[12:02] <soulrider> ohh
[12:02] <soulrider> see, it didnt make any sense :P
[12:02] <mcrandello> "Default Applications"
[12:03] <Raito> galorin: I thought so too but someone here told me that you can >_>
[12:03] <mcrandello> again it's probably somewhere else as well
[12:03] <soulrider> it makes sense to dot hat with konq if youre talking about opening files yes
[12:04] <galorin> Raito, it can resize FAT, but I've not heard anything to the contrary.  A quick google should yield an answer to that roblem.. lemme check
[12:04] <soulrider> kk, someone post an URL plix :P
[12:04] <mcrandello> I guess the workaround from the sound server fatal error is to install alsa-oss and use the OSS soundsystem
[12:04] <kblog> how do i install gnome desktopa again, please?
[12:04] <kblog> if i do it, it will not harm kde, right?
[12:04] <mcrandello> http://oralse.cx
[12:05] <mcrandello> kblog: try sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[12:05] <soulrider> no thanks :P
[12:05] <galorin> Raito, might be able to resize from within Windows, and Suse claims to be able to do it, might be proprietary though, knowing them. ;-)
[12:05] <Raito> galorin: But thing is, the installer was able to resize NTFS, so why can't an app do it?
[12:05] <soulrider> www.google.com
[12:05] <mcrandello> no really, it's worksafe
[12:05] <soulrider> yay, works!
[12:05] <Raito> I tried from within windows and it didn't work >_<
[12:05] <juan> hi there
[12:06] <mcrandello> :)
[12:06] <soulrider> :] 
[12:06] <galorin> ah, I'm stuck then.. sorry.
[12:06] <soulrider> kk, a couple more questions
[12:06] <soulrider> where cn i see a list of allt he programs installed
[12:06] <mcrandello> kblog: and you can have both desktops on there, the settings files are all saved seperately from each other
[12:06] <soulrider> say i remove the kontact button adn i wanna run kontact but there are no shortcuts
[12:06] <RawSewage> are there any other Kubuntu experts awake
[12:06] <juan> Do you know how to compile something if there is no ./configure ? (I'm trying to compile gtk-qt from the CVS)
[12:06] <mcrandello> although some desktop shortcuts might not work in the other DE
[12:07] <kblog> thanx. i already started it :)
[12:07] <mcrandello> juan try running "automake" in the base source file directory
[12:07] <mcrandello> long shot but it might work
[12:07] <RawSewage> This FAQ doesnt work [12:07] <RawSewage> sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[12:07] <RawSewage> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[12:07] <RawSewage> Does not work
[12:08] <juan> mcrandello: It tells me "C++ source seen but `CXX' is undefined"
[12:08] <mcrandello> is there an "INSTALL" or "README" in the dir?
[12:08] <juan> there is a "configure.in", but no configure...
[12:09] <juan> Yes, there is an INSTALL. It states that it's enought with ./configure make make install
[12:09] <juan> But it's wrong :(
[12:09] <mcrandello> sounds like someone broke cvs
[12:09] <juan> maybe.. but perhaps there is another way to compile it..
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> Is autogen.sh there ?
[12:10] <juan> After all there is a configure.in (whatever this means)
[12:11] <juan> No, there isn't a .sh in the dir..
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> where you getting it from ?
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> If its from cvs there is no guarantee at any one time it will be in a working state
[12:12] <DrBair> anyone else out there using konq 3.5.3 having javascript issues?
[12:12] <juan> Here are the CVS instructions: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gtk-qt
[12:12] <soulrider> ..uhm, thats the shortcut that does hte same as ctr+aly+del in widnwos ?
[12:13] <juan> It's a small project. It takes less than 5 seconds to download.
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> So that would make gtk apps work with qt themes properly ?
[12:14] <juan> h3sp4wn: yes.
[12:14] <mcrandello> I know this one...
[12:15] <mcrandello> there's a package already built for dapper
[12:15] <juan> I reported a bug today in the morning and the maintainer just fixed it in a matter of hours.
[12:15] <mcrandello> ah
[12:15] <juan> Too bad I can't compile the damn thing
[12:16] <MartinArg> it is a way to install gaim 2.0 ?
[12:16] <crimsun_> juan: what's the issue?
[12:17] <juan> crimsun: there is no configure to be run...
[12:17] <crimsun_> juan: no, the bigger issue
[12:17] <juan> bigger issue ? With qt-gtk ?
[12:17] <mcrandello> this is a real long shot-
[12:17] <crimsun_> what are you trying to do?
[12:17] <crimsun_> compile gtk2-engines-gtk-qt?
[12:17] <juan> Yes
[12:17] <juan> the latest cvs version
[12:18] <mcrandello> download the current source package, then mv the cvs files overwriting the ones you unzipped
[12:18] <crimsun_> apt-get build-dep gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[12:18] <yango> hi...
[12:18] <juan> crimsun: it's buggy
[12:18] <mcrandello> assuming the latest source release has a configure script it may work
[12:18] <crimsun_> && apt-get install automake1.8 autoconf libtool
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> juan: All you need to do is cp Makefile.cvs Makefile - then run make and it will generate ./configure
[12:18] <yango> where do you configure the time as GMT or not GMT?
[12:18] <juan> crimsun: even the latest compiled version is buggy
[12:18] <crimsun_> juan: read carefully. That installs build-dependencies.
[12:19] <RawSewage> How can I restore the defaullt KDE settings to Konqueror.  I followed this FAQ, but it didnt work:  http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[12:19] <soulrider> i got a question, when you insatll something, where does it go to ?
[12:19] <soulrider> and doe xecutable files ahve an extension similar to .exe or soemthign ?
[12:19] <juan> aha
[12:19] <mcrandello> RawSewage: this will clear ALL kde settings and history: rm -rf .kde
[12:20] <mcrandello> otherwise look for a dir under .kde probably in share/apps for konqueror
[12:20] <yango> soulrider: it doesn't. executables have the x permission bit set...
[12:20] <RawSewage> mcrandello, I want to restore the KDE default functionality.  Kubuntu removes several Konqueror features to make it simpler
[12:20] <mcrandello> oh
[12:20] <yango> soulrider: if you do ls -la file and it has exes like: r-xr-x--- or something like that it is
[12:21] <soulrider> thnaks yango
[12:21] <soulrider> also, when i rn a deb package
[12:21] <soulrider> it installs a program right
[12:21] <soulrider> but where does it istall it to ?
[12:21] <juan> crimsun: done. How this is going to help me ?
[12:21] <mcrandello> if you find out let me know too, I personally like complexity :)
[12:21] <mcrandello> soulrider: kpackage will list where all the files go
[12:21] <crimsun_> juan: if you checked gtk-qt from cvs/svn, there may be a bootstrap or autogen script. Now execute it.
[12:22] <yango> soulrider: you can use dpkg -L <package-name>
[12:22] <soulrider> k, thanks
[12:22] <mcrandello> soulrider: also you can type "which command" to find out specifically where the executable went
[12:22] <mcrandello> (replace "command" with the name of the program)
[12:22] <soulrider> k, thanks a lot
[12:23] <RawSewage> mcrandello, ok
[12:23] <driz_> hello
[12:23] <yango> hey, does anyone know how to configure timezones + motherboard time?
[12:23] <juan> crimsun: there are no scripts in the dir
[12:23] <mcrandello> also "whereis" is a good CLI command
[12:23] <soulrider> thats great
[12:23] <soulrider> so lets say i installed opera
[12:23] <soulrider> an di delete the files
[12:23] <crimsun_> juan: where is gtk-qt's svn/cvs?
[12:23] <soulrider> just like that
[12:23] <mcrandello> yango: the k menu->system settings-> the bottom line "administration" and then date&time
[12:24] <soulrider> if i type opera in console, will i get an error or will ti just not work
[12:24] <soulrider> like, will my comp still think its there ?
[12:24] <mcrandello> will probably just say bash:opera:command not found
[12:24] <juan> crimsun: cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/gtk-qt login
[12:24] <juan> crimsun: download the gtk-qt-engine module
[12:24] <yango> thanks mcrandello
[12:26] <yango> where did my ntpdate configuration go? I had it running with breezy, upgraded to 6.06 LTS and now it doesn't work
[12:26] <andy_> can someone help me configure wine?
[12:26] <crimsun_> juan: aclocal && automake && autoheader && autoconf
[12:26] <crazy_penguin> good night everyone. sleep well :)
[12:26] <soulrider> bye, you too
[12:26] <Raito> How do you delete Kubuntu? I want to delete and then reinstall so that I can reset the partition tables, I can't find any other way to do it with an NTFS partition
[12:27] <rou> who can tell me the most convinient file manager for kde?
[12:27] <crimsun_> you'll automatically delete Kubuntu when you choose to use a new partitioning scheme afresh
[12:27] <RawSewage> mcrandello, I finally found the answer
[12:27] <driz_> can i get the pastebin link
[12:27] <rou> i have tried mc , but it works weird
[12:28] <driz_> ?
[12:28] <Raito> So if I pop in the Kubuntu CD and reinstall it will automatically detect another Kubuntu on the system and delete it?
[12:28] <andy_> who can help me to ussse wine to run a program?
[12:28] <mcrandello> RawSewage: do tell :)
[12:28] <juan> crimsun: configure.in:44: required file `config.h.in' not found
[12:28] <juan> crimsun: did it work in your machine ?
 is your message for me ? :)
[12:29] <RawSewage> mcrandello, the first post in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79941
[12:29] <mcrandello> rou: nope, which message?
[12:30] <crimsun_> juan: no, I don't have kdelibs/base dev packages installed.
[12:30] <rou> ]  <mcrandello> RawSewage: do tell :
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> juan: cp Makefile.cvs Makefile && make - worked for me libbonobo2-dev libbonoboui2-dev are recommended (The fixed colour highligting - for the Next colour scheme would be worth having)
[12:30] <RawSewage> rou,  , the first post in  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79941
[12:31] <mcrandello> heh
[12:31] <crimsun_> h3sp4wn: configure needs to be generated from configure.in, however, which means satisfying the autotools dependencies
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: When you run that makefile it generates configure
[12:32] <mcrandello> VMsize in the process table is how much mem something is taking up correct?
[12:32] <crimsun_> h3sp4wn: using the admin/ directory. I see.
[12:32] <crimsun_> someone send a patch upstream fixing README for the love of $deity
[12:32] <yango> is there a deb package for skype?
[12:33] <crimsun_> yango: last I checked, yes, though I have no idea how it integrates with Dapper.
[12:34] <yango> sadly it seems there's no webcam support version, and ekiga can't work with windows programs :-(
[12:34] <juan> h3sp4wn: It worked !!
[12:34] <juan> h3sp4wn, mcrandello, crimsun: a lot of thanks !
[12:34] <h3sp4wn> juan: Did it say it recommends libbonobo2-dev ?
[12:35] <mcrandello> glad it worked :) time to submit anotherbug, "README is borken"
[12:35] <juan> h3sp4wn: I didn't see it
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> juan: Probably means you have it already then
[12:36] <linuxbambi> hi, i need help. my screensaver does not start automaticley after my kubuntu freezed and i had to reboot it
[12:36] <mcrandello> artsd shouldn't be using 81 megs there should it?
[12:36] <driz_> can anyone help me install flash ?
[12:36] <juan> mcrandello: yes, you are right. I'm going to do it now, before I forget it.
[12:37] <mcrandello> :)
[12:38] <mcrandello> see if alsa likes 'threaded open sound system' any better
[12:38] <mcrandello> down to 20 megs, that's a bit better I guess
[12:39] <crimsun_> you mean "if arts likes ..." I presume.
[12:39] <mcrandello> erm yeah, arts
[12:39] <crimsun_> you really should just disable arts if you're that worried :)
[12:39] <mcrandello> well I got a fatal error this last time logging in, and that worried me :)
[12:40] <linuxbambi> somebody knows what daemon i have to have started so my screensaver can start automaticley?
[12:42] <mcrandello> linuxbambi: it's set to start automatically in the desktop properties?
[12:42] <linuxbambi> of course it is
[12:42] <linuxbambi> it worked fine, but then my os froze and i had to pull the plug
[12:42] <mcrandello> strange
[12:43] <soulrider> how do i see a list opf available commands i got for a program ?
[12:43] <pandres> Como Actualizo los paquetes en Kubuntu, Graficamente no se puede y con la consola me dice que no hay nada para actualizar
[12:43] <linuxbambi> after the reboot, it did not work any more
[12:43] <azzco> Hello
[12:44] <mcrandello> now firefox is taking up like 90 megs of memory and not delivering a window to the desktop :(
[12:44] <azzco> okay I've got a really noobish question here...how do I run a .sh file? I'm trying to install unreal tournament 2004
[12:44] <pandres> Algun Latino????
[12:44] <mcrandello> even after nuking the .mozilla dir
[12:44] <mcrandello> azzco: ./file.sh
[12:44] <azzco> didn't work mcrandello
[12:44] <RawSewage> or, right click it, and make it executable
[12:45] <soulrider> pandres:
[12:45] <soulrider> que necesitas saber?
[12:45] <mcrandello> that's in the same dir as the file of course. If it says permission denied then chmod 755 file.sh first
[12:45] <azzco> sudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied
[12:45] <azzco> oh
[12:45] <azzco> never used chmod before
[12:45] <mcrandello> 7 means anyone can read it 5 and 5 mean only you can write and execute it
[12:46] <azzco> is it possible to chmod a file on a CD?
[12:46] <mcrandello> guess not
[12:46] <RawSewage> KDE Components -  Session Manager - Start with an Empty Session FTW
[12:46] <azzco> so you recommend me to copy the file to my desktop and chmod?
[12:47] <mcrandello> that might work, hopefully you won't have to copy the whole CD over first to get it to run
[12:47] <mcrandello> maybe try "sh file.sh"
[12:47] <azzco> hmm I could do that...
[12:48] <mcrandello> looks like that might do it
[12:48] <azzco> in/out wrong (directly translated from swedish)
[12:49] <linuxbambi> is KSSL-daemon needed for screensavers to start automaticley?
[12:49] <linuxbambi> which component is needed to start screensavers automaticley?
[12:50] <miflip> salut a tous :)
[12:50] <juan> Hmm, yet another bug: the current version works great with SWT applications (eclipse, azureus, etc) but now it crashes firefox
[12:51] <miflip> (hi guyz)
[12:51] <driz_> can anyone help me install flash
[12:52] <driz_> bonjour
[12:52] <miflip> Bonjour driz_
[12:52] <azzco> driz_ what flash?
[12:52] <miflip> u mean plug in or software ?
[12:52] <driz_> macromedia
[12:52] <pandres> Algun Latino?????
[12:52] <driz_> comment ca vas?
[12:52] <azzco> to watch or create?
[12:52] <mcrandello> you want flash in webpages, no?
[12:53] <miflip> bien driz_ merci :)
[12:53] <azzco> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/installing-macromedia-flash-player.html
[12:53] <driz_> yes?
[12:53] <azzco> look at that link
[12:53] <juan> pandres: latino?
[12:53] <driz_> merci azzco
[12:53] <azzco> NP ;)
[12:53] <driz_> lol thank you
[12:54] <miflip> did you guyz got some problems with iiyama lcd under kubuntu btw ?
[12:55] <pandres> Juan, tengo problema para instalar Kubuntu
[12:55] <miflip> i miss some lines on top when im not in graphic mode
[12:55] <miflip> hi slougi
[12:55] <azzco> I still can't install unreal tournament 2004 can't drag the install.sh to desktop either...
[12:56] <azzco> is there maybe something wrong with CD?
[12:56] <miflip> u got a real UT2K4 CD ?
[12:56] <azzco> yupp
[12:56] <azzco> shouldn't I
[12:56] <miflip> yea ^
[12:56] <MartinArg> question: i'm usin wvdial for dial up connections, whats the way to disconnect from internet without press CTRL-C in the terminal?
[12:56] <miflip> :)
[12:56] <azzco> got it really cheap ;)
[12:56] <miflip> yea but it's still good ;)
[12:56] <pandres> Juan Amigo LAtino???
[12:56] <azzco> hehe I prefer UT 99
[12:57] <azzco> got that CD at a freinds house though =/
[12:57] <miflip> when u mean can't drag the install.sh ...
[12:57] <azzco> can't copy
[12:57] <miflip> u mean u can't copy it to ur desktop ?
[12:57] <azzco> it wont "read"
[12:57] <miflip> k
[12:57] <linuxbambi> hey everybody. i need help
[12:57] <miflip> u tried to copy it in terminal mode ?
[12:58] <miflip> hey linuxbambi
[12:58] <azzco> nope not yet
[12:58] <azzco> brb ;)
[12:58] <azzco> ..one sec...
[12:58] <miflip> cd /mnt/cdrom then cp install.sh etc etc
[12:58] <azzco> I don't know what commands to use lol
[12:58] <miflip> k ^^
[12:58] <miflip> open a term first
[12:58] <linuxbambi> my screensaver does not start any more automaticley after i had to reboot my os. i can test the screensaver, but it won't start automaticley
[12:58] <linuxbambi> what can i do?
[12:58] <azzco> yeah got a term open miflip
[12:59] <azzco> got it in my cd folder aswell ;)
[12:59] <miflip> k
[12:59] <miflip> run install.sh from there ?
[12:59] <miflip> type ./install.sh
[01:00] <azzco> tried...that's why it's in there ;)
[01:00] <miflip> ok loool sorry
[01:00] <azzco> "access denied"
[01:00] <miflip> and nothing hapend or ?
[01:00] <miflip> k
[01:00] <miflip> tried a sudo ?
[01:00] <azzco> yupp
[01:00] <azzco> then it says access denied in english insted of swedish;)
[01:00] <miflip> damn
[01:00] <miflip> loool
[01:00] <miflip> big deal
[01:01] <azzco> now how do I copy it?
[01:01] <pandres> Whats Roots Default Password at Kubuntu Instalation?
[01:01] <miflip> maybe if u can copy your whole CD into a rep on your HDD
[01:01] <miflip> copy command = cp
[01:02] <driz_> the same as your own password pandres
[01:02] <azzco> huh?
[01:02] <miflip> cp install.sh /home/your_user_name
[01:02] <juan> pandres: Lo eliges tu cuando lo instalas
[01:02] <azzco> ahh
[01:02] <azzco> I'll try that ;)
[01:02] <miflip> that will copy the install.sh file into your home dir
[01:02] <juan> pandres: No s si est bien visto hablar aqu en otros idiomas...
[01:02] <pandres> estoy en ubuntu-es, pero nadie responde
[01:02] <juan> Is it ok to use other languages in this channel?
[01:02] <driz_> nice i need to learn spanish
[01:02] <linuxbambi> I can't get my screensaver to start automaticley after 1 min.
[01:02] <pandres> #ubuntu-es untete juan
[01:02] <MartinArg> question: i'm usin wvdial for dial up connections, whats the way to disconnect from internet without press CTRL-C in the terminal?
[01:03] <azzco> cp: reads "linux-installer.sh": In/out-error
[01:03] <miflip> uh damn
[01:03] <miflip> mm...
[01:03] <juan> driz: come to ubuntu-es then :)
[01:03] <miflip> azzco: did u tried to install it on another comp ?
[01:04] <azzco> I could see if it can read the same file on CD 2 to see if it's something wrong on CD
[01:04] <azzco> I did install it on this with windows before
[01:04] <miflip> yea nice idea
[01:04] <azzco> I think that the linux-installer.sh file might be damaged
[01:04] <driz_> juan: lol but i wont understand anything... make sure you add the underscore to my name so i can see it
[01:04] <miflip> is there a LINUX version of UT or ...
[01:04] <miflip> i got the UT CD myself but its only for Windowz
[01:05] <azzco> well you mean UT 99?
[01:05] <miflip> UT2004
[01:05] <azzco> :O
[01:05] <juan> driz_: Ok :)
[01:05] <azzco> I'll do an ls command and copy ;)
[01:05] <miflip> k
[01:05] <azzco> Animations   ForceFeedback  linux-installer.sh  Setup.exe  Textures
[01:05] <azzco> AutoRun.inf  Help           Manual              Sounds     Web
[01:05] <azzco> Benchmark    KarmaData      Maps                System
[01:06] <miflip> buzzzz
[01:06] <miflip> wrong answer
[01:06] <miflip> this is a WIndows cd u got here
[01:06] <azzco> =/
[01:06] <miflip> (setup.exe wont run under linux huhu)
[01:06] <miflip> but...
[01:06] <azzco> first row third item ;)
[01:06] <mcrandello> well if u got wine installed ;P
[01:06] <gnomefreak> miflip: you need wine for exe files
[01:06] <driz_> juan: cool :-D
[01:06] <miflip> u can still play UT2004 under linux i thnink
[01:06] <azzco> still first row third item :P
[01:06] <azzco> "linux-installer.sh"
[01:07] <azzco> the item next to Setup.exe :P
[01:07] <miflip> oh yea sorry
[01:07] <miflip> miss that one :p
[01:07] <azzco> hehe ;) blinded by windows
[01:07] <miflip> mm
[01:07] <miflip> lol
[01:07] <azzco> I do have wine installed...but I don't trust it =/
[01:08] <miflip> u tried to do a more install.sh ?
[01:08] <miflip> to see what's inside ?
[01:08] <azzco> more install.sh?
[01:08] <yeti> hi - how can i tell kubuntu not to start gam_server? it makes everything that's got to do with file handling so damn slow it's not funny
[01:08] <ubuntu> hola a todos
[01:09] <miflip> hola
[01:09] <SmrtJustin> yeti: is it a program starting on boot?
[01:09] <ubuntu> hola
[01:09] <yeti> SmrtJustin: dunno, it's not in the runlevels
[01:09] <yeti> SmrtJustin: i guess kde/konqi starts it as a dep, but i cant prove it
[01:09] <pandres> ubuntu Latino vente pa aca#ubuntu-es
[01:10] <SmrtJustin> yeti: oh..., I was going to suggest sysv-rc-conf, but if its not starting in a runlevel thats not going to help.
[01:10] <miflip> so azzco what's inside install.sh ?
[01:10] <miflip> can u read it ?
[01:10] <yango> has anyone else a dlink usb wireless plug?
[01:10] <azzco> one sec ;)
[01:10] <miflip> k
[01:10] <azzco> ...you know what...I was able to read it before on my other cdrom drive
[01:11] <azzco> might be that...
[01:11] <yeti> SmrtJustin: mayne worth a try nevertheless - maybe i just didn't find it in the runlevels - what's that sysv-rc-conf?
[01:11] <SmrtJustin> yeti: its a program that allows you to control what starts on what runlevels
[01:11] <miflip> yea may be
[01:11] <gemidjy> is there Tango icons package for Kubuntu?
[01:12] <SmrtJustin> yeti: if it is a program starting on one of the runlevels it will show up in there, and you simply take it out of the runlevel(s) its in and it won't start anymore
[01:12] <miflip> u should try it on another linux comp if you can
[01:12] <miflip> but maybe the CD got a problem
[01:12] <SmrtJustin> yeti: that program will allow you to "uncheck" it if its starting
[01:12] <yeti> SmrtJustin: ah okay - well, it's not in there, not a runlvl problem it seems
[01:12] <azzco> or maybe the cdrom driver ;)
[01:12] <pan> ut
[01:13] <SmrtJustin> yeti: well sorry then, I'm not familiar with that program so I can't really help you, sorry.
[01:13] <kuzmaster> can somone please tell me why there isnt any sound for flash movies in firefox?
[01:13] <yeti> thanks anyways justin
[01:13] <miflip> I/O yea ur right
[01:13] <SmrtJustin> np
[01:14] <azzco> miflip: it's able to read the install.sh via gui...doesn't launch reads ;)
[01:14] <miflip> gui ?
[01:14] <azzco> yeah not terminal
[01:14] <miflip> k
[01:14] <azzco> what should I be looking for?
[01:15] <azzco> targetdir?
[01:15] <miflip> uh ...dunno
[01:15] <miflip> yea targetdir
[01:15] <azzco> ...what happens if I cope the whole thing and inserts it in terminal?
[01:16] <miflip> uhh
[01:16] <miflip> no
[01:16] <miflip> create a new file
[01:16] <miflip> and then paste the whole thing inside
[01:16] <miflip> create a new file-> vi UT_install
[01:16] <mcrandello> yeti: you might be able to install libfam0 and remove libgam0
[01:16] <miflip> then paste the text inside
[01:16] <mcrandello> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-74908.html
[01:16] <azzco> vi UT_install?
[01:16] <miflip> vi
[01:17] <miflip> the text editro
[01:17] <mcrandello> is some more info on gam_server and it's evilness
[01:17] <miflip> editor
[01:17] <miflip> or you can use any text editor
[01:17] <gemidjy> is there Tango icons package for Kubuntu?
[01:17] <azzco> kwrite
[01:17] <mcrandello> pico
[01:17] <miflip> yeah as u like
[01:17] <yeti> mcrandello: thanks, i'll definitely try that
[01:18] <miflip> i use vi because vi is on every unix like ;)
[01:18] <miflip> very usefull :)
[01:19] <mcrandello> emacs ;p
[01:19] <miflip> maybe u can try to copy the whole CD onto your hdd in a rep
[01:19] <azzco> okay miflip...I chmoded it to 755 and ran it
[01:19] <miflip> emacs is good too ^^
[01:19] <miflip> k
[01:19] <mcrandello> bah you're no vi-warrior >:(
[01:19] <azzco> got a weird answer about md5 checksum
[01:19] <kuzmaster> after running blast, how do i make everything back to normal
[01:19] <miflip> arf
[01:20] <mcrandello> heh
[01:20] <kuzmaster> without the holes in my app's
[01:20] <azzco> something to be botherd by?
[01:20] <miflip> md5 checksum is to insure the install file has not been modified
[01:20] <kuzmaster> ???????
[01:20] <azzco> ...
[01:20] <miflip> :/
[01:20] <kuzmaster> ill re-start k
[01:20] <c0lL> who develops all the audio drivers?
[01:21] <yeti> mcrandello: *sigh* installing libfam0 will delete nearly the whole system
[01:21] <mcrandello> well damn
[01:21] <yeti> mcrandello: why do they use gamin if they know it's broken? :( afaik all distros i've used so far used fam
[01:22] <miflip> well anyway it wont solve the problem as you can't copy the files :/
[01:22] <azzco> okay guys I give up for tonight =/
[01:22] <azzco> thx for the help though
[01:22] <mcrandello> yeti: no idea
[01:22] <miflip> maybe you can burn a backup of your CD
[01:22] <miflip> and use the backed up copy
[01:22] <miflip> instead of the real one
[01:22] <miflip> might solve the I/O problem
[01:23] <azzco> yeah maybe
[01:23] <yeti> mh, killing it with -SIGTERM doesn't work either, it's immediately restarted
[01:23] <miflip> (if the problem come from the CD)
[01:23] <azzco> wel I'll give it a try but I'll logoff from the IRC ;)
[01:23] <miflip> k have a good night ;)
[01:23] <azzco> good night ;)
[01:23] <miflip> bye everyone i'm off to bed too ;)
[01:23] <miflip> ++
[01:29] <kuzmaster> how do i run applactions that arnt in my kmenu, like aa3d
[01:33] <jaro> too bad, now i have keytouch installed.. and I can use the FunctionKeys to control volume.. but no other keys work yet
[01:35] <mcrandello> kuzmaster: first off "sudo apt-get kappfinder"
[01:35] <mcrandello> that will help you find non kde apps and add them to the menus
[01:36] <mcrandello> also you can right-click the Desktop and "run command" or run them from the console
[01:36] <mcrandello> (erm xterm)
[01:36] <kuzmaster> ok
[01:37] <pedro> Hi..
[01:38] <pedro> I install KDE-dektop and didn't works.
[01:38] <pedro> help -
[01:38] <jaro> too bad, now i have keytouch installed.. and I can use the FunctionKeys to control volume.. but no other keys work yet
[01:38] <pedro> jaro..
[01:38] <pedro> have you install kde-desktop?
[01:40] <jaro> sure
[01:40] <jaro> i guess so
[01:40] <jaro> hm, though i cant find any such package
[01:40] <pedro> But your graphics dekstop is differente?
[01:41] <jaro> have you got kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[01:41] <mcrandello> kuzmaster: also one thing I use is the "run command" applet, it sets in the taskbar and youcan type commands in it
[01:41] <pedro> cuz my ubuntu is the same..
[01:41] <mcrandello> it's a lot faster than using the menusif you know the name of the app
[01:41] <jaro> same as what ?
[01:41] <kuzmaster> ok
[01:41] <pedro> the difference is it have now some new menus added
[01:41] <pedro> as old ubunut
[01:41] <pedro> ubuntu
[01:42] <jaro> did you switch from ubuntu to kubuntu ?
[01:42] <pedro> that's what a wanted to do.
[01:43] <pedro> aptitude install kde-desktop...
[01:43] <pedro> that was what I did.
[01:43] <jaro> you have to install kubuntu-desktop
[01:43] <pedro> I did that, I guess
[01:43] <jaro> then you should be able to boot in kde
[01:43] <jaro> best way of course is to install kubuntu from CD
[01:44] <kuzmaster> i turned off automatic mounting of my flash drive, so i how do i manually mount it?
[01:44] <jaro> kuzmaster: is it in the /etc/fstab ?
[01:45] <kuzmaster> its saying it not there
[01:45] <jaro> kuzmaster: it would be something like:  mount /dev/sda
[01:45] <kuzmaster> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:45] <kuzmaster> thanx
[01:45] <jaro> hm
[01:45] <kuzmaster> nope, diddnt work
[01:46] <jaro> i guessed
[01:46] <kuzmaster> mount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:46] <jaro> you must turn automount on again
[01:46] <jaro> or something
[01:46] <kuzmaster> yeah i know
[01:46] <jaro> i dont know
[01:46] <RawSewage> Helpful TIP OF THE DAY:  Make a text file.  Whenever you change something, write down  how you did it
[01:47] <RawSewage> then next time you have to install, you dont have to spend 2 hours looking up the information again
[01:47] <kuzmaster> RawSewage, lol, youre right, if i did do that i would've prevented a lot of painfull nights
[01:47] <mcrandello> also save all those packages you installed but didn't apt-get to a CD
[01:48] <RawSewage> kuzmaster, That was a random tip, not implying anything to anyone
[01:48] <RawSewage> I just thought of doing that
[01:48] <RawSewage> thought I'd share it
[01:48] <imbrandon> mcrandello, ipods are great for that ;)
[01:48] <mcrandello> also save the text file somwhere other than the partition you're reinstalling on ;)
[01:49] <kuzmaster> RawSewage, but its still 100% right
[01:49] <RawSewage> yeah
[01:49] <RawSewage> I need to start doing that
[01:51] <mcrandello> anyone else on with a toshiba laptop and ATI graphics card?
[01:51] <RawSewage> I think so
[01:51] <RawSewage> I have Kubuntu on my Toshiba
[01:52] <mcrandello> you using te fglrx drivers or the radeon and if so how did you get 3d to not freeze up?
[01:52] <driz_> is there limewire for linux
[01:52] <driz_> ?
[01:52] <c0lL> which 3d are you talking about?
[01:52] <jaro> hmm
[01:52] <c0lL> driz_: there is limewire for linux
[01:52] <mcrandello> the fglrx dri which causes the USB to choke and die
[01:52] <RawSewage> No, I didnt do anything fancy with it
[01:53] <c0lL> driz_: its coded in java
[01:53] <jaro> hmm
[01:53] <jaro> i dont understand
[01:53] <mcrandello> RawSewage: I'd avoid the fglrx drivers for a while :)
[01:53] <jaro> most of the Fn- Keys are working
[01:53] <jaro> but not all
[01:53] <driz_> cool how would i get
[01:53] <driz_> ?
[01:54] <c0lL> im using fglrx , and so far its been good , im using a 64bit kubuntu tho
[01:54] <RawSewage> mcrandello, ok
[01:54] <c0lL> !limewire
[01:54] <ubotu> A popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.
[01:54] <mcrandello> c0lL: it seems to only affect Toshiba laptop owners
[01:55] <mcrandello> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/41272
[01:55] <c0lL> mcrandello: ahh , ok , didnt know he was using a laptop
[01:56] <driz_> ok how about flash also sorry for the man questions>
[01:56] <driz_> ?
[01:56] <mcrandello> I submitted a ticket to ATI, they closed it, sent back a form letter, I pushed back and asked them to forward it to the devs as it has to be a bug, now it's a "work in progress" so I'm holding out hope :)
[01:57] <c0lL> yeah , i sent them a complaint letter few days ago
[01:58] <driz_> i got an error
[01:58] <driz_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone?highlight=%28player%29%7C%28flash%29
[01:59] <driz_> sudo apt-get install runLime.sh
[01:59] <driz_> Password:
[01:59] <driz_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:59] <driz_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:59] <driz_> E: Couldn't find package runLime.sh
[01:59] <driz_> not the link sorry
[02:00] <gemidjy> is kde 3.5.3 startup really faster in Kubuntu>?
[02:01] <RawSewage> I can tell you how to make it startup faster
[02:01] <word> for me the boxes for user and pass on the logon don't show up with 3.5.3 :P
[02:01] <gemidjy> RawSewage: share your wisdom
[02:01] <RawSewage> Go to Session Manager in KDE Components, and  'Start with an Empty Session'
[02:02] <gemidjy> I have done that
[02:02] <RawSewage> ok
[02:02] <gemidjy> just was curious if it's worth upgrading it
[02:02] <RawSewage> from?
[02:02] <pickledbushman> hi, im trying to install the skype plugin, but when i try, i get this error:
[02:02] <RawSewage> oh
[02:02] <pickledbushman> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:02] <pickledbushman> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:02] <pickledbushman> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:02] <RawSewage> what version of KDE does Dapper have?
[02:03] <pickledbushman> RawSewage, 3.5 i think
[02:03] <RawSewage> Qt: 3.3.6
[02:03] <RawSewage> KDE: 3.5.2
[02:03] <RawSewage> kde-config: 1.0
[02:04] <Hawkwind> RawSewage: Though it was updated to 3.5.3 the night of the release of dapper
[02:06] <RawSewage> no
[02:06] <RawSewage> I just did a fresh install this morning
[02:06] <RawSewage> downloaded the CD yesterday
[02:08] <Hawkwind> RawSewage: Well 3.5.3 is in the repos if you update your system.  It's in multiverse IIRC
[02:08] <crimsun_> err, no, it's on kubuntu.org
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> Its not its at deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/
[02:09] <RawSewage> what
[02:09] <Hawkwind> Heh
[02:09] <Hawkwind> It's somewhere out there anyways
[02:09] <RawSewage> should I upgrade? or wait for it to enter the normal repos
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main (add that to /etc/apt/sources.list)
[02:10] <RawSewage> is the Kubuntu team still getting 3.53 ready
[02:10] <RawSewage> why isnt it added to the normal repos
[02:12] <crimsun_> the kubuntu team is probably returning/recovering from Paris
[02:12] <RawSewage> wtf are they doing there
[02:13] <crimsun_> the developers' conferences.
[02:13] <RawSewage> oh
[02:13] <crimsun_> conference, rather.
[02:14] <Healot> There is no significant changes in KDE 3.5.3 imhoe
[02:14] <method|> is there anyway to have a file larger than 4 gigs on my linux partition?
[02:15] <r0xz> method|: that would shouldn't be a problem
[02:16] <RawSewage> ok
[02:16] <RawSewage> I'll wait then
[02:16] <method|> I thought when you're not using the ntfs fielsystem that there was a size limit on files
[02:17] <r0xz> method|: with fat32 yes
[02:17] <crimsun_> modern UNIX fs support Very Large Files.
[02:17] <r0xz> but ext3 support a filesize of one tebibyte http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tebibyte
[02:17] <r0xz> (and that's scarry)
[02:19] <Healot> btw FATXX isn;t one of the Linux partition, MS created them iirc
[02:19] <r0xz> correct
[02:20] <r0xz> so use ext3 or reiserfs
[02:20] <Healot> UNIX/Linux partitions have been supporting huge file size like ages before MS does
[02:25] <c0lL> does anyone know who makes linux audio drivers?
[02:25] <crimsun_> meaning?
[02:26] <crimsun_> i.e., OpenSound? ALSA?
[02:28] <c0lL> crimsun_: how can i check which one my pc is using?, and also can i switch them to see which one works bette?
[02:28] <crimsun_> c0lL: ALSA's pretty tightly part of base.
[02:29] <crimsun_> c0lL: "switching" is possible but a pain in the behind.
[02:31] <c0lL> crimsun_:  ok ,im just asking because , the drivers are not tunned because they dont reproduce low frequencies well , or loud enough
[02:31] <c0lL> crimsun_: so i wanted to talk to the driver developers
[02:32] <c0lL> crimsun_: see what they say
[02:33] <crimsun_> can you be more precise about your soundware?
[02:33] <crimsun_> wow, fumblefingers
[02:33] <crimsun_> sound hardware
[02:35] <c0lL> it locks pretty much all the low freqencies (bass)
[02:35] <method|> how do I see how much space i have on a disk?
[02:35] <c0lL> i have the m-audio audiophile 2496
[02:35] <mcrandello> df
[02:36] <Healot> df
[02:36] <mcrandello> actually df -m will give free space in Megabytes
[02:36] <method|> it seems like ubuntu is saying that one of my partitions has no space left with it does
[02:36] <Healot> for KDE GUI, try kdf
[02:36] <c0lL> whats the deal with the harddrive performance tunning service?
[02:36] <Healot> !info kdf
[02:36] <ubotu> kdf: disk space utility for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 320 kB, installed size 948 kB
[02:37] <method|> when i right click on the drive and tell it to calculate the size of the drive it gets 28 gigs
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: I have an m-audio delta 44 (same chipset) if you disable artsd and make sure nothing is clipping it sounds pretty good
[02:37] <method|> but when I do a df, it says the drive is filled to capacity
[02:39] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: is artsd a service or ...? , how can i make sure nothing is clipping?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: Disable the soundserver in System Settings
[02:39] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: does the volume control in the kicker work for you?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: Run sudo alsamixer (check nothing is in the red when you are playing something)
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> C0lL: No wouldn't expect it to as I have 4 seperate outputs
[02:40] <BASEman> I would like to install kubuntu on a Windows machine. Is ntfs resizing well supported by the installer and is it reliable?
[02:40] <driz_> i need to install flash player ca anyone help me?
[02:40] <driz_> can*
[02:40] <crimsun_> BASEman: the alternate installer (text-based), yes
[02:41] <BASEman> crimsun_: doh! I just got the desktop one. Desn't work?
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> C0lL: sudo alsamixer (reduce everything so its not in the red) and then run sudo alsactl store
[02:41] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: i dont see anything about the sound server
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> Sound and Multimedia -> Sound System
[02:42] <jaro> hey... i heard that Dapper Drake comes with an easy configuration of XServer ?
[02:42] <jaro> where is that ??
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: If you install alsa-tools-gui and run envy24control it looks similar to the windows m-audio interface
[02:43] <Hawkwind> Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong.  I've mounted an NFS share from my server box onto this box locally, but owner/group are both 501 and I can't write to this NFS or delete or anything else.
[02:43] <jaro> ah here is the Main Problem : The Monitor (Laptop) wont be detected correctly
[02:44] <Hawkwind> I just switched to Kubuntu from Mandriva yesterday, and it seems I'm doing nothing different than I was there yet I have no access to the NFS share
[02:44] <jaro> so.. sometimes the screen just goes black and wont come back anymore until reboot
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: are you mounting the nfshare with -o nolock ?
[02:47] <juan> Is anyone using the baghira theme ?
[02:47] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: No I haven't used that switch.  Never did on the other OS either
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: It takes ages to connect without that switch (most of the time)
[02:47] <gilster> how do i get a Logitech quick cam to work in LTS?
[02:48] <gilster> dapper
[02:48] <driz_> i need help with flsh player
[02:48] <driz_> flash
[02:49] <scast> what kind of help?
[02:49] <RawSewage> can people browse my files even if they dont have the password
[02:49] <crimsun_> BASEman: the desktop one with the graphical installer has outstanding issues with NTFS partitions.
[02:49] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Well I just tried that -o nolock and I'm still unable to write/delete
[02:49] <driz_> installing it is there a link anyone can give me
[02:49] <gilster> does this quickcam work in kubuntu>
[02:49] <RawSewage> Whats the point of using a password if anyone can read the files    with a live CD or something
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: But it mounts ?
[02:50] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Did it before ?
[02:50] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Yes it mounts fine.  But perms show 501 for user/group
[02:50] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: It mounted before, but took forever like you stated when not using the -o nolock flag
[02:50] <BASEman> crimsun_: I saw references in the common issues but it didn't seem an issue for me. Is there anything else? bug number?
[02:51] <gilster> so no quickcam in kubuntu?
[02:51] <Healot>   !hardware
[02:52] <BASEman> crimsun_: I meant the known problems page
[02:52] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: 192.168.1.102:/storage on /archives/myserver type nfs (rw,nolock,addr=192.168.1.102)  <~~Here is what 'mount' shows right now. Not sure if that helps you any
[02:52] <LjL> gilster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:53] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Seems the problem might be that this user on this system has the 1000 ID, when it seems like I need to have a 501 ID or something
[02:53] <Healot> Hawkwind: what's the server OS?
[02:53] <Hawkwind> Healot: Mandriva 2006
[02:54] <Hawkwind> This box was Mandriva up til yesterday and my user had the 501 ID, where in Kubuntu it has 1000
[02:54] <Healot> either change your ID to 501 in ubuntu or the user id in mandriva to 1000...
[02:55] <Hawkwind> Healot: How can I do that within Kubuntu, and will that break anything if I just change it from 1000 to 501 ?
[02:55] <Healot> not everything....
[02:56] <crimsun_> BASEman: search Malone for "installer crashed"
[02:56] <method|> one of my drives is being recognized as being full. In windows it doesnt show up as full. I even deleted some stuff, emptied trash and it still shows up as full. How do I solve this?
[02:56] <Hawkwind> Healot: Not everything ?
[02:56] <Hawkwind> Healot: I'd prefer a fix that breaks nothing at all :)
[02:56] <Healot> change the your files user group accordingly
[02:56] <driz_> anyone
[02:56] <Healot> only the files you own...
[02:56] <driz_> flash player install help
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: There is a way to specify the uid and gid to connect it as but I can't remember it off the top of my head
[02:57] <c0lL> h3sp4wn:where is thet sound server you were talking about?
[02:57] <Healot> KDE Menu - > System Settings -> Users & Groups == Hawkwind
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: /usr/bin/artsd
[02:57] <Healot> !flash
[02:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <BASEman> !malone
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about malone
[02:58] <driz_> thank you
[02:58] <c0lL> h3sp4wn:should i uninstall it ? or delete it ?  or what
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: Just disable it from running from system settings
[02:59] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: ok , thank you
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> Sounds and Multimedia then Sound System (just untick it) sound will still work
[03:00] <Hawkwind> Healot: I've looked in systemsettings but I'm scared that changing that 1000 to 501 is going to break my system
[03:00] <kblog> how can i change from gdm to kdm?
[03:01] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: u mean , uncheck the "enable the sound system"?
[03:01] <Healot> Hawkwind: it may affect the files you own
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: Yes
[03:01] <Healot> but you change the user id for the owner manually... Hawkwind
[03:01] <Hawkwind> Healot: Yeah I can't risk that
[03:01] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: ahhhh , i was looking for a server , ooops
[03:01] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: thanks
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> c0lL: You might also want to try using envy24control as your mixer
[03:02] <driz_> is there something simillar to GIMP on Kubuntu
[03:02] <c0lL> h3sp4wn: go that , ty
[03:02] <Healot> KIMP, nah...
[03:02] <Healot> just install GIMP, it works in both desktop
[03:03] <driz_> lol
[03:03] <driz_> ok
[03:03] <LjL> driz_: what about Krita?
[03:04] <Healot> !info krita
[03:04] <driz_> LjL: i haven't used it i thought it would be like paint
[03:04] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 2516 kB, installed size 7976 kB
[03:04] <driz_> i have Krita
[03:04] <kblog> LjL: krita is far less powerful than gimp
[03:04] <Healot> driz_: do you need soemthing as powerful as GIMP?
[03:04] <LjL> kblog: it's still most definitely something similar to the GIMP for KDE
[03:04] <driz_> Healot: ya i do alo of image editing and tuff
[03:05] <kblog> probably yes
[03:05] <Healot> driz_: then GIMP to go...
[03:05] <driz_> ok then
[03:05] <driz_> thanks
[03:05] <driz_> so i can just sudo apt-get install gimp
[03:05] <Healot> sudo apt-get install pimp :)
[03:05] <Healot> hohoho i joke
[03:05] <driz_> lol
[03:06] <lugod> !80311b
[03:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about 80311b
[03:06] <lugod> !80211b
[03:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about 80211b
[03:06] <lugod> !wireless
[03:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:07] <lugod> !networkmanager
[03:07] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[03:10] <Tanooki> Hi
[03:11] <scast>  Hi
[03:11] <LjL`> sorry for leaving midway, but i got disconnected
[03:11] <Road> For some reason I can't create another partition with every partition tool I try. Is there a limit to how many partitions one can have?
[03:12] <Tanooki> In the Adept package manager, when I select a specific package to install, says "BREAK (install)" instead of just "install" under Requested Changes.  Why?  What's breaking?
[03:12] <pickledbushman> arg, kde bites sometimes
[03:12] <Healot> Road: with basic disk 4 primaries
[03:13] <pickledbushman> Tanooki: i believe the path to the backage is broken
[03:13] <Healot> 3 primaries + 1 extended (primary) with many logical partitions in it
[03:13] <pickledbushman> but i could be wrong
[03:13] <Road> Ok, I have 4 primaries but I need another one, I have my main windows drive (my dad won't let me delete), Linux Ext3 (I don't want to delete), Linux Swap (I think it is important) and 'type 88
[03:13] <Road> can I delete the type 88 one? will it screw up linux?
[03:13] <Healot> Road: max 4 primaries, you're done with basic disk
[03:14] <Tanooki> pickledbushman: Does that mean I can't install it?
[03:15] <pickledbushman> Tanooki: i dont think so, prehaps make ure sources list is all good, then rather use aptitude to install the package
[03:15] <pickledbushman> ie: sudo aptitude install packagename
[03:15] <Healot> either delete one of the 4 primary and create an extended primary (where you can add logical partitions)... or convert those linux partitions into logical and put them under an extended partition
[03:16] <jaro> hi alll
[03:16] <Road> Healot: I see a small partition called type 88, I plan to delete it but is it nessasary for linux operation?
[03:16] <jaro> is there any XCOnfig Tool like SaX for Debian ?
[03:17] <Healot> Road: does the partition contains data?
[03:17] <Road> it is completely full of data 251mb
[03:17] <Healot> 88  Linux plaintext >>
[03:17] <Road> Do I need it?
[03:18] <Healot> hmmm... to be safe, back up the data on you Linux partitions first...
[03:18] <Healot> I am not sure, it's really up to you... Road
[03:18] <Road> ok. I think the simplest solution would be to put Type 88 into extended
[03:18] <Road> how do you do that?
[03:18] <Healot> since Dad in charge. I suggest you recreate Linux partitions under one extended partition
[03:19] <Road> my list goes NTFS, Unallocates, Linux Ext3, Extended, Linux Swap, Type 88
[03:19] <Road> well how do you do that?
[03:19] <Healot> Road: you can do that with (qt)(g)parted or with fdisk (advanced)
[03:19] <Road> can you do it with partition magic?
[03:19] <jaro> is there any XCOnfig Tool like SaX for Debian ?
[03:19] <Healot> Road: paste the output to pastebin.com
[03:20] <Healot> Road: yes, absolutely
[03:20] <Healot> with PM
[03:20] <Road> I'll imageshack the window perhaps?
[03:20] <Healot> sudo fdisk -l <your harddisk device>
[03:20] <Road> (well I'm in windows now >_>)
[03:20] <Healot> yeah... give me the PM layout of the disk
[03:22] <Frederick> folks why does the debugger in kdevelop does find the executable when Im using kubuntu?
[03:22] <Road> Healot: http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8284/untitled8qj.png
[03:23] <Healot> use a lower compression next time :)
[03:23] <Road> compression?
[03:23] <Healot> PNG is hugw
[03:23] <Road> Oh crap is it bitmap?
[03:24] <Road> Yea, I'll use JPEG next time, slipped my mind, sorry
[03:24] <Healot> sorry can't see the img... bunker on the load
[03:25] <Healot> mmmkay
[03:26] <Road> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/774/untitled6hu.jpg
[03:26] <Healot> suggestion: put/change the Linux partition into the extended partition
[03:26] <Road> How do you do that in partitionmagic?
[03:27] <Healot> Click right on the partition list, see the menu?
[03:27] <root> qualke italianooooooooooo?
[03:27] <Road> is it resize/move?
[03:27] <Healot> no, list me the menus that are available
[03:28] <Road> General, View, Disk, Partition, Tools, Tasks, Help
[03:28] <Healot> Road: select the partition on the disk partition chart
[03:29] <Healot> click right mouse button, read  the menu on the popup menu
[03:29] <Road> ok,
[03:29] <RawSewage> anyone try Celestia
[03:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a mail app the can grab mail from yahoo , msn and google?
[03:30] <Healot> regular POP3/SMTP client can do that
[03:30] <Healot> Yahoo/Google support POP3/STMP now...
[03:30] <Road> (only doing ones that aren't grey) Browse, Resize/move, delete, label, format, convert, properties, check for errors, Advanced >
[03:30] <Healot> read about that on the respective webmail
[03:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> alright
[03:30] <Healot> Road: Choose the menu Convert
[03:31] <Healot> not sure about MSN/Hotmail
[03:31] <Road> seems to be the way to go, converting to logical pertition may cause the partition to not be bootable and may chance drive letters :/
[03:31] <Healot> yeah
[03:31] <Road> It still will boot right?
[03:32] <Healot> Road: after the conversion, nay
[03:32] <Road> Then how do I boot up linux?
[03:32] <Healot> boot off a liveCD or make a grubdisk (floppy) before executing the conversion
[03:33] <Healot> so you'll have a backup boot device
[03:33] <Healot> !grub
[03:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:33] <Healot> those link will help explain further
[03:33] <Road> Too confusing O_O besides, I don't have a floppy drive, and livecd's are slow. I think I should have told you earlier, but the drive I plan to make is gonna be an FAT32 drive to connect windows and Linux
[03:34] <Healot> Road: do you have working gNU/Linux OS right now, with grub or lilo?
[03:34] <Road> yes, with grub
[03:34] <Healot> use the liveCD then to recover the Grub menu...
[03:35] <Road> How do you do that? Will it recover permanently or will I need the livecd every time?
[03:36] <Healot> yes, grub will rebuild the partition list... so you can boot the partition even after changing the partition order
[03:36] <Healot> you may need to manually edit your fstab entries... use the liveCD to do that...
[03:36] <Road> What would I want in my fstab
[03:37] <Healot> well, after you convert teh partitions... the partition order will definitely change
[03:37] <Healot> so your fstab entry isn't valid...
[03:37] <Road> ok, so what is the command to look it up again?
[03:38] <Healot> change the partition entry on fstab to make sure your partitions can be mounted later
[03:38] <Healot> Road: three stages i) check the disk order/device using fdisk (during the live CD session)
[03:39] <Road> What is fdisk?
[03:39] <Healot> ii) mount the Linux partition... edit the fstab file on its etc directory...
[03:39] <Healot> fdisk is the mother of Linux partitioning program...
[03:39] <jeremyb> that link to recover grub is real cool, I ended up reinstalling ubuntu after I installed Vista
[03:40] <Healot> it is advice to install NT operating systems first before GNU/Linux OS
[03:40] <jeremyb> I looked all over google but didn't try irc
[03:40] <Healot> iii) reinstall grub... and boot off again...
[03:41] <Healot> I know it's hard for you... so let's do the other method...
[03:41] <Healot> oh PM version 8
[03:42] <Healot> Road: you can copy the files on you linux partition first to you Windows drives :)
[03:42] <Road> (there are no files on my linux partition, I installed it today)
[03:42] <Hawkwind> Healot: I fixed the problem.  I added all_squash,anonuid=501,anongid=501 to my /etc/exports on the server and now when I mount it here locally it works perfectly fine :)
[03:42] <Healot> delete all the other partitions, recreate those logical them under and extended primary, c
[03:42] <Healot> Hawkwind: changing the id works?
[03:43] <Hawkwind> Healot: I didn't change any ID's anywhere.  Just added those lines to the /etc/exports on the server and it works fine
[03:43] <Healot> the uid for the share...
[03:44] <Healot> mmkay i am jotting that down...
[03:44] <Hawkwind> Healot: I tried about 100 different options from man exports til I finally got one that allowed me to read/write/delete
[03:45] <Road> Healot, is it possible to create a drive in logical form or does it have to be created in basic?
[03:45] <Healot> yes... you can create logical partitions under an extended primary partitions
[03:46] <Healot> btw it is what extended primary intend to do
[03:46] <Healot> my suggestion, put all you linux partition under that extended partition
[03:46] <Road> So then why don't I move the Linux Ext3 up, so the unallocated space is beside extended then make that a lovical drive. Wouldn't that seem ... logical?
[03:46] <Healot> you have max 4 primary partitions
[03:47] <Healot> so the space left is rendered unusable
[03:47] <Road> But can't I make it as a logical drive if it is beside extended?
[03:47] <Healot> no
[03:47] <Road> how come?
[03:47] <Snake[ONAIR] > http://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/Music/radio.m3u
[03:48] <Healot> remember the basic disk rule, 4 primaries or 3 primaries + 1 extended primary
[03:48] <Healot> btw the only extended partition on your disk is fully used
[03:49] <Road> yes, I would have the NTFS, the Linux, the Extended which has the currently unused space and the linux swap and the wierd type 88 at the end
[03:49] <Road> byt can't I move the linux partition?
[03:49] <Healot> Road: no...
[03:49] <Road> Why not?
[03:49] <Healot> read the partition type on last colum
[03:49] <Healot> what does it says?
[03:49] <Road> Primary? Primary drives can't be moved?
[03:49] <Healot> you have 4 primary partition already
[03:50] <Healot> thus you can't create more primary partitions
[03:50] <noiesmo> hello all I have a folder i want to archive and encrypt and I used kgpg now when i go to restore the fiolder it errors unencrypting it and the resulting zip file is corrupt and I am unable to retrieve the data anyone got any suggestions
[03:51] <Healot> since you dont' have personal data on that linux partition... just delete all the other partition except that NTFS partition
[03:51] <Road> ok, I'll do that, and reinstall linux
[03:51] <nrdb> I have just upgraded to dapper this default to using kernel 2.6.15-25-386 but this doesn't find my network card!  If I boot from the 2.6.12-10-386 kernel it does find my network card!  can anyone help with this?
[03:51] <Road> Thanks for all your help, sorry for the bother, I got to sleep now, good night
[03:51] <Healot> then you can create another 2 primary and 1 extended (where you can put your logical Linux partition)
[03:55] <Healot> wish I can get my own bitches
[03:55] <hybrid> wish you would keep the language friendly
[03:56] <Healot> read the quit message
[03:56] <hybrid> not much i can say to them now is there?
[03:58] <nrdb> Does anyone know why the 2.6.15-25-386 kernel can't find my network card, but kernel 2.6.12-10-286 can?
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> What make of network card ?
[03:58] <nrdb> opps thats 2.6.12-10-386 can?
[03:58] <driz_> I have a problem loading Amarok it just doesnt load at all
[03:58] <driz_> ?
[03:59] <jaro> is there any XCOnfig Tool like SaX for Debian ?
[04:00] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I don't know, is there a way to find out?  maybe the module its using isn't in the newer kernel.
[04:00] <imbrandon> jaro, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <driz_> it shows amarok on the task bar and then it never  shows up at all.
[04:00] <driz_> ?
[04:00] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Do you have linux-restricted-modules installed ?
[04:01] <noiesmo> well that really sucks I've just lost access to data thanks to gpg encryption and I did test before deleting the unencrypted data and it work now it doesnt and the passpharse is correct bugger it
[04:02] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: yes! what is it?
[04:02] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: for both kernels
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> binary modules for it which are not free
[04:03] <unix_infidel> noiesmo: next time use a symmetric key with a decent cipher algo
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> run ifconfig -a (do you get any eth device ?)
[04:04] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: when using 2.6.15-25-386 "ifconfig" doesn't show anything but the "lo" entry.
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> ifconfig -a (or just ifconfig ?)
[04:05] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: just "ifconfig"
[04:05] <gybot> anyone
[04:05] <gybot> please help
[04:05] <noiesmo> unix_infidel, easy to say but thats still a bit piss poor justed followed the dam kgpg wizard but anyway lesson learnt dont always trust wizards
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: ifconfig -a will show all the detected devices even ones which are not active
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> lspci  | grep Ethernet (What is the manufacturer)
[04:06] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: to test that I would need to reboot twice, I can, do you want me to do that?
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: I am just talking about at the moment (I would expect sit0 to appear in ifconfig -a but not ifconfig)
[04:08] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: at the moment I get an entry for eth0 lo and sit0
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: run lspci | grep Ethernet (You will get a line like 01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10))
[04:09] <j_luges> could somebody try to help me out
[04:09] <j_luges> how do i unblock websites?
[04:09] <noiesmo> !nvidia
[04:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I get "0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21142/43 (rev 41)"
[04:10] <j_luges> how do you block/unblock pages in kubuntu?
[04:10] <j_luges> could somebody give me some instructions
[04:10] <unix_infidel> define block pages
[04:10] <j_luges> websites
[04:11] <j_luges> my brother blocked a website because he doesnt like the game i play there
[04:11] <j_luges> and i want to unblock it
[04:11] <unix_infidel> he probably did it through the router config.
[04:11] <j_luges> its only blocked on this computer
[04:12] <gybot> does anyone has a good help link for flash player
[04:12] <nrdb> j_luges: you probably need to look at the config for your browser.
[04:12] <gybot> for a webbrowser
[04:12] <unix_infidel> !flash
[04:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <unix_infidel> j_luges: that doesnt matter.
[04:12] <j_luges> im using konqueror
[04:12] <unix_infidel> i block AIM on my sister's computer from a specific time to a specific time through my router
[04:12] <j_luges> how would i go about this
[04:12] <unix_infidel> and i set it for ONLY the computers she has access to.
[04:13] <j_luges> nrdb:how?
[04:13] <unix_infidel> either that or he set an iptables rule for it.
[04:14] <j_luges> so is there any way for me to disable them?
[04:14] <nrdb> j_luges: can you ping the site?
[04:14] <j_luges> how
[04:14] <unix_infidel> holy jebus...i give up...
[04:14] <Healot> that reminds me of ISA server
[04:14] <j_luges> sorry about my noviceness
[04:15] <j_luges> how do i ping it, and whats the point
[04:15] <nrdb> j_luges: open a 'terminal' and type 'ping <website>' without the http:// at the begining e.g 'ping google.com.au'
[04:15] <j_luges> okeydokey
[04:16] <j_luges> 127.0.0.1
[04:17] <nrdb> j_luges: what website are you trying to get though to?
[04:17] <j_luges> www.runescape.com
[04:17] <noiesmo> !kgpg
[04:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about kgpg
[04:17] <unix_infidel> noiesmo: like i said, use a symmetric key.
[04:18] <noiesmo> unix_infidel, yes thanks   easy to say but thats still a bit piss poor justed followed the dam kgpg wizard but anyway lesson learnt dont always trust wizards
[04:18] <unix_infidel> noiesmo: use regular gpg.
[04:18] <unix_infidel> lesson learned, dont trust gui stuff for sensitive work.
[04:18] <unix_infidel> LOL
[04:19] <j_luges> nrdb:what should i do now?
[04:19] <noiesmo> unix_infidel, yes funny as :(
[04:19] <nrdb> j_luges: there does seem to be something wrong with your router.  try puting this address in the webbrowser http://64.37.71.203
[04:20] <j_luges> ooh it worked
[04:20] <j_luges> thanks
[04:20] <j_luges> where did you pull that from?
[04:22] <nrdb> j_luges: that is the IP address of www.runescape.com.  All web names get decoded into an address, I just ask ping what the address of www.runescape.com was.
[04:22] <j_luges> ok thanks
[04:22] <j_luges> so what do you think was wrong with it
[04:23] <nrdb> j_luges: to be able to use the name again you will need to find out how the name lookup was blocked.
[04:23] <j_luges> i have no idea how to find out
[04:24] <j_luges> i suspect my brother did it though
[04:24] <nrdb> j_luges: have a look at the file '/etc/hosts' and see if runescape is meantioned.
[04:24] <j_luges> ok
[04:24] <j_luges> yep. =] 
[04:25] <j_luges> he blocked the i.p 127.0.0.1 too
[04:25] <j_luges> thats why that one wasnt working either
[04:25] <j_luges> if i just delete all them will it work again?
[04:26] <nrdb> j_luges: it shouldn't be.  what he did was override the lookup of the name.  too get it working you would need to remove this line, it might be advisable to leave it there and use the IP address, because block the address will be difficult.
[04:26] <lowtech> who's box is it, yours or your brothers?
[04:27] <j_luges> its shared
[04:27] <j_luges> family one
[04:27] <lowtech> gee, nice brother. heh
[04:29] <m5m> I just dl'ed Inkscape 0.44 in .package format... I installed it earlier on another kubuntu system and it works great, my only question is when you install a .package formatted application, does that integrate with apt-get?
[04:31] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: do you have any idea why the new kernel doesn't like my network card?
[04:32] <nrdb> j_luges: what are you going to do?
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Which kernel are you running at the moment ?
[04:33] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: the older one 2.6.12-10-386
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod'
[04:34] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: of which kernel new/old?
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: old
[04:34] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: yes hang on a second
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Can you get online from another machine (once you are booted into the new one)
[04:34] <j_luges> i had to put to groceries away sorry
[04:35] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I think so I need to check if it being used.
[04:36] <j_luges> theres actually a few lines there
[04:37] <j_luges> this is strange
[04:37] <j_luges> when i open it in konqueror it shows the runescape sites blocked
[04:37] <j_luges> but when i try to edit it in kate its not there
[04:40] <nrdb> j_luges: to change the file you will need the root password. do you have it?
[04:40] <j_luges> yeh
[04:41] <nrdb> j_luges: try 'kdesu kate /etc/hosts'
[04:41] <j_luges> ok
[04:41] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I pasted the output to "http://pastebin.com/729620"
[04:42] <erik__> I'm about to start crying... how do I sync my mobile (Nokia 6280) with Kontact? I have tried kandy and kmobiletools but I don't understand how they work it seems
[04:43] <j_luges> nrdb:do i type that into the terminal?
[04:43] <nrdb> j_luges: yes
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: pastebin seems to be responding really slowly from my connection
[04:43] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: it took about 2 min to upload the data.
[04:44] <j_luges> there we go, thanks nrdb
[04:44] <nrdb> j_luges: I would only expect one line to have your website meantioned.
[04:45] <j_luges> there we about 7 i think
[04:45] <j_luges> he blocked just "www.runescape.com" to start
[04:45] <j_luges> and "runescape.com"
[04:45] <j_luges> but i got around it using "www.runescape.de"
[04:45] <j_luges> he found out somehow
[04:45] <j_luges> so he blocked that too
[04:46] <nrdb> j_luges: so there are several varations on runescape?
[04:46] <j_luges> there are two sites
[04:46] <j_luges> exactly the same
[04:46] <j_luges> but different names for the sites
[04:46] <j_luges> i dont know why
[04:46] <j_luges> to get around blocks i suppose. =[)
[04:47] <nrdb> j_luges: what is your brother likely to do when he finds out you can reset his block?
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: pcmcia card ?
[04:48] <j_luges> hmm im not sure
[04:48] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: no there isn't, its probably just started auto.
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: I think it is using tulip
[04:49] <nrdb> j_luges: it might be wise to leave the block in place and use the IP address, leaving your brother to wonder why the block isn't working.
[04:49] <gybot> true^
[04:50] <j_luges> umm ok if i can remember it...
[04:50] <gybot> let him think your an idiot
[04:50] <gybot> while your not
[04:50] <j_luges> =] 
[04:50] <nrdb> j_luges: write it down.
[04:50] <gybot> :-D
[04:51] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: should I see if the tulip module is in the new kernel?
[04:51] <Frederick> folks why is debbuger messed with kdevelop? it doesn't behaves as it did in gentoo =/
[04:51] <j_luges> too late i deleted it lol
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: just one last thing run lshw and paste the bits that are under *-network
[04:51] <j_luges> oh good i copy'ed it before i deleted it
[04:51] <j_luges> strange the root pass isnt working now...
[04:52] <nrdb> j_luges: could it have been changed?
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: especially interested in the configuration: broadcast=yes driver= (bit of it I would expect it to say tulip) but maybe it does not
[04:52] <j_luges> i doubt it
[04:52] <j_luges> its supposed to be my password
[04:52] <j_luges> and my brother isnt even home atm
[04:54] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I can now use another computer, do you want me to reset this one?
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: I want to be certain that tulip is the right driver first
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Look in lshw
[04:55] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: uploading now.
[04:56] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.com/729643
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> I think someone is trying to DOS pastebin.com
[04:56] <nrdb> it is very slow, at the moment.
[04:57] <j_luges> root isnt working at all
[04:59] <nrdb> j_luges: does 'kdesu kate' put up a dialog asking for the root password?
[04:59] <j_luges> it opens a thingy which says "Su returned with an error"
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Still not managed to get there
[05:01] <nrdb> j_luges: I don't know what can cause this.  what do you get if you type 'sudo whoami'
[05:02] <j_luges> "sudo:unable to lookup laptop via gethostbyname()"
[05:03] <nrdb> j_luges: looks like you have a problem there I don't know what.
[05:04] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: do you know of another pastbin like service?
[05:05] <j_luges> =(
[05:05] <j_luges> hmm theres another little problem.....
[05:05] <j_luges> normally when i try to load runescape
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Not of the top of my head but once you are on the new kernel try doing sudo modprobe tulip && dhclient eth0 (are you using dhcp ?)
[05:05] <j_luges> it will first ask me to accept some thingy
[05:05] <j_luges> i click on "grant all"
[05:05] <j_luges> and it will proceed to load
[05:06] <j_luges> but now its just a white box...
[05:06] <j_luges> it says "loading applet" in the centre
[05:06] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: yes I am using dhcp
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Try doing that to start with and if it doesn't work I will try some other stuff
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: 'sudo modprobe tulip && dhclient eth0'
[05:07] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: have a look at http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1793/
[05:08] <j_luges> do you think this problem has something to do with java?
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> nrbd: That is alot faster (I saw it before) its definately needs to use tulip
[05:09] <nrdb> j_luges: I can't help there, got to reset this computer.
[05:09] <j_luges> okeydokey
[05:09] <j_luges> brb i might try restarting
[05:10] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I will connect from the other computer, has to boot a live cd first.
[05:11] <feistel> hi
[05:12] <feistel> someone can tell-me default groups for default user?
[05:12] <feistel> please, I need recreate the default user
[05:13] <MNK2_> adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, vidoe, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin
[05:13] <feistel> thanks!
[05:18] <moparisthebest> can someone tell me how to run a shell command as root?
[05:18] <moparisthebest> ive tried su
[05:18] <moparisthebest> and sudo
[05:19] <moparisthebest> but it says authentication failed
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i would be the easiest way
[05:19] <moparisthebest> im assuming you use the same pass you use to log in with right?
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> yes
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> (That will just give you a root prompt - then you can run the command directly)
[05:19] <dr_willis> :)
[05:20] <moparisthebest> ah, ok thanks
[05:20] <moparisthebest> i think i can handle it now i appreciate it :)
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: I take it thats not suppost to be recommended ?
[05:20] <dr_willis> i dont even knwo whats going on
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> Neither do I
[05:21] <moparisthebest> i asked: <moparisthebest> can someone tell me how to run a shell command as root?
[05:21] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I am back.  with the new kernel.  eth0 is now known as eth1!!
[05:21] <moparisthebest> :P
[05:21] <dr_willis> sudo -s
[05:21] <dr_willis> i thought.. or is it -i
[05:21] <dr_willis> i forget. :P
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> sudo -s is the one that is not suppost to be recommended
[05:21] <moparisthebest> whats the difference?
[05:22] <dr_willis> gksudo xterm -bg red -fg black -title 'WARNING THIS IS A ROOT SHELL'
[05:22] <dr_willis> :P
[05:22] <dr_willis> actually im not sure about the -ttle part. :P i tend to just have bright red shells that are my root shells
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> sudo -s doesn't reset environment variables (i.e $HOME probably others)
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> sudo sh /path/to/shellscript.sh (which is the recommended way I think)
[05:26] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: with the new kernel the ethernet card is now known as eth1, is there a way I can rename it back to eth0?
[05:27] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Is it necessary ? you can just change the eth0 to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:28] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: probably not.  Do you know why the change happened?
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Trying to use another driver which didn't work properly
[05:30] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: Could be lots of things (but the amount of time it would take me to find out is quite alot) you would have to try blacklisting stuff and if its working I don't think its worth it
[05:30] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: could changing the /etc/network/interfaces file cause problems when the next kernel upgrade happens?
[05:30] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: I doubt it dapper will be staying on pretty much the exact same kernel with just security updates now
[05:31] <dr_willis> thats how they tend to do it
[05:31] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: Do you think I should leave the line in for eth0 and add another for eth1?
[05:31] <dr_willis> but not sure if edgy will be a 6 mo release  or  if it will be released after 6mo
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: I would just change it to eth1 its easy enough to change it back
[05:33] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: OK, thanks for helping. :)
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: No problem (pastebin being so slow was annoying though for me but nothing to do with you)
[05:34] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: When will you be switching to edgy ?
[05:34] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  problery 2 mo  after its released. :P
[05:35] <dr_willis> I got a file server still running warty,, or breezy.. i forget. :P
[05:36] <moparisthebest> does anyone know how to set enviromental variables?
[05:36] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: I have another little problem, I would like to fix if its easy, when the new kernel is doing its startup printing it seems to be using a diferent video mode from earlier kernels, as the font (on my computer) has black scan lines in it.  can I add something to grub to change this?
[05:37] <bobstro>  moparisthebest: system-wide, or just in a script or?
[05:37] <osiris> add the path to ld.so.conf ?
[05:37] <osiris> run ldconfig ?
[05:37] <moparisthebest> system wide
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> nrdb: try vga=normal
[05:37] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  well, you can set them in the various bash config files if you want in term sessions.
[05:37] <nrdb> h3sp4wn: ok
[05:38] <moparisthebest> i know how to set them in scripts, i was just wondering how to set them permanently
[05:39] <Hobbsee> moparisthebest: set them in ~.bashrc?
[05:41] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  would the bash init scripts do it?
[05:41] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  that's how i do it.
[05:42] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  but of course, that assumes they'll be used in a bash environment.
[05:42] <moparisthebest> i dont know bobstro this is my first 3 hours on linux
[05:43] <moparisthebest> right now a shell script needs to have those enviromental variables set
[05:43] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  ah, ok. :) can you describe what you're trying to do? then we can probably be more helpful.
[05:43] <moparisthebest> well im trying to run intellij IDEA
[05:43] <moparisthebest> its a java ide
[05:43] <Tommy2k4> eww its moparisthebest
[05:43] <moparisthebest> hey Tommy2k4 i thought that was you :P
[05:43] <Tommy2k4> :@
[05:43] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  if it's a shell script, depending on whether it's a login session or not, you can set it in the various bashrc scripts.
[05:44] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  spend an evening with the bash manpage for details. there's a LOT to it.
[05:44] <Tommy2k4> o_o
[05:44] <moparisthebest> where would I find that at bobstro?
[05:44] <bobstro> moparisthebest:  man bash
[05:44] <Tommy2k4> kopete wont open :s
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Tommy2k4: ah yes.  is it in the panel, but wont properly open?
[05:45] <Tommy2k4> im trying to open it from k-menu
[05:45] <Tommy2k4> i click on it and the cursor shows its trying to open but then it goes away
[05:45] <moparisthebest> ok, thanks bobstro :)
[05:46] <Tommy2k4> same happens when i run kopete from alt + f2
[05:46] <duckdown> freenode got hacked or some shit?
[05:46] <moparisthebest> would the kubuntu knowledge base be the best place for questions and such that I have?\
[05:46] <Tommy2k4> best thing is to blame moparisthebest  for everything
[05:47] <Tommy2k4> off to bed, cya
[05:47] <moparisthebest> Tommy2k4: where you been? :P
[06:19] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> are there any games i can get with apt-get?
[06:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> that dont look better then atari65 games
[06:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> that do
[06:20] <sdlnxgk> anyone having problems mounting cdrom drive???
[06:23] <Melchiorre> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: probably not, but there are fun ones ;)
[06:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , just tell me something 
[06:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> im bored 
[06:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> and want to see if my video card can actually work under linux
[06:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> compromise?  you mean you got hacked?
[06:25] <Melchiorre> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: try tuxkart (I can't remember if that's the one I played, but one of the tux racers was hilerious ;))
[06:25] <jsubl2> anyone know of a good doc to setup kontact to sync addressbook and contact via bluetooth to a smartphone
[06:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok
[06:26] <Melchiorre> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Actually, armagetron is good fun, and will test your card out nicely... (you just need to crank the settings up a bit from the default)
[06:50] <ubuntu_> whats going on
[06:50] <sword-> hey is there an option for software raid in the kubuntu live install CD
[06:51] <sword-> or will I have to use the ubuntu cd
[06:51] <CoLLossuS> not sure if its on the live cd
[06:52] <Hobbsee> sword-: freenode got compromised
[06:52] <sword-> its a cd i downloaded from the kubuntu site
[06:52] <CoLLossuS> why do u use a live cd/?  u just want to check it out?
[06:52] <sword-> Hobbsee: really? hmm
[06:52] <sword-> no i dont think its a live cd
[06:52] <sword-> it takes me to a graphical desktop
[06:52] <sword-> of kde
[06:52] <sword-> and i can click it to install
[06:52] <sword-> BUT im using it now.... on /home/ubuntu
[06:52] <CoLLossuS> do u have a textmode install option?
[06:53] <sword-> on this cd no
[06:53] <sword-> http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[06:53] <sword-> thats one the one i downloaded
[06:53] <sword-> oh shit
[06:53] <sword-> i see it now
[06:53] <sword-> alternate install cd
[06:53] <CoLLossuS> thats what u have?
[06:53] <sword-> no downloading it now :)
[06:53] <sword-> lol
[06:54] <CoLLossuS> yeah use the alternate
[06:54] <CoLLossuS> and use the texmode install option 
[06:54] <CoLLossuS> that one has software raid setup for sure
[06:54] <CoLLossuS> have u ever set up a software raid?
[06:54] <sword-> i want to preserve my /home directory and format everything else
[06:54] <sword-> CoLLossuS: yes
[06:55] <CoLLossuS> sword-: ull be alright then , but not sure how u gonna keep the home dir if u wanna setup raid
[06:56] <sword-> ive did it before
[06:57] <sword-> wow where does this temporary filesystem go when downloading this cd i wonder
[06:57] <sword-> wow where does this temporary filesystem go when downloading this cd i wonder
[06:57] <sword-> oops
[07:02] <jsubl2> !bluetooth
[07:04] <osiris> its fixed it seems
[07:04] <ArmedGeek> wow
[07:05] <osiris> see the difference a hub server can make ?
[07:05] <dr_willis> not really. :P
[07:08] <moparisthebest> in konqueror I dont have a "window" menu, does anyone know why?
[07:09] <dr_willis> try a differnt theme moparisthebest .
[07:10] <dr_willis> it dont always have to be on the top left icon
[07:11] <moparisthebest> a different theme?
[07:14] <moparisthebest> in konqueror I dont have a "window" menu, does anyone know why? I cant find anything online either :S
[07:15] <ArmedGeek> i don't have a "window" menu either .. wasn't aware there was supposed to be one
[07:16] <moparisthebest> yes, according to the manual
[07:17] <moparisthebest> In Konqueror, you can turn this on with the menu choice Window->Show Terminal Emulator.
[07:17] <moparisthebest> there it is ^
[07:18] <moparisthebest> and the screenshot the manual has has a window menu, is it a menu bug or does everyone else have a window menu?
[07:45] <tawedog> hi!
[07:47] <xskullr> hi
[07:50] <tawedog> anyone feel like telling me how to get my kaffeine dvb-t sound working? :)
[08:42] <unix_infidel> what command would i run to check the integrity of the files on a partition?
[08:44] <bobstro> unix_infidel:  you mean a filesystem check?
[08:45] <unix_infidel> bobstro: no, i know the filesystem's integrity is fine.
[08:45] <unix_infidel> heh, otherwise i'd run fsck :P
[08:46] <unix_infidel> i'm talking about if there's anyway to scan for file integrity. which is sorta asinine because there's no way to do that based just on extension.
[08:47] <bobstro> unix_infidel:  well, there are integrity checkers that do a checksum on files, then you periodically compare against that. or are you out to verify that the filestructure itself is intact? "integrity" can mean many things.
[08:48] <bobstro> unix_infidel:  what sort of files are they?
[08:48] <unix_infidel> *shrug* i suppose you are right, i think my HD just got exposed to a magnet...
[08:48] <unix_infidel> everything works and all my critical files seem to be working.
[08:48] <unix_infidel> i do regular backups so its not a big deal...its just a pain to wait 15minutes for everything to untar off the backup server :P
[08:49] <bobstro> unix_infidel:  ahm. a badblocks check might be in order
[08:49] <deborah> hi
[08:49] <unix_infidel> bobstro: thanks.
[08:49] <Melchiorre> hi deborah
[08:49] <bobstro> hello
[08:49] <unix_infidel> ahhhh, its a girl!
[08:49] <bobstro> world
[08:49] <bobstro> no, a name. that's all we know for sure. :)
[08:49] <Melchiorre> lol
[08:49] <deborah> afcorse i'm a girl
[08:50] <Melchiorre> =-O
[08:50] <bobstro> ssh. don't let on.
[08:50] <unix_infidel> probably not from the US from the grammar skillz
[08:50] <unix_infidel> :P
[08:50] <bobstro> sheesh
[08:50] <unix_infidel> Song of the Evening: The Avalanches - Frontier Psychiatry
[08:50] <deborah> isn't it okeej to be a girl who loves linux...By the way i'm from the netherlands
[08:50] <bobstro> actually, bad grammer is a tell-tale sign you're talking to a yank.
[08:51] <bobstro> grammar even.
[08:51] <unix_infidel> :)
[08:51] <Melchiorre> bobstro: was just about to say that ;)
[08:51] <bobstro> deborah:  yes. it's fine.
[08:51] <Melchiorre> deborah: girls that like Linux rock! :)
[08:51] <bobstro> unix_infidel:  why are you telling us about music?
[08:51] <deborah> And I'm a child
[08:51] <bobstro> oh boy
[08:51] <Melchiorre> aren't we all at heart?
[08:52] <deborah> so that's why i've got a bad grammar
[08:52] <deborah> sorry
[08:52] <bobstro> deborah:  you're fine. it's the reaction of others we need to worry about. :)
[08:52] <deborah> ok thnx
[08:52] <Hobbsee> deborah: hey girl! you're not alone
[08:53] <deborah> okeej!
[08:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:53] <bobstro> deborah:  your grammar is excellent by the way.
[08:53] <bobstro> Hobbsee:  well, they've never seen one, so...
[08:53] <Hobbsee> it is, wow
[08:53] <deborah> what kind of linux are you using? than you bobstro
[08:53] <bobstro> deborah:  i suspect a lot here are using kubuntu.
[08:53] <Hobbsee> bobstro: that seems to be the case, i should come out of hiding a bit more often
[08:54] <unix_infidel> Heh, I've learned time and time again.  Its not the chromosomes that count...its what they do.
[08:54] <deborah> thank was suppost yo strand ther
[08:54] <bobstro> deborah:  what are you using?
[08:54] <antinobody> unix_infidel I think I understand what you're trying to mean.  I'm not sure it actually works as a literal metaphor, but that's ok
[08:54] <deborah> Kubuntu and debian
[08:55] <bobstro> wups. bad night on the ol' server?
[08:55] <deborah> what's that means?
[08:55] <bobstro> the server went away earlier, i think.
[08:55] <Hobbsee> bobstro: server got hacked earlier, yeah
[08:56] <bobstro> ah, i thought those messages were "unusual"
[08:56] <deborah> ???
[08:56] <unix_infidel> another quiet night on freenode.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> bobstro: yeah, rather.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> unix_infidel: probably most people havent woken up yet
[08:56] <unix_infidel> Hobbsee: its 2am here.
[08:57] <bobstro> deborah:  the irc servers were being abused.
[08:57] <deborah> 2am? it's here 9am
[08:57] <Hobbsee> oh crud
[08:57] <bobstro> argh, 3:00 AM here.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> we're in trouble again
[08:57] <antinobody> 12 AM
[08:57] <Melchiorre> Hobbsee: why's that?
[08:57] <unix_infidel> stupid west coast kids.
[08:57] <bobstro> antinobody:  i'll be in that timezone next week. :)
[08:57] <antinobody> bobstro I like it, tis a nice timezone
[08:57] <Hobbsee> Melchiorre: a staffer just got killed again
[08:58] <deborah> whitch timezone?
[08:58] <antinobody> Pacific
[08:58] <antinobody> Portland Oregon in my case
[08:58] <deborah> Europe?
[08:58] <bobstro> Hobbsee:  can we assume you don't mean that literally?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> sydney australia here
[08:58] <Hobbsee> bobstro: yeah, just from the network
[08:58] <Melchiorre> Central Australia here ;)
[08:58] <deborah> The Netherlands
[08:59] <bobstro> Beatiful Worcester, MA (US) here.
[08:59] <antinobody> tis a wide-ranging bunch here
[08:59] <bobstro> argh. beautiful even.
[08:59] <antinobody> if I say tis one more time, I'm going to lose my mind
[08:59] <bobstro> tis true
[08:59] <deborah> where are you all from?
[08:59] <unix_infidel> you know you're on IRC too late when: people from other countries are starting their day.
[09:00] <bobstro> unix_infidel:  or when you're wrapping up as your neighbors are heading to work.
[09:00] <Melchiorre> unix_infidel: wouldn't that be being on IRC at the normal time?
[09:00] <antinobody> but people from other countries are constantly starting their day...
[09:00] <unix_infidel> Melchiorre: no....on a normal night i'd just be exiting the after-party.
[09:01] <deborah> I've got to go...My mum wants me to have breakfast (horrible i hate breakfast and she knows it)
[09:01] <bobstro> well, we could be doing something productive like staring at a world-of-warcraft screen.
[09:01] <Melchiorre> haha, good work
[09:01] <unix_infidel> so i wouldnt be on irc ;P
[09:01] <unix_infidel> some people dont eat breakfast :P
[09:01] <deborah> bye
[09:01] <Melchiorre> bye deborah
[09:01] <antinobody> I love breakfast
[09:01] <bobstro> bon apetit
[09:01] <antinobody> bye deborah
[09:02] <deborah> thank you!
[09:02] <imbrandon> unix_infidel, just a precaution
[09:02] <imbrandon> somethings a little fishy atm
[09:02] <bobstro> don't meddle in the affairs of wizards, mortal.
[09:03] <Hobbsee> unix_infidel: because when chanserv breaks, you cant get ops, often
[09:03] <Hobbsee> mind you, it may break again so it doesnt recognise the ops, but we'll see
[09:03] <unix_infidel> sounds about right.
[09:03] <bobstro> fasten seatbelts
[09:04] <antinobody> I don't have a seatbelt...
[09:04] <bobstro> grab something
[09:04] <Hobbsee> haha
[09:04] <Melchiorre> apt-get install seatbelt ;)
[09:04] <unix_infidel> "brace for impact"
[09:04] <unix_infidel> *crash sounds from starship*
[09:04] <imbrandon> haha
[09:04] <unix_infidel> "inertial dampeners are down sir!"
[09:04] <bobstro> airbags airbags
[09:05] <antinobody> Melchiorre nicely done
[09:06] <antinobody> but I don't think seatbelt's in the edgy repos yet
[09:06] <Melchiorre> antinobody: cheers :)
[09:07] <lowtech> if i run the nvidia glx drivers and change kernels, what will i need to do?
[09:07] <macd> oh fun!
[09:07] <macd> wrong chan...
[09:08] <bobstro> lowtech:  nothing is suspect. i've udpated kernels a couple of times. or are you compiling your own?
[09:08] <lowtech> no, changing to the 686 smp
[09:08] <bobstro> lowtech:  ah, not so sure about that. i don't smp lately.
[09:09] <unix_infidel> lowtech: you shouldnt need to do anything really.
[09:09] <unix_infidel> lowtech: keep in mind though some software doesnt play well with SMP
[09:09] <unix_infidel> eg Ndiswrapper.  but ubuntu should update your grub config for you automatically but it'll delete all your kernel boot params.
[09:09] <lowtech> oh, thought the nvidia would need a reinstall or something
[09:10] <unix_infidel> lowtech: why would you think that....this isnt mandriva :P
[09:10] <lowtech> lol, thats exactly why
[09:10] <unix_infidel> cheers, gonna go actually be productive at 2am :)
[09:10] <bobstro> showoff
[09:11] <unix_infidel> 2am on a saturday night and i'm being productive, more like........pathetic :P
[09:15] <tawedog> yo i can't get no sound on my dvb or dvds in kaffeine, what've gotta fix?
[09:16] <lowtech> your grammar? heh
[09:34] <gupta> Which is  the default theme in kubuntu? I changed mine ,and now can't find the original one :/
[09:36] <Melchiorre> gupta: which theme do you mean? the colour scheme, style, or window decorations?
[09:37] <gupta> the one that defiens the top right corner buttons
[09:38] <gupta> the minimize and close buttons i.e
[09:38] <Melchiorre> that's the 'window decorations' and in Dapper the default is 'Crystal'
[09:38] <Melchiorre> (I think)
[09:38] <gupta> Thanks!
[09:38] <Melchiorre> np
[09:39] <gupta> Yup thats it!
[10:07] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:08] <nrdb> Hi I have just upgraded to dapper and I can't get xine to play .avi files I get sound but no picture.
[10:10] <Melchiorre> Do you have the win32 codecs installed?
[10:12] <Melchiorre> or perhaps I should say, does it work in other media players?
[10:12] <nrdb> Melchiorre: I don't think so, in adept 'win32' is only finding 'mingw32' I don't think this is it.
[10:13] <nrdb> Melchiorre: I have both universe and multiverse repositories enabled.
[10:13] <Melchiorre> nrdb: the package is called 'w32codecs', not sure what repo it's in
[10:14] <jpatrick> it isn't in ubuntu
[10:14] <lowtech> w32codecs
[10:14] <nrdb> nothing comes up under 'codecs'
[10:15] <Melchiorre> http://Ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-Ubuntu/
[10:15] <Melchiorre> see if that helps
[10:16] <lowtech> i found it in my package so your sources may not be complete or something
[10:16] <lowtech> package search
[10:16] <jpatrick> lowtech: it's been taken out of Ubuntu
[10:16] <Melchiorre> lowtech: do you have repos other than the default, like seveas's?
[10:19] <nrdb> Melchiorre: it says to use "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" is this ok for dapper?
[10:19] <Melchiorre> erm
[10:19] <lowtech> i don't remember where i got my source list, was too long ago to still be in my browser
[10:21] <Melchiorre> nrdb: use the seveas repositories instead  'deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/ dapper-seveas extras'
[10:21] <Melchiorre> same package name (w32codecs)
[10:29] <nrdb> Melchiorre: I get a "GPG error: http://users.lichtsnel.nl dapper-seveas"
[10:29] <word> nrdb: Are you looking for w32codecs?
[10:30] <nrdb> word: yes
[10:30] <Seveas> nrdb, wget http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[10:30] <word> do you have dapper?
[10:30] <nrdb> word: yes
[10:30] <word> just open up adept go to file > manage repositories and add the words "multiverse universe" to the end of the lines that aren't greyed out
[10:31] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:31] <Seveas> word, w32codecs aren't in Ubuntu and never will be
[10:31] <nrdb> word: I have they aren't there.
[10:31] <Melchiorre> slow-motion: g'day buddy
[10:32] <slow-motion> hi Melchiorre
[10:32] <tinklepants> this is a nice channel
[10:32] <word> must've gotten it somewhere else then...there was probably a dl link where i found it..
[10:34] <nrdb> Seveas: download w32codes now :)
[10:38] <Melchiorre> Does anyone know of a good video editor for Linux? like the equivalent of Adobe Premiere, not just a video importer?
[10:39] <word> Melchiorre: A quick google search produced this - http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[10:41] <Melchiorre> thanks
[10:43] <word> i'm compiling it right now to see how it is because i'm interested as well
[10:45] <nrdb> Seveas: I installed the w32codes do I need to reset etc. for them to work?
[10:45] <Seveas> no
[10:45] <word> nrdb: Almost never a reason to reset in linux
[10:46] <nrdb> Seveas: I thought so, xine still isn't giving me a picture, i am getting sound though
[10:46] <word> try running it in command line and see if you get an error
[10:47] <nrdb> word: no.
[10:48] <nrdb> Seveas: word: xine does work from a DVD.
[10:49] <Seveas> nrdb, you might need libdvdcss2
[10:51] <farous> anyone know of  Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097
[10:53] <nrdb> Seveas: I have libdvdcss2 installed.
[10:54] <farous> nrdb: did you enable dma on the disk
[10:54] <farous> disk-drive i ment still waking up :)
[10:57] <nrdb> farous: Seveas: I have a dialog saying "unsupported codec: Video Codec: ISO-MPEG4/OpenDivx(FMP4)"
[11:01] <word> Melchiorre_away: Ah, when you're back i found a video edtting app more similar to adobe premiere - http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[11:03] <slow-motion> bbl
[11:05] <pickledbushman> is it possible to mount a ftp account as a share? i want to use the weather widget, to upload stats to my website automaticaly
[11:27] <nrdb> can anyone give me an idea why mpg321 can play a .mp3 file but nothing else will?
[11:31] <Riddell> pipitas: yes
[11:31] <farous> tell nrdb about restricted formats
[11:35] <word> !RestrictedFormats
[11:35] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:35] <word> go to that link on the top
[11:37] <linuxbambi> !screensaver
[11:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about screensaver
[11:37] <Steven_M> hi all
[11:37] <tvindkind> Hi
[11:38] <billdakill> hello,i got a problem with logging into kubuntu,can someone help me what to do
[11:38] <word> billdakill: Whats wrong with it?
[11:38] <tvindkind> You mean logging on with KDM or logging on in general?
[11:39] <Steven_M> is there anyway of installing gnome-control-center without the rest of gnome?
[11:39] <billdakill> well its sudenly crashed then i restart it it came to session menu and when i type password
[11:39] <billdakill> its just black screen
[11:39] <billdakill> then it send me back to session menu
[11:40] <ninHer> hi all
[11:40] <billdakill> all i can do is to log in console mode
[11:41] <tempest> Anyone here know how to install kubuntu on an old iMac?
[11:42] <cox377> does anyone know what the internet explorer pluggin is called for FF that alows u views pages that require IE?
[11:43] <mth`MAW> Hi there any body who has kino installed on dapper?
[11:49] <slow-motion> re
[11:50] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon everyone!
[11:59] <crazy_penguin> |lostbyte|: hi! here?
[11:59] <ajayc> hi guys
[11:59] <ajayc> which is better kubuntu or ubutnu and which is faster?
[11:59] <ru> kubuntu is more powerful
[11:59] <ru> gnome is cleaner and zippier I guess
[11:59] <ajayc> ru, how?
[12:00] <ru> kubuntu, runs KDE which is better in my opinion
[12:00] <ajayc> ru, in wht sense is it powerful?
[12:00] <ru> more features, better apps etc...
[12:00] <ru> http://www.google.co.za/search?q=kde+vs+gnome
[12:00] <ru> check that link
[12:00] <ajayc> speed?
[12:01] <ru> I dunno, they both pretty zippy but I would prolly say gnome
[12:08] <stamen> hi
[12:08] <stamen> tell me how to dismount a network drive
[12:09] <stamen> not nfs
[12:09] <stamen> its a samba drive
[12:13] <yango> hi, how do I tell linux that the hardware clock is local time and not UTC?
[12:16] <psb154> yango are you using kde
[12:16] <yango> psb154: yes
[12:17] <psb154> yango right click the clock, select timezone tab.
[12:17] <psb154> yango at the bottom there is a UTC checkbox that can be checked and unchecked
[12:18] <tsdgeos> psb154: can i have a screenshot? i don't seem to be able of finding it netiher :D
[12:18] <yango> but that is to set your local time to UTC, not to tell that the HW clock is local time
[12:21] <psb154> yango try: man hwclock
[12:23] <ChristmasCpp> can somebody tell me please where is the option not to automatic save and load a session when kde starts?
[12:25] <tsdgeos> ChristmasCpp: yes there is
[12:26] <tsdgeos> ChristmasCpp: kcontrol -> kde components -> session manager
[12:26] <cox377> does anyuone here use Azureus?
[12:27] <gourdin> anyone here using compiz/xgl on a intel 950 chipset ? (i945 vid card)
[12:29] <Style_CHM_> I had a look at compiz/xgl on my ati x1400 - its still too young to bother with I reckon
[12:32] <ChristmasCpp> thanks so much tsdgeos
[12:33] <crazy_penguin> |lostbyte|: here?
[12:34] <cox377> basically, i have azurues installed, and when i minimize it it just shows as a white box
[12:35] <cox377> anyone got any ideas?
[12:35] <tempest> what ver of java you using
[12:35] <cox377> Umm
[12:35] <cox377> i only installed it about a week ago so i'm assuming it's new
[12:35] <tempest> try using the latest ver of sun java
[12:36] <cox377> when  it goes to system tray
[12:36] <tempest> if you haven't changed it your using the default ver that comes with your distro
[12:36] <tempest> go to java.com, download and install sun java
[12:36] <cox377> is there a command to check version?
[12:36] <arafat> cox377: java -version
[12:36] <cox377> cheerts
[12:36] <arafat> cox377: java 1.5 is also in the repos!
[12:37] <cox377> i have 1.5.0.06
[12:37] <tempest> hmm - that should work
[12:37] <cox377> tried upgrading and it says it's the newest version
[12:37] <farous> cox377: sudo update-alternatives --config java. to see what java are installed which one you are using and to choose the one you need
[12:37] <cox377> dont know why i'm getting this white box
[12:38] <tommy> did you install azureus from the repository?
[12:38] <cox377> ithink so tommy
[12:38] <cox377> yeh 1.4 is selected and not 1.5, let me change and restart azureus
[12:39] <tommy> it doesn't work...you have to download from the dite
[12:39] <tommy> site
[12:39] <cox377> azureus is working just fine as a client, it just shows up as a white box in the system tray when minimized
[12:39] <tommy> ah ok
[12:40] <tommy> you can try to download from the site...icon is ok for me
[12:40] <cox377> i;'ve just run update-alternatives --config java. again and there is a + by 1.4 and a * by 1.5
[12:40] <cox377> strange
[12:41] <tempest> when you click on the tray does it come back up, is the whole issue the icon in the tray?
[12:41] <tempest> that may be a prob with your panel or your display settings
[12:41] <farous> cox377: you write the number of the java you need
[12:41] <cox377> yeh, the button works in terms of fuctionality
[12:42] <tempest> try changing your panel settings
[12:42] <cox377> farous: i did do, i changed it to 3 but it's still being odd
[12:42] <deborah> hi
[12:42] <cox377> how do i do that tempest?
[12:42] <tommy> try http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[12:42] <tempest> right-click on panel, panel settings
[12:42] <deborah> hi
[12:42] <farous> cox377: how did you install java i know 1.5.06 is not in the repos not last ime i checked
[12:42] <tempest> panel menu rather
[12:42] <tempest> then settings
[12:42] <farous> cox377: did you use sudo also?
[12:43] <cox377> i may have manually installed it, i dont remember to tell u the truth
[12:43] <cox377> farous: i did
[12:43] <rus> is azureus any better then ktorrent?
[12:43] <deborah> do u know Final Fantsy Vll Advent Children?
[12:43] <farous> cox377: have no idea.
[12:44] <deborah> http://www.final-fantasy.it/ u really hve to check out this site!
[12:44] <arafat> farous: java 1.5.6 is in the repos!
[12:44] <farous> cox377: do you have a 64 processor
[12:44] <arafat> i installed it from there...
[12:44] <farous> arafat: did not update in a while so perhaps it is ther now
[12:44] <cox377> nah mate
[12:45] <cox377> not 64 here
[12:45] <cox377> Ok, that's not a huge issue
[12:45] <cox377> what is doing my nut
[12:45] <gemidjy> align to grid doesnt work here (kde 3.5.2)
[12:46] <thelostbyte_> Hi 1
[12:46] <cox377> is anytime click any of the arrow buttons or the del button area it decides to open konquer and then load the locate:ksnapshot
[12:46] <thelostbyte_> help..
[12:46] <cox377> i have no idea why
[12:46] <thelostbyte_> i cant access any website.. ?
[12:46] <deborah> hi
[12:46] <cox377> thelostbyte: have u installed a firewall?
[12:47] <thelostbyte_> I can ping google.com but it does'nt work in the browser.
[12:47] <tempest> disable ipv6
[12:48] <tempest> are you using firefox?
[12:48] <thelostbyte_> tempest, YEah ! also konqueror same thing..
[12:48] <thelostbyte_> ok ! i'll disable v6
[12:49] <thelostbyte_> tempest, BRB !
[12:49] <mth`MAW> Hi there anybody who know which paket I have to install, to get rid of this messgae while ./configure?!
[12:49] <mth`MAW> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[12:50] <mth`MAW> gnome-lib-data is installed
[01:06] <shredder_> Hi
[01:06] <tsdgeos> hi
[01:06] <ArmedGeek> hello
[01:08] <shredder_> Sha na na Bunqueeda Sobequan Ubuntu
[01:11] <shredder_> I'm Hans Jurkenschpenctle, From Las Vegas
[01:11] <BanskuZ> aha
[01:11] <tsdgeos> welcome Hans
[01:11] <shredder_> I am in Vegas, But I'm not Hans
[01:12] <tsdgeos> :-S!
[01:12] <mth`MAW> ?!
[01:14] <nkjoep> hi all :)
[01:14] <shredder_> Hey Hey
[01:15] <NKjoep> i got some problem with xine... mediaplayers arent working... just does telling it the position of the device..
[01:15] <NKjoep> how i can tell kde use /dev/dps1 not auto or other devs?
[01:15] <NKjoep> in system setting / audio
[01:16] <NKjoep> i wrote the right position of the device in "override device location"
[01:16] <NKjoep> but it's not working
[01:16] <NKjoep> so... any tips? :D
[01:18] <shredder_> media players?/player?
[01:19] <NKjoep> i mean global sounds :)
[01:19] <NKjoep> and of course any mediaplayer (amarok koffeine.. etcet)
[01:20] <NKjoep> skype's working... but i had to put the right device  (/dev/dsp1)
[01:20] <NKjoep> i cant explain but the sistem is trying to play with /dev/dsp
[01:20] <NKjoep> :\
[01:21] <shredder_> ok, I'm not familiar with global sounds. I would install everything that sounds like a decent media player that you have not tried yet
[01:21] <NKjoep> oh :)
[01:21] <shredder_> what motherboard r u using
[01:22] <NKjoep> sys chipset
[01:22] <NKjoep> sis
[01:23] <shredder_>  I had all kinds of problems with an elite group and linux.
[01:23] <NKjoep> motherboard ECS K7S5A con Chipset SIS 735
[01:23] <NKjoep> i had an old one elite... and was a nightmare with linux :\
[01:23] <shredder_> for sure
[01:24] <NKjoep> it's first time audio doesnt work with this sis..
[01:24] <VincentMX> How do i make GRUB boot from my USB stick?
[01:24] <shredder_> amazing how difficult and stupid
[01:24] <shredder_> try setting boot order to a usb/memory stick
[01:24] <shredder_>  if possible
[01:25] <VincentMX> wich one is my usb stick? hd3,0?
[01:26] <VincentMX> or just sda?
[01:26] <VincentMX> sd1,0?
[01:27] <TOY> HI
[01:28] <TOY> ARE UDERE
[01:28] <NKjoep> hi yes
[01:28] <VincentMX> TOY: no caps please
[01:28] <NKjoep> we are here :P
[01:29] <TOY> IDONT NO WHY UDONT WANT TO SPEAK WITH ME
[01:30] <VincentMX> TOY: stop using caps
[01:31] <TOY> SORY FOR DAT WATS YOUR NAME
[01:31] <VincentMX> Vincent de Vries
[01:34] <Hobbsee> TOY: what help were you wanting?
[01:36] <abehi> hi room, I'm a budding kde dev just got thru installing kubuntu, I find it has neither gcc nor rpm installer, and I need to install my 'cable net' software, help!!!
[01:38] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[01:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[01:38] <Hobbsee> abehi: ^
[01:38] <Hobbsee> abehi: install build-essentials
[01:39] <abehi> I'm new to debian, am frm gentoo and I'm absolutely clueless, can I download software from windows, and then ask the package manager to install it?
[01:40] <abehi> thx ubotu, reading up on that, my prob is I cannot connect to internet, as the software to connect is in source code or rpm and kubuntu has neither
[01:40] <jme__> abehi: no, you can't. even on gentoo :)
[01:40] <Hobbsee> abehi: it's on the install cd - just run "sudo apt-get install build-essentials" with the cd in the drive
[01:41] <jme__> abehi: you are here connecting irc thru internet, what do you mean by 'cannot connect to internet' ?
[01:41] <abehi> here in India, you have 'cable net' you are connected to the lan but need an application to get thru, so essentially I cannot apt-get anything!
[01:42] <jme__> abehi: about running window programm on linux, there are no simple way. but some possibility exist to run window under linux, non trivial to use/install tho. you may look at qemu, xen or wine
[01:43] <abehi> http://www.elitecore.com/24online.htm
[01:43] <abehi> nope jme_ you have a linux port of that software, it is in rpm or source code, but there is no way the default kubuntu will let me install it
[01:44] <abehi> can I just download gcc on windows and then install it in kubuntu?
[01:44] <jme__> ah ok
[01:44] <jme__> i get it :)
[01:44] <nat> how do i make a thing that makes me op when i join the room
[01:44] <jme__> you meant downloading rpm on window and then installing rpm on linux
[01:44] <abattoir_> abehi: you can potentially use alien to convert the rpm to deb depending on the rpm
[01:44] <abehi> yes, that or gcc!
[01:45] <jme__> abehi: yep you can do that. it make the process much longer tho
[01:45] <VincentMX> i can't find my usb stick anymore in /dev
[01:45] <abehi> hmm I can try that... its just a small prob, I just hope it doesn't have dependencies!
[01:45] <abehi> thx a ton!
[01:46] <jme__> abehi: about your connection to internet, if you could do a vpn to have a 'real' connection, it would make your life much easier
[01:46] <abattoir_> abehi: build-essential is a meta package, it depends on other packages which you have to download too
[01:46] <abattoir_> abehi: alien too would have dependencies that you should manually download
[01:46] <jme__> abehi: ubuntu kinda assume to be assumed to be connected to the internet. not required tho
[01:46] <abehi> I think, I might find Suse a better developer environment, I simply like my kubuntu!
[01:46] <abehi> if only I could connect to the net!
[01:47] <jme__> suse is more 'standalone' aka being able to run without internet
[01:47] <abattoir_> abehi: where is the rpm? can you give me a link?
[01:47] <abehi> sure
[01:47] <abattoir_> abehi: and are you running dapper?
[01:48] <abehi> heres the link http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linc/linc-1.0-1.i386.rpm
[01:48] <alllllllhelo> test
[01:48] <Hobbsee> nat: you have to be on the access list for that.
[01:48] <abehi> yes, Im running dapper, the most current kubuntu(?!)
[01:49] <abehi> just finished the installation, I really hope I can get this fixed!
[01:50] <abattoir> abehi: i might be able to generate a .deb for you from the .rpm, give me a sec to check it out.
[01:51] <abehi> sure abattoir, I'll wait up
[01:59] <raito> There was this samba config program, it started with kcm, what was it again?
[02:00] <uniq> raito: kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[02:01] <raito> uniq, thanks
[02:01] <raito> uniq: wait there was another one that could set up what files you want to share
[02:01] <uniq> kcmshell fileshare
[02:02] <abattoir_> abehi: how can i send you the file? email?
[02:03] <abehi> sure
[02:03] <abehi> mailme at abhijeetsaran@gmail.com
[02:03] <abattoir_> address?
[02:03] <abehi> thx again abattoir
[02:04] <IvaN^89^Ue> hi
[02:04] <Lacerta> yo, i installed opera browser but i'd rather like to launch it with the catapult. how do i do that?
[02:05] <abattoir_> abehi: sent. It should work, look at the mail for instructions to install, if you already dont know.
[02:06] <abehi> thx again, and yup, I didn't already know it ;-)
[02:06] <abehi> will reboot now, ciaou!
[02:06] <uniq> lacerta: should just work. I can start opera from katapult just fine.
[02:06] <raito> !samba
[02:06] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:06] <Lacerta> uniq: the opera didn't appear on the K-panel or whatever and i cannot launch it with catapult
[02:07] <Lacerta> perhaps i'll search for the bin file and make a shortcut to the desktop
[02:09] <|lostbyte|> help !
[02:09] <|lostbyte|> I cant access any pages on the internet ?
[02:09] <|lostbyte|> i can ping google.com but it displays time out in the browser..
[02:11] <jme__> lostbyte seems like a http proxy issue
[02:11] <|lostbyte|> i dont have any proxy loaded..
[02:11] <|lostbyte|> happens in konqueror and firefox.
[02:12] <jme__> well try other site
[02:12] <jme__> then try telnet google.com 80 to see if it react the same way
[02:12] <uniq> lacerta: try to run 'kbuildsycoca' in konsole. and then try katapult.
[02:13] <|lostbyte|> jme__, My isp's website only loads..
[02:13] <uniq> |lostbyte|: sounds like a ISP prolbem.
[02:13] <Lacerta> uniq: kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[02:13] <jme__> lostbyte so it really like a http proxy issue :)
[02:13] <VincentMX> i can't open my usb stick (dev/sda) in fdisk, cfdisk or gparted.
[02:14] <jme__> lostbyte, ask you isp the http proxy you have to use
[02:15] <|lostbyte|> uniq, SO what, i'll have to wait and see..
[02:16] <uniq> |lostbyte|: wait and see, or contact your ISP ask what's going on. Most ISPs have transparent http proxies somewhere in their system. If it fails you will get this kind of situation.
[02:16] <|lostbyte|> oh !
[02:16] <|lostbyte|> uniq, SO i need their proxy ip and port.. alright..
[02:16] <|lostbyte|> thanks for the info..
[02:17] <jme__> hehe :)
[02:17] <jme__> uniq got something i dont :)
[02:18] <jme__> i told the same thing but me, it didnt go thru :)
[02:18] <uniq> |lostbyte|: the point with transparent proxies is that you don't need to do anything. You are forced to use it anyway. All http traffic is forced through it. So your isp will just have to fix the problem. You don't have to do anything, except maybe contact them and tell them they have a problem :)
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> I am just nervious, if it not only me..
[02:20] <|lostbyte|> BRB
[02:21] <Kioud> Salut :)
[02:22] <devendra_l> hi, I cannot get power control for my monitor working...
[02:23] <devendra_l> earlier there were 3 slider, stand-by, suspend, turn off I think.... now there is a single option in power control
[02:33] <Iam> hello there
[02:33] <Iam> can u hear me?
[02:33] <Iam> can u hear me now?
[02:33] <Iam> can u hear me now?
[02:33] <Hobbsee> Iam: yep
[02:34] <Iam> good my sprint mobility is working
[02:34] <gupta> Any keyboard macro app for X? To send in a series of keystrokes?
[02:37] <gemidjy> repository for kaffeine 0.8* ?
[02:37] <Iam> macro exspress
[02:43] <whyami> what is the kde equivalent to gnome's file-roller?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> whyami: ark?
[02:45] <whyami> Hobbsee: thanks!
[02:57] <rmcdaniel> hi
[03:01] <flake> hail linux noobie here
[03:06] <flake> hi
[03:06] <gnox> hi
[03:06] <flake> i installed ubuntu + kde the other day
[03:07] <flake> seems nice so far
[03:08] <TheHighChild> Glad to hear you're likin it flake
[03:08] <DRYKISS> that took way too long to get right...
[03:08] <ajayc> guys help me decide ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:08] <TheHighChild> ajayc: Kubuntu, at least this channel will tell you that ;)
[03:08] <DRYKISS> kubuntu
[03:08] <ajayc> TheHighChild, reasons for it
[03:08] <DRYKISS> :p
[03:09] <ajayc> gimme reaons
[03:09] <flake> i would have tried kubuntu but i hit ubuntu first
[03:09] <DRYKISS> i just fancy kde over gnome
[03:09] <TheHighChild> ajayc: It's a more nimble windowing systems, I think the default and extended themes are better. Overall appearance is better
[03:09] <flake> kubunutu = kde + ubuntu right?
[03:09] <DRYKISS> yes
[03:09] <psb154> ajayc: KDE is easier to configure than Gnome in my opinion
[03:09] <TheHighChild> flake: Yes, only difference is the windowing system and extended packages
[03:10] <ajayc> and what about speed?
[03:10] <johnflux> I think the only difference is the default
[03:10] <TheHighChild> ajayc: I like the extended packages for KDE, Kate, Kalarm, Konversation, Katapult, etc. The list goes on/
[03:10] <klerfayt> does it mean that kubuntu has all ports open if there is no firewall?
[03:10] <TheHighChild> ajayc: I can't give any exact stuff but I think KDE is a tad more responsive
[03:10] <DRYKISS> i use kde for amarok
[03:10] <flake> wolf et plays much smoother on here but i still suk at it, i can run it at 1280x1024 unlike the xp
[03:10] <johnflux> klerfayt: there are no apps running that listen on a network port
[03:11] <ajayc> TheHighChild, some people say its gnome that is faste
[03:11] <ajayc> r
[03:11] <TheHighChild> flake: Nice, I love the game. What servers do you play on?
[03:11] <ajayc> wait wait
[03:11] <TheHighChild> ajayc: Like I said, it depends on what channel you are in;)
[03:11] <ajayc> i installed xubuntu
[03:11] <ajayc> i insallted et on it
[03:11] <flake> whichever i can find at the moment, but i need to figure out how to upgrade from 2.55
[03:11] <klerfayt> flake: if you want to own then use good config
[03:11] <flake> 2.60b link was broken
[03:11] <ajayc> and when i run the game the game screen is not at the centre but askew to the left
[03:11] <ajayc> any idea?
[03:11] <TheHighChild> flake: Why not download the 2.60 version?
[03:11] <ajayc> TheHighChild, ?
[03:11] <klerfayt> flake: before playing the game open the terminal and type  xset m 1 1
[03:12] <TheHighChild> ajayc: When it loads, press alt+enter
[03:12] <ajayc> someone please helpme
[03:12] <ajayc> TheHighChild, its already in fullscreen
[03:12] <NV_The_Riper> what's the problem ajayc??
[03:12] <flake> think i have to log into file planet?
[03:12] <flake> ugh
[03:12] <flake> i'm a leech
[03:12] <TheHighChild> flake: For what, you need the game?
[03:12] <ajayc> NV_The_Riper, i installed et and whn i run it the game menus the video are askew towards the left
[03:12] <johnflux> ajayc: use the controls on your monitor to shift it :P
[03:12] <ajayc> they are not in the cnetre of the screen
[03:13] <ajayc> johnflux, i gotta laptop :p
[03:13] <flake> the upgrade, or at least the full 2.60 version
[03:13] <snikker> i've got a device icon on the desktop, when i click on it, a new window is opened. is possible to open it in a current window, but in another tab?
[03:13] <TheHighChild> http://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[03:13] <johnflux> ajayc: can you change the resolution in the game
[03:13] <flake> ahh thanks
[03:13] <johnflux> ajayc: try that
[03:13] <ajayc> johnflux, alrady did
[03:14] <ajayc> but still probs
[03:14] <klerfayt> johnflux: I'm not going to pretend that I know something about network security; but I'm asking if in your opinion there is any reason to get any firewall running at all?
[03:14] <flake> how secure is linux, is it because it isn't commercial and well-known or is it really secure
[03:14] <TheHighChild> klerfayt: not really if you aren't running a server but the paranoid still do it, like me ;)
[03:14] <johnflux> klerfayt: none
[03:14] <ajayc> flake, try hacking a linux box . Thats all i gotta say
[03:15] <flake> i know, i have my system passworded - have to supply it to do anything
[03:15] <TheHighChild> flake: The nature of the linux kernel makes it a little safer. The root hierarchy and handling of permissions makes the system as a whole, much safer than most Windows.
[03:15] <johnflux> klerfayt: there's no reason to run a firewall at all unless you start installing servers
[03:15] <abattoir___> snikker: it is possible, you must specify that in konqueror
[03:15] <flake> i also have vista beta installed, they're trying to move closer to linux type security
[03:15] <klerfayt> is it possble that kubuntu slpash is "fake" or the messages are real?
[03:15] <johnflux> klerfayt: the reason you often install a firewall in windows is because it does have quite a few servers running
[03:15] <TheHighChild> flake: They are trying to make it feel like it has that secutiry.
[03:16] <DRYKISS> ajayc: that's not entirely true... there are new exploits daily, the question is more how big the chance on a hacker attack is for you, the consumer
[03:16] <johnflux> klerfayt: for network neighbourhood, and so on
[03:16] <ajayc> DRYKISS, i know but they are comparing it to windows
[03:16] <DRYKISS> k
[03:16] <ajayc> DRYKISS, as it is being 16 i can hack a linux  box ;)
[03:16] <snikker> abattoir___: ok, i'll see in the konqueror options...
[03:17] <abattoir___> snikker: Konqueror->Settings->Configure Konqueror->Web Behaviour->Tabbed Browsing->Advanced Options->Open as tab.....
[03:17] <TheHighChild> ajayc: Want my IP?
[03:17] <klerfayt> I got this weird problem that I disabled some services at boot using kcontrol but they still startaccording to kubuntu splash
[03:17] <ajayc> TheHighChild, no thankx i am on windows
[03:17] <ajayc> :D
[03:17] <ajayc> i gotta reboot into gentoo later
[03:17] <snikker> abattoir___: oh, thanks a lot :-)
[03:17] <flake> i just got a message saying saving this file as a binary will result in a corrupt file
[03:17] <TheHighChild> flake: hold on
[03:18] <DRYKISS> what kind of file
[03:18] <TheHighChild> Right click and "save as"
[03:18] <TheHighChild> http://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/
[03:18] <DRYKISS> oh
[03:18] <flake> thanks
[03:19] <flake> fast, going at 1.3Mb/s
[03:19] <DRYKISS> MiB or Mbit?
[03:19] <TheHighChild> np, when it finishes, you will nee to "cd ~/savedlocation && chmod u+x et-linux*"
[03:19] <TheHighChild> flake: Yeah, we run the best servers in the game ;)
[03:19] <flake> cool, may i have the ip
[03:20] <snikker> abattoir___: i've set as you sayd, but it don't work... maybe i must restart the kde session?
[03:20] <flake> or what server name
[03:20] <flake> i can usually find it
[03:20] <TheHighChild> flake:  All of our server IP's can be found here http://www.shitstorm.org/index.php
[03:20] <flake> thanks
[03:20] <abattoir> snikker: try closing all konqueror windows and then open, else try restarting the kde session
[03:21] <snikker> abattoir: ok, i try
[03:22] <Lacerta> my audio is playing in wrong audio card. how do i change that?
[03:22] <ajayc> can someone tell me a really cool link about kubuntu
[03:22] <ajayc> may be unofficial
[03:22] <DRYKISS> change the default mixer
[03:22] <flake> is there an easy way to get mp3 going
[03:23] <snikker> abattoir: now i try to restart kde...
[03:23] <DRYKISS> yes with Automatix
[03:23] <Lacerta> ah
[03:23] <Lacerta> i think i found it
[03:23] <DRYKISS> k
[03:25] <DRYKISS> flake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190025
[03:25] <DRYKISS> tutorial for Automatix
[03:26] <flake> thanks again
[03:27] <TheHighChild> flake: Be careful with Automatix, it's a great utility BUT it can do damage if you don't know what you're doing.
[03:27] <DRYKISS> chmod 007 : licence to crash :p
[03:27] <DRYKISS> not that dangerous
[03:27] <DRYKISS> nothing has ever gone wrong with me
[03:28] <mrmist> Hi guys :)
[03:28] <DRYKISS> hi
[03:28] <DRYKISS> (just realised that came out wrong)
[03:28] <DRYKISS> i meant automatix, not chmod
[03:28] <Hobbsee> !automatix
[03:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> !easyubuntu
[03:28] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:28] <mrmist> i'm running kubuntu on a latitude, and I'd like it to recognize that I've got another screen connected to it. Any easy way to do it ?
[03:29] <klerfayt> mrmist: son't you have some "Fn" hotkeys?
[03:29] <klerfayt> mrmist: *don't
[03:30] <mrmist> klerfayt: sure... why !?
[03:30] <TheHighChild> mrmist: Well, it's possible. Just to find out how http://flickr.com/photos/mwilkie/160927853/
[03:30] <flake> is there something like the task manager i can kill a program
[03:30] <DRYKISS> ksysguard
[03:30] <DRYKISS> from the K menu
[03:30] <TheHighChild> flake > Kmenu > system > Ksysguard
[03:30] <DRYKISS> that
[03:30] <TheHighChild> flake:  Or you can type "ps aux" into the konsole
[03:31] <DRYKISS> ps aux? what does that do?
[03:31] <TheHighChild> We're quite the team DRYKISS
[03:31] <mrmist> klerfayt: thing is: The stationary screen has a complete different resolution than my CRT 21"
[03:31] <TheHighChild> DRYKISS: ps lists process, a means all, ux mean something that I don't know. lol, "man ps"
[03:31] <mrmist> er... I mean... the laptop screen's got another resolution than my desktop screen
[03:33] <snikker> it don't work
[03:33] <flake> see yall later, thank you for the help
[03:34] <DRYKISS> when i die i want AFK on my gravestone
[03:35] <klerfayt> DRYKISS: #offtopic
[03:35] <DRYKISS> sorry
[03:35] <Lacerta> alright... ahem. I seem to be having problems with changing the mixer
[03:37] <mrmist> Any way to make X react to different screens ?
[03:37] <mrmist> When connection my CRT, I want the resolution to change from the standard portable resolution
[03:38] <om_> hi i am having a bit of a problem.. im trying to mount a ntfs hdd and everytime i try to access the dir i get "you do not have permissions"
[03:38] <om_> sudo cd ~/home/ntfs doesn't work...
[03:38] <DRYKISS> access as in write or as in read?
[03:38] <om_> so i'm not sure what to do
[03:38] <om_> read/write
[03:38] <Lacerta> om_: set -o uid=<user>
[03:38] <om_> it's my backup
[03:39] <DRYKISS> with the default drivers you can only read (i think)
[03:39] <klerfayt> mrmist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[03:39] <TheHighChild> om_: "sudo chown dparker /media/mountpointofyourntfsdrive"
[03:39] <om_> my brother was here yesterday and he got it to work.. i just forgot how...
[03:39] <Lacerta> i understand you cannot write ntfs so easily
[03:39] <TheHighChild> om_: dparker being your username
[03:39] <om_> oh actually i just need to read i guess
[03:39] <om_> thanks thehighchild!
[03:40] <TheHighChild> om_: np, should work for you.
[03:42] <TheHighChild> Lacerta: NTFS write support still has bugs. It's possible but slow for some users and can cause minor curruption of the drive
[03:42] <mrmist> klerfayt: hmm... but I'm using two settings: I don't want the drivers to use resources on two screens, when I've disconnected the CRT again..
[03:43] <om_> TheHighChild: i stil get permission denied for some reason.. after entering the command you gave, i got: "changing ownership of `/media/ntfs': Read-only file system"
[03:43] <klerfayt> mrmist: what happens if you just plug crt in?
[03:43] <om_> so it seemed to work.. until i did: cd /media/ntfs
[03:44] <Lacerta> TheHighChild: that chown didn't do anything for me. what does it do?
[03:44] <klerfayt> mrmist: what card you got?
[03:44] <TheHighChild> om_: try this "sudo umount /media/ntfs && sudo chown <username> /media/ntfs"
[03:44] <TheHighChild> om_: Then mount it again with "sudo mount ntfs"
[03:44] <mrmist> klerfayt: The main display becomes my CRT, which is fine, really. It's just that the portable's resolution is widescreen, and my CRT is not
[03:45] <TheHighChild> Lacerta: It makes sure your user can access the mounted location of the drive
[03:45] <Tommy2k4> is there any other mp3 players that can tell kopete what im listening to
[03:45] <TheHighChild> Lacerta: You can put ownership into the /etc/fstab but I am not trying to go to those depths right now
[03:45] <Tommy2k4> amarok is really unstable
[03:45] <klerfayt> mrmist: I have to be honest with you - I have never tried dualscreen. But my guess is that you need to edit xorg.conf
[03:45] <om_> still all seemed to work, but permission denied when trying to read dir...
[03:46] <Raito> Is there any touchpad app for Kubuntu? Something that can customise the touchpad such as adding a scroll wheel to the side etc?
[03:46] <om_> with konquorer i get "locked folder"
[03:46] <klerfayt> anyone knows if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can do dualscreen setup for you?
[03:47] <TheHighChild> om_: Can you pastebin your /etc/fstab
[03:47] <Lacerta> om_: i put the "-o uid=simo" when i was mounting. that way i got no locked folder
[03:48] <om_> ok lacerta, let me try
[03:49] <deborah> hi
[03:49] <contact> mm
[03:49] <Lacerta> om_: that's probably something you can do in fstab also. i'm not sure
[03:49] <deborah> hello
[03:49] <DRY|KISS> hi
[03:50] <contact> I have a ma111...dont work with usb hub...?
[03:50] <vlad_> what most i do to have 3d acceleration ?
[03:50] <Lacerta> i tried to change the mixer in the KMix settings but the sound is still playing in the wrong card
[03:50] <deborah> where are u from? I'm from the netherlands (14Year)
[03:51] <DRY|KISS> deborah: #offtopic
[03:51] <IgKh> There is no #offtopic channel
[03:51] <TheHighChild> #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <DRY|KISS> it was just as a figure of speach
[03:51] <deborah> do u know Final Fantasy?
[03:52] <DRY|KISS> AAGH: you = not u
[03:52] <deborah> do u know Final Fantasy?
[03:53] <deborah> do you know Final Fantasy?
[03:53] <Lacerta> --> #kubuntu-final-fantasy
[03:53] <TheHighChild> LOL
[03:53] <eitch0000> can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> eitch0000: install it via apt-get?
[03:54] <klerfayt> how is kubuntu related to 14year old girls that know final fantasy?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> deborah: join #kubuntu-offtopic for that please
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> is there any other mp3 players that can tell kopete what im listening to
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> amarok is really unstable
[03:54] <DRY|KISS> i would say so
[03:54] <DRY|KISS> amarok is not unstable
[03:54] <DRY|KISS> maybe on your conputer
[03:54] <Lacerta> my amarok crashes when i play wav-files
[03:55] <Lacerta> but then i cannot play anynthing with it :)
[03:55] <deborah> I know Final Fantasy a long time, I love moovies are made with Linux...
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Lacerta: w32codecs are needed in armaok iirc
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> mine closes instantly when i try to play wma files (they played fine before i upgraded to 1.4)
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: can you please?
[03:55] <DRY|KISS> i can't judge about that
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> also locks up at other times for no reason
[03:55] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: hmm?
[03:55] <DRY|KISS> i don't play wave files
[03:55] <gnomefreak> deborah: should be in -offtopic with FF stuff :(
[03:55] <Lacerta> is there some cryptic shell command that changes the current mixer?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> she seems to ignore the request :(
[03:56] <gnomefreak> DRY|KISS: yes tehre are
[03:56] <DRY|KISS> why don't they show up?
[03:56] <deborah> sorry
[03:56] <eitch0000> can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> DRY|KISS: they show when needed
[03:56] <DRY|KISS> oh
[03:57] <zorglu1> deborah: be real real sorry, this is real serious stuff
[03:57] <DRY|KISS> lol
[03:57] <zorglu1> being offtopic is awfully offending
[03:57] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: there are certainly ops around
[03:57] <zorglu1> like at least 3 time
[03:57] <DRY|KISS> ok
[03:57] <zorglu1> damn never you will be forgiven
[03:57] <Hobbsee> eitch0000: install it via apt-get
[03:57] <Hobbsee> zorglu1: quit it.
[03:57] <zorglu1> Hobbsee: ?
[03:58] <DRY|KISS> stop bashing/flaming
[03:58] <Hobbsee> nicely said.
[03:58] <zorglu1> well i like ubuntu
[03:58] <zorglu1> so i bashing people when they play too strict enforcem,ent of rules
[03:58] <zorglu1> hehe
[03:58] <gnomefreak> zorglu1: those type of comments are uncalled for and generally taken offisive
[03:59] <zorglu1> so yeah i like to ridiculize those kind of behviour :)
[03:59] <Hobbsee> zorglu1: i'd be fairly sure that that's prohibited by the code of conduct
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hi OdyX
[03:59] <eitch0000> Hobbsee: well... I need a new version, which I can compile against my new compiled kernel. the wiki on ubuntu,com has an article on how to compile a new kernel, but not how to make linux-restricted-modules work with the new kernel
[03:59] <zorglu1> so i did riduculize this offtopic stufff and this will to kick :)
[03:59] <OdyX> yop Hobbsee
[04:00] <zorglu1> Hobbsee: oh im sure too :) this is even in the meaning of 'ubuntu' :)
[04:00] <ajayc> can someone tell me a really cool link about kubuntu
[04:00] <ajayc> may be unofficial
[04:00] <zorglu1> Hobbsee: be nice to people :)
[04:00] <Hobbsee> eitch0000: ah ok, if it's a compiled one, i dont know...but the restricted modules for the kernels in apt-get have the associated restricted modules
[04:00] <Hobbsee> zorglu1: sure.
[04:00] <zorglu1> Hobbsee: aka 'dont kick somebody just because he is talking 3 time about final fantazy' :)
[04:00] <eitch0000> Hobbsee: yep, I know... oh well have to search on...
[04:00] <ajayc> !intel
[04:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about intel
[04:00] <ajayc> !fool
[04:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about fool
[04:00] <Hobbsee> zorglu1: a)  deborah is female, iirc, and b) did you see me kick them?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> zorglu1: noone kicked her
[04:01] <zorglu1> Hobbsee: well i did see a threat of it :)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> ajayc: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[04:01] <DRY|KISS> !apt-get moo
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-get moo
[04:01] <ajayc> ok Hobbsee
[04:01] <DRY|KISS> damn
[04:01] <deborah> i wasn't kicked at all!
[04:01] <DRY|KISS> !moo
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about moo
[04:01] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[04:01] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[04:02] <zorglu1> (15:56:36) gnomefreak: Hobbsee: can you please?
[04:03] <zorglu1> (15:57:08) gnomefreak: deborah: should be in -offtopic with FF stuff :(
[04:03] <zorglu1> (15:57:32) gnomefreak: she seems to ignore the request :(
[04:03] <gnomefreak> zorglu1: i didnt ask her to kick her
[04:03] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: thinking i am
[04:03] <gnomefreak> yep i am
[04:03] <uniq> that's because you're a gnomefreak :)
[04:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:03] <zorglu1> oh so i completly misunstoog the whole thing ?
[04:04] <DRY|KISS> well i can't complain, at least she wasn't like: "OMG Do U KnO\/\/ F1|\|47 F4NT45Y!!!!!one11!!!eleven"
[04:04] <gnomefreak> only 2 channels im not lol
[04:04] <Hobbsee> well, there you go
[04:04] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: heh.  and the dev ones, presumably.
[04:04] <Raito> How come SuperTux music (and sound) is so loud? And how come it is completely unafected no matter how much I move the volume down?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> zorglu1: i believe so
[04:04] <gnomefreak> true
[04:04] <zorglu1> if so, paint me sorry. i just wanted to make sure that people did stay nice with each other
[04:04] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: dont even *think* about talking like that, or i'll burn your eyes out with my myspace.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:05] <DRY|KISS> no sir
[04:05] <DRY|KISS> i wouldn't dar
[04:05] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:05] <DRY|KISS> *dare
[04:06] <Lacerta> argh. what's with the mixer? do i have to reboot or something?
[04:09] <DRY|KISS> http://www.bash.org/?663794 <-- would keep watching this one
[04:09] <DRY|KISS> that's a quote from this channel
[04:09] <DRY|KISS> it's still pending
[04:11] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: what's the quote?
 well i can't complain, at least she wasn't like: "OMG Do U KnO\/\/ F1|\|47 F4NT45Y!!!!!one11!!!eleven"
 DRY|KISS: dont even *think* about talking like that, or i'll burn your eyes out with my myspace.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> hahaha
[04:12] <uniq> hey, go to -offtopic with that quote stuff :)
[04:12] <DRY|KISS> *sigh*
[04:12] <uniq> heh.. dinner. later. :)
[04:14] <BASEman> trying to install kubuntu. have to resize an ntfs partition. using alternate install CD. automatic partionning fails. manually selecting "resize..." asks me if I want to perform those undoable changes but I haven't specified a size yet. what's wrong?
[04:14] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: if that does get approved, do tell, so i can add it?
[04:14] <DRY|KISS> i'll let you know
[04:16] <Paradosso> anybody happens to know where I can find an amarok 1.4.1beta deb package?
[04:17] <Hobbsee> Paradosso: kubuntu.org i think
[04:17] <Hobbsee> or is it not there yet?
[04:17] <chakie> heh, managing printers through the localhost:631 cups interface gives me an error message that says: {error}
[04:17] <chakie> why can't printing work as well as it does under windows
[04:18] <chakie> man, the web interface is so broken in kubuntu it's not even funny
[04:19] <VieLGus-KuTas> web is pretty good
[04:19] <VieLGus-KuTas> for linux
[04:19] <VieLGus-KuTas> printing work for me too
[04:19] <VieLGus-KuTas> s
[04:20] <VieLGus-KuTas> almost as well as windows
[04:20] <VieLGus-KuTas> windows had a better driver of course
[04:20] <chakie> i can't even check the printers using localhost:631
[04:20] <DRY|KISS> !windows
[04:20] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:21] <DRY|KISS> lol
[04:21] <chakie> just "Bad request" and "Unauthorized"
[04:21] <deborah> windows  sucks... Billl gates also...
[04:21] <VieLGus-KuTas> Paradosso: i just installed 141 today
[04:22] <VieLGus-KuTas> Paradosso: i dont think there are debs for it yet, i compiled everything from source
[04:22] <Hobbsee> VieLGus-KuTas: there are
[04:22] <Hobbsee> imbrandon_: has some, too
[04:22] <VieLGus-KuTas> Hobbsee: ive seen 140  debs but not 141
[04:22] <Hobbsee> see http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/pubkey.html
[04:22] <DRY|KISS> the best linux command: apt-get moo
[04:22] <Hobbsee> VieLGus-KuTas: yeah, they're not on kubuntu.org yet
[04:23] <DRY|KISS> yay finally
[04:24] <VieLGus-KuTas> Paradosso: well , there u go , get the debs from those repos
[04:24] <DRY|KISS> i have an idea when someone enters
[04:24] <DRY|KISS> wait for it
[04:25] <DRY|KISS> and it discharged right into my face
[04:25] <DRY|KISS> damn, didn't work :'(
[04:26] <VieLGus-KuTas> have u been smoking the green stuff lately?
[04:26] <DRY|KISS> maybe... i just noticed i somehow installed emacs
[04:26] <DRY|KISS> i must have been very drunk
[04:31] <imachine> hi.
[04:31] <imachine> anyone tried compiz with kde ?
[04:32] <imachine> there seems to be some faq on ubuntu forums, but it includes gconf and gnome-window-manager.
[04:32] <imachine> which is just plain wrong imho ;p
[04:33] <imachine> i tried fiddling with it, using normal repos (not the ones mentioned in the faq, the universe from dapper also includes compiz-kde and xserver-xgl) got it to work half-way, that is, the windows seem to loose their decorations.
[04:33] <imachine> and the taskbars dont work right.
[04:33] <imachine> compiz works tho.
[04:33] <imachine> any suggestions?
[04:35] <DRY|KISS> compiz on linux is like luna on windows XP imho
[04:39] <DRY|KISS> how do i register my nickname on freenode?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> !register
[04:39] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:39] <DRY|KISS> thanks
[04:40] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:43] <imachine> DRYKISS, it works tho
[04:43] <imachine> i dont know what luna is
[04:43] <DRYKISS>  /msg nickserv link DRY|KISS 11235813louisa!
[04:43] <DRYKISS> oops
[04:43] <DRYKISS> nobody saw that
[04:43] <imachine> good work;)
[04:43] <imachine> brb
[04:47] <DRYKISS_> ok all done
[04:48] <DRY|KISS> luna is the default blue green theme
[04:49] <Hobbsee> i think that should be changed, somehow.
[04:49] <Hobbsee> i think that should be changed, somehow.
[04:50] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: FYI - these logs are public - anyone could do what i just did
[04:50] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: it'd be an *extremely* good idea to change your password
[04:50] <Raito> How do you change the Supertux volume? It is unaffected by Kmix
[04:50] <DRY|KISS> yes
[04:50] <DRY|KISS> i will
[04:50] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: cool :)
[04:53] <DRY|KISS> how do i change my password?
[04:53] <dr_willis> passwd command
[04:53] <DRY|KISS> on irc
[04:54] <dr_willis> - /msg nickserv help
[04:54] <dr_willis> and see what commands it has.
[04:55] <DRY|KISS> found it
[04:55] <DRY|KISS> nickser set password <pass>
[05:01] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: so did you fix it?
[05:01] <DRY|KISS> yup
[05:01] <Hobbsee> yep
[05:01] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: FYI, if you were wondering, i ghosted you before.
[05:01] <Hobbsee> hehe useful :)
[05:02] <DRY|KISS> yay, brainiac ^^
[05:02] <DRY|KISS> (now on tv)
[05:03] <DRY|KISS> the test is: can you bake a cake while being electrocuted?
[05:03] <DRY|KISS> answer: no
[05:08] <_joel> Quick question: Does KDE have something like Gnome's Deskbar? If you don't know what Deskbar is you can see a screencast of it here: http://nigel.tao.googlepages.com/deskbar-2-14-screencast.html
[05:08] <omeow> *click*
[05:08] <omeow> Oh the search thing.
[05:08] <omeow> Hm, I dunno.
[05:08] <_joel> yea
[05:09] <_joel> deskbar is pretty neat man
[05:09] <Hobbsee> *waits for the flash to load*
[05:09] <Hobbsee> how painful
[05:09] <_joel> heh
[05:09] <omeow> What do you mean painful?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> _joel: katapult
[05:10] <Hobbsee> !katapult
[05:10] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[05:10] <Raito> How do you change the Supertux volume? It is unaffected by Kmix
[05:10] <Hobbsee> fairly close in functionality
[05:10] <Hobbsee> Raito: can you change it within supertux?
[05:10] <DRY|KISS> what is your favorite tool under linux?
[05:10] <_joel> cool, let me give it a try
[05:10] <DRY|KISS> mine is yakuake
[05:10] <Raito> Hobsee: It can only be turned on or off
[05:10] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS: xkill
[05:10] <DRY|KISS> lol
[05:10] <dr_willis> DRY|KISS,  'mc' :)
[05:11] <nixternal> DRY|KISS: i am with you...yakuake all the way
[05:11] <_joel> DRY|KISS: whats yakuake?
[05:11] <Lynoure> Does anyone else have problems with sound disappearing after a suspend?
[05:11] <DRY|KISS> a terminal quake style above your desktop
[05:11] <Hobbsee> Raito: you should be able to change it in kmix, on the PCM setting
[05:11] <DRY|KISS> if you press f12 it comes down
[05:11] <Raito> Hobbsee: No effect :/
[05:12] <omeow> Can't katapult search my bookmarks?
[05:13] <omeow> (my opera bookmarks for that matter)
[05:13] <DRY|KISS> i would search on google: "linux bookmarks manager"
[05:14] <DRY|KISS> then if you found a program name
[05:14] <robotgeek> omeow: afaik, it only does firefox and konqueror
[05:14] <DRY|KISS> try your luck on apt-get packagename
[05:14] <omeow> Surely there's a way to make it look at Opera's bookmarks. However, I can't find any menu to configure it.
[05:14] <DRY|KISS> try your luck on apt-get install packagename
[05:15] <DRY|KISS> if that doesn't work... manually compile it :p
[05:15] <DRY|KISS> got to go, BRB
[05:15] <Hobbsee> stupid thing.  grr.
[05:16] <Lynoure> Does anyone know what's causing the loss of sound when recoved from suspend and how to fix it permanently?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: probably the sound module not being reloaded after suspend?
[05:16] <uniq> lynoure: unload the driver module before suspending, and re-load it after wakeup.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> there you go
[05:17] <uniq> hobbsees suggestion is the best, there are loads of workarounds but you should file a bug as we all want everything to work out of the box without workarounds :)
[05:17] <DRY|KISS|AFK> Hobbsee: do i have to change my pass on all my linked nicks?
[05:17] <Lynoure> uniq: Jep, I was just hoping I wouldn't have to...
[05:18] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS|AFK: no
[05:18] <DRY|KISS|AFK> ok
[05:18] <Lynoure> Filed about 1o bugs so far, hoping that something would be a known problem
[05:18] <Hobbsee> DRY|KISS|AFK: yeah, it changed the p/w for all of the nicks
[05:19] <uniq> lynoure: a hint is to find a script in /etc/power/scripts.d/ and add the unload and reload of the sound module to it.
[05:19] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: there may already be a bug for it
[05:20] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: found: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/21574
[05:20] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I have nc8230 but that's close enough
[05:20] <DRY|KISS> back
[05:20] <DRY|KISS> maybe BRB was better ...
[05:22] <DRY|KISS> by the way: my nick has absolutely nothing to do with kissing
[05:22] <DRY|KISS> DRY: don't repeat yourself
[05:23] <DRY|KISS> KISS: keep it simple stupid
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: add it, looks close enough to me too
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: as in, add your soundcard module, and the stuff they ask for  - like dmesg
[05:24] <DRY|KISS> I find it gruesome that there are indeed some webservers running on windows and iis
[05:24] <DRY|KISS> windows xp running on a server is like...
[05:25] <DRY|KISS> a tightrope walker walking on barbed wire
[05:25] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: nothing interestin in dmesg :/
[05:26] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: paste it anyway - whichever files they're asking for from the other guy
[05:28] <DRY|KISS>     (__)
[05:28] <DRY|KISS>     (oo)
[05:28] <DRY|KISS>  /------\/
[05:28] <DRY|KISS>  / |  ||
[05:28] <DRY|KISS>  * /\---/\
[05:28] <DRY|KISS>   ~~ ~~
[05:28] <DRY|KISS> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[05:28] <DRY|KISS> apt-get moo :p
[05:28] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: Bit long to paste. Attach? or is there a separate designated paste bin for launchpad, too
[05:29] <DRY|KISS> just paste it
[05:29] <DRY|KISS> i like way too much info
[05:29] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: you can "cat dmesg > dmesg" and attach the file to the bug report
[05:29] <Hobbsee> long pastes are incredibly long and annoying
[05:30] <DRY|KISS> have to go eat
[05:30] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: Yep, I know, but somehow hated that interface, too :)
[05:30] <boredom> How do i change my default soundcard?
[05:31] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: And the command needs tuning :) dmesg >> dmesg,txt was my choice
[05:31] <Hobbsee> that works too
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !logs
[05:31] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:32] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: cat dmsg > dmesg    doesn't as dmesg is not a file
[05:32] <Lynoure> s/dmsg/dmesg
[05:32] <Hobbsee> oh, i thought it created it.  hmm.
[05:34] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: oh, it is a file too, but used that way usually a command :) (boy am I being unclear)
[05:34] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:34] <Hobbsee> yeah, rahter
[05:36] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[05:41] <DRY|KISS> back ^^
[05:42] <DRY|KISS> dmnit...
[05:43] <DRY|KISS> $mouse.battery.charged = false
[05:48] <DRY|KISS> silence...
[05:49] <DRY|KISS> hi
[05:49] <uniq> hi.
[05:50] <DRY|KISS> yay someone with moo in their name
[05:50] <moopere> :)
[05:50] <DRY|KISS> apt-get moo ^^
[05:50] <Moo> .
[05:50] <DRY|KISS>     (__)
[05:50] <DRY|KISS>     (oo)
[05:50] <DRY|KISS>  /------\/
[05:50] <DRY|KISS>  / |  ||
[05:50] <DRY|KISS>  * /\---/\
[05:50] <DRY|KISS>   ~~ ~~
[05:50] <DRY|KISS> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[05:50] <moopere> what is the apt-get moo easteregg?
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> aptitude -v -v -v -v -v moo
[05:51] <uniq> dry|kiss: please don't flood then channel with cows even if there is no other activity. Thanks :)
[05:51] <DRY|KISS> uniq: awwww
[05:52] <moopere> fabulous.  That would be the super cow powers that apt-get talks about
[05:52] <DRY|KISS> uniq: at least i'm not posting an ascii goatse
[05:53] <TheHighChild> LOL
[05:53] <TheHighChild> I love goatse
[05:53] <uniq> dry|kiss: well, you know what i mean i presume :)
[05:53] <DRY|KISS> yeah
[05:54] <DRY|KISS> TheHighChild: .3(&)E
[05:54] <DRY|KISS> well that wasn't good was it?
[05:55] <DRY|KISS> why isn't there a channel dedicated to goatse?
[05:57] <DRY|KISS> i think i scared _igKh_
[05:58] <kronoz> cna flash be installed in 64bit kubuntu?
[05:58] <DRY|KISS> no
[05:59] <kronoz> what about w32codecs?
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> It can all be installed under a chroot - and you can use schroot to make it appear seemless
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> (wastes quite a bit of space though)
[06:00] <kent> can Ruby debug in Emacs ?
[06:00] <kronoz> well space isn't really a problem
[06:01] <kent> anybody help me?
[06:01] <DRY|KISS> http://www.100mb.nl/ <-- ascii tux i found
[06:02] <DRY|KISS> can someone post that link to Enemy territory again? i lost it
[06:05] <kent> help
[06:05] <Lynoure> kent: help with what?
[06:05] <kent> can Ruby debug in Emacs ?
[06:06] <kent> i'm a newbie of ubuntu,Emacs
[06:07] <kent> and how to register this channel
[06:07] <Lynoure> kent: kent I've never mixed ruby with Emacs... but given that some people use Emacs for irc, I assume anything is possible
[06:07] <kent> thanks...
[06:08] <Lynoure> kent: It's registered already, to someone else.
[06:08] <DRY|KISS> klingons speak unix:
[06:09] <DRY|KISS> "Grep ls awk chmod Mknod ksh tar imap Wall fsck yacc"
[06:09] <kronoz> lol
[06:10] <kent> i'm not a registered user and i can't send private message to you.
[06:10] <kent> what have you said?
[06:10] <DRY|KISS> type /msg nickserv <password>
[06:10] <DRY|KISS> type /msg nickserv register <password>
[06:10] <DRY|KISS> sorry
[06:11] <DRY|KISS> !register
[06:11] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:12] <DRY|KISS> who speaks dutch here?
[06:12] <weihello> thanks
[06:13] <weihello> boy, i love dutch  football team
[06:13] <DRY|KISS> :p
[06:14] <DRY|KISS> !having had sexual relations with that woman
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about having had sexual relations with that woman
[06:14] <DRY|KISS> lol
[06:14] <DRY|KISS> that bot is fun
[06:16] <weihello> lol
[06:16] <psb154> england scores.....
[06:17] <weihello> yeah
[06:17] <psb154> bout *^*& time
[06:17] <weihello> but i don't like england.
[06:17] <weihello> team
[06:17] <psb154> well they are shait right now
[06:19] <leo__> New user here
[06:19] <DRY|KISS> is it weird that i enjoy doing sudo cat /dev/mem > memdump and then read memdump?
[06:20] <leo__> I need some help with the simple stuff right now.
[06:20] <DRY|KISS> yes
[06:20] <uniq> dry|kiss: yes. that's weird :)
[06:20] <DRY|KISS> :p
[06:21] <azzco> Hi there
[06:21] <kronoz> can schroot be apt-get'd?
[06:21] <leo__> I want to install real player and nvidia drivers
[06:22] <DRY|KISS> it's strangely soothening every time a 0F character comes by my pc beeps
[06:22] <osh_> DRY|KISS: No. Why would it be. It's a good way to find out what eats your memory.
[06:22] <DRY|KISS> leo___ use automatix
[06:22] <Lynoure> kronoz: find out with apt-cache search   or googling, if you haven't tried those already
[06:22] <DRY|KISS> and easyubuntu for the drivers
[06:22] <kronoz> Lynoure, not in kubuntu atm
[06:22] <azzco> I really don't know anything about graphics I only know that I have an intel 915 chipset and I want some new drivers to be able to play some games...can someone help me?
[06:22] <DRY|KISS> !automatix
[06:22] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[06:22] <leo__> Ok where do I get the easyubuntu?
[06:22] <DRY|KISS> !easyubuntu
[06:23] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:23] <Lynoure> kronoz: There is an online package list for ubuntu somewhere on the web, iirc
[06:23] <DRY|KISS> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:23] <leo__> Ok thanks
[06:24] <Lynoure> kronoz: schroot - Execute commands in a chroot environment, that is, yes
[06:24] <DRY|KISS> maybe it's irresponsible
[06:24] <kronoz> Lynoure: thanks
[06:24] <DRY|KISS> but i just do
[06:24] <DRY|KISS> apt-get install schroot-*
[06:25] <Lynoure> kronoz: you are welcome. :)
[06:27] <DRY|KISS> the next time i'm being stopped by the police
[06:27] <DRY|KISS> i'm gonna ask
[06:27] <DRY|KISS> do you want to sell me tickets to the police ball?
[06:28] <DRY|KISS> and then wait for him to say:
[06:28] <DRY|KISS> we at the police don't have balls

[06:28] <bobstro> DRY|KISS:  yes, i'm sure they'll let you be in complete control of the conversation.
[06:29] <Tommy2k4> if im in kate and i want to save a file hat i dont have permission to, is there a way of saving it using root without having to reopen the file with kdesu
[06:29] <DRY|KISS> no
[06:29] <DRY|KISS> kdesu is the only way
[06:30] <DRY|KISS> btw it's 2006
[06:30] <bobstro> Tommy2k4:  just save it off somewhere you do have permissions, then copy/mv it.
[06:30] <DRY|KISS> and that yes
[06:30] <weihello> now it's 00:30
[06:30] <DRY|KISS> 18:29 here
[06:31] <bobstro> Tommy2k4:  that, or open a shell and chmod the permissions then save it in kate. kinda ugly, but it works.
[06:31] <bobstro> Tommy2k4:  chmod or chown, as appropriate.
[06:31] <Tommy2k4> k
[06:31] <DRY|KISS> oh yeah don't do this:
[06:31] <DRY|KISS> chmod -x chmod
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> How can you disable the adept update manager ?
[06:31] <DRY|KISS> i did it once
[06:32] <bobstro> DRY|KISS:  rescue disks to the rescue. :)
[06:32] <DRY|KISS> ^^
[06:32] <DRY|KISS> i have hourly updates
[06:32] <DRY|KISS> *backups
[06:32] <bobstro> DRY|KISS:  back in my novell days, one of my scenarios for tests was to delete the login executable.
[06:33] <Skyskysky> Hello, is there a method in Kubuntu to do the boot sequence in interactive mode?  like pressing 'i' in some os's?
[06:33] <DRY|KISS> secure mode
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> DRY|KISS: The superuser can always reset permissions just do chmod +x chmod and it would be fine again
[06:34] <bobstro> h3sp4wn:  no fair speaking from experience!
[06:34] <DRY|KISS> i think they ask you for bootup option
[06:34] <DRY|KISS> s
[06:35] <Skyskysky> so, just press s?
[06:35] <DRY|KISS> no
[06:35] <DRY|KISS> that s was an addition to option
[06:36] <Skyskysky> i dont get it unfortunately
[06:37] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: there's no equivalent to the interactive mode
[06:37] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: the best there is is booting in recovery mode
[06:37] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: you should have two options in grub when you boot
[06:37] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: one for the linux normal, and one recovery/rescue or something
[06:37] <Skyskysky> johnflux_: both are stalling out, my fstab is pooched I think
[06:38] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: where does the rescue one fall out?
[06:38] <gybot> hi is there a way to get something to open on a designated desktop.
[06:39] <gybot> only?
[06:39] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: can you remember roughly what it says?
[06:39] <Skyskysky> johnflux_:fuse init (API version 7.3)
[06:39] <Lynoure> gybot: other than going onto that desktop and opening there, you mean?
[06:39] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: are you using that box now?  can you see the box from where you?
[06:40] <driz_> yes
[06:40] <Lacerta> can i somehow disable my other audio device?
[06:40] <Skyskysky> johnflus_:normal on 'Cehcking all filesystems"
[06:40] <Tommy2k4> how do i stop it switching windows when i scroll mousehwwl over taskbar/window title
[06:40] <Tommy2k4> mousewheel*
[06:40] <Skyskysky> johnflux_:Im booted into the windows part
[06:40] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: on the same machine?  hmm makes it difficult for me to help you debug hehe
[06:40] <gybot> Lynoure: yes
[06:41] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: in grub, you can press "c"
[06:41] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: and enter your own commands
[06:41] <Skyskysky> johnflux_:for me too, :P
[06:41] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: hmm actually first step
[06:41] <dr34mc0d3r> i built a ubuntu 6.06 for my duaghter (2 yrs) - im needing some sort of Sound Event Manager - so she will have diff sounds for various events. Got any ideas?
[06:41] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: Okay try this..   in grub, select the rescue option, but don't press enter
[06:42] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: press "e" to edit it
[06:42] <dr34mc0d3r> events like minimize, maximize, open prog, close prog.....
[06:42] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: it will show you several commands
[06:42] <Skyskysky> johnflux_:thanks
[06:42] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: select the one that says kernel in it
[06:42] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: and press e again
[06:42] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: that will let you edit it
[06:43] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: on the end, append "init=/bin/bash"
[06:43] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: that will tell it to skip 99% of the boot, and dump you into a console
[06:43] <gybot> Lynoure: yes
[06:43] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: it even bypasses asking for a password, so it's great if you forget the root password btw ;)
[06:44] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: do that now :)
[06:44] <Skyskysky> johnflux_:right on, erm what program to edit a file in console lol
[06:44] <Tommy2k4> that was bad
[06:45] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu sort of crashed
[06:45] <Lynoure> gybot: It's an interesting question, I would be interested in the answer too but unfortunately do not know of one yet
[06:45] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: you can use "joe" or "nano"
[06:45] <Skyskysky> johnflux_:great thanks tonnes :D
[06:45] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: you will need to run:   mount -o remount, rw /     in order to make changes
[06:45] <johnflux_> Skyskysky: you will need to enter that to make your root /  read-write
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> Skyskysky: You may want to learn some simple commands in vim
[06:45] <gybot> Lynoure: Ok then. That would be cool
[06:46] <Tommy2k4> my monitor went blank then lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then blank again then monitor said frequency out of range 0hz or something
[06:46] <Tommy2k4> like the 3rd/4th time its happened since ive been using kubuntu
[06:46] <johnflux_> Tommy2k4: what video card?
[06:47] <Tommy2k4> integrated
[06:47] <Lynoure> hmmm
[06:47] <DRY|KISS> do lspci | grep video
[06:47] <Lynoure> gybot: I miht have seen something related in the System Settings
[06:47] <DRY|KISS> and post the output
[06:47] <johnflux_> Tommy2k4: i'm guessng i830
[06:48] <Tommy2k4> 82810E
[06:48] <gybot> Lynoure: ok i'll check it out
[06:49] <johnflux_> Tommy2k4: what's the whole line?
[06:49] <Tommy2k4> DRY|KISS, when i do that nothing happens
[06:49] <DRY|KISS> weird
[06:49] <Lynoure> gybot: Desktop->Window-specific settings have something about desktops, at least
[06:49] <Tommy2k4> !paste
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:49] <johnflux_> Tommy2k4: lspci | grep VGA
[06:50] <johnflux_> Tommy2k4: failing that, just do  lspci   and look for something video-ish :)
[06:50] <Tommy2k4> 0000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)
[06:50] <johnflux_> hmm yeah that's a standard
[06:50] <johnflux_> Tommy2k4: the drivers are well tested and supported
[06:51] <Tommy2k4> i thought so
[06:51] <Tommy2k4> any ideas what could be causingn it
[06:52] <gybot> Lynoure: cool i think thats it. now i dont have to worry about moving things around they will open where i set tehm to. Thanks
[06:52] <weihello> England win the game.
[06:52] <johnflux_> tell me about it
[06:52] <Tommy2k4> yea
[06:53] <Tommy2k4> wayne rooney has to be one of the ugliest people in the world
[06:53] <DRY|KISS> opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink
[06:53] <johnflux_> there's 20+ year olds yelling and screaming outside
[06:53] <johnflux_> I hate my estate
[06:53] <johnflux_> :(
[06:53] <Tommy2k4> lol
[06:53] <DRY|KISS> butt they're fun to poke at
[06:53] <johnflux_> DRY|KISS: what exactly do you dry kiss ?
[06:53] <Lynoure> gybot: You are welcome. :)
[06:53] <DRY|KISS> DRY: don't repeat yourself
[06:53] <johnflux_> you poke at people's assholes?
[06:54] <DRY|KISS> KISS: keep it simple stupid
[06:54] <izaias> ola
[06:54] <DRY|KISS> not usually
[06:54] <gybot> Lynoure: thats onething i couldn't do on Windows. :-D
[06:54] <Tommy2k4> now does anyone have any ideas of why my monitor would start saying frequency out of range 0hz
[06:54] <johnflux_> izaac: ola amigo!
[06:54] <bobstro> dr34mc0d3r:  you mean normal system events, or something else?
[06:54] <izaias> estou tentando cofigurar o kubuntu pela primeiraves alguem pode me ajudar
[06:55] <bobstro> Tommy2k4:  0hz?
[06:55] <DRY|KISS> SetLocale(locale=EN_us)
[06:55] <Tommy2k4> something like that
[06:56] <Tommy2k4> could be a refresh rate problem?
[06:56] <izaias> ola izaac
[06:56] <Tommy2k4> there was another number before the 0hz
[06:57] <Tommy2k4> it was like
[06:57] <Tommy2k4> 71Khz / 0hz
[06:57] <izaias> vc pode me ajudar
[06:57] <Tommy2k4> dunno the first number tho i just made 71 up
[06:57] <weihello> i really do not like england team. they just a star team. the Holland team is the best team.
[06:57] <Lacerta> yo, how do i change the current audio mixer?
[06:57] <Tommy2k4> england ftw
[06:58] <weihello> ftw,what's it mean?
[06:58] <omega> For the win
[06:58] <izaias> a alguem dobrasil ai q possa me ajudar
[06:58] <DRY|KISS> OMG
[06:58] <DRY|KISS> i just ripped the most putrid fart ever and my fucking dog looked at me and walked out of my room
[06:58] <weihello> OMG==oh my god?
[06:59] <DRY|KISS> yes
[06:59] <omega> Thanks for sharing DRY|KISS.
[06:59] <DRY|KISS> *chuckles*
[06:59] <bobstro> DRY|KISS:  and i got kicked for talking about evangelizing linux. sheesh.
[07:00] <weihello> i'm hungry hungry. Lynoure now is enjoying his dinner..... :(
[07:01] <bobstro> Tommy2k4:  that's probably a sign you've selected an invalid resolution for the screen. this is when firing up x/kde?
[07:02] <olivier> hello world
[07:02] <Tommy2k4> no it happened after id been booted up for a while
[07:02] <bobstro> olivier:  hello, unless you're testing a program. :)
[07:02] <bobstro> Tommy2k4:  not the screen saver by any chance?
[07:02] <Tommy2k4> incidentally it happened when i was trying to take a screensht
[07:03] <Tommy2k4> but its happened in the past and i dont think i was taking a screenshot then
[07:03] <olivier> infact i'm discovering linux world
[07:04] <weihello> can i send a pic here ?
[07:08] <bobstro> weihello:  a pic of WHAT?
[07:08] <weihello> sreenshot
[07:09] <bobstro> weihello:  there's no real pic viewing here. why do you want to show it?
[07:10] <bobstro> is there a way to set the proxy for *all* kde network apps in one place?
[07:10] <johnflux_> weihello: to post a pic, you upload to an image sharing site, then post the url
[07:11] <omeow> Can anyone try adding something to pastebin.com? My browser keeps loading forever.
[07:12] <johnflux_> weihello: imageshack.us  is the most popular
[07:12] <weihello> wait..
[07:12] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone know where i would put a superkaramba theme to make it accessable to all users?
[07:13] <weihello> i visited it very well.
[07:14] <JohnFlux> fiyawerx: it should say in the instructions for the theme you downloaded
[07:14] <JohnFlux> fiyawerx: do you know where to put it to make it accessable for a single user?
[07:14] <fiyawerx> well i just have it on my desktop, and you can "add a local theme to the manager" then pick it manually, then it stays in the manager
[07:14] <fiyawerx> but only for me
[07:15] <Tommy2k4> how can i get xmms to play wma, amarok plays it finer
[07:15] <Tommy2k4> fine*
[07:15] <Tommy2k4> actually wait no it doesnt thats the problem
[07:15] <Tommy2k4> amarok played wma till i upgraded it till 1.4 then it just closes instantly whenever i try
[07:21] <skyskysky> johnflux_:well that worked! at least its booting to something :P
[07:22] <skyskysky> johnflux:wont let me edit the file tho.. saying its a "read only filesystem"
[07:22] <Tommy2k4> kdesu
[07:22] <skyskysky> command line :(
[07:22] <skyskysky> all I know how to do there is type "rufus" lol
[07:23] <Tommy2k4> i love command line
[07:24] <skyskysky> you know how I can edit fstab from it? just with bash?
[07:26] <Tommy2k4> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[07:26] <skyskysky> kde is not running
[07:26] <Tommy2k4> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[07:26] <Tommy2k4> o i guess u cant run kate either then?
[07:27] <skyskysky> nope
[07:27] <Tommy2k4> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[07:37] <skyskysky2> owie, damn power outages... never move here. erm anyway.  Does anyone know how I can edit fstab in bash with no kde running at all... and seeimingly limited commands?
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> sudo vim /etc/fstab
[07:38] <skyskysky2> there is no sudo command, but im in root, and nano wont let me save it at all
[07:40] <Tommy2k4> ubuntu doesnt have a root user :s
[07:40] <skyskysky2> I dont think I have ubuntu loaded at all... added init=/bin/bash to my grub just to get a command line
[07:41] <Tommy2k4> you could try chmod'ing the file to be writeable
[07:42] <skyskysky2> gives me an error saying its on a "read only filesystem"
[07:42] <skyskysky2> and I yelled, but its my filesystem!
[07:43] <Tommy2k4> you could use the livecd
[07:44] <weihello> i can't save no permission file in gedit. what can i do ?
[07:44] <skyskysky2> hmmm good plan may have to... now just wish I didnt hand em all out :D
[07:44] <Tommy2k4> kdesu
[07:44] <weihello> kdesu?
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> to run something as root
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> kdesu gedit /path/to/file
[07:45] <weihello> just like : sudo gedit somefile?
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> yep
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> i always use sudo anyway
[07:45] <JohnFlux> skyskysky: i got disconnected
[07:45] <JohnFlux> skyskysky: I told you you have to do   mount -o remount,rw /
[07:45] <JohnFlux> Tommy2k4: are you talking to skyskysky ?
[07:45] <Tommy2k4> no
[07:45] <weihello> which language u said?
[07:45] <weihello> kdesu
[07:45] <skyskysky2> johnflux I didnt see that, my power went out
[07:46] <JohnFlux> foo!
[07:46] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: heh
[07:46] <Tommy2k4> is there any advantage of using kdesu rather than sudo
[07:46] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: anyway, you need to mount / as rw
[07:46] <karim> speech french?
[07:46] <skyskysky2> fohnflux: hehe no doubt, scared the poop outta me, so just type what you said?
[07:46] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: because you have skipped of the boot sequence
[07:46] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: right
[07:47] <skyskysky2> johnflux: aite, trying now.
[07:47] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: wait
[07:47] <skyskysky2> kk
[07:47] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: when you reboot, there's no shutdown sequence
[07:47] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: you have bypassed all the scripts
[07:47] <weihello> sorry, i'm a newbie of linux. kdesu is a command......
[07:47] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: so you need to do:   mount -o remount,ro /
[07:47] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: then shutdown however
[07:47] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: you need to remount as readonly to be safe
[07:48] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: okaywise you might hurt the filesystem
[07:48] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: okay?
[07:48] <skyskysky2> so after I change the file, reboot and do the ro one?
[07:48] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: no, do the first rw one, change the file, do the ro one, reboot
[07:49] <skyskysky2> Johnflux: cool beans, brb.. diffrent box this time :D
[07:49] <JohnFlux> hehe
[07:50] <karim2001> hello
[07:51] <skyskysky2> johnflux: now I think I have an inkling as to why some parts are hard to edit :P
[07:51] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: hmm?
[07:52] <weihello> anybody from China?
[07:52] <talljon84> I'm trying to get v4l working; however, whenever I launch v4l-conf or xawtv, the screen goes blank and I have to ctrl+shift+backspace to kill x. How do I fix this?
[07:53] <skyskysky2> johnflux: was, I hope, an issue with the fstab file that I edited a bit ago.. the system should have a test or survey to let you edit some things :P
[07:54] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: it would be useful
[07:54] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: go make ;)
[07:55] <skyskysky2> johnflux: rufus will hopefully be the only command I have to type from now on =-)
[07:55] <skyskysky2> YAHOO
[07:55] <JohnFlux> what's rufus?
[07:56] <NKjoep> hola
[07:56] <JohnFlux> hola amigo
[07:56] <NKjoep> :D
[07:56] <skyskysky2> JohnFlux: for torrents; and thanks it booted into kde again... Im kissing my desktop now :D
[07:56] <skyskysky2> johnflux: no more setting ntfs partitions to rw for Sky
[07:57] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: neat.  I used to use btdownloadcurses
[07:57] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: now I use azeurus though in the gui
[07:57] <JohnFlux>  /j #japanese
[07:58] <JohnFlux> doh
[07:58] <skyskysky2> johnflux: I should try it... rufus is kinda... slower then a crack whore the day before wefare cheques get mailed
[07:58] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: azereus runs slowly (it's java)
[07:58] <JohnFlux> skyskysky2: but downloads decently
[07:59] <skyskysky2> johnflux: hmmm, rufus is python, slow and dl slow... but I think its more the way they did the interface then anything that makes the app slow.
[08:00] <skyskysky2> johnflux: anyway, thanks again.  Ima go break something else :)
[08:01] <DRY|KISS> ROFLOLWOALDFVGWKLDBNMKEB NEWNBCUNTBLINGLOJEVFFRILS
[08:01] <DRY|KISS> http://www.bash.org/?190157
[08:05] <omeow> Hello. :)
[08:06] <omega> Hi
[08:08] <omeow> Hello omeow
[08:08] <omeow> Hi omega
[08:09] <nico8481> lo
[08:10] <gemidjy> howto on making ATI 3D acceleration?
[08:10] <gemidjy> *found
[08:11] <JohnFlux> !ati
[08:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:11] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: ^^
[08:12] <gemidjy> JohnFlux: thanks
[08:13] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: ubotu is very useful
[08:13] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: say hello to him, and learn him :)
[08:13] <gemidjy> ubotu hello dear
[08:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello dear
[08:13] <gemidjy> ahh sorry ubotu
[08:13] <JohnFlux> ubotu: hello
[08:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[08:13] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: the debian one is much more friendly :/
[08:13] <emonkey> !ubotu
[08:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:14] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: he has a reply for almost thing you can think of
[08:14] <JohnFlux> s/thing/everything/
[08:14] <gemidjy> :)
[08:14] <gemidjy> gweat
[08:14] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: oh, really, everything.   say "i love you" to dpkg ;)
[08:15] <JohnFlux> ubotu: are you a bot
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about are you a bot
[08:15] <JohnFlux> bah
[08:15] <gemidjy> do u use Synpatic under Kubuntu?
[08:15] <gemidjy> Synaptic*
[08:15] <JohnFlux> gemidjy: me?  i've tried it once or twice
[08:15] <soon> Hi folks trying to export from Kino to DVD - mpeg2enc is missing ... cant seem to find it using Adept ... what should I do?
[08:16] <dr_willis> !info mpeg2enc
[08:16] <ubotu> Package mpeg2enc does not exist in dapper
[08:16] <DRY|KISS> you penetrate my mouth
[08:16] <DRY|KISS> your in-and-outs are furious
[08:16] <DRY|KISS> sometimes a hair get stuck between my teeth
[08:16] <DRY|KISS> you always leave that white tasty liquid in my mouth
[08:16] <DRY|KISS> good ol' toothbrush
[08:17] <DRY|KISS> ^^
[08:17] <dr_willis> I would say use the  Source Soon.
[08:17] <gemidjy> !ubotu linux-restricted
[08:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu linux-restricted
[08:17] <DRY|KISS> oops wrong channel
[08:17] <gemidjy> why there isn't package for linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-386 in Kubuntu and in Ubuntu's repos there is
[08:17] <dr_willis> Hmm.. they use the same repos as far as i know.
[08:18] <soon> thanks!
[08:18] <dr_willis> Im guessing ya got a server thats confused.
[08:18] <gemidjy> me too, that is why I ask
[08:18] <dr_willis> ive heard of a few repo servers that seem to be missing packages every so often
[08:18] <soon> the !info mpeg2enc ... am I supposed to type that into the Adept seach field?
[08:18] <soon> (probably a stupid question)
[08:18] <dr_willis> !info k3b
[08:18] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[08:19] <dr_willis> soon,  No.. :P its a bot search tool of the packages
[08:19] <dr_willis> see.
[08:19] <dr_willis> you could try 'apt-cache search mpeg2'
[08:19] <dr_willis> from the shell and see what it shows up
[08:20] <soon> I get nothing :-(
[08:20] <GillesM> hello I have compiled new kernel from kernel.org .. how can I get kubuntu splash screen after the grub ?
[08:21] <dr_willis> then i guess its back to finding the source and compiling it.
[08:21] <soon> i guess
[08:21] <dr_willis> !splash
[08:21] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[08:21] <dr_willis> gee thtas a useless factoid. :P lol
[08:21] <dr_willis> not sure about the kernel splash image. i always disable that lame thing
[08:21] <dr_willis> !bootsplash
[08:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootsplash
[08:24] <GillesM> it is bootsplash problem
[08:24] <GillesM> no gnome splash problem
[08:24] <Chozabu> !uboto
[08:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about uboto
[08:24] <Chozabu> !the_murder
[08:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about the_murder
[08:24] <Chozabu> lmao (sorry, i just had to)
[08:25] <GillesM> !splash
[08:25] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[08:25] <GillesM> !bootsplash
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootsplash
[08:30] <DRY|KISS> i want a doormat with "home sweet 127.0.0.1"
[08:30] <DRY|KISS> or "home sweet localhost"
[08:30] <DRY|KISS> or "home sweet ~/."
[08:31] <dr_willis> allready seen those on 'think geek'
[08:31] <DRY|KISS> on it
[08:31] <DRY|KISS> must ... buy ... now
[08:33] <DRY|KISS> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/6806/ <-- close enough
[08:33] <DRY|KISS> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/69e3/ <-- even better
[08:36] <soon> Is anyone familiar with Kino or just video editing at all .....?
[08:36] <DRY|KISS> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/7727/ <-- must have this ^^
[08:39] <DRY|KISS> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/59e0/ <-- i want this clock
[08:40] <DRY|KISS> i think it is weird that i am interested in items from thinkgeek
[08:40] <s1mran> how do you install kubuntu from the CD? i click the install shortcut on the desktop and nothing happens :S any ideas
[08:41] <osiris> s1mran, thats how i did it on one box
[08:41] <osiris> or you can download/burn the alternate iso, and install from that
[08:42] <s1mran> oki thanks
[08:43] <DRY|KISS> http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/71a4/ lol
[08:45] <dimitris> hello
[08:45] <soon> are there any repositories not automatically in the Adept list? (I know some of them er diabled by default, but are there others)
[08:47] <tobberoth> soon: There are tons of extra unofficial repositories.
[08:47] <tobberoth> For example, you need an extra one to get amaroK 1.4
[08:47] <gatekeeper> soon have a look at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:48] <gatekeeper> soon section 4 how to add extra repositories
[08:48] <DRY|KISS> am i the only one here who uses a dvorak keyboard
[08:48] <DRY|KISS> ?
[08:48] <dr_willis> I wuld guess yes.
[08:48] <DRY|KISS> it's so cool
[08:48] <soon> thanks ... the one called multiverse should be 'official' though . right?
[08:48] <dr_willis> Ugh.. yea...  sure it is.
[08:48] <dr_willis> :)
[08:48] <DRY|KISS> no really
[08:49] <dr_willis> dont start this argument again.. ive seen it ranted about 100+ times in the past
[08:49] <dr_willis> :)
[08:49] <DRY|KISS> it's just a bit of getting used to
[08:49] <dr_willis> and then the argument goes.. ' then you move to another pc and get totally messed up........'
[08:49] <dr_willis> then the reply is "....."
[08:50] <DRY|KISS> i don't move my pc, i don't get out of my house
[08:50] <dr_willis> there ya go..
[08:50] <DRY|KISS> HAH!
[08:50] <dr_willis> DORVAK - Perfered by shutins!
[08:50] <DRY|KISS> shutins?
[08:50] <dr_willis> "Shut In's" - people that never leave the house.
[08:51] <DRY|KISS> ah ok
[08:51] <dr_willis> Its a Mental Disorder. :P
[08:51] <DRY|KISS> i never leave my house
[08:51] <DRY|KISS> i sleep on my keyboard
[08:51] <DRY|KISS> and when i wake up i see this:
[08:51] <DRY|KISS> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq.....
[08:52] <DRY|KISS> actually more like:
[08:52] <DRY|KISS> 
[08:53] <DRY|KISS> and even then i only sleep 3 hours every 36 hours
[08:53] <DRY|KISS> caffeine
[08:53] <DRY|KISS> i get immersed in coffee each day.
[08:54] <DRY|KISS> i would call it: "bukkoffee"
[08:54] <dr_willis>  Didaskaleinophobia- Fear of going to school.
[08:54] <DRY|KISS> chromafobia...
[08:55] <DRY|KISS> not that i know what that is...
[08:55] <dr_willis>  Ablutophobia- Fear of washing or bathing.
[08:55] <DRY|KISS> i don't go to school
[08:55] <dr_willis>  Arachibutyrophobia- Fear of peanut butter sticking to the roof of the mouth.
[08:56] <DRY|KISS> --> i "learn" myself and go two times per year to exams
[08:56] <DRY|KISS> i don't wash because nobody bothers me... (except when there are exams)
[08:56] <DRY|KISS> ok that went too far
[08:57] <DRY|KISS> disregard that last
[08:57] <dr_willis>  Demophobia- Fear of crowds. (Agoraphobia)
[08:57] <DRY|KISS> and i hate penis butter jelly
[08:57] <DRY|KISS> *peanut
[08:57] <DRY|KISS> oops
[08:58] <TheHighChild> Consider #kubuntu-offtopic for your penis butter jelly
[08:58] <DRY|KISS> LOL
[08:59] <dr_willis>  Athazagoraphobia- Fear of being forgotton or ignored or forgetting. or being  Put on /Ignore
[08:59] <dr_willis> :)\
[08:59] <DRY|KISS> :p
[09:00] <emonkey> !Seveas
[09:00] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:01] <DRY|KISS> it means something when you know more people on irc than in real life
[09:03] <rubso> guys, is there a WLAN monitor ?
[09:03] <dr_willis> yes
[09:03] <dr_willis> :)
[09:03] <dr_willis> !network-manager
[09:03] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[09:04] <DRY|KISS> iwlist eth0 scanning?
[09:04] <dr_willis> can do it
[09:04] <h3sp4wn> It doesn't work well with atheros or ralink though
[09:04] <soon> I'm stuck here ... I need to install mjpegtools ... it doesnt show up in Adept ... I should be in the multiverse repo as far as I can tell ... would someone with 6.06 check to see if it shows up in your Adept ??
[09:05] <dr_willis> !info mjpegtools
[09:05] <ubotu> mjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1332 kB
[09:05] <soon> why doesnt it show up in mine ?!?
[09:06] <soon> i dont know what the !info mjpegtools is ...
[09:06] <rubso> lol dr_willis i need an aplet that shows the network connection in the taskbar !
[09:06] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:06] <dr_willis> rubso,  that can dio it
[09:06] <dr_willis> and theres some others that can do it as well I belive
[09:07] <rubso> well, i clicked on the link but nothing shows up ! check it out
[09:07] <dr_willis> karamba applets can as well
[09:08] <linuxbambi> hi all, what do i have to do to make ubuntu able to play .wmv files?
[09:08] <soon> ubotu ... what is the URL of the multiverse repo in your setup?
[09:09] <k0llin> linuxbambi -> you need the win32 codecs. easyubuntu or automatix can install them for you
[09:10] <Tommy2k4> how can i get amarok or xmms to play wma files? amarok did until i upgraded to 1.4 and xmms never did :9
[09:11] <linuxbambi> k0llin what names are the packages? i'll install them by myself, just need to know the names
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> You can also get them from debian http://mirror.eepis-its.edu/debian-marillat/
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> its called w32codecs*.deb
[09:13] <k0llin> I honestly can't reme,ber the codec packages names, as I've been using automatix, sorry
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> http://mirror.eepis-its.edu/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:18] <soon> I need someone to check what the URL of the multiverse is in their setup ...
[09:18] <soon> ..and let me know :-)
[09:19] <Giniley> deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[09:19] <Giniley> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[09:19] <soon> thanks !
[09:19] <Giniley> no problem
[09:19] <Giniley> dude
[09:20] <whizz-> sudo will not ask me for a password, but just run things as su anyway
[09:20] <soon> mine looks the same (except dk.) ... can you find package mjpegtools
[09:20] <soon> 'cause I cant !
[09:20] <soon> whizz ... I thing sudo asks only for your (user) code the first time in a session ...
[09:21] <whizz-> doesn't do that either...
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> It should also ask for it again every 15 mins or something
[09:21] <soon> Giniley can you find package mjpegtools in you setup?
[09:25] <truzak> hello, how can I monitor system activity on the panel? couldn't find a way using ksysguard..
[09:27] <Jreinaldo> I need some help: I donwloaded the "iso" image of Kubuntu. I didn find there de kernel-sources. I'll need  it to compile my network card. Where could I download the modules needed to compile the source of the driver? Thanks in advance.
[09:27] <cox377> truzak: i can't answer your question but i do have a similar question, before i installed linux i was looking @ screen dumps and saw these desktops with loads information and stats of em.. does anyone had any idea how to do that?
[09:30] <soon> Im sorry to be a pest here, but I cannot (!) find package mjpegtools in the repo's (i've tried the dk. and the nl. - which Giniley uses) ....
[09:31] <soon> I've tried using Synaptic and apt-get (same difference i guess) ... no candidate !
[09:31] <truzak> cox377: for loads of information, there's "system guard". What I'm lookin for is a panel applet, like a simple gauge that changes color depending on, say, CPU or network utilization.
[09:31] <LjL> !info mjpegtools
[09:31] <ubotu> mjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1332 kB
[09:31] <LjL> soon: bet you don't have multiverse enabled
[09:32] <soon> I do !
[09:32] <soon> what does the !info mean ?!?
[09:32] <soon> where do I type !info
[09:32] <LjL> here
[09:32] <gatekeeper> Jreinaldo: have you tried searching in synaptic?
[09:32] <LjL> are you sure you do have multiverse enabled? have you tried "sudo apt-get update"?
[09:32] <soon> !info mjpegtools
[09:33] <ubotu> mjpegtools: MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:1.8.0-0.0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 496 kB, installed size 1332 kB
[09:33] <soon> ... I knew that !
[09:33] <LjL> soon: can you absolutely, positively say that you have multiverse enabled and your apt cache updated?
[09:34] <soon> In Synaptic I have two repos with multivers enabled http://dk.ubuntu.archive.com/ubuntu
[09:34] <soon> (as deb and deb-src)
[09:34] <LjL> soon: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[09:35] <soon> hmm hte pastebin is just #pastebin ... yes?
[09:35] <LjL> no
[09:35] <LjL> !pastebin
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:35] <soon> coming right up !
[09:36] <soon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16471
[09:36] <soon> ... please not ... AMD64 ... should make no diff though (?)
[09:37] <Jreinaldo> gatekeeper: I'm using another distro(Mandriva). So, I don have the synaptic.
[09:37] <LjL> soon: uhm... it can, for packages in multiverse, i think
[09:37] <LjL> soon: hold on a second
[09:38] <gatekeeper> Jreinaldo: don't know much about mandriva presumable you have looked using uprmi?
[09:38] <LjL> soon: no, there *is* mjpegtools for amd64
[09:38] <soon> the pastebin cut some stuff out ... check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16472 instead
[09:40] <LjL> soon: uh, wait, aren't those two different files?
[09:40] <Jreinaldo> gatekeeper: Yes, but through the urpmi I don't get the kernel-souces of the Kubuntu 6.06. Or do I?
[09:40] <soon> which two?
[09:40] <LjL> soon: actually - forget that -- they *are* two different files... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16471  and   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16472
[09:41] <gatekeeper> Jreinaldo: no you won't get kubuntu 6.06 kernel sources
[09:41] <LjL> soon: the former has multiverse enabled, the latter does not
[09:41] <soon> what ?!
[09:41] <LjL> soon: uh, really, look at them again. they're *entirely* different... not just some lines cut out
[09:42] <Jreinaldo> gatekeper: This is my problem! Where (the site)  that I get the kernel-sources used by the kubuntu 6.06?
[09:43] <soon> well I just copied the cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin again ... : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16473
[09:43] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:43] <Frederick> folks how do I set the JVM for eclipse?
[09:43] <LjL> soon: ok, that one does not have multiverse enabled
[09:44] <soon> but the lines with http are not commented out ...
[09:44] <soon> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:44] <LjL> yeah. if you look carefully, you'll see that is the dapper *backports*
[09:45] <LjL> anyway, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16474 should work
[09:45] <LjL> also,
[09:45] <LjL> !multiverse
[09:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:46] <gatekeeper> Jreinaldo: not really sure try http://www.kernel.org/
[09:47] <rubso> where msttcorefonts package?!
[09:47] <kenrike> hola sala
[09:47] <rubso> ..
[09:47] <LjL> !info msttcorefonts
[09:47] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[09:47] <Jreinaldo> crimsun: I'm using another distro(Mandriva). So, I don have the apt-get And even I had, I had to configure the source of the files.
[09:47] <rubso> LjL its not in the repos !
[09:47] <Frederick> anyone here using eclipse?
[09:47] <LjL> rubso: it is.
[09:47] <LjL> !multiverse
[09:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:47] <gatekeeper> Jreinaldo: others will be more knowlegable
[09:48] <soon> LjL pardon me, if Im daft, but I have no idea how the pastebins came out different ... and I dont quite understand about the backport ... should I remove that bit of text?
[09:48] <rubso> LjL i enabled the multiverse, and i couldn't find it
[09:48] <rubso> check it out by yourself !!!!!!
[09:48] <Jreinaldo> gatekeeper: Thank you for your information. I'll try. I only need to know the exact version of the kernel.
[09:49] <LjL> soon: backports are programs that are in Edgy Eft (which is the next version of Ubuntu) and are "back"-ported to the current version (Dapper). you may or may not want to have backports enabled, that's your decision. backports can be unreliable
[09:49] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: scroll to the bottom of http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-source-2.6.15 and read under "More Information on linux-source-2.6.15"
[09:49] <LjL> rubso: how can i check it out for myself?
[09:49] <LjL> rubso: perhaps you should look if you have enabled multiverse correctly
[09:49] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: download the orig.tar.gz and the diff.gz
[09:50] <Jreinaldo> crimsum: Thank you for your information.
[09:50] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: we use 2.6.15.6 + backports of many drivers from 2.6.16 and 2.6.17-git + lots of patches forward-ported from our 2.6.12 tree
[09:50] <Infecto> hey
[09:50] <soon> LjL ... I changed the distribution from dapper-backports to dapper and now I find mjpegtools ?
[09:50] <Infecto> how to turn offf right and middle button in mouse
[09:50] <soon> (should be a :-) not a ?)
[09:50] <Infecto> in xorg.conf
[09:51] <rubso> LjL i know its enabled, i couldn't find the package, thats it !
[09:51] <Infecto> anybody familiar with any solution ?
[09:51] <LjL> soon: no.... no. look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16474 , i have changed your pastebin so that multiverse *is included*. use that. then if you want to disable backports, just comment it out with a #
[09:52] <LjL> rubso: well if you can't find the package, then multiverse is not enabled (or you haven't issued a "sudo apt-get update"), because that package *is* in multiverse
[09:52] <soon> Right ... I think the penny just dropped :-) THANKS !
[09:52] <DRY|KISS> apparently a teacher in britain was arrested. on him they found a pencil, eraser, ruler, protractor and compass. They said he was part of the Al Gebra network, and that he had weapons of math instruction!
[09:53] <cox377> lol
[09:53] <Jreinaldo> crimsun: Let me explore a little more your knolodge. I have a network card ENCORE ENL832-TX-ICNT. Ever new version of linux I use I have to recomplie the driver. Do you know if there is somewere withe de finel module of this card?
[09:53] <cox377> has anyone managed to run something like the XPDE them on kubuntu?
[09:53] <Frederick> how do I discover wich JVMs I have in klubuntu/
[09:54] <LjL> rubso: basically, you have the main "dapper" repository, with the main distribution. then you have the "dapper-updates" one, which gives you bugfixes. "dapper-security" gives you security patches. "dapper-backports" gets you packages from the next version. ------ each of these is divided into "main", "restricted", "universe" and "multiverse" components
[09:55] <rubso> LjL: i know
[09:55] <LjL> Frederick:  sudo update-alternatives --list java
[09:55] <rubso> LjL: did you check it out ?
[09:56] <LjL> rubso: check out *what*? you didn't give me anything to check out. perhaps you could give me your sources.list
[09:56] <rubso> LjL: do you want me to "DCC send" you my sources.list?
[09:56] <Frederick> why is eclipse SO slow in kubuntu?
[09:56] <LjL> soon: see the above, i actually intended to adress it to you
[09:57] <LjL> rubso: no, use the pastebin instead, it's handier
[09:57] <LjL> !pastebin
[09:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:57] <zorglu1> Frederick: which java do you use ?
[09:57] <soon> thanks again
[09:57] <Frederick> 1.5.0
[09:57] <Frederick> used to be cool in gentoo
[09:57] <JohnFlux> Frederick: possibly because it has to load all of gtk
[09:57] <zorglu1> Frederick: i had issue with the gnu java stuff
[09:57] <JohnFlux> Frederick: if it's the only gtk widget version you have
[09:57] <JohnFlux> Frederick: uh gtk program
[09:57] <soon> that was exactly the penny that dropped for me :-)
[09:58] <zorglu1> Frederick: oh i use sun stuff without issue. on fedora tho
[09:58] <zorglu1> JohnFlux: there is a kde version for eclipse ?
[09:58] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: no :( :(
[09:58] <Frederick> JohnFlux, how do I fix it?
[09:59] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: because of stupid ibm and license problems
[09:59] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: can you believe it's actually been written
[09:59] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: but trolltech and ibm can't agree on a license
[09:59] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: so frustrating
[09:59] <rubso> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16476
[09:59] <zorglu1> JohnFlux: so like eclipse is not really usable on kubuntu ?
[09:59] <JohnFlux> Frederick: I don't know sorry
[09:59] <zorglu1> JohnFlux: this is a big trouble for me :) i use eclipse all day
[09:59] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: no idea - just saying it will use the gtk widget set
[10:00] <LjL> rubso: multiverse is not enabled
[10:00] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: it's should work
[10:00] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: if it's not working for Frederick, that's a bug
[10:00] <skip_> jemand deutsches hier der mit mit java und adept helfen kann!?
[10:00] <zorglu1> JohnFlux: well he is saying it is very slow
[10:00] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: I'm talking about that eclipse can't use the qt widgets - only gtk ones
[10:00] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: that's a bug
[10:00] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: dunno about it ;)
[10:00] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: which driver does it use?
[10:01] <zorglu1> JohnFlux: i plan to pass my 2 box under kubuntu and i dev on eclipse :)
[10:01] <zorglu1> JohnFlux: ok will do some experiments then :)
[10:01] <Jreinaldo> crimsun: Sundance.
[10:01] <skip_> who can help me with adept?
[10:01] <rubso> LjL : how to enable it?
[10:01] <JohnFlux> zorglu1: *nod*  test it first
[10:01] <JohnFlux> Frederick: maybe try using a different java
[10:01] <JohnFlux> skip_: noone
[10:01] <JohnFlux> skip_: because you didn't ask a question about it
[10:02] <JohnFlux> skip_: in english
[10:02] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: why don't the original versions included in the various distros work?
[10:02] <chillfaktor> bazzi?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> crimsun: are there plans for kdocker to make it in edgy?
[10:03] <Bazzi> what?
[10:03] <Jreinaldo> crimsun: Good question! I really don't know.
[10:03] <skip_> my problem is with installing java. You have to push a "ok" button in a dialog, but i cant push it
[10:03] <crimsun> gnomefreak: sorry, I'm not current with KDE plans; should address kubuntu-devel
[10:03] <LjL> rubso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16477 <- look at the bottom lines
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ok ty im not up to date on them either lol
[10:04] <cox377> http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06253&f=snapshot2.png
[10:04] <LjL> rubso: when you've changed it, run sudo apt-get update
[10:04] <cox377> if you look @ that screen shot it shows all the computer statistics etc etc, does anyuone know what they are called?
[10:04] <chillfaktor> i've tried to install vm server ... passed houres of googling and the final action was to format ... perhaps u got some minutes for a few questions in the next hour to help me install it correctly?
[10:05] <Bazzi> I've been using ubuntu as a guest OS only, vmware wise
[10:05] <rubso> LjL: i enabled the deb-src multiverse too and i'm updating now >.<
[10:05] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[10:05] <chillfaktor> hm
[10:06] <rubso> LjL: didn't find anything no msttcorefonts
[10:06] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: the 686 kernel at least includes the sundance driver, but since I lack [your]  hardware, I can't verify it works for you
[10:06] <rubso> and that's getting me nervous
[10:06] <chillfaktor> ok just one question anyway, ... why installing vm server? and not just the player?
[10:07] <DRY|KISS> either the chocolate in my pocket has melted, or this is something altogether more sinister
[10:07] <chillfaktor> i've read some times that its enough to install the player
[10:07] <Bazzi> if you have readied vmwares that is
[10:07] <DRY|KISS> nope it's chocolate
[10:07] <Bazzi> usually you want to create them yourself though
[10:07] <DRY|KISS> phew
[10:07] <LjL> rubso: the deb-src? you mean you did *not* add the "deb" without "src"?
[10:08] <chillfaktor> *sniff*
[10:08] <LjL> rubso: or, put that another way, did you add all of the last 5 lines of that text?
[10:08] <chillfaktor> hm
[10:09] <rubso> LjL: its working now >.< sorry for bothering and thank your for your help
[10:10] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: you just need a change of attitude thats all
[10:11] <chillfaktor> attitude ... attitude ... just a moment i'll catch the dictionary :D
[10:11] <LjL> bazzi, chillfaktor: it's easy enough to create virtual machines for vmplayer to use
[10:11] <Jreinaldo> crimsun: no problem! I absorved the problem! So I know that I, probablly, will need to compile the driver. You gave me good information. Only one more: what is the exact version of the kernel used in the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 version?
[10:11] <chillfaktor> if u say so
[10:11] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: so for your vmware server thing, I'll guide you through it
[10:12] <rubso> jrreinaldo: uname -r
[10:12] <chillfaktor> the last thing i remember was, that i tried to re-compile my kernel ... ... then formating the system :D
[10:12] <LjL> chillfaktor: http://www.easyvmx.com/ , amount a thousand other options ;)
[10:12] <pmo> i dont remember my bios passworg
[10:12] <pmo> password
[10:12] <rubso> Jreinaldo: uname -r
[10:12] <pmo> :(
[10:12] <Bazzi> LjL: let him learn a bit instead
[10:12] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: so you have a clean system now?
[10:12] <chillfaktor> Bazzi: thx
[10:12] <chillfaktor> hm yeah
[10:13] <Bazzi> do you know which ubuntu packages are required to install vmware?
[10:13] <LjL> Bazzi: installing proprietary stuff from non-deb packages that can require a kernel recompile (and in his case, apparently resulted in a broken system) is not the idea i have of making people learn
[10:13] <Jreinaldo> rubso: I don have the kubuntu installed yet. I'm preparing myself to install
[10:13] <Bazzi> LjL: well, usually vmware does just require some modules to be built
[10:13] <rubso> ok, let me check
[10:13] <chillfaktor> doesnt matter if the system crashes, i just have a formated one :D
[10:14] <rubso> Jreinaldo: 2.6.15-25-386
[10:14] <chillfaktor> and bazzi, no i don't sryy ... tell me, what version exactly did you mean the last time we chatted?
[10:14] <LjL> chillfaktor: anyway, really, if you don't *need* vmware server or workstation for a particular reason, just install the player from multiverse (one command) and you'll be fine
[10:14] <Jreinaldo> rubso: Ok. Thank you.
[10:14] <chillfaktor> server? esx server? or gsx server?
[10:14] <Bazzi> and one *can* actually learn from mistakes, one just may not do the same mistake twice :)
[10:14] <rubso> :) you're welcome.
[10:14] <chillfaktor> THATS right!
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> That reason could be creating a virtual machine
[10:14] <LjL> h3sp4wn: as i said, www.easyvmx.com
[10:15] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: VMware-server-1.0.0-24927.tar.gz
[10:15] <LjL> h3sp4wn: or another dozen programs/sites that let you do the same thing
[10:15] <chillfaktor> i don't really need it, but i WANT to run windows in a window under linux ... thats just fantastic :D
[10:15] <chillfaktor> kk baz, ill dl ...
[10:15] <LjL> chillfaktor: right. vmplayer will do that quite well
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> I know you can do it with just qemu
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> (create the vmx)
[10:16] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: you need the following packages, (1) build-essential (2) linux-source-<yourkernelversion> (3) linux-headers-<yourkernelversion>
[10:16] <chillfaktor> but if my "guru" (bazzi) sais, use server, i'll use server, thx anyway :D
[10:16] <LjL> h3sp4wn: i think you can only create the disk image with qemu. you'd still have to write the actual .vmx configuration file manually
[10:16] <zorglu1> chillfaktor: have you tried ? and get it working ?
[10:16] <Riddell> /b/yuuuic
[10:16] <crimsun> Jreinaldo: 2.6.15-23-386
[10:16] <LjL> h3sp4wn: (of course, it's "just" a configuration file... but you do have to know the syntax!)
[10:16] <chillfaktor> nope sys crashed, k i'll back in 3 mins
[10:17] <LjL> does vmware server support sound?
[10:17] <Bazzi> yes it does
[10:17] <Bazzi> just not over remote connections
[10:17] <Bazzi> only localhost
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> LjL: I would use qemu with the kqemu kernel module its almost as fast - or pay for workstation if I needed any of its features
[10:17] <zorglu1> i even saw a web page about installing window from linux
[10:18] <LjL> h3sp4wn: right, but you'll have to admit installing vmplayer is kind of easy than installing kqemu
[10:18] <LjL> easier
[10:18] <zorglu1> i need to port a soft under window and intend to use window like that :)
[10:18] <Jreinaldo> Thank you for all of you that helped-me,.
[10:18] <LjL> !qemu
[10:18] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:18] <Bazzi> problem with vmware player is that it doesnt contain the vmware tools afaik
[10:18] <chillfaktor> VMware-server-1.0.0-27828.i386.rpm <<< thats the one which i'm able to dl from the vm site O.o ... i'll search google for the one u told ...
[10:18] <zorglu1> LjL: and this works ?
[10:19] <LjL> zorglu1: i don't know, i haven't tried it.
[10:19] <zorglu1> LjL: i mean this is usable
[10:19] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: you have several options on the VMware site below eachother
[10:19] <zorglu1> LjL: ok
[10:19] <h3sp4wn> To get it working properly you need qemu 0.81 or later (just take the source from sid)
[10:19] <LjL> zorglu1: windows under qemu is usable for sure, though not incredibly fast at least without kqemu
[10:19] <chillfaktor> ok ... kk ... mom ...
[10:20] <zorglu1> LjL: ok i intend to do some 'console' developement on it, like no gui stuff just porting a deamon
[10:20] <zorglu1> im so afraid of this :) i postpone the work for month now :)
[10:20] <LjL> zorglu1: both vmplayer and qemu should be good enough for that
[10:21] <zorglu1> LjL: ok thanks for the info
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> qemu -cdrom is a very useful way for testing iso's
[10:21] <chillfaktor> but, sry 4 the quest. ... but ... why using an older v.? ...
[10:21] <Bazzi> come again?
[10:22] <chillfaktor> VMware-server-1.0.0-27828.tar.gz ...
[10:22] <chillfaktor> i catched the rpm file the last time
[10:22] <chillfaktor> aaaaand
[10:23] <chillfaktor> used alien to convert du deb ...
[10:23] <Bazzi> I wouldn't do that.
[10:23] <Bazzi> alien tends to break systems
[10:23] <LjL> me neither
[10:23] <chillfaktor> i'm using debian, thought i have 2
[10:23] <LjL> !alien
[10:23] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat package management system. Not nearly as good as apt/dpkg. Avoid using .rpm packages on Ubuntu and if you really need them, use alien.
[10:23] <LjL> though this factoid needs to be changed asap
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> The really need them means not available as a tar.gz to me
[10:24] <rubso> lol Fedora Core, its a waste of time and megabytes :))
[10:24] <lowtech> why not nearly as good as apt/dpkg?
[10:24] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: you need the following packages, (1) build-essential (2) linux-source-<yourkernelversion> (3) linux-headers-<yourkernelversion> <-- you should get those packages now
[10:24] <Tommy2k4> how can i get amarok or xmms to play wma files? amarok did until i upgraded to 1.4 and xmms never did :9
[10:24] <chillfaktor> mom
[10:24] <JohnFlux> !wma
[10:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:24] <Bazzi> lowtech: I have had my fair sets of problems with suse, as opposed to debian/ubuntu
[10:24] <JohnFlux> Tommy2k4: ^^
[10:25] <Tommy2k4> but i had wma working fine until i upgraded amarok so i must have all the needed stuff
[10:25] <lowtech> ok, so no real basis other debian preference
[10:25] <JohnFlux> Tommy2k4: maybe it switched the default engine
[10:25] <Tommy2k4> still xine
[10:25] <LjL> lowtech: because of no reason. because someone put that into the factoid because they thought that in their opinion. anyway...
[10:25] <LjL> !rpm
[10:25] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[10:25] <Tommy2k4> the problem is that amarok closes as soon as i play a wma file
[10:26] <JohnFlux> Tommy2k4: #amarok then :)
[10:26] <chillfaktor> build-ess. ... done ...
[10:26] <lowtech> LjL: thanks, thatswhat i thought
[10:27] <chillfaktor> my kernel v. iiisss .... iiiiiiiissssssss .... hmmm ... 3.4.4 i think ...
[10:27] <zorglu1> that a weird kernel version :)
[10:27] <chillfaktor> or 2.4.4 O.o :D
[10:27] <chillfaktor> just a mom ^^
[10:27] <KuLover> Does anyone else ever crash but still have the ability to move their mouse?
[10:28] <zorglu1> chillfaktor: this one is possible but unlikely :) uname -r will tell you
[10:28] <zorglu1> KuLover: what do you mean by 'crash'
[10:28] <omeow> By default, I have this little menu with Home, and some other places on my kicker. How can I change that menu to just have the home location? (adding a custom button that launches konqueror /home/omeow will do the trick but it's much slower than the one from that menu. (takes 2 extra seconds)
[10:29] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: use uname -r
[10:29] <chillfaktor> ooooouuukkkkaaaayyyy .... 2.6.12-10-686 ... installing the packages ...
[10:29] <KuLover> zorglu1: Well, its more of a freeze. It seems like the DUI freezes, but The mouse will still move.
[10:29] <KuLover> zorglu1: GUI*
[10:29] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: wait. 2.6.12?
[10:29] <Bazzi> are you not on dapper yet?
[10:29] <LjL> that's breezy
[10:29] <chillfaktor> on dapper?
[10:29] <LjL> !dapper
[10:29] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[10:29] <chillfaktor> *installing > 16%)
[10:29] <zorglu1> KuLover: hmmm not that i have the solution , but next time it happen try to press 'ctrl-alt-backspace' all at the same time
[10:30] <chillfaktor> hm don't know
[10:30] <Bazzi> oi oi oi dont tell me you lived in a cave recently
[10:30] <chillfaktor> its ... hm
[10:30] <slow-motion> re
[10:30] <KuLover> zorglu1: What does that key combo do? Just wondering?
[10:30] <chillfaktor> kubuntu breezy :)
[10:30] <chillfaktor> prob?
[10:30] <Bazzi> you should consider upgrading to dapper
[10:30] <JohnFlux> HAHA
[10:30] <LjL> chillfaktor: not necessarily a problem, as long as it works well
[10:30] <JohnFlux> mauser just trying ctrl-alt-backspace   i think
[10:30] <chillfaktor> O.o now in english pls :D
[10:30] <chillfaktor> hm
[10:30] <zorglu1> KuLover: it will 'relaunch' X aka all the GUI part and put you again on the 'login splash
[10:30] <chillfaktor> lets try with this one
[10:31] <JohnFlux> *tried
[10:31] <zorglu1> KuLover: it should unblock your situation
[10:31] <chillfaktor> or do you mean it's nessesary in youre opinion?
[10:31] <chillfaktor> *guru* :)
[10:31] <Bazzi> well, for means of training you can setup vmware now and then again in dapper
[10:31] <KuLover> zorglu1: UIt does seem as though it only happens while I'm using X applications.. Last time it happened was while opeing FristWore.
[10:32] <chillfaktor> hm ... what i got to do?
[10:32] <KuLover> FrostWire*
[10:32] <Bazzi> chillfaktor, did you get those 3 packages now?
[10:32] <JohnFlux> once upon a time, /join and /part where having a race.  /join sinks.  Who won the race?
[10:32] <chillfaktor> downloading anyway, can't abort
[10:32] <chillfaktor> in adept ...
[10:32] <chillfaktor> 91%
[10:32] <crazy_penguin> night everyone. sleep well
[10:32] <LjL> JohnFlux: /part...
[10:32] <zorglu1> KuLover: yep this is only a workaround, it doesnt fix the bug. and to diagnoze such a bug is hard :)
[10:32] <chillfaktor> the last one is running
[10:32] <JohnFlux> crazy_penguin: night
[10:32] <chillfaktor> in 2min
[10:32] <chillfaktor> big packages
[10:32] <JohnFlux> LjL: get a cookie
[10:33] <chillfaktor> at least one ...
[10:33] <eXCeSS> anyone know if socket am2 is any good
[10:33] <KuLover> zorglu1: Is this a a knows bug?
[10:33] <Bazzi> yep one is 44MB
[10:33] <KuLover> zorglu1: Is this a known bug**
[10:33] <zorglu1> KuLover: not that i know of, but it may be well known without me knowing :)
[10:33] <KuLover> zorglu1: Haha.
[10:33] <LjL> KuLover: dapper'd X11 freezing randomly? i'd hope not :)
[10:33] <chillfaktor> headers ... -smp or not -smp?
[10:34] <LjL> dapper's
[10:34] <KuLover> LjL, Yeah It is, but wile its happening, I am still able to move the mouse.
[10:34] <LjL> chillfaktor: not -smp i'd say, if your "name -r" doesn't tell you you have smp
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: Are you using an ati card with dri and the opensource drivers ?
[10:35] <zorglu1> KuLover: moving the mouse may be handle directly by your graphic card, so it doesnt mean much
[10:35] <chillfaktor> all 3 pack3es installed ... go on instructing pls :)
[10:35] <KuLover> h3sp4wn Yes, ATI with the Glfrx
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> fglrx ?
[10:36] <KuLover> h3sp4wn Yeah That one ><
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> Ati cards are junk (I know I have one)
[10:36] <chillfaktor> (i see, the dictionary will be my best friend for the naxt hour :D)
[10:36] <chillfaktor> -a+e
[10:37] <chillfaktor> Bazzi: how i sayd, all 3 p. installed ... now what vm version do we use now, yours or mine?
[10:37] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: unzip the vmware archive
[10:37] <KuLover> h3sp4wn Why are they Junk?
[10:37] <Bazzi> mine!
[10:37] <chillfaktor> ll
[10:37] <chillfaktor> kk
[10:37] <chillfaktor> *search*
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: The closed source drivers are unreliable and not very well maintained
[10:38] <KuLover> h3sp4wn I wish OmegaDrivers made a Linux compatible version of their drivers.
[10:38] <DRY|KISS> There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?
[10:39] <zorglu1> /quite
[10:39] <zorglu1> /quit
[10:39] <zorglu1> the typo make my 'great irc knowledge' less impressive :(
[10:39] <DRY|KISS> :p
[10:39] <KuLover> h3sp4wn Will you be switching to Nvidia then?
[10:39] <chillfaktor> Bazzi: lol, search google for "VMware server 1.0.0-24927" you'll get 3 links :D ... this will take some minutes, i'll quote you when i got the file ...
[10:40] <DRY|KISS> got to find a channel where tey'll fall for it
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: I expect reasonably soon
[10:40] <Bazzi> chillfaktor: *sigh*
[10:40] <chillfaktor> ^^
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: Depends on what fixes have been made on the opensource r300 driver
[10:42] <KuLover> h3sp4wn I mainly freeze wile running X programs such as while opening FrostWire.. What dirvers are you using by the way.
[10:42] <DRY|KISS>  There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?
[10:42] <DRY|KISS> almost...
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: That is a known bug
[10:43] <DRY|KISS> oh oh
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: I am using fglrx but I can get 3d acceleration with the cvs mesa and the r300 driver (just not for very long at all)
[10:43] <DRY|KISS> was that one?
[10:44] <KuLover> h3sp4wn Would you say fglrx is the way to go then? I wasnt able to boot even with the ATI drivers on an X850 XT
[10:44] <chillfaktor> Bazzi: first option: i'm a fool , second option: the file doesn't exist all over the world -.-' (sry 4 my incapacity)
[10:44] <Bazzi> first option
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> KuLover: You are at the mercy of ati when they fix that problem
[10:44] <chillfaktor> -.-'
[10:49] <chillfaktor> *still searching*
[10:49] <Bazzi> its on the vmware download page
[10:49] <Bazzi> right below the rpm
[10:49] <Bazzi> (or above)
[10:49] <chillfaktor> thats a newer version!
[10:50] <chillfaktor> click to dl, you'll see
[10:50] <chillfaktor> but i'll get youre v., just some minutes
[10:50] <Bazzi> well get the newer version then
[10:51] <Bazzi> it doesn't really matter what build it is
[10:51] <chillfaktor> thats a word ... k then, hope it will work with the newer one ... *dl'ing*
[10:51] <om_> hello.. im trying to install Flash for firefox but i keep getting " /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
[10:52] <om_> and it won't install.. (i was using sudo apt-get
[10:53] <chillfaktor> 100mb / 240kb/sec ... 7mins left ...
[10:53] <om_> how do i unlock config.dat?
[10:53] <gatekeeper> om_ you haven't got adept or synaptic running as well have you?
[10:53] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed again
[10:53] <chillfaktor> i'll turn a cigarett in this time ...
[10:53] <Tommy2k4> i think its a problem with X
[10:54] <om_> Tommy- i didn't have a window up, but i "killall Adept" and now it worked!! =) thanks!!
[10:54] <chillfaktor> (to myselfe) turn ... thats the correct word? ... doesn't matter ...
[10:54] <chillfaktor> 5mins 2 go
[10:54] <Tommy2k4> lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then monitor said "attention - 31K / 0Hz - frequency out of range"
[10:54] <Tommy2k4> what could the problem be
[10:54] <Tommy2k4> its happened like 5 times so far, twice today
[10:55] <DRY|KISS> i had the great idea of doing it in the #xchat channel
[10:55] <DRY|KISS> dumb me
[10:55] <DRY|KISS> There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat?
[10:56] <chillfaktor> Bazzi: during dl'ing ... btw ... where do ya come from? GB or america?
[10:56] <chillfaktor> (3mins)
[10:56] <Bazzi> germany
[10:56] <Howitzer> What is the name of the Kubuntu window style?
[10:56] <chillfaktor> O.o
[10:56] <chillfaktor> und warum labern wa dann kein deutsch?
[10:56] <DRY|KISS> human?
[10:56] <Howitzer> i've been looking KDE-Look all over for it but haven't found it
[10:57] <Bazzi> chillfaktor #kubuntu-de :P
[10:57] <chillfaktor> ouuh :D
[10:58] <Tommy2k4> w00t austin powers c4 now for uk ppl
[10:58] <clintc> DRY|KISS: '/quit' of course, why do you ask?
[10:59] <Bazzi> gotta go, thunderstorms all over the place!
[10:59] <chillfaktor> pity, my english isn't the best ...
[10:59] <DRY|KISS> clintc: at the beginning of a line without two slashes and no space in front
[10:59] <chillfaktor> damn ... kk
[10:59] <DRY|KISS> and no /say in front
[10:59] <chillfaktor> i'll wait here
[10:59] <chillfaktor> hm
[10:59] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[10:59] <Howitzer> What is the name of the Kubuntu window style?
[10:59] <_joel> Hello everyone
[11:00] <jeff_> hello
[11:00] <_joel> Whats a good Screencasting tool for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[11:00] <jeff_> can someonr tell me how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[11:00] <jmichaelx> deutsch ist in diesem raum TOTAL verboten....
[11:00] <sander__> _joel: kremotdesktop sharing
[11:00] <bam_> anyone know the feed for kde 3.5 offhand?
[11:00] <Tommy2k4> why does kubuntu crash, lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then monitor said "attention - 31K / 0Hz - frequency out of range"
[11:01] <_joel> sander__: I mean like something that recoreds the desktop to a avi file
[11:01] <_joel> like a desktop video recorder
[11:01] <sander__> Ah I would say vnc2swf
[11:02] <chillfaktor> hm someone knows how to left a msg for someone who is off, that he gets when he gets on again?
[11:02] <_joel> cool
[11:02] <chillfaktor> gets = goes (i think ^^)
[11:02] <_joel> thanks sander__
[11:02] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[11:02] <chillfaktor> or 'comes ... again' O.o
[11:02] <sander__> good luck, I've never used it, but I've seen its results.
[11:03] <DRY|KISS> sorry
[11:03] <DRY|KISS> ping time-out
[11:03] <DRY|KISS> :p
[11:03] <DRY|KISS> well actually:
[11:03] <DRY|KISS> extracting-ethernet-cable-to-escape-nasty-surprise
[11:04] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[11:04] <clintc> DRY|KISS: that's what firewalls are for
[11:05] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[11:05] <DRY|KISS> one time's plenty
[11:05] <DRY|KISS> look on kde-look.org
[11:05] <bam_> how do I enable dragging windows from desktop-to-desktop(in the pager)
[11:05] <imachine> is there a good console cd player ?
[11:06] <imachine> for kubuntu ?
[11:06] <imachine> anyone can recomme?
[11:06] <DRY|KISS> dragging: don't know
[11:06] <DRY|KISS> but you can right click on the button on your taskbalk
[11:06] <DRY|KISS> while you are on a desktop
[11:06] <DRY|KISS> and choose "to current desktop
[11:07] <DRY|KISS> "
[11:07] <DRY|KISS> or something like that
[11:07] <DRY|KISS> i have a dutch version
[11:07] <DRY|KISS> imachine: sec
[11:07] <_joel> hello everyone
[11:07] <imachine> DRY|KISS, afkorz
[11:08] <rubso> guys, Adept won't work
[11:08] <imachine> works here
[11:08] <imachine> ;] 
[11:08] <rubso> i don't know, after i updated  the sources.list it won't work !
[11:08] <imachine> hah
[11:08] <imachine> what did you update IT to
[11:08] <imachine> UPDATE
[11:08] <imachine> wtfd
[11:08] <DRY|KISS> imachine: i found cdtool
[11:08] <imachine> update = 0,5 -> 0,6
[11:08] <imachine> DRY|KISS, aha
[11:09] <imachine> fuck piss.
[11:09] <imachine> sorry for teh obscenitiez
[11:09] <imachine> bah
[11:09] <DRY|KISS> but that the only one i found (rapidly)
[11:09] <imachine> ajsi that theereiz something elz
[11:09] <imachine> however
[11:09] <Howitzer> What is the name of the Kubuntu window style?
[11:09] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[11:10] <DRY|KISS> Howitzer: CRYSTAL FOR GODS SAKE
[11:10] <DRY|KISS> sorry for caps
[11:10] <rubso> jeff_: system settings
[11:10] <Howitzer> it ain't?
[11:11] <jeff_> i must have a problem then changed those settings and still have default
[11:11] <Howitzer> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/13969-1.jpg
[11:11] <Howitzer> doesn't look a lot like it :/
[11:11] <DRY|KISS> it has multiple looks
[11:11] <Howitzer> oh crap
[11:11] <Howitzer> hm
[11:11] <Howitzer> ignore all my requests >_>
[11:11] <DRY|KISS> :p
[11:12] <Howitzer> too bad i'm on Fedora though
[11:12] <jeff_> ???
[11:12] <Howitzer> can't believe how illogical Fedora is
[11:12] <DRY|KISS> simple: use kubuntu :p
[11:13] <jmichaelx> Howitzer: how is fedora so illogical?
[11:13] <jeff_> simple nd works use pclinuxos
[11:13] <Howitzer> i had to hack 8 config files just to use the native RPM installer to install packages that come with the DVD
[11:14] <jmichaelx> Howitzer: hmmm, i have a machine that i was thinking about putting fedora on when core 6 comes out
[11:14] <Howitzer> does it have internet access?
[11:14] <jmichaelx> Howitzer: yeah
[11:14] <DRY|KISS> on my pc i have kubuntu
[11:14] <Howitzer> then you won't have the YUM problem i had
[11:14] <BluesKaj>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY BluesKaj
[11:14] <DRY|KISS> on my laptop i have slackware to make me look geeky
[11:15] <om_> is amaroK pretty much the best audio player available for kde?
[11:15] <Howitzer> but seriously, i'm missing dpkg and apt-get SO hard :(
[11:15] <Howitzer> om_:  kind of
[11:15] <jmichaelx> DRY|KISS: i tried slackware, but i could not get it to recognize my MIC, and it did something weird to my MBR
[11:15] <DRY|KISS> BluesKaj i would change my password if i were you
[11:16] <jmichaelx> NIC*
[11:16] <DRY|KISS> owned :p
[11:16] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP
[11:16] <Howitzer> he did that on purpose so we would log into his name and he can ghostkill our ass
[11:16] <Howitzer> aaargh
[11:16] <DRY|KISS> jeff_ Look on kde-look or GTFO!!!
[11:16] <Howitzer> i wish my Kubuntu CD's arrived already :(
[11:17] <Howitzer> anyway
[11:17] <jmichaelx> Howitzer: can you not download?
[11:17] <jeff_> i did nothing there, i just need help
[11:17] <Howitzer> going to install the crystal window deco, thanks DRY|KISS
[11:17] <om_> i have this weird problem where if i already have firefox open and then i click on a link within another program that is supposed to launch my browser, it doesn't open
[11:17] <DRY|KISS> ok
[11:17] <om_> it just loads and loads and then gives up
[11:17] <Howitzer> jmichaelx: my internet connection on my other box is down atm
[11:17] <jeff_> linux users are suposed to helpful
[11:17] <jmichaelx> ahh
[11:17] <DRY|KISS> yes
[11:17] <Howitzer> jeff_: not to idiots
[11:17] <DRY|KISS> if you ask a question ONCE
[11:17] <jmichaelx> good grief....
[11:18] <DRY|KISS> not 50+ times
[11:18] <Howitzer> no but serious for a moment
[11:18] <jmichaelx> i have reposted questions in this room before... i must be an idiot, too
[11:18] <jeff_> not an idiot just not a grerasy haired geek
[11:18] <DRY|KISS> sigh...
[11:18] <Howitzer> for KDE themes, look on www.kde-look.org , for KDE apps, look on www.kde-apps.org
[11:18] <DRY|KISS> grerasy? is that a new french dish?
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> People are more likely to respond if you actually post what attempts you have made yourself to solve the problem
[11:18] <Howitzer> look
[11:19] <jeff_> i sure it is
[11:19] <Howitzer> i may have greasy hair atm, but that's because i'm home for 2 days because i'm sick
[11:19] <jeff_> ??
[11:19] <DRY|KISS> and geeks aren't greasy haired, they have no hair, less washing to bother them!
[11:20] <Howitzer> heh
[11:20] <DRY|KISS> :p
[11:20] <Howitzer> are you talking facial only? >_>
[11:20] <jeff_> kubuntu is buggy, have u tried PClinuxOS
[11:20] <DRY|KISS> let's not go there
[11:20] <Howitzer> why not
[11:20] <jmichaelx> i don't think that kubuntu is very buggy
[11:21] <DRY|KISS> :p
[11:21] <Howitzer> it's a hot subject if i pretend i'm a girl
[11:21] <DRY|KISS> are you?
[11:21] <Howitzer> jeff_: you're just flaming now.
[11:21] <Howitzer> no, but let's not think about that now
[11:21] <jeff_> sorry
[11:21] <Howitzer> think of me as a nice cute girl
[11:21] <Howitzer> *a nice cute willing girl :x
[11:21] <DRY|KISS> BUKKAKKE!!!
[11:22] <KuLover> Anyone here use Skype?
[11:22] <Howitzer> ew
[11:22] <DRY|KISS> not me
[11:22] <Howitzer> DRY|KISS: that's a bridge too far
[11:22] <Howitzer> c'mon man
[11:22] <Howitzer> that's sad
[11:22] <jmichaelx> this room just officially reached a low it had never before seen
[11:22] <eroeurbano> hi everybody
[11:22] <DRY|KISS> now that's fit for bash ^^
[11:22] <Howitzer> girl would have seen enough calcium for her whole life
[11:22] <DRY|KISS> LOL
[11:23] <Howitzer> oh god
[11:23] <Howitzer> no
[11:23] <Howitzer> not bash -_-
[11:23] <DRY|KISS> yes
[11:23] <Howitzer> i read it everyday and i always think, god fcking damnit, are people really such morons/fakers?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> PEBCAK (most of the time) - kubuntu has bugs but not compared to people who just don't read documentation
[11:23] <KinGetana> excuse me gentlemen, i? new with linux, and i was wondering how do i get this dapper of mine to support extracting of zip-files? sorry for being so in-your-face, but i'd appreciate a hint :)
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> unzip nameofzip.zip
[11:24] <Howitzer> KinGetana: use the unzip command
[11:24] <jeff_> you to ask 10 times
[11:24] <gnomefreak> KinGetana: it does by default
[11:24] <Howitzer> anyway
[11:24] <jeff_> then DRYKiss will yell at you
[11:24] <Howitzer> i'm off
[11:24] <KinGetana> thank you :)
[11:24] <Howitzer> see you guys
[11:24] <jmichaelx> and call you an idiot
[11:24] <jeff_> right
[11:25] <jeff_> an f'n idiot
[11:25] <jmichaelx> yes
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> KinGetana: Just open a terminal - the file will be in either Desktop or the directory you start in
[11:25] <cox377> since making the transfer to kubuntu from windows one thing i've noticed is that when browsing using firefox the text isnt so clear and defined.. could this be a general driver issue or???
[11:26] <KinGetana> okay, i'll have a go with this, thanks for the tips
[11:26] <DRY|KISS> this is what i made of it:
 linux users are suposed to helpful
 jeff_: not to idiots
 not an idiot just not a grerasy haired geek
 look
 i may have greasy hair atm, but that's because i'm home for 2 days because i'm sick
 and geeks aren't greasy haired, they have no hair, less washing to bother them!
 heh
 :p
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> KinGetana: Or you can just use ark (k menu run ark) its a graphical utility which can extract zips
 are you talking facial only? >_>
 let's not go there
[11:26] <jmichaelx> cox377: it could be the font?
 why not
 it's a hot subject if i pretend i'm a girl
 are you?
 jeff_: you're just flaming now.
 no, but let's not think about that now
 think of me as a nice cute girl
 *a nice cute willing girl :x
 BUKKAKKE!!!
 ew
 DRY|KISS: that's a bridge too far
[11:26] <ArmedGeek> wtf ?
 c'mon man
 that's sad
 now that's fit for bash ^^
 girl would have seen enough calcium for her whole life
 LOL
 oh god
 no
 not bash -_-
[11:27] <ArmedGeek> ARE THERE NO OPS IN HERE ?
[11:27] <jmichaelx> ok someone needs to ban DRY|KISS
[11:27] <jeff_> and im the idiot
[11:27] <gnomefreak> !ops
[11:27] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[11:28] <cox377> jmichaelx: good thinking brains ;)
[11:28] <clintc> we appear to be opless
[11:28] <jeff_> im going to ask again in case someone new is on that will answer, ok?
[11:29] <jaro> Anybody in here with an Acer Notebook ??
[11:29] <jmichaelx> jeff_: do it
[11:29] <Raven301> I have a dell
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ping?
[11:29] <SkrotFFS> jaro: I've got one. Acer Travelmate 3004TWMi
[11:29] <jeff_> how do i change the default login screen to show all the users, like XP. I have gone into system settings and changed the settings that I see, and read about in the fourms.
[11:30] <jaro> SkrotFFS: I need to know what monitor I have
[11:30] <jeff_> still no deal
[11:30] <SkrotFFS> jaro: Uhm, no idea. Why do you need to know?
[11:30] <jaro> SkrotFFS:  i have problems with the screen...
[11:30] <SkrotFFS> I see. What sort of problem?
[11:30] <jaro> SkrotFFS:  for example when I log off, then the screen goes off.. turns black.. and wont come back anymore until restart
[11:30] <SkrotFFS> oh. Dunno about that
[11:31] <SkrotFFS> There might be some webpages about linux on you laptop if you google it though
[11:31] <jaro> it must have to do with the monitor, because a standard monitor plugged in is doing fine
[11:31] <jaro> SkrotFFS: i had no luck with google yet...
[11:31] <jaro> SkrotFFS:  the Monitor is configured as plugin-standard... that might not be right
[11:32] <jaro> SkrotFFS:  but I dont know where to find the information about the monitor
[11:32] <jeff_> thanks:--jmichael i'll try some other time
[11:32] <jmichaelx> jeff_: sometimes it pays to just come in at a diiferent time, and in the mean time, keep combing through the forums and docs
[11:33] <jeff_> jmichael yep that is what i will do
[11:36] <nicosaan> Anyone mind digging http://digg.com/programming/Code_Bash for me?
[11:51] <Raito> For some reason I can't see anything in azureus, I can open a torrent, and I know it is downloading because my network box shows it, but the entire box is grey and I see nothing. Using Kubuntu 6.06
[11:52] <Raito> Oh, and I have to open it twice to show it. The first time the frog pops up and it says all the loading thing, and the second time the windows pops up
[12:03] <om_> my kubuntu won't play .mp3s =`(
[12:03] <crimsun> using amarok?
[12:03] <om_> amaroK just says "playing" for 1 sec and then i get "playlist finished"
[12:04] <om_> yeah also kafeine
[12:04] <crimsun> do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[12:04] <clintc> om_: default install?
[12:04] <om_> yeah default
[12:04] <om_> i can play system sounds w/o a problem (like when i log on sound)
[12:04] <clintc> you have to get the extra codecs
[12:04] <om_> oh
[12:04] <om_> how?
[12:05] <flo> !resticted formats
[12:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about resticted formats
[12:05] <clintc> do you know how to add respositores?
[12:05] <om_> yeah
[12:05] <om_> using Adept
[12:05] <antinobody> !RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <antinobody> much better
[12:06] <om_> thanks!
[12:06] <clintc> add universe and multiverse, then update, and then search for extra codecs