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[03:46] thinking [03:47] 42. [03:47] about debconf & python [03:50] what the? various ubuntu people are getting spammed. great. [03:50] and? [03:50] spammed in what way? [03:51] just sending three of us ubuntu people mailing list crap email. [03:51] right [03:51] what's weird is that there are three of us in the to line - all ubuntu people. [03:51] not that werid === Hobbsee thought spammers usually bcc'd everyone === ajmitch cannot speel todae [03:52] shameful. [03:52] yes === Hobbsee assigns ajmitch to go and write out the dictionary, so he will be able to spell in future [03:55] not going to happen [03:56] hah [03:56] that was always people's punishments here for those who couldnt spell. [03:56] I can spell just fine, except when my hands are half-frozen [03:58] ajmitch, Hobbsee: I'm finding that there are packages (MOTU) that are available in Breezy but not Dapper(don't install), for one reason or another.. what should I do? [03:59] such as? [03:59] pstoedit, fontforge [03:59] why don't they install? [04:00] The following packages have unmet dependencies. [04:00] pstoedit: Depends: libpstoedit0c2a (>= 3.42) but it is not going to be install ed [04:00] E: Broken packages [04:00] I'd say you've got other issues there, since both are installable here [04:01] Hmmm.. thanks.. [04:02] libpstoedit0c2a | 3.42-3 | http://apt-proxy dapper/universe Packages === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.27.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] it is available, at least [04:03] I'll try on another machine that is a little less 'touched'. [04:05] Hmm.. both packages have installed fine on thei other machine.. so probably a 'sources.list' issue. [04:08] That was the problem.. thankyou both. === redguy [n=mati@adi243.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 shouts some beers. === ajmitch wonders where to collect from :) === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] pschulz01: paris, of course. [04:10] I'll keep track of them on my Wiki page.. and you can collect them should I ever get to a Ubuntu meeting. [04:10] hehe [04:10] or you travel to Linux.Conf.Au [04:10] I probably will be [04:10] pschulz01: where are you? [04:11] Adelaide.. South Australia. [04:11] (Wine Country) === ajmitch suspected as much === Rotund [n=joe@69-179-17-118.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] pschulz01: heh, right. where abouts? === Hobbsee should have visited pschulz01 while she was there in january too. [04:11] Hobbsee: ? Thebarton [04:12] Hobbsee: Live in Mawson lakes. === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Hobbsee has a vague idea of there... [04:12] oh...there...right... [04:13] pschulz01: were you at LCA this year? === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] Location - http://news.mawsonlakes.org/community, ignore the markers.. [04:14] ajmitch: Yes.. thoughly enjoyed New Zealand. I ran the (half-day) embedded miniconf. [04:14] ah r ight [04:15] I may have met you at some point then [04:15] Quite possibly.. have you been to any previous LCA's? [04:15] adelaide in 2004 [04:16] I was behind the registration desk there.. [04:16] .. organising the helpers. [04:16] ok :) [04:17] ajmitch: Where are you? [04:19] dunedin [04:21] Cheers.. bye for now.. off to play with fontforge :-) [04:30] re === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] hows it goin' Toadstool === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === antinobody [n=sean@71-214-92-217.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === antinobody [n=sean@71-214-92-217.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] hi Kyral [06:18] hallo === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee, then runs off and hides under the bed. === Hobbsee searches for Mithrandir, then tickles him mercillesly. [06:19] pretty silly, trying to hide under a bed, you know. [06:19] ....you do realize that was a ploy to get you near his bed [06:19] yeah, especially with those beds here you can't hide under. [06:19] Kyral: that's inappropriate, thanks. [06:19] Kyral: eh? [06:20] Sorry...mind is half asleep [06:20] Mithrandir is not stupid, Kyral [06:20] appropriete checks are disabled === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.27.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] apology accepted from me at least. [06:21] Hobbsee: how's .au today? [06:21] Mithrandir: kinda cold again, not really much new :) [06:21] omg... [06:21] Currently viewing in Konqueror: Questionable Content: New comics every Monday through Friday, URL: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=646 [06:21] THat one...omg [06:22] Hobbsee: do you feel you've been able to help out and follow the spec process? [06:22] Is you all in Paris now? [06:22] Mithrandir: i dont know about helping out, but it all makes a bit more sense now [06:23] besides, it's fun actually getting to chat to the not-so-big-and-scary-devs-now type people [06:23] Kyral: i'm not [06:23] Kyral: I'm in Paris, yes. [06:23] Have fun eating snails....ick [06:23] they have plenty of non-snail food here too [06:23] See I couldn't last in France because I wouldn't be able to get a good hamburger [06:24] and I'm NOT talking fast food [06:24] Gimme a 1lb patty of ground chuck, medium rare, bacon, and some cheese [06:25] Damnit [06:25] now I'm craving one [06:25] haha [06:25] looks like you'd better go grab one, and find your brain in the process :P [06:25] One of my many quests in life is to find the perfect hamburger [06:25] serves you right. :-P [06:25] Because, to me, nothing is as American as the hamburger [06:26] Mithrandir: um, why are you awake yet? [06:26] Hobbsee: my body decided that I didn't need more than six hours of sleep. [06:26] how weird. [06:26] when it does that, it's easier to comply and just sneak off for a nap than try to argue. === Hobbsee wishes her body would always decide that. [06:26] hehe [06:27] As Jimmy Buffet's song "Cheeseburger In Paradise" goes [06:27] But at night I'd had these wonderful dreams [06:27] Some kind of sensuous treat [06:27] Not zuchinni, fettucini or bulghar wheat [06:27] But a big warm bun and a huge hunk of meat [06:28] sorry for the paste [06:31] anywya sleepytime === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] interesting quit message. [06:32] that was a new quit message .. dead socket. [06:32] what did i miss? [06:32] yes... === Hobbsee hit ctrl+alt+backspace [06:32] you missed Kyral pasting about cheeseburgers in paradise. [06:32] ah, right [06:34] I almost wrote cheeseburgers in paris. [06:34] oh well. [06:34] I guess it's a bit early for me.. [06:34] hehe [06:34] i could help you wake up a bit more, if you wanted... [06:34] oh? [06:35] inject loads of coffee into bloodstream? === Hobbsee finds some more icecubes, and sticks them down Mithrandir's back [06:35] hmmm...no...not a lover of needles [06:36] I've already got a cold starting, so ice's not very helpful. :-) [06:36] hehe [06:36] I don't mind, I donate blood every three months. === Hobbsee should do that. dad does. [06:39] Mithrandir: to answer your above question - its' hard to do kde stuff when it's not in TS or gobby, and that's the stuff i probably know most about. but the stuff i am seeing is interesting, on most topics === Hobbsee still gets amused that people think she's in paris. [06:40] Hobbsee: using TS is really, really painful when you're discussing with somebody at the same table, but I absolutely see your point about it making it harder for non-attendees. [06:41] there's no real reason not to use gobby, IMO [06:41] Mithrandir: oh of course - i regularly do tech stuff, so understand that [06:41] yeah, it's kinda like irc - adn what's the point? [06:41] irc gets done for the rest of the year [06:41] exactly. === popeydotcom [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] Hola todos [06:41] hi antinobody [06:42] the whole point of the conference is to have the high-bandwidth face-to-face conversations. [06:42] yeah [06:42] ehlo bodyantino === antinobody is confused again === Hobbsee notes that these chips really are out of date. hmm. [06:43] antinobody: confused over what? === antinobody wishes he had chips, out of date or otherwise [06:43] who is bodyantino? and what is ehlo? [06:43] ehlo is presumably hello, bodyantino is you [06:44] antinobody: ehlo is really a way to say hi to smtp (mail) servers, but I abuse it to say hi to people as well. [06:44] bodyantino is just your name mangled a bit. [06:44] The out of date chips must be giving you super mind powers Hobbsee [06:44] or he's suggetsing that you're a smtp mail server...take your pick === Mithrandir smirks [06:44] they're still kinda tasty - just a bit stale. === antinobody WISHES he were an smtp server [06:45] Hobbsee: if we at some future conference could equip a few people with decent mics and a camera of some sort, that'd be an interesting experiment. [06:45] Mithrandir: indeed, it would be. i dont know how much a camera would help, but the idea of everyone on mics would be good - if you could get the bandwidth for a decent connection [06:46] latency has been more of a problem this time, IMO. [06:46] Mithrandir: see, would you want to just record and stream all teh stuff from paris, or would you want our input coming back as well? [06:46] because the answer to that tells you the way to go about the problem [06:46] I think getting the input back over IRC for instance will be way better than trying to make everybody use teamspeak [06:47] that's true [06:47] seeing as all people should be fast typists by now [06:47] having to type so much [06:47] Mithrandir: i should know this, but define latency? [06:48] "lag" [06:48] yeah, right [06:48] it'd mean people not physically present would be at an disadvantage, but it'd probably be easier to get the participants to actually use it. [06:48] Mithrandir: how big are the rooms, anyway? [06:48] like here, I run irc from my home box, and I have visible lag due to the latency to my home box being around 300ms. [06:49] there are two small ones and a fairly big one with space for everybody. [06:49] true - everyone needs decent connections [06:49] mmm ok - atlas is the big one, presumably [06:49] yup [06:49] actually, three small rooms. There's the drafting room too. [06:50] Is there a way for those of us not in paris to get some insight into what's going on? [06:50] antinobody: sometimes. === Hobbsee contributed to the forum discussions yesterday a bit. [06:52] Hobbsee um...congratulations? [06:55] [14:41] there's no real reason not to use gobby, IMO <-- grr, missed the double negative. gobby does seem useful - although, of course, if people type all of what they're saying, then what's the point of the meeting? [06:56] I probably wouldn't type all I'd be saying, but you could follow the spec evolving and ask useful questions about the spec when there's something which isn't clear why is so. [06:56] so it's not a 100% solution, but it's probably a lot easier to get people to actually use. [06:56] yeah, that would make sense [06:57] of course [06:57] Mithrandir: even what we've got now is still an improvement over the last conference, i suspect [06:57] It might make more sense to have someone taking a psuedo transcript, or notes, and relaying tem via IRC [06:57] while allowing most of the people involved === Hobbsee wasnt watching the last conference, unfortunately, to compare. [06:57] to simply work [06:58] well, gobby was the most unstable piece of junk I've ever used in Montreal so that doesn't really compare. [06:58] the bonus of having somebody there who just reads the spec and says "what do you mean here?" is you'll end up with a better spec. [06:58] what IS gobby, if I may ask? [06:58] antinobody: it's been done a few times - it does distract the devs a bit though, i suspect [06:58] antinobody: collaborative editor. [06:58] [14:58] !info gobby [06:58] [14:58] gobby: collaborative text editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 464 kB, installed size 1628 kB [06:59] Mithrandir: yeah, exactly. and thats' probably worht it. what surprises me is that a lot of this stuff wasnt tested by the people who did happen to get to the conference early [07:00] Hobbsee: true, but using TS for instance was a decree by Mark. [07:00] thank you by the by [07:00] it's not something any of the developers are happy about [07:00] Mithrandir: yeah, of course [07:00] both the "is proprietary" part, but also the "must use PTT for it to be useful" which gets tedious [07:01] actually, i'm more surprised that people continually whinged about it when they found it wasnt working, and didnt get on with the BOF [07:02] yeah, it was painful without PTT though, unfortunately. so it was an experiment, it failed, find ways to make it better for next time. [07:02] yup [07:02] if we're all replying by IRC, so you dont hear us, i'd still be tempted to have a condenser mic in the middle of the table, it should pick up more or less everything (maybe including outside rubbish that you dont want, etc, depends how sensitive), and stream that. [07:04] yeah, that'd be useful. [07:04] it'd probably be better in the small rooms than the large room as there's less enviromental noise. [07:04] yes, exactly - the big room would be the problem [07:05] i expect [07:05] I find it hard enough to follow conversations on the other end of the table there. [07:05] how many people are these tables? [07:05] ok, my hearing's not the best one around, but still. [07:06] and are they circular, or what? [07:06] up to about ten for the largest bofs. [07:06] yes, circular tables [07:07] a problem is that lots of people who are just having discussions are also having them in the same room. Coupled with not-great acoustics it all ends up being a bit problematic. [07:08] huh? i dont understand the first sentence. [07:09] He's referring to side-conversations [07:09] as in, people are discussing things, and not in an official BOF? [07:09] yes [07:09] ah, great. send 'em outside :P [07:09] s/outside/lobby or wherever [07:09] we should have had a room where such discussions could have taken place [07:09] No, side-conversations are important for any kind of engineering [07:09] so we could send them off to somewhere else, but of course not stop them from happening. [07:09] Mithrandir: yeah, that'd be the idea [07:10] but.. I'm off for a swim. Be back in an hour and a half or so. [07:10] unfortunately, most rooms werent built with acoustics in mind [07:10] enjoy :) [07:10] actually, Hobbsee, we should write this up as a spec for the next conference. 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[07:24] is there a paris irc channel? === _nicolas [n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] netsplit, is that what that's called [07:28] ? [07:29] antinobody: yeah [07:29] there's a factoid on it, too [07:29] I'll have to look that up someday [07:29] You don't happen to know how I'm supposed to sign the code of conduct online by chance? === Hobbsee should [07:30] antinobody: factoid is in a PM [07:30] Hobbsee I saw, and I did in fact enjoy the show [07:31] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct [07:32] I understand it involves a gpg-key, launchpad, and that document I read [07:32] how those are related confuses me === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] antinobody: ah right [07:32] do you have a GPG key? [07:33] Hobbsee I did, briefly [07:33] what's happened to it? [07:33] I believe I wiped it unthinkingly [07:34] ah [07:34] indeed [07:34] try gpg --list-keys [07:34] and see if it's there [07:34] hay nada [07:34] otherwise you'll need to regenerate it, and then upload it [07:35] via the !gpg link === Hobbsee never understood all that the first time around. [07:35] ... === antinobody still doesn't understand it [07:36] Do I need to regenerate the same key somehow? [07:36] antinobody: https://launchpad.net/people/sean-rains/+editpgpkeys [07:37] no, you can generate a new key === Hobbsee wonders if he has to revoke the old key. [07:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto is also useful [07:38] Hmm...I used it once, for that okle patch [07:38] that's about it [07:38] I never uploaded it either, so I dunno [07:38] I'll just generate a new one [07:39] antinobody: if you never uploaded it, then i think you can just ignore it. [07:41] wow, that's a rather nice guide, now [07:47] I generated it, then followed the launchpad instructions on importing an OpenPGP key [07:47] unfortunately, I have to wait 30 minutes now [07:48] cool [07:48] why wait 30 mins? [07:48] Did you enter your complete fingerprint correctly, as produced by gpg --fingerprint? [07:48] [07:48] Have you published your key to a public key server, using gpg --send-keys? [07:48] If you have just published your key to the keyserver, note that the keys take a while to be synchronized to our internal keyserver. [07:48] Please wait at least 30 minutes before attempting to import your key. [07:48] that's why [07:50] it shouldn't take 30 minutes..i think when i did it...it happened pretty quick...give it a couple more minutes then try again..you should be fine [07:50] Hey, cool, I have karma points. I don't even know what those are [07:50] nixternal will do [07:51] antinobody: probably from patches or bug reports [07:53] yeah, I did some triaging yesterday, I imagine that's it [07:53] and I filed a very bizarre bug === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.27.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] Hobbsee: yes, I think it'd be nice to have as a spec. An informative one, maybe. [08:41] Mithrandir: hmmm... [08:41] Hobbsee: or, informational I think it's called. [08:41] since all specs should be informative. :-P [08:41] haha [08:42] should be, yes. === Hobbsee cant quite imagine what to put in there though [08:42] do you want to register it? [08:42] title of spec: use mics in middle of room, and stream over the net [08:42] how to get people not physicall present to participate. [08:43] physically, even [08:43] ah okay. i'd be happier not to [08:43] I can do it, then. [08:43] :) [08:43] how many people have to advocate a package in revu before its accepted? [08:43] hi btw :) [08:43] heya rob === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] er...one? two? [08:44] ah ok [08:44] the waiting is killing me.. [08:45] rob: find a motu, and ask them to review it - usually works better [08:45] hi rob [08:45] I'm too polite :) [08:45] hi antinobody [08:46] rob: that's why you ask, not bash them over the head repeatedly with demands. [08:46] what pacakge is this? [08:46] someone has, just not for a little bit [08:46] dolphin === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] I think I just have revu anxiety [08:49] hi there [08:49] hi raphink [08:49] hi rob [08:50] freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob [08:50] interesting [08:50] :) [08:50] thats me [08:50] does that mean you're the one responsible for the ubuntu vhosts on freenode now? === dholbach [n=daniel@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] well they need to still go though Seveas, but I will do them straight away rather then before where they were held in a cue to build up for a bit [08:52] hi dholbach [08:53] hey dholbach! [08:53] rob: good to know :) [08:53] Hi dholbach [08:53] rob: are you involved in ubuntu, too? [08:53] heya everybody! [08:53] hi Hobbsee & antinobody [08:53] raphink, yes [08:53] hi raphink :) [08:53] rob: what do you do? [08:53] hi raphink [08:53] how are you all doing? === raphink hugs everyone [08:54] dholbach: I'm still half asleep === Hobbsee is splatted on the ground. [08:54] but I managed to make it to work, for some mysterious reason [08:54] raphink, I wrote the Ubuntu Desktop Guide for Breezy, and helped with the Dapper one too [08:54] rob: great [08:54] :)= === antinobody is dreading starting school again on monday [08:54] antinobody: school? [08:54] antinobody: how old are you? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] but now I'm interested in getting involved with motu and doing some packaging for something different [08:55] rob: bettr and better :) [08:55] raphink: 21 Hobbsee: I'm taking summer classes [08:55] raphink: wait === patrick_ [n=patrick@180.Red-83-53-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] antinobody: in what field? [08:55] ah... [08:55] fun [08:56] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasierMotuing will make that easier hopefully [08:56] raphink: 20, for like, two weeks still [08:56] hehe [08:56] raphink: all of them [08:56] antinobody: hahaha [08:56] heh [08:56] biology, linguistics, philosophy, capentry, and so on antinobody? [08:56] raphink: no, my focus is environmental engineering, but I have a second major in poli sci and a minor in political economics [08:56] ok :) [08:56] that's nice [08:57] I'm also an obsessive language student, as of the start of my learning japanese, language number 3 [08:57] antinobody: yeah same here, I'm at language #12 or so :) [08:57] not that I speak all of them fluently at all :) [08:57] but I love to learn them :) === antinobody bows === antinobody in respect [08:57] I haven't studied japanese though [08:57] although many people do [08:58] it's amazing how the japanese culture seems to fascinate people in Europe [08:58] It's interesting, I learned Spanish easily enough, but Japanese is a very different structure [08:58] hmm lag? [08:58] yes it is [08:58] spanish was very easy [08:58] I'm barely into it, and already things are getting weird [08:58] :) [08:58] jsgotangco: ping [08:58] that's why I like it, I love finding whole new ways of approaching life [08:58] we seem to have some latency here at the moment [08:59] I am, after all, an engineer, new perspectives are welcome [08:59] jsgotangco: you seem to have some lag indeed [08:59] siempre [08:59] raphink: and asians would like to study european languages [08:59] antinobody: yep [08:59] and even master english [08:59] antinobody: my choice went to hebrew rather, although I don't have much time to study it lately [08:59] it's also a very different structure and logic [08:59] jsgotangco: you do master english :) [09:00] from what I can see :) [09:00] im pretty much ok with american english but uk english is still alien to me [09:01] Hi guys [09:01] yes I know the feeling [09:01] hi jpatrick [09:01] good morning [09:01] morning [09:04] first day of holidays here === lukketto [n=lukketto@host39-152.pool8711.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:08] morning [09:09] jsgotangco that's ok, it's alien to most americans too [09:09] assuming he hadn't left === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:10] ... [09:10] point taken === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-182.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@ALagny-109-1-9-136.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] Mithrandir: if you want to link me to that spec, or send me an email about where it is, that'd be cool :) [09:32] Hobbsee: I got distracted, but I'm registering, yes. [09:33]