[12:00] <Low_E> thx QRZ!
[12:00] <QRZ> Low_E:  welcome
[12:00] <Warbo> gavagai: You finger users to sort of check each other out
[12:00] <Flippy209> I'd rather not edit the page, as I didn't even know what the kill gnome or xorg commands were
[12:00] <gavagai> lol
[12:00] <el-nino> what can i use to unrar files , i nice all in one gui would do
[12:00] <green_earz> tim:  what is like with a livecd just to check if there a differents
[12:01] <Warbo> Flippy209: Erm I think wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto (I will check in Epiphany now)
[12:01] <soccio> Hi, everybody
[12:01] <soccio> Is there anybody who could help me about downgrading a package?
[12:01] <tim> green_earz: i want to check that, but i dont have a live CD
[12:01] <udo> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16221
[12:01] <BIAF> Warbo : what im i ment to do with gksudo, says maiising command run when i run in a term, I just want to drag n drop a folder into the main apache www via gui
[12:01] <gavagai> el-nino, no idea about a GUI, but in terminal just "unrar"
[12:01] <Flippy209> anybody know the gfx command to check to see of GL rendering is working?
[12:02] <Flippy209> I had the site at work, now I can't find it :\
[12:02] <ardchoille> Flippy209: glxinfo | grep render
[12:02] <Warbo> Flippy209: "glxinfo | grep "direct rendering""
[12:02] <crimsun> udo: what precise command did you type in?
[12:02] <green_earz> Low_E: with useradd you have more control over the process
[12:02] <Flippy209> great thx
[12:02] <Flippy209> see, I had gfx not glx lol
[12:02] <gi2k15> how can I manually mount a DVD?
[12:02] <udo> crimsun amixer get 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
[12:03] <^hal> mount /dev/dvd /media/dvd
[12:03] <crimsun> udo: and how did you set it?
[12:03] <Warbo> BIAF: Nautilus is the GNOME file manager, so "gksudo nautilus" will launch it with super user priviledges (gksudo needs to be followed by a command)
[12:03] <Flippy209> direct rendering = no, that's the problem I came with last night warbo
[12:03] <BIAF> gksudo filebrowser? or something
[12:03] <BIAF> i see
[12:03] <Low_E> QRZ, once these users added, how can i give some of them adminrights?
[12:03] <udo> crimsun amixer get 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
[12:03] <Warbo> Flippy209: What does "lsmod | grep "radeon"" give?
[12:04] <Flippy209> one sec
[12:04] <crimsun> udo: type exactly this: ``amixer set "IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA" 0''
[12:04] <gi2k15> hal, k, thx
[12:04] <Low_E> is there a certain group they have to be added (administrator or root?) and how to do this?
[12:04] <Flippy209> 2 lines, want me to pastebin, or is IRC fine?
[12:04] <green_earz> tim:  you could wget the damm small linux cd http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/   to check out a livecd
[12:04] <Warbo> Flippy209: 2 lines should be OK
[12:04] <Flippy209> radeon                116000  1
[12:04] <Flippy209> drm                    73236  2 radeon
[12:04] <Low_E> do i have to change or add lines in /etc/groups ... (found something about this in manpages?
[12:05] <Warbo> Flippy209: OK, well that is the right driver, so it is loaded
[12:05] <Flippy209> I even tried using your tweaks
[12:05] <udo> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16222
[12:05] <Low_E> and why is root disabled?
[12:05] <Flippy209> the AGP fast write 4x is that the speed of the AGP buss?
[12:05] <Flippy209> bus*
[12:05] <Warbo> Flippy209: I didn't try it without to be honest
[12:06] <crimsun> udo: now try: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[12:06] <ardchoille> Low_E: security reasons. You should be able to do most anything with sudo.
[12:06] <Flippy209> yeah the tweaks didn't work really, I did have a question though, I had an extra line in there that you didn't I have no clue what it is
[12:06] <QRZ> Low_E:  Give the users sudo access.
[12:06] <Flippy209> let me get it for you
[12:06] <Warbo> Flippy209: FastWrite is a feature, I assume that it makes it go quicker. The AGP speed getting set to 4 is because the default is set to 1 to be more reliable
[12:06] <tim> green_earz: cool i will try that. thanks for your help. will download now and try in the morning!
[12:06] <green_earz> np
[12:06] <green_earz> and all the best
[12:06] <udo> crimsun nothing
[12:07] <Flippy209> Warbo:  are you playing any DX9 games on your setup?
[12:07] <udo> crimsun i dont hear any sound
[12:07] <crimsun> udo: now: ``amixer set "External Amplifier" off''
[12:07] <Warbo> Flippy209: no, but I have been using OpenGL stuff and it works well
[12:07] <hbweb500> Is there a way to change the gnome menu icon from the ubuntu logo to something else?
[12:08] <fernando_> Crimsun, sorry I am stupid with IRC. Couls you guess something from dmesg?
[12:08] <Flippy209> WoW works under cedega, but is slightly choppy that's why I suspected 3d issues
[12:08] <Zephod|brb> lo
[12:08] <crimsun> hbweb500: yes, change distributor-logo
[12:08] <ardchoille> hbweb500: yes, there are a few methods to do that on the ubuntuforums
[12:08] <udo> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16223
[12:08] <MystaMax> inside gnome, I can't unmount the drives which are listed on my desktop (sda2 and some others) how do I set it up so that I cant unmount and mount drives w/o being ROOT?
[12:08] <Zephod|brb> anyone willing to hold a noob's hand for a sencond?
[12:08] <crimsun> hbweb500: see the ubuntu-artwork package
[12:08] <hbweb500> ok, thx, will do
[12:08] <Warbo> Flippy209: "proper" 3D stuff, like 3D models and things, work really well, but blurring and transparency and things like that tend to go slow compared to my Nvidia with half as much RAM (but I don't know whether this is the card or the driver's fault)
[12:08] <paladinhugo> hello
[12:08] <Low_E> QRZ, can I bother you again and ask how I do that: giving sudo access?
[12:09] <paladinhugo> how can I change the depth of my monitor?
[12:09] <ardchoille> Zephod: what's up?
[12:09] <crimsun> udo: now try playing music
[12:09] <QRZ> Low_E:  In Breezy, it was as simple as making the user part of the adm group.  Not sure if it's the same for Dapper.  However, you can also simply add the user to the /etc/sudoers file with visudo.
[12:09] <Zephod> ardchoille cant work out how to config eth0
[12:09] <Flippy209> Warbo have you seen http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide at all?
[12:09] <green_earz> Zephod|brb: whats the problem
[12:09] <Low_E> visudo?
[12:09] <crimsun> fernando_: I have to board a plan in 5 minutes, sorry, won't be able to check
[12:10] <Zephod> was using a wireless network card that was nicely preconfigured, but now trying to set up eth0 and not having any joy
[12:10] <crimsun> plane^
[12:10] <udo> crimsun nothing
[12:10] <udo> crimsun i dont hear any sound
[12:10] <fernando_> Thanks, Have a nice flight!
[12:10] <crimsun> udo: are you using the front or rear speaker jacks?
[12:10] <paladinhugo> can anyone help me?
[12:10] <udo> crimsun i think the problem is the irq
[12:10] <Flippy209> the thing I'm wondering about is the fglrxinfo return
[12:10] <Flippy209> for openGL renderer string should that be radeon since we changed the drivers?
[12:10] <crimsun> udo: then boot with "noapic" or "pci=noacpi"
[12:10] <Low_E> there is allready a line root ALL=ALL ...
[12:10] <Warbo> Flippy209: You realise that the fglrx and radeon drivers are different?
[12:11] <Warbo> Flippy209: Oh, OK
[12:11] <Flippy209> yes
[12:11] <QRZ> Low_E:  Yeah... as in, 'sudo visudo' which will open up the /etc/sudoers file in a text editor.
[12:11] <crimsun> udo: sorry, I have to board my flight now
[12:11] <BIAF> Warbo : what if im installing a script from firefox and its about to create folders and stuff , what app would i tell gksudo to allow admin access with in that instance
[12:11] <Flippy209> but see on that page in that return he's got the vendor and renderer screen as something else
[12:11] <QRZ> Low_E:  You should probably do some reading about sudo though.
[12:11] <udo> how can i use the command "noapic"
[12:11] <Flippy209> with using the radeon drivers I'm getting a return of Mesa GLX Inderect
[12:11] <Warbo> BIAF: If it is being done with firefox then "gksudo firefox" will give it admin rights, but I would NOT use that to access the regular Internet
[12:11] <paladinhugo> can anyone tell me how can I change the screen depth?
[12:12] <udo> how can  i boot with "noapic" or "pci=noacpi?
[12:12] <Flippy209> lemme just fire up wow in cedega quick and see if I notice a difference, I couldn't test it last night
[12:12] <Low_E> "members of admin group may gain root previleges" ?? is a line in this visudo ... so do I have to make them memeber of admingroup anyway?
[12:12] <BIAF> warbo : thanks
[12:12] <Warbo> Flippy209: The "fglrxinfo" program seems to be specific to the fglrx driver, so I would go with glxinfo (which apparently is also saying no direct rendering?)
[12:13] <Flippy209> correct
[12:13] <Dial_tone> how do you list installed pkgs with apt?
[12:13] <gord> paladinhugo, in your xorg.conf (/usr/X11/xorg.conf) look for a item called 'DefaultDepth' in the section 'Screen'. change that to the display depth you want, backup your xorg.conf first though
[12:13] <QRZ> Low_E:  Nope.  A line with, 'username  ALL=(ALL) ALL' in the /etc/sudoers file will give sudo access to username.
[12:13] <Flippy209> what was it glxinfo | grep rendering ?
[12:13] <Flippy209> nvm got it
[12:13] <Warbo> Flippy209: I was watching a few Demos earlier and one of them actually said as part of it's initialisation "Congratulations you have direct rendering" which I find quite ironic now :)
[12:13] <mwe> glxinfo|grep direct
[12:13] <paladinhugo> gord, I have already changed that
[12:13] <Flippy209> oh really
[12:14] <Flippy209> demos from radeon?
[12:14] <Low_E> okay thx and how do I use these ^X-commands ? it is not ALT-X f SHift-X
[12:14] <gutano> is the desktop CD just a liveCD with enough tools to start a network install? server having most packages on the cd?
[12:14] <gord> paladinhugo, restart X then
[12:14] <Warbo> Flippy209: Demos as in Demo Scene (check scene.org if you don;t know what it is)
[12:14] <paladinhugo> Ctrl Alt Backspace?
[12:14] <gord> or just a normal restart
[12:14] <Flippy209> new* even
[12:14] <ardchoille> paladinhugo: yes
[12:15] <Warbo> Flippy209: I've got soooo many on my Amiga cover CDs
[12:15] <QRZ> Low_E:  That is CTRL-x
[12:15] <Flippy209> well dude, besides following your directions to a tee.. (3 times) do you know any other way to enable that?
[12:15] <Flippy209> I know the card supports it
[12:15] <Warbo> Flippy209: But emulating 3D graphics on an x86 is a bit didgy
[12:15] <paladinhugo> is there any way to check the actual depth?
[12:15] <Low_E> ahaaaa
[12:15] <Flippy209> it seems we'd agree that possibly I do need the tweaks you provide
[12:16] <Flippy209> but when I added them I couldn't boot x
[12:16] <Warbo> Flippy209: Well I sort of made up those instructions as I went (and cut out the bits which didn't work) so I am really at a loss
[12:16] <Flippy209> I guess Load x would be the correct term
[12:16] <Warbo> Flippy209: Hang on, I will make sure they are correct (maybe a typo is the only problem)
[12:16] <Low_E> ^X seems to exit but dont I have to save it first? how? is this a regular vi? maybe I should look for vi-faq?
[12:16] <Flippy209> ok
[12:17] <Flippy209> I only use vi because I'm used to it
[12:17] <Flippy209> everybody else has some nifty text editor they perfer though :P
[12:17] <gutano> can anyone tell me the difference between the desktop/server install CD's?  (a little less dumbed down than the download page)
[12:17] <Flippy209> what's the problem Low_E ?
[12:17] <Dial_tone> the server sets up LAMP, I believe
[12:18] <garryF> I prefer gedit for gnome or nano
[12:18] <Flippy209> to save in vi do :w while not in insert mode
[12:18] <maxkelley> Hi, is there anyone experienced with vncserver/Xvnc?
[12:18] <paladinhugo> brb
[12:18] <billybennett> How hard is it to get TVout working with Nvidia Cards?
[12:18] <Flippy209> yeah I kept running into those three yesterday
[12:18] <Flippy209> garryF:  what's the ^ mean at the bottom of (nano)
[12:18] <Flippy209> I think nano
[12:18] <Low_E> and how to get in insert mode? .. but I guess these are stupid questions, i should learn how to use vi first? but not easy as a noob who simply tries to do some simple stuff in linux :D
[12:18] <Flippy209> is that shift?
[12:19] <Dial_tone> Flippy209 control
[12:19] <gutano> Dial_tone: so they made another CD to include apache, mysql and php/perl/python?  hrrrm... I don't think that's right, but atleast you responded, heh =D
[12:19] <maxkelley> Low_E: press the insert button :)
[12:19] <green_earz> maxkelley: i may be of some help
[12:19] <Flippy209> to insert insert mode hit i
[12:19] <Flippy209> then ESCAPE to leave insert mode
[12:19] <QRZ> Low_E:  It will save the modified buffer if you select 'yes'.  You can't use a standalone editor such as vi to edit it.  The visudo utility is a wrapper that verifies the integrity of the /etc/sudoers file before it allows the changes to be written to it.
[12:19] <mikearthur> anyone have any tips for improving Ubuntu fonts? Hopefully using BCF...
[12:19] <green_earz> maxkelley: vnc
[12:19] <maxkelley> green_earz: ok, I get an error in my vnc logs saying "default font 'fixed' could not be loaded"
[12:19] <Flippy209> listen to QRZ, I'm a nubcake
[12:19] <Low_E> thx again QRZ!
[12:19] <Flippy209> thanks Dial_tone
[12:20] <maxkelley> I'm not sure what to set the font paths to.
[12:20] <Warbo> Flippy209: Looking at those lines there is nothing up with the options. You are ONLY adding the "Option" lines aren't you? (the "Identifier" is needed later, so if you change it you must also change it in the "Screen" section)
[12:20] <garryF> Hmm, I dunno, Maybe I got nano mixed up with joe another editor. That ^ sounds like vi which I totally hate.
[12:20] <Flippy209> let me show you the extra line I had Warbo, see if it makes sense to you.
[12:20] <gi2k15> I don't know why, but suddenly ths PC here stopped seeing the other PC connected to a hub with Win XP. I can't even ping. Any ideas?
[12:20] <QRZ> Low_E:  welcome
[12:20] <antisocial_boris> i need help, ubuntu is claiming my laptop has no battery present
[12:21] <Low_E> learned a lot this way, thx HEAPS!!
[12:21] <green_earz> maxkelley: sorry i lost with that one
[12:21] <maxkelley> gi2k15: can the xp see the other pc?
[12:21] <maxkelley> green_earz: alright, thanks anyways
[12:21] <Low_E> linux is not easy, takes time but is challenging
[12:21] <mikebot> what is the program that allows you to browse ext3 ()and ext2) partitions in windows?
[12:21] <gi2k15> maxkelley, no, I just tried it. It was working this morning, I turned off both PCs and now it's not working anymore
[12:21] <maxkelley> mikebot: ext2ifs
[12:21] <mikebot> maxkelley: thanks
[12:21] <maxkelley> gi2k15: check network connections, etc.
[12:22] <Flippy209> Warbo: My extra line is:  Option          "UseFBDev"     "true"
[12:22] <QRZ> Low_E:  It's fun though!  Just be patient with it.  It's like anything else worthwhile... takes time!
[12:22] <maxkelley> mikebot: do your linux partitions have drive letters in XP?
[12:22] <Low_E> and is there a way to activate root?
[12:22] <Flippy209> other than that I only have Identifier, Driver, and BusID
[12:22] <mikebot> maxkelley: yes, but it asks to format them
[12:22] <maxkelley> Low_E: sudo passwd
[12:22] <Warbo> Flippy209: Ah, I that was added by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yes? I said no, but I don't know if that would make a huge difference
[12:22] <mikebot> maxkelley: and i had a program installed so i could browse them, but for some reason it stopped working
[12:22] <maxkelley> mikebot: hrm.. well, I dunno, it might work.
[12:23] <mikebot> maxkelley: ok, thanks
[12:23] <gi2k15> maxkelley, I checked, everything seems to be normal... I think I'm gonna turn off here and see what happens
[12:23] <Warbo> Flippy209: Paste your xorg.conf please, I want to check something
[12:23] <Flippy209> very well could have been, I have no idea
[12:23] <Flippy209> ok one sec
[12:23] <maxkelley> I tried doing the same the other day, but then again, I didn't mess around too much.
[12:23] <maxkelley> not in the channel, though! Flippy!
[12:23] <Warbo> maxkelley: lol
[12:23] <maxkelley> there are some people..
[12:23] <Flippy209> I won't LMAO
[12:24] <maxkelley> ah, ok then :)
[12:24] <Low_E> Currently i am working on a server that i instaled at school which i connected through ssh with putty ... I would like to make a domain server of it (try to) ... and add some of my students .. isn't there another way to add lots of users at once
[12:24] <Flippy209> learned about pastebin from ic56 yesterday
[12:24] <Flippy209> less xorg.conf won't let me copy all :\
[12:24] <maxkelley> domain as in DNS server?
[12:24] <maxkelley> Flippy209: heh.
[12:24] <maxkelley> Low_E: just use adduser as root? that's all I can think of.
[12:25] <Warbo> Flippy209: Just cat it then scroll up (in a graphical terminal that is)
[12:25] <maxkelley> maxkelley: how many students?
[12:25] <Flippy209> good idea
[12:25] <maxkelley> er.
[12:25] <maxkelley> wait.
[12:25] <maxkelley> did I just do that?
[12:25] <dothebart> hy...
[12:25] <maxkelley> yeah, I did.
[12:25] <maxkelley> wow.
[12:25] <el-nino> does anyone know if the command sar is available for linux
[12:25] <Low_E> mmmm, not so interesting when you have to add 200 students at once LOL, but i guess i could do that.
[12:25] <maxkelley> Low_E: how many students? :P
[12:25] <maxkelley> hrm.
[12:25] <maxkelley> I wonder if you could create a bash script..
[12:26] <Warbo> Flippy209: You know you can select what you want to paste then middle-click where you want it pasted? I found that out from DSL :)
[12:26] <dothebart> i've got a principle question about /var/run. it seems as if subdirs get wiped there on reboot?
[12:26] <Flippy209> yes
[12:26] <Low_E> do these users have an emailadress when created or is this another manual job to do?
[12:26] <Dial_tone> anyone have bogofilter configured in evolution? I don't see any howtos
[12:26] <Flippy209> I do that at work all day.. amazing it took me this long to switch
[12:26] <dothebart> or does a package need to register that it has a subdir in there?
[12:26] <Low_E> bash script? ok, again something to study about LOL
[12:26] <Flippy209> pretty handy
[12:26] <maxkelley> Low_E: internal, yes. otherwise, it depends on the server, I think. most of the time it works.. I think :P
[12:27] <maxkelley> PHRASE OF THE DAY: I THINK IT DOES...
[12:27] <Sir> Hey
[12:27] <Warbo> hey
[12:27] <maxkelley> Hello Sir, how may I help you today?
[12:27] <finalbeta> I wanted to have 3D acceleration for my ATI card, when running fglrxinfo i'm suposed to get some ATI info, but I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16225 Anyone knows what the reason of it is, what it means.
[12:27] <maxkelley> heh.. always wanted to say that..
[12:27] <Flippy209> Warbo: I left out the bash info at the top: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16226
[12:27] <maxkelley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16225
[12:27] <Low_E> LOL
[12:27] <tritium> !tell finalbeta about ati
[12:27] <Warbo> finalbeta: What card do you have?
[12:27] <maxkelley> ah, shoot
[12:27] <Flippy209> haha
[12:27] <maxkelley> that was supposed to go in my browser.
[12:27] <Jinkguns> Could anyone tell me why after using easy ubuntu, only 1 out of 7 dvds are playable, the other 6 won't mount, I get a bad fs message
[12:28] <Sir> Oh just lookin to talk
[12:28] <green_earz> maxkelley: here the a link that got me going with vnc its for debian but should be of use to you > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/135    and another one for ssh tunnel vnc http://www.ltsp.org/contrib/vnc.html
[12:28] <Sir> I'm using ubuntu myself
[12:28] <garryF> Alternate phrase of the day. I'm just looking for a mate that will love me for who I *think* I am.
[12:28] <maxkelley> green_earz: k, thanks :) I just used apt ;P
[12:28] <green_earz> np
[12:28] <maxkelley> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/135
[12:28] <maxkelley> argh
[12:28] <maxkelley> stupid putty
[12:28] <Flippy209> putty bugs me so much
[12:29] <finalbeta> Warbo: radeon mobile, FireGL9000 , I followed http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide and some others. always ends up the same
[12:29] <MdSalih> anyone here use rtorrent ?
[12:29] <maxkelley> I screwed up grub when doing winxp/ubuntu dual boot, so I have been to lazy to revert to linux :)
[12:29] <Warbo> Flippy209: OK, my idea was stupid. (by the way, impressive resolution. I need a new monitor :))
[12:29] <b166er> why cant i acess my 'windows' dir ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16227
[12:29] <Sir> Where's another place where there's a lot of people?
[12:29] <Flippy209> haha
[12:29] <ardchoille> Sir: #freenode
[12:29] <Flippy209> It's probably not supposed to do this
[12:29] <b166er> Sir 'India'
[12:29] <Flippy209> could be part of my problem
[12:30] <Sir> k thanks
[12:30] <Warbo> finalbeta: OK, it's just that there are 2 3D drivers for ATI cards. You should use fglrx, but I have little experience with it
[12:30] <maxkelley> MIRPHNARGANOPH!
[12:31] <Dial_tone> the ati binary drivers have a problem that breaks openoffice
[12:31] <tamago> hey guys, anyone know how to get ACC files working in banshee  /rhythmbox?
[12:31] <Warbo> maxkelley: Drop your keyboard?
[12:31] <maxkelley> Warbo: no, just a brain coredump.
[12:31] <Inner|RE> anyone ever used a netgear Wireless Router MR314
[12:31] <Inner|RE> ?
[12:31] <dothebart> is there a channel for ubuntu packagers?
[12:31] <finalbeta> Warbo:  that's the one I'm trying to use
[12:31] <Warbo> maxkelley: Better than min: _______________________________________________
[12:31] <maxkelley> Warbo: you didn't have to paste it, we all know ;)
[12:32] <Warbo> finalbeta: yes, I was just seeing if you could use the radeon driver, but you can't (well, you could but you would have no 3D)
[12:32] <Flippy209> I have to go back to fglrx :(
[12:32] <Warbo> Flippy209: Have you looked through those "See Also" pages?
[12:32] <Low_E> again QRZ, thx a lot! you made it easy for me and I learned again :)
[12:32] <maxkelley> hrm.. video card drivers make me the opposite of warm and fuzzy inside.
[12:32] <maxkelley> cold and rough...
[12:32] <Fredsa> hi guys, I've accidentally deleted my ~ dir and I can't create a new one. Does anyone know what I should do (save reinstall)?
[12:32] <Zephod> fixed myself anyway
[12:33] <maxkelley> Fredsa: errrr.. make /home/user ? :P
[12:33] <Flippy209> not well enough
[12:33] <QRZ> Low_E:  welcome
[12:33] <Warbo> Fredsa: The default user files are in /etc/skel, so you could make a new dir out of those (in "recovery mode")
[12:33] <andresxtremo> mm
[12:33] <andresxtremo> ll
[12:33] <Flippy209> was that site you pasted correct?
[12:33] <maxkelley> cp -r /etc/skel /home/mynameispoopy
[12:33] <Warbo> Flippy209: For the guide? Yes
[12:33] <maxkelley> I think.
[12:34] <Flippy209> mind pasting it again, I don't have IRC logging on and it's not up there. :\
[12:34] <andresxtremo> help my configure adsl service for ethernet connection
[12:34] <Fredsa> thanks Warbo, will check it out
[12:34] <Warbo> followed by "chown mynameispoopy /home/mynameispoopy -R"
[12:34] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: it's an ethernet modem or a usb one?
[12:34] <[666] CortexX> I get "su: auth failure in stead of gksu: waiting", why ??
[12:34] <maxkelley> Warbo: precisely.
[12:34] <andresxtremo> ethernet
[12:34] <Warbo> Flippy209: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[12:34] <Flippy209> Warbo: ty
[12:34] <st3v3dnd> I wanted to use the latest version of Mono on my Dapper install, and after installing, it kills gedit. Has anyone experienced that? The error is: gedit: /opt/mono-1.1.13.8/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[12:34] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: plug it in, you should be set to go.
[12:35] <Fredsa> oh, I forgot to say, I can't log in graphically at all
[12:35] <maxkelley> just go to Network and activate eth0 (or whatever interface) with DHCP
[12:35] <Fredsa> not even in safe mode
[12:35] <andresxtremo> yes
[12:35] <andresxtremo> but ..
[12:35] <finalbeta> Warbo: the error message i'm getting is because of a bug in the latest ATI driver, apparently I need to copy this lib to /usr/bin/ http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2
[12:35] <maxkelley> Fredsa: that's fine, do ctrl-alt-f1 through f6
[12:35] <Warbo> st3v3dnd: Looks like you need a whole other install of some libraries in /opt/mono-1.1.13.8 as the prefix
[12:36] <salamiman> guys, i have an ATI Radeon 9550 -problem
[12:36] <andresxtremo> not send
[12:36] <maxkelley> Fredsa: and do it in console.
[12:36] <finalbeta> Warbo: but even then I will not have 3D acc? wanted to try compiz
[12:36] <Fredsa> maxkelly, I'm in console now
[12:36] <maxkelley> ATI is the poop, tonight.
[12:36] <salamiman> i don't seem to get ANY 3D acceleration with the card
[12:36] <andresxtremo> mm
[12:36] <Flippy209> Warbo: R350
[12:36] <Flippy209>     Radeon 9800PRO/9800SE/9800, FireGL X2 (2D only)
[12:36] <Flippy209> 2d only
[12:36] <maxkelley> Fredsa: can you just delete the user and re-add it?
[12:36] <Warbo> finalbeta: Copy a library to /usr/bin? Maybe /usr/lib ........
[12:36] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: hrm? is it working?
[12:36] <finalbeta> Warbo: ehm, righ, my bad /usr/lib/
[12:37] <andresxtremo> have a driver for speed touch
[12:37] <Warbo> Flippy209: Ah. That MIGHT be the problem
[12:37] <Flippy209> definately
[12:37] <andresxtremo> i rookie in the linux
[12:37] <salamiman> is there a kernel module for the flgrx driver?
[12:37] <TiGRETON> hi everybody
[12:37] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: ah, ok, go to System > Administration > Network Settings
[12:37] <kolaje> does anyone use steam for hl mods in ubuntu?
[12:37] <Fredsa> maxkelley: if I create a new user, does get access to root privs through sudo?
[12:37] <Flippy209> so I tried wow with the radeon setup and it won't even run.. gotta go back to the other
[12:37] <andresxtremo> ok
[12:37] <[666] CortexX> I get "su: auth failure in stead of gksu: waiting", why ??
[12:37] <maxkelley> Fredsa: it should
[12:37] <Warbo> Flippy209: Well now I know that it DOES work for higher boards, just not 3D (don't know if ati driver is just as good)
[12:38] <st3v3dnd> Warbo: Why would that be? gedit was working perfectly fine before. Are you saying the mono installed changed where some libs are found?
[12:38] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: highlight Ethernet Connection (eth0) and click activate.
[12:38] <Flippy209> yeah
[12:38] <andresxtremo> yea
[12:38] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: because it's ethernet, you shouldn't need a driver.
[12:38] <andresxtremo> ithis is activated
[12:38] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: k, what is "default interface" set to?
[12:38] <Warbo> st3v3dnd: Something is looking for a png library in /opt/mono<whatever>/
[12:39] <BIAF> anyone know file name to apt-get a mail program called postfix?
[12:39] <andresxtremo> eth0
[12:39] <maxkelley> BIAF: sudo apt-get install postfix
[12:39] <BIAF> thx
[12:39] <maxkelley> andresxtremo: good, click "ok" and you should be set to go.
[12:39] <andresxtremo> ok
[12:40] <BIAF> does ubuntu come with DNS Server: BIND9 ?
[12:40] <gnuyen> hi, is there a UML root image of dapper?
[12:40] <maxkelley> BIAF: the easiest way to do it would be to use synaptic tso you can select packages that gog with it.
[12:40] <dr3wster> hi, I just recently downloaded flock (it's like firefox), and it came in a .tar.gz file...  Where should I unzip this to so that it's in a standard location (Like windows Program Files folder) and how do I put a shortcut to it on my desktop?
[12:40] <maxkelley> BIAF: sudo apt-get install bind9, or somehting like that.
[12:40] <andresxtremo> in this moment have a bridge in other computer for navigation
[12:40] <Sula> oi
[12:40] <Sula>  quem fala
[12:41] <Warbo> Does anyone know of a quicker (probably means not interpreted) replacement for the GDesklet dock-type thing?
[12:41] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ok, do tar -xvzf file.tar.gz in a terminal (Applications > Accessories > tERMINAL)
[12:41] <Sula> oi
[12:41] <Sula> Hello
[12:41] <dr3wster> maxkelley, but that will put it on my desktop, and I don't want it there
[12:41] <andresxtremo> is failed connection adsl ... is a router adsl!!!
[12:41] <Sula> escreve portugues
[12:42] <ompaul> !pr
[12:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about pr
[12:42] <ompaul> !pt
[12:42] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:42] <maxkelley> dr3wster: No, it should put it on your home dir
[12:42] <maxkelley> in
[12:42] <Sula> como  seu nome
[12:42] <dr3wster> maxkelley, oh, haha, all right.  And then how do I make a shortcut to it?
[12:42] <billybennett> how do I apply a key to a entry I added to my sources.list ?
[12:42] <kolaje> my connection in pppconfig seems to be working fine, but when i do 'pon' it just goes to a new command line... isn't it suppoed to connect, and then go to a new prompt? (it doesn't dial)
[12:43] <salamiman> Ok in the repository htere are no flgrx in x*, lib*, kernel*, f*Ok in the repository htere are no flgrx in x*, lib*, kernel*, f*
[12:43] <maxkelley> dr3wster: it's not as easy as windows, buddy :) then, read what's in the README file on how to install it.
[12:43] <salamiman> where the fuck can i fild kernel modules for the ATI drivers?
[12:43] <maxkelley> dr3wster: either the readme or install files.
[12:43] <maxkelley> salamiman: synaptic, fucker :)
[12:43] <billybennett> Does anyone know how to apply a key to an entry I added to my sources.list ?
[12:43] <salamiman> synaptic isjust another frontend
[12:43] <salamiman> ther ARE NO kernel mods
[12:44] <dr3wster> maxkelley, uhh, it doesn't have readme or install files... I know that sounds really odd but it really doesn't.
[12:44] <maxkelley> salamiman: did you enable universe and multiverse repositories?
[12:44] <salamiman> sure
[12:44] <salamiman> and i have the drivers installed
[12:44] <salamiman> butno 3D acceleration
[12:44] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ok, what does the flock website say about ti?
[12:44] <salamiman> i have an ATI Radeon 9550
[12:44] <dr3wster> maxkelley, checking, but I'd also like to note that it did untar it to my desktop, not my home dir
[12:44] <maxkelley> salamiman: what driver are you using in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <salamiman> ATI Radeon 9600
[12:45] <maxkelley> dr3wster: oh, interesting. well, that's fine,y uo can delete the install files later.
[12:45] <iamelite> Woohoo i got IRC workin
[12:45] <maxkelley> salamiman: no, driver, like radeon, or fglrx..
[12:45] <maxkelley> iamelite: *pat-pat*
[12:45] <salamiman> ati
[12:45] <billybennett> Does anyone know how to apply a key to an entry I added to my sources.list for Synaptic? ?
[12:45] <Fredsa> billybennett: try man apt-key
[12:45] <maxkelley> dr3wster: does the flock site say anything?
[12:45] <Warbo> will (super)karamba run like crap in GNOME?
[12:46] <dr3wster> maxkelley, hrm,  I don't see anything...
[12:46] <maxkelley> salamiman: try "radeon"
[12:46] <iamelite> hey hey... thats quite an accomplishment for someone with enough Linux experiance... that could fit in a small coffee mug.
[12:46] <raptros-v76> Warbo: if it runs at all
[12:46] <billybennett> thanks Fredsa
[12:46] <dr3wster> maxkelley, if I click the flock file within that directory it just opens the app.
[12:46] <maxkelley> ahhhh
[12:46] <Warbo> raptros-v76: Well, I am feeling adventurous
[12:46] <raptros-v76> Warbo: good luck
[12:46] <salamiman> maxkelley  in the section "Device"?
[12:46] <maxkelley> ok, open a terminal for me, dr3wster
[12:46] <dr3wster> maxkelley, but I want it to run from somewhere not on my desktop w/ a shortcut to it.
[12:46] <dr3wster> maxkelley, k
[12:46] <iamelite> so anyone good with WoW patches? and ubuntu
[12:46] <maxkelley> salamiman: no, driver, I believe.
[12:47] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[12:47] <maxkelley> dr3wster: flock is , apparently, distributed as an already-compiled program.
[12:47] <maxkelley> dr3wster: type cd /usr/bin
[12:47] <Flippy209> wow this is going to be hard to revert back to fglrx drivers
[12:47] <dr3wster> maxkelley: done
[12:47] <maxkelley> dr3wster: where is the tar file?
[12:47] <iamelite> world of warcraft patches*
[12:47] <Fredsa> how do I add a new user? I'm trying `useradd foo -p bar` but I can't login with that u/p
[12:47] <dr3wster> maxkelley,  /home/drew/Desktop/
[12:47] <maxkelley> Fredsa: adduser.
[12:47] <Flippy209> I did a wow patch yesterday
[12:48] <Flippy209> have to run it with wine
[12:48] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ok, now do sudo cp /home/drew/Desktop/filename.tar.gz /usr/bin/filename.tar.gz
[12:48] <salamiman> saved maxkellay, rebooting
[12:48] <maxkelley> salamiman: no, don't reboot.
[12:48] <maxkelley> gah
[12:48] <maxkelley> stupid kid doesn't let me tell him ctrl-alt-del :)
[12:49] <doctorshim> What do you ever need to reboot for, anyway?
[12:49] <maxkelley> I should have known, he's the type to start a conversation with "where the fuck"
[12:49] <Flippy209> haha
[12:49] <maxkelley> doctorshim: kernel updates...
[12:49] <doctorshim> Other than that.
[12:49] <doctorshim> :p
[12:49] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[12:49] <maxkelley> doctorshim: uhhhh if your computer is tired, OK!?!
[12:49] <Flippy209> lol
[12:49] <raptros-v76> doctorshim: if you really screw something up
[12:49] <doctorshim> Mine does look a bit tuckered.
[12:49] <iamelite> I tried useing wine and opening the Bittorrent/patcher. But after varifying hte file it just Dives/crashes
[12:50] <maxkelley> dr3wster: sudo tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[12:50] <raptros-v76> doctorshim: for the same reason you never do "sudo cat /dev/port"
[12:50] <krazykit> doctorshim: you reboot to change hardware too ;-)  i lost 40 days of uptime to that...
[12:50] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: oops.
[12:50] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: hmm?
[12:50] <iamelite> on the bright side i have gotten my Opengl running on my ATI card
[12:50] <st3v3dnd> Warbo: It looks like the installer for Mono set the prepended /opt/mono... to my PATH. That's not proper procedure is it?
[12:50] <maxkelley> sometimes if X totally crashes everthing..
[12:50] <dr3wster> maxkelley, untarring complete
[12:50] <MisterN> n8
[12:50] <doctorshim> heh
[12:50] <doctorshim> uptime records. :p
[12:50] <ali4728> Help! My wireless card on my Laptop is not activated on boot (ndiswrapper). I am stuck on how to configure the wireless ("eth1" or "wlan0"). Any advice?
[12:51] <maxkelley> dr3wster: do a "cd (directory where it extracted to)"
[12:51] <raptros-v76> doctorshim: its very simple. it makes it so you have to hard shutdown your computer.
[12:51] <BIAF> and what about 'Courier-POP3/Courier-IMAP' how are the got via apt-get
[12:51] <kolaje> my connection in pppconfig seems to be working fine, but when i do 'pon' it just goes to a new command line... isn't it suppoed to connect, and then go to a new prompt? (it doesn't dial)
[12:51] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[12:51] <kolaje> it works in X though
[12:51] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ok, now, what is the filename of the application in the directory?
[12:51] <dr3wster> maxkelley, flock
[12:51] <iamelite> Is there an Ubuntu Gamers channel?
[12:52] <maxkelley> dr3wster: sudo echo "/usr/bin/(directory)/flock" > /usr/bin/flock
[12:52] <Warbo> st3v3dnd: If it ADDED it then that should be OK. It it replaced anything then that would be worrying
[12:52] <BIAF> iamelite : dont think so, but good idea
[12:52] <maxkelley> then sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/flock
[12:52] <dr3wster> maxkelley, what is (directory) ?
[12:53] <doctorshim> Ah! Doing "cat /dev/port" reads one bytes from all available devices, huh?
[12:53] <doctorshim> That's something new for me.
[12:53] <raptros-v76> doctorshim: thats what it does?
[12:53] <krazykit> doctorshim: try catting stuff to /dev/dsp ;-)
[12:53] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[12:53] <maxkelley> dr3wster: the flock directory
[12:54] <maxkelley> sorry :)
[12:54] <doctorshim> krazykit: Eew. I can only assume what that does.
[12:54] <doctorshim> raptros-v76: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9904.3/0513.html
[12:54] <maxkelley> what directory di you use?
[12:54] <dr3wster> maxkelley, all it said when I did the sudo echo was "bash: /usr/bin/flock: is a directory
[12:54] <dr3wster> maxkelley, is that right?
[12:54] <maxkelley> ah, ok.
[12:54] <krazykit> doctorshim: do it with the speakers WAY up too :-P
[12:54] <BIAF> how do I get Courier-POP3/Courier-IMAP or is that already part of Postfix
[12:54] <paradizelost> hey all, i just did a breezy install, and a dapper install, and the machine hard-locks periodically.
[12:54] <paradizelost> it's in GUI, where do i find the crash log?
[12:54] <maxkelley> nope, do sudo echo "/usr/bin/flock/flock" > /usr/bin/flock-bin
[12:54] <stickys> does anyone know which file contains this type of line:  video=atyfb:vmode:14,cmode:32,mclk:71
[12:55] <maxkelley> then do sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/flock-bin
[12:55] <runes> I need help with the lamp configuration..I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP but the .php files do not work
[12:55] <krazykit> maxkelley: if it's a precompiled binary, it really ought to be in /opt
[12:55] <robertj> stickysgrub.cojnf?
[12:55] <maxkelley> dr3wster: sorry for the confusion
[12:55] <dr3wster> maxkelley, it said permission denied, and yes I typed sudo.
[12:55] <LjL> stickys: that's a kernel parameter. it'll be in your bootloader's config
[12:55] <robertj> stickys grub.conf?
[12:55] <maxkelley> krazykit: oh, whoopsies :)
[12:55] <dr3wster> maxkelley, do I have to create the flock-bin folder first?
[12:55] <maxkelley> dr3wster: no, flock-bin will be a file.
[12:55] <doctorshim> runes: what do you mean?
[12:56] <doctorshim> the page won't display?
[12:56] <maxkelley> just exec the commands and you should be file.
[12:56] <maxkelley> fine, rather :)
[12:56] <dr3wster> maxkelley, well, it's saying permission denied
[12:56] <stickys> in /opt
[12:56] <stickys> ?
[12:56] <krazykit> dr3wster: you need sudo...
[12:56] <dr3wster> krazykit, I did sudo
[12:56] <s0nix> hi all
[12:56] <maxkelley> dr3wster: did you do sudo?
[12:56] <dr3wster>  sudo echo "/usr/bin/flock/flock" > /usr/bin/flock-bin
[12:56] <dr3wster> bash: /usr/bin/flock-bin: Permission denied
[12:56] <dr3wster> maxkelley, yes.
[12:56] <runes> doctorshim, I installed php 5 with apache 2  when I created the file phpinfo.php to test the install of php and all it wants to do is download the php file not parse it
[12:56] <maxkelley> that's quite odd.
[12:56] <s0nix> anyone have the software point2playXXX.deb ?
[12:57] <maxkelley> try replacing flock-bin with flock-exec
[12:57] <dr3wster> maxkelley, k.
[12:57] <maxkelley> did it work?
[12:57] <dr3wster> maxkelley, same error.
[12:57] <stickys> opt directory is empty
[12:57] <stickys> ?
[12:57] <doctorshim> runes: you haven't set apache to process *.php files through the PHP interpretur then.
[12:57] <ardchoille> dr3wster: why are you using echo?
[12:57] <maxkelley> ardchoille: 'cause I made him :)
[12:57] <doctorshim> runes: Apache, by itself, has no idea what to do with PHP files.
[12:57] <ardchoille> maxkelley: ok, but I am trying to learn what the purpose is, maybe I can learn something too
[12:58] <dr3wster> maxkelley, there's already a flock-bin in the flock directory w/ flock, should I just take that?
[12:58] <kolaje> in graphic mode i got my modem to work, and the modem is mounted to /dev/modem , but for some reason in console mode, it will not work
[12:58] <runes> doctorshim, I edited the httpd.conf file added two lines to get the lib file and the association of /php working with no success
[12:58] <maxkelley> ardchoille: oh, sorry.. just thought it was easier than vim.
[12:58] <soccio> How can I enable again the automounting of CDRom after upgrading to Gnome 2.14.2 (throught Dapper-Updates repository?)
[12:58] <paradizelost> can anyone help?
[12:58] <billybennett> Anyone here watch h265 video with VLC?
[12:58] <maxkelley> dr3wster: errr, no, I don't think you can do that..
[12:58] <paradizelost> system hard-locks periodicaly
[12:58] <billybennett> Anyone here watch h264 video with VLC?
[12:58] <billybennett> :P
[12:58] <doctorshim> runes: did you use AddHandler, and so on?
[12:58] <maxkelley> billybennett: yeah, I think so.
[12:58] <dr3wster> maxkelley, then what am I doing wrong? lol.
[12:58] <maxkelley> dr3wster: I dunno :)
[12:59] <maxkelley> try sudo vim /usr/bin/flock-exec
[12:59] <billybennett> maxkelley, was it distorted ever for you?
[12:59] <dr3wster> maxkelley, ah, did I screw it up by already doing the sudo chmod +x thing?
[12:59] <ardchoille> dr3wster: what are you trying to do?
[12:59] <runes> doctorshim, I'm a bit of a newbie at linux not sure how/what specifically I need to enter for the Ubuntu distro
[12:59] <maxkelley> billybennett: try mplayer.. it's better.
[12:59] <raptros-v76> dr3wster, maxkelley you need the #!/bin/bash at the top of the file
[12:59] <dr3wster> ardchoille, I'm trying to install a precompiled flock into my /usr/bin directory and put a shortcut on my desktop for it.
[12:59] <maxkelley> vlc often gives me no picture.
[12:59] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: ah, forgot that..
[12:59] <SeanTater> doctorshim: I just installed apache2-mod-php5 andit worked
[12:59] <raptros-v76> sudo vim /usr/bin/flock-bin
[01:00] <runes> doctorshim, there's just two lines can I paste them here?
[01:00] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: thanks :)
[01:00] <dr3wster> maxkelley, make it more n00b speak:-p, por favor.  (thanks raptros-v76 )
[01:00] <doctorshim> runes: did you install libapache2-mod-php5 or something simular?
[01:00] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ok, did you do sudo vim /usr/bin/flock-exec ?
[01:00] <doctorshim> oh, wait, who am I talking to... heh
[01:00] <Flippy209> how can I cancel out of sudo apt-get update if it's hanging on a connection?
[01:00] <maxkelley> Flippy209: ctrl-c
[01:00] <raptros-v76> dr3wster: #!/bin/bash tells the system how to execute the program
[01:00] <Flippy209> shoulda known, or tried.
[01:00] <dr3wster> maxkelley, yeah, it has a text editor looking thing in the terminal.
[01:00] <st3v3dnd> Warbo: No, it just slapped it on the beginning. Everything else looks to be in place.
[01:01] <doctorshim> runes: try 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5' (without the apostraphies), in the text console.
[01:01] <runes> doctorshim, already loaded through synaptic
[01:01] <doctorshim> hmm
[01:01] <raptros-v76> dr3wster: for more scripting things, sudo apt-get install abs-guide
[01:01] <doctorshim> sure, paste those lines from your config file
[01:01] <raptros-v76> dr3wster: (But do that later)
[01:01] <dr3wster> raptros-v76, thanks, I will when my terminal gets more freed up.
[01:01] <maxkelley> dr3wster: k, good. pres the insert button.
[01:02] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[01:02] <Karri> hi
[01:02] <Warbo> st3v3dnd: OK (I really don't feel qualified to help you actually, and also I'm going off on one at the moment with Karamba)
[01:02] <maxkelley> and type #!/bin/bash and press enter
[01:02] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[01:02] <raptros-v76> then escape, and :wq
[01:03] <maxkelley> then type /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin
[01:03] <st3v3dnd> Can someone tell me what should PKG_CONFIG_PATH be? Is that a standard env var?
[01:03] <Fredsa> :q
[01:03] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[01:03] <Fredsa> exit
[01:03] <maxkelley> then, yeah, press escape and then :wq
[01:03] <raptros-v76> Fredsa: no, you need to save first
[01:03] <Fredsa> (grr..)
[01:03] <runes> doctorshim, the first line in httpd.conf is LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[01:03] <maxkelley> dr3wster: back in the term?
[01:03] <dr3wster> maxkelley, k, back to the normal terminal, what now?
[01:03] <st3v3dnd> and also can someone tell me what LD_LIBRARY_PATH should be?
[01:03] <qwe> if I have a pentium 4 with emt64, do I want the 32- or the 64-bit distro?
[01:03] <maxkelley> now, do sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/flock-exec
[01:03] <Flannel> runes: did you go through the guide?
[01:04] <doctorshim> runes: anywhere a call to AddHandler?
[01:04] <Kartharak> hi, is anyone able to give me information on kernel updating?
[01:04] <dr3wster> maxkelley, done.
[01:04] <Fredsa> sorry raptros-v76, that was me trying to quit irc client while thinking I was in vim... and then bash :p
[01:04] <HellDragon> hi anyone know how to make a logitech headset working on Dapper ?
[01:04] <runes> doctorshim, the second line in httpd.conf is AddType application/xhttpd-php .php
[01:04] <maxkelley> dr3wster: now, go to te desktop, right click, "create new launcher"
[01:04] <krazykit> gah, freaking 2.6.17...
[01:04] <maxkelley> name it "Flock" and for the command, use flock-exec
[01:04] <HellDragon> ok
[01:04] <sharky> i followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org to install dvd::rip but when I start it up I'm told i dont have transcode
[01:04] <sharky> but i do have it
[01:04] <ardchoille> maxkelley: why couldn't the launcher just call the binary?
[01:05] <runes> doctorshim, I take it that is incorrect?
[01:05] <ardchoille> and forego the script?
[01:05] <doctorshim> runes: it looks fine to me
[01:05] <doctorshim> runes: try adding this under your call to AddType: AddHandler php5-script php
[01:05] <maxkelley> ardchoille: errr.. wow.. I am a bit stupid tonight.
[01:05] <dr3wster> maxkelley, when I click it nothing happens.
[01:05] <runes> doctorshim, I even went to the opint of removing php apache, sql reboot then readd
[01:05] <ardchoille> maxkelley: :)
[01:05] <Flannel> runes: did you follow the wiki guide?
[01:05] <maxkelley> dr3wster: go to your terminal and type flock-exec, see if it opens flock.
[01:05] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: and the script is called flock-bin
[01:06] <raptros-v76> isnt it?
[01:06] <dr3wster> maxkelley, you said  "then type /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin".  Did you mean /usr/bin/flock/flock?
[01:06] <runes> Flannel yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:06] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: no, I changed it to flock-exec for some reason :)
[01:06] <BIAF> is there apt-get option to get latest zlib
[01:06] <doctorshim> runes: did you add the call to AddHandler?
[01:06] <maxkelley> dr3wster: they're basically the same..
[01:06] <estupendocero> upgrading seems to have broken PCMCIA - is this a common issue?
[01:06] <Flannel> runes: and, you'll need to "completely remove"those packages, to get back to default config files
[01:06] <runes> doctorshim, do I add that as the third line in httpd.conf?
[01:06] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: but what did he call it?
[01:06] <dr3wster> maxkelley, /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:06] <doctorshim> runes: anywhere
[01:07] <doctorshim> runes: AddHandler php5-script php
[01:07] <runes> doctorshim, will try now
[01:07] <maxkelley> dr3wster: k, instead, for the command in the launcher, make it /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin
[01:07] <maxkelley> I admit to my stupidity, damnit!
[01:07] <doctorshim> runes: after you did that, type this in the console: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:07] <dr3wster> maxkelley, one second, compy froze:-p.
[01:07] <maxkelley> D'OH
[01:07] <maxkelley> LUNIX FROZE?!?!?!
[01:07] <doctorshim> dr3wster: windows? :D
[01:07] <estupendocero> I should say, upgrading to the latest UBUNTU release seems to have broken PCMCIA
[01:08] <RodrigoX> what kind of partition is better to install Ubuntu.. Reiserfs or EXT3?
[01:08] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: no, probably X froze
[01:08] <raptros-v76> linux is good. X has problems
[01:08] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: stupid X.. console rulez :)
[01:08] <Sanne> runes, doctorshim: isn't apache2.conf used now as the config file instead of httpd.conf?
[01:08] <doctorshim> RodrigoX: Doesn't really matter much. Most filesystem utilities are compatible with both
[01:08] <dr3wster> maxkelley, I'm running linux...
[01:08] <maxkelley> dr3wster: hrm?
[01:08] <raito> I'm not sure if the people here would tell me or not, but where could I get the w32codecs package for playing wmv's?
[01:08] <runes> doctorshim, LoadModule takes two arguments, a module name and the name of a shared object file to load it from
[01:08] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: no. bad person. think of the happyness that is kde
[01:08] <doctorshim> Sanne: I can't remember... It might be.
[01:09] <doctorshim> Lemmeh check!
[01:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell raito about w32codecs
[01:09] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: nay! XFCE is the shiet.
[01:09] <dr3wster> maxkelley, nvm, I tried to open flock and it gave me an error that it was already running... I"m gonna check that out first
[01:09] <Sanne> doctorshim, /etc/apache2/README seems to imply that it is
[01:09] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: KDE!!
[01:09] <maxkelley> dr3wster: do killall flock-bin or flock
[01:09] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: XFCE!
[01:09] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: simply because of amarok.
[01:09] <doctorshim> Sanne: If it is, then that would explain why httpd.conf has only three lines. :p
[01:09] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: real men use moc..
[01:09] <Sanne> doctorshim, exactly ;)
[01:10] <raptros-v76> amarok.
[01:10] <maxkelley> doctorshim: apache2.conf is the httpd.conf of apache2 :)
[01:10] <dr3wster> maxkelley, ok.
[01:10] <raptros-v76> lol
[01:10] <raito> sigh, looks like people here aren't allowed to say, stupid legalese
[01:10] <runes> Sanne good question not sure but that may explain things
[01:10] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ok, now try again.
[01:10] <maxkelley> you see, my dear drew, Firefox has some "issues"
[01:10] <Sanne> runes, not sure either, but still :)
[01:10] <dr3wster> maxkelley, trying.  And what kind of issues?
[01:10] <maxkelley> ever since it was born, it always thought it was always already running. always.
[01:10] <maxkelley> already.
[01:11] <dr3wster> maxkelley, also, I changed the launcher command and clicked on it and got nothing again:(.
[01:11] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: thats what konqueror is for.
[01:11] <maxkelley> so, I say, roast the fox :)
[01:11] <Sanne> runes, fwiw, I didn't do anything special for php support. I'm using php4, though.
[01:11] <maxkelley> dr3wster: hrm.. what field are you filling in with the cmd?
[01:11] <dr3wster> maxkelley, you an opera fan?
[01:11] <runes> sanne I read that there are to many security holes in php4 that is the only reason for going to 5
[01:11] <fredsa> thanks for the help maxkelly, I've got my user account back
[01:12] <maxkelley> dr3wster: no, I just think that firefox needs to keep on taking its pills :)
[01:12] <runes> I tried php 4 with the same issues
[01:12] <maxkelley> fredsa: np :)
[01:12] <dr3wster> maxkelley, I right click the shortcut, properties... launcher tab and I'm typing the command in the command text box
[01:12] <Sanne> runes, that's fine, I just wanted to point out that things may be different for me.
[01:12] <raptros-v76> maxkelley: at least firefox isnt internet explorer
[01:12] <maxkelley> dr3wster: for now, try /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin in the terminal
[01:12] <maxkelley> raptros-v76: oh, god no.
[01:12] <runes> sanne np not a criticism :-)
[01:12] <dr3wster> /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:12] <converge> hi
[01:13] <dr3wster> maxkelley, see above
[01:13] <stickys> can't find grup.conf file? help
[01:13] <maxkelley> mrphna
[01:13] <converge> somebody could help me about ubuntu :(
[01:13] <stickys> grub.conf
[01:13] <Warbo> !helpme
[01:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:13] <maxkelley> dr3wster: k, try sudo /usr/bin/flock/flock-bin ;0
[01:13] <Sanne> runes, just to be sure: you did start apache, and you are able to load http://127.0.0.1 in your web browser, yes?
[01:13] <doctorshim_> sorry, connection reset
[01:13] <dr3wster> maxkelley, same error
[01:13] <doctorshim_> runes: how's it going?
[01:13] <maxkelley> can i ask to ask a question, please?
[01:13] <runes> Sanne yes and dyndns works to it's not blocked locally
[01:13] <converge> I am a windows xp idiot
[01:13] <maxkelley> dr3wster: errrrrrr.
[01:14] <runes> doctorshim_,  not good still no go :-(
[01:14] <Warbo> maxkelley: You just asked to as to ask a question. That's not allowed
[01:14] <maxkelley> converge: nonsense, you're just... challenged.
[01:14] <dr3wster> maxkelley, but when I click the actual flock file in the /usr/bin/flock folder, it runs.
[01:14] <maxkelley> BANANA SPLIT!
[01:14] <doctorshim> runes: did you restart apache?
[01:14] <dr3wster> maxkelley, but when I click the actual flock file in the /usr/bin/flock folder, it runs.
[01:14] <Sanne> runes, where is your web root located? The default /var/www ?
[01:14] <converge> I am about to install ubuntu..
[01:14] <converge> I am about to install ubuntu..
[01:14] <maxkelley> dr3wster: try running /usr/bin/flock/flock in term
[01:14] <maxkelley> converge: ahuh..
[01:14] <stickys> where is the grub.conf file?
[01:14] <dr3wster> maxkelley, also, when I type in /usr/bin/usr/flock, it works.
[01:14] <QMario> Another attack?
[01:14] <maxkelley> wb Warlord384 :)
[01:15] <doctorshim> stickys: /boot
[01:15] <runes> doctorshim_,  yes
[01:15] <dr3wster> maxkelley, so that's a yes:p
[01:15] <maxkelley> dr3wster: make the launcher /usr/bin/flock/flock :)
[01:15] <runes> Sanne I left it at default /var/www
[01:15] <stickys> not there
[01:15] <doctorshim> runes: open apache2.conf
[01:15] <doctorshim> runes: there should be two commented AddType calls
[01:15] <Sanne> runes, do you see any file for php in /etc/apache2/mods-available?
[01:15] <dr3wster> maxkelley, aaaaand it works.  Thanks! :-D
[01:16] <Warbo> converge: What do you want to know?
[01:16] <maxkelley> dr3wster: so, in the end.. it's not as easy as an exe file..
[01:16] <doctorshim> Specifically: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[01:16] <maxkelley> dr3wster: but you'll soon learn the advantages of screwing around with stuff for hours on end.
[01:16] <stickys> I am trying to change a file that has this line :  video=atyfb:vmode:14,cmode:32,mclk:71
[01:16] <png> what is /dev/wacom ?  i get error "Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory"  "(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom"  ?
[01:16] <dr3wster> maxkelley, yeah, it's all right, I spent a few hours this morning trying to compile a lexmark printer driver... This is easy comparatively:p
[01:16] <maxkelley> I was going to say compiling, but we didn't compile anything :)
[01:16] <maxkelley> png: wacom tablet :)
[01:16] <maxkelley> dr3wster: heh.
[01:17] <dr3wster> maxkelley, i'm only a pseudo-noob
[01:17] <Flannel> doctorshim: he shouldn't have to uncomment anything, unless he hosed his config files to begin with.
[01:17] <StAfZe6> hello
[01:17] <larson9999> i have a tablet.  no stylus though :(
[01:17] <runes> doctorshim_,  they are both commented out
[01:17] <maxkelley> dr3wster: ah, god :)
[01:17] <converge> Warbo talk with me
[01:17] <doctorshim> Flannel: good point. I'm assuming he might have.
[01:17] <maxkelley> larson9999: use a chopstick!! :)
[01:17] <dr3wster> maxkelley, although I have to say, damn lexmark, cus they wrote their program with the 2.4 kernel in mind and didn't update it so it won't compile:(
[01:17] <Warbo> png: There is a config for wacom graphics tablets in the default X config file, just in case you have one (but nothing for my aiptek tablet dammit!)
[01:17] <maxkelley> converge: tell us what you need help with!
[01:17] <doctorshim> Flannel: If he did, he could try purging the apache2 and php5 packages
[01:17] <doctorshim> To remove the config files.
[01:17] <maxkelley> dr3wster: heh.. stupid big money-earning companies..
[01:17] <Flannel> doctorshim: he said he just reinstalled, it'd probably be easier to have him do it again (and just be sure he purges this time), oh, and restarts apache as well.
[01:18] <stickys> I am trying to change a file that has this line :  video=atyfb:vmode:14,cmode:32,mclk:71  anyone
[01:18] <doctorshim> He did restart apache
[01:18] <doctorshim> he could try purging the packages
[01:18] <converge> I will install ubuntu tomorrow when I download it but could I run it with windows
[01:18] <Nao> hi, I was trying to install Dapper last night, and in the middle of the installation, after making the partition things, the installer would just hang, and eventually crash.  I also tried the alternate install disc, and it gets to "cleaning things up" at the very end of the installation, and then it just shuts down my computer.  Any suggestions?
[01:18] <converge> and I have alot of documents on my pc
[01:18] <maxkelley> converge: yes, you could dual boot
[01:18] <converge> how could I store them :(
[01:18] <StAfZe6> good
[01:18] <converge> what is dual boot
[01:18] <maxkelley> converge: does your windows partition take up the entire drive?
[01:18] <converge> no I have drive F and drive G
[01:19] <maxkelley> !Dual-Booting
[01:19] <fredsa> converge: google search or check the www.ubuntuforums.org. this is a very common problem
[01:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual-booting
[01:19] <converge> two parts
[01:19] <maxkelley> !Dual-Boot
[01:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual-boot
[01:19] <maxkelley> mrph.
[01:19] <doctorshim> runes: you could try purging your php5 and apache2 packages
[01:19] <Warbo> converge: You can either shrink Windows, install Ubuntu in the free space (then maybe copy the documents over and maybe even delete Windows) but the best bet may be to make a FAT32 partition. Or backup to DVDs
[01:19] <maxkelley> Warbo: know the wikidoc about dual-booting? my internet connection is a bit slow.
[01:19] <doctorshim> That would remove them *completly.* Configuration files and all.
[01:20] <Warbo> maxkelley: Nope, but I think I have the Wiki open on one of my desktops........
[01:20] <runes> doctorshim looks like it's time for that
[01:20] <maxkelley> Warbo: ah, nvm.. it was about his dual-booting problem
[01:20] <converge> I dont have a dvd player but I have a cd/w I will buy empty cds tomorrow and I will save all my documents
[01:20] <Sanne> runes, do you see any file for php in /etc/apache2/mods-available?
[01:20] <converge> than I will format my hardisk
[01:20] <converge> windows make me sick
[01:20] <Nao> does any one have any ideas that might be help me?
[01:20] <maxkelley> Nao: about what?
[01:21] <Nao> hi, I was trying to install Dapper last night, and in the middle of the installation, after making the partition things, the installer would just hang, and eventually crash.  I also tried the alternate install disc, and it gets to "cleaning things up" at the very end of the installation, and then it just shuts down my computer.  Any suggestions?
[01:21] <Mandalf> Movie on google about dual booting: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu+dual
[01:21] <runes> Sanne yes
[01:21] <Warbo> maxkelley: Hmmm. The "Community Docs" page on Installation has a dual-booting link, but the page doesn't exist (yet)
[01:21] <doctorshim> runes: type this in the console: sudo aptitude purge apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[01:21] <maxkelley> hrm
[01:21] <no0tic> I've problems with a HP LaserJet 1020 printer, it doesn't work...
[01:21] <Sanne> runes, and do you have symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled that point to those files?
[01:22] <runes> Sanne no
[01:22] <converge> could I be able to connect internet with ubuntu ? could I do everything I do with windows ?
[01:22] <Sanne> runes aha!
[01:22] <maxkelley> is there a way to do acpioff for a ubuntu install? I haven't installed the new version of ubuntu using a cd yet
[01:22] <Flannel> converge: yes
[01:22] <doctorshim> noes! what is it Sanne?
[01:22] <raptros-v76> converge: that and more
[01:22] <maxkelley> converge: yes! oh yes~
[01:22] <Mandalf> I'va problems with internet connection in ubuntu
[01:22] <maxkelley> Mandalf: cable, dsl, or dialup
[01:22] <doctorshim> runes: hold it on the purging for a sec. Looks like Sanne has an idea.
[01:22] <runes> I'm all eyes
[01:22] <Warbo> converge: Usually. Any problems are usually because of OTHER systems (like some modems can be a little dodgy, but that is since the makers of the modems don't let Linux users make drivers for them)
[01:22] <converge> but maybe my modem run on with windows ?
[01:22] <Sanne> runes, I have php4.conf and php4.load symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled that point to the respective files in /etc/apache2/mods-available
[01:22] <converge> I dont know that
[01:23] <moonlite> Mandalf: mandalf of svm-fame? :)
[01:23] <Mandalf> maxkelley: ehh
[01:23] <runes> I have php5-conf and php5-load
[01:23] <maxkelley> Mandalf: your internet connection.
[01:23] <Warbo> converge: What exactly is your modem? dial-up or broadband? Internal, serial, ethernet or usb?
[01:23] <Mandalf> moonlite: Yes
[01:23] <moonlite> neat :)
[01:23] <runes> Sanne but they are not symbolic links
[01:23] <Mandalf> maxkelley: Broadband
[01:23] <Sanne> runes, so try to make the symlinks by hand, let's see if that helps.
[01:23] <converge> usb
[01:23] <maxkelley> Mandalf: so, cable?
[01:24] <converge> sagem fast
[01:24] <converge> it say
[01:24] <runes> umm to where?
[01:24] <maxkelley> Mandalf: or dsl?
[01:24] <Mandalf> maxkelley: ADSL
[01:24] <converge> usb modem ADSL
[01:24] <Warbo> converge: I have one of them, and I wrote a great guide for using it (takes a little work though)
[01:24] <Sanne> runes, wait, I'll type it up for you (need to be careful...)
[01:24] <Warbo> !eagleusb
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about eagleusb
[01:24] <Warbo> dammit, it was removed
[01:24] <runes> Sanne np
[01:24] <maxkelley> Mandalf: usb or ethernet?
[01:24] <doctorshim> runes: be lucky you're not using Gentoo
[01:24] <danny-khi> I downloaded Alternate Install CD after great troubles and Upgrading using the instructions DrapperUpgrades page. But even with the CD it is taking lots of time to get I-dont-know-what from internet
[01:25] <Mandalf> maxkelley: ehternet
[01:25] <danny-khi> Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages [3225kB] 
[01:25] <Warbo> converge: Check out this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem/EagleUsb (look at the "Installing From Source" because the other bit doesn't work)
[01:25] <danny-khi> \
[01:25] <maxkelley> Mandalf: connected directly to the computer in question, or how?
[01:25] <Mandalf> moonlite: Begood hlsar att han gillar din lek
[01:25] <transgress> is there a reason why there is no wine package in ubuntu 64?
[01:25] <runes> doctorshim,  ya know considering thjis is the third machien I've installed this on this is the first machine where the lamp procedure is broken
[01:25] <_jason> Sanne, runes: sorry I don't mean to interrupt, but have you tried a2enmod instead of manually symlinking?
[01:25] <runes> _jason, no
[01:25] <maxkelley> lamp is an iffy thing to setup.
[01:25] <Sanne> _jason, oh, dunno about that, please elaborate, sounds like a better way.
[01:25] <Nao> so no ideas to help me guys?
[01:26] <moonlite> Mandalf: :) Jag ger osv. (let not ber more offtopic now though)
[01:26] <Warbo> transgress: WINE will not build in 64bit. You need to run a 32bit one
[01:26] <Mandalf> maxkelley: Directly
[01:26] <runes> maxkelley, yes, yes it is..ever try to get it running with windows..very ugly hence the linux install
[01:26] <maxkelley> Nao: when you get to the install menu, is there an option "acpi off"?
[01:26] <iamelite> Ok... may of you may not have World of Warcraft. But when i run the 1.11 patch. Wine (Patchname.exe) I get a window that says, sorry, the installer was unable to start up, you may be out of hard drive space.
[01:26] <Warbo> transgress: There are a couple of ways, linux32 or chroot
[01:26] <maxkelley> Mandalf: er, ok, you should just be able to go into system > administration > network settings and activate eth0 with dhcp enabled.
[01:26] <png> maxkelley, i commented all wacom lines. restarting x. hope come here soon:P
[01:26] <_jason> runes, Sanne: well you just do: sudo a2enmod module_name              You may have to restart apache afterwards, not sure
[01:27] <converge> I understand nothing about that ? Am I have to be advenced user to use ubuntu ?
[01:27] <converge> :(
[01:27] <maxkelley> png: heh.
[01:27] <Nao> maxkelley: the install menu on the desktop CD or the alternate install one?
[01:27] <Mandalf> i have done that'
[01:27] <Warbo> png: You must do it in the "Server" section too remember!
[01:27] <Warbo> damn, missed him
[01:27] <maxkelley> Nao: alternate, I think.
[01:27] <hedrek> !nvidia
[01:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:27] <Sanne> _jason, what would be the module name for php5?
[01:27] <transgress> Warbo: i shouldn't have to chroot now that ubuntu64 comes with the ia32 libraries right?
[01:27] <iamelite> so can anyone help me with this patch
[01:27] <Nao> I'm not sure, is that the thing that would toggle whether or not the computer shuts down automatically if there is an error?
[01:27] <_jason> Sanne: php5 :)
[01:27] <Warbo> converge: The guide looks really complicated, but it is only that long because I put everything in really easy to understand language and describe everything.
[01:28] <Sanne> _jason, heh, cool. rune, try that, will ya?
[01:28] <converge> ok I will be come here after I install ubuntu tomorrow
[01:28] <fredsa> oh no, i just realised my soundcard's not configured. Ubuntu used to get it ootb
[01:28] <converge> and I will ask my question after that
[01:28] <Warbo> transgress: That's theoretically right, but if the 32bit libs don't work then you may have to (but only then)
[01:28] <maxkelley> Nao: no, I don't believe so..
[01:28] <Warbo> converge: Look for me, since I am an expert on that modem and I worte the guide
[01:29] <runes> _jason, tells me the module does not exist
[01:29] <Nao> maxkelley: oh, ok, if there is such an option, should I try running it like that?
[01:29] <maxkelley> Nao: try with whatever options possible :)
[01:29] <Nao> heh, awright, thanks, I'll try that now.
[01:29] <transgress> Warbo: is there a way to grab the 32bit program then?  they have been working just dandy for other stuff
[01:30] <maxkelley> ohmygod, I envy your nick so much _
[01:30] <Warbo> transgress: You may have to get it from packages.ubuntu.com directly
[01:30] <iamelite> so if anyone could point me where someone might be able to help me with this. i would be thankful
[01:30] <_> how do I find if I have multiple instances of Perl on system?
[01:30] <fredsa> my soundcard's listed in the device manager. Anyone know how I can configure it?
[01:30] <_jason> runes: can you make sure the php5 package is installed?
[01:30] <_> thanks man
[01:30] <runes> _jason working on full removal right now will retry in a few mins
[01:31] <_jason> runes: php5 should pull in libapache2-mod-php5 which should provide you with /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load and /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
[01:31] <maxkelley> _: pidof perl (it will tell yyou the pids)
[01:31] <converge> will ubuntu accept all of my hardware ?
[01:31] <runes> _jason, is there a preferred install proc for the servers ie apache-php5-mysql
[01:31] <converge> sorry about my bad english
[01:32] <hardwarehank> anyone know why I can't mount my boot partition when using LVM on the root filesystem
[01:32] <fredsa> converge, run the livecd and you will soon find out
[01:32] <maxkelley> converge: what is your native language?
[01:32] <BIAF> is tere way to apt-get sql devel packages
[01:32] <converge> turkish
[01:32] <_jason> runes: well there is ubuntu-server which I have not tried but I believe offers you the option of installing LAMP during install of ubuntu.  Otherwise, there is the ubuntu wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:32] <converge> I dont know english too much
[01:33] <maxkelley> !tk
[01:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about tk
[01:33] <maxkelley> !tr
[01:33] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:33] <maxkelley> ^^
[01:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell converge about hardware
[01:33] <Warbo> converge: Everything excpet for your modem should be automatic. The Sagem Fast driver in Ubuntu is broken at the moment, but that guide tells you how to get a working version
[01:34] <_> i'm trying to install bugzilla and i think its fuqn up because I have multiple instances
[01:34] <converge> thanks
[01:35] <_> how can I find which one bugzilla is using
[01:35] <converge> could I use msn with ubuntu
[01:35] <converge> I know this questions are very bad
[01:35] <linkd> converge: yeah if you install "gaim"
[01:35] <Warbo> _: Is there a Perl entry in galternatives (you will probably need to install it)
[01:35] <converge> very low level questions :)
[01:35] <linkd> there are other msn programs for linux but thats the most popular
[01:35] <bimberi> !msn
[01:35] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[01:35] <maxkelley> hrm
[01:35] <Warbo> converge: The GAIM program does IRC, MSN, Yahoo and others (I am using it now)
[01:36] <converge> ok I will install that than
[01:36] <maxkelley> wb png
[01:36] <Warbo> converge: It is installed automatically :)
[01:36] <s1gnal> I just installed a server only install of 6.06 and I am having a problem with the network. When I have it set to DHCP, it starts up on its own at boottime, I set it to a static IP and now I have to issue ifup eth0 to get the network up. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16236
[01:36] <converge> thats great than :)
[01:36] <maxkelley> Warbo: no-no, automagically :)
[01:37] <png> ty maxkelley
[01:37] <Warbo> maxkelley: I would say "automagically" if it detected that you wanted it, then installed it. Automatic hasn't got groovy detection stuff (that's how I see it anyway)
[01:37] <maxkelley> dijja fixxit?
[01:37] <maxkelley> Warbo: o
[01:37] <billybennett> good program to make audio cds... mp3 to audio cd
[01:37] <billybennett> ??
[01:37] <converge> could I use photoshop ? and watch avi mp3 wmw files like that ?
[01:37] <maxkelley> +h
[01:38] <_> Warbo: is that a directory?
[01:38] <Warbo> converge: You CAN use Photoshop with a little effort, or you can use the GIMP which comes with Ubuntu
[01:38] <maxkelley> converge: not photoshop, but gimp is a good alternative. all the other stuff you can do.
[01:38] <maxkelley> or, what he said :)
[01:38] <Warbo> _: It checks the alternatives (I think the dir for them is /usr/share/alternatives)
[01:38] <maxkelley> how-dhee, Luser :)
[01:38] <converge> I study in a graphic desing university and I have to use photoshop
[01:38] <maxkelley> converge: then you can dual-boot.
[01:38] <billybennett> What's a good program to make Audio CDs from MP3 ??
[01:39] <BIAF> Con : install wine first then mount ur windows drive and click on the exe and it will run perfect, no need to install again
[01:39] <larson9999> converge: if you're a photoshop guy, you should try gimpshop.  it's the aforementioned gimp with an interface that looks tons like photoshop
[01:39] <Warbo> converge: You can get it working pretty much definetly in CrossOver Office (for a small charge) but it will probably work in WINE, which is free
[01:39] <maxkelley> boot into windows when you need to use photoshop, and into linux for whatever else.
[01:39] <BIAF> photoshop 6.0 < runs perfect under linux/wine
[01:39] <converge> yes I will be have still windows
[01:40] <converge> for photoshot or 3dmax
[01:40] <BIAF> just mount win drive and click the .exe
[01:40] <Warbo> converge: Do you have a pretty fast computer? If you have about 1.5GHz+ then you can run Windows inside Ubuntu whenever you want something like photoshop
[01:40] <converge> I have pentium4 3.00 ghz
[01:40] <converge> and 1024 ram
[01:40] <larson9999> photoshop run fast enough in just 1.5 ghz machine?
[01:40] <neopsyche> greetings
[01:40] <Warbo> converge: For 3DS Max I would say boot into Windows. Running 3D stuff which is not designed for Linux will go slow
[01:40] <neopsyche> ;-)
[01:40] <BIAF> yes because its not all emulation the wine app
[01:40] <BIAF> very native
[01:40] <fredsa> warbo, under a vm? wouldn't that be very slow? Just guessing, but I think photoshop's pretty hungry
[01:41] <s1gnal> I just installed a server only install of 6.06 and I am having a problem with the network. When I have it set to DHCP, it starts up on its own at boottime, I set it to a static IP and now I have to issue ifup eth0 to get the network up. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16236
[01:41] <maxkelley> it's not emulation, it's a wrapper ;)
[01:41] <converge> yes ok than I will keep my windosw xp
[01:41] <neopsyche> does anyone know where i can download stuff from IRC.. like linux distros, open source apps etc.?
[01:41] <converge> you are all so friendly
[01:41] <converge> thank you very much
[01:41] <BIAF> yes, it not run slow as you think, i founf it very fasy photoshop
[01:41] <Warbo> fredsa: Come to think of it yes. I was only thinking of the spec needed to get Windows up in a VM, and forgot that PhotoShop is greedy too
[01:41] <maxkelley> converge: no problem, just trying to help spead humanity.
[01:41] <soccio> Hi
[01:41] <maxkelley> to others..
[01:41] <Sanne> converge, have a look at blender www.blender3d.org
[01:42] <maxkelley> after all, "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word that means 'humanity to others".
[01:42] <soccio> Could you tell me how to downgrade a whole set of packages? (Gnome 2.4.2 to 2.4.1)
[01:42] <BIAF> i think nero also works under wine
[01:42] <maxkelley> I've been reading the printed cd's too much..
[01:42] <maxkelley> switchclear: heyyy, switchy!
[01:42] <Warbo> Blender's interface takes A LOT of getting used to (but I hear that it is very powerful when you master it, which I haven't yet)
[01:42] <neopsyche> ubuntu was started by shuttleworth right?
[01:42] <switchclear> maxkelley: hey, someone told me you hung out here :-O
[01:42] <converge> so I will play games still under windows
[01:42] <maxkelley> switchclear: I got scared for a bit when I saw my own ip addr... *shudder*
[01:43] <Sanne> Warbo, yes, it's insane at first, but insanely awesome if you keep at it ;)
[01:43] <ompaul> neopsyche, correct, however if you want to talk about non support then you need to move to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <maxkelley> I was about to say, "Hey, fellow rochesterian!" when i noticed it was my ip :P hah
[01:43] <Warbo> Sanne: I have made 1 pic so far, but I am great in the GIMP (so I usually cheat and do crappy stuff in Blender then touch it up after)
[01:43] <neopsyche> anyone?
[01:43] <converge> is there games for ubuntu
[01:43] <neopsyche> oh ok
[01:44] <maxkelley> I am confused by the gimp..
[01:44] <linux_user400354> does anyone use Ekiga softphone?
[01:44] <maxkelley> er, no, blender.
[01:44] <soccio> Could you tell me how to downgrade a whole set of packages? (Gnome 2.4.2 to 2.4.1)
[01:44] <Warbo> converge: Quite a few. You can even run Windows games (your machine will handle them well)
[01:44] <Sanne> Warbo, that's fine, just use what's best for the job :)
[01:44] <switchclear> converge: yup. even unreal tournament can be made to run
[01:44] <maxkelley> linux_user400354: try wengophone.. it's more like skype.
[01:44] <ompaul> neopsyche, second time, correct, however if you want to talk about non support then you need to move to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:44] <billybennett> What's a good program to make Audio CDs from MP3 ???
[01:44] <switchclear> billybennett: grip or ripperx
[01:44] <maxkelley> ompaul's laying down the law :)
[01:44] <linux_user400354> maxkelley, if you like skype, why do you use wengophone?
[01:44] <soccio> billybennett, serpetine and also amarok
[01:44] <maxkelley> linux_user400354: oh, no, I don't.. I use skype.
[01:45] <fredsa> neospyche, shuttleworth did start ubuntu
[01:45] <converge> do u I have to install firewalls with ubuntu ?
[01:45] <Sanne> maxkelley, I recommend doing the first tutorial from the blender guide in the wiki. After that you'll know a lot more.
[01:45] <maxkelley> just suggesting it :)
[01:45] <s1gnal> I just installed a server only install of 6.06 and I am having a problem with the network. When I have it set to DHCP, it starts up on its own at boottime, I set it to a static IP and now I have to issue ifup eth0 to get the network up. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16236
[01:45] <billybennett> I tried k3b but it wont convert, am I missing something soccio, switchclear
[01:45] <Warbo> linux_user400354: I set it up on my Dad's computer to start at login, but now I can't set it up on my end because of port forwarding stuff
[01:45] <maxkelley> Sanne: thanks :) I can put in a monkey, and change its hair colour... that's about it :)
[01:45] <linux_user400354> Warbo, what's wrong with port fowarding?
[01:45] <Sanne> maxkelley, heh. Want to have a link to that tut?
[01:45] <BIAF> converge : http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php
[01:46] <fredsa> does anyone know where I should start troubleshooting my soundcard? It worked before, so I know it's supported
[01:46] <Warbo> linux_user400354: I can't get the damn router to forward ports, even thjough the rules are there. It's not that important at the moment though
[01:46] <BIAF> converge : wine also gets lots of games runing
[01:46] <linux_user400354> Warbo, Did you set up skype or wengophone? I am confused.
[01:46] <Warbo> linux_user400354: Ekiga
[01:47] <Daveyboy> How do I know which instance of perl bugzilla is using?
[01:47] <amonkey> what's ubuntu's favorite laptop?
[01:47] <Warbo> amonkey: Mine?
[01:47] <linux_user400354> Warbo, I had the same problem. I think I found out why. There's a firewall in the modem that blocks some ports, so I had to use a port with a really high number to host webpages. Also some isps block some ports for hosting.
[01:47] <fredsa> amonkey, I think all the big players are well supported
[01:48] <Warbo> amonkey: Well, I have one that's dismantled and one with no power supply. I don;t think Ubuntu would like them
[01:48] <converge> what is the advanteges of ubuntu ? when you think about windows xp..could you tell me a few advateges
[01:48] <BIAF> its free
[01:48] <linux_user400354> converge, easier to install software
[01:48] <Warbo> converge: Loads of programs are built for ubuntu and can be installed with a few clicks (for free as well)
[01:49] <HellDragon> i wonder why the apt-get progress bar looks like a d**k  : [[01:49] <aro-ron> howdy all, any one have any ideas why I cant get my new SATA drive to mount in Dapper?
[01:49] <amonkey> fredsa, i was reading about sony's sz and apparently even windows isn't well supported. just wanted see if there was a clear favorite
[01:49] <Warbo> HellDragon: Is root not using your theme?
[01:49] <aro-ron> I formatted it as FAT32 so I canuse it with both XP and Ubuntu
[01:49] <fredsa> converge, depends what you want out of an OS. It's open source, transparent, friendly, but adobe don't release photoshop for it :p
[01:49] <HellDragon> Warbo, ?
[01:49] <aro-ron> but I cant seem to get it to mount in Ubuntu
[01:49] <Warbo> HellDragon: "sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes" should sort it out
[01:49] <moonlite> converge: spyware, adware and viruses are mostly non existant
[01:49] <HellDragon> ???????????? Warbo
[01:49] <swim> is there a winamp application for linux?
[01:50] <Warbo> HellDragon: Wait a sec, I'm thinking Syanptic, sorry
[01:50] <s1gnal> I just installed a server only install of 6.06 and I am having a problem with the network. When I have it set to DHCP, it starts up on its own at boottime, I set it to a static IP and now I have to issue ifup eth0 to get the network up. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16236
[01:50] <valehru> whats the best method to connect to a vpn in linux?
[01:50] <valehru> !vpn
[01:50] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[01:50] <fredsa> amonkey, my very old compaq runs almost perfectly (at least it did until this evening), so I'll be going with them again next time around
[01:50] <fredsa> amonkey, but ymmv, as they say ;)
[01:50] <kolaje> what's a good program for a 56k modem in console mode?
[01:50] <maxkelley> swim: xmms
[01:50] <moonlite> converge: linux is generally thought og to be more secure than windows
[01:50] <switchclear> swim: xmms is similar, so is beep-media-player
[01:51] <converge> do I have to install a firewall for ubuntu ?
[01:51] <moonlite> converge: no, most certainly not
[01:51] <Warbo> swim: XMMS ( and I think BMP) can use WinAmp skins
[01:51] <swim> switchclear: do they do video streaming as well?
[01:51] <converge> and everythi
[01:51] <converge> and everythin for ubuntu is free ?
[01:51] <switchclear> swim: they do not do vid no, you should use other applications for that
[01:51] <maxkelley> swim: vlc does vidstreaming.
[01:51] <soccio> converge, usually not. But if you want to be even more secure you can install firestarter with a few clicks
[01:51] <maxkelley> converge: pretty muhc, yes.
[01:51] <moonlite> it is free (libre) and for free (gratis)
[01:51] <valehru> Warbo, bmp can use winamp skins as well
[01:51] <swim> vlc is being a pain with saltwatermonkey
[01:51] <maxkelley> much
[01:51] <switchclear> converge: there is already a firewall with linux, but if you want a front end, you can install firestarter
[01:51] <fredsa> converge, everything in the official repositories, yes. And of course you can compile any open source app for it
[01:52] <aMit--> Hello, I'm having this problem with the audio, I can hear the sound in the log in window when I start my computer but inside ANY user, it doesn't detect any audio device, audio worked fine with windows (btw I'm quite new to linux :P).
[01:52] <linux_user400354> does anyone use a 56k modem on ubuntu?
[01:52] <Warbo> converge: Ubuntu comes with messengers, openoffice, GIMP and loads of other stuff. You can usually keep most things as they are and be OK (although you need to add mp3, avi, etc. support because those are patented)
[01:52] <maxkelley> linux_user400354: it's not a winmodem, is it?
[01:52] <kyncani> s1gnal: your eth0 iface should be "auto" too
[01:52] <fredsa> aMit, what do you mean, it doesn't detect?
[01:53] <s1gnal> where do I insert that?
[01:53] <kolaje> linux_user400354 yes i do
[01:53] <linux_user400354> maxkelly, i mean any kind of 56k modem. what kind do you have?
[01:53] <HellDragon> you really dont deserve me
[01:53] <maxkelley> linux_user400354: oh, I don't I just thought you needed help with one
[01:53] <kyncani> s1gnal: like "auto lo", man interfaces for details
[01:53] <aMit--> When I get in the audio options, I'm trying to choose a device on the bottom of the window and the list is empty, when I'm trying to play something nothing happens...
[01:53] <kolaje> i use a winmodem
[01:54] <maxkelley> kolaje: wow, you must have been lucky to find drivers :)
[01:54] <larson9999> linux_user400354: i have several external modems i use when i need to for linux.
[01:54] <linux_user400354> kolaje, is web browsing slower than windows xp? it was for me.
[01:54] <kolaje> i use a smartlink and i installed the sl-something-daemon and sl-something-source
[01:54] <kolaje> much faster actually
[01:54] <kolaje> but i'm pissed that pppconfig and pon and what not doesn't work in console mode
[01:54] <converge> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[01:54] <s0nix> anyone have the software point2play......deb ?
[01:55] <kolaje> it only activates the modem in the graphic mode right when i connect, otherwise ubuntu doesn't know i have it installed
[01:55] <larson9999> i don't notice a difference in speed between windows and linux.
[01:55] <aMit--> Also the volume control in the top panel has a red X on it
[01:55] <converge> which thpe of cd I must chose here ?
[01:55] <linux_user400354> larson9999, was the web browsing slow?
[01:55] <Warbo> kolaje: Only problem I found with SL modem is that it can't tell when the line gets disconnected (so it can't automatically reconnect)
[01:55] <converge> which type of ubuntu ?
[01:55] <switchclear> larson9999: try doing some really intensive multitasking operations and ull notice the difference
[01:55] <converge> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[01:55] <kolaje> Warbo: does your modem work in console, or did you try?
[01:55] <aro-ron> I need some help getting my SATA drive to mount on linux, anyone avalible to give me a handreal quick?
[01:55] <Warbo> kolaje: I made it start at boot (but this was in RedHat 9 ages ago)
[01:55] <larson9999> linux_user400354: using the 56k modem?  well, i use it to dial in for work and not surf.  haven't surfed with 56k in years
[01:55] <linux_user400354> larson9999, did you use the drivers that came with ubuntu or some other ones?
[01:56] <maxkelley> aro-ron: head to system > administration > disks and drives
[01:56] <maxkelley> or something like that.
[01:56] <switchclear> larson9999: the problem is ubuntu is rather bloated, like windows, so its harder to see. if you ran gentoo linux vs windows you can actually make wine, the windows emulator, run windows coder faster than windows itself!
[01:56] <larson9999> linux_user400354: just stock
[01:56] <kolaje> Warbo: i really don't like x so i'm trying to find anyway to start it in console
[01:56] <s1gnal> kyncani: that fixed it tyvm!!!
[01:56] <moonlite> converge: desktop
[01:56] <aro-ron> maxkelley: ok there
[01:56] <Warbo> converge: You are probably best with the regular "ubuntu" (rather than kubuntu or xubuntu) but you will need the "alternate" install disc if you are using a Sagem modem
[01:56] <neopsyche> ?
[01:56] <fredsa> converge, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[01:56] <moonlite> converge: the server cd is only for servers
[01:56] <valehru> vpn connection client anyone?
[01:56] <maxkelley> switchclear: ubuntu, stripped, is just debian. if you get rid of horrid gnome, you should be fine.
[01:56] <kyncani> s1gnal: np :)
[01:57] <linux_user400354> larson9999, why would you dial in instead of using vnc or some other software?
[01:57] <Warbo> Which is the alternate disc?
[01:57] <larson9999> switchclear: well, if you remove the bloat from windows it's still similar.  i'm an old salt and have heard the debate forever.  for what i do, i don't notice a difference
[01:57] <aMit--> Does anyone have an idea how to fix my problem? (log in screen has audio but whole system doesn't...)
[01:57] <switchclear> maxkelley: ubuntu is abit more than debian+gnome, otherwise you should just be installing debian
[01:57] <larson9999> linux_user400354: the client didn't want to give us vpn access
[01:57] <Warbo> I think converge will need to use it or a dvd (sagem modem has no driver on livecd)
[01:57] <maxkelley> switchclear: yeah, true.
[01:57] <larson9999> linux_user400354: they did just recently though
[01:57] <blackline> i got some spyware or so... when ive restarted my computer i have a universitys homepage as startpage, i got rid of it first by removing the firefox profile, i also deleted .firefox just in case. now when ive restarted the page is back. what should i do?
[01:58] <switchclear> larson9999: like i said, high load and linux will run faster, even if only because you can strip it down more if you know what your doing.
[01:58] <Warbo> blackline: That is not spyware
[01:58] <converge> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[01:58] <converge> I am downloading this than
[01:58] <Warbo> blackline: Are you using a different laucher for Firefox?
[01:58] <moonlite> switchclear: i'm guessing wine runs just as fast in ubuntu as in gentoo
[01:58] <switchclear> larson9999: my ubuntu boxes run 2x faster than windows
[01:58] <larson9999> switchclear: like i said, you can do the same thing with windows if you know what you're doing.
[01:58] <aMit--> anyone?
[01:59] <neopsyche> does anyoen here know of any gopher sites?
[01:59] <maxkelley> PlaySkool = widow
[01:59] <switchclear> moonlite: no, gentoo is highly optimised for the individual processor - ive seen the beach marks, they are amazing
[01:59] <Warbo> blackline: (it happened to me, but I forget the launcher I was using. Maybe GDesklets)
[01:59] <maxkelley> ohmygod, what a horrid spelling.
[01:59] <blackline> Warbo - what you mean with launcher?
[01:59] <five_laptop> anyone know how to use command line ftp to recursively get all directories?
[01:59] <converge> it says 7 hours remaining :(
[01:59] <converge> I will wait
[01:59] <fredsa> aMit, no, but I'm having a similar problem myself
[01:59] <moonlite> switchclear: please show them to me
[01:59] <aMit--> aw
[01:59] <switchclear> larson9999: i disagree, there is a certain level when it becomes hard. since linux is ultimately the kernel, you can never pull windows down to the same level, even if you strip every unnessicary binary
[01:59] <LjL> switchclear: this channel is highly unoptimized for offtopic discussions, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic though :-)
[01:59] <switchclear> moonlite: ok, hold up
[01:59] <LjL> moonlite: too
[01:59] <aMit--> very odd
[02:00] <Warbo> blackline: I think that I got that problem with GDesklets or something like that. The starter entry had the dodgy homepage in it
[02:00] <maxkelley> switchclear: gnarly beach marks, duuude!
[02:00] <blackline> Warbo - yes, then i guess thats the deal, the starterbar..
[02:00] <jrattner1> QUESTION: If i install the package "grub-splashimages" how do i choose one
[02:00] <aMit--> !nvidia
[02:00] <blackline> Warbo - of course. it came after installing gdesklets
[02:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <Warbo> blackline: Yes, I thiought it was. Remove the starter from the bar then drag Firefox out of the menu onto it
[02:00] <kyncani> jrattner1: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: they are in /boot/grub/splashscreens iirc
[02:00] <switchclear> moonlite: you have to understand that windows generally is optimised to run as fast as gentoo.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> !grub
[02:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[02:01] <moonlite> switchclear: heh, sure :)
[02:01] <switchclear> wine on gentoo benchmarks: http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5
[02:01] <gnomefreak> on the last link will tell you how to do it
[02:01] <Warbo> blackline: (I forgot about that since I use Epiphany, but the package really should be fixed)
[02:01] <blackline> ok. cause thats what ive done. the icon on there is a copy from my gnome menu
[02:01] <jrattner1> kyncani, i choose the one I want in men.lst right?
[02:01] <aro-ron> Question: how can I go about getting my SATA drive to mount on Ubuntu? I just got it today, and have it partitioned and formatted with FAT32 already, and it works great in XP. (I dual boot) But Ubuntu wont mount it. ANy ideas?
[02:01] <larson9999> switchclear: at a certain level yes.  happens to be a level i don't care about.  you take to a low enough level and you're comparing dos to linux.  and even then you can make dos be pretty similar.  however, none of that takes away from the fact that linux rocks.
[02:01] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, should I untar them all in that directory?
[02:01] <kolaje> Warbo: would it take much explaination to help me configure the sl modem to work in console?
[02:01] <Warbo> aro-ron: It will be /dev/sdX (X=a,b,c.......)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: if you got it from apt no need to
[02:02] <moonlite> switchclear: and where are the ubuntu benchmmarks?
[02:02] <kyncani> jrattner1: yep
[02:02] <aro-ron> gnomefreak: I tried that, it still wont mount
[02:02] <maxkelley> moonlite: bottom of the list ;P
[02:02] <Warbo> kolaje: I have really forgotten how to do it sorry (I don;t know if I even still have it)
[02:02] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, what do you mean no need to? there all tarballs in that directory
[02:02] <gnomefreak> aro-ron: huh?
[02:02] <switchclear> moonlite: there are none, but if you made your own you'd see they are much slower than those.
[02:02] <protocol1> this laptop cooler from antec rules
[02:02] <kolaje> warbo; understood
[02:02] <fredsa> aro-ron, what's the command you are using to mount?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: no you dont need to untar them if your in /boot/grub/splashscreens
[02:03] <aro-ron> at the moment I have tried the nautilus mount command, and the disk manager command. I dont know the proper command (yet) for the term
[02:03] <moonlite> maxkelley: i dont see any
[02:03] <moonlite> switchclear: that's just random assertions, show me some fatcs
[02:03] <moonlite> facts
[02:03] <aro-ron> I have only had ubuntu on here for about 3 weeks
[02:03] <Warbo> aro-ron: "sudo mount /dev/PARTITIONNAME /WHEREVER/YOU/WANT/TO/MOUNT/IT"
[02:03] <switchclear> moonlite: its simple common sense...
[02:03] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, lets say I want to use fiesta.xpm.gz that is located in /boot/grub/splashimages, I just specificy the gzip file in menu.lst?
[02:03] <LjL> moonlite, switchclear: no, rather show me some ontopic conversation or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <LjL> really
[02:04] <aro-ron> warbo: thank you muchly, trying that now
[02:04] <moonlite> ok, im sorry
[02:04] <Warbo> aro-ron: The drive will probably be /dev/sda1, and the first partition on it will be /dev/sda1
[02:04] <gnomefreak> jrattner1: the path to it yes  look at the grub link ubotu gave above and just change the path to yours
[02:04] <jrattner1> kyncani, how do i specify it in menu.lst
[02:04] <maxkelley> moonlite: i was kidding :)
[02:04] <fredsa> aro-ron, warbo: I think you'll need a -t vfat switch in there as well
[02:04] <Warbo> aro-ron: Sorry, the drive will be sda
[02:04] <jrattner1> gnomefreak, k
[02:04] <blackline> Warbo - i erased the starter, added a new one thats a copy from my gnomebar, still same problem. was this how you meant i should do?
[02:04] <LjL> moonlite: sorry for being harsh, but i already suggested #ubuntu-offtopic once and have been ignored
[02:04] <aro-ron> ok that helps alot, thanks
[02:04] <Warbo> fredsa: I have found automatic detection works well (even for loopback these days)
[02:05] <kyncani> jrattner1: follow grub's manual
[02:05] <Warbo> blackline: Yes. Hmm. Right click it and edit it, see what is in the "command" line
[02:05] <aro-ron> fredsa: where should the vfat switch go in syntax? (noob alert)
[02:05] <maxkelley> alright, my eyes hurt. bbl.
[02:05] <moonlite> Ljl: you weren't harsh. #ubuntu is one of the friendliest places i know of (credss)
[02:05] <Warbo> aro-ron: Anywhere after mount
[02:05] <aro-ron> ok
[02:05] <fredsa> Warbo, I only mention it cos I had to use it today :p
[02:05] <LjL> aro-ron: "-t vfat" i think you mean. like "sudo mount -t vfat bla blah"
[02:05] <smev9> is there a viewer for msoffice/works files for linux
[02:06] <switchclear> smev9: yea check out open office
[02:06] <LjL> smev9: openofifce and koffice can open office documents
[02:06] <switchclear> smev9: also abiword works
[02:06] <Warbo> fredsa: I find "Please specify filesystem type" tends to mean the disc is knackered
[02:06] <smev9> thanks, also the .wps from works?
[02:06] <fredsa> warbo, that's reassuring! :p
[02:06] <LjL> smev9: i don't think so, but i don't really know
[02:07] <Warbo> fredsa: I mean that if I try it with -f option after it usually gets an IO error, but if the -t option works then you are fine
[02:07] <kyncani> jrattner1: the line should look like this: splashimage=(hd0,0)/some/path/myfile.xpm.gz
[02:08] <jvai> anybody use john the ripper? is it just to b used against unix pw's?
[02:08] <blackline> Warbo - thanks for your help. Now its fixed. That thing really should be fixed..
[02:08] <fredsa> warbo, -f means force?
[02:08] <Warbo> smev9: I don't know what the difference between WPS and DOC (the latest one) are. It would be a better world if these formats were documented so we could all go on content and format, rahter than filename
[02:08] <Warbo> blackline: I will submit a bug to launchpad
[02:08] <theBishop> the power meter applet is completely useless for me, does anyone share my opinion?
[02:09] <switchclear> jvai: yes, and its not just unix pws, its just certain types of hash algorithms
[02:09] <jvai> i think the 'john" in ubuntu repos is outdated
[02:09] <LjL> Warbo: it's be a better world if users didn't leave the channels right after making questions, too ;-)
[02:09] <Warbo> fredsa: I meant -t both times, sorry
[02:09] <jvai> ooooh ok ty @ switch
[02:09] <switchclear> jvai: it is, you should install the distribution offered on their website
[02:09] <Warbo> LjL: Ah, that's what I get for having to stare at the keyboard while I type
[02:09] <jvai> what about hydra? is it bettr than john/
[02:10] <blackline> Warbo - Ok, where is that? Cause there are looots of bugs that should be fixed. In starterbar especially
[02:10] <fredsa> well, bed time for me. g'night all
[02:10] <aro-ron> warbo: ok back again, how do I get it to mount to the media folder with the rest of my drives? it says the mount point dosent exsist
[02:10] <LjL> Warbo: "apt-cache search typing tutor" ;-P
[02:10] <blackline> Warbo - For example, when you have the "jumpyness" activated on the icons, then its very buggy. starts when im not clickin, icons moving around when hovering over etc.
[02:10] <theBishop> the power applet rarely estimates "Time Left" correctly, and sometimes the icon doesn't reflect Battery/AC status correctly
[02:11] <converge> after I install this file ?= what must I do to use it ?
[02:11] <jvai> i found 'THC's hydra in hoary's repos
[02:11] <converge> how could I install that to CD ?
[02:11] <converge> do I need a program for it or just copy iso file to CD ?
[02:12] <DShepherd> converge: right clicking the iso and selecting burn works fine.. no extra program needed
[02:12] <blackline> Warbo - Anyhow, while your at it you could report that also, if your up to it. Now Im of to bed. Cu.
[02:12] <converge> okay
[02:14] <linux_user400354> what is the difference between apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean?
[02:14] <converge> Do I need a program to dual boot ?
[02:14] <linux_user400354> converge, ubuntu comes with everything you need for a dual boot
[02:14] <linux_user400354> converge, you need grub bootloader
[02:15] <supermistry> I'm having a problem with the Add/Remove Applications. Whenever I try to click on one of the items to install it (any item), I get an error saying that the software isn't available on any channel and that the application might not support my system architecture. Does any one have any idea how to fix that?
[02:15] <converge> I will delete windows and install ubuntu that drive..after that I will install windows to other part of hardisk
[02:16] <gnomefreak> converge: no other way around
[02:16] <Daveyboy> when i type "where is libgd" and it returns ":libgd", what does this mean?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> converge: install windows on the drive first
[02:16] <Warbo> aro-ron: Those things I put in the command were meant to be replaced :) Just make a folder in /media for example "sudo mkdir /media/SATADrive" then mount to it with "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/SATADrive"
[02:16] <converge> it is already installed
[02:16] <DShepherd> converge: listen to gnomefreek
[02:16] <DShepherd> hehe
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Daveyboy: locate libgd
[02:17] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: srry,, i meant gnomefreak
[02:17] <Warbo> converge: Windows stops Linux from booting, so it is easier to put Linux on last
[02:17] <aro-ron> warbo: its ok, I got it, its mounted, now I just need to figure out how to get it to show up onthe desktop and places menu
[02:17] <gnomefreak> converge: you said you were gonna install ubuntu over windows than install windows on other drive
[02:17] <Daveyboy> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:17] <runes> What do I do with Postfix when it wants to be configured (Lamp directions do not mention this in the wiki)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> converge: make sure ubuntu is the last installed
[02:17] <supermistry> anyone know how to fix my add/remove applications error?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> supermistry: does synaptic work? what errors?
[02:18] <Warbo> aro-ron: That is to do with the gnome-volume-manager (which I don't understand at all) BTW, you can add a new line to /etc/fstab (gksudo gedit /etc/fstab) to have the partition mounted at boot
[02:18] <converge> I tried to install ubuntu before when I have cd of it...but when I tried to open my computer it gaved me error
[02:18] <converge> and I even had to install windows again
[02:18] <nf4> i am haveing trouble trying to change the bios resilution i have read the wiki on resilution a few times and tried every thing they talked about  but  without any luck
[02:18] <linux_user400354> converge, what error?
[02:18] <nf4> the resilution changes when i get to the login screen
[02:19] <chiche-0_o> hola a todos
[02:19] <Warbo> converge: You can shrink Windows, or reinstall it if you don't mind doing that, and make it smaller, then install Ubuntu in the free space that you left
[02:19] <converge> I dont remember but..maybe cant boot from the drive like that
[02:19] <converge> I dont really remember
[02:19] <gnomefreak> !fixres > nf4
[02:19] <spider-bot> how long has ubuntu been around?
[02:19] <supermistry> gnomefreak: I don't know what synaptic is. The error is that whenever i click on an item to install it (i want to get NetworkManager), i get an error saying it might not work with my system architecture
[02:19] <Warbo> spider-bot: Since 2004 I think
[02:20] <gnomefreak> supermistry: if in gnome system>admin>synaptics package manager  btw what arch are you using?
[02:20] <Warbo> spider-bot: The release numbers are the year and month (6.06=June 2006)
[02:20] <nf4> i read that guide a few times it seems the only thing that it mentions about bios resilution is for intel based computers i have amd/nvidia
[02:20] <gnomefreak> 10/2004
[02:20] <Daveyboy> "can't test without sucessful make" what does this mean?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> nf4: read teh link ubotu sent you
[02:21] <gnomefreak> s/teh/the
[02:21] <Fee^> means you tried to 'make test' without doing a 'make' and succeeding
[02:21] <nf4> yes i been reading and rereading it all day
[02:21] <ding> how did ubuntu become the most popular distribution seemingly overnight?
[02:21] <mnrdknn> hey i'm having kernel panic on kernel 2.6.15-25 (Dapper).. I have to use the breezy's kernel (i dist-upgraded).. i get the same error when running the install cd.. what should I do?
[02:21] <runes> ding probably because it just "works" you don't need a computer science degree to get it installed
[02:22] <DShepherd> ding .. I dont think it did it over night
[02:22] <nf4> ding becouse it works
[02:22] <runes> ding whiel there are some snags in the xwindows config for video cards, some sound card config glitches overal I give it an 8 on 10
[02:23] <nf4> well except some one seemd to replace xscreensaver for gnomescreensaver which is a bad thing but it can be fixed
[02:23] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: tell me the output of df -h
[02:23] <Sanne> ding, because people like the philosophy behind it (humanity, being nice to newbies, and all that...) ;)
[02:23] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire,  do i paste it on pvt?
[02:23] <runes> Sanne do you have a few mins to help me out?
[02:23] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: you can pm me if you
[02:23] <Sanne> runes, sure
[02:23] <supermistry> gnomefreak: I just tried refreshing the list and things look like they might be working. So, I'll ask again in a couple of minutes if i need. I'm using an IBM T21, currently trying to get the wireless to work.
[02:24] <RadiantFire> want I am interested in is the line from /boot
[02:24] <runes> Sanne I completely removed the Lamp portions
[02:24] <converge> I have to sleep now...thanks for answers
[02:24] <converge> cu
[02:24] <nf4> i think that ubuntu has the greatest documention out of any distro's
[02:24] <RadiantFire> nf4: you'd  e wrong
[02:24] <nf4> fc5 is second imo
[02:24] <runes> Sanne I reboted to be sure (yeah I'm still stuck with the windows mentality) and followed the Wiki instructions, however it now wants me to configure Postfix?
[02:24] <Sanne> runes, ok
[02:25] <RadiantFire> nf4: take a gander at gentoo's documentation sometimes
[02:25] <runes> Sanne and I
[02:25] <RadiantFire> it borders on obscene how in depth it is
[02:25] <nf4> i have read that meany times
[02:25] <runes> Sanne and I am not ashamed to admit that that is way over my head
[02:25] <nf4> but i still think that ubuntu's better
[02:25] <nf4> well better aimed at n00bs
[02:25] <nf4> i had gentoo installed but it would pick and choose when i could use my nic
[02:26] <RadiantFire> nf4: if one has an analytical mind it should not matter
[02:26] <RadiantFire> hello nalioth
[02:26] <Psy-X> hi
[02:26] <alex_> Hello, does anyone know how to set up crtl-click?
[02:26] <nalioth> RadiantFire: hi
[02:26] <Sanne> runes, hmmm, if I remember correctly, this postfix nagging also annoyed me. I may give bad advice now, but I turned off postfix in services-admin (because it was well over my head also)
[02:26] <nf4> i dont know why poeple like gentoo over ubuntu
[02:26] <neopsyche> does anyone have an FTP site i can download apps from?
[02:27] <RadiantFire> nf4: care 2 take this to offtopic
[02:27] <jvai> this is nice
[02:27] <nf4> is there a ubuntu off topic?
[02:27] <Sanne> runes, if you plan to make the lamp server available to the outside, turning off postfix might be a bad idea, though (it must be there for a reason...)
[02:27] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire,  i can't pm you.. heh
[02:27] <runes> Sanne, while it would be nice to have an smtp server running (for the forms on the website) I'm concerned about having spammers takeing advantage of it
[02:27] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: ok, lemme ask you a question
[02:27] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: did you make a seperate /boot partition
[02:28] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire, no
[02:28] <Sanne> runes, well, I use my lamp just for local web development, I even configured apache to only listen to localhost, so I think (hope) that I don't need postfix.
[02:28] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: what is the kernel panic exactly?
[02:28] <Daveyboy> when typing /usr/bin/perl -MCPAN -e 'install "GD"' get "make retuned bad status, installation seems impossible"
[02:29] <mnrdknn> not syncing.. i got that running the installation cd too
[02:29] <Sanne> runes, so far, my computer didn't explode ;)
[02:29] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: exactly what hardware do you have?
[02:29] <mnrdknn> so i dist-upgraded to dapper from breezy.. and i get the same error when booting the new kernels
[02:29] <runes> Sanne while I am about to get flamed for this here it goes...the idea is to have a php portal running for alternative energy..
[02:29] <spikeb> php as alternative energy?
[02:29] <DShepherd> the keyboard model says unknown in under my keyboard prefs...I did a reconfigure of Xserver and it pick it up.. but my keyboard prefs are still saying model unknown. as a result I have no... layout options.. and seemngly .. no layouts
[02:29] <spikeb> or a portal with info about alt energy?
[02:29] <runes> Sanne untill I fully understand how to code in php myself I am goign to use phpnuke
[02:29] <Sanne> runes, what's wrong about this?
[02:30] <DShepherd> how can fix this problem
[02:30] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire, what do you want to know? motherboard? processor? what?
[02:30] <Sanne> runes, ah, you mean the phpnuke part? hehe
[02:30] <runes> Sanne but I am not sure if it is necessary to have postfix
[02:30] <runes> Sanne yes
[02:30] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: can you pastebin the last few lines of output from the kernel panic
[02:30] <kolaje> Warbo:  I got the modem working with "wvdial".  I didn't even know it exsisted
[02:30] <Sanne> runes, I think postfix might be there to deliver system messages. Not sure, though.
[02:30] <kolaje> for some reason it knew the device was there, where ppp didn't..
[02:31] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire, how could i do that? i have to reboot it every time i get the error
[02:31] <RadiantFire> mnrdknn: i'ma pm with you
[02:31] <RadiantFire> the DCC chat just appeared for me
[02:31] <Warbo> kolaje: If you were only searching for a CLI dialer then I would have said wvdial. I thought you wanted some SL-specific advice :)
[02:31] <mnrdknn> i don't get any significant messages..
[02:31] <runes> Sanne I think the Lamp instructions will need a bit more modification
[02:31] <Sanne> runes, if I may suggest: you might want to look into drupal for an alternative community system.
[02:31] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire, ok then
[02:32] <kolaje> Warbo: *shaked head* I'm so bad at explaining myself (what's cli?) something that has to do with console?
[02:32] <supermistry> Weird... I justinstalled the Network Manager from the Add/Remove Applications pane, it has installed, but I can't find it. Any help?
[02:32] <Sanne> runes, doesn't php run now?
[02:32] <runes> Sanne I did it looks good however it is mising a few components that I need
[02:32] <Warbo> kolaje: Command Line Interface/Interpreter
[02:32] <kolaje> Warbo: thanks
[02:32] <Sanne> runes, ok (re drupal)
[02:32] <runes> Sanne stil working on it I will knwo in about 2 mins
[02:32] <Sanne> runes, ok
[02:32] <Warbo> Just submitted a bug for gdesklets-data
[02:32] <mnrdknn> RadiantFire, send me a chat request
[02:32] <kolaje> Warbo: (in linux and others like gentoo I try and sound smart, because they don't like helping newbs)
[02:33] <kolaje> cli is a good one
[02:33] <DShepherd> :-( no one willing to help me?
[02:34] <Warbo> kolaje: CLI and GUI are commonly used terms. "Is there a GUI for my dialer? I use wvdial in CLI"
[02:34] <snoops> Hey umm, is there a RDP server for linux? I really like connecting to my machine from work, and vnc just uses too much bandwidth..
[02:34] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, what's your problem.
[02:34] <Warbo> snoops: Have you tried NX?
[02:34] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, this is starting to sound like a help desk
[02:34] <snoops> nx?
[02:34] <Warbo> !nx
[02:34] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: the keyboard model says unknown in under my keyboard prefs...I did a reconfigure of Xserver and it pick it up.. but my keyboard prefs are still saying model unknown. as a result I have no... layout options.. and seemngly .. no layouts
[02:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about nx
[02:34] <Warbo> !freenx
[02:34] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:35] <snoops> oo, sounds hopeful Warbo
[02:35] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: isnt what its supposed to be... but its a room not a desk
[02:35] <Warbo> snoops: Never used anything like that myself though :)
[02:35] <snoops> it sucks how much noticably slower vnc is compared to rdp though
[02:35] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, do you have the keyboard prefs (System > Prefs. > Keyboard Prefs.)
[02:36] <void^> hrm. linux+laptop behaviour changes with every 2nd kernel release or so. this time my touchpad stops working properly when a usb disk is plugged in (even when uhci_hcd isn't loaded)
[02:36] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: what do you mean if I have it..? you mean if the little window pops up.. yes it does
[02:36] <Warbo> snoops: There are RDP clients in Ubuntu, but as I say I never use that kind of thing
[02:36] <seanlap> Lets say i SSH to my webserver, log in as root. and then I do the 'who' command and see people I dont want on. how (if possible) do I kill these users?
[02:36] <HBuzacott> DShepherd then goto the Layouts tab and select 'add'
[02:37] <javiolo> hi
[02:37] <yehaozi> who used pam_time?
[02:37] <snoops> oh hmm Warbo.. sorry I should have said machine at work is windows.. that isn't going to change. I use rdesktop in ubuntu and it works great!
[02:37] <Warbo> seanlap: "eject /dev/hdc --really-fast > their face"
[02:37] <javiolo> can anyone help me building freenx for ppc ?
[02:37] <seanlap> Warbo, what will that do?
[02:37] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: I did that.. and that is empty. empty empty empty. wasn that clear in my long description.. if not.. sorry
[02:37] <snoops> the problem is, needing to connect from windows to linux over rdp, because vnc is just too slow and uses too much bandwidth
[02:37] <Warbo> seanlap: Sorry, just a joke "How do I kill these users?"
[02:37] <seanlap> Lol
[02:37] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, what type of keyboard is it?
[02:38] <Warbo> seanlap: If that command worked it would smash the CDROM tray into their face
[02:38] <seanlap> Lol really?
[02:38] <Warbo> seanlap: I made it up, but the syntax is correct :)
[02:38] <Trigger_H> I tried installing the latest ubuntu distro and i get a 'Kernel Panic - not syncing VFS ...' error, what can i do?
[02:38] <seanlap> i mean, does that command eject the cdrom
[02:38] <seanlap> heh
[02:38] <seanlap> ok, so is there a way?
[02:38] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: really I am not sure.. I am typing with it now. it worked before.. but since i messed around with xgl.. its gone all weird
[02:39] <seanlap> i tried 'who -a' and 'kill -9 PID' but that didnt work
[02:39] <five_laptop> anyone know how to use command line ftp to recursively get all directories?
[02:39] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, is it an English Keyboard?
[02:39] <Basilio> Are there circumventor available for linux
[02:39] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: i think its US english
[02:39] <Sanne> five_laptop, man ftp should tell. I'll have a look, sec.
[02:39] <five_laptop> Sanne, thats ok
[02:39] <five_laptop> i'll look... just didnt know if anyone knew offhand
[02:40] <Sanne> five_laptop, ok :)
[02:40] <Arrick> !ubotu
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[02:40] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, in the top of the 'Layouts tab', in the Keyboard Model does it say 'Generic 104-key PC'?
[02:40] <LjL> Basilio: are there what?
[02:40] <LjL> five_laptop: you may want to use wget for that
[02:40] <thechris> i have a question in regards to the amd64 vs x86 version of *buntu.  is the package seleciton, including the 3rd party pacakges, similar between the two archs?
[02:40] <Trigger_H> the error more precisely is 'kernel panic - not syncing: VFS - unable to mount root
[02:40] <Trigger_H> fs on unknown block(0,0).
[02:40] <Trigger_H> crap sorry
[02:40] <seanlap> Warbo, is there a way to kill thier SSH session?
[02:40] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: i guess my explanantion was very bad,, its says unknown
[02:40] <LjL> five_laptop: like with the "--mirror" option. but do read the man
[02:41] <five_laptop> LjL, i'm needing to download the backend contents of a website... can wget read ftp sites?
[02:41] <LjL> five_laptop: yup
[02:41] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, Then type in 'Generic 104-key PC'
[02:41] <five_laptop> aight
[02:41] <five_laptop> i'll look
[02:41] <Sanne> thechris, I think I read that some packages may not be available for amd64, or need some special wizardry to get going.
[02:42] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, without the '
[02:42] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: Can you type in yours? cause i cant type in mine
[02:42] <Arrick> evening all
[02:42] <seanlap> How do I kill SSH users?
[02:42] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, If you can't type in the box then click on the ... and select Generic...
[02:42] <DShepherd> Arrick: good evening
[02:42] <Arrick> stop the ssh server
[02:42] <seanlap> Arrick, besides doing that
[02:42] <LjL> seanlap: perhaps a gun, or a knife. but those would both be illegal in pretty much any country
[02:42] <HBuzacott> Generic 104-key PC
[02:43] <thechris> do not stop sshd over a remote connection...
[02:43] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: my explanation was that bad.... its empty.. nothing is it it
[02:43] <seanlap> I want to kill specific users (NOT LITERALLY)
[02:43] <Sanne> thechris, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[02:43] <javiolo> I cant get the seveaspackage gpg key? any idea ?
[02:43] <runes> Sanne same problem
[02:43] <runes> Sanne if I hit 127.0.0.1
[02:43] <Arrick> seanlap, you want to stop a session then
[02:43] <runes> page displays
[02:43] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, sorry I have to go keep trying in the room :(
[02:43] <seanlap> Arrick: yes
[02:43] <runes> Sanne if I hit 127.0.0.1/testphp.php  it wants to download the file
[02:43] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: thanks anyways
[02:43] <Sanne> runes, what happens with 127.0.0.1
[02:43] <DShepherd> nalioth hey
[02:43] <Arrick> seanlap, restart the ssh server
[02:43] <runes> Sanne if I hit 127.0.0.1 my web page comes up
[02:43] <billybennett> Anyone have any idea why my Ubuntu wont shutdown all the way?
[02:44] <LjL> seanlap: you should have specified ;-P perhaps kill the process concerned, anyway. a pretty drastic solution, yeah...
[02:44] <Trigger_H> can anyone help me, im having installation problems with ubuntu.
[02:44] <Sanne> runes, ok, so we will continue where we left ;)
[02:44] <seanlap> LjL its not the processes. its them living. LOL i just want to know if i can kill thier sorry butts
[02:45] <five_laptop> LjL, working great... thanks!
[02:45] <Sanne> runes, let's check some things for my sake first: could you paste the output of: dpkg -l *php* | grep ^ii
[02:45] <five_laptop> i oughta set up a cron job for that
[02:45] <runes> Sanne ok works for me..I'm documenting the steps as I have another friend in Calgary that has to get his lamp running so I am the test subject
[02:45] <LjL> seanlap: but that starts sounding again like my suggestion... :) give a look here perhaps http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11181.html
[02:45] <runes> Sane yes sec...
[02:46] <nalioth_> DShepherd:  howdy
[02:46] <billybennett> Does anyone know why my laptop doesnt properly shutdown and just sits at a blackscreen when I try and shutdown?!?
[02:46] <Arrick> seanlap, what os are you using?
[02:47] <DShepherd> nalioth_: have you toyed with xgl..? i think it messed up my keyboard layout... not sure though but that's my first guess
[02:48] <runes> Sane not sure where pastebin is
[02:48] <LjL> !pastebin
[02:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:48] <runes> !pastebin
[02:48] <seanlap> Arrick, Ubuntu
[02:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:49] <Arrick> seanlap, which version?
[02:49] <seanlap> Latest
[02:49] <Arrick> breezy or dapper?
[02:49] <Arrick> dapper
[02:49] <seanlap> Yes dapper
[02:49] <seanlap> 6.06 The dapper drake
[02:50] <nalioth_> DShepherd: i stay away from any flavor of eye candy (i'm a console cowboy)
[02:50] <dsl682> hi
[02:50] <runes> Sane http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16239
[02:50] <DShepherd> nalioth_ :-) kool
[02:51] <reiki> My wife just transferred files ovr the LAN, put them in a folder, and burned a CD using Gnomebaker. I'm SO proud of her *sniff!* ... hehehe... she sat at my Ubuntu box and found her way around just fine
[02:51] <reiki> that's a testament
[02:51] <seanlap> Arrick, that solution you sent me is not a solution.
[02:51] <seanlap> How do I kill users
[02:51] <Arrick> ok
[02:51] <dsl682> i cant get breezy to work. just installed it and startx ends up with giving no signal to monitor
[02:51] <Arrick> Im searching right now
[02:51] <Trigger_H> um hi
[02:51] <varsendaggr> how should i encode a video to .swf  ?
[02:51] <poningru> dsl682: any reason you are not using latest stable?
[02:52] <poningru> dsl682: dapper
[02:52] <LjL> seanlap: what about the link i gave you? any useful hint?
[02:52] <jvai> lol! congradz @ reiki
[02:52] <Sanne> runes, looks good. Just to be *really* sure, make sure usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so exists
[02:52] <fishhead> help, my laptop keyboard is having problems, I can't even log in...  The log in screen appears and about 3 letters into my username it stops working... any ideas?
[02:52] <reiki> :)
[02:52] <seanlap> LjL, no thats not usefull
[02:52] <dsl682> i dont have the option to dl and burn dapper, and apt-get dist upgrade doesnt work
[02:52] <seanlap> LjL unless i dont know how to read, then you could just tell me the command :P
[02:52] <LjL> seanlap: i don't *know* the command, i've googled that up
[02:52] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, why doesnt 'kill -9 pid' work
[02:53] <yoshiznit123> oh duh
[02:53] <seanlap> yoshiznit123 It gives me an error
[02:53] <reiki> dsl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:53] <gnomefreak> yoshiznit123: replace pid with the process id number
[02:53] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, what error?
[02:53] <LjL> seanlap: oh, what error?
[02:53] <poningru> dsl682: shipit
[02:53] <poningru> dsl682: where do you live?
[02:53] <runes> Sanne yes it exists
[02:53] <poningru> !shipit
[02:53] <seanlap> LjL yoshiznit123 -bash: kill: (22325) - No such process
[02:53] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[02:53] <brian|lfs> anyone get the new nvidia drivers to work with the 7800 gtx go yet
[02:54] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, did u find the right pid with ps?
[02:54] <seanlap> I did who -a
[02:54] <LjL> seanlap: uh, you sure that was the right process number? i really don't recall ever getting that error when the process existed
[02:54] <dsl682> reiki: i ran that from recovery mode, it installed only three files at 55 megs .. not convinced it upgraded to dapper
[02:54] <dsl682> no errormsgs thp
[02:54] <Sanne> runes, what about the symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to php5.load and php5.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-available?
[02:54] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, try like 'ps aux | grep ssh'
[02:55] <reiki> dsl682, what happens if you run it now? (or did I miss something?)
[02:55] <seanlap> yoshiznit123 that doesnt show hostnames.. so i dont know what one to kill
[02:55] <runes> Sanne nothing there for php
[02:55] <sysdoc> has anyone tried upgrading to Dapper with Suspend2 compiled into the kernel?
[02:56] <seanlap> LjL 'who -a' brings up alot more users than 'ps aux | grep ssh'
[02:56] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, wait you want to kick off people ssh'ing to your server from remote? or you want to stop them ssh'ing out to somewhere
[02:56] <Sanne> runes, but the real files are there in /etc/apache2/mods-available? If so, is anything in them? If so, please paste the contents.
[02:56] <dsl682> reiki: when i startx the same happens. the monitor looks like the pcs off. it still works with damnsmall
[02:56] <seanlap> yoshiznit123 I want to kick them off my server from remote
[02:56] <imc_> Trying to use a Linksys PSUS4 print server to connect to my Samsung - anyone know the trick?
[02:56] <seanlap> Everyone connects remotly
[02:56] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, then killing won't work, cuz their ssh is remote, i think
[02:56] <runes> sanne cgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load  are all I see there
[02:57] <reiki> dsl682, : hmmm... ok I'm afraid I don't know how to help you further
[02:57] <Sanne> runes, where is that?
[02:57] <runes> Sanne, in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[02:57] <dsl682> reiki: thanks anyway
[02:57] <Sanne> runes, look for the real files in /etc/apache2/mods-available
[02:57] <runes> Sanne, ok sec ...
[02:58] <McScruff> anyone know a gnome app that can do nzb's?
[02:58] <yoshiznit123> seanlap, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/servers/46480-logging-other-users-off.html
[02:58] <runes> Sanne,  the php5.conf and php5.load are there
[02:58] <Sanne> runes, can you paste the contents of those files, please?
[02:59] <runes> Sanne, yes
[03:00] <seanlap> yoshiznit123 thats no good because they use the same login
[03:00] <seanlap> oh well i guess i will forget about it
[03:00] <seanlap> thanks
[03:00] <Arrick> seanlap,  kill the priv separation process. or its root parent
[03:00] <LjL> seanlap: my googling cannot find anything that doesn't involve killing a process. see this interesting thread for example http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-May/2143.html
[03:00] <seanlap> Thanks LjL and Arrick and yoshiznit123 Im out.
[03:00] <kinnetica> hi, i just installed ubuntu for the first time today and had a question
[03:01] <kinnetica> i am unable to get quicktime to stream in firefox
[03:01] <runes> Sanne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16240
[03:01] <fishhead> my keyboard stops working once I get to the login screen... it works fine in recovery mode... is there someone out there who could help me out?...
[03:01] <thomas> hey guys, i'm having trouble hibernating my computer. It suspends and shutdown correctly, however, at startup, before even trying to read from swap, the video goes all whacked out. I use fglrx, could this be the reason why its not working correctly?
[03:01] <yoshiznit123> !tell kinnetica about restrictedformats
[03:02] <kinnetica> i already looked at the restricted formats page and installed mplayer, but i'm not sure what to do next
[03:02] <LjL> thomas: are you using Kubuntu by any chance? because that's the kind of behavior i get with it, though not with ubuntu
[03:02] <Sanne> runes, ok, this looks exactly like mine for php4 do, so I guess that's ok then. So we need to get those symlinks going. Try again: sudo a2enmod php5
[03:02] <yoshiznit123> kinnetica, do you have the firefox plugin?
[03:03] <LjL> kinnetica: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-e25afe1552d3a818f60e64143931b2d8e0522267 perhaps
[03:03] <iloveddm> hello ,i install the javaws in ubuntu,but i cannot solve the miscoding,anyone can help me
[03:03] <thomas> LjL i think it functions the same whether or not you're using KDE or Gnome...
[03:03] <kinnetica> i don't have a firefox plugin
[03:03] <kinnetica> that's the problem i think
[03:03] <kinnetica> where would i get it
[03:03] <cookiecaper> Hi. : ) I'm switching to an ATi card tomorrow, running nVidia now. Do I need to do anything, and how crappy can I expect that to be? I've heard bad things about ATi + Linux.
[03:03] <LjL> thomas: well, not for me apparently. besides that gnome actyually has a "hibernation" button, while kde doesn't, so my guess was to run /etc/acpi-support/sleep.sh
[03:04] <LjL> thomas: or rather hibernate.sh in the case of hibernation
[03:04] <Abnix> ubuntu uses grub, right?
[03:04] <thomas> cookiecaper, with fglrx installed, there are no problems. ATI's a good card maker.
[03:04] <LjL> Abnix: right
[03:04] <snoops> I always had lots of troubles getting dri working with ati
[03:04] <Abnix> awesome, going to install it on yet another rig (makes 3) just cuz I can't get that POSD vista to recognise and boot my xp partition...
[03:05] <Abnix> pos*
[03:05] <snoops> very frustrating and annoying, and seems xgl/compiz is having just as many problems with ati
[03:05] <cookiecaper> thomas, ok. I'm just a little worried because Xorg is set to nVidia, and some other stuff might be too ... should I not even run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:05] <thomas> o cookiecaper, i don't know how that would work
[03:05] <thomas> cookiecaper i've never changed hardware using linux
[03:06] <cookiecaper> thomas ok. : ) well I don't imagine that it'd be that hard, Linux is fine changing motherboards, etc.
[03:06] <LjL> cookiecaper: you could run dpkg-reconfigure, or you could modify xorg.conf manually
[03:06] <thomas> cookiecaper what i think you should be doing, is installing everything ati needs before you swap it out
[03:06] <yoshiznit123> cookiecaper, i'm guessing you could just change the driver line in xorg.conf to fglrx
[03:06] <thomas> and to change all of your configuration files before as well and hope it works
[03:06] <Sanne> runes, still there?
[03:06] <cookiecaper> Is fglrx the recommended ATi driver?
[03:06] <runes> yes sorry 1 sec
[03:06] <bioticpro> Anybody here use Nvidia 6200 card on linux?
[03:06] <thomas> yeah fglrx is the one you want especially with newer cards.
[03:07] <Drizzt321> anyone in here using built-in intel GAM 950 graphics? I'm wondering about the desktop performance under linux.
[03:07] <thomas> !anybody
[03:07] <thomas> :l
[03:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:07] <Drizzt321> heh, you actually read my whole question?
[03:08] <thomas> drizz there was somebody before you asking the whole anybody thing as well..
[03:08] <ron_o> he's, errrr, a bot...
[03:08] <Drizzt321> ohh, ok
[03:08] <HLM> ubotu: how do you spell relief ?
[03:08] <snoops> might have better luck posing that question in a forum Drizzt321
[03:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about how do you spell relief ?
[03:08] <Drizzt321> snoops: I was hoping for a faster response :P
[03:08] <LjL> the bot's a bot, but the people invoking it aren't :)
[03:08] <thomas> ahahhaa.
[03:08] <Yonda> Is there anyway I can make ubuntu launch a program when it boots up? Like Banshee so it can share music over a network...?
[03:08] <iloveddm> is anyone has the experience of intall javaws in linux?
[03:08] <ron_o> a bot..tomless pit of ...
[03:08] <thomas> Yonda yeah, in system -> preferences -> session
[03:09] <LjL> Yonda: you should be able to just leave it running when you log off. it should restart next time you log on
[03:09] <LjL> Yonda: that's if you have automatic session saving enabled. which can be done like thomas said
[03:09] <thomas> LjL thats only if you have
[03:09] <thomas> err yeah....
[03:09] <thomas> lol.
[03:09] <KuLover> Hiya, what does it mean when I get "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" during boot?
[03:09] <Yonda> thomas, LjL thanks ill try that :)
[03:09] <iloveddm> how can you solve the problem of miscoding
[03:10] <thomas> Yonda props for using banshee :D
[03:10] <mjr> KuLover, the specified root filesystem isn't really bootable
[03:10] <Yonda> thomas isn't it great :D It even shares to iTunes in Windows
[03:10] <mjr> at least properly
[03:10] <HLM> ubotu: How do I install G!Yach ?
[03:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about how do i install g!yach ?
[03:11] <KuLover> mjr I have just switched motherboard, my last one burnt out, could that be the problem?
[03:11] <thomas> Yonda, pick up CVS and you get podcasting and smart playlists as well, not to mention a cdburning bin to dump all your files to add to a cd.
[03:11] <mjr> KuLover, well an MB problem could have certainly borked your filesystem as well... hard to say from here
[03:11] <smtkr> Has anyone heard of this? I upgraded from breezy to dapper and suddenly, Serpentine Audio CD creator can't burn a cd of mp3s.
[03:12] <KuLover> mjr What would a boot from a CD and repair install do?
[03:12] <thomas> smtkr install all of the gstreamer 0.8 stuff
[03:12] <thomas> dapper ships with 0.10.
[03:12] <Yonda> thomas, awesome ill do that!
[03:12] <HLM> bbl
[03:13] <mjr> KuLover, depends. Recommend copying off any important data and doing a clean install if the filesystem has been properly borked, tho.
[03:14] <thomas> mjr i wouldn't expect any operating system to function correctly after changing motherboards... doesn't work like that. Ubuntu loads drivers depending whats on your motherboard, and switching it up probably messes it up.
[03:14] <thomas> so i think KuLover needs to do a fresh install.
[03:15] <javiolo> Im trying to build freenx from sources but I get an error http://pastebin.ca/68755
[03:15] <Yonda> Is there an easy way to use X over SSH?
[03:15] <kaptengu> If anyone in here is a part of the team developing Ubuntu...I just want to say you are doing a great job! I just switched from Windows to Ubuntu, and now my computer seems much happier.
[03:16] <kaptengu> I love it.
[03:16] <thomas> i'm happy for you ;)
[03:16] <vanberge> anybody here use azureus?
[03:16] <thomas> !anybody
[03:16] <thomas> ....
[03:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:17] <planetcall> goodmorning everyone
[03:17] <thomas> good evening ;D
[03:17] <bioticpro> thomas: lol, I like that, ok, I will ask next question... what models of the Nvidia 6200 are unlockable (from 4 to 8 pixel pipeline)?
[03:17] <vanberge> 'anyone' in this current channel utilize 'azureus' to download torrents - and have trouble with it workign correctly??
[03:18] <javiolo> Im trying to build freenx from sources but I get an error http://pastebin.ca/68755
[03:18] <runes> Sanne, g/f just came home with 200$ of groceries I need to put em away brb
[03:18] <javiolo> vanberge I had azureus installed but didnt work properly...
[03:18] <vanberge> error messages pop up and won't close, program wont exit correclty. etc.
[03:18] <bioticpro> Also, which is a good model in general out of these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814127203%2CN82E16814130014%2CN82E16814133149%2CN82E16814164056
[03:18] <Sanne> runes, I need to go soonish...
[03:18] <vanberge> javiolo: that is my experience  :-(
[03:18] <thomas> vanberge do you have java installed? azereus runs on java.
[03:19] <imc_>  Printing trouble with Linksys print server, help?
[03:19] <buzzed> how do i set an evnvironment variable
[03:19] <javiolo> vanberge I use the client that comes with gnome...
[03:20] <imc_> Printer (samsung 1710) works fine when plugged into USB but linksys can't seem to talk to it
[03:20] <DBO> buzzed, variable=value
[03:20] <DBO> buzzed, if another command you run needs to use that variable, use the command export variable=value
[03:20] <javiolo> vanberge or try bittornado
[03:20] <vanberge> javiolo: tyvm...  :-)
[03:20] <thomas> vanberge... or install java.
[03:20] <thomas> if you really are counting on azereus.
[03:21] <Yonda> How can I run X with SSH?
[03:21] <vanberge> sun java?
[03:21] <thomas> vanberge yeah.
[03:21] <javiolo> yonda ssh -X
[03:21] <tritium> Yonda: ssh -X
[03:21] <thomas> psych...
[03:21] <tritium> vanberge: yes, sun java packages are in dapper multiverse
[03:21] <RadiantFire> you ocould even mix it up and use ssh -Y
[03:21] <javiolo> Im trying to build freenx from sources but I get an error http://pastebin.ca/68755
[03:21] <smtkr> thomas: I had the question about Serpentine not burning mp3s anymore. It turns out that on my breezy install I was using gstreamer0.8-lame. For dapper, I needed to install a package called gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3. I guess serpentine is using the newer version that can't utilize the .8 plugins. Thanks for the help.
[03:21] <RadiantFire> which actually work
[03:22] <thomas> smtkr no probs :D
[03:22] <Yonda> thanks
[03:23] <vanberge> thomas: there are like 10 sun java packages!  what one do i need?  :-(
[03:23] <DBO> -jre
[03:23] <tritium> vanberge: most likely you want the jre
[03:23] <thomas> !java
[03:23] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:23] <thomas> boink :D
[03:24] <javiolo> any help compiling an app ?
[03:24] <DBO> ./configure, then make, then sudo checkinstall
[03:24] <vanberge> thomas: tyvm...
[03:24] <DShepherd> my <Control><Alt>F* keys dont switch between terminals. How can i fix this?
[03:24] <thomas> javiolo do you have build-essential installed?
[03:25] <javiolo> thomas yes
[03:25] <DBO> DShepherd, have you checked in xev to see which key(s) are not being picked up right?
[03:25] <thomas> well than DBO has said everything you need.
[03:25] <javiolo> thomas this is the prob http://pastebin.ca/68755
[03:25] <KuLover> mjr, I took all other hard drives off, and when it goes to boot now after loading everything, it just goes back to the loading screen and hangs. ANy ideas?
[03:25] <DShepherd> DBO: nope.. let me do that now.. are you the same person :-D?
[03:25] <KoDfish> Hello!
[03:26] <DShepherd> hi
[03:26] <thomas> KuLover i think you need to do a fresh install. Use the live-cd to back up all of your stuff
[03:26] <bioticpro> Hi all, what is a good irc for nvidia card related questions?
[03:26] <DBO> DShepherd, ive never met you in my life, that handsome helpful guy in #ubuntu-xgl is in no way me...  nope, but he sure is handsome, tell you female friends that
[03:26] <dick-richardson> Anyone know a good repository to get libc6 v.2.3.6-6 or better?
[03:26] <KuLover> Thomas, Thank you.. will do.
[03:26] <DShepherd> DBO: :-)
[03:27] <thomas> javiolo i'm sorry i don't speak spanish or portugese, what ever language you're packing
[03:27] <thomas> could you translate the last line?
[03:27] <javiolo> thomas its Spanish,
[03:27] <DBO> !es
[03:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:27] <thomas> like theres many people in there to help out....
[03:27] <javiolo> thomas descargados its downloaded
[03:27] <KoDfish> ok, heres the question... i think i want to switch to either ubuntu or xubuntu... what would you recomend? (i have some basic linux experiance, so i'm not a total n00b.)
[03:27] <javiolo> dbo np
[03:28] <DShepherd> DBO: they seem to work fine
[03:28] <DBO> javiolo, i was just letting you know ;-)
[03:28] <thomas> KoDfish install ubuntu, you can install Xfce from inside ubuntu and use both that way.
[03:28] <DBO> you speak fine english, but if your errors are in spanish it might be easier for you
[03:28] <dick-richardson> KoDfish: i'd go w/ubuntu...most support you find will be gnome specific
[03:28] <KoDfish> really? sounds neat.
[03:28] <thomas> yeah
[03:28] <thomas> sorry javiolo
[03:28] <KoDfish> i will be back after my install,.
[03:29] <javiolo> dbo the problem is that es channels are dead, its too late here :P
[03:29] <DBO> javiolo, eh, its even later here
[03:29] <thomas> k javiolo, does it install with a .deb, or is it a source package?
[03:29] <javiolo> thomas latest line construction order failed... child process failed
[03:29] <thomas> thats not good...
[03:30] <thomas> javiolo, if you can find a .deb for the program you are trying to install, it will make your life much easier trust me
[03:30] <theBishop> how many people are using Xgl/AiGLX regularly?
[03:30] <Sanne> Please, anybody, I need to go now, if runes comes back and asks for me, please point him to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16244
[03:30] <javiolo> thomas thats the problem, they arent deb for ppc of that app...
[03:30] <thomas> theBishop i've been using Xgl for a month now
[03:30] <tritium> thomas: use checkinstall to make a .deb, if the package is not in the repos
[03:31] <thomas> javiolo, find a source tarball then okay?
[03:31] <Nosliw> how does ubuntu play with vmware?
[03:31] <DBO> theBishop, i use it too
[03:31] <tritium> Nosliw: there is a vmware-player package in the repos
[03:31] <keithhhhh> Hello does anyone know how to install a Hauppauge USB2 TV tuner?
[03:31] <javiolo> thomas Ive done this: apt-get -b source nx freenx
[03:31] <thomas> Nosliw, check out qemu with kqemu.
[03:32] <Nosliw> thx thomas
[03:32] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, i've been getting occasional hard lockups (keyboard and mouse don't work, ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, nothing but cold reboot) and I was wondering if it was a kernel panic. i looked at syslog but i couldnt find anything. where should i look to find out what happened?
[03:32] <snoops> theBishop I'm just using xgl/compiz and finding is fantastic
[03:32] <vanberge> is it normal for ubuntu to be slow at initializing network connectivity??  i.e. i cant start my browser for 1-3 minutes after i log into the system?
[03:32] <bon_> just got back from holiday and did an update and it has changed my xorg.conf file so kdm doesnt start here is the log http://pastebin.com/724579 this is my xorg.conf that doesnt work http://pastebin.com/724585
[03:32] <DShepherd> my <Control><Alt>F* keys dont switch between terminals. How can i fix this?
[03:33] <theBishop> i've been using it for about a month now, and its really come a long way since the initial release
[03:33] <dick-richardson> Anyone know a good repository to get libc6 v.2.3.6-6 or better?
[03:33] <tritium> vanberge: no, not normal
[03:33] <theBishop> i mean, i've been using it regularly for a month
[03:33] <DBO> vanberge, nope, thats not very normal at all
[03:33] <thomas> yoshiznit123 have you made any hardware changes recently?
[03:33] <tritium> dick-richardson: you really should only use the official ubuntu repos, especially for important thigs like libc6
[03:33] <vanberge> tritium, DBO, any ideas on what might cause that?
[03:33] <yoshiznit123> thomas, nope, just since installing dapper
[03:33] <tritium> vanberge: what type of interface?  How is it configured?
[03:33] <thomas> vanberge bad dns resolution??
[03:34] <DBO> vanberge, sounds like dhcp not playing nice
[03:34] <vanberge> thomas: i have a very fast connection...
[03:34] <snoops> it's still an alpha product too theBishop.. just crazy fantastic really
[03:34] <thomas> yoshiznit123 and you did a fresh install?
[03:34] <vanberge> whats wierd is that my eth0 interface has an ip right away.
[03:34] <vanberge> i did ifconfig immediately
[03:34] <tritium> vanberge: which ISP?
[03:34] <yoshiznit123> thomas, yup. its actually really rare, it doesn't bother me much at all, but i can't find any errors or anything in the logs
[03:34] <vanberge> comcast.
[03:34] <thomas> theBishop, i recommend you use the guide that allows you to toggle Xgl on and off, because as snoops said, it's alpha and there are some problems.
[03:35] <tritium> hmm, Qwest Actiontec routers have a bug with their dhcp server that screws up DNS
[03:35] <tritium> guess that's not your problem
[03:35] <thomas> yoshiznit123 what are you doing usually when these lockups occur?
[03:35] <DBO> thomas, the xgl toggle method actually only toggles compiz and metacity, not xgl and xorg
[03:35] <vanberge> wow i just did a speed test... 6 meg.    that 55 bucks a month seems a little easier to pay
[03:36] <thomas> DBO, o really? so playing full screen video using the toggle method would still not work correctly?
[03:36] <neopsyche> wierd
[03:36] <dick-richardson> tritium: there are a couple of dependencies that aren't met with the default libc6
[03:36] <tritium> dick-richardson: deps for what?
[03:36] <coleco> vanberge: Seirousley?! I have comcast (I have never ran a speed test) But it feels line im never geting the speed we signed up to get
[03:36] <yoshiznit123> thomas, nothing special, just playing music?
[03:36] <DBO> thomas, hmmm, I donno, i think thats a window manager issue actually, it should work correctly in metacity
[03:36] <DBO> what WONT be fixed with the togel is things like games thomas
[03:36] <tritium> dick-richardson: you _don't_ want to change the libc6 that's installed on your system, unless you want a massive headache
[03:36] <dick-richardson> tritium: the multiverse packages for the ugly codecs
[03:36] <thomas> lyoshiznit123 you never ever had these problems in breezy?
[03:37] <yoshiznit123> thomas, whatever, don't worry about it. I was just curious what logs things like kernel panics would be written to
[03:37] <tritium> dick-richardson: that's a bug, then
[03:37] <yoshiznit123> thomas, yea, but that happened with my webcam, and its fixed with dapper :-)
[03:37] <vanberge> coleco: i think i am close to the 'distirbution center' or whatever you would call it
[03:37] <thomas> DBO o thats kinda weak. i don't ever really play many games that often anyways.
[03:37] <dick-richardson> tritium: so just hang out until the ubuntu devs straighten it out?
[03:37] <coleco> vanberge: Ah...
[03:37] <tritium> dick-richardson: file a bug to be sure it gets addressed, I'd say
[03:38] <DShepherd> :-( help.. someone.. anyone
[03:38] <DBO> thomas, I wrote a script that takes care of toggeling, its as safe as I can make it, but it requires replacing some system files in and out.  (there is logging and error checking, but still)
[03:38] <dick-richardson> tritium: i can do that. thank you!
[03:38] <tritium> thank you too, dick-richardson
[03:38] <yoshiznit123> dshepherd, only from x? are you sure your function keys are working?
[03:38] <thomas> DBO i can't wait until Xgl merges with Xorg. that will simplify things a whole lot eh?
[03:39] <DBO> thomas, well thats kinda what AIGLX is
[03:39] <DShepherd> yoshiznit123: yup... i just xev to check.
[03:39] <thomas> yoshiznit123 i don't know man.
[03:39] <thomas> DBO isn't that just for some integrated video cards?
[03:39] <yoshiznit123> thomas, that's cool, no worries :-)
[03:39] <callie> im trying to revert back from xgl but im a little stuck, can anyone help me with this please?
[03:40] <DBO> thomas, yeah, nviida driver support is coming soon (nvidia drivers are missing one extension, but they have promised delivery)
[03:40] <DBO> callie, join #ubuntu-xgl
[03:40] <thomas> callie
[03:40] <thomas> i'll see you in there
[03:40] <nf4> any one use xfce
[03:40] <nf4> in ubuntu
[03:40] <DShepherd> yoshiznit123: so.. you know where i can reset them or something?
[03:41] <yoshiznit123> dshepherd, i have no idea. i'm guessing there's something in xorg.conf... but you say xev registers the function keys and control/alt, and ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work?
[03:41] <linux_user> how would i change the background on xchat to black?
[03:41] <SniZ> hi
[03:42] <leleobhz> someone can tellme where on ubiquity i can change the minimum size for install?
[03:42] <SniZ> why my computer too slow?
[03:42] <yoshiznit123> leleobhz, what do you mean?
[03:42] <leleobhz> yoshiznit123: cause i want to install it in a usb pendrive
[03:42] <DShepherd> yoshiznit123: that's what I said
[03:42] <leleobhz> but its 1gb
[03:43] <yoshiznit123> leleobhz, someone was asking that earlier. ubuntu isn't really meant to be installed on small media, especially not with the livecd. you can try installing ubuntu-minimal from an alternate, or maybe look at puppylinux or damn small linux
[03:44] <dasGewitter> Hello, I have a couple of questions.
[03:44] <yoshiznit123> leleobhz, or you can try with ubiquity by partitioning, i don't know what you mean by changing the minimum size
[03:44] <leleobhz> yoshiznit123: but the bootstrap
[03:44] <leleobhz> yoshiznit123: i need do it has debian?
[03:44] <leleobhz> yoshiznit123: cause my pen is 1gb
[03:44] <leleobhz> and ubiquity dont install if freespace is less than 2
[03:45] <Schalken> does my windows computer need ext3 support to write to my ubuntu computer's samba share?
[03:45] <LjL> Schalken: no
[03:45] <yoshiznit123> leleobhz, yea, i don't think ubiquity can configure installed packages and installed takes more than 1 gig. try an alternate cd, i guess (or debootstrap). obviously, you'll need a bios that can boot from pen drives
[03:45] <Schalken> LJL: k thanks!
[03:46] <thomas> damn small linux is good for that.
[03:46] <LjL> dasGewitter: are you waiting for someone to give you permission to ask them? :-)
[03:47] <dasGewitter> Haha, no. I'm making sure my information is right, as well as my English.
[03:48] <LjL> dasGewitter: alright then. some people actually come here and are unsure the *can* ask questions.
[03:48] <leleobhz> thomas: DSL dont do in the way i want
[03:48] <leleobhz> usb drives act as scsi drives for kernel
[03:48] <dasGewitter> The new kernel is 2.6.17.1 I believe, and Ubuntu is using 2.6.15
[03:48] <leleobhz> and the boot is possible
[03:48] <dasGewitter> Why hasn't Ubuntu upgraded yet?
[03:48] <leleobhz> so why use a compressed RO fs?
[03:48] <dasGewitter> Thank you :D
[03:48] <RadiantFire> Daskies:
[03:48] <leleobhz> where i can use it as a normal system?
[03:48] <init_6> Hi all.  Need some help compiling usbserial.  Any takers?
[03:48] <RadiantFire> whoops,ignore that\\
[03:49] <LjL> dasGewitter: Debian is probably still at 2.4.something. there is a compromise between quick-upgrade-right-now-what-are-you-waiting-for and some testing, integration and security checking
[03:49] <dasGewitter> Ah, I like that. Unlike hasty Gentoo users I know : )
[03:49] <linux_user> LjL 2.6 is optional on sarge
[03:49] <slugicide> Greetings.  Can anyone point me to help: I can access the internet, but can't really browse.  Wireless dsl.
[03:50] <dasGewitter> slugicide: I have that same problem
[03:50] <LjL> dasGewitter: also, i don't think Ubuntu Dapper will move from kernel 2.6.15 -- i think you will have to wait for Edgy Eft. any given Ubuntu version only gets security fixes and bug fixes
[03:50] <tritium> slugicide, dasGewitter: Qwest?
[03:50] <Toma-> dasGewitter, the 2.6.15 kernel we use is just the same as 2.6.17 in security patches... if thats any consolation?
[03:50] <KhZilla> XP + RDP under VMware without X is totally cool...
[03:50] <slugicide> Yes, Qwest.
[03:50] <tritium> slugicide: Actiontec modem?
[03:50] <slugicide> Yessir.
[03:50] <yoshiznit123> leleobhz, try debootstrap: assuming /media/usbdisk is your pen drive, do 'debootstrap dapper /media/usbdisk'
[03:50] <KhZilla> everyone should do it!
[03:50] <dasGewitter> Toma: That makes sense actually. I'm just now beginning kernel learning. I'd like to contribute
[03:50] <tritium> slugicide: it's dhcp server is buggy
[03:50] <slugicide> Hmmm.
[03:51] <yoshiznit123> leleobhz, or look for alternative installation methods on ubuntu wiki
[03:51] <tritium> slugicide, dasGewitter: you need to prepend DNS nameservers in your dhcp config file
[03:51] <Toma-> dasGewitter, http://kernelnewbies.org/ :)
[03:51] <dasGewitter> tritium: Have a wiki for that?
[03:51] <dasGewitter> Toma: yes yes, I've been there, idling the channel as well.
[03:52] <tritium> dasGewitter: no, but you can "man dhclient.conf", or edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, and follow the examples that are commented out
[03:52] <dasGewitter> Toma: The wiki, unless I have problems perusing around it, was not very helpful
[03:52] <dasGewitter> tritium: ah, thank you.
[03:52] <slugicide> Thanks, tritium.
[03:52] <tritium> sure
[03:52] <unkn0wn2u> vi /etc/resolv.conf
[03:52] <SpeedyIndy> hi!
[03:52] <iwkse> hi all, anybody has a satellite notebook? i'm trying to find out how to select usb-boot when i press F12..any hints?
[03:52] <dasGewitter> My second question is an easy one. It's about the background during the Boot Splash screen
[03:53] <dasGewitter> I couldn't find the GTK settings in the Login Screen settings
[03:53] <vanberge> iwkse: does F12 take you to setup?
[03:53] <tritium> dasGewitter, slugicide: the main problem is the first nameserver listed in the IP address of the DSL modem.  Also, you might want to add a 2nd DNS server
[03:53] <iwkse> vanberge: when i press F12 i get a setup where i can choice +HD (usb and hard disk) , cdrom..ecc..
[03:54] <dasGewitter> tritium: Sounds good. I tried cloning the mac of the adsl router, but with no luck
[03:54] <thomas> usually your ISP has DNS servers you can add.
[03:54] <iwkse> but i see just +HD
[03:54] <iwkse> i can't be inside the tree and select usb
[03:54] <tritium> thomas: yeah, the bug is in the dhcp server in those actiontec modems
[03:54] <iwkse> thing i can do with F2 in the bios
[03:54] <vanberge> iwkse: oh ok... so your question is making the usb device bootable.. not 'how to i set my laptop to boot usb' ?  is that right?  (i.e., you can pick usb, it just doesnt work?)
[03:54] <iwkse> yes
[03:55] <iwkse> just making it bootable with F12
[03:55] <linux_user400354> does anyone use ekiga?
[03:55] <dasGewitter> Any help with the splash background?
[03:55] <linux_user> linux user no
[03:56] <Toma-> im trying to get Return Fire to work under wine, but i need a fake 256 color mode to get it to run... is this possible with win 0.9.15?
[03:56] <dasGewitter> I didn't know people still played Return Fire...
[03:57] <KuLover> thomas I booted from the live CD like you said, but it still hands at the logo screen, what should I do?
[03:57] <Toma-> dasGewitter, greatest 2 player/1 keyboard game evar :D
[03:58] <dasGewitter> Toma- That it is! I stopped playing years ago because there were no opponents...well not in Europe at least..
[03:58] <linux_user400354> i just got ekiga setup in ubuntu. does anyone want to test and see if it works?
[03:59] <dasGewitter> Toma-: I haven't thought to check again
[04:00] <dasGewitter> Alright, so no takers on helping me with the splash background?
[04:01] <adamant1988> dasGewitter, what did you need help with about it?
[04:01] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. I am trying to build code remotely on an ubuntu box. what do I need to do to get gcc and make and all that stuff put onto it? is there a simple way to do this?
[04:01] <loquitus_of_borg> like say apt or yum?
[04:01] <loquitus_of_borg> apparently no developer stuff was put onto it
[04:01] <dasGewitter> The login splash screen background. How do you change it? I could not find the GTK settings in the login screen ssettings
[04:01] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:02] <bimberi> !splash > dasGewitter
[04:02] <Toma-> dasGewitter, you can only set a color
[04:02] <bmp_> friends, romans, countrymen
[04:02] <bmp_> I installed your os
[04:02] <bmp_> and it is a delight.
[04:02] <Pillzy> Ok I know I will get flamed for this but, ho do I start X GUI in 6.06 server
[04:02] <dasGewitter> Toma-: That's fine with me, there's nothing set as of now though
[04:02] <Toma-> and its under the gdm-setup
[04:02] <chr1s_> gsm
[04:02] <chr1s_> gdm
[04:02] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: but that requires me to actually be there physically to load the install discs right?
[04:02] <Toma-> Pillzy, startx
[04:02] <init_6> I'm trying to recompile usbserial but getting nothing but errors.  Anyone able to help me out with this?
[04:03] <Pillzy> humm, that is what I thought
[04:03] <javiolo> Im trying to build freenx from sources but I get an error http://pastebin.ca/68755
[04:03] <Toma-> Pillzy, have you installed X?
[04:03] <iwkse> hi all, anybody has a satellite notebook? i'm trying to find out how to select usb-boot when i press F12..any hints?
[04:03] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: you can modify the sources to get the packages from the internet
[04:03] <uXp> any way of ending a invisible proccess?
[04:03] <Pillzy> nope, that is my issue,. No X on server install
[04:04] <Pillzy> ok, well this is just going to be a file and print server for home so I don't really need it
[04:04] <yoshiznit123> could anybody with a dual boot windows/ubuntu do me a big favor and test this script? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrationAssistance/Script
[04:04] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: uh... ok. so what does that mean in terms of the command you just gave me? is it a different command to source these packages from the net now?
[04:04] <bimberi> uXp: use 'ps aux' to find the process id, then kill it with the 'kill' command
[04:04] <Pillzy> Thanks for the help, this is my first Ubuntu install
[04:04] <yoshiznit123> ... and tell me if it works :-)
[04:05] <ElBob> does anyone know why I always get the 403 error when I try to update my software?  I already changed to se.archive.ubuntu.com, but I still get it.
[04:05] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: yes, that would be to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list, comment out references to the CD, then 'sudo aptitude update' and then the command i gave you
[04:05] <Toma-> Pillzy, thats because its a server :D silly! run 'sudo apt-get install xserve-xorg-core' if you want an X server. and maybe a winodw manager like fluxbox
[04:05] <linux_user400354> how can i make a script that runs when the computer starts up?
[04:05] <uXp> bimberi:  how do you use the kill command
[04:05] <dasGewitter> And is the gdm setup still in System --> Administration --> ?
[04:05] <uXp> !kill
[04:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[04:05] <Toma-> dasGewitter, yeh
[04:06] <chr1s_> how can I check what speed my cpu is running?
[04:06] <linux_user400354> uXp, man kill
[04:06] <dasGewitter> Toma-, Login Window --> Background Window
[04:06] <Toma-> chr1s_, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[04:06] <mcpowley> Hey guys, I need a suggestion for a book. I'm pretty much brand new to linux, much less ubuntu. Does anyone have suggestions for reading material I could get that could help me to understand the Linux OS and be able to use if effectively?
[04:06] <bimberi> uXp: kill <pid>, or if it is stubborn and won't die, kill -9 <pid>
[04:06] <yoshiznit123> chr1s_, or try gnome-system-monitor
[04:06] <chr1s_> thx
[04:07] <chr1s_> I just had some problems (in cedega) so restarted.... now computer is running verrrry slow...
[04:07] <Toma-> dasGewitter, Login window -- midway down "Background Colour"
[04:08] <linux_user> mcpowley:  Debian GNU/LINUX Bible helped me out quit a bit
[04:08] <dasGewitter> Toma-: Yes. That's what I thought. Hm, I have it set to black, yet when I load, it's a default black and gray dotted screen
[04:08] <chr1s_> any ideas (a desktop folder text also looks corrupt) but when I click on it I can read the text
[04:08] <ElBob> Does why would I be getting the 403 access forbidden message even after I changed my server?
[04:08] <Toma-> dasGewitter, are you using GDM?
[04:08] <ElBob> *Does anyone know
[04:08] <Toma-> ElBob, try another server?
[04:09] <bimberi> mcpowley: http://help.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <Juanfer2k> hello,  wanna install amsn, it says package is broken
[04:09] <ElBob> I have tried aus.archive.ubuntu.com, archive.ubuntu.com and se.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <Juanfer2k> how can I fix it
[04:09] <dasGewitter> Toma- mm, I'm not sure
[04:09] <vanberge> mcpowley: you set up a dual boot?
[04:09] <vanberge> mcpowley: www.ubuntuguide.org is very good
[04:09] <uXp> bimberi:  still not working
[04:10] <Toma-> dasGewitter, what does "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" return?
[04:10] <uXp> mna kill <process>  ?
[04:10] <vanberge> mcpowley: google "EasyUbuntu" as well... :-)
[04:11] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, i was wondering if anyone with a dual ubuntu/windows boot could test this script: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrationAssistance/Script and tell me about any problems... it looks for users on the windows partition to import settings from. it won't hurt the system at all (you can choose not to import anything). thanks a ton :-)
[04:11] <ElBob> Toma-: where can I find a list of servers to try?
[04:11] <bimberi> uXp: hmmk - you could try it as superuser - sudo kill <pid>
[04:11] <dasGewitter> Toma-: oohhhh, Gnome Display Manager, haha, wow. Yes, sorry, I am.
[04:11] <dasGewitter> I have Xgl with Compiz
[04:11] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: thanks a  bunch. that's exactly what the doctor ordered.
[04:11] <Toma-> dasGewitter, hmmmmmmmm XGL hey.
[04:11] <dasGewitter> Which is why it removed the background color during the splash login
[04:11] <bimberi> !mirror
[04:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:11] <uXp> bimberi:  whew got it
[04:12] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: np :)
[04:12] <bimberi> uXp: yay
[04:12] <dasGewitter> Toma-, yeah, so I was trying to get a color behind it
[04:12] <uXp> w00t w00t
[04:12] <uXp> party!
[04:12] <Toma-> dasGewitter, have you restarted gdm?
[04:12] <Toma-> or just X
[04:12] <dasGewitter> Toma-, not yet, I will soon.
[04:12] <Toma-> ok. try that
[04:12] <Toma-> bbl
[04:14] <dasGewitter> Toma- ok
[04:14] <mcpowley> vanberge, yeah, via grub i believe
[04:14] <vanberge> mcpowley: cool..  :-)
[04:15] <vanberge> ive used linux alot on second hard drive/ dual booting, etc.
[04:15] <vanberge> just finally converting for good
[04:15] <luddite> hey o, my first ubuntu chat.. how do i configure dapper drake with nvidia 3d accel?
[04:15] <mcpowley> also, might anyone have suggestions for like an actual book I can /purchase/ that will teach me the in and outs of linux? I
[04:15] <Warbo> !nvidia
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <linux_user> mcpowley: Debian GNU/Linux Bible
[04:15] <vanberge> mcpowley: don't buy a book... you'll find much more and better info online
[04:16] <Bennner> hi everyone, i'm looking for help with samba.. i can see the linux-pc from my xp machines, but all the folder are not accessible, i tried alots of thing... edit smb.conf, add user, smbpasswd etc.. what i want is each shares need a different user/password for read or read/write
[04:16] <Yonda> how can i shutdown via ssh?
[04:16] <vanberge> Yonda: sudo shutdown -h now
[04:16] <Yonda> vanberge, thanks
[04:16] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: I was trying to build QT and got the following error (and others related to it) kernel/qt_x11_p.h:66:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[04:16] <runes> Is there anymone is this channel with experience in postfix?
[04:16] <linux_user> Benner enable file sharing on each file you need to share
[04:17] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: am I still missing something?
[04:17] <linux_user> Benner : permissions
[04:17] <bimberi> !find Xlib.h
[04:17] <ubotu> No packages matching 'Xlib.h' could be found
[04:17] <Warbo> mcpowley: The only thing a book can contain which won't get outdated is core system commands, but when I am using such commands I like to have "online" (electronic) help available as it saves lokking through a book just for the right option
[04:17] <vanberge> mcpowley: do you want to learn usability?  or like more in depth?
[04:17] <Bennner> you mean, right click on the mounted folder make properties, and change the permission?
[04:17] <loquitus_of_borg> !find Xutil.h
[04:17] <ubotu> No packages matching 'Xutil.h' could be found
[04:18] <loquitus_of_borg> !find Xos.h
[04:18] <ubotu> No packages matching 'Xos.h' could be found
[04:18] <linux_user> Benner that is one way, from root, chroot commands are much faster and more flexible
[04:18] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: hang on, i'm checking those answers
[04:18] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: thanks
[04:18] <uXp> nyone here ever install UT2k$ in ubuntu LinuX?
[04:18] <luddite> thanks for the nvidia howto :)
[04:18] <linux_user> or is it chown, i forget heh
[04:19] <linux_user> Benner: chown is the command line way
[04:19] <Bennner> linux_user: i want to share /media/Mp3 what is the cmd line?
[04:19] <linux_user> Benner: new to linux?
[04:20] <Bennner> yes but two week of intensive ;) i know basics commands
[04:20] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: ok, http://packages.ubutu.com indicates various packages that have Xlib.h in them, try libx11-dev
[04:20] <yoshiznit123> i'm playing a movie with mplayer and it always stops at the same place (corrupted movie, i think)... the problem is that i can't close the window no matter what i do, kill -9 9768 (the pid) doesn't do anything...?
[04:20] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: that sounds right
[04:20] <yoshiznit123> control-c in terminal won't work either
[04:20] <linux_user> Benner: ive only used chown a few times, best bet is to search google for chown commands to change file permissions
[04:20] <yoshiznit123> nor closing the terminal
[04:20] <linux_user> as i dont remember
[04:20] <vanberge> Bennner: chmod might be what you want?
[04:21] <linux_user> chmod, hmmm , thats it, yaaaa
[04:21] <Bennner> i want to reduce the security permission for /media/mp3
[04:21] <linux_user> i forget more than i remember
[04:21] <vanberge> chmod ugo+rw
[04:21] <yoshiznit123> bennner, who do you want to share it with?
[04:22] <vanberge> that will give everyone read/write
[04:22] <vanberge> chmod ugo+rx is read/execute
[04:22] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: you rock dude (or dudette)
[04:22] <Bennner> this is a mounted drive to be share with samba
[04:22] <vanberge> chmod 777 is anybody can do anything
[04:22] <yoshiznit123> bennner, a more fine-grained way is to add all the users u want to share with to a group, and do chown
[04:22] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: haha, dude'll do :)
[04:23] <linux_user> Benner here is a link for chmod help
[04:23] <linux_user> http://www.zzee.com/solutions/chmod-help.shtml
[04:23] <Bennner> Grrr.. i have to restart i got "Su returned with an error."
[04:23] <loquitus_of_borg> bimberi: just making sure... there are <some> women around.
[04:23] <usul> hello
[04:23] <bimberi> loquitus_of_borg: :)
[04:24] <runes> Which dyndns client do you all recommend for Ubuntu?
[04:24] <usul> Can anyone tell me what the command is to install a .deb (and do I need to put the file anywhere in particular)
[04:24] <linux_user> banberge: thanks for setting him straight for me
[04:25] <linux_user> vanberge:
[04:25] <liquidten2> usul:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:25] <AngryElf> is there one package I can apt-get install that will get everything I need for building/compiling?  gcc/g++/make etc
[04:25] <liquidten2> AngryElf:  build-essential
[04:25] <vanberge> linux_user: no problemo
[04:26] <chr1s_> is there some sort of checkdisk/defrag I can run in ubuntu?
[04:27] <yoshiznit123> chr1s_, you don't need to defrag ext3's, but you can use fsck to check the disk
[04:27] <Bennner> ok im back
[04:27] <dasGewitter> Hm, still no luck with the background color during splash login
[04:27] <chr1s_> thanks
[04:27] <Robin_Hollenstei> hi everyone
[04:27] <AngryElf> liquidten2, thanx
[04:27] <Candamir> hey, i want to install Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop
[04:27] <chr1s_> heres what happened:  I was playing a game in cedega, and cedega crashed. I restarted my system and since then it has been extremely slow... playing videos is now even choppy... any ideas?
[04:28] <Candamir> does Ubuntu support Intel Wireless cards?
[04:28] <linux_user> candamir: i have xubuntu on my laptop
[04:28] <dasGewitter> Candamir: It should
[04:28] <yoshiznit123> chr1s_, do you see any odd processes running?
[04:28] <_jason> !wireless
[04:28] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[04:28] <dasGewitter> Candamir: I have 6.06, works fine.
[04:28] <_jason> Candamir: there is a list on the wiki that ubotu just linked
[04:28] <chr1s_> nope
[04:29] <Candamir> and if I still want WinXP (required by school) to dual-boot, then I just tell Ubuntu during the installation that it should create a new partition and then modify the GRUB menu file?
[04:30] <Bennner> i dont really understand the chmod command, i just want to share that to samba with user 1001 and 1002
[04:30] <dasGewitter> Candamir: Same for me as well. It'll modify the Grub automatically, partition space for your linux install first
[04:30] <vanberge> Candamir: you an support any wirless card.  don't worry about that.  ndiswrapper
[04:30] <StAfZe6> Hi
[04:30] <Psy-X> Hello
[04:30] <chr1s_> yoshi... I do have a folder whose text appears corrupt on my desktop, but when I click the folder... the text is readable
[04:30] <chr1s_> if that points to anything?
[04:30] <ElBob> Okay, every mirror I have tried gives me the 403 error
[04:31] <vanberge> chr1s_: what do you mean corrupt?
[04:31] <Candamir> so I should tell the installer that it should create the Ubuntu partition /before/ the Windows partition?
[04:31] <chr1s_> it contains non ascii characters
[04:31] <ElBob> can anyone help me?
[04:31] <yoshiznit123> chr1s_, what's the file?
[04:31] <vanberge> chr1s_: do you just need to get into it? or rename it?
[04:31] <StAfZe6> you tell me
[04:31] <chr1s_> its just a shortcut to a "download" directory
[04:32] <dasGewitter> Candamir: I believe it should be after, I think there should be an option to tell it to install to open space.
[04:32] <chr1s_> I can click the folder and go in it fine... its justr that the name of the folder appears corrupt on the desktop
[04:32] <vanberge> can you right click and rename?
[04:32] <chr1s_> I thought it might be pointing to something as to why my system may be running so slow
[04:32] <javiolo> is there any way to press a button and all windows resize, like os x ?
[04:32] <dasGewitter> Candamir: I don't think that Ubuntu will carelessly write over the XP partition.
[04:32] <DShepherd> How do i go about binding <Control><Alt>F* combinations so that they jump to terminals. for some reason or the other.. they dont seem to work
[04:32] <dasGewitter> javiolo: With Xgl, it's F12
[04:32] <vanberge> Candamir: he is right... i beleive it will say "re-size NTFS partition and install to open space"
[04:33] <javiolo> dasgewitter thanks
[04:33] <dasGewitter> javiolo: kein Problem
[04:33] <dasGewitter> er..
[04:33] <dasGewitter> no problem
[04:33] <chr1s_> I will try resintalling the kernel I guess
[04:34] <javiolo> dasgewitter its easy to install ? it needs many config ?
[04:34] <vanberge> chr1s_: what do you mean
[04:34] <mixtion> hola
[04:34] <javiolo> !es
[04:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:34] <vanberge> lol javiolo
[04:34] <dasGewitter> javiolo: I'll be honest, it can be a pain sometimes. /msg me and we'll talk about your setup now
[04:34] <usul> liquidten2 I get an error "2" when dpkg
[04:34] <chr1s_> I was playing a game in cedega... cedega crashed... and then I restarted my computer... its been running extremely slow since then
[04:35] <javiolo> vanberge Im speaking in english :P
[04:35] <bobby> chr1s_, take a look for anything error like in dmesg
[04:35] <loquitus_of_borg> !find Xext
[04:35] <ubotu> Found: libxext-dev, libxext6, libxext6-dbg, x11proto-xext-dev, mozilla-ctxextensions
[04:36] <chr1s_> hmmm... these timesteamps arent too useful
[04:36] <dasGewitter> !de
[04:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:36] <DShepherd> help me please..
[04:36] <vanberge> chr1s_: are you runnign live cd?
[04:36] <vanberge> or dual boot?
[04:36] <chr1s_> I dont know what this is so Im going to say no
[04:36] <dasGewitter> oo0oo
[04:37] <harry_> is there an application that supports music, video transfers for NOKIA mobile phones
[04:37] <vanberge> chr1s_: i just want to make sure you dont goof up your system  :-)   do you use windows?
[04:37] <chr1s_> but there are "misaligned resource pointers, PCI interrupts, etc in here)
[04:37] <harry_> is there an application that supports music, video transfers for NOKIA mobile phones. for Ubuntu Linux
[04:37] <chr1s_> yes
[04:37] <AngryElf> ok, i'm a moron and just did, sudo rm -rf ~/*  which didn't remove any hidden files obviously, but it removed ~/Desktop, which luckly didn't have anything in it.....but even with mkdir Desktop, it's not function correctly......is there some dpkg-reconfigure <somethin here> to fix this?
[04:38] <harry_> chrls: what is it??
[04:38] <vanberge> chr1s_: how are you running linux?
[04:38] <jiping> is there anybody know how to see MMS under totem?
[04:38] <vanberge> did you install it?
[04:38] <harry_> chr1s: what is it??
[04:38] <chr1s_> its on my slave drive... windows is on the master
[04:38] <chr1s_> yes I did
[04:38] <harry_> is there an application that supports music, video transfers for NOKIA mobile phones. for Ubuntu Linux
[04:38] <chr1s_> I've been runnig ubuntu fine for months now...
[04:38] <jiping> MMs streaming file
[04:39] <vanberge> chr1s_: did your system crash hard?
[04:39] <thomas> harry be patient there's lots of people in here
[04:39] <vanberge> and did you do a file system check?
[04:39] <thomas> if somebody knew they'd tell you right away.
[04:39] <chr1s_> I dont think so... cedega kind of froze and some debug windows came up (which I closed).  I did a control alt 1 and then init 6
[04:39] <jiping> is anybody know?
[04:39] <vanberge> harry_: i was wondering this myself (only - about motorola phones)
[04:39] <thomas> you should try google while you wait for somebody in here to answer.
[04:39] <DShepherd> yes harry_ .. i ahead of you in the queue :-)
[04:40] <harry_> DShepherd: what do you mean??
[04:40] <vanberge> DShepherd: what's your queston?
[04:40] <chr1s_> and it takes MUCH longer for X to start now
[04:40] <DShepherd> How do i go about binding <Control><Alt>F* combinations so that they jump to terminals. for some reason or the other.. they dont seem to work
[04:40] <Hexidigital_> anyone know of a program (preferably in aptitude) that is similar to MSs OneNote 2003?
[04:40] <DShepherd> harry_: i;m just playing.. never mind me
[04:40] <bon_> my computer locks at start just before you put your user name in - here is the xorg.log   - http://pastebin.ca/68794
[04:41] <harry_> DSheperd: i just had my NOKIA N70. i wanted to transfer mp3 to my mobile phones
[04:41] <vanberge> DShepherd: those should work out of the box.  you use gnome?
[04:41] <DShepherd> vanberge: yeah
[04:41] <vanberge> harry_: you have a data cable?
[04:41] <DShepherd> vanberge: they did.. they dont anymore
[04:41] <anilruby> Can I install dapper drake without booting with live cd?
[04:41] <vanberge> DShepherd: did soemthing happen?
[04:41] <DShepherd> vanberge: know how I can going about fixing them
[04:41] <harry_> vanberge: you mean the one that connects my phone to the USB port??
[04:41] <Hexidigital_> anilruby:: you mean install to your hard disk?
[04:41] <vanberge> harry_: yep
[04:41] <DShepherd> vanberge: xgl... but.. i dont suspect it
[04:42] <harry_> anilruby" update from the net. that'll get you dapper drake
[04:42] <wims> anilruby,  I believe you can with the alternate ISO
[04:42] <vanberge> DShepherd: i bet that is the issue.  xgl makes changes to your xorg
[04:42] <vanberge> i dont know much about xgl, i was actually just reding about it
[04:42] <harry_> vanberge: i have one.
[04:42] <vanberge> harry_: did you make a backup of your xorg.conf file ?
[04:42] <bon_> one of the updates has broken my computer
[04:43] <vanberge> you could try copying in the original, and see if that helps?
[04:43] <dasGewitter> I use Xgl, what is the question about the xorg.conf file?
[04:43] <DShepherd> vanberge: but control alt is not a gnome thing... its an x thing.. i dont think so..
[04:43] <harry_> vanberge: nope.. why do have to??
[04:43] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: my control alt f keys dont jump to terminal
[04:43] <vanberge> harry_: how else would you tranfer media to the phone?
[04:43] <vanberge> DShepherd: the xorg.conf file is what starts up X, isnt it?
[04:43] <bon_> what is glore for
[04:44] <dasGewitter> hmm
[04:44] <william_> How do I execute bin files with Ubuntu ^
[04:44] <dasGewitter> that may be the keyboard language change
[04:44] <dasGewitter> does Shift+Backspace log you out?
[04:44] <william_> I downloaded some bin files but I can't get anyhtingout of them
[04:44] <vanberge> william_: from command line:  type ./filename.bin
[04:44] <vanberge> maybe?
[04:44] <DShepherd> vanberge: yes... you may be right about the x.org file... but I dont think xgl did that
[04:44] <bon_> what is glcore
[04:44] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: no it doesnt
[04:44] <bon_> for
[04:44] <anilruby> Hexidigital_ I have 256MB RAM, 1.7Ghz processor, it takes too much time. it really hangs, how to install like 5.10, text mode
[04:44] <harry_> vanberge: i dont know?? i was thinking that if could just paste the mp3's to the directory of my mobile phone..
[04:44] <dasGewitter> hm
[04:45] <eps> anilruby, get ubuntu-alternative
[04:45] <vanberge> harry_: but how would your computer see your phone?
[04:45] <ElBob> just out of curiosity, what is causing the 403 error?
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> anilruby:: yes, what eps said
[04:45] <dasGewitter> DShepherd: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.xx
[04:45] <dasGewitter> xx = whatever language you are, i.e. United States - .us
[04:45] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: that doesnt seem to work at all.. i' try again for the 10th time
[04:45] <dasGewitter> type that in terminal
[04:46] <harry_> vanberge: i dont know. i tried connecting it the computer but nothing happened
[04:46] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: that doesnt work..again.
[04:46] <anilruby> eps, how to do ubuntu-alternative?
[04:46] <bon_> ah
[04:46] <RadiantFire> lol
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> anilruby:: download it from www.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <anilruby> Hexidigital_ what is ubuntu-alternative
[04:46] <eps> anilruby, you have to download the ubuntu-alternative iso instead of the -desktop one
[04:46] <anilruby> ?
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> anilruby:: it is a distribution cd
[04:46] <kolaje> Does anyone do any wardriving with ubuntu? :\
[04:46] <DShepherd> hehe
[04:46] <vanberge> harry_: i dont get it.. so you have your phone connected wiht usb ?
[04:46] <vanberge> lol
[04:47] <DShepherd> vanberge: any ideas?
[04:47] <bon_> my repotoires are set for us but computer is installed uk
[04:47] <anilruby> No, I have Ubuntu 6.06 cds, I want to install from it, without live Ubuntu?
[04:47] <vanberge> DShepherd: not really, no  :-(  i am sorry
[04:47] <kolaje> what'd harry ask now?
[04:47] <eps> thanks RadiantFire :P ...I've already had my fair share of embarrasment going to install ubuntu with the normal iso and it crashing, on around 20 pcs (haven't had it work yet)...then I had to dl the alternative one which is another 8 hour wait on 256k
[04:47] <DShepherd> vanberge: thanks anyways
[04:47] <vanberge> anilruby: you have to boot live, then an icon on desktop says 'install'
[04:48] <Hexidigital_> anilruby:: isnt there an option to install instead of boot?  (i never used a live cd, so i dont know)
[04:48] <harry_> vanberge: yep.. but the ubuntu doesnt read it
[04:48] <eps> Hexidigital_, no their isn't
[04:48] <wayout> hi what CD do you download for a hd install?
[04:48] <anilruby> vanberge, How much time it takes on 256MB ram and 1.7Ghz
[04:48] <william_> Hey, I get this error while trying to install a bin
[04:48] <anilruby> ?
[04:48] <eps> you have to get the alternative one
[04:48] <william_> error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:48] <eps> wayout, ubuntu-alternative
[04:48] <vanberge> anilruby: not bad... thats about the stats of my laptop
[04:48] <Hexidigital_> eps:: ah, thanks :)
[04:48] <vanberge> 30-45 mins
[04:48] <RadiantFire> eps it actually succeeded for me, although I heard about lots of problems
[04:48] <ashzilla> How long do files stay in /tmp before they're deleted?
[04:48] <shadrach> does ubuntu support MDA phones?
[04:48] <william_> How do I get that shared library?
[04:49] <eps> william_, find out which package contains that file and dl it
[04:49] <vanberge> DShepherd: the only thing i could think of is trying to remove xgl
[04:49] <eps> william_, get apt-file and do apt-file search filenamehere
[04:49] <Candamir> and if I understood right, the desktop install cd will work as a LiveCD and then offers me the option to install it permanently?
[04:49] <eps> ashzilla, normally each reboot?
[04:49] <DShepherd> vanberge: hehe... been there.. done that.. anything else?
[04:50] <eps> Candamir, note the installer with the livecd is alpha and doesn't work on a lot of pc's
[04:50] <vanberge> DShepherd: type dmesg
[04:50] <vanberge> in console
[04:50] <ashzilla> eps: Okay, thanks - I had no understanding of how /tmp worked.
[04:50] <vanberge> maybe that will output some errors?
[04:50] <anilruby> Hexidigital_ and eps But it really hangs on choosing country time? I tried with 10 diff cds!
[04:50] <william_> it doesnt work
[04:50] <Candamir> eps: So, what will happen when I boot the desktop CD?
[04:50] <DShepherd> vanberge: it would be good to know what I am looking for
[04:50] <eps> anilruby, are you using the livecd installer or the ubuntu-alternative installer?"
[04:50] <dasGewitter> DShepherd: whoops, sorry
[04:51] <vanberge> DShepherd: actually, do this instead.
[04:51] <vanberge> cd /var/log/
[04:51] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: no prob
[04:51] <bon_> uk or gb
[04:51] <william_> bash: get: command not found
[04:51] <DShepherd> vanberge: and then?
[04:51] <eps> Candamir, the desktop one is the live cd...it is a normal live cd with a gentoo style gui installer which you can click to install or just use the disc as a normal live cd
[04:51] <vanberge> tail -30 Xorg.0.log
[04:51] <vanberge> look for any errors in that output
[04:51] <vanberge> i dont really know what it would say
[04:51] <Candamir> ok
[04:52] <anilruby> eps livecd installer!
[04:52] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: do you have a xmodmap.conf file? same question to you
[04:52] <eps> anilruby, yes, you _must_ get the ubuntu-alternative disc or iso to install
[04:52] <ktstone> I need to set my monitors max refresh rate to 60, I don't understand hor.sync and vert.refresh.  What should I set those values to?
[04:52] <Candamir> eps: and during the install process, I will be able to select all the options I need to still keep running WinXP (make separate partition)?
[04:52] <dasGewitter> DShepherd: Yes.
[04:52] <william_> When I try to install another bin I get this
[04:52] <william_> bash: ./mono-1.1.13.8_0-installer.bin: Permission denied
[04:52] <anilruby> eps, please give me the link for it!
[04:53] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: ah... vanberge did you find that file?
[04:53] <eps> Candamir, indeed...note you should make sure you have the free space for the partition already assigned - it cannot resize a windows parition for you without killing the data on it
[04:53] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: what is the location of that file
[04:53] <vanberge> DShepherd: what file?
[04:53] <harry_> is there an application that supports music, video transfers for NOKIA mobile phones. for Ubuntu Linux
[04:53] <dasGewitter> william: You are typing "sudo" before all this, right?
[04:53] <siriusnova> Anyone running AIGLX/XGL/COMPIZ on a Radeon 7500 mobility?
[04:53] <william_> naw
[04:53] <william_> what is sudo^
[04:53] <william_> ?
[04:53] <clparker> SUDO = SUPER USER DO
[04:54] <anilruby> eps, please give me the link for it! For ubuntu-alternative
[04:54] <DShepherd> vanberge: xmodmap.conf
[04:54] <dasGewitter> siriusnova: A rage Mobility, x500 series, yes
[04:54] <vanberge> DShepherd: you want me to see what is int hat file?
[04:54] <eps> anilruby, http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso <--- for 32bit only
[04:54] <eps> else see http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[04:54] <siriusnova> dasGewitter - do you get a white screen when you log into gnome?
[04:54] <dasGewitter> siriusnova: with the "X" right in the middle?
[04:55] <siriusnova> Gas - yes
[04:55] <dasGewitter> DShepherd: /usr/share/xmodmap/
[04:55] <DShepherd> vanberge: well.. i guess that would come along. but first tell me if you have the file and where it is located
[04:55] <anilruby> ok eps
[04:55] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: thanks..
[04:55] <dasGewitter> siriusnova: Haha! Yes, I was just asking others how to change it as well
[04:55] <siriusnova> das - i get a white screen like so http://web.umr.edu/~taknnc/Screenshot.png
[04:55] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: can you send me that file please? if you dont mnd that is
[04:55] <dasGewitter> DShepherd: No problem.
[04:55] <siriusnova> i dont think its the same thing
[04:55] <vanberge> DShepherd: i dont have that file
[04:56] <DShepherd> vanberge: hmmm.. oj
[04:56] <harry_> is there an application that supports music, video transfers for NOKIA mobile phones. for Ubuntu Linux
[04:56] <william_> I need a visual basic app for linux
[04:56] <dasGewitter> DShepherd: Yeah, sure, no problem
[04:56] <varsendaggr> william_,   vim
[04:56] <vanberge> harry_: you don't so much need an application like that, but you need to ahve ubuntu recognize your usb device
[04:56] <william_> I am trying to install kbasic but I need some weird files that I cant fin with the commands I am told
[04:57] <dasGewitter> siriusnova: hm, no not that.
[04:57] <william_> vim
[04:57] <vanberge> harry_: maybe boot up ubuntu with it connected?
[04:57] <siriusnova> :/
[04:57] <dasGewitter> siriusnova: You did configure your ATI before you installed did you not?
[04:57] <varsendaggr> william_, try apt-cahce search VB
[04:57] <william_> Cool thanks man!
[04:57] <moonunit> how would i go about installing xfce?
[04:57] <siriusnova> dasGewitter - yes
[04:57] <william_> I got a ton of VB homework and no XP to do it on :D
[04:57] <william_> apt-cahce search VB ?
[04:58] <Latino> hi. does gnome turns a firewall by default?
[04:58] <harry_> vanberge: you mean to say restart my computer while its connected... ubuntu detects other USB disk device. but it doesnt detect my phone
[04:58] <william_> bash: apt-cahce: command not found
[04:58] <ardchoille> Latino: you can install firestarter, it's a nice firewall app
[04:58] <varsendaggr> william_, i found it apt-get install gb
[04:58] <varsendaggr> william_, sorry that is apt-cache
[04:58] <ardchoille> william_: spelling error there
[04:58] <varsendaggr> that is a search tool
[04:58] <moonunit> how would i go about installing xfce?
[04:59] <william_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:59] <william_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:59] <DShepherd> moonunit: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <moonunit> DShepherd, thanks yo
[04:59] <william_> DO I use that SUDO thing again ?
[04:59] <ardchoille> william_: yes
[04:59] <varsendaggr> william_, sudo
[04:59] <DShepherd> moonunit: no prob
[04:59] <vanberge> has anybody had any success connecting mobile phones to ubuntu via usb??  this is for harry_, but i am interested as well
[05:00] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: sending the file
[05:00] <Cntryboy> whats the command to rename files? rename?
[05:00] <william_> AWESOME! ITs unpacking!
[05:00] <william_> Hope it works :D
[05:00] <Cntryboy> actually rename a folder
[05:00] <dasGewitter> DShepherd, ja
[05:00] <Boobler> cntryboy: mv
[05:00] <Latino> ardchoille: I think I have firestart installed because I saw it updating in a dist-upgrade yesterday. how do I know if is it working?
[05:00] <Cntryboy> is that m v?
[05:00] <Cntryboy> I thought that was move?
[05:00] <Boobler> cntryboy: no, it's mv as in a shortened version of move
[05:00] <ardchoille> Latino: run it and it'll tell you if the firewall is on or not
[05:01] <harry_> vanberge: installing Nokia PC suite doesnt work on ubuntu. even if you have WINE
[05:01] <william_> uh oh
[05:01] <bon_> my computer locks at start just before you put your user name in - here is the xorg.log   - http://pastebin.ca/68794
[05:01] <Cntryboy> I know mv means move, but why am I wanting to use a move command when I can use a rename command?
[05:01] <william_> dude where di it install too?
[05:01] <ardchoille> Latino: when you quit Firestarter, the firewall will remain running unless you specifically turn it off.
[05:01] <william_> is it in my tool bar?
[05:01] <Boobler> cntryboy: because that's the command to do it, or would u rather do a copy?
[05:01] <varsendaggr> william_, apt-get is the coolest thing ever there is a gui forntend for it called synaptic   but gui's can waste time
[05:01] <Fangz> Is there a pretty, GUI-fied way to configure GRUB?
[05:01] <varsendaggr> william_,   it should be     or you can just type gb
[05:02] <william_> Cool thanks man :D
[05:02] <Boobler> cntryboy: a mv command won't actually make a new file, it just changes the name
[05:02] <Latino> ardchoille: nvm. I guess it wasn't. I was tring to upload a pic in imageshack and it took a while, that's why I thought it was a firewall problems. but finally got thru
[05:02] <varsendaggr> william_, no prob
[05:02] <kolaje> Cntryboy; you're just moving the file to the same destination with a new filename
[05:02] <Cntryboy> so let me see if I understand, to rename a folder you use mv and to rename files you use rename or rn right?
[05:02] <william_> *Testing string compilation*
[05:02] <william_> 6 factorial = 720
[05:02] <william_> Type it where?
[05:02] <ardchoille> Latino: imageshack can take a while at times :)
[05:02] <varsendaggr> william_, in the terminal
[05:02] <Cntryboy> so will the original folder still be there?
[05:02] <Latino> i c
[05:02] <Boobler> cntryboy: no u use mv for both files and for folders, to the system they are all the same to put it simply
[05:02] <william_> This is what I get when I type GB
[05:02] <william_> *Testing string compilation*
[05:02] <william_> 6 factorial = 720
[05:03] <william_> thats it, nothing happens
[05:03] <Cntryboy> ok let me try
[05:03] <kolaje> Cntryboy;  Unless you specify a new location for the file or folder, yes it will be where it was before
[05:03] <Cntryboy> no its not there it renamed it what I wanted
[05:03] <Cntryboy> thanks boobler
[05:03] <varsendaggr> william_, most programs that you install with apt-get or dpkg get automagically installed in the /usr/bin/    (    this folder has the symlinks  )
[05:03] <Boobler> cntryboy: np
[05:04] <william_> so should IT go to that folder via the terminal then type GB ^
[05:04] <william_> ?
[05:04] <m5m> I'm stuck: upgraded to Dapper a couple of weeks ago, was having a stuck-mouse on boot problem (don't know if it's related) had to re-plug it for it to function... Now, after a random crash (system became fully unresponsive during a dvd::rip session (a perl-based app), My system will NOT load KDE/X at all... I'm in term 1 screen session irssi here, startx and sudo kdm get me to the blue font, super-low-resolution "kubuntu loading" 
[05:05] <william_> It's still doing this ...
[05:05] <varsendaggr> william_, no /usr/bin   is your default place   where the terminal looks for your program files
[05:05] <william_> william@WilliamsComputer:/usr/bin$ gb
[05:05] <william_> *Testing string compilation*
[05:05] <william_> 6 factorial = 720
[05:05] <william_> oh cool
[05:05] <varsendaggr> just a sec   i don't have that installed
[05:05] <william_> So how do I get this running ?
[05:05] <prwlr> hello
[05:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how can i get the last console debug output?
[05:06] <varsendaggr> william_, i don't know
[05:06] <william_> hahaha
[05:06] <william_> I type GB and it does nothing :D
[05:06] <william_> So apt get
[05:06] <william_> I'll just try it again with something else
[05:06] <william_> How do I make a short cut icon to the GB file ?
[05:06] <william_> Is there a way to do it?
[05:06] <fletch_> excuse me, but does anybody know if/where there is a boot log of ubuntu?
[05:07] <vanberge> harry_: i found something maybe
[05:07] <DShepherd> vanberge: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-January/msg00018.html <-- this might be what happened to me.. I had the applet loaded sometime yesterday and it kept crashing.. i dont have the applet loaded anymore.. so..i stil dont know what to do :-(
[05:07] <harry_> vanberge: what is it
[05:07] <vanberge> harry_: gsm-utils
[05:07] <kayde> I need help!!!!!
[05:07] <vanberge> tools for accessing gsm mobile phones
[05:07] <harry_> vanberge: how do i use it. and how do i get it??
[05:07] <kayde> Dose anyone know the terminal code to nstall dapper drake of the live cd?
[05:08] <vanberge> harry_: i have no idea how to use it... i just found it.
[05:08] <kayde> Dose anyone know the terminal code to nstall dapper drake of the live cd?
[05:08] <harry_> does banshee really supports music transfers to IPOD
[05:08] <varsendaggr> william_, i don't know      just a sec
[05:08] <Sivik> hi all
[05:08] <vanberge> but you can get it by doing "sudo apt-get install gsm-utils"
[05:08] <harry_> vanberge: well how do i get it
[05:09] <vanberge> DShepherd: seems like that is probably the cause.
[05:09] <Sivik> stupid question, how do i change all the files in a folder to a different owner
[05:09] <vanberge> DShepherd: but i have no idea how to fix
[05:09] <vanberge> DShepherd: did you try #gnome
[05:09] <DShepherd> vanberge: ok
[05:09] <vanberge> Sivik: chown -R foldername username?  somethign like that
[05:09] <Sivik> vanberge: i will try that
[05:09] <vanberge> or chown -R username foldtername
[05:10] <vanberge> i mix the two up
[05:10] <DShepherd> vanberge: by the way.. have you ever used the gnome keyboard applet?
[05:10] <eps> no no no no no
[05:10] <eps> chown -R username:userground foldername  ...use correct syntax always!
[05:10] <Sivik> eps: yeah, i got it
[05:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how can i get the last console debug output?
[05:11] <tourent> what package do i need to install to make the normal ubuntu installation (gnome) into kubuntu?
[05:11] <eps> gnomedesktop or similar
[05:11] <vanberge> DShepherd: no... i usually use fluxbox  :-(  however i am using gnome now, but i am new to it
[05:11] <vanberge> hasn't anybody done an itunes port to linux yet?   :-)
[05:12] <vanberge> mac osx is based on darwin, so it must be doable
[05:12] <varsendaggr> william  http://gambas.sourceforge.net/
[05:12] <varsendaggr> william_,
[05:12] <he11work> anyone here willing to help me get my wireless set up for ubuntu.... im on my windows OS now.. please pm me :D
[05:12] <harry_> how do you run GSM-UTILS????
[05:13] <DShepherd> vanberge: well dont use the keyboard appley.. not until I figure this out
[05:13] <vanberge> DShepherd: lol... tks for tip
[05:13] <vanberge> DShepherd: #gnome?  #gnome-users   no help there?
[05:13] <DShepherd> vanberge: i;m there.. asking there now
[05:14] <he11work> anyone know how to get a belkin g wireless F5D7000 ver.6000 wireless card to work???
[05:14] <vanberge> well i have to sleep... brb peeps
[05:15] <varsendaggr> william_, you can apt-get install gambas
[05:16] <KevinIN72> how do i get ftp access to my server??
[05:16] <[Ex0r] > anyone here have a problem with frostwire freezing up every couple of times its loaded ?
[05:16] <he11work> anyone know how to get a belkin g wireless F5D7000 ver.6000 wireless card to work???
[05:17] <rendo> Never used Frostwire Ex0r, so don't know. :D
[05:17] <[Ex0r] > when it gets to Loading Core Components, it freezes up
[05:17] <Dial_tone> anyone have evolution working with bogofilter or spamassassin? my setup clearly needs some tuning.
[05:17] <[Ex0r] > than I have to go into terminal and kill it
[05:17] <rendo> Maybe it's a bad install Ex0r?
[05:17] <KevinIN72> must not like the kernel
[05:18] <william_> Awesome thanks
[05:18] <william_> I really want to use this program though ...
[05:18] <william_> http://www.kbasic.com/download.html
[05:18] <william_> But I cant get the proper files to get it working
[05:18] <Cornellius> Kbasic ?
[05:19] <made> hello all..
[05:20] <made> I'm on my 3rd re installation of 6.06 reinstall..
[05:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why?
[05:20] <thomas> guys i'm having major issues with hibernation, upon resuming, my video doesn't initialize or something.
[05:20] <thomas> can somebody help me fix this problem?
[05:20] <made> due to xgl/compiz.. I can't seem to get in contact with anybody from the #xgl
[05:20] <Cornellius> william_: Be sure to have QT > = 3.3.3
[05:20] <Sivik> made: try irssi in command line
[05:21] <prwlr> when the error "C++ compiler can't make executables" come up upon configure of an app (fme) what do i do to fix it? thanks
[05:21] <Sivik> prwlr, you need to install the build-essential
[05:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: whats the problem with xgl that u have?
[05:21] <he11work> anyone know how to get a belkin g wireless F5D7000 ver.6000 wireless card to work???
[05:21] <Sivik> prwlr, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:21] <thomas> !ndiswrapper
[05:21] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[05:22] <he11work> thanks ubotu
[05:22] <matheus> hello!!!
[05:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> hello!!!!
[05:22] <made> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: it doesn't work in the way it should (cubed workspaces, wobbly)
[05:22] <theprophet> Hello
[05:22] <matheus> anyone use nvidia driver by nvidia ?
[05:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: ha , ur lucky u got that much to work
[05:22] <thomas> !anyone
[05:22] <theprophet> Nope Ati
[05:22] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:22] <prwlr> thanks Sivik !
[05:22] <Sivik> matheus, just use the nvida driver that you can get via apt-get
[05:22] <made> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I had it working at one time completely
[05:22] <Sivik> prwlr, yw
[05:22] <theprophet> lol
[05:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: which compiz did u use?
[05:23] <theprophet> Yeah good comment ubotu
[05:23] <made> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: then I started getting random errors and lock ups
[05:23] <thomas> ubotu is always right.
[05:23] <made> the latest from cvs
[05:23] <matheus> Sivik, I had downloaded from the nvidia.com
[05:23] <theprophet> LMAO
[05:23] <made> quinnstorm
[05:23] <thomas> don't use that.
[05:23] <thomas> no good.
[05:23] <theprophet> WHat
[05:23] <thomas> the compiz in repositories is good for use.
[05:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: yes but there are like 4 different compiz packages
[05:23] <Sivik> matheus, its better to use the nvidia that you can get via apt-get, it works easier, but whats the problem?
[05:24] <matheus> Sivik, I see in many foruns that driver works better then nvidia-glx
[05:24] <Sivik> matheus, i use the one from apt-get
[05:24] <william_> Hwo do I find Be sure to have QT > = 3.3.3?
[05:24] <Sivik> matheus, i don't think i'm using the glx
[05:24] <made> quinnstorm is the one that I used when I actually had it working correctly
[05:24] <william_> with apt get?
[05:24] <alpha255> thomas:  does compiz work for 915gm chipsets?
[05:24] <_Spire_> !xggl
[05:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about xggl
[05:24] <_Spire_> !xgl
[05:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:24] <alpha255> thomas: centrino laptop here
[05:24] <thomas> alpha255 i wouldn't know i don't use intel motherboards.
[05:24] <Sivik> matheus, ok, maybe i am
[05:25] <_Spire_> alpha255: try checking in the howto
[05:25] <matheus> Sivik, my troble is... I had install the driver... and works fine
[05:25] <alpha255> thomas: ok
[05:25] <alpha255> _Spire_: will do
[05:25] <Sivik> matheus, ok, and the problem now?
[05:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: there is compiz, compiz-kde, compiz-gnome , compiz-vanilla-gnome, and compiz-vanilla
[05:25] <made> compiz-gnome
[05:25] <matheus> Sivik, but when I reboot the system... I need to install again to work
[05:25] <Sivik> matheus, every time you reboot?
[05:26] <matheus> Sivik, yes
[05:26] <Sivik> matheus, thats stupid, not sure what your problem is
[05:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: i think thats the one that has all the cool stuff in it
[05:26] <brimble> Oh I Know...I Know...I know what his problem is
[05:26] <Sivik> alpha255, did you google it to see if it would work?
[05:26] <Sivik> brimble, would you plese inform both him and me on the problem?
[05:26] <Sivik> alpha255, or use the ubuntu forums
[05:26] <matheus> Sivik, the driver is installed... but any module isn't loading in boot time
[05:26] <made> yeah from what I have heard compiz-kde is still crapped out and vanilla if I'm correct is for gentoo..
[05:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: remember its an alpha software , so dont expect it to work, and unless u have some specific bugs to report no one will prabably listen to u
[05:27] <Sivik> matheus, not sure what the problem is, as brimble
[05:27] <alpha255> Sivik: thnx looking there right now
[05:27] <Sivik> alpha255, yw
[05:27] <thomas> asking for help is totally cool though, but asking in #ubuntu-xgl will yield better results.
[05:27] <matheus> humm... what is brimble ??
[05:27] <matheus> :)
[05:27] <_Spire_> maybe you should try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, like thomas said
[05:27] <Sivik> matheus, he was a person online
[05:28] <made> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: even if it is alpha I should be able to install it correctly every time I attempt to do so.. I don't understand why I get different results every time I try to install
[05:28] <matheus> ok
[05:28] <Sivik> matheus, i'm not sure how to fix it
[05:28] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: what video card do u have?
[05:28] <Sivik> matheus, what kind of card?
[05:28] <matheus> old car geforce 2
[05:28] <matheus> card
[05:28] <Sivik> matheus, not sure
[05:29] <Sivik> matheus, i have a 6600 and it works quite well with the nvidia-glx
[05:29] <thomas> i think i heard you need gforce4 or above for glx...
[05:29] <thomas> don't ask me though... ati guy here..
[05:29] <alpha255> hat's off the ubuntu forms folks ... lots of good stuff there
[05:29] <alpha255> :)
[05:29] <Sivik> thomas, ati is nasty
[05:29] <matheus> with the nvidia driver, when is working... the diference is great
[05:29] <Sivik> thomas, especially with linux
[05:30] <thomas> Sivik they also provide hundreds of jobs in my area.
[05:30] <theprophet> lol
[05:30] <theprophet> Nice come back
[05:30] <Sivik> thomas, yucky
[05:30] <thomas> well i've never had a problem.
[05:30] <HLM> ubotu: what is xgl ?
[05:30] <Sivik> thomas: i just don't like them
[05:30] <theprophet> Yeah me neither
[05:30] <snooflecake> What is the command for symlinks (if that's how you spell it)
[05:30] <Sivik> HLM: whats your problem?
[05:31] <thomas> snooflecake ln -s
[05:31] <snooflecake> thomas; thanks a lot
[05:31] <made> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT
[05:31] <thomas> :D
[05:31] <HLM> just don't know what xgl is
[05:31] <Sivik> made: nice card
[05:31] <matheus> Sivik, I will fix the problem by never turn off the computer again ! :)
[05:31] <Sivik> !xgl
[05:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:31] <thomas> xgl is 3D accelerated drivers
[05:31] <M-> HLM, a 3D-accelerated X-windows server. It's currently alpha-grade software.
[05:31] <Moc> xgl and compiz is freaking GREAT...
[05:31] <made> Sivik: thnx
[05:31] <Sivik> HLM: xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL
[05:31] <thomas> most definitely.
[05:31] <Moc> ubuntu make it so easy to install also
[05:31] <Sivik> made: i have a 6600, how much ram?
[05:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: i might have an old driver or something , so far ive seen bunch of people have it working with nvidia cards and gnome
[05:32] <buzzed> i want to expose a port on my ubuntu box ...
[05:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> made: u
[05:32] <buzzed> any thoughts?
[05:32] <made> Sivik: 256
[05:32] <HLM> thanks that helps me understand
[05:32] <harry_> what application do I have to use in ubuntu  when transfering music to IPOD?
[05:32] <Moc> I wish ubuntu had better wireless support
[05:32] <thomas> buzzed for what purpose?
[05:32] <Sivik> Mox: what card?
[05:32] <thomas> harry_ banshee is the best i've seen.
[05:32] <thomas> :D
[05:32] <Sivik> made: nice
[05:32] <Moc> Sivik: My card work number 1, my problem is when I go from home to work, I have to reconfigure it.
[05:33] <thomas> harry_ there is also gtkpod as well.
[05:33] <made> Sivik, yeah it was only $155 USD
[05:33] <harry_> thomas: does ubuntu automatically detects ipod when connected?
[05:33] <M-> harry_, rythmbox works nicely for me out of the box with dapper
[05:33] <alpha255> what about rythumbox?
[05:33] <Sivik> Mox: thats weird
[05:33] <made> like a year ago
[05:33] <M-> harry_, yeah
[05:33] <alpha255> it reconzied my ipod nano
[05:33] <thomas> harry_ yeah, but whether or not you have software to deal with it is another story.
[05:33] <Sivik> Moc: what do you mean reconfigure it, like the iwconfig stuff?
[05:33] <alpha255> recognized
[05:33] <harry_> thomas: did yours was detected automatically???
[05:33] <M-> rythymbox comes with dapper.
[05:34] <chotchki> hey guys im trying to get fglrx working but when I check fglrxinfo i get the following error "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." however i do have the dri module enabled in the x.org file.... any ideas?
[05:34] <made> I wish Automatix would just make a script for XGL/Compiz already..
[05:34] <thomas> harry_ i use creative mp3 players.
[05:34] <buzzed> my home cumputer that is on a wireless network
[05:34] <M-> harry_, mine was (4Gen 20GB model with USB)
[05:34] <Moc> Sivik: I try to stay away from cmd line operations as possible (unless I configure a server, then it no GUI).  I am talking about the network management in ubuntu
[05:34] <alpha255> harry_:  i'm running dapper drake and yes
[05:34] <buzzed> thomas:
[05:34] <alpha255> harry_: haven't transfered music to the nano yet though
[05:34] <thomas> buzzed:
[05:34] <thomas> :D
[05:34] <Sivik> Moc: thats true even in windows
[05:34] <Moc> It has option to create multiple Profile, but when I try to switch from 1 of them, it doesn't switch, it just freeze there
[05:34] <anilruby> Minimum requirements for installing from Ubuntu 6.06LTS livecd[PC] ?
[05:34] <Moc> Sivik: Windows isn't perfect for wireless, but work better than ubuntu
[05:35] <buzzed> thomas: i want to expose a port for a tomcat server
[05:35] <_Spire_> !reqs
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about reqs
[05:35] <thomas> anilruby, 128mb memory is about all you need
[05:35] <thomas> and about 2 gigs of hard drive
[05:35] <Sivik> Moc: you have to reconfigure whenever you change aps, which is normal in windows as well
[05:35] <Moc> anilruby: Get it, burn it and try it.
[05:35] <snooflecake> Ubuntu works a lot better with my wireless card <3 ubuntu
[05:35] <Sivik> snooflecake, what card?
[05:35] <_Spire_> anilruby: 3GB is even better
[05:35] <snooflecake> let me get it out of the bag
[05:36] <snooflecake> it's linksys pc smart card or something?
[05:36] <Moc> Sivik: Nah, in windows it will detect the SSID and get the right configuration
[05:36] <_Spire_> something like the "comfortable minimum"
[05:36] <thomas> yeah i'm just saying the bear minimums..
[05:36] <anilruby> thomas, but it really takes more time on my system (256MB Ram, 1.7Ghz P4)
[05:36] <stevekl> How do you navigate to network file systems in vlc's "file - quick open file" dialog?
[05:36] <frevaria> hello everybody
[05:36] <stevekl> I can't seem to get to it
[05:36] <Sivik> Moc: so in network manager all you have to do is tell it the essid and tell it dhcp, its not that difficult
[05:36] <stevekl> anyone know
[05:36] <thomas> anilruby thats plenty fine trust me, and i'm guessing you have a decent sized hard drive
[05:36] <Moc> Sivik: but everytime I come from home to work I have to do it, it getting anoying
[05:36] <anilruby> thomas, but it really takes more time on my system (256MB Ram, 1.7Ghz P4), it hangs while choosing country time!
[05:36] <snooflecake> Sivik;  "Instant Wireless Network PC Card" Linksys  (Worked really nice in Professional, but freezes in Home)
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, are they mounted filesystems?
[05:37] <frevaria> no hello to /me ?
[05:37] <stevekl> I tried playing it from nautilus and that wouldn't work
[05:37] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, yes, and I can navigate through them in nautilus
[05:37] <Moc> not fun to remember all my 13 char hex key also
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, do they appear in df when you type 'df' on a command line?
[05:37] <Sivik> snooflecake, thats cool
[05:37] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, yes
[05:37] <anilruby> thomas yeah, but the installation time is much more than Breezy(5.10)?
[05:37] <Sivik> Moc: oh well
[05:38] <wims> how do i check which kernel version i have
[05:38] <_Spire_> wims: uname -r
[05:38] <Sivik> man /proc/version
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, what filesystem are you using?
[05:38] <wims> cheers
[05:38] <thomas> anilruby, maybe because it's installing in a live environment
[05:38] <william_> ok so I want to install k basic
[05:38] <william_> But I need that QT file
[05:38] <Moc> Ubuntu is great, but still need polishing on some basic feature.  Funny how Advanced stuff like XGL work, but can't get basic switch from 2 access point ;)
[05:38] <jwickard> When I used suse with gnome, there was a program I had installed that had an icon on the desktop for secure deletion of files, you just tossed the file in there and I think it used shredder.  Anyone know what program I'm talking about.
[05:38] <anilruby> thomas, then How to install in text mode?
[05:38] <william_> how do I get it to work on ubuntu?
[05:38] <frevaria> omg what are u guys talking bout????????????
[05:38] <thomas> Moc, use network manager?
[05:38] <anilruby> without live env?
[05:38] <wims> are there any 'easy' way to upgrade the kernel except configuring it and compiling ?
[05:38] <Moc> thomas: yes
[05:39] <KevinIN72> can anyone help me out with ftp
[05:39] <_Spire_> frevaria: bunch of support/ubuntu stuff
[05:39] <_Spire_> KevinIN72: depends on the issue :)
[05:39] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, actually now that I check it, it doesn't
[05:39] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, but nautilus can see it
[05:39] <thomas> anilruby, you don't.
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> frevaria, are you just flying by?
[05:39] <KevinIN72> _Spire_: how do i get it to work
[05:39] <frevaria> i can help Kevin
[05:39] <anilruby> thomas, I dont have choice, 6KBps download speed
[05:39] <Moc> anilruby: ouch
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, are you using "connect to server"?
[05:39] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, on what? The remote machine?
[05:39] <KevinIN72> well i having trouble getting to understand how it works
[05:39] <KevinIN72> !ftp
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:39] <_Spire_> KevinIN72: a server or client?
[05:39] <thomas> anilruby, if you already have the disc, then you don't need the internet.
[05:40] <Moc> I am so happy since we have 10Mbits/sec download on our cable modem
[05:40] <frevaria> typeftp in command windo
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, what type of connection do you have? samba/ssh/ftp
[05:40] <thomas> proftpd is the one you want.
[05:40] <KevinIN72> well i want to be able to access it from a client
[05:40] <frevaria> then ask for help
[05:40] <anilruby> " proftpd is the one you want." what is that?
[05:40] <frevaria> a program
[05:40] <Sivik> anilruby, its a ftp program that allows for an ftp server
[05:40] <Moc> Anyone know how to fix video playback with XGL and ATI card ?
[05:40] <_Spire_> KevinIN72: ftp client? try 'ftp' from the command line. if you want a server, I recommend proftpd or vsftpd
[05:40] <thomas> anilruby, i was talking to KevinIN72, but its an ftp server.
[05:41] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, samba
[05:41] <thomas> Moc, use very small res videos
[05:41] <thomas> :D
[05:41] <thomas> lol.
[05:41] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, so i take it remote machine is windows?
[05:41] <KevinIN72> ok
[05:41] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, no it's also ubuntu
[05:41] <Moc> Im running in 1024x768.  My video color isnt just right...
[05:41] <Moc> like if they are out of phase
[05:41] <thomas> Moc make sure you're using 24 bit.
[05:41] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, ok i recommend using ssh for things like that - its a bit easier and more secure too... i dont know much about samba tho
[05:42] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, I think we're getting off-topic...I want to know where in the directory tree nautilus mounts fileshares
[05:42] <frevaria> so i have a question. is this ubunto any better than Suse 10.1?
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, if you want tho, you can use ssh seamlessly like its a local filesystem
[05:42] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, but I need to stream this file
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, nautilus doesnt mount them in mtab
[05:42] <HBuzacott> frevaria, what do you want to do?
[05:42] <Moc> I am
[05:42] <mzuverink> Can anyone tell me the default location for the brown dapper gnome-splashscreen
[05:42] <bluefoxicy> I have all my e-mail in Thunderbird
[05:42] <stevekl> Ok, so where do I find it when i'm in an application and I do file > open?
[05:42] <bluefoxicy> can i migrate it to evolution?
[05:42] <frevaria> im using Suse and it does all i want
[05:42] <stevekl> Nobody knows?
[05:42] <thomas> stevekl use samba if you need streaming.
[05:42] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, nautilus uses a gnome-style mounting thing that is more like a file browser
[05:42] <stevekl> thomas, I AM using samba
[05:43] <Moc> bluefoxicy: Funny... I migrated from evolution to thunderbird ;)
[05:43] <stevekl> I know, I know, but I want to know how to get to my network shares in something other than nautilus.
[05:43] <stevekl> Does that make sense?
[05:43] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, you might need to use smbmount
[05:43] <thomas> another file manager
[05:43] <thomas> yeah i understand now
[05:43] <frevaria> evolution does not work with my IMAP server
[05:43] <ashzilla> Hi: VMserver users: Should I split my Virtual Machine into 2GB sections (It is selected by default, and I'm not sure if it's better or worse to do that)
[05:43] <DShepherd> Does anyone know what is causing this error? => <a href="http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?">error</a>
[05:43] <thomas> what file manager are you using stevekl?
[05:43] <bluefoxicy> Moc:  I have never tried Evo.
[05:43] <eps> frevaria, why not?
[05:43] <stevekl> thomas, nautilus...
[05:44] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, iirc, smbmount will mount it like a local filesystem
[05:44] <frevaria> no idea - its working ok with POP
[05:44] <stevekl> I know, but I was hoping I could do it with just the GUI
[05:44] <Moc> bluefoxicy: I personally find everything in it too big.  Have to scroll and scroll all the time to see anything..
[05:44] <thomas> stevekl you want to "connect to server"
[05:44] <Moc> thunderbird allow me to view all my emails without scrolling..
[05:44] <stevekl> thomas, No...look, I already have the share mounted in nautilus, and it's working fine.
[05:44] <thomas> and you can browse to the samba directory you want to mount
[05:45] <thomas> stevekl, but you want it to mount at startup?
[05:45] <stevekl> thomas, but I want to browse it when i'm in an application like VLC and I do file > open
[05:45] <stevekl> thomas, no
[05:45] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone here who can help troubleshoot a stack trace?
[05:45] <thomas> stevekl, so mount it somewhere easy to find, manually.
[05:45] <Moc> bluefoxicy: if your email are on a IMAP server, just set your email on both software and it will syncronise.  If it Pop3 then I dont know what you can do.  Unless you dump all of them into a IMAP server
[05:45] <thomas> stevekl, you can mount anything, anywhere you want
[05:45] <stevekl> thomas, I know. I was just hoping I could do it some other way
[05:45] <thomas> stevekl, you can mount it inside of your home folder, and you can browse to it like that.
[05:46] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, you will have to use smbmount if you want it to be accessible directly for other apps
[05:46] <stevekl> I know...
[05:46] <stevekl> ok.
[05:46] <stevekl> That's all I wanted to know
[05:46] <Moc> it be nice if we could rightclick and tell a folder to be mounted, but that would requires root right I guess
[05:46] <thomas> stevekl, well basically, thinks mount in /media or /mnt. thats how it works across the board in linux.
[05:46] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, sshfs is easier tho IMO
[05:46] <HBuzacott> frevaria, then why change?
[05:46] <stevekl> You can't stream over sshfs.
[05:46] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, i can...
[05:46] <Moc> nfs
[05:46] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone here who can help troubleshoot a stack trace?
[05:46] <stevekl> Well ok I was told wrong then
[05:46] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, it acts like a local filesystem
[05:47] <alpha255> what's the difference between compiz-vanilla and quinn's ?
[05:47] <stevekl> It would be nice if you could mount a share in nautilus and be able to access it from any other application
[05:48] <stevekl> Withotu having to touch the terminal
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, by stream you mean just "opening" the file locally in vlc or such right?
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, coz sshfs will do that
[05:48] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, startting vlc and opening the file which is on a mounted network share
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, yep sshfs will do that - and if i remember smbmount will do that too
[05:48] <stevekl> I know smbmount can do it, that's how I was doing it previously
[05:49] <alpha255> stevekl: connect to server via ssh smb nfs  will work for me
[05:49] <Cornellius> Is there a quick way to see how much free space we have on the HD ?
[05:49] <stevekl> But I was just hoping there was a point-and-click way, you know?
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> Cornellius, df -H
[05:49] <Arafangion> Hmm.
[05:49] <alpha255> stevekl: an icon shows up on the desktop and you can double click on it
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, ya it wouldve been nice... but you'd have to copy file locally to do that in nautilus
[05:49] <thomas> stevekl, add it to fstab, and you'll only have to do it once.
[05:49] <Arafangion> Wierd, I'm loosing the first letter from every line in irssi!
[05:49] <Cornellius> pppoe_dude: Thanks
[05:50] <stevekl> I'll try that. So, what, do I ssh into the server machine and set up /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[05:51] <stevekl> Neat, the stuff I already set up with nautilus is already there
[05:51] <stevekl> that should be easy enough
[05:51] <DShepherd> Does anyone know what is causing this error? => http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-4.jpg
[05:52] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone here who can help troubleshoot a stack trace?
[05:52] <alpha255> stevekl: virtual file system over ssh is nice
[05:52] <alpha255> :)
[05:53] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, hi again. You can take screenshots of just one windows with alt-print
[05:53] <stevekl> I was always told sshfs can't stream
[05:54] <HBuzacott> !tell HBuzacott about XKB
[05:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about xkb
[05:54] <thomas> !make me a sandwich
[05:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about make me a sandwich
[05:55] <thomas> !find xkb
[05:55] <ubotu> Found: libxkbfile-dev, libxkbfile1, libxkbfile1-dbg, libxkbui-dev, libxkbui1 (and 7 others)
[05:55] <thomas> those installed man?
[05:55] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, ssh with nautilus doesnt stream... but sshfs does
[05:55] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: yeah.. if my keyboard would just work
[05:56] <stevekl> IN the meantime, does anyone know how to get totem working with w32codecs?
[05:56] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, install totem-xine
[05:56] <thomas> totemxine
[05:56] <thomas> yeah.
[05:56] <stevekl> oh
[05:56] <jwickard> does anyone know what package it is that puts the secure delete icon onto the gnome desktop?
[05:56] <thomas> and then of course... install w32codecs ..
[05:56] <thomas> !restricted
[05:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:56] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, at least we know it is a problem with x. have you done a dpkg-reconfigure
[05:56] <HBuzacott> ?
[05:57] <rot> I just reinstalled my Ubuntu system and had a few problems resurecting my data. I copied it all back to my /home directory, but it has root as owner... how do I change owner for every file within /home/michael???
[05:57] <thomas> jwickard, go into gconf editor, and you can configure nautilus so that shift delete permanently deletes stuff
[05:57] <eclypse> anyone know why fglrxinfo is saying 'unable to open display :0'?
[05:57] <rot> I can't even log on right now w/ it
[05:57] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: tons of times...
[05:57] <HBuzacott> rot, sudo chmod -R 777
[05:57] <thomas> there you go
[05:57] <thomas> :D
[05:57] <pppoe_dude> rot, sudo chown -R <user> <directory>
[05:57] <TSCHAK> hello, my laptop doesn't show the "Suspend" option when shutting down... how is this determined?
[05:57] <thomas> do both.
[05:57] <TSCHAK> can I force it?
[05:58] <eclypse> anyone know why fglrxinfo is saying 'unable to open display :0'?
[05:58] <rot> pppoe_dude, will that include containing folders??
[05:58] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, is it a wireless keyboard, or a usb, or just an old fashioned connection
[05:58] <thomas> eclypse, have you rebooted yet?
[05:58] <pppoe_dude> rot, thats what the -R is for
[05:58] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: old
[05:58] <stevekl> *sigh* are the standard apt repositories down for anyone else?
[05:58] <eclypse> thomas...wtf
[05:58] <thomas> rot yes
[05:58] <rot> ok, ty
[05:58] <stevekl> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)] 
[05:58] <stevekl> stuck there
[05:58] <eclypse> thomas....dude omfg, thi shas been an on going problem for liek a week
[05:58] <thomas> eclypse after installing fglrx, have you rebooted yet?
[05:58] <eclypse> thomas, of COURSE lol
[05:58] <thomas> !ati
[05:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:58] <thomas> all i can tell you.
[05:58] <stevekl> there it goes
[05:58] <eclypse> ...
[05:58] <thomas> follow the guide.
[05:58] <eclypse> your useless
[05:58] <thomas> thanks man
[05:59] <thomas> come back soon
[05:59] <eclypse> yous is far more complex then what you may think
[05:59] <thomas> the wiki has everything you need to know
[05:59] <pppoe_dude> stevekl, they were down this morning for me
[05:59] <M-> eclypse, that's generally related to xauth. are you running fglrxinfo as another user (as opposed to the one that's running x)
[05:59] <eclypse> umm, to hell it does.
[05:59] <eclypse> M-, this problem occured when I attempted to install XGL
[05:59] <stevekl> pppoe_dude, comcast is all wonky lately so I couldn't tell if it was just me
[05:59] <eclypse> M-, its uninstalled now, however
[06:00] <M-> eclypse, weird shit.
[06:00] <thomas> eclypse did you have up gdm.conf-custom?
[06:00] <eclypse> M-:and I restored my gdm.conf and my gdm.conf-custom
[06:00] <thomas> k...
[06:00] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, What is the result of a xprop root | grep XKB?
[06:00] <pppoe_dude> rot, dont do the chmod that will change a lot of permissions that you probably dont need
[06:00] <thomas> you didn't do the whole replace /etc/X11/X link from /usr/bin/xorg/ to /usr/bin/xgl did you?
[06:01] <paradizelost> hey all, anyone here who can help troubleshoot a stack trace?
[06:01] <rot> pppoe_dude, they are set at 700 now
[06:01] <rot> pppoe_dude, should I stick with that?
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> rot, ok ;) not the 777 tho ;)
[06:01] <pppoe_dude> rot, the chown would change the owner to <user>
[06:02] <thomas> yeah rot do both chmod and chown.
[06:02] <rot> pppoe_dude, what do you suggest doing - I have the owner set right, but idk what to do for permissions
[06:02] <thomas> both with -R
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> rot, 700 allows everything for the owner nothing for others
[06:02] <kholerabbi> What's the difference between OSS and ALSA?
[06:02] <thomas> Alsa is much better :D
[06:02] <NickGarvey> alsa owns
[06:02] <thomas> lol.
[06:02] <NickGarvey> ;)
[06:02] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: a cursor
[06:02] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, ?
[06:02] <rot> pppoe_dude, should 755 be good??
[06:03] <kholerabbi> ..OK, but what about via wine, should I use the ALSA driver?
[06:03] <thomas> lots of cross platform apps use OSS, just because OSS is cross platform
[06:03] <thomas> yeah if you have alsa installed.
[06:03] <pppoe_dude> rot, yes
[06:03] <kolaje> Is there a command to see the freespace on the ubuntu filesystem and/or other partitions?
[06:03] <kholerabbi> ok, chers
[06:03] <thechris> Rot: 4=read.  2 = write, 1 = execute/list.  thus chmod 765 means owner can read/write/execute, group can read/write, and anyone can read/execute.
[06:03] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, what do you mean 'a cursor'?
[06:03] <kholerabbi> cheers*
[06:03] <kolaje> Well the diskuse in general?
[06:03] <TSCHAK> kholerabbi: ALSA is a much newer API for sound I/O.. it is overall written better, and tends to handle low latency stuff much better than OSS ever did. not to mention software mixing capabilities if your card doesn't do hardware mixing natively.
[06:03] <stevekl> Is there a good gtk app for modifying /etc/fstab?
[06:03] <NickGarvey> rot: so 755 is owner has full, everyone else can read/execute
[06:04] <thomas> Rot i'm not sure you want to give all of your write abilities to your group members.
[06:04] <NickGarvey> rot: which is what I use on most things
[06:04] <lightstar> kolaje, df -h
[06:04] <kholerabbi> TSCHAK: OK, wines default is JACK though, which isn't installed, should I use that seeing as it's the wine default?
[06:04] <thomas> no.
[06:04] <thomas> use alsa.
[06:04] <kolaje> lightstar: thanks a lot :)
[06:04] <kholerabbi> ok
[06:04] <kholerabbi> :)
[06:04] <george1> hola
[06:04] <TSCHAK> wine uses jack by default now?
[06:04] <pppoe_dude> rot, ### is just the octal representation of the permissions (as yes/no) so 755 would be 111 101 101
[06:04] <rot> yep, have it set the way it probably should be - now to see if I can log in now and quit using root for IRC
[06:04] <TSCHAK> neato, but a wee bit hard to set up
[06:05] <HBuzacott> rot: sudo chown -R <user>:<user> * && sudo chmod -R 755 (replacing <user> with your username)
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> rot, r/w/x for owner/group/all
[06:05] <NickGarvey> all about the binary ;)
[06:05] <lightstar> kolaje, np
[06:05] <rot> cool, never fully figured out how that was done
[06:05] <NickGarvey> theres 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't
[06:05] <rot> ttyl
[06:05] <thomas> eclypse HBuzacott i think he's already finished :D
[06:05] <thomas> whoops eclypse my bad.
[06:05] <eclypse> what?
[06:05] <HBuzacott> thomas, better late than never
[06:06] <thomas> sorry i forgot to erase your name.
[06:06] <HBuzacott> I just picked up the thread
[06:07] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, what is the result of a xprop root | grep XKB
[06:07] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, make that: xprop -root | grep XKB
[06:08] <fishhead> my keyboard stops working at the login screen, can anyone help?
[06:08] <Zambezi> If I write /list I just find one Ubuntu-channel, so there got to be more. Where can I find every channel on Freenode?
[06:08] <HBuzacott> fishhead, can you type in the login
[06:08] <HBuzacott> ?
[06:08] <thomas> Zambezi theres a whole pile of them.
[06:08] <thomas> thousands i imagine
[06:09] <fishhead> HBuzacott: for about half a second... I manage to get about 3 letters in before it stops
[06:09] <thechris> anyone know how i can allow users to start X11 sessions (not kdm)
[06:09] <Zambezi> thomas, I'm looking for a special XBOX-channel, but I can't find any.
[06:09] <dan> i followed this tutorial http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/coldrick?entry=java_development_on_ubuntu_part to install java on ubuntu but my problem is i still have the gnu java thingy on here still
[06:09] <dan> when i type java -version
[06:10] <dan> i dont get sun's java
[06:10] <HBuzacott> fishhead, does the keyboard work on other computers
[06:10] <thomas> zambezi.... if its a group or club or something, google it
[06:10] <dli> how to start the ivman daemon ?
[06:10] <HBuzacott> fishhead, or does it work in the termals?
[06:10] <thomas> dan
[06:10] <thomas> !java
[06:10] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:10] <fishhead> HBuzacott, it's a built in laptop keyboard
[06:10] <Zambezi> thomas, It's there a channel for xbox-scene?
[06:11] <fishhead> HBuzacott, it works in recovery mode
[06:11] <HBuzacott> fishhead, Ok. Type into a  terminal: xprop -root | grep XKB
[06:11] <CarlFK> I need to make a .deb that is just a bunch of dependencies of other debs - all the "how to make a deb" pages involve building binaries, which I don't need - any suggestions?
[06:11] <HBuzacott> fishhead, to get to the terminal press ctrl-alt-bksp
[06:12] <HBuzacott> fishhead, sorry don't do that. press
[06:12] <HBuzacott> crtl-alt-F1
[06:12] <kholerabbi> I have just plugged in a microphone - it doesn't seem to work automatically, how should I install it?
[06:13] <neotard> kholerabbi:  do you have sound?
[06:13] <thomas> zambezi look it up on their website... or google it.
[06:13] <kholerabbi> neotard: yes,
[06:13] <thomas> #ubuntu is not the index of freeNode.
[06:13] <fishhead> HBuzacott, I'm in recovery mode right now, I can't log in to my laptop... talking on my desktop
[06:14] <kholerabbi> Hehe - sorry, the microphone was turn'd off - hehe
[06:14] <HBuzacott> HBuzacott, type in in a Terminal: xprop -root | grep XKB
[06:14] <Zambezi> thomas, But I don't know where too look. This is homemade applications.
[06:14] <neotard> kholerabbi:  then you probably just need to turn it up.  double click on the speaker icon to open the mixer and turn up the volume on the mic
[06:14] <HBuzacott> And what is the result
[06:14] <neotard> kholerabbi:  in that regard it should be no different than any other operating system :)
[06:14] <kholerabbi> neotard: yes, quite, :)
[06:14] <neotard> kholerabbi:  ah :)
[06:14] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "base", "pc101", "us", "", ""
[06:14] <kholerabbi> Thanks ;0
[06:15] <fishhead> HBuzacott, xprop: unable to open display ... then it prints an options menu
[06:15] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, does your keyboard have a super/windows key?
[06:15] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: yes
[06:16] <HBuzacott> fishhead, type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:17] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, do you have a GUI loaded? If yes, open a terminal and type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:17] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: and what?
[06:17] <HBuzacott> if not use: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg
[06:17] <thomas> Zambezi http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=xbox-scene+irc&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[06:17] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, you've got gedit open
[06:17] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: vi.. continue
[06:18] <Frederick> folks anyone heremanaged to have a coloured konsole?
[06:18] <QMario> Thank you!!! :)
[06:19] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, k, scroll down to input device, edit the Keyboard section so that it says 	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
[06:19] <fishhead> HBuzacott, it responded with: dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove
[06:19] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: it already says that
[06:20] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: that's weird though
[06:20] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, strange. and it also says 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"?
[06:20] <Zambezi> thomas, It's on another network.
[06:20] <kolaje> is there a way to write a new line to a textfile without opening the file with an editor?
[06:21] <HBuzacott> fishhead, did it print anything else out?
[06:21] <DShepherd> kolaje: echo maybe?
[06:21] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, hum
[06:21] <Frederick> folks anyone here managed to have a coloured konsole?
[06:21] <DShepherd> kolaje: echo "blah" >> file.txt
[06:22] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, what is the driver and Xbdrule?
[06:22] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: ... puzzled as I am
[06:22] <thomas> zambezi, so connect to that network
[06:22] <thomas> !irc
[06:22] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:22] <thomas> ugh that won't help you
[06:22] <kolaje> DShepherd thanks a lot :)
[06:22] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: kdb <-- driver, xorg.. rules
[06:22] <fishhead> HBuzacott, more menus... Type dpkg --help for help about .... ect
[06:22] <DShepherd> kolaje: sure..
[06:23] <Zambezi> thomas, If I know how to do. I have a BNC. That's causing me problem.
[06:23] <thomas> then google how to use that.
[06:24] <thomas> honestly man, this channel is for help with ubuntu. anything beyond that is asking extra.
[06:24] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: i going to to restart x. brb
[06:24] <fishhead> HBuzacott, oops... I put in a couple of extra spaces when i transposed
[06:24] <thomas> Zambezi use google.
[06:24] <Zambezi> thomas, I hate Google!
[06:25] <Zambezi> thomas, And not even you wouild find out how to add servers on my BNC. I know how to do it on Windows, but not i Linux.
[06:25] <HBuzacott> fishhead, dpkg-recon... working now?
[06:25] <fishhead> HBuzacott, I typed it in right and it returned a warning about overriding the configuration
[06:26] <HBuzacott> fishhead, have you fiddled around with /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:26] <thomas> Zembezi GOOGLE FOR HELP WITH BNC!
[06:26] <HBuzacott> fishhead, if that is so then the warning is fine
[06:27] <thomas> i can't put it any more simply than that
[06:27] <thomas> this is NOT the BNC help irc channel
[06:27] <fishhead> HBuzacott, no I haven't changed anything in that file... at least not intentionally
[06:28] <HBuzacott> fishhead, is it done?
[06:28] <fishhead> HBuzacott, shall i try to reboot it now?
[06:28] <HBuzacott> fishhead, yup
[06:28] <HBuzacott> yes*
[06:28] <thechris> i would like the following:  twinview.  kdesu.  ability to start X11 servers.
[06:29] <thechris> any way to get these working?
[06:30] <thechris> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[06:30] <fishhead> HBuzacott, still no luck...
[06:30] <HBuzacott> fishhead, you have restarted already?
[06:30] <HBuzacott> fishhead, or did you just restart x
[06:30] <HBuzacott> ?
[06:31] <fishhead> HBuzacott, i turned the computer off after exiting the recovery session, then back on
[06:32] <sunco> hello....
[06:32] <HBuzacott> fishhead, so the keyboard works for a very short time?
[06:33] <fishhead> HBuzacott, yes it is a strange issue... it seems like the keyboard stops working at the exact same time that little drum sound plays at the login screen
[06:33] <sunco> my name is Sunco ..nice to meet you.
[06:33] <thomas> ......
[06:33] <fishhead> HBuzacott, I can get a few letters in. but not fast enough to actually log in... the mouse still works though
[06:34] <HBuzacott> fishhead, try pressing ctrl-alt-F1
[06:34] <HBuzacott> fishhead, it should go to a terminal
[06:34] <HBuzacott> does it goto the terminal
[06:34] <HBuzacott> ?
[06:35] <fishhead> HBuzacott, at the login screen?
[06:36] <shreev2k2> hi all. quick question. I hv here a program called obconf which requires a lib called libobrender.so.1 . Now, this lib is present in /opt/lib(actually libobrender.so.1 is a symlink to libobrender.so.2.1), which ldconfig doesnt know about. I entered /opt/lib in ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig, but 'ldconfig -p' still doesnt show libobrender.so.1 though it does show libobrender.so and libobrender.so.0. what am I doing wrong?
[06:36] <McScruff> whats a Network Radio-Ethernet port?
[06:36] <HBuzacott> fishhead, yes. Just try it
[06:37] <fishhead> HBuzacott, it went to a terminal then my keyboard quit
[06:38] <thechris> how to start X11 sessions as a user?  startx didn't work.  sudo startx is a bad idea.  what gives
[06:38] <HBuzacott> fishhead, as in didn't work? so you couldn't type?
[06:39] <fishhead> HBuzacott, I couldn't type
[06:39] <HBuzacott> k
[06:39] <fishhead> HBuzacott, the only button that works is the power button which starts the shutdown dialog
[06:39] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: hey.. something is weird. the xprop -root | grep XKB gives me "base", "pc101", "us", "", "" but it says 104 in the xorg.conf file
[06:40] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, that is what I was think was weird
[06:40] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, what is the Identifier for the Keyboard. scroll down right to the bottom. to the "server layout". Is the same Identifier listed under Input device?
[06:40] <HBuzacott> fishhead, so how did you type in the dpkg-recon... command before?
[06:41] <fishhead> HBuzacott, i was in recovery mode
[06:41] <redblades> Hi, you all probably know in Windows XP how simple it is to check computer stats un My Computer.
[06:41] <HBuzacott> fishhead, ok
[06:41] <redblades> How do I check these things in Linux?
[06:41] <thomas> system monitor...
[06:41] <thomas> its in the menus.
[06:42] <HBuzacott> !tell fishhead about recovery
[06:42] <redblades> Could you point me in a more specific direction?
[06:42] <HBuzacott> HBuzacott, does that help?
[06:43] <HBuzacott> fishhead, does that help?
[06:43] <thomas> system -> administration -> system monitor...
[06:43] <redblades> Got it
[06:43] <timboteam> I am trying out ubuntu on my computer
[06:43] <fishhead> HBuzacott, does what help?
[06:43] <redblades> Good for you
[06:43] <timboteam> and I can't figure out how to connect to my wireless network
[06:43] <jed> can anyone recommend a good filemanager for fluxbox? thanks
[06:44] <thomas> yes... horray for me..
[06:44] <HBuzacott> fishhead, open the msg from ubotu
[06:44] <HBuzacott> !recovery
[06:44] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[06:44] <thechris> jed:  rox?
[06:44] <timboteam> Can anyone help me?
[06:44] <thomas> rox is a good filemanager. might be too flashy for fluxbox though.
[06:44] <fishhead> HBuzacott, ohh... I'll take a look at it now
[06:44] <jed> thechris: tnx
[06:45] <czer323> I've got an uber old computer that I want to put something graphical onto other than win95 for my kid.  It's an old gateway 133mhz, 16mb and I was able to put a slightly larger hd into it.  I can't seem to get the ubuntu cd started, it totall bombs.  Knoppix was able to start, but coudln't start KDE or XFCE.  I haven't tried WindowMake
[06:45] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, the xprop -root | grep should give you the same values as in xorg.confg
[06:45] <HBuzacott> -g
[06:45] <TSCHAK>  does anyone know what to modify to get my laptop to be able to use the sleep/suspend acpi scripts?
[06:45] <timboteam> Can anyone help me out?
[06:46] <shreev2k2> anyone? ldconfig is certainly acting weird. it seems to quietly avoiding one of the symlinks that I've created.
[06:46] <czer323> !justask
[06:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:46] <Sir_Brizz> hah
[06:46] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: they are not the same
[06:46] <czer323> !help
[06:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:46] <timboteam> Well I did, and no one responded
[06:46] <Sir_Brizz> !justask is awesome
[06:46] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: weird..
[06:46] <czer323> lol, yeah i think it's funny.  I just entered, what's up?
[06:46] <timboteam> I can't figure out how to detect and connect to my wireless network
[06:46] <DShepherd> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75052.html <- i found this... HBuzacott. I havent tried it yet though
[06:46] <timboteam> I'm just trying out ubuntu for the first time
[06:46] <redblades> ACtually, the System Monitor gives some numbers that seem different to what I previously had read on... other systems.
[06:46] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, I'll have a look
[06:47] <DShepherd> where is xprop actually getting this info from?
[06:47] <GTroy_> how do you start open ssh?
[06:47] <czer323> timboteam> yeah, i know what you mean.  Check out NetworkManager.  It's great.  I use wireless too.
[06:47] <czer323> !networkmanager
[06:47] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[06:47] <redblades> I was fairly certain I had 512M of ram, but now, it says 501M
[06:47] <bimberi> GTroy_: client or server?
[06:47] <DShepherd> GTroy_: it should auto start after install
[06:47] <GTroy_> server
[06:47] <timboteam> !networkmanager
[06:47] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[06:47] <DShepherd> bimberi: shouldnt it?
[06:47] <fishhead> HBuzacott, downloading the CD now... thanks for your help... I'll keep you updated if you are still around by the time this file downloads
[06:48] <bimberi> GTroy_: see DShepherd's reply :)
[06:48] <czer323> Network manager gives back that ability to just select the wireless network and use it.  Rather than use the menus.  Check the link on it and try to follow it's isntructions to install.  Check back if you still have issues with it.
[06:48] <DShepherd> GTroy_: have you installed the server yet?
[06:48] <GTroy_> no
[06:48] <lufis> Is there a meta package which will download all I need to run xfce?
[06:48] <GTroy_> how?
[06:48] <timboteam> Hmm
[06:48] <HBuzacott> fishhead, probably will still be here. Or away. Either way :)
[06:48] <timboteam> czer323: How do you suppose I will get this onto my laptop from this pc
[06:48] <timboteam> when the laptop doesn't have internet
[06:48] <DShepherd> GTroy_: openssh-server
[06:49] <jed> can i install the gentoo filemanager in ubuntu?
[06:49] <timboteam> the laptop being the one that is running linux right now
[06:49] <DShepherd> GTroy_: apt-get that
[06:49] <GTroy_> ok
[06:49] <czer323> timboteam> no chance you can connect it directly with a cable?
[06:49] <eFoX> ok i seriously give up
[06:49] <bimberi> lufis: xubuntu-desktop brings in a complete xfce4 setup
[06:49] <lufis> Bimberi: Hm, thanks
[06:49] <GTroy_> DSheperd installed
[06:49] <eFoX> i dont understand WHY my wireless would work one day...and then the next day it does not when nothing was changed
[06:49] <GTroy_> how do I start the daemon?
[06:49] <timboteam> Like an ethernet cable?
[06:50] <DShepherd> GTroy_: it should autostart after installation
[06:50] <GTroy_> ok, thanks DSheperd
[06:50] <DShepherd> GTroy_: ok
[06:50] <czer323> timboteam> yeap.  Ethernet if you can.
[06:51] <DShepherd> gtroy sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start -- oops.. he left
[06:51] <coldasfire06> does anybody now of a remote monitoring software for linux?
[06:51] <czer323> eFox> wireless can be a bitch.  I've been using for a few years now and it still gives me headaches.  Have you tried resetting the router to factory defaults and setting up from scratch?  That usually takes care of things with routers.
[06:51] <b166er> How can Mplayer cannot be installed under Dapper ??
[06:52] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, there are some bugs open with KBD issues. Does that message in your screenshot popup at startup?
[06:52] <timboteam> I can't tell which version/file to get from this network manager site
[06:52] <DShepherd> b166er: do you have multiverse installed?
[06:52] <czer323> !networkmanager
[06:52] <b166er> DShepherd,  yes
[06:52] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[06:52] <czer323> Timboteam> let me look real quikc.
[06:52] <timboteam> Okee
[06:53] <DShepherd> sudo aptitude install mplayer should install mplayer
[06:53] <DShepherd> HBuzacott:yeah it did.. but I dont remember if it still does
[06:53] <Zambezi> I'm trying to connect to Efnet, but it won't work. Isn't irc.efnet.nl:6667 a channel?
[06:53] <Zambezi> *networlk
[06:54] <b166er> says it there, but probably obsolete ect..
[06:54] <b166er> i cannot install it
[06:54] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-4.jpg
[06:54] <FarrisG> can anyone help me troubleshoot gotmail? Supposedly the package in dapper works, but I'm still getting errors with it
[06:54] <czer323> Timboteam> Which part of the help do you have issues with?  a particular item?
[06:54] <HBuzacott> DShepherd, there is one that sounds like your problem, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1089 and it says resolved
[06:54] <b166er> !mplayer
[06:54] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[06:54] <timboteam> Well it gives a link to an ftp of where to get network manager
[06:55] <timboteam> but there are a million files and folders, i'm not sure what I need to get
[06:55] <dli> which package for acroread?
[06:55] <czer323> timboteam> nah, you went too far.  Check out the original page.  It has the instructions right there.  It talks about having Dapper.
[06:55] <gore_> oh thank god
[06:55] <gore_> haha
[06:55] <DShepherd> HBuzacott: where is xprop getting is information from?
[06:56] <b166er> i have activated the repos...and mplayer is 'not' there
[06:56] <thechris> apt-get update
[06:56] <timboteam> !networkmanager
[06:56] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[06:57] <DShepherd> b166er: it is.. check your source.list again
[06:57] <DShepherd> b166er: do a apt-get update after that
[06:58] <eFoX> czer323: well..i dont think its my router this time. when i do 'iwlist' it says no scan results
[06:58] <timboteam> I see czer323
[06:58] <timboteam> I am attempting to install it
[06:58] <eFoX> i had that problem yesterday, and i corrected it with the aid of a how-to...today..it was working..and now...its not..
[06:59] <b166er> my sources.list is by default , plus the w32codecs  source...         , all repos have been 'checked'    , it list 18 321 packets' , and the update has been made
[06:59] <b166er> hence, my problem
[06:59] <gore_> can I bug someone for some X11 config help
[06:59] <gore_> is there an auto detection similar to what happens when you install ubuntu to begin with
[07:00] <timboteam> czer323: It says I have to log out and back in again. I know this is probably a stupid question because I'm so new to linux, but how exactly do I do that
[07:00] <czer323> Shit dudes, I keep pressing shift-backspace and it's kill'n me.
[07:00] <czer323> timboteam> top right usually has that power icon.  click on it and it shoudl give you an option to log out.
[07:00] <timboteam> Gotcha
[07:00] <steev-dell> hey all, i've followed the locale bit that ubotu tells about with "locale" - but perl keeps complaining about not having the locales installed, what am i missing?
[07:01] <timboteam> Man, you are helpful
[07:01] <czer323> eFox> How are you connecting wirelessly?  Have you tried to install Networkmanager?  Can you see it in the list?
[07:01] <Zambezi> .
[07:02] <hyperspace> steev-dell: apt-get install --reinstall locales then the english language packs i believe
[07:02] <b166er> DShepherd,  out of ideas.  mplayer, is just 'not there' and its a fresh installl of dapper..if yo uthink its the sources... you can show me yours, and i'll compare..otherwise..
[07:02] <hyperspace> i had the problem on a few xen virtual servers earlier today
[07:02] <steev-dell> hyperspace: what are the english language packs?
[07:02] <DShepherd> !sources
[07:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[07:03] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer
[07:03] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[07:03] <DShepherd> b166er: check those..
[07:03] <gore_> is there something that automatically creates a new xorg.conf file?
[07:03] <Zambezi> Does anyone know /addserver? I don't want to addnetwork. I would like to show them, and delete them!
[07:03] <hyperspace> steev-dell: not sure let me see if i can find their names
[07:03] <rob_p> gore_, Try, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' at the command prompt.
[07:03] <DShepherd> !tell b166er about sources
[07:03] <eFoX> czer323: I do have network manager, but i find it to be rather lacking, because it doesnt always connect. And even when my wireless WAS working, I couldnt get a list of networks seen by the wifi card. What im doin now is re-doing the how-to and see if that fixes it
[07:03] <thoreauputic> gore_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:03] <eFoX> it sucks cuz i might not always have an ethernet connection
[07:03] <steev-dell> eFoX: make sure the interface isn't set in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:04] <czer323> Timboteam> np man.  Just remember, i'm just a regular guy like everyone else who's just been messing around a bit longer.  Maybe in the future, you'll come back and help people too. ;)
[07:04] <timboteam> Perhaps, but for now I still have to figure this out
[07:04] <gore_> rob_p,  yah but unfortunately
[07:04] <timboteam> It isn't really connecting
[07:04] <eFoX> steev-dell: if i remove EVERYTHING from there, would that be a good idea ?
[07:04] <gore_> I dont know the specifications to the card
[07:04] <HiColonic> Howdy all.
[07:04] <steev-dell> eFoX: i just commented them out myself
[07:04] <timboteam> It won't connect to my network, though now it sees it
[07:04] <eFoX> steev-dell: k, let me try.
[07:04] <gore_> its not an automatic process which I hope it would be
[07:05] <L-----D> HiColonic: yo
[07:05] <steev-dell> it will also depend on the card itself
[07:05] <hyperspace> steev-dell: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall locales language-pack-en-base language-pack-en
[07:05] <hyperspace> that might be it
[07:05] <timboteam> I'm not sure which configurations to choose when I'm typing in the wep key and such
[07:05] <czer323> eFox> Gotcha.  And you've got the computer and the wireless right next to eachother?
[07:05] <hyperspace> that is if en is your language pack
[07:05] <HiColonic> I'm new to Ubuntu...just got my first system up today.  I was wondering if anyone knows about how long it takes a 500 gig drive to partition to ext3?  Is 1.5 hours too long to wait?
[07:05] <spikeb_> hmmm
[07:05] <Yonda> Is there any way to run gnome and view and control the desktop via SSH?
[07:06] <spikeb_> HiColonic: well, did you wait that long and have it complete?
[07:06] <hyperspace> tunnel vnc over ssh?
[07:06] <spikeb_> Yonda: yes
[07:06] <TSCHAK> Yonda, either tunnel VNC over SSH, or use NX.
[07:06] <kazil> good mornin`
[07:06] <TSCHAK> NX tends to work better, but it doesn't control your main display.
[07:06] <HiColonic> No, I stopped it, because I thought it hung.  It's an External USB drive I plan on using as a backup drive for other comps on the network.
[07:06] <eFoX> czer323: ya. router, desktop and laptop are all on the same table. At least right now. My cables arent that long.
[07:06] <czer323> Timboteam> retype that last bit.  I keep resetting my X11 session.  I have GOT to figure out this keyboard combo.
[07:06] <HiColonic> Then I installed gparted and I'm doing it again.
[07:06] <kaizoku> I keep getting a "MP BIOS bug: error:8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC
[07:07] <kaizoku> I keep getting a "MP BIOS bug: error:8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC" every time I try to install ubuntu
[07:07] <timboteam> Czer323: I'm still having some trouble getting into my network
[07:07] <timboteam> network manager finds it, but wont connect
[07:07] <HiColonic> But since there is no percentage telling me the progress of the format, I thought I'd check and see what kind of wait time I'm looking at.
[07:07] <kaizoku> I keep getting a "MP BIOS bug: error:8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC" every time I try to install ubuntu
[07:07] <czer323> eFoX> Ah yeah, the passowrd thing is really dependant on the router.  You've probably set some type of Encryption on the router.  YOu'll need to log into it and check if it's WEP or WPA.
[07:08] <kaizoku> I can't find anything in the wiki, or anywhere else
[07:08] <czer323> eFox> let me think for a minute.
[07:08] <eFoX> czer323: wep
[07:08] <dooglus> Yonda: FreeNX is very good
[07:08] <czer323> Timboteam> Ah yeah, the passowrd thing is really dependant on the router.  You've probably set some type of Encryption on the router.  YOu'll need to log into it and check if it's WEP or WPA.
[07:08] <kaizoku> I keep getting a "MP BIOS bug: error:8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC" every time I try to install ubuntu
[07:08] <kaizoku> I can't find anything in the wiki, or anywhere else
[07:08] <Yonda> dooglus, thanks ill look into that
[07:08] <kleedrac> Is there a way to automatically cycle through desktop wallpapers?
[07:09] <timboteam> I know that it is a WEP, and I know the key
[07:09] <eFoX> steev-dell: i just commented everything in /etc/network/interfaces and restarted and now after i logged in..it froze
[07:09] <steev-dell> hmm
[07:09] <dooglus> Yonda: but if you want to control your home desktop, use - um - x11vnc I think it's called
[07:09] <timboteam> But there are other preferences I don't know, like hex things and shared key or whatever
[07:09] <kaizoku> I keep getting a "MP BIOS bug: error:8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC" every time I try to install ubuntu
[07:09] <kaizoku> I keep getting a "MP BIOS bug: error:8254 Timer not connected to IO-APIC" every time I try to install ubuntu
[07:09] <Yonda> dooglus, ok thanks
[07:09] <kaizoku> I can't find anything in the wiki, or anywhere else
[07:09] <kazil> anybody seen cwillu?
[07:10] <dooglus> Yonda: yes, x11vnc.  It's slower than NX, but it lets you control an existing desktop session, whereas NX creates a new login
[07:10] <czer323> timboteam> yeah, just try hex first.  if that doesn't work, just keep trying.  again that's really up to the router.
[07:10] <kaizoku> does anyone know!!!?!?!?
[07:10] <kaizoku> I'm ripping my hair out here!!
[07:10] <garryF> I do not know
[07:10] <kaizoku> ok, thanks
[07:10] <gore_> its asking me to enter the amount of memory in kb
[07:10] <gore_> uuugh
[07:10] <gore_> this is not very automatic
[07:11] <Yonda> dooglus, excellent, sounds like what i want
[07:11] <dooglus> Yonda: freenx isn't available in the ubuntu repositories, but if you add the kanotix repositories, you can install it from there.
[07:12] <ddrj> hey guys out of these 4, which is the latest? Hoary, Breezy, Warty and Dapper?
[07:12] <Xen> does anyone know how i can unrar a rar file that requires a password to view? I already have the apps for unraring
[07:12] <kleedrac> ddrj: dapper
[07:12] <ddrj> Dapper right?
[07:12] <DShepherd> ddrj: your idle
[07:12] <Madpilot> ddrj, Dapper
[07:12] <dooglus> Yonda: the line for /etc/apt/sources.list is: "deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ sid nx"
[07:12] <kazil> ppl, whats the procedure to make ubuntu play music and video files? does it have any codecs in it, or i need to install them, or ubuntu doesn`t need codecs? for mp3, says this is not an audio stream file or smth..
[07:12] <ddrj> haha thanks guys :)
[07:12] <DShepherd> he idle
[07:12] <Yonda> dooglus, cheers
[07:12] <DShepherd> he's*
[07:12] <dooglus> !r-f
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about r-f
[07:12] <ddrj> i'm idle?
[07:12] <dooglus> !restrctedformats
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about restrctedformats
[07:12] <dooglus> !restrictedformats
[07:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:13] <steveeeeee> kazil, have you tried installing codecs from automatix?
[07:13] <DShepherd> ddrj: yup
[07:13] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kazil about mp3
[07:13] <ddrj> oh i SHOULD idle haha ok
[07:13] <dooglus> kazil: that's what you want to read - what ubotu just said
[07:13] <czer323> eFox> My brain isnt' working up to par right now.  But, let me just recap.  The card can see the network, but Networkmanager doesn't?
[07:13] <Xen> does anyone know how i can unrar a rar file that requires a password to view? I already have the apps for unraring
[07:13] <Lynoure> kazil: I think kaffeine plays non-restricted formats by default. Ogg ect.
[07:13] <HedgeMage> kazil: free formats, like ogg vorbis, are already supported... copyright/patent-laden ones are a little extra work, see the links ubotu just gave you
[07:13] <Madpilot> steveeeeee, automatix is not good to recommend
[07:13] <DShepherd> ddrj: are you telling me you know all the names of the distros but dont know the latest?
[07:13] <ddrj> no i was googling on how to install ubuntu from windows
[07:13] <spockboy> howdy all. just set up IrDA via a USB dongle, and i'm a bit confused. i did an `irattach irda0 -s', now how do i actually communicate with that device in a serial fashion? (eg. `echo ATZ > /dev/ttySX')
[07:14] <kazil> thx everybody.
[07:14] <steveeeeee> Madpilot, haha i've heard you guys say that often here, but why?
[07:14] <eFoX> czer323: the card cannot. At least not now. It did earlier today. And networkmanager also cannot see it.
[07:14] <ddrj> and they said use some other distro, but i googled and those 4 came up
[07:14] <kazil> the probl is that i have about 20gigz of mp3
[07:14] <ddrj> and i didn't know which one it was
[07:14] <q_a_z_steve> why is it I can't install Breezy? It never works. I'm still wanting to use this because it's the only CD ver. I've gotten down yet.
[07:14] <Madpilot> steveeeeee, because we've seen too many people say, "I installed automatix and now <something> is broken..." - there are other reasons, but that's the main one
[07:14] <thoreauputic> steveeeeee: because a lot of us spent hours trying to fix systems for people who used automatix
[07:14] <DShepherd> ddrj: ok
[07:14] <ddrj> ok guys, here's another one coming at you from supern00b :) i'm on winxp right now, and i'm trying to install ubuntu to my hd through GRUB, problem is i think i loaded my menu.lst wrong because it says error 17 cannot mount partition
[07:14] <dooglus> kazil: ubuntu will play mp3s just fine if you install the right codec.  see ubotu's URL about RestrictedFormats
[07:14] <steveeeeee> lol i see
[07:15] <eFoX> czer323: i made a script to connect and it has worked good all day today. But then it just stopped working. I mean it goes through the procedure but when it gets to the dhcp it doesnt work at tht point
[07:15] <ddrj> this is right right?
[07:15] <ddrj> title Ubuntu
[07:15] <ddrj> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/linux vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0 rw --
[07:15] <ddrj> initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.gz
[07:15] <ddrj> from my menu.lst file for grub
[07:15] <KenSentMe> !tell ddrj about paste
[07:15] <czer323> eFox> You don't happen have any other OSs on the computer do you?  Perhaps a rogue installation of windows to see if it's just the OS acting up or not?
[07:15] <kazil> dooglus: ok! i just want to play some funky music :) i mean listen to it :)
[07:15] <ddrj> ahhh thanks, heh sorry about that :P
[07:16] <dooglus> !mp3
[07:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:16] <q_a_z_steve> Every time I run the install no matter how I part out my 120GB drive, it says it needs 400MB for the CD files. I checked the file integrity last night and everything is fine!
[07:16] <eFoX> czer323: i have XP on this as well. Oh wait...hm...what if...gimme a sec..let me try something
[07:16] <KenSentMe> Is ubotu changed btw, when i tell someone about something i used to get a message from ubotu, now i don't anymore?
[07:17] <ddrj> because i don't understand why i get an error 17 from grub, when my menu.lst file is written just like ubuntu community online recommended it :\
[07:17] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: yes, new ubotu
[07:17] <dooglus> !ubotu > KenSentMe
[07:17] <kleedrac> ddrj: dapper
[07:17] <kleedrac> Is there a way to automatically cycle through desktop wallpapers?
[07:17] <kleedrac> !cyclewallpapers
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about cyclewallpapers
[07:17] <kleedrac> !rotatewallpapers
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about rotatewallpapers
[07:17] <q_a_z_steve> !wallpaper
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about wallpaper
[07:18] <kleedrac> !wallpapers
[07:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about wallpapers
[07:18] <thoreauputic> !fishing
[07:18] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:18] <Lynoure> kleedrac: It's not a search engine :)
[07:18] <kleedrac> Heh ... but Google failed me on this one :)
[07:18] <timboteam> Czer323: I really can't figure out my network and I really really want to!
[07:18] <Lynoure> kleedrac: http://www.google.fi/search?q=rotate+wallpapers+gnome&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[07:19] <thoreauputic> !info devilspie
[07:19] <ubotu> devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 124 kB
[07:19] <garryF> I got the same error 17 from grub when it pegged the wrong drives for the boot of my oses. Some find it says too boot at /dev/hda,1 when it should be /dev/hda,0.
[07:19] <Lynoure> kleedrac: some of those should prolly have the solution, even the first one looked promising
[07:19] <Madpilot> kleedrac, check the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community, there's a rotating wallpaper thing there somewhere, I think - can't remember the page
[07:19] <czer323> timboteam> understandable.  Well, let's have a look at your key.  can you tell if it's 10 or 26 characters long?
[07:20] <timboteam> It is 10
[07:20] <tdionne> hello, is this the right place to seek help with an ubuntu desktop installation?
[07:20] <timboteam> And my router settings says its a 64 bit 10 hex digits
[07:20] <timboteam> But there isnt an option for that on the network manager
[07:20] <thoreauputic> tdionne: yep
[07:20] <eFoX> what does "ROOT has been mounted 20 times without being checked, check forced" mean ?
[07:20] <czer323> temobteam> what options is it giving you?
[07:20] <tdionne> thoreauputic: thanks :
[07:20] <DShepherd> AltGr <-- which key is that?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> eFoX: it means the system is checking your filesystem
[07:21] <q_a_z_steve> Every time I run the install no matter how I part out my 120GB drive, it says it needs 400MB for the CD files. I checked the file integrity last night and everything is fine!
[07:21] <P0ldy> eFoX, it means that the filesystem is being checked for errors (ext3 for example usually does checks every 30 mounts)
[07:21] <timboteam> Its giving me WEP 64/128 bit hex, WEP 128-bit passphrase, and wep 64/128-bit ASCII
[07:21] <q_a_z_steve> Why does my install fail?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> eFoX: every so many boots it does a check
[07:21] <tdionne> i'm installing on a thinkpad T42
[07:21] <timboteam> Then I type the key and i have to select open system or Shared key
[07:21] <czer323> efox> it's just a safety check.
[07:21] <eFoX> oic, thanks
[07:21] <kleedrac> Madpilot/Lynoure: They both seem to be scripts (or on the wiki a c app to be compiled) which you run and they sleep x seconds then switch wallpapers ... I'm kinda hoping for a preference replacement for gnome itself or do you guys think I'm asking too much :)
[07:21] <czer323> timboteam> open will probalby work.
[07:22] <thoreauputic> !msg
[07:22] <ubotu> Please ask your messages in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[07:22] <Madpilot> kleedrac, Gnome itself doesn't have such a thing, afaik. You could file a wishlist bug w/ the Ubuntu bugtracker, if you want
[07:22] <q_a_z_steve> I'm installing on a Gateway Direct P3 with 384 RAM and 120GB HDD.
[07:22] <czer323> eFox> btw, did you try to boot to windows and see if the card worked there?
[07:23] <kazil> ok. it says i need gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 on ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger. where`s that? i can`t locate it.
[07:23] <eFoX> GOT IT !!!
[07:23] <eps> kleedrac, one does exist for gnome, I found it via google the other day, don't remember my string sorry
[07:23] <tdionne> i choose to auto partition my hard drive, and all looks good
[07:23] <czer323> efox> super sweet, what changed?
[07:23] <q_a_z_steve> thoreauputic: anything?
[07:23] <tdionne> but then it fails creating the root filessystem
[07:23] <kleedrac> eps: So you're actual "Desktop Wallpaper" preference pane had that option now?
[07:23] <timboteam> AAAA CZER I GOT IT
[07:23] <timboteam> IM ON THE INTERNET
[07:24] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: u think you need a more specifi question with information about how it fails
[07:24] <dsas> kazil: Do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[07:24] <Madpilot> kazil, that's in Universe
[07:24] <q_a_z_steve> Why does it ask for 400 more MB and fail when the CD is fine and my parts are all over 2GB?
[07:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kazil about repos
[07:24] <eFoX> czer323: it was really gay..but..i have a wifi on/off button but its like a digital switch or something. In windows to concern battery i turned it off while i was doing something, but never turned it back on. I ASSUMED that it was only for XP, but it seems to be tied into the bios or something
[07:24] <tdionne> when the partitioner runs again it shows a warning sign and asks if I've installed the right plugins for the filesystem
[07:24] <eps> kleedrac, no, just does it
[07:25] <DShepherd> AltGr <-- which key is that?
[07:25] <czer323> timboteam> super sweet!  cool.  just took a little know how.
[07:25] <eps> kleedrac, file a feature request for it in gnome 2.15
[07:25] <eFoX> czer323: so when you said if i have another OS, i rememberd turning that off, and i went and turned it back on and its good now
[07:25] <garryF> timboteam You are not on the internet, you are dreaming that your problem is fixed and will wake up to find you have pullled half your hair out. j/k. Seriously, Congrats!
[07:25] <kazil> i`ve got no internet connection with ubuntu so i need to dl it from xp then to copy it to mem stick then to ubuntu
[07:25] <czer323> eFox> awesome.  I woudl have never guessed that though.  SO, i'm glad you figured it out.
[07:25] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: perhaps you defined your / partition incorrectly ?
[07:26] <eFoX> czer323: ya honestly. I prob wouldnt even have thought bout it. thanks for throwing out " do you have another OS" out there !
[07:26] <Cntryboy> Hey ya'll I just installed wine, now how exactly do I get it up and running? I want to install pokerstars poker program for windows
[07:26] <garryF> I have noticed that every time I slam my fist down on the keyboard, the keys I need the most are the ones that fly off and land in god forsaken places in the living room where I will never find them.
[07:26] <timboteam> Hahaha thankyou garryf
[07:27] <Hoxzer_> Cntryboy: try winecfg
[07:27] <czer323> Alright, my time to ask questions. lol
[07:27] <garryF> I do find them by loosing my hampster for the evening and checking its stash.
[07:28] <q_a_z_steve> first is /boot 5GB, then / 25G , /home 35G, swap 2G , /windows (Fat32 if this is my problem I'm going to kill myself) 53G =120. I've also tried EXT3 / as 80 GB and the rest /windows
[07:28] <tdionne> does anyone know what I could do get the installation working?
[07:28] <Yonda> dooglus, I have installed x11vnc. With some online documentation I was reading, it says to add some options to '~/.x11vncrc', but im not sure where thats located...
[07:28] <czer323> I need to install something on an old Pentium 133, 16Mb ram, 10gb hd.  I can't get ubuntu on it for the life of me.  It bombshells while even starting from cd with a huge kernel panic and long dump.  Knoppix can startup, but it complains about not enough ram for running X11.  Any other suggestions for a GUI os, without resorting to Win95?
[07:28] <robert_> where does ubuntu stick courier-imap's configuration files?
[07:28] <lightstar> Yonda, its in your home folder
[07:29] <thoreauputic> czer323: Damn Small Linux
[07:29] <ximian> czer323 dsl
[07:29] <kinnetica> hi, i installed ubuntu for the first time today, and for some reason my touchpad is really sensitive.  Is there any way to change this option?
[07:29] <philipacamaniac> anyone using Gnome CVS?
[07:29] <HedgeMage> czer323: the only gui I've run with so little ram is FVWM on gentoo or DSL
[07:29] <ddrj> when they say (hd0,2), that means that it's Hardrive 0, partition 2 right?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> ddrj: first hd, third part
[07:29] <thoreauputic> ddrj: grub starts at zero
[07:30] <garryF> Its actually zero based ddrj
[07:30] <ddrj> ohhh ok thanks thoreauputic :)
[07:30] <czer323> thanks guys, I'll start looking into that.
[07:30] <ddrj> and garryF, haha i think i understand where i went wrong
[07:30] <Cntryboy> hoxzer thanks it brought it up
[07:30] <Cntryboy> let me download a newer pokerstars so I dont have to update brb
[07:30] <robert_> bah
[07:30] <kaizoku> The install CD keeps hanging up while it's trying to Mount the root file system
[07:30] <czer323> Also, here's another quirk. Whenever I press shift and backspace at the same time, my x11 sessions resets just like if I pressed alt-ctrl-backspace/delete
[07:30] <garryF> ddrj Good luck with that.
[07:31] <robert_> where the eff does Ubuntu stick courier-imap's configuration files?
[07:31] <philipacamaniac> if I want to apply a patch to gnome-screensaver, what else do I have to recompile?
[07:31] <Cntryboy> should I use the link to download for IE or netscape.. all I have is firefox
[07:31] <burntsigil> Anyone here use k9copy to burn DVDs?
[07:32] <ubuntu> what is this place
[07:32] <Lynoure> Cntryboy: No IE for ubuntu, and FF is not half bad
[07:32] <robert_> nobody knows/
[07:32] <bimberi_> ubuntu: this is Ubuntu's IRC (Internet Relay Chat) support channel
[07:32] <Cntryboy> well I clicked on the IE download link
[07:32] <Cntryboy> its downloading to desktop so I guess it doesn't matter
[07:32] <eFoX> i just learned something new...IF YOU COMMENT EVERYTHING IN YOUR /ETC/NETWORK/INTERFACE file, your load up takes FOREVER and even appears to "freeze"
[07:33] <robert_> heh
[07:33] <q_a_z_steve> thoreauputic: anything?
[07:33] <kaizoku> The install CD keeps hanging up while it's trying to Mount the root file system
[07:33] <robert_> kaizoku: check your ram
[07:33] <czer323> Here's another quirk. Whenever I press shift and backspace at the same time, my x11 sessions resets just like if I pressed alt-ctrl-backspace/delete
[07:34] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: 1) why do you think I have an answer? 2) I suggested you might check to see if you defined your / partition right in the installer
[07:34] <kaizoku> robert_:what about it?
[07:34] <Bot_Builder> A friend of mine is going to install windows vista beta pretty soon, and I want to get him to try out ubuntu - he should install ubuntu first right?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> I tried to boot my Kubuntu drive from another machine and couldn't mount the root file system
[07:34] <ddrj> so if my partition manager says Partition 1, hard disk 0, in GRUB it will be : (hd0,1) or (hd0,0)
[07:34] <kaizoku> robert_: it
[07:34] <DaSkreech> How come ?
[07:34] <Lynoure> czer323: report as a bug?
[07:34] <Bot_Builder> (dual boot ubuntu and vista)
[07:34] <kaizoku> robert_: it's been memtested, and it
[07:34] <kaizoku> 's fine
[07:34] <philipacamaniac> czer323: are you using Xgl/compiz? That happens if you are, and you don't change a certain setting.
[07:34] <robert_> hm
[07:34] <Cntryboy> I just got the pokerstars I already had, now how do I use wine to install this?
[07:34] <KenSentMe> Bot_Builder: better install vista first and then ubuntu of you want dual boot
[07:34] <steev-dell> sigh
[07:34] <bimberi> Bot_Builder: install windows first usually
[07:35] <q_a_z_steve> thoreauputic: it's EXT3 always, boot flag=yes, what else is there? 25 GB...
[07:35] <czer323> philipacmaniac> You're seroius?  shift and backspace restarts it?
[07:35] <Cntryboy> add application?
[07:35] <Bot_Builder> oh, ok then
[07:35] <Bot_Builder> good thing i asked :)
[07:35] <philipacamaniac> czer323: yeah, hang a sec. I remember a forum thread that mentioned it.
[07:35] <q_a_z_steve> I'm not able to look at it at the moment...
[07:35] <mog> hello
[07:35] <kazil> argh...
[07:36] <mog> I'm having some trouble installing ubuntu
[07:36] <Cntryboy> does anyone know how to install this pokerstars with wine?
[07:36] <Cntryboy> ive never used wine b4
[07:36] <mog> i'm trying to do a clean install, and I let ubuntu pick the partition settings itself. It stops at 15% and says cannot create file system though.
[07:37] <kaizoku> mog, where do you live?
[07:37] <mog> US
[07:37] <kaizoku> sorry, but there's someone I know named mog, and it just seems like an odd name
[07:37] <mog> heh
[07:37] <philipacamaniac> czer323: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[07:37] <philipacamaniac> doh!
[07:37] <kaizoku> is mog your initials?
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Can I get Linux to boot from my hard  drive on another computer?
[07:37] <mog> nope
[07:37] <kaizoku> ok, nvm
[07:37] <Cntryboy> no one knows?
[07:37] <garryF> Hmmm, might use something to mke sure that hard drive isn't dying Mog.
[07:38] <philipacamaniac> czer323: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[07:38] <kaizoku> The install CD keeps hanging up while it's trying to Mount the root file system, and I don't know what to do....
[07:38] <Bot_Builder> hmm, I'm curious about vista as well (blasphemy, I know), but i'd really rather not screw up my ubuntu install...
[07:38] <Cntryboy> I'm awefully tired :(
[07:38] <philipacamaniac> czer323: number 8
[07:38] <eps> Cntryboy, install wine, double click the exe
[07:38] <czer323> philipiamaniac> i just did it two times whiel trying to type a message to you.  they can't keep this.
[07:38] <Cntryboy> does anyone know how to use wine to install window apps?
[07:38] <mog> i can try it on a different computer tomorrow to check if its localized to this comp
[07:38] <kaizoku> The install CD keeps hanging up while it's trying to Mount the root file system on the 64 bit install CD, and I don't know what to do....
[07:38] <q_a_z_steve> !networkinstall > DaSkreech
[07:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about networkinstall
[07:38] <Cntryboy> I did install wine
[07:38] <philipacamaniac> OMGWTFBBW HAHAHA
[07:38] <philipacamaniac> j/k
[07:38] <Cntryboy> and tried to double click the .exe
[07:38] <Cntryboy> didn't work
[07:38] <philipacamaniac> see the forum post
[07:38] <Yonda> lightstar, It's not in my home folder. I've enabled show hidden files, but its still not there..i've run a search, but i cant find it...but apt-get confirms its installed
[07:38] <czer323> philipacamaniac> if i can't make this go away, i'm going to fucking kill myself.  dont' they understand!
[07:38] <eps> Cntryboy, then run the exe from a terminal and find out why it is crashing
[07:39] <philipacamaniac> add this to your session: xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us
[07:39] <Cntryboy> im going to try wine pokerstarsinstall.exe in terminal see if that works
[07:39] <Cntryboy> brb
[07:39] <philipacamaniac> czer323: assuming your in US
[07:39] <garryF> Wine onlyd did one thing for me, It gave me lots of practice in whining and moaning.
[07:39] <swim> is there something wrong with xmms-xmmplayer? it doesnt seem to be working at all
[07:40] <DaSkreech> q_a_z_steve: I don't need a network install I just want to boot up the computer
[07:40] <eps> garryF, really? it gave me lots of practic stumbling
[07:40] <garryF> eps hehe
[07:40] <robert_> hm, anyone here ever used courier-imap? (dapper)
[07:40] <philipacamaniac> I need help applying a patch from gnome bugzilla into gnome-screensaver. Anyone ever recompiled gnome-screensaver?
[07:41] <lightstar> Yonda, you need to create the file .x11vncrc
[07:41] <Cntryboy> okay that command works
[07:41] <q_a_z_steve> DaSkreech: do what I did, make the drive your master and then bootpart.
[07:41] <Cntryboy> eps should I install it c:\Program Files\PokerStars
[07:41] <eps> philipacamaniac, follow the gnome manual
[07:41] <eps> RTFM
[07:41] <Cntryboy> or choose some where else since linux dont have that dir
[07:41] <eps> Cntryboy, nfi, do what you wantr
[07:41] <Diem> So anyone have any idea's why my internet might be going so slow with ubuntu?
[07:41] <Yonda> lightstar, and then put it in the home folder?
[07:41] <alth> Hey guys. Trying to get Quake2 to run, keeps giving me errors...
[07:41] <garryF> Wine does emulate one aspect of windows pretty well. The confusing error messages and bugs.
[07:42] <alth> No joysticks found - recursive shutdown -Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[07:42] <robert_> heh
[07:42] <eps> Cntryboy, wine builds an evironment similar to windows...that c:\program files\bleh does exist
[07:42] <philipacamaniac> eps: hmm, I asked the gnome guys and they said "oh you should talk to the Ubuntu guys for their specific architecture, etc."
[07:42] <Cntryboy> so should I install it c:\Program Files\PokerStars ?
[07:42] <lightstar> lightstar, yeap.. touch ~/.x11vncrc
[07:42] <Cntryboy> or pick like home dir pokerstars
[07:42] <eps> philipacamaniac, you really need to ask on the ubuntu mailing list/gnome ubuntu mailing list as they will be able to tell you with a lot more detail (this is user suipport, not dev support mostly)
[07:42] <eps> Cntryboy, YES
[07:42] <philipacamaniac> eps: good point
[07:43] <YoussefAssad> morning folks
[07:43] <czer323> philipacamaniac> Alright, let's try it.....
[07:43] <mog> any other helps with the unable to install?
[07:43] <czer323> sadlfkjasdfdsfljksadflsad  Woo hoo!
[07:43] <czer323> no death.
[07:43] <mog> "cannot create file system"
[07:43] <eps> Cntryboy, don't be a god damn windows user...I'm not going to baby you through every step...show some sense
[07:43] <philipacamaniac> czer323: did you put it in your session, or just enter it on the terminal?
[07:43] <Diem> Does anyone have any idea on why the net runs so slow on Ubuntu? It works just perfect on windows
[07:44] <eps> Diem, define 'net' 'slow' and give an example
[07:44] <Diem> Ok
[07:44] <czer323> philipacamaniac> i've got a session setup to load a custom keymap at startup, so i saved it to that location and swapped ctrl and alt.  I prefer the mac layout.
[07:44] <thechris> anyone know how to allow users to start a second X11 session.  the command `startx -- :1 ` says users can't start X11 sessions
[07:44] <robert_> nobody's used courier-imap on dapper?
[07:44] <Cntryboy> eps, wtf is your deal, i'm trying to figure out where I should install this.. I've never used wine before. Cut me some slack
[07:44] <Diem> For example, I open firefox and type in google.com, it searches for the site for a minute or so and then it finally loads up
[07:44] <philipacamaniac> czer323: perfect!
[07:44] <Cntryboy> if you don't wanna help keep quiet
[07:44] <q_a_z_steve> thoreauputic: sorry to single you out but what else should I do with my / ? Do I want to set up more or less log. part's to get this working?
[07:44] <YoussefAssad> my system isn't starting crond on bootup; there's no entry for it in rcconf. Does anyone know of a decent services configuration tool?
[07:45] <philipacamaniac> czer323: I don't regularly run Xgl just cuz it has too many quirks
[07:45] <eps> Cntryboy, RTFM and take some risks, it will either break or it will work - if it breaks then ask for help, if it doesn't you haven't wasted any ones time
[07:45] <eps> Diem, does it only effect web browsing? like are your normal file downloads and IRC normal speed?
[07:45] <Cntryboy> eps leave me alone please
[07:45] <czer323> philipacamaniac> So far, I really love it.  I've only used it a few days, but right off the bat, I disabled that Wobbyly crap.  LOL, like i want my windows to wobble all the time.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: my extra-sensory perception isn't working today ;) What I was suggesting was that if you defined the partition incorrectly the installer might not find it
[07:45] <garryF> thechris: See the four boxes in the lower right hand corner. the empty boxes are your other virtual X terminals that you can switch to and from
[07:45] <Cntryboy> your help is not valid to me
[07:46] <eps> Cntryboy, you asked for help, I will only keep answering you if you ask questions
[07:46] <Ackeubu_> Hey I create documents in ooffice. and save them in .doc format. when i email them to my teacher he says he cant open them. Is there a solution that allows me to use ubuntu when editing files and using them on a windows or mac machine after?
[07:46] <Diem> eps, It effects me connecting to any type of internet service, such as irc and gaim etc, but once it actually connects to the server it runs fine
[07:46] <philipacamaniac> czer323: you'll be disappointed I'm sure to find out it breaks DOSBox, some other SDL games, and tsclient
[07:46] <q_a_z_steve> thoreauputic: What should my set up look like?
[07:46] <YoussefAssad> Ackeubu_: ask your teacher what the problem was, find out what version of office, track the issue down. I've used oowriter for years, no major problems like that
[07:47] <thechris> garryF: i'm looking for something else.  i need a custom configuration for setting up an efficient development environment.  these settings are not the same as the settings used for other tings
[07:47] <robert_> blah, wth
[07:47] <q_a_z_steve> EXT3, mount point, label, size all the suggested defaults would be helpful.
[07:47] <Cntryboy> I don't want you to answer if you are being rude.
[07:47] <philipacamaniac> Ackeubu_: if you are indeed saving them in the Microsoft Word 2000/XP format, they should work perfect on other Microsoft Office softwares
[07:47] <garryF> thechris:  Oops, I noticed you said other users. Might check their user properties under priveleges and make sure they are authorized to use X
[07:47] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: I have no idea - you've told us nothing useful about how your partitions are set as far as I can recall
[07:47] <Cntryboy> your
[07:47] <eps> Diem, righto, first off the way linux deals with web browsing will always mean it is that fraction of a second slowly...though that shouldn't really be noticable.  in the case of IRC if it takes say 40 seconds to get onto a server it is probably your ident not working correctly
[07:47] <Cntryboy> blah im tired
[07:47] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: meh just leave it be
[07:47] <Cntryboy> -your that was meant for someone else
[07:47] <robert_> eps: you ever used courier-imap with dapper/
[07:47] <q_a_z_steve> first is /boot 5GB, then / 25G , /home 35G, swap 2G , /windows (Fat32 if this is my problem I'm going to kill myself) 53G =120. I've also tried EXT3 / as 80 GB and the rest /windows
[07:47] <YoussefAssad> any recommendations for a good rc configuration edotir? Not rcconf
[07:47] <czer323> philipacamaniac> not so much.  I haven't progress that far in my LInux levels.  I'd still rank  myself a newb.  A newb with a better learning curve than others, but that's jsut experience with computers.
[07:47] <eps> robert_, no sorry, only debian sid
[07:47] <thechris> garryF: hmm. i'm in kubuntu, not sure where i'd find that
[07:48] <robert_> ah
[07:48] <robert_> argh
[07:48] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: please stop singling me out - I'm doing stuff in other channels and places, and it's really annoying
[07:48] <YoussefAssad> not ksysv either, sucky interface
[07:48] <robert_> eps: I can't find my courier-imap configuration files
[07:48] <Diem> eps, well a fraction of a second slower i can understand, however like i said it takes a minute or so to connect to a very basic page such as google.
[07:48] <eps> czer323, if you are using a terminal you are ahead of many newbs :P
[07:48] <kazil> gstreamer0.8-mad (0.8.11-0ubuntu5) [universe]  <<is this waht i need for mp3?
[07:48] <philipacamaniac> czer323: okay, but when you discover DOSBox and other SDL games, I'm almost certain you will be disappointed that you can't use them together with Xgl
[07:48] <q_a_z_steve> thoreauputic did you see my part list?
[07:48] <garryF> thechris Somewhere under system tools, should be a user/group manager might find help there.
[07:48] <eps> Diem, owch, give me a moment to think of what that might be and check out a forum or two, I assume you are on 6.06?
[07:48] <Cntryboy> esp you wanna help well I installed it where default was just like windows.. I got this
[07:48] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$ wine PokerStarsInstall.exe
[07:48] <Cntryboy> err:menubuilder:extract_icon32 LoadLibraryExW (L"c:\\Program Files\\PokerStars\\Uninstall.EXE") failed, error 126
[07:48] <Cntryboy> err:menubuilder:InvokeShellLinker failed to fork and exec wineshelllink
[07:49] <Diem> eps, Correct, i have not had this trouble with suse or knoppix in the past and i am fairly new at ubuntu,thanks a great much
[07:49] <thoreauputic> q_a_z_steve: you are now on /ignore, sorry ( you were told several times)
[07:49] <Cntryboy> diem are you on dialup?
[07:49] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: sorry to come in on the tail of the conversation, but did you check the WineHQ AppDB for compatibility?
[07:49] <czer323> eps> I'm at home with a terminal though.  I was raised on DOS 2.6. lol.
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> wait, I tried not to have that tag you. anyway, did you see my list?
[07:49] <YoussefAssad> PokerStars.exe? Why don't you just cut to the chase and try to run BonziBuddy.exe?
[07:49] <Cntryboy> yes it said it works philipacamaniac
[07:49] <philipacamaniac> czer323: Then you will love DOSBox! (I sound like an infomercial)
[07:50] <robert_> YoussefAssad: haha
[07:50] <SpeedyIndy> i can not download the samba package file from the default server.  what can i do to resolve this problem?
[07:50] <YoussefAssad> BonziBuddy + ubuntu == linux finally ready for the desktop
[07:50] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: which wine version do you have, the ubuntu default or another?
[07:50] <kazil> gstreamer0.8-mad (0.8.11-0ubuntu5) [universe]  << is this what i need for mp3?
[07:50] <zcat[1] > does bonzibuddy run under wine?
[07:50] <eps> Cntryboy, righto, try running how ever much of the game was installed so eg cd cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Poker Whatever/pokers.exe  and see if it works (note it is case sensative)
[07:50] <robert_> has anyone here ever used courier-imap? (dapper)
[07:50] <eps> zcat[1] , I think so...why would you want to use it
[07:50] <thechris> zcat[1] : no.  no linux user would install it.
[07:50] <Cntryboy> i added repos and did apt-get install wine
[07:50] <YoussefAssad> zcat[1] : if Lookout and Exploder work, then I can imagine it might
[07:51] <eps> czer323, terminals rock :)
[07:51] <zcat[1] > I can't get MSIE to work :(
[07:51] <zcat[1] > tried and tried..
[07:51] <eps> zcat[1] , what are you using to install it?
[07:52] <zcat[1] > The full installer Igot off a CD, one I downloaded, and the stub installer winetools uses.. nothing works.
[07:52] <eps> if you are using wine tools kill it, kill wine... and start fresh with either sidenet or wine doors (google either) ...but wine tools breaks the default wine so you have to kill it all inc wine configs
[07:52] <q_a_z_steve> eps: what can I tell you that will help me get my install complete? I'm trying to install Breezy.
[07:52] <Lynoure> Cntryboy: but, if you already own a windows lisence and want to have it easy, you could run windows under wmware. Especially worth it if you plan to use it a lot/with lots of programs. (Yep, I know, a bit heretic of me)
[07:52] <czer323> eps> agreed.  i was looking for a quake like terminal.  Press a button and a console comes down.  I found one, but i haven't spent enough time setting it up.   lol, that's going to be awesome.
[07:52] <eps> q_a_z_steve, why did another user put you on ignore?
[07:53] <SpeedyIndy> how do i change the settings from the us.archive server to the one recommended on the motd?
[07:53] <eps> lol
[07:53] <YoussefAssad> I don't think I've ever seen an app half as buggy as ksysv
[07:53] <Cntryboy> eps I'm in that directory to start it do I type ./pokerstars.exe
[07:53] <ashzilla> !restrictedformats
[07:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:53] <q_a_z_steve> look, no one answered anything about this until I tabbed you two.
[07:53] <Cntryboy> lynoure is wmware better than wine?
[07:53] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: no type wine pokerstars.exe
[07:53] <eps> Cntryboy, try, or wine pokerstars.exe
[07:53] <thoreauputic> SpeedyIndy: replace us. with se. in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <eps> Diem, mmm haven't come up with anything sorry...though it shouldn't be happening so it might be a bug with your install? also are you upto date with your ubuntu updates?
[07:54] <Cntryboy> okay thx brb
[07:54] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$ wine pokerstars.exe
[07:54] <Cntryboy> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pokerstars.exe": Module not found
[07:54] <Cntryboy> but the directory is there along with pokerstars.exe
[07:54] <eps> philipacamaniac, wine can see and run exe's these days, shocked me when I went eve.exe one day and forgot cedega infront and it worked anyway :P
[07:55] <eps> Cntryboy, you will have to go to #winehq for that one
[07:55] <SpeedyIndy> thoreauputic: ty
[07:55] <eps> wtf...
[07:55] <eps> pokerstars installs an exe in system32?
[07:55] <Lynoure> Cntryboy: I cannot say which is better. It depends on what you want.
[07:55] <eps> erm, you probably shouldn't be running some thing like that
[07:55] <Cntryboy> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2899
[07:55] <Cntryboy> thats where im at now
[07:55] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: you need to "cd .wine/drive_c/Programme/PokerStars"
[07:56] <Diem> eps, no i am not, i havnt taken the chance to try and update it yet since i have just reinstalled 6.06, ill try that though, hopefully either the reinstallation or the updates will fix it,if i still have troubles ill be back, thanks mate.
[07:56] <eps> oh that's the problem, philipacamaniac haha told him to do that ages ago :|
[07:56] <philipacamaniac> eps, no he wasn't in the correct directory, and so wine automatically assumes system32
[07:56] <Cntryboy> okay so I have to be in that dir then ok let me try brb
[07:56] <philipacamaniac> lol
[07:56] <eps> Diem, sorry I couldn't help you more
[07:56] <eps> yes Cntryboy
[07:56] <eps> newb
[07:56] <q_a_z_steve> eps Does putting your name in the front of THIS message single you out and message your server page?
[07:56] <philipacamaniac> play nicely, no
[07:56] <philipacamaniac> now
[07:57] <eps> this is why linux shouldn't be overly user friendly...you get those windows users that just _shouldn't_ be using linux
[07:57] <eps> q_a_z_steve, no, but it highlights it so I can see it
[07:57] <Cntryboy> eps you gotta start some where
[07:57] <Cntryboy> now for another newb question how can I tell terminal to list hidden files?
[07:57] <q_a_z_steve> so then what's the problem, why is no one answering me?
[07:57] <philipacamaniac> the real problem is lack of binary compatibility with windows apps
[07:58] <Cntryboy> so I can pick .wine
[07:58] <eps> Cntryboy, true, just ignore me ... I have to work with idiots all day long and it is some times hard to work out who is just an idiot and who's a newb who just needs help :P
[07:58] <eps> ls -la  Cntryboy
[07:58] <Yonda> lightstar, I created those files and it now works locally...well at least there arent any errors in terminal, but when i try and log in via SSH I receive the error "22/06/2006 15:48:50 *** XOpenDisplay failed. No -display or DISPLAY.
[07:58] <Yonda> "
[07:58] <eps> that will list 'hidden' or all files and folders
[07:58] <Cntryboy> I know I can cd .wine
[07:58] <q_a_z_steve> eps: I don't mind that, if ppl do it to me I don't /ignore.
[07:58] <eps> indeed
[07:58] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: just type everything in the quotes: "cd .wine/drive_c/Programme/PokerStars"
[07:58] <Cntryboy> but I wanna know the command to list hidden files as well with in terminal
[07:59] <eps> ls -la Cntryboy
[07:59] <thechris> Cntryboy: ls -a
[07:59] <eps> that will list 'hidden' or all files and folders
[07:59] <Cntryboy> okay thx eps
[07:59] <eps> mmm, whats the l do again, I've been using it so long I don't remember
[07:59] <q_a_z_steve> eps> first is /boot 5GB, then / 25G , /home 35G, swap 2G , /windows (Fat32 if this is my problem I'm going to kill myself) 53G =120. I've also tried EXT3 / as 80 GB and the rest /windows
[07:59] <eps> long listing format, cool
[07:59] <lightstar> Yonda, did you do the tunnelling correctly? how are you trying to connect from remote?
[07:59] <Cntryboy> thx
[08:00] <eps> q_a_z_steve, why the hell do you have a 5gig boot partition? that itself will break things iirc
[08:00] <philipacamaniac> hmm, I've decided I'm too tired to recompile gnome-screensaver tonight
[08:00] <philipacamaniac> stupid bugs
[08:00] <eps> q_a_z_steve, so what is the problem?
[08:00] <bsamson> hey i changed my resolution and now the clock on the gnome bar at the top is in the middle instead of on the right side.  pretty insignificant problem but I cant figure out how to move items on that thing.  anybody know?
[08:00] <Cntryboy> a;lsdkjf same error
[08:00] <q_a_z_steve> 400MB needed for the CD files to install...
[08:00] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files$ wine pokerstars
[08:00] <Cntryboy> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pokerstars.exe": Module not found
[08:00] <q_a_z_steve> how big should it be?
[08:01] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: one more directory down
[08:01] <Yonda> ssh YOURID@SERVER.NAME -L5900:localhost:5900 x11vnc -auth `cat ~/.Xauth`
[08:01] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: you forgot to "cd PokerStars" or whatever the directory is
[08:01] <lightstar> Yonda,  ssh YOURID@SERVER.NAME -L5900:localhost:5900 is correct
[08:02] <lightstar> Yonda, them your remote machine needs its own vnc client to connect..in tat remote machine, in server enter localhost
[08:02] <Cntryboy> got it
[08:02] <Cntryboy> thanks gang
[08:02] <Cntryboy> :)
[08:02] <q_a_z_steve> eps I don't have the exact error, but it says it needs 400 more to complete the CD files install.
[08:02] <philipacamaniac> so it works?
[08:02] <eps> q_a_z_steve, also... you want your boot to be about say 25-30 meg max, your swap to be around double your ram so 512 would be 1024 though don't go over a gig for your swap, keep your root between 5 and say 15 gig and put the rest into your home dir
[08:03] <q_a_z_steve> eps: I checked the cd integ last night and everything's fine.
[08:03] <Cntryboy> odd though within wine.cfg I let it auto find oss midi drivers and hit apply but within terminal it still says fixme:midi:OSS_MidiInit Synthesizer support MIDI in. Not supported yet (please report)
[08:03] <q_a_z_steve> wait, boot only 30MB?
[08:04] <eps> q_a_z_steve, I'm thinking for a start get rid of your /boot partition and just let / handel it...so say ahve a 10 gig / and the rest to /home
[08:04] <eps> q_a_z_steve, yeah man
[08:04] <SpeedyIndy> how can i change the samba settings after the initial set up is configured?
[08:04] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: I get that every time, OSS midi isn't fully implemented yet
[08:04] <eps> the /boot dir normally has around 7 to 20 meg tops in it
[08:04] <q_a_z_steve> so all in all / , /home and maybe 35G /windows?
[08:04] <pc22> anyone pls advise good ftp server
[08:04] <eps> SpeedyIndy, either via the gui in gnome or in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:04] <Cntryboy> so does that mean I won't have sound?
[08:04] <eps> q_a_z_steve, yeah
[08:05] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: does Cntryboy use midi?
[08:05] <Yonda> lightstar, Ah! So I need a vnc client for the remote machine, like tightVNC or some such?
[08:05] <philipacamaniac> emmmmmm
[08:05] <Cntryboy> lol
[08:05] <Cntryboy> it has sound
[08:05] <lightstar> Yonda, yeap..correct
[08:05] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: does PokerStar use midi?
[08:05] <Cntryboy> guess not
[08:05] <lightstar> Yonda, tightvnc works just fine:)
[08:05] <Pillzy> Does the Disk util under administration work in 6.06
[08:05] <philipacamaniac> cool
[08:05] <Cntryboy> its working though :D
[08:06] <Cntryboy> gotta have my poker
[08:06] <eps> Cntryboy, yay :)
[08:06] <eFoX> anyone in here use SPICE ?
[08:06] <Cntryboy> :D
[08:06] <Cntryboy> thx again
[08:06] <q_a_z_steve> '/boot 30MB , swap 768MB , /windows 35G, / 15G , /home max?
[08:06] <Pillzy> I need to partition and Format a USB HD
[08:06] <Pillzy> any tips
[08:06] <lightstar> pc22, try sftp...secure verion of ftp, comes with openssh-server
[08:06] <q_a_z_steve> did I miss anything?
[08:06] <eps> q_a_z_steve, why are you having a boot partition at all?
[08:07] <eps> q_a_z_steve, if you were stuffing around with stuff it mgiht be handy but end users don't really need it
[08:07] <q_a_z_steve> eh, my bro says I should, he's been doing this 2 years longer than I.
[08:07] <harry_> does ubuntu support ascii characters???
[08:07] <eps> Pillzy, google for a guide or use the gui disk manager
[08:07] <eps> harry_, yes
[08:07] <pc22> what abt pure-ftpd
[08:07] <eps> q_a_z_steve, thats cool then...it is handy if things go pear shaped with the kernel
[08:08] <Pillzy> ok, I am just using Fdisk now
[08:08] <krazykit> Pillzy: gparted works well
[08:08] <Pillzy> The Disk app loads but I can change any options
[08:08] <eps> q_a_z_steve, well try and anyway
[08:08] <lightstar> pc22, i dun use normal ftp so i'm not too sure. are you trying to create an anonymous ftp for other ppl?
[08:08] <harry_> eps: do you know the other N style. for example to spell out Nina ( Ninya )??? n-nye??
[08:08] <q_a_z_steve> eps, I'm not up on iirc, =what?
[08:08] <harry_> eps: the with ~ on the top of N or n?
[08:08] <philipacamaniac> Cntryboy: you can create a menu entry to launch it with this command: "wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Programme/PokerStasr/pokerstars.exe"
[08:09] <Yonda> lightstar, it works! thanks for the help
[08:09] <lightstar> Yonda, np
[08:09] <eps> harry_, use the charater map included with ubuntu... applications -> accessories -> character map
[08:09] <s0nix> hi
[08:09] <eps> hey s0nix
[08:09] <harry_> eps: how wud you use it on open office.word processor
[08:10] <q_a_z_steve> eps: us there anything I want in any particular order?
[08:10] <kazil> [dsc]  [gst-plugins0.8_0.8.11.orig.tar.gz]  [gst-plugins0.8_0.8.11-0ubuntu5.diff.gz] 
[08:10] <kazil> View the Debian changelog
[08:10] <kazil> which one of these 3 to dl? for mp3 codecs ubuntu 5.1
[08:10] <Cntryboy> blah just lost 50K on 3 of a kind who would know he had full house
[08:10] <s0nix> I have installed gparted. and trying to resize my sda1 partition (mounted on /) with the unallocated space. but gparted still have the resize menu disabled, any idea?
[08:10] <eps> harry_, down in the bottom left hand corner of char map application it gives you the keycode to do it yourself or you can copy the char using the copy button in the app and then just paste it into open office
[08:10] <Cntryboy> oh well
[08:11] <Cntryboy> later all im going to sleep
[08:11] <q_a_z_steve> eps: *is
[08:11] <kazil> [dsc]  [gst-plugins0.8_0.8.11.orig.tar.gz]  [gst-plugins0.8_0.8.11-0ubuntu5.diff.gz]  <<which to dl?
[08:11] <eps> s0nix, do you have write access to the device?
[08:11] <adj> i need help with ruby. will someone explain why breezy shows 1.8.2 as being installed with dpkg, but ruby -v returns 1.8.3
[08:11] <eps> kazil, the tar.gz
[08:11] <s0nix> sure gparted is running under root
[08:11] <Hoxzer_> Gparted is gd
[08:11] <kazil> eps thx
[08:11] <eps> kazil, though you should be using the ubuntu package instead of compiling your own...it's easier
[08:12] <adj> 1.8.3 is not useful with lighttp and id rather not reinstall all ruby binaries from source
[08:12] <kazil> i`ve got no internet connection with ubuntu
[08:12] <eps> q_a_z_steve, what are you trying to install with? the ubuntu installer on the live cd or the -alternative cd?
[08:12] <q_a_z_steve> Breezy install CD.
[08:12] <eps> kazil, righto ... you know you can download the .deb file and the dependancies on another computer and install them locally on the ubuntu box
[08:12] <q_a_z_steve> not really live...
[08:13] <eps> q_a_z_steve, is that the gui installer or the text based one?
[08:13] <s0nix> Hoxzer_: im sure it is good... but... :P
[08:13] <q_a_z_steve> I was under the impression that the only live was on DVD.
[08:13] <eps> q_a_z_steve, nope
[08:13] <redblades> Hey hey all.
[08:13] <kazil> eps, that is exactly what i`m trying to do
[08:13] <q_a_z_steve> anyway it's blue and I have to tab around, so text?
[08:13] <kazil> just i don`t see any ".deb" file
[08:14] <eps> kazil, okies
[08:14] <kazil> just that 3 what i pasted before
[08:14] <KenSentMe> eps: about the ascii, in the down left corner i see U+00F1 LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH TILDE, how can i use that in openoffice?
[08:14] <eps> kazil, get the deb files from the ubuntu repos ... erm see ... archive.ubuntu.com in pool or some thing, should be heaps of them, find the ones you need
[08:15] <william_> is there a FLASH MX equivilant for ubuntu?
[08:15] <eps> KenSentMe, then that probably isn't a ascii char...but you can still copy it using the copy button and then just paste into open office
[08:15] <SpeedyIndy> how can you use Samba to share files on NTFS drives over a network?
[08:15] <eps> william_, not that I'm aware of...or not as proffesional as that...google
[08:15] <s0nix> william_:  do u tryed to run flashmx under wine ?
[08:15] <william_> naw
[08:15] <william_> I want something free that I can animate with
[08:16] <kazil>  libgstreamer-perl_0.07-2_i386.deb << i`ve found this
[08:16] <s0nix> kk
[08:16] <KenSentMe> eps: same goes for letter d , U+0064
[08:16] <eps> kazil, note that will probably need a lot of dependancies...check first to see what else you will need to get
[08:16] <william_> Any animation software or video editing would be cool
[08:16] <Hoxzer_> how do I include sshfs filesystem in the fstab if it requires pw?
[08:16] <william_> is wine free?
[08:16] <Hoxzer_> wine is free.
[08:16] <s0nix> yes
[08:17] <kazil> ok
[08:17] <william_> And I can run my windows apps with it?
[08:17] <KenSentMe> eps: ah, i see how it works, you can use U+00F1
[08:17] <spikeb_> some of them
[08:17] <william_> cool thanks!
[08:17] <william_> l8r
[08:17] <KenSentMe> william_: try installing blender
[08:17] <william_> blender?
[08:17] <william_> whats the command line?
[08:18] <kazil> [gst-plugins0.8_0.8.11.orig.tar.gz]  << i`ve dl-ed this, lets what happens :)
[08:18] <kazil> +see
[08:18] <william_> sudo apt-get blander ?
[08:18] <spikeb_> william_: wine's a neat thing, but don't forget to also search for linux replacements for your windows apps, you might find some neat stuff
[08:18] <q_a_z_steve> eps: How do I tell gui vs text, it's got color but it's not brown like the rest of ubuntu.
[08:18] <lightstar> Hoxzer_, why not create a password-less key and use that?
[08:18] <KenSentMe> william_: sorry, that's a 3d modelling program
[08:18] <william_> Yeah I know, I ditch windows to do so
[08:18] <SpeedyIndy> blender is still pretty cool
[08:18] <william_> I will try it :D
[08:18] <william_> Take care guys!
[08:18] <SpeedyIndy> peace
[08:18] <KenSentMe> william_: sudo apt-get install blender
[08:18] <SpeedyIndy> hah bit late
[08:18] <prwlr> hello
[08:18] <KenSentMe> yep
[08:19] <prwlr> hello
[08:19] <SpeedyIndy> can someone help me set up network share folders on NTFS drives??
[08:19] <prwlr> where's the trash can?
[08:19] <SpeedyIndy> bot. right
[08:19] <czer323> !samba
[08:19] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:19] <czer323>  ;)
[08:20] <czer323> I ahven't had time to try it myself, so ic ant' be of much help yet.
[08:20] <klystron2> hello all,  would someone happen to know why my computer reboots when it get's to the initrd.img, it's a non stop cycle.  This is after installing Dapper
[08:20] <SpeedyIndy> oh man, thanks czer323
[08:21] <KenSentMe> prwlr: in your home folder under /.Trash and in Gnome in the lower right corner
[08:21] <q_a_z_steve> william_ do you mean http://www.nvu.com/
[08:21] <prwlr> KenSentMe: i dont have the icon for the trash can on gnome. can i make a symlink of .Trash and configure that to empty on right click?
[08:21] <redblades> I am working with a WinXP box that uses thunderbird, I was wondering :how do I export all mail/addressbook/settings?
[08:22] <q_a_z_steve> eps: How do I tell gui vs text, it's got color but it's not brown like the rest of ubuntu.
[08:22] <klystron2> a friend thought that my VIA prossesor might be a problem with DAPPER
[08:22] <redblades> I will of course be migrating the box to ubuntu, with thunderbird
[08:22] <SpeedyIndy> why cant linux write to NTFS?
[08:22] <q_a_z_steve> it can!
[08:22] <gharz> guys, is it safe to delete all files and directory under /tmp folder?
[08:23] <SpeedyIndy> last i heard, that was experimental
[08:23] <KenSentMe> prwlr: what do you mean you don't have the icon? It's not on the desktop but in your status bar? Have you deleted it or something?
[08:23] <spikeb_> SpeedyIndy: apparently implementing safe writing to NTFS has been VERY difficult
[08:23] <B1zz> maybe Xubuntu?
[08:23] <q_a_z_steve> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[08:23] <czer323> Speedy> MS hasn't really released the details about how NTFS works, so... Linux software writers have been stumbling how to make it work for a while now.
[08:23] <SpeedyIndy> q_a_z_steve: hah, been there but their packages are rpms, and i cant seem to get them converted
[08:24] <redblades> gharz, yes, but not right away
[08:24] <KenSentMe> prwlr: you can also right click on the menu bar on the top of your screen and choose to add, then choose the trash can
[08:24] <czer323> I wonder...
[08:24] <StAfZe6> Hello
[08:24] <czer323> !ntfs
[08:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:24] <prwlr> KenSentMe: i must've done something foolish yes :) it's not here, anyway im shifting to fluxbox, but i would like to know if this "recyle bin" wannabe is only in gnome and not in other wms
[08:24] <gharz> redblades, what do u mean "but not right away"?
[08:24] <StAfZe6> out of interest
[08:24] <redblades> log into single user mode, then do  rm /tmp/*
[08:24] <redblades> Reboot
[08:24] <gharz> redblades, ahhh... ok.
[08:24] <chron> where can i get a sources list
[08:24] <KenSentMe> prwlr: as i said, you can add it by right clicking on the menu bar
[08:24] <redblades> I've found that otherwise things can get a bit... sticky
[08:25] <chron> i want to either edit /etc/apt/sourceslist
[08:25] <chron> sources.list
[08:25] <KenSentMe> !tell chron about sources
[08:25] <chron> what
[08:25] <KenSentMe> chron: you've got a message from ubotu
[08:25] <timboteam> czer323: I Installed ubuntu onto my laptop and was going to get network manager going again but it gives me an error that wont let it be installed
[08:25] <chron> !easysource
[08:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:26] <SpeedyIndy> well i best be going to sleep... I must say thank you though, I have fooled around with Ubuntu 6.06 for the whole day today, and I am QUITE impressed!
[08:26] <gharz> redblades, why is it that i can't access my ntfs partition using File Browser but i can access it using command line (Terminal)? any idea?
[08:26] <prwlr> KenSentMe: ok dude thanks
[08:26] <KenSentMe> prwlr: no problem
[08:27] <redblades> Hmm... I'm not sure... wait, from the command line, are you using "sudo"
[08:27] <redblades> ?
[08:27] <czer323> timboteam> is this the same computer as before?
[08:27] <gharz> redblades, even if i don't  sudo
[08:27] <chron> can someone tell me where i can just get a list of urls
[08:27] <gharz> i can browse using terminal...
[08:27] <chron> to edit on my sources.list
[08:27] <timboteam> yeah, but before I was running on the live cd, and then I installed the os onto the computer
[08:28] <gharz> this happened when my system upgraded the kernel.
[08:28] <redblades> gharz, I was wondering if maybe it was a permissions issue...
[08:28] <KenSentMe> !sources
[08:28] <timboteam> It says it failed to fetch all of the programs I try to add
[08:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[08:28] <czer323> timboteam> using the same instructions?
[08:28] <redblades> gharz, to be honest I have only ever shared with an ntfs partition once, now I'm a linux purist. :-)
[08:28] <timboteam> Yeah
[08:29] <timboteam> Something has changed since I installed it, and now I cant add applications
[08:29] <redblades> Perhaps someone else might know more
[08:29] <KenSentMe> chron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[08:29] <gharz> redblades, :)
[08:29] <gharz> thanks
[08:29] <KenSentMe> chron: here are some
[08:29] <czer323> timboteam> is that laptop online right now then?  Do you know how to use the terminal?
[08:29] <redblades> gharz, no problem
[08:29] <timboteam> It is on, I don't know what the terminal is
[08:29] <timboteam> its right next to me
[08:30] <redblades> gharz, also, if you wish to share file between, you can creat a small fat32 partition, and place things on it, to be shared.
[08:30] <kazil>  gstreamer0.8-tools_0.8.12-1ubuntu1_i386.deb dl-ed. next?
[08:30] <redblades> I don't recall how, but ti can be done
[08:30] <gharz> redblades, nice idea.
[08:30] <KenSentMe> timboteam: go to Applications>Accessoires>Terminal or something (i only know the words in dutch)
[08:30] <gharz> thanks.
[08:30] <redblades> : )
[08:30] <Hekta> you can create your own sources list here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:31] <redblades> timboteam, what did you use before Linux?
[08:31] <timboteam> Windows
[08:31] <timboteam> xp home
[08:31] <redblades> Hmm...
[08:31] <timboteam> would I be able to get the files off of the cd or something?
[08:31] <redblades> So, you probably didn't use a comannd line much?
[08:32] <redblades> timboteam, what CD?
[08:32] <timboteam> Not much,  but I have used cmd before
[08:32] <timboteam> Ubuntu live
[08:32] <redblades> cmd is like a very watered down verion of the linux terminal/Konsole
[08:32] <timboteam> I see.
[08:32] <gharz> redblades, what i did now is create a link on my desktop. now i can open my ntfs without going through the hassle of the File Browser.
[08:32] <redblades> so, you're heading in a similar direction but you have a lot more pwer
[08:33] <timboteam> Ok well what should I do
[08:33] <redblades> gharz, Good work!
[08:33] <timboteam> Cause without these programs I can't really do much with my computer
[08:33] <timboteam> like without network manager I won't be able to use the internet :/
[08:33] <killaz> morning, I need some good pdf viewer.. one where I can click on the link in the pdf and it jumps to the corect page..
[08:33] <czer323> timboteam> try to do these commands
[08:33] <timboteam> Fire away.
[08:34] <redblades> Well... it seems odd that network manager would go missing, but have you checked in synaptic to see if you can just reinstall it?
[08:34] <czer323> timboteam> apt-get update
[08:34] <timboteam> Wait where do I type that in
[08:34] <timboteam> I haven't gotten to the terminal yet
[08:34] <redblades> HAHAHA
[08:34] <czer323> redblades> he was running the livecd first, and it was working there.  now he's installed it.  I think that's the history here.
[08:34] <timboteam> That is indeed the history.
[08:34] <redblades> timboteam, I'm luaghing not at you, but becasue that was what I said two years ago when I started with Linux
[08:34] <czer323> timboteam> Try to click on applications> accessories> terminal
[08:35] <timboteam> Heh, allright.
[08:35] <timboteam> And I'm at terminal
[08:35] <redblades> Cool
[08:35] <timboteam> So you want me to type apt-get update
[08:35] <czer323> timboteam> apt-get update
[08:35] <timboteam> even though I don't have internet?
[08:35] <redblades> Huh?
[08:35] <czer323> well, you've gotta have it connected wtih ethernet, right?
[08:35] <timboteam> No
[08:35] <redblades> czer323, that's going to make it difficult
[08:35] <timboteam> Wireless
[08:35] <czer323> That's how you got it working last time didn't you?
[08:36] <timboteam> Last time I just went to applications > add/remove, put on network manager and entered my wep key
[08:36] <czer323> and then I thought you installed networkmanager
[08:36] <redblades> timbotean, I just realised what you meant.
[08:36] <czer323> timboteam> but weren't you online at that time with ethernet?
[08:36] <timboteam> But now when I try to install network manager i get an error
[08:36] <timboteam> No I was online on this computer, a PC
[08:36] <timboteam> We are working on my laptop
[08:36] <redblades> You can't get online, and you can't get the packages ytou need to go online without being... online
[08:36] <czer323> ahh, well, drats.
[08:36] <timboteam> Right
[08:37] <timboteam> Solution?
[08:37] <redblades> timboteam, can you not use this connection?
[08:37] <czer323> what's the message then.  is it long?
[08:37] <redblades> couldn't you just use this one until you get setup
[08:37] <redblades> ?
[08:37] <timboteam> What do you mean
[08:37] <timboteam> Use this computer?
[08:38] <redblades> Well, if you are using a ethernet, then just use the cable in the other computer and get online?
[08:38] <timboteam> I could try that
[08:38] <redblades> It might just work, and then you could get everything running from there
[08:38] <timboteam> But I'm going to have to disconnect from this irc :(
[08:38] <redblades> That's okay
[08:38] <redblades> I'll hang around
[08:38] <timboteam> Ok
[08:38] <czer323> word, but once you get it online with the laptop, you can reconnect to our irc ;)
[08:38] <timboteam> Maybe
[08:39] <timboteam> We'll see what happens
[08:39] <czer323> And the instructions should be pretty much the same.
[08:39] <timboteam> See you soon hopefully
[08:39] <redblades> Wait!
[08:39] <timboteam> What
[08:39] <robert_> what's the equivalent of Cyrus-sasl in Ubuntu?
[08:39] <redblades> Do you have an irc client on the other box?
[08:39] <Minty> morning
[08:39] <redblades> if not, Gaim or Xchat are your best bets
[08:39] <timboteam> Ok
[08:39] <hikikomori> hi
[08:39] <redblades> Hi
[08:39] <timboteam> So I can go?
[08:39] <redblades> sur
[08:39] <redblades> e
[08:40] <timboteam> K be back soon hopefully
[08:40] <redblades> cool
[08:40] <hikikomori> can anyone please tell me if there is any software like soundforge for ubuntu?
[08:40] <redblades> soundforge?
[08:40] <hikikomori> ?
[08:40] <Minty> anyone know a isql program that works under gnome rather that thru terminal ?
[08:40] <redblades> I'm sorry. what does it do?
[08:41] <hikikomori> yes , im looking for a sound editor for ubuntu
[08:41] <czer323> It's an audio waveform editor I believe.
[08:41] <_bt> sound recording/manipulation
[08:41] <hikikomori> yes
[08:41] <redblades> Oh, that's right
[08:41] <redblades> I remember, I actually used to use it!
[08:41] <hikikomori> is there something like this for ubuntu?
[08:41] <redblades> Hm...
[08:41] <redblades> Give me a second
[08:41] <hikikomori> ok thanx
[08:42] <biberao> hey
[08:42] <timbooo> OK!
[08:42] <timbooo> Here's the deal
[08:43] <timbooo> I am on the PC on the wireless connection
[08:43] <rredd4> i cannot find flashplugin-nonfree, universe and multiuniverse are enabled.  Where is it?
[08:43] <timbooo> I plugged the ethernet cable into my laptop (the one i'm trying to successfully get ubuntu working on)
[08:43] <timbooo> But then I realized, I have no idea how to connect to the internet, even though I have it plugged in now
[08:43] <czer323> !easyubunut
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about easyubunut
[08:43] <biberao> anyone here who works with DHCP server?
[08:43] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[08:43] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:43] <GOwin> i got a question about OOo2 on dapper 64-bit. Does OOo in your installation uses the gnome open/save dialog?
[08:44] <biberao> timbooo
[08:44] <biberao> you use wpa or wep or no password?
[08:44] <timbooo> Wait, nevermind, I am on the internet after all
[08:44] <timbooo> So now I have to try to get that network stuff on.
[08:44] <timbooo> 1 Moment
[08:44] <YoussefAssad> GOwin: 32 bit hee, but no
[08:44] <czer323> !networkmanager
[08:44] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[08:44] <redblades> hikikomori, MuSE
[08:44] <timbooo> I have to ask you'alls recommendation
[08:45] <timbooo> Should I just install everything I can get?
[08:45] <timbooo> Or are there a lot of useless applications
[08:45] <redblades> hikikomori, http://sourceforge.net/projects/lmuse
[08:45] <hikikomori> redblades
[08:45] <hikikomori> do i need to compile it?
[08:45] <redblades> ?
[08:45] <GOwin> thanks youssef. anyone else?
[08:45] <biberao> dhcp anyone?
[08:45] <redblades> hikikomori, it might be in the repos
[08:45] <hikikomori> ok im gonna look for it
[08:45] <YoussefAssad> GOwin: if you can figure out how to get it to use the gnome dialog, please let me know
[08:46] <redblades> hikikomori, It is
[08:46] <redblades> I found it
[08:46] <hikikomori> redblades
[08:46] <GOwin> youssef: will probably  post something to that effect in the support forums
[08:46] <redblades> yeah?
[08:46] <hikikomori> i cant find it
[08:46] <hikikomori> in which repositories?
[08:46] <redblades> apt-cache search muse?
[08:47] <tom3> hi, anybody up?
[08:47] <hikikomori> oh! i was looking for lmuse
[08:47] <redblades> Do you have unverse and multiverse enabled?
[08:47] <redblades> Oh
[08:47] <redblades> yeah the site refers to it as that for some reason
[08:47] <goudkov> is there a way to specify an exclude list for find?
[08:47] <redblades> tom3?
[08:47] <redblades> I'm up
[08:48] <hikikomori> it says muse is an audio sequencer
[08:48] <hikikomori> not a wave editor
[08:48] <redblades> Oop
[08:48] <redblades> Oops
[08:48] <n30n> whats the command for sending messages to other computers. its like net send in windows
[08:48] <dsas> goudkov: You could pipe the output to grep -v to filter out results. Don't know of a specific way using find itself though.
[08:48] <ddrj> hey everyone :) does this point to another computer on a network? root=/dev/rd/0 rw --
[08:49] <biberao> hello?
[08:49] <goudkov> dsas: yeah, that's what oi'm doing now.
[08:49] <redblades> hikikomori, Audacity!
[08:49] <tom3> I got a problem: I installed Ubuntu on a laptop, works great; on a different machine, 4 installations in a row, same thing: works perfect, on the first reboot only the shell works, nautilus shows no icons, only the menus and you can not select anything. did it for every reinstall. any idea?
[08:49] <redblades> That was the one I was trying to remeber!
[08:49] <n30n> whats the command for sending messages to other computers. its like net send in windows
[08:49] <hikikomori> ok thanx
[08:49] <timbooo> Redblades, czer323!!
[08:49] <Hekta> Hey guys I'm trying to receive a file in XChat and it won't work :(
[08:49] <timbooo> I have an issue now!
[08:49] <killaz> is there a trick where you can right-click on the inside of a folder and a window with the command "Open terminal  here..." opens..
[08:50] <czer323> timbooo> yeah?
[08:50] <dsas> n30n: You can use smbclient -M
[08:50] <redblades> tom3, I had an issue like that once, but it was because I was using a live cd under Vmware and had set the ram _really_l ow
[08:50] <dsas> killaz: You need to install nautilus-openterminal I think.
[08:50] <redblades> timbooo? Oh it's you
[08:50] <timbooo> Well now that I was able to download stuff, I tried "wireless assistant"
[08:50] <jasonm> HEllo
[08:50] <killaz> dsas, ok let me try that
[08:50] <redblades> Hwy
[08:50] <redblades> Hey
[08:50] <timbooo> And it once again is failing to connect
[08:50] <jasonm> im new to ubunu
[08:50] <redblades> Okay
[08:50] <redblades> Need help
[08:50] <redblades> ?
[08:50] <timbooo> Yes!
[08:50] <jasonm> yep
[08:50] <czer323> Timboo> FOr wireless connections, i seriously suggest trying Networkmanager
[08:50] <dsas> killaz: It's nautilus-open-terminal actually.
[08:51] <timbooo> Ok I'm trying that again, but it like didnt install for some reason
[08:51] <redblades> jasonm, with what?
[08:51] <n30n> dsas: so if i was to try to send a message to a given computer what would it be? smbclient -M <message?>
[08:51] <jasonm> i just did a fresh install, right now i have two issues off the bat it seems
[08:51] <czer323> timbooo> does it have an error message?
[08:51] <tom3> redblades: actually booting from the CD works fine everytime :) what do you mean by setting the ram really low? (speaking of ram, it works on a 128mb machine, not on the 1.2gb one :))
[08:51] <jasonm> 1) installing media codecs
[08:51] <timbooo> No it doesn't
[08:51] <timbooo> It just doesn't exist
[08:51] <jasonm> 2) mounting my second hard drive
[08:51] <dsas> n30n: smbclient -M COMPUTERTOSENDTO message (i think)
[08:52] <timbooo> It says it installed already but its not in my applications > internet
[08:52] <DShepherd> when logging into gnome I get a "I could not start your session ..." error http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-Xnest.jpg. I have to type gnome-session to start my session. How can I automate this?
[08:52] <timbooo> is it somewhere else?
[08:52] <redblades> tom3, VMware allows you to choose home much ram you use
[08:52] <dsas> !tell jasonm about restrictedformats
[08:52] <killaz> dsas, yup .. thnx!
[08:52] <dsas> !tell jasonm about ntfs
[08:52] <killaz> that is so much better
[08:52] <czer323> timbooo>usually its' an applet that runs in the top right.  Might look like two balls spinning around or a signal bar.
[08:52] <killaz> !tell killaz about ntfs
[08:52] <czer323> try to type at a terminal line: nm-applet
[08:52] <redblades> jasonm, I can't see the messages unless you include my name, (I can but they don't stand out) so use a name when you want someone's attention
[08:53] <Grebo5> Hello
[08:53] <darx> greetings
[08:53] <Grebo5> i have a big problem
[08:53] <Grebo5> :)
[08:53] <darx> how can i disable unwanted services from running at boot
[08:53] <timbooo> AAA
[08:53] <timbooo> I typed it and  I got a LOT OF TEXT
[08:53] <czer323> timbooo> know how to use pastebin?
[08:53] <redblades> jasonm, well, yes restrictedFormats is what you need, as for the second hard drive, I had a similar issue, and I have forgotten what I did... : )
[08:54] <timbooo> No I don't
[08:54] <redblades> darx
[08:54] <timbooo> and remember I'm on two computers
[08:54] <dsas> darx: see system->administration->services
[08:54] <ttongfly_> hi everyone
[08:54] <killaz> dsas, guess I have to login.. when I finished installing the package?
[08:54] <darx> redblades: howdy...
[08:54] <killaz> re-login*
[08:54] <darx> dsas: thanks
[08:54] <Grebo5> http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCSourceAndBinaryOnDifferentSites ; "The GPL says you must offer access to copy the source code "from the same place"; that is, next to the binaries." Could you tell me where the source code is then on that page. Apparently it isn't 'next to the binaries', and if that is so then that *is* a GPL violation.
[08:54] <n30n> dsad: (IP ADDRESS USED): Not enough '\' characters in service
[08:54] <Grebo5> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:55] <redblades> darx, sysv-rc-conf
[08:55] <redblades> darx, this is also another way to do it
[08:55] <timbooo> Ok wait I just logged out and back in and it says: "The networkmanager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue."
[08:55] <DShepherd> can anyone help
[08:55] <redblades> Yep
[08:55] <czer323> timbooo> So, you didn't get the other computer connected with ethernet?
[08:55] <darx> redblades: alright...
[08:55] <redblades> timbooo, apt-get -f install?
[08:55] <timbooo> I am connected with the ethernet
[08:55] <prgrmr> how can i remove compiled amule?
[08:55] <darx> redblades: thanksalot
[08:55] <timbooo> I'm trying to get network manager to work though
[08:55] <czer323> timbooo> pastebin is a website you can paste messages to so i can read them on that page.
[08:55] <czer323> !pastebin
[08:55] <jasonm> redblades, sorry about that. right,,, so i need to know how to format my second drive which is a ntsf drive, and mount it... secondly i need to know how to obtain and install codecs for playing dvd's, mp3's and all other codecs like ac3 audio and divx/xvid.... any help would be amazing.
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:55] <redblades> darx, sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[08:56] <DShepherd> prgrmr: did u install via apt?
[08:56] <dsas> n30n: I'm not sure then, it's a long time ago since I used it. maybe you have to specify the computer name in \\COMPNAME syntax for some reason?
[08:56] <redblades> jasonm, NO!
[08:56] <timbooo> Ok ill go to that
[08:56] <redblades> Don't format it!
[08:56] <timbooo> But wait
[08:56] <czer323> timboo> so try to copy the error message and paste it onto a page.  give me the link.
[08:56] <timbooo> But wait
[08:56] <prgrmr> DShepherd: no
[08:56] <dsas> jasonm: See help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for media issues
[08:56] <DShepherd> prgrmr: sudo make uninstall
[08:56] <eps> later all
[08:56] <timbooo> I logged out and back in so I don't have the error message
[08:56] <biberao> who can help me?
[08:56] <compengi> hi
[08:56] <jasonm> redblades, no?
[08:57] <compengi> how do i install limewire
[08:57] <redblades> jasonm, everything you need to know can be found at that site
[08:57] <jasonm> dsas, ok im checking
[08:57] <czer323> timbooo> oh really?
[08:57] <darx> redblades: i hope it offers more than what the services admin gui has to offer. i want to disable RAID and Bluetooth
[08:57] <redblades> jasonm, if you format it, you lose all that is on it!
[08:57] <timbooo> Yes really
[08:57] <redblades> darx, it gives you entire control
[08:57] <czer323> ... no wai
[08:57] <czer323> lol
[08:57] <darx> redblades: coolllll..
[08:57] <timbooo> I just got 92 updates, do you think that would have an affect on it?
[08:57] <timbooo> Shall I try again?
[08:57] <czer323> Okay, serious note though, yeah, go ahead and try to update.
[08:57] <redblades> darx, it's textbased in the terminal
[08:58] <timbooo> Ok it is installing software
[08:58] <redblades> but I think it should eb easy enough
[08:58] <czer323> timbooo> and look for that icon.  mine looks like 5 signal strength bars.
[08:58] <darx> redblades: does the manual installs with it?
[08:58] <timbooo> Yeah I had it
[08:58] <biberao> thx everyone!! ..
[08:58] <timbooo> When I was on the cd
[08:58] <timbooo> So I know what I'm looking for, but its not happening now
[08:58] <redblades> darx? the man page
[08:58] <redblades> ?
[08:59] <darx> redblades: yup...
[08:59] <timbooo> Can we do this in PM?
[08:59] <timbooo> This really bugs me
[08:59] <mada> what?
[08:59] <mada> oh, nvm
[08:59] <czer323> timbooo> well, after the updates, we'll try to run: nm-applet again, and if this doesnt' work, we'll try to reinstall networkmanager.
[08:59] <timbooo> Ok.
[08:59] <czer323> timbooo> yeah, that's fine.  just message me.
[08:59] <dsas> n30n: Is the other computer running samba? and if so make sure you're using it's netbios name, and the computers are in the same workgroup
[09:00] <redblades> darx, I'm fairly certain it always does
[09:00] <timbooo> I don't think I can message you cause I'm unregistered
[09:00] <darx> redblades: thanks a lot mate.. you are a gem..
[09:00] <darx> :)
[09:00] <redblades> Aww... thanks
[09:01] <timbooo> Yeah PMs are apparently blocked, but whatever, I'll deal.
[09:01] <DShepherd> when logging into gnome I get a "I could not start your session ..." error http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-Xnest.jpg. I have to type gnome-session to start my session. How can I automate this?
[09:01] <timbooo> My updates are close to getting finished.
[09:01] <czer323> timbooo> Shouldn't matter.  I'll right click on your name in my list and select to open dilog.
[09:01] <redblades> I feel Karmically well. I hope I'm propagating good Karma :)
[09:01] <DShepherd> anyone..someone?
[09:01] <n30n> dsas: they are just using novice windows. He sent me a message. and i've seen him send messages to windows before.
[09:01] <redblades> DShepherd, yes?
[09:01] <czer323> timbooo> you'll probably have to reboot.
[09:01] <czer323> btw, i messaged you.  check your messages.
[09:01] <DShepherd> redblades: can you assit?
[09:01] <DShepherd> assist*
[09:01] <redblades> pehaps
[09:01] <Yonda> I've been using tightVNC, but then added a password for security by using the /usr/bin/vncpasswd , but now i get connection refused with no chance of putting in a password
[09:01] <redblades> perhaps
[09:02] <DShepherd> redblades: ok.. well my prob.. is above
[09:02] <S0me1> .
[09:02] <dsas> n30n: Ok, if they are windows machines they will have samba running. Maybe it's worth checking the workgroups are the same. (Somewhere in /etc/samba/smb.conf i guess)
[09:02] <timbooo> Czer323: I did not get any messages.
[09:02] <redblades> DShepherd, what is the issue?
[09:02] <DShepherd> redblades: did u see it?
[09:02] <czer323> redblades> just out of curiousity, are you an ubuntu newb helping the newbites too? lol, i've only been using it for a couple of weeks.
[09:02] <aftertaf> Yonda, wait a bit, itll come back .... it does that.
[09:02] <redblades> Oh that...
[09:02] <DShepherd> redblades: yes
[09:02] <czer323> timbooo> so, you do or don't have the icon?
[09:02] <redblades> czer323, in a manner of speaking
[09:02] <Nathrak|IRC> can you get xgl for ubuntu precompiled?
[09:02] <timbooo> Ok, I am restarting my laptop
[09:02] <Yonda> aftertaf, How long should I need to wait?
[09:03] <SurfnKid> how come 5.10 has no APM support but 6.06 does?
[09:03] <compengi> how can i make ubuntu read russian text
[09:03] <SurfnKid> how can I add APM support to the kernel
[09:03] <alth> Is there a way to get Rhythymbox to repeat one song?
[09:03] <DShepherd> Nathrak|IRC: no from ubuntu..
[09:03] <redblades> I've been using it for a bit longer than that, but I'm still fairly new
[09:03] <timbooo> Updates are complete
[09:03] <czer323> !apm
[09:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about apm
[09:03] <SurfnKid> czer323: thanks anyway
[09:03] <n30n> dsas: no there is a command to just send a message to someone by just having their ip
[09:03] <DShepherd> Nathrak|IRC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager <-- check that out
[09:03] <czer323> lol, i wasn't sure.  I'm sure there's a how to in the wiki
[09:03] <timbooo> This problem solving has motivated me to stay awake lol
[09:03] <DShepherd> redblades: so...?
[09:03] <redblades> Oh...
[09:03] <aftertaf> Yonda, a coupe minutes
[09:04] <redblades> I'm not sure about that
[09:04] <czer323> timbooo> coffee motivates me to stay awake.
[09:04] <DShepherd> redblades: ok thanks
[09:04] <timbooo> I want this all to run flawlessly but at the same time I'm kindof enjoying just trial and error, troubleshooting with my newfound OS
[09:04] <redblades> I'm sorry
[09:04] <SurfnKid> czer323: 6.06 supports it with no problems, its 5.10 that has none. or just isnt compiled in kernel
[09:04] <darx> redblades: you are.. asadoma sadgamaya, thamasoma jyothirgamaya, mrithyoma amruthamgamaya (from the false to truth, from darkness to light, from mortality to immortality)..
[09:04] <dsas> n30n: maybe you can use the ip instead of the machine name in smbclient? If not I'm at a loss. Sorry.
[09:04] <compengi> how can i make ubuntu read russian text
[09:04] <rredd4> I get this error when I install easyubuntu,   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16253      any ideas why please?
[09:04] <redblades> darx, I hope that's a good thing...
[09:04] <SurfnKid> well gnite
[09:04] <n30n> dsas: im trying to. idk the syntax that well though
[09:05] <Nathrak|IRC> I'm here at my friend's house and I got ubuntu with his fast connection. Is there anything else I should get?
[09:05] <timbooo> czer323: Restart done, updates done, but i have to go grab the charger before my laptop dies
[09:05] <darx> redblades: just some sanskrit verses related to karma :)
[09:05] <Nathrak|IRC> linux-related that is
[09:05] <redblades> Oh cool
[09:05] <alth> Can you try to keep it on topic, redblades + darx? :)
[09:06] <redblades> alth... keep you hair on
[09:06] <redblades> : )
[09:06] <czer323> timbooo> word.  I read soemwhere that solving problems caueses the brain to release a small ammount of opiate into the bloodstream.  One might interpret that to mean that Linux is a drug.
[09:06] <alth> My hair is firmly attached ;)
[09:06] <redblades> Heheh
[09:06] <alth> #Ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[09:06] <hangfire> copengi, I think there is a unicode textreader in add and remove programs
[09:06] <darx> alth: sotty.......
[09:06] <timbooo> LOL
[09:06] <biberao> anyone knows how to make dhcp gives IP to two different networks like 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1
[09:06] <timbooo> Anyway, I'm done, what is our first order of business
[09:06] <darx> atyh: *sorry
[09:07] <czer323> timbooo> that icon.
[09:07] <timbooo> ..is not there.
[09:07] <sgbirch> I am trying to do a server install in dapper but the GUI installer doesn't give the boot prompt, any ideas?
[09:07] <redblades> Okay, now I have an issue, Basically, I want to export all the info like emails, addresses, setting from Thunderbird
[09:07] <czer323> timbooo> and nm-applet doesn't show anything?
[09:07] <Yonda> aftertaf, I was away from the computer for over an hour and it still ain't letting me in...
[09:07] <timbooo> let me try that again
[09:07] <timbooo> I type nm-applet in terminal?
[09:07] <DShepherd> rredd4: i think you need to install libglade2-0
[09:08] <aftertaf> Yonda, id try a different vnc client in that case...
[09:08] <czer323> timboo> yep
[09:08] <Yonda> aftertaf, Do you have any recommendations apart from TightVNC?
[09:08] <timbooo> I believe it opened
[09:08] <DShepherd> !freenx
[09:08] <timbooo> I got no error, no text
[09:08] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[09:08] <timbooo> Just another Icon
[09:09] <DShepherd> Yonda: wanna try that one
[09:09] <rredd4> DShepherd  ok, a python error?
[09:09] <sgbirch> Can someone help with a basic install question?
[09:09] <aftertaf> freenx :] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] 
[09:09] <DShepherd> rredd4: what python error?
[09:09] <dsas> sgbirch: We don't know until you ask the question :)
[09:09] <pc10> hello
[09:09] <czer323> timboo> what's the icon look like?
[09:09] <timbooo> Right now its the two balls with the blue thing around it
[09:09] <timbooo> theres two of them, but I decided to unplug the ethernet and see if its working now
[09:09] <rredd4> DShepherd  just asking if my error is a python error...
[09:09] <redblades> sgbirch... I 'm fairly certian that you can opt for more oprions on bootup
[09:09] <czer323> timboo> that's network manager.  the two balls means it's trying to find a network.
[09:10] <redblades> dsas, he already did
[09:10] <DShepherd> rredd4: i think you need to install sudo apt-get install libglade2-0 and see if the error persists
[09:10] <sgbirch> dsas: If I do F1/F3 it lists server as an option, but I dont see how to get the boot: prompt
[09:10] <czer323> timbooo> see if you can't mess around with the options some.  single click and right click have different menus.
[09:10] <dsas> redblades, sgbirch: Ahh, sorry, it was some way up the scrollback.
[09:10] <Yonda> DShepherd, Does FreeNX create another session or use the current one?
[09:10] <redblades> :-)
[09:10] <timbooo> Yeah, it finds my network
[09:11] <DShepherd> Yonda: not sure.. I have never used it. heard its good though
[09:11] <sgbirch> dsas: np .. I think older installers used to give you a boot: prompt.  It aint there any more afaics
[09:11] <dsas> sgbirch: If you're doing a server install you probably want to get the server cd rather than the desktop one.
[09:11] <Yonda> DShepherd, ok thanks
[09:11] <timbooo> I am messing with it
[09:11] <sgbirch> dsas: It is the server cd
[09:11] <czer323> timbooo> and it connects to it?
[09:11] <DShepherd> Yonda: sure
[09:11] <timbooo> Not quite
[09:11] <timbooo> Something changed
[09:11] <sgbirch> the disktop one appears to be a live install disk. Im confused
[09:11] <timbooo> One ball is green
[09:11] <timbooo> one is grey
[09:12] <DShepherd> dsas  http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-Xnest.jpg. <-- do you know why i am getting this when I log in
[09:12] <DShepherd> dsas: better yet,, how do i fix it
[09:12] <redblades> sgbirch, it's a live CD as well as an installl
[09:12] <KevinIN72> hey everyone, has anyone set up ftp on there server.  im lookin for some help with it
[09:12] <dragoon> fsking maccas
[09:12] <alth> sgbirch: Boot into the live CD, click the 'install' icon on the desktop.
[09:12] <sgbirch> oh. I found that confusing but I assume it is noob friendly :)
[09:12] <elknof3> does somebody have limewire installed on dapper??
[09:12] <redblades> noob
[09:12] <DShepherd> elknof3: yes  i do
[09:12] <redblades> elknof, yes
[09:13] <czer323> timbooo> i'm not sure what that means.  try that terminal again, and tell me what your ip address is.  you can find it by typing: ifconfig
[09:13] <dsas> DShepherd: I don't know, something is broke in your normal session, so it's starting the failsafe.
[09:13] <timbooo> Ok
[09:13] <DShepherd> dsas: i guessed that part.
[09:13] <KevinIN72> :( anyone, help with ftp
[09:13] <redblades> elknof3, might I suggest you use Frostwire?
[09:13] <elknof3> DShepherd, how you did it??
[09:13] <alth> Frostwire crashes for me :(
[09:13] <redblades> elknof3, Do you have java installed?
[09:13] <sgbirch> alth: But, do you know how to get the boot: prompt with the server install CD?
[09:13] <rredd4> DSheperd  libglade2-0 is already the newest version
[09:14] <elknof3> redblades, frostwire is supposed to be in the repos, but adept couldnt find it
[09:14] <redblades> How odd?
[09:14] <redblades> : )
[09:14] <DShepherd> elknof3: when to the site.. downloaded limewire. install java and run the startup script
[09:14] <Hobbsee> !info frostwire
[09:14] <alth> sgbirch: Sorry, nope, haven't used the alternate CD myself.
[09:14] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in dapper
[09:14] <elknof3> yeah, i've already installed sun-java5-bin package
[09:14] <Hobbsee> mmm okay
[09:14] <alth> Evening Hobbsee.
[09:14] <KevinIN72> !ftpsetup
[09:14] <ttongfly_> 
[09:14] <Knome> phew! just edited the ubuntu wiki
[09:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about ftpsetup
[09:14] <DShepherd> rredd4: hhmm i have no clue
[09:14] <Hobbsee> hi alth
[09:14] <rredd4> ok
[09:14] <Hobbsee> Knome: nice work :)
[09:14] <timbooo> czer, which one is my ip
[09:14] <DShepherd> Hobbsee:   http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-Xnest.jpg. <-- do you know why i am getting this when I log in
[09:14] <elknof3> then i've tryied to run the runLime.sh file but nothing
[09:15] <DShepherd> Hobbsee: and how to fix it
[09:15] <DShepherd> elknof3: you have java installed?
[09:15] <sgbirch> has anyone had trouble with setserial on dapper?
[09:15] <elknof3> Dshepherd, sun-java5-bin? yes
[09:16] <Hobbsee> DShepherd: absolutely no idea - i dont use gnome.
[09:16] <KevinIN72> so no one has ftp on there server??
[09:16] <DShepherd> Hobbsee: ok
[09:16] <elknof3> Dshepherd, do i need something else??
[09:16] <rredd4> Hobbsee  hi.... I am getting this error when I install easyubuntu, any ideas please.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16253
[09:16] <DShepherd> elknof3: ... i dont think so
[09:16] <czer323> timbooo> it should say inet addr:
[09:16] <Knome> Easy Ubuntu isn't officially supported is it?
[09:16] <alth> To whoever was looking for Frostwire: http://www.frostwire.com/, Ubuntu/Debian version.
[09:16] <Hobbsee> Knome: not currently
[09:16] <DShepherd> elknof3: runLime.sh <-- that;s the file you clicking right?
[09:16] <czer323> knome> no, but it's recommended.
[09:16] <timbooo> 127.0.0.1
[09:17] <Hobbsee> rredd4: ask in #easyubuntu
[09:17] <elknof3> DShepherd, for sure...
[09:17] <L-----D> Knome: it isn't, i think
[09:17] <Knome> It froze when I tried it
[09:17] <czer323> timbooo> how many entries did you find?  I have two on mine.  lo and ath0.  lo is local.  but, its' not something that can get you online.
[09:17] <DShepherd> elknof3: i dont have a clue why that wouldnt be working
[09:17] <rredd4> Hobbsee did that, only 10 people there...
[09:18] <timbooo> I'm not seeing those different types
[09:18] <dinamizador> ldld
[09:18] <elknof3> i mean, nothing happens, at all, i remember on breeze a pop up asking if i really wanted to execute the file but now ....  nothing at all
[09:18] <timbooo> Why can't I freaking get those network manager options open again
[09:18] <czer323> timbooo> then try iwconfig
[09:18] <timbooo> The ones I had to type the WEP key in before I am not seeing
[09:19] <timbooo> I';m not getting an ip from iwconfig
[09:19] <hangfire> does anyone know how to make the transparent background for the console window work so you can see program windows and browser windows underneith instead of just seeing the desktop?
[09:20] <DShepherd> hangfire: its not possible in gnome.. not just yet :-)
[09:20] <KevinIN72> anyone tell me why this isnt working 'sudo apt-get install gftp'
[09:20] <hangfire> ok, thx DShepherd
[09:20] <czer323> iwconfig should just show wireless interfaces.
[09:20] <thoreauputic> !info gftp
[09:20] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[09:20] <DShepherd> hangfire: ok
[09:20] <timbooo> Ok well what am I looking for
[09:20] <czer323> timbooo> so, i'm wondering if ti even realizes if you have a card now.
[09:20] <thoreauputic> KevinIN72: you need the universe repo
[09:20] <KevinIN72> thoreauputic: that is
[09:20] <timbooo> Well what am I looking for
[09:20] <czer323> timbooo> I think networkmanager is definately working, but you don't have any active devices for it to use.
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !tell KevinIN72 about repos
[09:21] <elknof3> DShepherd, do you think that the difference could be cause im under kubuntu??
[09:21] <timbooo> Why haven't I been able to type in my WEP key like before
[09:21] <timbooo> What is the different
[09:21] <timbooo> difference
[09:21] <DShepherd> elknof3: maybe..
[09:21] <czer323> timbooo> exactly what I said before.  i'm not sure it realizes you have a wireless card.
[09:21] <DShepherd> elknof3: not sure though
[09:21] <timbooo> Then how do I tell it that I do
[09:22] <czer323> timbooo> try to check System> administration> network settings.  tell me how many devices you find there.
[09:22] <DShepherd> elknof3: what are you trying to install with easyubuntu?
[09:22] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! What shall I do when I receive this message: "checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no
[09:22] <ltibor65> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[09:22] <ltibor65> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[09:22] <ltibor65> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
[09:22] <ltibor65> *** full path to gtk-config.
[09:22] <ltibor65> configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
[09:22] <dsas> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:22] <redblades> !paste
[09:22] <timbooo> That's not an option, theres networking and network tools
[09:22] <redblades> Oops
[09:22] <redblades> You got there first
[09:22] <rredd4> timbooo  if you are using ndiswrapper    type   ndiswrapper -l   and tell us what it says
[09:23] <timbooo> I got to devices and it says I have two I guess
[09:23] <timbooo> I don't know what ndiswrapper is
[09:23] <jasonm> redblades, i checked the restricedformats page, and i was going to go with the 'make things work in a hurry' method... the page says there is a list of packages i need.
[09:23] <jasonm> im assuming i download these from the synaptic package manager, but i cant find them in the list when searching.. can anyone offer help
[09:23] <czer323> timbooo> networking it is
[09:23] <elknof3> DShepherd, i'm not using easyubuntu...    maybe someone else..
[09:23] <timbooo> Ok now what am I looking for
[09:24] <timbooo> It says "Wireless connection," "ethernet connection," "Modem connection"
[09:24] <redblades> jasonm, try this, "sudo apt-get install package-names-here"
[09:24] <timbooo> It appears I have the wireless, and it says "The interface eth1 is active."
[09:24] <KevinIN72> thoreauputic: so i need to install the right thing
[09:24] <thoreauputic> KevinIN72: just follow the repositories URL ubotu sent you
[09:24] <czer323> timbooo> refer back to the networkmanager instructions.  it says to disable these i think
[09:24] <czer323> !networkmanager
[09:24] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[09:24] <thoreauputic> KevinIN72: you can add repositories in synaptic
[09:25] <DShepherd> elknof3: ok
[09:25] <holycow_> hellow fellow ubuntu peeps
[09:25] <Frogzoo> where does Gnome get its environment variables?
[09:26] <timbooo> I'm not seeing that
[09:26] <czer323> timbooo> it's in the issues section i think.
[09:26] <holycow_> Frogzoo, gconf
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: from a small planet near alpha centauri, probably
[09:26] <czer323> check the dapper section under issues.  try to do those things.
[09:26] <elknof3> DShepherd, how can i check if java is working??
[09:26] <Frogzoo> holycow_: yes, but setting /etc/environment, or /etc/profile doesn't get picked up - so where can I set them?
[09:26] <Minty> how do I edit and save mi sources.list ??
[09:27] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: you think so? any evidence to support this wild conjecture, hmmm?
[09:27] <KevinIN72> thoreauputic: ok i think i found it thanks....
[09:27] <holycow_> Frogzoo, set what specifically? from command line there is a gconeditor or you can use the gui gconf editor as well
[09:27] <czer323> timbooo> I think the issue is that it's using the settings from ubuntu's default manager, and not networkmanager, which is a different program.
[09:27] <holycow_> what are you setting up specifically?
[09:27] <jasonm> redblades, im a little confused, do i do this in the terminal or with that package manager app, ...is that app just for packages i already have?
[09:27] <jasonm> redblades, you mind if i PM you?
[09:27] <DShepherd> elknof3: other than funning a java app.. not usre
[09:27] <DShepherd> sure*
[09:27] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: just the otherworldly aspects of gnome ;-)
[09:27] <RancidLM> hey all im looking to setup a server and im interested in using ubuntu server.. is this still good though since every things using sudo?
[09:27] <Knome> I'm new at editing the wiki but any comments/suggestions are welcome here it is at the bottom of the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Multimedia
[09:27] <farous> hi how can i prevent the auto-detection and display in nautilus > computer. for my hidden partitions?
[09:27] <timbooo> Ok so how do I change that
[09:27] <timbooo> How do I solve my problem
[09:28] <redblades> jasonm, go ahead
[09:28] <holycow_> RancidLM, its actually perfect, BUT using ubuntu as a server is not a good idea for a few other reasons.  mainly because it is a frozen debian UNSTABLE ... something you should never use as a server
[09:28] <Daniel0> is there anything else i need to do after running "apt-get install php5"? because it do not work
[09:28] <kinema> does anyone know of a program that using traceroute, ping and other such utilities can determine which from a list of hosts/servers/mirrors is closest to you?
[09:28] <DShepherd> :-( .. anyone.. help
[09:28] <czer323> timbooo> that article talks about what to do.  again, in the issues section, under dapper.
[09:28] <holycow_> RancidLM, ubuntu only supports like 2000 packages by default, if you use anything outside of that as server it will be newer  but it won't be supported with security updates and usually will have some flaw
[09:28] <thoreauputic> holycow_: umm - that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu I guess...
[09:28] <czer323> timboo> start with "If it is not managing your network connections after upgrading to Dapper,"
[09:28] <elknof3> does someone knows how to check if java is working??
[09:29] <Frogzoo> holycow_: I need to pass "MAIL" to my mail-notification applet...
[09:29] <holycow_> RancidLM, a better option for server would be debian stable, you get 16 000 security updated packages out of the box
[09:29] <holycow_> Frogzoo, thats just my humble opinion, others may see it differently
[09:29] <timbooo> Am I supposed to be writing the things in those boxes into terminal?
[09:29] <RancidLM> holycow_: u see the only draw back is.. for a server iv been using a OLD suse. or something and im addicted to yast as a console controll panel never really used any thing else as a server
[09:29] <farous> also was thinking of changing to powersaved. is it better or worse then powernowd that is installed by default
[09:29] <timbooo> Sorry, but I am VERY NEW to linux, and I'm not really understanding all of that section
[09:30] <thoreauputic> kinema: netselect
[09:30] <thoreauputic> !info netselect
[09:30] <ubotu> netselect: Choose the fastest server automatically. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-5 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 92 kB
[09:30] <Frogzoo> brb
[09:30] <holycow_> RancidLM, yeah i used to use suse too, but i hated yast.  you arent going to get anything here even remotely close to yast system admin tools ... but kinda sorta
[09:31] <kinema> thoreauputic: thanks
[09:31] <Knome> Daniel0: apt-get install libapache-mod-php5 php5-mysql php5-gd
[09:31] <farous> ok how can i force udev to pass the automatic detection of my hidden partition
[09:31] <farous> kinema: when you use netselect though backup your sources.list file
[09:31] <holycow_> RancidLM, ubuntu does use an updated gnome and a lot of frontend polish so it 'might' be a tad easier to admin, but for server stuff it will pay off to learn how to setup whatever server thing you need the hard way ...
[09:31] <czer323> timbooo> it's telling you to type commands in terminal and then edit a file it's going to open.
[09:31] <holycow_> i'm not really answering your question am ai?
[09:31] <idanimrod> hello, just wondering, anyone still using breezy?
[09:31] <holycow_> lol
[09:32] <Daniel0> Knome: it says "Package libapache-mod-php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package." when i try to do that
[09:32] <MattSta> i am having problems installing wine
[09:32] <czer323> timbooo> essentially, you just need to 'comment out a line' in a file.  Just need to open the files it's talking about and put a # in the front of some of those sections.
[09:32] <Diem> Is eps still here?
[09:32] <MattSta> there is an error
[09:32] <Knome> Daniel0  - that's all I got bro
[09:32] <timbooo> It asked me for a password?
[09:32] <timbooo> when I tried to type in the first command
[09:32] <killaz> maybe not the right place to ask... but anyone in here nstalled the vmware server?
[09:32] <timbooo> and then it wouldnt type anything in when I tried to type
[09:33] <Daniel0> ok
[09:33] <MattSta> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[09:33] <MattSta> J2SDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[09:33] <MattSta> archives:
[09:33] <MattSta>     j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip
[09:33] <MattSta> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[09:33] <MattSta> Please visit
[09:33] <MattSta>     http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
[09:33] <MattSta> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[09:33] <MattSta> to /tmp.
[09:33] <Minty> Help please I know how to sudo gedit /etc/apt.sources.list but cant save it as it wont allow me to
[09:33] <MattSta> thats the error
[09:33] <MattSta> anyone please
[09:34] <hangfire> is there a link for installing sun java? I see this question asked all the time
[09:34] <DShepherd> !java
[09:34] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:34] <farous> MattSta: state your question on one to tow lines then wait someone will help for sure
[09:34] <Knome> Daniel0 try = apache modconf apache enable mod_php5
[09:34] <oni-dracula> hey does anyone know how to obtain a copy of the Raptor: Call of the Shadows linux port?
[09:34] <farous> hangfire: sun java is already in multiverse
[09:34] <Daniel0> Knome: nevermind, i found out what the problem with php was
[09:34] <Knome> edit= apache-modconf
[09:34] <MattSta> ok, sorry, i am trying to install wine, but an error message comes up in the terminal
[09:35] <Knome> ok
[09:35] <pez> Has anyone installed iTunes, in Ubuntu?
[09:35] <SiliconViper> oni-dracula, *nods* I have a copy of it kicking around somewhere.
[09:35] <holycow_> oni-dracula, in this channel we buy it :)
[09:35] <czer323> timboo> yeah, that's pretty normal. it wasts the user password that you setup when you created the account.
[09:35] <Hobbsee> MattSta: please dont paste
[09:35] <hangfire> farous- well its not default
[09:35] <Hobbsee> !tell pez about restricted
[09:35] <czer323> timbooo> when you type, nothing shows up.  That's normal.  just type it an hit return .
[09:35] <oni-dracula> well, they do have a SHAREWARE version for DOS/Win
[09:35] <farous> MattSta: use the pastebin
[09:35] <SiliconViper> oni-dracula, if I can recall where I bought it, I'll let you know.
[09:35] <MattSta> what is pastenbin
[09:35] <timbooo> The file isnt matching up
[09:35] <oni-dracula> SiliconViper, that would be kind of you
[09:35] <SiliconViper> oni-dracula, no worries.
[09:36] <farous> hangfire: default? if they enable the multiverse they can install it no fuss :)
[09:36] <timbooo> Their description is different than mine, and I dont know whats wrong
[09:36] <farous> !tell MattSta about pastebin
[09:36] <Knome> http://www.pastebin.com == paste your sh*t here
[09:36] <farous> ok someone more familiar with ubuntu new synatax can help then
[09:37] <Micksa> phwoar.
[09:37] <Micksa> can people talk about dapper in here now? :)
[09:37] <dsas> Micksa: Yes.
[09:37] <hangfire> farous, yes I know its installs with no fuss, but when you compile with javac filename.java, it will get compiled with that stupid gnu java
[09:37] <SiliconViper> Okay, so here's the story. I installed WinXP, 'cause I needed to run some software for work. Aaannnd.... I screwed up GRUB. -_- Google overloads my brain, but I recall something good on the Wiki about fixing it. I don't care if Windows boots again, I already finished what needed to be finished.
[09:37] <czer323> timbooo> paste bin what yours looks like.
[09:37] <czer323> !pastebin
[09:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:38] <farous> hangfire: you need to select sun-java. in a terminal type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:38] <hangfire> ok, thx for that farous
[09:38] <Knome> man X sh*t itself and died when I tried to install xgl/compiz
[09:38] <SiliconViper> Anyone mind telling me (or linking me to a doc) how to reinstall grub to the MBR again?
[09:38] <farous> hangfire: will be given a menu with all the java installed select what you prefer
[09:38] <holycow_> SiliconViper, you installed windows after installing ubuntu?
[09:38] <holycow_> ah okay
[09:38] <MattSta> i sent the pastebin
[09:38] <holycow_> !dualboot
[09:38] <SiliconViper> holycow_, unfortunately, yes.
[09:38] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[09:38] <holycow_> maybe that will help you?
[09:38] <farous> MattSta: ok give us the link in the room
[09:39] <Micksa> okay. A recent dist-upgrade (from dapper, previously post-release anyway) caused a few things to go wonky.  when I start an app from panel the cute box zoomy thing is arse slow.  Also the keyboard repeat is acting up, and repeats at weird intervals rather than what you would expect.
[09:39] <Minty> Help please I know how to sudo gedit /etc/apt.sources.list but cant save it as it wont allow me to
[09:39] <Micksa> anyone else had problems like these?
[09:39] <Frem> How can I set NdisWrapper as the default wifi driver instead of MadWifi? I've got it all loaded and working and everything, but how do I make it the default?
[09:39] <Micksa> it's an inspiron 6000
[09:39] <hangfire> super, thx farous
[09:39] <MattSta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16255
[09:39] <farous> hangfire :)
[09:39] <SiliconViper> holycow_, that's the document I was thinking of, thanks.
[09:40] <SiliconViper> However... it doesn't help. -_- Damn.
[09:40] <farous> MattSta: this is not an error just follow those instructions
[09:40] <farous> MattSta: that is for java docs right
[09:40] <SiliconViper> It just tells how to install Ubuntu after Windows... which isn't something I really want to do. I already HAVE a wonderfully happy Ubuntu installation.
[09:41] <MattSta> but i installed java already
[09:41] <farous> SiliconViper: do you have install disc
[09:41] <Madpilot> SiliconViper, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:41] <SiliconViper> farous, yep.
[09:41] <timbooo> Does pastebin usually take 3 hours to upload a few lines of text?
[09:41] <farous> MattSta: this to install the documentation. the package is to help you install it
[09:41] <_extricate_> can i use sudo apt get to get the latest firefox version?
[09:41] <timbooo> finally
[09:42] <timbooo> czer323: http://pastebin.com/724894
[09:42] <timbooo> thats what I got
[09:42] <dsas> _extricate_: doing that will get you firefox 1.5
[09:42] <Hoxzer_> _extricate_: :/ I dont think so
[09:42] <MattSta> i am kind of confused
[09:42] <holycow_> SiliconViper, i don't know the direct answer, but you know what
[09:42] <_extricate_> damn
[09:42] <_extricate_> so i gotta do it manually :(
[09:42] <Hoxzer_> Is it possible to get 1.5 vai apt-get ? :O
[09:42] <_extricate_> thanks guys
[09:42] <holycow_> you can reinstall ubuntu over top of it self and that will reinstall grub
[09:42] <farous> SiliconViper: put it in and boot. at the boot prompt type rescue. do not worry follow the menu and you will get at the end an option to reinstall grub. it is recommended ot use an installation cd not a live one
[09:42] <dsas> _extricate_: firefox 1.5.04 to be exact.
[09:42] <holycow_> then you can just go into grub.conf and point it to your windows dir ... as per those documents you are reading
[09:42] <Minty> help you guys as I am stuck, how do i save my sources.list file as it is a read only file
[09:43] <Flannel> SiliconViper, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:43] <Hobbsee> Minty: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a console
[09:43] <holycow_> farous, but he installed winxp after ubuntu and no longer has grub installed, he can't exactly get ubuntu running,no?
[09:43] <dsas> _extricate_: So it will get you the latest version
[09:43] <Zambezi> Is the a command to show added servers? Added by /addserver irc.freenode.net
[09:43] <Flannel> holycow_, you too, or... whoever actually needed it.
[09:43] <holycow_> Flannel, not me no
[09:43] <Minty> Hobbsee can do that but it wont let me save it :(
[09:43] <SiliconViper> farous, holycow_, if I reinstall, will it revert to the older version? I'm booting from a 5.10 LiveCD.
[09:43] <Flannel> SiliconViper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:44] <holycow_> SiliconViper, well download th enew one of course
[09:44] <Hobbsee> Minty: if you stick sudo in front, it will
[09:44] <neutrinomass> Minty: Pay attention to the  "sudo" part of Hobbsee command ...
[09:44] <SiliconViper> Flannel, already got it from farous, and am reading it at the moment.
[09:44] <czer323> Timboo> I'm submitting an update to that file.  I'll tell you when it's done saving.
[09:44] <farous> SiliconViper: reinstalling grub you will have your system as is not the old one
[09:44] <holycow_> SiliconViper, oh this is actually correct info, this will work indeed
[09:45] <holycow_> farous, or whoever, nice i didn't see that before
[09:45] <holycow_> is that in the ubotu? it should be
[09:45] <holycow_> !rescue
[09:45] <SiliconViper> holycow_, I already have a functional Ubuntu 6.06 installation, though.. should I really need to download a newer ISO?
[09:45] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:45] <S0me1> .
[09:45] <jasonm> when i try to install packages i get the message
[09:45] <jasonm> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly.
[09:45] <holycow_> SiliconViper, newer live cd yes, this is what these instructions need
[09:45] <Minty> Hobbsee / Neutrin. Ok I'm a pratt thought that I had sudo'd it, many thanks
[09:45] <SiliconViper> holycow_, farous, Flannel. Thanks for the help.
[09:45] <compengi> who knows how to configure boot
[09:46] <gnuyen> hey, does anyone know of a way to replace a string in multiple files?
[09:46] <czer323> timbooo> check it: http://pastebin.com/724901
[09:46] <Frogzoo> !recoveringgrub
[09:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:46] <timbooo> Ok thanks czer3233
[09:46] <timbooo> *323
[09:46] <gnuyen> i tried using sed, but it just outputs to stdout, i want it to actually replace the files
[09:46] <tomlikestorock> please god tell me there is a channel dedicated to ati driver problems for ubuntu
[09:46] <holycow_> Frogzoo, cool danke
[09:46] <gnuyen> and creating a temporary file and copying it over seems wrong
[09:46] <Frogzoo> holycow_: yw
[09:46] <gnuyen> i'm sure there's an easier way
[09:46] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, well unfortunately its called #gobuynvidiacard
[09:46] <holycow_> *cough*
[09:46] <holycow_> that was a little joke
[09:46] <Knome> haha
[09:46] <holycow_> :)
[09:46] <tomlikestorock> holycow: little jokes don't fit into my laptop ;)
[09:47] <tomlikestorock> I'm stuck with this thing :(
[09:47] <compengi> when i updated the ubuntu at boot there are 2 kernel systems how can i remove one
[09:47] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, lol sorry
[09:47] <farous> compengi: use synaptic
[09:47] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, well what is the problem exactly
[09:47] <czer323> timboo> try to save that and then restart the computer once that file has been updated.
[09:47] <Frogzoo> tomlikestorock: which vid card? if it's +8500 radeon, install fglrx
[09:47] <farous> it is liunx-image-,,, pacakage
[09:47] <tomlikestorock> it's an X700 mobility
[09:47] <oni-dracula> where exactly does one find a .deb of grub conf?
[09:47] <Frem> How can I make ubuntu load the ndiswrapper module and NOT the ath_pci* modules? /etc/modules just has lp and psmouse in it, so I assume that even if I stick ndiswrapper in it, the madwifi stuff will still be loaded.
[09:47] <tomlikestorock> the default drivers work, I'm using the thing now
[09:47] <S0me1> .
[09:47] <compengi> how do i remove it
[09:47] <Frogzoo> !fglrx
[09:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <bjv> i used to be able to reset the clock with /etc/init.d/nfssomethingorantother
[09:48] <tomlikestorock> problem is I'm not getting correct resolutions or 3d from the card
[09:48] <bjv> they changed the name with dapper?
[09:48] <bjv> how do you reset the clock with ntp now?
[09:48] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, thats just configuration
[09:48] <tomlikestorock> I tried ati's drivers, they actually made the touchpad wonky. reinstalled.
[09:48] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, read the instructions frogzoo posted, both problems are solved by those instructions
[09:48] <bjv> !ntp
[09:48] <compengi> farous how do i remove it
[09:48] <tomlikestorock> currenly, I've done a sudo apt-get install firegl-control which downloaded all the firegl stuff
[09:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about ntp
[09:49] <farous> compengi: just uninstall it
[09:49] <tomlikestorock> holycow: the binarydriverhowto link?
[09:49] <holycow_> yep
[09:49] <Frogzoo> holycow_: you mean to suggest that people should actually read the info suggested?! zounds...
[09:49] <tomlikestorock> :( I feel like I'm going in circles
[09:49] <holycow_> Frogzoo, lol
[09:49] <neutrinomass> bjv: I think it's ntpdate....
[09:50] <holycow_> i know man i know, its hard to keep on repeating the same thing every day
[09:50] <bjv> neutrinomass:   /etc/init.d/ntpdate: No such file or directory
[09:50] <jasonm> redblades, im not sure if you were getting the messages i was sending you. im using the gaim irc client.
[09:50] <holycow_> http://videosift.com/story.php?id=4248  <-- offtopic but neat re: 3d desktop
[09:50] <neutrinomass> bjv: Sorry, /usr/bin/ntpdate
[09:50] <tomlikestorock> frogzoo: it's just that I've been there... done that
[09:50] <compengi> farous, i'm a new linux user
[09:50] <tomlikestorock> frogzoo: guess I'll rereread
[09:51] <Frogzoo> holycow_: oh, and if you export env variables from /etc/profile, gnome picks it up quite happily
[09:51] <Frogzoo> tomlikestorock: there's a good idea
[09:51] <holycow_> Frogzoo, oh really?
[09:51] <holycow_> i didn't know that
[09:51] <timbooo> wait
[09:51] <timbooo> czer323
[09:51] <timbooo> What am I saving?
[09:51] <czer323> timbooo
[09:51] <timbooo> and how do I update?
[09:51] <neutrinomass> bjv: Of course, you can go to the clock/date thingy at the top right of a default gnome installation and synchronize from there
[09:51] <DShepherd>   http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i141/DShepherd_photos/?action=view&current=Screenshot-Xnest.jpg. how do i fix this error?
[09:52] <farous> thoreauputic: yah that is better thanx :)
[09:52] <czer323> timbooo> that file you opened.  see the changes i made in the pastebin?  just add those # infront of everything but the localhost.
[09:52] <czer323> and then save that file.
[09:52] <elknof3> !paste
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:52] <timbooo> I am reloading the page, and for some reason pastebin takes FOREVER for me
[09:53] <bjv> neutrinomass: ah, i do not run gnome, but yeah otherwise id do that
[09:53] <Daniel0> how do you rename files in the terminal?
[09:53] <czer323> timbooo> it's slow for me too, but you'll see. it's pretty damn simple.
[09:53] <bjv> binary will work for syncing, i just used to be able to do it with refreshing the service
[09:53] <holycow_> Daniel0, mv is the best way to do that actually, rename is cryptic to use
[09:54] <tomlikestorock> frogzoo: in my xorg.conf... it's ok to have two "Screen" sections, right?
[09:54] <Daniel0> ok thanks
[09:54] <Hoxzer_> ok thx .9
[09:55] <Frogzoo> tomlikestorock: have you installed xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[09:55] <tomlikestorock> guess I'll know in a second.
[09:55] <timbooo> I DONT SEE ANY CHANGES!
[09:56] <czer323> lol
[09:56] <czer323> timbooo> alright, here's the descriptoin.
[09:56] <bina> Hi, I'm trying to use encfs but I get permission denied when I try to use fusermount.  How to I allow my user to use fusermount (sudo... works)?
[09:57] <neutrinomass> bjv:  /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate
[09:57] <czer323> timbooo> added # infront of every line but the first 2 lines.
[09:57] <DShepherd> so no one knows about my error?
[09:57] <tomlikestorock> holy sweet christ.
[09:57] <tomlikestorock> holy sweet used car salesman christ
[09:58] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, so reading helped i take it?
[09:58] <Frogzoo> lol
[09:58] <tomlikestorock> I... did... nothing.. different...?
[09:58] <bjv> neutrinomass: supercool-beans. thankyou. :)
[09:58] <holycow_> DShepherd, that doesnt actually give us enough information to even guess why itsnot loading up
[09:58] <holycow_> :/
[09:59] <Steff_breezy> Hi, I ordered an AMD 64 3200 CPU and a new board, do I have to use the 64 Bit version of ubuntu, or can I install my normal breezy cd again?
[09:59] <neutrinomass> bjv: You're welcome :)
[09:59] <bjv> neutrinomass: so that's where i moved too.
[09:59] <timbooo> Ok
[09:59] <timbooo> Even the blank lines?
[09:59] <bjv> no
[09:59] <bjv> i used the same hard drive i had my 32bit ubuntu on in a new machine
[09:59] <dli> DShepherd, check you ~/.xsession-errorsr
[09:59] <DShepherd> holycow_: that's all i know..  i suspect its something with xsession.. but that's as far as my knowledge goess.. and google hasnt been nice...
[09:59] <holycow_> Steff_breezy, you can use 32 bit, infact, it might be best to use 32 bit fror now, we gotta wait for things like 64 bit flash and other 64 bit media support
[09:59] <holycow_> !64bit
[09:59] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[09:59] <Frogzoo> Steff_breezy: no, the 686 kernel will run fine, and running 32 bit is actually better supported, I'd recommend it
[09:59] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[09:59] <bjv> x86_64 cpus can run 32bit code native
[10:00] <alth> Hey guys, I'm running Java 1.4.2, having problems with Frostwire etc, was told to update my Java. What's the quickest way to do that? (I believe my Java was installed by Automatix.)
[10:00] <alth> [/noob question] 
[10:00] <neutrinomass> Steff_breezy: Yes you can. You won't take advantage of the 64bits of your  architecture but that wont be much of a problem, considering that x86 is more stable than amd-64 ...
[10:00] <czer323> timbooo> no, that's not necessary.
[10:00] <timbooo> k
[10:00] <dli> DShepherd, some good ideas, apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop , or even reinstall the whole gnome, rm ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* first
[10:00] <timbooo> I did it
[10:00] <timbooo> Now do I save or what?
[10:00] <timbooo> What do I do with this
[10:00] <czer323> save it
[10:01] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:01] <czer323> and reboot
[10:01] <sneex> where can I find information about how to make my own Ubuntu LiveCD?
[10:01] <timbooo> Save it to where?
[10:01] <timbooo> And How? Terminal isnt giving me a file save
[10:01] <Steff_breezy> Frogzoo, holycow_ , neutrinomass : ok, thats fine. but I guess I have to do a reinstall after the board change?
[10:01] <timbooo> And i suspect that that isnt the way to save it
[10:01] <holycow_> Steff_breezy, no thats only on windows
[10:01] <Frogzoo> Steff_breezy: not if you are already running 32bit....
[10:01] <neutrinomass> Steff_breezy: AFAIK no, it won't be necessary ...
[10:01] <dli> sneex, take the official livecd, make your kernel image , initrd image, and squashfs
[10:01] <bjv> sneex: investigate maybe morphix..?
[10:02] <Steff_breezy> Frogzoo, holycow_ , neutrinomass : phantastic
[10:02] <holycow_> Steff_breezy, infact you can install linux on an hd, and put the hd in any machine and go.  you just haveto make sure its on the same ide channel, the kernel doesn't have support for channel changes (or is it grub)
[10:02] <dli> sneex, however, ubuntu livecd sucks, try knoppix, or make your own livecd in gentoo
[10:02] <czer323> timbooo> to be honest, i'm not familiar with the program you're using.  Nano.
[10:02] <sneex> thx
[10:02] <holycow_> Steff_breezy, what i do at work is preload a bunch of hd's, and when we switch an office over, i just take the hds with me, take the wincrap out, put in breezy an dpower up ... very few problems if any
[10:03] <Frogzoo> Steff_breezy: just be sure to keep you hard drives in the same positions & you'll be fine
[10:03] <czer323> Timbooo> so give me a minute while i figure it out real quick.
[10:03] <Knome> !troll
[10:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about troll
[10:03] <timbooo> I'm on terminal
[10:03] <neutrinomass> Frogzoo: I don't think the kernel minds, it's probably grub ...
[10:03] <DShepherd> dli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16258 <-- care to shed some light?
[10:03] <czer323> timbooo> that command opened the program nano inside of terminal.
[10:03] <Steff_breezy> then I just have to reinstall windows and manage to reinstall grub again, but I already have a howto for that  :)
[10:03] <Frogzoo> neutrinomass: if you move your hard disk, grub & /etc/fstab need to change is all
[10:03] <Azertyuuu> hey all, I want to run a Live CD, but Grub always interrupts (it starts earlier) , how can I change that ?
[10:03] <holycow_> Steff_breezy, correct
[10:04] <timbooo> ok
[10:04] <timbooo> Well let me know if you find how I save this
[10:04] <czer323> timbooo> alright, use ctrl-o to save and then whatever it asks is fine.
[10:04] <Frogzoo> Steff_breezy: if you keep your drive in the same location, I don't think you'll need to touch grub - it should just boot
[10:04] <neutrinomass> Frogzoo: Ahh, yes, we've got fstab too ... missed that .
[10:04] <timbooo> Yep
[10:04] <czer323> timbooo> it should tell you that it wrote x ammount of lines.
[10:04] <timbooo> it says Wrote 18 lines
[10:04] <tomlikestorock> frogzoo, holycow: thanks for reminding me to reread
[10:04] <timbooo> yep
[10:04] <tomlikestorock> er, rereread
[10:05] <czer323> timbooo> alright, reboot.
[10:05] <timbooo> k
[10:05] <dli> DShepherd, reinstall gdm
[10:05] <holycow_> tomlikestorock, thats about 99% of the tech support in here actually
[10:05] <holycow_> :)
[10:05] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:05] <timbooo> Lol i keep grabbing my mouse for my pc and moving it to the right looking at my laptop screen
[10:05] <timbooo> WHY WONT YOU MOVE
[10:05] <dli> DShepherd, don't forget to remove ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome*
[10:05] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:05] <Steff_breezy> Frogzoo, ok, but win xp will overwrite grub, will it not?
[10:05] <alth> I've done that a lot, timbooo  :P
[10:05] <timbooo> hehe
[10:05] <Frogzoo> Steff_breezy: indeed it will
[10:05] <tomlikestorock> holycow: I just felt like I'd read every single faq, howto and wiki on the damned thing. Thought I was becoming an expert on this. heh.
[10:06] <ompaul> !grub
[10:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <tomlikestorock> holycow: regarding the ati thing, that is
[10:06] <ompaul> Steff_breezy, ^^ up a couple of lines to ubotu
[10:06] <biberao> hi
[10:06] <tomlikestorock> ok, how 'bout this one: how do I get tv-out?
[10:06] <Steff_breezy> ompaul, thx !
[10:06] <biberao> may someone help me with DHCP server?
[10:06] <czer323> timbooo> lack of coffee or sleep deprivation would cause that.
[10:07] <timbooo> lol
[10:07] <timbooo> I have been awake since noon
[10:07] <Steff_breezy> besides, what does that mean? ^^  ??
[10:07] <tomlikestorock> !ati
[10:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:07] <czer323> Yeah, i woke up around 4pm. lol.
[10:07] <timbooo> Do you all know if linux uses less battery life on laptops than windows?
[10:07] <timbooo> Cause that would be nice
[10:07] <ompaul> Steff_breezy, ^^ look up a line or two
[10:07] <biberao> please anyone?
[10:07] <Knome> timboo: I've read that it does
[10:08] <holycow_> timbooo, no difference but you need to setup cpu frequncy scaling to get optimum power saving.  google it up.
[10:08] <czer323> timbooo> Well, the answer lies in how much processing power does linux require to do the same tasks that windows takes.
[10:08] <timbooo> Hm
[10:08] <neutrinomass> Does anybody know how to use 'nn' ? (I think I have a patch for one of its bugs but can't test it myself ... )
[10:08] <celestetorres> hola
[10:08] <Steff_breezy> ompaul, hm? I mean, what is the meaning of this "^^"?
[10:08] <ompaul> Steff_breezy, ^^ = look up a line or two
[10:09] <Steff_breezy> ompaul, ah, i see!!
[10:09] <Steff_breezy> ok, thanks all! have a nice day
[10:09] <timbooo> czer323: I have good news
[10:09] <timbooo> I'm seeing signal bars
[10:09] <Azertyuuu> !bios
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about bios
[10:10] <Azertyuuu> !mbr
[10:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:10] <timbooo> You fucking solved my problem
[10:10] <ttongfly_> !korea
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about korea
[10:10] <Znortfl> Hey, I have some problems with installing the NVIDIA drivers on my Ubuntu Breezy system, anybody could help me there?
[10:10] <holycow_> !nvidia
[10:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <holycow_> Znortfl, what is the problem
[10:10] <biberao> pls help!!
[10:10] <czer323> timbooo> nice.
[10:10] <ttongfly_> !openvpn
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about openvpn
[10:10] <czer323> timbooo> i'm just glad it worked, cause we spent a lot of time on it.
[10:10] <Steff_breezy> !wine
[10:10] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more information.
[10:11] <Steff_breezy> bye, cu
[10:11] <Znortfl> holycow_: I enter runlevel 1 to install the driver, it asks if im sure, because it needs runlevel 3
[10:11] <timbooo> Yeah,  I'm a lot more glad than you are I'm sure
[10:11] <killaz> if I start a service where in the logs can I check for problems and errors?
[10:11] <timbooo> Thanks for the help
[10:11] <jasonm> Can anyone help me out with installing packages... i keep getting the message that package does not have installation candidate.
[10:11] <Znortfl> holycow_: but when I enter runlevel 3, it starts up gdm
[10:11] <timbooo> I have some questions about linux, mind if I ask before I go to bed?
[10:11] <holycow_> Znortfl, why are you doing that?
[10:11] <holycow_> !nvidia
[10:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:11] <holycow_> just follow those instructions
[10:12] <dli> jasonm, go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for your package, you can search in synaptic or apt-cache (apt-file)
[10:12] <Znortfl> holycow_: It asks for a lower runlevel, so I give the lower runlevel. Well I'll try that howto and then see. thanks
[10:12] <holycow_> naw, just do it in the terminal
[10:12] <czer323> timbooo> you can try.  you'll have to forgive me if i can't answer any of them.  To be perfectly honest, i'm going on week 2 of using ubuntu and linux. lol ;)
[10:12] <holycow_> then restart xserver or do /etc/ini.d/gdm restart
[10:12] <holycow_> thats all
[10:12] <hangfire> isnt easyubuntu a good way for installing graphic drivers?
[10:12] <timbooo> No, they're really basic
[10:12] <timbooo> Just general questions
[10:12] <hangfire> ok
[10:12] <czer323> i cna try
[10:12] <grodius> What tool do I use to make a source file into a pkg?
[10:12] <tomlikestorock> holycow: you know where I can find info on how to get tv-out on this thing?
[10:12] <tomlikestorock> !tv
[10:12] <timbooo> Like, what are the benefits of using linux?
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about tv
[10:12] <tomlikestorock> !tv-out
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about tv-out
[10:13] <timbooo> Am I still going to be able to use all my media files like DVDs and everything
[10:13] <czer323> timbooo> loooooool, only thing i've found is that updates are quicker and it's free.  A bit more versatile... or so they say.
[10:13] <alth> Ok, I'm trying to install a new version of Java, my previous version was installed by Automatix, how do I remove it?
[10:13] <holycow_> tv out on ati? not sure, i use a hauppage card for that sor tof thing ... don't have an answer for that sorry
[10:13] <timbooo> Yeah, and pretty much everything is free
[10:13] <czer323> czer323> i've not been using it long enough to even find replacements for all the software i'm used to using.
[10:13] <timbooo> all the programs
[10:14] <dli> grodius, for your own use or for a public repository?
[10:14] <czer323> timbooo> I mean, honestly... At times, I feel like i've taken my productivity down because i'm constantly troubleshooting.  sure, i knwo it's going to make me better with linux,  but... should i really have to learn the computer to get a job done?
[10:14] <holycow_> alth, if you installed anything with automatix, i strongly suggest biting the bullet and installing ubuntu.  then never again using the following letters in this sequence for anything: a.u.t.o.m.a.t.i.x
[10:14] <DShepherd> dli: thanks that worked.
[10:14] <dli> grodius, for your own use, you may try checkinstall
[10:14] <holycow_> you have been a bad boy
[10:14] <holycow_> lol
[10:14] <timbooo> Yeah
[10:15] <czer323> timbooo> on a side note, i do technical support for apple computers and people call in all the time and say, I know nothing about my computer, but I'm a photoshop graphics designer and have been using it for 10 years.
[10:15] <holycow_> czer323, well, should you really haveto learn to drive a car before you drive?
[10:15] <bina> Hi, I'm trying to use encfs but I get permission denied when I try to use fusermount.  How to I allow my user to use fusermount (sudo... works)?
[10:15] <dli> DShepherd, okay, any idea how it messed up? whom to blame? yourself or ubuntu?
[10:15] <holycow_> czer323, i mean, afterall, you just buy one get some keys and go, right?
[10:15] <timbooo> Hehe
[10:15] <DShepherd> dli: no me..
[10:15] <timbooo> Is there an equivilant to photoshop on linux?
[10:15] <killaz> timbooo, gimp
[10:15] <czer323> holycow_> your analogy is flawed.  Should i learn about how a car works internally and become a mechanic, before i start driving.
[10:15] <holycow_> gimp
[10:15] <holycow_> its awesome
[10:15] <watson540> tomlikestorock: do you mean tv tuner out? or tv out as in to your tv?
[10:15] <holycow_> czer323, no its not flawed
[10:16] <holycow_> if you want to know how to do something with a tool you haveto learn how to use the tool
[10:16] <dli> DShepherd, okay, I heard the dapper release is a shame of debian nowadays
[10:16] <holycow_> being a mechanic is analogous to being a programmer
[10:16] <holycow_> learning to drive is analogous to learning how to operate a system
[10:16] <czer323> holycow_> troubleshooting is like being a mechanic.  being an engineer who designed the engine is like being a programmer.
[10:16] <alth> holycow_: Yes, I know, but I've spent a week getting Ubuntu to work perfectly and I'd rather not reinstall ;) Any /useful/ advice for the problem at hand? I'm not planning on using Automatix again.
[10:16] <Killuminati> Umm
[10:16] <czer323> holycow+a driver is like a regular user
[10:16] <holycow_> czer323, nope, wrong
[10:16] <Killuminati> My firefox won't work
[10:17] <holycow_> czer323, well see if you want to take that attitude thats fine
[10:17] <holycow_> czer323, but do yo usee where that got windows users?
[10:17] <DShepherd> dli: I have another error though,  I am not sure if you can assist me,, its about the power manager not being able to start until the dbus session service is started. know how i can get the dbus to start
[10:17] <dli> Killuminati, elaborate?
[10:17] <Killuminati> dli, I just updated it and it's broken =/
[10:17] <holycow_> czer323, if yo ufeel being a complete idiot all your life is okay, thats fine, i'm cool.  people will pay me to fix their muck ups one way or th eother
[10:17] <dli> DShepherd, /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[10:17] <Killuminati> My internet is obviously not at fault because I'm here.
[10:17] <czer323> holycow_, I'm a computer user man.  i do windows, linux and mac. ;)
[10:17] <holycow_> but in reality you only have two choices, learn to use your tool or pay someone who already learned to use them
[10:17] <ompaul> czer323, if that were the case then I would not like you to "try to fix my car" I give my car to people who fix cars, anyway this is offtopic and there is a channel for that
[10:17] <holycow_> there is  no other way
[10:17] <Znortfl> holycow_: The nvidia version listed in the repository is older than the version listed on the nvidia site
[10:17] <dli> DShepherd, double check with update-rc.d
[10:17] <metusine> anyone know how to get tora going with mysql?
[10:18] <JPT> Hey, how do I get my resolution higher than 1024x768?  I just got Ubuntu 6.06 installed...
[10:18] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:18] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <timbooo> Thanks for your help czer, i'm sure ill be back
[10:18] <holycow_> czer323, i do too, but thats a mac and windows attitude, and its a terrible thing to have on all platforms
[10:18] <Killuminati> Anybody mind helping?
[10:18] <holycow_> czer323, the thing is if you have the basic skills for the platform, there isn't troubleshooting to do
[10:18] <alth> So. Aside from Holycow's advice to reinstall ubuntu, does anyone know how I can remove my Java? :)
[10:18] <farous> Killuminati: can you restate your prov
[10:18] <farous> prob
[10:18] <dli> !tell JPT about fixres
[10:18] <Killuminati> I recieve responses when I ping servers
[10:18] <DShepherd> dli: there seems to be 2 of them.. one under share.. on under sbin. does it matter ?
[10:18] <Killuminati> farous, Firefox will not load any webpages.
[10:18] <holycow_> czer323, the only troubleshooting we do in this channel for example is the same as for windows users, we tell them what they should already know, over and over and over and over and over again
[10:19] <holycow_> btw, i do that with mac users too
[10:19] <czer323> holycow_, tell that to everyone who just installed ubuntu and can't get it to work right.  tell them that they should already know how to fix it.
[10:19] <Killuminati> Oh, nevermind
[10:19] <Killuminati> Sorry to bother you all
[10:19] <farous> Killuminati: is it only firefox
[10:19] <holycow_> czer323, well i'm not attacking you, i'm sorry if i sound like that
[10:19] <dli> DShepherd, update-rc.d is a tool to manage init scripts, update-rc.d --help or man update-rc.d
[10:19] <Killuminati> I must have accidentally put on a proxy
[10:19] <farous> did you try other web browsers
[10:19] <Killuminati> I just checked and I was using a proxy
[10:19] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:19] <Killuminati> Again, Sorry to bother you =(
[10:19] <holycow_> czer323, i don't want you to think defensively, its just my humble opinion
[10:19] <farous> Killuminati: ok :)
[10:20] <holycow_> czer323, but the fact is simple, you take this channel and take every single question
[10:20] <holycow_> 99% of them are the same
[10:20] <Killuminati> Um
[10:20] <holycow_> czer323, my humble opinion is that you can take this channel and turn it into a basic system admin course for users
[10:20] <Killuminati> Does anybody know if unrealircd is compatible with ubuntu?
[10:20] <holycow_> and teach them how to use a system
[10:20] <holycow_> teach them how to install it, maintain it, and trouble shoot all the basics
[10:20] <holycow_> beyond that they hire people like us right?
[10:21] <JPT> Where can I get the ATI Linux drivers?
[10:21] <holycow_> so does a user need to know how to trouble shoot and use a system? yes, the question is do they haveto be a system administrator, well no
[10:21] <JPT> x.x
[10:21] <dli> DShepherd, I suddenly realized that dbus should be started by default ( if you are using ubuntu-desktop)
[10:21] <dli> !tell JPT about ati
[10:22] <czer323> holycow_, Our opinions really clash though.  I understand the teaching, but that's teaching to be a mechanic.  Troubleshooting is analogous to a mechanic.  A user is just a driver.  They can use a computer for 10 years and still call me and say, I can't get my internet working.  It happens everyday, because a computer is just a tool used for them to do their job.  I definately understand the benefit, but 90% of the computer user po
[10:22] <czer323> pulation is going to disagree with you.
[10:22] <JPT> Thanks
[10:22] <holycow_> czer323, infact i've often thought of starting up a tech support company based around education.  you start them off with a simple intro, and bit by bit work them towards system admin as they are comfortable
[10:22] <holycow_> they can either sign up for classes and fix the problem them selves
[10:22] <holycow_> or they can pay me to do it
[10:22] <holycow_> either way they win
[10:22] <DShepherd> dli: thats what the error message told me
[10:23] <holycow_> czer323, its not teaching to be a mechanic
[10:23] <holycow_> czer323, how can you say that?
[10:23] <DShepherd> dli: know how i can get it back that way?
[10:23] <holycow_> you can't drive a car without proper training
[10:23] <holycow_> czer323, infact i bet you and i agree
[10:23] <holycow_> for example
[10:23] <DShepherd> dli: I am so learning alot about linux.. its kinda fun.. just a little
[10:23] <Flannel> holycow_, czer323, not to put a lid on this coversation, but can you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[10:23] <neutrinomass> Anybody that can use 'nn' (newsgroup reader) on an empty NNTP server ?
[10:23] <dli> DShepherd, update-rc.d -f dbus defaults
[10:23] <czer323> holycow_, let's take this at least to a private chat, but secondly, i'm sure you and i aren't goint o agree.
[10:24] <holycow_> czer323, would you not say that people should actually get more training behind a wheel?  wouldn't it be better if we had degrees of training including safety and reflexive driving lessons as mandatory part of a licence?
[10:24] <DShepherd> dli: System startup links for /etc/init.d/dbus already exist. <-- is that a good thing?
[10:24] <dli> DShepherd, or reinstall the dbus package simply
[10:24] <alth> Ok, still can't figure out how to remove Automatix-installed Java.
[10:24] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:24] <holycow_> czer323, then what talk, you will forever expect users to remain idiots i will forever expect users to live up to their full human potential
[10:24] <dli> DShepherd, it should be, that's what I said, "by default"
[10:24] <Killuminati> Um
[10:24] <Killuminati> What's the equivelant of ./config in ubuntu?
[10:25] <DShepherd> ok
[10:25] <DShepherd> dli: brb
[10:25] <dsas> Killuminati: What are you trying to do?
[10:25] <Killuminati> dsas, Install an application
[10:25] <Madeye> guys is there a command like Touch but create file with a content text?
[10:26] <dsas> Killuminati: First thing to do is to try to install it in the repositories. If it's not there then you do ./configure && make && checkinstall
[10:26] <JPT> in "$(uname -r)" do I replace uname with my ubuntu username?
[10:26] <Flannel> Madeye: pipe the content into a file
[10:26] <dli> Madeye, echo "blah" > foo
[10:26] <dsas> JPT: No, just run it as is. uname -r just gives your linux version
[10:26] <JPT> Sorry complete Ubuntu n00b here :P
[10:27] <JPT> ok
[10:27] <arno> Hello, I need help with vmware serveur. When install it i get : "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected." What should I do. I actually uninstalled vmplayer before...
[10:27] <dsas> JPT: Don't worry it's fine.
[10:27] <dli> JPT, uname is a general unix command, " man uname " tells more
[10:27] <alth> Goddamnit, Automatix installed a version of Java that I cannot get rid of :\
[10:27] <holycow_> alth, you can ...
[10:27] <Killuminati> dsas, Didn't work
[10:27] <holycow_> alth, you just need to find a list of all the java files adn their paths
[10:27] <Flannel> alth: #automatix for automatix support
[10:27] <holycow_> dsas, and delete those, then its gone
[10:27] <Killuminati> You might want to run ./Config or provide some parameters to this script
[10:28] <holycow_> dsas, search up what automatix did and where and just delete and your good
[10:28] <tiagoboldt> alth: use easyubuntu
[10:28] <alth> Flannel: A channel with 7 users, you think they'll help me? :P
[10:28] <dsas> holycow_: ??? I've never used automatix
[10:28] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[10:28] <Chousuke> alth: this channel doesn't support automatix :/
[10:28] <alth> tiagoboldt: I don't need to use any scripts at the moment, I'm just trying to upgrade my Java ;)
[10:28] <holycow_> dsas, my appologies, bad tabbing :)
[10:28] <Flannel> alth: they should.
[10:28] <Madeye> Flannel, echo "ffmpeg -i $1 -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500  -s 320x240 $1.mpg" > Flv2Mpg.sh  ignoring the $1 is there anyway to escape it >?
[10:28] <shadeofgrey> could anyone please just take a minute and visit a website of mine...  i need to test the total user visits counter code i just added
[10:28] <dsas> Killuminati: Do you have a Config file in that directory?
[10:29] <Killuminati> dsas, Yeah
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> anybody with  a spare 5 seconds please just hit up www.thetruthdirective.com ---
[10:29] <dli> shadeofgrey, that's nothing to do with #ubuntu
[10:29] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: give us the URL so we can Slashdot you ;)
[10:29] <Flannel> !tell arno about vmware
[10:29] <hwt> how can i use vlan interfaces (8021q) in ubuntu?
[10:29] <dsas> Killuminati: What output do you get if you type ./Config ?
[10:29] <shadeofgrey> whats slashdotyting someone imply?
[10:29] <Killuminati> dsas, lol I didn't capilatize it
[10:29] <Killuminati> Stupid of me
[10:29] <thoreauputic> dli: I think it's OK to ask us to test it
[10:29] <Killuminati> Sorry to bother you... Again
[10:29] <dsas> Killuminati: :) no problem. Good luck.
[10:30] <JPT> Is there a shortcut to switch between workspaces?
[10:30] <arno> I really need some help
[10:30] <thoreauputic> JPT: ctrl-alt-arrow
[10:30] <dli> thoreauputic, no, I don't want to click any god-knows-what link
[10:30] <thoreauputic> dli: then don't
[10:30] <Flannel> arno: read that page, it'll get you all setup
[10:30] <czer323> slashdot is a popular website.  to have everyone visit you is refered to as slashdotting.
[10:30] <JPT> Awesome thanks :D
[10:31] <thoreauputic> dli: shadeofgrey has been around for a while - I don't think he's a black hat :)
[10:31] <arno> Flannel : which page?
[10:31] <Flannel> arno: the link ubotu sent you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:31] <dli> thoreauputic, okay then
[10:31] <Chousuke> I wonder what kind of hardware Slashdot runs on
[10:31] <Chousuke> since slashdot is never slashdotted :P
[10:32] <dsas> Chousuke: It used to be in the faq. Maybe it still is.
[10:32] <DShepherd> dli: reinstalling dbus didnt work..
[10:32] <DShepherd> dli: you think reinstall gnome-power-manger will?
[10:32] <dli> DShepherd, read dmesg or /var/log/syslog, figure out why? I think gnome-power-manager itself is not stable enough yet
[10:32] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:33] <T`2> hey guys.. anyone recommend a good way to backup? i'm sending my laptop for repair tomorrow.. so have to backup the 100GB hdd.. i have a 250GB usb drive..
[10:33] <Killuminati> wtf?
[10:33] <JPT> Alright, thanks for the help! I will most likely be back! muahahahaha
[10:33] <Killuminati> Does anybody have experience with UnrealIRCD?
[10:33] <dli> DShepherd, you may have to wait for the next release of ubuntu, but you can try and figure it out
[10:33] <alth> #automatix is dead. Have to get rid of this java :(
[10:34] <arno> Flannel it still doesn't help with the failure
[10:34] <DShepherd> dli: ok
[10:34] <holycow_> T`2, well, just backup /home ... its all you really need
[10:34] <holycow_> you can just drop back your personal dir after reinstall if thats what is going to happen
[10:34] <dsas> alth: This channel doesn't support automatix. Maybe visiting the automatix forum on ubuntuforums.org will help.
[10:34] <Killuminati> Can anyone help me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16259
[10:35] <dsas> Killuminati: you need to install build-essential
[10:35] <alth> dsas: It
[10:35] <alth> Er.
[10:35] <Killuminati> dsas, Thankyou as always =P
[10:36] <alth> dsas: It's not really an Automatix problem, it's a Java problem. I have a 'Java 1.4' entry in my Beagle search for Java, I just don't know how to remove it. It might not actually have been installed by Automatix, apparently Automatix is meant to install the 1.5 JRE.
[10:36] <holycow_> alth, which part of 'find what files are in the java package, find them and delete them' is a mystery?
[10:37] <imbrandon> alth: sudo apt-get --purge remove j2se1.4
[10:37] <Killuminati> alth, http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000011600.xml
[10:37] <Killuminati> lol
[10:37] <holycow_> alth, i really want to help, but if you cant figure out how to find the files and delete them, there is no hope for you
[10:37] <psyoptik> I am trying to make the ra2670 nightly tarball driver for my ralink usb wireless adapter, and when I try to "make" it, I get the error "no rule to make target 'modules'. Stop". I have compiled the linux source in the /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build directory. any help?
[10:37] <Killuminati> imbrandon's way is faster and smarter
[10:38] <T`2> holycow_, yea, but i'm thinking of doing a full hdd image backup.. like dd if=/dev/hda1 ...
[10:38] <alth> So, holycow_, are you so rude to everyone struggling with a problem? ^_^  I didn't see you see that, I'm sorry.
[10:38] <dli> psyoptik, sounds like a makefile error, try another source version
[10:38] <T`2> holycow_, any downside to that? i can always loop mount i guess..
[10:38] <holycow_> Killuminati, he used automatix aptget doesn't work, automatix bypases that,you know that right?
[10:38] <const_cast> i just updated from breezy to drapper and now i have some problems with evolution: the folder view dissapeared
[10:38] <const_cast> any idea what i could do to get it back?
[10:38] <Killuminati> hollywoodstar, Nope =(
[10:38] <holycow_> T`2, dd is overkill and takes forever, just copy paste /home its all you need
[10:39] <Killuminati> Me = Linux noob
[10:39] <dli> T`2, then " dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/path/to/file "
[10:39] <JPT> Is there a way to get my Windows copy of Battlefield 2 to run in Ubuntu?
[10:39] <holycow_> Killuminati, oh c'mon :) lol
[10:39] <holycow_> Killuminati, i didn't mean that
[10:39] <T`2> alright.. thanks guys
[10:39] <holycow_> hehe
[10:39] <Killuminati> JPT, Um Wine and Cedega?
[10:39] <holycow_> :)
[10:39] <imbrandon> JPT, check with the cedega project
[10:39] <Killuminati> holycow_, I was joking =P
[10:39] <holycow_> ehe just makin sure :)
[10:40] <JPT> Alright :D Sorry first time using Ubuntu :P
[10:40] <dli> T`2, for 100GB, takes about 3 hrs
[10:40] <pekuja> Is it possible to install Ubuntu over the network?
[10:40] <imbrandon> JPT, cedega lets you play newr windows games on linux
[10:40] <imbrandon> pekuja, yes
[10:40] <Killuminati> JPT, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=2424
[10:40] <pekuja> imbrandon, without a CD?
[10:40] <dli> T`2, boot a livecd, don't do that on a mount partition (/dev/hda1)
[10:40] <pekuja> imbrandon, I mean with a network boot
[10:40] <mattyv> hey ppl, using breezy still, none of my usb storage devices auto mount anymore, i can do it manually but if i go to Places > computer and click on the drive it comes up with a pmount error about wrong fs-type, dmesg gives lots of errors on not recognising fs type, not ready to go dapper just yet
[10:41] <imbrandon> pekuja, yea if you bootstrap the installer
[10:41] <Killuminati> JPT, I think this would be more helpful ( http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3618 )
[10:41] <pekuja> imbrandon, has the procedure been documented somewhere?
[10:41] <holycow_> mattyv, thas a known issue on breezy ... there is no fix ... they decided to fix it in dapper
[10:41] <alth> Ahahaha!
[10:41] <imbrandon> pekuja, probbly not for ubuntu but it will be the same as debian
[10:41] <alth> I'm an /idiot/.
[10:41] <mattyv> really, because it used to work
[10:42] <holycow_> mattyv, *nod* i don't know the specifics, i wasn't happy with breezy as i ran into that a bit
[10:42] <pekuja> imbrandon, hmn, ok
[10:42] <Flannel> pekuja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:42] <DShepherd> dli: I think  I may need to reinstall dbus-1-utils. what say thee?
[10:42] <psyoptik> I tried a newer tarball and same error occures
[10:42] <jamison> hi all.. how is ubuntu this nice day?
[10:42] <mattyv> oh well, thanx, nearly finished the assignments so i might back up /home and upgrade anyway
[10:42] <Flannel> pekuja: pick the non-CD method that fits what you have (under advanced installation methods)
[10:43] <dli> DShepherd, as I said, you have to play, but gnome-power-manager is not stable itself the time being
[10:43] <DShepherd> dli: brb
[10:43] <DShepherd> dli: kool
[10:43] <jamison> anyone know a bit about LDAP install issues?
[10:43] <arn1> can anyone help me??
[10:43] <psyoptik> I am trying to make the ra2670 nightly tarball driver for my ralink usb wireless adapter, and when I try to "make" it, I get the error "no rule to make target 'modules'. Stop". I have compiled the linux source in the /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build directory. Is there anything else that could be wrong except the makefile?
[10:43] <gsuveg> what is the irda port ? ttyS1 maybe ? i need sync my palm, and usbserial module is dead
[10:43] <imbrandon> pekuja, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[10:44] <imbrandon> psyoptik, that a question you will have to ask the maintainers of the nightly tarball for the ra driver
[10:45] <imbrandon> !helpme
[10:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:45] <T`2> dli, damn! 3hrs!!
[10:45] <Hoxzer_> is it save to put ubuntu machine to the freezer?
[10:45] <holycow_> Hoxzer_, lol, what does that mean?
[10:45] <dsas> Hoxzer_: As long as it's waterproofed, then probably.
[10:45] <dli> T`2, just a rough guess for 100GB
[10:45] <pekuja> Flannel, imbrandon, ok, thanks
[10:45] <Hoxzer_> :) k
[10:46] <Gasolin_> Hello, Need your Help, I edit $sudo visudo, now everytime ran sudo command get error. Any recovery mothod?
[10:46] <T`2> dli, unfortunately dont have a liveCD here.. gotta download one which is able to detect the usb drive
[10:46] <dsas> Gasolin_: If you had sudo access you could purge sudo and then reinstall it :)
[10:46] <imbrandon> Gasolin_, boot into recovery mode, you will get a root prompt you can edit the visudo file again
[10:47] <dsas> Gasolin_: Maybe you can do that if you use recovery mode.
[10:47] <dli> T`2, every livecd should do usb also, anyone should work
[10:47] <Gasolin_> Thanks, VIVA recovery mode:D
[10:47] <Gasolin_> thank you all
[10:47] <imbrandon> np
[10:47] <dli> T`2, if you got only 20GB, no point to copy 100GB though
[10:48] <grodius> how do you use check install?
[10:49] <dli> grodius, you do " checkinstall " instead of " make install"
[10:49] <Hoxzer_> what does check install do?
[10:49] <grodius> dli yeah but i guess a better question would be how do you make install to begin with
[10:50] <jasmuz> Hey all!
[10:50] <arn1> ???
[10:50] <jasmuz> Greatings from Spain :D
[10:50] <Hoxzer_> ???
[10:50] <holycow_> jasmuz, hola :)
[10:50] <Hoxzer_> ??? spain is hot place this time of year
[10:50] <jasmuz> holycow_, saludos!
[10:50] <Hoxzer_>  have u burned your self?
[10:50] <jasmuz> Hoxzer_, not for me, im from the caribbean
[10:51] <Hoxzer_> jasmuz: LOL caribbeans dont use irc
[10:51] <Hoxzer_> they only chill in the sun
[10:51] <alth> Can we keep it on topic fellas? #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat.
[10:51] <robert_> is there some sort of automated system I can use which sorts my POP3 mail into the appropriate IMAP folders on my ubuntu server's imap email server?
[10:51] <jasmuz> Hoxzer_, hahaha... we have sun all year.
[10:51] <dxdemetriou> Is there a way to upgrade a firmware on cdrom in Linux?
[10:51] <jasmuz> alth, sorry
[10:52] <jasmuz> dxdemetriou, firmware for a CDROM drive?
[10:52] <Hoxzer_> jasmuz: so u chill whole year?
[10:52] <alth> Hey, don't apologise to me, jasmuz, just mentioning it ;)
[10:52] <ardchoille> dxdemetriou: why would you need to do that?
[10:53] <Coraxyn> Morning
[10:53] <ardchoille> Coraxyn: morning
[10:53] <jasmuz> Coraxyn, hey
[10:53] <Coraxyn> :)
[10:53] <jasonm> morning
[10:53] <dxdemetriou> I have a dvdrom that can't read some dvds, and it has new firmware, but I don't know how I make the upgrade
[10:54] <noiesmo> dxdemetriou, there is firmware upgrade for dvd player I did mine it fixed some issues with certain dvd's but did it in windows youd have to check with drive manufacturer for there firmware upgrade options
[10:54] <farous> dxdemetriou: are they encrypted dvds
[10:54] <holycow_> dxdemetriou, that has nothing to do with your firmware
[10:54] <noiesmo> farous, no blanks have issues
[10:54] <ardchoille> dxdemetriou: what do you mean by "read"? Are you getting an "encryption" error?
[10:54] <JPT> When I try to install Wine I get this error:
[10:54] <JPT> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[10:54] <holycow_> as farous says they are encryptied and your libdvdcss cannot decrypt them
[10:54] <dxdemetriou> No, are dvds that I burn myself
[10:54] <JPT> x.x
[10:54] <noiesmo> dxdemetriou, i know what you mean
[10:54] <holycow_> dxdemetriou, that would still not have anything to do with the firmware
[10:55] <JPT> HOLY CRAP! WHERE DID THE TIME GO?!?! IT'S 3AM!!! o.o
[10:55] <noiesmo> dxdemetriou, i had to upgrade my dvd thru windows
[10:55] <ardchoille> dxdemetriou: if you burned them in Linux, I say it was a bad burn
[10:55] <jasonm> im still having package problems, ive found the packages i need on packages.ubuntu.com, but when i try to download from the terminal or SPM they are not found...
[10:55] <Coraxyn> New at this OS.  Copied over iTunes directory to this partition.  Tried in IMPORT folder with Rythmbox.  No joy.  Any hints?
[10:55] <tobias_> I want to install the new nvidia driver, but the driver in the repo is older than the one on the nvidia site. How do I install the one on the nvidia site?
[10:55] <farous> jasonm: enable the extra repos
[10:55] <jasmuz> jasonm, did you update before downloading?
[10:55] <farous> !info repositories
[10:55] <ubotu> Package repositories does not exist in dapper
[10:55] <alth> Coraxyn: Got your MP3 codecs installed?
[10:55] <dli> jasonm, double check your sources.list
[10:55] <farous> !repositories
[10:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[10:56] <Coraxyn> Alth, DOH!
[10:56] <holycow_> tobias_, strongly suggest using the dapper repos only, if yhou install using nvidia installer, uninstalling can be laborious should you either need to remove them, or screw something up
[10:56] <alth> Coraxyn: Is that a 'Doh, yes, of course!', or a 'Doh, no, how silly of me!'?
[10:56] <nicolas_faf> Can anyone send me the font 'Courrier' in 'fonts:///' ?
[10:57] <jasonm> farous, how do i enable extra repos?
[10:57] <Coraxyn> Alth, yes :)   Where can one find this mysterious codec?
[10:57] <jasonm> jasmuz, yes
[10:57] <farous> jasonm: look at ubotu post this will tell you how
[10:57] <Coraxyn> Alth, libgmp3 is installed
[10:57] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[10:57] <noiesmo> Coraxyn, enable multiverse and universe and add libxine-extracodecs
[10:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:57] <jnoon> is there a command line util to set networks setup like ip address, netmask etc? i dont have x/gnome etc
[10:58] <noiesmo> jnoon, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:58] <alth> Go to the restricted formats page, Coraxyn. You'll need something like...is it w32codecs for MP3? It slips my mind, anyway.
[10:58] <farous> jnoon: ifconfig
[10:58] <alth> But it's all on there ;)
[10:59] <dxdemetriou> Is not that the problem, I used the Nerolinux and are checked. The truth is that I wan't to use windows, and I try to find ways, for example how can I upgrade any firmware from bin files
[10:59] <jasonm> dli, what do you mean??
[10:59] <jnoon> noiesmo, farous, thanks, excellent.
[10:59] <jasmuz> Nerolinux, yuck :P
[10:59] <jasonm> i know this is supposed to be something very simple,,,, i dont understand why this isnt working
[10:59] <holycow_> dxdemetriou, have you tried k3b or gnome baker?
[10:59] <redblades> Umm... Hi, I just installed 3ddesktop, and for some reason, it said glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[11:00] <jasmuz> holycow_, Gnomebaker is FOOL PROOF
[11:00] <holycow_> dxdemetriou, i don't understand what you mean 'i want to use windows' either ... why don't use you it then?
[11:00] <jasmuz> redblades, do you have your hardware acceleration enabled?
[11:00] <YoussefAssad> < jasmuz> holycow_, Gnomebaker is FOOL PROOF   <---- Famous last words...
[11:00] <jasmuz> hahaha
[11:00] <redblades> jasmuz, I'm not sure I understand
[11:00] <YoussefAssad> :)
[11:00] <holycow_> YoussefAssad, heh
[11:01] <dli> jasonm, ask ubotu about easysource
[11:01] <jasmuz> redblades, in order to use 3Ddesktop you must have a compatible video system, as it uses high FPS (Frames Per Seccond)
[11:01] <redblades> jasmuz, ???
[11:01] <redblades> So?
[11:01] <ii> yeah
[11:01] <ii> http://www.linuxiso.org/
[11:01] <dxdemetriou> holycow_, anyway, I'll make some search to know exactly what to ask. Thanks all for help :)
[11:01] <jasmuz> !3d
[11:01] <ii> CAN I GET LINUX FROM HERE
[11:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about 3d
[11:02] <redblades> ii yes!
[11:02] <T`2> ii, no
[11:02] <ii> were
[11:02] <T`2> ii, its on the website
[11:02] <holycow_> dxdemetriou, ehe okay
[11:02] <YoussefAssad> ii: you say that like linux is some transmitted disease.
[11:02] <redblades> T`2 I think that's what he meanas
[11:02] <YoussefAssad> "Hello, can I get gonorrhea here?"
[11:02] <redblades> HEHEHE
[11:02] <jasmuz> ahahaah
[11:03] <squiggly> Are you really a raghead, YoussefAssad? Or is that a joke
[11:03] <alth> I think we all need testing for Linux then.
[11:03] <redblades> jasmuz, Is there no way to enable this?
[11:03] <alth> squiggly, watch your racism dude.
[11:03] <YoussefAssad> squiggly: what's a raghead?
[11:03] <noiesmo> redblades, what video card you got
[11:03] <jasmuz> redblades, yes...all depending on your Video card...
[11:03] <Killuminati> Um
[11:03] <redblades> Uhhh... I forgot
[11:03] <Killuminati> Can anyone help me?
[11:03] <Killuminati> =(
[11:03] <squiggly> judging by the whois, i guess you are
[11:03] <YoussefAssad> squiggly: I'm half Arab, if that's what you're asking, yes.
[11:03] <redblades> How do I check?
[11:03] <Killuminati> YoussefAssad, I thought you were Chinese by your nick.
[11:04] <jasmuz> redblades, lspci should e a good start
[11:04] <YoussefAssad> Killuminati: lived there for a couple of years, that's about as Chinese as I can claim to be :)
[11:04] <redblades> Sorry, I forgot
[11:04] <noiesmo> redblades, type lspci in terminal will list cards in on system
[11:04] <redblades> Yeah I know, I just forgot the command
[11:04] <Killuminati> YoussefAssad, lol I'm half Persian but I was born in Australia
[11:04] <Killuminati> Funny how things are =)
[11:05] <redblades> nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] 
[11:05] <YoussefAssad> Killuminati: a Fellow member of the Mutts Intl. Club :)
[11:05] <jasmuz> Im Dominican (Mixed Spanish, French and African)
[11:05] <Killuminati> lol
[11:05] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell redblades about nvidia
[11:05] <Killuminati> Nice to meet everyone, All 793 of you =P
[11:05] <Pjott> Hey all!
[11:05] <jasmuz> redblades,  you must check to see if it works with the Nvidia propietary driver
[11:05] <mattyv> aussie aussie aussie, oi, oi, oi
[11:06] <Pjott> I've got SERIOUS problems... In my mind, and with Ubuntu
[11:06] <Killuminati> Let's win the world cup!
[11:06] <alth> Fat chance.
[11:06] <Pjott> The "vga=771" thingy
[11:06] <mattyv> we're doin better than usual :)
[11:06] <Killuminati> I know but it's a chance nonetheless
[11:06] <Killuminati> =P
[11:06] <jasmuz> !nvidia
[11:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:06] <Pjott> Should I put that in "Other Options (F6)" When I have the CD insterted ?
[11:06] <YoussefAssad> anyhow, back to work (now that I appear to have found a mutt bug!). squiggly, I'm sorry for your "raghead" remark, but I have no hard feelings.
[11:07] <holycow_> Pjott, ignore that and just hit enter and keep on going
[11:07] <andi_> yahui
[11:07] <dli> !tell jasonm about easysource
[11:07] <Pjott> ...
[11:07] <andi_> halo
[11:07] <Killuminati> ./unreal: line 10: /home/irwin/Unreal32/src/ircd: is a directory
[11:07] <Killuminati> But I have that directory
[11:07] <Pjott> I've instled Ubuntu, but when bootng, I only get a black screen
[11:07] <Killuminati> Does anybody know it's significance?
[11:07] <andi_> greeting to The sport
[11:07] <Killuminati> Pjott, There might be a problem with grub.
[11:07] <holycow_> Pjott, do you see a login line on that black screen?
[11:07] <andi_> I want to stop
[11:08] <Pjott> Then my monitor goes "INVALID SCAN FREQ." - Hitachi CM823F 21" CRT Monitor, that is
[11:08] <andi_> see u bybye
[11:08] <mattyv> Pjott, what sort of vid card
[11:08] <dsas> Killuminati: You may be better getting help by going to the Unreal IRCd channel
[11:08] <Pjott> Killuminati: Might be
[11:08] <Pjott> holycow_: No, can't see that
[11:08] <holycow_> ah Pjott  you have the wrong refresh rates for your xserver
[11:08] <Pjott> that's the problem
[11:08] <Pjott> ah
[11:08] <Pjott> yes, heard about that
[11:08] <Pjott> Tell meeee ;D;D
[11:08] <ardchoille> Be back later :)
[11:08] <Killuminati> dsas, Do you know where that is? =P
[11:08] <holycow_> you need to login in recovery mode and fix that /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:08] <dsas> Killuminati: Not an idea, maybe it says on their homepage or something.
[11:09] <holycow_> !recovery
[11:09] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[11:09] <blackline> I want my desklet (OsX clock) to always be on top, anyone knows how? Found this in code, something there? <display window-flags="sticky, below">
[11:09] <Killuminati> Pjott, When you get the error, Ctrl+Alt F1 to get to a console screen, login and try:
[11:09] <holycow_> try that
[11:09] <Killuminati> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:09] <holycow_> or you can boot into live cd and change that file manually
[11:09] <Azertyuuu> hey all, does anyone know a command to remove everything of VMWare Workstation ?
[11:09] <holycow_> or do as Killuminati suggests
[11:10] <Pjott> But what should I do then?
[11:10] <Killuminati> Sorry if my help isn't very helpful
[11:10] <Pjott> What should I put it to?
[11:10] <Pjott> <-- NOOB
[11:10] <Killuminati> Um you can try mine or holycow_'s method.
[11:10] <Killuminati> Both should work
[11:11] <mattyv> sounds like u hav a decent monitor, look in the manual for its specs on refresh & sync if u can
[11:11] <holycow_> Pjott, sounds lik eyou need someone to help you by holding your hand a bit ... thats okay, but i don't have time to do this now i'm sorry
[11:11] <holycow_> :/
[11:11] <holycow_> stick around maybe someone can run you through it
[11:11] <alth> Grr. Ok, I removed Java 1.4, apt-get installed sun-j2re1.5, and now java -version is saying that /usr/bin/java doesn't exist, and it's not working in firefox!
[11:12] <farous> alth: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:12] <farous> Pjott: restate your prob
[11:12] <Azertyuuu> alth:  javaRE1.5 had some serious bugs I remember
[11:13] <neutrinomass> Is it possible to configure the packages to be installed through the alternate CD ? (for the desktop or server distro )
[11:13] <usuario> ola
[11:13] <alth> Azertyuuu: I was having major problems with Frostwire with 1.4, a Frostwire developer told me to get 1.5.
[11:13] <alth> farous: What now? 3 options.
[11:13] <usuario> no ablo en jngles
[11:13] <Flannel> !es
[11:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:13] <farous> alth: choose the one you want
[11:13] <Yonda> I have a PC thats connected to a network via a standard network card. everytime i reboot, I have to re-enable the card...How can I stop it from doing this!
[11:13] <Pjott> Mafakkas :P
[11:14] <Pjott> d hette pakkar bare drit i
[11:14] <Killuminati> To anybody I might help in the future, I've only been using Ubuntu for a few days to please forgive me if I'm not helpful
[11:14] <farous> yonda do yo9u know the module name of your card
[11:14] <Pjott> mhm
[11:14] <Pjott> nai
[11:14] <alth> Hey, Farous, guess that worked! You rock man. Thanks.
[11:14] <Coraxyn> Joy :)  THanks :)
[11:14] <farous> :)
[11:14] <jasonm> /usr/bin/apt-get: /usr/bin/apt-get: cannot execute binary file
[11:14] <jasonm> thats what i get
[11:14] <BIAF> hi, how to i apt-get SSL
[11:14] <jasonm> i dont understand
[11:15] <Pjott> 77438_-_+\435435\\fe++fd f+ds ctrl v7mf
[11:15] <Pjott> thats it my father's Aftername
[11:15] <Pjott> hade
[11:16] <farous> BIAF: ssh client is installed by default. ssh server is openssh-server package search using synaptic and install it
[11:16] <dsas> BIAF: SSL for what?
[11:16] <Yonda> farous, eth0?
[11:16] <BIAF> thx
[11:16] <Pseudonym> Ok... I just ran into somewhat of a bad problem, fixed it luckily, but I wanna know about possible prevantative measures...
[11:16] <alth> Hmm, farous - java -version is now returning the correct information, but Firefox isn't working.
[11:16] <neutrinomass> Is it possible to configure the packages to be installed through the alternate CD ? (for the desktop or server distro )
[11:16] <farous> Yonda: i asked for your card what type of card
[11:16] <dsas> ah, SSL isn't SSH
[11:16] <BIAF> Im installing ISPConfig, and half way throug, it says it cant openSSL
[11:16] <farous> alth: install the java plugin package
[11:16] <alth> "additional plugins are required to display the media on the page" etc.
[11:17] <farous> BIAF: oh sorry i misread your post
[11:17] <alth> Righto farous.
[11:17] <dsas> BIAF: you probably want openssl
[11:17] <BIAF> nps
[11:17] <Harold_P> ChanServ thinks I'm stupid.
[11:17] <Harold_P> :(
[11:17] <dsas> BIAF: or libssl should I say
[11:17] <Hobbsee> Harold_P: why so?
[11:17] <dsas> BIAF: It depends what the program is trying to do with it. There's lots of ssl packages for different things.
[11:18] <Harold_P> It told me to read the rules! >:o
[11:18] <BIAF> Im installing ISPConfig
[11:18] <Yonda> farous, A dlink dfe-528tx
[11:18] <Pseudonym> My /boot/ partition is relatively small, and fills up quickly I guess... resulting in my computer almost being rendered unusable when I tried to boot, because apparently, the last kernals were not able to be installed correctly because there was not enough space... I somehow though that ubuntu automatically pruned back old kernals that weren't needed anymore in 5.10... is this true, and if so, why does it not do this on Dapper?
[11:18] <jasmuz> Does anyone know about medical programs ported from Debian-med to Ubuntu?
[11:18] <BIAF> ERROR : Could not make OpenSSL
[11:18] <redblades> Oh dear'
[11:18] <holycow_> Pseudonym, its not true, there isno pruning of anything
[11:18] <alth> Hey, thanks again Farous, it works fine now :D
[11:19] <mattyv> Pjott, i think i can help u now, as somebody suggested u need to boot into recovery mode and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i can help with wat to put in then
[11:19] <psyoptik> I am still having problems installing the ralink module. Everytime I make I get a "no rule to make target 'modules'. Stop." I have trying everything to creating a symbolic link to the kernel source and using make-kpkg modules_image" to editing the makefile. any help?
[11:19] <Pseudonym> Ok, that was just what it seemed...
[11:19] <holycow_> new kernels are considered new packages, thus you haveto remove old kernels
[11:19] <redblades> I followed the instructions on the binarydrivers site
[11:19] <redblades> And I lost X
[11:19] <Pseudonym> But then... what should I do with obsolete kernals, and how can I make sure I don't accidently delete something super critical?
[11:19] <redblades> I'm really worried
[11:19] <holycow_> new kernels dont replace old kernels as too much can go wrong, this isn't windows afterall and flexibility is prized ... so yeah you haveto remove krenels your slef
[11:19] <redblades> I can't get X to work!
[11:19] <holycow_> Pseudonym, sudo apt-get remove --purge kernelpackage after you verified new one works
[11:20] <Pseudonym> Can I see the obsolete kernals in synaptic?
[11:20] <farous> Yonda: oh that is easier it is nto a wireless card ok
[11:20] <holycow_> Pseudonym, yep
[11:20] <Pseudonym> Should I see it under base system?
[11:20] <farous> Yonda: open the file, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:20] <Yonda> farous, just the old fashioned corded variety ;)
[11:20] <holycow_> Pseudonym,  ... just search them in synaptic actually :)
[11:20] <holycow_> i forget where they are
[11:21] <farous> Yonda: at the end type auto eth0
[11:21] <psyoptik> I am still having problems installing the ralink module. Everytime I make I get a "no rule to make target 'modules'. Stop." I have trying everything to creating a symbolic link to the kernel source and using make-kpkg modules_image" to editing the makefile. any help?
[11:21] <redblades> Please, I'm really lost
[11:21] <farous> Yonda: those are the best suppoerted by liunx:)
[11:21] <Flannel> farous, Yonda: gksudo gedit
[11:21] <redblades> I can't get x working, and it says that their is no xorg installed!
[11:22] <mattyv> i g2g but if somebody wants to help Pjott edit his xorg.conf, his monitor values are "Hitachi, Ltd.; Hitachi CM823F; HTCB3F7; 31.0-121.0; 50.0-160.0"
[11:22] <farous> Flannel: !! enlighten me why is that better then sudo
[11:22] <DShepherd> dli: i found a little.. hack.. it works for now.. thanks for everything..
[11:22] <dsas> farous: Security reasons.
[11:22] <Flannel> farous: sudo screws up some graphical things, gksudo does not.  it's technical, having to do with root folders, and stuff.
[11:22] <redblades> ANYONE? I'm entirely unable to get X working
[11:23] <redblades> I have absolutley no idea what to do.
[11:23] <farous> Flannel: ok thanx will remember that :)
[11:23] <psyoptik> does no one know anything about the make error "no rule to make target 'modules'. Stop."?
[11:23] <Flannel> farous: so yeah, any graphical program, use gksudo instead of sudo.
[11:24] <farous> Flannel: will do that
[11:24] <visik7> hi
[11:24] <Pseudonym> So, assuming the current 686 kernal works... keeping one older backup kernal should be fine right?
[11:24] <dsas> psyoptik: It could be a dodgy makefile, or the makefile. IIRC that means that part of the makefile says "jump to the modules bit", when there is no modules bit.
[11:24] <dsas> Pseudonym: Keeping one known good kernel is fine yes.
[11:25] <visik7> I've apt-get source kernel-image-2.6.15-25-686 and after appling a patch I run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot but it took a huge amount of time 'couse it compile for all x86 supported arch 386 686 k7 etc... is there a way to compile only 686 ?
[11:25] <nigue> hello
[11:25] <redblades> I've edited xorg.conf to say "nv" "vesa" "nvidia" none of them work
[11:25] <Pseudonym> Ok then, I thank you very much for your help guys. Have a good evening/day/morning, relative to wherever you guys are.
[11:25] <DShepherd> is the nv driver the 3D accelerated open source driver? or nvidia?
[11:26] <redblades> nv
[11:26] <visik7> nv driver aren't 3d accelerated
[11:26] <dsas> visik7: Yes, you need to find out about debian/control or debian/rules (can't remember which)
[11:26] <visik7> only 2d
[11:26] <redblades> Well, I tried to get the nvidia-glx 3d one, and now I have no X
[11:26] <dsas> visik7: Try the debian policy manual, or the new  maintainers guide.
[11:26] <redblades> I have no display at all
[11:27] <redblades> Will somebody help?
[11:27] <DShepherd> redblades: nv you say.. thanks
[11:28] <redblades> visik7, do you have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[11:28] <tomlikestorock> hey again... I've got tv out, but videos don't display on the tv. what gives? (ati, btw)
[11:28] <redblades> I even tried to reinstall xorg, and it says it can't find it!
[11:29] <finalbeta> I'm having problems using ndiswrapper on a wpc54g, getting SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown file or folder when I want to start the interface. I have no wireless encryption enabled yet.
[11:30] <someothernick> which package gives you "root-nautilus-here"?
[11:30] <redblades> Wait, what is the name of the package?
[11:30] <redblades> xserver-xorg-something?
[11:30] <jnoon> i cant get djbdns to install via apt... is this a known issue? i get: Package djbdns is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:31] <holycow_> jnoon, its not an issue, its just installed by another packe and is probably depricated
[11:31] <Ng> jnoon: the only related package I can see is: "djbdns-installer - Source only package for building djbdns"
[11:32] <holycow_> apt-cache search djbdns should give yo ua list of alternatives
[11:32] <alth> someothernick: I think that's a script, is it not?
[11:32] <jnoon> ok ill check that out
[11:32] <jasmuz> redblades, xserver-xorg
[11:32] <someothernick> alth, yes
[11:32] <alth> So would it be in a package?
[11:33] <someothernick> that was my question
[11:33] <tomlikestorock> anyone? anyone know how to get videos to display through tv-out?
[11:33] <mgut> hello all. a quick noob question. how do i find out which /dev/ entry is used by my infrared port. i know its working because multisync connects to it but it doesnt sync phonebook. so i try gscmxx, but obviously the default (/dev/ttyS0) is not the right one. any suggestions?
[11:34] <alth> Hmm, booting into Windows to give more partition space to Ubuntu ^_^
[11:37] <sp1d3r_> anyone use mldonkey here?
[11:37] <tomlikestorock> !tvout
[11:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about tvout
[11:38] <sp1d3r_> I want to know why the maximum number of server connections is limited to 4 server at same time
[11:38] <squiggly> thats just the default sp1d3r_
[11:39] <redblades> Well, I got it sorted
[11:39] <redblades> THYOUVERYMUCH
[11:40] <redblades> Only joking
[11:41] <mgut> anyone? irda = /dev/??
[11:41] <Hoxzer_> why irda?
[11:41] <gsuveg> mgut: depend on your hardware
[11:41] <Hoxzer_> what makes irda so special?
[11:41] <gsuveg> ttyS0 or S1 or so
[11:43] <bigfoot1> i want to compress files. should i use tar.gz or gz?
[11:44] <Killuminati> bigfoot1, It won't make much of a difference
[11:44] <T`2> bigfoot1, tar provides you organization
[11:44] <T`2> bigfoot1, gz doesn't have a directory structure, etc..
[11:44] <BIAF> how do i get RPM installed
[11:45] <Flannel> !tell BIAF about alien
[11:45] <bigfoot1> i want to compress a directory and its subdirecotries. It's got html files, and others. I want to keep the directory structure and save file space (read: i want to compress).
[11:45] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: how can you say that?
[11:45] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:46] <bigfoot1> in windows, i can choose the compression level. how about on ubuntu/ linux?
[11:46] <holycow_> bigfoot1, right click and create archive maybe?
[11:46] <bigfoot1> holycow_: yes, that's what i'm doing.
[11:46] <bigfoot1> but it doesn't ask me how much compression i want
[11:47] <bigfoot1> in winzip (on windows) i can set the compression level
[11:47] <holycow_> why would you want that?
[11:47] <holycow_> its stupid, just zip it up and expect the max compression
[11:47] <lasindi> Hi all, if I want a program to run everytime my Ubuntu machine starts up, is there a configuration file that I add the command to in Ubuntu? (I know that on Slackware, I can do this in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, for example.)
[11:47] <holycow_> why would you need 50% compression? does that make sense or is it even usefull?
[11:48] <Killuminati> bigfoot1, http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/libs/liblzo1
[11:48] <Flannel> holycow_: no.  it's not stupid.  gzip is set to 6 by default (of 9), you can set it as a command line argument, bigfoot1
[11:48] <weedar> When using apt-get I get the following error - Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8118 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[11:49] <Flannel> holycow_: you save processor/memory usage by compressing less
[11:49] <holycow_> Flannel, lol that is the most idiotic option i've ever seen
[11:49] <weedar> But I have no repository in my sources.list that refers to localhost in any way - Any ideas?
[11:49] <holycow_> oh well, then it is possible :)
[11:49] <Killuminati> weedar, Try doing; sudo aptitude install <package name>
[11:49] <bigfoot1> so if  i do the the archiving via Nautilusu (right click) what is the compression level?
[11:49] <Flannel> bigfoot1: probably 6, I don't know.  I don't have a GUI.  It runs archive manager though, right?  you can probably check the options in that.
[11:50] <Killuminati> holycow_, Don't be rude in the future.
[11:50] <bigfoot1> Flannel: weird. i chose "tar.gz" as the extension. The directory is 690mb uncompressed. in the tar.gz, it's about the same.
[11:50] <bigfoot1> how come
[11:50] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:50] <holycow_> Killuminati, stop being a child, there was nothing rude in any of my statement
[11:50] <bigfoot1> i expected the html files to be highly compressible
[11:50] <weedar> Killuminati: I still get the error, but at least one of the necessary packages got installed. I guess my repositories are down atm
[11:51] <dsas> There aren't any compression options in archive-manager any more iirc
[11:51] <innerworld> hello friends, someone know which tutorial should I follow to get Xgl running in Ubuntu64 + ATI 9600 Card?
[11:51] <redblades> Well, that didn't go at all well
[11:51] <Flannel> bigfoot1: they are compressable.  I think you imght be reading wrong. or something.
[11:51] <Killuminati> weedar, Can you pastebin your sources.list?
[11:51] <Flannel> innerworld: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related support
[11:51] <Hoxzer_> bigfoot1: why not just make a rar archieve with unrar
[11:52] <Killuminati> holycow_, Last time I checked calling a comment stupid was rude.
[11:52] <innerworld> thx Flannel gonna insist there... (not many answers there)
[11:52] <holycow_> Killuminati, *sigh*
[11:52] <holycow_> here we go, bizzaro land again
[11:52] <Flannel> innerworld: XGL isn't officially supported by ubuntu.  But, the topic in that room should link you places.
[11:52] <dsas> !tell innerworld about xgl
[11:52] <weedar> Killuminati: http://pastebin.ca/68967
[11:52] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: holycow_ was saying that the option to have a midlevel compression level was not really necessary
[11:53] <Killuminati> I do realise that but saying a statement is stupid is rude.
[11:53] <Killuminati> I won't argue though =/
[11:53] <sp1d3r_> anyone know why mldonkey is connected at most with 4 network at same time?
[11:53] <holycow_> Killuminati, wow man, you are one strange person
[11:53] <Killuminati> holycow_, Coming from you =P
[11:54] <holycow_> *blink*
[11:54] <holycow_> welcomecome to my ignore list
[11:54] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: i don't think he said your comment was stupid
[11:54] <Killuminati> weedar, Can you tell me the error you get when you try using apt-get
[11:54] <Arafangion> nested screen sessions make for _quite_ the dance...
[11:54] <Killuminati> bigfoot1, I know he didn't.
[11:54] <Killuminati> holycow_, I was joking =/
[11:54] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: you were joking? i didn't know that
[11:55] <Killuminati> bigfoot1, I was joking about him being strange.
[11:55] <Killuminati> lol
[11:55] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: i don't know whether he was joking
[11:56] <weedar> Killuminati: the error is Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8118 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[11:56] <Killuminati> Hm
[11:56] <BIAF> getting error installing webmin '/bin/sh is nneded by webmin-1.280-1.noarch' & '/usr/bin/perl is nneded by webmin-1.280-1.noarch' any ideas?
[11:56] <bigfoot1> oh, the 680 mb directory is compressed now to  219mb. i realized that the archiving was step one. Only after it's done, will the comrpession happen
[11:56] <bigfoot1> i should have waited for it all to finish
[11:57] <nige_> is anyone by chance with iinet.net.au as an isp":
[11:57] <holycow_> correct biggie
[11:57] <Killuminati> nige_, Why do you ask?
[11:57] <bigfoot1> can anyone confirm what compression level is set for "file roller"
[11:57] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:57] <Killuminati> weedar, Please wait a minute
[11:57] <bigfoot1> coz if it doesn't give me the max compression, i'll compress in some other way (maybe cli).
[11:57] <nige_> Killuminati, becuase i am wondering why all of a sudden my port forwarding has stopped
[11:58] <nige_> i am wondering if iinet has stoped dynamic dns names
[11:58] <avis> how do you access file roller from gnome in dapper drake ubuntu gnome ?
[11:58] <kdean06> I set a root password because I dislike sudo. Since then, none of my System -> Administrative menu options load beyon "Starting Administrative Application". Is this "normal", is it a bug, or just an inconcenient side effect?
[11:58] <bigfoot1> avis: easy
[11:58] <Killuminati> nige_, I think you should be going on whirlpool.net
[11:58] <nige_> i am there now :)
[11:58] <bigfoot1> avis: select some files, then right click, select "create archive"
[11:58] <avis> most excellent.  the gods will be pleased.
[11:58] <Killuminati> nige_, are you using a router?
[11:58] <Killuminati> weedar, I don't know sorry =(
[11:59] <avis> thank you bigfoot1
[11:59] <bigfoot1> avis: or select a file that file roller makes (tar.gz, tar, zip, etc)
[11:59] <Killuminati> What's the package you are trying to get?
[11:59] <weedar> Killuminati: oh well, thanks for trying at least :)
[11:59] <bigfoot1> avis: welcome
[11:59] <nige_> Killuminati, I was using a wrt54g now using an ipcop box
[11:59] <weedar> But this is a very weird error, if I use firefox I am able to download the file "manually", but if I try to use wget I get the same error
[11:59] <Killuminati> nige_, Have you forwarded your ports on that?
[11:59] <sp1d3r_> what is T status in ps command?
[11:59] <sikamedia> are there some applications for harddisk encryption with ubuntu?
[11:59] <weedar> It is almost like apt-get and wget try to use a proxy on this machine
[12:00] <nige_> i believe soo
[12:00] <Killuminati> weedar, What was the package you were trying to get?
[12:00] <weedar> Killuminati: subversion
[12:00] <nige_> i have setup portforwarding on the ip copy box
[12:00] <nige_> :)
[12:00] <nige_> Killuminati, try sshing into nige.gotdns.com
[12:00] <weedar> but as I said, I don't think the package or repository itself is the problem, but somehow that apt-get and wget is trying to use privoxy or similar
[12:00] <avis> sikdamedia i once read an article where ubuntu provided encryption for external usb hard drives
[12:01] <Killuminati> nige_, Either your on slow internet or I'm getting anywhere soon =P
[12:01] <bigfoot1> how do i compress a directory's contents (filse and subdirectories) via commandline using Max compression?
[12:01] <nige_> hmm
[12:01] <nige_> shouldnt be slow
[12:02] <nige_> testing speed now
[12:02] <sp1d3r_> In ps command what is T status for a process
[12:02] <sp1d3r_> ?
[12:02] <nige_> Killuminati, my download speed is: 1.35Mbps
[12:03] <Killuminati> nige_, Your upstream is important here.
[12:03] <nige_> yep, checking that too
[12:03] <nige_> :)
[12:04] <dsas> bigfoot1: tar -cfz compressedname.tar.gz foldername/
[12:04] <dsas> bigfoot1: From the top of my head so it may not be 100% right
[12:04] <nige_> apprently its : 0.22 Mbps
[12:04] <nige_> thats kinda sad
[12:04] <bigfoot1> dsas: is there a way it can use the original folder name?
[12:04] <Michael___> Helllllo all
[12:04] <dsas> bigfoot1: tar -cfz foldername.tar.gz foldername/ ?
[12:04] <Killuminati> Hey Michael___
[12:05] <Killuminati> nige_, Even at that speed I should be able to connect instantly
[12:05] <Killuminati> I think you haven't forwarded your ports correctly
[12:05] <nige_> hmm
[12:05] <nige_> thats what i am thinking
[12:05] <nige_> something is really odd
[12:05] <nige_> i am concerned about it
[12:06] <Killuminati> nige_, Why do you need SSH?
[12:06] <Killuminati> Is it for a local network?
[12:06] <nige_> becuase when I am at work, I often ssh into the home box to test settings on the work site
[12:06] <Killuminati> Oh
[12:06] <Killuminati> Hmm
[12:06] <nige_> i also like to beable to use a remote desktop so I can so people how to do things from external
[12:07] <sp1d3r_> how can I delete all process in ps list with T status ?
[12:07] <larsemil> my dapper turns the display blank after 10 min of idle. allthough all the values are correct in the gui's for screensaver and energysaving...
[12:07] <bigfoot1> guys, is bzip as safe as gzip? i mean, no greater risk of file corruption, etc?
[12:07] <Killuminati> gzip = better.
[12:08] <dsas> bzip will just give you better compression.
[12:08] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: no risk of file corruption, lost data?
[12:08] <Killuminati> bigfoot1, Miniscule.
[12:08] <Killuminati> nige_, I'll try connecting again.
[12:08] <bigfoot1> Killuminati: how is gzip better
[12:08] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:08] <nige_> Killuminati, okay
[12:09] <Killuminati> It's supported well
[12:09] <Killuminati> I doubt you'll ever have any problems with it.
[12:10] <larsemil> anyone has an idea of how to turn the "screen blankening" thing off in dapper?
[12:11] <bigfoot1> so gzip is better but bzip can cormpress better, Killuminati, yes?
[12:11] <Killuminati> bigfoot1, Yes. I'm pretty sure bzip has a better compression rate.
[12:12] <Killuminati> nige_, lol I forgot your host/ip
[12:12] <nige_> nige.gotdns.com
[12:12] <r3nd3r> is the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu only the window manager ?
[12:13] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: and a few apps, yes.
[12:13] <holycow_> and desktop environment too
[12:13] <Killuminati> I still can't connect
[12:13] <BIAF> im getting a notice when installing webmin saying that 'the perl SSLeay library is not installed. SSL Not available, is that important? seems to be moving on through the install
[12:13] <r3nd3r> will it run all the latest pakages
[12:13] <apokryphos> yes
[12:13] <r3nd3r> ok thanks
[12:13] <r3nd3r> ill download it now
[12:13] <Killuminati> BIAD, No they aren't
[12:13] <BIAF> thx
[12:14] <nige_> okay
[12:14] <nige_> it seems its the forwarding
[12:14] <nige_> for some really odd reason....
[12:15] <Killuminati> nige_, Check how you configured it.
[12:15] <Killuminati> It might be some small fault
[12:15] <nige_> Killuminati, loooking through it now
[12:15] <nige_> :)
[12:15] <Killuminati> Good luck =)
[12:16] <nige_> cheers
[12:16] <tobias_> Maybe a bit offtopic, but are there any users in this channel that also have problems with ubuntu, wine and WoW 1.11 since yesterday?
[12:16] <scheuri> hi all
[12:17] <Killuminati> tobias_, Are you the only person having this problem?
[12:17] <Killuminati> scheuri, Hi =)
[12:17] <r3nd3r> which version of xfce does the latest xubuntu include ?
[12:17] <scheuri> hi Killuminati
[12:17] <apokryphos> !info xfce
[12:17] <ubotu> Package xfce does not exist in dapper
[12:17] <avis> ok here is a letterman stupid newbie question.  i of course have had new pages open in new tabs in firefox but i've never manually initiated my own tab for my own use.  someone help me then conk me on the head with a hammer.
[12:17] <apokryphos> !info xfce4
[12:17] <ubotu> xfce4: Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:17] <tobias_> Killuminati: WineHQ isnt sorted out yet, they dont know what exactly causes the error, but imho blizz fucked up the opengl mode of wine
[12:17] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: that version
[12:18] <Flannel> r3nd3r: 4.4b1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XubuntuDapperReleaseNotes
[12:18] <Killuminati> tobias_, If it's a widespread problem then I'm afraid I can't help
[12:19] <r3nd3r> sweeeet
[12:19] <tobias_> Killuminati, thanks ok, thanks though... trying with all patches and versions of wine I can find
[12:19] <scheuri> tobias_: you might also have a look at other channles here...winehq and such
[12:19] <_BlackBrokenWing> oddio...
[12:19] <tobias_> I did, they cant seem to help
[12:20] <_BlackBrokenWing> my god..
[12:20] <compengi> how can i make  nautilus-scrpits work
[12:20] <compengi> i have them bu i can't use them
[12:20] <r3nd3r> is xfce the fastest window manager out there ?
[12:20] <Killuminati> tobias_, Check http://transgaming.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=51
[12:20] <Flannel> r3nd3r: no.
[12:20] <r3nd3r> Flannel, what is ?
[12:20] <dsas> r3nd3r: You may want to try blackbox, fluxbox or whatever someone else will probably reccomend.
[12:21] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: it's quite a lightweight desktop environment
[12:21] <Killuminati> tobias_, I think I found how to get it working
[12:21] <tobias_> Killuminati: you did?
[12:21] <avis> is blackbox still in development ?
[12:21] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: xfce is better supported than other lightweight window managers
[12:21] <avis> how lightweight is xfce ?  or will my mileage vary ?
[12:22] <Killuminati> tobias_, http://www.mattbowen.net/blog/2006/06/21/world-of-patchcraft/
[12:22] <compengi> can any one help me
[12:22] <apokryphos> it varies, but it's more lightweight than gnome or kde
[12:22] <dsas> avis: What window manager isn't.
[12:22] <Killuminati> compengi, What's the problem?
[12:22] <compengi> can any one help me
[12:22] <compengi> how can i make  nautilus-scrpits work
[12:22] <compengi> how can i make  nautilus-scrpits work
[12:22] <apokryphos> !repeat
[12:22] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:22] <boulzor> If you love football go to /join #FootScore1,0 !!!!
[12:22] <compengi> i have them but i can't use them
[12:23] <avis> dsas, i'm not sure.  i kinda thought blackbox faded a long time ago.  of course thats when i was trying to run it on a mere p166 with limited ram and i could not run it myself
[12:23] <tobias_> Killuminati: Thanks... I'll now sit back and relax while this page loads, it's really slow
[12:23] <Killuminati> tobias_, Have fun on WoW =P
[12:23] <dsas> avis: I don't think it's been very actively maintained tbh. The pace of development amongst the *box WMs doesn't seem to be fast.
[12:24] <Killuminati> compengi, Can you please wait a minute?
[12:24] <tobias_> Killuminati: if your page works, that is ^^
[12:24] <compengi> sure
[12:24] <avis> ok
[12:24] <Killuminati> tobias_, It works. I just went to it.
[12:24] <avis> i'm going to apt-get xfce so i can use that along with gnome on my dapper drake.
[12:24] <BIAF> what is Usermin , just an area i passed in the Webmin panel, is it a must?
[12:24] <tobias_> Killuminati: it doesnt work as yet... still loading, bah, my patience isnt what it were since this patch ><
[12:24] <apokryphos> avis: recommended way to install is to get xubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <avis> assuming that gdm can handle the switching ?
[12:25] <apokryphos> it can
[12:25] <avis> ok
[12:25] <avis> thank you
[12:25] <Killuminati> tobias_, I can pm you it.
[12:25] <apokryphos> also, #xubuntu is available for xfce-related help
[12:25] <Killuminati> compengi, cripts are invoked by selecting a file or group of files, and right-clicking with the mouse, to bring up a 'Context' menu. One of the options of this menu is the 'Scripts' submenu, which allows you to select a script to invoke on the selected files.
[12:25] <tobias_> Killuminati: That'd be wonderful, however I cant respond cause I'm not registered on freenode
[12:25] <Killuminati> Time to pastebin then =P
[12:26] <apokryphos> tobias_: so register
[12:26] <apokryphos> !register
[12:26] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:26] <compengi> Killuminati,  but this is the problem when i right click on any folder i don't have a thing called script
[12:27] <Killuminati> compengi, Then you obviously didn't install it =P
[12:27] <someothernick> Killuminati, he doesn't have that option. all files are there and permissions are correct. but when he right clicks there is no option to select scripts
[12:27] <compengi> i had it
[12:27] <Killuminati> tobias
[12:28] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: I'm registered now, pm/pastebin on =D
[12:28] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16261
[12:28] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: thanks
[12:28] <compengi> in .gnome2 i have a folder called nautilus scrpits
[12:28] <Killuminati> No problem =)
[12:29] <compengi> with 3 scripts in it
[12:29] <Killuminati> compengi, You probably had an error whilst installing it
[12:29] <compengi> and how do i reinstall it?
[12:30] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: That guide would've helped, about 36 hours ago. The problem is not that I cant patch the game, I just can't play it, at least, the opengl mode wont let me to. I dont think this is in your reach, so I'll carry on
[12:31] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, Ah.
[12:32] <compengi> Killuminati, how do i reinstall it
[12:32] <Killuminati> compengi, Sorry I forgot about you
[12:32] <Killuminati> Do you know the package name?
[12:33] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32537#32537
[12:33] <compengi> your ok
[12:33] <sp1d3r_> how can I kill a process with T status in ps command?
[12:34] <Azertyuuu> hey all, how can I use Wifi in VMWare via my linux-wifi-connection ?
[12:34] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: Where should I add those lines?
[12:34] <weedar> Azertyuuu: if the wifi works in linux just set vmware to use bridged connection
[12:35] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, Your wine/xedega config
[12:35] <Killuminati> compengi, Do you know the pacakge name?
[12:35] <StAfZe6> hey
[12:35] <Azertyuuu> weedar: yes, it works
[12:36] <weedar> Azertyuuu: I know ;)
[12:36] <Azertyuuu> weedar: i mean, it works in linux
[12:36] <weedar> ah, sorry :D
[12:37] <scheuri> sp1d3r_: you can't kill it with ps, but you can find out its process ID (PID) to kill it with the "kill" command
[12:37] <weedar> Azertyuuu: but anyway, you can choose in vmware to let the virtual machine use bridged networking, which basically means that it uses the already working connection you have
[12:37] <Killuminati> compengi, get nautlius-scripts-manager
[12:37] <compengi> Killuminati, no i don't
[12:37] <nige_> can anyone give me a hand with ipcop and port forwarding?
[12:38] <compengi> Killuminati, from where
[12:38] <Azertyuuu> weedar: hmm, let's see
[12:38] <crodriguez> ola
[12:38] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: there is still some fun in here. We just caused the whole game to appear upside down xD
[12:38] <NET||abuse> i'm grepping a file... and i'm getting alot out.. i want to cut down on lines with Login | Logout in them
[12:38] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, But it worked?
[12:39] <weedar> Azertyuuu: let me know if it works, at least it did for me.
[12:39] <NET||abuse> cat logfile | grep accountname is my current command,, what do i do to reduce the junk coming out?
[12:39] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: A bit, with double desktop buffering off
[12:39] <Killuminati> compengi, System >> Administration >> Synaptic Package Managers
[12:39] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, So that's a step forward.
[12:39] <Killuminati> =P
[12:39] <weedar> [HHS] Dawnwater: suggested fix: turn monitor upside down
[12:40] <[HHS] Dawnwater> weedar: The game is upside down, sadly the buttons arent. Also my sound is fucked up and I cant click anything. Nice try tho ^^
[12:40] <Killuminati> Ok
[12:40] <Azertyuuu> weedar: I have set ethernet connection to "bridge", restarted , but no luck
[12:40] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: are you able to ping anything?
[12:41] <weedar> Azertyuuu: could you list the other alternatives to "bridge", maybe I am remebering the wrong one..?
[12:41] <weedar> If only I had vmware installed on this one I'd check myself
[12:42] <scheuri> weedar: Azertyuuu: brigded is what you want of your vm wants direct network access
[12:42] <Azertyuuu> I want that windows (guest), uses my linux wifi connection
[12:43] <weedar> scheuri: in that case I remembered right, but it is weird that it doesn't work for Azertyuuu
[12:43] <NET||abuse> does anyone else use pptpconfig at all... i'm having some issues gettin the vpn's it makes to work.. or is there a better tool?
[12:43] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: THAT however, means, that you should you either NAT or "localhost only" connection from guest to host and the host acts as router...
[12:43] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: I dont think there is a chance to emulate wifi for your guests
[12:44] <r3nd3r> hey ive already downloaded the latest ubuntu cd but havent installed it yet,  but ive now decided that i want Xfce. should i download xubuntu or is it fairly easy to install it on ubuntu ? how big is the xfce desktop package ?
[12:44] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: as hardware that is to use it themselves
[12:44] <NET||abuse> pptpconfig is setting routes to my remote network but only to the ip which i am assigned on the remote network ,, with netmask 255.255.255.255
[12:44] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: you can very easily install xubuntu from Ubuntu; you only need to install one package and it'll resolve all other depends.
[12:44] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, Do you get any errors?
[12:44] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: it wouldn't be too much, I'd imagine; xfce and gnome are GTK.
[12:44] <r3nd3r> apokryphos, but it needs to download all the depends as well right ?
[12:44] <apokryphos> yes
[12:44] <avis> dependencies, yes
[12:45] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: i'll give NAT a try
[12:45] <r3nd3r> then i think ill download the xubuntu cd
[12:45] <scheuri> r3nd3r: depending on what CD you have another windowmanager (KDE or GNOME) is installed...if you dont want that you need to deinstall it again
[12:45] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: it would be a *lot* less than downloading a whole 'nother CD though
[12:45] <jnoon> dunno if theres any dns experts around but im trying to run mydns (dns server) to make some domains resolve to local boxes, and i have dnscache (djbdns) working for external caching etc.  i would think theres a way to make dnscache first check the mydns server to see if that has a record for something internal, but cant figure out that part (ie, how they cooperate)
[12:45] <r3nd3r> oh no.. i want both gnome and xfce
[12:45] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: Yes, a badmatch if that says anything to you
[12:45] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: yeah, if you install xubuntu-desktop from gnome then you'll have it
[12:46] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: well...never tried that issue myself...therefore cant really help...I'd imagine that localhost might help as well...just tell windows that your hostsystem ist gateway...and then setup host to act as such
[12:46] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: if you plan on having them both, then there's no reason to download the other CD.
[12:46] <Killuminati> YES
[12:46] <scheuri> r3nd3r: then you are perfectly fine by installing it manually after installation of the CD...that is perfectly possible
[12:46] <Killuminati> FOUND A SOLUTION
[12:46] <r3nd3r> apokryphos, how can i find out the filesize of xubuntu-desktop packkage ?
[12:46] <r3nd3r> apokryphos, and if possible the dependencies ?
[12:47] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, Undo the thing I told you to do to your config.
[12:47] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: it's just a metapackage, you can't do that type of calculation
[12:47] <scheuri> r3nd3r: one way is...installing the CD and then use synaptic or other to find out
[12:47] <apokryphos> r3nd3r: ...unless ubuntu is already installed.
[12:47] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: I did, deleted the file
[12:47] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6269
[12:48] <ryanakca> would it be possible to install ubuntu with debian boot floppies? and then when you run /usr/sbin/base-config, just put in ubuntu repos instead of deb?<
[12:48] <Azertyuuu> weedar: yes, NAT works
[12:48] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: there is no such runonce.wtf
[12:48] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: it works !!! hahah thakns
[12:48] <Kayde> why is this room soooo quiet??!
[12:49] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: very welcome...what did you do??
[12:49] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, I think you might have to make it
[12:49] <weedar> Azertyuuu: Great! :)
[12:49] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: set to NAT and reboot
[12:49] <pvd2006> What is the shortcut in vi or vim to select all text in a file?
[12:49] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: ah, great...thanks...
[12:50] <dnel> what is the purpose of the bittorrent client running on the default ubuntu install?
[12:50] <thoreauputic> dnel: to help with sharing bandwidth for downloads?
[12:50] <thoreauputic> dnel: like ISO s etc
[12:50] <pvd2006> dnel, to download torrents
[12:51] <thoreauputic> pvd2006: and seed them  :)
[12:51] <pvd2006> hehe yeah
[12:51] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: no change, the game is as fucked up as it was before
[12:51] <thoreauputic> pvd2006: two way street
[12:51] <dnel> i dont remember it being mentioned anywhere that it seeds the downloads
[12:51] <dnel> could be a bit dodgy for someone who uses a capped ISP
[12:51] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: and will everything from Windows stored in linux too ?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> dnel: when you finish d/l s you leave it on
[12:51] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, I'm sure this is the solution
[12:51] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: you mean the guestsystem? or the date?
[12:51] <scheuri> data
[12:52] <pvd2006> you also upload data while downloading
[12:52] <Killuminati> "
[12:52] <Killuminati> One of those in there was causing the game to start up with just a black screen. Removing it allowed me to log in nromally. I was served a TOS and EULA, but never saw the Scanning bit. Perhaps there's some incompatability. "
[12:52] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati, how come you're so sure
[12:52] <thoreauputic> dnel: if you don't, you become only a leech, rather than a contributor :)
[12:52] <Killuminati> I think it's in your WoW folder
[12:52] <dnel> thoreauputic: yeh i know, but that should be down to the user to leave a 1:1 download ratio, does this torrent seed stop once it reaches 1:1?
[12:53] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati, it is, now I created it as you said
[12:53] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, I suggest you look around
[12:53] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: e.g. if i download something in windows (via vmware), can i save them on my linux partition than ?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> dnel: not as far as I know - but of course you can turn it off
[12:53] <Killuminati> I'm pretty sure that will be your solution
[12:53] <r3nd3r> the xfce installer package from the official website is 20 MB
[12:53] <Killuminati> Hey thoreauputic =)
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Killuminati: hey :)
[12:53] <r3nd3r> so i recon that the xubuntu desktop package shouldnt be more than.. 100 mb ?
[12:53] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: only if there is a network drive attached in windows pointing to your host...
[12:54] <mnk> hello all - i have a problem with ntfs-fuse [i know it is dangerous] . i followed this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&page=4&highlight=ntfs+rw and i can now read and write to my ntfs partition fine - except that i cannot delete any file that was created b4 with windows. it just says: No such file or directory when i try to delete it
[12:54] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: it is not recommended to mount linux-partitions in guest systems and using them with the host same time
[12:54] <void^> dnel: eh, are you sure there's a bt client doing anything? i did notice a bt tracker service.
[12:54] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: best is, you make samba with host and then add the network drive in windows (guest=
[12:54] <Killuminati> mnk, I HIGHLY suggest you don't try that.
[12:54] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: but since your host is only a huge file on your hosts harddrive...it is stored...:)
[12:55] <Killuminati> It can corrupt your windows partition
[12:55] <mnk> Killuminati: how likely is it?
[12:55] <dnel> void^: thats what i mean, what is it for?
[12:55] <Azertyuuu> and can i print in my guest system ?
[12:55] <avis> yeah.. i wouldn't trust read/write to ntfs
[12:55] <void^> dnel: it's just a tracker. without any configuration i'd assume it just sits there doing nothing at all.
[12:55] <mnk> yeah but what solution is there? i need to delete loads of files and i really don't want to boot into windows
[12:55] <Killuminati> mnk, I don't know the odds but it is very dangerous none-the-less.
[12:56] <Killuminati> mnk, If you really want to read the second post on the link you posted
[12:56] <void^> (i really dislike the behaviour of almost any debian based distro to run an installed service by default)
[12:56] <weedar> mnk, you prefer corrupt data over rebooting?
[12:56] <scheuri> mnk: you better boot into windows to do so....it is NOT safe to manipulate files on NTFS such as writing and deleting
[12:56] <mnk> especially since i pride myself in saying that i only booted into windows once since i installed ubuntu - and that was only cos i couldn't [still can't]  get my HP LJ 1000 printer working
[12:56] <mnk> drat
[12:56] <mnk> :'(
[12:56] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: does a printer work in the guest system ?
[12:56] <dnel> void^: the config is in /etc/default/bittorrent but it appears to be disabled as standard, is it for seeding ubuntu?
[12:57] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: is it a network printer? then surely yes...with configuration...otherwise...never tried, sorry...
[12:57] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: are you using vmware workstation or server?
[12:58] <void^> dnel: no, it's a generic bt tracker. you can use it to host your own torrents. i suppose it comes with gnome's bittorrent client package, or as a dependency. a common user won't need it anyways
[12:58] <weedar> dnel: you don't seed or download anything with the bittorrent client without specifying so. So unless you have chosen to download a torrent it doesn't do a thing
[12:58] <dnel> fair enough, cheers
[12:58] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: workstation
[12:59] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: then you might be luckier...is it USB printer?
[12:59] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: yes
[12:59] <infinity_> hi
[12:59] <Azertyuuu> i don't know nothing about networks....
[12:59] <infinity_> how do i know wich harddrive is (hd0) or (hd1) etc for grub?
[01:00] <Azertyuuu> i don't know anything i mean.
[01:00] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: you MIGHT try to share the usb port (its an option somewhere with vmware) and say, that windows (guest) shall use the usbport...then try to use that
[01:01] <HBuzacott> Does anyone know where I can get the source for network-admin?
[01:01] <Awesome-o2000> does ubuntu haver any kind of wireless setup as part of the install?
[01:01] <HBuzacott> Awesome-o2000, no.
[01:01] <Awesome-o2000> thank you
[01:02] <infinity_> how can i tell which (hd0) is in grub?
[01:02] <scheuri> infinity_: by checking /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:02] <infinity_> scheuri: i mean i need to kno which (hd x,x) is my windows disck but i dont know how to  check...
[01:03] <scheuri> infinity_: ah, sorry...well....
[01:03] <scheuri> infinity_: as far as I remember grub starts with 0...so...hd(0,1) is the first partition on your first disk
[01:03] <scheuri> infinity_: you just need to find out which partition your windows is on
[01:04] <scheuri> infinity_: either with fdisk or fstab
[01:04] <mnk> is there no secure way of writing to ntfs??
[01:04] <scheuri> mnk: no
[01:04] <Azertyuuu> scheuri: i can't find that
[01:04] <scheuri> mnk: or...not yet
[01:04] <dsas> You can pay a company to get ntfs write support....
[01:04] <dsas> can't remember what they're called though.
[01:04] <scheuri> Azertyuuu: hmm...never used workstation myself (only watched people using it)...there should be some sort of option to transfer devices from host to guest
[01:04] <HBuzacott> dsas, microsoft?
[01:05] <l_r> hello
[01:05] <dsas> HBuzacott: No.
[01:05] <infinity_> scheuri: its on /dev/hda1, but ubuntu sees /dev/sdb as (hd0,0)?
[01:05] <HBuzacott> dsas, Buy Windows and get NTFS read/write. That sounds like a Microsoft Marketing ploy :)
[01:05] <scheuri> infinity_: uhm well...then hda is hd(1,1) or seomthing
[01:06] <scheuri> mnk: to get this straight...NTFS is proprietary stuff...MS is not showing "us" how it works...so do not expect miracles
[01:06] <HBuzacott> mnk, it is possible to get NTFS write but it VERY VERY unstable/dodgy
[01:06] <infinity_> scheuri: isnt there a tool i can use that iwll spit out all this info?
[01:06] <scheuri> infinity_: I am sorry...not that I am aware of
[01:07] <Awesome-o2000> the server cd will install a minimal system and then I can install the server apps later right? or does it come with a bunch of server apps on it
[01:07] <mnk> i hate m$
[01:07] <infinity_> scheuri: like it spits it all out after i run grub-install, but i dont wanna fuck up grub nemore then it is so i dun wanna run that again lol
[01:07] <dsas> Awesome-o2000: The former
[01:07] <scheuri> Awesome-o2000: you are right...:)
[01:07] <Awesome-o2000> beautiful
[01:07] <mnk> but my stupid partition magic won't convert my ntfs to fat32
[01:07] <scheuri> mnk: see...another drawback using properitary software...;)...
[01:07] <mnk> it keeps saying something about some files written in another language or something!
[01:07] <HBuzacott> infinity_, please don't swear as this is a highly populated list
[01:07] <dsas> mnk: guess microsoft didn't let them into the ntfs secrets either?
[01:07] <mnk> err i am trying NOT to use M$
[01:07] <mnk> !!
[01:07] <Awesome-o2000> im getting a p266mmx laptop in a few days, all I want is to set the thing up and run a few apps on it, lynx, bitchx, mp3123
[01:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about !
[01:08] <Awesome-o2000> thats it
[01:08] <mnk> that's the idea here guys :)
[01:08] <infinity_> HBuzacott: lol ok sry man
[01:08] <Awesome-o2000> mpg123 I mean
[01:08] <mnk> dsas: haha
[01:08] <HBuzacott> infinity_, that alright :)
[01:08] <Awesome-o2000> maybe I can get wireless working on it, that would be fantastic
[01:08] <Awesome-o2000> maybe not
[01:09] <infinity_> so neone kno how i can run samba config?
[01:09] <HBuzacott> infinity_, what is wrong with Syste > Admin > Share?
[01:09] <Awesome-o2000> infinity_, run samba config? you used to fedora?
[01:09] <HBuzacott> System*
[01:09] <Awesome-o2000> oh wow - a gui app for samba now?
[01:09] <scheuri> Awesome-o2000: sure...it is called SWAT
[01:10] <HBuzacott> Awesome-o2000, it has been in Ubuntu for a while now. I was impressed when it was included
[01:10] <scheuri> Awesome-o2000: and some tools withing kde, gnome and such
[01:10] <Awesome-o2000> I hear you , I am just happy to be getting out of the whole gui thing and into editing the conf files
[01:10] <infinity_> awsome-o2000: i remmember i used a gui app for samba in the past lol,
[01:10] <Awesome-o2000> its good to have the tools though
[01:10] <dvm> hi everyone
[01:10] <infinity_> lol
[01:10] <scheuri> nobody forces you to use guis...;)
[01:10] <dvm> does anyone know how I can check which program is using /dev/dsp? I'm trying to run record from xawtv-tool and I get "open /dev/dsp device or resource busy"
[01:11] <Awesome-o2000> ubuntu's the only thing that can really threaten MS as far as being user-friendly, and one must have gui config tools for this
[01:11] <r3nd3r> yeah
[01:11] <r3nd3r> but it still has a long way to go
[01:11] <Awesome-o2000> I'll tell you though, MS is in trouble when Xgl stabilizes
[01:12] <HBuzacott> Awesome-o2000, It is still Linux. Until my Mother can use Linux without having to ring me up with questions then Ubuntu will overtake MS Windows
[01:12] <void^> ms has directx 10. more than enough for desktop world domination.
[01:12] <scheuri> aye
[01:13] <scheuri> gamers....;)
[01:13] <Awesome-o2000> HBuzacott, I hear you, it isnt easy - sure would be nice for system admins to be able to just ssh in and fix things though
[01:13] <void^> gamers buy desktops
[01:13] <scheuri> the new costumers of MS...
[01:13] <mnk> what do ppl think about this http://www.ntfs-linux.com/
[01:13] <mnk> ?
[01:13] <mnk> proprietry though :(
[01:13] <scheuri> Awesome-o2000: or freenx
[01:14] <HBuzacott> Awesome-o2000, Linux is great for Servers and Techies, but for the rest of the world ... opening a Terminal and is going back to the days of DOS for them. They don't want to do that, everyone likes a GUI.
[01:14] <Awesome-o2000> mnk, mnk hey now - thats fantastic!!!
[01:15] <Hoxzer_> whats wrong with terminal?
[01:15] <Hoxzer_> :(
[01:15] <Hoxzer_> it is gd
[01:15] <mikeeeeey> Hello Mikeeeey whats up
[01:15] <mikeeeeey> nm u
[01:15] <Killuminati> Terminal roxors my boxors
[01:15] <mikeeeeey> same
[01:15] <BIAF> up freedos
[01:15] <F0LL0W3R> heey when i started usin samba server for sharing some files from my box to other windows boxes the shared files asks them to enter username and password for login but i didnt make any user or pass for the files i shared  so what is the problem ?
[01:15] <mikeeeeey> lol im talking to myself :-)
[01:15] <Hoxzer_> everybody likes to write commands and becuase it makes u feel like h4x0r
[01:15] <Awesome-o2000> HBuzacott, they certainly do - which is why I say when Xgl goes stable windows may be in trouble. Xgl is very pretty.
[01:15] <Hoxzer_>  :)
[01:16] <[Wiebel] > HBuzacott: http://blog.wiebel.nl/2006/04/16/linux-eyecandy/. Come again?
[01:16] <calmdown> I recently rebooted my ubuntu breezy OS and now upon booting back up it will not bring up eth2 (my internet connection)
[01:16] <HBuzacott> Awesome-o2000, I have looked at the movies of Xgl, pretty swish
[01:16] <HBuzacott> :)
[01:16] <Kindaichi> hi my sound card can not work simulate how can i fix it
[01:16] <Ng> guys, discussions about xgl and windows and the like should be in #ubuntu-offtopic really
[01:16] <darx> greetings
[01:16] <Awesome-o2000> HBuzacott, I got it up on gentoo - it was really nice but I couldnt get DRI in X, just the desktop
[01:16] <HBuzacott> Ng, we know. We know
[01:16] <[Wiebel] > ubuntu-xgl
[01:17] <[Wiebel] > #
[01:17] <calmdown> I tried sudo ifup eth2, sudo ifconfig eth2 up (makes it show up, but only w/ an mac addr)
[01:17] <darx> why is APIC enabled for uniprocessor systems????
[01:17] <Awesome-o2000> I can't wait though, Ive got an nvidia 6800gs and itll have a good time with it
[01:17] <darx> and how do i disable it for good
[01:17] <calmdown> darx, bios
[01:17] <darx> do i have to recompile the kernal
[01:17] <Awesome-o2000> [Wiebel] , ??? relax , no ones going into an in-depth discussion - just complimenting your distro
[01:17] <HBuzacott> Awesome-o2000, continue on #off-topic?
[01:17] <Awesome-o2000> sure
[01:17] <Ng> darx: it can be used on uniprocessor machines. there's probably a kernel command line option to disable it though, like noapic or apic=off
[01:18] <darx> calmdown: sorry i didn't catch that
[01:18] <dsas> darx, Ng: It's noapic as far as I remember.
[01:18] <[Wiebel] > i'm relaxed ;)
[01:18] <calmdown> darx: try what Ng said
[01:18] <mikearthur> does the default ubuntu-desktop install include irssi?
[01:18] <dsas> mikearthur: yes
[01:18] <calmdown> yes mike
[01:18] <darx> Ng: i just read that it may cause spurious interrupts
[01:18] <mikearthur> thanks guys
[01:18] <darx> Ng: is it a module ?
[01:18] <calmdown> mm dewbie
[01:19] <darx> Ng: by default that is?
[01:19] <mnk> so anyone got expereicne with that commericial ntfs for linux?
[01:19] <calmdown> now i need is my network interface to work
[01:19] <Ng> darx: no I think it's part of the core bits of the kernel
[01:20] <dsas> F0LL0W3R: F0LL0W3R: the problem is though that you need to have an account on your machine to access the shares. This preference can be set in the samba configuration file
[01:20] <darx> Ng: alright... i couldn't boot initially untill i gave the noapic argument, however, i haven't disabled localAPIC
[01:20] <darx> Ng: is it nolapic for that?
 how can i make such like these accounts ?
[01:21] <Ng> darx: looks like it, yes
[01:21] <dsas> F0LL0W3R: To remove the need for accounts you need to look for security=share, and change it to security=user. You could also just add new accounts in system->admin->users and groups I think.
[01:22] <robin_> hello. Is there anyway to make alt+tab display windows on all workspaces ?
[01:22] <darx> Ng: ok..
[01:22] <F0LL0W3R> dsas aha thx i will try now
[01:22] <darx> robin: xgl, compiz does that. but its an overkill though:)
[01:23] <robin_> darx: A colleague showed (off!) that feature from xgl-compiz. Its overkill I agree!
[01:23] <michaels> Ubuntu doesn't ask me whether to save my session anymore, ever since I upgraded to Dapper. How do I get to make that choice?
[01:23] <dsas> michaels: You don't.
[01:23] <darx> robin: just my noob advice.. there must be more graceful ways...
[01:24] <herman_munster> michaels, Desktop | Preferences | Session
[01:24] <darx> :)
[01:24] <robin_> darx: I was wondering if this is a metacity issue ?
[01:24] <dsas> michaels: The option has gone, you can permanently disable/enable it in system->preferences->session
[01:24] <michaels> bleh
[01:24] <ryanakca> would it be possible to install ubuntu with debian boot floppies? and then when you run /usr/sbin/base-config, just put in ubuntu repos instead of deb?<
[01:24] <darx> robin: beats me... i'm totaly unaware of the detail...
[01:25] <scheuri> ryanakca: there are some articeles in wiki.ubuntu.com for that issue
[01:25] <scheuri> ryanakca: you may use "floppy" or "floppies" as search string
[01:25] <darx> robin: but hey.. if you managed to install xgl-compiz, you could disable everything except the alt tab
[01:25] <ryanakca> kk, ty
[01:26] <robin_> darx, ok. Well thanks anyway. Its a bit odd that something seemingly as trivial as this is not configurable though. Ah yes, I think I'll follow your advice and give xgl-compiz a shot then!
[01:26] <edneymatias> hello all
[01:26] <HBuzacott> 'ello
[01:26] <darx> robin_: it is probabily highly possible.. but i just don't know it.. didn't google help?
[01:27] <darx> robin_: i don't want you to break your install..
[01:27] <robin_> darx, nope. There seem to be a lot of people wondering about the alt-tab issue but no solution thus far
[01:27] <regebro> Hiya all! This external laptop thingy is SO difficult.
[01:27] <darx> robin_: coz xgl:compiz is alpha
[01:27] <Bassetts> morning all
[01:27] <apokryphos> alt-tab issue?
[01:27] <HBuzacott> Good night :)
[01:28] <regebro> I have googled until my fingers blled, and still I can't find a good docs on how to do this.
[01:28] <darx> robin_: oh i c
[01:28] <regebro> Any honts on where to look?
[01:28] <thecracker> who  can help i search blackdown java to download
[01:28] <robin_> darx, agreed - though I've seen folks using it on a regular basis of late without problems.
[01:28] <regebro> s/honts/hints. :)
[01:28] <orbin> regebro: what thingy? :)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> thecracker: enable multiverse repo and you will find sun-java in the repos
[01:28] <HBuzacott> regebro, what are you trying to find?
[01:28] <herman_munster> thecracker, download which version?
[01:29] <darx> robin_: well if you are game, my blessings...:) i;m running it..
[01:29] <regebro> orbin: Getting the external screen on my laptop to work.
[01:29] <gnomefreak> !java > thecracker
[01:29] <gnomefreak> thecracker: ubotu sent you a pm on java
[01:29] <darx> robin_: drains my battery more and is unstable at times thats all i have to suffer...
[01:29] <thecracker> thank
[01:30] <HBuzacott> regebro, do you want the screens to show the same screen or do you want a panarama
[01:30] <HBuzacott> ?
[01:30] <regebro> HBuzacott: I'm trying to get the external video on my laptop to work.
[01:30] <thecracker> bye
[01:30] <robin_> darx: my problem with xgl-compiz (and I haven't installed it yet) is that it sort of makes the system less responsive - as in - it makes the user wait for all the flashy effects to take place which actually slows the desktop rather than make it more usable.
[01:30] <regebro> HBuzacott: I actually don't care. :)
[01:31] <HBuzacott> regebro, VGA?
[01:31] <darx> robin_: whats your graphics card?
[01:31] <regebro> HBuzacott: Yes?
[01:31] <regebro> If I could just switch between built-in and external without rebooting, I would be happy.
[01:31] <orbin> robin_: isn't the whole premise of it is that iit's eye candy?
[01:31] <robin_> darx: does alt+tab and a switch happen in a jiffy ? I have an nvidia 7400 on a vaio SZ. I think its well supported.
[01:31] <HBuzacott> regebro, does your laptop have a change screen key. eg. on mine it's fn-F5
[01:31] <darx> robin_: and if you haven't installed it, how do you know bout these issues?
[01:31] <BIAF> anyone got webmin experance
[01:32] <regebro> Yes. It does nothing under Ubuntu.
[01:32] <robin_> darx, like I said, there are colleagues who've been showing off!
[01:32] <darx> robin_: yeah very fast..
[01:32] <robin_> darx, fine then, I'll give it a shot.
[01:32] <fiyawerx> anyone know if there's an easy way to make your wifi auto-connect in ubuntu? im using kubuntu and can't seem to find a way yet
[01:32] <fiyawerx> was wondering if there's something simple that works in both
[01:33] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: Thanks for all the help mate, I got WoW working ^^
[01:33] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, How?
[01:33] <robin_> darx, thanks! I'm off to set xgl-compiz up.
[01:33] <HBuzacott> regebro, hum, Have you tried booting with the external screen attached at boot?
[01:33] <darx> robin_: best of luck..
[01:33] <harry> does ubuntu automatically runs the bluetooth if i inserted it or i should have it configured???
[01:33] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: I downloaded wine 0.9.5, applied two patches and it worked xD
[01:33] <dsas> fiyawerx: try knetwork-manager
[01:34] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, Good for you =)
[01:34] <Killuminati> Hope you have fun
[01:34] <dsas> fiyawerx: (at least I think that's what the kde version is called)
[01:34] <regebro> HBuzacott: Yes, that works. But having to reboot is really a pain.
[01:34] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: Thanks, and thanks again
[01:34] <HBuzacott> regebro, what is the key command to change screen?
[01:34] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, I didn't really help =P
[01:35] <harry> does ubuntu automatically runs the bluetooth if i inserted it or i should have it configured???
[01:35] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Killuminati: You did bother, that helped
[01:35] <Killuminati> [HHS] Dawnwater, I guess =P
[01:35] <regebro> HBuzacott: fn-F4
[01:35] <mgedmin> harry: just try it
[01:35] <regebro> Hehe. The Sleepmode button <Fn-F5> works. I pressed itby mistake. Bopp, the computer turned off. :)
[01:35] <harry> mgedmin: does it work for you??
[01:36] <mgedmin> yes
[01:36] <mgedmin> my T42 has built-in bluetooth that pretends to be a USB dongle
[01:36] <HBuzacott> regebro, Then there is no conflict
[01:36] <FliesLikeABrick> bluetooth has worked fine on my T42
[01:36] <FliesLikeABrick> unfortunately I can't offer any details, last I used BT was long ago
[01:37] <harry> mgedmin: i'm trying to use via bluetooth transfer of my mp3 to my NokiaN70 since dapper drake doesnt detect my phone when i connect i via USB, i cant even install the PC suite software to make it so
[01:37] <regebro> HBuzacott: No conflict, OK, that sounds good. :)
[01:37] <mgedmin> harry: install the gnome-bluetooth package
[01:37] <regebro> Isn't there a graphical X setup tool or something?
[01:38] <harry> mgedmin: do you think my plan will work??
[01:38] <mgedmin> it might
[01:38] <harry> mgedmin: how do i get it on using terminal??
[01:38] <regebro> I've tried to hand-hack the conf-file, but that doesn't seem to help. I would like a graphical editor that makes sure the conf makes sense.
[01:38] <HBuzacott> regebro, Do you have another Operating System on the computer?
[01:39] <regebro> Yes, Windows. Evenrything works fine there.
[01:39] <mgedmin> harry:  first check that your bluetooth device was detected: type hcitool dev
[01:39] <mgedmin> harry: if it works, try sending a file with gnome-obex-send filename
[01:40] <HBuzacott> regebro, what type of Laptop? I will do some bug searching for you
[01:41] <regebro> HP Pavilion DV4000
[01:41] <regebro> HBuzacott: I have tried googling for that, but found nothing useful.
[01:42] <HBuzacott> regebro, but what type of Laptop is it?
[01:42] <regebro> HP Pavilion DV4000
[01:43] <HBuzacott> regebro, it is a problem with X (x.org) obviouly having some kind of conflict.
[01:43] <HBuzacott> just need to work out what type
[01:44] <regebro> HBuzacott: OK, I figured it's some xorg.conf issue. But it's a fiddly file to edit.
[01:44] <thomaswebb> hi, i am wondering if someone can help me setup Apache2 with PHP and MySQL, the packages ar einstalled but are not setup i think
[01:45] <HBuzacott> regebro, another thought is that you can restart x with ctrl-alt-bksp
[01:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell thomaswebb about lamp
[01:46] <HBuzacott> regebro, I will just try some ideas out on my laptop now
[01:46] <regebro> HBuzacott: Yeah, I used that when testing changes to the xorg.conf
[01:46] <pekay> hey whats the port and password for a MySQL database when its installed?
[01:46] <regebro> HBuzacott: OK, thanks.
[01:46] <thomaswebb> thank you
[01:47] <KenSentMe> pekay: the login is root and at first login there is no password
[01:47] <pekay> Kennie: I just get now "#2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)" on phpMyAdmin
[01:47] <pekay> KenSentMe*
[01:47] <KenSentMe> !lamp
[01:48] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:48] <HBuzacott> regebro, have you tried a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' with the external monitor attached?
[01:48] <KenSentMe> pekay: have you used this? ^^
[01:48] <regebro> Nope, that's an interesting idea, HBuzacott. I'll try that.
[01:48] <pekay> KenSentMe: :o
[01:50] <coti> alguien q me ayude con scripts?
[01:51] <converge> Hello
[01:51] <regebro> HBuzacott: OK, that didn't work straight off, but that might be because I now am in external mode. ;)
[01:51] <converge> I download ubuntu to my hardisk
[01:51] <regebro> I'll try a bit more with this, but gotta go now.
[01:51] <converge> after I burned it to cd
[01:51] <KenSentMe> !es
[01:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:51] <regebro> Thanks for sending me up another path of testing HBuzacott .
[01:51] <converge> but it dont boot from cd after I restart
[01:51] <converge> :(
[01:51] <converge> hello
[01:51] <converge> :P
[01:51] <KenSentMe> !patience
[01:51] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:52] <rich909> Hi all
[01:52] <slug> hello all
[01:52] <KenSentMe> converge: maybe you should check your BIOS settings, to make sure you first boot from cd
[01:52] <rich909> need ssome help trying to set up sound card drivers
[01:52] <converge> yes I did it
[01:52] <converge> it try to boot from cd but After that it opens windows
[01:53] <KenSentMe> converge: don't you get any screen from ubuntu?
[01:53] <converge> nope
[01:53] <KenSentMe> converge: what program did you use to burn it?
[01:53] <rich909> any1 able to assist ?
[01:53] <converge> nero
[01:53] <KenSentMe> !ask
[01:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:53] <slug> is there a tool i can use for cleaning up my system? removing temp files and not needed libs or symbolic links ?
[01:53] <converge> do I have to use a program to burn it or just burn it with windows xp ?
[01:54] <KenSentMe> converge: and have you burned it as an iso, or you just copied the .iso file to the cd?
[01:54] <javiolo> hi
[01:54] <detectiveinspekt> does anyone know whats the best to encode mpeg2 for dvds, transcode, ffmpeg or mencoder?
[01:54] <javiolo> can anyone help me building freenx from sources? I get an error...
[01:54] <converge> I just copied it
[01:54] <KenSentMe> converge: check the option for burning an iso
[01:54] <johnZay> dang the forums are offline
[01:55] <pekay> whats the difference between apt and aptitude?
[01:55] <rich909> ok, getting error when doing automaic install fo AC97 audio drivers
[01:55] <KenSentMe> converge: the iso is a copy of a cd, with all the files and options
[01:55] <johnZay> aptide is brainier :-)
[01:55] <finalbeta> I installed my Linksys PCIMCIA WPC54G wireless card thru ndiswrapper, but when I want to bring the interface up I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Onbekend bestand of map (unknown file or folder). Didn't find anything usefull on the net. So help :)
[01:55] <converge> but there are alot of files in the file that I download from ubuntu
[01:55] <johnZay> sometimes aptitude can install things that apt-get can't
[01:55] <converge> do I have to burn all of them to cD ?
[01:55] <KenSentMe> converge: that's right, yes
[01:56] <KenSentMe> !iso
[01:56] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:56] <KenSentMe> converge: forget that
[01:56] <johnZay> !aptitude
[01:56] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the depends installed with a package and can remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:56] <converge> forget what ?
[01:56] <johnZay> ;-)
[01:56] <KenSentMe> converge: an iso is a complete copy of a cd, in one file.
[01:56] <javiolo> can anyone help me http://pastebin.ca/69012
[01:56] <KenSentMe> converge: what ubotu said
[01:57] <gnomefreak> johnZay: aptitude will install everything that apt-get will (no more) just that using aptitude will will install suggested packages automaticly where as apt-get wont
[01:57] <KenSentMe> slug: your temp folder is emptied after every reboot
[01:57] <thomaswebb> hello, when i go to http://localhost i only see an index of pages with the folder apache2-default
[01:57] <converge> I really dont understand :(
[01:57] <johnZay> actaully yesterday I couldnt get something with apt-get and then was able to get it with aptitude
[01:57] <converge> could I just copy the files to cd with windows xp ?
[01:58] <KenSentMe> what version of nero do you use?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> johnZay: aptitude adn apt are the same package manager (sptitude is more advanced)
[01:58] <converge> nerovision express SE
[01:58] <gnomefreak> atitude*
[01:58] <converge> nerovision express 2 SE
[01:59] <gnomefreak> you know what i mean :(
[01:59] <thoreauputic> converge: you burn an ISO as an image
[01:59] <johnZay> obviously they work differently if one was able to install the software and the other wasnt :-p
[01:59] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: he doesn't know what an image is
[01:59] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: ah
[01:59] <gnomefreak> johnZay: aptitude and apt-get will install the same sofatware (the package managers read the repos) thats all they do
[01:59] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: but i didn't mention the word image, so maybe that will help him find the right option in nero
[02:00] <KenSentMe> converge: can't you use the program nero burning rom?
[02:00] <johnZay> yes but they do it differently
[02:00] <javiolo> can anyone help me http://pastebin.ca/69012 Im trying to build freenx from sources...
[02:00] <johnZay> thats why one worked and the other didnt
[02:00] <converge> I said nero to make start up disk ?
[02:00] <KenSentMe> i thought nero vision express was for burning video's etc
[02:00] <converge> could it works ?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> johnZay: aptitude will remove things that apt wont if installed with aptitude
oh okay, but is there a program what shows me the depensies for each program i have installed? because i was experimenting a little with a old opengl game and installed all kind of packages mostly lib stuff like libsdl and libmixer versions
[02:00] <pc22> how can i remote my work-ubuntu from home? its in a lan?
[02:01] <KenSentMe> converge: are you from holland btw?
[02:01] <converge> no I amn not
[02:01] <converge> I am from turkey
[02:01] <KenSentMe> converge: that way i could explain it a bit easier
[02:01] <KenSentMe> ah, ok
[02:01] <gnomefreak> johnZay: its your repos that decide what packages you can have nothing more nothing less
[02:02] <johnZay> and it can install some things that apt-get cant
[02:02] <KenSentMe> converge: try to open the program called 'nero burning rom' and then check this page : http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[02:02] <gnomefreak> johnZay: the package managers read the repos when you type the command that is all they do read and grab
[02:03] <johnZay> i know what they do and I know what happened on my screen yesterday :-p
[02:03] <thoreauputic> converge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:03] <DocTomoe> Hi, I need help with repairing my apache2 server on ubuntu - all packages are installed, and apache seems to be running, but I can get no connect on localhost. Anyone willing to give a helping hand?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> johnZay: what package did atitude grab that apt-get wont?
[02:03] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: that's better
[02:03] <johnZay> broken ones in edgy
[02:03] <thoreauputic> ubotu burniso is <reply> To burn an ISO CD in windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:03] <converge> I am burning it now I hope it works
[02:03] <converge> thanks
[02:04] <gnomefreak> johnZay: nope im using edgy
[02:04] <thoreauputic> !burniso
[02:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about burniso
[02:04] <thoreauputic> bah
[02:04] <KenSentMe> lol
[02:04] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: don't make him mad
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !iso
[02:04] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:04] <KenSentMe> he's been very helpfull
[02:04] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: ?^^^^
[02:04] <thoreauputic> !burniso
[02:05] <ubotu> To burn an ISO CD in windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:05] <thoreauputic> aha
[02:05] <johnZay> and that means what?
[02:05] <johnZay> lol
[02:05] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: that's not what converge is looking for
[02:05] <gnomefreak> lol thoreauputic you cheated
[02:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: how so ?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> johnZay: apt = aptitude same package manager
[02:05] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: did you just add htat?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: he only listens to me in /msg ;)
[02:05] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: in iso it's not mentioned how you can burn an iso when you don't have ubuntu
[02:05] <gnomefreak> that*
[02:05] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: yes
[02:06] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: yep it does
[02:06] <javiolo> can anyone help me http://pastebin.ca/69012 Im trying to build freenx from sources...
[02:06] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: the ISO factoid is way too long IMO
[02:06] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: how do you explain taht apt and aptitude read same info from repos
[02:06] <johnZay> but they deal with the info differently
[02:06] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: i didnt do that one ;)
[02:07] <johnZay> sheesh
[02:07] <gnomefreak> johnZay: they will install the same packages
[02:07] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: both use the /etc/apt/sources.list so ...
[02:07] <Hoxzer_> so ...
[02:07] <gnomefreak> apt-get install foo and aptitude install foo will both install foo
[02:07] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: yes, aptitude is smarter about deps though
[02:08] <gnomefreak> aptitude different when it comes to suggested packages
[02:08] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: that's not true, when you do !iso the info is for when you are already on a linux system
[02:08] <johnZay> so how come one wouldnt install the packages and the other would?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: hes says aptitude installed somethiong that apt wouldnt and thats not true
[02:08] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: look at the last link in !iso tells you how to do it with nero
[02:08] <gnomefreak> alteast it used to
[02:08] <johnZay> so I just made it up lol?
[02:09] <thoreauputic> johnZay: what did it install ?
[02:09] <javiolo> can anyone help me http://pastebin.ca/69012 Im trying to build freenx from sources...
[02:09] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: it's only tells about a md5sum checker
[02:09] <thoreauputic> javiolo: why are you building it? You can get a deb for it from seveas' repos
[02:10] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ok KenSentMe give me a sec
[02:10] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:10] <KenSentMe> Maybe you could add the url from !burniso to !iso also
[02:10] <DocTomoe> additional information about my apache2 gambit: Apache doesn't run even after invoking it manually, http://localhost/ does show an cups favicon, but returns a "no connection to server" message.
[02:10] <javiolo> thoreauputic Im using ppc, no deb for ppc
[02:10] <Stork> what can one use to burn an iso from the command line?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> javiolo: ah I see
[02:10] <Seveas> javiolo, apt-get source & dpkg-buildpackage
[02:10] <KenSentMe> !iso
[02:10] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:10] <johnZay> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-panel gnome-session gnome-terminal nautilus libxklavier10 gnome-applets-data capplets-data gnome-panel-data
[02:10] <Seveas> javiolo, you need the kanotix patches I applied in the Ubuntu packages
[02:10] <javiolo> seveas did you see the log I posted ?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> as I said, the iso factoid is way too long
[02:10] <Stork> KenSentMe, that didn't seem relevant :|
[02:10] <gnomefreak> he didnt add it to the !iso one :(  its !burniso no KenSentMe
[02:11] <KenSentMe> !tell Stork about burniso
[02:11] <johnZay> I put exactly the same into apt-get intall and it didnt install them
[02:11] <gnomefreak> johnZay: apt-get will install those same packages
[02:11] <johnZay> it didnt..
[02:11] <F0LL0W3R> i hv problem with the shared files  i mean i want share my files for windows boxes without username or pass modify the smb.conf ?
[02:11] <Seveas> javiolo, no 
[02:11] <thoreauputic> johnZay: you probably mad an error
[02:11] <thoreauputic> *made
[02:11] <johnZay> i didnt
[02:11] <gnomefreak> it does i dont know what to tell you
[02:11] <Seveas> javiolo, heh ok
[02:12] <KenSentMe> !tell F0LL0W3R about samba
[02:12] <thoreauputic> johnZay: *sigh* we do know how aptitude and apt work you know
[02:12] <Seveas> javiolo, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[02:12] <fresch> hi, i have an install of ubuntu drake dapper and i want to install firefox-dom-inspector but it fails with: firefox-dom-inspector: depends firefox (= 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3) but 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 is to be installed...
[02:12] <javiolo> seveas please have a look at it :P
[02:12] <johnZay> and i do know that they handled the same command differently
[02:12] <Seveas> you need the -rfakeroot
[02:12] <converge> it didnt work again
[02:12] <thoreauputic> johnZay: OK have it your way
[02:12] <johnZay> i will lol cos I know what I saqw and you dont
[02:13] <KenSentMe> converge: try to open the program called 'nero burning rom' and then check this page : http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[02:13] <gnomefreak> johnZay: only difference is aptitude installs all suggesed and recommended packages where apt-get will tell you what they are not install them for you
[02:13] <KenSentMe> converge: have you checked this? ^^^
[02:13] <thoreauputic> johnZay: on the otherhand, we know how it works and gnomefreak was correct in this case
[02:13] <javiolo> seveas that doesnt work...
[02:13] <converge> nope
[02:13] <KenSentMe> !tell converge avout burniso
[02:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell converge avout burniso
[02:13] <converge> I am checkin it now
[02:13] <Stork> ah, cheers KenSentMe :)
[02:13] <johnZay> yes im sure
[02:13] <Seveas> javiolo, logs  pastebin
[02:13] <johnZay> you dont sound like you kniw it
[02:14] <Stork> KenSentMe, except i don't use windows..
[02:14] <thoreauputic> johnZay: drop it
[02:14] <johnZay> ok
[02:14] <KenSentMe> !tell converge about burniso
[02:14] <javiolo> seveas ok, could I send you a /msg Im on terminal and everything is too fast here...
[02:14] <Stork> what can one use to burn an iso from the command line?
[02:14] <Seveas> javiolo, sure
[02:14] <KenSentMe> converge: and read what ubotu tells you
[02:14] <KenSentMe> converge: maybe that's even easier
[02:14] <converge> ok I will
[02:14] <Stork> what can one use to burn an iso from the command line? (in ubuntu)
[02:14] <Dreamglider> ( Uptime ) 4 days, 24 min [ Record: 4d  24m 55s ]  | Users: 1 | Load: 0.54, 0.38, 0.24
[02:14] <KenSentMe> !tell KenSentMe about burniso
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Stork: cdrecord
[02:15] <Stork> thoreauputic, cheers
[02:15] <KenSentMe> Stork: check the !burniso, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[02:15] <fiveiron> 7:17AM  up 178 days, 17:07, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[02:16] <Stork> KenSentMe, the !burniso is for windows
[02:16] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[02:16] <KenSentMe> Stork: it's not, scroll below
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Stork: actually it has mac and ubuntu instructions too
[02:16] <KenSentMe> Stork: it says, macOS and Ubuntu, and a link to an other wiki page
[02:16] <thoreauputic> I'll rewrite it...
[02:16] <johnZay> before I leave I just wanna say that I was the one who was trolled and accused of lying by gnomefreak... I shall be complaining
[02:16] <converge> #
[02:16] <converge> Verify the ISO file
[02:16] <converge> what it means ?
[02:16] <Blaze^^> hello, how can i add the swap partition to fstab in order to automount :)
[02:16] <Blaze^^> !swap
[02:16] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[02:17] <Stork> KenSentMe, thoreauputic, ah, sorry, the summary of the factoid was confusing
[02:17] <KenSentMe> converge: you can skip that part
[02:17] <Stork> s/confusing/misleading/
[02:17] <converge> ok
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Stork: I've revised it
[02:17] <Stork> awesome :)
[02:17] <thoreauputic> !burniso
[02:17] <ubotu> burniso is To burn an ISO CD in windows, mac, or linux, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:17] <MdSalih2> Hello all
[02:17] <KenSentMe> great
[02:18] <converge> now I am downloading cdburner xp pro
[02:18] <MdSalih2> how can i use gparted to make a parition an active partition ?
[02:18] <MdSalih2> i.e. bootable
[02:18] <KenSentMe> converge: great
[02:18] <gary> any g4 ppc users on today?
[02:18] <larson9999> MdSalih: i think you right click and there is a manage flags?
[02:18] <MdSalih2> no manage flags :(
[02:19] <thoreauputic> gary: I have an iBook G4
[02:19] <larson9999> MdSalih: or something to the effect
[02:19] <Blaze^^> what is the mountpoint of the swap partition? =)
[02:19] <Blaze^^> please help :-P
[02:19] <thoreauputic> gary: what's your question ?
[02:19] <mgedmin> Blaze^^: swap is not mounted
[02:19] <Blaze^^> but should it be added to fstab?
[02:19] <gary> thoreauputic: have you had any boot issue with the dapper kernel?
[02:19] <mgedmin> but you may list it in fstab, yes
[02:19] <thoreauputic> Blaze^^: yes
[02:19] <thoreauputic> gary: no
[02:19] <Blaze^^> thoreauputic: tell me what should i type, please
[02:19] <KenSentMe> Blaze^^: /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:19] <mgedmin> Blaze^^: example: /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:20] <Blaze^^> 10x =)
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Blaze^^: heh - that's about it ^^
[02:20] <MdSalih2> what other partitioning apps are there for ubuntu ?
[02:20] <Blaze^^> but if my partition is /dev/sda6
[02:20] <gary> thoreauputic: cool, i'm having big problems, but can't find answers
[02:20] <Blaze^^> (swap partition), thoreauputic
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Blaze^^: then put that instead of hda5
[02:20] <MdSalih2> cant find the set flags/make active parition option in gparted :(
[02:20] <Blaze^^> ok, 10x a lot :)
[02:21] <gary> thoreauputic:  i'll try the forums
[02:21] <KenSentMe> Blaze^^: lol, i was reading 10 times what? But it's thanks :D
[02:21] <thoreauputic> KenSentMe: some people think mangling the language is cool ;)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sob
[02:22] <KenSentMe> thoreauputic: u got it m8
[02:23] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: can i see you in -ops for a min please
[02:23] <KenSentMe> Can anyone add a line to uboto, or only for ops?
[02:23] <Fee^> has anyone been able to successfully get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[02:23] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: OK
[02:23] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: only certain people
[02:23] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: ah, okay
[02:23] <MdSalih2> what other partitioning apps are there for ubuntu ?
[02:23] <KenSentMe> MdSalih2: cfdisk
[02:23] <KenSentMe> MdSalih2: runs in terminal
[02:24] <cavediver> Hi.
[02:24] <KenSentMe> hi
[02:25] <cavediver> Isw it possible to integrade decrypt with gpg if I right-click on a gpg file ? Seems only encrypt is availible.
[02:25] <AidyMole> kayz I fooked op by trying  edgy.... Is it possible to simply start over without having to reformat? (It would be ok for me to just delete all system dirs and install, unfortunately everything is on one partition)
[02:25] <AidyMole> I'm downloading the dapper instalcd now
[02:25] <converge> I donwloaded it
[02:26] <converge> what must I do now KenSentMe ?
[02:26] <AidyMole> what do you want to do converge
[02:26] <converge> trying to burn iso file :(
[02:27] <finalbeta> "SIOCSIFFLAGS: unknown file or folder" after installing linksys WPC54G thru ndiswrapper and trying to bring the interface up. Any idea's?
[02:27] <converge> and I tried two times and I did wrong
[02:27] <AidyMole> are you in windows?
[02:27] <mikearthur> using sudo?
[02:27] <converge> now I downloaded cdburner xp pro
[02:27] <converge> yes I am
[02:27] <KenSentMe> converge: check the third step
[02:27] <AidyMole> tss tssk
[02:28] <KenSentMe> converge: install the program you just downloaded, and then do as the third stap says
[02:28] <converge> yes but in cd burner I cant find the file menu
[02:28] <Fee^> doomed from the start
[02:28] <qweasdzxc> finalbeta: is it a broadcom chip? have you tried the native driver?
[02:28] <rich909> does ubuntu come with gcc ?
[02:29] <KenSentMe> converge: wait a second
[02:29] <AidyMole> rich909, no
[02:29] <converge> ok
[02:29] <converge> I am waiting
[02:29] <KenSentMe> converge: what menu options do you get
[02:29] <AidyMole> you need to separately install it rich909
[02:29] <dsas> rich909: If you need gcc install build-essential (it's on the cd or the internet)
[02:29] <finalbeta> qweasdzxc:  it is a broadcom chip, I've tryed the linksys drivers, not sure what you mean with native.
[02:30] <rich909> ok, dsas
[02:30] <converge> creat new data CD/w , video dvd or burn an iso imagine
[02:30] <converge> I choose that
[02:30] <qweasdzxc> modprobe -l|grep bcm43xx
[02:30] <qweasdzxc> /lib/modules/2.6.17-2-be9bb5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[02:30] <KenSentMe> converge: yes, burn an iso image
[02:30] <qweasdzxc> finalbeta: what's the output of that command on your system?
[02:30] <redblades> Hey, I was windering, with gnome, is it possible to assign individual desktops diffeerent backgrounds?
[02:31] <converge> damn I am an idiot
[02:31] <KenSentMe> converge: no you're not, you just are too impatient
[02:31] <finalbeta> qweasdzxc: /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[02:32] <qweasdzxc> finalbeta: ok. and what is the output of lsmod|grep bcm
[02:32] <KenSentMe> !tell mgedmin about patience
[02:32] <KenSentMe> mgedmin: here you have it ;)
[02:32] <MagicFab> G'morning to all. I am looking for any examples of how bad Flash7 under linux really is. I've xperimented sound problems, delays or freezing. Does anyone have horror stories ?
[02:32] <redblades> So is it possible?
[02:32] <finalbeta> qweasdzxc: can I paste that in pm?
[02:32] <qweasdzxc> yes
[02:32] <KenSentMe> finalbeta: you could also use a pastebin
[02:32] <KenSentMe> !paste
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:33] <pci-ubuntu> what
[02:33] <Fee^> so #ubuntu doesn't like /exec -o grep the * in the channel then? :P
[02:34] <finalbeta> qweasdzxc: KenSentMe :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16268
[02:34] <converge> KenSentMe
[02:34] <KenSentMe> converge: yes
[02:34] <converge> I found the write disk from iso file
[02:34] <converge> but now I cant find the iso file that files I download from ubuntu
[02:34] <converge> :(
[02:35] <qweasdzxc> finalbeta: that's ok. i suppose you only need to put the firmware in the right place
[02:35] <qweasdzxc> finalbeta: try reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:35] <converge> there isnt a iso file in the files I download from ubuntu
[02:35] <pc22> hi converge
[02:35] <qweasdzxc> finalbeta: point 1.2 and following
[02:35] <converge> hello pc22
[02:35] <KenSentMe> converge: the iso is one file
[02:35] <converge> where is it ?
[02:35] <converge> I cant find it
[02:36] <finalbeta> qweasdzxc: thnx, I'll do that
[02:36] <KenSentMe> converge: in your My Documents, or on your desktop
[02:36] <converge> I dowloaded ubuntu to my desktop
[02:36] <converge> but it have several files
[02:36] <converge> like .disk
[02:36] <KenSentMe> converge: what download link did you use?
[02:37] <converge> dists
[02:37] <converge> pool
[02:37] <converge> isolinux
[02:37] <converge> these are the files
[02:37] <KenSentMe> converge: then you have unpacked the iso file
[02:37] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:37] <KenSentMe> converge: download it again and save the file on your desktop, then use this file to burn an iso image in the program
[02:37] <converge> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[02:38] <plugins> hello !
[02:38] <KenSentMe> converge: that's the right one
[02:38] <gypsymauro> I'm using dapper with a scsi scanner, but I can't use xsane as user, just as root, if I look at /dev/sg0 I c crw-rw---- 1 root root 21, 0 2006-06-22 09:08 sg0
[02:38] <converge> but when I donnload it it have several files
[02:38] <converge> not only a iso file
[02:38] <KenSentMe> converge: why did you download the alternate one by the way? And not desktop?
[02:38] <plugins> someone knows a good howto for bluetooth NAP with dapper?
[02:38] <converge> somebody told me last night . to download my modem it will work
[02:39] <AidyMole> hey what's the ubuntu channel for more expierienced/bleeding edge stuff again?
[02:39] <Healot> Bluetooth dongle? I guess most of them work
[02:39] <xophEr> Searching for someone who's willing to clean my flat, volunteers? ;)
[02:39] <converge> so there isnt a iso files
[02:39] <converge> it is all opened
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Aidamina: #ubuntu+1 for edgy - but not much happening yet
[02:39] <KenSentMe> converge: but when you open that link in internet explorer, you download one file
[02:40] <thoreauputic> umm AidyMole that was for you sorry
[02:40] <converge> yes after installing it there isnt a file
[02:40] <KenSentMe> converge: Save the file to you computer first
[02:40] <converge> I saved it !
[02:40] <plugins> yes bluetooth dongle works but no tcpip
[02:40] <converge> last night
[02:40] <KenSentMe> converge: what have you installed?
[02:40] <AidyMole> thoreauputic, ah... my edgy is fooked up right now, but I don't feel like fixing things... is it possible to force everything to go back to the original dapper versions? I just downloaded the cd
[02:40] <converge> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[02:41] <converge> I downloaded this
[02:41] <KenSentMe> converge: the .iso file should be somewhere on your computer then
[02:41] <neotard> holy crapoly, lol.. sun java at least running eclipse is so much faster at doing it that gnu
[02:41] <thoreauputic> AidyMole: downgrading is not supported - it would be a massive headache
[02:41] <converge> yeah I found it
[02:41] <AidyMole> jakamaka
[02:41] <plugins> healot :yes bluetooth dongle works but no tcpip
[02:41] <converge> it is in documents and setting
[02:41] <KenSentMe> converge: you downloaded the correct file, but you don't have to run/open it after you downloaded it. You then use the CD Burner XP too;
[02:42] <KenSentMe> converge: great
[02:42] <converge> but it is only 708 kb ?
[02:42] <KenSentMe> converge: hmm, that's not right
[02:42] <AidyMole> thoreauputic, uh kay so I'm fooked and I need to get fixing again?
[02:42] <Healot> plugins: it depends on the dongle itself
[02:42] <KenSentMe> converge: it should be 700+ mb
[02:43] <converge> sorry it says it is 692 MB
[02:43] <KenSentMe> converge: that's good
[02:43] <KenSentMe> converge: now use the burning program to burn the iso image
[02:43] <thoreauputic> AidyMole: I'm on dapper - I don't know about edgy yet :)
[02:43] <converge> Make sure you set the cd as bootable so it starts up from there at bootup
[02:44] <converge> how could I do that
[02:44] <plugins> healot: ive already found some howtos configuring bnep0 as interface in /etc/networks/interfaces but it depends on hotplug
[02:44] <thoreauputic> converge: set your BIOS to boot from CD
[02:44] <converge> ok sorry
[02:45] <Healot> plugins: configure the IP with ifconfig? try if you can set the IP address
[02:45] <Healot> btw, Dapper has no hotplug :)
[02:45] <converge> now it is writing ! I hope it works now :
[02:45] <krang> anyone know how to get around the problem of firefox not working if a user with a network homedir logs on to 2 different machines at once?
[02:45] <plugins> healot: i know thats my prob
[02:46] <KenSentMe> converge: me too, but it sure will
[02:46] <Healot> use different profile, krang, if there is only the default profile, create one
[02:46] <plugins> no hotplug
[02:46] <Healot> btw... the device is detected right?
[02:46] <Healot> plugins: ?
[02:46] <plugins> i tried grml-btnet
[02:46] <krang> Healot: you mean my user has to select a different one, or if I make a new profile, it can handle multiple logins?
[02:47] <plugins> but when it comes to the point firering up the if then its not working SCIOFLAGS or so ...
[02:47] <Healot> you can choose different profile, if the other user uses the current profile
[02:47] <Healot> plugins: with sudo?
[02:47] <plugins> yes
[02:47] <plugins> sudo
[02:48] <converge> now I will try it cya !
[02:48] <krang> Healot: nah, i wanted it to be totally transparent to the user
[02:48] <plugins> iface bnep0 inet static
[02:48] <plugins> address 192.168.1.1
[02:48] <plugins> netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:48] <Healot> krang: you can't use the same profile at the same time
[02:48] <krang> Healot: well bollocks.
[02:48] <Healot> what's the result of ifup?
[02:49] <igorzolnikov> hi
[02:49] <krang> So, how *do* you prevent a user from logging in twice in linux?
[02:49] <plugins> SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
[02:49] <plugins> bnep0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:49] <plugins> Failed to bring up bnep0.
[02:50] <Chousuke> krang: you could put stuff in some systemwide login script that checks if the user is already logged in and logs him out if he is.
[02:50] <Healot> but the device is in the network interface list right
[02:51] <qweasdzxc> krang: gdm should do a check to see if the user is already logged in, doesn't it print any message on a dialog?
[02:51] <Healot> plugins: ?
[02:51] <Healot> krang means his firefox profile...
[02:51] <plugins> yes as i pasted before
[02:51] <igorzolnikov> i put web application into ROOT and have there folder 'app1'... and deploy application with name 'app1' into webapps... if request http://localhost:8080/app1/
[02:51] <qweasdzxc> ups...
[02:52] <nbjayme> hello i don't know what i have done to my mixer but i cannot record using my mic anymore using arecord :( help!
[02:52] <MdSalih> is it possible to change the hostname on a ubuntu install
[02:52] <MdSalih> ?
[02:52] <Healot> krang: just create two different profiles, if one is used, used the other one? pretty easy isn't
[02:52] <Healot> MdSalih: hostname <new hostname>
[02:52] <plugins> healot: i have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:54] <plugins> healot?
[02:54] <Healot> plugins: remove the configuration
[02:54] <Bassetts> does anyone know of a xchat rythmbox plugin, like a now playing script for xchat
[02:54] <jrib> MdSalih: system > administration > networking > general
[02:54] <Healot> do it on the terminal manually...
[02:54] <plugins> healot :yes i comment it out okay?
[02:55] <HBuzacott> kill
[02:55] <HBuzacott> sorry wrong terminal
[02:55] <plugins> healot : done
[02:55] <plugins> healot : and now?
[02:55] <Healot> plugins: sure, then do the IP config manually, with ifconfig
[02:56] <plugins> cl8r tnx
[02:56] <krang> Healot: How do you auto-switch profiles?
[02:56] <Healot> krang: unfortunately, you don;t :(
[02:57] <Healot> look up at Mozilla website for that
[02:57] <Healot> perhaps with some firefox switches?
[02:58] <Ng> or firefox --help
[02:58] <Ng> which says you use "-P <profile>"
[02:58] <Ng> Bassetts: chances are you don't actually want that plugin - they tend to just annoy people ;)
[02:58] <Healot> there is such switch, NG?
[02:59] <Bassetts> Ng: i found one, its just for use in my own irc room with just friends in
[02:59] <Ng> Healot: I just said "firefox --help which says...", so yes ;)
[02:59] <Healot> NG, the -P switch
[02:59] <thoreauputic> Healot: yes - if you have two profiles named foo and bar you can say firefox -P foo
[03:00] <Healot> there you go krang
[03:00] <Ng> Healot: you can either read what I said originally or run "firefox --help" and see for yourself, I'm not going to keep saying it ;)
[03:00] <krang> Healot: cheers
[03:00] <finalbeta> I'm getting the error https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#head-f63b172ef162fdab65dae57bbd33e6df20ca4114 "1.2.2.1.1. Problems" describes, but I do not understand the sollution they recommend. I used the wl_apsta.o they recommend
[03:02] <plugins> guess whos back ...
[03:02] <Stork> jebus?
[03:03] <YoussefAssad> heh
[03:03] <Healot> NG, btw I haven't install firefox :0
[03:04] <knoppix> hi i was wondering if anyone was having problems with an ATI radeon X300 (PCI-E) in ubuntu
[03:04] <mgedmin> no, we're having problems with other ATI cards ;)
[03:05] <knoppix> lol
[03:05] <Healot> like everyone during the first time
[03:05] <plugins> healot?
[03:05] <knoppix> i can get into a console but cant start gdm/kdm i think
[03:05] <finalbeta> Yeah, mine where solved after updating a lib. seems there is a bug in the latest ati driver
[03:05] <plugins> healot?
[03:06] <afflux> morgen..
[03:06] <knoppix> how do i go about fixing this from the console?
[03:07] <mikearthur> knoppix: that you raggy?
[03:07] <knoppix> yup
[03:07] <finalbeta> for the ati problems, maybe this helps : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[03:07] <plugins> Healot? re:bluetooth?
[03:07] <mikearthur> Dapper seems to be really buggy compared to Breezty
[03:07] <mikearthur> Breezy
[03:07] <mikearthur> for installation
[03:08] <aMit--> Hello I'm having problem installing the NVIDIA driver... when I do this "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" I get this messege "Error: your X configuration has been altered."...
[03:08] <mikearthur> they should have delayed it more imo
[03:08] <Healot> plugins: have you set the IP manually yet?
[03:08] <knoppix> yeh i hate that i a "user friendly" linux is such a pain in the arse
[03:08] <plugins> healot: it didnt work
[03:08] <compengi> why when i search for a name in gaim it exits
[03:08] <plugins> pand --listen --role NAP --master --autozap
[03:08] <plugins> sudo ifconfig bnep0 192.168.1.1
[03:08] <plugins> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[03:08] <plugins> bnep0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:09] <plugins> :-(
[03:09] <knoppix> think i might stick with 5.10 for a while at least. but still dont know how to fix this prob
[03:09] <keithhhhh> Hey everyone, can someone tell me the name of the 3d desktop for linux?  I forgot  :S
[03:09] <finalbeta> compiz xgl
[03:09] <Healot> plugins: replug the dongle?
[03:09] <compengi> glx
[03:09] <aMit--> anyone?
[03:09] <plugins> 3ddesktop ;-)
[03:09] <keithhhhh> I remember xgl
[03:09] <plugins> plug and pray doesnt work
[03:10] <vesse> hello, desperately needing advice/help here... i've had Ubuntu 5.10 installed on a few years old setup running on SATA discs and software raid using mdadm package... for some days hdd has been read-only for programs started in X but worked fine from ssh, now I tried to reboot, and the result is "GRUB Error 18" which would indicate LBA problem but i've never had problems booting this machine before
[03:10] <mauricemoss> what does grub error 22 mean?
[03:10] <keithhhhh> is there more than one 3d desktop?
[03:11] <aMit--> can anyone see whats the problem? hen I do this "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" I get this messege "Error: your X configuration has been altered."
[03:11] <aMit--> when*
[03:11] <Healot> plugins: lookup at ubuntu's hardware HCL
[03:11] <Healot> !hardware
[03:11] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:11] <MusicEatingPanda> Hello all ^_^
[03:11] <plugins> Healot: cul8r
[03:11] <plugins> tnxalot
[03:12] <compengi> how can i make ubuntu read russian language
[03:12] <aMit--> guys?..
[03:12] <mikearthur> if no-one replies, no-one knows
[03:12] <MusicEatingPanda> I need a few bits of help I installed the win32 codecs and they work perfectly Tho when i updated them they stoped working SO i reinstalled the old version but ubuntu keeps wanting to update them how do i make it ignore this package as to not update it?
[03:12] <mikearthur> it means you've edited your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:12] <aMit--> erm, how do I restore the original then?
[03:13] <mikearthur> ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[03:13] <atsugnam> gah, my machine is trying to start pcmcia services, and hanging at that point, what can i do to stop it from trying to start it up?
[03:13] <aMit--> ok sec
[03:13] <atsugnam> it's a desktop, no pcmcia, so i can just turn it off
[03:14] <aMit--> mikearthur: gives me the same error still
[03:14] <MusicEatingPanda> Anyone?
[03:14] <mikearthur> no, whats the output from that command
[03:14] <mikearthur> MusicEatingPanda: remove the repositry, download the deb, install that
[03:14] <compengi> how can i make ubuntu read russian language
[03:14] <aMit--> . /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[03:14] <KenSentMe> !tell compengi about locales
[03:15] <MusicEatingPanda> mikearthur its a repo i need tho? and what is a Deb? im still learning
[03:15] <ice60> hi. does anyone here use Wine? i always thought it might use alot of resources and cause conflicts. is Wine OK to use? or does it commonly cause problems?
[03:16] <mjr> ice60, it's ok to use.
[03:16] <aMit--> mikearthur this was the output : /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[03:17] <YoussefAssad> ice60: second what mjr says
[03:17] <mjr> ice60, ie. it doesn't cause any problems aside from possibly buggy execution of Windows programs :] 
[03:17] <mikearthur> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <aMit--> same error
[03:19] <ice60> thanks, mjr and YoussefAssad. i'll try it out :) OT. is it possible to highlight two names in red ??
[03:19] <larson9999> ice60: i use it with firefox for shockwave sites.  no issues here.
[03:20] <ice60> larson9999: thanks :)
[03:20] <larson9999> ice60: and dvdshrink
[03:21] <ice60> i'm going to use Proxomitron. i think it's the best program ever. it's by far the best popup blocker. and can stop all browser exploits too
[03:21] <atsugnam> how do I stop ubuntu from loading pcmcia services?
[03:22] <finalbeta> On this page ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx )  to set up wireless I'm stuck at "1.2.2.1.1. Problems", but I do not understand the solllution
[03:23] <ice60> i'm using Breezy. should i install Wine from apt, or get the latest version from the website?
[03:23] <kazil> !restricted
[03:23] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:24] <atsugnam> how do I stop the system from trying to start pcmcia services?
[03:25] <emPol`ka> fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuc
[03:25] <emPol`ka> fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuc
[03:25] <bobstro> emPol`ka:  not now. daddy's busy.
[03:26] <Hobbsee> lovely piece of entertainment, that.
[03:27] <aMit--> alright I've got nvidia working , now how do I change the resolution for more then 1024x7** and the refresh rate to more then 85?
[03:28] <Timor^> Hi, need help with making a custom kernel. I just wanna add a value to the existing kernel, and compile it.
[03:29] <raphink> Timor^: did you read doc on the internet?
[03:29] <Healot> !info make-kpkg
[03:29] <Snow_Shelter> does anyone know when 2.6.17 will be out for PPC?
[03:29] <ubotu> Package make-kpkg does not exist in dapper
[03:29] <vieirar> HI I would like to change a an icon for all smb folders. I know I can do it by right clicking the folder=> properties and changing the icon. What I want is the default icon to be different. How can I change this?
[03:29] <aMit--> hi I've got nvidia drivers working, now how can I change to a resulution more then 1024*7xx and for higher refresh rate (100, all i have is 85)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: it edgy
[03:30] <kazil> what`s the default audio file type for ubuntu? ogg?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: in edgy
[03:30] <farous> can someone tell me why ubuntu is highly unstable nowdays. i lost sound with totem and the pc is really slow
[03:30] <Hobbsee> kazil: yeah
[03:30] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: in edgy?
[03:30] <Timor^> raphink: yeah.. but im still unsure
[03:30] <kazil> and whats the default video file type for ubuntu?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: yes, the release after dapper.  so in about october
[03:31] <Hobbsee> or november
[03:31] <Hobbsee> no, october, i cant count.
[03:31] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: will it be on the mirrors for Dapper?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: no
[03:31] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: why not?
[03:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there! i am a kde user, and i would like to try gnome. However i don't want to install all the applications in the gnome-desktop package... like totem or gstreamer.. what do i have to do to have ONLY the basic desktop working?
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: because kernels dont get backported, AFAIK
[03:32] <Fee^> so #ubuntu doesn't like /exec -o grep the * in the channel then? :P
[03:32] <Fee^> has anyone been able to successfully get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> Fee^: no, it may well get you banned for a while.
[03:32] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: so there will never be a 2.6.17 for Dapper, only for Edgy?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: that's correct
[03:32] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: that sucks
[03:32] <fletch_> excuse me, but is there a stored log of the startup process?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: unless you build it, of course
[03:32] <kazil> which windows prog can convert mp3 2 ogg?
[03:32] <jrib> Hi, I tried upgrading my tetex-base tetex-bin tetex-extra packages and it failed.  So I tried reinstalling and purging and installing, but it still fails.  Here is a pastebin of the install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16271 .  Also, when running pdflatex, it says it can't find pdflatex.fmt.  Any ideas?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> fletch_: yeah, dmesg?
[03:33] <aMit--> guys please , is there anyone who knows how to add resolutions and refresh rates?
[03:33] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: well I wanted wireless, and 2.6.17 is supposed to finally have support for bcm43xx
[03:33] <fletch_> Hobbsee, alright, i'll check it out
[03:33] <fresch> hi, i cannot get firefox-dom-inspector to install
[03:33] <jrib> ubotu: tell aMit-- about xorg
[03:33] <Timor^> could anyone help me compile my existing kernel, 2.6.15-23-server
[03:33] <MenZa> WHAT?!
[03:33] <MenZa> No 2.6.17 for Dapper :\?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> Snow_Shelter: you may be able to compile it and install it yourself, but...
[03:33] <Hobbsee> MenZa: no.  for edgy.
[03:33] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: yea, but all the kernels on Ubuntu mirrors are patched
[03:34] <Hobbsee> true
[03:34] <Snow_Shelter> Hobbsee: is there like an alpha for Edgy?
[03:34] <[4iT] >   =)
[03:34] <MenZa> Hobbsee: right.
[03:34] <MenZa> What's the Edgy releasedate?
[03:34] <YoussefAssad> MenZa: the ubuntu wiki has a nifty page on how to get the latest kernel
[03:34] <MenZa> I haven't been keeping up for very long ;)
[03:34] <leila> umm... silly question, but how do you read/write to floppy?
[03:34] <[4iT] >   ?
[03:34] <MenZa> YoussefAssad: I suppose :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> [4iT] : english only please
[03:34] <chavo> MenZa, 6.10
[03:34] <leila> !floppy
[03:34] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[03:34] <lasindi> MenZa: In October
[03:34] <mattyv> bcm4xx works under ndiswrapper, otherwise i wouldnt be typing this
[03:34] <[4iT] >   
[03:34] <khnh> hi guys, can anyone help me with bash scripting
[03:34] <Snow_Shelter> MenZa: looks like Dapper is obsolete already
[03:34] <MenZa> Snow_Shelter: it sure does.
[03:34] <chavo> dapper is so yesterday
[03:35] <lasindi> khnh: perhaps ... #bash is probably a better place to ask
[03:35] <khnh> thanks
[03:35] <fletch_> Hobbsee, is there anyway to halt the boot process to review some infortmation?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> fletch_: no idea...
[03:35] <solong> huahuaosx
[03:35] <leila> damn ubotu not giving me any info!
[03:35] <leila> :@
[03:35] <Hobbsee> solong: english only please
[03:35] <Seveas> solong, english please
[03:35] <chavo> khnh, there are some good tutorials out there also, try google
[03:35] <Healot> solong: please speak Chinese here
[03:35] <Healot> !zh
[03:35] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:35] <Timor^> Need help adding a value to my existing kernel and then compile it....
[03:36] <fletch_> Hobbsee, thanks anyway though, i think im in the right direction, im getting odd random numbers at my boot process, im going to restart and try to catch it
[03:36] <YoussefAssad> wow, rxvt displayed those chinese characters correctly!
[03:36] <YoussefAssad> this is so cool :)
[03:36] <Timor^> !info Compile kernel
[03:36] <ubotu> Package Compile does not exist in dapper
[03:36] <Magical1492> hey everyone, I have a hard drive issue that prevents me from Installing Ubuntu on my laptop, it came with three partitions, and I can't delete any without breaking my extended warranty, is anyone here fluient with using swap files or any other way to solve this?
[03:36] <Seveas> !kernel > Timor^
[03:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> again: hi there! i am a kde user, and i would like to try gnome. However i don't want to install all the applications in the gnome-desktop package... like totem or gstreamer.. what do i have to do to have ONLY the basic desktop working?
[03:37] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: install gnome-base maybe?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> the package is called gnome iirc
[03:38] <gnomefreak> it installs somethings that gnome needs but noting like ubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <fresch> how can i force a certain package to installed even if there are version conflicts=
[03:39] <aMit--> !tell aMit-- about xorg
[03:39] <gnomefreak> s/noting/nothing
[03:39] <Timor^> is it 2.6.17 the version of the kernel i should get ?
[03:39] <Timor^> even though im running a server version
[03:39] <gnomefreak> fresch: you really shouldnt what pacakge?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> Timor^: no stick with the one you have
[03:40] <gnomefreak> Timor^: safer that way ;)
[03:40] <fletch_> at startup, Ubuntu is flowing through the different startup processors, then the screen goes black and then theres a line of text saying "Differeneces (offset/backup)..." and below that is rows of string of numbers and letters... anybody experience this?
[03:40] <fresch> gnomefreak, i want to install firefox-dom-inspector, but it fails with version conflict. but when i apt-cache show firefox and apt-cache show firefox-dom-inspector the version are the same. only wehen i apt-get install firefox-dom-inspectior it fails
[03:41] <Timor^> :D
[03:41] <gnomefreak> fresch: are you on dapper?
[03:41] <KenSentMe> Is there a way to put media files show up on the desktop by a certain icon and not showing a miniature of the movie/pdf/picture?
[03:41] <fresch> gnomefreak, yes
[03:41] <gnomefreak> fresch: did you install mozilla's version of ff or just the one that came with dapper?
[03:42] <michaels> is it 100% safe to resize my partitions (say by shrinking the NTFS partition and making the ext3 partition bigger) using GParted?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> michaels: no
[03:42] <KenSentMe> michaels: no, it's not 100%
[03:42] <michaels> what can happen?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> michaels: the tools are safe but the user is never 100% safe
[03:42] <fresch> gnomefreak, didn't install firefox, so it's the one that was preinstalled
[03:42] <gnomefreak> michaels: you can lose all data
[03:42] <KenSentMe> michaels: lose data
[03:42] <Healot> michaels: not 100%, but most of the time, it is safe
[03:42] <michaels> and what would need to happen for me to lose data?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> fresch: try to get the .deb for it from packages.ubuntu.com
[03:42] <kazil> wtf???!!! a song in mp3 5MB, and the same in ogg 11MB?!
[03:43] <fresch> gnomefreak, firefox, or firefox-dom-insp=
[03:43] <Healot> kazil: take a look at the compression and quality
[03:43] <gnomefreak> fresch: dom-insp
[03:44] <alth_> Quick problem, when I set my terminal window to transparant, underneath it shows my desktop, even if it's on top of another window. Any way to fix this?
[03:44] <Raito> I have a question, how do you navigate through folders with spaces in them while in the command line? If I type a space it thinks that I am trying to type a different command
[03:44] <kazil> healot: but still it`s more than 50%
[03:44] <jrib> Hi, I tried upgrading my tetex-base tetex-bin tetex-extra packages and it failed.  So I tried reinstalling and purging and installing, but it still fails.  Here is a pastebin of the install: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16271 .  Also, when running pdflatex, it says it can't find pdflatex.fmt.  Any ideas?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> can someone with kernel 2.6.15-25 tell me what version of gnome they have on dapper?
[03:44] <Ng> Raito: put the whole path in "" or put \ before the space
[03:45] <Raito> thanks
[03:45] <fresch> gnomefreak, there are two versions  of dom-insp. how can i make apt install one i want?
[03:45] <michaels> gnomefreak, KenSentMe: in what kind of case would I lose data?
[03:45] <Ng> gnomefreak: 2.14.2
[03:45] <gnomefreak> fresch: it should grab newest one
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ng ty
[03:46] <fresch> gnomefreak, it installes the older firefox, but then tries to install the newest dom-insp.
[03:47] <Magical1492> Can anyone help me use a swap file and put Linux on only one partiton?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> fresch: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:47] <fresch> gnomefreak, already done that
[03:47] <gnomefreak> fresch: let me know if anything gets held back
[03:47] <neotard> Magical1492:  if you mean ubuntu, when you do the install just choose the automatic partition.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> fresch: also what version of ff are you using?
[03:48] <scott> hi guys :) (and gals ;))
[03:48] <planetcall> goodevening all
[03:48] <finalbeta> On this page ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx )  to set up wireless I'm stuck at "1.2.2.1.1. Problems", but I do not understand the solllution
[03:48] <Magical1492> ok
[03:48] <neotard> Magical1492:  linux uses no swap file, but instead has a swap partition.
[03:48] <Timor^> gnomefreak: i dont have the debian/config/i386 directory, why ?
[03:48] <fresch> gnomefreak, held back: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[03:48] <Magical1492> thats my problem
[03:48] <gnomefreak> Timor^: dont know
[03:48] <neotard> Magical1492:  ?
[03:48] <Magical1492> My Laptop that I want to install it comes with three partitions already.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> fresch: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <planetcall> any C# guy here ?
[03:48] <Magical1492> And if I take one out of the harddrive, then I lose my limited warranty
[03:48] <alth_> Hrrm, no one knows how to fix my transparency problem?
[03:48] <Magical1492> errr.. extended
[03:48] <gnomefreak> planetcall: try #ubuntu-offtopic or a programming channel
[03:49] <scott> alth? what problems?
[03:49] <Timor^> gnomefreak; do i have to use the sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 ?
[03:49] <fresch> gnomefreak, same thig
[03:49] <fresch> gnomefreak, *thing
[03:49] <planetcall> gnomefreak, I want someone C# geek from here to help me on #ubuntu-offtopic  as i dont find anyone in C# active
[03:49] <fer5437> anyone can tell me what differint between network backup and centerlize backup??
[03:49] <neotard> Magical1492:  I'd check your warranty then a little further.  it could very well be installing linux on it will void the warranty as well.  if you're worried about it.
[03:49] <gnomefreak> fresch: uname -r what does it say
[03:49] <alth_> scott: My terminal window's transparancy is transparant to the desktop, not to any windows in the way. And it's not actually transparant to the icons on the desktop, so I don't know what it's doing.
[03:50] <alth_> Basically, instead of showing underneath the window, IRC for instance, it shows my wallpaper.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> planetcall: try in #ubuntu-offtopic the coders normally hang in there
[03:50] <planetcall> already there :)
[03:50] <gnomefreak> i saw sorry
[03:50] <Magical1492> well, I specifically asked them about that, and they said that ONLY if I didn't disrupt any of the partitions that were premade, it would be ok.
[03:50] <planetcall> alth_, the transparency in Gnome is not the true one you are looking for !
[03:50] <neotard> alth_:  that's the nature of X :)  it's called pseudo-transparancy.
[03:50] <fresch> gnome-freak, dist-upgrade now installs these two previously held back packages
[03:50] <alth_> Well that sucks.
[03:51] <ProfessorChaos_> hello all I have an ibm thinkpad t43p and I can't seem to get the pcmcia slot working
[03:51] <scott> alth goto edit->current profile
[03:51] <planetcall> alth_, wait for next major release ! :) you will have it
[03:51] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks, anybody knows some DJ software (mixer) using GUI to install on ubuntu Dapper ?
[03:51] <scott> Alth then effect
[03:51] <scott> s
[03:51] <gnomefreak> fresch: i was hoping for that let me know after you reboot if you can install it or not
[03:51] <scott> and select background, none
[03:51] <planetcall> CodeWarrior_, did you search Synaptic ?
[03:51] <fer5437> anyone can tell me what differint between network backup and centerlize backup??
[03:51] <B68ari> why cant i hear any music when i play an audio CD ?
[03:51] <fresch> gnomefreak,  reboot???
[03:51] <gnomefreak> fresch: yes
[03:51] <fer5437> anyone can tell me what different between network backup and centerlize backup??
[03:51] <Timor^> Why dont i have the deabian/config/i386 directory, do i have to use the sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 ? to compile my kernel.. im not even using the 2..6.17 kernel..im using 2.6.15-23-server kernel
[03:51] <gnomefreak> fresch: when you install the new kernel you need to reboot
[03:52] <fresch> gnomefreak,  only if i want to load it?
[03:52] <CodeWarrior_> planetcall: to say the truth, not yet. I want an opinion about some guy that using some good DJ software
[03:52] <gnomefreak> fresch: for the update to take affect yes
[03:52] <Alth> scott: What could will that do?
[03:52] <Alth> planetcall: I'd rather not wait six months for Edgy :P
[03:52] <B68ari> why cant i hear any music when i play an audio CD ?
[03:52] <mgedmin> four months
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Alth: you will when you use it you will wish you waited
[03:52] <neotard> Magical1492:  ok, then you need to know what partition that is :)  you *will* need a swap partition though.  when you install choose manual partition and choose the target install partition and change that to a filesystem format (should happen automatically) then choose to format it
[03:52] <mgedmin> edgy is scheduled for October, isn't it
[03:52] <gnomefreak> oct
[03:53] <gnomefreak> oct 26 atm
[03:53] <scott> Alth will make it so that your console is transparant to your desktop
[03:53] <fresch> gnomefreak, so how is upgrading my kernel a reason for firefox-dom-inspector not beeing installed?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> that will change (more than likely)
[03:53] <Timor^> gnomefreak Why dont i have the deabian/config/i386 directory, do i have to use the sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17 ? to compile my kernel.. im not even using the 2..6.17 kernel..im using 2.6.15-23-server kernel
[03:53] <batte> !nvidia
[03:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <Magical1492> I have three partitions on my harddrive now, doesn't Linux need two partitions?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> fresch: we are trying it
[03:53] <neotard> Magical1492:  you will need to do that for a swap partition too.  although if your partitions are very big I can't see how you're goign to get around not screwing with the partitions on the drive
[03:53] <Magical1492> yeah
[03:53] <Magical1492> I was told that there was something called a swap file
[03:53] <B68ari> no please dont ever bother to answer my question
[03:53] <Magical1492> I could use
[03:54] <gnomefreak> B68ari: wont now
[03:54] <Magical1492> XD
[03:54] <neotard> Magical1492:  sorry, idk.  maybe someone else does.  windows uses a swap file, linux uses a swap partition.
[03:54] <B68ari> why cant i hear any music when i play an audio CD ?
[03:54] <tobberoth> How do I use the USB capabilities of an Ipod shuffle on Ubuntu??
[03:54] <Alth> scott: Well, actually, it just gave me a solid background ;)
[03:54] <gnomefreak> B68ari: you have to understand there are over 800 people in here
[03:54] <fresch> gnomefreak, i can tell you for sure that a reboot will not make any difference ;) and i can tell you now, that even if i would reboot firefox-dom-inspector would still not be installed
[03:54] <Magical1492> ah, ok.
[03:54] <scott> Alth i thought thats what you wanted? not a see through backjground to your desktop?
[03:54] <Magical1492> thanks anyway.
[03:54] <gnomefreak> fresch: you say that like you know what the problem is
[03:55] <B68ari> alright.....
[03:55] <neotard> Magical1492:  hmm, you could have something though
[03:55] <Alth> No no Scott, I /want/ the transparancy, just so that I see what's under the window :P
[03:55] <Magical1492> hmm>
[03:55] <Magical1492> What do you mean?
[03:55] <neotard> Magical1492:  been a couple years since I've dug into a linux :)
[03:55] <gnomefreak> B68ari: now try asking you question and if someone knows they will try to help you
[03:56] <scott> Alth :O, you cant do that, not with composit i believe
[03:56] <kbrosnan> fresch, is there any chance you are using mozilla's firefox and not ubuntu's? help -> about firefox (if the page says ubuntu anywhere it is ubuntu's)
[03:56] <fresch> gnomefreak, the problem is that apt  installs the older version of firefox, but then tries to install the newer version of firefox-dom-insp. which depends on the newer version of firefox, which apt will not install... for what ever reason...
[03:56] <gnomefreak> fresch: what version of ff do you have (i asked you this before never got an answer)
[03:57] <gnomefreak> fresch: ill brb i need to see if i fixed this gnome thing :(
[03:57] <pain> sa va
[03:57] <Alth> Apparently so, Scott.
[03:57] <Alth> Ok, night guys then.
[03:57] <neotard> Magical1492:  you could definitely try to install w/o a swap space then do that :)
[03:57] <roland-erau> ca va bien
[03:57] <Timor^> why cant i compile my kernel, the debian directory isnt even installed..
[03:57] <fresch> gnomefreak, 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3
[03:57] <Magical1492> ok
[03:57] <Magical1492> I'll try that.
[03:57] <Magical1492> thank you
[03:57] <pain> koi de neuf ???
[03:59] <Devil_Hunter> Hello
[03:59] <Devil_Hunter> Does anybody know if ubuntu supports Dell Poweredge 2400?
[03:59] <Seveas> Devil_Hunter, it should
[03:59] <Timor^> i found it strange that noone ever compiled a custom kernel in ubuntu
[04:00] <neotard> Devil_Hunter:  a better question is does it support the components in your computer
[04:00] <Seveas> Timor^, there's hardly any need for it anymore...
[04:00] <Timor^> Seveas: well, to change the tic you need to make a custom kernel
[04:00] <Timor^> hz=1000
[04:01] <spacey> Timor^: its really easy to compile a custom kernel
[04:01] <spacey> well if you have to patch it as well it might get a bit more tricky
[04:01] <Timor^> spacey: share your knowledge then
[04:01] <Devil_Hunter> because at the store they told me that they tried the server with slackware and it didnt worked well so im wondering if ubuntu could possibly support the components in it
[04:01] <spacey> Timor^: just apt-get source the kernel and follow the steps on the wiki to make your own package
[04:01] <Seveas> Timor^, a while ago ubotu should have sent you instructions
[04:01] <Seveas> !kernel > Timor^
[04:02] <spacey> !kernel > spacey
[04:02] <Timor^> but it says that the package doesnt exist when i type my kernel
[04:02] <xCling> I have really strange problem, when I have the terminal oppen and want to sigh in as root I type "su" and Im 100% shore I type the right password and its still say I typing the wrong password?
[04:02] <spacey> type your kernel?
[04:03] <neotard> Devil_Hunter:  everyones mileage varies.  I had a friend tell me ubuntu didn't work, but he loves slackware on his dell laptop.. *shrug*
[04:03] <Timor^> 2.6.15-23-server
[04:03] <neotard> xCling:  ubuntu does not enable root by default.  you can use sudo to carry out root commands.
[04:04] <spacey> Timor^: apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-25-server
[04:04] <Seveas> !root > xCling
[04:04] <neotard> Seveas:  is there a list of those? :D
[04:04] <aMit--> Hello I'm having problem with my audio device, I get this error when double clicking the volume icon in the top panel "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", please help.
[04:04] <dgl> Hi, I ve done something wrong with grub and now my ubuntu is not loading, does anybody can help me?
[04:05] <neotard> nm, found it
[04:05] <Timor^> will the 15-25 work even though im running 15-23
[04:05] <Seveas> ubotu, tell neotard about yourself
[04:05] <gnomefreak> dgl: what did you do to grub?
[04:06] <dgl> gnomefreak, I guess that I add wrong partions to load
[04:06] <Timor^> spacey: how did you find that package ?
[04:06] <Timor^> is there a list ?
[04:06] <spacey> Timor^: apt-cache search
[04:06] <xCling> neotard: how do u mean I gone use sudo fore a root command ? can u give me an exampel ?
[04:06] <ice60> hi, can someone show me where the Ubuntu image is kept? the one next to Applications, Places and System in Gnome. thanks
[04:06] <scott> xCling, sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Timor^: the update-manager will tell you what needs to be updated
[04:06] <dgl> gnomefreak, does have a way to clear all configurations and start from 0 again?
[04:07] <Timor^> spacey: thanks for your time.. ill try compiling the kernel now
[04:07] <spacey> Timor^: you can probably get -23 as well, its just that the last version is -25, which showed up in my list
[04:07] <aMit--> guys, I'm having problem with my audio device, in the login page when i start my computer i can hear sound but in the whole system i cant
[04:07] <neotard> xCling:  check the msg ubotu sent you
[04:07] <gnomefreak> dgl: not sure if grub-install will do that but if not than i think your gonna have to change it by hand to boot the right partition
[04:08] <Timor^> spacey: where is the work directory then ?
[04:08] <Timor^> spacey: i dont even have the debian directory
[04:08] <dgl> gnomefreak, no problem to this by hand, but how can I remove all old configuration?
[04:08] <Ng> ice60: /usr/share/icons/Human/48x48/places/distributor-logo.png
[04:08] <popey> What's the official position on automatix?
[04:09] <Ng> !automatix
[04:09] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[04:09] <ice60> Ng: thanks :D
[04:09] <spacey> Timor^: if you apt-get source the kernel package the debian directory is in the kernel source dir
[04:09] <popey> ok, ta
[04:09] <xCling> neotard: Thank you I will check it out
[04:09] <spacey> which will end up in your current working directory
[04:09] <aMit--> anybody knows how to solve my problem? ( can hear sounds in the login page but not in the system )
[04:09] <Ng> ice60: or there's /usr/share/icons/Tangerine/scalable/places/distributor-logo.svg, which might be more useful if you want the logo bigger
[04:09] <gnomefreak> dgl: open /boot/grub/menu.lst using sudo <texteditor> paththat i gave you and go to the part you need to change and delete the borked part and type new one in
[04:09] <neotard> xCling:  don't thank me, thank Seveas :)
[04:09] <gnomefreak> dgl: than run grub-update
[04:10] <dgl> gnomefreak, can't I use grub command line?
[04:10] <xCling> Thank Seveas :)
[04:10] <gnomefreak> dgl: everything i gave you was from cli
[04:11] <planetcall> aMit--, System>Preference>sound   Try it
[04:11] <javiolo> how do I install a deb and it dependences ?
[04:11] <ice60> Ng: thanks. i'm looking now. i replaced it with a different Ubuntu icon and i just want to back it up to a floppy. when i find it i'll show it to you if you like then you can use it too. it's much better then the default 8)
[04:11] <javiolo> i tried sudo dpkg -i aa.deb but it says it needs other packages
[04:12] <planetcall> javiolo, dpkg -i
[04:12] <Ng> javiolo: double click on it in nautilus, gdebi will launch and install it and satisfy dependencies
[04:12] <Ng> javiolo: or apt-get the things dpkg says it needs first
[04:12] <dgl> gnomefreak, do u know a way using GRUB command line?
[04:12] <Ng> ooh, apparently you can use gdebi from a terminal too
[04:12] <javiolo> ng all the packages are in the same folder
[04:12] <planetcall> javiolo, if you could find that deb file or the application in repository then better install it from that.
[04:12] <gnomefreak> dgl: what do you mean?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> what is grub command line
[04:13] <Ng> javiolo: in that case you can pass them all to dpkg, so "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb foo2.deb"
[04:13] <javiolo> planetcall no way to install from repos, I have created "myself" the debs
[04:13] <aMit--> planetcall: in the bottom of the window I cannot choose any device
[04:13] <dgl> gnomefreak, when u just type 'grub' or press c on grub menu
[04:13] <gnomefreak> dgl: the commands i gave you are for the command line to open grubs config file
[04:13] <fresch> gnomefreak, it's the ubuntu firefox
[04:13] <ice60> can't find it >:( i'm using Breezy
[04:14] <Timor^> spacey: how do i add the hz=1000 value ?..with bsd i only needed to add Options HZ=1000
[04:14] <Timor^> spacey: how do i add the hz=1000 value ?..with bsd i only needed to add Options HZ=1000
[04:14] <gnomefreak> fresch: what version go to help about ff
[04:14] <Timor^> is it the same
[04:14] <dgl> gnomefreak, yes, i know, but I cant boot the system, I dont got a command line to work...
[04:14] <gnomefreak> ohhhhh
[04:14] <fresch> gnomefreak, 1.5.0.4
[04:14] <gnomefreak> dgl: use a live cd
[04:14] <dgl> gnomefreak, if u press 'c' at grub menu, on boot, u go to a grub shell
[04:15] <xCling> woho now I know how the sudo and root stuff work :D
[04:15] <aMit--> planetcall?
[04:15] <dgl> gnomefreak, ok, but grub has a shell to type commands, I want to use that because its is very easy to get to this commando line
[04:15] <gnomefreak> fresch: than it might be built for 1.5.0.3 im thinking to get that you will need to install that version of ff easily done from the wiki
[04:16] <dgl> gnomefreak, grub interactive shelll
[04:16] <gnomefreak> dgl: when did grub get its own shell?
[04:16] <dgl> just press 'c' at grub menu
[04:16] <jrib> Hi can anyone here with a working tetex installation on dapper tell me the result of this: md5sum /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf
[04:16] <gnomefreak> dgl: you mean when you boot and grub comes up you type e?
[04:16] <monkkey> hello, I was running a smooth ubuntu/kubuntu install, put in another graphics card (pci) to run in conjunction with my avg card in windows (dual boot), made no change to my ubuntu install, have removed the pci card now. But kubuntu when loaded will complete all the inital checks and loading of the kernal, then will simply display the kubuntu logo and do nothing else. I changed no settings. It is as it once was. any suggestions??
[04:16] <spacey> Timor^: dunno where you can set it.
[04:16] <dgl> gnomefreak, tyep 'c'
[04:16] <dgl> gnomefreak, type 'c'
[04:16] <gnomefreak> dgl: if grub isnt showing a menu thats not gonna help
[04:16] <gnomefreak> dgl: yes i meant c
[04:17] <compengi> where can i get ubuntu's russian unicode?
[04:17] <dgl> gnomefreak, grub show a menu, but all entries doest not wokr
[04:17] <dgl> gnomefreak, I want to remove all entries and start from begin
[04:17] <bud_resin> when you go to places->computer where does nautilus get the info to display drives and such?
[04:18] <babo> skype tells me that there is a 'problem with the sound device' I'm want to run windows under qemu anyway. Will windows work ok with skype or does the guest OS use the host OS sound config, and thus it won't work anyway ... ?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> dgl: than reboot type c when the menu comes up or grab a live cd or reinstall ubuntu
[04:18] <gnomefreak> dgl: or do it the way i told you above
[04:18] <gnomefreak> depending if you on ubuntu or windows
[04:18] <dgl> gnomefreak, but I does not know how to use this grub command line
[04:18] <dgl> gnomefreak, I am trying to read documentation, but its hard
[04:19] <void^> dgl: it's exactly the same commands as in menu.lst/grub.conf
[04:19] <dgl> gnomefreak, I does not know if I need to remove old entries and how to do it
[04:19] <gnomefreak> dgl: use the regular linux terminal and type what i told you to in it
[04:19] <gnomefreak> that will bring up the config file for grub and you edit it there
[04:19] <dgl> void^, ok, but do I need to remove old entries and how to do that?
[04:20] <fresch> gnomefreak, i downloaded the deb package for firefox-dom-i and used dpkg -i to install it, without any trouble. thanks for your patience ;).
[04:20] <void^> dgl: you do that as gnomefreak told you, by editing the menu.lst file
[04:20] <compengi> where can i get ubuntu's russian unicode?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> fresch: i didnt think you would fresch you also could have gotten it from tool add-ons in the menu
[04:21] <void^> dgl: the grub commandline is just useful if you're unsure about the correct parameters (it has tab completion)
[04:21] <dgl> void^, is this the only way? Can it be by grub command line?
[04:21] <ice60> i found it 8) it's here /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png i uploaded too so you can all use it too http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2920/distributorlogo6ic.png
[04:21] <fresch> gnomefreak, i still would like to know why apt fails to see/register there is a newer version for ff-dom-i?
[04:21] <microsoft_> hmm
[04:21] <Krhis> Wow, so what do yo guys think of this? http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Kubuntu_Dapper_Drake_COMPLETE_sources.list_(repository_list_file)
[04:22] <void^> dgl: what's the problem? you can boot it by hand using the commandline. and if it boots you know the proper commands, just put them into your menu.lst
[04:22] <Krhis> lots of unoffical sources.
[04:22] <dgl> void^, my main doubt is: how to remove old entries?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> fresch: dont know file a bug i guess
[04:22] <dgl> void^, sorry, how can I boot by hand using command line?
[04:22] <void^> dgl: by deleting the lines? first add (and test) your new entry before you go on a deleting spree though.
[04:22] <fresch> gnomefreak, and that was actually my main agenda coming here... so, thanks again...
[04:22] <microsoft_> haha
[04:22] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:23] <compengi> wow we have microsoft here
[04:23] <microsoft_> bill gates himselves
[04:23] <void^> dgl: by entering the commands.. root hd(x,y), kernel /boot/blag, initrd /boot/blah, boot (use tab completion)
[04:23] <compengi> lolo
[04:23] <microsoft_> gun...
[04:23] <Krhis> I know, I saw Bill gates in here a whilte ago ^^
[04:23] <dgl> void^, thanks a lot
[04:23] <Krhis> while*
[04:23] <dgl> void^, I am having some troubles with raid 1
[04:23] <compengi> all ubuntu's fire on microsoft
[04:23] <Krhis> O.o He might like that
[04:23] <void^> dgl: hardware raid?
[04:23] <dgl> void^, software
[04:23] <Rambo3> its just a bit of attention who***
[04:24] <void^> dgl: separate non-raid boot partition?
[04:24] <Krhis> I'll give $5 to anyone who goes into #windows and asks for a keygen to get past activation. XD
[04:24] <dgl> void^, I am trying to make grub boot from boot hds
[04:24] <microsoft_> i dont know what i do so i'm called your opponent
[04:24] <babo> Your audio capture settings are invalid, pls change them in multimedia settings ?
[04:24] <infinity_> krhis ill do it lmao
[04:24] <jrib> )
[04:24] <Krhis> lol
[04:24] <dgl> void^, raid 1, boot at a raid partition
[04:24] <compengi> lol
[04:24] <gnomefreak> microsoft_: if you rnot here for ubuntu support please join #uubntu-offtopic
[04:24] <dgl> void^, boot from raid partition
[04:24] <Rambo3> bit much of OT here ?
[04:24] <dgl> void^, all was working fine after instalation
[04:25] <infinity_> btw neone here kno if i can run my existing windows installation through a vmware ?
[04:25] <void^> dgl: that should be fine, raid1 is just mirror so grub should be able to read each of the raided partitions as if they were ordinary single non-raid partitions.
[04:25] <dawson> whats the command for editing xserver??? thanks
[04:25] <babo> guys where is my multimedia settings ?
[04:25] <Rambo3> infinity_: no
[04:25] <gnomefreak> dawson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <dgl> void^, but I need to install grub at /dev/sdb MBR
[04:26] <scott> gnomefreak, why not just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> scott: either way
[04:26] <dgl> void^, dont?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> it was the first one that came to mind
[04:26] <infinity_> rambo3: lol is there any possible way to do it?
[04:26] <scott> gnomefreak, suppose first method is easier
[04:26] <Rambo3> infinity_: get xp cd
[04:26] <dgl> void^, I need grub to be installed at /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[04:27] <gnomefreak> i dont know what level the users are at thats why that one always comes to mind first (i do it both ways)
[04:27] <xbeanx> I'm having trouble installing firefox dom inspector..  I get this error: firefox-dom-inspector: Depends: firefox (= 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3) but 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 is to be installed
[04:27] <babo> my multimedia settings ? where are they  ? ... pls
[04:27] <xbeanx> Anybody know how I can fix this?
[04:27] <void^> dgl: why do you need it on 2 mbrs?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> xbeanx: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download and install the .deb
[04:28] <xbeanx> thanks gnomefreak
[04:28] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:28] <gnomefreak> xbeanx: maybe easier to get it from your ff menu
[04:28] <dgl> void^, if I lost first hd that system must boot using the second one
[04:28] <dgl> void^, so, I need grub at both mbr
[04:29] <gnomefreak> sorry void^ lol
[04:29] <dgl> void^, dont I?
[04:29] <void^> dgl: fine, just run root (hd0,x), setup (hd0), root (hd1,x), setup (hd1), or something like that
[04:29] <dgl> void^, I guess I did that... so the system stop booting :(
[04:29] <mike---> quick question -- just got my wireless card up and running, but I need a utility to let me see available networks.  would network-manager do the job?
[04:29] <Rambo3> dgl: are you running any raid  ?
[04:29] <Tata_Morky> je tu nejaky Cech?
[04:30] <dgl> Rambo3, yes, raid 1
[04:30] <xbeanx> gnomefreak: never thought of that.. thanks
[04:30] <gnomefreak> yw'
[04:30] <dgl> void^, I ve tried to reinstall all the system.. but the problem persist...
[04:30] <Jessehk> My Windows installation is giving me problems on a duel boot. Would a re-installation mess up GRUB?
[04:30] <Rambo3> well wouldent raid copy grub mbr from first to mirroring hd ?
[04:30] <dgl> void^, I guess that this problem is something at mbr
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Jessehk: yes re-installing winxp only will than use the ntlder instead of grub but have a look at the links that follow
[04:31] <gnomefreak> !grub
[04:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:31] <Tata_Morky> halo je tu nejaky cech, potrebuji help
[04:31] <gnomefreak> !cz
[04:31] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[04:31] <gnomefreak> Tata_Morky: ^^
[04:31] <dgl> Rambo3, I ve tried remove first hd just to see if it was working
[04:32] <Jessehk> gnomefreak : Excellent. Thanks :)
[04:32] <dgl> Rambo3, and it wasnt
[04:32] <gnomefreak> Jessehk: yw ;)
[04:32] <hompi> Hi, ive got a problem. Ubuntu cant find my non-wireless network card. "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller", anyone got a idea how i can install this?
[04:33] <dgl> Rambo3, I ve readed something saying that I should manualy install grub at both mbr
[04:33] <hompi> anyone?
[04:33] <Rambo3> dgl yeah that sounds ok
[04:33] <Jessehk> gnomefreak : So I don't lose the partition, I just lose access to it?
[04:33] <dgl> gnomefreak, I was trying this, but system does not boot anyway
[04:33] <gnomefreak> Jessehk: im pretty sure yes
[04:33] <void^> dgl: but you're getting the grub menu and command line, so grub loads ok. what you need to check if your menu.lst.
[04:33] <compengi> who knows russian here
[04:34] <dgl> void^, yes, your are right
[04:34] <dgl> void^, I will try this
[04:34] <gnomefreak> !ru
[04:34] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[04:34] <gnomefreak> there you go compengi
[04:34] <compengi> lol
[04:34] <hompi> Hi, ive got a problem. Ubuntu cant find my non-wireless network card. "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller", anyone got a idea how i can install this?
[04:34] <compengi> i only asked
[04:34] <compengi> i don't want a russian help
[04:34] <Rambo3> dgl can you use grub-install , and edit devices file and remove comment out first disk, then grub-install at second and then uncommnt first hd
[04:34] <mephis1987> hello , i am new to ubuntu , can you advise me what is the best IDE for Java ?
[04:34] <rendo> How do I see what program/device is using my soundcard currently?  I can't play music since something else is using it.
[04:35] <void^> mephis1987: eclipse
[04:35] <dgl> Rambo3, I was trying just to remove the first hd using BIOS Setup
[04:35] <mephis1987> void^: i installed eclisp and it says eclisp is obsolete
[04:35] <babo> Guys, I can hear with my speakers but I can't other people can't hear me. I've changed the alsa mixer to allow the speakers to work ... can anyone help here ? ... PLS ?
[04:36] <babo> s/speakers/microphone/
[04:36] <babo> Your audio capture settings are invalid, pls change them in multimedia settings ?
[04:36] <void^> mephis1987: eh.. if you installed an old version of eclipse you can update.
[04:37] <rendo> How do I see what program/device is using my soundcard currently?  I can't play music since something else is using it.
[04:37] <Hoxzer_> Use alsa :)
[04:37] <Hoxzer_> BUt tell me if u get ts2 to work with alsa
[04:38] <groundstate> Hi.  I'm having a problem with a new ubuntu installation.  network-admin does not alter the iwconfig settings at all.  (zd1211 driver)
[04:38] <Hexidigital_> Hoxzer_:: i had no luck with ts2 with alsa
[04:38] <mephis1987> !java
[04:38] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[04:38] <Rambo3> man fuser
[04:39] <Hoxzer_> Hexidigital_: me either :( just makes me ask "WHY WHY NOT SUPPORT ALSA!?"
[04:39] <Rambo3> rendo: man fuser
[04:39] <Hoxzer_> like I can't play anything with linux because I can't run TS
[04:39] <rendo> Thank you.
[04:39] <Hexidigital_> Hoxzer_:: i know... what do they support? OSS? or OOS? whatever it's called?
[04:39] <Hoxzer_> :/ I dont think they support really anything
[04:39] <dsas> It's OSS
[04:40] <Hexidigital_> thanks dsas
[04:40] <rendo> Uh... Fuser doesn't help me.
[04:40] <garar> hi
[04:41] <garar> how can I change gamma in Gnome?
[04:41] <Hexidigital_> Hoxzer_:: the irony is that ts2 has a server version for linux :-D but you can't use alsa
[04:41] <Hexidigital_> Hoxzer_:: which means, using oss, which means messing up your entire sound configuration
[04:41] <Panzerboy> hey guys
[04:41] <Panzerboy> quick question
[04:41] <Hexidigital_> quicker answer
[04:41] <cute_bettong> !hardware
[04:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:42] <Panzerboy> what's the name of the kernel source package in dapper?
[04:42] <Panzerboy> Hexidigital_: :)
[04:42] <Hexidigital_> ok... not so quicker :)
[04:42] <dsas> Panzerboy: kernel-source-2.4.27
[04:42] <billybennett> Can someone explain to me how I can make Mplayer my default DVD player when I pop in the disk?
[04:43] <Panzerboy> dsas: i am running the 2.6.15
[04:43] <Panzerboy> so i need the sources for that one
[04:43] <Seveas> Pand0ra, linux-source-2.6.15
[04:43] <Panzerboy> obviously
[04:43] <Seveas> Panzerboy*
[04:43] <Panzerboy> Seveas: 10x
[04:43] <dsas> whoops. looking at the wrong box.
[04:44] <Panzerboy> :)
[04:44] <Hexidigital_> Panzerboy:: will a quazi-quick answer suffice ?
[04:44] <Raul654> I have a quick question about the Dapper Drake installation CDs. Is the desktop CD a live CD, or an installation CD?
[04:44] <Panzerboy> Raul654: both
[04:44] <Raul654> ah, ok
[04:44] <zec> A very simple question: what are the command line tools for viewing/setting services in Ubuntu? Like rc-status and rc-update in Gentoo?
[04:44] <Panzerboy> Hexidigital_: would be very good, thanks :)
[04:44] <Hexidigital_> :)
[04:45] <Raul654> one more question - what are the big differences between the server and desktop installation CD? sshd/apache/gcc ?
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> Raul654:: desktop provides a GUI
[04:45] <groundstate> second question: if I get no answer here, is there a better channel to ask about bugs on?
[04:45] <Panzerboy> Raul654: umm, i assume the server doesn't have gnome :)
[04:45] <priich> billybennet: go to system/preferenses/removable drives and media in menus, then multimedia tab
[04:45] <Raul654> Ah, ok
[04:45] <Jessehk> Is it safe to use apt-get clean or will it cause problems?
[04:45] <Raul654> thanks, that's what I needed
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> Raul654:: they can both do the same things
[04:45] <Panzerboy> Raul654: u're welcome
[04:46] <Panzerboy> Hexidigital_: don't confuse the guy :)
[04:46] <Raul654> Hexi - yes, I know both can do the same thing with enough work. I'm trying to minimize the work :)
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> Raul654:: ah, i see
[04:46] <billybennett> thank you priich
[04:46] <Hexidigital_> Panzerboy:: the n00b bug has me today... i'm awake for 27 + hours
[04:47] <Hexidigital_> Jessehk:: what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <Panzerboy> Hexidigital_: then u should get some sleep
[04:47] <Hexidigital_> Panzerboy:: as soon as i finish this last beer :-P
[04:48] <Jessehk> Hexidigit_ : I just thought it deletes temperary package downloads (like clearing a cache), but I don't want to delete anythin necessary.
[04:48] <Jessehk> the man discription isn't very clear
[04:48] <Hexidigital_> Jessehk:: i suggest you read this
[04:48] <Hexidigital_> !apt
[04:48] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[04:49] <Gorg2> I need help, when I try to install Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop, it gets to the location selection, and hangs.  How do I fix it so I can install?
[04:49] <Hexidigital_> Jessehk:: also, if you press TAB after typing the first few characters of a username, it will autocomplete
[04:49] <Hexidigital_> Jessehk:: (depending on your client)
[04:49] <Panzerboy> heh
[04:50] <Panzerboy> typing it by hand though is more 1337 :)
[04:50] <Jessehk> Hexidigital_, yup, it works. Better then typing out the name every bloody time ;)
[04:50] <Hexidigital_> Jessehk:: gth :)
[04:50] <NoUse> Jessehk apt-get clean removes all debs from cache, auto-clean only removes debs of old software, it won't cause problems other than the fact that you will have to re-download the debs if you need to reinstall them or whatever
[04:50] <Jessehk> NoUse, Thanks :)
[04:51] <deditri> test
[04:51] <wulax> Gorg2: are you sure the cd is ok? did you check md5sum?
[04:51] <Hexidigital_> crashed
[04:52] <Gorg2> yes
[04:52] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: what kind of laptop?
[04:52] <Gorg2> Dell Inspiron 1100
[04:53] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: stupid question... do you have the latest BIOS updates?
[04:53] <Gorg2> yes
[04:53] <Gorg2> A32
[04:53] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: also, what distribution did you download? desktop, alternative?
[04:53] <Gorg2> desktop
[04:53] <Hexidigital_> ah
[04:54] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: there *may be* a problem with the desktop install... if you dont mind another download, i'd suggest the alternative dist
[04:55] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: it's not really a bug, afaik, but it dosen't always work
[04:55] <Gorg2> damn...would I need to burn at 1x?
[04:56] <Gorg2> or get another copy?
[04:56] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: download the alternative .iso, and burn at (at most) 8X
[04:56] <const_cast> moin
[04:56] <Hexidigital_> 8x is my own personal suggestion
[04:56] <Gorg2> ok
[04:56] <Hexidigital_> moin const_cast
[04:57] <zec> What are the command line tools for viewing/setting services in Ubuntu? Like rc-status and rc-update in Gentoo?
[04:57] <deditri> hello
[04:57] <Hexidigital_> const_cast:: geht #ubuntu-de
[04:57] <Hexidigital_> Gorg2:: you should be in good shape after that
[04:58] <const_cast> uh. that /asmsg command doesn't work the way i expected it to work :-)
[04:58] <Hexidigital_> const_cast:: :) sorry
[04:58] <const_cast> *g* i'm sorry :D
[04:58] <deditri> anyone have experience with fglrx for ati rage mobility p/m agp2x
[04:58] <const_cast> i didn't plan to send it to this server, too =)
[04:58] <mephis1987> hello , how can i remove ubuntu games without removing ubuntu-desktop
[04:58] <Hexidigital_> const_cast:: did i at least say that correctly? or should it be gehen?
[04:59] <rem_> hey ... what can you do when a kill -9 pid doesnt kill the app ?
[04:59] <const_cast> Hexidigital_: you mean like "go to #ubuntu-de"?
[04:59] <Ng> mephis1987: you can't, unless you create an empty package that claims to provide the gnome-games dependency, or rebuild the ubuntu-desktop package to exclude the gnome-games dependency
[04:59] <Ng> rem_: reboot
[04:59] <Hexidigital_> const_cast:: yes
[05:00] <rem_> hmm guess ure a windows user :P
[05:00] <mephis1987> Ng:  how can I rebuild that package ?
[05:00] <Ng> rem_: not at all
[05:00] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: ubuntu-desktop is ok to remove
[05:00] <const_cast> then it should be like "geh nach #ubuntu-de" or something like that :)
[05:00] <nny> hey whats the package for make, gcc etc?
[05:00] <nny> package name*
[05:00] <Ng> nny: build-essential
[05:00] <dixie> rem_: try kill -CONT <pid>
[05:00] <nny> ahh ty
[05:00] <rem_> no other way than rebooting .. ?
[05:00] <Hexidigital_> const_cast:: :) thanks
[05:00] <nny> damn!
[05:00] <Hexidigital_> have a good day everyone
[05:00] <nny> why does it keep asking me for a cd?
[05:01] <nny> What is this windows?
[05:01] <rem_> thanx, but no luck
[05:01] <Ng> rem_: if a process is in a state that a SIGKILL won't end it, it's not able to be killed, unless, as dixie points out, it's suspended, in which case SIGCONT will revive it
[05:01] <jenda> Can you recommend a good To-do/notes/calendar program? Evolution doesnt' work for me. I heard about tomboy - zit any good?
[05:01] <Ng> rem_: usually it means the process is actually in the middle of a kernel operation, which is why it's not safe to kill it
[05:01] <Ng> jenda: tomboy is just a note taking wiki type thing.
[05:01] <nny> how do i tlel it to get the package from the repos? I don't want to put a dang cd in it for a package
[05:01] <billybennett> Anyone here familar with Mplayer???
[05:01] <rem_> ok..so I guess izt just runs forever until i reboot ... :(
[05:02] <Panzerboy> does anybody have a linux/version.h file in /usr/src/linux/include for the current dapper kernel?
[05:02] <lasindi> billybennett: somewhat ... why?
[05:02] <jenda> Ng: OK
[05:02] <gnomefreak> nny: change your sources list to use the repos instead of the cdrom repo
[05:02] <Panzerboy> i'm trying to install the god damn vmware tools in dapper
[05:02] <mephis1987> gnomefreak:  if i removed it , will i upgrade to newer version ?
[05:02] <elkbuntu> Would there be any reason why an NTFS partition would not be able to be resized at all, because I have a NTFS partition that refuses to be resized.
[05:02] <Panzerboy> and now it's complaining that it cannot find this file
[05:02] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: no
[05:02] <Panzerboy> i fuckin hate it
[05:02] <billybennett> lasindi, I'm trying to make it my default DVD player and I'm having trouble finding the info on what attribute to specify for it
[05:02] <Panzerboy> so
[05:02] <nny> gnomefreak: they are :\
[05:02] <rem_> thanx anyway...first time in 3 years i get an answer in here .. :)
[05:02] <Panzerboy> if anybody here
[05:02] <Ng> rem_: do you know what the process is and why it's stuck?
[05:02] <Panzerboy> rebuild their kernel
[05:02] <Panzerboy> PLEASE give me this file
[05:02] <nny> gnomefreak: ahh wait
[05:02] <gnomefreak> Panzerboy: watch your language
[05:03] <wulax> !ask > billybennett
[05:03] <const_cast> jenda: why does evolution not work for you?
[05:03] <rem_> xsane and kooka ... after i upgraded to dapper ..
[05:03] <Ng> !language > Panzerboy
[05:03] <gnomefreak> nny: they are what?
[05:03] <priich> zec had an interesting question about services. I guess there is always /etc/init.d/   scripts but is there a CLI variant of BUM and the like for managing services??
[05:03] <lasindi> billybennett: hm, sorry I can't help you there; I only use mplayer for watching videos as files
[05:03] <nny> gnomefreak: hehe nm, at very top had the cd as a source :\
[05:03] <gnomefreak> lo
[05:03] <billybennett> do what Wulax?
[05:03] <wulax> billybennett: oh, nevermind
[05:03] <deditri> which chanell for newbie???????
[05:03] <rem_> there might be some old files that werent removed properly during upgrade ... ?
[05:04] <deditri> which chanell for newbie???????
[05:04] <MenZa> deditri: this.-
[05:04] <deditri> which chanell for newbie???????
[05:04] <NoUse> priich update-rc.d
[05:04] <MenZa> Now stop repeating yourself.
[05:04] <mephis1987> gnomefreak:  if i remove that , can i use ubuntu repos later ?
[05:04] <NoUse> deditri this one
[05:04] <nny> deditri: stop spamming
[05:04] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: remove what ubuntu-desktop? yes
[05:04] <jenda> const_cast: it won't send mail and I found no help on the subject. Since it's a rather robust program, having to use that without being able to use it as a mail client doesn't seem to make sense.
[05:04] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop > mephis1987
[05:04] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: check your pm from ubotu
[05:05] <Panzerboy> gnomefreak: sorry
[05:05] <Panzerboy> but it's frustrating
[05:05] <const_cast> jenda: why can't you send emails? do you get an error message?
[05:05] <jenda> const_cast: brb, phone
[05:06] <priich> NoUse, thanks.
[05:06] <zec> priich: BUM seems nice from description, but I'm not finding it through apt-cache show?
[05:06] <zec> It's not in the package manager yet, I guess.
[05:06] <zec> Any links on managing that?
[05:06] <josh1871> question -- sound was working, then stopped (on Toshiba satellite laptop)
[05:06] <jenda> const_cast: "MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first k30sm1117294ugc"
[05:06] <mephis1987> gnomefreak:  thanks , another thing , i installed eclipse from synaptic , but it also installed Mozilla Browser which i dont want
[05:07] <mephis1987> and i cant remove it , remove it also remove eclipse
[05:07] <gnomefreak> try to see if you can remove it without removing eclipse but i doint htink you can
[05:07] <finalbeta> I just installed a WPC54G card, after a long time of trying I've set my router into B mode, and now it works, how can I get linux to use wireless G so I get 54Mbit
[05:07] <babo> Can someone do me a favour and check if www.eslteachersboard.com is up or down ?
[05:07] <const_cast> jenda: are you sure your mail server supports tls-encryption?
[05:07] <moonunit> on the ubuntu site i recall a way to view possable packages, how would i get back to that page?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: edit the menu so you never see it and you wont even know its there ;)
[05:08] <mephis1987> gnomefreak:  lolz , good idea
[05:08] <jenda> concept10: no. it's gmail, and I have it set at no encryption.
[05:08] <gnomefreak> moonunit: packages.ubuntu;.com
[05:08] <gnomefreak> .com
[05:08] <moonunit> gnomefreak, orly?
[05:08] <Panzerboy> i don't understand though, how come is mozilla a dependency for eclipse?
[05:08] <Panzerboy> for the help?
[05:08] <babo> err ... is my text actually showing on this irc channel .... ? that's about the fifth question that's been ignored ...
[05:08] <gnomefreak> oandont know but it has been for a while
[05:08] <Panzerboy> babo: yes
[05:08] <dsas> babo: Yes
[05:09] <babo> ok, thanks
[05:09] <const_cast> jenda: so did you try to enable tls? =)
[05:09] <gnomefreak> moonunit: packages.ubuntu.com will give you a list of all packages
[05:09] <moonunit> gnomefreak, ive been looking for that paget forever
[05:10] <nny> anyone know of a fsck.hfsplus package for ubuntu?
[05:10] <Stork> hi, i just installed a 2nd cd drive as a primary IDE slave, and when i put a blank CD-R in it, every 5 minutes, both of my drives eject and dmesg tells me..  This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[05:10] <moonunit> whats the full name of the next ubuntu relese?
[05:10] <NoUse> nny might be in the hfsplus package o rthe hfsutils package
[05:11] <notos> hello i have a semrpon 3000+ with 64bit extension what kernel should i use?
[05:11] <notos> actually im runing on the default dapper..
[05:11] <mephis1987> Panzerboy:  i have no idea about that eclipse
[05:11] <nny> NoUse: hmm it appears not
[05:11] <notos> *Sempron...
[05:11] <Ng> notos: did you install the 386 or amd64 version?
[05:11] <notos> i386
[05:11] <Ng> notos: then you want the k7 kernel
[05:12] <Ng> moonunit: Edgy Eft
[05:12] <moonunit> Ng, what the hell is an Eft?
[05:12] <notos> ... oh thanks :) ...
[05:12] <Ng> moonunit: a newt or something. ask google :)
[05:13] <moonunit> Ng, indeed.
[05:13] <NoUse> nny there may not be one then, I think its a propriety FS
[05:14] <compengi> how to configure locals
[05:14] <michaels> how can I make it so when I press a mailto: link it lets me compose in Gmail via a new Firefox tab?
[05:14] <const_cast> jenda: i just tried it with my googlemail account. it'll work with tls enabled :)
[05:14] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know how to uninstall this unreal tournament game I installed with loki installer. I'm going to try it with wine instead since i'm having problems..
[05:14] <moonunit> Ng, During the time right after metamorphosis, many North American Newt species go through a phase called the eft phase.
[05:14] <moonunit> Ng, good call.
[05:14] <notos> Ng, so just apt-get install linux-image-k7 ?
[05:15] <Ng> notos: yup :)
[05:15] <Ng> Cntryboy: in the ut2004 directory there should be an "uninstall" script
[05:15] <josh1871> Sound problems??  I have gone through the steps listed on the wiki, i'm sure the card is recognized.  It was working, I shut down ,and then on boot it wasn't
[05:15] <notos> *happiness*
[05:15] <Ng> Cntryboy: you may need to run it with sudo if you used sudo to install ut
[05:15] <Cntryboy> Ng it's original unreal tournament not 2004 sorry I didn't say
[05:15] <compengi> i want to add ru_RU.UTF-8 to my locals
[05:16] <compengi> how do i do it
[05:16] <Rambo3> !locales
[05:16] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[05:16] <hompi> Hi, ive got a problem. Ubuntu cant find my non-wireless network card. "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller", anyone got a idea how i can install this?
[05:16] <Ng> Cntryboy: aha. I would think there would still be an uninstall script, but if not you can probably get away with just removing its directory and symlinks/launchers, but that's not ideal
[05:17] <Rambo3> diesnt ut installer start with both uninstall and install options , i dont know.
[05:17] <Cntryboy> well If I used loki installer to install unreal, wouldn't I want to remove loki software?
[05:18] <PowerPcUser> hey there
[05:18] <JPT> Is there a way I can remap the buttons on my mouse so they work properly? I have a Logitech MX 1000
[05:18] <dr_willis> JPT,  define 'properly' :P
[05:18] <Cntryboy> well I did what you said
[05:18] <Cntryboy> I clicked on the uninstall and it worked
[05:18] <dr_willis> JPT,  mine work fine when i bind them for grenades and so forth in the games. :)
[05:19] <Cntryboy> so do I need to remove loki also or should I keep that?
[05:19] <PowerPcUser> got a question concerning an powerpc, ati 9600 mobility and direct rendering
[05:19] <JPT> the back and forward button work and I believe the scroll button click
[05:19] <JPT> the back button serves as a left click right now and everything else doesn't work I think
[05:19] <PowerPcUser> someone able to help with ubuntu and ppc ?
[05:19] <Xenguy> LiveCD question: I'd like to download an ISO of the LiveCD, but can't seem to sort out which is the correct image.  Can anyone help?
[05:19] <jenda> const_cast: Ah :)
[05:20] <Rambo3> !tell PowerPcUser about ask
[05:20] <jenda> const_cast: and can it use GPG?
[05:20] <NoUse> Xenguy its the desktop CD
[05:20] <PowerPcUser> ok ,... im woundering how to get direct rendering to work with ati 9600 mobility
[05:20] <PowerPcUser> on ppc
[05:20] <Ng> JPT: it may just be as simple as editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use a mouse protocol of "evdev", but I'd suggest some googling to make sure
[05:20] <groundstate> Hi.  I'm having a problem with a new ubuntu installation.  network-admin does not alter the iwconfig settings at all.  (zd1211 driver)
[05:21] <PowerPcUser> i mean its an r300 chipset engine and not really supported ...
[05:21] <Xenguy> NoUse: ahh, OK, so that is a LiveCD also -- thanks
[05:21] <const_cast> jenda: theoretically. but i didn't manage to make it work now =)
[05:21] <const_cast> -now +yet
[05:21] <const_cast> i get some error about gpg-agent not running ...
[05:21] <PowerPcUser> rambo3: is there a way to install driver that support direct rendering . ?
[05:22] <Rambo3> !tell PowerPcUser about ati
[05:22] <lee_> hey guys, i get a failed to initialise HAL error when i try and run a gnome session
[05:22] <PowerPcUser> rambo3 ? what do u mean _
[05:22] <PowerPcUser> ?
[05:22] <michaels> how do I set it so mailto: links open a new firefox tab with Gmail's Compose?
[05:22] <jenda> const_cast: OK. BTW, you just need to add gpg-agent to startup progs
[05:22] <Rambo3> ubotu dead ?
[05:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about dead ?
[05:22] <jenda> const_cast: Is there a way to import settings from Mo. Thund.?
[05:23] <jenda> Rambo3: it works a little different now... not sure about the syntax though
[05:23] <PowerPcUser> rambo3 how to install ati 9600 mobility on ppc .... no im alive
[05:23] <josh1871> is there anyone out there who can help me with sound issues?
[05:23] <hompi> Hi, ive got a problem. Ubuntu cant find my non-wireless network card. "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller", anyone got a idea how i can install this?
[05:23] <hompi> ANYONE?
[05:23] <lee_> i was pretty drunk last night and i must have been fucking around with something on here because all i can run now is the failsafe term
[05:24] <jenda> PowerPcUser: you can try the ubuntu desktop guide - you have it in your UBuntu.
[05:24] <Rambo3> PowerPcUser: was trying to send msg over bot , anyway https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29%7C%28ati%29
[05:24] <Ng> !language > lee_
[05:24] <lee_> oops, sorry for that.
[05:24] <const_cast> jenda: that's the problem. gpg-agent _is_ running. but i get that error anyways :(
[05:24] <lee_> some of us brits find it hard to keep some words in
[05:24] <hompi> can somebody please highlight me
[05:24] <jenda> const_cast: ah :(
[05:25] <finalbeta> Just installed a linksys card, but I can only connect to the router in B mode, but the card supports G mode. HOw can I use G mode
[05:26] <Ng> lee_: I'm a brit too ;p
[05:26] <lee_> hah
[05:26] <PowerPcUser> rambo3 how can i install x86 binaries on ppc ?? there is no way to do this ,..
[05:27] <jan> whowas
[05:27] <jan> :-)
[05:27] <Rambo3> PowerPcUser: arent there ppc packages?
[05:27] <lee_> right, livecd time.
[05:27] <jan> just trying to figure out how this irssi thing works :-)
[05:27] <PowerPcUser> Rambo3 no .... there is a reverse engineering project for r300 but i dont know how to install it
[05:28] <Ng> PowerPcUser: afaik there is no way of getting the ATi binary drivers to work on PPC
[05:28] <thugren> Hey SO how are you all doing these days?
[05:28] <PowerPcUser> Ng : i know :)
[05:28] <jenda> const_cast: any idea on the importing?
[05:28] <priich> sadly, ati has always been pretty rotten in the driver department
[05:28] <hompi> can somebody please highlight me
[05:29] <const_cast> jenda: it is possible to import settings from mozilla. so it should be possible to import them from thunderbird
[05:29] <dr_willis> hompi,  care to make some sence?
[05:29] <const_cast> but i didn't try it
[05:29] <jenda> const_cast: it doesn't offer...
[05:29] <hompi> thanks
[05:29] <thugren> ATI, Drivers have always sucked.. This is why I stick with NVIDIA.. ;)
[05:29] <hompi> Hi, ive got a problem. Ubuntu cant find my non-wireless network card. "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller", anyone got a idea how i can install this? Please help me
[05:29] <PowerPcUser> someone out there who is PowerPc experienced and knows about hoe to install the r300 chipset (ati radeon 9600 mobility)
[05:30] <const_cast> jenda: file -> import; import a single file
[05:30] <Rambo3> PowerPcUser: sorry then , , i would search ubuntu forums first
[05:30] <Spec> !seen jpatrick
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about seen jpatrick
[05:30] <jenda> const_cast: which one? :) I'll try...
[05:30] <jenda> Spec: /msg seenserv seen jpatrick
[05:30] <KenSentMe> !seen
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about seen
[05:30] <NoUse> PowerPcUser I don't think ATI supports PPC
[05:31] <PowerPcUser> rambo3: i am not the guy spamming irc ,. i already searched for it in forums
[05:31] <thugren> Man, I got myself a ATI Rage 128 with 32Megs when it 1st came out and It took them 3 Years to get the drivers stable and usable. And I don't think they really fixed it. I found a 3th party drivers from rageunderground.com
[05:31] <Spec> jenda: thanks, didn't even know there was a seenserv :p
[05:31] <jenda> Spec: np ;)
[05:31] <Spec> can i make seenserv notify me if he gets on? :p
[05:31] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:31] <nox-Hand> How come I cannot apt-get mplayer?
[05:32] <PowerPcUser> someone out there who is PowerPc experienced and knows about hoe to install the r300 chipset (ati radeon 9600 mobility)
[05:32] <KenSentMe> nox-Hand: have you added the right repositories?
[05:32] <const_cast> jenda: du you know how to export thunderbird settings?
[05:32] <KenSentMe> !tell nox-Hand about sources
[05:33] <nox-Hand> KenSentMe: Which do I need? I think I have all..
[05:33] <thugren> So I have swarn of ATI's Because of how badly there driver base and programmers are and how rude I was treated with reporting my driver problems as well.
[05:33] <PowerPcUser> NoUse: ati does not support ppc ,.. thats right ,.. but there is a reverse engineering project at source forge
[05:33] <jenda> const_cast: I wanted to... but couldn't find it anywhere.
[05:33] <KenSentMe> nox-Hand: mplayer is in multiverse
[05:33] <nox-Hand> KenSentMe: I get something about no installation candidate
[05:34] <Lens> can you make an account without admin privileges and then put in a sudo password to run admin programs?
[05:34] <jenda> const_cast: in other words, no I don't :)
[05:34] <KenSentMe> nox-Hand: maybe you can pastebin your complete error
[05:34] <thugren> I have had a few problems with NVIDIA drivers but doing rolling back or reinstalling older driver couldn't fix.
[05:34] <nox-Hand> KenSentMe: I cannot, no X right now
[05:34] <nox-Hand> I cannot get it to work x(
[05:35] <nox-Hand> GDM won't start, noone will help
[05:35] <salah> how do I make a tar archive via console?
[05:36] <const_cast> jenda: have a look at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1009
[05:36] <Ng> Lens: in the default configuration, only users in the "admin" group can use sudo. if you want to enable sudo access for someone, add them to that group.
[05:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tar -cvf foo.tar <what you wanna put in it>
[05:36] <KenSentMe> nox-Hand: maybe first need to get gdm running then
[05:36] <regebro> sala tar cf name.tar files
[05:36] <regebro> Re all!
[05:36] <nox-Hand> Aaaanywho, KenSentMe, I am translating from Danish here; The package mplayer has no reachable version, but there is being pointed to another package. This can mean that the package has been made 'unneeded' or only can be fetched from other sources.
[05:36] <POVaddct> salah: tar -czf file.tar.gz directory_to_archive
[05:36] <nox-Hand> KenSentMe: Well, noone wishes to help with GDM =|
[05:36] <salah> POVaddct, thanks
[05:36] <regebro> My Xwindows and laptop adventures have after much mork moved forward!
[05:37] <KenSentMe> nox-Hand: when i get that error, it mostly means i don't have my repos right
[05:37] <regebro> If I now press the Fn+F button to enable the external screen, the beamer blinks. :)
[05:37] <regebro> Anybody know what can be wrong there?
[05:37] <babo> so exactly what does it take then, to get a fresh ubuntu dapper install to actually run skype properly ?
[05:37] <Dragoonz> hello everyone
[05:37] <gdb> On two different dapper machines, after manipulating the Screensaver control panel, /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver no longer starts when GNOME is logged into.  This prevents the Lock Screen function from working off the Quit menu.  Does anyone have any ideas where this can be fixed?
[05:38] <nox-Hand> I need help with GDM!
[05:38] <KenSentMe> babo: add the proper sources and sudo apt-get install skype
[05:38] <nox-Hand> It will not start after my install of XGL, but XGL / X works fine..
[05:38] <gdb> Starting /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver manually from a terminal makes it work for that session only.
[05:38] <babo> KenSentMe: apt doesn't bring in the proper sources ?
[05:38] <KenSentMe> nox-Hand: do you get an error?
[05:39] <ubuntu> hey guys, how would i mount my hard drive from the livecd?
[05:39] <jenda> const_cast: in other words, no I don't :)
[05:39] <jenda> oops
[05:39] <KenSentMe> !skype
[05:39] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:39] <Lens> Ng, it's confusing because I want to have my normal personal account where I do almost everything without admin privileges... but I still want to be able to run etherap and etherreal and stuff.
[05:39] <KenSentMe> !tell babo about skype
[05:40] <jenda> const_cast: Meant to say, I don't need to import the mail - I need the filters and folders, mainly... I guess this would do the folders... I'm still searching.
[05:40] <babo> yes. pls tell me ...
[05:40] <babo> KenSentMe ...
[05:40] <babo> ok got it thanks ... :-)
[05:40] <nox-Hand> KenSentMe: No, gdm just gets to the part where there is no background, and the cursor is busy, then it crashes, restarts, and keeps on doing that untill it is automaticly disabled. A mate of mine says that perhaps not all modules in /etc/init.d/gdm are being loaded, but I don't know...
[05:40] <KenSentMe> babo: k
[05:40] <Ng> Lens: then add your normal user to the admin group and you can run the odd thing with sudo when you want to
[05:40] <Sakhaara> can someone help me with a login loop ?
[05:40] <Ng> Lens: the only other option is to start configuring sudo to behave differently, but I would recommend against trying that
[05:41] <Lens> Ng, but I would be compromising some safety by making this account admin. right?
[05:41] <dr_willis> nox-Hand,  if you are seeing the gdm login, then its crashing - sounds like the x server is crashing
[05:41] <Ng> Lens: not really - it can't do anything admin related without your password being entered
[05:42] <Ng> Sakhaara: ask your question or describe your problem and we'll see what we can do
[05:42] <Sakhaara> Ng, ty
[05:42] <nox-Hand> dr_willis: I can start X and XGL, and no bugs arise, but I cannot pipe it through GDM
[05:42] <Lens> Ng yeah... you're right, I've always heard it's not good to run as root.
[05:42] <Sakhaara> i wans checking ubuntuforums..and found an error like mine
[05:42] <Sakhaara> i have a login loop
[05:42] <Ng> Lens: it's not, being in the admin group is not the same as being root :)
[05:42] <regebro> Nobody has any ideas of how to set up X and laptops?
[05:43] <dr_willis> nox-Hand,  i wouldent even go near xgl at this time. :P
[05:43] <eyequeue> I think we're about to get a glood of "mirror down" people.  Thus ends my limited attempt at foreteeling the future :-)
[05:43] <ynef> regebro: what was your question?
[05:43] <roland-erau> regebro, i like to put x _on_ laptops
[05:43] <Ng> Sakhaara: do you have the URL of the ubuntuforums page? what do you mean exactly by a login loop?
[05:43] <nox-Hand> dr_willis: It works fine, right now it's GDM that's fsking.
[05:43] <Lens> Ng now I'm confused, can u set up an account to be nothing but root in ubuntu?
[05:43] <regebro> ynef: The question is basic: How the eff do I make it work. :)
[05:43] <tomas_> Hi
[05:44] <dr_willis> nox-Hand,  if xgl is causing gdm to mess up. its not fine.. but the true test would be to remove xgl and see if gdm then starts working right.. or ya could alwyas use some other XDM manager.. or just use the console
[05:44] <regebro> ynef: If I now press the Fn+F4 button to enable the external screen, the beamer blinks.
[05:44] <gdb> Lens: The "nothing but root" account is already there and it's called "root".
[05:44] <tomas_> I need urgent help. V4l finds my cam but all my webcam-enabled ims are unwilling to find it (or access it)
[05:44] <Ng> Lens: see what gdb said :)
[05:44] <Ng> !root > Lens
[05:44] <regebro> ynef Thats better than before, but still not very useful. ;)
[05:44] <ynef> regebro: aha, stuff like that :) no clue -- never tried it, possibly never will :)
[05:44] <Lens> k thanks, I'll check it out. :)
[05:44] <gdb> Lens: Direct login to it is locked by default, but you're running as that root user when you use sudo.
[05:44] <eyequeue> Lens, that would be very unwise, and differs from the ubuntu philosophy, but CAN be done
[05:44] <Sakhaara> Ng,  like this
[05:44] <regebro> ynef: Ok, thanks.
[05:44] <gdb> Lens: You're free to unlock the account, but it's not recommended.
[05:44] <nox-Hand> dr_willis: Bugger
[05:44] <Sakhaara> Now it's got even worse, I seem to now be stuck in some kind of loop. What happens now is, upon booting, I get the Ubuntu splash screen inviting me to login, I enter my username and password which are accepted, then after a bit of loading, I'm dumped at the command line where it again asks me to login using my details. Once I do that, a bit of loading ensues and I'm then back at the Ubuntu splash screen, where - you guessed it - it wants m
[05:44] <Sakhaara> e to login!
[05:45] <ynef> regebro: does everything else work for you?
[05:45] <regebro> I honestly don't understand why this si such a horrific pain.
[05:45] <regebro> ynef: Yes.
[05:45] <PowerPcUser> @ALL: with which version of xorg does ubuntu current come along ? 7.0 or 7.1 ?
[05:45] <Sakhaara> i boot..i get to the splash screen, login..and it turns back to the splash screen
[05:45] <dr_willis> nox-Hand,  the problem of course is 'easially' removeing XGL
[05:45] <Ng> Sakhaara: hmm, it might be worth testing with another user. do you have any other users configured on the machine?
[05:45] <eyequeue> Lens, if you read the wiki page about rootsudo you should be able to do so, but understand why we don't
[05:45] <ynef> PowerPcUser: 7.0 last i checked -- see packages.ubuntu.com for details
[05:45] <Sakhaara> no Ng  i dont
[05:45] <eyequeue> !tell Lens about rootsudo
[05:46] <Sakhaara> i've checked xorg log
[05:46] <Sakhaara> and found nothing just some warnings with founts
[05:46] <PowerPcUser> ynef : thx
[05:46] <SniZ> who know albanian?
[05:46] <Ng> Sakhaara: ok, hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in as you and do something like "sudo adduser test", then try logging in with that - this should tell us if it is a problem with your user or the system in general
[05:46] <nox-Hand> dr_willis: Yeah, I guess
[05:47] <Sakhaara> Ng,  ok ok ...
[05:47] <Sakhaara> ill reboot..brb in a moment
[05:47] <const_cast> jenda: hmmm. no idea how to do this
[05:47] <eyequeue> ubotu, botsnack
[05:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack
[05:47] <Cntryboy> grr
[05:47] <ynef> regebro: does it work if you just try to send the actual console (ctrl-alt-f1) to the external monitor? perhaps x.org needs a modeline for your particular external monitor
[05:47] <eyequeue> !tell Lens about rootsudo
[05:47] <Cntryboy> does direct9 or any versions of direct 9 work with wine?
[05:47] <eyequeue> !rootsudo
[05:47] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:48] <Cntryboy> unrealtournament and wine in open gl won't let me change gamma
[05:48] <eyequeue> weird
[05:48] <larsemil> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200804 <-- anyone?
[05:48] <jenda> const_cast: Well... bottomline - evolution is basically unusable for me (and most TB users) as it has no import settings feature for TB and basically no support available. :( Not even static documentation, I think...
[05:48] <regebro> ynef: Nope, same thing happens there.
[05:48] <Agrajag> Cntryboy: why are you running that in wine when there is a linux port?
[05:48] <ynef> regebro: dammit! then I haven't got a clue
[05:48] <wrath_> hello all, a little help please: My password no longer works in the terminal, and my programs keep no responding, any ideas?
[05:49] <const_cast> jenda: static documentation?
[05:49] <ynef> wrath_: seems incredibly weird -- try restarting?
[05:49] <regebro> ynef: And The modes work, I think, I can switch monitors by booting with the external monitor.
[05:49] <regebro> But I can't switch without rebooting.
[05:49] <wrath_> I did still not working
[05:49] <KenSentMe> Cntryboy: i thought there was a linux client for unreal
[05:49] <ynef> regebro: now that is weird
[05:49] <Cntryboy> Agrajag I've tried using loki installer, and it doesn't work right and I couldn't find help for my problem. with loki install unreal T plays but its jerky, won't let me change resolution no higher than 800x600 and won't let me change to 16 bit
[05:49] <GNeRaL> how to install mp3 codecs to totem
[05:49] <Cntryboy> there is KenSentMe but it doesn't work right
[05:49] <eyequeue> is there no longer a /msg ack for a !tell with the bot?  anyone know?  i'm not getting one here at least
[05:50] <michaels> how do I get Gmail integration in Ubuntu?
[05:50] <ynef> !tell GNeRaL about restrictedformats
[05:50] <regebro> yenf: It's not weird at all, it's just crap configuration of X, and it seems that nobody in the whole fidging world actually understands that piece of crap software.
[05:50] <Iam8up|lpy> !ubotu hardware compatibility
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu hardware compatibility
[05:50] <eyequeue> wrath_, there is a way to reset your password if need be
[05:50] <NoUse> michaels define integration
[05:50] <KenSentMe> michaels: install gmail-notify
[05:51] <eyequeue> !hardware
[05:51] <Iam8up|lpy> !ubotu hcl
[05:51] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu hcl
[05:51] <ynef> regebro: ain't that the truth... I set my system up once and I keep my configuration file backed up in several locations... :)
[05:51] <michaels> NoUse: pressing a mailto link and getting it in a new firefox tab in Gmail's compose
[05:51] <jenda> const_cast: as in, documentation on the net (it doesn't move, so is static :))
[05:51] <michaels> KenSentMe: isn't it possible to get it using the preferred applications thingy?
[05:51] <wrath_> It works when I log in but stops when I want to do anything in the terminal. Up until 20 minutes ago it was working
[05:51] <regebro> xorg.conf is all magical handwaving. It's like being thrown back to the 60s.
[05:51] <NoUse> michaels you can install a firefox plugin to have firefox direct all mailto links to gmail, from inside gnome, I'm not sure
[05:51] <eyequeue> Iam8up|lpy, try /msg ubotu  (keywordhere)
[05:52] <michaels> okay NoUse, thanks
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy> tyvm
[05:52] <KenSentMe> michaels: don't know, i just searched the repos
[05:52] <Cntryboy> So does directx work with wine or no?
[05:52] <Lens> I know maybe this isn't what most people might do, but I wish I knew how to disabe privialeges for specific programs instead of users at this point.
[05:52] <const_cast> jenda: http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/documentation.shtml
[05:52] <const_cast> there is a pdf-manual
[05:53] <KenSentMe> Lens: for some programs you can specify under what user they run
[05:53] <jenda> Alright... anyway, is there any good todo/planning/notes software besides evolution?
[05:53] <const_cast> jenda: you could ask at evolution-list@gnome.org.
[05:53] <NoUse> Cntryboy its not really binary, its a per application thing, you can check the application db at winehq.com
[05:53] <Lens> KenSentMe : under prefs?
[05:53] <GNeRaL> ynef, i purchased legal mp3 ? how to listen ?
[05:53] <mihai> dorian86
[05:53] <michaels> NoUse: is there a specific extension you had in mind?
[05:53] <const_cast> jenda: kontact.kde.org
[05:53] <mihai> dorian86
[05:54] <KenSentMe> Lens: what programs are you talking about?
[05:54] <eyequeue> Lens, i hope i wasn't having the bot spam you before, if my apologies
[05:54] <jenda> const_cast: never mind that - I like thunderbird, I'm not really looking for a mail client. but thanks for your help 
[05:54] <Cntryboy> yah im searching now nouse, I think i read it might work with cedega or what ever thats called
[05:54] <Cntryboy> but i read u have to pay for it
[05:54] <jenda> const_cast: is kontact for gnome as well?
[05:54] <NoUse> michaels its called WebmailCompose
[05:54] <ynef> GNeRaL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:54] <michaels> thanks NoUse
[05:54] <NoUse> Cntryboy what game? and yes cedega is not free
[05:54] <const_cast> jenda: no. it's for kde
[05:55] <Cntryboy> okay im over trying to play games in linux, games/linux doesn't go well together..
[05:55] <Cntryboy> nouse unrealtournament
[05:55] <NoUse> Cntryboy if you get native linux games they work great
[05:55] <jenda> OK...
[05:55] <KenSentMe> Cntryboy: i've been playing Enemy Territory all day on Ubuntu, works great
[05:55] <Lens> KenSentMe, like etherape (as root), I would like to have it accesable to my desktop account
[05:55] <Cntryboy> I had problems playing unreal through linux port and now have differ. issues with wine lol
[05:55] <eyequeue> NoUse, do you have any you recommend?
[05:55] <Cntryboy> how do you uninstall games/programs with wine?
[05:55] <Cntryboy> so I can get this crap off of here lol
[05:56] <NoUse> Cntryboy run 'uninstall' from the console
[05:56] <KenSentMe> Lens: maybe you could look what binary it uses and modify the user privileges
[05:56] <Cntryboy> Nouse wine uninstall with in the dir right?
[05:56] <NoUse> eyequeue games?
[05:56] <NoUse> Cntryboy no from anywhere
[05:56] <KenSentMe> eyequeue: Enemy Territory
[05:56] <eyequeue> NoUse, yeah, i'm no gamer but thought suggestions may help
[05:56] <Cntryboy> how does it know what to uninstall?
[05:56] <KenSentMe> eyequeue: that one's free
[05:56] <Lens> yeah, there has to be a way to do it.
[05:56] <NoUse> eyequeue any game by Id software
[05:57] <NoUse> Cntryboy it gives you a emnu
[05:57] <const_cast> jenda: you can also have a look at sunbird (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/)
[05:57] <Cntryboy> its not giving it any names I don't wanna uninstall wine just the unreal game through wine
[05:57] <NoUse> Cntryboy menu*
[05:57] <Lens> I am quite happy with my user accounts though... :-/
[05:57] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~$ uninstall
[05:57] <Cntryboy> bash: uninstall: command not found
[05:57] <NoUse> eyequeue Unreal Tourny 2004+ are linux native
[05:57] <Cntryboy> i bet I need to be in that dir
[05:57] <zam-aliphe> i think i'm gon try ubuntu
[05:58] <KenSentMe> zam-aliphe: nice
[05:58] <jenda> const_cast: thx
[05:58] <Lens> KenSentMe> Well, so, do you think most people run thier main account (the one they use most as admin)?
[05:58] <NoUse> Cntryboy sorry its 'winecfg'
[05:59] <Cntryboy> winecfg is the config file, so how would I remove a game from that?
[05:59] <Cntryboy> wait let me check js
[05:59] <NoUse> Cntryboy winecfg is an application, just run it
[05:59] <KenSentMe> Lens: i don't understand what you mean
[05:59] <eyequeue> i believe most people run their first-created account, which automatically has sudo privileges
[05:59] <Cntryboy> winecfg doesn't give me any options to remove unreal
[06:00] <KenSentMe> Lens: i run the main account only
[06:00] <KenSentMe> Lens: i have only one account
[06:00] <dgl>  gnomefreak, Thanks a lot man! I sucessfully fix my system!
[06:00] <dgl> void^,  Thanks a lot man! I sucessfully fix my system!
[06:00] <priich> i must admit i run way too much as root
[06:00] <Cntryboy> I ran it last night, I set up my midi through it.. Im there now and it doesn't give me any options to remove programs or games through wine
[06:00] <dsas> if you want to have other accounts you can give the user access in the "user & groups" tool.
[06:00] <zam-aliphe> what ... ubuntu is one cd 700 MG ?
[06:00] <priich> but it's just so comfy having one of the terminals sudo su:ed
[06:00] <dsas> zam-aliphe: yes
[06:01] <SeanTater> zam-aliphe: one cd is 700 MB
[06:01] <eyequeue> but you can add users, and if desired grant them sudo privileges as well (via visudo while sudoing as the first user, if that's not confusing)
[06:01] <KenSentMe> zam-aliphe: but other packages can be downloaded
[06:01] <Sakhaara> Ng, same porb :s
[06:02] <Lens> KenSentMe, I'm just trying to have a nice little admin + secure account system, right now I have (Admin [changing privelages] )... and (personal [where I spend most of my time] ) ... and (work [very little priveleges, just email and open office] )  do you think Admin and personal are redundant and should be combined into only Play and work?
[06:02] <dsas> eyequeue: You can give them access just by using "user & groups" though not as fine grained.
[06:02] <NoUse> Cntryboy even in the application tab?
[06:02] <keithhhhh> Can Ubuntu hear sound in flash video?
[06:02] <eyequeue> what dsas is the better way, i just come from a cli background and didn't know the gui method
[06:02] <Cntryboy> application tab has default
[06:02] <MFen> does dapper drake *not* read from /etc/modules any more?
[06:02] <Cntryboy> and below that lets me choose what os mimic
[06:02] <MFen> all of a sudden options i have set in /etc/modules are being ignored
[06:03] <NoUse> Cntryboy mine lists all my installed wine applications
[06:03] <KenSentMe> Lens: that's up to you, but if you run work for example, you can always run the applications you want using sudo, is it? You know the password of the first user (admin).
[06:03] <MFen> specifically "psmouse proto=bare" is not being done.. every time i boot i have to rmmod psmouse and then add proto=bare to the command line
[06:03] <Cntryboy> not here
[06:03] <MFen> this wasn't the case in the last two ubuntu releases. does anyone know what's going on?
[06:03] <eyequeue> but then i would get to type "via visudo" which sounds so poetic :)
[06:03] <NoUse> Cntryboy if you just want to get rid of you can just 'rm ~/.wine/ -rf' and it will delete all wine stuff in your home directory
[06:03] <Cntryboy> maybe you added what u wanted to install through that
[06:03] <keithhhhh> Can Ubuntu play sound in flash video?
[06:03] <roland-erau> yes
[06:03] <mgedmin> MFen: I suspect that udev may modprobe psmouse before the init scripts get to reading /etc/modules
[06:04] <KenSentMe> !tell keithhhhh about flash
[06:04] <mgedmin> MFen: better specify the options in /etc/modprobe.d/
[06:04] <NoUse> Cntryboy no I just used the various setup.exe
[06:04] <MFen> mgedmin: ok thanks, i'll look that up
[06:04] <Cntryboy> I don't wanna get rid of wine, just the game ut
[06:04] <dsas> eyequeue: visudo lets you get more fine grained and stuff. but ticking the box in users & groups is so much easier to understand and stops people from making a mess of stuff.
[06:04] <Ng> Sakhaara: could you post your Xorg.0.log to a pastebin please
[06:04] <Lens> KenSentMe, it wont let me,... it's acting like... you can't use sudo because you don't have administrative privlages IE... sudo.
[06:04] <rendo> Are there any types of programs like CPUZ for Linux/Ubuntu?
[06:04] <Sakhaara> Ng,  how :o
[06:04] <Cntryboy> NoUse, I did to I would do like wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe ect.
[06:04] <NoUse> Cntryboy its installed to ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:04] <Cntryboy> yes I know that
[06:04] <NoUse> Cntryboy you can just remove it I guess
[06:04] <KenSentMe> Lens: ah, ok
[06:04] <Cntryboy> mmm I dunno
[06:04] <Sakhaara> im on a livecd
[06:04] <Sakhaara> :S
[06:04] <ubuntuzire72> hi, i'm having a most likely non serious problem. i was trying to create a Dock much like the one in OSX, however i got frustrated and deleted the bar. now i am trying to make a new bar and i cant figure out how to make it switch back and forth between open windows
[06:05] <Cntryboy> Id rather uninstall it than just delete the folder
[06:05] <hompi> Hi, ive got a problem. Ubuntu cant find my non-wireless network card. "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller", anyone got a idea how i can install this? Please help me! :(
[06:05] <Ng> Sakhaara: hmm, that's a good point :/
[06:05] <eyequeue> dsas, definitely the better advice in here, considering the average sudo conversation is with a newbie in here i think
[06:05] <Sakhaara> Ng,  y :p
[06:05] <Sakhaara> lol
[06:05] <Ng> Sakhaara: ok, try logging in again, but this time, before you do, at the gdm screen change to the failsafe session
[06:05] <Lens> NG: Seems like the sane thing to do is divide it up into just two accounts instead of three
[06:05] <jenda> Cntryboy: I believe removing is safe. Ubnutu has no registry or that kind of thing.
[06:05] <xbeanx> anybody have any success installing firefox dom inspector?  I can't do it through synaptic and I can't do it though firefox itself
[06:05] <malachi> How can I open ports in Ubuntu?
[06:05] <KenSentMe> hompi: is it not detected at all, or it just wont work?
[06:05] <Sakhaara> Ng,  ok ok..brb
[06:06] <StoneCold> ey dudes who know wher can get ebuntu ?
[06:06] <NoUse> Cntryboy grep -i uninstall ~/.wine/* might output the uninstall command for that program, then you just run it with wine
[06:06] <rendo> Is there any way to check your HDD and CPU temps in Ubuntu?
[06:06] <ynef> malachi: by default, no firewall is running -- all ports are "open"
[06:06] <NET||abuse> hmm, airsnort started wrokin for me...
[06:06] <ubuntuzire72> hi, i'm having a most likely non serious problem. i was trying to create a Dock much like the one in OSX, however i got frustrated and deleted the bar. now i am trying to make a new bar and i cant figure out how to make it switch back and forth between open windows
[06:06] <hompi> KenSentMe: it says something like "Ethernet contorller: Device not found" or something in lspci - im not in linux now besause then i wouldent get into IRC.
[06:06] <eyequeue> malachi, install a listener on the desired port, example, postfix for port 25 (smtp)
[06:06] <ynef> malachi: ...at least in regard to what you need for bittorrent etc
[06:06] <NET||abuse> using host AP/Orinoco ?? does that mean that maybe kismet could use orinoco type in source= ??
[06:06] <Cntryboy> Nouse im going to find the uninstall.exe and see if i can click on it or something brb
[06:06] <KenSentMe> StoneCold: check http://www.edubuntu.org/
[06:06] <NoUse> Cntryboy won't work
[06:07] <Cntryboy> k
[06:07] <erUSUL> rendo: sure with sensord and sensors for example. Some systems can be monitored via ACPI too
[06:07] <Cntryboy> i did that with the loki version lol
[06:07] <ubuntuzire72> can someone help me?
[06:07] <hompi> KenSentMe: any idea?
[06:07] <eyequeue> malachi, by default ubuntu whips with nothing listening, safer
[06:07] <Cntryboy> and it ran a script
[06:07] <KenSentMe> hompi: have you googled on your card and linux, or checked the forums. Maybe someone already got the problem with that card
[06:07] <erUSUL> !tell ubuntuzire72 about anyone
[06:07] <hompi> KenSentMe: ive done :/
[06:07] <ubuntuzire72> hi, i'm having a most likely non serious problem. i was trying to create a Dock much like the one in OSX, however i got frustrated and deleted the bar. now i am trying to make a new bar and i cant figure out how to make it switch back and forth between open windows
[06:08] <NoUse> Cntryboy with windows programs, they need to run uninstall.exe against a script/list of installed files that is generated by the install program
[06:08] <kwilliams> hey...I have a PERC 2/Sc raid controller, and during my ubuntu installation, it does not detect the logical drive.  I believe it's a module issue, but am over my head, can anyone help me with this?
[06:08] <rendo> erUSUL how would I monitor it with ACPI?
[06:08] <okay> hi
[06:08] <Cntryboy> NoUse I know, but with the loki version I went to uninstall clicked on it and it ran a script and deleted it out of the .loki dir lol
[06:08] <Ng> kwilliams: I would suggest some googling, but it *may* be the megaraid module you need to load
[06:08] <Cntryboy> I would leave it if I could get the brightness to work with this wine version
[06:08] <priich> hompi: what does                 lspci | grep Network                                      say ?
[06:09] <Cntryboy> gama doesn't work in wine and unrealtournament I guess
[06:09] <KenSentMe> hompi: i can't help you with that. I'm not that good with hardware and stuff
[06:09] <eyequeue> ubuntuzire72, I think what you call dock  might be what we call panel
[06:09] <Cntryboy> not with opengl
[06:09] <kwilliams> Ng....after I load the megaraid module...should the /dev/sda items just appear, or is there something else I have to do?
[06:09] <eyequeue> ubuntuzire72, if so, i can get you another one
[06:09] <erUSUL> ubuntuzire72: have you added the applet to list windows. right click in the panel choose 'add to pannel' in windows section
[06:09] <NoUse> Cntryboy loki programs are native linux apps, wine apps aren't
[06:09] <Cntryboy> Okay
[06:09] <erUSUL> rendo: i do not know for sure i use sensord and sensors
[06:09] <eyequeue> ubuntuzire72, you have a bar up top that says applications and things?
[06:10] <rendo> I just installed sensord and I don't know how it works. :/  Man didn't really help me either.
[06:10] <ubuntuzire72> eyequeue: yes i do
[06:10] <Cntryboy> do you know how I could get the brightness to work with UT and this wine, if so i'll leave it, if not i must remove it because its wayyyyyyy to dark
[06:10] <MFen> mgedmin: nicely done, setting up in /etc/modprobe.d/options fixed it
[06:10] <killaz> guys where can I download some cool ubuntu themes? Or maybe gnome themes?
[06:10] <ubuntuzire72> eyequeue: i just dont know how to do what erUSUL said
[06:10] <hompi> priich: im not in ubutntu now.
[06:10] <eyequeue> ubuntuzire72, right click on it, on a bare spot, tell it you want "new panel"
[06:10] <killaz> !themes
[06:10] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:10] <hompi> but it find my ethernet controller but it says "Device not supported" or similar.
[06:10] <ubuntuzire72> eyequeue: ok, then what?
[06:11] <KenSentMe> killaz: http://www.google.nl/search?q=gnome+themes
[06:11] <wastrel> hello
[06:11] <ubuntuzire72> eyequeue: i just figured it out
[06:11] <ubuntuzire72> thanks!
[06:11] <erUSUL> rendo: run sensors in a console. sensord is a daemon it runs in background collecting data
[06:11] <eyequeue> ubuntuzire72, it will make a new blank bar somewhere, right click on THAT one and select properties
[06:12] <rendo> I have no sensors !!! :O
[06:12] <eyequeue> ubuntuzire72, tweak to your heart's content :)
[06:12] <rendo> What do I do, for the love of God what do I do!!!! :P
[06:12] <KenSentMe> rendo: is sensord about checking your mobo temp etc?
[06:12] <rendo> I don't know.
[06:12] <reon> Where does one configure proxy settings in ubuntu ?
[06:13] <KenSentMe> rendo: why did you install it then?
[06:13] <ROBOd> hello guys
[06:13] <rendo> reon system->preferences->proxy settings
[06:13] <NoUse> Cntryboy I don't know
[06:13] <ROBOd> i have the vlc plugin for firefox installed
[06:13] <erUSUL> rendo: install it you can use xsensors or sensors-applet they are just front ends
[06:13] <ROBOd> and i can't see movies online
[06:13] <SeanTater> rendo: you'll need to install lmsensora
[06:13] <ROBOd> the only thing that shows is a "(no picture)" message
[06:13] <SeanTater> rendo: you'll need to install lmsensors
[06:13] <ROBOd> what to do?
[06:14] <reon> rendo, Thx !
[06:14] <SeanTater> ROBOd: what type of movies
[06:14] <SeanTater> ROBOd: can you send a link
[06:14] <Cntryboy> Nouse okay np thx, Im over trying to get games to work.. years ago when I helped a friend do it with old redhat it worked fine
[06:14] <ROBOd> quick time movies, from apple.com/trailers
[06:14] <Cntryboy> I think its ubuntu actually
[06:14] <SeanTater> ROBOd: I had exactly the same problem, here's how to fix it
[06:15] <ROBOd> SeanTater: thanks :)
[06:15] <rendo> Ah whatever, who cares. :/
[06:15] <rendo> Too much work, too much housework needs to be done.
[06:15] <SeanTater> ROBOd: do you have multiverse on?
[06:15] <ROBOd> SeanTater: yes, of course, not a noob here :)
[06:15] <SeanTater> ROBOd: install libquicktime0
[06:15] <ROBOd> oh
[06:15] <SeanTater> ROBOd: then restart the browser
[06:16] <SeanTater> ROBOd: and voila
[06:16] <ROBOd> SeanTater: i already have it installed
[06:16] <wastrel> i turned on my air conditioner
[06:16] <SeanTater> ROBOd: well then
[06:17] <SeanTater> ROBOd: humph
[06:17] <mephis1987> hello , which download manager is best for ubuntu ?
[06:17] <SeanTater> ROBOd: tried kaffiene?
[06:17] <Sean> What is kaffiene
[06:17] <mephis1987> gwget ?
[06:17] <ROBOd> SeanTater: nope
[06:17] <SeanTater> ROBOd: it worked here, as I remember
[06:17] <ketsugi> caffeine is really good
[06:17] <ROBOd> SeanTater: i shall try mplayer
[06:18] <SeanTater> Sean: a media player
[06:18] <ketsugi> helps me stay awake all the time
[06:18] <Sean> THanks
[06:18] <SeanTater> Sean: for KDE, and it's a pretty good one
[06:18] <scott> mplayer is the don tbh.
[06:18] <SeanTater> ROBOd: if you want gnome or general, install xine and xine-gui
[06:18] <KenSentMe> scott: the don?
[06:18] <mephis1987> !gwget
[06:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about gwget
[06:18] <mephis1987> !download
[06:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:18] <kwilliams> OK....so, I have a logical raid 5 hard drive using the Perc2/sc controller...when I enter lsmod | grep raid, I see megaraid.  I still do not see /dev/sda...can anyone offer me pointers as to how to troubleshoot this?
[06:19] <scott> KenSentMe, the best
[06:19] <SeanTater> mephis1987: there are better ways of getting app info from ubotu
[06:19] <wastrel> gwget?
[06:19] <SeanTater> !info gwget
[06:19] <ubotu> gwget: GNOME front-end for wget. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.96-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[06:19] <tim_> hello, can somebody help me turn off CPU throttling? thanks
[06:19] <wastrel> good lord wget is too hard for some people?
[06:19] <ROBOd> SeanTater: i have vlc, mplayer and xine properly working for general video playback
[06:19] <KenSentMe> scott: my mplayer-plugin for firefox never worked and with kaffeine it does, so i prefer the latter
[06:19] <mephis1987> wastrel: what is the easier ?
[06:19] <SeanTater> ROBOd: okay, also install libxine-extracodecs
[06:19] <scott> KenSentMe, fair enough :)
[06:19] <ROBOd> SeanTater: however, i'd also like video playback in firefox and opera 9 :)
[06:20] <wastrel> mephis1987:  gwget
[06:20] <SeanTater> ROBOd: I don;t use either, I use konq.
[06:20] <wolfeySI> hello guys... we bought two scsi disks for our server, so does ubuntu need anything special to 1. mount it, 2. boot from it?
[06:20] <SeanTater> ROBOd: sorry
[06:20] <ROBOd> SeanTater: i use opera 9, yet... i'll try to get video playback working first in firefox (might be easier, then opera 9)
[06:21] <Frogzoo> wolfeySI: you need linux drivers for your scsi controller - that's about it
[06:21] <soccio> Hi
[06:21] <soccio> Is there a way to tell gnome-volume-manager where to mount cdroms?
[06:22] <SeanTater> ROBOd: libquicktime0 is all I needed AFAIK, although I have libflash-nonfree, w32codecs, and libxine-extracodecs, withy libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 installed
[06:23] <ROBOd> SeanTater: me too
[06:23] <SeanTater> ROBOd: If that does not do it, I do not know what will
[06:23] <wolfeySI> Frogzoo: what about boot from scsi?
[06:23] <wolfeySI> or better boot from ide?
[06:23] <wolfeySI> it's ibm x235
[06:24] <roland-erau> anyone feel like helping me configure dual-head?
[06:24] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, the hard drive usage on / is going up by about 5 kb per second, and i'm not downloading anything... is this unusual?
[06:24] <SeanTater> wolfeySI: if you have access to it, how about trying the live cd?
[06:24] <kwilliams> I noticed an error during boot stating ide_core (and a couple other ide modules) did not load...would this affect my ability to see my scsi hard drives (through my raid controller)?
[06:24] <KenSentMe> roland-erau: just tell us what you problem is, and maybe someone can help
[06:24] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: how log did it do that?
[06:24] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: *long
[06:24] <jpeg-man> I need help finding a LSI SAS 3000 Series driver for linux, can anyone help me?
[06:24] <rdz> roland-erau, i coould pastebin my xorg.conf, which has dualhead enabled
[06:25] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: It could be logs and such
[06:25] <yoshiznit123> seantater, it just keeps going up, i'm running 'df' and every second about 5 kb more are used
[06:25] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: not surprised
[06:25] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, at certain times, cron jobs run, such as backing up syslog.  it may be normal
[06:25] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: what percent usage?
[06:25] <yoshiznit123> seantater, yea i thought that, just wondering if thats normal :-)
[06:25] <ROBOd> wow
[06:25] <Frogzoo> wolfeySI: I think to boot off scsi you'll need a custom kernel with the scsi driver built in
[06:25] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: yes, totally normal, and sometimes, helpful
[06:25] <neutrinomass> soccio: Doesn't it honour /etc/fstab ?
[06:25] <roland-erau> KenSentMe, and everyone else, fresh ubuntu install. i'm highly confident in my xorg.conf (talking to you from a rhel dual-head now). "nv" drivers don't seem to do it in any configuration.
[06:25] <ROBOd> SeanTater: i installed the mplayer plugin, this one works and it's very good!
[06:25] <jenda> !pl
[06:25] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:25] <SeanTater> ROBOd: good!
[06:26] <yoshiznit123> seantater, ok thanks :-) is there any way to see what processes are writing to the disk?
[06:26] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: checked, it happens here too
[06:26] <NET||abuse> grr, airsnort and kismet,, not giving me signal strength of any networks i find :(
[06:26] <SeanTater> yoshiznit123: probably, not sure
[06:26] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, "top" will let you wantch what's running at any given moment, if you're into that :)
[06:26] <wolfeySI> Frogzoo: okey. boot from ide. root on scsi.
[06:26] <roland-erau> KenSentMe, rdz, i've installed the more current "nvidia" drivers using the nvidia driver installation tool and made the appropriate changes to xorg.conf, however gdm throws errors and says it can't find the "nvidia" driver
[06:26] <soccio> neutrinomass, there are no lines about cdroms in my fstab. If I insert them my gnome-volume-manager will not mount cdroms automatically!
[06:27] <Stork> how come ubuntu can't use two CD/DVD drives ?
[06:27] <Lancellor> hi anyone have some time and help me with mi internet conection???
[06:27] <SeanTater> Stork: it can
[06:27] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, that's cool, but is there a way to see how much a process uses disk?
[06:27] <dr_willis> Stork,    first id ever heard of that issue
[06:27] <wolfeySI> Frogzoo: i guess it's  SCSI_IPR  (IBM Power Raid?!)
[06:27] <neutrinomass> soccio: Weird... my default install comes with loads of fstab entries ... Let me see if there's a gconf key ...
[06:27] <dr_willis> Stork,  clarify.. you referinmg to the live cd? or an installed system?
[06:27] <Stork> installed system
[06:27] <rdz> roland-erau, ohoh, i don't have experience with nvidia-drivers, i have ati mysef and i followed a wikipage and it worked then.
[06:27] <SeanTater> Stork: at least, linux in general can
[06:28] <neutrinomass> yoshiznit123: lsof will give you an idea ...
[06:28] <KenSentMe> Stork: it works for me
[06:28] <dr_willis> Stork,  sounds like a messed up fstab, or falty link in /dev/
[06:28] <soccio> Thanks neutrinomass: My install also comes with those lines, but after last update automount stopped working.
[06:28] <SeanTater> Stork: what makes you think otherwise (what were you doing that needed such capability)
[06:28] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, what neutrinomass said
[06:28] <roland-erau> rdz, thanks for offering. can you tell me about pastebin instead?
[06:28] <rdz> roland-erau, ok, one minute
[06:29] <ROBOd> thanks guys, gotta go now
[06:29] <ROBOd> bye
[06:29] <yoshiznit123> neutrinomass, eyequeue, thanks for all the quick help :-) lsof gives me a crazy big dump, is there a grep that'll just show which are being written to?
[06:29] <Frogzoo> wolfeySI: as I say, if the stock kernel doesn't support your scsi controller, you'll need to add a driver - the hardware docs must mention which drivers are included
[06:29] <Frogzoo> !hardware
[06:29] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:29] <lsuactiafner> i have 5.1 speakers, a 8 channel internal sound card, but i only heard audio on my center and front speakers...
[06:29] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, you can stick a "watch " in front of lsof if you want it constantly updating (^C to quit)
[06:29] <SeanTater> lsuactiafner: sound-blaster-live?
[06:30] <lsuactiafner> in breezy i got it working, but dapper aint working..
[06:30] <lsuactiafner> no, ermi will lspci quickly
[06:30] <fat> hey guys, i'm showing the live cd to a friend here, but i don't want to install it quite yet... i've changed a bunch of stuff though (added chinese support for them, etc.)  will the changes be preserved across reboots? or should i just go ahead and dual-boot?
[06:30] <lsuactiafner> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[06:30] <CreativeID> After installing Dapper, I am going to install Windows 2000 on a separate partition. I know that Windows overrides the boot loader. Could someone explain to me how I could go about preventing this? If not, could you direct me to a guide on configuring either the boot loader that comes with Dapper or Windows for dual boot?
[06:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell CreativeID about grub
[06:30] <KenSentMe> fat: i thought there was an option to save your sessions on a usb drive/stick
[06:30] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, i can do it in three steps?
[06:30] <neutrinomass> soccio: Not sure.... apparently it uses fstab :-/
[06:31] <CreativeID> Thanks jrib
[06:31] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, ?
[06:31] <SeanTater> lsuactiafner: never heard of it
[06:31] <Sakhaara> Ng, same stuff
[06:31] <SeanTater> lsuactiafner: sorry
[06:31] <killaz> damn I want to apologize when I said I dont like Ubuntu as a desktop
[06:31] <soccio> Thanks, neutrinomass. I will try again using fstab, like the old school way.
[06:31] <wolfeySI> CreativeID: normally it's easiest that after windows install you boot from 'rescue cd' and run 'grub' again...
[06:31] <soccio> Bye
[06:31] <killaz> I apologize!!!
[06:31] <killaz> :D
[06:32] <fat> KenSentMe: hmm, they're not that hi-tech. can i do it to the win partition?
[06:32] <Inner|RE> !wine
[06:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more information.
[06:32] <yoshiznit123> i mean, try watch -d df, my usage on / is going up pretty fast (but whatever, i guess it'll be cleared on reboot or something :-)
[06:32] <KenSentMe> fat: don't know actually
[06:32] <neutrinomass> killaz: You were here yesterday, asking how to uninstall Ubuntu,r ight ?
[06:32] <Zauephuaes> killaz: to uninstall ubuntu you can format your hard disk.
[06:32] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, lsof > lsof1 && lsof > lsof2 && diff lsof1 lsof2 | less
[06:32] <killaz> neutrinomass, well no.. actually I was here asking how to install vmware....
[06:33] <killaz> neutrinomass, but no need for that... ;-)
[06:33] <neutrinomass> killaz: Oh, confusing you then (similar username). Happy you're satisfied with Ubuntu anyway :)
[06:33] <killaz> but still I have one problem... my printer.. :-(
[06:33] <killaz> It has to do I think with drivers....
[06:33] <KenSentMe> fat: maybe this page can be helpfull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[06:33] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, the full lsof command of course, i don't know your paritioning and devices there, you do
[06:33] <rdz> roland-erau, i'm sorry, but it seems that i cannot upload to pastebin.com at the moment...
[06:33] <killaz> I have a *yeah I know* a HP PSC500....
[06:34] <neutrinomass> killaz: There was a guy here asking how to uninstall it because he couldn't get used to the permissions and people helped him out - I don't know if he uninstalled it after all .
[06:34] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, here we go with crazy command lines ;-) yea, that mostly shows the open files from running the lsof commands :-). whatever, i think its just logs, no worries
[06:34] <killaz> neutrinomass, hehe no permissions is not my problem.... its the fact I think that my productivuty of the last 2 days dropped...
[06:34] <fat> KenSentMe: thanks
[06:35] <killaz> but I had to get accostumed and had to install everything....
[06:35] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, try watching top for a bit, see if something that sounds like it's a cron job is running, if it's monthly even
[06:35] <neutrinomass> killaz: Oh, you're the kind of person that believes computers get work done ;)
[06:35] <keithhhhh> hey is there anyway for me to see the amount of space left on my hard disk?
[06:35] <killaz> but I'm taking a look on ubuntu forums how to install a HP printer especaly PSC500
[06:35] <neutrinomass> keithhhhh: System->administration->Disks ?
[06:36] <keithhhhh> sorry in the terminal mode
[06:36] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, is there a way for top to show something like hard disk usage? i don't know what the virt/res/shr things mean :-)
[06:36] <killaz> neutrinomass, uhm nope.. I do the work.. but I need the right tools.. and I have to know how to use the tools.. ;-)
[06:36] <neutrinomass> keithhhhh: Or "df -h" from a console
[06:36] <keithhhhh> cool
[06:36] <eyequeue> yoshiznit123, then look under /etc/cron.whatever/ for that file, and determine the culprit LOL
[06:36] <keithhhhh> thanks
[06:36] <wastrel> man top
[06:38] <BobbyGrace> When I generate a key with puttygen, does that give me 1 or 10 keys ? I get 10 lines with keys, but I am not sure how long a key is
[06:39] <NoUse> BobbyGrace one key would be about 10 lines long
[06:39] <killaz> if my computers was able to do all my work for me.... wow I would be a free man...
[06:39] <BobbyGrace> NoUse: thanks
[06:40] <converge> Hello
[06:40] <converge> could somebody help me
[06:40] <_Spire_> converge: sure
[06:40] <NoUse> converge if you ask a question :-)
[06:40] <zombieReagan> converge: sure, i can move a sofa
[06:40] <converge> I installed ubuntu and start to use it
[06:41] <converge> but now I am on windows
[06:41] <scott> :(
[06:41] <KenSentMe> I'm editing a help.ubuntu.com page, and adding a link to an other help page, but the link isn't automatically created. Anyone know why?
[06:41] <converge> cause I cant do something in ubuntu
[06:41] <ScurveyFrog> is it normal to have IO Wait always reaching ~100% when I open any program?
[06:41] <KenSentMe> converge: did the install work?
[06:41] <converge> yeah !
[06:41] <_Spire_> converge: what can't you do in ubuntu?
[06:41] <KenSentMe> converge: great
[06:41] <converge> thank you KenSentMe !
[06:41] <eyequeue> converge, what thing can't you do?
[06:41] <converge> it is working
[06:41] <KenSentMe> converge: no problem
[06:42] <converge> but for example I cant open drive C which windows is installed
[06:42] <converge> it gives error
[06:42] <scott> u need to install ntfs read
[06:42] <_Spire_> !ntfs
[06:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:42] <NoUse> scott ntfs read is built into the default kernel
[06:42] <Chousuke> NTFS read support should be available per default
[06:42] <KenSentMe> converge: maybe you can login to you ubuntu system, then run the Xchat irc client so we can help you with some things
[06:42] <converge> and I tried to delete a file in the example menu but it said I dont have permissinto delete it
[06:42] <Chousuke> I think it's permissions trouble.
[06:42] <scott> NoUse,  :O, didnt know that
[06:42] <roland-erau> rdz, the url was all i was missing, thank you
[06:43] <Chousuke> converge: example menu?
[06:43] <ScurveyFrog> my system is opening programs very slowly, and the gnome system monitor shows IO Wait using about 90% while the process only gets about 10% of the CPU
[06:43] <_Spire_> converge: try using sudo.
[06:43] <Chousuke> no, no.
[06:43] <Chousuke> wait.
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello all, can someone help me get my HP 100 on LPT 1 working?
[06:43] <Chousuke> what file is this?
[06:43] <converge> my modem isnt working on ubuntu
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> 1100
[06:43] <_Spire_> converge: ah. probably it's a winmodem
[06:43] <converge> sorry example folder.it comes with ubuntu
[06:43] <ScurveyFrog> please help!
[06:43] <KenSentMe> converge: ah, what modem do you have?
[06:43] <converge> sagem fast 800
[06:43] <Chousuke> if the regular user doesn't have permission to delete a file, then probably that file should not be deleted
[06:43] <_Spire_> ScurveyFrog: ask the question, and someone probably will
[06:44] <Chousuke> converge: are you running the LiveCD?
[06:44] <NoUse> _Spire_ he did :-)
[06:44] <ScurveyFrog> what could be causing such high IO Wait?
[06:44] <converge> there are example videos and musics there..I cant delete them..but whatever.
[06:44] <converge> first I think I have to i
[06:44] <rdz> i have dual-screen related question too: dualhead works. i have to separate desktops and i cannot move a window from one to the other screen. is there a way also, to have only one desktop on both screens?
[06:44] <converge> install modem
[06:44] <scott> I just googled ur modem and it is supported in linux
[06:44] <rdz> to -> two
[06:44] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog run 'dmesg' and see if its outputs any error messages dealing with IO
[06:44] <KenSentMe> converge: is it a usb modem?
[06:44] <converge> yes it is usb
[06:45] <scott> for example, here is a howto http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=202072
[06:45] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: it shows a lot of messages about wifi0, would that affect every program I open?
[06:45] <scott> or for a specific ubuntu solution: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=189972
[06:45] <converge> I dont know how to connect to internet with ubuntu.and another problem..it is very slow at starting
[06:45] <erUSUL> converge: is rtc modem or xdsl?
[06:46] <converge> it is adsl
[06:46] <converge> I think
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Could someone help me setup a HP 1100 Printer, I cant find the pdd? driver files...
[06:46] <KenSentMe> converge: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144468
[06:46] <scott> converge, look http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=189972 <-- a howto for ubuntu
[06:46] <KenSentMe> converge: check scotts page
[06:47] <erUSUL> converge: model? speedtouch?
[06:47] <Chri[s] > how do i install divx 5 for totem?
[06:47] <converge> but it is very complicated
[06:47] <erUSUL> converge: lsusb will tell you if the modem is conected
[06:47] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog I don't think so
[06:47] <neutrinomass> converge: 'lsusb' please and copy paste the line related to your modem ...
[06:47] <KenSentMe> erUSUL: it's a sagem modem
[06:47] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog have you tried restarting the system?
[06:47] <scott> neutrinomass, he isnt in linux, he is in windows
[06:47] <ScurveyFrog> yes, many times
[06:48] <converge> yes I am in windows
[06:48] <KenSentMe> converge: i know it's complicated, but that seems the only way to get it running
[06:48] <neutrinomass> scott: Ahh ...
[06:48] <KenSentMe> converge: there aren't any linux drivers for now
[06:48] <neutrinomass> converge: Preface: I don't own one of these
[06:49] <neutrinomass> converge: You will need the ueagle-atm* packages, and firmware from www.eagle-usb.org
[06:49] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: I read on the forums that it might be a problem with hald. Do you think that's possible, and if so how can I switch back to an earlier version?
[06:49] <yoshiznit123> eyequeue, if your still there, i found the cause. tail -f /var/log/messages shows a bunch of requests to /dev/hdc (my cdrom) complaining about 'tray open'... but the tray's not open and nothing should be reading it i think?
[06:49] <scott> in short converge easier to buy an adsl router with an ethernet interface so you dont need drivers ;)
[06:49] <erUSUL> converge: si es un sagem es del tipo eagle tienes que instalar eagle-usb-data y eagle-usb-utils
[06:50] <fresch> what are cups tickets?
[06:50] <KenSentMe> scott: that's right
[06:50] <converge> I will be back sorry
[06:50] <_Spire_> is there a way to manually change the speedstep frequency in ubuntu?
[06:50] <dinamizador> de
[06:50] <neutrinomass> converge: He left :(
[06:50] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog run 'sudo /etc/init.d/hald stop' and see if it stops
[06:50] <KenSentMe> erUSUL: he's turkish
[06:50] <Chri[s] > how do i install divx 5 for totem?
[06:50] <KenSentMe> erUSUL: or were you talking turkish too?
[06:51] <_Spire_> !divx > Chri[s] 
[06:51] <_Spire_> Chri[s] : check your PM
[06:51] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: Command not found
[06:51] <Chri[s] > thx _Spire_
[06:51] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: should it be dbus?
[06:51] <_Spire_> I've tried to scale the processor speed with cpufreq-selector, but it doesn't work
[06:51] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: could you tell me your problem in short?
[06:52] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog yes
[06:52] <KenSentMe> Something sounds familiar
[06:52] <yoshiznit123> neutrinomass: i traced the problem to /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/messages... they complain about an open cd tray and i/o error enough for 10 kb every second
[06:52] <erUSUL> KenSentMe: my error i'm spanish.... and .... he has to install  eagle-usb-data and eagle-usb-utils becouse sagem are eagle modems
[06:52] <lsuactiafner> how do i get my 5.1 sound working? it works in windows, i got a 8 channel sound card, i played with the cables, didnt help, Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[06:52] <lsuactiafner> my rear channels are quiet
[06:53] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: Whenever I start a program for the first time (any program) Gnome System Monitor shows 90% IO Wait and only 10% actual CPU usage
[06:53] <lsuactiafner> and when i play a mp3 i only get sound from my front left right speakers
[06:53] <KenSentMe> erUSUL: i read that on the forums, but earlier today i've helped him for an hour to burn an iso cd in windows
[06:53] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: So Ubuntu boots extremely slow, and programs open very slowly
[06:53] <KenSentMe> erUSUL: so a complicated command line howto wont work i think
[06:53] <yoshiznit123> scurveyfrog, that probably means its reading all the data from disk. how fast is your hard drive?
[06:53] <neutrinomass> yoshiznit123: Sorry, no idea what your problem was - I just saw your question about file usage ...
[06:54] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: i've had a slowly booting ubuntu system, but that was because i had smbfs mounted in /etc/fstab
[06:54] <ScurveyFrog> yoshiznit123: I don't know, it's a laptop
[06:54] <erUSUL> KenSentMe: there is a how to in the wiki for set-up eagle modems in ubuntu. the drivers come in the cd
[06:54] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: there is a bug in hald
[06:54] <yoshiznit123> neutrinomass, that thing from earlier (something eating up disk space), its the logs, and somethings trying to open cdrom and complaining about an open tray (but its not open)...
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ANYONE here know how to install a printer?
[06:55] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: do you know of any fixes?
[06:55] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: system > administration > printing
[06:55] <yoshiznit123> scurveyfrog, when its blocking on i/o its usually the hard disk, if you run a program a second time does it run faster?
[06:55] <neutrinomass> KenSentMe: You need the ueagle-atm* packages (which you will have to compile from source) to get the modem working on Dapper ...
[06:55] <ScurveyFrog> yoshiznit123: yes, definitely faster
[06:55] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: System>Admin>Printers?
[06:55] <MasterC> how can I block packages, so that the old version is kept?
[06:56] <KenSentMe> neutrinomass: i know that, but i think that's a little to much for converge to do
[06:56] <neutrinomass> KenSentMe: AFAIK that is - I don't own such a modem. They have replaced the eagle-usb packages since kernel 2.6.10 ...
[06:56] <KenSentMe> neutrinomass: he's the one who wants to install the modem
[06:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell MasterC about pinning
[06:56] <neutrinomass> KenSentMe: I'm trying my best : http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUsbAdsl
[06:56] <yoshiznit123> neutrinomass, HAHA found it :-). wtf, 3 totems were running and looking for a cd. meh, its fixed. thanks :-)
[06:57] <neutrinomass> yoshiznit123: lol. happy it worked out
[06:57] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: to fix the smbfs bug in hald, the only good way to do it, is removing mounted smbfs from fsab
[06:57] <rockz> did anyone install twiki on ubuntu?
[06:57] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: but that maybe not the problem you have
[06:57] <yoshiznit123> neutrinomass, which was in turn causing klogd to use 50% cpu. :-)
[06:58] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: I don't see anywhere in fstab that is says 'smbfs'
[06:59] <DShepher1> hey
[06:59] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: then you have an other problem
[06:59] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: actually it could be, I had a samba drive mounted on my desktop
[06:59] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: but that should not give any errors
[07:00] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: yeah, but isn't smbfs - samba?
[07:00] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: well anyway, I unmounted it and it makes no difference
[07:01] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: thought so
[07:02] <ScurveyFrog> I tried a workaround that said to put a line in grub so that it doesn't mount the dvd drive. It helped some, but didn't fix it completely, and sucks cause I'm down a dvd drive
[07:03] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: I still have high IO Wait and long load times, just not quite as bad
[07:03] <Stork> is cdrecord supposed to output any data when recording?
[07:04] <dsas> Stork: Maybe not, traditionally apps only output warnings and errors. If it appears to have hung, it may be best to leave it for a bit.
[07:05] <Stork> the light on my CD-R drive still indicates that something is writing
[07:05] <Stork> and it's still making noises
[07:05] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: is it possible to revert to an earlier version of hald?
[07:05] <Stork> so maybe it is still going
[07:06] <KenSentMe> ScurveyFrog: i don't know, sorry
[07:07] <buzzed> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/restricted/source/Sources.bz2: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_restricted_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:07] <KenSentMe> !tell buzzed about paste
[07:08] <buzzed> i understand paste but it was all on one line...
[07:08] <KenSentMe> buzzed: ah, sorry then
[07:09] <irvr> I tried the ubuntu-kernel channel with this question but did not not get the right answer. I lost all sound in ubuntu 6.06 when I updated to the the latest kernel (25). If I go back to kernel (23) I get my sound back. My question is if I boot with the new kernel, how do I get my sound to work again with it?
[07:10] <jago25_98> Nobody is helping me with my problem on the forums. Where is the cheapest place to get help in ENglish?
[07:11] <Zauephuaes> jago25_98: try goole
[07:11] <buzzed> obviously i am working with easyubuntu
[07:11] <Zauephuaes> google, even
[07:11] <buzzed> next error
[07:11] <trappist> in cron, is sunday the first day of the week, or the first?
[07:11] <buzzed> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:11] <buzzed> who can i resolve this?
[07:11] <buzzed> or how
[07:13] <irvr> Let me post this again: I tried the ubuntu-kernel channel with this question but did not not get the right answer. I lost all sound in ubuntu 6.06 when I updated to the the latest kernel (25). If I go back to kernel (23) I get my sound back. My question is if I boot with the new kernel, how do I get my sound to work again with it?
[07:13] <nickrud> buzzed, the us repos are notoriously unreliable, gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove all the occurances of us. <-- note period
[07:13] <Sanne> jago25_98, maybe somebody here can help, just ask :)
[07:14] <axa-axa> hi, I'm running 6.06 Ubuntu, and apache, mysql and php5. I have installed torrent_flux (wev php torrent manager) and php_mysq and php_mysql, but when I try to load torrent flux I get:
[07:14] <axa-axa> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in
[07:14] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: Sorry, I killed hald, and that pretty much dumped my system
[07:14] <axa-axa> /home/ax/public_html/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 354
[07:14] <ScurveyFrog> KenSentMe: but now you at least know how long it takes me to boot
[07:14] <axa-axa> can someone please tell me how can I fix this error?
[07:14] <emitraxx> hi!
[07:15] <ScurveyFrog> axa_axa: have you tried installing mysql?
[07:15] <emitraxx> how do turn off login options on cups ?
[07:15] <axa-axa> ScurveyFrog: I already have mysql
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Jago, I have not seen much help here on anything.  Try #Mepis for general debian linux help
[07:15] <emitraxx> I tried with "AuthType None" but it still asks me for user and password
[07:15] <emitraxx> why is that ?
[07:15] <jago25_98> ok, networking isn't running on startup, it just halts. Where do I start? It happened on upgrade to dapper
[07:16] <xbeanx> How can I get more printer drivers?  I have an HP4600 and the driver is not listed :(
[07:16] <ScurveyFrog> does anyone know if it's possible to roll hald back to a previous version?
[07:17] <_absolution_> I have a problem
[07:17] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i add my applicationmenu to the right mouse button?
[07:17] <_absolution_> I made my terminal transparent.....and I can't seem to undo it
[07:17] <axa-axa> Anyone?
[07:18] <doctorshim> xbeanx: hp4600-color module?
[07:18] <MrObvious> _absolution_: What kind of terminal program?
[07:18] <Nanaki_yamabushi> hi all
[07:18] <funtable> hi
[07:18] <Nanaki_yamabushi> I got a problem with Ubuntu after install
[07:18] <Ackeubu_> _absolution_ change youre desktop background?
[07:19] <scott> what is your problem?
[07:19] <_absolution_> is there some way to change the font colour?
[07:19] <andii> how can i create a folder with disk used and freespace?
[07:19] <trappist> andii: huh?
[07:19] <Nanaki_yamabushi> Well after booting it ask me in text mode to enter my account name and password. I just can't get my password typed in on my dell laptop
[07:20] <scott> whys that? does it not type in? ur keyboard not work?
[07:20] <andii> need it to a crontab so i can see how many gig i have used and whats left
[07:20] <Ackeubu_> what is the name of gnome control panel?
[07:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Nanaki_yamabushi:  your Dell Password or Ubuntu password
[07:20] <trappist> andii: df or df -h will tell you that
[07:20] <Nanaki_yamabushi> my ubuntu password
[07:21] <trappist> andii: but I don't know what you mean about creating a directory
[07:21] <grodius> how do i remove a package?
[07:21] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, you mean the program name?
[07:21] <smev9> know a howto - flash for 64bit ubuntu ?
[07:21] <trappist> grodius: apt-get remove
[07:21] <andii> trappist, did a df -h > lala.html but also need it to create a folder with disk left and used
[07:21] <gnomefreak> grodius: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:21] <scott> sudo apt-get remove
[07:21] <bon_> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work
[07:21] <NickGarvey> smev9: oh oh wait me I can get one, I did it once
[07:21] <trappist> smev9: look for a 32bit chroot howto
[07:21] <Ackeubu_> Sanne yeah
[07:21] <gnomefreak> grodius: unless you installed it with dpkg
[07:22] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, I tell you how you can find out for yourself, ok?
[07:22] <grodius> thanks guys
[07:22] <trappist> smev9: you're going to have to run your browser from a 32bit chroot to get flash, java, etc.
[07:22] <Ackeubu_> Sanne okay
[07:22] <trappist> andii: I'm sorry I still don't know what you need
[07:22] <smev9> okay thanks chroot, then
[07:23] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, open a terminal, type gnome, hit TAB twice. It shows you all commands starting with gnome. Try to find one that looks like a control center.
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> I need help getting an HP 100 printer to work on LPT1 and I cant find the driver files when I try to install it.
[07:23] <Nanaki_yamabushi> Jack_sparrow: I can enter my name, but not my ubuntu password.
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> nan is there a place to enter password if the name you enter is correct?
[07:23] <Ackeubu_> Sanne thanks alot ^-
[07:23] <Nanaki_yamabushi> yes
[07:23] <bon_> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work this is my xorg log - http://pastebin.ca/69207
[07:24] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, got it? :)
[07:24] <_absolution_> I thought it didn't show shadows on the passwords
[07:24] <kupo> howdy channel
[07:24] <Nanaki_yamabushi> Jack_sparrow: I enter my name, the next line say password, but I can't type any char in it.
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Nan, just reinstall, dont have a magic key for passwords
[07:24] <Consty> how can you have ckfs run at ubuntu boot to check the file system?  I dont want to run it when the partition is mounted so I'del ike to do it at boot
[07:24] <_absolution_> or is that just for the terminal?
[07:24] <kupo> anyone handy with wireless pci cards ?
[07:24] <andii> trappist, need to create a folder that shows how mutch space that are used and how mutch that are left like: "[20gigleft/10gigused] " or something like that
[07:24] <malachi> Is X-Chat 2 included in Synaptic?
[07:24] <Ackeubu_> Sanne yeah, but there where no option for changing mouse button actions, would you know?
[07:24] <malachi> Is X-Chat 2 included in Synaptic?
[07:25] <trappist> andii: folders don't do anything except contain files and other directories
[07:25] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  that is normal, your password is being read in, but it doesn't show anything
[07:25] <tim_> hello, can somebdoy please tell me how to activete/deactive CPU throtling? thanks
[07:25] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, not right now, lemme check if I can find it.
[07:25] <malachi> Is X-Chat 2 included in Synaptic?
[07:25] <garar> hi
[07:25] <wastrel> malachi:  yes
[07:25] <_absolution_> yeah, that's what I meant
[07:25] <elijahblue> is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD?
[07:25] <malachi> [I'm lagging. Sorry if I posted multiple times.] 
[07:25] <wastrel> malachi:  it's in universe.  xchat is the package name
[07:25] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: but it also say wrong password. or what fully happens?
[07:25] <malachi> Okay, thanks.
[07:26] <Arc> i need help with my usb modem
[07:26] <andii> trappist, i know, thats why i need a script that creates a folder(s) that shows df -h
[07:26] <Ackeubu_> Sanne yeah please
[07:26] <kupo> Hey channel anyone familiar with getting Hawkings wireless cards working under Ubuntu ? ( HWP54G rev T)
[07:26] <bon_> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work this is my xorg log - http://pastebin.ca/69207 i have a feeling it something to do with kernil headers and fonts and the nvidia 8617 driver i have tryed to reinstall the nvidia drivers but it says there is already one installed and i dont know how to uninstall it so i can reinstall it
[07:26] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  are you sure you're using the correct password?
[07:26] <trappist> andii: folders don't show anything.  they just contain files.
[07:26] <elijahblue> is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz?
[07:26] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: yes one sec
[07:27] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: what do I see when I succesfully loged in?
[07:27] <malachi> In order to uninstall something, do I need to keep the deb package/source tar?
[07:27] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, well, if you open the mouse preferences from gnome-control-center, there's an option for left handed mouse. is that what you mean?
[07:27] <xbeanx> doctorshim: yes///
[07:27] <kupo> is that the one with barbs on the inside?
[07:27] <andii> trappist, if a script makes me a folder with name: [20gigused/20gigleft] , and are empty, then i know how mutch space i have left and so on
[07:27] <kupo> Hey channel anyone familiar with getting Hawkings wireless cards working under Ubuntu ? ( HWP54G rev T)
[07:27] <_absolution_> how would I install "fluxbox"?
[07:28] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  it should give you a prompt that looks like   username@hostname:~$
[07:28] <trappist> andii: so you want the *name* of the folder to have that stuff.
[07:28] <Ackeubu_> Sanne, no, in kde i can put the applications menu on my right mouse button when clicking desktop.
[07:28] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel with a bit of text before like in big letter absolutely no warrenty?
[07:28] <eclypse> hey all
[07:28] <buzzed> nickrud: Your sources.list does not match your system configuration.
[07:28] <buzzed> Either you have changed your sources.list or an system
[07:28] <buzzed> upgrade has failed. EasyUbuntu will not run unless these are fixed!
[07:28] <andii> trappist, i want a folder that shows how space used and left
[07:28] <eclypse> quick command/network question
[07:29] <eclypse> is it possible to connect to a remote host using the terminal, through they're port 80?
[07:29] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  yes
[07:29] <billybennett> How do I reconnect a samba mount since I'm on a laptop I lose it when I travel
[07:29] <eclypse> and run commands to them
[07:29] <eclypse> is it possible to connect to a remote host using the terminal, through they're port 80?
[07:29] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: waht is the command to go unto the desktop?
[07:29] <Sanne> Ackeubu_, ah, I see. I don't know then, because I usually don't use Gnome. In general, Gnome has less options than KDE, so maybe that's why? Sorry, somebody else nedds to step in ;)
[07:29] <wastrel> eclypse:  if the remote host is running ssh or telnet listening on port 80
[07:29] <Arc> usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/002/007 reports "cdc-acm"
[07:29] <Arc> this is the usb modem module
[07:29] <eclypse> wastrel, what command would I use to connect to them?
[07:30] <Arc> however, it's not being detected as a usb modem in dmesg
[07:30] <Ackeubu_> Sanne thanks alot
[07:30] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  if the X server is configured properly it should start with   startx
[07:30] <nickrud> buzzed, I know nothing about easyubuntu, never used it. I use the sources at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[07:30] <wastrel> eclypse:  ssh hostname.of.remote.system
[07:30] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: so the command is startx?
[07:30] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  yes
[07:30] <eclypse> wastrel, what do you mean by hostname?
[07:31] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel= it stays -bash: startx: command not found.
[07:31] <wastrel> eclypse:  er you want port 80?    ssh remote.host:80
[07:31] <eclypse> so
[07:31] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  you don't have a graphical interface installed
[07:31] <eclypse> how would I intentify they're ip in such a situation?
[07:31] <k31th> Anyone got any logitech webcams working in nix ?
[07:31] <lms> Nanaki_yamabushi, try sudo startx
[07:31] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: how do I install it?
[07:32] <wastrel> eclypse:  ssh -p 80 <ipaddress>  sorry that should work.
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Nanaki_yamabushi:  HAve you gotten into Ubuntu at all?
[07:32] <eclypse> k
[07:32] <eclypse> thanks
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> What CD did you use for your install?
[07:32] <trappist> andii: mkdir "$(df -h | egrep '/$' | awk '{print $3 " used,",$4 " left"}')"
[07:32] <billybennett> How can I easily reconnect a samba mount since I'm on a laptop I lose it when I travel??
[07:32] <richard_> Is there a way to run simple .exe files on Ubuntu
[07:32] <wastrel> eclypse:  are you sure that the remote system is running a ssh server at port 80?   80 is the web port usually a web server is on that port
[07:32] <Inner|RE> any particular reason why wine freezes up on me when i try to install chessrally?
[07:32] <trappist> billybennett: umount -l, then remount
[07:32] <Nanaki_yamabushi> Jack_sparrow: the one from the ubuntu download site. i am still waiting for the shipit ones and wanted to try already. I got the desktop one.
[07:33] <andii> thanks trappist :D
[07:33] <Stork> DCC SEND hello
[07:33] <Hawkwind> LOL
[07:33] <eclypse> wastrel, when I run brutus on that IP port 80 is the only one that gives me info
[07:33] <Nanaki_yamabushi> jack_sparrow: and I am a first timer a, NOOB
[07:33] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <eclypse> indicating that it is an open port. wastrel.
[07:33] <converge> I cant use UBUNTU
[07:33] <converge> cant delete files
[07:33] <wastrel> eclypse:  that means only that some service is on 80 - probably a web server, not ssh
[07:33] <mnemnonic> Can somebody tell me how to configure the hard-limit for open files (I think formerly it was in /etc/logins.def)
[07:33] <converge> cant connect internet
[07:33] <converge> nothing
[07:33] <converge> !
[07:33] <eclypse> wastrel, in that situation, what should I do?
[07:34] <grodius> Hi i'm trying to install the GAIM beta and when I sudo make it says theres no Makefile found, what am i doing wrong?
[07:34] <andii> trappist, is it possible to remove that folder and create a another one every 5 minutes?
[07:34] <_absolution_> con what does it say?
[07:34] <k31th> Anyone got any logitech webcams working in ubuntu ?
[07:34] <mnemnonic> ... in Dapper Drake I mean
[07:34] <trappist> andii: yes
[07:34] <wastrel> eclypse:  do you have access to the system via the console?
[07:34] <Nanaki_yamabushi> Wastrel: will it take bout 1.6gb?
[07:34] <converge> could somebody help me ?
[07:34] <Consty> how can I run file system check to fix errors on my partition when ubuntu loads up?  I can't run it while it's already mounted
[07:34] <billybennett> trappist, do I have to remount the samba everytime I come back to my network?
[07:34] <eclypse> wastrel, I have the name and password to it, so I'm sure I would
[07:34] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  it will tell you how much space it will take.
[07:34] <he-man> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 and when I reboot the first time (if I installed from desktop cd) or install the alternate cd, the computer gets frozen just before entering gdm. Anyone knows why?
[07:34] <andii> trappist, can you help me with that?
[07:35] <trappist> billybennett: I've never used samba in an environment where I get disconnected a lot, so I'm not sure.  but if you need to remount, that's one way to do it.
[07:35] <he-man> if didn't happen with the prerelease, maybe a kernel issue?
[07:35] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: can we talk in a private IM. it will be easier for me
[07:35] <converge> could somebody help me please
[07:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Converge Please stop, define your question with details such as modem type, what files you are trying to delete etc... If you want help that is...
[07:35] <trappist> andii: you've reached your quote of shell kung fu help from me for today :)
[07:35] <billybennett> okay, thanks trappist
[07:35] <trappist> s/quote/quota/
[07:35] <rverrips> converge - What's the prob?
[07:35] <andii> hehe
[07:35] <converge> my modem is sagem fast 800
[07:36] <converge> I cant configure it in ubuntu
[07:36] <elijahblue> plzzzz is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz?
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> No drivers... get a router... next problem...
[07:36] <converge> my user name is dinarmustafa@ttnet
[07:36] <converge> but I cant even - @ - to it
[07:36] <rverrips> Sorry converge - Can't help with modems ...
[07:36] <eclypse> wastrel, you there?
[07:36] <elijahblue> converge: are u on BSNL broadband?
[07:36] <converge> what is bsnl ?
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> asdsl
[07:37] <bon_> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work this is my xorg log - http://pastebin.ca/69207 i have a feeling it something to do with kernil headers and fonts and the nvidia 8617 driver i have tryed to reinstall the nvidia drivers but it says there is already one installed and i dont know how to uninstall it so i can reinstall it and this is my xorg.conf file
[07:37] <Consty> Anyone know how to force a file system check upon boot?
[07:37] <wastrel> got a phone call
[07:37] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: looks like it is installing now. Is there a good site with a nice linux/debian/ubuntu manual for noobs?
[07:37] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  no it is better to do it in the channel
[07:37] <he-man> bon_: I've got the same problem
[07:37] <bon_> http://pastebin.ca/69213
[07:37] <eclypse> wastrel, I see. well I have the user name and password, so I would assume I have access to this IP via consol
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Consty, mine checks on every 30 boots automatically
[07:37] <eclypse> wastel, what would I do?
[07:37] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:38] <Lancellor> anyone could helpme i can't conect to the internet
[07:38] <wastrel> eclypse:  but you don't have physical access to the machine?
[07:38] <grodius> what program should I use for rars
[07:38] <Consty> Jack_Sparrow: Right, how can I basically set that # to 30, where is that # located?
[07:38] <bon_> he-man what have you been trying?
[07:38] <elijahblue> plzzzz is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz?
[07:38] <converge> and I tried to delete something in example folder..but it said you dont have permission to delete this file
[07:38] <eclypse> wastrel, no
[07:38] <mnemnonic> Consty: You could try tune2fs ... set the maximum mount count to 1
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont know mine was that way by default, just saw it for the first time this morning
[07:38] <he-man> bon_: I don't know what to do for now
[07:38] <gnomefreak> grodius: unrar-nonfree  i think is the name of it
[07:38] <Inner|RE> lancellor? arent you on the internet?
[07:38] <scott> coverage example folder is read only
[07:39] <scott> converge, even
[07:39] <bon_> i have been trying for about 6 hours now
[07:39] <he-man> bon_: My problem is when I start ubuntu, it loads just before having to get in the enter my name screen. And there, it gets with the cursor waiting icon and a black background
[07:39] <wastrel> eclypse:  if you try ssh <ip>  and telnet <ip>  and  ssh -p 80 <ip>  and  telnet <ip>  80  and none of those work, you'll need to contact the administratior and see how you're supposed to connect to it.
[07:39] <scott> if you want to delete go in console and sudo rm <filename>
[07:39] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: does does the ubuntu desktop get installed over the internet?
[07:39] <he-man> bon_: I hadn't this problem with the prerreleases
[07:39] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  yes
[07:39] <Lancellor> that is the problem i have mi mac and my ubuntu laptop conected to a router but for some reason only the mac gives me internet conection
[07:39] <Jack_Sparrow> converge:  you could change the permissions settings for those files and folders then delete them
[07:39] <he-man> bon_:so maybe it's an issue with the kernel?
[07:40] <eclypse> wastrel, so there isant some simple method?
[07:40] <eclypse> wastrel, like I said, I DO have a username and password.
[07:40] <converge> okay but first...I need to connect internet with ubuntu
[07:40] <converge> I cant do that
[07:40] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: I just saw it. So if you had no valid internet connection, then you can't install the desktop?
[07:40] <converge> I tried alot
[07:40] <converge> I am losing my respect to ubuntu :(
[07:40] <BrianG> can anyone tell me why ALSA isn't working for my Santa Cruz?
[07:40] <bon_> he-man: i noticed the update update the kernel headers so something got broke
[07:40] <Lancellor> i'm using my mac but from my laptop i conect to my router but no internet
[07:41] <grodius> gnomefreak, why use nonfree over free?
[07:41] <wastrel> eclypse:  well try http://<ip>  in your browser maybe,  otherwise, there's no way to get in, if the system isn't running a service that allows you to log in.
[07:41] <he-man> converge: sure you can, but maybe it's not the easiest thing in the world
[07:41] <priich>  consty, sudo touch /forcefsck
[07:41] <jeldert> I need some help
[07:41] <bon_> he-man: problly thurd party nvidia drivers
[07:41] <elijahblue> plzzzz is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz?
[07:41] <paolob> Hi guys! In dapper, I have a problem installing backuppc, when setting up the package it says: "/var/lib/dpkg/info/backuppc.postinst: line 45: /usr/share/wwwconfig-common/apache-include_all.sh: No such file or directory" Any idea? thank you!
[07:41] <gnomefreak> grodius: it works better than the free version
[07:41] <he-man> bon_: I was thinking of that
[07:41] <gnomefreak> !rar
[07:41] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:41] <jeldert> can someone start AisleRot Solitaire, click on Select Game, and tell me what game type is selected?
[07:41] <bon_> he-man: but i dont know how to reinstall them
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Converge, XP is on sale.... at lame wine-ers, online store...  Try reading the posts where people are trying to help you.
[07:41] <zipper_> I dont get this... In xgl, i've got everything on my keyboard working, keypad, country specific chars (), but my AltGr key is deader than dead. Anyone knows what i'm doing wrong?
[07:41] <he-man> bon_: maybe if I make an install of the nvidia drivers, this gets working again
[07:42] <Nanaki_yamabushi> lancellor: I am on my laptop behind a router and I have internet, and I am a nood to linux and ubuntu.
[07:42] <CarlFK> Consty: do you want to check the / fs, or one that you can umount ?
[07:42] <lampshade> Anyone able to get the rar packages in the repos?  I haven't been able to get to them for days
[07:42] <he-man> bon_: I'm gonna try with the safe mode and I'll come back as soon as I do it to tell you
[07:42] <gnomefreak> !rar > lampshade
[07:42] <bon_> he-man: cool
[07:42] <joyce> hoi
[07:42] <Lancellor> i know it was working before but stop working
[07:42] <gnomefreak> lampshade: please read your pm and make sure you have multiverse repo enabled
[07:42] <elijahblue> plzzzz is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz?
[07:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Lancellor: was the modem and router on when you installed ub
[07:42] <lampshade> gnomefreak: it is, it just isn't working.  That's why I asked
[07:43] <Inner|RE> anyone know any chess programs for linux?
[07:43] <jeldert> can someone start AisleRot Solitaire, click on Select Game, and tell me what game type is selected?
[07:43] <joyce> i'm netherlands
[07:43] <he-man> elijahblue: maybe you should try the alternate cd
[07:43] <lampshade> I didn't ask what a rar file was but why the repo doesn't seem to work for me all of a sudden.  I was wondering if it was down for others or just me
[07:43] <he-man> bye
[07:43] <gnomefreak> lampshade: hold on a sec
[07:43] <jeldert> joyce: join #ubuntu-nl
[07:43] <spikeb> jeldert: klondike
[07:43] <Lancellor> yes i was using internet for a while the mac is my wife's computer an the laptop i mine
[07:43] <lampshade> unless it is a totally different repo? or something?  Multiverse I have and use a lot
[07:43] <Nanaki_yamabushi> Jack_sparrow: that is a good question, I got it once wrong with my Wlan card, which was disabled. it says not avaible
[07:43] <haitike> someone know how to use a "kss" screensaver in ubuntu?
[07:44] <bon_> i have got problems starting x, i did an update and restarted and it didnt work this is my xorg log - http://pastebin.ca/69207 i have a feeling it something to do with kernil headers and fonts and the nvidia 8617 driver i have tryed to reinstall the nvidia drivers but it says there is already one installed and i dont know how to uninstall it so i can reinstall it and this is my xorg.conf file
[07:44] <Nanaki_yamabushi> join #ubunut-de
[07:44] <jeldert> spikeb: thanks man :D1
[07:44] <spikeb> jeldert: you bet
[07:44] <bon_> http://pastebin.ca/69213
[07:44] <haitike> someone know how to use a "kss" screensaver in ubuntu?
[07:44] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  the desktop should be on the install cd also, you may have chosen the server install
[07:44] <sorush20> hi guys does anyone know of a linux compatible dictaphone?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> lampshade: sudo apt-get install unrar   it works just fine
[07:45] <wastrel> unrar is in multiverse
[07:45] <gnomefreak> lampshade: make sure the multiverse you have enabled is multiverse and universe _not_ the backports universe and multiverse
[07:45] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: I went to the default installation. I saw no options on how to set it to install it too.
[07:45] <lampshade> gnomefreak: I was using synaptic.  Backports aren't enabled
[07:45] <converge> I think I cant do it
[07:45] <lampshade> I will try with just apt-get on the terminal
[07:45] <wastrel> dunno.. i'm no expert on the installer, only used it once :] 
[07:45] <gnomefreak> lampshade: i just did it on dapper
[07:46] <gnomefreak> lampshade: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[07:47] <elijahblue> plzzzz is there any way to format and install to reiserfs partition using desktop CD plz? ive been asking so many times :(
[07:47] <Flyoc> hi
[07:47] <lampshade> oh wtf, I just tried it again and it worked for me in synaptic.  No sources editing or anything...  this was down for me a few days ago I thought it was just the internet but after it didn't work today I came in here.  haha After you said it worked I tried synaptic again and blam it downloaded it
[07:47] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: LOL I used it 5 times to get the partitioning right
[07:48] <gnomefreak> elijahblue: not from desktop installer
[07:48] <_absolution_> I'm trying to install a fluxbox...and I tried using the "apt-get" command....it doesn't work
[07:48] <Flyoc> how are locale managed with ubuntu ? (ie how can I install new ones and set the default one) ?
[07:48] <Lancellor> i did upgrades and i use the for long time when i go to firefox i type my router ip address and i can connect to router with no problem i just don't know why i don't have internet
[07:48] <_absolution_> it says "failed to fetch"
[07:48] <gnomefreak> _absolution_: do you have universe repo enabled?
[07:48] <Cntryboy> mm
[07:48] <doctorshim> gnomefreak: you sure? I could swear I saw an option for RieserFS in the Gnome Partition Editor.
[07:48] <Cntryboy> im lagging badly lol
[07:48] <elijahblue> gnomefreak: any command i can give at boot to install in reiserfs?
[07:48] <_absolution_> yeah
[07:48] <lampshade> anyway, thanks for the help gnomefreak.  No idea.  Maybe my internet just had issues or something...
[07:48] <gnomefreak> doctorshim: i didnt see it in the desktop cd
 whats reiserfs
[07:48] <_absolution_> first it says "err"
[07:48] <converge> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-<yourkernelversion> eagle-usb-data eagle-usb-utils
[07:49] <converge> where will I write this ?
[07:49] <pekay> is there a way to take a screenshot of a DVD?
[07:49] <elijahblue> bon_: its a kind of linux filesystem, like ext3, or ntfs in windows
[07:49] <Cntryboy> anyone know how I can tell linux to use gthumb viewer instead of default image viewer?
[07:49] <lampshade> pekay: if you can watch it in VLC, vlc lets you do it.  I think it is like F5 or something
[07:49] <gnomefreak> bon_: its a file system
[07:49] <FarrisG> Anyone know of a simple HowTo on getting dual displays to work for a laptop (integrated Intel chipset) under Dapper?
[07:49] <lampshade> pekay: check in the preferences and you should see it listed
[07:49] <_absolution_> should I update?
[07:49] <Cntryboy> I have a bunch of digital pics I put on here and need to brighten some up, gthumb viewer will while the default image viewer can't edit at all.
[07:50] <lampshade> pekay: also, the other programs might have that function too,  I am just less experienced with those.
[07:50] <gnomefreak> !defaultapp > Cntryboy
[07:50] <zipper_> I dont get this... In xgl, i've got everything on my keyboard working, keypad, country specific chars (), but my AltGr key is deader than dead. Anyone knows what i'm doing wrong?
[07:50] <Gullstad> !goto
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Cntryboy: read the pm from bot it tells you how
[07:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about goto
[07:50] <Gullstad> What is the goto kommand for bash shell?
[07:50] <gnomefreak> zipper_: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:50] <gnomefreak> Gullstad: you mean cd?
[07:50] <Spec> zipper_: it's not deadier than dead unless you press it and it's bound to xkill or kills a random pid, or init
[07:51] <k31th> what app can i use to see if my webcam is working
[07:51] <Gullstad> gnomefreak: No, in a script. To jump between kommandlines
[07:51] <gnomefreak> ah
[07:51] <pekay> llamp: alright will see :] 
 dont know much about reiserfs file system google - forums
[07:51] <pekay> lampshade: alright will see :] 
[07:51] <paolob> Guys, when restarting apache2 I get "grep: /etc/apache2/conf.d/[^.#] *: No such file or directory". What does it mean? thank you!
[07:52] <_absolution_> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2).....what does that mean??
[07:52] <cavediver> Hi, is desktop cd the former live cd and alternate the one with text-installer ?
[07:52] <zipper_> gnomefreak, thanks
[07:52] <Nanaki_yamabushi> I for sure did not download the live cd hehe.
[07:52] <gnomefreak> _absolution_: get rid of the us. please type this in command line sed -e 's/us\.//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <converge> I understand nothing about them
[07:53] <k31th> what app can i use to see if my webcam is working
[07:53] <BrianG> can anyone tell me why ALSA isn't working for my Santa Cruz? I've unmuted eveything, cranked everything, yadda yadda.. nothing written is helping at all.
[07:53] <gnomefreak> cavediver: yes
[07:53] <converge> please just tell me what I have to do to connect internet with my sagem fast modem :(
[07:54] <Nanaki_yamabushi> wastrel: stupid question... but you know an URL with games for linux?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> !webcam > k31th
[07:54] <gnomefreak> k31th: check the om from ubotu
[07:54] <gnomefreak> s/om/from
[07:54] <wastrel> Nanaki_yamabushi:  i don't play games :] 
[07:54] <dr_willis> google for the "linux game tome" - lots of info
[07:55] <gnomefreak> !games
[07:55] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:55] <wastrel> well except nethack
[07:55] <dr_willis> nethack is a way of life.
[07:55] <dr_willis> :P
[07:55] <dr_willis> but last i played it - they removed all the cheats i knew of.
[07:55] <spikeb> heh
[07:55] <dr_willis> couldent take my pickaxe into the store...
[07:55] <pekay> lampshade: :o Kaffeine does it :D
[07:55] <pekay> ty
[07:56] <Arc> can anyone help me get this USB modem working under dapper?  i know it's supported by linux 2.6.15
[07:56] <sticc> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4955425840773126414
[07:56] <sticc> ^ it's mistake...
[07:56] <stamen> 
[07:56] <sticc> soryy... wrong clipboard, don't watch it ;)
[07:56] <stamen> hi\
[07:56] <stamen> I have installed ogle DVD player true ADept
[07:57] <stamen> but I can't start it
[07:57] <sticc> why there are no options in kcontrol --> System settings --> Regional settings and accesability? what package i have missed?  < that's what i wanted to say
[07:57] <stamen> what to do
[07:57] <andii> how can i make folder with path to the folder im in? like im in my download folder in console and it creates a folder with name: "/home/andii/Desktop/download/"?
[07:57] <xenex> how do i search my whole computer for a certain keyword?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> stamen: ask in #kubuntu <best place for kde questions>
[07:57] <stamen> andii: try with link
[07:57] <eclypse> is it possible to change my IP address? I'm a dialup user btw.
[07:57] <stamen> gnomefreak: ok
[07:57] <Arc> root@Red:~# usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/002/002
[07:57] <Arc> cdc-acm
[07:57] <gnomefreak> damn
[07:57] <wastrel> xenex:  filename or file contents?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> stamen: not you
[07:57] <jasonm> Hello, is there anyone around that can offer me some help with adding packages. im new to ubuntu. ive checked the wiki site and i think its just a matter of me typing the commands in the terminal wrong. i found the package i need on the package site and downloaded it to the desktop but i still dont know how to install it from there.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> sticc: try in #kubuntu
[07:58] <xenex> i guess filename. i am trying to find where the checkgmail icon is located since i am making my own shortcut
[07:58] <jasonjdp> anybody have the problem of larger than default screen resolutions not always being selectable when Ubuntu boots up?  my xorg.conf is edited to allow 1600x1200 but when i first boot up my pc ubuntu seems to not read it.  i have to ctrl-alt-bksp to get it to load
[07:58] <sticc> gnomefreak: i'm trying :(
[07:58] <wastrel> xenex:  try  locate <keyword>
[07:58] <eclypse> anyone know if its possible to change your IP address?
[07:58] <eclypse> I'm a dialup user btw.
[07:59] <jasonjdp> dial up again and you should get a new ip
[07:59] <eclypse> but I didn't.
[07:59] <MattSta> i am still having troubles installing wine
[07:59] <eclypse> perhaps re-dial in combination with restarting?
[07:59] <Archville> Hello.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> xenex: you mean gmail-notifier?
[07:59] <MattSta> can anyone help
[07:59] <wastrel> jasonm:  any reason you're not using synaptic?
[07:59] <Archville> I have a strange problem with Wine. This is the output:
[07:59] <Dial_tone> depends how long the ip lease is; wait a minute or three
[07:59] <xenex> no checkgmail. www.checkgmail.sf.net
[07:59] <Archville> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": /usr/bin/../lib/libXext.so.6: undefined symbol: XESedFreeFont
[07:59] <Jowi> andii: "ln -s /home&andii/Desktop/download ." should do it (the dot at the end represents the folder you are currently located at.
[08:00] <Archville>  any clue on what's going on ?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> oh ok sorry xenex
[08:00] <jasonjdp> eclypse, you sure you arent looking at your local ip address?
[08:00] <Jowi> andii: replace the & with / of course. type
[08:00] <andii> Jowi, i need it to a script
[08:00] <eclypse> jasonjdp, yes
[08:00] <Archville> I've tried reinstalling Wine, deleting .wine in /home and the error is still there.
[08:00] <k31th> wats the package i want for kernel source in daqpper?
[08:00] <k31th> dapper
[08:00] <eclypse> jasonjdp, see, I kinda hacked someone, and they traced me lol. so they're threatening to report my IP
[08:00] <jasonjdp> eclypse, hmm, dunno then sorry, havent dialed up in a long time...
[08:00] <Archville> Executing wine something.exe or winecfg
[08:01] <Jowi> andii: you can use "cd" to change directory in a bash script as well
[08:01] <jasonjdp> eclypse, lol
[08:01] <jasonm> wastrel, no reason. im new to linux i wasnty sure the correct method for ubuntu. i tried synaptic first and the packages i wanted didnt show up in the search,
[08:01] <Nanaki_yamabushi> I will be using AIM and Yahoo for linux, they have now linux version. Anyone know an ICQ alternative for linux? where you still work with ICQ as in ICQ2000b?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> k31th: you should only need the kernel-headers package it is rare to need kernel-source
[08:01] <eclypse> jasonjdp, yeah, I didn't have my firewall stoping them from tracing me so, yeah
[08:01] <bina> eclypse: wont yout ISP keep a log of your IP for a certain time? (I dont actually know)
[08:01] <eclypse> bina, possibly
[08:01] <eclypse> bina, I dont' think they're gonna report me tho
[08:01] <MattSta> when i type apt-get --build source wine into the terminal it goes fine for a minute then an error comes up
[08:02] <Kaja> Nanaki_yamabushi, i think Gaim handles them all.
[08:02] <eclypse> bina, if they do, I'll tell them that my system was hacked :D
[08:02] <eclypse> bina, and controlled
[08:02] <eclypse> lol
[08:02] <bina> eclypse: hopefully they wont.
[08:02] <jasonm> wastrel, i would prefer to install them through synaptic.
[08:02] <bina> eclypse: lol :)
[08:02] <eclypse> bina, well I didn't do any damage
[08:02] <andii> Jowi, i have mounted a sata 250 gig disk, and with mkdir "$(df -h | egrep '/$' | awk '{print "["$3 " used,",$4 " left] "}')" it makes a folder from the os disk
[08:02] <eclypse> bina, I was ABOUT to
[08:02] <wastrel> jasonm:  have you enabled universe and multiverse in synaptic?  maybe the package you want is in there
[08:02] <eclypse> bina then they told me my ISP so I was like fuyck
[08:02] <eclypse> bina, because my firewall was off lol
[08:03] <Nanaki_yamabushi> kaja: problem is I want my contact list from ICQ2000b and not my server list from ICQ.
[08:03] <andii> Jowi, doesnt make a folder with size on sata 250 disk
[08:03] <bina> eclypse: :)
[08:03] <Nanaki_yamabushi> hmm what is a good windows emu for linux to play old and newer windows games?
[08:03] <eclypse> ima try disconnecting again, brb
[08:03] <Nanaki_yamabushi> where you do not have to pay for the emu
[08:04] <Ng> Nanaki_yamabushi: no such thing exists. some games may work in wine, but that's about it
[08:04] <bina> Nanaki_yamabushi: I think wine is supposed to be fairly good with games?
[08:04] <Jowi> andii: what do you mean by your last statement. what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:04] <jasonm> wastrel, i know the packages i want are universe... how do i enable these?
[08:04] <Ng> Nanaki_yamabushi: and the only pay-for option is cedega. things like vmware/qemu are no good for games generally
[08:04] <bina> Nanaki_yamabushi: sorry didnt mean to put the ? on the end :)
[08:04] <billybennett> Hey, if I want to install this software is it asking me to put those links into my sources?  http://smb4k.berlios.de/
[08:05] <andii> Jowi, i have 3 sata disk and mounted them, and now i want to create a folder in each mount that show how mutch is used and free
[08:05] <Nanaki_yamabushi> bina: is okay. Well I need to check both then, Well dosbox I trust for the dos games hehe, I hope it runs smoother then on the windows.
[08:05] <MattSta> please can somebody help with WINE
[08:05] <wastrel> jasonm:  in synaptic  Settings > Repositories
[08:05] <spikeb> yes billybennett
[08:05] <Ng> andii: df -h  will show you how much is free on each disk
[08:05] <billybennett> spikeb, it says Kubuntu.  Can I use it even if I'm running Ubuntu
[08:05] <spikeb> billybennett: yeah
[08:05] <lampshade> MattSta: if it is easy I can help, running utorrent with wine right now
[08:06] <billybennett> thanks spikeb
[08:06] <andii> ng, i know, and now i want a folder in each sata disk that shows how mutch space there is left and used
[08:06] <spikeb> billybennett: kubuntu and ubuntu share repositories, so it will just install any dependencies you're missing
[08:06] <Jowi> andii: so you want a folder to be named "3GB" or whatever value it takes from df -h?
[08:06] <gnomefreak> billybennett: i wouldnt do that
[08:06] <Arc> can anyone help me get this USB modem working under dapper?  i know it's supported by linux 2.6.15
[08:06] <Spec> !seen consty
[08:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about seen consty
[08:06] <haitike> someone know how to use a "kss" screensaver in ubuntu?
[08:06] <billybennett> gnomefreak, why not?
[08:06] <MattSta> well there just seems to be an error when typing 'apt-get --build source wine'
[08:06] <gnomefreak> its unsafe
[08:06] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:06] <Nanaki_yamabushi> I also want to install kubuntu later on. Can you later on just switch the desktops once booted?
[08:06] <Ng> andii: that's a pretty strange request - you'd need to write a script to manage creating/removing the folders and then run that regularly from cron, but you can't have a folder that is constantly showing you that data
[08:06] <spikeb> yean Nanaki_yamabushi
[08:07] <billybennett> well how do I install this SMB4K program?  The one in the repositories is outdated and I've found that everytime I ask for help they make me get the newest version
[08:07] <MattSta> lampshade: so do u know what to do
[08:07] <rixxon> i have an ntfs partition /dev/sda1, how to mount it in ubuntu?
[08:07] <SurfnKid> hi
[08:07] <lampshade> MattSta: you are building wine?  Any particular reason why?  (Just thought I would ask--some people don't even know about packages. If you have a real reason for building it from source, you are probably more advanced at it than me.  )  I just did apt-get install wine after adding the wine repo to my sources.list
[08:07] <spikeb> billybennett: add those two lines from teh downloads page to your sources.list, then run apt-get update and apt-get install smb4k
[08:07] <rixxon> !mount
[08:07] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[08:07] <Nanaki_yamabushi> is it possible to move files from windows PC to a linux PC over lan?
[08:07] <SurfnKid> does anyone konw the pap2 linksys ports uesd for UDP
[08:08] <rixxon> !ntfs
[08:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:08] <SurfnKid> i know this is off topic question
[08:08] <billybennett> spikeb,  okay but why does gnomefreak think thats unsafe?
[08:08] <Jowi> andii: your script works fine for me. are you sure you have write permissions to the disks?
[08:08] <Spec> Nanaki_yamabushi: samba
[08:08] <andii> i have mounted a sata 250 gig disk, with this command it takes the first disk and writes size, but i need it to show the size of the sata disk that it is in
[08:08] <brummelsgroup> Nanaki, you can move files over lan
[08:08] <spikeb> billybennett: it's a third party repository, that's why
[08:08] <spikeb> billybennett: it could be unsafe, no guarantees, etc
[08:08] <Nanaki_yamabushi> good. once I need to do that. I will have to ask how hehe.
[08:08] <MattSta> lampshade: well, im just following the site instructions on how to install it.
[08:08] <andii> Jowi, it doesnt show the size on my mounted disk that the file is in
[08:08] <andii> s/file/script
[08:08] <billybennett> spikeb, can I get the program and then take it out of my sources.list
[08:08] <jasonjdp> anybody know why ubuntu likes to boot up and ignore my edits in my xorg.conf?  i added 1600x1200 modes for all screen depths and it still likes to boot up at 1024x768 with 1600x1200 not being an option, unless i ctrl-alt-bcksp, then it reads the file fine
[08:09] <jasonm> wastrel, i'll see if this works, thanks.
[08:09] <spikeb> billybennett: yeah
[08:09] <MattSta> i'm not sure of any other way to do it
[08:09] <andii> Jowi, in my /data/250disk-1 it creates a folder with namne: [443M used, 2.3G left] 
[08:09] <lampshade> MattSta: yeah, forget that, unless you have a reason for building it from source I would strongly suggest just adding deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main to your sources.list and then just apt-get update and then apt-get install wine
[08:09] <andii> name*
[08:10] <Jowi> andii: exactly. it take the first occurance of "/" it finds. normally that is the root disk
[08:10] <JPT> What's the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:10] <MattSta> lampshade: im not even sure how to do that
[08:10] <Snow_Shelter> does anyone know how I can completely and permanently wipe a hard drive using the Ubuntu Live CD?
[08:11] <BCK14> Snow_Shelter: use a duster or cloth to wipe your drive not a cd :P
[08:11] <lampshade> MattSta: that's cool, first do you know how to open up a terminal?
[08:11] <Jowi> andii: a better way would be to specify the disk based on mount point maybe (/media/satadiskone)
[08:11] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, burn it
[08:11] <MattSta> ya
[08:11] <Snow_Shelter> no
[08:11] <Jowi> andii: or "/dev/devicename"
[08:11] <wastrel> Snow_Shelter:  google knows.
[08:11] <Snow_Shelter> I need to use the drive afterwards
[08:11] <imbusy> Has anyone had any problems when installing ubuntu and the whole process stops at 70%
[08:12] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, then you can't never be 100% sure :)
[08:12] <MattSta> lampshade: thats easy
[08:12] <imbusy> Anyone encountered such strange behaviour?
[08:12] <Snow_Shelter> I just need to pattern over the disk.
[08:12] <andii> Jowi, tried with mkdir "$(df -h /dev/sde | egrep blabla, and got a error: mkdir: cannot create directory `': No such file or directory
[08:12] <lampshade> MattSta: kk, just run the comman d sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list       The basic text editor will open to your sources file
[08:12] <wastrel> oh
[08:12] <wastrel> that's diffn't
[08:12] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, doing some times dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/your_hd may do it
[08:12] <jeldert> just reported my first bug :)
[08:12] <RadiantFire> good for you jeldert :-)
[08:12] <Snow_Shelter> blakkino: will that pattern over the drive several times?
[08:12] <dothebart> hy. i'm maintaining some debian packages and have some portability questions about the build. is this the right place to ask?
[08:12] <r3nd3r0> hey guys i installed ubuntu on my machine but i dont know how to connect to the internet
[08:12] <Archville> Error with Wine: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": /usr/bin/../lib/libXext.so.6: undefined symbol: XESedFreeFont  Any clue ? It occurs on wine anything.exe and winecfg
[08:12] <r3nd3r0> i have a dsl connection
[08:13] <r3nd3r0> i tried pppoeconfig
[08:13] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, one time.. u can run it several times
[08:13] <BazziR> dothebart: #ubuntu-motu
[08:13] <r3nd3r0> but what dialer do i use ?
[08:13] <dothebart> tnx.
[08:13] <_absolution_> hi all
[08:13] <andii> Jowi, got better with mkdir "$(df -h /dev/sde | awk '{print "["$3 " used,",$4 " left] "}')"
[08:13] <Jowi> andii: replace egrep '/$' with egrep '/dev/sde'
[08:13] <lampshade> MattSta: then just add deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main to the bottom on a blank line and save and close the file.  then on the command line run the command sudo apt-get update   then    sudo apt-get install wine   that should be all you need.  That's all I did, and I run both picassa and utorrent under wine.
[08:13] <blakkino> while [ 1 ] ; do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/your_hd; done <- infinite times :)
[08:13] <r3nd3r0> how do u connect on ubuntu usng dsl
[08:13] <_absolution_> i'm having a problem with "fluxbox".....can anyone help me
[08:13] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: shouldn't it work automatically, kinda?
[08:13] <Snow_Shelter> blakkino: there isn't like a program included with the Live CD that will do that a more efficent way?
[08:13] <andii> Jowi, isnt it possible to use $path or something?
[08:14] <r3nd3r0> rixth, well it didnt
[08:14] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: dsl, or adsl? :p
[08:14] <EnsignRedshirt> Why doesn't this find all files that begin with T: ls | grep "^T"  ??
[08:14] <r3nd3r0> adsl
[08:14] <_absolution_> I start fluxbox....and everything goes black....anyone know what the problem is?....
[08:14] <BazziR> Snow_Shelter: that is as efficient as possible :)
[08:14] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, don't know
[08:14] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: adsl providers mostly send out all the info your machine/router needs to know...
[08:14] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: dhcp client enabled?
[08:14] <lightstep> is us.archive.ubuntu.com a good package mirror? i try to upgrade my system, but it never finds new packages
[08:15] <Jowi> andii: you can specify it however you want. i have no energy to do research about it atm though :)
[08:15] <Snow_Shelter> BazziR: ok, thanks
[08:15] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, that is efficent but there may be some patterns that do the job better than random
[08:15] <lightstep> (i can install new ones just fine, though)
[08:15] <r3nd3r0> rixxon, my isp uses dhcp
[08:15] <_absolution_> I shouldn't say everything....the panels and the terminal goes black
[08:15] <blakkino> yet random provide decent result too :)
[08:15] <r3nd3r0> rixxon, but what settings do i make in ubuntu ?
[08:15] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: are you connecting directly with your machine or via a router of some kind?
[08:15] <Snow_Shelter> blakkino: so 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda'?
[08:15] <MattSta> lampshade: that isn't quite working
[08:15] <Jowi> andii: the point is, right now it will find the first occurrance of "/" which in most cases is the root disk.
[08:15] <r3nd3r0> rixxon, ive got an adsl modem thats it
[08:15] <vincenz> Anyone know why xorg is so slow?
[08:15] <Snow_Shelter> vincenz: using a lot of swap?
[08:16] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: well, ubuntu should have eth0 enabled, with dhcp
[08:16] <blakkino> Snow_Shelter, so? as u want
[08:16] <Snow_Shelter> blakkino: ok, thanks
[08:16] <MattSta> lampshade: it says that it is not a known source list
[08:16] <lampshade> MattSta: what went wrong?  ANy errors?  added the repo deb "http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" without quotes of course.
[08:16] <finalbeta_> I'v installed xgl/compiz, how do I change things, gconf-editor doesn't seem to use the changes I put in.
[08:16] <vincenz> Snow_Shelter: now typing even in a gnome-terminal is laggy, and creating a terminal or other window (with the blue outline that expands) is slow too
[08:16] <r3nd3r0> eth0 is enabled
[08:16] <Nanaki_yamabushi> seems many have problems for internet on ubuntu. Mine is working perfectly.
[08:16] <r3nd3r0> but how do i dial ?
[08:16] <Ng> vincenz: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[08:16] <r3nd3r0> i need to provide the user and pass
[08:16] <lampshade> MattSta: crap hold on
[08:16] <rixxon> r3nd3r0: it has been some years since i had an adsl connection, sorry...
[08:17] <Bassetts> i hate loving linux, you mention linux in my clan and everyone comes down like a swarm and bitches about it =(
[08:17] <vincenz> Ng: ATI  x300
[08:17] <lampshade> MattSta: typed it out wrong should be "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" without quotes in the sources.list
[08:17] <Nanaki_yamabushi> YEAH second life for linux
[08:17] <Ng> vincenz: have you installed the ati drivers? (I'm not sure if they support the x300 as I don't use them)
[08:17] <RadiantFire> Bassetts: ??
[08:17] <Ng> !ati > vincenz
[08:17] <Jowi> andii: you would be better off to split the job up. create a bash script, put "$(df -h | egrep '/dev/whatever' to a variable, then awk it, cd to $variable and mkdir there.
[08:18] <andii> Jowi, i dont know $variable, im just a beginner scripter
[08:18] <Bassetts> RadiantFire: i was on my clans irc channel and i mentioned linux, they all started to bitch about how nothing runs in it all all that cr*p
[08:18] <ddrj> hey GUYS, i really really messed up my ubuntu installation to where it says that there is now 0 active partitions (full thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201860 but no one's replied) can any of you help please???
[08:18] <vincenz> Ng: I have fglrx with the extra custom libGL.so.1.2 from the forums to overcome problems when doing 3d (read openoffice)
[08:18] <PJFC> Hi, I just installed a new nvidia based video card (previous was a integrated chip) and now x-server won't start.  Can anyone help a newbie?
[08:18] <Jowi> andii: there is a great channel called #bash that I found pretty useful :)
[08:18] <Ng> vincenz: you should probably check it's using direct rendering, but beyond that I'm not really sure what else you can do
[08:18] <RadiantFire> thats ads :-(
[08:18] <Bassetts> People reeealy need to get the stupid old consceptions about linux out of their heads, and stop moaning about something they havent even used
[08:19] <vincenz> Ng: how do I check that?
[08:19] <JPT> is there some program I can use to get songs and stuff onto my iPod?
[08:19] <Jowi> andii: there are also some great bash tutorials available
[08:19] <trappist> JPT: amaroK!
[08:19] <lampshade> MattSta: how is it going?  Get it working?
[08:19] <maxkelley> PJFC: ok, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[08:19] <MattSta> lampshade: itsdoing something
[08:19] <maxkelley> er, no, wait.
[08:19] <Ng> vincenz: I think "glxinfo | grep -i direct" will tell you, but there may also be an fglrx specific way of doing it
[08:19] <rixxon> JPT: i've seen something, "gpod" or whatever it was
[08:19] <andii> Jowi, :)
[08:19] <rixxon> !ipod
[08:19] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:20] <ddrj> can anyone help please? after doing a NETINSTALL of ubuntu, i get 0 active partitions!
[08:20] <maxkelley> PJFC: yeah, do that.
[08:20] <vincenz> Ng: nope
[08:20] <Jowi> andii: I started here myself http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[08:20] <andii> goodie :D
[08:20] <MattSta> lampshade: it is talking about some broken packages
[08:21] <jwickar1> I haven't followed the latest developments with NTFS support, is it still pretty dangerous to read/write files to an NTFS partition or no?
[08:21] <Hoxzer_> how ...
[08:21] <Hoxzer_> WHY
[08:21] <Jowi> andii: the variable is very simple to use. in the bash file you just create a line that say MYVARIABLE=$(command i want to run). then use the variable like this "echo $MYVARIABLE".
[08:21] <vincenz> Ng: how do I turn on direct rendering
[08:22] <lampshade> MattSta: I'm guessing something just got entered incorrectly into your sources list.  Could you send me your sources.list somehow?  Via msg or a pastebin or whatever.  I'm pretty sure that's all the problem is
[08:22] <afflux> und wech... schnen abend noch :)
[08:22] <Ng> vincenz: I'm not sure really, you'd be better off finding an ATi user. there may be some others here if you ask again :)
[08:22] <MattSta> what is pastebin
[08:22] <Hoxzer_> how do I make gparted to regonize my HDD ...
[08:22] <Hoxzer_> I dotn really understand 5.1 install worked fine
[08:22] <vincenz> Ng: alright, tryng something from a forum
[08:22] <vincenz> brb
[08:22] <Hoxzer_> but now 6.06 doesn't read my HDD well
[08:23] <Hoxzer_> and I cannot just reinstall it to EXT3 partition
[08:23] <Hoxzer_> ...just great *puts up his tumb*
[08:24] <ddrj> hey Hoxzer_, I used ext3 as well, but did a netinstall but now my pc's messed up and shows up as 0 active partitions
[08:24] <r3nd3r0> doesnt ubuntu come with rp-pppoe ??
[08:24] <BrianG> is anything about my soundcard settings saved in my home directory?
[08:25] <Hoxzer_> ddrj: BUT I just wanna format Ext3 ... partition not whole HDD...
[08:25] <ddrj> yeah i know what you mean, i'm still trying to get a reply to this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201860 that might have something to do with yours
[08:25] <BrianG> can anyone tell me why ALSA isn't working for my Santa Cruz? I've unmuted eveything, cranked everything, yadda yadda.. nothing written is helping at all.
[08:26] <Jowi> r3nd3r0: don't think so. but pppoeconf should get the job done.
[08:26] <r3nd3r0> i tried that
[08:26] <r3nd3r0> didnt work
[08:26] <Hoxzer_> Error: Unable to open /dev/hdc - unrecognised disk label.
[08:26] <Hoxzer_> ...
[08:26] <Hoxzer_> great
[08:26] <r3nd3r0> my isp requires a user and pass
[08:26] <r3nd3r0> while dialing
[08:26] <r3nd3r0> i entered it into pppoeconf
[08:26] <lampshade> MattSta: yeah paste your sources.list to pastebin and I'll have a quick look
[08:27] <r3nd3r0> but wen i start it it says ppoe.o  module loaded
[08:27] <r3nd3r0> but i cant surf
[08:27] <Jowi> !pppoe
[08:27] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[08:27] <r3nd3r0> or ping
[08:27] <Jowi> check that link r3nd3r0
[08:27] <r3nd3r0> yeah im looking there
[08:27] <r3nd3r0> but is that a binary ?
[08:27] <_absolution_> do I need any additional programs to run fluxbox on ubuntu?
[08:27] <r3nd3r0> that i can download
[08:27] <Nanaki_yamabushi> how long does the database rebuilding takes after installing the desktop?
[08:27] <lampshade> MattSta: or paste it in #flood
[08:27] <soundray> Hoxzer_: your disk has been partitioned following a scheme other than the old DOS one. You may have to load a module to support your disk label/partition table.
[08:28] <MattSta> lampshade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16277
[08:28] <Nanaki_yamabushi> nevermind just finished
[08:28] <katakombi> please, is there any berlios related channel?
[08:28] <voraistos> hey guys, do you know how i can get an accelerated desktop , (vista ish effects and stuff?)
[08:28] <soundray> Hoxzer_: there is also a possibility that your partition table has been corrupted. You may be able to recover it with gpart (note not gparted)
[08:29] <soundray> !info gpart
[08:29] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[08:29] <Jowi> r3nd3r0: no idea. pppoeconf always worked for me (has set up that way for 3 people). do you get an ip address at all?
[08:29] <lampshade> MattSta: weird, You are running dapper drake, right?  did you post the sources.list?  All I got is the error messages
[08:29] <r3nd3r0> Jowi, yup ive tried all those things in the wiki
[08:29] <r3nd3r0> Jowi, no i dont think i get an ip
[08:29] <Hoxzer_> soundray: ... it is not :D I just booted windows from it
[08:30] <vincenz> Anyone have any experience with ATI?
[08:30] <kupo> Hey channel anyone familiar with getting Hawkings wireless cards working under Ubuntu ? ( HWP54G rev T) ?
[08:30] <KenSentMe> !tell vincenz about ati
[08:30] <soundray> Hoxzer_: not a Vista beta by any chance?
[08:30] <ddrj> yeah i know what you mean, i'm still trying to get a reply to this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201860 that might have something to do with yours
[08:30] <Hoxzer_> soundray: but do u think if I compile 0.2.5 and try it could help?
[08:30] <Jowi> r3nd3r0: if you don't get an ip the authentication probably failed. I bet you've misstyped something in the setup.
[08:30] <Hoxzer_> soundray: no, tinyXP
[08:30] <KenSentMe> vincenz: check the message from ubotu
[08:31] <MattSta> lampshade: Draper lake
[08:31] <MattSta> ?
[08:31] <vincenz> KenSentMe:  I have already donethat
[08:31] <MattSta> lampshade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16278
[08:31] <KenSentMe> vincenz: do you have a problem then?
[08:31] <Hoxzer_> soundray: and also Disk-manager regonizes it ..
[08:31] <Hoxzer_> and mount does work
[08:32] <vincenz> KenSentMe: yes, it's incredibly slow, apparently directrendering is off, in addition I needed a custom libGL.so.1.2. form one of the forums cause the std one borks
[08:32] <vincenz> (openoffice won't start)
[08:32] <DB3K>  i686 GNU/Linux
[08:32] <lampshade> MattSta: I got that, but what about the sources.list?  /16278 is just  the error messages.  What about the edited sources.list?  could you copy paste that?
[08:33] <BrianG> seriously does anyoen know anything about ALSA issue in Dapper? why isn't my soundcard working properly anymore?
[08:33] <BrianG> all leads point to outdated information, things that do not work, or wiki pages that aren't written
[08:34] <MattSta> lampshade: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[08:34] <PJFC> I need help trying to reconfigure x-server.  New video card.  I tried dpkg -reconfigure xorg-xserver.  nothing happened.
[08:34] <MattSta> lampshade: thats the only thing i edited
[08:34] <jasonm> wastrel, that solved the problem! thanks a lot
[08:34] <soundray> Hoxzer_: so is it only the formatting of a new partition that doesn't work?
[08:35] <Hoxzer_> soundray: ... gparted says the WHOLE drive is empty ... and it is . not
[08:35] <Jowi> PJFC: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:35] <ddrj> hey elitists :) , i really really messed up my ubuntu installation to where it says that there is now 0 active partitions (full thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201860 but no one's replied) can any of you help please???
[08:35] <lampshade> MattSta: yeah but I'm looking for the whole file.  Your whole sources.list file, copy paste the whole thing anyway.  I think the problem might be that you don't have some other ones enabled that are needed
[08:35] <PJFC> x-server currently won't load.
[08:35] <jasonm> wastrel, when i try to install one of these packages i get the message, "Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable" how do i go around that?
[08:35] <jasonm> when i try to install one of these packages i get the message, "Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable" how do i go around that?
[08:35] <soundray> Hoxzer_: do you see your partitions with 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[08:35] <NoUse> jasonm enable multiverse
[08:36] <vincenz> ths is what I get
[08:36] <PJFC> I should not have left a space I guess.  I'll give that a try.
[08:36] <Hoxzer_> soundray: yes
[08:36] <MattSta> lampshade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16279
[08:36] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IdNM2e21.html
[08:37] <pcdog> hi
[08:37] <soundray> Hoxzer_: have you tried doing the formatting on the commandline instead of using gparted?
[08:37] <pcdog> i have a problem  - my cpu does no scaling to normal frequency
[08:37] <Hoxzer_> soundray: no, how do I do that?
[08:38] <pcdog> is always laming on 600 mhz, because scaling_max_freq ist locked on 600000 and i cant change this -
[08:38] <jeldert> how do I print the last few lines of a log file in the console?
[08:38] <jasonm> NoUse, i've enabled everything in synaptic
[08:38] <pcdog> how can i change the values in /sys?
[08:38] <lampshade> MattSta: I'm confused, you said you were on Dapper, but there are tons of entires for Breezy in the sources.list?  What's going on with that?  Did you edit it before? Also lines 36 and 37 are duplicates??
[08:38] <Leafw> gnome doesn't let me write a CD from the contextual menu of nautilus. Any clue which is the command line command to do the same? ( I keep getting: Insert a rewritable or blank disc" message, while a blank CD is already showing in the desktop
[08:38] <soundray> Hoxzer_: you need to know the devicename (e.g. /dev/hdc1). Then for a ext3 system, you run 'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdc1'
[08:38] <Nanaki_yamabushi> hmm Ionly get a small black square with with the terminal prompt and grey background, hwo do I get the normal ubuntu gnome desktop? i need help
[08:38] <vincenz> Anyone know how to fixhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/IdNM2e21.html
[08:39] <MattSta> lampshade: i might have, but im not exactly sure
[08:39] <jeldert> Leafw: eject the cd, then insert it again. Nautilus will ask what to di
[08:39] <jeldert> do
[08:39] <Hoxzer_> soundray: what does it do?
[08:39] <Leafw> jeldert : no, keeps saying the same message.
[08:39] <soundray> Hoxzer_: creates an ext3 filesystem on the first partition in /dev/hdc
[08:39] <Leafw> jeldert : so what is it, cdrecord, burncd ?
[08:39] <Leafw> it's an iso I want to burn
[08:39] <Leafw> an ubuntu iso ... *kof* *kof*
[08:40] <jwickard> I need to unmount /home, but it says it's busy, I tried using the -f option, but no luck.  What's the best way to safely unmount home
[08:40] <lampshade> MattSta: first, are you sure you are using dapper drake and not breezy badger?  A lot of the entires(most) are for breezy??  (dapper is the newest stable version breezy is the older one)
[08:40] <Hoxzer_> soundray: Strange .... but u see my HDD contains ext3 already
[08:40] <jasonm> NoUse, any other idea's these are just the multimedia plugins
[08:40] <Hoxzer_> soundray: I have old ubuntu in it
[08:40] <MattSta> lampshade: odds are i am using breezy badger
[08:40] <soundray> Hoxzer_: and you are trying to install Dapper from the desktop CD?
[08:41] <Hoxzer_> 6.06 yes I'm trying to install it
[08:41] <Hoxzer_> I dont remembert codenames :D
[08:41] <jeldert> Leafw: it can be done with cdrecord, don't know how...
[08:41] <Leafw> so no iso burning for ubuntu, hum
[08:41] <NoUse> jasonm yeah, liblame0 is in multiverse
[08:41] <Nanaki_yamabushi> how do I get the full gnome desktop for dapper. I am drawing a blank
[08:41] <Leafw> jeldert : I know how to use cdrecord
[08:41] <Leafw> jeldert : thanks for the command name
[08:41] <NoUse> jasonm have you run apt-get update?
[08:41] <jasonm> nope
[08:42] <jeldert> how do I print the last few lines of a log file in the console?
[08:42] <ardchoille> jwickard: are logged into that box right now?
[08:42] <Timor^> how do i add hz=1000 (adjusting the tic rate) in my kernel ?
[08:42] <NoUse> jasonm  you need to run that after making changes to sources.list
[08:42] <j0nas`> arg, having a lot of trouble with dapper install
[08:42] <Hoxzer_> ....
[08:42] <Hoxzer_> WHY
[08:42] <jasonm> NoUse, so everytime i install i package i have to run apt-get update?
[08:42] <j0nas`> all i get is a blank screen when i boot up the livecd
[08:42] <MattSta> lampshade: so should i not use breezy badger
[08:43] <j0nas`> i saw something about its cause possibly being ati hardware
[08:43] <enyc> j0nas`: erm....
[08:43] <jasonm> NoUse, how do i do this
[08:43] <Hoxzer_> ,,, why?
[08:43] <jwickard> ardchoille: yes
[08:43] <enyc> j0nas`: try using the alternate install CD
[08:43] <soundray> Hoxzer_: don't despair, and keep using my nickname ;)
[08:43] <lampshade> MattSta: haha, that makes a big diff, earlier you just mentioned you had dapper.  I made some changes and reposted them to the site.  I would save that and then run the command     "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install wine" both without quotes of course.  Let's see if that works.  You want to use whichever you have.  I think based on this file, unless you did major changes before, you actually had breezy not dapper
[08:43] <j0nas`> enyc: is there a way to install over the network?
[08:43] <enyc> j0nas`: of sorts...
[08:44] <enyc> j0nas`: try using the alternate install CD
[08:44] <ardchoille> jwickard: Do you realise what's gonna happen to /home/$USER if you are llowed to umount /home?
[08:44] <NoUse> jasonm , if you want to get changes, you need to run apt-get update, that updates the local database of available packages, apt-get upgrade committs any upgrades that are available
[08:44] <j0nas`> i cant burn cds
[08:44] <soundray> Hoxzer_: the simplest thing may be to download and try the Alternative Install CD.
[08:44] <j0nas`> at the moment
[08:44] <enyc> j0nas`: try using the alternate install CD (which you can get over the network)
[08:44] <j0nas`> i need to do it over the network if its possible
[08:44] <enyc> j0nas`: how annoying
[08:44] <enyc> j0nas`: erm not user
[08:44] <enyc> j0nas`: erm not sure
[08:44] <Timor^> i need to adjust the timer frequency without the graphical interface .. please help
[08:44] <Hoxzer_> soundray: and .....? it would not install 6.06 to my COmp so whats the deal?
[08:44] <enyc> j0nas`: order cds with shipit too ;-)
[08:44] <j0nas`> already done...
[08:44] <jwickard> ardchoille: I won't have any files / settings
[08:44] <soundray> Hoxzer_: why would it not?
[08:45] <j0nas`> desktop cds only though
[08:45] <Nanaki_yamabushi> WHAAA I can't get my desktop to run
[08:45] <j0nas`> i assumed they'd work on all platforms
[08:45] <MattSta> i got the same message
[08:45] <jasonm> NoUse, so this is done in the terminal right, not in synaptic
[08:45] <j0nas`> guess not?
[08:45] <ardchoille> jwickard: that is why the sys won't allow you to umount /home
[08:45] <enyc> j0nas`: erm.. hrrm not always
[08:45] <MattSta> lampshade: no change
[08:45] <j0nas`> wtf is ati's problem anyway... their shit doesnt work with anything
[08:45] <NoUse> jasonm well apt-get update is the same as the reload button in synaptic
[08:45] <soundray> j0nas`: language
[08:45] <j0nas`> right. sorry...
[08:45] <Nanaki_yamabushi> anyone to help me to get the ubuntu desktop fully? please query me
[08:45] <elsebasbe> im sorry if this is a stupid question, but im new to ubuntu (and linux). im now trying to install ubuntu, but when im running the cd and choosing "start or install ubuntu" i just get up (after some loading with bars and stuff) a text prompt. someone told me i should get to the desktop right away and install from there?
[08:46] <metaj> is there some one that can help me configuring aMSN to work with the webcam
[08:46] <metaj> it says it is behind a firewall
[08:46] <jwickard> I'm trying to unmount home in order to setup an encrypted home partition a la: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3
[08:46] <pcdog> metaj, i cant, sorry
[08:46] <Leafw> jeldert : I think the problem is that the ubuntu powerpc iso is 701.1 Mb and gnome keeps thinking that it doesn't fit in the disk
[08:46] <Timor^> i need to adjust the timer frequency without the graphical interface .. please help
[08:46] <pcdog> but i already seeking someone who helps me with my cpu problem
[08:47] <jasonm> NoUse, oh ok. then what is the equivelent button for apt-get upgrade?
[08:47] <NoUse> jasonm mark all upgrades and then apply
[08:47] <elsebasbe> am i nbot supposed to come to a desktop when im running the ubuntu cd?
[08:47] <lampshade> MattSta: ugh, saved the new changed sources list and such?  Are you getting the packages from the internet or are you trying to get them from the cd?  I would suggest commenting out the first line about the cd too if you aren't using it.  Then sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get install wine  and see if something happens.  :-/  Otherwise, I think I'm about out of help as I'm not super duper experienced with it.  Might want to ask 
[08:47] <vincenz> Anyone know how to get direct rendering to work with ATI?
[08:48] <NoUse> vincenz have you following the wiki page?
[08:48] <ctothej> ubuntu wont autorecognize my external usb hard drives, how can i mount them?
[08:48] <vincenz> NoUse: yes
[08:49] <jwickard> ardchoille: there's no way to force it?
[08:49] <vincenz> NoUse: and even installed the custom libGL.so.1.2. as mentioned in the forums
[08:49] <NoUse> ctothej when you plug it in, run 'dmesg' and see what it outputs
[08:49] <vincenz> NoUse: or I get all the failures that are a known bug
[08:49] <n30n> what program do i use to brun iso's
[08:49] <n30n> !iso
[08:49] <finalbeta_> How do I change compiz settings after an install on ubuntu, the normal tools seem to have no effect, (gset-compiz,gconf-editor)
[08:49] <NoUse> vincenz check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[08:49] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:49] <NoUse> n30n in ubuntu?
[08:49] <MattSta> lampshade: sorry i forgot to save
[08:49] <n30n> NoUse: YE
[08:49] <lampshade> haha lol
[08:49] <lampshade> that happens
[08:49] <NoUse> n30n right click on teh iso, clck write to disc
[08:50] <ctothej> NoUse: how do i narrow down the output?
[08:50] <Hoxzer_> ,,,'
[08:50] <jasonm> NoUse, i understand that. but it wont let me mark that package
[08:50] <ardchoille> jwickard: I seriously don't think you can do that
[08:50] <Hoxzer_> :D seeems like ...
[08:50] <vincenz> NoUse: funky, it asays "(II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled
[08:50] <n30n> NoUse: there is no option for that
[08:50] <vincenz> NoUse: yet glxinfo says no
[08:50] <Hoxzer_> ubuntu 6.06 install sucks
[08:50] <NoUse> jasonm pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <jasonm> wastrel, "Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable" how do i go around that?
[08:50] <NoUse> n30n you using gnome or kde?
[08:50] <n30n> NoUse: X
[08:50] <Hoxzer_> like 5.1 works fine but they seem to have add so terrible old gparted to the 6.06 so I dont even know what to do :D
[08:51] <n30n> NoUse: i could load up gnome
[08:51] <NoUse> n30n X is an API, what desktop are you using?
[08:51] <Leafw> !cdrecord
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdrecord
[08:51] <jasonm> NoUse, can i PM you
[08:51] <n30n> NoUse: xubuntu
[08:51] <Leafw> !burn iso
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about burn iso
[08:51] <jasonm> NoUse, im not sure what you ment in that last message
[08:51] <NoUse> jasonm pastebin your sources.list file first
[08:51] <n30n> NoUse: i didn't mean xserver
[08:51] <NoUse> !tell jasonm about pastebin
[08:51] <Peregrine_Sky> Hoxzer_, mepis installs well though
[08:52] <n30n> jasonm: it's just !iso, i looked at it already
[08:52] <ardchoille> jwickard: I just got some help from a Linux guru and he says it's impossible to umount /home when any user is logged in.
[08:52] <Hoxzer_> Peregrine_Sky: mepis?
[08:52] <NoUse> n30n oh, ok, one sec
[08:52] <NoUse> vincenz look for lines starting wiht EE, thats an error message
[08:52] <Peregrine_Sky> Hoxzer_, a distro based one ubuntu, with a dead easy install
[08:52] <grodius> can anyone help me with installing the beta3 version of GAIM? IM on wiki, but I still can't get it working
[08:52] <vincenz> ERROR: DDX driver fingerprint mismatch: got 0xC20D27F9, but expected 0x32C4A39B
[08:52] <vincenz> libGL error: InitDriver failed
[08:53] <billybennett> Does anyone know how I could run a command on startup? (example: my samba command)
[08:53] <Warbo> vincenz: Sounds like a graphics driver problem (the libGL bit)
[08:53] <NoUse> vincenz thats probably your problem, probably has to do with that libGL file you downloaded but I don't know how to fix it
[08:53] <jasonm> n30n, so....? what do i do
[08:53] <vincenz> NoUse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nS1S9B99.html
[08:53] <PJFC> I am showing my ineptness.  I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver and I get a message that says x-server is not loaded.  I just installed a new video
[08:53] <PJFC> card and only get text-mode
[08:53] <Warbo> billybennett: Add a script to /etc/init.d/ then use update-rc.d
[08:54] <vincenz> NoUse, Warbo: With the original libGL driver from ubuntu I get a BUNCH of errors
[08:54] <jasonm> NoUse, where do i find that file
[08:54] <billybennett> Warbo, what kinda script?
[08:54] <NoUse> jasonm /etc/apt/
[08:54] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IdNM2e21.html
[08:54] <Warbo> billybennett: Any script. Probably a BASH one though
[08:54] <Hoxzer_> this is HELL
[08:54] <Warbo> billybennett: Write a script which does what you want then put it in there
[08:54] <MattSta> lampshade: now it says 404 not found
[08:54] <Peregrine_Sky> Hoxzer_, ?
[08:55] <billybennett> Warbo, okay I'll learn how to make a bash script, but what do you mean update-tc.d ?
[08:55] <PJFC> how do I get x-server to work again?
[08:55] <Warbo> billybennett: Do you want it to do something graphical? (like open a window?)
[08:55] <Hoxzer_> Peregrine_Sky: WELL I have to install like ... 100 packages to get gparted 0.2.5 to COMPILE
[08:55] <Hoxzer_> andd hell no..
[08:55] <billybennett> nope its just a command to mount my samba share since I'm using a laptop and I frequently disconnect and move it
[08:55] <Hoxzer_> hell
[08:56] <billybennett> Warbo, ^^^
[08:56] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ why do you need to compile gparted?
[08:56] <killaz> can anyone help me connecting to my bluetooth dongle?
[08:56] <killaz> I have read the wiki page but I have trouble...
[08:56] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: Because ubuntu has version 0.1 which doesn't regonize my disk althought disk-manager does which sucks .. SO MUCH
[08:57] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ just get the gparted livecd,
[08:57] <Warbo> billybennett: "sudo update-rc.d start sambathingy 1 2 ." (or something like that, read the manual) will start the "sambathingy" script in runlevels 1 and 2 (recovery and regular)
[08:57] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: ? why what would it HELP?
[08:57] <NoUse> 30MB, done deal http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:57] <killaz> hcitool dev gives me a list of my bluetooth device..
[08:57] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: :D I cannot install it to disk if I can't get ubuntu install to regonize my disk
[08:57] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ if you need gparted 2.5, that has it
[08:57] <PJFC> Installed new video card, x-server won't start. Who can help?
[08:57] <MattSta> lampshade: what now
[08:57] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: Yeah, but I need it when I install Ubuntu 6.06 ...
[08:57] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: it already has linux partition in it
[08:58] <killaz> but sudo hidd --connect aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff gives me "Can't get device information: No route to host"
[08:58] <Warbo> billybennett: By the way, a bash script starts with "#!/bin/bash" then on the next line just put what you would normally put in a terminal to run your commands
[08:58] <Chri[s] > If it gives me the following error when i try to open synaptic, what can i do to fix it ? Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic
[08:58] <Chri[s] > Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[08:58] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ ah, I thought just gparted wasn't working, the enitre OS doesn't see your disk?
[08:58] <billybennett> got it thanks Warbo I'll have to do some reading :P
[08:58] <Hoxzer_> configure: error: *** uuid library (libuuid) not found <- and it is named by libuuid1 ... forever FOReVER this feels like I have been cursed
[08:59] !alindeman:*! Hi all!  As you may know, the World Cup is going on this month.  If you're interested in discussion and/or tracking the matches (Japan-Brazil and Croatia-Australia starting now!), feel free to stop by ##world-cup-2006.  As always, please only join if you are interested to keep the noise-level down!  Thanks!
[08:59] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: well ... OS DOES but 6.06 install uses Gparted ...
[08:59] <Warbo> billybennett: Just remember to give your script execute permission (I fell for that one :))
[08:59] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ you don't have to use gparted in the install
[08:59] <Hoxzer_> :O
[08:59] <MattSta> lampshade: where will it install to once it is installed
[08:59] <killaz> noone?
[08:59] <jasonm> NoUse, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16281 source.list
[08:59] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ or just get the alternate cd
[08:59] <lampshade> MattSta: ugh, we must be missing something.  Post your sources.list again now that it has been changed and such.  Let's see if there is anything else missing.  If that fails, I think I'm out of my league and will have to hand you over to someone else in the channel :-/
[08:59] <raito> What is the main differences between ubuntu and debian, I dunno which distro to choose
[09:00] <lampshade> MattSta: it will install and then you can just run the command which wine and it should tell you.  I don't think it has installed yet.
[09:00] <NoUse> jasonm you haven't enabled multiverse, just copy the sources.list ubotu is about to send you
[09:00] <NoUse> !tell jasonm about repos
[09:00] <Hoxzer_> NoUse: .... alternate? EH :E
[09:00] <lampshade> unless you've seen something that indicates it has
[09:00] <Lynoure> raito: Debian pretty much aims to cover all free software, ubuntu mostly goes for the best of the breed.
[09:00] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ its the text based install
[09:00] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ might work better
[09:01] <Warbo> raito: Debian is more of a general distro that you can build yourself out of whatever packages, whilst Ubuntu gives you a great desktop setup to begin with (which you can still change)
[09:01] <raito> Lynoure, what do you think ubuntu has, that debian doesn't have?
[09:01] <MattSta> lampshade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16282
[09:01] <Hoxzer_> NOUse: can't I boot txt-based install from normal disk?
[09:01] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ no
[09:01] <PJFC> any help for me with x-server?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> raito: a new release every 6 months ;)
[09:01] <Hoxzer_> NoUse:  ......... what happend 5.1 WAS much easier to install
[09:01] <paladin_> hi
[09:01] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: :)
[09:01] <paladin_> how can I boot ubuntu live with a custom x11 screen resolution?
[09:02] <Lynoure> raito: More funding? =) And more eye for the linux newbies and average desktop users. Debian is from geeks to geeks, pretty much
[09:02] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ I had no problems wiht dapper
[09:02] <killme> hey guys, is there a way to edit my windows boot.ini through ubuntu's live cd, because when i try it says that i don't have permission to edit it
[09:02] <paladin_> 1024x768 on widescreen sucks ;)
[09:02] <NoUse> Hoxzer_ the alternate CDis the same installer as 5.10, get that
[09:02] <PJFC> Installed new video card, x-server won't start. Who can help?
[09:02] <NoUse> killme no, you can't write to ntfs
[09:02] <raito> So If I only used Linux for a week would I be completely lost with debian?
[09:02] <paladin_> you can write to ntfs
[09:02] <Warbo> killme: If it on an NTFS partition then it would be difficult (maybe impossible from live)
[09:03] <paladin_> but it is not recommended ;)
[09:03] <killme> oh no :(
[09:03] <PJFC> Installed new video card, x-server won't start. Who can help?
[09:03] <lampshade> MattSta: there is a typo
[09:03] <gnomefreak> raito: are you completely lost in ubuntu?
[09:03] <billybennett> Warbo, I've put my script in /etc/init.d/ and chmod it 777 what do I need to do about the runlevel or whatever?
[09:03] <raito> no
[09:03] <gnomefreak> raito: than no
[09:03] <lampshade> MattSta: on line 37 the n got cut off of main
[09:03] <raito> I'm thinking of switching, because it has so much more packages >_>
[09:03] <lampshade> that's why it isn't finding it and saying error 404
[09:03] <MattSta> would that make a difference?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> raito: the commands are the same the desktops are about the same
[09:03] <chopchop_> paladin_: how can you write to ntfs with live cd?
[09:03] <killme> well, here's the problem guys, i did a netinstall of Ubuntu and now it shows that i have "0 active partitions"
[09:03] <killme> what do i do?
[09:03] <Warbo> billybennett: There is a certain syntax for update-rc.d so I will have a look
[09:03] <gnomefreak> chopchop_: you cant
[09:03] <pianoboy3333> Is there a guide for compiling the 2.6.17 kernel?
[09:03] <Lynoure> raito: Not necessarily. Depends on what you'd want to do with it. But ubuntu also has a faster release cycle. That means newer stuff in stable version --> generally a good thing
[09:04] <paladin_> chopchop_: with the live cd? I don't know
[09:04] <PJFC> any help for me with x-server?
[09:04] <paladin_> mount it with rw probably
[09:04] <NoUse> !tell pianoboy3333 about kernelcompile
[09:04] <raito> hmmm
[09:04] <MattSta> lampshade: could that change the outcome
[09:04] <NoUse> paladin_ that doens't work
[09:04] <paladin_> mount -t ntfs -o remount,rw .. or sth like that
[09:04] <ardchoille> raito: the packages in the stable version of debian are very old
[09:04] <NoUse> paladin_ there is no safe NTFS write support in the default kernel
[09:04] <Frem> What config file do I need to edit to stop modprobe from loading the madwifi kernel modules?
[09:04] <raito> my computer didn't like breezy, I wasn't able to get internet, but with dapper I was completely fine
[09:04] <paladin_> NoUse: oh, ok
[09:04] <pianoboy3333> NoUse: as it says on that page: "This page does NOT describe how to build stock kernels from kernel.org. This is how to rebuild the actual Ubuntu kernel source."
[09:04] <PJFC> Installed new video card, x-server won't start. Who can help?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> paladin_: dont advise writing to ntfs please its not safe and there isnt any 3rd party program that works for most part on ubuntu
[09:05] <gnomefreak> PJFC: what card?
[09:05] <Lynoure> raito: My mother uses debian... but I do the updating and configuration for her remotely, when she needs that
[09:05] <NoUse> pianoboy3333 look around the wiki, I think its there somehwere
[09:05] <PJFC> nvidia 6200 AGP
[09:05] <pianoboy3333> NoUse: I've looked, it's not there
[09:05] <gnomefreak> PJFC: did you install the drivers?
[09:05] <MattSta> lampshade: ok i used "sudo apt-get update
[09:05] <MattSta> " now what
[09:05] <raito> oh, and can you err cross distro package install? Like install debian packages on ubuntu and vice versa? I mean they are both .deb
[09:05] <marcin__> witam
[09:05] <Blaze^^> !apache2
[09:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2
[09:05] <gnomefreak> raito: not safe
[09:05] <Blaze^^> !apache
[09:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:05] <Lynoure> raito: If you already have ubuntu, stick wit it until you know whether you like it or not, and which things you like/don't like
[09:05] <marcin__> jest tu jakis polak???
[09:05] <gnomefreak> raito: very fast way to mess up your system
[09:05] <PJFC> gnomefreak: can't start linux only in text-mode
[09:05] <gnomefreak> !pl
[09:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:06] <raito> oh
[09:06] <NoUse> pianoboy3333 ok
[09:06] <jrib> !pl
[09:06] <gnomefreak> PJFC: dapper?
[09:06] <PJFC> gnomefreak: yes
[09:06] <MattSta> lampshade: now its working
[09:06] <gnomefreak> PJFC: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:06] <raito> but thing is Lynoure, I am getting a new computer tomorrow
[09:06] <Warbo> billybennett: "sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> <start or stop> <the order it starts in, ie. a number> <runlevel to do this in> . <start or stop> <order> <runlevel> . etc. etc." make sure it ends with a dot
[09:06] <ardchoille> raito: installing debian packages on Ubuntu will break your system. I found that out the hard way.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> PJFC: when thats done let me know
[09:07] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: well, maybe not, but universe is not very far from debian unstable, I think (unless I'm mistaken) and plenty of people use it daily
[09:07] <zetor> hi all!
[09:07] <PJFC> gnomefreak: thanks I'll try that now
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: debian binaries will screw up system
[09:07] <raito> I installed a red hat linux package on ubuntu and screwed it up even more once XD
[09:07] <Warbo> billybennett: Example: "sudo update-rc.d mysambathingy start 50 1 . start 50 2 . stop 20 6 ."
[09:07] <Blaze^^> where is the apache2 file for setting the shared directory?
[09:07] <Blaze^^> please help :)
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: debian and ubuntu use different package names/versions
[09:07] <billybennett> Warbo, whats the number your talking about... start number
[09:07] <gnomefreak> he left? hes not done with that command :(
[09:08] <marcin__> m
[09:08] <marcin__> witam
[09:08] <billybennett> Warbo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199580&highlight=samba+mount+script
[09:08] <Hoxzer_> 830 kB/s :) downloading alternate install if it doesn work I will crap YOUR pants ^^
[09:08] <marcin__> jest tu jakis polak??
[09:08] <gnomefreak> !pl
[09:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:08] <raito> so debians packages are older, but they have more of them, ubuntu has newer and faster releases
[09:08] <gnomefreak> marcin__: join #uubntu-pl
[09:08] <lampshade> MattSta: awesome, so did you sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wine  ?  Did it work out??
[09:08] <marcin__> thx
[09:08] <Lynoure> raito: debian stable packages as older, unstable or testing not. And unstable is often surprisingly stable
[09:08] <gnomefreak> raito: not reall so much older
[09:08] <dpt> Hello everyone
[09:08] <MattSta> yup
[09:08] <Blaze^^> where is the apache2 file for setting the shared directory?
[09:08] <Warbo> billybennett: look in the folders /etc/rcX.d (where X-0,1,2.....) and see what I mean. If you need to run the script after something else (eg. only works when networking is on) then give it a higher number than the networking has, etc.
[09:09] <dpt> anyone knows how to inrease my speed when burning cds?
[09:09] <Warbo> X=0,1,2 sorry
[09:09] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: Where/what do the universe packages come from? Are those specially made for ubuntu as well? By whom?
[09:09] <weedar> Is there a way to install cmake version 2.4.2 as a deb-package?
[09:09] <dpt> it's slow when compared to windows
[09:09] <gnomefreak> !apache > Blaze^^
[09:09] <raito> oh, but what desktop environments does debian come with?
[09:09] <billybennett> Warbo, wow confusing.. lemme look
[09:09] <MattSta> lampshade: it most certainly did
[09:09] <NoUse> raito gnome, kde, xfce
[09:09] <Warbo> raito: All of them
[09:09] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: yes motu makes those
[09:09] <dpt> i want to be as good and even better if possible, it's taking like 10 min to burn a 700 mb cd
[09:09] <NoUse> raito and a few more
[09:09] <elknof3> hi everybody, does someone have pcsx2 running??
[09:09] <Lynoure> raito: pretty much all
[09:09] <dpt> that's too much time for this pc
[09:09] <raito> I never heard of anything except gnome kde and xfce >_<
[09:09] <marcin__> klopot
[09:09] <Warbo> billybennett: Usually giving it a high number like 80 will mean that anything it needs has already been started
[09:10] <LjL> is it normal for vmware player to only work as root?
[09:10] <marcin__> podajcie jeszcze raz strone na polski kanal sory za klopot
[09:10] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: muto handles universe and multiverse
[09:10] <gnomefreak> marcin__: #ubuntu-pl
[09:10] <elknof3> !pcsx2
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about pcsx2
[09:10] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: Sorry, I was born acronym blind... muto?
[09:10] <lampshade> MattSta: awesome haha.  If it weren't for the errors in the sources.list it would have been like a 30 second job haha
[09:10] <billybennett> Warbo, yeah I dont care when it does it just as long as it does it :P
[09:10] <fishhead> i have a quick question, how can I make it so my windows partition is mounted automatically when I boot in ubuntu, instead of having to do it manually?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> motu = master of the universe
[09:10] <gnomefreak> s
[09:10] <lampshade> MattSta: anyway, see ya around
[09:10] <Warbo> raito: E16, (E17 is not in Debian) Fluxbox, WindowMaker.......
[09:10] <gnomefreak> !motu
[09:10] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[09:10] <MattSta> cya
[09:11] <ardchoille> raito: http://xwinman.org/  <-- lots of DE's and WM's
[09:11] <elknof3> hi everybody, does someone have pcsx2 running??
[09:11] <SeanTater> !info pcsx2
[09:11] <billybennett> Warbo, sudo update-rc.d mount-dell start 80 1 . start 80 2 . stop 80 6 .
[09:11] <ubotu> Package pcsx2 does not exist in dapper
[09:11] <SeanTater> elkbuntu: never heard of it
[09:12] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: e17 is rather nice
[09:12] <gnomefreak> easy to build just takes forever but turns out nice ;)
[09:12] <Warbo> billybennett: Should be OK. Have a look at some of the init.d scripts to see how to add the start and stop functionality (I don't know how, so I don't bother with any stopping)
[09:12] <raito> on another note, how do you start up VisualBoyAdvance? >_>
[09:12] <marcin__> ale polski kanal nie dziala mi cos
[09:12] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: I'd still be surprised if an average Debian package would break an average ubuntu system. I'd like to think Ubuntu is not quite that fragile.
[09:13] <Warbo> Lynoure: It would happen the other way around too. Don't use Ubuntu package in Debian
[09:13] <hikenboot> hello all---I am having trouble with one of my test machines picking up a dhcp address and tftping over its boot files...my question is does ubuntu or edubuntu enable a firewall by default?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: the packages are different in what they depend on
[09:13] <marcin__> jest tu jakis polak???Z???????????
[09:13] <NoUse> !pl
[09:13] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:13] <Jeriah> Having problems getting my printer to print duplex even though the settings are set for that.
[09:13] <gnomefreak> marcin__: join #ubuntu-pl
[09:14] <chopchop_> gnomefreak: he doesnt understand english
[09:14] <SeanTater> gosh -- In the last ten minutes i could swear !pl has been pulled at least 5 times
[09:14] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: Yes, I know, especially if one compares to sarge.
[09:15] <gnomefreak> chopchop_: he has been given the !pl 5 times now
[09:15] <grodius> can anyone help me with installing the beta3 version of GAIM? IM on wiki, but I still can't get it working
[09:15] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: it has
[09:15] <chopchop_> gnomefreak: whatever
[09:15] <Jeriah> My printer prints normally but not duplex, and It's a HP 1320 NW
[09:15] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: but usually that just results in stuff not installing. Unless one is  foolhardy enough to add slinky repo to their sources.list and hope for the best (I could see things breaking then)
[09:16] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: so I saw, same person
[09:16] <billybennett> Warbo, I'm looking through files in init.d and I'n not sure whatcha mean
[09:16] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: i dont know how foolish people can be safer to not recommend it
[09:17] <paryl> i've been trying setup a logitech v200 mouse... it's a wireless mouse with requires a usb tranceiver.  i can't seem to get ubuntu to recognize it at all though... it doesn't detect /anything/ usb-wise.  any ideas on how to fix this?
[09:17] <_absolution_> hey all....is there some way to change metacity to GTK?
[09:17] <elknof3> marcin__,  cp  /join #ubuntu-pl
[09:17] <chopchop_> paryl: dapper should works
[09:17] <SeanTater> elknof3: actually seen #ubuntu-pl, he's already there
[09:18] <NoUse> _absolution_ metacity is a windwo manager, GTK is a GUI widget set
[09:18] <paryl> chopchop: yes, dapper is installed, but it doesn't see the mouse
[09:18] <gnomefreak> he got there right after i told him first time
[09:18] <NoUse> _absolution_ what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <_absolution_> I'm fiddling around with xfce
[09:18] <chopchop_> paryl: you mean the mouse or the tranceiver
[09:18] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: drivers installed alright, but still can't get x-server to work.
[09:19] <ardchoille> !gnome-help
[09:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnome-help
[09:19] <gnomefreak> PJFC: because you left to fast tehre was more
[09:19] <_absolution_> and trying to customize the themes
[09:19] <gnomefreak> PJFC: are you in ubuntu?
[09:19] <SeanTater> ardchoille: what's wrong?
[09:19] <ardchoille> !##gnome
[09:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about ##gnome
[09:19] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: sorry, dual boot, I have to reboot into linux to try advice.
[09:19] <paryl> chopchop: the tranceiver.  dapper doesn't seem to see anything there.  the live cd didn't recognize it, and it didn't get installed during the main install.  it's just not showing up
[09:19] <_absolution_> oh wait....window manager tweaks
[09:19] <gnomefreak> PJFC: grab pen and paper
[09:19] <Blaze^^> can someone please tell me the exact file for apache2 for setting the sharing directory
[09:19] <Blaze^^> please
[09:19] <ardchoille> SeanTater: just tryiong to remember the factoid for my channel
[09:19] <Warbo> billybennett: The "start" and "stop" mean that when running your script the command will be something like "/etc/init.d/mount-dell start" and "/etc/init.d/mount-dell stop" unless you tell it how to recognise the "starT" and "stop" parameters it will just go ahead and do whatever is in the script. I don't know how to script like that (hence I recommended checking out some of them which are already there) and I made a modem-star
[09:20] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: no, in windowsxp
[09:20] <marcin__> jaki jest polski kanal ??:D
[09:20] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: got them
[09:20] <SeanTater> ardchoille: ok
[09:20] <ardchoille> !tell marcin__ about pl
[09:20] <gnomefreak> PJFC: do you have an onboard videocard
[09:20] <marcin__> dajcie polski kanal
[09:20] <bon_> does anyone know how to reinstall the nvidia 8762 graphics drivers
[09:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[09:20] <marcin__> bo zapomnialem jak sie nazywa :D
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Why would apt keep trying to update gstreamer0.8 when I'm in dapper?
[09:20] <Blaze^^> can someone please tell me the exact file for apache2 for setting the sharing directory
[09:20] <_absolution_> and I get an error message like this....These settings cannot work with your current window manager (Metacity)
[09:20] <Earered> hikenboot: yes, iptables. That doesn't help you much I guess, so what is the problem with dhcp?
[09:20] <SeanTater> ardchoille: unnecessary, that will be the 6th time we've given it to him
[09:20] <ardchoille> ok, marcin__ is clearly just being a turd now
[09:21] <PJFC> replaced it with the new agp nvidia. It is disabled completely
[09:21] <Warbo> DaSkreech: Some things may use it (istanbul and thoggen do)
[09:21] <chopchop_> paryl: my logitech coreless mouse works fine. i dont know 'bout that. i just plug in and then it runs like hell ^^
[09:21] <_absolution_> any help??
[09:21] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: replaced it with the new agp nvidia. It is disabled completely.
[09:21] <tsdgeos> hi
[09:21] <paryl> chopchop: what device path is there for your mouse?
[09:22] <tsdgeos> anyone can help me with fglrx not beign loaded?
[09:22] <Warbo> _absolution_: Should you be using Metacity in XFCE?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> PJFC: did nvidia-glx install ok?
[09:22] <hikenboot> Earered, well the problem is that the client says  NO BOOT FILE NAME RECIEVED
[09:22] <Warbo> tsdgeos: What does "sudo modprobe fglrx" say?
[09:22] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: yes it completed without error
[09:22] <tsdgeos> module not found
[09:22] <_absolution_> how do you disable metacity?
[09:22] <tsdgeos> i have linux-restricted modules
[09:22] <hikenboot> Earered, on another box i  run vmware based vms that pick up a boot file from the same dhcpd.conf server
[09:22] <Blaze^^> hello, can someone please tell me the exact file for apache2 for setting the sharing directory
[09:22] <killme> hey guys, could someone really help me with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201860
[09:22] <chopchop_> paryl: /dev/input/mice
[09:22] <Warbo> tsdgeos: Then you need to install the kernel module. Follow the Wiki
[09:22] <Warbo> !ati
[09:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <ardchoille> _absolution_: if you do that, you won't have a window manager
[09:23] <mikebot> hi, i just got a hauppauge card, and was wondering if anyone could suggest a good tv program for windows
[09:23] <gnomefreak> PJFC: ok in terminal type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  when you finished writing that let me know
[09:23] <Earered> hikenboot, it is the client which is under ubuntu or the server?
[09:23] <_absolution_> so I shouldn't be using XFCE then?
[09:23] <Warbo> _absolution_: Sorry I don't use XFCE
[09:23] <gnomefreak> _absolution_: why not?
[09:23] <ardchoille> _absolution_: you're in xfce now?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> i use it
[09:23] <Warbo> _absolution_: Ask the question again but put "in XFCE" at the end
[09:23] <_absolution_> yes
[09:23] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: i have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver but it gives me an error "x-server not loaded"
[09:23] <tsdgeos> Warbo: they are already installed, just that depmod -av does not see them
[09:23] <chopchop_> paryl: my xorg : http://82.10.194.36:46951/test/xorg.conf
[09:23] <ardchoille> _absolution_: ok, disregard me, I misunderstood you, sorry
[09:23] <Warbo> _absolution_: never mind
[09:24] <gnomefreak> PJFC: we havent gotten there yet
[09:24] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: I'll try those and be right back
[09:24] <gnomefreak> did you write down sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:24] <billybennett> brb Warbo think I got it
[09:24] <gnomefreak> PJFC: no write it down
[09:24] <Warbo> tsdgeos: How did you install them (ubuntu packages, ati installer....?)
[09:24] <tsdgeos> Warbo: ubuntu packages
[09:25] <_absolution_> what's gtk?
[09:25] <Warbo> tsdgeos: Hmmm. My ATI card is unsupported, but they still loaded OK :)
[09:25] <DaSkreech> Warbo: how can I find out what those things are?
[09:25] <_absolution_> I'm sorry....but I'm a complete noob
[09:25] <hikenboot> Earered, the server serving tftp and dhcp is under ubuntu while the client is attempting pxe booting on a 3com nic...the other machine is also running ubuntu with vmware on top of it ..its vm's pick up an address and run the boot file a-ok...only difference is it is using a different mac address of course
[09:25] <tsdgeos> Warbo: can you see if depmod -av | grep fgl returns you something? maybe depmod does not have to show them and i'm looking in the wrong direction
[09:25] <grodius> Can someone give me a guide on how to compile something from source
[09:26] <Warbo> DaSkreech: Try removing gstreamer0.8 and it will also tell you what it needs to remove (since they depend on it)
[09:26] <killaz> guys I tried some things but I can not setup my bluetooth. Can you help me?
[09:26] <mikebot> what program allows me to browse ext3 (and, i guess, ext2) partitions in windows?
[09:26] <paryl> chopchop: mine looks exactly the same, but it doesn't work
[09:26] <Warbo> tsdgeos: I am not using that driver now (it would conflict with radeon driver if I tried to load it) sorry
[09:26] <DaSkreech> Warbo: Good call
[09:26] <ardchoille> grodius: unpack the tarball, then go into the new directory and read the INSTALL and README files.
[09:26] <elknof3> marcin_, Ruch (posuwa; porusza si; doprowadza) do jzyk polski (polski; blask) kana, to jest proste, po prostu (dopiero co) kopiowa (kopia) i ciasto gdzie wy piszecie na maszynie gada stronnikw: /cz #*ubuntu-pl*
[09:26] <paryl> chopchop: rebooting into windows, the mouse works perfectly
[09:26] <tsdgeos> ok
[09:27] <elknof3> can someone help me whit pcsx2??
[09:27] <DaSkreech> rhythumbox
[09:27] <hotgoth_jessica> hi guys, i posted a simple message on the ubuntu forums, but nobody's helping me :( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201860
[09:27] <elknof3> with
[09:27] <gnomefreak> PJFC: when that is finished than you want to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when it asks you would you like to auto detect video hardware (first screen) choose no and make sure the card and the busid port are right than after you finish that whole thing you want sudo nvidia-glx-config enable   <<type that in terminal than restart X (reboot or ctrl+alt+backspace) than you should see the nvidia logo
[09:27] <Warbo> DaSkreech: That's suprising. I'll check mine...
[09:27] <Earered> hikenboot, No idea why it works in a setting and not the other. Sorry :S
[09:28] <SeanTater> ubotu tell mikebot about ext3
[09:28] <hikenboot> Earered, from the ethereal dumps it appears that the client isnt sending back an acceptance packet
[09:28] <mikebot> SeanTater: thanks
[09:28] <SeanTater> mikebot: yw
[09:28] <PJFC> gnomeFreak: thanks. I'll let you know how it goes.
[09:29] <gnomefreak> PJFC: also if you want to do this all in gui oh darn
[09:29] <hikenboot> I flashed upgraded the firmware on the nic to see if it helped but it doesnt
[09:29] <Dalios``> Hi. Where can I find more information on how the Ubuntu X server is configured so that remote apps can connect to it?
[09:29] <chopchop_> paryl: sorry dude i have no idea 'bout that
[09:30] <billybennett> Warbo, didnt work I did  sudo update-rc.d mount-dell defaults
[09:30] <chopchop_> paryl: does dmesg say anything?
[09:30] <hotgoth_jessica> does anyone how to fix this message on bootup: "0 active partition"
[09:30] <vbgunz> how do I convert .ogg to .wav to play on a cd player?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Warbo: Yup that seems to be it
[09:30] <Warbo> billybennett: Try giving it explicit runlevels (and remember the dot at the end)
[09:30] <mikebot> SeanTater: do you know any good tv programs for windows? i was using beyondtv, but it gives me problems
[09:31] <billybennett> Warbo, I went to the directorys rc2.d and I see the file or link in there
[09:31] <SeanTater> mikebot: democracy player
[09:31] <mikebot> SeanTater: thanks again
[09:31] <Spec> why are we talking about tv programs for windows?
[09:31] <SeanTater> mikebot: yw
[09:31] <dogen> mikebot: pplive and ppstream have chinese channels, but they play english movies sometimes
[09:31] <bgclub10> dfgd
[09:31] <mikebot> dogen: oh, i mean like, i got a card to plug coax uinto my computer, to watch cable
[09:32] <bgclub10> ,ll;
[09:32] <Warbo> billybennett: Then see if "sudo /etc/init.d/mount-dell start" runs your script OK. If they are in the right dirs then they should load at boot
[09:32] <dogen> oh ok
[09:32] <SeanTater> mikebot: hum
[09:32] <chopchop_> paryl: try this : unplug your mouse dmesg, plug your mouse then dmesg, compare those
[09:32] <SeanTater> mikebot: that's totally diff
[09:32] <soon> Hi folks ... I want to rip a short segment from a commercial DVD and use it in the Kino video editor ... how can I do this? Should I rip and convert it to DV first? If so - what tool is available to me?
[09:32] <mikebot> oh
[09:32] <chopchop_> paryl: i mean the receiver
[09:32] <Warbo> DaSkreech: My rhythmbox must be using 0.10, but gnomebaker and (unsuprisingly) thoggen are still on 0.8
[09:32] <NoUse> Spec democracy is cross-platform
[09:32] <SeanTater> mikebot: democracy is a tv player for internet
[09:32] <hotgoth_jessica> HAH
[09:32] <mikebot> oh
[09:33] <mikebot> do you know any for what i'm talking about?
[09:33] <SeanTater> mikebot: I have no idea for a player for other forms
[09:33] <mikebot> ok
[09:33] <mikebot> thanks anyway
[09:33] <SeanTater> mikebot: like s-vid in
[09:33] <SeanTater> mikebot: sorry
[09:33] <billybennett> Warbo, no it didnt work
[09:33] <mikebot> s'ok
[09:33] <SeanTater> mikebot: keep asking
[09:34] <finalbeta_> Compiz config talks about super key. What key is the super key?
[09:34] <dogen> finalbeta: super key is windows key
[09:34] <elknof3> !info pcsx2
[09:34] <ubotu> Package pcsx2 does not exist in dapper
[09:34] <DaSkreech> I don't have either of those installed :-(
[09:34] <Warbo> mikebot: I gat PCTV with my TV card. It worked quite well once it was set up (the video detection often complained, and there was no way to bypass the wizard)
[09:34] <finalbeta_> dogen: thnx
[09:34] <AskHL> finalbeta_, it CAN be the windows key. But the window key can be mapped to other things as well. Check the keyboard setup
[09:34] <Earered> hikenboot, I guess that you have done an iptables --list to see if a rule would block those messages?
[09:35] <SeanTater> Warbo: but he wants a winxp program for it
[09:35] <Warbo> SeanTater: PCTV is for XP
[09:35] <SeanTater> Warbo: okay -- sorry
[09:35] <Como|Lappy> Hello!
[09:35] <finalbeta_> AskHL: must be, cuz I tryed the windows key, didn't do much
[09:35] <Warbo> SeanTater: But it was part of the TV card package though
[09:35] <SeanTater> burntsigil: what do you mean?
[09:36] <hikenboot> I didnt purposly enable iptables but i did try iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F; iptables -t mangle -F ....to flush it
[09:36] <Warbo> billybennett: There is probably a problem in the script. Try putting "&& echo 1" "&& echo 2" and stuff between the various stages, then you can tell from the output which bit isn't working
[09:36] <MarcN> vbgunz: have you tried k3b or serpentine to convert mp3 to wav for creating a CD?
[09:36] <jeldert> any aMule users here?
[09:37] <vbgunz> MarcN: no, I don't know what to try
[09:37] <MarcN> vbgunz: try those ;-)
[09:37] <billybennett> Warbo, its a simple command line  sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=administrator,password= //dell/f ~/windows
[09:37] <vbgunz> MarcN: thank, will try them now :)
[09:37] <Warbo> jeldert: I find that it comes up with hardly any results these days, so I use MLDonkey (which doesn't agree with my router's port forwarding)
[09:37] <aridese> hi guys, I cannot add files larger than 4gb to a DVD with k3b -- what is the problem?
[09:38] <Warbo> billybennett: Well I know you don't need the sudo, all bootup scripts are run as root :)
[09:38] <NoUse> aridese what error do you get?
[09:38] <jeldert> Warbo: that's not the problem, it is that I'm seeing a black bar in the Notification Area next to the aMule icon
[09:38] <vbgunz> MarcN: I have serpentine. are you sure it can convert .ogg to .wav? if so, how, I don't see any options for it :(
[09:38] <Como|Lappy> How many of you run ubunto on a laptop?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> PJFC: did it work?
[09:38] <aridese> NoUse, it tells me it is not possible to add >4gb files when i drag and drop
[09:39] <aridese> NoUse, I assume it's a UDF/ISO issue?
[09:39] <MarcN> Como|Lappy: I do
[09:39] <Warbo> jeldert: Sorry, I haven't run it for a while so I don't know what that would mean (did it even use the notification area last time I used it full time?)
[09:39] <Como|Lappy> How well does it do out of the box for things like power management, temperture monitoring, and wireless?
[09:40] <jeldert> just wanted someone to comfirm it
[09:40] <Spec> i have this user...and when he runs any program, ('ps aux', in example), it shows his user's numbers, instead of his username in 'ps', anyone have a clue how to fix this?
[09:40] <PJFC> gnomefreak: no luck, got errors.
[09:40] <Como|Lappy> i can recompile the kernel if needed, im just not interested in dealing with wireless issues
[09:40] <Warbo> jeldert: Is this as in a) a type of notification (black bar=no connection or something) or b) an error?
[09:40] <NoUse> aridese looks like isi9660 doesn't support files that large
[09:41] <PJFC> gnomefreak: the drivers are installed I verified that.
[09:41] <aridese> NoUse, is there a way to use a different filesystem, e.g, UDF?
[09:41] <gnomefreak> PJFC: ok run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver that should give you a gui automaticlly than come back
[09:41] <NoUse> aridese I don't know
[09:41] <MarcN> vbgunz: I'm burning a CD with 'ubuntu Sax' from the ~/Examples directory.
[09:41] <aridese> NoUse, I see, thanks
[09:41] <elknof3> can someone help me with pcsx2 in dapper??
[09:41] <Jimmey__> !restrictredFormats
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about restrictredformats
[09:41] <burntsigil> Nobody actually talks in here that I've noticed.  People just occasionally emote
[09:41] <gnomefreak> PJFC: vesa drivers should give pretty much anyone gui
[09:42] <Jimmey__> !restrictedFormats
[09:42] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[09:42] <goudkov> is there a way to use the date command to display a date 10 days ago?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> PJFC: i know they work on nvidia cards
[09:42] <aridese> goudkov, you pirate, you
[09:42] <onkarshinde> !shipit
[09:42] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[09:42] <Warbo> burntsigil: This is for support. Chatter is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:42] <vbgunz> MarcN: does it automatically convert .ogg to .wav? I am looking for serpentine help but it seems scarce :(
[09:42] <PJFC> gnomefreak: i tried that command and it won't do anything. it gives anerror "x-server notloaded.  Could I edit xorg.conf from windows
[09:42] <MarcN> vbgunz: burn worked, shows up as a single track audio dis
[09:42] <goudkov> aridese: what?
[09:42] <billybennett> Warbo, brb gonna restart and see if it works
[09:42] <aridese> goudkov, trying to bypass copy protection?
[09:42] <goudkov> aridese: lol. trying to archive logs
[09:42] <MarcN> vbgunz: all automatically.  just drag/add an .ogg file and click on burn.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> PJFC: im pretty sure you can but you would have to ask someone else on mounting linux from windows to help with that
[09:43] <aridese> goudkov, sure, whatever you say
[09:43] <vbgunz> MarcN: ok, I will try it. I just saw now options to convert from ogg to wav or anything. I'll try it out now!
 DBO knows all ;)
[09:43] <goudkov> aridese: i doubt you even understood the question. so whatever yourself
[09:43] <DBO> gnomefreak, i do?
[09:43] <paryl> chopchop: yeah, nothing at all happens
[09:43] <PJFC> I can already read the file import from the drive and export back to it.  Paragon Partition Manager
[09:43] <gnomefreak> lol i hope so cause im clueless when it comes to winxp
[09:43] <paryl> chopchop: dmesg shows nothing
[09:44] <PJFC> gnomefreak: I can already read the file import from the drive and export back to it.  Paragon Partition Manager
[09:44] <chopchop_> paryl: i get something like this 'input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver]  on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1.1
[09:44] <gnomefreak> PJFC: can you edit it?
[09:44] <aridese> goudkov, tim@kyoto:~$ date
[09:44] <aridese>   22 15:44:26 EDT 2006
[09:44] <aridese>  -- parse the date with grep, do a -10, if negative, then plus 31
[09:45] <aridese> depending on month
[09:45] <MarcN> Como|Lappy:  dapper on laptop, depends on the hardware.  mine is pretty good.
[09:45] <goudkov> aridese: no shit. i was checking if there is an offset option as with the date commands of over nix variants
[09:45] <Como|Lappy> well, i guess ill give it a shot
[09:45] <goudkov> aridese: but i guess not
[09:46] <aridese> goudkov, you're smarter than you seemed at first sight
[09:46] <Como|Lappy> its fairly new hardware
[09:46] <PJFC> gnomefreak: I can bring it into windows and edit it and then port it back.  I must use a text editor that uses unix EOL format
[09:46] <] grimm[> Does anyone know if I can view Japanese files and folders on an external reiser drive that is encoded in euc-jp in my utf-8 ubuntu environment?  (without changing my locale in ubuntu)
[09:46] <gnomefreak> PJFC: im not sure what one does
[09:46] <paryl> chopchop: yeah, grepping dmesg shows nothing at all with HID
[09:46] <paryl> :\
[09:47] <jeldert> Warbo: filled a bug, with a picture of the problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amule/+bug/50716
[09:47] <gnomefreak> bbs store awaits
[09:47] <chopchop_> paryl: think you should try on another machine (linux one)
[09:48] <billybennett> Warbo, no luck
[09:48] <PJFC> gnomefreak: Thank you for your efforts. I'll try DBO
[09:48] <PJFC> DBO; I am having trouble with x-server, can you help?
[09:48] <DBO> PJFC, whats going west?
[09:49] <Como|Lappy> gah, the ubuntu server is slow
[09:49] <PJFC> DBO: installed new video (nvidia 6200), x-server won't start. No GUI only text
[09:49] <mog_> hey i have a question about installing ubuntu, i386 ver., desktop mode.
[09:49] <DBO> PJFC, ok, have you already given xserver-xorg a reconfigure?
[09:50] <Patrick|Mit> sorry guys
[09:50] <mog_> on one of my computers, it freezes when it gets past the formatting at 15%, when "installing system" just begins.
[09:50] <paryl> chopchop: unfortunately i don't have another on at the moment :\
[09:50] <Patrick|Mit> i really need help with wifi
[09:50] <PJFC> DBO: gnomefreak helped me to install drivers. x-server still not working.
[09:50] <mog_> it says "cannot create file system"; its the automatic partitioning with ext3 and a swap
[09:50] <Patrick|Mit> why does ubuntu crash the system if i enter ifconfig rausb0 up?
[09:50] <PJFC> DBO: won't reconfigure get error saying 'x-server not loaded'
[09:50] <mog_> on this other comp im using its installing fine right now, so its not the cd's issue
[09:50] <DBO> PJFC, do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you SHOULD have the option to select the nvidia drivers
[09:51] <PJFC> DBO: won't reconfigure get error saying 'x-server not loaded'
[09:51] <chopchop_> paryl: :/ so bring a live cd with you when u go to work or study, there have to be some other machines for u right?
[09:51] <DBO> PJFC, sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[09:51] <PJFC> DBO: i'll try that and let you, by for now
[09:52] <Patrick|Mit> hmmm... again no one there
[09:52] <Patrick|Mit> :(
[09:52] <mog_> is there some way to bypass the file system setup when i install, and instead do it beforehand, in the liveCD mode?
[09:52] <Irish_guy> hey guys what should i do if i wanna gewt online with 56k when i have no parralel port on my laptop?
[09:53] <linux1> while setting write support for ntfs drives i forgot to remeber the gid group code given(sudo addgroup ntfs) how do i found out the code please
[09:53] <Earered> hikenboot, in last ressort, try a more ancient or recent kernel (some people had problem with some network card with 2.6.15) sorry to not be of much help
[09:53] <MarcN> Como|Lappy: what type of laptop do you have? My hp/compaq nc6000 is nicely detected.  wireless, bluetooth, video, etc.  no lm-sensors though.
[09:53] <Patrick|Mit> huhu *bug* how to get wlan working with wpa2 and usb stick using ralink chipset
[09:53] <Patrick|Mit> without crashing the computer
[09:53] <LPent> Hi, can anybody help me with this: I have an asus a6vm and in volume control I can see HDA-Intel (Alsa) and Realtek ALC880 (OSS). The first seems to work, the second gives me a high pitched noise. However, I don't have any sound from my headphones (I do from the speakers).
[09:54] <LKRaider> linux1: execute cat /etc/group|grep ntfs
[09:54] <linux1> thanks :)
[09:55] <hikenboot> Eared, on the contrary you are a great help
[09:55] <hikenboot> I am running bleeding edge ubuntu 6.06...I think if i remember right
[09:55] <LKRaider> linux1: no prob :)
[09:56] <Irish_guy> lpent : i have that problem with my laptop to
[09:56] <hikenboot> 2.6.15-23-386
[09:56] <LPent> Irish_guy: any luck yet finding a solution?
[09:56] <Como|Lappy> so this dapper iso, does it double as a livecd?
[09:56] <bon_> i fixed it
[09:56] <Zambezi> How can I list a channels on Freenode? /list doesn't work.
[09:57] <Irish_guy> ehhh no unfortunatly....but you said yours in an intel chipset to?
[09:57] <bimberi> Como|Lappy: if it has 'desktop' in it then yes
[09:57] <billybennett> Warbo, I'm going crazy!!! lol
[09:57] <bimberi> !channels
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about channels
[09:57] <killaz> heh guys I have a sitecom bluetooth dongle how can I make it work.....
[09:57] <LjL> Como|Lappy: it's more like a live cd that doubles as an install cd, but yes ;)
[09:58] <bimberi> Zambezi: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[10:00] <Zambezi> bimberi, Thanks.
[10:00] <bimberi> Zambezi: np :)
[10:00] <Earered> hikenboot, if you can read french that seems to be the problematic kernel : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=331839, try a more ancient (or an i686 or k7 one perhaps)
[10:00] <Irish_guy> anyone have a soloution ti get a laptop online with 56k when i have no serial port?
[10:01] <r3nd3r0> use a converter ?
[10:01] <psyke83> hi, when I change my theme to Clearlooks, the window decoration stays orange (it should be blue), can someone help?
[10:01] <bimberi> Irish_guy: usb docking station?
[10:01] <Irish_guy> but will the converter definatley work?
[10:01] <Irish_guy> i have usb
[10:01] <r3nd3r0> do u have a parallel port ?
[10:02] <Irish_guy> no, i said that
[10:02] <r3nd3r0> u said u have no serial port
[10:02] <avalost> _finally_ got e107 compiled/installed
[10:02] <avalost> err
[10:02] <avalost> e17
[10:03] <Irish_guy> i need a hardware modem that will work with either firewire (if it exists) or usb
[10:03] <bimberi> Irish_guy: i've seen usb docking stations for sale (with serial/parallel ports etc).  Not used one though.  Just a suggestion
[10:03] <Irish_guy> in ubuntu
[10:03] <Irish_guy> kk, but will it work?
[10:03] <Irish_guy> would you say?
[10:04] <aridese> why won't k3b let me add files larger than 4gb?
[10:05] <duster> Can anybody help with Anjuta IDE problems?
[10:07] <MattS423> hey, i'm having problems setting up my sound
[10:07] <MattS423> actually, i don't think ALSA is on here at all
[10:07] <MattS423> is that normal?
[10:08] <Irish_guy> anyone!
[10:08] <MattS423> hello
[10:09] <heatxsink> hello all, my thinkpad T43p PCMCIA port isn't functioning do you think it's the dirver?
[10:09] <MattS423> possibably
[10:09] <aridese> why won't k3b let me add files larger than 4gb onto a DVD?
[10:09] <ajith54> how to reload /etc/hosts
[10:09] <ajith54> in windows we use nbtstat -R
[10:09] <MattS423> but i know about as much as the enxt guy
[10:10] <Pjott> Damn...
[10:10] <Pjott> I can't make my keyboard Norwegian
[10:10] <linux1> can someone help me ive set up ntfs write support but i can only access the drive from /media/hdb1 any ideas why was working using read only support
[10:10] <Pjott> I get this huge error when trying
[10:11] <ajith54> how to reload /etc/hosts
[10:11] <MattS423> anybody know about sound?
[10:12] <FearMoth> I'm trying to install vmware workstation on kubuntu dapper, and I need to compile a vmmon module, but the vmware installer says "the path /usr/src/linux/include is a kernel header file directory, but it does not contain the file linux/version.h as expected" ... do I need to rebuild my kernel, or is there a way around it?
[10:12] <duster> sorry, no, my sound is giving trouble too
[10:12] <r3nd3r0> yeah its somethhin u hear
[10:12] <Pjott> Can someone please help me? :s
[10:12] <Pjott> I have explained, but if you need it one more time, let me know :)
[10:12] <r3nd3r0> Pjott,  whats the error
[10:13] <DaveyJ> quick question.. whats a good script for xchat2/xmms for "now playing" -- i was searching the xchat2 page and most of the links are broken
[10:13] <Pjott> r3nd3r0: May I send you a txt file?
[10:13] <Pjott> I have copied/pasted it there
[10:13] <Pjott> NO viruses, heh
[10:13] <gregasche> I dual boot between Ubuntu and Windows, I want to reformat windows but I'm afraid when I do so, Windows will write on the MBR over my GRUB settings. What do I need to do to make sure GRUB works again once I reformat?
[10:13] <r3nd3r0> past first 3  lines here
[10:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell gregasche about grub
[10:14] <alex__> can somebody help me
[10:14] <jrib> !helpme
[10:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:14] <alex__> how to mount a secondary ext3 hdd
[10:14] <alex__> ubuntu gnome
[10:15] <jrib> alex__: do you want to mount temporarily or have it mounted automatically on boot?
[10:15] <r3nd3r0> alex__, use the mount command
[10:15] <tomlikestorock> I have an amd turion 64 acer laptop, and I just got my ati drivers working on the 386 kernel. Is there any reason why I would want to switch to the 686 kerneL?
[10:15] <MattS423> hey, when i type "alsaconf" at the terminal, is it supposed to reconginze the command?
[10:15] <alex__> i want use it to save files
[10:16] <tomasz> hi - I wont to install a deb package - igoring one of dependencies - and not to have it listed as broken later - is there a way to make it ?
[10:16] <Warbo> MattS423: I think that's obsolete now
[10:16] <MattS423> ahh
[10:16] <MattS423> then how do i configure my sound?
[10:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell alex__ about fstab
[10:16] <alex__> i am not so good in engish
[10:16] <jrib> alex__: what language do you prefer?
[10:16] <alex__> german
[10:16] <jrib> !de
[10:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:16] <Warbo> MattS423: I have asked myself that question many times :)
[10:17] <ELITE_N00B> a question guys, about computers in general.....can i use two RAM cards in the one computer which are different sizes, one 128MB and one 256MB?
[10:17] <MattS423> haha
[10:17] <r3nd3r0> ubotu, cool :)
[10:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about cool :)
[10:17] <tomlikestorock> elite: yes
[10:17] <MattS423> yeah, i've got no sound going on
[10:17] <ELITE_N00B> and it will work no problems?
[10:17] <SeanTater> ubotu tell r3nd3r0 about bot
[10:17] <fredsa> matts423, join the club
[10:17] <tomlikestorock> elite: I /think/ they have to be the same "speed" but I'm not sure. Otherwise, yes, it should just work
[10:17] <MattS423> the thing is, i have a soundblaster card
[10:17] <MattS423> so it should work, right?
[10:17] <fredsa> although my card  works because I hear a drum roll before logging in
[10:18] <MattS423> at least, in theory
[10:18] <tomlikestorock> I have an amd turion 64 acer laptop, and I just got my ati drivers working on the 386 kernel. Is there any reason why I would want to switch to the 686 kernel?
[10:18] <MarcN> ELITE_N00B: depends on the motherboard, but usually it will for home pc.  Give it a try.  if it passes the BIOS, be happy.
[10:18] <fredsa> matts423, if it's listed in the alsa-project.org website then it should work
[10:18] <SpeedyIndy> !samba
[10:18] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:18] <fredsa> matt423, I'm pretty sure a soundblaster would be supported
[10:18] <tomlikestorock> !686
[10:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about 686
[10:18] <Nitro> !nvidia64
[10:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvidia64
[10:19] <MattS423> yeah
[10:19] <Nitro> !i686
[10:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about i686
[10:19] <SeanTater> tomlikestorock: it's a faster compiling moe that only works on newer computers
[10:19] <Warbo> MattS423: If it is ISA then you will need to load the modules by hand (they have  a problem autodetecting and they are not all loaded to fix this, since that may break the system)
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> Sean: it's a band new laptop
[10:19] <SeanTater> tomlikestorock: then install linux-686
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> Sean: is that all it provides me with? Are there no other benefits?
[10:20] <SeanTater> tomlikestorock: nope, just faster, for some, nearly twice as fast
[10:20] <MattS423> i don;t think its ISA but i'm not sure
[10:20] <xophEr> mm, any ideas how I can convert ogg to mp3?
[10:20] <heatxsink> hello all I have an ibm thinkpad T43p and the PCMCIA slot doesn't work, any ideas other than  it may be broken?discrepancies
[10:20] <r3nd3r> where can i download binary packages for an adsl dialer ?
[10:20] <r3nd3r> other than pppoeconfig
[10:20] <Warbo> xophEr: "sudo apt-get install soundconverter" ?
[10:20] <MattS423> hum
[10:20] <MattS423> the bus type is listed as "pnp"
[10:20] <xophEr> Warbo, thank you
[10:21] <Warbo> r3nd3r: For what modem? (they are all different)
[10:21] <r3nd3r> Warbo, adsl+ 2
[10:21] <Warbo> xophEr: There is MP3 support in that, but it doesn;t work for me (the button is ghosted out)
[10:21] <r3nd3r> Warbo, beetle 220bx
[10:21] <calmdown> weird
[10:21] <calmdown> hm
[10:21] <bipolar> is there a way to have a daemon started by an initscript be automaticly restarted, like respawn in inittab?
[10:22] <calmdown> change all repositories to se or us.archive ?
[10:22] <xophEr> Warbo, you probably dont have the right gstreamer plugins installed..
[10:22] <Warbo> r3nd3r: Hmmm. Never heard of that sorry. The known supported modems are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem
[10:22] <tomlikestorock> !kernel
[10:22] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:22] <xophEr> argh, it depends on gstreamer0.8, dont wanna install an obsolete gstreamer just for that 
[10:23] <Warbo> xophEr: Ah, that may be why I have no MP3 support (I only have packages installed to satisfy gnomebaker and thoggen)
[10:23] <r3nd3r> btw its not a usb modem
[10:23] <ajith54> How to enable outward DNS request in iptables :(
[10:23] <Warbo> r3nd3r: Oh, it's a router? (ethernet)
[10:23] <r3nd3r> Warbo, yeah
[10:24] <mohkohn> hello I just installed google earth on dapper xubuntu
[10:24] <Warbo> r3nd3r: Oh, I use the System>Administration>Networking for that (whatever command that executes)
[10:24] <ELITE_N00B> where can i find if certain hardware is supported by linux or not?
[10:24] <r3nd3r> Warbo, tried that with no luck
[10:24] <r3nd3r> Warbo, what do u do after u configure eth0
[10:24] <mohkohn> It went well except that where google earth should be there is the blackness of space
[10:24] <r3nd3r> i need to dial
[10:24] <r3nd3r> with user and pass
[10:24] <mohkohn> Is there a fix for this?
[10:24] <r3nd3r> it says something like pppoe.o module loaded
[10:24] <jrib> ubotu: tell ELITE_N00B about hardware
[10:24] <Warbo> mohkohn: Do you have no 3D drivers or something?
[10:25] <r3nd3r> but i cant ping google
[10:25] <tomlikestorock> !tell ELITE_N00B about hardware
[10:25] <MarcN> mohkohn: do you have your proxies set (if you need them)
[10:25] <calmdown> try pinging the ip?
[10:25] <r3nd3r> my isp uses dhcp
[10:25] <r3nd3r> dns is also auto configured
[10:25] <r3nd3r> works fine on windows
[10:25] <he-man> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 and I can't because just before the gdm screen it stays with black background and with the cursor theme waiting. I upgraded to patch 25 of 2.6.15 of the kernel and installed nvidia drivers and didn't work. Can anyone help, please?
[10:26] <mohkohn> I doubt I have the 3d drivers
[10:27] <mohkohn> this is my rather sad graphics card
[10:27] <mohkohn> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[10:27] <fredsa> he-man, can you get a terminal with ctrl-alt-f1, and did the livecd work?
[10:28] <duster> Can anybody help with Ajuta IDE editor
[10:28] <_absolution_> how do I remove the KDE desktop enviroment?
[10:28] <billybennett> Warbo I cant figure it out rofl
[10:29] <fredsa> _absolution_: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop(?)
[10:29] <alex__> what is the code? i want to mount a ext3 like a second parition 4 files that can use all users
[10:29] <alex__> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[10:29] <alex__> #
[10:29] <alex__> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[10:29] <alex__> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[10:29] <alex__> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:29] <alex__> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:29] <billybennett> Warbo, if I run the script from init.d it works perfectly
[10:29] <alex__> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:29] <alex__> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[10:29] <Lobster> gn8
[10:29] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[10:29] <alex__> i was a windows user
[10:30] <mohkohn> Is thre something I can install to get 3d to work on this?
[10:30] <_absolution_> will I lose any programs....??....
[10:30] <alex__> i dont know what to do
[10:30] <fredsa> _absolution_: I'm not sure. When I uninstalled the xfce desktop, most of the programs stayed
[10:30] <Frederick> folks how do I enable colours in konsole?
[10:31] <jrib> alex__: please don't paste here.  Use a pastebin instead.  What is the device name of the ext3 partition you want to mount?
[10:31] <parsix_> hi  guys
[10:31] <parsix_> anyone here on intel 915?
[10:32] <_absolution_> ok
[10:32] <parsix_> !intel
[10:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel
[10:32] <jrib> alex__: like /dev/something, do you know what it is?
[10:32] <alex__> hdb1
[10:32] <_absolution_> why isn't my mouse working on the E desktop?...
[10:32] <_absolution_> actually it's just the left button
[10:32] <alex__> /dev/hdb1
[10:32] <jrib> alex__: ok, do this command: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:32] <parsix_> anyone here on sonoma platform?
[10:33] <Hoxzer_> Btw does kernel in default ubuntu support NTFS now days?
[10:33] <jrib> alex__: then add this line to the bottom: /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1           ext3    defaults        0       2
[10:33] <jrib> alex__: and then save it, and run this command: sudo mkdir /media/hdb1 && sudo mount -a
[10:34] <alex__> have i to enable the hdd in the disk manager
[10:34] <jrib> alex__: no
[10:34] <SpeedyIndy> how can i share files on NTFS drives over a network?
[10:36] <alex__> what is that dir #2lost+found"
[10:36] <alex__> "lost+found"
[10:36] <alex__> ?
[10:36] <iorek> hi! where can i download the right linux-source dapper package when uname -r returns 2.6.15-23-386?
[10:37] <mohkohn> Can I install open gl or would ubuntu have detected it during install?
[10:37] <pom> hello, my laptop uses laptop-mode, I set LM_BATT_HD_IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS=600 but the hd keeps spinning down at 5 secs, any solutions?
[10:37] <daxxar> alex__, it contains data that fsck has unlinked from the filesystem. (or is it data that fsck has found that was unlinked from the filesystem but shouldn't be, or corrupted inodes?)
[10:37] <jrib> alex__: http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/lostfound.shtml
[10:37] <daxxar> (or read that)
[10:38] <alex__> thanks#
[10:38] <Frederick> folks how do I enable colours in konsole?
[10:38] <Pelo> hey guys,  if I want to install  OO 2.02 in french do I need to uninsall  OO 2.1 that came iwth ubuntu first ?
[10:38] <Nitro_Boy> howdy
[10:38] <Dalios``> Hi. Where can I find more information on how the Ubuntu X server is configured so that remote apps can connect to it?
[10:39] <Pelo> Dalios``  the www.ubuntu.com/wiki ?
[10:39] <Huh1> Hey. What other music players are there for ubuntu apart from rhythmbox? i'm not too fond of the shuffle function of it...
[10:39] <ddrj> hey guys, 1) what's the benefit of having a swap partition 2) how big does it have to be?
[10:39] <jrib> !players
[10:39] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[10:39] <Pelo> Huh1  I use listen
[10:39] <Nitro_Boy> lol
[10:40] <Dalios``> Pelo: unfortunately I am unable to find anything in the Wiki
[10:40] <Nitro_Boy> Probably a n00b question
[10:40] <MarcN> Dalios``: usually all you need to do is:   ssh -qN -f -XC you@other.host.com some-x-app
[10:40] <he-man> fredsa: I haven't tried
[10:40] <Nitro_Boy> but im still having trouble with the make function
[10:40] <Pelo> hey guys,  if I want to install  OO 2.02 in french do I need to uninsall  OO 2.1 that came iwth ubuntu first ?
[10:40] <jrib> Nitro_Boy: what kind of trouble?
[10:40] <Nitro_Boy> It says no target- and I installed build-essentials
[10:40] <he-man> fredsa: I installed it from the live cd and later I tried the alternate cd and with both happened the same thing
[10:40] <Huh1> ok, so which audioplayer of those mentioned is closest to the functions of winamp? if possible I'd like hotkey support
[10:40] <jrib> Nitro_Boy: what are you trying to compile?
[10:41] <Pelo> Nitro_Boy  you need to navigate your way to the right folder first
[10:41] <mohkohn> how do you install opengl on dapper?
[10:41] <Nitro_Boy> Gaim 2 beta 3
[10:41] <Frederick> also do I need to alias ls to ls --colour?
[10:41] <Nitro_Boy> yea, i'm in the right folder- the configure function works just fine.
[10:41] <Dalios``> MarcN: Basically, the remote APP is trying to connect to my local X Server on a specific port. I do not have control over the remote APP, but I need my X server to be listening on a specific port for such requests
[10:41] <jrib> ubotu: tell Nitro_Boy about gaim2
[10:41] <he-man> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 and I can't because just before the gdm screen it stays with black background and with the cursor theme waiting. I upgraded to patch 25 of 2.6.15 of the kernel and installed nvidia drivers and didn't work. Can anyone help, please?
[10:41] <Pelo> Huh1  none, use synaptic and search for listne, I think you'll like ti
[10:42] <fredsa> he-man: the only thing I can think to suggest is to login to a shell and type `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[10:42] <jrib> Nitro_Boy: there are some packages available for you at the link ubotu sent you
[10:42] <mog_> does ubuntu not have cvs, svn, or gmake?
[10:42] <LPent> HELP, I just tried to install the alsa-driver1.0.9 because of a soundproblem, but now I can't login the GUI, I get this error: libasound.so.2 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory.  How can I solve this?
[10:42] <lufis> Hi. I opened Menu Editor in Xubuntu and it was empty. I closed it and now my menus are empty as well. Any ideas?
[10:42] <jrib> Huh1: probably beep or xmms, but the others are nice... hotkey setup might not be so straight forward for them though (at least not in my experience)
[10:43] <jrib> mog_: they are all available in the repositories.  gmake is just make
[10:43] <Pelo> mohkohn  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[10:43] <Como|Lappy> ok, no one seemed to be available earlyer.. .im burning ubuntu right now, is it a live disk?
[10:43] <Nitro_Boy> jrib oh nice thanks
[10:43] <Huh1> pelo: i'll give it a try.
[10:43] <jrib> mog_: cvs, subversion, build-essential are the packages you probably want
[10:43] <Frederick> should I set alias ls="ls  --color=auto" in bashrc?
[10:44] <he-man> fredsa: the nvidia logo is shown and the cursor theme is that of xserver, do you think this is an xserver problem?
[10:44] <Pelo> Huh1  I'm a winamp user to and theonly one I like in ubu is listen
[10:44] <Pelo> not quite the same but easy enough
[10:44] <mog_> jrib: ok thanks
[10:44] <MarcN> Dalios``: that is kinda strange setup.  by default X doesn't listen for random incoming connections.  See the /etc/X11 configuration files for changing that.  Consider using ssh tunnels to add security & port redirection.
[10:44] <Frederick> hey folks any idea for me?
[10:44] <jrib> Como|Lappy: the "regular" disk (not alternate) is both a live cd and install cd
[10:44] <Krhis> This is odd.... I'm working on a 444KB mysqldump and both gedit and bluefish lockup on it.
[10:45] <Nitro_Boy> another stupid question (i'm good at them) but what are GTK engines for?
[10:45] <Jessehk> If I've downloaded some source code and 'configure'd and 'make'd, but not 'make install',  nothing is installed on the system. Right?
[10:45] <mnk> i am trying to install ntfs for linux by paragon and i'm getting this error:Can't find compiled modules for kernel 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 - Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again. anyone know what the problem is and how to solve it please?
[10:45] <Rebecca354> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper I need to make a  link to the kernel source from
[10:45] <Rebecca354> the modules directory. How would I go about doing that : )
[10:45] <MarcN> Krhis: use emacs my child
[10:45] <Como|Lappy> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[10:45] <Dalios``> MarcN: yeah.. I know its strange heh. I will try your suggestion out. Thanks.
[10:45] <Como|Lappy> so this should run live?
[10:45] <Pelo> Nitro_Boy  graphics
[10:45] <fredsa> he-man, have you checked the logfile in /var/log?
[10:45] <Krhis> emacs? Err.... ok then.
[10:45] <void^> Jessehk: correct
[10:45] <Como|Lappy> im fairly sure its not alt
[10:45] <jrib> Frederick: yeah that alias should work
[10:45] <finalbeta_> Is there a fix for video playback under xgl? It's verry slow.
[10:45] <pom> hello, my laptop uses laptop-mode, I set LM_BATT_HD_IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS=600 but the hd keeps spinning down at 5 secs, any solutions?
[10:45] <Frederick> jrib, no change
[10:45] <Huh1> pelo: that's nice. thanks for the help. but I can't find any "listen" in synaptic
[10:45] <Jessehk> void^,  Thanks. Good way to test out the development Ruby version.
[10:45] <Spy> hey guys
[10:45] <jrib> Como|Lappy: yes, that should
[10:45] <MarcN> Krhis: emacs is the best editor ever.  And can edit large files.
[10:45] <jrib> Frederick: source ~/.bashrc
[10:46] <Como|Lappy> allright, its done burning
[10:46] <Frederick> bash: /home/imanewbie/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[10:46] <mohkohn> Pelo. I know apt-get and apt-cache search. Using xubuntu
[10:46] <Pelo> Huh1  you might have to enable the extra repositories
[10:46] <void^> pom: stop/start the service
[10:46] <Huh1> i did.
[10:46] <Como|Lappy> if it works well all should be happy :)
[10:46] <Krhis> MarcN, VIM has my vote for both of those requirments. :P
[10:46] <mnk> i am trying to install ntfs for linux by paragon and i'm getting this error:Can't find compiled modules for kernel 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 - Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again. anyone know what the problem is and how to solve it please?
[10:46] <mog_> jrib: you mean to get these through synaptic right?
[10:46] <timboteam> Hello whoever can help me, I have a question. Yesterday I had installed Network manager and had internet working fine, but today once I turned on my computer I do not have a network manager, and it won't open. I don't understand what changed and how to solve it.
[10:46] <jrib> Krhis: emacs or vim should both work well, choose your poison :)
[10:46] <Frederick> I dont have bashrc
[10:46] <mohkohn> What is the package called that installs open gl?
[10:46] <jrib> mog_: yeah
[10:46] <pom> void^: done that, no solution
[10:47] <Huh1> Pelo:  sorry i can't find it.
[10:47] <Nitro_Boy> jrib: what file do i want to get?
[10:47] <Krhis> MarcN, I don't think filesize is an issue. I have 3gb of RAM and half a terrabyte of HDD space.
[10:47] <Frederick> how do I fix it?
[10:47] <Pelo> Huh1  ... how about automatix ?
[10:47] <mohkohn> Or should it have detected my card during install and set up open gl?
[10:47] <mnk> pls someone help :(
[10:48] <Rebecca354> how do I make a link to the kernel source from the modules directory?
[10:48] <mog_> jrib: there's not "cvs", but a bunch of packages with cvs in the name; do you mean "cvs-buildpackage"?
[10:48] <Rebecca354> I'm installing ndiswrapper
[10:48] <Huh1> btw I installed athcool which will regulate my athlon xp, so it will become slower when used less etc... however I need to enter sudo athcool on everytime I boot up. is there some "boot.ini" stuff where I can put it to?
[10:48] <void^> pom: check with `laptop_mode status` if battery state etc are correct
[10:48] <GTX> I'm running one of my Ubuntu servers as a firewall for my core network, at the moment I have been using some simple iptables rules. Is there any other programs which could detect a ddos? or a spam of ips and automaticlay block it.
[10:48] <jrib> !info cvs
[10:48] <ubotu> cvs: Concurrent Versions System. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.12.9-17 (dapper), package size 1407 kB, installed size 3140 kB
[10:48] <timboteam> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[10:48] <mnk> can anyone help me with my problem?
[10:49] <Rebecca354> can anyone help me?
[10:49] <jrib> mog_: there should be cvs, you can just use the cli: sudo apt-get install cvs subversion build-essential
[10:49] <mog_> jrib: i'm not terribly familiar with synaptic, that may be why
[10:49] <timboteam> !networkmanager
[10:49] <batrick> Hi, i just installed ubuntu on my new comp, but the OS loads into a terminal and doesn't run X11 which is in my $PATH but the directory doesn't exist so I don't think it was installed. I didn't encounter any errors in the installation, and I've tried two different discs. There may be other things I guess there were also not installed that may need to be, i don't know.
[10:49] <batrick> After installing, and rebooting, I didn't get any further installation instructions which I found odd. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[10:49] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[10:49] <infinity__> im tryin to install bluetooth how do i get btsco working?
[10:50] <jrib> Nitro_Boy: you can either download the one for your arch (i386 or amd64) or add the repository to your sources.list and install it that way
[10:50] <mnk> i am trying to install ntfs for linux by paragon and i'm getting this error:Can't find compiled modules for kernel 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 - Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again. anyone know what the problem is and how to solve it please?
[10:50] <mog_> jrib: ok, thanks a lot
[10:50] <mohkohn> Will sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev get me Open-GL?
[10:50] <Krhis> MarcN, problems generating the GUI by the looks of it. Syntax highlighting perhaps?
[10:50] <jrib> mog_: np
[10:51] <MarcN> Krhis: use:    emacs -nw bigfile
[10:51] <linux1> how do you install torreflux ive install teh mysql.php,apachie thing but that do i do now
[10:51] <Krhis> MarcN, already did. Works ok.
[10:51] <pom> void^: yes it's discharging
[10:51] <mog_> jrib: it says selecting cvsnt instead of cvs; subversion is not available.
[10:52] <pom> void^: even with laptop-mode on stop the HD spins down
[10:52] <jrib> !info subversion
[10:52] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In repository main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[10:52] <jrib> mog_: can you put your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link plesae?
[10:52] <mnk> can anyone help me with my problem?
[10:52] <mnk> pretty please!
[10:52] <mog_> sorry; could you point me to where sources.list is
[10:52] <Rebecca354> How would I make a link to the kernel source from the modules directory?
[10:53] <RadiantFire> mog_: /etc/apt/
[10:53] <ajayc> can someone direct me to the latest cd
[10:53] <Rebecca354> could someone pm me?
[10:53] <GTX> I'm running one of my Ubuntu servers as a firewall for my core network, at the moment I have been using some simple iptables rules. Is there any other programs which could detect a ddos? or a spam of ips and automaticlay block it.
[10:53] <mnk> mog_: /etc/apt/sources,list
[10:53] <mog_> mnk: thx
[10:53] <mnk> mog_: np
[10:53] <ajayc> can someone direct me to the latest cd
[10:53] <mnk> can anyone pls help me??
[10:53] <beerfan> Where is a current WPA howto for dapper? The one on the wiki seems to be out of date
[10:53] <trappist> GTX: there's nothing you can do about a ddos.  only your isp can do anything about it.
[10:53] <infinity__> im trying to install btsco and bluetooth/bluetooth.h is missing, how do i get it?
[10:53] <mog_> haha ok everythings commented out because it failed to verify.
[10:53] <Huh1>  btw I installed athcool which will regulate my athlon xp, so it will become slower when used less etc... however I need to enter sudo athcool on everytime I boot up. is there some "boot.ini" stuff where I can put it to?
[10:54] <ajayc> can someone direct me to the latest cd
[10:54] <mnk> i am trying to install ntfs for linux by paragon and i'm getting this error:Can't find compiled modules for kernel 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 - Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again. anyone know what the problem is and how to solve it please?
[10:54] <GTX> trappist, I am my own ISP, I have a whole rack in a datacentre and 5 gbit peering. I need software I can install on my firewall server to detect the ips and block it upstream.
[10:54] <qt4x11> hi
[10:54] <ajayc> can someone direct me to the latest cd
[10:54] <qt4x11> anyway to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[10:54] <mnk> ajayc: latest cd of what?
[10:55] <qt4x11> without reinstall?
[10:55] <ajayc> mnk, ubuntu
[10:55] <jrib> ajayc: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:55] <mnk> ajayc: where r u?
[10:55] <infinity__> neone here have btsco installed?
[10:55] <timboteam> Can someone help me? Network manager is installed and supposedly ready to go, yet It does not show up and I cannot connect to the internet!
[10:55] <trappist> GTX: you might look into snort, then
[10:55] <ajayc> mnk, india
[10:55] <GTX> trappist, Thanks :)
[10:55] <ajayc> i am downloading from china?
[10:55] <mindspit> hallo!
[10:55] <Rebecca354> I need some help
[10:55] <Seq> does anybody know if xorg supports dynamic clocks on intel integrated graphics?
[10:55] <mnk> ajayc: yeah that should do
[10:55] <Rebecca354> please
[10:55] <ajayc> mnk, ok
[10:55] <pom> void^: even with hdparm -S 10 /dev/sda the HD spins down
[10:55] <beerfan> Where is a current WPA howto for dapper? The one on the wiki seems to be out of date
[10:56] <lolek> hallo
[10:56] <mnk> i am trying to install ntfs for linux by paragon and i'm getting this error:Can't find compiled modules for kernel 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1 - Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again. anyone know what the problem is and how to solve it please?
[10:56] <lolek> fuck
[10:56] <jrib> !language
[10:56] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:56] <mnk> lolek: pls dude!
[10:56] <alex__> i am not able to copy something on the hdd
[10:56] <alex__> what to do
[10:56] <timboteam> Can someone help me? Network manager is installed and supposedly ready to go, yet It does not show up and I cannot connect to the internet!
[10:56] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, in here it works best to state the problem, then those who know the topic can help
[10:56] <mnk> can someone PLEASE help me????
[10:57] <jrib> alex__: do you have the proper permissions in the directory you are copying to?
[10:57] <mnk> what does this mean and how to fix it?? : Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again.
[10:57] <alex__> no
[10:57] <void^> pom: does hdparm even work on that disk? does `hdparm -y /dev/sda` spin it down?
[10:57] <alex__> how to change it chmod 777
[10:57] <stuart_> do anyone no how to setup irda on ubuntu
[10:57] <Simo1> anyone know why the install of ubuntu 6.06 desktop suddenly stops at 30% and dont give me an error or anything?
[10:57] <mnk> where r the compiled kernel modles?
[10:57] <jrib> alex__: what directory are you copying to?
[10:57] <uein> hi
[10:57] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, what did you need help with?
[10:57] <alex__> the hdb1
[10:58] <uein> http://basshunter.m0o.eu/anna/index_en.php
[10:58] <mnk> all u guys r too busy for me :(
[10:58] <alex__> second hdd
[10:58] <nmnnm> I've got vmlinuz initrd.gz and filesystem.squashfs in C:\boot. Anyone know what I should put in my grub menu.lst to start the installer?
[10:58] <jrib> alex__: /media/hdb1 then?
[10:58] <uein> people checkout that website
[10:58] <uein> lol
[10:58] <eyequeue> mnk, no, sorry, i just know i know nothing about ntfs issues
[10:58] <timboteam> Can someone help me? Network manager just has an exclamation point and won't let me click on anything, it won't connect to my wireless network
[10:58] <jrib> alex__: sudo chmod 777 /media/hdb1              will change the permissions to let anyone do anything
[10:58] <SeanTater> mnk: what's wrong?
[10:58] <P0ldy> mnk, are you trying to install via APT/synaptic?
[10:59] <mnk> SeanTater: what does this mean and how to fix it?? : Can't find compiled modules for kernel. Please, compile your kernel and run this program again.
[10:59] <mnk> SeanTater, P0ldy: i am trying to compile ntfs for linux by paragon
[10:59] <linux1> anyone here use treentflus if so what do i do to install it after ive install php4.mysql
[10:59] <MystaMax> Is my only choice Totem, to play DVDs???
[10:59] <linux1> oopss torrentflux
[11:00] <jrib> MystaMax: no, xine, gxine, vlc, mplayer, ogle to name a few should play them
[11:00] <judah> MystaMax: mplayer, vlc, ogle
[11:00] <SeanTater> mnk: why is ntfs needed, it comes with ubuntu by default, AFAIK
[11:00] <judah> xine
[11:00] <TLE> Does anybody know how to change the system font size in E16 ?
[11:00] <MystaMax> jrib, judah thanks. Which one allows me to use the menus of a DVD?
[11:00] <mnk> SeanTater: cos i need to write to it - but the one that ubuntu supports is read only and the write is unstable - so i got the one by paragon
[11:00] <P0ldy> mnk, why?  There are free programs to do that that you can get without compiling
[11:00] <jrib> MystaMax: xine and ogle should, not sure about vlc
[11:00] <judah> MystaMax: ogle and mplayer can do menus
[11:00] <timboteam> Can SOMEONE please respond to me? Network manager is pretty much an icon with an exclamation point sign and nothing else, I can't work with it at all to find my network
[11:00] <mnk> P0ldy: yeah but i heard they r all unstable
[11:00] <judah> and xine
[11:01] <cypher> is any one using wireless on intel pro wireless 2200 here ?
[11:01] <beerfan> Can anyone point me to an accurate WPA howto for dapper?
[11:01] <judah> hrm does mplayer do menus.. maybe not.
[11:01] <judah> but you can select chapters to play.
[11:01] <P0ldy> mnk, I wouldn't trust a product just because someone is selling it.  I've heard they're not *that* unstable.  Let me find you the howto...
[11:01] <jasonm> i just installed ubuntu yesterday, i have a second SATA drive thats still ntsf formatted.... so when i right-click and try to mount it im guessing thats why it wont work... can anyone tell me how to format and mount this drive. thanks
[11:01] <MystaMax> jrib, judah thanks again guys.
[11:01] <infinity__> how do i install altgcc?
[11:01] <SeanTater> ubotu tell beerfan about wpa
[11:01] <alex__> but other user can't save there something
[11:01] <Rebecca354> eyequeue: I'm trying to make a link to the kernel source from the modules directory, not sure how to do that
[11:01] <judah> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[11:01] <mnk> P0ldy: i did try it and i couldn't delete files that were created by windows!!!!! it kept saying file not found
[11:02] <jrib> alex__: I am not sure what you mean
[11:02] <Simo1> anyone who can help me with an 6.06 desktop install problem?
[11:02] <mog_> jrib: i edited my sources.list file to have no comments on the first 2 sets of sources (deb and deb-src for both main and updates), but i still can't apt-get right
[11:02] <SeanTater> cypher: tried /msg ubotu wifi
[11:02] <caHEk> hi
[11:02] <Timor^> how do i build my modified kernel, its says "fakeroot:command not found"
[11:02] <jrib> mog_: sudo apt-get update  <-- do that after editing sources.list
[11:02] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, something akin to sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux /the/modules/directory
[11:02] <judah> cypher: what's up? it works no seconds thoughts for me.
[11:02] <mog_> jrib: oh. yeah. thx
[11:02] <judah> cypher: great card actually.
[11:02] <P0ldy> mnk, honestly, ANY ntfs writing on Linux is going to be risky because MS hasn't released the spec.  You take a chance either way.
[11:03] <caHEk> how to install mp3 support in the Ubuntu
[11:03] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, where is your modules directory located?
[11:03] <judah> ad-hoc, master, managed all supported.
[11:03] <jasonm> how do i format and mount a second drive which is ntsf,
[11:03] <SeanTater> judah: talk to cypher, exactly the same problem, you might be able to help each other (exact same model actually)
[11:03] <P0ldy> mnk, read through this thread : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[11:03] <cwillu_> so, I add a user to a group;  any way to make that take effect without logging out that user?
[11:03] <cypher> judah, its not working for me
[11:03] <mnk> P0ldy: yeah but that didn't work for me - whereas the bootable disk that paragon gave as a trial did work
[11:03] <caHEk> how to install mp3 support in the Ubuntu
[11:03] <cwillu_> !mp3
[11:03] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:03] <alex__> to save on hdb1 files. only root can change something. i can't make there a dir
[11:03] <judah> cypher: do you have the kernel modules loaded for it?
[11:03] <judah> ipw2200 ?
[11:03] <eyequeue> ubotu, tell caHEk about restrictedformats
[11:03] <cypher> let me chek
[11:04] <alex__> how to set the permission 4 hdb1
[11:04] <mnk> P0ldy: yeah that's the howto i tried
[11:04] <jrib> alex__: did you do this: sudo chmod 777 /media/hdb1
[11:04] <caHEk> how to install mp3 support in the Ubuntu?
[11:04] <mnk> P0ldy: btw thanks for ur help - i appreciate it
[11:04] <caHEk> help
[11:04] <mindspit> does anyone know if this camera is supported in linux ? http://www.globalpremier.com/qcam560m.html
[11:04] <alex__> yes
[11:04] <bowbowbow> hey guys, i unearthed an old knoppix cd, i have the desktop iso for UBUNTU, but i was wondering if there was any way i can install ubuntu from knoppix WITHOUT doing a NETINSTALL
[11:04] <skaller> anyone know how to make Dapper firefox load extensions?
[11:04] <cypher> judah, yes lsmod shows it
[11:04] <jrib> caHEk: see what ubotu just said above
[11:04] <Rebecca354> eyequeue: I'm not sure where my modules directory is
[11:04] <SeanTater> ubotu tell caHEk about mp3
[11:04] <eyequeue> caHEk, did the bot msg you?
[11:04] <pom> void^: yes, that works
[11:04] <jrib> alex__: what does this say: ls -ld /media/hdb1
[11:04] <mnk> P0ldy:  the thing is when i did that howto, it mounted ok, but the blasted thing wouldn't delete any files previously created by windows - it keps saying no such file or dir
[11:04] <caHEk> yes
[11:04] <judah> does iwconfig show anyinformation about eth1
[11:04] <judah> ?
[11:04] <BSG75> anyone have any link for howto get ipod to work under ubuntu?
[11:04] <SeanTater> caHEk: Look At What Ubotu Saud
[11:05] <SeanTater> caHEk: *said
[11:05] <Timor^> how do i build my modified kernel, its says "fakeroot:command not found"
[11:05] <judah> BSG75: check out banshee
[11:05] <alex__> ls -ld /media/hdb1
[11:05] <bowbowbow> if so how do you do an hd install of ubuntu from knoppix?
[11:05] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, are you using module assistant, it's much easier
[11:05] <qt4x11> how long does apt-get dist-upgrade take on a fast ethernet connection?
[11:05] <BSG75> judah: thank u
[11:05] <alex__> drwxrwxrwx  3 root root 4096 2006-06-22 23:00 /media/hdb1
[11:05] <alex__> alex@yoman:~$
[11:05] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, are you using module-assistant, it's much easier
[11:05] <infinity__> did neone here get bluetooth working?
[11:05] <Rebecca354> eyequeue, no I am not
[11:05] <EvilGuru> I am having a problem installing realplayer: when I try to I get an error telling me that: Depends: xlibs  but it is not installable
[11:05] <SeanTater> judah: there;s a better chance of response if you ask him with his nick prepended
[11:06] <judah> cypher: any information from `iwconfig`
[11:06] <P0ldy> mnk, well, I'd post your problems there if you haven't.  There aren't many on Linux who will use paid software for ntfs and thus not many who can help you.  The short of it is that your issue is a dependency problem, and since you're compiling the paragon program doesn't come with the right dependencies (nor would you really want to install them -- it looks like it's requiring an older kernel version than you probably have)
[11:06] <judah> SeanTater: yeah.. i know. ;)
[11:06] <nmnnm> I've got vmlinuz initrd.gz and filesystem.squashfs in C:\boot. Anyone know what I should put in my grub menu.lst to start the installer?
[11:06] <P0ldy> sry about long read
[11:06] <judah> fast fingers.
[11:06] <Juhaz> timboteam, clearly nobody knows about your problem, jumping up and down likely won't change that
[11:06] <cypher> judah, should i paste somewhere
[11:06] <judah> you can msg me if you want.
[11:06] <jrib> alex__: try this: mkdir /media/hdb1/it_works && echo "if you see this, it works"
[11:06] <SeanTater> ubotu tell cypher about pastebin
[11:06] <timboteam> No one knows anything about network manager?
[11:06] <Timor^> SeanTater: can you help me with compiling my kernel
[11:06] <judah> noone knows anything.
[11:07] <Simo1> anyone who can help me with an install problem?
[11:07] <judah> ;)
[11:07] <skaller> hmm .. firefox broken, keyboard shortcuts broken, ia32 libs won't install
[11:07] <SeanTater> Timor^: odd to have someone ask personally, but no, probably not -- I don;t know how
[11:07] <Como|Lappy> hallo
[11:07] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, sudo apt-get install module-assistant, then sudo module-assistant, it's fairly self-explanatory, imo
[11:07] <SeanTater> Simo1: what's wrong?
[11:07] <jrib> ubotu: tell EvilGuru about realplayer
[11:07] <alex__> drwxrwxrwx  3 root root 4096 2006-06-22 23:00 /media/hdb1
[11:07] <alex__> alex@yoman:~$
[11:07] <alex__> alex@yoman:~$ mkdir /media/hdb1/it_works && echo "if you see this, it works
[11:07] <alex__> > hallo
[11:07] <alex__> >
[11:07] <Como|Lappy> Ok, sound, video, hotkeys, AC/DC, wireless... it all works off the disk
[11:07] <judah> cypher: let me know when you get it available.
[11:07] <alex__> >
[11:07] <alex__> >
[11:07] <Rebecca354> eyequeue, I'll give it a shot thanks
[11:08] <finalbeta_> k, I needed DVD encrypted playback, wiki told me to install totem-xine, but that forced me to remove the normal totem. Now I can't play divx and mp3,wma etc. How do I get support for those back into totem-xine?
[11:08] <SeanTater> ubotu tell timboteam about networkmanager
[11:08] <Como|Lappy> this is the most happy livedisk ever
[11:08] <cwillu_> how do I make a user group change take effect without logging out?
[11:08] <Timor^> thought you were the one to ask, by the looks of it you are one of the helpers
[11:08] <SeanTater> ubotu tell alex__ about paste
[11:08] <jrib> alex__: please don't pwaste here and you forgot the " at the end
[11:08] <SeanTater> ubotu tell alex__ about flood
[11:08] <Como|Lappy> Does standby work?
[11:08] <eyequeue> Rebecca354, best of luck, and ask back if that doesn't get you set
[11:08] <Maggotin> Hello!
[11:08] <cypher> judah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16288
[11:08] <timboteam> SeanTater: Thanks, but I already have tried their problem solving on there, and I got it to work last night. It just isn't working now
[11:08] <Maggotin> I just started using ubuntu, and I have a question, how can I know the password of root user?
[11:08] <Rebecca354> eyequeue, ok will do
[11:08] <mnk> ok thanks P0ldy
[11:08] <fiyawerx> hi guys, is anyone using freenx?
[11:09] <judah> cypher: looking
[11:09] <jrib> ubotu: tell Maggotin about root
[11:09] <Simo1> SeanTater> im trying to install the desktop version, but around 30% in the install it suddenly stops, and doesnt give me anything. Just the normal desktop.
[11:09] <SeanTater> timboteam:  sorry, just trying to answer the more simple problems
[11:09] <theBeno-away> Why apt-get over emerge?
[11:09] <ardchoille> Back in a bit
[11:09] <jrib> theBeno-away: because ubuntu is debian based
[11:09] <timboteam> Don't be sorry, I appreciate that you attempted to help me
[11:09] <timboteam> Thankyou
[11:09] <judah> cypher: that looks like your card is working just fine..
[11:09] <Larsson-Sweden> I'm trying out ESD so my apps can play sound at the same time. I do however, experience that OSS sounds a lot better then ESD. The sound quality seems better that is. Can i somehow tweak ESD and do some settings to get better sound?
[11:09] <alex__> but i can't make a dir with the browser
[11:09] <xenex> my sound is going super fast? like the songs are playing and they sound like chipmunks. how do i fix this?
[11:09] <judah> cypher: what's the issue?
[11:09] <theBeno-away> jrib, I know, why do you prefer it?
[11:09] <Maggotin> jrib but if it asks me to log in root, I just do the comand with sudo?
[11:09] <SeanTater> Simo1: does the installer just vaporize?
[11:09] <judah> cypher: the device is eth0 for you..
[11:09] <jrib> Maggotin: basically, yes
[11:10] <cypher> judah, yes but i am unable to browse
[11:10] <judah> cypher: you're associated to ESSID:"WA1003A"
[11:10] <Maggotin> Thanks you jrib
[11:10] <SeanTater> Simo1: did it ask you a bunch of questions, like what username you want
[11:10] <theBeno-away> jrib, I'll always had nothing but problems with apt-get.
[11:10] <jrib> theBeno-away: I've never tried gentoo
[11:10] <Simo1> SeanTater yeah
[11:10] <judah> cypher: browse what?
[11:10] <skaller> Maggotin> root doesn't have one
[11:10] <SeanTater> Simo1: yes to which question
[11:10] <eyequeue> cwillu_, droups are sourced at login, so you could run "bash -l" I guess
[11:10] <cypher> judah, i mean connect to internet.. ping the router etc
[11:10] <jrib> alex__: did it work on the command line?
[11:10] <Maggotin> skaller what do you mean?
[11:10] <alex__> yes
[11:10] <Simo1> SeanTater it just dissapear, and yes i have given username, password and that stuff
[11:10] <judah> cypher: ifconfig eth0  ? do you have an ipaddress?
[11:10] <jrib> alex__: try closing nautilus and opening it again (I don't know why)
[11:10] <ebaad> hi I want to upg to Dapper from Breezey
[11:11] <P0ldy> theBeno-away, there are some advantages to emerge, like on-the-spot USE flags, and emerge -p.  But apt is just so fast (no compiling, obviously).
[11:11] <jrib> ubotu: tell ebaad about upgrade
[11:11] <paryl> dmesg shows that the internal usb hub in my laptop was detected, and it shows me how many ports i have and all, but plugging a usb device (mouse, etc) in does nothing.
[11:11] <ebaad> but having a wiered error
[11:11] <skaller> Maggotin> what i said, there's no password, its a hack. U can fix this as i did by "sudo passwd root"
[11:11] <judah> cypher: did you configure eth0 for static ip or dhcp or anything that would bring up the network?
[11:11] <Maggotin> Aw, I closed it :S
[11:11] <cwillu_> eyequeue; nope :/
[11:11] <judah> cypher: because you are associated to a wireless network.
[11:11] <SeanTater> Simo1: there's two things to do: make a bug report, and fix the problem,
[11:11] <theBeno> P0ldy, What distros have you tried?
[11:11] <ebaad> that says that invalid package info
[11:11] <cypher> judah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16289
[11:12] <KenSentMe> !tell ebaad about upgrade
[11:12] <jrib> Maggotin: I'd recommend reading the wiki page for the pros and cons of enabling the root password, you don't need to do so on ubuntu
[11:12] <SeanTater> Simo1: for the first, ubotu should tell you
[11:12] <eyequeue> ebaad, sudo update-manager
[11:12] <cypher> judah, static ip
[11:12] <alex__> i have ubuntu only 1 week its nice but i don't know the code to do there something & the man's are difficult to understand 4 me
[11:12] <eyequeue> ebaad, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[11:12] <P0ldy> theBeno, Gentoo, SUSE, Mepis, Ubuntu, Mandriva (when it was Mandrake), Debian, Fedora...
[11:12] <SeanTater> ubotu tell Simo1 about launchpad
[11:12] <gregasche> whats the link to repairing grub once windows wrote over it?
[11:12] <ebaad> yes i used the update-manager
[11:12] <cwillu_> eyequeue; sudo -u <user> -s seems to work though;  I guess there's no way to update the session then?
[11:12] <Seq> does anybody know how to set the spindown time on a sata hard disk?
[11:12] <SeanTater> Simo1:  and for the second, you can use the alternate installer
[11:12] <judah> cypher: did you give your networking a default gateway setting?
[11:12] <Maggotin> jrib: Thank you, I'll do that :)
[11:12] <ebaad> but it stops after the message above
[11:12] <Simo1> seantater how do i get to that?
[11:12] <P0ldy> theBeno, I also tried FreeBSD for a halfsecond, but found the installation to be much more difficult than Gentoo, which isn't really hard
[11:12] <judah> cypher: i would assume it might be like 192.168.1.1
[11:12] <ebaad> and ask me to open a bug report
[11:13] <finalbeta_> k, I needed DVD encrypted playback, wiki told me to install totem-xine, but that forced me to remove the normal totem. Now I can't play divx and mp3,wma etc. How do I get support for those back into totem-xine?
[11:13] <jrib> ebaad: try to keep your question on one line because it's pretty hard to follow otherwise
[11:13] <Como|Lappy> oh poo
[11:13] <theBeno> P0ldy, yeah, I've tried all those and more.  What was your reasoning behind staying with ubuntu?
[11:13] <judah> cypher: and something to resolv dns... check /etc/resolv.conf for a valid nameserver
[11:13] <Como|Lappy> the sound hotkeys arent affecting my sound
[11:13] <theBeno> P0ldy, FreeBSD is beautiful, and great on servers.
[11:13] <cwillu_> what's execute in the numeric sense?
[11:13] <theBeno> ;)
[11:13] <judah> cypher: basically your problem is your network configuration.. not your wireless cared.
[11:13] <doctormo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:13] <doctormo>  libxml-libxml-perl
[11:13] <doctormo>  libxml-simple-perl
[11:13] <doctormo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:13] <ebaad> so I did and the bug number is 50710
[11:13] <doctormo> what could cause this error?
[11:13] <eyequeue> cwillu_, not the whole session, that would just get you the new group in the one shell
[11:13] <SeanTater> Simo1: sorry -- memory leek, I;ll be back in a sec
[11:14] <Simo1> SeanTater ok
[11:14] <ebaad> hi jrib
[11:14] <cypher> judah, i have made eth0 down so that i can connect thru eth1
[11:14] <ebaad> sorry about that
[11:14] <tim_> hello. does anybody have a link to download a live version of ubuntu? maybe i'm stupid but I could not locate it on www.ubuntu.com thanks
[11:14] <nickrud> finalbeta_, the wiki also has the rest of the info, like installing libxine-extracodecs & w32codecs
[11:14] <Larsson-Sweden> I'm trying out ESD so my apps can play sound at the same time. I do however, experience that OSS sounds a lot better then ESD. The sound quality seems better that is. Can i somehow tweak ESD and do some settings to get better sound?
[11:14] <cypher> judah, let me bring up eth0 and give u the routing table
[11:14] <xenex> how do i restart my sound card? it is messed up
[11:14] <judah> cypher: but by your first pastebin your wireless device is eth0
[11:14] <SeanTater> Simo1: okay, back
[11:14] <fiyawerx_> is anyone familiar with nxclient?
[11:14] <jrib> ebaad: np, I just don't really know what problem you are having because I couldn't follow it (and most people here probably didn't catch it either) :)
[11:15] <judah> cypher: ok
[11:15] <SeanTater> Simo1: I;m going to need to file a report on that memory leak too, it's happened twice
[11:15] <eyequeue> tim_, http://releases.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <P0ldy> theBeno, mainly because it's so little fuss.  Debian-based distros get your video card drivers working without hassle (I have nvidia...), whereas SUSE gave me nightmares as my first linux dive.  Great community like Gentoo, no compilation time for minor improvements in speed.  It's actually faster than Windows was for me (including Firefox).  Apt is as fast as emerge when looking things up, as opposed to yum
[11:15] <SeanTater> Simo1: so, together, let's go to http://launchpad.net
[11:15] <JanHammer> rawr
[11:15] <jrib> fiyawerx_: it's usually best to just state your problem, because I've used it but I have no idea if I can help you
[11:15] <finalbeta_> nickrud: I installed all the needed packages, everything played on totem. But then I wanted to play a DVD, wiki tells me to install totem-xine, but that deinstals totem. Now I can play DVD's in totem-xine, but not the other formats.
[11:15] <Simo1> SeanTater ok :)
[11:15] <MattS423> hey, my scroll wheel wont work
[11:16] <finalbeta_> nickrud: and I still have the needed libs installed like w32codecs
[11:16] <blakkino> hello; how to report a bug for an ubuntu package?
[11:16] <tim_> eyequeue: thanks!
[11:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell MattS423 about mouse
[11:16] <jrib> !bug
[11:16] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <eyequeue> tim_, np, and welcome to ubuntu :)
[11:16] <nickrud> finalbeta_, that's odd, mine's working fine for the other formats ...
[11:16] <JanHammer> Anyway, anyone mind helping me with a problem that my resolution and refresh rate is limited severly? I already specified some things in xorg.conf
[11:16] <ebaad> The error is "Invalid Pakcakge Information" and the description is "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base'
[11:16] <ebaad> can not be found anymore.
[11:16] <ebaad> This indicates a serious error, please report this as a bug.
[11:16] <ebaad> " thsi happens when i try to upg the breezey to dapper from the upate-manger.
[11:16] <KenSentMe> !paste
[11:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:16] <doctormo> finalbeta_: all the other formats work with the same plugins
[11:16] <SeanTater> Simo1: oops -- nope, let's go to the above posted link, bugs.ubuntu.org
[11:16] <blakkino> i have no time to register..
[11:17] <SeanTater> Simo1: oops -- nope, let's go to the above posted link, bugs.ubuntu.com <-- that one, the .com
[11:17] <nox-Hand> Oops
[11:17] <JanHammer> anyone mind helping me?
[11:17] <cypher> judah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16292
[11:17] <Simo1> SeanTater allright
[11:17] <jrib> ebaad: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give us a link please?
[11:17] <Dragoonz> my god i just want to pull my hair out
[11:18] <Larsson-Sweden> Since when can ALSA play sound from two different sources?
[11:18] <judah> cypher: isn't your wireless network giving out dhcp?
[11:18] <doctormo> Damn it I can't install _anything_ on my computer because of this stupid perl xml issue!
[11:18] <JanHammer> is there an easy way to get attention for a problem here? :P
[11:18] <blakkino> SeanTater, http://rafb.net/paste/results/u5d5hM97.html
[11:18] <P0ldy> JanHammer, say you're a girl ;P
[11:18] <tim_> does anybody have any ideas on how I can bring my CPU temp down? since installing 6.06 it idles at 60
[11:18] <Dragoonz> anyone know of great directions on joining and authenicating to an AD ?
[11:18] <JanHammer> haha
[11:18] <blakkino> SeanTater, if you can post it on the glibc package.. i have absolutely to work now :\
[11:18] <JanHammer> * Nerds run
[11:18] <ebaad> sure I have pasted it already with the bug report and the bug # is 50710 link is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50710/+index
[11:18] <judah> *everything stops*
[11:18] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: put your xorg.conf in a pastebin
[11:19] <blakkino> i would consider it a rather critical bug
[11:19] <SeanTater> Simo1: okay, now (look for a similar instance and commment on it , or make a new one ) And for fixing it , the ansqwer is to try the alternate cd (that's exactly what's it's for)
[11:19] <eyequeue> lol it worked
[11:20] <cypher> judah, no i did not configure it like that
[11:20] <cypher> judah, i am using static ip
[11:20] <judah> cypher: did you turn on wep, wap or anything?
[11:20] <jrib> ebaad: it says I don't have permission to access that for some reason
[11:20] <cypher> judah, wep yes
[11:20] <moomoo22> is there a utility i can get to convert .ogg files to mp3?
[11:20] <judah> cypher: i would start simple and work up to complex..
[11:20] <pppoe_dude> moomoo22, mplayer'
[11:21] <cypher> judah, ok
[11:21] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, http://pastebin.com/726237
[11:21] <judah> cypher: reconfigure ap to be just plain old AP giving dhcp leases..
[11:21] <Simo1> SeanTater hmm, ok. I have downloaded the server cd and desktop only atm, and i cant download an iso and burn it with the live desktop or what?
[11:21] <judah> cypher: prove that it works.
[11:21] <judah> cypher: you probably have somethign going on with your client wep configuration.
[11:21] <blakkino> can someone please submit that bugs http://rafb.net/paste/results/u5d5hM97.html to the glibc package? :)
[11:21] <cypher> judah, sorry i dont have admin privilege to ap right now
[11:21] <ebaad> I have pasted it on this link also http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16293
[11:22] <moomoo22> pppoe_dude where do i do that at?
[11:22] <SeanTater> Simo1: you can;t download with a live cd unless you have more than one GB of space
[11:22] <judah> vpn... ssh tunnels.. and the like.
[11:22] <blakkino> in general i hate to register somewhere just to use a free service (like bug-reporting)
[11:22] <judah> ssh tunnels++
[11:22] <SeanTater> Simo1: in your RAM that is
[11:22] <cypher> judah, can i try anything else
[11:22] <pppoe_dude> moomoo22, mplayer can encode from many codecs to many codecs, read about 'mencoder'
[11:22] <judah> cypher: then check to make sure your wep stuff is configured properly on your laptop.
[11:23] <Simo1> SeanTater i have 1gb ram
[11:23] <SeanTater> Simo1: however, a usb stick or anywhere you might be able to put a file on your HD will do fine
[11:23] <judah> cypher: or whatever has the wireless device that is.
[11:23] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: one moment, pastebin is really slow atm
[11:23] <SeanTater> Simo1: that's stretching it
[11:23] <JanHammer> heh, yeah, I noticed
[11:23] <JanHammer> they're always slow it seems
[11:23] <ebaad> on the earlier link I have edited the security and visibility so it should be available to everybody
[11:23] <jrib> anyone have a link handy for the example sources.list for dapper with all the repos?
[11:23] <Rebecca354> how do I determine my current kernel?
[11:23] <tritium> Rebecca354: uname -r
[11:24] <Rebecca354> thanks
[11:24] <judah> cypher: ie.. your wireless device seems to be working correctly.. it's your configuration that has issue right now.. and i point a finger at WEP.
[11:24] <eyequeue> blakkino, perhaps view it as "joining" the ubuntu community?
[11:24] <zOap> Have anyone had problems with ndis and linksys MIMO?
[11:24] <jrib> ebaad: it seems like the repos didn't get changed to dapper, let me pastebin one for you
[11:24] <Madeye> Opera9 rocks!
[11:24] <judah> cypher: either that or 192.168.1.1 isn't your gateway and doesn't exists.
[11:24] <nickrud> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[11:24] <Huh1> Madeye: true
[11:24] <Huh1> opera rocks anyways
[11:25] <Huh1> but 9 is especially nice
[11:25] <blakkino> eyequeue, why i must give you my email address to joining? if you can please submit the bugreports.. i have nothing else to do into the community
[11:25] <eigenlambda> how to lock down my gnome-panel?
[11:25] <eigenlambda> my 2yo little bro fucked it up
[11:25] <jrib> nickrud: oh right the evil one, thanks
[11:25] <blakkino> mm bad spelling
[11:25] <Simo1> SeanTater 15 minutes away then, is there a iso burner installed or do i need to get it?
[11:25] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: and you can't change your resolution?
[11:25] <ebaad> thanks much, that would be really nice, I will change my sources.list to what you send and try to run again
[11:25] <blakkino> eyequeue, why i must give you my email address to join? if you can please submit the bugreport.. i have nothing else to do into the community :) <- fixed
[11:25] <tritium> eigenlambda: watch your language please
[11:25] <jrib> ebaad: replace your current sources.list with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 and do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:25] <JanHammer> ken, it limits to 800x600 and lower
[11:25] <JanHammer> and limits the refresh rate to that
[11:26] <JanHammer> 85
[11:26] <Madeye> Huh1, I love it, it's so smooth and fast , I pray to have an FS browser like it
[11:26] <maccam94> is it a good idea to run easyubuntu on 6.06?
[11:26] <eyequeue> blakkino, bug reports often require additional information from the submitter, and email is how the requeswt is made
[11:26] <NoUse> maccam94 sure, its supported on dapper
[11:26] <cypher> judah, 192.168.1.1 is the GW
[11:26] <jrib> maccam94: sure
[11:26] <spikeb> maccam94: sure, it supports dapper
[11:26] <cypher> judah, i am checking my wep again.. hold on
[11:26] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, any idea? :P
[11:26] <ebaad> no prblm, i am doing it and will report back to you. thanks for all the help.
[11:26] <maccam94> k, are there any parts that i should disable in the easyubuntu installer?
[11:26] <SeanTater> Simo1: it;s not possible to install it on a live cd, but k3b is available on KDE and AFAIK, gnomebaker on gnome
[11:27] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: i've compared it to my xorg.conf, but don't see anything strange
[11:27] <tritium> blakkino: the bug fixer may have additional questions for you, or may ask you to try something to fix it, and would need to be able to contact you
[11:27] <blakkino> eyequeue, i have no other informations nor time to fix it
[11:27] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, so you don't know? -_-
[11:27] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: nope, sorry
[11:27] <jrib> ebaad: you will update to dapper using the cli that way instead of update-manager
[11:28] <tim_> does anybody have any ideas on how I can bring my CPU temp down? since installing 6.06 it idles at 60
[11:28] <NoUse> maccam94 no
[11:28] <Spy> Hey does any1 know anything about power supplies???
[11:28] <maccam94> NoUse: k thanks
[11:28] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, know anyone who might? ^_^
[11:28] <maccam94> Spy: anything in particular?
[11:28] <SeanTater> where might a find a log from arts? it's had two memory leaks lately
[11:28] <farous> tim_: lsmod |grep cpufreq_userspace tell me what that say
[11:28] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: there should be some people in this channel :)
[11:28] <DSL_> q
[11:29] <Spy> yeah, i bought a psu and now it has 24 pins, my motherboard only has 20
[11:29] <cwillu> ubotu tell cwillu about restricted
[11:29] <maccam94> Spy: you need to use an adapter
[11:29] <ompaul> !tell cwillu about msgthebot
[11:29] <maccam94> the new PCIe mobos use 24 pin power connectors, Spy
[11:29] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, it's kind of difficult to go through 847 people D:
[11:29] <Spy> not according to this freak http://compreviews.about.com/od/cases/a/ATX12VvATX.htm
[11:29] <Simo1> SeanTater i dont have any os installed on this system right now
[11:29] <ebaad> i'm ready to run it through the cli, wish me luck hope everything goes good
[11:29] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: i know
[11:29] <maccam94> Spy: but there are usually adapters included with the PSUs
[11:29] <tim_> farous: 4690 0
[11:29] <SeanTater> Simo1: no, but you might have a data partition
[11:30] <jasonm> for do i format a ftsf drive?
[11:30] <jrib> ebaad: make sure you install ubuntu-desktop once it finishes (in case you removed it somehow on breezy)
[11:30] <tim_> farous: sorry 4696 0
[11:30] <ebaad> it seems like its getting packages
[11:30] <jasonm> how do i format a ftsf drive?
[11:30] <farous> tim_: ok sudo powernowd -m 2
[11:30] <higen> hey.. my icon's for usbdisks and other have stoped to show up on the desktop and under "computer" in nautilus... any knownen error.. its probably due to something i have done.. but if there are any quick answer to this. i am ready to listen :P
[11:30] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: was the situation always like this, or was it at first only possible to select only one resolution?
[11:30] <SeanTater> Simo1: look in /media (sorry, don;t know where it would be in Gnome), and see if there's something about hda
[11:30] <bastu> Hello! can i easily upgrade the kernel to 2.6.17 through any update manager(or similar) if i install kubuntu 6.06? The reason im asking is because i have an ibook witch uses the broadcom chipset in the airport extreme. And i want an easy kernel upgrade.
[11:30] <farous> this will make pc slower but temp lower too
[11:30] <Larsson-Sweden> Anyone else experiencing that Skype takes forever to laod?
[11:30] <Larsson-Sweden> *load
[11:30] <maccam94> Spy: ? if your mobo has room, you can just plug the cable in directly, but if there isn't clearance use an adapter
[11:30] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, yeah, I just installed this yesterday
[11:30] <SeanTater> bastu: probably
[11:31] <Spy> it has room but i don't wanna blow up my motherboard?
[11:31] <rixxon> bastu: just apt-get install the kernel package and reboot
[11:31] <Simo1> SeanTater nothing there
[11:31] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: and you have restarted x?
[11:31] <maccam94> Spy: it won't
[11:31] <ebaad> I havent removed the desktop, it is still there, before i started the upgrade
[11:31] <bastu> can you check, if u have ubuntu running
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Can I apt-get netbeans
[11:31] <maccam94> Spy: it's backwards compatibile
[11:31] <NoUse> rixxon the kernel he wants isn't in apt-get
[11:31] <maccam94> *compatible
[11:31] <SeanTater> Simo1: okay -- type in cfdisk in a terminal and tell me what you see
[11:31] <Spy> gd gd, that is what he says but u know any person these days can have a website up and post his/her own ideas..
[11:31] <rixxon> NoUse: oh? ok :)
[11:31] <Spy> thanks
[11:31] <bastu> rixxon whats the exact command?
[11:31] <tim_> farous: i dont think I have cpufreq installed, one sec
[11:31] <maccam94> Spy: np
[11:31] <ebaad> mna its getting a lot of stuff, still busy
[11:32] <bastu> im not to good with the terminal =)
[11:32] <rixxon> bastu: 'sudo apt-get install linux-686' for instance, but see what NoUse says
[11:32] <dredhammer> hello can somepne point me to a place to learn scripting for beginers?
[11:32] <farous> tim_: from what you said it is add it to the pannel to be sure
[11:32] <Spy> maccam94 would you believe that i already started making documents on how i planned to move the cables around as to make it the same as the older 20pin connector
[11:32] <NoUse> bastu the version of the kernel you want isn't in the repos and won't be for dapper
[11:32] <SeanTater> dredhammer: shell script or otherwise
[11:32] <MattSta> can someone help me setting up WINE
[11:32] <farous> got to go sys here is highy undstable
[11:32] <farous> exit
[11:32] <NoUse> bastu search the forums to see if someone has posted a howto for compiling it
[11:32] <dredhammer> shell script getting tired of typing out mencoder commands
[11:32] <SeanTater> ubotu tell MattSta about wine
[11:32] <cypher> arghh
[11:32] <SeanTater> MattSta: does that help
[11:32] <cypher> wep does not seem to have any problem
[11:32] <Spy> Mattsta: what seemto be the problem?
[11:33] <bastu> ok ill try that.. otherwise should i get back here and ask?
[11:33] <dooglus> dredhammer: a shell script is simply a list of shell commands, one after the other
[11:33] <rixxon> is there a way to dump the clipboard with a terminal command line?
[11:33] <dooglus> dredhammer: put the mencoder commands that you're sick of typing into a file, and you've got a script
[11:33] <bastu> NoUse thanks
[11:33] <NoUse> bastu you can't but I'm not sure how many people will have compiled 2.6.17 from scratch here
[11:33] <MattSta> well it is kind of installed, i mean i can see the folder and everything but i cant use it
[11:33] <NoUse> can*
[11:33] <dredhammer> so how would you set that up for asy conversion via mencoder esp with different named files each time?
[11:33] <bastu> ok
[11:33] <dredhammer> like is there a special thing for wildcards?
[11:33] <SeanTater> dredhammer: okay, search "bash reference" (no quotes) in a google search and go for the first result (I've memorized that search for using it so much
[11:34] <dredhammer> or can i use "*"
[11:34] <Spy> have you tried though, find an exe and double click it
[11:34] <Spy> or use the console
[11:34] <dooglus> dredhammer: the first argument you pass is $1, then second is $2, and so on
[11:34] <Spy> mattsta: wine program.exe
[11:34] <tim_> farous: when i run the powernowd command i get: PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
[11:34] <tim_> Please make sure that:
[11:34] <tim_>  - You are running a v2.6.7 kernel or later
[11:34] <tim_>  - That you have sysfs mounted /sys
[11:34] <tim_>  - That you have the core cpufreq and cpufreq-userspace
[11:34] <tim_>    modules loaded into your kernel
[11:34] <SeanTater> dredhammer: [windcards]  where
[11:34] <tim_>  - That you have the cpufreq driver for your cpu loaded,
[11:34] <tim_>    (for example: powernow-k7), and that it works. Check
[11:34] <KenSentMe> !paste
[11:34] <tim_>    'dmesg' for errors.
[11:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:34] <tim_> If all of the above are true, and you still have problems,
[11:34] <tim_> please email the author: clemej@alum.rpi.edu
[11:34] <SeanTater> ubotu tell tim about paste
[11:34] <MattSta> i cant find it
[11:34] <KenSentMe> !tell tim_ about paste
[11:34] <dredhammer> like say its a bunch of files in a directory to convert
[11:34] <tritium> !tell tim_ about enter
[11:35] <tim_> sorry
[11:35] <moomoo22> pppoe_dude is there a different app i can use?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Can I apt-get netbeans?
[11:35] <tritium> DaSkreech: no
[11:35] <DaSkreech> tritium: Cool thanks
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> moomoo22, try audacity if you want, you can probably re-encode in it too
[11:35] <SeanTater> Simo1: still here? is cfdisk working?
[11:35] <blakkino> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BR8Vr968.html <- even a simpler testcase :>
[11:35] <Simo1> SeanTater can i install the 5.10 version and download an upgrade, or do you recommend i get the alternate cd?
[11:36] <dooglus> dredhammer: how would you convert just one file?
[11:36] <SeanTater> Simo1: the 5.10 installer is what the 6.06 alternate installer is now, ther would be no reason to
[11:36] <KenSentMe> DaSkreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[11:37] <he-man> I can't boot ubuntu linux 6.06 because of some sort of error. In the gdm log there is this error: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[11:37] <dredhammer> by typing out the whole long mencoder commands, these are wmv3 files if they were regular i'd just use avidemux
[11:37] <he-man> but I also get that error in kubuntu and it boots normally
[11:37] <SeanTater> Simo1: 5.10 install = 6.06 alternate,  6.06 desktop = new, 5.10 live = no installer
[11:37] <DaSkreech> KenSentMe: Thanks
[11:37] <Simo1> SeanTater ok, so ill just install the 5.10 then?
[11:37] <jasonm> how do i format a ntsf drive thats been mounted
[11:38] <he-man> I tried to reconfigure the xserver and I pasted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf into the ubuntu /etc/X11 directory, and it doesn't boot yet. It gets stuck ( but with the cursor being able to move)
[11:38] <KenSentMe> jasonm: do you the new filesystem also to be ntfs, or ext3?
[11:38] <he-man> just before attemping to load the gdm screen
[11:38] <SeanTater> Simo1: not to my logic, you you just install the 6.06 alternate, because the 5.10 install is exactly the same (except for installing different things), as the 6,06 installer
[11:38] <dooglus> dredhammer: try http://www.pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/bash-tute.html
[11:38] <Spy> maccam94 - it works..
[11:39] <tim_> farous: can you help me with powernowd
[11:39] <SeanTater> Simo1: in english, just use the 6,06 alternate
[11:39] <dredhammer> thanks
[11:39] <dooglus> dredhammer: if you have any problems/questions, feel free to pm me
[11:39] <dooglus> dredhammer: or to ask in here
[11:40] <dredhammer> ok i might take you up on that
[11:40] <jasonm> KenSentMe, i want it to be ext3
[11:40] <Simo1> SeanTater ok, thanks for your help :)
[11:40] <dooglus> dredhammer: note that you have to be registered here if you want to send pm
[11:40] <jasonm> KenSentMe, its a second drive i want it to be a bump for media files
[11:40] <SeanTater> Simo1: sorry I don;t have a more simplistic answer, but you are welcome anyway
[11:40] <bastu> nouse i found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 im guessing it should go perfectly fine with the 2.6.17 kernel too?
[11:40] <dredhammer> oh boy
[11:40] <Linuturk> looking for WPA support, where should I go first?
[11:41] <KenSentMe> jasonm: you can install gparted, delete the partition and then make it ext3
[11:41] <MattSta> how do i make programs thinks im ruinning Windows XP with WINE
[11:41] <tritium> bastu: what are you trying to do?
[11:41] <SeanTater> ubotu tell Linuturk about wpa
[11:41] <KenSentMe> !tell Linuturk about wpa
[11:41] <dooglus> dredhammer: registering here is simple.  just type "/msg nickserv register blahblah", where that last word is a password of your chosing
[11:41] <KenSentMe> SeanTater: damn, too slow
[11:41] <NoUse> bastu yeah probably
[11:41] <tritium> !tell bastu about kernel
[11:41] <blakkino> :)
[11:41] <blakkino> ok submitted myself
[11:42] <bastu> tritium im going to try to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.17 because the broadcom devices are supported by them
[11:42] <Simo1> SeanTater, nevermind that. I am a newbie at this linux stuff hehe
[11:42] <tritium> bastu: if you want to compile a kernel, install kernel-package, and use make-kpkg appropriately to build a .deb of your kernel image and modules
[11:42] <Linuturk> is that dapper wpa?
[11:42] <jasonm> KenSentMe, do you know of any documentation on using gparted, im hours new to linux..
[11:42] <MattSta> i tried to install MSN (nothing beats the real deal) and it says i need Windows XP
[11:42] <SeanTater> Linuturk: perhaps not, tey the next thing ubotu says
[11:42] <tritium> bastu: see the URL that ubotu sent you
[11:42] <SeanTater> ubotu tell Linuturk about networkmanager
[11:42] <dredhammer> ok got it
[11:42] <NoUse> MattSta I don't think MSN even has a change of running in wine
[11:42] <bastu> tritium your speaking i language i dont understand, sorry
[11:42] <dredhammer> and thanks again
[11:42] <bastu> nouse thanks!
[11:43] <KenSentMe> jasonm: i have it installed here, and it's pretty easy, we can help you
[11:43] <MattSta> oo, what about photoshop and 3ds max (those are all i really need)
[11:43] <tritium> bastu: what do you mean, my speaking?
[11:43] <Lokkebiff> MattSta: You know thats programs you usaly PAY for?
[11:44] <bastu> tritium yeah linux-speak! =) i dont understand it , yet, im i noob! =)
[11:44] <freddyubuntu> Hey guys , is any of you fimmilar with TrueCrypt program ?  you know each time I update kernel I have to Re-compile it Just for truecrypt and it takes HOURS for me ... is there any other program in ubuntu which can Read Encrypted files which was made by truecrypt ?
[11:44] <NoUse> MattSta no sure, you can look them up http://appdb.winehq.com
[11:44] <Lokkebiff> MattSta: there is allwasy good substitutes.
[11:44] <MattSta> yes i am aware, i wasn't going to purchase anything until i knew for sure
[11:44] <NoUse> MattSta do you *need* photoshop, I really like the gimp myself
[11:45] <freddyubuntu> Dears please read the Freddyubuntu's question above.
[11:45] <tritium> bastu: oh, you meant you're, not your ;)
[11:46] <gary> can anyone point me to a howto for compiling my own linux kernel for dapper on a ppc?
[11:46] <bastu> tritium something like that
[11:46] <tim_> farous: you there?
[11:46] <tritium> !tell gary about kernel
[11:46] <GTX> Can snort automaticlay block ips? or does it just log
[11:46] <freddyubuntu> is there any alternative for TrueCrypt program ? a program which can read ecnrypted files which was made by truecrypt ?
[11:46] <JanHammer> Anyone happen to be able to help me with a resolution problem? My xorg.conf file has no problems (been told by a linux geek) yet in the resolution settings the refresh rate only allows 85 and the highest allowed res is 1024x768, which is far below my monitor's and video card's limit.
[11:47] <eigenlambda> !tell eigenlambda about kernel
[11:47] <gary> tritium: thanks
[11:47] !lilo:*! Please welcome Marek Spruell of the Ubuntu project (nalioth) to freenode staff. :)
[11:47] <freddyubuntu> :'(
[11:47] <KenSentMe> freddyubuntu: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199367&highlight=truecrypt
[11:47] <tritium> freddyubuntu: never heard of truecrypt
[11:47] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi all. I have a problem with my wireless card. It has been working fine for ages and now I cant get an IP or assign it one. When it tries to get an IP it don't get one and if I set a static one I can't ping anything. Any idea's? Have I enabled something like encryption? Where are wireless settings kept other than /etc/network/interfaces? Cheers.
[11:48] <freddyubuntu> KenSentMe that thraeds says to Re-compile the kernel
[11:48] <freddyubuntu> which takes 5 hours for me
[11:48] <Cueball|Laptop> It's an Orinoco PCMCIA card BTW
[11:48] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: hey, i thought the highest was 800*600
[11:48] <freddyubuntu> there should be another program which can read the encrypted files
[11:48] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, mixed them up :P
[11:48] <freddyubuntu> because I have the passwords
[11:48] <teh-k31th> whats cracking
[11:48] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: what's the highest then?
[11:48] <Polibio> hi
[11:48] <JanHammer> the one I latest said
[11:49] <SeanTater> Polibio: hi
[11:49] <Polibio> is there a way to program an HD check in the next boot?
[11:49] <zzzen> howdy
[11:49] <SeanTater> Polibio: probably
[11:49] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: because if you want higher res, you can just add "1280X1024" to every entry under SubSection "Display"
[11:49] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, the problem is that my monitor doesn't allow that res at 85 :/
[11:49] <SeanTater> Polibio: try reading the manual on tune2fs  (but it can be dangerous!)
[11:49] <bina> does anyone know of a good program in ubuntu that can be used to diagnose HDD problems?  SMART i think the technology is called
[11:50] <JanHammer> it allows at 60
[11:50] <JanHammer> but that IS the res I'd like to have
[11:50] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: now i'm confused, what res and rate do you want?
[11:50] <Polibio> ok, thks SeanTater
[11:50] <tritium> bina: yes, smartmontools
[11:51] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: and is it X or your monitor that keeps you from using it?
[11:51] <JanHammer> the res I want is 1280X1024 and the refresh rate I'd like is 60
[11:51] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, X
[11:51] <JanHammer> my monitor supports that on windows
[11:51] <bina> tritium: sweet thanks
[11:51] <tbouve> evening all
[11:51] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: have you tried adding 1280 to xorg.conf?
[11:51] <tbouve> I just installed dapper and followed the instructions on the "restricted formats" website
[11:52] <SeanTater> Polibio: HOLD ON
[11:52] <tbouve> but I can't get mp3's to play in rhythmbox
[11:52] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, nope, because I'm scared I'll make my monitor explode since it doesn't allow that at 60
[11:52] <JanHammer> er
[11:52] <SeanTater> Polibio: I think I found it
[11:52] <JanHammer> 85*
[11:52] <tbouve> I have the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package installed
[11:52] <Polibio> ok
[11:52] <tbouve> but rhythmbox keeps erroring
[11:52] <jasonm> KenSentMe, i installed gparted, im confused about how i run it
[11:53] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: so your monitor keeps you from using 1280 at 85
[11:53] <SeanTater> Polibio: what are you using for reading man pages?
[11:53] <Polibio> man :)
[11:53] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, yeah, and the problem is that ubuntu doesn't have 60 listed on the menu :/
[11:53] <KenSentMe> jasonm: go to system-->administration-->gparted (or something like that
[11:53] <SeanTater> Polibio: okay, then read man e2fsck
[11:53] <Polibio> ok, thanks :)
[11:53] <SeanTater> Polibio: it does what you want
[11:53] <JanHammer> it just has 85 as the only option.. which is odd
[11:53] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: ah, so you want to set the minimum and not the maximum
[11:53] <tbouve> anyone who happens to have a clue what should be installed?
[11:54] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, haha, yeah
[11:54] <zzzen> tbouve: I also have a "6.06 upgrade went bad and sound died" problem.
[11:54] <tbouve> suffice to say I've got all gstreamer0.10* installed
[11:54] <JanHammer> and ubuntu is being a jerk
[11:54] <tbouve> sound is fine here
[11:54] <tbouve> I can play the ogg streams that come by default in rhythmbox
[11:54] <jasonm> KenSentMe, i typed gparted in the terminal... and it says i need to be root
[11:55] <tbouve> it's mp3 files I can't get to play (even with those 'ugly' plugins)
[11:55] <zzzen> anyway, it's almost sorted out, and all of it is described here: http://dod.goleshet.com/sndbug
[11:55] <jasonm> KenSentMe, does that mean i need to be su?
[11:55] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: have you tried setting the VertRefresh to 50-60?
[11:55] <ebaad> any major issues ince the breezey is upg to dapper, just wanted to ask
[11:55] <KenSentMe> jasonm: type sudo gparted
[11:55] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, huh? O_o
[11:55] <ebaad> my upg is still going
[11:55] <GTX> Can snort automaticlay block ips? or does it just log
[11:56] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: in your xorg.conf under Section "Monitor"
[11:56] <SeanTater> Polibio: in case you have not already noticed, e2fsck -n sounds like what you want
[11:56] <h6w> Hello, my Ubuntu seems to have trouble with "FTP with login".  It claims that it "Couldn't find ftp://me@myserver.com/stuff"  where me is my login, myserver.com is my server and stuff is a directory in my login directory.  It works fine with SFTP with login.   Where should I look for the log for this error?
[11:56] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, is that safe? I've always been a bit scared of editing that since some monitors don't have a good safety about that
[11:57] <zzzen> ebaad. don't know. my upg "officially" died in the middle, and since then I've been recklessly kicking my system back to almost normal
[11:57] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: well, now the refreshrate is maxed at 150, when you lower it to 60, that's shouldn't make your monitor go boom
[11:57] <KenSentMe> *that
[11:58] <JanHammer> KenSentMe, ok, so you want me to do that? anything else?
[11:58] <Polibio> SeanTater, ok, I will study it, thanks
[11:58] <ebaad> mine is almost 75% done so lets see what happens, thanks for the heads up though
[11:58] <kkman> hi
[11:58] <kkman> justupgraded to 6.06 and .... not more wifi for me
[11:58] <kkman> i'm lost!!!
[11:58] <kkman> i wasted 3 hours already
[11:58] <KenSentMe> JanHammer: nope, just that, and the restart X, by doing ctrl+alt+Backspace
[11:59] <zzzen> join the 6.06 upg refugee camp ;)
[11:59] <JanHammer> ok.
[11:59] <ebaad> ooooh that was bad ZZZZEN
[11:59] <ebaad> it will discourage everybody from upgrading
[11:59] <Zambezi> FTP-client with Implicit SSL? Textmode. Which is the best?
[12:00] <ebaad> it might have worked for some peolpe.
[12:00] <kkman> so anyone up to the "help the stupid newbie" thing?
[12:00] <zzzen> sorry bout that. just been kicking my machine for 4 days now