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soulriderohh12:02
soulridersee, it didnt make any sense :P12:02
mcrandello"Default Applications"12:02
Raitogalorin: I thought so too but someone here told me that you can >_>12:03
mcrandelloagain it's probably somewhere else as well12:03
soulriderit makes sense to dot hat with konq if youre talking about opening files yes12:03
galorinRaito, it can resize FAT, but I've not heard anything to the contrary.  A quick google should yield an answer to that roblem.. lemme check12:04
soulriderkk, someone post an URL plix :P12:04
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mcrandelloI guess the workaround from the sound server fatal error is to install alsa-oss and use the OSS soundsystem12:04
kbloghow do i install gnome desktopa again, please?12:04
kblogif i do it, it will not harm kde, right?12:04
mcrandellohttp://oralse.cx12:04
mcrandellokblog: try sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop12:05
soulriderno thanks :P12:05
galorinRaito, might be able to resize from within Windows, and Suse claims to be able to do it, might be proprietary though, knowing them. ;-)12:05
Raitogalorin: But thing is, the installer was able to resize NTFS, so why can't an app do it?12:05
soulriderwww.google.com12:05
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mcrandellono really, it's worksafe12:05
soulrideryay, works!12:05
RaitoI tried from within windows and it didn't work >_<12:05
juanhi there12:05
mcrandello:)12:06
soulrider:] 12:06
galorinah, I'm stuck then.. sorry.12:06
soulriderkk, a couple more questions12:06
soulriderwhere cn i see a list of allt he programs installed12:06
mcrandellokblog: and you can have both desktops on there, the settings files are all saved seperately from each other12:06
soulridersay i remove the kontact button adn i wanna run kontact but there are no shortcuts12:06
RawSewageare there any other Kubuntu experts awake12:06
juanDo you know how to compile something if there is no ./configure ? (I'm trying to compile gtk-qt from the CVS)12:06
mcrandelloalthough some desktop shortcuts might not work in the other DE12:06
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kblogthanx. i already started it :)12:07
mcrandellojuan try running "automake" in the base source file directory12:07
mcrandellolong shot but it might work12:07
RawSewageThis FAQ doesnt work ============>   http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror12:07
RawSewagesudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror12:07
RawSewagesudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc12:07
RawSewageDoes not work12:07
juanmcrandello: It tells me "C++ source seen but `CXX' is undefined"12:08
mcrandellois there an "INSTALL" or "README" in the dir?12:08
juanthere is a "configure.in", but no configure...12:08
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juanYes, there is an INSTALL. It states that it's enought with ./configure make make install12:09
juanBut it's wrong :(12:09
mcrandellosounds like someone broke cvs12:09
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juanmaybe.. but perhaps there is another way to compile it..12:09
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h3sp4wnIs autogen.sh there ?12:10
juanAfter all there is a configure.in (whatever this means)12:10
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juanNo, there isn't a .sh in the dir..12:11
h3sp4wnwhere you getting it from ?12:11
h3sp4wnIf its from cvs there is no guarantee at any one time it will be in a working state12:12
DrBairanyone else out there using konq 3.5.3 having javascript issues?12:12
juanHere are the CVS instructions: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gtk-qt12:12
soulrider..uhm, thats the shortcut that does hte same as ctr+aly+del in widnwos ?12:12
juanIt's a small project. It takes less than 5 seconds to download.12:13
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h3sp4wnSo that would make gtk apps work with qt themes properly ?12:14
juanh3sp4wn: yes.12:14
mcrandelloI know this one...12:14
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mcrandellothere's a package already built for dapper12:15
juanI reported a bug today in the morning and the maintainer just fixed it in a matter of hours.12:15
mcrandelloah12:15
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juanToo bad I can't compile the damn thing12:15
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MartinArgit is a way to install gaim 2.0 ?12:16
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crimsun_juan: what's the issue?12:16
juancrimsun: there is no configure to be run...12:17
crimsun_juan: no, the bigger issue12:17
juanbigger issue ? With qt-gtk ?12:17
mcrandellothis is a real long shot-12:17
crimsun_what are you trying to do?12:17
crimsun_compile gtk2-engines-gtk-qt?12:17
juanYes12:17
juanthe latest cvs version12:17
mcrandellodownload the current source package, then mv the cvs files overwriting the ones you unzipped12:18
crimsun_apt-get build-dep gtk2-engines-gtk-qt12:18
yangohi...12:18
juancrimsun: it's buggy12:18
mcrandelloassuming the latest source release has a configure script it may work12:18
crimsun_&& apt-get install automake1.8 autoconf libtool12:18
h3sp4wnjuan: All you need to do is cp Makefile.cvs Makefile - then run make and it will generate ./configure12:18
yangowhere do you configure the time as GMT or not GMT?12:18
juancrimsun: even the latest compiled version is buggy12:18
crimsun_juan: read carefully. That installs build-dependencies.12:18
RawSewageHow can I restore the defaullt KDE settings to Konqueror.  I followed this FAQ, but it didnt work:  http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror12:19
soulrideri got a question, when you insatll something, where does it go to ?12:19
soulriderand doe xecutable files ahve an extension similar to .exe or soemthign ?12:19
juanaha12:19
mcrandelloRawSewage: this will clear ALL kde settings and history: rm -rf .kde12:19
mcrandellootherwise look for a dir under .kde probably in share/apps for konqueror12:20
yangosoulrider: it doesn't. executables have the x permission bit set...12:20
RawSewagemcrandello, I want to restore the KDE default functionality.  Kubuntu removes several Konqueror features to make it simpler12:20
mcrandellooh12:20
yangosoulrider: if you do ls -la file and it has exes like: r-xr-x--- or something like that it is12:20
soulriderthnaks yango12:21
soulrideralso, when i rn a deb package12:21
soulriderit installs a program right12:21
soulriderbut where does it istall it to ?12:21
juancrimsun: done. How this is going to help me ?12:21
mcrandelloif you find out let me know too, I personally like complexity :)12:21
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mcrandellosoulrider: kpackage will list where all the files go12:21
crimsun_juan: if you checked gtk-qt from cvs/svn, there may be a bootstrap or autogen script. Now execute it.12:21
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yangosoulrider: you can use dpkg -L <package-name>12:22
soulriderk, thanks12:22
mcrandellosoulrider: also you can type "which command" to find out specifically where the executable went12:22
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mcrandello(replace "command" with the name of the program)12:22
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soulriderk, thanks a lot12:22
RawSewagemcrandello, ok12:23
driz_hello12:23
yangohey, does anyone know how to configure timezones + motherboard time?12:23
juancrimsun: there are no scripts in the dir12:23
mcrandelloalso "whereis" is a good CLI command12:23
soulriderthats great12:23
soulriderso lets say i installed opera12:23
soulrideran di delete the files12:23
crimsun_juan: where is gtk-qt's svn/cvs?12:23
soulriderjust like that12:23
mcrandelloyango: the k menu->system settings-> the bottom line "administration" and then date&time12:23
soulriderif i type opera in console, will i get an error or will ti just not work12:24
soulriderlike, will my comp still think its there ?12:24
mcrandellowill probably just say bash:opera:command not found12:24
juancrimsun: cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/gtk-qt login12:24
juancrimsun: download the gtk-qt-engine module12:24
yangothanks mcrandello12:24
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yangowhere did my ntpdate configuration go? I had it running with breezy, upgraded to 6.06 LTS and now it doesn't work12:26
andy_can someone help me configure wine?12:26
crimsun_juan: aclocal && automake && autoheader && autoconf12:26
crazy_penguingood night everyone. sleep well :)12:26
soulriderbye, you too12:26
RaitoHow do you delete Kubuntu? I want to delete and then reinstall so that I can reset the partition tables, I can't find any other way to do it with an NTFS partition12:26
rouwho can tell me the most convinient file manager for kde?12:27
crimsun_you'll automatically delete Kubuntu when you choose to use a new partitioning scheme afresh12:27
RawSewagemcrandello, I finally found the answer12:27
driz_can i get the pastebin link12:27
roui have tried mc , but it works weird12:27
driz_?12:28
RaitoSo if I pop in the Kubuntu CD and reinstall it will automatically detect another Kubuntu on the system and delete it?12:28
andy_who can help me to ussse wine to run a program?12:28
mcrandelloRawSewage: do tell :)12:28
juancrimsun: configure.in:44: required file `config.h.in' not found12:28
juancrimsun: did it work in your machine ?12:28
rou<mcrandello> is your message for me ? :)12:28
RawSewagemcrandello, the first post in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7994112:29
mcrandellorou: nope, which message?12:29
crimsun_juan: no, I don't have kdelibs/base dev packages installed.12:30
rou]  <mcrandello> RawSewage: do tell :12:30
h3sp4wnjuan: cp Makefile.cvs Makefile && make - worked for me libbonobo2-dev libbonoboui2-dev are recommended (The fixed colour highligting - for the Next colour scheme would be worth having)12:30
RawSewagerou,  , the first post in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7994112:30
mcrandelloheh12:31
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crimsun_h3sp4wn: configure needs to be generated from configure.in, however, which means satisfying the autotools dependencies12:31
h3sp4wncrimsun: When you run that makefile it generates configure12:32
mcrandelloVMsize in the process table is how much mem something is taking up correct?12:32
crimsun_h3sp4wn: using the admin/ directory. I see.12:32
crimsun_someone send a patch upstream fixing README for the love of $deity12:32
yangois there a deb package for skype?12:32
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crimsun_yango: last I checked, yes, though I have no idea how it integrates with Dapper.12:33
yangosadly it seems there's no webcam support version, and ekiga can't work with windows programs :-(12:34
juanh3sp4wn: It worked !!12:34
juanh3sp4wn, mcrandello, crimsun: a lot of thanks !12:34
h3sp4wnjuan: Did it say it recommends libbonobo2-dev ?12:34
mcrandelloglad it worked :) time to submit anotherbug, "README is borken"12:35
juanh3sp4wn: I didn't see it12:35
h3sp4wnjuan: Probably means you have it already then12:35
linuxbambihi, i need help. my screensaver does not start automaticley after my kubuntu freezed and i had to reboot it12:36
mcrandelloartsd shouldn't be using 81 megs there should it?12:36
driz_can anyone help me install flash ?12:36
juanmcrandello: yes, you are right. I'm going to do it now, before I forget it.12:36
mcrandello:)12:37
mcrandellosee if alsa likes 'threaded open sound system' any better12:38
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mcrandellodown to 20 megs, that's a bit better I guess12:38
crimsun_you mean "if arts likes ..." I presume.12:39
mcrandelloerm yeah, arts12:39
crimsun_you really should just disable arts if you're that worried :)12:39
mcrandellowell I got a fatal error this last time logging in, and that worried me :)12:39
linuxbambisomebody knows what daemon i have to have started so my screensaver can start automaticley?12:40
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mcrandellolinuxbambi: it's set to start automatically in the desktop properties?12:42
linuxbambiof course it is12:42
linuxbambiit worked fine, but then my os froze and i had to pull the plug12:42
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mcrandellostrange12:42
soulriderhow do i see a list opf available commands i got for a program ?12:43
pandresComo Actualizo los paquetes en Kubuntu, Graficamente no se puede y con la consola me dice que no hay nada para actualizar12:43
linuxbambiafter the reboot, it did not work any more12:43
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azzcoHello12:43
mcrandellonow firefox is taking up like 90 megs of memory and not delivering a window to the desktop :(12:44
azzcookay I've got a really noobish question here...how do I run a .sh file? I'm trying to install unreal tournament 200412:44
pandresAlgun Latino????12:44
mcrandelloeven after nuking the .mozilla dir12:44
mcrandelloazzco: ./file.sh12:44
azzcodidn't work mcrandello12:44
RawSewageor, right click it, and make it executable12:44
soulriderpandres:12:45
soulriderque necesitas saber?12:45
mcrandellothat's in the same dir as the file of course. If it says permission denied then chmod 755 file.sh first12:45
azzcosudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied12:45
azzcooh12:45
azzconever used chmod before12:45
mcrandello7 means anyone can read it 5 and 5 mean only you can write and execute it12:45
azzcois it possible to chmod a file on a CD?12:46
mcrandelloguess not12:46
RawSewageKDE Components -  Session Manager - Start with an Empty Session FTW12:46
azzcoso you recommend me to copy the file to my desktop and chmod?12:46
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mcrandellothat might work, hopefully you won't have to copy the whole CD over first to get it to run12:47
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mcrandellomaybe try "sh file.sh"12:47
azzcohmm I could do that...12:47
mcrandellolooks like that might do it12:48
azzcoin/out wrong (directly translated from swedish)12:48
linuxbambiis KSSL-daemon needed for screensavers to start automaticley?12:49
linuxbambiwhich component is needed to start screensavers automaticley?12:49
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miflipsalut a tous :)12:50
juanHmm, yet another bug: the current version works great with SWT applications (eclipse, azureus, etc) but now it crashes firefox12:50
miflip(hi guyz)12:51
driz_can anyone help me install flash12:51
driz_bonjour12:52
miflipBonjour driz_12:52
azzcodriz_ what flash?12:52
miflipu mean plug in or software ?12:52
driz_macromedia12:52
pandresAlgun Latino?????12:52
driz_comment ca vas?12:52
azzcoto watch or create?12:52
mcrandelloyou want flash in webpages, no?12:52
miflipbien driz_ merci :)12:53
azzcohttp://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/installing-macromedia-flash-player.html12:53
driz_yes?12:53
azzcolook at that link12:53
juanpandres: latino?12:53
driz_merci azzco12:53
azzcoNP ;)12:53
driz_lol thank you12:53
miflipdid you guyz got some problems with iiyama lcd under kubuntu btw ?12:54
pandresJuan, tengo problema para instalar Kubuntu12:55
miflipi miss some lines on top when im not in graphic mode12:55
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mifliphi slougi12:55
azzcoI still can't install unreal tournament 2004 can't drag the install.sh to desktop either...12:55
azzcois there maybe something wrong with CD?12:56
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miflipu got a real UT2K4 CD ?12:56
azzcoyupp12:56
azzcoshouldn't I12:56
miflipyea ^12:56
MartinArgquestion: i'm usin wvdial for dial up connections, whats the way to disconnect from internet without press CTRL-C in the terminal?12:56
miflip:)12:56
azzcogot it really cheap ;)12:56
miflipyea but it's still good ;)12:56
pandresJuan Amigo LAtino???12:56
azzcohehe I prefer UT 9912:56
azzcogot that CD at a freinds house though =/12:57
miflipwhen u mean can't drag the install.sh ...12:57
azzcocan't copy12:57
miflipu mean u can't copy it to ur desktop ?12:57
azzcoit wont "read"12:57
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miflipk12:57
linuxbambihey everybody. i need help12:57
miflipu tried to copy it in terminal mode ?12:57
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mifliphey linuxbambi12:58
azzconope not yet12:58
azzcobrb ;)12:58
azzco..one sec...12:58
miflipcd /mnt/cdrom then cp install.sh etc etc12:58
azzcoI don't know what commands to use lol12:58
miflipk ^^12:58
miflipopen a term first12:58
linuxbambimy screensaver does not start any more automaticley after i had to reboot my os. i can test the screensaver, but it won't start automaticley12:58
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linuxbambiwhat can i do?12:58
azzcoyeah got a term open miflip12:58
azzcogot it in my cd folder aswell ;)12:59
miflipk12:59
mifliprun install.sh from there ?12:59
mifliptype ./install.sh12:59
azzcotried...that's why it's in there ;)01:00
miflipok loool sorry01:00
azzco"access denied"01:00
miflipand nothing hapend or ?01:00
miflipk01:00
mifliptried a sudo ?01:00
azzcoyupp01:00
azzcothen it says access denied in english insted of swedish;)01:00
miflipdamn01:00
mifliploool01:00
miflipbig deal01:00
azzconow how do I copy it?01:01
pandresWhats Roots Default Password at Kubuntu Instalation?01:01
miflipmaybe if u can copy your whole CD into a rep on your HDD01:01
miflipcopy command = cp01:01
driz_the same as your own password pandres01:02
azzcohuh?01:02
miflipcp install.sh /home/your_user_name01:02
juanpandres: Lo eliges tu cuando lo instalas01:02
azzcoahh01:02
azzcoI'll try that ;)01:02
miflipthat will copy the install.sh file into your home dir01:02
juanpandres: No s si est bien visto hablar aqu en otros idiomas...01:02
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pandresestoy en ubuntu-es, pero nadie responde01:02
juanIs it ok to use other languages in this channel?01:02
driz_nice i need to learn spanish01:02
linuxbambiI can't get my screensaver to start automaticley after 1 min.01:02
pandres#ubuntu-es untete juan01:02
MartinArgquestion: i'm usin wvdial for dial up connections, whats the way to disconnect from internet without press CTRL-C in the terminal?01:02
azzcocp: reads "linux-installer.sh": In/out-error01:03
miflipuh damn01:03
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miflipmm...01:03
juandriz: come to ubuntu-es then :)01:03
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miflipazzco: did u tried to install it on another comp ?01:03
azzcoI could see if it can read the same file on CD 2 to see if it's something wrong on CD01:04
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azzcoI did install it on this with windows before01:04
miflipyea nice idea01:04
azzcoI think that the linux-installer.sh file might be damaged01:04
driz_juan: lol but i wont understand anything... make sure you add the underscore to my name so i can see it01:04
miflipis there a LINUX version of UT or ...01:04
miflipi got the UT CD myself but its only for Windowz01:04
azzcowell you mean UT 99?01:05
miflipUT200401:05
azzco:O01:05
juandriz_: Ok :)01:05
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azzcoI'll do an ls command and copy ;)01:05
miflipk01:05
azzcoAnimations   ForceFeedback  linux-installer.sh  Setup.exe  Textures01:05
azzcoAutoRun.inf  Help           Manual              Sounds     Web01:05
azzcoBenchmark    KarmaData      Maps                System01:05
miflipbuzzzz01:06
miflipwrong answer01:06
miflipthis is a WIndows cd u got here01:06
azzco=/01:06
miflip(setup.exe wont run under linux huhu)01:06
miflipbut...01:06
azzcofirst row third item ;)01:06
mcrandellowell if u got wine installed ;P01:06
gnomefreakmiflip: you need wine for exe files01:06
driz_juan: cool :-D01:06
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miflipu can still play UT2004 under linux i thnink01:06
azzcostill first row third item :P01:06
azzco"linux-installer.sh"01:06
azzcothe item next to Setup.exe :P01:07
miflipoh yea sorry01:07
miflipmiss that one :p01:07
azzcohehe ;) blinded by windows01:07
miflipmm01:07
mifliplol01:07
azzcoI do have wine installed...but I don't trust it =/01:07
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miflipu tried to do a more install.sh ?01:08
miflipto see what's inside ?01:08
azzcomore install.sh?01:08
yetihi - how can i tell kubuntu not to start gam_server? it makes everything that's got to do with file handling so damn slow it's not funny01:08
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ubuntuhola a todos01:08
mifliphola01:09
SmrtJustinyeti: is it a program starting on boot?01:09
ubuntuhola01:09
yetiSmrtJustin: dunno, it's not in the runlevels01:09
yetiSmrtJustin: i guess kde/konqi starts it as a dep, but i cant prove it01:09
pandresubuntu Latino vente pa aca#ubuntu-es01:09
SmrtJustinyeti: oh..., I was going to suggest sysv-rc-conf, but if its not starting in a runlevel thats not going to help.01:10
miflipso azzco what's inside install.sh ?01:10
miflipcan u read it ?01:10
yangohas anyone else a dlink usb wireless plug?01:10
azzcoone sec ;)01:10
miflipk01:10
azzco...you know what...I was able to read it before on my other cdrom drive01:10
azzcomight be that...01:11
yetiSmrtJustin: mayne worth a try nevertheless - maybe i just didn't find it in the runlevels - what's that sysv-rc-conf?01:11
SmrtJustinyeti: its a program that allows you to control what starts on what runlevels01:11
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miflipyea may be01:11
gemidjyis there Tango icons package for Kubuntu?01:11
SmrtJustinyeti: if it is a program starting on one of the runlevels it will show up in there, and you simply take it out of the runlevel(s) its in and it won't start anymore01:12
miflipu should try it on another linux comp if you can01:12
miflipbut maybe the CD got a problem01:12
SmrtJustinyeti: that program will allow you to "uncheck" it if its starting01:12
yetiSmrtJustin: ah okay - well, it's not in there, not a runlvl problem it seems01:12
azzcoor maybe the cdrom driver ;)01:12
panut01:12
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SmrtJustinyeti: well sorry then, I'm not familiar with that program so I can't really help you, sorry.01:13
kuzmastercan somone please tell me why there isnt any sound for flash movies in firefox?01:13
yetithanks anyways justin01:13
miflipI/O yea ur right01:13
SmrtJustinnp01:13
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azzcomiflip: it's able to read the install.sh via gui...doesn't launch reads ;)01:14
miflipgui ?01:14
azzcoyeah not terminal01:14
miflipk01:14
azzcowhat should I be looking for?01:14
azzcotargetdir?01:15
miflipuh ...dunno01:15
miflipyea targetdir01:15
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azzco...what happens if I cope the whole thing and inserts it in terminal?01:15
miflipuhh01:16
miflipno01:16
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miflipcreate a new file01:16
miflipand then paste the whole thing inside01:16
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miflipcreate a new file-> vi UT_install01:16
mcrandelloyeti: you might be able to install libfam0 and remove libgam001:16
miflipthen paste the text inside01:16
mcrandellohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-74908.html01:16
azzcovi UT_install?01:16
miflipvi01:16
miflipthe text editro01:17
mcrandellois some more info on gam_server and it's evilness01:17
miflipeditor01:17
miflipor you can use any text editor01:17
gemidjyis there Tango icons package for Kubuntu?01:17
azzcokwrite01:17
mcrandellopico01:17
miflipyeah as u like01:17
yetimcrandello: thanks, i'll definitely try that01:17
miflipi use vi because vi is on every unix like ;)01:18
miflipvery usefull :)01:18
mcrandelloemacs ;p01:19
miflipmaybe u can try to copy the whole CD onto your hdd in a rep01:19
azzcookay miflip...I chmoded it to 755 and ran it01:19
miflipemacs is good too ^^01:19
miflipk01:19
mcrandellobah you're no vi-warrior >:(01:19
azzcogot a weird answer about md5 checksum01:19
kuzmasterafter running blast, how do i make everything back to normal01:19
mifliparf01:19
mcrandelloheh01:20
kuzmasterwithout the holes in my app's01:20
azzcosomething to be botherd by?01:20
miflipmd5 checksum is to insure the install file has not been modified01:20
kuzmaster???????01:20
azzco...01:20
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miflip:/01:20
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kuzmasterill re-start k01:20
c0lLwho develops all the audio drivers?01:20
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yetimcrandello: *sigh* installing libfam0 will delete nearly the whole system01:21
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mcrandellowell damn01:21
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yetimcrandello: why do they use gamin if they know it's broken? :( afaik all distros i've used so far used fam01:21
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miflipwell anyway it wont solve the problem as you can't copy the files :/01:22
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azzcookay guys I give up for tonight =/01:22
azzcothx for the help though01:22
mcrandelloyeti: no idea01:22
miflipmaybe you can burn a backup of your CD01:22
miflipand use the backed up copy01:22
miflipinstead of the real one01:22
miflipmight solve the I/O problem01:22
azzcoyeah maybe01:23
yetimh, killing it with -SIGTERM doesn't work either, it's immediately restarted01:23
miflip(if the problem come from the CD)01:23
azzcowel I'll give it a try but I'll logoff from the IRC ;)01:23
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miflipk have a good night ;)01:23
azzcogood night ;)01:23
miflipbye everyone i'm off to bed too ;)01:23
miflip++01:23
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kuzmasterhow do i run applactions that arnt in my kmenu, like aa3d01:29
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jarotoo bad, now i have keytouch installed.. and I can use the FunctionKeys to control volume.. but no other keys work yet01:33
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mcrandellokuzmaster: first off "sudo apt-get kappfinder"01:35
mcrandellothat will help you find non kde apps and add them to the menus01:35
mcrandelloalso you can right-click the Desktop and "run command" or run them from the console01:36
mcrandello(erm xterm)01:36
kuzmasterok01:36
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pedroHi..01:37
pedroI install KDE-dektop and didn't works.01:38
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pedrohelp -01:38
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jarotoo bad, now i have keytouch installed.. and I can use the FunctionKeys to control volume.. but no other keys work yet01:38
pedrojaro..01:38
pedrohave you install kde-desktop?01:38
jarosure01:40
jaroi guess so01:40
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jarohm, though i cant find any such package01:40
pedroBut your graphics dekstop is differente?01:40
jarohave you got kubuntu-desktop installed ?01:41
mcrandellokuzmaster: also one thing I use is the "run command" applet, it sets in the taskbar and youcan type commands in it01:41
pedrocuz my ubuntu is the same..01:41
mcrandelloit's a lot faster than using the menusif you know the name of the app01:41
jarosame as what ?01:41
kuzmasterok01:41
pedrothe difference is it have now some new menus added01:41
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pedroas old ubunut01:41
pedroubuntu01:41
jarodid you switch from ubuntu to kubuntu ?01:42
pedrothat's what a wanted to do.01:42
pedroaptitude install kde-desktop...01:43
pedrothat was what I did.01:43
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jaroyou have to install kubuntu-desktop01:43
pedroI did that, I guess01:43
jarothen you should be able to boot in kde01:43
jarobest way of course is to install kubuntu from CD01:43
kuzmasteri turned off automatic mounting of my flash drive, so i how do i manually mount it?01:44
jarokuzmaster: is it in the /etc/fstab ?01:44
kuzmasterits saying it not there01:45
jarokuzmaster: it would be something like:  mount /dev/sda01:45
kuzmastermount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:45
kuzmasterthanx01:45
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jarohm01:45
kuzmasternope, diddnt work01:45
jaroi guessed01:46
kuzmastermount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:46
jaroyou must turn automount on again01:46
jaroor something01:46
kuzmasteryeah i know01:46
jaroi dont know01:46
RawSewageHelpful TIP OF THE DAY:  Make a text file.  Whenever you change something, write down  how you did it01:46
RawSewagethen next time you have to install, you dont have to spend 2 hours looking up the information again01:47
kuzmasterRawSewage, lol, youre right, if i did do that i would've prevented a lot of painfull nights01:47
mcrandelloalso save all those packages you installed but didn't apt-get to a CD01:47
RawSewagekuzmaster, That was a random tip, not implying anything to anyone01:48
RawSewageI just thought of doing that01:48
RawSewagethought I'd share it01:48
imbrandonmcrandello, ipods are great for that ;)01:48
mcrandelloalso save the text file somwhere other than the partition you're reinstalling on ;)01:48
kuzmasterRawSewage, but its still 100% right01:49
RawSewageyeah01:49
RawSewageI need to start doing that01:49
mcrandelloanyone else on with a toshiba laptop and ATI graphics card?01:51
RawSewageI think so01:51
RawSewageI have Kubuntu on my Toshiba01:51
mcrandelloyou using te fglrx drivers or the radeon and if so how did you get 3d to not freeze up?01:52
driz_is there limewire for linux01:52
driz_?01:52
c0lLwhich 3d are you talking about?01:52
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jarohmm01:52
c0lLdriz_: there is limewire for linux01:52
mcrandellothe fglrx dri which causes the USB to choke and die01:52
RawSewageNo, I didnt do anything fancy with it01:52
c0lLdriz_: its coded in java01:53
jarohmm01:53
jaroi dont understand01:53
mcrandelloRawSewage: I'd avoid the fglrx drivers for a while :)01:53
jaromost of the Fn- Keys are working01:53
jarobut not all01:53
driz_cool how would i get01:53
driz_?01:53
c0lLim using fglrx , and so far its been good , im using a 64bit kubuntu tho01:54
RawSewagemcrandello, ok01:54
c0lL!limewire01:54
ubotuA popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.01:54
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mcrandelloc0lL: it seems to only affect Toshiba laptop owners01:54
mcrandellohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/4127201:55
c0lLmcrandello: ahh , ok , didnt know he was using a laptop01:55
driz_ok how about flash also sorry for the man questions>01:56
driz_?01:56
mcrandelloI submitted a ticket to ATI, they closed it, sent back a form letter, I pushed back and asked them to forward it to the devs as it has to be a bug, now it's a "work in progress" so I'm holding out hope :)01:56
c0lLyeah , i sent them a complaint letter few days ago01:57
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driz_i got an error01:58
driz_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone?highlight=%28player%29%7C%28flash%2901:58
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driz_sudo apt-get install runLime.sh01:59
driz_Password:01:59
driz_Reading package lists... Done01:59
driz_Building dependency tree... Done01:59
driz_E: Couldn't find package runLime.sh01:59
driz_not the link sorry01:59
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gemidjyis kde 3.5.3 startup really faster in Kubuntu>?02:00
RawSewageI can tell you how to make it startup faster02:01
wordfor me the boxes for user and pass on the logon don't show up with 3.5.3 :P02:01
gemidjyRawSewage: share your wisdom02:01
RawSewageGo to Session Manager in KDE Components, and  'Start with an Empty Session'02:01
gemidjyI have done that02:02
RawSewageok02:02
gemidjyjust was curious if it's worth upgrading it02:02
RawSewagefrom?02:02
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pickledbushmanhi, im trying to install the skype plugin, but when i try, i get this error:02:02
RawSewageoh02:02
pickledbushmanchecking for KDE... configure: error:02:02
pickledbushmanin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.02:02
pickledbushmanSo, check this please and use another prefix!02:02
RawSewagewhat version of KDE does Dapper have?02:02
pickledbushmanRawSewage, 3.5 i think02:03
RawSewageQt: 3.3.602:03
RawSewageKDE: 3.5.202:03
RawSewagekde-config: 1.002:03
HawkwindRawSewage: Though it was updated to 3.5.3 the night of the release of dapper02:04
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RawSewageno02:06
RawSewageI just did a fresh install this morning02:06
RawSewagedownloaded the CD yesterday02:06
HawkwindRawSewage: Well 3.5.3 is in the repos if you update your system.  It's in multiverse IIRC02:08
crimsun_err, no, it's on kubuntu.org02:08
h3sp4wnIts not its at deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/02:08
RawSewagewhat02:09
HawkwindHeh02:09
HawkwindIt's somewhere out there anyways02:09
RawSewageshould I upgrade? or wait for it to enter the normal repos02:09
h3sp4wndeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main (add that to /etc/apt/sources.list)02:09
RawSewageis the Kubuntu team still getting 3.53 ready02:10
RawSewagewhy isnt it added to the normal repos02:10
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crimsun_the kubuntu team is probably returning/recovering from Paris02:12
RawSewagewtf are they doing there02:12
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crimsun_the developers' conferences.02:13
RawSewageoh02:13
crimsun_conference, rather.02:13
HealotThere is no significant changes in KDE 3.5.3 imhoe02:14
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method|is there anyway to have a file larger than 4 gigs on my linux partition?02:14
r0xzmethod|: that would shouldn't be a problem02:15
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RawSewageok02:16
RawSewageI'll wait then02:16
method|I thought when you're not using the ntfs fielsystem that there was a size limit on files02:16
r0xzmethod|: with fat32 yes02:17
crimsun_modern UNIX fs support Very Large Files.02:17
r0xzbut ext3 support a filesize of one tebibyte http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tebibyte02:17
r0xz(and that's scarry)02:17
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Healotbtw FATXX isn;t one of the Linux partition, MS created them iirc02:19
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r0xzcorrect02:19
r0xzso use ext3 or reiserfs02:20
HealotUNIX/Linux partitions have been supporting huge file size like ages before MS does02:20
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c0lLdoes anyone know who makes linux audio drivers?02:25
crimsun_meaning?02:25
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crimsun_i.e., OpenSound? ALSA?02:26
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c0lLcrimsun_: how can i check which one my pc is using?, and also can i switch them to see which one works bette?02:28
crimsun_c0lL: ALSA's pretty tightly part of base.02:28
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crimsun_c0lL: "switching" is possible but a pain in the behind.02:29
c0lLcrimsun_:  ok ,im just asking because , the drivers are not tunned because they dont reproduce low frequencies well , or loud enough02:31
c0lLcrimsun_: so i wanted to talk to the driver developers02:31
c0lLcrimsun_: see what they say02:32
crimsun_can you be more precise about your soundware?02:33
crimsun_wow, fumblefingers02:33
crimsun_sound hardware02:33
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c0lLit locks pretty much all the low freqencies (bass)02:35
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method|how do I see how much space i have on a disk?02:35
c0lLi have the m-audio audiophile 249602:35
mcrandellodf02:35
Healotdf02:36
mcrandelloactually df -m will give free space in Megabytes02:36
method|it seems like ubuntu is saying that one of my partitions has no space left with it does02:36
Healotfor KDE GUI, try kdf02:36
c0lLwhats the deal with the harddrive performance tunning service?02:36
Healot!info kdf02:36
ubotukdf: disk space utility for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 320 kB, installed size 948 kB02:36
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method|when i right click on the drive and tell it to calculate the size of the drive it gets 28 gigs02:37
h3sp4wnc0lL: I have an m-audio delta 44 (same chipset) if you disable artsd and make sure nothing is clipping it sounds pretty good02:37
method|but when I do a df, it says the drive is filled to capacity02:37
c0lLh3sp4wn: is artsd a service or ...? , how can i make sure nothing is clipping?02:39
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h3sp4wnc0lL: Disable the soundserver in System Settings02:39
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c0lLh3sp4wn: does the volume control in the kicker work for you?02:39
h3sp4wnc0lL: Run sudo alsamixer (check nothing is in the red when you are playing something)02:39
h3sp4wnC0lL: No wouldn't expect it to as I have 4 seperate outputs02:40
BASEmanI would like to install kubuntu on a Windows machine. Is ntfs resizing well supported by the installer and is it reliable?02:40
driz_i need to install flash player ca anyone help me?02:40
driz_can*02:40
crimsun_BASEman: the alternate installer (text-based), yes02:40
BASEmancrimsun_: doh! I just got the desktop one. Desn't work?02:41
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h3sp4wnC0lL: sudo alsamixer (reduce everything so its not in the red) and then run sudo alsactl store02:41
c0lLh3sp4wn: i dont see anything about the sound server02:41
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h3sp4wnSound and Multimedia -> Sound System02:41
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jarohey... i heard that Dapper Drake comes with an easy configuration of XServer ?02:42
jarowhere is that ??02:42
h3sp4wnc0lL: If you install alsa-tools-gui and run envy24control it looks similar to the windows m-audio interface02:43
HawkwindCan anyone tell me what I've done wrong.  I've mounted an NFS share from my server box onto this box locally, but owner/group are both 501 and I can't write to this NFS or delete or anything else.02:43
jaroah here is the Main Problem : The Monitor (Laptop) wont be detected correctly02:43
HawkwindI just switched to Kubuntu from Mandriva yesterday, and it seems I'm doing nothing different than I was there yet I have no access to the NFS share02:44
jaroso.. sometimes the screen just goes black and wont come back anymore until reboot02:44
h3sp4wnHawkwind: are you mounting the nfshare with -o nolock ?02:46
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juanIs anyone using the baghira theme ?02:47
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: No I haven't used that switch.  Never did on the other OS either02:47
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: It takes ages to connect without that switch (most of the time)02:47
gilsterhow do i get a Logitech quick cam to work in LTS?02:47
gilsterdapper02:48
driz_i need help with flsh player02:48
driz_flash02:48
scastwhat kind of help?02:49
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RawSewagecan people browse my files even if they dont have the password02:49
crimsun_BASEman: the desktop one with the graphical installer has outstanding issues with NTFS partitions.02:49
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Well I just tried that -o nolock and I'm still unable to write/delete02:49
driz_installing it is there a link anyone can give me02:49
gilsterdoes this quickcam work in kubuntu>02:49
RawSewageWhats the point of using a password if anyone can read the files    with a live CD or something02:49
h3sp4wnHawkwind: But it mounts ?02:49
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h3sp4wnHawkwind: Did it before ?02:50
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Yes it mounts fine.  But perms show 501 for user/group02:50
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: It mounted before, but took forever like you stated when not using the -o nolock flag02:50
BASEmancrimsun_: I saw references in the common issues but it didn't seem an issue for me. Is there anything else? bug number?02:50
gilsterso no quickcam in kubuntu?02:51
Healot  !hardware02:51
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BASEmancrimsun_: I meant the known problems page02:52
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: 192.168.1.102:/storage on /archives/myserver type nfs (rw,nolock,addr=192.168.1.102)  <~~Here is what 'mount' shows right now. Not sure if that helps you any02:52
LjLgilster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:52
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Seems the problem might be that this user on this system has the 1000 ID, when it seems like I need to have a 501 ID or something02:53
HealotHawkwind: what's the server OS?02:53
HawkwindHealot: Mandriva 200602:53
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HawkwindThis box was Mandriva up til yesterday and my user had the 501 ID, where in Kubuntu it has 100002:54
Healoteither change your ID to 501 in ubuntu or the user id in mandriva to 1000...02:54
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HawkwindHealot: How can I do that within Kubuntu, and will that break anything if I just change it from 1000 to 501 ?02:55
Healotnot everything....02:55
crimsun_BASEman: search Malone for "installer crashed"02:56
method|one of my drives is being recognized as being full. In windows it doesnt show up as full. I even deleted some stuff, emptied trash and it still shows up as full. How do I solve this?02:56
HawkwindHealot: Not everything ?02:56
HawkwindHealot: I'd prefer a fix that breaks nothing at all :)02:56
Healotchange the your files user group accordingly02:56
driz_anyone02:56
Healotonly the files you own...02:56
driz_flash player install help02:56
h3sp4wnHawkwind: There is a way to specify the uid and gid to connect it as but I can't remember it off the top of my head02:57
c0lLh3sp4wn:where is thet sound server you were talking about?02:57
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HealotKDE Menu - > System Settings -> Users & Groups == Hawkwind02:57
h3sp4wnc0lL: /usr/bin/artsd02:57
Healot!flash02:57
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:57
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BASEman!malone02:58
ubotuI know nothing about malone02:58
driz_thank you02:58
c0lLh3sp4wn:should i uninstall it ? or delete it ?  or what02:58
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h3sp4wnc0lL: Just disable it from running from system settings02:59
c0lLh3sp4wn: ok , thank you02:59
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h3sp4wnSounds and Multimedia then Sound System (just untick it) sound will still work02:59
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HawkwindHealot: I've looked in systemsettings but I'm scared that changing that 1000 to 501 is going to break my system03:00
kbloghow can i change from gdm to kdm?03:00
c0lLh3sp4wn: u mean , uncheck the "enable the sound system"?03:01
HealotHawkwind: it may affect the files you own03:01
h3sp4wnc0lL: Yes03:01
Healotbut you change the user id for the owner manually... Hawkwind03:01
HawkwindHealot: Yeah I can't risk that03:01
c0lLh3sp4wn: ahhhh , i was looking for a server , ooops03:01
c0lLh3sp4wn: thanks03:01
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h3sp4wnc0lL: You might also want to try using envy24control as your mixer03:02
driz_is there something simillar to GIMP on Kubuntu03:02
c0lLh3sp4wn: go that , ty03:02
HealotKIMP, nah...03:02
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Healotjust install GIMP, it works in both desktop03:02
driz_lol03:03
driz_ok03:03
LjLdriz_: what about Krita?03:03
Healot!info krita03:04
driz_LjL: i haven't used it i thought it would be like paint03:04
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 2516 kB, installed size 7976 kB03:04
driz_i have Krita03:04
kblogLjL: krita is far less powerful than gimp03:04
Healotdriz_: do you need soemthing as powerful as GIMP?03:04
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LjLkblog: it's still most definitely something similar to the GIMP for KDE03:04
driz_Healot: ya i do alo of image editing and tuff03:04
kblogprobably yes03:05
Healotdriz_: then GIMP to go...03:05
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driz_ok then03:05
driz_thanks03:05
driz_so i can just sudo apt-get install gimp03:05
Healotsudo apt-get install pimp :)03:05
Healothohoho i joke03:05
driz_lol03:05
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lugod!80311b03:06
ubotuI know nothing about 80311b03:06
lugod!80211b03:06
ubotuI know nothing about 80211b03:06
lugod!wireless03:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:06
lugod!networkmanager03:07
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager03:07
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TanookiHi03:10
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scast Hi03:11
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LjL`sorry for leaving midway, but i got disconnected03:11
RoadFor some reason I can't create another partition with every partition tool I try. Is there a limit to how many partitions one can have?03:11
TanookiIn the Adept package manager, when I select a specific package to install, says "BREAK (install)" instead of just "install" under Requested Changes.  Why?  What's breaking?03:12
pickledbushmanarg, kde bites sometimes03:12
HealotRoad: with basic disk 4 primaries03:12
pickledbushmanTanooki: i believe the path to the backage is broken03:13
Healot3 primaries + 1 extended (primary) with many logical partitions in it03:13
pickledbushmanbut i could be wrong03:13
RoadOk, I have 4 primaries but I need another one, I have my main windows drive (my dad won't let me delete), Linux Ext3 (I don't want to delete), Linux Swap (I think it is important) and 'type 8803:13
Roadcan I delete the type 88 one? will it screw up linux?03:13
HealotRoad: max 4 primaries, you're done with basic disk03:13
Tanookipickledbushman: Does that mean I can't install it?03:14
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pickledbushmanTanooki: i dont think so, prehaps make ure sources list is all good, then rather use aptitude to install the package03:15
pickledbushmanie: sudo aptitude install packagename03:15
Healoteither delete one of the 4 primary and create an extended primary (where you can add logical partitions)... or convert those linux partitions into logical and put them under an extended partition03:15
jarohi alll03:16
RoadHealot: I see a small partition called type 88, I plan to delete it but is it nessasary for linux operation?03:16
jarois there any XCOnfig Tool like SaX for Debian ?03:16
HealotRoad: does the partition contains data?03:17
Roadit is completely full of data 251mb03:17
Healot88  Linux plaintext >>03:17
RoadDo I need it?03:17
Healothmmm... to be safe, back up the data on you Linux partitions first...03:18
HealotI am not sure, it's really up to you... Road03:18
Roadok. I think the simplest solution would be to put Type 88 into extended03:18
Roadhow do you do that?03:18
Healotsince Dad in charge. I suggest you recreate Linux partitions under one extended partition03:18
Roadmy list goes NTFS, Unallocates, Linux Ext3, Extended, Linux Swap, Type 8803:19
Roadwell how do you do that?03:19
HealotRoad: you can do that with (qt)(g)parted or with fdisk (advanced)03:19
Roadcan you do it with partition magic?03:19
jarois there any XCOnfig Tool like SaX for Debian ?03:19
HealotRoad: paste the output to pastebin.com03:19
HealotRoad: yes, absolutely03:20
Healotwith PM03:20
RoadI'll imageshack the window perhaps?03:20
Healotsudo fdisk -l <your harddisk device>03:20
Road(well I'm in windows now >_>)03:20
Healotyeah... give me the PM layout of the disk03:20
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Frederickfolks why does the debugger in kdevelop does find the executable when Im using kubuntu?03:22
RoadHealot: http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8284/untitled8qj.png03:22
Healotuse a lower compression next time :)03:23
Roadcompression?03:23
HealotPNG is hugw03:23
RoadOh crap is it bitmap?03:23
RoadYea, I'll use JPEG next time, slipped my mind, sorry03:24
Healotsorry can't see the img... bunker on the load03:24
Healotmmmkay03:25
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Roadhttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/774/untitled6hu.jpg03:26
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Healotsuggestion: put/change the Linux partition into the extended partition03:26
RoadHow do you do that in partitionmagic?03:26
HealotClick right on the partition list, see the menu?03:27
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rootqualke italianooooooooooo?03:27
Roadis it resize/move?03:27
Healotno, list me the menus that are available03:27
RoadGeneral, View, Disk, Partition, Tools, Tasks, Help03:28
HealotRoad: select the partition on the disk partition chart03:28
Healotclick right mouse button, read  the menu on the popup menu03:29
Roadok,03:29
RawSewageanyone try Celestia03:29
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a mail app the can grab mail from yahoo , msn and google?03:29
Healotregular POP3/SMTP client can do that03:30
HealotYahoo/Google support POP3/STMP now...03:30
Road(only doing ones that aren't grey) Browse, Resize/move, delete, label, format, convert, properties, check for errors, Advanced >03:30
Healotread about that on the respective webmail03:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdalright03:30
HealotRoad: Choose the menu Convert03:30
Healotnot sure about MSN/Hotmail03:31
Roadseems to be the way to go, converting to logical pertition may cause the partition to not be bootable and may chance drive letters :/03:31
Healotyeah03:31
RoadIt still will boot right?03:31
HealotRoad: after the conversion, nay03:32
RoadThen how do I boot up linux?03:32
Healotboot off a liveCD or make a grubdisk (floppy) before executing the conversion03:32
Healotso you'll have a backup boot device03:33
Healot!grub03:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:33
Healotthose link will help explain further03:33
RoadToo confusing O_O besides, I don't have a floppy drive, and livecd's are slow. I think I should have told you earlier, but the drive I plan to make is gonna be an FAT32 drive to connect windows and Linux03:33
HealotRoad: do you have working gNU/Linux OS right now, with grub or lilo?03:34
Roadyes, with grub03:34
Healotuse the liveCD then to recover the Grub menu...03:34
RoadHow do you do that? Will it recover permanently or will I need the livecd every time?03:35
Healotyes, grub will rebuild the partition list... so you can boot the partition even after changing the partition order03:36
Healotyou may need to manually edit your fstab entries... use the liveCD to do that...03:36
RoadWhat would I want in my fstab03:36
Healotwell, after you convert teh partitions... the partition order will definitely change03:37
Healotso your fstab entry isn't valid...03:37
Roadok, so what is the command to look it up again?03:37
Healotchange the partition entry on fstab to make sure your partitions can be mounted later03:38
HealotRoad: three stages i) check the disk order/device using fdisk (during the live CD session)03:38
RoadWhat is fdisk?03:39
Healotii) mount the Linux partition... edit the fstab file on its etc directory...03:39
Healotfdisk is the mother of Linux partitioning program...03:39
jeremybthat link to recover grub is real cool, I ended up reinstalling ubuntu after I installed Vista03:39
Healotit is advice to install NT operating systems first before GNU/Linux OS03:40
jeremybI looked all over google but didn't try irc03:40
Healotiii) reinstall grub... and boot off again...03:40
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HealotI know it's hard for you... so let's do the other method...03:41
Healotoh PM version 803:41
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HealotRoad: you can copy the files on you linux partition first to you Windows drives :)03:42
Road(there are no files on my linux partition, I installed it today)03:42
HawkwindHealot: I fixed the problem.  I added all_squash,anonuid=501,anongid=501 to my /etc/exports on the server and now when I mount it here locally it works perfectly fine :)03:42
Healotdelete all the other partitions, recreate those logical them under and extended primary, c03:42
HealotHawkwind: changing the id works?03:42
HawkwindHealot: I didn't change any ID's anywhere.  Just added those lines to the /etc/exports on the server and it works fine03:43
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Healotthe uid for the share...03:43
Healotmmkay i am jotting that down...03:44
HawkwindHealot: I tried about 100 different options from man exports til I finally got one that allowed me to read/write/delete03:44
RoadHealot, is it possible to create a drive in logical form or does it have to be created in basic?03:45
Healotyes... you can create logical partitions under an extended primary partitions03:45
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Healotbtw it is what extended primary intend to do03:46
Healotmy suggestion, put all you linux partition under that extended partition03:46
RoadSo then why don't I move the Linux Ext3 up, so the unallocated space is beside extended then make that a lovical drive. Wouldn't that seem ... logical?03:46
Healotyou have max 4 primary partitions03:46
Healotso the space left is rendered unusable03:47
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RoadBut can't I make it as a logical drive if it is beside extended?03:47
Healotno03:47
Roadhow come?03:47
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Snake[ONAIR] http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/Music/radio.m3u03:47
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Healotremember the basic disk rule, 4 primaries or 3 primaries + 1 extended primary03:48
Healotbtw the only extended partition on your disk is fully used03:48
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Roadyes, I would have the NTFS, the Linux, the Extended which has the currently unused space and the linux swap and the wierd type 88 at the end03:49
Roadbyt can't I move the linux partition?03:49
HealotRoad: no...03:49
RoadWhy not?03:49
Healotread the partition type on last colum03:49
Healotwhat does it says?03:49
RoadPrimary? Primary drives can't be moved?03:49
Healotyou have 4 primary partition already03:49
Healotthus you can't create more primary partitions03:50
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noiesmohello all I have a folder i want to archive and encrypt and I used kgpg now when i go to restore the fiolder it errors unencrypting it and the resulting zip file is corrupt and I am unable to retrieve the data anyone got any suggestions03:50
Healotsince you dont' have personal data on that linux partition... just delete all the other partition except that NTFS partition03:51
Roadok, I'll do that, and reinstall linux03:51
nrdbI have just upgraded to dapper this default to using kernel 2.6.15-25-386 but this doesn't find my network card!  If I boot from the 2.6.12-10-386 kernel it does find my network card!  can anyone help with this?03:51
RoadThanks for all your help, sorry for the bother, I got to sleep now, good night03:51
Healotthen you can create another 2 primary and 1 extended (where you can put your logical Linux partition)03:51
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Healotwish I can get my own bitches03:55
hybridwish you would keep the language friendly03:55
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Healotread the quit message03:56
hybridnot much i can say to them now is there?03:56
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nrdbDoes anyone know why the 2.6.15-25-386 kernel can't find my network card, but kernel 2.6.12-10-286 can?03:58
h3sp4wnWhat make of network card ?03:58
nrdbopps thats 2.6.12-10-386 can?03:58
driz_I have a problem loading Amarok it just doesnt load at all03:58
driz_?03:58
jarois there any XCOnfig Tool like SaX for Debian ?03:59
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nrdbh3sp4wn: I don't know, is there a way to find out?  maybe the module its using isn't in the newer kernel.04:00
imbrandonjaro, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:00
driz_it shows amarok on the task bar and then it never  shows up at all.04:00
driz_?04:00
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h3sp4wnnrdb: Do you have linux-restricted-modules installed ?04:00
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noiesmowell that really sucks I've just lost access to data thanks to gpg encryption and I did test before deleting the unencrypted data and it work now it doesnt and the passpharse is correct bugger it04:01
nrdbh3sp4wn: yes! what is it?04:02
nrdbh3sp4wn: for both kernels04:02
h3sp4wnbinary modules for it which are not free04:03
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unix_infidelnoiesmo: next time use a symmetric key with a decent cipher algo04:03
h3sp4wnrun ifconfig -a (do you get any eth device ?)04:03
nrdbh3sp4wn: when using 2.6.15-25-386 "ifconfig" doesn't show anything but the "lo" entry.04:04
h3sp4wnifconfig -a (or just ifconfig ?)04:04
nrdbh3sp4wn: just "ifconfig"04:05
gybotanyone04:05
gybotplease help04:05
noiesmounix_infidel, easy to say but thats still a bit piss poor justed followed the dam kgpg wizard but anyway lesson learnt dont always trust wizards04:05
h3sp4wnnrdb: ifconfig -a will show all the detected devices even ones which are not active04:05
h3sp4wnlspci  | grep Ethernet (What is the manufacturer)04:06
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nrdbh3sp4wn: to test that I would need to reboot twice, I can, do you want me to do that?04:06
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h3sp4wnnrdb: I am just talking about at the moment (I would expect sit0 to appear in ifconfig -a but not ifconfig)04:07
nrdbh3sp4wn: at the moment I get an entry for eth0 lo and sit004:08
h3sp4wnnrdb: run lspci | grep Ethernet (You will get a line like 01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10))04:08
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j_lugescould somebody try to help me out04:09
j_lugeshow do i unblock websites?04:09
noiesmo!nvidia04:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:09
nrdbh3sp4wn: I get "0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21142/43 (rev 41)"04:09
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j_lugeshow do you block/unblock pages in kubuntu?04:10
j_lugescould somebody give me some instructions04:10
unix_infideldefine block pages04:10
j_lugeswebsites04:10
j_lugesmy brother blocked a website because he doesnt like the game i play there04:11
j_lugesand i want to unblock it04:11
unix_infidelhe probably did it through the router config.04:11
j_lugesits only blocked on this computer04:11
gybotdoes anyone has a good help link for flash player04:12
nrdbj_luges: you probably need to look at the config for your browser.04:12
gybotfor a webbrowser04:12
unix_infidel!flash04:12
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:12
unix_infidelj_luges: that doesnt matter.04:12
j_lugesim using konqueror04:12
unix_infideli block AIM on my sister's computer from a specific time to a specific time through my router04:12
j_lugeshow would i go about this04:12
unix_infideland i set it for ONLY the computers she has access to.04:12
j_lugesnrdb:how?04:13
unix_infideleither that or he set an iptables rule for it.04:13
j_lugesso is there any way for me to disable them?04:14
nrdbj_luges: can you ping the site?04:14
j_lugeshow04:14
unix_infidelholy jebus...i give up...04:14
Healotthat reminds me of ISA server04:14
j_lugessorry about my noviceness04:14
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j_lugeshow do i ping it, and whats the point04:15
nrdbj_luges: open a 'terminal' and type 'ping <website>' without the http:// at the begining e.g 'ping google.com.au'04:15
j_lugesokeydokey04:15
j_luges127.0.0.104:16
nrdbj_luges: what website are you trying to get though to?04:17
j_lugeswww.runescape.com04:17
noiesmo!kgpg04:17
ubotuI know nothing about kgpg04:17
unix_infidelnoiesmo: like i said, use a symmetric key.04:17
noiesmounix_infidel, yes thanks   easy to say but thats still a bit piss poor justed followed the dam kgpg wizard but anyway lesson learnt dont always trust wizards04:18
unix_infidelnoiesmo: use regular gpg.04:18
unix_infidellesson learned, dont trust gui stuff for sensitive work.04:18
unix_infidelLOL04:18
j_lugesnrdb:what should i do now?04:19
noiesmounix_infidel, yes funny as :(04:19
nrdbj_luges: there does seem to be something wrong with your router.  try puting this address in the webbrowser http://64.37.71.20304:19
j_lugesooh it worked04:20
j_lugesthanks04:20
j_lugeswhere did you pull that from?04:20
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nrdbj_luges: that is the IP address of www.runescape.com.  All web names get decoded into an address, I just ask ping what the address of www.runescape.com was.04:22
j_lugesok thanks04:22
j_lugesso what do you think was wrong with it04:22
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nrdbj_luges: to be able to use the name again you will need to find out how the name lookup was blocked.04:23
j_lugesi have no idea how to find out04:23
j_lugesi suspect my brother did it though04:24
nrdbj_luges: have a look at the file '/etc/hosts' and see if runescape is meantioned.04:24
j_lugesok04:24
j_lugesyep. =] 04:24
j_lugeshe blocked the i.p 127.0.0.1 too04:25
j_lugesthats why that one wasnt working either04:25
j_lugesif i just delete all them will it work again?04:25
nrdbj_luges: it shouldn't be.  what he did was override the lookup of the name.  too get it working you would need to remove this line, it might be advisable to leave it there and use the IP address, because block the address will be difficult.04:26
lowtechwho's box is it, yours or your brothers?04:26
j_lugesits shared04:27
j_lugesfamily one04:27
lowtechgee, nice brother. heh04:27
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m5mI just dl'ed Inkscape 0.44 in .package format... I installed it earlier on another kubuntu system and it works great, my only question is when you install a .package formatted application, does that integrate with apt-get?04:29
nrdbh3sp4wn: do you have any idea why the new kernel doesn't like my network card?04:31
nrdbj_luges: what are you going to do?04:32
h3sp4wnnrdb: Which kernel are you running at the moment ?04:32
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nrdbh3sp4wn: the older one 2.6.12-10-38604:33
h3sp4wnnrdb: Can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod'04:33
nrdbh3sp4wn: of which kernel new/old?04:34
h3sp4wnnrdb: old04:34
nrdbh3sp4wn: yes hang on a second04:34
h3sp4wnnrdb: Can you get online from another machine (once you are booted into the new one)04:34
j_lugesi had to put to groceries away sorry04:34
nrdbh3sp4wn: I think so I need to check if it being used.04:35
j_lugestheres actually a few lines there04:36
j_lugesthis is strange04:37
j_lugeswhen i open it in konqueror it shows the runescape sites blocked04:37
j_lugesbut when i try to edit it in kate its not there04:37
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nrdbj_luges: to change the file you will need the root password. do you have it?04:40
j_lugesyeh04:40
nrdbj_luges: try 'kdesu kate /etc/hosts'04:41
j_lugesok04:41
nrdbh3sp4wn: I pasted the output to "http://pastebin.com/729620"04:41
erik__I'm about to start crying... how do I sync my mobile (Nokia 6280) with Kontact? I have tried kandy and kmobiletools but I don't understand how they work it seems04:42
j_lugesnrdb:do i type that into the terminal?04:43
nrdbj_luges: yes04:43
h3sp4wnnrdb: pastebin seems to be responding really slowly from my connection04:43
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nrdbh3sp4wn: it took about 2 min to upload the data.04:43
j_lugesthere we go, thanks nrdb04:44
nrdbj_luges: I would only expect one line to have your website meantioned.04:44
j_lugesthere we about 7 i think04:45
j_lugeshe blocked just "www.runescape.com" to start04:45
j_lugesand "runescape.com"04:45
j_lugesbut i got around it using "www.runescape.de"04:45
j_lugeshe found out somehow04:45
j_lugesso he blocked that too04:45
nrdbj_luges: so there are several varations on runescape?04:46
j_lugesthere are two sites04:46
j_lugesexactly the same04:46
j_lugesbut different names for the sites04:46
j_lugesi dont know why04:46
j_lugesto get around blocks i suppose. =[)04:46
nrdbj_luges: what is your brother likely to do when he finds out you can reset his block?04:47
h3sp4wnnrdb: pcmcia card ?04:47
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j_lugeshmm im not sure04:48
nrdbh3sp4wn: no there isn't, its probably just started auto.04:48
h3sp4wnnrdb: I think it is using tulip04:49
nrdbj_luges: it might be wise to leave the block in place and use the IP address, leaving your brother to wonder why the block isn't working.04:49
gybottrue^04:49
j_lugesumm ok if i can remember it...04:50
gybotlet him think your an idiot04:50
gybotwhile your not04:50
j_luges=] 04:50
nrdbj_luges: write it down.04:50
gybot:-D04:50
nrdbh3sp4wn: should I see if the tulip module is in the new kernel?04:51
Frederickfolks why is debbuger messed with kdevelop? it doesn't behaves as it did in gentoo =/04:51
j_lugestoo late i deleted it lol04:51
h3sp4wnnrdb: just one last thing run lshw and paste the bits that are under *-network04:51
j_lugesoh good i copy'ed it before i deleted it04:51
j_lugesstrange the root pass isnt working now...04:51
nrdbj_luges: could it have been changed?04:52
h3sp4wnnrdb: especially interested in the configuration: broadcast=yes driver= (bit of it I would expect it to say tulip) but maybe it does not04:52
j_lugesi doubt it04:52
j_lugesits supposed to be my password04:52
j_lugesand my brother isnt even home atm04:52
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nrdbh3sp4wn: I can now use another computer, do you want me to reset this one?04:54
h3sp4wnnrdb: I want to be certain that tulip is the right driver first04:55
h3sp4wnnrdb: Look in lshw04:55
nrdbh3sp4wn: uploading now.04:55
nrdbh3sp4wn: http://pastebin.com/72964304:56
h3sp4wnI think someone is trying to DOS pastebin.com04:56
nrdbit is very slow, at the moment.04:56
j_lugesroot isnt working at all04:57
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nrdbj_luges: does 'kdesu kate' put up a dialog asking for the root password?04:59
j_lugesit opens a thingy which says "Su returned with an error"04:59
h3sp4wnnrdb: Still not managed to get there05:01
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nrdbj_luges: I don't know what can cause this.  what do you get if you type 'sudo whoami'05:01
j_luges"sudo:unable to lookup laptop via gethostbyname()"05:02
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nrdbj_luges: looks like you have a problem there I don't know what.05:03
nrdbh3sp4wn: do you know of another pastbin like service?05:04
j_luges=(05:05
j_lugeshmm theres another little problem.....05:05
j_lugesnormally when i try to load runescape05:05
h3sp4wnnrdb: Not of the top of my head but once you are on the new kernel try doing sudo modprobe tulip && dhclient eth0 (are you using dhcp ?)05:05
j_lugesit will first ask me to accept some thingy05:05
j_lugesi click on "grant all"05:05
j_lugesand it will proceed to load05:05
j_lugesbut now its just a white box...05:06
j_lugesit says "loading applet" in the centre05:06
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nrdbh3sp4wn: yes I am using dhcp05:06
h3sp4wnnrdb: Try doing that to start with and if it doesn't work I will try some other stuff05:07
h3sp4wnnrdb: 'sudo modprobe tulip && dhclient eth0'05:07
nrdbh3sp4wn: have a look at http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1793/05:07
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j_lugesdo you think this problem has something to do with java?05:08
h3sp4wnnrbd: That is alot faster (I saw it before) its definately needs to use tulip05:08
nrdbj_luges: I can't help there, got to reset this computer.05:09
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j_lugesokeydokey05:09
j_lugesbrb i might try restarting05:09
nrdbh3sp4wn: I will connect from the other computer, has to boot a live cd first.05:10
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feistelhi05:11
feistelsomeone can tell-me default groups for default user?05:12
feistelplease, I need recreate the default user05:12
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MNK2_adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, vidoe, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin05:13
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feistelthanks!05:13
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moparisthebestcan someone tell me how to run a shell command as root?05:18
moparisthebestive tried su05:18
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moparisthebestand sudo05:18
moparisthebestbut it says authentication failed05:19
h3sp4wnsudo -i would be the easiest way05:19
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moparisthebestim assuming you use the same pass you use to log in with right?05:19
h3sp4wnyes05:19
h3sp4wn(That will just give you a root prompt - then you can run the command directly)05:19
dr_willis:)05:19
moparisthebestah, ok thanks05:20
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moparisthebesti think i can handle it now i appreciate it :)05:20
h3sp4wndr_willis: I take it thats not suppost to be recommended ?05:20
dr_willisi dont even knwo whats going on05:20
h3sp4wnNeither do I05:21
moparisthebesti asked: <moparisthebest> can someone tell me how to run a shell command as root?05:21
nrdbh3sp4wn: I am back.  with the new kernel.  eth0 is now known as eth1!!05:21
moparisthebest:P05:21
dr_willissudo -s05:21
dr_willisi thought.. or is it -i05:21
dr_willisi forget. :P05:21
h3sp4wnsudo -s is the one that is not suppost to be recommended05:21
moparisthebestwhats the difference?05:21
dr_willisgksudo xterm -bg red -fg black -title 'WARNING THIS IS A ROOT SHELL'05:22
dr_willis:P05:22
dr_willisactually im not sure about the -ttle part. :P i tend to just have bright red shells that are my root shells05:22
h3sp4wnsudo -s doesn't reset environment variables (i.e $HOME probably others)05:23
h3sp4wnsudo sh /path/to/shellscript.sh (which is the recommended way I think)05:24
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nrdbh3sp4wn: with the new kernel the ethernet card is now known as eth1, is there a way I can rename it back to eth0?05:26
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h3sp4wnnrdb: Is it necessary ? you can just change the eth0 to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces05:27
nrdbh3sp4wn: probably not.  Do you know why the change happened?05:28
h3sp4wnnrdb: Trying to use another driver which didn't work properly05:29
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h3sp4wnnrdb: Could be lots of things (but the amount of time it would take me to find out is quite alot) you would have to try blacklisting stuff and if its working I don't think its worth it05:30
nrdbh3sp4wn: could changing the /etc/network/interfaces file cause problems when the next kernel upgrade happens?05:30
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h3sp4wnnrdb: I doubt it dapper will be staying on pretty much the exact same kernel with just security updates now05:30
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dr_willisthats how they tend to do it05:31
nrdbh3sp4wn: Do you think I should leave the line in for eth0 and add another for eth1?05:31
dr_willisbut not sure if edgy will be a 6 mo release  or  if it will be released after 6mo05:31
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h3sp4wnnrdb: I would just change it to eth1 its easy enough to change it back05:32
nrdbh3sp4wn: OK, thanks for helping. :)05:33
h3sp4wnnrdb: No problem (pastebin being so slow was annoying though for me but nothing to do with you)05:33
h3sp4wndr_willis: When will you be switching to edgy ?05:34
dr_willish3sp4wn,  problery 2 mo  after its released. :P05:34
dr_willisI got a file server still running warty,, or breezy.. i forget. :P05:35
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moparisthebestdoes anyone know how to set enviromental variables?05:36
nrdbh3sp4wn: I have another little problem, I would like to fix if its easy, when the new kernel is doing its startup printing it seems to be using a diferent video mode from earlier kernels, as the font (on my computer) has black scan lines in it.  can I add something to grub to change this?05:36
bobstro moparisthebest: system-wide, or just in a script or?05:37
osirisadd the path to ld.so.conf ?05:37
osirisrun ldconfig ?05:37
moparisthebestsystem wide05:37
h3sp4wnnrdb: try vga=normal05:37
bobstromoparisthebest:  well, you can set them in the various bash config files if you want in term sessions.05:37
nrdbh3sp4wn: ok05:37
moparisthebesti know how to set them in scripts, i was just wondering how to set them permanently05:38
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Hobbseemoparisthebest: set them in ~.bashrc?05:39
bobstromoparisthebest:  would the bash init scripts do it?05:41
bobstromoparisthebest:  that's how i do it.05:41
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bobstromoparisthebest:  but of course, that assumes they'll be used in a bash environment.05:42
moparisthebesti dont know bobstro this is my first 3 hours on linux05:42
moparisthebestright now a shell script needs to have those enviromental variables set05:43
bobstromoparisthebest:  ah, ok. :) can you describe what you're trying to do? then we can probably be more helpful.05:43
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moparisthebestwell im trying to run intellij IDEA05:43
moparisthebestits a java ide05:43
Tommy2k4eww its moparisthebest05:43
moparisthebesthey Tommy2k4 i thought that was you :P05:43
Tommy2k4:@05:43
bobstromoparisthebest:  if it's a shell script, depending on whether it's a login session or not, you can set it in the various bashrc scripts.05:43
bobstromoparisthebest:  spend an evening with the bash manpage for details. there's a LOT to it.05:44
Tommy2k4o_o05:44
moparisthebestwhere would I find that at bobstro?05:44
bobstromoparisthebest:  man bash05:44
Tommy2k4kopete wont open :s05:44
HobbseeTommy2k4: ah yes.  is it in the panel, but wont properly open?05:45
Tommy2k4im trying to open it from k-menu05:45
Tommy2k4i click on it and the cursor shows its trying to open but then it goes away05:45
moparisthebestok, thanks bobstro :)05:45
Tommy2k4same happens when i run kopete from alt + f205:46
duckdownfreenode got hacked or some shit?05:46
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moparisthebestwould the kubuntu knowledge base be the best place for questions and such that I have?\05:46
Tommy2k4best thing is to blame moparisthebest  for everything05:46
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Tommy2k4off to bed, cya05:47
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moparisthebestTommy2k4: where you been? :P05:47
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdare there any games i can get with apt-get?06:19
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdthat dont look better then atari65 games06:20
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdthat do06:20
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sdlnxgkanyone having problems mounting cdrom drive???06:20
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Melchiorren0ctuRnaL-fieNd: probably not, but there are fun ones ;)06:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdok , just tell me something 06:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdim bored 06:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdand want to see if my video card can actually work under linux06:24
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcompromise?  you mean you got hacked?06:24
Melchiorren0ctuRnaL-fieNd: try tuxkart (I can't remember if that's the one I played, but one of the tux racers was hilerious ;))06:25
jsubl2anyone know of a good doc to setup kontact to sync addressbook and contact via bluetooth to a smartphone06:25
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdok06:25
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Melchiorren0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Actually, armagetron is good fun, and will test your card out nicely... (you just need to crank the settings up a bit from the default)06:26
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ubuntu_whats going on06:50
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sword-hey is there an option for software raid in the kubuntu live install CD06:50
sword-or will I have to use the ubuntu cd06:51
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CoLLossuSnot sure if its on the live cd06:51
Hobbseesword-: freenode got compromised06:52
sword-its a cd i downloaded from the kubuntu site06:52
CoLLossuSwhy do u use a live cd/?  u just want to check it out?06:52
sword-Hobbsee: really? hmm06:52
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sword-no i dont think its a live cd06:52
sword-it takes me to a graphical desktop06:52
sword-of kde06:52
sword-and i can click it to install06:52
sword-BUT im using it now.... on /home/ubuntu06:52
CoLLossuSdo u have a textmode install option?06:52
sword-on this cd no06:53
sword-http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso06:53
sword-thats one the one i downloaded06:53
sword-oh shit06:53
sword-i see it now06:53
sword-alternate install cd06:53
CoLLossuSthats what u have?06:53
sword-no downloading it now :)06:53
sword-lol06:53
CoLLossuSyeah use the alternate06:54
CoLLossuSand use the texmode install option 06:54
CoLLossuSthat one has software raid setup for sure06:54
CoLLossuShave u ever set up a software raid?06:54
sword-i want to preserve my /home directory and format everything else06:54
sword-CoLLossuS: yes06:54
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CoLLossuSsword-: ull be alright then , but not sure how u gonna keep the home dir if u wanna setup raid06:55
sword-ive did it before06:56
sword-wow where does this temporary filesystem go when downloading this cd i wonder06:57
sword-wow where does this temporary filesystem go when downloading this cd i wonder06:57
sword-oops06:57
jsubl2!bluetooth07:02
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osirisits fixed it seems07:04
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ArmedGeekwow07:04
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osirissee the difference a hub server can make ?07:05
dr_willisnot really. :P07:05
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moparisthebestin konqueror I dont have a "window" menu, does anyone know why?07:08
dr_willistry a differnt theme moparisthebest .07:09
dr_willisit dont always have to be on the top left icon07:10
moparisthebesta different theme?07:11
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moparisthebestin konqueror I dont have a "window" menu, does anyone know why? I cant find anything online either :S07:14
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ArmedGeeki don't have a "window" menu either .. wasn't aware there was supposed to be one07:15
moparisthebestyes, according to the manual07:16
moparisthebestIn Konqueror, you can turn this on with the menu choice Window->Show Terminal Emulator.07:17
moparisthebestthere it is ^07:17
moparisthebestand the screenshot the manual has has a window menu, is it a menu bug or does everyone else have a window menu?07:18
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tawedoghi!07:45
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tawedoganyone feel like telling me how to get my kaffeine dvb-t sound working? :)07:50
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unix_infidelwhat command would i run to check the integrity of the files on a partition?08:42
bobstrounix_infidel:  you mean a filesystem check?08:44
unix_infidelbobstro: no, i know the filesystem's integrity is fine.08:45
unix_infidelheh, otherwise i'd run fsck :P08:45
unix_infideli'm talking about if there's anyway to scan for file integrity. which is sorta asinine because there's no way to do that based just on extension.08:46
bobstrounix_infidel:  well, there are integrity checkers that do a checksum on files, then you periodically compare against that. or are you out to verify that the filestructure itself is intact? "integrity" can mean many things.08:47
bobstrounix_infidel:  what sort of files are they?08:48
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unix_infidel*shrug* i suppose you are right, i think my HD just got exposed to a magnet...08:48
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unix_infideleverything works and all my critical files seem to be working.08:48
unix_infideli do regular backups so its not a big deal...its just a pain to wait 15minutes for everything to untar off the backup server :P08:48
bobstrounix_infidel:  ahm. a badblocks check might be in order08:49
deborahhi08:49
unix_infidelbobstro: thanks.08:49
Melchiorrehi deborah08:49
bobstrohello08:49
unix_infidelahhhh, its a girl!08:49
bobstroworld08:49
bobstrono, a name. that's all we know for sure. :)08:49
Melchiorrelol08:49
deborahafcorse i'm a girl08:49
Melchiorre=-O08:50
bobstrossh. don't let on.08:50
unix_infidelprobably not from the US from the grammar skillz08:50
unix_infidel:P08:50
bobstrosheesh08:50
unix_infidelSong of the Evening: The Avalanches - Frontier Psychiatry08:50
deborahisn't it okeej to be a girl who loves linux...By the way i'm from the netherlands08:50
bobstroactually, bad grammer is a tell-tale sign you're talking to a yank.08:50
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bobstrogrammar even.08:51
unix_infidel:)08:51
Melchiorrebobstro: was just about to say that ;)08:51
bobstrodeborah:  yes. it's fine.08:51
Melchiorredeborah: girls that like Linux rock! :)08:51
bobstrounix_infidel:  why are you telling us about music?08:51
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deborahAnd I'm a child08:51
bobstrooh boy08:51
Melchiorrearen't we all at heart?08:51
deborahso that's why i've got a bad grammar08:52
deborahsorry08:52
bobstrodeborah:  you're fine. it's the reaction of others we need to worry about. :)08:52
deborahok thnx08:52
Hobbseedeborah: hey girl! you're not alone08:52
deborahokeej!08:53
Hobbseehehe08:53
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bobstrodeborah:  your grammar is excellent by the way.08:53
bobstroHobbsee:  well, they've never seen one, so...08:53
Hobbseeit is, wow08:53
deborahwhat kind of linux are you using? than you bobstro08:53
bobstrodeborah:  i suspect a lot here are using kubuntu.08:53
Hobbseebobstro: that seems to be the case, i should come out of hiding a bit more often08:53
unix_infidelHeh, I've learned time and time again.  Its not the chromosomes that count...its what they do.08:54
deborahthank was suppost yo strand ther08:54
bobstrodeborah:  what are you using?08:54
antinobodyunix_infidel I think I understand what you're trying to mean.  I'm not sure it actually works as a literal metaphor, but that's ok08:54
deborahKubuntu and debian08:54
bobstrowups. bad night on the ol' server?08:55
deborahwhat's that means?08:55
bobstrothe server went away earlier, i think.08:55
Hobbseebobstro: server got hacked earlier, yeah08:55
bobstroah, i thought those messages were "unusual"08:56
deborah???08:56
unix_infidelanother quiet night on freenode.08:56
Hobbseebobstro: yeah, rather.08:56
Hobbseeunix_infidel: probably most people havent woken up yet08:56
unix_infidelHobbsee: its 2am here.08:56
bobstrodeborah:  the irc servers were being abused.08:57
deborah2am? it's here 9am08:57
Hobbseeoh crud08:57
bobstroargh, 3:00 AM here.08:57
Hobbseewe're in trouble again08:57
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antinobody12 AM08:57
MelchiorreHobbsee: why's that?08:57
unix_infidelstupid west coast kids.08:57
bobstroantinobody:  i'll be in that timezone next week. :)08:57
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antinobodybobstro I like it, tis a nice timezone08:57
HobbseeMelchiorre: a staffer just got killed again08:57
deborahwhitch timezone?08:58
antinobodyPacific08:58
antinobodyPortland Oregon in my case08:58
deborahEurope?08:58
bobstroHobbsee:  can we assume you don't mean that literally?08:58
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Hobbseesydney australia here08:58
Hobbseebobstro: yeah, just from the network08:58
MelchiorreCentral Australia here ;)08:58
deborahThe Netherlands08:58
bobstroBeatiful Worcester, MA (US) here.08:59
antinobodytis a wide-ranging bunch here08:59
bobstroargh. beautiful even.08:59
antinobodyif I say tis one more time, I'm going to lose my mind08:59
bobstrotis true08:59
deborahwhere are you all from?08:59
unix_infidelyou know you're on IRC too late when: people from other countries are starting their day.08:59
bobstrounix_infidel:  or when you're wrapping up as your neighbors are heading to work.09:00
Melchiorreunix_infidel: wouldn't that be being on IRC at the normal time?09:00
antinobodybut people from other countries are constantly starting their day...09:00
unix_infidelMelchiorre: no....on a normal night i'd just be exiting the after-party.09:00
deborahI've got to go...My mum wants me to have breakfast (horrible i hate breakfast and she knows it)09:01
bobstrowell, we could be doing something productive like staring at a world-of-warcraft screen.09:01
Melchiorrehaha, good work09:01
unix_infidelso i wouldnt be on irc ;P09:01
unix_infidelsome people dont eat breakfast :P09:01
deborahbye09:01
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Melchiorrebye deborah09:01
antinobodyI love breakfast09:01
bobstrobon apetit09:01
antinobodybye deborah09:01
deborahthank you!09:02
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imbrandonunix_infidel, just a precaution09:02
imbrandonsomethings a little fishy atm09:02
bobstrodon't meddle in the affairs of wizards, mortal.09:02
Hobbseeunix_infidel: because when chanserv breaks, you cant get ops, often09:03
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Hobbseemind you, it may break again so it doesnt recognise the ops, but we'll see09:03
unix_infidelsounds about right.09:03
bobstrofasten seatbelts09:03
antinobodyI don't have a seatbelt...09:04
bobstrograb something09:04
Hobbseehaha09:04
Melchiorreapt-get install seatbelt ;)09:04
unix_infidel"brace for impact"09:04
unix_infidel*crash sounds from starship*09:04
imbrandonhaha09:04
unix_infidel"inertial dampeners are down sir!"09:04
bobstroairbags airbags09:04
antinobodyMelchiorre nicely done09:05
antinobodybut I don't think seatbelt's in the edgy repos yet09:06
Melchiorreantinobody: cheers :)09:06
lowtechif i run the nvidia glx drivers and change kernels, what will i need to do?09:07
macdoh fun!09:07
macdwrong chan...09:07
bobstrolowtech:  nothing is suspect. i've udpated kernels a couple of times. or are you compiling your own?09:08
lowtechno, changing to the 686 smp09:08
bobstrolowtech:  ah, not so sure about that. i don't smp lately.09:08
unix_infidellowtech: you shouldnt need to do anything really.09:09
unix_infidellowtech: keep in mind though some software doesnt play well with SMP09:09
unix_infideleg Ndiswrapper.  but ubuntu should update your grub config for you automatically but it'll delete all your kernel boot params.09:09
lowtechoh, thought the nvidia would need a reinstall or something09:09
unix_infidellowtech: why would you think that....this isnt mandriva :P09:10
lowtechlol, thats exactly why09:10
unix_infidelcheers, gonna go actually be productive at 2am :)09:10
bobstroshowoff09:10
unix_infidel2am on a saturday night and i'm being productive, more like........pathetic :P09:11
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tawedogyo i can't get no sound on my dvb or dvds in kaffeine, what've gotta fix?09:15
lowtechyour grammar? heh09:16
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guptaWhich is  the default theme in kubuntu? I changed mine ,and now can't find the original one :/09:34
Melchiorregupta: which theme do you mean? the colour scheme, style, or window decorations?09:36
guptathe one that defiens the top right corner buttons09:37
guptathe minimize and close buttons i.e09:38
Melchiorrethat's the 'window decorations' and in Dapper the default is 'Crystal'09:38
Melchiorre(I think)09:38
guptaThanks!09:38
Melchiorrenp09:38
guptaYup thats it!09:39
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nrdbHi I have just upgraded to dapper and I can't get xine to play .avi files I get sound but no picture.10:08
MelchiorreDo you have the win32 codecs installed?10:10
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Melchiorreor perhaps I should say, does it work in other media players?10:12
nrdbMelchiorre: I don't think so, in adept 'win32' is only finding 'mingw32' I don't think this is it.10:12
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nrdbMelchiorre: I have both universe and multiverse repositories enabled.10:13
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Melchiorrenrdb: the package is called 'w32codecs', not sure what repo it's in10:13
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jpatrickit isn't in ubuntu10:14
lowtechw32codecs10:14
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nrdbnothing comes up under 'codecs'10:14
Melchiorrehttp://Ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-Ubuntu/10:15
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Melchiorresee if that helps10:15
lowtechi found it in my package so your sources may not be complete or something10:16
lowtechpackage search10:16
jpatricklowtech: it's been taken out of Ubuntu10:16
Melchiorrelowtech: do you have repos other than the default, like seveas's?10:16
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nrdbMelchiorre: it says to use "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" is this ok for dapper?10:19
Melchiorreerm10:19
lowtechi don't remember where i got my source list, was too long ago to still be in my browser10:19
Melchiorrenrdb: use the seveas repositories instead  'deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/ dapper-seveas extras'10:21
Melchiorresame package name (w32codecs)10:21
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nrdbMelchiorre: I get a "GPG error: http://users.lichtsnel.nl dapper-seveas"10:29
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wordnrdb: Are you looking for w32codecs?10:29
nrdbword: yes10:30
Seveasnrdb, wget http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -10:30
worddo you have dapper?10:30
nrdbword: yes10:30
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wordjust open up adept go to file > manage repositories and add the words "multiverse universe" to the end of the lines that aren't greyed out10:30
slow-motionhallo10:31
Seveasword, w32codecs aren't in Ubuntu and never will be10:31
nrdbword: I have they aren't there.10:31
Melchiorreslow-motion: g'day buddy10:31
slow-motionhi Melchiorre10:32
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tinklepantsthis is a nice channel10:32
wordmust've gotten it somewhere else then...there was probably a dl link where i found it..10:32
nrdbSeveas: download w32codes now :)10:34
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MelchiorreDoes anyone know of a good video editor for Linux? like the equivalent of Adobe Premiere, not just a video importer?10:38
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wordMelchiorre: A quick google search produced this - http://lives.sourceforge.net/10:39
Melchiorrethanks10:41
wordi'm compiling it right now to see how it is because i'm interested as well10:43
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nrdbSeveas: I installed the w32codes do I need to reset etc. for them to work?10:45
Seveasno10:45
wordnrdb: Almost never a reason to reset in linux10:45
nrdbSeveas: I thought so, xine still isn't giving me a picture, i am getting sound though10:46
wordtry running it in command line and see if you get an error10:46
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nrdbword: no.10:47
nrdbSeveas: word: xine does work from a DVD.10:48
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Seveasnrdb, you might need libdvdcss210:49
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farousanyone know of  Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 409710:51
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nrdbSeveas: I have libdvdcss2 installed.10:53
farousnrdb: did you enable dma on the disk10:54
farousdisk-drive i ment still waking up :)10:54
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nrdbfarous: Seveas: I have a dialog saying "unsupported codec: Video Codec: ISO-MPEG4/OpenDivx(FMP4)"10:57
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wordMelchiorre_away: Ah, when you're back i found a video edtting app more similar to adobe premiere - http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php311:01
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slow-motionbbl11:03
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pickledbushmanis it possible to mount a ftp account as a share? i want to use the weather widget, to upload stats to my website automaticaly11:05
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nrdbcan anyone give me an idea why mpg321 can play a .mp3 file but nothing else will?11:27
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Riddellpipitas: yes11:31
faroustell nrdb about restricted formats11:31
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word!RestrictedFormats11:35
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:35
wordgo to that link on the top11:35
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linuxbambi!screensaver11:37
ubotuI know nothing about screensaver11:37
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Steven_Mhi all11:37
tvindkindHi11:37
billdakillhello,i got a problem with logging into kubuntu,can someone help me what to do11:38
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wordbilldakill: Whats wrong with it?11:38
tvindkindYou mean logging on with KDM or logging on in general?11:38
Steven_Mis there anyway of installing gnome-control-center without the rest of gnome?11:39
billdakillwell its sudenly crashed then i restart it it came to session menu and when i type password11:39
billdakillits just black screen11:39
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billdakillthen it send me back to session menu11:39
ninHerhi all11:40
billdakillall i can do is to log in console mode11:40
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tempestAnyone here know how to install kubuntu on an old iMac?11:41
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cox377does anyone know what the internet explorer pluggin is called for FF that alows u views pages that require IE?11:42
mth`MAWHi there any body who has kino installed on dapper?11:43
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slow-motionre11:49
crazy_penguinGood afternoon everyone!11:50
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crazy_penguin|lostbyte|: hi! here?11:59
ajaychi guys11:59
ajaycwhich is better kubuntu or ubutnu and which is faster?11:59
rukubuntu is more powerful11:59
rugnome is cleaner and zippier I guess11:59
ajaycru, how?11:59
rukubuntu, runs KDE which is better in my opinion12:00
ajaycru, in wht sense is it powerful?12:00
rumore features, better apps etc...12:00
ruhttp://www.google.co.za/search?q=kde+vs+gnome12:00
rucheck that link12:00
ajaycspeed?12:00
ruI dunno, they both pretty zippy but I would prolly say gnome12:01
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stamenhi12:08
stamentell me how to dismount a network drive12:08
stamennot nfs12:09
stamenits a samba drive12:09
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yangohi, how do I tell linux that the hardware clock is local time and not UTC?12:13
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psb154yango are you using kde12:16
yangopsb154: yes12:16
psb154yango right click the clock, select timezone tab.12:17
psb154yango at the bottom there is a UTC checkbox that can be checked and unchecked12:17
tsdgeospsb154: can i have a screenshot? i don't seem to be able of finding it netiher :D12:18
yangobut that is to set your local time to UTC, not to tell that the HW clock is local time12:18
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psb154yango try: man hwclock12:21
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ChristmasCppcan somebody tell me please where is the option not to automatic save and load a session when kde starts?12:23
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tsdgeosChristmasCpp: yes there is12:25
tsdgeosChristmasCpp: kcontrol -> kde components -> session manager12:26
cox377does anyuone here use Azureus?12:26
gourdinanyone here using compiz/xgl on a intel 950 chipset ? (i945 vid card)12:27
Style_CHM_I had a look at compiz/xgl on my ati x1400 - its still too young to bother with I reckon12:29
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ChristmasCppthanks so much tsdgeos12:32
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crazy_penguin|lostbyte|: here?12:33
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cox377basically, i have azurues installed, and when i minimize it it just shows as a white box12:34
cox377anyone got any ideas?12:35
tempestwhat ver of java you using12:35
cox377Umm12:35
cox377i only installed it about a week ago so i'm assuming it's new12:35
tempesttry using the latest ver of sun java12:35
cox377when  it goes to system tray12:36
tempestif you haven't changed it your using the default ver that comes with your distro12:36
tempestgo to java.com, download and install sun java12:36
cox377is there a command to check version?12:36
arafatcox377: java -version12:36
cox377cheerts12:36
arafatcox377: java 1.5 is also in the repos!12:36
cox377i have 1.5.0.0612:37
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tempesthmm - that should work12:37
cox377tried upgrading and it says it's the newest version12:37
farouscox377: sudo update-alternatives --config java. to see what java are installed which one you are using and to choose the one you need12:37
cox377dont know why i'm getting this white box12:37
tommydid you install azureus from the repository?12:38
cox377ithink so tommy12:38
cox377yeh 1.4 is selected and not 1.5, let me change and restart azureus12:38
tommyit doesn't work...you have to download from the dite12:39
tommysite12:39
cox377azureus is working just fine as a client, it just shows up as a white box in the system tray when minimized12:39
tommyah ok12:39
tommyyou can try to download from the site...icon is ok for me12:40
cox377i;'ve just run update-alternatives --config java. again and there is a + by 1.4 and a * by 1.512:40
cox377strange12:40
tempestwhen you click on the tray does it come back up, is the whole issue the icon in the tray?12:41
tempestthat may be a prob with your panel or your display settings12:41
farouscox377: you write the number of the java you need12:41
cox377yeh, the button works in terms of fuctionality12:41
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tempesttry changing your panel settings12:42
cox377farous: i did do, i changed it to 3 but it's still being odd12:42
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deborahhi12:42
cox377how do i do that tempest?12:42
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tommytry http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php12:42
tempestright-click on panel, panel settings12:42
deborahhi12:42
farouscox377: how did you install java i know 1.5.06 is not in the repos not last ime i checked12:42
tempestpanel menu rather12:42
tempestthen settings12:42
farouscox377: did you use sudo also?12:42
cox377i may have manually installed it, i dont remember to tell u the truth12:43
cox377farous: i did12:43
rusis azureus any better then ktorrent?12:43
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deborahdo u know Final Fantsy Vll Advent Children?12:43
farouscox377: have no idea.12:43
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deborahhttp://www.final-fantasy.it/ u really hve to check out this site!12:44
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arafatfarous: java 1.5.6 is in the repos!12:44
farouscox377: do you have a 64 processor12:44
arafati installed it from there...12:44
farousarafat: did not update in a while so perhaps it is ther now12:44
cox377nah mate12:44
cox377not 64 here12:45
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cox377Ok, that's not a huge issue12:45
cox377what is doing my nut12:45
gemidjyalign to grid doesnt work here (kde 3.5.2)12:45
thelostbyte_Hi 112:46
cox377is anytime click any of the arrow buttons or the del button area it decides to open konquer and then load the locate:ksnapshot12:46
thelostbyte_help..12:46
cox377i have no idea why12:46
thelostbyte_i cant access any website.. ?12:46
deborahhi12:46
cox377thelostbyte: have u installed a firewall?12:46
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thelostbyte_I can ping google.com but it does'nt work in the browser.12:47
tempestdisable ipv612:47
tempestare you using firefox?12:48
thelostbyte_tempest, YEah ! also konqueror same thing..12:48
thelostbyte_ok ! i'll disable v612:48
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thelostbyte_tempest, BRB !12:49
mth`MAWHi there anybody who know which paket I have to install, to get rid of this messgae while ./configure?!12:49
mth`MAWconfigure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install12:49
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mth`MAWgnome-lib-data is installed12:50
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shredder_Hi01:06
tsdgeoshi01:06
ArmedGeekhello01:06
shredder_Sha na na Bunqueeda Sobequan Ubuntu01:08
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shredder_I'm Hans Jurkenschpenctle, From Las Vegas01:11
BanskuZaha01:11
tsdgeoswelcome Hans01:11
shredder_I am in Vegas, But I'm not Hans01:11
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tsdgeos:-S!01:12
mth`MAW?!01:12
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nkjoephi all :)01:14
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shredder_Hey Hey01:14
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NKjoepi got some problem with xine... mediaplayers arent working... just does telling it the position of the device..01:15
NKjoephow i can tell kde use /dev/dps1 not auto or other devs?01:15
NKjoepin system setting / audio01:15
NKjoepi wrote the right position of the device in "override device location"01:16
NKjoepbut it's not working01:16
NKjoepso... any tips? :D01:16
shredder_media players?/player?01:18
NKjoepi mean global sounds :)01:19
NKjoepand of course any mediaplayer (amarok koffeine.. etcet)01:19
NKjoepskype's working... but i had to put the right device  (/dev/dsp1)01:20
NKjoepi cant explain but the sistem is trying to play with /dev/dsp01:20
NKjoep:\01:20
shredder_ok, I'm not familiar with global sounds. I would install everything that sounds like a decent media player that you have not tried yet01:21
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NKjoepoh :)01:21
shredder_what motherboard r u using01:21
NKjoepsys chipset01:22
NKjoepsis01:22
shredder_ I had all kinds of problems with an elite group and linux.01:23
NKjoepmotherboard ECS K7S5A con Chipset SIS 73501:23
NKjoepi had an old one elite... and was a nightmare with linux :\01:23
shredder_for sure01:23
NKjoepit's first time audio doesnt work with this sis..01:24
VincentMXHow do i make GRUB boot from my USB stick?01:24
shredder_amazing how difficult and stupid01:24
shredder_try setting boot order to a usb/memory stick01:24
shredder_ if possible01:24
VincentMXwich one is my usb stick? hd3,0?01:25
VincentMXor just sda?01:26
VincentMXsd1,0?01:26
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TOYHI01:27
TOYARE UDERE01:28
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NKjoephi yes01:28
VincentMXTOY: no caps please01:28
NKjoepwe are here :P01:28
TOYIDONT NO WHY UDONT WANT TO SPEAK WITH ME01:29
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VincentMXTOY: stop using caps01:30
TOYSORY FOR DAT WATS YOUR NAME01:31
VincentMXVincent de Vries01:31
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HobbseeTOY: what help were you wanting?01:34
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abehihi room, I'm a budding kde dev just got thru installing kubuntu, I find it has neither gcc nor rpm installer, and I need to install my 'cable net' software, help!!!01:36
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Hobbsee!b-e01:38
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)01:38
Hobbseeabehi: ^01:38
Hobbseeabehi: install build-essentials01:38
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abehiI'm new to debian, am frm gentoo and I'm absolutely clueless, can I download software from windows, and then ask the package manager to install it?01:39
abehithx ubotu, reading up on that, my prob is I cannot connect to internet, as the software to connect is in source code or rpm and kubuntu has neither01:40
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jme__abehi: no, you can't. even on gentoo :)01:40
Hobbseeabehi: it's on the install cd - just run "sudo apt-get install build-essentials" with the cd in the drive01:40
jme__abehi: you are here connecting irc thru internet, what do you mean by 'cannot connect to internet' ?01:41
abehihere in India, you have 'cable net' you are connected to the lan but need an application to get thru, so essentially I cannot apt-get anything!01:41
jme__abehi: about running window programm on linux, there are no simple way. but some possibility exist to run window under linux, non trivial to use/install tho. you may look at qemu, xen or wine01:42
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abehihttp://www.elitecore.com/24online.htm01:43
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abehinope jme_ you have a linux port of that software, it is in rpm or source code, but there is no way the default kubuntu will let me install it01:43
abehican I just download gcc on windows and then install it in kubuntu?01:44
jme__ah ok01:44
jme__i get it :)01:44
nathow do i make a thing that makes me op when i join the room01:44
jme__you meant downloading rpm on window and then installing rpm on linux01:44
abattoir_abehi: you can potentially use alien to convert the rpm to deb depending on the rpm01:44
abehiyes, that or gcc!01:44
jme__abehi: yep you can do that. it make the process much longer tho01:45
VincentMXi can't find my usb stick anymore in /dev01:45
abehihmm I can try that... its just a small prob, I just hope it doesn't have dependencies!01:45
abehithx a ton!01:45
jme__abehi: about your connection to internet, if you could do a vpn to have a 'real' connection, it would make your life much easier01:46
abattoir_abehi: build-essential is a meta package, it depends on other packages which you have to download too01:46
abattoir_abehi: alien too would have dependencies that you should manually download01:46
jme__abehi: ubuntu kinda assume to be assumed to be connected to the internet. not required tho01:46
abehiI think, I might find Suse a better developer environment, I simply like my kubuntu!01:46
abehiif only I could connect to the net!01:46
jme__suse is more 'standalone' aka being able to run without internet01:47
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abattoir_abehi: where is the rpm? can you give me a link?01:47
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abehisure01:47
abattoir_abehi: and are you running dapper?01:47
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abehiheres the link http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linc/linc-1.0-1.i386.rpm01:48
alllllllhelotest01:48
Hobbseenat: you have to be on the access list for that.01:48
abehiyes, Im running dapper, the most current kubuntu(?!)01:48
abehijust finished the installation, I really hope I can get this fixed!01:49
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abattoirabehi: i might be able to generate a .deb for you from the .rpm, give me a sec to check it out.01:50
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abehisure abattoir, I'll wait up01:51
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raitoThere was this samba config program, it started with kcm, what was it again?01:59
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uniqraito: kcmshell kcmsambaconf02:00
raitouniq, thanks02:01
raitouniq: wait there was another one that could set up what files you want to share02:01
uniqkcmshell fileshare02:01
abattoir_abehi: how can i send you the file? email?02:02
abehisure02:03
abehimailme at abhijeetsaran@gmail.com02:03
abattoir_address?02:03
abehithx again abattoir02:03
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IvaN^89^Uehi02:04
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Lacertayo, i installed opera browser but i'd rather like to launch it with the catapult. how do i do that?02:04
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abattoir_abehi: sent. It should work, look at the mail for instructions to install, if you already dont know.02:05
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abehithx again, and yup, I didn't already know it ;-)02:06
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abehiwill reboot now, ciaou!02:06
uniqlacerta: should just work. I can start opera from katapult just fine.02:06
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raito!samba02:06
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:06
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Lacertauniq: the opera didn't appear on the K-panel or whatever and i cannot launch it with catapult02:06
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Lacertaperhaps i'll search for the bin file and make a shortcut to the desktop02:07
|lostbyte|help !02:09
|lostbyte|I cant access any pages on the internet ?02:09
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|lostbyte|i can ping google.com but it displays time out in the browser..02:09
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jme__lostbyte seems like a http proxy issue02:11
|lostbyte|i dont have any proxy loaded..02:11
|lostbyte|happens in konqueror and firefox.02:11
jme__well try other site02:12
jme__then try telnet google.com 80 to see if it react the same way02:12
uniqlacerta: try to run 'kbuildsycoca' in konsole. and then try katapult.02:12
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|lostbyte|jme__, My isp's website only loads..02:13
uniq|lostbyte|: sounds like a ISP prolbem.02:13
Lacertauniq: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!02:13
jme__lostbyte so it really like a http proxy issue :)02:13
VincentMXi can't open my usb stick (dev/sda) in fdisk, cfdisk or gparted.02:13
jme__lostbyte, ask you isp the http proxy you have to use02:14
|lostbyte|uniq, SO what, i'll have to wait and see..02:15
uniq|lostbyte|: wait and see, or contact your ISP ask what's going on. Most ISPs have transparent http proxies somewhere in their system. If it fails you will get this kind of situation.02:16
|lostbyte|oh !02:16
|lostbyte|uniq, SO i need their proxy ip and port.. alright..02:16
|lostbyte|thanks for the info..02:16
jme__hehe :)02:17
jme__uniq got something i dont :)02:17
jme__i told the same thing but me, it didnt go thru :)02:18
uniq|lostbyte|: the point with transparent proxies is that you don't need to do anything. You are forced to use it anyway. All http traffic is forced through it. So your isp will just have to fix the problem. You don't have to do anything, except maybe contact them and tell them they have a problem :)02:18
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|lostbyte|I am just nervious, if it not only me..02:19
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|lostbyte|BRB02:20
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KioudSalut :)02:21
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devendra_lhi, I cannot get power control for my monitor working...02:22
devendra_learlier there were 3 slider, stand-by, suspend, turn off I think.... now there is a single option in power control02:23
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Iamhello there02:33
Iamcan u hear me?02:33
Iamcan u hear me now?02:33
Iamcan u hear me now?02:33
HobbseeIam: yep02:33
Iamgood my sprint mobility is working02:34
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guptaAny keyboard macro app for X? To send in a series of keystrokes?02:34
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gemidjyrepository for kaffeine 0.8* ?02:37
Iammacro exspress02:37
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whyamiwhat is the kde equivalent to gnome's file-roller?02:43
Hobbseewhyami: ark?02:44
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whyamiHobbsee: thanks!02:45
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rmcdanielhi02:57
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flakehail linux noobie here03:01
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flakehi03:06
gnoxhi03:06
flakei installed ubuntu + kde the other day03:06
flakeseems nice so far03:07
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TheHighChildGlad to hear you're likin it flake03:08
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DRYKISSthat took way too long to get right...03:08
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ajaycguys help me decide ubuntu or kubuntu03:08
TheHighChildajayc: Kubuntu, at least this channel will tell you that ;)03:08
DRYKISSkubuntu03:08
ajaycTheHighChild, reasons for it03:08
DRYKISS:p03:08
ajaycgimme reaons03:09
flakei would have tried kubuntu but i hit ubuntu first03:09
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DRYKISSi just fancy kde over gnome03:09
TheHighChildajayc: It's a more nimble windowing systems, I think the default and extended themes are better. Overall appearance is better03:09
flakekubunutu = kde + ubuntu right?03:09
DRYKISSyes03:09
psb154ajayc: KDE is easier to configure than Gnome in my opinion03:09
TheHighChildflake: Yes, only difference is the windowing system and extended packages03:09
ajaycand what about speed?03:10
johnfluxI think the only difference is the default03:10
TheHighChildajayc: I like the extended packages for KDE, Kate, Kalarm, Konversation, Katapult, etc. The list goes on/03:10
klerfaytdoes it mean that kubuntu has all ports open if there is no firewall?03:10
TheHighChildajayc: I can't give any exact stuff but I think KDE is a tad more responsive03:10
DRYKISSi use kde for amarok03:10
flakewolf et plays much smoother on here but i still suk at it, i can run it at 1280x1024 unlike the xp03:10
johnfluxklerfayt: there are no apps running that listen on a network port03:10
ajaycTheHighChild, some people say its gnome that is faste03:11
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ajaycr03:11
TheHighChildflake: Nice, I love the game. What servers do you play on?03:11
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ajaycwait wait03:11
TheHighChildajayc: Like I said, it depends on what channel you are in;)03:11
ajayci installed xubuntu03:11
ajayci insallted et on it03:11
flakewhichever i can find at the moment, but i need to figure out how to upgrade from 2.5503:11
klerfaytflake: if you want to own then use good config03:11
flake2.60b link was broken03:11
ajaycand when i run the game the game screen is not at the centre but askew to the left03:11
ajaycany idea?03:11
TheHighChildflake: Why not download the 2.60 version?03:11
ajaycTheHighChild, ?03:11
klerfaytflake: before playing the game open the terminal and type  xset m 1 103:11
TheHighChildajayc: When it loads, press alt+enter03:12
ajaycsomeone please helpme03:12
ajaycTheHighChild, its already in fullscreen03:12
NV_The_Riperwhat's the problem ajayc??03:12
flakethink i have to log into file planet?03:12
flakeugh03:12
flakei'm a leech03:12
TheHighChildflake: For what, you need the game?03:12
ajaycNV_The_Riper, i installed et and whn i run it the game menus the video are askew towards the left03:12
johnfluxajayc: use the controls on your monitor to shift it :P03:12
ajaycthey are not in the cnetre of the screen03:12
ajaycjohnflux, i gotta laptop :p03:13
flakethe upgrade, or at least the full 2.60 version03:13
snikkeri've got a device icon on the desktop, when i click on it, a new window is opened. is possible to open it in a current window, but in another tab?03:13
TheHighChildhttp://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/et-linux-2.60.x86.run03:13
johnfluxajayc: can you change the resolution in the game03:13
flakeahh thanks03:13
johnfluxajayc: try that03:13
ajaycjohnflux, alrady did03:13
ajaycbut still probs03:14
klerfaytjohnflux: I'm not going to pretend that I know something about network security; but I'm asking if in your opinion there is any reason to get any firewall running at all?03:14
flakehow secure is linux, is it because it isn't commercial and well-known or is it really secure03:14
TheHighChildklerfayt: not really if you aren't running a server but the paranoid still do it, like me ;)03:14
johnfluxklerfayt: none03:14
ajaycflake, try hacking a linux box . Thats all i gotta say03:14
flakei know, i have my system passworded - have to supply it to do anything03:15
TheHighChildflake: The nature of the linux kernel makes it a little safer. The root hierarchy and handling of permissions makes the system as a whole, much safer than most Windows.03:15
johnfluxklerfayt: there's no reason to run a firewall at all unless you start installing servers03:15
abattoir___snikker: it is possible, you must specify that in konqueror03:15
flakei also have vista beta installed, they're trying to move closer to linux type security03:15
klerfaytis it possble that kubuntu slpash is "fake" or the messages are real?03:15
johnfluxklerfayt: the reason you often install a firewall in windows is because it does have quite a few servers running03:15
TheHighChildflake: They are trying to make it feel like it has that secutiry.03:15
DRYKISSajayc: that's not entirely true... there are new exploits daily, the question is more how big the chance on a hacker attack is for you, the consumer03:16
johnfluxklerfayt: for network neighbourhood, and so on03:16
ajaycDRYKISS, i know but they are comparing it to windows03:16
DRYKISSk03:16
ajaycDRYKISS, as it is being 16 i can hack a linux  box ;)03:16
snikkerabattoir___: ok, i'll see in the konqueror options...03:16
abattoir___snikker: Konqueror->Settings->Configure Konqueror->Web Behaviour->Tabbed Browsing->Advanced Options->Open as tab.....03:17
TheHighChildajayc: Want my IP?03:17
klerfaytI got this weird problem that I disabled some services at boot using kcontrol but they still startaccording to kubuntu splash03:17
ajaycTheHighChild, no thankx i am on windows03:17
ajayc:D03:17
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ajayci gotta reboot into gentoo later03:17
snikkerabattoir___: oh, thanks a lot :-)03:17
flakei just got a message saying saving this file as a binary will result in a corrupt file03:17
TheHighChildflake: hold on03:17
DRYKISSwhat kind of file03:18
TheHighChildRight click and "save as"03:18
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TheHighChildhttp://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/03:18
DRYKISSoh03:18
flakethanks03:18
flakefast, going at 1.3Mb/s03:19
DRYKISSMiB or Mbit?03:19
TheHighChildnp, when it finishes, you will nee to "cd ~/savedlocation && chmod u+x et-linux*"03:19
TheHighChildflake: Yeah, we run the best servers in the game ;)03:19
flakecool, may i have the ip03:19
snikkerabattoir___: i've set as you sayd, but it don't work... maybe i must restart the kde session?03:20
flakeor what server name03:20
flakei can usually find it03:20
TheHighChildflake:  All of our server IP's can be found here http://www.shitstorm.org/index.php03:20
flakethanks03:20
abattoirsnikker: try closing all konqueror windows and then open, else try restarting the kde session03:20
snikkerabattoir: ok, i try03:21
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Lacertamy audio is playing in wrong audio card. how do i change that?03:22
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ajayccan someone tell me a really cool link about kubuntu03:22
ajaycmay be unofficial03:22
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DRYKISSchange the default mixer03:22
flakeis there an easy way to get mp3 going03:22
snikkerabattoir: now i try to restart kde...03:23
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DRYKISSyes with Automatix03:23
Lacertaah03:23
Lacertai think i found it03:23
DRYKISSk03:23
DRYKISSflake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19002503:25
DRYKISStutorial for Automatix03:25
flakethanks again03:26
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TheHighChildflake: Be careful with Automatix, it's a great utility BUT it can do damage if you don't know what you're doing.03:27
DRYKISSchmod 007 : licence to crash :p03:27
DRYKISSnot that dangerous03:27
DRYKISSnothing has ever gone wrong with me03:27
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mrmistHi guys :)03:28
DRYKISShi03:28
DRYKISS(just realised that came out wrong)03:28
DRYKISSi meant automatix, not chmod03:28
Hobbsee!automatix03:28
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.03:28
Hobbsee!easyubuntu03:28
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.03:28
mrmisti'm running kubuntu on a latitude, and I'd like it to recognize that I've got another screen connected to it. Any easy way to do it ?03:28
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klerfaytmrmist: son't you have some "Fn" hotkeys?03:29
klerfaytmrmist: *don't03:29
mrmistklerfayt: sure... why !?03:30
TheHighChildmrmist: Well, it's possible. Just to find out how http://flickr.com/photos/mwilkie/160927853/03:30
flakeis there something like the task manager i can kill a program03:30
DRYKISSksysguard03:30
DRYKISSfrom the K menu03:30
TheHighChildflake > Kmenu > system > Ksysguard03:30
DRYKISSthat03:30
TheHighChildflake:  Or you can type "ps aux" into the konsole03:30
DRYKISSps aux? what does that do?03:31
TheHighChildWe're quite the team DRYKISS03:31
mrmistklerfayt: thing is: The stationary screen has a complete different resolution than my CRT 21"03:31
TheHighChildDRYKISS: ps lists process, a means all, ux mean something that I don't know. lol, "man ps"03:31
mrmister... I mean... the laptop screen's got another resolution than my desktop screen03:31
snikkerit don't work03:33
flakesee yall later, thank you for the help03:33
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DRYKISSwhen i die i want AFK on my gravestone03:34
klerfaytDRYKISS: #offtopic03:35
DRYKISSsorry03:35
Lacertaalright... ahem. I seem to be having problems with changing the mixer03:35
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mrmistAny way to make X react to different screens ?03:37
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mrmistWhen connection my CRT, I want the resolution to change from the standard portable resolution03:37
om_hi i am having a bit of a problem.. im trying to mount a ntfs hdd and everytime i try to access the dir i get "you do not have permissions"03:38
om_sudo cd ~/home/ntfs doesn't work...03:38
DRYKISSaccess as in write or as in read?03:38
om_so i'm not sure what to do03:38
om_read/write03:38
Lacertaom_: set -o uid=<user>03:38
om_it's my backup03:38
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DRYKISSwith the default drivers you can only read (i think)03:39
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klerfaytmrmist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo03:39
TheHighChildom_: "sudo chown dparker /media/mountpointofyourntfsdrive"03:39
om_my brother was here yesterday and he got it to work.. i just forgot how...03:39
Lacertai understand you cannot write ntfs so easily03:39
TheHighChildom_: dparker being your username03:39
om_oh actually i just need to read i guess03:39
om_thanks thehighchild!03:39
TheHighChildom_: np, should work for you.03:40
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TheHighChildLacerta: NTFS write support still has bugs. It's possible but slow for some users and can cause minor curruption of the drive03:42
mrmistklerfayt: hmm... but I'm using two settings: I don't want the drivers to use resources on two screens, when I've disconnected the CRT again..03:42
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om_TheHighChild: i stil get permission denied for some reason.. after entering the command you gave, i got: "changing ownership of `/media/ntfs': Read-only file system"03:43
klerfaytmrmist: what happens if you just plug crt in?03:43
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om_so it seemed to work.. until i did: cd /media/ntfs03:43
LacertaTheHighChild: that chown didn't do anything for me. what does it do?03:44
klerfaytmrmist: what card you got?03:44
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TheHighChildom_: try this "sudo umount /media/ntfs && sudo chown <username> /media/ntfs"03:44
TheHighChildom_: Then mount it again with "sudo mount ntfs"03:44
mrmistklerfayt: The main display becomes my CRT, which is fine, really. It's just that the portable's resolution is widescreen, and my CRT is not03:44
TheHighChildLacerta: It makes sure your user can access the mounted location of the drive03:45
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Tommy2k4is there any other mp3 players that can tell kopete what im listening to03:45
TheHighChildLacerta: You can put ownership into the /etc/fstab but I am not trying to go to those depths right now03:45
Tommy2k4amarok is really unstable03:45
klerfaytmrmist: I have to be honest with you - I have never tried dualscreen. But my guess is that you need to edit xorg.conf03:45
om_still all seemed to work, but permission denied when trying to read dir...03:45
RaitoIs there any touchpad app for Kubuntu? Something that can customise the touchpad such as adding a scroll wheel to the side etc?03:46
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om_with konquorer i get "locked folder"03:46
klerfaytanyone knows if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can do dualscreen setup for you?03:46
TheHighChildom_: Can you pastebin your /etc/fstab03:47
Lacertaom_: i put the "-o uid=simo" when i was mounting. that way i got no locked folder03:47
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om_ok lacerta, let me try03:48
deborahhi03:49
contactmm03:49
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Lacertaom_: that's probably something you can do in fstab also. i'm not sure03:49
deborahhello03:49
DRY|KISShi03:49
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contactI have a ma111...dont work with usb hub...?03:50
vlad_what most i do to have 3d acceleration ?03:50
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Lacertai tried to change the mixer in the KMix settings but the sound is still playing in the wrong card03:50
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deborahwhere are u from? I'm from the netherlands (14Year)03:50
DRY|KISSdeborah: #offtopic03:51
IgKhThere is no #offtopic channel03:51
TheHighChild#kubuntu-offtopic03:51
DRY|KISSit was just as a figure of speach03:51
deborahdo u know Final Fantasy?03:51
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DRY|KISSAAGH: you = not u03:52
deborahdo u know Final Fantasy?03:52
deborahdo you know Final Fantasy?03:53
Lacerta--> #kubuntu-final-fantasy03:53
TheHighChildLOL03:53
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eitch0000can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?03:53
Hobbseeeitch0000: install it via apt-get?03:54
klerfaythow is kubuntu related to 14year old girls that know final fantasy?03:54
gnomefreakdeborah: join #kubuntu-offtopic for that please03:54
Tommy2k4is there any other mp3 players that can tell kopete what im listening to03:54
Tommy2k4amarok is really unstable03:54
DRY|KISSi would say so03:54
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DRY|KISSamarok is not unstable03:54
DRY|KISSmaybe on your conputer03:54
Lacertamy amarok crashes when i play wav-files03:54
Lacertabut then i cannot play anynthing with it :)03:55
deborahI know Final Fantasy a long time, I love moovies are made with Linux...03:55
gnomefreakLacerta: w32codecs are needed in armaok iirc03:55
Tommy2k4mine closes instantly when i try to play wma files (they played fine before i upgraded to 1.4)03:55
gnomefreakHobbsee: can you please?03:55
DRY|KISSi can't judge about that03:55
Tommy2k4also locks up at other times for no reason03:55
Hobbseegnomefreak: hmm?03:55
DRY|KISSi don't play wave files03:55
gnomefreakdeborah: should be in -offtopic with FF stuff :(03:55
Lacertais there some cryptic shell command that changes the current mixer?03:55
gnomefreakshe seems to ignore the request :(03:56
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gnomefreakDRY|KISS: yes tehre are03:56
DRY|KISSwhy don't they show up?03:56
deborahsorry03:56
eitch0000can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?03:56
gnomefreakDRY|KISS: they show when needed03:56
DRY|KISSoh03:56
zorglu1deborah: be real real sorry, this is real serious stuff03:57
DRY|KISSlol03:57
zorglu1being offtopic is awfully offending03:57
HobbseeDRY|KISS: there are certainly ops around03:57
zorglu1like at least 3 time03:57
DRY|KISSok03:57
zorglu1damn never you will be forgiven03:57
Hobbseeeitch0000: install it via apt-get03:57
Hobbseezorglu1: quit it.03:57
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zorglu1Hobbsee: ?03:57
DRY|KISSstop bashing/flaming03:58
Hobbseenicely said.03:58
zorglu1well i like ubuntu03:58
=== Hobbsee would have called it "being generally annoying".
zorglu1so i bashing people when they play too strict enforcem,ent of rules03:58
zorglu1hehe03:58
gnomefreakzorglu1: those type of comments are uncalled for and generally taken offisive03:58
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zorglu1so yeah i like to ridiculize those kind of behviour :)03:59
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Hobbseezorglu1: i'd be fairly sure that that's prohibited by the code of conduct03:59
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Hobbseehi OdyX03:59
eitch0000Hobbsee: well... I need a new version, which I can compile against my new compiled kernel. the wiki on ubuntu,com has an article on how to compile a new kernel, but not how to make linux-restricted-modules work with the new kernel03:59
zorglu1so i did riduculize this offtopic stufff and this will to kick :)03:59
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OdyXyop Hobbsee03:59
zorglu1Hobbsee: oh im sure too :) this is even in the meaning of 'ubuntu' :)04:00
ajayccan someone tell me a really cool link about kubuntu04:00
ajaycmay be unofficial04:00
zorglu1Hobbsee: be nice to people :)04:00
Hobbseeeitch0000: ah ok, if it's a compiled one, i dont know...but the restricted modules for the kernels in apt-get have the associated restricted modules04:00
Hobbseezorglu1: sure.04:00
zorglu1Hobbsee: aka 'dont kick somebody just because he is talking 3 time about final fantazy' :)04:00
eitch0000Hobbsee: yep, I know... oh well have to search on...04:00
ajayc!intel04:00
ubotuI know nothing about intel04:00
ajayc!fool04:00
ubotuI know nothing about fool04:00
Hobbseezorglu1: a)  deborah is female, iirc, and b) did you see me kick them?04:00
gnomefreakzorglu1: noone kicked her04:01
zorglu1Hobbsee: well i did see a threat of it :)04:01
Hobbseeajayc: wiki.ubuntu.com?04:01
DRY|KISS!apt-get moo04:01
ubotuI know nothing about apt-get moo04:01
ajaycok Hobbsee04:01
DRY|KISSdamn04:01
deborahi wasn't kicked at all!04:01
DRY|KISS!moo04:01
ubotuI know nothing about moo04:01
Hobbsee!msgthebot04:01
=== gnomefreak didnt see a threat of it either btw
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots04:01
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zorglu1(15:56:36) gnomefreak: Hobbsee: can you please?04:02
zorglu1(15:57:08) gnomefreak: deborah: should be in -offtopic with FF stuff :(04:03
zorglu1(15:57:32) gnomefreak: she seems to ignore the request :(04:03
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gnomefreakzorglu1: i didnt ask her to kick her04:03
=== Hobbsee would be surprised if gnomefreak was opless in here anyway
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gnomefreakHobbsee: thinking i am04:03
gnomefreakyep i am04:03
uniqthat's because you're a gnomefreak :)04:03
gnomefreaklol04:03
zorglu1oh so i completly misunstoog the whole thing ?04:03
DRY|KISSwell i can't complain, at least she wasn't like: "OMG Do U KnO\/\/ F1|\|47 F4NT45Y!!!!!one11!!!eleven"04:04
gnomefreakonly 2 channels im not lol04:04
Hobbseewell, there you go04:04
Hobbseegnomefreak: heh.  and the dev ones, presumably.04:04
RaitoHow come SuperTux music (and sound) is so loud? And how come it is completely unafected no matter how much I move the volume down?04:04
Hobbseezorglu1: i believe so04:04
gnomefreaktrue04:04
zorglu1if so, paint me sorry. i just wanted to make sure that people did stay nice with each other04:04
HobbseeDRY|KISS: dont even *think* about talking like that, or i'll burn your eyes out with my myspace.04:04
Hobbsee:P04:04
DRY|KISSno sir04:05
DRY|KISSi wouldn't dar04:05
Hobbsee:P04:05
DRY|KISS*dare04:05
Lacertaargh. what's with the mixer? do i have to reboot or something?04:06
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DRY|KISShttp://www.bash.org/?663794 <-- would keep watching this one04:09
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DRY|KISSthat's a quote from this channel04:09
DRY|KISSit's still pending04:09
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HobbseeDRY|KISS: what's the quote?04:11
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DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> well i can't complain, at least she wasn't like: "OMG Do U KnO\/\/ F1|\|47 F4NT45Y!!!!!one11!!!eleven"04:11
DRY|KISS<Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: dont even *think* about talking like that, or i'll burn your eyes out with my myspace.04:11
Hobbseehahaha04:12
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uniqhey, go to -offtopic with that quote stuff :)04:12
DRY|KISS*sigh*04:12
uniqheh.. dinner. later. :)04:12
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BASEmantrying to install kubuntu. have to resize an ntfs partition. using alternate install CD. automatic partionning fails. manually selecting "resize..." asks me if I want to perform those undoable changes but I haven't specified a size yet. what's wrong?04:14
HobbseeDRY|KISS: if that does get approved, do tell, so i can add it?04:14
DRY|KISSi'll let you know04:14
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Paradossoanybody happens to know where I can find an amarok 1.4.1beta deb package?04:16
HobbseeParadosso: kubuntu.org i think04:17
Hobbseeor is it not there yet?04:17
chakieheh, managing printers through the localhost:631 cups interface gives me an error message that says: {error}04:17
chakiewhy can't printing work as well as it does under windows04:17
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chakieman, the web interface is so broken in kubuntu it's not even funny04:18
VieLGus-KuTasweb is pretty good04:19
VieLGus-KuTasfor linux04:19
VieLGus-KuTasprinting work for me too04:19
VieLGus-KuTass04:19
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VieLGus-KuTasalmost as well as windows04:20
VieLGus-KuTaswindows had a better driver of course04:20
chakiei can't even check the printers using localhost:63104:20
DRY|KISS!windows04:20
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:20
DRY|KISSlol04:21
chakiejust "Bad request" and "Unauthorized"04:21
deborahwindows  sucks... Billl gates also...04:21
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VieLGus-KuTasParadosso: i just installed 141 today04:21
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VieLGus-KuTasParadosso: i dont think there are debs for it yet, i compiled everything from source04:22
HobbseeVieLGus-KuTas: there are04:22
Hobbseeimbrandon_: has some, too04:22
VieLGus-KuTasHobbsee: ive seen 140  debs but not 14104:22
Hobbseesee http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html04:22
DRY|KISSthe best linux command: apt-get moo04:22
HobbseeVieLGus-KuTas: yeah, they're not on kubuntu.org yet04:22
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DRY|KISSyay finally04:23
VieLGus-KuTasParadosso: well , there u go , get the debs from those repos04:24
DRY|KISSi have an idea when someone enters04:24
DRY|KISSwait for it04:24
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DRY|KISSand it discharged right into my face04:25
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DRY|KISSdamn, didn't work :'(04:25
VieLGus-KuTashave u been smoking the green stuff lately?04:26
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DRY|KISSmaybe... i just noticed i somehow installed emacs04:26
DRY|KISSi must have been very drunk04:26
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imachinehi.04:31
imachineanyone tried compiz with kde ?04:31
imachinethere seems to be some faq on ubuntu forums, but it includes gconf and gnome-window-manager.04:32
imachinewhich is just plain wrong imho ;p04:32
imachinei tried fiddling with it, using normal repos (not the ones mentioned in the faq, the universe from dapper also includes compiz-kde and xserver-xgl) got it to work half-way, that is, the windows seem to loose their decorations.04:33
imachineand the taskbars dont work right.04:33
imachinecompiz works tho.04:33
imachineany suggestions?04:33
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DRY|KISScompiz on linux is like luna on windows XP imho04:35
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DRY|KISShow do i register my nickname on freenode?04:39
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gnomefreak!register04:39
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:39
DRY|KISSthanks04:39
gnomefreakyw04:40
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imachineDRYKISS, it works tho04:43
imachinei dont know what luna is04:43
DRYKISS /msg nickserv link DRY|KISS 11235813louisa!04:43
DRYKISSoops04:43
DRYKISSnobody saw that04:43
imachinegood work;)04:43
imachinebrb04:43
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DRYKISS_ok all done04:47
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DRY|KISSluna is the default blue green theme04:48
Hobbseei think that should be changed, somehow.04:49
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Hobbseei think that should be changed, somehow.04:49
HobbseeDRY|KISS: FYI - these logs are public - anyone could do what i just did04:50
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HobbseeDRY|KISS: it'd be an *extremely* good idea to change your password04:50
RaitoHow do you change the Supertux volume? It is unaffected by Kmix04:50
DRY|KISSyes04:50
DRY|KISSi will04:50
HobbseeDRY|KISS: cool :)04:50
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DRY|KISShow do i change my password?04:53
dr_willispasswd command04:53
DRY|KISSon irc04:53
dr_willis- /msg nickserv help04:54
dr_willisand see what commands it has.04:54
DRY|KISSfound it04:55
DRY|KISSnickser set password <pass>04:55
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HobbseeDRY|KISS: so did you fix it?05:01
DRY|KISSyup05:01
Hobbseeyep05:01
HobbseeDRY|KISS: FYI, if you were wondering, i ghosted you before.05:01
=== DRY|KISS knows a little more about nickserv now ^^
Hobbseehehe useful :)05:01
DRY|KISSyay, brainiac ^^05:02
DRY|KISS(now on tv)05:02
DRY|KISSthe test is: can you bake a cake while being electrocuted?05:03
DRY|KISSanswer: no05:03
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_joelQuick question: Does KDE have something like Gnome's Deskbar? If you don't know what Deskbar is you can see a screencast of it here: http://nigel.tao.googlepages.com/deskbar-2-14-screencast.html05:08
omeow*click*05:08
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omeowOh the search thing.05:08
omeowHm, I dunno.05:08
_joelyea05:08
_joeldeskbar is pretty neat man05:09
Hobbsee*waits for the flash to load*05:09
Hobbseehow painful05:09
_joelheh05:09
omeowWhat do you mean painful?05:09
Hobbsee_joel: katapult05:09
Hobbsee!katapult05:10
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.05:10
RaitoHow do you change the Supertux volume? It is unaffected by Kmix05:10
Hobbseefairly close in functionality05:10
HobbseeRaito: can you change it within supertux?05:10
DRY|KISSwhat is your favorite tool under linux?05:10
_joelcool, let me give it a try05:10
DRY|KISSmine is yakuake05:10
RaitoHobsee: It can only be turned on or off05:10
HobbseeDRY|KISS: xkill05:10
DRY|KISSlol05:10
dr_willisDRY|KISS,  'mc' :)05:10
nixternalDRY|KISS: i am with you...yakuake all the way05:11
_joelDRY|KISS: whats yakuake?05:11
LynoureDoes anyone else have problems with sound disappearing after a suspend?05:11
DRY|KISSa terminal quake style above your desktop05:11
HobbseeRaito: you should be able to change it in kmix, on the PCM setting05:11
DRY|KISSif you press f12 it comes down05:11
RaitoHobbsee: No effect :/05:11
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omeowCan't katapult search my bookmarks?05:12
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omeow(my opera bookmarks for that matter)05:13
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DRY|KISSi would search on google: "linux bookmarks manager"05:13
DRY|KISSthen if you found a program name05:14
robotgeekomeow: afaik, it only does firefox and konqueror05:14
DRY|KISStry your luck on apt-get packagename05:14
omeowSurely there's a way to make it look at Opera's bookmarks. However, I can't find any menu to configure it.05:14
DRY|KISStry your luck on apt-get install packagename05:14
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DRY|KISSif that doesn't work... manually compile it :p05:15
DRY|KISSgot to go, BRB05:15
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Hobbseestupid thing.  grr.05:15
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LynoureDoes anyone know what's causing the loss of sound when recoved from suspend and how to fix it permanently?05:16
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HobbseeLynoure: probably the sound module not being reloaded after suspend?05:16
=== Hobbsee doesnt know how to fix it.
=== Hobbsee would file a bug for that, attaching all the sound-type things
uniqlynoure: unload the driver module before suspending, and re-load it after wakeup.05:16
Hobbseethere you go05:17
uniqhobbsees suggestion is the best, there are loads of workarounds but you should file a bug as we all want everything to work out of the box without workarounds :)05:17
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DRY|KISS|AFKHobbsee: do i have to change my pass on all my linked nicks?05:17
Lynoureuniq: Jep, I was just hoping I wouldn't have to...05:17
HobbseeDRY|KISS|AFK: no05:18
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DRY|KISS|AFKok05:18
LynoureFiled about 1o bugs so far, hoping that something would be a known problem05:18
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HobbseeDRY|KISS|AFK: yeah, it changed the p/w for all of the nicks05:18
uniqlynoure: a hint is to find a script in /etc/power/scripts.d/ and add the unload and reload of the sound module to it.05:19
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HobbseeLynoure: there may already be a bug for it05:19
=== Hobbsee doesnt follow sound type stuff.
LynoureHobbsee: found: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/2157405:20
LynoureHobbsee: I have nc8230 but that's close enough05:20
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DRY|KISSback05:20
DRY|KISSmaybe BRB was better ...05:20
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DRY|KISSby the way: my nick has absolutely nothing to do with kissing05:22
DRY|KISSDRY: don't repeat yourself05:22
DRY|KISSKISS: keep it simple stupid05:23
HobbseeLynoure: add it, looks close enough to me too05:23
HobbseeLynoure: as in, add your soundcard module, and the stuff they ask for  - like dmesg05:23
DRY|KISSI find it gruesome that there are indeed some webservers running on windows and iis05:24
DRY|KISSwindows xp running on a server is like...05:24
DRY|KISSa tightrope walker walking on barbed wire05:25
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LynoureHobbsee: nothing interestin in dmesg :/05:25
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HobbseeLynoure: paste it anyway - whichever files they're asking for from the other guy05:26
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DRY|KISS    (__)05:28
DRY|KISS    (oo)05:28
DRY|KISS /------\/05:28
DRY|KISS / |  ||05:28
DRY|KISS * /\---/\05:28
DRY|KISS  ~~ ~~05:28
DRY|KISS...."Have you mooed today?"...05:28
DRY|KISSapt-get moo :p05:28
LynoureHobbsee: Bit long to paste. Attach? or is there a separate designated paste bin for launchpad, too05:28
DRY|KISSjust paste it05:29
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DRY|KISSi like way too much info05:29
HobbseeLynoure: you can "cat dmesg > dmesg" and attach the file to the bug report05:29
Hobbseelong pastes are incredibly long and annoying05:29
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DRY|KISShave to go eat05:30
LynoureHobbsee: Yep, I know, but somehow hated that interface, too :)05:30
boredomHow do i change my default soundcard?05:30
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LynoureHobbsee: And the command needs tuning :) dmesg >> dmesg,txt was my choice05:31
Hobbseethat works too05:31
Hobbsee!logs05:31
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs05:31
LynoureHobbsee: cat dmsg > dmesg    doesn't as dmesg is not a file05:32
Lynoures/dmsg/dmesg05:32
Hobbseeoh, i thought it created it.  hmm.05:32
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LynoureHobbsee: oh, it is a file too, but used that way usually a command :) (boy am I being unclear)05:34
Hobbseeheh05:34
Hobbseeyeah, rahter05:34
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Hobbseehmmm...05:36
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DRY|KISSback ^^05:41
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DRY|KISSdmnit...05:42
DRY|KISS$mouse.battery.charged = false05:43
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=== DRY|KISS still wonders what final fantasy has to do with kubuntu...
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DRY|KISSsilence...05:48
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DRY|KISShi05:49
uniqhi.05:49
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DRY|KISSyay someone with moo in their name05:50
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moopere:)05:50
DRY|KISSapt-get moo ^^05:50
Moo.05:50
DRY|KISS    (__)05:50
DRY|KISS    (oo)05:50
DRY|KISS /------\/05:50
DRY|KISS / |  ||05:50
DRY|KISS * /\---/\05:50
DRY|KISS  ~~ ~~05:50
DRY|KISS...."Have you mooed today?"...05:50
mooperewhat is the apt-get moo easteregg?05:50
h3sp4wnaptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo05:51
uniqdry|kiss: please don't flood then channel with cows even if there is no other activity. Thanks :)05:51
DRY|KISSuniq: awwww05:51
mooperefabulous.  That would be the super cow powers that apt-get talks about05:52
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DRY|KISSuniq: at least i'm not posting an ascii goatse05:52
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TheHighChildLOL05:53
TheHighChildI love goatse05:53
uniqdry|kiss: well, you know what i mean i presume :)05:53
DRY|KISSyeah05:53
DRY|KISSTheHighChild: .3(&)E05:54
DRY|KISSwell that wasn't good was it?05:54
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DRY|KISSwhy isn't there a channel dedicated to goatse?05:55
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DRY|KISSi think i scared _igKh_05:57
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kronozcna flash be installed in 64bit kubuntu?05:58
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DRY|KISSno05:58
kronozwhat about w32codecs?05:59
h3sp4wnIt can all be installed under a chroot - and you can use schroot to make it appear seemless05:59
h3sp4wn(wastes quite a bit of space though)06:00
kentcan Ruby debug in Emacs ?06:00
kronozwell space isn't really a problem06:00
kentanybody help me?06:01
DRY|KISShttp://www.100mb.nl/ <-- ascii tux i found06:01
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DRY|KISScan someone post that link to Enemy territory again? i lost it06:02
kenthelp06:05
Lynourekent: help with what?06:05
kentcan Ruby debug in Emacs ?06:05
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kenti'm a newbie of ubuntu,Emacs06:06
kentand how to register this channel06:07
Lynourekent: kent I've never mixed ruby with Emacs... but given that some people use Emacs for irc, I assume anything is possible06:07
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kentthanks...06:07
Lynourekent: It's registered already, to someone else.06:08
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DRY|KISSklingons speak unix:06:08
DRY|KISS"Grep ls awk chmod Mknod ksh tar imap Wall fsck yacc"06:09
kronozlol06:09
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kenti'm not a registered user and i can't send private message to you.06:10
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kentwhat have you said?06:10
DRY|KISStype /msg nickserv <password>06:10
DRY|KISStype /msg nickserv register <password>06:10
DRY|KISSsorry06:10
DRY|KISS!register06:11
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:11
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DRY|KISSwho speaks dutch here?06:12
weihellothanks06:12
weihelloboy, i love dutch  football team06:13
DRY|KISS:p06:13
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DRY|KISS!having had sexual relations with that woman06:14
ubotuI know nothing about having had sexual relations with that woman06:14
DRY|KISSlol06:14
DRY|KISSthat bot is fun06:14
weihellolol06:16
psb154england scores.....06:16
weihelloyeah06:17
psb154bout *^*& time06:17
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weihellobut i don't like england.06:17
weihelloteam06:17
psb154well they are shait right now06:17
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leo__New user here06:19
DRY|KISSis it weird that i enjoy doing sudo cat /dev/mem > memdump and then read memdump?06:19
leo__I need some help with the simple stuff right now.06:20
DRY|KISSyes06:20
uniqdry|kiss: yes. that's weird :)06:20
DRY|KISS:p06:20
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azzcoHi there06:21
kronozcan schroot be apt-get'd?06:21
leo__I want to install real player and nvidia drivers06:21
DRY|KISSit's strangely soothening every time a 0F character comes by my pc beeps06:22
osh_DRY|KISS: No. Why would it be. It's a good way to find out what eats your memory.06:22
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DRY|KISSleo___ use automatix06:22
Lynourekronoz: find out with apt-cache search   or googling, if you haven't tried those already06:22
DRY|KISSand easyubuntu for the drivers06:22
kronozLynoure, not in kubuntu atm06:22
azzcoI really don't know anything about graphics I only know that I have an intel 915 chipset and I want some new drivers to be able to play some games...can someone help me?06:22
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DRY|KISS!automatix06:22
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.06:22
leo__Ok where do I get the easyubuntu?06:22
DRY|KISS!easyubuntu06:22
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.06:23
Lynourekronoz: There is an online package list for ubuntu somewhere on the web, iirc06:23
DRY|KISShttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/06:23
leo__Ok thanks06:23
Lynourekronoz: schroot - Execute commands in a chroot environment, that is, yes06:24
DRY|KISSmaybe it's irresponsible06:24
kronozLynoure: thanks06:24
DRY|KISSbut i just do06:24
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DRY|KISSapt-get install schroot-*06:24
Lynourekronoz: you are welcome. :)06:25
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DRY|KISSthe next time i'm being stopped by the police06:27
DRY|KISSi'm gonna ask06:27
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DRY|KISSdo you want to sell me tickets to the police ball?06:27
DRY|KISSand then wait for him to say:06:28
DRY|KISSwe at the police don't have balls06:28
DRY|KISS<\offtopic>06:28
bobstroDRY|KISS:  yes, i'm sure they'll let you be in complete control of the conversation.06:28
Tommy2k4if im in kate and i want to save a file hat i dont have permission to, is there a way of saving it using root without having to reopen the file with kdesu06:29
DRY|KISSno06:29
DRY|KISSkdesu is the only way06:29
DRY|KISSbtw it's 200606:30
bobstroTommy2k4:  just save it off somewhere you do have permissions, then copy/mv it.06:30
DRY|KISSand that yes06:30
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weihellonow it's 00:3006:30
DRY|KISS18:29 here06:30
bobstroTommy2k4:  that, or open a shell and chmod the permissions then save it in kate. kinda ugly, but it works.06:31
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bobstroTommy2k4:  chmod or chown, as appropriate.06:31
Tommy2k4k06:31
DRY|KISSoh yeah don't do this:06:31
DRY|KISSchmod -x chmod06:31
h3sp4wnHow can you disable the adept update manager ?06:31
DRY|KISSi did it once06:31
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bobstroDRY|KISS:  rescue disks to the rescue. :)06:32
DRY|KISS^^06:32
DRY|KISSi have hourly updates06:32
DRY|KISS*backups06:32
bobstroDRY|KISS:  back in my novell days, one of my scenarios for tests was to delete the login executable.06:32
SkyskyskyHello, is there a method in Kubuntu to do the boot sequence in interactive mode?  like pressing 'i' in some os's?06:33
DRY|KISSsecure mode06:33
h3sp4wnDRY|KISS: The superuser can always reset permissions just do chmod +x chmod and it would be fine again06:33
bobstroh3sp4wn:  no fair speaking from experience!06:34
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DRY|KISSi think they ask you for bootup option06:34
DRY|KISSs06:34
Skyskyskyso, just press s?06:35
DRY|KISSno06:35
DRY|KISSthat s was an addition to option06:35
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Skyskyskyi dont get it unfortunately06:36
johnflux_Skyskysky: there's no equivalent to the interactive mode06:37
johnflux_Skyskysky: the best there is is booting in recovery mode06:37
johnflux_Skyskysky: you should have two options in grub when you boot06:37
johnflux_Skyskysky: one for the linux normal, and one recovery/rescue or something06:37
Skyskyskyjohnflux_: both are stalling out, my fstab is pooched I think06:37
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johnflux_Skyskysky: where does the rescue one fall out?06:38
gybothi is there a way to get something to open on a designated desktop.06:38
gybotonly?06:39
johnflux_Skyskysky: can you remember roughly what it says?06:39
Skyskyskyjohnflux_:fuse init (API version 7.3)06:39
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Lynouregybot: other than going onto that desktop and opening there, you mean?06:39
johnflux_Skyskysky: are you using that box now?  can you see the box from where you?06:39
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driz_yes06:40
Lacertacan i somehow disable my other audio device?06:40
Skyskyskyjohnflus_:normal on 'Cehcking all filesystems"06:40
Tommy2k4how do i stop it switching windows when i scroll mousehwwl over taskbar/window title06:40
Tommy2k4mousewheel*06:40
Skyskyskyjohnflux_:Im booted into the windows part06:40
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johnflux_Skyskysky: on the same machine?  hmm makes it difficult for me to help you debug hehe06:40
gybotLynoure: yes06:40
johnflux_Skyskysky: in grub, you can press "c"06:41
johnflux_Skyskysky: and enter your own commands06:41
Skyskyskyjohnflux_:for me too, :P06:41
johnflux_Skyskysky: hmm actually first step06:41
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dr34mc0d3ri built a ubuntu 6.06 for my duaghter (2 yrs) - im needing some sort of Sound Event Manager - so she will have diff sounds for various events. Got any ideas?06:41
johnflux_Skyskysky: Okay try this..   in grub, select the rescue option, but don't press enter06:41
johnflux_Skyskysky: press "e" to edit it06:42
dr34mc0d3revents like minimize, maximize, open prog, close prog.....06:42
johnflux_Skyskysky: it will show you several commands06:42
Skyskyskyjohnflux_:thanks06:42
johnflux_Skyskysky: select the one that says kernel in it06:42
johnflux_Skyskysky: and press e again06:42
johnflux_Skyskysky: that will let you edit it06:42
johnflux_Skyskysky: on the end, append "init=/bin/bash"06:43
johnflux_Skyskysky: that will tell it to skip 99% of the boot, and dump you into a console06:43
gybotLynoure: yes06:43
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johnflux_Skyskysky: it even bypasses asking for a password, so it's great if you forget the root password btw ;)06:43
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johnflux_Skyskysky: do that now :)06:44
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Skyskyskyjohnflux_:right on, erm what program to edit a file in console lol06:44
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Tommy2k4that was bad06:44
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Tommy2k4kubuntu sort of crashed06:45
Lynouregybot: It's an interesting question, I would be interested in the answer too but unfortunately do not know of one yet06:45
johnflux_Skyskysky: you can use "joe" or "nano"06:45
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Skyskyskyjohnflux_:great thanks tonnes :D06:45
johnflux_Skyskysky: you will need to run:   mount -o remount, rw /     in order to make changes06:45
johnflux_Skyskysky: you will need to enter that to make your root /  read-write06:45
h3sp4wnSkyskysky: You may want to learn some simple commands in vim06:45
gybotLynoure: Ok then. That would be cool06:45
Tommy2k4my monitor went blank then lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then blank again then monitor said frequency out of range 0hz or something06:46
Tommy2k4like the 3rd/4th time its happened since ive been using kubuntu06:46
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johnflux_Tommy2k4: what video card?06:46
Tommy2k4integrated06:47
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Lynourehmmm06:47
DRY|KISSdo lspci | grep video06:47
Lynouregybot: I miht have seen something related in the System Settings06:47
DRY|KISSand post the output06:47
johnflux_Tommy2k4: i'm guessng i83006:47
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Tommy2k482810E06:48
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gybotLynoure: ok i'll check it out06:48
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johnflux_Tommy2k4: what's the whole line?06:49
Tommy2k4DRY|KISS, when i do that nothing happens06:49
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DRY|KISSweird06:49
Lynouregybot: Desktop->Window-specific settings have something about desktops, at least06:49
Tommy2k4!paste06:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:49
johnflux_Tommy2k4: lspci | grep VGA06:49
johnflux_Tommy2k4: failing that, just do  lspci   and look for something video-ish :)06:50
Tommy2k40000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)06:50
johnflux_hmm yeah that's a standard06:50
johnflux_Tommy2k4: the drivers are well tested and supported06:50
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Tommy2k4i thought so06:51
Tommy2k4any ideas what could be causingn it06:51
gybotLynoure: cool i think thats it. now i dont have to worry about moving things around they will open where i set tehm to. Thanks06:52
weihelloEngland win the game.06:52
johnflux_tell me about it06:52
Tommy2k4yea06:52
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Tommy2k4wayne rooney has to be one of the ugliest people in the world06:53
DRY|KISSopinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink06:53
johnflux_there's 20+ year olds yelling and screaming outside06:53
johnflux_I hate my estate06:53
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johnflux_:(06:53
Tommy2k4lol06:53
DRY|KISSbutt they're fun to poke at06:53
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johnflux_DRY|KISS: what exactly do you dry kiss ?06:53
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Lynouregybot: You are welcome. :)06:53
DRY|KISSDRY: don't repeat yourself06:53
johnflux_you poke at people's assholes?06:53
DRY|KISSKISS: keep it simple stupid06:54
izaiasola06:54
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DRY|KISSnot usually06:54
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gybotLynoure: thats onething i couldn't do on Windows. :-D06:54
Tommy2k4now does anyone have any ideas of why my monitor would start saying frequency out of range 0hz06:54
johnflux_izaac: ola amigo!06:54
bobstrodr34mc0d3r:  you mean normal system events, or something else?06:54
izaiasestou tentando cofigurar o kubuntu pela primeiraves alguem pode me ajudar06:54
bobstroTommy2k4:  0hz?06:55
DRY|KISSSetLocale(locale=EN_us)06:55
Tommy2k4something like that06:55
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Tommy2k4could be a refresh rate problem?06:56
izaiasola izaac06:56
Tommy2k4there was another number before the 0hz06:56
Tommy2k4it was like06:57
Tommy2k471Khz / 0hz06:57
izaiasvc pode me ajudar06:57
Tommy2k4dunno the first number tho i just made 71 up06:57
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weihelloi really do not like england team. they just a star team. the Holland team is the best team.06:57
Lacertayo, how do i change the current audio mixer?06:57
Tommy2k4england ftw06:57
weihelloftw,what's it mean?06:58
omegaFor the win06:58
izaiasa alguem dobrasil ai q possa me ajudar06:58
DRY|KISSOMG06:58
DRY|KISSi just ripped the most putrid fart ever and my fucking dog looked at me and walked out of my room06:58
weihelloOMG==oh my god?06:58
DRY|KISSyes06:59
omegaThanks for sharing DRY|KISS.06:59
DRY|KISS*chuckles*06:59
bobstroDRY|KISS:  and i got kicked for talking about evangelizing linux. sheesh.06:59
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weihelloi'm hungry hungry. Lynoure now is enjoying his dinner..... :(07:00
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bobstroTommy2k4:  that's probably a sign you've selected an invalid resolution for the screen. this is when firing up x/kde?07:01
olivierhello world07:02
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Tommy2k4no it happened after id been booted up for a while07:02
bobstroolivier:  hello, unless you're testing a program. :)07:02
bobstroTommy2k4:  not the screen saver by any chance?07:02
Tommy2k4incidentally it happened when i was trying to take a screensht07:02
Tommy2k4but its happened in the past and i dont think i was taking a screenshot then07:03
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olivierinfact i'm discovering linux world07:03
weihellocan i send a pic here ?07:04
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bobstroweihello:  a pic of WHAT?07:08
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weihellosreenshot07:08
bobstroweihello:  there's no real pic viewing here. why do you want to show it?07:09
bobstrois there a way to set the proxy for *all* kde network apps in one place?07:10
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johnflux_weihello: to post a pic, you upload to an image sharing site, then post the url07:10
omeowCan anyone try adding something to pastebin.com? My browser keeps loading forever.07:11
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johnflux_weihello: imageshack.us  is the most popular07:12
weihellowait..07:12
fiyawerxhey guys, anyone know where i would put a superkaramba theme to make it accessable to all users?07:12
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weihelloi visited it very well.07:13
JohnFluxfiyawerx: it should say in the instructions for the theme you downloaded07:14
JohnFluxfiyawerx: do you know where to put it to make it accessable for a single user?07:14
fiyawerxwell i just have it on my desktop, and you can "add a local theme to the manager" then pick it manually, then it stays in the manager07:14
fiyawerxbut only for me07:14
Tommy2k4how can i get xmms to play wma, amarok plays it finer07:15
Tommy2k4fine*07:15
Tommy2k4actually wait no it doesnt thats the problem07:15
Tommy2k4amarok played wma till i upgraded it till 1.4 then it just closes instantly whenever i try07:15
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skyskyskyjohnflux_:well that worked! at least its booting to something :P07:21
skyskyskyjohnflux:wont let me edit the file tho.. saying its a "read only filesystem"07:22
Tommy2k4kdesu07:22
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skyskyskycommand line :(07:22
skyskyskyall I know how to do there is type "rufus" lol07:22
Tommy2k4i love command line07:23
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skyskyskyyou know how I can edit fstab from it? just with bash?07:24
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Tommy2k4kdesu kate /etc/fstab07:26
skyskyskykde is not running07:26
Tommy2k4sudo kate /etc/fstab07:26
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Tommy2k4o i guess u cant run kate either then?07:26
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skyskyskynope07:27
Tommy2k4sudo vi /etc/fstab07:27
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skyskysky2owie, damn power outages... never move here. erm anyway.  Does anyone know how I can edit fstab in bash with no kde running at all... and seeimingly limited commands?07:37
h3sp4wnsudo vim /etc/fstab07:38
skyskysky2there is no sudo command, but im in root, and nano wont let me save it at all07:38
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Tommy2k4ubuntu doesnt have a root user :s07:40
skyskysky2I dont think I have ubuntu loaded at all... added init=/bin/bash to my grub just to get a command line07:40
Tommy2k4you could try chmod'ing the file to be writeable07:41
skyskysky2gives me an error saying its on a "read only filesystem"07:42
skyskysky2and I yelled, but its my filesystem!07:42
Tommy2k4you could use the livecd07:43
weihelloi can't save no permission file in gedit. what can i do ?07:44
skyskysky2hmmm good plan may have to... now just wish I didnt hand em all out :D07:44
Tommy2k4kdesu07:44
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weihellokdesu?07:44
Tommy2k4to run something as root07:45
Tommy2k4kdesu gedit /path/to/file07:45
weihellojust like : sudo gedit somefile?07:45
Tommy2k4yep07:45
Tommy2k4i always use sudo anyway07:45
JohnFluxskyskysky: i got disconnected07:45
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JohnFluxskyskysky: I told you you have to do   mount -o remount,rw /07:45
JohnFluxTommy2k4: are you talking to skyskysky ?07:45
Tommy2k4no07:45
weihellowhich language u said?07:45
weihellokdesu07:45
skyskysky2johnflux I didnt see that, my power went out07:45
JohnFluxfoo!07:46
JohnFluxskyskysky2: heh07:46
Tommy2k4is there any advantage of using kdesu rather than sudo07:46
JohnFluxskyskysky2: anyway, you need to mount / as rw07:46
karimspeech french?07:46
skyskysky2fohnflux: hehe no doubt, scared the poop outta me, so just type what you said?07:46
JohnFluxskyskysky2: because you have skipped of the boot sequence07:46
JohnFluxskyskysky2: right07:46
skyskysky2johnflux: aite, trying now.07:47
JohnFluxskyskysky2: wait07:47
skyskysky2kk07:47
JohnFluxskyskysky2: when you reboot, there's no shutdown sequence07:47
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JohnFluxskyskysky2: you have bypassed all the scripts07:47
weihellosorry, i'm a newbie of linux. kdesu is a command......07:47
JohnFluxskyskysky2: so you need to do:   mount -o remount,ro /07:47
JohnFluxskyskysky2: then shutdown however07:47
JohnFluxskyskysky2: you need to remount as readonly to be safe07:47
JohnFluxskyskysky2: okaywise you might hurt the filesystem07:48
JohnFluxskyskysky2: okay?07:48
skyskysky2so after I change the file, reboot and do the ro one?07:48
JohnFluxskyskysky2: no, do the first rw one, change the file, do the ro one, reboot07:48
skyskysky2Johnflux: cool beans, brb.. diffrent box this time :D07:49
JohnFluxhehe07:49
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karim2001hello07:50
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skyskysky2johnflux: now I think I have an inkling as to why some parts are hard to edit :P07:51
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JohnFluxskyskysky2: hmm?07:51
weihelloanybody from China?07:52
talljon84I'm trying to get v4l working; however, whenever I launch v4l-conf or xawtv, the screen goes blank and I have to ctrl+shift+backspace to kill x. How do I fix this?07:52
skyskysky2johnflux: was, I hope, an issue with the fstab file that I edited a bit ago.. the system should have a test or survey to let you edit some things :P07:53
JohnFluxskyskysky2: it would be useful07:54
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JohnFluxskyskysky2: go make ;)07:54
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skyskysky2johnflux: rufus will hopefully be the only command I have to type from now on =-)07:55
skyskysky2YAHOO07:55
JohnFluxwhat's rufus?07:55
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NKjoephola07:56
JohnFluxhola amigo07:56
NKjoep:D07:56
skyskysky2JohnFlux: for torrents; and thanks it booted into kde again... Im kissing my desktop now :D07:56
skyskysky2johnflux: no more setting ntfs partitions to rw for Sky07:56
JohnFluxskyskysky2: neat.  I used to use btdownloadcurses07:57
JohnFluxskyskysky2: now I use azeurus though in the gui07:57
JohnFlux /j #japanese07:57
JohnFluxdoh07:58
skyskysky2johnflux: I should try it... rufus is kinda... slower then a crack whore the day before wefare cheques get mailed07:58
JohnFluxskyskysky2: azereus runs slowly (it's java)07:58
JohnFluxskyskysky2: but downloads decently07:58
skyskysky2johnflux: hmmm, rufus is python, slow and dl slow... but I think its more the way they did the interface then anything that makes the app slow.07:59
skyskysky2johnflux: anyway, thanks again.  Ima go break something else :)08:00
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DRY|KISSROFLOLWOALDFVGWKLDBNMKEB NEWNBCUNTBLINGLOJEVFFRILS08:01
DRY|KISShttp://www.bash.org/?19015708:01
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omeowHello. :)08:05
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omegaHi08:06
omeowHello omeow08:08
omeowHi omega08:08
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nico8481lo08:09
gemidjyhowto on making ATI 3D acceleration?08:10
gemidjy*found08:10
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JohnFlux!ati08:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:11
JohnFluxgemidjy: ^^08:11
gemidjyJohnFlux: thanks08:12
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JohnFluxgemidjy: ubotu is very useful08:13
JohnFluxgemidjy: say hello to him, and learn him :)08:13
gemidjyubotu hello dear08:13
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ubotuI know nothing about hello dear08:13
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gemidjyahh sorry ubotu08:13
JohnFluxubotu: hello08:13
ubotuI know nothing about hello08:13
JohnFluxgemidjy: the debian one is much more friendly :/08:13
emonkey!ubotu08:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:13
JohnFluxgemidjy: he has a reply for almost thing you can think of08:14
JohnFluxs/thing/everything/08:14
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gemidjy:)08:14
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gemidjygweat08:14
JohnFluxgemidjy: oh, really, everything.   say "i love you" to dpkg ;)08:14
JohnFluxubotu: are you a bot08:15
ubotuI know nothing about are you a bot08:15
JohnFluxbah08:15
gemidjydo u use Synpatic under Kubuntu?08:15
gemidjySynaptic*08:15
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JohnFluxgemidjy: me?  i've tried it once or twice08:15
soonHi folks trying to export from Kino to DVD - mpeg2enc is missing ... cant seem to find it using Adept ... what should I do?08:15
dr_willis!info mpeg2enc08:16
ubotuPackage mpeg2enc does not exist in dapper08:16
DRY|KISSyou penetrate my mouth08:16
DRY|KISSyour in-and-outs are furious08:16
DRY|KISSsometimes a hair get stuck between my teeth08:16
DRY|KISSyou always leave that white tasty liquid in my mouth08:16
DRY|KISSgood ol' toothbrush08:16
DRY|KISS^^08:17
dr_willisI would say use the  Source Soon.08:17
gemidjy!ubotu linux-restricted08:17
ubotuI know nothing about ubotu linux-restricted08:17
DRY|KISSoops wrong channel08:17
gemidjywhy there isn't package for linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386 in Kubuntu and in Ubuntu's repos there is08:17
dr_willisHmm.. they use the same repos as far as i know.08:17
soonthanks!08:18
dr_willisIm guessing ya got a server thats confused.08:18
gemidjyme too, that is why I ask08:18
dr_willisive heard of a few repo servers that seem to be missing packages every so often08:18
soonthe !info mpeg2enc ... am I supposed to type that into the Adept seach field?08:18
soon(probably a stupid question)08:18
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dr_willis!info k3b08:18
ubotuk3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB08:18
dr_willissoon,  No.. :P its a bot search tool of the packages08:19
dr_willissee.08:19
dr_willisyou could try 'apt-cache search mpeg2'08:19
dr_willisfrom the shell and see what it shows up08:19
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soonI get nothing :-(08:20
GillesMhello I have compiled new kernel from kernel.org .. how can I get kubuntu splash screen after the grub ?08:20
dr_willisthen i guess its back to finding the source and compiling it.08:21
sooni guess08:21
dr_willis!splash08:21
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.08:21
dr_willisgee thtas a useless factoid. :P lol08:21
dr_willisnot sure about the kernel splash image. i always disable that lame thing08:21
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dr_willis!bootsplash08:21
ubotuI know nothing about bootsplash08:21
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GillesMit is bootsplash problem08:24
GillesMno gnome splash problem08:24
Chozabu!uboto08:24
ubotuI know nothing about uboto08:24
Chozabu!the_murder08:24
ubotuI know nothing about the_murder08:24
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Chozabulmao (sorry, i just had to)08:24
GillesM!splash08:25
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.08:25
GillesM!bootsplash08:25
ubotuI know nothing about bootsplash08:25
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DRY|KISSi want a doormat with "home sweet 127.0.0.1"08:30
DRY|KISSor "home sweet localhost"08:30
DRY|KISSor "home sweet ~/."08:30
dr_willisallready seen those on 'think geek'08:31
DRY|KISSon it08:31
DRY|KISSmust ... buy ... now08:31
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DRY|KISShttp://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/6806/ <-- close enough08:33
DRY|KISShttp://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/69e3/ <-- even better08:33
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soonIs anyone familiar with Kino or just video editing at all .....?08:36
DRY|KISShttp://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/7727/ <-- must have this ^^08:36
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DRY|KISShttp://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/59e0/ <-- i want this clock08:39
DRY|KISSi think it is weird that i am interested in items from thinkgeek08:40
s1mranhow do you install kubuntu from the CD? i click the install shortcut on the desktop and nothing happens :S any ideas08:40
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osiriss1mran, thats how i did it on one box08:41
osirisor you can download/burn the alternate iso, and install from that08:41
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s1mranoki thanks08:42
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DRY|KISShttp://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/71a4/ lol08:43
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dimitrishello08:45
soonare there any repositories not automatically in the Adept list? (I know some of them er diabled by default, but are there others)08:45
tobberothsoon: There are tons of extra unofficial repositories.08:47
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tobberothFor example, you need an extra one to get amaroK 1.408:47
gatekeepersoon have a look at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper08:47
gatekeepersoon section 4 how to add extra repositories08:48
DRY|KISSam i the only one here who uses a dvorak keyboard08:48
DRY|KISS?08:48
dr_willisI wuld guess yes.08:48
DRY|KISSit's so cool08:48
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soonthanks ... the one called multiverse should be 'official' though . right?08:48
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dr_willisUgh.. yea...  sure it is.08:48
dr_willis:)08:48
DRY|KISSno really08:48
dr_willisdont start this argument again.. ive seen it ranted about 100+ times in the past08:49
dr_willis:)08:49
DRY|KISSit's just a bit of getting used to08:49
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dr_willisand then the argument goes.. ' then you move to another pc and get totally messed up........'08:49
dr_willisthen the reply is "....."08:49
DRY|KISSi don't move my pc, i don't get out of my house08:50
dr_willisthere ya go..08:50
DRY|KISSHAH!08:50
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dr_willisDORVAK - Perfered by shutins!08:50
DRY|KISSshutins?08:50
dr_willis"Shut In's" - people that never leave the house.08:50
DRY|KISSah ok08:51
dr_willisIts a Mental Disorder. :P08:51
DRY|KISSi never leave my house08:51
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DRY|KISSi sleep on my keyboard08:51
DRY|KISSand when i wake up i see this:08:51
DRY|KISSqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq.....08:51
DRY|KISSactually more like:08:52
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DRY|KISS08:52
DRY|KISSand even then i only sleep 3 hours every 36 hours08:53
DRY|KISScaffeine08:53
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DRY|KISSi get immersed in coffee each day.08:53
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DRY|KISSi would call it: "bukkoffee"08:54
dr_willis Didaskaleinophobia- Fear of going to school.08:54
DRY|KISSchromafobia...08:54
DRY|KISSnot that i know what that is...08:55
dr_willis Ablutophobia- Fear of washing or bathing.08:55
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DRY|KISSi don't go to school08:55
dr_willis Arachibutyrophobia- Fear of peanut butter sticking to the roof of the mouth.08:55
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DRY|KISS--> i "learn" myself and go two times per year to exams08:56
DRY|KISSi don't wash because nobody bothers me... (except when there are exams)08:56
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DRY|KISSok that went too far08:56
DRY|KISSdisregard that last08:57
dr_willis Demophobia- Fear of crowds. (Agoraphobia)08:57
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DRY|KISSand i hate penis butter jelly08:57
DRY|KISS*peanut08:57
DRY|KISSoops08:57
TheHighChildConsider #kubuntu-offtopic for your penis butter jelly08:58
DRY|KISSLOL08:58
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dr_willis Athazagoraphobia- Fear of being forgotton or ignored or forgetting. or being  Put on /Ignore08:59
dr_willis:)\08:59
DRY|KISS:p08:59
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emonkey!Seveas09:00
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:00
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DRY|KISSit means something when you know more people on irc than in real life09:01
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rubsoguys, is there a WLAN monitor ?09:03
dr_willisyes09:03
dr_willis:)09:03
dr_willis!network-manager09:03
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager09:03
DRY|KISSiwlist eth0 scanning?09:04
dr_williscan do it09:04
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h3sp4wnIt doesn't work well with atheros or ralink though09:04
soonI'm stuck here ... I need to install mjpegtools ... it doesnt show up in Adept ... I should be in the multiverse repo as far as I can tell ... would someone with 6.06 check to see if it shows up in your Adept ??09:04
dr_willis!info mjpegtools09:05
ubotumjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1332 kB09:05
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soonwhy doesnt it show up in mine ?!?09:05
sooni dont know what the !info mjpegtools is ...09:06
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rubsolol dr_willis i need an aplet that shows the network connection in the taskbar !09:06
slow-motionbbl09:06
dr_willisrubso,  that can dio it09:06
dr_willisand theres some others that can do it as well I belive09:06
rubsowell, i clicked on the link but nothing shows up ! check it out09:07
dr_williskaramba applets can as well09:07
linuxbambihi all, what do i have to do to make ubuntu able to play .wmv files?09:08
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soonubotu ... what is the URL of the multiverse repo in your setup?09:08
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k0llinlinuxbambi -> you need the win32 codecs. easyubuntu or automatix can install them for you09:09
Tommy2k4how can i get amarok or xmms to play wma files? amarok did until i upgraded to 1.4 and xmms never did :909:10
linuxbambik0llin what names are the packages? i'll install them by myself, just need to know the names09:11
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h3sp4wnYou can also get them from debian http://mirror.eepis-its.edu/debian-marillat/09:12
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h3sp4wnits called w32codecs*.deb09:13
k0llinI honestly can't reme,ber the codec packages names, as I've been using automatix, sorry09:13
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h3sp4wnhttp://mirror.eepis-its.edu/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb09:13
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soonI need someone to check what the URL of the multiverse is in their setup ...09:18
soon..and let me know :-)09:18
Ginileydeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse09:19
Ginileydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse09:19
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soonthanks !09:19
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Ginileyno problem09:19
Ginileydude09:19
whizz-sudo will not ask me for a password, but just run things as su anyway09:20
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soonmine looks the same (except dk.) ... can you find package mjpegtools09:20
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soon'cause I cant !09:20
soonwhizz ... I thing sudo asks only for your (user) code the first time in a session ...09:20
whizz-doesn't do that either...09:21
h3sp4wnIt should also ask for it again every 15 mins or something09:21
soonGiniley can you find package mjpegtools in you setup?09:21
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truzakhello, how can I monitor system activity on the panel? couldn't find a way using ksysguard..09:25
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JreinaldoI need some help: I donwloaded the "iso" image of Kubuntu. I didn find there de kernel-sources. I'll need  it to compile my network card. Where could I download the modules needed to compile the source of the driver? Thanks in advance.09:27
cox377truzak: i can't answer your question but i do have a similar question, before i installed linux i was looking @ screen dumps and saw these desktops with loads information and stats of em.. does anyone had any idea how to do that?09:27
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soonIm sorry to be a pest here, but I cannot (!) find package mjpegtools in the repo's (i've tried the dk. and the nl. - which Giniley uses) ....09:30
soonI've tried using Synaptic and apt-get (same difference i guess) ... no candidate !09:31
truzakcox377: for loads of information, there's "system guard". What I'm lookin for is a panel applet, like a simple gauge that changes color depending on, say, CPU or network utilization.09:31
LjL!info mjpegtools09:31
ubotumjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1332 kB09:31
LjLsoon: bet you don't have multiverse enabled09:31
soonI do !09:32
soonwhat does the !info mean ?!?09:32
soonwhere do I type !info09:32
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LjLhere09:32
gatekeeperJreinaldo: have you tried searching in synaptic?09:32
LjLare you sure you do have multiverse enabled? have you tried "sudo apt-get update"?09:32
soon!info mjpegtools09:32
ubotumjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1332 kB09:33
soon... I knew that !09:33
LjLsoon: can you absolutely, positively say that you have multiverse enabled and your apt cache updated?09:33
soonIn Synaptic I have two repos with multivers enabled http://dk.ubuntu.archive.com/ubuntu09:34
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soon(as deb and deb-src)09:34
LjLsoon: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin09:34
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soonhmm hte pastebin is just #pastebin ... yes?09:35
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LjLno09:35
LjL!pastebin09:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:35
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sooncoming right up !09:35
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soonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1647109:36
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soon... please not ... AMD64 ... should make no diff though (?)09:36
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Jreinaldogatekeeper: I'm using another distro(Mandriva). So, I don have the synaptic.09:37
LjLsoon: uhm... it can, for packages in multiverse, i think09:37
LjLsoon: hold on a second09:37
gatekeeperJreinaldo: don't know much about mandriva presumable you have looked using uprmi?09:38
LjLsoon: no, there *is* mjpegtools for amd6409:38
soonthe pastebin cut some stuff out ... check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16472 instead09:38
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LjLsoon: uh, wait, aren't those two different files?09:40
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Jreinaldogatekeeper: Yes, but through the urpmi I don't get the kernel-souces of the Kubuntu 6.06. Or do I?09:40
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soonwhich two?09:40
LjLsoon: actually - forget that -- they *are* two different files... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16471  and   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1647209:40
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gatekeeperJreinaldo: no you won't get kubuntu 6.06 kernel sources09:41
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LjLsoon: the former has multiverse enabled, the latter does not09:41
soonwhat ?!09:41
LjLsoon: uh, really, look at them again. they're *entirely* different... not just some lines cut out09:41
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Jreinaldogatekeper: This is my problem! Where (the site)  that I get the kernel-sources used by the kubuntu 6.06?09:42
soonwell I just copied the cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin again ... : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1647309:43
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crimsunJreinaldo: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)09:43
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Frederickfolks how do I set the JVM for eclipse?09:43
LjLsoon: ok, that one does not have multiverse enabled09:43
soonbut the lines with http are not commented out ...09:44
soondeb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:44
LjLyeah. if you look carefully, you'll see that is the dapper *backports*09:44
LjLanyway, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16474 should work09:45
LjLalso,09:45
LjL!multiverse09:45
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:45
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gatekeeperJreinaldo: not really sure try http://www.kernel.org/09:46
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rubsowhere msttcorefonts package?!09:47
kenrikehola sala09:47
rubso..09:47
LjL!info msttcorefonts09:47
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB09:47
Jreinaldocrimsun: I'm using another distro(Mandriva). So, I don have the apt-get And even I had, I had to configure the source of the files.09:47
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rubsoLjL its not in the repos !09:47
Frederickanyone here using eclipse?09:47
LjLrubso: it is.09:47
LjL!multiverse09:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:47
gatekeeperJreinaldo: others will be more knowlegable09:47
soonLjL pardon me, if Im daft, but I have no idea how the pastebins came out different ... and I dont quite understand about the backport ... should I remove that bit of text?09:48
rubsoLjL i enabled the multiverse, and i couldn't find it09:48
rubsocheck it out by yourself !!!!!!09:48
Jreinaldogatekeeper: Thank you for your information. I'll try. I only need to know the exact version of the kernel.09:48
LjLsoon: backports are programs that are in Edgy Eft (which is the next version of Ubuntu) and are "back"-ported to the current version (Dapper). you may or may not want to have backports enabled, that's your decision. backports can be unreliable09:49
crimsunJreinaldo: scroll to the bottom of http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-source-2.6.15 and read under "More Information on linux-source-2.6.15"09:49
LjLrubso: how can i check it out for myself?09:49
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LjLrubso: perhaps you should look if you have enabled multiverse correctly09:49
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crimsunJreinaldo: download the orig.tar.gz and the diff.gz09:49
Jreinaldocrimsum: Thank you for your information.09:50
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crimsunJreinaldo: we use 2.6.15.6 + backports of many drivers from 2.6.16 and 2.6.17-git + lots of patches forward-ported from our 2.6.12 tree09:50
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Infectohey09:50
soonLjL ... I changed the distribution from dapper-backports to dapper and now I find mjpegtools ?09:50
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Infectohow to turn offf right and middle button in mouse09:50
soon(should be a :-) not a ?)09:50
Infectoin xorg.conf09:50
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rubsoLjL i know its enabled, i couldn't find the package, thats it !09:51
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Infectoanybody familiar with any solution ?09:51
LjLsoon: no.... no. look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16474 , i have changed your pastebin so that multiverse *is included*. use that. then if you want to disable backports, just comment it out with a #09:51
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LjLrubso: well if you can't find the package, then multiverse is not enabled (or you haven't issued a "sudo apt-get update"), because that package *is* in multiverse09:52
soonRight ... I think the penny just dropped :-) THANKS !09:52
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DRY|KISSapparently a teacher in britain was arrested. on him they found a pencil, eraser, ruler, protractor and compass. They said he was part of the Al Gebra network, and that he had weapons of math instruction!09:52
cox377lol09:53
Jreinaldocrimsun: Let me explore a little more your knolodge. I have a network card ENCORE ENL832-TX-ICNT. Ever new version of linux I use I have to recomplie the driver. Do you know if there is somewere withe de finel module of this card?09:53
cox377has anyone managed to run something like the XPDE them on kubuntu?09:53
Frederickhow do I discover wich JVMs I have in klubuntu/09:53
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LjLrubso: basically, you have the main "dapper" repository, with the main distribution. then you have the "dapper-updates" one, which gives you bugfixes. "dapper-security" gives you security patches. "dapper-backports" gets you packages from the next version. ------ each of these is divided into "main", "restricted", "universe" and "multiverse" components09:54
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rubsoLjL: i know09:55
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LjLFrederick:  sudo update-alternatives --list java09:55
rubsoLjL: did you check it out ?09:55
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LjLrubso: check out *what*? you didn't give me anything to check out. perhaps you could give me your sources.list09:56
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rubsoLjL: do you want me to "DCC send" you my sources.list?09:56
Frederickwhy is eclipse SO slow in kubuntu?09:56
LjLsoon: see the above, i actually intended to adress it to you09:56
LjLrubso: no, use the pastebin instead, it's handier09:57
LjL!pastebin09:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:57
zorglu1Frederick: which java do you use ?09:57
soonthanks again09:57
Frederick1.5.009:57
Frederickused to be cool in gentoo09:57
JohnFluxFrederick: possibly because it has to load all of gtk09:57
zorglu1Frederick: i had issue with the gnu java stuff09:57
JohnFluxFrederick: if it's the only gtk widget version you have09:57
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JohnFluxFrederick: uh gtk program09:57
soonthat was exactly the penny that dropped for me :-)09:57
zorglu1Frederick: oh i use sun stuff without issue. on fedora tho09:58
zorglu1JohnFlux: there is a kde version for eclipse ?09:58
JohnFluxzorglu1: no :( :(09:58
FrederickJohnFlux, how do I fix it?09:58
JohnFluxzorglu1: because of stupid ibm and license problems09:59
JohnFluxzorglu1: can you believe it's actually been written09:59
JohnFluxzorglu1: but trolltech and ibm can't agree on a license09:59
JohnFluxzorglu1: so frustrating09:59
rubsoLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1647609:59
zorglu1JohnFlux: so like eclipse is not really usable on kubuntu ?09:59
JohnFluxFrederick: I don't know sorry09:59
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zorglu1JohnFlux: this is a big trouble for me :) i use eclipse all day09:59
JohnFluxzorglu1: no idea - just saying it will use the gtk widget set09:59
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LjLrubso: multiverse is not enabled10:00
JohnFluxzorglu1: it's should work10:00
JohnFluxzorglu1: if it's not working for Frederick, that's a bug10:00
skip_jemand deutsches hier der mit mit java und adept helfen kann!?10:00
zorglu1JohnFlux: well he is saying it is very slow10:00
JohnFluxzorglu1: I'm talking about that eclipse can't use the qt widgets - only gtk ones10:00
JohnFluxzorglu1: that's a bug10:00
JohnFluxzorglu1: dunno about it ;)10:00
crimsunJreinaldo: which driver does it use?10:00
zorglu1JohnFlux: i plan to pass my 2 box under kubuntu and i dev on eclipse :)10:01
zorglu1JohnFlux: ok will do some experiments then :)10:01
Jreinaldocrimsun: Sundance.10:01
skip_who can help me with adept?10:01
rubsoLjL : how to enable it?10:01
JohnFluxzorglu1: *nod*  test it first10:01
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JohnFluxFrederick: maybe try using a different java10:01
JohnFluxskip_: noone10:01
JohnFluxskip_: because you didn't ask a question about it10:01
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JohnFluxskip_: in english10:02
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crimsunJreinaldo: why don't the original versions included in the various distros work?10:02
chillfaktorbazzi?10:02
gnomefreakcrimsun: are there plans for kdocker to make it in edgy?10:03
Bazziwhat?10:03
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Jreinaldocrimsun: Good question! I really don't know.10:03
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skip_my problem is with installing java. You have to push a "ok" button in a dialog, but i cant push it10:03
crimsungnomefreak: sorry, I'm not current with KDE plans; should address kubuntu-devel10:03
LjLrubso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16477 <- look at the bottom lines10:03
gnomefreakok ty im not up to date on them either lol10:03
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cox377http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06253&f=snapshot2.png10:04
LjLrubso: when you've changed it, run sudo apt-get update10:04
cox377if you look @ that screen shot it shows all the computer statistics etc etc, does anyuone know what they are called?10:04
chillfaktori've tried to install vm server ... passed houres of googling and the final action was to format ... perhaps u got some minutes for a few questions in the next hour to help me install it correctly?10:04
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BazziI've been using ubuntu as a guest OS only, vmware wise10:05
rubsoLjL: i enabled the deb-src multiverse too and i'm updating now >.<10:05
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP10:05
chillfaktorhm10:05
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rubsoLjL: didn't find anything no msttcorefonts10:06
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crimsunJreinaldo: the 686 kernel at least includes the sundance driver, but since I lack [your]  hardware, I can't verify it works for you10:06
rubsoand that's getting me nervous10:06
chillfaktorok just one question anyway, ... why installing vm server? and not just the player?10:06
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DRY|KISSeither the chocolate in my pocket has melted, or this is something altogether more sinister10:07
chillfaktori've read some times that its enough to install the player10:07
Bazziif you have readied vmwares that is10:07
DRY|KISSnope it's chocolate10:07
Bazziusually you want to create them yourself though10:07
DRY|KISSphew10:07
LjLrubso: the deb-src? you mean you did *not* add the "deb" without "src"?10:07
chillfaktor*sniff*10:08
LjLrubso: or, put that another way, did you add all of the last 5 lines of that text?10:08
chillfaktorhm10:08
rubsoLjL: its working now >.< sorry for bothering and thank your for your help10:09
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Bazzichillfaktor: you just need a change of attitude thats all10:10
chillfaktorattitude ... attitude ... just a moment i'll catch the dictionary :D10:11
LjLbazzi, chillfaktor: it's easy enough to create virtual machines for vmplayer to use10:11
Jreinaldocrimsun: no problem! I absorved the problem! So I know that I, probablly, will need to compile the driver. You gave me good information. Only one more: what is the exact version of the kernel used in the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 version?10:11
chillfaktorif u say so10:11
Bazzichillfaktor: so for your vmware server thing, I'll guide you through it10:11
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rubsojrreinaldo: uname -r10:12
chillfaktorthe last thing i remember was, that i tried to re-compile my kernel ... ... then formating the system :D10:12
LjLchillfaktor: http://www.easyvmx.com/ , amount a thousand other options ;)10:12
pmoi dont remember my bios passworg10:12
pmopassword10:12
rubsoJreinaldo: uname -r10:12
pmo:(10:12
BazziLjL: let him learn a bit instead10:12
Bazzichillfaktor: so you have a clean system now?10:12
chillfaktorBazzi: thx10:12
chillfaktorhm yeah10:12
Bazzido you know which ubuntu packages are required to install vmware?10:13
LjLBazzi: installing proprietary stuff from non-deb packages that can require a kernel recompile (and in his case, apparently resulted in a broken system) is not the idea i have of making people learn10:13
Jreinaldorubso: I don have the kubuntu installed yet. I'm preparing myself to install10:13
BazziLjL: well, usually vmware does just require some modules to be built10:13
rubsook, let me check10:13
chillfaktordoesnt matter if the system crashes, i just have a formated one :D10:13
rubsoJreinaldo: 2.6.15-25-38610:14
chillfaktorand bazzi, no i don't sryy ... tell me, what version exactly did you mean the last time we chatted?10:14
LjLchillfaktor: anyway, really, if you don't *need* vmware server or workstation for a particular reason, just install the player from multiverse (one command) and you'll be fine10:14
Jreinaldorubso: Ok. Thank you.10:14
chillfaktorserver? esx server? or gsx server?10:14
Bazziand one *can* actually learn from mistakes, one just may not do the same mistake twice :)10:14
rubso:) you're welcome.10:14
chillfaktorTHATS right!10:14
h3sp4wnThat reason could be creating a virtual machine10:14
LjLh3sp4wn: as i said, www.easyvmx.com10:14
Bazzichillfaktor: VMware-server-1.0.0-24927.tar.gz10:15
LjLh3sp4wn: or another dozen programs/sites that let you do the same thing10:15
chillfaktori don't really need it, but i WANT to run windows in a window under linux ... thats just fantastic :D10:15
chillfaktorkk baz, ill dl ...10:15
LjLchillfaktor: right. vmplayer will do that quite well10:15
h3sp4wnI know you can do it with just qemu10:16
h3sp4wn(create the vmx)10:16
Bazzichillfaktor: you need the following packages, (1) build-essential (2) linux-source-<yourkernelversion> (3) linux-headers-<yourkernelversion>10:16
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chillfaktorbut if my "guru" (bazzi) sais, use server, i'll use server, thx anyway :D10:16
LjLh3sp4wn: i think you can only create the disk image with qemu. you'd still have to write the actual .vmx configuration file manually10:16
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zorglu1chillfaktor: have you tried ? and get it working ?10:16
Riddell/b/yuuuic10:16
crimsunJreinaldo: 2.6.15-23-38610:16
LjLh3sp4wn: (of course, it's "just" a configuration file... but you do have to know the syntax!)10:16
chillfaktornope sys crashed, k i'll back in 3 mins10:16
LjLdoes vmware server support sound?10:17
Bazziyes it does10:17
Bazzijust not over remote connections10:17
Bazzionly localhost10:17
h3sp4wnLjL: I would use qemu with the kqemu kernel module its almost as fast - or pay for workstation if I needed any of its features10:17
zorglu1i even saw a web page about installing window from linux10:17
LjLh3sp4wn: right, but you'll have to admit installing vmplayer is kind of easy than installing kqemu10:18
LjLeasier10:18
zorglu1i need to port a soft under window and intend to use window like that :)10:18
JreinaldoThank you for all of you that helped-me,.10:18
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LjL!qemu10:18
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ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo10:18
Bazziproblem with vmware player is that it doesnt contain the vmware tools afaik10:18
chillfaktorVMware-server-1.0.0-27828.i386.rpm <<< thats the one which i'm able to dl from the vm site O.o ... i'll search google for the one u told ...10:18
zorglu1LjL: and this works ?10:18
LjLzorglu1: i don't know, i haven't tried it.10:19
zorglu1LjL: i mean this is usable10:19
Bazzichillfaktor: you have several options on the VMware site below eachother10:19
zorglu1LjL: ok10:19
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h3sp4wnTo get it working properly you need qemu 0.81 or later (just take the source from sid)10:19
LjLzorglu1: windows under qemu is usable for sure, though not incredibly fast at least without kqemu10:19
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chillfaktorok ... kk ... mom ...10:19
zorglu1LjL: ok i intend to do some 'console' developement on it, like no gui stuff just porting a deamon10:20
zorglu1im so afraid of this :) i postpone the work for month now :)10:20
LjLzorglu1: both vmplayer and qemu should be good enough for that10:20
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zorglu1LjL: ok thanks for the info10:21
h3sp4wnqemu -cdrom is a very useful way for testing iso's10:21
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chillfaktorbut, sry 4 the quest. ... but ... why using an older v.? ...10:21
Bazzicome again?10:21
chillfaktorVMware-server-1.0.0-27828.tar.gz ...10:22
chillfaktori catched the rpm file the last time10:22
chillfaktoraaaaand10:22
chillfaktorused alien to convert du deb ...10:23
BazziI wouldn't do that.10:23
Bazzialien tends to break systems10:23
LjLme neither10:23
chillfaktori'm using debian, thought i have 210:23
LjL!alien10:23
uboturpm is the RedHat package management system. Not nearly as good as apt/dpkg. Avoid using .rpm packages on Ubuntu and if you really need them, use alien.10:23
LjLthough this factoid needs to be changed asap10:23
h3sp4wnThe really need them means not available as a tar.gz to me10:24
rubsolol Fedora Core, its a waste of time and megabytes :))10:24
lowtechwhy not nearly as good as apt/dpkg?10:24
Bazzichillfaktor: you need the following packages, (1) build-essential (2) linux-source-<yourkernelversion> (3) linux-headers-<yourkernelversion> <-- you should get those packages now10:24
Tommy2k4how can i get amarok or xmms to play wma files? amarok did until i upgraded to 1.4 and xmms never did :910:24
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chillfaktormom10:24
JohnFlux!wma10:24
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:24
Bazzilowtech: I have had my fair sets of problems with suse, as opposed to debian/ubuntu10:24
JohnFluxTommy2k4: ^^10:24
Tommy2k4but i had wma working fine until i upgraded amarok so i must have all the needed stuff10:25
lowtechok, so no real basis other debian preference10:25
JohnFluxTommy2k4: maybe it switched the default engine10:25
Tommy2k4still xine10:25
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LjLlowtech: because of no reason. because someone put that into the factoid because they thought that in their opinion. anyway...10:25
LjL!rpm10:25
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).10:25
Tommy2k4the problem is that amarok closes as soon as i play a wma file10:25
JohnFluxTommy2k4: #amarok then :)10:26
chillfaktorbuild-ess. ... done ...10:26
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lowtechLjL: thanks, thatswhat i thought10:26
chillfaktormy kernel v. iiisss .... iiiiiiiissssssss .... hmmm ... 3.4.4 i think ...10:27
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zorglu1that a weird kernel version :)10:27
chillfaktoror 2.4.4 O.o :D10:27
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chillfaktorjust a mom ^^10:27
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KuLoverDoes anyone else ever crash but still have the ability to move their mouse?10:27
zorglu1chillfaktor: this one is possible but unlikely :) uname -r will tell you10:28
zorglu1KuLover: what do you mean by 'crash'10:28
omeowBy default, I have this little menu with Home, and some other places on my kicker. How can I change that menu to just have the home location? (adding a custom button that launches konqueror /home/omeow will do the trick but it's much slower than the one from that menu. (takes 2 extra seconds)10:28
Bazzichillfaktor: use uname -r10:29
chillfaktorooooouuukkkkaaaayyyy .... 2.6.12-10-686 ... installing the packages ...10:29
KuLoverzorglu1: Well, its more of a freeze. It seems like the DUI freezes, but The mouse will still move.10:29
KuLoverzorglu1: GUI*10:29
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Bazzichillfaktor: wait. 2.6.12?10:29
Bazziare you not on dapper yet?10:29
LjLthat's breezy10:29
chillfaktoron dapper?10:29
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LjL!dapper10:29
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"10:29
chillfaktor*installing > 16%)10:29
zorglu1KuLover: hmmm not that i have the solution , but next time it happen try to press 'ctrl-alt-backspace' all at the same time10:29
chillfaktorhm don't know10:30
Bazzioi oi oi dont tell me you lived in a cave recently10:30
chillfaktorits ... hm10:30
slow-motionre10:30
KuLoverzorglu1: What does that key combo do? Just wondering?10:30
chillfaktorkubuntu breezy :)10:30
chillfaktorprob?10:30
Bazziyou should consider upgrading to dapper10:30
JohnFluxHAHA10:30
LjLchillfaktor: not necessarily a problem, as long as it works well10:30
JohnFluxmauser just trying ctrl-alt-backspace   i think10:30
chillfaktorO.o now in english pls :D10:30
chillfaktorhm10:30
zorglu1KuLover: it will 'relaunch' X aka all the GUI part and put you again on the 'login splash10:30
chillfaktorlets try with this one10:30
JohnFlux*tried10:31
zorglu1KuLover: it should unblock your situation10:31
chillfaktoror do you mean it's nessesary in youre opinion?10:31
chillfaktor*guru* :)10:31
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Bazziwell, for means of training you can setup vmware now and then again in dapper10:31
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KuLoverzorglu1: UIt does seem as though it only happens while I'm using X applications.. Last time it happened was while opeing FristWore.10:31
chillfaktorhm ... what i got to do?10:32
KuLoverFrostWire*10:32
Bazzichillfaktor, did you get those 3 packages now?10:32
JohnFluxonce upon a time, /join and /part where having a race.  /join sinks.  Who won the race?10:32
chillfaktordownloading anyway, can't abort10:32
chillfaktorin adept ...10:32
chillfaktor91%10:32
crazy_penguinnight everyone. sleep well10:32
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LjLJohnFlux: /part...10:32
zorglu1KuLover: yep this is only a workaround, it doesnt fix the bug. and to diagnoze such a bug is hard :)10:32
chillfaktorthe last one is running10:32
JohnFluxcrazy_penguin: night10:32
chillfaktorin 2min10:32
chillfaktorbig packages10:32
JohnFluxLjL: get a cookie10:32
chillfaktorat least one ...10:33
eXCeSSanyone know if socket am2 is any good10:33
KuLoverzorglu1: Is this a a knows bug?10:33
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Bazziyep one is 44MB10:33
KuLoverzorglu1: Is this a known bug**10:33
zorglu1KuLover: not that i know of, but it may be well known without me knowing :)10:33
KuLoverzorglu1: Haha.10:33
LjLKuLover: dapper'd X11 freezing randomly? i'd hope not :)10:33
chillfaktorheaders ... -smp or not -smp?10:33
LjLdapper's10:34
KuLoverLjL, Yeah It is, but wile its happening, I am still able to move the mouse.10:34
LjLchillfaktor: not -smp i'd say, if your "name -r" doesn't tell you you have smp10:34
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h3sp4wnKuLover: Are you using an ati card with dri and the opensource drivers ?10:34
zorglu1KuLover: moving the mouse may be handle directly by your graphic card, so it doesnt mean much10:35
chillfaktorall 3 pack3es installed ... go on instructing pls :)10:35
KuLoverh3sp4wn Yes, ATI with the Glfrx10:35
h3sp4wnfglrx ?10:35
KuLoverh3sp4wn Yeah That one ><10:36
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h3sp4wnAti cards are junk (I know I have one)10:36
chillfaktor(i see, the dictionary will be my best friend for the naxt hour :D)10:36
chillfaktor-a+e10:36
chillfaktorBazzi: how i sayd, all 3 p. installed ... now what vm version do we use now, yours or mine?10:37
Bazzichillfaktor: unzip the vmware archive10:37
KuLoverh3sp4wn Why are they Junk?10:37
Bazzimine!10:37
chillfaktorll10:37
chillfaktorkk10:37
chillfaktor*search*10:37
h3sp4wnKuLover: The closed source drivers are unreliable and not very well maintained10:37
KuLoverh3sp4wn I wish OmegaDrivers made a Linux compatible version of their drivers.10:38
DRY|KISSThere were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?10:38
zorglu1/quite10:39
zorglu1/quit10:39
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zorglu1the typo make my 'great irc knowledge' less impressive :(10:39
DRY|KISS:p10:39
KuLoverh3sp4wn Will you be switching to Nvidia then?10:39
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chillfaktorBazzi: lol, search google for "VMware server 1.0.0-24927" you'll get 3 links :D ... this will take some minutes, i'll quote you when i got the file ...10:39
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DRY|KISSgot to find a channel where tey'll fall for it10:40
h3sp4wnKuLover: I expect reasonably soon10:40
Bazzichillfaktor: *sigh*10:40
chillfaktor^^10:40
h3sp4wnKuLover: Depends on what fixes have been made on the opensource r300 driver10:40
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KuLoverh3sp4wn I mainly freeze wile running X programs such as while opening FrostWire.. What dirvers are you using by the way.10:42
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DRY|KISS There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?10:42
DRY|KISSalmost...10:42
h3sp4wnKuLover: That is a known bug10:42
DRY|KISSoh oh10:43
h3sp4wnKuLover: I am using fglrx but I can get 3d acceleration with the cvs mesa and the r300 driver (just not for very long at all)10:43
DRY|KISSwas that one?10:43
KuLoverh3sp4wn Would you say fglrx is the way to go then? I wasnt able to boot even with the ATI drivers on an X850 XT10:44
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chillfaktorBazzi: first option: i'm a fool , second option: the file doesn't exist all over the world -.-' (sry 4 my incapacity)10:44
Bazzifirst option10:44
h3sp4wnKuLover: You are at the mercy of ati when they fix that problem10:44
chillfaktor-.-'10:44
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chillfaktor*still searching*10:49
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Bazziits on the vmware download page10:49
Bazziright below the rpm10:49
Bazzi(or above)10:49
chillfaktorthats a newer version!10:49
chillfaktorclick to dl, you'll see10:50
chillfaktorbut i'll get youre v., just some minutes10:50
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Bazziwell get the newer version then10:50
Bazziit doesn't really matter what build it is10:51
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chillfaktorthats a word ... k then, hope it will work with the newer one ... *dl'ing*10:51
om_hello.. im trying to install Flash for firefox but i keep getting " /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"10:51
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om_and it won't install.. (i was using sudo apt-get10:52
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chillfaktor100mb / 240kb/sec ... 7mins left ...10:53
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om_how do i unlock config.dat?10:53
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gatekeeperom_ you haven't got adept or synaptic running as well have you?10:53
Tommy2k4kubuntu crashed again10:53
chillfaktori'll turn a cigarett in this time ...10:53
Tommy2k4i think its a problem with X10:53
om_Tommy- i didn't have a window up, but i "killall Adept" and now it worked!! =) thanks!!10:54
chillfaktor(to myselfe) turn ... thats the correct word? ... doesn't matter ...10:54
chillfaktor5mins 2 go10:54
Tommy2k4lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then monitor said "attention - 31K / 0Hz - frequency out of range"10:54
Tommy2k4what could the problem be10:54
Tommy2k4its happened like 5 times so far, twice today10:54
DRY|KISSi had the great idea of doing it in the #xchat channel10:55
DRY|KISSdumb me10:55
DRY|KISSThere were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?10:55
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chillfaktorBazzi: during dl'ing ... btw ... where do ya come from? GB or america?10:56
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chillfaktor(3mins)10:56
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Bazzigermany10:56
HowitzerWhat is the name of the Kubuntu window style?10:56
chillfaktorO.o10:56
chillfaktorund warum labern wa dann kein deutsch?10:56
DRY|KISShuman?10:56
Howitzeri've been looking KDE-Look all over for it but haven't found it10:56
Bazzichillfaktor #kubuntu-de :P10:57
chillfaktorouuh :D10:57
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Tommy2k4w00t austin powers c4 now for uk ppl10:58
clintcDRY|KISS: '/quit' of course, why do you ask?10:58
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Bazzigotta go, thunderstorms all over the place!10:59
chillfaktorpity, my english isn't the best ...10:59
DRY|KISSclintc: at the beginning of a line without two slashes and no space in front10:59
chillfaktordamn ... kk10:59
DRY|KISSand no /say in front10:59
chillfaktori'll wait here10:59
chillfaktorhm10:59
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP10:59
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HowitzerWhat is the name of the Kubuntu window style?10:59
_joelHello everyone10:59
jeff_hello11:00
_joelWhats a good Screencasting tool for ubuntu/kubuntu?11:00
jeff_can someonr tell me how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP11:00
jmichaelxdeutsch ist in diesem raum TOTAL verboten....11:00
sander___joel: kremotdesktop sharing11:00
bam_anyone know the feed for kde 3.5 offhand?11:00
Tommy2k4why does kubuntu crash, lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then monitor said "attention - 31K / 0Hz - frequency out of range"11:00
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_joelsander__: I mean like something that recoreds the desktop to a avi file11:01
_joellike a desktop video recorder11:01
sander__Ah I would say vnc2swf11:01
chillfaktorhm someone knows how to left a msg for someone who is off, that he gets when he gets on again?11:02
_joelcool11:02
chillfaktorgets = goes (i think ^^)11:02
_joelthanks sander__11:02
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP11:02
chillfaktoror 'comes ... again' O.o11:02
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sander__good luck, I've never used it, but I've seen its results.11:02
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DRY|KISSsorry11:03
DRY|KISSping time-out11:03
DRY|KISS:p11:03
DRY|KISSwell actually:11:03
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DRY|KISSextracting-ethernet-cable-to-escape-nasty-surprise11:03
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP11:04
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clintcDRY|KISS: that's what firewalls are for11:04
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP11:05
DRY|KISSone time's plenty11:05
DRY|KISSlook on kde-look.org11:05
bam_how do I enable dragging windows from desktop-to-desktop(in the pager)11:05
imachineis there a good console cd player ?11:05
imachinefor kubuntu ?11:06
imachineanyone can recomme?11:06
DRY|KISSdragging: don't know11:06
DRY|KISSbut you can right click on the button on your taskbalk11:06
DRY|KISSwhile you are on a desktop11:06
DRY|KISSand choose "to current desktop11:06
DRY|KISS"11:07
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DRY|KISSor something like that11:07
DRY|KISSi have a dutch version11:07
DRY|KISSimachine: sec11:07
_joelhello everyone11:07
imachineDRY|KISS, afkorz11:07
rubsoguys, Adept won't work11:08
imachineworks here11:08
imachine;] 11:08
rubsoi don't know, after i updated  the sources.list it won't work !11:08
imachinehah11:08
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imachinewhat did you update IT to11:08
imachineUPDATE11:08
imachinewtfd11:08
DRY|KISSimachine: i found cdtool11:08
imachineupdate = 0,5 -> 0,611:08
imachineDRY|KISS, aha11:08
imachinefuck piss.11:09
imachinesorry for teh obscenitiez11:09
imachinebah11:09
DRY|KISSbut that the only one i found (rapidly)11:09
imachineajsi that theereiz something elz11:09
imachinehowever11:09
HowitzerWhat is the name of the Kubuntu window style?11:09
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jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP11:09
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DRY|KISSHowitzer: CRYSTAL FOR GODS SAKE11:10
DRY|KISSsorry for caps11:10
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rubsojeff_: system settings11:10
Howitzerit ain't?11:10
jeff_i must have a problem then changed those settings and still have default11:11
Howitzerhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/13969-1.jpg11:11
Howitzerdoesn't look a lot like it :/11:11
DRY|KISSit has multiple looks11:11
Howitzeroh crap11:11
Howitzerhm11:11
Howitzerignore all my requests >_>11:11
DRY|KISS:p11:11
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Howitzertoo bad i'm on Fedora though11:12
jeff_???11:12
Howitzercan't believe how illogical Fedora is11:12
DRY|KISSsimple: use kubuntu :p11:12
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jmichaelxHowitzer: how is fedora so illogical?11:13
jeff_simple nd works use pclinuxos11:13
Howitzeri had to hack 8 config files just to use the native RPM installer to install packages that come with the DVD11:13
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jmichaelxHowitzer: hmmm, i have a machine that i was thinking about putting fedora on when core 6 comes out11:14
Howitzerdoes it have internet access?11:14
jmichaelxHowitzer: yeah11:14
DRY|KISSon my pc i have kubuntu11:14
Howitzerthen you won't have the YUM problem i had11:14
BluesKaj /msg NickServ IDENTIFY BluesKaj11:14
DRY|KISSon my laptop i have slackware to make me look geeky11:14
om_is amaroK pretty much the best audio player available for kde?11:15
Howitzerbut seriously, i'm missing dpkg and apt-get SO hard :(11:15
Howitzerom_:  kind of11:15
jmichaelxDRY|KISS: i tried slackware, but i could not get it to recognize my MIC, and it did something weird to my MBR11:15
DRY|KISSBluesKaj i would change my password if i were you11:15
jmichaelxNIC*11:16
DRY|KISSowned :p11:16
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP11:16
Howitzerhe did that on purpose so we would log into his name and he can ghostkill our ass11:16
Howitzeraaargh11:16
DRY|KISSjeff_ Look on kde-look or GTFO!!!11:16
Howitzeri wish my Kubuntu CD's arrived already :(11:16
Howitzeranyway11:17
jmichaelxHowitzer: can you not download?11:17
jeff_i did nothing there, i just need help11:17
Howitzergoing to install the crystal window deco, thanks DRY|KISS11:17
om_i have this weird problem where if i already have firefox open and then i click on a link within another program that is supposed to launch my browser, it doesn't open11:17
DRY|KISSok11:17
om_it just loads and loads and then gives up11:17
Howitzerjmichaelx: my internet connection on my other box is down atm11:17
jeff_linux users are suposed to helpful11:17
jmichaelxahh11:17
DRY|KISSyes11:17
Howitzerjeff_: not to idiots11:17
DRY|KISSif you ask a question ONCE11:17
jmichaelxgood grief....11:17
DRY|KISSnot 50+ times11:18
Howitzerno but serious for a moment11:18
jmichaelxi have reposted questions in this room before... i must be an idiot, too11:18
jeff_not an idiot just not a grerasy haired geek11:18
DRY|KISSsigh...11:18
Howitzerfor KDE themes, look on www.kde-look.org , for KDE apps, look on www.kde-apps.org11:18
DRY|KISSgrerasy? is that a new french dish?11:18
h3sp4wnPeople are more likely to respond if you actually post what attempts you have made yourself to solve the problem11:18
Howitzerlook11:18
jeff_i sure it is11:19
Howitzeri may have greasy hair atm, but that's because i'm home for 2 days because i'm sick11:19
jeff_??11:19
DRY|KISSand geeks aren't greasy haired, they have no hair, less washing to bother them!11:19
Howitzerheh11:20
DRY|KISS:p11:20
Howitzerare you talking facial only? >_>11:20
jeff_kubuntu is buggy, have u tried PClinuxOS11:20
DRY|KISSlet's not go there11:20
Howitzerwhy not11:20
jmichaelxi don't think that kubuntu is very buggy11:20
DRY|KISS:p11:21
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Howitzerit's a hot subject if i pretend i'm a girl11:21
DRY|KISSare you?11:21
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Howitzerjeff_: you're just flaming now.11:21
Howitzerno, but let's not think about that now11:21
jeff_sorry11:21
Howitzerthink of me as a nice cute girl11:21
Howitzer*a nice cute willing girl :x11:21
DRY|KISSBUKKAKKE!!!11:21
KuLoverAnyone here use Skype?11:22
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Howitzerew11:22
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DRY|KISSnot me11:22
HowitzerDRY|KISS: that's a bridge too far11:22
Howitzerc'mon man11:22
Howitzerthat's sad11:22
jmichaelxthis room just officially reached a low it had never before seen11:22
eroeurbanohi everybody11:22
DRY|KISSnow that's fit for bash ^^11:22
Howitzergirl would have seen enough calcium for her whole life11:22
DRY|KISSLOL11:22
Howitzeroh god11:23
Howitzerno11:23
Howitzernot bash -_-11:23
DRY|KISSyes11:23
Howitzeri read it everyday and i always think, god fcking damnit, are people really such morons/fakers?11:23
h3sp4wnPEBCAK (most of the time) - kubuntu has bugs but not compared to people who just don't read documentation11:23
KinGetanaexcuse me gentlemen, i? new with linux, and i was wondering how do i get this dapper of mine to support extracting of zip-files? sorry for being so in-your-face, but i'd appreciate a hint :)11:23
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h3sp4wnunzip nameofzip.zip11:24
HowitzerKinGetana: use the unzip command11:24
jeff_you to ask 10 times11:24
gnomefreakKinGetana: it does by default11:24
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Howitzeranyway11:24
jeff_then DRYKiss will yell at you11:24
Howitzeri'm off11:24
KinGetanathank you :)11:24
Howitzersee you guys11:24
jmichaelxand call you an idiot11:24
jeff_right11:24
jeff_an f'n idiot11:25
jmichaelxyes11:25
h3sp4wnKinGetana: Just open a terminal - the file will be in either Desktop or the directory you start in11:25
cox377since making the transfer to kubuntu from windows one thing i've noticed is that when browsing using firefox the text isnt so clear and defined.. could this be a general driver issue or???11:25
KinGetanaokay, i'll have a go with this, thanks for the tips11:26
DRY|KISSthis is what i made of it:11:26
DRY|KISS<jeff_> linux users are suposed to helpful11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> jeff_: not to idiots11:26
DRY|KISS<jeff_> not an idiot just not a grerasy haired geek11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> look11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> i may have greasy hair atm, but that's because i'm home for 2 days because i'm sick11:26
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> and geeks aren't greasy haired, they have no hair, less washing to bother them!11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> heh11:26
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> :p11:26
h3sp4wnKinGetana: Or you can just use ark (k menu run ark) its a graphical utility which can extract zips11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> are you talking facial only? >_>11:26
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> let's not go there11:26
jmichaelxcox377: it could be the font?11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> why not11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> it's a hot subject if i pretend i'm a girl11:26
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> are you?11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> jeff_: you're just flaming now.11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> no, but let's not think about that now11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> think of me as a nice cute girl11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> *a nice cute willing girl :x11:26
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> BUKKAKKE!!!11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> ew11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> DRY|KISS: that's a bridge too far11:26
ArmedGeekwtf ?11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> c'mon man11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> that's sad11:26
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> now that's fit for bash ^^11:26
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> girl would have seen enough calcium for her whole life11:27
DRY|KISS<DRY|KISS> LOL11:27
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> oh god11:27
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> no11:27
DRY|KISS<Howitzer> not bash -_-11:27
ArmedGeekARE THERE NO OPS IN HERE ?11:27
jmichaelxok someone needs to ban DRY|KISS11:27
jeff_and im the idiot11:27
gnomefreak!ops11:27
ubotuHelp! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek11:27
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cox377jmichaelx: good thinking brains ;)11:28
clintcwe appear to be opless11:28
jeff_im going to ask again in case someone new is on that will answer, ok?11:28
jaroAnybody in here with an Acer Notebook ??11:29
jmichaelxjeff_: do it11:29
Raven301I have a dell11:29
gnomefreakSeveas: ping?11:29
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SkrotFFSjaro: I've got one. Acer Travelmate 3004TWMi11:29
jeff_how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP. I have gone into system settings and changed the settings that I see, and read about in the fourms.11:29
jaroSkrotFFS: I need to know what monitor I have11:30
jeff_still no deal11:30
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SkrotFFSjaro: Uhm, no idea. Why do you need to know?11:30
jaroSkrotFFS:  i have problems with the screen...11:30
SkrotFFSI see. What sort of problem?11:30
jaroSkrotFFS:  for example when I log off, then the screen goes off.. turns black.. and wont come back anymore until restart11:30
SkrotFFSoh. Dunno about that11:30
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SkrotFFSThere might be some webpages about linux on you laptop if you google it though11:31
jaroit must have to do with the monitor, because a standard monitor plugged in is doing fine11:31
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jaroSkrotFFS: i had no luck with google yet...11:31
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jaroSkrotFFS:  the Monitor is configured as plugin-standard... that might not be right11:31
jaroSkrotFFS:  but I dont know where to find the information about the monitor11:32
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jeff_thanks:--jmichael i'll try some other time11:32
jmichaelxjeff_: sometimes it pays to just come in at a diiferent time, and in the mean time, keep combing through the forums and docs11:32
jeff_jmichael yep that is what i will do11:33
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nicosaanAnyone mind digging http://digg.com/programming/Code_Bash for me?11:36
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RaitoFor some reason I can't see anything in azureus, I can open a torrent, and I know it is downloading because my network box shows it, but the entire box is grey and I see nothing. Using Kubuntu 6.0611:51
RaitoOh, and I have to open it twice to show it. The first time the frog pops up and it says all the loading thing, and the second time the windows pops up11:52
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om_my kubuntu won't play .mp3s =`(12:03
crimsunusing amarok?12:03
om_amaroK just says "playing" for 1 sec and then i get "playlist finished"12:03
om_yeah also kafeine12:04
crimsundo you have libxine-extracodecs installed?12:04
clintcom_: default install?12:04
om_yeah default12:04
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om_i can play system sounds w/o a problem (like when i log on sound)12:04
clintcyou have to get the extra codecs12:04
om_oh12:04
om_how?12:04
flo!resticted formats12:05
ubotuI know nothing about resticted formats12:05
clintcdo you know how to add respositores?12:05
om_yeah12:05
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om_using Adept12:05
antinobody!RestrictedFormats12:05
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:05
antinobodymuch better12:06
om_thanks!12:06
clintcadd universe and multiverse, then update, and then search for extra codecs12:06

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