05:23] <ice228> i downloaded this thing ot change the login screen and it hasa gdms folder inside with the rest of the files for the change, where do i place this to make it take effect ?
[05:23] <rambo3> 39-42 lines
[05:23] <ice228> if anyone knows : )
[05:24] <tr1gg3r> ice228: what did u dl a new login screen theme?
[05:24] <Denstark> ice228: go to system --> administration --> login window
[05:24] <nf4> is horizontal sync range the same as maximum horizontal frequency
[05:24] <nf4> for monitors
[05:24] <ice228> ok, im a retard, thanks guys
[05:24] <Denstark> =)
[05:24] <ice228> didnt think it would be that easy : /
[05:24] <tr1gg3r> lol
[05:25] <de1> nf4: yes it is.
[05:25] <ice228> i think of linux and i think of long as cpmand i dont understand
[05:25] <nf4> ok thanks
[05:25] <ice228> then again......its ubuntu
[05:25] <zenwhen> !automatix
[05:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[05:26] <nf4> if my monitors max is 83 what range should i use
[05:26] <_chris__> how do i change location of index page on apache2?
[05:27] <_chris__> anyone here fimular with apache?
[05:27] <Aquarion> chris: The default is /var/www/default
[05:27] <ice228> even thou my account has admin, it stil doesnt let me write to some folders, i checked the support link i was given alst niht and did al the steps and still no good, any ideas anyone ?
[05:27] <jason^> is there a way to automatically build a module every time there's a new kernel installed?
[05:28] <de1> nf: most monitors start at 30.. maybe you shoudl use 35-83.
[05:28] <_chris__> Aquarion what file do i do a gedit on?
[05:28] <DBO> _chris__, look at  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[05:28] <tr1gg3r> _chris__: apache has very good docs try reading them, config files are in /etc/apache2
[05:28] <eigenlambda> happy solstice
[05:28] <Aquarion> The default config is in /etc/apache2/sites-available, you can change the DocumentRoot in the file that is in there if you want to move the directory that apache serves from
[05:28] <_chris__> DBO good morning :)
[05:29] <Frogzoo> my sound stops working after a suspend - which is kind of boring - is there a fix?
[05:29] <_chris__> DBO we edited a file using gedit?
[05:29] <de1> because gnomebreak is away... Grub won't start after a Dapper Update. How can I see what the error is?
[05:29] <DBO> _chris__, yeah, there are two folders in there, sites available and sites enabled.  sites available also contains a copy of 000-default but its named default.  Both files should be made to match
[05:30] <gnomefreak> de1: did you paste your grub menu lsit on pastebin
[05:30] <ice228> my soudns dont work period, how do i fix that lol
[05:30] <tr1gg3r> de1: grub usually outputs an error code u can lookup on the web, it does not write any logs
[05:30] <DBO> you will not have a hard time figuring out the syntax of that file _chris__, its dirt easy
[05:30] <rambo3> del more infro about grub wont start
[05:30] <de1> gnomefreak: yes, I have answered you above.
[05:30] <gnomefreak> sorry i got caught up with something
[05:30] <de1> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1710/
[05:30] <gnomefreak> de1: im looking now ill let you know if i see something
[05:30] <_chris__> DBO i got it! your my hero!
[05:30] <_chris__> :)
[05:30] <Steve^> Where are the settings for the network proxy the auto-update uses?
[05:30] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with rfcomm?
[05:31] <de1> rambo3: I have Grub on floppy disc and if I boot from there I only get "GRUB _" with a blinking cursor. No key can be used!
[05:31] <gnomefreak> de1: are you using dmraid?
[05:31] <Steve^> It's set to a cache from my old connection so now it doesn't work
[05:31] <de1> gnomefreak: nope. no raid. just normal ide-drives.
[05:31] <NF4> ok thanks guys sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  worked
[05:31] <rambo3> del new grub wont fitt on 1 floppy as far as i know , lilo can be fitted en 1
[05:31] <NF4> although it didnt change my sync range
[05:32] <NF4> that is still at 75 and not 83
[05:32] <NF4> but oh well
[05:32] <NF4> the graphics now are working
[05:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:32] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone know when 2.6.17 should be available for dapper?
[05:32] <Frogzoo> !fixres
[05:32] <de1> rambo3: not the whole GRUB is there. Just the index file where grub is.
[05:32] <kidwithjedipower> gnomefreak: any thoughts on that evolution problem?
[05:32] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:32] <tr1gg3r> paradizelost: never
[05:32] <Frogzoo> NF4: you can add the horizsync, vertrefresh specs manually
[05:32] <DBO> _chris__, actually the files in sites-enabled just symlinks to sites-available in debian (sorry) so you can just edit either
[05:32] <Tremitos> yo
[05:33] <NF4> how so
[05:33] <NF4> i thought that is what i just did
[05:33] <de1> rambo3: it's the same as you do a simple "grub-install /dev/fd0" or choose /evc8fd0 druing installation.
[05:33] <gnomefreak> de1: you have 2 dapper partitions?
[05:33] <_chris__> thanks DBO :)
[05:33] <Frogzoo> NF4: read the fixres wiki link listed above
[05:33] <de1> gnomefreak: yes, I have to Dapper. One for testing and one for working with.
[05:34] <de1> NF4: If you want to, you can use xorg-edit for adding your monitor values.
[05:34] <gnomefreak> DBO: got a sec
[05:34] <DBO> gnomefreak, for you anytime hunny
[05:34] <gnomefreak> lol ;)
[05:35] <rambo3> del ity aint that simple as you think
[05:35] <DBO> yeah whats wrong?
[05:35] <Tremitos> ??
[05:35] <gnomefreak> DBO: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1710/#code-l162  take a look at that im not really seeing anything wrong but (boot) is blank not sure if ok
[05:35] <gnomefreak> boot is blank on 1st dapper entry
[05:35] <Steve^> How do you find out what ubuntu you're running?
[05:36] <rambo3> del http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_3.html
[05:36] <DBO> boot isnt blank gnomefreak, boot is a command
[05:36] <gnomefreak> Steve^: lsb_release -a
[05:36] <Steve^> thanks
[05:36] <gnomefreak> DBO: im showing it blank here
[05:36] <DBO> gnomefreak, you mean the part after boot?  yeah thats normal
[05:36] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: the "boot" command tells it to boot that kernel
[05:36] <gnomefreak> im not sure if its looking at "boot" and not seeing anything?
[05:37] <QPAD|warlock-O-> seems like my php aint working? I did a apt-get install apache, then apt-get install php4, look what happends? http://zkillz.mine.nu/sysinfo
[05:37] <DBO> gnomefreak, boot is a command, its like "ok, and GO!"
[05:37] <gnomefreak> ok
[05:37] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: you have 10 partitions on your hard drive?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> paradizelost: not mine
[05:37] <soleni> Hello. My sound card is not being detected by ubuntu. I'm on a toshiba laptop and have lost sound since the dapper update :| Can anyone tell me how can I investigate this further in order to get my sound working again?
[05:38] <el-nino> anyone have experience wth firefox versus opera - which browser is better for dapper
[05:38] <de1> gnomefreak: hm.. thanks for your help. I will now reinstall grub...
[05:38] <gnomefreak> im not seeing anything really wrong with the list
[05:38] <NoUse> !tell QPAD|warlock-O- about php
[05:38] <de1> el-nino: Firefox is in the repos.. so use it! :)
[05:38] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: just making sure, cuz that could be an issue, if it should be /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda10
[05:38] <DewBoy3d> someothernick: thanks for that link about sources.list. very informative.
[05:38] <DBO> gnomefreak, well the partition number changes from breezy to dapper, if they did an upgrade thats probably wrong
[05:38] <gnomefreak> de1: are you seeing this?
[05:38] <someothernick> DewBoy3d, np :)
[05:38] <DBO> paradizelost, no, 2.6.12 was installed on hda9...
[05:38] <el-nino> del: thanks del
[05:38] <paradizelost> k
[05:38] <paradizelost> just wanted to be sure
[05:38] <swim> has anyone ever reformatted an ipod completely on linux?
[05:39] <de1> gnomefreak: I think the list is okay.. maybe the fd is defect... but it works jzsr fine before the update.
[05:39] <QPAD|warlock-O-> but it's been working before with only install php4,apache NoUse ?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> de1: update rom breezy to dapper?
[05:39] <de1> gnomefreak: yes, I see you... and what you've written. :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> s/rom/from
[05:39] <DBO> gnomefreak, can you give me his problem in a nutshell?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> DBO: thats yours
[05:39] <paradizelost> gnomefreak: does grub error trying to probe the floppy? i've had issues on systems w/o a floppy drive w/ that
[05:39] <llpamies> I've an array indexed by a string key. Given a string key, how can I found the next element in the array ?
[05:39] <kidwithjedipower> does anyone know where evolution keeps it's information so I can try starting over with it? or do I need to uninstall/reinstall if I can't figure out how to fix it?
[05:39] <ghostghost> Hi all, i can't believe im having the same problem and i forgot the sollution! anyway I'm trying to build a gem and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16184  I think it was solved last time by installed a package called something like build-dependencies??? then again i could be totally wrong. any ideas?
[05:39] <de1> gnomefreak: nope... just normale dapper-Update from last weekend. new knerl and s one.
[05:39] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- you need the php4 apache lib, have you read that wiki page?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> de1: he upgraded to dapper and now it dont work
[05:39] <de1> I mean "new kernel and so on".
[05:39] <paradizelost> llpamies: that's a programming ?, not really appropriate for this room
[05:40] <gnomefreak> DBO: ^^^
[05:40] <DBO> gnomefreak, right got it
[05:40] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, but it's been wokring before. Yeah tryingn ow
[05:40] <tr1gg3r> kidwithjedipower: ~/.evolution
[05:40] <cytrak> does the server install come with a default password for root ? i didn't ask me to setup one during install
[05:40] <phplearner> hi all
[05:40] <DBO> de1, are you getting any errors other than it just not working?
[05:40] <cytrak> I got no idea what that is
[05:40] <gnomefreak> DBO: he said it just shows grub__
[05:40] <paradizelost> !root
[05:40] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:40] <kidwithjedipower> thanks...
[05:40] <QPAD|warlock-O-> Still doesnt work NoUse :/
[05:40] <de1> gnomefreak: my last dapper Update from Breezy (just for testing works fine) .:)
[05:40] <paradizelost> cytrak: see above message from uboto
[05:40] <gnomefreak> de1: doesnt mean this one went ok
[05:40] <paradizelost> ubotu
[05:40] <de1> DBO: Unfortunately this is my question. where can I see any error. I only see "GUBR _"
[05:41] <de1> h "GRUB _"
[05:41] <DBO> de1, the menu never comes up?
[05:41] <thompa> i cant seem to get nvidia working and have tried enable glx
[05:41] <de1> gnomefreak: may be... it's formatted after this two times. just as I sais... only for testing. :)
[05:41] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- check your apache logs, etc
[05:41] <de1> DBO: no, no menu or anything else.
[05:41] <de1> I have waited 30 minutes...
[05:42] <DBO> de1, well the certainly long enough, odd that it wouldnt error out, but it sounds like its not even finding the menu.lst, have you been doing anything that messes with the partition table lately?
[05:42] <tr1gg3r> de1: sounds like it is looking in the wrong place for the /boot dir and cant find menu
[05:42] <ghostghost> anyone? you all not interested?
[05:42] <de1> DBO: Just the Kernel Update from last Weekend. Nothing else more...
[05:42] <paradizelost> de1: sounds like your grub install is borked, boot to the livecd, and re-initialize the bootsector
[05:43] <de1> tr1gg3r: should there be any error message and the grub prompt?
[05:43] <DBO> de1, usually when grub is borked it errors
[05:43] <QPAD|warlock-O-> Still doesnt work NoUse, something'
[05:43] <QPAD|warlock-O-> something is messed up *
[05:43] <de1> paradizelost: yes, I know. first I want to know WHY if this happens to others agein I can help then.
[05:43] <Lohn> Hello all. There is a console command to configure network like network-admin on ubuntu graphical? Like netcardconfig on redhat...
[05:43] <tr1gg3r> de1: sure under what conditions grub displays errors, but there will be no prompt if grub cannot locate the /boot dir
[05:44] <tr1gg3r> de1: err not sure under .......
[05:44] <de1> tr1gg3r: hm... but i haven't changed the order of the partition or something like this.
[05:44] <dughutch> hello, does anyone know of an opensource replacement for Novell's ZENworks?  I'm trying to deploy and manage multiple Ubuntu desktops and need a way to mange them...
[05:44] <ghostghost> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16184 ........
[05:45] <de1> So nobody has ever seen this behaviour before after a kernel update?
[05:45] <DBO> de1, we are nto exactly sure what happened, and we probably wont be without a lot of log diving, but we have a good idea how to fix it
[05:45] <_chris__> DBO how do i create a folder in /home ? i put the location /home/www
[05:45] <de1> So I hope I'm the only "lucky" one.
[05:45] <soleni> Is it possible for alsa not to detect my soundcard even if the system does? How do I check if it's detected by ubuntu?
[05:45] <DBO> _chris__, sudo mkdir /home/www
[05:45] <el-nino> how can i clean up apt-get update command.from time i installed dapper i always receive errors .is this part of the dapper pacakge
[05:45] <C_REATiVE_> dv
[05:45] <gnomefreak> _chris__: mkdir ~/filename
[05:45] <de1> DBO: :)  Yes, thanks... I will reinstall grub via live-cd.
[05:45] <_chris__> thanks DBO :)
[05:45] <e398> tu public flash sites on apache2 i have to change something
[05:46] <Thlayli> hmpf...i wanna generate my java classpath via a bash script, and i always get: "...is not a valid identifer" as error
[05:46] <Thlayli> when i use the export command
[05:46] <de1> so thanks for your help and another mystery of my PC that cannot be solved. ;)
[05:46] <de1> bye....
[05:46] <thompa> im back to the same nvidia problem, first gdm would not start and it gave me different loging screen, i changed to "nvidia" and nvidia-settings shows its working, but no nvidia logo
[05:46] <DBO> de1, good luck
[05:46] <DBO> come back if you have errors de1
[05:46] <tr1gg3r> de1: u sure ur hd is still good? a kernel update will change ur menu.lst file for grub, but unless u editted that before the kernel update there should no change except a new kernel in menu
[05:46] <el-nino> how can i clean up apt-get update command.from time i installed dapper i always receive errors .is this part of the dapper package
[05:46] <de1> DBO: sure... :)
[05:46] <robert_> hm, somebody got a moment to help me configure my courier-imap server?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> el-nino: gpg errors?
[05:47] <thompa> anybody know what this could be?
[05:47] <ubuntu> servus
[05:47] <DBO> el-nino, put your errors in pastebin and post the link here
[05:47] <de1> tr1gg3r: the new kernel was inserted fine... the menu.lst looks good. and my HD ist hopefully ok.
[05:47] <el-nino> gnomefreak : yes
[05:47] <swim> has anyone ever reformatted an ipod completely on linux?
[05:47] <de1> it was this morning after the stadnard check.
[05:47] <nich0s> YAy! burning dapper to CD... :)
[05:47] <DBO> thompa, does lsmod | grep nvidia give you anything?
[05:47] <thompa> !nvidia
[05:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:47] <gnomefreak> el-nino: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and the errors on pastebin
[05:47] <de1> so bye guys.
[05:47] <nich0s> bye, de1
[05:47] <cytrak> Ng: hey apt-get build-essential will that bring down gcc 3.x or 4.x ?
[05:47] <dr_willis> !ipod
[05:48] <gnomefreak> 4.0
[05:48] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:48] <gnomefreak> cytrak: ^^6
[05:48] <Ng> cytrak: 4
[05:48] <thompa> DBO: yes there is nvidia there
[05:48] <DBO> thompa, so whats your issue again?  you miss the splashscreen is all?
[05:48] <robert_> isn't there some web interface where I can configure my courier-imap server?
[05:48] <_chris__> DBO how do i copy files into my /home/www?
[05:48] <paradizelost> robert_: you could probably use webmin
[05:48] <killaz> gusy I want to install vmware but I get this A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[05:49] <gnomefreak> _chris__: cp
[05:49] <killaz> guys*
[05:49] <paradizelost> robert_: do not use the .deb though
[05:49] <_chris__> DBO how about getting rid of the privlages?
[05:49] <dr_willis> robert_,  perpaaps webmin - but i dont think thats in the repos any more
[05:49] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, where are the apache olgs btw?
[05:49] <_chris__> :)
[05:49] <tr1gg3r> robert_: webmin or isconfig maybe, otherwise i dont think so
[05:49] <killaz> but I have uninstall vmware, how can I see if I removed everything?
[05:49] <robert_> ah
[05:49] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- /var/log/apache I believe
[05:49] <paradizelost> robert_: if you download the .tar.gz from http://www.webmin.com and it works fine
[05:49] <QPAD|warlock-O-> ok
[05:49] <thompa> DBO: no i dont care about splash screen, ive had to reinstall, earlier my text would become jumbled in OO and frame rate slowed down at one point in opengl
[05:49] <robert_> isconfig, I think
[05:49] <DBO> _chris__, sudo chown chris:chris /home/www  (replace chris with your username)
[05:49] <gnomefreak> webmin is no longer supported by ubuntu (since dapper) and they have no intention of bringing it back afaik)
[05:49] <XTORTION> Hello, whats the best way to search for a file?
[05:49] <SVisor> Im having hangs (can ping system thou) which are DRI related (ATI9700 R300 card). The questions are: Noticed that X.org has released 7.1, any timetable when Ubuntu will have it? Secondly anyone found the change list for x.org 7.1, and does it mention fixes for radeon?
[05:49] <thompa> DBO: i lost about a 3rd of my text due to this, im wondering how the no logo is related
[05:50] <_chris__> thanks DBO ur my hero!
[05:50] <Terminus> XTORTION, locate
[05:50] <XTORTION> thanks you terminus
[05:50] <juanca7777_> hello everyone
[05:50] <DBO> thompa, no idea really...  nvidia drivers are kinda a black box to us
[05:50] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, well. What should i be looking or ?
[05:50] <Terminus> XTORTION, np. :)
[05:50] <QPAD|warlock-O-> for *
[05:50] <tr1gg3r> thompa: iirc no logo = no nvidia driver unless in xorg.conf u specify no logo
[05:50] <thompa> DBO: the other indicator after glx enable, is that gdm would not initially restart, went to other log in screen
[05:50] <thompa> i rebooted and now it seems ok
[05:50] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse,
[05:50] <QPAD|warlock-O-> [Wed Jun 21 17:42:59 2006]  [notice]  Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) configured -- resuming normal operations
[05:50] <QPAD|warlock-O-> [Wed Jun 21 17:42:59 2006]  [notice]  Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem)
[05:51] <QPAD|warlock-O-> error.log
[05:51] <swim> has anyone ever reformatted an ipod completely on linux?
[05:51] <el-nino> gnomefreak : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16185
[05:51] <robert_> where do I find/get isconfig?
[05:51] <tr1gg3r> robert_: google
[05:51] <juanca7777_> I have a thinkpad t20 and I want to use an extern monitor whose resolution is bigger than the default notebook's monitor, can some one guide me on how to achieve this?
[05:51] <walter> hello
[05:51] <dr_willis> !info isconfig
[05:51] <thompa> DBO: im afraid to start typing anything if it happens again
[05:51] <ubotu> Package isconfig does not exist in dapper
[05:51] <gnomefreak> QPAD|warlock-O-: use pastebin please
[05:51] <tr1gg3r> dr_willis: ispconfig
[05:52] <DBO> thompa, give me your Xorg log in pastebin, I will see if I can find anything
[05:52] <gnomefreak> el-nino: ok found the problem
[05:52] <thompa> DBO: ive tried about 5 other distros, none work, ubuntu does sort of
[05:52] <killaz> I mean there must be a command like dpkg -?? | grep vmware*
[05:52] <thompa> thanks
[05:52] <DBO> thompa, what do you mean none work?
[05:52] <QPAD|warlock-O-> ok gnomefreak
[05:52] <QPAD|warlock-O-> !pastebin
[05:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:52] <gnomefreak> !tell el-nino about repos
[05:52] <el-nino> gnomefreak : good please tell me as well :)
[05:52] <thompa> DBO: the nvidia driver would not install
[05:52] <paradizelost> killaz: vmware server is not an apt package, therefore it won't work
[05:52] <thompa> !pastebin
[05:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:53] <gnomefreak> el-nino: ubuntu is looking for backports but there is no universe nor multiverse repos in your list
[05:53] <paradizelost> killaz: and it's not a .deb to my knowlege
[05:53] <dr_willis> i was just about to say that paradizelost
[05:53] <DBO> thompa, thats very concerning indeed
[05:53] <gypsymauro> hello
[05:53] <gnomefreak> el-nino: ubotu should have given you a link to look at in pm
[05:53] <SVisor> Related question about ATI prop. drivers (fglrx). Have someone managed to get em to work with two screens?
[05:53] <paradizelost> killaz: what's your problem with vmware?
[05:53] <gypsymauro> there is a way to see flash pages wirhout using proprietary sw on dapper?
[05:53] <paradizelost> what issue are you having?
[05:53] <killaz> paradizelost, I want to install vmware workstation. I installed previously vmwareplayer, but now I want to install vmware workstation
[05:53] <gnomefreak> gypsymauro: eh not really
[05:54] <MarcN> SVisor: I have, but the whole dual monitor is a a little unclear to me.
[05:54] <soleni> Is it possible for alsa not to detect my soundcard even if the system does? How do I check if it's detected by ubuntu?
[05:54] <killaz> paradizelost, during the installation I get the error I pasted..
[05:54] <paradizelost> killaz: any reason you want workstation instead of server?
[05:54] <paradizelost> killaz: can you paste the link again?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> gypsymauro: sure you could prolly use gplflash but eh not sure
[05:54] <killaz> paradizelost, uhm just a choice. server sounds to heavy for my pc..
[05:54] <XVampireX> I need hebrew keyboard support right now, I have no idea how to do it, I asked for it long time ago, but I couldn't figure it out, can anyone help me?>
[05:54] <cytrak> is there a webpage I can find out all the packages that are available for installation ?
[05:54] <paradizelost> killaz: it's actually nicer, if you don't need multiple snapshots
[05:54] <_chris__> DBO how do i start the apache :P
[05:54] <gnomefreak> cytrak: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:54] <paradizelost> killaz: and it's free
[05:55] <thompa> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16186
[05:55] <DBO> _chris__, sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[05:55] <paradizelost> _chris__: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[05:55] <_chris__> thanks :)
[05:55] <thompa> thanks, im about to smash this box to bits
[05:55] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, gnomefreak, this is error.log / access.log from the apache log, I cant get php to work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16187
[05:55] <killaz> paradizelost, during the previous installation my vmplayer wont work...
[05:55] <SVisor> MarcN: Two screens in cinerama config (one is extended onto the other one). Managed to get two screens [Cloned] , but whatever I tried I could not get the right layout.
[05:55] <DBO> _chris__, yeah, paradizelost is right, its apache2
[05:55] <DBO> my mistake
[05:55] <cytrak> thanks
[05:55] <XVampireX> Can anyone please help me?
[05:55] <killaz> paradizelost, so I got some help.. the vmware-modules were not correct
[05:55] <MarcN> SVisor: hold on a few. I'll post my xorg.conf
[05:55] <thomaswebb> hello, i am also looking for some help
[05:55] <gnomefreak> if i can
[05:56] <DBO> thompa, your Xorg LOG, not Xorg.conf.  its in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:56] <killaz> paradizelost, so I manually (apt) I installed other vmware-modules
[05:56] <neutrinomass> !ask
[05:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:56] <paradizelost> killaz: do you have build-essential, linux-headers-`uname -r`, and xinetd
[05:56] <paradizelost> installed?
[05:56] <thompa> DBO: ok sorry
[05:56] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, any ideas?
[05:56] <DBO> thompa, common mistake
[05:56] <thompa> DBO: my resolution should be 1440x900, but im going to change that later
[05:56] <swim> has anyone ever reformatted an ipod completely on linux?
[05:57] <thomaswebb> when i boot up i get a message on the screen saying 'Difference between boot sector and its backup' with regards to an internal 80gb fat32 hard drive which is mounted
[05:57] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- nope
[05:57] <walter> can someone can help me with logical and phisical USB HID ranges under linux pleae?
[05:57] <paradizelost> killaz: did you do a vmware-uninstall.pl?
[05:57] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, crap :/
[05:57] <_chris__> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[05:57] <_chris__>  :(
[05:57] <paradizelost> _chris__: just a warning, don't worry about it atm
[05:57] <_chris__> i want to use my public IP
[05:57] <paradizelost> _chris__: just means you need to set the server name in the config file
[05:57] <killaz> I just want to see with dpkg what for vmware-modules I still have installed. It has something to do with linux-headers.... the version vmwareplayer downloaded dont match with my linux-headers.. so I had to apt-get them manually
[05:58] <vicox> my fn-keys on my notebook control the headphone and not the speakers, anyone have an idea how to change this?
[05:58] <DBO> _chris__, put your 000-default in pastebin please
[05:58] <_chris__> paradizelost how ... i'm lost
[05:58] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, it all worked until i installed this you told me:
[05:58] <_chris__> ok DBO :)
[05:58] <kostja> hello
[05:58] <thompa> DBO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16191 thanks
[05:58] <QPAD|warlock-O-> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[05:58] <paradizelost> _chris__: IIRC, it's in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:58] <killaz> paradizelost, vmware-uninstall.pl is not on my system any more...
[05:58] <thompa> DBO: im totally clueless, ive installed nvidia dozens of times
[05:58] <paradizelost> killaz: do an lsmod|grep vm
[05:58] <thompa> DBO: it works fine on windows side
[05:58] <bersace|code> Is it possible to buy Ubuntu clothes at UDS ?
[05:59] <kostja> can someone tell me how I install/configure wpa wlan on my ibook?
[05:59] <QPAD|warlock-O-> woot, looks like its working :o
[05:59] <QPAD|warlock-O-> yay!
[05:59] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- what did you do?
[05:59] <killaz> paradizelost, hmm empty
[05:59] <_chris__> copy  the apache2.conf in paste bin?
[05:59] <Pelo> hey guys, I making a guide to run utorrent in ubuntu and I need a little help because my version is installed in french and I need the correct english wording, does someone care to help me out ?
[05:59] <someothernick> anyone know the command to run fps test?
[05:59] <QPAD|warlock-O-> I dont know, I removed php4,php5, and apache/2 and rebooted and it works? :E
[05:59] <thomaswebb> anyone know how to enable write access on an ntfs drive?
[05:59] <QPAD|warlock-O-> weird.
[05:59] <paradizelost> killaz: then the modules aren't loaded.
[05:59] <thompa> DBO: monitor is sometimes an issue casue its 1440x900
[05:59] <DBO> thompa, are you using the linux-restricted-modules
[05:59] <NoUse> QPAD|warlock-O- ok
[05:59] <paradizelost> killaz: and when you do a vmware workation install, it will overwrite any module files that are out ther.e
[05:59] <QPAD|warlock-O-> NoUse, sounds sick. I know :/
[05:59] <DBO> _chris__, no, you want the file I listed for you
[06:00] <killaz> well I cant uninstall and an installation tells me that there is a installation
[06:00] <DBO> _chris__, ubuntu used an Include scheme for its hosts
[06:00] <thompa> DBO: its a fresh install i just install glx is all
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell someothernick about glxgears
[06:00] <paradizelost> killaz: do an apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd
[06:00] <someothernick> ty
[06:00] <_chris__> ok so what do i do DB :)
[06:00] <paradizelost> killaz: then try to install vmware workstation
[06:00] <_chris__> DBO*
[06:00] <killaz> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[06:00] <killaz> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[06:00] <MarcN> SVisor: pastebin.com is very slow to take my xorg.conf...
[06:01] <SVisor> fglrx (ATI) does not support CRT2Position, what to use instead? (Need to switch the screens)
[06:01] <walter> noone having ideas about existing kernel patces for getting logical and phisical HID ranges working in the correct way?
[06:01] <DBO> thomaswebb, everything in your xorg log looks normal...
[06:01] <neotard> MarcN:  http://cl1p.net/ isn't good too :)
[06:01] <killaz> paradizelost, why should I download the linux-headers again?
[06:01] <NoUse> MarcN pastebin.com is a mess, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:01] <DBO> _chris__, put your 000-default file that you edited earlier in pastebin
[06:01] <krazykit> SVisor: swap the cables or move the monitors physically ;-)
[06:01] <MarcN> SVisor: http://pastebin.com/723583
[06:01] <paradizelost> killaz: make sure you have the headers for your CURRENT RUNNING kernel
[06:01] <thomaswebb> hmm ok, thanks
[06:01] <_chris__> ok sounds good holdon
[06:01] <paradizelost> killaz: if you don't have the proper headers, it will not work
[06:01] <thompa> DBO: the manual install did not work either,
[06:02] <paradizelost> killaz: do an rm -Rf /etc/vmware
[06:02] <thomaswebb> DBO, you got any idea how i can get write access to my NTFS partition?
[06:02] <NoUse> !ntfs
[06:02] <DBO> thomaswebb, you cant
[06:02] <killaz> but what have that to do with vmware saying that here is a previous installation
[06:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:02] <thompa> DBO: what could be going on if logo does not show up?
[06:02] <DBO> thompa, everything in your xorg looks normal
[06:02] <MarcN> SVisor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16192
[06:02] <DBO> i donno really
[06:02] <paradizelost> killaz: it's just a precaution, if you already have the right ones installed, it won't re-download them
[06:02] <xuser> bah, I will stay with windows for desktop, linux/bsd servers.
[06:03] <SVisor> krazykit: No good solution... well I try something else first
[06:03] <MarcN> SVisor: be sure to save away a copy of your existing xorg.conf before messing around.
[06:03] <thomaswebb> oh ok, for some reason i presumed you write to a ntfs drive
[06:03] <cytrak> is there a site with some apt examples ? like list packages currently installed
[06:03] <leethal> The dapper CD boots up fine, but when selecting "manunally edit partition table", the part of the window that should list the partitions turn black. Any tips? Can't find anything on google
[06:03] <thompa> DBO: im thinking the nvidia driver for my 660 is not good
[06:03] <killaz> paradizelost, rm -Rf /etc/vmware did the trick...
[06:03] <paradizelost> killaz: although, as i said, i do really recommend using vmware server unless you already paid for vmware-workstation, the install for server is very easy, and the vm's can run without the vmware program open
[06:03] <nigue> anyone know how to install xerox phaser 3122 printer?
[06:03] <_chris__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16193
[06:03] <_chris__> :)
[06:04] <killaz> paradizelost, oh ok...
[06:04] <SVisor> MarcN: Will look into it. Went just back to radeon and have dual screen now. The only trouble is it hangs sometimes.
[06:04] <DBO> paradizelost, isnt it refering to /etc/hosts not having a proper entry for it?
[06:04] <DBO> erm, wow Im delayed
[06:04] <MarcN> SVisor: I'm currently using the 'ati' driver with 2 heads and no problems on dapper.
[06:04] <paradizelost> DBO: what's the issue regarding /etc/hosts?
[06:05] <DBO> _chris__, your /etc/hosts too
[06:05] <DBO> paradizelost, scratch that, I was refering back to _chris__'s server name issue
[06:05] <_chris__> what do i do ? im lost! DBO what about /etc/hosts?
[06:05] <walter> BenC, are U there?
[06:05] <DBO> _chris__, put it in pastebin
[06:05] <paradizelost> DBO: ahh, k. yah, that's just an apache issue, the server name doesn't have to be the same as in /etc/hosts
[06:05] <thomaswebb> sorry to be a pain with yet another question, but i use both windows and ubuntu and just wondered if there is a way to share firefox and thunderbird profiles across platforms (e.eg bookmarks and plugins for firefox and mail accounts for thunderbird)?
[06:06] <DBO> paradizelost, yeah, ok
[06:06] <_chris__> ok hold on
[06:06] <paradizelost> thomaswebb: i've seen it done using ext2/3 and the e2fs driver
[06:06] <paradizelost> in windows
[06:06] <SVisor> MarcN: Did you check your xorg.log as: MergedFB, CRT2Position and Monitorlayout are unsupported with the ATI driver.
[06:06] <spikeb> thomaswebb: questioning is what we're here for, so don't worry about being a pain
[06:06] <paradizelost> thomaswebb: i've never done it myself, so don't ask how to do it
[06:06] <NoUse> thomaswebb you could use del.icio.us for bookmarks, can't really share plugins since they need to be compiled for the OS they are running in
[06:06] <paradizelost> ;)
[06:07] <_chris__> DBO its small order hosts,bind
[06:07] <FeeR^> thomaswebb, or just use that google bookmark sync thing
[06:07] <_chris__> multi on
[06:07] <thomaswebb> ok, that was my next question paradize ;)
[06:07] <thomaswebb> i will have a google and see what i can find
[06:07] <DBO> _chris__, add this line somewhere in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:07] <gnomefreak> tzUoa: something we can help you with? ben is more than likely busy
[06:07] <Tremitos> hey
[06:07] <dr_willis> thomaswebb,  google has a browser sync feature/extension now that can save/restore bookmarks and hitstory and other bits for firefox. so you always have your bookmarks. :P
[06:07] <_chris__> bottom? top ? middle?
[06:07] <DBO> _chris__, "ServerName <your ip here>"
[06:07] <_chris__> anywhere :))
[06:07] <dee> gnomefreak DBO paradizelost: it's me, d1r (or whatever my temp nick was). just want to say that Grub works fine now.
[06:08] <_chris__> Whats my server name?
[06:08] <syllogism> I've got an app that was compiled with Unicode support. . and pango is complaining about not being able to load the right font. . . which package should I install to fix the problem?
[06:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a way  to find out who made a certain driver or who maintains it?
[06:08] <Tremitos> tell me
[06:08] <Kenotic> When I try to play video with the default move player the video turns out blue
[06:08] <DBO> dee, splendid
[06:08] <gnomefreak> dee: what fixed it?
[06:08] <DBO> _chris__, it gets rid of the error, if you own a domain name like www.chrisloveslinux.com you would put that there instead
[06:08] <tzUoa> gnomefreak, i'm having trouble with HID logical and phisical ranges
[06:08] <Bassetts> hi, could someone help me with  a bash script just quickly?
[06:08] <tzUoa> using a joystick device i'm developing
[06:08] <_chris__> DBO i want my public IP
[06:08] <Kenotic> I think the default player is totem
[06:09] <DBO> _chris__, so put your public IP there
[06:09] <_chris__> ok great hold on
[06:09] <tzUoa> it works correctly under windows (i need it to work in win, linux and mac)
[06:09] <K1_> hi, i'd like to build the linux-image-2.6.17 from edgy for dapper - dpkg-buildpackage would build all flavours I understand - where can I choose which flavour I want (i.e., linux-image-2.6.17-686)
[06:09] <gnomefreak> Bassetts: is it one your writing?
[06:09] <tzUoa> i found an old post made by BenC
[06:09] <Bassetts> gnomefreak: yes i just need help with a dew lines
[06:09] <dee> gnomefreak: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/fd0. :)
[06:09] <gnomefreak> tzUoa: sorry dont play with joysticks
[06:09] <Bassetts> *few
[06:09] <Miles_Prower> Could someone help me in a PM with the following issue: X.Org's config shows that the display on my laptop can do 640x480, 800x600, and manuf. specs back that up. HOWEVER, Gnome doesn't give me 800x600 as an option on the screen resolution changer.
[06:10] <arno> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my vmplayer. When i turn it on I get an error : could'nt open /dev/vmmon no such file or directory. make sure that the kernel module 'vmmon' is loaded. What should I do? thanks very much for your help
[06:10] <gnomefreak> Bassetts: try abs its the best refference ive found for shell scripts
[06:10] <DBO> _chris__, you can put that entry at the very start of that file if you want
[06:10] <Bassetts> abs?
[06:10] <gnomefreak> !abs > Bassetts
[06:10] <Kenotic> When I try to play video with the totem player the video turns out blue
[06:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about abs
[06:10] <tzUoa> gnomefreak: .... why? :-(
[06:10] <dr_willis> !fixres
[06:10] <gnomefreak> Bassetts: bot sent you a pm
[06:10] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:10] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> this may seem offtopic but does someone knows if apt or libapt-pkg have a project homepage? i seem unable to find it
[06:10] <Bassetts> gnomefreak: it hasnt :S
[06:10] <gnomefreak> tzUoa: no need to play with them here
[06:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Bassetts about abs
[06:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about abs
[06:10] <gnomefreak> damn you bot
[06:10] <Bassetts> heh
[06:11] <rendo> How would I go about setting up a printer running off the LiveCD?
[06:11] <FeeR^> Anyone able to successfully get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[06:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: did you do dpkg-reconfigure?/
[06:11] <Miles_Prower> Yes.
[06:11] <DBO> AlbertEin_ZaYa, afaik there is not one, its just part of the debian project
[06:11] <gnomefreak> Bassetts: hold on let me find it (its in synaptic but there is alsoa  site that might be more update
[06:11] <Bassetts> ok gnomefreak
[06:11] <DBO> AlbertEin_ZaYa, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html is about as close as it comes
[06:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: thats where you select what res your monitor can display
[06:11] <gnomefreak> Bassetts: ill grab it from fav
[06:11] <dooglus> Bassetts: what do you need help with specifically?
[06:11] <tzUoa> gnomefreak: ok, but do you know something about a patch to make the usb and hid driver to manage them in the right way?
[06:11] <Bassetts> i just have trouble writing scripts that login to like ftp or ssh
[06:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: what video card u have?
[06:12] <Miles_Prower> Video chipset is a neomagic magicgraph 128. and when i do reconfigure, it just.. does it. no choices given.
[06:12] <Bassetts> dooglus: im trying to get a .sh to login to ssh, cd to a dir, run a script and leave
[06:12] <gnomefreak> Bassetts: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[06:12] <Bassetts> dooglus: i always get stuck with trying to get it to enter the password though
[06:12] <dooglus> Bassetts: ftp is an interactive program, it's not designed to be used from a script, so that's why it's hard.
[06:12] <primlantah> does anyone know if a running application will continue to run when screenlock is turned on
[06:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: what command did you use?
[06:12] <dooglus> Bassetts: wasn't it you who did this a few days ago?
[06:12] <Bassetts> dooglus: i got my ftp script working =)
[06:13] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> DBO, what about if i need development support? any webpage or irc channel to walk around?
[06:13] <Bassetts> dooglus: no, i made a script to run a command then ftp a file
[06:13] <paradizelost> Bassetts: it can be done using perl, but otherwise, i dunno
[06:13] <KenSentMe> Has anyone ever tried running the soccer game Bolzplatz/Slam Soccer 2006 on Ubuntu?
[06:13] <Miles_Prower> dpkg-reconfigure .. i forget, it was yesterday. i saw in the FAQ the two lines.,
[06:13] <Bassetts> paradizelost: i know nothing about perl
[06:13] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: use tab to autocomplete nicknames u want to speak to
[06:13] <dooglus> Bassetts: the script you ended up with sent your password though didn't it
[06:13] <Miles_Prower> one was X, the other Gnome
[06:13] <arno> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my vmplayer. When i turn it on I get an error : could'nt open /dev/vmmon no such file or directory. make sure that the kernel module 'vmmon' is loaded. What should I do? thanks very much for your help
[06:13] <Bassetts> dooglus: yes
[06:13] <DBO> AlbertEin_ZaYa, uhhh, #debian on the debian servers might be the place to go, but just be warned, its suicide
[06:13] <Kenotic> anyone have any idea why all movies played with totem have a blue tint?
[06:13] <Miles_Prower> Does tab work in IRSSI?
[06:13] <paradizelost> arno: re-run vmware-config.pl
[06:14] <Bassetts> dooglus: i wanted it to
[06:14] <_chris__> DBO it worked! your a genious! :)
[06:14] <dooglus> Bassetts: for ssh, you can upload your public key to the remote server - then you don't need to use a password
[06:14] <paradizelost> arno: if the kernel got updated, you may need to re-install the latest kernel-headers
[06:14] <Bassetts> dooglus: how do i do that??
[06:14] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> DBO, hahahaha, thank you i'll check it out, and will try with the synaptic folks
[06:14] <arno> paradizelost: how can i do that?
[06:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: do , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:14] <paradizelost> arno: you open a terminal and type in vmware-config.pl
[06:14] <paradizelost> just like when you installed the software
[06:14] <dooglus> Bassetts: first run ssh-keygen to make a pair of keys
[06:15] <primlantah> does anyone know if a running application will continue to run when screenlock is turned on?
[06:15] <W3bbo> Avast ye scurvey dogs! How do I install this 'ere ubuntu? It boots straight to the Live desktop
[06:15] <arno> paradizelost: it doesn't work command not found
[06:15] <paradizelost> arno: try sudo vmware-config.pl
[06:15] <dooglus> Bassetts: use the defaults if you like.  it'll make 2 files in .ssh/ called id_rsa and id_rsa.rub
[06:15] <paradizelost> W3bbo: run the "install" icon on the desktop
[06:16] <kaan> what is different/extra in the dvd version of ubuntu 6.06?
[06:16] <dooglus> Bassetts: that's .pub, not .rub
[06:16] <paradizelost> brb
[06:16] <W3bbo> paradizelost: ah thanks, I missed that
[06:16] <KuLover> Anyone here use Karambe? or SuperKaramba?
[06:16] <Bassetts> ok dooglus, i shall read into it :)
[06:16] <arno> paradizelost: it doesn't work but I have vmplayer....
[06:16] <gnomefreak> KuLover: did you try #kubuntu?
[06:17] <dooglus> Bassetts: all you need to do is copy the .pub file into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server and chmod 755 ~/.ssh on the remote server and chmod 644 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server
[06:17] <paradizelost> back
[06:17] <Bassetts> dooglus: what flag should i use with the keygen?
[06:17] <paradizelost> arno: follow the instructions from when you installed vmware-player
[06:18] <dooglus> Bassetts: then when you try to log in, it will just let you in without a password (so long as you have the ~/ssh/id_rsa file - don't give a copy of that file to anyone, it's like your new password.
[06:18] <tzUoa> gnomefreak: nothing?
[06:18] <dooglus> Bassetts: no key necessary
[06:18] <arno> paradizelost: I did it x times!
[06:18] <paradizelost> arno: usually, it's a sign that your kernel got updated and you just need to re-compile the module
[06:18] <dooglus> Bassetts: no flag I mean
[06:18] <rendo> I need some help with a printer from the livecd.  It's detected the printer but it won't print, anyone have any advice?
[06:18] <robert_> hm, is there a way to get my webcam working on Ubuntu?
[06:18] <DBO> dooglus, passwordless rsa/dsa keys is a bad idea you know...
[06:18] <paradizelost> arno: possibly try doing an /etc/init.d/vmware restart
[06:18] <Bassetts> dooglus: You must specify a key type (-t).
[06:18] <arno> paradizelost: how do I do that
[06:18] <gnomefreak> tzUoa: nope
[06:18] <cytrak> hmm if I compiled something on ubuntu 5.10 with kernel 2.6.12-9 will it be able to run on ubuntu iwth kernel 2.9.16 ?
[06:18] <dooglus> DBO: why's that?
[06:18] <cytrak> hmm if I compiled something on ubuntu 5.10 with kernel 2.6.12-9 will it be able to run on ubuntu iwth kernel 2.6.16 ?
[06:18] <_chris__> http://69.37.33.242/
[06:18] <paradizelost> arno: that is the command for how you do that
[06:19] <ron_o> rendo. Have you tried the gnome-cups-manager?
[06:19] <_chris__> what happens? :)
[06:19] <paradizelost> arno: you may need sudo at the beginning
[06:19] <NoUse> cytrak if its not a kernel module it probably will
[06:19] <arno> paradizelost: no such file or directory
[06:19] <rendo> No ron_o :/
[06:19] <paradizelost> arno: look in /etc/init.d
[06:19] <tzUoa> gnomefreak: ok, thankyou. do you think i can find BenC here in the next days?
[06:19] <paradizelost> arno: find anything that says vmware in it
[06:19] <DBO> dooglus, because its easier to have a permission error screw everything up for you
[06:19] <cytrak> NoUse:  it would be the bridge utils
[06:19] <ron_o> then in the terminal run that exact command and see what you get.
[06:19] <Bassetts> dooglus: i user -t rsa, is that right?
[06:19] <robert_> (I have an EZonics EZcam USB)
[06:19] <arno> paradizelost: how do i look in?
[06:19] <ron_o> $gnome-cups-manager and it should help.
[06:20] <gnomefreak> tzUoa: hes here atm but this is his busy season ;)
[06:20] <paradizelost> arno: cd /etc/init.d
[06:20] <paradizelost> arno: ls
[06:20] <_chris__> i have a permission error too :/
[06:20] <DBO> dooglus, PKE should be used as a means to prevent mitm attacks, not to get rid of passwords
[06:20] <_chris__> http://69.37.33.242/ see?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> tzUoa: you might be better off in #programming or #whatever code it is
[06:20] <kaan> are there extra packages in ubuntu dvd?
[06:20] <paradizelost> _chris__: make sure you chown www-data /var/www/index.html
[06:21] <dooglus> Bassetts: -t rsa or -t dsa
[06:21] <ron_o> kaan. I don't believe so but haven't run. I believe it's just both the liveCD and the installer.
[06:21] <arno> paradizelost: vmnet is not loaded failed
[06:21] <DBO> _chris__, yeas, in your sites-enabled you are currently only allowing 127.0.0.1
[06:21] <_chris__> thanks paradizelost :)
[06:21] <arno> paradizelost: what should i do?
[06:21] <rendo> It's says printing but it isn't. ron_o
[06:21] <DBO> _chris__, you need to allow all
[06:21] <paradizelost> arno: that says your kernel got updated, and you need to rebuild the modules.
[06:21] <_chris__> so allow all what do i do?
[06:21] <ron_o> rendo, try deleting your printer and add new printer, OK?
[06:21] <_chris__> chown www-data /var/www/index.html ?
[06:21] <paradizelost> type vmware and press tab 2x fast
[06:22] <ron_o> see if it can find it again.
[06:22] <DBO> _chris__, now, its not a chown thing
[06:22] <paradizelost> _chris__: yes
[06:22] <_chris__> haha fghting going on
[06:22] <syllogism> is there anyone in here familiar with pango?
[06:22] <_chris__> whos right ;)
[06:22] <dooglus> DBO: he wants to automate the process of running a command via ssh.
[06:22] <Miles_Prower> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Next step?
[06:22] <DBO> paradizelost, is traditionally correct
[06:22] <rendo> It's not detectng it now.
[06:22] <dooglus> DBO: if he doesn't get rid of the requirement for a password, he's going to have to put the plain-text password into a script somewhere
[06:22] <ron_o> oh boy rendo..
[06:23] <ron_o> let me think.
[06:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: did you select the right driver and resolutions?
[06:23] <DBO> dooglus, or not try to automate things over ssh...
[06:23] <ron_o> it probably didn't really detect it before. I've no idea why it's not printing to it.
[06:23] <ron_o> did it give any errors?
[06:23] <_chris__> thanks paradizelost!
[06:23] <_chris__> its working :)
[06:23] <DBO> twice!
[06:23] <DBO> im out
[06:23] <arno> paradizelost: How do I rebuilt the modul?
[06:24] <_chris__> DBO your just not with it ;)
[06:24] <_chris__> ha
[06:24] <rendo> And the cup manager omes up with a boatload of warnings
[06:24] <Miles_Prower> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Yes.
[06:24] <DBO> Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128  <--- was the wrong server DOH
[06:24] <_chris__> DBO switch to decaffee
[06:24] <paradizelost> arno: vmware-config.pl
[06:24] <paradizelost> arno: you need to find where it is
[06:24] <DBO> see, I have an excuse _chris__, i just looked at the wrong block of code
[06:24] <ron_o> in a few words what's the cups manager warning you about?
[06:24] <paradizelost> arno: it re-does the modules
[06:24] <rendo> n/m, had to access the lan printer crap, detected it again
[06:24] <_chris__> DBO i forgive you :)
[06:24] <Bassetts> dooglus: it is not working
[06:24] <ron_o> did you run sudo with the cups manager?
[06:25] <ron_o> you're on a LAN?
[06:25] <NoUse> cytrak what are bridge utils?
[06:25] <Miles_Prower> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: When i click 'System > Screen Resolution' the little applet only gives 640x480 as an option.
[06:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: log out , alt+ctrl+backspace to restart xserver, log back in , go to video options see if u can select that resolution
[06:25] <dooglus> Bassetts: you make the key files?
[06:25] <Bassetts> yes
[06:25] <rendo> But it won't print still. :/
[06:25] <Bassetts> uploaded
[06:25] <dooglus> then what?
[06:25] <leira> i want to change my Debian box to kubuntu, but i have LVMs on my disc, it seems the kubuntu Desktop CD cannot handle LVM?
[06:25] <protocol2> is there a keyboard shortcut for increasing my voume for my audio....or is that something I would have to configure myself?
[06:25] <Bassetts> and chmoded
[06:25] <_chris__> now how about seeing if my graphics card is working property ? :P anyone for it?
[06:25] <protocol2> volume*
[06:25] <arno> paradizelost : i only have vmware-config-network.pl
[06:26] <ron_o> so it can see the printer but it won't print? rendo..
[06:26] <Bassetts> dooglus: still asks me for pass and i can get into authorized_keys
[06:26] <paradizelost> arno: then run tat
[06:26] <paradizelost> that
[06:26] <dooglus> Bassetts: can you pastebin the results of running "ls -alR ~/.ssh" on the remote server please?
[06:26] <Bassetts> dooglus: cant
[06:26] <jrib> protocol2: you can set it in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:26] <rendo> Yes, it says printing: job-printing
[06:26] <rendo> And just sits there
[06:26] <paradizelost> arno: or you could upgrade to vmware-server, it's also free, and much more capable
[06:26] <_chris__> how do you tell if your graphics card is working properly ?
[06:26] <ron_o> I've had that happen before. I just deleted the printer and added a new one. I'm sorry. I don't know what else to do.
[06:26] <dooglus> Bassetts: authorized_keys is the name for the copy of the key file on the server
[06:26] <paradizelost> _chris__: glxinfo
[06:26] <tritium> arno: you're using the vmware ubuntu packages available in the repo?
[06:26] <paradizelost> _chris__: and see if it says "direct rendering - yes"
[06:27] <arno> yes
[06:27] <ron_o> you can run cups right from your browser if you like..
[06:27] <_chris__> thanks paradizelost
[06:27] <Bassetts> dooglus: i know
[06:27] <protocol2> jrib, thanks because I have a windows key that can serve a purpose rather than just being there for looks...;)
[06:27] <arno> tritium yes
[06:27] <rendo> Now it says it's done.
[06:27] <rendo> WTF
[06:27] <judah> authorized_keys2 as well
[06:27] <dooglus> Bassetts: copy the .id_rsa.pub file into ~/.ssh on the server and rename it as authorized_keys
[06:27] <rendo> It didn't even print
[06:27] <tritium> arno: okay, just double-checking
[06:27] <_chris__> missing a lot!
[06:27] <_chris__> and errors
[06:27] <arno> it is updated
[06:27] <paradizelost> arno: that would explain why you don't have some of the stuff.
[06:27] <affan> hi all... how do i mount my digital camera USB? i can list USB devices and it shows there too
[06:27] <paradizelost> arno: generally, for vmware stuff, i stay far far away from the repo's
[06:28] <paradizelost> arno: as it is proprietary anyways
[06:28] <_chris__> paradizelost or dbo pastebin it?
[06:28] <Bassetts> dooglus: mv: cannot stat `authorized_keys/id_rsa.pub': Permission denied
[06:28] <arno> no
[06:28] <tritium> paradizelost: for what reason?
[06:28] <paradizelost> tritium: so that you get all of the utils, of course i don't touch vmware-player w/ a 10 foot pole either, and vmware-server isn't in the repos
[06:29] <paradizelost> but they get updated often enough, i don't want to have to worry about the package maintainer getting the updates into the repos
[06:29] <tritium> paradizelost: oh
[06:29] <_chris__> DBO want to try helping me out getting my graphics card working?
[06:29] <_chris__> :)
[06:29] <paradizelost> _chris__: what type of graphics card?
[06:29] <paradizelost> _chris__: nvidia?
[06:29] <paradizelost> _chris__: or ATI?
[06:29] <_chris__> hold on on a dell precision m50 laptop
[06:30] <_chris__> nvidia
[06:30] <paradizelost> _chris__: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:30] <ron_o> rendo. In the command line print this: lpstat -p
[06:30] <paradizelost> _chris__: then change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf the line that has "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:30] <paradizelost> _chris__: then reboot
[06:30] <arno> tritium : what's the repo?
[06:31] <_chris__> ok hold on
[06:31] <paradizelost> arno: repo=repository
[06:31] <protocol2> haha cool my windows key opens a terminal now
[06:31] <arno> tritium synaptic?
[06:31] <mauricemoss> does anyone know if the promise fasttrak tx2000 is supported?
[06:31] <paradizelost> arno: synaptic uses the repositories, it's the location where all of the software is
[06:31] <arno> well it is on date paradizelost...
[06:32] <batte> protocol2: my "ctrl alt del" opens proces manager
[06:32] <paradizelost> arno: huh?
[06:32] <jero> how do i reinstall ubuntu over an already partitioned ubuntu?
[06:32] <Steve^> When installing apache, where is my public_html folder?
[06:32] <arno> paradizelost: I don't think that should be the problem...
[06:32] <paradizelost> Steve^: /var/www
[06:32] <drfoomod2> Steve^: it needs to be created
[06:32] <Steve^> Or, where does "localhost" point to
[06:32] <protocol2> cool cool
[06:33] <drfoomod2> Steve^: ~/public_html
[06:33] <stickys> hello all
[06:33] <affan> jero: just format the partition when it asks
[06:33] <drfoomod2> therefore http://server/~steve
[06:33] <batte> protocol2: how did u manage to do that .. what command
[06:33] <rendo> ron_o printer imageRunner-330s now printing imageRunner-330s-3.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00
[06:33] <drfoomod2> will pt. there
[06:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jero: just reformat and reuse the partitions or repartition the harddrive if you want
[06:33] <paradizelost> Steve^: are you talking the global website?  then its /var/www/
[06:33] <arno> paradizelost vmnet is still not loaded
[06:33] <ron_o> I don't get it then... hmmm...
[06:33] <jero> how do i reinstall ubuntu over an already partitioned ubuntu?
[06:33] <protocol2> batte, to make my windows key a terminal key?
[06:33] <paradizelost> arno: is there a reason you are using player instead of server or workstation?
[06:33] <batte> yes
[06:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jero: just reformat and reuse the partitions or repartition the harddrive if you want
[06:34] <NoUse> jero two people have told you, just format the parition ubuntu is on when the installer asks
[06:34] <stickys> I was trying to find a ubuntu_ppc.  is there one? I have a powerbook pismo X question
[06:34] <ron_o> rendo, did you say you are on a LAN?
[06:34] <paradizelost> arno: i can't really help you with the version in the repo's because they don't have all the tools
[06:34] <Steve^> paradizelost, it seems so, how can I have a non-global one?  Is there a howto for this (I couldn't find it)?
[06:34] <ron_o> or are you directly connected to the printer.
[06:34] <protocol2> i went to system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[06:34] <jero> ok
[06:34] <jero> thanks sorry didnt see it
[06:34] <protocol2> then specified it there
[06:34] <arno> paradizelost ; what's workstation?
[06:34] <drfoomod2> Steve^: did you see my response?
[06:34] <arno> is it free??
[06:34] <arno> paradizelost is it free?
[06:34] <drfoomod2> Steve^: create ~/public_html
[06:34] <paradizelost> arno: workstation isn't free, server is
[06:35] <protocol2> batte, you can even use key combos too its sweet
[06:35] <Steve^> ah, thanks drfoomod2
[06:35] <batte> protocol2: o yes :) I see
[06:35] <drfoomod2> Steve^: by default, Apache maps /home/foo/public_html to http://localhost/~foo
[06:35] <protocol2> yup
[06:35] <arno> paradizelost how do i get server?
[06:35] <rendo> I said in order to detect the printer I had to scan the lan, otherwise it wouldn't.  I'm running the livecd ron_o
[06:35] <paradizelost> Steve^: the ~/public_html would be so that you can go to http://www.whatever.com/~name and get something idfferent than www.whatever.com
[06:35] <paradizelost> arno: go to www.vmware.com and sign up
[06:35] <arno> paradizelost will it work better?
[06:35] <paradizelost> arno: yes
[06:36] <perrupa> Hey Hey guys, I'm having some struggles getting a USB HD enclosure to work in Dapper. it shows up in nautilus but says "mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1"
[06:36] <stickys> on first boot on my powerbook G3,  X does not come up, and I am left at the prompt.
[06:36] <paradizelost> arno: you will need to remove vmware-player before you install though
[06:36] <stickys> help
[06:36] <ron_o> I'm sorry. I don't want to waste any more of your time. You can try CUPS directly using: http://localhost:631
[06:36] <batte> perrupa: than go root and mount
[06:36] <ron_o> I don't know what's wrong. :/
[06:36] <Bassetts> dooglus??
[06:36] <perrupa> I've tried mounting using sudo, but little to no luck
[06:36] <dooglus> Bassetts: ??
[06:37] <batte> perrupa: terminal -> su -> rootpass -> mount /dev/sdb1
[06:37] <Bassetts> [17:28]  <Bassetts> dooglus: mv: cannot stat `authorized_keys/id_rsa.pub': Permission denied
[06:37] <rendo> Not really wasting my time ron_o
[06:37] <NoUse> batte root is disabled in ubuntu
[06:37] <ron_o> if I don't know what else to do I would. :)
[06:37] <jero> anyone seen this problem before? i installed the nvidia legacy drivers as the wiki said (my card is on the list) and when i rebooted X wouldnt start because it said no device found
[06:37] <dooglus> Bassetts: 18:30 <dooglus> you need to run step 1 before step 3...
[06:37] <dooglus> 18:30 <dooglus> that's why the "mv" error happened
[06:37] <Miles_Prower> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, EXCELLENT help. Now all i got to do is figure out why sound wont work.
[06:37] <batte> NoUse: aaah didnt knew that
[06:37] <mauricemoss> did anyone get hardware based raid working???
[06:37] <rendo> I'm doing this for my mother in law until her new harddrive comes in since her other one blew.  Forcing her to use a livecd since that's the only thing that will work as an OS :/
[06:37] <paradizelost> NoUse: not disabled, you just need to use sudo
[06:37] <Bassetts> dooglus: i did
[06:37] <dooglus> Bassetts: didn't you see the private messages?
[06:38] <Bassetts> dooglus: no
[06:38] <NoUse> paradizelost which means the root user is disabled :-) sudo just gives you the access
[06:38] <dooglus> Bassetts: can you pastebin "ls -alR ~/.ssh" again please?
[06:38] <ron_o> rendo, if it's only temporary you can try other live cds to see if they work better right from the starr.
[06:38] <ron_o> start*
[06:38] <stickys> on first boot on my powerbook G3,  X does not come up, and I am left at the prompt.
[06:38] <paradizelost> NoUse: or you can sudo su -, then passwd
[06:38] <paradizelost> :D
[06:38] <ron_o> But my experience is everyone has its faults.
[06:38] <NoUse> paradizelost I know
[06:38] <Miles_Prower> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, When setting up ubuntu, i noticed many error messages when it was setting up Gstreamer. is that what i'd reconfigure next?
[06:38] <paradizelost> NoUse: maybe he did that
[06:38] <rendo> ron_o It works for what she needs, except the printer. :P
[06:39] <perrupa> batte: I can't seem to su possibly cause it's Ubuntu, doesn't it disable root by default?
[06:39] <NoUse> paradizelost the command he gave wasn't going to work, he said to use su by itself, thats why I said that
[06:39] <batte> perrupa: yes su is disabled
[06:39] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: i would assume so , but i havent done it myself , cant really help you with sound ,
[06:39] <dooglus> perrupa: root isn't disabled, it's just that root's password is locked.
[06:39] <batte> they just told me
[06:39] <paradizelost> NoUse: but if he had set a root password, i t would work
[06:39] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: im new to linux myself
[06:39] <rendo> I'd love to install ubuntu for her and let her use it over windows. :P
[06:39] <NoUse> paradizelost you really want to win this argument don't you?
[06:39] <mukund> sladen: around?
[06:39] <paradizelost> NoUse: bantering semantics
[06:39] <paradizelost> :P
[06:39] <_chris__> paradizelost theres so much now to the glxinfo
[06:39] <Miles_Prower> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, Thanks anyways.. my Gnome looked horrible with the LCD stretch effect.
[06:39] <rendo> But she only started usijng computers again 8 months ago and is used to windows. :/
[06:39] <paradizelost> _chris__: yep'
[06:40] <sladen> mukund: yup
[06:40] <_chris__> so its working now ? :)
[06:40] <perrupa> I guess the fact that this HD is ntfs isn't helping anything either :|
[06:40] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Miles_Prower: no problem
[06:40] <nf4> i figured out how to get all the resilutions the same but for some reson it changed the resilution of my bios readout the part that is befor the os even loads i can seem to find any documintation on that
[06:40] <paradizelost> _chris__: run glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:40] <dooglus> Bassetts: I don't see any of your private messages other than the pastebin URLs
[06:40] <nf4> the letters are huge
[06:40] <NoUse> perrupa you realized you'll only be able to read from it right?
[06:40] <mukund> sladen: (sorry this may be a bit offtopic) are there any employment opportunities for a C/GTK coder who's good at linux at ubuntu?
[06:40] <Bassetts> dooglus: i have only send pastebin URLs
[06:40] <perrupa> yeah, I'm aware of that
[06:41] <perrupa> but it's got all my mp3s and videos on it
[06:41] <cytrak> I found openvpn on the packages.ubuntu.com site but apt-get can't find it
[06:41] <mukund> sladen: there are some positions on the /employment page, but not any for C programmers
[06:41] <NoUse> !info openvpn
[06:41] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB
[06:41] <dooglus> Bassetts: ok.  so run steps 1 through 7 again.  it looks like step 1 was mistyped before
[06:41] <paradizelost> _chris__: that should tell you what fps your getting, anything under 1000 is an older card usually., my geforce go 6800 gets 11,000
[06:41] <NoUse> cytrak its in univerise
[06:41] <paradizelost> fps
[06:41] <NoUse> !tell cytrak about repos
[06:41] <batte> whats best to use ... fat32 or fat16
[06:41] <_chris__> bash: run: command not found
[06:41] <paradizelost> batte: fat32
[06:42] <perrupa> NoUse: any ideas though? it automounted no problem when I was using breezy but it won't work in dapper :|
[06:42] <paradizelost> _chris__: glxgears
[06:42] <paradizelost> ?
[06:42] <Bassetts> dooglus: i havent seen 7 steps :S
[06:42] <jenda> how does one make a menu entry through the command line?
[06:42] <cytrak> just found that out , changing sources.list
[06:42] <NoUse> perrupa is the device listed in /etc/fstab
[06:42] <paradizelost> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:42] <dooglus> Bassetts: you don't see my private messages?
[06:42] <paradizelost> should work
[06:42] <_chris__> its good paradizelost
[06:42] <jenda> (gnome menu enrtry)
[06:42] <_chris__> ha its a stupid gear thing
[06:42] <Bassetts> dooglus: no
[06:42] <_chris__> can i close it?
[06:42] <Bassetts> dooglus: your nick registered, you have to be register and idented to send pms i think
[06:43] <perrupa> NoUse: yeah it is
[06:43] <sladen> mukund: okay, are you thinking of applying for some of them?
[06:43] <perrupa> NoUse: Same params as my sda which mounts perfectly
[06:43] <NoUse> perrupa you add user, to the options columb
[06:43] <paradizelost> _chris__: yes.
[06:43] <paradizelost> _chris__: just ctrl+C
[06:44] <_chris__> yup :)
[06:44] <mukund> sladen: i have done basic programming in python (sorting my mails, etc.) but am really a C guy..
[06:44] <_chris__> paradizelost thanks so much for all the help :)
[06:44] <_chris__> your a lifesavor!
[06:44] <perrupa> Where would that be ?
[06:44] <perrupa> /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:44] <sladen> mukund: there's certainly need for that, most of the core packages are written in C.  fresh stuff tends to be done in pythong
[06:44] <mukund> sladen: i looked at bzr's sources yesterday and didn't think it'd be right for me
[06:44] <mukund> oh
[06:44] <jero> is there a problem with the nvidia legacy drivers that anyone knows about?
[06:45] <NoUse> perrupa the columns are listed at the top of the file, but its the section with defaults,nls=...
[06:45] <mukund> sladen: can i send my resume some place so the right people can see it?
[06:45] <amarokker> Hi, when I export PNG graphics from inkscape to pdf, they have these white backgrounds-
[06:45] <sladen> mukund: the best way is to get into working on some projects, and then look at getting hired based on your contributions
[06:45] <amarokker> is there a way to get round this?
[06:45] <mukund> hmm
[06:45] <sladen> mukund: yes, you can send it to  hr@canonical.com  and if you're in London, it's certainly worth doing that
[06:45] <mukund> i'm in london :)
[06:46] <MenZa> I wish I was :(
[06:46] <SeanTater> how might one open a .deb to see what's inside
[06:46] <Frem> In kernel panics, is it usual to have an "unknown_bootoption" thing at the end? I don't know very much about this, but it looks like my kernel is being reloaded and crashing every time I try to connect to a wifi network.
[06:46] <TLE> Does saefish include the ability to control where a certain kind of window is opened ?
[06:46] <TLE> soory sawfish
[06:47] <TLE> sorry, I just keep typing like shit
[06:47] <mukund> sladen: who shall i address it to?
[06:47] <perrupa> ok done
[06:47] <paradizelost> well, all, i gotta take off, i'll cya l8r
[06:47] <NoUse> SeanTater I think you can open it with archive maanager
[06:47] <jero> can you resize windows partitions also during install?
[06:47] <perrupa> NoUse: Ok, now just log off and back on
[06:47] <perrupa> ?
[06:48] <SeanTater> NoUse: thx
[06:48] <neotard> SeanTater:  doesn't hurt to read "man dpkg", but the contents list is done by "dpkg -c <filename"
[06:48] <NoUse> perrupa umount and remount
[06:48] <sladen> mukund: probably Jane Silber, I'm think it's intentionally anonymous :)
[06:48] <NoUse> perrupa I think you should just be able to click on the icon now
[06:48] <smahoney> Hey all, anybody have any experience with weird freezes when renderaccel is set to true (and feel like helping me out)?
[06:48] <_chris__> http://69.37.33.242/CrossOver-Office-Pro-5.0.sh.zip is that working?
[06:49] <perrupa> NoUse: I get this now - You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "externalhd".
[06:49] <nf4> i think that it is odd that it changed the resilution of when the bios is loading
[06:49] <tab_> hello, i have a problm. my computer has ati radeon 9600 video card, i have the driver package, but the automatic installation doesnt ork
[06:49] <nf4> i couldnt find any documention on that
[06:49] <tab_> *work
[06:49] <_chris__> somehow my apache doesn't work for people outuside my network?
[06:49] <mukund> sladen: :) i read somewhere that it's good manners to use the name of the hiring manager if available, that's why i asked.. will send email off now
[06:49] <NoUse> perrupa add umask=0000 to the options
[06:49] <neotard> tab_:  did you follow the howto on the ubuntu wiki?
[06:49] <jero> How do i enable rub if i install ubuntu first then install windows
[06:49] <neotard> tab_:  if you did.. after installation/configuration, did you restart? :)
[06:50] <jero> grub*
[06:50] <perrupa> NoUse: Done, still the same  - You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "externalhd".
[06:50] <NoUse> perrupa umount then clck on it
[06:51] <perrupa> umount: /media/sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[06:52] <perrupa> I'm not too familiar with umount though so I could be typing it wrong
[06:52] <eXCeSS> sup
[06:52] <neotard> anyone know how I might go about recording skype?
[06:52] <NoUse> perrupa just 'umount /mount/point'
[06:52] <perrupa> umount /media/sdb1 gave me that error
[06:52] <neotard> perrupa:  if it says it's not mounted there, it's not mounted :)
[06:52] <jorgp> lol, when banshee imports music dir it grinds the rest of the machine to a halt
[06:53] <neotard> perrupa:  type "mount" and you'll get a list of the current mounts
[06:53] <NoUse> perrupa 'mount /media/sdb1 && ls -ld /media/*' what are the permissions on sdb1
[06:54] <perrupa> NoUse: I just got it working man
[06:54] <nf4> i have tried every thing that the resilution wiki said and i cant get it to change the resilution until it gets to the login screen any thing befor that is super large
[06:54] <NoUse> perrupa what did you do?
[06:54] <perrupa> right before those last two messages
[06:55] <perrupa> I forgot that when I went to a forum to try and find solutions I had mounted it to /media/extetrnalhd
[06:55] <NoUse> perrupa ah
[06:55] <perrupa> so I umounted that and I was off to the races :D
[06:55] <perrupa> will it mount properly on reboot?
[06:55] <green_il> hey, anyone know who the events coordinator for you guys is?
[06:55] <NoUse> perrupa should
[06:55] <perrupa> Thanks a ton man
[06:55] <nf4> i dont even understand how the bios resilution can even get changed by the os
[06:55] <_chris__> DBO why is my apache2 wont be public?
[06:56] <perrupa> this is why I think I'll be switching over to Linux full time, guys like you :D
[06:56] <_chris__> it stoped after i restarted
[06:56] <Shadowhand> anyone have a real, working solution to the latest wine/WoW bug?
[06:56] <batte> _chris__:  did u alter the apache config file?
[06:56] <_chris__> batte what do you mean?
[06:56] <NoUse> Shadowhand aside from the fix thats in the wiki?
[06:57] <Shadowhand> NoUse, hmm, lemme check that real quick
[06:57] <NoUse> !wow
[06:57] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:57] <batte> _chris__: the apache server has a file (dont know name) where u can set variables ...
[06:57] <_chris__> DBO we need you!
[06:57] <batte> _chris__:  standard it only broadcasts to localhost
[06:57] <jero> is there a way to resize your ubuntu partition after it is installed?
[06:57] <_chris__> ok hold on i am thinking
[06:58] <nf4> did you try gparted ?
[06:58] <nf4> gparted is the gnome partitioning tool
[06:58] <neotard> batte:  actually, by default apache2 attaches to any IP listening publicly on port 80
[06:58] <_chris__> batte i am in pain lol i hate doing things on my own but i think i know what to do
[06:58] <cytrak> is it possible to install apt and dpkg on a debian system that does not have any developer tools ?
[06:59] <neotard> _chris__:  all apache configurations by default in /etc/apache2, site configurations are in /etc/apache2/sites-avaiable, and enabled sites are in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[06:59] <batte> neotard: and ist that localhost? :s im not that good at that stuff but it was in my case
[06:59] <Jack-Ho> hey, did a few days ago were a "big" update, i mean somting like 70~ okgs?
[06:59] <Jack-Ho> pkgs*
[06:59] <_chris__> neotard i changed my location /home/www
[06:59] <neotard> batte:  well sure, localhost will work as will your public ip.  localhost is an alias to 127.0.0.1
[07:00] <neotard> _chris__:  ok, so what's going on then?
[07:00] <pizux> hello is there a way under ubuntu to burn .mdf .mds files?
[07:00] <_chris__> well u try going here this website
[07:00] <mwe> cytrak: any debian system has those tools installed or it can't install anything
[07:00] <_chris__> hold on
[07:00] <downtownsquirrel> cd german
[07:00] <graham> guys has anyone a fasttrack client running
[07:00] <batte> neotard: i just changed 127.0.0.1 to *
[07:01] <Shadowhand> NoUse, yah, nothing there i haven't tried
[07:01] <mwe> pizux: I think k3b does
[07:01] <downtownsquirrel> i've got a qustion: why can't i install xawtv using apt-get @ buntu ?
[07:01] <_chris__> http://69.37.33.242/CrossOver-Office-Pro-5.0.sh.zip
[07:01] <Shadowhand> NoUse, this issue is directly linked to WoW patch 1.11
[07:01] <_chris__> does it work?
[07:01] <Frem> Every time I connect to a wifi network with my Arthos card, I get a kernel panic. This has been happening off and on since flight 7. Is this a known problem with the Arthos driver?
[07:01] <batte> downtownsquirrel: u can find xawtv in the install/ remove programm
[07:01] <neotard> _chris__:  sure, what's the issue though?
[07:02] <_chris__> it works neotard?
[07:02] <neotard> _chris__:  it wants to download, I'm not going to download it though :)
[07:02] <mwe> downtownsquirrel: if you enable universe you can
[07:02] <_chris__> neotard thank you :)
[07:02] <_chris__> it works yippie!
[07:02] <downtownsquirrel> batte: thank you really very much =)
[07:02] <_chris__> neotard your a genious!
[07:02] <mwe> !tell downtownsquirrel about universe
[07:03] <batte> mwe tell us all :)
[07:03] <graham> does anybody know if there are fasttrack-gift packages for ubuntu? - please
[07:03] <garryF> What is xawtv?
[07:03] <mwe> !universe
[07:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:03] <stickys> I was away, sorry
[07:03] <stickys> anyone
[07:03] <mwe> !info xawtv
[07:03] <stickys> on first boot on my powerbook G3,  X does not come up, and I am left at the prompt.
[07:03] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In repository universe, is extra. Version 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 712 kB
[07:03] <tab_> how i start package reconfiguration tool (i have finnish ubuntu, dont kvow what program it is)
[07:03] <graham> ta
[07:03] <tab_> *know
[07:04] <Rarj> I cannot play mp3, movies or 3gp files on totem. Can anyone help ?
[07:04] <downtownsquirrel> mwe: wtf is unierse ?
[07:04] <neotard> tvtime > xawtv :D
[07:04] <downtownsquirrel> *universe
[07:04] <mwe> downtownsquirrel: read
[07:04] <voraistos> stickys: lucky boy ;)
[07:04] <mukund> sladen: sent; thank you for the tip :)
[07:04] <mwe> downtownsquirrel: see what ubotu said to you
[07:04] <batte> downtownsquirrel: IMHO i think tvtime is a better programm
[07:04] <voraistos> stickys: what does the system tell you ?
[07:05] <neotard> batte:  installed tvtime last night and loving it myself.
[07:05] <downtownsquirrel> ok i enabled the universe repository =)
[07:05] <stickys> nothing
[07:05] <voraistos> when you "startx" for example.
[07:05] <MisterN> tvtime is the only tv program i could deal with ever
[07:05] <stickys> it just comes up at the prompt
[07:05] <neotard> on the plus side, tvtime doesn't screw over your x session if you use the proprietary ati driver :)
[07:05] <downtownsquirrel> ...now installing "tv time"
[07:05] <mwe> downtownsquirrel: good now update and install xawtv
[07:05] <Rarj> I cannot play mp3, movies or 3gp files on totem. Can anyone help ?
[07:05] <stickys> I remember before when I intalled fedora
[07:05] <mwe> !mp3
[07:05] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:06] <graham> mp3 needed?
[07:06] <stickys> I changed some settings in the xorg.conf file
 how to?
[07:06] <graham> seach for ubuntu restricted howto
[07:06] <voraistos> stickys. when at the prompt, type in startx. It will tell you something.
[07:06] <graham> u get that rarj
[07:06] <stickys> I will try
[07:06] <Rarj> cant play them. missing codecs
[07:06] <Rarj> graham, yes
[07:06] <sladen> mukund: good luck
[07:06] <rpedro> !restricted
[07:06] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:07] <graham> yeah - search for ubunut restricted formats howto on google
[07:07] <voraistos> stickys. it is certainly a graphic driver problem, so it shouldnt be big deal.
[07:08] <garryF> !info easybuntu
[07:08] <ubotu> Package easybuntu does not exist in dapper
[07:08] <stickys> no screens found
[07:08] <garryF> LOL, I just used it the other day.
[07:08] <mwe> !easyubuntu
[07:08] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:08] <tab_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto?highlight=%28install%29%7C%28driver%29%7C%28ati%29 , i dont get the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work
[07:08] <Rarj> thanks
[07:08] <stickys> XIO: fatal error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "0:0"
[07:08] <graham> no prob
[07:09] <garryF> Pretty poor info on it. It installs video drivers, codecs and other commonly needed apps at your choice.
[07:09] <mwe> garryF: but there is no easyubuntu package that's why it says so
[07:09] <stickys> screens found but none have a usable conguration.
[07:09] <garryF> yeah, teach me not to start out on this channel before I start breathing in the morning.
[07:09] <stickys> failed to open frame buffer device
[07:09] <tab_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto?highlight=%28install%29%7C%28driver%29%7C%28ati%29 , i dont get the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wor
[07:09] <rpedro> stickys: you using Xgl?
[07:09] <Sealteam> anybody here of libgd
[07:10] <Sealteam> hear of
[07:10] <tab_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto?highlight=%28install%29%7C%28driver%29%7C%28ati%29 , i dont get the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" wor
[07:10] <tab_> k
[07:10] <voraistos> stickys. this is graphic card issue. I am quite sure it is not recognised properly, so X cant start at all. the problem is i am no mac user at all.
[07:10] <rckyhillsd> Hey guys...I've got a quick question.  I need to install Ubuntu 6.06.  Is there an install option that'll let me skip the live CD option, and just go straight to the installer program like in older versions of Ubuntu?
[07:10] <Sealteam> im trying to install bugzilla and perl needs libgd
[07:10] <Hotdog003> rckyhillsd: Use the alternate install CD iso.
[07:10] <Hotdog003> Worked for me
[07:11] <Sealteam> tried apt-get nothing
[07:11] <rckyhillsd> k, I'll start downloading that...thanks a ton Hotdog003 :)
[07:11] <Sealteam> have good repository list
[07:11] <garryF> Alternate cd is far better, far mor flexible
[07:11] <Hotdog003> No prob
[07:11] <stickys> its cool, I remember something about the horizontal and vertical numbers
[07:11] <Hotdog003> rckyhillsd: IIf you don't mind sacrificing a pretty GUI but just want to get it on the hard drive, then alternate is for you.
[07:11] <rpedro> stickys: try first setting a lower resolution like 1024x768
[07:12] <s0nix> Hi, im searching someone who can help me to install my modem 56k Conexant on my Laptop Inspiron 9400. I have tryed the tutorial on the wiki a lot of time. but no sucess.
[07:12] <voraistos> stickys. u have to search google about your graphic card to know which driver you need to use. a guy had a problem lik that on a mac before, even vga couldnt work.
[07:12] <rckyhillsd> yeah, I don't need no stinkin GUIs ;)
[07:12] <Hotdog003> Cool then.
[07:12] <jahshua> hello peeps can someone please tell me where Synaptic is located under the menu on Gnome?
[07:12] <rpedro> stickys: and leave h+v sync nunmbers commented out
[07:12] <garryF> Er a pretty Installition Gui.
[07:12] <Hotdog003> jahshua: System > Preferences
[07:12] <Hotdog003> or System > Adminstration
[07:12] <Hotdog003> Forget which
[07:12] <stickys> rpedro I will try
[07:12] <tab_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto?highlight=%28install%29%7C%28driver%29%7C%28ati%29 , i dont get the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work, it complains that command dpkg-reconfigure doesnt exist, any ideas how to solve this?
[07:13] <jahshua> ok thanks
[07:13] <kbukhari> hello
[07:13] <kbukhari> i want to install kde on ubuntu
[07:13] <tab_> how i see my ubuntu version
[07:13] <kbukhari> how can i ?
[07:13] <Hotdog003> Kubuntu
[07:13] <voraistos> kubuntu
[07:13] <kbukhari> no
[07:13] <kbukhari> i dont wana go for kubuntu'
[07:13] <dooglus> kbukhari: install the "kubuntu-desktop" package
[07:14] <voraistos> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <perrupa> Any one got any advices or sources of info on how to get compiz running as stable as possible? I had it running but it would crash on alt tabs or when I loaded Kopete etc.. :|
[07:14] <garryF> You will be able to switch between gnome or kde as default
[07:14] <itzbuddman> hello  i just installed the linux my first time ever i like it so far  but having problems installing programs  like aim and real player  can some-1 help me
[07:14] <kbukhari> it say
[07:14] <voraistos> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[07:14] <kbukhari> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[07:15] <voraistos> ?
[07:15] <Hotdog003> itzbuddman: You can't install real player, that's for windows only
[07:15] <tab_> how i see my ubuntu version ?
[07:15] <dooglus> Hotdog003: oh stop it :)
[07:15] <Hotdog003> itzbuddman: Linux is COMPLETELY different
[07:15] <garryF> on command line uname -r
[07:15] <batte> itzbuddman: aim /// i think its almost the same as Gaim
[07:15] <Hotdog003> itzbuddman: For aim, try gAIM, for real player try rythimbox
[07:15] <itzbuddman> they have a linux version
[07:15] <garryF> oooper, er about ubuntu under system
[07:15] <BrownMan> does anyone here use the RSS gnome panel applet?
[07:15] <kbukhari> dooglus: in run this command but i says E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <voraistos> i take a look
[07:16] <batte> gAIM -> aim
[07:16] <neutrinomass> Hotdog003: It's not windows only ...
[07:16] <dooglus> kbukhari: which command
[07:16] <Hotdog003> Oh?
[07:16] <garryF> Nothing like clumsy fingers to make me look like a tard.
[07:16] <neutrinomass> Hotdog003: I think it's in multiverse ...
[07:16] <Hotdog003> ... really?
[07:16] <Hotdog003> Real player?
[07:16] <kbukhari> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <kbukhari> * TLE has quit ("Lost terminal")
[07:16] <dooglus> !info realplayer
[07:16] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB
[07:16] <Dragoonz> hello everyone one
[07:16] <Hotdog003> WTF?!
[07:16] <Hotdog003> Lol
[07:16] <Hotdog003> nice
[07:16] <Sealteam> anyone have the ultimate repository list for dapper?
[07:16] <dooglus> !info kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <neutrinomass> So yeah it exists, but I'd rather not use it :)
[07:16] <voraistos> kbukhari: make sure your computer is connected to the network ;)
[07:16] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.85 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:16] <neutrinomass> Hotdog003: Yeah I know, took me by surprise as well ;)
[07:16] <kbukhari> u can use wine for intalling realplaer or use its free version for linux
[07:16] <itzbuddman> im able to download  but having problems installing
[07:16] <kbukhari> yes
[07:17] <Dragoonz> !info kubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.85 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:17] <kbukhari> it is connected with network
[07:17] <dooglus> kbukhari: you didn't make a typing error?  kubuntu-desktop is the package's name
[07:17] <rpedro> !realplayer
[07:17] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:17] <voraistos> kbukhari: u gat problem with your repos
[07:17] <armenb> hi
[07:17] <kbukhari> hmmm
[07:17] <kbukhari> how can i solve it
[07:17] <Hotdog003> !info wine
[07:17] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[07:17] <armenb> i'm having a clock drift problem since switching to ubuntu breezy.
[07:18] <voraistos> kubuntu-desktop exists, it is on my list right now ;)
[07:18] <armenb> my clock (using 2.6 kernel) is too fast, by several minutes a day. this didnt happen when i ran 2.4 and debian.
[07:18] <armenb> any ideas for a quick fix?
[07:18] <garryF> You mean its not the year 3099?
[07:19] <rpedro> !tell kbukhari about repositories
[07:19] <garryF> some sort of linuc clock syncing program. No clue about which one.
[07:19] <voraistos> kbukhari: take a look in synaptic
[07:19] <kbukhari> how can i ser
[07:19] <Hotdog003> armenb: There's a way to fix that somewhere... I'll go look it up in my evil linux book, I think it's something like "rtc2hwc", not sure- program syncs its real-time clock to the hardware clock
[07:19] <kbukhari> how can i check these reps
[07:19] <armenb> what i'm really wondering if there's some kernel option that's not turned on in linux kernel that's causing my clock to be really fast.
[07:20] <voraistos> kbukhari: search for kubuntu, it should be there. otherwise i wonder if you are not still using hoary ;)
[07:20] <voraistos> (not up to date system :) )
[07:20] <mrDaniel> in ubuntu it is very easily to create a new connection to a server: you have just to click on 'Places->connection to server...'. But: how i can delete a connection-icon under places?
[07:20] <Dragoonz> will kubuntu-desktop run under LTSP?
[07:20] <tragek> It's been a while since I'e used linux. I left because I couldn't get the ACPI support I needed (which FreeBSD provided flawlessly). I'm interested in trying it out again, but does anyone know what kind of progress has been made in ACPI since hoary?
[07:21] <voraistos> tragek: perfect
[07:21] <kbukhari> ok
[07:21] <Cerealz> can anyone help? i installed th fglrx drivers.. but now when i fullscreen video (totem,vlc..) the video gets all pixel and bad quality... and if i change back to ati driver(on xorg.congf) it gets fine..
[07:21] <rpedro> mrDaniel: open a nautilus window and choose Bookmarks >> Edit bookmarks
[07:21] <kbukhari> but i am not on fat link right now
[07:21] <kbukhari> :(
[07:21] <mrDaniel> @tragek: in internet you will find a lot pages about acpi+ubuntu
[07:21] <kbukhari> i am on 3 KB link
[07:21] <tragek> voraistos: Worth a try then?
[07:21] <kbukhari> i cant download packages on 100nds of MB
[07:21] <voraistos> yea.
[07:21] <kbukhari> :)
[07:21] <voraistos> :)
[07:22] <mrDaniel> you need: intel ALS compiler, flex-package, bison-package and so on
[07:22] <mrDaniel> important: the intel ASL compiler in the ubuntu-repository ist to old (2005_06_12)
[07:22] <voraistos> tragek: the standard install CD for ubuntu is a live CD, just try, ACPI should work
[07:22] <mrDaniel> you need the newer version from the intel-web-page
[07:23] <kbukhari> ok
[07:23] <Cntryboy> anyone know of a good multi picture renamer?
[07:23] <kbukhari> dig
[07:23] <mrDaniel> @voraistor: why acpi should work?
[07:23] <tragek> mmk. I have a couple old hoary shipits sitting around; can just apt-get dist-upgrade straight to dapper, or am I gonna run into a crap load of dependency issues?
[07:23] <mrDaniel> if the dsdt-table under acpi is broken, you will have to fix it
[07:23] <Hotdog003> armenb: (from "How Linux Works") PC hardware has a battery-backed "real time" clock. It's not the greatest clock in the world, but it's better than nothing. The kernel usually sets its time based on this clock at boot time, and you can reset the system clock to the current hardware time with the command 'hwclock'.
[07:23] <voraistos> tragek: nope, but fresh install is better i think
[07:23] <dooglus> tragek: you're supposed to go one step at a time:  hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[07:24] <kbukhari> and wht min amount of ram and system need by ubuntu 5.4
[07:24] <dooglus> voraistos: upgrading hoary -> dapper isn't a supported operation
[07:24] <itzbuddman> can some-1 private me  so i can get help installing programs   please\
[07:24] <Sealteam> when you install kubuntu-desktop, does it append to or overwrite?
[07:24] <voraistos> dooglus: i never tried that ;)
[07:24] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[07:24] <tragek> mrDaniel: I've had it work 100% perfectly under FreeBSD, which in my mind says my DSDT is fine. (I've also previously disassembled it, and it was fine, only one warning)
[07:24] <dooglus> voraistos: me either, but I read about it
[07:24] <fali> hello, i've got troubles with the sensor applet. it doesn't update the values... what can i do?
[07:25] <mrDaniel> @rpedro: bookmaks doesn't help, but thank you for your help anyway
[07:25] <dooglus> Sealteam: it just installs a bunch of packages.  doesn't uninstall anything.  you'll end up with a choice between GNOME and KDE
[07:25] <Cntryboy> anyone know of a good multi picture renamer?
[07:25] <tragek> alright, so consensus is to just try a clean dapper install.
[07:25] <rpedro> mrDaniel: yes just checked now, it doesn't , sorry :-/
[07:25] <voraistos> kbukhari: hmmm... tell us about your machine. linux doesnt eat toomuch ressources, but... 8megs might not be enough
[07:25] <mrDaniel> @tragek: than you are lucky: my dsdt 16 errors and 8 warnings, thank you microsoft compiler :(
[07:25] <rpedro> mrDaniel: I think you can just right click on the launcher on desktop and choose 'unmount'
[07:26] <garryF> Yes, the fingers, you click on a picture file, choose rename, rename picture, go onto next picture.
[07:26] <kbukhari> ok
[07:26] <mrDaniel> but after my fix 0 errors and 2 warnings
[07:26] <kbukhari> i hav IBM 300PL
[07:26] <kbukhari> with 128 ram
[07:26] <pi1l> hello, my system hangs up periodicaly when using nvidia driver.. does anybody know how to fix it?
[07:26] <webguy> how do i run a php script from the command line?
[07:26] <Hotdog003> php script.php
[07:26] <kbukhari> IBM personal computer 300PL
[07:26] <garryF> IE, there is no program that can guess what you want to rename a picture to.
[07:26] <voraistos> kbukhari: no need to worry then ;)
[07:26] <voraistos> kbukhari: processor ?
[07:26] <tragek> mrDaniel: Thank god for a decent IBM. I've only had one problem with this machine, and that is that the battery blows. And ACPI sleep doesn't seem to be as low powered as I'm used to. But, other than that, I've yet to have a problem with a working ACPI implementation
[07:26] <kbukhari> 300
[07:27] <kbukhari> 300 Mhz
[07:27] <kbukhari> it was running win98
[07:27] <webguy> Hotdog003: php: command not found
[07:27] <sneex> any one here use DFSBuild ???
[07:27] <kbukhari> :D
[07:27] <voraistos> kbukhari: yeah, that will work
[07:27] <kbukhari> it is working
[07:27] <voraistos> kbukhari: dont forget to recompile everything ;)
[07:27] <jrattner1> ACPI on linux blows...
[07:27] <kbukhari> but for that i have to upgrade ram
[07:27] <kbukhari> win98 was on 32 MB
[07:28] <kbukhari> and now i hav 128
[07:28] <Cntryboy> I want to rename all pictures in one directory with a click of a button with names like 001-9999 ect.. So i need a multi picture renamer. Does anyone know of a good one?
[07:28] <voraistos> kbukhari: so... whats your problem ?
[07:28] <webguy> Hotdog003: ??? any ideas?
[07:28] <Hotdog003> webguy: Is php installed?
[07:28] <tragek> jrattnerl: That's just induces loads of confidence.
[07:28] <mrDaniel> @rpedro: this wokrs, thank you
[07:28] <mrDaniel> but: is this the only way?
[07:28] <el_barto> hi
[07:28] <webguy> php is installed to work via apache but i don't know if it is installed to work from teh commandline Hotdog003
[07:28] <webguy> any way to figure that out
[07:28] <Cntryboy> love it when I'm ignored lol
[07:28] <voraistos> kbukhari: or maybe youre just happy to have a nice system now ;)
[07:29] <kbukhari> i want to install KDE
[07:29] <kbukhari> i am happy with KDE
[07:29] <Hotdog003> webguy: Where did you install php? CD into that folder and then do ./php /path/to/script.php
[07:29] <Hotdog003> webguy: That should work
[07:29] <kbukhari> in my office and notbook i am using linux from last 2 years
[07:29] <voraistos> ooops... yea sorry i forgot about that kbukhari
[07:29] <garryF> I think its not an ignore, but the fact that such a program probably doesn't exist.
[07:29] <webguy> i'll try
[07:29] <Hotdog003> Ok
[07:29] <kbukhari> but with KDE
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> i need help , could someone explain me whats my problem ? i get this error when trying to burn a DVD with k3b , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16199
[07:29] <kbukhari> i hate this fac
[07:29] <kbukhari> i mean GNOM
[07:29] <mrDaniel> the point is: i have deactivated the icons on my gnome (config-editor apps>nautilus->desktop->volumes_invisible=no)
[07:30] <kbukhari> it suck me
[07:30] <shackan> gnome-panel died, fails to be restarted, how do I log off without using the menu ?
[07:30] <voraistos> ooops... so did you check your synaptic ?
[07:30] <kbukhari> !sucks
[07:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about sucks
[07:30] <voraistos> lol
[07:30] <Hotdog003> kbukhari: The only way to get KDE is to install the package kde-desktop
[07:30] <webguy> Hotdog003: i installed the lamp version of ubuntu and under /etc/php5 i only see apache2
[07:30] <dooglus> shackan: "pkill gnome-session" should do it I think
[07:30] <kbukhari> ok
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Hotdog003: kubuntu-desktop also
[07:30] <kbukhari> from where
[07:30] <Cerealz> can anyone help? i installed th fglrx drivers.. but now when i fullscreen video (totem,vlc..) the video gets all pixel and bad quality... and if i change back to ati driver(on xorg.congf) it gets fine..
[07:30] <kbukhari> can i download
[07:30] <rpedro> mrDaniel: I don't know, i usually just use gftp for ftp and a terminal for samba shares , though thats just me , there are probabbly better apps
[07:31] <kbukhari> i will download it from office
[07:31] <voraistos> kbukhari: did you apt-get update ?
[07:31] <Netcad> how would I search a directory that has 42+ txt files to see if the first line starts with 'backup' and if its the case move this file to another directory?
[07:31] <kbukhari> i have 16M link tehre
[07:31] <kbukhari> no
[07:31] <Cntryboy> I want to rename all pictures in one directory with a click of a button with names like 001-9999 ect.. So i need a multi picture renamer. Does anyone know of a good one?
[07:31] <Hotdog003> webguy: Hmm... I'm sure that there are lots of people smarter then me, but you might have to install PHP from php.net to another directory to run it from the command line., LAMP might not include the PHP executable...
[07:31] <garryF> Cerealz:  Only guess I have is that when you install it it goes to the lowest resolution. You need to run something like fixres
[07:31] <kbukhari> i am using slackware
[07:31] <mrDaniel> @rpedro: i think you are right, there are better programs, but i think this is just a comfortable way under ubuntu
[07:31] <tragek> Cerealz: I know nothing about fglrx specifically, but, one thing I can suggest is check out your xorg logs. (in /var/log)
[07:31] <voraistos> kbukhari: do it, you need to see the package
[07:31] <gnomefreak> kbukhari: than join #slackware
[07:31] <kbukhari> but on this system i installed ubuntu
[07:31] <Sealteam> what is open office package listed as in apt-get?
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> any help would be appreciated ? k3b error ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16199
[07:32] <dooglus> Netcad: ls | while read x; do head -1 "$x" | grep -q '^backup' && mv "$x" another-dir/; done
[07:32] <kbukhari> :D
[07:32] <sneex> Cntryboy, use perl
[07:32] <kbukhari> ok things are clear
[07:32] <Cerealz> ok..tks..i'll try that
[07:32] <kbukhari> i have to re intall this system for with slackware ?
[07:33] <fali> Anyone any idea? My Sensors Applet doesn't update it's values (/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature shows newer temperature). Remove and add it again updates the values, but only once, then it keeps its values again...
[07:33] <garryF> SlackBuntu?
[07:33] <voraistos> kbukhari: are you crasy ?
[07:33] <pc22> how do i install xubuntu using xubuntu livecd but text based my celeron wont accpet graphic?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> pc22: you need the alternate cd
[07:33] <kbukhari> no
[07:33] <kbukhari> but seems to b
[07:33] <Cntryboy> sneex I want something that I can easily use..
[07:33] <kbukhari> :p
[07:33] <gnomefreak> kbukhari: do you need help with ubuntu?
[07:33] <Cntryboy> something I install and load up program type
[07:33] <pc22> i cant use my xubuntu live?
[07:33] <kbukhari> yes
[07:33] <gnomefreak> what is the issue?
[07:33] <kbukhari> i want kde
[07:33] <kbukhari> not gnome
[07:34] <gnomefreak> pc22: not unless you have graphics
[07:34] <voraistos> kbukhari: did you sudo before apt ?
[07:34] <kbukhari> so tell me from where i ge its packages
[07:34] <gnomefreak> kbukhari: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <kbukhari> yes
[07:34] <gnomefreak> kbukhari: its in universe repo
[07:34] <voraistos> gnomefreak: i told him, but didnt work
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> gnomefreak,  , i have this error while trying to burn to dvd with k3b, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16199, (I/O error)
[07:34] <Hotdog003> kbukhari: YOu know how to edit your repositories?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> voraistos: he needs universe
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> any help would be very appreciate
[07:34] <kbukhari>  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> d
[07:34] <kbukhari> Password:
[07:34] <kbukhari> Reading package lists... Done
[07:34] <kbukhari> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:34] <kbukhari> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <Hotdog003> You'll need to do that to get KDE
[07:35] <gnomefreak> kbukhari: dont paste in here
[07:35] <voraistos> gnomefreak: no, i have ubuntu and its in main
[07:35] <kbukhari> ok
[07:35] <gnomefreak> voraistos: its in universe
[07:35] <gnomefreak> !info kubuntu-desktop
[07:35] <rpedro> mrDaniel: what type of server you trying to connect to?
[07:35] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.85 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:35] <kbukhari> how can i edit reps
[07:35] <kbukhari> tell me
[07:35] <gnomefreak> oh crap did it move?
[07:35] <Sealteam> are the programs listed init.d the ones that start when ubuntu boots?
[07:35] <sinthoras> hello
[07:35] <gnomefreak> !repos > kbukhari
[07:35] <Hotdog003> kbukhari: Go into system > administration > packages (or system > preferences > packages, I forget which)
[07:36] <voraistos> gnomefreak: i think it depends which server/repos you are using
[07:36] <Hotdog003> etc
[07:36] <kbukhari> Hotdog003, how can i edit repos
[07:36] <webguy> does anyone know what package to install to allow me to run php scripts from the command line?
[07:36] <voraistos> gnomefreak: depending on countries
[07:36] <gnomefreak> kbukhari: check your pm
[07:36] <kbukhari> ok
[07:36] <Slyboots> Damn it, this is driving me *nuts*
[07:36] <gnomefreak> voraistos: it shouldnt
[07:36] <kbukhari> ok
[07:36] <kbukhari> bye bye
[07:36] <SVisor> MarcN: ty! got fglrx working (default setup). Still some artifacts, like login screen on wrong display (solved by turning on auto login).
[07:37] <Hotdog003> Bye, kb!
[07:37] <rpedro> mrDaniel: for ftp and samba shares you can just a 'Network Servers' window, or you can type the correct protocol, and then create bookmarks for nautilus
[07:37] <kbukhari> i think i should move on slackware
[07:37] <kbukhari> ok bye bye
[07:37] <rpedro> mrDaniel: I just tried now, and that seems like the most straight forward way for using nautilus for this
[07:37] <voraistos> gnomefreak: yes and no. repositories are always diferent for some reason. i had trouble because of tht and couldnt understand
[07:37] <SVisor> MarcN: And some screensavers cause corruption (seems to init/use only part of second screen)
[07:38] <Slyboots> Keeps blanking the screen out for no reaking reason
[07:38] <voraistos> gnomefreak: damn we just lost a "client"
[07:38] <gnomefreak> nope
[07:38] <gnomefreak> voraistos: you didnt lose him
[07:38] <Cntryboy> how can I access bulk rename?
[07:38] <Cntryboy> im in add/remove now and it shows it
[07:38] <voraistos> gnomefreak: well, he is back on slackware
[07:38] <Cntryboy> how can i start it up?
[07:38] <nigue> is anybody active?
[07:38] <garryF> I find it difficult to encounter someone who is told how to install kde over and over, who then refuses and then says they are going to slackware and still think they are here for anything but to troll
[07:38] <randomguy> hey my friend is having trouble with installing java for firefox
[07:38] <gnomefreak> thats why im sitting here watching
[07:38] <bilange> Hi. Does anyone have some detailed documentation about ubuntu (or linux) network routing? Im looking most specificly for setup instructions
[07:39] <nigue> hi
[07:39] <voraistos> gnomefreak: at least he is not back to Windows
[07:39] <kbukhari> quit
[07:39] <garryF> Plus this hook gash on my lip makes me suspicious.
[07:39] <randomguy> how do you install java for firefox, firefox is unable to auto install
[07:39] <NoUse> !java
[07:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[07:39] <voraistos> kbukhari: hey
[07:39] <voraistos> kbukhari: all you need is to work with you repos
[07:40] <Hotdog003> He's gone
[07:40] <gnomefreak> voraistos: hes gone
[07:40] <randomguy> but it is breezy
[07:40] <nigue> i got xerox phaser 3122 and i'm having some trouble with administrator login through installation process
[07:40] <Cntryboy> !bulk rename
[07:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about bulk rename
[07:40] <apokryphos> Cntryboy: use krename
[07:40] <Cntryboy> !bulkrename
[07:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about bulkrename
[07:40] <Hotdog003> !terminal size
[07:40] <apokryphos> Cntryboy: investigate with the bot in /msg
[07:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about terminal size
[07:40] <Cntryboy> what is krename?
[07:40] <Hotdog003> Darn, that's *my* problem
[07:40] <apokryphos> Hotdog003: you too :)
[07:40] <NoUse> !msgthebot
[07:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:40] <apokryphos> Cntryboy: /msg ubotu info krename
[07:40] <SVisor> fgl_glxgears goves 800 FPS, is it good?
[07:40] <nigue> could somebody help me?
[07:40] <nigue> :)
[07:40] <brandon> where could i go to report a problem with the new kernel?
[07:41] <brandon> i mean officially?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> brandon: launchpad
[07:41] <SVisor> !ask
[07:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <garryF> If you want help, we have a chance. :)
[07:41] <apokryphos> brandon: /msg ubotu bug
[07:41] <gnomefreak> brandon: is it a bug or an issue?
[07:41] <nigue> !xerox install
[07:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about xerox install
[07:41] <nigue> lol
[07:41] <nigue> :)
[07:41] <sorcre> There seems to be a problem with my X configuration. Whenever I restart Ubuntu I get an X server error. I cp my old configuration file and then it works. For some reason I have to do this every time I reboot
[07:41] <brandon> gnomefreak: i'm not sure
[07:41] <brandon> gnomefreak: a kernel module is behaving incorrectly
[07:42] <gnomefreak> brandon: what is the problem
[07:42] <gnomefreak> brandon: one you built?
[07:42] <brandon> gnomefreak: no
[07:42] <gnomefreak> brandon: /msg ubotu bug
[07:42] <nigue> does anyone have XEROX PHASER 3122?
[07:42] <Cntryboy> krenamer isn't in my repos
[07:42] <Jowi> sorcre: are you saying that your xorg.conf gets overwritten at each boot?
[07:42] <brandon> gnomefreak: that's the way to do it through official channels?
[07:42] <sorcre> Jowi: yes
[07:42] <Cntryboy> can I just add the link manually just for krenamer instead of edit whole source.list and then update the whole thing?
[07:42] <Hotdog003> nigue: Probably not...
[07:42] <Cntryboy> I just want to edit one link and update it
[07:42] <nigue> omg
[07:43] <Hotdog003> !xerox phaser 3122
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about xerox phaser 3122
[07:43] <gnomefreak> brandon: no that will give you the bug report page so you can report the bug
[07:43] <Hotdog003> See?
[07:43] <brandon> i see
[07:43] <nigue> i'm shiftless with that
[07:43] <gnomefreak> !hardware > Hotdog003
[07:43] <Hotdog003> (nigue) :P
[07:43] <nigue> that pissed me off
[07:43] <nigue> :)
[07:43] <gnomefreak> Hotdog003: oops i sent it to you sorry who was needing it?
[07:43] <Hotdog003> [11:45]  <ubotu> gnomefreak wants you to know: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:44] <Hotdog003> Nigue
[07:44] <gnomefreak> Hotdog003: ty
[07:44] <nigue> does anybody have some xerox laser printer????
[07:44] <Jowi> sorcre: that doesn't sound right. when you say the "old config", is the config from another computer or installation?
[07:44] <Hotdog003> !hardware > nigue
[07:44] <randomguy> does Konqueror ship with java installed?
[07:44] <Frem> no
[07:44] <nigue> i know that Xerox Phaser 3122 has support under ubuntu
[07:44] <randomguy> is there a browser that ships with java applet instakked
[07:45] <Frem> not in ubuntu
[07:45] <nigue> i think so
[07:45] <sorcre> Jowi: I installed nvidia-glx and it messed up my X configuration so I installed the Nvidia drivers by hand and it worked. Whenever I restart it overwrites the settings.
[07:45] <sorcre> Jowi: luckily I copied the file before the first reboot.
[07:45] <Jowi> nigue: what is the problem exactly? no connection, messy prints...?
[07:45] <romulo> is cairo-glitz already in dapper?
[07:45] <v3rt3x> I applied updated(except kernel) yesterday and now it is taking a really long time to log in via gdm. any ideas?
[07:46] <sorcre> Jowi: actually, I think I know what is wrong...brb
[07:46] <randomguy> can i have some help plz
[07:46] <nigue> but i got driver
[07:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell randomguy about java
[07:47] <FeestBijtje> how do i search for 1 specified name
[07:47] <Hotdog003> nigue: Can you print anything at all to the printer?
[07:47] <Hotdog003> nigue: ... or was that the problem?
[07:47] <romulo> FeestBijtje, name of?
[07:47] <jrib> randomguy: I don't know of one that ships with it installed, but ubotu has sent you a link to isntructions for getting java
[07:47] <Cntryboy> apokryphos how can I get krename?
[07:47] <nigue> i'm getting only one problem through installation process
[07:47] <Hotdog003> nigue: What's that?
[07:47] <FeestBijtje> romulo i am searching for fotos.zip but when i do find / fotos.zip i get entire lists
[07:48] <randomguy> ok i will work on it
[07:48] <romulo> FeestBijtje, entire lists of?
[07:48] <nigue> if i add printer
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/IconSet.pyo
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/__init__.pyo
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/FileWatcher.pyc
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/GConfWatcher.pyc
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/Icon.pyc
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/IconSet.pyc
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors/StarterBar/__init__.pyc
[07:48] <romulo> argh
[07:48] <nigue> it shows administration login
[07:48] <FeestBijtje> that cind of crap
[07:48] <romulo> dont paste stuff like that
[07:48] <nigue> where is root as login
[07:48] <Hotdog003> nigue: Oh, you can't log in as root?
[07:49] <romulo> well it isnt supposed to appear that way, do find /directory -name fotoz.zip
[07:49] <romulo> fotos*
[07:49] <Guard] [an> re
[07:49] <romulo> FeestBijtje, use -name and you will be fine
[07:49] <Hotdog003> nigue: Ubuntu has root access off by default for security reasons. Just give it your password, and it should let you add the printer.
[07:49] <Guard] [an> does someone know if it's possible to have wireless with broadcom 4306 without using ndiswrapper ???
[07:49] <jrib> In breezy I used to use "ZAxisMapping""4 5 7 6", but with the new evdev in dapper this doesn't seem to be the same.  Is anyone familiar enough with evdev to tell me what the equivalent option is now to save me from some trial and error?
[07:50] <romulo> Guard] [an, check bcm43xx
[07:50] <Cntryboy> apokryphos are you still here?
[07:50] <nbt> hi there's a tool to get the md5 sum of a cd wihouth making it's iso first ?
[07:50] <|SIcNESS|> can anyone help me, im getting while booting cd's ACPI not found, tough its enabled in bios, what to do
[07:50] <erUSUL> Guard] [an: the last kernel 2.6.17 has a driver for broadcom
[07:50] <Guard] [an> romulo : well i had a look at synaptics but it only has source code for the modules. and i don't know what to do next
[07:50] <Slyboots> Why the hell does Xmame.x11 keep blanking otu my screen
[07:51] <monkkey> hello, I am running breezy - had gnome and kubuntu running happily, but now all of a sudden, it will not boot, it runs through and sets up all the inital stuff
[07:51] <monkkey> then freezes, any suggestions?
[07:51] <romulo> Guard] [an, the latest kernel as erUSUL said, does have the module compiled it
[07:51] <romulo> in*
[07:51] <Slyboots> No error, no nothing, display just turns black
[07:51] <romulo> Guard] [an, you can try the actual module too
[07:51] <batte> monkkey: it wants to be dapper? :)
[07:51] <romulo> Guard] [an, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[07:51] <romulo> Guard] [an, i believe it already comes compiled in dapper
[07:51] <Guard] [an> ok
[07:51] <monkkey> o wait sorry, i am running dapper
[07:51] <Guard] [an> gonna try that
[07:51] <ToHellWithGA> holla ballas.  i'd like to use VMWare Player to run windows XP or windows server but do not have a virtual machine.  how can i get a virtual machine without buying or pirating their virtual machines?
[07:51] <Guard] [an> i'm running dapper too
[07:52] <Slyboots> God, no-wonder people dont like to use linux
[07:52] <Guard] [an> shouldn't be automatically detected ???
[07:52] <nbt> hi there's a tool to get the md5 sum of a cd wihouth making it's iso first ?
[07:52] <romulo> Guard] [an, i really dont know
[07:52] <Bazzi> ToHellWithGA: get vmware server, it's free beer as well
[07:52] <ToHellWithGA> could i possibly take their ubuntu image then restart that virtual machine and boot my windows installer from CD?
[07:52] <romulo> Guard] [an, since my chipset isnt supported, im using ndiswrapper
[07:52] <s0nix> Hi, im searching someone who can help me to install my modem 56k Conexant on my Laptop Inspiron 9400. I have tryed the tutorial on the wiki a lot of time. but no sucess.
[07:52] <ToHellWithGA> Bazzi: isn't it a free trial or shareware kind of thing?
[07:53] <Bazzi> no, it's completely free, but you have to register
[07:53] <Guard] [an> ok
[07:53] <Cntryboy> is krenamer only for kde because I can't find shit for gnome
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> do you have a link for me?
[07:53] <downtownsquirrel> tvtime is working and tuned nw =)
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> i'd love to try that
[07:53] <rpedro> monkkey: do you hear the gnome login sound when the screen blanks?
[07:53] <romulo> im off
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> it would also let me try my hand at running gentoo :)
[07:53] <Bazzi> vmware.com in the bottom right corner I thinkl
[07:53] <romulo> cya guys
[07:53] <ToHellWithGA> thanks Bazzi
[07:53] <batte> downtownsquirrel: hehe good programm huh
[07:53] <jrib> nbt: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[07:53] <Bazzi> linux in vmware server is really a great experience atm
[07:53] <monkkey> if, i reinstall kubuntu, without formating, will i have to reinstall all the libarys and applications again?
[07:53] <downtownsquirrel> i think it isn't possible to record video with tvtime, is it ?!
[07:53] <batte> downtownsquirrel: i was just watching MTV on it
[07:54] <s0nix> anyone know if it playable to play a game with vmware (installled on a linux dist)?
[07:54] <rpedro> monkkey: you probably don't want to do that
[07:54] <jrib> s0nix: use the drivers provided by linuxant, though the free version is limited to 14.4
[07:54] <Cntryboy> I hate it when you are fustrated, try try try, then ask for help and you get ignored
[07:54] <|SIcNESS|> can anyone help me, im getting while booting cd's ACPI not found, tough its enabled in bios, what to do?
[07:54] <downtownsquirrel> mokkey: you cant reinstall withoutformatting - you are gona have many "waste files" !
[07:54] <rpedro> monkkey: may just be some prob with display configuration
[07:54] <s0nix> jrib: i tryed ... but it never work .
[07:54] <Guard] [an> well i did sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[07:54] <downtownsquirrel> where do you come from batt ?
[07:54] <Guard] [an> then ?
[07:54] <monkkey> whats the command to setup xserver?
[07:54] <batte> downtownsquirrel: belgium
[07:54] <Guard] [an> ifconfig does not report any wireless adapter
[07:55] <downtownsquirrel> ok im form germany =)
[07:55] <jrib> Cntryboy: what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <batte> downtownsquirrel: ah a neighbour ;)
[07:55] <Jowi> monkkey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:55] <downtownsquirrel> i'm watching "pro sieben"
[07:55] <monkkey> thanks
[07:55] <TABASCOBOTTLE> I am from germany too
[07:55] <s0nix> jrib:  do u installed this modem on ur system ?
[07:55] <downtownsquirrel> hehe
[07:55] <rpedro> monkkey: are you running the system with the problem right now?
[07:55] <khaladan> anyone know what the 'best' utility to get text out of a pdf is?
[07:55] <jrib> s0nix: yes
[07:55] <downtownsquirrel> speak german batte ?
[07:55] <Cntryboy> I want to install a multi picture renamer. So I was going to get krenamer, but it says kde packages not gnome
[07:55] <jrib> s0nix: I just installed the .deb from linuxant
[07:55] <batte> downtownsquirrel: nah not so good, i understand it a litl though
[07:55] <jrib> !info krenamer
[07:55] <ubotu> Package krenamer does not exist in dapper
[07:56] <Cntryboy> jrib http://www.krename.net/Download.3.0.html
[07:56] <Cntryboy> ive read that jrib it tells me nothing
[07:56] <s0nix> .deb don't work at all here. can i past u the error in private?
[07:56] <downtownsquirrel> TABASCOBOTTLE: Sag mal, du kennst nicht zufllig irgendwelche linux-events in der nchsten zeit in d-land, oder ?
[07:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell s0nix about paste
[07:56] <rpedro> monkkey: just switch to text console (press alt+ctrl+f2) and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:56] <Hotdog003> Does anyone know how to change the vertical tty size? Ever since 6.06, it's about 8 characters too short. Google doesn't come up with much of anything to help.
[07:56] <downtownsquirrel> ich war uf dem linuxtag 2006@ wiesbaden !
[07:56] <Jowi> !de
[07:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:56] <jrib> Cntryboy: if you are familiar with regular expressions you can just use 'rename'
[07:56] <s0nix> lol ok
[07:56] <|SIcNESS|> !lt
[07:56] <|SIcNESS|> ;] 
[07:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about lt
[07:56] <s0nix> lets me 2 mins
[07:57] <rpedro> monkkey: and then 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm if you use kubuntu) restart'
[07:57] <|SIcNESS|> can anyone help me, im getting while booting cd's ACPI not found, tough its enabled in bios, what can i do?
[07:57] <batte> downtownsquirrel: hehe i understood most of it
[07:57] <Cntryboy> jrbi not sure what you mean by that, but I just wanna download krename but all i c is kde packages look http://www.krename.net/Download.3.0.html
[07:57] <downtownsquirrel> hehe
[07:57] <Cntryboy> linux is linsux sometimes I swear
[07:57] <downtownsquirrel> is somebody on here who was at the linuxday in germany this year ?!
[07:57] <batte> im off now ... diving training
[07:58] <jrib> Cntryboy: krename is in dapper universe
[07:58] <cisa> hi. i've updated to dapper, coming from breezy. with the default kernel of dapper my system doesn't boot anymore (it hangs after/while init of usb devices). 2.6.15-xx is broken but i can start the maschine with the old 2.6.12-xx kernel. any ideas?
[07:58] <Cntryboy> but their site is saying kde only
[07:58] <jrib> Cntryboy: are you using dapper and have you enabled universe?
[07:58] <Cntryboy> KRename is a powerful batch file renamer for KDE. If you want to know more about its features please take a look on our (almost) complete feature list.
[07:58] <jrib> Cntryboy: nah, apt will get you the kdelibs
[07:58] <|SIcNESS|> can anyone help me, im getting while booting cd's ACPI not found, tough its enabled in bios, what can i do?
[07:58] <cisa> ah, i have to say that i'm using this installation on dapper on software-raid-0.
[07:58] <Cntryboy> apt-get install krename doesn't do anything
[07:58] <jrib> Cntryboy: you can run kde apps in gnome
[07:58] <ToHellWithGA> Bazzi: i need to run Sony's windows-only software actually.  i will be certain to get my other minidisc using friends on this bandwagon, however
[07:58] <NoUse> !tell Cntryboy about repos
[07:58] <Cntryboy> don't tell me about repos
[07:59] <Cntryboy> ive done damn shitty repos 100's of times
[07:59] <Cntryboy> ive downloaded new source.list and updated them
[07:59] <NoUse> Cntryboy obviously not correctly
[07:59] <Cntryboy> and still have to fux with repos
[07:59] <Bazzi> ToHellWithGA: how about wine?
[07:59] <jrib> Cntryboy: pastebin your current sources.list please
[07:59] <Cntryboy> i have 2.1KB i don't have 5 hours to update repos everytime I want something
[07:59] <gnomefreak> !laungauge > Cntryboy
[07:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about laungauge
[07:59] <Cntryboy> okay
[07:59] <Cntryboy> freak leave me alone please, im fustrated
[07:59] <gnomefreak> !language > Cntryboy
[07:59] <jenda> Evolution gives me "MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first j2sm77710ugf" when send/recieve is licked. what does that mean?
[07:59] <Cntryboy> i know about language also
[07:59] <NoUse> Cntryboy first of all, keep the language PG, second of all, don't get all upset, we are trying to help you
[08:00] <jenda> *CLICKED 
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: than stop using those words
[08:00] <Cntryboy> !language > gnomefreak
[08:00] <ToHellWithGA> sony's software relies on windows media which relies on IE and doesn't use normal GUI bits, so it's like trying to stacky doodoo too high for WINE
[08:00] <NoUse> is it a full moon or something?
[08:00] <robert_> how do I configure courier-webadmin
[08:01] <tiagoboldt> !xgl
[08:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:01] <s0nix> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16203
[08:02] <rixxon> !sphinx
[08:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about sphinx
[08:02] <rixxon> !sphinx2
[08:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about sphinx2
[08:02] <NoUse> !msgthebot
[08:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:02] <Jowi> !info sphinx2-bin
[08:02] <ubotu> sphinx2-bin: speech recognition utilities. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (dapper), package size 139 kB, installed size 480 kB
[08:03] <rixxon> Jowi: yea but i can't get it working
[08:03] <monkkey> hi, i have ubuntu running, which was fine, now it will boot and load the inital things, (scrolling up the screen and saying ok to everything) then the screen goes blank and then finanny returns to the kubuntu logo and status bar, and hangs... i have reconfigured xserver, this made no change. any suggestions?
[08:03] <Jowi> rixxon: i don't even have a proper microphone :)
[08:03] <rixxon> heh
[08:03] <Ademan> who's wondering about xgl?
[08:03] <Bazzi> ToHellWithGA: it may still be possible for wine, but requires some heavy hacking, about your d/l problem, cannot help you there atm though :/
[08:04] <rixxon> mine works in "sound recorder" anyway
[08:04] <filleokus> In Anjuta when im startinng a project it wants glib but i have installed glib 2 via apt do anyone know a chance to get glib via apt-get?
[08:04] <mgallant> any squid experts out there
[08:04] <ToHellWithGA> i have to go to school anyway.  i'll take a CDR and try to snag it there
[08:04] <ToHellWithGA> peace out kids
[08:04] <ToClassInGA> thanks Bazzi
[08:04] <Ademan> filleokus: i suggest you use KDevelop instead, i messed around with anjuta for about a week then tried KDE and i liked it WWAAAAAYYYYYYY more
[08:05] <dooglus> filleokus: "sudo apt-get install libglib1.2"
[08:05] <gigaclon> what packages do I need for svn?
[08:05] <s0nix> Ademan: did u tryed Code::Block?
[08:05] <robert_> !info courier-webadmin
[08:05] <ubotu> courier-webadmin: Courier Mail Server - Web-based administration frontend. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.47-13ubuntu5.1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 212 kB
[08:06] <dooglus> gigaclon: "subversion"
[08:06] <dooglus> !info subversion
[08:06] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In repository main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[08:06] <jrib> s0nix: hrmm those dapper packages weren't there when I got mine, I just used the generic .deb it says: FORMAT DPKG
[08:06] <robert_> hm
[08:06] <robert_> anybody here ever set up courier-webadmin before?
[08:06] <s0nix> i go check for this package
[08:06] <leenks> has anyone used PCMCIA MTD devices on dapper? I can't see anything in the wiki or google, and have never played around with this stuff before :o
[08:07] <Panzerboy> hello
[08:08] <Panzerboy> i am trying to install the sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-plugin packages
[08:08] <NoUse> Panzerboy what problems are you having?
[08:08] <Panzerboy> however, i get an error stating that: sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented
[08:09] <Panzerboy> and then some errors of dpkg
[08:09] <NoUse> Panzerboy is this in apt-get or synaptic?
[08:09] <Panzerboy> apt-get
[08:09] <Panzerboy> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[08:09] <Panzerboy>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[08:09] <Panzerboy> should i paste everything to pastebin ?
[08:09] <_chris__> anyone know how to get the nvidia x server settings?
[08:09] <Panzerboy> ubotu, sun
[08:09] <NoUse> Panzerboy no
[08:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about sun
[08:09] <Panzerboy> ubotu, java
[08:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:10] <_chris__> anyone know how to get the nvidia x server settings graphfical based :) ?
[08:10] <Panzerboy> NoUse: any idea what might be the problem?
[08:10] <NoUse> Panzerboy its a known but, it will install via synaptic, otherwise you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfiure debconf' and make sure its set to 'dialog'
[08:10] <Panzerboy> aaah, yeah, i see it now :)
[08:10] <NoUse> Panzerboy then apt-get will work
[08:10] <Panzerboy> in the wiki :P
[08:11] <Panzerboy> thanks a bunch :)
[08:11] <_chris__> anyone know how to get the nvidia x server settings graphfical based :) ? .. . NoUse?  Any ideas?
[08:11] <robert_> blah- has anybody here ever set up courier-webadmin before?
[08:11] <JeevesBond> Are you trying to get hardware acceleration working _chris__ ?
[08:12] <NoUse> _chris__ nvidia-settings
[08:12] <_chris__> yes jeevesbond and would like the settings in graphical based
[08:12] <erUSUL> _chris__:  apt-cache search nvidia
[08:12] <_chris__> ohh wow nouse thanks :)
[08:12] <s0nix> jrib: snd-intel8x0m is  important ? cause... i think this module is BLACKLISTED. in the file it said it can fuck snd-intel8x0
[08:12] <JeevesBond> But there are settings that need to be changed in xorg.conf though aren't there erUSUL?
[08:12] <filleokus> dooglus, i have allready installed that one :S
[08:13] <_chris__> and how do i enable the hardware accepleration?
[08:13] <NoUse> _chris__ if the nvidia drivers are working, it will be enabled
[08:13] <_chris__> oh ok thanks NoUse :)
[08:13] <jrib> s0nix: not sure
[08:13] <_chris__> thanks guys :)
[08:13] <lukaswayne9> Is there anyway that I can downlood a package and all of it's dependencies not in ubuntu-desktop?
[08:13] <JeevesBond> I enabled it through this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267 it's a guide for XGL but the bits about hardware acceleration are valid
[08:14] <krang> anyone here know how to preload firefox? Startup times on the older machines I have are unacceptable
[08:14] <_chris__> thanks askjeeves ha www.ask.com :P
[08:14] <vdepizzol> Did the shutdown dialog icons change according the theme selected?
[08:14] <ompaul> s0nix, lanuage - don't do use thanks we want a G rated channel
[08:14] <JeevesBond> Hehehe, he's rubbish compared to me ;)
[08:15] <_chris__> thanks a lot Jeevesbond, and nouse :)
[08:15] <JeevesBond> np's
[08:16] <Panzerboy> i have to try that xgl thingy, looks cool
[08:16] <s0nix> ompaul: very sorry. english is not my primary language
[08:17] <Panzerboy> but first i have to install and properly get to work the ati drivers
[08:17] <JeevesBond> I have xgl working on here, it's untold!
[08:17] <ompaul> s0nix, well cursing is not mine ;-)
[08:17] <_Spire_> !xgl
[08:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:17] <s0nix> jrib: same error with the DPKG FORMAT.
[08:17] <s0nix> np :)
[08:17] <ompaul> s0nix, what are you trying to install?
[08:18] <s0nix> my modem conexant on my laptop inspiron 9400
[08:18] <jrib> s0nix: you can probably email linuxant for support too.  Not really sure about those errors, all I did was made sure I had build-essential installed and then use dpkg
[08:19] <_chris__> how do i enable tv out? :P
[08:19] <s0nix> Ok, thx
[08:19] <_chris__> on a dell laptop with svideo out?
[08:19] <NoUse> _chris__ its an nvidia option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, google around for it
[08:19] <catchjosh> Ubuntu supports JFS in the installer, correct?
[08:20] <shaa-gi> catchjosh: yes
[08:20] <_chris__> NoUse ill google around it but theres a major concern i have with my laptop ..... and graphics card when i close my laptop lid it screws up my ubuntu... first it becomes black and then i have to then press fn crt/lcd then alt f something then f something again
[08:20] <_chris__> errr
[08:21] <erUSUL> !modem
[08:21] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:21] <catchjosh> Thanks.
[08:21] <_chris__> a problem occurs when i close laptop lid :|
[08:21] <catchjosh> Sooo.... there wouldn't happen to be any uber driver dev gurus here, would there?
[08:21] <_chris__> its annoying to have to do 4 steps to fix it
[08:21] <s0nix> erUSUL: thx, but i've already read this article
[08:22] <pally> howto uninstall a .bin file, after I execute the bin file to install?
[08:22] <_chris__> ive googled around found something and didn't work
[08:22] <NoUse> pally usually sudo sh ./file.bin
[08:22] <leenks> _chris__, : I have the same problem - except I usually have to reboot to fix it
[08:22] <_chris__> i edited a file
[08:22] <NET||abuse> hmm, i need a front end for setting up pptp connections... what's a good one?
[08:22] <_chris__> leenks u don't have to reboot silly... :P
[08:23] <JeevesBond> Did you restart X _chris__ ?
[08:23] <erUSUL> pally: check if the binary has an uninstall option if not you are out of luck
[08:23] <JeevesBond> That might have an effect
[08:23] <_chris__> no jeeves how do i do that?
[08:23] <pally> o :(
[08:23] <JeevesBond> ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:23] <nwonknu> hi ive downloaded ubuntu and im trying to install it however it boots up and seems like a live cd? have i downloaded the wrong one or is there something i should be doing?
[08:23] <_Spire_> nwonknu: double click the 'install' button
[08:23] <_chris__> ohh no i do like fn crt/lcd
[08:23] <JeevesBond> Make sure you've saved everything you want first! :)
[08:23] <_chris__> and then alt f8 or 7
[08:23] <_chris__> then brings up ternimal
[08:24] <_chris__> then ahhh f9
[08:24] <rashkae> Hi....If i have a ubuntu system that was setup with Lilo, how can I switch to GRUB?
[08:24] <_chris__> then screensavor popsup
[08:24] <rashkae>  (preferably, with all the files setup for me :) )
[08:24] <JeevesBond> So your tv out is working at this point?
[08:24] <_Spire_> !grub
[08:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[08:24] <_chris__> ohh i'm talking about something else jeeves :P
[08:24] <JeevesBond> Or is this just on the laptop screen?
[08:24] <_Spire_> rashkae: try the 'grub howto'
[08:25] <_chris__> im talking about closing mmy laptop lid for 1 min and screws up my ubuntu :P
[08:25] <JeevesBond> Heh, ok. This is your laptop lid closing problem again?
[08:25] <JeevesBond> Ah ok
[08:25] <_chris__> yah
[08:25] <krang> How would I set Firefox to load on login, minismised?
[08:25] <rabbitear> !upgadedaper
[08:25] <Jowi> _chris__: what happen if you connect the s-video cable, turn on the tv and reboot?
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about upgadedaper
[08:25] <rashkae> _Spire_,  damn, here I was hoping for a dpkg-reconfigure grub kind of solution :)
[08:25] <LPent> After upgrading breezy to dapper I now have a huge list under residual config in synaptics...can I safley remove these or must I check them one by one?
[08:25] <rabbitear> !daper
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about daper
[08:25] <_Spire_> !dapper
[08:25] <_chris__> ok Jowi :)
[08:25] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[08:25] <_chris__> hold on
[08:25] <rabbitear> !th
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about th
[08:25] <rabbitear> thx
[08:25] <rabbitear> !upgrade dapper
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about upgrade dapper
[08:25] <rabbitear> !upgradedapper
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about upgradedapper
[08:26] <gnomefreak> !upgrade > rabbitear
[08:26] <_Spire_> rashkae: I'm not sure about dpkg-reconfigure solutions
[08:26] <rabbitear> lol
[08:26] <gnomefreak> rabbitear: check your pm
[08:26] <rabbitear> !upgrade
[08:26] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades. Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison.
[08:26] <_Spire_> rashkae: I'll try
[08:26] <_chris__> need to find cable!
[08:26] <JeevesBond> So perhaps it has the laptop trying to go into standby when you close the lid?
[08:27] <_Spire_> rashkae: it doesn't seem to work.
[08:27] <_Spire_> rashkae: sorry :(
[08:27] <rabbitear> ty!
[08:27] <JeevesBond> And failing? I must say I have no idea, and am a bit of a noob myself ;)
[08:28] <LPent> anyone? can I safely remove residual configs or must I check them one by one?
[08:29] <_chris__> ok going to restart :)
[08:29] <JeevesBond> Hmmm, good luck chris
[08:29] <NET||abuse> i really need a pointer in the direction of what i can use to configure pptp connections..
[08:29] <JeevesBond> doubt it'll help though!
[08:29] <_chris__> thanks jeeves
[08:29] <NET||abuse> vpn'ing to offices
[08:29] <lukaswayne9> Is there an easy way to install packages and dependencies on an offline computer?
[08:29] <pc22> how do u update packages on text apt-get?
[08:29] <rabbitear> !upgrade
[08:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades. Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison.
[08:29] <rabbitear> thats wrong.. should be https!
[08:30] <lukaswayne9> what's the difference between http and https/
[08:30] <JeevesBond> https is secure
[08:30] <rabbitear> dillo doesn't change it...
[08:30] <rabbitear> 'dillo'
[08:30] <_Spire_> lukaswayne9: https is http secure
[08:30] <rabbitear> laters
[08:30] <rashkae> _Spire_, yeah, I figured that one out before asking :)... heh, oh well,
[08:31] <elephanthunter> I'm on the live CD right now trying to repartition my drive using GParted.
[08:31] <elephanthunter> But it's not letting me resize the root partition
[08:32] <elephanthunter> Apparently the partition is "in use" =/
[08:32] <elephanthunter> when I run "mount -l", I don't see the partition listed there
[08:32] <LPent> elephanthunter: are you using it on the same computer you are on now?
[08:32] <elephanthunter> Yes
[08:32] <pally> howto check if a .bin file has any options?
[08:33] <Azertyuuu> Mepis RC2 is released !
[08:33] <Azertyuuu> oops wrong channel
[08:33] <__chris___> no luck :(
[08:33] <swim> has anyone ever reformatted an ipod completely on linux?
[08:33] <elephanthunter> LPent: Yeah, I'm using the same computer. Why do you ask?
[08:33] <LPent> elephanthunter: then obviously / is in use. You should use the live CD to boot from so you don't use your harddrive. That way you can resize your partition
[08:33] <__chris___> didn't seem to work jeeves
[08:34] <elephanthunter> LPent: how do I go about that?
[08:35] <LPent> elephanthunter: pop the CD in your tray, reboot and make sure you boot from the CD (by pressing F10 or F1 or something like that depending on your computer. The rest will be selfexplanatory
[08:36] <elephanthunter> Oh, lol... I'm running on the same computer via the live CD right now.
[08:36] <LPent> elephanthunter: ah oky...my mistake
[08:36] <Steve^> what's my IP address?
[08:36] <LPent> elephanthunter: I usually use the gparted live CD, much faster anyway
[08:36] <number_six> hi all
[08:37] <Azertyuuu> www.whatismyip.com
[08:37] <_Spire_> or ipconfig
[08:37] <number_six> Is anybody have linux/mac networking skills?
[08:37] <LadyNikon> number_six: what are you trying to do
[08:38] <Snowfairy> Can anyone help me troubleshoot why this program isn't compiling?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205 is the error ./configure dies on.  I do seem to have all the proper packages installed, but, don't know how to manually query them for version and such.
[08:38] <Steve^> Azertyuuu, those websites tend to give differing results, thanks to my proxy
[08:38] <number_six> makin shares for mac clients
[08:38] <Steve^> _Spire_, isn't that a windows command?
[08:38] <Azertyuuu> hey all, there is nobody in the Mepisroom, so I ask my question here, please don't be mad: will it be possible to  upgrade from RC2 to Mepis final within a week without formatting  ?
[08:38] <elephanthunter> ifconfig, plus it only shows you the local ip address xD
[08:38] <rpedro_> lukaswayne9: use apt-move
[08:38] <LadyNikon> number_six: there is a share section
[08:38] <lukaswayne9> rpedro thanks
[08:39] <Flannel> Azertyuuu: huh?  how would we know?
[08:39] <number_six> LadyNikon, ?
[08:39] <ddrj> hey guys, i don't get this, i burned ubuntu onto a cd rom and i restart the pc, i hit f12 for boot options ( i have dell) and it shows cd-rom, hard disk, and usb hard disk (my external hard drive)... well i booted from cd rom and it is sooooo slow.. especially when i try to install it to my hard drive from boot disk, so i decided to extract the contents onto my external hard drive and reboot, but it doesn't load ubuntu! my question i
[08:39] <Flannel> Azertyuuu: you might try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, they might know
[08:39] <LadyNikon> number_six: what OS on your mac?
[08:39] <elephanthunter> Could somebody walk me through unmounting this partition from the Live CD so that I can resize it?
[08:39] <xordan> Hi, how do I stop a module from being loaded on startup? Can I blacklist it somehow?
[08:40] <LadyNikon> ddrj: is the disk bootable?
[08:40] <ddrj> yeah
[08:40] <number_six> OSX on the clients and i want to make a linux file/web server
[08:40] <LadyNikon> oh i dunno how to do that one
[08:40] <lonegeek> does anyone know of bootable cds which will allow me to back up data to a windows network pc.....i tried trinity rescue disk..but it doesnt see either of my 2 hard drives..one being ntfs and one being linux....
[08:41] <LadyNikon> ddrj: you should be able to just put the disk in.. select boot from disk
[08:41] <LadyNikon> and ubuntu loads up
[08:41] <ddrj> well, i mean it should be bootable right LadyNikon? i mean it has the exact copy of the cd on there (extracted contents) i mean
[08:41] <number_six> I dont no what protocoll must i use. Wich type fitt for the macs. smb or nfs?
[08:41] <LadyNikon> nfs is windows
[08:42] <scompalp> I need a little help about terminal, can someone help??
[08:42] <elephanthunter> I thought ntfs was windows =/
[08:42] <number_six> no nfs is unix :)
[08:42] <Flannel> elephanthunter: ntfs != nfs
[08:42] <ddrj> well the thing is LadyNikon, my ubuntu cd loads fine, but it is extremely SLOW especially when it tries to install linux, why is this? is my cd rom slow? (it's only a year old)
[08:42] <xordan> Urr, can anyone help me?
[08:42] <number_six> ntfs is windows but its a partition type
[08:42] <scompalp> I edited Default profile! I added some command to exit terminal when I enter it! I need help!!!
[08:43] <matthew_w> Hey, how do I mount a usb disk?
[08:43] <ddrj> how do i make my external hard drive bootable?
[08:43] <Snowfairy> Can anyone help me troubleshoot why this program isn't compiling?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205 is the error ./configure dies on.  I do seem to have all the proper packages installed, but, don't know how to manually query them for version and such.
[08:43] <jenda> Evolution gives me "MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first j2sm77710ugf" when send/recieve is clicked. what does that mean?
[08:43] <matthew_w> If It doesn't happen automatically, how do I mount it.
[08:43] <Chri[s] _> how can i remove X all together?
[08:44] <Hoxzer> why would u do it?
[08:44] <Flannel> Chri[s] _: you'll need to use deborphan or similar programs, to remove all the components
[08:44] <zombieReagan> matthew_w buy it flowers, take it to dinner, ask nicely
[08:44] <matthew_w> zombieReagan, seriously, where is it in /dev/
[08:44] <number_six> matthew_w,  sudo mount /media/sdxx where  sdaxx is your usb drive, but you must see in the Places>removable media
[08:45] <zombieReagan> lol i dunno, i just saw the word 'mount' and had to make that joke
[08:45] <zombieReagan> it's in my contract
[08:45] <zombieReagan> i get a big raise if anyone actually laughs
[08:45] <Jowi> matthew_w: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbstick (or similar)
[08:45] <LPent> elephanthunter: you still looking for an answer? I googled your problem and found a lot of people with the same issue... I would still recommend using the gparted Live CD
[08:45] <matthew_w> Jowi; specify filesystem type
[08:45] <elephanthunter> Arr... just need a blank CD now :P
[08:45] <Jowi> matthew_w: -t vfat
[08:46] <lonegeek> anyone use trinity rescue kit
[08:46] <elephanthunter> Thanks LPent, I'll give it a shot.
[08:46] <matthew_w> Thanks !
[08:47] <bina> Hi all, I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16207 that error whenever I try to compile something that uses GTK libraries.  Is there some way I can reinstall the libraries to correct this problem?
[08:47] <bina> I tried uninstalling cairo libraries but it tried to get rid of a load of other apps
[08:48] <lonegeek> can i force a mount of ntfs hard drive in linux...... i know the data is there...but the ntfs drive is somewhat corrupt......i can browse it with a tool on UBCD
[08:48] <rexxx> Hello i have just installed ubuntu to my hard drive. unfortunly i have ran into a few problems. when booting the live cd i was able to turn up the res from vesa so that my flat screen could see it. is there anyway to do that using grub?
[08:48] <scompalp> Where are located gnome-terminal profiles? PLEASE!!
[08:48] <_mali_> all: do u know som respositories of e17 for dapper?
[08:48] <Flannel> !tell lonegeek about ntfs
[08:49] <Flannel> lonegeek: did you read that page?
[08:49] <tr1gg3r> rexxx: u can change the res of x, not in grub
[08:49] <ddrj> is there a way to install ubuntu from an external hard drive?
[08:49] <NET||abuse> is there something like NetworkManager-vpnc (i have heard of it for Fedora) for ubuntu's NetworkManager ?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> _mali_: there are no good ones i suggest building it from cvs its easy if you follow directions and its loaded
[08:49] <mzuverink> _mali_, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D20216&ei=gJOZRJ-rK5b2owL5uI3RAw&sig2=teJ7t6v_bX_EiXOArvFYFw
[08:49] <Snowfairy> Can anyone help me troubleshoot why this program isn't compiling?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205 is the error ./configure dies on.  I do seem to have all the proper packages installed, but, don't know how to manually query them for version and such.
[08:49] <lonegeek> Flannel: i know how to do that...i screwed up ntfs partiton when resizing it..and now i can cannot access it in linux..or boot windows...but i can browse data with some tool on ubcd
[08:49] <scompalp> I REALY NEED HELP!! Where are located gnome-terminal profiles?!
[08:50] <Cntryboy> Sorry room for my bad attitude :)
[08:50] <LPent> does anyone know if you can safely remove the residual configs in synaptics after upgrading from breezy to dapper? Please?
[08:50] <ddrj> is there a way to install ubuntu from an external hard drive instead of booting it up from a cd?
[08:50] <rexxx> tr1gg3r my vidcard isnt supported by default. i need to install fglrx and chang the xorg.conf but how can i do that if i cant view the screen?
[08:50] <_mali_> gnomefreak, mzuverink: thanks
[08:50] <joker_> hello
[08:51] <tr1gg3r> rexxx: u should be able to boot into txt mode without and perform all of the ops u need to
[08:51] <Flannel> ddrj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:51] <gnomefreak> scompalp: /home/username/.something cant remember i think its bashprofiles
[08:51] <ddrj> Flannel: thanks, checking
[08:51] <lonegeek> When trying to mount i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[08:51] <Flannel> ddrj: depeds on your setup for specifics, but in a word: yes.
[08:51] <mzuverink> is there a way to edit the gnome medue to show only gnome packages and vise versa with kde?  when attempting to do so using ala carte in gnome it made the kde apps that I chose not to show not appear in kde at all(not even when using kmenuedit)?
[08:52] <rexxx> tr1gg3r when it starts booting my monitor gives me an out of range. ill let it go for a bit and see if when it fails if i get vid back.
[08:52] <tr1gg3r> Snowfairy: dpkg -L pkg_name will show u the installed version, but keep in mind u need the -dev version of those pkgs to compile things
[08:52] <ddrj> Flannel: well let me see, i'm trying to find a way on skipping the cd rom in any way, i have the ubuntu iso, and i'm hoping that i can just extract the contents to my external hard drive and boot from there
[08:53] <_Spire_> ddrj: it would then just start the cd when you boot, except from the hd
[08:53] <kebertxela> How can I make the fonts render better ?
[08:53] <Flannel> ddrj: yep, there's a few, boot from firewire hd is on that page, you can even boot from windows, etc.  oh, these are all "advanced installation methods"
[08:53] <ddrj> _Spire_: i did that, but the problem is, that it doesn't load! and i don't understand why it boots from cd but not my external hard drive :(
[08:53] <joker_> ;!dd
[08:54] <el> hoa
[08:54] <el> ola
[08:54] <el> soy jhereson
[08:54] <tr1gg3r> rexxx: iirc grub displays in 640x480, ive never seen that issue where a monitor wont display grub
[08:54] <ddrj> ohh hmm.. i think this grub installation might do the trick guys!
[08:54] <_Spire_> ddrj: I don't know why it does that, but it *was* made to boot from a cd, not an hd
[08:54] <el> hello mi name is JHERSON
[08:54] <ddrj> _Spire_: haha true :)
[08:55] <el> tenkiun
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <MrGreen> errr like wher can I find out how to install flash?
[08:55] <el> hay alguien ay
[08:55] <MrGreen> !flash
[08:55] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:55] <_Spire_> !tell MrGreen about flash
[08:55] <el> ola
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[08:55] <el> ola
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[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <LoRez> Warning: `el' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[08:55] <MrGreen> ta!
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <_Spire_> could someone please kick him
[08:55] <jrib> !ops
[08:55] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:55] <el> ola
[08:56] <el> oa
[08:56] <el> ola
[08:56] <el> ola
[08:56] <tr1gg3r> apokryphos: thx :)
[08:56] <Ushanka> holy moly 843 people with no admins? Is this typical?
[08:56] <Ushanka> oh
[08:56] <Ushanka> wait
[08:56] <Ushanka> one admin
[08:57] <ffub> hello, I am new to ubuntu, I am wondering if anyone knows of a vmware image for dapper drake?
[08:57] <crimsun> Ushanka: the ops generally don't keep themselves opped.
[08:57] <apokryphos> Ushanka: many admins, just not all active
[08:57] <apokryphos> hm, ban didn't work because of the kick just before :P
[08:57] <ffub> does anyone know of a dapper drake image for vmware?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> sorry was doing bug patrol
[08:58] <ffub> I want to run dapper drake under xp in vmware
[08:58] <_Spire_> ffub: try googling it. I know they're out there
[08:58] <ffub> I havent foudn any
[08:58] <mrmucha> whats the command to extract .tgz?
[08:58] <ffub> i have found instructions for how to make them
[08:58] <ffub> but that is way beyond me
[08:58] <png> mrmucha, gunzip
[08:59] <compengi> any one knows how can i retain my group list deleted form gaim accidently?
[08:59] <mrmucha> png, then i get a .tar
[08:59] <_Spire_> ffub: I think there might be one on the VMWare Player site - I remember one from a few weeks ago
[08:59] <png> tar -xvf bla.tar
[09:00] <ffub> hmm, i just got randomly kicked out of here
[09:00] <v3rt3x> when I log in via gdm, it takes a VERY long time for gnome to start. anyone seen this?
[09:00] <ffub> ill keep looking on there spire
[09:00] <compengi> any one knows how can i retain my group list deleted form gaim accidently?
[09:01] <MrGreen> ;-) apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree does not work
[09:01] <Ushanka> so, anyway
[09:01] <Flawless> how can I make ubuntu use iso8859-1 instead of UTF-8?
[09:01] <RadiantFire> MrGreen: they fixed i think
[09:01] <MrGreen> ahh ok
[09:01] <Ushanka> I'm installing Ubuntu on a computer right next to me, and I don't know how to connect it to the network I'm on
[09:02] <MrGreen> followed wiki
[09:02] <MrGreen> but will not install
[09:02] <MrGreen> guess I will wait till its fixed
[09:02] <MrGreen> np
[09:03] <ffub> dapper drake is 6.0.6 right?
[09:03] <gigaclon> no
[09:03] <Flannel> ffub: no, 6.06
[09:03] <gigaclon> 6.06
[09:03] <ffub> yeah
[09:03] <ffub> i meant that
[09:03] <Cntryboy> apokryphos did you get my pm earlier?
[09:03] <apokryphos> Cntryboy: nope
[09:03] <sameer> hi
[09:03] <matthew_w> Hey, now it's saying "special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"
[09:03] <Cntryboy> oh okay
[09:03] <apokryphos> Cntryboy: perhaps you were unregistered
[09:04] <sameer> can some one pls help me with my wireless usb wl-167
[09:04] <ffub> I've found the server version of the image
[09:04] <Cntryboy> prob
[09:04] <ddrj> hey guys, what does it mean to APPEND c:\grldr="Install Ubuntu" to C:\boot.ini? does it mean that i just add that line to boot.ini at the bottom?
[09:04] <gigaclon> has anyone gotten Azureus to work under Dapper?
[09:04] <Flawless> anyone? switching codepages?
[09:04] <sameer> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[09:04] <sameer> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[09:04] <sameer> can one pls ?
[09:05] <popey> Why is it that xchat now shows prv messages inline in channel rather than opening up a new tab? I keep missing peoples messages as a result..
[09:05] <dakira> Any Opera users here?
[09:05] <ffub> yeah
[09:05] <popey> ..and how do i turn it off :)
[09:05] <ffub> dakira, i use opera
[09:05] <xKintaro> Note: I still think Ubuntu is a turd.
[09:05] <dakira> ffub: have you updated to 9, yet?
[09:05] <ffub> yeah
[09:05] <gigaclon> did you try prefrences?
[09:05] <SurfnKid> 
[09:05] <xKintaro> I hope Linus Torvalds punches you idiots in the mouth.
[09:05] <ffub> i've been using nine a while
[09:05] <SurfnKid> Linus!
[09:05] <xKintaro> It ruins everything Linux had going for it.
[09:06] <dakira> ffub: do you have the same problem that since 9 all the fonts are soo small?
[09:06] <matthew_w> Help guys
[09:06] <ffub> no
[09:06] <SurfnKid> how exactly does mc work?
[09:06] <matthew_w> I'm trying to mount my usbdisk and...
[09:06] <ffub> i have nto had that probelm
[09:06] <matthew_w> I'm getting special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[09:06] <xKintaro> Linux used to be for eliteist people like me, then you fuckwits came along.
[09:06] <ddrj> xKintaro: well.. why do you say that?
[09:06] <dakira> ffub: mhh.. that's bad.. on alot (not all) websites the fonts are extremely small
[09:06] <RadiantFire> gasp!
[09:06] <klm-> whats' the best videoediting tool on ubuntu for basic cutting and pasting?
[09:06] <RadiantFire> lol
[09:06] <SurfnKid> if anyone knows how to remotely log in to a box so i can have both screens come up
[09:06] <apokryphos> Cntryboy: krename is in the repositories
[09:06] <popey> !op
[09:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about op
[09:06] <xKintaro> I don't mind walmart dipshits with lindows, but you Ubuntu users are all so fucking smug
[09:06] <Intangir> has anyone noticed on the newest ubuntu , how when you rename a file, the little rename edit box isnt covering the old name properly
[09:06] <Intangir> its off to the right some
[09:06] <erUSUL> !ops
[09:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[09:06] <ffub> in opera, you can edit the user style css
[09:06] <xKintaro> Half the packages are out of date in apt, constantly
[09:06] <sameer> !ops
[09:06] <xKintaro> You make me sick
[09:07] <Amaranth> erUSUL: ?
[09:07] <Amaranth> oh
[09:07] <Cntryboy> I got krename to work, I was typing krenamer instead
[09:07] <nalioth> Amaranth: i got it
[09:07] <ffub> try editing that to override the fonts on websites, that may do the trick dakira
[09:07] <Cntryboy> its downloading now, but says 4 hours left lol
[09:07] <dakira> ffub: i know.. but the sites should look right out-of-the-box.. as they did in 8.5x and as they still do in 9 for windows
[09:07] <erUSUL> Amaranth: xKintaro?
[09:07] <Amaranth> already done
[09:07] <sameer> can some one pls help with wl-167g
[09:07] <erUSUL> Amaranth: thanks...
[09:07] <NET||abuse> can someone help me, i need to configure my vpn connection.
[09:08] <ffub> that is true
[09:08] <ffub> yeah they do look fine in windows as well
[09:08] <madar> hello looking for help with a prism2_usb device, this wlan module has worked with other distros but I'm new to ubuntu and having no luck getting it to work
[09:08] <ffub> for me
[09:08] <nalioth> !wireless > madar
[09:08] <ffub> dakira: perhaps there is a running bug about it, i would inquire with the opera people
[09:08] <matthew_w> Guys, what could be causing that error?
[09:09] <NET||abuse> there doesn't seem to be any pptpconfig available on the debs
[09:09] <dakira> ffub: mhh.. i'll kill all my files and will do a complete reinstall.. maybe that will help
[09:09] <popey> Why is it that xchat now shows prv messages inline in channel rather than opening up a new tab? I keep missing peoples messages as a result and how do i turn it off?
[09:09] <NET||abuse> where might i get my hands on it?
[09:09] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak you around?
[09:09] <ffub> Dakira: that sounds like a good idea
[09:09] <madar> !wireless
[09:09] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[09:09] <rbgCODE> Does anyone know if ubuntu supports dual processors?
[09:09] <dakira> ffub: if they above doesn't help I'll use my premium support to get some help ;)
[09:09] <ffub> ncie
[09:09] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:09] <NET||abuse> rbgCODE, cmp
[09:09] <NET||abuse> rbgCODE, uhh, i mean smp
[09:09] <pc22> how do i identify my nick with my passowrd? whats the command?
[09:09] <Cntryboy> did you get my msg I sent b4 ban was unlifted?
[09:09] <rbgCODE> NET||abuse what do you mean
[09:10] <Administrator_> pc22, /ns identify password
[09:10] <lufis> Is Ubuntu's eye of gnome any different than the official?
[09:10] <Cntryboy> howdy rbgCODE :)
[09:10] <NET||abuse> rbgCODE, you nead to run on the smp kernel
[09:10] <NET||abuse> !smp
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp
[09:10] <rbgCODE> How would I do that
[09:10] <NET||abuse> :P doh
[09:10] <madar> yeah I've looked through this documentation online and I see that "some prism devices are supported out of the box"
[09:10] <ffub> hmm. i am nto finding a vmware image for dapper drake
[09:10] <compengi> any one knows how can i retain my group list deleted form gaim accidently?
[09:10] <madar> but I don't see much on what can be done when they aren't supported "out of the box" :)
[09:11] <Administrator_> madar, ndiswrapper
[09:11] <Mandalf> Hello all
[09:11] <NET||abuse> hmm, ok... pptpconfig, anyone know there's a package availble in a deb somewhere?
[09:11] <catchjosh> Can you ban based on a MAC address, or only IP?
[09:11] <pc22> what about this : /msg Nickserv IDENTITY <your-password>
[09:11] <Cntryboy> I didn't realize that krename was so big
[09:11] <madar> my device has worked under wlan-ng in the past
[09:11] <Mandalf> I have install ubuntu desktop Swedish
[09:12] <madar> and I've never had much success with ndiswrapper for it
[09:12] <nalioth> pc22: use 'identify'
[09:12] <hid3> Is there any memory testing program which puts heavy stress on ram while machine is running?
[09:12] <pc22> thanks nalioth
[09:12] <ompaul> pc22, identifying yourself to the network via nickserv " identify"  is the spelling of it ;-)
[09:12] <gnomefreak> hid3: boot the memtest option?
[09:12] <nalioth> hid3: you can choose the memtest at the grub prompt
[09:12] <eri1> i have a sony vaio pcg-k17 (IGP345 video card), dapper drake is installed and working fine.  if i let it sit for awhile and come back it's hung (whole pc, cursor doesn't blink, ctrl_alt_backspace doesn't exit gnome).  soemtimes it will hang as i'm working. any ideas on boot settings that might dumb down video accelleration?  I'm guessing maybe something going on there so wanted to rule that out. other ideas?
[09:12] <LjL> hid3: *while* the machine is running, if by that you mean "while the OS is loaded", is hard. the OS allocates some of the memory.
[09:13] <hid3> gnomefreak: that requires to boot a separate image, I need something inside the os
[09:13] <LjL> a lot of it actually
[09:13] <Mandalf> Can somone help me?
[09:13] <eri1> hid3 -- boot ubuntu 6.06 LTS, there is a memtest option
[09:13] <_Spire_> Mandalf: yup
[09:13] <gnomefreak> hid3: there might be but i use memtest thats all i know about try apt-cache search memory
[09:13] <jnoon> is there an unstable repo i can add to sources.list to possbily find postfix >= 2.3
[09:13] <chris12349> hey does anyone know a way to password protect a folder in nautilus without creating an encrypted partition?
[09:14] <hid3> thanks
[09:14] <ompaul> Mandalf, someone left 10 minutes ago if you ask your question the people in the channel may answer ;-)
[09:14] <gnomefreak> jnoon: nope
[09:14] <ffub> does anyoen know of a 6.06 vmware image? Or is anyone willing to make one?
[09:14] <LjL> hid3: in any case i can see "stress" and "memtester"
[09:14] <gnomefreak> !vmware
[09:14] <ubotu> VMWare player is in the Ubuntu repositories. Install instructions for VMWare server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[09:14] <LjL> hid3: i'm sure memtest is way more reliable, though
[09:14] <gnomefreak> ffub: ^^^
[09:14] <hid3> will try it
[09:14] <Mandalf> _Spire_: I have instaled Ubuntu swedish desktop
[09:14] <ffub> Gnomefreak: what?
[09:14] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak I guess you didn't
[09:15] <gnomefreak> !vmware > ffub
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ffub: read your pm
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: didnt what?
[09:15] <SurfnKid> can someone give me a quick hint to use 'mc'
[09:15] <Mandalf> _Spire_: I dont have a alternative to chose username
[09:15] <ffub> ah
[09:15] <ffub> soory
[09:15] <ffub> i did not see that
[09:15] <Cntryboy> get the pm I sent u before my ban was unlifted?
[09:15] <SurfnKid> trying to connect remotely to another box
[09:15] <Mandalf> _Spire_: ulny password
[09:15] <Flawless> Can anybody help me change locale?
[09:15] <gnomefreak> i lifted it yes i got it
[09:15] <_Spire_> Mandalf: erm... so you want to make a new user?
[09:15] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:15] <eri1> anyone have any ideas on ubuntu hanging up? i have a sony vaio pcg-k17 (IGP345 video card), dapper drake is installed and working fine.  if i let it sit for awhile and come back it's hung (whole pc, cursor doesn't blink, ctrl_alt_backspace doesn't exit gnome).  soemtimes it will hang as i'm working. any ideas on boot settings that might dumb down video accelleration?  I'm guessing maybe something going on there so wanted to rule that 
[09:15] <dylan_> Why does Ubuntu advertise the operating system as being completely free and open source when it includes restricted drivers in the default installation?
[09:15] <Flawless> In 5.10, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" worked. Now it doesn't ask what locale I want
[09:15] <nalioth> Cntryboy: if you preface your sentence to the user you are talking to, you'll more than likely get an answer
[09:16] <SurfnKid> eri1: i know things hang. but not hang up :P
[09:16] <keithhhhh> does anyone know how to install a hauppage usb2.0 ??
[09:16] <Mandalf> _Spire_: I can start up the system and get to a login. Huw to login? I have no username
[09:16] <Cntryboy> yah, by the time I finish talking blocks of scroll goes swinging by and I'm trying to keep up with this slow dialup lol
[09:16] <_Spire_> Mandalf: didn't you set up a user during the install?
[09:16] <Mandalf> _Spire_: nope
[09:16] <eri1> surfnkid: haha... right you are.   how do i control the video accelleration settings?
[09:17] <LjL> dylan_: good question, but perhaps it's more like a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <SurfnKid> mmmm
[09:17] <_Spire_> Mandalf: hmm... I thought that was required
[09:17] <dylan_> LjL, I will go there.
[09:17] <SurfnKid> does the scren saver run maybe? and it hangs.
[09:17] <erUSUL> eri1: i think that is something about suspend maybe dapper tries to suspend but it hangs doing (you know linux does not shine when it comes to suspend laptops)
[09:18] <Mandalf> _Spire_: I have done the instal 2 times and it do not give me a alternative to chose one
[09:18] <Mandalf> olny password
[09:18] <eri1> surfnkid: i thought that also but it also happens as I'm typing or moving the mouse (synaptic touchpad and usb trackball)
[09:18] <_Spire_> Mandalf: weird
[09:18] <Tommy2k4> is msn down for anyone else?
[09:18] <Shan1> Yeah, me too.
[09:18] <Shan1> Everyone I know using Giam.
[09:18] <Flawless> .. seriously, can you read this? :)
[09:18] <Shan1> *Gaim
[09:18] <SurfnKid> eri1: not sure whats happening :/ sorry
[09:18] <Mandalf> Tommy2k4: no
[09:18] <erUSUL> eri1: does any error show up in the logs?
[09:18] <nalioth> Flawless: read what?
[09:18] <_Spire_> Mandalf: anyways, reboot and choose "recovery mode". when you come to a command prompt, type 'adduser' and fill out the details. then reboot and login
[09:18] <keithhhhh> Gaim rules
[09:18] <Flawless> nalioth: thanks :)
[09:19] <Mandalf> _Spire_: I testing it
[09:19] <Flawless> nalioth: it's just that a relatively simple question hasn't been regarded at all, by anyone out of 850 people :(
[09:19] <Cntryboy> if gaim had voice support it would be better.. someone said something about gaim-vv but its not supported now so I dunno
[09:19] <ompaul> dylan_, that item was discussed on the  sounder mailing list recently, subject: Ubuntu tainting the kernel with proprietary drivers ?
[09:19] <Shan1> Tommy2k4: Everyone's contacts have signed off for everyone I know using Gaim.
[09:19] <Shan1> Tomy2k4: You can still talk to them, they just appear offline.
[09:20] <dylan_> ompaul, thank you ... i will look at that
[09:20] <DjPete> hi - I need some help installing
[09:20] <DjPete> Ubuntu v6.06
[09:20] <_Spire_> DjPete: be glad to help
[09:20] <eri1> erUSUL: this is the only odd thing I see in the syslog: Jun 21 14:06:46 localhost kernel: [17179590.308000]  8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2 (Mar 22, 2004)
[09:20] <eri1> Jun 21 14:06:46 localhost kernel: [17179590.332000]  **** SET: Misaligned resource pointer: f2355c02 Type 07 Len 0
[09:20] <DjPete> thanks
[09:21] <ffub> how long do the shipits take to travel on average?
[09:21] <DjPete> I'm getting buffer I/O errors
[09:21] <DjPete> on device dm-8
[09:21] <jenda> What's the reason to use evolution over thunderbird?
[09:21] <Cntryboy> anyone know why aim servers won't allow u type ppl thats offline a msg so they can see it the next time they log on like yahoo?
[09:21] <tefera> How do we get a wiki page for our translation team?
[09:21] <Hoxzer_> ANd she is buying the stairway to heaven
[09:21] <Hoxzer_> there is a sign on the wall
[09:21] <Hoxzer_> but she wants to be sure
[09:21] <Hoxzer_> cos she knows sometimes WOORDS have twoo meanings
[09:21] <_Spire_> DjPete: could you post one of the errors? if it's longer than 2 lines, go to pastebin
[09:21] <Cntryboy> hoxzer u must like that song huh
[09:22] <Cntryboy> I wore that song out years ago when I used to play electric guitar to it
[09:22] <Hoxzer_> Cntryboy: led zeppelin - stairway to heaven ;)
[09:22] <Cntryboy> yes I know who it was :)
[09:22] <Hoxzer_> Cntryboy: cannot be not liking it ;)
[09:22] <Cntryboy> or is rather
[09:22] <Cntryboy> I like it
[09:22] <DjPete> ok, I will get one now
[09:22] <DjPete> it's one my desktop PC
[09:22] <Cntryboy> just wore it out because i've heard it so much lol
[09:23] <DjPete> ... "Buffer I/O error on device dm-8, logical block 3155306"
[09:23] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:23] <DjPete> for example, LBA keeps increasing
[09:23] <DjPete> oh - it just went to the next steps
[09:23] <NET||abuse> hm, i need pptpconfig,,, i've found something about using http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptpconfig/,,, but there's no dist info available
[09:24] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I just tried to get g77 with "apt-get install g77" but I get these errors when I try: http://rafb.net/paste/results/yF1MxU29.html Is this a problem on my end or on the Ubuntu repositories?
[09:24] <affan> Hi all, how do I mount my USB camera in Xubuntu? I know is Gnome it mounts automagically... wat is the dev name for the usb drive? i can see the camera in "lsusb"
[09:24] <_Spire_> affan: it's probably '/dev/sda'
[09:25] <dsforsaken> hi
[09:25] <affan> _Spire_: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:30c1 Canon, Inc. <--- this is wat i get from lsusb
[09:26] <dsforsaken> i just installed ubunntu and i get grub error 17, /boot is on /dev/sda1, swap on /dev/sda2 and root is /dev/sda4, this harddisk is on a promise raid fasttrack controller, does anyone know how to fix this error 17 grub gives me?
[09:26] <_Spire_> affan: try mounting /dev/sda (or /dev/sdb if you have another external hd)
[09:26] <affan> _Spire_: i dont have anything in /dev/sd*
[09:26] <_Spire_> affan: hmm... I've gotta go. try asking around some more :(
[09:26] <affan> thanks _Spire_
[09:26] <cinnix> hello people :) can someone please spend time to walk me through ubuntu installation? my windows crashed so i thought i would reinstall ubuntu permanantly, but this version wont load up properly.
[09:27] <affan> cinnix: wat exactly did you do? wats your computer like?
[09:27] <affan> cinnix: all you have to do is download a Ubuntu CD, burn it and reboot your computer using the CD
[09:28] <affan> after that its very easy... just follow the screen
[09:28] <darkyoshi372> I seem to have ruined my 3d acceleration on my Radeon 9600. I set up fglrx according to the wiki, and there wan no 3d any more. Upon returning to the stock driver, 3d still didn't come back! What do I do?
[09:28] <Cntryboy> cinnix after you do what affan said it should boot up the live cd, and from there you can choose to install it.
[09:28] <franky123> hey, i'm trying to compile something that needs "fmodsound" and i downloaded the lib and the inc files and i installed them and then it compiled fine, but at the end it can't link because ld -lfmod cant find the fmod library ... how do i fix this?
[09:28] <dsforsaken> i need some help, is it possible to mount harddrives from within the live cd? it always says cannot execute pmount
[09:28] <cinnix> i have an amd athlon64 2000+, 256mb ddr ram, 40 gig ide darhdrive split on 3 ntfs partitions, and would like to install on partion "e"
[09:29] <JeevesBond> darkyoshi372 do you need to get your xorg.conf file back to how it was?
[09:29] <darkyoshi372> Uh, I guess I do, I just want 3D back
[09:29] <dylan_> Does anybody know where I can contact the Ubuntu developers?
[09:29] <cinnix> i was fine with breezy badger, made it run in no time
[09:29] <DjPete> spire: hmmm... I'm not sure dm-8 even really exists on my pc... does it refer to a disk or something else?
[09:29] <A[D] minS> !webmin
[09:29] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[09:29] <affan> cinnix: dapper shouldnt be any different.. did you try and install it? wat problems were there?
[09:30] <A[D] minS> so whats better than webmin ?
[09:30] <JeevesBond> You could try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:30] <A[D] minS> !info webmin
[09:30] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in dapper
[09:30] <darkyoshi372> JeevesBond: Okay, I'll try that
[09:30] <A[D] minS> Yvonne:
[09:30] <affan> !usb
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[09:30] <affan> !camera
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about camera
[09:30] <A[D] minS> lol
[09:30] <Cntryboy> if I close terminal where I was apt-get install krename, will it pick up where it left off the next time I apt-get install krename?
[09:30] <JeevesBond> !life
[09:30] <cinnix> hold on i will boot from cd now and tell you
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[09:30] <affan> :D
[09:30] <A[D] minS> ubotu: what do i know :)
[09:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about what do i know :)
[09:30] <din> !women
[09:30] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[09:30] <Cntryboy> it's taking way tooo long
[09:30] <A[D] minS> ops do u *
[09:30] <din> lol
[09:30] <affan> haahaha
[09:31] <JeevesBond> LOL
[09:31] <Cntryboy> 31% [8 kdelibs4c2a 2035888/8334kB 24%]                           223B/s 18h4m54s
[09:31] <someothernick> O.o
[09:31] <JeevesBond> !beer
[09:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about beer
[09:31] <dsforsaken> i just installed ubunntu and i get grub error 17, /boot is on /dev/sda1, swap on /dev/sda2 and root is /dev/sda4, this harddisk is on a promise raid fasttrack controller, does anyone know how to fix this error 17 grub gives me?
[09:31] <affan> !girls
[09:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about girls
[09:31] <JeevesBond> Ok, ok. Sorry. I'll stop that right now
[09:31] <Frem> !anything
[09:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[09:31] <affan> !man
[09:31] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[09:32] <affan> !ubotu
[09:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:32] <franky123> i need help using ld. say i have a shared object asdf.so and i make a link in /usr/lib and then i want to link something using that. so i do ld -lasdf but it doesnt work. how are you supposed to do it?
[09:32] <ffub> HI ubotu
[09:32] <sexcopter8000m> dsforsaken, have you looked at the /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[09:33] <nocturn> Hi guys
[09:33] <darkyoshi372> JeevesBond: I tried it, and logged out with init 1, but upon logging in, Neverball still didn't go at a proper framerate!
[09:33] <ffub> !ubuntu
[09:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:33] <nocturn> Does anyone know if a Canon multipass MPC200 works on Ubuntu?
[09:33] <cinnix> decrompressing linux....done. booting the kernel. [  31.978380]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 5 of device 0000:00:01.1
[09:34] <Administrator_> QUESTION: Do message filters in Thunderbird work on IMAP servers?
[09:34] <Flashq009> what do I need to do to access root privileges via the terminal?
[09:34] <affan> cinnix: did you do a new install when you got this error?
[09:34] <affan> Flashq009: sudo
[09:34] <Flashq009> I did
[09:34] <darkyoshi372> Flashq009: sudo
[09:34] <affan> Flashq009: wateva command you wish to run.. pre-pend sudo
[09:35] <Flashq009> it ask for root password
[09:35] <affan> Flashq009: no it asks for YOUR password.... IIRC
[09:35] <Flashq009> I have no password
[09:35] <darkyoshi372> so just press enter
[09:35] <Flannel> Flashq009: for your user?
[09:35] <cinnix> affan, yes i have no trace of previous distros on my computer. but before it was giving me a different error along the lines of: not able to access ttl, cant find job control or something
[09:35] <JeevesBond> Damn, sorry darkyoshi. If you look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the line: Option "RenderAccel" "true" there, it should be under the Device section
[09:35] <Flashq009> its a default install
[09:35] <dsforsaken> sexcopter8000m: i cant because when i try to mount /dev/sda1 with is /boot it says device is not removable and could not execute pmount
[09:36] <Flannel> Flashq009: you have a password.  your user password.
[09:36] <affan> Flashq009: did you choose one when you installed it?
[09:36] <darkyoshi372> JeevesBond: Thanks, I'll try that!
[09:36] <Flashq009> no, just running of cd
[09:36] <ffub> has anyone here given reactos a try?
[09:36] <Flannel> ffub: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to ask
[09:36] <JeevesBond> !reactos
[09:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about reactos
[09:36] <TLE> Hey, just installed e16 from repos, and get login item e-Gnome. But when I log in, nothing happens, it's still running metacity, how di I proceed ?
[09:37] <affan> cinnix: was it a desktop install or a server?
[09:37] <ffub> jeeves here has a !fetish
[09:37] <cinnix> desktop version
[09:37] <darkyoshi372> JeevesBond: Should I use the ati or fglrx driver?
[09:37] <Cntryboy> okay back
[09:37] <JeevesBond> lol ffub. Am just trying to chat the bot up
[09:38] <B68ari> hi guys
[09:38] <Cntryboy> so does anyone know if I close terminal while this krename is downloading, and apt-get install later will it resume where it's at now?
[09:38] <affan> cinnix: did you make sure the CD didnt have any errors? maybe it has to do with the 64 bit processor that you have... while i have no experience installing it on a 64 bit machine but maybe you have to download a different CD/version?
[09:38] <JeevesBond> To be honest darkyoshi372 I have no idea. Hopefully someone else will know, am a bit of a nOOb :)
[09:38] <dsforsaken> sexcopter8000m: bak
[09:38] <BCK> is anyone having problems connecting to msn with kopete ?
[09:38] <Steve^> where does apache install by default?
[09:38] <Flashq009> flannel:  I am just running from cd.  I put "su" and it asks for password, I do not know the password.
[09:38] <bbrazil> Cntryboy: it'll redownload anything it hasn't gotten all of
[09:38] <affan> BCK: yes.... from Gaim
[09:38] <B68ari> a little help here plz
[09:38] <darkyoshi372> JeevesBond: You're pretty good for a n00b, thanks so much for your help!
[09:38] <BCK> ty affan
[09:39] <Flannel> Flashq009: use sudo, not su.
[09:39] <bbrazil> Cntryboy: otherwise should be fine. See screen
[09:39] <sexcopter8000m> dsforsaken, ok, i don't really know what to suggest, but there's a wiki about how to recover grub, i'll just dig it out
[09:39] <affan> sure B68ari
[09:39] <BCK> says service is down :(
[09:39] <JeevesBond> Heh, that's ok!
[09:39] <Flannel> !tell Flashq009 about sudo
[09:39] <darkyoshi372> BCK: I think MSN is down, I can't connect with GAIM
[09:39] <BCK> yeh
[09:39] <BCK> must be
[09:39] <Bizzeh> it is
[09:39] <darkyoshi372> Silly Microsoft and their Windows servers :)
[09:39] <Cntryboy> okay so then it will resume later okay then thx
[09:39] <ffub> I had that same problem
[09:39] <Administrator_> QUESTION: Do message filters in Thunderbird work on IMAP servers?
[09:39] <JeevesBond> That's because they're using Windoze servers
[09:39] <B68ari> well how about webcams in linux ?
[09:39] <cinnix> hmmm
[09:39] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> whats the command for setting up file permissions?
[09:39] <Bizzeh> its schedualed maintenance
[09:39] <ffub> msn actaully has very goos uptime
[09:39] <ffub> much better than aim
[09:39] <bbrazil> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: chmod
[09:39] <B68ari> how do i get them to work
[09:39] <JeevesBond> Scheduled crashing more like :)
[09:40] <dsforsaken> sexcopter8000m: ok thanks
[09:40] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> bbrazil: ty
[09:40] <Steve^> ok, how do I search for a directory?
[09:40] <bbrazil> B68ari: some work
[09:40] <sexcopter8000m> dsforsaken, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows you're welcome, hope it helps :)
[09:40] <affan> B68ari: search the web? i saw a couple of tutorials there
[09:40] <B68ari> ok
[09:40] <Bizzeh> JeevesBond: they took it off line to upgrade it all to be compatable with messenger live
[09:40] <Bizzeh> and the new protocol
[09:40] <ffub> ah
[09:40] <bbrazil> Steve^: locate, find
[09:40] <ffub> that makes sense
[09:40] <Bizzeh> only a handful of servers ran it up to now
[09:40] <cinnix> i get the same problem when checking th cd for eroor :(
[09:40] <ffub> messenger live is very nice
[09:40] <affan> B68ari: do you know how to install a USB driver/camera etc?
[09:41] <B68ari> yea
[09:41] <JeevesBond> Yuk! Messenger live
[09:41] <B68ari> but mine requiers a CD
[09:41] <B68ari> never used linux b4
[09:41] <Bizzeh> JeevesBond: whats wrong with it?
[09:41] <dsforsaken> also whats the root password on hte livecd?
[09:41] <affan> B68ari: oh ok, thanks. Welcome!
[09:41] <B68ari> and dont know what i should download of the assus or whatever its name is messenger...i
[09:42] <ffub> Jeevesbond: what makes you say yucK? It is very nice and clean.
[09:42] <LoRez> EvilNed: are you STILL going to OSU?
[09:42] <JeevesBond> it's got Microsoft written on it? ;)
[09:42] <B68ari> n00b
[09:42] <ffub> good god
[09:42] <Bizzeh> JeevesBond: what do you have against microsoft?
[09:42] <JeevesBond> They're closed source
[09:42] <affan> B68ari: not for long ;)
[09:42] <B68ari> ;)
[09:42] <Bizzeh> and that makes them bad?
[09:42] <smev9> how can i get the movies to my tv
[09:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: yes
[09:42] <darkyoshi372> They make cruddy software, Bizzeh!
[09:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Very
[09:42] <JeevesBond> Yeah, means I can't trust them
[09:42] <ffub> people liek you are idiotes, if you tried live you would realize it is actually much more effective than using aim
[09:42] <Bizzeh> JeevesBond: why?
[09:42] <damned> hmm... good talks about microsoft? offtopic :)
[09:43] <ffub> Trus has nothign to do with it
[09:43] <Bizzeh> i cant trust linux to not crash on my dual cure system
[09:43] <Bizzeh> core
[09:43] <JeevesBond> Because there's no peer review of their code
[09:43] <Bizzeh> which it does
[09:43] <Bizzeh> contantly
[09:43] <ffub> if a product is good, it is good
[09:43] <dsforsaken> so does neone know the root password for the livecd?
[09:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: Allow me to explain
[09:43] <Bizzeh> linux as a kernel is slow, sluggish, and bad at smp
[09:43] <Bizzeh> why should i trust it?
[09:43] <ffub> have you tried office 2007? Beats openoddice to a pulp
[09:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Its not about trust
[09:43] <affan> dsforsaken: why do you need a root password? sudo
[09:43] <smev9> noone know how video can be viewed with a tv
[09:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> well, it kinda is
[09:43] <Bizzeh> its also terrible at threading
[09:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> but think about it this way
[09:43] <Bizzeh> and media
[09:44] <ffub> trust plays a part in wether you want to use it
[09:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> if MS wanted to slip spyware into their OS, no one would know
[09:44] <darkyoshi372> I slap Bizzeh for trolling!
[09:44] <ffub> but in terms of quality of coding, it is not important
[09:44] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: anyone could slip it into ubuntu
[09:44] <Bizzeh> no one would know
[09:44] <ffub> yes, but why woudl they?
[09:44] <bbrazil> Kyral_FreeBSD: they started that with 95
[09:44] <darkyoshi372> No they couldn't
[09:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: I am getting to this
[09:44] <B68ari> i use ubuntu should i so download the aMSN that has ubuntu behind it ?
[09:44] <ffub> a certain amount of spyware does exist
[09:44] <JeevesBond> Bizzeh, you're talking crap
[09:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> The point about keeping the Source open is that ANYONE can look at it
[09:44] <JeevesBond> Ubuntu is open source
[09:44] <ffub> yes
[09:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Or, as Eric Reymond said
[09:44] <JeevesBond> Exactly Kyral
[09:45] <speel> what good is open source if your not a programmer 0.o
[09:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> "Given Infinite Many Eyes, All Problems Are Shallow"
[09:45] <ffub> but open source does not equal higher quality all the time
[09:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> aka, Linus' Law
[09:45] <Flannel> !offtopic
[09:45] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: so, someone like my mum is supposed to check the source of ubuntu to make sure there isnt any spyware in it?
[09:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: No, but if she wanted to she could
[09:45] <Bizzeh> my mum who can just about turn on the computer
[09:45] <darkyoshi372> It doesn't equal quality all the time, but it is always improving
[09:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and lord knows there are enough already doing it :D
[09:45] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: so whats the point of it being there?
[09:45] <JeevesBond> It's not whether you do or don't, it's the fact that you can
[09:45] <mikearthur> I'm trying to install xubuntu on a G3 iMac. It says its loading the kernel then just goes to a white screen that says "can't allocate initial device-tree chunk". Any ideas?
[09:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Yes
[09:45] <Bizzeh> if she cant view it because she doesnt know how
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: but if she wanted to she COULD
[09:46] <darkyoshi372> Bizzeh, are you using XChat?
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> with MS you CAN'T
[09:46] <Bizzeh> no, because its terrible
[09:46] <Bizzeh> GTK is a horrible GUI system
[09:46] <darkyoshi372> TROLL!
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> He is using mIRC
[09:46] <Bizzeh> xchat is a very badly writen client
[09:46] <hardwarehank> hey - new ubuntu install doesn't have a grub dir in /boot. why?
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Then try Konversation
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> or, the end all of IRC Clients
[09:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Irssi :D
[09:46] <JeevesBond> Oh dear, would someone please chuck the idiot out of the help channel
[09:46] <hardwarehank> BitchX
[09:46] <hayden> hello, did someone evere made wlan network in ad-hoc mode???
[09:46] <EvilNed> got a weird problem. I'm using drake, with the k7 kernel.  I'm booting off of a silicon image 3112a  sata controller, and grub comes up fine.  after that, ubuntu hangs on searching for the root filesystem.
[09:47] <Bizzeh> i use irssi when im forced to use linux
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: then what are you doing here?
[09:47] <Bizzeh> im more of a bsd person
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Aside from becoming Flamebait?
[09:47] <hardwarehank> forced? what do you prefer
[09:47] <hardwarehank> oh ok
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Ah, BSD
[09:47] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: being forced to use linux
[09:47] <speel> hardwarehank, er i think grub is in /etc ... i could be wrong tho
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Its interesting no doubt
[09:47] <hardwarehank> weird, thanks
[09:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> As is the Hurd :D
[09:47] <dsforsaken> how do i know what /dev/sda1 is in the format of (hd x,x)?
[09:47] <dattas> does ubuntu have a built in firewall?
[09:47] <speel> anytime
[09:47] <hardwarehank> no grub in etc
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> dsforsaken: izzat where your boot thing is?
[09:48] <Bizzeh> BSD is far more stable, far better, far faster than linux, AND it is good with threads
[09:48] <EvilNed> the machine booted just fine previously.
[09:48] <speel> hmm i thaught it was
[09:48] <darkyoshi372> Chanop, please get rid or our troll.
[09:48] <xBONESstyle> dattas, I'm not sure, but it has Firestarter in the repositories.
[09:48] <smev9> how can i configure x to let my geforce6600 for tv output, i dont even know a command. Suse always had sax2, has ubuntu something similar?
[09:48] <B68ari> how do i get aMSN to work.. it wont install
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: This is yet to be determined from my experiance
[09:48] <sameer> can some one pls help me with wl-167g
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !firewall
[09:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:48] <hardwarehank> anyone else know where I can find grub.conf?
[09:48] <sameer> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[09:48] <sameer> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[09:48] <darkyoshi372> B68ari: did you do sudo apt-get install amsn?
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> hardwarehank: /boot
[09:48] <dattas> thx
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> err
[09:48] <henster> sounds busted with a recent update. "alsamixer" is saying snd_ctl_open failed... ?
[09:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:48] <speel> hardwarehank, your sure its not in /boot?
[09:49] <B68ari> eeeeehhh
[09:49] <Bizzeh> darkyoshi372: what are you? yet another typical linux user, claim you want freedom, claim your for all this crap.. but, in the end, your even more closed minded than anyone else
[09:49] <hardwarehank> absolutely
[09:49] <Murrlin> somehow I think my repositories are broken
[09:49] <hardwarehank> the system boots though
[09:49] <Bizzeh> soon as someone voices an anti-linux opinion, you run crying
[09:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: At least we don't start flamewars with other OS's
[09:49] <EvilNed> wow troll fest in here
[09:49] <darkyoshi372> Bizzeh, face it, no matter what I am, YOU are a troll. Please leave.
[09:49] <B68ari> come again darkyosi372.....didnet understand that
[09:49] <JeevesBond> B68ari:Do you have to use aMSN? GAIM does exactly the same, but with more networks
[09:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> You don't see me jumping into #windows  do you? :P
[09:49] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: i didnt start the war
[09:49] <B68ari> oooook
[09:49] <hardwarehank> ha!  boots not mounted - no wonder
[09:49] <hardwarehank> thanks
[09:49] <Bizzeh> JeevesBond did with the anti-microsoft campain
[09:49] <darkyoshi372> B68ari: How did you install it?
[09:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: I shall be glad to discuss this with you in PM
[09:49] <B68ari> havent
[09:50] <JeevesBond> LOL, no I didn't
[09:50] <darkyoshi372> Actually, I think I started it... :P
[09:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Before we BOTH get kicked
[09:50] <B68ari> download and try to install
[09:50] <B68ari> but it wont work
[09:50] <BCK> msn back :)
[09:50] <smev9> its a matter of taste which bs and a matter of intelligence to troll or not to troll, now quit that ms vs linux vs bsd talk and help me out, please
[09:50] <JeevesBond> Someone started on about the MSN network. I'd like to shutup about it all now though
[09:50] <darkyoshi372> B68ari:  How did you install it?
[09:50] <affan> BCK: not for me
[09:50] <Bizzeh> i will revise my opinion of linux when it gets good multithreading, and moves away from this rediculous mutli-process crap, and when it is stable on smp
[09:50] <gmon> help, how do I restore grub with ubuntu live (desktop) cd?
[09:51] <B68ari> it says wrong file type
[09:51] <alexcamilo-u5> Hello. I would like to update from 5.10 to 6.06. What sources do i need to add to make the "upgrade" buttion show up.
[09:51] <jenda> Evolution gives me "MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first j2sm77710ugf" when send/recieve is clicked. what does that mean?
[09:51] <erUSUL> Bizzeh: please stay on topic or go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:51] <jenda> What's the reason to use evolution over thunderbird?
[09:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: I help run a lab with 20 SMP machines, all on Linux, they haven't crashed yet
[09:51] <Bizzeh> erUSUL: im speaking about linux in general
[09:51] <Murrlin> will dapper repositories be online ... ummm...?
[09:51] <cinnix> decrompressing linux....done. booting the kernel. [  31.978380]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 5 of device 0000:00:01.1
[09:51] <JeevesBond> !smp
[09:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp
[09:51] <cinnix> what this mean?
[09:51] <BCK> affan: hmm, mine just signed in
[09:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> cinnix: Something REALLY ain't right
[09:52] <smev9> is there a command to configure x     need tv out
[09:52] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: put ubuntu 6.06 desktop on them
[09:52] <cinnix> :)
[09:52] <JeevesBond> B68ari: Are you downloading from source?
[09:52] <Bizzeh> death shall come on swift wings
[09:52] <makin> nas
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: Ubuntu != all of linux
[09:52] <B68ari> yes
[09:52] <affan> BCK: congrats! :P
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Heck I don't run it anymore
[09:52] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: the crash is in the kernel
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ArchLinux
[09:52] <cinnix> hmmm
[09:52] <B68ari> should i not
[09:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> This ain't BSD
[09:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> the Kernel isn't tied to the Distro as much as BSDs is
[09:53] <darkyoshi372> Bizzeh, I will repeat myself. You are trolling, and this is a help topic. You are making other people's lives worse by being here and trolling.
[09:53] <smev9> it isnt a support channel, then?
[09:53] <JeevesBond> So what exactly have you done so far to get it working?
[09:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: now if you wish to discuss this I would be glad to speak in PMSG
[09:53] <JeevesBond> What did you type to install?
[09:53] <Bizzeh> Kyral_FreeBSD: ok
[09:53] <Bizzeh> i shall move back to topic
[09:53] <Bizzeh> if anyone is still willing to give me a small bit of info
[09:53] <jony5> who from russian?
[09:53] <JeevesBond> Good luck Kyral_FreeBSD ;)
[09:53] <affan> thanks Bizzeh
[09:53] <B68ari> aMSN-0.95 ubuntu.deb
[09:53] <baughj> Anyone know why us.archive.ubuntu.com is throwing 403's when you try to fetch packages?
[09:54] <Bizzeh> is there anything else other than build-essentials i need to build stuff?
[09:54] <franky123> can someone help me? i stuck an asdf.so in /usr/lib and then i want to use it in ld so i do ld -lasdf but ld says it can't find the library. how am i supposed to do this?
[09:54] <gmon> help, how do I restore grub with ubuntu live (desktop) cd?
[09:54] <draco> baughj I was getting ready to ask the same question!
[09:54] <henster> sounds busted with a recent update. "alsamixer" is saying snd_ctl_open failed... ?
[09:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Bizzeh: the dependant libraries of whatever you wanna build
[09:54] <Murrlin> and draco
[09:54] <cinnix> anyone willing to help me install dapper drake from scratch PM me please
[09:54] <rixxon> cinnix: 1. boot desktop cd, 2. press "install" icon, 3. follow six simple steps
[09:55] <draco> baughj I did notice all the files are gone on the server... looks like they have problems.
[09:55] <erUSUL> Bizzeh: you are liyng about linux in general. threathing in linux is far etter than in BSD's NPTL is better than libthr and libkse it is an 1:1 implementation that thanks to the O(1) sched of I. Molnar just rocks the BSD's out.
[09:55] <baughj> draco: heh. hadn't looked at the server yet
[09:55] <gdb> Anyone know how I can add a Trash basket to the desktop?
[09:55] <dattas> the apt-get install mysql-server also installs remote functions correct? i am having trouble getting into mysql from remote computers.
[09:55] <gdb> It's really easy to drag out a Computer or Home, but Trash doesn't seem to want to drag to the desktop. :-)
[09:55] <cinnix> rixxon, thanks but i understand what SHOULD happen. the distro is not running the way it was intended to
[09:55] <JeevesBond> B68ari: have you tried typing the following: sudo apt-get install amsn ???
[09:56] <B68ari> no
[09:56] <rixxon> cinnix: oh, sorry then
[09:56] <JeevesBond> (without the question marks)
[09:56] <B68ari> where should i type it
[09:56] <darkyoshi372> B68ari:  in command line
[09:56] <gdb> dattas: While it may in Ubuntu, I don't believe MySQL listens to the network by default.
[09:56] <JeevesBond> Give that a go. Type it in a console
[09:56] <B68ari> which is where
[09:56] <darkyoshi372> B68ari: menu>applications>terminal
[09:56] <dattas> ok thanks, i guess i will have to search in mysql then
[09:56] <darkyoshi372> B68ari: sorry, it's accessories
[09:56] <baughj> draco: Looks like only universe is affected?
[09:57] <rixxon> cinnix: did you try failsafe? or that vga mode or whatever it is
[09:57] <B68ari> ok
[09:57] <JeevesBond> It's not like Windows B68ari. You generally download from central repositories
[09:57] <B68ari> ok
[09:57] <JeevesBond> No need to go looking on the Internet ;)
[09:57] <st3> queston: i want to do iso images with the full ubuntu universe archive
[09:57] <draco> baughj: Could be, I was trying to download wine off of universe.
[09:57] <darkyoshi372> The command line is the best part of linux, it lets you do anything faster.
[09:57] <st3> is there any way to do it?
[09:57] <alexbligh> how to I control which video outputs my laptop uses (Ubuntu Dapper) so I can make a presentation on a projector that doesn't support the 1600x1200 res that's on my panel?
[09:58] <B68ari> and then press enter ?
[09:58] <darkyoshi372> yes!
[09:58] <darkyoshi372> B68ari: It's that easy!
[09:58] <JeevesBond> Yep darkyoshi372! If you're a bit scared of using the command line you can use Synaptic Package Manager B68ari
[09:58] <JeevesBond> Yes, press enter!
[09:58] <cinnix> rixxon, freezing on mount root file system
[09:58] <darkyoshi372> or menu>add/remove programs
[09:58] <B68ari> asks for password ?
[09:58] <darkyoshi372> use your password
[09:58] <B68ari> oh
[09:58] <JeevesBond> Yeah, type in your user password
[09:58] <alexbligh> how to I control which video outputs my laptop uses (Ubuntu Dapper) so I can make a presentation on a projector that doesn't support the 1600x1200 res that's on my panel?
[09:59] <Dewz> Hello, could someone help me out?
[09:59] <JeevesBond> It's a bit odd, that's an Ubuntu thing. Other distros behave differently
[09:59] <JeevesBond> Hopefull Dewz :)
[09:59] <affan> Dewz: depends
[09:59] <Dewz> I just downloaded the Ubuntu server edition, made the disk and installed it on a machine.
[09:59] <Dewz> I was wondering how I start the GUI.
[09:59] <JeevesBond> COngrats!
[09:59] <chapium> how do I share folders on Ubuntu with other windows computers?
[09:59] <darkyoshi372> Dewz: I don't think the GUI is installed on the server
[09:59] <franky123> dewz: the server edition doesnt come with gui?
[09:59] <JeevesBond> Is there a GUI on the server edition?
[09:59] <LeaChim> Dewz, the server edition doesn't come with the gui by default. that's why it's the server, not the desktop edition
[09:59] <Dewz> Oh.. really?
[09:59] <dreamthief> alexbligh, imho using different video outputs with changing them on the fly is a real pain in the ass with linux ^^
[10:00] <darkyoshi372> If you're connected to the internet, install gnome
[10:00] <franky123> dewz: you might have to apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <affan> Dewz: you have to do something like apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <darkyoshi372> or ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <LeaChim> Dewz, to install the entire desktop, use the command: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <JeevesBond> Why have a GUI hogging a servers resources? :)
[10:00] <JeevesBond> Makes sense eh?
[10:00] <chapium> esp gnome..
[10:00] <henster> sounds busted with a recent update. "alsamixer" is saying snd_ctl_open failed... any_ideas?
[10:00] <N3o21> hi, can you help me? I changed /etc/fstab, because I want to use ntfs-fuse... the NTFS disks are mounted, and works. But diks aren't show at desktop.
[10:00] <smev9> Please, how can i use tv-out .... a command a link, help me out, you got to know it
[10:00] <tanek> !ati
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <n1xt3r> How do you install firefox 1.5 extensions for 1.5.04 when they complain about 1.5.0.4?
[10:01] <Amaranth> N3o21: I could only make then show up after a restart.
[10:01] <Dewz> Is there an easy way to learn all of this linux command line stuff?
[10:01] <Dewz> Cuz' I'm really having a fun time.  lol.
[10:01] <chapium> Dewz: linuxnewbie.org i believe
[10:01] <darkyoshi372> Dewz: It just takes experience
[10:01] <_bt> yes Dewz
[10:01] <Amaranth> Dewz: Not really. You just learn as you go.
[10:01] <darkyoshi372> that too :)
[10:01] <_bt> type    man <command>
[10:01] <franky123> can someone tell me how "ld" works? i want to link something with a .so i stuck in /usr/lib but i dont know how?
[10:01] <Amaranth> Dewz: man <command> tells you all about a command
[10:01] <JeevesBond> Dewz: Not really. But it's worth it!
[10:02] <N3o21> Amaranth: ? they will be shown after I restart computer?
[10:02] <B68ari> it wont type in the password....just a big fat black dot bleeping around
[10:02] <_bt> franky123, try >>  man ld
[10:02] <smev9> !tv
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about tv
[10:02] <Dewz> I'm really starting to not like windows.
[10:02] <smev9> !tv-out
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about tv-out
[10:02] <Amaranth> N3o21: If they're set to automount in fstab, yeah.
[10:02] <smev9> !nvidia
[10:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <Ademan> is there a channel for metacity development?
[10:02] <JeevesBond> I can't live without a linux command line on the computer
[10:02] <chapium> Dewz: man might tell you about a command, but good luck with that... google is another good resource, I found a lot of good information about using sed by googling "sed tutorial"
[10:02] <Amaranth> Ademan: #gnome-hackers on irc.gnome.org
[10:02] <sameer> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:02] <sameer> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[10:02] <Ademan> thanks amaranth
[10:03] <darkyoshi372> Dewz: see my private message
[10:03] <N3o21> Amaranth: but I restarted a computer for few times and nothing happens
[10:03] <sameer> any one any idea i m installing wireless adaptor= wl-167g
[10:03] <JeevesBond> B68ari: Just type the password and press enter. Regardless of dots
[10:03] <Amaranth> N3o21: Are the partitions set to automount in fstab?
[10:03] <Dewz> So um, after it intsall,  do I do startx?
[10:03] <Amaranth> N3o21: they'd have "auto" as one of the options
[10:03] <franky123> _bt: i did and i know i do something like ld -lasdf for asdf.so. but i stuck asdf.so in /usr/lib and i know thats in my path because whereis asdf works, but ld still says that it cant find it.
[10:03] <chapium> 855 people here and none of you have tried to share a folder with windows!?  help..
[10:03] <N3o21> Amaranth: /dev/hdb1       /media/storage  ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1001,umask=0007    0    0
[10:03] <N3o21> Amaranth: yes
[10:03] <Amaranth> N3o21: odd
[10:04] <daved> anyone else getting 403 forbidden when trying to get packages from multiverse?
[10:04] <[NP] Tangent> chapium: I don't believe in Windows :P
[10:04] <N3o21> Amaranth: what I have to do to show them on desktop?
[10:04] <lasindi[lappy] > daved: yeah
[10:04] <alexbligh> Seems like the trick is to go into X with the monitor plugged in
[10:04] <JeevesBond> chapium: what was the problem again?
[10:04] <chapium> [NP] Tangent: windows believes in you
[10:04] <cinnix> guys, i gave rearranged my ide cables and now the problem is extended with /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. can anyone help me knowing this or must i ellaborate?
[10:04] <lasindi[lappy] > daved: not just multiverse either
[10:05] <Amaranth> N3o21: I don't know.
[10:05] <daved> [NP] Tangent: all zealots are morons, no matter what your zealotry is for.. kthx
[10:05] <hardwarehank> so, still the same problem - it's complaining my boot partition is mounted, but it's not
[10:05] <hardwarehank> I'm using LVM and trying to mount boot on top of the LVM partition
[10:05] <chapium> JeevesBond: I cannot connect the ubuntu computer on the network through windows 2000.  However I can connect to windows 2000 thru ubuntu
[10:05] <N3o21> Amaranth: I think, this causes the ntfs-fuse modules... :(
[10:05] <JeevesBond> daved: He said he doesn't believe. That's not zealoutry
[10:05] <sneex> any one here use DFSBuild ???
[10:06] <chapium> JeevesBond: I cannot get past the password prompt.  I've tried using sambapwd, but I keep getting errors
[10:06] <JeevesBond> errr. Zealotry*
[10:06] <N3o21> Amaranth: I think, this causes the ntfs-fuse module... :(
[10:06] <chapium> JeevesBond: I meant smbpasswd
[10:06] <Amaranth> N3o21: I saw the first time, I don't know what to do.
[10:06] <daved> JeevesBond: if you read what he really said it was <guy> i need help connecting linux to windows   <zealot> windows sucks!
[10:06] <cinnix> guys, i gave rearranged my ide cables and now the problem is extended with /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. can anyone help me knowing this or must i ellaborate?please help
[10:06] <B68ari> download first then launch install whit the terminal ?
[10:07] <n1xt3r> chapium: create a share on win2k
[10:07] <JeevesBond> Oh, then you're right daved :)
[10:07] <sireliah> does ubuntu come with a av program? or firewall?
[10:07] <chapium> n1xt3r: I want the files on ubuntu
[10:07] <sneex> firewall
[10:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !firewall
[10:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[10:07] <JeevesBond> cahpium: Have you looked under System -> Administration -> Shared Folder Settings?
[10:08] <chapium> JeevesBond: yes, its sparse
[10:08] <JeevesBond> I don't have any experience of connecting in the other direction. Only Windows from Linux
[10:08] <JeevesBond> Hmmm
[10:08] <Dewz> Hey guys, after I had installed the Ubuntu-desktop, how do I get into the gui?
[10:08] <affan> Dewz: startx
[10:08] <UnityDivided> startx ?
[10:09] <JeevesBond> So how far do you get. You browse the network from Windows...?@
[10:09] <Dewz> hmm, it's saying command not found.
[10:09] <darkyoshi372> Dewz: Try rebooting
[10:09] <JeevesBond> Rebooting?!
[10:09] <n1xt3r> chapium: did you create a share on ubuntu?
[10:09] <JeevesBond> This is Linux!
[10:09] <Murrlin> hee
[10:09] <darkyoshi372> It still helps :}
[10:09] <b166er> HELP, i'm in irssi, just installed dapper, tried to install my nvidia card, but.. the xorg.conf was showing a driver, but it wasnt 'nv' i changed it to nvidia..now all i got when loading X is my mouse pointer and a black screen, putting it back to nv does the same
[10:09] <TLE> anybody else having trouble with msn servers right now ?
[10:09] <sireliah> does firestarter GUI come with ubuntu?????
[10:09] <tomlikest> Dews: Try gdm?
[10:09] <JeevesBond> MSN is down at the moment
[10:10] <chapium> JeevesBond: I can see the ubuntu computer on the network, I double click and i get a login and password prompt.  I cannot get any further than that because it doesnt like my password
[10:10] <B68ari> tell me that get install thing again. ----------- get install ?
[10:10] <B68ari> souhu
[10:10] <Murrlin> sudo apt-get install
[10:10] <B68ari> soho
[10:10] <JeevesBond> sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:10] <b166er> will i have to reinstall ?
[10:10] <Murrlin> ?
[10:10] <B68ari> ok
[10:11] <iratik> I have a "dont know which channel to ask" question. : I have a computer with an AMD athlon- now which type of executable should i download ? "alpha","intel" or "ppc" (refering to http://www.php-accelerator.co.uk/download.php)
[10:11] <iratik> the woman is the only gift which you choose?
[10:11] <tomlikest> intel
[10:11] <pteppic> Evening all.
[10:11] <iratik> tomlikest: intel=amd?
[10:11] <JeevesBond> So you've tried typing in your root/whatever ubuntu calls it username/password?! Weird!
[10:11] <b166er> :|
[10:11] <pteppic> apt pin pins a package to a specific version.  Is there a way of denying a package althogether, even if called as a dependancy?
[10:12] <doc__> hi, I've got a problem after ubuntu updated some stuff yesterday
[10:12] <tomlikest> iratik: yeah, it's technically just a 386 chip structure.
[10:12] <tomlikest> iratik: intel is basically a way of saying the i386 architechture
[10:12] <B68ari> well it launched but...couldent find filepackage bla bla bla
[10:12] <pteppic> doc__: Is it kernel related?
[10:12] <doc__> my nvidia kernel modules won't load anymore, and the gui doesn't come up.
[10:12] <tomlikest> are you 64 bit?
[10:12] <b166er> anybody knows  whats (and/or why) the (unknown) driver name after a dapper install with a geforce 2 ?
[10:12] <JeevesBond> am just trying it myself
[10:12] <Dewz> Does ubuntu desktop have the same LAMP capabilities as the server?
[10:12] <Dewz> If so, i'll just redownload the iso and make another disk.
[10:12] <doc__> pteppic: don't know, how do I tell?
[10:12] <pteppic> Dewz: Packages are availible.  Yes.
[10:12] <ddrj> hey guys, i downloaded instlux, and i run the cdrom one and i reboot, but nothing happens?
[10:12] <iratik> tomlikest: yes when i run head /proc/cpuinfo it says "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processr 4200"
[10:12] <pteppic> doc__: Which updates did you install?
[10:13] <JeevesBond> Yes Dewz, if you install the packages
[10:13] <iratik> tomlikesit: would that make a difference
[10:13] <b166er> help ?
[10:13] <doc__> pteppic: that's a good question too, there was this icon which prodded me with a ton of recommended updates.
[10:13] <B68ari> huff im done for
[10:13] <tomlikest> iratik: are you running a 64bit kernel?
[10:13] <iratik> how do i find out
[10:13] <tomlikest> type uname -r
[10:14] <pteppic> doc__: And you didn't read them before you updated?  Okely dokes.  Are you running 64 bit or 32 bit, and was it an update from a fresh install?
[10:14] <iratik> do they make ubuntu-dapper for 64 bit kernel?
[10:14] <Bizzeh> how can i get 2.6.17 in dapper?
[10:14] <doc__> 32 bit
[10:14] <MagicFab> does anyone know which Windows version of OpenOffice.org is included in the Dapper Desktop lice CD ?
[10:14] <pteppic> iratik: Yes, but it's a pain in the arse.
[10:14] <iratik> tomlikesit: 2.6.15-23-server
[10:14] <doc__> pteppic: well the install is maybe two weeks old
[10:14] <JeevesBond> B68ari. Try going to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[10:14] <pteppic> doc__: Sounds like you've had the latest kernel pushed.
[10:14] <orbin> ddrj: er, you don't need to reboot apparently...you jsut run an installer
[10:14] <JeevesBond> Type in the password and that'll give you a nice GUI to play with :)
[10:14] <b166er> so anyone can help me then, guess i'll reinstall
[10:14] <pteppic> doc__: Can you drop into single user mode?
[10:14] <pteppic> b166er: What's the problem?
[10:14] <doc__> pteppic: i'm on the console with irrsi as I type
[10:15] <Dewz> I got a error reading from server remote end closed connection when doing the ubuntu-desktop install
[10:15] <JeevesBond> It's just called "nvidia" on mine b166er
[10:15] <iratik> pteppic: So with "AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core" and 2.6.15-23-server which option should i select on this page http://www.php-accelerator.co.uk/download.php
[10:15] <iratik> intel 4.40 1.3.3r2?
[10:15] <doc__> pteppic: I could start a screen so I can query some stuff if you want?
[10:15] <rpedro> b166er: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:15] <Bizzeh> how can i get linux 2.6.17 in dapper?
[10:15] <pteppic> doc__: One sec.  I'm checking for the package name.
[10:16] <b166er> pteppic just finished installing dapper...tried to install my nvidia (gf2) , changed the driver name to nvidia (but it wasnt nv to start..) then, all is black when i log in X
[10:16] <NoUse> Bizzeh if you compile it yourself, yes
[10:16] <rpedro> b166er: and use the default nv driver for now,
[10:16] <tomlikest> iratik: Linux(Intel) ver 4.4.0
[10:16] <animato> hello, i wanna convert some bookmarks from epiphany to firefox? anyway to convert rtf to html
[10:16] <iratik> tomlikesit: thanks
[10:16] <pteppic> doc__: apt-cache profile linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic, tell me what it says.
[10:16] <doc__> brb
[10:16] <tomlikest> iratik: np, sorry 'bout taking the long way around
[10:16] <JeevesBond> b166er: Do what rpedro  suggested
[10:16] <Intelligi> To try out Ubuntu, just stick the Live CD and restart?
[10:16] <doc__> exit
[10:16] <b166er> rpedro, the default nv driver doesnt cut it for 3D .... and 'nv' or 'nvidia' i cannot load in Gui
[10:16] <pteppic> b166er: you need to install the kernel module to go with it.  Google for nvidia kernel module and go from there.
[10:17] <JeevesBond> Yes Intelligi
[10:17] <rpedro> b166er: the default is nv
[10:17] <JeevesBond> The installer's also in there
[10:17] <b166er> Google in Terminal :|
[10:17] <b166er> rpedro, what i'm saying is that IT WASNT
[10:17] <Intelligi> So it won't do anything to my hard drive?
[10:17] <pteppic> b166er: You need to install the restricted modules and then enable it.
[10:17] <rpedro> b166er: you can use nvidia after you get a working xorg.conf
[10:17] <b166er> but i didnt pay atention more than that :|
[10:17] <pteppic> b166er: Apologies.
[10:17] <animato> no intelligi
[10:17] <animato> that's why it's called LIVE CD
[10:17] <Intelligi> Ok, thanks. Gonna test it out now.
[10:17] <pteppic> b166er: Do you have lynx or links availible?
[10:17] <chapium> JeevesBond: I got it to work!  I needed to add a user on the ubuntu side.  i was trying smbpasswd -a -m username instead of smbpasswd -a username
[10:18] <JeevesBond> Have fun Intelligi!
[10:18] <doc__> pteppic: sry, what was the module again? (darn how to I paste between screens)
[10:18] <b166er> not installed..
[10:18] <B68ari> launched synaptic packagehandeling then what...i dont see aMSN anywhere
[10:18] <animato> hello, i wanna convert some bookmarks from epiphany to firefox? anyway to convert rtf to html
[10:18] <b166er> and the restricted modules are installed..
[10:18] <tomlikestorock> clear
[10:18] <tomlikestorock> heh, woops
[10:18] <pteppic> linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic
[10:18] <JeevesBond> Nice one chapium! Have just realised mine doesn't work. Will ask you if I get stuck ;)
[10:18] <pteppic> doc__: Check the profile for it.
[10:18] <pteppic> b166er: Right ones for the right kernel?  There's borked dependancies for 23 up to 25.
[10:18] <b166er> afk, i'll try 'reconfigure'
[10:19] <chapium> JeevesBond: alright, if i'm not around just use the memoserv
[10:19] <sireliah> wtf does W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/shorewall/shorewall_3.0.4-1_all.deb
[10:19] <sireliah>   403 Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.15 80]  mean?
[10:19] <pteppic> b166er: cat /etc/modules, see if nvidia is in there.
[10:19] <JeevesBond> Heh, thanks mate
[10:19] <b166er> pteppic, well, i followed a online guide
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> sireliah: means that they've protected that directory, or a subdirectory of that site...
[10:19] <pteppic> sireliah: Means you don't have privilidges to access that site.
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> sireliah: try going to it in your browser
[10:20] <pteppic> sireliah: Have you just installed apache?
[10:20] <doc__> pteppic: and the command apt-something profile?
[10:20] <b166er> ok
[10:20] <amandabee> sireliah, are you trying to upgrade to Dapper?
[10:20] <pteppic> doc__: apt-cache profile :-)
[10:20] <b166er> pteppic nop, there's just 'lp' and 'psmouse'
[10:20] <pteppic> b166er: nano /etc/modules
[10:20] <knightabe> I seem to be having a problem with gnome crashing after I login. It crashes before it finishes loading the panel. It has to be related to the driver I'm using for my video card in someway (fglrx) because if I change that back to vesa it works fine. it crashes if I use startx, but not if I start X, export the DISPLAY variable, and then run gnome-session. I'm a bit stumped, does anyone have any ideas?
[10:21] <doc__> pteppic: Invalid operation: profile
[10:21] <knightabe> I'm using dapper of course.
[10:21] <mrDaniel> notebooks have a Fn- button, Fn+Up increases the sound-volume, Fn+Down decreases the sound volume. my problem is, that this function is 'linked' with the volume-control via 'headphones'-volume, how i can link this function with 'PCM' or 'Front'?
[10:21] <b166er> pteppic , same thing
[10:21] <b166er> lp, psmouse
[10:21] <cinnix> install problem: after messing with ide cables and bios settings i reduce the problem to "decrompressing linux... done. Booting the kernel." then nothing happens
[10:21] <sireliah> no im trying to install shoreline firewall
[10:21] <sireliah> can you help me?
[10:21] <pteppic> b166er: In your case, you need to add nvidia to your modules file.
[10:21] <b166er> 'weird'
[10:22] <rixxon> mrDaniel: fn+up does not increase volume on my laptop... fn+f9 does.. point being it varies
[10:22] <Lobster> gn8
[10:22] <rixxon> mrDaniel: point #2 being im sure fn+whatever just sends some other key combination
[10:22] <b166er> so, it just adding 'nvidia' after 'psmouse' inthe /etc/modules ? or ?
[10:22] <TwigEther> tttt/win 18
[10:22] <sireliah> amandabee i was trying to install shoreline firewall
[10:22] <pteppic> b166er: Nope, the kernel module allows direct access to the card.  Add the line nvidia, reboot and try again.
[10:22] <ron_> !ati
[10:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:22] <nekostar> what the motherF
[10:23] <pteppic> b166er: This is presuming that the restricted modules are installed (we'll assume for the min)
[10:23] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> i can't install ubuntu on my desktop because it dosn't recognize hd ide
[10:23] <nekostar> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/universe/source/Sources.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:23] <nekostar> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 146.137.96.7 80] 
[10:23] <orbin> drivers for your monitor? :-/
[10:23] <ron_> :/
[10:23] <cinnix> install problem: after messing with ide cables and bios settings i reduce the problem to "decrompressing linux... done. Booting the kernel." then nothing happens
[10:23] <nekostar> anyone have ANY clue whats up with the repository????????????????
[10:23] <rixxon> nekostar: language. paste. excessive use of question mark. just saying - try to behave :P
[10:23] <teppic> Whoops, livecd froze for a second.
[10:23] <sireliah> pteppic i got that error when trying do dl the package for shoreline firewall
[10:24] <nekostar> rixxon,
[10:24] <b166er> rebooting
[10:24] <teppic> sireliah: Try a different mirror.
[10:24] <nekostar> id like to point out that ubuntu is based on debian
[10:24] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> i can't install ubuntu on my desktop because it dosn't recognize hd ide. Anybody can help me?
[10:24] <knightabe> ron_ I hope that wasn't directed at me, I have fglrx installed, and it was working just fine up until the last time I booted my computer, I haven't changed anything since the last boot, and I have not installed any updates.
[10:24] <nekostar> and none of those things are a problem there................ ~_~
[10:24] <doc__> need help here, after applying yesterdays updates at a whim my nvidia drivers fail to load
[10:24] <teppic> doc__: Gimme a dec.
[10:24] <rixxon> nekostar: then go use debian if you're not happy with ubuntu
[10:24] <nekostar> but in the mean time how about an explination on the errors
[10:24] <teppic> doc__: Try the same thing.  cat /etc/modules
[10:24] <sireliah> how on earth can i try a dif mirror with synaptics
[10:24] <nekostar> im assuming you must be an op to gripe that much
[10:25] <nekostar> and im also assuming that an op would be familiar with that error............
[10:25] <rixxon> nekostar: i guess you could try to change the servers in your sources.list if us.archive is down or broken
[10:25] <rixxon> nekostar: or try apt-get update
[10:25] <Intelligi> I just restarted...the live cd didn't kick in.
[10:25] <Intelligi> What gives?
[10:25] <jenda> which file hold the folders and filters in thunderbird?
[10:25] <orbin> Intelligi: sure boot from cd is enabled in bios?
[10:25] <doc__> teppic: lp psmous sbp2 sr_mod
[10:25] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> i can't install ubuntu on my desktop because it dosn't recognize hd ide. Anybody can help me?
[10:25] <FiNaLAlFa> What filesystem should I be using, ext3, reiser?
[10:25] <teppic> doc__: sudo nano /etc/modules
[10:25] <Intelligi> No, I'm not sure, orbin.
[10:26] <teppic> doc__: Add the line nvidia, reboot.
[10:26] <AngryElf1> FiNaLAlFa, for what?
[10:26] <nekostar> that was output from apt=get update
[10:26] <rixxon> FiNaLAlFa: i don't know - but i know ext3 is what ubuntu uses by default
[10:26] <tomlikestorock> Intelligi: you do, of course, have the bios set to boot from cd rom first, right?
[10:26] <doc__> teppic: will do, brb
[10:26] <teppic> Intelligi: Your BIOS boot order has hard drive set before CD?
[10:26] <teppic> tomlikestorock: You beat me to it :-)
[10:26] <FiNaLAlFa> rixxon , that's what I needed to know, thnx
[10:26] <Intelligi> I don't know. How do I check?
[10:26] <nekostar> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/  <<--- page is empty
[10:26] <nekostar> hacked ?
[10:26] <rixxon> nekostar: oh, right. ofcourse... sorry
[10:26] <tomlikestorock> Intelli: when you boot, hit DEL or F2, or whatever it tells you to go to your bios set up screen
[10:26] <tomlikestorock> Intelli: BE VERY CAREFUL HERE.
[10:26] <tr1gg3r> FiNaLAlFa: u will get many opinions on this, it really depends on ur purpose for a desktop system i recommend reiserfs
[10:27] <rixxon> nekostar: or it is just down :P, try some other archive
[10:27] <Intelligi> I hope F2 works.
[10:27] <Intelligi> brb
[10:27] <tomlikestorock> Intelli: Navigate to where you see your boot order list. Make the cdrom boot first before the hdd
[10:27] <amandabee> intelli, you probably want to google bios and your computer manufacturer to get the right key
[10:27] <billybennett> I wish I installed with ReiserFS but the Ubuntu automaticly did ext3
[10:27] <rixxon> nekostar: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ is alive and kicking
[10:27] <teppic> nekostar: Doubt it's hacked.  More likely a problem.  Try a different mirror?
[10:27] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> i can't install ubuntu on my desktop because it dosn't recognize hd ide. Anybody can help me?
[10:27] <tomlikestorock> this could end in tears
[10:27] <JeevesBond> billybennett: Same here
[10:27] <FiNaLAlFa> tr1gg3r , it is a desktop system. don't know what filesystem will give me the best safety/performance
[10:27] <teppic> tomlikestorock: (understatement)
[10:28] <AngryElf1> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, does the BIOS recognize the HD?
[10:28] <amandabee> intelligi, listen to tomlikestorock. Don't change anything but the boot order ...
[10:28] <orbin> Intelligi: read the text onscreen when you reboot.  it tells you what key to press to "enter setup"
[10:28] <billybennett> I know nothing about Reiser JeevesBond but I've heard good things :P
[10:28] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: Yes
[10:28] <tomlikestorock> what if he seais all the other options and gets option crazy in there.
[10:28] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: No problem with Windows or Suse
[10:28] <teppic> doc__: joye?
[10:28] <doc__> teppic: sais nvidia module not found in the gdm log message
[10:28] <tr1gg3r> FiNaLAlFa: reiserfs is usually faster i have never had any trouble with it
[10:29] <JeevesBond> It's very fast, I had it on my SuSE system.
[10:29] <teppic> doc__: terminal, modprobe nvidia (just to check)
[10:29] <JeevesBond> In it's early days reiser was a little unstable
[10:29] <teppic> doc__: Did you notice which kernel you're running when you booted?
[10:29] <JeevesBond> !reiserfs
[10:29] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[10:29] <AngryElf1> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, check your md5sums to make sure your ISO is in good shape, then try different versions
[10:29] <tr1gg3r> FiNaLAlFa: JeevesBond thats true suse does use reiser by default
[10:29] <doc__> teppic: hmmmm where do I notice that?
[10:29] <amandabee> I think I'm having the same problem as nekostar: I'm geting 403 forbidden errors for everything in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[10:29] <AngryElf1> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, the stock kernel should boot just about everything, if it still doesn't boot you should probably report your hardware configuration
[10:29] <teppic> doc__: grub at boot, it gives you a list of linux/kernels to boot...
[10:29] <JeevesBond> Yep, shame SuSE is a total pain in the butt to find packages for
[10:30] <tr1gg3r> :)
[10:30] <JeevesBond> apt-get is like a breath of fresh air for me!
[10:30] <doc__> brb starting darn screen
[10:30] <teppic> doc__: There's probably options for 2.6.15-25 and 2.6.15-23.
[10:30] <henster> alsamixer works as root but not otherwise. I have to set audio permissions right? How di I determine my device?
[10:30] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: I've tried Install Text version, Hoary version, Dapper... CD is ok
[10:30] <nekostar> got another mirror for repositories ?
[10:30] <FiNaLAlFa> Yes, I'm changing from suse as we speak, don't like it at all.
[10:30] <teppic> FiNaLAlFa: SuSE and RedHat do have a central flaw, namely rpm.
[10:30] <teppic> doc__: There's probably options for 2.6.15-25 and 2.6.15-23.
[10:31] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: My mb is an Asus P5AD2-Deluxe
[10:31] <orbin> mirrors: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:31] <doc__> teppic: modprobe nvidia => Module nvidia not found
[10:31] <alephant> ...getting lots of MD5Sum mismatch errors against us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <alephant> is there any known issue?
[10:31] <teppic> doc__: Well that's easy enough.  Give me two seconds to get the package name :-)
[10:31] <JeevesBond> There are some nice things. YaST could be useful. Wish ubuntu had a centralised control panel. Only problem with that being it messing with config files
[10:31] <doc__> teppic: I had pretty much problems with this before on a pristine live-cd install
[10:31] <Chows> I've been getting 404s on all my us.archive repositories :-(
[10:31] <chamo> hi
[10:31] <teppic> yep, it's the same problem - restricted modules.
[10:31] <JeevesBond> lol tomlikestorock
[10:31] <JeevesBond> hi chamo
[10:32] <gnomefreak> chamo: take us. out of the repos
[10:32] <gnomefreak> no
[10:32] <gnomefreak> Chows: take us. out of the repos
[10:32] <teppic> doc__: Good idea. /home if it's on a seperate partition.
[10:32] <Chows> will try thx
[10:32] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: How can I do?
[10:32] <nekostar> teppic, got another mirror ?
[10:32] <teppic> doc__: Are you running amd64?
[10:32] <nekostar> instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[10:32] <billybennett> Where is a good place to learn about typical terminal commands I need for daily computer use?
[10:32] <doc__> teppic: nope, xp3000 here, 32 bit
[10:33] <orbin> nekostar: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:33] <amandabee> billybennett, I like the O'Reilly LInux in a Nutshell Book
[10:33] <AngryElf1> ] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[, check your md5sums to make sure your ISO is in good shape
[10:33] <teppic> doc__: When you installed, did you install for 686 or 386 kernel?
[10:33] <nekostar> thanx orbin
[10:33] <chamo> anyone can see Internet TV with Linux ?
[10:33] <orbin> billybennett: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[10:33] <billybennett> hmmm I might have that amandabee thanks for the recommendation I'll go see if I do :P
[10:33] <doc__> teppic: gesh if I remembered, given the option I probably choose 686
[10:33] <orbin> billybennett: but yeah, a good book is best
[10:33] <tomlikestorock> Here's one: on my comp, it labels the temperature zones as tszv, tsz0, tsz1. How am I supposed to figure out which temp sensor is for what?
[10:33] <JeevesBond> Oh, nice one obrin
[10:33] <JeevesBond> errrr, orbin*
[10:33] <teppic> doc__: Right, apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[10:34] <amandabee> i was just going to say, or the ubuntu wiki has some good basics.
[10:34] <teppic> doc__: Find the entry for 2.6.15-25 for 686
[10:34] <Chows> did the trick, thanks gnomefreak
[10:34] <teppic> doc__: then install that.
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Chows: yw
[10:34] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: I've burn more CD and the same cd I've used to install ubuntu on other pc. Other pc installation ok
[10:34] <billybennett> Does anyone know how to search a Samba share?
[10:34] <AngryElf1> Don't knwo what to tell you...google
[10:35] <McScruff> billybennett, you could mount the share and search it
[10:35] <teppic> billybennett: Mount it and then from a terminal find . -name "[search here] "
[10:35] <billybennett> I've got a shortcut on the desktop but I dunno how to mount it
[10:35] <teppic> McScruff: Care to handle that one?
[10:35] <Eldox> hi
[10:35] <doc__> teppic: on it
[10:36] <nekostar> ha
[10:36] <billybennett> How would I go about mounting it?  Ive got a shortcut on my desktop that says Files with a SMB next to it
[10:36] <doc__> teppic: so I understand this right, I gotten hit by a kernel update, but I don't have the appropriate linux-restricted-module for it?
[10:36] <nekostar> oakland not working either ~_~
[10:36] <Alteisen> hi *
[10:36] <McScruff> teppic, i cant remember how to mount them
[10:36] <orbin> tomlikestorock: er, is that ubuntu related?  anyway, my guess is read the motherboard manual
[10:36] <FiNaLAlFa> I'm formatting the extended partition hda7 to ext3, after doing this, ubuntu doesn't recognise the format of the partition it created for itself.
[10:36] <teppic> doc__: Probably.  -25 has some screwy bits in it. :-/
[10:37] <doc__> teppic: so why's it pushed out to people automatically with the "please apply these updates by clicking on the icon"?
[10:37] <McScruff> anyone know why when i watch a wmv all apps show it too bright?
[10:37] <teppic> doc__: I'm currently ircing from a 5.10 live cd, with my dapper system chrooted in since 2.6.15-25 has completely screwed me over.
[10:37] <tomlikestorock> orbin: well, I dunno, I only noticed it in ubuntu ;) Guess that would be a good place to start. I'm at work, and just thought there might be some util or othe rway of inferring
[10:37] <FiNaLAlFa> nvm, restarting the proccess helped.
[10:37] <doc__> teppic: wonderfull
[10:37] <gdb> Does anyone know how to add a Trash folder to the desktop in Gnome?
[10:37] <green_earz> chamo:  use the xawtv app and get your self a Hauppauge  pci card
[10:37] <doc__> I can at least use mine for irssi
[10:37] <teppic> doc__: Well usually it works fine for 95% of the userbase.  This kernal update though seems to have had *many* problems with it.
[10:37] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: When installation stops on partition and ask me what hd I want partition no one hd is present
[10:37] <orbin> tomlikestorock: oh i see. where are you getting these tsz* values from?  bios?
[10:38] <orbin> FiNaLAlFa: doesn't recognise it where?
[10:38] <doc__> teppic: I can hear Mark not beeing happy ^^
[10:38] <billybennett> can someone explain to me how to mount shares?  I've got a shortcut on the desktop to my folders on my windows machine with a SMB in the icon but dunno anything else
[10:38] <green_earz> chamo: ebay for cheap   Hauppauge cards  to GO TV  card are perfect
[10:38] <Bassetts> dont suppose anyone in here knows where i could get a server, i want to admin it myself and i would like ubuntu on it
[10:38] <JeevesBond> sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator //tbs/c$ ~/windoze
[10:39] <billybennett> thanks JeevesBond
[10:39] <tomlikestorock> orbin: The gnome temperature applet reported them. I noticed it last night. I'm gonna check the bios and the manual when I get home.
[10:39] <JeevesBond> Is how mine looks billybenner
[10:39] <jrattner1> Bassetts, make one....
[10:39] <teppic> doc__: Many people not happy, seems to have hit 64 bit users more than everyone else though.
[10:39] <JeevesBond> LOL, errr. billybennett
[10:39] <atgaa> hi, I got (many) messages like this trying to update today - Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz 403 Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.15 80] 
[10:39] <teppic> doc__: Got the restricted?
[10:39] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: Can you help me?
[10:39] <Bassetts> jrattner1: i cant have it at home
[10:39] <McScruff> atgaa, try re-loading again
[10:39] <tomlikestorock> orbin: google results tell me that while tszv may seem like a video card temp sensor, naming conventions don't always reveal their true place in the comp
[10:39] <atgaa> apt-get update??
[10:39] <billybennett> JeevesBond, where does that show up in the filesystem?
[10:39] <McScruff> yep
[10:39] <orbin> atgaa: us mirror is down
[10:39] <jrattner1> Bassetts, depends if you want a TRUE server you could by one from like HP, or you could just use an old computer
[10:40] <orbin> apparently
[10:40] <doc__> teppic: just noticed with uname -a that I was going for 386, removed the 686 again and now putting the 386. afterwards modprobe nvidia should work right?
[10:40] <JeevesBond> And the first password is your password, the second the remote
[10:40] <FiNaLAlFa> orbin , when installing you get the partition manager, I created a partition, on step 6 you select what filesystem to use as what. but on that step the newly created file system didn't exist. but the problem is solved after a restart of the installed.
[10:40] <teppic> doc__: yep.
[10:40] <Chri[s] > Is there a way to do a reinstall of dapper with out losing my files ?
[10:40] <tomlikestorock> I was just surprised to see tha tthere were three sensors, not one like windows said
[10:40] <JeevesBond> billybennett: See the last argument? ~/windoze
[10:40] <Bassetts> jrattner1: i cant have it at my house though, i would like to rent it in a data server
[10:40] <JeevesBond> It's there
[10:40] <billybennett> ohh
[10:40] <ron_o> Chri[s] , kind of like in Windows?
[10:40] <doc__> teppic: ok modprobe isn't complaining this time. going to restart gdm
[10:40] <jrattner1> Bassetts, no clue then :)
[10:40] <JeevesBond> You don't have to call it something derogatory if you don't want :)
[10:40] <teppic> doc__: excellent....
[10:41] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> AngryElf1: are you there?
[10:41] <Bassetts> jrattner1: ok, my internet here is nowhere near fast enough anyway
[10:41] <QRZ> Bassetts:  How much are you willing to pay/month?  There are co-location facilities that will be happy to take your $$.
[10:41] <ron_o> Chri[s] , as far as I know the thing you must do is copy your home directory to another partition, reinstall the OS and then you won't lose anything. :)
[10:41] <ron_o> if there's a better way I don't know it.
[10:41] <Bassetts> QRZ: i dont know really i just want to look around and compare some places, as cheap as possible
[10:41] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> i can't install ubuntu on my desktop because it dosn't recognize hd ide. Anybody can help me?
[10:42] <atgaa> I can "browse the server
[10:42] <orbin> FiNaLAlFa: so it wasn't detected during install, but it's fine now?
[10:42] <Intelligi> Cool! The Live CD works, and Ubuntu looks great. I didn't even need to do anything special to get my wireless network working! I really like Ubuntu.
[10:42] <atgaa> apt-get update?? returns similar errors
[10:42] <Chri[s] > ron_o, yeah i think i put my /home on another partation already
[10:42] <tomlikestorock> Kamzata, your hd is the only one in the system? Is it set to single?
[10:42] <Intelligi> Does the Live CD have a IRC client?
[10:42] <JeevesBond> Glad to hear it Intelligi! :D
[10:42] <green_earz> Bassetts: what would be going on the server ?
[10:42] <jrattner1> Intelligi, use Gaim
[10:42] <QRZ> Bassetts:  Well, just for reference, about the cheapest co-lo I could find was approx. $60/month.
[10:42] <Intelligi> Gaim will connect to IRC?
[10:42] <tomlikestorock> Intelligi: Greate to hear it
[10:42] <jrattner1> Intelligi, i believe its on the live CD or BitchX from the command line
[10:43] <Chri[s] > What's the difference between Desktop, Server and Alternative?
[10:43] <jrattner1> Intelligi, yes it will
[10:43] <FiNaLAlFa> orbin, indeed it is. everything is fine now.
[10:43] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: Yes is the only one
[10:43] <ron_o> then you won't lose your important files, but you won't be able to save your apps you installed and other configurations..
[10:43] <Intelligi> ok, brb
[10:43] <billybennett> JeevesBond, I did sudo mount -t smbfs //shsc/f$ ~/windows and I get mount: mount point /home/william/windows does not exist
[10:43] <Bassetts> green_earz: maybe a ircd, some bots, mail server, just some things i can mess around with
[10:43] <jrattner1> billybennett, create the mount point then
[10:43] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: It is set as Master
[10:43] <tomlikestorock> kamzata, and marked as single. I assume you already have windows on this?
[10:43] <JeevesBond> You have to create the directory first billybennett
[10:44] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: Yes. I've install windows and suse with no problem
[10:44] <orbin> FiNaLAlFa: that's definitely weird.  maybe file a bug if you're dedicated.  so everything's fine, were ou were asking just out of curiosity?
[10:45] <ron_o> Chri[s] , just make sure when you do the reinstall that you don't format your new partition...
[10:45] <billybennett> JeevesBond,  sudo mount -t ntfs //shsc/f$ ~/windows
[10:45] <billybennett> mount: special device //shsc/f$ does not exist
[10:45] <Intelli2> Cool!
[10:45] <ron_o> just to make sure it's a good idea to have a backup of that partition, if you can.
[10:45] <tomlikestorock> kamzata: interesting...
[10:45] <JeevesBond> Ahhh, it's smbfs not ntfs
[10:45] <Chri[s] > good idea
[10:45] <Intelli2> I am using Linux!
[10:46] <JeevesBond> So am I!
[10:46] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: My mb is an Asus P5AD2-Deluxe
[10:46] <orbin> Intelli2: heh. someone's enjoying themselves
[10:46] <csma> peple
[10:46] <tomlikestorock> Intelli2: The question is... "Now what?"
[10:46] <ron_o> good for you Intelli2 .. :)
[10:46] <csma> how i enable or disable bluetooth interface on Ubuntu ?
[10:46] <ron_o> I hope just about everyone is using linux here. :)
[10:46] <orbin> tomlikestorock: install of course ;)
[10:46] <__doc_1> teppic: thx a bunch, got my gdm/x back
[10:46] <Intelli2> Well, I don't want to install Ubuntu on this computer (though it seems so easy I just might), but I didn't have enough RAM to run the Live CD on my other computer.
[10:46] <JeevesBond> You would hope so ron_o. Although a couple of trolls stopped over earlier
[10:47] <FiNaLAlFa> orbin , well, seem to me like their is a small problem. I manually configured partitions on step 5 of the installer, when pressing next it seems that ubuntu didn't reload the partition listing. so I had to restart the installer. Can't confirm the problem so I'm not going to file a bugreport. The last one I filed two weeks ago didn't get looked after yet anyway.
[10:47] <Intelli2> I still need to backup my hard drive on the other computer.
[10:47] <teppic> __doc_1: Excellent :-)
[10:47] <ron_o> Intelli2, you should try Xubuntu then. It uses less resources.
[10:47] <OneSeventeen> I just installed phppgadmin, so how do I access it?
[10:47] <__doc_1> teppic: I'll try to remember next time I say yes to a kernel update ^^
[10:47] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: Hd is Maxtor diamond 10
[10:47] <billybennett> JeevesBond, http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=18422
[10:47] <JeevesBond> Indeed, XFCE is a weapon of choice for many Linux lovers
[10:48] <Intelli2> My other computer has enough RAM for Ubuntu, just not enough for the Live CD.
[10:48] <markybob> anyone else having problems reaching us.archive.ubuntu.com ?  i keep getting 403
[10:48] <teppic> __doc_1: Hell, I said no and it still did it :-) Damn dependancies.
[10:48] <ron_o> JeevesBond, I'm using Xubuntu.
[10:48] <KevinIN72> how do i reset my sql database, like make is so there is nothing on it
[10:48] <teppic> markybob: yep, it's down.
[10:48] <orbin> markybob: yes.  bout the fifth person i've seen
[10:48] <tbaur> interest
[10:48] <teppic> markybob: You're the fourth/fifth person to mention it.
[10:48] <Spaceraverlinux> okay... i just confirmed that gnome desktop is fubar... with everything in it, nautilus, trash, and panel... have tried making another user, logging in as root adn im out of iedas
[10:48] <tomlikestorock> kam: so you can actually run the installer, it just doesn't report any ide at all
[10:48] <ron_o> it will probably work on as little as 90MHZ Pentium and 64MB ram if you're careful.
[10:48] <markybob> teppic,  someone might wanna add to topic, then :)
[10:49] <JeevesBond> I've seen this before billybennet
[10:49] <atgaa> where might I find a list of non-us repositories?
[10:49] <green_earz> Bassetts:  i would say set a box at home first to get a feel of the server and its adminstration  and what its bandwidth use could be. for a email server here a link for a postfix setup on debian >http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/  and you get use the firewalling the setup
[10:49] <tim> hello. can somebody tell me how to turn ACPI on and off?
[10:49] <JeevesBond> It's something simple. You might want to supply the username=blahblah bit
[10:49] <KevinIN72> anyone how do i set up mysql
[10:49] <ron_o> tim, you can do that on your boot parameters..
[10:49] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: exactly. When setup ask me how I want partition my hd no hd is present
[10:49] <tomlikestorock> tim: change your boot options to include noapic and acpi=no
[10:49] <orbin> !ops
[10:49] <Chri[s] > Failed to run disks-admin
[10:49] <Chri[s] > Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file, i keep getting this error when trying to access root privilege programs
[10:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[10:50] <sskk> My sudo had suddently stopped working when I connect through an ssh terminal - no errors it's just like all commands issued using sudo are being ignored. Any thoughts?
[10:50] <orbin> atgaa: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ???
[10:50] <Bassetts> green_earz: thanks, really dotn think my net would handle it though, its about 950k down and 150k up and has 3 pcs on it as it is
[10:50] <__doc__> teppic: so is there any release notes about the kernel update so I at least know what I suffered for? :D
[10:50] <atgaa> orbin, thanks
[10:50] <gnomefreak> orbin: ?
[10:50] <tim> thanks!
[10:50] <JeevesBond> KevinIN72 sudo apt-get install mysql (??)
[10:50] <tomlikestorock> tim: google just to be sure
[10:50] <orbin> gnomefreak: us mirror is down.  someone requested a topic change to reflect please
[10:50] <KevinIN72> JeevesBond: ok
[10:50] <HedgeMage> gnomefreak: any clue why we were summoned?
[10:50] <JeevesBond> Or search for it through Synaptic Package Manager
[10:50] <Chri[s] > hi
[10:50] <Spaceraverlinux> HedgeMage, have a moment?? okay... i just confirmed that gnome desktop is fubar... with everything in it, nautilus, trash, and panel... have tried making another user, logging in as root adn im out of iedas
[10:50] <OneSeventeen> has anyone here used phppgadmin from the Ubuntu repositories?
[10:51] <KevinIN72> JeevesBond: do you know the wiki page for lamp
[10:51] <KevinIN72> !lamp
[10:51] <gnomefreak> orbin: take the us out of the repos the !ops trigger is for emergence use only and abusing it will get you removed atleast
[10:51] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:51] <gnomefreak> HedgeMage: i got it
[10:51] <nalioth> orbin: may i suggest in the future you /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list  and find an active op that way?   !ops is for emergency use
[10:51] <JeevesBond> Nope, but the bot does ;)
[10:51] <orbin> oh ok. sorry guys
[10:51] <teppic> ubotu: Is mysql5 availible in Dapper outside of dotDeb?
[10:51] <ka0z> xD
[10:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about is mysql5 availible in dapper outside of dotdeb?
[10:52] <csma> ue
[10:52] <teppic> duh, it's a bot.
[10:52] <jrib> teppic: what do you mean?
[10:52] <JeevesBond> ubotu: You're a useless shunt aren't you
[10:52] <tomlikestorock> Kam: can you switch to a terminal and type in sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about you're a useless shunt aren't you
[10:52] <csma> ue
[10:52] <Spaceraverlinux> JeevesBond, please stop bothering the info
[10:52] <OneSeventeen> teppic: mysql-server-5.0 is officially supported, isn't it?
[10:52] <Spaceraverlinux> :D
[10:53] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: when installation is run?
[10:53] <JeevesBond> Sorry Spaceraverlinux. Couldn't resist it.
[10:53] <Spaceraverlinux> np JeevesBond
[10:53] <OneSeventeen> teppic: actually it is listed as "security": http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/mysql-server-5.0
[10:53] <Chri[s] > hi
[10:53] <gmon> help I have an grub error 22
[10:53] <tomlikestorock> Kam: Yeah. Alt-F1 or F2 to switch to a terminal. IIRC.
[10:53] <gmon> can't boot into linux
[10:53] <jrattner1> QUESTION: How can I make a request for a program to be in the repos
[10:54] <orbin> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU maybe
[10:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> First make sure its GPL-Complient License
[10:54] <jrattner1> it is
[10:54] <HedgeMage> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:54] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: how should be output?
[10:54] <tomlikestorock> just to see if any hda's are listed
[10:54] <dany> hi, when i do apt-get install linux-source; apt-get install kernel-package; where does the source code get put into???
[10:54] <gnomefreak> HedgeMage: anytime ty for all your help in -ops
[10:55] <tomlikestorock> there should be a table of partitions
[10:55] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: sorry but now i can't try
[10:55] <tomlikestorock> ah
[10:55] <orbin> dany: dpkg -L <package> tells you what was installed
[10:55] <SwampYankee> anybody else getting 403 Forbidden on apt-update?
[10:55] <gmon> can't boot into linux
[10:55] <gmon> help I have an grub error 22
[10:56] <dsforsaken> i get a wierd error, whenever i use sudo it spits out:   timestamp too far into the future
[10:56] <tomlikestorock> Kam: Is there anything installed on the hard drive as of right now?
[10:56] <dany> ahh...thanks orbin!
[10:56] <HedgeMage> gnomefreak: thank nalioth, I was just the scary-looking backup ;)
[10:56] <orbin> SwampYankee: you using the us. mirror?  it;s down apparently.
[10:56] <nalioth> HedgeMage: NEVER!
[10:56] <dsforsaken> neone have ne ideas?
[10:56] <SwampYankee> yup,  no problem,   I'll wait it out
[10:57] <green_earz> Bassetts: i run a bittorent tracker and seeder on a throttled uplink of 125bits, the uplink is 250bits but on the torrent box i throttled it to 125bits and on the same server there is apache, which i have not setup a site yet. on a text web site there should be on problem
[10:57] <HedgeMage> orbin: I'm having probs with it too.
[10:57] <Intelli2> Ok, I've removed nearly all the porn on my computers, freeing about collectively about 10 gigs. I still need to remove important data from the other computer. I am so excited now, Ubuntu is great. I see no reason to even backup the OS now, just remove the last bit of important data.
[10:57] <ProN00b> somehow changing locale is buggy
[10:57] <] ] ] KaMZaTa[[[> tomlikestorock: Hd is formatted. Before was installed Suse 10.1
[10:57] <Bassetts> green_earz: but with a ircd and bots
[10:57] <JeevesBond> Wow, ubuntu made you get rid of all your porn?! Impressive :)
[10:58] <guard> is there a way to stop automating mounting of a partion on my HD. i have removed it from fstab yet i still see it
[10:58] <Intelli2> Yeah, it did!
[10:58] <orbin> HedgeMage: that makes you the 7th person i've seen complaining so far f i can count correctly. :)
[10:58] <dsforsaken> can sumone help me with a sudo error? it says timestamp to far in the future
[10:58] <HedgeMage> hehe
[10:58] <mehdi_> hi, any one talking Farsi here
[10:58] <billybennett> Can someone help me figure out why I cannot Mount my NTFS windows drive through Samba?  http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=18422
[10:58] <tomlikestorock> Huh. Wonder if suse or the formatter of the drive did any wonkyness to it. I think this is beyond me, and I'm not finding much on the ubuntu forums or google, unfortunately :(
[10:58] <Bassetts> dsforsaken: i dont suppose your trying the firefox icon script?
[10:58] <billybennett> DONT DO THE FIREFOX ICON SCRIPT
[10:58] <Stork_> how can i set the permissions of a folder so that.. all the files in the folder are read only (except by root) but users can write files to the folder
[10:58] <dsforsaken> bassets: no it just happens everythime i use sudo
[10:58] <billybennett> trust me
[10:58] <billybennett> lol
[10:59] <Bassetts> billybennett: why not
[10:59] <dsforsaken> unless its part of automatix i dont have it
[10:59] <Bassetts> billybennett: theres a few on the forums, one works well
[10:59] <billybennett> it messed up lots of stuff for me
[10:59] <billybennett> I did the one that doesnt work well :P
[10:59] <dsforsaken> whats firefox icon script neways?
[10:59] <Bassetts> dsforsaken: i got the sudo message once, i just set the clock past the time it said in the error, then changed it back when i was done
[10:59] <billybennett> after I did it I saw the other one that seems to work good.. this one installed a new version of firefox and broke all my plugins that I finnaly got working
[11:00] <guard> exit
[11:00] <gnomefreak> billybennett: its easy to install ff
[11:00] <bit_doidao> hello all! im having troubles with using skype with amarok, or listen opened. I found some hijack_dsp_skype stuf, but i don't know how to compile or use it. Can anyone help-me?
[11:00] <billybennett> gnomefreak, I know its easy :)
[11:00] <JeevesBond> billybennett: Are you adding: " -o username=blahblah" to that line?
[11:00] <gmon> help I have an grub error 22
[11:01] <billybennett> yes JeevesBond
[11:01] <dsforsaken> Bassets: i kno that works but i want to have the regular time :P
[11:01] <JeevesBond> bit_doidao: I have problems with Skype too. Is it that Skype "locks" the soundcard?
[11:01] <dany> apt-get install linux-source; apt-get install kernel-package; are not what i wanted. how do get a dapper source code?? (i want to build a dapper kernel)
[11:01] <orbin> dsforsaken: it changes the blue ff icon to the 'original' one w/ the fox
[11:01] <JeevesBond> Because I'm certain it's an artifact of how Skype works
[11:01] <gmon> anyone can help me please?
[11:02] <gmon> I have an grub error 22
[11:02] <Ademan> is there a panel applet that IS a bash shell
[11:02] <Ademan> ?
[11:02] <bit_doidao> JeevesBond, i think is this. Skype use the old oss, and dominate the sound card....
[11:02] <dsforsaken> orbin: oh... lol who woulda thought a script to do that could mess things up lol
[11:02] <JeevesBond> billybennett: I know the problem!!!! It's backslashes not forward slashes in the UNC path!!!
[11:02] <billybennett> JeevesBond, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator //DELL/F$ ~/windows
[11:02] <bit_doidao> but they have a skype_dsp_hijack, that make a workaround for it
[11:03] <orbin> gmon: try ubuntuforums.org  unless we've experienced it, most of us don't really memorise grub error numbers :-/
[11:03] <JeevesBond> Yep, exactly bit_doidao, you know more about it than I do!
[11:03] <JeevesBond> billybennett change //DELL/F$ to \\DELL\F$
[11:03] <billybennett> oh
[11:03] <JeevesBond> And it'll work. I did exactly the same the other day!
[11:04] <billybennett> JeevesBond, nope
[11:04] <JeevesBond> That didn't work? Same error?
[11:04] <bit_doidao> JeevesBond, look at this: http://195.38.3.142:6502/skype/
[11:04] <dany> anybody knows where i can download a dapper kernel source code? is it available for download?
[11:05] <bit_doidao> Anyone had configured ekiga to work with a simple asterisk voip server? i was unable to configure it!
[11:05] <crimsun> dany: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[11:05] <billybennett> JeevesBond, do I need the SMBFS package from synaptic? :P
[11:05] <JeevesBond> Oh, pants. Sorry billybennett. I was wrong it is forward slashes
[11:05] <primlantah> i have a dualboot xp/ubuntu6.06 system and i would like to use hda1 for linux and dump windows.  is there anything special i need to do to grub once i format hda1?
[11:05] <JeevesBond> Heh, well maybe.
[11:05] <billybennett> JeevesBond, it says mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)
[11:06] <JeevesBond> I'm a bit of a n00b so you're guess is about as good as mine ;)
[11:06] <billybennett> hehe
[11:06] <dany> crimsun: that's the image?...i want to be able to build dapper kernel and boot it.
[11:06] <BCK> where should i go to configure shares that are on a network host?
[11:07] <csma> t-
[11:07] <JeevesBond> Thanks for that bit_doidao! Skype is so rubbish that I'll ditch it ASAP
[11:07] <BCK> i can only find the place to configure shares for my box
[11:07] <atgaa> thanks orbin, http://nl.{rest of url} worked fine as wine
[11:07] <JeevesBond> Speaking of which: Anyone know of a good replacement?
[11:07] <primlantah> i have a dualboot xp/ubuntu6.06 system and i would like to dump windows.  what do i need to so to make linux bootable if i format hda1?
[11:07] <crimsun> dany: then you'll need build-essential, devscripts, kernel-package, and initramfs-tools, too
[11:07] <orbin> atgaa: yw
[11:08] <billybennett> JeevesBond, I did need that
[11:08] <JeevesBond> Does it work?!
[11:08] <billybennett> JeevesBond, my final command was... sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password= //dell/f ~/windows
[11:08] <billybennett> yes JeevesBond
[11:08] <orbin> primlantah: if you installed grub to the mbr, it should be bootable after you format.  just remove windows from grub
[11:09] <JeevesBond> YAY! Am glad to hear that!! :D
[11:09] <BCK> billybennett: is that how you mount network drives?
[11:09] <dany> crimsun: i will those packages installed. do you happen to know where the actual source code are put into?
[11:09] <billybennett> BCK, yeah but you need the SMBFS package installed first
[11:09] <BCK> hmm ok
[11:09] <billybennett> BCK, I found that out the hard way :P
[11:09] <Niklas_E> Hi, is there any default login/password for cups when you tries to use the web interface?
[11:10] <BCK> well i can configure what i share cant find anything to configure shares from another host
[11:10] <KenSentMe> !tell BCK about samba
[11:10] <tomlikestorock> billybennet: can't you install avahi and have it detect it for you?
[11:10] <tomlikestorock> !tell tomlikestorock about avahi
[11:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about avahi
[11:10] <billybennett> tomlikestorock, I have no idea lol
[11:10] <BCK> KenSentMe: ty :D
[11:10] <JeevesBond> !avahi
[11:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about avahi
[11:10] <tomlikestorock> yeah
[11:10] <tomlikestorock> might want to check that out
[11:10] <tomlikestorock> http://avahi.org/
[11:11] <JeevesBond> Thanks tomlikestorock
[11:11] <csma> df
[11:11] <crimsun> dany: $(pwd)
[11:11] <csma> p
[11:11] <SurfnKid>  anyone konw how to use 'mc'
[11:11] <tomlikestorock> does appleShares stuff, too apparently
[11:13] <orbin> cheers crimsun
[11:15] <lerch> Hello. Can anybody tell me if it's possible to connect to an ftp server in nautilus running in active mode?
[11:16] <lerch> I'm refering to the "Connect to server..." option in the Gnome panel.
[11:17] <chrish01> anyone know what the sound setting gui is doing when you check/uncheck the "enable system beep"?
[11:17] <neotard> lerch:  ftp://<server address> ?
[11:17] <chrish01> i want to disable system beep on a ubuntu-server
[11:17] <dany> crimsun: the kernel source code gets put in my pwd (present working dir)? I don't see it...
[11:17] <crimsun> dany: did you ``apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)'' ?
[11:18] <dany> yes
[11:18] <crimsun> dany: you don't see the extracted dir and the source package?
[11:18] <dziengel> is anyone else getting a 403 when they try install software?
[11:18] <crimsun> dany: see the topic.
[11:18] <crimsun> dany: sorry
[11:18] <crimsun> dziengel: see the topic
[11:18] <crimsun> (very last part of the topic)
[11:18] <dziengel> sorry......thanks
[11:19] <Intelli2> I still wanna back up my hard drive, just in case. What would be a good program to do that with? My only real options are either to put the backup on CD-Rs, or shrink it enough and send it to this computer.
[11:19] <dany> crimsun: i'm trying it again.
[11:20] <ardchoille> Intelli2: you might wanna have a look into partimage
[11:20] <matthew_w> Hey guys
[11:20] <matthew_w> Is there a way I can log into another machine on my network and perform operations on it?
[11:20] <matthew_w> As root?
[11:20] <Xappe> hmm, my serpentine wont start burning mp3:s to audio cd when clicking "write to disc". This is the error in terminal when clicking on the button: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16217
[11:20] <apokryphos> matthew_w: yes, you can use ssh
[11:20] <apokryphos> !ssh
[11:20] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto. Putty is a nice windows ssh client, see http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:20] <BCK> ive setup a share with the shared folders tool, yet on the winblows box its asking for username and password
[11:20] <SurfnKid> apokryphos: do you know mc?
[11:20] <apokryphos> not really
[11:21] <SurfnKid> ok
[11:21] <BCK> yet i picked to allow users to browse folders
[11:21] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to use Midnight Command
[11:21] <SurfnKid> er
[11:21] <rixxon> BCK: use something random :P
[11:21] <BCK> huh ? :P
[11:22] <rixxon> BCK: just type foo as username and bar as password ;P
[11:22] <orbin> Xappe: gee, they couldn't have made a more cryptic error for users could they?
[11:22] <BCK> ok
[11:22] <BCK> lets see
[11:22] <Xappe> orbin: no ;)
[11:22] <rixxon> BCK: worth a shot anyway
[11:22] <rixxon> BCK: sometimes works for me
[11:22] <BCK> didnt work :P
[11:22] <rixxon> aoh
[11:22] <Intelli2> What is partimage?
[11:22] <soundray> !info partimage
[11:22] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[11:23] <Intelli2> How much is the compression?
[11:23] <rixxon> Intelli2: i guess that sorta depends on how compressable the data is? :P
[11:23] <Intelli2> True. Does the program support burning onto CD-Rs?
[11:24] <EmprCezar> Hello. I'm getting 403 forbidden when trying to apt get gftp. It's trying to fetch from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gftp/
[11:24] <soundray> Intelli2: no, but you can split the image in chunks that fit.
[11:24] <crimsun> EmprCezar: please see the topic.
[11:24] <Intelli2> If it a windows program?
[11:24] <Intelli2> Cause I need a windows program first.
[11:24] <Intelli2> *Isit
[11:25] <soundray> Intelli2: it may run in Cygwin, I don't know.
[11:25] <JeevesBond> EmprCezar: the US mirrors are down
[11:25] <Intelli2> I haven't actually installed Ubuntu yet.
[11:25] <JeevesBond> Try taking the US off the URL - I think that works
[11:25] <Intelli2> I'm just running the Live Cd on a computer I don't plan to actually install it on (yet).
[11:26] <green_earz> dany:  i have a main drive with the OS on it and a slave drive i backup to. what i  backup is the /etc/  and /var/lib/dpkg/   for the package list and  /home .  the program is use rsnapshot
[11:26] <soundray> Intelli2: you can boot the live CD on the computer you're installing and save the partimage images to a USB drive.
[11:27] <Intelli2> Don't have enough RAM for the live CD on the other computer.
[11:27] <Intelli2> I'll find a way, don't worry about it.
[11:27] <Intelli2> Thanks guys.
[11:27] <Intelli2> Later.
[11:28] <udo> what is alsaconf?
[11:28] <soundray> !info alsaconf
[11:28] <ubotu> Package alsaconf does not exist in dapper
[11:28] <soundray> !find alsaconf
[11:28] <ubotu> No packages matching 'alsaconf' could be found
[11:28] <crimsun> udo: it's a legacy config tool. We don't ship it with alsa-utils.
[11:28] <matthew_w> Hey, for some reason, I'm here in the ssh tutorial, but I can't log into these hostnames etc... what's going on?
[11:29] <ZeZu> is us.archive broke ?
[11:29] <crimsun> ZeZu: read the topic.
[11:29] <ZeZu> ah
[11:29] <udo> in my dapper i can use it is says it doesnt exist
[11:29] <crimsun> udo: that's because we don't include alsaconf. Why do you need it?
[11:30] <udo> i want to now if dapper detect my card
[11:30] <BIAF> anyone know what would be best hosting panel for easy setup, ISPConfig or Webmin?
[11:30] <crimsun> udo: then ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[11:30] <b166er> Just installed dapper, my nvidia card gave me problem , so i had to reinstall, now i see that my 'nvidia driver' in 'device' in the xorg.conf, is 'vesa' by default after install , can someone help ??
[11:30] <ZeZu> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:31] <matthew_w> It keeps telling me the passwords are wrong in ssh
[11:31] <crimsun> ZeZu: clean && update
[11:31] <matthew_w> I don't know why, I'm using my user pass from the compute,r .. X_X
[11:32] <ZeZu> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:32] <ZeZu> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:32] <ZeZu> same thing
[11:32] <crimsun> ZeZu: works here.
[11:32] <billybennett> what do I need to unzip through Nautilus
[11:32] <ZeZu> how very helpfull
[11:32] <crimsun> ZeZu: try se.archive?
[11:32] <ZeZu> oh well seems to use another one
[11:33] <LjL> ZeZu: yeah, try an european archive
[11:33] <laboratorio_> hi.!!!
[11:33] <doubler> which is the italian help channel for ubuntu?
[11:33] <crimsun> !it
[11:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:33] <ZeZu> i get way better speeds from sites in usa
[11:33] <ZeZu> 800kb/s+
[11:33] <billybennett> what do I need to unzip through Nautilus???
[11:33] <udo> crimsun i think the problem is the irq for my sound card
[11:33] <LjL> doubler: though there's many more people here; if you know some english, you might want to try asking here
[11:34] <b166er> !vesa
[11:34] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[11:34] <b166er> !x
[11:34] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:34] <crimsun> udo: what's the output from that cat command?
[11:34] <crimsun> udo: use pastebin
[11:34] <tim> hello, can anybody help me with an overheating problem? im running at 63 at idel. shuts down when i put a marginal load to work
[11:34] <udo> crimsun it says VIA 8237 with AD1888 at 0xe400, irq 201
[11:34] <doubler> i want to install the new version of firefox on my ubuntu. I have downloaded the .tar archive, but now wthat i have to do? :D
[11:34] <dany> green_earz: sorry, i don't follow what you said about rsnapshot.
[11:34] <LjL> ZeZu: well, apparently at the moment you're getting *zero* speed from them, or not ;)
[11:34] <crimsun> udo: are you trying to use the onboard?
[11:35] <crimsun> dany: did you find the extracted Linux source?
[11:35] <apokryphos> doubler: follow the instructions at /msg uboutu firefox
[11:35] <LjL> doubler: what's wrong with the firefox 1.5 that's in ubuntu?
[11:35] <udo> crimsum this is the onboard sound card
[11:35] <crimsun> udo: right, and that's what you're trying to use, correct?
[11:35] <LjL> doubler: you really should avoid installing stuff from .tar.gz archives or .rpm, etc, if at all possible
[11:35] <udo> crimsun yes
[11:35] <crimsun> udo: Then it's detected fine. pastebin ``amixer''
[11:35] <dany> crimsun: it is still going.. ( i was doing apt-get -install- rather than apt-get -source-)
[11:35] <crimsun> dany: ah, ok.
[11:36] <green_earz> dany:  rsnapshot is the program that dose the backup > aptitude show rsnapshot   on a cron
[11:36] <udo> crimsun the problem is the irq
[11:36] <tim> hello, can anybody help me with an overheating problem? im running at 63 at idel. shuts down when i put a marginal load to work
[11:36] <udo> how can i change the irq settings?
[11:36] <udo> crimsun how can i change the irq settings?
[11:36] <doubler> mmm i have typed: "/msg ubuntu firefox" but there is no private msg
[11:36] <crimsun> udo: what's the problem with the irq?
[11:36] <LjL> !firefox
[11:36] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:36] <crimsun> udo: is sound inaudibleL
[11:37] <crimsun> udo: s/L/\?/
[11:37] <ZeZu> man, i think the source archive is the one working, b/c its taking a whole lot of time to setup g++
[11:37] <udo> yes
[11:37] <lerch> neotard: Sorry my late respond. ftp://<server address> works in passive mode, but It just sits there forever trying to connect to a server requiring active mode.
[11:37] <udo> crimsun yes
[11:37] <crimsun> udo: that's not necessarily an irq problem. Please pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[11:37] <udo> crimsun i dont hear any sound this is the problem
[11:37] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:38] <udo> crimsun how can i change the irq settings
[11:38] <crimsun> udo: if you don't hear sound, it's often a mixer setting
[11:38] <crimsun> udo: very rarely is it an irq issue
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> does anyone have a dell inspiron with i810 videocard and can get a resolution higher than 1024*768 ?
[11:38] <LjL> doubler: perhaps try looking at this part first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#head-a14697a00e2bbd64f4d6ee098d69e97b5209ad44  --- it sounds easier
[11:38] <mikearthur> how do I enable BCF fonts in Ubuntu?
[11:38] <doubler> ok thanks
[11:38] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: I use 915resolution with this i915GM
[11:38] <FiNaLAlFa> where do I see if I have 3D acceleration?
[11:39] <crimsun> FiNaLAlFa: glxinfo |grep direct
[11:39] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, and what rso can you get ?
[11:39] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: the laptop's native is 1024x768, but I'm using 1280x1024 on an external atm.
[11:39] <crimsun> it can drive 1920x1440
[11:40] <green_earz> udo: check to see what drive you need at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/   just in case it not the right driver
[11:40] <matthew_w> Here's a quick question
[11:40] <matthew_w> Can you mount a network drive?
[11:40] <crimsun> green_earz: it's the correct driver
[11:40] <udo> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16219
[11:40] <matthew_w> IE: can I mount my computer's /dev/hda on a computer in the living room in a folder on it's desktop?
[11:40] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, so the default screen of laptop can't have higher reso than 1024*768 ?
[11:41] <crimsun> udo: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[11:41] <Jowi> how can I change the console/vt resolution or font?
[11:41] <green_earz> crimsun: ok and are you in the audio group   : command to find out   groups
[11:41] <mikearthur> how do I enable BCF fonts in Ubuntu?
[11:42] <crimsun> green_earz: (you meant that for udo, and his user is, else he would have received an error with amixer)
[11:42] <green_earz> sorry
[11:42] <blenda> hi! i recently upgraded breezy -> dapper and now mozilla won't find my search engines located in ~/.mozilla/firefox/XXX.default/search/. why is that?
[11:42] <green_earz> udo:  ok and are you in the audio group   : command to find out   groups
[11:42] <Centaur5> How can I make it so my user always has permissions to a folder even after a partition is mounted to it?
[11:42] <crimsun> udo: after you execute that set command, try ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[11:43] <mindspit> hallo all!
[11:43] <Flippy209> hallo
[11:43] <mindspit> can i force kerry beagle search to rescan directories again for new stuff?
[11:43] <mindspit> it does not find anything under /media/hdd1(hard disk using fat32) i have
[11:43] <tim> hello, can anybody help me with an overheating problem? im running at 63 at idel. shuts down when i put a marginal load to work
[11:43] <KevinIN72> can anyone help i am having trouble with sudo mysql -u root, it says access denied
[11:43] <Low_E> hello, noob here, may i pose question?
[11:44] <ardchoille> Jowi: have a look at the second post on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169625&highlight=vga%3D791
[11:44] <ardchoille> Jowi: That is what I did yesterday and it worked great
[11:44] <Low_E> which steps to add new users in ubuntu-server?
[11:45] <Low_E> or where can i find info about this
[11:45] <green_earz> tim:  is the power supplie unit blowing air out ?
[11:45] <Low_E> allready googled but not found yet
[11:45] <tim> :green_earz im running a laptop
[11:46] <Jowi> ardchoille: ah, of course. how stupid of me. I was just playing around with the framebuffer for another reason. cheers!
[11:46] <ardchoille> Jowi: np :)
[11:46] <tim> green_earz: im running a laptop
[11:47] <synap> ok
[11:47] <synap> this is the weirdest thing happened to me
[11:47] <synap> I rebooted
[11:47] <synap> did log in
[11:47] <QRZ> Low_E:  try, 'sudo useradd' at the command prompt. ('man useradd' for more info)
[11:47] <synap> and from now on it starts xfce
[11:47] <synap> instaed of gnome
[11:47] <green_earz> tim:   can you see any thing with the command top thats using a lot of menory ?
[11:48] <synap> can anyone tell me which config file stores the different sessions ?
[11:48] <Warbo> Did you choose XFCE without realising (and set it to default)?
[11:48] <synap> very unlikely
[11:48] <Low_E> QRZ, tried that and it did something but I must have made an error with the further syntaxis of useradd
[11:48] <synap> anyway, because of my laptop screen, X misses a part of the screen until gnome has started
[11:49] <KevinIN72> how do i remove mysql than reinstall it
[11:49] <Warbo> synap: You should be able to reset it to GNOME by choosing GNOME in the login window then making it default (it should ask if it is not already)
[11:49] <synap> so it's hard to change the config from the gui :)
[11:49] <synap> so I was wondering where it is stored
[11:49] <Low_E> do I have to make goups and homedirectory before using command useradd?
[11:49] <bartmaniac> hello, Can someone take a look at my logfile on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16220 ? Take a look at the time difference between lines 290-291  ? After I log in with my username and password (gnome) everthing stops for some minutes and then continues? What is going wrong?
[11:49] <tim> green_earz: opera is using 64, next biggest is gonme-panel on 17 so nothing hogging
[11:49] <Warbo> synap: I know the sessions are in /usr/share/xsessions and the config is most probably in your home (as a hidden file)
[11:50] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, so the default screen of laptop can't have higher reso than 1024*768 ?
[11:50] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: on this machine, correct
[11:50] <Warbo> synap: ~/.xsession or something (I will check)
[11:50] <synap> Ok, please check
[11:50] <synap> thanks for your time btw
[11:50] <synap> much appreciated
[11:50] <distanceisdeath> whats a downloadable browser that start ups really fast? faster than mozilla
[11:50] <QRZ> Low_E:  As I recall, simply typing, "sudo useradd" at the command prompt will start the interactive command line tool, which prompts you for the necessary info.  Sees pretty straight-forward.
[11:50] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: I installed 915resolution, edited /etc/default/915resolution, restarted 915resolution, and restarted gdm
[11:50] <Low_E> ok, let's try that
[11:50] <fernando_> Hey, I have probably a  trivial problem with sound card CS4236 and Dapper
[11:51] <crimsun> fernando_: does it involve "not loading"?
[11:51] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, i'm sorry but i don't understand, do you have a higher rso than 1024*768 with the screen of your laptop ?
[11:51] <QRZ> Low_E:  Sorry... it's, 'sudo adduser', not, 'useradd' (I always get the two mixed up)
[11:52] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: no, I can't.
[11:52] <Low_E> is not so straight forward for someone who does not speak English, .. all that is happening is kindoff MAN USERADD
[11:52] <Low_E> ah thereis difference?
[11:52] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: the highest it will support is 1024x768.
[11:52] <udo> crimsun how can i change the irq settings for my sound card
[11:52] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, k :( so i can uninstall 915reso :/
[11:52] <Warbo> synap: Hmm. It looks like I have a .xsession-errors file and a .Xauthority but that is all that looks relevant (I have also checked in .gnome2 for a GDM config)
[11:52] <crimsun> Sp4rKy: to use an /external/ lcd, I have to use 915resolution, else it's stuck at 640x480
[11:52] <gavagai> there is lightning RIGHT OUTSIDE my window
[11:52] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, k
[11:52] <gavagai> wicked
[11:53] <synap> warbo yeah same for me, argh ;)
[11:53] <udo> crimsun it says irq 201
[11:53] <crimsun> udo: what happened with: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0    ?
[11:53] <wetland> tim: is the laptop a dell?
[11:53] <crimsun> udo: that's fine.
[11:53] <fernando_> Sound does not work overall. If you mean having added in /ect/modules the line snd-cs4236 .... I did it. It worked with the previous release. Logs tell: snd_cs4236: Unknown symbol snd_card_disconnect
[11:53] <QRZ> Low_E:  Your English is fine! :-)  Yeah, try, 'sudo adduser' and it should prompt you for the necessary info to create a new user account.
[11:54] <udo> crimsun nothing matter
[11:54] <Warbo> synap: If you can'r reach the "Session" button due to screen size have you tried pressing ctrl-alt-+ (on NumPad) to zoom in then scroll across to the button (it may fit with a smaller resolution)
[11:54] <tim> wetland: no HP zd7200
[11:54] <synap> hmms let me try that
[11:54] <crimsun> fernando_: pastebin ``uname -r && modinfo snd && dmesg''
[11:55] <crimsun> udo: what does "nothing matter" mean?
[11:55] <udo> crimsun nothing happen
[11:55] <BIAF> any fast way to switch my user to root/admin so i can get rights to write to folders via gui?
[11:55] <Warbo> BIAF: Use gksudo nautilus
[11:55] <Warbo> BIAF: You could add that to a menu entry with Alacarte if you want
[11:55] <crimsun> udo: so what's the output from: amixer get 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
[11:55] <green_earz> tim: use the command       ps auwx   it give you more detail  of what running and there useage just in case its a process that grabing the resause
[11:55] <Low_E> nice! thx
[11:56] <Low_E> i thought adduser and useradd did the same
[11:56] <BIAF> i just know sudo -s for command , but how do i log in as root into gui
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.291578]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry
[11:56] <synap> hmms
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.291862]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.292195]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_oss_device
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.292481]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_register_oss_device
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.292760]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_register_ioctl
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.293030]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_card_file_add
[11:56] <synap> well thanks for trouble
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.293307]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.293584]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_major
[11:56] <synap> i'll get to it
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.294025]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_device
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.294304]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.294581]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_unregister_ioctl
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.294958]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_card_file_remove
[11:56] <neotard> BIAF:  you cannot log in as root
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.295228]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_unregister
[11:56] <QRZ> Low_E:  Both can be used but adduser is easier.
[11:56] <Low_E> what is "room number"?
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.295515]  snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_register_device
[11:56] <fernando_> [   70.317989]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol snd_seq_device_new
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.318269]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol snd_timer_interrupt
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.318586]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol release_and_free_resource
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.318857]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol snd_hwdep_new
[11:57] <PORDO> Google knows what you ate for breakfast.
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.319221]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol snd_timer_new
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.319512]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[11:57] <Warbo> BIAF: You should not really log in a whole session as root, only use the application which you want to give root priviledges with gksudo instead
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.319965]  snd_opl3_lib: Unknown symbol snd_device_free
[11:57] <Warbo> !paste
[11:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.382675]  snd: Unknown parameter `device_mode'
[11:57] <green_earz> thats nice wallpaper
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.385535]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.385900]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry
[11:57] <udo> crimsun how can  i change port, irq, and dma for my sound card?
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.386230]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.386647]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.387021]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_ecards_limit
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.387420]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_oss_info_register
[11:57] <Flippy209> Warbo: FYI I never was able to get your instructions working yesterday.
[11:57] <neotard> omg
[11:57] <crimsun> udo: you don't need to
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.387718]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_device
[11:57] <fernando_> [   70.388000]  snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[11:57] <QRZ> Low_E:  It's just an informational field that might have come in handy in a school account environment.  You can safely ignore it.
[11:57] <tim> green_earz: nope nothing runing much over 2-3 percent
[11:57] <Warbo> Flippy209: Ah, I came back and missed you by, like, 10 seconds
[11:58] <green_earz> tim: is the kernel the standard 386 ?
[11:58] <Warbo> Flippy209: I am very new to ATI cards, so I would appreciate any work on the page (just log in to edit)
[11:58] <crimsun> udo: can you give me the output from: amixer get 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
[11:58] <udo> crimsum what is this command sudo modprobe snd-es18xx?
[11:58] <ohrenkrebs> hi !
[11:58] <green_earz> tim: uname -a
[11:58] <crimsun> udo: it loads the driver for hardware you don't have
[11:58] <Low_E> but I would like to use the server in a school envirement :) I am a professor, knowing nuts about linux
[11:58] <Low_E> want to learn
[11:59] <ohrenkrebs> maybe anyone can help me out with my wintv nova-s-plus and ubuntu ? i got video but no sound - i tried the newest cvs sources from v4l.
[11:59] <gavagai> Low_E, those things like "room number" aren't too useful unless you run "finger", which is a program that sort of lets users check each other out
[11:59] <Murrlin> slap me with a D'OH sign. just read the TOPIC murr!
[11:59] <Low_E> i c
[11:59] <tim> green_earz: yes standard 386
[11:59] <gavagai> most school environments don't use finger anymore though
[11:59] <QRZ> Low_E:  Then you would usually assign the user's 'homeroom' number to it.  Again, may or may not apply for your particular situation.  It's just an informational field.
[11:59] <Warbo> gavagai: That sounds sooooooo wrong :)
[12:00] <Flippy209> link your page again Warbo
[12:00] <gavagai> Warbo, fingering?  :)
[12:00] <Flippy209> I'll PM you with what I had troubles with