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| HedgeMage | awfully quiet in here... | 05:42 |
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| === bimberi watches a tumbleweed roll by | ||
| HedgeMage | heh | 05:47 |
| === Amaranth looks around | ||
| HedgeMage | hi Amaranth | 05:58 |
| Amaranth | hi | 06:02 |
| Amaranth | (late) | 06:02 |
| === Amaranth can't wait for the l-r-m to go with the 2.6.17 kernel | ||
| HedgeMage | l-r-m ? | 06:02 |
| Amaranth | i'm going to use it on dapper, it's supposed to have support for my card reader | 06:02 |
| Amaranth | linux-restricted-modules | 06:03 |
| HedgeMage | ahh | 06:03 |
| Amaranth | and maybe my laptop will hibernate correctly | 06:03 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 06:03 |
| Amaranth | my grandpa is so excited | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | i have him my mac mini | 06:05 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | it's running OS X, but that's because i know iPhoto works | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | and he takes a lot of pictures | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | he even got one of those expensive HP Photosmart printers | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | he was up about an hour later than normal playing with it :) | 06:06 |
| Amaranth | and he even let me sit in his chair in the living room :P | 06:06 |
| HedgeMage | hehe :) | 06:06 |
| === Yagisan hates mail servers that eat .tar.bz2 attachments | ||
| HedgeMage | :( | 06:12 |
| HedgeMage | bbl TT needs me | 06:12 |
| === Yagisan ignoring my TT | ||
| Yagisan | she doesn't need me to pick up her lego. That's her job | 06:13 |
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| Amaranth | TT? | 06:14 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: Terrible Two | 06:15 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: 2 year old child. Very difficult and stubbon | 06:15 |
| Amaranth | yes, i know that :P | 06:15 |
| Amaranth | but i dunno why they call it terrible two, they get worse as they get older | 06:16 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: you have kids yet ? | 06:16 |
| bimberi | yep, our oldest is 9 and is still difficult and stubborn | 06:16 |
| Amaranth | nope | 06:17 |
| Yagisan | I see it as practice for "teenager" | 06:17 |
| Amaranth | one of my older cousins does | 06:17 |
| Amaranth | he has 3 year old twins | 06:17 |
| Yagisan | ouch | 06:17 |
| Yagisan | -ENOSLEEP | 06:17 |
| Amaranth | they just keep saying "no!" and run around grabbing things whenever i see them | 06:18 |
| Yagisan | no more kids for me. I need sleep (and some money) | 06:18 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: mine say no! in two languages | 06:18 |
| Amaranth | haha | 06:18 |
| Amaranth | that reminds me | 06:18 |
| Amaranth | one of the primary schools here is going to teach spanish/english for the first 6 years of school | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | if you know english you learn spanish, if you know spanish you learn english | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | and by age 11 you know both equally | 06:19 |
| Yagisan | my kids will hate me | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | the get two difficult languages | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | s/the/they | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | with nothing in common | 06:21 |
| Amaranth | what two? | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | not even sentence order | 06:21 |
| Amaranth | spanish and english are pretty different two | 06:22 |
| Yagisan | English and Japanese () | 06:22 |
| Amaranth | different sentence order, different grammar rules, etc | 06:22 |
| Amaranth | Yagisan: heh | 06:22 |
| Amaranth | in japanese schools you learn english anyway, don't you? | 06:22 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: you do, but it's far from native | 06:23 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: and usually a Americanised version | 06:23 |
| HedgeMage | Close, Yagisan... Toddling Tornado... he's 3 :) | 06:23 |
| Yagisan | Amaranth: which is completely and utterly incorrect here | 06:24 |
| Yagisan | HedgeMage: oh, I though he was 2 | 06:24 |
| === Yagisan is getting Altzimers then | ||
| HedgeMage | lol | 06:24 |
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| HedgeMage | hiya cbx33 | 07:17 |
| HedgeMage | may I drop you a quick pm? | 07:17 |
| cbx33 | sure | 07:19 |
| HedgeMage | cbx33: see pm for a dumb question :) | 07:23 |
| cbx33 | bbl | 07:27 |
| HedgeMage | ok ttyl :) | 07:27 |
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| cbx33 | hey pygi | 09:16 |
| pygi | hey hey cbx33 | 09:16 |
| pygi | how are you? | 09:16 |
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| cbx33 | yeh I'm good | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | how are you? | 09:19 |
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| pygi | great I am :) | 09:20 |
| cbx33 | xcellent | 09:21 |
| cbx33 | pygi: Iwas talking to someone about gisomount | 09:21 |
| jsgotangco | good morning cbx33 | 09:21 |
| cbx33 | and they wanted to contribute | 09:21 |
| cbx33 | hi jsgotangco | 09:21 |
| pygi | cbx33, nice :) | 09:21 |
| cbx33 | which is great, they started breaking out functions to sepereate include files | 09:22 |
| cbx33 | but I don't really agree with some of the changes they made and wanted another opinion | 09:22 |
| pygi | well, you are the upstream :) | 09:22 |
| pygi | You decide what you want, really | 09:22 |
| pygi | your branch is main one, and you cherrypick what you think is appropriate | 09:23 |
| cbx33 | yeh I know that :p | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | but I wanted to know from someone with more experience what I should do | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | I want to make it as good as possible | 09:24 |
| pygi | what changes have they made if I might know? | 09:24 |
| cbx33 | well, it was all to do with moving functions to seperate files | 09:25 |
| cbx33 | which I am all for, though not knowing if it is necessary for gisomount | 09:25 |
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| pygi | If it's not big in scale, no need to separate it | 09:26 |
| pygi | but the organisation is always nice | 09:26 |
| cbx33 | sure, and as I tried to explain it's not finished yet | 09:27 |
| cbx33 | not even polished | 09:27 |
| pygi | :) | 09:32 |
| highvoltage | hey cbx33 | 09:55 |
| cbx33 | hi highvoltage | 09:56 |
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| cbx33 | how are you | 09:58 |
| highvoltage | i'm good thanks cbx33, have had little sleep this week, but it's been great :) | 09:59 |
| highvoltage | i hear you've been busy on gisomount and the rsync gui tool | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | hehe, have you been eavesdropping highvoltage ? ;-) | 10:00 |
| pygi | cbx33, o, rsync gui as well? :) | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | pygi: yes | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage: yes I've been busy | 10:03 |
| pygi | cbx33, you are advancing fast :P | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | not so much this week...was my wifes 21st birthday on tues | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | I was off work yesterday as well | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | but I'm gooing to get right back to work from today :D | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | pygi: I'm trying | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | how else am I going to get snapped up by Canonical :p | 10:03 |
| pygi | hehe :) | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | or anyone else for that matter | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | I want to leave this job | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | it is fast becoming unsatisfying | 10:04 |
| pygi | ah, well :-/ | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | and I need more money | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | it can't be that unsatisfying as you seem to get to work on Edubuntu a lot at work ;-) | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | not being greedy | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | but my wife \nd I want to buy a house... | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock: true | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | but I have other duties I'd rather not do | 10:05 |
| LaserJock | my problem is that I could probably get a job at Canonical if I wanted to, but I do like Chemistry | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | you're lucky LaserJock | 10:06 |
| === cbx33 would love the chance to work for Canonical | ||
| LaserJock | bah, I don't think it would be all that hard for you, if Canonical keeps going well | 10:06 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: yeah, at least your job gives you lot of time for other work :) | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage: it's true | 10:07 |
| highvoltage | but i can see how working for a school can be frustrating. i don't hink i would ever like to work for a school | 10:07 |
| cbx33 | but I'd like to dedicate 100% of my time to ubuntu instead of replacing keyboards that spoilt little ****'s qreck every 5 minutes | 10:07 |
| cbx33 | the vandalism is the most soul destroying | 10:07 |
| highvoltage | yeah, we have that in tuxlabs too, but you learn to get over it :) | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | it's so frustrating | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | these kids have everything they want.... | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | and yet they just can't seem to appreciate it | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | I'm fedup with helping at this level | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | I want to help on a larger scale | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | start program to role edubuntu out to all the shcools in the world :D | 10:09 |
| highvoltage | that's quite normal (for people who have everything not to appreciate it) | 10:09 |
| highvoltage | people who have very little tend to appreciate things more. | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | I knwo | 10:10 |
| jsgotangco | just don | 10:19 |
| jsgotangco | just don't expect too much or else you'll end up like someone | 10:19 |
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| pc22 | how can i remote my work-ubuntu from home? its in a lan? | 02:02 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 03:27 |
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| highvoltage | hi bddebian | 03:45 |
| highvoltage | where are you? | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Heya highvoltage | 03:46 |
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| cbx33 | hi highvoltage | 03:47 |
| bddebian | highvoltage: You mean what country? | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Heya cbx33 | 03:50 |
| cbx33 | hi bddebian | 03:52 |
| cbx33 | anyone tried gmailfs? | 04:02 |
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| cbx33 | afternoon pygi | 04:24 |
| pygi | hey cbx33 | 04:25 |
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| lucasvo | anybody know why we have EOG, Gqview and GthumbImageviewer installed on edubuntu? | 05:22 |
| lucasvo | They seem to do the same.] | 05:22 |
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| sebastian | Hi | 06:46 |
| sebastian | Edubuntu is rather nice | 06:46 |
| sebastian | so how are we going to get schools using that? | 06:46 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 06:47 |
| HedgeMage | Well, some already are :) | 06:47 |
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| HedgeMage | hi Seveas | 06:47 |
| sebastian | uhmmmmmmmm I got Ubuntu, KUbuntu, and Edubuntu | 06:47 |
| HedgeMage | sebastian: the Cookbook will be the ultimate beginner's guide, we've got some advocacy stuff getting put together :) | 06:47 |
| sebastian | it seems to me that Edubuntu is just Ubuntu, but with a differnet log in thing | 06:47 |
| sebastian | and Gnome splash screen | 06:48 |
| sebastian | and theme and icons and two rather nice backgrounds | 06:48 |
| sebastian | the cookbook what? | 06:48 |
| HedgeMage | it's a different selection of packages by default, and it has a fairly automagical LTSP setup in the installer | 06:48 |
| sebastian | are there any other differences? that I have not noticed? | 06:48 |
| sebastian | well I installed edubuntu-desktop | 06:49 |
| sebastian | so I got a set up thing for it some where? | 06:49 |
| HedgeMage | setup thing for??? | 06:49 |
| HedgeMage | once edubuntu-desktop is installed, it's there, it doesn't need extra setting up | 06:49 |
| Seveas | hi | 06:50 |
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| sebastian | what did you mean by automagical LTSP set up? | 06:50 |
| sebastian | LTSP means? | 06:50 |
| sebastian | Long term supopurt? | 06:50 |
| HedgeMage | sory | 06:50 |
| HedgeMage | LTSP is the Linux thin client project | 06:50 |
| sebastian | which does? | 06:50 |
| HedgeMage | it reduces the hardware you need: set up one good server with lots of RAM and let a bunch of thin client (computers with almost no software on them) connect to the server... everything runs on the server | 06:51 |
| HedgeMage | the thin clients have very low requirements | 06:52 |
| sebastian | Hedgehog you work for Ubuntu? | 06:52 |
| pygi | Hedgehog???? | 06:53 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, hey :) | 06:53 |
| sebastian | so edubuntu is easy for a school to set up on a network? | 06:54 |
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| HedgeMage | hi pygi | 06:55 |
| HedgeMage | sebastian: nope, I'm just a volunteer | 06:55 |
| HedgeMage | sebastian: yep :) | 06:55 |
| sebastian | woudl be great if the schools around here would use Edubuntu :) | 06:55 |
| HedgeMage | where's "here" for you? | 06:56 |
| sebastian | uhmmmmm near Bristol in England | 06:56 |
| sebastian | back at the time I think my primary school was rather good for computing | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | there are lots of English schools using Edubuntu I think | 06:57 |
| sebastian | ,but now well | 06:57 |
| sebastian | I expect it's just a Microsoft school | 06:57 |
| sebastian | like most places are Micrsooft place | 06:57 |
| sebastian | altough at the tmie when I was there yes they started using Microsoft, but I am talking about well the early 90's so | 06:57 |
| sebastian | I guess that was ok then | 06:57 |
| sebastian | as for my secondary school well the admins are morons I think | 06:58 |
| sebastian | as for college well | 06:58 |
| sebastian | the admins are morons for sure | 06:58 |
| sebastian | in fact I even went there before about trying to get them to install Firefox so on. and well the guy was like | 06:58 |
| sebastian | well we don't care, because we get paid to remove spyware | 06:58 |
| sebastian | that's the kind of thing he said | 06:59 |
| sebastian | which I think is discraceful | 06:59 |
| HedgeMage | :( | 06:59 |
| sebastian | loads of these network admins don't do their jobs properly at all hummmmmm | 06:59 |
| lucasvo | sebastian: at our school they say: The gov. pays us all the Hardware we need, Why switch to a thinclient environnment? | 07:00 |
| sebastian | Ubuntu is very good | 07:00 |
| sebastian | ,but | 07:00 |
| sebastian | people are so beeping ignorant | 07:00 |
| sebastian | hence why they don't use it | 07:00 |
| sebastian | and the more schools and companies so on using open source the better :) | 07:01 |
| sebastian | expesially schools | 07:01 |
| sebastian | more hope with the younger generation I think | 07:01 |
| sebastian | ,because if they like it. they will use at home | 07:01 |
| sebastian | where as the older generation use Microsoft, because that's what they are used to and have used for years | 07:02 |
| sebastian | where is your school lucasvo and how old are you? | 07:04 |
| lucasvo | sebastian: in zurich | 07:11 |
| lucasvo | sebastian: www.hopro.ch | 07:11 |
| lucasvo | I am 16 years old | 07:11 |
| sebastian | what country is that | 07:11 |
| sebastian | some wehre in Europe | 07:11 |
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| HedgeMage | hiya jsgotangco :) | 07:12 |
| jsgotangco | good evening HedgeMage | 07:13 |
| HedgeMage | jsgotangco: got my laptop back, I'm off of hubby's windoze box, and I got my CoC sig sorted :) | 07:13 |
| jsgotangco | oh nice | 07:13 |
| HedgeMage | jsgotangco: are you able to admit me to edubuntu-members now since I was voted in last meeting? | 07:13 |
| jsgotangco | hmmmm | 07:13 |
| jsgotangco | okay just confirmed with oli | 07:14 |
| HedgeMage | cool, I emailed him but I know he's busy in Paris | 07:15 |
| jsgotangco | he's just at my back | 07:15 |
| lucasvo | sebastian: switzerland :P | 07:15 |
| jsgotangco | busy? he's been like smoking for the rest of the sprint! | 07:15 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 07:15 |
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| HedgeMage | rofl | 07:15 |
| jsgotangco | HedgeMage: done | 07:16 |
| === jsgotangco wonders where highvoltage and LaserJock went | ||
| HedgeMage | I have no clue | 07:19 |
| HedgeMage | and thanks, btw | 07:19 |
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| HedgeMage | pontifex: connection problems? | 07:51 |
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| DaSkreech | Does Edubuntu dapper still rely on gstreamer0.8? | 08:55 |
| crimsun | no, it uses the ubuntu base that migrated to gstreamer0.10 | 08:58 |
| DaSkreech | I just did an update to dapper and after reboot the first thing it tries to update is gstreamer0.8 | 09:00 |
| DaSkreech | How can I get it to stop doing that? | 09:02 |
| popey | ooer | 09:02 |
| popey | HedgeMage: popey == pontifex | 09:02 |
| popey | strange he pung out and i didn't | 09:02 |
| HedgeMage | ah :) | 09:02 |
| DaSkreech | What version of Ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal ship with dapper? | 09:02 |
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| DaSkreech | And is it erribly worrying if Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal are not installed? | 09:03 |
| DaSkreech | HedgeMage: Stalker :) | 09:04 |
| HedgeMage | DaSkreech: I am everywhere! | 09:05 |
| HedgeMage | LOL | 09:05 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm Printers have been removed from the system menu? | 09:05 |
| HedgeMage | DaSkreech: Sysem --> Administration --> Printing | 09:07 |
| DaSkreech | HedgeMage: Doesn't exist on my system | 09:10 |
| DaSkreech | It did before the updae | 09:10 |
| DaSkreech | update | 09:10 |
| DaSkreech | where does apt keep the list of files that it grabs | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | when you press reload? | 09:17 |
| Amaranth | /var/cache/apt | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | Amaranth: not the debs | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | Oh wait that's cache/apt/archive | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | thanks :) | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | Amaranth: Can I just delete pkgcache.bin and apt will recreate it? | 09:18 |
| Amaranth | i dunno | 09:18 |
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| DaSkreech | Nope still doing it | 09:20 |
| popey | have you installed gstreamer 0.10? | 09:21 |
| DaSkreech | popey: Yeah | 09:25 |
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| DaSkreech | It's rhythmbox apparently | 09:27 |
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| cbx33 | gooooood evenin all | 09:58 |
| juliux | hi cbx33 | 09:58 |
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| juliux | wb cbx33 | 10:00 |
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| jsgotangco | hmmm | 10:02 |
| juliux | hi jsgotangco | 10:04 |
| jsgotangco | juliux: hey long time no see | 10:04 |
| juliux | jsgotangco, yes | 10:04 |
| juliux | jsgotangco, how are you? | 10:04 |
| jsgotangco | juliux: well im in paris with the rest of the edubuntu people for the developer summit | 10:05 |
| juliux | jsgotangco, greetings to all | 10:05 |
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| jsgotangco | what's keeping you busy? | 10:05 |
| juliux | that i am not in paris | 10:06 |
| juliux | and that i have to work with windows | 10:06 |
| jsgotangco | i dunno where they are at the moment, we're in the middle of nowhere in paris and the nearest village grocery closes at 6pm | 10:06 |
| juliux | hehe | 10:06 |
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| juliux | jsgotangco, hm the eurostar is to expansive for me to come on the weekend to paris | 10:09 |
| jsgotangco | well tomorrow is the last day | 10:10 |
| juliux | oh | 10:10 |
| juliux | ok tomorrow i have to work | 10:10 |
| jsgotangco | if you get the chance, try to come if not no worries | 10:10 |
| popey | is schooltool discussed here? | 10:10 |
| rodarvus | popey, Edubuntu is discussed here, but SchoolTool people frequent this channel | 10:11 |
| juliux | jsgotangco, no chance i have to test the windows install image tomorrow | 10:11 |
| jsgotangco | no worries there will always be one more chance in the future | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | popey, i think so | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | what's the prob | 10:22 |
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| RobinShepheard | hiya everybody | 10:45 |
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| Gadi | So, does anyone have an (edu)buntu server going with RAID5, an adaptec 2005S RAID controller, and dapper? | 11:15 |
| Gadi | kernel seems to like to panic on any newer version than hoary :( | 11:16 |
| Gadi | and, presumably the dpt_i2o bug was fixed in the latest kernel.... | 11:16 |
| ogra | Gadi, try asking fabbione in #ubuntu-devel, he is in the server team | 11:19 |
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| Gadi | ogra: thx, I figured you'd know the right people, but I thought it better to post here than #ltsp as it is less off topic | 11:22 |
| Gadi | ;) | 11:22 |
| ogra | :) | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 11:29 |
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