[12:03] <crimsun> LjL: that's a release-team decision, and both
[12:04] <LjL> crimsun: sure, i didn't mean "you" personally. "you" and "you" being the same word in english is sometimes a problem :)
[12:05] <LjL> reintroduction, even
[12:06] <Official_C> LjL: ii second
[12:07] <geneo93> its like anything else if you dont like it dont use it
[12:09] <DaSkreech> LjL: Funny in some Books they spell them differently to indicate the difference in meaning :)
[12:14] <reagleBRKLN> just upgraded to dapper! :)
[12:15] <MidMark> someone that can confirm http://launchpad.net/bugs/39444, see last comment!
[12:15] <reagleBRKLN> how do i turn off all the error codes in Konsole.. e.g., if I launch kate from knosole, i get debugger stuff on every button click in konsole
[12:15] <zahlerstreik> hey!
[12:15] <zahlerstreik> ive got a problem with dapper if anyone has a second
[12:16] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: appname 2>/dev/null
[12:16] <reagleBRKLN> trappist: yes, but i want it to be generic
[12:16] <zahlerstreik> I installed dapper 6.06 onto my laptop with ati graphics and the only output it gives me is through my seconday VGA plug
[12:16] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: I don't think that's possible
[12:16] <zahlerstreik> anyone have any ideas?
[12:16] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: you'd have to somehow tell the app(s) not to write to stderr
[12:16] <reagleBRKLN> trappist: are you Cistercian?
[12:17] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: no, not even catholic :)  I just like the beer
[12:17] <reagleBRKLN> trappist: i recalled turning off kde debugger info some other time... wonder why they released with all that turned on...?
[12:18] <reagleBRKLN> get too much junk like "QFile::open: No file name specified"
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> zahlerstreik, Go through your xorg.conf file..
[12:18] <trappist> reagleBRKLN: usually actual debug output is a WHOLE lot more verbose than what you normally get running an app from a console.  a lot of apps just have some hard-coded stderr output.
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> trappist, Best thing dont run it throught konsole.
[12:19] <trappist> right.
[12:19] <|lostbyte|> Do a alt + f2
[12:19] <trappist> or alt-space!
[12:19] <trappist> <3 katapult
[12:19] <mikearthur> anyone have any tips for improving Kubuntu fonts? Hopefully using BCF...
[12:19] <|lostbyte|> YEah !
[12:20] <mikearthur> or maybe that should be BCI
[12:21] <reagleBRKLN> |lostbyte|: i like konsole
[12:21] <reagleBRKLN> and its nice to type `kate foo.py` ;)
[12:21] <Official_C> so, can you believe bill gates has handed microsoft over to steve balmer?
[12:22] <mikearthur> he's still chairman
[12:22] <|lostbyte|> reagleBRKLN, me too..
[12:22] <Official_C> but balmer is CEO now right?
[12:22] <|lostbyte|> mikearthur, so does bci make it more smoother ?
[12:22] <LjL> didn't bill gates *get* into an official position in MS (i.e. CEO) just short time ago?
[12:22] <mikearthur> something like that
[12:22] <reagleBRKLN> |lostbyte|: then how do you deal with all the debug garbage -- didn't have that much in 3.5.2 with breezy
[12:22] <mikearthur> LjL: no
[12:23] <Official_C> steve balmer is a neanderthal
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> reagleBRKLN, its only with X programs..
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> so dont run x stuff through konsole.
[12:25] <reagleBRKLN> |lostbyte|: what's the alternative for (eg) opening files in current pwd in kate?
[12:26] <Official_C> can tar.gz files be for windows?
[12:26] <Official_C> or only linux
[12:26] <LjL> they absolutely can be used for windows, though they're way more common on linux
[12:26] <LjL> winzip and winrar can open them
[12:27] <gnomefreak> LjL: dependant on dependencies and the program no?
[12:28] <LjL> gnomefreak: wha?
[12:28] <MidMark> also zipgenius just to call a program free and not shareware
[12:28] <gnomefreak> LjL: if the tar.gz needs say libglib how is he gonna get that for windows?
[12:28] <ryanakca> wheres the "save session" option in KMenu?
[12:29] <LjL> gnomefreak: if the tar.gz needs libglib, it's linux program, and there's no way it can run on windows (easily)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: when you log out iirc
[12:29] <LjL> gnomefreak: but tar.gz is just a format (actually two format), what's *in* a .tar.gz file is an entirely different matter
[12:29] <MidMark> gnomefreak: use zipgenius
[12:29] <MidMark> for windows
[12:29] <gnomefreak> LjL: thats what i meant by dependant on the dependencies it needs
[12:29] <LjL> gnomefreak: you can put a windows program in a tar.gz, and it would be a perfectly valid .tar.gz, but of course you couldn't *run* that program on linux
[12:29] <gnomefreak> MidMark: i dont use windows
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> reagleBRKLN, Run kate from "run" and then use the -u switch to use the same instance..
[12:29] <gnomefreak> LjL: correct
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> That way ya dont get crape.
[12:30] <reagleBRKLN> |lostbyte|: and type in the whole path to the *.py file, no thanks!
[12:30] <LjL> gnomefreak: yeah but that's got nothing to do with .tar.gz.... you *can* still read its contents and extract it. then you just need to be able to handle whatever is in it
[12:30] <MidMark> gnomefreak: you have asked for something to open .tar.gz under windows? if not I've wrong
[12:30] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: nope... and even if it was, I don't want to log out... it saves session automaticly... but just to save session... in case I do something stupid and crash X (It happens a lot... especially when exiting high memory gl games)
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> reagleBRKLN, Not whole path.. from where you are in pwd just do kate -u file.py
[12:30] <gnomefreak> MidMark: no Official_C did
[12:31] <LjL> MidMark: thanks for the suggestion by the way, i don't use windows very often, but i'd have liked to have a free program for uncompressing stuff. will have a look at it
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: dont think there is one im not looking at it atm im in xfce
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> just install services for unix / cygwin or preferably colinux
[12:31] <MidMark> LjL: :)
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> LjL, 7zip is 100% free
[12:31] <ryanakca> kk..., ty
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> does all..
[12:32] <|lostbyte|> I belive it can unzip iso's too..
[12:32] <LjL> |lostbyte|: yup, but besides that i didn't like it too incredibly much at first glance, it's always good to know more alternatives
[12:32] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: I they cannot archive with rar
[12:32] <MidMark> also for zipgenius
[12:32] <Official_C> yeah, midmark, i had asked that
[12:32] <LjL> rar must probably be patented i believe
[12:32] <|lostbyte|> MidMark, you cant archiving is to buy the program, for rar that is.
[12:32] <LjL> i suppose that'd be why we have a rar-nonfree
[12:33] <MidMark> |lostbyte|: yes some patent I think stop free program to rar
[12:33] <|lostbyte|> Sad..
[12:33] <gnomefreak> MidMark: trails is all you get for rar unless you buy (for windows
[12:33] <LjL> not sadder than the MP3 thing, or many others
[12:33] <MidMark> Official_C: then use 7zip or zipgenius they are 100% free
[12:34] <gnomefreak> trials even
[12:34] <Official_C> k
[12:34] <LjL> anyway, solution: don't use RAR. yeah, i know, you'll have to open some rar at some day... but if people start realizing you can use something else that's not legally encumbered, they soon or later will
[12:34] <MidMark> LjL: of course but rar is stronger than zip
[12:34] <MidMark> I mean smaller file
[12:35] <LjL> gnomefreak: yeah they're unlimited time trials though i believe. they just give you a nag screen after some days. but they keep working
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> zip has compression levels too..
[12:35] <LjL> MidMark: then use bzip2, or whatever
[12:35] <gnomefreak> LjL: yep winrar is
[12:35] <Official_C> winrar does not even nag you
[12:35] <Official_C> winzip does
[12:35] <LjL> winrar does nag you after a while
[12:35] <gnomefreak> it does
[12:35] <word> how can you suppress errors? like if you try to rm a file that doesn't exist? how do you make it not show an error?
[12:35] <Official_C> really? ive been using it for 2 years and no nagging
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> 7zip : You dont know you have it.. :P..
[12:36] <gnomefreak> word: dont use rm on a file thats not there?
[12:36] <geneo93> kinda off topic here talking about windows apps
[12:36] <LjL> it's not very intrusive though, you can just hit "Esc". with WinZIP, they go to greater lengths, even exchanging the positions of "OK" "Close" buttons at random
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> word, The error is a goodthing..
[12:36] <LjL> geneo93: yeah, kinda. looks like tonight this channel's being mainly offtopic
[12:36] <Official_C> anyone else here using gaim for IRC chat?
[12:36] <word> not if it's in a shell script
[12:36] <geneo93> gain 2 beta 3 here
[12:36] <word> Official_C: I used to konversation is better
[12:36] <LjL> Official_C: perhaps you've used an older version that didn't have the nag screens
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> word, point.
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> just pass it to /dev/null
[12:37] <Official_C> its kinda sucks that when some one types my name, the message does not come up in a special color
[12:37] <LjL> pass *stderr* to /dev/null though, probably, rather than stdout
[12:37] <Official_C> is there a way to have that in gaim?
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> Official_C, xchat ?
[12:37] <Official_C> xchat??
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Official_C: i thought there was but i havent used it in forever :(
[12:38] <word> |lostbyte|: Ummmm yah sure....lol...what do you mean? #!/dev/null?
[12:38] <Official_C> im using Gaim on winxp right now
[12:38] <Official_C> also, when i type a partial name and hit tab, nothin happens
[12:38] <Official_C> other than those issues, its great
[12:38] <Ashex> you're asking for Gaim help on XP.....
[12:38] <LjL> word: means "blahblah >/dev/null", for redirecting standard output, or "blahblah 2>/dev/null", for redirecting standard error
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> word, no.. dude.. rm iamnotthere 2>/dev/null
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Official_C: check in the settings there should be highlighting and autocomplete
[12:39] <Ashex> something tells me you're in the wrong channel Official_C
[12:39] <Official_C> Ashex, yes i am....is that a problem??
[12:39] <Official_C> no, i dont believe i am sir
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Official_C: try #gaim or #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:39] <Ashex> just saying, you're less likely to get help here
[12:39] <LjL> Official_C: not for me, but you *might* have better luck trying in a more relevant channel
[12:39] <word> |lostbyte|:  LjL Ok thanks. :D
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> ;)
[12:40] <LjL> Official_C: i, for one, use KDE apps, so i'd not be very familiar with gaim or x-chat. #ubuntu people should be a little more i suppose
[12:40] <unix_infidel> how long has marillat been down, or did it change URLs?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> unix_infidel: using debian repos on ubuntu is not a good idea
[12:40] <gnomefreak> and last i heard they were working (yesterday)
[12:40] <unix_infidel> gnomefreak: works well enough, never had any problems.
[12:41] <Official_C> ok, thanks
[12:41] <gnomefreak> unix_infidel: its a good way to break things
[12:41] <gnomefreak> unix_infidel: its a warning its your pc do as you wish just letting you know
[12:42] <Official_C> gnomefreak: didn't even know there was a #gaim channel
[12:42] <Official_C> thanks
[12:42] <unix_infidel> gnomefreak: like i said, that's the only package i use from debian and i know it can break a system.
[12:42] <unix_infidel> gnomefreak: what URL was working yesterday.
[12:42] <LjL> and like he said, it was just a warning. peace and love :)
[12:42] <gnomefreak> the one for w32codecfs i dont have it off hand
[12:42] <LjL> unix_infidel: can you hand me the url so i'd try it?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> -f
[12:43] <unix_infidel> ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat
[12:43] <LjL> unix_infidel: error
[12:43] <LjL> unix_infidel: there is no "debian-marillat" directory
[12:43] <gnomefreak> that doesnt look full eitehr
[12:43] <gnomefreak> either
[12:44] <LjL> what about this? http://mirror.eepis-its.edu/debian-marillat/
[12:44] <unix_infidel> LjL: i'm trying cipherfunk and sveas
[12:45] <gnomefreak> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/ seems to work
[12:45] <unix_infidel> btw, are there any other packages for gtk/gnome icons in a 3rd party repo?
[12:46] <unix_infidel> heh, now us.archive.ubuntu.com is hanging :P
[12:46] <gnomefreak> unix_infidel: get rid of the us.
[12:46] <gnomefreak> it should work fine than
[12:46] <LjL> Please use se.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com for now.
[12:46] <|lostbyte|> HAve a nice day, Its Goodnight for me.. cya tomm.. Bye
[12:46] <gnomefreak> most icons are at gnome-look.org
[12:47] <unix_infidel> gnomefreak: thanks.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> there isnt a "package" for them that im aware of
[12:47] <LjL> not many deb packages there though i'm afraid
[12:47] <unix_infidel> gtk-apps are much better looking with nonstandard icons :)
[12:48] <unix_infidel> eg: evolution, gvim :)
[12:49] <geneo93> i like the svg icons
[12:49] <gnomefreak> unix_infidel: installing gtk2 themes in the repos will give you all icons for different programs (if that make sense)
[12:49] <unix_infidel> gnomefreak: yea it does and i did.
[12:49] <Cooner750> Hello
[12:49] <unix_infidel> i'm wondering about 3rd party repos.
[12:49] <Cooner750> I want to know if it is possible to uninstall KDE and install Xfce
[12:49] <Cooner750> ?
[12:49] <LjL> Cooner750: installing xfce is easy, sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[12:50] <gnomefreak> i dont think there is i know seveas doesnt none of the ones on easysource have them
[12:50] <LjL> Cooner750: removing kde might be a little harder, but if you remove the main libs, almost everything will be removed
[12:51] <Ashex> so, i'm having some trouble extracting a rar file. Ark can't open it an unrar doesn't work
[12:51] <LjL> Ashex: are you using unrar-nonfree or just the plain unrar?
[12:51] <unix_infidel> Ashex: 7zip
[12:51] <Ashex> i downloaded it twice
[12:51] <imachine> hello.
[12:51] <Ashex> plain unrar
[12:51] <Cooner750> Ok
[12:51] <unix_infidel> ark should be able to.
[12:52] <Cooner750> Do I change it from the login manager?
[12:52] <Cooner750> (KDM)
[12:52] <LjL> Ashex: try nonfree then. the free one has a high failure rate
[12:52] <Cooner750> Session?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: yes
[12:52] <LjL> Cooner750: yes
[12:52] <LjL> !rar
[12:52] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:52] <Ashex> okay, I'll give it a shot
[12:53] <imachine> hi,
[12:54] <LjL> hi
[12:54] <imachine> there seems to be problems with the dvd install for x86
[12:55] <imachine> i was unable to make a successfull installation on a machine with more than one harddisk; installing on ide 2 master. referring to dapper here.
[12:55] <Ashex> LjL: i do have non-free installed...
[12:55] <imachine> thought it might be worth to put that information or at least investigate.
[12:56] <LjL> imachine: if that's reproducible, it's probably worth making a bug report
[12:56] <LjL> Ashex: what kind of errors does it give to you?
[12:58] <imachine> LjL, i don't know about that; but i believe it is. i tried a few times, gave up and unplugged the hd, making the hd2 as primary ide. worked smooth. also, the qt installer crashes when choosing xfs as the main partition.
[12:58] <imachine> i dont remember about reiser.
[12:58] <Ashex> !tell me about pastebin
[12:58] <imachine> i stuck with ext3 out of lack of choices ;)
[12:59] <imachine> LjL, i think the moment where lilo/grub is installed is somewhat unspecified.
[12:59] <LjL> imachine: that sounds like reproducible enough to me. about xfs, i wouldn't know
[12:59] <LjL> !bug
[12:59] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <Ashex> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16230
[12:59] <imachine> also, the breezy installer was a lot more verbose.
[12:59] <imachine> i miss that, can it be turned on on demend with dapper?
[12:59] <imachine> or is it aiming to be more 'user-friendly' eh ;)
[12:59] <LjL> imachine: yes, if you use the Alternate CD
[12:59] <LjL> imachine: don't know if there is a DVD version of that
[12:59] <imachine> alternate you say.
[12:59] <imachine> hmm.
[01:00] <imachine> well i liked the dvd, but i guess it's not much of a difference anyway.
[01:00] <imachine> LjL, is it listed in the main web page under the mirror list?
[01:00] <imachine> the alternate you speak of.
[01:00] <LjL> imachine: yeah, now you have the "Desktop" CD and the "Alternate" CD. which used to be, respectively, the "Live" CD and the "Install" CD
[01:00] <LjL> imachine: it is
[01:00] <imachine> i see.
[01:00] <imachine> great news.
[01:00] <imachine> thanks for that.
[01:01] <LjL> Ashex: hmm, tried simply renaming it so it doesn't have a double extension?
[01:01] <LjL> imachine: i've heard other reports suggesting that the alternate cd installer (i.e. the old plain text installer) can be more reliable than the new graphics installer
[01:02] <imachine> LjL, actually, i tried the old installer anyway from the dvd.
[01:02] <Ashex> renaming it? I've been enable to extract files with the same extensions
[01:02] <imachine> it too had issues with the two harddisks.
[01:02] <LjL> Ashex: .part1.rar?
[01:02] <Ashex> Yeah
[01:02] <Ashex> it's a split archive
[01:02] <LjL> hm can't the file simply be corrupt?
[01:02] <LjL> Ashex: failing everything else, couldn't you try winrar under wine?
[01:03] <Ashex> hmm, I'll give that a try
[01:03] <imachine> LjL, only the server install worked somewaht fine, however after logging into it, and performing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, it showed the same error upon reboot, that is panic cannot mount root vfs.
[01:03] <imachine> probably some lilo/grub crap.
[01:03] <imachine> that too did work with xfs.
[01:03] <imachine> which is cool
[01:03] <imachine> ;] 
[01:03] <LjL> guess so, it's probably changing hda2 into hda1 or something like that
[01:04] <LjL> probably fixable by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst, but still a serious bug sounds like
[01:04] <Ashex> LjL: I think I got it working, i re-downloaded it a third time and it appears to be extracting now
[01:05] <Ashex> I was using an application in wine to download them, so I guess that was screwing with it somehow
[01:06] <imachine> LjL, yes.
[01:09] <LjL> Ashex: could be, one never knows wine's mysteries well enough :)
[01:09] <Ashex> so, anyone know how to send a fax over the internet?
[01:10] <Ashex> I don't feel like paying kinkos to do it
[01:10] <LjL> hmm, i know free services to *receive* a fax, but not to send one
[01:10] <Ashex> Darn
[01:10] <LjL> although, don't you have a modem?
[01:10] <Ashex> I don't have a phone line
[01:10] <LjL> oh
[01:10] <Ashex> I have a cell phone!
[01:11] <geneo93> use skype then
[01:11] <Ashex> skype to send a fax?
[01:11] <LjL> Ashex: http://www.savetz.com/fax/
[01:11] <gumpo> A while ago i converted my Ubuntu 5.10 into Kubuntu - i recently tried using some of the KDE administrative tools, and it gives me error messages saying "conversation with su failed" when i enter my correct password. (all gnome applications accept it.) Anyone know who i can get around this? (sorry, i am very n00bish.)
[01:11] <LjL> gumpo: have you choosen to enable the root account, by any chance?
[01:12] <gumpo> No, i didnt think you could with Ubuntu.
[01:12] <LjL> Ashex: and i suppose your best bet would be http://www.tpc.int/
[01:13] <LjL> gumpo: you can, though i wouldn't advice doing that for a moment
[01:13] <Ashex> thanks LjL
[01:13] <gumpo> ...okay, id rather not ever do it, to tell the truth.
[01:14] <LjL> gumpo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116514   http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/60685-i-cant-change-anything.html   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75114.html
[01:14] <gumpo> Oooh, thanks. I'll read over that.
[01:15] <ryanakca> NETSPLIT!
[01:15] <LjL> apparently
[01:15] <Ashex> Hmm, if it accepts postscript but not pdf, would printing to file create a postscript file for me to load?
[01:15] <imachine> LjL, man, you are like full-time over here ;-)
[01:15] <steveire> !ipv^
[01:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about ipv^
[01:15] <LjL> imachine: not really, but when i am, i am ;-)
[01:16] <steveire> !ipv6
[01:16] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:16] <imachine> LjL, respect to your nerves of steel, i'd go crazy after 5 or 6 questions ;-)
[01:16] <AngryElf> !mp2
[01:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp2
[01:16] <AngryElf> !mp3
[01:16] <imachine> hmm, to disable, i'd like to enable ipv6 tho.
[01:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[01:16] <LjL> Ashex: i think it would, at least if you set your (non-existent) printer to postscript
[01:17] <LjL> Ashex: otherwise you could always use pdftops i suppose
[01:18] <AngryElf> ok, i'm beat, what package gets mp3s running?
[01:18] <LjL> AngryElf: read that page, it explains it all
[01:19] <AngryElf> LjL, i installed libxine-extracodecs, doesn't work
[01:20] <LjL> AngryElf: well then your problem's not finding the right package
[01:20] <AngryElf> ok, then what is?
[01:20] <LjL> AngryElf: are you using amarok to try playing? have you tried any other program?
[01:20] <LjL> do you have sound at all?
[01:20] <AngryElf> i dont want to use any other program
[01:20] <AngryElf> yes, sound is fine
[01:21] <LjL> i'm not telling you to, just trying to find where the problem lies.
[01:21] <LjL> try another program, such as kaffeine
[01:21] <AngryElf> ok, kaffeine works
[01:22] <LjL> ok then
[01:22] <Hhhhh> AngryElf, what program were you using before?
[01:22] <AngryElf> nm, i got it
[01:22] <LjL> amarok, settings, configure amarok, engine
[01:22] <LjL> do you have "alsa" selected as "output plugin"?
[01:22] <LjL> do you have "xine" selected as "sound system"?
[01:27] <imachine> so far i see one significant improvement in ubuntu compared vs fbsd - i get some sigmatel controls of the 3d audio chip on my aureal vortex
[01:27] <imachine> plus, there is no compilation times ;)
[01:28] <imachine> no mean to troll ofcourse, just expressing my cheer ;-)
[01:28] <LjL> imachine: you come from freebsd?
[01:28] <imachine> LjL, yes, i reckoned i'd try ubuntu for a change once 6 is out.
[01:29] <imachine> and now when it is, i did; and broke my fbsd hd with a grub install going wrong ;)
[01:29] <LjL> i think i ought to try freebsd out sometime
[01:29] <imachine> but oh well i'll fix it later.
[01:29] <imachine> check it out, it's a great OS not only for servers.
[01:29] <imachine> especially if you have x86 hardware. well, amd64 too for that matter but ;)
[01:29] <imachine> thats x86 with some kickups so.
[01:29] <imachine> ;)
[01:30] <LjL> i have plain x86. what would you say are some of its significant pros?
[01:30] <imachine> the only pita is the ports system with it's constant building and upgrading.
[01:30] <LjL> don't they have binary packages?
[01:30] <imachine> LjL, speed; stability; cleanness.
[01:30] <imachine> <3 man pages
[01:30] <imachine> LjL, they do, but not as configurable as with apt.
[01:30] <LjL> configurable in what sense?
[01:31] <imachine> prebuilt that is, and if you wish to build them with certain compile-time options, you have to build them from source.
[01:31] <AngryElf> I've added a second panel, and would like to move my System Tray to it...Move doens't work, and I tried adding it as an applet, but it's not listed in the list.....so where is it to add it to a new panel
[01:31] <LjL> well that's valid in ubuntu too though
[01:31] <imachine> LjL, well, you have dpkg-reconfigure
[01:31] <LjL> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't change compile-time options, it just changes config files
[01:31] <imachine> plus, the packages are built so that mostly its a matter of installing another package to add some capability.
[01:31] <LjL> binary packages are built with the compile options they're built with
[01:32] <imachine> well yes i suppose.
[01:32] <imachine> i havent used ubuntu for that long.
[01:32] <imachine> just on my laptop a while ago.
[01:32] <imachine> loonix is better there with its mad hardware support; tho i couldnt scale the cpu as well as with fbsd, it only went to two speeds with ubuntu and down to 150Mhz with fbsd.
[01:33] <imachine> (1600Mhz pentium4m)
[01:33] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[01:34] <imachine> LjL, what i like about fbsd is its documentation, i'm not fond of these 'faq's linux is full of.
[01:34] <imachine> they seem awfully improfessional in many cases.
[01:34] <Chicory> Hey, is there something about the macromedia-alternative Firefox plugin that I'm not aware of?
[01:34] <LjL> well, freebsd is one system, linux has a hundred or so different distributions
[01:34] <imachine> both worlds could join up forces on that subject ;-)
[01:34] <LjL> i think that might be part of the reason for that
[01:34] <imachine> LjL, indeed.
[01:34] <imachine> LjL, tho freebsd shares some of its documentation work with other bsds.
[01:35] <Chicory> I mean, I tried to install it ...
[01:35] <LjL> well, man pages are shared here too, mostly ;-)
[01:35] <imachine> due to their somewhat compatible structures, a few drivers get ported here and there.
[01:35] <imachine> LjL, plus, server wise, - pf.
[01:35] <imachine> i love pf.
[01:35] <imachine> :-)
[01:35] <LjL> pf?
[01:35] <imachine> packetfilter.
[01:36] <imachine> from OpenBSD.
[01:36] <LjL> oh
[01:36] <LjL> tell you what, i'll try a quick freebsd install in vmware right now
[01:36] <imachine> but thats a matter of choice and preference, im sure linux firewalls are well capable too :-)
[01:36] <imachine> do so.
[01:36] <imachine> i wont be around long tho since its 1.30 am over here.
[01:36] <unix_infidel> :(
[01:37] <LjL> unix_infidel: i don't have one
[01:37] <imachine> unix_infidel, you can try xen if you want to be all legite
[01:37] <imachine> ;)
[01:37] <LjL> i just installed vmware-player from multiverse
[01:37] <LjL> or
[01:37] <LjL> !qemu
[01:37] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:37] <unix_infidel> LjL: how do you get the images.
[01:37] <unix_infidel> xen and qemu are a joke.
[01:37] <garar> hi
[01:37] <LjL> unix_infidel: http://www.virtualization.info/2005/12/guide-to-create-vmx-files-for-vmware.html
[01:37] <LjL> unix_infidel: qemu is most definitely not a joke
[01:38] <unix_infidel> well, compared to vmware :P
[01:38] <LjL> by the way vmware server is free too (though not packaged in ubuntu)
[01:38] <imachine> unix_infidel, xen is a very good thing.
[01:38] <LjL> unix_infidel: do you know about...
[01:38] <LjL> !kqemu
[01:38] <ubotu> kqemu is a non-free kernel module for speeding up the QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu Se also !qvm86
[01:38] <unix_infidel> LjL: lol, its easier to priate.
[01:38] <imachine> unix_infidel, running linux inside of NetBSD.
[01:38] <unix_infidel> LjL: yea...i never used it though.
[01:38] <eXCeSS> use vmware
[01:38] <imachine> without massive slowdowns.
[01:38] <imachine> ;] 
[01:38] <eXCeSS> kqemu is seriously, soooooooooooooo slow
[01:38] <eXCeSS> like installing takes as longer than the microsoft clock says it should
[01:38] <unix_infidel> yea, like i said, its easier to pirate :P
[01:39] <imachine> well, its emu.
[01:39] <imachine> i still think xen is the better choice.
[01:39] <imachine> ;)
[01:39] <LjL> vmware is seriously, sooooo proprietary ;-) though kqemu is too in fairness
[01:39] <eXCeSS> vmware runs photoshop for me amazing
[01:39] <eXCeSS> i couldnt even tell the differnce from wheni had win installed
[01:39] <LjL> imachine: actually, with kqemu qemu is no more an emulator than vmware is, i think
[01:39] <sven_> Hi folks, I edited the fstab file in Kubuntu and now I can't use sudo to gain root access. What can I do ?
[01:39] <eXCeSS> working with 8x10 300dpi shitssss
[01:39] <LjL> (though both can and are called "emulators", but anyway)
[01:39] <unix_infidel> eXCeSS: how do save the psd and image files?
[01:39] <unix_infidel> locally to where you can use them later?
[01:40] <eXCeSS> i have them saved in there i upload them to the site i work on
[01:40] <LjL> sven_: you edited it like what?
[01:40] <imachine> LjL, still a bit slower i'd think.
[01:40] <eXCeSS> unix_infidel: i think you can set usb drives to work i haven't tried though
[01:40] <imachine> dunno tho.
[01:40] <imachine> LjL, i didnt do any serious testing.
[01:40] <eXCeSS> unix_infidel: ill try it now and report back
[01:40] <unix_infidel> eXCeSS: ahh, so you just export to a non virtual drive.
[01:40] <eXCeSS> mhm
[01:40] <unix_infidel> or a network share?
[01:40] <LjL> imachine: slower, probably, but no different (well not much) in theory. i was simply objecting to your "well, it's emu", it sounded like implying that vmware is not
[01:41] <imachine> LjL, ah yes.
[01:41] <imachine> ;] 
[01:41] <sven_> LjL_: I edited the /etc/fstab file by running visudo.
[01:41] <LjL> sven_: then you didn't edit fstab, you edited /etc/sudoers
[01:42] <imachine> yeah visudo shouldnt edit fstab ;)
[01:42] <imachine> if it does, something is seriously wrong there ;-)))
[01:42] <eXCeSS> unix_infidel: you can do shared folders which can do what i think you were asking
[01:43] <LjL> sven_: you probably messed up your /etc/sudoers file a bit. that files lists who has root access
[01:43] <unix_infidel> eXCeSS: local shared folders or network shares?
[01:43] <edu> hola   alguien sabe cmo poner aceleracin 3d con las ATI radeon en kubuntu dapper?
[01:43] <sven_> Oh, sorry. Anyway, now I can't do stuff that requires root access. What can I do?
[01:43] <eXCeSS> unix_infidel: it was an option in vmware and it works flawlessly
[01:43] <imachine> edu, try fglrx
[01:43] <edu> yes!
[01:43] <edu> but it don't work
[01:43] <eXCeSS> unix_infidel: you can save whatever file into a folder in your ext3 partitions
[01:43] <imachine> :(
[01:44] <edu> i mean
[01:44] <LjL> sven_: restore your /etc/sudoers to a workable state. but you need to be root to touch it, so you'll need to boot in rescue mode, or use a live cd
[01:44] <imachine> edu, i put my radeon on the shelf
[01:44] <edu> i installed it
[01:44] <imachine> and got a geforce
[01:44] <imachine> ;)
[01:44] <edu> my god
[01:44] <eXCeSS> unix_infidel: it pretends it on the 'network' but its just like a shared folder
[01:44] <edu> i'm very happy with my ati (when it's on windows, lol)
[01:44] <imachine> edu, yes, ati is nice.
[01:44] <imachine> but i was boned to use drm/dri
[01:44] <eXCeSS> edu: rofl me too
[01:44] <LjL> sven_: a reasonable /etc/sudoers file should look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16237
[01:44] <eXCeSS> edu: my new lappy is getting the nvidia treatment
[01:45] <imachine> and at the time, emulative linux-xorg libs inside of FreeBSD were old.
[01:45] <imachine> so it didnt support some cool stuff new drm/dri did.
[01:45] <edu> wow, so... the only solution is to put a nvidia card?
[01:45] <imachine> edu, no.
[01:45] <imachine> ofcourse not.
[01:45] <LjL> sven_: may i ask you why you run visudo anyway?
[01:45] <eXCeSS> edu: nope its just not as well supported
[01:45] <edu> yes, yes i know...
[01:45] <imachine> edu, but fglrx shoudl show some info
[01:45] <imachine> what's dmesg say ?
[01:46] <edu> hey, listen for my awful ati story
[01:46] <edu> i installed fglrx, and changed the xorg.conf as usually
[01:46] <edu> and the driver loaded, but... 3d direct acceleratioin never comes! :(
[01:46] <Ashex> anyone know how to setup an hp scanjet in linux?
[01:46] <imachine> what does glxinfo say ?
[01:47] <eXCeSS> anyone know how to make links from gaim open in firefox, i have it set as preferred in konqueror but konqueror is like HAHA FUCK YOU I NEED TO OPEN THIS LINK
[01:47] <edu> in ubuntu 5.10 it worked...
[01:47] <edu> it says
[01:47] <imachine> maybe there is some option you need to launch; like nvidia-glx-enable or something
[01:47] <edu> (wait a second)
[01:47] <sven_> LjL: I'm a bit new to Linux, and I wanted to gain root privilegies permanently.
[01:47] <imachine> sven_, sudo su
[01:47] <imachine> (but good luck breaking things later on ;))
[01:47] <imachine> (especially as you are new)
[01:47] <edu> edu@edu-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[01:47] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <LjL> sven_: i see. well, that would have been the wrong way to do it. and doing that is a bad idea anyway. and additionally, you just had a demonstration of what messing with root without really knowing what you're doing means.
[01:48] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <edu> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[01:48] <imachine> edu, what's xorg.log say ?
[01:48] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <LjL> imachine: rather "sudo -i"
[01:48] <edu> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:48] <edu> wops
[01:48] <edu> sorry for the big extension
[01:48] <imachine> LjL, maybe ;) i dont use sudo much
[01:48] <imachine> LjL, i know sudo su works so ;] 
[01:48] <edu> it could be said, that it don't load the dri for ati, or something like
[01:49] <LjL> "sudo -i" or "sudo -s". "sudo -i" puts you in a predictable root environment (with /root as home dir, and all), so it's very much preferred.
[01:49] <imachine> hmm
[01:49] <imachine> LjL, oh i see.
[01:49] <LjL> either is preferred to "sudo su", which is simply redundant
[01:49] <imachine> well that's nice.
[01:49] <edu> if i use glx, indirect rendering,it works, of course
[01:49] <imachine> edu, anything about GLX in the log ?
[01:49] <edu> nothing else
[01:50] <imachine> else?
[01:50] <imachine> else from what.
[01:50] <edu> i am downloading the binary installer, to see if i'm lucky, but with my 56k connection, it takes a lot of time lol
[01:50] <imachine> edu, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:50] <LjL> sven_: i suggest you boot into rescue mode and edit /etc/sudoers from there, making it look like the one i posted. hopefully you'll be able to log in from rescue mode. otherwise, use a live cd, mount your HD, and fix it from there
[01:50] <edu> nothing else important about glx
[01:50] <edu> well, sorry for my little english, hehehe
[01:51] <sven_> LjL_: Thanks a lot!
[01:51] <imachine> edu, it's okay man i've seen worse ;)
[01:52] <edu> oh, thanks hahaha
[01:52] <edu> so...
[01:52] <imachine> edu, so, what does that log say
[01:52] <edu> any idea about the ati big problem?
[01:52] <imachine> did you check it ?
[01:52] <edu> mhh
[01:52] <edu> where's that log?
[01:52] <imachine> 01:50 < imachine> edu, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:52] <MrBallZ> hi every1
[01:52] <edu> i simply look at the terminal with glxinfo | grep direct
[01:52] <edu> i'll see
[01:53] <imachine> edu, do as a i said, and look for some (EE) strings
[01:53] <imachine> or anything about glx
[01:53] <imachine> or ati
[01:53] <imachine> ;)
[01:53] <MrBallZ> I've been running kubuntu for a couple of weeks , really nice,  this on my laptop ... and I was wondering if I should try  XGL ??  , I have an nvidia card, and I have the nvidia drivers all set, and It looks great,  GoogleEarth looks and works fast ... what do you suggest?
[01:54] <dje> Anyone else having trouble with us.archive.ubuntu.com?  Is there another repository I can use as that one has been really slow lately?
[01:54] <unix_infidel> MrBallZ: if its on a laptop xgl can distrupt your sleep and hibernate functions.
[01:55] <MrBallZ> unix_infidel: mmm... and what about performance ... i mean, will XGL make it run more slugish,  i have a P4 1.8m , 512MB and the video card is a GeForce Go 420 with 16MB
[01:56] <unix_infidel> MrBallZ: yes it will run pretty slow.
[01:56] <edu> hey, imachine, i'm seeing something strange
[01:56] <unix_infidel> imho xgl isnt really worth it unless you are into spending hours exprimentng with linux software.
[01:57] <MrBallZ> so, its basically  eye candy ?
[01:57] <unix_infidel> sure.
[01:57] <edu> mhhh
[01:57] <MrObvious> MrBallZ: Run E17 for eye candy.
[01:57] <edu> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[01:57] <edu> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[01:57] <edu> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[01:57] <edu> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[01:58] <MrBallZ> MrObvious: what is e17 ???
[01:58] <MrObvious> Enlightenment DR 0.17
[01:58] <MrObvious> www.get-e.org
[01:58] <robotgeek> edu: dont paste in here, but you are looking for (EE)
[01:58] <eXCeSS> http://mcccxxxvii.com does my site work for any of you its broken for me wtf :(
[01:58] <edu> EE? :-S
[01:59] <MrBallZ> another question:  regarding  wlassitant , when I conect to an access point or router, it doesn't perform a dhcp request ... i have to do it manually ... is there a setting to change the dhcp client it uses ... or any sugestions ?
[01:59] <MrObvious> eXCeSS: No
[01:59] <eXCeSS> broken?
[01:59] <eXCeSS> thanks
[01:59] <MrObvious> yw
[01:59] <robotgeek> edu: lines starting with (EE)
[01:59] <MrObvious> MrBallZ: Same here. You'll just have to run sudo dhclient.
[02:00] <MrObvious> Unless someone knows a fix.
[02:01] <MrBallZ> MrObvious: have you tried Kwifimanager ?  ... i installed it , but it doesn't detect " all the networks " that are surrounding ... don't know why ...
[02:01] <robotgeek> kwifimanager is evil!
[02:02] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: if you are on dapper, you might prefer network-manager-kde
[02:02] <edu> hey robotgeek
[02:02] <MrObvious> MrBallZ: no
[02:02] <robotgeek> yes edu
[02:02] <edu> in EE lines there're errors about other things
[02:02] <edu> something like "wacom"
[02:02] <edu> it's for tablet pcs? ...
[02:03] <robotgeek> edu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick vesa
[02:03] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: why is kwifimanager evil ...
[02:04] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: cause it does not work, but pretends like it does?
[02:04] <edu> but then the 3d acceleration won't work, will it?
[02:04] <MrBallZ> and I am in dapper ... so you mean to go each time to the system settings and the network conections ? instead of using wlassistant ...
[02:04] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: no, install network-manager-kde, it works nicer than wlanassistant
[02:07] <edu> well... if everything works except 3d rendering, it must be something of dri or maybe this xorg version is not well supported by ati
[02:08] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: is it in the normal repositories ... I can't see it ... I can see a " network manager"  ...
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get mpg functioning?
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> codecs?
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> !codecs
[02:08] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:09] <imachine> edu, hmm.
[02:09] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: hmm, you are on dapper, right?
[02:09] <imachine> edu, solved it yet ?
[02:09] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: yes
[02:09] <edu> no :-(
[02:10] <edu> did you see that info upper?
[02:10] <imachine> edu, yeah
[02:10] <imachine> hmm
[02:10] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: knetworkmanager sorry
[02:10] <edu> and what do you think?
[02:10] <imachine> i dont know really; you could try running X maybe with some more verbose level ?
[02:10] <imachine> edu, what's dmesg say ?
[02:11] <MrBallZ> no problemo
[02:11] <edu> dmesg? sorry, i'm a litlle noob
[02:11] <edu> what's that?
[02:12] <imachine> edu, type 'dmesg' in a terminal
[02:12] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: ah , network manager is good for laptops ... should have installed that ... if I just knew
[02:12] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: its great for laptops (when it just works)
[02:12] <edu> it says a lot of things, lol
[02:13] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: hahaha , when it works ? :P
[02:13] <edu> however, they don't look good
[02:14] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: and I asume the icon wont be there until the next reboot ... or where is it at ?
[02:14] <imachine> edu, anything about ati?
[02:14] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: it should start up on its own, i am guessing
[02:15] <edu> i belive there isn't information about ati
[02:16] <imachine> edu, well... then i dont know ;)
[02:16] <edu> there aren't any errors about ati or fglrx
[02:16] <imachine> you could setenv some stuff like GLX_VERBOSE or  something.. and run glxinfo
[02:16] <imachine> but i dont remember that setenv, you;d have to look on the dri wiki
[02:16] <imachine> edu, lsmod says the kernel module is present?
[02:17] <edu> when i type modprobe fglrx there aren't errors.....
[02:18] <edu> wait a second
[02:18] <edu> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,via_agp      this one?
[02:18] <MrBallZ> robotgeek: hey , it looks much much better than kwifi  and wlassistant
[02:18] <MrBallZ> im going to get rid of the other 2
[02:18] <imachine> edu, yeah
[02:18] <imachine> i think
[02:19] <robotgeek> MrBallZ: cool
[02:19] <imachine> edu, modprobe? well. if it just loaded now, you might want to check out dmesg once more for info
[02:19] <edu> well, it seems to be ok, isn't it?
[02:19] <imachine> edu, duno.
[02:19] <imachine> :)
[02:20] <edu> ok, but it was loaded at the start too, i think
[02:20] <imachine> ok then
[02:21] <edu> no errors, same as before
[02:21] <edu> only errors for hdd, but that is another story :P
[02:21] <edu> (i thinks the automount crashed, only a bit)
[02:22] <imachine> hmm
[02:22] <imachine> dunno man
[02:22] <imachine> :] 
[02:22] <edu> :)
[02:22] <imachine> cant help you i suppose
[02:22] <imachine> google ;)
[02:22] <edu> believe me, i have googled a lot hahahaha
[02:23] <edu> perhaps i have to wait for a newer driver?
[02:23] <edu> look
[02:23] <edu> in the log it said
[02:23] <imachine> yeah, no GLX.
[02:23] <edu> something about xorg 6.9
[02:23] <imachine> but you have glx in xorg.conf no
[02:23] <imachine> ;)
[02:23] <imachine> maybe its incompatible with 6.9
[02:23] <imachine> dunno! :] 
[02:23] <imachine> ;D i got nvidia nad dont have problems ;p
[02:23] <edu> and dapper comes with 7.0, perhaps its unsupported, yup
[02:24] <edu> that's ...sad (for me)
[02:24] <edu> well, it's late
[02:24] <edu> thanks a lot for your support, imachine
[02:24] <edu> hope we'll talk again other day
[02:25] <imachine> cheers
[02:25] <imachine> it's not like i helped
[02:25] <imachine> ;)
[02:25] <edu> cheers
[02:26] <eXCeSS> when i switch to desktop 1 my taskbar isnt there
[02:26] <eXCeSS> how do i get it back
[02:26] <eXCeSS> i kinda need it
[02:27] <uvvv2> excess
[02:28] <eXCeSS> yea
[02:28] <uvvv2> is that happening on kde?
[02:28] <eXCeSS> yeah
[02:28] <blitz> I just installed wine using kubuntu's adept manager, but it stalls trying to create the directory to configure when I run "wine" or "winecfg" .. If I manually create the directory, I start getting all kinds of weird errors... anyone have a similar issue?
[02:28] <uvvv2> right click the taskbar, and.. let me se, i forgot what it says exactly
[02:28] <uvvv2> ok
[02:29] <eXCeSS> k
[02:29] <uvvv2> click configure taskbar and than check 'show windows from all desktops' checkbox
[02:29] <uvvv2> is that it?
[02:29] <eXCeSS> lol its checked laready
[02:29] <eXCeSS> lemme try un doing it
[02:29] <eXCeSS> then redoing it
[02:30] <eXCeSS> no thats just if it diaplayys the things in the bottom right
[02:30] <uvvv2> if that's not it, i can't help you. try playing with options in that taskbar conf. window...
[02:31] <eXCeSS> ima reobot and if it happens again if not then desktop 2 3 4 and getting killed
[02:32] <CaptainMorgan> what folder in Kaffeine defaulted to?
[02:33] <CaptainMorgan> I don't see it in /usr/lib
[02:34] <thechris> What is the current reccomendation in regards to Kubuntu x86 vs Kubuntu amd64 for 64 bit processors?
[02:34] <thechris> i assume some 3rd party packages will not exist for amd64, and such
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> IKaffeine
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> !
[02:40] <CaptainMorgan> where is Kaffeine?
[02:41] <CaptainMorgan> where is the bot......
[02:41] <thechris> i was wondering about that
[02:41] <crimsun> the bot's right there.
[02:41] <thechris> i thougth you meant there was no Kaffeine for amd64.
[02:45] <CaptainMorgan> !Kaffeine
[02:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about kaffeine
[02:45] <CaptainMorgan> sheesh
[02:47] <RadiantFire> I wonder if I could add factoids
[02:48] <RadiantFire> !kaffeine
[02:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about kaffeine
[02:48] <RadiantFire> !kaffiene
[02:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about kaffiene
[02:48] <RadiantFire> thats wierd
[02:48] <RadiantFire> he should know all packages
[02:48] <LjL> !info kaffeine
[02:48] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[02:52] <_zak> Hey can anyone tell me how to turn off hardware acceleration in the xorg.conf config file
[02:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> _zak: Yeah, pastebin the xorg.conf and I'll show you exactly where to edit it.
[02:53] <_zak> I'm on a windows machine ATM because the x serv crashes on the linux machine
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, right. Duh. :)
[02:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, gimme a second.
[02:53] <_zak> I know its under devic though
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> ubotu where is Kaffeine installed?
[02:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> _zak: Under section device add 'Option "noaccel" '
[02:54] <_zak> it says noaccel is an unsuitable statement, i tried that already
[02:54] <thechris> CaptainMorgan: which kaffeine
[02:54] <CaptainMorgan> media player
[02:55] <thechris> CaptainMorgan: no, i mean `which kaffeine`  as per:  man which
[02:55] <CaptainMorgan> !media player
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about media player
[02:55] <unix_infidel> there is no substitute for a search engine.
[02:55] <thechris> make no jokes about food in regards to man which...
[02:55] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[02:55] <CaptainMorgan> which Kaffeine returns nothing
[02:56] <_zak> what is the command for a different text editor other than nano?
[02:56] <thechris> lowercase k
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> man which fills stomach?
[02:56] <thechris> fills screen...
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> hmm.. usr/bin/kaffeine.. that should do it.. :)
[02:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> _zak: vi, kate, kwrite, pico, gedit
[02:56] <geneo93> kate
[02:56] <geneo93> install mc
[02:58] <CaptainMorgan> sweetness, thanks thechris
[03:01] <rendhalver> hey can someone help me with a kdevelop problem? i asked in the kdevelop channel but its not very active
[03:02] <_zak> hey, now i have a problem that says "no screens found"
[03:03] <azzco> hello I've got slight problem here... I'm trying to install wine and I'm supposed to enter the root password...but I don't recal any root password
[03:04] <azzco> is the root password blank or is it the password that's assigned to my account on the computer?(only got one account on the comp)
[03:04] <lwizardl> azzco, root password should be the same as the user pass
[03:04] <azzco> oh okay
[03:05] <LjL> !sudo
[03:05] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:05] <azzco> well I tried that...several times and still it wont work :(
[03:05] <lwizardl> unless you enabled the root user use sudo
[03:05] <_zak> i have error with no screens found, can someone help?
[03:05] <azzco> yeah I know what sudo is but wine isn't letting me use sudo command
[03:05] <lwizardl> hmm
[03:05] <azzco> I'll be back in a while
[03:05] <lwizardl> did you enable the repo's
[03:06] <azzco> lwizardl: repo's?
[03:06] <lwizardl> basically the multiverse & universe sources
[03:07] <Mickey_> Hello
[03:07] <bioticpro> Anybody here use Nvidia 6200 card on linux?
[03:07] <_zak> naa, i got 7900gt and lg monitor, wiht a no screens error. please help
[03:09] <unix_infidel> how do i configure the time zone?
[03:09] <KuLover> Hiya, what does it mean when I get "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" during boot?
[03:09] <unix_infidel> !timezone
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about timezone
[03:09] <Mickey_> I have something that should be easy.  I am running Kubuntu and don't have 'make' working.  I tried apt-get with no success and yum isn't installed, I tried d/l deb packages....  any help is much appreciated
[03:09] <unix_infidel> !region
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about region
[03:10] <Mickey_> !make
[03:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[03:10] <azzco> okay I'm back
[03:11] <azzco> Desktop/wine-0.9.15~winehq0~ubuntu~5.10.orig the row after that it says Password: so I enterd my user password
[03:11] <azzco> got this as an answer Desktop/wine-0.9.15~winehq0~ubuntu~5.10.orig
[03:11] <azzco> huh not copying right =/
[03:12] <azzco> well anyways it says authentic faiure...
[03:12] <Mickey_> Thank you ubotu!
[03:12] <azzco> I really don't knwo what could be wrong... I've been fiddling with wine the whole day and this is as far as I've gotten
[03:13] <KuLover> Mickey, YOu know ubotu is a bot ;)
[03:13] <CaptainMorgan> is there another system browser besides Konqueror available? Alt-L and Q to remove a window is just.. well.. annoying...
[03:13] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[03:13] <CaptainMorgan> accustomed to my Alt-F X
[03:14] <GullyFoyle> hrm kde is running extremely slowly and giving me errors about dcopserver. in my home direcory i see 2 dcopservers. shouldnt there only be one?
[03:15] <Mickey_> Kinda figured, but oh such a helpful bot, maybe not as helpful as lopez but hey!
[03:15] <unix_infidel> for some reason my time zone changed to moscow sporadically.
[03:15] <unix_infidel> how can i change it back...there's no dpkg-reconfigure option for it.
[03:16] <CaptainMorgan> infidel
[03:17] <Ashex> anyone know how to transfer music to minidiscs in linux?
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> wouldn't that be the same as if it were a 600mb regular CD ? Ashex
[03:17] <_zak> Can someone help me with a no screens found
[03:18] <CaptainMorgan> jus the size if recognized as smaller
[03:18] <eXCeSS> !mount
[03:18] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[03:18] <eXCeSS> is there a way to enable the automatic mounting of usb hard drive on boot, with out messsing with fstab
[03:20] <Ashex> CaptainMorgan: Minidiscs Aren't the same as Compact Discs
[03:20] <CaptainMorgan> Ashex: aren't they read as easily?
[03:20] <eXCeSS> no they need a reader
[03:21] <CaptainMorgan> huh..
[03:21] <eXCeSS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minidisc
[03:21] <Mickey_> eXCeSS I had one automount and another wouldn't mount at all, still scratching my head on that one.
[03:21] <eXCeSS> Mickey_:  shit thanks tho
[03:22] <eXCeSS> it has to mount before ktorrent loads or ktorrent removes the torrents from the queue
[03:24] <eXCeSS> woohoo physics regents tomorrow
[03:25] <Ashex> Damnit, I guess I'm stuck using Windows to transfer music :/
[03:26] <eXCeSS> nooooooooooooo
[03:26] <eXCeSS> not windows
[03:26] <eXCeSS> :)
[03:26] <eXCeSS> :( *
[03:26] <Ashex> :'(
[03:26] <CaptainMorgan> eXCeSS:  regents?
[03:26] <Ashex> I can't get Sonicstage to install under Wine
[03:26] <DrBair> good ole regents
[03:26] <eXCeSS> oh yeah state tests
[03:26] <eXCeSS> Ashex: use vmware
[03:26] <Ashex> Maybe I'll use VMware to load the windows on my other drive
[03:28] <_bon> just got back from holiday and did an update and it has changed my xorg.conf file so kdm doesnt start here is the log http://pastebin.com/724579 this is my xorg.conf that doesnt work http://pastebin.com/724585
[03:28] <eXCeSS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_Examinations check out ny
[03:28] <eXCeSS> woo yea
[03:29] <Ashex> One of the advantages to having gmail for you domain. You can set it up so that any email sent to a non-existent email address is forwarded to yours
[03:30] <eXCeSS> thats sort of really awesome
[03:30] <eXCeSS> except i think spammers would love that
[03:30] <Ashex> Yeah
[03:30] <RadiantFire> mmm...
[03:30] <Ashex> but Gmail does a good job of filtering it out
[03:30] <eXCeSS> true
[03:30] <RadiantFire> did you hear about the guy who had verizon cell phone and ended up getting all these internal testing IM's
[03:30] <eXCeSS> yup
[03:30] <eXCeSS> null
[03:30] <RadiantFire> cuz he set his user name to null
[03:30] <Ashex> occasionally one or two slip through and pop-up in my inbox, but it's usually clean
[03:31] <RadiantFire> thats so hilarious
[03:31] <RadiantFire> spamasssasin fails at life
[03:31] <eXCeSS> yeah that shit is awesome
[03:31] <RadiantFire> I've never had spam blocked from kmail or evolution or any e-mail client
[03:31] <eXCeSS> does thunderbird have spam extensions?
[03:32] <Mussorgsky> I can't find the old wiki documentation... where is it now?
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> spamassasin is not that bad to setup
[03:33] <bimberi> Mussorgsky: some has been moved to help.ubuntu.com. what in particular?
[03:34] <Mussorgsky> the page on restricted formats, for example
[03:34] <Mussorgsky> this is on the wiki home page: Note - the community wiki is now on the Community Docs section on this website
[03:35] <Mussorgsky> I loooked everywhere for this "Community Docs" section
[03:35] <bimberi> Mussorgsky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats redirects to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <Mussorgsky> did not redirect me
[03:36] <bimberi> hmmk
[03:36] <Mussorgsky> oh, I see
[03:36] <Mussorgsky> there's a community docs tab in help.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <Mussorgsky> thanks
[03:37] <bimberi> np, i agree that the bit on the front page of the wiki can be done better - *fixes*
[03:37] <Mussorgsky> maybe a direct link
[03:38] <nixternal> !multiverse
[03:38] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[03:38] <bimberi> yes, i'll change the words Community Docs to be a link to it on h.u.c
[03:42] <doobeh> Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem regarding sound.  I've essentially got two soundcards, the onboard one, and my USB headset
[03:43] <doobeh> both are recognised, but how do I pick the either one as the temporary default?
[03:43] <osiris> using alsa ?
[03:44] <doobeh> I believe so :)
[03:44] <osiris>  /dev/dsp should be onboard, and /dev/dsp0 or dsp1 should be the headset
[03:44] <osiris> depends on what your trying to configure mostly
[03:45] <CaptainMorgan> this is a KDE specific issue.... has to be. .Gnome didn't have this problem - Firefox will not completely install flashplayer.. every site visited and it says "click here to install" and it finds the player and installs it but then it somehow removes it right away... any ideas?
[03:46] <osiris> CaptainMorgan, have you tried installing the plugin by hand ?
[03:46] <CaptainMorgan> osiris: yes
[03:46] <osiris> have you checked the about:plugins tab, to see if its loading it ?
[03:47] <osiris> and by hand i mean actually copying the .so file into the plugin directory ?
[03:47] <Frederick> folks what wierd version of xchat is ubuntu shipping?
[03:47] <CaptainMorgan> about:plugins tab?
[03:47] <osiris> type about:plugins in the firefox address bar
[03:47] <CaptainMorgan> osiris: .. that .so placing into plugin dir I did not do.....
[03:48] <CaptainMorgan> osiris: about:plugins returns nothing installed.. which Im not surprised by
[03:48] <osiris> CaptainMorgan, try that.  that should fix you up
[03:48] <CaptainMorgan> it always says successful then immediately removes it
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> where do I get the .so file? apt-get ?
[03:49] <osiris> the installer should create one
[03:49] <osiris> lemme look for it
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> see..
[03:49] <CaptainMorgan> ths is what messes me up
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> im in the dir now and the .so file IS THERe1
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> libflashplayer.so
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> and flashplayer.xpt
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> the only two there
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> I dont' get it
[03:51] <osiris> are they in usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:51] <azzco> pheew I made a post about my problem... the admin there runs kubuntu too I think or at least he knows a bit about it (it was he who got me into kubuntu and made me install wine) well anyways if anyone would feel like trying to help me I've posted my problem here http://www.excalibur-holland.net/phpnuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=5334#5334
[03:51] <doobeh> at the moment, under the xine audio configuration, it's got the "device used for stereo output" as "plug:front:default"
[03:52] <Bennner> hi everyone, i'm looking for help with samba.. i can see the linux-pc from my xp machines, but all the folder are not accessible, i tried alots of thing... edit smb.conf, add user, smbpasswd etc.. what i want is each share need a different password for read or read/write
[03:52] <doobeh> would that be where I put in /dev/dspX ?
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> osiris:
[03:52] <osiris> try and sudo cp them from ~/.mozilla to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> osiris: same files need to be in /usr/lib/mozzil?
[03:52] <CaptainMorgan> k
[03:53] <doobeh> answered my own question (yes) :)
[03:53] <doobeh> Next question is, can I script that?
[03:53] <osiris> doobeh, i have never seen that before, but i would assume that is where you put it
[03:53] <doobeh> Can I have a little script I run to set it to /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 ?
[03:54] <osiris> dont know.  if xine has a cli switch to change audio output devices you could, but i dont know THAT much about xine
[03:55] <doobeh> Okay, I'll head over and have a poke about, cheers for the help Osiris
[03:55] <osiris> doobeh, might try xine --help or man xine
[03:56] <osiris> no prob
[03:56] <CaptainMorgan> osiris: sudo cp'n the file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins was successful but firefox is still not playing or using the file
[03:56] <CaptainMorgan> about:plugins still comes up empty
[03:57] <osiris> did you try installing flashplayer as root and as user
[03:57] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[03:57] <Bennner> hi everyone, i'm looking for help with samba.. i can see the linux-pc from my xp machines, but all the folder are not accessible, i tried alots of thing... edit smb.conf, add user, smbpasswd etc.. what i want is each shares need a different user/password for read or read/write
[03:58] <osiris> CaptainMorgan, then im stuck.  thats usually about all it takes to get a plugin working
[03:58] <CaptainMorgan> I know.... can't be this difficult which is why Im wondering if it's a bug...
[03:59] <CaptainMorgan> the way it successfully installs and immediately rejects appears on the surface like a bug
[03:59] <osiris> lemme move to a different pc
[04:00] <nixternal> if i configure from scratch and i need to --prefix the kde headers..what is the exact location....   isn't it --prefix=/usr/lib/kde3
[04:01] <BluDog_Anchorite> CaptainMorgan, pm me the address of the site your testing flash on
[04:02] <BluDog_Anchorite> if your identified that is
[04:04] <BluDog_Anchorite> CaptainMorgan, just paste the link here. i can see your not identified
[04:04] <CaptainMorgan> hm... Im identified.. .
[04:04] <Bennner> somebody can help me with my problem?
[04:05] <KuLover> !ATI
[04:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <CaptainMorgan> identifed now.. hmm.. gotta get Konversation to auto identify .....
[04:08] <CaptainMorgan> auto config Konversation requires Settings/Identities - service = /msg nickserv identify ... correct?
[04:11] <BluDog_Anchorite> CaptainMorgan, results are in pm
[04:16] <kyle_> would anyone have any idea why I cannot load Xmoto or any other 3d game for that matter
[04:16] <Hawkwind> Do you have 3D video drivers installed correctly ?
[04:19] <kyle_> it detected and has my card loaded as a Nvidia geforce FX generic (geforce 6600GT) and i have the Nvidia-glx package installed?
[04:19] <Hawkwind> But did you do all the steps to get 3D running ?
[04:19] <Hawkwind> !nvidia
[04:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <Azzco> hi I\ve got a slight problem here...I did something wrong when trying to configure my video card and after I restarted xserver everything went blue... I\ve booted from CD how do I fix this_
[04:22] <kyle_> Hawkwind: !nvidia     it says the event is now found when i type it into konsole?
[04:22] <osiris> hey Hawkwind, how goes the day
[04:22] <orient2000> Where can I get some DVD rip software guys?
[04:22] <Hawkwind> kyle_: Did you go to that URL the bot stated ?
[04:24] <Hawkwind> osiris: Good good.  Just stumbled out of bed from taking a nap :P
[04:24] <Azzco> can someone plz help me a bit?
[04:24] <kyle_> Hawkwind: haha oops, was a llttle preoccupied searching forums, i am headen there now
[04:25] <osiris> Azzco, you could try copying the xorg.conf from the live version yer running, and puting it in your installed /etc/X11 dir
[04:26] <Azzco> thx I\ll try that
[04:26] <osiris> backup you original first
[04:26] <Azzco> not used to non swedish layout on keyboard
[04:28] <Azzco> osiris: one question...I can\t do anything when not booted from live cd...can I do this from the CD_
[04:28] <Hawkwind> There is a command you can run to reconfigure your X server
[04:28] <osiris> Azzco, thats what im hoping
[04:28] <osiris> never been in that particular situation myself
[04:29] <Azzco> Hawkwind: you know the command from the top of your head_
[04:29] <Azzco> osiris: allways good to know if it works right ;) it seems that there will be more then one learnign something from this :)
[04:29] <osiris> gotta love the OSS comunity
[04:30] <Azzco> hehe I have only used linux for about a day and a half and I love it yeah
[04:30] <osiris> standing on the shoulders of giants, are we
[04:30] <Azzco> :)
[04:32] <CaptainMorgan> osiris: cheers mate - worked
[04:32] <osiris> CaptainMorgan, congrats d00d
[04:32] <osiris> glad i could help
[04:32] <CaptainMorgan> in Konv's Settings/Identities - Auto identify what do I put in the 'service' field? I can't get it to auto identify me....
[04:33] <aeon17x> composite on kubuntu is very stable now, yay
[04:33] <CaptainMorgan> ya!
[04:33] <Hawkwind> Azzco: Nope.  I know it's some dpkg command
[04:33] <aeon17x> kicker used to crash every now and then when I did it on breezy
[04:33] <Azzco> oh okay I was just going to start searching on google
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:34] <Ashex> !tell me about vmware
[04:34] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Thank you :)
[04:34] <Azzco> thx!
[04:34] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I just pulled info in the bot and was about to look at a webpage to find the answer :)
[04:34] <Hawkwind> Azzco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:35] <Azzco> thx Hawkwind
[04:35] <GullyFoyle> hrm is there a way for Konversation to be on more than one irc server at a time?
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> GullyFoyle: Yeah, you can use F7 or just '/server servername'
[04:37] <GullyFoyle> CheeseBurgerMan: ah, ok, that's how you do it in console clients
[04:38] <GullyFoyle> CheeseBurgerMan: /server that is
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know how to auto identify ? http://konversation.kde.org/ is slow to load the handbook.....
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> GullyFoyle: Yeah. I gathered. ;)
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> been waiting
[04:40] <Azzco> okay Hawkwind you still there or was it h3sp4wn who helped well anyways will this change the live CD version running in ram or will this tke affect on my HD?
[04:40] <CaptainMorgan> got it... Nickserv
[04:47] <KuLover> !RESTRICTED
[04:47] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> Azzco: It will change the running version - you will have to restart kdm with /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> Azzco: Once you know it is working you could copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf to your drive
[04:49] <Azzco> I can\t touch anything in the drive it seems >*
[04:50] <Azzco> or can I from terminal?
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> You should be able to mount it from the live-cd
[04:51] <Azzco> you mean right click then mount_
[04:51] <Azzco> ?
[04:51] <Azzco> are we talking about gui or terminal?
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> I don't know anything about the gui
[04:52] <Azzco> hehe I dont know anything about either gui or mount :)
[04:52] <Azzco> do you mind helping me with the comands?
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> Is it actually working how you want it at the moment ?
[04:54] <Azzco> ATM yes
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> Why are you running off the live cd anyway ? It would be easier if you just booted into recovery mode and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from there
[04:55] <Azzco> oh...well this is the first time that anything happend to me in linux and the first thing I thought of was the live cd :)
[04:55] <Azzco> okay I will run it fron recovery mode insted then ;)
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> It would be easier
[04:56] <Azzco> okay I will be back in a while then ;)
[04:56] <kyle_> got it working, thank you :)
[04:56] <Azzco> quit
[04:56] <Azzco> oops not that chat lol
[04:56] <m5m> I'm stuck: upgraded to Dapper a couple of weeks ago, was having a stuck-mouse on boot problem (don't know if it's related) had to re-plug it for it to function... Now, after a random crash (system became fully unresponsive during a dvd::rip session (a perl-based app), My system will NOT load KDE/X at all... I'm in term 1 screen session irssi here, startx and sudo kdm get me to the blue font, super-low-resolution "kubuntu loading"
[04:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how can i do a console debug?
[05:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> or how can i get a lost console debug output?
[05:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> last
[05:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone?
[05:03] <m5m> dunno n0ctuRnaL-fieNd ... it seems like a quiet hour in here
[05:03] <Official_C> no clue
[05:03] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yeah , everyone went to sleep
[05:05] <regeya> all us northern-hemisphere have gotten a long day of sun, so now we're sleeeeeeeeeepy
[05:06] <m5m> gmt -8 here, I'm kinda sleepy but the sun's still up :-)
[05:07] <Ashex> well that sucks
[05:07] <Ashex> I can't boot windows in VMware
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> qemu with the kqemu module is almost as fast as vmware
[05:08] <Ashex> will it load windows though. I have it installed on another hard drive and I want to load it
[05:10] <m5m> Figured out my issue I think, something with nvidia module & updated kernel incompatibility
[05:11] <Ank_186> hello folks - anyone have any experience downloading icon themes?
[05:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yes , i got a few icon themes
[05:12] <Ank_186> and you didn't have problems getting them onto your system?
[05:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i did, but then i found the right menu
[05:13] <KullyFoyle> !Windows
[05:13] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:13] <KullyFoyle> just had to see
[05:13] <Ank_186> okay, I keep getting a message like "not a valid icon theme archive" did you ever get that?
[05:13] <m5m> that's funny :-P
[05:13] <tourent> sorry to bother, i'm trying to switch over a stock ubuntu install to kubuntu- should i just install "kubuntu-desktop" package and uninstall "gnome-desktop"?
[05:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Ank_186: what are you using as the files?
[05:14] <Ank_186> I'm at a website called kde-look and I'm just trying to download one of its selections
[05:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Ank_186: ur in the kcontrol /appearance/icons/ right?
[05:14] <robotgeek> tourent: install with aptitude
[05:15] <tourent> so stop synaptic process?
[05:15] <tourent> i'm at the downloading stage now
[05:15] <Ank_186> yes
[05:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Ank_186: what file did you download?
[05:16] <Ank_186> nothing it won't take
[05:16] <robotgeek> tourent: let it be then
[05:16] <tourent> am i on the right track- installing kde and taking off gnome?
[05:16] <Ashex> where would I grab kqemu?
[05:16] <Ank_186> keep getting an error message about it not being a valid icon theme archive
[05:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Ank_186: remember , dont extract the packages, just select the package u download from the icon theme menu
[05:17] <h3sp4wn> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html
[05:17] <azzco> hehe h3sp4wn I'm running from drive again :D altough I'll probably have to reconfigure resolution
[05:17] <Ashex> thanks
[05:17] <azzco> thx for the help =D
[05:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Ank_186: alsp some icones might not be compatible because of different file formats etc ,
[05:17] <tourent> robotgeek: install kde then uninstall gnome?
[05:18] <Ank_186> okay
[05:18] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Ank_186:have to look what kde version it was made for
[05:18] <Ank_186> that's kinda picky
[05:18] <robotgeek> tourent: yes, to remove ubuntu remove "libgtk2.0-0"
[05:19] <tourent> robotgeek: that's it, just the single package?
[05:21] <robotgeek> tourent: yeah, but all of ubuntu depends on it :)
[05:21] <tourent> will i be able to boot then :)
[05:21] <robotgeek> tourent: if you have disk space, let it be :
[05:21] <tourent> gotcha
[05:21] <tourent> wilco
[05:25] <Ashex> okay, I just did ./install && make && make install for kqemu
[05:25] <Ashex> and I don't see it anymore :/
[05:26] <Ashex> actually nevermind
[05:26] <Ashex> I'll be a good user and check the docs
[05:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i installed kdevelop but dont know how to start it
[05:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: run 'kdevelop3'
[05:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ahh yes , the 3 part , this lunux apps get tricky
[05:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ty
[05:34] <m5m> My usb-mouse fails to control the cursor on boot.  unplugging and replugging the mouse fixes the issue.  I can't find anything on the forums, anyone have a clue?
[05:35] <geneo93> guess it likes hotplug better than clodplug
[05:36] <geneo93> turn off ps2 in bios
[05:39] <bleaked> so why do the kubuntu devs mess with the menu structure of konqueror?  it's really quite confusing and makes people in #kde far less eager to help you..
[05:39] <bleaked> i'm now at my second item this week that i literally cannot find anywhere in konqueror..quite ridiculous
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> bleaked: you can get the default profiles back -- lemme search for how.
[05:40] <bleaked> good.
[05:40] <bleaked> there are also other annoying things..
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[05:41] <bleaked> like when i click up directory, the view mode always changes to large ugly icons..
[05:41] <bleaked> the devs in #kde say it's a long known kubuntu-specific problem.
[05:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> I dunno, I have mine setup with the default view mode.
[05:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> bleaked: if u use high quality icons it wont be ugly ,  128x128
[05:47] <bleaked> whoa..after going back to the original profiles, konq is very noticeably quicker..
[05:47] <bleaked> didn't expect that..
[05:54] <thechris> adept loaded once
[05:54] <thechris> now it won't
[05:54] <thechris> nvidia-glx or some package by a similar name didn't install from adept
[05:55] <thechris> is apedt broken?
[05:57] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> do, sudo apt-get install -f
[05:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> that should fox broken packages
[05:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> adept sometimes doesnt start
[05:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> for no reason
[05:58] <thechris> now adept loaded and seems to be allowing the installl.  just trying to dowload headers
[05:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i think the adept fails to start because it has something to do with the sudo password being stored in memory for certain period
[05:59] <thechris> that sudo thing is really annoying.
[06:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yeah , but its better then windows
[06:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> security wise
[06:00] <thechris> well, yes.  though vista seems to be taking my idea
[06:00] <thechris> kinda
[06:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what idea is that?
[06:01] <thechris> basically a "secure click".
[06:01] <thechris> instead of typing a password, allow the user to click "ok"
[06:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> thats sounds like a good idea , but how do you implement it so the hacker doesnt just have to hit ok to gain root access?
[06:03] <thechris> it lacks physical security
[06:04] <thechris> the idea is just to keep software from installing itself.  anyone who can gain access to the computer probably has either physical access or a remote access password.
[06:04] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> it would also only be good for home users with one account , u cant have something like that in a school or an office
[06:05] <Frederick> folks why does kubuntu doesnt have colors in terminal? even vim is black and white =/
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> :syntax on
[06:06] <thechris> you could.  the logged in users would not be given access to the secure click, or would have to issue a password.  only the "power user" would have the option for "secure click"
[06:06] <thechris> Frederick: IIRC you need to modify your ~/.bashrc
[06:06] <thechris> i think there is a "colors" option or such
[06:06] <h3sp4wn> You can just make sudo not ask for a password
[06:06] <Frederick> thechris, can you give em a link for a tuto?
[06:07] <thechris> Frederick: sorry, this is just from experience with other distros
[06:07] <unix_infidel> Frederick: what do you mean by "colors"
[06:08] <thechris> oh i just want to punch kubuntu's X11 package
[06:08] <thechris> eat me "users cannot start X servers"
[06:09] <tourent> what are some good kde file sharing applications?
[06:10] <thechris> IIRC there is a bittorrent client installed by default
[06:10] <tourent> can one look up 'audio media' using bittorrent?
[06:10] <regeya> no one does file sharing anymore. ;-)
[06:11] <regeya> that would be discussing wares, tourent
[06:11] <regeya> warez
[06:11] <regeya> even
[06:11] <regeya> sheesh, I look like a lamer
[06:11] <thechris> heh.  l4mz0R
[06:11] <geneo93> try ktorrent for search
[06:12] <regeya> hehe
[06:12] <tourent> i'm trying to be as non-contraversial as possible
[06:13] <tourent> i'm coming from limewire on windows, and i'm trying to figure out what to use
[06:14] <regeya> not that I condone such behavior, but java's easy to install (it's on the wiki somewhere, hang on) and limewire is just a java app
[06:14] <regeya> !java
[06:14] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:14] <regeya> well not "just" a java app but there's a generic package
[06:14] <Frederick> !vim colors
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about vim colors
[06:15] <Frederick> !konsole
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about konsole
[06:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !console
[06:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about console
[06:18] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> whats the deal with installing new version of apps over the old ones? is it ok , not ok , doesnt matter?
[06:19] <regeya> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ???
[06:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> lets say i have app 1.1 installed , i want to install app 1.3 , do i have to remove app 1.1 before installing app 1.3?
[06:21] <Frederick> any ideas for me?
[06:21] <thechris> so kubuntu lasted all of 30 minutes...
[06:21] <thechris> and it seems now kdesu has broke
[06:22] <thechris> and twinview doesn't work
[06:22] <thechris> i can enable it in system settings, but the apply button is greyed out
[06:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Frederick:
[06:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Frederick: it does have colors , sometimes , depends on what it displays
[06:22] <TalentedChimp> what is the format for adding local sources to sources.list?
[06:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Frederick: type ls command in a folder that has folders and files , see if it shows any colors
[06:23] <thechris> well, that doesn't count
[06:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why not
[06:23] <thechris> if you look at .bashrc it explicitly colorizes the output of ls
[06:24] <Frederick> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, still black and white
[06:24] <thechris> now, i know there is a color on, color off option in vim somewhere
[06:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> let me go find it
[06:25] <Frederick> I got a vim theme it fixored vims problem
[06:25] <Frederick> but for the term it self i got no idea
[06:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> try this command ls --color=auto
[06:26] <Frederick> MUCH better
[06:26] <Frederick> where do I add it?
[06:27] <Frederick> myuser@myhost:~ still uncoloured :p
[06:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how many colors do u want?
[06:28] <geneo93> it will do 256 colors
[06:29] <thechris> so, kdesu broke...
[06:29] <thechris> took me all of 30 minutes to break things
[06:29] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install bb then bb
[06:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> geneo93: so how do u enable colors for everything in the console/?
[06:30] <geneo93> konsole
[06:30] <thechris> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[06:31] <Frederick> gonna sleep ad fix it tommorow cya folks
[06:37] <CellarDoor> argh Apollon is a pain to setup
[06:38] <CellarDoor> Has anyone actually set this thing up without popping a vein ?
[06:41] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: checked the desktop guide?
[06:41] <CellarDoor> robotgeek: I'm trying to work my way through a howto someone posted at the ubuntu site... I just have no patience is all
[06:42] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: hmm, try the desktopguide's instructions?
[06:42] <CellarDoor> !desktopguide
[06:42] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:43] <thechris> so, anyone know what might be wrong with kdesu
[06:44] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: help menu?
[06:44] <thechris> it gives no errors related to its lack of working
[06:46] <CellarDoor> I think all I need to do is copy the conf files
[06:51] <CellarDoor> robotgeek: I think I've just about got it sorted now
[06:53] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: cool
[06:54] <CellarDoor> robotgeek: gnutella is working... I think I just have to chown fasttrack and openft now
[06:54] <robotgeek> cool
[06:58] <CellarDoor> hmm
[06:59] <CellarDoor> FastTrack and OpenFT arent connecting for some reason
[07:01] <CellarDoor> I just tried to edit a file using kate and I got a dialogue saying "cannot talk to klauncher"
[07:01] <CellarDoor> Is this bad ?
[07:04] <robotgeek> CellarDoor: i would guess so
[07:07] <Pizmar> Hi, can someone help me with installing packages from external repositories?
[07:07] <Pizmar> More specifically, bmpx
[07:08] <Pizmar> Or can anyone tell me what BREAK(install) means?
[07:08] <Pizmar> in adept
[07:09] <robotgeek> Pizmar: means installing will break your system
[07:18] <Pizmar> What why would it break my system???
[07:19] <Pizmar> Sorry for my freakishly delayed response
[07:19] <crimsun> it has the /potential/ to break your system
[07:19] <crimsun> I haven't personally audited that package, so I can't speak for it
[07:20] <crimsun> on the other hand, I do know precisely how to generate a legit deb for bmpx in a pbuilder since I've been doing it for several months
[07:32] <DaSkreech> I tried to boot my Kubuntu drive from another machine and couldn't mount the root file system
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Whats up?
[07:32] <DaSkreech> j #ubuntu
[07:33] <elknof3> !paste
[07:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:35] <elknof3> hi everybody, can someone help me whit this??  i have no idea how to set up a script... (even don't know what is this)
[07:36] <elknof3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16251
[07:36] <DaSkreech> elknof3: You mean a bash script?
[07:37] <emonkey> A script is only a textfile which can be executed
[07:37] <emonkey> so create a file at .kde/Autostart in youre home directory
[07:38] <emonkey> write this two lines in there:
[07:38] <emonkey> .kde/Autostart
[07:38] <emonkey> ups wrong paste
[07:38] <emonkey> write this two lines in there:
[07:38] <thechris> is there a kdesu lock file or something that would prevent kdesu from working
[07:38] <emonkey>  #!/bin/bash
[07:38] <emonkey>  xmodmap /home/figura/bin/hotkeys
[07:38] <emonkey> the last thing you've to do ist to give the right to execute thefile
[07:39] <emonkey> go to the file preferences and give exetue rights to the file
[07:39] <emonkey> sorry execute
[07:39] <emonkey> elknof3, that should work
[07:39] <elknof3> what do you mean creating a file at .kde/Autostart??   im ok in all except of the .kde/Autostart step...
[07:40] <emonkey> youve got a directory .kde in your home and there is a directory autostart
[07:41] <emonkey> everything in this directory will be executed after your login in kde
[07:42] <elknof3> if i dont have that directory  i need to create it... isn't it??
[07:42] <emonkey> you've already created the other file in your bin?
[07:42] <emonkey> you've this directory, you can't see it because there is a . in the beginning aof the directory name
[07:43] <elknof3> ok ok...
[07:43] <elknof3> let me see...
[07:43] <emonkey> you can see it if you enable to see hidden files
[07:43] <emonkey> or you can type the adress in the adress bar of konqueror for e.g.
[07:46] <elknof3> emonkey, sorry what would be the name for the file at .kde/Autostart?
[07:46] <elknof3> i've already created tha hotkeys file at bin
[07:46] <emonkey> elknof3, that's no important choose one you want
[07:47] <elknof3> emonkey, could it be the same??  "hotkeys"
[07:47] <emonkey> sure it can
[07:52] <elknof3> emonkey, this message came up "The file or folder file:///home/.kde does not exist."
[07:53] <emonkey> elknof3,
[07:54] <emonkey> that's in your home
[07:54] <elknof3> sorry if i'm a little bit slow...  but i'm starting
[07:54] <elknof3> ohhh
[07:54] <elknof3> ok
[07:54] <elknof3> now i get it
[07:54] <emonkey> kozz, sorry my english too.... it isn't really good i know.
[07:55] <elknof3> no pro...  where are you from??
[07:55] <jagged> Does anyone know why I can't find the apache2 package for Dapper?
[07:55] <emonkey> ups completition failure
[07:55] <emonkey> elknof3, from Switzerland, where u from?
[07:55] <elknof3> emonkey, mexico
[07:55] <emonkey> jagged, maybe its in universe
[07:56] <Hobbsee> !find apache
[07:56] <ubotu> Found: apache2, apache2-common, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 147 others)
[07:56] <jagged> I've added universe to my Adept
[07:56] <emonkey> elknof3, o grats to catch the wm final rounds :)
[07:56] <Hobbsee> !info apache2
[07:56] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:56] <Hobbsee> er, it should be in main....
[07:56] <Hobbsee> !info apache2 dapper
[07:56] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:56] <emonkey> oh it's in main
[07:56] <Hobbsee> yeah
[07:57] <jagged> docs are wrong ... still I have main
[07:57] <emonkey> jagged, plz show your sources.list in pastebin
[07:59] <orient2000> Where can I get some DVD rip software guys?
[07:59] <emonkey> !dvd
[07:59] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:00] <orient2000> Thanks
[08:01] <elknof3> emonkey, hey thanks dude, thanks a lot...
[08:01] <jagged> hahaha pastebin crached
[08:01] <jagged> crashed
[08:01] <emonkey> elknof3, no prob
[08:02] <jagged> ok looks like pastebin is on the fritz ... alternative someone ?
[08:03] <jagged> http://pastebin.ca/68863
[08:03] <Hobbsee> jagged: pastebin.ca
[08:03] <jagged> there is my sources.list
[08:03] <Hobbsee> !repos
[08:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[08:04] <emonkey> jagged, you haven't enabled main...
[08:04] <emonkey> strange
[08:04] <Hobbsee> jagged: the installer has commented out main - how about you uncomment the deb and the deb-src lines, and try again
[08:04] <Hobbsee> emonkey: looks like the installer did it
[08:04] <jagged> hmmm wierd I thought I had uncommented them
[08:04] <emonkey> Hobbsee, k... I even have seen that
[08:05] <emonkey> ups my poor english
[08:05] <emonkey> I've never ever seen that...
[08:05] <orient2000> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. was not found
[08:05] <jagged> gah ... opps I'd uncommented dapper-updated
[08:06] <emonkey> orient2000, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html not https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html.
[08:06] <emonkey> theres a point at the end... try it without the pint
[08:06] <emonkey> pint
[08:06] <emonkey> point
[08:06] <orient2000> OK. I've got it. Thanks.
[08:07] <emonkey> sorry my misttypes I should have a coffee bevore I'type something here
[08:07] <emonkey> afk for coffee
[08:07] <jagged> anyone want to update the wiki article ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:07] <Hobbsee> jagged: do you?
[08:07] <jagged> it says apache2 is in universe but it is in main
[08:07] <Hobbsee> what do you want to edit in it?
[08:08] <Hobbsee> jagged: link to it?
[08:08] <jagged> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:08] <jagged> hang on thats the docs ... not the wiki
[08:12] <elijahblue> in what ways is kubuntu dapper better than fc5 kde??
[08:16] <elijahblue> in what ways is kubuntu dapper better than fc5 kde??
[08:17] <TalentedChimp> how do i add a local repository in adept?
[08:19] <exceswater> hi all
[08:19] <exceswater> good morning
[08:20] <ralph> Hello All !!
[08:22] <ralph> Simple question, How do I empty the trashcan?  I just installed Dapper Drake and there is no icon for the trashcan on the KDE panel.  Best Guesses as to how to make it visible and empty it?
[08:22] <TalentedChimp> how do i add a local repo in adept and get adept to see it, i've looked at the guide and nothing seems to explain how to do it
[08:22] <TalentedChimp> add the trashcan applet
[08:22] <thechris> !mp3
[08:22] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:23] <TalentedChimp> ralph : add the trash can applet from the panel menu
[08:25] <ralph> Talented Chimp, thanks a bunch.  I knew it would be something simple.  Tried going through the System Settings and any other things.  GREAT!!
[08:25] <TalentedChimp> np
[08:29] <thechris> ok what is the name for the mp3 package
[08:29] <thechris> libxine-extracodecs didn't work
[08:29] <thechris> isn't found
[08:30] <r0xz> thechris: have you enabled multiverse in your sources.list file?
[08:30] <thechris> backports?
[08:31] <r0xz> nope
[08:31] <thechris> ok, in that case i'll need the sources
[08:31] <TalentedChimp> thechris : you may want to add the plf repos too
[08:31] <thechris> as the default source.list has none
[08:31] <thechris> also none of that in the file
[08:32] <Hobbsee> add multiverse instead - plf will break your system.
[08:32] <thechris> how
[08:32] <r0xz> thechris: get yourself a nice file at source-o-matic
[08:32] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[08:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[08:33] <TalentedChimp> just break system or break it when you try to do something with those packages?
[08:33] <thechris> i don't have synaptic.  adept doesn't work.  the multiverse isn't in the file to uncomment
[08:33] <thechris> so what now
[08:33] <jagged> add it to the file
[08:34] <jagged> copy the line that says universe
[08:34] <jagged> and change it to multiverse
[08:35] <jagged> infact adept even has a "clone" function if you right click universe
[08:35] <aftertaf> he says it doesnt work adept
[08:35] <thechris> but adept is not.
[08:36] <jagged> adept doesnt work ... as in it wont start ?
[08:36] <thechris> it starts when it wants to
[08:36] <r0xz> thechris: just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file as superuserdo and add multiverse in the line "deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse"
[08:36] <thechris> its not bound to the users will like most programs
[08:36] <exceswater> hey... who can tell me please command line for installing penguin racer and the other 2 games... :D they are like packaged 2gether
[08:36] <thechris> so why don't they include the commented out version of that in sources.list
[08:38] <r0xz> thechris: because the system is setup to support free software more than non-free software
[08:38] <r0xz> and because multiverse is less supported/updated
[08:39] <aftertaf> thechris, is your sources looking better now?
[08:40] <thechris> ok, it looks like things are a bit better
[08:40] <Hobbsee> exceswater: sudo apt-get install ppracer
[08:40] <Hobbsee> !find ppracer
[08:40] <ubotu> No packages matching 'ppracer' could be found
[08:40] <Hobbsee> !find racer
[08:40] <aftertaf> tuxracer
[08:40] <ubotu> Found: dnstracer, traceroute, leaktracer, planetpenguin-racer, planetpenguin-racer-data (and 8 others)
[08:40] <Hobbsee> oh that's it
[08:40] <thechris> my current issues are:  adept doesn't always load.  2.)  users cannot start X11 sessions with startx
[08:40] <aftertaf> doh
[08:40] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee late for you, early fo  me :)
[08:40] <Hobbsee> exceswater: sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer
[08:40] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf.  it's almost 5pm
[08:41] <aftertaf> thechris, x11 sessions is normal,ish... use kdm
[08:41] <thechris> oh, and nfs takes 3 minutes to mount
[08:41] <aftertaf> Hobbsee, hehe 9am hehe
[08:41] <exceswater> hi hobsee
[08:41] <exceswater> 10x
[08:41] <exceswater> :D
[08:41] <aftertaf> Hobbsee, it should be easy to edit, just make em make it clearer.
[08:41] <Hobbsee> thechris: if you try kdesu adept from the console, it usually starts.  i dont think why it stops starting up
[08:42] <aftertaf> thechris what version of kubuntu?
[08:42] <thechris> aftertaf: i actually need startx support for something specific.  i don't know how to change serverlayouts in kdm
[08:42] <thechris> 6.06
[08:42] <aftertaf> ah ok
[08:43] <thechris> i need two sessions, one with 8bit color and a 2048x2048 virtual desktop.  the other with 24bit color and smaller desktop
[08:43] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: true, but they cant add multiverse by default i believe.  see bug 50644
[08:43] <thechris> in the past i just used startx to start the special purpose session
[08:44] <thechris> sudo startx works, but the system crumbles quickly
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hi :)
[08:44] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[08:44] <aftertaf> cant that be done in .xinitrc in a home directory, or both for same user
[08:44] <aftertaf> weird.
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Good Morning
[08:45] <thechris> aftertaf: you mean make a second user specifically for the special purpose app.  hmm.  and put the settings in .xsession
[08:45] <aftertaf> yeah i think i meant that....:)
[08:47] <elknof3> emonkey, sorry dude, what is the directory to install programs... i mean i reember was something like /usr/blabla...
[08:48] <emonkey> elknof3, ohm normally I install everything through the package manager
[08:48] <emonkey> so I don't know where it should be
[08:49] <elknof3> emonkey, ok, well then thanks...
[08:49] <emonkey> in /usr/bin are normally all programms
[08:49] <emonkey> or /usr/sbin
[08:49] <elknof3> emonkey, yeah, that...
[08:49] <emonkey> o...ok..
[08:49] <thechris> elknof3: for what purpose do you ask?
[08:50] <thechris> most apps will have a "make install" to install them.  your apps should go in /usr/local/bin/ .  to find an app, use:  "which app"
[08:51] <emonkey> good to know...
[08:51] <elknof3> i'm trying to run limewire...  so the directory tu unzip the file...
[08:51] <elknof3> sorry to unzip
[08:52] <elknof3> lol..  deam span-glish
[08:52] <emonkey> uh that have some install script so u dont need to unzip in there
[08:52] <elknof3> it was only to follow some order...
[08:52] <emonkey> I've installed that a while ago
[08:52] <emonkey> hmk... maybe it's another version
[08:52] <elknof3> but it didn't run...  even i had install sun-java5-bin package
[08:53] <emonkey> I've done it with http://kudos.berlios.de
[08:53] <edulix> hi !
[08:54] <elknof3> !kudos
[08:54] <ubotu> http://kudos.berlios.de is an extremely extensive and comprehensive guide for Kubuntu *Breezy*. Note some things will be different on dapper.
[08:55] <emonkey> I've just seen that limewire isn't anymore on kudos
[08:56] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:57] <Hobbsee> !limewire
[08:57] <ubotu> A popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.
[08:58] <emonkey> !frostwire
[08:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostwire
[09:00] <elknof3> emonkey, are you running under breezy??
[09:00] <emonkey> elknof3, not anymore, that is a while ago I've installed limewire... now I only use ktorrent as P2P
[09:01] <elknof3> emonkey, works fine??
[09:01] <emonkey> ktorrent?
[09:02] <elknof3> yeah
[09:02] <elknof3> i mean...  is lime like??
[09:02] <emonkey> for torrents yes... but it's not for other networks usable
[09:02] <emonkey> Isn't ktorrent in the default installation?
[09:03] <emonkey> if is it, just start it an try out
[09:05] <elknof3> emonkey, yeah i thought it was lime like...
[09:05] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to add APM in the kernel
[09:05] <elknof3> !repos
[09:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[09:06] <thechris> the "run command" is pretty worthless
[09:06] <thechris> how do i set a PATH for it
[09:06] <elijahblue> can someone tell me what extra packages i get in the kubuntu DVD?
[09:07] <SurfnKid> elijahblue: you get all of bill's gates programming bloopers
[09:08] <SurfnKid> LeeJunFan_: hehe i wish, nah, i guess you get everythin else the CD's would have
[09:08] <SurfnKid> elijahblue: that was for u
[09:09] <ecker> is there a livecd for dapper ?
[09:09] <elknof3> does someone have installed limewire on dapper??
[09:09] <Hobbsee> !limewire
[09:09] <ubotu> A popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.
[09:09] <Hobbsee> ecker: yes, it's the desktop cd
[09:09] <Hobbsee> ecker: you can also install off it nwo
[09:09] <elknof3> ecker, the installation cd is also livecd
[09:10] <mustafa> hi
[09:10] <elknof3> i have already installed sun-java5-bin package but i can have limewire working
[09:10] <ecker> i hate the desktop cd .. I like the old vashion way better
[09:12] <emonkey> ecker, just download the alternate CD that's like the old install CD
[09:12] <ecker> emonkey yeah thats what im doing =)
[09:13] <emonkey> :)
[09:14] <Hobbsee> !frostwire
[09:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostwire
[09:15] <elijahblue> i heard u can install reiserfs with desktop cd?
[09:15] <elijahblue> cant*
[09:16] <ecker> Errr Desktop cd ......
[09:16] <ecker> that things evil
[09:17] <ecker> I see they finally added azureus to apt-get
[09:17] <Chousuke> ecker: now that it's finally possible :P
[09:17] <ecker> =0)
[09:27] <farous> hi how can i prevent the auto-detection and display in nautilus > computer. for my hidden partitions?
[09:28] <elknof3> does someone knows how to check if java is working??
[09:30] <farous> elknof3: type test java in firefo google search
[09:33] <rockin_stan> Anybody managed to sync via kitchensync so far?
[09:39] <antinobody> anyone happen to know how to how to join the mailing lists listed in the wiki?
[09:39] <exceswater> who can tell me how to install a game... cube
[09:40] <exceswater> i have the archive
[09:40] <exceswater> i unziped it
[09:40] <exceswater> now what ?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> antinobody: go to lists.ubuntu.com and subscribe to one?  i'm not sure what's on the wiki
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Can someone assist me installing Java through the console?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> !java
[09:43] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:43] <farous> thoreauputic: why not put in the factoid that it is in multiverse !!
[09:44] <antinobody> Hobbsee: thanks, and hey again
[09:44] <thoreauputic> farous: good point...
[09:44] <Hobbsee> hi :)
[09:44] <antinobody> I just finished a long term, and during this week I have before the next one, I figured I'd try to get more involved.
[09:46] <Hobbsee> :) fun
[09:46] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[09:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[09:46] <farous> thoreauputic: i would have done it but i do not know the new syntax. also a hint on update-alternatives to use sun java will be good too
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> well, thanks, that seems to be working
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> so why did i download that .bin off the sun homepage?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> !java
[09:48] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[09:48] <thoreauputic> farous: we can't put everyhting in one factoid :)
[09:49] <farous> thoreauputic: i know it is too long. but do you think it is necessary to define java :)
[09:49] <farous> and why point to the wiki
[09:49] <thoreauputic> farous: no, I don't - I didn't write the original
[09:49] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:49] <farous> will confuse them and they will think they need extra setting
[09:51] <thoreauputic> farous: you can use !info instead like this
[09:51] <thoreauputic> !info sun-java5-jre
[09:51] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[09:52] <farous> thoreauputic: yah that is better thanx :)
[09:52] <exceswater> hey
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Thanks, thoreaputic, that was it
[09:53] <exceswater> please help me with a game
[09:53] <exceswater> i got the zip
[09:53] <exceswater> unziped it
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> easier than i expected
[09:53] <exceswater> but dunno what to do further
[09:53] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: don't forget to run  sudo update-alternatives java
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> what does that do?
[09:54] <weedar> !info initng
[09:54] <ubotu> Package initng does not exist in dapper
[09:54] <farous> thoreauputic: i think it is sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:54] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: sorry "don't forget to run  sudo update-alternatives --config java "
[09:54] <thoreauputic> farous: correct
[09:54] <farous> that is for java-jsdk
[09:54] <thoreauputic> for bothe
[09:54] <thoreauputic> *both
[09:54] <farous> for plugins he need the sun-java plugin package
[09:54] <thoreauputic> farous: I made a mistake :)
[09:54] <farous> i made lots of them my friend :)
[09:55] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: there is a "Free" java version already - that lets you choose sun java as default
[09:55] <thoreauputic> for instance
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Open Office.org also needs to be told where to find java
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> actually i was looking for the java plug-in for Fx, sorry if I stated that unclear
[09:57] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: install the plugin as farous said
[09:57] <thoreauputic> sun-java5-plugin
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> why would i need 3 alternatives to offer java?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: you don't - you pick one :)
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock>  1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock>       3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> but do the other two have to be there at all?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> you want 3 probably
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, i picked that
[10:00] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: this is the freedom of linux. you are not stuck with one program you just choose the one you prefer :)
[10:01] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: the others are the Free GNU ones - I suspect some programs use them
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> i dont think i myself will have any actual preferences which java to use
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> but Fx does, I guess
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> ah, ok
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Fx won't do java pages with the gcj/ gij
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> restarting Fx is enough to get it running I guess?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> should be
[10:02] <thoreauputic> go to java.com to test it I guess
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> well, i tried a game at sun.com
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> still tells me that plug-ins are missing
[10:04] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: did youinstall the plugin?
[10:04] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: did you close all instances of firefox
[10:05] <thoreauputic> heh - java is now at 1.5.0_7 - the web site says mine is not the latest, unsurprisingly
[10:05] <oputres> Hi! How do I install Ndiswrapper?
[10:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ndiswrapper
[10:06] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper
[10:06] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[10:06] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[10:06] <thoreauputic> ah
[10:06] <oputres> Where should I write !ndiswrapper? Here?
[10:07] <oputres> If ndiswrapper doesn't exist in Dapper, what should I use instead?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[10:08] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[10:08] <thoreauputic> oputres: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[10:08] <Hobbsee> oputres: ^  it does exist
[10:08] <thoreauputic> ah, ndiswrapper-utils
[10:08] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[10:08] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[10:09] <thoreauputic> there
[10:09] <oputres> Well, when I try the apt-get ndiswrapper in the Terminal I got an errormessage telling me that's an incorrect command
[10:09] <thoreauputic> oputres: read above
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> i closed Fx and reopened it, yeah
[10:09] <thoreauputic> oputres: we just gave you links and a package name
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> but it was open during the install, might that be the problem?
[10:10] <farous> is java working now i can not quite understand?
[10:10] <oputres> Yesterday somebody told me that some swedish server was unavailible. I tried the information giving in the links but I can't find ndiswrapper anywhere. Could it be that the server is unavailible in Sweden?
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> the Fx plugin, which is what i am looking for, ist not working
[10:11] <thoreauputic> oputres: *sigh* we told you the links to look at
[10:11] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: did you try in google test java
[10:11] <farous> will give you a link
[10:11] <thoreauputic> oputres: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[10:11] <thoreauputic> oputres: and the package is called ndiwrapper-utils
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> wait, do i need to setup the plugin in Fx as well maybe?
[10:12] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: it should be done auto give me a min
[10:12] <oputres> Oki, I will try it again. Did so yesterday but there was nothing but trouble. I'm a real newbie at Kubuntu/Linux
[10:13] <farous> i will give you the right path for it
[10:14] <farous>  ls /ubuntu/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[10:14] <farous> forget the /ubuntu part
[10:15] <farous> but execute this commnd in a shell
[10:15] <farous> if you run i386 based sys. intell one
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> you better talk noobspeak to me, sorry, it's my 4th day on linux
[10:17] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: ok do you have the sun-java-jre package installed
[10:17] <farous> check it in adept
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> the verifier on the sun homepage said I have it
[10:18] <farous> than you have it:)
[10:19] <farous> perhaps you were taliking about flash
[10:19] <MilhousePunkRock> i installed flash earlier
[10:20] <farous> did you run sudo update-flashplugin
[10:20] <exceswater> has anyone heard about CUBE game
[10:20] <exceswater>  ? ? ?
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> adept says sun-java is there twice, sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-sre
[10:21] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: that is right
[10:21] <farous> do not worry
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> ok
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> but the plugin is listed as not installed
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> about flash, no, i dowloaded the package and ran the script
[10:22] <oputres> What exactly am I doing when I enable the archives universe and adding multiverse afterwards in the Adept -> Repositories?
[10:23] <antinobody> adding the multiverse repositories
[10:23] <antinobody> there are several repositories, including main, universe, multiverse, etc
[10:24] <antinobody> adding the multiverse repositories makes packages that aren't in the other repositories available to you
[10:24] <emonkey> for example java is in multiverse
[10:25] <Hobbsee> !components
[10:25] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[10:25] <Hobbsee> oputres: see ^ for an explanatoin of the different bits
[10:25] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock:  sun-java5-plugin  <-- install that
[10:25] <oputres> But why do I need to write multiverse after the universe line? Isn't it enough just enableing the universe?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> oputres: not if you want the software from multiverse, no
[10:26] <Hobbsee> oputres: universe and multiverse are different - universe stuff is legal in all countries - multiverse stuff usually isnt
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: not quite - it's just "non-free"
[10:26] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, so i see
[10:27] <exceswater> hello people
[10:27] <exceswater> who can help me install a game
[10:27] <cox377> which game is it wateR?
[10:27] <exceswater> cube
[10:27] <exceswater> i was an archive
[10:27] <exceswater> i unziped it
[10:28] <exceswater> now i have a folder with a bunch of files
[10:28] <exceswater> and no clue :D
[10:28] <exceswater> it seems to be nice
[10:28] <exceswater> after the screen shots
[10:28] <exceswater> but i dunno how to install it
[10:28] <cox377> is it a M$ game?
[10:28] <exceswater> what is m$
[10:28] <emonkey> !info cube
[10:28] <ubotu> Package cube does not exist in dapper
[10:29] <emonkey> !cube
[10:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about cube
[10:29] <exceswater> it's not from kubuntu
[10:29] <exceswater> !kube
[10:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about kube
[10:29] <emonkey> exceswater, it's a linux game? or its a windows game?
[10:29] <exceswater> it's from here:  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29868
[10:29] <exceswater> linux game
[10:29] <exceswater> it was an archive
[10:29] <exceswater> tar.gz
[10:29] <exceswater> i unziped it
[10:29] <exceswater> but now i dunno how to install it
[10:30] <oputres> Aah, let me se if I got this right. After the line http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ there was the word universe. By adding multiverse I enable the multiverse component on that link? Thus there is different components on that link, not just a link for one component (universe). Am I correct?
[10:30] <franz> I'm trying Kubuntu for the first time from the CD. How can I access existing data on my hard disks?
[10:30] <emonkey> do an ls -la an put the output in pastebin plz
[10:30] <franz> sorry if this have been alreday asked thousands of times..
[10:30] <emonkey> do the ls -la in the directory you've unpacked
[10:30] <cox377> franz: are u talking about local hdd's?
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> You do NOT have the latest version of Java.
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> The latest version of Java software = Version 5.0 Update 7.
[10:30] <exceswater> k
[10:30] <exceswater> i try
[10:30] <franz> yes cox377
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> does that have to make me worry?
[10:31] <emonkey> MilhousePunkRock, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:31] <cox377> click on storage media then double click on the drive u want, if the drives are NTFS then they can be read only
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> i think i just did that
[10:31] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: giveit a week or so and it will be in the repos. but basically it will make no diff for you
[10:32] <emonkey> MilhousePunkRock, do you selected the correct version there?
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, i just did sudo update...
[10:32] <franz> cox377, where is "storage media" ?  I'm not on the kubuntu at the moment.  And no, hdds are not NTFS but ext3 and fat.
[10:33] <emonkey> there you can select the version which should be used
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> emonkey: I already did
[10:33] <emonkey> java -v shows the used version
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> the version I have is update 6
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> i guess it won't make a big difference to the Update 7
[10:34] <cox377> franz: then they are read/write, storage media is just one of the buttons
[10:34] <cox377> are u on on live CD?
[10:34] <franz> yes I am cox377
[10:34] <cox377> right of the K button, click that then /storage media
[10:34] <emonkey> MilhousePunkRock, what shows java -version
[10:34] <farous> MilhousePunkRock: macromedia is not suppoerted yet by linux. but there are project perhaps in the future by the wy
[10:34] <franz> ok, thank you so much cox377
[10:35] <cox377> np] 
[10:35] <oputres> Aah, let me se if I got this right. After the line http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ there was the word universe. By adding multiverse I enable the multiverse component on that link? Thus there is different components on that link, not just a link for one component (universe). Am I correct? Please, can someone confirm this.
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> java version "1.5.0_06"
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> well, but flash is working
[10:35] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: don't fret - it works fine
[10:36] <thoreauputic> java I mean
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> @farous
[10:36] <franz> btw, i loved the easy wifi connection with kubuntu. I took me hours to get connected with a different distribution
[10:36] <thoreauputic> MilhousePunkRock: the Ubuntu version is +6
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> franz: prepare for losing that once you install it and update it
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> so java is fine now
[10:36] <oputres> What different ways are there to download packages? Via the apt-get in the Terminal, via the Add/Remove Program and via the Adept Manager or what?
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> what's up next on my list
[10:37] <franz> really MilhousePunkRock ?  any suggestion ?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> oputres: yes - or you can install synaptic if you want
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> well, I chose kubuntu because it was the only live distro that had my wireless "out of the box"
[10:37] <oputres> What is synaptic?
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> after the installation it was still fine
[10:37] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[10:37] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:38] <oputres> Thanks, I will check it out
[10:38] <thoreauputic> oputres: it's the package manager for Ubuntu
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> but when you do the update, it gets messed up
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> at least here it did
[10:38] <farous> i think many here need to visit help.ubuntu.com an excellent doc site specially for new users :)
[10:38] <ubuntu> Ok guys, i'm partitioning right now, and i've got about 75 gigs
[10:38] <ubuntu> is 1 gig for swap, 67 for home, and 6 for / a good setup?
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> my suggestion: come here again and let the nice people help you, worked fine for me
[10:38] <oputres> When should I use which one? Is Add/Remove program just a graphic version of i.e. apt-get?
[10:39] <franz> ah, I see.... well, I hope i'll be luckier. Was it just a matter of resetting a few data or was it worst MilhousePunkRock ?
[10:39] <cox377> oputres: use Adept(package Manger)
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> if i only knew... since i am a newbie, i didnt exactly know what we did
[10:40] <franz> ok
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> was something about the kernel missing the wlan drivers or something
[10:40] <franz> wow, that's bad.... I hope they fixed this issue....
[10:41] <franz> anyway, there is nothing that can't be done with some help
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> indeed
[10:41] <franz> thank you all for now, bye
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> make sure you have a way to connect to irc when wireless gets lost
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> like another pc or a wired connection
[10:41] <franz> yes, i have two computers luckily
[10:42] <cox377> God bless KVM switches ; )
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> well, then don't worry about losing wlan too much, if it happens for you at all
[10:42] <franz> ok, thanks.  Bye
[10:42] <freakey> can anyone explain particioning to me?
[10:43] <cox377> i have a question to anyone who can answer it, with linux do u do system clean ups/degragments?
[10:43] <cox377> freakey: what do u wanna know?
[10:43] <oputres> Hmm, although I enabled the archives, adding the multiverse line Adept still can't find ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-utils but only the ndisgtk and ndiswrapper_source. How can this be?
[10:45] <cox377> freakey: for your second question 6 gig should be fine as my boot drive is a 7gig xbox drive
[10:46] <cox377> freakey: main chat mate as i aint registered
[10:47] <cox377> Yeh i'
[10:47] <cox377> yeh i'm after a few xbox's, so useful
[11:19] <radone> Please could anyone give me a point what is name of package for development? I've forgotten its name....
[11:20] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[11:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[11:20] <Hobbsee> radone: that one?  ^
[11:22] <radone> unfortunately no, it was package with name something like elementary-devel but I can't remember its name :(
[11:28] <riri> Hi
[11:28] <riri> QtUitools is missing
[11:29] <riri> how can i get it ?
[11:29] <drayen_> has anyone else noticed instabilty (hanging and crashing out) of firefox in kubuntu 64?
[11:29] <riri> i am using kubuntu dapper
[11:29] <Hobbsee> !search qtuitools
[11:29] <ubotu> Found nothing
[11:29] <Hobbsee> !search qt
[11:30] <ubotu> Found: disks, browsers, torrent, qt
[11:30] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[11:31] <riri> i did it but nothing... it was a bug has it been debugged ?
[11:32] <drayen_> !search libqt4-gui
[11:32] <ubotu> Found nothing
[11:32] <drayen_> !search qt4-qtconfig
[11:32] <ubotu> Found nothing
[11:32] <riri> all qt4 is already installed
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> Goodmorning !
[11:33] <drayen_> oh
[11:33] <riri> hi
[11:34] <riri> i read it's a bug but i didn't see if it was debugged
[11:34] <riri> from april 2006
[11:39] <riri> no more ideas about qtuitools ?
[12:01] <kc> hi guys
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> hi kc
[12:02] <kc> hi milhouse
[12:02] <MilhousePunkRock> anyone running kubuntu on a ThinkPad, preferably T23 or at least T2x?
[12:04] <antinobody> can anyone explain to me how to sign the code of conduct online?
[12:10] <TheHighChild> anyone use EasyUbuntu?
[12:13] <Emess> hey
[12:13] <Emess> i just installed dapper and when i tried to login under X the mouse cursor stayed the same text icon, and the keyboard stopped responding, any ideas?
[12:17] <fiyawerx> Hi guys, trying to find out something about wireless with kubuntu on 6.06
[12:18] <fiyawerx> after a boot, i go to wireless assistant, pick my network (have the settings in there), and it says there's an error, yet it connects
[12:18] <fiyawerx> but it won't connect before i do that
[12:19] <fiyawerx> is there a way to make sure that it automates and connects if something happens to the network? or the router resets, etc..?
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> that would be good to know fiyawerx
[12:21] <fiyawerx> otherwise it seems i have to manually connect it every boot
[12:22] <phreak_> hey
[12:22] <phreak_> so, i get the message that apt is allready open when i try to runn adapt
[12:22] <phreak_> but its not really open
[12:23] <phreak_> or is apt, or anyting even like it
[12:23] <TheHighChild> are you sure there isn't an errant process?
[12:23] <phreak_> how would i check that?
[12:24] <phreak_> its a new install
[12:24] <phreak_> i try'd to install easyubuntu and it crashed
[12:24] <weedar> apt-get (and also wget) complains about "Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8118 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)" - Any reason why it is trying to connect to a local port?
[12:24] <TheHighChild> phreak_: Same just happened to me. lol. try 'dpkg --configure -a'
[12:24] <weedar> I'm assuming it is trying to use a proxy like privoxy, but how do I stop it from doing that? :)
[12:25] <phreak_> thanks
[12:25] <TheHighChild> work?
[12:25] <phreak_> its doing something :S
[12:42] <ChunAway> #join #newton
[12:42] <ChunAway> whoops
[12:43] <Lynoure> :)
[12:44] <ChunAway> on some other distro's you could make kde show up w/ the grub/lilo bootloader OS selections on the restart menu, anyone know how to do this w/ kubuntu?
[12:46] <ubuntu> HELP!!!
[12:48] <scheuri> Kayde: there is NO need to shout
[12:49] <TheHighChild> whats up ubuntulog
[12:49] <TheHighChild> whats up Kayde
[12:49] <Kayde> scheuri: erm...?
[12:49] <scheuri>  *** ubuntu nennt sich nun Kayde.
[12:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Kayde, writing in capital letters is considered shouting
[12:50] <scheuri> MilhousePunkRock: thanks
[12:50] <ChunAway> well, he did yell help =p
[12:50] <Kayde> i am running the kubuntu 6.06 and i cant install it...i click the install icon and nothing happens..its says its loading then nothing happenbs
[12:50] <scheuri> he really did...:)
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> a little unspecific though
[12:50] <scheuri> MilhousePunkRock: indeed
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> it takes a while, kayde, be patient
[12:50] <ChunAway> reburn your CD
[12:50] <Kayde> i waiter 1 hour
[12:50] <ChunAway> if it's acting abnormally retarded
[12:50] <Kayde> its not a burnt copy...
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> i would highly suggest to do the MD5-check on the bootprompt
[12:51] <Kayde> ?
[12:51] <scheuri> Kayde: you ordered it from canonical?
[12:51] <Kayde> no, shipit.ubuntu.org...
[12:51] <Kayde> i have a  login
[12:51] <MilhousePunkRock> = canonical
[12:51] <Kayde> it is?
[12:52] <MilhousePunkRock> i think so
[12:52] <apokryphos> well, it's Ubuntu; it's just sponsored (as the whole of Ubuntu is) by Canonical
[12:52] <Kayde> ohh yes, i understand now,
[12:52] <ChunAway> your CD could be bad, look and see if there's scratches,    try downloading it and burning it to a CD
[12:52] <scheuri> ya...sorry...apo is way more correct
[12:52] <MilhousePunkRock> maybe you got a bad CD?
[12:52] <Kayde> ok...it worked the first time i installed it...same cd~different pc...
[12:53] <scheuri> Kayde: what is different with this pc now?
[12:53] <Kayde> erm...not much
[12:53] <Kayde> 200megahertz
[12:53] <MilhousePunkRock> wow, that's brave... ;-)
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> or is it a difference of 200 Mhz?
[12:54] <Kayde> ok...noone has ideas-cos ill try annother cd...come to think of it i orderd 2 for this reason ;)
[12:54] <TheHighChild> very brave.
[12:54] <Kayde> brave?!
[12:54] <gelex> i had the same experience, checking MD5SUM and reburning solved it
[12:54] <Kayde> t ok
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> is 200 MHz the speed or the difference in speed to the other PC?
[12:55] <TheHighChild> Kayde: Are you installing on a 200 mhz machine/
[12:55] <ChunAway> i've had a old/bad cd drive before where it wouldn't read some cds that other comps could read
[12:55] <ChunAway> ugggh go vector linux or damn small linux for old/old comps  =X
[12:55] <Kayde> LOL if that was the spead~it would be lucky to turn on!!
[12:55] <TheHighChild> Well...
[12:55] <Kayde> its 500 and something mghz
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> That's still going to be tough
[12:56] <Kayde> ohh yea ;) of course
[12:56] <Kayde> :)
[12:56] <Kayde> i feel a fool
[12:56] <TheHighChild> Def check the cd, then do a memtest
[12:56] <Emess> vector is a great distro
[12:56] <ChunAway> try sticking in your other computer's cd drive into that comp
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> maybe you'd rather want Xubuntu? XFce is supposed to be much more lightweighted than KDE
[12:56] <ChunAway> yea xfce is a lot faster
[12:56] <Emess> no. ubuntu doesnt like slow computers
[12:57] <Emess> xfce is still middle weight
[12:57] <Emess> Kayde: how much ram and whats the cpu speed?
[12:57] <achraf> hello, am trying to boot a diskless kubuntu 6.06 machine, it boots almost fine, but i get alot of errors about /proc does not exist, though when i created the dir and try to mount it from fstab, the machine freeze while loading with the error : RPC call returned error 101.
[12:57] <freakey> Xfce is lightwait compared to gnome, KDE, windows, or OS X
[12:57] <Emess> and frakishly heavy when compared to flux, icewm, or enlightenment
[12:58] <achraf> i cant load the X, but i can get a shell, i cant see mount, /etc/mtab does not exist,  when i do mkdir /proc;mount -t proc /proc /proc it works fine,, but the next time u reboot it freeze with that error
[12:58] <Kayde> :) se yaz
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> CU Kayde
[12:58] <ChunHere> lates kayde,   ii still prefer xfce over icewm =p
[12:58] <Emess> i prefer enlightenment
[12:59] <Emess> damn anotehr half hour tillt his update is done...
[12:59] <MilhousePunkRock> But KDE is so damn pretty... Who cares if it's slower... ;-)
[12:59] <ChunHere> have you tried e17?
[01:00] <ChunHere> yea i think we all like kde since we're in this channel =p =p
[01:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I didn't really try anything else other than KDE, Kubuntu was the only Live CD to recognise my WLAN properly
[01:00] <freakey> e17 is amazzing
[01:00] <freakey> is there a package for ubuntu?
[01:01] <Emess> e17 doesnt work on my box :(
[01:01] <freakey> Enlightenment rocks for term papers
[01:01] <freakey> why, your AMD 64 or something?
[01:01] <Emess> lol
[01:01] <Emess> wait, comp-sci term papers or philosophy term papers?
[01:01] <Emess> freakey: OpenBSD only supports e16
[01:02] <emonkey> I had some e17 repo which worked fine, but that was for hoary and it's a while ago....
[01:02] <Emess> my aim is to build an ultra customised, secure, but easy to use and works as soon as its setup version of OpenBSD running e16 with custom thems and pretty looks and a specially designed firewall :D
[01:03] <emonkey> sounds nice :P
[01:03] <Emess> yeah
[01:03] <Emess> it is but the firewall bit is getting hard
[01:04] <ChunHere> i haven't tried xgl w/ kubuntu yet, has anyone here tried it?
[01:04] <Emess> http://kubuntu.org/images/kubuntu-mug.jpg <--can i buy this mug somewhere?
[01:04] <ChunHere> i usu use clarkconnect linux for a firewall
[01:04] <Emess> im designing my own firewall :P
[01:04] <Emess> although it does use iptables as a backbone
[01:05] <emonkey> sure .... what else? ipchains? :P
[01:05] <Emess> but that parts more for routing and crap voer the network
[01:06] <gelex> may pinoy ba dito? usap tayo
[01:06] <Emess> lol
[01:06] <ChunHere> aw man, can't understand that, pinoy?    i like tilapia and adobo hahaha
[01:06] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:07] <emonkey> sal
[01:09] <fiyawerx> anyone know how to make kubuntu connect to your wireless network automatically? i ahve to go into internet - wireless assistant to do it every time it boots
[01:10] <Emess> what do you want wireless for anyway?
[01:10] <fiyawerx> because my computer's 3 rooms away from my router
[01:11] <imbrandon> Emess, you can get the mug at kubuntu.de
[01:11] <Emess> my computer is 60 meters away from my router, and i dont use wireless :S
[01:11] <fiyawerx> why not?
[01:11] <Emess> i bought this little thing from netgear, and one end plugs into a powerpoint, and you connect a eth cable intot he otehr end
[01:11] <Emess> and it sends your data over powercabling in the house
[01:12] <Emess> fast, cheap, and secure :D
[01:12] <fiyawerx> the wiring in the house sucks here, its old
[01:12] <fiyawerx> at any rate, i didnt' come here to debate why i'm using what I am :) just looking for a way to make it automatic
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> maybe KWiFiManager is one solution, fiyawerx...
[01:14] <MilhousePunkRock> I didn't really look into it yet though
[01:14] <fiyawerx> hmm will check it out
[01:14] <fiyawerx> installing now
[01:16] <fiyawerx> hmm this seems to come up a lot
[01:16] <fiyawerx> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:17] <Emess> gimme a sex, i remember seeing this thing for wireless autostarting
[01:17] <Emess> *sec
[01:17] <Emess> damnit the keys are right enxt to each other
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[01:20] <fiyawerx> hm gotta figure out how to get 1280x1024 too, hehe
[01:24] <Emess> everyone with the wireless issue might wanna look at this,t he last bit down the bottom called woe-fi: http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1585420756;fp;2;fpid;37
[01:24] <apokryphos> fiyawerx: check the faq in /topic
[01:24] <Emess> aparentkly you want NetworkManager for ubuntu
[01:25] <fiyawerx> thanks guys will check out both
[01:25] <Emess> although that article is for breezy...
[01:26] <edneymatias> hello all
[01:27] <fiyawerx> hm, at the time of that there was no network manager for breezy
[01:29] <Emess> that was also written 5 months ago
[01:29] <ninHer> hi all
[01:29] <Emess> iv got the magazine its from sitting on my desk right now :P
[01:29] <Emess> you should be able to find a NetworkManager thats either GNU or debianbased anyway
[01:30] <fiyawerx> brb
[01:31] <fiyawerx> apokryphos, thanks, got the resolution fixed :)
[01:31] <apokryphos> cool
[01:31] <fiyawerx> this looks sweet now, my lcd hates anything but 1280x
[01:33] <nexus> fuck ubuntu
[01:34] <nexus> mdr
[01:34] <Emess> ...
[01:34] <Emess> i jsut spent 45 minuts downloading 150mb of updates and its still using the old version? whatt eh ehll?!
[01:34] <nexus> i'm kidding, but i'm so disapointed that nobody answer them
[01:34] <nexus> (sorry for my english i'm french
[01:34] <nexus> )
[01:35] <Emess> yeah we know
[01:35] <freakey> lol
[01:35] <freakey> my roomates french
[01:35] <nexus> hello everybody
[01:35] <fiyawerx> hi nexus
[01:35] <nexus> :)
[01:35] <nexus> i'm happy to know and use ubuntu 6.06 TLS
[01:36] <fiyawerx> i'm loving it so far, im just afraid to go to work and have my router reset itself or something
[01:36] <fiyawerx> hehe
[01:36] <freakey> why the hatred nexus?
[01:36] <fiyawerx> hmm need to set up remote access too before i do
[01:36] <fiyawerx> and im deathly afraid to try to figureo ut why my sound isn't working, hehe
[01:36] <nexus> just a tips, don't use kde, i have lots of problems :(
[01:36] <fiyawerx> really?
[01:37] <freakey> lol
[01:37] <freakey> if you want a nice KDE experiance, use mandrake
[01:37] <nexus> i have the dvd of ubuntu 6.06 TLS (drapper drake) and i install the package kubuntu-deskop, and............. argggg
[01:37] <nexus> kernel panic mdr
[01:37] <freakey> lol
[01:37] <fiyawerx> oh, so far i havn't had any problems like that
[01:37] <freakey> didn't you say your french?
[01:37] <fiyawerx> just me not knowing how to do things
[01:38] <Emess> LOL
[01:38] <freakey> Mandrivia is french, and they have a nice KDE
[01:38] <nexus> before i recompile my kernel twice
[01:38] <nexus> :)
[01:38] <Emess> isnt it mandriva now? i stopped using mandrake after version 8
[01:38] <nexus> backtrack
[01:38] <nexus> use kde
[01:38] <nexus> and
[01:38] <freakey> 9.2 was awsome, havn't used it much since then
[01:38] <nexus> power usefull :)
[01:38] <freakey> the PLF mirrors for it where nice too, URPMI worked better for me than APT
[01:39] <nexus> my list of prefer distrib:   gentoo/debian/backtrack/slackware/ubuntu
[01:39] <nexus> gentoo is to me the best :)))))
[01:39] <Emess> lol teh dapper mirror is in UWA, i may as well walk down there and ask them to burn it for me!
[01:39] <Emess> ewww gentoo
[01:39] <nexus> :)
[01:40] <freakey> gentoo users are like those people who drive honda's and put wings on the back
[01:40] <fiyawerx> lol
[01:40] <chewyf5> is the file /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup in Ubuntu-Dapper still in use ?
[01:40] <nexus> so, i quit now because i don't undersand all and i "must" smoke a cigarette; i'm happy to speak with you, my really name is 3v1l_j0k3
[01:41] <nexus> see you on after......
[01:41] <nexus> bye :)
[01:41] <Chousuke>  like nexus better. :P
[01:41] <nexus> :)
[01:41] <Chousuke> hm, damn irssi eats my letters.
[01:43] <Emess> whats the diff between dapper desktop and dapper alternate?
[01:44] <freakey> One is for doing server installs, thin client, and server installs i belive
[01:44] <Emess> ah k
[01:44] <freakey> pretty much, unless your a power user, ignore
[01:44] <chewyf5> dapper desktop is a LiveCD and dapper alternate ist the debian-way of installing a dapper system
[01:44] <chewyf5> 4 example a server
[01:44] <freakey> Live is shiney
[01:44] <Emess> so which is the normal way to install it?
[01:44] <chewyf5> i use the alternate
[01:45] <freakey> The live is nice because you'll know if your hardware works first before you install
[01:45] <freakey> alternative is probs faster
[01:45] <Emess> this is dumb
[01:45] <Emess> the main australian mirror for it is physically located 20 minutes walk from me
[01:46] <Emess> but its too cold to go out and ask them to burn it for me
[01:47] <chewyf5> how may degrees do you have outside emess
[01:47] <Emess> 2 deg celcius
[01:47] <freakey> shit
[01:48] <pinucset> Emess me 38
[01:48] <Emess> mmm it'll finish downloading at midnight
[01:48] <pinucset> Emess you can be happy
[01:48] <freakey> i got 75F outside
[01:48] <Emess> \and then iv got an exam tomorow.....in the university where the iso is held lol
[01:48] <freakey> thats like 24C
[01:48] <freakey> should hit about 30C today
[01:48] <Emess> fuckit il see if i can use the live cd
[01:48] <pinucset> come to spain and you will get hot...
[01:49] <freakey> hmm, actually like 34
[01:49] <freakey> Texas beats all yall on heat :)
[01:49] <ninHer> i'm at barna.....gplv3, right now
[01:50] <ninHer> well, .....in a short break ;-)
[01:50] <chewyf5> ok emess i can understand you but the experience of ubuntu makes the way outside warm :-)
[01:50] <Emess> lol
[01:50] <freakey> lol
[01:50] <Emess> iv been using ubuntu for ages
[01:50] <Emess> its jsut i need dapper because breezy doesnt work on this comp im trying to get it on
[01:50] <freakey> ages?
[01:50] <freakey> I thought it was only like 3 years old :P
[01:51] <Emess> maybe last 2 and a bit years?
[01:51] <chewyf5> lol
[01:51] <Emess> since i was 16...
[01:51] <Emess> so september 2004
[01:51] <Emess> been using slackware before that, and mandrake before that
[01:52] <freakey> lol
[01:53] <Chousuke> I can't remember when I started using Linux :/
[01:53] <chewyf5> does anyone know something about the boot up of kdm ?
[01:53] <Chousuke> I've been without windows for at least three years already I guess.
[01:53] <Emess> i remember my dad installed Mandrake 7 for me
[01:53] <Emess> and im 17 now so lol
[01:53] <chewyf5> @choumsuke my flat is a gates-free zone
[01:54] <chewyf5> sorry @Chousuke
[01:54] <Chousuke> chewyf5: You should use tabcomplete. :)
[01:54] <Chousuke> less typing and less typos.
[01:55] <chewyf5> sorry but my tab is broken :)
[01:55] <Chousuke> Ah. That's bad.
[01:55] <Emess> no. tab complete ie evil. i tried to /kick someone once, and it /kill them lol
[01:55] <Emess> got me k-lined for a week
[01:55] <Chousuke> Emess: haha
[01:55] <Chousuke> Emess: be more careful :P
[01:57] <chewyf5> ok now i will go see u
[02:00] <noaXess_> ho
[02:05] <DocTomoe> I have a problem with apache2 on kubuntu dapper - all packages are installed, but apache2 does not seem to start, even after sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start. Any Ideas on this?
[02:06] <DocTomoe> Additional information: if I enter "http://localhost/" into my konqueror, the cups favicon is shown, but I get a "no connection to server" information page.
[02:25] <bobstro> is something "officially" broken with the package feeds, namely us.archive.ubuntu.com? it was working well until mid-day yesterday. now i get size mismatch, connection failed and not authorized messages. someone else here was having same issues yesterday.
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> the us server used to be renoun for its problems, i havent looked recently though
[02:29] <gnomefreak> still is
[02:29] <gnomefreak> they are having issues as of 12 hours ago
[02:30] <bobstro> gnomefreak:  is there a status page? i was getting ready to start ripping apart my setup when i realized others had the same problem.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> bobstro: no just remove us. from the repos
[02:30] <bobstro> gnomefreak:  ok, thanks.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> that should fix it (if its the us servers) i use either no CC or de
[02:31] <gnomefreak> those are the most stable IMHO
[02:31] <thoreauputic> bobstro: the us. mirrror has been more or less on crack for ages
[02:31] <thoreauputic> no idea what the issue is
[02:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !webcam
[02:31] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:32] <gnomefreak> wtf :(
[02:35] <Seveas> thoreauputic, the us. mirror will not be on crack anymore
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: that's good to hear :)
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: what is the story?
[02:36] <Seveas> thoreauputic, anl now hosts it. anl doesn't fuck up that badly 
[02:36] <thoreauputic> ah - good :)
[02:36] <Hobbsee> haha
[02:37] <kumar> kasdf
[02:38] <Healot> hei yar, kumar
[02:38] <kumar> What's up!
[02:38] <kumar> Where am I?
[02:39] <cotroler> hello ppl
[02:40] <cotroler> i am using vmware, how do i install vmware tools pls?
[02:40] <Healot> from the menu... selected the Install VMware Tool yet?
[02:41] <cotroler> yes i got 2 files now
[02:41] <Healot> if your guest OS is one of the supported GNU/Linux distro, VMware will mount the CD image on your CD ROM
[02:41] <cotroler> 1 .rpm and 1 .tar.gz
[02:42] <Healot> cotroler: btw it is better if you read the VMware Help file
[02:42] <cotroler> where is it?
[02:43] <Healot> menu Help ->
[02:43] <cotroler> sry but its my first time using linux :)
[02:43] <Healot> I don;t give a bs about that... menu Help to go with VMware btw
[02:43] <Healot> on your Vmware window of course
[02:43] <cotroler> k tnx :)
[02:44] <Healot> look for the guest OS list, if yours supported... read the instruction on how to install VMware tools
[02:46] <cotroler> yes i am trying to follow them if i get stuck i tell you...tnx
[02:46] <Healot> tw, I am not supposed to support VMware... use that at your own risk
[02:47] <cotroler> lol k
[02:49] <bobstro> cotroler:  what is guest os you're using
[02:50] <bobstro> Emess:  what is this firewall you're building?
[02:50] <cotroler> i am using kubuntu
[02:50] <bobstro> cotroler:  what OS are you installing as a vmware guest?
[02:50] <cotroler> i have windows xp
[02:51] <cotroler> and as a guest i have kubuntu
[02:51] <Emess> its pretty much a standard firewall only easy for the dumbest of windows users to figure out. and its mostly the gui that makes it special, not the actually friewall itself
[02:51] <Emess> cotroler: do it the otehr way round :P
[02:51] <cotroler> i use windows for my collage studies :P
[02:52] <bobstro> cotroler:  ah, installing vmware tools can be a pain in the ass. you essentially mount a (virtual) cd that has the files you need on it, and install from there. there are some overview docs, but they're not hand-holds.
[02:52] <bobstro> cotroler:  are you an art student?
[02:52] <cotroler> no an IT student
[02:52] <bobstro> cotroler:  ah. you wrote "collage" studies. :)
[02:53] <cotroler> sry :(
[02:53] <bobstro> Emess:  i'm pleased with a couple of the current gui implementations. at least understandable by most (well, many) end users.
[02:54] <Healot> I am learning collage :)
[02:54] <cotroler> i got problem
[02:54] <cotroler> as the install help tells me u ned to login as root and kubuntu doesn't have rrot
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> run sudo -i
[02:55] <Emess> this is more for a personalised OpenBSD distro though
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> kubuntu definately does have root
[02:55] <emonkey> or sudo su or sudo bash
[02:55] <cotroler> tnx
[02:56] <Healot> !root
[02:56] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:57] <cotroler> btw i am trying to open a RPM file ...and it gets me a prompt to choos the program...which program i use?
[02:57] <Emess> RPM? you use mandriva or suse to open that
[02:57] <Chousuke> cotroler: you shouldn't try to install rpm files on ubuntu
[02:57] <Emess> or redhat or fedora
[02:57] <Chousuke> Emess: actually, you only need rpm :P
[02:57] <Emess> ubuntu is debian based, either use .DEB files or be smart about it an compile form source
[02:58] <Chousuke> cotroler: try to find a native ubuntu package
[02:58] <cotroler> but the files for VMWARE are in RPM :S
[02:58] <Emess> Chousuke: getting another distro is easier than installing rpm on debian :P
[02:58] <Healot> alien, cotroler
[02:58] <Healot> !infor alien
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about infor alien
[02:58] <Chousuke> !alien
[02:58] <Healot> !info alien
[02:58] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat package management system. Not nearly as good as apt/dpkg. Avoid using .rpm packages on Ubuntu and if you really need them, use alien.
[02:58] <bobstro> cotroler:  you can use tar versions too
[02:58] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[02:58] <cotroler> wait i got FEDORA CORE 5
[02:58] <arnau> when i try to write a character with an accent the accent appears before of the character, like this: `a. Any solution?
[02:59] <cotroler> is that better than kubuntu?
[02:59] <Chousuke> cotroler: no! :D
[02:59] <cotroler> why? lol
[02:59] <cotroler> ps i intend to run a test web server
[02:59] <Chousuke> because it's not.
[02:59] <Chousuke> ;P
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> It may be faster
[02:59] <Chousuke> but VMWare is available as non-distro-specific packages too
[02:59] <Chousuke> those have install scripts.
[03:00] <Healot> the tarball, cotroler
[03:00] <cotroler> yes i got on
[03:00] <cotroler> *i got a vmware tools in tar.gz
[03:00] <cotroler> is that good?
[03:01] <Healot> if your guest OS is supported (VMware supplies the precompiled module with specific kernel version), then use the RPM to avoid recompilation
[03:01] <Healot> that's why I suggest you to read help file...
[03:02] <cotroler> i am reading the help file but i cant understand a lot :S
[03:02] <Healot> then don;t use VMWare hohoho
[03:03] <cotroler> hehe :P
[03:03] <Healot> !info qemu
[03:03] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB
[03:03] <cotroler> is qemu like vmware?
[03:09] <radone> I have problem with firefox - When I store homepage after next restart of firefox it is set to default value.
[03:09] <radone> Has anyone noticed the same problem?
[03:09] <Healot> you may have a read only profile, radone
[03:10] <radone> well, but I have absolutely  no idea which file it could be...
[03:11] <cotroler> how to logout of sudo su?
[03:11] <Lynoure> cotroler: exit
[03:11] <Healot> exit
[03:11] <cotroler> tnx
[03:11] <Healot> just like the good old cmd.exe
[03:12] <cotroler> hehe tnx ppl u have been to lot of help
[03:12] <cotroler> bye for now :)
[03:12] <exceswater> hi all
[03:12] <exceswater> who can tell me how to install wolfenstein et ?
[03:12] <exceswater> i got the file from the net
[03:12] <exceswater> but dunno what to do with it
[03:13] <radone> exceswater: chmod +x filename; ./filename
[03:13] <radone> exceswater: I guess....
[03:14] <exceswater> it doesn't work
[03:14] <exceswater> :(
[03:15] <radone> what is the name of file you have downloaded?
[03:15] <exceswater> et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:15] <exceswater> is ok to : ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run    ?
[03:16] <Healot> exceswater: does the website says that is so?
[03:16] <radone> sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:16] <exceswater> 10x
[03:17] <radone> np
[03:19] <arnau> when i try to write a character with an accent the accent appears before of the character, like this: `a. Any solution?
[03:22] <exceswater> it won't work
[03:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i fix this error?
[03:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ImportError: No module named gnome.ui
[03:23] <Healot> python program?
[03:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it appeared when i launched lauchcam2 to install the drivers for the webcam
[03:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes it is in python as far as i can see
[03:23] <Healot> seems like it uses GNOME+Python binding
[03:24] <Healot> did you install GNOME latelY? if not, i guess this is where we've come to
[03:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no, i didn't
[03:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i had it in the past
[03:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how big is the gnome package?
[03:25] <seaLne> can anyone suggest why knetworkmanager says "no network device found" when i have wired and wireless
[03:25] <Healot> define: big
[03:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Quote: knetworkmanager 0.1 is a program that lets you do absolutely nothing.
[03:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> seaLne: maybe because udev is not detecting them
[03:25] <Healot> !info libgtk2
[03:25] <ubotu> Package libgtk2 does not exist in dapper
[03:25] <Healot> !info libgtk
[03:25] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[03:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> seaLne: why don't you use ifconfig?
[03:26] <MilhousePunkRock> and that is directly from the help of knetworkmanager
[03:26] <seaLne> Tallia1Kubuntu: what do you mean by use ifconfig?
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> seaLne: ifconfig is the main program to manage netwoek in linux
[03:27] <seaLne> i know, but how did that relate to my question?
[03:27] <MilhousePunkRock> So you are familiar with some networking stuff, seaLne?
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> seaLne: oh, i taught that you didn't know how to have the network working sorry
[03:28] <seaLne> MilhousePunkRock: yep
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> your quesiton seemed to be different :P
[03:28] <seaLne> sorry to clarify my wired and wireless are detected fine and work, but knwetworkmanager dosen't see them
[03:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I do have my wireless running... Sure, otherwise I wouldn't be here.. ;-) But how do I make KDE connect to it automatically on start up?
[03:29] <seaLne> i'd like to use knwetworkmanager for selecting wireless networks
[03:29] <exceswater> hey
[03:29] <exceswater> who can help me with wokfenstein et
[03:29] <exceswater> in won't install
[03:29] <exceswater> :(
[03:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I could, if it was fraggin' you in it... :-P
[03:29] <seaLne> MilhousePunkRock: do you have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for it with "auto"?
[03:29] <Healot> read the instruction on the download site, exceswater
[03:30] <exceswater> i read
[03:30] <MilhousePunkRock> most likely not, seaLne
[03:30] <exceswater> and cannot understand
[03:30] <exceswater> it halts... error
[03:30] <Healot> do you understand, oh can't help you on that
[03:30] <MilhousePunkRock> that might be related to a bad download, execswater
[03:32] <MilhousePunkRock> execswater, make sure you get the True Combat: Elite mod
[03:36] <MrObvious> seaLne: Use network-manager-kde
[03:37] <chavo> exceswater, are you trying to install it somewhere that you don't have write permissions
[03:37] <seaLne> MrObvious: sorry i'm not sure what you mean?
[03:38] <MrObvious> That's about the only thing that works.
[03:38] <MrObvious> That or do it manually.
[03:38] <MrObvious> (sudo ifup eth0)
[03:38] <MrObvious> (sudo iwconfig essid linksys)
[03:38] <MrObvious> (sudo dhclient)
[03:38] <MrObvious> That's what I do.
[03:38] <exceswater> dunno chavo :D
[03:39] <MrObvious> Also sudo iwconfig eth0 rate 54M or something like that (not sure ATM) sets it to A/G speeds
[03:39] <chavo> exceswater, try running the script with sudo :)
[03:39] <seaLne> i know how to do it manually but i want to use knetworkmanager which says "no network device found"
[03:39] <MrObvious> It's broken.
[03:40] <Healot> exceswater: installed your game yet?
[03:41] <exceswater> not yet
[03:41] <exceswater> i try to glibc
[03:41] <exceswater> :D hehe
[03:44] <MilhousePunkRock> execswater hang on, I am just downloading it... So we can fail to install together
[03:44] <exceswater> :D
[03:44] <exceswater> yup MilhousePunkRock
[03:44] <exceswater> brotherhood of noobs
[03:45] <seaLne> i installed et about a week ago with no probs
[03:45] <chavo> exceswater, you're going to need the update to 2.6 also, almost all servers run 2.6
[03:45] <exceswater> no problemo
[03:45] <exceswater> but it still fails
[03:45] <exceswater> i did:: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-common
[03:45] <exceswater> after that sh ... filename
[03:45] <exceswater> and it still crashes
[03:45] <chavo> exceswater, it should run even without gtk
[03:46] <chavo> it should fall back to ncurses display
[03:46] <exceswater> aaa?
[03:46] <exceswater> sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:46] <exceswater> i did that
[03:47] <exceswater> and it stops
[03:48] <reagleBRKLN> trying to use kerry, how do I actually make it start indexing?
[03:48] <chavo> hmm sounds like maybe a bad download
[03:48] <MilhousePunkRock> how do i set the port for KTorrent?
[03:48] <exceswater> and say something like:
[03:48] <exceswater> Sorry.
[03:48] <exceswater> /home/exces/.setup14056: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:48] <exceswater> ./setup.sh: line 143: 14093 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL
[03:48] <exceswater> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[03:49] <exceswater> sorry for pasting here
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> or rather, how do I perform any settings in KTorrent
[03:49] <exceswater> why is that
[03:49] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: settings -> configure ktorrent
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> thx apokryphos, i overread that
[03:49] <apokryphos> eXCeSS_: when do you get that?
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> was exactly where i expected it
[03:49] <exceswater> hi apokryphos ... my kubuntu Guru :D
[03:50] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: same as all KDE applications :P
[03:50] <exceswater> after that   .... sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[03:50] <exceswater> it verifies integrity of archive ....
[03:50] <exceswater> and that error
[03:50] <apokryphos> what is that?
[03:50] <exceswater> Guru....
[03:50] <seaLne> i think i may have found my problem with knetworkmanager, apparently it ignores any devices that have any entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:50] <exceswater> someone who is kinda leader
[03:51] <exceswater> spiritual leader :d
[03:51] <apokryphos> don't worry, it's not me :P
[03:51] <chavo> exceswater, install libgtk-1.2
[03:51] <exceswater> how
[03:51] <exceswater> i am new
[03:51] <apokryphos> !info libgtk
[03:51] <exceswater> i don;t understand many things
[03:51] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[03:51] <apokryphos> !find libgtk
[03:51] <ubotu> Found: libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-common, libgtk1.2-dbg, libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk2-perl (and 93 others)
[03:51] <chavo> sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2
[03:51] <apokryphos> still, it's a bug for it to segfault like that
[03:52] <exceswater> : Couldn't find package libgtk-1.2
[03:52] <exceswater> exces@exces:~/waterman/kituri/kitgames$
[03:52] <chavo> although I remember it falling back to an ncurses display
[03:52] <chavo> libgtk1.2 sorry
[03:53] <Healot> libgtk1.2-common > exceswater
[03:53] <chavo> apokryphos, yeah I remeber running it on a clean install with no gtk1.2 and it used ncurses
[03:54] <MilhousePunkRock> what's the other port for in KTorrent? I used Azureus and Torrent before, I never had to set up 2 ports...
[03:55] <tobberoth> How do I use the USB capabilities of an Ipod shuffle on KUbuntu??
[03:55] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: I think that's just the port it looks for the tracker on, and I believe that's the default
[03:55] <apokryphos> tobberoth: /msg ubotu ipod
[03:56] <MilhousePunkRock> so will it work now that i entered the same port for both?
[03:56] <tobberoth> apokryphos: That doesn't mention USB capabilities, only how to work with music
[03:56] <MilhousePunkRock> i just looked at my win machine, azureus uses the same port for both
[03:56] <tobberoth> It's not the same thing
[03:56] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: I don't think you should change the tracker port
[03:56] <apokryphos> tobberoth: well what do you mean, then?
[03:56] <MilhousePunkRock> but i would have to open the port on my router then??!
[03:57] <tobberoth> apokryphos: I mean, ipod shuffle can emulate a normal USB memory, which is what I need. In iTunes, you go into ipod options and decide how much of the iPod should be USB and how much should be MP3
[03:57] <apokryphos> no, I don't think so
[03:57] <tobberoth> I need to know how to do it on ubuntu
[03:57] <apokryphos> I think it's just hte port it *gets* the tracker from
[03:57] <apokryphos> leave it, and see how things go
[03:57] <exceswater> hey
[03:57] <exceswater> apokryphos: when i installed kubuntu
[03:58] <apokryphos> tobberoth: well if you mount it you should be able to drag things straight into there
[03:58] <exceswater> i choosed only one user
[03:58] <exceswater> i've seen nothing about root
[03:58] <apokryphos> exceswater: check the FAQ in /topic
[03:58] <exceswater> now it seems like i cannot acces root
[03:58] <apokryphos> first question :)
[03:58] <apokryphos> dang, ktorrent has gotten nice
[03:58] <tobberoth> apokryphos: No, ipods don't work like that. They are locked to stop piracy.
[03:59] <MilhousePunkRock> well, so when it's outgoing my router won't block it AFAIK
[03:59] <tobberoth> You need to make a part of it into USB to be able to add files without this huge import/export deal
[03:59] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: it should be fine as it is
[04:01] <apokryphos> tobberoth: works just fine
[04:01] <apokryphos> perhaps you're mounting it with incorrect permissions
[04:02] <tobberoth> apokryphos: Maybe it's not the same with normal iPods
[04:02] <tobberoth> Shuffles have to be enabled
[04:02] <apokryphos> tobberoth: what permissions is it mounted with?
[04:02] <tobberoth> No idea, it's just mounted
[04:02] <apokryphos> tobberoth: grep 'ipod
[04:02] <tobberoth> Well apo, I'll play around with it and see what happens
[04:03] <apokryphos> *grep 'ipod' /etc/mtab
[04:03] <apokryphos> dang, I forgot how nice the ipod kioslave was
[04:04] <MilhousePunkRock> how do i "link" torrents to KTorrent in Firefox?
[04:04] <exceswater> so apokryphos
[04:04] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: I think you'd have to perhaps change some gnome setting
[04:05] <apokryphos> exceswater: hi
[04:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Gnome settings in KDE? lol
[04:05] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: the firefox in Ubuntu is packaged to use gnome libs unfortunately
[04:05] <MilhousePunkRock> oh
[04:05] <exceswater> hi  apokryphos
[04:05] <apokryphos> Firefox uses gtk
[04:05] <exceswater> so i did: et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[04:05] <apokryphos> right
[04:05] <exceswater> it says it;s installed
[04:05] <MilhousePunkRock> well, i can still copy and paste the torrent url into KT
[04:06] <apokryphos> yeah
[04:06] <exceswater> now i try to sh ...name of the game file
[04:06] <apokryphos> MilhousePunkRock: what does it try to open it with atm?
[04:06] <exceswater> should work
[04:06] <exceswater> ???
[04:06] <apokryphos> exceswater: I guess so, but I have no idea about that game/file (never tried it)
[04:06] <exceswater> hehe :D
[04:06] <exceswater> i mean
[04:06] <MilhousePunkRock> download failed, no assigned application
[04:07] <exceswater> Please enter the root password or hit enter to continue as is
[04:07] <exceswater> Password:
[04:07] <exceswater> /root/.setup14532: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:07] <exceswater> /tmp/selfgz14456/setup.sh: line 143: 14555 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL
[04:07] <exceswater> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[04:07] <exceswater> why that
[04:07] <apokryphos> please don't paste in here :P
[04:07] <exceswater> i even entered root pass
[04:07] <exceswater> ok
[04:07] <reagleBRKLN> does kubuntu dapper support inotify and extended attrs by default?
[04:07] <exceswater> sorry
[04:08] <apokryphos> exceswater: libgtk1.2 is definitely installed?
[04:08] <exceswater> yup
[04:08] <exceswater> just before
[04:08] <exceswater> it sais it;s installed
[04:08] <exceswater> remove and install again ?
[04:08] <apokryphos> exceswater: try running sudo sh
[04:09] <exceswater> and what can i do there ?
[04:09] <apokryphos> uh?
[04:09] <exceswater> if i sudo sh
[04:10] <apokryphos> sudo sh whatefile.sh
[04:10] <exceswater> i don't understand
[04:10] <exceswater> what should i do
[04:10] <exceswater> try to install game from here ?
[04:10] <apokryphos> instead of using sh as you did above, use sudo sh
[04:10] <|lostbyte|> Any idea why my dsl connection is not at its max ?
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> Contestion ratio probably
[04:11] <MilhousePunkRock> it rarely ever is, |lostbyte|
[04:11] <MilhousePunkRock> mine should be 6 mbit, but i only get 4 mbit
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, On Mandriva i get complete 256 kbps at bandwidth test.. now only 175 kbps
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> It you want the full connection speed you need to either setup baseband somehow or pay for a leased line
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, I get some 25 kb/sec only..
[04:12] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Want to know if i am missing something the pppd script !
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> lostbyte: What is the mtu set at ?
[04:13] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, I am using a USB Adsl Modem.
[04:13] <MilhousePunkRock> I am not the one to ask then, |lostbyte|
[04:13] <monkkey> hello, I was running a smooth ubuntu/kubuntu install, put in another graphics card (pci) to run in conjunction with my avg card in windows (dual boot), made no change to my ubuntu install, have removed the pci card now. But kubuntu when loaded will complete all the inital checks and loading of the kernal, then will simply display the kubuntu logo and do nothing else. I changed no settings. It is as it once was. any suggestions??
[04:13] <|lostbyte|> :( ok
[04:14] <exceswater> apokryphos: i get same error
[04:14] <exceswater> from that package
[04:15] <MilhousePunkRock> exceswater, you might want to download it again...
[04:15] <apokryphos> exceswater: it's definitely a bug since it segfaults, but it must also be looking for that .so in the wrong place
[04:15] <|lostbyte|> Why is it good to disable ipv6 ?
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> Why have something enabled you are not using
[04:15] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, How can i use it ?
[04:16] <|lostbyte|> Meaning dns that support it ?
[04:16] <exceswater> tell me how to remove that glib please
[04:16] <exceswater> and install it again
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: Use an isp which supports ipv6 or use tunneling over ipv4
[04:17] <MilhousePunkRock> exceswater, maybe "request reinstall" in adept?
[04:17] <exceswater> yup
[04:17] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, ok !
[04:17] <exceswater> you're right
[04:17] <tmdx120> hello room. Im having trouble detecting my thumbdrive (1gb mini cruzer) can anyone help?
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: If you are losing bandwidth you probably have the mtu set wrong
[04:17] <tmdx120> Im using dapper (64 bit)
[04:18] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, I think my isp support.. cause internet worked when my ipv6 was loaded.. is that accountable.
[04:18] <MilhousePunkRock> 5 more minutes till my Wolf ET download is finishes, exceswater
[04:18] <apokryphos> tmdx120: does it not appear under media:/ ?
[04:18] <MilhousePunkRock> let's see if I can install it
[04:18] <tmdx120> apokryhos: no
[04:18] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: good luck
[04:18] <exceswater> :d
[04:19] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, i didt have that options, and i am going to set it to mru 296 mtu 296 now..
[04:19] <apokryphos> tmdx120: usb?
[04:19] <exceswater> please tell me your file name
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> i need the True Combat: Elite mod as well, it rocks big time
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: try setting mtu 1492 to start with
[04:19] <exceswater> et-linux-2.55.x86.run ????
[04:19] <tmdx120> apokryphos: yes its is a usb
[04:19] <apokryphos> tmdx120: ok, what's the output of: ls /dev/sd* ?
[04:19] <MilhousePunkRock> et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[04:20] <apokryphos> (once it's plugged in, of course)
[04:20] <exceswater> hehe
[04:20] <exceswater> could be a problem that i have et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[04:20] <exceswater>  ?? ? ?
[04:20] <|lostbyte|> BRB.. testing..
[04:20] <tmdx120> apokryphos: no such file or directory
[04:20] <exceswater> and that could make install impossible ?
[04:20] <MilhousePunkRock> you will need the patch then I guess, exceswater
[04:20] <apokryphos> tmdx120: is it definitely plugged in?
[04:20] <exceswater> lol
[04:20] <MilhousePunkRock> i think it should install anyway
[04:20] <exceswater> how to patch if i cannot install it
[04:21] <tmdx120> apokryphos: absolutely, and the little lite is on.
[04:21] <exceswater> it gives me same error
[04:21] <apokryphos> tmdx120: curious. Ok, could you try removing it, waiting a few seconds, then put it back in
[04:21] <exceswater> but archive is ok
[04:21] <MilhousePunkRock> in case you have the ports set up for KTorrent, just go here:
[04:21] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.bittorrent.com/detail.html?infohash=243223AE5A39909DB07A338980F00DD868251F05&per_page=10&search=linux&index=9
[04:21] <apokryphos> tmdx120: try ls /dev/sd* again, and if there's no output, pastebin me the output of dmesg|tail
[04:21] <chavo> exceswater, the one I have is 2.56 and I have the pathc to 2.6
[04:21] <tmdx120> apokryphos: done adn the light is on again
[04:22] <exceswater> chavo: The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[04:22] <exceswater> why i get this
[04:22] <apokryphos> tmdx120: ok, do the other stuff
[04:22] <Dragoonz> OMG... i'm impressed behond belief
[04:22] <Dragoonz> That install kicked ass
[04:22] <apokryphos> =)
[04:23] <tmdx120> apokryphos: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1
[04:23] <apokryphos> tmdx120: ok, perfect :)
[04:23] <tmdx120> apokryphos: now what
[04:23] <apokryphos> tmdx120: try this: sudo mkdir /media/thumb && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb5 /media/thumb
[04:24] <Dragoonz> now to get openldap to work with AD and authenicate... anyone happend to have a good resource off the top of there head?
[04:24] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock:  please give me a link to your download
[04:24] <exceswater> :d
[04:24] <exceswater> i want to have same version
[04:24] <MilhousePunkRock> i already wrote it
[04:24] <MilhousePunkRock> 3 minutes ago
[04:24] <apokryphos> tmdx120: gah, ther'es a mistake there, don't do that command
[04:24] <tmdx120> apokryphos: oops
[04:24] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: i mean for the game
[04:24] <apokryphos> tmdx120: do this: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/thumb
[04:25] <apokryphos> tmdx120: don't worry, it wouldn't have ruined anything =)
[04:25] <MilhousePunkRock> i guess you have never used bittorrent before, exceswater?
[04:25] <exceswater> before yes
[04:25] <exceswater> on win
[04:25] <exceswater> on linux no
[04:25] <exceswater> god i hate bill
[04:25] <MilhousePunkRock> well, look into the internet folder of the k menu
[04:25] <MilhousePunkRock> KTorrent should be there
[04:25] <MilhousePunkRock> just download the torrent and open it with KTorrent
[04:26] <apokryphos> tmdx120: I apologise, but I have to shoot off now. It should be viewable now in /media/thumb
[04:26] <exceswater> k
[04:26] <exceswater> 10x
[04:26] <chavo> exceswater, I can give you the link to where I got mine, but you have to sign up to the site
[04:27] <chavo> only takes a second though
[04:27] <MilhousePunkRock> why not use the torrent i posted?
[04:27] <MilhousePunkRock> was really fast, avg speed 253,6 KB/s
[04:28] <serenity> i want to build a liveCD based on kubuntu. Are there any tutorials, tools, etc for this?
[04:28] <exceswater> the funny thing is that last time.. i managed to install it
[04:30] <MilhousePunkRock> so how do I install Wolf ET now?
[04:30] <exceswater> hehe
[04:30] <exceswater> sh etc
[04:30] <exceswater> et-linux-2.60.x86.run ????
[04:30] <exceswater> sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[04:30] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo sh <filename> ?
[04:30] <exceswater> last line
[04:30] <exceswater> sudo sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[04:31] <exceswater> and return to ask for help about errors
[04:31] <exceswater> :D
[04:31] <chavo> hmm all this et talk has got me itching to play
[04:31] <exceswater> hehe
[04:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Verifying archive integrity
[04:31] <exceswater> imagine that i am counter strike fan... and cannot play it :D
[04:32] <MilhousePunkRock> if you like counterstrike, you'll love True Combat: Elite
[04:32] <exceswater> it is free ? ? ? ?
[04:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Verifying archive integrity... All good
[04:32] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah
[04:32] <MilhousePunkRock> it's a mod for Wolf ET
[04:32] <exceswater> aaa
[04:32] <exceswater> IF I manage to make et work
[04:32] <MilhousePunkRock> pretty close to CS from what I've been told
[04:32] <exceswater> i may add that mod
[04:33] <exceswater> it runs ? ... your installer ?
[04:33] <MilhousePunkRock> seems so, the license agreement is here
[04:34] <exceswater> i hate you :)
[04:34] <MilhousePunkRock> just try the torrent link, I am seeding at the moment, so it will be 45 KB faster
[04:35] <exceswater> i am downloading it
[04:35] <MilhousePunkRock> too bad America's Army is discontinued on Linux
[04:35] <exceswater> i think that i'll be able to install it tomorrow
[04:35] <exceswater> i am at work now
[04:35] <MilhousePunkRock> besides the fact my laptop can't run it anyway
[04:35] <exceswater> and leaving home :D
[04:35] <exceswater> hehe
[04:35] <exceswater> what config is your laptop
[04:35] <exceswater>  ?  ?
[04:35] <exceswater> i love laptops
[04:36] <exceswater> i will buy one in autumn :D
[04:36] <MilhousePunkRock> P3M 1,1 Ghz, 256 MB RAM, S3 SuperSavage VidChip
[04:36] <MilhousePunkRock> it ran Wolf ET fine under Windows though
[04:37] <exceswater> nice
[04:38] <exceswater> i would like to have an alienware laptop
[04:38] <exceswater>  :d
[04:38] <exceswater> but there are things in life more important than computers...
[04:38] <exceswater> says my wife :D
[04:38] <MilhousePunkRock> seems like ET is working
[04:39] <MilhousePunkRock> :-P
[04:39] <exceswater> i hate u twice :D
[04:39] <exceswater> i will have it tomorrow
[04:39] <exceswater> bye all
[04:39] <exceswater> so long and thank you for the fish
[04:39] <MilhousePunkRock> thanks for all the fish*
[04:40] <serenity> i want to build a liveCD based on kubuntu. Are there any tutorials, tools, etc for this?
[04:40] <GullyFoyle> i installed artwiz fonts using apt but i can't find them to use in my theme. i ran xfontsel and they're not there. how do i find them?
[04:40] <MilhousePunkRock> CU exceswater
[04:41] <MilhousePunkRock> chavo, wanna play some?
[04:48] <spectercorp> quick question: has anyone had any luck getting Evolution to connect to exchange under kubuntu and if so, how?
[04:49] <spectercorp> when I try to set up the exchange account, it just gives me a field for user
[04:50] <spectercorp> anyone?
[04:51] <Dragoonz> anyone know where a good place to get openldap that will work with kubuntu.. as being new i don't want it to break
[04:54] <aeon17x> how do I get the recent programs to also appear in the K menu?
[04:55] <LjL> aeon17x: a suggestion, you might want to try the quicklauncher applet. it can be configured to know your *favorite* programs fairly well (rather than simply the *recent* ones)
[04:55] <LjL> aeon17x: but as for your exact question, let me look
[04:55] <spectercorp> most should appear automatically. sometimes it requires a restart of the x server (ctrl+alt+backspace) and sometimes you just have to add the link on your own
[04:56] <LjL> aeon17x: system settings / panel / menus
[04:56] <aeon17x> alright, gotta try that
[04:56] <aeon17x> by the way Xorg is doing that 90% proceso power thing again, gotta terminate it
[04:56] <aeon17x> brb
[04:57] <LjL> hmm, i've heard about that happening once...
[04:57] <LjL> it was on a breezy install though
[04:59] <aeon17x> back
[04:59] <aeon17x> it seems it comes from using composite in kubuntu
[04:59] <aeon17x> thanks, I got the recent apps in there now
[04:59] <joe___> Can anybody tell me if internet connection is required to install Kubuntu?
[05:00] <spectercorp> so...no one has had any luck getting evolution to connect to an exchange server on kubuntu?
[05:00] <spectercorp> joe: its not required, but it helps
[05:02] <rohan> has someone prepared a kubuntu cd with kde 3.5.3 and all the latest updates ?
[05:02] <rohan> it would be a great help ! :)
[05:02] <aeon17x> whee, finally figured out how to adjust translucency with the mouse wheel again
[05:02] <aeon17x> rohan: it should arrive in the repos in due time, just wait 
[05:03] <rohan> aeon17x: i dont think the official dapper repos will get kde 3.5.3
[05:03] <Hobbsee> rohan: they wont, you're correct
[05:03] <Hobbsee> rohan: i believe they're talking about a cd with all the updates though
[05:03] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a independent EQ that works directly with the audio driver?
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> rohan: The problem with doing something like that is there is only 4mb free on it
[05:03] <joe___> Thanks, spectercorp.
[05:03] <rohan> Hobbsee: yes, i did read that .. incremental cd images or something like that, right ?
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: If you use jackd you can do loads of funky stuff like that
[05:04] <rohan> h3sp4wn: how does that make any difference ?
[05:04] <Hobbsee> rohan: that's the idea, yeah
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> rohan: Newer programs are generally bigger you would have to remove some stuff
[05:04] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> h3sp4wn: jackd , is that a music player?
[05:05] <rohan> h3sp4wn: what is the logic behind "Newer programs are generally bigger" ?
[05:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> rohan: yes, more features , more code , more content
[05:05] <rohan> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: not necessarily
[05:06] <rohan> thats apart from the point, anyway
[05:06] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> rohan: usually thats the way it is
[05:06] <rohan> fact is, no such cd, with kde 3.5.3 and all the updates are available, right ?
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> You could make one
[05:07] <rohan> i dont know how to
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> The filesystem is in casper/squashfs or something like that
[05:08] <thompa> i have a program i downloaded on desktop, installed, cant get rid of the folder, permissions
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> take it appart with unsquashfs
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> chroot into the directory apply the updates
[05:08] <rohan> errr
[05:09] <rohan> i dont want the desktop cd
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> put it back together
[05:09] <rohan> the alternate cd is fine
[05:09] <rohan> it'd be easier also, to make an updates cd for alternate
[05:09] <thompa> anbody why i cant delete file even as sudo?
[05:09] <rohan> thompa: what error do you get ?
[05:11] <thompa> in the realplayer directory, if i type sudo rm "filename" get:
[05:11] <thompa> it works  now
[05:11] <thompa> sorry, but how do i remove the whole folder
[05:12] <rohan> thompa: using the gui, or rm -r foldername/
[05:12] <thompa> i have to go into each real player directory and delete files
[05:12] <thompa> that worked thanks
[05:13] <thompa> i dont understand why it was locked file
[05:13] <thompa> i downloaded it as user, but installed it with sudo
[05:14] <thompa> i got the little fox head now in ubuntu side for some reason
[05:16] <thompa> some of the edubuntu graphics crossed over somehow
[05:17] <thompa> i should have moved realplayer folder to home directory
[05:18] <thompa> firefox is wrong that way, why put stuff all over the desktop
[05:19] <thompa> i just change the settings so its ok
[05:25] <DarkStone> hey
[05:25] <DarkStone> im trying to extract a 7zip file with ark
[05:25] <DarkStone> but when i extract any file
[05:25] <DarkStone> i get this error
[05:25] <Daskreech2> Why won't my hard drive boot on another computer?
[05:25] <DarkStone> The file or folder /tmp/kde-sohaib/arkNEddTJ/FILENAMEHERE.FILE does not exist.
[05:25] <Daskreech2> Well some other computers
[05:25] <DarkStone> i get that error
[05:25] <DarkStone> any ideas people?
[05:26] <dr_willis> Daskreech2,  clarify 'wont boot' - No grub? grub works but system dont boot? or Other?
[05:26] <Daskreech2> Grub Boots, Loading Root file system either doen't work or takes longer than a few hours
[05:27] <Daskreech2> I only waited an hour
[05:27] <dr_willis> Grub scans the drives and reorders them - so your hda/b/c/d may not be correct  - depending on what other drives are on the syste,
[05:27] <dr_willis> well grub uses  hd(0) and so forth.. but the idea is the same
[05:27] <deuce868> Is it setup as the same drive device on the new machine? i.e. on IDE 1, master connection
[05:28] <dr_willis> Grub is one of thost things - it pays to learn the ins and outs of. :) its amazing what all it can do
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> You can use it over a serial console as well with a bit of messing around
[05:29] <dr_willis> yea - i never did that yet.
[05:29] <DarkStone> im trying to extract a 7zip file with ark
[05:30] <DarkStone> i get this error
[05:30] <DarkStone> The file or folder /tmp/kde-sohaib/arkNEddTJ/FILENAMEHERE.FILE does not exist.
[05:30] <Daskreech2> so ,,,, if I normally boot from master ATA and First IDE then I move to a machine where the Active drive is the Third ATA chan and the master drive I need to mess with grub?
[05:30] <DarkStone> i can open the archive
[05:30] <DarkStone> i dont know what the prob is
[05:30] <dr_willis> DarkStone,  id just use the command line tools and be done with it.
[05:30] <dr_willis> sounds like ark may be confused.
[05:30] <DarkStone> ok
[05:31] <Daskreech2> DarkStone: Does that file exist?
[05:31] <DarkStone> well
[05:31] <DarkStone> no
[05:31] <DarkStone> i checked
[05:31] <DarkStone> im trying to extract it out the archive
[05:31] <DarkStone> i installed p7zip
[05:31] <Daskreech2> right
[05:31] <h3sp4wn> Daskreech2: Is there another drive on the first channel ?
[05:31] <Daskreech2> h3sp4wn: no
[05:32] <DarkStone> how do i use command like tools for p7zip?
[05:32] <Daskreech2> So I would ned to boot hd2,0 ?
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> Daskreech2: Just press e edit the bootline change the root= to hdc - it will still be hd0
[05:32] <Daskreech2> Ah ok :)
[05:32] <Daskreech2>  Cool
[05:32] <Daskreech2>  Thanks
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> Unless there is other drives
[05:35] <_bon> is there a way to check your emails with kopete
[05:36] <DarkStone> how do i use command like tools for p7zip?
[05:36] <DarkStone> line*
[05:36] <Tonio_> _bon: nope it isn't designed for this
[05:36] <Tonio_> DarkStone: rtfm ?
[05:36] <Tonio_> ;)
[05:36] <_bon> whats it designed for
[05:37] <Tonio_> _bon: it is a instant messenger
[05:37] <Tonio_> not an email client
[05:37] <spectercorp> is you're wanting to check mail, look into Kmail, Evolution, or thunderbird
[05:37] <_bon> but i just want a button i can click to check them onile
[05:38] <Tonio_> DarkStone: seriously, the only way to get the informations you're looking for is man p7zip I assume
[05:38] <DarkStone> ok
[05:38] <andred> _bon: right-click the account icon
[05:39] <spectercorp> booya! I finally got evolution working with exchange!
[05:39] <spectercorp> fyi: you have to make use in install the evolution-plugins, evolution-webcal and libevolution-cil packages for it to work in kubuntu (in case anyone ever asks)
[05:40] <Tonio_> spectercorp: also enable the owa extension to exchange :)
[05:40] <Tonio_> otherwise nothing will work :)
[05:40] <spectercorp> already have that. it would work in ubuntu, but it would never give me all the set up fields in kubuntu
[05:41] <spectercorp> I had to install the other packages before it would let me set it up
[05:41] <spectercorp> evolution and evolution-exchange weren't enough
[05:41] <_bon> andred i dont have an account icon
[05:41] <swoopix> hi
[05:45] <charwood> Is it just me or does us.archive.ubuntu.com not have any packages listed today?
[05:46] <charwood> I should I be able to see the folders that I apt get when viewing their location in konqueror, right?  Isn't it just http?
[05:46] <dr_willis>  folders that I apt get  ?
[05:46] <charwood> The locations in my sources.list file
[05:47] <dr_willis> ahh.. you mean access the ftp servers with a browser.
[05:47] <charwood> Yes, although in my case they are http.
[05:47] <charwood> And they should be world visible?
[05:47] <dr_willis> no clue. ive never tried to browse them myself. :P
[05:47] <charwood> Because take a looksy at us.archive.ubuntu.com (-8
[05:47] <Emess> :o
[05:48] <Emess> the dapper cd is so preeeeeetty!
[05:48] <dr_willis> charwood,  that site works for me.
[05:49] <charwood> And there are folders in it with thousands of happy packages?
[05:49] <dr_willis> charwood,  and if ya http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/   or ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/  it looks different
[05:49] <dr_willis> ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/pub/ubuntu/pool
[05:49] <charwood> Huh.  I can ftp it and everything shows up.
[05:49] <dr_willis> seems to be all the repos.
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> I can't get http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[05:50] <dr_willis> http: worked for me as well.
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> http://archive.ubuntu.com works fine
[05:50] <dr_willis> but the http was just a bunch of links to the ftp sites
[05:50] <charwood> The reason that I'm asking is that when I run apt-get update, it can't find any packages at the locations that it thinks that it should.
[05:50] <dr_willis> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/  works for me as well
[05:51] <dr_willis> i think ya may want to remove the 'us' part.
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> Does it point to argonne national laboratory ?
[05:51] <spectercorp> reset your sources.list file to the one here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:51] <charwood> When I try and get the Packages.gz I can download them.  Maybe it's back up.
[05:51] <charwood> Confirmed, apt-get update works again now.
[05:52] <charwood> Ok, must have just been a server glitch.  Sorry to bother you all.
[05:53] <spectercorp> ok, time to pat myself on the back: having been a window user all my life, I am now 100% MS free and loving it. This evolution problem was my last big hurdle.
[05:53] <charwood> spectercorp: Congrats!
[05:53] <spectercorp> not to mention spending all day yesterday trying to get my dual monitor set up correctly. lol
[05:55] <spectercorp> now if I can just get worl of warcraft working.....
[05:56] <waylandbill> spectercorp: hip hip huzzah!
[05:56] <spectercorp> thanks!
[05:57] <eXCeSS_> is there a way to make firefox maxamize like a mac does in kde
[05:58] <eXCeSS_> like it fits to the page, not the size of my screen
[05:58] <spectercorp> kde-apps.org might have a plug-in. Also might try looking at the firefox homepage for an add-in
[05:59] <spectercorp> I'd start with teh firefox page
[06:14] <ctothej> anyone know of a file search tool that can search through both chm and pdf files?
[06:18] <waylandbill> ctothej: beagle
[06:19] <waylandbill> ctothej: http://beagle-project.org/Supported_Filetypes shows both chm and pdf
[06:26] <BlankB> Can someone point me to a place that tells how to get OpenOfficeOrg2 to work with kprinter?
[06:29] <kane__> BlankB: it quite possibly doesnt
[06:29] <kane__> BlankB: you would have to hack (possibly heavily) to get it to do that
[06:30] <BlankB> kane__: that is about what I came up with after a while of googling.
[06:30] <kane__> BlankB: you came up with what ?
[06:31] <BlankB> kane__: that it would be impossible without tons of meddling.
[06:31] <kane__> BlankB: if you have URLs describing what exact work has to be done, I would like it
[06:31] <kane__> BlankB: nm
[06:32] <BlankB> kane__: I do not have anything that tells how to do it.
[06:34] <kane__> BlankB: well, if it is any consolation ... OOo and Kprinter both use CUPS
[06:39] <Hedp|Zzzz> hello, is there a way for me to install kubuntu on my old laptop wich i cant boot directly from cd?
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> Can the laptop do netboot ?
[06:40] <Hedphelym> no, just floppy\Hd
[06:40] <BlankB> Hedphelym: There is a boot floppy somewhere on the net that will boot from floppy first then cause the machine to boot from cd. I have to use it to boot my older machine.
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> Does it have a nwtwork card at all ?
[06:41] <Hedphelym> yes it has h3
[06:41] <BlankB> Hedphelym: As soon as I find it I will post a url for you.
[06:41] <Hedphelym> thank you blankB , that sounds exactly what i need
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> But there is no cd drive is there on it ?
[06:41] <Hedphelym> i have a usb cdrom
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> You can boot the netboot installation from using loadlin from dos
[06:42] <BlankB> Hedphelym: that boot floppy I was talking about will only chain to an ide cdrom.
[06:42] <Hedphelym> i've been looking at loadlin, but i have no idea how to set it up, i have another distribution that uses loadlin, and has i preinstalled\setup on the cd, that works. but i dont know how to use that with kubuntu
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> You could boot knoppix from dos and install using debootstrap
[06:45] <reon> Anyone here tried mepis6 ?
[06:45] <BlankB> Hedphelym: Here is a url to the bootable cd loader that I have used in the past. But I probably will not work for what you are doing: http://www.wolfgang-brinkmann.de/bcdw/index_e.htm
[06:46] <pipitas> BlankB: Doesnt it work to do it analogous to what  http://printing.kde.org/faq/kdeprint.php#HowdoIuseKDEPrintinStarOffice  describes?  AFAIK, ooo2 still has the "spadmin" program....
[06:47] <Hedphelym> can i install kubuntu from inside another distribution?
[06:48] <BlankB> pipitas: I was not able to get it working using spadmin...it would only allow me to make faxes and pdf printers.
[06:50] <BlankB> pipitas: plus spadmin will not run if I do: sudo /usr/lib/openoffice/program/spadmin it fails with a Kcrash.
[06:51] <sebastian> Hi I did loads of messing around before with Kubuntu and upgraded from Breezy to Dapper.  anyway my Kubuntu is really scrwed.  ,because of the messing around
[06:51] <sebastian> and well I carn't exactly just use it
[06:52] <pipitas> I've not tried it with OOO2 so far (don't use it any more). Will see if I can install it at weekend and have a look. No promise, though.
[06:52] <sebastian> is there any easy way to get it back to the default set up?
[06:54] <sebastian> so edubuntu is easy for a school to set up on a network?
[06:54] <BlankB> Hedphelym: Are you goint to dual boot the laptop?
[06:55] <Hedphelym> no,i dont need dualboot, i just want to get kubuntu installed.
[06:55] <angasule> sebastian: I guess it depends on what is screwed?
[06:56] <sebastian> well loads of stuff
[06:56] <sebastian> from when I tryed to customize
[06:56] <sebastian> I Just want it back to the default settings
[06:56] <sebastian> as if I hadn't even customized it
[06:57] <BlankB> Hedphelym: How about pulling the drive out...slap it into a exernal usb case and do a kubuntu install to it from a desktop machine.?
[06:57] <Hedphelym> i dont have the possibility to do that :)
[06:59] <angasule> sebastian: lemme look for a way to do that, sounds useful (I have screwed my machine too, I was planning on making a fresh install with dapper )
[06:59] <sebastian> I guess it's just delete my made settings for it
[06:59] <sebastian> or something like that
[07:02] <angasule> sebastian: umh, I'm not finding anything, deleting the files could be risky
[07:02] <sebastian> maybe I can just re install
[07:02] <sebastian> the actaul KDE GUI?
[07:02] <sebastian> complete re install
[07:02] <sebastian> without needing to remove K3B and what not programs
[07:03] <angasule> I'm not sure if uninstalling them removes the config files
[07:03] <sebastian> exactly bingo got to delete the config files I guess
[07:03] <sebastian> or something like that
[07:03] <sebastian> or change them back to the default ones
[07:03] <sebastian> I got KDE on lap top.  I guess I could copy those config files into the one on PC
[07:03] <sebastian> and replace
[07:03] <sebastian> and then it should work?
[07:05] <angasule> sebastian: no idea, sorry, I don't want to give advice if I'm not sure, I usually have a partition for my files and another for the system, so reinstalling isn't much of an issue if I screw my system (which I often do :D )
[07:06] <sebastian> I might do a clean install on this PC
[07:06] <sebastian> since so much crap here
[07:06] <sebastian> so on
[07:07] <sebastian> you got another partion that is ext3?
[07:07] <sebastian> for yoru files or?
[07:08] <angasule>  /home is another partition, and I also have two extra partitions because I used to have 'another OS' installed
[07:09] <sebastian> well I used to have XP
[07:09] <sebastian> and well my plan was to make a ext3 half of irst hard disk and the other half fat32
[07:09] <sebastian> and yes Linux gets installed on second
[07:09] <sebastian> I got home inside my Linux partion at the moment
[07:10] <sebastian> on setup I can make home it's own partion
[07:10] <sebastian> a new home?
[07:10] <[BU] Brizz> !commands
[07:10] <sebastian> and make that be on it's own partion?
[07:10] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[07:10] <[BU] Brizz> !usage
[07:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:11] <[BU] Brizz> !ntfs
[07:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:13] <bobstro> sebastian:  is it only YOUR user settings that are horked? if you create another user, are their defaults what you want?
[07:13] <sebastian> I didn't think of doing that
[07:13] <sebastian> ,but probably they will be
[07:13] <sebastian> the default yes and how I want it
[07:14] <bobstro> sebastian:  well, if you just want to re-set your kde settings, i usually do that by simply renaming (not deleting yet) my ~/.kde folder (from outside kde)
[07:14] <[BU] Brizz> anyone around that knows how to upgrade to amarok 1.4? I can't remember
[07:14] <[BU] Brizz> !amarok
[07:14] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4, and packages are available for Ubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[07:14] <Hedphelym> anyone know the dos command to copy a cd over to hdd? when i type : Copy e:\*.* c:\*.*  it just copys the files in root of the cd, not the contents of the folder etc
[07:14] <bobstro> sebastian:  then if it's ok, you can eventually delete the old one. otherwise, rename it back.
[07:14] <[BU] Brizz> hmm maybe nm :)
[07:14] <Hedphelym> (in dos)
[07:14] <bobstro> HedgeMage:  you want xcopy
[07:14] <sebastian> oh re name that folder and it should make a new one?
[07:14] <bobstro> sebastian:  yeah
[07:15] <HedgeMage> bobstro: whowhat?
[07:15] <sebastian> ok thanks i'll try that, but I am about to go
[07:15] <bobstro> i've had a debian system running for YEARS, and though the basics are fine, i've often screwed up kde & gnome settings. so i do that a lot.
[07:15] <sebastian> so won't try now
[07:15] <bobstro> sebastian:  no, you can't go. sorry.
[07:15] <HedgeMage> oh, wrong highlight?
[07:15] <bobstro> HedgeMage:  DOS XCOPY will copy folders.
[07:15] <sebastian> heh I can go whenever I want
[07:16] <HedgeMage> bobstro: I think you're talking to Hedphelym
[07:16] <bobstro> sebastian:  you obviously didn't read the shrink-wrap license.
[07:16] <sebastian> ????????
[07:16] <sebastian> what?
[07:16] <Hedphelym> well, it says command unknown when i try that. but it might be the bootdisk i'm usng then
[07:16] <bobstro> HedgeMage:  oh, sorry. (in) completion.
[07:16] <HedgeMage> np
[07:16] <bobstro> sebastian:  joking. your soul belongs to (k)ubuntu now.
[07:17] <bobstro> sebastian:  you didn't think it was *really* free, did you?
[07:17] <[BU] Brizz> !mp3
[07:17] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:19] <VonGeist> weird question: does anyone know of any way to get that Matrix screensaver from ubuntu to work on kubuntu? (I'm assuming it won't but I can dream, can't I?)
[07:20] <[BU] Brizz> !flash
[07:20] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:21] <paines> hi
[07:22] <sebastian> knock
[07:22] <sebastian> knock
[07:22] <paines> when I do a right click on a desktop icon, kopete and the rest of the kwin hang until I kill kopete. anyone experiecing this too ?
[07:23] <VonGeist> I wound up using gaim instead of kopete
[07:23] <elijahblue> means?
[07:24] <eosyn> I wonder why any identd server I use fails to read the proc list correctly and returns no-user no matter what
[07:25] <elijahblue> is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD?
[07:25] <[BU] Brizz> someone needs to add sudo ./MAKEDEV audio to the fixes for flash sound on that page...
[07:25] <raphink> elijahblue: yes there is a way
[07:26] <raphink> elijahblue: just choose manual partioning, set yourself a reiserfs partition and choose to use it ;)
[07:26] <raphink> on whatever mount point you want
[07:27] <[BU] Brizz> !flash
[07:27] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:28] <DaSkreech> That's great!!!
[07:28] <_bon> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work this is my xorg log - http://pastebin.ca/69207 i have a feeling it something to do with kernil headers and fonts and the nvidia 8617 driver i have tryed to reinstall the nvidia drivers but it says there is already one installed and i dont know how to uninstall it so i can reinstall it
[07:29] <VonGeist> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[07:29] <haakonn> hi! i wanted to know how i can hibernate my laptop from kde. in gnome, i press "quit" or whatever, and then i can pick between logout, restart, ..., and hibernate. in kde, there is no hibernate. i'm running with kdm and everything. ideas?
[07:29] <[BU] Brizz> VonGeist: NO.
[07:30] <VonGeist> sorry, brizz, I was in the middle of typing "that was just a guess". lol
[07:30] <[BU] Brizz> VonGeist: hahaha :)
[07:31] <VonGeist> still in the M$ mentality of "remove then install" rather than "re-install"
[07:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> install without removing?
[07:32] <VonGeist> well, as I've found in linux, when you re-install a piece of software, in generally doesn't cause problems. With most windows programs, re-installing just keeps the same problems in place.
[07:33] <DaSkreech> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Someone was in here the other day using the system while installing it and erasing windows :)
[07:33] <_bon> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common did nothing
[07:34] <h3sp4wn> Reinstalling usually doesn't fix any problems (any config files are not overwritten with a reinstall)
[07:34] <_bon> i did install by apt-get if you talking to me
[07:34] <_bon> didnt
[07:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> which command removes all the config files together with the app?
[07:35] <VonGeist> sorry, I'm still learning myself so take any suggestions I give with a grain of salt.
[07:36] <_bon> sudo apt-get --purge remove name
[07:37] <VonGeist> bon: you might try using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to rebuild your xorg file. wait for confirmation from someone else before trying that route though.
[07:38] <elijahblue> plzzzz is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz?
[07:38] <[BU] Brizz> elijahblue: probably edit the partition table yourself
[07:38] <[BU] Brizz> !reiserfs
[07:38] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[07:39] <elijahblue> !ext3
[07:39] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:39] <elijahblue> ubotu: thats why i cant use ext3...my bro can read/write to i t from windows!
[07:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about thats why i cant use ext3...my bro can read/write to i t from windows!
[07:40] <elijahblue> lol...is ubotu a machine???
[07:40] <Hawkwind> He's a bot
[07:41] <gnomefreak> hes a bot with feelings
[07:41] <VonGeist> and he makes a mean taco
[07:41] <slow-motion> bye
[07:42] <[BU] Brizz> anyways, reiserfs is readable from windows as well
[07:42] <[BU] Brizz> so it's not really a better solution than ext3 unoless you want it for speed
[07:43] <_bon> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work this is my xorg log - http://pastebin.ca/69207 i have a feeling it something to do with kernil headers and fonts and the nvidia 8617 driver i have tryed to reinstall the nvidia drivers but it says there is already one installed and i dont know how to uninstall it so i can reinstall it
[07:43] <elijahblue> [BU] Brizz: but u cant write to reiserrfs i think from windows..so thats safe
[07:43] <_bon> any ideas atall
[07:44] <elijahblue> [Evil] [Ernie] : i want it for privacy:)
[07:44] <VonGeist> if you tighten down the security on the system, a windows computer won't be able to write to it regardless of your file system
[07:44] <jorik> VonGeist, please explain
[07:46] <VonGeist> I'm just making a guess, but I think if blue were to go through a couple of security faqs as opposed to changing the file system on his computer, it would be easier and a lot less painful.
[07:46] <VonGeist> unless he has a reason to want to change beyond keeping his brother out
[07:47] <[BU] Brizz> VonGeist: yes
[07:47] <[BU] Brizz> !acroread
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about acroread
[07:47] <[BU] Brizz> !acrobat
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about acrobat
[07:47] <VonGeist> !life
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[07:47] <elijahblue> !love
[07:47] <bobstro> elijahblue:  would hiding the partitions in grub suffice, or is he technical?
[07:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about love
[07:48] <VonGeist> booya
[07:48] <elijahblue> bobstro: naaaa, he's not technical
[07:48] <bobstro> elijahblue:  in other words, are you just trying to keep him from inadvertently messing up your stuff, or are you trying to hide dirty pictures?
[07:49] <VonGeist> I know this guide is for ubuntu, but most of the stuff works on kubuntu also. There's a good section on some basic security stuff: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#What_are_the_basic_things_I_need_to_know_about_securing_my_Ubuntu
[07:49] <Leafw> can anyone tell me how come the /proc folder can be 514 Mb fat?
[07:49] <bobstro> elijahblue:  i would think you could just configure the boot option in grub to hide your linux partitions if you're trying to prevent accidents. otherwise, perhaps an encrypted filesystem is in order?
[07:49] <Spec> du -h /proc/kcore
[07:49] <MarcC> I'm trying to change my screen resolution but clicking "Apply" or "OK" on the resolution dialog doesn't switch screen modes. Any ideas?
[07:49] <bobstro> elijahblue:  i'd hide the partition in any case, in case he decides to format it.
[07:49] <Leafw> Spec : 513 Mb of those 514
[07:50] <Leafw> Spec : what is this kcore ?
[07:50] <Spec> Leafw: that's normal, it's normally about as big as your memory
[07:50] <Spec> Leafw: your proc fs is in memory, not on your disk
[07:50] <Leafw> Spec : my RAM is 512 Mb, yes
[07:50] <Spec> that's normal :)
[07:50] <elijahblue> bobstro: hehe..dirty pics..how u knew that??
[07:51] <bobstro> elijahblue:  your brother was in here before asking how to get access to your porn cache. :)
[07:51] <Leafw> Spec: after using kubuntu for a year, it has grown to 3Gb, so I wonder what is up.  /usr is 2.4Gb
[07:51] <VonGeist> ha!
[07:51] <elijahblue> bobstro: i wouldnt take so much encrypting trouble...he aint that smart...uses only windows..thats why im afraid he may install a program in windows which reads/writes ext3
[07:51] <elijahblue> bobstro: plz dont talk of horror stories;)
[07:51] <bobstro> elijahblue:  yeah, hiding the partition should fix that.
[07:52] <bobstro> elijahblue:  unless of course he boots a cd and zaps it.
[07:52] <VonGeist> and from the sound of things, setting the folder to hidden will keep him out of your stash as well
[07:52] <bobstro> VonGeist:  if he's reading from windows?
[07:52] <elijahblue> bobstro: he hates linux..thats a boon for me:)
[07:53] <apes> elo
[07:53] <bobstro> VonGeist:  i'd still sweat him blasting the partition.
[07:53] <VonGeist> I agree, but in the grand scheme of things, there's not much he can do about that, but I could be wrong
[07:53] <MarcC> is there another way to specify screen resolution, besides the Screen Configuration Editor?
[07:54] <sticc> hi. why there are no options in kcontrol --> System settings --> Regional settings and accesability? what package i have missed?
[07:54] <VonGeist> wait, is his brother dual booting windows?
[07:54] <bobstro> elijahblue:  it's a shared computer? you can't just require a password to boot (bios or grub)?
[07:54] <bobstro> VonGeist:  that's what i understood. is that right elijahblue?
[07:55] <elijahblue> bobstroyup its a family pc:(
[07:55] <thyagarajan> hi guys
[07:55] <VonGeist> oops, now this all makes sense to me!
[07:55] <bobstro> elijahblue:  dual boot then?
[07:55] <elijahblue> tats what im doing!!
[07:55] <bobstro> elijahblue: yeah, i meant it as a question. confirmed. :)
[07:55] <elijahblue> im afraid he may access my files from WINDOWS!
[07:55] <elijahblue> bobstro: :)
[07:55] <bobstro> elijahblue:  i think hiding partition with grub is an easy fix.
[07:55] <VonGeist> partition magic used to be able to do some serious partition hiding. I'm sure grub can do it to, I just have no idea how.
[07:56] <bobstro> VonGeist:  it's got a LOT of options just for that. very flexible, though i've only started using capabilities.
[07:56] <bobstro> hmmm... is there a GUI front-end for configuring grub?
[07:56] <thyagarajan> konqueror:gg:ntfsfreespace
[07:57] <elijahblue> bobstro: which partition? i cant hide my linux entry..?
[07:57] <bobstro> elijahblue:  yes, hide it WHEN YOU BOOT WINDOWS.
[07:57] <bobstro> elijahblue:  you can even hide windows partitions from windows -- thus have two winxp/2000 on same disk, etc.
[07:58] <stamen> hi
[07:58] <stamen> I have installed ogle DVD player true Adept
[07:58] <thyagarajan> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/36845-give-more-space-linux.html
[07:58] <stamen> but I can't start it now
[07:58] <stamen> what to do
[07:58] <stamen> !ogle
[07:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about ogle
[07:58] <elijahblue> stamen: try mplayer or xine:)
[07:59] <stamen> but mplayer cant support subtitles for DVD playback
[07:59] <stamen> xine too
[07:59] <elijahblue> bobstro: i think we are both misunderstanding each other a bit:)
[08:00] <bobstro> elijahblue:  well, what i am saying is that if your system is dual boot (it is, right?) and you use grub to dual-boot (you do, right?) you can configure grub to hide your linux partition when you boot windows, and un-hide it when you boot linux.
[08:00] <bobstro> elijahblue:  does that sound right? hide the linux partition from windows to keep your brother offi it?
[08:01] <elijahblue> bobstro: i got it...but even if my bro boots up my ubuntu system...he wont be able to get in bcoz he doesnt know the password...
[08:01] <RadiantFire> elijahblue: there are ways of password protecting grub
[08:02] <RadiantFire> elijahblue: so you cannot make any changes
[08:02] <RadiantFire> without the password
[08:02] <stamen> which player is the best for DVD playing
[08:02] <bobstro> elijahblue:  yeah, at that point, it's linux security protecting your.
[08:02] <HedgeMage> stamen: it depends on what features are most important to you
[08:02] <VonGeist> I was using totem on normal ubuntu.
[08:02] <stamen> with subtle support
[08:02] <Spec> elijahblue: you're worried about your brother getting to your files?
[08:02] <Spec> elijahblue: i'm pretty sure there's encrypted filesystems .... :)
[08:03] <stamen> I want to support subtitles and DVD menus
[08:03] <stamen> HedgeMage: I want to support subtitles and DVD menus
[08:03] <VonGeist> elijah: as far as I know you can keep him from even booting linux without a grub password.
[08:03] <HedgeMage> stamen: I think both xine and totem do that (I know xine does, as that's what I use)
[08:03] <elijahblue> Spec: encrypted fs are too complex stuff for me
[08:03] <HedgeMage> stamen: I chose xine largely because it handles both subs and CC very well.
[08:03] <stamen> HedgeMage: what package of xine to install
[08:03] <elijahblue> RadiantFire: i see
[08:03] <HedgeMage> stamen: xine-ui
[08:03] <stamen> HedgeMage: ok
[08:04] <Spec> elijahblue: just encrypt the individual files then with gpg?
[08:04] <stamen> I will try
[08:04] <stamen> 10x
[08:04] <HedgeMage> np
[08:04] <elijahblue> so theres no way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD?
[08:05] <elijahblue> Spec: yaaaaaa...thats a better idea..........why didnt i think of it :(
[08:06] <elijahblue> kgpg will do the trick
[08:06] <bobstro> elijahblue:  i thought you were worried about deletion?
[08:08] <oomph_work> is there a package for KDE that sets up networking logging into a windows domain similiar to how Xandros has it?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> When I'm doing an update from the CD where do the temporary deb packages get stored?
[08:13] <elijahblue> bobstro: well my bro wont delete my files i guess...he's not so mean..........i simply dont want him to access my po** collection:)
[08:13] <DaSkreech> You have a pork collectin?
[08:13] <bobstro> elijahblue:  so you're going to encrypt every file? he may also find the temp files etc.
[08:13] <Spec> I have a pork collection too!
[08:13] <DaSkreech> I thought I was the only person t!hat did that
[08:14] <Spec> elijahblue: just tar it up and gpg it
[08:14] <bobstro> i think it's a pong collection.
[08:14] <VonGeist> I tried but I couldn't keep from eating it
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Sweet we should make a chan on freenode :)
[08:14] <bobstro> you know, action screen shots of good games.
[08:14] <Spec> VonGeist: patience comes with time
[08:14] <VonGeist> spec:not when bacon is involved
[08:14] <elijahblue> bobstro: :( guess i'll have to get alternate cd from someone:(
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Thats a load of ham!
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Or was it baloney :(
[08:15] <bobstro> quit 'hogging' the channnel with all this pork talk
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Yeah i makes the channel like a pig in a poke for people who wan suport
[08:16] <HedgeMage> lol
[08:16] <DaSkreech> want
[08:16] <bobstro> supork?
[08:17] <nexus> ya des fr ?
[08:17] <r3nd3r0> how do i get online ? i have a adsl connectoin
[08:18] <r3nd3r0> isp has dhcp but requires user and pass for login
[08:18] <r3nd3r0> no im on windows now
[08:18] <[BU] Brizz> r3nd3r0: your DSL modem should handle all of that
[08:18] <r3nd3r0> well it didnt
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Oh in that case you've done two things gotten on line and in danger :)
[08:19] <VonGeist> a dsl router would fix that problem, but I'm assuming that's not the answer you were looking for
[08:21] <ralph1> Hi Can anyone tell where I can get the latest kmymoney2 for Dapper. I could only find version 0.8.2 and need 0.8.4
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> What is in 0.8.4 that you need ?
[08:22] <BazziR> ralph1: kde-apps.org but handle with care(tm)
[08:22] <bobstro> i've got 3 pcs with identical hardware. i'm mounting $HOME via nfs/nis, so user data is all on server. i want the 3 pcs to maintain identical software configurations. other than copying a disk image, and dpk --get/set-selections, any ideas?
[08:22] <bobstro> i'm thinking unison, rsync perhaps?
[08:22] <bobstro> but for running systems.
[08:22] <VonGeist> get some ghosting software
[08:23] <BazziR> bobstro: thin clients + remote X
[08:23] <bobstro> VonGeist:  i'm doing that with tar & ssh (more or less) and it works fine, but i'd like it to be an automatic process. e.g. leave systems on and they sync overnight, with one designated "master".
[08:23] <ralph1> BazziR was hopeing for a backport
[08:23] <BazziR> :-/
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> ralph1: You could try backporting it yourself
[08:24] <bobstro> BazziR:  thought of that, but the "server" box isn't all that powerful (other 3 workstations are all the same) and i want users to be able to burn discs, watch dvds etc.
[08:25] <bobstro> BazziR:  i think i'm looking for a "sync active systems automatically" solution.
[08:25] <BazziR> hmmm
[08:26] <ralph1> h3sp4wn: have never done that before and had only poor results compiling stuff.
[08:26] <BazziR> create a repository on the server, create a metapackage for all your apps, and put updates there, make a script on the clients that dist-upgrades all X hours if available
[08:26] <BazziR> well, pretty much overkill but for the fun of it ;-)
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> ralph1: apt-get build-dep kmymoney2
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> ralph1: Are you running kde 3.5.3 ?
[08:28] <katakombi> please, is there any berlios related channel?
[08:28] <ralph1> h3sp4wn: yes
[08:28] <DrBair> whats a good commandline tool for managing runlevels?
[08:29] <kyaneos> sysv-rc-conf i think
[08:29] <kyaneos> that is for managing services at each runlevel
[08:29] <bobstro> BazziR:  ah, ok. i'm using apt-cacher now (on server). i could set cron job do "dpkg --get-selections > file" from master, and "dpkg --set-selections < file; apt-get dselect-upgrade" on others.
[08:30] <BazziR> :o
[08:30] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I read that as mymonkey
[08:31] <VonGeist> anyone had any problems upgrading to KDE 3.5.3?
[08:32] <gnomefreak> no
[08:32] <VonGeist> the reason I worry is because it took me almost a whole day to get my dual screens working and the last thing I want to do is go through that again
[08:33] <ralph1> VonGeist: I had no problems but do not have dual screens. It just worked for me
[08:33] <VonGeist> you didn't have to re-do anything on your xorg.conf?
[08:33] <ralph1> VonGeist: no
[08:33] <VonGeist> oh good. I might give it a shot then
[08:35] <gnomefreak> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkmymoney2%2Fkmymoney2_0.8.4-2_i386.deb&md5sum=321f025287900a028a84af2dc722e0b7&arch=i386&type=main  <<< .deb for what he was looking for
[08:36] <DrBair> man, wireless sucks in Dapper
[08:36] <erov> alright .. ive followed the instructions on ATI drivers.. just a big mess.. it seems to be fine with the X display but GL is STILL mesa.. ive tried everything..  :((
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> It would be best to rebuild it against dapper not use the debian sid deb
[08:37] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: you see how far he got with that
[08:38] <VonGeist> erov: you pretty much have to manually edit the xorg.conf file to fix that as far as I could find.
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> That deb depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0)
[08:39] <erov> ive tried that.. several times.. any specifics?? i call myself editing what is called for ati->fglrx etc.. why is gl still software??
[08:39] <VonGeist> I messed with my ati for two days to try to get it to work. I wound up going out and buying an nvidia card
[08:39] <gnomefreak> VonGeist: you should beable to use riddells repo to upgrade smothly
[08:39] <imbrandon> VonGeist, good call on the nvidia ;)
[08:39] <erov> haha.. i hear you.. but i'm barefoot and poor ;)
[08:40] <erov> just want to play OLD games even.. they are slow as hell
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Installed: 1:4.1.1-2ubuntu3  <dapper
[08:40] <DaSkreech> brb
[08:41] <gnomefreak> if you go to packages.ubuntu.com you can grab the right one also there are other downloads for that package he wanted
[08:41] <gnomefreak> that was first one i came across
[08:41] <DrBair> is there a new knetworkmanager out there somewhere?
[08:41] <VonGeist> erov:you can always try using that dkpg thing it suggests in the xorg file. That at least gives you a nice clean xorg to work with. I would up doing that a few times before I just starting backing up the file before I played with it
[08:43] <ctothej> kubuntu wont autorecognize my external usb hard drives, how can i mount them?
[08:43] <VonGeist> gnomefreak: I'm going to wait a while before I try that. like I said, I just got this thing working in the first place
[08:43] <gnomefreak> VonGeist: i did it flawlessly but im only running single screen
[08:44] <VonGeist> I **need** my dual screens
[08:44] <erov> yeah ive done that a few times.. myself.. have over 10 backups in the directory now.. :| i think the x display is working fine but for some reason fglrxinfo always reports the soft gl..
[08:45] <gnomefreak> VonGeist: it shouldnt play with the xorg.config file at all
[08:45] <omeow> What shouldn't?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> omeow: upgrading kde
[08:46] <omeow> Hm, I just did that too, my displays still seem to work, but the package is broken or something.
[08:46] <omeow> http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/brokenpackage.png
[08:46] <gnomefreak> omeow: what package?
[08:46] <VonGeist> erov:you know, the easyubuntu script installed an ATI control panel that helped fix a couple problems I was having.
[08:46] <omeow> That.. and the display configuration module is broken yet again.
[08:47] <erov> ill try that
[08:47] <VonGeist> I think I'll give it a month or two before I install the new version.
[08:47] <omeow> Setting up dual displays?
[08:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> whats a ipconfig in linux?
[08:50] <crimsun> /sbin/ifconfig
[08:50] <gnomefreak> ifconfig
[08:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ifconfig doesnt display dns servers
[08:51] <crimsun> ``cat /etc/resolv.conf'' does
[08:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is that a file ?
[08:52] <crimsun> /etc/resolv.conf is. What I gave you is a command.
[08:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , thanks
[08:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> so i can manuallly set the dns servers in resolve.conf , right?
[08:53] <omeow> Yes.
[08:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> will it override my settings if i use dhcp?
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> That isn't the way to do it if you are using dhcp
[08:54] <shogouki> 'lo
[08:54] <crimsun> they will be overwritten if you use dhcp, yes.
[08:54] <shogouki> do you have a bug with amarok 1.4 with xine and dapper, i cant play a mp3 since my reinstall
[08:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> mmmk ,
[08:55] <crimsun> shogouki: did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[08:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> my pc uses the gateway as dns server , which it doesnt in windows
[08:56] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> and i dont want it to do that either
[08:57] <shogouki> crimsun: thx it works now :)
[08:57] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> nevermind, i think i got it
[08:59] <h3sp4wn> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: You need to use something like prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; in dhclient.conf
[09:04] <weedar> Is there a way to install cmake version 2.4.2 as a deb-package?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> HedgeMage: It's true!!
[09:06] <HedgeMage> lol
[09:07] <tsdgeos> hi
[09:07] <tsdgeos> any idea why depmod -av does not list the restricted modules?
[09:07] <elknof3> hi everybody, hey does someone have pcsx2 running??
[09:08] <proog> i specified "kate" as the default HTML opener in konqueror, but now when i browse the web with konqueror, it asks if i want to save the html file or open it with kate, instead of showing the html page... how do i get normal web brwosing back??
[09:09] <proog> *browsing
[09:09] <DrBair> dhclient constantly clobbers my /etc/resolv.conf that openvpn sets up on connection, any idea how to change this?
[09:09] <[BU] Brizz> rofl that's funny
[09:10] <[BU] Brizz> proog: iirc Konqueror isn't really a web browser per-se
[09:10] <[BU] Brizz> it turns over all requests to the programs that are associated with them
[09:10] <proog> why not?
[09:10] <BazziR> it is something like IE <=6 :P
[09:10] <[BU] Brizz> yah it's kind of like Windows Explorer
[09:10] <proog> you use firefox then?
[09:11] <[BU] Brizz> it just kind of interfaces with the OS and has the ability to display web pages
[09:11] <[BU] Brizz> yah firefox
[09:11] <tsdgeos> [BU] Brizz: konqueror is a web browser
[09:11] <proog> thats what i thought
[09:11] <[BU] Brizz> Konqueror can be used as a web browser
[09:11] <tsdgeos> no
[09:11] <tsdgeos> it is
[09:11] <elknof3> hi everybody, hey does someone have pcsx2 running??
[09:11] <wodger> still makes it a web browser
[09:11] <[BU] Brizz> proog's problem here is exactly what makes Konqueror not a web browser
[09:12] <proog> any idea on how on get the normal web browsing experience back?
[09:12] <tsdgeos> [BU] Brizz: .
[09:12] <[BU] Brizz> it is a file manager that has the ability to display web pages
[09:12] <tsdgeos> proog: not setting kate the first to open html pages?
[09:12] <tsdgeos> [BU] Brizz: fucking NO
[09:12] <[BU] Brizz> then explain the problem
[09:13] <tsdgeos> you really want the answer?
[09:13] <proog> yes please :)
[09:13] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:13] <tsdgeos> konqueror is nothing but a shell
[09:13] <tsdgeos> that is able to embed things
[09:13] <tsdgeos> there are 2 things that come by default with konqueror
[09:13] <tsdgeos> the file manager AND the browser
[09:14] <[BU] Brizz> 13:13 < tsdgeos> konqueror is nothing but a shell <-- that's exactly what I was getting at
[09:14] <proog> do you use it as a browser, tsdgeos?
[09:14] <tsdgeos> proog: of course
[09:14] <tsdgeos> what would i use if not?
[09:14] <tsdgeos> firefox
[09:14] <tsdgeos> bah
[09:14] <proog> never experienced this problem?
[09:15] <tsdgeos> proog: of course not, but should be easy to fix
[09:15] <tsdgeos> wait a mo
[09:15] <proog> ... how?
[09:15] <[BU] Brizz> the problem, just as I said before, is that Konqueror is not a web browser, it just has the ability to display web pages
[09:15] <eosyn_> ok so I've discovered that something is forbidding oidentd to read on ipv4 but nothing is listed in the sockets
[09:15] <eosyn_> oidentd works on ipv6 tho
[09:15] <[BU] Brizz> sure, you can set it back to open HTML files, that's a solution
[09:15] <tsdgeos> [BU] Brizz: and what is the fucking diference?
[09:16] <proog> tsdgeos: the easy fix...?
[09:16] <[BU] Brizz> the difference is that web browsing is not Konqueror's primary function, it is just one of it's functions
[09:16] <tsdgeos> [BU] Brizz: because it does not have a primary function
[09:16] <tsdgeos> that's aplus
[09:17] <[BU] Brizz> okay you like that about it, that's fine. I'm not arguing that a primarily web browser is better
[09:17] <VonGeist> put konqueror as the top application for html in the file associations section of configure-konqueror
[09:17] <VonGeist> should fix your problem
[09:18] <[BU] Brizz> VonGeist with the save! ;)
[09:20] <VonGeist> and not even a thanks....
[09:20] <[BU] Brizz> heh
[09:21] <_bon> does anyone know how to reinstall the nvidia 8762 graphics drivers
[09:21] <[BU] Brizz> heh tsdgeos wasn't very happy with me ;)
[09:21] <VonGeist> the sad thing was you were both saying the same thing! lol
[09:22] <VonGeist> that dpkg thing didn't work for you, bon?
[09:22] <[BU] Brizz> it's true, he tried to arge with me and then told me exactly what I had been saying all along lol
[09:22] <[BU] Brizz> !kopete
[09:22] <ubotu> kopete is Kopete 0.12 testing packages at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[09:22] <VonGeist> "its a shell that has a web browser in it" vs. "its a web browser that's part of a shell"
[09:22] <[BU] Brizz> lol
[09:24] <soon> Hi folks ... I want to rip a short segment from a commercial DVD and use it in the Kino video editor ... how can I do this? Should I rip and convert it to DV first? If so - what tool is available to me?
[09:31] <Spec> soon: ask in #ubuntu
[09:32] <soon> okay ...
[09:41] <elknof3> can someone help me with pcsx2 in dapper??
[09:43] <trip> hm, anyone know how to get the kmenu to auto sort?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> ralph1: Have you managed to get the version you need ?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> ralph1: Of that program you wanted ?
[09:44] <VonGeist> later all! thanks for your help earlier!
[09:45] <linuxmonkey> wassup h3sp4wn
[09:45] <JIuHgeMaHH> Hello. I've installed an Ubuntu Server on my PC. But now I want to have KDE installed over. Is it possible without downloading packages? I have Kubuntu CD.
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: hi
[09:46] <[BU] Brizz> JIuHgeMaHH: apt-cdrom
[09:46] <[BU] Brizz> !apt-cdrom
[09:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-cdrom
[09:46] <[BU] Brizz> geh
 Do you have the alternate cd ?
[09:47] <JIuHgeMaHH> h3sp4wn: I've Kubuntu Desktop CD
[09:47] <trip> [BU] Brizz, what is there to know? uses cdrom as source for apt packages
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> JIuHgeMaHH: How did you install a server from that ?
[09:47] <[BU] Brizz> trip: don't you have to do apt-cdrom add first or something?
[09:47] <JIuHgeMaHH> h3sp4wn: I have Ubuntu Server CD too :)
[09:48] <EricCartman> Anytning changed with tcl/tk lately ? make xconfig is not working. It was working fine yesterday. I can't recall if there was any update or stuff. Any idea ?
[09:48] <trip> [BU] Brizz, first before what?
[09:48] <linuxmonkey> EricCartman: no updates to my knowledge
[09:48] <[BU] Brizz> before you can use the CD
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> JIuHgeMaHH: The problem is that if you look on the desktop cd you won't find any deb's which is what you need to use a cdrom as an apt source
[09:48] <trip> [BU] Brizz, no, there is an entry in sources.list that has apt check cd-rom
[09:48] <trip> It's in sources.list by default I believe
[09:49] <[BU] Brizz> trip: oh yah? cool, that's nice... new in Dapper?
[09:49] <trip> [BU] Brizz, no, old feature
[09:49] <DjDarkman> hy ,wich unix/linux shell command prints out the transered data amount on a network device?
[09:49] <[BU] Brizz> oh I don't have that automatically
[09:49] <JIuHgeMaHH> h3sp4wn: Yeah, I just found an squashfs image on that CD, but I thought if there any tool that could extract files from that image and correctly install :)
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> unsquashfs - I don't know whether that is in the version of squashfs-tools that is with dapper though
[09:50] <Tintin> What is the best way to manage services in (K)Ubuntu?
[09:51] <JIuHgeMaHH> h3sp4wn: So, all needed KDE packages I can found on Alternate CD?
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> JIuHgeMaHH: Yes
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> JIuHgeMaHH: But if you want the latest version of kde that isn't on any cd as far as I know
[09:52] <JIuHgeMaHH> h3sp4wn: Thank you.
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> JIuHgeMaHH: If you have a dvd writer the dvd has the whole of main on it I believe
[09:55] <GullyFoyle> what's the best way to install realplayr plugin for konqueror? thru a mutiverse repo or thru real's download?
[09:55] <DjDarkman> wich unix/linux shell command prints out the transered data amount on a network device?
[09:56] <GullyFoyle> !realplayer
[09:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[09:56] <jme__> DjDarkman: ifconfig
[09:56] <linuxmonkey> yeah its ifconfig, i just checked to make sure and jme__ beat me to it
[09:57] <jme__> i checkded too, just faster :)
[09:57] <linuxmonkey> yeah im also doig a bunch of other stuff
[09:57] <GazzaK> anyone have any ideas why opengl screensavers only display on the top third of my screen? - Intel 915GM graphics
[09:57] <pit__> bonsoir  tous
[09:58] <linuxmonkey> GazzaK:  you want an honest answer or some mumbo jumbo
[09:58] <jme__> Pit, here you have to speak english. or #kubuntu-fr :)
[09:58] <pit__> ok sorry
[09:58] <jme__> no poroblem
[09:58] <GazzaK> linuxmonkey, a nice honest simple answer will do :)
[09:58] <pit__> Can I ask some question here?
[09:59] <linuxmonkey> is it onboard video?
[09:59] <jme__> pit__: this channel is dedicated to this exact purpose :)
[09:59] <r3nd3r0> pit__, dont ask to ask
[09:59] <linuxmonkey> pit__:  just ask..lol
[09:59] <pit__> lol
[09:59] <GazzaK> linuxmonkey, yes, onboard/shared memory
[10:00] <GazzaK> memory is not a problem, got two gig to play with
[10:00] <pit__> I wanted tu change my source.list and a password is required but it didn't works with my user paswd
[10:01] <jme__> there, you asked
[10:01] <jme__> and we dont answer
[10:01] <GazzaK> linuxmonkey, just found this thread - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159640 - it might answer my question?
[10:01] <linuxmonkey> my personal answer would be to get off that onboard video.  but we all know thats not possible....do you know if it happens with other gl stuff or just screensavers
[10:01] <jme__> got you!!! :)
[10:02] <GazzaK> linuxmonkey, it is a lapdog, so no way of swapping cards :)  so far, only screensavers, it is not a high priority at all
[10:03] <linuxmonkey> oh ok cool.  GazzaK if its only screensavers then im not quite sure what would cause that, what version of kde u got?
[10:04] <linuxmonkey> pit__: are you the only user on the account? or are there other users
[10:04] <pit__> yes
[10:04] <pit__> i m alone
[10:05] <GazzaK> linuxmonkey, it is kde 3.5.2 the default on in dapper 6.06
[10:05] <linuxmonkey> GazzaK:  upgrade to 3.5.3 it may help
[10:06] <GazzaK> that was something I was going to do, thanks
[10:07] <linuxmonkey> pit__: can you open the konsole and type nano /etc/sudoers and tell me whats in there by pasting to pastebin.ca
[10:07] <pit__> ok
[10:08] <pit__> I try to translate "Reading error from /etc/sudoers/ permission denied
[10:09] <micks_> bonjour
[10:09] <linuxmonkey> pit have you ever done anything that asked for a pw before?
[10:10] <pit__> no I've instal kubuntu for the first and wanted to updates it
[10:10] <eXCeSS_> http://mcccxxxvii.com/ does this website work for anyone
[10:10] <nico8481> hi
[10:10] <jme__> eXCeSS_: dns ok, tcp not responding
[10:11] <eXCeSS_> so its a servers problem?
[10:11] <jme__> yep
[10:11] <linuxmonkey> pit__: seams to me that your user for some reason wasnt setup for sudo use, im checking to see if I can find you a fix
[10:11] <eXCeSS> shit ok becuase before they were updating something adn the dns didnt work
[10:12] <pit__> A friend of mine tell me how to change the sudo pswd by using terminal but can't remember
[10:13] <[BU] Brizz> !wmv
[10:13] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:14] <linuxmonkey> the sudo pw is your user password. but it seams your user is not part of the admin or that your sudoers file is messed up
[10:15] <FearMoth> I'm trying to install vmware workstation on kubuntu dapper, and I need to compile a vmmon module, but the vmware installer says "the path /usr/src/linux/include is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file linux/version.h as expected" ... do I need to rebuild my kernel, or is there a way around it?
[10:16] <pit__> ok
[10:17] <linuxmonkey> FearMoth:  you got build-essential and linux-kernel-headers installed
[10:17] <eXCeSS> fearmoth check the guides on ubuntu forums
[10:18] <linuxmonkey> !vmware
[10:18] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[10:18] <pit__> I' succeede to open source.list
[10:18] <pit__> don't know how but don(t care
[10:18] <linuxmonkey> pit__: probably wont be able to save it though
[10:19] <pit__> I'succeeded to save it unbelievable
[10:19] <azzco> hi I've got a problem..it's not really kubuntu related...I'm trying to unrar a file and don't know where to ask for help
[10:20] <linuxmonkey> azzco: you got unrar installed?
[10:20] <GazzaK> cheers, i'll try that linuxmonkey
[10:20] <GazzaK> bye
[10:20] <DarkStone> hi
[10:20] <DarkStone> how can i extract split rar archives?
[10:20] <azzco> hello DarkStone
[10:20] <DarkStone> ark doesnt work with them
[10:20] <azzco> I'm trying to ask the same thing :D
[10:21] <DarkStone> :D
[10:21] <linuxmonkey> DarkStone and azzco you must install unrar
[10:21] <azzco> got it installed
[10:21] <DarkStone> ok
[10:21] <micks_> bye
[10:21] <azzco> just don't know how to operate it
[10:21] <linuxmonkey> and then from command line locate your rar's  (all in same folder)
[10:21] <linuxmonkey> the type unrar -x nameoffirstfile
[10:21] <DarkStone> ok
[10:22] <azzco> oh okay is it that easy?
[10:22] <DarkStone> thank you
[10:22] <linuxmonkey> yes
[10:22] <FearMoth> thanks
[10:22] <linuxmonkey> no problem
[10:22] <azzco> okay so I'll cd to the directory of the rar files then do that command
[10:22] <azzco> great thx
[10:22] <linuxmonkey> yes
[10:22] <DarkStone> theres a free and a non free version
[10:22] <DarkStone> they they both have the same command?
[10:23] <azzco> linuxmonkey: I'm still having problems...
[10:23] <linuxmonkey> im not sure
[10:23] <linuxmonkey> I got the unfree version installed
[10:23] <linuxmonkey> sorry let me check again
[10:24] <DarkStone> bah....
[10:24] <DarkStone> bash: unrar: command not found
[10:24] <DarkStone> >:O
[10:24] <azzco> hmm...
[10:24] <azzco> I've been fiddling around with installing unrar all day...
[10:24] <linuxmonkey> let me check wich one i got installed
[10:25] <azzco> I've got the freeware version
[10:25] <DarkStone> im going to install both
[10:25] <DarkStone> :)
[10:25] <azzco> hehehe darkstone
[10:25] <linuxmonkey> i just got the unrar not the unrar-free
[10:25] <DarkStone> ok
[10:25] <linuxmonkey> and it works like a charm
[10:25] <DarkStone> ill install that then
[10:26] <azzco> brbr I'm going to try a command here
[10:26] <linuxmonkey> bbiab
[10:27] <pit__> thanx linux monkey for taking time!
[10:27] <DarkStone> YAY
[10:27] <DarkStone> i installed non free version
[10:27] <DarkStone> and it works like a charm
[10:27] <DarkStone> i can now open the rar
[10:27] <azzco> linuxmonkey: should I skip the .part01.rar part when I want to unrar all of the parts?
[10:28] <DarkStone> no
[10:28] <DarkStone> finish download part01.rar
[10:28] <DarkStone> open*
[10:28] <azzco> I can open the rar with ark but when extracting I only extract the part file I'm on not all of them =(
[10:29] <DarkStone> =\
[10:29] <azzco> thought it would help doing it via shell
[10:29] <DarkStone> seems to be working fine here
[10:30] <azzco> mind helping me download your version
[10:30] <DarkStone> i just went into adept
[10:30] <azzco> oh
[10:30] <DarkStone> searched unrar
[10:30] <azzco> what was it called?
[10:30] <DarkStone> installed both version
[10:30] <DarkStone> unrar
[10:30] <azzco> one sec
[10:30] <azzco> *opening adept*
[10:32] <azzco> I only see unrar free
[10:32] <DarkStone> odd....
[10:32] <DarkStone> i can see both
[10:32] <azzco> hmmm
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> enable multiverse
[10:33] <azzco> I think that I did before
[10:33] <azzco> did some cat command via shell
[10:33] <cox377> hey all
[10:33] <DarkStone> sudo aptitude install unrar
[10:33] <DarkStone> try that
[10:34] <azzco> oops forgot to shut down adept
[10:34] <DarkStone> -.-
[10:34] <azzco> think that it's done :)
[10:35] <azzco> unrar -x filename...did that work for you?
[10:35] <DarkStone> erm
[10:35] <DarkStone> i used ark =X
[10:35] <azzco> hehe okay
[10:35] <azzco> I'll try that too ;)
[10:35] <azzco> one sec
[10:35] <DarkStone> ok :)
[10:37] <azzco> hmm it's a ISO of a game I was to lazy to go get it myself (about 40 kilometers to my freinds house -_-)
[10:37] <azzco> might take some time =/
[10:37] <DarkStone> loll
[10:37] <DarkStone> but its extracting?
[10:37] <DarkStone> if so then its working
[10:37] <DarkStone> :)
[10:37] <DarkStone> i just extracterd the iso of the fast and furious toyko drift screener ^_^
[10:38] <DarkStone> need to burn it now..
[10:38] <azzco> hehe okay
[10:38] <azzco> well I can't see how well it's doing
[10:38] <azzco> last time the extraction stopped at 16 mb
[10:38] <DarkStone> :)
[10:39] <DarkStone> well if its taking longer then its working
[10:39] <azzco> hope it works =D
[10:39] <DrBair> how do you nuke a kde session?
[10:39] <DarkStone> GRR! cd burning failed...
[10:39] <DarkStone> @_@
[10:39] <azzco> yeah it is so I'm just going to hold my thumbs and dance =)
[10:39] <heinkel_111> can anyone point me to a nice guide on troubleshooting usb camera mounting?
[10:39] <azzco> =(
[10:39] <heinkel_111> please?
[10:39] <heinkel_111> i don't know why it fails, it used to work in breezy :(
[10:40] <azzco> I don't know anything about that yet heinkel_111 sorry =(
[10:40] <DrBair> heinkel_111: is it a USB mass storage camera? most of them aren't
[10:41] <heinkel_111> well it is a olympus mju 500
[10:41] <heinkel_111> on breezy it mounted as just another usb flash disk
[10:41] <DrBair> do you have the kamera KIO slave?
[10:41] <heinkel_111> how can i check for that?
[10:42] <DrBair> its in adept
[10:42] <heinkel_111> ok
[10:42] <DrBair> seems like it is a mass storage camera though...
[10:42] <heinkel_111> will check
[10:42] <DrBair> use the command dmesg and look for any useful information when you plug the camera in
[10:42] <heinkel_111> but right now it appears like it is not even recognized as usb thing plugged in
[10:43] <heinkel_111> camera reacts to computer, but not vice versa
[10:46] <JavaGeek> hey
[10:46] <heinkel_111> DrBair: "Package: kamera digital camera io_slave for Konqueror"
[10:46] <heinkel_111> DrBair: installed
[10:46] <DrBair> shouldn't need it with that camera though
[10:47] <heinkel_111> bu cannot find out that the camera is plugged in :(
[10:47] <calandron> oe oe
[10:47] <DrBair> lsusb and dmesg will help you greatly in this case
[10:48] <radi``> zdraveite
[10:48] <radi``> pro4etox vav foruma na arenabg 4e tuk mojete da mi pomognete
[10:48] <heinkel_111> lsusb?
[10:48] <DrBair> yes in the command line
[10:48] <DrBair> show attached usb devices
[10:48] <radi``> ops sorry i wrote on bg
[10:48] <radi``> can i ask you a question
[10:48] <heinkel_111> tried it, nothing happens as i disconnect/reconnect camera cord
[10:49] <ubuntu> reuh
[10:49] <D4m4ge> bon, j'ai tout cass
[10:49] <D4m4ge> :'(
[10:50] <heinkel_111> DrBair: lsusb seems to stall a lot of things here, cannot exit it with ctrl+c or ctrl+z
[10:50] <heinkel_111> DrBair: that indicates something not working properly, right?
[10:50] <D4m4ge> ooops sorry
[10:50] <Frederick> folks my console has no colours can I have some help?
[10:50] <D4m4ge> thought i was on a french channel
[10:50] <DrBair> heinkel_111: it stalls?
[10:51] <DarkStone> :|
[10:51] <heinkel_111> DrBair:  yes
[10:51] <DarkStone> what other cd burning program is there apart from k3b
[10:51] <DarkStone> this image will not burn
[10:51] <heinkel_111> nothing happens in that terminal window after i typed lsusub
[10:52] <DrBair> sounds like a kernel issue
[10:52] <DrBair> or
[10:52] <DrBair> try removing the camera first
[10:52] <linuxmonkey> DarkStone:  wassup
[10:53] <DarkStone> what other cd burning program is there apart from k3b
[10:53] <DarkStone> this image will not burn
[10:53] <heinkel_111> dmesg was more informative...3 screensfulls or so
[10:53] <linuxmonkey> what format is the image?
[10:53] <DarkStone> bin/cue
[10:53] <heinkel_111> DarkStone.... gnomebaker
[10:53] <DarkStone> ok
[10:54] <DarkStone> how do i refresh the kdemenu to show new programs that are installed?
[10:54] <DarkStone> i usually need to restart the pc to find programs in the kde menu
[10:55] <mindspit> hallo!
[10:55] <heinkel_111> DrBair: if only the pastebin would open..i have found some stuff in dmesg
[10:56] <DarkStone> how do i refresh kubuntu to show newly installed programs in the kde menu???
[10:56] <JavaGeek> how does kubuntu mount usb devices?
[10:57] <JavaGeek> I have an external usb harddrive that it's formatted in NTFS, and I want to use the ntfsprogs tools to mount it r/w
[10:57] <linuxmonkey> DarkStone: right click on kmenu, menu editor, save and exit and it should be there now
[10:58] <JavaGeek> I think kubuntu uses pmount, but how does it determine the FS and the driver that needs to load
[10:58] <DarkStone> ./usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open FILE '/home/sohaib/Desktop/tokyodrift/The.Fast.and.the.Furious.Tokyo.Drift.TS.Subbed.VCD-maVenssupplieR/CD1/D:\The.Fast.and.the.Furious.Tokyo.Drift.TS.Subbed.VCD-maVenssupplieR\CD1\ff3.mavsupa.bin'
[10:58] <DarkStone> thats my error
[10:58] <DarkStone> it looks at D:/
[10:58] <DarkStone> my question is WHY
[10:59] <linuxmonkey> DarkStone: check your pm and please dont discuss piracy items here
[10:59] <DarkStone> ok
[10:59] <DarkStone> sorry
[10:59] <DarkStone> erm
[10:59] <DarkStone> what should i edit with
[10:59] <DarkStone> kate?
[11:00] <DarkStone> i dont want to destroy the image
[11:00] <linuxmonkey> you wont
[11:00] <linuxmonkey> cue file is just a text file
[11:00] <DarkStone> ok
[11:00] <DarkStone> ty
[11:01] <azzco> Darkstone
[11:01] <DarkStone> ?
[11:01] <azzco> do you know how to mount a iso file?
[11:02] <azzco> k3b says that my iso file isn't good for burning to CD...
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> mount -o loop
[11:02] <DarkStone> :|
[11:03] <DarkStone> ty linuxmonkey for helping
[11:03] <DarkStone> :)
[11:03] <linuxmonkey> np
[11:03] <thelostbyte_> hi ! guys..
[11:04] <thelostbyte_> How are ya all ?
[11:04] <linuxmonkey> good you
[11:04] <oomph_work> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:05] <DarkStone> cd image is burning :D
[11:05] <heinkel_111> DrBair: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/726185
[11:05] <linuxmonkey> there ya go DarkStone its not an issue with k3b...k3b rocks
[11:06] <DarkStone> :)
[11:06] <DarkStone> kubuntu rocks
[11:06] <DarkStone> :D
[11:06] <linuxmonkey> that it does
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> If only it ran faster
[11:06] <DarkStone> its fast enough for me
[11:06] <heinkel_111> linuxmonkey..help me troubleshoot k3b some other day, it doesn't even start burning lol
[11:06] <linuxmonkey> lol
[11:06] <DarkStone> the only slowdown is the bootup
[11:06] <linuxmonkey> lol
[11:06] <DarkStone> but thats about it
[11:06] <|lostbyte|> :)
[11:07] <linuxmonkey> DarkStone: type /sysinfo for me in here
[11:07] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone using freenx on 6.06 kubuntu?
[11:07] <DarkStone> Sysinfo for 'sohaib-laptop': Linux 2.6.15-25-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)4-MCPU1.80GHz at 2319 MHz (2395 bogomips), , RAM: 248/250MB, 96 proc's, 6.2h up
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> Thank Mark Shuttleworth :)
[11:07] <linuxmonkey> DarkStone: want a performance boost?
[11:07] <DarkStone> sure
[11:08] <DarkStone> :)
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> huh ! disable unwanted boot options.
[11:09] <|lostbyte|> Set a low resolution Wallpaper.
[11:09] <DarkStone> urm
[11:09] <DarkStone> how...
[11:09] <linuxmonkey> ok in console type sudo apt-get linux-686
[11:09] <DarkStone> will this affect my cd burning?
[11:09] <|lostbyte|> Disable some KDE effects..
[11:09] <linuxmonkey> then when its done reboot and it should boost it a bit
[11:09] <DarkStone> :)
[11:09] <DarkStone> ok
[11:09] <DarkStone> ty
[11:10] <linuxmonkey> heheh 386 vs 686 :)
[11:10] <DarkStone> whats teh diff
[11:10] <DarkStone> :S
[11:10] <Guest202> hi, want to install kubuntu on a p3, 800mhz Duron AMD, 256 MB. WIll that work? thanks-torli
[11:10] <Official_C> hmm we were talking bout this yesterday
[11:10] <azzco> sorry I had to reboot my computer...
[11:10] <linuxmonkey> 686 better for faster cpu's
[11:10] <azzco> don't know why but nothing worked
[11:10] <DarkStone> ok
[11:10] <Official_C> 686 is more advanced and beter suited for the more modern pentiums is what i;ve heard
[11:10] <DarkStone> will it cause any compat probs?
[11:10] <azzco> I was asking on how to mount a iso
[11:10] <Official_C> and amds
[11:10] <linuxmonkey> shouldnt
[11:11] <Official_C> or whatever
[11:11] <DarkStone> ok
[11:11] <linuxmonkey> azzco:
[11:11] <linuxmonkey> mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[11:11] <azzco> thx
[11:11] <Official_C> modern processors using the intel architecture
[11:11] <|lostbyte|> azzco, man mount
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> But why is the server kernel built for 386 ? probably doesn't make much difference
[11:11] <|lostbyte|> azzco, Check on "-f" and "-o loop"
[11:12] <Official_C> probably because alot of people use older computers for servers?? i really dont know
[11:12] <linuxmonkey> h3sp4wn:  i noticed quite a bit difference
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> azzco, See the structure of the syntax. and things will be clear.
[11:12] <azzco> I'll try linuxmonkey's command first lostbyte ;)
[11:12] <fiyawerx_> not sure i'm doing the right thing when it comes to nomachines nxclient, anyone familiar with that?
[11:12] <azzco> oh...you're speaking to a noob
[11:12] <linuxmonkey> azzco: burn it, it be simpler
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: Try the kanotix kernel you will feel a much more noticable difference
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> linuxmonkey: just install the source deb and build it yourself
[11:13] <DarkStone> yay! the image is finally done
[11:13] <DarkStone> :)
[11:13] <Official_C> i cant wait till my "Practical Guide to Linux" book gets here
[11:13] <Official_C> anyone else have that?
[11:13] <azzco> linuxmonkey: I couldn't k3b wouldn't let me
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> azathoth, ok ! here you go mount -t auto file.iso /mnt/ -o loop
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> azzco, Some thing wrong with the iso then.. whats the exact error ?
[11:15] <JavaGeek> how does kubuntu handel the HAL interface?
[11:15] <DarkStone> linuxmonkey
[11:15] <DarkStone> same here
[11:15] <azzco> one sec lostbyte
[11:15] <DarkStone> my router is linux
[11:16] <DarkStone> no windows on this pc either
[11:16] <DarkStone> :D
[11:16] <DarkStone> i want to get to know linux a bit better ;)
[11:16] <alex___> hey there's something good to do here??
[11:17] <azzco> lostbyte "doesn't seem to be a useful image" I'm not to good at translating from swedish to english but I think that would be correct
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, tldp.org
[11:17] <DarkStone> ?
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> ok
[11:17] <DarkStone> what is that
[11:17] <DarkStone> linuxmonkey
[11:17] <alex___> there's no woman in here????????????????????????????????????????
[11:17] <DarkStone> im registring my nick
[11:18] <alex___> this is so lame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:18] <alex___> dame
[11:18] <alex___> dam
[11:19] <azzco> alex___: spam is not a good thing...not anywhere remember that
[11:21] <Official_C> DarkStone: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131478230/sr=8-2/qid=1151011250/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-7672029-2992059?%5Fencoding=UTF8
[11:21] <DarkStone> official_c?
[11:22] <Official_C> did you check it out?
[11:22] <DarkStone> wait
[11:22] <DarkStone> im doing it now
[11:22] <DarkStone> :)
[11:22] <Official_C> i just ordered it recently, its gotten rave reviews
[11:22] <DarkStone> wow
[11:22] <DarkStone> looks good
[11:22] <DarkStone> :)
[11:22] <DarkStone> hrm
[11:23] <Official_C> yeah, nice price too, huh?
[11:23] <DarkStone> i wonder if theres one of those for the uk
[11:23] <DarkStone> yh
[11:23] <Official_C> amazon.co.uk i think
[11:23] <DarkStone> ill have a look
[11:23] <DarkStone> :)
[11:23] <azzco> hmm k3b doesn't want to burn =s
[11:23] <azzco> it says that there isn't enough room on the CD
[11:23] <DarkStone> azzco
[11:23] <Official_C> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0131478230/qid=1151011413/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-7657962-4610006
[11:23] <DarkStone> enable overburning
[11:23] <Official_C> did it for ya, lol
[11:23] <azzco> same problem as you dark stone?
[11:23] <DarkStone> lol official_c
[11:24] <DarkStone> u beat me to it
[11:24] <zommes> good day
[11:24] <DarkStone> azzco
[11:24] <DarkStone> i had a diff problem
[11:24] <DarkStone> what size is ur image?
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> azzco, Whats the size of it ?
[11:24] <zommes> what do you suggest for a telnet client?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> telnet
[11:24] <zommes> if i may ask
[11:24] <azzco> 738.4 MiByte
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> zommes, nc
[11:24] <DarkStone> azzco
[11:24] <DarkStone> then enable overburn
[11:24] <zommes> yes but to play mud game's
[11:24] <DarkStone> in settings
[11:24] <DarkStone> and it will let you burn it
[11:24] <DarkStone> :)
[11:24] <azzco> ahh
[11:25] <zommes> nc?
[11:25] <|lostbyte|> :)
[11:25] <azzco> DarkStone: I get it now =D
[11:25] <Official_C> oh, btw if you were wondering why i am telling you, its cause you said you wanted to get to know linux better, lol...as do I
[11:25] <DarkStone> :)
[11:25] <DarkStone> ok
[11:25] <|lostbyte|> zommes, netcat
[11:25] <zommes> ok
[11:25] <DarkStone> official_c ty i will order this book asap
[11:25] <DarkStone> :)
[11:25] <zommes> can i install it with adept?
[11:25] <Official_C> DarkStone: awesome man
[11:25] <DarkStone> i ordered a couple of ubuntu disks
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> zommes, yes.
[11:26] <DarkStone> im going to try and get people to try linux out
[11:26] <DarkStone> :)
[11:26] <blitz> I have a fresh install of kubuntu 6.06, and when I install wine, I cant run or configure it... it keeps stalling when it creates the ./wine directory
[11:26] <azzco> I need to find a begtter CD...
[11:26] <zommes> |lostbyte|, thank you
[11:26] <Official_C> DarkStone: from ubuntu?
[11:26] <DarkStone> yes
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> ;)
[11:26] <Official_C> so you got them free , right?
[11:26] <DarkStone> is there a kubuntu cd aswell?
[11:26] <DarkStone> yes
[11:27] <Official_C> nice...that mark shuttleworth is a great guy
[11:27] <blitz> is there something I need to configure first to get wine to work?
[11:27] <DarkStone> yer
[11:27] <azzco> okay I'll try a DVD I haven't been able to burn DVDs in windows =)
[11:27] <DarkStone> =)
[11:27] <DarkStone> ok
[11:27] <DarkStone> hrm
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> blitz, nothing.. just run winecfg
[11:27] <DarkStone> is wine an emulator or a virtualization app?
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> and click ok..
[11:27] <radi``> how can i mount my cdrom ?
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, emulator
[11:28] <DarkStone> bah
[11:28] <DarkStone> then itll be slow..
[11:28] <DarkStone> forget it
[11:28] <DarkStone> :|
[11:28] <azzco> WINdows Emulator
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> radi``, Get to know your fstab
[11:28] <DarkStone> u know what i find funny
[11:28] <heinkel_111> hello
[11:28] <radi``> i am very new :/
[11:28] <DarkStone> how bill gates thought of the name Windows
[11:28] <heinkel_111> DrBair: you still here?
[11:28] <DarkStone> =\
[11:28] <radi``> |lostbyte| how can i know it
[11:28] <azzco> Lol DarkStone
[11:29] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, Nope ! its growing to be Fast and more efficent with the next release every time..
[11:29] <DarkStone> for all i know he could of had called it Doors XP
[11:29] <DarkStone> lostbyte is it free?
[11:29] <|lostbyte|> radi``, /etc/fstab
[11:29] <|lostbyte|> radi``, Google for it, and read ! if you still dont get it come back..
[11:30] <Official_C> i watched a video on youTube today of steve jobs demoing the NeXt operating system back in 1991...it was truly ahead of its time
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, Yup ! wine is free -> winehq.com
[11:30] <Official_C> it looked better than windows 95
[11:30] <DarkStone> :O
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, cedega is non-free and it supports directx which plays almost all the games.. Awesome
[11:30] <DarkStone> =\
[11:30] <Official_C> has anyone here ever used NeXt?
[11:30] <DarkStone> hrm
[11:31] <DarkStone> how much does it cost?
[11:31] <Official_C> hmm, maybe i shouldnt go so off topic :/ bad habit of mine
[11:32] <DarkStone> lol
[11:32] <bobstro> Official_C:  i've been kicked for less
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, 15 $ fore 3 months and 5$ each month from then on.. check on it.. maybe changed
[11:32] <DarkStone> ok
[11:32] <DarkStone> one thing i dont understand
[11:32] <DarkStone> wint it need drivers to use direct x?
[11:32] <Official_C> bobstro: people in IRC seem to be really hardcore about staying on topic
[11:32] <DarkStone> or does it use some default ones?
[11:32] <zommes> Lostbyte, do you know a telnet client in wich you have an independent command line?
[11:32] <Official_C> im kinda new to the IRC thing
[11:33] <DarkStone> ive been using irc for a long time now
[11:33] <bobstro> Official_C:  it varies by channel, definitely
[11:33] <DarkStone> i find that u can get off topic in some places
[11:33] <Official_C> bobstro: true
[11:33] <Official_C> how long has IRC been around?
[11:33] <DarkStone> years...
[11:33] <bobstro> DarkStone:  varies by time of day (and which ops are live).
[11:33] <bobstro> Official_C:  gawd, LONG time
[11:33] <DarkStone> :P
[11:33] <Official_C> like 10 years?
[11:33] <h3sp4wn> Not as long as usenet
[11:34] <bobstro> Official_C:  it was around in late 1990s i believe. at least a precursor.
[11:34] <Official_C> oh ok
[11:34] <bobstro> 1988 -- heh, i did mean *early* 1990's. sheesh.
[11:34] <Official_C> bobstro: oh ok lol
[11:35] <bobstro> Official_C:  i first used it in early 1990's, so remember it from then.
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> I love irc.
[11:35] <DarkStone> lostbyte
[11:35] <DarkStone> same here
[11:35] <Official_C> oh wow
[11:35] <DarkStone> :)
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> BEcause freenode is in it..
[11:35] <bobstro> Official_C:  ah, crap. i forgot about the soviet coup link -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[11:35] <azzco> okay I'm going to see how well my CD was burnt
[11:36] <Official_C> hmm, soviet coup...sounds like a juicy scheme
[11:36] <DarkStone> :P
[11:36] <DarkStone> j/j
[11:36] <DarkStone> j/k
[11:37] <DarkStone> one thing i dont understand yet
[11:37] <bobstro> Official_C:  irc played a part. i'd forgotten that.
[11:37] <DarkStone> how do i install themes
[11:37] <DarkStone> O_O
[11:37] <azzco> *hits DarkStone in the head with melted CD* Get me a new CD!
[11:38] <bobstro> DarkStone:  there are several in apt repositories, or you can hit kde-look.org
[11:38] <DarkStone> ok
[11:38] <DarkStone> how would i install them?
[11:38] <Official_C> Darkstone: what kinda internet connection did you have back then?
[11:38] <DarkStone> 10 years ago?
[11:38] <DarkStone> XD
[11:38] <Official_C> like a 14.4 kbps?
[11:38] <DarkStone> 56k
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, use the gui tool.
[11:38] <DarkStone> gui tool?
[11:38] <DarkStone> where
[11:38] <Official_C> did you have an internet connection in 1991?
[11:38] <DarkStone> i dont think so...
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> yeah ! with comes with kde control panel..
[11:38] <DarkStone> O.O
[11:38] <DarkStone> whats it called
[11:39] <bobstro> Official_C:  depends by what you mean by "internet", but i was on a dial-up ISP (which was new at the time)
[11:39] <DarkStone> official_c i was 2 years old in 1991 XD
[11:39] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, Dont you see theme manager ?
[11:39] <Official_C> bobstro: yes, all i mean is anything that connects you to another computer thats not on the same LAN
[11:39] <azzco> NOOOO "couldn't open document" ='(
[11:39] <DarkStone> lostbyte
[11:39] <Official_C> DarkStone: sorry, i meant to address bobstro instead of you
[11:39] <DarkStone> no its not there
[11:39] <DarkStone> ok
[11:40] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, ok do this.
[11:40] <Official_C> lost track of which conversation was which, lol
[11:40] <DarkStone> lol
[11:40] <azzco> CRAP I need to game installed till tommorow we've arranged an event =( I wont be able to make it it seems
[11:40] <DarkStone> azzco
[11:40] <DarkStone> get a CD
[11:40] <DarkStone> not a dvd
[11:40] <DarkStone> now
[11:40] <DarkStone> go into k3b
[11:40] <|lostbyte|> DarkStone, alt+f2 > kcontrol > Appearence and themes > theme manager.
[11:40] <DarkStone> ty lostbyte
[11:40] <azzco> it'll cost me about 10 american dollars for the bussfare alone...
[11:41] <azzco> and I'll have to make a couple of phone calls
[11:41] <azzco> I shouldn't have left My CD at his place...
[11:41] <|lostbyte|> ;)
[11:41] <DarkStone> azzco, open k3b, goto settings->configure k3b
[11:41] <DaSkreech> linuxmonkey: PS3:0
[11:42] <DarkStone> azzco click on the advance tab
[11:42] <azzco> one sec I don't know if I got the right window open
[11:42] <DarkStone> make sure overburning is checked..
[11:42] <DarkStone> ok
[11:42] <azzco> still got a swedish layout ;)
[11:42] <|lostbyte|> azzco, Did ut burn successfully ?
[11:43] <azzco> it's on CD allright
[11:43] <azzco> but as a data CD -_-
[11:43] <azzco> need to reburn it I think
[11:43] <DarkStone> burn the image silly
[11:44] <azzco> yeah I just realized that it was a data CD lol
[11:44] <DarkStone> -.-
[11:44] <|lostbyte|> azzco, No !
[11:44] <azzco> lostbyte should it work anyways?
[11:44] <|lostbyte|> azzco, you need to burn it as an image not aa Data.
[11:44] <azzco> I know I'm just about to burn it ;)
[11:44] <DarkStone> :P
[11:44] <DarkStone> lol
[11:45] <DarkStone> azzco*
[11:45] <|lostbyte|> azzco, tools > burn cd image
[11:45] <SeanTater> DarkStone: I hate to nitpick but you're filling the channel, how about not always using 'enter' as punctuation
[11:45] <azzco> lmao
[11:45] <DarkStone> :|
[11:45] <DarkStone> ok
[11:45] <DarkStone> sorry lol
[11:45] <thechris> wow.  my video card actually makes a loud noise when glxgears runs
[11:45] <thechris> i thought they added sound to it...
[11:45] <azzco> lol thechris
[11:46] <|lostbyte|> lolz
[11:46] <|lostbyte|> Nice one..
[11:46] <DarkStone> :| are you sure thats right?
[11:46] <SeanTater> thechris: get out an air duster and make sure it;s clean
[11:46] <|lostbyte|> thechris, Clean the FAN..
[11:46] <azzco> doesn't want to open the cd drive =/ how should I be able to add a fresh CD if it wont open?
[11:46] <mindspit> is there an official ispconfig.org forum ?
[11:47] <SeanTater> thechris: but only the compressed-air type thingie, featherdister, etc will kill it
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> azzco, When you insert the cd an icon is displaed on your Beautiful desktop..
[11:48] <DarkStone> brb
[11:48] <jeff_> can someone tell me how to load a chess engine for Knights?
[11:49] <azzco> I'll be trying to let me computer cool down for a while ;)
[11:49] <azzco> take care folks
[11:49] <bobstro> jeff_:  i just installed GNUchess and Phalanx via synaptic, and it found them
[11:49] <zommes> I'm sorry, but how do I get an independent command line?
[11:50] <zommes> (in the telnet client)
[11:50] <jeff_> ok i'll try that
[11:50] <|lostbyte|> zommes, huh ?
[11:50] <bobstro> zommes:  what do you mean 'independent'?
[11:51] <jeff_> what is phalanx?
[11:51] <zommes> well, all when i type, all the txt flows through my typing
[11:51] <zommes> -all
[11:51] <|lostbyte|> jeff_, its an engine.
[11:51] <jeff_> ok
[11:51] <bobstro> jeff_:  search on "chess" in synaptic
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> zommes, konsole ?
[11:52] <zommes> yes
[11:53] <ubuntu> hi all
[11:53] <|lostbyte|> zommes, Is your Transperency on ?
[11:53] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, hi !
[11:54] <mindspit> The Greek phalanx was a column formation of heavy infantry carrying long spears, or pikes, and swords.
[11:54] <zommes> Lostbyte, how do I check that?
[11:54] <mindspit> :) GUESS... i am greek :)
[11:54] <thechris> how do i make kubunutu more responsive?
[11:54] <|lostbyte|> zommes, can you see threw.
[11:55] <zommes> no
[11:55] <|lostbyte|> thechris, Pls ! explain..
[11:55] <zommes> its a window
[11:55] <thechris> that is the one thing i really notice is that my gentoo install was signifigantly less jerky and had less display issues
[11:55] <thechris> though my gentoo install destabalizes for unknown reasons...
[11:55] <thechris> which is what led me to kubuntu
[11:56] <|lostbyte|> zommes, what graphic card ?
[11:56] <zommes> TNT2
[11:56] <zommes> this my old pc
[11:56] <thechris> ok, nm, i think i figured out my gentoo problems...
[11:56] <thechris> as kubuntu has the same issues...
[11:57] <|lostbyte|> zommes, its Display related..
[11:57] <thechris> i think cedega messes something up in kde, which prevents apps from closing properly
[11:57] <zommes> ok, but i just want it to look like this irc-chat, a text window and a line beneath to type
[11:57] <zommes> i used to have that in windows
[11:58] <Sikavica> mindspit, it is actually macedonian phalanx
[11:58] <|lostbyte|> zommes, what was it called ?
[11:58] <zommes> telnet
[11:58] <mindspit> yes indeed .... macedonia ... in that times was a greek city ...
[11:59] <thechris> so i wonder if there is a fix for that, since it appears to be a cedega/kde bug.
[11:59] <|lostbyte|> thechris, Ask in #cedega if its something to do with cedega.
[11:59] <mindspit> and not that country you think .... :( i am not going to argue about it any more :) just me not a facist!
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> thechris, As far as i know.. is that i kill the wine-server if i get dragged after clossing a wine program.
[12:00] <thechris> after running cedega, konsole, kwin, knotify, ktaskbar, ect... will continue running, but when i log out they all crash.
[12:01] <thechris> after a while in gentoo, it just stopped logging out
[12:01] <gumpo> Whenever i run Adept, i get an error message that says, "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar." Does anyone know how i can fix this?
[12:01] <thechris> and at that point i installed kubuntu, which now has the same issue
[12:02] <erov> grr.. everything BUT hardware opengl works with my ati card.. and i can't figure out why.. have followed every documented line in the conf to the T
[12:03] <|lostbyte|> thechris, apt-get --reconfigure -a
[12:03] <|lostbyte|> and try again..