[05:27] <theCore> LaserJock: hi
[08:57] <mdke> morning
[08:57] <jsgotangco> good morning
[09:04] <Madpilot> hi
[09:24] <LaserJock> hi mdke, jsgotangco, Madpilot 
[09:24] <Madpilot> hi LaserJock 
[09:24] <jsgotangco> hey! you surved last night?
[09:24] <jsgotangco> s/surved/survived
[09:24] <LaserJock> uggh
[09:25] <LaserJock> maybe
[09:25] <Madpilot> pub crawling in Paris?
[09:25] <jsgotangco> no
[09:25] <jsgotangco> 52 card mao
[09:25] <jsgotangco> or was it 53?
[09:26] <LaserJock> heh
[09:26] <LaserJock> you sure did
[09:26] <LaserJock> I just never could tell when it was my turn
[09:26] <jsgotangco> i had like a quarter of the deck hehe
[09:26] <Madpilot> Mao is the card game with no rules, correct?
[09:27] <jsgotangco> there are rules but you just don't know what rule is in effect during gameplay
[09:27] <Madpilot> ah yes. Corey tried to explain it to me when he got back from Mataro...
[09:28] <jsgotangco> so even if you know the basic rules you can still get creamed
[09:32] <LaserJock> and I didn't even get the basic ones
[11:07] <LaserJock> mdke: ping?
[11:07] <mdke> LaserJock: hi
[11:08] <LaserJock> mdke: hi, I was just trying to look at my email while I have a lull in the action
[11:09] <LaserJock> I noticed the email about the Debugging wiki page
[11:09] <mdke> yep
[11:09] <LaserJock> I wonder if the BugSquad should take care of that stuff
[11:10] <mdke> well, I kinda feel bad that we were responsible for moving the pages when we shouldn't have
[11:10] <mdke> i might take a look at it later
[11:11] <LaserJock> well, we moved only stuff marked as CatDoc right?
[11:11] <mdke> yes
[11:12] <LaserJock> so at least it was an honest mistake ;-)
[11:12] <LaserJock> do you want me to talk to sfllaw about any of it? I have a BOF next with him
[11:13] <LaserJock> I'm interested in how much we want to put in offical documentation
[11:13] <LaserJock> or leave to BugSquaders to use the wiki.u.c wiki
[11:13] <LaserJock> or ...
[11:15] <mdke> yes, that would be a good thing to talk about
[12:00] <rob> does the flash plugin instructions on RestrictedFormats work for anyone else?
[12:00] <rob> doesn't work for me
[12:02] <mdke> rob: yes
[12:03] <rob> thats odd then, it just says install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[12:03] <rob> but I have that installed, but firefox and konqueror won't pick it up
[12:04] <rob> the sudo command listed doesn't work either (no such files), though I have the default Ubuntu Firefox installed in any case
[12:05] <mdke> try doing "sudo update-flashplugin"
[12:05] <mdke> you need an internet connection
[12:06] <jsgotangco> hey
[12:06] <rob> hi jsgotangco 
[12:06] <jsgotangco> bonjour rob
[12:06] <rob> I'm so going to have to make it to one of those one day
[12:07] <jsgotangco> sprints?
[12:07] <rob> yeah, anything really, just to meet people
[12:07] <jsgotangco> yeah its fun
[12:08] <jsgotangco> im sitting beside klaus knopper and his wife at the moment jsut talking stuff
[12:09] <rob> mdke, does sudo update-flashplugin take a while? it just appears to be sitting there doing not much
[12:09] <mdke> rob: it downloads the plugin from the internet, (which is what installing that package does too, unless you say "no" on installing) so it depends on your connection
[12:10] <rob> does it display progress at all?
[12:11] <jsgotangco> rob: yeah it can get really interesting
[12:11] <mdke> no
[12:12] <rob> hmm, I'll leave it go then, might pay adding that to the wiki I guess
[12:19] <rob> ok added
[01:58] <can3p> Hello. I want to ask about latest UWN issue(#3). The feature of the week was devhelp. It was said that there is a lot of additional information in devhelp format. I've searched a lot, but there is no documentation in devhelp format in dapper repos. Where can I get additional packages with documenatation in devhelp format. I need docs for GTK+
[02:06] <dsas> can3p: Some of the *-doc packages will install their selves to devhelp such at python-gtk2-doc
[02:10] <can3p> what about docs for C?
[02:10] <can3p> a mean gtk+ and C
[02:10] <can3p> I mean gtk+ and C
[02:12] <dsas> can3p: you probably want to try libgtk2.0-doc in that case
[02:22] <LaserJock> can3p: did you get a reply?
[02:22] <LaserJock> to your email?
[02:22] <LaserJock> I thought I sent one
[02:26] <can3p> dsas: thanks a lot, it works. I didn't install it, it's said in description, that it's only installed in /usr/share/doc/libgtk2.0-doc/. Again, thanks.
[02:26] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock> ping and you back from paris?
[02:30] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: no, I'll be back Saturday
[05:35] <Laser_away> mdke: ping?
[06:18] <mdke> LaserJock: hmm?
[06:41] <LaserJock> mdke: oh nice, you're here
[06:42] <LaserJock> oh, maybe not
[06:42] <LaserJock> stupid summit ;-)
[06:42] <LaserJock> mdke: we had a guy who wants to translate the Edubuntu School Advocacy doc into French
[06:43] <LaserJock> mdke: I created a .pot with xml2po -e but I'm not sure if that is the way you've been doing it
[06:45] <mdke> LaserJock: yes, that's right.
[06:45] <LaserJock> ok, so how do you turn it back
[06:46] <mdke> LaserJock: same again: xml2po -e
[06:46] <LaserJock> ok
[06:47] <LaserJock> and how is upload handled on Rosetta, who can do that?
[06:48] <mdke> whoever has permission for the product
[06:48] <LaserJock> ok
[06:49] <LaserJock> and are we thinking of ways to translate the wiki at all?
[06:52] <mdke> 1.Laserjock: we can translate wiki articles that we export to docbook, if we do that. But there is no reasonable way of translating wiki pages on-the-fly using that toolchain.
[06:52] <mdke> damn numbers
[06:53] <LaserJock> hmm
[06:54] <LaserJock> this guy I was talking with mentioned po4a
[06:55] <LaserJock> http://po4a.alioth.debian.org/
[06:58] <LaserJock> mdke: I'm not sure if it would help us but I thought I should mention it
[06:59] <mdke> I'm not mad keen on changing the current toolchain, but we can look at it I guess
[07:00] <LaserJock> it would be for the wiki
[07:01] <mdke> 1.right, but I think the wiki->docbook tools are going in the right direction for that
[07:01] <mdke> I dont think its so hard to translate a wiki page manually, anyway
[07:02] <LaserJock> k, just thought I'd mention it
[07:02] <LaserJock> so it looks to me like any doc team LP member can upload .pots . Is that right?
[07:04] <mdke> to the ubuntu-doc product, yes
[07:08] <LaserJock> k
[07:08] <LaserJock> anyway, it doesn't matter right now
[07:08] <LaserJock> everybody just seems very interested in translation
[07:11] <mdke> cool
[09:52] <jenda> mdke: ping?
[09:58] <mgalvin> mdke: great interview on lug, now i have a reason to drop your name in UWN :)
[10:02] <jsgotangco> hmmmm
[10:03] <mgalvin> mmmmmh
[11:20] <mdke> jenda: if you're still around?
[11:20] <jenda> yep
[11:20] <jenda> I was wondering why ubuntu.com
[11:21] <jenda> has Ubuntu linux in the title when it has been repeatedly stressed that the name is "Ubuntu"
[11:21] <jenda> not "Ubuntu Linux"
[11:21] <jsgotangco> -)
[11:21] <jsgotangco> meh
[11:21] <mdke> I think the reason is that it helps get hits from search engines
[11:22] <mdke> people often search for "ubuntu linux"
[11:23] <jenda> OK
[11:23] <jenda> do they search by title? (the engines)
[11:24] <mdke> I mean, people put "ubuntu linux" into the search box.
[11:24] <mdke> search engines index titles yeah
[11:25] <jsgotangco> its not even midnight!
[11:25] <jenda> true... :)
[11:26] <jenda> don't forget that mdke is a little further East :)
[11:28] <jsgotangco> hmm its only 10:28 in london
[11:28] <jsgotangco> so paris is 1 hour ahead
[11:29] <jenda> that was a pun, jsgotangco ;)
[11:29] <jenda> notice the capital E
[11:29] <jenda> :)
[11:29] <jsgotangco> ahh
[11:30] <jenda> but I love puns.
[11:32] <jsgotangco> ahh time flies so fast the summit ends tomorrow
[11:34] <jenda> that means the CC meeting could be coming soon :)
[11:38] <jsgotangco> coming soon?
[11:38] <jsgotangco> like next week?