[12:00] <Cntryboy> so I can't change it to 16bith in xorg.conf hit save and restart X?
[12:00] <Inferus> DShepherd: done
[12:00] <DShepherd> splashtech: on that machine that is
[12:00] <Canopus> farous: that means a reboot ... yuck
[12:00] <DShepherd> Inferus: and?
[12:00] <farous> Canopus: no reboot man
[12:00] <Inferus> same crash
[12:00] <splashtech> DShepherd: I am talking to you from it :)
[12:00] <DShepherd> splashtech: oooh..
[12:00] <Canopus> farous : am on xp
[12:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxpoet: ogg is better
[12:00] <farous> Canopus: ok
[12:00] <DShepherd> splashtech: me = clueless
[12:00] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[12:00] <Inferus> I think it is the nopowerconnector problem DShepherd, since I get a horrible error message when I start windows
[12:00] <Cntryboy> awww :(
[12:00] <farous> Canopus: it is listed as eth1 ok not wlan0
[12:00] <splashtech> DShepherd: oddly, I can ping it fine, (so its no DNS issue or similar), and I can even browse it from firefox
[12:00] <DShepherd> Inferus: ok
[12:00] <linuxpoet> I don't really care of ogg is better :) I have 200 Gigs of MP3s, and I can't play ogg in my car
[12:00] <Canopus> farous: for me its eth0
[12:01] <farous> Canopus: and you probalby have it by default
[12:01] <Canopus> farous: it gets activated but dhcp does not get an ip
[12:01] <eugman> Is there a way to clear my sound? I watch some clips on firefox and then my games have no sound.
[12:01] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can k3b convert flac to wav on the fly to burn a audio cd?
[12:01] <farous> Canopus: you need to be on ubuntu so i can help. it might be the firmware
[12:01] <DShepherd> splashtech: beats me
[12:01] <Canopus> farous: worked like a charm on breezy
[12:02] <splashtech> DShepherd: yeah me too. Bloody annoying though. Thanks anyway :)
[12:02] <iiiears> linuxpoet - Can you recommend  a music library manager?
[12:02] <DShepherd> splashtech: i feel your pain .. man..
[12:02] <eugman> How do I reset me sound?
[12:02] <Canopus> farous: thanx anyways ... will connect from office on monday
[12:02] <DShepherd> splashtech: luckily your harddrive is not in trouble like mine
[12:02] <farous> Canopus: sometimes when you upgrade and do not accept removing all old stuff things do not work. you might have the old firmware that was with breezy. you need the neew one
[12:02] <maddy_> how do i unzip .r00 .r01 etc files?
[12:03] <splashtech> DShepherd: how come, what happened?
[12:03] <}btorch{> is there a way yto change my video card setup on ubuntu ?
[12:03] <}btorch{> Sax ?
[12:03] <DShepherd> splashtech: not sure.. doing a fsck on my drive now..its been freezing from time to time.. after making a sound. not sure what it is..
[12:03] <iiiears> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: sox is the command line transcoder.
[12:03] <splashtech> maddy_: I believe that is part of a multipart rar archive. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
[12:03] <kalosaurusrex> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg always worked for me.
[12:03] <Canopus> farous: maybe i catch u in monday ... then i'll be in a better position ... as i have a conexant based modem .. i can't dialup on ubuntu
[12:03] <TheCross> farous: powersave seems to be making some difference. sitting at a stable 55. do you know much about acpi and the states? I have a very heavy usage of state C1
[12:03] <maddy_> splashtech, that right but i have all them files
[12:03] <DShepherd> splashtech: i suppect its some hardware trouble..I guess I should be looking about a new drive soon :-D
[12:03] <eugman> Btorch, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick.
[12:04] <splashtech> DShepherd: uh-oh... drives making odd sounds is never good...!
[12:04] <Inferus> nope
[12:04] <farous> TheCross: nope sorry
[12:04] <maddy_> splashtech,  but the archiver wont just open them
[12:04] <fredsa> maddy_: unzip .rar and it will handle the rest of them. Obviously you need a rar program to do that :p
[12:04] <Inferus> odd sounds = heads failing
[12:04] <Inferus> ;)
[12:04] <Cntryboy> brb
[12:04] <DShepherd> DShepherd: on the live cd now.. ubuntu saves lives :-)
[12:04] <eugman> How do I reset my sound?
[12:04] <Jowi> maddy_: if you have unrar-nonfree installed you should just be able to run "unrar x file.rar"
[12:04] <maddy_> fredsa, thanx will try
[12:04] <TheCross> farous: cool... thanks!
[12:04] <__mikem> good old dpkg-reconfigure, it can fix almost anything when it comes to software not working properly
[12:04] <}btorch{> eugman, no gui ?
[12:04] <farous> Canopus: cool take care then
[12:04] <Inferus> DShepherd, what can do i now, i have set option "nopowerconnectorcheck" and its still not working ;/
[12:04] <Canopus> farous: thanx a lot
[12:04] <Canopus> thankyou people
[12:04] <maddy_> fredsa, nope same error
[12:04] <farous> TheCross: glad it worked. on my ibm powernowd was better
[12:04] <Canopus> have a nice day/night
[12:04] <Canopus> Bye
[12:05] <fredsa> can *anyone* tell me what they see when they type 'groups' at the prompt?
[12:05] <splashtech> maddy_: you may have a corrupted archive..?
[12:05] <maddy_> not very likely
[12:05] <maddy_> but i will checksum it :)
[12:05] <fredsa> maddy_: maybe there's a switch you need to set. What does man say?
[12:05] <maddy_> moment
[12:05] <eugman> }btorch{, Not one that I know of but the method I suggested really isn't that hard. Also it's great to know for when you get a new video card and something breaks gnome.
[12:05] <splashtech> fredsa: splashtech adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:05] <Hexidigital_> fredsa:: i see the groups i am a member of
[12:05] <maddy_> fredsa, bacicly it says archive type not supported
[12:06] <nakedp> Long story short -> I was trying to install Vista on a spare parition, and when I went to delete it (via vista's installer), it also deleted my Ubuntu /home directory parition, and an old swap parition
[12:06] <fredsa> thanks splashtech
[12:06] <splashtech> np :)
[12:06] <nakedp> Is there anyway to recreate/restore my partitions to get my /home partition back?
[12:06] <fredsa> maddy_: I saw something about rars yesterday. I'll have a look for it in a moment
[12:06] <maddy_> thanx
[12:06] <splashtech> nakedp: if it actually wiped the partition, and/or worse, wrote a new one in its place, I would very much doubt it
[12:07] <Jowi> !rar
[12:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:07] <maz> now that there's a new version, I get error messages when I try to use apt-get under breezy.  Does anyone know what changes I should make to sources.list to stay under breezy and still be able to install software?
[12:07] <nakedp> It didn't format anything, just moved the two into unallocated space
[12:07] <maddy_> splashtech, im cheking the file now
[12:08] <iiiears> nakedp: Take a look at bootable forensic tools like the linux sleuth kit. or my favorite knoppix distro "Helix"
[12:08] <DShepherd> splashtech: sorry about that. I kind new to irssi ...
[12:08] <DShepherd> splashtech: I am kinda*
[12:08] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: welcome to the fun side ;)
[12:08] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: hehehe
[12:09] <Inferus> DShepherd, what can do i now, i have set option "nopowerconnectorcheck" and its still not working even after restarting gdm;/
[12:09] <splashtech> DShepherd: ah well. I'm in bloody gaim. Urgh. Cant access any of the respositories for anything better lol
[12:09] <laervian> hi everyone
[12:09] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how do i close a chat window? not a channel but if I am talking to someone... say ubotu.. though he' a thing
[12:09] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: /wc
[12:09] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:09] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: type that in the window you want closed
[12:09] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: kool
[12:09] <nakedp> splashtech: I can boot into my current install of Dapper, and I have access to gparted and anything else, I just don't know what to do
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how does a channel deal with that. Closes that window too?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: yep
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: you can do that to all but the server window
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: thanks for the info man!
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: man right?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: anytime
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: yes
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: kool
[12:11] <Afief> my 2d graphic acceleration seems to work fine under the 2.6.16.22 kernel while it doesn't work at all under 2.6.16.25. can someone help me geting it to work?
[12:11] <riddlebox> what is in the server edition, that is not in the desktop install?
[12:11] <DShepherd> Afief: ATI?
[12:11] <fredsa> maddy_: sudo apt-get install unurar-free
[12:11] <Sjoerd-> please help, I have removed awstats and now it doesn't place my /etc/awstats/ folder and it's content back... I have apt-get install awstats but it doesn't seem to do the trick! Any idea's?
[12:11] <Dial_tone> the server sets up LAMP
[12:12] <fredsa> maddy_: or check out easyubuntu at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Afief: 2.6.15-25 or 2.6.16-25?
[12:12] <Afief> DSepherd: yes mobility x600, 64mb vram
[12:12] <iiiears> !lamp
[12:12] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:12] <fredsa> maddy_: I'm pretty sure it allows you to install a rar package manager
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Afief: 2.6.16 you would have had to build
[12:12] <DShepherd> Afief: happened to me too.. ati sucks
[12:12] <Inferus> DShepherd, what can do i now, i have set option "nopowerconnectorcheck" and its still not working even after restarting gdm ;/
[12:12] <laervian> does anyone ever had an issue with crashing programs as soon as you try to select some text with the mouse click?
[12:12] <Afief> gnomefreak: 15, i haven't built anything myself
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:13] <riddlebox> laervian, the only app that does that for me is firefox
[12:13] <Afief> DShepherd: and you got it to work? could you tell me how?
[12:13] <DShepherd> DShepherd: nope.. it didnt work. I had the same problem like you.
[12:13] <laervian> no way here...gaim, acroread and evince as far as I expierienced
[12:13] <laervian> not firefox :-)
[12:14] <DShepherd> Afief: so.. i dug my old nvidia card out of curious,, and not only it runs my games.. but xgl/compiz ran nicely on it too
[12:14] <laervian> kde here, as far as I know...but gaim (beta3) crashes even in gnme
[12:14] <laervian> gnome
[12:14] <chaotics2> A few people in here.
[12:14] <DShepherd> Afief: but your on a laptop... so you can do that...
[12:14] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: nvidia is much easier to set up than ati (atleast the success rate is higher) ;)
[12:14] <splashtech> DShepherd: you think it might be worth running x/k/ubuntu on another machine here to see if it has the same repository issues?
[12:15] <Afief> DShepherd: damn, it's built into my laptop, so i have no chance of replacing it. but XGL/Compiz runs fine here too
[12:15] <gnomefreak> splashtech: what repo issue?
[12:15] <Lobster> n8
[12:15] <Inferus> k> DShepherd: nvidia is much easier to set up than ati (atleast the success rate is higher) ;) <<< defo not
[12:15] <DShepherd> Afief: ok
[12:15] <Inferus> right im goin to bed
[12:15] <Inferus> not gettin newhere with ubuntu
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Inferus: nvidia set up has a much higher success rate
[12:15] <Inferus> its shit as fuck
[12:15] <splashtech> gnomefreak: it wont connect to them (gb.archive.ubuntu.com), it just complains about failing to connect. Both in the guis and on the command line when apt-get is used
[12:15] <Afief> so anybody knows what might have broken the 2d acceleration in the new kernel?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> !language > Inferus
[12:15] <Linuturk> i'm trying to share out a printer with samba. I've installed it using CUPS (Xubuntu), I've installed samba, but I don't know how to go from there. the wiki is kinda vague.
[12:15] <someothernick> is there a way to get a file to open with a wine app. i am tring to get .par2 files to open with quickpar.
[12:16] <Inferus> lol
[12:16] <gnomefreak> splashtech: take the gb out of the repos
[12:16] <fredsa> bed for me too. g'night all
[12:16] <DShepherd> Afief: i think its a kernel thing
[12:16] <maz> Does anyone here use the GMP library?  I tried to install it on Ubuntu but the configure complained about there not being an m4.  Anyone know what that is??
[12:16] <DShepherd> Afief: hmmm i wonder if xgl will run on my ati card.. too?
[12:16] <laervian> anyone else apart riddlebox with a problem similar to ours?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> splashtech: wait
[12:16] <DShepherd> Afief: are you usin the opensource drivers?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> splashtech: ill give you a command
[12:16] <Acill> Can someone tell me what I need to do to enable the cool cube effect and windows the wiggle in ubuntu dapper?
[12:16] <dr3wster> hey everyone, I'd like to run a php script on my apache server but whenever I open it up using 192.168.2.1/drew/index.php opera/firefox/whatever asks me to download the file instead of having apache actually run the script.  How do I set this up properly?
[12:16] <Afief> DShepherd: so i should compile my own? no i'm using the binary
[12:16] <splashtech> gnomefreak: okay...
[12:17] <DShepherd> Afief: h,, ok
[12:17] <erUSUL> maz: it is an ancient macro programing language
[12:17] <Linuturk> i'm trying to share out a printer with samba. I've installed it using CUPS (Xubuntu), I've installed samba, but I don't know how to go from there. the wiki is kinda vague.
[12:17] <splashtech> I know it is there and I can connect to it (no network issues), coz I can browse it in firefox quite happily
[12:17] <riddlebox> dr3wster, you need php installed then
[12:17] <maz> thanks erUSUL, any idea how I can get it or get around needing it?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: sed -e 's/gb\.//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <DShepherd> Afief: i guess you could compile.. but I try to never recommend that..
[12:17] <dr3wster> riddlebox, I installed both php4 and php5 using synaptic
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: paste that in terminal
[12:17] <Ap0s7le> Has anyone setup Apache/SVN ? I need it on my local network.
[12:17] <splashtech> as root, or not?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: after that runs sudo apt-get update
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: as i typed it
[12:17] <Dial_tone> Acill, read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:17] <Acill> anyone know what I am talking about?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: no root
[12:17] <iiiears> gnomefreak - Is it possible to play  word specific soundfiles with xchat? - lol
[12:18] <Linuturk> i'm trying to share out a printer with samba. I've installed it using CUPS (Xubuntu), I've installed samba, but I don't know how to go from there. the wiki is kinda vague. I am printing from a windows machine.
[12:18] <splashtech> gnomefreak: sed: couldn't open temporary file /etc/apt//sedMTKXnd: Permission denied
[12:18] <riddlebox> dr3wster, is there anything in synaptic about apache-php or something
[12:18] <gnomefreak> iiiears: i dont know i onoly used xchat a handful of times
[12:18] <Afief> DHepherd, would i need to compile other modules/drivers other than the ATI( all the other stuff came built into ubuntu)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> splashtech: than use sudo
[12:18] <splashtech> ok
[12:18] <gnomefreak> splashtech: sorry
[12:18] <dr3wster> riddlebox, uhh, lemme check
[12:18] <erUSUL> maz: whay are you compiling gmp from source instead of installing it from the repos
[12:18] <Ap0s7le> Has anyone setup Apache/SVN ? I need it on my local network.
[12:18] <erUSUL> ?
[12:18] <DShepherd> Afief: i really dont know. I stay away compiling
[12:19] <iiiears> gnomefreak: Do you have that feature with your IRC client?
[12:19] <arsnova> Hi all -- is there a specific channel where i can find dvd+rw support?
[12:19] <DShepherd> Afief: and I dont know if it will solve your problem.. so i wont recommend doing so
[12:19] <gnomefreak> iiiears: nope well i might beable to config it but i dont bother
[12:19] <gnomefreak> iiiears: too much hacking for me in one day will make me cry ;)
[12:19] <splashtech> gnomefreak: same issue, I have a lot of "Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] "
[12:19] <maz> erUSUL - didn't know I could get it from the repos to be honest.  But that's giving me trouble too.  I keep getting the "couldn't stat source" message now that there's a new release out.  Can't work out how to fix my sources.list
[12:19] <DShepherd> Afief: but if you wanna try.. dont let me stop you
[12:19] <zenit> Ap0s7le: I've done a very simple setup. But the svn book explains it quite well.
[12:19] <Acill> Dial_Tone: Its called xgl right? I see an nvidea ione, but I have an ATI 9200 card
[12:20] <DShepherd> splashtech: its the default sources right?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> splashtech: ok thats not the repos thats a DNS issue
[12:20] <Afief> DShepherd: no i can't afford breaking my system now. but the 2.6.17 kernel does look good:D
[12:20] <Ap0s7le> zenit, may I PM you? This many people is crazy :)
[12:20] <_david_> hi
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Afief: ack
[12:20] <dr3wster> riddlebox, I've already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[12:20] <splashtech> DShepherd: everying is as installed
[12:20] <DShepherd> Afief: ok.. do your thing .. man
[12:20] <_david_> is it possible to use Voip on Ubuntu?
[12:20] <Afief> gnomefreak?
[12:20] <erUSUL> !tell maz about sources
[12:20] <gnomefreak> _david_: ekiga (sp)
[12:20] <splashtech> gnomefreak: well I would have guessed that, but its not. It knows the ip, and I can browse them in firefox
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Afief: im using 2.6.17 :9
[12:20] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:21] <splashtech> its just it doesnt seem to like to actually do its business... I dont get it
[12:21] <maz> thanks erUSUL
[12:21] <kdean06> Is there any way I can list the size of all of the files in a directory from smallest to biggest?
[12:21] <zenit> Ap0s7le: rather not. Ask your questions in the channel to also let other people respond, and to let others learn.
[12:21] <Dial_tone> Acill, if you read it you'd see a link for how to do it w/other cards
[12:21] <gnomefreak> splashtech: and you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[12:21] <Afief> gnomefreak: you don't seem happy with it
[12:21] <DShepherd> splashtech: listen to gnomefreak then..
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Afief: its eh
[12:21] <dr3wster> can anyone else help me get PHP scripts working on my apache2 server??
[12:21] <_david_> gnomefreak: ekiga (sp)?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Afief: i running it on a testing pc
[12:21] <Tonren> dr3wster: What's happening right now?
[12:21] <erUSUL> maz: use source-o-matic it worked for me... i can paste my sources.list is for dapper
[12:22] <gnomefreak> _david_: ekiga if spelled right is the new name for gnome-meeting
[12:22] <dr3wster> Tonren, right now opera/firefox just asks me if I want to download the php file
[12:22] <Ap0s7le> Ok zenit... So what is a simple setup in your case?
[12:22] <splashtech> gnomefreak: pinging is fine
[12:22] <Afief> gnomrfreak: not stable?
[12:22] <_david_> gnomefreak: what is gnome-meeting?
[12:22] <maz> erUSUL I'm still on Breezy
[12:22] <gnomefreak> splashtech: ok try adding de. to the list
[12:22] <Tonren> dr3wster: How did you go about setting up A2 & PHP?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> _david_: a Voip app default in gnome
[12:22] <_david_> gnomefreak: does the person im calling need to be using same program and linux?  cant I call a MS windows user?
[12:22] <dr3wster> Tonren, I just installed apache 2 and php5 in synaptic
[12:22] <zenit> Ap0s7le: just a simple, private repository for a small project. I used Apache2 and mod_dav_svn
[12:22] <erUSUL> maz: hat is exactly the problem with apt?
[12:22] <Lunar_Lamp> i have a weird problem.  i set up my wifi card with ndiswrapper, but didn't have access to a wireless network, and it added some time onto booting so i disabled it.  now i want to reenable it and it has vanished from my network settings - according to ndiswrapper the hardware and driver are present though, and it shows in an 'lspci'.  it has also vanished from my windows partition... does anyone have any ideas?
[12:23] <someothernick> ??is there a way to get a file to open with a wine app. i am tring to get .par2 files to open with quickpar.
[12:23] <Tonren> dr3wster: There are a couple of different packages.  I think you specifically need to install libapache2-php5, not just php5.
[12:23] <zenit> Ap0s7le: I didn't even bother setting up any security, but that's described quite well in the svn book at subversion.tigris.org
[12:23] <gnomefreak> _david_: not sure i dont use it but im thinking not
[12:23] <arsnova> has anybody here successfully written to a Sony DRU530A DVD drive using Breezy or Dapper?
[12:23] <Ap0s7le> zenit, does it allow you to access it over the web from remote locations? If so, is it secure and how do you like it?
[12:23] <Ap0s7le> Just caught your last message when I hit enter.
[12:23] <dr3wster> Tonren, I've installed libapache2-mod-php5
[12:23] <maddy_> fredsa
[12:24] <maddy_> E: Couldn't find package unurar-free
[12:24] <dr3wster> Tonren, I also restarted my computer and restarted apache
[12:24] <Tonren> dr3wster: Hmm... could you pastebin your apache2.conf?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> maddy_: enable multiverse repo
[12:24] <nalioth> iiiears: when you ask a question, do you routinely leave after waiting 10 seconds?
[12:24] <dr3wster> Tonren, pastebin? Sry, I'm kinda new at things
[12:24] <zenit> Ap0s7le: no problem. I can be set up securely yes, I just set it up this way while testing and since it's a private network I didn't bother changing it.
[12:24] <maz> erUSUL:  it says W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:24] <Tonren> !pastebin
[12:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:24] <Dial_tone> nalioth, lol
[12:24] <Tonren> dr3wster: pastebin wins all internets.
[12:24] <iiiears> lol - What. I just got back..
[12:24] <zenit> Ap0s7le: But all that's needed for authentication is there.
[12:25] <maddy_> gnomefreak,  ok
[12:25] <Ap0s7le> zenit, is this the area I need to be looking in? http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch06.html
[12:25] <iiiears> Channel overload.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ty nalioth
[12:25] <chaotics2> Bail bail bail!
[12:25] <splashtech> gnomefreak: exactly the same issue with the de. repos'
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ompaul: he got it
[12:25] <dr3wster> Tonren, where is my apache2.conf file?
[12:25] <ompaul> so I saw
[12:25] <Tonren> dr3wster: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[12:26] <Awesome-o2000> ouch what do you have to do to get klined off of freenode
[12:26] <nalioth> Awesome-o2000: don't ask
[12:26] <DShepherd> Tonren: when trying to find stuff.. locate file #works well most of the time
[12:26] <Awesome-o2000> youre right - I dont want to knwo
[12:26] <gnomefreak> im not sure splashtech  i wish i knew the answer  check the file and make sure the ones that are deb cdrom have a # infront of them in dapper there are 2 first 2 lines of file
[12:26] <Tonren> DShepherd: I know that; tell dr3wster!  Don't forget to sudo updatedb .
[12:27] <DShepherd> Tonren: srry..
[12:27] <dr3wster> Tonren,  it's sent.  it's called apache2.conf
[12:27] <DShepherd> Tonren: wrong person
[12:27] <zenit> Ap0s7le: absolutely, that's where I looked. I wasn't familiar with svn either, so chapter 2 & 3 proved quite uesful tool.
[12:27] <zenit> too
[12:27] <Tonren> dr3wster: You'll have to link me to the pastebin.
[12:27] <splashtech> gnomefreak: where is the actual file (stupid question alert) ?
[12:27] <zenit> Ap0s7le: It's a very good book btw.
[12:27] <Tonren> dr3wster: (just copy & paste the URL here)
[12:27] <Tonren> DShepherd: it's all good.
[12:27] <dr3wster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16341
[12:27] <DShepherd> Tonren: kool
[12:27] <gnomefreak> splashtech: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <riddlebox> what is in the server edition thats not in the Desktop?
[12:27] <Ap0s7le> Thank you zenit, I appreciate your time.
[12:27] <gnomefreak> brb checking into something
[12:28] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Please, help me. I have this problem when I was installing: Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libgpg-error0_1.1-4_i386.deb'
[12:28] <zenit> Ap0s7le: np
[12:28] <iiiears> nalioth - It would be nice to script different sounds for specific words. - just looking for an aspell script to modify.
[12:28] <erUSUL> maz: have you tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:28] <dr3wster> Tonren, I'm doing sudo updatedb right now,but it's taking a while
[12:28] <nalioth> iiiears: i have no clue
[12:28] <iiiears> brb - grin
[12:29] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: where were you trying to install?
[12:29] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, yes
[12:29] <maz> erUSUL - I'm reluctant to upgrage dist.  Last time I did it I killed X and nearly lost all my files
[12:29] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: that;s a wat
[12:29] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: what were you trying to install
[12:29] <maz> erUSUL: and it should be possible to stick to the old dists for 18 months
[12:29] <R_a_f_a_E_L> The Dapper
[12:30] <judah> The Dapper
[12:30] <judah> THE
[12:30] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: from cd?
[12:30] <SurfnKid> Dappa
[12:30] <dr3wster> Tonren, got anything?
[12:30] <R_a_f_a_E_L> No, I upgraded it
[12:30] <judah> Dappa propa
[12:30] <Hexidigital_> word
[12:30] <someothernick> Is there a way to get a file to open with a wine app. i am tring to get .par2 files to open with quickpar.
[12:31] <Tonren> dr3wster: updatedb is just a tool for making locate work.   What happens when you type this: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php5
[12:31] <erUSUL> maz: this will not update to dapper if you did not changed your sources.list to point to dapper. you can use upgrade instead of dist-upgrade
[12:31] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: you can trying removing that file and upgrading again...
[12:31] <R_a_f_a_E_L> How do I remove it?
[12:31] <dr3wster> Tonren, it said php5.conf and php5.load on two separate lines
[12:31] <maz> erUSUL - oh, I didn't realise that... thanks!  I'll give it a go now
[12:31] <Tonren> dr3wster: Bizarre... I'll have to keep thinking about this for a few minutes...
[12:31] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: what's the location of the file again?
[12:32] <dr3wster> Tonren, all right, thanks:).
[12:32] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: /var/something.. what was it again?
[12:32] <nalioth> maz: if your linux works fine, don't upgrade
[12:32] <Tonren> dr3wster: Is your document root in /var/www?
[12:32] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how do i do a search in the history area?
[12:32] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, '/var/cache/apt/archives/libgpg-error0_1.1-4_i386.deb'
[12:32] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: for what?
[12:32] <dr3wster> Tonren, whaaa?  My php file is in /var/www/drew/index.php, if that's what you mean
[12:33] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: for any word
[12:33] <maz> nalioth - but it doesn't.  It gives me "couldn't stat source" errors whenever I use apt-get
[12:33] <Seveas> R_a_f_a_E_L, sudo apt-get clean
[12:33] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: give me an example of what you are trying
[12:33] <splashtech> gnomefreak: I checked the file, and it was fine. I guess this is a bit of a weird one. Thanks for your help anyway :)
[12:33] <nalioth> maz: have you pasted your /etc/sources.list  to a pastebin?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> splashtech: yw sorry about that
[12:33] <Tonren> dr3wster: "DocumentRoot" is a line in .conf files that tells a site where to look for its files.  So your DocumentRoot is indeed in /var/www!  ;P
[12:34] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: word in the repos?
[12:34] <dr3wster> Tonren, gotcha:p
[12:34] <maz> nalioth what's a pastebin?
[12:34] <nalioth> !pastebin
[12:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:34] <Tonren> dr3wster: Are you accessing your local website by typing file:/// or http://localhost into your browser?
[12:34] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[12:34] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: like if your looking for java?
[12:34] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: put sudo rm -f infront of the /var/blah blah
[12:34] <dr3wster> Tonren, the localhost one.
[12:34] <dr3wster> tonren, wait, no...
[12:34] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, thx very much
[12:34] <DShepherd> no.. in the history pane.. like what was said before..
[12:34] <Tonren> dr3wster: oh?
[12:35] <dr3wster> tonren, I just type in my local ip : 192.168.1.101 and let it load through that.  When I type in http://localhost it asks me to download something as well
[12:35] <nalioth> DShepherd: ?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: in irssi? nautilus?
[12:35] <Tonren> dr3wster: You should be using http://localhost, to the best of my knowledge.
[12:35] <DShepherd> nalioth: for example.. I want to search for... the work infront. in irrsi
[12:35] <Tonren> dr3wster: What happens if you go to http://localhost/drew?
[12:35] <dr3wster> Tonren, well when I just type in my IP address it gives me my /var/www directory and says powered by apache...
[12:35] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: can i do that...
[12:36] <nalioth> DShepherd: why are you issuing nuke orders for /var/ ?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i have never tried to search for a word in irssi
[12:36] <dr3wster> tonren, it asks me to download something
[12:36] <DShepherd> nalioth: oh... not the /var/ folder but the file.. that he was talking about
[12:36] <Tonren> dr3wster: It asks if you want to download index.php, right?
[12:36] <maz> nalioth ok, but what's the point of this pastebin?
[12:36] <dr3wster> tonren, oh wait, nvm... http://localhost is working now, in firefox.  but the drew folder still isn't.
[12:36] <nalioth> DShepherd: when you are using those commands, please be very specific
[12:36] <dr3wster> tonren, uh, lemme see.
[12:36] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: you put the whole path to the rm right. and not just /var right?
[12:37] <DShepherd> nalioth: your right.. i should thanks
[12:37] <nalioth> maz: because if you paste your sources.list in here, you'll be interrupting everyone
[12:37] <dr3wster> Tonren, hrm, firefox actually wants me to download i56q6y7y.phtml ... weird
[12:37] <maz> nalioth ok i get it
[12:37] <SurfnKid> ubotu tell maz about pastebin
[12:37] <SurfnKid> !pastebi
[12:37] <Tonren> dr3wster: now THAT is strange.
[12:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebi
[12:37] <SurfnKid> !pastebin
[12:37] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, right
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:37] <erUSUL> maz: we can see if your apt is well configured if you paste it there and tell us here the url
[12:37] <maz> nalioth so should i paste it there now?
[12:37] <nalioth> maz: please do
[12:37] <dr3wster> Tonren, should I empty my drew folder except for the index.php file?
[12:37] <nalioth> maz: and bring us back the URL it becomes
[12:37] <Tonren> dr3wster: Yeah, try doing that.
[12:38] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: yeah.. I should be more careful next time. I dont want a newbie to have a bad experience because I assumed he knew something
[12:38] <Tonren> dr3wster: Or just make a folder whose sole contents is a file index.php that reads <?php echo "HELLO WORLD!"; ?>
[12:38] <dr3wster> Tonren, do I need to restart the server now?
[12:38] <lauri> i am having problems mounting a ntfs partition.. .who could help me????
[12:38] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, look at this: The upgrade aborts now. Your system can be in an unusable state. A recovery was run (dpkg --configure -a).
[12:38] <Tonren> dr3wster: Nope.  Changes made to the file structure don't need a restart to take effect.
[12:38] <iwo> hey, how do i open a terminal in ubuntu??
[12:38] <rixth> I have a grpahics question. Can xorg put out WUXGA (1920x1200)? Also, what is the physical screen size of a 24" Wide?
[12:38] <erUSUL> lauri: describe the problems
[12:38] <Tonren> iwo: Try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:39] <dr3wster> tonren, do I put the <>'s in the code too?
[12:39] <erUSUL> !tell lauri about ntfs
[12:39] <Tonren> dr3wster: Yeah, that's how the server knows it's PHP.  I take it you're new to web scripting and stuff?
[12:39] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: sudo apt-ge update first.. and see if that error persists
[12:39] <iwo> thanks Tonren
[12:39] <dr3wster> Tonren, yeah, I'm trying to run copied code:p.
[12:39] <R_a_f_a_E_L> From sudo until first or just until update?
[12:40] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: so can i search in the for words in the history area...
[12:40] <DShepherd> ?
[12:40] <maz> nalioth, erUSUL etc, here's the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16342
[12:40] <Tonren> iwo: No prob Iwo.  I could never find the actual menu option myself, either.  :P
[12:40] <lauri> no help?????
[12:40] <dr3wster> ok Tonren, now I'm getting a Forbidden error on the test/index.php file that you had me make
[12:40] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i dont know never tried it
[12:40] <dr3wster> Tonren, is that better or worse?
[12:40] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: sudo apt-get update..
[12:40] <Tonren> dr3wster: we have made progress.
[12:40] <dr3wster> Tonren, sweet
[12:40] <splashtech> dr3wster: just needs correct permissions
[12:40] <erUSUL> lauri: have you read what ubotu told you?
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: You see, the way apache2 works is that whenever someone accesses the site through a browser, there's a user called "www-user" that accesses the files
[12:41] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: not dots at the end. I had 2
[12:41] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: tlook for it at irssi.org
[12:41] <SurfnKid> oh well lauri left :D
[12:41] <dr3wster> Tonren, ok, so how do I set up the permissions?
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: right now, only you have permission to mess with index.php
[12:41] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: hmmm ok
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: you use a command called chmod
[12:41] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: that site has alot of good info in general
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: do you plan on doing a lot of stuff with Linux and Apache?  if you do, you should practice figuring out man pages by typing "man chmod".
[12:42] <_david_> gnomefreak: E: Couldn't find package ekiga
[12:42] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, OK, I noted that. So, do I have do upgrade again?
[12:42] <_david_> gnomefreak: another othter ideas?
[12:42] <_david_> is it possible to use Voip on Ubuntu?  anyone know?  ekiga doesnt exist
[12:42] <dr3wster> Tonren, haha, not really, or at least not yet... wanna just tell me what to type? :p
[12:42] <nalioth> maz: you are unable to run apt-get at all?
[12:42] <Tonren> dr3wster: Fine, fine, I'll let you take the easy way out for now
[12:42] <gnomefreak> _david_: its in your menu under internet
[12:42] <dr3wster> tonren, haha, thanks
[12:42] <gnomefreak> but give me a sec
[12:43] <gnomefreak> nalioth: ekiga is the right spelling right?
[12:43] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: you upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[12:43] <Tonren> dr3wster: there are a ouple of ways to do this, but for now, type: " chmod o+x index.php " (no quotes) while inside the directory
[12:43] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, that is right
[12:43] <nalioth> gnomefreak: yes
[12:43] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: wat method are you using to do so?
[12:43] <dr3wster> tonren, done
[12:43] <Flannel> gnomefreak: it is.  it's not in repos under that name though, it seems.
[12:44] <dr3wster> tonren, buuut it still won't give me access
[12:44] <Tonren> dr3wster: basically what that command does is say "add (+) permissions for others (o) to execute (x) the file."
[12:44] <rixth> I have a grpahics question. Can xorg put out WUXGA (1920x1200)? Also, what is the physical screen size of a 24" Wide?
[12:44] <Tonren> dr3wster: uh-oh.  hmmm
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if i can find it and not lock me up
[12:44] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: are you changing your source.list manually or doing gksudo update-manager -d?
[12:44] <_david_> gnomefreak: what do I need to use gnomemeeting?
[12:44] <Flannel> gnomefreak: oh, sorry.  forgot I was still on breezy.  heh, Im going to stop ;)
[12:44] <splashtech> rixth: I always thought (but I could be wrong) that xorg will do whatever your system & monitor is capable of
[12:44] <Tonren> dr3wster: OK, inside that directory, show me the line it gives you when you type: " ls -l | grep index "
[12:44] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, Package manager
[12:44] <erUSUL> nalioth: the error of maz is about a missing archive  /var/cache/apt/*breezy*.gz (or something like that)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> _david_: you dont have to
[12:45] <dr3wster> Tonren, -rw------x 1 drew drew 31 2006-06-23 18:38 index.php
[12:45] <_david_> gnomefreak: is it safe to use dapper CD to upgrade from breezy?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> _david_: you can use skype if you like
[12:45] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, update-manager
[12:45] <rixth> splashtech, cool. Also, can you tell me if a geforce fx5200 could power it?
[12:45] <_david_> gnomefreak: what do I need to use gnomemeeting?  microphone?
[12:45] <nalioth> erUSUL: maz: sounds like the repos are wonky atm
[12:45] <gnomefreak> _david_: your on breezy?
[12:45] <Lunar_Lamp> is this a good channel to be asking network related questions?
[12:45] <Tonren> dr3wster: oops... I was wrong.  you don't need to give others EXECUTE access, you need to give them READ access.
[12:45] <Tonren> dr3wster: try chmod o+r index.php instead
[12:45] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, but Im not using the terminal
[12:45] <_david_> gnomefreak: breezy and got the Dapper CD sent to me!  is it safe to use dapper CD to upgrade?
[12:45] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok.. sudo just run gksudo update-manager -d and you should be fine...
[12:45] <gnomefreak> _david_: dont know never used it
[12:45] <Flannel> DShepherd, R_a_f_a_E_L, no -d
[12:45] <splashtech> rixth: no I cant tellyou that. But I would imagine so. I have a 20" wide running off of an ancient 32meg piece of sh*t card
[12:46] <DShepherd> Flannel: no d?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> _david_: im gonna guess a mic would help but dont know for sure
[12:46] <dr3wster> Tonren, *sighs*, now firefox asks me to download a file again.
[12:46] <DShepherd> !upgrade
[12:46] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:46] <_david_> gnomefreak: im using breezy atm, and just got the Dapper CD sent to me!  is it safe to use dapper CD to upgrade?
[12:46] <DShepherd> Flannel: that;s what ubotu says..
[12:46] <Flannel> DShepherd: no, dapper is a stable release now, -d is to override the stable check.  -d currently upgrades to edgy.
[12:46] <gnomefreak> _david_: yes should be
[12:46] <Tonren> dr3wster: gahhhh... is your PHP file just <?php echo "hello world"; ?> ?
[12:46] <Flannel> DShepherd: "to latest development version" - edgy
[12:46] <_david_> gnomefreak: ok here goes
[12:46] <DShepherd> Flannel: ooooh
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Flannel: no it wont
[12:46] <dr3wster> Tonren, yup.
[12:46] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: it wont?
[12:46] <Tonren> dr3wster: okay, and it's still asking you to download that gobbledegook file?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Flannel: i dont think it will do that till after the sync
[12:47] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: so -d is still right?
[12:47] <Flannel> no.  just gksudo update-manager is enough
[12:47] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, Ive got this: Software index is broken
[12:47] <R_a_f_a_E_L> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i wouldnt use it but it never worked for me trying to upgrade to edgy on this box
[12:47] <maz> nalioth, erUSUL: so there's no problem at my end?
[12:47] <nalioth> maz: i don't think so, try again later (in a few hours)
[12:47] <dr3wster> Tonren, it never says what the file is, it just says "A phtml file" but when I go to save it to a disk, yeah it gives it a gobbledegook name.
[12:47] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: are you using synaptic?
[12:47] <Flannel> DShepherd: update manager checks to see if theres stable upgrades, dapper is now fully released, and should be identified as an upgrade.
[12:47] <Tonren> dr3wster: I am perplexed.  hmmm...
[12:47] <maz> nalioth, erUSUL: I also remember a similiar error mesg back when breezy came out and i didn't want to upgrade from hoary
[12:47] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i dont advise using the -d because i dont know when it will start working
[12:48] <splashtech> dr3wster: whats the problem again briefly?
[12:48] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, yes I think so
[12:48] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[12:48] <dr3wster> Tonren, and when I open that file it opens in text editor and is the code that you asked me to type
[12:48] <dr3wster> splashtech, PHP scripts won't run on my apache2.0 server
[12:48] <splashtech> dr3wster: what does it do?
[12:48] <Tonren> dr3wster: create an index.html file that just conains some text (like "yo 'sup" or whatever), then try to access it the same way through firefox.
[12:48] <dr3wster> splashtech, it asks me to download it.
[12:48] <splashtech> is it named .phtml or .php?
[12:48] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get install -f # on the terminal that should fix your probs
[12:48] <Tonren> dr3wster: does it ask you to download the HTML file, too?  or does it display the text like it ought to?
[12:49] <eighty> is there a good reference for dual booting a macbook pro with ubuntu?
[12:49] <dr3wster> Tonren, it displays the text like it ought to
[12:49] <R_a_f_a_E_L> got it
[12:49] <splashtech> dr3wster: is it named .phtml or .php?
[12:49] <Tonren> dr3wster: Okay, so it seems like it's specifically a PHP problem, not with the rest of the server... hmm....
[12:49] <eighty> or is it even possible?
[12:49] <Tonren> splashtech: .phtml
[12:49] <splashtech> dr3wster: try .php
[12:50] <Tonren> splashtech: I misunderstood.  The FILE is .php, but the file it's asking him to DOWNLOAD is .phtml
[12:50] <dr3wster> splashtech, the file itself is a .php file but firefox downloads a phtml file
[12:50] <Abnix> hmm...
[12:50] <Tonren> beat you, dr3wster .  hehehe
[12:50] <splashtech> thats peculiar
[12:50] <Tonren> splashtech: Yeah, I've been debugging with him for almost a half hour now and it's just not making sense.
[12:50] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[12:50] <dr3wster> (btw, Tonren, thanks a bunch for the help:))
[12:50] <splashtech> I was expecting it to be a mime type issue or a php not being loaded issue
[12:50] <Abnix> thinking of converting my rig here back over from ubuntu to gentoo...getting tired of the lack in selection of packages ehre...
[12:50] <splashtech> that can cause downloading
[12:51] <Tonren> dr3wster: glad to help out, man
[12:51] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, man, this is a headache
[12:51] <splashtech> but nopt file extension changes....
[12:51] <Tonren> splashtech: His PHP mods are enabled, there's nothing funny in his apache2.conf, and he's correctly accessing it through http://localhost/foo/bar/index.php
[12:51] <splashtech> ok
[12:51] <splashtech> long shot her
[12:51] <Tonren> splashtech: It's also just a "hello world" PHP script, so there's nothing in the script altering headers
[12:51] <splashtech> here
[12:51] <splashtech> change it so its like
[12:51] <rixth> How do I get X to output via DVI instead of the VGA D-SUB?
[12:51] <dr3wster> splashtech, could you please put my name in your messages so xchat highlights them? thanks:)
[12:52] <splashtech> <?php header('text/html'); echo "Your text"; ?>
[12:52] <Tonren> dr3wster: have you installed any other server-related packages?
[12:52] <Tonren> splashtech: That was gonna be my next idea
[12:52] <dr3wster> Tonren, uh, maybe, what specifically do you want?
[12:52] <splashtech> Tonren: youi know what they say about great minds... ;)
[12:52] <Sivik> are y'all getting these messages
[12:52] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, Its over
[12:52] <Tonren> dr3wster: I don't really know... just anything that might be messing with the way apache2 works.
[12:52] <DShepherd> nalioth: from what Flannel and gnomefreak were saying update-manager -d should upgrade to Edgy..if it is out..
[12:52] <bur[n] er> can anyone recommend a solution that works in place of quickbooks?  I need something to manage invoices and if they are paid or not
[12:53] <splashtech> dr3wster: try this in your php file: <?php header('text/html'); echo "Your text"; ?>
[12:53] <dr3wster> splashtech, I did , no go
[12:53] <Sivik> bur[n] er, did you check google?
[12:53] <splashtech> dr3wster: same thing?
[12:53] <fiyawerx> should you in general update to a 686 kernel?
[12:53] <DShepherd> nalioth: ubotu suggests that when you message upgrade to him.. that can be dangerous or not what people want.
[12:53] <dr3wster> tonren, well, I have apache 1 installed, but I stopped it so that I could run apache2
[12:53] <DShepherd> nalioth: can you change it
[12:53] <DShepherd> ?
[12:53] <dr3wster> splashtech, yep
[12:53] <nalioth> DShepherd: i know nothing about upgrade-mangler
[12:53] <bur[n] er> Sivik: i did, but personal recommendatio would be better
[12:53] <dr3wster> tonren, should I uninstall apache1?
[12:53] <splashtech> dr3wster: I would
[12:53] <Tonren> dr3wster: I would suggest uninstalling that, yeah.
[12:54] <nalioth> DShepherd: PM ubotu the changes you want
[12:54] <Tonren> splashtech: great minds, thinking, etc.
[12:54] <splashtech> yup
[12:54] <dr3wster> tonren and splashtech, complete removal or regular removal?
[12:54] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok. run update manager now
[12:54] <splashtech> dr3wster: I'd personally go for complete. To be sure
[12:54] <Tonren> dr3wster: sudo apt-get --purge remove
[12:54] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: update-manager that is
[12:54] <dr3wster> tonren, haha I'll just stick to synaptic for now:p
[12:55] <Tonren> hehe, 's cool
[12:55] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, man, Im using the portuguese version
[12:55] <DShepherd> nalioth: pm ubotu the changes I want? not sure I understand you
[12:55] <dr3wster> splashtech,  and Tonren should I also uninstall apache-common and apache-perl?
[12:55] <R_a_f_a_E_L> I really dont know the name of stuffs in englise
[12:55] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: of what? update-manager? is that a problem?
[12:55] <rixth> How do I get X to output via DVI instead of the VGA D-SUB?
[12:55] <splashtech> dr3wster: go for it. You dont need them for apache2. I beleive there are apache2-* versions of them
[12:56] <dr3wster> splashtech and Tonren, all right, I'm uninstalling now
[12:56] <R_a_f_a_E_L> NO, Im using the portuguese version of Ubuntu
[12:56] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok.. but the update-manager is english you say?
[12:56] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, I tried to contact in #ubuntu-br, but they didnt help me
[12:56] <Awesome-o2000> how large is the bare server install?
[12:57] <Sivik> under 3 gbs
[12:57] <splashtech> rixth: is there a monitor on each?
[12:57] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:57] <rixth> splashtech, nope, I only have one.
[12:57] <Flannel> R_a_f_a_E_L: there should be a big box on the top, a new section, regarding the upgrade.
[12:57] <Awesome-o2000> Sivik, duh
[12:57] <Tonren> dr3wster: yo.. on line 334 of your apache2.conf, try changing ".php .phtml" to just ".php"
[12:57] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok.. you just telling me stuff right..? :-)
[12:57] <Kazukisan> When i put a cd into my drive it does not pop on the screen or ever reconize that i have a music cd in the drive, it works fine for data cd's but i can't play music cd's. also how can i tell if alsa is working cause my apps dont say anything about alsa just oss ???
[12:57] <splashtech> rixth: thats odd. I had a very similar problem with breezy ages ago. I cant remember how I got round it tho, sorry :S
[12:57] <Awesome-o2000> anyone got anything a little less vague?
[12:57] <dr3wster> Tonren, all right.
[12:57] <Sivik> Awesome-2000: how much space do you have?
[12:58] <rixth> splashtech, so if I had a monitor on each it'd be different?
[12:58] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Im not turn this in a problem, OK. I just run the upgrade...
[12:58] <Tonren> dr3wster: you'll have to do gksudo gvim apache2.conf or sudo vi apache2.conf to have permissions to alter it
[12:58] <dr3wster> tonren, yeah, I've got that at least
[12:58] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Reinstalling again, is that right?
[12:58] <splashtech> rixth: I dont know. I only ask because thats what my problem was. I had two monitors and it was outputting to the secondary one on vga, and not primary on dvi
[12:59] <Tonren> Dial_tone gets the "tasteful quit message of the millenium" award
[12:59] <nalioth> DShepherd: you've gotten two messages
[12:59] <dr3wster> Tonren, do I have to restart my apache server now?
[12:59] <Tonren> dr3wster: Yep.
[12:59] <eobanb_> Kazukisan, what happens when you open a music player, like Rhythmbox or amaroK
[12:59] <dr3wster> Tonren, keep in mind that I'm still uninstalling in synaptic, it's sloow
[12:59] <DShepherd> nalioth: what you talking about?
[12:59] <dr3wster> Tonren, k, what do I type to do that again?
[01:00] <Tonren> dr3wster: apache2ctl -k stop && apache2ctl -k graceful
[01:00] <Kazukisan> eobanb_ I Dont have those i only have xmedia and mplayer and gxine and they dont say i have cd;s in drive
[01:00] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, I just run the upgrade...
[01:00] <dr3wster> tonren, well, I forgot to sudo it, but I also got a weird error...
[01:00] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, is that right?
[01:00] <dr3wster> Tonren, httpd (pid 16938?) not running
[01:00] <dr3wster> httpd not running, trying to start
[01:00] <Tonren> dr3wster: something about a server name, right?  don't worry about that.
[01:00] <Tonren> dr3wster: oh.  uhhh... well, it should be running now, anyway, if it wasn't before
[01:01] <maz> erUSUL, nalioth:  I did the apt-get update, then I removed the weird two entries at the bottom of my sources.list.  Now I can run apt-get install with no probs.  Thanks lads
[01:01] <dr3wster> Tonren, httpd not running, trying to start
[01:01] <dr3wster> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[01:01] <dr3wster> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[01:01] <dr3wster> Unable to open logs
[01:01] <dr3wster> tonren, that was after I used sudo
[01:01] <Tonren> dr3wster: OH!  sorry.  you have to sudo both of those commands.
[01:01] <dr3wster> Tonren, all right, it worked now
[01:01] <maz> erUSUL, nalioth now all I need is to be able to download the gmp library - not sure what it's called, but it's not just gmp
[01:01] <Tonren> dr3wster: sudo only affects commands on the same line as itself.
[01:01] <nalioth> dr3wster: please don't paste in here
[01:01] <Flannel> Tonren, dr3wster, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:02] <dr3wster> nalioth, sorry
[01:02] <nalioth> maz: apt-cache search FOO
[01:02] <ompaul> dr3wster, please don't paste, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org in its place its useful for that
[01:02] <Tonren> Flannel: Is that the same as sudo apache2ctl -k stop && sudo apache2ctl -k graceful?
[01:02] <dr3wster> Tonren, do I need to do what Flannel recommended?
[01:02] <eobanb_> Kazukisan, are you using ubuntu?
[01:02] <Tonren> dr3wster: not sure, that's not the way I do it, but that doesn't mean it's not right
[01:02] <Flannel> Tonren: that lets the init.d things restart it.
[01:02] <Kazukisan> eobanb: Im using ubuntu server with xubuntu_desktop installed
[01:02] <splashtech> dr3wster, Tonren: Good luck with your apache2/php. I'm off now, gotta be up early for work.
[01:03] <Tonren> splashtech: adios.  thanks for the suggestions
[01:03] <dr3wster> Tonren, I tried it now and the hello world file loads but it says "your text", not hello world
[01:03] <Flannel> it's the "preferred" method of restarting apache
[01:03] <eobanb_> Kazukisan, try installing rhythmbox
[01:03] <Kazukisan> eobanb_ okay
[01:03] <Tonren> dr3wster: that's because you copy & pasted splashtech's suggestion, remember?  it's working!
[01:03] <riddlebox> what is in the server edition thats not in the Desktop edition?
[01:03] <dr3wster> Tonren, YAY!
[01:03] <eobanb_> riddlebox, it's more like, what ISN'T in the sever edition that's in the desktop edition
[01:04] <dr3wster> Tonren, yep, it's working perfectly now.  Thanks a BUNCH!:-D
[01:04] <eobanb_> riddlebox, by default, the server version doesn't have xorg installed
[01:04] <Tonren> dr3wster: i wonder what happened to your apache2.conf that altered that line.
[01:04] <Tonren> dr3wster: glad I could help, man!  rock on.  i'm around here all the time if you need more help.  i do a ton of PHP stuff
[01:04] <riddlebox> eobanb_, ok so I should just get the Desktop edition for my mythtv and asterisk server then
[01:04] <eobanb_> riddlebox, probably.
[01:04] <salah> is there any ways to checks which application are using CPU? I have AMD Sempron 1.6 Ghz, acting like PI 100 MHz
[01:04] <dr3wster> Tonren, I changed my apache2.conf because a thread on ubuntuforums said too... guess they were just kidding:p
[01:04] <riddlebox> salah, top
[01:04] <dr3wster> tonren, all right, I'll cya later then:)
[01:04] <Tonren> dr3wster: wait wait!
[01:05] <dr3wster> Tonren, yes?
[01:05] <Tonren> dr3wster: whenever you're changing files like that, it's REALLY important to ALWAYS make a note of it in the file
[01:05] <Flannel> dr3wster: apache will work out of the box, with php
[01:05] <eobanb_> sure, salah, just open the System Monitor
[01:05] <salah> riddlebox, what top?
[01:05] <dr3wster> Tonren, I had a backup file saved
[01:05] <Tonren> dr3wster: my important files are LITTERED with lines that say "# added by Max" or "# THIS IS A CRAZY HACK".
[01:05] <riddlebox> salah, run "sudo top" in a terminal and you will see what you need
[01:05] <Flannel> dr3wster: well, once you install them with apt.  no config changes necessary.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:05] <Tonren> dr3wster: backups ar egood, but don't be afraid to add comments using #.  it doesn' thur tanything, and you'll know that you can safely change it later on if something is no longer working.
[01:05] <dr3wster> Flannel, it's all working now, thanks.
[01:06] <Tonren> Flannel: Don't worry, we figured it out.  He made an earlier change to his apache2.conf that was screwing things up
[01:06] <dr3wster> tonren, all right, thanks again!  But I'm gonna go grab a bite to eat, so I'll ttyl, Tonren.
[01:06] <eobanb_> riddlebox, sudo not necessary
[01:06] <Tonren> dr3wster: enjoy your food.  adios.
[01:06] <valehru> installing skype on dapper 64.  GEtting an error that it cannot find libqt3c102-mt when I start skype
[01:07] <eobanb_> valehru, have you checked the skype forums
[01:07] <valehru> checking google currently
[01:07] <riddlebox> eobanb_, I didnt think so but I wanted to make sure it worked
[01:07] <Cooner750> Ok
[01:08] <Cooner750> I've got a problem with ndiswrapper, can anyone help?
[01:08] <eobanb_> Cooner750, not until you say what the problem actually is
[01:08] <salah> I have 1 GB RAM (dual), AMD Sempron 1,71 GHz, 7200 RPM, 128 graphics memory, and the load is at 0.82, 0.94, 1.03 with totem, firefox, xchat and azureus open. is this usual?
[01:08] <lecaros> what problem? drivers? device? etc...
[01:08] <eobanb_> salah, i'd guess that azureus is eating CPU/ram
[01:09] <eobanb_> azureus is notorious for that
[01:09] <salah> yeah
[01:09] <Sivik> how do i go about turning on the radio via the acpi tree for a wireless card?
[01:09] <eobanb_> salah, there are plenty of other more lightweight bittorrent clients available
[01:09] <lecaros> Cooner750what problem? drivers? device? etc...
[01:09] <lecaros> Cooner750 what problem? drivers? device? etc...
[01:09] <Cooner750> I installed the drivers for my ZyXEL ZyAir G-302 wireless card using ndiswrapper, using ndisgtk. It said "Hardware Present: YES" so good there. It is detected under iwconfig, wlan0, managed mode, ESSID is set right, I set encryption, but it wont work
[01:09] <salah> eobanb_, what one are you using?
[01:09] <Cooner750> The AP address is 00:00:00:00:00:00
[01:10] <Cooner750> so I assume that's why
[01:10] <Cooner750> I cant get it to set
[01:10] <Cooner750> manually
[01:10] <Sivik> Cooner750, what happens when you run iwlist scan?
[01:10] <lecaros> Cooner750 iwlist scan
[01:10] <Stormx2> Oh I missed you ubuntu <3<3<3
[01:10] <eobanb_> salah, well i don't use bittorrent on ubuntu actually
[01:11] <Sivik> salah: are you having issues with bittorrent on ubuntu?
[01:11] <Cooner750> let me see
[01:11] <eobanb_> salah, you might just try the package 'bittorrent'
[01:11] <eobanb_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/bittorrent
[01:11] <Sivik> salah: did you try to install via apt-get?
[01:11] <Lunar_Lamp> i have a similar problem - in that it relates to ndiswrapper - i installed ndiswrapper drivers etc and it all seemed to be working - but i disabled the card, and it's vanished.  there is no wlan0 on my system, but according to ndiswrapper the drivers and installed and hardware is present
[01:11] <eobanb_> Sivik, that's not his issue
[01:11] <Cooner750> at line "eth0 dosent support scanning" with a flashing cursor under that
[01:11] <eobanb_> Sivik, he's trying to find a replacement for azureus
[01:11] <Sivik> eobanb_, sorry
[01:11] <ubuntu_Iz> i came here for help, but i figured it out
[01:12] <ubuntu_Iz> :
[01:12] <Cooner750> Got this: wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:12] <ubuntu_Iz> later
[01:12] <salah> Sivik, yes, installed with apt-get :) .. the music is lagging, firefox is taking long time to load even with 100 mbps connection etc..
[01:12] <Sivik> Cooner750, then something still isn't right
[01:12] <Cooner750> not sure what?
[01:12] <eobanb_> salah, i'm almost positive it's azureus
[01:12] <Sivik> Cooner750, your wireless radio is probably not on
[01:13] <eobanb_> Sivik, he already said he realises that's the problem
[01:13] <Cooner750> It's on, however the antenna is missing, but windows was able to pick it up on 2/5 signal, and it worked, so I wouldnt see why not
[01:13] <Stormx2> salah: open gnome-system-monitor
[01:13] <salah> eobanb_, azureus is killed, still the same.. but my computer have 3 days uptime, does that have anything to say?
[01:13] <eobanb_> salah, uhmmm
[01:13] <salah> Stormx2, yes
[01:13] <arsnova> Can anybody help with a DVD writer, or at least point me to a channel for discussing this?
[01:13] <eobanb_> salah, that just means it's been on for 3 days
[01:13] <Stormx2> salah: whats the problem?
[01:14] <Sivik> ok, how do i turn on the raido for my broadcom wireless card in the acpi tree
[01:14] <salah> eobanb_, I know, but does not the computer get slower if the uptime is for a long time?
[01:14] <eobanb_> salah, uhm, no, not really
[01:14] <eobanb_> salah, just run top and see what's using the most CPU
[01:14] <eobanb_> and/or check how much ram is being used
[01:15] <dfamorato> hi folks... I was wondering if anyone could help me
[01:15] <eobanb_> !helpme
[01:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:15] <Sivik> dfamorato, whats your questions
[01:16] <lecaros> Cooner750 did you try with madwifi?
[01:17] <dfamorato> My menus have several repeated icons of all the aplications.... now i have about 30 Cal, 30 evolution.. 30 palnners
[01:17] <salah> btw, anyone heard of "wulfor" before?
[01:17] <cooner750> Hello,
[01:18] <Xappe> salah, wulfor reloaded?
[01:18] <cooner750> Talking from upstairs machine with Wireless AP
[01:18] <cooner750> the AP radio is on
[01:18] <salah> Xappe, yeah, a DC++-like download client
[01:18] <Xappe> salah, it's now called linuxdc++
[01:18] <salah> ah, thanks, been searching for it for a long time
[01:19] <Xappe> salah, linuxdcpp.berlios.de
[01:19] <Xappe> salah, it's quite nice nowadays
[01:19] <dfamorato> i don't know why my menus have several repeated icons of all the aplications.... now i have about 30 Cal, 30 evolution.. 30 palnners.. What should i Do ??
[01:20] <salah> Xappe, cool, can I get it via apt-get?
[01:20] <rixth_> Hm, when using TwinView there are a couple bugs. Like I can't right click on a link in Firefox. I have to double right click to get the menu up.
[01:20] <krazykit> Xappe: i didn't even know it was still being worked on.  last i used it, it crashed every 15 minutes...
[01:20] <Xappe> salah, no, you have to compile the latest cvs yourself
[01:20] <rddp> I have a problem with my dvd drive if anyone can help. It seems to have stopped loading dvds - it just sits there and blinks when I put a dvd in, and if there is a dvd at boot, boot it stops at the LVM stage
[01:20] <salah> Xappe, alright, can you help me compile it?
[01:21] <mjr> rddp, I had a similar issue. Faulty drive cable.
[01:21] <mjr> Recommend checking it
[01:21] <Xappe> salah, no sorry, I have to go to bed
[01:21] <hawkaloogie_> hi, i'm using courier for smtp and pop3 and I can send mail by telnet from localhost, but I can't recieve mail from remote SMTP mailers. I get 513 Relaying Denied. what do I add to smtpaccess to allow relaying mail to my local mailboxes from any remote address?
[01:22] <salah> Xappe, ok, have a good night
[01:22] <Zambezi> Anyone familar with xbiso or extract-xiso? I really need help.
[01:22] <Xappe> salah, thanks
[01:22] <valehru> gah..still dicking around with the skype installation
[01:23] <valehru>  libqt-mt.so.3 => not found
[01:23] <Xappe> salah, follow the readme in the source and you should be fine
[01:23] <valehru> ldd skype ->  libqt-mt.so.3 => not found
[01:23] <bernouli> is there any way i can clean up all that harddisk icons on my desktop?
[01:24] <fwtest>  is there any way i can clean up all that harddisk icons on my desktop?
[01:24] <Lunar_Lamp> i know one way
[01:25] <init_6> aloha!  Anyone in here us kernel 2.6.15 and an EVDO card?
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> do you want the mounted cd icons though?
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> if not - gconf-editor and there is an option in there
[01:25] <fwtest> Lunar_Lamp,  no i dont want anything on my desktop
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> im afraid i cant remember, and i dont have my *nix box to hand
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> (trying to fix my wireless card)
[01:25] <salah> which package do I need to install to get gtk+?
[01:26] <Lunar_Lamp> salah try searching for the package :-)
[01:26] <salah> nothing found :)
[01:26] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
[01:26] <Lunar_Lamp> iirc gtk+ is a weird one
[01:26] <void^> salah: libgtk2.0-0
[01:27] <flossgeek> just wondering if anyone has experienced a loss of sound after a hibernate, i have a thinkpad r50e
[01:27] <salah> void^, thanks
[01:28] <flossgeek> or would one know how to get rid of the hibernate button
[01:29] <fwtest> Lunar_Lamp, which option exactly should i search here?
[01:29] <v-mack> !amarok
[01:29] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4, and packages are available for Ubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[01:29] <maz> seeya guys
[01:29] <Lunar_Lamp> im afraid i dont know
[01:29] <xenex> how can i restart nautlius?
[01:30] <Lunar_Lamp> i've never had to sort out gtk issues
[01:30] <jd__> Are we in Ubuntu now
[01:30] <Kazukisan> Hey how do you create a folder that links to a folder do you have to use the mount comand for that ?
[01:30] <fidel> guys....what do you use for downloading files from p2p networks
[01:30] <nalioth> jd__: you have arrived
[01:31] <v-mack> !tell Kazukisan about symlinks
[01:31] <jd__> I am new to linux and IRC
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about symlinks
[01:31] <Nova> Hey guys
[01:31] <Kazukisan> v-mack: lol
[01:31] <v-mack> haha
[01:32] <v-mack> i am clearly fat fignered
[01:32] <fidel> .what do you use for downloading files from p2p networks
[01:32] <Nova> I have Ubuntu dapper, but am quite interested in switching to kde
[01:32] <Nova> can i do that through the prompt?
[01:32] <v-mack> dapper does not mean gnome, nova, its the latest ubuntu overall
[01:32] <Nathanael> KDE vs. Gnome - they both have their weaknesses
[01:32] <Nova> sorry
[01:32] <Kazukisan> v-mack can you have him tell me about them
[01:32] <v-mack> no sweat, just letting you know
[01:32] <Lunar_Lamp> Nova - i think its' just a case of "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop"
[01:32] <Nova> i great
[01:32] <Nova> thanks
[01:33] <Nathanael> or kde-core
[01:33] <fwtest> Lunar_Lamp, i found it, it is called volumes_visible in nautilus desktop ;)
[01:33] <Nathanael> for less "stuff"
[01:33] <fidel> .what do you use for downloading files from p2p networks
[01:33] <jrib> Nova: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <Nova> cheers lunar_lamp
[01:33] <v-mack> fidel, frostwire
[01:33] <Nathanael> frostwire
[01:33] <fidel> froswire cool
[01:33] <Nova> thanks jfrib
[01:33] <v-mack> hold on Kazukisan
[01:33] <fidel> is it with ubuntu?
[01:33] <Lunar_Lamp> jrib got the package name correct - i got it wrong :-)
[01:33] <Nathanael> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[01:33] <AlienX> hmm sun-java looks to be broken or something :(
[01:34] <nalioth> !frostwire > fidel
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostwire
[01:34] <Nathanael> It's a Limewire clone
[01:34] <Nathanael> Like - a mirror image
[01:34] <nalioth> yes, it used to be in the bot
[01:34] <KirikaPhoenix> anyone have experience with running dual monitors? Not through twinview
[01:35] <fwtest> next question; which programm do you use to controll wifi?
[01:35] <v-mack> frostwire is limewire, more or less, without limewire's weirdness
[01:35] <Lunar_Lamp> sorry about this - but i'd really appreciate if somene could take a look at my wireless issues: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202608
[01:35] <Cooner750_> no luck with ndiswrapper
[01:35] <Cooner750_> turned off WEP even to see
[01:35] <Nathanael> Builltin wireless support (6.06)
[01:35] <ompaul> v-mack, !ln there
[01:35] <ChakRa> guys looking for a mobo thats highly compatible with linux. If someone can let me know of a brand or a mobo itself would be awsome ~___~
[01:36] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, sorry but I missed what you all said, you are having trouble with wireless?
[01:36] <v-mack> !ln
[01:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[01:36] <hawkaloogie_> ChakRa, I haven't ever had a problem with SiS mobos
[01:36] <v-mack> !tell Kazukisan about ln
[01:36] <xenex> how can i restart nautlius?
[01:36] <Bassetts> does anyone use firftp here?
[01:36] <v-mack> thanks ompaul!
[01:36] <jrib> xenex: pkill nautilus
[01:37] <ChakRa> hawkaloogie_, thanks a lot ill look into those
[01:37] <xenex> jrib: that will restart nautilus?
[01:37] <jrib> xenex: it will kill it and it should restart itself
[01:37] <hawkaloogie_> ChakRa, although there is some sort of hardware compatibility thing for linux online
[01:37] <v-mack> jrib, why not killall
[01:37] <xenex> jrib: ok thanks
[01:37] <Cooner750_> Yes, ndiswrapper, got drivers installed, Hardware Present: Yes, wlan0 shows itself, um, used iwconfig to configure mode to managed, encryption off (to test, also off on AP) and still no luck connecting
[01:37] <jrib> v-mack: same thing
[01:37] <v-mack> thanks
[01:37] <hawkaloogie_> ChakRa, and to be honest, you'll probably have a harder time finding one that ISN'T compatible, what with standards and all
[01:38] <ChakRa> hawkaloogie_, thats what i search for like linuc compatible mobos
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> hi all !
[01:38] <ChakRa> hehehe very true
[01:38] <Nathanael> We were all n00bs once
[01:38] <Nathanael> Only arrogance causes one to forget
[01:38] <ChakRa> hawkaloogie_, i was checking out the Gigabit ones or may be nvidia ones
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> need help!
[01:38] <ChakRa> what do u think about those?
[01:38] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, I had problems too, then I just manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to reflect what I wanted, then restarted and it worked great
[01:38] <Nathanael> gtg
[01:38] <hawkaloogie_> nvidia makes motherboards now? gigabit is a motherboard?
[01:38] <Cooner750_> tried to do that :P
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> precompiled binary of gcc for dapper !
[01:38] <v-mack> hawkaloogie_, nvidia makes parts for motherboards
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> any idea where?
[01:39] <v-mack> chipsets and the like
[01:39] <hawkaloogie_> ah
[01:39] <nentis> anyone know how to remove the password from the gnome keyring?
[01:39] <riddlebox> Cooner750_,  ohhh hrmm on dapper?
[01:39] <v-mack> gigabit is the speed of the ethernet adapter
[01:39] <ChakRa> v-mack i thought they came with new sli mobos too completely eveyrthing from nvidia
[01:39] <Iron_Hawk> any help?
[01:39] <hawkaloogie_> eh, SiS is the brand i've been using for years, never a problem.
[01:39] <v-mack> i could be wrong, ChakRa
[01:39] <Cooner750_> yea
[01:39] <Cooner750_> no
[01:40] <Cooner750_> Breezy
[01:40] <Iron_Hawk> lol
[01:40] <Cooner750_> I am almost sure...
[01:40] <tarvid> just updated from breezy to dapper and apt-get update fails with E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[01:40] <ChakRa> v-mack i know but thats also a company which makes mobo
[01:40] <ChakRa> buit thanks hawkaloogie_ ill look into Sis ones
[01:41] <riddlebox> Cooner750_,  is ndiswrapper loaded?
[01:41] <v-mack> ChakRa, SiS is ALSO a chipset maker
[01:41] <tarvid> any way to re-init apt
[01:41] <ChakRa> ah ic
[01:41] <Cooner750_> Yes
[01:41] <v-mack> Chakra, the companies that actually build the darn things are different, the OEMs
[01:41] <Cooner750_> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, right?
[01:41] <ChakRa> i gottcha
[01:41] <xBONESstyle> Anyone know how to get Freeciv to play sounds?
[01:42] <v-mack> it doesn't matter, but forums are filled with fighting over which OEM is the best, and i see them all as mostly equivalent, the rest is marketing
[01:42] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, then do dmesg in a terminal and see what it says
[01:42] <v-mack> and NVidia chipsets lean towards gaming, while SiS focuses on cheaper stuff, mostly
[01:42] <ChakRa> yeah i guess should ask which chipset if the most compatibel. Really dont care about the OEM
[01:42] <ChakRa> ic
[01:42] <hawkaloogie_> that'll explain why i use SiS ;-)
[01:42] <ChakRa> hahahah
[01:42] <v-mack> lol
[01:43] <ChakRa> na i am more like making a server in debian
[01:43] <v-mack> I have a VIA board cause it was cheap, ubuntu works perfectly with it so i don't complain
[01:43] <ChakRa> awsome
[01:43] <hawkaloogie_> eh, not a hardcore gamer, not a hardcore performance guy, just normal desktop usage and non-essential serving
[01:43] <ChakRa> ~___~
[01:43] <v-mack> if i was buying some sort of gaming beast, i would go nvidia
[01:43] <Iron_Hawk> any idea for my compiler??
[01:43] <v-mack> but that would mean, no more ubuntu and such, and im quite tired of windows silliness
[01:44] <bulltitan> hey ;)
[01:44] <lufis> Hi. Is Ubuntu's version of Eye of Gnome different than Gnome's?
[01:44] <ChakRa> yeah i am all about linux windows prolly good to use photoshop
[01:44] <Cooner750_> http://www.whatsmyip.org/4242
[01:44] <hawkaloogie_> Iron_Hawk, there are FTP sites that have packages, and there are tools to extract binaries from those packages
[01:44] <Cooner750_> dmesg output
[01:44] <v-mack> lufis, it should be the same
[01:44] <bulltitan> is there any panel network applet for ubuntu like the one in xubuntu?
[01:44] <Iron_Hawk> ok becauese i am new.. can you give me a link?
[01:44] <lufis> v-mack: Well, I compiled the latest version and it was missing some of the features the Ubuntu version had.
[01:45] <hawkaloogie_> Iron_Hawk, google? "ubuntu packages ftp"
[01:45] <v-mack> lufis: are you looking for a photo album app or just a viewer
[01:45] <Iron_Hawk> ok thx
[01:45] <lufis> v-mack: Ideally, both
[01:45] <v-mack> lufis, it's all about f-stop
[01:45] <SurfnKid> cyas
[01:45] <jd__> I just installed a KDE desktop and now I am in Kubuntu
[01:45] <bulltitan> i'm trying to use the one that comes with ubuntu but it doesn't work
[01:45] <v-mack> or, f-spot
[01:45] <v-mack> lol
[01:46] <v-mack> lufis: http://f-spot.org/Main_Page
[01:46] <lufis> v-mack: Yeah, I like F-spot... but it's got some major UI issues, IMO. I don't know. Maybe I downloaded an older version?
[01:46] <v-mack> it's meant to be like iPhoto im guessing, i find it to be most choice
[01:46] <v-mack> lufis, i don't mind its UI really
[01:46] <ChakRa> well v-mack and hawkaloogie_ thanks for all your suggestions now time to hunt ~___~
[01:47] <hawkaloogie_> bonne chance
[01:47] <v-mack> Chakra: np, maybe you want to link at what yer looking at if you get the chance
[01:47] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, it seems to be working somewhat
[01:47] <lufis> v-mack: I don't know, it irks me that the Delete key doesn't *delete* a photo in f-spot
[01:47] <Cooner750_> Any idea what the prolem is?
[01:47] <Cooner750_> problem*
[01:48] <v-mack> lufis, there is a picasa port now for linux
[01:48] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, what card is it?
[01:48] <felicitas> hallo
[01:48] <Cooner750_> ZyXEL ZyAir G-302
[01:48] <lufis> v-mack: Eh, Wine-port. :P
[01:48] <v-mack> and by port i mean "highly configured wine"
[01:48] <Cooner750_> v2
[01:48] <v-mack> lol
[01:48] <felicitas> anybody still there?
[01:48] <lufis> V-mack: I guess I downloaded an older version of the source. I'll try again. Thanks!
[01:49] <v-mack> lufis, no problem, yer welcome, hope you find what yer after
[01:49] <felicitas> i will scream in a minute - the ibm-jre drives me mad it only works with konqueror not with firefox
[01:49] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, try this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125042.html
[01:50] <riddlebox> hope it helps
[01:50] <hawkaloogie_> anyone here use courier as an MTA? or should I use postfix?
[01:50] <tsume__> hawkaloogie_: postfix + dbmail > *
[01:50] <Iron_Hawk> what universe means beside packages?
[01:50] <riddlebox> Cooner750, did you see what I put in here?
[01:52] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, try this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125042.html
[01:52] <Cooner750_> looking at it
[01:52] <tarvid> help! i am getting an error on apt-get update
[01:52] <hawkaloogie_> tsume__, personal opinion or group consensus? easy to install? i've spent three hours fiddling with this courier install to get a 513 for every message i send to the smtpd
[01:52] <tarvid> E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[01:54] <green_earz> tarvid: are you using the command "  sudo apt-get update "
[01:55] <mikere> I just upgraded from breezy to dapper following the instructions on the FAQ.  While much seems to have gone well, none of my movie players appear to work.  Any ideas?  I tried reinstalling totem with no luck so far
[01:56] <v-mack> mikere, do they not play files, or do they not open
[01:56] <mikere> v-mack: a combination of both - totem dies with a cryptic x-window error, some others start but won't open movies
[01:57] <v-mack> hmmm
[01:57] <v-mack> mikere: i would start by reinstalling the restricted format codecs, seems like a good bet
[01:57] <v-mack> like these
[01:57] <v-mack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:57] <jrib> mikere: maybe you can pastebin the error as well
[01:57] <v-mack> if anyone else has an idea, please chime in
[01:58] <riddlebox> mikere, totem is not good in my opinion
[01:59] <Cooner750_> need a little help here
[01:59] <Cooner750_> Read topic, removed old drivers, now for the interfaces file
[01:59] <jrib> !helpme
[01:59] <riddlebox> Cooner750, backup the interfaces file before you do anything
[01:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:00] <psx1337> My coffee cup holder is broken
[02:00] <psx1337> On my pc
[02:01] <Cooner750_> Here is current Interfaces
[02:01] <Cooner750_> http://www.whatsmyip.org/4243
[02:01] <darky-kjd> hello all...
[02:01] <blackline> when i boot ubuntu i get an error that the PCMCIA drivers cant load.. Actually I dont think I have any pcmcia-device so I wonder how I tell ubuntu not to try loading it. Anyone?
[02:01] <Warbo> blackline: Have a look in /etc/init.d
[02:01] <darky-kjd> need help to fix ... i call it a bug.. but it might as well be my ..stupidity... :d
[02:01] <Cooner750_> need help with it
[02:02] <darky-kjd> i removed the "notification area" where all my tray icons apear.... (USING DAPPAR)
[02:02] <darky-kjd> dapper
[02:02] <riddlebox> Cooner750,  give me a minute
[02:02] <darky-kjd> ... it's 3:04 AM here... that's why so many typo's...
[02:02] <Warbo> darky-kjd: You can right-click in an empty bit of panel and add it again
[02:03] <darky-kjd> ok... i added the notification aeria back.. but my tray icons won't show at all
[02:03] <darky-kjd> :p
[02:03] <darky-kjd> been there don that ...
[02:03] <v-mack> how about restarting the panel
[02:03] <mikere> jrib: pastebin appears to be deadly slow right now - got any alternative to pastebin?
[02:03] <Warbo> darky-kjd: Have you tried restarting the programs (maybe they didn't realise you had a new notification area)?
[02:03] <jrib> mikere: which one are you using?  there is paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:04] <Warbo> "killall gnome-panel"
[02:04] <darky-kjd> i restarted the system... 2 times since .. dose that count ?
[02:04] <mikere> jrib: thanks, was using pastebin.com
[02:04] <Cooner750_> i see I am missing lo loopback for wlan0. Is that important?
[02:04] <v-mack> darkk-kjd, it should
[02:04] <riddlebox> can someone give me a pastebin site, pastebin.com is not working
[02:04] <v-mack> darky-kjd, it should
[02:04] <darky-kjd> but it dosnt... :D
[02:04] <Warbo> Does anyone know if the radeon driver supports composite extension? I would guess so, but it is relatively new so it might have the same issues with GLX that Nvidia had with theirs (not sure about fglrx)
[02:04] <v-mack> darky-kjd, i mean, it counts as restarting the panel
[02:04] <darky-kjd> all thou i apt-get -ed alltray .. that works fine
[02:05] <mikere> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16343
[02:05] <HLM> damn this flashplugin install is taking for ever:(
[02:05] <riddlebox> Cooner750,  mine looks like http://pastebin.ca/70277
[02:05] <darth_mal1> anyone ever seen "inaccessible_boot_device" from windows after installing dapper or have any idea how to fix it?
[02:05] <Warbo> HLM: I am apt-getting kubuntu-desktop (177MB of stuff to install)
[02:06] <Cooner750_> hmm
[02:06] <Cooner750_> Mine is DHCP, so what dont I need?
[02:06] <darky-kjd> but gaim .. edeskltes,  update notification .. wont show off.. (i am thinking .. maybee these icons got stuck with some coordinates out of the screen...)
[02:06] <Cooner750_> I dont need IP, gateway?
[02:06] <HLM> go for it Warbo
[02:06] <Warbo> darth_mal1: Was this after shrinking your Windows partition?
[02:06] <darky-kjd> could that be posible ?
[02:06] <riddlebox> Cooner750, iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[02:06] <riddlebox> then you dont need the rest
[02:06] <darth_mal1> Warbo: no, I installed windows to a 20gig partition (out of 160) then installed ubuntu onto the rest
[02:06] <Cooner750_> nothing else o.O
[02:06] <darth_mal1> I've never had any problems setting up the dual boot before
[02:07] <riddlebox> Cooner750, wireless-essid, and wireless-key of course you need
[02:07] <Cooner750_> what if WEP is not on?
[02:07] <Warbo> darth_mal1: Wow, that's weird. Ubuntu can't really do any damage to Windows then (well, it's not that weird if Windows has effed itself up)
[02:07] <Sjoerd-> Hello i'm trying to set up awstats, I am running a perl script to configure it now (awstats_configure.pl) when I tell it where to find my web server config file (/etc/apache2/apache2.conf) it just gives out: -bash: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied... How can I overcome this?
[02:07] <riddlebox> Cooner750, just put whatever in
[02:08] <Cooner750_> I'm so confused
[02:08] <darth_mal1> I never had any trouble setting it up with gentoo, last time I installed Breezy it took a little work, but that was windows' fault
[02:08] <darth_mal1> this time, I dunno
[02:08] <fidel> what type of files  is for ubuntu., rpm,deb or gz
[02:08] <Warbo> darky-kjd: You have added the right applet back on haven't you? Notification area? (sorry if you find that insulting :))
[02:08] <Cooner750_> I need Wireless AP, right
[02:08] <darky-kjd> darth_mal1: stupid question: is it posible that your partition table is messed up.. ... ?
[02:08] <Cooner750_> address
[02:08] <Cooner750_> MAC
[02:08] <darky-kjd> Yes WARBO
[02:08] <Cooner750_> can i set it to Auto?
[02:09] <Cooner750_> or enter it manually
[02:09] <darky-kjd> 4 of them...
[02:09] <Warbo> fidel: deb
[02:09] <darth_mal1> darky-kjd: I don't think so
[02:09] <darky-kjd> and i left only 1
[02:09] <Iam8up> is there any way to enable some sort of sshd while running on the ubutnu live cd (5.10)?
[02:09] <fidel> cool warbo
[02:09] <jrib> fidel: ubuntu debs (not all debs)
[02:09] <Cooner750_> riddlebox: do you have auto lo wlan0 in your file?
[02:09] <darth_mal1> I clean out the partition table, install windows, windows boots fine; install ubuntu, ubuntu starts fine but then windows doesn't
[02:09] <Warbo> fidel: ".tar.gz" or ".tzr.bz2" is often source code, which works on anything (with a little more work than a deb)
[02:09] <darky-kjd> darth_mal1: tryed to edit the boot.mnu (or how is it called ) manualy?
[02:09] <Iam8up> darth_mal1 - doesn't show up in grub, you mean?
[02:10] <darth_mal1> it shows up in grub
[02:10] <darth_mal1> and grub can find it
[02:10] <Mitario> hi everyone. How do I let my monitor run on 60Hz instead of 75 when I don't know the ranges
[02:10] <Pelo> evening folks,  anyone know how to change the interface language in open office 2.01 ?  or how to add a new one ?
[02:10] <darky-kjd> aaaaaa
[02:10] <Cooner750_> Mitariio
[02:10] <Cooner750_> Mitario: What brand/mode
[02:10] <Cooner750_> model*
[02:10] <Iam8up> darky-kjd - so what exactly is the problem...? you hit windows and it crashes upon booting?
[02:10] <darth_mal1> but windows gets part way through booting and I get a BSOD with the "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE" message
[02:10] <cng> howdie... is there a major diffrence between unbuntu / kunbuntu / xunbuntu ?
[02:10] <Iam8up> boot.ini problem i bet
[02:10] <Iam8up> cng - desktops
[02:10] <Mitario> Cooner750_ teletech
[02:10] <Pelo> Mitario  you can edit the xorg.conf  look for the values and edit carefully
[02:10] <jrib> mikere: does totem give you that error if you just start it by itself without asking it to open any movie?
[02:11] <mikere> jrib: yes
[02:11] <Mitario> Cooner750_ it's a tv/monitor 15" LCD comb
[02:11] <Iam8up> it's "ubuntu" there is a single n in the name
[02:11] <darky-kjd> lol had kinda same problem but .. cus i installed northon go back....    (lam8up i have notification area problems)
[02:11] <Warbo> cng: They all use the same package repositories, but you start off with different packages
[02:11] <Iam8up> my name begins with an i...
[02:11] <Cooner750_> Mitario: Refresh rate dosent matter on LCD, that's why the settings seem borked
[02:11] <Iam8up> i...eye....aye
[02:11] <Pelo> cng  ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde and xubuntu is very light
[02:11] <jrib> mikere: weird, have you tried reinstalling it?
[02:11] <Mitario> Cooner750_: ahh, so how do I let it run on 60 in stead of 75?
[02:11] <Iam8up> Pelo - xubuntu is fluxbox i believe
[02:11] <darky-kjd> v-mack ... any other ideas ????
[02:11] <Warbo> XFCE
[02:11] <Iam8up> Mitario - LCDs do not have a refresh rate in that respect
[02:12] <Mitario> Cooner750_: windows does it right the 1st time, now for ubuntu :)
[02:12] <Pelo> Mitario  you can edit the xorg.conf  look for the values and edit carefully
[02:12] <Warbo> (not fluxbox)
[02:12] <Pelo> evening folks,  anyone know how to change the interface language in open office 2.01 ?  or how to add a new one ?
[02:12] <Mitario> Pelo: tried, that, but don't know wich value, i've tried adding modelines, don't work
[02:12] <cng> but if you wanted a diffrent window manager you could install it like windowmaker or blackblox ?
[02:12] <Mitario> Pelo: and there isn't really a 'put your desired refreshrate' config value anyware ;)
[02:12] <Pelo> Mitario  hold on let me check
[02:12] <mikere> jrib: yep, that was my first suspicion as well.  Reinstalled but no joy.
[02:12] <Mitario> also, the gnome resolution applet only shows 75Hz
[02:12] <Warbo> cng: I am in Enlightenment right now
[02:12] <Mitario> Pelo: thanks
[02:12] <darky-kjd> or warbo.. any idea on how i could reconf tray icons ?
[02:12] <Warbo> cng: So yes it is possible
[02:13] <jeffz> hi, i want to compile a java program using gcc, I type gcc hello.java and I get the message gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'jc1': No such file or directory
[02:13] <jrib> mikere: is anything else throwing strange errors like that?
[02:13] <Cooner750_> Anyone? I need a copy of a whole working interfaces file
[02:13] <v-mack> darky-kjd... i can't say i can think of what to do for ya, im very sorry
[02:13] <Cooner750_> with wireless, DHCP
[02:13] <Cooner750_> preferably
[02:13] <Warbo> jeffz: Do you mean gcj?
[02:13] <mikere> jrib: so far other things look good.  Very impressed with dapper so far other than this one problem
[02:13] <jeffz> Warbo: ah, yes, I think that's what gcc uses, I'll check to see if its all installed, thanks.
[02:13] <blackline> Warbo - Ok, I tried to open it in gedit as root, but gedit says it cant be opened.
[02:14] <cng> Warbo: so if i wanted to go wit Enlightenment i would coose ubuntu instead of xubuntu ?
[02:14] <jrib> mikere: what version does 'apt-cache policy totem' report it to be?
[02:14] <v-mack> darky-kjd, have you just tried right cliking ont he panel and selecting "add notification area"
[02:14] <Cooner750_> Anyone?
[02:14] <Warbo> blackline: /etc/init.d is a directory. Look in it for a PCMCIA script (it is where bootup scripts are stored)
[02:15] <v-mack> darky-kjd, its down in "utilities"
[02:15] <mikere> jrib:   Installed: 1.4.1-0ubuntu4
[02:15] <Warbo> blackline: You can enable/disable bootup services that you find in /etc/init.d with the "update-rc.d" command
[02:15] <jrib> mikere: have you tried purging it and installing then?
[02:16] <darky-kjd> so other question:  i gess all icons have somewhere stored information like : there position .... where could it be ?
[02:16] <Warbo> Does anyone know if Composite works with the Free radeon driver?
[02:16] <fidel> FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb file  I get a message Archive type not supported
[02:16] <jrib> mikere: also, have you installed your video drivers?
[02:16] <Warbo> darky-kjd: They don't care where the notification area is
[02:16] <mikere> jrib: purge?  Not familiar with that concept yet.
[02:17] <Warbo> fidel: Are you using file-roller or gdebi?
[02:17] <dibblego> I am unable to run OpenOffice because of the problem described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1172599#post1172599 can anyone confirm or otherwise, that I am screwed?
[02:17] <mikere> jrib: using the xorg nv display driver
[02:17] <darky-kjd> v-mack.... i sad... now i say again: i added 4 notification area's ... but non of them shows icons... finaly i left only 1.. and if i right click on it .. select about it shows me that it is a notification area ...
[02:18] <fidel> I think is called file manager
[02:18] <darky-kjd> Warbo: i read that it hase more problems than with nvidia
[02:18] <Warbo> fidel: If you right click on the package do you see "Open with Gdebi" or something like that? If so, click it
[02:18] <darky-kjd> i am using composite right now.. so i think...
[02:18] <blackline> Warbo - So if i do "update-rc.d pcmcia remove" it wont start anymore?
[02:18] <fidel> archive manager
[02:18] <v-mack> darky-kjd, sry, im working on something and was a little distracted, i really do not what to tell you, perhaps you should try asking in a gnome board or mailinglist?
[02:19] <darky-kjd> blackline .... i have a cool link for you ...
[02:19] <Warbo> darky-kjd: In the latest nvidia drivers they have sorted it (couldn't used to use Composite and OpenGL at the same time) But I am very new to ATI cards
[02:19] <darky-kjd> a sec
[02:19] <blackline> darky-kjd cool
[02:19] <darky-kjd> Warbo: i know  i have nvidia and i am using both
[02:19] <fidel> open with archive manager it sais
[02:20] <Warbo> blackline: It's not quite as simple as that. It would be something like "sudo update-rc.d pcmcia 50 stop 1 . 50 stop 2 ." like that (as an example. Read the manual)
[02:20] <jrib> mikere: ok, I'm getting some hits on the forums with your error.  Type in 'gstreamer-properties' in a terminal and what is your video output plugin set to?
[02:20] <darky-kjd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[02:21] <Warbo> fidel: The archive manager will just extract what is in it, not actually install it. Are you on Breezy? (it doesn't have gdebi) If so you can do it most easily in a terminal
[02:21] <mikere> jrib: default video output set to autodetect
[02:21] <blackline> darky-kjd thanks
[02:21] <darky-kjd> i followed that link's guide and it hellped me gratly
[02:21] <jeffz> hum, I've installed gcj, but I still get a message from gcc when trying to compile my java program, gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'jc1': No such file or directory
[02:21] <fidel> what is the command ?
[02:21] <Cameron> hey everyone
[02:21] <RadiantFire> jeffz: using gcj?
[02:21] <salah> is there any posibilities to make the screen resolution virtually smaller?
[02:21] <Warbo> fidel: "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" (as long as you are in the same directory as it)
[02:21] <Cooner750_> No luck with wireless. *sigh*
[02:22] <fidel> cool
[02:22] <mikere> jrib: hitting the test button results in "Autodetect could not initialize supporting library"
[02:22] <Cameron> any1 need help with anuything
[02:22] <jeffz> RadiantFire: gcc helloworld.java, should be using gcj?
[02:22] <Cooner750_> I guess I'll have to stick to the old eth2 interface....
[02:22] <Cooner750_> or use windows..
[02:22] <jrib> mikere: ok, this seems like it may be plausible for you https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/35229 see if the workaround provided there works for you
[02:22] <darky-kjd> ok.. so returning to my.. problem... again :p ;p   so other question:  i gess all icons have somewhere stored information like : there position .... where could it be ?
[02:22] <Warbo> salah: What do you mean? You can press ctrl-alt-+ (on the NumPad) or use XRandR
[02:22] <RadiantFire> jeffz: try, javac
[02:22] <Cameron> who needs help with anything
[02:22] <Stork> hi, i'm having trouble compiling rainbowcrack on ubuntu.. could anyone help me out? the output from make is... http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4V9kj72.html
[02:22] <mikere> jrib: thanks, man, will have a go at it
[02:22] <darky-kjd> Cameron  II AMMM
[02:22] <Cameron> u r what
[02:22] <jeffz> RadiantFire: ah, that works, thanks
[02:22] <Cooner750_> yea I need help with wireless lol
[02:23] <darky-kjd> Cameron me-me  ME
[02:23] <salah> Warbo, like making the icons, window titles, file menus etc smaller
[02:23] <fidel> thanks warbo it worked
[02:23] <Cameron> what u need help with
[02:23] <jrib> mikere: the other one if that doesn't work is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/4229 and there are a few threads on the forums as well
[02:23] <darky-kjd>  i gess all icons have somewhere stored information like : there position .... where could it be ?
[02:23] <darky-kjd> i am missing my tray icons ....
[02:23] <Cooner750_> specifically /etc/network/interfaces and how to edit it
[02:23] <darky-kjd> they gone by-by
[02:23] <jrib> mikere: installing the nvidia drivers might help you too, since totem works here fine with the nvidia drivers
[02:23] <Cooner750_> to work with wlan0 DHCP
[02:23] <Cameron> darky what u need help with
[02:24] <darky-kjd> well long story... can we go priv.. ?
[02:24] <Warbo> salah: Making them smaller would mean using a larger resolution. You can "pretend" to use a larger resolution by using XRANDR (although I will have to find a GNOME application to configure it for you)
[02:24] <Cameron> quick
[02:24] <darky-kjd> oppa.. i am using gaim...
[02:24] <Cameron> yep
[02:24] <Cameron> wait
[02:24] <darky-kjd> is the im working ?
[02:24] <Cameron> darky  join #cameron
[02:24] <Cameron> thats my chanel
[02:25] <darky-kjd> hmm dificult gime a sec
[02:25] <Cameron> darky r u gunna join #cameron
[02:25] <Stork> hi, i'm having trouble compiling rainbowcrack on ubuntu.. could anyone help me out? the output from make is... http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4V9kj72.html
[02:26] <Warbo> salah: This looks promising http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=618
[02:26] <mikere> jrib: heh, the first suggestion (renaming the totem_logo.png) fixed it
[02:26] <jrib> mikere: some of the forum posts say they were successful by just resizing it in gimp (if you care about see the logo)
[02:27] <jrib> s/see/seeing
[02:27] <Warbo> salah: I just looked in Synaptic and I think it is actually already in Ubuntu
[02:27] <Stork> hi, i'm having trouble compiling rainbowcrack on ubuntu.. could anyone help me out? the output from make is... http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4V9kj72.html
[02:27] <salah> Warbo, does this change the resolution fysically?
[02:28] <Warbo> salah: It can change the actual resolution, or pretend to using xrandr (what it calls "changing the size")
[02:30] <Mitario> Pelo: great, got it :)
[02:31] <Pelo> Mitario  great
[02:31] <Pelo> now if someont can tell me where to get language packs for open office I would apprciate it
[02:34] <Warbo> Pelo: "sudo apt-get install language-support-XX" Where XX is a country code for your language
[02:35] <Pelo> thank Warbo
[02:38] <twitch101> is there a java runtime enviroment for firefox? i need it to play runescape
[02:38] <jrib> ubotu: tell twitch101 about java
[02:38] <DemonHeadx> hello, i am really new to linux, and i was wondering if someone can help me sept by step on how to install ndiswrapper
[02:38] <DemonHeadx> !java
[02:38] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[02:39] <DemonHeadx> hello, i am really new to linux, and i was wondering if someone can help me sept by step on how to install ndiswrapper
[02:39] <v-mack> !tell DemonHeadX about ndiswrapper
[02:40] <twitch101> could someone give me a link to the multiverse
[02:40] <sivanicon> whats a good FTP server with sql authentication?
[02:40] <DemonHeadx> v-mack: i checked the site and everything and tried to follow the step by step rules, but its not working
[02:40] <coz_> hello all
[02:40] <DemonHeadx> i really don't see why people like linux if you have to do everything through the command line >.<
[02:40] <v-mack> DemonHeadX, i don't need ndiswrapper so i don't really know, sry
[02:41] <coz_> drag and drop support ahs suddenly stopped ... any ideas??
[02:41] <mikere> DemonHeadx: you don't have to - but you find you can do things faster with itin the end.
[02:41] <vanden> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 (Linux newb) and most recent TB on my laptop. Yesterday,my laptop froze coming out a reboot and I had to power down. Rebooted, and rebooted again with forced fsck. Now when launching TB, my folders never get populated and my cpu usage jumps to 100%. TB never responds, and I have to kill the processes. Any suggestions?
[02:42] <DemonHeadx> !ndiswrapper
[02:42] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[02:42] <DemonHeadx> dam thoese docs! no help for me at all
[02:42] <Gullstad> !ra0
[02:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about ra0
[02:42] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:43] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=6288955
[02:43] <darky-kjd> ok... so i needed a restart
[02:44] <Alethes> is there a cli option for evolution to simply focus the existing instance rather than launch a new one?
[02:44] <DemonHeadx> thanks gullstad
[02:44] <DemonHeadx> but i havn't been able to fix thie problem for about a week
[02:44] <DemonHeadx> screw ubuntu
[02:44] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: Thats why I'm here :)
[02:44] <Gullstad> lol
[02:44] <Gullstad> I did go trough the same
[02:45] <Gullstad> whit a linksys card
[02:45] <riddlebox> Cooner750,  try a reboot to see if it works after that and check dmesg to once it is up
[02:45] <matgates> What process handles multimedia keys?
[02:45] <DemonHeadx> oh so its linksys cards that it has the problem with the most?
[02:45] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: i dont know.
[02:45] <riddlebox> my wireless linksys card works fine
[02:45] <Gullstad> But it works in the end
[02:45] <Gullstad> Mine too, now.
[02:46] <DemonHeadx> well this card is very common, it should have no problems just plug n play
[02:46] <DemonHeadx> i mean windows was plug n play...
[02:46] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, what card?
[02:46] <darky-kjd> yo Cameron... sry bout that .. i needed a restart
[02:46] <Gullstad> plug'n'pay
[02:46] <DemonHeadx> linksys  WPC54GS v1.1
[02:46] <Stork> hi, can someone help me with make? the make file is: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zgyhQE73.html, and i need to make all the thingies (?) compile with /usr/local/ssl/include in the path.. how would i do that?
[02:46] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, have you configured ndiswrapper to work with it?
[02:46] <Gullstad> Stork: apt-get install make
[02:47] <DemonHeadx> well i really don't know how to install ndiswrapper.
[02:47] <Gullstad> :P
[02:47] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, are you using dapper?
[02:47] <Stork> Gullstad, what the fuck?
[02:47] <DemonHeadx> i tired what the guides said, but make install doesn't do anything
[02:47] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox: yes i am
[02:47] <darky-kjd> ok.... anybody around  who could help me with my tray icon problem ????
[02:48] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, it is a pcmcia card right?
[02:48] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox: yes sir.
[02:48] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=WPC54GS+v1.1
[02:48] <xBONESstyle> I need a hug.
[02:48] <xBONESstyle>  :D
[02:48] <DemonHeadx> Gullstad: i haven't seen that post yet..
[02:48] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, please eject the card and insert it again, then look at dmesg for me and put it in a pastebin
[02:48] <riddlebox> so I can see it
[02:49] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox: ok sure, whats dmesg and also i am on a seprate computer
[02:49] <matgates> Is there some process in dapper which traps keypresses like XF86AudioNext?
[02:50] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, Applications--->Accessories--->Terminal, then type dmesg
[02:50] <mejobloggs> hey, I used the package manager to install bzflag, but it doesn't work. When I open bzflag, it sort of just 'blinks' at me, then closes again
[02:51] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox
[02:51] <DemonHeadx> think you can do the terminal client thing?
[02:52] <TTT_Travis> does anyone in here subscribe to linux magazine?
[02:53] <darky-kjd> need help with notification area bug .. in ubuntu dapper
[02:53] <sagarp> wehn i try to install nvidia-settings, it wants to remove nvidia-glx...and vice versa..is this normal behavior?
[02:53] <nathanael> details, Darky
[02:53] <Stork> make is shit
[02:54] <DShepherd> sagarp: are u following the wiki for install nvidia driver?
[02:54] <Stork> WHAT THE FUCK
[02:54] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks
[02:54] <nathanael> hello
[02:54] <nathanael> er..warrior
[02:54] <sagarp> dshepherd, i'm not sure...i just installed nvidia-glx, i've been using it since dapper flight 3 or so and it's always been fine
[02:55] <DShepherd> hmmm sagarp
[02:55] <sagarp> dshepherd, strangely, even without the nvidia-settings package, i still have an nvidia-settings command
[02:55] <CodeWarrior_> anybody knows about how to use a Lucent WinModem (ltmodem) on Dapper AMD64 version ??
[02:55] <darky-kjd> nathanael -> so i removed my notification area while trying to customize the top panel.... and after that I added on ... but the tray icons do not show up ...
[02:55] <DShepherd> sagarp:want me to point you to the wiki.. it might help
[02:55] <Stork> WHY THE FUCK WONT FUCKING RAINBOWCRACK COMPILE
[02:55] <darky-kjd> >i added one<
[02:55] <sagarp> dshepherd, i'm looking at it now :P
[02:55] <Stork> this is a fucking joke
[02:56] <Stork> fuck off
[02:56] <darky-kjd> Stork... angry ? .....
[02:56] <Stork> yes i'm fucking angry
[02:56] <dibblego> temper tanties
[02:56] <darky-kjd> :p
[02:56] <darky-kjd> :p
[02:56] <DShepherd> sagarp: well I usally purge stuff and then reinstall them.. when things give me probs. it may help you out
[02:56] <nathanael> darky- did you re-add the notification area?
[02:56] <darky-kjd> been there done that... past it...
[02:56] <psycode> Is there a way to switch between active displays (similiar to ALT+Fn) using a command?
[02:56] <Stork> fucking linux
[02:56] <darky-kjd> yes nathanael i did
[02:56] <cwillu> stork, watch your language
[02:57] <jrib> ubotu: tell Stork about language
[02:57] <nathanael> Which tray icons do you want?
[02:57] <cwillu> stork, whats the error you're getting?
[02:57] <sagarp> dshepherd, yes i tried that as well..it's weird because nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx both recommend each other..yet they remove each other as well
[02:57] <darky-kjd> Stork you probably missing some dependecies
[02:57] <DShepherd> psycode: control+alt+Fn command?
[02:57] <DShepherd> sagarp: ok
[02:57] <psycode> DShepherd, yes i need a command line.
[02:57] <nathanael> They are all available in the add to panel list...
[02:57] <darky-kjd> nathanel: all .... like update notification, gaim ....
[02:57] <DShepherd> control+Alt+F1 - 4
[02:58] <darky-kjd> sry my mistake.. i want to see the tray icon of gaim while it is runing...
[02:58] <psycode> DShepherd, thats not a command i can enter in the shell
[02:58] <fwtest> i have installed the latest ubuntu, but i cant see any tray icon, is there any ?
[02:58] <DShepherd> psycode: huh? you are at the command line..?
[02:58] <webman> where would i find scripts for xchat
[02:58] <darky-kjd> right now i am using gaim.. and i can't see any icon
[02:59] <nathanael> hmm
[02:59] <darky-kjd> question
[02:59] <dibblego> install the System Tray Icon plugin
[02:59] <DShepherd> webman: the website maybe
[02:59] <Hurga> psycode: command or key combo?
[02:59] <psycode> DShepherd, yes, i need something that does exactly what ALT+CTRL+Fn does from the command line.
[02:59] <psycode> Hurga, command.
[02:59] <darky-kjd> hmmmm i probably removed something while changing gaim sckin.... is it posible ?
[02:59] <DShepherd> psycode: that works from the command line.. you dont have to type a command.
[02:59] <fwtest> dibblego, before installing any plugin, where is the tray icon lacated?
[03:00] <Hurga> psycode: interesting, that's a new one :)
[03:00] <dibblego> fwtest, for me, in the top right corner
[03:00] <darky-kjd> .... there is a way to find out...
[03:00] <psycode> DShepherd, and yet i want a command. I'm running remote.
[03:00] <cwillu> psycode:  you're trying to script it?
[03:00] <psycode> cwillu, remote
[03:00] <webman> thanks shep most have overlooked it, thanks again
[03:00] <darky-kjd> well yes..
[03:00] <darky-kjd> hmmmm .. now what did i remove ?????
[03:00] <DShepherd> webman: yw
[03:00] <fwtest> there where the date, sound, power button located?
[03:00] <Awesome-o2000> how can I configure my box to use USB for ethernet? modprobe usbnet?
[03:00] <Awesome-o2000> I just want to plug a USB cable into my cable modem with the thing
[03:01] <fwtest> ahh
[03:01] <fwtest> ok
[03:01] <vanden> (bump) Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 (Linux newb) and most recent TB on my laptop. Yesterday,my laptop froze coming out a reboot and I had to power down. Rebooted, and rebooted again with forced fsck. Now when launching TB, my folders never get populated and my cpu usage jumps to 100%. TB never responds, and I have to kill the processes. Any suggestions?
[03:01] <mejobloggs> when trying to run bzflag, I get these errors:
[03:01] <p_masho> HOw do I fire off a screenshot? problem I got is I'm taking screenshots of my application and want to take a snap of screen when a menu is selected. pressing "Print Screen" doth not work
[03:01] <mejobloggs> mellow_man: X error of failed request: BadValue (inteer parameter out of range for operation)
[03:01] <mejobloggs> Major opcode of failed request: 134 (XGree86-VidModeExtension)
[03:02] <mejobloggs> Minor opcode of failed request: 10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
[03:02] <mejobloggs> can anyone help ?
[03:02] <webman> takes some time
[03:02] <Warbo> p_masho: gnome-screenshot --delay X (X is in seconds). Been using that just :)
[03:03] <Mitario> hi, anyone else having problems with gossip?
[03:04] <konfuzed> hey what can I use to open this .vsd visio file that someone sent me
[03:04] <nathanael> darky-kjd: I have your answer: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q32
[03:04] <Hurga> Where can I adjust system bell pitch in Ubuntu?
[03:04] <sababa> hi, does anyone has managed to get mozilla-mplayer to work with wmv's?
[03:04] <mejobloggs> how can I unmount a hard drive?
[03:04] <webman> what is the best for a newbie , bash, c++ python or where to start??
[03:05] <nathanael> yes
[03:05] <nathanael> in Firefox
[03:05] <sababa> they work for me if I play them directly from mplayer, but they dont work with the plugin
[03:05] <gnomefreak> does Kazehakase use the gecko engine?
[03:05] <Warbo> webman: Bash is easiest (it is just a terminal basically) but then I think Python
[03:05] <nathanael> webman: bash
[03:05] <zenit> webman: python is a great and readable language
[03:05] <liquidten2> webman:  Bash by far.  It's also the most useful for a linux user
[03:05] <nathanael> I was using it today...
[03:05] <ardchoille> mejobloggs: sudo umount /dev/device
[03:05] <nathanael> I am using it right now!!! (IRSSI)
[03:05] <webman> thanks all
[03:05] <nathanael> np
[03:06] <liquidten2> gnomefreak: yes it does.
[03:06] <sagarp> what's the difference between nvidia-glx and the nvidia driver offered by linux-restricted-modules?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> liquidten2: ty i figured it might
[03:06] <ardchoille> how do I list the current running services?
[03:06] <Warbo> OK, I'm gonna restart X and see if I have composite
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: ps aux
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: or top
[03:07] <darky-kjd> nathanael.... : well the problem was .. i think ... that while changing theme in gaim... the icons where removed.... so .. let's se ... i need to restart gaim
[03:07] <Stork> hi. i'm having trouble compiling something.. this paste includes my makefile and the output from make.. please help someone.. http://rafb.net/paste/results/p4OyM645.html
[03:07] <theBishop> what package can play h.264 mpeg-4 video?
[03:07] <DShepherd> is the fglrx driver the same as the raedon driver
[03:07] <DShepherd> ?
[03:08] <nathanael> Has anyone {heard of/gotten to work} the (Windows-based)GoToAssist client in Ubuntu?
[03:08] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: I need to list services, not running apps
[03:08] <nathanael> Using WINE, perhaps?
[03:08] <iiiears> theBishop:  VLC is one
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: oh sorry
[03:08] <mejobloggs> what should I use to format/partition a hdd in ubuntu ?
[03:08] <konfuzed> Anyone work with Charts and Diagrams like visio. I need to open a network diagram that was saved in visio
[03:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> camone know how to make the glxgears show frames/ps?
[03:08] <nathanael> mkfs
[03:08] <theBishop> iiiears, vlc doesn't play anything that totem can't already play, its still dependent on codecs installed
[03:09] <Stork> PLEASE SOMEONE
[03:09] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: that im not sure but i thought there was a menu item for sevices in gnome it might give you running ones
[03:09] <iiiears> mejobloggs: gparted - there is a bootable iso. nice replacement for partition magic.
[03:09] <Hurga> Stork: install libssl-dev and libssl0.9.8
[03:09] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: there is in gnome, but this person isn't running gnome, wants a cl tool
[03:09] <mejobloggs> iiiears: what is gparted like compared to qtparted?
[03:09] <darky-kjd> lol
[03:09] <DShepherd> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: tried running it from the terminal
[03:09] <DShepherd> ?
[03:09] <nathanael> or QTparted :p
[03:09] <iiiears> mejobloggs: It's about the same.
[03:09] <gnomefreak> not sure ardchoille sorry
[03:10] <nathanael> darky: Did that work?
[03:10] <theBishop> iiiears, what codec do i need to play h.264 in VLC?
[03:10] <Hurga> ardchoille: netstat -tanp | grep LISTEN
[03:10] <webman> just wanted to say great ubuntu 6.06 , great program. windows has died and yes i want to help people out of their troubles :)
[03:10] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: That's ok, I think sysv-rc-conf will work fine
[03:10] <Stork> Hurga, ..you are my god.
[03:10] <darky-kjd> nathanael... i restarted ... and still nothing .. but ... i unselected the plugin and put it back in.... so it seems that a tray icon is put in the notification aeria.. but it's 1x1 pixel ... :D
[03:10] <nathanael> haha
[03:11] <nathanael> squint I guess
[03:11] <darky-kjd> so i copied back from the backup config .. still noting... hmmmm
[03:11] <DShepherd> do the the ubuntu cds/iso available for download have the latest updates?
[03:11] <cwillu> DShepherd: I don't think so
[03:11] <v-mack> dshepard: not the offical ones
[03:11] <Talisker> What the pkak is wrong with the apt repositories this time?
[03:11] <iiiears> theBishop http://www.xvid.org/
[03:11] <cwillu> Talisker: what's the problem?
[03:12] <nathanael> dark-kjd: You should always be able to totally reconstruct either of the 2 default gnome panels
[03:12] <DShepherd> cwillu, v-mack will there be cds though?
[03:12] <webman> no you need to update after dl
[03:12] <nathanael> *darkY
[03:12] <theBishop> iiiears, xvid != h.264 ???
[03:12] <Talisker> Well, a few weeks ago some of the servers fell, so you phrased a sed command that updated the sources
[03:12] <Nova> hey guys
[03:12] <Talisker> which worked fine
[03:12] <Talisker> but now apt-get update gives me errors again
[03:12] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: no the latest ones were released on june 1st
[03:12] <darky-kjd> nathanael... take a look at this page... :http://www.duggmirror.com/linux_unix/best_guide_to_make_Ubuntu_look_like_Mac_OS_X/
[03:12] <cwillu> Talisker: can you pastebin the errors?
[03:12] <Talisker> Wait, I'll paste them somewhere
[03:12] <cwillu> heh, read my mind
[03:12] <nathanael> I have
[03:12] <darky-kjd> there is the part about gaim costumization
[03:12] <Nova> I just swiched to kubuntu, using the command promps
[03:13] <nathanael> I used that page on my laptop
[03:13] <nathanael> Looks great eh?
[03:13] <darky-kjd> yeah..... and ?
[03:13] <Nova> probs it, although i have kde programs
[03:13] <nathanael> and?
[03:13] <p_masho> where is "gome-screenshot" ?
[03:13] <darky-kjd> YEAH it dose... i modified some things... wate i'll make a screen shot
[03:13] <Nova> i still have gnome appearence
[03:13] <gnomefreak> p_masho: dapper?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> p_masho: in dapper its in applications>accessories
[03:14] <p_masho> yes
[03:14] <mejobloggs> ok, i installed QTParted, but when I try and run it from the menu it says 'no device found, maybe you are not using root user'
[03:14] <mejobloggs> how do i fix that?
[03:14] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: yeah I know. but dapper is going to be supported for 5 years. Will new cds/iso with the various updates be available for download sometime within this 5 year period?
[03:14] <v-mack> this may be OT, but why make ubuntu "dress up" like OS X?  is there an appeal to that i don't get?
[03:14] <nathanael> All she shows you how to do is change the Gnome theme, icons, and wallpaper..and modify the panels slightly
[03:14] <cwillu> mejobloggs: make sure you're launching it as gksudo <app name>
[03:14] <v-mack> mejobbloggs, run "sudo gparted"
[03:14] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: that just means they will have updates uploaded to servers
[03:14] <nathanael> Anyone here purchased the support? IS it any good?
[03:14] <Nova> K, gonna start again
[03:14] <p_masho> I want to take a "screenshot" when a menu ois selected in my application.. whoe do I fire it ?
[03:14] <mejobloggs> noo. I want it to run from the 'start menu'
[03:14] <mejobloggs> i dont want to use the terminal just to launch QTParted, that is silly
[03:14] <cwillu> mejobloggs: use the menu editor and add skgudo in before the command line on that entry
[03:15] <cwillu> gksudo I mean
[03:15] <gnomefreak> p_masho: click on applications than click on accessories than click on take screenshot
[03:15] <mejobloggs> ah cool
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> DShepherd: i am running it from terminal
[03:15] <nathanael> oh...wait - this *IS* support - lol
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> DShepherd: it doesnt show any fps
[03:15] <Hurga> v-mack: It's like glueing non-functional spoilers to cars. People seem to like it.
[03:15] <KrazyKat> hey, has anyone here had problems installing/runing ubuntu fromt he live cd?
[03:15] <Talisker> This damn pastebin takes forever
[03:15] <mejobloggs> uh... where do i find the menu editor?
[03:15] <mejobloggs> krazykyeah, i did
[03:15] <mejobloggs> uup
[03:15] <gnomefreak> mejobloggs: in dapper applications>accessorires
[03:15] <yggdrasil> can somone help me out my application and locations places have dissapeared from the top left gnome bar....
[03:15] <v-mack> hurga, thanks for reassuring my sanity
[03:15] <Talisker> You guys need to learn how to configure your system without using the graphic interfaces
[03:15] <gnomefreak> mejobloggs: its called alacarte
[03:16] <mejobloggs> KrazyKat: yeah, i had problems with the automatic partitioner
[03:16] <yggdrasil> as well as the system.... but the bar itself is still there
[03:16] <Nova> Heya guys, I just changed from gnome to KDE using the terminal, now, i rebooted, and strup shows the kubuntu logo, and the login screen is kubuntu, but... when i have logged in, the desktop retains the appearence of gnome. Does anyone know whats up?
[03:16] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: so if I download or order a cd 2 years from now... I have to update it after installing it?
[03:16] <nathanael> Did you choose KDE for your default session?
[03:16] <neotard> Nova:  before logging in, choose the KDE session
[03:16] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: or can you get an update cd separate? (download and order that is)
[03:16] <nathanael> You have to click "options" at login
[03:16] <cwillu> DShepherd: hell, if you install today, you have to update, and about the same amount of downloads
[03:17] <Nova> neotard: how do i do that
[03:17] <nathanael> Click options
[03:17] <v-mack> dshepard: are you nervous about being somewhere where you can not d/l the updates?
[03:17] <neotard> Nova:  there's an "options" in the low-left corner
[03:17] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: yes but i have *heard* of another dapper cd will be released that is just heard not fact
[03:17] <Talisker> http://talk.cwillu.com/Talisker#preview
[03:17] <neotard> Nova:  it says "select a session" or something like that
[03:17] <cwillu> DShepherd: there's trickery that can be done to download updates, and I'm sure images will be available, from 3rd parties if not ubuntu.com
[03:18] <KrazyKat> when i click on the start thing after it goes to the load screen it just stops ona black screen does anyone know how to fix that?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: no new packages just updated ones so if xorg gets updated 3 times in 2 years you only have to do it once
[03:18] <cwillu> and here's where my server crashes from the load :p
[03:18] <nathanael> Get the CD - it's faster, and more phun!
[03:18] <Nova> ok
[03:18] <Nova> thanks
[03:18] <Nova> I'll have a look
[03:18] <nathanael> You go NOVA!
[03:18] <KrazyKat> when i click on the start thing after it goes to the load screen it just stops ona black screen
[03:18] <Nova> lol
[03:18] <KrazyKat> does any one know hot to fix that?
[03:18] <Nova> Nova, out!
[03:18] <KrazyKat> how
[03:18] <Talisker> cwillu, http://talk.cwillu.com/Talisker#preview
[03:18] <cwillu> Talisker: I saw
[03:19] <cwillu> Talisker: can you check if you have an apt.conf file?
[03:19] <Talisker> And...?
[03:19] <cwillu> Talisker: and if so, check if there's a line mentioning 'proxy' anywhere
[03:19] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: hmm.. i guess it gives me nightmares..when I had to reinstall and update windows Xp
[03:19] <Talisker> /etc/apt/???
[03:19] <cwillu> Talisker: and if so, delete it (edit via sudo gedit apt.conf), and rerun apt-get update
[03:19] <ardchoille> Ubuntu doesn't use udev?
[03:19] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: dont want to go thru that again..with no OS/distro
[03:20] <Talisker> I don't like gedit
[03:20] <DShepherd> Talisker: i do
[03:20] <cwillu> Talisker: whichever :)
[03:20] <Talisker> I like pico
[03:20] <nathanael> I wonder if paid suppoort is allowed to SSH into your machine? (RHEL isn't)....
[03:20] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: winxp only lets you do certain ones than reboot and do more ubuntu does all  ;)
[03:20] <cwillu> Talisker: you did a text mode or server install, did you?
[03:20] <kevin> Talisker, then use VI or something lol
[03:20] <v-mack> dshepard: there is trickery where you can "slipstream" wx cds with all the updates... im sure the same thing exists with ubuntu somewhere
[03:20] <v-mack> XP cds
[03:20] <Kazukisan> So how do i link a folder to a folder with Symlinks ?
[03:20] <Talisker> cwillu, actually I did a standard install
[03:21] <Talisker> Which was a bad idea
[03:21] <Talisker> Anyway, where should I find apt.conf?
[03:21] <KrazyKat> when i click on the start thing after it goes to the load screen it just stops ona black screen does anyone know how to fix that?
[03:21] <Hurga> Kazukisan: ln -s sourcefolder destfolder
[03:21] <ardchoille> Kazukisan: ln -s /path/source /path/target
[03:21] <Kazukisan> thanks
[03:21] <cwillu> Talisker: okay, anyway, I think it's a line like 'Acquire::::Proxy "false";'  try deleting it, save and rerun apt-get update
[03:21] <Talisker> err...
[03:21] <nathanael> Text-based mail(SMTP) client: Anyone?
[03:21] <Talisker> For the third time.... where is the apt.conf file located?
[03:22] <DShepherd> Talisker: locate apt.conf
[03:22] <cwillu> Talisker: 'locate apt.conf' :p
[03:22] <DShepherd> Talisker: what are you trying to do?
[03:22] <nathanael> /etc/apt/apt.conf
[03:22] <dipnlik_> nathanael: pine? mutt?
[03:22] <nathanael> shanks!
[03:22] <Talisker> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf
[03:22] <darky-kjd> nathanael: chck it out:http://192.168.0.1/Screenshot.png
[03:22] <cwillu> DShepherd: I'm just troubleshooting an apt-get problem
[03:22] <Talisker> Doesn't sound very relevant
[03:22] <darky-kjd> stupid me...
[03:23] <darky-kjd> http://kjd.dnttm.ro/Screenshot.png
[03:23] <DShepherd> cwillu: ok
[03:23] <cwillu> Talisker: for somebody who recommended that people learn how to use bashm you're not being very cooperative :p
[03:23] <darky-kjd> need some fule...
[03:23] <nathanael> lol
[03:23] <cwillu> Talisker: /etc/apt/apt.conf I believe
[03:23] <nathanael> We have no VPN darky!
[03:23] <Talisker> cwillu, if there was such a file
[03:24] <DShepherd> Talisker: there is a file..
[03:24] <Talisker> I would'nt point out the one located in /usr/share, now would I
[03:24] <Talisker> ?
[03:24] <cwillu> Talisker: okay, let me mod my sources.list and see if I can dupe it
[03:24] <Talisker> Well, appearntly there isn't, which makes this problem a tad more misterious
[03:24] <mejobloggs> im trying to use QTParted on a spare hdd, but it keeps saying it can't unmound hdb1 and hdb2. How can I unmount them?
[03:24] <lonegeek> Whats the deal with audio not working in flash?
[03:24] <stoned> good evening
[03:24] <v-mack> sudo umount /dev/hdb
[03:25] <DShepherd> ok..I off to get AIGLX to run on my ati card..
[03:25] <DShepherd> lata
[03:25] <kevin> audio works with flash on here (laptop)
[03:25] <lonegeek> mine did...and no longer does...
[03:25] <mrfishhat> i have audio working also
[03:25] <Blissex> lonegeek: Flash uses OSS emulation, that does not support sw sharing
[03:25] <nathanael> darky: That's a lot of panels dude.
[03:25] <varsendaggr> hey how do i add and edit launchers to my "start menu"
[03:25] <mrfishhat> my problem with flash is the sync issue
[03:25] <darky-kjd> i know nathanael... but copy/pasted it from my browser.... and wasn't realizing .. just after i pasted it
[03:25] <darky-kjd> i know...
[03:25] <lonegeek> Blissex, nothing else is open that is using audio though
[03:25] <Blissex> lonegeek: unless you use one of several bad workaround...
[03:25] <kevin> lonegeek, do you have gaim running?
[03:25] <v-mack> !Alacarte
[03:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about Alacarte
[03:26] <darky-kjd> the left one is on auto hide
[03:26] <Blissex> lonegeek: something else will be using audio, like a sound daemon
[03:26] <nathanael> ah
[03:26] <lonegeek> kevin, yes.... but that was never an issue before.....
[03:26] <mejobloggs> v-mack: that says they are already mounted
[03:26] <mada> kevin: what kind of laptop do you have and are you happy with it? i am in the market for a new laptop and it will without doubt run ubuntu ... just wondering what would be a good one
[03:26] <nathanael> hmmm
[03:26] <lonegeek> let me reboot....
[03:26] <gnomefreak> v-mack: alacarte is the menu editor used in dapper
[03:26] <kevin> lonegeek, I have to shut gaim off for it to work sometimes
[03:26] <nathanael> So the top right is where your going for?
[03:26] <darky-kjd> and all this whit fading and everithing
[03:26] <nathanael> Compiz?
[03:27] <v-mack> gnomefreak: apologies
[03:27] <stoned> I installed ubuntu dapper stable on my laptop, it is very slow.  My laptop used to be very responsive on debian, but with ubutnu I have noticed that it takes a very long time, much longer than debian, to start an application, or boot the system, sometimes apps hang for no reason.  This is a brand new install of it too.  I have also noticed a MAJOR slowdown of network activity.  When tranferring files from laptop to desktop, it is very slow.
[03:27] <stoned>   from other machines on the network it is ok.  by slow I mean it goes no more than 300-400kb/s and its a 10mbps network, LAN.  any ideas on what I can do to speed things up a bit
[03:27] <darky-kjd> yeah .. you noticed a edesklets icon in the top
[03:27] <kevin> mada, I am using a compaq presario v2555ca
[03:27] <cwillu> Talisker: does it bomb at the same place when you do a sudo apt-get update?
[03:27] <darky-kjd> before that icon .. is .. it really is .. the gaim icon ...
[03:27] <darky-kjd> but can't be seen
[03:27] <kevin> it is okay with the exception of broadcom wireless
[03:27] <Talisker> cwillu, I only do it as sudo
[03:27] <darky-kjd> now i will atempt to find the file
[03:27] <mada> kevin: ouch, yeah .. i don't do broadcom anything anymore
[03:27] <nathanael> Far out...
[03:27] <nathanael> And you re-installed the plugin?
[03:28] <cwillu> Talisker: no, I mean apt-get update it again, and does it crash at the same point each time you run it
[03:28] <color> can somone help me out my application and locations places have dissapeared from the top left gnome bar.... as well as my system pulldown
[03:28] <kevin> mada, I do have it working at home but not on the road
[03:28] <stoned> if anyone can help me out, trying to figure out why my system is so slow, I am running kubuntu btw
[03:28] <yggdrasil> can somone help me out my application and locations places have dissapeared from the top left gnome bar.... as well as my system pulldown
[03:28] <yggdrasil> jeesus
[03:28] <nathanael> haha!
[03:28] <yggdrasil> stupid irssi
[03:28] <nathanael> stoned: One Word: KDE
[03:28] <nathanael> lol
[03:28] <nathanael> lol
[03:28] <nathanael> lol
[03:28] <stoned> nathanael, umm, at least 6x as fast on debian sid
[03:28] <DBO> !enter
[03:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:28] <Talisker> seems pretty much identical
[03:29] <DBO> yggdrasil, right click on the panel, select add to panel
[03:29] <gnomefreak> stoned: please join #kubuntu if noone in here can help you
[03:29] <DBO> its in there
[03:29] <stoned> gnomefreak, same thing with gnome
[03:29] <darky-kjd> nathanael.. reinstalled .... no... did not...  how.... hmmmm i'll lose my max/os skins.. i gess
[03:29] <mada> stoned: i am a debian to ubtuntu switcher and i haven't noticed any speed change ... have you done the new updates for the newer kernel?
[03:29] <ardchoille> How do you use the enter key as punctuation? I didn't think that was possible
[03:29] <stoned> would you prefer I rephrase myself to gnome than kde
[03:29] <stoned> pretend I have gnome, and not kde, and I  have the same problems
[03:29] <mejobloggs> can someone help me partition my spare hdd please? I am trying to use qtparted, but it says that hdb1 and hdb2 can't be unmounted. When I do sudo umount /dev/hdb, it says they are already unmounted :(
[03:29] <yggdrasil> bah screw it
[03:29] <yggdrasil> thanks
[03:29] <yggdrasil> for n
[03:29] <yggdrasil> nothing
[03:30] <yggdrasil> bbl
[03:30] <gnomefreak> stoned: no but can you give me more info on what is slow what your doing when its slow?
[03:30] <VikJES> Should I use the "fglrx" ati binary driver with a radeon 7500 mobility?
[03:30] <Talisker> Thanks for your help and all, but Ubuntu failed me for the last time, I'm going back to the resources
[03:30] <ChronusDark> Has anyone tested the Dell XPS 1210 with dapper?
[03:30] <Talisker> night
[03:30] <cwillu> Talisker: it looks like there's a proxy causing some difficulty
[03:30] <mada> stoned: also, debian sid runs faster than almost anything you will find ... i don't know why, but it does ... sid runs faster than testing does
[03:30] <stoned> gnomefreak, well pretty much everything.  Apps take very long to start, system/UI is not as responsive
[03:30] <Hurga> dma on ?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> stoned: what version of ubuntu?
[03:31] <stoned> gnome or kde, it doesn't matter which
[03:31] <stoned> dapper latest updated and upgraded
[03:31] <stoned> today
[03:31] <cwillu> stoned: what vid card?
[03:31] <Hurga> stoned: check the dma settings on your HD device.
[03:31] <stoned> and trust me this is not a percieved slowness
[03:31] <gnomefreak> stoned: can you run the command ps aux and paste the output to pastebin
[03:31] <mada> cwillu: vid card shouldn't matter about system performance
[03:31] <darky-kjd> yggdrasil lol
[03:31] <mada> stoned: what architecture?
[03:31] <stoned> gnomefreak, what should I looking for?
[03:31] <TVFAR> Hi all. New Ubuntu user her
[03:32] <ardchoille> TVFAR: hi
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: something using alot of memory
[03:32] <kevin> mada, it did on mine if I was using wine or trying to run a 3D prog
[03:32] <stoned> mada, dell inspiron 512ram 1.8ghz 32mb onboard inetel
[03:32] <darky-kjd> yggdrasil... are you admin from the lineage server ???
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: also a good thing to know how much of a swap do you have?
[03:32] <stoned> gnomefreak, I can check top or htop
[03:32] <stoned> ok one sec
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: yes if you wish
[03:32] <yggdrasil> darky no ... ?
[03:32] <mada> kevin: yes, but his desktop functions slowly
[03:32] <kevin> ohhhhhhhhh sorry mada
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: none of what you put there is arch
[03:32] <yggdrasil> i just moved my home directory and remade one empy
[03:33] <cwillu> stoned: check hdparm /dev/hda , making sure dma is on;  grep /var/log/xorg.log mem and make sure it's assigning video memory (onboard vid card you said?)
[03:33] <mada> stoned: ok .. so its an intel box .... what processor? 1.8GHz could be a few things
[03:33] <darky-kjd> used to waste time ... with that game.. on the yggdrasil server
[03:33] <yggdrasil> where does thunderbird store mail and settingg in /usr/home/.thunderbird ?
[03:33] <nathanael> stoned: Kernel matches your proc?
[03:33] <stoned> 1gb swap
[03:33] <stoned> nathanael, yes
[03:33] <ardchoille> yggdrasil: yes
[03:33] <stoned> I've done all I can, running the2.6.16-1-686
[03:33] <mada> yggdrasil: it should
[03:34] <gnomefreak> stoned: thats not dappers kernel
[03:34] <yggdrasil> gnome has been making me mad lately
[03:34] <tripppy> how do i autoset files received from bluetooth as readable by "others" ?
[03:34] <nathanael> This is a desktop?
[03:34] <mada> nathanael: if the kernel didn't match the proc arch, it wouldn't boot
[03:34] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil: look in ~/.thunderbird  or ~/.mozilla/thunderbird
[03:34] <stoned> gnomefreak, I have 99% swap space free
[03:34] <stoned> from 1gb that is
[03:35] <nathansnook> have a question about shell scripts
[03:35] <nathanael> mada - Ubuntu ships with a default kernel, which is not always specific to the proc
[03:35] <Hurga> gnome is better than I remembered, but I keep having some funny font problems in Firefox...
[03:35] <ardchoille> yggdrasil: look in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[03:35] <gnomefreak> stoned: than im not sure
[03:35] <stoned> gnomefreak, I don't see anything outrageous on the process list
[03:35] <mada> nathanael: yes, but it is specific to the processor architecture
[03:35] <nathanael> *sigh*
[03:35] <stoned> only thing huge is 22mb ram by limewire
[03:35] <cwillu> nathanael: yes, but there's not going to be a huge difference between i386 and i686 performance
[03:35] <kevin> stoned, do you have firestarter installed?
[03:35] <nathanael> Well, just adding my bit
[03:35] <mada> stoned: what processor do you have?
[03:36] <yggdrasil> thanks guys
[03:36] <stoned> model name      : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 1.70GHz
[03:36] <mada> stoned: rgr ... there went that theory
[03:36] <mejobloggs> Can someone help me with this error please? http://pastebin.com/728282
[03:36] <mada> mejobloggs: i'll take a look at it
[03:36] <stoned> Its not a bad machine by any standards
[03:36] <stoned> I just don't get it man
[03:36] <stoned> Its mind boggling and its frankly ticking me off
[03:37] <nathanael> And top shows nothing unusual?
[03:37] <stoned> wish I knew where to look to find it out
[03:37] <kevin> stoned, do you have firestarter installed?
[03:37] <stoned> if you prefer I can post it onpastebin
[03:37] <stoned> hold on
[03:37] <stoned> kevin, no I do not
[03:37] <siriusnova> AIGLX + Compiz = Sexy Ubuntu Desktop :D
[03:37] <kevin> k, there went that idea
[03:38] <iiiears> !compiz
[03:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:38] <nathanael> stoned: Here are some more ideas: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8308
[03:39] <iiiears> siriusnova: dl.tv former the screensavers host has a nice video of !compiz on open suse today.
[03:39] <cwillu> stoned, what does "grep AGP /var/log/Xorg.0.log" say?
[03:39] <siriusnova> iiiears - cool
[03:39] <stoned> guys
[03:39] <stoned> http://pastebin.ca/70317
[03:39] <stoned> ps auxf output
[03:39] <Usunny> hello fellow strangers, you guys think this thing'ie would make a good "ubuntu-pc" http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1087&l1=1&l2=3&l3=0
[03:40] <stoned> cwillu, I don't use the gfx on this laptop
[03:40] <nathanael> stoned: according to google, you are not alone
[03:40] <stoned> cwillu, the kde session is exported to desktop Xserver
[03:40] <Warbo> Well composite works in radeon driver, but I had to get a newer version of E16 than Ubuntu has
[03:40] <stoned> cwillu, my laptop's screen is shattered and the keys are broken
[03:40] <stoned> mostly
[03:40] <stoned> :)
[03:40] <nathanael> haha
[03:40] <nathanael> hmm
[03:40] <tripppy> is there a mini ubuntu? IE: smaller customized install disc?
[03:41] <nathanael> the plot thickens
[03:41] <ScreaminIke> i made a bunch of files... with non fat32 compatible names....
[03:41] <cwillu> stoned: so it's a terminal server basically?
[03:41] <Warbo> ScreaminIke: Let me guess, colons?
[03:41] <nathanael> Not network-related, stoned?
[03:41] <stoned> cwillu, no, the laptop has full kubutnu/ubuntu/kde/gnome installed on it.  I just run gdm/kdm as i need to and then I run X -query laptop on my desktop
[03:41] <DonL> Hi
[03:42] <iiiears> trippy - the server install and for a time there was a second group developing ubuntulite for breezybadger
[03:42] <stoned> dm's are configured to export the session over X
[03:42] <Usunny> i guess not ;<
[03:42] <siriusnova> gstreamer is the biggest pile of goo
[03:42] <cwillu> stoned: have you used a similar config (i.e., full remote gnome) before?
[03:42] <stoned> eveyrthing was fine on breezy too
[03:42] <cwillu> ah, okay
[03:42] <stoned> just dapper is slow for me
[03:42] <stoned> breezy was REALLY breezy
[03:42] <iiiears> trippy - xbuntu is very light on resources.
[03:42] <siriusnova> stoned - prelink
[03:42] <Warbo> siriusnova: Yes, but it's not as bad as Xine
[03:43] <siriusnova> Warbo - gstreamer is worse then xine
[03:43] <siriusnova> at least xine does what its supposed to do
[03:43] <stoned> cwillu, yes, i've used debian sid on my laptop for years over the network X
[03:43] <siriusnova> :/
[03:43] <Warbo> siriusnova: No way. Gstreamer is practically the same as having datatypes
[03:43] <siriusnova> gstreamer is supposed to be this all encompasing media framework, if it ever worked
[03:43] <stoned> worked so fast it was unbelievealbe, NO latency at all
[03:43] <Hurga> Where can I adjust system bell pitch in Ubuntu? Or rather: Why does it get reset overnight if I change it with xset?
[03:43] <stoned> screens would never flicker either
[03:43] <stoned> now with ubuntu dapper im confused
[03:43] <siriusnova> Warbo - gstreamer has never worked for me, it always plays videos slow and crummy
[03:43] <Warbo> siriusnova: Have you noticed the "0.10"?
[03:43] <darky-kjd> nathanael.... on that page ... there was a how to uninstall the gaim theme..... welll it gave me back my icons.... (that uninstall... no i can REST in PEACE)
[03:44] <stoned> and it isn't a percieved slowness wither, firefox usually takes no more than 12-15 sec to load up before, now it takes well over 1 minute
[03:44] <darky-kjd> i am going to sleep
[03:44] <siriusnova> Warbo - yeah i know which is why it shouldn't be in any distro till it can play a half decent divx decently
[03:44] <darky-kjd> GN to all ....
[03:44] <RussianVodka> Hey! Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to recognize IEEE1394 (firewire)?
[03:44] <cwillu> stoned, did you check hdparm yet?
[03:44] <darky-kjd> it's 4:46 here.... :p
[03:44] <iiiears> !firewire
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about firewire
[03:44] <Hurga> cwillu: I asked that only two times before
[03:44] <iiiears> ugh
[03:44] <nathanael> dark: congrats!
[03:44] <cwillu> heh, k
[03:44] <nathanael> *darkY
[03:44] <stoned> cwillu, like I said I can't find any obvious problems
[03:44] <cwillu> so, dma is on then?  :p
[03:45] <RussianVodka> Ok, well, thanks anyways.
[03:45] <RussianVodka> Bye.
[03:45] <darky-kjd> LOL I JUST CANT REST IT
[03:45] <stoned> yes
[03:45] <stoned> always
[03:45] <nathanael> stoned: As I google, this issue, it seems dapper is slower in general
[03:45] <stoned> I was afraid of that
[03:45] <nathanael> yeah
[03:45] <varsendaggr> hey how do you play quake?
[03:45] <stoned> I can't even do a reinstall to anything else
[03:45] <Hurga> stoned: I would suggest to try an older kernel...
[03:45] <stoned> I think I'll debootstrap sid again
[03:45] <KrazyKat> hey, i read on the forums that you cant use NTFS formatted drives, is that tru?
[03:45] <KrazyKat> true?
[03:45] <nathanael> But is it painfully slow?
[03:45] <Warbo> nathanael: It has more features, but those it shares with Breezy are usually more efficient (as is the case with most FLOSS)
[03:45] <LjL> !ntfs
[03:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:46] <stoned> thanks for the help
[03:46] <stoned> I doubt ubuntu is for me
[03:46] <DonL> varsendaggr: I've got quake 3 happening here on dapper
[03:46] <Hurga> For me, using gnome, dapper is faster. Noticeably faster.
[03:46] <Usunny> KrazyKat ye can't write to an nfts (jej \o/ )
[03:46] <darky-kjd> for me: major bug: while using xcompmgr ... the shutdown window is not visible... (the one that should dim the hole background ) maybe someone could report this bug.. or giv me a fix ... :D
[03:46] <Jisao> Has there been a solution to the problem of >no eth0< after a reboot from windows in 64 bit Ubuntu other than a cold reboot?
[03:46] <Usunny> ntfs*
[03:46] <nathanael> KraztKat: You can mount them Read-Only
[03:47] <bernat> bye, desde espaa
[03:47] <nathanael> stoned: I doubt Ubuntu is NOT for you!
[03:47] <cwillu> KrazyKat: it's possible to get write access, but it's not simple to set up, and either requires nabbing windows dll's, or having incomplete write access
[03:47] <darky-kjd> nathanael .... what say you ????
[03:47] <darky-kjd> :p
[03:48] <nathanael> what say I?
[03:48] <cwillu> KrazyKat: not recommended
[03:48] <Hurga> nathanael: he's gone
[03:48] <darky-kjd> to the above ......
[03:48] <KrazyKat> but it says i can get read access, so does that mean i can copy everything, and then reformat to fat32?
[03:48] <darky-kjd> to this: for me: major bug: while using xcompmgr ... the shutdown window is not visible... (the one that should dim the hole background ) maybe someone could report this bug.. or giv me a fix ... :D
[03:48] <loststar4545> best cd burning application?
[03:48] <nathanael> ah
[03:48] <darky-kjd> did it happen to you tooo
[03:48] <darky-kjd> ?
[03:48] <Low-> anyone know how to Auto Auth on xchat-gnome? and has some time to explain please
[03:48] <cwillu> KrazyKat: kinda, although converting from ntfs to fat32 probably won't be bootable without some dos hacking
[03:48] <ardchoille> loststar4545: gnomebaker, graveman, or kde
[03:48] <DonL> loststar4545: k3b for me
[03:48] <ardchoille> oops, k3b
[03:49] <Hurga> cdrecord
[03:49] <iiiears> RussianVodka - Firewire link  http://www.linux1394.org/
[03:49] <nathanael> darky: Sorry, I don't use xcomp
[03:49] <Hurga> iiiears: he's gone
[03:49] <cwillu> KrazyKat: you can definately copy the files over though
[03:49] <nathanael> or them fancy xgl graphics
[03:49] <nathanael> I just don't have the heart-ware for it!
[03:50] <loststar4545> how do i make certain  files folders or shortcuts appear on only workspace 1 2 etc
[03:50] <neotard> unencrypting aac still isn't possible under linux is it?
[03:50] <ardchoille> nathanael: lol
[03:50] <darky-kjd> hmmm.... and i don't have time to try fix this .... (need to learn more about ubuntu source code)
[03:50] <mejobloggs> mada, could you figure that error out?
[03:50] <nathanael> Hurga?
[03:50] <HiP_P> quick question is there anyway of get a DE220 working on ubuntu?
[03:50] <Hurga> nalioth: Where can I adjust system bell pitch in Ubuntu? Or rather: Why does it get reset overnight if I change it with xset?
[03:50] <Hurga> nathanael:
[03:50] <darky-kjd> i installed vista as welll....
[03:51] <darky-kjd> bestial... if it worked ...
[03:51] <nathanael> Sorry Hurga, no idea
[03:51] <nathanael> haha - bestial
[03:51] <nathanael> Windows..grrrr
[03:51] <mejobloggs> mmm windows, i like it
[03:51] <Hurga> nathanael: ok, next: Issues with Firefox and fonts? Like, URLs wrapping on click, font-dependent
[03:51] <darky-kjd> yeah it's a romanian saying... - means greate
[03:52] <darky-kjd> but .. did you know .. that for the instalation it requires 30 GB free space on the hdd
[03:52] <darky-kjd> ?
[03:52] <cwillu> Hurga: have a url?
[03:52] <darky-kjd> min sys req: 512 MB ram
[03:52] <nathanael> Hurga: The only font issues I've run into with FF have to do with my Res. - sorry again
[03:52] <darky-kjd> and P4 2.4 GH
[03:53] <nathanael> Well, that about rules me out
[03:53] <Hurga> cwillu: one sec
[03:53] <darky-kjd> OOOKKKK now i really fck'n need to go to bed... but i am not tiered.... aldow i must go to work in a few hours....
[03:53] <james296> How come since I set Ubuntu to read my actual graphics card for screen resolutions instead of the VESA graphics card or whatever it is, now my login screen isnt all centered and when I move the mouse any position the whole login screen follows it
[03:53] <darky-kjd> i have no tier's that is
[03:53] <darky-kjd> :p
[03:53] <james296> know what Im talkin about?
[03:54] <nathanael> Well, fellows, it's been grand once again, but all text-based things must come to an end...!echo off
[03:54] <HiP_P> sorry bits out there
[03:54] <yoshiznit123> james, did you set your resolution higher than your monitor's resolution?
[03:54] <james296> no
[03:54] <HiP_P> *quick question is there anyway of get a D-Link DE220 working on ubuntu?
[03:55] <HiP_P> thats what i ment to type
[03:55] <TVFAR> I have a question: when I try running "glxgears", it gives the following error:  <<Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual>>. My card is SiS 760 which does not support OpenGL. Is there a way to enable OpenGL software emulation or something that OpenGL programs would run and not crash?
[03:55] <mathieu> i am trying to kill some processes but kill -9 is not working any suggestions
[03:55] <mathieu>  ?
[03:55] <DonL> HiP_P: is that a router?
[03:55] <HiP_P> network card
[03:55] <james296> 1024X768
[03:55] <james296> 75htz
[03:55] <OMGLAZERS> Can anyone tell me the command in terminal to move up a level? From say user/folder/place to user/folder ?
[03:55] <DonL> HiP_P: Did you google this?
[03:56] <Usunny> cd ..
[03:56] <siriusnova> OMGGLAZERS " cd .."
[03:56] <siriusnova> damnit beaten
[03:56] <siriusnova> :P
[03:56] <Usunny> *the pwn song*
[03:56] <HiP_P> yup
[03:56] <james296> so, any help?
[03:56] <Usunny> *dies*
[03:56] <james296> how can I change the resolution of the logon screen?
[03:56] <HiP_P> tried all i found
[03:56] <Usunny> thats pretty much all know about linux tho :>
[03:56] <james296> and, how can I stretch it on the screen?
[03:56] <cwillu> mathieu pkill or kill?
[03:56] <OMGLAZERS> siriusnova: I mean more like a 'director up' command.. I can't seem to CD a level BACK
[03:56] <Warbo> james296: It defaults to the highest available (so change that)
[03:57] <varsendaggr> how do i get oldshcool quake on my computer
[03:57] <mejobloggs> please can i have help with this? http://pastebin.com/728282
[03:57] <mathieu> cwillu: kill
[03:57] <james296> how do I change the resolution of the logon screen though?
[03:57] <cwillu> mathieu, i.e., using a pid?
[03:57] <Blissex> varsendaggr: there is Quake for Ubuntu.
[03:57] <HiP_P> changing the cmos and all that
[03:57] <mathieu> cwillu: yes
[03:57] <Blissex> varsendaggr: 'apt-cache search quake'
[03:57] <cwillu> mathieu: are they showing up as defunct or zombie?
[03:57] <DonL> Blissex: That's the copy of Quake I have.
[03:58] <Warbo> james296: Say you have 1280x1024 ans 1024x768 in your xorg.conf, it will use 1280x1024, so if you disable that resolution it will use 1024x768 (for example)
[03:58] <mathieu> cwillu: no
[03:58] <iamelite> I was wondering if anyone here is good at Video game optimization in ubuntu. Perhaps could help me learn a little
[03:58] <DonL> Blissex: Actually, I bought Quake 3 for Linux a few years ago.
[03:58] <Blissex> DonL: I did that too...
[03:58] <siriusnova> DonL - you want fuhquake
[03:58] <DonL> Blissex: Did you get the metal container?
[03:58] <siriusnova> DonL - its quake + nice updated graphics
[03:59] <Blissex> DonL: Can't rember...
[03:59] <Warbo> Doomsday is good (for Doom 1&2 and Heretic and Hexen)
[03:59] <Usunny> good all you barebone experts are all awake! awsome!
[03:59] <siriusnova> lol
[03:59] <Warbo> But I haven't found Dapper packages of it (breezy ones don;t work)
[03:59] <siriusnova> im not awake
[03:59] <siriusnova> im really sleeping
[03:59] <DonL> It occupies a shelf of honour as being the only Linux game I've ever purchased
[03:59] <Usunny> :s
[03:59] <mejobloggs> bzflag
[03:59] <mejobloggs> is better than quake
[04:00] <siriusnova> yeah bzflag is fun
[04:00] <iamelite> I am attempting to Shift my CPU power to my Game (World of warcraft) but i dont know what process or how to do it effectivly. With the goal of improving proformance.(framerate, sound)
[04:00] <Usunny> looking for som rewievs on a Pundit AH1 ... NO one seems to have one tho :s
[04:00] <siriusnova> iamelite "man nice"
[04:00] <DonL> Anybody play with Cube?
[04:00] <iamelite> i know the windows method... doesnt help me here i know.
[04:00] <Warbo> I have bought Gish and Moho. Moho is great (an animation package) and so is Gish, but it never actually runs :(
[04:00] <Usunny> ah crap im tired
[04:00] <mejobloggs> except i cant get bzflag to run
[04:00] <mejobloggs> I get this error when I try and run bzflag http://pastebin.com/728282
[04:00] <siriusnova> DonL - there is a new Cube thing called Saurbraten or something
[04:00] <siriusnova> i was playing it today
[04:00] <siriusnova> deathmatch was insane hehe
[04:00] <Warbo> I managed to win a level on Trigger earlier :)
[04:01] <Usunny> http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1087&l1=1&l2=3&l3=0  guide me here will ya
[04:01] <mejobloggs> i want bzflaaag, please help me get it to work
[04:01] <DonL> siriusnova: wow. I'll try it. Just download it? Or is it in the repositories?
[04:01] <siriusnova> mejebloggs - gimme a sec to see
[04:01] <siriusnova> DonL - just download it
[04:01] <siriusnova> dont need to install it
[04:01] <siriusnova> just unzip and start
[04:01] <siriusnova> mejebloggs - gimme a sec
[04:02] <DonL> Unzip?
[04:02] <siriusnova> pastebin is being slow today
[04:02] <iamelite> siriusnova I know that much. however i do not know which processes to Shift. If it is necessary to boost the emulation matrix. or the program itself.
[04:02] <siriusnova> iamelite - dunno, im not an expert on that kind of stuff
[04:02] <mejobloggs> i wish ubuntu had the latest version of bzflag
[04:03] <iamelite> ATM i am on a P3 733 MHZ 700MB ram(SD 133) Radeon 9600xt (OC/Fan)
[04:03] <ScreaminIk1> how do i give someone ssh access to my machine?
[04:03] <siriusnova> whats up with pastebin its  being sloow
[04:03] <Usunny> erm you make an account
[04:03] <Usunny> "user" i think its called now adays
[04:03] <varsendaggr> siriusnova, how do i get fuhquake
[04:03] <siriusnova> megobloggs - what's your video card?
[04:04] <iamelite> Ok, to start with does anyone know how to enable a (Hardware cursor acceleration) within -Opengl Wine.
[04:04] <ScreaminIk1> ...
[04:04] <ScreaminIk1> he gets rejected
[04:04] <wastrel> yay
[04:04] <mejobloggs> siriusnova: geforce 4 ti 4200
[04:04] <ScreaminIk1> it's just like... "rejection"
[04:04] <mooreand13213> everyone, im having some display trouble in ubuntu
[04:04] <Warbo> iamelite: Hardware cursors are black and white aren't they?
[04:04] <siriusnova> varsendaggr - its not in the repositories afaik - i think you have to download it and set it up following the instructions on the fuhquake webpage
[04:04] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  can he ping your machine?
[04:04] <mooreand13213> it works under safe graphics mode, but not under normal mode after install
[04:04] <ScreaminIk1> yea
[04:04] <siriusnova> mejobloggs - are you using the nvidia drivers?
[04:04] <ScreaminIk1> but the port doesn't seem to be open
[04:04] <mooreand13213> any1 have a clue as to y?
[04:04] <varsendaggr> Sir_Brizz, i can follow directions
[04:04] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  can you ssh localhost and login as him?
[04:04] <varsendaggr> is it multiplayer?
[04:05] <wastrel> ssh -l <his userid> localhost
[04:05] <iamelite> Warbo If theres a hardware cursor error (Texture) Id rather have the texture error then an impossible mouse
[04:05] <mejobloggs> siriusnova: no idea, i just installed ubuntu, i thought everything would isntall automaticall
[04:05] <siriusnova> mejobloggs - open a terminal
[04:05] <siriusnova> and type this:
[04:05] <siriusnova> glxinfo | grep dri
[04:05] <ScreaminIk1> no
[04:05] <mooreand13213> can anyone help me
[04:05] <siriusnova> and tell me if it says something like Direct Rendering Enabled or something
[04:05] <mooreand13213> ?
[04:05] <HiP_P> so was that no?
[04:05] <Warbo> iamelite: Well you seem to know far more about it than me, it's just that I thought the reason GNOME and other desktops use software cursors is because hardware ones look like crap (Windows anyone?)
[04:06] <wastrel> glxinfo | grep render
[04:06] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  so when he tries to connect, is it an auth issue or he can't even connect?
[04:07] <siriusnova> !nvidia
[04:07] <mooreand13213> anyone have any reason as to why ubuntu would work under safe graphics mode, and not after install? all i get is a bunch of random colored squares when i try to run ubuntu, and i cant do anything
[04:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <slew> is it possible to add a w32 partition to an established ubuntu system? [without having to reinstall ubunutu?] 
[04:07] <ScreaminIk1> no connect
[04:07] <siriusnova> mejobloggs read that
[04:07] <siriusnova> !nvidia
[04:07] <iamelite> Hardware cursors are meerly 3d"FX" Hardware processed User interface. It helps for lagless... ness. in games expecially. IE: Quake (any), Unreal(any) a hardware cursor helps your aim.
[04:07] <siriusnova> this
[04:07] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  do you connect through a router?  is there a firewall on your computer or the router?  do you have NAT running on the router?
[04:07] <DonL> wastrel: does he know what the bar is? I think I never used it in Windows, and maybe that's a new thing
[04:08] <ScreaminIk1> it's a switch. no firmware....
[04:08] <mooreand13213> can someone help me plz? id greatly appreciate it
[04:08] <Warbo> Has anyone found ATI cards run slowly when trying to process translucent/blurry things? I have an ATI which should be twice as fast as my Nvidia but the Nvidia renders blurs easily
[04:08] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  so your machine has a valid routable IP?
[04:08] <siriusnova> mooreand13213 - whats your video card?
[04:08] <ScreaminIk1> ...
[04:08] <mooreand13213> its probably something minor, but im completely new to linux
[04:08] <ScreaminIk1> ... he can ping it
[04:08] <mejobloggs> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:08] <mooreand13213> nvidia geforce 6800
[04:09] <iamelite> Warbo i have a 9600xt. as well as a GFFX 5200, i havent had a chance to check it out.
[04:09] <siriusnova> moore - are you using the nvidia drivers?
[04:09] <siriusnova> !nvidia
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <mooreand13213> i would assume
[04:09] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  well ping is potentially your outside address, if you're doing nat & port forwarding it wouldn't mean he was talking to the ssh host :] 
[04:09] <mooreand13213> as long as they are automatically installed
[04:09] <siriusnova> mooreand13213 - the yare not
[04:09] <siriusnova> are
[04:10] <tronica> what port does ssh operate on
[04:10] <siriusnova> nvidia drivers are not installed by default
[04:10] <ScreaminIk1> yes
[04:10] <ScreaminIk1> ip is valid
[04:10] <iamelite> Whats the apt code for ATI drivers. (radeon)
[04:10] <mooreand13213> how do i install them if i cant get in though?
[04:10] <Warbo> 3D models run OK, but some screensavers and demos I have run like crap, and I've just turned on Composite to find that translucent windows slow everything doen (so I am just using shadows, which are acceptable)
[04:10] <iamelite> i just reinstalled ubuntu... Because i think i messed up wine... and still learning :D
[04:10] <siriusnova> mooreand1323 and whoever needs to install nvidia drivers read this:
[04:10] <siriusnova> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:10] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  so can you ssh to localhost, or ssh to this system from other hosts?
[04:11] <pvd2006> whats the wikki site to install nvidia binaries on dapper?
[04:11] <siriusnova> set it up through that
[04:11] <mooreand13213> thank u very much
[04:11] <siriusnova> np
[04:11] <Warbo> iamelite: There are three drivers for ATI. "ati" and "radeon" are in Ubuntu, "fglrx" isn't by default
[04:11] <mooreand13213> i figured it was easy solution
[04:11] <DonL> siriusnova: thanks. that's what people need
[04:11] <ardchoille> !tell pvd2006 about nvidia
[04:11] <Usunny> its on the howto pange
[04:11] <siriusnova> DonL - yeah
[04:11] <Usunny> page*
[04:11] <iamelite> FGLRX i need for games tho.
[04:11] <HiP_P> okey cheers nite
[04:11] <ScreaminIk1> swarm@serverIke:~/myMusic/AlFranken$ ssh 127.0.0.1
[04:11] <ScreaminIk1> ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection refused
[04:11] <siriusnova> Nvidia drivers dont get installed by default, Neither do the drivers for the newer ATI cards
[04:12] <mooreand13213> do i do this in safe graphics mode since i cant get in normally?
[04:12] <siriusnova> moore - yes
[04:12] <Warbo> iamelite: With your card you do. The Wiki page on !ati tells you how (I have an older card so radeon gives me 3D)
[04:12] <mooreand13213> alright, ty
[04:12] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  ok well - do you have an ssh server installed & running ;] 
[04:12] <ScreaminIk1> ...
[04:12] <ScreaminIk1> how do i know?
[04:13] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  apt-cache policy openssh-server
[04:13] <iamelite> !ati
[04:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:13] <slew> is it possible to add a w32 partition to an established ubuntu system? [without having to reinstall ubunutu?] 
[04:14] <Warbo> I might change that Wiki page if it doesn't say anything about "radeon"
[04:14] <siriusnova> slew - what do you mean, a new partition from a whole ubuntu system?
[04:14] <Warbo> AAA! I can't right click!
[04:14] <__mikem> I said it before and Ill say it again: How to use an ati video card, 1 mount on woden post, 2 load shotgun, 3 fire at will, 4 buy an nvidia
[04:14] <wastrel> ScreaminIk1:  if it's installed, try nmap localhost or telnet localhost 22  to see if it's running.
[04:14] <Warbo> The menu disappears straight away
[04:14] <siriusnova> __mikem - what kind of ati card is it?
[04:14] <ardchoille> __mikem: hahaha
[04:14] <slew> siriusnova, yah, i suppose. basically i kinda need a w32 partition but id really rather not have to start over with ubuntu.
[04:14] <siriusnova> lol
[04:14] <Warbo> slew: Yes, just add it to /etc/fstab
[04:15] <__mikem> I have made that joke 20 times in here, and it still hasn't gotten old
[04:15] <pvd2006> I love how much easier it is to install software on Debian based distros:)
[04:15] <Warbo> slew: Do you have the partition already, or do you want to shrink Ubuntu to make it?
[04:15] <siriusnova> slew - i think you can resize your current ubuntu partition
[04:15] <siriusnova> !gparted
[04:15] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:15] <ardchoille> pvd2006: indeed :)
[04:15] <slew> both: i dont have the w32 partion, i'll need to install it
[04:16] <slew> i have 100+gig free on this drive
[04:16] <siriusnova> slew - yeah your going to have to resize your ubuntu partition to make it smaller
[04:16] <siriusnova> using gparted
[04:16] <siriusnova> then install onto the empty partition
[04:16] <siriusnova> use gparted
[04:16] <pvd2006> complex software*
[04:16] <ScreaminIk1> zomg ily
[04:16] <slew> ok
[04:16] <siriusnova> they have a nice livecd
[04:16] <slew> i'll try it out
[04:16] <slew> thanks
[04:16] <siriusnova> np
[04:16] <siriusnova> NEXT
[04:16] <siriusnova> ;)
[04:16] <__mikem> someone released a review flamming ubuntu dapper. I read the review, and most of the problems he claimed to have encountered, I never noticed
[04:16] <Warbo> slew: If you have free space then that is fine. Windows will overwrite the Master Boot Record when it is installed, so just reinstall GRUB from a LiveCD
[04:16] <slew> =] 
[04:16] <siriusnova> yeah that too
[04:17] <siriusnova> your going to have to reinstall grub after you install windows xp as it over writes the MBR (the area which tells your computer which OS to boot)
[04:17] <tronica> __mikem: do you have a link
[04:17] <iamelite> Im really excited about Dumping windows. i swear its like this fat chick i married 30 years ago. that has been bitching at me to rub her feet every day since (Reference to take care of me: with Antivirus, upgrades"Software") And every time mentioning... you cant sirvive without me. your my bitch... Tho im only 21... i feel like im being treated like a cheap hooker by microsoft.
[04:17] <__mikem> YEs hold on
[04:17] <loveJesus> hi
[04:17] <tronica> howdy
[04:17] <iiiears> !grub
[04:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:17] <loveJesus> how can I get firefox to support playinf streaming apple quicktime files?
[04:17] <Warbo> __mikem: People don't go dancing in the streets when there system does what it is supposed to, so you only hear from the few for whom it doesn't work
[04:18] <loveJesus> how can I get firefox to support playing streaming apple quicktime videos please?
[04:18] <siriusnova> loveJesus !mozilla-mplayer
[04:18] <siriusnova> err
[04:18] <subvertir> does anyone know how to get fglrx working without copying older versions of the driver?
[04:18] <DonL> iamelite: Say what you really mean!
[04:18] <siriusnova> !mozilla-mplayer
[04:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about mozilla-mplayer
[04:18] <loveJesus> !mozilla-mplayer
[04:18] <siriusnova> hmm
[04:18] <siriusnova> ok one sec
[04:18] <loveJesus> siriusnova: eh?
[04:18] <siriusnova> loveJesus - install the win32codecs in the repsitories
[04:18] <Warbo> subvertir: What model is your card
[04:18] <subvertir> mobility 9000
[04:18] <iiiears> !info mozilla-mplayer
[04:18] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[04:18] <loveJesus> siriusnova: i did that! and itm doesnt play quciktime videos
[04:18] <siriusnova> loveJesus then install that
[04:18] <loveJesus> siriusnova: i did that! and itm doesnt play quciktime videos through Firefox
[04:18] <Warbo> subvertir: Don't use fglrx, use radeon
[04:19] <subvertir> radeon sucks ass
[04:19] <loveJesus> siriusnova: its installed
[04:19] <iamelite> DonL You mean like, I want to take a Supersized Cactus and Shup it up Bill Gates A**
[04:19] <subvertir> fglrx was working fine =(
[04:19] <siriusnova> loveJesus - did you install mozilla-mplayer?
[04:19] <__mikem> tronica, Warbo, http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026
[04:19] <loveJesus> siriusnova: I can play videos but firefox wont
[04:19] <tronica> __mikem: thanks
[04:19] <DonL> iamelite: lol
[04:19] <Warbo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[04:19] <siriusnova> loveJesus - did you install mozilla-mplayer or just win32codecs ?
[04:19] <loveJesus> siriusnova: mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[04:19] <loveJesus> siriusnova: yes
[04:19] <siriusnova> hmm k
[04:19] <Warbo> subvertir: fglrx doesn't work on older cards (like mine)
[04:19] <siriusnova> weird
[04:19] <subvertir> Why would I want to use a driver developed by someone other than the manufacturer of the card?
[04:20] <siriusnova> did you restart firefox ?
[04:20] <__mikem> tronica, please note, I do not aggree with that review, I think its a load of crap
[04:20] <loveJesus> siriusnova: but websiters says missing plugins!  Any ideas?
[04:20] <loveJesus> siriusnova: yes
[04:20] <Warbo> subvertir: Why the hell are you using Ubuntu? Go get an Intel OS now!
[04:20] <loveJesus> siriusnova: rebooted and restarted many times
[04:20] <DShepherd> how do I kill X that is running on a specific display
[04:20] <DShepherd> ?
[04:20] <Warbo> subvertir: That's why
[04:20] <loveJesus> siriusnova: any ideas?
[04:20] <subvertir> CPUs != GPUs
[04:20] <iamelite> Seriously tho. if anyone know how to shift my Resources to Aid Wine in Emulating my games. (i am running a P3 733) a nearly impossible take... that can only be undertaken by the most Creative nerd! Then by god help me and save the world too.
[04:20] <snakema1> hey kids - sometimes when I'm logged in to my main computer from VNC on my laptop, it slows down the main machine...how do I kick VNC clients?
[04:20] <loveJesus> siriusnova: does your firefox play them?
[04:20] <siriusnova> loveJesus - thats weird, if you install w32codecs and then mozilla-mplayer everything should just work
[04:20] <siriusnova> yes
[04:20] <subvertir> I use an intel-developed driver for my wireless card because the specs aren't public
[04:21] <loveJesus> siriusnova: can you try this: https://wordsofpeace.org.au/discover/DMStep2.php?returnto=nsw
[04:21] <siriusnova> and all i did was sudo aptitude install w32codecs mozilla-mplayer
[04:21] <loveJesus> siriusnova: can you tell me if that file works
[04:21] <siriusnova> k
[04:21] <__mikem> The best emulation solution is vmware, case closed
[04:21] <Warbo> subvertir: Why the hell use a driver that absolutely no software on your computer actually understands?
[04:21] <loveJesus> siriusnova: thanks
[04:21] <iamelite> VMWARE?
[04:21] <siriusnova> loveJesus - there is no video there
[04:21] <DShepherd> siriusnova: you can apt-get install w32codecs?
[04:21] <iamelite> *PRocessing VM ware
[04:21] <siriusnova> DSheperd - yes its available through a repository
[04:21] <siriusnova> seveas i think
[04:21] <DShepherd> siriusnova: ok
[04:21] <snakema1> disconnecting vnc clients from target computer...anyone?
[04:22] <loveJesus> siriusnova: click on: Watch the  Discovering More video on-line.
[04:22] <DonL> __mikem: yeah, I never had much luck with Wine
[04:22] <DShepherd> siriusnova: i want to kill a xserver that is running on a specific display..how do i do that
[04:22] <loveJesus> siriusnova: https://wordsofpeace.org.au/discover/DMStep2.php?returnto=nsw
[04:22] <loveJesus> siriusnova: click on: Watch the  Discovering More video on-line.
[04:22] <loveJesus> siriusnova: does it work for you?
[04:22] <__mikem> DonL, cedega is prety solid for gaming, but not much else, wine is only good for running certain programs like office.
[04:22] <loveJesus> siriusnova: w32codecs is already the newest version.
[04:22] <loveJesus> mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[04:22] <siriusnova> loveJesus - i cant find any pages that have video on them heh
[04:23] <siriusnova> loveJesus - ok do this
[04:23] <siriusnova> go here
[04:23] <loveJesus> siriusnova: are you blind? LOL
[04:23] <loveJesus> siriusnova: ok where? :)
[04:23] <tronica> lovejesus. make sure after you install those restart firefox
[04:23] <blind> lol no he's not
[04:23] <iamelite> REquesting Explination of vmware plz
[04:23] <blind> I am!
[04:23] <Warbo> Some sites block streams if they aren't accessed by specific players (like QuickTime player)
[04:23] <loveJesus> tronica: been done many times
[04:23] <DonL> __mikem: Yes. You need to buy one of those for sure for gaming. For office, I really like openoffice anyway so that's not a problem
[04:23] <loveJesus> siriusnova: go where?
[04:23] <siriusnova> 1 sec
[04:23] <loveJesus> siriusnova: ok
[04:23] <__mikem> lol @ blind
[04:23] <DShepherd> !faq
[04:23] <ubotu> faq is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[04:23] <loveJesus> blind: lol
[04:23] <burepe1> is there a good program to convert ogg to mp3?
[04:23] <loveJesus> burepe: define good
[04:24] <__mikem> DonL, aggreed, I like open office so much, I don't even use ms office when I am in windows
[04:24] <loveJesus> siriusnova: you still here?
[04:24] <siriusnova> loveJesus - http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/disney/ratatouille/pop_apple.html?size=small
[04:24] <siriusnova> go there
[04:24] <siriusnova> tell me if something happens
[04:24] <FREAK--> can some one help me update my kernel
[04:24] <FREAK--> ??
[04:24] <Warbo> VMWare is not an emulator and neither is WINE. Bochs is probably the "best" emulator of PCs but it takes a lot of setting up (so Qemu is the easiest)
[04:24] <DonL> __mikem: I have secretly installed it in a couple of computers at work (MS ones) and I don't think anyone realizes it!
[04:25] <Warbo> burepe1: soundconverter (make sure you have MP3 plugins for gstreamer)
[04:25] <loveJesus> siriusnova: it says additional plugins are requaired to play it!
[04:25] <siriusnova> hrmm
[04:25] <loveJesus> siriusnova: what do I do now?
[04:25] <iiiears> If you like QEMU - you can add kqemu. to speed things up.
[04:25] <siriusnova> loveJesus type about:plugins in the firefox address bar
[04:25] <FREAK--> can some one help me?
[04:25] <Warbo> iiiears: But then it wouldn't be an emulator and my argument dies :)
[04:25] <loveJesus> siriusnova: ok
[04:25] <__mikem> DonL, have you seen those users actually use it and not realize whats going on, or do they just not know its there
[04:25] <iiiears> Okay.
[04:26] <vanberge> FREAK--: what is your prob?
[04:26] <siriusnova> do you see any Quicktime there?
[04:26] <iamelite> Vmware Vs QEMU
[04:26] <loveJesus> siriusnova: what you want me to show you?
[04:26] <FREAK--> i need to update my kernel and i forget how
[04:26] <siriusnova> yes
[04:26] <loveJesus> siriusnova: nothing about quicktime
[04:26] <Warbo> siriusnova: Some sites which stream quicktime block vertain players. I know pokerchannel.com does
[04:26] <DonL> __mikem: Yeah. I've seen them open MS office files and they don't know. They don't know computers either
[04:26] <vanberge> FREAK--: you mean just get the latest version?
[04:26] <iiiears> Grab VMWare iif you have 299 dollars. else QEMU is it.
[04:26] <__mikem> Warbo, I know vmware is not an emulator, It is a virtualization program, but it is the most reliable
[04:26] <FREAK--> vanberge, yes
[04:26] <siriusnova> Warbo - it should work on the apple site, i bet he doesnt have the correct codecs installed
[04:26] <loveJesus> siriusnova: nothing about quicktime! what now?
[04:26] <Warbo> siriusnova: OK
[04:27] <vanberge> FREAK--: do you mean as simple as running updat manager and getting the latest updates?  that iwll get the latest kernel?
[04:27] <siriusnova> loveJesus do you have a section titled "mplayerplug-in"
[04:27] <siriusnova> in the about:pluguns area
[04:27] <FREAK--> vanberge,  yes
[04:27] <__mikem> DonL, thats scary, considering a lot of the options are under different menus and in different places on open office than they are on ms office
[04:27] <nomasteryoda|w> latest Ubuntu kernel
[04:27] <Warbo> __mikem: I wrote the Wiki page on VMWare by the way :) (well, the commands were from someone else, but I formatted it)
[04:27] <nomasteryoda|w> not latest on net
[04:27] <loveJesus> siriusnova: mplayerplug-in doesnt appear anywhere
[04:27] <DonL> FREAK--: Is there something not working that you want working that a new kernel might fix?
[04:27] <vanberge> FREAK--: system > administration > updat manager
[04:27] <siriusnova> loveJesus - are you using the default firefox with ubuntu ?
[04:28] <ardchoille> bbiab
[04:28] <loveJesus> siriusnova: it says: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
[04:28] <__mikem> THe only thing I don't like about open office is it takes a while to innitialize under windows
[04:28] <siriusnova> thats really weird
[04:28] <iamelite> I am going to Attempt QEMU its explination is simple
[04:28] <__mikem> I never heard of QEMU
[04:28] <__mikem> !qemu
[04:28] <loveJesus> siriusnova: 1.5 firefox
[04:28] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> quemu is nice
[04:28] <siriusnova> loveJesus - wait does it say Ubuntu / Dapper anywhere?
[04:28] <nomasteryoda|w> slow, but nice
[04:29] <mejobloggs> siriusnova: well... i managed to break the gui
[04:29] <loveJesus> siriusnova: im using breezy
[04:29] <nomasteryoda|w> vmware-player ... in the repos is faster
[04:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone running swiftfox?
[04:29] <__mikem> based on the ubotu factoid, it looks like a free version of vmware
[04:29] <siriusnova> loveJesus - ohh
[04:29] <mejobloggs> siriusnova: now i have only terminal thing
[04:29] <tronica> i tried swiftfox
[04:29] <Warbo> Qemu is easy to use, but kqemu is NOT (it doesn't load at boot, so I have actually made a bootup script which reruns "make install")
[04:29] <nomasteryoda|w> __mikem, it is free
[04:29] <loveJesus> siriusnova: nothing about Ubuntu
[04:29] <siriusnova> loveJesus - i thought you were using dapper, i dont know about breezy. It's probably broken
[04:29] <FREAK--> oook i have the latest, but it doesnt feel like it
[04:29] <__mikem> My brother didn't pay all that money for a copyof vmware workstation for nothing, so I might as well use it untill they update then I may switch over
[04:29] <mejobloggs> siriusnova: how can i fget my gui back?
[04:29] <nomasteryoda|w> Mark talked about it 2 weeks ago on TheLinuxLink Techshow
[04:29] <loveJesus> siriusnova: are you brain dead?
[04:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> tronica: was it any better , performance wise?
[04:29] <iiiears> QEMU  is the best thing since sliced bread. - make a mistake installing an app. - boot a new image.
[04:30] <jrib> I'm trying to run debuild -S on a package and I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16346 but gpg --clearsign works fine on a random text file.  Any ideas on what is going on?
[04:30] <__mikem> nomasteryoda|w I know its free, but I called their customer service, and according to them, the vmware server will always be free, its not like microsoft where they make the beta free but the release is pay-for
[04:30] <siriusnova> mejobloggs - just undo allthe steps
[04:30] <mejobloggs> uh... got no idea how
[04:30] <tronica> i couldn't tell any difference
[04:30] <siriusnova> you did to install XGL / compiz
[04:30] <loveJesus> siriusnova: how can I upgrade Opera to 9.0?
[04:30] <iiiears> !compiz
[04:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> tronica: where did u get all the dependencies?
[04:30] <Warbo> QEMU should be built from source, and you need two versions of GCC just to do that (to get KQemu built) then I have to reinstall it at boot (and reset permissions)
[04:30] <siriusnova> loveJesus - get the download from the opera web page they have a download there
[04:31] <siriusnova> for Ubuntu
[04:31] <eXistenZ> Is ubotu an eggdrop?
[04:31] <mejobloggs> siriusnova: where do i find my X11 config thing?
[04:31] <tronica> n0ctuRnaL: let me see, hld on
[04:31] <siriusnova> mejobloggs /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <loveJesus> siriusnova: for ubuntu?
[04:31] <siriusnova> mejobloggs - what did you follow to set up XGL ?
[04:31] <loveJesus> siriusnova: they have Opera for ubuntu?
[04:31] <siriusnova> loveJesus - yes
[04:32] <DonL> Oh! By the way, I hardly ever use Opera. My browser of choice has always been Firefox. Right now I'm using the irc chat built into Opera, and I'm really impressed.
[04:33] <loveJesus> siriusnova: no they dont
[04:33] <Warbo> DonL: I have finally got a dark theme which is coherent, but Opera uses a different toolkit, so I would need to find a matching dark grey/blue theme
[04:33] <tronica> n0ctuRnal: i think i found a deb of, let me see if i can get ahold if again
[04:33] <loveJesus> DonL: anything impresses you :P
[04:33] <DonL> Warbo: Don't know about themes. I'm just using the default
[04:33] <siriusnova> loveJesus - http://www.opera.com/download/?platform=linux
[04:33] <siriusnova> its right there
[04:34] <DonL> loveJesus: I must admit I'm impressed easily!
[04:35] <tronica> n)ctuRnal: well i cant find that deb, but i found a guide
[04:35] <tronica> n0turnal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142798
[04:35] <loveJesus> DonL: yeah we know :)
[04:35] <iamelite> OK, Heres a good Question, i currently have *No* wine installed. However there is a note of a Dapper WoW-Wine Patch. It would seem that for dapper theres a full install of wine, that i can download.
[04:35] <loveJesus> siriusnova: ok ty!  if I install Dapper from the CD will firefox work?
[04:35] <__mikem> Firebird8 could you make up your mind and quit that
[04:35] <iamelite> Is this true. or will i mess up the computer by installing it
[04:35] <siriusnova> loveJesus - yes
[04:35] <Firebird8> __mikem, sorry bout that
[04:35] <siriusnova> install dapper anyway its better then breezy
[04:35] <Warbo> iamelite: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[04:35] <Firebird8> my brother
[04:36] <loveJesus> siriusnova: I should maybe upgrade to Dapper then
[04:36] <siriusnova> yeah you should
[04:36] <loveJesus> siriusnova: will upgrade break anything?
[04:36] <siriusnova> loveJesus - well id rather install from a blank cd
[04:36] <Warbo> iamelite: That will only work on 32bit x86 though
[04:36] <pvd2006> Im putting xgl on ubuntu and I got this error when trying to run  compiz-start.py, http://pastebin.ca/70342
[04:36] <loveJesus> siriusnova: why?
[04:36] <siriusnova> i mean blank hd
[04:36] <loveJesus> siriusnova: why?
[04:36] <siriusnova> because upgrading can tend to break thing
[04:36] <siriusnova> things
[04:36] <siriusnova> but no harm in trying
[04:36] <loveJesus> siriusnova: ok
[04:37] <DonL> loveJesus: I just did it last week. I was quite scared, but I followed the instructions on the wiki and no problems
[04:37] <siriusnova> justmake sure you backup everything
[04:37] <iamelite> Warbo that is the latest version of wine, yes. However i have made note of a WoW-Wine patched install... and the notes deleted due to install... Ill go find it
[04:37] <loveJesus> siriusnova: ive made a mirror copy on another HD anyway, so I can try
[04:37] <siriusnova> yeah give it a shot
[04:37] <s|k> is it normal for eclipse to eat 100% of the cpu?
[04:37] <siriusnova> i prefer a clean "fresh" install
[04:37] <siriusnova> but then thats just me
[04:37] <loveJesus> DonL: im not worried because I have created a mirror copy of hda to hdb so if it breaks I simply copy from hdb to hda and back to normal ;)
[04:37] <Warbo> iamelite: There is also an Ubuntu repository from the makers of WINE (winehq.org)
[04:37] <DonL> siriusnova: me too, but no probs this time
[04:38] <DonL> loveJesus: good idea
[04:38] <tronica> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, did you catch that
[04:38] <loveJesus> siriusnova: with a new install, that means I have to install limewire again, and mp3 support, settings etc :(
[04:38] <snakema1> what do I do if System Monitor shows spikes in CPU usage, but the process list doesn't attribute it to any one thing?
[04:38] <siriusnova> loveJesus - yes true
[04:38] <siriusnova> so try upgrading
[04:38] <loveJesus> snakema1: scream
[04:39] <Warbo> snakema1: Be glad that it doesn't stay at 100% and get on with whatever it is you are doing
[04:39] <siriusnova> and if things break you can always start from scratch :P
[04:39] <loveJesus> siriusnova: yeah! ty
[04:39] <loveJesus> later
[04:39] <loveJesus> siriusnova: yes, and im not worried because I have created a mirror copy of hda to hdb so if it breaks I simply copy from hdb to hda and back to normal ;)
[04:39] <iamelite> Warbo: from what i understand, the program requires a patch in order to be functional with "World of warcraft" Due to targeting errors. i managed to find a prebuilt package somewheres.
[04:39] <snakema1> I'm not a big fan of jesus
[04:39] <DonL> loveJesus: some people who are smarter than me keep their (home) folder seperate, and don't have to re-install everything
[04:39] <loveJesus> DonL: ok
[04:39] <loveJesus> later, God bless
[04:39] <Warbo> iamelite: If the package is called "wine" then be careful that it doesn't get overwritten during an upgrade/dist-upgrade
[04:40] <__mikem> snakema1 then thow art condemed to the fires of eternal **********
[04:40] <snakema1> awesome.
[04:40] <wastrel> thou
[04:40] <DonL> Warbo: Yeah. There are a bunch of things to look for like that
[04:40] <Krhis> snakema1, I was temped in rejoining this chat with my HailSatan nick. >.>
[04:40] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> tronica: i got it now , thank you
[04:40] <iamelite> Warbo: I dont belive i understand what you mean
[04:40] <__mikem> lol @ Krhis
[04:40] <Krhis> XD
[04:41] <DonL> I say my upgrade went well. What I mean is that it didn't totally tank. There were a couple things that needed attention, but I thought it was minor
[04:41] <snakema1> stupid jesus freaks.
[04:41] <mooreand13213> still having trouble with nvidia drivers guys
[04:41] <__mikem> hey, I take offence
[04:41] <foxiness> what the window manager are in use on ubuntu?
[04:41] <snakema1> anyway...looks like system monitor doesn't show other processes
[04:41] <iamelite> JEsus loves you this i know... so does micheal jackson. but at least ones real
[04:41] <Hobbsee> snakema1: that's inappropriate and against the COC, thanks
[04:41] <Warbo> DonL: Some people who are REALLY smart keep a seperate partition within their home, so that their files and settings are seperate, allowing them to use the same partition of files across multiple systems :)
[04:41] <snakema1> like...stuff run by root
[04:41] <mooreand13213> ran sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and it is still doing the same thing
[04:41] <Hobbsee> iamelite: : that's inappropriate and against the COC, thanks
[04:41] <snakema1> looks like xorg is chewin gup cpu
[04:42] <DonL> Warbo: maybe I'll learn to do that eventually. I hope
[04:42] <Krhis> snakema1, View > All Proc?
[04:42] <Krhis> I'm always using ps
[04:42] <iamelite> Hobbsee: :-/
[04:42] <mooreand13213> anyone know of anything else that i could do?
[04:42] <Warbo> foxiness: GNOME= Metacity, KDE= Kwin, XFCE= (I don't know) but there is also blackbox, fluxbox, window maker, enlightenment0.16
[04:42] <__mikem> Warbo xfwm
[04:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> tronica: does firefox have to be installed in order for the swiftfox to work?
[04:43] <snakema1> Krhis: awesome..I didn't see that
[04:43] <__mikem> Enlightenment is the most annoying window manager I ever used
[04:43] <Krhis> ^^
[04:43] <Warbo> __mikem: I was guessing it would start with X and end in WM :)
[04:43] <tronica> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, hmm...not sure i left mine installed and it carried over my prefs
[04:43] <DonL> mooreand13213: It can be frustrating figuring out that stuff, but you will do it
[04:43] <Krhis> __mikem, I can agree. I don't like the Mouse + Keyboard combo's.
[04:43] <__mikem> Warbo ;)
[04:43] <Warbo> __mikem: It's fantastic, I am in the latest build now (0.16.8)
[04:43] <mooreand13213> anyone help me with nvidia drivers? i installed in safe graphics mode and recovery mode but it didnt work
[04:43] <tronica> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, can't rember for sure as its been like a year since i've used it
[04:44] <snakema1> is Xorg X windows? can I kill it?
[04:44] <foxiness> Warbo, is there a way from CLI to know what in use?
[04:44] <Warbo> mooreand13213: How did you install? Packages?
[04:44] <Krhis> I'm using the latest dev build of Fluxbox.
[04:44] <snakema1> no guts no glory...
[04:44] <__mikem> I like kde, and xfce, and I can live with gnome, for a minimalist system, I think fluxbox is the way to go
[04:44] <Warbo> foxiness: You can use "ps ax" to see the running processes
[04:44] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> tronica: alright , ty
[04:44] <mooreand13213> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[04:45] <Warbo> mooreand13213: What does "sudo modprobe nvidia" do?
[04:45] <iamelite> Well then.
[04:45] <mooreand13213> idk, i cant get into linux
[04:45] <elw> loads the nvidia kernel module?
[04:45] <mooreand13213> im under windows right now
[04:45] <DonL> __mikem: I too like XFCE, but I don't know how to use it properly yet. Gnome does everything I want for now
[04:45] <Krhis> I can't live with KDE..... Too much eyecandy, hard time finding out where to go to get one option configured.
[04:45] <wastrel> yup
[04:46] <iamelite> What do i do with a tar.gz file...
[04:46] <Eleaf> open it
[04:46] <elw> tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[04:46] <Krhis> Decompress it, Eleaf. XD
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !compile > Eleaf
[04:46] <Hobbsee> !compile > iamelite
[04:46] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Oh, OK. What I was going to suggest (maybe write this down for later) is to install "module-assistant" then run it (with sudo) and use that to build your module (it is pretty straight forward, it has a menu in CLI)
[04:46] <__mikem> Krhis, I generally remove any of the eye candy when I use kde, I just like the window manager it uses, and the ability to customize it
[04:46] <Eleaf> lol
[04:46] <Eleaf> Hobbsee, ...
[04:46] <Krhis> Ah.
[04:46] <DonL> Krhis: Yeah. Me too. The bouncing icons are cool for about a minute. Then you start thinking about how much real estate they cost
[04:46] <Eleaf> Hobbsee, I know how to compile lols
[04:46] <iamelite> !compile
[04:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[04:46] <__mikem> DonL, you should play around with xfce, you can get a live cd of xubuntu, and that should be plenty
[04:47] <mooreand13213> warbo: do that where? at recovery mode thing?
[04:47] <Hobbsee> Eleaf: yeah, got the wrong nick
[04:47] <Krhis> DonL, KDE is everything plus a bag of chips.
[04:47] <Eleaf> Hobbsee, =) oh.
[04:47] <DonL> __mikem: Done that. Play with it sometimes.
[04:47] <foxiness> !linux
[04:47] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:47] <DonL> Krhis: I'll take the chips and leave the KDE thanks
[04:47] <Warbo> mooreand13213: It will run in a terminal (console) yes, just make sure you have Interney access when you do it
[04:47] <elw> i just bought the "ubuntu hacks" book
[04:48] <elw> =)
[04:48] <__mikem> Hey, linux owes 75 percent of its desktop market share to kde
[04:48] <mooreand13213> warbo: what exactly am i going to be doing with this module-assistant?
[04:48] <c01100011> How do I fix gdesklets transparancy when using Xorg ?
[04:48] <elw> are you guys all using xchat-gnome or what?
[04:49] <foxiness> __mikem, and less than 10% from other DE i think
[04:49] <tronica> xchat-gnome here
[04:49] <[Ex0r] > Does anybody here know of any equally flexible CAD software as compared to autocad ?
[04:49] <Warbo> mooreand13213: It will take the nvidia-kernel-source (you choose nvidia out of a list of modules that you want) and extract it, build it for your kernel then create and install a package of it
[04:49] <quantux> chatzilla
[04:49] <snakema1> haha...let me tell you about a little process you're NOT suppose to kill...it's called Xorg
[04:49] <Kazukisan> when ever i put a music cd or sometimes data cd's in my drive it pops up on the desktop for a second and the disapears and wonts let me mount it ????
[04:50] <DonL> __mikem: I like the minimalist approach. Have you tried Slax? I like Debian too much to go there completely, but they have a nice small system like DSL that can fit on a business card cd
[04:50] <mooreand13213> warbo: gotcha. i guess it is a nvidia driver problem that im having and not anything else right?
[04:50] <c01100011> Ex0r - nothing draft wise comparable to autocad, if it is the 3d modeling you are after, Blender is a 3ds max type program that will blow you away
[04:50] <Warbo> mooreand13213: I am guessing so
[04:50] <__mikem> DonL, I have another virtual machine with freebsd on it, so I do minimalist systems also, I sort of swing both ways
[04:50] <__mikem> lol in a matter of speaking
[04:50] <mooreand13213> warbo: ty
[04:50] <elw> my lcd display has this wierd "quiver" thing going on, mostly in the upper left corner, it is on a kvm, with windows xp and windows is fine on it, any ideas?
[04:50] <[Ex0r] > c01100011, already got that :) looking for autocad typed software so i can make up some blueprints for my fathers house. I've got autocad for windows, but no more windows :\
[04:51] <DonL> __mikem: Good for you. I never tire of trying new things. That's what brought me out of the singular system mind set
[04:51] <mooreand13213> warbo: let me make sure i have this straight. i boot into recovery mode and run "sudo apt-get module-assistant"?
[04:51] <c01100011> Ex0r- haven't found anything decent, I am an Architect by trade and would love a good drafting linux application
[04:51] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : VMWare is perfect for those few "must have" apps
[04:51] <tronica> [Ex0r] , try running autocad under wine
[04:51] <[Ex0r] > Warbo, also very intensive :)
[04:51] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Yes, then when it is installed you run "sudo module-assistant"
[04:51] <c01100011> Ex0r - Autocad can be wined, it isn't tooo bad,
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > I think I was reading that crossover office runs the latest autocad
[04:52] <mooreand13213> warbo: thanks a lot, ur a lifesaver :)
[04:52] <__mikem> I installed fluxbox on the freebsd box, but I find myself spending more time in text mode on that thing, I just don't feel like starting X for simple things like running an irc client
[04:52] <Warbo> c01100011: I find Flash in WINE is unbearable, so I doubt a 3D app would do well
[04:52] <Back_Space> whats the command to restart apache??
[04:52] <[Ex0r] > Warbo, it's not a 3d app :)
[04:53] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Oh? Must be more orthographic then. My bad
[04:53] <c01100011> Warbo - It works well untill you start to create 3d solids
[04:53] <[Ex0r] > Warbo, It's autocad, used for computer aided drafting. Doing concept designs for cars, blueprints for houses, etc.
[04:53] <__mikem> I like open source as much as the next person, but for emulation, vmware is still the best way to go in my oppinion, and they have a free version
[04:53] <[Ex0r] > as far as I know it can't do 3d
[04:54] <Warbo> [Ex0r] : Yes, but I assumed it would have a real-time 3D representation of the structured drawings
[04:54] <[Ex0r] > ahhhh, nope
[04:54] <Warbo> __mikem: It's NOT an emulator!
[04:54] <Warbo> :)
[04:54] <__mikem> Warbo, I know ;), but most programs that are by definition emulators are to cumbersome to use
[04:54] <elw> what is a good console based irc client?
[04:54] <mejobloggs> Age of Empires 2 very hard to get going on linux?
[04:55] <tronica> Back_Space, /etc/rc.d/init.d/apachectl restart
[04:55] <[Ex0r] > elw, irssi is the ONLY one, to my knowledge
[04:55] <Warbo> __mikem: Not JITs tied into OSs (think "Classic" on OSX and "Petunia" on AmigaOS4)
[04:55] <elw> ok, thanks Ex0r
[04:55] <wastrel> [Ex0r] :  elw bitchx
[04:55] <iamelite> Compiling is... Quite an interesting process
[04:56] <DonL> __mikem: Sometimes I feel that the maturity of some of the older GUI's wins. They may be hungrier resource wise, but it's easier to figure them out and use their file systems. I do like them to be pretty, and I do like them to be fast. The glitz I can do without.
[04:56] <[Ex0r] > wastrel, bitchx is console based?
[04:56] <wastrel> yes
[04:56] <Back_Space> tronica: no such file
[04:56] <Sjoerd-> Hello, I have installed awstats but it doesn't show imagses. They are on the sever in /usr/bin/local/awstats/wwwroot/icon/ and my apache2.conf points to that place Alias /awstatsicons "/usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/icon". When viewing the actual stats, if i go to properties of a (not working) image I see this: http://192.168.2.10/icon/other/page.png
[04:56] <varsendaggr> how can i tell if i have jre  ?
[04:56] <__mikem> dapper drake comes with irssi
[04:56] <wastrel> varsendaggr:  java
[04:56] <tronica> Back_Space, let me try it on mine
[04:56] <Sjoerd-> sorry for the typos..
[04:57] <Back_Space> tronica: gocha
[04:57] <Warbo> varsendaggr: Try running a Java app. Or use "sudo dpkg -l | grep jre"
[04:57] <Sjoerd-> any idea's?
[04:57] <__mikem> DonL was that relating back to the desktop discussion we were having before?
[04:57] <Warbo> varsendaggr: Try "java" and "j2re" instead of "jre" as well
[04:57] <siriusnova> okay guys the wiki nvidia guide is depreciated
[04:57] <tronica> Back_Space,  try /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:57] <siriusnova> we need to fix it
[04:57] <siriusnova> its screwing up too many people
[04:58] <__mikem> CAN WE FIX IT? YES WE CAN!
[04:58] <DonL> __mikem: Sorry. I just had a huge split and all I saw on screen was the old stuff.
[04:58] <elw> is there a command like " apt-cache --what-provides /usr/bin/program ?
[04:58] <Warbo> !nvidia
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <siriusnova> yeah that one
[04:58] <siriusnova> its screwing people up
[04:58] <__mikem> DonL, its alright, it was an interesting point anyway
[04:58] <DonL> Must go for now. My all time favourite show is coming on
[04:58] <Warbo> Dammit, forgot I can;t right click :(
[04:58] <siriusnova> the one in ubuntuguide is the one we should use
[04:58] <siriusnova> not that one
[04:58] <__mikem> Have fun
[04:58] <DonL> Night!
[04:58] <Back_Space> tronica: ok thanks
[04:58] <__mikem> night
[04:58] <tronica> Back_Space, np
[04:59] <Back_Space> tronica: wait it failed
[04:59] <Sjoerd-> Anyone willing to have a look at my problem? Or is noone using awstats?
[04:59] <tronica> Back_Space, whats it say
[04:59] <Back_Space> tronica: oh i should use sudo
[04:59] <tronica> Back_Space, yeah
[04:59] <__mikem> Sometimes even sudo isn't enough, and you actually have to go root
[04:59] <__mikem> atleast in fedora I ran into that a few times
[04:59] <varsendaggr> __mikem, when?
[04:59] <[Ex0r] > alright, time for bed
[05:00] <__mikem> varsendaggr, when you are using selinux
[05:00] <iamelite> Is Cedega worth buying?
[05:00] <Abnix> iamelite: yes
[05:00] <__mikem> iamelite, yes it is
[05:00] <__mikem> It almost always works flawlessly
[05:00] <alexcamilo_deb> Hello, Anyone here have experience compiling a kernel for ppc willing to help a n00b?
[05:00] <varsendaggr> iamelite, what do you want to run?
[05:00] <c01100011_> Gdesklets transperant backgrounds are all black when running it with Xorg. I tried --translucency but had no luck. Is there a fix
[05:00] <Awesome-o2000> how do I enable WEP encryption on my wireless?
[05:00] <iamelite> World of warcraft
[05:00] <[Ex0r] > c01100011, I had the same problems so I stopped using it
[05:00] <__mikem> iamelite, you don't need to buy it though, you can compile it from source through cvs
[05:00] <wastrel> mmm wow
[05:00] <Sjoerd-> Awesome-o2000, it should work by default.
[05:01] <wastrel> i would play but i don't have windows
[05:01] <Awesome-o2000> sjoerd, it does not work by default.
[05:01] <ToHellWithGA> holla ballas.  i'm installing vmware and get this message when it tries to find C headers for my kernel: The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[05:01] <iamelite> __mikem: LOL yeah, me compile...
[05:01] <varsendaggr> iamelite,    you could try to use qemu and vmplayer   to emulate windows xp  it
[05:01] <Sjoerd-> Awesome-o2000, have you lookt under properties?
[05:01] <iiiears> Cedega is a very good app. easy to use supports both DirectX and CD copy protections. Apps install from a single control panel.
[05:01] <Sjoerd-> Awesome-o2000, of your network interface card?
[05:01] <Awesome-o2000> sjoerd, I have looked via iwconfig
[05:01] <__mikem> varsendaggr, that assumes he has a copy of windows lieing around
[05:01] <Awesome-o2000> it says Encryption Key off
[05:01] <ToHellWithGA> iamelite: after trying qemu (and being in the process of installing vmware) i'd not recommend qemu
[05:01] <varsendaggr> __mikem, who doesn't?
[05:01] <tronica> iamelite, theres a demo to try
[05:01] <Sjoerd-> Awesome-o2000: you using dapper?
[05:02] <__mikem> RIght now, all our license keys are in use
[05:02] <Awesome-o2000> sjoerd, yes.
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> it was laggy and buggy on an installation of windows server 2003
[05:02] <varsendaggr> ToHellWithGA,   well that is sad
[05:02] <iamelite> A demo of cedega... Link plz?
[05:02] <__mikem> ToHellWithGA, which version of vmware are you using?
[05:02] <varsendaggr> qemu is slick
[05:02] <Awesome-o2000> sjoerd, no, im sorry, I'm using xubuntu but its based on 6.06
[05:02] <Sjoerd-> Awesome-o2000: Does your card support wep? Or are you confused with wpa?
[05:02] <__mikem> ToHellWithGA, which version of vmware are you using?
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> __mikem: i'm installing from VMware-server-1.0.0-24927.tar.gz
[05:03] <Awesome-o2000> Sjoerd-, my card is a linksys wpc54g. It supports WEP.
[05:03] <Sjoerd-> Awesome-o2000: Sorry I only know you can just fill in the wep key with the 'normal' dapper.. Maybe someone else knows :)
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> and it's not feeling it when it gets to building vmmon modules
[05:03] <Warbo> siriusnova: I would add the module-assistant method to the Nvidia guide (it has ALWAYS worked for me, even when the others don't) and also there should be some mention of nvidia-glx depending on linux-restricted-modules. If you don't have your restricted modules installed it will always try to install linux-restricted-modules-XXXXXX-386, so if you don't use a 386 kernel it will install linux-image-386 as well. Basically you ne
[05:03] <tronica> iamelite, http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_cedega_downloads.html
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> __mikem: do you know what i need to get "C headers that match [my]  running kernel"?
[05:03] <siriusnova> Warbo - yeah
[05:03] <__mikem> ToHellWithGA, a word of caution, the hardware abstraction layer for graphics on vmware server is NOT perfected and is very slow. IF you want to see vmware at its best, you would need to buy vmware workstation, you can also bypass this problem by creating the virtual machines with vmware server and playing them in vmware player as vmware player doesn't have this performance issue
[05:03] <remoteBoy> is there an application that emulates a ms media center (to send video to a xbox360)
[05:04] <Fabs> Hi...
[05:04] <loststar4545> i downloaded xengine from the repositories but can fingure how to use it
[05:04] <__mikem> TOHellWithGA apt-get build essential
[05:04] <ToHellWithGA> __mikem: i'm not playing video games.  i need Sony's sonicstage
[05:04] <ToHellWithGA> __mikem: i've had that for a couple hours now
[05:04] <Fabs> I would like to know, how can I adquire the cd Ubuntu
[05:04] <dr_willis> remoteBoy,  id check freshmeat.net :P
[05:04] <iamelite> tronica: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_cedega_downloads.html is broken
[05:04] <__mikem> TOHellWithGA even if you are not playing video games, the lag caused by the abstraction layer will be painful
[05:04] <tronica> iamelite, let find another
[05:04] <Warbo> Fabs: "shipit.ubuntu.com" or download it from www.ubuntu.com
[05:04] <ToHellWithGA> __mikem: it's really no biggie to me
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> really really, don't sweat it
[05:05] <__mikem> Ok
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> do you have a guess about my "C headers"?
[05:05] <tronica> iamelite, no its not
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> i thought build-essential would include everything essential as well
[05:05] <__mikem> If build-essential didn't fix it, I have no idea what the problem might be
[05:05] <elw> is there a command like " apt-cache --what-provides /usr/bin/program ?
[05:05] <Sjoerd-> Who is willing to give me a hand on my images problem?
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> is /usr/src/linux/include not the correct directory for those headers possibly?
[05:05] <Warbo> Does build-essential get the right headers?
[05:06] <iamelite> tronica: i guess it dont like me then
[05:06] <__mikem> ToHellWithGA you could try apt-get update and then apt-get build-essential
[05:06] <ToHellWithGA> there is no directory there
[05:06] <ToHellWithGA> i'll try that
[05:06] <ToHellWithGA> oh crap, i bet i've updated something big without restarting
[05:06] <tronica> iamelite, is it working now
[05:06] <mooreand13213> warbo: im back :) still having problems. i got an error that module-assistant couldn't be found
[05:06] <ToHellWithGA> i remember there were some heavy updates in the list when i last restarted
[05:06] <__mikem> in linux that usually won't matter unless you updated the kernel
[05:06] <decline|lvthn> Need a credit card to buy a counter-strike server (GAME) msg me ty
[05:06] <Warbo> Sjoerd-: Images as in pictures or images as in data streams dumped from a device?
[05:06] <mooreand13213> im in ubuntu as a live user under safe graphics mode
[05:07] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You do have Universe yes?
[05:07] <iamelite> tronica: just blank to me
[05:07] <ToHellWithGA> __mikem: do you know offhand if any kernel updates have occured since the initial 6.06 release?
[05:07] <dr_willis> decline|lvthn,  and exactly what sort of message ya want?
[05:07] <tronica> iamelite, hld on
[05:07] <__mikem> Yes, there was one I think
[05:07] <mooreand13213> warbo:idk, what is that
[05:07] <ToHellWithGA> i just reinstalled the OS a couple hours ago, so i probably have updated the kernel
[05:07] <Warbo> !universe
[05:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[05:07] <ToHellWithGA> i'll give a reset a chance
[05:07] <Krhis> decline|lvthn, that's OT in #ubuntu.
[05:07] <__mikem> brb
[05:08] <__mikem> I believe if you buy vmware esx server, you can run it on bare metal hardware
[05:08] <XtortioN> Hi All, does any one know of a app that can scan for disk errors?
[05:08] <Awesome-o2000> regardless of what I do I cannot get my encryption key set on in iwconfig. I have entered a key but wep does nto seem to be enabling. I beg for help.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> ayou can get the sever free too __mikem
[05:08] <Kyral> XtortioN: the badblocks program
[05:08] <Warbo> XtortioN: You can use fsck, or maybe even "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null"
[05:08] <tronica> iamelite, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Simulation/Cedega-9843.shtml
[05:08] <mooreand13213> warbo: how would i find out if i have that?
[05:09] <__mikem> I will recomend the server version when it is stable, I have voiced my oppinion on use of beta software
[05:09] <Fabs> has somebody here wold like to talk with a brazilian girl!?
[05:09] <XtortioN> Kyral, will this all fix drives?
[05:09] <slew> anyone recommend a livecd thats good for installing grub only?
[05:09] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You don't have it by default, so you probably don't (or you would remember). Look in /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment (delete the "#") the appropriate lines
[05:09] <Kyral> XtortioN: it just checks the partitions
[05:10] <iamelite> tronica: Cheer. it workin
[05:10] <kevman> Whoah, 600 seeds on the ubuntu torrent
[05:10] <tronica> iamelite, great
[05:10] <XtortioN> Kyral, so you dont know of a program to fix errors?
[05:10] <dr_willis> slew,  'tomsbrt' rescue cd  - is a must have tool.
[05:10] <Kyral> XtortioN: define errors
[05:10] <tronica> iamelite, keep in mind that works for 14 days i believe
[05:10] <__mikem> I used something called freedownloadmanager to get my ubuntu cd, got it in 45 minutes with it
[05:10] <Kyral> XtortioN: fsck works
[05:10] <slew> dr_willis, thanks.
[05:10] <iamelite> tronica: yeah i know... 14 days, then 14 days
[05:10] <XtortioN> Kyral, thank you so much ill give it a shoot
[05:11] <mooreand13213> warbo: it won't let me save, says its read only
[05:11] <ScreaminIk1> how do i rip a cd to mp3?
[05:11] <Warbo> XtortioN: I found that Breezy worked around a bad sector on my Dad's harddrive (made one partition either side, so I put one as / and one as /home) if that helps
[05:11] <__mikem> IF you want a nice quick way to download ubuntu try www.freedownloadmanager.org on for size, it is perfectly safe
[05:11] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Use sudo or gksudo (if you are in a GUI)
[05:11] <Sjoerd-> Warbo: Just images... In the awstats stats page.
[05:11] <hanasaki> 6.06 is always booting with addr:169.254.101.201  even though the NIC is auto dhcp   and if i kill the dhcpclient daemon and restart it gets the correct IP from the dhcpserver... Note:  the dhcpclient daemon is syslog ing that it gets the correct IP... yet that IP is not being set on the NIC
[05:12] <iamelite> tronica: its in HTM format?
[05:12] <tronica> iamelite, what :(
[05:12] <XtortioN> Warbo, wow thats intresting i never knew that
[05:12] <Warbo> Sjoerd-: Er, I don't know what awstats is
[05:12] <iamelite> tronica: its 20+ megs, but HTM...
[05:12] <Sjoerd-> Warbo: It's a stats program.
[05:12] <XtortioN> Warbo, im so use to windows thanks for the tip
[05:12] <tronica> iamelite, let me put on my server for you
[05:12] <elw> I passed the ubuntu certified professional exam last weekend
[05:13] <mooreand13213> warbo: how would i use gksudo under gedit?
[05:13] <iamelite> tronica: is that an IRC or a Linux reference "Server"
[05:13] <Warbo> mooreand13213: The other way around :) ("gksudo gedit")
[05:13] <slew> dr_willis, where can i find tomsbrt?
[05:13] <tronica> i will post a link to download it on here
[05:13] <dr_willis> slew,  google is your friend. :P
[05:13] <dr_willis> slew,  let me see.. ive not updated it in ages myself. Lol
[05:14] <__mikem> Google sucks, I type in free software, and it returns "free shiping when you BUY our software"
[05:14] <slew> dr_willis, google hates me today
[05:14] <iamelite> tronica: ok
[05:14] <XtortioN> Kyral, 'sudo fsck /dev/hdb1' > is this correct?
[05:14] <Sjoerd-> Is there anyone here that has an ubuntu webserver with awstats on it, willing to help me fix images problem.. They don't show on the stats pages :)
[05:14] <Kyral> XtortioN: yah but make sure its NOT mounted
[05:14] <Awesome-o2000> regardless of what I do I cannot get my encryption key set on in iwconfig. I have entered a key but wep does nto seem to be enabling. I beg for help.
[05:15] <XtortioN> k
[05:15] <Low-> anyone know how to Auto Auth on xchat-gnome? and has some time to explain please
[05:15] <Abnix> Sjoerd-: what does your server (apache I presume) logs say?
[05:15] <dr_willis> slew,  http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php     :) hows that for a good answer!
[05:15] <mooreand13213> warbo: there we go
[05:16] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You should apt-get update now
[05:16] <slew> dr_willis, you are a god. =] 
[05:16] <FogleBird> Awesome-o2000: I had to set authmode to 2 using iwpriv
[05:16] <tronica> iamelite, http://itransfer.ath.cx/cedega/
[05:16] <mejobloggs> freaking linux
[05:16] <slew> also found http://www.toms.net/rb/download.html
[05:16] <FogleBird> Awesome-o2000: if it's a shared key encryption
[05:16] <__mikem> mejobloggs, you can't solve problems when you are mad, calm down
[05:16] <Cyberai> can anyone tell me an easy way to set up auto-login, so I don't have to log in every time I boot up, it just logs in for me?
[05:16] <Awesome-o2000> FogleBird, I am using WEP
[05:16] <dr_willis> slew,  'system rescue' cd and   tomsrtbt   are the 2 i normally have copies of - just in case..
[05:17] <Sjoerd-> Abnix: The err.log of the domain is full with: [Sat Jun 24 05:10:21 2006]  [error]  [client 84.87.97.82]  File does not exist: /var/www/kamer-huren.info/icon, referer: http://www.kamer-huren.info/awstats/awstats.pl?config=kamer-huren.info&framename=mainright
[05:17] <dr_willis> slew,  or use slax and build your own
[05:17] <FogleBird> Awesome-o2000: yes, me to
[05:17] <Warbo> Cyberai: System>Administration>Login Window Settings
[05:17] <ScreaminIk1> anyone know how to rip a cd to mp3?
[05:17] <Awesome-o2000> FogleBird, how do I get iwpriv
[05:17] <__mikem> !mp3
[05:17] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:17] <Awesome-o2000> this is unbeleivable - I can't believe I can't turn on the encrytion key in ndiswrapper
[05:17] <Cyberai> sweet Warbo, thanks
[05:17] <mooreand13213> warbo: if im doing all this as a live cd user, will it save it under my already installed copy on the hdd?
[05:17] <tronica> iamelite, let me know when your done so i can take that off
[05:17] <iamelite> tronica: my upload is 1meg :P ;) <X
[05:18] <XtortioN> Kyral, is it supost to out put some thing? doesnt seam to be doing any thing, not even my hd lid is on
[05:18] <FogleBird> Awesome-o2000: should already have it.  I'm not using ndiswrapper though
[05:18] <iamelite> tronica: you got it dude
[05:18] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You will have to mount your HDD system then use "sudo chroot /wherever/you/have/mounted/your/system" to enter your HDD system, then everything you do in that terminal will affect your system
[05:18] <Kyral> XtortioN: it might have finished if it wasn't marked dirty
[05:19] <carlfk> shouldn't apt-get remove nvidia-glx getrid of the binary driver?
[05:19] <Kyral> XtortioN: do "sudo fsck -f /dev/hdb1"
[05:19] <__mikem> doesn't binary drivers taint the kernel
[05:19] <mooreand13213> warbo: so ill have to do that, then redo enabling the universe and apt-get upgrade?
[05:19] <XtortioN> Kyral, yea i didnt do -f but its stald
[05:19] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Yes
[05:20] <ToHellWithGA> hey.  i'm still getting the error that my C sources aren't in usr/src/linux/include
[05:20] <carlfk> __mikem: yeah - and somthing is causing my box to hang
[05:20] <wastrel> still
[05:20] <mooreand13213> warbo: it wont let me mount my hdd
[05:20] <ToHellWithGA> wastrel: still :(
[05:20] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Also, you may want to make sure that your system is using the same kernel version as the live CD (look in /lib/modules in both systems)
[05:20] <ToHellWithGA> matter of fact there's nothing in /usr/src
[05:20] <Warbo> mooreand13213: What is it's devicename?
[05:20] <wastrel> ToHellWithGA:  which file is it looking for?
[05:20] <__mikem> Do you know what program is specificly causing the probleM/
[05:20] <Warbo> mooreand13213: And which partition is /?
[05:21] <slew> which app burns an .img file?
[05:21] <ToHellWithGA> wastrel: in general it's looking for C headers for the kernel
[05:21] <ElBrujo> hey
[05:21] <ToHellWithGA> imma try installing the "linux-source" package
[05:21] <dr_willis> if its a cdrom image - try k3b
[05:21] <Warbo> slew: That sounds like a harddrive or floppy image. Use dd or cat
[05:21] <pvd2006> everyone in #xubuntu-xgl seems to be idle, is there anyone that has some spare time to give me a few basic guidelines on setting up XGL in xubuntu? I've searched google, ubuntu forums, compiz.net forums, can't find anything for xubuntu, only Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I was told to try in here. I've been to #xubuntu and #ubuntu-compiz as well.
[05:21] <ElBrujo> i install Xfce
[05:21] <ToHellWithGA> seems like a logical next step to me
[05:21] <slew> k. i dont have a floppy drive so hopefully i'll be able to put it on a cd.
[05:21] <mooreand13213> warbo: 146.1 gb volume is what it says underneath, and im not sure which partition its on
[05:22] <ToHellWithGA> although i would think, as mike said, that should be in build-essential
[05:22] <wastrel> pvd2006:  afaik ubuntu == xubuntu == kubuntu
[05:22] <mooreand13213> warbo: error: device /dev/sdb1 is not removable
[05:22] <mooreand13213> error: could not execute pmount
[05:22] <farous> dam those property ati drivers one can not do any decent thing with the mi will stick with the open source ones from now on :(
[05:22] <ElBrujo> i install Xfce over my ubuntu
[05:22] <Warbo> mooreand13213: What kind of drive is it? Regular IDE, USB, SATA?
[05:22] <__mikem> ubuntu = ubuntu w/ gnome kubuntu = ubuntu w/ kde xubuntu = ubuntu w/ xfce
[05:22] <mooreand13213> warbo: sata i do believe
[05:22] <ToHellWithGA> pvd2006: it's a package choice.  you can install all of those DEs then pick at the login screen which to use
[05:22] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Ah, sdb1
[05:22] <farous> mooreand13213: does the user have the proper rights set to access cd roms
[05:23] <ElBrujo> and when XFCE start, change the dektop to the nautilus
[05:23] <pvd2006> debs, ok
[05:23] <ElBrujo> i need to fix it
[05:23] <Sjoerd-> Abnix: This line is in my apache2.conf - Alias /awstatsicons "/usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/icon/" and in my and in the awstats config for the domain: DirIcons="/icon" - any idea's?
[05:23] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You may as well do it from a terminal, since you will need one for chroot. Use "sudo umount /dev/sdb1" then "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[05:23] <mooreand13213> warbo: perhaps its not sata, its just a hard drive idk :(
[05:23] <mooreand13213> its not cd rom
[05:24] <durt> ElBrujo: so you dont want desktop icons?
[05:24] <Warbo> mooreand13213: I was after the device name, and you gave me sdb1 so that sounds like SATA
[05:24] <iamelite> tronica: k its done TY my Angelus demonicus
[05:24] <tronica> iamelite, hey no prob, have fun
[05:24] <mooreand13213> ah, gotcha
[05:24] <__mikem> Why did they remodle xubuntu in dapper, I liked the cde look
[05:24] <Warbo> mooreand13213: IDE is hda, hdb, etc. USB, SCSI and SATA are sda, sdb, etc. The partitions are XXX1, XXX2, etc.
[05:25] <dr_willis> __mikem,  aparently you were one of the few.
[05:25] <dr_willis> :P
[05:25] <mooreand13213> warbo: ok
[05:25] <__mikem> :(
[05:25] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Is it mounted on /mnt now?
[05:25] <__mikem> I am a traditionalist, I can't help it
[05:26] <mooreand13213> warbo: yes
[05:26] <Warbo> mooreand13213: OK, "sudo chroot /mnt"
[05:26] <ceruleantiger> anyone familiar with apache on here? I'm a total noob and all the howtos seem to be geared towards intermediate/advanced apache users... Is there a total noob's guide somewhere I'm not looking?
[05:26] <mooreand13213> warbo: done
[05:26] <mario8bit> hi all
[05:26] <mario8bit> is this a good place for ubuntu help?
[05:27] <jmg> what is a prog i can use for renaming/retagging mp3s automatically?
[05:27] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Now use "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:27] <ceruleantiger> mario8bit sure, shoot away
[05:27] <iamelite> tronica: what does this mean "/home/steve/.setup11149: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0:"
[05:27] <dr_willis> jmg,  try apt-cache search mp3  - ooodles of them
[05:27] <jmg> whats the best?
[05:27] <iamelite> tronica: besides my name being steve :D
[05:27] <mooreand13213> warbo: and then what?
[05:27] <tronica> iamelite, you need the libgtk
[05:27] <ElBrujo> durt i want my xfce desktop not the gnome desktop
[05:28] <mario8bit> well I have installed ubuntu 6.06 several times now and each time after setting a few things, updating, getting the nvidia drivers and rebooting a couple times I can no longer login
[05:28] <iamelite> tronica: ahhh of course libgtk
[05:28] <ElBrujo> i fix it change a option in the coonfiguration of destop manager
[05:28] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Enable Universe in that file (ctrl-x to exit, press "y" to save and press enter to keep the same name)
[05:28] <iamelite> tronica: Scratches head*
[05:28] <pvd2006> ok I cant figure out where to get the debs.
[05:28] <\\Roscoe\> mario8bit: Using Automatix?
[05:28] <tronica> iamelite, let me see
[05:28] <ElBrujo> but i need do it all times that i start xfce
[05:29] <mario8bit> hmm not sure, what is Automatix?
[05:29] <Warbo> !automatix
[05:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[05:29] <mooreand13213> warbo:done
[05:29] <Awesome-o2000> I can see my access point. I cannot set the encryption key on. I beg for help. PLEASE, anyone, I beg you to please help me get WEP enabled
[05:29] <__mikem> I once hacked xfce so it would use nautilus, it worked fine. SInce they started using thuner as their wm, theres no need anymore
[05:29] <\\Roscoe\> mario8bit: I guess you're not using it... try using that script to install the common apps and nVidia drivers
[05:29] <ceruleantiger> mario8bit: what are you installing exactly? Oh, and are you using the nvidia-glx package for nvidia or the installer from the nvidia site?
[05:29] <iamelite> A helpful tip to all.... While learning the basics of linux... Keep a bottle of asprine handy. and a 2 liter of Vault... this will dull the pain
[05:29] <farous> !wifi
[05:29] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[05:29] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Now use apt-get update && apt-get install module-assistant
[05:29] <farous> Awesome-o2000: ^ ^ read ubotu link
[05:30] <tronica> iamelite, go into synaptic and install libgtk-1.2
[05:30] <iamelite> tronica: AYE commander!
[05:30] <durt> elbrujo: remember to save the session when you exit
[05:30] <farous> Awesome-o2000: if it is wep encrypted you can use the network-admin application in gnome to set it
[05:30] <__mikem> Well, I am going to bed, I am tired, good night
[05:32] <AndrewRoman> andrrew
[05:32] <AndrewRoman> Helli
[05:32] <AndrewRoman> hello
[05:32] <mario8bit> how do I get Automatix, thru the app installer? and I am just using the nvidia-glx package, not the drivers from their site
[05:33] <Sjoerd-> ubotu can you please help me with my problem.. Awstats doesn't show icons in the stats pages :(
[05:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about can you please help me with my problem.. Awstats doesn't show icons in the stats pages :(
[05:33] <ElBrujo> durt
[05:33] <Sjoerd-> you type fast ubotu
[05:33] <AndrewRoman> Linux can be very difficult to use
[05:33] <mario8bit> as it is now I can get to the login screen and type in my user/pass but then i just get to a blank screen where I can move around the cursor but the desktop doesn't load
[05:33] <ElBrujo> were i save the seesion?
[05:33] <Awesome-o2000> it isnt setting.
[05:33] <AndrewRoman> and Ubuntu dosent change that
[05:33] <Awesome-o2000> I can set it in the apps
[05:34] <Awesome-o2000> but when I run iwconfig it says encryption key off
[05:34] <mooreand13213> warbo: couldn't find package module-assistant
[05:34] <ElBrujo> durt were i save the sesion?
[05:34] <durt> elbrujo: doesn't xfce prompt you to save it when you try to quit?
[05:34] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You sure you enabled universe?
[05:34] <AndrewRoman> Can I Open RPM Packages with Ubuntu?
[05:34] <Warbo> !tell mooreand13213 about universe
[05:34] <ElBrujo> nop
[05:35] <Sjoerd-> !tell Sjoerd- about awstats
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about awstats
[05:35] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: Use alien to turn it into a deb
[05:35] <durt> go to the settings manager -> sessions and startup, and choose "prompt"
[05:35] <iamelite> tronica: Sucessful installation, i prolly should however... reboot for the Glrx drivers.
[05:35] <dr3wster> does anyone here know php?
[05:35] <AndrewRoman> Where d I get Alien? (Sorry Im new!)
[05:35] <mike__> what program do i use to open .deb files with?
[05:35] <tronica> iamelite, just restart X ctl+alt+backspace
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> woW!! AIGLX is cool
[05:35] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: Synaptic Package Manager
[05:36] <AndrewRoman> alright Im checking it out
[05:36] <wastrel> why are you telling a total newb to alien an rpm when you don't even know what the rpm is, & it's probably in the repos
[05:36] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: If you don't know that then you probably don't know about Ubuntu packages. Check in Synaptic that your RPM isn;t already in Ubuntu
[05:36] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: Also...
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> as a deb...
[05:36] <Warbo> !tell AndrewRoman about universe
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> for future reference, the problem i had with vmware installation was related to the package "linux-headers" for my specific kernel.  to get the right headers the command i used was "sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r)"
[05:37] <asathoor> hi
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> if anybody asks about that in here, now i (and whoever read that) will have that in an IRC log
[05:37] <asathoor> i just upgraded to 6.06 - now there are 3 kernels on my pc - how can I remove the deprecated?
[05:38] <jeska> er, can anyone help me with write permissions on a slave drive?
[05:38] <Warbo> ToHellWithGA: Thank goodness for that. I have put build-essential and linux-headers<kernel version> in every Wiki guide I have written, so at least now I know that build-essential doesn't install them anyway (I wasn't sure)
[05:38] <Hobbsee> asathoor: remove linux-image-whatever from synaptic - but it's a good idea to keep old kernels anyway
[05:39] <mooreand13213> warbo: installed it through synaptic package manager
[05:39] <Warbo> jeska: If it is NTFS then it can't be done
[05:39] <asathoor> thanx hobbsee
[05:39] <Warbo> mooreand13213: NOOOOO!
[05:39] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You have to do it in the chrooted terminal!
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> Warbo: i find it very odd that my kernel version is blahblahblah386
[05:39] <jeska> ah, damn it. thanks, Warbo
[05:39] <mooreand13213> warbo: darn
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> i'd think there would be a 686 build since i use a pentium 4 processor
[05:39] <mooreand13213> it wouldnt work at terminal
[05:39] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, just install the 686
[05:40] <Warbo> mooreand13213: The terminal is in your HDD system (with chroot) but Synaptic is in the CD's system
[05:40] <mooreand13213> warbo: says it cant find it
[05:40] <fiyawerx> anyone know the command to check your fps with glxgears?
[05:40] <ToHellWithGA> tronica: i can install a 686 kernel?
[05:40] <ToHellWithGA> also, would i benefit from using that kernel?
[05:40] <mooreand13213> warbo: that makes sense, didnt think of that
[05:40] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, if its a HT proc then get the smp kernel
[05:40] <Warbo> mooreand13213: pastebin the sources.list please (from the terminal one)
[05:40] <AndrewRoman> Warbo: I searched for it and it told me to use Alien
[05:40] <Kibou> fiyawerx: glxgears -printfps
[05:40] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: If you have universe you should see alien as a package in Syanptic
[05:40] <AndrewRoman> I guess you were right
[05:41] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, heres guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917
[05:41] <fiyawerx> Kibou: thank you
[05:41] <ceruleantiger> mario8bit: well, I have no idea... you stumped me
[05:41] <gray> hi all, i have a question about file permissions (set user id, set group id ... i think)
[05:41] <mooreand13213> warbo: how do i do that? (sorry for all of my stoopid questions)
[05:41] <gray> so im setting up an ftp server, and i have a directory /share where users will store their files
[05:41] <Warbo> mooreand13213: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" then copy and paste that into.......
[05:41] <Warbo> !pastebin
[05:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:41] <gray> i've done a chown ftp:ftp /share
[05:41] <AndrewRoman> Im installing it now thanks
[05:41] <siriusnova_> woops
[05:41] <fiyawerx> Kibou: is 654 FPS full screen ok? no sure how these are rated
[05:42] <s|k> can I install a 'slackware package' on ubuntu?
[05:42] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, is your processor have hyper threading
[05:42] <gray> how do i set it up such that, all new files created in that folder belong to the ftp user and group?
[05:42] <ToHellWithGA> kthx.  i see 2.4.27-2-686.smp
[05:42] <siriusnova_> lol
[05:42] <ToHellWithGA> it is
[05:42] <siriusnova_> my comp froze :X
[05:42] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, you want the 2.6 kernel
[05:42] <siriusnova_> who was i talking to earlier?
[05:42] <mooreand13213> warbo: done
[05:42] <mejobloggs> .
[05:43] <siriusnova> moore - was it you?
[05:43] <siriusnova> mejobloggs
[05:43] <Kibou> fiyawerx: depends.. sounds rather low though.. but glxgears is not a benchmark, so I don't know
[05:43] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Post the URL of the site please (the one with your text on)
[05:43] <Kibou> fiyawerx: check if direct rendering is enabled
[05:43] <llama32> mooooo
[05:43] <fiyawerx> Kibou: oh, im running a geforce 6600 gt pci-e too, hmm
[05:43] <cwillu> any way to make the arrows on the menus point the other direction?
[05:43] <fiyawerx> Kibou: not sure how to, i just installed the nvidia-glx drivers from repo
[05:43] <mooreand13213> warbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16349
[05:43] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Thanks
[05:43] <mooreand13213> warbo: np
[05:44] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, isntall the 2.6 kernel
[05:44] <ToHellWithGA> i'm curious, why would i have found a package for 2.4.27 when everything is running on 2.6.15 now?  i didn't install it and used the guide tronica suggested instead
[05:44] <Dial_tone> vmware is faster on ubuntu than XP. i didn't expect that.
[05:44] <Kibou> fiyawerx: did you change your xorg.conf?
[05:44] <AndrewRoman> I SURE AS HELL LOVE LINUX
[05:44] <ToHellWithGA> !language
[05:44] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:44] <fiyawerx> Kibou: I let the nvidia do it
[05:44] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, not sure why the 2.4's are still there.
[05:44] <ToHellWithGA> 2.6 is stable, innit?
[05:44] <fiyawerx> Kibou: with sudo nvidia-glx-config enable command
[05:44] <nekostar> whats the package to edit menus
[05:45] <nekostar> in gnome ?
[05:45] <Cornellius> Is there a quick way to see who much free space we have left HD ?
[05:45] <tronica> ToHellWithGA, its very stable
[05:45] <ToHellWithGA> it's not like 2.6.whatever_ubuntu_uses is a dev build :P
[05:45] <Kibou> fiyawerx: never tried that.. I always did it manually
[05:45] <ToHellWithGA> thanks tronica
[05:45] <gray> does anyone have any advice regarding my file permissions?
[05:45] <fiyawerx> ToHellWithGA: I'm using 2.6.15-25-686, havn't had any problems, just had to add the restricted modules so my wifi card worked
[05:45] <gray> :)
[05:45] <cwillu> ToHellWithGA: even numbers on the second digit are stable series (2.4, 2.6, 2.8 (when it happens), etc)
[05:45] <fiyawerx> Kibou: oh, hmm, not too sure what i'd be looking for manually in there hehe
[05:45] <Warbo> mooreand13213: OK, take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16350 (you uncommented the "backports" of universe, but not the main bit)
[05:46] <mooreand13213> warbo: thats what i thought after looking at it again
[05:46] <Kibou> fiyawerx: just check if driver is "nvidia" in your xorg.conf and 'glxinfo | grep direct' to check if direct rendering is enabled
[05:46] <fiyawerx> direct rendoring: Yes
[05:46] <Sivik> how do i get the broadcom drivers to give me an ip address, i am able to do a iwlist scan and see the ap and able to get an ap via iwconfig but i can't get a ip address doing dhcp
[05:47] <mooreand13213> warbo: fixed
[05:47] <Warbo> mooreand13213: OK, have you got module-assistant installed in chroot?
[05:47] <Kibou> fiyawerx: looks like everything is fine then.. although I get like 10000 or so in glxgears with my agp 6600gt
[05:47] <fiyawerx> hmm
[05:47] <fiyawerx> full screen?
[05:47] <mooreand13213> warbo: i am in the process
[05:47] <Kibou> no
[05:47] <Kibou> default size
[05:47] <wastrel> gray:  these files are being created by the ftp server?  or by shell users
[05:47] <AndrewRoman> Now how do i run Alien
[05:47] <fiyawerx> oh
[05:47] <fiyawerx> i was running full screen hehe
[05:47] <Kibou> !
[05:47] <Sivik> Kibou, nice
[05:48] <Sivik> Kibou: i get almost 4k with my 6600
[05:48] <fiyawerx> 1280x1040
[05:48] <fiyawerx> im getting 7500 fps normal
[05:48] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: Put the RPM in your home folder, open a terminal and put "sudo alien *.rpm"
[05:48] <Sivik> fiyawerx, what kind of card
[05:48] <Kibou> all fine then
[05:48] <fiyawerx> nvidia 6600gt pci-express 128mb
[05:49] <fiyawerx> with the nvidia-glx drivers from repo
[05:49] <mooreand13213> warbo: still couldnt find it
[05:49] <fiyawerx> yeah 7500-7600 if i don't resize the glxgears window
[05:49] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You have to apt-get update
[05:49] <Sivik> why would anyone have rpm installed in ubuntu?
[05:49] <fiyawerx> 650fps @ 1280x1024
[05:49] <dddmt> hey i have a tpx31 and i installed tpb, and the onscreen display for the buttons that used to be ubuntu themed is gone
[05:49] <fiyawerx> cool, this makes me happy
[05:49] <dddmt> how do i get it back?
[05:50] <dddmt> i dont like tpb
[05:50] <mooreand13213> warbo: i did that first
[05:50] <fiyawerx> too bad i don't have any games to try on here, lol
[05:50] <siriusnova> darn
[05:50] <mooreand13213> warbo: " sudo apt-get install module-assistant" this correct?
[05:50] <siriusnova> we just lost someone because bzflag wouldn't work
[05:50] <siriusnova> :/
[05:50] <Cyberai> sweet Warbo, thanks
[05:50] <Kibou> fiyawerx: enemy territory is a quick download :P
[05:51] <Cyberai> could anyone tell me how to go about removing a kernel module that was installed from source?
[05:51] <mario8bit> would running the x86 version on a dual core opteron be causing a problem with login?
[05:51] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You sure? I get this: "module-assistant - tool to make module package creation easier" when I search for it
[05:51] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You don;t need the sudo actually
[05:51] <asathoor> is it possible to resize partitions?
[05:52] <asathoor> i use ubuntu 6.06
[05:52] <AndrewRoman> Wow all i wanted to do was install LimeWire but you need to have Java installed and when i installed it yesterday it wasnt good enough and now i have to reinstall it LOL!!
[05:52] <dddmt> does anybody know what im talking about? whats it called when the volume control is overlayed on the screen
[05:52] <Warbo> mooreand13213: "apt-cache search module-ass" try that (lol, ass.)
[05:52] <fiyawerx> on screen display?
[05:52] <AndrewRoman> Waiting for it to download it now
[05:53] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"
[05:53] <mooreand13213> warbo: vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25 - vmware-player modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15)
[05:53] <dddmt> yeah how do i get the ubuntu osd back?
[05:53] <Warbo> mooreand13213: That's it? Wow, weird
[05:54] <Warbo> mooreand13213: I'll give you my sources.list, see if that works
[05:54] <Steven_M> hi, do any of you use emelfm?
[05:54] <mooreand13213> warbo: k
[05:54] <pawel> I use emelfm occasionly
[05:54] <pvd2006> where do you find your xessions again?
[05:54] <pvd2006> the scripts
[05:55] <AndrewRoman> Was i making it more difficult then it needed to be? LOL!!1
[05:56] <Sjoerd-> Anyone using awstats that knows how to get the thing show icons?
[05:56] <dddmt> ok how do i enable ubuntus osd?
[05:56] <Sivik> mooreand13213, thats only to play a vm, not to install one or create one
[05:57] <Warbo> mooreand13213: This is mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16352 You can make a new file and paste that in, then "mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup" then "mv whateveryoucalledthenewfile /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:57] <mooreand13213> warbo:
[05:57] <mooreand13213> warbo: k
[05:57] <KhZilla> creating a vm without vmware is easy
[05:57] <Madpilot> greetings, Ubuntubers
[05:57] <Sivik> KhZilla, how?
[05:57] <Warbo> mooreand13213 is actually looking for module-assistant
[05:57] <KhZilla> there are a couple of websites that will create the images
[05:57] <KhZilla> as well as qemu
[05:57] <Sivik> ok
[05:57] <Warbo> nothing to do with vmware
[05:57] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, if i downloaded a dapper cd today would it have all the updates since the release?
[05:57] <KhZilla> has a tool to create vmware images
[05:58] <Sivik> is it easy to create a vm with gemu?
[05:58] <wastrel> yoshiznit123:  i don't think so
[05:58] <KhZilla> qemu? loads of stuff on google about it
[05:58] <Warbo> gemu? Is that a GUI?
[05:58] <AndrewRoman> I need to get a book on Linux....
[05:58] <yoshiznit123> wastrel, k thanks :-)
[05:58] <Sivik> AndrewRoman, why?
[05:59] <AndrewRoman> So i can learn all these commands
[05:59] <Warbo> AndrewRoman: "man" gives you a manual for a command (try "man man")
[05:59] <yoshiznit123> maan....
[05:59] <KhZilla> http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/vmware-player-image-creation.php
[05:59] <wastrel> AndrewRoman:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:59] <Madpilot> AndrewRoman, O'Reilly do great Linux books for command line stuff
[05:59] <KhZilla> it's pretty sweet. works well.
[05:59] <AndrewRoman> Thx ill check it out
[05:59] <iiiears> http://linuxquestions.org/
[05:59] <mooreand13213> warbo: what program do i use to make the file?
[05:59] <Sivik> AndrewRoman, there is a book that has all kinds of commands in it, its called Universal Command Guide
[06:00] <KhZilla> it loads up with an empty image and you boot up, pop in your windows CD and begin install.
[06:00] <Sivik> mooreand13213, what kind of file?
[06:00] <AndrewRoman> Sweet
[06:00] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Just nano
[06:00] <Sivik> or gedit or vi
[06:00] <Warbo> mooreand13213: "nano filename"
[06:00] <Warbo> Sivik: Gedit? in a console?
[06:00] <AndrewRoman> I still have 10 minutes left for java to install
[06:00] <Healot> !info dosemu
[06:00] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3build1 (dapper), package size 877 kB, installed size 2024 kB
[06:00] <AndrewRoman> its downloading
[06:00] <Sivik> Warbo: didn't know he was using a console
[06:00] <Sivik> vi will work
[06:00] <KhZilla> for kicks, I have vmware-player running windows XP without X.
[06:01] <KhZilla> and I turn on RDP on the XP machine
[06:01] <Sivik> KhZilla, now thats funny
[06:01] <Warbo> Sivik: Well, in a chroot in an X server which does not allow external connections, so effectively in a console
[06:01] <wastrel> i'm sleepy
[06:01] <mooreand13213> warbo: when i pasted, the numbers went above the text, is this fine or no?
[06:01] <Sivik> Warbo: ok, didn't know he was in there, but vi will work as well
[06:01] <KhZilla> it's suprisingly fast
[06:01] <Sivik> KhZilla, how does that work
[06:01] <AndrewRoman> Whats fun is going into gedit and changing the messages in limewire
[06:01] <KhZilla> use xvfb
[06:01] <KhZilla> x virtual frame buffer
[06:02] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You don't really want any numbers in it
[06:02] <KhZilla> it's like a "screen" but for X
[06:02] <KhZilla> allows you to run X apps without X.
[06:02] <mooreand13213> wrbo: gotcha, they were there in the pastebin though
[06:02] <Sivik> KhZilla, but that is an X
[06:02] <KhZilla> without the overhead of running a full X server
[06:03] <Warbo> KhZilla: nanox :)
[06:03] <Warbo> KhZilla: (fits on a floppy)
[06:03] <KhZilla> without having the output go to a graphics output
[06:03] <Steven_M> KhZilla: does it improve running speed at much?
[06:03] <KhZilla> I think it does
[06:04] <KhZilla> since when I RDP into the windows machine, the performance is very impressive
[06:04] <KhZilla> hard to thell it's a virtual machine
[06:04] <dddmt> ok does ANYBODY know how i can get my ubuntu On-Screen display back without reinstalling?
[06:04] <Cornellius> Is there a quick way to see who much free space we have left HD ?<
[06:04] <Warbo> df
[06:04] <KhZilla> I run it on a GUI-less machine
[06:05] <Warbo> Cornellius: ^
[06:05] <wastrel> Cornellius:  df or df -h
[06:05] <DrKevorkian> I've been having problems with getting flash player working in ubuntu. I get the animation usually but never any audio.
[06:05] <mooreand13213> warbo: done
[06:05] <KhZilla> with gdm incase I want to remotely log in via X
[06:05] <wastrel> dddmt:  what did you do to it?
[06:05] <Steven_M> got to remember that when I when I get vmware.
[06:05] <Warbo> mooreand13213: You have module-assistant?
[06:05] <Cornellius> oh, sorry
[06:05] <mooreand13213> warbo: apt-get updateing
[06:05] <Cornellius> thanks
[06:05] <Warbo> mooreand13213: k
[06:05] <KhZilla> yeah actually it's much faster than having the vm machine open...
[06:05] <KhZilla> and on screen
[06:05] <dddmt> wastrel: i installed TPB without realizing ubuntu already served the pourpose with its own already themed osd things
[06:05] <KhZilla> the mouse was messed up...
[06:06] <KhZilla> and very sluggish
[06:06] <dddmt> wastrel: i want to know the package name that will fix it :P
[06:06] <KhZilla> but when I run it vmware plaer with xvfb and RDP in, it's really good.
[06:06] <wastrel> dddmt:  tpb ?
[06:07] <wastrel> dddmt:  there's a tpb package, i mean
[06:07] <KhZilla> also. sound comes across from the virtual machine too. which is crazy.
[06:07] <ToHellWithGA> back again, vmware trouble again. "vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured"
[06:07] <ToHellWithGA> !vmware
[06:07] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[06:07] <mooreand13213> warbo: alright, got module assistant
[06:07] <KhZilla> have they fixed the vmware with the new kernel?
[06:07] <KhZilla> or released a new package?
[06:07] <Warbo> mooreand13213: yay
[06:07] <dddmt> wastrel: no i want the ubuntu one. you probally dont know what im talking about because youre not on a laptop.
[06:07] <Warbo> mooreand13213: run "m-a"
[06:07] <mooreand13213> warbo:lol
[06:08] <AndrewRoman> Everybody check out www.LinuxISO.org
[06:08] <mooreand13213> warbo:k
[06:08] <wastrel> dddmt:  thinkpad t42
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> KhZilla: pardon me?  was there a problem with the new kernel and vmware?
[06:08] <Warbo> mooreand13213: prepare
[06:08] <dddmt> wastrel: ubuntu fully detected my buttons when i installed it. it had slick looking osd
[06:08] <Steven_M> KhZilla: may I ask you some questions about vmware in a pvt chat?
[06:08] <dddmt> wastrel: tpb looks like shit
[06:08] <wastrel> for volume yes i like it
[06:08] <KhZilla> yeah there was. kernel modules
[06:08] <wastrel> but the brightness display doesn't work.
[06:08] <mooreand13213> warbo: k
[06:08] <KhZilla> from .13 weren't in .15
[06:08] <dddmt> wastrel: i want the old one back
[06:08] <DrKevorkian> does nobody else have this problem? I got flash working in windows on same computer but on ubuntu i can't get any audio
[06:08] <ToHellWithGA> Steven_M: unless they're really private i'd like to hear any info about it
[06:08] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Select and press space on nvidia
[06:09] <KhZilla> Steven_M, sure.
[06:09] <dddmt> wastrel: who needs brightness display?
[06:09] <dddmt> wastrel: i want the ubuntu volume display back
[06:09] <mooreand13213> warbo: its downloading a package, just  a minute
[06:09] <wastrel> k i'mna sniff around a bit.
[06:10] <Low-> WHATS A GOOD IMAGE MOUNTING APP
[06:10] <Low-> oops
[06:10] <Steven_M> ok for ToHellWithGA's benefit I will ask them in main
[06:10] <KhZilla> vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko if I recall were missing in the kernel modules of the newest kernel
[06:10] <ToHellWithGA> thanks, baby ;)
[06:10] <Warbo> Low-: Ermmmm... mount?
[06:10] <Low-> iso mount
[06:10] <Low-> like deamon tools
[06:10] <Warbo> Low-: Just "mount imagename /mountpoint -o loop"
[06:10] <dddmt> wastrel: k so theres no way to get it back? oh well. how do i get tpb -d to startup?
[06:10] <Low-> k
[06:11] <wastrel> dddmt:  i dunno - i haven't actually looked at  this before - checking my system to see how it's handled.
[06:12] <Steven_M> KhZilla: I'm a slow typer but I type out my first question now
[06:13] <mooreand13213> warbo: what after prepareing?
[06:13] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Select
[06:14] <Warbo> mooreand13213: go down to nvidia and press space, then enter
[06:14] <mooreand13213> warbo: nvidia-kernel?
[06:14] <Warbo> mooreand13213: yes
[06:14] <mooreand13213> warbo: then?
[06:14] <efox> hey everyone
[06:14] <Warbo> mooreand13213: get and then build (it will ask if you want to install, say yes)
[06:15] <Warbo> hey
[06:15] <efox> i actually  DONT have a question tonite
[06:15] <efox> thats right, im loitering tonite
[06:15] <Warbo> efox: You just like the personalities :)
[06:16] <efox> Warbo: ;)
[06:16] <efox> Warbo: im actually hoping i can learn some things that i dont even know bout just by watchin
[06:17] <efox> like someone is gonna say that you can do this and that with ubuntu and that will get my curiosity going
[06:17] <mooreand13213> warbo: done
[06:17] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Intalled?
[06:17] <mooreand13213> warbo: i do believe
[06:17] <Warbo> mooreand13213: OK. Exit it then do "nano /etc/modules"
[06:18] <mooreand13213> warbo: then what?
[06:18] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Look for a line which just saya "nvidia" if there isn't one then put one there and exit
[06:19] <mooreand13213> warbo: done
[06:19] <linuxmaier> do i need any drivers for the GeForce 7300 GS video card?
[06:19] <Warbo> mooreand13213: OK. Check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make sure it has nvidia instead of nv
[06:20] <Warbo> !tell linuxmaier about nvidia
[06:20] <zerboxx> is there any way to configure the intel integrated laptop video 'card' in ubuntu?
[06:20] <Warbo> linuxmaier: They are not needed, but they let you have 3D stuff
[06:20] <linuxmaier> which is always a plus!
[06:21] <mooreand13213> warbo: where would nvidia be located in that file?
[06:21] <AndrewRoman> THANKS WARBO I GOT MY LIMEWIRE TO RUN!
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> i just had an odd but possibly good idea
[06:21] <ToHellWithGA> could i just download a virtual machine for some OS about which i don't care then run it in vmware and reconfigure it to install XP?
[06:21] <Warbo> mooreand13213: in the Device section somewhere under the mouse and keyboard which has some kind of graphics card in it's name
[06:21] <nicknakestaken> the last two times I went afk in ubuntu, I come back to a frozen computer with screensaver up
[06:21] <nicknakestaken> my computer is totally stable in xp
[06:21] <nicknakestaken> any ideas?
[06:22] <mooreand13213> warbo: change driver "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:22] <mooreand13213> "
[06:22] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Yes
[06:22] <mooreand13213> ?
[06:22] <mooreand13213> warbo: ok
[06:22] <Warbo> mooreand13213: Save and you are done
[06:22] <Madpilot> nicknakestaken, try disabling the screensaver and just having the screen blank - and maybe file a bug against 6.06's gnome-screensaver
[06:23] <mooreand13213> wabro: thats it?
[06:23] <Josh43> Ok, I have a question about a semi-exotic setup, and I'm hoping that there is a howto somewhere; I have xgl running, but I want a second session running with the regular xorg that I can log into via vnc on the local machine
[06:24] <Warbo> mooreand13213: One POSSIBLE problem might be that the module-assistant used the wrong kernel (since the chroot was still running in the LiveCD's kernel). If that is the case then you may need to rerun module-assistant from within your own HDD setup (in a console). You have already downloaded all of the needed packages though, so it shouldn't take long if you do have to
[06:24] <ToHellWithGA> Josh43: "semi"?
[06:24] <ToHellWithGA> :P
[06:24] <Steven_M> KhZilla: I no nothing about vmware from a technical view  point because I haven't been able try it yet because my tux laptop specks aren't that good. I'm going to get a new desktop to run linux on, I'm wondering what sort of specs I need to run decent games under XP under vmware?
[06:24] <mooreand13213> warbo: thanks man, ur a lifesaver
[06:25] <Josh43> ToHellWithGA, Lol - granted.. my point is that it seems (to me), to be a logical solution to vnc-ing to an xgl machine
[06:25] <KhZilla> I don't think running games under vmware would work very well
[06:25] <azureal> hi, i'm trying to resize my ubuntu partition, so i booted up a knoppix livecd and ran qtparted....but it says that sda3 is busy.. i think it's umounted, though..
[06:25] <ToHellWithGA> isn't the visual bit of vnc just a screen capture?
[06:25] <KhZilla> it's more suited to server software and office software
[06:26] <ToHellWithGA> i'd see no issues with using a fancier/more complex screen if it's just doing more screen captures
[06:26] <Josh43> azureal, Knoppix auto-mounts local drives usually
[06:26] <Warbo> Steven_M: I don't know if VMWare lets programs use accelerated 3D (either DirectX or OpenGL) so you would probably need something more powerful than is available to the home user
[06:26] <ToHellWithGA> can it not capture the screen of an xgl session?
[06:26] <azureal> josh43: yea, it has all the drives on the desktop -- i right-clicked and unmounted sda3....
[06:26] <Warbo> Steven_M: http://www.power.org
[06:26] <KhZilla> yeah. I don't think DirectX is supported...
[06:26] <Josh43> ToHellWithGA, THe problem is that it doesn't caputre what is put to the screen; it captures the driver output before it's seen on the screen.. it freaks on xgl
[06:26] <azureal> josh43: in qtparted sda3 is the only drive that i cannot resize....
[06:27] <KhZilla> vmware is worthwhile for running... MS SQL server, IIS or even .NET stuff...
[06:27] <deshantm_> azureal, try: the mount command
[06:27] <KhZilla> but graphic intensive programs like games would eat it alive
[06:27] <Steven_M> KhZilla: oh that's sad
[06:27] <nanotalk> hi, is edubuntu comes with live cd too?
[06:27] <Warbo> MySQL, Mono and er.. don't know the other one
[06:27] <Josh43> azureal, yeah, try it on the command line (sudo mount/umount)
[06:27] <azureal> deshant: you mean umount?
[06:28] <KhZilla> sad it is.
[06:28] <deshantm_> azureal, sudo mount will tell you what is mounted
[06:28] <KhZilla> I have my laptop dedicated to windows so I can game...
[06:28] <deshantm_> azureal, sudom umount /dev/blah will umount blah
[06:28] <Warbo> XEN would allow access to the graphics hardware I think. However, there is no XEN support in Windows
[06:29] <deshantm_> nanotalk, edubuntu has its own cds
[06:29] <deshantm_> !edubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[06:29] <fiyawerx> anyone good at getting sound working? amarokk will play things like streams, but i can't hear anything no matter what i try
[06:29] <azureal> sudo mount returns vague answers
[06:30] <KhZilla> my vmware machine doesn't even have a graphics card...
[06:30] <garryF> Is anyone else getting messages that their nick is owned by someone else every few days and eventually, you have to re-register? What channel do I go to or who do I message to stop this every few days?? Sorry for the off topicness.
[06:30] <azureal> there are no specific sda* in the output....
[06:30] <net_benjo> can some one point me in the right direction....my fonts in Firefox are small and uneven and generally not nice looking.......I've installed ttf fonts using Automatix....thanks?
[06:30] <nanotalk> deshantm_, no live cd?
[06:30] <KhZilla> although the built in pinball game worked well
[06:30] <KhZilla> :-)
[06:30] <deshantm_> nanotalk, i would assume the desktop one is a live cd... haven't tried it yet
[06:30] <azureal> garryF: you may have your client /msg nickserv identify <password>  upon startup
[06:31] <mikeo1> how do i restore grub after windows vista took over
[06:31] <mikeo1> to dual boot
[06:31] <garryF> azureal Yeah, that's what I do, but eventually, it fails and won't  recognize me.
[06:31] <deshantm_> nanotalk, http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/6.06/
[06:31] <Warbo> net_benjo: Just a word of caution, my Firefox REALLY screwed up when I last gave it a TrueType font (although not one from msttcorefonts) and I couldn't open it in order to change it. Also it screwed up Epiphany and Galeon, since they both use Firefox for their rendering
[06:32] <net_benjo> i tried installing suse10.1 just to see how firefox fox would look..and they were much smoother....ofcourse i don't want to use suse..
[06:32] <deshantm_> nanotalk, the desktop cd is live and lets you optionally install
[06:32] <Steven_M> Warbo: would I be able to play most windows games directly off xen pretty well?
[06:32] <nanotalk> deshantm_, okay
[06:32] <net_benjo> Warbo: thanks...i'll keep that in mind..
[06:32] <Josh43> Steven_M, OpenGL, maybe: directX; definately not
[06:32] <azureal> garryF: i never get that problem w/ xchat, for example...
[06:32] <Warbo> Steven_M: XEN will let you run 50 different Linux's pretty well, but no Windows's
[06:32] <efox> anyone in here into electronics and embedded C programming ?
[06:33] <deshantm_> mikeo1, boot from a live CD and run grub
[06:33] <mikeo1> will it detect all the windows installations too
[06:33] <garryF> Ok, I guess I'll try emailing the folks from xchat or freenode.
[06:33] <Warbo> (AA what terrible use of apostrophies)
[06:33] <efox> I'm looking for a decent PIC microcontroller programmer, and maybe a decent SPICE program
[06:33] <mikeo1> and will any live cd work?
[06:33] <azureal> deshantm_: so yea... i can't resize that partition in qtparted...as if it is busy or something
[06:33] <garryF> azureal Thanks for trying.
[06:34] <net_benjo> Warbo: did you ever figure out how to make Firefox fonts smooth...it seems that not too many pple have this problem...not much info on ubuntu forum abut this issue..
[06:34] <linuxmaier> umm... i just pressed the control key and the minus key at the same time. it made the terminal i was in shrink. how do i reverse the effect?
[06:34] <Warbo> net_benjo: I use Epiphany rather than Firefox, but in the preferences you can choose your preferred fonts (in Firefox I mean)
[06:34] <deshantm_> azureal, is it mounted though? after the umount did you restart qtparted and your are running as sudo/root right?
[06:35] <Steven_M> I thought the point of xen was to run windows apps under linux
[06:35] <mikeo1> so all i type is grub from the live cd?
[06:35] <deshantm_> mike01, you will just need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file...
[06:35] <mikeo1> and it will detect windows and restore the bootloader
[06:35] <aspro> linuxmaier:  and plus/equals?
[06:35] <Warbo> Steven_M: The point of XEN is to run LOADS of Linuxs at once, so for example a web-serving company can give each customer their own Linux setup but they would only need a few servers
[06:35] <aspro> control and*
[06:35] <deshantm_> mikeo1, also you will need configure grub
[06:36] <net_benjo> Warbo: I do that...I chose Verdana fotns...i set it up exactly like i do under xp....but it doesn't look nowhere as nice in Ubuntu.....this is kinda annoying since i use Firefox the most out of all apps.
[06:36] <mikeo1> how do i do that
[06:36] <linuxmaier> aspro: plus/equals didnt work, but for some odd reason, cntrl 0/) worked ;)
[06:36] <deshantm_> mikeo1, what you need to run after running grub at the grub prompt will be something like:
[06:36] <Zen> I need to partition and format a drive.  Where/what do I use to do that?
[06:36] <Zen> in 6.06
[06:36] <aspro> heh
[06:36] <deshantm_> mikeo1, setup (hd0,X)
[06:36] <Warbo> net_benjo: Have you checked in the System>Preferences>Fonts for the way they are rendered?
[06:36] <Steven_M> oh ok
[06:37] <mikeo1> what if 2 drives are sata
[06:37] <deshantm_> mikeo1, oops i mean root (hd0,X)
[06:37] <net_benjo> Warbo: no...should I? I'll do that now...
[06:37] <deshantm_> and then setup (hd0)
[06:37] <mikeo1> ok
[06:37] <zoggynog> can anyone point a newb in the direction of getting wmv9 files running under 64 bit iso?
[06:37] <azureal> deshantm_: it is /dev/sda3, type ext3, supposed to be mounted on /, and in qtparted it under 'Label' it has /media/sda3
[06:37] <Warbo> Steven_M: You could run Windows and Linux at the same time on XEN if micro$haft supported XEN, or if they opened up the Windows kernel to let others add support (which will NEVER happen)
[06:37] <deshantm_> where X corresponds to the partition number
[06:38] <Warbo> net_benjo: You can tell it "I want really clear lines" "I want really smooth outlines" "I want really accurate shapes" etc.
[06:38] <deshantm_> hda1 = (hd0,0) hda2 = (hd0,1)
[06:38] <Zen> deshantm_: is there a partitioning/formatting app in Ubuntu 6.06?
[06:38] <Warbo> Zen: GParted
[06:38] <Warbo> !gparted
[06:38] <mikeo1> ok
[06:38] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:38] <matthewmcvickar> Hello!
[06:39] <Steven_M> How good would cedega run windows games, if I had a good grapics card recignised by linux?
[06:39] <deshantm_> azureal try umount -l /dev/sda3 then restart qtparted
[06:39] <Zen> thanks
[06:39] <azureal> Warbo: but gparted can't change your current partition mounted on /
[06:39] <Warbo> azureal: Hence the link to the CD :)
[06:39] <zoggynog> let me rephrase my question, is it possible to get wmv9 running under he amd(64 bit) distro?
[06:39] <mikeo1> what if / is on sdb2
[06:39] <Dial_tone> where did I see that option to make gmail the default mailto: app for firefox?
[06:39] <Zen> just looking to utilize some free space as a win/lin shared ext3 download partition
[06:39] <matthewmcvickar> I was in the middle of a rather large Ubuntu update and the computer was shut down
[06:39] <Warbo> zoggynog: linux32
[06:39] <squiggly> Zen: give me back my pancakes
[06:39] <azureal> Warbo: knoppix livecd won't work for this purpose?
[06:39] <matthewmcvickar> How do I resume that update?
[06:40] <linuxmaier> Steven_M: i use cedega and i works really well for me. they patch it frequently to fix problems and the software works for many games
[06:40] <Healot> Steven_M: goto cedega website, and check out the games compatibility list
[06:40] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> where can i get libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0?
[06:40] <Warbo> zoggynog: Lets you run 32bit stuff
[06:40] <net_benjo> Warbo: thanks for that....i changed my setting from 'best shapes' to 'subpixel smoothing (LCD's)'...but i don't notice any difference...you think i have to restart gnome
[06:40] <matthewmcvickar> The icon in the kicker won't show up
[06:40] <mikeo1> its installed on the 2nd partition of my 2nd sata disk
[06:40] <Zen> they weren't very good anyway :(
[06:40] <Warbo> azureal: KNOPPIX is 700MB, GParted disc is about 30MB
[06:40] <azureal> deshantm_: umount: /dev/sda3: not mounted          (as i thought/said)
[06:40] <zoggynog> Warbo: you mean as in my only option is to install the 32 bit version?
[06:40] <Zen> dry
[06:40] <Warbo> zoggynog: NO, linux32 will let you run 32bit code
[06:41] <deshantm_> matthewmcvickar, sudo dpkg -a configure && sudo apt-get blah that you were doing before
[06:41] <azureal> Warbo: oh! that's brilliant! a separate cd for it so you won't have to worry about having anything mounted!
[06:41] <zoggynog> warbo: thanks, excuse the newbness...I'll go research it!
[06:41] <matthewmcvickar> deshantm_:  thank you
[06:41] <matthewmcvickar> deshantm_: I don't know which packages it was, though
[06:42] <azureal> Warbo: I always feel horrible about burning 30mb to a 700mb cd...
[06:42] <Warbo> azureal: As long as they don't put an automounter at boot...
[06:42] <Warbo> azureal: CDRW is your friend
[06:42] <azureal> Warbo: oh?
[06:42] <drogers> is ubuntu all open source?  i am new
[06:42] <Warbo> drogers: yes
[06:42] <deshantm_> mathwemcvickar, dpkg and apt will figure it out
[06:42] <drogers> Warbo, cool
[06:42] <matthewmcvickar> deshantm_: okay
[06:42] <matthewmcvickar> Than you
[06:42] <matthewmcvickar> Thank you
[06:42] <Warbo> drogers: But there is a "multiverse" set of packages which aren't (they are disabled by default)
[06:43] <krazykit> too late Warbo
[06:43] <Steven_M> thanks linuxmaier. What sort of hardware would I need to run the games at decent speed?
[06:43] <Warbo> Ah
[06:43] <azureal> but shouldnt i be able to change sda3 in qtparted if i'm on knoppix livecd?!
[06:43] <Warbo> azureal: yes
[06:43] <Warbo> azureal: As long as it's type can be resized
[06:43] <azureal> ext3.
[06:44] <squiggly> Warbo: give me my shorts back
[06:44] <linuxmaier> Steven_M: my computer is really crappy (5 years old) and it runs World of Warcraft fairly well. i think that anygame that is listed on the transgaming wiki as running well, would look as good on linux as on windows.
[06:44] <Warbo> azureal: Ext3 can be resized (I have never done it in a GUI, but I have done it with fstab and parted in CLI)
[06:44] <deshantm_> azureal, what does sudo fdisk -l give?
[06:44] <wastrel> i ran WoW on my laptop
[06:44] <squiggly> NO WAY linuxmaier T_T
[06:44] <linuxmaier> Steven_M: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Main_Page
[06:45] <matthewmcvickar> deshantm_:  So if I just enter sudo dpkg -a configure && sudo apt-get by itself if will take care of the updating on its own? no further commands or arguments?
[06:45] <squiggly> my new machine can't even handle it
[06:45] <azureal> deshantm_: yea, i ran that before, i know that i want to resize sda3
[06:45] <linuxmaier> squiggly: ? what is worse?
[06:45] <wastrel> natively tho, not in wine
[06:45] <KhZilla> rule britannia...
[06:45] <Warbo> Well I am tired now, so very tired. Bye bye
[06:45] <squiggly> well, given, it's a server machine, but it still can't run it
[06:45] <squiggly> dunno, what is worse
[06:45] <linuxmaier> well, my crappy ass machine handles it pretty well. perhaps there is something wrong with your comp?
[06:46] <azureal> deshantm_:  http://pastebin.ca/70382          (for fdisk -l)
[06:46] <deshantm_> matthewmcvickar, sudo apt-get <blah>
[06:46] <linuxmaier> i play WoW pretty frequentky
[06:46] <linuxmaier> you do have to do some tweaking, tho
[06:46] <linuxmaier> it tells you what you need to do on the transgaming wiki
[06:47] <ElBrujo> HELP!!!
[06:47] <wastrel> linuxmaier:  you're running WoW under wine?
[06:47] <linuxmaier> wastrel: yeah
[06:47] <ElBrujo> my comand SUDO dont work
[06:47] <linuxmaier> well, cedega to be exact
[06:47] <wastrel> what are you specs?
[06:47] <ElBrujo> i cant do nothig
[06:47] <linuxmaier> what do you mean?
[06:47] <ElBrujo> !!!
[06:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[06:47] <wastrel> system cpu freq, ram and vid. card
[06:47] <KhZilla> there's only one way to play WoW; and that is frequently.
[06:47] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?
[06:48] <azureal> ElBrujo: you can't even su?
[06:48] <ElBrujo> no i can do noting with sudo
[06:48] <wastrel> ElBrujo:  what happens if you do "sudo echo test"
[06:48] <KhZilla> I got my level 37 warrior... he is 7 months old...
[06:48] <efox> as root, is there a way to read back passwords and such ?
[06:48] <linuxmaier> wastrel: is there a nifty command to tell me? otherwise, i might not be of much help. its the family computer and i wasnt much into comuters when we got it
[06:48] <azureal> ElBrujo: what do you mean, exactly, 'it doesn't work'
[06:48] <wastrel> linuxmaier:  cat /proc/cpuinfo  cat /proc/meminfo
[06:48] <foxiness> ElBarono, did you create a new user ?
[06:49] <ElBrujo> i put password and pass to the next line
[06:49] <ElBrujo> nothing
[06:49] <ElBrujo> more
[06:49] <wastrel> linuxmaier:  lspci | grep -i vga
[06:49] <Steven_M> ok, cause I tried to run a game recently with cedaga but the game was craling, maybe my graphics card isn't compatable with linux
[06:49] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, in the terminal, type 'groups' - with no quotation marks
[06:49] <azureal> ElBrujo: the password is _your_ password, not root's
[06:49] <deshantm_> azureal, i don't know why it is not working...
[06:49] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, is "admin" listed in the results of "groups"?
[06:49] <Awesome-o2000> I am able to see my wireless access point, but I am unable to get WEP enabled so I am unable to actually connect to the network. I beg for assistance getting my wireless networking set up.
[06:50] <ElBrujo> nop
[06:50] <ElBrujo> :(
[06:50] <linuxmaier> the cpu is intel pentium 4 1.9 GHz
[06:50] <efox> Awesome-o2000: I had some probs too getting connected to my wep
[06:50] <ElBrujo> only diego
[06:50] <efox> Awesome-o2000: is your iwconfig set up to match your networks config ?
[06:50] <linuxmaier> i have 256MB total RAM (i know, its rediculously low)
[06:50] <Awesome-o2000> efox, for some reason wep refuses to enable
[06:50] <ElBrujo> what can i do?
[06:50] <wastrel> yuh
[06:50] <azureal> deshantm_: just to confirm, ext3 _is_ resizable?  i might take Warbo's suggestion and just burn a new cd w/ only gparted or something
[06:51] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, are you logged in as the user that was created during installation?
[06:51] <linuxmaier> and the video card is geforce 4 MX 400
[06:51] <Awesome-o2000> efox, i have set up things in /etc/networking/interfaces but thats it - is there another place I should be looking?
[06:51] <efox> Awesome-o2000: what do you mean it refuses to enable (btw, im a linux noob, i just remember some stuff that was past to me recently, and thats why i might be able to help.but dont rely too much on me..lol)
[06:51] <linuxmaier> i have RAM problems with WoW sometimes, but its good otherwise
[06:51] <Steven_M> linuxmaier: OK, cause I tried to run a game recently with cedaga but the game was crawling, maybe my graphics card isn't compatible with linux
[06:51] <ElBrujo> i have problem with that user and i... erase it
[06:51] <ElBrujo> and create new
[06:51] <deshantm_> azureal, you could also try a ubuntu cd and sudo apt-get install gparted with it running
[06:52] <Awesome-o2000> efox, I can see the connection, I can put the key setting in manually with iwconfig but when I use iwconfig to see my settings it always says encryption key off
[06:52] <Awesome-o2000> im about ready to hang myself
[06:52] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, that wasn't good - by default only your first user has sudo rights - you can rescue things, though
[06:52] <ElBrujo> :(
[06:52] <linuxmaier> Steven_M: Nvidia is usually good.
[06:52] <foxiness> linuxmaier, is that the lastest ubuntu ?
[06:52] <azureal> deshantm_ -- and then?
[06:52] <Steven_M> thanks
[06:52] <linuxmaier> foxiness: im using breezy
[06:53] <azureal> deshantm_ -- oh, you mean ubuntu livecd?
[06:53] <ElBrujo> in the rescue mode i can do nothing?
[06:53] <deshantm_> azureal, well it would give you a different version of gparted to try... i mean the ubuntu desktop cd
[06:53] <efox> Awesome-o2000:  hm..sorry bro...i never had that problem.
[06:53] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, yes, you can fix things - just a minute, I need to look the commands up for you
[06:53] <ElBrujo> ok
[06:53] <foxiness> linuxmaier, try the lastest one and see the diff
[06:53] <ElBrujo> thanks
[06:53] <linuxmaier> is it worse?
[06:53] <wastrel> Awesome-o2000:  you can put the wep key into the /etc/network/interfaces config for the card
[06:54] <azureal> deshantm_ ah, i have some old 5.04 livecd of ubuntu lol
[06:54] <Awesome-o2000> wastrel, I do - but if I go in and type iwconfig afterwards it says its off, and I can't connect to the network :((
[06:54] <azureal> deshantm_ i guess you're recommending that i  dl and burn 6.06
[06:54] <ElBrujo> i supouse.... this user need to be part od Administration group?
[06:55] <foxiness> linuxmaier, sure ,i have 512 and i have problem on breezy now here on dapper only 30 to 40 use not like breezy 70 to 100
[06:55] <azureal> deshantm_ but i could also go w/ fdisk...?
[06:55] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, exactly
[06:55] <deshantm_> azureal, it is an option... and useful to have around anyway
[06:55] <ElBrujo> opssss...
[06:55] <deshantm_> azureal, fdisk could work but be careful will partition that you have important data on
[06:55] <linuxmaier> wow. thats an improvemtn
[06:55] <polpak> !bugs
[06:55] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:55] <Steven_M> on a completely different subject have any of you ever used a program called emelfm?
[06:56] <ElBrujo> can i connet to IRC in text based mode?
[06:56] <slugicide> Anyone got a link to show me how to add programs to the applications menu?
[06:56] <linuxmaier> foxiness: coupled with the fact that i will be getting a new comp with about 2.5 GB of RAM total, WoW should run super smoth
[06:56] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, you can, but there's only a couple of commands - hold on another minute
[06:56] <ElBrujo> ok
[06:57] <Awesome-o2000> none of the commands I enter into iwconfig take effect at all
[06:57] <Awesome-o2000> it is as if the system ignores me
[06:57] <Awesome-o2000> please, please, someone please help me get wireless networking enabled.
[06:58] <foxiness> linuxmaier, if you know word on dicitonary than "super" then use it herer :)
[06:58] <klient> hiiiiiiiiii
[06:58] <deshantm_> anybody have any experience with pygrub (the xen tool to boot guest domains)?
[06:58] <klient> nop
[06:58] <klient> whats that
[06:58] <linuxmaier> hehe
[06:58] <linuxmaier> foxiness: stupedous
[06:59] <foxiness> linuxmaier, i have other pc what have 1gb and 2.6 and it need 45sec to boot up on dapper or less
[06:59] <mikeo> ok i am in the grub program right now, and the ubuntu i want to restore is in /dev/sdb2
[06:59] <linuxmaier> nce
[06:59] <linuxmaier> nice*
[06:59] <efox> Awesome-o2000: with wep off, does it work ?
[06:59] <mikeo> how do i restore grub to boot /dev/sdb2 and keep my windows installation
[07:00] <deshantm_> mikeo, root (hd0,1)
[07:00] <rawr1> omg this is the second time this has happened to me ... i did a net install of the dapper i386 iso and for the second time, AFTER downloading and installation the screen HANGS. it's a black screen with what looks like to be two small white blocks on either side of the screen against a black background
[07:00] <deshantm_> then setup (hd0)
[07:00] <deshantm_> then quit
[07:00] <mikeo> for /sdb2 ?
[07:00] <deshantm_> then you will have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:00] <deshantm_> to add the entry for windows
[07:01] <rawr1> and what's worse is that it leaves 0 partitions active after it!! now i'm in knoppix and i used qtparted to set hda2 back to active
[07:01] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, what is the name of your current user?
[07:01] <deshantm_> (hd1,2)
[07:01] <rawr1> does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
[07:01] <deshantm_> and (hd1)
[07:01] <deshantm_> tab complete should work too
[07:01] <mikeo> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition              for setup (hd0)
[07:01] <ElBrujo> my curren user is diego
[07:01] <linuxmaier> foxiness: have you had troubles with the lastest WoW patch?
[07:01] <Eleaf> hi
[07:02] <deshantm_> mikeo, try root (hd<TAB>
[07:02] <mikeo> Possible disks are:  hd0 hd1 hd2
[07:02] <dsas> rawr1: I have nothing productive to add. But that sounds like pong!
[07:02] <rawr1> LOL
[07:02] <squiggly> deltree /Y C:\
[07:02] <rawr1> that's exactly what it looks like! seriously, without the ball of course
[07:02] <deshantm_> mikeo then guess one and see what possible ones
[07:02] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, OK - reboot your computer, get into the rescue mode thru GRUB, and do "addgroup diego admin" then "shutdown -r now" to restart your machine. You should be OK - check back here to let us know
[07:02] <rawr1> you remember the ping pong game on those old consoles? atari i think?
[07:02] <iamelite> Does anyone use cedega
[07:03] <linuxmaier> i do
[07:03] <mikeo> none of them work
[07:03] <slugicide> Anyone got a link to show me how to add programs to the applications menu?
[07:03] <Healot> !info smeg
[07:03] <deshantm_> mikeo, ok get out of grub and run sudo fdisk -l
[07:03] <ubotu> Package smeg does not exist in dapper
[07:03] <mikeo> setup (hd<0-2>) gives Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[07:03] <Madpilot> Healot, the menu editor is called Alacarte these days
[07:03] <Amaranth> !info alacarte
[07:03] <ubotu> alacarte: easy menu editing. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 472 kB
[07:04] <Healot> sucky
[07:04] <sesstreets> Ok Ill just ask the question
[07:04] <rawr1> ok no one knows, i'll try a different problem then that's been bothering me... 2) i downloaded the dapper i386 iso, and i burnt it and boot it up with the "start and install" but it takes FOREVER to load (this is a 2.8ghz pc so..). What's worse is that it takes 3 minutes and 42 seconds (i timed it) to open up the installer in ubuntu! and it's even SLOWER to install it (i have yet to get past the "select timezone" part)
[07:04] <Amaranth> ?
[07:04] <Healot> pyalacarte?
[07:04] <foxiness> linuxmaier, did you mean  World of Warcraft patch , if yes i do not paly any game just browser,pdf viewr,irc-chat,im,editer
[07:04] <deshantm_> mikeo you are running grub with sudo right?
[07:04] <sesstreets> How come when I view a flash movie the sound is off by about one second
[07:04] <mikeo> yes
[07:04] <Amaranth> Healot: no, it's not wxwidgets
[07:04] <mikeo> /dev/sdb2   *       28490       30319    14699475   83  Linux
[07:04] <linuxmaier> foxiness: oh, i though you did
[07:04] <mikeo> * means boot
[07:04] <linuxmaier> imamelite: i use cedega
[07:04] <Healot> Amaranth: no more Gtk2?
[07:04] <iamelite> Im trying to get Cedega to see my game thats on my drive allready installed
[07:05] <ElBrujo> ok madpilot
[07:05] <sesstreets> anybody know why my flash sound laggs?
[07:05] <skavenge> Anyone dealt with a Dell 1350 wireless nic? Worked with ndiswrapper for days, says driver and hardware is present yet in device manager it still says its using a broadcom 43xx driver? how do i tell HAL or whatever to use the ndiswrapper driver instead of what it thinks it is?
[07:05] <deshantm_> that should be root (hd1,1)
[07:05] <Amaranth> alacarte is just a newer version of smeg
[07:05] <Amaranth> Healot: ^
[07:05] <ElBrujo> im try
[07:05] <rawr1> no one?
[07:05] <deshantm_> then setup (hd1)
[07:05] <mikeo> do i have to unmount it first?
[07:05] <bur[n] er> anyone know the package name to get sun java?
[07:05] <deshantm_> no
[07:05] <deshantm_> yes
[07:05] <mikeo> right now /dev/sdb2 is mounted
[07:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell bur[n] er about java
[07:06] <elw> cups is a pain to setup...
[07:06] <slugicide> Thanks, but what about when the program isn't there to choose from?  Is there some sort of config file associated with programs to tell them where to appear?
[07:06] <deshantm_> shouldn't matter i don't think...
[07:06] <mikeo> umount /dev/sdb2 umount: /temp1: device is busy
[07:06] <sesstreets> isnt there a whole website dedicated to flash in firefox on linux?
[07:06] <bur[n] er> thanks Madpilot
[07:07] <deshantm_> i don't think you need/want to unmount it
[07:07] <Steven_M> is there special charator to indicate that command should be run in terminal, for use when filetyping?
[07:07] <mikeo> while then how do i restore grub to work with windows too
[07:07] <rawr1> why does it take forever to open up the dapper live cd and install? i can't even get past the installation part because it's SOO SLOW and it's not my processor
[07:07] <deshantm_> sudo grub
[07:07] <deshantm_> root (hd1,1)
[07:07] <mikeo> yeah
[07:07] <deshantm_> setup (hd1)
[07:07] <mikeo> root (hd1,1)
[07:07] <mikeo>  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[07:07] <dsas> slugicide: when the program isn't there to choose from, you need to go to file-> new entry. Then browse to the program yoursel.f
[07:07] <adamant1988> rawr1,  I had a similiar issue, but I found that burning a more up to date iso helped things :)
[07:07] <mikeo> setup (hd1); Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[07:08] <BSoDirl> weird question: Intel 536ep modem on breezy.. compiling from source, any tips?
[07:08] <wastrel> molmol
[07:08] <theBishop> does the Power Applet work right for [i] anyone[/i] ?
[07:08] <rawr1> adamant1988, really? i have the desktop dapper 6.06 iso, is there a newer one than that?
[07:08] <mikeo> is there any other way to restore it
[07:08] <mikeo> it shouldnt be this hard
[07:08] <slugicide> dsas-teh awesome, thanks
[07:09] <mikeo> i know where the windows partitions are and i know where the linux partition is, just want it to boot /dev/sdb2 and /dev/hda1
[07:09] <adamant1988> rawr1,  patches get release etc. I *think* they include patches in the isos, but I'm not sure.  I know that re-burning helped though
[07:09] <rawr1> adamant1988, so reburn the patches to a new cd with the new iso?
[07:09] <ElBrujo> Ok its working
[07:09] <ElBrujo> tanks
[07:10] <Thinjon100> 2 Questions real quick... a) What's the hotkey (or easiest way) restart gdm (I seem to recall a Ctrl+Alt+something)....
[07:10] <deshantm_> sudo cat /boot/grub/device.map
[07:10] <ElBrujo> very mouch
[07:10] <ElBrujo> much
[07:10] <ElBrujo> XD
[07:10] <adamant1988> rawrl, try downloading a new iso and burning it and seeing how that goes for you :)
[07:10] <sesstreets> Seriously why the hell is my flash lagging
[07:10] <sesstreets> theres sound
[07:10] <sesstreets> and visuals
[07:10] <sesstreets> just the sound is a second LATE
[07:10] <rawr1> adamant1988, alright i will, but SUPPOSE that doesn't work, what do i do? :)
[07:10] <wastrel> Thinjon100:  ctrl-alt-backspace kills the X server, not gdm
[07:10] <wastrel> Thinjon100:  /etc/init.d/gdm restart  will restart gdm
[07:10] <adamant1988> Hrmm, to be honest I'm not sure, I know that's what worked for me *shrug*
[07:11] <sesstreets> anybody?
[07:11] <wastrel> (needs sudo)
[07:11] <rawr1> lol alright i'll try it :D
[07:11] <Thinjon100> OK, so if I want to restart gdm, I'm going to have to do it from terminal prompt... ok
[07:11] <ElBrujo> Madpilot
[07:11] <ElBrujo> its working
[07:11] <ElBrujo> tanks
[07:11] <sesstreets> Anybody?
[07:11] <sesstreets> at all
[07:11] <wastrel> sesstreets:  i had that prob in breezy
[07:11] <elw> anyone ever installed qingy?
[07:11] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, got everything working with sudo now? Awesome.
[07:11] <ElBrujo> YEA
[07:11] <mikeo> how do i restore grub
[07:11] <adamant1988> sesstreets, flash is buggy still in linux in general and not up to date... I have decent visuals and no sound =\
[07:11] <sesstreets> wastrel, whatd u do to fix it?
[07:11] <dsas> !tell mikeo about grub
[07:11] <rawr1> adamant1988,  so new cd, just a regular 6.06 dapper build right? not a nightly one or something?
[07:12] <Steven_M> sesstreets: I don't get any flash sound at all
[07:12] <Madpilot> ElBrujo, you can give newly-created users the ability to use sudo too - better do that before you delete users next time :)
[07:12] <Thinjon100> Second question... between multiple installation attempts and a bad reformat, I seem to have hosed GRUB... I got it reinstalled, but I don't have a menu.lst, so I have to enter all my kernel stuff manually to boot... is tehre a commadn to have Ubuntu generate one, or a good resource for writing one?
[07:12] <adamant1988> rawr1, yeah just download the iso from the servers
[07:12] <wastrel> sesstreets:  it's fixed in dapper - never got it fixed in breezy...
[07:12] <adamant1988> I'm in dapper, I have good visualed flash and no sound =\
[07:12] <sesstreets> not fixed for me v_v
[07:12] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Thinjon100 about grub
[07:12] <sesstreets> I used automatix and installed practically everything
[07:13] <rawr1> adamant1988, ok one Last question LOL :) which one do you have? the desktop version or hte server?
[07:13] <wastrel> adamant1988:  there's info on getting sound working on the restrictedformats page
[07:13] <BSoDirl> Intel536ep winmodem in breezy, CAN it be done?
[07:13] <adamant1988> rawr1, I'm using the Dapper desktop 6.06
[07:13] <rawr1> ok ok perfect :)
[07:13] <elw> anyone else passed the ubuntu professional cert yet?
[07:13] <mikeo> how do i restore grub
[07:13] <adamant1988> wastrel, none of that worked for me =(
[07:13] <mikeo> i want to restore grub to work with windows and ubuntu, ubuntu / is installed at /dev/sdb2 and windows i think is at /dev/hda1. i am booted in a livecd and have run the grub program, how do i restore it?
[07:13] <wastrel> ah :/
[07:13] <Healot> mikeo: two ways
[07:14] <adamant1988> I suppose I could try running the fixes again...
[07:14] <ElBrujo> ok Madpilot
[07:14] <terrapen> howdy
[07:14] <wastrel> hi
[07:14] <mikeo> how do i restore grub
[07:14] <polpak> !grub
[07:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:15] <terrapen> is there a way to enable kernel symbol versioning without building a new kernel?
[07:15] <LazyBee> kontolku ngaceng cok
[07:15] <mooreand13213> can anyone help me access my ntfs partition to get all my mp3s in linux?
[07:15] <wastrel> !ntfs
[07:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:16] <mooreand13213> thanx
[07:16] <BSoDirl> mooreand13213 : mount -t ntfs /dev/(windows partition) /mnt/<foldername>
[07:16] <jasonm> quick question about video, my card seems to work well with ubuntu out of the box... at times a little choppy., but the max resolution i can select int the menu is 1024x768.. when i was running windows i could select way higher resulutions i have a half decent nvidia card. any tips?
[07:16] <terrapen> i could just rebuild my kernel but I wanted to stick with ubuntu kernels if possible
[07:16] <terrapen> but they aren't working with these Sangoma drivers for this PRI/T1 card
[07:16] <BSoDirl> mkdir /media/windows , mount -t ntfs /dev/<partition>, /media/windows, cd /media/windows
[07:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> swiftfox anyone?
[07:17] <BSoDirl> that'll work if you know your windows partition name.
[07:17] <terrapen> jasonm, check google
[07:17] <mikeo> grub-install /dev/sdb2;        Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.;        /dev/loop/0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[07:17] <mikeo> so thats it?
[07:17] <jasonm> terrapen, i dont even know what id search on google.
[07:18] <Steven_M> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: what's swiftfox?
[07:18] <terrapen> how about "nvidia resolution"?
[07:18] <terrapen> shoot, it's not hard
[07:18] <elw> if i have an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, which ubuntu kernel should i use?
[07:18] <efox> my swap is about 700Mb, and I'm going to be getting some more ram put into my laptop...should i change what my swap space is..or is 700mb ok ?
[07:18] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Steven_M: firefox optimized for amd and intel chips
[07:19] <BSoDirl> Athlon XP is just <Athlon>
[07:19] <BSoDirl> ^_^
[07:19] <efox> oh, and im going up to 1GB from my current 512mb
[07:19] <sesstreets> everything is better with twice the ram
[07:19] <spikeb> not windows.
[07:19] <Steven_M> oh ok cool, where do you get it from?
[07:19] <BSoDirl> lol here here spikeb
[07:20] <elw> should i use the k7 or the 686 kernel if i have an athlon?
[07:20] <Healot> k7 or 686
[07:20] <spikeb> elw: k7
[07:20] <Healot> both work fine, but k7 is more optimized
[07:20] <BSoDirl> k7 yeah
[07:20] <Rick_kinda_newbi> I installed dapper 6.06, i get some edubuntu splash screens and it exits saying it is Xubuntu, what gives?
[07:20] <elw> cat /proc/cpuinfo says it "cpu family 6" but i can still use k7 ???
[07:21] <foxiness> after i install app with wine how can i start it?
[07:21] <Healot> wine <the exe>
[07:21] <spikeb> wow Rick_kinda_newbi
[07:21] <spikeb> that's screwed up
[07:21] <BSoDirl> foxiness: check ~/.wine/
[07:21] <sesstreets> sorry man
[07:21] <Rick_kinda_newbi> I know
[07:21] <sesstreets> sounds bad
[07:21] <Healot> or type "fuyu no hanabi" in terminal foxiness
[07:21] <BSoDirl> should go ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/<app folder>
[07:21] <Rick_kinda_newbi> first I had the KFCE desktop
[07:21] <sesstreets> the ONE thing ubuntu needs is a similar feature to the add/remove programs feature on windows
[07:22] <Rick_kinda_newbi> then I installed GNOME and that works fine
[07:22] <efox> so anyone know with regards to my swap question: my current swap is 700mb, and im upping my ram to 1GB, could i leave my swap at 700mb or should i up that to 2 times ram?
[07:22] <BSoDirl> you could go "cd ~/.wine/dr*/Pr*/<appfolder>"
[07:22] <jasonm> anyone have any ideas's on how to optimize an Nvidia card?
[07:22] <BSoDirl> and then "wine <appname>"
[07:22] <spikeb> haha
[07:22] <spikeb> run a lot of windows apps eh?
[07:22] <elw> my lcd is kinda jumpy... any ideas?
[07:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Steven_M: getswiftfox.com
[07:22] <BSoDirl> Rick_kinda_newbi: BLASPHEMY! it's xfce :)
[07:22] <NoUse> I think the title should be wino
[07:23] <Rick_kinda_newbi> I know BSODirl!!!
[07:23] <Rick_kinda_newbi> sorry!!
[07:23] <BSoDirl> spikeb: the best binary/package for wine has to be on puppy, it's awesome.
[07:23] <Rick_kinda_newbi> Do you like xfce?
[07:23] <BSoDirl> :[
[07:23] <BSoDirl> If xfce4 was a lady, I'd marry it.
[07:23] <Healot> geeky statement
[07:24] <Rick_kinda_newbi> maybe I should give it another look
[07:24] <BSoDirl> and have offspring named xfce5, xfce6, etc.
[07:24] <sesstreets> is there another gui ftp program besides shitty gftp?
[07:24] <BSoDirl> hehe, I like gftp :)
[07:24] <sesstreets> Its disgusting to someone used to filezilla
[07:24] <Rick_kinda_newbi> guess I'm still partial to gnome
[07:24] <wastrel> never heard of filezilla
[07:24] <wastrel> i usually use scp
[07:25] <Healot> god olde "ftp"
[07:25] <mikeo11> hwo come i cant restore grub
[07:25] <mikeo11> i followed the grub directions and it wont restore it self
[07:25] <pvd2006> is gnome a lot faster on dapper compared to breezy?
[07:25] <wastrel> not that i've noticed
[07:26] <Rick_kinda_newbi> ah, my wireless kb doesn't work in the grub menu, but works fine after that
[07:26] <mikeo11> is there any way to restore grub
[07:26] <garryF> Did ye use the rescue mode on the disk to restore grub?
[07:26] <BSoDirl> I plan on using icewm in breezy
[07:26] <mikeo11> yes
[07:26] <BSoDirl> if i get all the deps etc.
[07:26] <mikeo11> grub-installer
[07:26] <mikeo11> didnt work
[07:26] <wastrel> icewm eh
[07:26] <BSoDirl> or just downloading xfce4
[07:26] <BSoDirl> *on dialup
[07:26] <Rick_kinda_newbi> hehe
[07:26] <BSoDirl> the mac theme for icewm is nice.
[07:26] <BSoDirl> "brushed metal"
[07:26] <mikeo11> how do i resture grub
[07:27] <BSoDirl> it's like windoze+osx had kids and they looked better than both.
[07:27] <Rick_kinda_newbi> thanks, goodnight
[07:27] <polpak> !tell mikeo11 about grub
[07:27] <carlfk> mikeo11: you just install it again
[07:27] <mikeo11> is there some kind of live cd that can restore it
[07:27] <mikeo11> i did, and it didnt install
[07:27] <polpak> mikeo11: follow the instructions
[07:27] <polpak> !grub
[07:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:27] <polpak> mikeo11:  ^^
[07:28] <mikeo11> i am on a livecd right now
[07:28] <mikeo11> is there any way i can restore it from here
[07:28] <BSoDirl> lol im downloading 4 diff. versions of this driver, one of em "better" work
[07:28] <skavenge> Anyone dealt with a Dell 1350 wireless nic? Worked with ndiswrapper for days, says driver and hardware is present yet in device manager it still says its using a broadcom 43xx driver? how do i tell HAL or whatever to use the ndiswrapper driver instead of what it thinks it is?
[07:28] <garryF> I think you might need to use the alternate install cd
[07:28] <garryF> I've heard of a live grub cd, but I dunno anything about it.
[07:29] <BSoDirl> I wish ndiswrapper would work on dialup modem drivers
[07:29] <BSoDirl> (sigh)
[07:29] <Lord-ChewY> im having some trouble getting quake4 running, it says a file is missing.... lemme get the name
[07:29] <mikeo11> is there any way to restore it with grub by running grub
[07:29] <mikeo11> and root (hdsomething)
[07:29] <mikeo11> and setup(hdsomething
[07:29] <Lord-ChewY> this is the error im getting
[07:29] <Lord-ChewY> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:29] <concept10> Anyone know of a plugin for Adobe reader that allows you to highlight pdf's?
[07:29] <mikeo11> the root ubuntu installation is at /dev/sdb2
[07:29] <Lord-ChewY> i have the SDL packages installed
[07:29] <BSoDirl> does 'grubconfig' work?
[07:29] <Lord-ChewY> for alsa
[07:30] <Lord-ChewY> and i can play ut2004demo as well fine
[07:30] <BSoDirl> just build SDL from source, then you can be sure :)
[07:30] <mikeo11> nope
[07:30] <mikeo11> grub works tho
[07:30] <BSoDirl> ./configure, make, make install
[07:30] <BSoDirl> :[
[07:30] <BSoDirl> *is lost*
[07:30] <mikeo11> from the command line
[07:30] <BSoDirl> can you boot into the system?
[07:31] <BSoDirl> *takes a look at his /boot/grub/menu.lst*
[07:31] <mikeo11> i can boot into windows
[07:31] <mikeo11> vista and xp
[07:31] <mikeo11> but no ubuntu
[07:31] <garryF> sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.lst and make sure its pointing to the right partitions.
[07:31] <mikeo11> vista overwrote it
[07:31] <BSoDirl> ewww vista
[07:31] <BSoDirl> *checks his grub menu.lst*
[07:31] <Healot> sure
[07:31] <Healot> that what NT operating systems do
[07:31] <mikeo11> so how do i restore grub
[07:32] <mikeo11> to still work with windows
[07:32] <polpak> mikeo11: for the 3rd time     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:32] <BSoDirl> Mine's setup like that.
[07:32] <polpak> mikeo11: please read it
[07:32] <BSoDirl> I once triplebooted netbsd+suse+xp ... but that was a swhile back.
[07:32] <garryF> Visa and grub is like diet pepsi and mentos in a bottle. They don't co-esist I suspect.
[07:33] <BSoDirl> pardon me, freebsd.
[07:33] <cwillu> yay for checkinstall!
[07:33] <SurfnKid> Visa and Mastercard must die
[07:33] <mikeo11> so from the rescue prompt i type grub-install /dev/sdb2
[07:34] <mikeo11> can i use a 32bit ubuntu cd for amd64 to restore grub
[07:34] <BSoDirl> I await the day when Vista hits shelves.
[07:34] <pvd2006> so gnome isnt faster on dapper, but if you put xgl on there it should run faster with accelerated graphics right?
[07:34] <SurfnKid> BSoDirl, you like Vista?
[07:34] <polpak> pvd2006: actually gnome is faster on dapper than it was in breezy
[07:35] <pvd2006> that is what I thought.
[07:35] <BSoDirl> Nah, I wanna see how many people are complaining about how "THIS DOESNT WORK AHHH"
[07:35] <garryF> He's probably hoping that folks will try it then go to linux
[07:35] <sesstreets> how the hell do u take a screenshot in dapper?
[07:35] <polpak> sesstreets: printscreen ?
[07:35] <BSoDirl> my cousin said at some press thing for Vista a percentage of the display boxes were bluescreened.
[07:35] <sesstreets> AHAHAHAH LOL
[07:35] <sesstreets> thanks
[07:35] <BSoDirl> :|
[07:35] <Lord-ChewY> anyone know how to get quake4 running?
[07:36] <BSoDirl> it's gonna be madness...
[07:36] <Steven_M> is there special charator to indicate that command should be run in terminal, for setting up minetypes?
[07:36] <Madpilot> Folks, chat about Dapper & MS can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[07:36] <Lord-ChewY> i get the error that  libSDL-1.2.so.0 is missing, but i have it in /usr/lib /lib and /usr/lib32
[07:36] <Madpilot> sorry, about Vista, not Dapper... gah :|
[07:36] <cwillu> BSoDirl: garryF: so long as us irc bots don't try to convince them to try xgl and send them back screaming :)
[07:37] <BSoDirl> :>
[07:37] <garryF> Mea no culpa, I have not tried to convince anyone to use xgl
[07:37] <Thor> how do i reinstall my Sound drivers?
[07:37] <predaeus> Lord-ChewY: are you on a 64bit system?
[07:37] <cwillu> garryF: but you just know that !xgl will be the order of the day :/
[07:37] <garryF> hehe
[07:37] <Lord-ChewY> predaeus yes
[07:38] <BSoDirl> :S
[07:38] <sesstreets> So tell me master of linuxies
[07:38] <sesstreets> If I install windows onto a second partition AFTER I have install ubuntu on the first how do I get back to ubuntu
[07:38] <sesstreets> Because I know windows is going to kill grub
[07:38] <polpak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:38] <predaeus> Lord-ChewY: Running a 64bit Ubuntu I meant. Well, actually I do not have an idea but maybe it expects some special path or something that differs from the 32bit one.
[07:39] <sesstreets> :R
[07:39] <sesstreets> Could i use boot magic instead?
[07:39] <hav0k> what is the freaking super key on a pc?
[07:39] <SurfnKid> i dont care much about windows
[07:39] <mikeo11> will an ubuntu 5.1 disk work to restore ubuntu dapper amd64 grub
[07:39] <sesstreets> no
[07:39] <SurfnKid> :)
[07:39] <cwillu> hav0k: windows key I believe
[07:40] <sesstreets> Can I use boot magic to replace grub?
[07:40] <Lord-ChewY> predaeus: are files that show up green, are those symlinks?
[07:40] <Thor> how do i install audio drivers for my Ubuntu 6.06
[07:40] <hav0k> cwillu, really?  it doesnt seemed to be working when i try to use it to enable some of the compiz plugins...
[07:40] <cwillu> hav0k: :/
[07:41] <hav0k> yeah, i dont know
[07:41] <predaeus> Lord-ChewY: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84828 maybe this helps.
[07:41] <garryF> Hmm, I put windows on my first drive, directed the ubuntu alternate text install to put grub and ubuntu on my fourth drive and then used a third party boot loader to start grub, or windows depending on what I wanted. Kind of redundant I know but it works
[07:42] <predaeus> Lord-ChewY: Sry, I dont know from memory. Try "ls -l" to list more detailed and see if it points somewhere.
[07:42] <timothys> Hey everyone...  anyone game for tracking down an IDE problem?
[07:43] <garryF> IDE as in it don't execute?
[07:43] <timothys> lol
[07:44] <BrownMan> hey i got a question for anyone who can help:  I have my windows file system mounted and windows has a virus.  Is there any way to get rid of my viruses and spyware from Ubuntu?
[07:44] <packetscan> hola just install proftpd as inetd service. only it's not running.    what's the command compareable to chkconfig so i can see run levels?
[07:44] <timothys> IDE as in it takes roughly 10 minutes to boot my machine and hdparm -t reports ~500k/s transfer rate to and from my drive.
[07:44] <SurfnKid> BrownMan, you have them in windows or in Ubuntu
[07:44] <BrownMan> Surf, in Windows
[07:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone running swiftfox?
[07:45] <Thor> yes
[07:45] <SurfnKid> BrownMan, just go into Windows and remove them with NIS or some Antivirus software
[07:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Thor: swiftfox?
[07:45] <SurfnKid> BrownMan, then boot back to ubuntu and mount Windows, access it and thats it
[07:46] <Ademan> how does inkscape match up to openoffice.org draw? are the two really even comparable? which to people prefer for vector graphics?
[07:46] <BrownMan> Surf, I have tried with many software products but they just keep coming back...persistant little bastards.
[07:46] <garryF> No safe way unless its a fat 32, and then it would involve running a windows virus scanner running under some version of wine. Sounds a bit risky. Best proggy for hand removing trash that won't go away with many anti virus softwares is hijack-this.
[07:46] <garryF> I used hijackthis to get rid of 400 viruses.
[07:46] <timothys> There's always clamav
[07:46] <cwillu> garryF: something along the lines of bartpe might be more what you want
[07:46] <yallaman> heyas all.. seems like i have a problem with openGL ..i run a openGL test with Cedega and it fails..i still see the glxgears tho..how do i find out if openGL is enabled?
[07:47] <BrownMan> Garry, but doesn't hijack-this only give you like what is there but does not quarentine?
[07:47] <Ademan> yallaman: openGL is always "enabled"
[07:47] <cwillu> i.e., full native ntfs access because it's actually a xp livecd;  only trouble is getting on in the first place
[07:47] <BrownMan> garry, I actually know exactly where it is, but I cannot delete it.
[07:47] <yallaman> why does it fail in the test then?
[07:47] <Ademan> its a question of using the software mesa driver, or a hardware accelerated driver from nvidia or ati
[07:47] <Ademan> yallaman: can you tell me EXACTLY what results it gives?
[07:47] <garryF> Yeah, you have to identify all processes as belinging or not, and then the hijackthis can be used to delete those pesky things that won't go away.
[07:47] <SurfnKid> BrownMan, sounds like its on a MBR and keeps brining it up, use Lavasoft, Avast! or another heavy AVS
[07:48] <yallaman> i guess HW driver from nvidia would be best then
[07:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone running swiftfox?
[07:48] <garryF> Unfortunately this is getting off topic
[07:48] <yallaman> i did apt-get nvidia-glx
[07:48] <Ademan> !tell yallaman about nvidia
[07:48] <Ademan> hopefully that worked
[07:49] <SurfnKid> garryF, good point
[07:49] <Ademan> i dont remember exactly what i did to install my nvidia drivers unfortunately, but if ubotu told you anything, it should tell you what you need to do
[07:49] <SurfnKid> I am tempted to go back to Dappe
[07:49] <BrownMan> Garry and Surf, well ok I will see what I can do...so far I have tried Spybot and Spy Doctor...both have done their job but they just keep coming back...like its this question mark in the corner of the screen that seems legit but from what I have heard, clicking it makes it worse
[07:49] <SurfnKid> but when I have a week off I will do it
[07:50] <SurfnKid> its just that everything seems to work on Breezy. cept APM
[07:50] <SurfnKid> BrownMan, ohh Yellow !
[07:50] <BrownMan> Yes, that one too
[07:50] <Ademan> HEY!  isnt there actually expiramental writing to NTFS? i'll see if i can dig up the link... though no matter what itt'll be risky
[07:51] <BrownMan> I know exactly where it is in the system32 folder, but I can't delete it...
[07:51] <jace> Hello
[07:51] <timothys> captive actually works really well for ntfs writing
[07:51] <SurfnKid> BrownMan, check registry thats all i can say or else ill get in trouble, check the html arguments for your IE default strings. it hides keys in there, there is some software that will remove that I believe it was that new MS anti virus thing. do some googling, i removed it once, i jsut cant remember
[07:51] <cwillu> BrownMan: try booting up in safemode command prompt only
[07:51] <garryF> I"m not absolutely sure, but I think it is safe to delete a file through Ubuntu, but I would not count on it,
[07:52] <Ademan> garryF: ubuntu has ntfs writing?
[07:52] <garryF> that is from off of ntfs.
[07:52] <BrownMan> Yes, it is ntfs
[07:52] <BrownMan> and ubuntu can delete, but as root only on my comp
[07:52] <BrownMan> so i'll have to do some snooping
[07:52] <BrownMan> but ok, thanks
[07:52] <SurfnKid> np
[07:53] <timothys> garryf: captive will grab it's ntfs driver from a windows partition, or download it for you if you attest that you have a valid windows license.
[07:53] <garryF> not safe writing, there is some strangeness to it but if I recall, deletion or replacing a file with a file of excactly the same size as the original isn't so danerous.
[07:54] <jace> I have a question: I have an onboard sound card and a another sound card in my system and it isn't a problem for the most part.  But some programs (namly WINE) use my onboard sound as my primary sound device.  I was wondering if there was a way to disable my on board sound so that the system defaults to my secondary sound card
[07:54] <garryF> I'd reccomment caution.
[07:54] <Ademan> garryF: well does "safe" mean journaling? or does "safe" mean "hopefully it won't screw up" ?
[07:54] <Madpilot> jace, check your BIOS to disable the onboard sound completely
[07:55] <garryF> If I recall, it is less likely to screw it up. Back ut that data is my reccommendation.
[07:55] <jace> Madpilot: Hot damn, I didn't even think of that. Thanks !
[07:56] <jace> gonna go try that now
[07:56] <wastrel> you just say that to make them reboot
[07:57] <Madpilot> wastrel, yes, I hate uptime and like to destroy it when possible :)
[07:57] <garryF> LoL
[07:57] <packetscan> ok i switched back to Vsftpd.  i can only list when i'm on the internal network. ( odd considering i have specified the pasv directives int eh config file and the ports are openon my external router.
[07:58] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, where (under what package) in launchpad should i file a bug concerning broken package dependencies?
[07:58] <postmodern> hello, I'm looking for the default LVM layout that Ubuntu uses
[07:58] <dsas> yoshiznit123: Probably on the package that has the broken dependancies.
[07:58] <postmodern> trying to recover a LVM system, that was installed using the default partition layout
[07:58] <dsas> yoshiznit123: Try joining #ubuntu-bugs
[07:58] <garryF> www.ubuntOops.com
[07:58] <earthen> how do I give all user read/write access to a folder via command line
[07:59] <jughead> I have samba setup for my LAN; is there a way to login remotely and have access to my files?
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> earthen, chmod 666 <filename>
[07:59] <dsas> earthen: chmod 666 <folder_name>, if it already has files you want to give access to then chmod 666 <foldername>/*
[07:59] <yoshiznit123> dsas, ok thanks
[07:59] <SurfnKid> pppoe_dude, where is a list of chmod commands
[08:00] <SurfnKid> does ubotu know
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, see man chmod
[08:00] <garryF> mod chmod
[08:00] <dsas> SurfnKid: he doesn't. man chmod.
[08:00] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[08:00] <wastrel> earthen:  or chmod a+rw <filename>  (if you prefer human-readable chmod args)
[08:00] <SurfnKid> cool
[08:00] <garryF> er man chmod
[08:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone running swiftfox?
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, when you give it a number, that would be the octal representation of <rwxrwxrwx for u/g/a
[08:00] <earthen> pppoe_dude, dsas ok thanks I was trying to do it with chmod +rw with noe luck
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> earthen, that only does it for owner
[08:01] <earthen> well it a web page folder that everyone should have red access to
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> earthen, although you can use it to do it for all
[08:02] <cwillu> can session startup stuff be made to run in a sudo'ish manner without me having to type my password in at launch?
[08:02] <postmodern> how does one go about recovering a Ubuntu LVMed system?
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> earthen, chmod [ugoa]  [+/-]  [rwx] 
[08:02] <yallaman> a well..did reinstall and configed my nvidia drivers.. still the OpenGL test on Cedega fails..i remember it passed before i installed Xgl/Compiz(3d eyecandy)
[08:03] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know of a repo that has PHP 5.1.4 ?
[08:03] <earthen> pppoe_dude, mmm none of them commands seems to be working
[08:04] <pppoe_dude> earthen, if you want to change all the insides too, try it with the -R option
[08:04] <pppoe_dude> earthen, what are you trying to do?
[08:04] <earthen> pppoe_dude, curently there is nothing in the folder
[08:04] <holotone> I don't suppose anyone knows where I might find some Ubuntu web badges perchance?
[08:04] <holotone> maybe 100px wide or so?
[08:05] <earthen> pppoe_dude, I'm trying to creat a folder on my web server where i can store images
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> earthen, is it giving you persmission denied?
[08:05] <earthen> pppoe_dude, nope
[08:05] <earthen> pppoe_dude, no errors at all
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> earthen, try adding an x in there... chmod 777 <folder>
[08:06] <earthen> pppoe_dude, but I can't seem to upload file to it via ftp, I assumeing it's because the folder is only rw for root
[08:06] <feih> hi mates. can anyone help me with sth? i have a mounted ext3 partition i want to change the permissions to. how do i do that?
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> earthen, or you can also try chown...
[08:07] <earthen> pppoe_dude, 777 seems to have don it
[08:07] <postmodern> what is Ubuntu's default LVM layout
[08:07] <Healot> none
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> earthen, my prof once taught me to use 777 for folders (as they need to be "executable" in order to get in
[08:08] <Healot> because there isn't any
[08:08] <postmodern> well i'm seeing three partitions
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> earthen, i dont know how accurate that is
[08:08] <postmodern> one is marked LVM
[08:08] <earthen> pppoe_dude, mmm I don't know eather
[08:08] <postmodern> the otheres /boot and swap
[08:08] <postmodern> i need to get into that LVM partition, how'd i go about doing that
[08:08] <Healot> postmodern: if there is a previous LVM partition...
[08:08] <yoshiznit123> is there a proposal for peer-to-peer based updates in ubuntu?
[08:08] <yallaman> << need some lub
[08:08] <earthen> pppoe_dude, i'm only storing pic's there that will show up on a web page
[08:08] <polpak> directories should be set 755 or 775 but probably not 777
[08:08] <postmodern> Healot, it was generated by Ubuntu's partition manager
[08:09] <Healot> which partitioning option you choose?
[08:09] <earthen> pppoe_dude, it working now my file are transfering
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> s/777/7
[08:09] <Graig> peer-to-peer based updates would have to be done very carefully, cause getting your updates from a 3rd party sounds kinda scary.
[08:09] <postmodern> Healot, the defaults
[08:09] <earthen> polpak, what is 755 or 775
[08:09] <Healot> the defaults? you mean remove all Linux partition?
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> earthen, ya i think the 'cd' command actually requires the directory to be executable
[08:09] <postmodern> Healot, well i didn't per-say, i'm playing janitor for a Ubuntu newbie
[08:09] <mephis1987> !de
[08:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:10] <polpak> earthen: rwxr-xr-x and rwxrwxr-x respectively
[08:10] <postmodern> Healot, but i'd like to know said defaults, so I can help this guy recover his system
[08:10] <efox> earthen: it allows the owner to read write and execute and everyone else only read and write
[08:10] <yoshiznit123> graig, couldn't all updates be hashed by a central ubuntu server?
[08:10] <wastrel> what's lvm?
[08:10] <polpak> wastrel: logical volumn management
[08:10] <Graig> yoshiznit123: i guess they could.
[08:10] <yoshiznit123> we already download cd's from torrents
[08:10] <postmodern> wastrel, Logical Volumn Managment (like software-raid)
[08:10] <earthen> efox, polpak ok thanks for the info
[08:10] <polpak> wastrel: also known as PITA
[08:11] <yoshiznit123> just curious if this has been discussed before, and if so, where
[08:11] <[Nige] > anyone played with ipcop?
[08:11] <efox> earthen: np
[08:11] <Graig> what's ipcop?
[08:11] <Healot> somewhat Windows NT dynamic disk, LVM work with a basic disk though
[08:11] <feih> can anyone tell me how to enable write on this drive?: /dev/hda3       /media/hda      ext3    defaults        0       2
[08:11] <[Nige] > its a dedicated firewall
[08:11] <[Nige] > !ipcop
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about ipcop
[08:12] <Graig> ahh.
[08:12] <Healot> feih: the defaults says it can be written
[08:13] <feih> only by root..
[08:13] <polpak> feih: chown or chmod /media/hda
[08:14] <mephis1987> hello , i used Ubuntu default dictionary and how can i add more dict ?
[08:15] <dsas> mephis1987: edit->preferences then press add
[08:15] <mephis1987> dsas: do you know any German dict server ?
[08:15] <feih> polpak, it says chown: missing operand after `/media/hda'
[08:15] <dsas> mephis1987: I'm afraid not.
[08:15] <feih> and the same about chmod
[08:15] <Healot> feih: add the option "user" or "umask=0777"
[08:15] <sid> Does Ubuntu have a graphical reportbug program?
[08:15] <jasonm> im new to ubuntu, i need to edit the file xorg.conf to config my nvidia card... and then restart it,,, my question is that xorg.conf  is read only so how do i open it. second once i edit the file, how do i restart x.
[08:16] <DShepherd> hey
[08:16] <mendred> jasonm: u need to use sudo to open xorg.conf with whatever editor ur comfortable with
[08:16] <mendred> do alt-f2
[08:16] <Healot> and remove the defaults, replace "defaults" with "rw,user,umask=0000"
[08:17] <mendred> and type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:17] <jiger>  hello. does anyone know why data dvd is not usable on dapper?
[08:17] <mendred> make sure u check open in terminal
[08:17] <polpak> Healot: it's an ext3 partition.. he doesn't need to change how it's mounted he just needs to set the permissions right on the directory
[08:18] <mendred> click on the options button to make the run in terminal option visible
[08:18] <dsas> jiger: If other dvds (movies et al) don't work then maybe your dvd isn't recognised as being suitable for dma.
[08:18] <feih> i tried using nautilus as root to change em but it didnt work
[08:18] <predaeus> mendred: mind that he probably does not have kate. so it would be "gedit".
[08:18] <feih> god know if mount -a actually works
[08:18] <Healot> polpak: yeah... hence the mask...
[08:18] <mendred> yeah..thats why i mentioned whichever editor he uses
[08:18] <Healot> maybe leaving out the user option...
[08:19] <jiger> dsas: I don't have other dvds per se. All dvds I have are data dvds for my backup
[08:19] <jiger> dsas: these worked fine in breezy
[08:19] <jasonm> mendred, what would teh command be, plus i have two copies of the file, one being a backup i put on the desktop
[08:19] <jiger> dsas: and windows today too
[08:20] <mendred> jasonm: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <jiger> dsas: I have written it using k3b under Kubuntu
[08:20] <mendred> type ur user password
[08:20] <feih> neither worked at least with mount -a
[08:20] <feih> anyway thx u all that tried to help
[08:20] <mendred> jasonm: good that u have a backup..leave the one on ur desktop alone
[08:22] <mikeo1> man wtf, i have tried everything to restore grub from vista and nothing will work
[08:22] <jiger> never looks like it is a known bug in dapper
[08:22] <jiger> never mind
[08:22] <mikeo1> if vista destroys linux i dont think there is going to be a huge future for it lol
[08:23] <mikeo1> is there any failproof way to restore grub
[08:23] <Henk> mikeo1, boot from cd ;)
[08:23] <mikeo1> i did
[08:23] <mikeo1> like 10x
[08:23] <mikeo1> and did the restore thing
[08:23] <mikeo1> then hit restore grub
[08:23] <mikeo1> selected the partition
[08:23] <mikeo1> and typed /dev/sdb2
[08:23] <mikeo1> which is where ubuntu is at
[08:24] <Henk> mikeo1, i mean, make a bootcd yourself containing only grub to boot your own bootmenu (linux 1 windows 2)
[08:24] <mikeo1> then it said restoring grub or something like that, i rebooted, and vista bootloader was still there
[08:24] <Lynoure> mikeo1: ah, that's prolly the reason... Vista stuff is prolly in MBR, so that gets read first
[08:24] <mikeo1> i have no idea how to do that
[08:24] <mikeo1> while how do i overwrite it
[08:24] <DShepherd> where can i find an example of the dapper sources.list?
[08:24] <mikeo1> it worked fine with older versions of vista, i dont see how beta 2 should be any different
[08:24] <sid> Does Ubuntu have a graphical reportbug program?
[08:24] <Henk> mikeo1, do a grub-install /dev/hda
[08:25] <mikeo1> tried that
[08:25] <mikeo1> hmmm
[08:25] <mikeo1> will try again i guess with different hd combinations
[08:25] <Lynoure> sid: launchpad but that is web based, not GUI as such
[08:25] <mikeo1> does it matter which i select to mount as root before that
[08:25] <Lynoure> sid: or were you looking for one to use for your own project instead of reporting bugs about Ubuntu?
[08:26] <dsas> sid: No, I think there's one being developed as part of SoC. ALso there's been discussions about adapting the new bugbuddy.
[08:27] <sid> dsas / Lynoure http://blog.philkern.de/archives/177-First-SoC-status-report-Reportbug-Gnome2-GUI.html
[08:27] <sid> yea, there is a front end for gnome/reportbug there. interesting
[08:27] <sid> I wonder if that will interface with launchpad
[08:28] <sid> The guy is planning to make it so you can browse bugs that you've reported, see their history etc. Looks like a huge improvement to reporting bugs for the average users
[08:30] <mikeo1> finally got it
[08:30] <mikeo1> now anyone know how to run ubuntu with xgl on 2 monitors at different resolutions
[08:30] <mikeo1> one at wsxga+ and one at sxga
[08:30] <dsas> sid: I think there was a better specification out there somewhere....we're getting off topic anyway, so should really move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <sethk> mikeo1, I've done it, yes
[08:31] <mikeo1> is it hard
[08:31] <sethk> mikeo1, but it is really annoying
[08:31] <mikeo1> why is that
[08:31] <eobanb> mikeo1, i dont think anyone even really knows what 'wsxga+' is, so my suggestion would be to just say what the actual resolution is, in pixels
[08:31] <sethk> mikeo1, when you have, say, a window partly on one screen and partly on the other, it isn't terribly usable
[08:31] <sethk> eobanb, but it's easy enough to do, so try it and see what you think
[08:31] <mikeo1> 1680x1050 (left) and 1280x1024 (right)
[08:32] <mikeo1> while right now im at 1280x1024 and 1280x1024
[08:32] <mikeo1> and i find it usable
[08:32] <eobanb> mikeo1, i've gotten xgl running, but in regard to using it with multiple displays, i wouldnt know where to even begin
[08:32] <eobanb> mikeo1, maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:32] <mikeo1> would like to get the one on the left at its native res
[08:32] <mikeo1> have both runing in xgl right now fine tho
[08:32] <eobanb> that's the channel for those kinds of questions anyway
[08:32] <mikeo1> but at the same res
[08:33] <mikeo1> lol when it rotates its a BIG desktop
[08:33] <sethk> mikeo1, I was saying that running them at different resolutions gives annoying results, not running them at the same resolution
[08:33] <sethk> mikeo1, but, as I said, try it and see what you think of it.
[08:33] <mikeo1> ok how did you do it
[08:33] <eth42> I want to install dapper using the graphical installer. however, ubuntu is started with 640x480 screen resolution, and the installer simply doesn't fit on the screen (I cannot press any OK/Next button since I don't see it). What can I do?
[08:33] <eobanb> well that's an odd problem..
[08:33] <sethk> mikeo1, set up xinerama
[08:34] <eobanb> i've never heard of that happening.
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> eth42, try ctrl+alt+'+'
[08:34] <eobanb> eth42, what graphics card do you have
[08:34] <wastrel> eth42:  alt-click anywhere on the window to move it around :] 
[08:34] <mikeo1> Option          "RenderAccel"           "true";        Option "twinview";        Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf";        Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-70";        Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
[08:34] <mikeo1> what is xinerama?
[08:34] <sethk> eth42, what wastrel said; also, try control-alt-+ to cycle through other available resolutions
[08:34] <eth42> eobanb: some nvidia internal
[08:34] <eth42> sethk: higher screen resolutions are not configured
[08:35] <sethk> mikeo1, twinview is nvidia's proprietary multiple desktop thing.  xinerama is the open source equiv.
[08:35] <eth42> sethk: so ctrl-alt-+ doesnt work
[08:35] <eobanb> i guess do an alt-click then
[08:35] <mikeo1> does twinview do 2 different resolutions
[08:35] <sethk> eth42, if your hardware can't do higher resolutions, then set up a virtual resolution that is higher than the real resolution
[08:35] <eth42> eobanb: yes thanks about alt-click, I didn't know that
[08:35] <sethk> eth42, that way you can move around.  but alt-click is better if it does what you need
[08:35] <eth42> sethk: I was running every linux before on 1024x768
[08:36] <sethk> mikeo1, sure, both twinview and xinerama do different res's on the monitors.
[08:36] <eobanb> sethk, all he needs to do for the moment is run the installer
[08:36] <ppn> if i format a partition as ext3 will ubuntu auto-mount it for me?
[08:36] <sethk> eth42, ok, then it isn't a hardware issue
[08:36] <mikeo1> any help files on how to do this?
[08:36] <mikeo1> like is it just adding something to xorg?
[08:36] <sethk> eth42, I've seen that happen when the monitor is not automatically identified
[08:36] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone running swiftfox?
[08:36] <sethk> eth42, it defaults to 640x480.  You can do dpkg-reconfigure for X and tell it what resolution your monitor is capable of
[08:36] <eth42> sethk, eobanb: it's an nvidia4 mx
[08:37] <sethk> eth42, it isn't a card issue, it's most likely a monitor issue
[08:37] <eobanb> odd.  i have an mx 4000, eth42, and it does 1280 x 960 just fine.
[08:37] <sethk> eth42, even if it knows your card can do higher res, it won't do it unless it thinks your monitor can do so also
[08:37] <eobanb> sethk, yeah.
[08:37] <sethk> eth42, so do the reconfigure, then choose generic monitor 1280x960
[08:37] <skavenge> Anyone dealt with a Dell 1350 wireless nic? Worked with ndiswrapper for days, says driver and hardware is present yet in device manager it still says its using a broadcom 43xx driver? how do i tell HAL or whatever to use the ndiswrapper driver instead of what it thinks it is?
[08:37] <eth42> sethk: ok. shouldn't the installer make me aware of the fact that 640 x 480 is a bit low, and should run dpkg-reconfigure automatically?
[08:38] <sethk> eth42, I don't know, I didn't write the installer  :)
[08:38] <mitcheloc> could someone point me towards a name/word i can google regarding the "bit torrent service" installed with ubuntu?
[08:38] <eobanb> mitcheloc, i think you answered your own question
[08:39] <mikeo1> heh i love these mirrors, 128 updates downloading at 1.3mb/s
[08:39] <Healot> mitcheloc: you want to host trackers?
[08:39] <eth42> thanks so far, sethk and eobanb!
[08:39] <mitcheloc> Healot: no, just download stuff
[08:39] <YumPoo> ngifuna iphagaphaga inja
[08:40] <boudewijn> hello everybody, i need some support.
[08:40] <mitcheloc> eobanb: okay, i wasn't sure if there was a proper name for the official one in ubuntu... i figured i'd find many
[08:40] <eobanb> boudewijn, just ask the question
[08:40] <xeroz> hola
[08:40] <Healot> boudewijn: financial, we can't help you on that
[08:40] <YumPoo> I have a quesion as well
[08:40] <LazyBee> hombre
[08:40] <YumPoo> can someone here answer it for me?
[08:40] <xeroz> ?
[08:40] <eobanb> !helpme
[08:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:40] <xeroz> anybody speak spanhis
[08:40] <YumPoo> are muslims allowed to travel into outerspace and if so, how do they know which direction to pray?
[08:41] <eobanb> !es
[08:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:41] <xeroz> thanks
[08:41] <mitcheloc> eobanb: "ubuntu bittorrent service" doesn't return very good results...
[08:41] <eobanb> serious inquiries only, YumPoo
[08:41] <YumPoo> take your time to think about...
[08:41] <Venky> i have a wep encrypted wireless network but iam not able to connect to it...what shud i do
[08:41] <boudewijn> i installed a ubuntu server at work (dual k7, raid1) and after i installed it, autoupdate simply removed my smp-k7 kernel and replaced it with a default i386. how can i stop this from happening?
[08:41] <predaeus> YumPoo: I've heard of this problem before and they actually solved it, dont remember how they did it.
[08:42] <Madpilot> YumPoo, drop the offtopic stuff and behave - only warning.
[08:42] <mikeo1> so how do i raise the resolution in twinview
[08:42] <YumPoo> wuh oh....
[08:42] <Venky> earlier i was connected but now iam unable to connect using network monitor
[08:42] <YumPoo> you may as well kick my ass now because I am about to ask a really stupid question in 20 seconds
[08:43] <YumPoo> 10 seconds
[08:43] <eobanb> YumPoo, is it ubuntu-related?
[08:43] <YumPoo> not at all
[08:43] <YumPoo> 5
[08:43] <YumPoo> 4
[08:43] <eobanb> then don't ask it
[08:43] <YumPoo> 3
[08:43] <YumPoo> 2
[08:43] <YumPoo> 1
[08:43] <eth42> sethk, eobanb: I reconfigured xserver-xorg, gave the default answer for every question, and now it runs at 1024x768. very strange
[08:43] <ardchoille> Madpilot: Thank you
[08:43] <eobanb> eth42, good to hear
[08:43] <eobanb> i do sort of wonder what the question was, :D
[08:44] <freakin_cracker> *New to Ubuntu* Problem: updater does not find repositories. Fresh install, internet works (on it now), but when trying to update sys it fails connecting to servers. Links test good in browser. Any ideas?
[08:44] <eobanb> freakin_cracker, can you pastebin the exact error
[08:44] <eobanb> !tell freakin_cracker about paste
[08:44] <freakin_cracker> sec...
[08:45] <freakin_cracker> reading link on paste
[08:45] <boudewijn> ok, one more try:
[08:45] <sethk> eth42, not entirely strange.  Most likely there are kernel modules loaded now, that were not loaded during the config during install, that let it ID the monitor, or the card, or whatever.  It recognized something it missed the first time around
[08:45] <predaeus> !tell predaeus about paste
[08:45] <boudewijn> i dont want autoupdate to replace the kernel, how do i stop that from happening?
[08:46] <sethk> freakin_cracker, firewall between you and the 'net that is blocking that particular type of traffic
[08:46] <eobanb> sethk, that's possible, but unlikely
[08:47] <sethk> eobanb, Not necessarily unlikely.  We are dealing with nvidia here and that introduces strangeness in what people are willing to include in a given build
[08:47] <sethk> eobanb, and I haven't heard another explanation that is any less unlikely  :)
[08:47] <freakin_cracker> durf. ok. ill have to find info on firewall setup. disabled and is refreshing now. Thanks for putting me on track. :)
[08:47] <eobanb> sethk, uhmmm...what does nvidia have to dow tih firewalls
[08:47] <eobanb> do with*
[08:48] <sethk> eobanb, oh, sorry, you were talking about one problem and I was still thinking about the earlier one
[08:48] <sethk> eobanb, the firewall situation, I had that happen in two cases just today.  It is hardly unlikely.
[08:48] <eobanb> sethk, well apt just uses http on port 80....you'd have a pretty ridiculous firewall configuration for that to be the cause
[08:49] <sethk> eobanb, that's not quite correct.  apt uses either http or ftp file transfers, which are frequently blocked
[08:49] <sethk> eobanb, you can block http file transfers without blocking port 80
[08:49] <eobanb> sethk, well in any case he said he could access the respositories in a browser
[08:50] <sethk> eobanb, that doesn't really prove anything one way or the other
[08:50] <moshez> hi, I have a problem with xfig: at the beginning it doesn't manage to find a bunch of fonts with "times" in the name (I can copy'n'paste the list if it helps). Is there some fonts package I'm missing? ttf-freefont is installed. maybe I should reconfigure xfig to use other fonts?
[08:51] <boudewijn> thanks for the "help", i'll install a fedora server instead
[08:51] <eobanb> sethk, well if he--for some insane reason--had a packet-shaping firewall, then neither apt nor his browser would be working.  i would think it's just some problem with his apt-get
[08:51] <sethk> eobanb, that's not what I've been seeing.  What I see is exactly what he describes.  Browsing works fine.  I had to root them around the firewall for apt to function
[08:51] <sethk> eobanb, I'm going to get some traces on it tomorrow so I can see exactly what is blocked.
[08:52] <wastrel> browser's got a proxy in it
[08:52] <sethk> eobanb, I'm fairly sure it is blocking by mime type, but I'll have to confirm that.
[08:52] <wastrel> mebby
[08:53] <eobanb> sethk, hm, odd.  what sort of firewall would be doing that
[08:54] <n30n> will limewire run on linux under wine?
[08:54] <eobanb> n30n, sure, but i'd just go with the linux version of limewire.
[08:54] <eobanb> n30n, or better yet, frostwire
[08:54] <dibblego> will openoffice 2.0.2 run on dapper under GNOME?
[08:54] <n30n> eobanb: Idk how to install those packages without synaptic
[08:55] <wastrel> dibblego:  yes, that's the default version in dapper
[08:55] <dibblego> wastrel, have you actually seen it running?
[08:55] <sethk> eobanb, all of the commercial firewalls I've used do that
[08:55] <moshez> oh, well
[08:55] <wastrel> dibblego:  i've run it on my system yes
[08:55] <dibblego> wastrel, just to confirm, ooffice 2.0.2, dapper, GNOME?
[08:55] <eobanb> dibblego, yes..
[08:55] <wastrel> dibblego:  yes
[08:55] <Madpilot> dibblego, it's installed by default, yes...
[08:55] <n30n> eobanb: how do i install the linux packages
[08:56] <ardchoille> dibblego: yep, I'm using it now :)
[08:56] <mikeo1> how do i run twinview dual monitor setup at 2 different resolutions
[08:56] <dibblego> I've tried several times but it segmentation faults each time
[08:56] <mikeo1> one at 1680x1050 and the other at 1280x1024
[08:56] <dibblego> ardchoille, lucky bugger :)
[08:56] <ardchoille> :)
[08:56] <Madpilot> dibblego, you could have saved some time by saying, "OOo2.0.2 is segfaulting on me" right away, rather than "will it run?"...
[08:56] <eobanb> sorry n30n i've got to run.  search the ubuntu forum
[08:57] <dibblego> I get a seg fault when I sudo apt-get libstartup-notification0
[08:57] <mikeo1> the 1680x1050 monitor runing at 1280x1024 is killing my eyes
[08:57] <dibblego> Madpilot, I've tried that 3 times already - so I concluded that perhaps it just won't run for anyone
[08:57] <sethk> dibblego, that's a seg fault on apt-get, not on oofice
[08:57] <dibblego> sethk, right
[08:57] <mikeo1> how do i change it to 1680x1050
[08:57] <Madpilot> dibblego, OOo seems to run just fine here, fwiw...
[08:57] <dibblego> here are the details anyway: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1172599#post1172599
[08:58] <dibblego> it's actually gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders that seg faults
[08:58] <Madpilot> dibblego, have you filed a bug yet?
[08:58] <n30n> !frostwire
[08:59] <ubotu> frostwire is A totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:59] <dibblego> Madpilot, no, I haven't - being a bit of a noob, I was looking for confirmation if it were the case
[08:59] <dibblego> also, I don't know if there is any more information that I can provide (strace output - anything else?)
[08:59] <Madpilot> dibblego, from the look of that forum post, you've done a lot of bughunting already - post it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com and see what the experts say
[08:59] <dibblego> ok cheers
[09:00] <n30n> whats a tarball
[09:00] <dibblego> lol @ "Microsoft hasa majority market share"
[09:00] <sethk> n30n, a file containing other files, like a zip file in windows
[09:01] <Madpilot> dibblego, Bug #1 is very important :)
[09:01] <n30n> slow day,,,
[09:01] <sethk> n30n, what's a slow day?
[09:01] <Madpilot> n30n, it's an archive, something like a zip file, more or less
[09:01] <n30n> sethk: The room is like.. talk free
[09:02] <wastrel> is ghemical installed by default or did i install it and forget
[09:02] <wastrel> the second.
[09:03] <sethk> wastrel, I can't remember the question long enough to type the answer
[09:03] <ardchoille> wastrel: you must have installed it
[09:04] <filip> hi, are there floppy installation images?
[09:04] <filip> I can't burn a cd anywhere now and I have a goot net connection...
[09:06] <sethk> filip, they exist for slackware.
[09:06] <sethk> filip, I'm not sure whether they exist for ubuntu
[09:08] <donjuantao> filip: try main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[09:09] <n30n> I click to open frost wire but nothing happens. could it be that i am not in gnome?
[09:09] <ardchoille> n30n: try running it from a term and see if there is any error output
[09:11] <josh> When I make a call with the Gizmo Project, it hangs up on me after a few rings (testing using the tellme contact). I have only been able to connect a few times ever using Ubuntu, and I have tried multiple times.
[09:11] <josh> Does anyone know how I could fix this?
[09:12] <flamesrock> guys, I just installed lilo, but when I restart it says: L 07 07 07 07 07 ... 07 ad infintum
[09:12] <flamesrock> what do I do?
[09:13] <n30n> Dude when i try to run frostwire less than nothing happens
[09:13] <ardchoille> n30n: try running frostwire from a term and see if there is any error output
[09:13] <josh> n30n: YOu need to install Java. Use AutoMatix to install it and it should work.
[09:13] <n30n> whats the command for run
[09:13] <n30n> where AutoMatix
[09:14] <Madpilot> !automatix
[09:14] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[09:14] <donjuantao> flamesrock: did a hard drive become disconnected?
[09:14] <Arafangion> flamesrock: You need to _google_, "L 07 lilo", try the third result.
[09:14] <flamesrock> they're both connected :(
[09:14] <flamesrock> thanks Arafangion
[09:14] <Madpilot> n30n, automatix is a bad idea, is what it is - check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for installation
[09:15] <Arafangion> flamesrock: My assumption is that your lilo installation isn't quite right.
[09:15] <Arafangion> flamesrock: Isn't grub an option?
[09:15] <flamesrock> hmmmmm well I did change one thing
[09:16] <Arafangion> flamesrock: Personally, if at all possible, choose grub.
[09:16] <flamesrock> Arafangion: the trouble is that gentoo and windows are on hdb and the mbr is on hda
[09:16] <flamesrock> so I have to map using lilo
[09:16] <flamesrock> afaik that can't be done with grub....
[09:17] <Arafangion> flamesrock: Ahh, doing complicated multiple-boot situations? :)
[09:17] <josh> Does anyone else here use Gizmo? I need to test it calling a real person (not a bot).
[09:17] <donjuantao> I've done mapping with grub, not remembering how at this moment.
[09:18] <flamesrock> lol yeah
[09:18] <skavenge> Anyone dealt with a Dell 1350 wireless nic? Worked with ndiswrapper for days, says driver and hardware is present yet in device manager it still says its using a broadcom 43xx driver? how do i tell HAL or whatever to use the ndiswrapper driver instead of what it thinks it is?
[09:18] <flamesrock> if I could find out how to do that with grub, I would definately choose it
[09:19] <donjuantao> flamesrock: it's here : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html
[09:19] <Orborde> Is there any way I can update directly from 5.04 to 6.06 without first upgrading to Breezy per the wiki directions, or do I need to take twice as long and perform TWO OS upgrades?
[09:19] <flamesrock> thanks donjuantao :D
[09:19] <n30n> dude tha tis the least helpful link ever.
[09:19] <wastrel> hi
[09:20] <wastrel> ok bye
[09:20] <n30n> well lemme refraze that, its helpfulbut its confusing me
[09:20] <spades> skavenge find out whats loading the bad driver (lsmod) and modprobe -r it
[09:21] <n30n> !multiverse
[09:21] <Orborde> Could I simply change every occurrence of "hoary" to "dapper" in sources.list and hit apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, or is more required?
[09:21] <Madpilot> n30n, the bot seems to have crashed, or something
[09:21] <josh> I believe you need to use dist-upgrade
[09:21] <spades> Orborde use && instead of ; so it waits to finish first before going on
[09:22] <n30n> !multiverse
[09:22] <Madpilot> Orborde, do hoary->breezy, dist-upgrade, then breezy->dapper - don't skip versions
[09:22] <n30n> snapx
[09:22] <Orborde> Madpilot: Er....why?
[09:22] <n30n> ubotu nooooooooooooooooooo
[09:22] <Orborde> Madpilot: It takes twice as long.
[09:22] <Madpilot> Orborde, apparently skipping versions can really, really break things - haven't tried it myself, I'll admit...
[09:23] <Orborde> spades: Won't ; wait for it to complete as well?
[09:23] <Orborde> Madpilot: Well, if this doesn't work, we'll simply burn a CD and reformat :)
[09:23] <n30n> i can't find sun java5 in the add/remove files thing
[09:23] <polpak> Orborde: or you can just backup your /home directory to a different partition, then just install dapper fresh
[09:23] <Madpilot> n30n, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:23] <Yonda> I had tightvnc viewer working fine to another ubuntu box, but then i added a password, and now I get an error - xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" without it even offering a sapot for a password
[09:23] <polpak> !info sun-java5-bin
[09:24] <n30n> Madpilot: That is the site im at i can't find what it is telling me i have to find
[09:24] <Madpilot> n30n, have you enabled the Multiverse repo?
[09:24] <Madpilot> polpak, we're botless :(
[09:24] <dibblego> when I attempt to report a bug, it says "an error has occurred", but nothing more
[09:24] <n30n> Madpilot: yes
[09:24] <polpak> n30n: well, just enable the universe/multiverse repository then just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin  and then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:25] <snoops> I'm going to be running dapper desktop 386 on a machine used for server type things.. but wanting to demonstrate xgl/compiz etc.. I won't have a monitor plugged into that computer.. I would like to remote into it via vnc fist, since I prefer to work with guis when I can
[09:25] <n30n> polpak: that didnt work
[09:25] <polpak> n30n: define "didn't work"
[09:25] <snoops> how can I get vnc setup that when the machine is turned on, vnc server is started
[09:25] <Madpilot> n30n, after you enabled Multiverse & Universe, did you do "sudo apt-get update" or hit the Refresh button in Synaptic?
[09:25] <n30n> Madpilot: I've had multiverse enabled for weeks
[09:26] <n30n> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:26] <Madpilot> n30n, you sure? sun-java5-bin should be there somewhere
[09:26] <Madpilot> n30n, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[09:26] <n30n> want me to paste my source.list in pasetebin
[09:26] <n30n> ok
[09:26] <Geev8> am using k3b to write video cd but it report K3B doesm not copy a CDs with multiple data tracks what should i do
[09:26] <fedex> hi!!!! I wonder if there is a way to install dapper rite into a broken breezy, and save just ONE folder with 20 gigs of data....
[09:27] <fedex> without erasing the whole disk and no backup........?
[09:27] <Yonda> I had tightvnc viewer working fine to another ubuntu box, but then i added a password, and now I get an error - xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" without it even offering a sapot for a password
[09:27] <dibblego> I have filed a bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50836 fwiw
[09:27] <n30n> Madpilot: its being slow
[09:28] <Fracture_> I recently performed a clean install of dapper, from a system that was dist-upgraded from breezy, and my system is definately more stable and performant.
[09:29] <n30n> Madpilot: it will be under n30n
[09:29] <Madpilot> n30n, paste the URL to your pastebin here, please?
[09:29] <n30n> Madpilot: its stiilllllll sending
[09:29] <Madpilot> dibblego, launchpad will tell you when someone gets to your bug
[09:30] <dibblego> Madpilot, you mean it will send me an email?
[09:30] <n30n> http://pastebin.com/728532
[09:30] <Madpilot> dibblego, yes
[09:30] <dibblego> righto cheers
[09:30] <asathoor> hi
[09:31] <Madpilot> n30n, you're not kidding about pastebin.com being slow...
[09:31] <Madpilot> next time use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:31] <L-----D> hi dibblego , didn't you from ##java
[09:31] <foxiness> i have general Q,its about oracle-xe i have server and client package,if i installed the client can i use it with out the server? because am new to oracle
[09:31] <dibblego> L-----D, didn't I what?
[09:32] <n30n> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16355
[09:32] <L-----D> dibblego, never mind
[09:33] <dsas> foxiness: You presumably can (not sure of the xe version specifics), you could use it to connect to an oracle server on another machine for example.
[09:33] <asathoor> any suggestions on how to change the size of partitions?
[09:33] <dsas> asathoor: You could try gparted
[09:33] <polpak> n30n: you don't have multiverse enabled.. and you should comment out the CD repo
[09:33] <asathoor> ok
[09:33] <Madpilot> n30n, you don't have multiverse enabled. - use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 instead
[09:35] <asathoor> thanx found it
[09:35] <n30n> Madpilot: ok sorry. I have two comps running the same os i forget which one i did what on
[09:35] <fedex> yeah, asathoor i am intereted in creating and resizing partitions prior to install dappet to save my data....without a backup
[09:35] <Bot_Builder> This is kinda spam, but its opensource and nice... http://digg.com/software/Inkscape_.44_Released
[09:35] <polpak> Bot_Builder: it's in the repos.. though it's an earlier version
[09:36] <asathoor> fedex >> i have /home on a separate partition, it's nice because your data is more secure.
[09:36] <Bot_Builder> yeah, i know.  since this chan has 700 people in it, if a few dugg it, that would be nce
[09:36] <Ion|> !w32codecs
[09:36] <foxiness> dsas, did you know how to launch the client ?
[09:37] <dsas> foxiness: The client is just cli stuff isn't it? sqlplus, tnsping etc?
[09:37] <fedex> asathoor. i know, but i didn't go that way the last THREE times I changed distros, and now I am here...stuck with 20 gigs on info, no dvd burner, running a crappy non ubuntu live OS........
[09:37] <Bot_Builder> If it gets on the mainpage it means more inkscape users.  Then more people that actually look for opensource solutions, eventual converts to ubuntu :P
[09:37] <n30n> Madpilot: frostwire still doesn't run
[09:37] <asathoor> fedex >> aargh .... not nice 8-)
[09:38] <fedex> I wonder if someones would help partitioning out my /home and the either running desktop or alternative dappers, got both
[09:38] <Madpilot> n30n, did you do that java reconfigure thing from the wiki's Java page?.
[09:38] <n30n> what was the site again
[09:38] <asathoor> fedex >> could an external HD help?
[09:38] <polpak> n30n: well, just enable the universe/multiverse repository then just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin  and then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:38] <fedex> i meant "someone" and "then either running"
[09:38] <Fracture_> I have a strange issue in dapper, clean install, where in programs like evolution, gedit and a few others, in the menus it displays like this :  "New    keyboard label|Ctrl+N"
[09:38] <Geev8> how can i enable K3b to copy Cds with multiple data track
[09:38] <foxiness> dsas, i want to try this ver i dont have any idea about it , i just see it on my frineds pc centOS and i like it,its GUI "what i saw"
[09:39] <Fracture_> the "keyboard label|" bit is what's odd.. its all over the place
[09:39] <fedex> yep, but dont have THAT either...no HD linux flavored
[09:39] <polpak> Fracture_: is your home directory from a previous version?
[09:39] <fedex> asathoor : I would like to install from here, not format
[09:39] <foxiness> dsas, i think this come with the server ,becuase nothing on the menu "after i installed the client"
[09:40] <Yonda> I had tightvnc viewer working fine to another ubuntu box, but then i added a password, and now I get an error - xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" without it even offering a sapot for a password
[09:40] <Fracture_> polpak: sort of.. I used to have breezy, then dist-upgraded to dapper.  but because of instability I re-installed clean, and kept my home folder.
[09:40] <asathoor> fedex >> have to go, nice talking to u
[09:40] <dsas> foxiness: It's probably oracle not integrating with ubuntu well.
[09:40] <dsas> foxiness: I don't know much about the oracle gui stuff but it's called sql-developer probably.
[09:40] <Geev8> how can i enable K3b to copy Cds with multiple data track
[09:40] <fedex> /
[09:41] <n30n> Madpilot: Im confused. I did sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin then sudo update-alternatives --config java and picked stick with default
[09:41] <dsas> foxiness: try running: sudo updatedb && locate sqldeveloper
[09:41] <polpak> Fracture_: the only problem w/ doing that is you carry over all the old configs which might not be right. If instead you move your old home dir to a new directory name before you install, then your user will be created with the right config files in the home dir and you can copy over your data (non .files) from your old home dir
[09:42] <foxiness> dsas, yes i use alien to convert the rpm package to deb
[09:42] <dsas> foxiness: If that gives you results then it's installed, it's just a matter of then finding the right file to execute.
[09:42] <Madpilot> n30n, don't do that - pick the one with sun & jre in the file names
[09:42] <polpak> n30n: no, you need to choose the sun java
[09:42] <polpak> n30n: when you update-alternatives
[09:42] <Fracture_> polpak: I didn't want to do that, since I would loost all of my customisations / settings from apps.  I thought it would be ok, since I was using dapper anyway.
[09:43] <dsas> foxiness: If you get a list of files try running "sqldeveloper" in the terminal (without quotes)
[09:43] <n30n> Mapilot: once again you save my day
[09:43] <n30n> polpak too
[09:43] <polpak> Fracture_: dunno, but I had that same thing happen to me. and it was solved by making a new admin user, then using that admin user to remove my user (after moving the non-config files) then recreating my user and moving my files back
[09:44] <Fracture_> polpak: hrm. I gues I'll have to do that.
[09:45] <foxiness> dsas, no i can not find it , i will try to install the server package
[09:45] <polpak> Fracture_: you can always try moving over the important configs (firefox etc)
[09:45] <polpak> Fracture_: as those are probably fine
[09:45] <Bot_Builder> In the name of OSS, digg! http://digg.com/software/Inkscape_.44_Released
[09:46] <Fracture_> polpak: yeah, and evolution
[09:46] <polpak> Fracture_: yep
[09:46] <fedex> so? any ideas? with gpartED?
[09:46] <kholerabb1> Hello
[09:47] <foxiness> dsas, thanks for your help
[09:47] <dsas> foxiness: No problem. Good luck.
[09:47] <Yonda> I had tightvnc viewer working fine to another ubuntu box, but then i added a password, and now I get an error - xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" without it even offering a sapot for a password
[09:47] <kholerabb1> Anyone know if there is some sort of folder manager (or even file system) that uses something more like lables/tags rather then folders?
[09:48] <Madpilot> !bot
[09:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:48] <Madpilot> !goodbot
[09:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about goodbot
[09:49] <Gonzo> any unarchiver supports zip made in several files?
[09:49] <Lobster> !Lobster
[09:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about Lobster
[09:49] <Lobster> :(
[09:49] <Gonzo> rofl
[09:50] <Gonzo> !zip
[09:50] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[09:50] <Gonzo> :(
[09:50] <Gonzo> already tried
[09:50] <N3o21> hi...
[09:50] <Lobster> fileroller wont work?
[09:50] <N3o21> :)
[09:50] <Gonzo> ok havent tried file roller
[09:50] <Beta_M> Gonzo:  which format do you have problems with
[09:51] <Gonzo> Beta_M:  its a zip with several archives
[09:51] <N3o21> Can I change a codepage for one connection in Ubuntu?
[09:51] <Gonzo> as in a .zip .01 .02 .03
[09:51] <Lobster> may try 7zip with wine :D
[09:51] <Gonzo> it will only pick the .zip
[09:51] <Beta_M> Gonzo:  p7zip is for GNU/Linux
[09:51] <Gonzo> trying to avoid emulating
[09:51] <Lobster> you have to extract the .zip...
[09:51] <Gonzo> k
[09:51] <Beta_M> Gonzo:  but it's command line only
[09:51] <Lobster> the other files will extract automatically
[09:52] <Gonzo> installing now
[09:53] <Beta_M> i'm off of here, sorry have to go
[09:53] <n30n> I need something that will play .mov files
[09:53] <elkbuntu[LT] > !restricted
[09:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <Gonzo> n30n: vlc?
[09:53] <Bot_Builder> yeah, vlc seems to work magic for me
[09:53] <n30n> Gonzo: it froze when i tried that
[09:54] <Gonzo> shrug
[09:54] <Gonzo> isn't there quicktime for linux?
[09:54] <n30n> idk
[09:54] <Bigtrade> can anyone help me , i just installed ubuntu and need help doing some tasks
[09:54] <Lobster> don't think so...
[09:54] <sword-> i just recently recompiled my kernel to 2.6.16.16 and having trouble installing the nvidia module
[09:54] <n30n> sudo rm etc
[09:54] <sword-> how should i go through about it? using module assistant or what
[09:54] <n30n> jk!
[09:55] <KenSentMe> Bigtrade: just ask what you want
[09:55] <Bigtrade> ok KentSentMe
[09:55] <Bigtrade> here it goes
[09:56] <Gonzo> 7z did not pick the other files :(
[09:56] <Bigtrade> when i finished mi ubuntu installation and tried to boot to xp using grub i got the ntdlr message
[09:56] <Bigtrade> and cant boot to xp anymore
[09:56] <Lobster> Gonzo, you can't extract the .zip?
[09:57] <Gonzo> it extracts the .zip
[09:57] <Bigtrade> i know how to fix these
[09:57] <Gonzo> but not the rest .01 .02 .03 ...
[09:57] <Bigtrade> but my question is
[09:57] <Bigtrade> once fixed
[09:57] <Bigtrade> it will break again next time i boot my ubuntu ?
[09:57] <Lobster> Gonzo, it usually does that automaitcly
[09:57] <Gonzo> will try with unzip
[09:57] <PerlRonin> 'lo!  Coming from kde, I've taken a look at the kubuntu-desktop package, but it seems, that the gnome admin utilities integrate a bit better.  The gnome window manager though sucks big time (at least in the default configuration).  Are there recommended alternatives?  Or is there a hidden advanced configuration panel?
[09:58] <KenSentMe> Bigtrade: keep your question in one line please
[09:58] <Bigtrade> ill try
[09:58] <KenSentMe> Bigtrade: what is the fix exactly?
[09:58] <snoops> you could take a look at xubuntu PerlRonin
[09:58] <Bigtrade> you need to insert xp cd an choose to trepair the install and thats it
[09:59] <josh> who jenda
[09:59] <snoops> what's the exact message you got when you try to boot xp with the grub loader Bigtrade?
[09:59] <snoops> "Windows cannot find ntldr?"
[09:59] <Bigtrade> ntdlr s missing ctrl alt del to reboot again
[10:00] <Bigtrade> yes thats it snoops
[10:00] <PerlRonin> snoops: You mean, running the gnome stuff from out of xfce?  But where would I need all the other xfce stuff for.  Only the behaviour of the window manager is nagging me (up to now ;-)
[10:00] <snoops> oh, thought you were asking to try another window manager PerlRonin
[10:00] <snoops> what behaviour is bugging you the most?
[10:00] <PerlRonin> snoops: Yes, another window manager, *not* another desktop
[10:01] <xenex> would it be a good idea to run VMware for windows and then install guild wars and play it that way?
[10:01] <Krhis> xenex, No DircetX support under VMWare. Already tried it,
[10:01] <xenex> damn
[10:01] <PerlRonin> snoops: Resizing and moving windows without using the handles, e.g. using alt and click into window.  Defining keys to launch applications (I loke ctlr-alt-insert to start a xterm).  Stuff like that.
[10:02] <xenex> cedega looks complicated
[10:02] <PerlRonin> snoops: When gnome was using sawfish, all that could be configured.
[10:02] <snoops> how did you install ubuntu Bigtrade - did you let it resize partitions and create new ones, or did you have already have it partitioned?
[10:02] <KenSentMe> xenex: Cedega isn't that complicated
[10:03] <xenex> KenSentMe: to me it is
[10:03] <Krhis> I play GW too.
[10:03] <xenex> Krhis: what version of cedega do you use?
[10:03] <Krhis> I don't use cedega.
[10:03] <xenex> Krhis: what do you use?
[10:03] <Krhis> I duel boot.
[10:03] <xenex> oh
[10:03] <xenex> -_-
[10:03] <Krhis> ^_^
[10:04] <Bigtrade> i did it in a separate new disk outside the xp disks
[10:04] <spycedtx> is there anyone around running dapper under vmware that has bluetooth working?  it's borked after the move from breezy to dapper.
[10:05] <KenSentMe> xenex:
[10:05] <snoops> did grub install itself on the mbr of the old hdd (with windows) or the new hdd?
[10:05] <xenex> KenSentMe: yes?
[10:06] <heatxsink> hello all, for some reason auto mount isn't working on this pcmcia compact flash card reader
[10:06] <KenSentMe> xenex: sorry, hit the return button too fast. What makes cedega complicated for you? The most annoying thing is that it costs money
[10:06] <dli> heatxsink, do you have pcmcia support?
[10:06] <Bigtrade> following intall instruccion it should be on the new disk
[10:06] <heatxsink> dli
[10:06] <heatxsink> it's sensing the card
[10:06] <heatxsink> I can even mount it
[10:06] <heatxsink> manually
[10:07] <heatxsink> it used to mount the card automatically
[10:07] <snoops> and you have it set to boot from that new hdd, rather than the old one Bigtrade?
[10:07] <Bigtrade> since install detected my previous xp offered me to install grub
[10:07] <xenex> KenSentMe: i can't find 5.1.1, and i refuse to pay for it. :p
[10:07] <dli> heatxsink, do you have the dev in /etc/fstab ?
[10:07] <heatxsink> yup
[10:07] <heatxsink> I do
[10:07] <heatxsink> should I not have it there?
[10:07] <dli> heatxsink, you should comment it out
[10:07] <KenSentMe> xenex: you have to pay for it to be able to download the installer
[10:07] <snoops> I'm wondering if grub is pointing xp to the wrong disc
[10:07] <xenex> KenSentMe: not if you are a pirate
[10:08] <Bigtrade> i havent set a thing  dunno how yet , but when i turn the box on it lets me choose which OS i want to boot to
[10:08] <snoops> if you set it to boot from old one, does it all work?
[10:08] <L-----D> !wireless
[10:08] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[10:08] <dli> heatxsink, if you are running gnome, run gnome-volume-properties to double check your settings after that
[10:08] <KenSentMe> xenex: ok, then it's not complicated, but just hard to find
[10:08] <snoops> (grub shouldn't be loading)
[10:08] <xenex> KenSentMe: yeah.
[10:08] <Bigtrade> nop i wont work in any way , even if i remove the ubuntu disk
[10:09] <heatxsink> dli:  error: device /dev/hda1 is not removable
[10:09] <heatxsink> error: could not execute pmount
[10:09] <Bigtrade> i guess grub is in the xp disk
[10:09] <snoops> if you remove the ubuntu disc, does grub start?
[10:10] <snoops> or what error do you get
[10:10] <Bigtrade> otherwise i should not bee seeing it with the ubuntu disk remioved
[10:10] <snoops> yeah exactly
[10:10] <Bigtrade> i still have the same error
[10:10] <Bigtrade> il work it out i guess
[10:10] <snoops> is the new drive a sata one?
[10:10] <Bigtrade> nop is an old quantum bigfoot 4gb , new so to speak
[10:10] <Bigtrade> LOL
[10:11] <snoops> first thing I'd do, as you say is repair the mbr of the old disc.. get xp going again.. then boot off of the live cd
[10:11] <heatxsink> dli:  ping?
[10:11] <snoops> chroot into your ubuntu installation on the quantum bigfoot
[10:11] <Bigtrade> and then ?
[10:11] <snoops> install grub on the specified hdd (rather than let it manually decide)
[10:11] <Bigtrade> ok
[10:11] <Bigtrade> yep
[10:12] <snoops> I'll grab the article
[10:12] <snoops> it goes through the steps heh
[10:12] <Bigtrade> im learning , just 24  hours on the penguin side and a life looking over the window
[10:12] <Yonda> I had tightvnc viewer working fine to another ubuntu box, but then i added a password, and now I get an error - xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" without it even offering a spot for a password
[10:12] <snoops> (you just need to be absolutely sure which hdd is your bigfoot and which hdd is the windows one)
[10:13] <snoops> ubuntu installed grub in the wrong mbr for me too Bigtrade, it was a problem with sata drives and such
[10:13] <Bigtrade> i allready know that
[10:13] <snoops> after that it was all very cool
[10:13] <Bigtrade> my xp drives are sata
[10:13] <Gonzo> anyone here use synergy?
[10:13] <Bigtrade> this one is an old ide
[10:14] <snoops> you can also 'backup' your mbr and partition table if you want in ubuntu Bigtrade
[10:14] <snoops> incase you ever need to restore
[10:14] <dli> heatxsink, I suppose you are making some simple mistake, if not, you may have to configure ivman yourself
[10:14] <Bigtrade> ill try to read a lot , thats a god way to learn , linux has an obscene amount of docs and papers !
[10:15] <_shane> it's all right when i use it in my university by wireless,but at home, i got some problem, each time i use 'apt-get' i have to ping the target address manully, otherwise i got error msg 'time out', is there anyone help me
[10:15] <Bigtrade> hope not need to restore ever again!
[10:15] <_shane> i guess it may cause by my router
[10:15] <Bigtrade> greetings snoop and thanks everyone for the help !
[10:16] <Bigtrade> snoops
[10:16] <spycedtx> is there anyone around running dapper under vmware that has bluetooth working?  it's borked after the move from breezy to dapper.
[10:16] <snoops> Bigtrade just one minute, getting link
[10:16] <Bigtrade> ok ok
[10:16] <Bigtrade> ill wait
[10:16] <spycedtx> or maybe has some ideas as to why i can see it via lsusb, but hci* sees no device
[10:18] <snoops> BiGcaT https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows then click on in the table of contents "Preparing your working environment"
[10:18] <snoops> whoops.. damn tab complete
[10:19] <default> hi
[10:19] <Krhis> Hi default.
[10:20] <Bigtrade> reading it snoops thanks again
[10:20] <Bigtrade> where from ?
[10:21] <snoops> oh and for future references Bigtrade if you want to backup your mbr and partition table just do in terminal "dd if=/dev/yourhdd of=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1"
[10:21] <Awesome-o2000> NICE!!! i got my wireless working
[10:21] <heatxsink> dli:  stupid
[10:21] <heatxsink> dli:  dumb ass syntax error in fstab
[10:21] <heatxsink> duh
[10:21] <sword-> exit
[10:21] <default> I have a(hopefully) short question: Until 5 minutes ago I was using the i386 version of the current kernel. Then, I downloaded the i686 model of the same kernel version. Now, of course, my individual configuration is not transferred to the new kernel (e.g. fglrx module etc.) is there a way to copy the settings of my old kernel to my new one?
[10:21] <dli> heatxsink, okay
[10:23] <Awesome-o2000> how do I edit my runlevel services in ubuntu?
[10:24] <dli> Awesome-o2000, you can do in gnome menu, System->Admin-> services
[10:25] <dli> Awesome-o2000, or, have a look at /etc/rc3.d and update-rc.d
[10:25] <_shane> hi, is anyone with me?
[10:25] <heatxsink> dli:  you know it's still NOT automounting
[10:25] <heatxsink> damn this
[10:25] <_shane> i just asked a question.
[10:25] <Andruk> Awesome-o2000, i have that videotape of you dancing like brittany spears and making out with a cardboard cutout of kevin federline ;)
[10:26] <dli> heatxsink, read dmesg to locate the error message, plugin, and dmesg|tail
[10:26] <Awesome-o2000> Andruk, as long as you dont need a suppository
[10:26] <KenSentMe> _shane: you've probably had this suggestion before, but do you connect to your network with dhcp or static ip?
[10:27] <_shane> oh, DHCP
[10:27] <Gonzo> hmmm this computer is suddently rejecting connexion to its server from another computer
[10:27] <Gonzo> what could cause that?
[10:27] <Gonzo> i guess a firewall but i never really configured one..
[10:27] <Gonzo> it use to work...
[10:27] <KenSentMe> _shane: have you tried setting your network card to a static ip
[10:28] <dli> Gonzo, elaborate ? " rejecting connection"
[10:28] <Awesome-o2000> dli, the gui app is only for normal services, Im looking to go to what every other distro has a runlevel 3
[10:28] <Gonzo> well ok... i run a synergy server and a apple talk server
[10:28] <Awesome-o2000> console boot
[10:28] <Gonzo> it use to work fine...
[10:28] <KenSentMe> Gonzo: what server are you running?
[10:28] <Gonzo> but now the clients are not connecting anymore
[10:28] <KenSentMe> Gonzo: ah, ok
[10:29] <Gonzo> i assume i have something blocking the computer
[10:29] <heatxsink> dli:  I can't find any kind of error!!!!
[10:29] <Gonzo> its just a computer on my lan network
[10:29] <Andruk> lol
[10:29] <heatxsink> dli:  this is retarded!!!
[10:29] <Gonzo> i've installed iproute and iptable from synaptic but didn't configure anything
[10:29] <Gonzo> and havent changed anything
[10:29] <Andruk> A-02K: can you clean my room?
[10:30] <Gonzo> any idea   where i can say to this computer here to allow everything from a specific ip address?
[10:30] <KenSentMe> Gonzo: maybe you can install firestarter and check your iptable settings
[10:30] <dli> Gonzo, you may " iptables -L "
[10:30] <_shane> KenSentMe: not yet, at first i can not view web page in firefox, but after i disabled the IPv6 in firefox, it's ok,
[10:30] <christianp> hi all
[10:30] <Gonzo> yep that should help thx
[10:30] <KenSentMe> !network
[10:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[10:30] <KenSentMe> !networking
[10:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[10:30] <Gonzo> i was kind of looking for a gui program to admin the firewall
[10:31] <dsas> Gonzo: firestarter
[10:31] <christianp> a newbie question: i install dapper, but i notice ryhthmbox doesn't sounds mp3 file. Where can i find the correct codec?
[10:31] <Gonzo> cool thx
[10:31] <Gonzo> i'll see what i can do with that
[10:31] <dsas> !tell christianp about restrictedformats
[10:31] <Andruk> so, im having a problem accessing my ntfs partitioned HDDs, it says i dont have the permissions to view that file, and root is the owner, if you like, i can post my fstab
[10:32] <_shane> KenSentMe: but i still can not use other internet applications,
[10:32] <KenSentMe> _shane: go to System->Administration->Network and try setting a static ip. Fill in the correct settings and than try if this helps you solving the problem
[10:33] <_shane> KenSentMe: all right,i am trying, i'll be right back,  thanks
[10:33] <christianp> thanks dsas
[10:33] <christianp> :)
[10:33] <KenSentMe> _shane: good luck
[10:33] <Andruk> Awesome-o2000: I need some help here bro
[10:33] <dsas> christianp: No problem.
[10:33] <KenSentMe> Andruk: are you running dapper?
[10:34] <Yonda> When changing icons, is there an easier way then changing 'em one by one?
[10:34] <Andruk> uh...yeah
[10:34] <Andruk> thats the latest one?
[10:34] <KenSentMe> !ntfs
[10:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:35] <KenSentMe> Andruk: that's right. Have you read the above wiki page?
[10:35] <stefg> Ahh, i see the discussion is treating the right issues :-) I'm kind of a n00b in networking and have set up a virtual Win-Machine in vmplayer to run some legacy apps, which need web-access. What actions would i have to take to make Ubuntu 'protect' the Win-VM?
[10:35] <Awesome-o2000> Andruk, whats going on
[10:35] <Andruk> i have not, i didnt know of their existence, thank you!
[10:36] <KenSentMe> Andruk: you're welcome
[10:36] <spycedtx> !bluetooth
[10:36] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[10:36] <rockin_stan|lap> can anybody tell me, what I have to do, to make kubuntu search for new network devices and write them to /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:36] <spycedtx> well, that page isn't helpful
[10:36] <spycedtx> !hcitool
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about hcitool
[10:37] <KenSentMe> !info hcitool
[10:37] <ubotu> Package hcitool does not exist in dapper
[10:37] <dsas> rockin_stan|lap: I'm just *guessing* but running /etc/init.d/networking may do what you want
[10:38] <rockin_stan|lap> dsas: thx, will give it a try
[10:38] <spycedtx> i know, it's part of bluez-utils
[10:38] <spycedtx> just thought there might be something somewhere about hci* being borked under dapper when under vmware *sigh*
[10:38] <rockin_stan|lap> dsas: this only restarts existing networks...
[10:39] <stocksy> hello
[10:39] <stocksy> I'm having trouble setting up lighttpd + php5-cgi
[10:40] <stocksy> lighttpd starts, but when I request a php page, it segfaults :(
[10:40] <Nickste> hey all :)
[10:41] <dsas> rockin_stan|lap: I don't know then. tbh I'd have guessed it would just work.
[10:42] <Gonzo> is it possible to have more than 1 firewall at the same time (i know... why would you)
[10:42] <Nickste> I'm having a problem installing kubuntu dapper. It loads up and almost loads the desktop, but then as it is loading icons, it just hangs. Any ideas?
[10:42] <rockin_stan|lap> k, dsas, thx for trying
[10:43] <KenSentMe> rockin_stan|lap: i thought usually new network devices are automaticly added to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:43] <KenSentMe> rockin_stan|lap: are you trying to install a wireless device btw?
[10:43] <rockin_stan|lap> KenSentMe: not here. Yes, its a wireless device
[10:43] <KenSentMe> !wireless
[10:43] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[10:44] <KenSentMe> rockin_stan|lap: maybe this can help you
[10:44] <rockin_stan|lap> thx KenSentMe
[10:45] <KenSentMe> rockin_stan|lap: no problem
[10:48] <illusin1> I had problems on ubuntu with my previous box. Problems like, I can't even boot without x.org server not starting etc -- but I purchased a new box, a new video card, new mobo, etc, and I am experiencing the same problems. I did however take some of the components out of the old box and put them into this new box, namely my sound card, and the drives. Could these be causing problems like I just mentioned? Basically, how would one su
[10:49] <patrick_king> !mp3
[10:49] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <patrick_king> !restricted
[10:49] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <LazyBee> help help I`m so happy with ubuntu
[10:52] <KenSentMe> LazyBee: take a cold shower :)
[10:52] <LazyBee> thanks ;p
[10:55] <michael> hi mates
[10:55] <Gonzo> hmmm guys... i setup firestarter and allowed everything i could find from my computer that is getting its connection rejected and yeah... its not really helping
[10:55] <michael> i have problems with ati fglrx driver and ubuntu dapper on an amd64 system ... did someone get it running?
[10:55] <Gonzo> :(
[10:55] <KenSentMe> michael: hi
[10:55] <Gonzo> is it possible that i have another firewall blocking the packets before it reaches firestarter?
[10:56] <vanden> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 (Linux newb) and most recent TB on my laptop. Yesterday,my laptop froze coming out a reboot and I had to power down. Rebooted, and rebooted again with forced fsck. Now when launching TB, my folders never get populated and my cpu usage jumps to 100%. TB never responds, and I have to kill the processes. Any suggestions?
[10:58] <Andruk> Awesome-o2000: I read the Automatically Mount Partitions thing, and it didnt help, it referred me to...here.
[10:58] <Andruk> lemme post my fstab, and we can get this giggured out
[10:58] <cmk> c moi
[10:59] <cmk> i don t speak french
[10:59] <cmk>  il y quelqu1
[11:01] <Andruk> your guys pastebin sucks
[11:02] <apokryphos> Andruk: why do you think that?
[11:03] <Andruk> its really slow..
[11:03] <apokryphos> very fast here
[11:03] <apokryphos> never noticed any lag
[11:03] <Andruk> weird...im on a 4Mbit connection...
[11:04] <Andruk> yeah, after i click send, it just really slows down
[11:04] <Andruk> but, i guess that its pastebin in general, not just you guys...
[11:04] <apokryphos> all the time, or just today?
[11:04] <michael> is there anyone who installed fglrx on amd64 without problems?
[11:05] <Andruk> ive just been noticing it today
[11:06] <Andruk> finally:http://pastebin.com/728587
[11:06] <Hit3k> If I have a script and i want to put it in /usr/bin but the program needs other files how do i do it?
[11:08] <dsas> Hit3k: Tell the script where to look for the other files. Put the other files in the proper place.
[11:08] <KenSentMe> Andruk: i've noticed pastebin.com being slow too, i use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:08] <Hit3k> can i symlink or something?
[11:09] <rpedro> Hit3k: and it's better to use the /usr/local hierachy to put custom files
[11:09] <snoops> hey umm how do you burn a cd image to cd in ubuntu?
[11:10] <Andruk> thx
[11:10] <Hit3k> snoops, use k3b
[11:10] <KenSentMe> snoops: use gnomebaker
[11:11] <jbcnle> Hi what's the best way to get the locate db working
[11:11] <jbcnle> I would like to have it update regularly
[11:12] <Madpilot> snoops, even easier - find the ISO, right-click on it, select Burn To Disc. Done. :)
[11:12] <snoops> ah cool
[11:12] <dsas> jbcnle: It's should run every night. to update it use "sudo updatedb"
[11:12] <Andruk> http://pastebin.com/728587  is my fstab, how do i get the hda1 and hdb5 (ntfs partitions) to be able to be read by my user (not root)?
[11:13] <snoops> it didn't give the option since it was over smb over a network.. I
[11:13] <ackzys> is bad eyestrain a common problem when using ubuntu's default display setup? i have an ati mobility x300 board in my laptop
[11:13] <snoops> I'll just copy to local
[11:13] <jbcnle> thanks dsas
[11:13] <dibblego> what's the locate db?
[11:13] <dsas> dibblego: It indexes all your file names so you can quickly find them by doing "locate <search_string>
[11:13] <DrNickRiviera> how do i change what a block device link like dvd points at?
[11:13] <backz> who have a AMD64 CPU? do you prefer ubuntu for amd64 or default 32b ?
[11:13] <dibblego> tighto
[11:14] <DrNickRiviera> backz: getting 64bit ubuntu to work can be pretty hard
[11:14] <DrNickRiviera> depends on your system though
[11:14] <dibblego> righto even
[11:15] <backz> /whois DrNickRiviera
[11:15] <backz> hum
[11:15] <michael> i have amd64, installed dapper 64
[11:15] <rpedro> backz: the flash plugin for firefox, for example, doesn't work in 64bit ubuntu since macromedia have not released a 64bit version
[11:16] <backz> DrNickRiviera: I was problems with skype, doom3, opera, flash plugin, firefox, java sun, and all stuff that isn't free/opensource...
[11:16] <michael> i yusthave problems with fglrx and breezy
[11:16] <backz> yes
[11:16] <Andruk> Awesome-o2000: http://pastebin.com/728587 is my fstab, how do i get the hda1 and hdb5 (ntfs partitions) to be able to be read by my user (not root)?
[11:16] <michael> not, breezy, dapper
[11:17] <michael> so if u hat an ati-card install breezy .... had no luck with dapper
[11:17] <salmiak_> i got a problem with amaroK. It won't play my songs :/
[11:17] <backz> michael: but now I'm running 32b edition on my amd64 and I dont feel lost of performance
[11:17] <Gonzo> hmmm how can i have a .4 on my network when i only have .1 router .2 this computer .3 the other computer...?
[11:18] <ackzys> getting bad eyestrain when using default adapter on an ati board, any reason for this?
[11:18] <Gonzo> ackzys:  what refresh rate is your monitor?
[11:18] <Gonzo> 60hz?
[11:18] <salmiak_> amarok just jumps through the songs like they are not available...anyone got an idea? :)
[11:18] <ackzys> 60Hz LCD, sorry
[11:19] <michael> i lost performence, when i tried 32 bit
[11:19] <Gonzo> try at 75
[11:19] <Gonzo> 60 is meant to be bad
[11:19] <ackzys> and that setting is unchangeable of course
[11:19] <negocio> can anyone tell me how tu run DOS with vmware, or how to run foxpro for DOS in vmware?
[11:19] <DrNickRiviera> salmiak: could be the mp3 codec missing
[11:19] <ackzys> unchangeable for laptop LCD
[11:19] <DrNickRiviera> or engine setup in the wrong way
[11:19] <haggis> hey guys
[11:19] <Gonzo> ackzys:  you're probably running in too high resolution
[11:19] <Gonzo> reduce your resolution and you should be able to change it
[11:19] <salmiak_> mp3 codec.... *checks*
[11:19] <ackzys> hm, i never could before, but i will try that.
[11:19] <ackzys> brb
[11:19] <Andruk> if your having eyestrain, its prolly your monitor than anything else, except for the resolution
[11:19] <haggis> i just installed Drapper i cant seem to get acsess to the net or my router they
[11:20] <Gonzo> in 1600x1200 i can't set 75hz
[11:20] <Gonzo> but with 1280x1024 i can
[11:20] <Gonzo> it depends on your monitor
[11:20] <ackzys> andruk: well it is a laptop lcd and has never done this to me before
[11:20] <rpedro> !restricted
[11:20] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <rpedro> salmiak_: ^^
[11:20] <Gonzo> yeah im talking crt here but 60hz is usualy bad for your eyes
[11:20] <haggis> i just installed Drapper i cant seem to get acsess to the net or my router they are both set up with DHCP and in the networking section it seems to be set to IPv6 not IPv4 is this a common problem
[11:20] <Gonzo> nyway im the only one not noticing it but at work everyone go nuts when they look at my screen
[11:21] <ackzys> but i switched from debian back to windows, and then to ubuntu a couple of days ago and I really notice the difference between windows and ubuntu for whatever reason
[11:22] <Andruk> if tis a laptop screen, then it prolly will give you screenburn or eyestrain, that was one good thing about CRT's-they never hurt my eyes
[11:22] <haggis> i just installed Drapper i cant seem to get acsess to the net or my router they are both set up with DHCP and in the networking section it seems to be set to IPv6 not IPv4 is this a common problem
[11:22] <haggis> and how do i cahnge to IPv4
[11:22] <Gonzo> hmmm i think im being hacked...
[11:23] <ackzys> hm
[11:23] <Lynoure> Gonzo: hmm, what are the symptoms you are basing that opinion on?
[11:23] <Andruk> anybody wanna help with an fstab problem?
[11:23] <ackzys> well i don't see why it would help, but i kicked my res down and notch and we'll see
[11:23] <haggis> lol any 1 know about any networking in ubuntu lol
[11:23] <ackzys> I've always thought lcd was easier on the eyes
[11:23] <Gonzo> well i have a 10.1.1.4 on my network and i only have 2 computers on my network
[11:23] <salmiak_> rpedro, i got the latest mp3 codec plugin
[11:24] <Gonzo> i can't access my router nymore ...
[11:24] <Gonzo> and there's some network activity on 10.1.1.4
[11:24] <Gonzo> this computer is 10.1.1.2 and the computer next to me is 10.1.1.3
[11:24] <haggis> it wroked ok with brezzy lol just installed drapper there and lo luck
[11:24] <Gonzo> my rrouter 10.1.1.1
[11:25] <haggis> yeah but the standerd IP cofig that i can see on drapper is IPv6 not v4
[11:25] <Gonzo> do you think thats a valid sign?
[11:25] <rpedro> salmiak_: try draging the files from a nautilus window, maybe your amarok database is not updated, you may need to do it manually
[11:25] <Lynoure> Gonzo: Is that your home network or something else? Wired/wireless?
[11:25] <Gonzo> yes home network
[11:25] <Gonzo> no wireless
[11:25] <haggis> no its wired
[11:25] <haggis> under DHCP
[11:25] <Gonzo> wired yea
[11:25] <Gonzo> yep
[11:26] <haggis> gonzo u speaking to me
[11:26] <freakabcd> hi all
[11:26] <Gonzo> someone told me that an attacker could spoof theeir ip as a local network ip address...
[11:26] <Gonzo> dunno if its true...
[11:26] <haggis> yeah but the standerd IP cofig that i can see on drapper is IPv6 not v4
[11:26] <Gonzo> but i can ping 10.1.1.4
[11:26] <salmiak_> rpedro, it was the mp3 codec after all. I use xine and not gstreamer in amarok, and xine mp3 codec wasn't installed
[11:26] <enyc> Gonzo: well needs more details
[11:26] <salmiak_> thanks
[11:26] <freakabcd> sound doesn't work in firefox for flash files!
[11:26] <Gonzo> what detail do you want?
[11:26] <Jowi> Gonzo: so access the router from another computer and turn off port forwarding. simple.
[11:26] <haggis> i just installed Drapper i cant seem to get acsess to the net or my router they are both set up with DHCP and in the networking section it seems to be set to IPv6 not IPv4 is this a common problem and how do i change to IPv4
[11:26] <freakabcd> do i need to update the flasdh plugin?
[11:26] <freakabcd> i can't understand this
[11:26] <enyc> Gonzo: from outside a NAPT gateway that is unlikely to do anything
[11:27] <Lynoure> Gonzo: depends on how your router is configured. Unlikely to work with reasonable configurations
[11:27] <Gonzo> its default configuration... i only enabled port forwarding for azarus
[11:27] <Gonzo> and yeah i can't access the web interface of my router nymore
[11:27] <rpedro> salmiak_: what version of amarok are you using? cause the version I have (1.4.0 the latest one) doesn't have a gstreamer yet, and xine seems to work fine for me
[11:27] <enyc> Gonzo: with non-NATTing systems... this can happen if there is no ingress-filtering for that
[11:27] <enyc> heh
[11:27] <Jowi> Gonzo: turning off port forwarding (called virtual server in some routers) will disable incoming connections but will not do anything if your computer want access to the outside.
[11:28] <rpedro> salmiak_: oh, nvm
[11:28] <Gonzo> hmmm gimme a sec... i'll go try a few things
[11:28] <salmiak_> :) thanks for your time
[11:28] <salmiak_> :D
[11:28] <haggis> does any know how to change from IP6 to IP4 so i can get acsess to my router
[11:28] <enyc> I have a router box (wan gateway) with fixed real IP addresses on both side and NO nat/napt and NO firewall and NO http/ftp/tftp/telnet  on it ;-)
[11:28] <enyc> and it does NO crashing ;-)
[11:29] <michael> i have a problem with fglrx and dapper. when i installed the latest driver from ati my xserver freeze with a black screen ... was no problem with breezy
[11:29] <malv> how would I test my network within linux?
[11:29] <malv> i suspect I have a crappy router
[11:29] <Gonzo> ok nevermind... my compute rjust randomly changed its local i address to 10.1.1.4 instead of 10.1.1.2//
[11:29] <Gonzo> rofl...
[11:29] <Gonzo> thats kinda funny...
[11:29] <enyc> hrrm
[11:30] <enyc> DHCP lease expired
[11:30] <Gonzo> probably something like that
[11:30] <michael> any ideas?
[11:30] <Gonzo> scared me for a bit
[11:30] <Gonzo> thx anyway guys
[11:30] <enyc> michael: look into wiki/bugs...
[11:31] <Andruk> hey...so anybody wanna help on an fstab problem, i have read the automatically mount partition page/s
[11:31] <michael> i did allready, googled for hours tried everything
[11:31] <Lynoure> Gonzo: After a scare, one often feels so deliciously safe :)
[11:31] <haggis> guys i need help here i cant get any acsess to the NET at all just installed Drapper. worked fine with brezzy when i installed
[11:31] <Gonzo> not that much...
[11:32] <Gonzo> but at least i have a firewall now
[11:32] <Gonzo> :P
[11:32] <Gonzo> was worth he effort
[11:32] <della> hi... strange problem: the fglrx module, which was in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-k7 was loading smoothly, now the one in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7 doesn't load
[11:32] <haggis> guys i need help here i cant get any acsess to the NET at all just installed Drapper. worked fine with brezzy when i installed
[11:32] <della> della@marvin:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[11:32] <della> Fatal_2: Module fglrx not found.
[11:33] <michael> anyone suceed in installing fglrx on dapper amd64?
[11:33] <Andruk> anybody succeed in getting fstab to work?
[11:33] <feetyfeetz> hiya. for some reason, i cant change the GTK widget theme. so no matter what i pick, its stuck on Human. any ideas? thanks in advance
[11:33] <della> haggis: system->administration->network?
[11:33] <haggis> can any 1 even see what am typing
[11:33] <KenSentMe> haggis: yes
[11:34] <andii> how can i fix " Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) "?
[11:34] <haggis> della: thx mate i have tried that i am set up under DHCP still no luck
[11:34] <rpedro> della: are you sure you have package xorg-driver-fglrx installed?
[11:34] <rpedro> della: you need that package too
[11:34] <Madpilot> andii, use sudo, rather than messing with root
[11:35] <della> rpedro: yes, it was working ok before upgrading the kernel
[11:35] <della> but now the problem is that it can't *find* the module
[11:36] <Andruk> am i invisible, or are people just ignoring me.  i wont stay up any later if people are just going to ignore me...
[11:36] <feetyfeetz> they cant answer everyone
[11:36] <feetyfeetz> just wait
[11:36] <della> Andruk: what does "getting fstab to work" mean?
[11:36] <Toge> hello
[11:36] <della> it's difficult to find an answer to such a question
[11:37] <jbcnle> I'm trying to get aliases working in my .bash_profile - nothing I seem to add gets picked up in a new shell
[11:37] <Toge> how can i see all my pci cards?
[11:37] <jbcnle> any suggestions ?
[11:37] <dsas> Toge: lspci
[11:37] <noiesmo> Toge, lspci
[11:37] <Toge> thanks
[11:37] <GTroy> help me!!!
[11:37] <KenSentMe> Andruk: this is my /etc/fstab with ntfs mounted, maybe it helps you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16357
[11:38] <DarkMageZ> Andruk, you aren't supplying enough useful information for someone to answer your question, yes fstab works if u use it correctly
[11:38] <Andruk> *sighs*: i posted this a few times now, and i have read some documentation: http://pastebin.com/728587 is my fstab, how do i get the hda1 and hdb5 (ntfs partitions) to be able to be read by my user (not root)?
[11:38] <GTroy> simple...do I buy an duo core dell? or go for the macbook?
[11:38] <della> jbcnle: try .bashrc
[11:38] <jbcnle> will do
[11:38] <Madpilot> Andruk, have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?
[11:38] <Andruk> yes
[11:38] <GTroy> anyone feel up to making my mind up?
[11:38] <Andruk> it referred me to here
[11:39] <KenSentMe> Andruk: have you seen my post?
[11:39] <GTroy> because I would ditch windows and stay with ubuntu
[11:39] <dsas> jbcnle: Did you try running ~/.bash_profile?
[11:39] <Andruk> uh...where?
[11:39] <Raskall> Seveas: you  there?
[11:39] <Lynoure> GTroy: Depends on what you want. I went for something else (HP NC8230) and have been very happy
[11:39] <Seveas> Raskall, no
[11:39] <Andruk> i do not believe i have seen your post
[11:39] <jbcnle> not running it dsas - what do you mean that
[11:39] <KenSentMe> Andruk: this is my /etc/fstab with ntfs mounted, maybe it helps you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16357
[11:40] <GTroy> Lynoure, ok
[11:40] <jbcnle> just editing it dsas
[11:40] <Lynoure> GTroy: Ubuntu Laptop tema pages might help you to decide, if you haven't looked at those already
[11:40] <Raskall> Seveas: :) I get "404 Not found" both on your dapper freenx repo and trying to download the gpg-key for apt.
[11:40] <GTroy> !laptop team pages
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about laptop team pages
[11:40] <KenSentMe> Andruk: damn pastebin is slow
[11:41] <Martyn> How do i change IP addy types from IPv6 to IPv4
[11:41] <Lynoure> GTroy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:41] <Seveas> Raskall, which repo?
[11:41] <GTroy> thanks lynoure
[11:41] <dsas> jbcnle: Try typing ./bash_profile
[11:41] <GTroy> appreciate the help
[11:41] <dsas> jbcnle: ./.bash_profile rather.
[11:41] <Raskall> Seveas: deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
[11:41] <Seveas> that mirror is out of sync currentlt
[11:41] <Raskall> Seveas: ok
[11:42] <Seveas> put a '/' between 'freenx' and the key id
[11:42] <Seveas> the packages are up to date
[11:42] <Martyn> any 1
[11:42] <Martyn> How do i change IP addy types from IPv6 to IPv4
[11:42] <KenSentMe> !anyone
[11:42] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:42] <Andruk> KenSentMe: okay, that might, what is the gid=46 on the ntfs mount point for?  Specifically, what is group 46?
[11:43] <Andruk> and yeah pastebin is slow, but nobody believed me, lol
[11:43] <Raskall> Seveas: no amd64-files?
[11:43] <KenSentMe> Andruk: group 46 is plugdev, don't know why it's needed
[11:44] <Martyn> Well no i seems to have a clue how to do this . all i need to is cahnge from ip6 to ip4 so i can get acsess to my routher via DHCP my Nforce ethernet card seems to have defaulted to IP6 i cant seem to change it at all this is a frexh install
[11:44] <jbcnle> dsas sudo: ./.bash_profile: command not found
[11:44] <Andruk> KenSentMe: do you have write permission to the ntfs partition?  Isn't the default settings rw?  I only want ro...
[11:44] <della> hi... strange problem: the fglrx module, which was in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-k7 was loading smoothly, now the one in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7 doesn't load: modprobe says "module not found"...
[11:44] <dsas> jbcnle: Are you in your home directory?
[11:44] <sjoerd> Martyn: are you sure you have an ipv6 ip ? Anyway the two can run in parrallel, so you don't have to change from one to another
[11:45] <jbcnle> yeah
[11:45] <Timmy_> Hows the meat out there?
[11:45] <KenSentMe> Andruk: this is how fstab is created by ubuntu
[11:45] <Seveas> Raskall, nx isn't 64bit safe
[11:45] <KenSentMe> Andruk: haven't changed it
[11:45] <Yonda> I can't seem to find a way to minimise Banshee to the taskbar
[11:45] <Timmy_> Im not liking Ubuntu, i might switch to windows
[11:46] <Raskall> Seveas: *sigh*
[11:46] <Timmy_> JOKING
[11:46] <Timmy_> im gonna switch to slackware though
[11:46] <jaggz-> I've not used slackware for 10 years
[11:46] <Martyn> sjoerd: yeah am sure that it is. i cant get any acsess to the net or my router at all. i have checked in the admin>networking its set to DHCP and under networking tools its syas my network card is set to IPv6 protocol and i cant change it to IPv4 . this is a net install
[11:46] <Martyn> sorry new install
[11:46] <Timmy_> vbgh\
[11:46] <dsas> jbcnle: You don't need sudo.
[11:47] <Timmy_> sorry
[11:47] <jaggz-> actually, that's not correct.. I have used it on some systems (on which I installed it) since then
[11:47] <jbcnle> der you're right
[11:47] <jaggz-> any idea why my terminal (I think this is gnome-terminal) is updating kind of slow?
[11:47] <Timmy_> BENIS
[11:47] <jaggz-> like when running vi, the ~'s down the left hand side redraw very slow
[11:47] <default> I have a(hopefully) short question: Until 5 minutes ago I was using the i386 version of the current kernel. Then, I downloaded the i686 model of the same kernel version. Now, of course, my individual configuration is not transferred to the new kernel (e.g. fglrx module etc.) is there a way to copy the settings of my old kernel to my new one?
[11:48] <jbcnle> dsas problem is it still says permission denied
[11:48] <sjoerd> Martyn: what's your ipv6 address in network tools then ?
[11:48] <Martyn> sorry new install
[11:49] <GreySim> Hey, I found howtos for encrypting partitions on the wiki, but does anyone know where I might be able to learn how to encrypt just a folder in Ubuntu?
[11:49] <dsas> jbcnle: chmod 755 .bash_profile
[11:49] <JDredd> how would I edit a config file from the terminal if I can't get gedit working?
[11:49] <Martyn> sjoerd: its ok i have just sorted it just someithing u sead there i have manged to add IPv4 and now its wroking
[11:49] <sjoerd> :)
[11:49] <Martyn> thx mate
[11:49] <Martyn> whats Fgrlx
[11:49] <dsas> JDredd: just use editor <filename>
[11:50] <JDredd> dsas: ok, thanks
[11:50] <Andruk> KenSentMe: this is so weird...your thing worked on one of the partitions...
[11:51] <Raskall> Martyn: fglrx is ATI's own ATI graphic card drivers.
[11:51] <balony> What's the command to reconfigure system locale?
[11:51] <Raskall> balony: sudo dpkt-reconfigure locales
[11:51] <Raskall> balony: ehh.. dpkg
[11:52] <dsas> jbcnle: if it's still not working, would you show me how you're trying to alias things?
[11:52] <Raskall> that is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[11:52] <toggleswitch> Hi All. Just lurking to check what's happenin' in Ubuntuland:;)
[11:52] <KenSentMe> Andruk: but not on all?
[11:52] <GreySim> Ah, nevermind, found what I was looking for (I think).  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/encryption_with_encfs_and_pam-encfs
[11:52] <jbcnle> dsas not trying to alias anything
[11:52] <jbcnle> ah
[11:52] <jbcnle> sorry dsas
[11:52] <jbcnle> yeah
[11:52] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Nope, just on the first one, I still want/need the second one, and the third i dont care about
[11:53] <jbcnle> alias z3start='/var/lib/zope/z3_01/bin/zopectl start'
[11:53] <KenSentMe> Andruk: so the first one works properly?
[11:53] <KenSentMe> Andruk: that's strange indeed
[11:54] <dsas> jbcnle: Hmm, that looks fine. what happens if you log in on a tty (ctrl+alt+f1) and try it?
[11:54] <jbcnle> let me chack
[11:54] <alex__> how to install new sounds on ubuntu? is there something like a sound manager
[11:54] <jbcnle> bah on a mac
[11:54] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Sorry for being vague, yes, the first one works just fine, the second still tells me I don't have enough permissions to access it.
[11:55] <jbcnle> this is a remote server
[11:55] <dsas> alex__: Does system->preferences->sound do what you want.
[11:55] <KenSentMe> Andruk: and the lines in fstab are the same for all of the ntfs partitions?
[11:55] <dsas> jbcnle: Ok, so what does logging in and then out do?
[11:55] <dsas> jbcnle: Or just logging in again.
[11:55] <jbcnle> yeah I do that
[11:55] <jbcnle> to test
[11:56] <jbcnle> doesn't work
[11:56] <dsas> jbcnle: I'm not sure what's going wrong then, sorry.
[11:56] <jbcnle> it's ok thanks dsas
[11:56] <gizmo_the_great1> I have a Sony Ericsson K750i Mobile phone with a 64Mb memory stick in it. When I used Breezy I just plugged it into the USB port and it was automatically mounted and I could access my pictures. Since upgrading to Dapper Drake, this has stopped. I plug it in, it makes a little sound and starts charging (so I know connection is OK) but Ubuntu does not see it. Any ideas?
[11:56] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Yes
[11:56] <KenSentMe> Andruk: can you repost your fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[11:57] <KenSentMe> Andruk: this one works faster
[11:57] <rpedro> jbcnle: use ~/.bashrc instead
[11:58] <ParaSiteMob> hello. I would like to use a svn client in the shell using "svn co foo" etc. what package is required for installation?
[11:58] <timas> Howdy folks, anyone around to answer some questions?
[11:58] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Don't believe me, eh?  Lol, okay, it's here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16359
[11:58] <rpedro> ParaSiteMob: sudo apt-get install subversion
[11:59] <timas> I'm having trouble getting my drives mounted when I reboot my machine and select a kernel thats newer than the -19 version
[11:59] <ParaSiteMob> rpedro,  ok it's what i though. I was just afraid that it will install me a svn server (with apache etc)
[12:00] <rpedro> ParaSiteMob: for me, it didn't , I just used svn to get a source tree to compile Xgl
[12:01] <ParaSiteMob> rpedro, ok thanx
[12:01] <toggleswitch> gotta go - keep up the good work.
[12:02] <timas> no-one for my mounting issues?
[12:03] <KenSentMe> Andruk: indeed, can't find anything strange, maybe you could try to set umask=0 or something
[12:03] <McScruff> sudo mount <drive> <where to>
[12:03] <timas> nono
[12:03] <timas> McScruff: It's at boot
[12:03] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Okay, I will, what is umask?
[12:04] <KenSentMe> !umask
[12:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about umask
[12:04] <KenSentMe> hmm
[12:04] <timas> McScruff: I see the Kubuntu logo popup and it goes "Finding root drive" or somesuch and then it comes with "Waiting for root drive" and then I get put back into a betterbox (?)
[12:04] <Andruk> nope, didnt work
[12:05] <KenSentMe> Andruk: put it back to 007 then. I've have no suggestions anymore
[12:05] <GreySim> !paste
[12:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:05] <Andruk> okay, thanks, you did help me a lot!
[12:06] <KenSentMe> Andruk: one suggestion, can you mount the 2nd and 3rd partition if you uncomment the first by putting a # in front of it's line?
[12:07] <GreySim> Anyone have any idea why I might not be able to access /dev/fuse here?  Sorry if it's obvious, but I don't know a whole lot about file permissions.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16360
[12:07] <snoops> how can I get rdesktop to support copy and paste?
[12:08] <snoops> it's so frustrating how I can't copy some text from ubuntu, then paste it into my rdesktop windows box.. vice versa (I can do this with remote desktop connection in windows)
[12:09] <alex__> how to copy a file into a dir that can use only root
[12:09] <KenSentMe> alex__: use sudo
[12:09] <alex__> and than
[12:10] <KenSentMe> !sudo > alex__
[12:10] <GreySim> Grr, gotta take off for a bit.  If anyone answers my question, thanks in advance.  :)
[12:10] <alex__> i know only rm for remove
[12:10] <KenSentMe> alex__: interminal sudo cp filename /folder
[12:10] <KenSentMe> *in terminal
[12:11] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Yes, hdb1 works when i comment out hda1
[12:11] <KenSentMe> Andruk: and the third also?
[12:11] <KenSentMe> Andruk: or just that one, and not 2 at a time?
[12:11] <ParaSiteMob> I have a directory which is a symbolic link to another directory. I can't delete it using rm -df directory. can anyone help?
[12:12] <rpedro> ParaSiteMob: what is the error message
[12:13] <dli> ParaSiteMob, "rm foo" will rm the link (not the directory itself)
[12:13] <ParaSiteMob> rpedro, rm: cannot remove `projects/': Is a directory
[12:13] <ParaSiteMob> dli, yeah, that's what I wanted
[12:13] <rpedro> ParaSiteMob: use rmdir to remove directories
[12:13] <ParaSiteMob> I want to delete it and recreate it as a hard link
[12:14] <Andruk> KenSentMe: I think I figured it out, with a ton of your help.  The umask's have to be different for each drive theyre on.  Lemme get you another thing.  They all work now...
[12:14] <dli> ParaSiteMob, " man rm " for more, or use a GUI file manager, say, nautilus
[12:14] <kimo> USB auto-mounting stopped working after I upgraded from breezy to dapper. When I connect I USB memory stick now syslog shows it as sda[1] . If I manually mount it I can read it. Any suggestions for how to get it to automount when connect it?
[12:14] <ParaSiteMob> dli, Nautilus!! that's a good idea ;) sorry guys, I'm quite new to linux hehe
[12:15] <KenSentMe> Andruk: that's strange i think, because umask defines the user rights
[12:16] <rpedro> ParaSiteMob: or if you really want to use a terminal, try Midnight Commander (apt-get install mc)
[12:17] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Yeah, nm on that, they can all be the same. I think part of the problem was that I wasn't umounting some of the drives, before I mount -a, so the changes didn't take place.  And I also didn't refresh the Konqueror screen.
[12:17] <Madpilot> alex__, "sudo rm stuff/to/remove" - and be careful :)
[12:17] <malik2> hi, i upgraded and kernel 2.6.12-9-386 was installed
[12:17] <KenSentMe> Andruk: ah, but it all works now?
[12:17] <malik2> only problem: before there was /lib/modules/formerkernel/sound
[12:17] <malik2> now there isnt and my sound doesnt work
[12:17] <Andruk> KenSentMe: Yes, thank you very much.
[12:18] <malik2> what is the ubuntu way to fix something like this?
[12:18] <KenSentMe> Andruk: you're welcome
[12:18] <Andruk> KenSentMe: You just saved my view of linux
[12:18] <malik2> (ie without compiling my own kernel)
[12:18] <ParaSiteMob> can't I create a hard link to a directory?
[12:18] <kimo> What program or package is responsible for automounting?
[12:18] <Andruk> KenSentMe: I was starting to think I was gonna have to get one of my compsci friends over to fix it, but none of them know or like linux...
[12:19] <KenSentMe> Andruk: lol
[12:19] <rpedro> ParaSiteMob: see man ln
[12:20] <Andruk> thx, and gnight
[12:22] <cbx33> Is there a specific channel for ubuntu-server?
[12:22] <GlemSom> I was trying to install Ubunto onto a fakeraid0 using this guide: ( http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto ) but when I'm in the chrooted environment trying to install dmraid I get this error: http://pastebin.linuxfromscratch.org/?show=2674
[12:26] <Madpilot> cbx33, #ubuntu-server - not very busy, I don't think
[12:29] <ikabot> Hi. Does anyone on here use Rosegarden on Ubuntu?
[12:30] <ParaSiteMob> can't I link to a mounted partition? ln: creating hard link `./projects' to `/mnt/shared/projects': Invalid cross-device link
[12:31] <ikabot> I've just installed Ubuntu and I want to get Rosegarden now.
[12:32] <kimo> Hard links only work within a partition.
[12:32] <Madpilot> ikabot, it's in the Universe repo
[12:32] <Madpilot> !universe
[12:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and !easysource
[12:32] <kimo> If you want to link to a different partition us a symbolic link (ln -s)
[12:32] <ikabot> Thanks guys. So I can just do an apt-get from there?
[12:33] <malik2> if i reinstall linux-image-2.6.12-10-386, shouldnt there be a /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/sound directory?
[12:33] <malik2> if not, where to get it?
[12:35] <bearnik> hi guys
[12:35] <Madpilot> ikabot, yes
[12:35] <ikabot> Thanks Madpilot.
[12:35] <Madpilot> np
[12:39] <Bassetts> Morning, my pc has been a bit weird over about the past 2 days, startup is taking longer and the time it takes GDM to start is considerably longer, and just now on this boot i got "filestystem has been mounted more than 30 times without being checked"
[12:39] <Bassetts> Any ideas why at all?
[12:40] <KenSentMe> How can i enable ssl for remote cups administration?
[12:40] <hyphenated> Bassetts: and you think that message has something to do with your gdm problem?
[12:41] <airzer0> STFU
[12:41] <Madpilot> airzer0, grow up, or leave
[12:41] <Bassetts> hyphenated: i have no idea, i mean it just hung for a few seconds while i removed openssh-server, it never did that before
[12:41] <airzer0> lol
[12:41] <airzer0> oooooow
[12:42] <Hit3k> How do i make my ntfs partition readable by all the users on my system?
[12:42] <Bassetts> somethings just not right with it
[12:42] <Hit3k> I cant chmod
[12:42] <airzer0> u suck
[12:42] <Bassetts> heh
[12:42] <Hobbsee> bleh.  i just came in and i'm sick of that.
[12:42] <Hobbsee> Hit3k: do you know about /etc/fstab?
[12:43] <Hit3k> Hobbsee, i wasnt aware you could set it with that..
[12:43] <Hit3k> thanks
[12:43] <hyphenated> Bassetts: open a terminal, run the command 'dmesg' and put all of the output in a pastebin
[12:43] <Hobbsee> Hit3k: yeah you can.  modify this line, and stick it in your /etc/fstab.  "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0"
[12:43] <Madpilot> !ntfs
[12:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[12:43] <Madpilot> Hit3k, ^^^ see ubotu's URL there
[12:43] <Hobbsee> Hit3k: modify where the ntfs partition is, and where you want it mounted
[12:43] <Hit3k> yeah Hobbsee you basically got it right anyway :p
[12:43] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:44] <Hit3k> thanks
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Hit3k: well that's where mine's mounted
[12:44] <Bassetts> hyphenated: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aQI3tW59.html
[12:44] <Hit3k> nls is the <options> bit right?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Hit3k: yeah
[12:44] <Hit3k> the last 0 is pass?
[12:45] <stefg> This is how my fstab entry for ntfs looks like : /dev/hda2       /media/win2000  ntfs    defaults,noauto,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46   0       0
[12:45] <Hit3k> or dump
[12:45] <hyphenated> Bassetts: it's more likely to be related to vmware than anything else
[12:45] <Bassetts> i would like to know what the "filesystem has been mounted more than 30 times without being checked, check forced"
[12:45] <hyphenated> Bassetts: it means exactly what it says
[12:45] <alth> Hey guys. I'm having a really strange new problem. My monitor keeps turning itself off for a few seconds every couple of minutes. It wasn't doing this yesterday.
[12:45] <Bassetts> hyphenated: well it was working fine till someone in here told me to stop vmware while trying to write dvds/cds
[12:46] <Bassetts> hyphenated: then the result of that was "non-contigous 13.1%" or something like that, it had them words
[12:48] <hyphenated> every time you mount a filesystem, it increases a bit of info on the disk. you can run 'sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/hda1' to see the info that's stored about the disk, including 'Mount count'
[12:48] <speedsix> Hi does anyone use ScummVM in Dapper?
[12:49] <hyphenated> a number that high (13.1%) is a bit of a worry. it should have automagically run 'fsck' for you to check and fix errors
[12:49] <Hit3k> Hobbsee, so after i edit the fstab do i just mount the filesyste,
[12:49] <Bassetts> hyphenated: ok, i think my problems have something to do with gnomebaker and vmware
[12:49] <Hobbsee> Hit3k: yep
[12:49] <Bassetts> hyphenated: that was on my /home partition
[12:49] <concept10> anyone here using XGL with an ATI card?
[12:49] <Hit3k> cool thanks :D
[12:49] <hyphenated> Bassetts: yeah. I don't think you should worry about the drive that much.
[12:50] <SeanTater> speedsix: never even heard of it
[12:50] <Bassetts> hyphenated: ok, it started after i installed gnomebaker, stopped vmware, wrote a dvd, reset, started vmware
[12:51] <SeanTater> !info scummvm > SeanTater
[12:51] <ubotu> scummvm: free implementation of LucasArts' S.C.U.M.M interpreter. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1444 kB, installed size 3688 kB
[12:51] <hyphenated> Bassetts: and now you're having "slowness" problems?
[12:51] <speedsix> The version in Dapper refuses to scale to fullscreen. Has anyone got it installed?
[12:51] <Bassetts> yes, hangs, long startup, and gdm takes alot longer to start
[12:52] <Bassetts> hyphenated: the gdm splash normal gets up to the third icon "nautilus" then goes now i get about 2-3 even 4 more icons, after the login screen takes around 30 seconds to come up
[12:53] <SeanTater> concept10: tried asking #ubuntu-xgl ?
[12:54] <kimo> Is anyone familiar with how automounting of USB devices works?
[12:54] <Fee^> Anyone been able to get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[12:54] <SeanTater> alth: ait or nvidia video card?
[12:55] <wolfeySI> what do i need to do to NFS mount from one ubuntu computer to other
[12:55] <Bassetts> hyphenated: should i try removing gnomebaker and restart see how it goes?
[12:55] <alth> SeanTater: ATI X600 XT.
[12:55] <gizmo_the_great1> I have a Sony Ericsson K750i Mobile phone with a 64Mb memory stick in it. When I used Breezy I just plugged it into the USB port and it was automatically mounted and I could access my pictures. Since upgrading to Dapper Drake, this has stopped. I plug it in, it makes a little sound and starts charging (so I know connection is OK) but Ubuntu does not see it. Any ideas?
[12:55] <SeanTater> ubotu tell wolfeySI about nfs
[12:56] <hyphenated> Bassetts: worth a try. I don't use gnome or gnomebaker so I can't help that much. The message when you boot though, has nothing to do with your problem. which is useful to know
[12:56] <SeanTater> ubotu tell alth about ati
[12:56] <Bassetts> hyphenated: ok ill try that
[12:56] <alth> They're installed, Seantater.
[12:56] <SeanTater> alth: hum
[12:56] <alth> It's been fine for a week and a half.
[12:57] <SeanTater> alth: so nothing changed -- did you restart?
[12:57] <alth> SeanTater - nope.
[12:58] <kimo> ubotu help
[12:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:58] <alth> SeanTater - I installed the Guifications plugin for GAIM, and I just noticed that the blanks seemed to be occuring in sync with popups, so I disabled it, but it just blanked then. Very annoying.
[12:58] <SeanTater> alth: did you do the aitconfig thing that checks to see if the drivre is being used by the kernel?
[12:58] <alth> SeanTater - The flglx (or whatever it is) thing?
[12:59] <Awesome-o2000> well this is lovely. I got wireless working but theres no sound. even lspci doesnt detect my sound card.
[12:59] <SeanTater> alth: i'll check
[12:59] <GlemSom> I'm following this guide to install Ubuntu Dapper ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ). But when I'm in the chrooted environment, and trying to install dmraid, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16362
[01:00] <SeanTater> alth: fglrxinfo
[01:00] <alth> Yeah, done that, yes it is being used.
[01:02] <geraldtfm> Hey, i am completely new to ubuntu, would anyone be willing to walk me thorugh the process of installing a tar.gz file?
[01:02] <SeanTater> alth: could be the monitor or video card dying -- other than that, I;m not sure -- sorry
[01:02] <SeanTater> geraldtfm: as soon as you explain why you need it
[01:02] <Bassetts> hyphenated: no difference :(
[01:03] <chris_> hey guys i have ipod video what do i use to get my ipod working?
[01:03] <SeanTater> geraldtfm: almost everything you'd ever need is in apt (just enable universe)
[01:03] <geraldtfm> SeanTater: because i cant seem to figure ir out on my own
[01:03] <ompaul> !ipod
[01:03] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[01:03] <alth> SeanTater: Relatively new CRT, and a relatively new ATI card?
[01:03] <geraldtfm> ah
[01:03] <ompaul> chris_, read that ^^ by ubotu
[01:03] <geraldtfm> seantater: I shall do taht
[01:03] <SeanTater> alth: sorry -- not sure what to do from thyere
[01:04] <chris_> ompaul is that for ipod video?
[01:04] <alth> 's ok.
[01:04] <Bassetts> i have ubuntu on sda5 and my home on sda7
[01:04] <SeanTater> geraldtfm: I think I might have some info for you, hold a sec
[01:04] <Bassetts> if i reinstall ubuntu what will i lose?
[01:04] <ompaul> chris_, it is all I know about ipod - if it does not handle video let me know and I will try to find something else
[01:04] <k31th> yo, my video playback seems to be crap laggy if it goes full screen it hardly plays frame dropps laggs out badly
[01:05] <k31th> this is a 3ghz pc with a gig of ram anf ati 9800
[01:05] <SeanTater> geraldtfm: ubotu should have given you some info, is it helpful?
[01:05] <wolfeySI> k31th: did you compile yourself?
[01:05] <k31th> playback used to be ok with other versions of ubuntu
[01:05] <ompaul> chris_, we operate like this - store knowledge that is looked for regularly - if missing parts go and add to knowledgebase (more or less)
[01:05] <k31th> wolfeySI: no i used apt for all my packages
[01:05] <geraldtfm> Seantater: yes
[01:06] <geraldtfm> thanks
[01:06] <SeanTater> geraldtfm: yw
[01:06] <wolfeySI> well multimedia is crappy if it is not compiled for MMX & SSE
[01:06] <ompaul> k31th, if I said to you DMA and mplayer
[01:06] <wolfeySI> DMA plays no role in movie playback
[01:06] <wolfeySI> use MMX and SSE assembler routines does
[01:06] <ompaul> wolfeySI, disk access can and does help
[01:06] <k31th> mplayer has the same problema nd of corse dma is on its not disk speed this files are not that high of a bit rate either
[01:06] <wolfeySI> sure.
[01:07] <wolfeySI> ompaul: but mostly divx decoding is slow without MMX/SSE stuff
[01:07] <Bassetts> i have ubuntu on sda5 and my home on sda7 if i reinstall ubuntu on sda5 what do i loose?? programs or settings too??
[01:07] <wolfeySI> Bassetts: settings you can keep, if you mount /home the same way
[01:07] <ompaul> k31th, also match the player to your cpu and match your kernel to your cpu
[01:08] <Bassetts> wolfeySI: so ill just have to reinstall my programs and tell them where the settings are sort of thing?
[01:08] <SeanTater> Bassetts: if you reinstall ubuntu, you loose everything on that partition, including your programs, but most settings will stay
[01:08] <wolfeySI> Bassetts: user settings are in /home, you will keep that
[01:08] <k31th> yeah fair comment but i mean thats not goig to make a huge amount of difference
[01:08] <wolfeySI> you wont keep "server" settings in /etc and /var
[01:09] <wolfeySI> you must copy that yourself
[01:09] <wolfeySI> :)
[01:09] <ompaul> k31th, try it, it does make a moderate difference - I have three machines where that was enough to make it all happy
[01:09] <k31th> this must be some thing to do with a video driver or some thing
[01:09] <wolfeySI> ompaul: you can just installed precompiled mplayer for p4 ?
[01:09] <k31th> it wont go full screen eother
[01:10] <k31th> it goes black and plays the video in a smaller box
[01:10] <ompaul> k31th, are you using breezy
[01:10] <k31th> dapper
[01:10] <VxJasonxV> is there some trick to getting sound to work in flash (firefox) ?
[01:10] <ompaul> wolfeySI, we don't build we have builds for most things
[01:10] <Bassetts> wolfeySI: so if i reinstall ubuntu then install the programs i have now it should work as before?
[01:10] <ompaul> !restricted
[01:10] <VxJasonxV> I've installed alsa-oss at the suggestion of some others
[01:10] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:10] <wolfeySI> Bassetts: yeah
[01:10] <ompaul> VxJasonxV, read that last one by ubotu
[01:11] <Bassetts> think i will do that
[01:11] <wolfeySI> hell i even kept /home settings when i switched from fedora to gentoo
[01:11] <Mudra> Hello all, just installed and worked out how to get here.
[01:11] <Bassetts> my dvd drive is sooo weird with ubuntu or vice versa
[01:11] <Bassetts> it mounts then 3 seconds later unmounts and sometimes doesnt see cds
[01:11] <wolfeySI> Mudra: installation successful, we see
[01:11] <wolfeySI> :))
[01:11] <k31th> i might move back to gentoo
[01:12] <Bassetts> i messes up writing, i have sooo many coasters
[01:12] <SeanTater> Mudra: good!
[01:12] <Mudra> Thank you. I feel quite proud of myself.
[01:12] <rpedro> is there a list of UPS devices supported in ubuntu ?
[01:12] <dooglus> can someone tell me whether it's possible to get the sound and video to be in sync when watching flash movies in firefox?
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !hardware > rpedro
[01:12] <wolfeySI> dont misunderstand me, ubuntu is lovely, but as i know enough, i prefere source.
[01:12] <ompaul> k31th, okay, the restricted page from top to bottom does a lot of work that is useful
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !flash > dooglus
[01:12] <dooglus> it's OK if I use mplayer, but firefox always has a delay on it
[01:12] <rpedro> Hobbsee: thx ;)
[01:13] <ompaul> wolfeySI, that is a discussion point, we do discussions in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <wolfeySI> aye.
[01:13] <wolfeySI> well i wont bother u too much
[01:13] <ompaul> :-)
[01:13] <ompaul> hehe
[01:13] <dooglus> Hobbsee: do you know whether any of those links have the answer to my question?  Or did you just see the word 'flash'?
[01:13] <Mudra> 8-) Well I have to go out now, but I hope to be back later.
[01:14] <Bassetts> i dont get how cd and dvd writing is SO much worse in dapper than breezy
[01:14] <Hobbsee> dooglus: i'm fairly sure i saw a link to flash on the restricted page - about how to fix the sound for it.  let me check.
[01:14] <ompaul> !codecs
[01:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:14] <dooglus> Hobbsee: I have flash installed.  but the sound is delayed by about a second.
[01:14] <VxJasonxV> gnash isn't in any apt repos?
[01:14] <k31th> you guys dont get what im saying ITS NOT a problem with playing back with codecs its just laggy as hell
[01:14] <Hobbsee> dooglus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b  - see the section on "flash troubleshooting"
[01:14] <VxJasonxV> not even multiverse?
[01:14] <k31th> i dont have these problems in other distros tbh.
[01:15] <Hobbsee> !search gnash
[01:15] <ubotu> Found nothing
[01:15] <AwaySim> !fuse
[01:15] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:15] <Hobbsee> VxJasonxV: seems not
[01:15] <VxJasonxV> :/
[01:15] <GreySim> !search fuse
[01:15] <ubotu> Found: fuse, adept crash fix
[01:16] <SeanTater> GreySim: there is also sshfs, which uses fuse
[01:16] <ishimori> is anybody here
[01:16] <dooglus> Hobbsee: thanks, I'll try it.
[01:16] <SeanTater> GreySim: info fuse may bring up something
[01:16] <SeanTater> ishimori: i;m here
[01:16] <SeanTater> ishimori:along with 764 other people
[01:16] <ompaul> k31th, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure the right version of mplayer and see where you are goint
[01:17] <ompaul> !info fuse
[01:17] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in dapper
[01:17] <ompaul> !fuse
[01:17] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:17] <ompaul> GreySim, ^^ read that ubotu comment
[01:18] <SeanTater> ompaul: he just did --
[01:18] <ompaul> SeanTater, I am behind in the workflow then ;-)
[01:19] <k31th> ompaul: I have the right version
[01:19] <ompaul> k31th, did you dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:19] <GreySim> Oh, I read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/encryption_with_encfs_and_pam-encfs earlier, and tried following it, but I get an error and I don't know why.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16360
[01:20] <Yonda> Is there a way to play two sources of sound at once - eg: Watch a video clip in a web browser, and play music at the same time?
[01:20] <dooglus> Hobbsee: do you think adding an extra layer of sound wrapper could possibly help with the sound delay I'm getting?
[01:20] <Hobbsee> dooglus: i'm not really sure, it could
[01:20] <ompaul> GreySim, did you --> fuse kernel module not installed (modprobe fuse) <<-- and stick it into /etc/modules?
[01:21] <GreySim> Yep.
[01:21] <Bassetts> hmm, i stopped vmware and now my pc isnt having problems, but it was working fine before i stopped then started it the other day :(
[01:21] <ompaul> GreySim, well I know some people are working on fuse from the devel lists - but where they are at exactly I have no idea
[01:22] <GreySim> Thanks.
[01:23] <SeanTater> Yonda: yes, but you should not need to ask, there's no setup to do so
[01:23] <ompaul> GreySim, you catch the conversation in that - been a few comments in the last couple of days https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
[01:23] <k31th> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/35540
[01:23] <k31th> im getting that as well
[01:23] <Yonda> SeanTater, This doesn't appear to work for me, I can only play one source of sound at once...
[01:23] <Bassetts> anyone?
[01:23] <SeanTater> Yonda: just make sure everything uses alsa, or esd or arts, but not oss or direct device
[01:23] <pepone> hola
[01:24] <kimo> !usb
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[01:24] <ompaul> k31th, what is the output of uname -a >
[01:24] <SeanTater> Yonda: it's quite possible
[01:25] <SeanTater> Yonda: I checked, I turned on two music players at once, it works, it just clashes
[01:25] <Yonda> SeanTater, So it should work like that as default?
[01:25] <noiesmo> kimo, lsusb <--list usb devices attached also lsmod |grep usb < -- is usefull
[01:25] <SeanTater> yes -- (I;m using kde and Arts though)
[01:26] <shenki> hello. I was wondering, is there a simple way to show all installed packages from a particular repository?
[01:26] <CraHan> hey everyone
[01:26] <SeanTater> shenki: not that I know of
[01:26] <marius_>  /server irc.opsouten.nl
[01:26] <SeanTater> shenki: why do you need to know?
[01:26] <marius_>  /server irc.opsouten.nl
[01:26] <CraHan> does anyone happen to know how i can disable a plugin in evolution?
[01:26] <SeanTater> shenki: that'd give you zillions of lines of output
[01:26] <CraHan> cause disabling the plugin in the dialog and restarting evolution doesn't help
[01:27] <ompaul> !es
[01:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:27] <ompaul> pepone,       ^^
[01:27] <shenki> SeanTater: not necessarly. im doing some profiling on some custom built packages, and don't have debuging symbols, so need to compile them locally
[01:28] <shenki> SeanTater: and because I dont know exactly what custom packages I have installed, I was wondering if there was a way to list them - there'd only be 5-10 from the particular repositry
[01:28] <SeanTater> shenki: sorry -- dont; know how one might do that, but your best chance is reading man apt-cache
[01:28] <shenki> but yeah, thanks anyway :)
[01:29] <No|K> hi all
[01:29] <SeanTater> No|K: hello
[01:30] <No|K> :)
[01:30] <No|K> ubuntu rulez
[01:30] <SeanTater> No|K: tried other distros?
[01:30] <No|K> I had a question but I think it's just already asked
[01:30] <No|K> yeah
[01:30] <No|K> but only a few
[01:30] <SeanTater> No|K: what's the question?
[01:31] <No|K> mandriva, fedora & woody/sarge
[01:31] <No|K> was about the packages that comes with ubuntu dvd? i'm still a newbie
[01:31] <ompaul> No|K, loads, there are 2.4Gigs of packages on it
[01:32] <SeanTater> No|K: I've used Linspire -- and tried suse, fedora, xandros, and etch.
[01:32] <No|K> ompaul: 3.2 GB i think
[01:32] <No|K> SeanTater: And what's your opinion about ubuntu?
[01:32] <SeanTater> No|K: best so far
[01:33] <No|K> :D
[01:33] <No|K> SeanTater: and the everlasting question: KDE or GNOME?
[01:33] <SeanTater> No|K: kubuntu here
[01:33] <snoops> try both
[01:33] <ompaul> No|K, the full dvd is 3.1/3.2 but the repos on it are 2.5 and that is conversation can you and SeanTater (who happens to be there already) converse in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is support and that last one was flame worthy ;-)
[01:34] <SeanTater> No|K: but nothing against gnome
[01:34] <ompaul> mumbles-out, ever think about just using /away
[01:36] <Bassetts> hmm, i stopped vmware and now my pc isnt having problems, but it was working fine before i stopped then started it the other day :(
[01:38] <alth> Is there a way to see my last, say, 20 apt-gets?
[01:38] <delcoyote> ubuntu live cd and ati radeon xpress 200 have any issues, does it work the graphical mode?
[01:38] <jbcnle> history
[01:39] <jbcnle> history | grep apt-get
[01:39] <theine> alth: that won't show you any dependencies that were pulled in as well though
[01:39] <jbcnle> anyone have any experience with tidy
[01:40] <Chetic> When I try to boot from the 6.06 CD I just burnt I get "No devices found" from X11... What the heck do I do about that?
[01:40] <jbcnle> I'm trying to clean up a bunch of crappy doms
[01:40] <No|K> SeanTater, ompaul: my pleasure, c u l8r
[01:40] <SeanTater> delcoyote: afaik, I have a 200m ati card, works fine, looks nice, but games are slideshows,
[01:41] <tau> Does anyone know how to burn files *directly* to a blank DVD (without making a temporary ISO on the hard drive first)???
[01:41] <delcoyote> SeanTater: trying to load live cd from knoppix , also from ubuntu 5.10 i guess yours is 6.06?
[01:41] <SeanTater> delcoyote: 5.10 did not work with 200m, only 6.06
[01:42] <SeanTater> delcoyote: at least in my experience
[01:42] <snoops> how can I force ubuntu to reload fstab without quitting x/rebooting?
[01:42] <delcoyote> thanks a million SeanTater going to download iso now
[01:43] <MisterN> hi
[01:43] <theine> snoops: sudo mount -a
[01:43] <snoops> thanks
[01:43] <SeanTater> delcoyote: no guarantees, but It did work for me
[01:43] <Chetic> How do I start X without errors? :\
[01:43] <theine> snoops: though that won't remount any already mounted devices I think
[01:43] <SeanTater> Chetic: what errors are you avoiding/
[01:43] <delcoyote> ill try SeanTater ,trying to get image from hardrive in a laptop with win that doesnt boot
[01:43] <snoops> hey I just want to add a new networked one theine
[01:44] <Chetic> SeanTater, "No devices found"
[01:44] <theine> snoops: than it should be fine
[01:44] <SeanTater> delcoyote: linux comes to windows' rescue -- :D
[01:45] <SeanTater> Chetic: try typing this into a terminal and the try x again: export DISPLAY=':0'
[01:45] <alth> What's the easiest way to remove something installed via the .deb depacker?
[01:45] <tau> Does anyone know how to burn files *directly* to a blank DVD (without making a temporary ISO on the hard drive first)???
[01:45] <SeanTater> alth: through dpkg or apt
[01:45] <theine> alth: sudo apt-get remove <package_name.
[01:45] <SeanTater> alth: hold on -- just unpacked or, installed?
[01:45] <delcoyote> lol SeanTater i hope so, want to learn how to do images of the drive, just fixing some friends laptop
[01:46] <Chetic> SeanTater, I got the same thing
[01:46] <delcoyote> thanks SeanTater btw
[01:46] <SeanTater> delcoyote: yw
[01:46] <alth> Installed.
[01:46] <Stork> is there a program i can use to sha1-hash a text string?
[01:46] <SeanTater> Chetic: sorry -- don;t know much else in that arena
[01:47] <Chetic> darn..
[01:47] <Chetic> I feel like I get this every damn time I want to use linux
[01:47] <theine> alth: what did you install?
[01:47] <alth> Alltray. I'm having some problems with my monitor/graphics card, getting rid of anything I changed ^^
[01:47] <flo> i need some help...when i put in a cd in the cd drive i have the cd icon apear then desapear in about 2 sec. i can't view anithing that's on any cd , what's hapening?
[01:48] <tau> eh, I'm talking to myself :(
[01:48] <Fee^> Anyone been able to get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[01:48] <richard_> hi
[01:49] <hikenboot> good morning everyone ...can someone tell me what the ubuntu equivalent to xconfigurator is?
[01:49] <SeanTater> Stork: python has support for ir
[01:49] <theine> hikenboot: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I guess?
[01:49] <SeanTater> Stork: but there;s no program, just a library in python
[01:49] <richard_> I have some video i would like to convert to play on my dvd player rather than a data disk - what is the best OS program to use?
[01:49] <SeanTater> Stork: also a lib in perl
[01:50] <SeanTater> Stork: tried k3b?
[01:50] <hikenboot> thanks but I want to detect the currently used setting rather than reconfigure...the XF86Config-4 has a lot of different settings and I need to know which one is being used
[01:50] <SeanTater> Stork: sorry, not you
[01:51] <richard_> k3b
[01:51] <richard_> um does that come with dapper
[01:51] <SeanTater> richard_: only in kubuntu, not ubuntu
[01:51] <SeanTater> richard_: but you can install it from apt
[01:51] <richard_> k
[01:51] <theine> hikenboot: hmmm, not exactly sure what you mean, but maybe have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[01:52] <iwkse> are you here affix?
[01:53] <avis`> hikenboot, i did the dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it detected alot of things and the things i did not know i could figure out with what little text it gave me.  just be sure to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <theine> hikenboot: by the way, you mean xorg.conf instead of XF86Config-4, right?
[01:54] <theine> avis`: dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg actually does a backup automatically I believe
[01:55] <delmar> Hi everyone.  Im running breezy 5.10 here.  Is it quite simple to upgrade to Dapper or should I be doing a fresh install from scratch?  I would prefer not to...any comments/experiences?
[01:55] <hikenboot> yes sorry i am running like 10 systems its hard to remember which has which
[01:56] <theine> hikenboot: so what settings are you after specifically?
[01:56] <fishsticks> delmar, the utility to upgrade is very smooth
[01:56] <richard_> I updated with no problems delmar
[01:57] <hikenboot> i am actually using the ubuntu live cd to detect video settings because my thinstation pxe install fails to get my video settings right I just get a black screen with mouse cursor (the mouse moves)
[01:57] <delmar> ok.. thanks guys.
[01:57] <richard_> lol ..... i switched from windows XP to breezy 5.10 then dapper in the same day - having never used linux
[01:57] <delmar> So i'm going to download the CD and upgrade then I guess... I take it I can do that ?
[01:57] <fishsticks> you don't need to download the CD
[01:57] <delmar> I need to have an install CD available anyway, to install other systems
[01:58] <richard_> there is a dvd delmar
[01:58] <Hobbsee> !tell delmar about upgrade
[01:58] <delmar> DVD sounds fine too :P
[01:58] <richard_> just update from the menu delmar
[01:58] <theine> hikenboot: so it should be possible to figure out the right settings from /etc/X11/xorg.conf that was created by the live-CD, no?
[01:59] <delmar> thanks Hobbsee.
[01:59] <delmar> ok. cheers guys. off to check it all out.
[01:59] <Stormx2> Hey everyone! Having problems installing ubuntu on my friend's laptop; the installer can't resize a 40gb logical NTFS partition. neither can knoppix! Suggestions?
[01:59] <hikenboot> thats what i am checking now
[01:59] <hikenboot> i think i got it now
[01:59] <BazziR> Stormx2: gparted livecd
[01:59] <theine> hikenboot: you can safely ignore all those wacom devices in there
[01:59] <fishsticks> stormx2, have you defragged it first?
[02:00] <Stormx2> No >.<
[02:00] <hikenboot> ok i AM just wondering if I should mess with mode lines if this doesnt work
[02:00] <Mend> good afternoon everyone!
[02:00] <vanberge> speakign of defrag, i wanted to ask if theres a way to defrag linux partitions?  or if we even have to worry about that?  (sort of a noob, sorry)
[02:00] <richard_> I didnt defrag my NTFS drive - and it works fine
[02:00] <fishsticks> stormx2, i think that it is considered good protocol to do that... and make sure its not 39GB full =P
[02:01] <cr6sk8> try partition magic if you still have a working windows to burn it with
[02:01] <fishsticks> i would try gparted on the livecd also, as BazzIR suggested
[02:01] <theine> hikenboot: are there modelines in xorg.conf created by the live-CD?
[02:01] <Mend> can anyone tell me how to setup dial up connection with the provider with callback function?
[02:01] <void^> vanberge: no need
[02:01] <vanberge> void^: k... thnx
[02:01] <hikenboot> no but I have the knoppix cd too and I think it uses them if im not mistaken
[02:01] <Stormx2> fishsticks: It isn't >.<
[02:01] <richard_> filled NTFS drive slave drive with all my important files and wiped my windows installation drive
[02:02] <void^> vanberge: however, as a rule of thumb you shouldn't use a filesystem at above 85% of its capacity to avoid fragmentation
[02:02] <theine> hikenboot: i would try without modelines and sync ranges and let X try to detect the right settings
[02:02] <cr6sk8> you should have kept windows until you got ubuntu stable rofl
[02:02] <Mend> "callback" means: first i call to the provider, then it calls me and connects me to internet. it is for cut the phone expenses
[02:02] <richard_> NTFS is read only though with linux
[02:02] <Bassetts> vmware wont stop virtual ethernet and it recons it needs reconfiguring, any ideas?
[02:03] <richard_> thats why i filled the drive
[02:03] <Stormx2> can it be resized tho?
[02:03] <Mend> can anyone tell me how to setup dial up connection with the provider with callback function?
[02:03] <Mend> "callback" means: first i call to the provider, then it calls me and connects me to internet. it is for cut the phone expenses
[02:03] <Mend> please, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[02:03] <cr6sk8> try the forums
[02:03] <richard_> where u located Mend?
[02:03] <Mend> in ukraine
[02:04] <vanberge> lol
[02:04] <cr6sk8> hmm my friend is in Ukraine
[02:04] <cr6sk8> always brings me back pirated games :)
[02:04] <Mend> nice to here :)
[02:04] <cr6sk8> heh
[02:05] <Mend> cr6sk8, maybe, but i don't play games except solitaire :)
[02:05] <Mend> nice to hear*
[02:05] <cr6sk8> Dell is made to only accept windows...I hate Dell...
[02:05] <richard_> wow - i didnt know that cr6sk8
[02:05] <cr6sk8> yeah with DELL the boot loader crashes
[02:06] <iwkse> hi jungle
[02:06] <iwkse> ;)
[02:06] <Mend> can anyone tell me how to setup dial up connection with the provider with callback function?
[02:06] <richard_> call your isp and ask them
[02:06] <richard_> google it
[02:06] <cr6sk8> Mend try the fu#king forums
[02:06] <cr6sk8> if you ain't getting help here you might as well
[02:06] <Jungle> hello can anyone tell me how to stop and restart demons in ubuntu?
[02:06] <richard_> nobody seems to know here
[02:07] <cr6sk8> anybody got photoshop CS2 working on ubuntu?
[02:07] <steve> use gimp
[02:07] <thinkl> Jungle; Not sure what exactly you want to do. Usually /etc/init.d/foo stop
[02:07] <cr6sk8> no...photoshop took me ages to learn
[02:07] <thinkl> or /etc/init.d/foo restart
[02:07] <Jungle> photoshop 7 works ok
[02:08] <cr6sk8> I want CS2 :P
[02:08] <steve> gimp and photoshop have similar commands
[02:08] <cr6sk8> I know but I need full content like brushes and whatnot
[02:08] <steve> so you want ps can't help you there
[02:08] <iwkse> thinkl: i think he wants to restart or start a daemon, eg. alsa
[02:08] <cr6sk8> damn
[02:08] <sebastian> hey guys
[02:08] <theine> cr6sk8: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2631
[02:08] <cr6sk8> howdy doodles
[02:08] <cr6sk8> thanks?
[02:08] <richard_> is the windows version of gimp limited - or same as linux one
[02:08] <steve> CAN A WEBCAM BE HOOKED UP IN GAIM??????
[02:08] <sebastian> how to disable ntp clock synchronisation on ubuntu startup???
[02:09] <Bassetts> with vmware, to get sound in the guest os, do i have to install the drivers for the sound card?
[02:09] <steve> ANYONE DONE IT? WBCAM IN UBUNTU
[02:09] <iwkse> thinkl: i'm using gentoo and i can do it /etc/init.d/[daemon]  [stop] [start] [restart] 
[02:09] <cr6sk8> hmm thanks theine
[02:09] <Jungle> yes actually alsa
[02:09] <delcoyote> not sure steve i think it can be hooked in amsn
[02:09] <Jungle> I have found how to do that ;)
[02:09] <steve> how??? please
[02:09] <Jungle> demonname stop and demonname start
[02:09] <Jungle> ;)
[02:09] <iwkse> Jungle: ok:)
[02:09] <steve> need drivers?
[02:09] <cr6sk8> rofl
[02:10] <Jungle> iwkse mi fai morire
[02:10] <delcoyote> dont know not using amsn but have seen friends of mine using it
[02:10] <iwkse> ah
[02:10] <cr6sk8> I exploited a phpbb forum, but the root password was 'password' anyway :P
[02:10] <paniq> hey
[02:10] <iwkse> Jungle: *_*
[02:10] <paniq> how do i turn off utc?
[02:10] <delcoyote> you should check in google steve
[02:10] <steve> of course just wanted the quick answer
[02:11] <ikabot> Hi. Me again.
[02:11] <cr6sk8> howdy doodles
[02:11] <ikabot> If I want to watch DVDs on my machine, what player should I use?
[02:11] <cr6sk8> erm
[02:11] <delcoyote> check amsn faqs steve?
[02:11] <cr6sk8> use acid rip yo rip them easiest
[02:11] <Jungle> in your opinion is better alsa or oss?
[02:12] <steve> amsn? ill check gaim first hoping
[02:13] <cr6sk8> I can't play any of the linux games they lagg eXtremely >_<
[02:13] <steve> ok i googled gaim does NOT support webcams
[02:14] <hasmademethirsty> jeese, I wish there was a place to get an answer to this question, but it might be personal choice, it's about ubuntu sysadmin.
[02:15] <hasmademethirsty> I have found you can set up a root account... like any other distro... would you guys recommend ever doing that?
[02:15] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, no
[02:16] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[02:16] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:16] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, ^^ read that note by ubotu
[02:16] <hasmademethirsty> Ok, so the highest account you would set up ompaul... even with say a 20 computer net work would be admin w/ root piv.?
[02:17] <hasmademethirsty> ok, omp... I think I've read it and my question is a bit more specific.
[02:17] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul^
[02:17] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, in a 20 user situation I would have an admin account on all them - not called root or admin
[02:17] <hasmademethirsty> right... ompaul, name it whatever you want.
[02:17] <hasmademethirsty> right?
[02:18] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, and use ssh keys to log into the boxes from the "admin" box as myselg
[02:18] <ompaul> C-O-L-T-AWAY, turn that away off
[02:19] <cr6sk8> lol@C:\DOS\RUN
[02:20] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul, cool so I'm just practicing at home and basically I just have a business account and a personal account... you think I should integrate the personal with the root... leaving that how it default set up, then make the business account a 'desktop acct' 'below' the personal / root acct?
[02:20] <cr6sk8> sure why not
[02:20] <cr6sk8> I have only a root account
[02:20] <xwind_> can i mount an ubuntu iso, publish it in /var/www and use it as a deb http:/// repository? i tried but it can't find the package list
[02:20] <cr6sk8> >_<
[02:21] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul, using my noggin that's the best set up I can come up with... do you agree?
[02:21] <cr6sk8> How many of you are 40 and living with your parents lol
[02:21] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, your use of language is confusing the issue, have no root, have permissions for the "administator-name-goes-here" to log into each machine and that person can "upgrade to the other account"
[02:21] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:21] <rich909> hi all,
[02:22] <Zer0_Fil3> hi all
[02:22] <cr6sk8> howdy doodles
[02:22] <Zer0_Fil3> i'm italian
[02:22] <Zer0_Fil3> you?
[02:22] <cr6sk8> Irish here
[02:22] <cwillu> what's the recommended way to install a python module that doesn't have a deb/repository?
[02:22] <rich909> Have major problems with gnome daemon settings, can any 1 help ?
[02:22] <j-j> hey all just installed breezy im a first time user of linux having huge issues #1 is im unable to change my resolution from 640x480
[02:23] <theine> cwillu: i'd probably install it in my home directory
[02:23] <ompaul> Zer0_Fil3, conversations in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is strictly support, thanks
[02:23] <jbcnle> cwillu - look in the install.txt inside the package
[02:23] <ompaul> !resolution
[02:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:23] <ompaul> j-j, read the previous comment by ubotu
[02:24] <cwillu> jbcnle: the install.txt from the package?  I should rephrase, it's a loose collection of py files :)
[02:24] <bimberi> cwillu: /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages
[02:24] <vanberge> anybody in here familiar with Kino at all?  im trying to figure out how to even load a video to start editing, i keep getting an error.
[02:24] <gharz> guys, i've just downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin... how do i install this .bin file?
[02:24] <jbcnle> what's the package
[02:24] <j-j> thanks will try
[02:24] <Steven_M> is there a way to force gtk+ apps to use gtk2 instead?
[02:24] <theine> gharz: sh ./google-earth.bin
[02:24] <joey-> :)
[02:24] <theine> gharz: or whatever that bin file is called
[02:25] <vanberge> gharz: sudo sh ./google-earth.bin
[02:25] <joey-> I got Ubuntu installed, but I need hep configuring xorg.conf to suit my correct video card.
[02:25] <cwillu> jbcnle: dbf reader;  didn't really want to reimplement it, but didn't really want to include it in my source tree either
[02:25] <joey-> Can anyone help?
[02:25] <gharz> thanks guys!
[02:25] <cwillu> bimberi: thanks :)
[02:25] <vanberge> joey-: do you have nvidia
[02:25] <joey-> ATI.
[02:25] <bimberi> cwillu: np :)
[02:25] <jbcnle> cwillu what python packages are you installing
[02:25] <vanberge> joey-:
[02:25] <joey-> ATI Radeon 9200
[02:25] <skavenge> i just had wmv playback after installing the w32codecs and now i get sound with no video just a black screen on them all of the sudden what gives?
[02:25] <alth> Ok, something strange is going on with my system. All my movies/TV shows etc have the colours all wrong. All pinky.
[02:25] <vanberge> joey-: did you try EasuUbuntu?
[02:25] <joey-> ...no
[02:26] <someothernick> !ati
[02:26] <vanberge> joey-: i think that program installs drivers for ati/nvidia
[02:26] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul, yes, sorry I am new to sysadmin... I only have 1 machine, l am just practicing to think like a sysadmin I suppose... I want a secure machine... the best I can think of is 1 "administrator-namegoeshere" and "desktop-namegoeshere" for buisiness/school (perhaps desktop with even less privelages)... is that the best set up for my one machine? heh, sorry, I'm trying to get the sys set up just right.
[02:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <joey-> It's just.
[02:26] <joey-> I have two video cards.
[02:26] <joey-> One onboard and a PCI one.
[02:26] <vanberge> oh..
[02:26] <rich909> going mad here with gnome errors !!! need help
[02:26] <joey-> And my oem manufacturer diabled the feature in the bios
[02:26] <vanberge> joey-: do you use both?
[02:26] <joey-> to disable the onboard
[02:26] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, that is reasonable
[02:26] <joey-> vanberge; no only the ati
[02:26] <joey-> but it picked up the other video card
[02:27] <vanberge> joey-: hmm... i see your problem.
[02:27] <joey-> and put that in the xorg.conf
[02:27] <joey-> and i need to change it
[02:27] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul... no need to set up a root in all situations right?
[02:27] <joey-> But I'm a newb and need to figure out what I need to change.
[02:27] <vanberge> even with your monitor plugged into the pci ?
[02:27] <joey-> vanberge
[02:27] <joey-> I have the xorg.conf loaded in nano
[02:27] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, could you consider a much shorter nick name please i it plays with my client something dreadful given I have to run at a low resolution to be comfortable
[02:27] <joey-> i just need to figure out what to change
[02:27] <joey-> and yes i'm using the pci card
[02:27] <ompaul> hasmademethirsty, that is where we started out, there is no need for root
[02:27] <hasmademethirsty> actually,... yah... my normal nic is shorter.
[02:27] <rich909> ggetting folowing error when ubuntu logs in There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.
[02:27] <rich909> Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.
[02:27] <rich909> The Settings Daemon restarted too many times.
[02:27] <rich909> The last error message was:
[02:27] <rich909> Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred
[02:27] <rich909> GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.
[02:28] <ompaul> !paste
[02:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:28] <vanberge> joey-: im not a guru too much in Xorg...  i dont think i'd be much help
[02:28] <ompaul> rich909, ^^ read that about the paste bing
[02:28] <theine> joey-: could you paste your xorg.conf to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:28] <vanberge> joey-: my suggestion would be to update your bios
[02:28] <joey-> vanberge; ah ok.
[02:28] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul, I'm usually lens.
[02:28] <joey-> thanks anyway
[02:28] <joey-> any takers?
[02:28] <rich909> oops
[02:28] <joey-> Help me configure my Xorg.conf?
[02:28] <joey-> I've loaded it in nano,
[02:28] <joey-> just need help on what to do
[02:29] <vanberge> joey-: if there are bios updates for your mobo, you can probably install one that would give you teh capability to disable onboard gfx card
[02:29] <gnomefreak> joey-: why not just use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:29] <theine> joey-: yes, but it's a lot easier to help you paste that file
[02:29] <joey-> i can't get into X
[02:29] <joey-> :|
[02:29] <joey-> That's why.
[02:29] <theine> joey-: sorry, *if* you paste that file
[02:29] <theine> joey-: oh...
[02:29] <joey-> if i paste my xorg.conf?
[02:29] <gharz> theine, vanberge: for example u have installed the .bin file... how do u uninstall/completely remove the application?
[02:30] <hasmademethirsty> ompaul, OK, thanks a lot, I feel comfortable that this is the best set up... I'm a perfectionist ;-)
[02:30] <gnomefreak> joey-: that command isnt X and if you need to use a browser use w3m
[02:30] <vanberge> gharz: lol - you dont like google earth?
[02:30] <theine> gharz: delete the folder you installed it into
[02:30] <theine> joey-: yes, if you can, paste xorg.conf
[02:30] <joey-> ah ok
[02:30] <joey-> hold on
[02:31] <skavenge> i just had wmv playback after installing the w32codecs and now i get sound with no video just a black screen on them all of the sudden what gives? mpeg and everything else is good still
[02:31] <gharz> vanberge, theine : there are still some bugs.
[02:31] <gharz> vanberge, i don't like it.
[02:31] <gharz> :(
[02:31] <vanberge> skavenge: what player are you using
[02:31] <vanberge> gharz: lol... i understand completely
[02:31] <skavenge> vanberge, totem i believe
[02:32] <skavenge> yes
[02:32] <vanberge> skavenge: i have the same thing happen sporadically, even though all my codecs are correct
[02:32] <vanberge> skavenge: in the end, i siwtched to VLC
[02:32] <gharz> vanberge, theine : so i'll just delete the folder? it isn't like Windows that i need to go to Add/Remove Programs or something like that?
[02:32] <theine> skavenge: for totem you need an additional gstreamer plugin to use w32codecs I believe
[02:32] <vanberge> its an awesome media player.
[02:32] <theine> gharz: no
[02:32] <joey-> uh you guys
[02:32] <skavenge> hmm okay
[02:32] <joey-> how can i copy my xorg.conf
[02:32] <joey-> and upload it?
[02:32] <fishsticks> gharz: not in this case, no
[02:32] <vanberge> gharz: that is right.  it just ads a "google-earth" folder under /usr/bin/ or whatever
[02:32] <skavenge> it was wierd it worked fine first try then died
[02:32] <lens> ompaul ... better :-P
[02:33] <gharz> ok...
[02:33] <gharz> thanks guys
[02:33] <Fee^> Anyone been able to get fancontrol/pwmconfig to work in Dapper?
[02:33] <vanberge> skavenge: try another media player, if it works, great... if another one doesnt work, maybe soemthing got goofy with your codecs
[02:33] <theine> skavenge: try sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[02:33] <skavenge> okay
[02:34] <rich909> exit
[02:35] <snoops> having fun trying to get dvd playback going.. I have an iso file of one of my dvd's.. I mounted it and passed the location to movie player then get a message saying it can't read it
[02:35] <liran_> translations on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang are for the wiki website or for the actual ubuntu distribution?
[02:35] <lens> this is the slowest I've seen in a while, I love it.
[02:35] <skavenge> theine, bingo, must have missed that one thought i went through the whole list on ubuntuguide.org, guess not, thanks
[02:35] <theine> skavenge: welcome
[02:36] <theine> snoops: so you mounted it with -o loop or what?
[02:37] <bimberi> liran_: that URL doesn't work for me, but the ones via https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+translations are for the actual distribution
[02:38] <Winkie> sup gents, i have a dell keyboard with media controls, every key except the volume wheel generates an event, there's not even any data on /dev/input/<correspondingevent> when the volume wheel is turned, are there any different kernel drivers that need to be loaded?
[02:39] <joey-> okay
[02:39] <joey-> so i tried the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <joey-> well
[02:39] <joey-> it detected the other video card
[02:39] <joey-> the onboard
[02:39] <joey-> that's not the one i want
[02:39] <hosler> joey, easy fix would be to disable onboard vid in bios and run a reconfigure again.
[02:40] <joey-> but it asks for a bus number and i do not know what the heck that is for the other one
[02:40] <joey-> Hobbsee
[02:40] <joey-> er
[02:40] <joey-> hosler
[02:40] <joey-> I don't have that feature.
[02:40] <hosler> you checked your bios?
[02:40] <joey-> multiple times
[02:40] <hosler> that sucks
[02:40] <void^> manually remove the pci bus id from the xorg.conf, or use lspci to figure out the correct id
[02:41] <Hexidigital_> only 115 people?? net split or something?
[02:41] <snoops> yeah theine I did
[02:41] <Hexidigital_> ah.. nevermind
[02:41] <Hexidigital_> i'm lagging
[02:42] <snoops> just an example theine "mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test"
[02:43] <theine> snoops: yes, that's it, but might not be able to play DVD's like that
[02:43] <cr6sk8> I'm going AFK toodles all
[02:43] <theine> snoops: ...but you might...
[02:44] <gizmo_the_great1> I have a Sony Ericsson K750i Mobile phone with a 64Mb memory stick in it. When I used Breezy I just plugged it into the USB port and it was automatically mounted and I could access my pictures. Since upgrading to Dapper Drake, this has stopped. I plug it in, it makes a little sound and starts charging (so I know connection is OK) but Ubuntu does not see it. Any ideas?
[02:45] <joey-> okay
[02:45] <joey-> so i did
[02:45] <joey-> lspci
[02:45] <theine> gizmo_the_great1: look at the output of dmesg in the terminal
[02:45] <joey-> and it gave me the number for me card
[02:45] <joey-> 0000:01:0d.0
[02:45] <joey-> Where do I put that?
[02:45] <Winkie> gizmo_the_great1: try dbus-monitor --system to check for any events
[02:45] <skavenge> boy from looking at the forums there's no easy way to disable touchpad clicking is there?
[02:46] <gizmo_the_great1> theine: what should i look for in it?
[02:46] <theine> gizmo_the_great1: anything USB related at the bottom
[02:46] <lens> is there a built in xorg.conf file?
[02:46] <theine> gizmo_the_great1: see if there are any error messages
[02:46] <joey-> lens: it made one on it's own
[02:46] <joey-> for the wrong video card
[02:47] <lens> joey - I'm about to restart this thing... where is it?
[02:47] <joey-> where di i upload it?
[02:47] <joey-> i can't
[02:47] <lens> or what's it called.
[02:47] <joey-> or don't know how
[02:47] <joey-> how do i figure out the bus number?
[02:48] <gizmo_the_great1> theine: thanks for help, but after all that, it seems to work again! The other day it wasn't working, but it seems to be now. Bizarre!
[02:48] <lens> OHHH, sorry, I meant to say is there a built in SPARE xorg.conf backup file.
[02:49] <theine> gizmo_the_great1: glad it works
[02:50] <j-j> looks like im on the right path so thanks but how do i give myself permission to files owned by root?
[02:50] <lens> I can make one myself, I just hope this proggy doesnt shut down automatically (Linux programs don't do that much do they??)
[02:50] <joey-> Can anyone help me find the PCI bus number?
[02:50] <vanberge> joey-: lspci?
[02:50] <joey-> WOuld that be the slot the card is hooked up to?
[02:50] <vanberge> maybe?
[02:50] <joey-> lspci gave me like
[02:50] <joey-> 0000:01:0d.0
[02:50] <ompaul> joey-, would you put all of your comments on the one line, it gives others a chance to (A) read what your saying in one go (B) it also allows others to put questions in the channel and not have them screaming off the screen before they have 2 seconds to read it again
[02:50] <alth> There seems to be something wrong with my Totem. VLC plays things ok, but Totem gets the colours wrong.
[02:51] <vanberge> 01 would be slot 1
[02:51] <vanberge> no?
[02:51] <joey-> yeah
[02:52] <vanberge> anybody gnome users in this # that use amarok media player?  i want to make sure i'm not crossing bounds!  :-)
[02:52] <ompaul> j-j, gksudo gedit file-name<< that is one way what are you trying to edit?
[02:52] <joey-> So PCI:0:1:0 equals my intel card
[02:52] <jrib> vanberge: I do, works fine
[02:52] <joey-> That's what xorg.conf is getting at
[02:53] <theine> joey-: so maybe try PCI:0:d:0 ?
[02:53] <ompaul> j-j, some files that root owns have tools that you should use for editing them
[02:53] <j-j> xorg.conf it doesnt have the the "monitor" stuff
[02:53] <theine> joey-: sorry, i meant PCI:1:d:0
[02:54] <joey-> OH
[02:54] <joey-> lspci -X
[02:54] <joey-> That is a huge help.
[02:54] <theine> joey-: nice!
[02:54] <joey-> It told me exactly what I needed.
[02:54] <ompaul> j-j, gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[02:54] <theine> joey-: so what do you need?
[02:54] <[Nige] > hi all
[02:54] <vanberge> joey-: i'm looking at my xorg - seems like you're close!
[02:54] <[Nige] > !ati
[02:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:54] <joey-> I'm using dkpg-reconfigure, ompaul
[02:55] <joey-> But here it goes.
[02:55] <joey-> Gonna try it, brb.
[02:55] <ompaul> joey-, then it is fairly simple you use it - and allow defaults
[02:55] <ompaul> joey-, choose ati or vesa if on a pc
[02:55] <ompaul> joey-, you can tweek the others from within the Xserver
[02:56] <[Nige] > anyone got dual mointors with ati and big desktop working?
[02:57] <joey-> YES WE HAVE LIFTOFF
[02:57] <joey-> IT WORKED.
[02:57] <ompaul> joey-, please don't use caps lock - its shouting ;-)
[02:57] <joey-> It's the only way to explain my happiness. :P
[02:58] <theine> ompaul: come on, let him celebrate...
[02:58] <ompaul> theine, you saw the ;-)
[02:58] <joey-> thank you guys so much.
[02:58] <joey-> I'm going to go now.
[02:58] <joey-> :)
[02:58] <joey-> Seriously thanks.
[02:58] <ompaul> joey-, enjoy it
[02:59] <Fraeon> I have a suggestion for the new Ubuntu name
[02:59] <Fraeon> Potty Porcupine
[02:59] <Fraeon> :<
[02:59] <ubuntu> hola! como hago para formatear una particin ext3?
[02:59] <Fraeon> Lazy Llama
[02:59] <ubuntu> desde la consola
[02:59] <Fraeon> Zappy Zebra?
[03:00] <ompaul> Fraeon, a tad more like you should be chatting in #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[03:00] <ompaul> !es
[03:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:00] <jmspeex> Why on Earth doesn't Ubuntu get rid of gam_server once and for all???
[03:01] <Fraeon> ompaul, it's not off-topic, though
[03:01] <Fraeon> It's vital to know the next project name
[03:01] <ompaul> Fraeon, grumpy groundhog?
[03:02] <givre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames :)
[03:03] <ompaul> Fraeon, it is named at the end of the dapper +1 cycle by Mark so it is for #ubuntu-offtopic cheers
[03:03] <ompaul> Fraeon, s/dapper/ubuntu/
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ompaul: its the "unstable"
[03:03] <givre> i suggest friendly frog
[03:03] <ompaul> givre, stick it on that page
[03:03] <theine> jmspeex: i'm just curious, what's bad about gam_server?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ompaul: its a forever unstable but it hasnt had anything in a while not even sure if its gonna be released
[03:04] <[Nige] > hi all
[03:04] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it will change a lot soon, your in too early like the topic of +1 says
[03:04] <gnomefreak> yeah i know
[03:05] <Stork> is there a program i can use to sha1-hash a text string?
[03:05] <kim1> gnome-volume-manager isn't automatically starting. When I try to manually start it, it silently quits. How can I find out why it is exiting?
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> Stork: php ?
[03:05] <Stork> i don't have php installed
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> kim1: run it from a terminal
[03:06] <jrib> Stork: sha1sum
[03:07] <kim1> fyrestrtr I tried running it from a terminal and it just exits, no messages printed. Tried running with -n to stay in foreground, still no message.
[03:07] <jmspeex> theine: It *just* eats all CPU available on my machine *and* respawn when I kill it.
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> kim1: anything in logs?
[03:08] <ompaul> Stork, sha1sum hit enter - type what you want and then hit CTRL+D
[03:09] <[Nige] > is there anyway to update the ubot?
[03:09] <[Nige] > !update
[03:09] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[03:09] <rixxon> VERY annoying problem: firefox is sometimes unable to "open" files, i have to download them and run them from the disk
[03:09] <rixxon> i thought maybe firefox was out of memory or /tmp full or something
[03:09] <rixxon> which is not the case
[03:09] <kim1> fyrestrtr checking /var/log/syslog now...
[03:09] <Stork> cheers ompaul
[03:10] <Fraeon> Okay, one more and then I'm off: Randy Rabbit
[03:10] <boricua> does anyone has the link for the server guide in pdf in english  this link only shows spanish https://help.ubuntu.com/
[03:11] <ompaul> Stork, enjoy
[03:11] <Stork> i don't suppose there's any way to make my laptop not accept input from the mouse keys on the laptop itself?
[03:12] <joey-> Hey again, guys.
[03:12] <joey-> I'm on irssi, and uh... Apparently, my X was deleted.
[03:12] <ompaul> Stork, there may be it is called "synaptic" as far as I know, and perhaps not so obvious it is not "synaptic package manger" as for on and off I'll leave that to you to find out ;-)
[03:13] <Stork> wow you just totally lost me
[03:13] <joey-> As it was loading, where the cursor is the X, it wouldn't go past that stage.
[03:13] <joey-> There was no hard disk activity.
[03:14] <pvd> isnt your superkey on the keyboard usually the windows key?
[03:14] <pvd> mine isnt working
[03:14] <kim1> Nothing is added to /var/log/syslog when running gnome-volume-manager
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> pvd: not always, depends on the keyamp
[03:15] <fyrestrtr> *keymap
[03:15] <Feli1> Greetings, my fellow humans! I have a small problem regarding my sound setup.
[03:15] <pvd> fyrestrtr, know a way I could figure it out?
[03:15] <pvd> some type of command maybe?
[03:16] <littlepaw> hi all
[03:16] <vanberge> hi littlepaw
[03:16] <xwind_> net install using a local http repository fails at "Download Installer Components". The http repository  is a faithful copy of the xubuntu alternate cdrom.
[03:16] <wezzer_> hi, I have to 2 soundcards, how can I totally disable the integrated card in ubuntu?
[03:17] <xwind_> debug console says package retrieval failed.
[03:17] <vanberge> wezzer_: you should do it in your system bios
[03:17] <xwind_> is this a bug?
[03:17] <fyrestrtr> pvd: well Xorg.conf would tell you for sure.
[03:17] <pvd> how do you enable sound in ubuntu with an audigy 1 sound card?
[03:17] <wezzer_> vanberge: can't do it because I need 2 soundcards in windows
[03:17] <pvd> fyrestrtr, oh ok
[03:17] <fyrestrtr> pvd: and I think there is xmodmap
[03:17] <vanberge> wezzer_: ah.. gotcha
[03:18] <rixxon> i set up a pgp key with seahorse, and encrypted a dummy file. the dummy is still readable (should this be the case?), and i got a .asc that i can't really do anything with! i want a cute password prompt when opening an encrypted file or something, im lost! help! :D
[03:18] <kim1> What's the option to switch on debugging for gnome-volume-manger? --help lists --gtk-debug=FLAGS. What are valid options for "FLAGS"?
[03:18] <redblades> Hi, I just uploaded a file into the root folder of apache, but it seems that people are recieving a "Permission Denied" error.
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> redblades: what are the permissions on the file?
[03:19] <redblades> 777
[03:19] <vanberge> redblades: you should take that off... lol
[03:19] <pvd> fyrestrtr, xorg.conf says I have pc 104 keyboard, I selected that instead of pc 101 or whatever.
[03:19] <redblades> I know
[03:19] <rixxon> i get "stalled" in Ktorrents for torrents with 404 seeds.. never had any such problems with utorrent/windows
[03:20] <martyn> what is the name of the software that give you a menu like MAX OSX
[03:20] <redblades> I chnaged it to that because I was unable to access it from other PC's
[03:20] <fyrestrtr> redblades: as what user did you upload the file, and how did you upload it? FT?
[03:20] <redblades> No, The server is on this PC
[03:20] <redblades> So, I just moved them there, as always.
[03:21] <della> where is modprobe configured to find modules? it seems it can't find the fglrx module from linux-restricted-modules-etc-etc
[03:21] <vanberge> della
[03:21] <Jowi> wezzer_: you could try using asoundconf to set the default card
[03:21] <vanberge> della: /etc/modules i think?
[03:21] <vanberge> no thats where you load them on startup.. my bad
[03:21] <pvd> oh thats the command
[03:22] <redblades> fyrestrtr, ?
[03:22] <martyn> what is the name of the software that give you a menu like MAC OSX
[03:22] <kim1> della: usually it searches for everything under /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[03:22] <pvd> is the audigy like emu101k
[03:22] <pvd> ?
[03:22] <pvd> one zero one k
[03:22] <gemidjy> ok I want to install ubuntu but without going into init 5 (from live cd)
[03:22] <Winkie> run modprobe -l iirc
[03:23] <Winkie> irssi is awesome
[03:23] <skavenge> is there a straightforward way to disable touchpad clicking on an alps touchpad in dapper?
[03:23] <Winkie> 14:43.55 -!- Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.10 (20051211 0941)
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> irssi > *
[03:23] <dooglus> gemidjy: ubuntu doesn't use runlevel 5
[03:23] <redblades> fyrestrtr, Any ideas?
[03:24] <gemidjy> dooglus whatever, without starting X.org
[03:24] <Winkie> If this doesnt work it should because ubuntu is awesome for gayness
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> redblades: no -- other than change the ownership to the apache user and group.
[03:24] <dooglus> gemidjy: you can't.  to do that you need the alternate cd
[03:24] <gemidjy> dooglus ahh thanks
[03:24] <nnx> I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.06.  As I'm on a bandwidth budget, I'd like to be able to save what I download so I can perform this upgrade in the future if I need to do a clean install, and I'd like to be able to move one upgrade's download between my two machines.  Would it be better to just download the CD image, or is it possible to use the automated upgrade in Synaptic and somehow copy the .deb's from one machine to
[03:24] <nnx> another without problems?  Is this a bad idea?
[03:25] <redblades> fyrestrtr, how? chown ...?
[03:25] <Winkie> nnx: i think either is probably fine, let me check
[03:25] <Wibble-> nnx, just copy them - thats fine - if they are d/l'ed then it'll use them
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> yes
[03:25] <Wibble-> __nnx, /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:26] <__nnx> Alright, and then I'd do something like dpkg -i *.deb when in the cache directory?
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> __nnx: no, just run apt-get like normal.
[03:26] <Wibble-> __nnx, no - upgrade like normal.  The package manager will find the deb in the archive directory
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> it will only download those that are needed.
[03:26] <Winkie> no, you'd scp them to another machine, place them all in /var/cache/apt/archives and apt-get upgrade
[03:26] <Winkie> well
[03:26] <Winkie> dist-upgrade
[03:26] <__nnx> Are there any hardware-specific things I ought to know about, i.e. drivers and such?  One is a machine using the nvidia drivers, and the other isn't.
[03:27] <Wibble-> I want to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06, but when I try to upgrade it says that some packages need to be removed - such as Eclipse and OpenOffice - is there any way to upgrade without them being removed?
[03:27] <Winkie> is there an easy way to build an automated custom kernel? I need to apply a single patch to a single file but i don't know if i can rebuild the kernel automatically on every upgrade
[03:28] <redblades> fyrestrtr, how do I change it?
[03:28] <Wibble-> Winkie, I don't that it'll answer your question - but look at kpkg.  If you can build the stuff you want as a module, use that to make a custom kernel module package then you can upgrade the rest of the kernel normally.
[03:28] <pvd> ah there we go asoundconf list
[03:29] <pvd> then asoundconf set-default-card CARD
[03:30] <Winkie> Wibble-: i'm not sure, it's hid-debug.h :)
[03:30] <Winkie> very small patch: http://bugme.osdl.org/attachment.cgi?id=5981&action=view
[03:30] <__nnx> Thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.  I'm hoping there's no hardware issues.
[03:30] <__nnx> Does anyone know if there are any issues between VMWare and 6.06?
[03:30] <Wibble-> *grin* My bet is that you can't do that then Winkie - you'll need to build your own kernel probably manually each time you upgrade
[03:31] <Wibble-> (not that I'd know...)
[03:31] <Winkie> damnit
[03:31] <Winkie> does anyone else know if there's an automated kernel building mechanism?
[03:32] <LjL> !kernel
[03:32] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:32] <__nnx> Winkie: Wish I knew.  Most pre-built (non-Slackware) distros seem to be rather picky about rolling a custom kernel.
[03:33] <Barnog> Hello
[03:33] <Winkie> LjL: i checked that out but i'm talking something automated, it's a tiny patch which will apply correctly against pretty much every new kernel i suspect, i guess there's no makepkg clone :(
[03:34] <AlexC_> Hey
[03:34] <Barnog> how can I get a pdf icon for my pdf files in Nautilus?
[03:34] <AlexC_> Can any reccomend a good C++ book so I can start to learn C++ programmign for Linux,
[03:35] <vanberge> i joined this # using irssi
[03:35] <vanberge> seems pretty cool :-^
[03:35] <Winkie> it's ace
[03:35] <hikenboot> good morning another question....I have a ubuntu system which is booted into x windows..works great...the x configuration file contains frequency ranges and a mode line is there a way to translate this information into horizontal/verticle/color depth/etc so I can use its settings in my thinstation config..no mater what I put in for these parameters I get a black screen in thinstation...so I am hoping to steel the information from
[03:35] <hikenboot>  ubuntu
[03:35] <LjL> Winkie: i haven't compiled a kernel in a long time, and even when i did, i did things manually, sorry :(
[03:36] <Feli1> Hi. Some applications don't think I have sound :-( .  Help apreciated :-)
[03:36] <Feli1> For example, GNOME events are silent
[03:36] <Winkie> LjL: no worries, it's one of these bugs that will take ages to be committed
[03:37] <AlexC_> No one knows of a good C++ book the?
[03:37] <AlexC_> then*
[03:37] <KenSentMe> I'm running multiple ubuntu systems on my testing machine, how can i make sure that when i use ssh to connect, i don't always have to delete the key before i connect to another ubuntu system on the same ip?
[03:38] <Feli1> Can anybody help with my sound problem?
[03:38] <Wibble-> KenSentMe, Just a thought - try copying the DSA / RSA keys from one install to the others (/etc/ssh/)
[03:39] <Barnog> anybody has problems with pdf-file-icons? In Nautilus I only see a little version of the pdf file. Any ideas how to resolve this, please?
[03:39] <bina> if I want a newer library than is in the repos at the moment (libsigc++) is it safe for me to download the source and compile it?
[03:40] <KenSentMe> Wibble-: ah, ok. Can try that. I was thinking more like telling the system i connect from to not check if the key is valid from that ip adress
[03:40] <vanberge> alrightey... i think i got irssi going!  this is pretty cool!
[03:40] <KenSentMe> Barnog: works the same for me here, it's not an error or a bug
[03:41] <KenSentMe> vanberge: cool he
[03:41] <Barnog> Ken
[03:41] <Barnog> KenSentMe: thank you...but still trange
[03:41] <Wibble-> Barnog, indeed it is a feature of gnome that it displays little icons showing the first page of a PDF or text file.
[03:41] <MrStein> Hi! Lost my launchapad ID, how can I recover it ? I know my id : https://launchpad.net/people/xerces8
[03:41] <Wibble-> Helpful if you use the larger zooms for the icons.  Less helpful with small icons.
[03:42] <KenSentMe> Barnog: i don't like it too, i've been looking to change it, but haven't found a solution yet
[03:42] <vanberge> any irssi users; i got set up channel and server automation... would there be anything that anyone would recommend doing regardign look/feel or controls?
[03:42] <KenSentMe> vanberge: i changed the colors of my terminal client to black with green text
[03:42] <krazykit> vanberge: irssi.org has lots of great stuff. scripts, themes, and a nice faq
[03:42] <Wibble-> bina, Its not really advisable - if you do want to do it, make sure it is compiled with the same params as ubuntu one, and compile it into a package to install.  Don't try to do it outside of apt, thats just a big can'o'worms there
[03:42] <Barnog> And no chance to make a little red-white Adobe icon instead?
[03:43] <vanberge> KenSentMe: i have mine kind of like that, with transparency.  very cool.
[03:43] <vanberge> krazykit: thnx...  :-)
[03:43] <KenSentMe> vanberge: ah, ok
[03:43] <bina> Wibble-: oh right, good thing you told me :).  How do you find out what parameters the ubuntu one was compiled with?
[03:44] <Wibble-> Barnog, Look at system -> preferences -> file management.  Disable showing the preview for the files you want (such as "other previewable files") - that might be what you want?
[03:44] <Wibble-> bina, I don't know... I only know I tried it outside and got in to all sorts of mess - then got stuck trying to find the flags the original package was compiled with!!
[03:44] <vanberge> KenSentMe: what term. client you use?
[03:44] <jenda> Any idea how to switch on external display on my laptop? It gets switched when there's a device plugged in on startup
[03:45] <jenda> but I don't want to have to do that each time ;)
[03:45] <bina> Wibble-: hmm, i dont know whether i want to risk it now :P.  I suppose if I do it through apt then i can get rid of it n put the old one back in if all goes crazy
[03:45] <vanberge> jenda: maybe is a bios setting??
[03:45] <KenSentMe> vanberge: just the standard gnome client
[03:45] <KenSentMe> vanberge: or putty when on windows
[03:45] <skavenge> is there a straightforward way to disable touchpad clicking on an alps touchpad in dapper?
[03:45] <Wibble-> bina, and the other (perhaps more important) point is if you don't use apt properly, it will simply remove all other apps which use it (or have a broken system if you manually remove the package apt thinks is installed)
[03:45] <vanberge> KenSentMe: me too.... i've seen irssi screenshots with eterm/aterm where they do some cool stuff.  remove borders, etc.
[03:46] <jenda> vanberge: well - I want to be able to switch it on while the PC is running.
[03:46] <bina> Wibble-: oh yeah, didnt think about that.  Thanks :) if it tries to get rid of everything ill tell it no
[03:47] <bina> Wibble-: scary
[03:47] <Wibble-> bina, which is why apt needs to know its an "upgrade" ;) - The joys of using a package management system means its much harder to break out of it and still keep the system ticking along
[03:48] <bina> Wibble-: hehe, looks like im going to have to read some documentation
[03:48] <Wibble-> *shudder* ;)
[03:48] <bina> lol
[03:51] <KenSentMe> Barnog: i found the solution
[03:51] <neil> hi
[03:51] <KenSentMe> Barnog: go to terminal and type gconf-editor
[03:52] <neil> i would like a newer version of a pkg (gphoto) should i compile it or are there any unofficial repositories around?
[03:52] <KenSentMe> Barnog: then go to Apps-Nautilus-Preferences and change the show_image_thumbnails to never. Now restart your desktop by ctrl-alt-backspace and voila
[03:53] <Barnog> KenSentMe: trying
[03:53] <KenSentMe> Barnog: worked for me
[03:53] <Wibble-> KenSentMe, a lot of those settings are in the UI too - That one is in system -> preferences -> file management - safer to use the UI than use gconf-editor
[03:54] <Barnog> Wibble-: I dont have a File mnagement option
[03:55] <Wibble-> Oh! Odd.  I guess that might have something to do with Gnome versions? I'm using 2.12.1
[03:56] <Barnog> Wibble-: 2.14
[03:57] <KenSentMe> Wibble-: me neither
[03:57] <sophie^> anyone here who tried novell login in ubuntu? i need help in setting up pam and gdm for that
[03:57] <Wibble-> Curious! I would have thought it would be a new thing rather than one taken out... Perhaps its called something different.
[03:57] <Barnog> KenSentMe: works for me as well, strange that I cannot find it with google. Thank you
[03:58] <vanberge> is there a way to start gnome-terminal with tabs already open? one of the tabs executing a program (i.e. irssi) ?
[03:58] <AlexC_> Anyone know of a good C++ book so I can stat to learn to create programs for Linux?
[03:58] <tarvid_> after dapper upgrade i get E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[03:58] <KenSentMe> Barnog: under Desktop-Gnome-Thumbnailers you can disable the thumbnails as well or only for a few filetypes
[03:58] <vanberge> AlexC_: dont buy a book... do a tut on line!
[03:58] <tarvid_> any way to fix that?
[03:59] <AlexC_> vanberge: Aye, but I like having a book!
[03:59] <logan> vanberge: you may execute gnome-terminal -e irssi or any command that is executable
[03:59] <AlexC_> vanberge: i'm tempted to just copy/paste with a tut online
[03:59] <rixxon> gpg question: do i set default-key to my "pub" key id or "sub" key id?
[03:59] <skavenge> well that was lovely frostwire took a dive and froze my session
[03:59] <KenSentMe> vanberge: what do you mean tabs already open?
[03:59] <vanberge> logan: i found that via the man page - but i'd like to start up gnome-terminal with a couple tabs
[04:00] <thanos> anybody knows were can i download mp3 and dvd codecs for ubuntu?
[04:00] <Barnog> Is there an known issue with pdf plugins for Firefox/epiphany?
[04:00] <vanberge> KenSentMe: you can open tabs in one terminal window... so you can have 2, 3 term windows actually tabbed like firefox
[04:00] <andi5> hey... probably faq, but: how do i tell gnome which channel volume to adjust when i press XF86Audio{Lower,Raise} (resp. the keys i declared in the control center) ....  i thought this would be possible by choosing the channel in the volume applet, but it still adjusts PCM and not Front... thanks in advance!
[04:00] <KenSentMe> vanberge: i run my irssi in screen mode, so when i close my terminal my irc session just continues
[04:00] <KenSentMe> vanberge: didn't know that
[04:00] <morphix> i accidentally deleted files from phpmyadmin, so i uninstalled it.. then reinstalled.. but i gets errors saying "not replacing delete file, blabla" how can i FORCE aptitude to install EVERYTHING for phpmyadmin?
[04:00] <vanberge> KenSentMe: its pretty cool  :-)
[04:01] <vanberge> KenSentMe: so i thought if i could make a launcher for gnome terminal, 1 tab being irssi, 1 tab being normal term window that would be bad ass!
[04:01] <VIMmer> hi, i am on Dapper. I want to boost up the bootup of my machine, so I wanted to disable the bluetooth in the start up. How do I do that?
[04:01] <pvd> my superkey doesnt work and when I try to goto system > preferences > keyboard > layout options nothing is there and it says system does not seem to have the XKB exntension, anyway I can get it?
[04:02] <KenSentMe> vanberge: would be leet ;)
[04:02] <vanberge> VIMmer: settings > administration > services??
[04:02] <skavenge> any straightforward method of disabling touchpad clicking with an alps touchpad in dapper?
[04:02] <vanberge> VIMmer: sorry, system > administration > services.
[04:02] <Alecx> hi
[04:02] <vanberge> might help you?
[04:03] <logan> VIMer: well, i do not think it is listed under services. one really hackish way is to actually rename or move the bluez-utils script from the /etc/init.d directory ...
[04:03] <Alecx> me ?
[04:03] <vanberge> KenSentMe: there must be a way to do it... i'll find it
[04:03] <VIMmer> vanberge, the bluetooth doesnt feature in that list
[04:04] <VIMmer> k
[04:04] <Stork> is there any way to start a really minimalized version of gdm suitable for playing games (quake4) on and saving resources?
[04:04] <vanberge> VIMmer: hmm... im not sure then.  fedora has a command that lets you see all the services starting up.  "ntsysv"
[04:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: just dont use it
[04:04] <vanberge> but that is not a valid ubuntu comand
[04:04] <Stork> aLPHa_LeaK, kinda hard to play a game without a display
[04:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: yes, but you dont need gdm for that.
[04:05] <Stork> i don't?
[04:05] <Stork> what do you mean?
[04:06] <VIMmer> logan, any idea which file contains that line?
[04:06] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: use a .xinitrc and type "startx"
[04:06] <vanberge> Stork: you mean a light window manager?
[04:06] <logan> not the file.
[04:06] <vanberge> not a login manager
[04:06] <logan> VIMer: the file /etc/init.d/bluez-utils
[04:06] <logan> VIMer: it can be moved to any other directory
[04:06] <logan> VIMer: since the system cannot find the script on bootup, it will be skipped
[04:06] <vanberge> Stork: check out fluxbox.
[04:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> yup.
[04:07] <Barnog> I have the Adobe Reader 7 plugin installed but whenever I wnat to view a pdf file the browser window remains empty. If I try to do with Swiftfox - voila !! PDF-view. any explanation/solution?
[04:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> i use it as well.
[04:07] <Stork> aLPHa_LeaK, what's an .xinitrc
[04:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: it is a script that is executed when X is started (ie the GUI) and it contains a list of all the programs that you want to start when you start X
[04:08] <vanberge> KenSentMe: in gnome-terminal... hit shift+ctrl+ T
[04:09] <VIMmer> vanberge, i think the counterpart of that script in Ubuntu is sysv-rc-conf
[04:09] <VIMmer> just found it on a site
[04:09] <vanberge> VIMmer: cool, thnkx for the info... did that help you?
[04:09] <Stork> aLPHa_LeaK, where do i find xinitrc?
[04:09] <VIMmer> well, i am just installing that app
[04:10] <VIMmer> u want the link?
[04:10] <VIMmer> here it is anyway: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot
[04:11] <Mewshi> hi
[04:11] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: you have to create it with a text editor
[04:11] <Stork> aLPHa_LeaK, ah, nice one.. i can make an .xinitrc containing only 'quake4', that way x doesn't load anything else
[04:12] <MrStein> any channel, mail list or web page for ubuntu translations ?
[04:12] <Stork> in retrospect, quake4 was so damn slow on windows
[04:12] <KenSentMe> vanberge: already found that, just never thought of it
[04:12] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: exactly.
[04:12] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: but then if you wanted to use gnome, you would have o rewrite it...
[04:13] <KenSentMe> MrStein: check launchpad.net, it's the site where you can translate ubuntu
[04:13] <theine> aLPHa_LeaK: actually, I believe ~/.xinitrc is ignored if you use gdm
[04:13] <Stork> aLPHa_LeaK, if a .xinitrc isn't present in my home dir, it uses the default one
[04:13] <aLPHa_LeaK> theine: yes, i advised him to not use it ;)
[04:14] <aLPHa_LeaK> Stork: or another way would be to add a quake4.session file to your gdm thingie.
[04:14] <Stork> i don't like flux anyways
[04:14] <theine> aLPHa_LeaK: i mean, if he wants to switch to Gnome, he can just start gdm and leave ~/.xinitrc unmodified
[04:14] <aLPHa_LeaK> i dont know how to do that tho, cos i dont use gdm ;)
[04:14] <aLPHa_LeaK> theine: well, yeah.
[04:14] <KenSentMe> vanberge: i just found out that the terminal overrules the irssi option to use alt+1,2,3 to switch between channels
[04:14] <andi5> how do i tell gnome which channel volume to adjust when i press XF86Audio{Lower,Raise} (resp. the keys i declared in the control center) ....  i thought this would be possible by choosing the channel in the volume applet, but it still adjusts PCM and not Front... thanks in advance!
[04:15] <theine> Stork: ~/.xinitrc is only read if you start X with startx
[04:15] <vanberge> KenSentMe: nice!  now if i could only find how to make gnome terminal start with two tabs!
[04:15] <theine> Stork: What's the path to the quake4 binary?
[04:16] <Stork> it's in /usr/local/bin
[04:16] <infinity_> how do i upgrade my kernel? whenever i put in change "nvidia" to "nv" or "vesa" in my xorg.conf to upgrad ethe kernel it always fails to run xserver
[04:16] <vanberge> infinity_: did you install the nvidia drivers??
[04:17] <infinity_> yea im pretty sur ei did i ran automatix and also my xorg.conf runs with "nvidia" as the driver and i am also able to run compiz/xgl
[04:17] <vanberge> infinity_: why do you want to change it to nv or vesa then?
[04:17] <vanberge> that takes away the nvidia drivers
[04:18] <fijam> hello. I messed things up during the installation of xubuntu alternative and I need some help
[04:18] <theine> Stork: then do: echo exec /usr/local/bin/quake4 > ~/.xinitrc
[04:18] <fijam> the problem is that I added user, and it is not in sudoers list
[04:19] <fijam> how to fix it?
[04:19] <aLPHa_LeaK> theine: but gdm is in init
[04:19] <LamaZitten> Hello everyone. I need to copy some files localy from one hard disk to another, is there a way I can be sure the data is not corrupted in the process? some kind of error checking? its over 250 GB of files.
[04:19] <theine> aLPHa_LeaK: ?
[04:19] <theine> aLPHa_LeaK: what do you mean "in init"?
[04:19] <aLPHa_LeaK> theine: it gets started at bootup:/
[04:19] <aLPHa_LeaK> argh.
[04:20] <Stork> theine, why?
[04:20] <vanberge> KenSentMe: i got it!  if you're interested
[04:20] <theine> aLPHa_LeaK: yes, he has to stop gdm before launching startx
[04:20] <skavenge> after watching a few music videos the colors on all video file types wash out and are hard to see, i can fix with a reset but is there another way?
[04:21] <theine> Stork: that will give you the right ~/.xinitrc
[04:21] <moogman> Hi. I would like to maximise a program when I run it, is this possible, via the command line?
[04:21] <aLPHa_LeaK> i thought it shuts down ubuntu...not enough gdm experience here
[04:21] <Stork> theine, what's wrong with the current one?
[04:21] <LamaZitten> Can anyone help me please?
[04:21] <moogman> I would also like to move it to a different virtual desktop, if thats possible too
[04:21] <theine> Stork: Probably nothing, I though you haven't created it yet
[04:21] <KenSentMe> vanberge: tell me
[04:22] <vanberge> here's the command i just used...
[04:22] <KenSentMe> vanberge: the option of overruling the alt commands is not nice
[04:22] <haakonn> i'm trying to upgrade my dapper to 2.6.17 with make-kpkg. i copied ubuntu's 2.6.15 .config and only changed it by enabling SMP (this laptop is a core duo). it's in menu.lst with the same parameters as the old kernel, but now i get: "VFS: cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0) / Please append a correct "root=" boot option" and then it panics. ideas?
[04:22] <vanberge> KenSentMe: gnome-terminal --hide-menubar --tab-with-profile=trans --tab-with-profile=trans
[04:22] <benoit> I need a pro of VLC for 2 dumbs question (pm me please !!)
[04:22] <vanberge> KenSentMe: i have a profile named trans.  just sub that for whatever yours is named
[04:22] <fijam> could anyone help? after installing xubuntu and running oem-config-prepare my user cannot use sudo. how to fix it?
[04:23] <KenSentMe> vanberge: ah, cool, thanx
[04:23] <kojak> !w32codecs
[04:23] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[04:23] <theine> fijam: what's the output of id?
[04:24] <LamaZitten> Anyone please? i'm sure there is a simple program I'm missing...
[04:24] <haakonn> the only difference is that the new kernel does not have an initrd
[04:24] <vanberge> LamaZitten: you just want to use cp? from command line?
[04:24] <fijam> I cannot check now. But when I type sudo and some command I get info that fijam is not in sudoers list
[04:24] <LamaZitten> yes, but I wonder if there is a way to make sure my data is safe on the new hd, before I erase the old hd
[04:24] <vanberge> LamaZitten: if you are just copying, don't worry about corruption.  even if something really bad happene'd you'd still have the original correct?
[04:24] <infinity_> vanberge: sry i went afk, i want to change it to nv or vesa cuz in the guide to upgrade the kernel it tells me to
[04:24] <stocksy> LamaZitten: i think rsync has an option to verify files - I'll check
[04:24] <sword-> whats going one
[04:24] <sword-> on
[04:25] <sword-> has anyone installed the latested nvidia drivers?
[04:25] <sword-> on breezy
[04:25] <theine> fijam: what's your username?
[04:25] <LamaZitten> thanks stocksy :)
[04:25] <vanberge> infinity_: is there a specific reason you want to install a new kernel?
[04:25] <fijam> theine: fijam
[04:25] <kojak> anyone knw how i can get win32codes
[04:25] <robert__> When I move a window over the Gaim buddy list, the names disappear. Is this a known bug or something? I looks like all treelists have the same problem
[04:26] <theine> fijam: then try "sudo adduser fijam admin"
[04:26] <haakonn> me, i want to upgrade my kernel because of better core duo support
[04:26] <fijam> theine: from recovery mode?
[04:26] <sword-> i'm having trouble getting X to run with the latest nvidia drivers
[04:26] <sword-> I also updated my kernel to 2.6.16.16
[04:26] <KenSentMe> vanberge: the way to change my tab problem is opening gconf-editor, go to Apps-Gnome_terminal and change the keybindings to <Shift><Alt>1 etc.
[04:26] <fijam> theine: ah, I understood
[04:27] <varsendaggr> ubotu tell sword- about nvidia
[04:27] <fijam> theine: will try
[04:27] <sopido> hi.. is there already a deb of inkscape .44 for dapper out?
[04:27] <varsendaggr> sword-, what is going on
[04:28] <sword-> hey...X fails to load the GLX module , but the way i did it is was go to the nvidia site and run the shell script to instlal everything
[04:30] <stocksy> LamaZitten: I can't find anything about it in the rsync docs :(
[04:30] <LamaZitten> stocksy: Aw to bad :/ Well thanks anyway, i'l try to find an alternative
[04:31] <sword-> thanks though brb
[04:31] <KenSentMe> vanberge: ah, doesn't work that great, changed it back
[04:32] <vanberge> infinity_: KenSentMe im noticing that i dont like it as well.
[04:33] <vanberge> woops... lol
[04:33] <joachim-n> why can't I see other computers in Network?
[04:34] <DR_K13> hi internets
[04:34] <DR_K13> hi internets
[04:34] <infinity_> vanberge: i want to enable SMB and i thought while im at it why not just get the upgraded kernel cuz it prolly fixed some bugs and has improvements aswell
[04:34] <infinity_> vanberge: err ri meant SMP
[04:34] <vanberge> infinity_: all you have to do is run update manager - that will automatically install the latest kernel
[04:34] <vanberge> infinity_: unless you want to run a special compiled kernel?
[04:35] <infinity_> vanberge: yea
[04:35] <skavenge> any straightforward method of disabling touchpad clicking with an alps touchpad in dapper?
[04:35] <infinity_> vanberge: like ive compiled a kernel b4 when i installed gentoo a few months ago so im not completely lost
[04:36] <vanberge> infinity_: ok... i see. :-)  well, i won't be much help there. sorry
[04:36] <vanberge> :-)
[04:36] <Noriega> hey
[04:37] <bobc> I have a computer with Dapper Drake that the network does not come up properly on boot.  there are just repeated eth0: link down eth0: link up messages - dozens every minute. if do a sudo ifdown eth0 then sudo ifup eth0 it then works fine unti the next boot. any ideas why it isn't work at boot?
[04:37] <stocksy> LamaZitten: rsync -car /old/dir /new/dir    (the -c option compares the checksums)
[04:37] <LamaZitten> stocksy: wow thanks, thats just what I needed :D thanks a lot!
[04:37] <left_via> hi, anyone has an idea why gconf-editor wont let me change the compiz options? o_O
[04:37] <joachim-n> I used to be able to connect to my powerbook. I see nothing in the network window
[04:38] <stocksy> LamaZitten: no problem.  Oooh, make sure you put a trailing / on the paths if they are directories, too
[04:38] <haakonn> if i have simply installed ubuntu from a standard dapper livecd, am i using non-proprietary nvidia drivers?
[04:39] <LamaZitten> stocksy: Trailing? you mean /old/dir/ ?
[04:39] <sword-> im getting trouble installing an nvidia module
[04:39] <bobc> haakonn: yes, you're using the nv driver
[04:39] <stocksy> LamaZitten: yes
[04:39] <sword-> brb
[04:39] <LamaZitten> stocksy: ok thanks i'l do that ^^
[04:39] <haakonn> bobc:  and the nv driver is the free/non-proprietary one?
[04:40] <bobc> haakonn: yes, nvidia is the proprietary driver
[04:40] <haakonn> okey, thanks
[04:40] <haakonn> i know there are some non-free stuff on the cd, so i wasn't sure
[04:41] <Chetic> How do I set a password for root?
[04:41] <bobc> to add the proprietary driver you would need to install nvidia-glx
[04:41] <vanberge> for irssi users:  is there a better recommended way to switch between #'s?  or is ctrl-n / ctrl-p pretty easy once you get used to it (im trying to switch from xchat!)
[04:41] <haakonn> bobc:  don't want it :)
[04:42] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to make vlc my default player, so stupid totem won't keep popping up?
[04:43] <steri> vanberge: ctrl+arrows? alt+(1-0)and (alt+q-p)
[04:44] <joachim-n> how do I get sendmail?
[04:45] <vanberge> steri: alt numbers works good... thanks!
[04:46] <HiP_P> got the card working
[04:46] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to make vlc my default player, so stupid totem won't keep popping up?
[04:46] <Chetic> When I try to mount an NTFS partition I get this errormessage: "Error: device /dev/hdc1 is not removable"
[04:47] <Chetic> What does it even mean?
[04:47] <vanberge> is there a way to configure a launcher in gnome so that it lauches fully maximized?
[04:47] <Hit3k> it means /dev/hdc1 is not removable :)
[04:47] <Chetic> it is perfectly removable!
[04:47] <Chetic> just unplug it and remove it
[04:47] <Chetic> but that's not what it means..
[04:47] <theine> joachim-n: sudo apt-get install sendmail
[04:48] <HiP_P> just got get bloody X server to work
[04:49] <ompaul> HiP_P, take it easy, what kind of video card have you got
[04:49] <steri> vanberge: alt+ first letter row are 11-19 :) if you have that many channels
[04:49] <vanberge> lol... steri i do not.  :-)  thanks though
[04:49] <Arafangion> steri: Does that assume a qwerty keyboard?
[04:50] <Chetic> How do I mount a device that is not removable?
[04:50] <HiP_P> ompaul: it wasnt angry.... non i think one of them mother board jobbys
[04:51] <HiP_P> ill just run a probe on it
[04:51] <hurricane> hi
[04:51] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg << when you run that don't worry about anything other than choosing "vesa" and that should get you off the ground
[04:51] <ompaul> HiP_P, thats vesa for card type
[04:52] <HiP_P> ahhhh thats the one i was looking for
[04:52] <Cntryboy> HIP_P did you lose X or something?
[04:52] <vanberge> geez i am stuck! i want to click a launcher for gnome-terminal and have it start full screen.  that shouldnt be hard!
[04:53] <divineomega> Hi. I'm having a few issues with some programs not redrawing their list boxes correctly, such as GAIM and the Device manager.
[04:53] <HiP_P> na just not used to debian
[04:53] <Cntryboy> vanberge: everything is hard in linux if you don't know how lol
[04:54] <timas> Howdy folks, anyone available to answer some questions about mounting around boot time?
[04:54] <divineomega> !redraw
[04:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about redraw
[04:54] <Rendo> Anyone like Hockey?
[04:54] <Arafangion> Cntryboy: Correction: Everything is _impossible_ unless you know how. Once you know how, you have worked it out, either intellectually, accidentally, or circumstantually.
[04:54] <ompaul> !offtopic
[04:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:54] <joachim-n> could someone help me with networking>
[04:54] <skavenge> right now i'm having to run 'modprobe -r bcm43xx' then 'modprobe ndiswrapper' then ejecting the wireless nic and reinserting to get it to work on bootup, can i solve this so it will work automatically?
[04:54] <Cainus> hey all.. I have php and mysql working fine, but php won't see mysql, even after I've installed the php4-mysql package... anyone know what could be wrong?
[04:55] <HiP_P> ummm ok weird
[04:55] <Chetic> How do I mount a device that it says is not removable?
[04:55] <vanberge> Cntryboy: well, i'm pretty good at linux.  just new to ubuntu / gnome
[04:55] <HiP_P> ok pm you ompaul?
[04:55] <ompaul> HiP_P, what is weird?
[04:55] <timas> I'm having trouble with the newer kernels to mount my root partition..
[04:56] <ompaul> HiP_P,  you can but I prefer channel
[04:56] <HiP_P> okey dokey
[04:56] <timas> At boot time, that is. So my machine wont get past boot unless I stick to the -19 kernel
[04:56] <Cntryboy> Arafangion: yeah, and it's hard if you don't know how lol.. No correction to it.. even if you do figure it out and dont write it down, more than likely you will forget the command or what not.
[04:56] <HiP_P> well xserver is installed but saying its not
[04:56] <ompaul> timas, read the page wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[04:56] <NoUse> Cainus did you edit /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini and enable the mysql module?
[04:57] <Detox> hello folks !!!! haev a question about ubuntu-server 6.0.6,,,, I realize the 'purest' would snub his nose at my wanting a desktop on it, but it is easier for me to navigate,, so here is my question >>>>>>  I am installing the server portion onto my hd, then, isntead of spending 3 hours typngin all the stuff to add, I want to do a apt-get isntalll ubuntu-desktop,,, after that, I will copy / past all the stuff into command line from the
[04:57] <Detox> doc on line to set up server.... what do you folsk tink about this?
[04:57] <ompaul> HiP_P, do this >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< if you want gnome
[04:57] <noiesmo> how do i convert an existing Linux ext2 filesystem to an ext3 file system without data loss
[04:57] <Cainus> NoUse: yeah...seems like a common ubuntu problem from the forums, but I haven't found the answer yet
[04:57] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to make vlc my default player, so stupid totem won't keep popping up?
[04:57] <jenda> I have a projector and would like to project movies on it with xine. Can somebody help me do that? ATM, xine only projects on the screen and shows blank on the prjector.
[04:57] <HiP_P> i try amiwm
[04:57] <HiP_P> *iam trying amiwm
[04:57] <softwork> whu run asp pages on linux?
[04:57] <Arafangion> noiesmo: By first backing it up.
[04:57] <ompaul> Detox, that is reasonable
[04:57] <softwork> program?
[04:57] <Detox> ok good
[04:57] <Detox> thanks
[04:57] <softwork> why run asp pages in linux?
[04:57] <Arafangion> noiesmo: Then reading 'man mkfs.ext3' or similar.
[04:57] <fijam> hello again
[04:58] <NoUse> Cainus you might need to stop/start apaceh rather than restarting
[04:58] <fijam> thaine: now sudo works
[04:58] <HiP_P> ive try starting x server but its having non of it
[04:58] <Detox> it jsut takes so long typing in everything ,, and the print is so small ..
[04:58] <fijam> thaine:thanks
[04:58] <timas> ompaul: It has nothing to with my boot options I don't think
[04:58] <Detox> great thanks will let ya know how it goes
[04:58] <Arafangion> softwork: Why do people write HTML?
[04:58] <Detox> have agreat day!!
[04:58] <timas> ompaul: Because the boot options didn't change, its really just kernel that did
[04:58] <ompaul> HiP_P, the lighter modules are icewm and xfce we have the xfce-desktop which sets up lots of lightweight software
[04:58] <Arafangion> softwork: Ask a better question.
[04:58] <javi__> hi
[04:58] <joachim-n> damn. my OS X can see ubuntu, but it says password incorrect. help!
[04:58] <softwork> yes
[04:59] <javi__> why my ubuntu doesn't show any printer fabricant and driver when i try to install a new printer?
[04:59] <ompaul> timas,  have you installed the modules with that kernel?
[04:59] <noiesmo> Arafangion, hmm backup ofcourse was more think tune2fs
[04:59] <HiP_P> get icewm yeah?
[04:59] <Cainus> NoUse: thanks... I'll give that a shot
[04:59] <ompaul> HiP_P, I would actually say for speed xfce in the form of the prepackaged xubuntu-desktop after you have that you can get the other packages with ease
[05:00] <timas> ompaul: I just got the kernel through apt-get?
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, prelink
[05:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about prelink
[05:00] <joachim-n> where do I set my password?
[05:00] <Arafangion> noiesmo: Ahh, I thought that mkfs.ext3 did that, but apparently not - it did refer to tune2fs, though.
[05:00] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> Hey
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> about how much disk space should I have free before running prelink?
[05:00] <HiP_P> ah on a 64mb ram here so that why going for small mini stuff
[05:01] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: You are optimizing the wrong things, imho.
[05:01] <noiesmo> Arafangion, found it tune2fs -j /dev/hdb1 thanks to Healot
[05:01] <Cainus> NoUse: hey...any idea why there might not be apachectl on this box?
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  huh?
[05:01] <timas> cainus, which apache version do you have?
[05:01] <ompaul> HiP_P, well that might just run but 128 i think is minimum I don't think that the xserver will run .. but if it does then that would be the fast route to being productive
[05:01] <Chetic> How do I mount a device that it says is not removable?
[05:01] <Cainus> timas: 2
[05:02] <timas> cainus try apache2ctl <com>
[05:02] <timas> cainus: where <com> is the followed command ;)
[05:02] <Cainus> aww geez..yeah...forgot about that...thanks :)
[05:02] <HiP_P> okey ill give it a go
[05:02] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Unless I'm incorrect, prelinking can make for a more complicated dependency and binary package update, and only makes it a little faster.
[05:02] <Cntryboy> Doesn't anyone here know how to make a program default rather than what's already default?
[05:02] <ompaul> timas, did you get the kernel headers?
[05:02] <ompaul> timas, make it easy for me what kernel did you get
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  that wasn't the question
[05:02] <noiesmo> Cntryboy, run kcontrol then change the association under kde components
[05:03] <skavenge> right now i'm having to run 'modprobe -r bcm43xx' then 'modprobe ndiswrapper' then ejecting the wireless nic and reinserting to get it to work on bootup, can i solve this so it will work automatically?
[05:03] <Cainus> NoUse, timas: thanks... that fixed it!
[05:03] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: From memory, prelinking is usually done to achieve higher application load times, right?
[05:03] <Cntryboy> noiesmo, will that still work if im using gnome?
[05:04] <Cntryboy> bash: kcontrol: command not found
[05:04] <joachim-n> networkhelp, anyone?
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  lower
[05:04] <timas> ompaul: My problem is this: I installed my machine around the -18 kernel, I upgraded to the -19, at -20 it stopped working and now I'm in need of the kernel-headers and can't get them for the -19 anymore.. so I'm going to have to resort to using the new kernel, which just wont boot. It stops after 'waiting for root' for two or so minutes and drops me in a betterbox with no info at all besides that it can't mount my drives, at all
[05:04] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Heh, indeed, my mistake. :)
[05:04] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  anyway my question wasn't about what it's for
[05:04] <timas> cainus: My pleasure :)
[05:04] <joachim-n> I can see my remote mount, but it's totally empty
[05:05] <tmn_> Hi! ... how do I change the Ubuntu system charset from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 ?
[05:05] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: I should get to bed.  I would err on the side of caution - I have been told that prelinking where you don't have sufficient space can result in major b0rkage.
[05:05] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: The gentoo guys should know! :)
[05:05] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  "sufficient space" <-- numbers?
[05:05] <bluefoxicy> (and yes prelink does have that bug)
[05:06] <tmn_> are there any method to get from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[05:06] <timas> Gota go for food, be back after
[05:06] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: If I were to try it, I'd probably go for having at least as much free space as one has for all their OS files, and a huge amount of /tmp as well.
[05:06] <Cntryboy> joachim-n did you set up your mount correctly?
[05:06] <joachim-n> it used to work on Breezy
[05:06] <joachim-n> I've since upgraded to Dapper
[05:07] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: That'd even allow me to replace glibc, etc :)
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> heh
[05:07] <tdn> For some reason the Ubuntu splash screen doesn't come up on one of my computers during bootup. How come?
[05:07] <bluefoxicy> it's interesting google doesn't have this
[05:07] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Let me look.
[05:08] <Cntryboy> joachim-n: are you mounting a hd?
[05:08] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  I already know all the numbers, I have other reasons for asking ;)
[05:08] <joachim-n> mounting a share from OS X
[05:09] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got xgl/compiz installed and working.  but there seems to be some odd stuff when running vlc.  there's no window manager (i hope i got that correct) surrounding vlc windows.  any idea why?
[05:09] <arbeck77> I'm having trouble making anything USB 2.0 work
[05:09] <skavenge> any straightforward method of disabling touchpad clicking with an alps touchpad in dapper?
[05:09] <jbcnle> Hi anyone familiar with libcurl on Ubuntu ? I'm not able to get pycurl to find what is normally at /usr/local/bin/curl-config
[05:10] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: This is probably the best I can find, but I didn't use google: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/prelink.txt
[05:11] <fijam> I have got a problem. I have an ADSL modem that does not work with Ubuntu without some packages. But to install these I need hotplug, pppoe, gcc and make. What should I do?
[05:11] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Also, be aware that the numbers that site gives for requirements for prelinking the "entire system" assumes that the "system" is built according to LinuxFromScratch'es guides, and it's an extremely minimal system.
[05:11] <arbeck77> basically i get this error message when ever i plug in a 2.0 device
[05:11] <bluefoxicy> - Secondly you need at least 50 megabytes of free space to prelink the whole
[05:11] <bluefoxicy> system; up to 200 megabytes of free space is needed if you have a lot installed.
[05:11] <arbeck77> [17832257.072000]  usb 3-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 15
[05:11] <arbeck77> [17832257.480000]  usb 3-4: device not accepting address 15, error -71
[05:12] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  that's great, a reference to up to 200 megs
[05:12] <Snake> POLL: Evolution Mail or Thunderbrid?
[05:12] <lamego> jbcnle, I don't have experience which curl but the standard path for binaries on ubuntu is /usr/bin, not /usr/local/bin, I do have /usr/bin/curl-config
[05:12] <arbeck77> if i remove ehci-hcd (modprobe -r ehci-hcd) it will work as a 1.1 device
[05:12] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion: Ubuntu grew by less than 3MiB (2984 bytes per binary)
[05:12] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Believe me when I say that LFS systems are minimal.
[05:13] <Alecx> Could you help me ?
[05:13] <Healot> arbeck77: does the device detected/worked?
[05:13] <jbcnle> lamego can you check somehow which package installed that ?
[05:13] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: G"night :)  Have fun with prelinking :)
[05:13] <arbeck77> Healot: only after i remove ehci-hcd
[05:13] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion:  actually I'm writing up a security flaw in prelink ;)
[05:13] <peibol> someones plays bomberclone?
[05:13] <Alecx> Install of windows have broken grub and i can't start ubuntu
[05:13] <b-rad> Does anyone have a working CUPS install on Dapper?  I keep hanging at the 426 Upgrade Required page.
[05:13] <bluefoxicy> just needed a bit more information for background on it
[05:13] <Healot> arbeck77: do you plugged a 1.1 device to the same hub?
[05:13] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Cool :)
[05:14] <bluefoxicy> and the space usage thing seemed to be something I keep hearing about
[05:14] <lamego> jbcnle, I have installed libcurl3-dev right now, just to check your problem, I guess it came from it
[05:14] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Are you posting this on a website? I might check it out.
[05:14] <jbcnle> I don't have the dev version
[05:14] <bluefoxicy> Arafangion: gonna sell it to LWN
[05:14] <arbeck77> Healot: there is no hub, it's straight into the computer.  My mouse is USB 1.1 and in another port
[05:14] <jbcnle> that might be it lamego - where do I get that ?
[05:14] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Cool, they just got another reader ;)
[05:14] <tmn_> can someone help me with this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202960
[05:14] <Arafangion> bluefoxicy: Cya :)
[05:14] <lamego> jbcnle, just: sudo apt-get install libcurl3-dev
[05:15] <jbcnle> word thanks lamego
[05:15] <bluefoxicy> later
[05:16] <Healot> is it connected at the side-by-side port? the mouse and the 2.0 device? arbeck77
[05:16] <Cntryboy> Anyone know how to make vlc my default player, so stupid totem won't keep popping up?
[05:16] <jbcnle> lamego have a look at this - maybe you can tell me what's going wrong with the gcc http://paste.plone.org/4869
[05:16] <joachim-n> what does WINS server mean?
[05:17] <midas> hi everybody
[05:17] <arbeck77> Healot, no.  The mouse is in the back, the usb 2.0 devices are in the front (I've tried a camera, a HD and an iPod)
[05:17] <Frogzoo> the light on my usb key stays on even after it's been unmounted - how can I get it to turn off once it's unmounted?
[05:17] <Thib_G> Hello
[05:17] <Healot> arbeck77: what device are you trying to connect anyways?
[05:17] <skavenge> right now i'm having to run 'modprobe -r bcm43xx' then 'modprobe ndiswrapper' then ejecting the wireless nic and reinserting to get it to work on bootup, can i solve this so it will work automatically?
[05:17] <Frogzoo> joachim-n: WINS= windows name service - samba can act as a WINS server np
[05:17] <joachim-n> ok
[05:17] <Thib_G> I would like to add SAGEM FAST 800 modem support in a LiveCD
[05:18] <tmn_> Are there any method to change from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 in ubuntu 6.06 LTS? Not everyone is using UTF-8 and the aterm doesn't seeme to support it.
[05:18] <tmn_> The terminal displya the Norwegian characters OK, but when i connect to a remote shell, it displays some unreadable characters. So is there a solution to this problem.. or a way to get back to iso-8859-1 .. I'm a fan to aterm, and I don't think aterm is supporting UTF-8 =/
[05:18] <lamego> jbcnle, curl-config --version
[05:18] <Thib_G> But I can't install it with chroot
[05:18] <joachim-n> well the ethernet connection is not the problem - I can see web pages from OS X's apache
[05:18] <lamego> jbcnle, the curl version provided for ubuntu doesn't meet the requirements for pycurl
[05:18] <Thib_G> ( depmod & uname are retrieving host system informations )
[05:18] <jbcnle> :-(
[05:18] <lamego> jbcnle, did you checked if there is a pycurl version available so that you don't need to compile it manually ?
[05:19] <jbcnle> yes I looked in packages
[05:19] <Frogzoo> skavenge: put the driver names in the right order in /etc/modules & reboot
[05:19] <_nano_> how do I prevent network manager from asking me the gnome keyring password everytime i boot or reconnect?
[05:19] <jbcnle> but nothing came up
[05:19] <arbeck77> Healot, right now my camera.  But I also have an iPod and an external HD that I would like to use sometimes
[05:19] <jbcnle> there should be
[05:19] <lamego> jbcnle, apt-cache search python curl
[05:19] <lamego> it did came up :)
[05:19] <lamego> python2.4-pycurl - Python bindings to libcurl
[05:19] <jbcnle> whoa
[05:19] <tmn_> :(
[05:19] <lamego> just install it with apt :)
[05:19] <midas> i want to install opera,but i have a prob :(  it doesnt install because of this : not writable by user "midas". sudo didn't help too what can i do now ??
[05:19] <jbcnle> ok thanks for that cmd
[05:20] <jbcnle> it will sure come in handy lamego
[05:20] <lamego> midas, when did you gor that error ?
[05:20] <lamego> jbcnle, np :)
[05:20] <BIAF> anyone here good with the ins and outs of webmin
[05:20] <Arafangion> tmn: What feature of aterm do you like? (Apart from the speed)
[05:20] <joachim-n> how do I enable NFS sharing>
[05:20] <Thib_G> How to compile a module for a LiveCD system ( in chroot, depmod is reffering to the host system :( )
[05:20] <Thib_G> ?
[05:21] <lamego> joachim-n, you mean installing an nfs service ?
[05:21] <midas> i went to the dir, and used ./install.sh. the installation starts, (i can choose y,n,c) and after that i get this msg
[05:21] <joachim-n> yes. I've just installed nfs-common with synaptic. how do I now get it as a sharing option?
[05:22] <midas> User "midas" does not have write access to /etc
[05:22] <midas>  System wide configuration files:
[05:22] <midas>   /etc/opera6rc
[05:22] <midas>   /etc/opera6rc.fixed
[05:22] <midas>  were not installed.
[05:22] <Arafangion> tmn: Are you willing to consider using urxvt instead? It's a decent terminal emulator, though I don't believe it has transparency.
[05:22] <lamego> midas, sudo ./install.sh
[05:23] <montoya> hi
[05:23] <montoya> i have a problem
[05:23] <Arafangion> tmn: In any case, to change your encoding, you have to change your locales, and then start aterm using that locale.
[05:23] <montoya> with perl fo my new kubuntu
[05:23] <montoya> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[05:23] <montoya> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[05:23] <montoya>         LANGUAGE = "it_IT",
[05:23] <montoya>         LC_ALL = "it_IT@euro",
[05:23] <montoya>         LANG = "it_IT@euro"
[05:23] <montoya>     are supported and installed on your system.
[05:23] <midas> thx lamego now it worked :) i've tested it with sudo,but it didn't work first time
[05:23] <Arafangion> tmn: I'm heading off to bed. G'night.
[05:23] <midas> thx a lot
[05:24] <lamego> midas, you made some error the first time :) np
[05:24] <midas> :)
[05:24] <montoya> i'm italian...
[05:24] <montoya> my english is very void!!!
[05:24] <Thib_G> Nobody knows how to compile a module for a different ( LiveCD ) system ?
[05:25] <lamego> montoya, try System -> Administration -> Language Support
[05:25] <lamego> and make sure the italian language support is installed
[05:25] <_nano_> is there a way to bypass the keyring password prompt in the network manager applet?
[05:26] <beefsprocket> can somone take a look at this postgresql pastebin error I'm getting? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16371
[05:26] <cappicard> WTF... I can't right click on any inline image and save them in evolution
[05:26] <beefsprocket> can't get psotgresql-8.1 to generate it's necessary files on install
[05:26] <montoya> but for kde programs, i don't have a problem
[05:26] <HiP_P> montoya: /join #ubuntu-it
[05:27] <montoya> i have a problem with gkt programs
[05:27] <montoya> ok tks
[05:27] <Frogzoo> also, any suggestions how to get my pcmcia disk to automount?
[05:27] <Frogzoo> well, compact flash actually
[05:28] <lamego> beefsprocket, I did a "sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.1" right now, it worked flawless on my system
[05:28] <beefsprocket> that's odd then
[05:29] <beefsprocket> you see the error I got lamego ?
[05:29] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why linux can't support 2 pppd connections at the same time? For example being online with my external dial up modem and having a caller id program to screen calls at the same time?
[05:29] <beefsprocket> if I su postgres I get another error
[05:29] <lamego> yes, permission denied, which is strange, assumming you are running apt-get install with root
[05:29] <beefsprocket> indeed I am
[05:29] <lamego> beefsprocket, because it worked fine for me I believe you had some previous postgres configuration
[05:30] <lamego> let me try remove/install on my system
[05:30] <beefsprocket> once in the past
[05:30] <lamego> ok, so thats the problem
[05:30] <beefsprocket> but I used --purge, removed the user/group, took every trace of postgres off my system
[05:30] <lamego> the old versions had some files with some privileges that are not beeing overrided by the installer
[05:31] <lamego> maybe the --purge is not really taking care of everything on this case
[05:31] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:31] <beefsprocket> lamego: here it is -- if I can fix this problem it might work -- bash: groups: command not found
[05:31] <lamego> ouch, no groups command ?
[05:31] <beefsprocket> that's when I su to postgres user
[05:31] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: you need to set 'unit' in /etc/ppp/peers/provider
[05:31] <beefsprocket> do I need to edit the path for that user in /etc/passwd /etc/group etc.?
[05:32] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: man pppd
[05:32] <garar> hi
[05:32] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo care if I msg you
[05:32] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: sry, don't do pms
[05:32] <lamego> well, you shouldn't need to su postgres
[05:32] <lamego> postgres is just for the program use
[05:32] <Cntryboy> Well what do you mean as far as doing what you suggested? Or do you have a page I can go read?
[05:32] <lamego> probably it is not getting the profile set, no path to /usr/bin, thats is not problem you are not expected to use the postgres user
[05:33] <Cntryboy> I've done minicom and my modem does accept caller id, but it locks out my connection to the internet and vice versa
[05:33] <beefsprocket> lamego: postgres:x:113:113:PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[05:33] <beefsprocket> that's the line in /etc passwd
[05:33] <garar> how can i check bootsector?
[05:33] <garar> dosfsck?
[05:33] <ThatsMe> HI all. Gnome doesn't see my sound card ... help appreciated  :-)
[05:33] <ikki> !edgy
[05:33] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[05:34] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: like I say 'man pppd'  - pppd dialout uses ppp0 by default, so maybe if you set 'unit 1' in /etc/ppp/peers/###, it should work
[05:34] <lamego> beefsprocket, the --purge does not delete the postgres user/group
[05:35] <lamego> beefsprocket, do a remove --purge now, then look fod any postgres owned files
[05:35] <lamego> for
[05:35] <beefsprocket> lamego: I tried that already
[05:35] <Cntryboy> so by setting it unit 1 would that make my dialout use ppp1?
[05:36] <Cntryboy> kinda confusing for me
[05:36] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo do you know of a step by step page I can read to do this..
[05:36] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: 1st - have you found the file your dialout uses - /etc/ppp/peers/XXXX ?
[05:36] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: it's most likely called /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider ...
[05:37] <vanberge> if anybody uses irssi - i just made a pretty cool icon for it if you wanted to use it for a launcher
[05:37] <Cntryboy> i'm on dialup not dsl
[05:37] <girish> hi i am not able to run php with apache....
[05:37] <girish> can ny1 help
[05:37] <girish> ?
[05:37] <Kyral> girish: whats the problem
[05:37] <ThatsMe> Hello, anybody care to help me with a Gnome sound problem? Please? :-)
[05:37] <Frogzoo> vanberge: maybe gnome.org would want it... ?
[05:37] <girish> Kyral
[05:38] <Kyral> I mean there are a bunch of reasons why it make not work :P
[05:38] <fishsticks> That's me, just ask away
[05:38] <fishsticks> thatsme
[05:38] <fishsticks> lol
[05:38] <hughes> tcho
[05:38] <lamego> gimmulf, have you installed them using apt ?
[05:38] <fishsticks> just ask =P
[05:38] <lamego> I mean, girish
[05:38] <beefsprocket> lamego: might having /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- files as well as group and group- files have something to do with this?
[05:38] <lamego> beefsprocket, no
[05:38] <TankEnMate> anyone know how to control from the xorg.conf file which interrupts the inactivity code checks?
[05:38] <beefsprocket> ok
[05:38] <ThatsMe> HI there Fishsticks. My sound blaster is working in some apps. But not in Gnome i.e. for event sounds.
[05:39] <TankEnMate> i'd prefer not to have to trawl through the source
[05:39] <fishsticks> hmm...
[05:39] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: will that still work even though I'm using dial up and not dsl?
[05:39] <lamego> beefsprocket, your problem is a "simple" user/group and permissions issue, but well it does require some analisys :P
[05:39] <fishsticks> thatsme, that's a good one
[05:39] <blenda> hi! are there any significant improvements in the memtest function of the ubuntu cd since breezy?
[05:39] <ThatsMe> Fishsticks: if I go to Sound Prefs the default sound card is empty and without any options to select.
[05:39] <beefsprocket> lamego: I'm running find across the whole drive atm
[05:39] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: yes - the device is used by pppd regardless
[05:39] <Kyral> blenda: memtest kinda hasn't changed
[05:40] <blenda> Kyral: ok, thanks
[05:40] <lamego> TankEnMate, inactivity code checks?
[05:40] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: however, you need to find the right file in /etc/ppp/peers/
[05:40] <ThatsMe> Fishsticks: after install (Edubuntu 6.06) the sound balster was not detected at all. I had to add sb to modules.conf
[05:41] <lamego> blenda, I believe the memtest program is kind of an old utility, which type of improvement do you expect on it ?
[05:41] <infinity_> does anyone know how i can enable SMP support?
[05:41] <TankEnMate> lamego: yes, the Xorg server checks wether the user is inactive by checking the keyboard / mice (i8042 driver) to see if the user is idle, if it is, then it turns off the screen etc etc
[05:41] <cfh_dev> How do I determine what device is my sound?
[05:41] <lamego> infinity_, you need to install the kerl with smp support
[05:41] <girish_> hiii Kyral i am sorry i got disconnected....well the problem is that wen i click the php file in the browser it opens up the the download dialogue window . I added 'LoadModule libphp.so' to httpd.conf but it says cannot find the file libphp.so kyral can u elp plz?
[05:41] <Frogzoo> blenda: later is always better ;) - memtest is always upgrading to account for newer bioses
[05:41] <TankEnMate> lamego: it does it by checking the number of interrupts from the /proc/interrupts file
[05:42] <Kyral> its not libphp is it?
[05:42] <fishsticks> thatsme, i really am stumped
[05:42] <vanberge> does anybody know a command switch that will launch gnome-terminal full screen?
[05:42] <infinity_> lamego: ok, im using this guide : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064     but when i change the driver to nv or vesa in the xorg.conf instead of nvidia it always makes xserver fail to start
[05:42] <ThatsMe> Fishsticks: is the soundcard suppoesed to be defined in Xorg.conf?
[05:42] <girish_> then wat is it
[05:42] <Cntryboy> to find out the right file
[05:42] <girish_> ??
[05:42] <fishsticks> thatsme, no
[05:42] <Kyral> girish_: look in /usr/lib/modules/apache2
[05:42] <Kyral> I THINK
[05:42] <lamego> infinity_, thats not about SMP !
[05:42] <fishsticks> thatsme: sound is handled in alsa
[05:42] <Cntryboy> would I go to /etc/ppp/peers?
[05:42] <TankEnMate> lamego: i have a number of keyboards and mice connected to one machine, so i need to add to the list of interrupts for the Xorg server to check..
[05:42] <Kyral> gah...I'd have to login to my server machine
[05:42] <sws1> gnome-terminal --full-screen
[05:42] <Frogzoo> fishsticks: man gnome-terminal I'm guessing, or maybe gnome-terminal --help
[05:42] <Kyral> wait
[05:42] <vanberge> infinity_: what is your screen resolution?  maybe those drivers dont support your res?
[05:42] <kidwithjedipower> I've installed w32codecs so I can play my videos from when I was on windows etc., but when I play the video in vlc, I only get sound, but when I play it in Movie Player I only get video.. any thoughts?
[05:42] <Kyral> girish: look in /etc/apache2
[05:42] <girish_> kyral?wat shud i look for?
[05:42] <ThatsMe> fishsticks: well, thats one blind alley I won't run down then. Thanks.
[05:43] <blenda> lamego: i wasn't expecting any specifical improvements actually, just wanted to know if there were any improvements at all
[05:43] <blind> I wouldn't run down an alley, either.
[05:43] <TankEnMate> lamego: i was hoping there is an undcoumented xorg.conf file entry i could tweak..
[05:43] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: I sure wish I could talk to you in pm, this crap in here confuses me with my slow connection and scroll lag
[05:43] <Kyral> girish: there should be a directory called "mods-available" and "mods-enabled"
[05:43] <rilick> Ghetto_smurf [[] ] 
[05:43] <girish_> ok
[05:43] <rilick> xD
[05:43] <lamego> TankEnMate, ops, ok , don't know much about it, but I don't believe that is setup at the Xorg level, Xorg points to system devices which need to be setup at the kernel level (I think)
[05:43] <blenda> Frogzoo: ok, i guess it doesn't matter then since this bios is about 8 years old :)
[05:43] <girish_> so wat shud i do aft that
[05:43] <vanberge> sws1: that doesnt work for me
[05:43] <Kyral> girish_: look in mods-available
[05:43] <infinity_> vanberge: 1280x1024 this was the defualt that i had right afte r i instaalle dunbuntu
[05:44] <girish_> ok
[05:44] <Kyral> girish_: is there anything that says PHP?
[05:44] <girish_> kyral
[05:44] <lamego> you can configur Xorg to use /dev/my_mouse_at_irq_n
[05:44] <infinity_> lamego: do u kno of a guide about smp?
[05:44] <vanberge> sws1: nvm, works fine.  :-)
[05:44] <Ghetto_smurf> Rilick
[05:44] <strav> he all... can anyone tell me why I have hard times finding uncommon ubuntu repositories? where are these goddamn repositories listed? (I'm actually on the ubuntu community site, searching for a repository for unstable releases)
[05:44] <sws1> hmm vanberge, me neither
[05:44] <Ghetto_smurf> fu
[05:44] <girish_> lemme c kyral
[05:44] <fishsticks> hey thatsme
[05:44] <lamego> infinity_, erm, installing support for smp is just: sudo apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[05:44] <fishsticks> thatsme: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1090214&postcount=10
[05:44] <vanberge> strav: are you talking about universe / multiverse?
[05:44] <lamego> assuming you have intel smp
[05:44] <TankEnMate> lamego: well from my look at the documentation (which could be out of date since it is a couple of years old pre freedesktop.org era) it checks the /proc/interrupts file which every linux kernel exports..
[05:44] <infinity_> lamego: thats all i have to do?
[05:45] <lamego> strav, there is no such thing and "unstable" repository
[05:45] <ThatsMe> fishsticks: ah, what's that then? :-)  I'll take a look. Thanks!
[05:45] <lamego> as
[05:45] <sws1> vanberge: have you tried the --geometry= switch?
[05:45] <TankEnMate> lamego: i guess i'll have to go trawling through the source :(
[05:45] <rilick> voces sois todos uns palhaos
[05:45] <rilick> \m/
[05:45] <fishsticks> thatsme: just an idea, you said you had a soundblaster
[05:45] <Healot> !pt
[05:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:45] <girish_> Kyral i dont have such folders there............
[05:45] <strav> should be universe (I'm looking for the new inkscape that just came out)
[05:45] <TankEnMate> healot: heh :)
[05:45] <lamego> infinity_, yes, that will install an SMP capable kernel, you will need to reboot after it
[05:45] <Kyral> girish_: are you running Ubuntu?
[05:46] <girish_> yeah i am
[05:46] <infinity_> lamego: wow lol that easy thanks :P
[05:46] <sws1> I did a gnome-terminal --geometry=1024x768 and it opened full screen (or close to it) on my laptop.
[05:46] <Kyral> girish_: apache2 or apache1?
[05:46] <strav> lamego: quote from the inkscape site: Debian Dependencies  everything is available in the unstable apt repositories.
[05:46] <Kyral> Why the heck is Apache1 even IN the repos still
[05:46] <girish_> well idonno sorry...
[05:46] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: can you help me find a step by step site I can read please??? I really need to get this working I can't get any calls while on linux..
[05:46] <Cntryboy> I need to know whos calling lol
[05:47] <Kyral> girish_: if in /etc there is a directory called "apache" then you have Apache 1, if there is one called apache2, then you have apache2
[05:47] <girish_> Kyral it is apache 1.3.33
[05:47] <ThatsMe> fishsticks: Interesting, lspci does not report an audio device on my system
[05:47] <Kyral> then the folder will be apache
[05:47] <lamego> strav, ubuntu is not debian !
[05:47] <girish_> ok
[05:47] <Kyral> Just based on it
[05:47] <kidwithjedipower> does anyone know how to get .avi movies to play in linux?
[05:48] <fishsticks> thatsme: yipes, thats what i feared would happen... try asking again, i really don't know the solution
[05:48] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: there is no step by step - it's one setting in one file
[05:48] <Healot> !mp3
[05:48] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <kidwithjedipower> thanks ubotu, I'll check that out... but I might be back
[05:48] <girish_> Kyral but i dont have modules named folders in that folder named apache
[05:48] <Cntryboy> okay what is the first step I should do
[05:48] <lamego> kidwithjedipower, or try easy ubuntu
[05:48] <Cntryboy> and with what command
[05:48] <strav> lamego: well the next time you install a .deb, do me a favor... say ubuntu is not  debian and uninstall it.
[05:48] <Kyral> girish_: rip out Apache1 and install Apache2 :P
[05:48] <kidwithjedipower> easy ubuntu?
[05:48] <girish_> i juz have ok
[05:49] <girish_> ok
[05:49] <fishsticks> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:49] <lamego> strav, well, the next try you try to install a "Debian" .deb and it complains about dependency problems, do me a favor, go away
[05:49] <lamego> time
[05:49] <kidwithjedipower> thanks..
[05:49] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: cd@cd-desktop:/etc/ppp/peers$ dir
[05:49] <Cntryboy> ppp0  provider  wvdial  wvdial-pipe
[05:50] <strav> lamego: dependency problems aren't a big deal...
[05:50] <lamego> or better, point your repositories to a debian, and you will notice the difference
[05:50] <Kyral> strav: if you HAVE to, use "sudo apt-get source" for the Debian package and rebuild it
[05:50] <VxJasonxV> I was wondering if anyone could help me wrangle a dual monitor (single video card) problem in submission
[05:50] <VxJasonxV> I think the X settings and KDE settings are fighting each other, and making things difficult
[05:50] <lamego> the point is, for ubuntu there is no such thing as unstable repositories, the development version is edgy, you can use edgy if you want something "unstable"
[05:50] <VxJasonxV> I'm using an ATI x350, and right now the screens are in 'clone' mode.
[05:51] <sws1> anyone have luck (good luck) getting Windows Media Player working in 6.06?
[05:51] <TankEnMate> Vx: you need to set one screen "above", "below", "left" or "right" of the first..
[05:51] <lamego> windows media player on ubuntu ?
[05:51] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: I'm guessing provider - open it up - add a new line 'unit 1'  & 'sudo ifdown provider'   'sudo ifup provider'
[05:51] <strav> lamego: .... new inkscape should be there. but I still wonder where can I find the list of the available repositories (servers and such)?
[05:51] <Kyral> ain't gonna happen :P
[05:51] <sws1> yeah lamego, wmp through wine
[05:52] <Kyral> WMP sucks c'mon
[05:52] <Kyral> why?
[05:52] <sws1> MLB "Gameday Audio" requires it, or at least thinks it does
[05:52] <lamego> strav, the plain list of the repositories is on /etc/apt/sources.list, some of them are disabled you will need to uncomment them
[05:52] <Kyral> At least use something like Media Player Classic
[05:52] <sws1> if I could figure out a way to fake it out, I'd use anything else
[05:52] <TankEnMate> Vx: in the "ServerLayout" section you need an entry something like this..
[05:52] <VxJasonxV> TankEnMate, doesn't the aticonfig binary do that for me?
[05:52] <VxJasonxV> with the --dtop parm?
[05:52] <TankEnMate> Vx:         Screen          "Screen Two" below "Screen One"
[05:52] <lamego> strav, or via Menu, System -> Administration -> Software Properties
[05:53] <TankEnMate> Vx: i have never used the aticonfig stuff. i write my config files by hand..
[05:53] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: nothing is listed unit anything in the provider
[05:53] <strav> let me see... I edited that file quite a few times... by now my list is a mess I'm afraid.
[05:53] <garoth> Hi!
[05:53] <TankEnMate> Vx: if you are wanting to use both screens as one big virtual screen you'll need to turn on Xinerama as well
[05:53] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: I'm guessing provider - open it up - add a new line 'unit 1'  & 'sudo ifdown provider'   'sudo ifup provider'
[05:53] <strav> (well at least I'm not shure if the complete list is there.)
[05:54] <strav> There should be anyways a web ressource for that I cannot believe it
[05:54] <VxJasonxV> arok
[05:54] <TankEnMate> Vx: see if there is a setting to turn on Xinerama, that is probably what you are looking for...
[05:54] <TankEnMate> Vx: also I have never used KDE..
[05:54] <Cntryboy> so add this whole line ---   'unit 1'  & 'sudo ifdown provider'   'sudo ifup provider'
[05:54] <kristian> How can i get mp3 files to work with ubuntu?
[05:54] <Kyral> !mp3
[05:54] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:55] <sws1> heh
[05:55] <TankEnMate> ubotu is getting a bit of a work out!
[05:55] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: do you talk on aim or yahoo?
[05:55] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: nope
[05:56] <Cntryboy> well is there anywhere we can get just us talking? I'm confused seriously bad with 1 line every 10 min  lol
[05:57] <strav> Then again, via the synaptic interface or via /etc/apt/sources-list ... if I wanna add a new rep, where the hell do I get it's server address and such.
[05:57] <martibs> the new user-list in XChat-Gnome is stupid :(
[05:57] <martibs> can I change it to a traditional one, somehow?
[05:57] <strav> (say the server isn't in the list)
[05:57] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: 1 line every 10min? turn off your bit torrent or whatever - irc takes no bandwidth
[05:57] <vanberge> hmm... would anyone be able to tell me why "gnome-terminal --full-screen" would not work from a launcher icon??  :-(
[05:58] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: 2.1KB lol
[05:58] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: anyways should I put 'unit 1'  & 'sudo ifdown provider'   'sudo ifup provider' just like that even with the '   ' ect.
[05:59] <lamego> vanberge, it works for me, tested it right now
[05:59] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: the ifdown/ifup is to take the i/f down & up again - you just need to add the 'unit 1' to the file
[05:59] <CokeNCode> hey, i had a program i used to stream winamp radio stations ... but, i can't remember the name of it now ... the art ws kinda like anime
[06:00] <CokeNCode> anyone know the program i mean ?
[06:00] <vanberge> lamego: i am tring "gnome-terminal -e irssi --hide-menubar --full-screen"
[06:00] <vanberge> lamego: it kicks back to normal term size
[06:00] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: god I hate when I'm stupid :(
[06:00] <lamego> vanberge, i hope you didn't selected the "run in a terminal" option :P
[06:01] <sws1> vanberge, did you try the --geometry=  switch for gnome-terminal?
[06:01] <lamego> vanberge, I have just tried gnome-terminal, nothing running on it
[06:01] <xtacocorex> is there a program that generates metacity themes or is it all done by hand?
[06:01] <vanberge> sws1: no i have not tried that
[06:01] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: now ppp0 actually has my username and password to dial into my provider. Would I still use provider or ppp0?
[06:02] <vanberge> sws1: lamego i think i have it...  if i do -e irssi before the other two switches, it seems to work
[06:02] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ?
[06:02] <lamego> valehru, again, it worked fine for me, irssi got fullscreen
[06:02] <lamego> oops i mean vanberge
[06:03] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: sure, but its not going to give away anything dealing with my account with my provider and stuff where ppl can use my info right?
[06:04] <kidwithjedipower> lamego, thank you very much. easyubuntu did the trick. I'm gonna go now, thank you again, very much
[06:04] <midas> got to go thx 4 help :)
[06:05] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: ?
[06:05] <lsuactiafner> is there a tool to allow windows to read linux partitions?
[06:05] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: there's not pw info in /etc/network/interfaces - just pastebin that one
[06:05] <Cntryboy> ok
[06:05] <movi> i have a problem with network-manager
[06:05] <movi> using dapper, ndiswrapper
[06:06] <vanberge> it seems like a bug... executing "gnome-termianl --full-screen" works like 1 out of five times
[06:06] <movi> nm-manager says it cant associate the card
[06:06] <fishsticks> !songbird
[06:06] <vanberge> both from launcher and from command line
[06:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about songbird
[06:06] <movi> eg it fails to set the appropiate target MAC
[06:06] <GameOver69> can anyone help me with getting videos from yahoo working in firefox with the mplayer plugin... they seem to load/buffer then it just says stopped
[06:06] <girish> hi i edited httpd.conf  to add LoadModule php5_module /usr/libapache2/modules/libphp5.so but it says some syntax error
[06:06] <girish> can ny1 help
[06:07] <Detox> question regarding mail server ,,,, use postfix as it is in ubuntu ,,, or use something else
[06:07] <Detox> ?
[06:07] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: it's getting there :( slow connection
[06:08] <sws1> *shrug* detox, I like postfix but I've not using it in ubuntu.
[06:08] <Detox> ok thanks
[06:08] <girish>  hi i edited httpd.conf  to add LoadModule php5_module /usr/libapache2/modules/libphp5.so but it says some syntax error can ny1 help?
[06:09] <sws1> of course it depends on how much mail is going to go through the server
[06:09] <blackline> Whats the packagename for X?
[06:09] <sws1> and other things
[06:09] <sws1> oh
[06:09] <sws1> he left
[06:09] <lamego> girish, I have installed apache2+php5 with "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5" and nothing else, there is no need for manual configuration
[06:09] <Healot> xserver-xorg
[06:09] <vanberge> sws1: is that switch you were talking about a better way to control size?  the --full-screen seems buggy
[06:09] <girish> ok
[06:09] <blackline> Healot thank you
[06:10] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: for some reason pastebin is taking its sweet time a;ldskjfasl;dkjf
[06:10] <lamego> vanberge, irssis worked fullscreen for me, with your command
[06:10] <lamego> inside a desktop launcher
[06:10] <sws1> --geometry seems to allow you to control the size, yes.  --full-screen doesn't work for me either, or at least it doesn't open in anything near full-screen
[06:10] <HiP_P> ompaul: you still here?
[06:10] <sws1> it works, just not as full-screen
[06:10] <fiveiron> ugh... how do you pass a directory of images to glslideshow?
[06:10] <s|k> someone needs to write a helpful book about grep
[06:10] <vanberge> lamego: i have a luancher set up that just does "gnome-terminal --full-screen"
[06:10] <ompaul> HiP_P, undergoing strain with xgl myself :-)
[06:10] <vanberge> and it only opens full screen 1 out of 5 times
[06:10] <vanberge> if i keep clicking it
[06:11] <carlfk> how come 'apt-get remove nvidia-glx" says "not installed" but I see "module license NVIDIA taints kernel" ?
[06:11] <girish> Thank U Lamego
[06:11] <HiP_P> haha
[06:11] <ompaul> HiP_P, I have a dev box here and I think I have pushed it too far
[06:11] <lamego> well, i just tested it 2 or 3 times :)
[06:11] <HiP_P> well done what you said
[06:11] <vanberge> lamego: well what would cause that for me??  i have no idea!  :-(
[06:11] <lamego> s|k, there are plenty of books about grep
[06:11] <HiP_P> but the res is to hi
[06:11] <HiP_P> *high
[06:11] <lamego> vanberge, don't know :|
[06:12] <CokeNCode> come on guys, software for streaming winamp radio stations
[06:12] <CokeNCode> help me out
[06:12] <CokeNCode> i'm begging here
[06:12] <valehru> lamego, glad to know I can help by just being here ;)
[06:12] <sws1> does xmms do that, coke?
[06:12] <Frogzoo> CokeNCode: I think amarok can do it too
[06:12] <sws1> yeah
[06:12] <CokeNCode> Frogzoo, THANK YOU !!! THAT'S THE SOFTWARE I HAD ... THANKS MAN!!!
[06:12] <dipnlik> CokeNCode: amarok, listen, maybe xmms too
[06:12] <carlfk> CokeNCode: URL you are trying to listen to would be good
[06:13] <CokeNCode> yeh, it's amarok i'm looking for. thanks for the help guys.
[06:13] <vanberge> lamego: do i have to do somethign special to add command switches to a launcher?  i just typed them after "gnome-terminal"
[06:13] <sws1> wtg frogzoo
[06:13] <s|k> lamego: I'll have to get one then :/
[06:13] <lamego> well I have just copy paste it from xchat to the command inputbox and it worked
[06:13] <lamego> you could try using " "
[06:13] <fiveiron> how do you pass a directory of images to glslideshow?
[06:14] <Cntryboy_> godddddddd
[06:14] <Cntryboy_> Frogzoo: pastebin is being a pain
[06:14] <Frogzoo> fiveiron: have u tried: glsideshow /dir/path
[06:14] <LetMe> Hi every one
[06:14] <Cntryboy_> go there and look on the right side and go to the name C
[06:15] <Cntryboy_> i can't click on it to get the link its tooo slow for me today
[06:15] <LetMe> i have messed up something on my dapper installation
[06:15] <Cntryboy_> left side rather
[06:15] <krazykit> Cntryboy_: try another pastebin like http://rafb.net/paste/
[06:15] <vanberge> lamego: something is way effed up on my computer... just executing the command 'gnome-terminal --full-screen" will only work 5 out of 10 times.
[06:15] <LetMe> now the x server does not start
[06:15] <fiveiron> Frogzoo, yep...
[06:15] <vanberge> geez that is frustrating
[06:15] <lamego> vanberge, it could be a bug with gnome-terminal
[06:15] <lamego> vanberge, fill a bug report against it
[06:16] <LetMe> it says cannot start greeter application
[06:16] <LetMe> change the config files
[06:16] <LetMe> whatever that is
[06:16] <Cntryboy_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rD5INs37.html
[06:16] <Cntryboy_> Frogzoo: see if that works
[06:16] <Jerr> I want to make a new user that can't become su (that is, use sudo) with his own password. I want to make it a limited account only to run hlds (half life dedicated server), with like access to cp, vi, wget, tar etc to edit, copy, delete files and so (plugins, etc)
[06:16] <LetMe> i chnged permission of /lib/lsb/init-functions
[06:16] <lamego> hey, wait, It is also buggy for me
[06:16] <LetMe> and this error is appearing
[06:16] <lamego> tried a few times more, and it didn't got full screen
[06:17] <lamego> it must be a bug with nome-terminal
[06:17] <HiP_P> ompaul: what was the command change the card again
[06:17] <lamego> LetMe, btw, why would you want to do that ?
[06:18] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy_: this makes its a bit more complicated...
[06:18] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:18] <LetMe> stupidity lamego
[06:18] <Cntryboy_> what does?
[06:18] <LetMe> i thought this file was not being executed properly ... turns out was something else
[06:18] <Jerr> I need to add the user from the shell (over ssh)
[06:18] <HiP_P> charge
[06:18] <HiP_P> *cheers
[06:19] <vanberge> lamego: oh well, thnkx for the help.  seems like nothign i can do here
[06:19] <sws1> adduser?
[06:19] <ompaul> jenda, they don't have those rights automatically
[06:19] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy_: you'll need to change all the references of ppp0 to ppp1 in /etc/network/interfaces, and rename /etc/ppp/peers/ppp0 -> /etc/ppp/peers/ppp1  - then add 'unit 1' in there
[06:19] <lamego> Leeme put it back at 644
[06:19] <LetMe> i did that lamego
[06:19] <LetMe> now at bootup the kernel log fails
[06:20] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy_: btw - what's picking up the dial in?
[06:20] <LetMe> then i found that start-stop-daemon is not able to execute /sbin/klogd
[06:20] <Cntryboy_> picking up the dial in?
[06:20] <Cntryboy_> what do you mean, i'm dumber as the hills when it comes to internet pppd ppp and such lol
[06:21] <LetMe> i changed permissions of /sbin/klogd to 755 but no effect ... plus my /etc/rc.local is blank .... has some remarks and exit 0
[06:21] <HiP_P> still getting the not installed error
[06:21] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy_: you said something else was using ppp0?
[06:21] <Jose_Maria> I have a problem. I can not remove a link from my desktop. I get the error "Not on the same file system" hen deleting .... Someone knows what is going on?
[06:22] <lamego> LeaChim, the default  /etc/rc.local is blank
[06:22] <Frogzoo> Jose_Maria: is your /home remote mounted?
[06:22] <yggdrasil> how do i clear out my apt-cache ?
[06:22] <Jerr> ok, I added user, will this user have sudo privileges?
[06:22] <LetMe> ok ... that's a relief
[06:22] <sws1> jerr, if you remove the user from the admin group he shouldn't have sudo privileges
[06:22] <Frogzoo> Jerr: no - only members of admin
[06:22] <LetMe> any idea regarding the bootup error
[06:22] <Jerr> by default they are not in admin?
[06:22] <Frogzoo> Jerr: of course not
[06:22] <HiP_P> ompaul: still getting the not installed error
[06:23] <Jerr> ok good
[06:23] <LetMe> the gnome session does not start rather a message appears cannot start greeter application. change config files setc
[06:23] <sws1> cat /etc/group to make sure
[06:23] <Cntryboy_> Frogzoo: I want to be able to be connected to insternet at the same time as having caller id so I can screen calls.. What I said about sharing ppp0 was when I minicom my modem it locked out connection meaning I couldn't dial out. Or if I dial out and im connected to the net it wouldn't let me use minicom. So basically I guess its sharing that ppp0 connection
[06:23] <sws1> or `less /etc/group`
[06:23] <ompaul> HiP_P, what did you install, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-xorg ?
[06:23] <Jerr> ok good
[06:23] <Jerr> thanks
[06:23] <HiP_P> yup
[06:23] <HiP_P> weird
[06:24] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo apt-get install xdm and see how you go
[06:24] <Jose_Maria> No. It is local
[06:24] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo apt-get install or gdm if you want that
[06:24] <HiP_P> okey dokey...cheers
[06:24] <HiP_P> i  know gdm is in
[06:24] <Jerr> so now if I want to sudo with it (or su -), can I using root or main user password?
[06:25] <sws1> it won't be able to sudo but it should be able to 'su -'
[06:25] <ikabot> Hi all. Does anyone know here use Rosegarden on Ubuntu?
[06:25] <Jerr> ok
[06:25] <Jerr> good
[06:25] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[06:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:25] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start << what do you get back from that?
[06:25] <Jose_Maria> Frogzoo: No
[06:25] <ikabot> It seems to complain about a missing midi device (/dev/sequencer)
[06:25] <Cntryboy_> Frogzoo: do you care to change what I pasted to you earlier to what it should be called with unit 1 added in so I can directly paste in the new changes?
[06:25] <neutrinomass> I somehow messed up my sound. No sound comes from the PC (cabling is OK) and no channel is muted in alsaconf. 'aplay' won't play anything either ...
[06:25] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy_: you won't get this to work just changing the ppp device...
[06:26] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can somone help me with getting swiftfox to work?
[06:26] <HiP_P> starts the gnome display manger
[06:26] <Cntryboy_> Frogzoo: you said earlier all I had to do was change some settings and add unit 1? now I can't?
[06:26] <ompaul> HiP_P, can you log in or what happens next?
[06:26] <mooreand13213> can anyone help me set up my resolution? native resolution is 1280x1024, but that doesn't show up in the list. it is in my xorg.conf
[06:26] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy_: you asked how to dial out on ppp1 - that only takes a few lines, but it won't do what you want
[06:26] <ompaul> !resolution
[06:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:26] <HiP_P> oh it logs in its just at wrong res
[06:27] <Cntryboy_> mooreand13213: you might be able to reconfigure x and manually add that resolution for xorg.conf
[06:27] <ompaul> mooreand13213, ^^ read that to correcte the resolution (hip_p that might be useful for you if you have some X)
[06:27] <HiP_P> cheers
[06:27] <ompaul> mooreand13213, that being ubotu
[06:28] <Cntryboy_> Frogzoo: i'm already dialing out how do you think i'm talking to you lol. I want to be able to have caller id also so I can screen calls because im missing a lot of calls being on linux dialed up.
[06:28] <LetMe> kernel logging fails at startup
[06:28] <LetMe> can anyone help?
[06:28] <HiP_P> back in a bit
[06:29] <lamego> LetMe what about the specific error ?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> frogzoo: do ya get me?
[06:29] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: is this a v92 modem?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: I think it supports it yes.. best data external serial modem.
[06:29] <carlfk> how bad would it be to rm -rv linux-restricted-modules?
[06:29] <LetMe> lamego: as i said earlier it says permission denied when start-stop-daemon is trying to execute /sbin/klogd
[06:30] <LetMe> lamego: i have changed the permissons to 755 but still does not work
[06:30] <carlfk> or.. what causes the nvidia module to get loaded ?
[06:30] <neutrinomass> I messed up my sound: Nothing is muted, cabling is OK, volumes are up and still no sound :( Any ideas ?
[06:30] <lamego> LetMe, are you doing it with sudo ?
[06:31] <sws1> neutrinomass:  happen to recall what you did to mess it up?  :)
[06:31] <lamego> LetMe, ls -la /sbin/klogd
[06:31] <LetMe> lamego: nopes root itself
[06:31] <mooreand13213> !resolution
[06:31] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:31] <LetMe> its 755 lamego
[06:31] <LetMe> checked that
[06:31] <kristian> !mp3
[06:31] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <neutrinomass> sws1: No idea. I don't remember touching anything sound related lately. :-/
[06:32] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: all I do on windows is install call wave and I can connect to internet and have caller id.. Now surely linux can do this, surely it can.. But I wouldn't be using call wave though and prob wouldn't need a program if minicom can already do it
[06:33] <neutrinomass> Unless the cabling isn't as OK as I think it is :-/
[06:33] <lamego> Letme: try sudo /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
[06:33] <sws1> heh
[06:34] <juanca7777_> hello everyone
[06:34] <Jerr> hmm
[06:34] <Jerr> I need to transfer ownership of a bunch of files
[06:34] <Jerr> and folders
[06:34] <juanca7777_> anyone knows a free soft, as in free beer, for the generation of UML diagrams based on source code?
[06:34] <refuze> does anybody know why when i set the screensaver to blank screen only the screen is white and not black?
[06:34] <sws1> chown -R
[06:34] <sws1> ?
[06:35] <neutrinomass> Arghhh. An adaptor had broken :( Sorry for the noise...
[06:35] <Jerr> I think so
[06:35] <LetMe> lamego: does this have an impact on subsequent boots?
[06:35] <ardchoille> bbiab
[06:35] <Rambo3> juanca7777_: what languangem i dont tnik that there are , only one i know that is close to that is posaidon
[06:36] <juanca7777_> Rambo3, C++
[06:36] <lamego> LetMe, grr thats the normal way to restart a service !
[06:36] <sws1> juanca7777: autodia?
[06:36] <Frogzoo> Cntryboy: it's definately doable - but I'm not sure someone has done it
[06:36] <juanca7777_> Rambo3, Poseidon is not free as in free been
[06:36] <juanca7777_> sws1, autodia is giving me errors
[06:36] <Rambo3> juanca7777_: uts just registration that is needed
[06:36] <LjL> or dia2code
[06:37] <HiP_P> cheers @ ompaul                    can see the screen now
[06:37] <LetMe> lamego: i meant this fails at startup ... how do i fix that?
[06:37] <lamego> LetMe, and do not start changing system files permissions just because you get a permission denined message that you don't understand
[06:37] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: okay
[06:37] <LjL> no that's actually the opposite thing
[06:37] <juanca7777_> LjL, dia2code isn't it only for .dia to source code?
[06:37] <LjL> juanca7777_: yeah, my fault
[06:37] <LetMe> lamego: i have learned that the hard way
[06:37] <Cntryboy> Frogzoo: well thx anyways
[06:37] <tritium> Yes, LetMe.  Changing system files' permissions is unwise.
[06:37] <Cntryboy> I'm going to go for a bit and eat
[06:37] <juanca7777_> LjL, no prob :)
[06:37] <Cntryboy> lates
[06:37] <sws1> jerr, be careful with 'chown -R'.  It's fairly easy to mess things up, especially when used in combination with sudo.
[06:38] <juanca7777_> or anyone know where I can get more help about autodia?
[06:38] <Jerr> I think I got it
[06:38] <Jerr> its just for a half life server
[06:38] <LetMe> lamego: another thing when the gnome session starts up after boot its displays something like cannot start greeter application ... change config files etc. any idea about that?
[06:38] <ompaul> HiP_P, no need for @ ;-) my irc client lights up and flashes when someone says my name
[06:38] <Jerr> and I was su
[06:38] <Jerr> I don't have sudo for that account :)
[06:38] <LjL> juanca7777_: i'm not entirely sure, but i think eclipse can do that, too
[06:39] <sws1> su and sudo are the same in ubuntu
[06:39] <ajay> guys aprob
[06:39] <ajay> i installed et
[06:39] <tritium> sws1: not true
[06:39] <ajay> on xubuntu
[06:39] <lamego> LetMe, at this time I believe you made too much harmfull changes which are hard to trace
[06:39] <sws1> no?
[06:39] <Jerr> no
[06:39] <LjL> sws1: not really.
[06:39] <HiP_P> ah ok cool
[06:39] <sws1> how do they differ?
[06:39] <ajay> and the screen of et is not at centre is askesw towards left
[06:39] <juanca7777_> LjL, I haven't seen that feature but I will look for it
[06:39] <Jerr> su kinda logs you in as root
[06:39] <tritium> sws1: no.  The root account is disabled on ubuntu.  Users in the admin group can use sudo.
[06:39] <LjL> sws1: sudo lets you execute a command as root. su, well, su simply shouldn't be used
[06:39] <ajay> and the screen of et is not at centre is askesw towards left
[06:39] <LetMe> lamego: well to keep track of it i only changed permissions of init-functions and reverted back
[06:39] <Lynoure> sws1: sudo = superuser do, su = switch user
[06:39] <ajay> i installed et
[06:39] <HiP_P> now to get this old mouse working
[06:39] <tritium> sws1: you can't even use su unless you re-enable the root account
[06:39] <LjL> you need to use sudo *to* use su, anyway. which shouldn't be done, at any rate
[06:40] <ajay> and the screen of et is not at centre is askesw towards left
[06:40] <kijun> hi
[06:40] <sws1> yes, but my point is that when you're logged in with su to root you have the same rights as you would when running the same command with sudo
[06:40] <LjL> tritium: you can... with sudo. not that you should.
[06:40] <lamego> LetMe, so lets rewind, why did syslogd stoped running ?
[06:40] <tritium> sws1: but they're not the same
[06:40] <sws1> er
[06:40] <kijun> I have a question of ppp (DSL) connection.
[06:40] <sws1> I don't see how they're not.
[06:40] <LjL> sws1: well, when you're root you're root, there's no question about that ;)
[06:40] <sws1> it would be uid 0 in both cases, would it not?
[06:40] <Lynoure> LjL: There are occasionally reasons to use su, reasons to switch to user other than root
[06:40] <tritium> sws1: in one case, you're logging in _as_ root.  In the other, you're using your own sudo priveleges, as that user.
[06:41] <LjL> Lynoure: you're right.
[06:41] <lzap> hi, gnomabaker says: Error trying to open /dev/hdd exclusively (Device or resource busy) I cannot burn. what to do?
[06:41] <sws1> I'm not arguing the point that they're different commands
[06:41] <Kozar4ence> Blah is it possible to ask a Kubuntu question since theres silence in #kubuntu
[06:41] <lamego> sws1, they differ on the point that you onle use sudo for specific commands, unlike su where you use a root shell
[06:41] <kijun> I have to do "pppoeconf" all the time after I reboot my computer, it is never saved the information
[06:41] <tritium> sws1: and sudo activity is logged
[06:41] <LjL> sws1: they have a different *effect*.
[06:41] <lzap> its a full CDRW... gnome probably mounted that "icon"
[06:41] <sws1> I'm saying that in ubuntu, when you su to root you have the same privileges as you do with sudo.
[06:41] <LetMe> lamego: well i was installing oracle-xe and it was giving error of /etc/init.d/functions not found ... i looked up the script and found that it first looks for /lib/lsb/init-functions and if it does not find that then it looks for /etc/init.d/function
[06:41] <lamego> swd1, they differente from an use point of view, not from a techical point of view
[06:41] <sws1> yes, agreed
[06:41] <TankEnMate> see yas!
[06:42] <LjL> sws1: no, because you *cannot* "su to root", unless you use *sudo*
[06:42] <kijun> how could I make it automatically connect without doing pppoeconf all the time... is anyone can help me?
[06:42] <lamego> LetMe, do you know that there is an oracle-xe version for debian which does not have thos problems ?
[06:42] <sws1> yes, you have to sudo to set root password the first time
[06:42] <LetMe> lamego: then i just stupidly changed the permissions of init-functions thinking that it might help ...
[06:42] <wastrel> evolution just froze gnome or metacity or something had to kill X -- is there a better way to fix that?
[06:42] <sws1> but in this case the user said he was in as root through su
[06:42] <LjL> sws1: oh, so you're taking about when you have root *enabled*. but that's not what ubuntu's like unless you (for some reason) set it to be
[06:42] <LetMe> lamego: thats the fun part i am installing that
[06:42] <Frogzoo> Kozar4ence: if #kubuntu can't answer your question...
[06:42] <lamego> LetMe, if you only did the change, you only need to rever it, and it is fixed, if is not fixed, then you did other changes
[06:43] <sws1> correct ljl.  the user had already done so
[06:43] <lamego> LetMe, the debian/ubuntu oracle-xe does not have the problem you have reported, I have installed it myself, those problems are from the RPM based version
[06:43] <LetMe> lamego: the problem was that i had a file /etc/redhat-release and the installation script thought that the system is red hat and looked for /etc/init.d/functions
[06:43] <kijun> how can I make automatic DSL connection when I reboot my computer?  can anyome help me?
[06:44] <Frogzoo> kijun: you need to fiddle with /etc/network/interfaces
[06:44] <LetMe> lamego: see my last reply
[06:44] <tritium> LetMe: how did you get a redhat-release file on ubuntu?
[06:44] <LjL> sws1: bad choice, but anyway, neither "sudo -i" nor "sudo -s" have the exact same effect as "su" (or "sudo su")
[06:44] <tritium> correct, LjL
[06:44] <Frogzoo> does dapper still use hotplug?
[06:44] <lamego> LetMe, Read carefull what I am saying, there is a Debian specific package with does not depend on Redhat files or redhat functions, and that is not what you are trying to install
[06:45] <kijun> auto lo
[06:45] <kijun> iface lo inet loopback
[06:45] <kijun> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[06:45] <kijun> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[06:45] <kijun> mapping hotplug
[06:45] <kijun>         script grep
[06:45] <kijun>         map eth0
[06:45] <kijun> # The primary network interface
[06:45] <kijun> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:45] <stefg> kijun: when running pppoeconf you'll be asked, if you want to connect at boottime. Simply say 'yes' :-)
[06:45] <kijun> auto dsl-provider
[06:45] <kijun> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[06:45] <lamego> installing oracle-xe is just as simple as "sudo apt-get install oracle-xe", if you have the proper oracle repository
[06:45] <LetMe> tritium: oracle does not have an instalation package of enterprise 10g for debian ... so this is used to trick the installer into thinking that this is a redhat machine and it moves on
[06:45] <kijun> provider dsl-provider
[06:45] <kijun> # added by pppoeconf
[06:45] <kijun> auto eth0
[06:45] <Frogzoo> kijun: please don't paste here
[06:45] <lamego> LetMe, It does for Oracle-xe
[06:45] <wastrel> dapper uses udev
[06:45] <kijun> but it doesn't work
[06:45] <tritium> kijun: use pastebin in the future
[06:46] <kijun> pastebin??  what is that
[06:46] <LjL> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:46] <stefg> another way would be 'pon dsl-provider' in the autostart-settings for gnome
[06:46] <tritium> kijun: so you don't spam the channel like you just did
[06:46] <LetMe> lamego: if u go through oracle-xe script in /etc/init.d then u will see that the script has if conditions --- if find /etc/init.d/functions then use that otherwise if find /lib/lsb/init-functions then use that
[06:47] <kijun> sorry about that
[06:47] <driggers> hello.  i'm having trouble installing maple 10 on dapper drake.  i cant execute the install script on the cd.  may I paste two lines?
[06:47] <vanberge> is multi-gnome terminal better than gnome-terminal?
[06:47] <LetMe> lamego:  but somewhere the use of function file is dependant upon the redhat-release file
[06:47] <Frogzoo> kijun: add, after 'provider dsl-provider'   the line:   'pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up'
[06:47] <tritium> driggers: you need to remount the CD, allowing files on the CD to be exectued
[06:47] <jbroome> driggers: is the install script executable
[06:47] <tritium> executed, even
[06:47] <lamego> LetMe, where did you get that oracle-xe version ?
[06:47] <driggers> aerickso@udriggers:/media/cdrom0$ ./installMaple         (the error)    bash: ./installMaple: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[06:48] <Zorya> I want to reformat my usb harddrive from NFTS to ext3, but I can't find out how. can somebody help me?
[06:48] <driggers> i tried w/ sudo as well same thig
[06:48] <LetMe> lamego: from the oss site
[06:48] <tritium> driggers: i.e., use the "exec" mount option
[06:48] <vanberge> Zorya: can you do it from system > administration > disks?
[06:48] <vanberge> (or something like that, don't remember!)
[06:48] <Frogzoo> Zorya: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd#       but first make SURE you don't have data you need there
[06:48] <vanberge> :-)
[06:48] <lamego> LetMe, like I said, I have installed oracle-xe for debian myself this week, and it didn't had those problems
[06:48] <driggers> tritium, i'll look into that now
[06:49] <LetMe> lamego: because u didn't have a redhat-release file in the /etc folder
[06:49] <jenda> how do I open the last x lines of a text file?
[06:49] <tritium> driggers: manually unmount it, and then moutn it with that option
[06:49] <sws1> tail -n N file
[06:49] <driggers> ok
[06:49] <Zorya> vanberge: I tried that, but the "format" button is gray and unavailable.
[06:49] <kijun> Frogzoo:  Thanks
[06:49] <HiP_P> ompaul: got a mouse problem
[06:49] <Frogzoo> kijun: that work?
[06:50] <jenda> Or how can I cut a file in two at a certain number of linesbefore the end?
[06:50] <tritium> HiP_P: call an exterminator
[06:50] <Zorya> Frogzoo: Should I type it in the terminal?
[06:50] <sws1> hmm jenda
[06:50] <HiP_P> ompaul: its an old one as well
[06:50] <sws1> I might use tail and head for that
[06:50] <Frogzoo> Zorya: man mkfs.ext3
[06:50] <wastrel> jenda:  tail -n <number of lines> filename
[06:50] <sws1> there are likely several ways to do it
[06:50] <kijun> Frogzoo:  I will try to reboot right now... but... is there anyway I would if it works or not without rebooting?
[06:50] <Zorya> Frogzoo: tnx
[06:50] <wastrel> jenda:  then redirect that output into a file
[06:50] <lamego> jenda, tail -nX file
[06:50] <ompaul> HiP_P, do not say serial, you can say I can't say what it is, bit don't say serial
[06:51] <jenda> thanks, wastrel lamego
[06:51] <sws1> you could find out how many lines the file is with `wc -l <file>`
[06:51] <sws1> then tail -n part of it and head -n the top half.
[06:51] <HiP_P> ompaul, ok
[06:51] <Frogzoo> kijun: first try 'sudo ifdown dsl-provider' 'sudo ifup dsl-provider'  if that works, try reboot
[06:51] <jenda> sws1: yep ;) that's it. thx
[06:51] <lamego> or you can use split
[06:51] <ompaul> HiP_P, so is it something you can mention or not?
[06:51] <sws1> split
[06:52] <sws1> that's what I was trying to think of
[06:52] <lamego> man split :P
[06:52] <HiP_P> ompaul what about the conntion is like the old kempston joysticks
[06:52] <ompaul> !joystick
[06:52] <HiP_P> *what about saying the conntion is like the old kempston joysticks
[06:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about joystick
[06:52] <sws1> split would be a better option than head and tail
[06:53] <Frogzoo> HiP_P: are you trying to say you have a serial mouse?
[06:53] <HiP_P> or like the amiga mouses
[06:53] <ompaul> Frogzoo, he is trying not to, i really don't want to read those two words side by side ;-)
[06:53] <HiP_P> ok
[06:53] <HiP_P> not side by side then
[06:53] <tritium> why, ompaul ?
[06:53] <ompaul> HiP_P, say it like it is - I will go into a corner and pull my hair out
[06:53] <jwickard> I'm running into a problem, I installed gcc, but when I run the configure script to compile the latest stable alsa drivers, I get an error that says my compiler can't make executables.
[06:54] <tritium> jwickard: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:54] <HiP_P> ser
[06:54] <ompaul> tritium, I have a very bad memory of one
[06:54] <tritium> jwickard: then, try again
[06:54] <tritium> ompaul: oh, I see...
[06:54] <HiP_P> use
[06:54] <stefg> I'm suffering from a bug in the recent kernel which (stupidly) waits for a nonexisting medium in my dvd-drive at boottime. Is there some ubergeeky clever boot-parameter to override that?
[06:54] <HiP_P> that better?
[06:55] <driggers> if i want to mount a cdrom.  where is it in dev?
[06:55] <ompaul> HiP_P, hehe  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[06:55] <kijun> Frogzoo:  I works, I will reboot right now.  Thanks for your help
[06:55] <lamego> jwickard, does gcc run ?
[06:55] <HiP_P> does it just say in big letters "NO!"
[06:55] <GameOver69> can anyone help me with getting videos from yahoo working in firefox with the mplayer plugin... they seem to load/buffer then it just says stopped
[06:55] <tritium> lamego: he needs build-essential
[06:55] <jwickard> lamego: I'm still installing build-essential
[06:55] <lamego> well, installing gcc is enough to compile a .c program :P
[06:56] <Frogzoo> GameOver69: install mpeg & other codecs
[06:56] <tritium> lamego: he needs make, so gcc is insufficient
[06:56] <Frogzoo> !restricted
[06:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <lamego> tritium, but the error he got from configure was about compiling a .c file, not about missing make :)
[06:56] <Frogzoo> GameOver69: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:56] <tritium> indeed
[06:56] <HiP_P> ah,
[06:57] <GameOver69> Frogzoo, i have all that installed
[06:57] <GameOver69> mpegs work fine
[06:57] <HiP_P> look at that page
[06:57] <GameOver69> apple trailers too
[06:57] <GameOver69> seems that yahoo... and some other sites with streaming video dont work properly
[06:57] <HiP_P> maybe missed a bit
[06:57] <rus1> I really messed up a computer. I had Windows XP Home and Ubuntu Breezy installed on one hard drive. Then, I put another hard drive in there and tried to install Windows XP Pro on it. The install did not finish successfully - I think there's something wrong with the hard drive - but when I tried to start up the computer it told me I was missing a DLL and to re-install it, without bringing up GRUB.
[06:57] <jwickard> the build script got farther that time, now it says I need the kernel source, I can just get that from the repositories right?
[06:57] <Frogzoo> !mplayer
[06:57] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[06:57] <rus1> Any ideas how I can fix this?
[06:57] <bina> hi, how can i find a list of installed packages that contain the name cairo?  The Cairo libs seem to have broken my GTK
[06:57] <Frogzoo> !codecs
[06:57] <HiP_P> back in a sec
[06:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <GameOver69> i have fonts installed as well
[06:57] <GameOver69> and all the codecs Frogzoo
[06:57] <lamego> rus1, you will need to reinstall grub
[06:58] <rus1> lamego: how can I do that?
[06:58] <Frogzoo> GameOver69: well other people have read that page & got it to work...
[06:58] <rus1> lamego: Will I be able to do it with an ubuntu install CD or will I need something else?
[06:58] <lamego> rus1  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:59] <rus1> lamego: great, I'll take a look. Thanks.
[06:59] <Frogzoo> GameOver69: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[06:59] <GameOver69> ok i will try thansk
[06:59] <tritium> jwickard: yes, in fact, you only need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:59] <tritium> you don't need the full kernel source
[06:59] <Flawless> Hi all - I'm having a real problem with dead keys on my keyboard. Even though I don't use "nodeadkeys", and have double-checked that it's not in my xorg.conf, I still can't use dead keys!
[07:00] <Flawless> I need dead keys to write danish :-/
[07:00] <Flawless> I'd like any hints or tips
[07:00] <Flawless> This problem is on dapper, i386 as well as amd64
[07:00] <lamego> jwickard, what are you trying to build ?
[07:01] <Frogzoo> GameOver69: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Breezy   at the bottom
[07:01] <jwickard> tritium: actually the config file said basically it appears only the headers are installed, we need the full source tree
[07:01] <Rambo3> Flawless: is it locales issue?
[07:01] <jwickard> lamego: the alsa 1.0.11 drivers
[07:01] <Flawless> Rambo3: I think not. I use en_DK.ISO-8859-1
[07:01] <GameOver69> Frogzoo, thanks
[07:01] <HiP_P> yup the only thing it brings up is two PS/2 mice nothing about checking other places
[07:01] <lamego> locales dont mess with keyboard interpretation
[07:02] <jwickard> lamego: my sound card won't work under 1.0.10
[07:02] <lamego> ok :|
[07:02] <Frogzoo> Flawless: tried kb prefs?
[07:02] <tritium> jwickard: that doesn't make sense, though.  You only need headers to compile alsa modules
[07:02] <tritium> or any modules for that matter
[07:02] <waikitz> did anyone notice that if you press ctrl key when u choose files in totem,the totem program hangs
[07:02] <Flawless> Frogzoo: where? kcontrol? yes - didn't work
[07:02] <HiP_P> back in a bit
[07:02] <Flawless> Frogzoo: strangely, though, it works on the ttys?
[07:02] <Frogzoo> Flawless: this is in kde? or gnome?
[07:02] <Flawless> Frogzoo: s/?/!/
[07:02] <bina> is there any way I can reinstall a package (GTK) to get all of the orignal files, but without having to uninstall all of the packages that depend on it?
[07:03] <Flawless> Frogzoo: all of X - but I use kubuntu, so KDE
[07:03] <tritium> bina: apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[07:03] <ompaul> HiP_P, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the mouse value perhaps
[07:03] <bina> tritium: thanks
[07:03] <Timas> I asked this earlier but had to leave for dinner so my scrollback ate any possible answer I got..
[07:03] <tritium> bina: you'll have to use sudo, of coursse
[07:03] <tritium> course
[07:03] <Timas> I'm having trouble getting the -25 kernel working with my system, at boot it fails to mount/find any of my drives
[07:03] <bina> tritium: yeah.  thanks
[07:03] <patrick_king> is there any good infa red utils
[07:04] <Flawless> Frogzoo: any idea? :)
[07:04] <Frogzoo> Flawless: not strange - the linux kernel does keymappings, then X does it's own mapping on top of that - not sure how you set kb layout in kde, but there must be something
[07:04] <jwickard> tritium: I can PM you the output without the source tree so you can see the message if you'd like
[07:04] <Flawless> Frogzoo: I've tried xinit, with just "xterm" in .xinitrc, meaning that no programs that mess with the keyboard are started
[07:04] <IRCFrEAK> how do i enable "multiverse repository"
[07:04] <dr_willis> !multiverse
[07:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:04] <tritium> jwickard: can't right now.  I'm leaving for a bit.
[07:04] <Flawless> Frogzoo: then, I used a config that worked 100% in debian, and which should work according to "every site on the internet"
[07:05] <Frogzoo> Flawless: X messes with kb settings
[07:05] <Flawless> Frogzoo: I get local letters just fine, but no dead keys
[07:05] <symio> hello world!
[07:05] <Flawless> Frogzoo: these are the X settings that worked on debian - does X mess with them in another way on (k)ubuntu? :)
[07:05] <rixxon> is there any opposite to the 'sort' command?
[07:05] <rixxon> (to randomize the contents of a file)
[07:05] <patrick_king> !infared
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about infared
[07:05] <Flawless> !iso8859-1
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about iso8859-1
[07:05] <rixxon> patrick_king: infrared?
[07:05] <lamego> rixxon, I believe you need to script it
[07:05] <Flawless> !iso-8859-1
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about iso-8859-1
[07:06] <boricua> have a very strange problem with cups and dapper  often the printer on its own prints a test page  access log and error log show nothing i just nothice what it appears when i looked at jobs a test page printed localhost - - [24/Jun/2006:13:02:07 -0400]  "GET /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 0 - -
[07:06] <boricua> localhost - - [24/Jun/2006:13:02:09 -0400]  "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 438 Get-Jobs successful-ok  is this normal?  i am just guessing but last night it was like 20 test page that printed i am assuming during cron job
[07:06] <Frogzoo> !fishing
[07:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:06] <Flawless> Frogzoo: sorry :)
[07:06] <patrick_king> !infrared
[07:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about infrared
[07:06] <rixxon> patrick_king: sudo apt-get install ircp
[07:06] <rixxon> patrick_king: if you want to send files over ir...
[07:06] <Timas> Anyone? boot mounting issues?
[07:06] <boricua> btw  i did change logging to debug
[07:06] <patrick_king> arh thats the ticket cheers
[07:06] <stefg> Timas: OH YES!
[07:07] <Timas> stefg: As in, Timas I can totally help you! or yeah, help me quick!
[07:07] <rixxon> patrick_king: to see ir devices, cat /proc/net/irda/discovery
[07:07] <patrick_king> ok i will give it a go
[07:08] <Timas> stefg: because, I'm having issues with any of the kernel versions after -19 mounting my root drive.. I'd be much obliged to anyone who has a solution
[07:08] <rixxon> patrick_king: im working on a gui for those two tasks; but it's not yet released ( http://tinypic.com/14tbq8h )
[07:08] <stefg> Timas, I've already tracked down my trouble to being a kernel issue with kernels after 2-20
[07:08] <q_a_z_steve> question for today: Why after installing breezy on my slave drive does everything run slow in "My Computer" on the Master? It's detecting the drives. I thought windows was in the dark completely about that!
[07:08] <patrick_king> rixxon: is it any good
[07:08] <LoneWlf> how do I make apt forget about a debian package I tried to make it install with dpkg -i...?
[07:09] <Lynoure> q_a_z_steve: Why are you installing Breezy, btw?
[07:09] <stefg> Timas: try disconnecting your CD/DVD-Drive, test-boot and report back...
[07:09] <rixxon> patrick_king: uh, it's very simple.. it works, so i guess :P
[07:09] <zhangsen> has anybody met the problem that $MAILPATH expands unnormally?
[07:09] <patrick_king> ok i will have to give that a try aswell
[07:09] <q_a_z_steve> It's the CD I dl'ed days before the release of Dapper, and I want to upgrade for practice.
[07:09] <Timas> stefg: It's a whole different controler..
[07:09] <Timas> stefg: But I guess module/driver interference might do that.. hm
[07:09] <zhangsen> according to the bash manual, $_ in $MAILPATH's messages should expand to the mailfile name
[07:09] <kijun> Frogzoo: it doesn't work on my computer
[07:10] <kijun> Frogzoo:  should I can pre-up first?
[07:10] <q_a_z_steve> I have a /windows part on the drive and I think I made it logical, is that my fatal issue?
[07:10] <zhangsen> but in fact on my ubuntu, $_ only expand to the last bash command's last argument
[07:10] <patrick_king> rixxon:  cat /proc/net/irda/discovery it doesnt work it just says /proc/net/irda/discovery: No such file or directory
[07:10] <q_a_z_steve> i.e. it has to detect the prim to find the log that it can use?
[07:10] <stefg> Timas: In my case the kernel is stupidly waiting for a medium in my optical drive and only timing out after 20 secs... (2.6.15-35-k7, but startet with -21)
[07:10] <bina> Hi, im getting this error when I try to compile inkscape. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16376 Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing it?
[07:10] <HiP_P> thanks again ompaul
[07:10] <mrdvd_buntu> how can i write arabic in ubuntu plz...?
[07:11] <stefg> *(2.6.15-25-k7, but startet with -21)*
[07:11] <ompaul> HiP_P, I take it it is running for you now?
[07:11] <q_a_z_steve> here's my part table /boot 30MB , swap 768MB , /windows 35G, / 15G , /home max
[07:11] <ompaul> mrdvd_buntu, system preferences keyboard
[07:11] <Timas> stefg: It's timing out on trying to find my root drive, after a few second it comes with a 'Waiting for root'
[07:11] <q_a_z_steve> which do I want pri vs log?
[07:11] <mrdvd_buntu> many thanks
[07:11] <HiP_P> ompaul,ummm we'll see
[07:12] <ompaul> mrdvd_buntu, enjoy it
[07:12] <kijun> Frogzoo:  which package should I get?
[07:12] <Frogzoo> kijun: describe your network hardware
[07:13] <Timas> stefg: lol
[07:13] <GameOver69> Frogzoo, nothing ont hose pages helped me with the yahoo problem... i have installed it properly and have installed the c odecs.... and mplayer plugin for firefo
[07:13] <kijun> Frogzoo:  would you please tell me the command to see the informaion that you need to know?
[07:14] <patrick_king> !ircp
[07:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about ircp
[07:14] <patrick_king> !mp3
[07:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:14] <Timas> stefg: So, disconnect the DVD drive, which is connected to a different controller, but might be adressed wrong.. Stef, would disabling it in the BIOS not be enough?
[07:14] <mrdvd_buntu> there are shortcut for keyboard??
[07:14] <Frogzoo> kijun: describe the physical connections between your pc & the net
[07:14] <stefg> Timas: give it a try... I'm just guessing...
[07:15] <kijun> Frogzoo:  wired connection with rt2500
[07:15] <Lynoure> stefg: I'm almost weeping over bugs in visor module, myself :/
[07:15] <kijun> Frogzoo:  I am using Averatec laptop computer
[07:15] <mrdvd_buntu> when i play vedio os ask me plugin >>> wat is???
[07:16] <q_a_z_steve> which do I want pri vs log?
[07:16] <rus1> Question, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:16] <rus1> what is the difference between the part "This section explains how to rescue GRUB (the GRand Unified Boot loader), using the Ubuntu install CD ROM." and the "Troubleshooting" section?
[07:16] <loststar4545> is it safe to remove  build essentials
[07:16] <q_a_z_steve> which do I want as primary partitions versus logical?
[07:16] <Ademan> anyone know of a good smtp server for linux?
[07:16] <mrdvd_buntu> when i play vedio os ask me plugin ....... wat is???
[07:17] <uniq> loststar4545: yes, build-essential is a meta-package.
[07:17] <stefg> Ok, so this is a petition to rename this release to 'Disappointing Drake' :-)
[07:17] <q_a_z_steve> loststar4545: if you don't want to "make" anything.
[07:18] <kijun> Frogzoo:  my network card is "Ralink RT2500 802.11"  Is this enough info for you?
[07:18] <uniq> stefg: why?
[07:18] <Ademan> stefg: complaints?
[07:18] <stefg> 6 weeks over time to polish it, and just being not readfy for prime time
[07:19] <mooreand13213> im trying to install the package kubuntu-desktop, but i keep getting an error, can someone help?
[07:19] <Lynoure> stefg: Maybe you can do something to improve it?
[07:19] <Deanodriver> hi all
[07:19] <Ademan> i don't know what you're talking about polish, it was stable and useful back in the beta, what WASNT working at dappers release?
[07:20] <stefg> ... writing bug-reports...diagnosing...spending time to find out what's wrong and sharing info....
[07:20] <Lynoure> Ademan: synching palm pdas worked badly then and got worse soon after release...
[07:20] <Deanodriver> can you install ubuntu onto a laptop by putting it's hdd into another machine and putting a basic install on it, and then apt-getting the rest?
[07:20] <stefg> that's what i can do
[07:20] <Deanodriver> i'm thinking about getting a cheap laptop with no cdrom drive, and which doesn't boot off usb
[07:20] <Deanodriver> but i'd want to put dapper on it :)
[07:20] <Ademan> stefg: you were unable to write a bug report?
[07:20] <Lynoure> Ademan: But I wasn't expecting eveeryything to be perfect, jsut sad it was a part that was so much needed by me.
[07:20] <stefg> I did
[07:20] <kebe> somebody can help with compiz ?
[07:20] <Ademan> Lynoure: well thats a legitimate problem...
[07:21] <KenSentMe> !compiz
[07:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <Frogzoo> kijun: wtf is a ralink ...?
[07:21] <uniq> deanodriver: boot from the network, PXE.
[07:21] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo: it's a chipset for wireless devices
[07:21] <Kaja> Deanodriver, I think it should be possible if the computers are not very different from each other (like ppc vs i386).
[07:21] <Deanodriver> so i'd put the install files on another machine and boot off the network?>
[07:21] <Deanodriver> the computers would be both x86
[07:22] <uniq> frogzoo: wireless, driver is named rt2500.
[07:22] <mooreand13213> anyone? im getting errors about unmet dependencies when installing kubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <Deanodriver> the desktop, my xp2500+, the laptop i'm thinking about getting, dell c400, p3 866
[07:22] <uniq> mooreand13213: can you paste it to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com please?
[07:22] <Ademan> Deanodriver: i'm so weary of laptops and linux... lol... it took ungodly amounts of work to try and make breezy work on this laptop, never happened, eventually i just did dapper beta and everything worked
[07:22] <Deanodriver> i know a friend did it for another friend's laptop, but that was gentoo
[07:22] <q_a_z_steve> in my initial install, which of my partitions should be primary and which should be logical, please? I have /boot 30MB , swap 768MB , /windows 35G, / 15G , /home max .
[07:22] <kijun> Frogzoo:  I think so
[07:23] <Lynoure> Ademan: I wonder whether it will eventually make me a newbie kernel hacker. I know PDAs are not so trendy anymore, so it might not be a problem for more than a handful. Meanwhile I just work around it by backing up to SD
[07:23] <mooreand13213> uniq: just a min
[07:23] <rus1> Lynoure: Mind adding real support for Pocket PCs while you're at it?
[07:24] <Deanodriver> time to look at the wiki and read about network booting, i guess :)
[07:24] <david__> how do i play video?
[07:24] <Lynoure> rus1: heh :) I've never done more than looked at kernel stuff, so far.
[07:24] <david__> movie player won't [lay any, and kaffein plays it but no sound
[07:24] <Deanodriver> david__, what type of video?
[07:25] <david__> mpg
[07:25] <Deanodriver> um
[07:25] <Deanodriver> would that need any restricted codecs installed?
[07:25] <Deanodriver> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[07:25] <Deanodriver> i think
[07:25] <Deanodriver> :)
[07:26] <david__> i installed all the codecs i could find in the synaptic package manager
[07:26] <Deanodriver> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:26] <Deanodriver> better still :)
[07:26] <Deanodriver> hmm
[07:26] <Ranth> I'm trying to set up a network between a Kubuntu and a Xubuntu machine, So far I have gotten zroconf on both machines, On Kubuntu using Konqueror I can see the Xubuntu computer (but none of the files inside it) but I dont know what to do to see the Kubuntu one from the xubuntu computer nor do I know how to share files off of xubuntu
[07:27] <Ranth> Basically, how do you view a network in thunar?
[07:27] <richee> ubuntu is beginning to suck
[07:27] <stefg> Ranth: you can't ... install xffm4
[07:27] <OMGLAZERS> Would anyone mind telling me what kind of program I can use similar to Daemon tools to mount a .cue/.bin as a drive or can Linux mount it on it's own?
[07:27] <richee> it's slow and consumes lotsa cpu cycles
[07:27] <rajk> hey all. i just recompiled my kernel and ive lost sound. any ideas? when i try "./alsa-utils restart
[07:27] <rajk> " i get an error message saying "Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing"
[07:27] <stefg> Ranth: this will give you xfsamba4
[07:28] <richee> gnome power manager doesn't work properly
[07:28] <Ranth> oooh, thanks stefg
[07:28] <bina> does anyone know what would cause http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16376 that error when compiling inkscape.  It seems to happen any time i try to compile something that uses GTK
[07:29] <mooreand13213> uniq: did u get my msg?
[07:29] <rajk> also how do i find out what sound chipset my board uses? (sort of an lspci for onboard stuff?)
[07:30] <stefg> lspci will also list the onboard stuff
[07:30] <rajk> cheers stefg
[07:30] <mik__> yeah yeah
[07:31] <OMGLAZERS> Would anyone mind telling me what kind of program I can use similar to Daemon tools to mount a .cue/.bin as a drive or can Linux mount it on it's own?
[07:31] <HiP_P> ompaul, nop
[07:31] <elate> OMGLAZERS: I used the bin2iso program and then mounted the resulting file
[07:31] <HartNot> Is there an equivalent for PeerGuardian for Linux?
[07:31] <Ademan> can anyone reccomend a smtp server for linux?
[07:31] <OMGLAZERS> elate: Cool, ill find a bin2iso program.. how would I mount the iso though?
[07:31] <Kyral> Ademan: Postfix, Courier.....
[07:32] <Kyral> Sendmail....
[07:32] <HiP_P> yup peergaurdian for linux
[07:32] <uniq> mooreand13213: no? did you paste it to kubuntu.pastebin.com ?
[07:32] <HiP_P> you can get at their site
[07:32] <mooreand13213> uniq: i kept getting a time out error
[07:32] <mooreand13213> uniq: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16377
[07:32] <ompaul> HiP_P, whats that?
[07:32] <Lynoure> Ademan: exim is lovely, imo
[07:33] <elate> OMGLAZERS: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_095.html
[07:33] <uniq> mooreand13213: ah.. ok. checking now.
[07:33] <stefg> OMGLAZERS: Since the linux community isn't that much engaged in warez, there's no real equivalent.... I found something similar a while ago, tested it and kicked it then... mountin proper ISO's is a builtin feature, but copy-protected stuff is just not linux's business
[07:33] <skavenge> any straightforward method of disabling touchpad clicking with an alps touchpad in dapper?
[07:33] <mooreand13213> uniq: thanx
[07:33] <HiP_P> its still not work the seruse
[07:33] <HiP_P> *working
[07:33] <ompaul> Ademan, the easiest one to use is postfix
[07:33] <OMGLAZERS> stefg: It's not actually warez. I have an online backup storage and I usually put them into iso or bin/cue format for when my data needs to get moved
[07:34] <OMGLAZERS> elate: Thanks
[07:34] <ompaul> HiP_P, is the hardware beyond redemption
[07:34] <kijun> how to make automatic dsl connection without doing 'pppoeconf' all the time?  is there anyone can help me?
[07:35] <uniq> mooreand13213: hmm.. do you have the main archive in your sources.list setup?
[07:35] <Ademan> which do you think is the most wideley used smtp server?
[07:35] <HiP_P> did the change the conf then ctrl+alt+backspace then changed it to /dev/ttyS1
[07:35] <mooreand13213> uniq: i do believe
[07:35] <Shyne> can anyone point me to a list of the default repositories - i accidentally edited the first one and need to revert it
[07:36] <someothernick> HartNot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192559&highlight=pg <-- here is another alternative to PG
[07:36] <Ademan> i guess it comes down to sendmail vs postfix... any arguements for one or the other?
[07:36] <uniq> mooreand13213: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the paste-page too?
[07:36] <Lynoure> Ademan: postfix has a nicer track record.
[07:36] <uniq> ademan: postfix. because it's secure.
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> kijun: My dsl autoconnects
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Ademan: they are both good but postfix is alot easier to set up IMHO
[07:37] <Ranth> stefg: So I started up the program, now how do I share files?
[07:37] <kijun> Jack_Sparrow:  Mine doesn't... I don't know what should I do
[07:37] <Ademan> alright cool, postfix it is then, and it it ever becomes a big problem, i can always switch
[07:37] <mooreand13213> uniq: just a minute
[07:37] <stefg> OMGLAZERS, maybe http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ is of any use
[07:37] <Ademan> WOW, a GUI for config!
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Ademan: is that a mail program
[07:37] <codecaine> hey with the new update with the new kernel for ubuntu does it seem like your grapics its not like it suppose to be like mplayer can't even show movies right now
[07:38] <Ademan> Jack_Sparrow: postfix? its a smtp server
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> AH thanks
[07:38] <skavenge> right now i'm having to run 'modprobe -r bcm43xx' then 'modprobe ndiswrapper' then ejecting the wireless nic and reinserting to get it to work on bootup, can i solve this so it will work automatically? I know i can add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules but how to keep bcm43xx from loading everytime? I want to disable it loading permanently
[07:38] <Chetic> My monitor is a Belinea 103025 and I can NOT find the horizontal sync or vertical refresh rate for it... I want to use other resolutions than 1024x768 :\
[07:38] <loststar4545> does everything in the /tmp folder get deleted when i restart my pc
[07:39] <Shyne> ah np - it didnt save until i closed the window so i know what it was
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[07:39] <Ademan> gnomefreak, Lynoure, and uniq, ompaul: with postfix is it possible to change the "Mail name" later on?
[07:39] <mooreand13213> uniq: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16379
[07:39] <codecaine> :(
[07:39] <ompaul> Ademan, define mail name
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Ademan: i think so
[07:39] <yuheng108>  why is there no sound after I compile the newest kernel?
[07:39] <Ademan> user@mailname
[07:39] <Chetic> How do you know your monitors vertical sync and horizontal refresh rate?
[07:39] <mrdvd_buntu> when i play vedio os ask me plugins
[07:39] <HiP_P> ompaul thanks for trying
[07:40] <ompaul> Ademan, you can alias stuff and do all sorts of other stuff
[07:40] <codecaine> the new kernel is better alot of stuff not working right yuheng108
[07:40] <Ranth> stefg: So I started up the program, now how do I share files?
[07:40] <Mohsin> hi i got some problem with my ubantu anyone to help me
[07:40] <Mohsin> hi i got some problem with my ubantu anyone to help me
[07:40] <mrdvd_buntu> when i play vedio os ask me plugins ???
[07:40] <Ademan> alright, i'll give it a temporary value then
[07:40] <lamego> Mohsin, ask and dont repeat
[07:40] <ompaul> !anyone
[07:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:40] <yuheng108> why is that? codecaine
[07:40] <Lynoure> Ademan: I don't personally use postfix, I like exim too much. :)
[07:40] <ompaul> Mohsin, please check out what ubotu said
[07:40] <codecaine> duno  have grapics problems
[07:41] <yuheng108> but I heard those newer kernels suppose to be better
[07:41] <asathoor> hi
[07:41] <codecaine> soemtimes
[07:41] <ompaul> what is the utility that tells you what key was pressed in X
[07:42] <lamego> codecaine, what is your graphics card ?
[07:42] <codecaine> nvidia
[07:42] <ompaul> xev thats what it is
[07:42] <Ranth> So, how do you share files using xfsamba4? Does anyone know?
[07:42] <stefg> !tell Ranth about samba
[07:42] <lamego> you have installed the driver using apt ?
[07:43] <uniq> ademan: with postfix you can do much about everything.
[07:43] <codecaine> using sympatic
[07:43] <asathoor> ranth >> just rightclick at chosse share
[07:43] <codecaine> I still have acelleration and stuff it just buggy
[07:43] <VCF> Hi, where can I find a really good explanation, tutorial on how to set up ubuntu so it plays MP3 and yes I know this is a FAQ  but I really can't find a tutorial that explains it to a nube like myself, or at least point me in the right direction, thx
[07:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lamego: how do I find out which video driver is installed
[07:43] <mooreand13213> uniq:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16379
[07:44] <Ranth> asathoor: THere is no share command >_<
[07:44] <lamego> Jack_Sparrow, you look into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:44] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[07:44] <codecaine> Jack_Sparrow in your xorg.conf
[07:44] <yuheng108> can anyone tell me how to fix my sound with the newest kernel?
[07:44] <Archville> Hi.
[07:44] <patrick_king> hello i just installed irda-utils in synaptic how do i run it
[07:45] <mrdvd_buntu> when i play vedio os ask me plugins??
[07:45] <yuheng108> I mean the sound is working fine right now, but right after I use the newest self-compile kernel, there is no sound, help?
[07:45] <Rambo3> is it lirc irda.utils ?
[07:45] <mooreand13213> u still there uniq?
[07:45] <asathoor> yuheng108 >> is your soundcart alsa compatible?
[07:45] <VCF> No answer
[07:46] <Lynoure> yuheng108: did you remember to add all the same sound related stuff to your kernel as you have now (or at least the ones you need)?
[07:46] <codecaine> maybe I should try to install nvidia drivers by source
[07:46] <yuheng108> asathoor, I think so, it's the intel hd sound card
[07:46] <patrick_king> rambo: it doesn work
[07:47] <asathoor> yuheng108 >> do u get an error message?
[07:47] <Chetic> How do you know your monitors vertical sync and horizontal refresh rate?
[07:47] <yuheng108> Lynoure, I was told by someone, he gave me the exact instruction, and he claim that it work on his computer
[07:47] <uniq> mooreand13213: yes, little bit busy.
[07:47] <yuheng108> asathoor, no error message, just no sound
[07:48] <madis> i used google for refresh rates
[07:48] <mooreand13213> uniq: thats cool
[07:48] <Rambo3> patrick_king: you ll have to configure it did you check irda-utils homepage.
[07:48] <patrick_king> rambo: no i havent do you have a link plz
[07:49] <Jessehk> I'm having a problem with apt-get: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:49] <Jessehk>   libwnck18: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[07:49] <Jessehk> E: Broken packages
[07:49] <Rambo3> patrick_king: is it laptop irda ?
[07:49] <uniq> mooreand13213: looking goood. 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' doesn't work for you?
[07:49] <Rambo3> what laptop are you using ?
[07:49] <VCF> Hi, where can I find a really good explanation, tutorial on how to set up ubuntu so it plays MP3 and yes I know this is a FAQ  but I really can't find a tutorial that explains it to a nube like myself, or at least point me in the right direction, thx
[07:49] <Jessehk> How can I downgrade libpango?
[07:49] <mooreand13213> uniq: nope
[07:49] <lamego> !!mp3
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about !mp3
[07:49] <lamego> !mp3
[07:49] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:49] <patrick_king> rambo: its a builtin irda and its in a dell latitude c400
[07:49] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[07:49] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:50] <Lynoure> yuheng108: you can also peek in the configuration file of the existing kernel.
[07:50] <VCF> Hey, thanks
[07:50] <stefg> VCF: easyubuntu is your friend :-)
[07:50] <sesstreets> Ok why when my stystem goes into screensaver can I not get back to the desktop?
[07:50] <rhalff> hi, am I blind, or is usb scanner support not compiled as a module for the current kernel ?
[07:50] <yuheng108> Lynoure, how do you find that???
[07:50] <david__> i installed w32codecs and I still can't play video, can someone help my lost soul?
[07:51] <sesstreets> I leave the computer, the screen saver goes on and i move the mouse.
[07:51] <sesstreets> and nothing happens
[07:51] <sesstreets> how come?
[07:51] <mooreand13213> uniq: i get the error about broken packages and missing dependencies or something
[07:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> david__: what video?
[07:51] <david__> mpg
[07:51] <asathoor> sesstreets >> just move the mouse
[07:51] <Rambo3> patrick_king: http://irda.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html
[07:51] <Lynoure> yuheng108: /boot/ and there config<something that matches your current kernel>
[07:51] <sesstreets> doesnt work
[07:51] <sesstreets> it kinda freezes
[07:51] <sesstreets> same thing when the monitors power goes off
[07:51] <Dial_tone> david__: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[07:52] <Rambo3> patrick_king: you can allso checj linux on laptops homepage fr more info
[07:52] <codecaine> how do I change the color of my phone in terminal?
[07:52] <mooreand13213> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[07:52] <mooreand13213> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[07:52] <mooreand13213> that package should be filed.
[07:52] <mooreand13213> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:52] <mooreand13213>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[07:52] <HartNot> what's a good cd burning package for gnome?
[07:52] <mooreand13213> E: Broken packages
[07:52] <yuheng108> Lynoure, how do you send private messages?
[07:52] <Lynoure> yuheng108: Very very often in situations like that, some option has forgotten unselected.
[07:52] <david__> thanks ill check it out
[07:52] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> david__: do a search for the essentials for the coffeine player , all u have to is download , extract to the right directory ,then coffeine should be able to play almost everything
[07:52] <Lynoure> yuheng108: /msg nickname
[07:52] <sesstreets> wtf is this
[07:52] <sesstreets> Ubuntu cant use screensavers
[07:52] <sesstreets> ?
[07:52] <codecaine> yes it can sesstreets
[07:53] <sesstreets> well apparently not on my computer...
[07:53] <sesstreets> what did i do?
[07:53] <codecaine> undre system and preferences sesstreets
[07:53] <HLM> HartNot..............GnomeBaker is good
[07:53] <sesstreets> dude I did that
[07:53] <sesstreets> It goes into screensaver
[07:53] <sesstreets> I move the mouse
[07:53] <sesstreets> The screensaver pauses and th e desktop never shows up
[07:53] <Rambo3> patrick_king: http://www.dipalo.com/c400.html from linux on laptops check irda section
[07:53] <codecaine> shoulds like a grapics card problem
[07:53] <Lynoure> yuheng108: But don't message me unless it's something that needs to be provate. I'm lounging around, relaxing and watching a video on the side :)
[07:54] <Chetic> How do you know your monitors vertical sync and horizontal refresh rate?
[07:54] <sesstreets> anybody?
[07:54] <yuheng108> Lynoure, oo, I thought it would be easier to see since the screen is fill with different messages
[07:54] <codecaine> most monitor refresh rates is 60 hrz
[07:54] <stefg> BTW... w32codecs doesn't affect totem-gstreamer. If you want to make use of w32codecs apt-get totem-xine
[07:54] <Raito> I used the guide on wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16380
[07:54] <sesstreets> seriously i have to leave soon does anybody know a reason for this
[07:55] <compengi> how can i make gaim to not connect on startup
[07:55] <mooreand13213> chetic: i can get the refresh rate on my monitor by going to the menu on the monitor itself (the buttons on the front)
[07:55] <codecaine> rebooting to windows :/ ill ssh this
[07:55] <codecaine> brb
[07:55] <sesstreets> just say I dont know
[07:55] <sesstreets> and ill go away
[07:55] <rhalff> anyone uses a usb scanner ?
[07:56] <madis> i do
[07:56] <uter>  hi i have a problem with my samba. I tried to get accses to my win xp computer (plz dont hurt me)
[07:56] <skavenge> Will adding 'blacklist bcm43xx' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist prevent it from loading on boot so the ndiswrapper driver will take over?
[07:56] <Rambo3> there where some bugs on gnome screen saver check out ubuntu forums, i dont know if it was fixed since flight
[07:56] <sesstreets> Is it so hard to answer a question?
[07:56] <uter> i tried smbclient -N -L compi
[07:56] <rhalff> madis, you have a scanner module somewhere ? I can't find anything related to scanning in the kernel.
[07:56] <madis> i have mustek 1200 ub plus scanner
[07:56] <Lynoure> yuheng108: I have a highlight on messages that mention my name. But I meant that the channel can be quicker and better to answer some questions as I don't always even look at this screen
[07:56] <uter> i get this answer Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_OK
[07:56] <rhalff> madis, and lsmod shows a 'scanner' module ?
[07:57] <yuheng108> Lynoure, oo, icic, thanks
[07:57] <lug22> holas
[07:57] <lug22> necesito ayuda para instalar linux garux en mi palm tingsten E
[07:58] <mooreand13213> anyone know what would cause an error about unmet dependencies and broken packages when installing kubuntu-desktop?
[07:58] <dipnlik> lug22: linux on a T|E ?
[07:58] <compengi> how can i make gaim to not connect on startup
[07:58] <dipnlik> lug22: or sync the T|E with your ubuntu pc?
[07:59] <HiP_P> cheers again ompaul..... bye
[08:00] <madis> no it doesn't show
[08:00] <uter> are here any samba - pro's here ? i have a problem i get this error when i try to accses to my win Xp - Computer : Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_OK smbclient
[08:01] <mooreand13213> what would cause an error about unmet dependencies and broken packages when installing kubuntu-desktop?
[08:01] <paracelx> Can someone help me with xubuntu, i cant get it to install. It says a acpi errror at first and I can get aroudnt hat with noacpi added to it, but it still frezes up when loading saying tty job control turned off
[08:01] <stefg> mooreand13213: a messed /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:02] <mooreand13213> stefg: i just had uniq check it and she said it was fine
[08:02] <timas> New question! Anyone know how I might get the kernel-headers for the -19 version?
[08:02] <boricua> i am trying to clear the job.cache file with sudo cat/dev/null > job.cache but i wat permission denied  ?
[08:02] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to change my default image view to the gthumb image viewer?
[08:02] <stefg> mooreand13213: maybe getting a new one at easysource helps?
[08:02] <stefg> !easysource
[08:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:02] <sword> hey guys
[08:03] <mooreand13213> stefg: ill try that
[08:03] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to change my default image viewer to the gthumb image viewer?
[08:03] <sword> i'm having trouble starting xorg after installing the latest nvidia drivers
[08:03] <Cntryboy> I hate typos
[08:03] <sword> the latest ones with breezy
[08:04] <abhi> there is ubuntu dvd at http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/; is that official? But in ubuntu site only cd image is available
[08:04] <rhalff> madis, ok, something must have changed then, there used to be a scanner module in the kernel, I hope my scanner support wasn't ditched :)
[08:04] <Chetic> How come I can only choose 43 or 47 Hertz' refresh rate when I pick resolutions above 1024x768?
[08:05] <uniq> mooreand13213: try 'sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins' if it gives an error, please paste it to the paste page.
[08:05] <sword> i startx  , it goes to the nvidia logo , then a generic X screen, then xorg shuts down back to the terminal
[08:05] <Spawn> mm anyone know what might have happened to my Kmenu, i went away for a bit and i have come back when i clicked on my kmenu to load up a program i get "Malformed URL system:/" and now none of the icons appear in there yet they are still there when i check with kmenueditor
[08:05] <compengi> chetic maybe because your monitor doesn't supports this rate on hight resolution
[08:06] <stefg> sword: you are aware that u need nvidia-_legacy_ for some older cards?
[08:06] <sword> my card is an nvidia geforce fx 5600
[08:06] <sword> stefg: yeah
[08:06] <Chetic> compengi: it does, without any doubt whatsoever.. I've used it for years
[08:06] <sword> but my card isnt old
[08:06] <sword> well...relatively :)
[08:07] <compengi> chetic maybe the driver is old
[08:07] <Chetic> compengi: same with 1024x768, it can do more than 60Hz but that's all I can choose.. well that and 43
[08:07] <rhalff> madis, you have a /dev/scanner ?
[08:07] <stefg> sword: I'd try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (make sure to select nvidia, not nv) first
[08:07] <Chetic> compengi: I just downloaded and installed the driver! if you mean the graphics driver
[08:07] <sword> that's what i did
[08:07] <DanielC> How can I make Evolution display emails as plain text? I hate all these stupid colours and tiny fonts that some people put on emails they send me.
[08:07] <sword> stefg: what should i have disabled again...just to make sure
[08:07] <compengi> yes
[08:07] <skavenge> after watching a few music videos the colors on all video file types wash out and are hard to see, i can fix with a reset but is there another way?
[08:07] <sword> like glx and what else?
[08:07] <mooreand13213> uniq: just a minute, just rebuilt my sources.list and am updating
[08:07] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[08:07] <yuheng108> I just got a webcam that only come with drivers for windows, how can I get it to work for windows xp?
[08:08] <yuheng108> I mean linux
[08:08] <sword> also...should i have the frame buffer enabled
[08:08] <yuheng108> I just got a webcam that only come with drivers for windows, how can I get it to work for linux?
[08:08] <Cntryboy> wow what lag
[08:08] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to change my default image viewer to the gthumb image viewer?
[08:08] <stefg> sword: OOOmphhh... can't remember... the nvidia-site is your friend (think it's stock DRI and OpenGL, but not sure)
[08:08] <sword> k
[08:08] <Chetic> Anybody know why I can only choose disgustingly low refresh rates at higher resolutions?
[08:09] <Fraeon> define disgustingly low
[08:09] <lug22> private diplink
[08:09] <stefg> Chetic: 4MB of vram just isn't enough :-)
[08:09] <Chetic> stefg: ..............................
[08:09] <Cntryboy> Chetic: Probably because your video card doesn't support higher refresh rates at higher resolutions.
[08:10] <lug22> yes tungsten E diplink
[08:10] <Chetic> Cntryboy: I already know it supports what I want, I've been using it for years (1280x1024 at 60Hz)
[08:10] <stefg> Chetic: what make and model?
[08:10] <Fraeon> Some would call 60hz disgustingly low
[08:10] <yuheng108> I just got a webcam that only come with drivers for windows, how can I get it to work for linux?
[08:10] <mooreand13213> uniq:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16382
[08:10] <Cntryboy> Chetic: check in your xorg.conf file and see what list for resolution and refresh rates
[08:11] <wastrel> coolio
[08:11] <Cntryboy> Chetic: also have you updated your drivers for video card?
[08:11] <Chetic> The monitor is a Belinea 103025
[08:11] <Chetic> yes Cntryboy I installed them like half an hour ago right after downloading them..
[08:11] <dipnlik> lug22: to sync the T|E to ubuntu you'll probably need j-pilot
[08:11] <pradeep> is there a .srt subtitle reader in the sources?
[08:11] <uniq> mooreand13213: now try 'sudo apt-get install libpoppler1-qt'
[08:11] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to change my default image viewer to the gthumb image viewer?
[08:11] <Chetic> Cntryboy: The only refresh rate I can find in xorg.conf is set to 60Hz
[08:12] <stefg> Chetic: what _graphics-card_?
[08:12] <uniq> mooreand13213: if it gives an error, paste to the page, as always :)
[08:12] <Chetic> stefg: X800XL
[08:12] <stefg> That is manufactured by???
[08:12] <Chetic> uh ATi?
[08:12] <Chetic> or Sapphire?
[08:12] <stefg> better know your hardware, boy
[08:13] <Chetic> I do but I see no reason to know anything but X800XL :S
[08:13] <Cntryboy> Chectic: you may have to reconfigure your X again and when you come across your refresh rates add some..
[08:13] <finalbeta> I installed MySQL server thru synaptic, now I'm kindoff lost. How would I
[08:13] <sword> stefg: i found a problem
[08:13] <finalbeta> Go about starting services
[08:13] <sword> for some reason the module fb isnt loading properly i assume
[08:13] <Chetic> Cntryboy: seriously, there is only one place where I can find refresh rates and it's set to 60 damn Hertz
[08:13] <sword> so thats why it is acting like that but i don't know how to resolve it
[08:13] <stefg> hmmm, but that shouldn't affect X
[08:13] <yuheng108> I just got a webcam that only come with drivers for windows, how can I get it to work for linux?
[08:13] <Cntryboy> Chectic: I was at first thinking it was your monitor but you said you have been using ur setup for years.. so I dunno unless it's in the xorg.. reconfigure it would be my guess
[08:14] <NthDegree> this is a total guess but:  rc-update add default mysql or something like that
[08:14] <sword> hmm weird
[08:14] <Chetic> I've already changed xorg.conf... it doesn't help
[08:14] <Cntryboy> Chetic: I know that, but when you reconfigure X you can choose different refresh rates
[08:14] <sword> is there a way I can send you my xorg log via irssi stefg ?
[08:14] <sword> im in a terminal right now
[08:14] <Chetic> I can choose?
[08:14] <stefg> sword: use the pastebin!
[08:14] <Chetic> I used a text editor, Cntryboy
[08:14] <sword> stefg: i can't pastebin
[08:14] <sword> im in a terminal
[08:14] <blue_> hello
[08:15] <stefg> Huh?
[08:15] <sword> im using irssi
[08:15] <sword> using a command prompt
[08:15] <stefg> oh yes, i understand now... no X...
[08:15] <azi`> heya, anyone can check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GPGKeyOnUSBDrive i think there is an error in this doc : export loopdev=$(sudo losetup -f) - this really doesn't work
[08:15] <wastrel> sword:  use #flood
[08:15] <Cntryboy> chetic: I was told you couldn't edit the xorg.conf from txt editor.. who knows.
[08:15] <blue_> any one now how to get permissions .?
[08:16] <^GoKu-^> hello
[08:16] <sword> how can i flood...im switching between terminals wastrel
[08:16] <blue_> hello
[08:16] <Cntryboy> Chetic: have you restarted X after you edited that xorg.conf? If that doesn't work only thing I can guess is reconfigure X
[08:16] <Chetic> Cntryboy: when you say reconfigure X, what do you mean?
[08:16] <wastrel> sword:   /exec -o cat /path/to/filename  (but not in this chan!)
[08:16] <blue_> dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg  ithink..
[08:16] <carlfk> is there a howto describing how to upgrade an existing deb?  ( I want to try xorg 7.1)
[08:16] <sword> thanks wastrel
[08:17] <della> strange problem: metacity doesn't understand keyboard shortcuts when it's normally launched from gdm, then works normally when I do "killall metacity"
[08:17] <Cntryboy> Chetic: I mean by typing sudo dpkg - reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <Centaur5> Should putting "user" under options in fstab make the user that is mounting the device the owner of that folder it is mounted to?
[08:17] <blue_> ya what he said
[08:18] <blue_> hello
[08:18] <mooreand13213> uniq: same error again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16383
[08:18] <g-nome> how to start a python app in command?
[08:18] <Cntryboy> chetic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <uniq> mooreand13213: great we're getting there. this is progress. :)
[08:18] <azi`> g-nome: pythin foo.py
[08:18] <Raito> Does anybody know the ubuntu equivalent of 'kcmshell kcmsambaconf'
[08:18] <mooreand13213> uniq: :)
[08:19] <foolip> When I start rhythmbox, it starts using 100% cpu after a while (top shows 100% and the gnome panel thingy 50% because it's a dual core). when I close rhythmbox, the process keeps on going, doing I don't know what. I tried to run qprof on it to see what it was doing, but it wouldn't start via qprof (a profiler).
[08:19] <ompaul> for F1-F12  xev sees it but xlookupstring does not it gives 0 bytes anyone got an idea on how to make F12 and friends visible?
[08:19] <uniq> mooreand13213: 'sudo apt-get install libpoppler1=0.5.1-0ubuntu7;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[08:20] <stefg> sword, my friend, how comes that you are using kernel 2.6.16? there are no restricted modules packages for thet kernel, so you'll have to build the nvidia modules youself and use module-assistant to install them... you're using the wrong kernel modules, that's your problem
[08:20] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to change my default image viewer to the gthumb image viewer?
[08:21] <blue_> no
[08:21] <ompaul> C-O-L-T,  please do not do -away use /away message that gets read by anyone who uses your name
[08:21] <sysdoc> Has anyone had a problem opening kate or gedit from the command CLi as root, in a fresh Dapper install?
[08:21] <mooreand13213> uniq: i think it worked this time, thanx bunches :-)
[08:21] <uniq> mooreand13213: great :)
[08:21] <blue_> anyone now howto get permissions other than "user groups.."
[08:21] <uniq> blue_: what do you mean?
[08:22] <mooreand13213> uniq: u wouldn't happen to know how to keep all of my menus separated after i get this installed would u?
[08:22] <ompaul> sysdoc, open gedit with gksudo gedit $var
[08:22] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: ok
[08:22] <blue_> I just installed new ubunto amd 64 bit
[08:22] <blue_> cant do updates..
[08:22] <mooreand13213> uniq: like keep gnome apps only in gnome menues and kde apps in kde menus?
[08:22] <uniq> mooreand13213: no, i have no idea.
[08:22] <blue_> need to give myself permissions
[08:22] <Cntryboy> blue_: from what I read 64bit isn't well supported yet
[08:22] <ompaul> C-O-L-T, thanks
[08:22] <mooreand13213> uniq: o well
[08:22] <blue_> its workin
[08:23] <sysdoc> ompaul, Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:23] <sysdoc> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:23] <genius> !qhost
[08:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about qhost
[08:23] <Cntryboy> blue_: if you want to give urself permission use sudo apt-get install
[08:23] <blue_> ok thanks
[08:23] <genius> !ghost
[08:23] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[08:23] <uniq> !sudo > blue_
[08:23] <Centaur5> What option do I have to put under options in /etc/fstab to make a user the owner of the folder that a device is mounted to?
[08:23] <ompaul> sysdoc, your not supposed to be root - you should run that command as an ordinary user and it will give superuser abilities to the program
[08:24] <ompaul> !sudo
[08:24] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:24] <blue_> no denied
[08:24] <sysdoc> ompaul, worked like a charm in breezy. Not really concerned about being root...
[08:24] <blue_> does not work
[08:24] <blue_> umm
[08:24] <uniq> centaur5: user or users. you can read all about it in 'man mount'.
[08:25] <blue_> hold on let me try in tty..
[08:25] <ompaul> sysdoc, it should not have - the refused is your user does not have access to the X session which is owned by someone else
[08:25] <Centaur5> uniq: Oh, well I must have done something wrong with it so I'll double check.
[08:25] <ompaul> beyond-out, do this please /away message not renaming yourself it is just spam in the channel
[08:26] <sysdoc> ompaul, your right, it did work as the user
[08:26] <sysdoc> interesting
[08:26] <ompaul> sysdoc, root does not own the X session therefore access denied
[08:26] <sysdoc> zackly
[08:26] <uniq> centaur5: there is a difference, read 'man mount' to understand it.
[08:26] <blue_> ok it let me install, but still cant get it to install updates from desktop....auto update..?
[08:27] <Iam8up> is there any way to enable some sort of sshd while running on the ubutnu live cd (5.10)?
[08:27] <Chetic> thanks for the help Cntryboy, works now
[08:27] <wastrel> Iam8up:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server should do it.
[08:27] <Iam8up> on the live cd?
[08:27] <ompaul> Iam8up, openssh-server yes
[08:27] <Cntryboy> chetic: no problem
[08:27] <Iam8up> sweeet
[08:27] <wastrel> well i'm not sure about the sudo
[08:28] <wastrel> never run the livecd...
[08:28] <Iam8up> i'll try it w/o first
[08:28] <ompaul> Iam8up, search the wiki for persistance for even more features
[08:28] <uniq> wesselaar: sudo works without password on the livecd.
[08:28] <wastrel> punk rock babby
[08:28] <scud> sudo rocks
[08:28] <xpc> !hi
[08:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about hi
[08:28] <xpc> !hu
[08:28] <jeekl> Could anyone help me with setting up mysql for use with ruby on rails?
[08:28] <Centaur5> uniq: Yeah, I'm reading it.  Thanks for the help.
[08:28] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[08:28] <xpc> !hi
[08:28] <xpc> :D:D
[08:28] <sysdoc> ompaul, that creates some interesting problems then. Navigating as root is necessary since I'm interested in getting my home dir that is on another partition and in Mandriva. Was able to just open what ever doc I wanted from the CLi as root previously in Breezy
[08:28] <blue_> anyway to get into "user groups" from terminal?
[08:29] <Iam8up> wastrel - sudo is required (i think any time you use apt-get you need it..)
[08:29] <wastrel> k
[08:29] <Iam8up> blue_ - /etc/groups
[08:29] <blue_> k
[08:29] <ompaul> sysdoc, no chmod -R username:username $partition and you can read it all
[08:29] <Iam8up> you do need to be root (or open it through sudo)
[08:29] <Cntryboy> anyone know how to change my default image viewer to the gthumb image viewer?
[08:29] <jrib> sysdoc: can't you run 'xhost +' as your user so that anyone can connect to your session?
[08:30] <Aesop> Heya all, having a bit of trouble getting a .avi file to play. I'm pretty sure that the audio is encoded in MKV, and the audio works with VLC, but I don't get any video.
[08:30] <jrib> !default
[08:30] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:30] <sysdoc> ompaul, won't chat change the permissions when I'm in mandrive also?
[08:30] <foolip> Aesop: is the file somewhere for us to test?
[08:30] <Iam8up> blue_ - you can also use the chgrp (if it's on ubuntu, not sure)
[08:30] <blue_> im sorry im a newbie...what is the command in terminal..
[08:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell Aesop about avi
[08:30] <Iam8up> blue_ - the command in terminal..for what?
[08:30] <blue_> ya it is
[08:31] <sysdoc> jrib, sorry not sure I follow that line of thinking
[08:31] <blue_> change permissions
[08:31] <Iam8up> permissions? chmod
[08:31] <sysdoc> jrib, at least not familliar I should say
[08:31] <Dial_tone> why you can't sort firefox bookmarks dammit
[08:31] <ompaul> sysdoc, sorry I did not realise you were dualbooting I thought you had committed to this
[08:31] <Iam8up> Dial_tone - manage book marks?
[08:32] <ompaul> sysdoc, so I guess it is root and mc for you :-) nautilus and root are not a good combination
[08:32] <sysdoc> ompaul, In the process of that at the moment...:)
[08:32] <jrib> sysdoc: run 'xhost +' as your user, you can man xhost for more info because I will admit I don't understand the details.  Then try opening gedit again
[08:32] <Centaur5> uniq: Why isn't there anything in fstab for usb drives?  What tells a usb drive where to mount and who owns it?
[08:32] <Dial_tone> thats just while you edit them. they don't stay that way
[08:32] <sysdoc> jrib, thx dewd
[08:32] <stefg> Centaur5: man pmount
[08:32] <ompaul> sysdoc, I am outa here
[08:32] <sysdoc> ompaul, l8r
[08:33] <sysdoc> have a good one and thx
[08:33] <Centaur5> Thanks stefg
[08:35] <uniq> centaur5: dbus and HAL controls removeable devices and automounting.
[08:36] <uniq> centaur5: if you put them in /etc/fstab they will be ignored by the automounting system.
[08:36] <Cntryboy> jrib: Thanks, I tried that the first time and it didn't work oh well. thx
[08:36] <Aesop> jrib, yeah, none of that helps.
[08:36] <Centaur5> uniq: Yeah, I just found that out.  I think that pmount will the better route since it's a removable pc card hd.
[08:37] <uniq> centaur5: then pmount is the way to go :)
[08:37] <jrib> Aesop: what kind of video codec is it using?
[08:37] <Centaur5> uniq: Thanks for your help, I might be able to figure it out from here.  :)
[08:37] <blue_> ok nothin seems to work!!!!!!!AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHwhat the f___________________________
[08:37] <uniq> centaur5: for the record, only users in the 'plugdev' group are allowed to automount devices.
[08:37] <blue_> just give me root dam it!!!!
[08:37] <uniq> blue_: sudo -s
[08:37] <blue_> im sorry!!
[08:38] <blue_> ya tries that did not work!!
[08:38] <blue_> ok
[08:38] <blue_> ummm
[08:39] <beoba> hi, does ubuntu server edition have a WM included in the base install?
[08:39] <jrib> blue_: what do you mean "did not work", what happens?
[08:39] <Iam8up> uhm..does anyone know the password for "ubuntu" on the live cd?
[08:39] <Cntryboy> Blue_: see thats what I mean it's not very well supported yet, or atleast thats what i've heard
[08:39] <jrib> Iam8up: there isn't any, just leave it blank
[08:39] <blue_> cool
[08:39] <amcq> hi
[08:39] <blue_> ok so
[08:39] <Iam8up> jrib - trying to ssh as ubuntu, and leaving it blank gives me a bad apsswd error
[08:39] <amcq> can anyone help me install xfce on ubuntu?
[08:39] <fishsticks> beoba, no
[08:39] <blue_> im at desktop top right hand corner
[08:39] <jbroome> !xfce
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfce
[08:40] <blue_> update red thing
[08:40] <jbroome> !xubuntu
[08:40] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <beoba> fishsticks: okay great thanks
[08:40] <jrib> Iam8up: oh, ssh might not like blank passwords, maybe create a new user
[08:40] <blue_> click on it nothing happens
[08:40] <amcq> i have tried apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[08:40] <amcq> but it comes back saying osme packages are broken
[08:40] <blue_> once in a while a pass word promp happens
[08:40] <fishsticks> beoba: i do server installs just to keep my WM lean so i only include the packages i like/need
[08:40] <blue_> root or user password does nothing
[08:40] <beoba> fishsticks: yeah i'm considering an openbox machine
[08:40] <blue_> umm
[08:40] <Cntryboy> blue_: after you click on it and it ask for password and you type it in then what happens?
[08:40] <jrib> blue_: try not to use enter as punctuation
[08:40] <Aesop> jrib, Not sure, something from the CCCP, though. How can I find out for sure?
[08:40] <blue_> im not givin up
[08:41] <amcq> ubotu: maybe i am using the wrong repsitories?
[08:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about maybe i am using the wrong repsitories?
[08:41] <fishsticks> !repositories
[08:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:41] <blue_> ya thought of that too...
[08:41] <blue_> umm
[08:41] <jrib> Aesop: right click on the file > properties > audio/video
[08:41] <thiag1> i'm trying to upgrade to dapper, but after rebooting it gets stucked on "Mounting root filesystem". Can someone help me?
[08:41] <blue_> thats rough
[08:41] <skavenge> Looking for a way to disable press-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, anyone?
[08:41] <uniq> blue_: are you running this as the user that was added during installation?
[08:42] <Aesop> jrib, And here I was thinking that that was too easy... Type is AVI video, MIME type isx-msvideo
[08:42] <garar> hi
[08:42] <blue_> ya
[08:42] <blue_> that could be it!!!!!
[08:42] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:42] <maksa_86> helo everybody
[08:42] <jrib> Aesop: there should be an audio/video tab at the top that will give you the codec
[08:42] <blue_> going to try something be back\hopefully..
[08:43] <uniq> blue_: you would need to run the commands as the user you added during install, others will fail if they haven't been added to the correct groups.
[08:43] <stefg> !wireless
[08:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:43] <amcq> !easysoure
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysoure
[08:43] <amcq> !easysource
[08:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:43] <jrib> Aesop: have you installed mplayer or xine and w32codecs?
[08:43] <blue_> thanks
[08:43] <blue_> peace!!1
[08:43] <jrib> Aesop: vlc won't play wmv9 unless you recompile afaik
[08:43] <Aesop> jrib, Yeah, Mplayer and xine and the codecs, I was just thinking of that. Wonder why that isn't working....
[08:44] <Shyne> Im having some problems with XGL + Compiz - logging into an xgl session works , its very slow though and compiz doesnt seem to be running
[08:44] <Flannel> Shyne: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL support please
[08:44] <Cntryboy> Does linux native games supposed to be jerkier than windows?
[08:44] <Shyne> ta
[08:44] <jrib> Aesop: those should work, can you run 'mplayer /path/to/file.avi' and pastebin the output?
[08:45] <Flawless> I get errors like this when I try to mount an external usb disk "[  306.834988]  usb 1-7.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32" - anyone knows what error -32 is?
[08:45] <Aesop> jrib, the command works, sound comes up, no videa, Lemme go drop  the output it into pastebin.
[08:45] <uniq> bluet_: happy to help, you should add all users you want to be able to use sudo, to the 'admin' group. for users to access removable devices they must also have the 'plugdev' group. there is also floppy, cdrom, audio, scanner, lpadmin (printing admin). and so on.
[08:45] <Aesop> Ha!
[08:45] <Aesop> I have no idea what I just did, but it's working.... All I can think of is that I started Mplayer from the command line.
[08:45] <skavenge> !register
[08:45] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:46] <uniq> bluet_: sorry, wrong nick, the guy i was addressing just left.
[08:46] <kristian> !ati
[08:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:47] <Niklas_E> is there anything I need to enable in X to be able to run mplayer fullscreen in ubuntu?
[08:47] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why my unreal tournament is jerky?
[08:47] <Aesop> jrib, Thanks for the help. It works when I start mplayer from the terminal, but not when I start Mplayer from X and then load the video
[08:47] <guy> hi you guys, i need help installing wimmodem, can anyone help?
[08:47] <Aesop> jrib, I think I can live with that.
[08:47] <jrib> Aesop: ok, well it /should/ work, maybe you can get xine to work.  Check that the path to the codecs is correct.  I'll be watching the soccer game now, gl
[08:48] <Cntryboy> guy_: look and see if your modem is compatiable and linmodems.org
[08:48] <Cntryboy> -and +at
[08:48] <guy> my computer's resolution is 640x480
[08:48] <Dial_tone> Niklas_E: there shouldn't be
[08:48] <skavenge> Looking for a way to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, anyone?
[08:48] <jrib> Aesop: also you could try renaming your ~/.mplayer directory and see if it works then.  Or running 'gmplayer file.avi' for clues
[08:49] <Cntryboy> guy: go to linmodems.org to see if your modem is compatiable
[08:49] <Jerr> this is strange, where is the file to edit to change the text when you login over ssh?
[08:49] <guy> have downloaded modemtest.gz file
[08:49] <Aesop> jrib, Alright, I'll give those a go. What would I rename the directory to?
[08:49] <Cntryboy> guy: most winmodems aren't unless there is a 3rd party linux driver or a driver made for it.
[08:49] <Jerr> Its not in .bashrc or anywhere I can remember
[08:49] <jrib> Aesop: mv ~/.mplayer ~/.mplayer.backup
[08:50] <Aesop> jrib, Reh? Running GMplayer gives me 'Skin Not Found'
[08:50] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:50] <Aesop> jrib, I think I know the problem now...
[08:50] <guy> modem data.txt says that 'a modem was not detected amojnt the above pci devices this indicates that the modem if present has a non standard or ISAA bridge/  ????
[08:50] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys is xserver the default xviewer for ubuntu?
[08:50] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:50] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <guy> The modem is an ISA modem
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <guy> I ran the modem GZ file from the GUI? in UBUNtu is that ok?
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> CppIsWeird: please dont spam#
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <uniq> !ops
[08:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <LoRez> Warning: `CppIsWeird' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:51] <skavenge> haha
[08:51] <stefg> STOP SPAM
[08:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ackeubu_: i dont understand your question
[08:51] <aLPHa_LeaK> what an idiot...
[08:51] <Chuma> Say, is there any way to make Nautilus preview HTML or OpenDocument files as icons?
[08:52] <Jerr> !ndiswrapper
[08:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:52] <guy> [spammmer] 
[08:52] <stefg> !ask
[08:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:52] <aLPHa_LeaK> i should tell him about canonical ubuntu commercial support :D
[08:52] <stefg> !patience
[08:52] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:53] <evilyoda> anybody else having immediate crashes on starting up any Mono program? For example, banshee just dies and gives me a big old stack trace
[08:53] <Nuln> Hi. When windows starts, I have this error msg : "hal.dll is corrupted or missing". This is a fresh installation. I had this error next installing ubuntu... Can u help me plz ?
[08:53] <Aesop> jrib, Got it. Reinstalling the skins package worked.
[08:53] <Ademan> what's nubuntu?
[08:53] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know command for fps in unreal tournament original?
[08:53] <Dial_tone> how often is the locatedb updated?
[08:53] <Ademan> Cntryboy: my unreal tournament moves at like the speed of light, and i think its "showfps 1"
[08:54] <aLPHa_LeaK> Dial_tone: weekly iirc
[08:54] <guy> i have a problem wiht my resolution, it doesnt go above 640x480 how can i change it to at least 800x600?
[08:54] <Ademan> maybe show_fps 1 or show fps 1
[08:54] <stefg> nubuntu == ubuntu w/ enlightenment-desktop
[08:54] <Ackeubu_> aLPHa_LeaK i need to install driver for my grph card on my laptop. it seems as if ATI has drivers for XFree86. they have published driver for my card and a special XFree86 in RPM format. (Red hat?) so can i install their XFree86 or should i find one for ubuntu?! and then install the drivers for my ATI mobility card?
[08:54] <aLPHa_LeaK> but just do sudo locate -u
[08:54] <Cntryboy> ademan I was trying show fps 1
[08:54] <Cntryboy> maybe that was my prob. brb thx
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <Dial_tone> ok
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <uniq> !ops
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <LoRez> Warning: `CppIsWeird' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <Ademan> CppIsWierd: quit spamming, we'll answer your question if you stop...
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <guy> we dont care anymore
[08:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> CppIsWeird: u gonna get it
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i dont give a fuck really...
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <Ademan> kick ban already
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:54] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <LoRez> Warning: `CppIsWeird' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> CppIsWeird: use windoes the , nub
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <CppIsWeird> i have downloaded nubuntu, how do i set up my wireless card? the card claims it has a Prism 2.5 Chipset.
[08:55] <guy> stop wasting bandwidth!
[08:55] <Ademan> if you can't handle c++ you suck at life
[08:55] <SonicChao> Thank you...heez
[08:55] <guy> ok
[08:55] <SonicChao> Stupid spammers
[08:55] <guy> so anyone want to help me with resolution?
[08:55] <SonicChao> What's nubuntu?
[08:55] <guy> sudo ???? to get into xconfig
[08:55] <Ackeubu_>  aLPHa_LeaK i need to install driver for my grph card on my laptop. it seems as if ATI has drivers for XFree86. they have published driver for my card and a special XFree86 in RPM format. (Red hat?) so can i install their XFree86 or should i find one for ubuntu?! and then install the drivers for my ATI mobility card?
[08:55] <Cntryboy> ademan: showfps 1 didn't work do I need to add "   " also?
[08:55] <Ademan> ubuntu with enlightenment desktop
[08:56] <Jerr> !resolution
[08:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:56] <guy> yes
[08:56] <guy> lol ineed to get a resolution on my resolution problem hehe
[08:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> no, i think fluxbox
[08:56] <guy> need to run xconfig\
[08:56] <Ademan> the quotes? no, i'm sorry, i havent played original UT in a long time, especially since on newer computers it seems to be too fast for its own good
[08:56] <guy> whats the command to re-install gnome gui config
[08:57] <Cntryboy> ademan: well do u know how to get my fps to show?
[08:57] <Ademan> aLPHa_LeaK: oh, well i was just regurgitating lol, so that very well may be
[08:57] <Dial_tone> xscreensaver keeps locking my box up
[08:57] <SonicChao> Ah...nUbuntu doesn't use XFCE, or even KDE...
[08:57] <guy> pleeze anyone help?
[08:57] <guy> !
[08:58] <Cntryboy> guy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:58] <amcq> thanks got it working
[08:58] <Jerr> damn, what do you call the login text?
[08:58] <Ademan> OH OH OH!!!! Cntryboy ITS "stat fps" (without quotes)
[08:58] <amcq> i had to change some of my repositories and voila away it goes
[08:58] <Cntryboy> ademan: okay let me try that thx
[08:59] <Jerr> like "Ubuntu comes with Absolutely NO Warranty"
[09:00] <Jerr> when you login to a shell (over SSH in this case)
[09:00] <neopsyche> could someone please helpme
[09:00] <skavenge> Looking for a way to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, anyone? Or a way to make it less sensitive at the vary least..
[09:00] <aLPHa_LeaK> Jerr: motd
[09:00] <Flannel> Jerr: MOTD, usually.
[09:00] <aLPHa_LeaK> hehe
[09:00] <Jerr> ah
[09:00] <kristian> !ati
[09:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:00] <aLPHa_LeaK> can be changed in /etc/motd
[09:00] <Jerr> thanks
[09:01] <Jerr> on most systems its like in the .bashrc
[09:01] <Cntryboy> ademan: that shows my frames per msec and its at 12
[09:01] <bijan> how can I get my thumbmosuebuttons to work (forth and back) and how can I integrate them into cedega
[09:01] <Cntryboy> ademan: I thought the fps would be different than frames, and atleast in the 80's lol
[09:01] <refuze> i'm having issues with glx on an intel i810.. i've searched and can't find a solution. can anybody help me?
[09:02] <njan> Jerr, you may also want to look at /etc/issue
[09:02] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell bijan about mouse
[09:02] <KenSentMe> Cntryboy: i thought fps is frames per second
[09:02] <njan> Jerr, issue/issue.net are displayed prior to logon (man issue)
[09:02] <neopsyche> thankx
[09:02] <neopsyche> got command
[09:02] <Cntryboy> it is
[09:02] <ikken> what's an easy way to make gnome kinda transparent?
[09:02] <Cntryboy> but what I meant was, it should atleast be 80's or more
[09:02] <Gullstad> how make a "netsend" over ubuntu?
[09:02] <Cntryboy> not 12
[09:02] <Cntryboy> 9-12
[09:03] <aLPHa_LeaK> Gullstad: wall?
[09:03] <brupp> hello everyone
[09:03] <Gullstad> aLPHa_LeaK: Give me an exaple?
[09:03] <mikeo1> is there a way to install flash player with amd64
[09:03] <mikeo1> to watch flash movies and stuff
[09:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> Gullstad: that just sends a message to everybody logged in on the box.
[09:04] <Ackeubu_> how do I install a deb package in terminal?
[09:04] <neutrinomass> Ackeubu_: 'sudo dpkg -i blah.deb'
[09:04] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: apt-get
[09:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> Flannel: no
[09:05] <Flannel> man apt-get
[09:05] <Flannel> ack
[09:05] <Gullstad> aLPHa_LeaK: That would work fine.
[09:05] <Jerr> can I still make user-specific login messages
[09:05] <Cntryboy> ackeubu: sudo apt-get install
[09:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> Gullstad: "wall -", type your text, press enter, press ctrl-d and done
[09:06] <Jerr> so that one user has a message with information for using his account, another can just have fortune, etc.
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> flannel  i need to install driver for my grph card on my laptop. it seems as if ATI has drivers for XFree86. they have published driver for my card and a special XFree86 in RPM format. (Red hat?) so can i install their XFree86 or should i find one for ubuntu?! and then install the drivers for my ATI mobility card?
[09:07] <facefaceface> hi, how do I get the batterly life of my monitor from teh cmd line?
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> How do i install a rpm package?
[09:07] <Cntryboy> ademan: isn't fps different than frames per millisec?
[09:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> Jerr: use a .bashrc instead of a motd
[09:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> Cntryboy: without the milli ;)
[09:08] <Flannel> !alien
[09:08] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat package management system. Not nearly as good as apt/dpkg. Avoid using .rpm packages on Ubuntu and if you really need them, use alien.
[09:08] <Cntryboy> alpha_leak: what?
[09:08] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: have you tried installing the ati drivers in universe?
[09:08] <moonlite> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <Jerr> ok, thanks
[09:08] <JW> how to define domain name / workgroup name for a LAN
[09:08] <Cntryboy> alpha_leak: I'm trying to see fps in unrealtournament 99, stat fps shows frames per millisec not frames per sec
[09:08] <aLPHa_LeaK> Cntryboy: fps is frames per millisec without the milli ;)
[09:09] <Cntryboy> oh ok
[09:09] <aLPHa_LeaK> Cntryboy: dunno how to do that
[09:09] <Ackeubu_> Flannel I used alien but the generated deb package generates errors so i cant install..
[09:09] <Cntryboy> so fps is the same as fpms?
[09:09] <Ackeubu_> moonlite yes i think i did
[09:09] <Cntryboy> i didn't know that
[09:09] <Flannel> Ackeubu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[09:09] <Cntryboy> ms is big differenence in seconds
[09:10] <grimboy> !samba
[09:10] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:10] <aLPHa_LeaK> Cntryboy: no, one fpms is 1000 fps
[09:10] <Jerr> so in .bashrc, I need to echo what I want with like echo Text or what?
[09:11] <brupp> I installed Dapper server on an elderly AMD K6-2 and it does only boot just after GRUB and then the system cold restarts. What could I do here?
[09:11] <aLPHa_LeaK> Jerr: yeah at the end of the file
[09:11] <Jerr> ok
[09:11] <Cntryboy> alpha_leak: well my game 006.2 ms
[09:12] <Ackeubu_> Flannel i used alien as described. but i stile cant install the generated deb package.
[09:12] <yallaman> i installed nvidia-glx and nvidia kernel via apt-get as in the guide..but when i do "glxinfo | grep direct " i get: direct rendering: No ..whats wrong?
[09:12] <Cntryboy> how many fps would that be
[09:12] <aLPHa_LeaK> Jerr: or if you want fortune just type "fortune" and the packages you want
[09:12] <Ackeubu_> moonlite i have the xserver ati driver installed.
[09:12] <Jerr> ok
[09:12] <aLPHa_LeaK> Cntryboy: *1000?
[09:12] <mikeo1> how come sound doesnt work with flash player running in wine
[09:12] <Ackeubu_> moonlite i stil cant change my screen resolution to above 1024x800
[09:12] <Cntryboy> no way my card is running at that speed though
[09:13] <Cntryboy> something is up, its jerky as crap
[09:13] <Cntryboy> 6.2ms x 1000 theres no way its that fast
[09:13] <Cntryboy> most games on windows is from 80-100 fps
[09:13] <tdn> For some reason the Ubuntu splash screen doesn't come up on one of my computers during bootup. How come? How do I fix it?
[09:13] <JW> how do I define a domain name / workgroup name for a LAN
[09:14] <xenex> Anyone know how to make an iPod Video work with 6.06?
[09:14] <Ackeubu_> moonlite lspci shows 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145
[09:14] <tritium> JW: sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba-common
[09:14] <mathieu> how do you wake up your system from hibernation in Ubuntu ?
[09:14] <Flannel> xenex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideo
[09:15] <Cntryboy> alpha_leak: 0.0062 second
[09:15] <tritium> mathieu: power button
[09:15] <Cntryboy> so what would be the fps? 62?
[09:15] <ajayc> whihch is better kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:15] <mathieu> tritium: and if the power button is rebooting the computer ?
[09:15] <xenex> Flannel: I'm not looking to put videos on my iPod. I just listen to songs.
[09:15] <aLPHa_LeaK> Cntryboy: you have a frame every 0.0062 seconds or what?
[09:15] <mikeo1> how do i get sound to work with flash player running in wine
[09:15] <^richiefrich> ajayc what do u want kde or gnome
[09:15] <pike_> ajayc: xubuntu :)
[09:15] <ajayc> whihch is better kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:15] <Cntryboy> no
[09:16] <ajayc> pike_, that is giving me probs
[09:16] <facefaceface> exit
[09:16] <Cntryboy> 006.2 frames per millisec
[09:16] <aLPHa_LeaK> ajayc: depends
[09:16] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: i don't own an ASTI device so i wouldn't know anything further. But i knew of that binarydriver-guide that's all.
[09:16] <^richiefrich> ajayc what do u want kde or gnome
[09:16] <yallaman> no one to help newb?
[09:16] <ajayc> pike_, i installed et and the game screen askew towards the left
[09:16] <tritium> mathieu: are you _sure_?  It should look like it's booting until it starts to restore state from the swap partition.
[09:16] <pike_> ajayc: i would recommend trying both and see which environment you like
[09:16] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, anything
[09:16] <^richiefrich> ajayc then install one
[09:16] <ajayc> are they same?
[09:17] <^richiefrich> ajayc there the same one uses kde one uses gnome
[09:17] <neopsyche> question
[09:17] <ajayc> pike_, help me with the et prob
[09:17] <mathieu> tritium: i am sure, i don't have a swap partition but i have a swap file that lives on the partition do you think that this could be the problem ?
[09:17] <yallaman> i installed nvidia-glx and nvidia kernel via apt-get as in the guide..but when i do "glxinfo | grep direct " i get: direct rendering: No ..whats wrong?
[09:17] <neopsyche> can I change my resolution setings in xorg and then do i have to reboot for changes to take effect?\
[09:17] <Ackeubu_> moonlite think the guide dont apply for ATI mobility radeon X1400
[09:17] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, which do u suggest
[09:17] <pike_> ajayc: one game you are trying to play is displaying wrong?
[09:17] <^richiefrich> ajayc u dont want to know :)
[09:17] <ajayc> pike_, Enemy Territory
[09:18] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, tell me
[09:18] <psilon> resolution is stuck on 640x480
[09:18] <^richiefrich> ajayc  gentoo
[09:18] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, i am on gentoo
[09:18] <pike_> neotard: just alt-ctrl-backspace that will restart x
[09:18] <Flannel> xenex: alright, well, whatever you want, heres your choice of docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Ipod&titlesearch=Titles
[09:18] <katie> hi can someone help me make an audio disk from mp3?  i just updated to dapper and it states:  the plugin to handle audio/mpeg is not installed but it plays fine on xmms
[09:18] <Ackeubu_> moonlite this is my card and install instructions for redhat. https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18-inst.html
[09:18] <ajayc> pike_, my game prob?
[09:18] <Jerr> !help
[09:18] <pike_> ajayc: nvidia or ati?
[09:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:18] <Flannel> !tell psilon about resolution
[09:18] <xenex> Flannel: Nevermind. The iPod works now. I guess it didn't mount because the iPod was charging.
[09:18] <mikeo1> how do i get sound working with wine
[09:18] <Ackeubu_> moonlite but ofcourse i am on a ubuntu
[09:19] <crimsun_> katie: install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[09:19] <ajayc> pike_, Intel 915
[09:19] <katie> thanks crimsun_ :)
[09:19] <ajayc> pike_, Intel 915
[09:19] <pike_> ajayc: ah is 3d accel working ok?
[09:19] <neotard> pike_:  eh?
[09:19] <Ackeubu_> SO is it possible to install rpms??
[09:20] <ajayc> pike_, yupps
[09:20] <tritium> mathieu: absolutely
[09:20] <tritium> mathieu: you need a swap partition to hibernate
[09:20] <pike_> neotard: when you make change to xorg.conf file dont worry about rebooting just restart x
[09:20] <mathieu> tritium: but i do have a swap file that I activate with swapon
[09:20] <neotard> pike_:  great to know, since I already did.
[09:21] <pike_> ajayc: do you know what driver youre using? i810?
[09:21] <ajayc> pike_, i915
[09:21] <Ackeubu_> Flannel the error i get when i install from the deb version of my package is pkg: error processing fglrx-4-3-0_8.25.18-1_i386.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/ati.xpm', which is also in package fglrx-control
[09:21] <psilon> thaks x is working now at 1024x768
[09:21] <pike_> ajayc: not sure thats what im using and i havent had any problems
[09:21] <tritium> mathieu: that won't work with hibernate
[09:21] <Ackeubu_> Flannel is there a fix for that you think>
[09:22] <Ackeubu_> Flannel can i get around the ati.xpm error mess
[09:22] <pike_> ajayc: i915 i mean
[09:22] <ajayc> pike_, what r u using? xubuntu?
[09:22] <rye> How do i remove Ubuntu 5.10 from my laptop and keep Windows? I want a fresh install of Windows and Ubuntu
[09:22] <pike_> ajayc: yes. are you using dapper?
[09:22] <katie> crimsun_: i install that package and i get the same error
[09:22] <ajayc> pike_, yes
[09:22] <crimsun_> katie: with what app?
[09:22] <mathieu> tritium: thanks for the help, i'm backing up my files as we speak
[09:23] <katie> crimsun_: gnomebaker
[09:23] <tritium> mathieu: sure.
[09:23] <crimsun_> katie: gnomebaker needs the older gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:23] <katie> crimsun_:  oh...i have k3b too
[09:23] <BSoDirl> Quick question: anyone compile wine from source on breezy and get nothing?
[09:23] <siriusnova> !kernel
[09:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:23] <katie> crimsun_:  what app would you recommend to do it?
[09:23] <crimsun_> katie: and k3b would need libk3b2-mp3
[09:24] <psilon> hello
[09:24] <pike_> ajayc: youll have to ask someon wiser than me sorry :)
[09:24] <ajayc> pike_, ?
[09:24] <crimsun_> katie: I normally use Serpentine.
[09:24] <ajayc> pike_, someone wiser like?
[09:24] <psilon> can someone help, now ive restarted and the resolution is at 1024 but i need to reconfig my mouse that is not ps2 to serial
[09:24] <rye> How do i remove Ubuntu 5.10 from my laptop and keep Windows? I want a fresh install of Windows and Ubuntu
[09:24] <psilon> :-)
[09:24] <simp> hello a problem over here, ubuntu install doesn't detect my keyboard i use version 5.10 of ubuntu install cd and my keyboard is logitech Y-ST39
[09:24] <Ackeubu_> flannel uuups its installed hehe. i removed the packages that was causing the problem
[09:24] <crimsun_> katie: should be installed by default in Applications> Sound & Video>
[09:24] <katie> crimsun_:  yep, and it appears to work
[09:25] <BSoDirl> anyone ever use wine on ubuntu? :\
[09:25] <kristian> !ati
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:25] <katie> crimsun_:  i have nero linux, k3b, and gnomebaker
[09:25] <psilon> try using an emulator for windoze within linux on your laptop
[09:25] <pike_> ajayc: i guess you could try reconfiguring xorg "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or try a different resolution
[09:25] <psilon> with linux as the core system
[09:25] <psilon> ;-)
[09:25] <Ackeubu_> how do i run a file that ends with .run???
[09:25] <katie> crimsun_:  couldnt get any of them to work :)
[09:26] <tronica> Ackeubu_, sh filename.run
[09:26] <Ackeubu_> tronica thanks
[09:26] <psilon> how do i edit mouse
[09:26] <benoy> hi all, I have installed xubuntu and tried to play a video file but only the video plays, there is no sound.  Is there supposed to be a sound when xubuntu turns on like there is in ubuntu because I don't hear anything.  When I had breezy-ubuntu, the sound worked fine but with dapper-xubuntu, I don't hear a thing
[09:26] <crimsun_> katie: none of them work after installing the aforementioned packages?
[09:26] <psilon> my mouse isnt working
[09:26] <psilon> please help
[09:26] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: 8.24.8 adds support for X1400 according to this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_X1400
[09:26] <ajayc> pike_, thankx will try that
[09:26] <katie> crimsun_: serpentine works
[09:27] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: and ubuntu uses 8.25.18
[09:27] <BSoDirl> psilon: every other distro I use has no prob. with wine :[
[09:27] <psilon> ok
[09:27] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: what happens when you type "glxinfo | grep Direct Rendering" ?
[09:27] <BSoDirl> and I compile it too.
[09:27] <crimsun_> katie: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad and libk3b2-mp3?
[09:27] <Ackeubu_> moonlite thanks alot.. ooh im gonna check glxinfo
[09:27] <psilon> no im not running wine was just mentoioning it to another person
[09:27] <psilon> but need help with mouse
[09:28] <psilon> ubotu mouse
[09:28] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto
[09:28] <crimsun_> katie: installing those two additional packages should allow you to burn mp3s "directly" in both gnomebaker and k3b
[09:28] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: "direct rendering" :)
[09:28] <BSoDirl> that was me :>
[09:28] <moonlite> no caps as i said
[09:29] <MrStein> On 6.06 desktop CD, how do I get the boot prompt ?
[09:29] <Ackeubu_> moonlite grep: Rendering: No such file or directory
[09:29] <Ackeubu_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:29] <g-nome> anyone knows how to add these repos? (http://listengnome.free.fr/index.php?nom_page=download)
[09:29] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: you made a typo
[09:30] <moonlite> or i made a typo obviously
[09:30] <risto> Any good download links? New user - damn MP3
[09:30] <katie> crimsun_:  cool thanks itraries? works :)  how do you keep track of all those lib
[09:30] <Ackeubu_> moonlite okay
[09:30] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[09:30] <crimsun_> katie: developers should know "something"
[09:30] <katie> crimsun_:  cool thanks it works :)  how do you keep track of all those lib
[09:30] <katie> crimsun_:  i guess so :)
[09:30] <jajaja-> the installer keeps crashing when I try to install :(
[09:31] <risto> arrg
[09:31] <simp> hello a problem over here, ubuntu install doesn't detect my keyboard i use version 5.10 of ubuntu install cd and my keyboard is logitech Y-ST39
[09:31] <pike_> benoy: i had to do this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16385  both times i installed dapper youll prob have to adjust it to your setup
[09:31] <g-nome> if it says: "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./", can i just add EXACTLY this to sources.list and it would work then?
[09:31] <Ackeubu_> moonlite Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". direct rendering: No
[09:31] <Lynoure> risto: download links for what?
[09:31] <tronica> simp, is that a usb board
[09:31] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: then i'm thinking that you installed the drivers in universe wrong
[09:32] <skavenge> Looking for a way to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, anyone? Or a way to make it less sensitive at the vary least..
[09:32] <risto> MP3 play -----er
[09:32] <tronica> simp,  try using a usb to ps/2
[09:32] <Lynoure> risto: player software does come with ubuntu. Easyubuntu is the easiest way to install the codecs
[09:32] <simp> tronica: it is a ps2 keyboard
[09:32] <katie> crimsun_:  my roomate is very thankful, she give you a kiss...thanks for being a developer!
[09:32] <tronica> simp, hmm
[09:32] <simp> tronica: and it does go straight into the ps2 port
[09:32] <Lynoure> risto: google for that and you'll find it.
[09:32] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: did you go through the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI correctly?
[09:32] <Ackeubu_> moonlite i jsut uninstalled some xorg86 driver as rpm aliend to deb and installed the ati driver
[09:32] <risto> Codecs
[09:33] <MrStein> boot prompt, does anyone know how to get to it ?
[09:33] <Ackeubu_> moonlite no not yet :)
[09:33] <kristian> How do i get webcameras work with kopete?
[09:33] <risto> Lets tr that
[09:33] <fijam> hello. Simple question: How to add multiverse repositories in Xubuntu
[09:33] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: what are you saying? you first tried red hats packages before testing the native ones? :)
[09:33] <Lynoure> risto: no, google for Easyubuntu to find it
[09:33] <g-nome> if it says: "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./", can i just add EXACTLY this to sources.list and it would work then?
[09:33] <tronica> simp,  i can't really suggest anything, other than to post in the forums for better help
[09:33] <simp> !tell fijam about multiverse
[09:34] <simp> tronica: thanks for trying to help :)
[09:34] <Lynoure> !tell risto about easyubuntu
[09:34] <Ackeubu_> moonlite i used the once i found in the ubuntu synaptic didnt work and now i tested the drivers from atis home page. i dont know if i need to restart my x though..
[09:34] <kkman> hi
[09:34] <pike_> MrStein: you are trying to get to the console?
[09:34] <Ackeubu_> moonlite bear with me a litle i will restart and come back okay?!
[09:34] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: yeah you need to restart
[09:35] <moonlite> Ackeubu_: sure
[09:35] <kkman> I installed a wifi card (ndiswrapper) but it was named eth1. how do i change its name to wlan0 ?
[09:35] <fijam> simp: thanks
[09:35] <simp> :)
[09:35] <Lynoure> risto: or just go to http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ to get it
[09:36] <flo>  i'm having this problem, when i put a cd in the cdrom drive i get the icon of the cd on the desktop for about 2 sec then it disapears and i cant acces the content of any cd , what's hapening?
[09:36] <MrStein> pike_ : I am trying to get to the boot prompt ;-)
[09:36] <MrStein> of the CD
[09:37] <pike_> MrStein: gotcha, sorry i havent tried the new live/install cd
[09:37] <kkman> [Re-Asking]  how do i change the name of a NIC from wth1 to wlan0 ?
[09:37] <tritium> kkman: /etc/iftab
[09:38] <hanasaki> anyone using adzapper + squid on 6.06 dapper?  for some reason adzapper cant get to the files to replace ads with
[09:38] <hanasaki> 2. URL path: /zaps/no-op.html
[09:39] <yallaman> i could need some help enable direct rendring on my nvidia card..did apt-get install nvidia-glx as told in the guides...but direct dont work for me
[09:39] <kkman> tritium: please be more specific...
[09:39] <risto> I am (in) google now
[09:40] <tritium> kkman: you can specify it in that file.  "man iftab" for more info
[09:40] <Lynoure> risto: I already gave you the direct link... see above
[09:41] <psilon> how can i configure my mouse in badger?
[09:41] <risto> Thanx verrrrrry much
[09:41] <psilon> i need to edit some command lines but cant remember how
[09:42] <psilon> changed resolution to higher but need to change to serial mouse, mouse not working'
[09:42] <pike_> psilon: suod dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:42] <pike_> psilon: er that is sudo not suod :)
[09:42] <Lynoure> risto: Ole hyv :)
[09:43] <psilon> thanks pike!
[09:43] <psilon> ;-)
[09:43] <garryF> to edit the xorg.conf and hand change your mouse do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:44] <risto> Have I died and gone to Linux...tack so mycket
[09:44] <scott__> i am in desperate need of help :(, amarok has decided to nuke all my music off of my ipod :(, all but 256 tracks :@ grrrrrrrrrrrr, this is first time i used linux with my ipod as i haven't trusted it not to mess it up and now it has on the first go :@, is there any way to recover these songs as i didnt have space to back them up from windows when converting from windows to linux so my only copy was on my ipod, thats 25gig of music ive lost if not, someone
[09:44] <scott__> please help me retrieve it back
[09:44] <tommie-> i got some java problems on hoary
[09:45] <garryF> I believe there are several articles on recovering songs from an ipod that can be found via google.
[09:45] <pike_> scott__: im not sure what file system ipods use but im sure you can recover them
[09:45] <tommie-> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
[09:45] <Ackeubu_> hey im back, no luck with my ati drivers..
[09:45] <scott__> pike_,  its formatted in windows so i believe its fat32
[09:45] <tommie-> like classpath isnt being recognized/
[09:45] <loststar4545> i compiled my own kernel using the guide on the ubuntu files if i save the .deb files  that i made cam o install them on a clean install
[09:46] <tritium> loststar4545: yes
[09:46] <tommie-> java version "1.5.0_07"
[09:46] <tommie-> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-b03)
[09:46] <tommie-> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_07-b03, mixed mode)
[09:46] <tommie-> JAVA_HOME="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07"
[09:46] <SmartUnix> Hello
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: you can use a windows reccovery program.  I would try to get an image of the ipod before going any further.
[09:46] <Ackeubu_> I need install instructions for mobility radeon 1400!!!
[09:46] <tommie-> PATH="/usr/local/ant/bin:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[09:46] <mikeo1> how do i get wine to work with sound
[09:46] <mikeo1> and flash player running in wine
[09:46] <mikeo1> on amd64
[09:46] <mikeo1> wine is running in lib32 or something
[09:47] <garryF> might be able to even mount the ipod as a drive.
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeo1: Is wine part of the basic install, I didnt see it in the debs..
[09:47] <tommie-> anybody know wtf is wrong
[09:47] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, how would i go about doing that?
[09:47] <yoshiznit123> hi, i'm looking to buy a new graphics card (probably nvidia), are certain cards better supported than others under linux?
[09:47] <mikeo1> i dunno
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: do you have a ms box available?
[09:47] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, no :(
[09:47] <mikeo1> Wine 0.9.11
[09:47] <sword> whats up
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> k I will check
[09:48] <tommie-> Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9
[09:48] <pike_> yoshiznit123: not probably def nvidia other than that you should be fine
[09:48] <sword> has anyone compiled linux 2.6.16 and used the nvidia driver with it?
[09:48] <yoshiznit123> tommie, hoary's pretty old, have you tried dapper? sun's java is in the dapper repos
[09:48] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, ive found a windows program that says it will recover songs from an ipod though, trying it through wine atm
[09:48] <sword> i'm having trouble...probably somethign with the frame buffer
[09:48] <tommie-> on amd64
[09:48] <tommie-> jdk-1_5_0_07-linux-amd64.bin
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:48] <__mikem> um, where are the kernel headers located in ubuntu, I am trying to install vmware tools
[09:48] <tommie-> well it worked before
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> I have done that to my Ipod as well
[09:48] <tommie-> then after reformat, all of a sudden classpath si messed
[09:48] <psilon> says no write permission for file "/etc/x11/xorg.conf"
[09:48] <psilon> hmm
[09:48] <tommie-> this is a dedicated server
[09:49] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, program doesn runt under wine :(
[09:49] <tritium> __mikem: in the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Most direct access programs wont work
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> HEy imb
[09:49] <pike_> psilon: you need to preface any command requiring super user access with sudo like sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:50] <imbrandon> sup Jack_Sparrow
[09:50] <pike_> psilon: better to use gksudo when youre in a graphical environment
[09:50] <SmartUnix> please , i want ask please can i found tool for Linux help me to write boot sector in the first sector of floppy ?
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> nothing..
[09:50] <psilon> thanks
[09:50] <psilon> hmm
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> scott, just find a friend with an MS box, that will fix it..
[09:50] <psilon> gtk warning cannot open display
[09:50] <skavenge> boy thats the third time frostwire has locked up my x session when i tried to start it, wierd
[09:51] <imbrandon> Jack_Sparrow, you know you can use imb<tab key> to say the full name too ;)
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs, thanks..
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Fat fingers and a lazy afternoon.. :)
[09:51] <__mikem> tritium, what dirrectory will it install to
[09:51] <imbrandon> heheh
[09:51] <tommie-> i also try to export
[09:51] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow,  true, will ave to go down a mates house, still annoying :(
[09:51] <tommie-> CLASSPATH="/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07/jre/lib:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_07/lib:/drftpd/lib:."
[09:51] <tommie-> never recognizes
[09:51] <Chetic> How do you search for packages using apt-get?
[09:52] <tommie-> Chetic try apt-cache search
[09:52] <imbrandon> Chetic, sudo apt-cache search <pkg name>
[09:52] <Ackeubu_> Heeey guys.. I GOT MY CARD TO WORK thank you so much!!!!
[09:52] <imbrandon> or partial pkg name
[09:52] <Chetic> thank you tommie- and imbrandon!
[09:52] <Ackeubu_> Flannel Thank you so much
[09:52] <Ackeubu_> Moonlite thank you so much!!
[09:53] <patrick_king> im having get INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS linux drivers for my dell c400 does anyone know where i can get these drivers
[09:53] <patrick_king> trouble^
[09:53] <Nathanael> trouble?
[09:54] <patrick_king> im having TROUBLE getting get INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS linux drivers for my dell c400 does anyone know where i can get these drivers
[09:54] <imbrandon> patrick_king, that should use the i810 drivers already loaded in ubuntu
[09:54] <patrick_king> i missed the trouble
[09:54] <imbrandon> patrick_king, please dont repeate
[09:54] <Nathanael> ah
[09:54] <patrick_king> it is using the i810 but it doesnt seem to run very well
[09:54] <SeanTater> patrick_king: chances are, they are already there, you could do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:55] <imbrandon> patrick_king, thats the correct drivers, whats your problems ( how doesnt "it work very well"
[09:55] <imbrandon> )
[09:55] <monkey89> hey - trying to get my network interface running on startup - it runs dhcp fine, but for some reason it isn't automatically associating with the wireless essid.  anyone know why this might be happening?  /etc/network/interfaces looks fine
[09:56] <psilon> still cant edit xorg
[09:56] <monkey89> it has two words in quotes, could that be why?
[09:56] <psilon> any ideas?
[09:56] <SeanTater> monkey89: wep or pra on?
[09:56] <monkey89> nope, very simple
[09:56] <monkey89> (The essid has two words)
[09:56] <stephan__> I'm trying to setup graphics acceleration for the ATI radeon 9000 card on my laptop, but I'm running into some trouble. FIrst, I attempted installing the official ATI drivers but that didn't seem to work so I followed ATI's instructions to uninstall them. Then, I tried the method on this page for installing dapper drake's included driver: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide. fglrxinfo is now giving me a bunch of
[09:56] <stephan__>  lines with "API ERROR" on them.
[09:56] <pike_> monkey89: try sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces you should have an entry that says auto eth0 or somesuch i think
[09:56] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow,  just plugged my ipod back in, rythm box can see ALL the songs on it (and play them) only they arent all listed on my ipod, so it seems the ipod databse on the ipod has got corrupt? any way i can fix this?
[09:57] <monkey89> pike_, yeah - the whole file is fine, its the exact same as I used at home... its just that its not associating to the essid i have set in it
[09:57] <monkey89> could that be because its in quotes?
[09:57] <risto> aarg! xml? or sh (installation)
[09:57] <imbrandon> scott__, you will most like ly have to restore it ( from the apple software ) if thats the case
[09:57] <patrick_king> seantater: what should i put for the memory for video card i have 256mb installed
[09:57] <Nathanael> scott: Have you tried Amarok?
[09:57] <psilon> says cannot open display
[09:57] <yallaman> anyone able to give a n00b a hand getting direct rendering working on nvidia? im going crazy here..:/
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: I dont know about that, I would pull them with rythem and save them to your PC the when you push them back Ipod should see them
[09:58] <g-nome> is there a command to CLEAN up and remove all unneeded files/dependencies?
[09:58] <matth-w> Trying to install znes on my machine, and I can't seem to get it installed completely
[09:58] <SeanTater> patrick_king: I;m not sure, but I think you may be able to leave that alone
[09:58] <scott__> Nathanael, thats what borked it in the first place :D
[09:58] <SeanTater> patrick_king: gtg sorry
[09:58] <Nathanael> ah
[09:58] <garryF> yallaman google for easybuntu and run that script. It should install your graphics driver
[09:58] <patrick_king> wats 32mb in kb
[09:58] <sysdoc> Does anyone have a url with instructions on how to import email from a previous Evolution into anothers users Evolution?
[09:59] <psilon> anyone?
[09:59] <g-nome> is there a command to CLEAN up and remove all unneeded files/dependencies?
[09:59] <monkey89> here's my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16387
[09:59] <ThalesMan44> Bonswaar tout le monde !
[09:59] <psilon> i need to edit config file to get mouse working any ideas?
[09:59] <ThalesMan44> arf mdr i'm french :s
[09:59] <neoncode> Hey I used that gnome network manager panel applet to connect to a wireless network. But I chose the wrong type of Enycription. How do I delete that network entry or change it?
[09:59] <yallaman> running it now garryF ..but i allready installed nvidia-glx as it says in the guide..hope "easy" will fix it then
[09:59] <garryF> yallaman Crosssing fingers.
[10:00] <Nathanael> Double-click the network icon in the tray and configure
[10:00] <g-nome> is there a command to CLEAN up and remove all unneeded files/dependencies?
[10:00] <neoncode> Nathanael: Double-clicking brings up the menu thing then closes it again.
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: WIll acdeesee work under wine? There is an Ipod plugin for it that really works well..
[10:00] <monkey89> hey - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16387 is my interfaces file - but it isnt setting the essid, im using ndiswrapper, whats wrong?
[10:01] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, not a clue, never used it before :), trying gtkpod see if its got anything in there that could fix it
[10:01] <pike_> monkey89: well in bash id suggest word1\ word2 instead of the quotes but im not sure
[10:01] <Pelo> afternoon folks   does ubuntu have a little app to dispaly my ul/dl speed in the taskbar ?
[10:01] <Nathanael> ?
[10:01] <Nathanael> then close it?
[10:01] <Nathanael> *closes
[10:01] <Nathanael> ?
[10:01] <neoncode> Yea...
[10:02] <neoncode> It;s only a drop down box thing.
[10:02] <larson9999> what does ubuntu use instead of modprobe.preoload ?
[10:02] <sysdoc> g-nome, apt-get clean
[10:02] <yallaman> garryF  i got this error..after "easy" was done http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16388
[10:02] <sysdoc> g-nome, see man apt-get
[10:02] <g-nome> sysdoc: thanks! does it also work for aptitude?
[10:02] <neoncode> It's this NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 thing
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: can you mount it as a drive?
[10:02] <Nathanael> neoncode: System>Administration>Networking
[10:03] <sysdoc> g-nome, close it first
[10:03] <Nathanael> Then chose your interface, and chose properties
[10:03] <larson9999> modules
[10:03] <g-nome> close what?
[10:03] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, yes, ive got it mounted atm, rythmbox and gtkpod can see ALL my songs, but on my ipod i can only see a few....
[10:03] <garryF> yallaman change the driver from nv to nvidia
[10:03] <sysdoc> g-nome, aptitude
[10:03] <garryF> yallaman sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__:  since it is mounted you should be able to copy them to a different location
[10:04] <neoncode> Nathanael: Nope... that's not it... This is compleatly diffrent...
[10:04] <Nathanael> ?
[10:04] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, if worst comes to worst i will copy them off ipod to pc then back to ipod, but it means i will loose play counts, play lists etc
[10:04] <g-nome> sysdoc: if nothing is shown, that mean nothing is to be cleaned?
[10:04] <mikeo1> hell yeah finally got flash sound working with amd64 in wine with firefox
[10:04] <yallaman> Section "Device"
[10:04] <yallaman>     Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce PCX 5750] "
[10:04] <yallaman>     Driver         "nvidia"        it was there from before
[10:04] <Nathanael> You are trying ot change your encyption type- correct?
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: that is better than losing all your music..
[10:05] <Nathanael> I assume from WEP to WPA or something...
[10:05] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, definately :), cheers for ur help so far :()
[10:05] <scott__> *:)
[10:05] <garryF> yallman sec ...
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Np, Ipods can be tricky
[10:05] <scott__> just dont know if i wanna trust linux with it again :(
[10:05] <scott__> cant be doing with another scare like this :)
[10:06] <sysdoc> g-nome, probably means nothing was there or it cleaned it out
[10:06] <garryF> yallaman try this sudo nvidia-glx-config enable then hit ctrl-alt-backspace. If you see the nvidia splash screen or your screensavers euphoria is animated it worked.
[10:06] <scott__> if i click 'sync' in gtkpod will it delete all files from my ipod if i dont have them in my pc/library? or just re-write the itunes database with any changes i may have amde to files on my ipod?
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: I loaded up the wifes Ipod once and havent messed with it much since
[10:07] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, lol
[10:07] <g-nome> is it a good thing a program is written in python
[10:07] <ThalesMan44> french here mdr?
[10:07] <yallaman> i get the same error here
[10:08] <g-nome> !fr
[10:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:08] <yallaman> and the nvidia splash have been here all the time
[10:08] <Pelo> !internet
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about internet
[10:08] <garryF> yallaman Oh than your nvidia hardware accelleration is already working.
[10:08] <tritium> yallaman: nvidia splash means you're already using the proprietary driver
[10:08] <Pelo> !bandwidth
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about bandwidth
[10:09] <yallaman> also the screensaver works
[10:09] <chopchop_> anyone knows how to take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[10:09] <g-nome> print screen
[10:09] <Pelo> !banwidth
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about banwidth
[10:09] <tritium> chopchop_: the printscreen button
[10:09] <ThalesMan44> merci ubotu
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: there are tools for that in the debs
[10:09] <chopchop_> tritium: then paste it in gimp?
[10:09] <nathanael> scott__: I have used my 3G iPod multiple times with Amarok, and without issues....
[10:09] <sysdoc> !network
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[10:09] <sysdoc> lol
[10:09] <sysdoc> putz
[10:09] <chopchop_> ok thanks guys, will try
[10:09] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~/easyubuntu$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:09] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:09] <tritium> chopchop_: it opens a dialog box so you can save it
[10:09] <g-nome> !ubuntu
[10:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:09] <yallaman> thats my prob
[10:09] <Pelo> ubotu doesnm'T iknow mucjh does he
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about doesnm'T iknow mucjh does he
[10:10] <g-nome> he does
[10:10] <Pelo> !widget
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about widget
[10:10] <garryF> sec ...
[10:10] <sysdoc> lol
[10:10] <g-nome> ubotu ati
[10:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <scott__> nathanael, well it screwed my 5g up :(, do you know if i press sync in gtkpod whether it will mess my ipod up as i havent any music on my pc or will it just re-write itunes db on my ipod with any changes i mighta made?
[10:10] <tritium> Pelo: please, conduct your experiments in a private query with ubotu
[10:10] <chopchop_> tritium: nothing happen? im using xfce not gnome
[10:10] <nathanael> Sorry Mate, Don't use GTKPod
[10:10] <tritium> chopchop_: oh, I don't know in xfce
[10:10] <scott__> ok np
[10:10] <nathanael> !nothing
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[10:10] <nathanael> lol
[10:10] <Pelo> tritium I'm not experimenting, I am actualy trying to get some help
[10:10] <g-nome> chopchop_: you can download a small program with sybnapitc
[10:11] <g-nome> chopchop_: just make a search (in synaptic) for "screenshot"
[10:11] <chopchop_> g-nome: what is the name please?
[10:11] <__mikem> ONce I install the right package, in whoat dirrectory are the header files installed?
[10:11] <g-nome> chopchop_: it's a widget for the toolbar
[10:11] <pike_> Pelo: he's no dpkg now thats a bot
[10:11] <tritium> Pelo: you can ask questions in the channel.  You can also query ubotu privately
[10:11] <garryF> say yallaman and you have this in your modules section .... Load	"dri"
[10:11] <chopchop_> g-nome: found it, thanks
[10:12] <__mikem> tritium, once I install that package, what dirrectory are the linux headers installed
[10:12] <Pelo> tritium thanks
[10:12] <garryF> say yallaman and this at the end? Section "DRI"
[10:12] <garryF> 	Mode	0666
[10:12] <garryF> EndSection
[10:12] <killaz> I want a mount to automount when I login..... how can I do that with /etc/fstab?
[10:12] <Pelo> I am looking for a little ap to display my connections speed in the taskbar  anyone have a clue ?
[10:12] <tommie-> anybody know about this classpath problem i have with hoary with latest java installed, ive exported everything correctly but still wont recognize any classes
[10:12] <tritium> __mikem: I don't recall.  please "dpkg -L <packagename>" to find out where files in a package are
[10:12] <yallaman> nope
[10:12] <grimboy> Is there a linux program for cleaning up semi-corrupt video? I remember something along these lines on windows.
[10:12] <killaz> or at least that I'm the only that can use that mount
[10:12] <tritium> killaz: with the "auto" mount option
[10:12] <psilon> could someone please tell me what i replace in xorg.conf to make my mouse work it says PS2 in device but i have a serial ms intellimouse
[10:13] <g-nome> to add a repo to sources.list, do i HAVE to add "dapper" after the http address?
[10:13] <yallaman> could you post in pastebin..so i can see how it should be?
[10:13] <killaz> tritium, I'm using /etc/stab ..... and its a samba mount
[10:13] <garryF> yes. will do sec ....
[10:13] <tritium> killaz: you mean /etc/fstab?  Again, use the "auto" option
[10:13] <yoshiznit123> !libdbus-1-dev
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about libdbus-1-dev
[10:13] <loststar4545> is there quick way to associate all multimedia files to mplayer
[10:14] <g-nome> loststar: yes
[10:14] <sysdoc> Pelo, rt clk the task panel and add network monitor
[10:14] <psilon> could someone please tell me what i replace in xorg.conf to make my mouse work it says PS2 in device but i have a serial ms intellimouse anyone?
[10:14] <killaz> tritium, so far I have this //<windows machine name>/<shared folder>   /<mountpoint>   smbfs  auto,username=<user>,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[10:14] <Pelo> sysdoc that doesn'T do what I want
[10:14] <psilon> i know theres a command i can type
[10:14] <g-nome> loststar4545: right click on file -> properties->open with
[10:14] <garryF> yallaman Here ye go. just look for the dri and make sure it's in there. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16389
[10:14] <killaz> tritium, but I only want me to see the mount..
[10:14] <tommie-> :/
[10:14] <yallaman> ty ..ill have look
[10:15] <g-nome> to add a repo to sources.list, do i HAVE to add "dapper" after the http address?
[10:15] <killaz> so what should I leave the user option?
[10:15] <garryF> yallman Welcome. how do you test your dri?
[10:15] <psilon> what do i put next to protocol in xorg.conf for a microsoft intellimouse on serial on a com port
[10:15] <psilon> it currently says ps2
[10:15] <pike_> killaz: you could always mount it under your home dir and chmod 700 /home/killaz
[10:16] <garryF> yallaman I want to test to make sure mine is working.
[10:16] <killaz> pike_, oh wait if I mount it on a folder with 644 that means I'm the only one that can write.... thnx
[10:17] <killaz> pike_, forgot that
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> imbrandon I thought you were running Kubuntu?
[10:17] <lonegeek> How do i mount a fat 32 hard drive....? on dev/hdc
[10:17] <imbrandon> Jack_Sparrow, i am ( dosent mean i cant help ubuntu people ;) )
[10:17] <yallaman> ok..so now restart xserver? or dont i need to?
[10:17] <kristian> I have installed the driver for ATI, but when i read the info in command line, i have this :display: :0.0  screen: 0  OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org   OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect   OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> true
[10:17] <garryF> yallaman could not hurt.
[10:17] <psilon> can anyone help with the mouse problem
[10:17] <refuze> hey when i install Kubuntu why doesn't it give me the option to format to ReiserFS?
[10:17] <imbrandon> lonegeek, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /mount/point
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> You helped me in Ku.. but it just wasnt stable enough so I came here and it is working fine.
[10:17] <psilon> happened after i restarted xserver to run in higher rez
[10:18] <uniq> psilon: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse4.html
[10:18] <yoshiznit123> does anyone know how I can find which repository a given package comes from?
[10:18] <psilon> ok
[10:18] <imbrandon> refuze, if you would use the text installer it does
[10:18] <uniq> yoshiznit123: apt-cache madison packagename
[10:18] <scott__> nathanael, PHEEEEW fixed it by 'synching' with gtkpod, apparantly using amarok 1.3* only 256 songs are shown on ur ipod due to a bug on 4g or newer, damn amarok, gtkpod all the way for me ;)
[10:18] <refuze> imbrandon, why do i need to use the text installer?
[10:19] <sysdoc> Pelo, bwm (bandwidth monitor)
[10:19] <imbrandon> refuze, becouse reiserfs isnt supported on the livecd installer ;)
[10:19] <lonegeek> imbrandon: how do i unmount it...... umount?
[10:19] <imbrandon> lonegeek, yes
[10:19] <yoshiznit123> uniq, thanks! ....why madison? :-)
[10:19] <imbrandon> yoshiznit123, thats the command name ;)
[10:19] <garryF> yallaman is it working now?
[10:19] <lonegeek> imbrandon: when mounting i get mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/backup busy
[10:19] <xenex> !ipod
[10:19] <refuze> imbrandon, it's supported in the gnome livecd installer.. =/
[10:19] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[10:20] <lonegeek> imbrandon: then i do sudo umount /dev/hdc    it says its unmounted..
[10:20] <psilon> ok
[10:20] <uniq> yoshiznit123: because that's the name of the function you want :) you can use 'apt-cache policy packagename' too, if you want, i find madison cleaner.
[10:20] <imbrandon> refuze, yes but not the kubuntu one, you ask how and i gave you the awnser
[10:20] <psilon> how do i save the edited info in nano?
[10:20] <psilon> write out?
[10:20] <darknessofevil> Ctrl+O
[10:20] <darknessofevil> yep
[10:20] <imbrandon> psilon, yes
[10:20] <yallaman> screen saver and logo is there but i have no direct rendering
[10:20] <refuze> imbrandon, i was just wondering why they didn't support it.. thanks for the solution though
[10:20] <psilon> cool
[10:21] <imbrandon> refuze, basicly becouse the support isnt in qtparted yet, when it is we will support it
[10:21] <psilon> thanks
[10:21] <garryF> yallaman Hmmm, how do you test to see if you have direct rendering? What card do you have?
[10:21] <lonegeek> imbrandon: YEAH ITS WORKIGN!!! yes now i can back everything up...!!!
[10:21] <garryF> !dri
[10:21] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[10:21] <psilon> hmm
[10:21] <psilon> mouse still doesnt seem to be moving
[10:22] <psilon> but changed protocol to microsoft
[10:22] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:22] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:22] <imbrandon> psilon, how is your mouse hocked to your computer
[10:22] <killaz> instead of smbfs can i use other command? just out of curiosity
[10:22] <imbrandon> killaz, for mounting smb drives ?
[10:22] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:22] <yoshiznit123> ok, do any apt gurus know how to downgrade a package back to a repository version after a non-repo version has been installed?
[10:22] <Sivik> how do you rip to create iso's off of a disc?
[10:22] <psilon> direct rendereing no?
[10:23] <killaz> imbrandon, yup
[10:23] <asathoor> hi
[10:23] <imbrandon> killaz nope
[10:23] <imbrandon> yoshiznit123, uninstall the app and reinstall it
[10:23] <yallaman> it says so... im having some problems enabeling direct rendering it seems:p
[10:23] <garryF> yallaman: Got me stupmed. I get direct redering yes. What model of nvidia do you have?
[10:23] <imbrandon> Sivik, dd
[10:24] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[10:24] <Sivik> thanks
[10:24] <yoshiznit123> imbrandon, i can't uninstall it, its libdbus-1-2 and a bunch of things depend on it. I tried apt-get install --reinstall, but it says 'package cannot be downloaded'
[10:24] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:24] <asathoor> my system disk is almost full, but apprantly there is lots of space on my hd. However I cannot resize the system hd - what should I do?
[10:24] <garryF> Possbly but unlikley you might have to reboot
[10:24] <yallaman> Section "Device"
[10:24] <yallaman>     Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce PCX 5750] 
[10:24] <uniq> yoshiznit123: sudo apt-get install packagename=version
[10:24] <yoshiznit123> ahhh, uniq, you are wicked :-)
[10:25] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:25] <finalbeta> Can someone recommend me a C/C++ IDE (code completion) for linux? I was using Dev-C++ in windows.
[10:25] <imbrandon> finalbeta, kdevelop3
[10:25] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:25] <grimboy> finalbeta, eclipse
[10:25] <hanasaki> hey imbrandon
[10:25] <imbrandon> eclipse == java isnt it ?
[10:25] <uniq> yoshiznit123: my girlfriend thinks so too.:)
[10:25] <yoshiznit123> haha
[10:25] <imbrandon> hey hanasaki
[10:25] <hanasaki> in dapper 6.06 gnome... how do i change the program that runs when a desktop data file is clicked on
[10:25] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:25] <grimboy> imbrandon, No, it's written in java but can be used for loads of languages
[10:26] <jajaja-> how can i set myself to have write permissions to everything all the time
[10:26] <yallaman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16390 here it says that it is using mesa drivers it seems
[10:26] <jajaja-> right now I can read only
[10:26] <asathoor> hansaki >> i don't get what you mean...
[10:26] <patrick_king> hello i have a dell c400 in windows i can run guildwars but in ubuntu cedega doesnt pass all the tests it fails 3D Acceleration, Copy protection and OSS sound
[10:26] <hanasaki> asathoor: double click an icon on the destop.. a program runs to handle the datafile.
[10:26] <shana> hey
[10:27] <asathoor> jajaja >> just write sudo in the prompt
[10:27] <asathoor> hi shanaa
[10:27] <jajaja-> i tried that with no luck
[10:27] <shana> i have this problem cd'ing to a directory, it has a ~ in the name
[10:27] <grimboy> patrick_king, Have you installed the drivers for your gfx card?
[10:27] <shana> how do i get into it?
[10:27] <psilon> aaargh
[10:27] <psilon> could someone please tell me how to configure a serial mouse for xorg>?"
[10:27] <asathoor> have you tried something like # sudo apt-get install ... foo bar
[10:28] <garryF> yallaman Hmm, I looked at some paes. It says sometimes a reboot is necessary. I note that your card is listed among those supported.
[10:28] <hanasaki> asathoor: ?
[10:28] <patrick_king> grimboy: it is using ubuntus defult drivers as i dont know how to install the driver and its a laptop
[10:28] <pike_> jajaja-: you can do sudo -s or sudo -i for a root term until you exit
[10:28] <psilon> cheerz
[10:28] <yallaman> so reboot then
[10:28] <garryF> yallaman er paes = pages
[10:28] <psilon> ppl
[10:28] <psilon> thanks for all your help
[10:28] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:28] <grimboy> patrick_king, What's the brand of your graphics card?
[10:28] <garryF> yallaman Yep
[10:28] <shana> how do you cd a directory with ~ in the filename?
[10:28] <peritus> my atheros based wifi-card wont show up in network-manager. i can see it in ifconfig. how can i control it from network-manager?
[10:28] <patrick_king> intel
[10:28] <pike_> jajaja-: anything else you might as well just enable the root account
[10:29] <garryF> Invlude the ~ in the filename like it was any other character
[10:29] <yallaman> kk..brb
[10:29] <grimboy> shana, escape it with a \ like \~
[10:29] <asathoor> hanasaki >> foo means "something" and bar "something else" - it is traditional nerd lingo...
[10:29] <shana> i tried that, it doesn'ts work
[10:29] <garryF> Hmm
[10:29] <patrick_king> its a 32 MEG INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS
[10:29] <hanasaki> asathoor:  no i mean about the applicaitons used for data files clicked ont he desktop
[10:29] <shana> bash: cd: -~: invalid option
[10:29] <shana> ohh, wait a sec
[10:30] <shana> i know what's going on...
[10:30] <Canard> What is the directory you want to change to shana?
[10:30] <asathoor> hanasaki >> ok, I get your point :)
[10:30] <hanasaki> asathoor:  have an answer please?
[10:30] <shana> uhhh still doesn't work
[10:30] <shana> the directory is:
[10:31] <shana> -~mininova.org~- Blah Blah Blah
[10:31] <yanis> is there any easy way to install xgl at ubuntu6.10?
[10:31] <hanasaki> 6.10?  not 6.06? i thought the next version and xgl in it
[10:32] <pike_> yanis: you might have better luck in ubuntu-xgl
[10:32] <BSoDirl> anyone have problems compiling wine?
[10:32] <Canard> try \home\shana\\~mininova.org\~
[10:32] <revartj> how i can chage the resolution in ubuntu daper
[10:32] <revartj> ??
[10:32] <grimboy> revartj, xrandr
[10:32] <someothernick> anyone use hellanzb?
[10:32] <jajaja-> how can I enable root account
[10:32] <patrick_king> grimboy: its a 32 MEG INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS
[10:32] <asathoor> BSoDirl >> no, I just used apt-get
[10:32] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[10:33] <BSoDirl> dialup, and I had the tar.bz2 on my usb stick
[10:33] <garryF> I have a feeling that trying to find an easy way to get xgl working with so many possible variations on a system, is like trying to find an easy way to dig a ditch with a shovel. No mater what, careful reading might be required.
[10:33] <grimboy> patrick_king, Yeah, unfortunately I can't find any info on it. Maybe ask on the message boards?
[10:33] <BSoDirl> that's gonna take a couple hrs :S
[10:33] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:33] <shana> Canard, there is a hyphen and a tilde next to each other on each side, like -~
[10:33] <BSoDirl> you can bet the farm I'm gonna copy this to my usb stick too :>
[10:34] <fijam> hello. I have got an old ISA sound card, which was not decected by Ubuntu. How do I make it work?
[10:34] <garryF> skavenge: Hmmm, I've heard of this issue, very annoying that. If the device is listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you might be able to comment out the line.
[10:34] <Canard> \home\shana\\-\~mininova.org\~\-  ?
[10:34] <BSoDirl> oh well, I'll letcha know how it goes :)
[10:34] <revartj> grimboy, thank
[10:35] <someothernick> Anyone use hellanzb? I get errors something is off with my config file.
[10:35] <garryF> Some folks would not even be touching the pad and it would start zipping around clicking as it goes.
[10:35] <skavenge> garryF; haven't found a listing for the tap to click itself and don't wanna disable the whole touchpad as it works fine
[10:35] <revartj> grimboy, one think, for change a resolution to 1440x900 i put this--> xrandr -s 1440x900
[10:35] <pike_> jajaja-: sudo passwd and then type your user password then whatever root password you want to create you can disable again by typing like sudo passwd -l root (but i dont really suggest enabling)
[10:35] <patrick_king> hello does anyone know how i get GLX rendering on my INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS
 for my dell latitude c400
[10:35] <revartj> but it have problems
[10:35] <grimboy> revartj, Either that or the mode number.
[10:35] <mikere> Is there any difference between nvidia-glx and the nvidia driver install package from nvidia.com?
[10:36] <grimboy> revartj, What problems?
[10:36] <shana> Canard, still doesn't work.. and why are your path slashes backwards?
[10:36] <yallaman> still: admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:36] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:36] <skavenge> i've done alot of forum searching and it seems tap-to-click is a thorn in alot of peoples' side, especially alps touchpads heh
[10:36] <revartj> grimboy, in parameter size that i have put
[10:36] <danfg> you guys have any idea how i can control some app like mplayer in the background with some hotkeys?
[10:36] <garryF> skavenge Check under system/adminstration/device manager or preferences, maybe something there. I wish you the best of luck.
[10:37] <skavenge> thanks
[10:37] <Canard> shana, because I am just guessing based on what was said above by grimboy and the little I know about escape characters in C
[10:37] <pike_> danfg: what are you wanting to do?
[10:37] <garryF> yallaman: Hmmm, You do seem to have hardware accelleration. I wonder if there is a minor bug saying your dri isn't working when it is?
[10:37] <Canard> /home/shana/\-\~mininova.org\~\-
[10:37] <revartj> grimboy, you can understand me
[10:38] <danfg> pike_: exactly what i said, control mplayer with some hotkeys, but while i'm using other apps
[10:38] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ locate libGL:
[10:38] <yallaman>  /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa
[10:38] <yallaman> /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa
[10:38] <yallaman>   shouldnt it be nvidia driver and not mesa?
[10:38] <grimboy> revartj, Unfortunately not, sorry.
[10:39] <yallaman> im clueless now
[10:39] <mikere> How do I get to straight console mode with no X?  I was sure I used to use init 3.  init 1 won't work for installing the nvidia proprietary drivers.  Any hints?
[10:39] <Syco54645> can anyone recommend a good text to speech or screen reader
[10:39] <Syco54645> none that i am trying work
[10:39] <uniq> yallaman: no, the .xlibmesa extension is because they are disabled, and replaced by the nvidia ones.
[10:41] <shana> oh well, thanks for your help
[10:41] <kristian> !easyubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:41] <shana> bye
[10:41] <_Spire_> mikere: you could always try booting into X, then going to a console (ctrl-alt-1) and then stopping gdm (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop)
[10:41] <revartj> grimboy, in mode grapihs only i saw the resolution 640x480, I want change to resolution of 1440x900, how i can do
[10:41] <garryF> I note a lot of folks seem to be having issues or questiona about dri and the GeForce PCX 5750 card with ubuntu.
[10:41] <_Spire_> mikere: otherwise, I always thought it was init 2
[10:41] <garryF> googled for it.
[10:41] <grimboy> revartj, What is the output of xrandr?
[10:41] <yallaman> here is my xorg.conf it it helps: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16391
[10:42] <mikere> _Spire_: thanks, will give it a shot
[10:42] <revartj> grimboy, SZ:    Pixels          Physical       Refresh
[10:42] <revartj> *0    640 x 480    ( 217mm x 163mm )  *-25551
[10:42] <revartj> Current rotation - normal
[10:42] <revartj> Current reflection - none
[10:42] <revartj> Rotations possible - normal
[10:42] <revartj> Reflections possible - none
[10:42] <revartj> sorry
[10:42] <garryF> I'm going to look now
[10:43] <grimboy> revartj, What graphics card and monitor do you have?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> revartj: please dont paste in the channel
[10:43] <_Spire_> !pastebin
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:43] <rus2> is it possible to format an 80gb hard drive with FAT32?
[10:43] <_Spire_> rus2: the whole thing?
[10:43] <jajaja-> how can i login as root or change admin passwd
[10:44] <revartj> grimboy, I have to ati movility radeon 9700 in to lapto sony vaio-a217s
[10:44] <rus2> _Spire: Yeah, it's an extra. I want to read/write in both Ubuntu and Windows
[10:44] <mikere> jajaja: use sudo su from console to become root
[10:44] <_Spire_> jajaja-: try sudo first (sudo -s gets you to root)
[10:44] <mikere> jajaja: once in su, you can use passwd to change password
[10:44] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: its not advised to log into gnome/xfce/kde or any other desktop as root
[10:44] <Chetic> Does ATi's graphics drivers support hardware overlay?
[10:45] <_Spire_> rus2: you can make a new partition from the cli or gui? which do you prefer
[10:45] <grimboy> revartj, Hmm... Laptop support is poor, someone on the message boards might know.
[10:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> video overlay?
[10:45] <jajaja-> gnomefreak, I have only read writes and sudo or chown wont work to give me write access to files
[10:45] <rus2> _Spire: I don't care.
[10:45] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: are you system admin?
[10:45] <garryF> yallaman I'm sure, but might as well ask, you have tried this ....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then try the easybuntu again if that don't work.
[10:46] <revartj> grimboy, i don't understand
[10:46] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: like YUV2
[10:46] <_Spire_> rus2: well, if you want to do it from X, install gparted (gtk) or qtparted (kde) or just use sudo cfdisk from the bash prompt
[10:46] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: if you are you should know the password
[10:46] <_Spire_> rus2: personally, I like cfdisk the best
[10:46] <yallaman> ok..ill try
[10:46] <rus2> _Spire: cfdisk wasn't working for me. I would think I had written the partition table, but when I quit nothing would have changed.
[10:46] <jajaja-> yes I am system admin gnomefreak
[10:47] <rus2> _Spire: I'm not 100% sure the drive is good.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: what file are you trying to edit?
[10:47] <jajaja-> sources.list
[10:47] <rus2> _Spire: What can I use to check it?
[10:47] <_Spire_> rus2: check your drive?
[10:47] <rus2> _Spire_:yeah
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" when it asks for a password give it your user password
[10:47] <jajaja-> gnomefreak, when i do sudo -i it doesnt take me to root
[10:48] <shulman> I need to connect into my office with checkpoint VPN -- is there an equivilant piece of software for ubuntu?
[10:48] <jajaja-> ok ill try that gnonefreak
[10:48] <_Spire_> rus2: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdX'? (where X is whatever drive you're using - hda, hdb, etc
[10:48] <uniq> jajaja-: are you running theese commands as the user you added during installation?
[10:48] <jajaja-> uniq yes
[10:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic:  im not sure, all i know that with fglrx u can hava video overlay and opengl overlay ,
[10:48] <_Spire_> rus2: there's a possibility that it was created, but there isn't a filesystem on it, or there's something wrong
[10:49] <uniq> jajaja-: if not, you would need to be in the admin group to be able to run sudo.
[10:49] <jajaja-> gnomefreak, that command doesnt do anything
[10:49] <Chetic> ok n0ctuRnaL-fieNd.. all applications complain about me not having that support or some crap..
[10:49] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: if its not givi9ng you a # prompt your not typing in password right (or you tried to set su up)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: did you type it as i did
[10:49] <jajaja-> yes i did
[10:49] <gnomefreak> with the "
[10:49] <jajaja-> yes
[10:49] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: paste me what your prompt looks like atm
[10:50] <jajaja-> chris@ubuntu:~$
[10:50] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: ok type sudo -i
[10:50] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card" I mean what the hell :\
[10:50] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: does it prompt for a password?
[10:50] <yallaman> no error msg after using "easy" this time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16392 ..crosses fingers
[10:50] <darich> wow enlightenment is so god damn fast and snappy
[10:50] <jajaja-> no, its the same
[10:50] <gnomefreak> !language > darich
[10:51] <garryF> crosses toes too
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: type sudo apt-get update
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: does it than prompt you for password?
[10:51] <jajaja-> nope nothing
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: su than enter
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: what does it say?
[10:51] <jajaja-> there it goes
[10:51] <jajaja-> root@ubuntu /home
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: your password should not work with su
[10:52] <gnomefreak> good afternoon lilo
[10:52] <grimboy> Does anyone here run rtorrent?
[10:52] <jajaja-> is this setup gonna give me problems down the road the way it is...my final goal is setting mythtv on here
[10:53] <jajaja-> i can edit that file now gnomefreak
[10:53] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: with su and than your password did it give you root?
[10:53] <jajaja-> yes it gave me root gnomefreak
[10:53] <gnomefreak> it may now sudo will not work for you unless you make it
[10:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: try this aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[10:53] <gnomefreak> !root > jajaja-
[10:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: if that doesn help then i dont know
[10:53] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: read your pm from ubotu
[10:54] <jajaja-> ok thank you
[10:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic:how did u install the ati driver , and what video card do u have?
[10:54] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I have an ATi X800XL
[10:55] <Chetic> I installed it using the installer, today
[10:55] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:55] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:55] <yallaman>  still..sigh
[10:55] <grimboy> How do you install democracy player? The official .deb depends on an old version of libboost
[10:55] <garryF> Rats! Got me. OH check /var/log/xorg.0.log for clues.
[10:56] <Chetic> uh n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, I changed to the GL renderer instead and it's working just fine..
[10:56] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: though that is just for mplayer...
[10:56] <killaz> I'm looking for a great for php under linux...
[10:57] <someothernick> grimboy: did you try apt-get install -f
[10:57] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: how did u install the driver?
[10:57] <nickstaken> when i was using the ubuntu tool to set partition size, I thought the amount of space I was giving the new partition was the amount of space I was taking from the old.  Suffice to say,I have a very small partition and I want to expand it.  How do I do this now?
[10:58] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: with the installer!
[10:58] <garryF> yallaman: Is that card AGP, Pic Express, or Pci?
[10:58] <yallaman> pci express
[10:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: ok , i do it a different way , i use the driver thats already compiled for ubuntu
[10:59] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: oh I didn't know there was that... but this still works very well
[11:00] <garryF> Well, is the screensaver speed laggy or jerky? If not, maybe Ubuntu is using another way of accelleration just as good as dri.
[11:00] <yallaman> hmm..i dont find anything wrong in the log file
[11:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: yeah  , you do it with apt-get ,
[11:01] <garryF> I would suspect, that there is nothing wrong. Maybe dri isn't neecessary with pci express. I'd just google a bit and not worry about if for now. I'm going to look around too.\
[11:01] <yallaman> euohoria scrns is kinda laggy..yes
[11:02] <yallaman> glxgears is slow too..but i can see the fps tho
[11:02] <nickstaken> when i was using the ubuntu tool to set partition size, I thought the amount of space I was giving the new partition was the amount of space I was taking from the old.  Suffice to say,I have a very small partition and I want to expand it.  How do I do this now?
[11:02] <someothernick> gparted
[11:03] <yallaman> when doing "the video test" in cedega the glxgears window pops up ..and running pretty fast
[11:03] <nickstaken> gparted?
[11:03] <yallaman> i mean..i "cant" see fps rate when doing glxgeras
[11:04] <someothernick> !gparted
[11:04] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:04] <nickstaken> thanks
[11:04] <someothernick> np :)
[11:04] <galorin> I'm having troubles with a bcm4306 Belkin card.  I've tried the ndiswrapper route, with no luck, and the same for using the native drivers along the fwcutter route.  What to do next?
[11:04] <ElBrujo> i cant mount my pendrive from my desktop
[11:04] <farruinn> How does inkscape and sodipodi compare to the openoffice drawing module?
[11:04] <ElBrujo> it say
[11:05] <ElBrujo> Error: can't execute pmount
[11:05] <yallaman> reason why i need this working it that cedega game wont run without it i think
[11:06] <garryF> Hmm. Anyone know why Yallman's pci express GeForce PCX 5750 is not running with dri? I'm stumped! He had the dri loaded, his xorg looked fine, but his euphoria screensaver is jerkey.
[11:07] <garryF> Hmmm, there is a trial of cedega that you could try out to see if that is so.
[11:07] <yallaman> im using cedega 5.1 here..game install went fine..but it crashes when starting the game
[11:07] <diop> helo
[11:08] <ElBrujo> i cant mout my pendrive from my Desktop
[11:08] <diop> need help >>> grub error 24 and no booting at all
[11:08] <Iam8up> diop - what's it all say..
[11:08] <dipnlik> ElBrujo: you can try reinstalling pmount
[11:08] <enterusername> hi all
[11:09] <enterusername> how do you restrict the amount of print jobs that can be in the queue
[11:09] <enterusername> i tried MaxUserJobs and that just restricts the active jobs
[11:09] <enterusername> but you can still do multiple print queues to queue up to a nightmare
[11:09] <MrKeuner> hi, I have just bought a IBM thinkpad R52 w/ the default battery, swiped out MS Windows OS and installed ubuntu dapper on it. My question is that I feel like the battery runs out too fast. like less than 2 hours. Is that normal? How can I increase battery usage? thanks
[11:10] <diop> Iam8up ||loading grub 1.5 please wait ... and after || Error 24
[11:10] <ElBrujo> ok
[11:11] <Iam8up> diop - where it has root (hdx,x)
[11:11] <Iam8up> change root to rootnoverify
[11:11] <Iam8up> tell me if that fixes it
[11:11] <regionalp> How do I install Ident?
[11:12] <diop> i cannot start the computer
[11:12] <dapper-ipodder> anyone familiar with banshee running on dapper?
[11:12] <diop> i have an ntfs part and another one for dapper
[11:12] <nickstaken> someothernick: gparted has resize greyed out for some reason?
[11:12] <garryF> yallaman You might try making sure you don't have anything like bios shadowing on.
[11:12] <nickstaken> on the root drive
[11:12] <someothernick> nickstaken: use live cd
[11:13] <garryF> yallaman also take a look and see what dmesg says.
[11:13] <someothernick> you can't resize a mounted partition
[11:13] <nickstaken> ok, thanks
[11:13] <someothernick> :)
[11:13] <garryF> yallaman What version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:13] <diop> Iam8up can u tell me how ? with live cd
[11:13] <regionalp> I am running Dapper, would anyone mind helping me install Ident?
[11:13] <yallaman> 6.06 dapper
[11:13] <Pasteurized> hi all
[11:14] <Iam8up> diop - in that case i have no idea, sorry
[11:14] <diop> ok thx
[11:14] <MrKeuner> anything that I have to know before installing dapper on Apple Macbook?
[11:14] <Pasteurized> I've added a partition to my fstab, but it's not mounted at startup
[11:15] <Pasteurized> I've added this line -> /dev/hdb1 	/media/data	ext3  rw,auto,mode=0755  0  0
[11:15] <galorin> MrKeuner, did you see what your battery life was like before removing windows?
[11:16] <meandi> how do I set the ip address of my pc?
[11:16] <MrKeuner> galorin/ No I did not accept their eula
[11:16] <yallaman> dmesg didnt tell me much..dunno what i should look for..hehe ...but.. i know the direct rendering test worked before i installed xgl/compiz
[11:16] <Iam8up> meandi - administration -> networking
[11:16] <meandi> lamBup: thanks
[11:17] <galorin> MrKeuner, ok, that's fine by me.  Just would have given a better reference point.  Things like usage habits and such will really affect your batt life, plus the batt is probably not broken in yet.
[11:18] <dapper-ipodder> anyone familiar with banshee on dapper? i can see/listen to the files, just can't sync
[11:18] <galorin> MrKeuner, a few full charge and discharge cycles will increade your battery life as a start.  Then look at things like cpu throttling, hdd spindown, etc.
[11:19] <MrKeuner> galorin/ by full charge and full discharge should I really wait untill laptop turns itself off before charging? or last couple mins are OK?
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> MrK is that Nimh battery lithium ion or ?
[11:20] <MrKeuner> dapper-ipodder/ drag and drop the files on ipod and then press sync then select manual
[11:20] <whizz-> how do i upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[11:21] <galorin> MrKeuner, that really depends on the type of battery.  I can't remember the rules off the top of my head.  What kind of battery is it?
[11:21] <Flannel> whizz-: gksudo update-manager
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> MrKeuner: Nimh are not as prone to memory like the older batteries
[11:21] <MrKeuner> galorin/ Li-ion as far as I know. can I see it somewhere under /proc?
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mrh it will say on the battery
[11:22] <galorin> MrKeuner, it'll be written on the battery itself, easiest way to find out
[11:22] <Dial_tone> which bash config file do you set the editor in?
[11:23] <MrKeuner> galorin/ it is a Li-ion battery
[11:23] <garryF> say yallaman Hmmm, I'd remove the xgl/compiz unless you have an overriding reason not to.
[11:24] <garryF> yallaman I don' thave xgl/compiz and didnt install it because so many were getting issues after installin it.
[11:25] <galorin> MrKeuner, Good, they're tolerant batteries, so you dn't need to fully discharge them.  I'd reccomend also not keeping it at 100% charge, as that'll reduce it's runtime.
[11:25] <yallaman> ok..ill try to uninstall
[11:26] <MrKeuner> galorin/ do you recommend unplugging AC as soon as it is fully recharged?
[11:26] <MrKeuner> galorin/ or is there a setting for not keeping at 100% ?
[11:26] <garryF> yallaman good luck with that.
[11:26] <whizz-> Flannel: gksudo says my system is up-to-date, but at the same time a message pops up about a new release of ubuntu (There is a new release of Ubuntu available!
[11:26] <whizz->  - A new release with the codename 'dapper' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.)
[11:27] <Flannel> whizz-: what?  update manager should prompt you regarding the upgrade, in a box above the normal "these are your upgrades" with a button to upgrade.  Unless it has changed.
[11:27] <Warbo> Does anyone know why I might get "wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to install windoze Firefox?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Warbo: look for libwine-dev
[11:28] <Warbo> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:28] <gnomefreak> yw Warbo most .so files are in the -dev libs
[11:29] <regionalp> I am trying to install ident, and I get this:
[11:29] <regionalp> Reading package lists... Done
[11:29] <regionalp> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:29] <regionalp> E: Couldn't find package identd
[11:29] <regionalp> any idea how I can install ident?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> regionalp: apt-cache search identd  and please dont paste in the channel
[11:29] <regionalp> ok, sorry
[11:30] <regionalp> Can I paste a single line?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> regionalp: ident2 install that
[11:30] <gnomefreak> regionalp: if on dapper
[11:30] <regionalp> gnomefreak: ok, how do I do that?
[11:30] <regionalp> I am on dapper
[11:30] <gnomefreak> regionalp: sudo apt-get install ident2
[11:31] <gnomefreak> regionalp: make sure universe repo is enabled
[11:31] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I get the exact same error message
[11:31] <gnomefreak> regionalp: you need to enable universe repo
[11:31] <regionalp> gnomefreak: how do I ensure universe repo is enabled?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !repo
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about repo
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !repos
[11:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:31] <bet0x> argentina winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[11:32] <galorin> MrKeuner, charging circuits are pretty dumb things mostly.  I doubt there is, so pulling off AC is a good idea.  Laptops are designed to be portable.  Another option is to pull the battery out and just use it when off AC
[11:32] <gnomefreak> bet0x: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[11:32] <garryF> regionalp Yeah, pasting one line is fine.
[11:32] <MrKeuner> galorin/ i see. thank you very much, I was also thinking about removing the battery from laptop.
[11:33] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I have gone to those links, but I still do not understand how to enable universe repo.
[11:33] <MrKeuner> galorin/ I can remove the battery when it was at 100% charge level though, right?
[11:33] <garryF> !easysource > garryf
[11:33] <gnomefreak> regionalp: ok type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"   and paste the contents to that file on pastebin
[11:33] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ^^^ theres pastebin
[11:34] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Well that fixed one problem, but now it is asking for libncurses.so.4. I have installed a couple of ncurses dev packages but no luck
[11:34] <galorin> MrKeuner, no prob.  I had a laptop running ubuntu for ages, just went kaput on me, hdd and keyboard at the same time, and yes, you can remove the battery when it's at 100% or at whatever charge state it's at.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Warbo: ok give me a sec. are you on dapper?
[11:34] <regionalp> How do I enable universe repo?
[11:34] <Warbo> gnomefreak: yes
[11:34] <Warbo> gnomefreak: winecfg works though, which is weird
[11:34] <sn00p> How do I fix this in ubuntu , ./configure checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[11:35] <gnomefreak> regionalp: take the # away from all the repos that are deb http://   put a # infront of the deb cdrom ones
[11:35] <galorin> now I just need to get my wifi working.. back to google
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Warbo: can you name the -dev packages you installed for the libnurces?
[11:35] <Warbo> sn00p: Maybe add "--arch=i386" to the configure line (or something similar, try "./configure --help")
[11:35] <jackson> how do I set up a network between two linux computers connected to the same WiFi?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Warbo: libncurses5-dev?
[11:36] <Warbo> gnomefreak: libncurses5-dev and libncursesw5-dev
[11:36] <regionalp> gnomefreak: are you talking about editing a text file? Which text file?
[11:36] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Hang on, got to sort something out. Be back in a minute
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Warbo: did they pull in the non -dev packages?
[11:36] <sn00p> Warbo it says unrecognized option
[11:36] <gnomefreak> regionalp: the /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I checked and found that Wine is installed but I cannot find it in the drop down menus.. any suggestions
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: you wont
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: to run it you type wine file.exe
[11:37] <jackson> Jack_Sparrow: you have to use the terminal for wine
[11:37] <bijan> how can I make the xmodmap stuff permanent?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: and it should install/load that app
[11:37] <bijan> right now I have to enter it every login
[11:37] <garryF> and there is winecfg if I got the spelling right
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !wine
[11:37] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> garryF: it will tell you all good things there
[11:38] <garryF> gnomefreak :)
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks gnomefreak
[11:38] <gnomefreak> wy
[11:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:38] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:40] <jackson> how do I set up a network between two linux computers connected to the same WiFi?
[11:40] <garryF> !networking
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[11:40] <mario_> hey i need some quick help here
[11:40] <systest> Is there a config file to set static routes on boot/ifup?
[11:40] <Ackeubu_> I have a 4in1 card reader on my notebook. where can i find info on how to install it?
[11:40] <whizz-> Flannel: (or anybody else) i don't know if this helps, but here is a screenshot of the message i get when running update-manager: http://flypicture.com/bin/?id=r93xk67Y
[11:41] <mario_> i just installed the server edition of ubuntu but it never asked me to set up a root password
[11:41] <mario_> how can i change that
[11:41] <Ackeubu_> And how can i find what model my 4in1 card reader is?
[11:41] <mikere> jackson: it really dependson what you want to do with them.  If they are using dhcp they are probably on the same subnet
[11:41] <Flannel> mario_: ubuntu doesn't use a root password
[11:41] <bijan> how can I make my XModmap mousebuttonmapping permanent?
[11:41] <Flannel> !tell mario_ about root
[11:41] <Flannel> mario_: that page will describe everything you need to know
[11:41] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I found the file I need to edit.  Which is the most straightforward text editor?
[11:41] <garryF> !wireless > jackson
[11:41] <regionalp> I'm from a commandline presently
[11:41] <jackson> mikere: is there some kind of tool I can use to do that? I'm not really experienced with networks and I need it up kinda fast so I don't have much time to learn about them
[11:42] <klees> Is there an up to date XGL/Compiz for ATI install guide???
[11:42] <loststar4545> gedit is a good text editor
[11:42] <mikere> jackson: are they already on the WiFi?
[11:42] <bijan> how can I make my XModmap mousebuttonmapping permanent?
[11:42] <jackson> mikere: yep
[11:42] <gnomefreak> regionalp: gedit
[11:42] <mikere> jackson: do you just want to copy files from one to the other?
[11:42] <jackson> mikere: yeah
[11:43] <gnomefreak> regionalp: if you type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" it will pull it up for you to edit
[11:43] <Chetic> Help! TVTime gives me this message when I try to start it: "xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images."
[11:43] <mikere> jackson: one sec, I don't have any gui tools installed on this comp but will find one fast.
[11:43] <regionalp> ty
[11:44] <loststar4545> nano is a console text editor
[11:44] <jackson> mikere: thanks. if there's a bash tool that is relatively easy to use I could use that one as well
[11:44] <Flannel> whizz-: well, here's instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  If you can't get the graphical part to work (that page talks about a few things that might not be up to date, for you to be able to automatically install via GUI), that page also goes over the manual method
[11:45] <mikere> jackson: scp for a command line tool
[11:45] <genaus> !opera
[11:45] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser - Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[11:45] <klees> is there a way for me to change the font color on the desktop?
[11:45] <mikere> gftp for a gui app (many others as well, but this was first one that i came across)
[11:46] <PORDO> broccoli and cauliflower are the "same" plant...same species.
[11:46] <bijan> how can I make my XModmap mousebuttonmapping permanent?
[11:46] <PORDO> you shouldn't use xmodmap, for one.
[11:46] <klees> anyone???
[11:47] <PORDO> it's now xkb or something that ubuntu uses.
[11:47] <PORDO> bijan one sec...i wrote something about doing stuff like that on some forum.  lemme find it.
[11:47] <joJammin> what does this mean in reiserfs? and how can it be fixed?  - leaves all contents of which could not be saved and deleted 3
[11:47] <Tonren> Hey guys, which package should I download so that Nautilus will display Japanese characters?
[11:47] <yallaman> what is the -option to see FPS when doing glxgears?
[11:47] <RichiH> what options do i have for gps-based navigation? is someone using a bluetooth GPS device and has experience with this?
[11:47] <klees> glxgears -printfps
[11:48] <PORDO> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90040
[11:48] <PORDO> bijan  read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90040 <-- for a start.  surely the mouse mapping is part of that file somehow.
[11:48] <RawSewage> can I ask a Kubuntu question.  No one there can answer
[11:48] <Lynoure> RawSewage: yes, but there is also #kubuntu
[11:48] <spikeb> sure
[11:48] <adaran> i just installed the scilab package and was very suprised that some arabic script is the default font. anyone know a fix?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Warbo: sure
[11:48] <RawSewage> Lynoure, they dont know there
[11:49] <RawSewage> I want to restore the default KDE settings
[11:49] <Lynoure> RawSewage: hmm, missed your question there.
[11:49] <RawSewage> do you see it
[11:49] <garryF> yallaman: So is dri working now?
[11:49] <Lynoure> RawSewage: Just reconfigure kde, I think
[11:50] <Tonren> Hey guys, which package should I download so that Nautilus will display Japanese characters?
[11:50] <jajaja-> i am getting error 3 and 12 when i run dmesg in ivtv
[11:50] <morbidi> hello
[11:50] <klees> does anyone know how can i change the font color on the desktop?????
[11:50] <PORDO> did they un-uglify kde lately?
[11:50] <RawSewage> I did:    sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[11:50] <RawSewage> followed by:    sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[11:50] <morbidi> what libs do I have to install to devel opengl ?
[11:50] <RawSewage> but nothing changed
[11:50] <RawSewage> I even restarted the computer after
[11:51] <RawSewage> KDE ugly??
[11:51] <RawSewage> youre crazy
[11:51] <PORDO> hrm
[11:51] <celso> ola
[11:51] <PORDO> every time i've used it, it has these weird, old-looking windows-esque borders and stuff.
[11:51] <regionalp> gnomefreak:  When I Try to edit the file, it says it is write only.
[11:51] <PORDO> no matter what theme i try, it's just horrid.  horrid.
[11:51] <regionalp> gnomefreak:  When I Try to edit the file, it says it is read only.
[11:51] <PORDO> gnome at least allows you to make it look really modern and slick.
[11:51] <mikere> Fonts sure seem better since I upgraded to dapper
[11:51] <Lynoure> RawSewage: that's not quite what I meant. you said kde not konqueror. dpkg--reconfigure kde    might work, but you'd lose all your setting in kde, each and every
[11:51] <PORDO> like a mac.
[11:51] <klees> can anyone see what i write???
[11:52] <thespore> nope
[11:52] <PORDO> mikere really?!  weird.
[11:52] <klees> thought so
[11:52] <garryF> nope
[11:52] <PORDO> klees yup.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> regionalp: use gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"  <<< type that with the word use
[11:52] <LiteHedded> i'm having a weird samba issue. one of my directories doesn't respond when i click on it in my windows box
[11:52] <klees> does anyone know how can i change the font color on the desktop?????
[11:52] <mikere> PORDO: yah, strange bug, but I think can live with it
[11:52] <morbidi> what libs do I have to install to devel opengl in c++ ?
[11:52] <RawSewage> Lynoure, I just followed the FAQ at the site
[11:52] <garryF> Nothing found except maybe try different themes klees
[11:52] <PORDO> morbidi i dunno man, but that really sounds like something google could answer. :/
[11:52] <RawSewage> Lynoure, but it doesnt work
[11:53] <morbidi> PORDO: I wish
[11:53] <klees> =(
[11:53] <PORDO> morbidi have you done a search for packages containing the word opengl?
[11:53] <morbidi> yep
[11:53] <Lynoure> RawSewage: I don't know what FAQ you mean... Do you mean you did that command already?
[11:53] <regionalp> gnomefreak: -bash: use: command not found
[11:53] <PORDO> sudo apt-cache search opengl | grep dev
[11:53] <bhamgray> Greets
[11:53] <gnomefreak> regionalp: without the word use
[11:53] <gnomefreak> regionalp: type the following line
[11:53] <RawSewage> Lynoure, http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[11:54] <gnomefreak> regionalp: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:54] <regionalp> k, ty
[11:54] <regionalp> gnomefreak: "warning, cannot open display
[11:54] <gnomefreak> regionalp: it will open
[11:55] <blue_> hello
[11:55] <gnomefreak> gnu2it2: when it does we will go through it
[11:55] <regionalp> I Was using vi and trying to edit it, but it wouldn't let me edit it because it was read only even when I put an ! after the write and quit command
[11:55] <Lynoure> RawSewage: I'm confused now, you just want to restore konqueror settings?
[11:55] <Raito> So I got qtparted, but the "resize partition" option of my windows partition is greyed out. I want to take space from a windows ntfs partition and put it on ubuntu what do I do?
[11:55] <RawSewage> Lynoure, Kubuntu removes several Konqueror features to make it simpler and user-friendly for the average user
[11:55] <RawSewage> Lynoure, I want to restore those features
[11:56] <mario_> also what is the command to change the ssh port in console mode
[11:56] <garryF> Using linux to resize an ntfs partition is likely unsafe.
[11:56] <blue_> ya I agree
[11:56] <Lynoure> RawSewage: Ah. Cannot help you there. Never done that and I don't even know which those features are
[11:56] <blue_> back up and reinstall win to your needs
[11:57] <mikere> mario_: if you wish to change the port that an ssh server is listening on, you have to change it's conf file
[11:57] <garryF> yallaman So hoe is it working now?
[11:57] <Jerr> hey, I want to have it so that the ubuntu box (does not have display) has a different resolution than 640x480 or whatever it is now when I connect with VNC. In the resolution howto thing (by !resolution), it talks about screens and refresh rate, but all I want is for it to send over a display over VNC
[11:57] <BIAF> hi, anyone help me with send mail issue in webmin, getting error : Failed to build configuration, NONE:0: m4: ERROR: EOF in string
[11:57] <mikere> mario_: and then restart the server
[11:57] <RawSewage> Lynoure, one of the features is allow you to automatically save configuration for each folder, for exampe, Image folder is Icon view, document folder is treeview, etc
[11:57] <klees> what packages do i need to compile source??
[11:58] <avis`> klees, build-essential
[11:58] <regionalp> gnomefreak: you seem like a nice enough guy.. could I just give you root and perhaps you could install it? ; )
[11:58] <klees> thx
[11:58] <gnomefreak> regionalp: no ty
[11:58] <regionalp> heh
[11:58] <regionalp> k
[11:59] <Dial_tone> everybody is a nice on the net until you steal their cyber gf
[11:59] <Lynoure> RawSewage: Still, cannot help you right now, without looking things up myself and it's 1:00 my time here --> husband telling me that it is sleep time. But it very well might be that #kubuntu just missed what you wanted. And failing that, you could also ask the people who wrote the FAQ
[11:59] <BaKKaR> oftopic
[11:59] <BaKKaR> offtopic
[11:59] <ToHellWithGA> hey there.  my apache installation seems to be working, however i can't figure out how to get a directory to allow browsing
[11:59] <patrick_king> hello how do i test 3d acceleration in ubuntu dapper
[11:59] <BaKKaR> ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Knome> #apache