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[04:04] is universe syncing yet? [04:05] jdong: most of the core-developers are in paris and its 4 am right now [04:05] so you might not get an answer [04:05] k === shenki [n=shenki@ppp148-165.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD10BF8.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:51] What linker options are used with glibc in ubuntu? [05:00] bluefoxicy: apt-get source the package and find out [05:00] nevermind I see [05:00] bluefoxicy: I think --omg-optimised is one of them [05:00] lol [05:01] sladen: I'm talking to someone about interesting optimizations that get major speed gains but that never got into binutils or libc because of prelink [05:01] hi paul [05:01] because of prelink? or without it? [05:02] whiprush_: morning [05:02] sladen: you in paris? [05:02] sladen: Guy got my hopes up, then told me the patch never made it in :( [05:02] whiprush_: why yes. Not that it's actually particularly near to Paris, somewhere next to an airport [05:02] heh [05:03] sladen: there's some old binutils linker switch -Bdirect that somehow makes linking a lot faster without actually prelinking, or so I gather. The patch is probably unmaintained, and not in upstream; I thought it was in upstream, so I was gonna recommend building using it if it turns out to work as advertised. [05:03] sladen: hey if you see jdub this morning and if he has time, can you ping him about my blog feed on planet? I'm pretty sure my feed is fine, and I want to blog about the new ubuntu book buy don't want to break planet. [05:04] I'm heading to bed so I don't think I'll be able to track him down anytime soon. [05:05] whiprush_: I'm sure he'll notice when he wakes up. It's a bit early and during the hours of darkness I think jdub normally sleeps in his vampire costume, so I might not want to go knocking until after breakfast... :) [05:05] sladen: heh, no problems. [05:05] You are a gentleman and a scholar. === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-187-0-217.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:09] whiprush_: and a sleepy one at that === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-60-117.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === upalm_irc [n=upalm@219.140.56.151] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:33] exit [05:46] uh. Evolution asks for my time zone. It probably should ask the system. === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.108.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-187-0-217.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-187-0-217.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.51.59] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-36.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aedwards232 [n=aedwards@cpe-24-174-147-69.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:42] When will xen be a mainstream part of Ubuntu? [06:47] probably sometime this release cycle. [06:47] probably very soon in egdy, judging by work done already [06:48] morning Mithrandir :) [06:48] ehlo, ajmitch === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-60-117.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aedwards232 [n=aedwards@cpe-24-174-147-69.satx.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:17] ajmitch: how's work going on? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:28] hi all === fabbione yawns [07:29] morning guys [07:30] afternoon fabbione! === Hobbsee drops a few ice cubes down fabbione's back. [07:31] Hobbsee: #@!* [07:32] fabbione: you wanted to be woken up didnt you? [07:32] nope [07:33] i love to enjoy my liter or so of coffee [07:33] haha [07:34] scary [07:34] why is that scary? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:35] just the thought of drinking so much coffee in one hit... [07:35] you must end up bouncing off the walls.. [07:37] no, it's not in one hit [07:37] it takes about one hour [07:37] and no i don't jump on walls.. [07:37] oh. pity. that could be kinda amusing. [07:37] i used to drink much more but i did cut down a lot after quitting smoking [07:38] ah... [07:38] well, at least the drinking isnt likely to kill you, whereas the smoking will - so i think you quit the right thing. [07:38] that really depends.. [07:39] my grand-grand-mother died 105 years old, smoking 40 cigarettes (of the worst quality) each day [07:39] she just felt asleep on couch [07:39] ack === Hobbsee cant even comprehend that. [07:39] i can also tell you of my huncle that dies of cancer 30 years old. He didn't smoke, drink or anything [07:39] so it's a matter of "luck" [07:40] i did quit only because i am going to be father in about 3 weeks [07:40] and i am not doing it for me because i love smoking [07:40] fair enough === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-005.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee just isnt willing to be thrown out of the house for it. [07:41] Hobbsee: fair enough :) both my parents were heavy smokers.. [07:41] so it didn't make much of a diff when i started [07:42] true [07:43] actually, i dont care if people do smoke - just if they have a smoke, then they come and breathe over me, then they'd better expect me to whinge and whine and hit them till they go away...oh, and hit them in the arm till they do. [07:43] my boss knows this :P [07:46] /end rant [07:46] :) === Hobbsee tells self to shut up, as fabbione didnt. === Yagisan hands Hobbsee his shovel so she can keep digging [07:48] heh, thanks Yagisan === Hobbsee goes back to hide in her little corner. [07:49] Hobbsee: no worries. For some reason I wasn't using it today, so I though you could get some use out of it [07:49] Yagisan: you sure LaserJock couldnt use it again? he was doing so well with it yesterday! === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:51] Hobbsee: I must have missed that. I've been running around like a headless chook getting my uni stuff done [07:51] Yagisan: ah, fun. it was over him saying i needed to become a MOTU so i could become the MOTU calendar girl. [07:52] enough said, really :P [07:52] Hobbsee: i am not that evil.. but i can be much worst :) [07:52] haha, right, i'll have to remember that. === Hobbsee makes a mental note to never meet up with fabbione [07:56] eheh === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:58] hi imbrandon_ === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:04] in the sources list, why are we making this happen? # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: [08:05] surely that just causes more problems, when the internet connection finally is gotten, but cant find any packages. [08:08] Hobbsee: otherwise apt will refuse to install stage 2 (desktop) === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:09] fabbione: ah, i see. and why do we have multiverse listed as part of backports, but not just normally multiverse? [08:10] hmmm...that didnt seem to make much sense. [08:10] is it? [08:10] i didn't notice [08:10] but backport is disabled by default due to its.. *special* nature [08:10] yes [08:10] really, multiverse should either be in multiple locations, or taken out fully [08:11] Hobbsee: agreed.. file a wishlist bug on apt-setup (installler) [08:11] its so confusing to users who say "yes, i've got multiverse enabled, i can see it" who we then have to say "well, actually, that's backports multiverse, the multiverse you're really looking for is this multiverse" [08:11] so the package is apt-setup? === fabbione rechecks === Hobbsee contemplates just patching it, and adding that to the wishlist bug. [08:12] yeps [08:13] fabbione: is that where you mean, or i havent found the correct thing yet? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/apt-setup/+bugs [08:14] yeah that one [08:14] cool, thanks :) === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-005.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione zero's a few machines to test cluster === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-238-183.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dieman [n=dieman@3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:34] fabbione: done, thanks :) [08:34] no problem === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:35] weird that we cant set the status of our own bug though. [08:35] morning mdz [08:35] hi mdz [08:35] Hobbsee: You need to be in the bugsquad to do that now I think. [08:36] dsas: ah, okay, interesting. might have to join that then, as i tend to deal with a lot of the kde bugs. === Hobbsee joins. thanks for that dsas :) [08:39] morning === lukketto [n=lukketto@host130-27.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] mdz: why does /schedule/$today give me a 403? [08:48] hi Mithrandir === seb128 [n=seb@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] hiya Hobbsee. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] How's Sydney today? === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] Mithrandir: okay, i went shopping :) [08:51] Hobbsee: you girl. ;-) [08:52] hehe [08:52] Hobbsee: found anything interesting? [08:52] Mithrandir: yeah, two jackets and a light [08:52] light as in torch? === Hobbsee rarely goes shopping. she's a betrayer of her sex. [08:52] yeah [08:52] Morning all. [08:52] morning TheMuso! === el [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke helloes [08:57] good mornig [08:57] hi mdke! [08:57] hi jsgotangco [08:58] hello, world. [08:58] hello, city [08:58] hi desrt, from a green bug eyed monster from outer space. [08:58] is that you? [08:58] or just a friend? === Hobbsee is a green bug eyed monster, yes. 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[10:24] GO HERE NOW [10:24] =) [10:24] ok, be right there === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb@ALagny-109-1-10-249.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] wow. adding teams to a team makes launchpad quite noisy... [10:31] i like the To: a, b, c [10:31] thats a bit dodge :\ === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@ALagny-109-1-10-249.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Grebo5 [n=Grebo@toronto-HSE-ppp4305599.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === shenki [n=shenki@d58-104-110-21.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:41] siretart: those emails are a bit cryptic too, it took a while for me to figure out what the heck the id of the new team was [10:41] LP thing I guess === glatzor_mobile [n=sebi@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@83-65-231-90.work.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] LaserJock: I didn't remember that lp is that noisy. next time I will provide a comment in the textfield === Whoopie [n=Whoopie@192.166.56.68] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:44] but this won't be too soon, I hope [10:44] hehe === eln [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-10-249.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RicardoPerez [n=A@84-122-157-78.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RicardoPerez [n=A@84-122-157-78.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:01] Kamion: Do you have that patch fot ehatspi stuf somewhere where I can grab it? === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-252-10.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SeanTater_ [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === patwack [n=paddy@cpc3-blfs2-0-0-cust141.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgut [n=mathias@chello213047054216.31.11.tuwien.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@c177217.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-10-249.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:07] TheMuso: can we look at kubuntu-accessibility at 17:00? [12:08] anyone got sight of mvo? [12:08] Riddell: Sure thing. I'm free. [12:08] TheMuso: is henrick around for you to ask too? [12:08] Not atm. he went to have a rest, I don't think he is feeling that great today. [12:09] He said he would probably see me after lunch, so the est thing we can do is ask him then I think. [12:09] s/that great/not that great [12:09] TheMuso: ok [12:09] He is free according ot the schedule. [12:09] thanks jsgotangco === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-48-98.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eln [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-10-249.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-252-10.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === erez [n=erez@85-250-183-198.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] w/in 8 [12:30] argh... === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] elmo: ping [12:38] here is the list of OFL fonts: http://scripts.sil.org/OFL_fonts [12:38] jdub: you can even use ttf-gentium on Ubuntu, it's *not* optimized for gentoo ;-P === pitti_ [n=pitti@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] GENTIUM, OPTIMISED FOR GENTOO USING GENTLEMENT [12:42] WHO LIVE IN GENT [12:42] (bah on beligians for pronouncing that so badly) === patwack [n=paddy@cpc3-blfs2-0-0-cust141.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] belgians [12:42] ha ha === Mithrandir turns down the jdub-o-volume. [12:43] Error: cannot open /dev/mixer: device not found === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:44] And here I was wondering why mdz is in France. [12:44] And then my brain kicked in. === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-211-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gapz [n=gapz@84.7.186.134] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nuffing [n=JaneW@dsl-165-211-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@dsl-72-1-199.219.tel-ott.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === el [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@ALagny-109-1-2-202.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] is there any work going on on forwarding bugs in launchpad to debian where appropriate? I just discovered a couple of bugs were filed on packages I maintain in Debian, but those reports haven't reached debian yet, one of them being from august 2005. Since those bugs are just as relevant for Debian too and could've been solved if they were known, it'd be cool if they were forwarded, esp. when there's no ubuntu activity on the bug for let's say ... [02:14] ... half a year? [02:15] jvw: you want to talk to bradb on #launchpad [02:16] the definition of appropriate is really delicate as you can imagine yourself [02:16] yeah, I'm aware of the discussions/flames... [02:17] maybe something like 'try to file the bug with debian' as automatic comment after a certain amount of inactivity? [02:17] there was talk about setting up a list similar to LowThresholdNMU, so you could forwar bugs to a whitelist of DDs === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ALagny-109-1-2-101.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:18] jvw: as i said it's best if you talk to bradb [02:18] there can be tons of different implemenations i think [02:19] but the major point is exactly what azeem mentioned.. how DD's would like to receive the info? [02:19] assuming they want it, and if not how to filter.. blablablablablabla*flame*blablabla*flame*etc... [02:19] or there could be a feature "subribe me to all bugs reports affecting packages maintained by me in Debian" [02:19] subscribe [02:19] azeem: exactly.. there can be tons of different implementation === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] but bradb is the malone god :) [02:20] azeem: there is already for inidividual packages i think === eln [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === qweasdzxc [n=tapeworm@d83-176-120-12.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] the PTS now supports getting derivative bugs/upload notifications etc that are seperately disableble/enableble === Nuffing [n=JaneW@dsl-165-211-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === carlos_ [n=carlos@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gapz [n=gapz@84.7.186.134] has left #ubuntu-devel ["init] === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@81.80.162.93] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === plugins [n=kvirc@e178195244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-36.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@ALagny-109-1-2-101.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] Riddell: Oh BTW, will we have the Bof at Henrik's table? I still haven't seen him yet. [03:01] someone: is +35 france phone number? [03:01] I think it's 31 === mdke looks [03:01] 33 [03:02] +33 [drop the leading zero] [03:02] you win! [03:02] I'm french, so ... :) === plugins [n=kvirc@e178195244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@81.80.162.93] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:06] +31 is the netherlands [03:06] wonder who called me from Cyprus... [03:09] TheMuso: the gap in the schedule is for Atlas 4/1, but we can do it with at heno's if he's around [03:09] Ok. === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A9455B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:11] hi simira === seb128 [n=seb@ALagny-109-1-2-101.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lloydinho [n=andreas@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:26] Heya folks === eln [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:36] mdz: could you assign gst-to-umbrella to me on launchpad? === j_ack [n=nico@p508D96D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kbyrd [n=Miranda@mailout1.vmware.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-105-165-49.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:05] Has anybody seen Henrik at all since lunch? [04:05] TheMuso: he's just coming in now [04:05] Oh ok. [04:05] TheMuso: he's at atlas 1 [04:06] np [04:06] Was not sure whether he was around. 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[05:05] we need to borrow henrick === `6og [n=6og@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Later"] === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kamp1ng_@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has left #Ubuntu-devel ["Later"] === _mike [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:07] its becoming a stalemate [05:07] jsgotangco: it wasnt before? [05:08] jsgotangco: was anything agreed on? [05:08] its always been like that :/ [05:08] unfortunate [05:08] ajmitch: to get the guy on the phone tomorrow instead. [05:08] but roald is here and great to have him around [05:08] yes, I saw that === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === yosch [n=yosch@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:13] What spec was that? [05:14] forums stuff [05:14] oh ok. === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] Heya crimsun === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === __keybuk [n=scott@ALagny-109-1-2-101.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@ALagny-109-1-2-101.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.176] has joined #ubuntu-devel === patwack [n=paddy@cpc3-blfs2-0-0-cust141.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:50] lifeless: is there a way for me to get the diff which would result if I did bzr merge? [05:50] so bzr merge ; bzr diff ; bzr revert, except bzr revert doesn't always work. [05:50] Mithrandir: why not just do it and revert --no-backups later? === lukketto [n=lukketto@host130-27.pool877.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:50] Mithrandir: oh [05:50] pitti: because revert doesn't always revert properly. [05:50] I can't remember the failure cases, but there are bugs filed. [05:54] Mithrandir: bzr rever should always work [05:54] Mithrandir: bug #'s ? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:58] lifeless: I can't find it now. [05:58] assume its fixed then [05:58] Mithrandir: I had troubles in the past as well and filed bugs, but they got fixed a while ago === jbailey [n=jbailey@ALagny-109-1-2-101.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:01] sivang: ping === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.63.146] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:09] Kinnison: adding it into bterm however.. :-) [06:12] Mithrandir: *g* === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MoNkUnClE [n=ximian@ip68-110-200-177.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.108.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dem [n=dem@d192-24-139-155.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-11.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Robot101 [n=robot101@light.bluelinux.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:07] BenC: ping === nekohayo [n=jeff@69.64.63.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:09] Keybuk: pong [07:09] BenC: speakup [07:09] have you read the spec? [07:09] I can't talk any louder [07:10] Keybuk: not lately [07:10] heh [07:10] I read over it when the BoF was happening, but not since [07:11] could you do it quickly, if you're not busy [07:11] yeah, pulling it up now === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:14] Keybuk: looks pretty much like what I heard at the BoF, the only thing new that I wasn't aware of before (and it's pretty obvious if you think about it) is the need for sound driver udeb's [07:15] Keybuk: I have speakup in the kernel already, and building nicely with udeb, so it's mainly userspace that needs to be done for this spec [07:15] ok === Fjodor [n=sune@0x55510b65.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _mike [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:20] BenC: are the hardware synthesisers really not PCI? [07:20] I'm confused by the bit in the spec talking about loading modules named in a configuration file at a particular point in the boot [07:20] cause that's BROKEN [07:20] Keybuk: No. Mostly serial and internal ISA [07:20] meh [07:21] ok, so the bus is broken too :p [07:21] Keybuk: what Muso said [07:21] Actually, all are serial and internal ISA. Only one driver is for software speech use, which just spits the output back to userspace. [07:21] by default it will load a software synth which would work in any case where they have a sound card [07:22] right-o [07:22] TheMuso: here's a question, can more than one synth be loaded at a time? [07:22] BenC: No. [07:22] is that enforced, or is it just hoped that no one will do it? :) [07:22] That would require a complete redesign of the synth and proc subsystem. [07:23] It is inforced pretty much. When speakup is running, one can change synths by echoing the synth name to /proc/speakup/synth_name [07:23] Speakup then goes and brings up the requested driver. [07:23] ah, so you can load all the synths and pick one on the fly? [07:23] I'm guessing a few of them need module_params though [07:24] My guess is the authors didn't think multiple synths simultaneously would be really needed. [07:24] No they don't. [07:24] I can't see that it would be needed either, just wondering how it handled it [07:24] They just probe for serial ports or ports that the ISA card would be sitting on. [07:24] It would be nice to get the serial synths one day to use the tty subsystem, so that things such as serial to usb adapters can be used for synths. [07:24] hmm, a full-on "if speakup userspace is loaded, load all synth drivers" type deal would be nice then :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:25] BenC: Not atm. If a synth driver is loaded, speakup starts its keyboard capture. [07:25] If synth_name is set to none, no keyboard capture is performed. [07:26] But you couldn't load all drivers anyway. They bail out if they can't find a synth. [07:26] Except for the softsynth driver. === Gman [n=gman@nwkea-socks-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _mike [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] Anyway, time to pack up for dinner. If you want to talk about it more, catch me at dinner or some time later if you like. === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.106.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:40] mdke: thee community docs link from the help.ubuntu.com/606/ site 404's because it points to 606/community rather than /community [07:40] HiddenWolf : That's my fault, I plan to fix it shortly. [07:41] Znarl: ah, ok, no problem === jinty [n=jinty@83-65-231-90.work.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D96D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman is now known as GmanAFK === AlinuxOS [n=alinux@d83-176-73-112.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === XMuffinFlavoredX [n=brandon@adsl-34-27-155.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:17] Hello. [08:21] Dead chat? === mikearthur [i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:21] how would I go about making a self-compiled kernel image fill the dependency for linux-image? [08:22] I have a suqestion similar. How would I get the restricted modules required for Nvidia drivers with a newer kernel. [08:22] Guys, try #ubuntu-kernel [08:22] Thanks. === XMuffinFlavoredX [n=brandon@adsl-34-27-155.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] cheers === mikearthur [i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === ploum [n=ploum@ubuntu/member/ploum] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@200.228.25.81] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@ACD10BF8.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:05] HiddenWolf: yes. [09:05] mdke: znarl is fixing it, never mind. :) [09:05] HiddenWolf: yes === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] tseng: do you know if anything in Ubuntu is built with -Wl,-O1? [09:08] I'm looking at performance improving stuff... I've never really benched the linker optimization though === el [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:19] oh holy crap [09:19] that doubled my load speed === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === rgould [n=rgould@mail.refractions.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] about 38% load speed gain sweet. [09:35] http://rafb.net/paste/results/Lnhs6k53.html How's that? :) === Keybuk [n=scott@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7246.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] huh. Looks like it's done already === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] sladen: Do you still happen to have those espeak changes you made handy in regards to it trying to find the espeak-data folder? If so, would you mind sending me a diff, or at least a pointer to the file you changed and how you changed it? Thanks. === eln [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] bluefoxicy: we have been using -Wl,01 since warty [09:59] tseng: on just a few things? === bluefoxicy can't find it, he just dpkg-buildpackage'd coreutils... === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:03] tseng: is there an easier way for me to verify this besides building crap and watching text fly past my screen? === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-211-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eli [n=konversa@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lloydinho [n=andreas@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] bluefoxicy: yes. [10:13] yes what hi? [10:14] bluefoxicy: answering your mailing list question [10:14] Keybuk: Is it supposed to happen whet *I* build things? [10:15] because for the life of me I can't make it [10:16] dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot spits out no text containing -Wl,-O or anything for gcrypt or coreutils (checked with grep -e "-Wl,-O") [10:17] bluefoxicy: depends, do you have gcc-opt installed? [10:17] I've also grepped /usr/lib and /usr/bin for the string (looking for wrappers) [10:17] oh [10:17] I need a separate package for that? [10:18] http://librarian.launchpad.net/2796588/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-i386.nautilus_2.14.1-0ubuntu9_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [10:18] e.g. [10:18] LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed" [10:18] (grep it) [10:19] got it [10:19] nautilus-2.14.1/debian/rules:13:DEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT_ENV += LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed" [10:19] Keybuk: seems to be per-package. [10:20] could be [10:20] most of the gnome ones, at leat [10:20] (I picked that one at random) === bluefoxicy wonders if there's even a mechanism to enable an optimization system-wide [10:21] modify the gcc defaults? [10:21] anyone seen lifeless? [10:21] I meant for ubuntu's build system o_o [10:21] Keybuk: although if you WANT to go spec hacking :) [10:21] msw: probably playing mao [10:21] ah [10:22] bluefoxicy: I don't especially [10:22] spec hacking is evil [10:22] specs are evil === Keybuk is trying his evil "make openoffice start faster" hack [10:22] Keybuk: oh? [10:23] Keybuk: the "link it all together" hack? [10:23] msw: worse :p [10:26] Keybuk: i think -Wl,-O1 is probably in ENV on the buildd's [10:27] Keybuk: i would bet on it, actually === ChipX86 [n=chipx86@galago/ChipX86] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] tseng: it used to be in our insane gcc wrapper scripts [10:27] it probably still is === bluefoxicy looks for other nice things then. [10:30] tseng: help me beat -Bdirect into Drepper's skull :> (no not really, I don't understand it enough to try yet...) [10:31] Drepper is a genius [10:31] you are not. [10:31] oh how would you know. [10:31] because I've known you for 4 years [10:32] heh [10:32] Ask a silly question [10:33] tseng: http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-10/msg00436.html http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114008 [10:34] tseng: Can't be used in Ubuntu, at all. Not part of glibc or binutils mainline, probably at this point fading away due to lack of maintainer interest since upstream is hard up for "prelink is better than this" [10:34] I maintain that upstream might actually know something that you don't [10:34] I am not motivated atm to prove it to you [10:35] I'm rather certain they do, but they're not interested in telling anyone what that something may be. On the other hand, a few other known geniuses like -Bdirect as well. [10:36] (other i.e. other than drepper; you're indeed right, I don't exactly have a genius star nailed above my door ;) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:38] but it doesn't matter, like I said. Upstream will never go for it, it's ill maintained now, it had implementation bugs that I don't know if they ever got fixed, and interest in it is dead. Time to search for other things that might do nicely. === Keybuk stares at doko === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:39] openoffice.org build-deps THE ENTIRE FUCKING ARCHIVE [10:39] XD [10:39] Keybuk: no space left on device? [10:41] I had to download a FUCKING GIGABYTE into a chroot just to build it! [10:41] <_ion> Build-Depends: * [10:41] <_ion> A wildcard! :-) [10:42] Keybuk: be grateful it doesn't build-dep on mono .. yet :) [10:44] fabbione: ugh [10:44] fabbione: isn't python, java and whatever else it uses enough already? [10:44] HiddenWolf: well OOo has mono bindings but we can't enable them === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:45] fabbione: just curious, has the beagle-by-default proposal been discussed yet? [10:45] HiddenWolf: which beagle-by-default proposal? [10:45] HiddenWolf: no idea. i am not in Paris === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk can't see it in the spec list [10:46] or is this a "forums proposal" ? [10:46] Keybuk: well, the "we want beagle installed" proposals that zoom around the wiki [10:46] (like "forums bugs" ... the ones everyone knows about but nobody has actually reported!) === ogry [n=ogra@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf looks again [10:46] HiddenWolf: if it's not tracked in LP it will never be discussed and the deadline for paris was 10 days ago or more [10:46] so no [10:47] there is no chance it will be [10:47] Launchpad doesn't (yet) do ESP [10:47] *chuckle* [10:47] you can't think hard about what you want, and have it automatically registered [10:47] Keybuk: not yet? tsk.. lp slackers.. === doko [n=doko@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:48] fabbione: it would be nice, but it pales in comparison to the soul-crushing pain of other things [10:48] DO NOT DISTRACT THE SOYUZ TWINS [10:48] KaiL: agreed [10:48] Keybuk: fabbione, never mind me. :) [10:49] HiddenWolf: we forgive you [10:49] fabbione: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/beagle-integration <- like this, btw. :) [10:50] Priority: Low. <- unliely to be even discussed [10:50] hm. :) [10:51] I'm just a bit emotionally averse to .dll's and .exe's, don't mind me again. :) [10:51] HiddenWolf: nobody proposed it for this meeting [10:52] Keybuk: ah, ok === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eli is now known as el === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _mike [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SeanTater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [i=winkle@suiko.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] for those interested, I've accumulated about three bugs in about 10 minutes (three different people) === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-60-117.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] never heard of it, told to report http://rafb.net/paste/results/u5d5hM97.html [11:21] where might I find a useful log for arts, it's had two memory leaks lately.. === Gadi [n=romm@static-71-249-255-248.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] So, does anyone have an (edu)buntu server going with RAID5, an adaptec 2005S RAID controller, and dapper? 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