[09:40] <bintut> any fai users here?
[09:42] <bintut> I'm planning to make use of my laptop running Gentoo Linux as my FAI install server and the distribution to be installed to the fresh computers through FAI will either be Ubuntu Dapper or Debian Sarge. Would it be possible and practical?  As much as possible, I don't want to format my system and install either Ubuntu Dapper or Debian Sarge just to make it as a FAI install server.
[09:48] <A-Kaser> nop
[09:51] <bintut> nop?
[09:56] <A-Kaser> never used
[09:56] <A-Kaser> just used PXE install
[09:58] <bintut> ah..
[11:41] <TrioTorus> I'm trying to get webdav to work, would anybody care for a look at my apache config?
[11:41] <TrioTorus> It's here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16260
[11:41] <TrioTorus> I'm trying to get a group member read acces, but a user read and write acces
[11:42] <TrioTorus> but 'Connect to Server' seems to skip "Password for read acces" realm
[11:59] <TrioTorus> hmm okay, so changing owner and group to www-data seems to work, but what if I want to share content that is not www-data? Do I have to chown manually all of it?
[12:12] <neuralis> TrioTorus: last i heard, apache+webdav just plain didn't support per-user authentication
[01:14] <TrioTorus> neuralis, well, it seems to be sucky to say the least.
[01:15] <TrioTorus> I'm quite disappointed in setting up apache the first time round. Is there any gui config tool that is good out there? I heared webmin doesn't support ubuntu any longer.
[01:16] <A-Kaser> :)
[01:19] <TrioTorus> ?
[01:20] <A-Kaser> apache2-utils can help you
[01:20] <A-Kaser> but it's not a frontend
[01:20] <A-Kaser> you have some other web frontend
[01:21] <A-Kaser> as ispconfig
[01:21] <A-Kaser> but apache2 is very simple now
[01:21] <A-Kaser> all the files are splitted
[01:24] <TrioTorus> yes, I quite like the way it is represented now, but still, I find the permissions hard to get right. Mainly because there seem to be many example config files on the web, but they all differ
[01:24] <TrioTorus> but I'll check out your pointers.
[01:25] <A-Kaser> many example ?
[01:25] <TrioTorus> I mean scattered out on the web
[01:25] <A-Kaser> what are you doing with  your apache ? or will do ?
[01:26] <edneymatias> hello all!
[01:26] <TrioTorus> I'm just trying to get webdav working for clients I have to deliver image sequences to.
[01:26] <TrioTorus> I should be able to easily allow them upload as well.
[01:26] <A-Kaser> oh yes
[01:26] <TrioTorus> Recenlty I read about zope
[01:26] <A-Kaser> a2enmod dav
[01:27] <TrioTorus> A-Kaser, yeah, I followed this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119228&highlight=webdav
[01:28] <TrioTorus> first thing was: <Location> didn't work for me because my files are actually in the document tree
[01:28] <TrioTorus> (or at least I think that's the reason)
[01:28] <TrioTorus> so I changed to <Directory> which worked.
[01:28] <A-Kaser>         <Directory /home/imagenbib/www/>
[01:28] <A-Kaser>         AddDefaultCharset Off
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                 Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI Includes
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                 AllowOverride AuthConfig
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                 <Limit POST GET>
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                         Order allow,deny
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                         Allow from all
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                 </Limit>
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                 <Limit PUT DELETE PATCH PROPPATCH MKCOL COPY MOVE LOCK UNLOCK>
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                         Order deny,allow
[01:28] <A-Kaser>                         Deny from all
[01:29] <A-Kaser>                 </Limit>
[01:29] <A-Kaser>         </Directory>
[01:29] <A-Kaser> I have this to disable webdav
[01:29] <A-Kaser> so replace Deny from all to Allow from all :)
[01:29] <fabbione> A-Kaser: please don't flood the channel and use pastebin
[01:29] <A-Kaser> Directory can be changed without problem it's just a virtualhost configuration
[01:29] <A-Kaser> sorrry fabbione
[01:29] <A-Kaser> pastebin is too too too slow from Belgium
[01:30] <A-Kaser> si I miss to you use it
[01:30] <TrioTorus> A-Kaser, u in Belgium?
[01:30] <A-Kaser> yes
[01:30] <A-Kaser> it's bad ?
[01:30] <TrioTorus> ha, me too
[01:30] <A-Kaser> :) lol
[01:30] <TrioTorus> I'm in Gent
[01:30] <A-Kaser> Mons / Bergen
[01:30] <TrioTorus> yup
[01:30] <TrioTorus> I use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if you care
[01:31] <A-Kaser> oh yes better :)
[01:31] <A-Kaser> yesterday pastebin make 2 - 3 mins ...
[01:32] <TrioTorus> I'm also very confused as to why all of the stuff in my document tree has to belong to group www-data
[01:33] <A-Kaser> because apache may be able to write on the documents
[01:33] <TrioTorus> that group isn't my default gid, so everytime I want to make something visible on my webserver, I have to change permissions
[01:33] <TrioTorus> is there more elegant way?
[01:34] <A-Kaser> hum
[01:34] <A-Kaser> change your default umask
[01:34] <A-Kaser> and add your user to the www-data group
[01:34] <A-Kaser> and when you make a file user this group
[01:35] <gapz> hello
[01:35] <A-Kaser> so all your files will be used with the umask ( 775 )
[01:35] <TrioTorus> A-Kaser, I have a group urga, which is my company name, and collegues need to acces these files, so my default group has to stay urga
[01:36] <A-Kaser> you can have more than one group
[01:36] <TrioTorus> so, although I can add myself to the www-data group, I still have to change permissions when I want to make stuff visible for web surfers.
[01:43] <spike> ghent?
[01:43] <spike> who's in Ghent?
[01:43] <TrioTorus> spike, I am
[01:43] <spike> cool
[01:43] <spike> something OT :)
[01:43] <spike> there should be a huge music festival on the river at some point this summer, have you any idea about it?
[01:45] <TrioTorus> yes, you probably mean 'Gentse Feesten'
[01:46] <spike> oh, bollocks, 15-24 :(
[01:46] <TrioTorus> spike, yup
[01:46] <TrioTorus> spike, where r u based?
[01:46] <TrioTorus> It's worth coming down for it.
[01:48] <spike> yeah, I was sure it was, I met this guy from ghent last summer that told me amazing things about it
[01:49] <spike> but thought it was in Aug, I'm busy those days in Jul :(
[01:50] <spike> TrioTorus: .uk
[01:52] <TrioTorus> It's supposed to be the biggest folk party in Europe
[01:53] <TrioTorus> (I used to live .uk, only for 3 years or so, London)
[01:55] <spike> damn, new job is great but 10 days holidays sux :(
[01:56] <spike> I could be there weekend 15th-16th but those days I'm gonna see bob dylan and ben harper.. already bought the tickets and everything
[01:58] <TrioTorus> hey, I saw Ben Harper in Brixton Academy 2 years back
[01:58] <TrioTorus> amazing
[02:00] <spike> TrioTorus: actually it's kinda weird the festival ends on the 24th.. it's a sat...
[02:00] <spike> it if it last to sunday I might come over that weekend...
[02:01] <TrioTorus> 24th is a monday
[02:01] <TrioTorus> it always ends on a monday, it's called the day-when-wallets-are-empty
[02:02] <spike> uh, oops, I was looking at jun on the calendar :)
[02:02] <spike> lovely, I'll see if I manage to find decent flight tickets for that weekend
[02:03] <spike> TrioTorus: any hint about connections? I guess you still fly to bruxelles then get there by train, eh?
[02:03] <TrioTorus> spike, got any webpage where I can get to know you a bit better? I'm pretty new around here, would be cool to work myself in a bit.
[02:03] <TrioTorus> spike, yes, Brussels is only 40 minutes away from Ghent by train.
[02:04] <spike> a bit better about what? ubuntu-server? stuff available in on the wiki, there's a ServerFAQ + all the specs
[02:04] <spike> s/in on/is on/
[02:10] <TrioTorus> spike, if you're in London your best bet is to take Eurostar
[04:42] <TrioTorus> Is there a command to disconnect all authenticated users from apache?
[04:43] <TrioTorus> nautilus' 'Connect to server' seems to remember connections authenticated sessions.
[04:46] <A-Kaser> lol
[04:46] <A-Kaser> I don't think
[04:54] <lionelp> TrioTorus: you mean with a basic authentication ?
[04:54] <TrioTorus> lionelp, Hi, yes, basic authentication
[04:54] <lionelp> so, there is no memory on the Apache side
[04:54] <lionelp> the client resend the authentication on each request
[04:54] <TrioTorus> I'm connecting to a webdav share
[04:54] <lionelp> the memory is on the client
[04:55] <TrioTorus> probably yes. Any way to reset it?
[04:55] <TrioTorus> it's actually gnome-vfs that seems to remember how it was authenticated before.
[04:57] <TrioTorus> when I enter 'connect to server' and fill in the dialog with the same entries as before, it doesn't come up with the authentication dialog box, even though I did a 'umount volume' right before.
[04:58] <TrioTorus> This might be wanted behaviour and it could time out, but can I disable it?
[04:59] <lionelp> The way te reset is linked to the client
[05:02] <TrioTorus> lionelp, yes, so any way to reset the gnome 'connect to server' thingy?
[05:03] <lionelp> I do not know, I never used it with webdav (nor http)
[05:03] <TrioTorus> lionelp, np
[05:13] <amee2k> hi all
[05:14] <amee2k> i just installed phpmyadmin-2.8.0.3-debian-1 from the repo. why isn't it possible to execute queries from files?
[05:15] <A-Kaser> ?
[05:17] <amee2k> i'll make a screenshot...
[05:22] <amee2k> http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sshot1qn.png
[05:28] <A-Kaser> you have "import"
[05:28] <A-Kaser> it's not debian
[05:28] <A-Kaser> it's the news phpmyuadmin release :)
[05:28] <amee2k> aic
[05:29] <amee2k> btw the older version was directly from their project page, it is just older
[05:29] <amee2k> ;)
[05:40] <Detox> oh boy this is not going well
[05:40] <Detox> am setting up ubuntu server 6.06 and cannopt find saslauthd file
[05:41] <lionelp> Detox: what do you mean by "sasalauthd file" ? You mean package ?
[05:41] <Detox> following the tutorial ,,, everything wenk ok despite typos,,, but now am suppost to ecit /etc/default/saslauthd
[05:42] <Detox> and it is not there
[05:42] <lionelp> Which tutorial are you refering to ?
[05:42] <Detox>  Now we have to edit /etc/default/saslauthd  in order to activate saslauthd. Remove #  in front of START=yes  and add the line PARAMS="-m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r":
[05:42] <Detox> vi /etc/default/saslauthd
[05:42] <Detox> the perfect setup ...
[05:43] <Detox> on howtoforge
[05:43] <lionelp> Yep, i understood
[05:43] <Detox> ok,,,
[05:43] <lionelp> did you install sasl2-bin package ?
[05:43] <Detox> where is it hiding?
[05:43] <Detox> no
[05:44] <Detox> apt that?
[05:44] <lionelp> hum... I think this is a good option (at least because /etc/default/saslauthd and the saslauthd daemon are in this package)
[05:44] <lionelp> Detox: yes
[05:44] <Detox> ok file is exactly as written>> sas12-bin
[05:45] <lionelp> it is a L not a 1
[05:45] <lionelp> yes, it is exactly as written
[05:45] <Detox> ok doing now .....
[05:46] <Detox> now ,,,,, am I going to need to restart the sequesnce of configuring or start where i am?
[05:46] <Detox> would you like to see the page I am at in the isntall?
[05:46] <Detox> http://howtoforge.com/book/print/1332
[05:47] <lionelp> you can go on with the edition of /etc/default/saslauthd
[05:47] <Detox> is installed
[05:47] <Detox> ok
[05:54] <Detox> thanks that did the trick
[06:00] <jeldert> I just installed OpenSSH-server
[06:01] <jeldert> can i set PermitRootLogin to No? And still login with my "normal" account?
[06:01] <ajmitch> certainly
[06:01] <Detox> I am now installing courier pop3 ,, it wants to know if I will be using ISPConfig... do I wnt to do this?
[06:01] <jeldert> ok, because Ubuntu doesn't have a root account enabled
[06:02] <jeldert> why is it on by default then?
[06:02] <ajmitch> I don't know why it's on, really
[06:04] <A-Kaser> jeldert, because most of people enable it :-)
[06:04] <A-Kaser> Detox, non
[06:04] <A-Kaser> ISPConfig is webbases interface to manage some services as email
[06:05] <Detox> oops I messed up....
[06:05] <Detox> it asked me if I wanted web-based admin and I said yes
[06:06] <Detox> will that be a prob?
[06:06] <A-Kaser> no
[06:06] <Detox> ok
[06:06] <Detox> then I wil go on to th next section
[06:10] <Detox> wow this takes a long time doing all by hand....
[06:10] <Detox> once I get it all on ,,, wont I still need to have a browser?
[06:10] <Detox> and a window manager for ease of use?
[06:11] <A-Kaser> hum
[06:11] <A-Kaser> don't know
[06:11] <Detox> I dont mind doing all by comamnd line , but once I put a site on it .. how will I be able to view?
[06:12] <A-Kaser> are you installing courrier pop3 ?
[06:12] <Detox> yes did
[06:12] <Detox> am getting apache2 now
[06:12] <Detox> then php5
[06:13] <A-Kaser> I'm not sure if courrier have a webbased interface :)
[06:13] <Detox> ok , well when I get that far ,, we can tackle it
[06:13] <Detox> for now ,, jhsut knowing the isntructions are ok will  help a lot
[06:14] <Detox> as far as email server text will be ok
[06:20] <Detox> moved on to php5 apt-get ,, said php5-pear is unknown or part of something else .. deleted taht part ans is now geting and isntalling all the rest
[07:40] <Detox> hello?
[07:41] <Detox> have ubuntu server installed,,,, now can I isntall a WM without goovering it up?
[07:41] <Detox> just to make it easier on me?
[07:42] <jeldert> WM?
[07:42] <Detox> gnome , fluxbox, etc
[07:44] <spike> why didnt you install the desktop version then?
[07:45] <spike> a window manager on a sever is uhm, just wrong
[07:46] <Detox> was following isntructions on  how to isntall ubuntu server 6.06
[07:46] <spike> O_O
[07:46] <Detox> figured it would have at least gnome on it
[07:46] <spike> and the instructions tell you to install a window manager?
[07:47] <Detox> no
[07:47] <Detox> jsut the server functions
[07:47] <spike> oh, tnx, I ws gonna collapse
[07:47] <Detox> this is a new thing for me
[07:47] <Detox> and following docs as written
[07:47] <Detox> when I put free bsd on a couple of months ago ,, it had gnome so i figured ubuntu would aslo
[07:48] <spike> Detox: in fact ubuntu provides gnome by default. this is ubuntu-server, doesnt that ring a bell?
[07:48] <nictuku> :-)
[07:48] <Detox> when i typed gnome at  term nothing happened
[07:49] <Detox> and yes I am VERY new
[07:49] <Detox> so please be gentle
[07:49] <Zambezi> Detox, startgnome?
[07:49] <Detox> ok
[07:49] <Detox> brb
[07:50] <Detox> command not found
[07:50] <Zambezi> Detox, Try startx too if it doesn't work. I think it will work with one of them.
[07:50] <Detox> nope
[07:51] <Zambezi> Detox, Is xclient-system-core installed and xserver-xorg?
[07:51] <spike> Detox: if you are very new install ubuntu, NOT ubuntu-server
[07:51] <Detox> doubt it,,, only files lsited in turorial and i dont remenber those
[07:51] <spike> it's easy
[07:52] <Detox> ok so apt-get those 2 then?
[07:52] <spike> ubuntu-server is for servers, and no WM is of course installed by default
[07:52] <Zambezi> Detox, Try too install the packages I mentioned.
[07:52] <Detox> k
[07:53] <Zambezi> Detox, You can install ubuntu-desktop and you'll get a complete desktop.
[07:53] <Detox> xclietn not found with apt
[07:53] <Detox> ok apt-get install ubuntu-desktop right?
[07:53] <Zambezi> Detox, Yes.
[07:54] <Detox> me thinks this will take a bit
[07:54] <Zambezi> Detox, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. It'll take a little time.
[07:54] <Detox> is working now
[07:55] <Zambezi> Detox, And one thing. If you're new a Linux, you got to be patient. Linux is diffrent compare too Windows.
[07:55] <A-Kaser> h h:)
[07:56] <spike> Zambezi: to me the word "server" compared to "desktop" isnt really about linux and windows...
[07:56] <Detox> I was going to build a server on debian, but the google I did recommended ubuntu server
[07:56] <Detox> oh well learning is fun
[07:57] <Detox> I had a good working debian box
[07:57] <Detox> but I dl'd ubuntu server cause the google said so
[07:57] <Detox> instead of jsut doing everything on my exixting debian box
[07:57] <A-Kaser> why not
[07:58] <Zambezi> When I install Dapper serverinstall I can't install cryptsetup-luks from http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/debian/. Anyone know why? I have Breezy for now, but I would like to have Dapper.
[07:58] <Detox> I have used linux for about a year now ,, burt nver built a server
[07:59] <Detox> thought it would be fun
[08:00] <Detox> two days now into this project
[08:00] <Detox> hope this apt-get ubuntu-desktop will not mess up alll the wrok i did to build the server
[08:00] <A-Kaser> Zambezi, what is the error ?
[08:02] <Zambezi> A-Kaser, Oh, I don't remember. It something that the packages is damage.
[08:12] <Detox> oh boy ,,, this will rally take a while ,,, my bleeding edge sprint DSL ,,,, almost as good as dial-up
[08:12] <Detox> 10% complete  yahoooo
[08:28] <jeldert> I'm configuring openssh-server but I want only local IP's to be able to connect. I've added the option "ListenAddress 192.168.1.10", but now I cannot connect to it
[08:49] <jeldert> nevermind. I thought it was which host where allowed to connect to it, but it is what IP address the server uses