[12:04] <thechris> E: Command line option --reconfigure is not understood
[12:05] <zommes> i found one!
[12:05] <zommes> Tiny Fugue
[12:06] <thechris> chris@mosfet:~$ apt-get | grep reconfigure -- nothing
[12:07] <thechris> E: Command line option 'a' [from -a]  is not known.
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> its dpkg --reconfigure -a
[12:09] <thechris> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> dpkg --configure -a
[12:10] <fiyawerx_> anyone familiar with freenx?
[12:11] <|lostbyte|> fiyawerx, WHy ? its a vnc right ?
[12:12] <fiyawerx_> yeah, I'm having some problems and can't seem to find a good solution, I think it's mostly running, i can connect, but i can't get any sessions up
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> use sevas's packages and when you configure it make sure you don't use the nomachines key
[12:12] <fiyawerx_> my winxp client auths and connects, and then nothing happens
[12:13] <fiyawerx_> when i run the check, it comes up with an error about the startup command for kde
[12:13] <jimmy__> exit
[12:13] <thechris> kwin and kicker still crash
[12:13] <thechris> dpkg didn't fix the problem
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> which version of kde are you running ?
[12:15] <fiyawerx_> pastebin running like crap for anyone else?
[12:15] <thechris> unsure.  whatever is on 6.06
[12:15] <thechris> i assume 3.5.x
[12:16] <fiyawerx_> !paste
[12:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> then 3.5.2
[12:17] <dnordenberg> Hello. I want to install firestarter but I cant find it in adept even when i have activated "universe"
[12:17] <thechris> this happened when i used gentoo as well, so its not a kubuntu specific bug.
[12:17] <dnordenberg> Whats wrong then? package is here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/firestarter/
[12:17] <fiyawerx_> does anyone know if this kde start command looks wrong at all? it's the default for freenx
[12:17] <fiyawerx_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16294
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> dnordenberg, sudo apt-get update
[12:20] <gnomefreak> dnordenberg: make sure its universe you added not backports (universe) than run apt-get update
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> BRB
[12:28] <_bon> how gay is that no flash 8 for linux
[12:29] <fiyawerx_> man this thing can be frustrating when somethings not working right
[12:29] <nnn0> that's a good thing
[12:29] <nnn0> no we can make something better
[12:29] <nnn0> :)
[12:30] <nnn0> actionscript has always felt wierd to me :)
[12:31] <nnn0> if we only could get rid of pdf too
[12:33] <edulix> how can I install the sources of a package with aptitude?
[12:33] <robotgeek> edulix: apt-get source package
[12:33] <edulix> yeah I know, I just though that maybe aptitude allowed that also
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> does using apt-get build-dep annoy aptitude ?
[12:35] <edulix> dunno ask him :P
[12:35] <bioticpro> Im trying to decide between these cards http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814143038%2CN82E16814127203%2CN82E16814133149%2CN82E16814143056
[12:35] <bioticpro> for a dell optiplex gx260, any advice for which one to get please
[12:41] <DarkStone> bah
[12:41] <DarkStone> im so dead..
[12:42] <DarkStone> "The application KDE Panel (kicker) crashed and caused the signal 8 (SIGFPE)"
[12:43] <DarkStone> anyone?
[12:44] <DarkStone> bah
[12:44] <DarkStone> ima reinstall
[12:44] <DarkStone> brb
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> Any one have any idea how to get the speed i am paying for ?
[12:51] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: are you paying one of us? :)
[12:51] <|lostbyte|> =/
[12:51] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: what speed though
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> the mtu will be set wrongly I think almost cerainly
[12:51] <|lostbyte|> I am on a usb adsl modem with 256kbps and i can download at only 25 kb /sec
[12:52] <robotgeek> |lostbyte|: what does a speed/bandwidth test show you?
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, As you said earlier.. i found out that my isp sets it my default to 1500
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> so its at that at the moment.
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> But ppp takes 8 bytes to encapsulate it
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek, Shows me about 175 Kbps
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, So what are you saaying ?
[12:53] <lnxkde> someone knows a good place to buy a domain?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> Have you tried setting that lower see whether it improves anything ?
[12:54] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, Could you give me a value ?
[12:55] <[BU] Brizz> lnxkde: http://www.omnis.com
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> 1492
[12:55] <TonySt> Right.... I updated to kubuntu 6.6, and accidently erased most of my config files. I can reconstruct most of them, but one thing is puzzling me: The volume on my machine is now almost inaudibly low. Anyone know why, or how I could fix it?
[12:55] <|lostbyte|> ok ! what abour mru ?
[12:55] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, ^
[12:55] <macconline> any repositories for LAMP???
[12:56] <h3sp4wn> lostbyte: Just try 1492 as well
[12:56] <ChunHere> lamp is a bunch of software put together, Linux+Apache+MySQL+PHP
[12:56] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, Alright ! and speed ?
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> speed option ? do i set that ?
[12:57] <ChunHere> you can get all those from the repository, it's just setting them all up
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> lostbyte: speed shouldn't need to be set
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, Ok ! BRB..
[12:59] <TonySt> Anyone have a clue as to what happened/what I can do?
[12:59] <macconline> ok. but which repository?? in the me no found
[12:59] <macconline> sorry my english
[12:59] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, ok ! will test now..
[01:01] <h3sp4wn> thelostbyte: If it was working properly in mandriva it is definately something to do with the configuration of ppp
[01:01] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, :( 171.5 kilobits per second
[01:01] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, yeah ! i used to get excat 256 kbps at http://www.bandwidthplace.com
[01:02] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, So your sure there is no other thing i have to check into. ?
[01:02] <thelostbyte_> its ppp absolute ?
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> I would say 95% it is something to do with ppp
[01:04] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, ok !
[01:04] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, I'll remove all options an add them one my one..
[01:04] <thelostbyte_> by*
[01:04] <ChunHere> the main repository should have apache, mysql, and php  and then go google some articles about how to set them up, either that or download ubuntu server, haven't tried it out but it says it has automatic lamp
[01:05] <thelostbyte_> h3sp4wn, Thanx for the tip..
[01:05] <rigonatti> hi all ...can anyone do me a favor with a icon pack ?
[01:05] <fiyawerx_> does this look wrong to anyone /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startkde"
[01:05] <fiyawerx_> -"
[01:26] <tmdx120> apokryphos: Hi, Just wanted to let you know that I can access my USB now. Thanks!
[01:27] <apokryphos> tmdx120: excellent :)
[01:28] <tmdx120> apokryphos: do you mind if I ask you another Q?
[01:28] <tmdx120> apokryphos: how can I get wine on my kubuntu dapper distro?
[01:29] <linuxmonkey> tmdx120:  sudo apt-get install wine
[01:29] <apokryphos> tmdx120: /msg ubotu wine
[01:29] <apokryphos> for instructions and howto
[01:34] <fiyawerx_> maybe there's just something i have to do that i don't know about after running nxclient, heh
[01:37] <RawSewage> Kubuntu has a built-in automatic timed wallpaper changer
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx_: Have you run nxserver-setup (can't remember if that is the exact name)
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx_: I had it working with my own ssh keys (when itsays do you want the nomachines key say no)
[01:40] <scast> Anyone knows where can I find documentation about how to make a Kicker applet?
[01:43] <robotgeek> scast: i think there was a tutorial on kde.org with c++, though i imaging it should work with python as well
[01:43] <fiyawerx_> h3sp4wn: yeah, i can connect with nxclient, it establishes an x session, then nothing happens
[01:43] <fiyawerx_> h3sp4wn: i don't get any windows or anything up
[01:44] <robotgeek> fiyawerx_: did you check kde on the client?
[01:44] <fiyawerx_> robotgeek: i've tried kde, gnome (installed gnome-desktop just to try freenx with gnome) and xdm, they all do the same thing
[01:44] <fiyawerx_> establsihes connection, then just sits there
[01:45] <fiyawerx_> im coming from an xp client, by the way
[01:45] <scast> robotgeek: i looked there but i didnt found nothing. :(
[01:45] <fiyawerx_> im just removing everything and going to try the install again from nothing
[01:45] <fiyawerx_> client and nxserver
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx_: select custom session - and run /usr/bin/startkde
[01:45] <fiyawerx_> h3sp4wn: ok, will try that
[01:46] <robotgeek> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/panel-applets.html scast
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx_: custom -> run the following command /usr/bin/startkde
[01:47] <fiyawerx_> sudo nxsetup
[01:47] <fiyawerx_> oops
[01:47] <scast> robotgeek: thanks
[01:48] <fiyawerx_> h3sp4wn: floating window, or new virtual desktop for options
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> new virtual desktop
[01:50] <fiyawerx_> ok, same thing happened, it connects, and then no windows come up
[01:50] <fiyawerx_> nx session administrator (on my client machine) shows it as running
[01:51] <fiyawerx_> i see the startkde session running if i do a ps -ef
[01:51] <fiyawerx_> its just nothing seems to be coming back to my client, it should pop up  awindow automatically right?
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> Are you using the nomachines key or your own generated keys ?
[01:52] <fiyawerx_> still nomachines, i thought that was only for auth?
[01:52] <fiyawerx_> and i also have it checked to send all data through the ssh
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> I couldn't get it to work at all with the nomachines key
[01:53] <fiyawerx_> hmm
[01:53] <fiyawerx_> let me re-run the nxsetup and choose not to
[01:55] <fiyawerx_> i should turn some logging on too
[01:59] <fiyawerx_> h3sp4wn: ok, reran setup, put new key in, same thing, it connects, i don't get anything after establishiing x session
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> I only ever used it with xfce
[02:01] <fiyawerx_> hm
[02:02] <fiyawerx_> might start with a fresh install again tonight when i get home
[02:02] <fiyawerx_> of kubuntu
[02:02] <fiyawerx_> i've been messing around changing all kinds of things trying to get this working hehe
[02:03] <SeanTater> artsd has some memory leak as is consuming 50% of available memory
[02:03] <SeanTater> how do I stop artsd on it's memory-hoarding rampage?!
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> disable the soundserver in sound and multimedia -> soundsystem
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> You most probably don't need it anyway
[02:10] <fiyawerx_> is there a way to make your machine log off or just restart X from the console?
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm/restart
[02:10] <fiyawerx_> h3sp4wn: thanks again
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:12] <mcrandello> anyone know how to set "Fn" key shortcuts in kde (laptop keyboard function key)
[02:13] <mcrandello> specifically the master volume up/down in "sound mixer" using Fn+up, FN+down
[02:13] <mcrandello> it's about the only thing Gnome had that KDE didn't :(
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> Hi all
[02:14] <Hagbard_Ub> Installing Kubuntu right now... :D
[02:16] <erov> yay
[02:16] <SeanTater> Hagbard_Ub: good
[02:17] <SeanTater> Hagbard_Ub: What brought you here?
[02:17] <fiyawerx_> so what makes you guys like KDE better than Gnome?
[02:17] <SeanTater> fiyawerx_: prettier, and more apps
[02:17] <erov> i like the apps and look
[02:17] <erov> too
[02:17] <erov> :p
[02:17] <fiyawerx_> yeah, me too really
[02:18] <fiyawerx_> i wish i wasn't stuck on this damn freenx app hehe
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> It runs faster usually I think - Was more alot more stable than gnome in the middle of dappers beta period
[02:18] <fiyawerx_> i could just use vnc, but im determined now
[02:18] <SeanTater> fiyawerx_: why do people use gnoma?
[02:18] <erov> especially amarok, kopete, konq and akgregator
[02:18] <fiyawerx_> SeanTater: no idea :) havn't asked them yet
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> You would probably get banned from #ubuntu for asking that
[02:18] <fiyawerx_> lol
[02:19] <SeanTater> I constantly boast of KDE's I/O system
[02:19] <fiyawerx_> I'm not looking forward to getting my sound card working, everything else has been sweet so far
[02:19] <erov> the last setback i had (hardware gl -- ati) has been solved.. so it's running top notch right now.. im very happy with kde (its the first time i really used a *nix desktop at home permanently)
[02:19] <Frederick> how can I add colour to my name@hostname in konsole?
[02:19] <fiyawerx_> the only other thing I can think of is I havn't found something that will auto-connect my wifi yet
[02:19] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: if re(.*why.*gnome), kick(flamewar)
[02:19] <fiyawerx_> I have to log in and hit it with wireless helper or whatever its called
[02:20] <mcrandello> erov: you got gl working?
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: Has that just actually happened ?
[02:20] <erov> yes.. all my options were correct.. i had neglected to install (or build) the actual KERNEL module
[02:20] <SeanTater> Frederick: i remember asking google, it's possible, but I don't remember exactly how
[02:20] <erov> fglrx
[02:20] <mcrandello> erov: oh
[02:21] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: Not that I have seen, but I could see it happening because of a flamewar
[02:21] <fiyawerx_> anyone use e17? i remmeber trying it out a few months ago and really thought it had potential
[02:21] <fiyawerx_> i just remembered about it tho
[02:21] <mcrandello> I'm still trying to figure out why the kernel module borks my USB modules, so far it seems to be a toshiba thing
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> SeanTater: So could I
[02:21] <SeanTater> h3sp4wn: some such stuff happens in forums
[02:21] <fiyawerx_> ok, i didn't get kicked
[02:22] <mcrandello> personally I like KDE because the configuration options are all still there and make sense
[02:22] <fiyawerx_> but told to ask in ubuntu off topic hehe
[02:22] <thechris> how do i force sudo
[02:22] <SeanTater> thechris: define
[02:22] <SeanTater> thechris: what do you want
[02:22] <thechris> for instance, sudo cat grub.conf >> menu.lst
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> That is pretty on topic I would say
[02:22] <thechris> permission denied
[02:22] <fiyawerx_> i thought so too
[02:22] <erov> i'd try gnome but i doubt my other machine could handle it.. it's running slackware.. but all im really going to run on it is fluxbox.. as it's a 433/64mb machine :p
[02:22] <thechris> doesn't even ask for a password
[02:22] <mcrandello> try sudo -i
[02:23] <SeanTater> thechris: that's because the redirect is not what sudo is doing
[02:23] <SeanTater> thechris: use tee instead
[02:23] <mcrandello> oh
[02:23] <Frederick> =/
[02:23] <mcrandello> sudo -i would probably work, then execute the command from root shell
[02:23] <thechris> eh, i'll just manually copy and paste...
[02:23] <SeanTater> thechris: do: sudo cat grub.conf | tee -a menu.lst
[02:23] <fiyawerx_> i think next time around im not going to use automatix either
[02:23] <fiyawerx_> gonna try to do stuff manually
[02:24] <thechris> |tee -a is just soo much shorter then >> ...
[02:24] <Fiyawerx> just realized i was fiyawerx_ hehe
[02:25] <Fiyawerx> I think i like this channel better than #ubuntu too :) so that's a reason
[02:25] <erov> oh one other annoyance and it's probably not kubuntu related.. but if i try to convert using KDE themed scripts or command line transcode/ffmpeg, etc. my xvid->dvd video is screwed up always.. like the length reporting and crap.. anyone else do xvid->mpeg 2 without any problems?
[02:26] <Fiyawerx> anyone else running on a hp media center pc?
[02:27] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: what's your issue w/ sound?
[02:28] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: oh, nothing yet, i havn't tried to get it working
[02:28] <crimsun> it doesn't work by default?
[02:28] <Fiyawerx> it didn't, no
[02:28] <azzco> h3sp4wn: Are you on 24/7 or something?
[02:28] <miguel> i hava edubuntu, my xp es broke down, i want to reinstall it but i don't know how to get my grub back
[02:28] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && lsmod && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> azzco: I don't sleep much
[02:29] <azzco> Hehe, me niether h3sp4wn.
[02:30] <Fiyawerx> !paste
[02:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:31] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16307
[02:32] <Fiyawerx> in windows its a Realtek High Definition audio driver
[02:32] <Fiyawerx> I won't be able to test anything right now, however
[02:32] <Fiyawerx> at home accessing via ssh from work
[02:32] <Fiyawerx> er.. at work i mean
[02:37] <Fiyawerx> is there a general package to install that installs things like make, gcc, etc..
[02:37] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: build-essential
[02:37] <erov> build-essential
[02:37] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: sec, looking
[02:37] <Fiyawerx> you guys rock, thanks again
[02:37] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: np, im stuck at work till 11 est
[02:38] <Fiyawerx> every time i try to do somethng and end up messing up, i feel like reinstalling the whole system, is there an easy way to make a backup so i don't have to keep doing that
[02:39] <mcrandello> okay xev + xmodmap didn't do anything for the volume controls :(
[02:41] <Mexandrew> Hello
[02:41] <mcrandello> and kmilo doesn't have anything for toshiba apparently
[02:41] <mcrandello> sup
[02:41] <Mexandrew> I've come here just to ask about the minimal requirements for kubuntu to run properly
[02:42] <Mexandrew> I've set up a dual-boot 98SE/kubuntu on my 1.4 GHz 423-pin Pentium
[02:42] <Mexandrew> with 128 MB of RAM
[02:42] <Mexandrew> it takes some time
[02:42] <mcrandello> I did it with a 1.2 Ghz processor and 512m ram with a Radeon 9000 pro
[02:42] <Mexandrew> but I wait patiently since I'm quite comfortable with kubuntu
[02:42] <mcrandello> you can turn off a lot of the kde eye candy stuff and it will speed things up a lot
[02:42] <Mexandrew> I see
[02:43] <Mexandrew> I wonder if the additional 128 MB of RAM I *may* get would help
[02:43] <erov> surely
[02:43] <Fiyawerx> I think it would
[02:43] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: amixer set 'Front Mic' off
[02:43] <erov> ram always helps :)
[02:43] <mcrandello> Like those popup balloons that slide across when you hover menu items, get rid of those
[02:43] <erov> especially at the lower end..
[02:43] <mcrandello> they turn into a powerpoint show with less than 512 megs
[02:43] <Mexandrew> it took me lots of hard work to get the chance of gett8ing this additional RAM
[02:43] <Mexandrew> since my machine uses RDRAM (Rambus)
[02:44] <Mexandrew> mcrandello: I'll check on that next time I boot kubuntu
[02:44] <erov> i really need more ram on mine.. it's a 2500+ amd athlon... only 512 though.. and its mostly used all the time
[02:44] <erov> runs fine though
[02:45] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: i will try that when i get home
[02:45] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: you think that one thing will help?
[02:45] <erov> my other stick of ram went bad.. it was causing seg faults and the like
[02:45] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: it the damn computer has like 500 audio jacks all over it hehe
[02:45] <mcrandello> Mexandrew: go into kcontrol, Apperance & Themes, Style
[02:45] <Mexandrew> erov: heh, how would you survive with my 1.4 GHz and only 128 MB of RAM, plus it's 98SE right now, and I use a lot of stuff?
[02:45] <mcrandello> Mexandrew: and then click the "effects" tab and uncheck that junk
[02:45] <erov> i would have to use another window manager
[02:46] <mcrandello> (not to say it's junk, it's pretty, just very expensive)
[02:46] <erov> ive got another machine.. a 433 p3/celeron with 64 mb of ram.. it runs slackware and fluxbox.. real minimalist.. but very fast on that setup
[02:46] <Mexandrew> erov: Luckily for me, I wrote a script to free memory when I need to
[02:46] <erov> cool
[02:46] <Mexandrew> mcrandello: I see ^-^
[02:46] <mcrandello> Also the "Toolbar" tab in style
[02:47] <mcrandello> get rid of that stuff on a slow machine
[02:47] <Mexandrew> erov: This script helps a lot, too bad it's a VBscript or whatever
[02:47] <mcrandello> Used to be when you installed KDE it would ask you whether you wanted it the first time you logged in
[02:48] <Mexandrew> I see, mcrandello
[02:48] <erov> wife runs kubuntu just fine on a 1066mhz/256mb ram setup and its exceptionally fast
[02:48] <erov> even with the eye candy
[02:48] <mcrandello> there's also the option of using something lightweight like xfce, which I think will run KDE apps just fine
[02:48] <Mexandrew> Anyway, for whoever works in kubuntu, keep it up, it's pretty user friendly, at least for me
[02:48] <erov> yeah isnt xfce a stripped down fork of kde or something like that?
[02:49] <Mexandrew> I wanted to venture into teh world that is Linux, kubuntu is really a nice tour guide
[02:49] <mcrandello> I thought it was a stripped UP fork of openstep :)
[02:49] <Fiyawerx> is it hard to resize partitions when not in the live cd installer? it works great there, but i got my numbers mixed up, and gave windows more than kubuntu
[02:49] <Fiyawerx> and i want to reverse it
[02:49] <james_xxx> ok i have a really dumb question... i am wanting to extract a .zip file to a floppy... how the heck do i do that?
[02:49] <erov> well whatever.. :P i dont know much 'bout it
[02:49] <mcrandello> james_xxx: do you have the floppy mounted?
[02:50] <Mexandrew> Well, see you all
[02:50] <mcrandello> later!
[02:50] <Mexandrew> thanks for your help ^-^
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: Is it an image ?
[02:50] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: no, not just one control element. You also need to unmute and increase 'Surround', 'Center', 'LFE', and 'Side', which are all muted and set to 0
[02:50] <james_xxx> mcrandello: when i try to mount it, it just tries to access the floppy for like a minute until i finally cancel
[02:50] <james_xxx> mcrandello: yes, it is an image
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: unzip it with unzip whatever.zip then write it to the floppy with dd
[02:51] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: right now i dont actually have a sound system plugged in, just headphones in the front headphone jack
[02:51] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: thanks ill try that
[02:51] <mcrandello> okay then problem number one, unfortunately I gave up on floppies years ago and tbh I'm not sure what the kubuntu way would be for that
[02:51] <crimsun> Fiyawerx: have you tried the rear speaker/headphone/line-out jack?
[02:51] <Fiyawerx> i think its promising that it even detected all the jacks
[02:52] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: nope, like i said didn't have much time to play with it, was just assuming it was going to be a hassle :)
[02:52] <Fiyawerx> crimsun: going to fresh install kubuntu again tonight and try to get freenx working first, then work on the rest
[02:52] <mcrandello> if it's an image though maybe unzip it then something like dd if=/path/your/file of=/dev/fd0
[02:54] <Fiyawerx> floppies, i don't even think my computer has a floppy drive, not sure lol
[02:55] <mcrandello> you may need to be root or something to write to the floppy, I forgot
[02:55] <mcrandello> so maybe "sudo dd if=file of=/dev/fd0"
[02:55] <mcrandello> just clicking on the zip in kubuntu should get you the goods, copy it to the folder of your choice
[02:56] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: i typed dd and nothing happened
[02:56] <mcrandello> "no 2880+0 records in" line followed by one saying "records out"?
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> james_xxx: what is the file called you need to write ?
[02:57] <james_xxx> h3sp4wn: three are several files that i am wanting to extract to the floppy
[02:57] <mcrandello> okay so not an image then? or several images and several floppies?
[02:57] <james_xxx> do i have to type out the file names?
[02:58] <james_xxx> mcrandello: ok, after the .zip file is extracted, there is one .ima file and three .htm files
[02:59] <mcrandello> I'm assuming here, the ima is the image file and the .htm are readmes that don't need to go on the floppy?
[02:59] <james_xxx> mcrandello: i dont know lol
[02:59] <mcrandello> anything important on the floppy at the moment?
[03:00] <james_xxx> mcrandello: no, new floppy
[03:00] <mcrandello> okay then in xterm or konsole..
[03:00] <dunno_dru> join ## anything
[03:00] <dunno_dru> sorry
[03:01] <mcrandello> dd if=youfilename.ima of=/dev/fd0
[03:01] <DrBair> !restrictedformats
[03:01] <james_xxx> mcrandello: thank you
[03:01] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:01] <mcrandello> you may need to change to the dir the files in
[03:02] <mcrandello> when it works you'll see 2880+0 records in followed by 2880+0 records out (or some other numbers)
[03:02] <Chris_Tucker> where are amarok user settings stored?
[03:03] <mcrandello> .kde/share/apps/amarok/
[03:03] <mcrandello> looks like a lot of xml files in there
[03:06] <[Tr3] > Hello! where is the FAQ in the live CD installer???
[03:07] <[Tr3] > I need to unmount the drives to partition
[03:07] <KuLover> Why is it that when I am booting, it stoped at checking filesystems, switches to text mode and goes abotu like nothing is wrong?
[03:07] <apokryphos> [Tr3] : so unmount them :P
[03:08] <apokryphos> [Tr3] : in the terminal: sudo umount /mount/point
[03:08] <mcrandello> KuLover: were there fat32 partitions in fstab? I had to change mine to get it to stop trying to fsk them
[03:08] <Chris_Tucker> mcrandello, not quite... theres stuff in there, but more specifically i want to delete my collection list... its full of links to missing files
[03:08] <[Tr3] > well thats why i want the *** faq i cant figure it out on my own
[03:08] <Chris_Tucker> mcrandello, all that folder contained were actual settings, not collection info
[03:09] <mcrandello> the playlistbrowser_save.xml wasn't it?
[03:09] <Chris_Tucker> mcrandello, thats just that, a playlist browser.. not collection
[03:10] <Chris_Tucker> oh wait, i think this uses sql or something... how do i access the sql tables?
[03:10] <mcrandello> collection.db?
[03:10] <mcrandello> if that's not it I'm all out of ideas :(
[03:10] <[Tr3] > ok this is wierd. the drives are unmounted but i can se them in /media and i cant partition them in QTparted
[03:10] <mcrandello> rename it collection.buttes and see if that helps
[03:10] <KuLover> mcrandello, no just reiserfs's.
[03:11] <KuLover> mcrandello, May I send you my fstab? Maybe to check if it is written correctly? You know through one of those text sites?
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> mcrandello, aha, i get it now, ive been thinking it hasnt been deleteing the old stuff, but really when it loads it searches my home folder on start for folders with playable files and adds them
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> thanks!
[03:13] <mcrandello> Chris_Tucker: glad it worked :)
[03:13] <[Tr3] > Can anyone tell my why QTparted says the drives are mounted when i try to partition when they arent. even umount says they arent mounted
[03:13] <andrisp> hello all, i have a problem with kde - when i open some video file from Konqueror with mplayer at first Konqueror opens two instances of mplayer, when close them Konqueror popups error 'KDEinit could not launch gmplayer' .. why is that ?
[03:13] <mcrandello> KuLover: I'll take a look at it but I'll probably wind up scratching my head, use a pastbin so everyone can see it :)
[03:21] <mcrandello> what happen?
[03:21] <KuLover> Pastebin is still uploading.. sighh
[03:22] <mcrandello> got quiet there for a bit :)
[03:23] <KuLover> http://pastebin.ca/69513
[03:23] <KuLover> There she is.
[03:24] <Fiyawerx> just in case anyone new is around, has anyone gotten freenx working with kubuntu dapper yet?
[03:24] <Fiyawerx> w
[03:25] <KuLover> mcrandello, I added the last four myself.
[03:25] <KuLover> I used tab to space the sections, should I not have?
[03:25] <azzco> I'm having a bit of problem watching a divx film
[03:25] <azzco> does anyone know how to get kaffein or something to play divx?
[03:26] <crimsun> azzco: did you install w32codecs on an ia32 system?
[03:26] <mcrandello> KuLover: tab should work as well as any whitespace
[03:26] <azzco> not sure I found a post on kubuntu forums with a long string of codes with codecs...
[03:27] <azzco> I think that I got the w32codecs to work
[03:27] <mcrandello> KuLover: and you already set dump/pass to 0 0, at some point you may want to fsk them manually once in a while but that was the problem with my win32 partitions, they had 0 1 in there
[03:28] <mcrandello> does the kernel find them somewhere other than /dev/sd* though at first?
[03:29] <KuLover> mcrandello, It just switched to text mode when checking filesystems, then doesnt say anything besides [ok] . Is that what it did for you? or did it run the check?
[03:29] <KuLover> mcrandello, I'm not sure..
[03:30] <mcrandello> it gave an error, my external HD was /dev/sda and it found it somewhere else at first /dev/somewhereNOTsda
[03:31] <azzco> sorry got some problems here I don't knwo why but kubuntu freezes sometimes
[03:31] <mcrandello> and it was fsck.dos giving the error
[03:32] <KuLover> I see... Yeah, my problem is a tad different.
[03:32] <mcrandello> try using <ctrl><Alt><F1> through like <F3> I think one of the consoles gives extra boot information
[03:33] <mcrandello> when it does that
[03:33] <azzco> I'll remember that ;)
[03:38] <mike___> so far when using adept, i fetch updates and haven't gotten anything back and no changes are to be made. Is it possible that all the packages on my system are that up-tp-date?
[03:41] <mcrandello> \
[03:41] <mcrandello> |
[03:41] <mcrandello> sorry, wiping up a coffee spill
[03:41] <mike___> lol
[03:41] <mcrandello> in a related note is it okay to remove a laptop battery while it's on AC power?
[03:42] <mike___> should be, depends really on the laptop
[03:43] <mike___> for instance i used to have one that the ac cord actually plugged into the battery module
[03:43] <mcrandello> thank got for rubber feet and the vent being on the other side
[03:43] <mike___> :)
[03:45] <mike___> luv how tucows recognises i am using linux and takes me right to the linux areas instead of winblowz
[03:50] <mcrandello> another dumb question: anyone manage to get the ritz disposable camera working in kamera?
[03:51] <mike___> never tried
[04:04] <dunno_dru>  #warzone
[04:06] <mcrandello> ah it works, typing camera:/ in konquerer brought it up like a filesystem
[04:06] <mcrandello> they oughta make that a shortcut on the desktop like other usb filesystems
[04:09] <Nirvana> any technical people in here? preferably someone who knows amsn/tcltls well?
[04:13] <KuLover> Would someone mind checking my fstab to see that it is written correctly?
[04:24] <erik__> I have something called "gam_server" running, which is sucking up a lot of CPU resources and it's not killable, because when I kill it a new process of it starts instantly. what is it?
[04:29] <mcrandello> erik__: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/
[04:30] <erik__> mcrandello: can I disable it someway? ..because it's really cpu hungry, and I've seen a lot of complaints from people all over the net on the same issue now
[04:31] <mcrandello> erik__: maybe...
[04:32] <mcrandello> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-97024.html
[04:32] <mcrandello> that shows how to disableit from monitoring any ntfs volumes.
[04:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> muahahahahahahahahahahahahah
[04:43] <crimsun> roit.
[04:44] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun
[04:44] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> whats up man
[04:44] <crimsun> .oO( a ceiling )
[04:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what do you know about that jakd app
[04:45] <Fiyawerx> hey guys is there generally a list of things you go through and install first after a fresh install?
[04:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yeah , install fglrx , and uninstall all the apps i dont need
[04:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> then get some nice mouse icon and system icon themes
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> Only libxine-extracodecs - usually fglrx after the first time - the radeon driver with dri working crashes
[04:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> and a wallpaper
[04:47] <crimsun> jackd, you mean?
[04:47] <Fiyawerx> what about that xgl/compiz thing? anyone running that?
[04:47] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yes , jackd , i installed it but i dont even know how to start it ar if it works ,
[04:48] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ok, let's start with "why do you want to use jackd?"
[04:48] <Bassetts> can a kind of, one-disc-for-all install dvd be made for (X)(K)Ubuntu ??
[04:49] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: the other buddy in here saud it has an independent eualizer , thats really the only reason i want it , because i was looking for a EQ app that works independently
[04:50] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: err, there are plugins that can do that, but that's not a real reason to use jackd imo
[04:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> xgl/compiz is nice but very unstable on kde with fglrx, alpha software
[04:51] <Fiyawerx> ah, im not familiar with fglrx
[04:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: well , the amarok has a built in eq but it really sucks, im trying to find something that works directly with the audio driver
[04:52] <Fiyawerx> you need that for nvidia cards too? have a geforce 6600 gt pci-e
[04:52] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: that's hardware-dependent.
[04:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Fiyawerx: fglrx is the ati driver
[04:52] <Fiyawerx> oh
[04:52] <Fiyawerx> so that works then, won't have to worry about that with compiz
[04:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> crimsun: ok , do u know of any eqs i could try?
[04:53] <Fiyawerx> i need to find out how to make a good backup or anything, i hate messing up and starting from scratch
[04:54] <crimsun> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: not really, perhaps some ladspa/ecasound ones
[04:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> well , what i like about linux is that you can pretty much fix everything that is broken through the command login
[04:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> as long as you know whats broken and how to fix it
[04:55] <Fiyawerx> yeah, i just hate the feeling that im forgetting some piece of unused program that i installed and don't know how to get rid of is sitting out there misconfigured somewhere
[04:56] <Fiyawerx> like i installed so many things manually and via apt-get to try to get freenx working i prob. couldn't remove them all if i wanted to
[04:56] <RobNyc> is the 686 kernel faster/better than the 386 kernel ?
[04:56] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> you can remove unused libs by running debfoster
[04:57] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> make sure you dont remove things that you need or dont know what they are, its easy to use thoug
[04:57] <Fiyawerx> oh, interesting
[04:57] <Fiyawerx> so is it not worth making a backup of a clean install?
[04:57] <painttt> do any 1 facing program crashing in kubuntu?
[04:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> you can do a backup if you want ,
[04:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> but better to learn how to fix stuff you are about to brake
[04:58] <Fiyawerx> hehe
[04:58] <Fiyawerx> true too
[05:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ive been only using linux for a few days , but its fun learning how to use it
[05:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ive spent like a whole day trying to figure out software raid setup
[05:01] <Fiyawerx> you using wifi?
[05:01] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i have wifi , but no linux that uses it
[05:01] <Fiyawerx> oops, it's 11, work's out, i'll catch you guys later
[05:01] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> later
[05:05] <bsingh> could ne one help me with installing firefox plugins using apt-get..I'm new to linux
[05:06] <farous> bsingh: which plugin
[05:06] <bsingh> real player
[05:06] <farous> do you have realplayer downloaded
[05:06] <farous> did you install it
[05:06] <bsingh> yes
[05:07] <bsingh> yes
[05:07] <farous> ok open the folder RealPlayer/mozilla
[05:07] <bsingh> mozilla somehow still doesn't play the songs online..it gives a msg for missing pluggins
[05:08] <farous> copy everything there to .mozilla/plugins
[05:10] <farous> bsingh: after that close firefox and open it again
[05:13] <bsingh> hey thnx..I'm a little slow..still trying to figure things out
[05:14] <farous> no prob take your time
[05:18] <farous> maikol spaming is the best way to get kicked out
[05:18] <dr_willis> wowsers.
[05:20] <SeanTater> farous: wrong channel for that nick] 
[05:20] <thompa> how do i get external monitor on notebook working
[05:20] <farous> yah i just noticed that :)
[05:20] <farous> SeanTater: sorry am restoring the sys
[05:20] <thompa> i have nvidia go6200 for moible unit
[05:21] <SeanTater> farous: that's fine
[05:21] <SeanTater> thompa: you'd have better luck ata  busier channel, like #ubuntu
[05:21] <thompa> is there something for twinview
[05:21] <thompa> i mean in xorg.conf
[05:22] <thompa> im checking system settings
[05:22] <SeanTater> thompa: I;m sure there is
[05:22] <SeanTater> thompa: how, I do not know
[05:23] <thompa> i found display settings in system settings and nvidia-settings from console
[05:23] <thompa> i think im alright
[05:25] <thompa> there is a monitor 1 and 2 configuration, im utting a westinghouse 1440x900
[05:25] <thompa> size is interesting cause i can have 2 docs open full size
[05:26] <bsingh> farous: the realplayer did start up..but its been loading for a while..and still doesn't play
[05:27] <thompa> how did you install it, from website?
[05:28] <thompa> for me only going to realone.com worked
[05:29] <thompa> you only had to add sudo or you would not get the symbolic user links
[05:45] <bytewalker> can anyone help me out with setting up wireless on my laptop here? its a broadcom wireless bcm4306
[05:47] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[05:47] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[05:47] <Hobbsee> bytewalker: i'm not good with broadcoms sorry, but i think there's a howot there
[05:48] <Hawkwind> bytewalker: If you have a wireless card with a Broadcomm chipset in it and wish to use Ubuntu or one of its derivatives then you need to look at the following page on how to get your wireless card working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:53] <method|> when will the new kde get added to the universal repos?
[05:53] <Hawkwind> What new KDE ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> 'when its done' :P
[05:53] <Hawkwind> 3.5.3 is already available
[05:53] <dr_willis> 4.0.0 i am guessing
[05:54] <Hawkwind> There will be 3.5.4 long before there's 4.0.0
[05:54] <dr_willis> 3.5.9999999
[05:54] <Hawkwind> LOL
[05:54] <Hawkwind> dr_willis: You probably forgot a few 9's :P
[05:54] <dr_willis> 3.5.9999999 and  a half!
[05:55] <method|> 3.5.3 isn't in my repos
[05:55] <method|> all 3.5.2
[05:55] <Hawkwind> method|: It's in multiverse maybe
[05:55] <dunno_dru> click manage repositorys
[05:55] <Hawkwind> method|: 3.5.3 was put into Dapper on June 1st
[05:55] <dunno_dru> then select and enable
[05:57] <point3r> hi all... how can I check the which COM/Serial ports I have available? I am using a USB to Seril converter that has been detected, and I need to know what device represents it.. can anyone help?
[05:59] <method|> i have multiverse enabled
[05:59] <mcrandello> point3r: lshw |less
[05:59] <method|> kde .3 still isn't in there tho
[05:59] <method|> wierd
[05:59] <mcrandello> you'll probably see a device string from your device in there somewhere
[06:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[06:02] <point3r> mcrandello: thanks.. ive checked Serial converter does show up but dosent tell me which /dev/tty???
[06:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> use that repo for new kde
[06:03] <orient2000> I downloaded some .avi file from gnutella but is seems to be microsoft coded .avi  I can not Burn it to DVD. It says samething about coding. Is there any converter I could use? thanks for attention. Have a nice day. James.
[06:04] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> orient2000:  u need a codec to play it , as far s burning it to dvd , it should burn no matter what it is , use a better burning app
[06:06] <dr_willis> ive seen some video files from the torrents/sites (porn mainly) that rewquire a special codec from the porn (or other) sites..
[06:06] <ChefWill> !paste
[06:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:06] <orient2000> I use K3b. What is better? I do not see anything else around.
[06:06] <point3r> mcrandello: got it... its aparently /dev/ttyUSB0 :)
[06:06] <mcrandello> point3r: glad you did
[06:06] <dr_willis> those  get deleted real fast. :P
[06:06] <mcrandello> I was about stumped
[06:06] <point3r> mcrandello: thanks for help!
[06:07] <mcrandello> happy to be of any use at all :)
[06:07] <mcrandello> later gang, shift's over!
[06:07] <ChefWill> anyone help me figure out what the issue is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16313   i have latest autoconf
[06:07] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> orient2000:  unless u creating a video dvd, then it wont let u burn it because you need the vob files for the dvd video, k3b is the best burning app for linux i think
[06:08] <bytewalker> how can i get my retarded laptop to stop shutting down because it thinks its overheating?
[06:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> bytewalker: drop it out of the 10th floor window
[06:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> bytewalker: check the bios for shutdown temperatures?
[06:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> bytewalker: put arctic silver under the heatsink?
[06:11] <dunno_dru> there was this other trick.....a glass of water evenly spread across the base of the overturned laptop
[06:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> that would cool it off
[06:12] <dunno_dru> i thot ur cpu was overclocking
[06:18] <orient2000> I said yes to all in settings and it is burning.  i will have to analise it. Thanks.
[06:26] <ChefWill> anyone happen to know package(s) for X includes?
[06:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ChefWill: if you want to know all the packages that belong to x
[06:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ChefWill: install debfoster and run it from command line
[06:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> just dont press N , keep pressing Y
[06:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ChefWill: it removes unwanted libs , but also lists all the libs that belong to the programs
[06:32] <BlankB> ChefWill: There is also a program called apt-file that can be useful to see which packages own what files: apt-cache show apt-file
[06:33] <bobstro> hmm. is it normal for a chess engine (gnuchess or phalanx) to consume 94% CPU, even when not moving?
[06:34] <emonkey> 94% of what for cpu?
[06:34] <emonkey> 94% on which cpu?
[06:34] <dunno_dru> cpu usage
[06:35] <bobstro> cpu utilization, as shown in top
[06:35] <emonkey> sorry, my english is poor... I mean how fast is your cpu
[06:35] <bobstro> emonkey:  athlon xp 2400+.
[06:36] <dunno_dru> no way
[06:36] <emonkey> oh...k...
[06:36] <dunno_dru> is it just now or has it happened before
[06:36] <emonkey> maybe they analyze some possible next steps, but I don't know...
[06:37] <dunno_dru> try restart
[06:37] <bobstro> well, i've played various chess programs with those engines for years with no problems. this is a fresh kubuntu install 6.06 with knights as front-end.
[06:37] <BlankB> dunno_dru: Which application is it. I will try running it and see if I get the same results.
[06:37] <bobstro> knights, with either engine (gnuchess or phalanx)
[06:40] <bobstro> i'm getting same thing with eboard as front-end, so it's the chess engine it seems. 90+% even when it's MY turn.
[06:41] <BlankB> bobstro: Its using 100% cpu but its still thinking about its move...its been thinking for 2 minutes now. Ill let you know when its my turn again.
[06:43] <bobstro> BlankB:  i've played with no problems on older systems. this is making my system unusable. strange.
[06:46] <BlankB> It never did make its move...it stopped it... But even though i have exited knights there is a gnuchess instance running in the background eating 100% cpu.
[06:47] <BlankB> bobstro: there are 3 running all chewing as much cpu as they can. I will have to kill -9 them
[06:49] <RobNyc> http://getswiftfox.com/
[06:52] <se7en> hey everyone i'm trying to connect to my linux box form my windows box using vnc how would i do that??????????????????????????????
[06:53] <bobstro> BlankB:  yeah, i see same thing. this is definitely *not* how these programs worked in the past!
[06:53] <BlankB> se7en: K -> Internet -> Krbf
[06:53] <BlankB> bobstro: have you checked the bug db yet?
[06:53] <se7en> isn't that the remote desktop utility???/
[06:55] <BlankB> se7en: I thought that was wat you asked...maby the dozens of ? marks threw me off.
[06:55] <se7en> indeed
[06:55] <nikkun> can someone help me with this error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/726809 i get it everytime i ./configure
[06:56] <se7en> so i should just run "krbf" form the commandline?
[06:56] <BlankB> se7en: I dont know. I am not clear what you are trying to accomplish.
[06:56] <se7en> i'm trying to remote into my linux box form my windows box using a vnc client
[06:57] <se7en> what sofware do i need on my linux box
[06:57] <se7en> is that more clear?
[06:57] <se7en> or no?
[06:57] <BlankB> se7en: K -> Internet -> Krbf
[06:57] <se7en> ok
[06:57] <se7en> now i'm not clear what your trying to tell me. i need to search the internet for krbf?
[06:58] <se7en> or no?
[06:58] <BlankB> K is the equivalent of a windows start button. by default it is in the lower left hand corner of your desktop.
[06:58] <se7en> ah
[06:58] <se7en> sorry
[06:58] <Hobbsee> !info gobby
[06:58] <ubotu> gobby: collaborative text editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 464 kB, installed size 1628 kB
[07:00] <awbassett> I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop from Ubuntu, and its bombing out on kdegraphics-kfile-plugins... I've checked launchpad for this bug but there isn't anything filed against kdegraphics. Is this known, or should I file a bug?
[07:00] <awbassett> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop yields the error, no work is done
[07:00] <unix_infidel> anyone know how i can bind a flux keybind to allow for a click action RIGHT BELOW where the current cursor is located.
[07:02] <GullyFoyle> unix_infidel: mebbe you should ask in #fluxbox
[07:02] <unix_infidel> GullyFoyle: its not fluxbox related.
[07:02] <unix_infidel> its xorg related.
[07:03] <GullyFoyle> ? what is a flux keybind?
[07:03] <unix_infidel> GullyFoyle: a fluxbox keybind.
[07:03] <unix_infidel> but that's inconsequential, the actual program executed is non-fluxbox related.
[07:03] <GullyFoyle> ah
[07:03] <TheHighChild> Is it possible to embed Konversation into Kopete? I don't like Kopete's IRC format
[07:04] <Hobbsee> TheHighChild: not really. just run konversation?
[07:04] <bytewalker> !wifi
[07:04] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[07:04] <TheHighChild> Hobbsee: I usually do, was hoping to save some resources and keyboard shortcuts
[07:05] <TheHighChild> alrighty then, thanks
[07:05] <ChefWill> Hobbsee: my wifi is working now with iwconfig and dhclient, knetworkmanager shows wireless networks now and it seems sometimes shows a bogusnetwork
[07:05] <unix_infidel> anyone for the keybind click question?
[07:06] <OrgulloKmoore> can I get some help configuring my sound?
[07:06] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: yay :)
[07:06] <OrgulloKmoore> I hear none
[07:06] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ping
[07:06] <ChefWill> Hobbsee: i just neeed to find out how to get it to work in knetworkmanager
[07:06] <Hobbsee> OrgulloKmoore: is it all turned up in alsamixer?
[07:06] <OrgulloKmoore> I've just come to Kubuntu from Windows
[07:06] <OrgulloKmoore> Hobbsee: yes
[07:07] <Hobbsee> OrgulloKmoore: crimsun is the sound expert
[07:07] <Hobbsee_> darn, he's marked as away
[07:08] <OrgulloKmoore> ah, I got it
[07:08] <OrgulloKmoore> some one should change the default mixer...
[07:08] <OrgulloKmoore> up is down and down is up
[07:12] <ChefWill> !ssj
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about ssj
[07:12] <Hobbsee> crimsun: unping.
[07:12] <Hobbsee> !ssh
[07:12] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:12] <ChefWill> !ssh
[07:12] <Chozabu> !beep
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about beep
[07:12] <Chozabu> aww
[07:14] <robotgeek> Chozabu: man beep?
[07:15] <awbassett> bmp?
[07:15] <Chozabu> naah, i know beep (beep -f500 -l 500)
[07:15] <Chozabu> i jsut wanted to see if uboto know XD
[07:15] <Chozabu> thanks for replying though!
[07:15] <Chozabu> needs a space after f...
[07:18] <bytewalker> !wifi
[07:18] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[07:20] <TheHighChild> Any Kopete users here/
[07:21] <Hobbsee> TheHighChild: yeah
[07:22] <TheHighChild> Hobbsee: I've always used Gaim but wanted to try Kopete. I am having two things I hate. 1: THe blue faces beside everyones name. and I can't change the order of the lists. Any ideas or solutions?
[07:22] <TheHighChild> ugh! They're terrible
[07:23] <TheHighChild> Kind of creepy
[07:24] <TheHighChild> It's got some very cool options though, themese, etc.
[07:24] <Hobbsee> cant change the order of the lists...maybe something in behaviour, i'm not really sure
[07:27] <burepe1> I installed banshee and I want to add some plugins. I am lookin at the plugin page and it has some urls. Can I add these plugins using the urls with apt-get? If not how do I do it?
[07:30] <Hobbsee> !netsplit > antinobody
[07:30] <burepe1> oops I installed banshee and I want to add some plugins. I am lookin at the plugin page and it has some urls. Can I add these plugins using the urls with apt-get? If not how do I do it?  Here is the page wth the plug ins http://www.banshee-project.org/Plugins
[07:32] <bytewalker> okok guys i followed the whole howto on setting up my broadcom wireles
[07:32] <bytewalker> ndiswrapper -l says driver present, hardware present
[07:32] <bytewalker> but ifup eth1 still says send+packet: network is down
[07:33] <bytewalker> i already did ifdown eth0 (ethernet) too
[07:33] <bytewalker> HELP!@??
[07:34] <bytewalker> AHH CRAP
[07:35] <robotgeek> bytewalker: yes
[07:36] <Hobbsee> !gpg
[07:36] <robotgeek> bytewalker: the native driver does not work for you? have you turned off ethenet?
[07:36] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[07:37] <Ertain> Might anyone know how I can do "dual out" with my video card?  I have a nVidia GeForce FX 5500 and I'm using Dapper Drake.
[07:40] <emonkey> !nvidia
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <word> Ertain: On nvidias website they have their own drivers so i assume since it's their drivers you'll be able to do it with them just follow the link above ^
[07:42] <word> Is there a way to run a 'repair install' ? some things are messed up on my install such as evms won't start.
[07:43] <noiesmo> word, sudo apt-get -f install or reinstall the app thats broke by sudo apt-get install --reinstall appname
[07:43] <word> i've tried that several times and it doesn't fix it.
[07:43] <word> it gives me a buffer error...even though according to several programs i've run to check my hd my hd is fine
[07:44] <noiesmo> word, check your home folder for a dot appname maybe move it and start app again
[07:44] <word> noiesmo: It's not an app evms = Enterprise Volume Manager System
[07:44] <word> management*
[07:45] <noiesmo> word, O hmm sorry not sure then
[07:45] <ChefWill> anyone have their knetworkmanaer detect weird networks like #WIRE###
[07:45] <ChefWill> where # is a random number
[07:45] <Hobbsee> !ssh
[07:45] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:45] <ChefWill> you instlaling ssh too?
[07:46] <Hobbsee> i dont know...if i need a ssh key, then i'll probably need to get that signed as well as my gpg key...
[07:48] <antinobody> I've heard of key signing
[07:48] <antinobody> I thought it was a myth
[07:48] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: i tend to use ssh to sign into another guy's computer, with webserver access - not th eother way around
[07:48] <Hobbsee> antinobody: no, it gets done
[07:53] <nixternal> !dist-upgrade
[07:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about dist-upgrade
[07:53] <nixternal> ~upgrade
[07:53] <nixternal> !upgrade
[07:53] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades. Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: nice, generated :)
[07:55] <ChefWill> ?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: ssh key
[07:58] <ChefWill> what?
[07:58] <Hobbsee> !upgrade > nixternal
[08:01] <lowtech> anyone heard any good news about printer detection in Dapper?
[08:02] <bobstro> Hobbsee:  i'm not aware of ssh keys being signed.
[08:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, seems like they arent...which is odd.
[08:03] <Hobbsee> maybe they trust us based on the GPG key.
[08:03] <bobstro> Hobbsee:  well, they're not public key, so the "web of trust" doesn't apply so much.
[08:03] <bobstro> Hobbsee:  erm, you mean relative to ssh?
[08:04] <Hobbsee> bobstro: true
[08:04] <Hobbsee> probably
[08:04] <Hobbsee> i'm not *that* familiar with ssh - i only ssh into another guy's box
[08:05] <bobstro> Hobbsee:  i should say, "not used in same way as pgp keys".
[08:06] <Hobbsee> true
[08:07] <word> e2fsck -c /dev/hda1 - Doing that in say recovery console will check the first partition for bad secotrs and add them to the bad sectors list correct?
[08:08] <lowtech> why is it that the more advanced linux gets, the worse printer detection/setup becomes? seems i've noticed this in other distro's too.
[08:09] <bobstro> lowtech:  probably corresponds to printers becoming more software-driven and proprietary in the same period.
[08:09] <HedgeMage> lowtech: I've had good luck with HPs... they release drivers under a BSD license so they are open and actively supported by both the community and HP
[08:10] <lowtech> hm, didn't think of that. but the same printers that worked in previous versions of distro's worked much better
[08:10] <HedgeMage> lowtech: I've also had great luck with Lexmark laser printers, but atrocious luck with their inkjets and all-in-ones
[08:10] <lowtech> HedgeMage: only Epsons here. heh
[08:10] <HedgeMage> never had an epson
[08:10] <HedgeMage> there's always linuxprinting.org to keep track, though
[08:11] <lowtech> thanks HedgeMage, forgot about that.
[08:11] <HedgeMage> np
[08:12] <word> My hp printers work fine and my only problem setting up my network printer was by default it looked at teh wrong ip
[08:12] <emonkey> I've got Canon, hard but it's possible to install it
[08:12] <emonkey> especially the PIXMA IP4000
[08:13] <emonkey> it works only with an unofficial driver from the japanes canon website
[08:14] <emonkey> s/website/ftp
[08:14] <word> e2fsck -c /dev/hda1 - Doing that in say recovery console will check the first partition for bad secotrs and add them to the bad sectors list correct?
[08:15] <bobstro> lowtech:  the trick is to buy hardware (not just printers) that's properly supported (and support-able). not always possible, but the easiest way.
[08:15] <lowtech> both my Epsons showed (parallel and USB) but then at 'test' it no longer recognizes them
[08:15] <bobstro> word:  per the manpage, yes.
[08:16] <lowtech> don't bash me, but both Epsons work under Mandriva. I can only guess it's a dapper issue right now.
[08:17] <emonkey> that can be... cups-pdf doesn't work properly too under dapper
[08:17] <word> bobstro: Ok thanks just wanted to make doubly sure so I don't mess something up
[08:18] <lowtech> hope they figure it out soon, i want to move away from Mandriva, but i need printing. heh
[08:18] <word> Get a new printer? :P
[08:18] <lowtech> nah, these are good printers and should work when dapper works out the issue
[08:20] <Melchiorre> has anyone tried using printer servers on dapper, or do they need the printer drivers anyway?
[08:21] <lowtech> you mean like the Cups printer server?
[08:21] <Melchiorre> I was thinking more like hardware printer servers
[08:21] <Melchiorre> for networks
[08:22] <lowtech> hm, i don't know but its an interesting question/topic
[08:23] <Melchiorre> mmmm
[08:24] <tuxcicles> i kant get my usb printer to work fer sheat
[08:25] <solid_liq> anyone know how to set the sizes of columns in an html table?
[08:26] <Melchiorre> <td width="6px">
[08:28] <elverion> i have a second NTFS drive that i would like to automatically be mounted when i log in with my user account. is this possible and/or easy to do?
[08:29] <Melchiorre> elverion: do you mean not mounted at boot?
[08:29] <elverion> well, whatever works, really.
[08:29] <Ertain> Hello once again, everyone.  I can't seem to start my screensaver.  It will start up when I test it, but even after the alloted time (five minutes), it doesn't start up.  I have Kscreensaver and Xscreensaver stuff installed.  I've also tried other screensavers, but they don't work either.
[08:29] <elverion> i'd just like to not have to mount the HD manually every time i boot my computer
[08:31] <Melchiorre> elverion: it's easiest to wing it into your /etc/fstab file. Put this line in: /dev/hdb1 /media/WinXP    ntfs umask=0222,uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,user 0 0
[08:32] <exceswater> hi all
[08:32] <exceswater> good morning
[08:32] <Melchiorre> elverion: just replace  /dev/hdb1 with the location of your partition, and /media/WinXP with where you want to mount it
[08:32] <Melchiorre> hello exceswater
[08:33] <elverion> alright, give me a second
[08:33] <Melchiorre> Ertain: are there any programs running that might be keeping the screensaver from starting? (Like movies playing, or games running)
[08:33] <exceswater> i have a question guys
[08:33] <exceswater> i burned a cd this morning
[08:34] <Melchiorre> well done :-P
[08:34] <exceswater> for my mp3 player ... from the car
[08:34] <exceswater> and it was not full
[08:34] <exceswater> so i had not finished the session
[08:34] <exceswater> and some mp3 just don't play
[08:35] <exceswater> could be that car mp3 player won't recognize unfinished cd's
[08:35] <exceswater> ???
[08:36] <Melchiorre> exceswater: quite likely. do the mp3's that won't play in the car appear when you put the cd in your computer?
[08:37] <elverion> ah, great, it works perfectly Melchiorre! thanks a lot
[08:37] <exceswater> yes
[08:37] <exceswater> :D
[08:37] <exceswater> and they play
[08:37] <exceswater> :D
[08:37] <elverion> although i don't quite know what all those options and such were for
[08:37] <exceswater> i will copy cd on my pc
[08:37] <exceswater> and burn it again... and finish session
[08:37] <exceswater> :D
[08:37] <exceswater> but what can i use to burn cd in kubuntu... i am new
[08:37] <Melchiorre> elverion: no worries ;)
[08:38] <elverion> now, another question...i have a geforce 6200A card. previously, with other linux distros, i've had some pretty rough times getting it to work smoothly. what exactly do i need to do?
[08:38] <elverion> just change the drivers?
[08:38] <Melchiorre> elverion: I'm not sure of all of them either, but some were for setting up permission so that all users could see the files, not just root
[08:40] <exceswater> is there an option to close session ?
[08:41] <Melchiorre> exceswater: not sure if it's istalled by default but the best burning program for  KDE is K3B
[08:44] <exceswater> ok
[08:44] <exceswater> found it
[08:44] <exceswater> 10x
[08:45] <elverion> you found it 10 times? lucky you.
[08:45] <`6og> lol file a bug ;)
[08:46] <exceswater> no ...
[08:46] <exceswater> 10x is ten x : thanks
[08:46] <exceswater> very funny elverion
[08:46] <exceswater> really funny
[08:46] <Melchiorre> lol
[08:47] <Ertain> Oops, sorry Melchiorre.  No, there's nothing that is stopping the screensaver from working.  I might have Azureus going, but I doubt that stops it.
[08:47] <exceswater> you saw this on comedy central ?
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> good morning everyone
[08:48] <Melchiorre> elverion: 'sudo apt-get install nVIDIA-glx' installs the geforce drivers, then you need to configure x to use them
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey exceswater! Got Wolf ET running yet?
[08:48] <elverion> ah, alright.
[08:48] <exceswater> not yet mate
[08:48] <exceswater> it's downloading :d
[08:48] <elverion> i remember trying to do it with gentoo, but for some reason it turned out being much more complicated than it needed to be
[08:49] <exceswater> i am working now :D
[08:49] <exceswater> preparing to leave the office :D
[08:49] <Melchiorre> elverion: I haven't tried it, because I have a radeon, but it's supposed to be easy...
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Since I am still struggling with my wireless network, how can I determine if this (http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Linux_Wireles_LAN) might work?
[08:50] <stallion88> hi everybody, does someone knows if i can play my music and see my files allocated on the ntfs??
[08:50] <MilhousePunkRock> yes you can, you need some tools for it though
[08:50] <Melchiorre> stallion88: yes you can, but you can't write to the partition
[08:50] <`6og> stallion88: yes, but you shouldnt /write/ to ntfs
[08:51] <elverion> writing to NTFS is possible, it's just experimental. right?
[08:51] <stallion88> yeah i know is just to watch movies/play music.. ect
[08:51] <stallion88> how can i do that??
[08:51] <`6og> elverion: yes
[08:51] <NKjoep> hi ppl
[08:51] <elverion> just mount the drive like any other
[08:51] <`6og> !ntfs
[08:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> mount your NTFS partition
[08:54] <lowtech> elverion: looks like i did,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:55] <NKjoep> i installed yesterday kubuntu 6.06... why i cant install mozilla firefox from adept installer ? firefox stands gray :\
[08:55] <elverion> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox?
[08:56] <Melchiorre> MilhousePunkRock: what wireless card do you have? I followed the howto on the Ubuntu forums for my specific card (Netgear) and that worked for me...
[08:56] <|lostbyte|> Goodmorning..
[08:56] <lowtech> probably needs sources added
[08:56] <elverion> lowtech: the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable portion modifies your X-config to use the nvidia drivers?
[08:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Now it gets a little complicated, Melchiorre
[08:56] <|lostbyte|> ALl.
[08:56] <NKjoep> elverion: ok i'll try
[08:56] <lowtech> elverion: yes
[08:56] <Melchiorre> MilhousePunkRock: oh?
[08:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey |lostbyte|, found your lost bandwith yet?
[08:57] <elverion> cool, so if i just restart, everything is ready to go then, lowtech?
[08:57] <Emess> ok big question:
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Ok, Melchiorre, where to start... On the LiveCD, WLAN was just fine
[08:58] <lowtech> elverion: yeah, thats all i had to do
[08:58] <TheHighChild> hey folks, any idea why "save as" might crash my kmail when saving attachments?
[08:58] <elverion> my desktop appears to be frozen, how nice. it's been that way for maybe 10 minutes
[08:58] <`6og> elverion: got a terminal open? run `grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf`
[08:58] <NKjoep> i bought dlink dwl810+ :P so i dont need wifi driver :D
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Same on the installation, at first. After the updates, Wireless was gone
[08:58] <Emess> put the kubuntu dapper cd in the drive, it all loads normally, and then when it tried to load X so i can install it freezes and stays with my mouse cursor, and a part blue part grey screen
[08:59] <elverion> Driver            "nv"
[08:59] <`6og> elverion: it hasnt enabled the nvidia driver yet then.
[08:59] <`6og> it might happen on reboot, but i would be supprised :/
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> We managed to get it back, it was a bug in the updated Kernel...
[08:59] <elverion> hmm, what must i do to enable it?
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Now I want my WLAN to be connected on KDE startup
[09:00] <`6og> elverion: i typically edit the file by hand, or run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:00] <`6og> `
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Emess, did you try booting in "safe mode"?
[09:00] <Emess> i jsut wanna get it installed
[09:01] <TheHighChild> elverion: You can edit your /etc/X11/xorg and change "Driver 'nv'" to "Driver nvidia". Make sure you backup your xorg.conf first
[09:01] <Melchiorre> MilhousePunkRock: wow, that's well out of my league ;)
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> AFAIK you can pass several option to X, might help in case you have "problematic" hardware...
[09:02] <`6og> TheHighChild: it's probably better to use dpkg, as it auto corrects the md5sum of the file
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> A more basic question then: If the driver was from ndiswrapper, the WLAN device would be called "wlan0", right?!?!
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, :P it keeps dancing from 25 kb/sec to 32 Kb/sec, if i download some thing..
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> |lostbyte| but that could also depend on the server you dl from...
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Did you try a speedtest?
[09:03] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: you should bwe able to add some lines to /etc/network/interfaces to get it to autostart on boot
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Will this help me, `6og: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Linux_Wireles_LAN
[09:03] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, TO test i download GoogelEarth cause they have fast servers and i always get maximum..
[09:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Did you change your MTU setting, |lostbyte|?
[09:04] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know how you can edit a group of images?
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, I find ndiswrapper buggy..
[09:04] <`6og> TheHighChild: try image magic
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, What are you wanting to do ?
[09:04] <`6og> |lostbyte|: most people do :)
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> I am not sure if it actually made my wlan work, since the device is called ath0, isnt that an indication for MADWIFI?
[09:05] <elverion> not really sure what i did there...
[09:05] <`6og> athros module. afaik madwifi
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> `6og, Have you created a ah-hoc with it anytime ?
[09:05] <`6og> |lostbyte|: no, i don't need it for my card. my cards a badly working native ;)
[09:05] <TheHighChild> |lostbyte|: I want to change groups of images by size and maybe quality for web optimization
[09:06] <NKjoep> ok worked apt-get install :D
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> But does that mean the script I linked to will not work, `6og?
[09:06] <TheHighChild> |lostbyte|: I am familiar with the command line but would prefer a GUI for image management
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, Use the convert command then..
[09:06] <NKjoep> sorry i'm a fucked newbie :P
[09:06] <Emess> looks like that machine wont run *ubuntu
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> `6og, Lukky. you..
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> What are the specs, Emess?
[09:06] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: when you type 'iwconfig' do you get an ath0 entry?
[09:06] <TheHighChild> |lostbyte|: You ahving wireless probs?
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> hold on...
[09:07] <Emess> 512mb ram, athlon xp 1.8GHz, nvidia GeForce4 4200Ti, 80GBhdd
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, Not really ! just wanting to know what stuff ndiswrapper cant do..
[09:07] <NKjoep> WLAN :(
[09:07] <`6og> Emess: it should run on there
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> 1 - Monitoring mode
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> `6og yeah, ath0 is there
[09:08] <TheHighChild> Automatix got my wireless working (Intel b/g 2200, IBM T42) with ndiswrapper. Not optimized but working ^_^
[09:08] <Emess> too bad i cant riple boot this box...
[09:08] <NKjoep> i have also a atlmel italian chipsed card... but it doesnt work with driver neither with ndiswrapper
[09:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Emess, that's twice as good as my machine
[09:08] <|lostbyte|> 2 - I think it cant act as Ad-hoc ( which i want to make sure ), but i can connect to an ad-hoc.
[09:08] <NKjoep> so i bought dlink eth to wifi
[09:08] <Emess> i know
[09:08] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: then you don't need ndiswrapper afaik
[09:08] <Emess> but i think there might be something wrong with the GPU
[09:08] <`6og> TheHighChild: what do you mean?
[09:09] <Emess> is there a way to configure Xorg before it loads X from the live cd
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, You dont need ndiswrapper.
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Basically WLAN works already, `6og, but I am tired of going to the wireless asisstant every time i boot
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, Just apt-get ipw2200
[09:09] <TheHighChild> `6og: Not sure what you're askng
[09:10] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: open your /etc/network/interfaces file and add 2 lines - 'auto ath0' and 'iface ath0 inet dhcp'
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> `6og, wireless-essid is not required ?
[09:10] <TheHighChild> |lostbyte|: I may be mistaken. I know that's what I thought I had but could never get it working. I don't use it much, I just like to know that I can
[09:10] <`6og> TheHighChild: how did automatix do it? does it have a 'makemy wireless work' option?
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, It will work.. just do iwconfig and if you see your card, it definatly works..
[09:11] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: kdesu kate etc
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, All you have to do after that is configure it.
[09:11] <TheHighChild> `6og: An option in it's list offers to install ndiswrapper, etc. I didn't look into it, just figured 'd give it a whirl.
[09:11] <`6og> ah ok
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> Emess, which one ?
[09:12] <Emess> i dont care as long as its AGP and not nvidia
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> there are a few auto options already, `6og...
[09:12] <Emess> because nvidia is killing my box
[09:13] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: but is there an auto ath0?
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> Emess, How come ?
[09:13] <`6og> Emess: heh
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> Nvidia suppose to be a native linux GPU.
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> auto ath0
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[09:14] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: well that's what you want in there.
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> it's there... along with stuff for devices I suppose I do not even have... eth1, eth2, wlan0
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> so why does it not connect on startup then, `6og?
[09:14] <`6og> you will have wlan0 if you have ndiswrapper
[09:15] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: not sure. perhaps the athros module isnt being loaded early enough
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> g'mornin' slow-motion
[09:15] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:16] <slow-motion> hi MilhousePunkRock
[09:17] <Emess> it supposed to but whenever i try to load X it crashes
[09:17] <Emess> unless its running xfce4 or flux
[09:17] <Emess> but its easily good enough for kde
[09:17] <elverion> alright, it appears to be working correctly now, thanks to all that helped
[09:18] <elverion> there is no apt-get package for vlc player?
[09:19] <tuxcicles> printer support for kubuntu dapper sucks heh-heh heh-heh
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> elverion, there is..
[09:19] <elverion> strange, search isn't returning any results for me
[09:19] <tuxcicles> there is vlc-kde support with the right repositories
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the worst that could happen if I install that script, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Linux_Wireles_LAN , `6og?
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> It won't break anything I suppose?!?!
[09:20] <elverion> i just tried: sudo apt-cache search vlc-kde  and got no results
[09:21] <elverion> i'm new to apt-get
[09:21] <tuxcicles> wronge repositories@@!!!
[09:21] <TheHighChild> any of you folks do basic web development?
[09:21] <tuxcicles> check out !easysource
[09:21] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: the worst it can do it cause module conflicts
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Of course I would be smart enough to alter it so it uses ath0 instead of wlan0...
[09:22] <elverion> tuxcicles: what is the correct way to do it, then?
[09:22] <tuxcicles> !easysource
[09:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:22] <elverion> oh, i thought you were talking to someone else when you said that
[09:23] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: give it a worl
[09:23] <`6og> *whirl
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> by the way, kate gives me weird errors whenever i do sudo kate somefile
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> but still loads it...
[09:24] <elverion> what do you need to use kate for as root?
[09:24] <elverion> if it's just modifying config files and such, you should use nano
[09:24] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: try kdsu
[09:28] <|lostbyte|> kdsu ?
[09:29] <`6og> a program designed for running KDE apps using sudo
[09:29] <`6og> !info kdsu
[09:29] <ubotu> Package kdsu does not exist in dapper
[09:29] <`6og> !info kdesu
[09:29] <ubotu> Package kdesu does not exist in dapper
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> Its kdesu
[09:29] <`6og> hm. must be part of something
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> it does not matter wether i use sudo or kdesu
[09:31] <`6og> it does for some programs
[09:31] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, What error ?
[09:32] <`6og> if you sudo some programs it will stop you logging in next time you log out
[09:32] <MilhousePunkRock> hold on, will be in the pastebin within seconds...
[09:33] <NKjoep> there's a way to change the language of openoffice?
[09:33] <`6og> nkjoep: in options
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, NKjoep
[09:34] <NKjoep> uhmm... i'm guessing how to handle it :P
[09:34] <NKjoep> :D
[09:35] <|lostbyte|> NKjoep, First you have to install the appropreate lang.. usually openoffice.org-l10n-[x] 
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/726935
[09:36] <NKjoep> |lostbyte|: what's x? :)
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> NKjoep, do a search sudo apt-cache search openoffice.org
[09:38] <NKjoep> ok done... thank you for turning on my lamp |lostbyte|
[09:39] <|lostbyte|> NKjoep, np ;)
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> you can also add the I10n packages via Adept, NKjoep
[09:40] <cpress> hey
[09:41] <NKjoep> MilhousePunkRock: i didnt find handy Adept...
[09:41] <NKjoep> yestarday it didnt worked :\
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> oh...
[09:42] <NKjoep> example... i had mozilla firefox disabled from installing in Adept _
[09:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Did someone look at my kate error message yet?
[09:45] <`6og> MilhousePunkRock: i suspect that's because you ran with sudo
[09:45] <chavo> MilhousePunkRock, the page never loaded, pastebin is slow tonight
[09:45] <ninHer> hi all
[09:46] <`6og> it was slow yesterday as well
[09:46] <`6og> hey
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> was slow on uploading too
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey chavo! If you feel itchy to play some Wolf ET, let me know...
[09:46] <Ademan> what's D-Bus?
[09:46] <chavo> this one's usually good http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:46] <chavo> alright
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> you want me to repaste it?
[09:47] <chavo> not tonight I just got home from a gig
[09:47] <`6og> Ademan: inter proces comunication
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> a gig you saw or a gig you played?
[09:47] <chavo> that I played
[09:47] <Ademan> just like named pipes and crap?
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> So what do you play?
[09:47] <chavo> Ademan, dbus is for inter process communicxation
[09:47] <chavo> MilhousePunkRock, I play guitar
[09:48] <Ademan> either way, the MusicApplet won't install because it says i need D-Bus support... do i need a package?
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> What kinda music, chavo?
[09:48] <Ademan> eh, i have the dbus applet, maybe dbus-dev
[09:48] <chavo> we call it cowpunk, it's country with a rock and punk edge
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Sounds interesting... Got a website?
[09:48] <chavo> http://2sdw.com
[09:48] <Ademan> hrm.... there is no dbus-dev
[09:49] <chavo> http://myspace.com/2sdw this has our newer stuff
[09:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Goddamnit, why is Firefox so slow?
[09:50] <chavo> man we haven't updated our main site in forver
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> lol that myspace player made Fx freeze
[09:52] <chavo> yeah flash is still iffy here, it doesn't work in konqueror either
[09:52] <word> what's dm-0?
[09:52] <ajayc> hi guys
[09:52] <chavo> could be because there's no flash 8 yet
[09:52] <NKjoep> how can i set firefox as default webbrowser?
[09:53] <word> NKjoep: in system settings - > kde components i believe
[09:53] <ajayc> what is advantages of kubuntu over xubuntu?
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Nkjoep --> System Settings --> KDE components --> default applications
[09:53] <NKjoep> ohh thanx :D
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> KDE, ajayc
[09:54] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, nothing else?
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> KDE and all it's applications maybe...
[09:54] <chavo> ajayc, that's the only differrence
[09:54] <ajayc> chavo, speed?
[09:54] <chavo> and you can install any desktop in either one
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> BTW, 6og, chavo, |lostbyte|, nearly the same error when i start kate without kdesu
[09:55] <chavo> ajayc, I honestly don't see a speed difference
[09:55] <ajayc> chavo, ok
[09:55] <chavo> some people say xfce is faster, but I think they just assume that it is because it has less stuff
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> depends on your system I guess... to me KDE feels somewhat slower than Win XP was
[09:56] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, i have a laptop
[09:56] <ajayc> 256mb ram
[09:56] <ajayc> ddr2
[09:56] <chavo> yeah some things are a little slower
[09:56] <chavo> yeah if you have lower ram xfce might be better
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, try this..
[09:57] <chavo> but then again xp is 5 years old and KDE has a lot more features
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> rm .kde/share/apps/kate -rfv from home dire.
[09:57] <chavo> ajayc, with 256M I'd try out xfce
[09:57] <ajayc> chavo, i will install kubuntu then get xubuntu desktop
[09:57] <ajayc> so that i can have both
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> and try kate again..
[09:57] <chavo> ok that'll work if you've got the diskspace
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> lol I think I just killed the KDE taskbar and everything
[09:57] <chavo> I have KDE on my laptop with 384M and it runs nice
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> BRB
[09:58] <word> when evms starts....it says there are i/o buffer errors on dm-0 :-/ i have to press ctrl+c right when it begins to start to get kubuntu to boot
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> how can i get the taskbar back?
[09:59] <word> MilhousePunkRock: What do you mean?
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> i wanted to use ctrl+alt+esc to kill the hanging firefox
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> and clicked on the taskbar
[10:00] <word> uh
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Taskbar or the panel ?
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> everything
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, alt+f2 > kicker
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> thx >los
[10:01] <ajayc> anyone here play et?
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> thx |lostbyte|
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> i do recently, ajayc
[10:02] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, wanna play wimme now?
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> the original ET?
[10:02] <ajayc> wolfestein
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I prefer True Combat Elite --> truecombat.com
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.truecombat.com that is
[10:03] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, trucombat elite?
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Click the link, ajayc, and you will see. It's a total conversion mod, much like counterstrike
[10:03] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, yeah nice
[10:03] <emonkey> !freenx
[10:04] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[10:04] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, why dont u play the original
[10:04] <chavo> ah cool I have to check out true combat
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> I like the modern weapons, characters and surroundings better...
[10:04] <ajayc> ah
[10:04] <ajayc> but  can still play that eh?
[10:04] <chavo> I always thought et would be awesome in more updated urban surroundings
[10:04] <ajayc> with that patch
[10:04] <ajayc> chavo, true
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> I had a really fast torrent for it yesterday, let me know if you get it from there so I can seed it
[10:05] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, me?
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> You can still play both when you install it, ajayc and chavo
[10:06] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, so lets play
[10:06] <emonkey> !seveas
[10:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:06] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, wnat to? i can give ip now
[10:06] <Seveas> !emonkey
[10:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about emonkey
[10:06] <ajayc> !intel
[10:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel
[10:06] <ajayc> !ubotu
[10:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:06] <emonkey> Seveas, lol
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> sure ajayc
[10:06] <Emess> !kill ajayc
[10:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about kill ajayc
[10:06] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:06] <ajayc> Emess, lol
[10:07] <Emess> :P
[10:07] <ajayc> yo everyone who wants to play
[10:07] <ajayc> 81.92.97.210:27965
[10:07] <Emess> what si it?
[10:07] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, coming now
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Let me just boot my *cough*Windows machine*cough*...
[10:07] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, lol
[10:07] <Emess> ewww M$
[10:07] <ajayc> Emess, u got et?
[10:08] <Emess> ok this computer store is bullsh*t
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> ajayc, which game ?
[10:08] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, booting done?
[10:08] <ajayc> |lostbyte|, enemy territory
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> :( i dont have that..
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> I prefer to play on a 2 GHz/1 GB RAM, GeForce 6600 GT setup over a 1 Ghz, 256 MB, weak laptop video chip setup
[10:08] <ajayc> |lostbyte|, download it then
[10:08] <Emess> they charge mroe for a linux box than windows because they dont know how to install linux, and they wont sell a box without an OS or let me isntall it myself in the store
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> ajayc, its free. ?
[10:09] <ajayc> |lostbyte|, ofcourse GPL
[10:09] <cox377> is there anyway to conect to a freenx server from a windows client?
[10:09] <ajayc> cox377, use freenx itself
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> it is, |lostbyte| Wow that pipes in your name star to annoy me
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> ajayc, ok ! i'll download..
[10:09] <Emess> best game experience ever: i installed quake 4 on my friends box with dual 7800GTX's
[10:09] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, machine booted?
[10:09] <Emess> and we isntalled OpenMOSIX on it
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah
[10:09] <ajayc> Emess, that is nirvana!!!!
[10:09] <cox377> ajayc: freenx is the server side isn't it?
[10:09] <Emess> and plugged it into his worls MOSIX cluster :D
[10:09] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, got the ip i gave?
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> hold on
[10:09] <ajayc> cox377, it can used as a client too
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, You simple Hit "|"<tab> and awlla.. i am the only one when it. :P
[10:10] <Emess> and played the game on 'ultimate graphics mode'
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> need to set up resolution and everything
[10:10] <ajayc> Emess, ultimate man!!!
[10:10] <|lostbyte|> ajayc, its in the repo ?
[10:10] <cox377> ajayc: can u log into a linux machine running the server side from a M$ machine?
[10:10] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, fast man
[10:10] <ajayc> |lostbyte|, dunno
[10:10] <ajayc> cox377, get the freenx for windows and connect
[10:10] <cox377> ahhh
[10:10] <cox377> cool
[10:11] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, done?
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> IP again, ajayc
[10:11] <ajayc> anyone else coming to play?
[10:11] <ajayc> 81.92.97.210:27965
[10:11] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock, 81.92.97.210:27965
[10:11] <ajayc> see u there
[10:11] <Emess> 848.6GHz of Quakeness :D
[10:11] <ajayc> bbl
[10:11] <ajayc> kill time
[10:11] <|lostbyte|> ajayc, i am here.. http://www.idsoftware.com/downloads/
[10:12] <|lostbyte|> dont see the full version..
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> connecting
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> do you use bittorent |lostbyte|?
[10:12] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, nope ! but i think i have ktorrent..
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> PM me the torrent link..
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> you behind a router/firewall?
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> Not getting throught.. and no.. i have no fw
[10:15] <watchme> Hello
[10:15] <kaelis> hi, um, I've sort of managed to lose my K menu, and, can't figure out how to get it back
[10:16] <pinucset> click in the bar and search the applet k menu kaelis
[10:16] <kaelis> right
[10:16] <|lostbyte|> kaelis, CHeck the kde panel menu and get it throught applet.
[10:16] <kaelis> oh. right.
[10:16] <kaelis> d'oh
[10:16] <kaelis> thanks!
[10:17] <watchme> hi , I need support with my Laptop , and a soundproblem with the ATI IXP SB400....
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> ajmitch_, Pls pass me the torrent link..
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Yours didt come through.
[10:18] <watchme> The internal boxes make no sound, and from the Headphone jack just comes cracks
[10:19] <MilhousePunkRock> |lostbyte| was just a try, i never used that before
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, your talking about the torrent or the game ?
[10:21] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> transferring a file through IRC
[10:22] <Ashex> what's the command to re-configure the keyboard?
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, whats the size of that file ( et-linux-2.60.x86.run ) ?
[10:22] <Ashex> I need to set the windows key to open kmenu
[10:23] <watchme> robotgeek: are you there?
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> 258,4 MB
[10:26] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, i think i got it.
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> True Combat Elite as well, |lostbyte|?
[10:35] <lowtech> must have been something in the update but got my printer to work now. yay! heh
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Am downloading it..
[10:37] <emonkey> lowtech, congrats 
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Will ping you once over..
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> AFK !
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> emonkey and his japanese kanji smiley again... :-P
[10:39] <emonkey> MilhousePunkRock, I've stolen this from another guy in this channel
[10:39] <emonkey> originally it's not from me
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> how do you do it? I want to steal it as well...
[10:40] <abattoir> 
[10:40] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: copy it and paste it 
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> 
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> but that only let's me do it when it's there to copy it from...
[10:41] <defrysk>  
[10:41] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: you can use kcharselect, or like i often do copy foreign chars. from wikipedia 
[10:42] <defrysk>  
[10:42] <emonkey> MilhousePunkRock, I've got a automatic replace from : ) to 
[10:42] <defrysk> MilhousePunkRock, in xchat you can just replace txt with
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Progress, |lostbyte|?
[10:42] <defrysk> emonkey, exactly
[10:44] <solid_liq> 
[10:44] <oem> hi @ll. i'm searching for a tool like "thunderbird" to read some newsgroups...i tried knews and gnus but nothing works...any tips? (i'm using ubuntu with kde)
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock>   
[10:45] <defrysk> try kmail
[10:45] <defrysk>  
[10:45] <oem> k i'll try
[10:45] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock: yo!
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> wb ajayc
[10:45] <ajayc> guys i have a prob here
[10:45] <ajayc> i dont have the final release
[10:45] <ajayc> i have a beta
[10:46] <ajayc> i will install and update will that be fine?
[10:46] <ajayc> MilhousePunkRock: ?
[10:47] <ajayc> hello?
[10:47] <ajayc> everyone dead/
[10:47] <Lynoure> hi
[10:47] <defrysk> ajayc, beta of what ?
[10:47] <ajayc> kubuntu
[10:48] <defrysk> ajayc, get the stable
[10:48] <ajayc> defrysk: if i install and then update?
[10:48] <defrysk> download and install takes less time then upgrade
[10:48] <defrysk> ajayc, easyest is upgrade
[10:48] <ajayc> defrysk: not in my case
[10:48] <ajayc> yeah
[10:48] <ajayc> i will install and upgrade
[10:49] <defrysk> upgrading only takes more time , to if you have stuf to back up I would simply update with apt
[10:49] <defrysk> dist-upgrade that is
[10:49] <ajayc> defrysk: this is not so old
[10:49] <ajayc> it is one of the daily releases
[10:49] <ajayc> recent
[10:50] <ajayc> but not the stable released
[10:50] <defrysk> ajayc, do dist-upgrade and see howmuch is needed to install  
[10:50] <defrysk> you wil be surprised
[10:50] <ajayc> ok wait
[10:50] <defrysk> likely to be about 700 meg
[10:50] <defrysk> or more
[10:50] <ajayc> lemme see
[10:52] <ajayc> defrysk: what is the actual command?
[10:52] <defrysk> ajayc, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:52] <oem> defrysk, with kmail i can manage my mail-accounts...but i want to read newsgroups...
[10:53] <defrysk> oem, oh gosh
[10:53] <defrysk> sorry
[10:53] <oem> np
[10:54] <Orgullomoore> hello. My middle mouse click is like high-wired...in Firefox for example, if I give it but the slightest click, it will open in a single new tab, if I give it a normal click though (what I'm used to), it opens two tabs. Is there a way to change that?
[10:54] <ajayc> defrysk: 353 mb
[10:55] <ajayc> defrysk: now tell me what to do!
[10:55] <defrysk> ajayc, thats not too bad , just make sure to have all your sources.list repos properly set up
[10:55] <ajayc> tell me how to make that sure
[10:55] <defrysk> !sources.list
[10:55] <defrysk> !repos
[10:55] <ajayc> defrysk: tell me manually man come on
[10:56] <ajayc> what to do
[10:56] <defrysk> a sec
[10:56] <ajayc> ok
[10:56] <defrysk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:57] <defrysk> read that , if you have probs with it come back
[10:58] <solid_liq> anyone know if konversation can autoreplace text?
[11:00] <jpatrick> solid_liq: can do names, press tab
[11:01] <solid_liq> jpatrick: nah, I want :) autoreplaced to 
[11:01] <solid_liq> 
[11:01] <Orgullomoore> lol
[11:01] <Orgullomoore> ")
[11:01] <Orgullomoore> je
[11:01] <Orgullomoore> what's that second character?
[11:01] <m8> salve
[11:01] <Orgullomoore> salud
[11:02] <m8> how i change the default ansa sound card? i have 2 sound cards :(
[11:03] <defrysk> m8, if you have a build in soundcard that you do not wish to use just disable it in your bios
[11:03] <m8> nono
[11:03] <m8> :)
[11:03] <m8> i want to use 2 sound cards 1 for music
[11:03] <m8> 1 for skpye
[11:03] <m8> 1 for skype
[11:03] <defrysk> i see
[11:03] <defrysk> too complex for my pea brain  
[11:04] <solid_liq> 1 for skippy and one for skipe?
[11:04] <m8> 1 for music 1 for skype
[11:05] <oem> yeah no i found thunderbird....it's called mozilla-thunderbird
[11:05] <m8> how i change the default ansa sound card? i have 2 sound cards :(
[11:06] <m8> not 2
[11:06] <m8> in the same time
[11:06] <m8> i like  only
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> |lostbyte|: Are you done yet?
[11:08] <m8> i want to use just 1 sound card
[11:08] <m8> i want to change the default sound card in alsa! but alsaconf give me nothing
[11:08] <m8> :(
[11:23] <FearMoth> I installed the 2.6.15-25-686 kernel in kubuntu dapper, and now I am getting an error when my ati fglrx driver loads: (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel ... this only started when I started using the -686 kernel instead of the -386, anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[11:24] <visik7> you need to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686 too
[11:26] <FearMoth> thanks
[11:31] <riri> lQtUitools_debug message error on dapper
[11:32] <riri> how can I fix it ?
[11:33] <boingolov> wave magic feathers in the air, then dance, wave feathers some more.  repeat
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> You trying to make rain, boingolov?
[11:34] <boingolov> depends on the day, depends on the dance
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[11:35] <DevGet> where do I find the config file for kdm in ubuntu?
[11:35] <boingolov> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <boingolov> it should ask you about that
[11:37] <DevGet> nm
[11:38] <boingolov> if you already have kdm /kubuntu installed, look in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:50] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: i downloades et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[11:50] <exceswater> i try to install it right now
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Nice, exceswater
[11:52] <exceswater> it works
[11:52] <exceswater> it was old version the other :D
[11:52] <exceswater> hehe
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> :(
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> Still downloading..
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> this slow speed is killing me..
[11:53] <|lostbyte|> what you call that no .. in pppd 8.35 ?
[11:53] <solid_liq> to help you kill time:  what kind of bees make milk?
[11:53] <|lostbyte|> I like the graphics of the game :)
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Now that the wireless works on boot, I only need to get the power saving features working for "windows-equal" functionality
[11:55] <exceswater> solid_liq:  milk bees
[11:55] <solid_liq> exceswater: nope
[11:55] <solid_liq> BOOBIES!!
[11:55] <solid_liq> :P
[11:55] <solid_liq> c'mon, everybody loves boobies  :D
[11:57] <boingolov> I'm goofing with wireless stuffs currently, trying to get auditor functionality on kubuntu
[11:57] <exceswater> hehe lol
[11:57] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: please tell me how to get that mod] 
[11:58] <exceswater> you said something about a nice mod
[11:58] <boingolov> I love boobies
[11:58] <boingolov> but I'm more of a leg man
[11:58] <exceswater> yesterday
[11:58] <exceswater> boobies and face :D
[11:58] <MilhousePunkRock> you are forgetting about ass, people!
[11:58] <boingolov> I'm more a leg 'n body man myself
[11:58] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: please tell me about that mod
[11:58] <boingolov> when I say "leg", I mean the top portion
[11:58] <exceswater> where i can get it
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> exceswater: http://www.truecombat.com
[11:59] <solid_liq> exceswater: it comes with ICUP
[11:59] <exceswater> and icup means ?
[11:59] <exceswater> it's a big file ?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> in case you use bittorrent, there is a pretty fast torrent i used yesterday
[12:00] <boingolov> iCUP, apple's new entry into the sporting gear lineup
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> How is wolfensitin ?
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> Its a linux game also..
[12:00] <solid_liq> boingolov: LOL
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I dont like Enemy territory that much, but True Combat really rocks
[12:01] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, why ? dont you likw it ?
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> you cant even bring up ironsights on the gun
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> in TC:E you can
[12:02] <MilhousePunkRock> !acpi
[12:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about acpi
[12:03] <|lostbyte|> ok :)
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> why can i not find the ibm-acpi package?
[12:03] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock:  what should i get
[12:03] <exceswater> for true combat
[12:04] <MilhousePunkRock> do you use bittorrent exceswater?
[12:04] <exceswater> nope
[12:04] <exceswater> i mean should i get normal file
[12:04] <solid_liq> Random Fortune: A Linux machine! Because a 486 is a terrible thing to waste! 	-- Joe Sloan, jjs@wintermute.ucr.edu
[12:04] <exceswater> or loki installer
[12:05] <MilhousePunkRock> i think that loki thing was actually a torrent file
[12:05] <azzco> loki installer?
[12:05] <azzco> I'm trying to get UT to work on my computer and heard something about loki
[12:06] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: are u here ?
[12:07] <MilhousePunkRock> patience little grasshopper, i am just trying to find a download for you, exceswater
[12:08] <exceswater> :D
[12:08] <exceswater> i give u the site :D
[12:08] <boingolov> jaysus, wine is still compiling
[12:08] <boingolov> for a small tgz, it takes 3 years to compile
[12:08] <exceswater> http://www.truecombat.com/intro.php?x=d
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> boingolov, hai ! et is a windows game working on wine ?
[12:09] <boingolov> nah, just trying to get ie6 working properly
[12:09] <exceswater> nope
[12:09] <MilhousePunkRock> no no no |lostbyte|, it's native
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> I see there is a linux version. then why need wine..
[12:09] <exceswater> it's a windows game with a version for linux
[12:09] <exceswater> :d
[12:09] <moon2> how I change compliz window decoration in kde??
[12:10] <boingolov> I need ie6 to check web pages, I do lamp
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> This one might work: http://liflg.org/?what=dl&catid=6&gameid=52&filename=true.combat.elite_0.48-english-5.run
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> Why you guys looking for a loki installer ?
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> if its native ?
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> why don't you use one of the IE extensions for Firefox, boingolov
[12:11] <MilhousePunkRock> can someone confirm that the download link is working?
[12:11] <boingolov> most of the IE extensions that I'm aware of actually just incorporate an instance of IE into a tab
[12:11] <boingolov> but that only works on winders afik
[12:11] <boingolov> afaik even
[12:12] <boingolov> and there is a ubuntu repository that even supples a version of wine, but most of the docs I'm finding say that some older vesions of wine were more stable
[12:13] <MilhousePunkRock> i remember having 2 IE plugins, one was using the actual IE engine, the other one wasnt
[12:13] <boingolov> so I'm giving 0.9.6 a shot
[12:14] <boingolov> well, I don't trust a firefox plugin to emulate ie6 properly.  if for no other reason than you have to emulate the bugs as well as the spec
[12:14] <boingolov> unless it's actually launching an instance of IE anyway
[12:14] <boingolov> not that there is an actual published spec for ie6
[12:16] <NKjoep> hi ppl !
[12:18] <exceswater> MilhousePunkRock: help me with an advice
[12:18] <exceswater> i have warsow
[12:18] <MilhousePunkRock> sure, if I can, exceswater
[12:19] <exceswater> the archive
[12:19] <exceswater> i unziped it
[12:19] <exceswater> and i dunno how to start the game
[12:19] <tuxcicles> i hear that kanotix cd is great live, but is it half ass on the harddrive?
[12:19] <MilhousePunkRock> well, I cant help you there I guess.. Don't know or have the game
[12:19] <exceswater> it's a nice game
[12:19] <exceswater> something like counter
[12:20] <exceswater> i haven't seen much of it
[12:20] <exceswater> it was a tar.gz
[12:20] <exceswater> i unzipped it
[12:20] <exceswater> and ...
[12:20] <lowtech> if its a decent app it'll have a readme or install
[12:23] <exceswater> it has
[12:23] <exceswater> but nothing about linux problems
[12:23] <exceswater> :D
[12:23] <exceswater> is someone here who has WARSOW and can help me with some advices ?
[12:24] <lowtech> you're kidding, it doesn't say how to run the thing?
[12:24] <exceswater> yup
[12:25] <exceswater> anyway i am kinda noob
[12:25] <exceswater> maybe that's the problem
[12:25] <exceswater> :D
[12:25] <lowtech> there's quality work
[12:31] <tuxcicles> kubuntu dapper print system, samba, and ati drivers
[12:31] <tuxcicles> are borked
[12:32] <tuxcicles> anyone know if they are working on something? i think that I read a couple months ago they were broke, they must really be broken.
[12:33] <slow-motion> re
[12:44] <noiesmo> hello rob hows it going just wanted to ask about a cloak for hostname
[12:45] <exceswater> done
[12:46] <exceswater> it works
[12:46] <exceswater> what a nice feeling you have when you make something nice in kubuntu :d
[12:52] <scorpion007> Anyone here run into this bug with dapper? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/49534
[01:14] <noiesmo> ping
[01:19] <|lostbyte|> Hi !
[01:19] <|lostbyte|> Could some one check if they have ipv4 loaded ?
[01:19] <theoverload> hi kann hier jemand deutsch
[01:20] <Chryseus> !de
[01:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:28] <visik7> is there a way to get suspend/hibernate working with nvidia ?
[01:32] <LacertaII> hello, how do i set up internet so it'll be using interface wlan0?
[01:33] <LacertaII> i did it about 6 months ago and i don't remember how it went
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> !ndiswrapper
[01:35] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> that might help you LacertaII
[01:38] <vlosdev> MilhousePunkRock, yo
[01:41] <LacertaII> the problem is not with the wlan0 itself i think.
[01:42] <LacertaII> iwconfig sees the correct network and all settings appear to be all right
[01:43] <vlosdev> guys how does ur nick stay here whole day?
[01:45] <|lostbyte|> vlosdev, By satying here whole day..
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> I registered mine...
[01:46] <|lostbyte|> staying*
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> and that... ;-)
[01:52] <tchize> hello guys
[01:53] <tchize> i got this while running apt-get update:  following signature could not be verified because public key is unavailable: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 , any suggestion??
[01:54] <tchize> (it's a breezy badger release)
[01:57] <raphink> tchize: it's not important
[01:57] <raphink> won't prevent anything from working
[01:57] <tchize> raphink: well am not sure but it think it's preventing download of updates
[01:57] <raphink> nope tchize
[01:57] <raphink> it's not preventing downloads
[01:58] <raphink> it's only a warning
[01:58] <raphink> security warning
[01:59] <tchize> ok then i have another question, why is version of nvidia driver shipped with linux-restricted-module the 7174 and the one shipped with xorg 7667, my xorg won't start anymore
[02:00] <raphink> ah
[02:00] <raphink> don't know about that
[02:00] <tchize> and is there a way to at least downgrade the nvidia-glx driver to 7174?
[02:01] <raphink> did you upgrade it?
[02:01] <tchize> i ran a dist-upgrade and the pof, i ended with half nvidia 7667 and half nvidia 7174
[02:01] <raphink> ah
[02:02] <tchize> so as it seem the linux-restricted-modules ships the 7174, i'd like to downgrade the glx to same version :)
[02:10] <NKjoep> ciao ilgattotrino_via
[02:11] <ilgattotrino_via> ma la smettete con questi script di benvenuto!!!
[02:11] <NKjoep> ahuauh
[02:11] <NKjoep> ma quali script
[02:11] <ilgattotrino_via> ah lo hai scritto a mano?
[02:11] <NKjoep> si -.-"
[02:11] <ilgattotrino_via> e mica sono entrato nel canale!
[02:11] <NKjoep> lo so
[02:12] <ilgattotrino_via> bah
[02:12] <ilgattotrino_via> ciao
[02:13] <edneymatias> hello!
[02:13] <NKjoep> hi
[02:13] <Style_CHM> hi
[02:14] <Style_CHM> Im running dapper on a Dell Inspiron 9400 - it blows me away
[02:14] <Style_CHM> everyone at my work is like 'holy shit man, linux is that good?' :D
[02:15] <kane__> Style_CHM: what specifically are they blown away by ?
[02:15] <Style_CHM> kane__: The look, the speed, the apps - basically everything
[02:15] <NKjoep> :P
[02:15] <kane__> ah cool
[02:15] <Style_CHM> this thing flies
[02:17] <NKjoep> there's a way to make the central button of the mouse work right one? :P (my right buttons is broken :| )
[02:17] <Style_CHM> duo 1.8G, 100G sata, 2G ram
[02:17] <NKjoep> ops
[02:17] <NKjoep> so late
[02:17] <NKjoep> bye
[02:17] <NKjoep> .quit :E
[02:17] <Style_CHM> heh
[02:17] <Style_CHM> asks a question then leaves :)
[02:17] <Style_CHM> interesting
[02:18] <exceswater> guys
[02:18] <exceswater> who can tell me how to install a mod to et ?
[02:18] <exceswater> it's a run file ...
[02:18] <exceswater> i have to sh file ?
[02:18] <ninHer> hi all
[02:18] <Style_CHM> et?
[02:19] <exceswater> wolfenstein enemy territory
[02:19] <Style_CHM> what is et?
[02:19] <Style_CHM> ashhhh
[02:19] <Style_CHM> shh
[02:19] <Style_CHM> ahhh even
[02:19] <exceswater> so...
[02:19] <exceswater> how can i install that mod
[02:19] <Style_CHM> soz, no idea
[02:19] <exceswater> np
[02:19] <Style_CHM> what's the filename?
[02:20] <Style_CHM> oh jesus :)
[02:51] <waterman> hey pplz
[02:51] <waterman> i have a question about wolfenstein enemy territory
[02:51] <waterman> can u help me
[02:51] <waterman>  ?
[02:52] <waterman> can u see me ? ??
[02:52] <waterman> hi all
[02:52] <waterman> can u see me here ?
[02:53] <waterman> it seems like no1 here answers
[02:54] <waterman> heeeeeeeeeeeelo
[02:54] <waterman> nobody home ?
[02:55] <waterman> hey
[02:55] <waterman> i cannot see any messages on my bitchx
[02:55] <waterman> why ?
[02:55] <waterman> ?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> waterman: heya, your messages are getting through
[02:56] <waterman> hi hobsee
[02:56] <waterman> i was afraid...
[02:56] <waterman> so dark
[02:56] <waterman> so alone :D
[02:56] <waterman> lol
[02:56] <waterman> not such a big problem
[02:56] <waterman> i am not Noob anymore
[02:56] <waterman> thanks to people here on #kubuntu :D
[02:56] <waterman> i managed to install wolfenstein ET
[02:57] <waterman> even managed to install that cute mod for it
[02:57] <waterman> my problem is that is keeps dowloading files when i try to join a server
[02:57] <waterman> and dunno if this is good or bad
[02:59] <waterman> so...
[02:59] <waterman> no one  knows ?
[03:00] <waterman> i hoped is someone here who knows it
[03:00] <waterman> and another question
[03:01] <waterman> can i ALT Tab in kubuntu
[03:01] <waterman> like in win
[03:01] <waterman> i can CTRL ALT F
[03:01] <waterman> but i cannot tab to normal desktop
[03:01] <waterman> it keeps switching konsoles
[03:01] <waterman> but nu usual desktop
[03:02] <azzco> Ctrl+Alt+ F7 tried that?
[03:02] <waterman> i think it's night
[03:02] <waterman> i have wolfenstein on CTRL ALT F7
[03:02] <waterman> :D
[03:02] <waterman> but i hoped i can have another desktop
[03:02] <Hobbsee> you need to set in system settings, regions and accessibility, what you want that shortcut to be
[03:02] <waterman> oic
[03:02] <waterman> it's night in your region
[03:03] <waterman> too much silence here ..
[03:03] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, logging in as another user, or another desktop as in a vertual desktop?
[03:03] <waterman> another desktop...
[03:03] <waterman> not logging in
[03:03] <waterman> another desktop
[03:03] <azzco> 15.03 here
[03:03] <azzco> waterman where do you come from?
[03:03] <waterman> here is 16.03
[03:04] <waterman> romania
[03:04] <waterman> :D
[03:04] <waterman> you ?
[03:04] <azzco> sweden here
[03:04] <waterman> hehe
[03:04] <waterman> nice country
[03:04] <azzco> you don't happen to know anything about FTP?
[03:04] <waterman> i know a little
[03:04] <waterman> generally speaking.. not linux
[03:04] <waterman> but ask
[03:04] <waterman> ftp is file transfer protocol
[03:04] <waterman> ask me azzco
[03:05] <waterman> what u need
[03:05] <azzco> I'm trying to setup an ftp server here so that I can share some files that are constantly being modified with a freind
[03:05] <waterman> yup
[03:05] <nnn0> how do you guys extract iso images ?
[03:05] <waterman> it's not so hard
[03:05] <azzco> but I don't know wich program to use nor how to setup the server
[03:05] <waterman> azzco
[03:05] <waterman> on win is bullet proof ftp
[03:06] <nnn0> k just mount it maybe
[03:06] <waterman> but i don't know much about linux servers
[03:06] <azzco> yeah on windows I would have used filezilla but that isn't available on linux it seems
[03:06] <waterman> nnn0 iso i think is for windows ? :D
[03:06] <waterman> azzco... google for ftp server linux
[03:06] <waterman> it's not so hard to set up
[03:06] <waterman> usually it's not so complicated
[03:07] <waterman> and he logs in on your ip
[03:07] <azzco> allready did...looked like alot of reading^^ thought I'd ask here for quick answers ;)
[03:07] <azzco> waterman: you running windows ATM?
[03:09] <nnn0> i just mounted it and copied the files
[03:09] <kie> hello
[03:09] <kie> i got a problem with my eclipse
[03:09] <waterman> :D
[03:09] <kie> i get the message, that no compable java vm was found to run it
[03:09] <waterman> can i ask something
[03:09] <Hobbsee> !java
[03:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[03:10] <waterman> kie i think you must install java machine
[03:10] <kie> yeah, perhabs. it was running sometimes, but i did someting wrong
[03:10] <kie> so i crashed perhabs my jvm ;)
[03:10] <kie> thx
[03:10] <kie> i'll check the wiki
[03:12] <Werzi2001> hi@ll
[03:12] <Werzi2001> i have a problem with my sound... i don't have one :(
[03:12] <Werzi2001> modules are loaded correctly...
[03:13] <Werzi2001> the file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state contains my card...
[03:13] <kie> in what repository can i find the sun-java5-bin?
[03:14] <kie> i use breezy, pehabs thats improtant ;)
[03:15] <Hobbsee> kie: multiverse
[03:15] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[03:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[03:16] <DanielC> Could someone tell me how to add/change file associations in Kubuntu?
[03:16] <DanielC> I can't find that anywhere.
[03:17] <noiesmo> DanielC, open kcontrol
[03:17] <DanielC> noiesmo: How do I do that? Run kcontrol from the command line?
[03:17] <noiesmo> DanielC, you can type in terminal kcontrol then go kde componenets
[03:17] <DanielC> Ok, I'm there.
[03:18] <noiesmo> DanielC, go kde componenets
[03:18] <KDEfanboy> anyone know where to find debs for latest nvidia driver? if i have repositories set up right, the one i see in dapper is 7 months out of date
[03:18] <DanielC> Found it. Thanks.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <DanielC> noiesmo: Is there a reason why kcontrol is hidden?
[03:18] <Hobbsee> DanielC: replaced by system settings
[03:19] <noiesmo> DanielC, don't know
[03:19] <noiesmo> DanielC, there you go
[03:19] <DanielC> Hobbsee: But system settings doesn't let you change/add file associations.
[03:19] <noiesmo> here here
[03:19] <Hobbsee> then i think that functionality is in konqueror
[03:19] <Hobbsee> i dont like it, that's just the way they decided to do it
[03:19] <DanielC> ok
[03:20] <noiesmo> fair enough just make a shortcut to it
[03:20] <kie> in my sources.list there are two multiverse reps, but i cant find the sun-java5-bin package
[03:21] <noiesmo> !universe
[03:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[03:21] <Hobbsee> kie: that's odd.  wonder what the breezy way of java was.  check the wiki
[03:22] <kie> okay...
[03:22] <Hobbsee> !java
[03:22] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[03:22] <DanielC> Ok, it works now. Thanks for the help.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> kie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-ceb2665e5b6582344a1a5705b18c094f61f10d85
[03:27] <kie> okay
[03:27] <kie> i wanna instal the j2re1.4 package. but i can't find it with my adept
[03:27] <kie> though i activates the multiverse reps
[03:27] <kie> -s +d
[03:31] <thompa> the external monitor works in my laptop after using a file xorg.conf.1 ?
[03:31] <thompa> is that a backup file?
[03:32] <thompa> i had to purge xorg and reinstall glx also
[03:33] <rhavenn_> buddy is running kubuntu breezy...it's been running fine for a couple of weeks..this morning he boots up and once he logs in the keyboard doesn't work..he can type his username / password ... then his keyboard seems to freeze .. numlock / caps doesn't light up ... mouse still works fine
[03:33] <rhavenn_> thoughts?
[03:34] <rhavenn_> laptop; inspiron 8100
[03:34] <Hobbsee> rhavenn_: fixed by logging out and back in?
[03:34] <thompa> how do i check my screen resolution?
[03:35] <rhavenn_> Hobbsee-> no..he's rebooted a few times..works fine under windows
[03:35] <Hobbsee> rhavenn_: interesting.  different bug then.
[03:35] <noiesmo> rhavenn_, before he logs in can he switch to terminal Ctrl+Alt+F2
[03:36] <noiesmo> rhavenn_, can he type here
[03:36] <noiesmo> rhavenn_, maybe theres something happen to a config file for kde maybe in his home/user/.kde/share/config folder
[03:36] <thompa> found it
[03:37] <thompa> why kde remove desktop res. option from desktop right click
[03:39] <Hobbsee> thompa: er, was it ever there?
[03:39] <rhavenn_> thanks guys... he had "Use slow keys" turned on the "Accesibility
[03:39] <rhavenn_> " section of KDE ....
[03:40] <Hobbsee> most people dont regularly change their resolution...
[03:40] <Hobbsee> rhavenn_: ah, that'd do it
[03:41] <thompa> im not sure what the problem was, but screen was acting funny a 1440x900, on an nvidia 660
[03:42] <thompa> so i am now running that monitor on a laptop with nvidiago6200
[03:43] <thompa> just changing the resolution to 1440x900 ansd set it as primary
[03:43] <thompa> so in my box i think i have 2 broken PCs, one motherboard i think
[03:44] <thompa> so im going to switch motherboards bla bla bla
[03:45] <kie> i want to update my kubuntu breezy to dapper...
[03:45] <kie> can i do it without burning a cd?
[03:45] <kie> i found a way doing it with ubuntu...
[03:46] <kie> but it doesn't work this way with kubuntu, does it?
[03:46] <Hobbsee> kie: yes, but you have to use the command line
[03:46] <Hobbsee> as in, you cant use the updater app
[03:47] <kie> is there an article in the wiki?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !upgrade
[03:48] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[03:48] <Hobbsee> i think so
[03:48] <Hobbsee> kie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades#head-0171d3953a2ea19e9b4228bcd5cde3ecfb67f7af
[03:50] <azzco> okay I've installed proftpd here...I don't understand how to connect though
[03:51] <Lisoe> hi
[03:51] <azzco> hello
[03:52] <Lisoe> is there a console command for opening the panel-options?
[03:53] <Lisoe> or a hotkey for unhiding it
[03:53] <azzco> don't look at me I'm a noob =/
[03:53] <Lisoe> :\
[04:02] <noiesmo> anyone got lives - Linux Video Editing System installed on kubuntu dapper i'm getting dependency problems
[04:03] <Wanderer> anyone have an idea on when the next kernel comes out?
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> The latest one has only just been released so probably at least a few months
[04:05] <Hobbsee> Wanderer: it's out.  it'll be in edgy, released in october.
[04:07] <Wanderer> Hobbsee: will it be backported to dapper?  Hoping it'll fix the suspend2ram problem
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Wanderer: no.  patches will be, though, i expect
[04:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> noiesmo: i'd like to see that!!
[04:10] <noiesmo> Tallia1Kubuntu, whats that
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> How are you trying to install it ?
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> and from which package
[04:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> noiesmo: Linux Video Editing System
[04:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> since kino doesn't really do a good work
[04:12] <noiesmo> Tallia1Kubuntu, havent tried kino but lives doesnt like my dapper
[04:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Oh, lives exists?
[04:13] <noiesmo> Tallia1Kubuntu, theres also one called diva
[04:13] <noiesmo> Tallia1Kubuntu, http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=downloads
[04:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> noiesmo: :D
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> Are you using the dapper repository or building it yourself ?
[04:15] <noiesmo> who me
[04:15] <noiesmo> repo
[04:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: is it in the dapper rep?
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> No - it has its own repo - but it wants to install 65 packages which I think will probably mess quite alot of stuff up
[04:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> noiesmo: what's the name of the package? apt-cache search lives can't give me anything
[04:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: so what do you suggest to do?
[04:20] <noiesmo> Tallia1Kubuntu, thats it
[04:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[04:21] <noiesmo> Tallia1Kubuntu, i do have a debian multimedia repo in my sources i know i should but anyway maybe its comeing from there and thats the prob
[04:22] <Vose> I tryed installing a .deb using dpkg and sudo sh but it did not work the is the "sh" comand right?
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> just use sudo dpkg -i
[04:22] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:22] <noiesmo> sudo
[04:22] <KDEfanboy> i installed some packages with adept, but my /var/log/aptitude file is 0 byte. where is the log file of package system changes made using adept?
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> KDEfanboy: Doesn't exist
[04:23] <Vose> ok just sudo dpkg -i "filename"
[04:23] <KDEfanboy> how about a log for apt?
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> KDEfanboy: The only thing that does that is aptitude (with dependancies)
[04:29] <Vose> I did the sudo dpk -i but how do I run the program now?
[04:31] <Vose> and how do I put a link in my kmenu?
[04:32] <Vose> anyone to help a commplet noob?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> Vose: right click kmenu, kmenu editor
[04:37] <Vose> but I don't know were to find the program after installed  Hobbsee
[04:37] <Hobbsee> just type the name of the program in - you dont need to know where it is
[04:38] <Vose> tryed that
[04:39] <Vose> but nothing how do I know if it did install
[04:40] <Vose> Unpacking replacement glgo ...
[04:40] <Vose> Setting up glgo (1.4) ..
[04:40] <Vose> so then I write in glgo
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello All
[04:42] <mindspit> how can i edit .po files ? for word press blog
[04:44] <yurtboy> any reason why kdm will not work after install kubuntu (from regular ubuntu) dapper?  It will only login in failsafe other wise gnome and xfce and kde sessions just seem like they are staring then it comes back to kdm login?
[04:44] <yurtboy> gdm works though
[04:46] <rohan> i changed some startup options using sysv-rc-conf .. removed services like evms and hplip .. now on shutdown, the usplash doesnt go all the way back .. just half way, and tells me to power down. this system doesnt have acpi support so it doenst shutdown automatically .. and it always leaves me confused since it wont go all the way back .. any remedy ?
[04:50] <rohan> no idea anyone ?
[04:50] <rohan> :(
[04:51] <Wanderer> anyone know if you can extend the timeout perioud on an automount ?
[04:52] <bobstro-away> rohan:  you mean the progress bar doesn't move all the way?
[04:53] <rohan> bobstro: yes, while shutting down
[04:54] <rohan> and it comes up after a little while, such that i do see _some_ messages while shutting down
[04:54] <rohan> didnt happen on the livecd
[04:54] <rohan> was it a mistake, changing stuff with sysv-rc-conf ?
[04:54] <bobstro> is it hanging, or just finishing without moving it all the way?
[04:55] <bobstro> rohan:  i wouldn't think that would break anything serious.
[04:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> has anybody in here ever used palantir?
[04:56] <rohan> bobstro: exactly
[04:56] <rohan> bobstro: and even if it did, i need to disable sh*t like evms and lvm and hplip :S
[04:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  if i start the palantir server on my computer on port 3000, how can i check if that port have really been taken?
[04:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried with netstat -a | grep 3000 but nothing appears.. (3000 is the palantir port)
[04:59] <Vose> After a program "glgo" is installed if it will not run "glgo: command not found" what do i do?
[05:01] <Vose> Hi?
[05:01] <bobstro> rohan:  again, i'd verify that it's not just hung first. other than that, not sure.
[05:01] <bobstro> i've got a serious problem. if i hit shift-backspace, it kills my x server just like ctrl-alt-backspace is supposed to.
[05:02] <noiesmo> !xmodmap
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmodmap
[05:02] <jpatrick> bobstro: odd
[05:02] <rohan> bobstro: no, my pc is completely shut down, like num lock wont work and all .. and a distinct "tut" sound that sounds when my pc shuts off
[05:03] <bobstro> jpatrick:  yeah, i found out in the middle of writing a long email response!
[05:03] <Vose> Anyone know how to verify an installation?
[05:04] <Vose> is there a command or something?
[05:04] <Vose> Or can I go to the folder where it would be installed and check?
[05:04] <Vose> And were would that be?
[05:05] <Vose> is it too early on friday?
[05:06] <bobstro> Vose:  what do you mean "verify"?
[05:06] <bobstro> anyone have an idea where the "ctrl-alt-backspace" behavior is set?
[05:06] <bobstro> this is a new one for me
[05:06] <Vose> like it will not run after I did the dpkg -
[05:07] <Vose> Unpacking replacement glgo ...
[05:07] <Vose> Setting up glgo (1.4) ...
[05:08] <Vose> bobstro but if I type in "glgo" it says that it is not a command
[05:08] <reagleBRKLN> anyone use kerry? when it finds emails it says sender and title are "unkown" with kmail messages?
[05:09] <Vose> bobstro So I think I installed it but it will not run so that is what I ment by verify.
[05:12] <pekuja> Hi. Anyone tried using Google Video with konqueror and flashplugin-nonfree?
[05:12] <pekuja> I have some weird trouble with it, where I don't get a picture at all
[05:12] <pekuja> I get sound just fine, but no picture.
[05:12] <pekuja> There's just nothing there.
[05:12] <pekuja> sometimes it does work though. it's very random
[05:13] <pekuja> most of the time it doesn't work :-/
[05:13] <bobstro> Vose:  try "apropos glgo" perhaps?
[05:13] <Hhhhh> for some reason I don't get any sound in Planeshift (this is Kubuntu Dapper)
[05:15] <Vose> glgo: nothing appropriate.
[05:15] <Vose> bobstro wird that is all it said
[05:19] <pekuja> and yeah, the flash plugin works fine on any other page
[05:19] <pekuja> dunno what's special about google video
[05:25] <bencreekmore> for anyone who knows... how do i login to root from a fresh install?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[05:26] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:26] <gil> how do i set up a logitech quickcam/
[05:26] <gil> ?
[05:29] <gil> Hobbsee: any ideas? Logitech webcam?
[05:29] <Hobbsee> gil: none at all, sorry, apart from plug it in, and see if kopete finds it.
[05:30] <Wanderer> hmm.  anyone konw how to use autofs to "mount" or link a mounted filesystem?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !mount
[05:31] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[05:31] <Wanderer> I know how to mount filesystems, I need to know how to do something, if it's doable
[05:32] <Wanderer> basically, on my file server I have all my exported and smb-shared file systems in /mnt
[05:32] <KDEfanboy> is there a standard place to set iptables configuration to load on boot?
[05:32] <KDEfanboy> (for kubuntu)
[05:32] <Wanderer> I have 1 local disk though I mount in /media due to how often it is mounted/umounted
[05:33] <Wanderer> I want to keep it mounted in /media but then have a "link" generated by autofs in /mnt pointing to the /media spot
[05:33] <Wanderer> that way all my exported filesystems can stay in /mnt but this one won't keep getting unmounted, remounted
[05:33] <Wanderer> it screws up the fsck count
[05:36] <Wanderer> ah, -rw,hard,intr
[05:36] <Wanderer> instead of -fstype=auto
[05:40] <omega> The system:/media window could definitely use some improvements. For example when you try to mount a drive, and it's not found in fstab, it asks you to check if the drive has been connected properly. Why can't it add the drive to fstab after detecting the filesystem? Or at least give a better error message? :)
[05:43] <Fiyawerx> hey guys, can anyone help me come up with a good partitioning scheme for my hd to install kubuntu on?
[05:44] <raphink> Fiyawerx: what do you need ?
[05:44] <raphink> i.e. what is this machine for?
[05:45] <trappist> heh.  love the topic in #perl.  "Those asking to ask risk axing."
[05:45] <trappist> Fiyawerx: http://blog.linuxkungfu.org/blog/index.php?/archives/15-My-Partitioning-Preferences.html
[05:47] <Fiyawerx> oh sorry guys was afk
[05:47] <raphink> n
[05:47] <raphink> np
[05:47] <Fiyawerx> trappist: well, i have win xp on one partition, using about 100 gigs (for games) want to start using ubuntu for everything else really, downloading, just a normal OS
[05:47] <Fiyawerx> i have 150 gigs free
[05:48] <raphink> well then just install it by default
[05:48] <Fiyawerx> a partition that would be r/w by both win and kubuntu would be nice
[05:48] <raphink> don't worry about the partitionning scheme
[05:48] <raphink> get the desktop CD
[05:48] <raphink> start it
[05:48] <Fiyawerx> yep i have that one
[05:48] <Fiyawerx> im at the part where you select the hd :)
[05:48] <raphink> launch the installer and follow the steps
[05:48] <trappist> Fiyawerx: do the windows stuff on fat32 for that
[05:48] <raphink> using all free space to install
[05:48] <trappist> windows has no idea how to deal with linux filesystems
[05:49] <Fiyawerx> right
[05:49] <raphink> trappist: that's not right
[05:49] <trappist> you could theoretically install ubuntu on fat32 but that would be an insane nightmare
[05:49] <Fiyawerx> i think linux can't do ntfs right
[05:49] <raphink> you can use ext2/ext3 files very well in windows
[05:49] <raphink> not natively
[05:49] <raphink> but yet
[05:49] <omega> uniq: What was that command line command you could execute so I can start adept again without having to reboot? (adept crashed again and since the last time I spoke to you I've re-installed kubuntu)
[05:49] <trappist> raphink: there are ext* drivers for windows.  some are better than others.  some will hose your filesystem.  some cost money.  I haven't found the right one.
[05:49] <raphink> Fiyawerx: linux can read ntfs fine and write it experimentaly
[05:49] <trappist> well
[05:49] <gil> so...i have a logitech quickcam....any idea how to set this up?
[05:49] <Fiyawerx> ok this may be more my question then, how would I set up a separate partition for keeping my linux downloads on, in case i fubar up and want to reinstall the linux part
[05:50] <raphink> omega: start adept ???
[05:50] <trappist> Fiyawerx: make a fat32 for crossplatform stuff
[05:50] <raphink> adept is a graphical app... just go to System -> Adept
[05:50] <Fiyawerx> but i can't do that if i just tell it to use all the free space right?
[05:50] <omega> raphink: You cannot start adept again after it crashed. It leaves the repository or whatever open.
[05:50] <raphink> omega: just remove the lock
[05:50] <trappist> Fiyawerx: correct
[05:50] <raphink> don't remember where this is
[05:51] <raphink> omega: run sudo apt-get update
[05:51] <raphink> if it doesn't work, it'll tell you where to find the lock
[05:51] <omega> raphink: Good thinking. I think that's exactly what I asked uniq.
[05:51] <gil> anyone? quick cam?
[05:51] <raphink> and just remov e it
[05:51] <raphink> with sudo rm
[05:51] <omega> Unless you know of a way to do it via the graphical interface.
[05:51] <raphink> omega: nope
[05:51] <dr_willis> gil,  good luck. :P  do some googling for th e cam
[05:52] <omega> I hate adept. It's so slow because of the "lolz ajax! we thought you were pressing enter too often, so we removed that and made it auto filter!" thing. =/
[05:52] <oomph_> what is the command to install a .deb package?
[05:52] <raphink> omega: use apt-get in console then. I only use that
[05:52] <raphink> :)
[05:52] <gil> dr_willis: have u tried this to no avail?
[05:52] <raphink> oomph_: first question is : are you sure you need to install a deb package?
[05:52] <raphink> oomph_: otherwise it's dpkg -i, but think about whether you need it first
[05:52] <omega> I prefer to use a graphical interface.
[05:53] <raphink> omega: use synaptic, or kpackage
[05:53] <raphink> or ksynaptic
[05:53] <dr_willis> gil,  i got about 4 webcams - and can never get any of them to work
[05:53] <oomph_> raphink - yes, Im trying to install Opera and its not listed in the repositories
[05:53] <gil> oh my/...
[05:53] <gil> ok thanks....
[05:53] <raphink> oomph_: iirc opera is in multiverse
[05:53] <dr_willis> gil,  it all depends on the specific chipset the cam is using.
[05:53] <oomph_> hrmm i have multiverse enabled
[05:54] <gil> ye
[05:54] <omega> oomph_: after you've downloaded the debian file via opera's site you can just right-click on the package menu item from the submenu and select install.
[05:54] <Fiyawerx> trappist: so maybe do like 20 gigs for / ext3 and 100 for like /data at fat32?
[05:54] <gil> owill lookg for it
[05:54] <gil> thanks
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> opera 9 is released and wouldn't be in multiverse
[05:54] <omega> By default kubuntu tries to open debian packages with ark (for whatever weird reason)
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> Probably because deb's are ar files
[05:55] <raphink> omega: because deb is a compressed format is the reason. ark can read debs and edit them
[05:55] <oomph_> oh nice
[05:55] <oomph_> right clicking works thanks
[05:55] <raphink> yep :)
[05:55] <oomph_> right click install :)
[05:55] <Fiyawerx> oh i see, ubuntu uses /var to archive the packages installed too, hmm
[05:55] <omega> But wouldn't it make more sense to just pop-up a menu and ask what the user wants to do?
[05:55] <omega> I doubt many new users want to edit the package.
[05:55] <trappist> Fiyawerx: the numbers there are totally up to you - how much space you need for each thing.  but otherwise yeah, fat32 for your data and ext3/reiser/xfs/whatever for linux
[05:56] <Fiyawerx> trappist: thanks for that blog link, might go with pretty much a very similar setup that he explains there
[05:56] <raphink> omega: that is right. You can report a wish on malone for that
[05:56] <Fiyawerx> trappist: might as well give it a shot anyway :)
[05:56] <trappist> Fiyawerx: he=me :)
[05:56] <omega> oomph_: Sorry, my answer was a bit vague, glad you were able to figure it out. ;)
[05:56] <Fiyawerx> trappist: oh, well, kudos :)
[05:56] <omega> raphink: where can I go for that?
[05:57] <Fiyawerx> nice article
[05:57] <trappist> Fiyawerx: thanks, glad it helped
[05:57] <oomph_> omega: your advice helped
[05:57] <raphink> omega: https://launchpad.net/malone
[05:57] <omega> Yes, but I could have been clearer. :)
[05:57] <omega> Thanks raphink.
[05:57] <Fiyawerx> love this channel :)
[05:57] <omega> oomph_: do you use konversation?
[05:58] <Fiyawerx> trappist: don't suppose you use freenx do you?
[05:59] <trappist> Fiyawerx: I did once, but basically no
[05:59] <trappist> I'm an ssh guy
[05:59] <oomph_> omega : yes i do
[05:59] <Fiyawerx> nod, tryin to find a good way to access from work, i had ssh working but freenx gives me a huge headache hehe
[05:59] <oomph_> why do you ask?
[05:59] <omega> Then I think we both have a bit of a problem.
[06:00] <omega> How to make konversation open links in a new tab in opera.
[06:00] <omega> I currently don't know the answer yet.
[06:00] <raphink> omega: it uses kde defaults
[06:00] <raphink> iirc
[06:00] <raphink> omega: so just set kde default navigator
[06:00] <oomph_> ahh, where is that option listed?
[06:00] <Fiyawerx> trappist: you don't mention your swap partition in that list? how big is it?
[06:01] <raphink> oomph_: somewhere in systemsettings/kcontrol
[06:01] <raphink> imo
[06:01] <omega> raphink: I tried that option, but it just launches the URL in an existing tab. Which is not what I want.
[06:01] <oomph_> ok
[06:01] <trappist> Fiyawerx: swap size is a whole other article :)  mine is 1GB
[06:01] <raphink> systemsettings -> KDE components -> Default apps -> Web browser
[06:01] <oomph_> also, what are the command line arguements to extract a tarball?
[06:02] <oomph_> sorry still learning this is my first install :)
[06:02] <raphink> oomph_: for tar.gz  it's xvzf
[06:02] <dr_willis> oomph_,  tar xzvf (z may vary)
[06:02] <Fiyawerx> trappist: do you have a link for it? :)
[06:02] <raphink> oomph_: think about `man tar` when you need options/arguments for commands
[06:02] <omega> But you could also double click on the tarball and drag the files to the directory of your choice.
[06:02] <omega> Or right-click and select extract.
[06:02] <raphink> oomph_: even man:/tar in konqueror, it looks nicer :)
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> tar xvfz or tar xvfj (if you keep the z or the j at the end you don't get mixed up)
[06:03] <oomph_> ok
[06:03] <raphink> h3sp4wn: depends whether this is gz or bz2
[06:03] <raphink> it's not random ;)
[06:04] <Hawkwind> Hey there raphink
[06:04] <raphink> hi Hawkwind
[06:04] <trappist> Fiyawerx: the article doesn't actually exist.  it's just a contentious issue.  my personal rule of thumb is ram x 2
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> I know its not random at all but if I don't have the j at the end when i am doing a bz2 I always end up not getting it first try
[06:04] <raphink> hehe
[06:05] <trappist> h3sp4wn: heh that's pretty good
[06:05] <dr_willis> i normally set 512mb ram - and rarely have issues.
[06:05] <Fiyawerx> trappist: thanks again, will try that
[06:05] <Ank_186> hello - Lotus had its cross-tabluation; Excel has its pivot-table; does anyone know of a Linux spreadsheet application that performs this kind of function?
[06:05] <dr_willis> i also tend to set up a small swap file on each hard drive i got on a system.. ram x2 - gets to be 'silly' with some mondern systems
[06:06] <Fiyawerx> well, i have a gig of ram
[06:06] <Fiyawerx> using my hp media center desktop for this, hehe
[06:06] <trappist> Fiyawerx: the big linux spreadsheet app is gnumeric.  it's got lots of features, but I don't specifically know about pivot tables etc., but check that one out
[06:06] <omega> So raphink, the file that is locked is apparently /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:06] <omega> How do I unlock it?
[06:06] <raphink> yes that's it omega
[06:06] <trappist> Fiyawerx: my rule of thumb cuts off there - I won't make a swap partition bigger than 1GB
[06:06] <raphink> omega: delete it
[06:07] <raphink> it's an empty file
[06:07] <raphink> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:07] <omega> I believe uniq had a different solution.
[06:07] <raphink> well
[06:07] <Fiyawerx> trappist: Ank_186  for the spreadsheet info :)
[06:07] <raphink> you do as you want
[06:07] <raphink> removing it works
[06:07] <raphink> :)
[06:07] <trappist> oops
[06:07] <omega> I don't know if his method was better. I just seemed to remember that it was different of what you just said.
[06:08] <Fiyawerx> well, with any luck i'll be able to answer these questions for someone else someday lol
[06:08] <trappist> Fiyawerx: the idea is, if you're swapping 1GB, you're probably in an infinite loop and are screwed anyway, so more than 1GB (for most desktop applications) is just a waste of space
[06:08] <Fiyawerx> gotcha
[06:08] <Search4Lancer_> grrr..... Kaffeine keeps telling me no audio because the device is busy.... however, nothing is open that would be tying up the audio....?
[06:08] <raphink> omega: mine is straight but it doesn't break anything
[06:08] <imachine> Search4Lancer_, artsd ?
[06:08] <imachine> Search4Lancer_, `use artsd as output for kaffeine
[06:09] <ubuntu_> blob
[06:10] <ubuntu_> wtf?
[06:11] <Search4Lancer_> I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about... :-P
[06:11] <[BU] Brizz> does anyone know how to get an mp3 encoder into KAudioCreator?
[06:11] <raphink> install lame [BU] Brizz
[06:11] <[BU] Brizz> oh that's what Lame is lol
[06:11] <[BU] Brizz> I was like "WTF is Lame?"
[06:11] <[BU] Brizz> lol
[06:12] <imachine> Search4Lancer_, ps aux |grep artsd in a terminal; if artsd is running, it takes over the sound device. if you dont have a hardware mixer on your card, you cant use anything else unless you do some software mixing which i dont remember the name of in linux
[06:12] <raphink> [BU] Brizz: which doesn't prevent you from being polite, of course
[06:12] <imachine> Search4Lancer_, so you ought tu select artsd as output in kaffeine, or whatever you wish to use to play audio.
[06:12] <oomph_> any of you run the eyebeam sip client?
[06:12] <[BU] Brizz> hehe thanks raphink
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> Search4Lancer_: With alot of cards you can get better performance without artsd
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> has to be ext right?
[06:13] <raphink> [BU] Brizz: was not about that, but nm ;)
[06:13] <Fiyawerx> er /
[06:13] <[BU] Brizz> raphink: I know, I was just showing appreciation which there seems to be little of in here lately lol
[06:13] <raphink> hehe :)
[06:15] <mindspit> disqusting error of kded (kde deamon):  Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[06:15] <mindspit> what shall i do ?
[06:15] <mindspit> popps out million errors !
[06:15] <raphink> what eles does it say?
[06:16] <raphink> argh
[06:16] <raphink> I'd say kill kded and restart it
[06:16] <raphink> killall kded && kded
[06:17] <mindspit> as what user ?
[06:17] <[BU] Brizz> freak KAudioCreator is frikkin slow
[06:17] <raphink> mindspit: as yourself
[06:17] <raphink> kded is a userspace daemon iirc
[06:18] <raphink> doesn't require to be root
[06:22] <omega> raphink: Your method failed. I still cannot start adept after removing the file.
[06:23] <raphink> omega: really?
[06:23] <raphink> omega: can you run sudo apt-get update ?
[06:23] <omega> I can.
[06:23] <omega> But I cannot start adept and update via that, nor can I install software.
[06:24] <[BU] Brizz> does adpet start?
[06:24] <omega> Yes, but it gives me the notice that I cannot update or install programs.
[06:24] <[BU] Brizz> I had that problem the other day...
[06:24] <[BU] Brizz> isn't there a apt-get --fixinstall command or something?
[06:24] <Bazzi> adept is seriously bad :-(
[06:24] <omega> uniq: once gave me a command I could execute which fixed it.
[06:24] <omega> Yeah, Bazzi. It sucks.
[06:25] <noiesmo> apt-get -f install or apt-get install --fix-missing
[06:25] <raphink> you're lucky mornfall is not here today :p
[06:25] <raphink> noiesmo: that won't remove the lock file
[06:25] <raphink> iirc
[06:25] <omega> Why?
[06:25] <[BU] Brizz> it might
[06:25] <[BU] Brizz> try running that omega
[06:25] <raphink> i'd be surprised
[06:25] <[BU] Brizz> --fix-missin
[06:25] <[BU] Brizz> g
[06:26] <omega> It doesn't fix anything.
[06:26] <raphink> -f is to fix missing dependencies and half installed packages
[06:26] <[BU] Brizz> yesterday one of the repositories wasn't responding so I ctrl-c it and then Adept wouldn't open and let me do anything
[06:27] <omega> I wasn't installing any packages, adept just crashed and when I tried to start it again, it gave me that message.
[06:27] <[BU] Brizz> did you try 'ps aux | grep adept' and see if a process is still running?
[06:28] <raphink> sudo killall adept
[06:28] <raphink> then try to launch it again
[06:28] <omega> no process killed
[06:28] <omega> I'll just reboot later.
[06:28] <l3u> Greetings, are there any easy ways to remaster the live cd? I would like to test integrating the vmwareplayer
[06:28] <raphink> omega: and does apt-get run fine?
[06:29] <omega> Yes, that's what I told you earlier.
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> l3u: Its not easy (especially with kubuntu as there is only 4mb free)
[06:30] <[BU] Brizz> omega: have you tried rebooting?
[06:30] <omega> That's what I'm going to do later.
[06:30] <[BU] Brizz> well something has got to be holding a lock
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> l3u: You can extract the casper/something.squashfs and chroot into it then remake it using mksquashfs
[06:30] <[BU] Brizz> I think this might be one of those ultra-rare instances where rebooting might help
 So I extract, chroot and tweak to my taste, the mksquashfs? Wow, I like that!
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> l3u: Its in squashfs-tools
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> l3u: I used this line to make the cd again (so it was bootable) sudo mkisofs -r -V "Custom XUbuntu Live CD" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o /mnt/xubuntu-sam.iso /mnt/isofiles (But I was using xubuntu)
 Ok, I will copy out and save. Thx.
[06:35] <h3sp4wn> l3u: There was something I did to update the md5 checksums but I don't know whether it was needed
[06:36] <weedar> Grub doesn't show me a menu with the different boot-options, it just wait until the timout has passed and boots the default one. How can I make it show the menu?
[06:36] <[BU] Brizz> weedar: probably press ESC
[06:37] <weedar> [BU] Brizz: fine, but I would like it to always show the menu :)
[06:37] <[BU] Brizz> weedar: ah ;)
[06:37] <[BU] Brizz> weedar: it's in your menu.lst
[06:38] <[BU] Brizz> ## hiddenmenu
[06:38] <[BU] Brizz> # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[06:38] <[BU] Brizz> #hiddenmenu
[06:38] <[BU] Brizz> oops
[06:38] <[BU] Brizz> okay well anyways, comment out that hiddenmenu line in yours
[06:38] <Search4Lancer_> hurray, I've finally solved my apt problems!
[06:38] <[BU] Brizz> weedar: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <weedar> thanks [BU] Brizz!
[06:39] <weedar> I was looking through that file but for some reason I couldn't see it, although it was basically shouting at me :D
[06:40] <nico8481> lo
[06:40] <MehAdult> How do I set up an account that doesn't have a password?
[06:40] <[BU] Brizz> weedar: no problem
[06:44] <Fiyawerx> ok, doing the dapper install, i went through and created all the partitions im going to need for like /, swap, home, var
[06:44] <Fiyawerx> and on the next screen, its only giving me an opiton to choose 3 mount points
[06:45] <Fiyawerx> one has to be / and one swap, and the third i can pick /home, /var, whatever, but i can't do them both
[06:45] <Fiyawerx> and the partition i made with linux-swap format doesnt even show up as selectable for the swap drive
[06:46] <oomph_> yeah, I got opera to work with konversation
[06:46] <oomph_> it was in the KDE settings
[06:49] <weedar> Fiyawerx: weird problem. I guess a workaround would be to mount /var now and after install copy the contents of /home to the partition you are going to use as home and then mount it "manually"?
[06:50] <Fiyawerx> it's strange it wont even let me pick the part i did for swap
[06:50] <Fiyawerx> its only listing 2 primarys (my windows), and 1 logical (the 15 gig part i made for root)
[06:50] <Fiyawerx> as my "options" to mount
[06:52] <Fiyawerx> going to reboot and see if it'll do it the second time ok
[06:52] <Fiyawerx> now that they're all formatted and whatnot
[06:54] <Fiyawerx> do filesystems like /var and swap have to be logical or primary partitions?
[06:54] <diiiego> hi there
[06:55] <l3u>  <h3sp4wn>: Does the ubuntu live perform comparible to knoppix?
[06:55] <diiiego> somebody has any idea of why when i get in the console mode with ctrl-alt-f1 from KDE, the only thing that i can see is a black screen? it is kinda of a big problem
[06:56] <diiiego> this problem appeared when i installed the nvidia drivers. Is there anything i can do?
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> l3u: Its dog slow I think if I was going to use a live cd I would use the kanotix one because it is actually useably quick
[06:57] <diiiego> muahahahahahahah
[06:59] <deuce868> couple of questions for you guys. How can I shrink the icons in the kde menu so that I can shrink the menu size down?
[07:00] <deuce868> and 2) I like to have my IM program on All Desktops. Is there any way to set that on startup of the app?
[07:01] <HedgeMage> deuce868: What IM program is it? some have an option to "show on all desktops" or "set sticky" or somesuch on startup
[07:02] <deuce868> HedgeMage, Gaim
[07:02] <weedar> diiiego: do you also get a blank screen with ctr-alt-f2, ctr-alt-f3 and so on?
[07:02] <HedgeMage> sorry, I haven't used gaim in a while so I'm not sure.  You can always ask in #gaim or somesuch
[07:03] <HedgeMage> also, I'm not a huge KDE person, there may be a way to make KDE remember it for you
[07:04] <diiiego> yes in any combination
[07:04] <Fiyawerx> wow, well, found out what my partition problem was
[07:04] <Fiyawerx> guess its a known problem with the formatter in the live cd installer
[07:05] <Fiyawerx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186309 in case anyones interested
[07:05] <diiiego> i saw in different forum that the problem is in the xorg.conf...... if i set "nv" the console mode start but if i use the driver "nvidia" i've this problem
[07:05] <erik__> how can I sync my Nokia 6280 with Kontact (I want to sync addres book and calendar)
[07:08] <uniq> omega: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock' is the command.
[07:08] <uniq> that won't help if you have deleted the file, i guess.
[07:10] <jvz> how do I use cdebootstrap with Ubuntu?  there's absolutely NO friggin' documentation about this damn program
[07:11] <jpatrick> jvz: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DebootstrapChroot
[07:11] <jvz> thanks
[07:15] <bobstro> i found the fix for my shift+backspace killing xserver (xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us). i need that to run on every X startup. i'm thinking it should run before user login, so is there a better place than ~/.xsession?
[07:15] <srunni> hey i have ubuntu and i just installed the "kubuntu-desktop" thing. how do i switch to kde?
[07:17] <uniq> srunni: depends on if you want the KDE Login Manager, or just want to start KDE from the GNOME Login Manager?
[07:20] <uniq> bobstro: i recommend keeping it in .xsession
[07:20] <omega> thanks uniq
[07:21] <erik__> when trying to mount a memory card I have in KDE, over usb, I get an error saying that sda1 is a bad superblock, what do I do wrong?
[07:21] <apokryphos> eric__: wrong filetype
[07:21] <omega> It did do the trick though. :)
[07:22] <uniq> bobstro: you can however, add it to /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup if you really want to run it before KDM shows.
[07:22] <apokryphos> erik__: *
[07:25] <bobstro> uniq:  i think it is probably related to my keyboard type not being set correctly during configuration (at the xserver level), since it restarts at gdm or kdm same way (with shift+backspace). i'd like to find the "correct" way to fix it, although this is a workaround.
[07:25] <omega> Am I right by thinking that if you don't use the display configuration menu in KDE to set up the graphics card and monitors but instead write the files yourself, it'll break the module?
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> bobstro: The correct way to fix it is don't use Xgl
[07:26] <bobstro> h3sp4wn:  oh? do you have a pointer for more info?
[07:26] <erik__> where under /dev do I find my USB connection?
[07:26] <omega> Resulting in this; http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/brokendisplay.png
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> bobstro: That only happens with Xgl as far as I know
[07:27] <bobstro> h3sp4wn:  ah, THANK YOU. i've been searching, but adding "xgl" to the query was the key. i'm reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140658. thanks!
[07:27] <Fiyawerx> and woohoo, i have bootup, lol
[07:28] <Fiyawerx> now for my wifi and i can eat breakfast
[07:29] <g-henna> hi everyone!
[07:29] <g-henna> i am on kubuntu dapper with an ati mobility radeon x700 and until i upgraded to dapper a few days ago, everything went fine with breezy+fglrx
[07:29] <omega> Hi, Dr. Nick.
[07:29] <g-henna> now it doesn't do any more :-)
[07:29] <g-henna> i apt-got the kubuntu fglrx-packages and reworked the xorg.conf as described in the ubuntu wiki. in my xorg.0.log, everything looks fine, no WW or EE lines. and though, fglrxinfo gives "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org"
[07:30] <Fiyawerx> after you make a change to /etc/modprobe.d/options, is there a way to reload stuff without rebooting?
[07:39] <chillfaktor> einer ne kostenlose idee wie man windoof inem fenster komplett emulieren kann? win4lin is kostenpflichtig ...
[07:40] <Hawkwind> chillfaktor: Mind putting that in English
[07:41] <Fiyawerx> if you connect to your wireless network with wep via the internet -> Wireless assistant
[07:41] <Fiyawerx> should it automatically connect if you reboot?
[07:41] <Fiyawerx> or do you have to do smething special to make it so
[07:42] <chillfaktor> oh sry! thought it is a german server ... i asked if someone has a good ide how to emulate windows under kubuntu ... you have to pay for win4lin and thats the only prog i know which does ...
[07:42] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: wine
[07:42] <chillfaktor> wine is just a console prog, am i right?
[07:42] <Bazzi> no
[07:43] <chillfaktor> hm
[07:43] <chillfaktor> i'll search and install, thanks for this time :)
[07:44] <Bazzi> you have to add a repository for the latest version though
[07:44] <Bazzi> and you /need/ the latest version
[07:44] <chillfaktor> thats the V....???
[07:45] <chillfaktor> i've installed version 0.0.20050725 ... i think ...
[07:45] <omega> How can I make my bash completion add an extra space when I auto complete programs? This way I don't have to press space whenever it finds a program.
[07:45] <Bazzi> 0.9.16 is what's current
[07:45] <Fiyawerx> or if i could get it to auto-connect on login to kde that'd be fine too
[07:46] <Fiyawerx> but as it isi need to go in and click the network to join every time
[07:46] <chillfaktor> damn ... adept seems to have just this version
[07:46] <chillfaktor> hm i'll search
[07:47] <chillfaktor> and btw, >>> repository <<<, i don't know this word, sry, and without it, the scentense doesn't has any meaning :D
[07:49] <jpatrick> !repository
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about repository
[07:49] <jpatrick> !repo
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about repo
[07:49] <Hawkwind> Repository = A place where apps/debs are kept
[07:49] <Fiyawerx> oh nice, you have to add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[07:49] <Fiyawerx> awesome
[07:50] <Leafw> anyone on powerpc, how can one swap the control and command keys? It's trivial in kubuntu (KDE), but I can't find any keyboard option for that in gnome.
[07:51] <uniq> leafw: i don't know for GNOME, try #ubuntu.
[07:51] <uniq> I do it in KDE too :)
[07:52] <Leafw> uniq : I wanted to try gnome (so far I like it, ehem)
[07:52] <Pupeno> Hello.
[07:52] <Leafw> I'm running kubuntu though, with an apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Leafw: system>prefferences>keyboard shortcuts
[07:52] <uniq> leafw: that would be much about the same as an Ubuntu installation
[07:53] <gnomefreak> it might be in admin but im sure prefferences
[07:53] <Leafw> gnomefreak : not really, for swapping the control there is the caps lock and the alt, but not the "super" or command/apple key.
[07:53] <Leafw> gnomefreak : when I try to enter command+w for "close window" in the keyboard shortcuts, only the "super" gets entered, the w is always left out (bug?)
[07:54] <gnomefreak> not sure i didnt see the ppc part of it
[07:54] <Leafw> gnomefreak : for closing a window you use a script ?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Leafw: ff window?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> gnome window? irc window?
[07:55] <uniq> all windows, i guess.
[07:55] <gnomefreak> i had one that closed ff for me
[07:55] <Pupeno> [OT]  Can anybody help me understanding a page that is in German: http://tinyurl.com/qgufq it is for renting a house, I don't understand the pricing, is 253.52  by which amount of time ?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> not gnome windows in general no too damn many different ones
[07:56] <Leafw> gnomefreak : a "window" in the window manager, not a fake BitchX window or screen (as in screen -r) window or vim/emacs window.
[07:56] <Leafw> gnomefreak : do you know which modX key is control? mod1 or mod2 ?
[07:57] <uniq> you want a shortcut to close a window, like alt+f4.
[07:57] <Leafw> or os it its own ?
[07:57] <Leafw> uniq : alt+f4 is windows, I'm used to control+w
[07:57] <Leafw> well, command+w
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Leafw: not off hand but im wondering if you cant configure it in xorg.config
[07:58] <uniq> leafw: i know, but that's the function you want, right?
[07:58] <uniq> leafw: with 'xmodmap' in terminal/konsole you get the mods listed.
[07:58] <Leafw> gnomefreak : I am thinking of a xmodmap, but I never found the docs for which key is which and remains part sourcery
[07:58] <Leafw> uniq : yes.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> mod4
[07:59] <uniq> leafw: 'xev' will tell you the keycode of your key.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> mod4=superkey
[07:59] <andyakadum> anyone know how to install headless?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> andyakadum: you have to have some type of screen connected to it to install it you can pull it off after its set up
[08:00] <andyakadum> um... thats a problem for me
[08:00] <gnomefreak> andyakadum: how are you gonna choose an option without seeing what they are?
[08:01] <Leafw> gnomefreak : ok thanks.
[08:01] <Fiyawerx> what the heck
[08:01] <andyakadum> Maybe I could install on the drive using an external enclousure that fit it in?
[08:01] <|lostbyte|> Help !
[08:01] <Fiyawerx> after doing the first set of updates my lan card went away :(
[08:01] <|lostbyte|> I need to know why i am getting so slow speed..
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> andyakadum: You can use the netboot/mini.isoto install over a serial console
[08:02] <|lostbyte|> Adsl connection..
[08:03] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: slow doing what?
[08:03] <Fiyawerx> hmm this is not good
[08:04] <ueulo> Hello,whats the command for edit in console i use kubuntu
[08:04] <chillfaktor> insttaled wine, started xwine with sudo, bound the setup.exe of the windows cd and the program hangs up :D i'll try and try ... oh i love linux ^^
[08:04] <gnomefreak> ueulo: you can use sudo kate /path/to/file
[08:05] <Fiyawerx> anyone know what would cause a wifi card to just not show up anymore?
[08:05] <ueulo> thx gnomefreak
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> You should use kdesu over sudo for gui apps
[08:05] <uniq> ueulo: in konsole you can use 'editor' too. (editor defaults to 'nano' in kubuntu.)
[08:05] <gnomefreak> yes i forgot kate was qt
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak, need you help dude.. my speed is only 100 Kbps which is really 256 kbps
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak, I need to you help me debug this..
[08:06] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: doing what? downloading? browsing web? uploading?
[08:06] <Fiyawerx> hm this worked fine yesterday too, don't want to reinstall again
[08:07] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: if its only downloading try a different mirror
[08:07] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak, tryed siff files..
[08:07] <|lostbyte|> diff*
[08:07] <|lostbyte|> and also bandwidth test.. all result in the same..
[08:07] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: maybe ISP is having issues?
[08:08] <h3sp4wn> If it works under mandriva properly - have a look at how it is configured there and compare it to how it is setup now
[08:08] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: reset modem/reboot is internal modem and see if it fixes it
[08:08] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak, Nope ! I called.. and they said everything is normal..
[08:08] <gnomefreak> s/is/if
[08:08] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak, Done that 7 times.
[08:08] <gnomefreak> brb drink
[08:09] <Fiyawerx> anyone using netgear wg311v2 card?
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak, Go Ahead.. i'll be right here. Just While ou drink think about my problem..
[08:10] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: are you on a duel boot system?
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: It is prism 54 based ?
[08:10] <dontknow> how can i kill a <defunct> process ?
[08:11] <gnomefreak> dontknow: find the pid of it and kill -9 <pid>
[08:11] <dontknow> i tried
[08:11] <gnomefreak> reboot?
[08:11] <dontknow> dont like that option :(
[08:11] <gnomefreak> either do i but if kill -9 <pid> wont kill it good luck
[08:12] <dontknow> pff :(
[08:12] <uniq> dontknow: you'll have to find it's parent or child
[08:12] <dontknow> ?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> what is the app
[08:12] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: not sure how to tell, it was just working perfect 2 minutes ago until i did the adept updates
[08:12] <dontknow> the bittorent didnt work
[08:12] <dontknow> so i closed it
[08:12] <Fiyawerx> now when i go to system settings i only see eth0
[08:12] <dontknow> but the proces was still runing
[08:12] <gnomefreak> dontknow: azureus?
[08:12] <dontknow> so i killed it from terminal
[08:12] <dontknow> bittornado
[08:13] <gnomefreak> ah
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: does it appear if you run /sbin/ifconfig -a
[08:13] <dontknow> after killing it
[08:13] <dontknow> its this : 22103 ?        Zl     4:41 [btdownloadgui]  <defunct>
[08:13] <gnomefreak> dontknow: try killall bittornado
[08:13] <uniq> dontknow: ps -ef --forest | less
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: You haven't just changed to the 686 kernel or anything have you ?
[08:13] <uniq> dontknow: find it's connection and kill it.
[08:13] <Fiyawerx> i just booted, logged in, connected it to my network, and ran apt-get update and installed what it wanted to
[08:13] <Fiyawerx> fresh install
[08:14] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: doesn't show on ifconfig -a, no
[08:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> hey , whats the command to install stuff from tar.bz2?
[08:14] <uniq> n0cturnal-fiend: depends. you can unpack it with 'tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2' in konsole.
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: It is not using ndiswrapper or any restricted fimware as far as you know
[08:15] <dontknow> uniq: it is in kdeinit :)
[08:15] <dontknow> does it mean i have to restart pc ?
[08:15] <uniq> n0cturnal-fiend: to install it you'll need to read som documentation. INSTALL or README are often included. Take a look at it.
[08:15] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: correct
[08:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> uniq: looking , ty
[08:15] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: i had to change one setting to get it to work the first time, in /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:16] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: it was still showing up at least, now its like its not even there
[08:16] <uniq> dontknow: no, try to kill the kdeinit process. 'kill -9 pidmake sure you use the correct pid, and nothing like 'killall -9 kdeinit' or something.
[08:16] <dontknow> k
[08:16] <uniq> dontknow: that's 'kill -9 pid'
[08:18] <Fiyawerx> damn, was hoping to have access running from work now i have a whole new problem
[08:18] <Fiyawerx> lspci shows it, but i don't even know where to start troubleshooting something like this one
[08:19] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: the network manager doesnt show it?
[08:19] <Fiyawerx> correct, gnomefreak
[08:20] <Fiyawerx> it did until i rebooted
[08:21] <stallion88> hi everybody
[08:21] <Fiyawerx> in KInfoCenter
[08:21] <Dragoonz> hello everyone
[08:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> does anyone know which file needs to be executed to strat swiftfox?
[08:21] <Fiyawerx> its showing right, but says "Subsystem: Netgear: Unknown device 4c00
[08:22] <uniq> fiyawerx: sounds like your driver doesn't get loaded.
[08:22] <Dragoonz> anyone here using AD and winbind to authenicate users?
[08:22] <stallion88> im having some troubles with listening music using audiphones
[08:22] <Fiyawerx> figures, just when im running out fo time, too hehe
[08:22] <Fiyawerx> no clue what updated that broke it tho
[08:23] <uniq> probably a kernel upgrade. did it use drivers from restricted-modules or something like that?
[08:23] <Fiyawerx> i uncommented all the stuff in my etc/apt/sources.list that couldn't verify during initial setup and ran apt-get update, so it did a bunch, and then splat
[08:23] <Fiyawerx> not sure how to tell
[08:23] <Fiyawerx> i think there was something in the update for the kenrel tho
[08:24] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: are you on 2.6.15-23 or -25
[08:24] <uniq> fiyawerx: do you use i386, k7 or i686 kernel image?
[08:24] <Fiyawerx> i386
[08:24] <Fiyawerx> how do i tell, gnomefreak
[08:24] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: uname -r
[08:24] <Fiyawerx> 2.6.15-25-386
[08:25] <gnomefreak> try booting into 2.6.15-23 to find out if its kernel or not ;)
[08:25] <Fiyawerx> will do
[08:25] <uniq> fiyawerx: then try to install 'linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386'
[08:25] <Leafw> uniq : there used to be a java 1.5 package for ppc, where is it? multiverse ?
[08:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone using swiftfox?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> yes that first
[08:26] <gnomefreak> Leafw: java is in multiverse yes
[08:26] <uniq> leafw: hmm.. i use one i downloaded and installed from IBM.
[08:26] <uniq> gnomefreak: 1.5 for powerpc?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> !java
[08:26] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[08:26] <Leafw> uniq : me too, the 1.4.2, but there was a 1.5 I installed and removed, and now I can't find it anymore.
[08:26] <uniq> leafw: hang on.
[08:27] <Fiyawerx> gnomefreak: yep
[08:27] <Fiyawerx> works fine in 23
[08:27] <uniq> leafw: i have ibm-j2re1.5 installed, but it's not in the official repositories.
[08:27] <Leafw> the ubotu java ubuntu help page doesn't list it
[08:27] <Leafw> uniq : where did you get it from (ibm pages are cluttered)
[08:27] <gnomefreak> nope just java-package
[08:27] <Fiyawerx> uniq: can i install that package while booted into the 23 kernel?
[08:27] <uniq> leafw: you have to get it from IBM and make the .deb yourself, with 'java-package' installed, and 'make-jpkg downloaded-file'
[08:27] <gnomefreak> you have to get it from ibm if im reading thsi right
[08:28] <uniq> fiyawerx: sure.
[08:28] <Fiyawerx> anyone know the open sshd package offhand?
[08:28] <uniq> yes, you will have to get it yourself, from IBM.
[08:28] <uniq> fiyawerx: openssh-server
[08:30] <Fiyawerx> hmm can't seem to find that package uniq
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: did you isntall it?
[08:30] <bachstudies> hi everyone...I'm getting the following message when trying to update my repository list: W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[08:30] <gnomefreak> install even
[08:30] <Fiyawerx> gnomefreak: restricted modules?
[08:30] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: give me a sec ill help you with that
[08:30] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: thanks
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: no sorry i was thinking the ssh-server
[08:31] <Fiyawerx> yes
[08:31] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: i think you have to be booted to the kernel to install its modules package
[08:31] <Fiyawerx> uniq: i only see linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-*
[08:31] <Fiyawerx> oh
[08:31] <slow-motion> re
[08:31] <Fiyawerx> hmm, thats gonna be a problem tehn, cus the network wont work heh
[08:32] <gnomefreak> ok bach ill type the command you paste/type it in terminal?
[08:32] <bachstudies> sure
[08:32] <Fiyawerx> oh well, can leave it in 23 for now i guess
[08:32] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[08:33] <gnomefreak> let me know when doen
[08:33] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: ok done
[08:33] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -
[08:33] <uniq> fiyawerx: to make your network work you need to boot into the -23 kernel.
[08:34] <Fiyawerx> uniq: i did, but then i don't see the -25 restricted modules to install
[08:34] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: make sure you use the - at the end
[08:34] <Fiyawerx> only -23
[08:34] <Dragoonz> has anyone ever ran across volume /dev/evms/hdb1 need to be activated in there logs.
[08:34] <Fiyawerx> which are up to date
[08:34] <uniq> fiyawerx: does your network work in -23?
[08:34] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone using swiftfox?
[08:34] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: brilliant...seems to have done the trick
[08:34] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: if it says OK your good
[08:35] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: i used easyubuntu and shouldn't that register all the keys for me?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: i dont know but i doubt it
[08:35] <Fiyawerx> uniq: yes
[08:35] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: there is also this error message: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/./Release: No MD5Sum entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/people.ubuntu.com_%7ejbailey_snapshot_bzr_._Release
[08:36] <uniq> fiyawerx: then in konsole: 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install linux-resitrcted-modules-386'
[08:36] <Fiyawerx> uniq: already newest version
[08:36] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: do you plan on uploaded sources to launchpad for the devel team?
[08:36] <Fiyawerx> uniq: if i browse for restricted-modules in adept, i only see the ones for -23
[08:37] <uniq> fiyawerx: can't be, i can see that -25 is available here.
[08:37] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: nope!
[08:37] <gnomefreak> uniq: he has to be in that kernel
[08:37] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: iirc thats all that repo holds is software for that
[08:37] <Fiyawerx> and when i'm in that kernel i cant apt-get because no network
[08:38] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: what kernel are you in?
[08:38] <Fiyawerx> -23
[08:38] <uniq> gnomefreak: not to install the packages.
[08:38] <gnomefreak> uniq: for the restricted mods he does
[08:38] <uniq> apt can't control that.
[08:39] <bobstro> does update-manager not auto-run under kubuntu? is there an "offical" way to turn it on?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> they are only released with kernel version
[08:39] <uniq> it will simply pull the kernel it depends on too.
[08:39] <uniq> if it's not already installed.
[08:40] <Fiyawerx> well nothing for 25 is listed
[08:40] <uniq> fiyawerx: do you have 'linux-restricted-modules-386' installed? if not, please install it.
[08:40] <Fiyawerx> uniq: yes i do
[08:41] <Fiyawerx> and also linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386
[08:41] <uniq> fiyawerx: do you have dapper-security repositories enabled?
[08:41] <Fiyawerx> yes
[08:42] <uniq> fiyawerx: ok, run 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-386'
[08:42] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: thanks for all your help anyway!
[08:42] <omega> oomph_: Did you figure out how to make opera open a new tab yet?
[08:42] <chillfaktor> bazzi?
[08:42] <Bazzi> ya?
[08:42] <totof> hi everybody
[08:42] <Fiyawerx> uniq: newest version already
[08:42] <chillfaktor> could you open a query pls, don't wanna flood the chan ^^
[08:43] <Fiyawerx> and if i check it in adept, its version 2.16.15.22
[08:43] <uniq> fiyawerx: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386|grep -i installed
[08:43] <totof> I'm looking for some help about kubuntu please
[08:44] <Fiyawerx> unable to locate package
[08:44] <uniq> totof: please just ask in the channel.
[08:44] <totof> uniq: I do not understand what you are asking me
[08:45] <uniq> fiyawerx: .22 is not the newest one. .23 is.
[08:45] <Leafw> uniq : I've been through 20 pages for registering and these bastards have yet taken me to a java ibm page
[08:45] <chillfaktor> bazzi, when i mount the cd, and start the setup.exe of winxp with xwine, he starts to install, but in the middle of the installation he says he has a wrong filesystem to write on, you know the problem?
[08:45] <totof> uniq: (sorry I am french and I'm quite a noob in IRC and linux)
[08:45] <Leafw> it's ridiculous
[08:45] <uniq> totof: you're looking for help about kubuntu, I ask you to please just ask your question when ever you are ready :)
[08:46] <Fiyawerx> uniq: 23 is installed also
[08:46] <Fiyawerx> but ther is no 25 available
[08:46] <chillfaktor> i'm not able to tell him where to install it ...
[08:46] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: you didnt get the concept of wine... wine IS windows, no need to install windows
[08:46] <H0gan> I just installed the latest version of Kubuntu and I am trying to connect to the internet via dialup, however when I open Kppp dial-up program I get an error saying that it cannot read the resolv.conf from /ect it ask that an Administrtor add it but how do I go about it? Also, how do I get it to find my modem?
[08:47] <chillfaktor> yeah i know :D but i know that it is able to run windows in a window under linux ...
[08:47] <uniq> fiyawerx: the version numbers are kind of confusing. as linux-restricted-modules-386 is versioned 2.6.15.23 and depends on linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386 which is the version you want.
[08:47] <chillfaktor> thats what i'm searching for ...
[08:47] <gnomefreak> chillfaktor: just windows apps
[08:47] <Fiyawerx> uniq: ok linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386 is not listed anywhere
[08:47] <Fiyawerx> for me to choose
[08:47] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: use vmware for that.
[08:47] <gnomefreak> chillfaktor: vmware can install windows xp
[08:47] <Leafw> uniq : do you have the 1.5.0 tar ?
[08:47] <chillfaktor> thx a lot! (my guru :D)
[08:48] <Fiyawerx> im going to have to just leave it running in 23 for now, late for work :)
[08:48] <totof> uniq: you mean you want a precise question? Or you mean I have to wait until the current problem is solved? Or you mean maybe I'm not in the right channel?
[08:48] <uniq> h0gan: open konsole, and execute this command: 'sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf' now you have a /etc/resolv.conf file.
[08:48] <gnomefreak> totof: what is the problem?
[08:48] <H0gan> Thanks uniq.
[08:48] <Fiyawerx> is there a way to download the package manually, reboot into -25, and install it with dpkg?
[08:49] <gnomefreak> Fiyawerx: you can get the file from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <uniq> totof: ask whenever you are ready. You don't have to wait till the current problems are solved. It's easier for us to help you if you ask precise questions.
[08:49] <Fiyawerx> gnomefreak: thanks, i'll try that a bit later, gotta head to work now
[08:50] <totof> (sorry for the flood) my problem is that I'd like to use the command "make" and I do not know how to install or what to do to make my system recognize it
[08:50] <uniq> fiyawerx: i can't understand why your system doesn't find the correct package, as security.ubuntu.com doesn't have mirrors.
[08:50] <uniq> and i can see the correct version from all my test boxes.
[08:50] <rohan> i removed stuff from startup like lvm and evms using sysv-rc-conf and now during shutdown, the usplash doesnt go all the way to the right, it goes about mid way, which is damn confusing .. how can such a thing like removing services break it ?!
[08:50] <chillfaktor> vmware 4.5 is the latest one? or vmware workstation?
[08:51] <chillfaktor> 4.5 hm?
[08:51] <gnomefreak> i guess
[08:51] <chillfaktor> kk
[08:51] <gnomefreak> !vmware
[08:51] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[08:51] <gnomefreak> that will help you install it
[08:51] <chillfaktor> cool :D
[08:52] <Bazzi> vmware server 1.0.0 is the latest
[08:52] <Bazzi> and greatest
[08:54] <chillfaktor> kk
[08:55] <uniq> totof: in konsole, run 'sudo apt-get install build-essenti' - that will install a compiler and make for you.
[08:56] <totof> uniq:  thank you very much
[08:56] <uniq> totof: correction: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:56] <totof> understood
[08:56] <uniq> :)
[08:59] <chillfaktor> "Firstly you need to buy a license to use the VMWare software, and then ......" <<< :/ a must-be?
[08:59] <uniq> leafw: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html
[08:59] <Bazzi> chillfaktor it's free
[08:59] <chillfaktor> oh ok :)
[09:02] <spintaro> I have a friend that has a windows RAID set up under Nvidia drivers, that is having a problem mounting his RAID under linux, any ideas on what to do?
[09:03] <omega> oomph_: I figured it out. It's so stupid. =P
[09:17] <fiyawerx> ls
[09:22] <|lostbyte|> Is ivp4 a module ?
[09:22] <|lostbyte|> ipv4
[09:23] <fiyawerx> anyone using freenx?
[09:23] <nico8481> sometimes when i try to edit the text in the "find" input (right from the address bar), i position the cursor then try to write something, and the cursor automatically goes to the end of the text, adding what i type to the end of that text instead of where i positioned the cursor myself... anyone see what i mean/has the same problem?
[09:23] <nico8481> (in konqueror)
[09:24] <nico8481> the "google" input
[09:24] <fiyawerx> uniq: you still there? I think i know why i didn't see those updates, I do have the security repositories enabled, but not the restricted ones, I think
[09:25] <spintaro> !partition
[09:25] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:25] <spintaro> !mount
[09:25] <uniq> fiyawerx: ah, that explains it.
[09:25] <fiyawerx> so i just add the words restricted after main on the security lines, right?
[09:26] <uniq> fiyawerx: you want: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[09:26] <spintaro> whats the command for the mounting partitions help page?
[09:28] <uniq> spintaro: "man fstab" or "man mount" is it one of them?
[09:30] <Dragoonz-also> I think i have found a problem and i need to know how to resolve it... mainly i don't think that samba or winbind is running when i boot normally
[09:30] <Dragoonz-also> how would i go about making sure that Winbind and Samba start in the correct order
[09:31] <Dragoonz-also> and just fyi i'm trying to authenicate to AD and i'm about to use kinit username to get a kerberos key .. can see with klist
[09:32] <fiyawerx> do you still have that package name available that i needed? linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25
[09:32] <spintaro> Where is the web page that has the fstab help on it?
[09:33] <omeow> What do you want to do?
[09:34] <omeow> Perhaps you mean this? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[09:35] <H0gan> Anyone know how to connect to the internet using KPPP? Iv read the Handbook but it doesn't help much.
[09:36] <spintaro> Yep thanks omewo
[09:36] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:37] <H0gan> ...or does anyone know how to check your modem with Kubuntu?
[09:41] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: try lspci wich kind of modem?
[09:42] <H0gan> Well, I checked using windows and it said Comm3
[09:43] <H0gan> However, when I choose a comm3 modem type on Kubuntu it says it doesn't exist in /dev/
[09:43] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: try lspci in konsole
[09:43] <NKjoep> hi ppl
[09:43] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: sorry, but the modem is pci or usb?
[09:44] <NKjoep> kaffeine is very slow with vids... what can i do to speed it up?
[09:44] <NKjoep> any tips? :)
[09:44] <H0gan> Modem: ATI Tech. inc ATI SB4000 - AC'97 modem controller (rev02)
[09:45] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: it should work
[09:45] <H0gan> But what should I use under 'Modem Device'?
[09:45] <fiyawerx> uniq: after installing that restricted modules for -25, should that be it, or will i have to reconfigure something after reboot?
[09:45] <fiyawerx> im afraid to reboot if there's more i have to do, as i won't be able to ssh back in hehe
[09:45] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: try to find in kinfocenter
[09:45] <fiyawerx> but if just installing that package may do it, i'll give it a shot
[09:46] <H0gan> ilgattotrino: hmmm, ok.
[09:46] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: if you are luky it can say you wich tty is connected to te modem...
[09:48] <fiyawerx> oh well, here goes nothing
[09:51] <fiyawerx> uniq: woohoo, up and running on -25, that did it
[09:51] <H0gan> When I try connect with any of the tty modem devices it just says Modem Busy :\
[09:52] <ilgattotrino> H0gan: you can have a look also at the /var/log/messages file to see if it says where your modem is connected
[09:54] <DaSkreech>  /j #kopete
[09:54] <Dragoonz-also> does anyone here authenicate with a AD server for there users to login... i'm having trouble, i can get to it from single/recover mode and browse windows shares... i can not boot to the KDE login how ever and get logged in.
[09:56] <H0gan> Nah no luck there either. I'll just have to wait until next week when I get my wireless set up, should be able to find that connect. Thanks anyway ilgattotrino. :)
[09:57] <ilgattotrino> de nada
[10:02] <fiyawerx> hmm nice nomachine released a free 2 session nx server, gonna give that a shot
[10:02] <InteliWasp> any linux gods available to help me compile a wireless card driver?
[10:05] <InteliWasp> have i scared everyone away?
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> Help !
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> Need to know what possiblites can decrease internet speed ?
[10:07] <robotgeek> InteliWasp: which card?
[10:08] <fiyawerx> what advantages are there to using ndiswrapper? I find lots of posts about people using it to get their netgear card working, but mine works fine
[10:08] <fiyawerx> same card, even
[10:09] <InteliWasp> robotgeek: i finaly found the source code for my orinoco card
[10:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone using swiftfox?
[10:09] <admin_> hello, does anyone know how to get the Trash on the desktop?
[10:10] <wodger> as far as i under ndiswrapper is to get wireless cards running. when no linux drivers exist
[10:10] <fiyawerx> i wonder why everyones using it for the netgear wg311v2 then
[10:10] <wodger> pass
[10:11] <mike_student> anyone know how to put trash on the desktop?
[10:11] <wodger> i've used wireless for mac's and windows but this kubuntu is on a box that isn't wireless
[10:12] <fiyawerx> holy crap
[10:12] <fiyawerx> i am in heaven
[10:13] <fiyawerx> just installed nx and its working perfect, did it from the new deb's
[10:13] <wodger> cool
[10:13] <fiyawerx> and it IS fast
[10:17] <mike_student> can someone please help me - i have a simple query...
[10:18] <wodger> ask away maybe some one will no may be they will not mike
[10:19] <mike_student> okie dokie
[10:20] <mike_student> im using the new dapper drake version of kubuntu - any ideas how to get the trash applet onto the deskop?
[10:23] <bachstudies> does anyone know how to choose between two soundcards in kubuntu dapper? If I wanted a particular program to use my 2nd card how would i do it?
[10:24] <cossidhon> Hi, my tools menu in konqueror is suddenly empty. Any ideas?
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> bachstudies: tell it to use /dev/audio1 or /dev/dsp1 depending on the application
[10:25] <inteliwasp> ok back
[10:25] <bachstudies> h3sp4wn: when i start kde my 2nd card is default on the kmixer. Can I change that?
[10:26] <h3sp4wn> bachstudies: Somewhere in system settings sound system
[10:29] <fiyawerx> do you guys use gaim for your instant messenging needs?
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> why not kopete - at least it is kde native (I don't use im()
[10:31] <fiyawerx> oh, ok will try that, not familiar with all the K apps yet
[10:31] <fiyawerx> just getting used to it now
[10:31] <fiyawerx> and right now im a _very_ happy person :)
[10:31] <bachstudies> h3sp4wn: which one should i choose?
[10:31] <bachstudies> h3sp4wn: OSS or ALSS enlightenment etc???
[10:34] <alessandro_> Hi guys, a question: where kmail store it's local folders?
[10:34] <Hawkwind> I seem to be having an issue with the Kubuntu alternate installer.  It gets to the point of installing the kubuntu-desktop and it shows in alt-f4 that it's trying to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com and it can't as there is nothing there
[10:35] <Hawkwind> How can I get past this issue to finish the install ?
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> bachstudies: ALSA
[10:37] <slow-motion> re
[10:37] <MrObvious> alessandro_: .kmail?
[10:37] <MrObvious> I've never used it
[10:37] <Hawkwind> Anyone have any ideas on this issue ?
[10:38] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can k3b convert from flac to wav on the fly while burning a cd'
[10:38] <alessandro_> Found it! The path (for me) is: /home/alessandro/.kde/share/apps/kmail
[10:40] <MrObvious> Hawkwind: You think I would? :p
[10:40] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: No.  Just seems someone here should be able to answer the question
[10:41] <Hawkwind> This is going to drive me right back to Mandriva, which I do NOT want to do
[10:44] <fiyawerx> thanks for the kopete suggestion, i can get used to this
[10:46] <bachstudies> sorry another question...I'm trying to use tapioca (gtalk client) in dapper. I can clearly hear the other person but they can only hear very distorted noises (not even words). Any ideas?
[10:48] <Hawkwind> I seem to be having an issue with the Kubuntu alternate installer.  It gets to the point of installing the kubuntu-desktop and it shows in alt-f4 that it's trying to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com and it can't as there is nothing there
[10:48] <Hawkwind> How can I get past this issue to finish the install ?
[10:48] <fiyawerx> bachstudies: does your mic work with other programs?
[10:49] <bachstudies> yep
[10:49] <chillfaktor> Bazzi, i don't find a download link 4 vmware server 1.0, do you know where i'm able to get it faster as searching another 2 1/2 hours? ^^
[10:49] <bachstudies> audacity
[10:49] <bachstudies> fiyawerx: sorry yes audacity
[10:49] <fiyawerx> bachstudies: np, sorry, was just a thought, still new to a lot of this :)
[10:49] <chillfaktor> if not, doesn't matter ... but my be ... *hope* :P
[10:49] <chillfaktor> my be > maybe -.-'
[10:49] <bachstudies> fiyawerx: any other ideas?
[10:50] <fiyawerx> bachstudies: sorry, not sure, if you hang around someone may know tho, these guys have been great
[10:50] <fiyawerx> if it's a general question not specific to kde, might try in #ubuntu too, seems a little more active there usually
[10:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can k3b convert from flac to wav on the fly while burning a cd'
[10:53] <NoUse> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd I believe so
[10:53] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: by learning how to read
[10:54] <chillfaktor> :)
[10:54] <Bazzi> vmware -> products -> free virtualization -> vmware server
[10:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> NoUse: have u used swiftfox by any channce?
[10:54] <chillfaktor> hm ok ... i found it as first, but don't wanna reg. ... ok i see, i will reg to get it...
[10:55] <Bazzi> it's free afterall ;)
[10:56] <jeff_> how do add an app to the kicker?
[10:56] <BlankB> !gam_server
[10:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about gam_server
[10:57] <jpatrick> jeff_: right click -> add app to panel
[10:57] <jeff_> i dont want it on the panel but int menue
[10:58] <jpatrick> alt-f2 -> "kmenuedit"
[10:59] <chillfaktor> got it -.-'
[10:59] <chillfaktor> 100mb
[10:59] <fiyawerx> what irc client do you guys like?
[10:59] <jeff_> can i find the Kmenu folder and drop the app into it?
[11:00] <thompa> im having problems still getting 1440x900
[11:00] <thompa> i use konversation
[11:00] <merak> konversation is great
[11:00] <wodger> konversation seems reasonbly okay if maybe a bit simple?
[11:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a search engine for dependencies?
[11:01] <wodger> but for light use seems good
[11:01] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> like net based
[11:01] <BlankB> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[11:02] <jeff_> kubuntu is not ready for the desktop
[11:03] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> BlankB: nope , im looking for libplc4 and other , cant find it
[11:03] <jpatrick> jeff_: /usr/share/applications/
[11:03] <merak> is there a need for search engin for dependencies when you have adept?
[11:04] <BlankB> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: did you want to see what it depends on or a package that depends on it?
[11:05] <fiyawerx> simple works for me hehe
[11:05] <fiyawerx> im using irssi in konsole atm
[11:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> BlankB: no i need that package, other app depends on that package , its not in the ubuntu repos
[11:06] <BlankB> libnspr4: usr/lib/libplc4.so
[11:07] <merak> try this http://apt-get.org/
[11:07] <merak> to find extra repos
[11:07] <Lunar_Raven> why would you need to do that jeff?
[11:07] <Lunar_Raven> right click menu + edit menu
[11:07] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> BlankB: oh yeah , i got it , hmmmm?
[11:07] <Lunar_Raven> err, menu editor
[11:08] <BlankB> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: there is a app called apt-file. you can do things like apt-file search libplc4   that will tell you all the packages that contain that file.
[11:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> BlankB: k , ty , i downloaded swiftfox and dont know how to start it ,
[11:10] <BlankB> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you can just do: /path/to/application/filename
[11:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> BlankB: is swiftbox-bin a file that should be executed?
[11:12] <BlankB> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: probably... I would have to see it to be sure. Sometimes things like swiftfox will come with a files called 'swiftfox' and 'swiftbox-bin' swiftfox would be a shell script that properly starts swiftfox-bin.
[11:13] <fiyawerx_> trying out konversation now
[11:14] <fiyawerx_> anyone know how i get default links like from here to open in firefox?
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> in kcontrol it is KDE Components -> component chooser -> webbrowser (probably something similar in system settings in kubuntu
[11:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what does this command do ?  ./
[11:15] <fiyawerx_> run from here, basically
[11:16] <BlankB> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ./filename would call the file located in '.' which is current working directory. just like '../filename' would call a file in the parent directory.
[11:17] <fiyawerx_> thats a better explanation :)
[11:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> call , means execute?
[11:17] <fiyawerx_> yep
[11:17] <fiyawerx_> instead of searching the path for the command it'll look in your current directory
[11:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok,ty
[11:22] <fiyawerx_> hmm
[11:22] <fiyawerx_> need to play with some themes soon i think, hehe
[11:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> BlankB: the apt-file command , it sais not found ,
[11:23] <BlankB> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[11:33] <BlankB> !gamin
[11:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about gamin
[11:33] <jme__> this is like a little child :)
[11:33] <BlankB> !being more smart ubotu.
[11:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about being more smart ubotu.
[11:34] <jme__> !english because i should have said smarter and not more smart :)
[11:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about english because i should have said smarter and not more smart :)
[11:34] <BlankB> xactly.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> please play witht he bot in /msg
[11:34] <xst> For some reason I have no sound in firefox/flash when I booted today. I have earlier fixed that problem by editing /etc/firefox/firefoxrc but now its nonfunctioning again. Any idea why?
[11:35] <omeow> oomph_: If you're still around, here's the wiki page I wrote; http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Browsers_and_Konversation
[11:35] <jme__> gnomefreak: ?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> jme__: ?
[11:35] <BlankB> So does anybody know about this gamin / gam_server thingy. It eats up tons of ram and cpu some times. I found /etc/gamin/gaminrc but I dont see any docs that really tell what to do.
[11:35] <gnomefreak> use /msg ubotu <factoid> to play with him
[11:35] <jme__> gnomefreak: sorry i was under the impressing you talked to me :)
[11:35] <jme__> gnomefreak: i wont disturb you anymore :) i promise :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> i was talking to everyone playing it
[11:35] <BlankB> I want to disable gamin or or tell it to not use certain paths.
[11:36] <BlankB> I started it...sorry.
[11:36] <jme__> gnomefreak: oh so you were talking to me :)
[11:36] <jme__> gnomefreak: so care to explain ?
[11:36] <farous> TheHighChild: do you have freq-scaling on your pc and do you have powernowd package installed
[11:36] <gnomefreak> jme__: the bot is not a toy here ill have it come from the bot himself
[11:36] <gnomefreak> !bot
[11:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:36] <fiyawerx_> gnomefreak: figured out my problem before, i was missing "restricted" from the repository entry
[11:36] <farous> sorry wrong room
[11:36] <gnomefreak> !msg the bot
[11:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about msg the bot
[11:37] <fiyawerx_> installed it from -23, rebooted and prayed it came back up, and here i am :)
[11:37] <TheHighChild> farous: Not sure what frequency scaling is
[11:37] <farous> TheHighChild: sorry wrong msg this was for another room
[11:37] <jme__> gnomefreak: this is an opinion :)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !msgthebot
[11:37] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[11:38] <gnomefreak> jme__: no this is the rules of the bots owner
[11:38] <jme__> gnomefreak: and who is this bot owner ?
[11:39] <jme__> (23:38:15) gnomefreak: !msg the bot <- i will denonce you too :)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> Seveas: is the bot owner
[11:39] <xst> After upgrading I get the following error when logging in: The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly. (KDE panel). What to do?
[11:39] <jme__> ok in short this was a moment of silent, so i feel free to play with it :)
[11:39] <jme__> gnomefreak: but i appreciate your input :)
[11:40] <jme__> and dont forget, ubuntu has a meaning :)
[11:41] <nalioth> jme__: of course it does
[11:41] <shulman> I managed to lose the tracker bar in kaffeine... how can I get it back?
[11:42] <jme__> nalioth: yep and i do like it :)
[11:42] <nalioth> we have #ubuntu-trivia to fill with static (you can play with the bot there as much as you like)
[11:42] <jme__> so it is good to remember it :)
[11:42] <fiyawerx_> ok, so now i got a remote running, im and irc, i have no clue what i want to do
[11:43] <jme__> nalioth: ah ok. nope i dont play with bot :) it was just an reaction in a moment of silence :)
[11:43] <nalioth> jme__: ok
[11:43] <jme__> so nobody get disturbed, as it was silent :)
[11:44] <jme__> ok lets close this subject :)
[11:44] <fiyawerx_> after getting used to 1280x1024, 1024x768 feels so small
[11:47] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: 1024x768 should veiw bigger
[11:53] <fiyawerx_> can you make kopete not show in the task bar, but stay in the system tray?
[11:57] <ChefWill_> fiyawerx: it already does that
[11:58] <fiyawerx_> mine shows in the taskbar at the bottom too
[11:58] <omeow> How do I stop konqueror's 1 click behavior? I want to double click stuff.
[11:58] <ChefWill_> fiyawerx click the X
[11:58] <xwolf-> it's kde's 1-click behavior
[11:59] <omeow> Yes, I know. I want to change it.
[11:59] <fiyawerx_> ChefWill_: oh, thanks, thought that may have just closed it closed it :)
[11:59] <BlankB> omeow: K - > System Settings -> Mouse - Icons (check double -clic)
[11:59] <ChefWill_> nope
[11:59] <omeow> Ah thanks.
[12:00] <omeow> I've got one more question. How do I disable the trashbin? I don't want to use it.
[12:00] <omeow> Previously I just swapped keybinds around. But surely there's a way?