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| MidMark | Riddell and sebas: reopen bug #39444 definitely not fixed well | 12:49 |
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| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39444 in kde-guidance "Changing an user's password can change another password for a different user" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39444 | 12:49 |
| MidMark | see last two comments, they are two different cases | 12:50 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 03:26 |
| jjesse | morning Hobbsee :) | 03:27 |
| jjesse | its evening for me | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | hi jjesse :) how are you doing? | 03:27 |
| jjesse | Hobbsee: doing well, missing most of the confrence stuff due to work | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | ah, darn! | 03:28 |
| jjesse | yeah :( | 03:28 |
| jjesse | how are things going there? | 03:28 |
| jjesse | wait you aren't there are u | 03:28 |
| crimsun | I doubt she'd be online right now if she were. | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | no, i'm not | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | hehe true | 03:29 |
| jjesse | grin forgot | 03:29 |
| === Hobbsee has exams | ||
| Hobbsee | jjesse: you're not the first person to forget - i had someone telling me that they were jealous of me, cos i was in paris | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | so i had to say...um...well...i'm not, actually... | 03:29 |
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| linuxmonkey | Hobbsee: can always come to visit me in canada for a vacation | 03:30 |
| linuxmonkey | :) | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:30 |
| === Hobbsee has no passport, but sure, send me a plane ticket :P | ||
| freeflying|away | morning all | 03:31 |
| linuxmonkey | no need for a passport if your in the US | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: one of the paris guys *is* awake | 03:31 |
| === Hobbsee isnt in the US. | ||
| linuxmonkey | https://launchpad.net/people/linuxmonkey <--now laught at my hackergotchi | 03:31 |
| linuxmonkey | Hobbsee: were are you at? | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | linuxmonkey: sydney australia | 03:32 |
| linuxmonkey | kool koala :) | 03:32 |
| === Lathiat laughs | ||
| crimsun | Hobbsee: sure, I'm saying I doubt /you/ would be awake. | 03:32 |
| === Hobbsee is a night person. | ||
| Hobbsee | but yeah, it migth be getting a little late by now... | 03:33 |
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| Hobbsee | depends what was happening, too | 03:33 |
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| === linuxmonkey runs away since nixternal is back | ||
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 03:34 |
| nixternal | hello...can you see this? | 03:35 |
| jjesse | see you typing? | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: nope | 03:35 |
| linuxmonkey | Hobbsee: did you check out my hackergotchi | 03:35 |
| nixternal | gahaha | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | linuxmonkey: i did | 03:35 |
| nixternal | Lag: 110s | 03:35 |
| nixternal | konversation is hosered on me | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | hah, great | 03:35 |
| nixternal | heya Hobbsee | 03:35 |
| nixternal | heya jjesse | 03:36 |
| nixternal | Switching from Windows going to be a no go? | 03:36 |
| jjesse | hiya nixternal | 03:36 |
| jjesse | i don't know haven't read my ubuntu-doc email much as i'm on the road right now, i would still like it to be | 03:36 |
| linuxmonkey | ive been forced to use windows at work :( but at home I havent touched windows in 4 weeks :) | 03:37 |
| nixternal | well...the replies havn't all been positive...but I think once people fully understand it, then that will change | 03:37 |
| jjesse | linuxmonkey: I only use kubuntu right now in a virtual machine | 03:37 |
| nixternal | im going to put windows on a vm so i can do that "switching from windows" documentation stuff for Kubuntu | 03:38 |
| nixternal | i believe i replied with some ideas that would be good..like if you are used to office switching to OOo or KO | 03:38 |
| nixternal | and what not | 03:38 |
| jjesse | nixternal: awesome | 03:38 |
| linuxmonkey | jjesse: what do u run normally | 03:38 |
| nixternal | gotta do my documentation since i can't code just yet ;) | 03:38 |
| nixternal | i can do xml and docbooks though | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: i'll remember that :P | 03:39 |
| nixternal | doh | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | you can do the documentations for all the packages :P | 03:39 |
| jjesse | linuxmonkey: i normally run windows for my work machine | 03:39 |
| nixternal | i forgot the channel im in...i thought i was in -doc | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | as they get debianised, and put into ubuntu | 03:39 |
| jjesse | at home i run kubuntu | 03:39 |
| linuxmonkey | cool i cant even run a vm at work | 03:39 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: i am not a full fledged docteam member just yet, so i am just an aide ;) im not full time yet LOL | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:40 |
| nixternal | i know that is a horrible try at an excuse | 03:40 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| linuxmonkey | Hobbsee: rush his application so we can keep him busy and away from the children | 03:40 |
| nixternal | i have been playing with docbooks layout and made my own phoney help...it is funny | 03:40 |
| jjesse | nixternal: you can still create documentation for theprograms that are missing | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 03:40 |
| nixternal | ahhh thanks jjesse for clarifying that in front of Hobbsee ;) | 03:40 |
| Riddell | blurg | 03:40 |
| jjesse | blurg back | 03:41 |
| nixternal | goto sleep Riddell ;) | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell! | 03:41 |
| jjesse | evening Riddell | 03:41 |
| linuxmonkey | omg its Riddell , everybody hide | 03:41 |
| Riddell | very good idea nixternal | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | why arent you asleep? | 03:41 |
| nixternal | Riddell just stumbled to the keyboard ;) | 03:41 |
| Riddell | we just got back after circling paris for half the night | 03:41 |
| nixternal | oh wow...quarter til 4...you will be hurting tomorrow | 03:41 |
| nixternal | or today | 03:41 |
| jjesse | were you up with jdub? | 03:41 |
| Riddell | no | 03:41 |
| linuxmonkey | Riddell: i just read you interview on behindubuntu... quite funny | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | oh, so that's why jdub's still up. | 03:42 |
| nixternal | lol | 03:42 |
| Riddell | I've not seen jdub | 03:42 |
| jjesse | oh was just wondering cause you both are up and on irc | 03:42 |
| nixternal | probably out with jgotangco | 03:42 |
| jjesse | or his gf? | 03:42 |
| linuxmonkey | lol they left jdub in the middle of paris to fend for himself | 03:42 |
| nixternal | or ya...the gf | 03:42 |
| nixternal | i just pictured an old cartoon of tom & jerry in france...and then jdub | 03:43 |
| nixternal | i can't stop laughing | 03:43 |
| linuxmonkey | lol | 03:43 |
| === Hobbsee thought that jdub was married. doesnt the girlfriend belong to someone else? | ||
| nixternal | hahaha | 03:43 |
| Riddell | it's mjg59's girlfriend | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | that's what i thought | 03:43 |
| Riddell | anyway, to bed I go | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | fiona | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | night Riddell, for a few more hours | 03:43 |
| nixternal | g'nite Riddell see you in a few hours for UDS ;) | 03:44 |
| === Hobbsee cracks her whip, so Riddell beds now! | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:44 |
| nixternal | gahaha | 03:44 |
| === linuxmonkey says to Hobbsee bring that whip when u come over :) | ||
| nixternal | wow..look at the power of Hobbsee | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: you could just chuck an all nighter, you know :P | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:44 |
| === Hobbsee isnt powerful. much. | ||
| crimsun | all nighters suck. I just did one. | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 03:46 |
| nixternal | i came close to one the other night..i couldnt' sleep at all | 03:46 |
| nixternal | did maybe 2 hours of tossing and turning...got up, made coffee and bug squashed | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | ouchy ouchy ouch. i think i might have to call in sick to work tonight, and i might not be typing much today... | 03:46 |
| crimsun | d'oh | 03:46 |
| linuxmonkey | what happened Hobbsee | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | linuxmonkey: dunno, my wrist is screwed and hurting (again) | 03:47 |
| linuxmonkey | thats stinks | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | rather. oh well. | 03:54 |
| jjesse | i'm probablly going to get this adept guide written mornfall is going to have a new version :( | 03:55 |
| nixternal | if i was your boss..im not falling for the hurt wrist technique, as teenage boys are using that excuse all over the world | 03:55 |
| === Hobbsee raises an eyebrow | ||
| Hobbsee | um, nixternal...i'm a female :P | 03:56 |
| nixternal | no your not..i seen the pic you sent me the other night ;) | 03:56 |
| jjesse | yeah don't mess with sarah | 03:56 |
| nixternal | girls are icky anyways ;) | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 03:57 |
| nixternal | that is the new coders slogan since they are getting younger and younger | 03:57 |
| nixternal | the next big linux distro will be by a 12yo with pimples and braces and still thinks that girls are icky | 03:57 |
| jjesse | what package do i have to have installed to use spell check in kate? | 03:57 |
| linuxmonkey | lol | 03:58 |
| jjesse | hmm never mind | 03:58 |
| nixternal | jjesse: tools | 03:58 |
| nixternal | ;) | 03:58 |
| nixternal | you don't use kate for docbooks? | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | * nixternal has left the chat (requested by hobbsee) | 03:58 |
| crimsun | I think we're making a grave mistake by not targeting the omgponies/barbie demographic | 03:58 |
| === nixternal walks away crying..."girls are icky" | ||
| nixternal | ;) | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: haha. you should have seen mithandir's screenshot | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | a few days ago in u-devel | 03:59 |
| nixternal | oh lord...crimsun and ponies..LOL | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | now *that* woudl be the people we should target, surely... | 03:59 |
| jjesse | yeah us older developers then would probablly have to register on some list | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:00 |
| RadiantFire | zOmG p0n13s! | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | *looks up* ponies ?!? | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | hrm eventual some -devel or -motu will make a ponies theme | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | eventualy* | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear. | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: NO PONY FOR YOU! | 04:01 |
| === imbrandon has two pinies , locked up inside his photoshop program | ||
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| RadiantFire | lol | 04:02 |
| RadiantFire | i really want to go try and gimp up a "pony theme" now | 04:02 |
| RadiantFire | I just had an inspiration | 04:02 |
| === Hobbsee smacks RadiantFire to get the ponies out of his system | ||
| RadiantFire | lol | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | now crimsun! look what you've started! | 04:03 |
| linuxmonkey | oh well | 04:04 |
| === Hobbsee suddenly wonders who's on the access list. | ||
| crimsun | hey now, I was just considering the forgotten segment of the *buntu demographic | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | ./msg chanserv access #kubuntu-devel list | 04:05 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, just checked. | 04:06 |
| jjesse | when is the next meeting? | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: 26th or so? | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | see /topic | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | 2100UTC - i think that's the last time i can do a meeting at that time. | 04:12 |
| jjesse | i haven't had a chance to make it to one of them | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: what time is that for you? | 04:12 |
| linuxmonkey | i'll be there :) im off on mondays | 04:13 |
| jjesse | i'm -5 | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | current time? | 04:13 |
| linuxmonkey | its 2;14AM UTC if i'm correct | 04:14 |
| linuxmonkey | right now | 04:14 |
| imbrandon | @time us/central | 04:15 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in US/Central: June 22 2006, 21:15:07 | 04:15 |
| linuxmonkey | i got Local, Paris and UTC set in my Kubuntu Clock :) | 04:15 |
| linuxmonkey | @time utc | 04:15 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: June 23 2006, 02:15:58 | 04:15 |
| jjesse | @time us/eastern | 04:16 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in US/Eastern: June 22 2006, 22:16:06 | 04:16 |
| jjesse | eastern is me :) | 04:16 |
| linuxmonkey | @time ca/atlantic | 04:16 |
| === imbrandon looks and makes sure he is in -devel still .... | ||
| === Hobbsee has many countries set in her kubuntu clock | ||
| Hobbsee | ah ok, so that's a decent timezone for you, you just cant make it | 04:17 |
| jjesse | for me? yeah just can't make it | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 04:18 |
| === Hobbsee wouldnt complain about it, but is part of the KCC, so they do tend to need me there to vote. | ||
| Hobbsee | so a reasonably sane timezone is kinda useful - as i cant vote if i'm not awake, and if htey dont have quorum, then not a lot can happen. | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | breakfast time. | 04:19 |
| freeflying|away | @schedule Shanghai | 04:22 |
| imbrandon | crimsun / Hobbsee : http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/ponies1.png | 04:24 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: this is the -devel channel i thought ;) | 04:24 |
| imbrandon | freeflying|away, that only works in -meeting | 04:24 |
| === jjesse cowers in fear | ||
| freeflying|away | imbrandon: ^_^ | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear... | 04:24 |
| === Hobbsee cringes | ||
| Hobbsee | kwwii: would love seeing that hhee | 04:25 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:25 |
| jjesse | is kwwii around? | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | dunno - he's signed in | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | can you just imagine someone demanding that to be the newest background? | 04:25 |
| nixternal | better than bubbles | 04:26 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:26 |
| imbrandon | bubbles was the default wallpaper in win95 ;) | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | and kde2 | 04:28 |
| jjesse | and it was ugly | 04:28 |
| crimsun | totally needs more pink in the title bar of the window manager theme | 04:28 |
| imbrandon | hahahah yea crimsun ;) | 04:28 |
| RadiantFire | crimsun: zomg pon1es! | 04:29 |
| RadiantFire | they're back | 04:29 |
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| freeflying|away | imbrandon: have you rebuild amarok-1.4.1 | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | freeflying|away, yea but no gst | 04:29 |
| imbrandon | couldnt get it working right last night' | 04:29 |
| freeflying|away | imbrandon: give me your archives, let more test it | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | freeflying|away, http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ | 04:30 |
| freeflying|away | imbrandon: thanks | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | source is there too | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | if you get it working let me know i'll rebuild it there and put up ppc and amd64 also | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | that should build in a clean dapper chroot , no need for kde 3.5.3 | 04:32 |
| === Hobbsee is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack1 | ||
| imbrandon | uht oh | 04:35 |
| jjesse | i didn't know you left :) | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 04:36 |
| === Hobbsee said that she had. | ||
| === jjesse doesn't always pay attention | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:38 |
| nixternal | you goin' to work Hobbsee? | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i think so, but not yet | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | not for hours yet | 04:47 |
| nixternal | i need some ice cream | 04:48 |
| nixternal | a nice big butter pecan sugar cone, 4 scoops...mmmmm | 04:48 |
| === nixternal is off for some ice cream | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear it went quiet. | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | what should i do today? | 04:59 |
| nixternal | mm that was good | 05:00 |
| nixternal | how about code ;) | 05:00 |
| imbrandon | install linux on my iPod ? | 05:00 |
| nixternal | give me some work to do | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: fix the documentation. i want documentation on how to merge, etc. | 05:01 |
| === imbrandon points nixternal to the documentation | ||
| nixternal | i think im gonna do some squashing tonight | 05:01 |
| === nixternal jots down the merge documentation and runs to the team | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:01 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt know how to merge yet. | ||
| === Hobbsee didnt come in early enough for merges last time. | ||
| === nixternal has no clue how to merge either ;) | ||
| nixternal | dont' feel bad | 05:02 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch_: will write us a guide, i'm sure... | 05:02 |
| imbrandon | look at the debian code , look at the ubuntu changes , see if they are still needed , if they are merge ;) if not sync ;) | 05:02 |
| nixternal | is there a spec for the guide at all? has it been brought up | 05:02 |
| nixternal | ahhh..i know what you are referring to now | 05:03 |
| nixternal | i still don't know how to do it | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, yes and yes | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: define merge - does that mean sticking it up on revu? | 05:03 |
| nixternal | point me to it imbrandon | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, probbly since you/me dont have motu upload ;) | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | true | 05:03 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, point you to what? the spec ? | 05:03 |
| === Hobbsee sometimes sends that kind of stuf by email. | ||
| Hobbsee | depends who i'm sending to | 05:04 |
| nixternal | you got it | 05:04 |
| nixternal | you said yes and yes | 05:04 |
| nixternal | im to busy to look ;) | 05:04 |
| imbrandon | its with the other specs for paris, please dont make me search lp for you ;) | 05:04 |
| nixternal | oh...and i am in some stupid c sharp class so i can program .net garbage...but will .net coding work with mono? | 05:04 |
| nixternal | lol imbrandon get to searchin' :) | 05:05 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, 1) .net isnt garbage and 2) yes mono is .net 2.0 compatible | 05:05 |
| nixternal | i asked the professor and he is a retard | 05:05 |
| nixternal | he is like what is mono...im like you idiot..you think microsoft is the onlything doing .net compliancy | 05:05 |
| nixternal | i should kill you for recommending it | 05:05 |
| nixternal | unless of course i can do it for nix | 05:06 |
| nixternal | ;) | 05:06 |
| imbrandon | c# is a ieee standard thus mono and ms.net and Pnet all are compatable | 05:06 |
| nixternal | .net all part of the evil empire ;) | 05:06 |
| imbrandon | and all compile and run the same code , you can compile on linux and run on windows and compile on windows and run on linux etc | 05:06 |
| nixternal | ok cool | 05:07 |
| nixternal | thats all i needed to know | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | .net not this time, stop preconcieving things, c# was put up for standarization | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | its binary compatable ;) | 05:07 |
| nixternal | and the c++ classes im in use vs.. | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | see not thats eveil | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | evil | 05:07 |
| imbrandon | anyhow brb | 05:07 |
| nixternal | c++ confuses the hell out of me cuz i learned it years ago with visual studio, but ... | 05:08 |
| nixternal | oh perfect time to leave | 05:08 |
| crimsun | err | 05:08 |
| nixternal | right in the middle of a question | 05:08 |
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| crimsun | since when did C# become an IEEE-ratified standard? | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, long ago | 05:08 |
| === nixternal steps out cuz i am just now lookin' at it | ||
| imbrandon | 2002 ? | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | some where in there | 05:08 |
| crimsun | I know it's an ECMA standard (334) | 05:09 |
| crimsun | but IEEE? | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | hrm maybe ecma /me is tired | 05:09 |
| crimsun | I see ISO/IEC 23270, too | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | point was to nix that mono and pnet and .net are all binary compatible | 05:10 |
| nixternal | ieee = electronics standards | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | right right | 05:10 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: b4 you go | 05:10 |
| nixternal | c++...how different between the platforms? | 05:10 |
| nixternal | because unfortunately i will be using it in windows for this project | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | depends | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | but it can be VERY | 05:11 |
| === nixternal should just stick with internetworking | ||
| nixternal | but i wanna code ;) | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | hell c++ can be diffrent for diffrent compilers on the SAME platform ;) | 05:11 |
| nixternal | hmmm | 05:11 |
| nixternal | and there isn't one place i can go to check that out either i bet | 05:12 |
| nixternal | probably have like 30 websites for 1 thing | 05:12 |
| nixternal | buntudot needs to clean up the web ;) | 05:12 |
| imbrandon | but over all you can use the techniues learned in class you just might have to tweak them for gcc ;) | 05:12 |
| nixternal | i remember some c++...i can still read it ok | 05:12 |
| nixternal | code is easy for me to read...but impossible for me to write anymore | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | just stray away from things like te w32 api and ms etcstl | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | err msstl etc | 05:13 |
| nixternal | i quit coding in like 1996 because i changed to combat engineering instead ;( | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | ok got to run bbiab | 05:13 |
| nixternal | k | 05:13 |
| nixternal | cya | 05:13 |
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| imbrandon | nixternal, http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-334.htm <-- c# info ( its not just MS ) | 05:14 |
| nixternal | thank you sir | 05:14 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 05:36 |
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| DaSkreech | So no XGL in Edgy? | 06:36 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: um, where'd you read that? | 06:36 |
| DaSkreech | Paris pretty much ignored it | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | was htere a spec for it? | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | if the xgl people werent in paris, it wouldnt have been discussed... | 06:49 |
| DaSkreech | Well how about the aiglx people? | 06:50 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| DaSkreech | Well that means that it's likely it won't ship as an easily enabled default right? | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | it'll get in if it's all done by feature freeze. check if htere's already a spec for it, and what's happening with it | 06:53 |
| DaSkreech | Ok | 06:53 |
| DaSkreech | hi again | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | heya. didnt mean to do that. | 07:13 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 07:16 |
| DaSkreech | What do you code in? | 07:16 |
| DaSkreech | Right | 07:16 |
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| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: me? | 07:18 |
| Hobbsee | lovely, brown's down again | 07:18 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Yep | 07:18 |
| Hobbsee | bits of c++, thru uni | 07:18 |
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| DaSkreech | ok | 07:19 |
| DaSkreech | Well I'm off to bed for the night | 07:20 |
| === DaSkreech waves | ||
| Hobbsee | night DaSkreech | 07:20 |
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| nixternal | weee | 07:38 |
| nixternal | http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ubuntuhks/?CMP=ILC-GG7423313304&ATT=ubuntuhks | 07:39 |
| nixternal | nice | 07:40 |
| === profoX|zZz is now known as profoX|examen | ||
| nixternal | Hobbsee: where is that link you gave out a while back concerning doing a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper? | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: hmmm...as in, not !upgrade? | 07:56 |
| Hobbsee | like, the testing one, to see if all the tests passed? | 07:56 |
| nixternal | that would be great if the link was good ;) | 07:56 |
| nixternal | i have a guy on kopete who wants to upgradeh | 07:56 |
| nixternal | i was gonna give him the link, but it isn't there | 07:56 |
| nixternal | he tried to install dapper from dvd, and it got to a certian point and his screen blinked twice and that was that | 07:57 |
| Hobbsee | that one? | 07:58 |
| nixternal | he keeps changing his sources.list to dapper from 5.10 and pastes all kinds of error messages..i told him a few times not to do that as it will break | 07:58 |
| nixternal | oh no..ubotu is messaging me ;) | 07:58 |
| nixternal | the 2nd link is broken....as in page gone or never was there ;) | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok | 07:59 |
| nixternal | gah | 07:59 |
| nixternal | ubotu puts a freakin' . at the end of that address | 08:00 |
| === nixternal is e.tarded | ||
| Hobbsee | now it works | 08:00 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 08:00 |
| nixternal | so you have some stuff you are working on that needs to be documented? | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...not currently, that i know of | 08:04 |
| nixternal | you just said something earlier about it so i wondered | 08:05 |
| nixternal | rsi break is starting to get on my nerves | 08:05 |
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| nixternal | moin freeflying-g4 | 08:06 |
| Hobbsee | hi freeflying-g4 | 08:07 |
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| nixternal | lol | 08:07 |
| nixternal | fine..don't talk to us | 08:07 |
| freeflying|away | nixternal: hey | 08:07 |
| freeflying|away | Hobbsee: hi | 08:07 |
| nixternal | ahh | 08:07 |
| nixternal | lol | 08:07 |
| nixternal | his ghost is alive | 08:07 |
| nixternal | i hope Riddell set his alarm clock ;) | 08:08 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | or they'll just go bang on his door :P | 08:10 |
| nixternal | eventually | 08:11 |
| === Hobbsee looks for interesting pacakges. | ||
| === nixternal continues reading XML:DocBook | ||
| nixternal | actually...im almost reading the back of my eyelids | 08:16 |
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| kwwii | moin | 09:43 |
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| allee | kwwii: hi | 09:46 |
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| kwwii | hi allee | 10:02 |
| allee | how are things going | 10:03 |
| allee | +? | 10:03 |
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| === allee better didn't ask. He remembers yesterday's soccer game ;) | ||
| kwwii | allee: not quite sure atm | 10:07 |
| kwwii | hehe, yeah, I am still pissed about football | 10:08 |
| allee | kwwii: we'll see how Hobbsee feels today (but afiak she does not care). | 10:08 |
| kwwii | :p | 10:09 |
| allee | here, next to socceros everything is silent. | 10:09 |
| kwwii | yeah, I keep hiding in my hotel rooms in the afternoons to watch soccer | 10:10 |
| kwwii | can't wait to get back home | 10:10 |
| kwwii | going shopping is really nice - all the stores and parking lots are empty | 10:10 |
| allee | 4 o'clock meetings almost empty in paris ;) | 10:10 |
| allee | heh, same here for the highway | 10:11 |
| allee | only a stupid camping van driver yesterday seem too excited about a gool and made a somersault. Unfortunately with his car. | 10:12 |
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| allee | make sure that you finish you're shopping soon. Propability is high that france will not that much longer participate | 10:14 |
| kwwii | lol | 10:17 |
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| Tonio_ | hey allee fine ? | 11:08 |
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| mornfall | Riddell: so what's the plan for today? | 11:11 |
| mornfall | anything that needs to be done still? | 11:11 |
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| Riddell | mornfall: have you put all the screen mockups up for adept usability? | 11:13 |
| mornfall | i will eventually make some more in designer | 11:14 |
| mornfall | i mean more like something worth a meetup :) | 11:14 |
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| allee | Hey Tonio. I can't complain. Bit less sleep, and an anoying bug that drives me cracy. So everything normal. | 11:34 |
| === allee ponders if there are somewhere recordings of the paris session? Damn' teamspeak does not work due to firewall :( | ||
| allee | Tonio_: how's it going in Paris? | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | very fine ,- | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | I'll suggest to have a look at kwwii's blog | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | he might have a few interesting things to say about that week | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | so sad you guys cannot be there | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | there are really lots of very interesting things planned for edgy | 11:45 |
| kwwii | once I get a card reader (I lost my cable) I'll blog about this | 11:49 |
| Riddell | kwwii: sladen has one | 11:50 |
| kwwii | hehe, funny, I asked him and he did not respond | 11:50 |
| kwwii | but I found someone else with one | 11:50 |
| Riddell | kwwii: pull his ponytail until he responds | 11:50 |
| kwwii | :p | 11:51 |
| Riddell | mornfall: we actually for the first time have a good schedule today http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/schedule/2006-06-23/ | 11:51 |
| Riddell | (from a kubuntu point of view) | 11:51 |
| mornfall | well, sort of, yes | 11:51 |
| \sh | has anyone discussed the kubuntu laptop testing team idea? | 11:56 |
| luka74 | \sh: that would really make sense - at least sponsored laptops should be also tested with Kubuntu... | 11:58 |
| Lure | Riddell: ^^^ | 11:58 |
| \sh | well, there is only one release left for the sponsored laptops...but in general we need to concentrate on a kubuntu laptop testing team...sponsored or not | 11:59 |
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| Riddell | \sh: it just needs someone to lead it | 12:22 |
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| Riddell | seaLne... | 12:26 |
| Riddell | seaLne: new k3b out | 12:26 |
| seaLne | heh | 12:27 |
| Riddell | 0.12.16 | 12:29 |
| seaLne | Riddell: got a minute to help me understand how to merge the changelogs? | 12:30 |
| seaLne | Riddell: also what happens about k3b i18n? | 12:31 |
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| jpatrick | seaLne: I think it's to be removed | 12:35 |
| seaLne | ie it dosen't need packaged afaik? | 12:35 |
| jpatrick | no | 12:36 |
| jpatrick | cos it goes into k3b | 12:37 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: just do it in any sensible way | 12:53 |
| Riddell | I usually put the ubuntu changes just above the debian changes they derived from in a block | 12:53 |
| Riddell | which means the versions can be out of order but it correctly indicates when they were merged | 12:54 |
| seaLne | its just some of them don't apply to kubuntu and what about things like "apply ubuntu patches"? | 12:54 |
| seaLne | ah | 12:54 |
| seaLne | the order was one of the things i wondered about | 12:54 |
| Riddell | and keep all the debian entries, that's important | 12:55 |
| seaLne | ok | 12:56 |
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| Riddell | seaLne: do package k3b-i18n | 01:13 |
| Riddell | I need to talk to Rosetta Carlos to find out if we actally upload it or just send it directly to him | 01:14 |
| seaLne | ok, ignore my recently uploaded packages they are broken | 01:14 |
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| Tonio_ | !lastspoke kwwii | 01:20 |
| Tonio_ | hum.... I think we need an eggdrop here :) | 01:20 |
| imbrandon | !seen kwwii | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | ? | 01:22 |
| apokryphos | no ubotu in here | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | doh | 01:22 |
| imbrandon | heya apokryphos | 01:22 |
| apokryphos | you can use /msg seenserv seen kwwii though | 01:22 |
| apokryphos | hi imbrandon 8) | 01:22 |
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| Seveas | %config channel plugins.myfactoids.database ubuntu | 01:24 |
| ubotu | OK | 01:24 |
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| imbrandon | gah is there a better way to search debian unstable than the google thing on the packages.debian.org site? trying to find the package ipodslave to compare etc and see if it needs merged/sync and debian search sucks | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | lol | 01:50 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, gnome stuff is comming accross edgy-changes, does that mean we can start uploading / syncing kde stuff ? | 01:58 |
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| kane__ | Riddell: how does a PDF get converted to PS when printing ? I have a major printing issue in kubuntu 6.06 in which characters get snipped at the top and right sides | 02:03 |
| kane__ | this wasnt a problem in kubuntu flight-7 | 02:03 |
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| imbrandon | moins goldenear | 02:07 |
| goldenear | hi | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | hey goldenear | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | are you there or do you plan to come ? | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | I may leave at about 3:30 pm | 02:08 |
| goldenear | I'm sure sure if I will go to the hotel today | 02:08 |
| goldenear | I won't be available until 5pm | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | okay so let's forget it concerning me :) | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | too late by far | 02:09 |
| goldenear | so I can't be to the hotel until 18:30 :( | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | well simply forget then, lots of people will be over at that time | 02:09 |
| goldenear | Also I would like to work with hellen on oskar | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | yes I know but well.... | 02:10 |
| goldenear | that's what I think | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | maybe you can still contact her afterwards on irc or by mail | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | kde still needs a default good standard video player, so that can be interesting for her either | 02:10 |
| goldenear | I've some time now to modify the oskar UI with the stuffs we talk about | 02:11 |
| goldenear | I will send the .ui file to her for advice | 02:11 |
| goldenear | Also she told me she wanted to go to paris the evening | 02:12 |
| Tonio_ | yes there is a dinner | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | I will not be there but probably she will | 02:14 |
| goldenear | Tonio_: sould you ask her if she still think to go to paris this evening ? Also, I propose to the people not leaving today to go to a nice caf at the top of Menilmontant with a very nice view on Paris | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | just the point is I don't know if non present today people can be invited....... | 02:14 |
| Tonio_ | there is a restaurant evening organised with everyone there | 02:15 |
| goldenear | I will take your place at the dinner :) | 02:15 |
| goldenear | I will represent your interrests and speak for you :D | 02:15 |
| goldenear | Tonio_: is the restaurant in Paris or near the hotel ? | 02:16 |
| Tonio_ | the restaurant is only offered to sponsored people ;) | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | not everyone there | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | so neither you nore me | 02:17 |
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| kane__ | Riddell: found the problem ... well sort of atleast ..... it is pdftops | 02:17 |
| goldenear | Tonio_: that's not really nice :( | 02:20 |
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| Riddell | kane__: which problem? | 02:27 |
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| kane__ | Riddell: printing Malayalam is screwed in kubuntu 6.06 | 02:27 |
| kane__ | Riddell: eh, sorry for the wrong word | 02:28 |
| kane__ | Riddell: printing malayalam is not right in kubuntu 6.06 | 02:28 |
| kane__ | Riddell: top and right edges of glyphs are cut off | 02:28 |
| Riddell | kane__: so the malayalam text is broken when printing? | 02:28 |
| Riddell | right | 02:28 |
| kane__ | Riddell: shall I send you a sample PDF and PS ? | 02:28 |
| Riddell | sure | 02:28 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 02:36 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: thanks. | 02:36 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: welcome | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:37 |
| === Hobbsee was just thinking on it, after having seen someone being kicked in #ubuntu-devel | ||
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| goldenear | Tonio__: are you still there ? | 02:41 |
| Tonio__ | yes | 02:42 |
| goldenear | Tonio_: tu me bois pas en pv ? | 02:44 |
| goldenear | vois* | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | oups sorry je prends le pc | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | pv | 02:45 |
| kane__ | Riddell: you there ? | 02:46 |
| kane__ | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50771 | 02:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 50771 in Ubuntu "Malayalam text is cut off at the top and right hand side" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 02:46 |
| kane__ | Riddell: i am going to try with xpdf-utils and see if the same problem persists | 02:47 |
| goldenear | Hi Riddell | 02:53 |
| goldenear | Do you know if Hellen is on the IRC ? | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | hi goldenear Tonio_ and kane__ | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | yop Hobbsee | 02:54 |
| kane__ | hi Hobbsee | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | fine ? | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | I'm off irc now | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | ;) seya | 02:54 |
| goldenear | hi Hobbsee | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | bye Tonio_ | 02:55 |
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| imbrandon | cya Tonio_ | 03:03 |
| goldenear | Riddell: Is Hellen on the irc ? | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | goldenear: i beleive he's in a meeting now. who's hellen? | 03:17 |
| goldenear | Hellen is the accessibility expert from kde | 03:20 |
| \sh | goldenear: you mean ellen | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | hi \sh | 03:40 |
| \sh | hey Hobbsee | 03:40 |
| \sh | oh sebas...I'm really sorry to hear what happened to you... | 03:42 |
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| kane__ | Riddell: you there ? | 03:55 |
| goldenear | \sh: yes ellen :) | 04:01 |
| === seaLne wonders what happened to sebas | ||
| === Hobbsee was wondering that too, but was tryign to avoid asking. | ||
| \sh | Hobbsee: read planet.kubuntu.de :) | 04:06 |
| \sh | kwwii posting | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | ouch! | 04:08 |
| seaLne | erk | 04:08 |
| === Hobbsee thought that p.k.d was in german. | ||
| === seaLne wonders what is on p.k.d that isn't on p.u.c but can't be bothered enough to try to work it out | ||
| Hobbsee | seaLne: kwwi's blog post isnt there, as it would have been picked up by my rss feed off it. | 04:11 |
| seaLne | hmm quite a lot, better add to bloglines then | 04:12 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: could you verify one bug ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50771 | 04:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 50771 in Ubuntu "Malayalam text is cut off at the top and right hand side" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] | 04:12 |
| === Hobbsee looks. | ||
| kane__ | Hobbsee: just download the PDF, then print preview | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: yeah, what am i looking for? | 04:14 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: look at the very last glyph of the first word on the first line | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | i got that much :P | 04:15 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: compare it with the original PDF ... do you see the top cut off ? | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | ah, of the first word on the first line, not the last word on the first line. | 04:16 |
| seaLne | http://librarian.launchpad.net/3141582/kpdf.png | 04:16 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: the last glyph of the first word on the first line | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 04:17 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: so you can confirm it ? | 04:17 |
| === seaLne dosen't get a problem | ||
| Hobbsee | no | 04:17 |
| === Hobbsee thinks they look the same | ||
| seaLne | just printed and it was fine | 04:17 |
| kane__ | seaLne: ah ... you need to zoom in | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | sheesh, this is as bad as eye tests! | 04:17 |
| kane__ | just try it | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | "which image looks clearer?" well mate, after you've shown me the first twenty, i've got no idea! | 04:18 |
| seaLne | kane__: even zoomed in it looks fine and prints fine | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: nope, i cant reproduce that. no, wait. i see... | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: try at about 300% or so | 04:19 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee, seaLne, I saw this problem first in another document ... believe it is bad (though it seems harmless in this example document I have uploaded) | 04:19 |
| seaLne | the squigle under the first thing on the left of the bottom line? | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: zooming both into about 300% or 400% shows it pretty clearly | 04:19 |
| kane__ | I couldn't upload the original document because it contains some private material | 04:20 |
| kane__ | yes, zoom to about 300% | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | first word, first line, last symbol | 04:20 |
| seaLne | the "o" thing? | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | second word, third symbol too, it's even more pronounced | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 04:20 |
| kane__ | yes, there are many lines which are more pronounced | 04:20 |
| === Hobbsee screenshots, to add to that bug report | ||
| kane__ | Hobbsee: i am trying to add one ... | 04:21 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: the situation is worse than this document shows ... | 04:22 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: my original document, the glyphs were also clipped on the right hand side .. | 04:23 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: that can cause reading errors, since there are many many glyphs in Malayalam which share the same left hand side, but differ on the right hand side | 04:23 |
| kane__ | (in fact, I was proof reading the document when I noticed the error) | 04:23 |
| kane__ | seaLne: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3141639/snapshot1.png | 04:24 |
| === seaLne decides his eyesight isn't good enough for this | ||
| kane__ | seaLne: don't worry ... you will see it :) | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: once you see it, you wonder how you missed it - but zoom to around 400%, and look at the top of the bigger characters | 04:25 |
| seaLne | have you tried printing it? my print out is better than viewing on screen | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: not at 400% it isnt :P | 04:26 |
| kane__ | seaLne: oh yes, i have printed my original PDF (not this test one) | 04:26 |
| seaLne | yeah but i've noticed stuff in english not looking amazing in previews | 04:26 |
| === Hobbsee adds a clearer screenshot. | ||
| Hobbsee | there we go | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: look at my attachment for ti | 04:27 |
| kane__ | seaLne: the print outs are really bad (atleast for my original document) .. i guess it is because the eye can discern it better on paper | 04:28 |
| seaLne | laser or inkjet? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: http://librarian.launchpad.net/3141710/snapshot7.png | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | you may have to zoom my image, i'm not sure | 04:29 |
| seaLne | Hobbsee: what if you scroll up a bit? | 04:29 |
| kane__ | seaLne: it doesnt go away with scrolling | 04:29 |
| seaLne | its not just a view cropping? | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: no change | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | that's the top most view | 04:30 |
| kane__ | seaLne: the same problem is seen even in the print out ... i just verified | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | now that you know where it is, and wha's wrong with it, why dont you check? | 04:30 |
| kane__ | seaLne, Hobbsee, also, take the pdf and run it through pdftops ... and use kghostview to view the ps ... you will see the same error | 04:30 |
| imbrandon | seaLne, notice the second and 3rd lines in Hobbsee screenshot, it does the same thing | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | krita's a very nice piece of software, it seems :) | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | hey yeah, so it does | 04:31 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea krita is nice ps == better ;) | 04:31 |
| kane__ | i ran it through the pdftops of both xpdf-utils and poppler-utils ... yeah issue | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | it looks like it's not allocating enough height for each line of words | 04:31 |
| seaLne | i see the problem in those screenshots but my print out looks fine in those places | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: you're printout is 1/4 of the magnification - that happens :P | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: which proggy was this created in? | 04:32 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: isnt not only that ... i have another document where it is clipped on the right as well | 04:32 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: OOo | 04:32 |
| seaLne | but smaller magnification dosen't add stuff in | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: are there settings for the heights of the characters in OOo? | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: true, but it does make it harder to see | 04:32 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: tried the settings | 04:33 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: line spacing, whatever ... tried everything, doesnt work | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, line spacing would be what you're looking for. | 04:33 |
| seaLne | Hobbsee: for example the first thing circled on your screenshot i can see more of on my printout | 04:33 |
| kane__ | ive been on this since yesterday | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: you found the spacing setting, in the styles and formatting section of OOo, and even changing it to a very large amount doesn tfix the problem? | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | or even double line spacing, for that matter. | 04:37 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: no it doesnt | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | darn | 04:37 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: in the test pdf ... look at the first word, first line, last paragraph | 04:37 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: you will see the clipping on the right hand side | 04:38 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: do you ? | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | first word, first line, last paragraph...clipping on RHS of which symbol? | 04:39 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: second glyph | 04:39 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: it almost looks like a space ... but it isnt :) | 04:40 |
| === Hobbsee cant see that, no | ||
| kane__ | Hobbsee: ive added a screenshot showing that http://librarian.launchpad.net/3141853/snapshot2.png | 04:44 |
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| === Hobbsee looks again. | ||
| Hobbsee | oh for goodness sake! | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: yeah, i can reproduce that | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | hobbsee@hobbsee: sudo /etc/init.d/brain restart | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | maybe restart should read start. | 04:50 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear, i think i win the idiot award of the day again. | 04:51 |
| Riddell | goldenear: Ellen is sometimes on as el but not usually | 04:55 |
| Riddell | kane__: hi | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: where's that duncecap again. | 04:55 |
| === imbrandon hands it to Hobbsee | ||
| === Hobbsee wears it proudly. i thikn i need sleep | ||
| Hobbsee | actually, on second thoughts. | 04:55 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:55 |
| === Hobbsee hands it to her boss. | ||
| kane__ | Hobbsee: heh cool :) | 04:58 |
| === jpatrick takes it off Hobbsee's boss and onto himself | ||
| kane__ | Riddell: hi ... | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: no, my boss really does deserve it. | 04:58 |
| kane__ | Riddell: any suggestions to fix the problem ? | 04:58 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: and so do I | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: do you run the risk of getting fired for your error? | 04:59 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: no, my reason's more personal | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | okay, that might just win. | 05:00 |
| jpatrick | PM if you really wanna know | 05:00 |
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| DaSkreech | Morning Y'all | 05:06 |
| kane__ | Riddell: ? | 05:06 |
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| kane__ | Hobbsee: actually, sometimes the bottom gets clipped too | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: i'm thinking of blaming line spacing, in OOo - with massive line spacing, does the print preview in OOo work correctly? | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | ie, is it saved wrongly in the first place, or is it kpdf's problem | 05:08 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: i dont think it is kpdf's problem .. | 05:09 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: it could be poppler's problem | 05:09 |
| goldenear | Riddell: Could you tell ellen I would like to talk to her for a few minutes ? | 05:09 |
| === DaSkreech snickers at poopler | ||
| kane__ | print preview in OOo doesnt show the error ... but when printing the file in OOo shows the problem in the print out ... due to which i suspect it is the PDF->PS driver that is causing this | 05:10 |
| goldenear | Riddell: I hope she's still at the hotel | 05:10 |
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| kane__ | Hobbsee: print preview in OOo doesnt show the error ... but when printing the file in OOo shows the problem in the print out ... due to which i suspect it is the PDF->PS driver that is causing this | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | ah okay | 05:10 |
| DaSkreech | Well I'm in an exam so cheerio :) | 05:11 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: what is wierd is that, this bug was non-existent in flight-7 | 05:11 |
| kane__ | err | 05:11 |
| DaSkreech | Ermm poppler. | 05:11 |
| kane__ | flight-5 i guess | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm...okay... | 05:13 |
| nixternal | moin | 05:14 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: is there some way I can revert to an older version of poppler ? | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: download it off launchpad, and sudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | i believe works | 05:15 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: but would it pull in all the deps ? | 05:15 |
| kane__ | err | 05:15 |
| kane__ | dpkg doesnt | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: not with dpkg - do a sudo apt-get build-dep poppler before that | 05:15 |
| kane__ | so we can safely assume it wont :/ | 05:15 |
| jpatrick | kane__: ran apt-get install -f | 05:15 |
| kane__ | jpatrick: thanks | 05:15 |
| kane__ | Hobbsee: i dont need to build it ;) | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | kane__: i realise that, but it will get the deps needed in order to install the package | 05:16 |
| kane__ | is there some way to find out what version of the package was in flight-5 ? | 05:17 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm | 05:17 |
| kane__ | eh | 05:17 |
| DaSkreech | If java becomes Free Software would people stop having an issue with OOo? | 05:17 |
| kane__ | i'll just look in the iso :P | 05:17 |
| kane__ | DaSkreech: OOo can already use gcj i think | 05:18 |
| DaSkreech | kane__: Doesn't stop people having issues about it | 05:19 |
| DaSkreech | If World Wind worked on Linux I'm sure some people would still be screaming to avoid it | 05:19 |
| kane__ | DaSkreech: gcj is Free Software | 05:20 |
| kane__ | its the java frontend for gcc | 05:20 |
| Riddell | goldenear: she is | 05:20 |
| Riddell | goldenear: when will you be here? | 05:20 |
| Riddell | goldenear: we're leaving the hotel at 6 | 05:20 |
| goldenear | Riddell: ok I'm talking to her on the IRC | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | what, is the conference over already? | 05:22 |
| goldenear | Riddell: I won't be at the hotel today... too many work here in Paris. But may be we could meet after the ubuntu diner (for those not leaving too early tomorrow morning) | 05:22 |
| DaSkreech | I know | 05:22 |
| imbrandon | kane__, after you dpkg -i something and it has dep problems you can "sudo apt-get install -f" and it will grab the deps from the repos ( if they are there ) | 05:23 |
| DaSkreech | kane__: Installing openoffice installs a java-base doesn't it? | 05:24 |
| imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea the conf ends in about 30 min officialy | 05:24 |
| Hobbsee | oh ok | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | the poeple that are sponsored though are going to a "dinner" | 05:25 |
| === DaSkreech is going to be up all night reading notes on the conference :( | ||
| Hobbsee | ah, i see, i see... | 05:25 |
| imbrandon | anyone know the link to kwii's blog ? | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: planet.kubuntu.de? | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | he blogs in multiple places | 05:26 |
| === Hobbsee thinks she's about to get yelled at | ||
| imbrandon | i ment the blogspot one but that will work ;) | 05:26 |
| nixternal | you see kwwii's blog? looks like he had some problems in Paris ;) | 05:27 |
| haggai | DaSkreech: OOo depends on java-gcj-compat | j2re1.4 | java2-runtime | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, ouchy | 05:27 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I just checked the dependency table | 05:27 |
| === DaSkreech sighs as dapper upgrade has some issues it seems | ||
| kane__ | Hobbsee: opening the PDF file directly in kghostview also shows the problem | 05:28 |
| haggai | DaSkreech: most of OOo will work without java anyway | 05:28 |
| kane__ | its a wonder than OOo works at all :P | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm | 05:31 |
| === imbrandon hugs koffice | ||
| nixternal | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117 <- could serve useful for all those that want their cups via webface | 05:32 |
| nixternal | although he didn't have to bash Kubuntu dev's...and I kind of see why the dev's left it out, beyond security reasons, cuz it look ooogly ;) | 05:33 |
| nixternal | well he didn't bash straight out, but you can read between the lines ;) | 05:33 |
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| Hobbsee | cool, that works. | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | night all | 05:54 |
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| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Night | 05:55 |
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| DaSkreech | Kopete 0.12 has bugs | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | Or Gaim does | 09:34 |
| DaSkreech | One of the two | 09:35 |
| DaSkreech | Though I think it's the collabartion tween the two | 09:35 |
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| seaLne | http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JaneWeideman/ if anyone is interested | 11:00 |
| jpatrick | DaSkreech: what's sup?? :D | 11:02 |
| DaSkreech | Nothing Much :) | 11:02 |
| DaSkreech | Looking over some stuff for katapult | 11:03 |
| jpatrick | I've just got a bit of RSI, from overplaying on my guitar | 11:03 |
| jpatrick | I knew toma's app would come in handy one day | 11:04 |
| DaSkreech | for playing the gituar? | 11:04 |
| jpatrick | No | 11:04 |
| jpatrick | the rsibreak app | 11:04 |
| jpatrick | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29725 | 11:05 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: do you want spelling mistake corrections? | 11:06 |
| seaLne | not particuarly, but go on :) | 11:11 |
| seaLne | spanish? | 11:11 |
| jpatrick | No | 11:11 |
| jpatrick | first para says "local compnay" | 11:12 |
| jpatrick | and the contribute to FLOSS bit has a evangelisation^Wpromotion, what's the ^W for? | 11:12 |
| jpatrick | I can check the spanish | 11:12 |
| seaLne | delete word | 11:13 |
| seaLne | its ment to be there | 11:13 |
| jpatrick | hey the guy translated the Are you being paid bit wrong | 11:13 |
| jpatrick | s/guy/guy or lady | 11:14 |
| seaLne | guy | 11:14 |
| jpatrick | "S, soy empleada de Canonical Ltd" -> "Ahora no, yo era empleada de Canonical Ltd hasta el 15 de Junio" | 11:15 |
| seaLne | s/translated wrong/didn't update translation/ ? | 11:16 |
| jpatrick | No idea | 11:16 |
| seaLne | does it say that she works there? | 11:16 |
| jpatrick | that's what it should be if it's following the English text | 11:17 |
| jpatrick | it says she is working there | 11:17 |
| seaLne | yeah but now you point it out it looks to me like its says she does? | 11:17 |
| jpatrick | Yes | 11:17 |
| seaLne | ah yeah, he just missed out the update then | 11:17 |
| seaLne | thanks | 11:18 |
| jpatrick | no problem | 11:18 |
| linuxmonkey | did anyone ever package the newer version of sun java? the version on the repo is 1.5.0-06-1 and the version on sun's website is jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin | 11:24 |
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| linuxmonkey | anyone here? | 11:59 |
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