[12:00] <ToHellWithGA> Knome: is there a #apache on this sever?
[12:00] <Knome> yep
[12:00] <RawSewage> Lynoure, ok ty
[12:00] <ToHellWithGA> thanks
[12:00] <rixxon> how can i check which version of ipw2200 i have?
[12:00] <BIAF> webmin/sendmail issue , anyone help?
[12:00] <Sivik> how do i go about getting wine to see a .iso file as a cdrom?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> rixxon: apt-cache policy ipw2200?
[12:01] <Tonren> Sivik: I don't know much about wine, but I think that's a different thing entirely... that's mounting a virtual CD drive, or something like that.
[12:01] <Warbo> I'm back
[12:01] <Sivik> Tonren, thats what i'm tring to
[12:01] <garryF> I guess advising unstalling xgl/compiz because it broke his cedega and dri isn't a good idea, for he seems to not be talking to me.
[12:02] <kristian> what means sudo init 0?
[12:02] <rixxon> gnomefreak: thanks, but it isn't a package
[12:02] <Tonren> Sivik: I feel like if you figure out how to get LINUX to mount the ISO as a CD-rom, wine will treat it like a CD too.
[12:02] <Sivik> yea
[12:02] <bimberi> !iso > Sivik
[12:02] <Sivik> i'm just trying to figure out how i did it last time
[12:02] <Tonren> !iso
[12:02] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:02] <Tonren> Oop, bimberi beat me to it.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> rixxon: its a driver
[12:02] <bimberi> :)
[12:02] <Lynoure> RawSewage: hmm, you might have .kde directory that overrides the file you remove... so removing might not have effect
[12:02] <Sivik> bimberi, thanks
[12:02] <Warbo> Tonren: Mounting ISO's is easy using the "loopback device", but that acts like a mounted CDROM, so you can't treat it like a real CDROM (you can't eject it for example)
[12:02] <Sivik> bimberi, thats what i was trying to remember
[12:02] <rixxon> gnomefreak: correct
[12:03] <bimberi> Sivik: np :)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> rixxon: i have ipw2100 in repos
[12:03] <Lynoure> RawSewage: s/remove/removed
[12:03] <Tonren> Warbo: Badass.
[12:03] <leboff> anyone have experience with v4l and/or capture cards that can help me out real quick?
[12:03] <Warbo> "sudo mount /path/to/image.iso /path/to/mountpoint -o loop"
[12:03] <RawSewage> Lynoure,  bash: s/remove/removed: No such file or directory
[12:03] <Lynoure> RawSewage: possibly also the file you copied in.
[12:03] <rixxon> gnomefreak: i have ipw2100-sources in repos
[12:03] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:03] <Lynoure> RawSewage: It was a typo fix, not a command :)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> i know
[12:04] <io> hi there.
[12:04] <Lynoure> RawSewage: read the commend above it
[12:04] <RawSewage> Lynoure, oh lol
[12:04] <rixxon> gnomefreak: but is there no command to read about your kernel modules?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> rixxon: where did you get the driver from?
[12:04] <Tonren> leboff: I tried to use my PCMCIA AV capture card with Ubuntu, and it ruined everything, ever, such that I wept myself to sleep for a week straight.
[12:04] <gnomefreak> rixxon: modprobe maybe?
[12:04] <RawSewage> Lynoure, I see what youre saying
[12:04] <Tonren> leboff: Sorry I'm not more helpful. ;P
[12:04] <Lynoure> RawSewage: I'm really sleepy, hence the typos (or so I like to think)
[12:04] <mikere> kristian: sudo allows you to become another user like root for exampe
[12:04] <mikere> kristian: init 0 means shut down the computer
[12:04] <rixxon> gnomefreak: i didn't do anything personally, either it came with something or it came with ubuntu...
[12:04] <garryF> yallaman did removing xgl/compiz break something. If so, I need to know so I don't give that advice again.
[12:04] <Tonren> RawSewage: the "s/x/y/" thing is a Vi (text editor) command that replaces x with y.
[12:04] <gnomefreak> rixxon: try modprobe
[12:05] <leboff> Tonren: its alright.. i havent slept trying to get this crap to work
[12:05] <leboff> never buying CompUSA brand anything ever again..
[12:05] <RawSewage> oh
[12:05] <Tonren> leboff: AV capture cards, especially PCMCIA ones (I don't know what you're using) are so poorly made and documented that I doubt they'll ever work with Ubuntu.
[12:05] <yallaman> all works now..didnt remove glx/compiz... just tried to reinstall and stuff..and suddenly all was ok
[12:06] <Lynoure> RawSewage: but now I'll go and sleep. Let me know ( /msg works always) if you get your problem solved.
[12:06] <garryF> yallaman Wow, awesome! Grats!
[12:06] <RawSewage> Lynoure, ok ty
[12:06] <Tonren> Hey guys, I've definitely installed Japanese language support, but I have these filenames that still show up as gobbledegook.
[12:06] <Inferus> Hiya All
[12:06] <rixxon> gnomefreak: i was looking at modprobe, but not sure what options to use...
[12:06] <Tonren> Anyone have experience installing Japanese language?
[12:06] <Inferus> I am having problems with ubuntu/x-server
[12:06] <BIAF> warbo : any webmin experance
[12:06] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I have made the changes you suggested to /etc/apt/sources.list . What now?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> rixxon: there s acommand im trying to remember atm
[12:06] <leboff> Tonren: mines just a regular  PCI card, but it still doesnt work in linux, barely works in windows for that matter
[12:07] <gnomefreak> regionalp: save adn close it
[12:07] <regionalp> gnomefreak: done
[12:07] <gnomefreak> regionalp: than type sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <yallaman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16395 my xorg.conf now..i have no idea what went wrong tho..im just happy it works
[12:07] <Inferus> I am having problems with ubuntu/x-server. I need to get the option nopowerconnectorcheck working, as i am just getting a big crash on my screen when X starts. Anyone able to help me out please?
[12:07] <rixxon> gnomefreak: ok :)
[12:07] <thespore> RawSewage, on a side-note.. never use commands that you don't know ;)
[12:08] <RawSewage> good advice
[12:08] <regionalp> gnomefreak: that worked, now what?
[12:08] <garryF> yallaman: Yeah, bugs have away of going away without giving a clue why they came. Glad you got it fixed anway.
[12:08] <patrick_king> hello all how do i test 3d acceleration in ubuntu dapper i have a intel 830m graphic card in my laptop
[12:08] <gnomefreak> regionalp: install what you were trying for
[12:08] <klees> is this ok?  i get this error when i do:
[12:08] <klees> $ modprobe hwmon
[12:08] <klees> FATAL: Module hwmon not found.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rixxon: lsmod
[12:08] <Versed> ms/join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <garryF> glxgears -printfps
[12:08] <rixxon> gnomefreak: been there, done that... :P doesn't show version
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rixxon: man lsmod?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rixxon: i dont know
[12:09] <rixxon> lsmod|grep ipw2200  => ipw2200               107308  0
[12:10] <Inferus> I am having problems with ubuntu/x-server. I need to get the option nopowerconnectorcheck working, as i am just getting a big crash on my screen when X starts. Anyone able to help me out please?
[12:10] <garryF> GarryF.mind ... Object nof found!
[12:10] <ToHellWithGA> Knome: thanks.  #apache is full of helpful folks
[12:11] <sn00p> I'm trying to install zsnes and its askign for zlib and I already have zlibc installed and the ./configure        still gives me errors anybody can help me?
[12:11] <RawSewage> This FAQ doesnt work [12:11] <crimsun_> rixxon: grep -i ipw /var/log/dmesg
[12:11] <RawSewage> sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[12:11] <RawSewage> sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[12:11] <RawSewage> doesnt work
[12:11] <arigo> gparted let me take the ntfs partition and resize it to a smaller amount, then put 35 gigs as unassigned, however, it won't let me add any of that space to the root partition even though i'm doing it in livecd unmounted
[12:11] <arigo> what gives?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> RawSewage: try help.ubuntu.com
[12:12] <RawSewage> Ive been looking all over the place
[12:12] <gnomefreak> RawSewage: before you ask it has kubuntu help on the page ;)
[12:12] <RawSewage> I keep coming across threads with people that have the same problem, then no one replies to the question
[12:12] <RawSewage> Ive been all over Kubuntu help resources
[12:12] <AlienX> how do i enable colours in bash? I know I just have to edit my bash.rc file but I don't know exactly what to do
[12:12] <gnomefreak> AlienX: what terminal?
[12:13] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I get the exact same error message
[12:13] <gnomefreak> AlienX: you can change it per terminal
[12:13] <rixxon> crimsun_: thank you. does this mean i have version 1.1.1 of ipw2200? [17179596.136000]  ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.1
[12:13] <gnomefreak> regionalp: open that file again and paste the content to pastebin this time
[12:13] <AlienX> regionalp, i was thinking the main terminal (outside of X)
[12:13] <rixxon> crimsun_: sorry, im just abit confused right now :)
[12:13] <crimsun_> rixxon: yes.
[12:13] <regionalp> gnomefreak: pastebin?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> AlienX: tty cant have colors iirc
[12:13] <rixxon> crimsun_ & gnomefreak, thanks
[12:13] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:14] <AlienX> gnomefreak, hmm
[12:14] <regionalp> man
[12:14] <crimsun_> rixxon: modinfo ipw2200 |grep ^version
[12:14] <regionalp> I am going crazy here
[12:15] <carlfk> why does "apt-get install nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings" want to remove nvidia-glx?
[12:15] <arigo> gparted let me take the ntfs partition and resize it to a smaller amount, then put 35 gigs as unassigned, however, it won't let me add any of that space to the root partition even though i'm doing it in livecd unmounted. what gives?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> regionalp: just open the site that ubotu gave you run the command i gave you and copy and paste it to the website
[12:16] <rixxon> crimsun_: exactly what i was looking for, thanks bigtime
[12:16] <crimsun_> carlfk: they're for older versions of the nvidia drivers.
[12:16] <arigo> it lets me resize it and shrink it, just not add any of the unassigned
[12:16] <arigo> makes no sense to me
[12:16] <carlfk> crimsun_: thanks.
[12:16] <da_putzler> hi peeps
[12:16] <Inferus> ugh why doesnt nvidia 6800 work with ubuntu
[12:16] <da_putzler> does anyone know how to do a file-search in xubuntu ??? I cannot seem to find it anywhere
[12:17] <garryF> places/search for files
[12:17] <garryF> oops, nm that's gnome
[12:17] <da_putzler> lol, exactly :)
[12:17] <garryF> its a locate command, I've seen it in kde somewhere in the menu
[12:18] <da_putzler> you'd think theyd add a basic function like file/search into xfce or xubuntu package
[12:18] <garryF> switching to kde brb
[12:18] <regionalp> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16396
[12:18] <carlfk> Inferus: define 'doesn't work"
[12:19] <Inferus> carlfk: when I boot up, i get a screen of glitches
[12:19] <Inferus> and nothing more
[12:19] <Inferus> but i can hear the ubuntu desktop 'intro' theme through my headset
[12:19] <Inferus> i have a 6800 GS, and i have heard there is problems with this card and xserver
[12:20] <Inferus> and i need binary drivers or someting
[12:20] <Inferus> something*
[12:20] <garryF> Sec Inferus
[12:20] <Inferus> ok :>
[12:20] <Inferus> i looked at the ubuntu website, but it only describes doing in X
[12:20] <Inferus> not helpful, when you dont have X ;)
[12:21] <Inferus> i've been trying for a week straight now to get a linux machine up and running lol
[12:21] <garryF> !nvidia > Inferus
[12:21] <mikere> Inferus: agreed - I still don't know how to get ubuntu to boot up to command line only in multiuser mode
[12:21] <Inferus> garryF: it only says how to do it in X
[12:21] <Inferus> i cant figure it out
[12:22] <regionalp> gnomefreak: nevermind about the pastebin... I just selected oidentd instead of identd, and it worked: Starting ident daemon: oidentd.
[12:22] <carlfk> Inferus: so you don't want X and all the apps?
[12:23] <garryF> Inferus Yeah, it works with gnome too. Its addressing the underlying xserver.
[12:23] <mikere> carlfk: he can't get x to load properly
[12:23] <regionalp> gnomefreak: so does this mean that oidentd will always run?
[12:24] <mikere> garryF: he can't get into gnome - it glitches out on him.  He needs a way to get to command line only - but not single user since the nvidia driver won't install in single user
[12:24] <Inferus> ^^
[12:24] <Inferus> to actually get ubuntu installed
[12:24] <garryF> Inferus Try easybuntu its on the net
[12:24] <Inferus> i had to run it on gfx safemode
[12:24] <crimsun_> just change /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:25] <Inferus> and, i have to use a contineous space partition, since it didn't like my hdd either
[12:25] <Inferus> to what ?
[12:25] <garryF> mikere Yeah, easybuntu might help with that.
[12:25] <crimsun_> anything but what it currently is.
[12:25] <bhamgray> Will the vesa drivers not work temporarily for the Nvidia card?
[12:25] <crimsun_> change it back when you've finished installing the drivers.
[12:25] <Ackeubu_> Anyone knows if ubuntu usually detects media card readers? of if one have to install drivers for them? i carry a PCIxx12 integrated media controller from texas instrument
[12:26] <zoggynog> anyone here able to get SPDIF working in dapper...I need some help
[12:26] <Inferus> ok
[12:26] <Inferus> using the vesa driver, i can get a x-server working fine
[12:26] <crazy_penguin> good night everyone. sleep well :)
[12:26] <bhamgray> gconf didn't take care of the 'hang'?
[12:26] <ardchoille> Ackeubu_: I have a 6-in-1 reader and plugged it in and it worked.
[12:26] <garryF> inferus If you can get to this url it shows you some command lines to get nvidia driver installed and other commonly needed things. http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/
[12:27] <Inferus> hmm ok thanks
[12:27] <enterusername> Hi all is the quota option for printers broken on ubuntu
[12:27] <Inferus> i can yea, im on my XP laptop :>
[12:27] <enterusername> im trying this   lpadmin -p danka_infotec -o job-quota-period=300 -o -o job-page-limit=8
[12:27] <enterusername> and it doesnt appear to be working i want to erk
[12:27] <enterusername> there's only one -o
[12:27] <garryF> welcome, its short fortunately, so you can print it out or just scribble it down.
[12:27] <enterusername> So it should print 10 pages every 5 mins and thats it
[12:28] <enterusername> but it still can print... is this a bug in ubuntu's cups?
[12:28] <Ackeubu_> ardchoille you jsut plug in youre card and you find it? or you have to mount it?
[12:28] <nekostar> sigh
[12:28] <mikere> Inferus: if you can get working with vesa driver then you should be able to install the nvidia proprietary driver
[12:28] <bhamgray> mikere: That's what I was thinking - get in and use ndiswrapper or something
[12:28] <MrRio> hey
[12:29] <shay> folks, isn't there a way to install Ubuntu from console?
[12:29] <finalbeta> is Xchat gnome diffrend from the normal Xchat? Because I can't seem to find how to auth after connecting to a server.
[12:29] <MrRio> Is there anything like 'yakuake' for gnome?
[12:29] <ardchoille> Ackeubu_: I plugged in the card and it was automounted
[12:29] <bhamgray> finalbeta: In Ubunt the Gnome frontend is 'simplified'
[12:29] <MrRio> It's a terminal that slides down from the top of your screen when you hit F12
[12:29] <finalbeta> crippeled :p
[12:30] <Ackeubu_> ardchoille cool
[12:30] <bimberi> shay: alternate CD has the text-mode installer
[12:30] <Inferus> mikere: I am on a desktop now using vesa :>
[12:30] <bhamgray> finalbeta: You can use Synaptics to uninstall that one and install the 'real' X Chat instead
[12:30] <finalbeta> ok, cu in 5 mins then. yep
[12:30] <garryF> LarryDarrylandDarrylFied
[12:30] <shay> bimberi, I see, thanks
[12:30] <bimberi> shay: yw
[12:31] <mikere> Inferus: did you try installing nvidia-glx?
[12:31] <Raito> How do you delete ubuntu? I want to reinstall it to reset the partition tables because the only program I know that can successfully resize an ntfs partition is the ubuntu installer >_>
[12:31] <Ackeubu_> ardchoille well my sd cards are not found.. >(
[12:31] <bhamgray> Raito: You won't have to delete it, just use the installer disc again
[12:31] <Ackeubu_> ardchoille at least not mounted in media
[12:32] <Raito> The old ubuntu won't be in the system anymore?
[12:32] <mikere> Raito: just reinstall and customize the partitions during install
[12:32] <Raito> ok
[12:32] <nekostar> anyone run dual monitors here in gnome ?
[12:32] <bhamgray> Raito: No, not if you install it in the same partition or delete the old partition
[12:33] <Ackeubu_> anyone has tips on how to get IR to work?
[12:33] <nekostar> 3[12:33] <mikere> Inferus: alternately you could try installing the nvidia proprietary driver from nvidia.com
[12:33] <ardchoille> Ackeubu_: run mount and see if they're listed
[12:33] <nekostar> hell no
[12:33] <nekostar> who's having trouble with the nvidia drivers
[12:33] <nekostar> ill help
[12:33] <mikere> Inferus: although I ahven't done that myself yet
[12:33] <nekostar> :)
[12:34] <garryF> If he is using dapper, they won't work.
[12:34] <mikere> nekostar: Inferus is
[12:34] <nekostar> Inferus, u>?
[12:34] <nekostar> lets walk through it
[12:34] <mikere> garryF: really?
[12:34] <nekostar> first which modle nvidia
[12:34] <garryF> I say, use that easybuntu thing and that will fix it up likely.
[12:34] <Ackeubu_> ardchoille dont seem to be you on notebook?
[12:34] <nekostar> do NOT install the ones from nvidia direct
[12:34] <garryF> mikere yeah, went through the mill with that.
[12:34] <ardchoille> Ackeubu_: nope, desktop
[12:35] <nekostar> from dpkg over in #debian: dpkg DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..."  - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists
[12:35] <nekostar> :)
[12:35] <mikere> garryF: what is the problem with them?  My problem was htey complained they wanted to be in console multiuser with no X running, hwich doesn't seem to exist in ubuntu ><
[12:35] <ompaul> !nvidia
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <Inferus> lmao
[12:35] <Flannel> mikere: it does exist, you just stop GDM from starting, and you get nothing but consoles
[12:35] <Inferus> really screwed up my ubuntu now i think heehee
[12:36] <mikere> Flannel: so killall gmd and then ctrl-alt-backspace?
[12:36] <mikere> er... gdm rather
[12:36] <garryF> mikere Seems the drivers were compiled with different version of the gcc compiler than the kernel put out with Ubuntu, and so they won't play nice together.
[12:37] <Inferus> more beta testing would be good :(
[12:37] <benoy> hello, can anyone tell me how I can install themes downloaded from websites?
[12:37] <Inferus> erm fantastic
[12:37] <Inferus> it appears to be working...
[12:37] <Inferus> :>
[12:37] <bhamgray> Inferus: Your problems aren't Linux or Ubuntu's fault - it's more like Nvidias
[12:37] <Inferus> mm
[12:37] <Inferus> ubuntu give me the disc image, and it doesnt work ;/
[12:37] <garryF> Glad it's working at least.
[12:38] <Inferus> yaaaaaaaaay
[12:38] <ompaul> mikere, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:38] <Inferus> thanks for your help <3 :D
[12:38] <Inferus> ubuntu has survived being formatted off muahahah :>
[12:38] <mikere> ompaul: thanks
[12:38] <benoy> anyone know how to install themes?
[12:38] <BIAF> any sendmail/webmin experts around
[12:38] <garryF> Somehow this reminds me of the saying ... Give a man a program and you frustrate them for a day. Teach a man to program and you frustrate them for a lifetime.
[12:39] <Xenguy> heh
[12:39] <Inferus> my job is programming so i know what you mean ;/
[12:39] <Inferus> but its also, a sense of achievement when things go right too
[12:39] <Inferus> woooo 1059kb/s on my update :>
[12:39] <garryF> I'm looking for a new job. Mine of ten years was taken over and shut down via hostile takeover.
[12:40] <mikere> garryF: I teach programming, lol
[12:40] <Xenguy> garryF: nice
[12:40] <bhamgray> benoy: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[12:40] <garryF> mikere hehe
[12:40] <Xenguy> garryF: that's certainly hostile
[12:40] <garryF> mikere I bet its fun sometimes to teach programming.
[12:40] <Inferus> hmmm
[12:41] <ompaul> people can we take the chat to the channel  #ubuntu-offtopic this channel being solely for support thanks
[12:41] <Inferus> it feels as though the doors have opened now for me to learn ubuntu ^_^
[12:41] <garryF> Yeah. /slaps self
[12:41] <Xenguy> ompaul: sorry about that chief - my focus drifted for a moment :-)
[12:41] <garryF> One correction is sufficient.
[12:41] <mikere> garryF: much more fun since I switched to teaching java from c++.  High school kids have problems with c/c++
[12:41] <bhamgray> Congrads, Inferus
[12:42] <Inferus> lol
[12:42] <Inferus> thx
[12:42] <Inferus> c++ and java arent too dissimilar
[12:42] <BCK14> how do you edit your firewall in ubuntu ?
[12:42] <Inferus> both OOP ;/
[12:42] <mikere> no.. except memory management =)
[12:42] <BCK14> !firewall
[12:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[12:42] <bit_doidao> hi! does anyone knows a way to put a web interface to the an irc channel?
[12:43] <mikere> bit_doidao: I think there are java applets that can do it, don't know names off hand tho
[12:43] <spades> maybe jpilot
[12:43] <bit_doidao> mikere, this could be a good thing for making a better support for ubuntu beginners
[12:44] <patrick_king> !wine
[12:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:44] <carlfk> can I setup 2 grub choices: one for binary nvidia, one for 'stock' ?
[12:45] <patrick_king> what is the name of the wine tool
[12:45] <wastrel> do you need to reboot to change video drivers?
[12:45] <carlfk> well, one for restrircted, one for non
[12:45] <patrick_king> apt-get one
[12:46] <wastrel> bit_doidao:  there are java based irc clients
[12:46] <mikere> wastrel: no, you can just hit ctrl-alt-backspace to reload x usually
[12:46] <carlfk> wastrel: no, but it might be easier than the rmmod / insmod game I am playing
[12:46] <bit_doidao> wastrel, im trying http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/
[12:46] <wastrel> so write a script to do it carl :] 
[12:46] <carlfk> mikere: but there is some module that is loaded as part of the boot
[12:47] <carlfk> wastrel: I am not sure what all gets loaded from /lib/linux-restricted-modules/
[12:47] <Inferus> hmmm
[12:48] <Inferus> now i have ubuntu, what to do :>
[12:48] <carlfk> Inferus: read e-mail
[12:48] <BIAF> get rid of windows
[12:48] <Inferus> heh heh
[12:48] <DarkMageZ> Inferus, play Frozen-Bubble ^-^
[12:49] <patrick_king> can any one tell me how to install this http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=669&DwnldID=8203&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng
[12:49] <dooglus> bit_doidao: cgiirc lets you IRC from a web page, but it's not java
[12:50] <martibs> how can I make windows be "on top of" the gnome-panel?
[12:50] <martibs> I want acroread in fullscreen without the panel showing
[12:51] <carlfk> martibs: how about if it was the default?
[12:51] <wastrel> you can make the panel autohide
[12:51] <bhamgray> patrick_king: Did you look and see if ndiswrapper supported this card?
[12:51] <mikere> Inferus: hang out in #ubuntu and try to answer questions!
[12:51] <bhamgray> patrick_king: Scratch that -
[12:51] <Inferus> i'll try Mika_i_
[12:51] <Inferus> mikere*
[12:51] <Inferus> but im a windows server administrator normally ;/
[12:51] <bhamgray> It's a linux driger
[12:52] <carlfk> martibs: how about if it was the default: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and look for the DEFAULT= line - change it to ... 5 or whatever ilne windows is
[12:52] <Inferus> hmm
[12:52] <Inferus> how do i get wmv support in linux firefox :)
[12:52] <BCK14> !smb
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about smb
[12:52] <wastrel> hello
[12:52] <BCK14> !samba
[12:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:53] <mwe> !tell Inferus about restricted
[12:53] <paracelx> can someone help me xubuntu will not install. Keeps saying tty job control turned off and gives me acpi error beforehand
[12:53] <mwe> ubotu: tell Inferus about restricted
[12:53] <bhamgray> Inferus: You can't
[12:53] <Inferus> ? :S
[12:54] <mwe> wmv works here with mplayer-plugin in firefox
[12:54] <pepinito> hi
[12:54] <pepinito> which is the easyest way of sharing a printer?
[12:54] <bhamgray> mwe: Really? I've NEVER gotten the Totem or Mplayer ones to work
[12:54] <martibs> carlfk: I'm not talking about windows as in "Windows", the software, but "windows" as in the plural form of "window"
[12:55] <Lobster> gn8
[12:55] <mwe> bhamgray: really! just installing the codecs and the plugin did the trick
[12:55] <patrick_king> how do iuse a .sh file
[12:55] <mwe> patrick_king: sh foo.sh
[12:55] <Lobster> patrick_king, in terminal sh file.sh
[12:55] <bhamgray> sh file.sh
[12:55] <carlfk> martibs: um.. im soorry - what was the question? :)
[12:55] <yallaman> anyone have a suggestion for a swift and light window manger? would also like if it had a fresh look and easy to use
[12:56] <carlfk> yallaman: /join #xubuntu
[12:56] <ardchoille> yallaman: http://xwinman.org
[12:56] <ardchoille> yallaman: There are many: Fluxbox, blackbox, openbox, WindowMaker, etc.
[12:56] <Xenguy> yallaman: xfce
[12:56] <yallaman> whats the most used then?
[12:56] <PacketScan> yallaman, fluxbox is nice and simple , clean
[12:57] <martibs> carlfk: how to make windows apear over the panel (in fullscreen)
[12:57] <ardchoille> yallaman: Damn Small Linux uses Fluxbox by default. It's small, fast and easy to use, IMHO.
[12:58] <ipfw> anyone in here cp dvds, I sucked it down with dvdbackup, and just made an iso with mkisofs .. Then burnt it with k3b, seems something in my process is wrong
[12:58] <ardchoille> ipfw: I like dvdrip
[12:58] <tommie-> what do i install to add 32bit compatibility on a 64bit hoary system
[12:59] <ipfw> ardchoille:  does it do full disc-to-disc copies ... instead of just mpeg4 rips ?
[12:59] <ardchoille> ipfw: I don't know, I just know it works well :)
[12:59] <ipfw> ardchoille:  you have never burnt a full normal dvd movie with it though ?
[01:00] <ardchoille> ipfw: yes, several in fact
[01:00] <yallaman> ok..fluxbox..is there a apt-get way installing it?
[01:00] <codecaine> yes
[01:00] <codecaine> apt-get install fluxbox
[01:00] <dooglus> yallaman: yes.  the package is called 'fluxbox'...
[01:00] <Inferus> Why do i get this error when I do a ./configure.... "C++ compiler cannot create executables"
[01:01] <dooglus> Inferus: you're missing a package or two.  Install 'build-essential'
[01:01] <Inferus> k
[01:01] <ipfw> ardchoille:  thanks man
[01:01] <ardchoille> ipfw: yw :)
[01:01] <Inferus> ty dooglus
[01:02] <carlfk> martibs: ah - no clue
[01:02] <xenex> anyone know the current version for win4lin?
[01:02] <ardchoille> yallaman: If you're gonna use Fluxbox, you might also wanna look into using fbdesk, fbpager, and fluxconf ..  they enhance the fluxbox experience :)
[01:02] <Inferus> doh
[01:02] <Inferus> now i need firefox development files
[01:02] <yallaman> i did install those too
[01:02] <dooglus> xenex: from what I've read the old win98 version worked a lot bewtter
[01:03] <ardchoille> yallaman: cool :)
[01:03] <yallaman> i just hope it dosent take too long to learn:p
[01:03] <dooglus> Inferus: you don't need them to run fluxbox
[01:03] <xenex> dooglus: I meant what version of Win4Lin is the latest.
[01:03] <patrick_king> can anyone help me install an itel 830m driver
[01:03] <dooglus> xenex: I don't know.  I stopped using it a long time ago.
[01:03] <patrick_king> intel^
[01:03] <Inferus> dooglus: im not running fluxbox!
[01:03] <caleb> anyone knokw of a good online tutorial for installing a slave hd in ubuntu
[01:03] <dooglus> Inferus: yes, sorry, I misread.
[01:03] <Inferus> np :?
[01:03] <Inferus> :>
[01:03] <Inferus> I need them to do a ./configure
[01:04] <xenex> dooglus: What do you use now?
[01:04] <patrick_king> i keep getting this message. compiler is not available to compile modules, aborting....
[01:04] <dooglus> Inferus: if you need firefox dev packages, add them by: 1. edit /etc/apt/source.list, adding a 'deb-src' line for each 'deb' line; 2. sudo apt-get update; 3. sudo apt-get build-dep firefox
[01:04] <caleb> yes/no?
[01:04] <mikere> caleb: don't know of a tutorial, but it should be relatively straightforward
[01:05] <mwe> patrick_king: you probably need the right gcc version to compile a kernel module. cat /proc/version well show which one you need
[01:05] <dooglus> xenex: I used to need win4lin because I needed an IE-only site.  The site now works with firefox, so I use that.
[01:05] <Inferus> ty dooglus
[01:05] <yallaman> btw..im using xchat now.. is there a way to save my channels and such..so it starts up with this server and chan?
[01:05] <mwe> patrick_king: the version needs to match the one the kernel was compiled with
[01:05] <patrick_king> cat /proc/version
[01:05] <mikere> caleb: have you physically installed the drive?
[01:05] <mwe> patrick_king: you need to type it in a terminal :)
[01:05] <caleb> yeah
[01:05] <caleb> i installed the hd
[01:05] <mikere> caleb: internal or external drive?
[01:05] <caleb> internal
[01:05] <caleb> but heres the thing
[01:06] <caleb> i fdisk'd it
[01:06] <ardchoille> yallaman: Talk to Hawkwind in #lfd, he can set you up with XChat stuff :)
[01:06] <caleb> and formatted it
[01:06] <caleb> and mounted it
[01:06] <patrick_king> it says gcc version 4.0.3
[01:06] <caleb> and all that and made it work
[01:06] <mikere> caleb: click System --> administration --> disks
[01:06] <caleb> then i installed a 250 gig
[01:06] <mwe> patrick_king: and what does gcc --version say?
[01:06] <ScreaminIke> lets say that i'm having a squid issue.... like... i get this error every time i try to run it...
[01:06] <ScreaminIke> what do i do?
[01:06] <caleb> and it made my 300g go away
[01:06] <caleb> well all i have is cli
[01:06] <caleb> its a server box
[01:06] <caleb> no gui
[01:07] <patrick_king> gcc --version   bash: gcc: command not found
[01:07] <mikere> caleb: ah, so you have to manually mount it or get it auto mounted in /etc/fstab
[01:07] <mwe> patrick_king: install build-essential if you haven't done so
[01:07] <caleb> automounted?
[01:07] <mwe> patrick_king: I think you haven't
[01:08] <mwe> patrick_king: that will get the compiler and friends
[01:08] <mikere> caleb: I don't know the internals of fstab but you can tell it to automatically mount drives on boot up
[01:08] <Protocol2> yo
[01:08] <caleb> i see
[01:08] <patrick_king> nwe: cheers i will give that ago
[01:08] <Protocol2> can people see my chat text?
[01:08] <dooglus> Protocol2: yes
[01:08] <caleb> yeah
[01:08] <Inferus> bleh
[01:08] <Protocol2> ok cool
[01:08] <mikere> caleb: it's one of those things I use a gui for if I have to and read my ass off to figure out if it's not available
[01:08] <Inferus> dooglus, doesnt work l.
[01:08] <Inferus> ;/
[01:08] <Inferus> installed the build-dep's
[01:08] <caleb> yeah its complicated for me
[01:08] <mwe> patrick_king: you'll probably need linux-headers-$(uname -r) as well
[01:08] <caleb> im new to linux
[01:08] <Inferus> but it stil says i dont have them
[01:08] <caleb> so
[01:09] <patrick_king> caleb: i got my wireless card working in the end i just updated to dapper and it worked straight away
[01:09] <malachi>  How can I create a link to a directory so all the files in that directory will be in the current directory?
[01:09] <malachi> For example, after upgrading Democracy, I have a ~/Movies/Democracy  and a   ~/.democracy/Movies directory. How can I link them so all in ./democracy are in Movies/Democracy, or vice versa?
[01:09] <caleb> maybe i should do that
[01:09] <caleb> thanks mikere and patrick_king
[01:09] <dooglus> Inferus: what's the error exactly?
[01:09] <mwe> malachi: ln -s
[01:09] <caleb> ill read up more
[01:09] <Inferus> "Unable to find mozilla or firefox development files"
[01:09] <caleb> later
[01:09] <patrick_king> caleb: you told me to update and it sorted it for me
[01:09] <mikere> caleb: read up on fstab - as long as you have your hard drive installed properly with master/slave right, you should be able to get it working np.
[01:09] <ElBrujo> how can i make a new partition without formating?
[01:10] <carlfk> ElBrujo: yes.  but what are you trying to do?
[01:10] <dooglus> Inferus: odd.  where did you get the firefox sources?
[01:10] <Inferus> ermm
[01:10] <ElBrujo> carlfk i want make a partition in my actual ubuntu disk
[01:11] <Inferus> gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted...
[01:11] <ElBrujo> but i dont want reinstall
[01:11] <carlfk> ElBrujo: you can resize it
[01:11] <ubuntu_> somebody know how i can be root in a LIVE CD of my ubuntu
[01:11] <rixxon> gnome-bluetooth-manager fails to start, i get cryptic python errors
[01:11] <ubuntu_> please
[01:11] <Inferus> ubuntu_
[01:11] <Inferus> sudo passwd
[01:11] <ompaul> !root
[01:11] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:11] <Dial_tone> sudo passwd
[01:11] <Inferus> and set a root pw
[01:12] <ubuntu_> thank u
[01:12] <Inferus> np
[01:12] <mwe> how about just sudo -i
[01:12] <ompaul> Inferus, we don't tell people that - reading that web page is more recomended
[01:12] <rixxon> or just sudo -s/-i
[01:12] <mwe> that's the usual ubuntu way of getting a root prompt
[01:12] <ElBrujo> how can i resize?
[01:12] <ompaul> rixxon, -i is the suggested one
[01:12] <rixxon> ompaul: i use both depending on the situation ;)
[01:13] <Inferus> oh right ok ompaul
[01:13] <Inferus> :)
[01:13] <Inferus> but he did say he wanted root access ;/
[01:13] <benoy> can someone help me install themes in xubuntu, no one was able to help me from #xubuntu
[01:13] <dooglus> Inferus: are you sure?  there's nothing in dapper-backports yet is there?
[01:13] <mwe> Infecto: sudo -i will give him root access
[01:13] <Inferus> im positive
[01:13] <Inferus> im sat with my laptop (the one im talking to you on) next to my linux box
[01:14] <yeti> hi - what does kde need gam_server for? it frequently eats lots of cpu during any file transfers/hdd access. can i disable it?
[01:14] <Inferus> read it of one screen and stuck it on another ;)
[01:14] <gnomefreak> benoy: try xfce-look.org or apt-cache search themes in terminal
[01:14] <faki3> hey, I found out how to get ride of those crappy metacity maximize / minimize lines  :D
[01:14] <benoy> ok
[01:14] <dooglus> Inferus: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.gz is empty...
[01:14] <ardchoille> faki3: gconf-editor -> /apps/metacity/general ?
[01:14] <dooglus> faki3: did you find a way of doing it which still lets you see window contents when you move the window?
[01:14] <mwe> dooglus: I don't think anything is backported to dapper yet
[01:14] <Inferus> hmmmm
[01:15] <faki3> anyone know if 2.6.17 is going to be backported?
[01:15] <Inferus> well it installed dooglus!
[01:15] <dooglus> mwe: neither do I
[01:15] <TheBlunderbuss> Howdy
[01:15] <Inferus> dooglus, it definately did it ;s
[01:15] <mwe> faki3: do you need it?
[01:15] <ardchoille> dooglus: chaning the buttons in the gconf-editor will let you see window contents while moving :)
[01:15] <dooglus> Inferus: it installed, but not from dapper-backports, I'd guess
[01:15] <faki3> mwe:  sure
[01:15] <rixxon> faki3: i heard it is not going to be in the dapper repos
[01:16] <dooglus> ardchoille: I think there's a single option which controls both whether to show contents on move, and whether to draw annoying 'zoom' lines of iconify
[01:16] <mwe> faki3: well personally I get my kernels from kernel.org anyway. I don't think kernels are backported
[01:16] <rixth_> Why is wget trying to use a proxy? Connecting to 127.0.0.1:8080... failed: Connection refused.
[01:16] <rixxon> rixth_: environment variable set?
[01:16] <dooglus> rixth_: gconf setting?
[01:17] <rixth_> rixxon, how would I unset it
[01:17] <faki3> okay, that's cool
[01:17] <roostishaw> how can I compile c source code to run under windows?
[01:17] <faki3> I'm just looking for the lazy way, he he
[01:17] <mwe> I think wget is oblivious to gconf settings
[01:17] <dooglus> rixth_: look in the configuration editor, under system->proxy
[01:17] <roostishaw> from ubuntu I mean
[01:18] <dooglus> mwe: I think (but I'm not sure) that the proxy gconf setting sets an environment variable, which wget uses
[01:18] <malachi> mwe: I tried ln -s ~/.democracy ~/Movies/Democracy but files exist.
[01:18] <krazykit> roostishaw: mingw, i think
[01:18] <krazykit> roostishaw: or minigw, i don't recall which is correct
[01:18] <roostishaw> krazykit, ill look into it, thans!
[01:18] <mwe> dooglus: maybe so
[01:18] <rixth_> dooglus, some options were set, I unset them. Saem error.
[01:18] <krazykit> roostishaw: http://www.mingw.org/
[01:19] <patrick_king> mwe: linux-headers-$(uname -r) doesnt work for me
[01:19] <mwe> rixth_: wget --no-proxy
[01:19] <dooglus> malachi: move all the files from ~/Movies/Democracy into ~/.democracy and remove the newly empty dir before running that ln command
[01:19] <mwe> rixth_: your current terminal will probably use the same settings
[01:19] <rixth_> mwe, that's just a hack- other applications are not working too. I need t fix it, not a bandaid :(
[01:19] <mwe> rixth_: type env|grep -i proxy
[01:19] <rixth_> Alright, I'll open a new one
[01:19] <rixth_> Ah indeed, I see it.
[01:19] <dooglus> mwe: it'll be OK next time you log in, I reckon.  maybe even next time you start a terminal
[01:20] <malachi> Ah!
[01:20] <dooglus> um - that was for rixth_
[01:20] <malachi> dooglus: Thanks.
[01:20] <mwe> rixth_: wget only uses a proxy if *_proxy is set
[01:20] <Alethes> is there a document that explains how to get jabberd configured for ubuntu?
[01:20] <mwe> dooglus: if it did in fact unset *_proxy, yes
[01:21] <roostishaw> krazykit, is it in the repos? it dosn't look it...
[01:21] <TheBlunderbuss> what are some good ubuntu repositories?
[01:21] <patrick_king> mwe: linux-headers gives me a list what do i do
[01:21] <rixth_> Another question: when using TwinView, is there anyway I can have panels on both screens?
[01:21] <mwe> Alethes: maybe japperd comes with documentation
[01:21] <mwe> Alethes: most packages do
[01:21] <Alethes> found it on the wiki
[01:22] <dooglus> patrick_king: linux-headers-$(uname-r)
[01:23] <mwe> uname -r not uname-r
[01:23] <dooglus> yes
[01:23] <patrick_king> arh now it working
[01:24] <MrDade> Good evening everyone
[01:25] <ardchoille> MrDade: hi
[01:25] <tulku> MrDade, good evening
[01:26] <tulku> Hi! I'm having problems suspending a laptop. I think it is related to having proceses in D. Is this true? Is there a way to dring them back to life?
[01:26] <grimboy> Urgh, I don't understand this samba stuff. It worked fine in 5.04
[01:26] <TheBlunderbuss> As a new Ubuntu user, what repositories should I have?
[01:26] <grimboy> But now this autoconfig came in and stuff.
[01:27] <MrDade> *?* Crash Problems >  For some reason Ubuntu has crashed on me twice since the last 30 minutes after I installed it on my computer.  I had to end up manually restarting the computer after the crash.  Anyone can help me out and suggest why this is happening?
[01:27] <Dial_tone> as a new user walk this page from top to bottom http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:27] <ic56> MrDade: laptop or desktop?
[01:27] <BSG75> anyone know why while using Azureus all popup warnings and such won't go away when I click hide?
[01:27] <MrDade> It mostly happens when I use the "terminal" application
[01:27] <MrDade> desktop
[01:28] <ic56> MrDade: define "crash".  What happens, exactly?
[01:28] <CrazyDoode> TheBlunderbuss: go into Synaptic and mess around in repositories
[01:29] <MrDade> ic56:  the computer just gets stuck, i cant move the mouse nor even "ctrl-alt-del"  i just have to push the button to restart... and it happen twice when i had the terminal application open trying to install adobe
[01:29] <igorzolnikov> Hi! Can i read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions in russian?
[01:29] <MrDade> but it happened before the install attempt
[01:29] <ic56> MrDade: what were you running inside the terminal?
[01:30] <dooglus> MrDade: control-alt-backspace usually gets you out of a locked-up X session
[01:30] <MrDade> well, after I have extrace the tar file, i tried to use the "INSTALL" command to install adobe
[01:30] <MrDade> *extracted
[01:31] <ic56> MrDade: what, exactly, was the last thing you were able to type?
[01:31] <patrick_king> im having trouble installing intel 830m graphic drivers http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16399 i have the build essentails
[01:31] <MrDade> the first time it crash it tried typing "INSTALL"
[01:31] <MrDade> and the second time it crashed i typed "install INSTALL"
[01:32] <MrDade> because the name of the script is INSTALL, but im new and im not sure im executing the right command for the script
[01:32] <ic56> MrDade: which script?
[01:32] <MrDade> a script named "INSTALL"  which was within the Adobe Reader tar file after i extracted it
[01:32] <MrDade> which is
[01:32] <Protocol2> MrDade, your suppose to use it like this sudo ./INSTALL
[01:33] <MrDade> doh
[01:33] <MrDade> i keep on forgetting the "sudo"
[01:33] <ic56> MrDade: and you didn't get an error message and a new command prompt?!
[01:33] <MrDade> yes i did
[01:33] <MrDade> but when i attempt it again
[01:33] <MrDade> the computer just got stuck
[01:33] <ic56> MrDade: was the error message "command not found" or something like that?
[01:33] <MrDade> im going to try it again, but the "sudo" way, brb, let me see if it works
[01:33] <MrDade> yes
[01:34] <ic56> MrDade: thta error message should occur repeatedly, no matter how many times you issue that command, since your syntax is incorrect.
[01:34] <mezoko> Hi
[01:35] <ic56> MrDade: if after repeating it, you computer freezes, I'm more likely to suspect a serious hardware problem (like bad RAM).
[01:35] <joseph> why does mplayer play only audio and no video with it??
[01:35] <MrDade> had windows on this machine and never did have a problem
[01:35] <ic56> MrDade: maybe windows never used some parts of your RAM.
[01:36] <MrDade> ok
[01:36] <TheBlunderbuss> maybe he needs more magic dust
[01:36] <ic56> MrDade: note the exact syntax that protocol2 gave you: sudo ./INSTALL  The "./" is significant.
[01:36] <ic56> MrDade: good luck
[01:37] <ic56> MrDade: do you know how to test your RAM?
[01:37] <MrDade> ic56: can you please show me
[01:37] <ic56> MrDade: reboot and, at the grub prompt, choose "memtest".
[01:37] <patrick_king> i keep getting this message "the dri drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules installtion will be aborted. see dri.log for infomation of what went wrong
[01:37] <patrick_king> linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:37] <patrick_king> dam
[01:38] <CrazyDoode> i'd say it's his video card.. what's your video card MrDade ?
[01:38] <patrick_king> here is the dri.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16399
[01:38] <MrDade> ic56:  where on the web can I look into documents/guides online for Linux security, virus protected, adware protect, and hack proof?
[01:39] <MrDade> I really want to learn the security fundamentals of linux
[01:39] <Pump> hi
[01:40] <Pump> i need some help to install a pinnacle pctv
[01:40] <morbidi> and now kubuntu freezes in my splash screen
[01:40] <morbidi> ups
[01:40] <ic56> MrDade: you won't find much on Linux security at that elementary level -- Linux isn't vulnerable to simplistic attacks of this kind.
[01:40] <morbidi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-c7e4a572c882d0ce742ab2d2243e594b842fdad0
[01:40] <morbidi> I followed this guide
[01:40] <morbidi> and now kubuntu freezes in my splash screen
[01:40] <morbidi> anyone has the same prob ?
[01:40] <Decoy_> does anyone know how to make a wan with ubuntu. I want to make it so someone can connect to my lan by IP
[01:40] <tulku> (sorry for repeating). I'm having problems suspending a notebook ( it logs this: stopping tasks failed (2 tasks remaining) ). And, I looked and I have 2 D proceseses... Is this related? How can I bring them back to life.
[01:40] <Decoy_> well it doenst have to be ubuntu
[01:40] <Decoy_> just anything free
[01:41] <patrick_king> how do i stop x-server
[01:41] <TheBlunderbuss> killall -9 Xorg
[01:41] <ic56> MrDade: to learn Linux security, start by reading the following man pages: chmod, ls, chown, sudo, sudoers, netstat
[01:42] <an0malist> How do install glibc on my machine?  I'm trying to use make and I get a bunch of errors.. someone told me glibc isn't installed ?
[01:42] <ParaSiteX> hey there. I have a samsung x20 notebook with the following graphic card: "Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller (i915)". It is a ati x600 mobile PCIe if I am not mistaken. My Problem is the resolution which is currently in 1024x768. The native resolution of my notebook is 1400x1050 though. But there are display-errors in this resolution. I have read the Hardware section of the desktopguide.pdf: 3d acceleration (direct rendering) is working
[01:42] <MrDade> how can I read them?
[01:42] <ic56> MrDade: respectively, they'll give you a taste of filesystem security, process security, and network security.  When you've read these, follow up on the references they mention at the bottom.
[01:43] <ic56> MrDade: from inside terminal, type "man chmod", to read the chmod manpage.
[01:43] <Furries> Any furries?
[01:43] <grimboy> Can anyone help me share some folders with samba. I'm using this smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16401
[01:43] <Pump> i need some help to install a pinnacle pctv
[01:43] <ParaSiteX> I had a gentoo release installed previously on my notebook, and the resoultion was correct at that time. I didn't need to configure anything.
[01:43] <Sivik> anyone here play sims in linux?
[01:44] <TheBlunderbuss> Sims + Linux = colossal waste of time
[01:44] <mertea> http://windows31rox.homeip.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu < humm?
[01:44] <MrDade> is there a command to list all the an's available?
[01:44] <MrDade> *  man's
[01:45] <Jowi> Decoy_: easiest way is to use vpn capable routers
[01:45] <Sivik> MrDade: the ubuntu forums
[01:45] <Decoy_> anyone know any games that will work on mac os 7.5 that doesnt require a cd
[01:45] <an0malist> glibc -- how do I know if its installed, and how do i install it if it is not?
[01:45] <Decoy_> It only has a floppy drive
[01:46] <Sivik> Decoy_, this is a linux channel, not a mac channel
[01:46] <Decoy_> screw you
[01:46] <funky> hi
[01:46] <ic56> MrDade: find /usr/share/man -type -f -print |less   There's thousands.
[01:46] <Jowi> Decoy_: actually, vpn routers is the only thing I have set up to connect two LANs together. don't know of anything more simple
[01:46] <Decoy_> well if its all inux like
[01:46] <Sivik> Decoy_, no thanks, you not my type
[01:46] <funky> How can I re-activate bash-completion on ubuntu ?
[01:46] <morbidi> use bash ?
[01:46] <Sivik> Decoy_, mac os 7.5 is not linux like
[01:46] <Jimmey__> funky: How did you de-activate it?
[01:46] <funky> Jimmey__: removing my $HOME
[01:46] <morbidi> funky: see in what shell you are
[01:46] <Jimmey__> :-S
[01:47] <morbidi> echo $SHELL
[01:47] <fanch> :join #ubuntu-fr
[01:47] <boabsta> Sivik: but they both end in "nix" surely they are the same no?
[01:47] <funky> funky@skunk:~$ echo $SHELL
[01:47] <funky> /bin/bash
[01:47] <Decoy_> Sivik, you have no friends
[01:47] <ic56> MrDade: but a better way is to read the introduction to each section of the manual (there are 8 sections numbered 1-8): Like so:  man 1 intro
[01:47] <Decoy_> Sivik, you fail at life
[01:47] <Stormx2> How do I make ubuntu take notice of ~/bin?
[01:47] <Sivik> Decoy_, oh well
[01:47] <patrick_king> can anyone help me PLEASE im going insane
[01:47] <Pump> i need some help to configure a pinnacle pctv stereo, somebody knows how can i do?
[01:47] <Sivik> patrick_king, what is your problem?
[01:47] <Stormx2> patrick_king: Whats the problem?
[01:47] <crimsun_> Stormx2: what shell are you using?
[01:47] <patrick_king> im tring to install a intel 830m driver
[01:47] <funky> morbidi: it should be configured in any hidden file (bashrc, or so) in $HOME
[01:47] <boabsta> lol at Decoy_ what a tube :)
[01:47] <Stormx2> crimsun_: bash
[01:48] <Stormx2> crimsun_: If thats what you mean...
[01:48] <crimsun_> Stormx2: uncomment the appropriate block in ~/.bash_profile
[01:48] <funky> morbidi: chan you grep your home something like grep -i completion .* ?
[01:48] <funky> can*
[01:49] <morbidi> funky: sure
[01:49] <igorzolnikov> Hi! Can i read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions in russian?
[01:49] <Stormx2> crimsun_: Thats odd. It is uncommented, and the directory does exist, and the scripts are +x
[01:49] <Stormx2> crimsun_: I'm using terminal to run them.
[01:50] <Stormx2> crimsun_: Is that sh?
[01:50] <crimsun_> Stormx2: ~/.bash_profile is only sourced for login shells.
[01:50] <Stormx2> crimsun_: Meaning? ;)
[01:50] <drumline> google earth now on linux !  Yay
[01:50] <Furries> Uh-oh. I'm pregnant again. Guess it's time to get drunk and fall down some steps!
[01:50] <polpak> Stormx2: they don't need to be +x   I've found the easiest thing to do is to move the lines from .bash_profile into .bashrc (which is sourced from .bash_profile)
[01:50] <crimsun_> Stormx2: in Terminal's preferences, did you configure the shell to be interactive/login?
[01:51] <kbrooks> Hmmm.
[01:51] <drumline> Furries: that's sick...
[01:51] <kbrooks> How do I get this file? [skin]  file ( /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.
[01:51] <jd__> When I go into user properties all of the users have the same password and i did not set it. So far there have been no problems but I was wondering why this have a password that I did not set
[01:51] <patrick_king> i keep getting this message "the dri drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules installtion will be aborted. see dri.log for infomation of what went wrong
[01:51] <polpak> Stormx2: then it will be added to your path regardless of whether your session is a login shell or not
[01:51] <BCK14> how do i update kaffeine, ive tried compiling the new version from source but it hasnt updated it
[01:51] <TheBlunderbuss> gah! furries in the channel!
[01:51] <kbrooks> How do I get this file? [skin]  file ( /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default/skin ) not found.
[01:51] <patrick_king> here is the dri.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16399
[01:51] <zag> anyone here speak portuguese?
[01:51] <Stormx2> polpak: Ah ok
[01:51] <kbrooks> !br
[01:51] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:51] <Cameron_> hey can some1 help me plz
[01:52] <ic56> !br
[01:52] <kbrooks> !tell zag about br
[01:52] <crimsun_> kbrooks: recreate the symlink as necessary
[01:52] <DShepherd> maybe
[01:52] <Cameron_> can some1 help me
[01:52] <ardchoille> kbrooks: open up the mplayer rc in your $HOME and fix that line. That has happened to me a few times.
[01:52] <DShepherd> maybe] 
[01:52] <kbrooks> crimsun_: what must it point to?
[01:52] <Cameron_> i need an auto op
[01:52] <BCK14> how do i update kaffeine, ive tried compiling the new version from source but it hasnt updated it
[01:52] <kbrooks> Cameron_: wat chan?
[01:52] <Pump> i need help with a pinnacle pctv stereo, please
[01:52] <ElBrujo> how can i resize my linux partition?
[01:52] <Cameron_> kbrooks ill private ok
[01:52] <crimsun_> kbrooks: whatever the default in mplayer-skins is (I don't have either package installed)
[01:53] <DShepherd> ElBrujo: have you tried gparted?
[01:53] <Pump> ElBrujo: you can use qtparted
[01:53] <Cameron_> kbrooks talk on private
[01:53] <TheBlunderbuss> gparted!
[01:53] <kbrooks> Cameron_: yes im there
[01:53] <ElBrujo> in gparted  the option is disable
[01:53] <kbrooks> Cameron_: answer in private
[01:53] <Stormx2> polpak: Thanks very much that worked!
[01:53] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I urn this blutooth device off. I guess I could save some battery this way?
[01:53] <Cameron_> how do u answer in private
[01:54] <patrick_king> anyone
[01:54] <ardchoille> kbrooks: Cameron_ isn't identifuied to services
[01:55] <GaiaX11> How do I play quicktime in ubuntu?
[01:55] <funky> morbidi: thanks for your no-help, source /etc/bash_completion was the answer
[01:55] <kbrooks> ardchoille: and he isn't op either :P
[01:55] <ardchoille> Cameron_: you can't, not unless you are identified to services
[01:55] <GaiaX11> I mean quicktime movies.
[01:55] <GaiaX11> Is there a player for that? O a plugin?
[01:56] <zag> ok how could i use the brasilian channel ? its my first try...
[01:56] <patrick_king> ok i have a builin ifrared how do i use it
[01:56] <patrick_king> on my laptop
[01:56] <jramsey> anyone have a reference for a sample javascipt that will send smtp mail through an apache server? the dreamweaver javascript that i aped from a dw book doesnt work
[01:56] <GaiaX11> zag, /join #ubuntu-br
[01:56] <Assnine>  DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:57] <ubuntu_> alguien tiene linux en el ipod
[01:57] <ubuntu_> ?
[01:57] <ardchoille>  /ignore Assnine
[01:57] <ubuntu_> estoy intentando confgurar el MPD
[01:57] <crimsun_> sigh.
[01:57] <BCK14> how do i update kaffeine, ive tried compiling the new version from source but it hasnt updated it
[01:57] <ubuntu_> pero al cargar el kernel
[01:57] <Kazukisan> My sound works great and everything for games/wine/music/movies but when i open up team speak and go to settings it ask to select sound the only option is /dev/dsp and other, with dev/dsp it doesnt work i hear no sound and wont let me unmute mic like it cant find a sound card any suggestions ?
[01:57] <ubuntu_> se cuelga
[01:57] <Assnine>  DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:57] <FifaFrazer> I go to system->settings->resolution and I want to set my monitor refresh rate to 85, but only 60 is available... my eyes hurt. I've just installed ubuntu, so im totally new to this stuff..
[01:57] <Assnine>  DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:57] <Sivik> FifaFrazer, did you install the correct video drivers
[01:57] <jramsey> crimsun_, can u block him permanently?
[01:58] <BCK14> how do i update kaffeine, ive tried compiling the new version from source but it hasnt updated it
[01:58] <FifaFrazer> Sivik I havent installed any drivers manually
[01:58] <Sivik> FifaFrazer, what kind of card
[01:58] <crimsun_> interesting, my client's funk.
[01:58] <FifaFrazer> nvidia geforce 4
[01:58] <GaiaX11> Is there a player for that? Or a plugin for quicktime movies?
[01:58] <zag> thank you gaya x11
[01:58] <jramsey> anyone have a reference for a sample javascipt that will send smtp mail through an apache server? the dreamweaver javascript that i took from a dw book doesnt work
[01:58] <Sivik> FifaFrazer, which card specifically
[01:59] <FifaFrazer> Ti4800se
[01:59] <Sivik> !nvidia
[01:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:59] <GaiaX11> zag, you're welcome
[01:59] <Sivik> !tell FifaFrazer about nvidia
[01:59] <FifaFrazer> thank you very much
[01:59] <Sivik> yw
[01:59] <GaiaX11> Plugin for quicktime. Any1 knows?
[02:00] <larson9999> on my old machine, things were kinda goofey.  it installed intel_agp and was using it instead of nvidia which it what i have.  it installed bluetooth and a wacom but i don't have bluetooth or a table.  what's up with that.  i saw a post about the intel_agp.  i wonder if many of the recent dapper nvidia issues were caused by that
[02:00] <Kazukisan> GaiaX11: windows :P ;) tell me also if you can find one lol
[02:00] <Cameron_Ubuntu> can some1 explain something to me about the op levels
[02:00] <larson9999> GaiaX11: i use mplayer for quicktime
[02:00] <Cameron_Ubuntu> can some1 explain something to me about the op levels
[02:00] <TheBlunderbuss> yup
[02:00] <patrick_king> i have a Dell latitude c400, everything is working apart from the infrared i was wonderinf if any one could help me get it working please
[02:01] <Cameron_Ubuntu> can some1 explain something to me about the op levels if you can go to #Ubuntu_Help
[02:01] <Jowi> GaiaX11: either w32codecs or vlc. not sure if gstreamer has a plugin for it or not
[02:01] <jackson> hi guys. I'm installing Dapper on a Dell Inspiron 700m and during the package configuration it stops at about 58%. the screen goes blank and two small, white rectangles appear (one in the middle, one on the left) on the screen. it continues to access the drive for a bit and then it stops so I just shut it off. any ideas?
[02:01] <Cameron_Ubuntu> can some1 explain something to me about the op levels if you can go to #Ubuntu_Help
[02:01] <PORDO> i can't login without using failsafe gnome: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[02:01] <yallaman> anyone here using fluxbox on ubuntu 6.06?
[02:01] <crimsun_> Cameron_Ubuntu: chanserv can help you
[02:02] <Cameron_Ubuntu> crimsun can u come to #Ubuntu_Help  for a few mins
[02:02] <Cameron_Ubuntu> chanserv
[02:02] <jramsey> patrick_king, have u checked http://irda.sourceforge.net/smcinit/ ??
[02:02] <ardchoille> yallaman: Maybe #fluxbox can help?
[02:02] <SonicChao> Cameron, message ChanServ with the following word "help"
[02:02] <morbidi> funky: ups, sorry, I was busy with something in my opengl install :/
[02:02] <Cameron_Ubuntu> can u crimsun
[02:02] <GaiaX11> larson9999, I have mplayer as well, but how to view quicktime movies in this page then? http://www.torontofashionweek.ca/lfw/lfw_new-shows.html
[02:03] <patrick_king> jramsey: yes i just keep going round in curcles
[02:03] <Cameron_Ubuntu> like whats the dif between lvl 10 and lv 30
[02:03] <larson9999> GaiaX11: checking it out
[02:03] <PORDO> can anyone even just take a _peek_ at this? http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[02:03] <zorplex> anyone willing to help out with a ubuntu install gone awry?
[02:03] <jramsey> patrick_king, you tried loading the kernel irda module manually?
[02:04] <yallaman> ive been there:)  was asked to install to the newest ver of fluxbox..but i get some dep problems http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16402 ..so im wondering what repos i need to add
[02:04] <Cameron_Ubuntu> me made the chanel for me becuase he has a server but he wants me to be owner and he be just op and he still being host is that possible
[02:04] <patrick_king> jramsey: i wouldnt know where to start
[02:04] <Cameron_Ubuntu> he made the chanel for me becuase he has a server but he wants me to be owner and he be just op and he still being host is that possible
[02:04] <joseph> does anyone have problems with mplayer???
[02:04] <Snake> What package do I need to be able to extract files in .debs?
[02:04] <Snake> (with file roller)
[02:05] <Snake> err
[02:05] <Cameron_Ubuntu> he made the chanel for me becuase he has a server but he wants me to be owner and he be just op and he still being host is that possible
[02:05] <Cameron_Ubuntu> he made the chanel for me becuase he has a server but he wants me to be owner and he be just op and he still being host is that possible
[02:05] <Snake> archive manager**
[02:05] <TheBlunderbuss> you just said that
[02:05] <zorplex> Question: I am installing Ubuntu on a machine with 4 SATA drives. I have xp on my sda and want to install ubuntu onto sdb, but grub is giving me an error 22, what doI do?
[02:05] <Cameron_Ubuntu> he made the chanel for me becuase he has a server but he wants me to be owner and he be just op and he still being host is that possible
[02:05] <larson9999> GaiaX11: oops! i forgot. i used mplayer in mandriva with no problems.  but in ubuntu, it's kinda jumpy.  don't know if it's really a ubuntu problem or not.  anyway, to play that install moz-plugger and it should work
[02:05] <GaiaX11> joseph, which kind of problem?
[02:05] <Cameron_Ubuntu> he made the chanel for me becuase he has a server but he wants me to be owner and he be just op and he still being host is that possible
[02:05] <ompaul> Cameron_Ubuntu please stop repeating
[02:05] <funky> morbidi: ok, no problem
[02:06] <Cameron_Ubuntu> i need help real wuick but
[02:06] <ardchoille> Cameron_Ubuntu: stop it!
[02:06] <ozzloy> my resolution is really small, but there is no other resolution listed in system->preferences->screen resolution.  this is a brand new install of 6.06
[02:06] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, it plays audio, but not the video portion
[02:06] <ozzloy> how do i increase the resolution?
[02:06] <Cameron_Ubuntu> i need help
[02:06] <Snake> Repost: What package do I need to extract .debs in archive manager :-/
[02:06] <distanceisdeath> DaiaX11, I am joseph
[02:06] <jramsey> patrick_king, well from my read the kernel install won't find the irda because of bios limitations; go to dells site and see if you can find out what chip they use; but, the notes i read say this is fixed in 2.6 so it oughta work in breezy; go read this and see if it helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[02:06] <PORDO> can someone just tell me what is in your default ~/.profile ?
[02:06] <larson9999> GaiaX11: mozplugger will know to use mplayer.  but i think i'm going to try vlc.  oh, that site did play for me using mplayer and mozplugger
[02:06] <GaiaX11> larson9999, I will see.
[02:06] <zorplex> Cameron, your not the only one
[02:07] <larson9999> GaiaX11: did you get the win32codecs?
[02:07] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, do you have w32codecs in your machine?
[02:07] <jackson> hi guys. I'm installing Dapper on a Dell Inspiron 700m and during the package configuration it stops at about 58%. the screen goes blank and two small, white rectangles appear (one in the middle, one on the left) on the screen. it continues to access the drive for a bit and then it stops so I just shut it off. any ideas?
[02:07] <GaiaX11> larson9999, I do.
[02:07] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, I dont think so.  If they are not stock, then i dont
[02:08] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, Have a look then
[02:08] <distanceisdeath> How?
[02:08] <Jowi> jackson: if you are using a cd other than the desktop/live one I would suggest turning off framebuffer to see if that helps.
[02:08] <ozzloy> also, which is better?  easy_ubuntu or automatix?
[02:08] <ompaul> Cameron_Ubuntu you were asked to stop repeating - is it possible and not relevant to ubuntu - but they control more than you do there ya go I assume your talking about irc so it is not for #ubuntu where we deal with ubuntu based questions
[02:08] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, no i do not.
[02:09] <larson9999> i wonder why ff doesn't have an 'add' in their 'actions' settings
[02:09] <GaiaX11> So put it there and try mplayer again
[02:09] <Jowi> jackson: it might be that the installer still work and display messages, but you wouldn't know. turning off the framebuffer helps most of the time if you get a garbled display.
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ompaul: can you give me a hand in #ubuntu-unregged so i can bring my grandmother a slkice of pie
[02:09] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, So put it there and try mplayer again
[02:09] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, how do i install it?
[02:09] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yes
[02:09] <GaiaX11> Through synaptic or apt-get
[02:09] <jackson> Jowi: how do I turn off the framebuffer?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ty
[02:10] <FifaFrazer> the nvidia driver guide tells me to look at a list to see if i need nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx, but the list doenst work.. My card is G-force Ti4800se. What should i choose ?
[02:10] <PORDO> ompaul perhaps you could tell me what should be in a .profile file, so i can successfully log in.
[02:10] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, Through synaptic or apt-get
[02:10] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, okay one second
[02:10] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I urn this blutooth device off. I guess I could save some battery this way?
[02:10] <Jowi> jackson: good question. on the older versions of ubuntu you ran "linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false" but on 6.06 I don't know. someone else has an idea?
[02:10] <GaiaX11> larson9999, which is best? Mozpluger or vlc?
[02:11] <ompaul> PORDO, why do you believe that is what is stopping you?
[02:11] <PORDO> it's not, i just realized.
[02:11] <patrick_king> right i have to edit this sudo vi /etc/default/irda-utils
[02:11] <GaiaX11> larson9999, for me to open that site
[02:11] <PORDO> ompaul http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[02:11] <patrick_king> but when i do that command its empty
[02:11] <ompaul> PORDO, sorry no time got to do that thing gnomefreak needs done
[02:11] <patrick_king> but when i go to where its located its not
[02:11] <jramsey> is it enabled in ur bios?
[02:12] <patrick_king> yes
[02:12] <PORDO> ompaul about the slice of pie?
[02:12] <Jowi> jackson: when you run the install cd you should have some help screens that show you how
[02:12] <jramsey> have u installed the irda utils with apt-get??
[02:12] <patrick_king> yes
[02:12] <larson9999> GaiaX11: the only thing i've used is mozplugger with mplayer.  mozplugger is a tool that uses the program you have associated with that type of file to play it
[02:12] <jramsey> and setserial?
[02:12] <patrick_king> yes
[02:13] <patrick_king> im stuck on the Configuration
[02:13] <larson9999> GaiaX11: but there seems to be a problem with quicktime and dapper as they are kinda jumpy
[02:13] <jramsey> well if the lines arent in irda-utils then have u just tried adding them and rebooting?
[02:13] <method|> is there any way to have larger files than 2 gigs on my linux partition?
[02:13] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, what do i put in the terminal? (sudo apt-get install _______)
[02:13] <patrick_king> ok will give it agp
[02:13] <zorplex> how would one go about creating a grub floppy to boot ubuntu?
[02:14] <Gullstad> I cant watch movies on my computer, but i can hear the sound. All mediaplayers got a black screen were the pic.should be. But the sound is good.
[02:14] <zorplex> (as not to have to mess with the MBR)
[02:14] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, Could be.
[02:14] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, what do i put in the blank?
[02:14] <yallaman> what repos do i need to add the following packages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16402   ? im trying to install the newest ver of fluxbox
[02:14] <PORDO> floppy?  what's that?
[02:15] <zorplex> floppy disk
[02:15] <Jowi> Gullstad: try a different kernel. I had the same prob but everything was green.
[02:15] <zorplex> ie a grub boot disk to boot ubuntu with
[02:15] <PORDO> is that some kind of bluetooth thing?
[02:15] <distanceisdeath> no
[02:15] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, win32codecs
[02:15] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, all right
[02:15] <PORDO> i'm sorry, i'm still in the stone age with usb drive on my keychain.
[02:15] <zorplex> .... are you patronizing me? -__
[02:15] <PORDO> patronizing?
[02:16] <stupidregcrap> I am having problems with gparted and resizing my root drive. I resized a ntfs partition to a smaller amount to free up some space to put on my root partition, however, I gparted won't let me add the unassigned amount to the drive, only shrink it.
[02:16] <Gullstad> Jowi: Different kernel?
[02:16] <ompaul> PORDO, read his request again
[02:16] <Jowi> Gullstad: ....that assumes of course that you actually have tried installing the correct codecs for the movie(s)
[02:16] <PORDO> yeah.  it's still the same.
[02:16] <jjosh2004> Anyone know how I can get a program to run at startup as root?
[02:16] <Gullstad> Jowi: Sound is there, and I got VLC whit w32codecks.
[02:16] <stupidregcrap> why won't gparted allow me to add the unassigned space to my root partition?
[02:17] <Jowi> Gullstad: all movies are like that?
[02:17] <ablyss> jjosh2004: add it to /etc/rc.local
[02:17] <Kazukisan> My sound works great and everything for games/wine/music/movies but when i open up team speak and go to settings it ask to select sound the only option is /dev/dsp and other, with dev/dsp it doesnt work i hear no sound and wont let me unmute mic like it cant find a sound card any suggestions ?
[02:17] <Gullstad> Jowi: Yes.
[02:17] <stupidregcrap> do i just need delete all the partition and start again?
[02:17] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, it says my resource is temporarially unavailable
[02:17] <ompaul> PORDO, I suggest sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose card type vesa if on an X86 type computer and sudo dkpg-reconfigure gdm after that
[02:17] <PORDO> thx
[02:18] <zorplex> I don't have a USB drive atm, and would like to use a floppy disk, so where in Ubuntu would I go to install grub on a floppy in order to boot ubuntu w/o changing the mbr?
[02:18] <Jowi> Gullstad: then I would suggest a different kernel. just to see if it works (kernel contain low level drivers for your video card)
[02:18] <stupidregcrap> clearly, using linux as a desktop is misguided ;P
[02:18] <ztripez> If i want to create a .img from a dir, what do I have to do?
[02:18] <Warbo> Hello, I am trying to write GParted LiveCD, but my CD Writer doesn't want to cooperate :( (dmesg says "cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!")
[02:18] <Gullstad> Jowi: What is a kernel?
[02:19] <Warbo> Gullstad: Linux is the kernel Ubuntu uses
[02:19] <Jowi> Gullstad: Linux = kernel that Ubuntu is based on
[02:19] <larson9999> warbo what version of gparted?
[02:19] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, nevermind, but there are no packages "win32codecs"
[02:19] <Warbo> Gullstad: Look for "linux-image-XXXXXX" packages
[02:19] <Gullstad> Jowi: So you suggest windows?
[02:20] <Jowi> Gullstad: I suggest a different version of the kernel.
[02:20] <Warbo> larson9999: gparted-livecd-0.2.5-1.iso
[02:20] <stupidregcrap> is there a limit to how large a root partition can be?
[02:20] <mwe> w32codecs in multivers
[02:20] <dooglus> Gullstad: when he says he suggests a different kernel, he means a different version of the Linux kernel
[02:20] <larson9999> warbo have you tried the .2.4 ?  it's the one i've had the best success with
[02:20] <Gullstad> Jowi: How update?
[02:20] <Warbo> stupidregcrap: If you use Reiser4 then there is no known limit
[02:20] <dooglus> stupidregcrap: there's no limit, no
[02:21] <Stormx2> Where is my hosts file again?
[02:21] <dooglus> stupidregcrap: /etc/
[02:21] <ParaSiteX> I have changed my fstab. How can I apply the changes without rebooting?
[02:21] <Gullstad> !kernel
[02:21] <Gullstad> !tell Gullstad about kernel
[02:21] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:21] <Warbo> larson9999: I thik the problem is mainly the CD Writer. No writing packages work (not even cdrecord) and dmesg says IO Error
[02:21] <ron_o> dooglus, Warbo I thought that all OS's have some limits...
[02:21] <ron_o> for their size.
[02:21] <monteiro> is there any open source software for linux, to do a little presentation, with photos and text (besides oo presentation) ?
[02:21] <stupidregcrap> Reiser4 is something that came with ubuntu package?
[02:21] <Warbo> ron_o: Reiser4 has no KNOWN limits (probably several million terabytes would screw it up though)
[02:22] <ron_o> Warbo, OK..
[02:22] <stupidregcrap> no, it's a filesystem, my bad
[02:22] <Warbo> Reiser4 has to be added to the kernel (it is not stable enough to be included yet)
[02:22] <jramsey> monteiro, u try openoffice impress?
[02:22] <ztripez> If i want to create a .img from a dir, what do I have to do?
[02:22] <stupidregcrap> my root is only 2 gigs and I can't friggin add any unassigned to it with gparted. I have no idea why
[02:23] <monteiro> jramsey : yes, but is too slow, and it has a lot of bugs
[02:23] <stupidregcrap> I'm don't have it mounted
[02:23] <stupidregcrap> I don't rather
[02:23] <Warbo> ztripez: What do you mean? Do you want to copy the contents of a directory into a filesystem image?
[02:23] <jramsey> stupidregcrap, can u repart?
[02:23] <stupidregcrap> yeah
[02:23] <ztripez> Warbo, yeah :D
[02:23] <stupidregcrap> i can make the unassigned another ext 3
[02:23] <stupidregcrap> but i can't add it to my root
[02:24] <Jowi> Gullstad: If it wasn't 2:22am and I didn't sleep much last night I would be more than happy to help a bit further. I would not want to give you bad info.
[02:24] <jramsey> monteiro, all i know of ... which version are you using? i upgraded to oo 2.0 for similar reasons
[02:24] <ztripez> Warbo, sorry for my bad english
[02:24] <Jerr> I want to make a cron (more like, have a script run every hour, possibly using /etc/cron.hourly) for a script in my home folder. I was wondering if and how to make a script to go the folder and run that perl script
[02:24] <Warbo> ztripez: OK, you can do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/yourusername/filesystem.img bs=512 count=XXXXXX" (XXXXXX is the number of 512 byte blocks you want)
[02:25] <monteiro> jramsey : i'm using the last ubuntu (dapper), with the latest oo 2
[02:25] <jramsey> monteiro,  and impress still have that many bugs???
[02:25] <Warbo> ztripez: That will make an empty file, then I will tell you how to turn it into an image and finally how to copy your files to it
[02:25] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, yes there is
[02:25] <Jowi> night all
[02:26] <ztripez> ahh.. ok
[02:26] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, then why isnt it going?
[02:26] <monteiro> jramsey : when i was making a presentation, sometimes oo crashes and when i was opening again the same file, the same bug appeared and pumm, again and again...
[02:26] <jramsey> bummer
[02:26] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, look you source.list
[02:27] <stupidregcrap> does ubuntu come with any other partition packages that might not give me the problems?
[02:27] <Warbo> Can anyone diagnose the problem with my CD Writer?Ive tried a few different discs but it won't write
[02:27] <stc> hi, who use initNG ?
[02:27] <distanceisdeath> GaiaX11, root?
[02:27] <Warbo> stupidregcrap: libparted is the main engine used by GParted, QTParted and parted itself
[02:27] <sean> Hey
[02:27] <stupidregcrap> so if I do it manually I might have better luck?
[02:28] <\\Roscoe\> Warbo: I'm having a similar problem with my Pioneer DVD writer... the Ubuntu forums shows that plenty of people are having issues are Dapper
[02:28] <Warbo> stupidregcrap: I have messed with partitions manually, but i would not like to advise anyone on it without seeing it in front of me
[02:28] <sean> Is there a way to make my user have permissions to edit files outside of the home directory without doing it manually with my root account?
[02:29] <stupidregcrap> Where I'm at, it's either resize the partition or delete it and start from scratch so I suppose I don't have much to lose ;)
[02:29] <stupidregcrap> thanks
[02:29] <Warbo> \\Roscoe\: I have written some ISOs before (I have to use a boot CD on my own computer, which I wrote on this computer) and it was OK after I put the ISO on the hard drive rather than USB stick (USB1 was causing a bottleneck)
[02:30] <Warbo> Sean: Why do you want to do that may I ask?
[02:30] <\\Roscoe\> Warbo: I'm getting only around 50% good burns in Dapper.
[02:31] <Warbo> \\Roscoe\: Using a RW disc produces an unusable CD (but that's OK since it is RW) but recordable aren't even recognised "Please insert a blank disc"
 - I have several websites set up in the var www directory and i dont want to have to go into my root account and modify the permissions every time i make a new folder, etc
[02:32] <sean> It also gives me a permissions problem while trying to install rails
[02:32] <PORDO> ompaul well, that didn't work. :(
[02:32] <alth> Ok, my screen keeps flashing on and off now. It doesn't do it in Windows, so it's a software problem, and it's REALLY ANNOYING.
[02:32] <burntsigil> Do the Ubuntu folks send out all the requested Ubuntu CDs at a specific time or do they send them out as soon as you request them?
[02:32] <Warbo> Sean: Put yourself into the same group as those files, simple
[02:33] <sean> How would I do that warbo? (and thanks for the help)
[02:33] <PORDO> don't be so quick to say things like "it doesn't do that in windows, so it's a software problem."  it could be a hardware problem for all you know.
[02:33] <Healot> alth: reconfigure your X server. make sure you know the supported screen resolution/refresh rate,,,
[02:33] <Warbo> alth: Have you installed a custom graphics driver or are you using the standard ones?
[02:33] <MrKeuner> how can I turn blutooth device off?
[02:33] <alth> Warbo: ATI Radeon drivers.
[02:33] <PORDO> i'm still having this problem. http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[02:33] <Warbo> alth: Which one?
[02:33] <alth> Warbo: They've been fine for a week, then the blanking started ocassionally, now it's every minute or less.
[02:34] <Warbo> (radeon or fglrx)
[02:34] <alth> Warbo: fglrx, I think.
[02:34] <PORDO> /etc/desktop-profiles/users.xml
[02:35] <Warbo> alth: OK, I don't have any experience with that (apart from it screwing every GL and framebuffer programI had, so I scrapped it for the Free one)
[02:35] <mo0se> !mp3
[02:35] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <PORDO> oh!  it's talking about the profile thing.
[02:36] <Warbo> sean: You should see what group the files are in ("ls -l /var/www............etc. etc.") then in the System>Administration>Users and Groups tool put your user into that group
[02:36] <sean> warbo: "I have several websites set up in the var www directory and i dont want to have to go into my root account and modify the permissions every time i make a new folder, etc"
[02:36] <alth> Warbo: should I try the free one then?
[02:36] <MrKeuner> !help
[02:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:36] <Cntryboy> for glx what is command to print out info?
[02:36] <Cntryboy> glxgears -print   ?
[02:36] <alth> Healot: D'you want to walk me through reconfiguring my xserver, if you think that's necesary?
[02:37] <PORDO> this has something to do with sabayon
[02:37] <Warbo> alth: That depends on what your card is. Fglrx only works on newer cards (that's why I had a problem) and radeon only works on older cards (or else the 3D doesn't work, basically making it as effective as the ati one)
[02:37] <Cntryboy> alth: what problems is he having with xserver
[02:37] <Kibou> Cntryboy: -printfps
[02:37] <Cntryboy> kibou thx
[02:37] <sean> warbo: I added myself to the root group but it still gives me the permission error
[02:37] <mo0se> what's the file to edit mounted partitions and stuff?
[02:37] <Healot> fstab == /etc/fstab
[02:37] <mo0se> thanks.
[02:38] <alth> Warbo: It's an X600XT, last year -ish.
[02:38] <Warbo> Sean: Well you may want to make a new group (called "websites" or something) and make sure the GROUP permissions are set (the three numbers for permissions are 1) owner 2) group and 3) others)
[02:38] <alth> Cntryboy: It's me who's having problems, not him :) My screen keeps blanking every few minuets.
[02:38] <mo0se> !fat32
[02:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:38] <alth> minutes*
[02:38] <sean> warbo: Ok, thanks :)
[02:38] <Warbo> alth: That's a bit too new for the radeon driver (I think my card, a Radeon 9200, is about the maximum it can do 3D on)
[02:39] <Cntryboy> Ya'll my unrealtournament is super choppy, and glxgears says "10571 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2113.814 FPS" and Im using an old geforce 2 gts/pro. Why is it so choppy?
[02:39] <Niggles> Is there any way to see the limit of a motherboards capacity for the space of a hard-drive it can cater for?
[02:39] <Cntryboy> alth: sorry what problems u having?
[02:39] <Healot> Niggles: the mobo manual
[02:39] <alth> Well like I said, it's been working fine on that driver for a week...any other ideas? This is driving me insane.
[02:39] <Cntryboy> alth: what video card?
[02:39] <Niggles> Healot, The computer is rather old (thats why im inquiring) and I'm not the initial owner, so the manual is long gone
[02:39] <Healot> iirc, modern mobo doesn't have disk space limitation
[02:40] <Warbo> Niggles: It depends on the filesystem I think. 32bit filesystems can't do more than 4GB without special tricks, these days 64bit filesystems are used (which have a limit of 2^64 bytes)
[02:40] <alth> Cntryboy: I just said. An ATI X600XT.
[02:40] <Healot> maybe RAM...
[02:40] <Healot> older BIOS has limit up to 120GB...
[02:40] <alth> My GOD this sucks...*watches screen turn on and off constantly*
[02:40] <Cntryboy> alth: I'm not sure if xserver list that card auto.. But what I did with my gforce was go through xserver and chose vesa, then apt-get my nvidia driver, then went to xorg.conf and changed it to nvidia..
[02:41] <Warbo> alth: I bet you'd feel stupid if the monitor connections are loose :)
[02:41] <ompaul> !test
[02:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[02:41] <Niggles> Warbo, It currently has a 4GB hard-drive, and was made around 1999 AFAIK, do you think it could handle a 30GB drive?
[02:41] <ParaSiteX> I want to chmod a directory so that the user "ps" has full right on it. Can anyone help?
[02:41] <nbjayme> hello... i am looking for a linux utility that will combine/merge Audio Ogg and Video Ogg files... meaning Audio and Video (2 files) become One file in Ogg Format...
[02:41] <Warbo> Niggles: I am pretty positive it could
[02:41] <Cntryboy> Ya'll my unrealtournament is super choppy, and glxgears says "10571 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2113.814 FPS" and Im using an old geforce 2 gts/pro. Why is it so choppy?
[02:41] <an0malist> can someone tell me why i
[02:41] <GaiaX11> distanceisdeath, look here for installing win32codecs: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[02:41] <an0malist> i'm getting a lot of errors when trying to use make?
[02:41] <Niggles> Warbo, ok thanks
[02:42] <difekta> i...need...heeeelp... http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[02:42] <dashriKe> I am going to dive, possibly tomorrow
[02:42] <alth> Warbo: Yes, I would feel stupid, which is why I checked them first thing ;)
[02:42] <MrKeuner> is it possible to turn off the bluetooth device? is it enought o remove the kernel module? whichever it is?
[02:42] <boelloesch> hi
[02:42] <Warbo> nbjayme: There is ffmpeg2theora which I use (I tend to make a lossless YUV stream in mencoder, then convert it to OGG vith ffmpeg2theora)
[02:42] <debian_> does anyone know if theres a terminal command to switch forward/back/to a specific workspace
[02:42] <rixxon> i use this gstreamer pipeline in sound juicer to get it ripping to mp3 format: 'audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc bitrate=128 ! id3v2mux' - the problem is sound juicer don't write any id3 tags (the data is available)
[02:43] <difekta> "Some people says that if you play a Windows XP install CD backwards you will hear demon voices commanding you to worship Satan". But that's nothing. If you play it forward it will install Windows XP.
[02:43] <boelloesch> <------ has just a little question - anyone there for jus 5 minutes?
[02:44] <alth> We all read Bash, Difekta ;)
[02:44] <Healot> difekta: you've been punk'd
[02:44] <alth> Or we should...
[02:44] <alth> Anyway. My monitor is securely plugged in, and every minute or so it'll turn itself off, just for a second. This is so annoying that if I can't get it fixed, I'll have to go back to Windows, which will make me very sad. :(
[02:45] <ompaul> difekta, changing your nick does not help
[02:45] <sean> warbo: so there isnt any way to set my user to have root privliges?
[02:45] <ompaul> !root
[02:45] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:45] <Warbo> alth: just wondering what kind of monitor (flat or CRT?)
[02:45] <ompaul> sean, read that thing ubotu said
[02:45] <an0malist> !glibc
[02:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about glibc
[02:45] <an0malist> godddd
[02:45] <sean> ompol: Im talking beyond installing programs
[02:45] <difekta> ompaul not my fault.  i think my old nick must have still been "in use", so xchat used my second choice.
[02:46] <sethk> sean, sudo can be configured to allow any user to run any program
[02:46] <sethk> sean, or to allow a particular user to run all programs
[02:46] <Warbo> Sean: You can edit the sudoers file with "sudo visudo" to let your user run programs with sudo, but without requiring a password (but I would NOT recommend it)
[02:46] <difekta> Healot punked?
[02:46] <Healot> ghost the nick if you';re registered
[02:46] <Cntryboy> can anyone help me resolve my issue?
[02:46] <alth> Warbo: CRT, running at 1024x768 and 60hz (My graphics card decides it doesn't like higher refresh rates).
[02:46] <sethk> sean, although allowiing all programs defeats its purpose
[02:46] <boelloesch> <------ installed a tool by ` apt-get`  - is there a way to put it to desktop
[02:46] <boelloesch> 
[02:46] <sean> i want my user to be able to make/edit files in any directort
[02:46] <sean> *directory
[02:46] <spikeb> sean add your user to the admin/sudoers group
[02:46] <Warbo> alth: Wow, that seems like very conservative settings
[02:47] <sethk> sean, then put that user in a group, and give that group write privileges in the directories
[02:47] <difekta> i can't find my specific error on google.  any help would be awesome.  i have no idea why this is happening.  i can't think of anything i changed lately.
[02:47] <sean> ok, thanks
[02:47] <alth> Yes Warbo.
[02:47] <sean> thaks guys
[02:47] <Warbo> spikeb: He wants to be able to edit his apache sites without using sudo, so I suggested putting them in a group which he is a member of
[02:47] <spikeb> Warbo: ahh
[02:48] <linux_user400354> how can i get pine for ubu tu?
[02:48] <Cntryboy> my unrealtournament is super choppy, and glxgears says "10571 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2113.814 FPS" and Im using an old geforce 2 gts/pro. Why is it so choppy?
[02:48] <thompa> how do i enable dma?
[02:49] <Warbo> !dma
[02:49] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[02:49] <thompa> ok
[02:49] <Warbo> :)
[02:49] <agabus> on my laptop, when i plugin my USB mouse after Dapper has already booted, my mouse doesn't work and i have to reboot with it plugged in for it to work. is this normal? can i fix this?
[02:49] <hanasaki> !java
[02:49] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:49] <DShepherd> agabus: have you tried to restart the X server only?
[02:50] <hanasaki> what needs to be in sources.list to get the java 1.5 package from sun?
[02:50] <Warbo> agabus: I know this happens for S/2 mice in Windows, but I have found that even plugging PS/2 mice in after boot on Ubuntu (and any Linux) works after an automaatic modprobe
[02:50] <agabus> DShepherd - no i haven't, but even if it comes to that, i still wouldn't mind more of a fix
[02:50] <SpaceballOne> does anyone know a good GarageBand alternative for linux?
[02:50] <DShepherd> agabus: ok... good point. restart X >= restarting computer
[02:50] <Healot> Mac GarageBand?
[02:50] <neutrinomass> linux_user400354: Normally, you would do a 'sudo apt-get install pine' but that seems to be sort of broken right now :-//
[02:50] <agabus> Warbo - yeah on Ubuntu on my PC when i plug in the same mouse it works fine
[02:50] <SpaceballOne> yes
[02:50] <Warbo> agabus: If you have access to a console (ctrl-alt-f1) then modprobe usb_hid may work
[02:51] <RawSewage> whats the point in using a password at all, if anyone can just pop in a live cd or something and start browsing your files without any password
[02:51] <ompaul> SpaceballOne, would  rosegarden fit the bull
[02:51] <linux_user400354> Kturtle is a sweet program
[02:51] <SpaceballOne> preferably one that comes with a sound library
[02:51] <zahlerstreik> hey everyone!
[02:51] <Warbo> RawSewage: The point of a password is for your encrypted files to remain secure. Turn on some form of encryption if you want security
[02:52] <zahlerstreik> anyone here have experience with RaLink drivers? I can't get mine to work at all
[02:52] <agabus> Warbo - FATAL: Module usb_hid not found.
[02:52] <alth> This is so annoying! *watches screen flick on and off*
[02:52] <RawSewage> Warbo, oh, if I encrypt somthing, I just use assymetrical
[02:52] <Warbo> zahlerstreik: Mine worked straight away, but after a reboot it screws up the boot sequence so I can no longer boot with it plugged in :(
[02:52] <zambaboo> hey guys
[02:53] <RawSewage> Key pairs is too confusing for me to figure out
[02:53] <Warbo> RawSewage: The device mapper (LVM) can transparently encrypt your filesystem if you want it to
[02:53] <RawSewage> hm
[02:53] <RawSewage> where do I find that setting
[02:53] <zahlerstreik> Warbo: Mine's a WiFi card
[02:53] <Warbo> RawSewage: I keep screwing up my system and having to reinstall, so I don't trust myself doing this :)
[02:53] <mo0se> where's xorg located?
[02:53] <Warbo> zahlerstreik: Mine is PCI
[02:53] <Warbo> mo0se: /usr/X11R6
[02:54] <mo0se> warbo: thanks.
[02:54] <RawSewage> Warbo, you mean you forget your password?
[02:54] <linux_user400354> RawSewage, you lock your computer with a bios password so no one can pop in a live cd
[02:54] <zahlerstreik> mines PCI too
[02:54] <zambaboo> dapper64 here, trying to get compiz to work, running into the GLXFBConfig problem. tried installing compiz-vanilla, looks like it depends on libgl1-mesa-6.5, which is not available. ideas?
[02:54] <linux_user400354> RawSewage, anyone can pop in a live cd and view windows files too
[02:54] <Warbo> RawSewage: All of the keys would be lost if I had to reinstall (I would lose all of my personal [non OS]  files)
[02:54] <hanasaki> what is the name of the package that lets you move between gnome vitual screens by moving past the edge of the current screen?
[02:54] <linux_user> downloading a file in firefox and i get this script that comes up, dont know what to do with it:#!/bin/sh
[02:54] <linux_user> # This script was generated using Makeself 2.0.1
[02:54] <linux_user> CRCsum=764522044
[02:54] <linux_user> MD5=cb6bf6b03b0c6adea600f7b0916ec473
[02:54] <linux_user> TMPROOT=${TMPDIR:=/tmp}
[02:54] <nbjayme> Warbo,  can ffmpeg2theora combine two separate files (audio and video) to one?
[02:54] <linux_user> label="Unreal Tournament 2003 for GNU/Linux Demo 2206"
[02:54] <roostishaw> if I have just my home folder on a seperate partition, what will I lose if I reinstall over the other partition?
[02:54] <linux_user> script="./unpack_setup_stuff.sh"
[02:54] <linux_user> scriptargs=""
[02:54] <linux_user> targetdir="ut2003lnx-demo-2206"
[02:54] <linux_user> keep=n
[02:54] <LjL> !pastebin
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:54] <zambaboo> heh
[02:54] <RawSewage> Warbo, ok, then summary:  just use a quick 3 char password
[02:54] <hanasaki> what is the name of the package that lets you move between gnome vitual screens by moving past the edge of the current screen?
[02:55] <RawSewage> and forget about security
[02:55] <zambaboo> anything else like compiz out there?
[02:55] <Warbo> nbjayme: I don't know, but I use mencoder to do that (to produce a YUV stream which is lossless, so no loss of quality) then I use ffmpeg2theora to encode that audio/video file into an OGG with sound
[02:55] <zahlerstreik> Does anyone know how to get the rt61 ralink WiFi card work?
[02:55] <LjL> hanasaki: brightside possibly
[02:56] <zahlerstreik> to work*
[02:56] <method|> one of my drives is being recognized as being full. In windows it doesnt show up as full. I even deleted some stuff, emptied trash and it still shows up as full. How do I solve this?
[02:56] <hanasaki> yes thanks!
[02:56] <zahlerstreik> method: what filesystem is the drive
[02:56] <method|> fat
[02:56] <Warbo> method|: "Free Space" on a drive is NOT the same as free space in a partition
[02:57] <zahlerstreik> fat? fat is pretty useless unless its a USB drive
[02:57] <linux_user> im am downloading ut2003 in firefox and a i get a script that is being downloaded, what do i do with this?
[02:57] <zahlerstreik> or is it fat32
[02:57] <method|> fat32
[02:57] <zahlerstreik> yeah
[02:57] <zahlerstreik> why do you have that?
[02:57] <method|> what should I have?
[02:57] <zahlerstreik> make sure when you mount the drive you specify that it is fat32
[02:57] <Warbo> method|: Your FAT paritition may be able to save some more data (ie. it has some free space) but the fat32 partiton is actually taking up the whole of the drive (so there is no free space_)
[02:58] <zahlerstreik> anyone know how to install rt61 ralink wifi driver?
[02:58] <roostishaw> if I have just my home folder on a seperate partition, what will I lose if I reinstall over the other partition?
[02:58] <kbrooks> roostishaw: what "other partition"?
[02:58] <LjL> roostishaw: ... everything except your home?
[02:58] <zahlerstreik> everything except the data in yor home partition
[02:59] <Warbo> roostishaw: Generic system-wide settings are saved in /etc, but user-specific pereferences are in your home folder
[02:59] <roostishaw> LjL, yes
[02:59] <Healot> roostishaw: you can write the /home entry again, manually or using the partitioner
[02:59] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, As far as I know rt61 do not have a drive for linux
[02:59] <zahlerstreik> yeah
[02:59] <zahlerstreik> they do
[02:59] <LjL> roostishaw, i mean, you will lose everything but your home. but that's quite obvious, so i'm not sure i understand the question
[02:59] <zahlerstreik> i have it
[02:59] <LjL> bah
[03:00] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, Even ndiswrapper does not install that
[03:00] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, sorry about that
[03:00] <zahlerstreik> ive read many how-tos using ndiswrapper to install the windos driver
[03:00] <zahlerstreik> i got it to work on breezy
[03:00] <Healot> rt 2xxx
[03:00] <PORDO> CAN SOMEONE do me a favor, and tell me what profile name your default users have in this file /etc/desktop-profiles/users.xml
[03:00] <zahlerstreik> no
[03:00] <zahlerstreik> well yeah
[03:00] <Warbo> GaiaX11: I have used that driver and it worked out of the box (but only once, then it screwed)
[03:00] <zahlerstreik> Warbo what card did oyu have
[03:01] <zahlerstreik> i have the rt2561
[03:01] <zambaboo> sigh
[03:01] <zambaboo> silly thing
[03:01] <LjL> PORDO: i do not have an /etc/desktop-profiles directory
[03:01] <Warbo> zahlerstreik: Er, it is a pretty generic one, but it uses that chipset and driver
[03:01] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, it is better to change your card to a rt8180
[03:01] <PORDO> ?!
[03:01] <PORDO> are you usin dapper?
[03:01] <Anderson> Can anyone point me to information regarding which credentials are verified on a CLO certificate for the PKI infrastructure?
[03:01] <zambaboo> how can i find out if mesa-6.5 is available for ubuntu64?
[03:01] <zahlerstreik> im on a notebook GaiaX11
[03:01] <LjL> PORDO: yes, kde though
[03:01] <PORDO> ouch
[03:01] <PORDO> thx anyway.
[03:01] <zahlerstreik> do they have an rt8180 for mini-pci
[03:01] <Anderson> Can anyone point me to information regarding which credentials are verified on a CLO certificate for the PKI infrastructure?
[03:02] <zahlerstreik> :(
[03:02] <zahlerstreik> i would if i understood you
[03:02] <Anderson> lol
[03:02] <Anderson> Smart Card logon?
[03:02] <PORDO> you're talking about a web site's digital certificate?
[03:02] <Anderson> Close
[03:02] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, perhaps any1 could ask you this question
[03:02] <PORDO> i love how ZRTP doesn't use any long-term key, so there's no pki to worry about.
[03:03] <zahlerstreik> GaiaX11: what?
[03:03] <Anderson> digital certificate logon for a networked environment
[03:03] <PORDO> interesting.
[03:03] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, I am not used with notebooks
[03:03] <Anderson> It's a windows 2003 active directory environment.
[03:03] <PORDO> GaiaX11 where do you live?
[03:03] <GaiaX11> PORDO, is this a ubuntu question?
[03:04] <PORDO> nah, just curious.
[03:04] <zahlerstreik> lolll
[03:04] <paracelx> help my installation keeps freezing at 86% cd hardware detect :(
[03:04] <zahlerstreik> is there an ubuntu help chanel/
[03:04] <krazykit> zahlerstreik: you're in it
[03:04] <zahlerstreik> blast
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> para did you verify the checksum of the cd?
[03:04] <zahlerstreik> the one problem of open source
[03:04] <zahlerstreik> no support to speak of
[03:04] <paracelx> yep tried 3 differnt cds too
[03:04] <paracelx> and alternate cd
[03:04] <krazykit> zahlerstreik: there's plenty of support.  like the forums
[03:05] <zahlerstreik> forms have no answer for my question
[03:05] <paracelx> one of the cds was purchased from ubuntu
[03:05] <Anderson> zahlerstreik, open source is by far the most reputable, globally supported software
[03:05] <co-pengen> #semarang
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> paracelx: what hardware are you using
[03:05] <zahlerstreik> yeah
[03:05] <zahlerstreik> im sure it is
[03:05] <krazykit> zahlerstreik: IRC is just iffy because it goes fast and sometimes someone that knows isn't around
[03:05] <Anderson> what's your issue?
[03:05] <Healot> damn indonesian...
[03:05] <zahlerstreik> rt61 desnt work with ubuntu 6.06
[03:05] <jfm3> Wow. Big channel. Hey what's the command to see what part of /etc/apt/sources.list a particular deb on the system came from?
[03:05] <zahlerstreik> i dont know how to configure it
[03:05] <PORDO> can someone using gnome in dapper please just tell me what profile most/all of the users in your /etc/desktop-profiles/users.xml belong to?
[03:05] <Anderson> !info rt61
[03:05] <ubotu> Package rt61 does not exist in dapper
[03:05] <Anderson> what is rt61?
[03:06] <zahlerstreik> it's a rt2561 wifi card
[03:06] <PORDO> arghh...i'm going to try something...
[03:06] <zahlerstreik> rt61 is the driver
[03:06] <paracelx> i have tried using linux irqpoll noapic any other sugestions?
[03:06] <jfm3> PORDO: I have no /etc/desktop-profiles directory
[03:06] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, so far, rt61 has no support in Linux
[03:06] <Warbo> So nobody can help me with this CD writing issue?
[03:07] <zahlerstreik> GaiaX11: go to the RaLink website, and look at the drivers. there is a linux one
[03:07] <krazykit> zahlerstreik: i've not heard of an rt61 driver... i thought the rt2500 project would cover it
[03:07] <Warbo> zahlerstreik: You don't need to download the RaLink driver, it is already in the kernel
[03:07] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, that will not work
[03:07] <zahlerstreik> Warbo: the card still does not work though
[03:08] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, with ndiswrapper it will say:
[03:08] <zahlerstreik> there is a networking icon and when i click i get the error "SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device"
[03:08] <MahadmaGanjA> hello @all !
[03:09] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik,  drive present.
[03:09] <zahlerstreik> and ra0 is in my iwconfig but when i do dhclient ra0 the sstem locks up
[03:09] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, but it will not say: hardware present
[03:09] <zahlerstreik> and when i click the netwrk utility the system freezes and it says "SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device"
[03:09] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, this is the problem
[03:09] <zahlerstreik> what
[03:09] <Healot> hence the SIO flag zahlerstreik
[03:10] <Healot> and the freezing happens
[03:10] <zahlerstreik> what does a SIO flag mean
[03:10] <ParaSiteX> I just changed my fstab and did sudo mount, but it doesn't accept my changes
[03:10] <GTroy> !codecs
[03:10] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:10] <Warbo> ParaSiteX: sudo mount -a?
[03:11] <zahlerstreik> GaiaX11: what, then, is the problem/
[03:11] <MahadmaGanjA> are there any known issues with the live-cd-installer ? My system freezes @45 percent  every time i try to install ubuntu
[03:11] <zambaboo> how can i find out if mesa-6.5 is available for ubuntu64?
[03:11] <zambaboo> er
[03:11] <zambaboo> yeah
[03:11] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, it shoud say: drive present, hardware present
[03:12] <zahlerstreik> GaiaX11: where/
[03:12] <jason> what is a good desktop manager to download and how
[03:12] <Warbo> jason: Desktop manager? Like GNOME?
[03:12] <Cntryboy> Should unreal tournament original version be so choppy with 2113.814 FPS?
[03:12] <jason> um.......yeah
[03:13] <jason> i just want a differnt look other than gnome
[03:13] <GaiaX11> After installing the rt61.inf
[03:13] <Cntryboy> glxgears gives me 2113.814 FPS I mean
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jason: try kubuntu
[03:13] <zahlerstreik> i didnt install a windows driver
[03:13] <zahlerstreik> i installed the linux driver
[03:13] <Warbo> jason: GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, E16, E17, WindowMaker, BlackBox, IceWM
[03:13] <MahadmaGanjA> can anybody help me ?
[03:13] <MahadmaGanjA> installation problems
[03:13] <zahlerstreik> ganja
[03:13] <blind> Fluxbox ftw
[03:13] <Warbo> !helpme
[03:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:13] <zahlerstreik> yeah
[03:13] <GMullen> whats the command to create a directory from the command line?>
[03:13] <blind> mkdir
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> MahadmaGanjA: what hardware are you running
[03:13] <GMullen> thx blind
[03:13] <blind> no problem
[03:14] <MahadmaGanjA> 1.8ghz duron
[03:14] <MahadmaGanjA> ati radeon 7500
[03:14] <GMullen> i dont know why i can never remember that command
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> dinner is ready back in a few
[03:14] <MahadmaGanjA> 512mb ram
[03:14] <zahlerstreik> GaiaX11 would you know how to setup this card then?
[03:14] <MahadmaGanjA> everything on the livecd runs fine
[03:14] <MahadmaGanjA> even my usb wlan adaptor was fully automatically installed and configured
[03:14] <jsestri2> what causes /dev/dsp to be in use by something, and limit its use by another program?
[03:15] <MahadmaGanjA> but the installation always freezes at 45percent
[03:15] <MahadmaGanjA> i also tried it with an nvidia card, disconnected my secondary hd , tried 2 different cdrom-drives
[03:15] <co-pengen> #semarang
[03:16] <Warbo> jsestri2: That is when old programs try to use OSS (Open Sound System) which was replaced a whiole ago with ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture). The reason ALSA is better than OSS is that with OSS only one program can access the soundcard at a time (hence "device is in use") whilst ALSA lets loads
[03:16] <krazykit> jsestri2: it's usually an app taking it up, instead of using ALSA or ESD.  try doing lsof /dev/dsp to see what's using it
[03:16] <zahlerstreik> anyone: what command would i use to find my kernel version?
[03:16] <Cntryboy> I guess i'll never figure this problem out :( no one ever answer me
[03:16] <jsestri2> Warbo: krazykit: ok...I'm trying to use MythTV, it was working for a while and on the last restart it just decided to stop...
[03:17] <jsestri2> krazykit: i get nothing when i lsof /dev/dsp
[03:17] <MahadmaGanjA> is there any other way of installing than running the livecd and using install ??
[03:17] <zahlerstreik> anyone know what command displays the version linux kernel i have/
[03:17] <krazykit> zahlerstreik: uname -r
[03:17] <Warbo> MahadmaGanjA: You can try the alternate CD
[03:17] <zahlerstreik> ty
[03:17] <MahadmaGanjA> good idea
[03:18] <krazykit> jsestri2: you might need sudo privs, i don't recall
[03:18] <Warbo> MahadmaGanjA: Should be in the same download location as the regular disc
[03:18] <MahadmaGanjA> now i only need a disc to burn it on :/
[03:18] <jackson> lol
[03:18] <jsestri2> krazykit: dosen't make a diff...same thing: nothing
[03:18] <downtime> hi can anyone tell me the advantage of using XFCE on ubuntu?
[03:18] <Warbo> MahadmaGanjA: Well at least your CD Writer seems to be working, mine doesn't :(
[03:18] <MahadmaGanjA> mine WAS working
[03:18] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, I know how to set up it, but the problem is that the hardware is not recognized by the linux kernel. I tried to set up this card many times in a friend's machine but the hardware was never recognized.
[03:18] <Warbo> downtime: Speed
[03:18] <jsestri2> krazykit: sound works with other programs...
[03:19] <MahadmaGanjA> since i deleted my older primary partition i dont know if my cdwriter is working
[03:19] <vinboy> is there anything similar to Window Movie Maker  on linux?
[03:19] <krazykit> vinboy: probably kino or cinerella
[03:19] <Warbo> vinboy: Kino, LiVES, a few others
[03:19] <vinboy> thanks
[03:19] <jsestri2> krazykit: is there a  different device I should point MythTv to?
[03:20] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, so it was not possible to activate the card and to set up IP (etc...)
[03:20] <PORDO> hi folks...i need this file. /etc/desktop-profiles/Default.zip
[03:20] <downtime> Is xfce that much of an improvement over GNOME
[03:20] <PORDO> no!
[03:20] <PORDO> it sucks.
[03:20] <PORDO> gnome rules.
[03:20] <krazykit> jsestri2: dunno, i don't use mythtv.  maybe it has an alsa option
[03:20] <krazykit> PORDO: it doesn't suck
[03:20] <PORDO> i've tried xfce every so often as it "progresses", and i'm always astounded at how horrible it is.
[03:20] <PORDO> i say it does suck.
[03:20] <jsestri2> krazykit: i took a look, its pretty limited, although it allows you to choose the audio device
[03:20] <Warbo> downtime: They are not after the same goal. XFCE is designed for slower systems, GNOME is designed to offer everything
[03:20] <spikeb> this is not the place for DE wars.
[03:21] <PORDO> we're being pragmatic here spikeb
[03:21] <Healot> damn
[03:21] <Healot> !offtopic
[03:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:21] <downtime> I see warbo thank you
[03:21] <crimsun_> PORDO: just because you don't like it doesn't mean it sucks. End of discussion.
[03:21] <MrKeuner> is it possible to turn off the bluetooth device?
[03:21] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, If you go to the net you will notice that many people have faced config problems with this card
[03:21] <zahlerstreik> i try to do "make" but nothing happens
[03:21] <jsestri2> krazykit: should "lsof /dev/dsp" be returning nothing?
[03:21] <zahlerstreik> why is this?
[03:21] <PORDO> crimsun_ i never said that's why it sucks. i can go into the reasons it sucks if you like.
[03:21] <jtrask> hi all, im having trouble finding any information for how to run x86 software under amd64... any references?
[03:21] <crimsun_> PORDO: -offtopic, sure
[03:21] <PORDO> but i never claimed that the reason it sucks is that i don't like it.  i don't think i said anything remotely like that.
[03:21] <rixth_> Is wikipedia down?
[03:21] <PORDO> okay.
[03:22] <nbjayme> Warbo, i've found it.... at last! (i hope)  http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/ogmtools/
[03:22] <krazykit> jsestri2: it should return nothing if nothing is using it.
[03:22] <PORDO> crimsun_ could you please send me /etc/desktop-profiles/Default.zip
[03:22] <PORDO> or whatever it's called.
[03:22] <jsestri2> crimsun_: my mythtv says that /dev/dsp is in use, so it can't use it, but an lsof is returning nothing...have I missed something?
[03:23] <crimsun_> PORDO: that doesn't exist on my system.
[03:23] <PORDO> ?!
[03:23] <GaiaX11> zahlerstreik, try to change that card. Must there be a way
[03:23] <PORDO> crimsun_ does anything ending in .zip exist there?
[03:23] <crimsun_> /etc/desktop-profiles itself is nonexistent.
[03:23] <PORDO> this is utterly bizarre.
[03:24] <PORDO> that's supposed to be where sabyon stores profiles.
[03:24] <jason> how do i remove programs from my computer
[03:24] <Warbo> jason: Synaptic Package Manager
[03:24] <PORDO> crimsun_ see this example of someone else who had the "same" problem as me, and how he fixed it. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172344
[03:24] <crimsun_> PORDO: I don't use Sabayon, nor do I have the desktop-profiles package installed.
[03:25] <boga> how can I fix sound lag in Dapper while playing google movies?
[03:25] <MahadmaGanjA> i cant access any of my hard drives ``
[03:25] <MahadmaGanjA> hes unable to mount my external partition
[03:26] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, why not?
[03:26] <MahadmaGanjA> if it type mount /dev/hda5 in the console, he says he couldnt find it
[03:26] <PORDO> crimsun_ i had no idea this was related to a specific package..maybe if i remove it.
[03:26] <jason> whats is a desktop manager that sorta looks like OSX
[03:26] <jsestri2> crimsun_ do you have any ideas what could cause the program to think that my sound device is in use, when it clearly isnt?
[03:26] <MahadmaGanjA> if i use places - computer and click on the drive
[03:27] <PORDO> crimsun_ here is the basic error i'm getting in .xsession-errors http://www.google.com/notebook/fullpage
[03:27] <PORDO> oops
[03:27] <crimsun_> jsestri2: there are nearly infinite possibilities.
[03:27] <PORDO> http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[03:27] <MahadmaGanjA> he says unable to mount the selected device
[03:27] <krazykit> jason: with enough tweaking, they all can, really.
[03:27] <kbrooks> how do i determine if i'm firewaled?
[03:27] <jsestri2> crimsun_: any ideas to narrow down the search?
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jason:  use kubuntu with KDE and it has OSX theme
[03:27] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, what do you have in your /mnt?
[03:27] <MahadmaGanjA> drive is not removable
[03:27] <crimsun_> jsestri2: ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*'' returns nothing useful?
[03:28] <MahadmaGanjA> gaia: seems to be empty
[03:28] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, so this is the problem
[03:29] <MahadmaGanjA> how can it be solved ?
[03:29] <jsestri2> crimsun_: /dev/snd is in use by pcmC0D0p, timer and controlC0, but none of that should affect /dev/dsp...correct?
[03:29] <GaiaX11> do ls /mnt
[03:29] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, What do you see now?
[03:29] <MahadmaGanjA> nothing
[03:29] <jsestri2> crimsun_ basically my program was running fine before I restarted, and all of a sudden it thinks /dev/dsp is in use
[03:29] <MahadmaGanjA> the same as before
[03:29] <Healot> MahadmaGanjA: you're on pot?
[03:29] <crimsun_> jsestri2: /dev/dsp is in use if /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p is in use, because /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p /provides/ /dev/dsp
[03:29] <MahadmaGanjA> yes , but i dont think thats the problem
[03:29] <boxemall> i'm back again. after a hundreds of tryouts and fresh installs of ubuntu my soundcard still does not work
[03:30] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, you have to create the directories there
[03:30] <boxemall> i am now at a point where i don't know what to do anymore
[03:30] <dragoon> hey guys, is there anyway that i can make gmplayer play movies fullscreen over two monitors
[03:30] <jsestri2> crimsun_ what is esd? that command has all the pcmC0D0p's
[03:30] <MahadmaGanjA> directories ?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> boxemall: have you looked to see if your card is supported or at least asla
[03:30] <boxemall> it seems that this was my last linux journey
[03:30] <MahadmaGanjA> sorry , im no native english speaker
[03:31] <crimsun_> jsestri2: it's an application-layer mixing daemon. Uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable software sound mixing (ESD)
[03:31] <MahadmaGanjA> i recently partitioned my hdd
[03:31] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, do this: mkdir cdrom dvd fd0 hdc1 hdc3 hdc5
[03:31] <MahadmaGanjA> in 3 parts
[03:31] <boxemall> yes it is a DMX&FIRE (Terratec) with well known ICE1712 chipset
[03:31] <MahadmaGanjA> and want to access my old ntfs partition now
[03:31] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, in the /mnt
[03:31] <MahadmaGanjA> ok ,ill try
[03:31] <crimsun_> boxemall: are you using 2.6.15-25.43?
[03:32] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, have you?
[03:32] <PORDO> crimsun_ i don't have any package called "desktop-profiles"
[03:32] <jsestri2> crimsun_ alright thanks, its working now. Must've been it. I learn a little more about this OS every day...thanks for the help
[03:32] <MahadmaGanjA> mom
[03:32] <MahadmaGanjA> permission denied
[03:32] <stupidregcrap> I just deleted all the partitions and reinstalled ubuntu from scratch. I installed it just the same as before except now the root is way larger, but now /dev/modem doesn't exist. WHY?
[03:32] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, with sudo
[03:32] <boxemall> crimsun - Yes i am. just took a look in synaptic to be sure
[03:33] <stupidregcrap> wvdial no longer works
[03:33] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, sudo mkdir
[03:33] <boga> how can I fix sound lag in Dapper while playing google movies?
[03:33] <boxemall> crimsun - is there an issue with that kernel version?
[03:33] <MahadmaGanjA> ok
[03:33] <MahadmaGanjA> now i see the folders
[03:33] <crimsun_> PORDO: it's a universe package available in breezy, dapper, and edgy.
[03:33] <crimsun_> boxemall: difficult to say. pastebin ``amixer''
[03:34] <boxemall> crimsun -  i searched google and found (it must have been you) someones post who complained about a kernel problem
[03:34] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, do this: sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /mnt/hdc5; cd hdc5; ls
[03:34] <varsendaggr> is the slashdot effect only for when sites are mentioned in slahsdot or when other sites run the story?
[03:34] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, So (...)
[03:34] <boxemall> crimsun - plase some instructions! what is amixer?
[03:35] <dragoon> hey guys, is there anyway that i can make gmplayer play movies fullscreen over two monitors
[03:35] <jsestri2> boxemall: a command
[03:35] <jsestri2> boxemall: type it at the command line and pastebin the output
[03:35] <MahadmaGanjA> special device does not exist
[03:35] <Madpilot> varsendaggr, it could apply to other popular sites too - "the boingboing effect" or something like that :)
[03:35] <boxemall> jsestri2 - ok
[03:35] <varsendaggr> dragoon, do you have the two monitors set up?
[03:35] <stupidregcrap> I just deleted all the partitions and reinstalled ubuntu from scratch. I installed it just the same as before except now the root is way larger, but now /dev/modem doesn't exist. WHY?
[03:35] <dragoon> varsendaggr: yes...
[03:35] <wastrel> is there a good howto for setting up spam filtering (maybe spamassassin) in ubunto
[03:36] <MahadmaGanjA> is there any console-in-the-window application ? i dont like switching between terminals that often
[03:36] <odres> anyone got any ideas how to strip ubuntu
[03:36] <Madpilot> odres, what do you mean by 'strip'?
[03:36] <varsendaggr> dragoon, because you can just mplayer -zoom 3   yourmovie.avi   and scale the aplication window
[03:36] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, in the /mnt do:
[03:36] <varsendaggr> i think
[03:36] <wastrel> MahadmaGanjA:  gnome-terminal supports tabs
[03:37] <GaiaX11> sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /mnt/hdc5
[03:37] <varsendaggr> Madpilot.  ok
[03:37] <boxemall> crimsun - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16405
[03:37] <an0malist> how do I open up a file browser in SU mode?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> boxemall: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Terratec&card=DMX6Fire&chip=Envy24&module=ice1712
[03:37] <dibblego> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50836 Please ``apt-get --reinstall install libgtk2.0-common libgtk2.0-0'' - but reinstall is an invalid option to apt-get?
[03:37] <pppoe_dude> an0malist, sudo nautilus
[03:37] <an0malist> thx
[03:37] <odres> basically get rid of all the unnecessary software I think 5 GB is a bit too much
[03:37] <pppoe_dude> &
[03:37] <boxemall> Jack_sparrow - i already followed the tips on that page. did not help at all
[03:37] <pppoe_dude> an0malist, sudo nautilus&
[03:37] <MahadmaGanjA> special device does not exist
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:37] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, Nothing?
[03:38] <MahadmaGanjA> nothing
[03:38] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, look at in your /dev
[03:38] <Madpilot> odres, the basic install is only about 1.8Gb - and "unnecessary" is an individual thing... you could do a server install, then install just the basic X+DE/WM stuff, if you really wanted to
[03:38] <pppoe_dude> odres, i just did a fresh install and it only took 2.3GB
[03:39] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, and try to find hdc1 hdc3 and hdc5
[03:39] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, Are they there?
[03:39] <boxemall> is there a way to solve my problem?
[03:39] <MahadmaGanjA> 4` clock already.... ill go to sleep now.
[03:39] <MahadmaGanjA> thanks for the help!
[03:39] <MahadmaGanjA> no gaia
[03:39] <MahadmaGanjA> but thanks !
[03:39] <dragoon> varsendaggr: and you wanted to know that why ?
[03:39] <MahadmaGanjA> bye
[03:40] <GaiaX11> MahadmaGanjA, any of them?
[03:40] <boxemall> i found something on google where someone said ac97codec should not be loaded with ice1712 chipset cards
[03:40] <pppoe_dude> PPP
[03:40] <nbjayme> hello all...can anybody please help me find a tool that converts gif to avi or mpeg or any compatible input file to oggenc? .... help...
[03:40] <varsendaggr> dragoon, what why?
[03:40] <boxemall> how do i blacklist modules?
[03:40] <varsendaggr> nbjayme, mencoder
[03:40] <pppoe_dude> boxemall, kernel modules?
[03:40] <odres> mmm what am I doing wrong, it was like that in the beginning, but it keeps on getting bitter, all I know is that I stripped OSX from 3 GB to 700 MB just by cleaning fonts and unneccesary languages
[03:40] <nbjayme> varsendaggr,   thanks.... i'll take a look at it... :)
[03:41] <PORDO> okay, square one: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[03:41] <boxemall> well i don't even know if it is a kernel module
[03:41] <an0malist> ppoe:  what was the purpose of the & at the end of nautilus?
[03:41] <an0malist> it works btw, thanks
[03:41] <odres> and a custom install of course
[03:41] <dragoon> varsendaggr: mplayer shows no video :|
[03:41] <pppoe_dude> an0malist, so that it runs as a separate process and gives you the prompt back
[03:41] <PORDO> odres that's amazing.  if only you could make some sort of backup of that, or a tool to automate what you did.
[03:41] <an0malist> gotcha
[03:42] <slew> whats a good app for converting mp3s to ogg?
[03:42] <dragoon> mp32ogg
[03:42] <odres> how do I do that with ubuntu
[03:42] <slew> heh
[03:42] <slew> k
[03:42] <varsendaggr> dragoon, what do you mean?
[03:42] <Madpilot> odres, getting rid of the international fonts in Ubuntu would save you a good chunk of space - there aren't many actual language packs installed by default, tho
[03:43] <dragoon> mplayer shows no video. gmplayer does =\
[03:43] <odres> also anyone has some experience with prelinking ?
[03:43] <Toma-> slew: soundconverter
[03:43] <slew> Toma-, better than mp32ogg?
[03:43] <varsendaggr> dragoon, are you sure....
[03:43] <dragoon> there we go
[03:43] <Toma-> slew: its gui, does batches and preserves id3 info?
[03:43] <varsendaggr> all i use is mplayer
[03:44] <GaiaX11> dragoon, I have not seen that before
[03:44] <crimsun_> boxemall: cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:44] <dragoon> varsendaggr: scaling the window doesnt look as good though...
[03:44] <varsendaggr> dragoon,  .....
[03:44] <PORDO> slew it's a really really bad idea to convert mp3 to vorbis.
[03:44] <dragoon> what
[03:44] <Quest> Hey everyone.
[03:44] <ice60> hi, can i use the Gnome/Beagle search applet with my Breezy install, or does it only work with Dapper and the newer gnome version it uses? thanks
[03:44] <slew> PORDO, whys that? loss of quality?
[03:45] <GaiaX11> dragoon, do you have win32codecs installed?
[03:45] <Madpilot> slew, they're both lossy formats, you're going to loose quality
[03:45] <PORDO> slew sigh...
[03:45] <PORDO> slew because vorbis is a lossy codec.
[03:45] <Toma-> PORDO: how so? shouldnt it be "Its favorable to convert CD to Ogg rather than Mp3 to Ogg as you dont get any benefit"
[03:45] <ozzloy> my resolution is stuck at 640X480, how do i increase it?  xorg.conf looks like it has the right info, but it's not showing up in "system->preferences->screen resolution"
[03:45] <Quest> Quick dumb question. I got a hosting server, it dont have cc or gcc installed. Where can i find cc to install. I tried gcc but i get gcc not found - cc not found. Suggestions please on how to fix this? any help would be amazing - thanks in advance
[03:45] <PORDO> slew it only makes sense to encode to vorbis from the original source.  there's not much use doing it after you've already made an mp3 out of it.
[03:45] <ozzloy> how do i fix my resolution?
[03:45] <dragoon> GaiaX11: yes, it was a problem with the mplayer when i compiled it from source, removed it and was fine....
[03:45] <odres> anyone has some experience with prelinking ?
[03:45] <varsendaggr> ask the person to encode it at 2048 x 768
[03:45] <PORDO> Toma- you mean vorbis, not ogg.
[03:45] <dragoon> all i want to do is make player span ove two monitors in fullscren mode...
[03:45] <Madpilot> ozzloy, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:45] <boxemall> crimsun -  cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:46] <Toma-> PORDO: same container, different spelling :)
[03:46] <miguelsr> !automatix
[03:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[03:46] <ozzloy> Madpilot: thanx
[03:46] <crimsun_> boxemall: (the output)
[03:46] <slew> PORDO, the thing is its a new install of ubunutu, i have a back up of all my music in mp3 format. youre saying its just as good to keep them as mp3s and bring new music in as ogg?
[03:46] <Toma-> !easyubuntu
[03:46] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:46] <PORDO> Toma- yes, you should convert from CD to vorbis.  but from mp3 to vorbis is silly.  you're not accomplishing anything, and you're losing quality.
[03:46] <zenwhen> anyone know of a good tool for performing a backup to a set of dvds?
[03:46] <boxemall> crimsun -  sorry was my fault here it is: 0 snd_ice1712
[03:46] <odres> just a question does realplayer (latest version) support Alsa ?
[03:46] <Toma-> PORDO: agreed.
[03:46] <PORDO> slew not just as good, BETTER
[03:46] <GaiaX11> dragoon, uninstall it and install from apt-get rather than source
[03:46] <stardash> hello, I have a question. I am trying to install nvidia drivers, and need to kill x to get them in how do I go about this.
[03:46] <slew> PORDO, thanks
[03:47] <PORDO> slew in the future, encode all your music to vorbis, or better still, to FLAC (lossless!).  but once you've gone to the dark side, you're wasting time trying to come back.
[03:47] <dragoon> GaiaX11: i did that.
[03:47] <PORDO> slew np
[03:47] <Toma-> slew: i have a pile of old dusty MP3's in 1 folder and all my shiny CD converted oggs in another folder
[03:47] <slew> =] 
[03:47] <PORDO> i love my 250gb hard drive.  FLAC rules. :)
[03:47] <Quest> can anyone help me with my question please?
[03:47] <GaiaX11> dragoon, did you purge that?
[03:48] <PORDO> can someone look at this problem i'm having logging in?  this is my xsession-errors: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[03:48] <Toma-> is flac supported by any mp3 players (ala ipod, zen)?
[03:48] <dragoon> GaiaX11: i removed the one from source, and installed it from atp.
[03:48] <dragoon> apt*
[03:48] <crimsun_> boxemall: have you installed alsa-tools-gui ?
[03:48] <PORDO> Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services": No such file or directory
[03:48] <andyleung> Hi, I want to turn off some services that I don't need in rc.d or init.d, I checked wiki and forum, most of them are talking about using some tools; but I know there is a command like 'link' or similar that will do the job, any clue?
[03:48] <crimsun_> boxemall: use the envy24control utility.
[03:49] <Madpilot> Toma-, iRiver might support FLAC, not sure - the trouble is that FLAC is so big you wouldn't get many songs on the player
[03:49] <Toma-> PORDO: /usr/local/share you say?
[03:49] <PORDO> crimsun_ any idea why it's trying usr/local as opposed to /usr/
[03:49] <PORDO> Toma- yeah, i just noticed that.
[03:49] <Toma-> oic
[03:49] <Toma-> PORDO: compiled anything from source lately?
[03:49] <Toma-> PORDO: LOL.
[03:49] <maximo> hola alguien habla espaol?
[03:50] <PORDO> yeah, Tapioca, which sucks because it only lets you use Google's Jingle servers.
[03:50] <Quest> can someone tell me where to find download link for cc please / how to install it apt-get install cc dont work :-s
[03:50] <Madpilot> !es
[03:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <Quest> i am a newb, please offer some help
[03:50] <GaiaX11> dragoon, are you sure you removed every single file from mplayer source? It seems to be any kind of conflict with the old one
[03:50] <Madpilot> Quest, what's cc?
[03:50] <boxemall> crimsun -  i think there is a bigger problem
[03:50] <Toma-> PORDO: also uses dbus i presume?
[03:50] <Quest> maddler C compiler
[03:50] <PORDO> Toma- yeah, i think so.
[03:50] <jason> how can i get info from another partion on my hard drive
[03:50] <Madpilot> Quest, sudo apt-get install build-essential for all the compiler stuff
[03:50] <Quest> i am trying to install tcl and apache and i get gcc not found - cc not found
[03:50] <boxemall> crimsun - no matter what i enter in a terminal, i always get strange (unwanted) output.
[03:51] <Quest> arr i will give it a try Madpilot
[03:51] <Madpilot> Quest, apache is available in the repos - no need to compile it
[03:51] <Quest> what does sudo do / mean - sorry still learning
[03:51] <dragoon> GaiaX11: i removed it , and it works fine, thats what is said up there
[03:51] <Toma-> PORDO: might seem trivial, but how about compiling again but use ./configure --prefix=/usr
[03:51] <odres> just a question does realplayer (latest version) support Alsa ?
[03:51] <noiesmo> hello all I have a folder i want to archive and encrypt and I used kgpg now when i go to restore the folder it errors unencrypting it and the resulting zip file is corrupt and I am unable to retrieve the data anyone got any suggestions
[03:51] <Toma-> PORDO: somewhere it might have installed a dbus session and changed the env variable for some ungodly reason
[03:51] <Quest> Madpilot: one other question - when i use apt-get some time i get - please insiert CD - why?
[03:52] <PORDO> Toma- oh wait actually..i didn't compile. i installed from packages.  the thing i compiled was Zfone.  but what would that have to do with programs that i'm starting up with?
[03:52] <crimsun_> boxemall: ok, backtrack. What type of output do you get?
[03:52] <Madpilot> Quest, because you've still got your install CD listed in sources.list
[03:52] <Kazukisan> My sound works great and everything for games/wine/music/movies but when i open up team speak and go to settings it ask to select sound the only option is /dev/dsp and other, with dev/dsp it doesnt work i hear no sound and wont let me unmute mic like it cant find a sound card any suggestions ?
[03:52] <boxemall> crimsun -  in this case i only started nautilus with sudo command like this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16406
[03:52] <crimsun_> PORDO: I have no context for the /usr/local query (keep in mind I skip everything not addressed to me)
[03:52] <cheek> DCC SEND 1234567890sendkeylogger
[03:52] <crimsun_> yay.
[03:52] <PORDO> crimsun_ any idea on this, why it's trying /usr/local ?  Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services": No such file or directory
[03:52] <Quest> Madpilot: how do i change that - its a hosting server, i just got root
[03:52] <Toma-> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:52] <Quest> ooooo maybe a netsplit - route issue lol
[03:52] <GaiaX11> dragoon, so why did you say that some things work in gmplayer and not in mplayer?
[03:53] <Quest> anyways good fun
[03:53] <Toma-> oic. K-lined
[03:53] <Madpilot> Toma-, it's dealt with - a staffer k-lined the moron
[03:53] <Toma-> *sorry!*
[03:53] <jason> does anyone know how i can get files from a differnt partion on my hard drive
[03:53] <GaiaX11> dragoon, Is there any essencial diference between them?
[03:53] <Madpilot> Quest, in the command line, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" - the CD should be the first entry in sources.list
[03:53] <Quest> arrr ok Madpilot, your a star - thanks you so much
[03:53] <dragoon> GaiaX11: no, all i want to do is san the movie in fullscreen over both monitors.
[03:54] <PORDO> jason well, start by mounting it.  that was likely taken care of automaticalyl though, so try in /media/
[03:54] <Quest> sudo apt-get install build-essential is off doing its thing now :D
[03:54] <crimsun_> PORDO: is dbus configured to look there on your install? The directly doesn't even exist on my install.
[03:54] <crimsun_> s/directly/directory/
[03:54] <PORDO> which directory?
[03:54] <GaiaX11> dragoon, all right!
[03:54] <PORDO> mine is /usr/ so i don't know why it's looking in /usr/local.  it's causing me this error: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[03:54] <crimsun_> /usr/local/share/dbus-1
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jason, it should be easy.. all of my partitions ntfs fat32 and linux are mounted on boot
[03:54] <Quest> ok Madpilot, one other question if you dont mind. the box is on a 100mb connection - anything you can think of why i am only getting 5 - 6k downloads from wget but apt get shoots up like a rocket
[03:55] <toooo> doesn't mean the fun isn't over! :D
[03:55] <PORDO> crimsun_ i don't have it either.  but it's looking for it there.
[03:55] <toooo> DCC SEND 1234567890sendkeylogger
[03:55] <Toma-> crimsun_: /usr/share/dbus-1/services is on dapper installs, but being a /usr/local folder, it means its 9/10 a self-compiled problem
[03:55] <Quest> does ubotu install fireqalls by default or something?
[03:55] <DaveyJ> hey i have an external drive formatted for ext3 connected via usb/firewire and when i go into administration->disks it says its an unknown file system
[03:55] <DaveyJ> is there any way to retrieve the data off this drive?
[03:55] <Madpilot> more damn idiots...
[03:55] <Madpilot> Quest, no idea
[03:55] <cookiecaper> hello : )
[03:55] <Madpilot> Quest, there's no default firewall, no
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> quest yes
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought there was..
[03:55] <PORDO> Toma- why would something i've installed affect standard startup executables?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> guarddog or something like that
[03:56] <PORDO> i've compiled that is.
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer firestarter for my firewall
[03:56] <jason> i cant mount onto the partion
[03:56] <cookiecaper> I've changed a thing in package checkinstall! how do I find the maintainer or something? I don't think they have SVN/CVS I didn't see anything like that on their site. Maybe I should look around more, but I changed some thing.
[03:56] <Toma-> PORDO: because its set some for of weird dbus problem. its telling dbus to look in /usr/local, when its actually in /usr
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jason do the partitions show up on your desktop?
[03:57] <Toma-> PORDO: pop open /etc/dbus-1/session.conf and scroll on down to <servicedir>
[03:57] <noiesmo> aaaaaaah dam gpg enctyption
[03:58] <PORDO>   <servicedir>/usr/share/dbus-1/services</servicedir>
[03:58] <PORDO>   <servicedir>/usr/local/share/dbus-1/services</servicedir>
[03:58] <dooglus> cookiecaper: you want the maintainer of checkinstall?
[03:58] <jason> jack_sparrow no but in /media it shows it it jsut cant mount it
[03:58] <Toma-> PORDO: try getting rid of that /usr/local line?
[03:58] <PORDO> i just removed zfone.  it's the only thing i've compiled lately.
[03:58] <PORDO> so much for stopping the NSA from spying on me.
[03:59] <cookiecaper> dooglus yeah I guess. I need to suggest some thing be merged into the package so probably right?
[03:59] <boxemall> crimsun - do you have a clue?
[03:59] <dooglus> cookiecaper: isn't it Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com> ?
[03:59] <Toma-> PORDO: try apt-get remove paranoia :)
[03:59] <notyet> still not yet! :D
[03:59] <notyet> DCC SEND 1234567890startkeylogger
[04:00] <Toma-> Newb with IRC shells. *sigh*
[04:00] <cookiecaper> dooglus, man, I don't know. I don't see that on the package page that's the only place I know where to look
[04:00] <dooglus> cookiecaper: how about just raising a bug report instead, with your change?  http://launchpad.net/
[04:00] <cookiecaper> dooglus, ok. : )
[04:01] <dooglus> cookiecaper: I raised a bug in the debian BTS, and he's the one who got back to me about it - maybe he's just the debian checkinstall maintainer though.
[04:01] <cookiecaper> ok
[04:01] <cookiecaper> no matching checkinstall products found ... should I register it?
[04:01] <dooglus> cookiecaper: no, the product is ubuntu - checkinstall is the package
[04:01] <dooglus> cookiecaper: I'll get you a proper URL
[04:02] <cookiecaper> ok, thank you. : )
[04:02] <dooglus> cookiecaper: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/checkinstall/+bugs
[04:02] <noiesmo> well that really sucks I've just lost access to data thanks to gpg encryption and I did test before deleting the unencrypted data and it work now it doesnt and the passpharse is correct bugger it
[04:02] <PORDO> Toma- do you know how many times i call the white house comment line and demand the president to be impeached or step down each week?
[04:02] <Toma-> hahah
[04:03] <PORDO> if the NSA is spying on $#(*ing Quakers, then they're spying on me.
[04:03] <PORDO> i'm a libertarian.  i hate government so much it makes me want to explode.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all... wife needs me to help her... thanks for the info, see you tomorrow.. Jason, sorry I cant stay to help, someone will have the answer
[04:03] <jason> bye bye
[04:03] <Toma-> PORDO: sounds like u should move countrys? :)
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> PORDO: keep it up, we need him GONE for WORLD peace
[04:04] <PORDO> perhaps.  but where to?
[04:04] <cookiecaper> dooglus, thanks : )
[04:04] <jason> any know why i cant mount my other partion?
[04:04] <PORDO> we need ALL government gone, for world peace.
[04:04] <PORDO> we need to abolish all taxation.  but i digress, this is for offtopic.
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Personally, I would send Bush to Iraq..
[04:04] <Madpilot> Folks, this is wildly offtopic...
[04:04] <cappicard> where I can get pine for ubuntu?
[04:04] <Toma-> pine is evil
[04:05] <cappicard> reason I'm asking is that evolution refuses to let me save inline images (it says I got attachments).
[04:05] <Healot> muttNG
[04:06] <boga> ?
[04:06] <ceL_> can someone help me figure out how to get xgl working under dapper?
[04:06] <Toma-> cappicard: well, from the pine homepage unfortunatly
[04:06] <ceL_> ive followed everything and i can't seem to get my nvidia card to get the nvidia module i can only use the nv module
[04:06] <noiesmo> ceL_, go to http://compiz.net check out the howtos
[04:06] <imbrandon> ceL_, #ubuntu-xgl
[04:06] <Ohzie> How do I make xorg not die when I hit shift+backspace, but continue to die with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[04:07] <Ohzie> Like, where would those be?
[04:07] <imbrandon> moins cappicard
[04:08] <cappicard> hey
[04:08] <docgnome> I'm trying to install my HP LaserJet 1018. All the documentation says I need to install foo2zjs. Having done so, not from the package manager as the package is terribly out of date, I try to add the printer with the gnome-cups-manager. It detects the printer, however when I try to select the driver, the list of drivers is empty. When I attempt to use the "Install Driver..." option to install the driver, it says that the driver is
[04:08] <docgnome> already installed... but it doesn't seem to assosiate the printer with it's driver...
[04:08] <pjv> is there a program in linux that is similar to myob?
[04:08] <Healot> gnucash
[04:08] <cappicard> I got my chip out but least I know my xbox is fine.
[04:08] <Healot> but that's every basic accounting bs
[04:08] <Toma-> pjv: i just installed MYOB using wine 0.9.16
[04:08] <Toma-> pjv: but Gnucash2 is where the moneys at.
[04:08] <cappicard> that spider modchip, does it plug into  the power header where the dvd drive gets its power?
[04:09] <pjv> kool thanks guys
[04:09] <cappicard> ( i know it's offtopic, folks)
[04:09] <dooglus> Ohzie: xorg isn't supposed to die if you hit shift-backspace
[04:09] <pjv> Toma: which version of myob did you install?
[04:09] <Toma-> Businessbasics
[04:09] <imbrandon> cappicard, yea
[04:09] <Toma-> the cheap one. its all the same software really, just extra features
[04:09] <jason> why cant i mount the other partion on my hard drive
[04:09] <cappicard> ok. it kinda looked that way
[04:10] <pjv> kool ty
[04:10] <cookiecaper> dooglus, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/checkinstall/+bug/50892 : )
[04:10] <dooglus> jason: can you give more details?
[04:11] <dooglus> cookiecaper: nice work
[04:11] <jason> ok well my haared drive ins slip into 2 partions one for linux and one for windows and i want to be able to get the music from my windows partion onto my linux partion
[04:11] <Toma-> huhu irc emacs
[04:11] <dooglus> cookiecaper: don't be too disappointed if it sits there being ignored for a few months.
[04:11] <jason> but for some reaosn it wont let me mount that partion
[04:11] <Toma-> !windows
[04:11] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:12] <cookiecaper> dooglus, ok. : )
[04:12] <Toma-> woops
[04:12] <dooglus> jason: how about even more details?  like what do you type to mount it, and how does it fail?
[04:12] <dooglus> !ntfs
[04:12] <cookiecaper> dooglus, yeah, Debian had that problem for a long time too, I'm used to it ... and anyway I have the version I just changed now so I don't have to worry about it. : )
[04:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[04:12] <cookiecaper> dooglus, thanks for the help though. : ) I'm leaving, bye. : )
[04:13] <Toma-> thx dooglus :D
[04:13] <dooglus> cookiecaper: it's always good to report the problem though, even if the maintainer doesn't do anything about it.
[04:14] <blocky> can someone tell me how to get a nice font in Eterm?
[04:14] <emdash> has anyone tried the gatos ati.2 driver for tv out on a ppc machine?
[04:14] <emdash> wondering how much work that might end up being
[04:15] <Toma-> lol
[04:15] <PORDO> or taxation or whatever you want to call it.
[04:15] <jason> in medai it shows the other partions and i right click it and click mount i get this error "mount: can not find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /ect/mtab"
[04:15] <emdash> and if there are packages already in ubuntu or not
[04:15] <Toma-> PORDO: ill be here compiling the latest Gnucash to do my taxation on.
[04:16] <PORDO> i'm not talking about tabulating your taxes silly.
[04:16] <Toma-> :P
[04:16] <PORDO> i'm talking about forcing people, by threat of force, to pay taxes in the first place.
[04:17] <PORDO> using terror to make them pay.  and if they get a nice little pro-people militia going, say down in texas or ruby ridge, or whatever, then you kill them.
[04:17] <Healot> you work with IRB?
[04:17] <noiesmo> !gpg
[04:17] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[04:17] <PORDO> dunno what it is. :)
[04:17] <PORDO> but if it inloves slaying government officials, i'm all for it.
[04:17] <Madpilot> PORDO, don't even start here
[04:17] <__mikem> What does this have to do with ubuntu
[04:17] <PORDO> tee hee
[04:18] <dooglus> PORDO: right on, brother.  but can you take it to #ubuntu-anarchy please?
[04:18] <Madpilot> __mikem, nothing, and PORDO knows it
[04:18] <PORDO> i'm in #ubuntu-politics
[04:18] <__mikem> no you are in ubuntu help
[04:18] <PORDO> no i mean, i'm also in that channel.
[04:18] <ozzloy> Madpilot: it worked!
[04:18] <dooglus> he's in more than one place at a time :)
[04:19] <PORDO> i don't understand this internet thing.  i'm 10, and i just got a computer for my birthday this week.  i macintosh lc iii.  it's awesome.  it has a color screen.
[04:19] <__mikem> is #ubuntu-anarchy the new ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:19] <__mikem> PORDO you are 10 and you are using linux?
[04:19] <__mikem> Thats remarkable
[04:19] <Madpilot> __mikem, AFAIK there is no #ubuntu-anarchy... there might be an #anarchy channel
[04:20] <PORDO> what's linux?  i'm using a macintosh LC III.  It says here on the box it was manufactured in menlo park, california on june 3, 1990.
[04:20] <Healot> damn
[04:20] <crimsun_> may I remind everyone that regardless of one's stance on non-Ubuntu topics, this is the official Ubuntu support channel and thus remains open for support requests?
[04:20] <__mikem> ubuntu is a linux distrobution, and this irc chanel is devoted to comunity based linux tech support
[04:20] <PORDO> okay, i'm totally done with the humor...thing.
[04:21] <__mikem> PORDO you are in a linux tech support chanel, and you don't know what linux is, what in gods name is going on here
[04:21] <searunner> hey there Ive just done another Dapper install on an MSI NForce motherboard and teh MCP51 ehternet controller is not behaving
[04:21] <Madpilot> PORDO, the trolling thing, you mean. You've been here long enough
[04:21] <PORDO> if anyone can come up with any solutions to this problem, please lemme know: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/00221891507267986120/BDUsxIgoQ7p_zw8Ah
[04:21] <Madpilot> __mikem, he's trolling. Please ignore him.
[04:21] <jason> in /media it shows the other partions and i right click it and click mount i get this error "mount: can not find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /ect/mtab"
[04:21] <__mikem> Madpilot, why do people like that exist?
[04:22] <Madpilot> __mikem, no idea
[04:22] <Toma-> I told him how to fix it :/ probably too busy to read my response
[04:22] <Healot> the world is fun with variety of people... or is it?
[04:23] <benoy> hey all
[04:23] <searunner> the new dapper looked after the onboard nvidia graphics fine
[04:23] <__mikem> hola
[04:24] <Healot> searunner: so you like what you got?
[04:24] <benoy> I have an external hard drive which I formated into ntfs with windows xp.  I am now trying to put some files from ubuntu onto that hard drive but i get the message that the hard drive is read only.  is there a way around this?
[04:24] <searunner> when I run the downloaded NFORCE drivers from nvidia and run it as root the script first complains of cant find ld so I did a ln -s ld-static ld and then ran the nvidia installler again and it got past that error to only complain of not being able to find objcopy from bin utils
[04:25] <__mikem> searunner, generally ntfs is mounted readonly by default
[04:25] <PacketScan> benoy, don't write to ntfs from linux. unstable.
[04:25] <benoy> ok so what can I do?
[04:25] <searunner> Healot the hardware is fantastic and runs smooth under winxp but I cant get the network happening in ubuntu
[04:25] <PacketScan> readonly
[04:25] <__mikem> sorry searunner, I meant benoy
[04:25] <virtualchaos> does anybody know where i can put a mail command so that sshd emails me immediately on each login attempt?
[04:26] <PacketScan> if you wanted to write you'd have to copy things off then format with something like fat or a native *nix file system if it's staying there.
[04:27] <benoy> can I format it to fat32 on windows xp and then use the hard drive between the windows and ubuntu machine?
[04:27] <molinero> !edgy
[04:27] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[04:27] <dibblego> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50836 ...but there is no such option as "reinstall" to apt-get?
[04:27] <searunner> ok so any help or pointers on the MCP51 ethernet driver for Dapper would be greatly appreciated
[04:28] <vinboy> is there any good firewall for linux?
[04:29] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[04:29] <Lord_Athur> what's DRM? I found the term in the following page http://defectivebydesign.org/join/fsf
[04:30] <DBO> Digital Rights Management
[04:30] <blocky> hey I found this really sexy font called Purisa.ttf - can someone tell me how to load it into Eterm?
[04:30] <MistaED> or direct rendering management
[04:30] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[04:30] <DBO> MistaED, ah right
[04:31] <MistaED> just so none of you get worried when there's an update for libdrm or something, hehe
[04:31] <TheoMurpse> Digital Restrictions Management
[04:32] <__mikem> where do I get evolution for ubuntu
[04:32] <__mikem> not evelution
[04:32] <TheoMurpse> If the recording industry wants to play word games with "Piracy" I'll play the game with "DRM" ;)
[04:32] <__mikem> I mean thunderbird
[04:32] <docgnome> I'm trying to get my HP LaserJet 1018 to work... It is recognized by gnome-cups-manager, and I've used that to install it. I'm using a driver from foo2zjs which is reported to work fine. However, whenever I try to print the job just gets stopped. The status line of the printer properties page reads "Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[04:33] <blocky> anyone know where Eterm looks for fonts to use?
[04:33] <TheoMurpse> So I'm trying to get networking working in Ubuntu. I have some Realtek 10/100 ethernet card, and it works in Windows. When I reboot to Linux, or even do a full shutdown and load up Ubuntu, it doesn't work with DHCP nor with a static IP. The drivers are loaded, and in the Networking config menu, eth0 shows up and everything. What could I do?
[04:33] <nickrud> __mikem, you want to install mozilla-thunderbird
[04:33] <__mikem> is there a package for it
[04:33] <blocky> are you sure you have the correct driver loaded
[04:33] <nickrud> __mikem, yes,
[04:34] <blocky> :P
[04:34] <docgnome> blocky: me? yes.
[04:34] <TheoMurpse> blocky, yes. It worked once a week ago for a couple hours until I turned the computer off, and now it doesn't work anymore.
[04:35] <jason> why do i get an error when i try to mount to my windows partion
[04:35] <HiP_P> what is "/dev/vcas1"?
[04:35] <HiP_P> *what is "/dev/vcsa1"?
[04:35] <sethk> jason, depends on which error you get
[04:35] <jason>  i get this error "mount: can not find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /ect/mtab"
[04:36] <docgnome> jason: what exactly are you typing to mount it?
[04:36] <jason> ................idk i just want stuff from that partion
[04:36] <sethk> jason, I assume you meant /etc/mtab
[04:36] <jason> yyes
[04:36] <jason> yes*
[04:37] <boxemall> crimsun - r u still there?
[04:37] <sethk> jason, try mounting it will all arguments, which tells it not to use fstab
[04:37] <sethk> jason, or put in a line in fstab for it
[04:37] <TheoMurpse> So yes, I'm sure the correct driver is loading.
[04:37] <sethk> jason, something like   mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /somewhere
[04:37] <sethk> jason, or -t ntfs
[04:37] <Iam8up> hmm...i'm using the live cd (5.10) and it didn't pick up on a dhcp lease
[04:37] <TheoMurpse> I run "dhclient eth0" and it won't receive any DHCP assignment. However, all other computers (and mine when running XP) all load properly.
[04:37] <__mikem> ok, thunderbird installed, and conofiguration was insident free, just the way I like it
[04:37] <seamoon> Hi, I'm a linux newbie having some problems after installing ubuntu 6.06 distribution. Anyone wanna help?
[04:38] <Iam8up> let me try that one..
[04:38] <__mikem> HEy Hobbsee
[04:38] <dooglus> !ask
[04:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:38] <sethk> TheoMurpse, what error do you get?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> hi __mikem
[04:38] <TheoMurpse> Also "ifconfig eth0 192.168.40.5" or whatever also won't make a connection. "ping 192.168.40.1" won't work, not even when using the gnome util for setting up networking and giving it a static IPand everything
[04:38] <TheoMurpse> sethk at which step?
[04:39] <seamoon> k, sorry :) Well, everything works fine except that my screen turns black when restarting and "turning off" but the system never actually restarts os goes off.
[04:39] <sethk> TheoMurpse, when you try to get an IP using dhcp?  What happens?  You said it doesn't work but you didn't say what happens
[04:39] <seamoon> Same thing happens when adjusting screen resolution.
[04:39] <TheoMurpse> sethk it sais something a long error word in capital lettesr like DHCPSOMETHINGSOMETHING and tries different numbers (ports on the router???) and I think something about no lease found or something.
[04:39] <__mikem> wow, I have to say, that kind of problem I would never be able to solve on my own
[04:40] <TheoMurpse> sethk I'm googling for the list of errors so I can find the one I get
[04:40] <seamoon> Downloaded ati's latest drivers for linux, but problem persists.
[04:40] <docgnome> does anyone know what "Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" means when it appears of the status line of a properties page for gnome-cups-manager?
[04:40] <sethk> TheoMurpse, the message might be helpful, but that tells us that it is from the dhclient, which is mainly what I wanted to know
[04:40] <__mikem> Should I make the ati/shotgun joke again?
[04:40] <nickrud> __mikem, please :)
[04:40] <nickrud> or not
[04:40] <sethk> TheoMurpse, can you check for errors on the dhcp server?  that might tell us why it fails.
[04:40] <seamoon> Tried to install mandriva earlier today and had the exact same problem..
[04:41] <__mikem> how to use an ati card, step one, mount on wood post, step 2, load shotgun , step 3, fire at will, step 4, buy an nvidia card
[04:41] <TheoMurpse> sethk how would I do that? A router log?
[04:41] <seamoon> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:41] <__mikem> seamoon, if it happened on another distro, it sounds like a hardware problem
[04:41] <nickrud> __mikem, we must have some common friends
[04:41] <docgnome> __mikem: I've got an ATI Radeon 9600 SE working just fine with an apt-get install fglrx
[04:41] <TheoMurpse> sethk We have a Linksys WRT54G. I'll see what I can find about logging
[04:41] <sethk> TheoMurpse, depends on the o/s and the server.  On my linux boxes that are DHCP servers I get messages in either /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log
[04:41] <nickrud> jason, how's the windows mounting going?
[04:41] <jason> not good
[04:41] <jason> idk what im doing
[04:41] <jason> haha
[04:42] <sethk> TheoMurpse, it's wireless, then
[04:42] <Madpilot> __mikem, my ATI 9600XT objects to your joke ;)
[04:42] <__mikem> docgnome, I am just not a fan of ati, had a bad experience with it
[04:42] <jason> im a linux noob
[04:42] <jason> haha
[04:42] <__mikem> Madpilot, like I said not a big fan of ati
[04:42] <nickrud> jason, ok, if you could post the output of sudo fdisk -l and cat /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:42] <Genjuro> alguem pode me dar uma fora eu to irss1 akiii to com um problema com o meu brub
[04:42] <Genjuro> grub*
[04:42] <nickrud> jason, if that's gobbledygook, let me know
[04:43] <TheoMurpse> Ohzie, sethk, yes I'm using a DDWRT-modded Linksys as a wireless bridge (properly configured) in this setup: Computer --ethernet--->DDWRT )))))wireless))) WRT54G Router with DHCP--ethernet-->modem-->internet
[04:43] <__mikem> GEnjuro habla tu en espanol
[04:43] <seamoon> So noone has had the same problem then?
[04:43] <jason> jason@jlinux:~$  sudo fdisk -l
[04:43] <jason> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80032038912 bytes
[04:43] <jason> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9730 cylinders
[04:43] <jason> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:43] <jason>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda1   *           1        6213    49905891    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda2            6214        9583    27069525   83  Linux
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda3            9584        9730     1180777+   5  Extended
[04:43] <jason> /dev/sda5            9584        9730     1180746   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:43] <__mikem> !pastebin
[04:43] <nickrud> jason, oh, paste!! not here
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:43] <sethk> TheoMurpse, but the connection for this box (that's failing dhcp) isn't wireless, right?  Someone was talking about a realtek card, I think you?
[04:43] <__mikem> Genjuro habla tu en espenol
[04:44] <TheoMurpse> sethk: My box is wired. Yes, it's a realtek 83something9 or something I believe.
[04:44] <sethk> jason, I already answered this question.  mount with -t ntfs
[04:44] <jason> yeah ...........idkw hat the means
[04:44] <jason> haha
[04:44] <sethk> TheoMurpse, ok, just making sure I didn't get two people confused.
[04:44] <Iam8up> jason - don't paste big things like that in the channel, use pastebin
[04:44] <__mikem> Genjuro este estuve un pregunta
[04:45] <__mikem> I guess he doesn't speak spanish
[04:45] <nickrud> jason, now put the /etc/fstab on the pastebin, look for the message from ubotu above for the link
[04:45] <sethk> TheoMurpse, If it's possible to get info from the server that will help.  The other thing I would do is sniff packets when the dhcp attempt is made, and look at them to see what error is seen.
[04:45] <ParaSiteX> I must have screwed up something in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf cause it's telling me "no screen found" when I startx. I have tried to follow the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver to install the 915resolution. But I undo all changes I did to my xorg.conf and still get the "no screen found" message
[04:45] <TheoMurpse> sniff the packets with ethereal in ubuntu?
[04:45] <boxemall> ok folks i'm leaving. it's getting late here! maybe we see us again tomorrow. (wave)
[04:46] <sethk> TheoMurpse, yes.
[04:46] <nickrud> ParaSiteX, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg will return you to the original default X config
[04:46] <jason> how do i use the paste bin thing?
[04:46] <nickrud> jason, go to that website, and copy and paste, just like you pasted here :)
[04:46] <sethk> TheoMurpse, this will show you what packets the dhcp client is seeing, and might tell us why it's failing.  It might not, but it's relatively easy to do so that's where I would start in your situation
[04:46] <jason> oh ok
[04:46] <sethk> TheoMurpse, if server data is unavailable
[04:47] <TheoMurpse> sethk: OK, I'm going to reboot into Ubuntu and try to do dhcp again and sniff with Ethereal and also hope the wrt54g is logging the dhcp attemts. Then I'm going to boot back to XP and report back. Thanks for the help so far.
[04:47] <TheoMurpse> sethk: wait, should I sniff only the packets from my not-working box as I make the attempts?
[04:47] <sethk> TheoMurpse, I have 9 machines here running ubuntu with dhcp client and I've not run into this problem, so it has to be something a bit unusual.
[04:48] <__mikem> O great the troll is back
[04:48] <sethk> TheoMurpse, I have a wireless router on my net, but I don't use it as my dhcp server
[04:48] <jason> uh ok done
[04:48] <TheoMurpse> sethk: hehe. OK, I'm goign to reboot into Ubuntu now. Thanks thus far! I'll be back.
[04:48] <sethk> TheoMurpse, np, I haven't helped much so far.
[04:48] <Iam8up> TheoMurpse - thanks a bunch for telling me of the dhclient command =)
[04:48] <PORDO> fixed my problem.  i just took out the line with the /usr/local in /etc/dbus-1/session.conf
[04:48] <Iam8up> i've been looking for that for a while now
[04:48] <TheoMurpse> sethk: yeah, avoiding that isn't a possibility for me because I'm at my parents house for the summer and no network cables can be run from our attic to my computer (the rest of the house has ethernet running through the walls)
[04:48] <jason> nickrud ok i did it
[04:48] <TheoMurpse> Here I go, wish me luck ;)
[04:49] <sethk> TheoMurpse, there is no reason it shouldn't work as your dhcp router, I'm just thinking out loud about how mine differs from yours'
[04:49] <nickrud> jason, ok, a sec
[04:49] <jason> k
[04:49] <Sivik> how good does the sims (1st one) run via wine?
[04:49] <Sivik> and don't tell me to go to the winehq, i got banned for some unknown reasons
[04:50] <nickrud> what the heck happened to the windows mounting wiki page, it let me not think
[04:50] <Sivik> nickrud, it doesn't like you
[04:50] <Sivik> nickrud, do you play The Sims
[04:50] <__mikem> Sivik, for something like the sims I recomend cedega
[04:50] <docgnome> does anyone have an HP LaserJet 1018 working in Ubuntu?
[04:50] <nickrud> Sivik, no, very few games here. I like 80's style
[04:50] <Sivik> __mikem, it says it won't run very well according to the cedega portfolio website
[04:50] <__mikem> I got an HP LaserJet 1012 to work with ubuntu via smb share
[04:50] <ronlybonly> why can i not edit the tags for oggs in nautilus?
[04:51] <Sivik> __mikem, have you played it with cedega
[04:51] <__mikem> Sivik, yes, I used to run bejeweled 2 with it, Sivik, cedega uses wine as its engine, so if it doesn't work well in cedega, then it won't work well in wine
[04:51] <__mikem> IF you really want to play it, I would recomend vmware
[04:51] <ParaSiteX> nickrud: thanx a lot =) it works again now, and even better: I am in the right resolution (1400x1050)
[04:51] <docgnome> __mikem: I'm having problems with mine. Every time I try to print something the job just stops.
[04:52] <Kilopopo> hi
[04:52] <docgnome> __mikem: and the only other clue I have to what is going on is the gnome-cups-manager status line for it says
[04:52] <nickrud> ParaSiteX, heh, that was the packaging guys, not me. They've fixed a bit more it looks like
[04:52] <Sivik> Kilopopo, whats your problem
[04:52] <Kilopopo> so is ubuntu related to scripps hospital?
[04:52] <__mikem> The problem is, I would need to actually be there to trouble shoot the problem. I am not experienced with how it actually works.
[04:52] <Sivik> Kilopopo, wtf?
[04:53] <Kilopopo> Sivik you know if ubuntu is related to scripps hospital
[04:53] <Sivik> Kilopopo, what is scripps hospital?
[04:53] <__mikem> kilopopo I am afraid not. Why are you in here?
[04:53] <Kilopopo> http://www.scrippshealth.org/ look at the top left corner of browser
[04:54] <docgnome> Ready: /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
[04:54] <Servo888> Is wpa_supplicant suppose to give me something back when it connects? I'm doing wpa_supplicant -i <your bcm43xx interface> -D wext -w -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf. And it doesn't seem to connect...
[04:54] <__mikem> Kilopopo I didn't see anything to justify your question
[04:54] <docgnome> is what it said. now it's saying nothing
[04:55] <nickrud> jason, I've made a one line addition: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16410  . add that, and let me know when you're done
[04:55] <Kilopopo> anyone using xgl
[04:55] <rixxon> apt-get is unable to install vmware-player
[04:55] <satempler> well not xgl but aiglx
[04:55] <Flannel> Kilopopo: everyone in #ubuntu-xgl is
[04:56] <__mikem> rixxon, this is a common problem, you are going to need to compile it from what I hear
[04:56] <boricua> having problems finding server guide pdf format, my q? is how dos ubuntu recommend configuring printer on server, command line,  gnome gui or via cups:631?  thanks
[04:56] <ParaSiteX> I remember of a tool which show all kind of statistics about cpu, memory, lan etc. it has a black skin. Anyone knows the name?
[04:56] <boricua> gkrellm
[04:56] <Iam8up> boricua - gnome gui!
[04:56] <ParaSiteX> boricua: yeah that's it
[04:56] <Iam8up> that's how i do it at least...
[04:57] <rixxon> __mikem: i thought it was made to be extra simple :p
[04:57] <Iam8up> i just type in the ip of the laser printer and cups does the rest
[04:57] <rixxon> " Ubuntu and VMware have worked together to incorporate VMwares industry-leading virtualization capabilities in a freely available and easy to use manner for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS," bla bla
[04:57] <__mikem> rixxon yes it is, but you are about the 8th person I have seen with problems installing vmware-player in ubuntu, and the problem also exists in linspire. Its a problem with the package manager. YOu will need to get a source package and compile it.
[04:58] <boricua> Iam8up: strange my cups printer keeps printing test pages every now and then
[04:58] <rixxon> __mikem: personally, i think the problem is with the package :P
[04:58] <rixxon> __mikem: can't you report errors in the repos somewhere?
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> sethk: my router did not receive a single connection for DHCP whatsoever. It's like Ubuntu doesn't know how to connect to any DHCP server. I couldn't sniff with ethereal since ethereal isn't installed in my system (and I have no internet to install it). I can download it within windows and install it via USB dongle in a bit. IN the meantime, here's the error I received when I ran "dhclient eth0":
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> Sending on socket/fallback
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
[04:58] <Iam8up> boricua - lol? stop clicking the print test page button XD
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
[04:58] <andyleung> Hi, how do I unlink or take away a startup service in ubuntu?
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
[04:58] <Iam8up> TheoMurpse - fucking pastebin dickhead
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[04:58] <rixxon> !pastebin > TheoMurpse
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[04:58] <__mikem> rixxon, talk to Hobbsee or crimsun about that, they would no
[04:58] <TheoMurpse> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[04:58] <_maydayjay_> does anyone know what the 'savedefault' line in GRUB does.  I had to reinstall grub and I get an error when this line is present.
[04:58] <boricua> Iam8up: i am not clicking anything
[04:58] <__mikem> what the hell is going on here
[04:59] <TheoMurpse> lam8up I saw other post the same stuff earlier, so don't talk to me like that. I'm only doing what I've seen people do since I got on the chan.
[04:59] <Iam8up> boricua - i was joking =P i have no idea why it would do that..what model printer?
[04:59] <TheoMurpse> manners > lam8up
[04:59] <Iam8up> TheoMurpse - it's an i (eye)
[04:59] <boricua> Iam8up: hp640c
[04:59] <faolan> okay I've google it and everything else and can't find a solution. how do I change the default file manager in GNOME 2.14?
[04:59] <jason> nickrud, what am i supose to do with that extra line?
[04:59] <Sivik> !ati
[04:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <Iam8up> boricua - weird =/ i've got one of those downstairs, i'll try it sometime - what do you ahve for a print server?
[04:59] <boricua> another thingn is browser:631 is asking me for cups password what is that
[05:00] <Iam8up> couldn't tell ya =/
[05:00] <pppoe_dude> Iam8up, please watch your language
[05:00] <jason> ooooooooooooh
[05:00] <Iam8up> sorry
[05:00] <boricua> Iam8up: what do u mean for print server
[05:00] <nickrud> jason, add it your /etc/fstab. fstab is 'file system table' or some such. it defines how your various partitions are mounted in the linux filesystem. That line defines where your windows partition will be mounted in the filesystem.
[05:00] <__mikem> Iam8up what did you say, I didn't see anything that was against the coc
[05:01] <Hobbsee> TheoMurpse: please use the pastebin.
[05:01] <Iam8up> boricua - where is it plugged in?
[05:01] <nickrud> jason, a couple more steps, and it should be automatic from now on
[05:01] <Iam8up> __mikem - coc?
[05:01] <__mikem> coc = code of conduct
[05:01] <nickrud> *then, that is, jason
[05:01] <boricua> Iam8up: ubuntu dapper  via usb cable
[05:02] <Hobbsee> __mikem: what am i supposed to know?
[05:02] <TheoMurpse> Hobbsee, I apologize. I willf rom now on, but I noticed other people were just pasting large bodies of text without rude outbursts or even any corrections whatsoever, so I thought what I posted was acceptable.
[05:02] <jason> nickrud, alrighty yeah im jsut trying to add that line thing
[05:02] <Hobbsee> TheoMurpse: it's not, and if i see the next person to do it, i'll ban them for a while.
[05:02] <Iam8up> oh ok
[05:02] <__mikem> Hobbsee, someone wanted to know where to report a bug in the vmware-player package, I refered him to you
[05:02] <Iam8up> boricua - i've never done a local printer, only used network printers
[05:02] <Hobbsee> __mikem: refer them to !bugs
[05:03] <Hobbsee> __mikem: all bugs get reported in malone.
[05:03] <boricua> !info paste
[05:03] <ubotu> Package paste does not exist in dapper
[05:03] <nickrud> jason, gksudo "gedit /etc/fstab" <-- gksudo lets you edit system files
[05:03] <faolan> so no one in here know a solution?
[05:03] <__mikem> Ok thanks
[05:03] <boricua> !paste
[05:03] <jason> yeah
[05:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:03] <jason> got it
[05:03] <boricua> well is local for the server but for other machines is network
[05:03] <jason> nickrud, done
[05:04] <searunner> ok so I just had to power off the power supply for 15 seconds to correct the MCP51 networking and now it seems to be all good to go
[05:04] <boricua> Iam8up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16412
[05:04] <searunner> now im running the aptitude reload - mark all updates - apply
[05:04] <earthdog> I'm d/l'ing 6.06.  Is it ready for prime time?  I'm going to put it on one of my boss' systems, so...
[05:05] <nickrud> jason, ok, now we need to make sure there's a place for that partition to be mounted: ls /media , do you see sda1 there?
[05:05] <Iam8up> boricua - ok..as i said..don't know anything about local printers...
[05:05] <mikere> earthdog: as long as you don't need nvidia proprietary drivers =)
[05:05] <searunner> So can hyla fax and asterisk run at the same time or would that be a problem? I have an x100p card installed in this box
[05:05] <earthdog> mikere, how bad is that broken?
[05:06] <docgnome> does anyone know anything about foomatic?
[05:06] <jason> nickrun no
[05:06] <nickrud> jason, ok, sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[05:06] <mikere> earthdog: pretty badly right now - is issue with nvidia's compile apparently.  However, most of us can get by fine with the nvidia-glx package
[05:06] <boricua> Iam8up: can u tell me how to get cups password for browser maintenance
[05:06] <jason> nickrud done
[05:07] <Iam8up> boricua - not unless you can tell me the ubuntu user password for the live cd...
[05:07] <nickrud> jason, ok, sudo mount /media/sda1 should do the trick
[05:07] <Iam8up> nickrud - you'll need a mount point
[05:08] <boricua> Iam8up: i am not using live cd
[05:08] <earthdog> mikere, if I just grabbed the .bin from nvidia?
[05:08] <__mikem> I thought the live cd just booted into the desktop without prompting for a password
[05:08] <jason> nickrud done...........so now it shoudl work?
[05:08] <nickrud> lam8up, we just put it in fstab
[05:08] <Iam8up> boricua - i know..i'm saying you tell me the password for the ubuntu user on the live cd, and i'll tell you the password for cups for you
[05:08] <mikere> earthdog: that's the one that's broken - the packages that come with dapper are fine
[05:08] <Iam8up> nickrud - oh, ok - my name begins with an I, i, EYE
[05:08] <jason> nickrud YAAAAAAAAY thanks yooou
[05:08] <nickrud> jason, there you go :)
[05:09] <__mikem> Iam8up, if the password file is NOT encrypted, he can read his password from there
[05:09] <satempler> any one know of a good screencasting app that dosn't involve recompileing ffmpeg and istanbul
[05:09] <Iam8up> maybe...tell em that
[05:09] <mikere> earthdog: I upgraded this laptop from breezy yesterday and was up and running immediately.  Just had to add nvidia-glx to get some things working that I hadn't had working previously (hadn't been important back then)
[05:09] <Sivik> !xserver-reconfigure
[05:09] <feistel> hi
[05:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about xserver-reconfigure
[05:10] <feistel> someone can tell-me default groups for default user?
[05:10] <Sivik> ok, i so can't remember what i need to type for an xserver reconfigur
[05:10] <feistel> groups <--- command
[05:10] <Sivik> reconfigure
[05:10] <__mikem> Sivik its dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:10] <Sivik> __mikem, thanks
[05:10] <earthdog> mikere, ok, cool.  I can deal with nvidia-glx.  I'd heard rumors that there was a nasty bug, but wasn't sure what it was.  the glx pakage will be "good enough".  Thank you.
[05:10] <mikere> earthdog: you're welcome
[05:11] <Sivik> earthdog, or you could download and install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website
[05:11] <boricua> i dont understand this, same page takes me to different locations in diff machines, https://help.ubuntu.com  in one machine is spanish and the other one is english  page
[05:11] <__mikem> Anyone here ever read unix for dummies?
[05:11] <feistel> please, I need recreate the default user
[05:11] <mikere> Sivik: have you done that with dapper yourself?  We were having problems with it today and folks just said nvidia's build was incompatible right now
[05:11] <earthdog> Sivik, er... mikere just mentioned that was what was broke...?
[05:11] <Iam8up> feistel - useradd <user>
[05:12] <sethk> boricua, you must have a different browser language setting
[05:12] <feistel> Iam8up, no I need the groups for default user in Ubuntu, then I can use sudo
[05:12] <boricua> sethk:whre is that setting in firefox?
[05:12] <Sivik> mikere, haven't tried it on dapper, cause when i upgraded via dist-upgrade and haven't had any problems
[05:12] <sethk> boricua, I'll take a look at my firefox, see if I can spot it.
[05:12] <jason> how come none of my mp3s will play?
[05:12] <Iam8up> feistel - by default..the default group a user is added to is just his own (as in you do 'useradd billy' he will be in groups: billy )
[05:13] <feistel> Iam8up, just execute the command 'groups' in your console
[05:13] <__mikem> ubotu tell jason about mp3
[05:13] <feistel> Iam8up, and put the output
[05:13] <sethk> boricua, preferences, advanced, languages
[05:14] <Iam8up> ook...brb
[05:14] <cArNy> my ubuntu is slow
[05:14] <cArNy> sllower than windows
[05:14] <cArNy> that normal?
[05:14] <__mikem> Slower than windows? Is that posible?
[05:14] <waikitz> wut software did u compare with
[05:15] <sivik_> why would games, native to linux, be telling me i have the vesa drivers currently, when i just install the ati drivers
[05:15] <__mikem> BEcause whoever wrote those games screwed up
[05:15] <sivik_> __mikem, i'm trying to play tremolus
[05:15] <sivik_> tremolous
[05:15] <boricua> sethk: strange one machine had english as default but had other languages on the list i removed the other languages and it showed in enlgish  its weird   THANKS
[05:15] <waikitz> __mikem, glxinfo|grep ati
[05:16] <sethk> boricua, np, I suspect an error at the other end if the default was misinterpreted
[05:16] <__mikem> waikitz, I one know for a fact i do not have an ati card, and 2 am not the one having the problem
[05:16] <sivik_> waikitz, all it says is a bunch of GLX_ARB and GLX_EXT stuff
[05:16] <sethk> boricua, or, perhaps, it does spanish unless spanish is not on the list
[05:16] <leboff> anyone tried ubuntu on a dell laptop?
[05:16] <sethk> boricua, which would be odd but not exactly wrong for the server
[05:16] <sethk> leboff, yes
[05:17] <lilo> (whoops, Astinus mistabbed 8)
[05:17] <leboff> sethk: work out alright?
[05:17] <satempler> any one know of a good screencasting app that dosn't involve recompileing ffmpeg and istanbul
[05:17] <sethk> leboff, so far, no problems
[05:17] <waikitz> sivik_, glxinfo|grep ati would show ur ati card info if you installed the driver correctly
[05:17] <leboff> sethk, thanks man.. i think its time for the switch .. windows is killin me
[05:17] <sethk> leboff, also running nicely on a fujitsu laptop and an ibm laptop
[05:17] <sethk> leboff, I'm happy with it.
[05:17] <sivik_> waikitz, then it must not be installed correctly
[05:18] <leboff> sethk, i love it on my desktop .. but i remember trying to get FC5 on there a bit back and ending up in complete failure
[05:18] <waikitz> sivik_, maybe i'm wrong with the command =P nvm
[05:18] <sethk> leboff, thus far it's worked perfectly.  Even the wireless.
[05:18] <leboff> sethk, ok great
[05:18] <sivik_> waikitz, maybe
[05:18] <sivik_> sethk, lucky
[05:18] <leboff> sethk, now to find that ubuntu cd i have lyin around
[05:18] <__mikem> leboff, get a coppy of vmware server, its free aned it should illiminate any risk
[05:19] <sethk> sivik_, lucky on the wireless, perhaps.  The rest I expected.
[05:19] <leboff> __mikem, thanks man
[05:19] <waikitz> sivik_, it should be "fglrxinfo"
[05:19] <__mikem> your welcome
[05:19] <waikitz> sivik_, sorry =P
[05:19] <sivik_> sethk, what kind of wireless card
[05:19] <sivik_> waikitz, sure
[05:20] <Dial_tone> how can I update the locatedb manually? its diff from bsd.
[05:20] <dooglus> Dial_tone: sudo updatedb
[05:20] <wikkix> updatedb?
[05:20] <wikkix> oh yeah
[05:20] <wikkix> try sudo first
[05:20] <wikkix> I'm trying to get cron to run my jobs
[05:21] <__mikem> I simply love the "locate" command, its so much easier to use than find, whereis, or any of those
[05:21] <sivik_> it still says that the OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project
[05:21] <wikkix> but something isn't working and I guess there is no mail on the system by default
[05:21] <brandon_> how can i check my gtk version?
[05:21] <gdb> wikkix: updatedb is already run daily out of the box
[05:21] <wikkix> brandon dpkg -l | grep gtk
[05:21] <sethk> sivik_, it isn't booted up at the moment.  I'll let you know.
[05:21] <gdb> wikkix: You do not need to create a new cron entry for it.
[05:21] <wikkix> no
[05:21] <wikkix> not updatedb
[05:21] <leboff> sethk, what type of dell?
[05:22] <wikkix> that was some other guy
[05:22] <gdb> er sorry
[05:22] <wikkix> i'm trying to do a tar
[05:22] <wikkix> Jun 24 23:23:01 theway /USR/SBIN/CRON[31483] : (root) CMD (/bin/tar -cvzf /media/usbdisk/backups/backup-`date +)
[05:22] <wikkix> Jun 24 23:23:01 theway /USR/SBIN/CRON[31482] : (root) MAIL (mailed 125 bytes of output but got status 0x0001 )
[05:22] <wikkix> that's what I keep seeing
[05:22] <gdb> Dial_tone: updatedb is already run daily out of the box.  You do not need a new crontab entry for it.
[05:22] <sethk> leboff, D610
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: sorry for the confusion ;-)
[05:22] <wikkix> so I don't know what the heck is going on
[05:22] <wikkix> it's ok
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: Do you have an MTA installed?
[05:22] <wikkix> no
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: sendmail, postfix, exim, etc
[05:22] <gdb> wikkix: That is probably why.
[05:22] <wikkix> it doesn't come with one does it?
[05:23] <Dial_tone> I don't want a crontab for it, I want to know how to run it manually.
[05:23] <wikkix> I guess I need to install it
[05:23] <gdb> No, it does not.  You need to install one of them, the default is postfix.
[05:23] <sethk> Dial_tone, just type updatedb at the command line   (sudo updatedb)
[05:23] <leboff> sethk, is that an older one?
[05:23] <gdb> Anything that provides mail-transport (sendmail, postfix, exim, etc)
[05:23] <wikkix> ok
[05:23] <gdb> Dial_tone: Well, you already have a cron for it. ;-)  But you can just call it from the command line.
[05:23] <wikkix> any other way to get cron to tell me what the heck is going on?
[05:24] <sethk> leboff, possibly, it belongs to a company I'm doing a contract for.
[05:24] <gdb> wikkix: Well, since cron tells you whats going on via mail... you can probably find something in /var/log.
[05:24] <sivik_> is the vesa drivers have to do with anything about the way i compiled the kernel?
[05:24] <wikkix> that's all I saw in my log
[05:24] <leboff> sethk, ah ok
[05:24] <gdb> Then again, I'm not seeing anything there.
[05:24] <wikkix> what I posted up there
[05:24] <L-----D> !mp3
[05:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <gopena> hello
[05:24] <gdb> #easyubuntu ;-)
[05:24] <gopena> i need some help upgrading to 6.06
[05:25] <gdb> gopena: What's the issue?
[05:25] <sivik_> gopena, help with what part
[05:25] <gopena> i just have no clue how to
[05:25] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:25] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:25] <gopena> so if it type that in in the console
[05:25] <gdb> gopena: That page there has all the information we'd be able to provide anyway. :-)
[05:25] <gdb> gopena: Those are webpages.
[05:25] <gopena> itll do it automatically?
[05:26] <gopena> gksudo "update-manager -d"
[05:26] <gdb> You do not want to use the -d flag.
[05:26] <gdb> No, read what it says.
[05:26] <gopena> ok
[05:26] <gdb> You do not want the -d flag.
[05:26] <gopena> why
[05:26] <gopena> whats it do
[05:26] <ozzloy> trying xgl on ubuntu 6.06, compiz tells me "compiz.real: No composite extension"  how do i fix that?
[05:26] <gdb> You're not interested in the "latest development version" like it just said.
[05:26] <gopena> ah
[05:26] <gdb> You want the latest stable version. :-)
[05:26] <gopena> thats ike
[05:26] <gopena> the beat
[05:26] <gopena> yeah
[05:26] <gopena> ok
[05:26] <gopena> thanks
[05:26] <gdb> update-manager will provide the option to upgrade to the next stable version if you run it.
[05:26] <Sjoerd-> when I use mv command to move a folder will it replace the folder or merge the files?
[05:27] <gdb> System -> Administration -> Update  Manager
[05:27] <wikkix> hmm
[05:27] <gdb> Sjoerd-: it will move your directory into the other one
[05:27] <gopena> gdb
[05:27] <gopena> do you have to install existing updates for it to give you that option
[05:27] <gdb> $ mv directory1 directory2 will leave you with directory1/directory2
[05:27] <gdb> gopena: yes
[05:27] <gopena> ok
[05:28] <gopena> thanks
[05:28] <gopena> bye!
[05:28] <wikkix> here is the error I got
[05:28] <gdb> gopena: Good luck! :-)
[05:28] <wikkix> unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
[05:28] <wikkix> her eis my cron line
[05:28] <wikkix> 32 23 * * * /bin/tar -cvzf /media/usbdisk/backups/backup-`date +%m%d%Y`.tar.gz /etc /home > /var/log/backup.log
[05:28] <Sjoerd-> gdb: So if there is a file called xxx.conf in the folder /xxx and I replace that folder with anothe /xxx that contains no file called xxx.conf it will stay intact?
[05:28] <wikkix> that works just dang fin on othe rsystems
[05:28] <RabidSnail> bcm43xx is sporadic on my ibook. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[05:28] <sivik_> RabidSnail, what the problem?
[05:28] <gdb> Sjoerd-: I'm not sure what you're asking.  Can you give the command you're looking to use?
[05:28] <wikkix> or maybe it doesn't
[05:28] <TheoMurpse> If I have no internet access to my Ubuntu and need to install Ethereal to it so I can figure out why I don't have access, can I just download ethereal and install it? Or do I need to keep booting back and forth between OSes (the one with internet and the one without) every time I try to install ethereal until I have all the prereqs? Will just an Ethereal package work?
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: Is that all on one actual line?
[05:29] <wikkix> yes
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: if it's not, you need a \ at the end of the first line.
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: ah ok
[05:29] <Sjoerd-> gdb: mv /home/sjoerd/sites-enabled /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[05:29] <Dial_tone> aha, find doesn't follow symlinks
[05:29] <gdb> wikkix: I wonder if you're using an editor that's line wrapping.
[05:29] <wikkix> I think it has something to do with the '
[05:29] <wikkix> er the `
[05:29] <RabidSnail> sivik:it recognized my access point but often registers no signal, even though i'm sitting right next to it.
[05:29] <gdb> Sjoerd-: that will leave you with /eetc/apache2/sites-enabled/sites-enabled
[05:29] <wikkix> it's all one line
[05:29] <gdb> er /etc
[05:29] <sivik_> RabidSnail, thats normal, just cause it says there is no signal, doesn't mean its not working
[05:29] <wikkix> I know my vi :)
[05:30] <delmar> ffs. I downloaded the ubuntu dapper alternate .iso last night.. its even still listed inthe firefox download window.. and when I clicked open (last night) it opened the .iso.  It downloaded to my desktop, or so it was telling me but at the time I couldnt find it on the desktop or anywhere.  I have since rebooted and now the bloody .iso is nowhere to be found. that was a 700mb download and I don't get much of a datacap because New Z
[05:30] <delmar> ealand SUX.
[05:30] <gdb> Sjoerd-: the lower one will contain what was in /home, the other will be the system ones.
[05:30] <RabidSnail> but I get no internet connection
[05:30] <gdb> wikkix: No worries!
[05:30] <delmar> So... undeleting files under ubuntu... anyone?
[05:30] <dr_willis> delmar,  good luck. :P
[05:30] <sivik_> RabidSnail, can you get anything when you run iwlist scan?
[05:30] <gdb> delmar: pop in the tape!
[05:30] <delmar> imnot re-downloading it. fuck that
[05:30] <wikkix> delmar I think you might be out of luck
[05:30] <delmar> stupid crap.
[05:30] <Sjoerd-> gdb: Yes I understand, but if there are files in /etc/apache2/sites-available that are NOT in /home/sjoerd/sites-available will they remain intact or will the WHOLE folder be replaced with all it's contents
[05:30] <gdb> delmar: What's stupid?  Linux or you? ;-)
[05:30] <delmar> both :P
[05:30] <dr_willis> delmar,  ext2/3 file systems can make that a little hard. but it can be done.. with lots of luck
[05:30] <gdb> delmar: hehehe
[05:31] <wikkix> i'm just trying to get my dang backups to work
[05:31] <__mikem> gdb, probably him
[05:31] <RabidSnail> sivik:yeah, shows up fine
[05:31] <sivik_> RabidSnail, what does your ifconfig <interface> say
[05:31] <__mikem> besides, I doubt the kernel has anything to do with the problem he is having
[05:31] <gdb> delmar: You might be able to recover with an ex2 fs editor but that's not really recommended.
[05:31] <delmar> i thought inodes could be reattached with ext2/3
[05:31] <gdb> delmar: With a filesystem editor.
[05:31] <RabidSnail> am I allowed to post output?
[05:31] <delmar> grrrrrr.
[05:31] <Sjoerd-> gdp: I know windows just merges them but I read (a long time ago) linux will replace
[05:31] <delmar> GRRR
[05:32] <delmar> illjust redownload it then. bloody hell
[05:32] <Intelligi> Where is a good place to start learning ubuntu?
[05:32] <delmar> what a waste of bandwidth.
[05:32] <gdb> Well, to be honest, undelete in NTFS is neigh impossible, too. ;-)
[05:32] <Sjoerd-> Intelligi: Google: ubuntu guide
[05:32] <RabidSnail> sivik:  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:24:28:FD:3A
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           RX packets:2654 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           TX packets:87 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           RX bytes:437962 (427.6 KiB)  TX bytes:3912 (3.8 KiB)
[05:32] <RabidSnail>           Interrupt:52 Base address:0x4000
[05:32] <__mikem> undelete is for wimps
[05:32] <wikkix> intelligi www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:32] <nickrud> RabidSnail, no, but, too late
[05:32] <Toma-> whats the easiest way to transfer a file between 2 ubuntu computers on the same network?
[05:32] <delmar> gdb, undelete in ntfs ... i can do that really really easily
[05:32] <Sjoerd-> RabidSnail: Don't paste here :)
[05:32] <RabidSnail> sorry
[05:32] <sivik_> !tell RabidSnail about pastebin
[05:32] <__mikem> why do people keep doing that
[05:32] <gdb> delmar: With the default system or do you need something like Norton Utilities?
[05:33] <nickrud> Intelligi, where do you want to start?
[05:33] <delmar> dgb, getdataback for NTFS
[05:33] <wikkix> undelete used to be part of windows
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: scp, most likely.
[05:33] <sivik_> RabidSnail, are you editing the ip yourself or are you getting that from the ap
[05:33] <docgnome> Does anyone have any suggestions for why my printer is shifting everything to the left? it appears to be printing things off the left edge of the page. I'm using the HP LaserJet 1018 driver that comes with the foo2zjs package.
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: You'll want to "apt-get install ssh" on both first, then it's really easy.
[05:33] <delmar> gdb, when NTFS screws up... that has recovered data every time.
[05:33] <Toma-> gdb: thx
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: scp file user@system:file
[05:33] <RabidSnail> sivik:dhcp
[05:33] <jason> doesn asnyone know why my soundblaster live! 24 bit sound card doesnt work?
[05:33] <wikkix> anyone got an idea why this cron line doesnt' work? 32 23 * * * /bin/tar -cvzf /media/usbdisk/backups/backup-`date +%m%d%Y`.tar.gz /etc /home > /var/log/backup.log
[05:33] <d00by> hey
[05:33] <gdb> delmar: getdataback comes with Windows?
[05:33] <wikkix> I can run that command from teh command line
[05:33] <Toma-> gdb: im farmiliar with man pages ;)
[05:33] <gdb> Toma-: :-)
[05:33] <d00by> whats the package called that has all the windows codecs in it?
[05:34] <__mikem> Computers are like air conditioners, when you open windows, it doesn't work
[05:34] <gdb> wikkix: Can you run that from the command line and it works?
[05:34] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me how to direct firefox to open a new tab in window :0, when I am clicking in a vnc session though :2?
[05:34] <DShepherd> w32codecs?
[05:34] <sivik_> RabidSnail, not sure, it should allow you to connect, since you have an ip
[05:34] <DShepherd> or something like that
[05:34] <RabidSnail> hmm
[05:34] <delmar> gdb, heh..i reinstalled a guys system.. copied data off it... re-partitioned, re-formated... reinstalled software... then he tells me... " oh.. what about that folder I had with all this other stuff.. " blahblah.... used getdataback and recovered every one of his files... of course it was just pure luck nothing had been written over.
[05:34] <gdb> hehehe
[05:34] <wikkix> gdb yes
[05:34] <wikkix> I can
[05:35] <nickrud> DShepherd, !restricted, or !easysource & add the cipherfunk repo
[05:35] <delmar> gdb, no it's a product you can purchase.. or pirate. :P.  I was so impressed with it I paid the small amount they were askin
[05:35] <DShepherd> nickrud: tell d00by
[05:35] <wikkix> delmar: just quit deleting stuff you don't mean to delete :)
[05:35] <nickrud> d00by, you want to play video I take it?
[05:35] <gdb> wikkix: Well, unfortuantely, the only advice I can give is that I think you're using a goofy date format. ;-)
[05:35] <RabidSnail> sivik:pinging gooogle not working
[05:36] <wikkix> what format woudl you suggest?
[05:36] <wikkix> I just want it to show me somethign differnet each day
[05:36] <delmar> wikkix, yeah but Windows NTFS has failed on me a few times over the years and deleted stuff for me :P.. usually entire partitions
[05:36] <wikkix> I don't really care what it shows
[05:36] <nickrud> d00by, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has instructions on installing the w32codecs
[05:36] <dr_willis> ive had windows fail.. and hard drives fail.. and..... :P
[05:36] <delmar> wikkix, this incident with the ubuntu really rips my g-string... i dont want to have to re-download the damn file... i downloaded it to save me bandwidth.. GRRRR
[05:37] <kolaje> would sedega work well with ubuntu?
[05:37] <wikkix> what file did you delete?
[05:37] <sivik_> why is my xorg.conf saying i'm using the fglrx stuff, but when i run glxinfo, it says its mesa GLX Indirect?
[05:37] <kolaje> or is there a better program for that use?
[05:37] <dr_willis> kolaje,  you mean Cedega?
[05:37] <__mikem> SEe the good thing about using vmware is, you can set up a folder that is shared between the guest and host opperating system which makes moving files between windows and say linux a snap
[05:37] <kolaje> i just know how it's pronounced, so yes
[05:37] <jason> why doesnt my sound blaster live! 24 bit sound card work?
[05:37] <kolaje> so i can emulate windows programs, that is what it does right?
[05:37] <dr_willis> kolaje,  it works good.. the normal Wike works very well.
[05:37] <__mikem> !cedega
[05:37] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:37] <gdb> %Y%m%d
[05:37] <sivik_> nickrud, but there is no way to change my video card, its onboard
[05:37] <dr_willis> kolaje,  the niormal wine that is. :P works very well - it depends on the programs however
[05:38] <kolaje> what's better for gaming?
[05:38] <delmar> wikkix, I didnt delete anything.. i downloaded the ubuntu dapper CD last night.. to my desktop aparantly... but it wasnt able to be found when I looked for it... clicked open in the firefox download window.. and it opened the .iso... still souldn't see it anywhere tho.
[05:38] <gdb> wikkix: er %Y%m%d for no reason other than they stay in order and YYYYMMDD is more "standard" ;-)
[05:38] <sivik_> kolaje, depends on the game
[05:38] <kolaje> i want to run steam
[05:38] <kolaje> with hl1
[05:38] <dr_willis> kolaje,  Cedega is designed with gaming in mind.. and to be honest.. it stull sucks. :P
[05:38] <delmar> wikkix, I rebooted since then.. and now its still not found.. and the firefox download window says its not available when i try to open it.. so its gone.
[05:38] <delmar> im screwed
[05:38] <nickrud> sivik_, that's why I thought about it, laptops come with those, and I think I'm about to get sattled with one
[05:38] <__mikem> cedega isn't that bad, as long as you use the games that they patched it for
[05:38] <dr_willis> Ive basicially switched to Linux and given up on games.. i get more work done that way
[05:38] <sivik_> kolaje, check the www.winehq.com and then the game database
[05:39] <gdb> delmar: When that happens, I generally at least run a find to make sure it's gone.
[05:39] <kolaje> thanks guys
[05:39] <dr_willis> __mikem,  theres a lot of 'variables' :P   and trial and error.
[05:39] <varsendaggr> i'm gonna install dapper any advice?
[05:39] <gdb> delmar: But I don't know what you're looking for.
[05:39] <sivik_> nickrud, ok, that made no sense
[05:39] <delmar> gdb, first thing I did
[05:39] <gdb> varsendaggr: Have fun doing it!
[05:39] <sivik_> varsendaggr, you worred about something?
[05:39] <varsendaggr> dr_willis, good for you
[05:39] <gdb> delmar: Yeah, that's what I figured.
[05:39] <nickrud> sivik_, um, saddled
[05:39] <__mikem> dr_willis, if you miss gaming that much, download a free copy of vmware server, install windows on the vm, and use it for gaming
[05:39] <sivik_> nickrud, your saddled with a laptop?
[05:39] <dr_willis> __mikem,  to be honest.. i DONT miss it. :P
[05:39] <sivik_> do you mean settled
[05:39] <nickrud> an ati one
[05:39] <sivik_> nickrud, there are many out there with nvidia cards
[05:40] <dr_willis> __mikem,  and i did put windows98 on a Vmware install.  - just for kicks
[05:40] <sivik_> nickrud, not normally the intel ones though
[05:40] <__mikem> 98, what a waste
[05:40] <dr_willis> __mikem,  vs spending more $$ for a coopy of xp for vmware.. ill stuck with 98 for my vmware testing needs. :P
[05:40] <CarlFK> is gaim v2b3 in a repo?
[05:41] <__mikem> good point, but if you have a copy of xp lieing around, you should use it
[05:41] <Hobbsee> CarlFK: not in an official one
[05:41] <nickrud> sivik_, corporate purchases, price rules
[05:41] <varsendaggr> sivik_, na i've installed breezy so may times i think it will be fine
[05:41] <sivik_> nickrud, i'm sorry, when i bought this laptop, it was one of the only laptops i could get with the ram i wanted and non intel
[05:41] <dr_willis> __mikem,  i dident want all the crud of xp. :P actually i just was trying to get a few utilities working witn 98 and vmware.  that wine dident like.
[05:42] <__mikem> wine will one day be reliable, but they have a long way to go
[05:42] <CarlFK> Hobbsee: so an unofficial?
[05:42] <varsendaggr> i've always done the /home   on a seperate partion but i can never reinstall without having to create a new user and it always never works just right i think i am just going to do a /
[05:42] <nickrud> sivik_, except for the issue of just what not to buy to run ubuntu, we're getting off-topic (before we get slapped with overcooked noodles)
[05:43] <jason> i need sound blaster live 24 bit drivers or something becuase my sound card doesnt work...........any help?
[05:43] <sivik_> nickrud, we seem to do that alot
[05:43] <sivik_> jason: did you google it?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> CarlFK: i think there was one somewhere, yeah, not sure where though
[05:43] <jason> yeah
[05:44] <sivik_> nickrud, are you in #winehq right now?
[05:44] -ratbert(i=ratbert@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global notice]  I am a fat asshole, who loves abuse, die 
[05:44] <nickrud> sivik_, no, never been there
[05:44] -ratbert(i=ratbert@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- DCC SEND YOUAREALLJUDENLOL
[05:44] <sivik_> ok
[05:44] <nickrud> well
[05:44] <nickrud> a short list
[05:45] <varsendaggr> !netsplit
[05:45] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:45] <Subvertir> has freenode gone retarded?
[05:45] <nickrud> !ddcexploit
[05:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ddcexploit
[05:45] <Toma-> that wasnt a netsplit
[05:45] <nickrud> !ops
[05:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:45] <Subvertir> hahaha
[05:45] <nickrud> !ops, seriously
[05:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ops, seriously
[05:45] <Subvertir> ratbert > *
[05:45] <__mikem> this is why I love having broudband, I almost never get touched by such things
[05:45] <Hobbsee> nalioth:!
[05:46] <concept10> why does someone ask ubotu what a netsplit is everytime it happens?
[05:46] <nickrud> ouch
[05:46] <Toma-> you'll find hes going that from out of the channel... /whois ratbert
[05:46] <Sjoerd-> When I use sudo mv /home/sjoerd/awstats /etc/ it gives out "mv: cannot overwrite directory '/etc/awstats'" why?
[05:46] <Sjoerd-> heh
[05:47] <varsendaggr> Sjoerd-,    because you don't have pemissions to edit /etc
[05:47] <Sjoerd-> varsendaggr: But I use sudo?
[05:47] <varsendaggr> Sjoerd-,    hint   use sudo
[05:47] <__mikem> Hobbsee why did you decide to upgrade to op a few lines back?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> __mikem: we've got trouble
[05:47] <Sjoerd-> varsendaggr: I do use sudo
[05:47] <Subvertir> hahaha
[05:47] <Subvertir> freenode is getting pwnt
[05:48] <varsendaggr> ohh god
[05:48] <imbrandon> !ops
[05:48] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:48] <varsendaggr> did anyone survive?
[05:48] <nickrud> imbrandon, they're aware
[05:48] <wikkix> wee
[05:48] <mikere> split?
[05:48] <wikkix> i'm still here
[05:48] <wikkix> I love the splits
[05:48] <Hobbsee> wikkix: we've got bigger problems than teh split
[05:48] <imbrandon> nickrud, i know
[05:48] <nickrud> someone got too may permissions here
[05:48] <varsendaggr> i don't know it may be the apocolyps
[05:49] <imbrandon> nickrud, there are other problems
[05:49] <wikkix> this is why I don't get on public irc servers much
[05:49] <nickrud> imbrandon, kk, I just see the obvious
[05:49] <mikere> freenodes usually pretty stable
[05:49] <varsendaggr> i have never seen carnage like this
[05:49] <MrObvious> That's more than a netsplit.
[05:49] <sivik_> would someone tell me why my opengl is reading as mesa when i have fglrx install in my xorg-conf
[05:49] <sivik_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16416
[05:49] <wikkix> anyone know why I keep getting this message /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
[05:49] <gigaclon> someone hacked the network
[05:50] <varsendaggr> !apocalyps
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about apocalyps
[05:50] <nickrud> varsendaggr, there's an e at the end, and it's only a chat server :)
[05:51] <rixxon> wth is this ratbert guy up to
[05:52] <varsendaggr> whois ratbert?
[05:52] <imbrandon> varsendaggr, its being taken care of please be patient
[05:52] <rixxon> well he's killing lilo and sending lame global notices
[05:52] <HedgeMage> varsendaggr: it's a network problem... we (fn staff) are trying to track it down
[05:52] <rixxon> he seems to be oper logged in as levin
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[06:12] <Krhis> ^^
[06:12] <nickrud> ah, good ops
[06:13] <Krhis> Opps, sorry about that..... wrong plug.
[06:13] <pax> pull it pull it
[06:13] <runes> major netsplit???
[06:13] <moshe> hello
[06:13] <nickrud> noonex, a serious hacker
[06:13] <moshe> is there a dapper livecd?
[06:13] <d00by> can someone give me a link to where it shows how to install flash player for ubuntu without using wine
[06:13] <pax> pull the red plug the rd one
[06:13] <moshe> I can only find links to livecds for the beta and the flights
[06:14] <Krhis> haha
[06:14] <Sjoerd> moshe, i think all cd's are live cd's
[06:14] <nickrud> ermn a serious hacker, targetting a chat server. why?
[06:14] <moshe> d00by, macromedia distributes a native flash player for linux
[06:14] <pax> bored, no beers, saturday night
[06:14] <dust> how do you change the font in openbox wm?
[06:14] <nickrud> d00by, !restricted
[06:14] <nickrud> !restricted
[06:14] <roostishaw> c#
[06:14] <nickrud> noonex, no ubotu yet
[06:14] <moshe> if I download the desktop cd, it'll be a live cd, not the text mode install I went through back when I installed hoary last year?
[06:15] <roostishaw> oops, dont mind what I just posted
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> takes a long time to get in
[06:15] <jason> how do i change the clokc from military time to...........regualr time in kubuntu
[06:15] <nickrud> d00by, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree   that's the command
[06:15] <roostishaw> moshe, the new installer is inculded on the live cd
[06:15] <roostishaw> moshe, its called expresso, its a gui
[06:15] <moshe> roostishaw, I know this, but are you saying the old installer has been entirely discontinued?
[06:16] <imbrandon> its called ubiguity
[06:16] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:16] <moshe> I installed dapper on this machine back during flight 5.  I want to install it fresh on another machine and I want to know which cd to download, and only desktop is availab.e
[06:16] <nickrud> nalioth, hi
[06:16] <moshe> available.
[06:16] <imbrandon> moshe, no its called the "alternate installer now"
[06:16] <roostishaw> moshe, I have no idea, but it think there might be an option to use the text installer...
[06:16] <roostishaw> oh, ok... what he said
[06:16] <roostishaw> :D
[06:16] <moshe> the old one is the alternate?
[06:16] <KyoLptp`> you guys are both wrong lol
[06:17] <KyoLptp`> the old one = espresso
[06:17] <moshe> hmmm
[06:17] <jason> doesn any one know how to chnage the time from military time to regual time in kubuntu.............its driving me insance haha
[06:17] <KyoLptp`> new name = ubiquity IIRC
[06:17] <moshe> whatever the name is
[06:17] <moshe> I have a non-booting breezy install
[06:17] <KyoLptp`> it sucks regardless, damn program FUBAR'd my laptop's MBR
[06:17] <moshe> I don't want to spend time messing with it, so I want to install dapper on it.
[06:17] <imbrandon> moshe, its uptodate with the live cd
[06:17] <nickrud> jason, only insane people use kde, so ...
[06:17] <tanath> can someone help me get the side buttons on my mouse working? i have a logitech mx500, and have carefully followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[06:17] <moshe> I need to know which cd I should download
[06:17] <imbrandon> i use kde ?
[06:18] <imbrandon> moshe, the "desktop cd"
[06:18] <tanath> everything works fine except the side buttons
[06:18] <tanath> they don't do anything
[06:18] <jason> nickrud, whast that supose to mean
[06:18] <J-_> What's a good tutorial for a newbie on breezy badger?
[06:18] <moshe> I have a machine with multiple partitions and I didn't remember if the livecd's installer respected that arrangement
[06:18] <nickrud> jason, a bad joke, that
[06:18] <nickrud> s all
[06:18] <KyoLptp`> moshe
[06:18] <KyoLptp`> if you want to install, get the install cd rather than the desktop CD
[06:18] <jason> oh..........well do you know how to chnage the time? cause its annoying haha
[06:19] <moshe> install cd is not on the list
[06:19] <moshe> I'm on one of the download pages right now
[06:19] <KyoLptp`> oh
[06:19] <roostishaw> anyone, how do I install the gnu liberty basic cross compiler?
[06:19] <moshe> desktop, alternate, and server are the only options
[06:20] <tanath> can someone help me get the side buttons on my mouse working? i have a logitech mx500, and have carefully followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 but they still don't do anything.
[06:20] <iamelite> I have a question, about advanced Video/3D graphics, and ubuntu
[06:20] <not-prime> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[06:20] <hanasaki> where do i get libdvdcss2 and w32codecs?
[06:20] <runes> has anyone here set up postfix?
[06:20] <moshe> libdvdcss is downloadable through a script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread, I think
[06:20] <nickrud> hanasaki, from the cipherfunk repo, see the source-o-matic on google
[06:21] <hanasaki> eh?
[06:21] <tanath> hanasaki: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[06:21] <moshe> w32codecs might be in multiverse, but otherwise, you can download it directly from mplayer's website
[06:21] <iamelite> I spent a good few hours with someone in winehq, troubleshooting my drivers and varifying thier integrity. And everthing checks out except one thing. My video card is 256 megs, and ubuntu appears to be reading 64 megs of it.
[06:21] <tanath> hanasaki: replace "breezy" if you're using dapper or something
[06:21] <hanasaki> moshe:  its listed.. but when i try to install.. it says no candidate
[06:21] <roostishaw> anyone, how do I install the gnu liberty basic cross compiler?
[06:22] <hanasaki> tanath: i am on 6.06
[06:22] <moshe> no candidate?
[06:22] <tanath> hanasaki: cause it's mentioned, but it's not in your repositories
[06:22] <tanath> hanasaki: (by another package)
[06:22] <moshe> oh
[06:22] <moshe> multiverse.
[06:22] <backz> Hi people! I've a "STMicroelectronics Imaging Division (VLSI Vision) CPiA WebCam", I've /dev/video -> /dev/video0, and my gqcam can read data from it, but Camorama doesn't... why? It says: "Couldn't connect on device /dev/video0. Please check your connection!"
[06:22] <backz> why?
[06:22] <moshe> you need to enable it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:22] <hanasaki> ah
[06:22] <moshe> sorry
[06:22] <iamelite> Also... The way my games run, are particualarly slow. and act as if im running a Low memory card.
[06:22] <d00by> nickrud, when i did  sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree it says cannot find package
[06:22] <moshe> I was engrossed in my own issue :)
[06:22] <tanath> hanasaki: what moshe said. see the link i posted
[06:23] <iiiears> !compiz
[06:23] <iiiears> !xgl
[06:23] <dust> does anyone use openbox window manager instead of metacity??
[06:23] <moshe> I use xfce :)
[06:23] <DarkMageZ> hanasaki, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:23] <tanath> can someone help me get the side buttons on my mouse working? i have a logitech mx500, and have carefully followed the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471 but they still don't do anything.
[06:23] <hanasaki> http://packages.freecontrib.org <= is ubuntu? safe?
[06:24] <moshe> I always thought metacity was pretty useless until they added window snapping with the latest release
[06:24] <nickrud> !multiverse
[06:24] <iamelite> Does anyone know how to check on / fix that
[06:24] <nickrud> no ubotu :)
[06:24] <roostishaw> is the 'compromise' why there were a bunch of logins?
[06:24] <tanath> anyone?
[06:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> compromise?  or got hacked?
[06:25] <nickrud> d00by, you need to enable to multiverse section to get the flash plugin, and the local bot is dead.
[06:25] <Banana> someone cracked the md5 hashes of the netadmins
[06:25] <Krhis> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, I'm thinking it was ratbert.
[06:25] <roostishaw> ...
[06:25] <Banana> the generated a massive netsplit
[06:25] <roostishaw> whats a netsplit?
[06:25] <Banana> the leaves and joins were probably caused by the netsplit
[06:25] <nickrud> d00by, if you'd post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org , I'll amend them
[06:25] <d00by> oh you said flashplayer, not plugin, ok
[06:26] <Banana> netsplit is where two continents have their connections severed
[06:26] <Banana> i.e. where maybe there was no connection between america and europe
[06:26] <d00by> nickrud, your command had player in it not plugin, so that was the problem
[06:26] <iiiears> tanath - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188302&highlight=mx700 - Maybe..
[06:26] <roostishaw> ooo... thats sounds bad...  :D
[06:26] <Banana> and then each server would go on with their own communications, and then eventually merge back when all was reconnected
[06:26] <nickrud> d00by, that's not an unusual condition for me, good catch
[06:27] <gdb> Ah, netsplits are when any two IRC servers on the same network can't talk to each other for whatever reason. It has nothing to do with geography.
[06:27] <codecaine> hi I install xfishtank when I type it in terminal the screen blinks but then I dont' see any fish anybody know why?
[06:27] <d00by> nickrud, haha its ok, i just happened to be reading RestrictedFormats thing so thats where i found it
[06:27] <iiiears> The quest for compiz starts in what channel?
[06:27] <dust> mosh, i just couldn't handle the black lines.
[06:27] <nickrud> d00by, a great page, yes. Especially after the last edit
[06:28] <czer323> !compiz
[06:28] <czer323> oh noes, no ubotu?
[06:28] <iiiears> deadbot. - (Organ solemnly begins to play bach.)
[06:28] <czer323> That bastard can't die.
[06:29] <iamelite> Hello everyone, i am running with a uniqe problem. My video card is running games with 1/4 of its full memory. 64 megs, as opposed to 256 megs.
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > hmm, what's the link to view for adding in avi/mpeg support?
[06:29] <lancer285> what does it mean when I run memtest, I get Allocated 536870912 bytes...trying mlock...Killed
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > err, wmv*
[06:30] <tanath> iiiears: hrm, that one says to do stuff the other one says is wrong/outdated
[06:30] <iiiears> iamelite - check /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the device section and change 64000 to 256000
[06:30] <czer323> ex0r> Try seraching for EasyUbuntu.  It adds in the restricted formats(avi, mpeg).
[06:30] <iamelite> iiiears: i will try it
[06:30] <[Ex0r] > !restricted
[06:31] <[Ex0r] > czer323, you mean through apt ?
[06:31] <czer323> ubotu appears to have died and gone to bot heaven.
[06:31] <iiiears> tanath - lol - Okay, I feel your pain. - fought a few days last week to enable all of my multimedia keys. - mixed advice there too.
[06:31] <lancer285> what does it mean when I run memtest, I get Allocated 536870912 bytes...trying mlock...Killed
[06:31] <czer323> exor> just search for it on google.
[06:31] <tanath> iiiears: heh. a couple of mine are screwy now after 'fixing' them.
[06:32] <jreis> anyone know how to fix boot floppy problem, error 15 file not found?  Looks like root permission issue...
[06:32] <yallaman> is there a way to switch back to fluxbox from gnome? like in fluxbox you only go to the menu and window > gnome
[06:32] <iamelite> iiiears: i am in xorg, i noticed other simular named files in the directory...
[06:33] <jreis> i have XP on 1 disc, unbuntu on another...
[06:33] <Zambezi> Is there only 346 connected now? It should be the double!
[06:33] <iamelite> iiiears: such as xorg.conf.fglrx
[06:34] <iiiears> iamlite - i have a 256 mb card also - give me a sec and i can quote it for you.
[06:35] <[Ex0r] > hmm, wow
[06:35] <lerick> hi, i'm new to using linux and i'm installing realplayer on my computer. is there any specific directory i should install it in, like 'program files' in windows?
[06:35] <iamelite> iiiears - i can post the file for you on pastebin, if you would like. But even with my limited linux experiance. There seems something odd in this file
[06:35] <farous> am trying to connect using irssi but can not seem to do it is there a new config i am not aware of?
[06:35] <Banana> Freenode is currently err... in trouble
[06:35] <Banana> being hacked/compromised, so you might not be able to connect to some servers
[06:36] <iamelite> lerick: there is a linux version of realplayer.
[06:36] <farous> though so thanx
[06:36] <Banana> try asimov.freenode.net
[06:36] <farous> will do so Banana thanx again
[06:36] <Banana> that and zelazny.freenode.net are the only two that seem to work
[06:36] <yallaman> lerick: sudo apt-get install realplay
[06:36] <iamelite> lerick: though im not adept enough to tell you where to get it, i would recommend a google for your dist
[06:36] <Banana> but the lag is enormous
[06:37] <iamelite> lerick: yallaman just answered it :P lol
[06:37] <nickrud> Banana, hang in, they're working at getting the net bak
[06:37] <d00by> is there any way to fix the battery monitor? mine doesnt actually monitor the battery time or % correctly
[06:37] <hanasaki> how do you set the app that runs when you double click on an icon in gnoem?
[06:38] <yallaman> lerick: what distro do you have?
[06:38] <nickrud> hanasaki, right click the icon, select properties. A dialog window will open, and the tab open with will let you set the default. Click the radio button.
[06:38] <iiiears> iamlite - the easy way is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - That is if the xorg file needs editing.
[06:38] <lerick> i have the standard ubuntu one, i think.
[06:38] <yallaman> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:39] <hanasaki> i need to change the program assoc w/ "moice player"
[06:39] <hanasaki> movie
[06:39] <iamelite> iiiears - i have xorg.conf open with text editor
[06:39] <iiiears> iiears - Else gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   - Do you see what looks like 64000?
[06:39] <yallaman> look at that one..a nice guide for starters and stuff you would install as a start
[06:39] <lerick> ok
[06:39] <iiiears> iamlite - do you have an ATI or nVidia card?
[06:40] <iamelite> iiiears: ATI
[06:40] <iamelite> FTW
[06:40] <yallaman> is there a way to switch back to fluxbox from gnome? like in fluxbox you only go to the menu and window > gnome
[06:40] <Subvertir> hahah "tracking it back now"
[06:40] <iiiears> Great. - Does 64000 appear there?
[06:41] <d00by> whats the package with the standard windows fonts called?
[06:41] <r2d4> Does Ubuntu have a DU Meter alternative?
[06:41] <iamelite> iiiears: looking...
[06:41] <gdb> d00by: msttcorefonts
[06:41] <d00by> thx gdb
[06:41] <nickrud> yallaman, if you're running a regular ubuntu, you can choose to run gnome vs. xfce, see the option menu
[06:42] <iiiears> iamlite - It is in the top half of xorg.conf
[06:42] <mattyv> i have read that both ralink rt2500 and atheros based wireless cards are quite well supported, which one would u all recommend?
[06:42] <nickrud> yallaman, erm, during the login screen :
[06:42] <yallaman> i know this
[06:42] <satempler> dose any one know of a good screencasting app that I don't have to recompile ffmpeg and isn't istanbul
[06:42] <digirat> can someone help me figure out what my fat32 partition is labeled as? (/dev/sdb4?)
[06:42] <nickrud> yallaman, and the issue is then?
[06:42] <yallaman> but i hoped it was maybe a console command to quickly change
[06:42] <Subvertir> I got the Xgl and gnome and the dock running
[06:42] <Subvertir> it's pretty badass
[06:42] <Subvertir> hahahahha god I fucking love lilo
[06:43] <nickrud> digirat, sudo fdisk -l to start
[06:43] <iamelite> iiiears: i cant see the sequence 64000, 64xxx... or 64X*
[06:43] <lerick> "Enter the complete path to the directory where you want
[06:43] <lerick> RealPlayer to be installed.  You must specify the full
[06:43] <lerick> pathname of the directory and have write privileges to
[06:43] <lerick> the chosen directory.
[06:43] <lerick> Directory:  [/home/ezflojeezy/Desktop/RealPlayer] :"
[06:43] <iiiears> digirat - sudo fdisk -l  thats "L" should list what you have
[06:43] <digirat> nickrud, thx
[06:43] <digirat> iiiears, thx
[06:43] <digirat> foudn it
[06:44] <lerick> what directory should i put?
[06:44] <yallaman> like in fluxbox..you only need to go to the meny and chose window > gnome..and gnome starts right up..with all the apps still running
[06:44] <nickrud> lerick, choose /home/ezflojeezy , that will work, and be remediable
[06:44] <lerick> ok, thank you
[06:44] <iiiears> iamelite: Hm. - Wondering if you might post it to ubuntu pastebin
[06:45] <iamelite> iiiears: whats the site?
[06:45] <nickrud> digirat, I don't know why, but I accept :)
[06:45] <iiiears> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:46] <iiiears> nickrud - Was Seveas nice enough to set that up for us?
[06:46] <iiiears> ubuntu pastebin
[06:46] <iamelite> iiiears: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16418 - xorg.conf
[06:46] <Lord-ChewY> im having rouble with quake4
[06:46] <iiiears> Got it. - give me a sec.
[06:46] <Lord-ChewY> one of the SDL libs is missing, i think its the 32 bit one
[06:46] <nickrud> iiiears, yup. and it's been around long enough for me to think of it as reliable :)
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> cause im running amd64 ubuntu
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> i looked in lib and lib32 and the lib isn't there
[06:47] <iiiears> pastebin.com sure wasn't. - lol
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> but its in lib64
[06:47] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> quake4 runs on linux?
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> where can i get the 3d bit SDL libs
[06:47] <Sjoerd> What command to make all files in a directory mine ^^ ?
[06:47] <nickrud> iiiears, they come and they go
[06:47] <jason> how do i install new kde theme
[06:47] <Lord-ChewY> and do the SDL libs need to be compiled for my kernel or can i just get binaries
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> IF I want to run a program using Wine, what folder should the program.exe be in?
[06:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: how to install atheme?
[06:48] <jason> for kde yes
[06:49] <digirat> i "mounted" my fat32 partition in fstab like this, but still can't write to it... what's wrong in my config?
[06:49] <digirat> /dev/sdb4       /media/music    vfat    users,owner,rw,umask=000        0 0
[06:49] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: run kcontrol,
[06:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: go to appearance and themes
[06:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason: then theme menager
[06:50] <jason> oh alright cool thanks
[06:51] <mezoko> Hi
[06:51] <Megan> hi
[06:51] <Cornellius> 'lo
[06:51] <mezoko> How can I save alsa's settings
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Does anyone here use WIne? What folder do I need to use for the program.exe?
[06:51] <Megan> crlt+s
[06:52] <Megan> hehe, go windowx!
[06:52] <iiiears> iamlite - Honestly this should be a simple question. - Unfortuneatly, Having used only nVidia cards i can only say run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - i found a couple of other xorg.conf files for the 9600 card and didn't see any mention of the amount of RAM.
[06:52] <iiiears> maybe nickrud can save us. - grin
[06:53] <iamelite> hmmm
[06:53] <nickrud> iiiears, if I look back to the last, X? ati ? bugs?
[06:53] <Discipulus> what's a different lightweight browser I can use? Firefox freezes on me alot
[06:53] <mezoko> Ok let tryt his question how can I get a HOME Dir on the desktop?
[06:54] <nickrud> Discipulus, if firefox is freezing that's not right; but epiphany-browser is very light weight
[06:54] <iamelite> Well if worst comes to worst, i have an old NV GF 5800oc ive been useing as a coaster.
[06:54] <iiiears> nickrud - I don't want to give him advice for a GeForce card. - ATI all in wonder cards are nice if you leave them at one resolution.
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Firefox works fine, there is a different problem
[06:54] <nickrud> iiiears, I know a bit about that abstractly
[06:55] <nickrud> only owned cheap nvidia & voodoo3, the bomb
[06:55] <Discipulus> nickrud, I don't know what it is, but it freezes on me, a lot
[06:55] <iamelite> iiiears: i have a ATI RD 9600xt
[06:55] <mattyv> digirat: try looking here http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php
[06:55] <nomin> I have nvidia geforce4
[06:55] <whyami> so is synaptic a gnome app and if so, what is the equivalent to synaptic for kubuntu?
[06:56] <iiiears> voodoo3 - Hey, a real GPU - that was expensive in it's day.
[06:56] <hanasaki> what is a good gnome dvd player?
[06:56] <Drunkellius> whyami:  Adept
[06:56] <nickrud> Discipulus, just exactly what card, lspci & commercial description? I've watched some things, but I gotta have an out
[06:56] <Krhis> No channel topic?
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> whyami: you can use synaptic
[06:57] <iamelite> I miss 3DFX, and glide
[06:57] <nickrud> Krhis, ah, a side effect of the ass
[06:57] <juanzhewudi> when i installed the fglrx dirver downloaded from ati.com, all are ok, but when i run the #aticonfig, it told me that "error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:57] <juanzhewudi> ".what can i do now?
[06:57] <Krhis> nickrud, hehe
[06:57] <iamelite> ahh Glide was god
[06:57] <garryF> What is the reason for choosing nicknames with a O or 0 as the first or second character or some other funny character that looks like a O so that nobody can reply to them?
[06:58] <tanath> i need help getting the side buttons on my mouse working. if i play with xmod map i can get other buttons to do those functions, but when assigning them to the correct buttons they do nothing
[06:58] <nickrud> the absolute lowest users I've ev er seen
[06:58] <whyami> Jack_Sparrow: but it doesn't seem to come with kubuntu so I was wondering what people are using there.
[06:58] <iiiears> iamlite - Someone else has had your problem and written about it. The only real problem now is finding it.
[06:58] <tanath> my xorg.config has 10 buttons...
[06:58] <Dapperguy> heya
[06:58] <Dapperguy> help with mysql install...
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> whyami:  just get it with adept
[06:58] <garryF> I found info on the quake 4 and how to get it to run on linux .... http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/07/1547208
[06:59] <nickrud> tanath, 10 buttons in xorg.conf?
[06:59] <mezoko> How can I save my alsa settings?
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> whyami:  I dont think you even need to enable universe
[06:59] <stardash> does anyone know of a good guide to installing nvidia drivers?
[06:59] <iamelite> iiiears: anything you can do to help me. im not a coder yet
[06:59] <tanath> nickrud: 	Option        "Buttons"         "10"
[06:59] <njdavid> Anyone here know of a Windowblinds skin that looks good with the Tokidoki LS theme?
[06:59] <Toma-> ooo. servers still under attack?
[06:59] <garryF> if you use alsamixer they auto-save when you hit escape.
[06:59] <Dapperguy> was doing a walkthrough for bugzilla and said to delete some old mysql directories, now i cant install after apt-get remove mysql-server, apt-get install, says /etc/init.d/mysql[9091] : WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz
[07:00] <mezoko> garryF: until reboot
[07:00] <nickrud> tanath, did you add that, or did sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org do it?
[07:00] <tanath> nickrud: i did
[07:00] <Dapperguy> my.cnf not there
[07:00] <nickrud> tanath, ah.
[07:00] <tanath> nickrud: i followed a guide on the forums
[07:00] <tanath> nickrud: got everything working great, except the thumb buttons do nothing
[07:00] <Dapperguy> basically i just want to "get it back like a clean install"
[07:00] <garryF> mezoko Hmm, I had always thought that alsactrl store was needed to make it persist.
[07:01] <Drunkellius> Anywone here use SoundKonverter ??
[07:01] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I turn off the bluetooth device in thinkpad r52?
[07:01] <Dapperguy> instead of biling cnf files from scratch
[07:01] <mezoko> garryF: yeah it is, but most distro have a script to do that when you shutdown the computer
[07:01] <Dapperguy> *building
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> stardash: what driver did it autodetect and install?
[07:01] <nickrud> tanath, you're further along than I am then, sorry for the pointed question. If you'll mail it to me, then I might have a reference :)
[07:02] <tanath> nickrud: you having mouse troubles?
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[07:02] <nickrud> tanath, exactly none, for several years. But, I've never had a 10 button mouse
[07:02] <mezoko> I need to add a program to the start up list how can I do this?
[07:03] <garryF> So does Ubuntu do an alsactl store when it shuts down as well or need a user do alsactl store explicitly?
[07:03] <tanath> nickrud: ah. i have a logitech mx500. i love it :) i just miss using the side buttons for forward and back
[07:03] <mezoko> garryF: well /etc/init.d/alsa-utils controls that
[07:03] <Amaranth> wtf
[07:03] <mezoko> I'm just tyring to figure out hwo to add taht to startup and all
[07:04] <nickrud> tanath, look for info about that mouse on google, but add the qualifier debian. It may help narrow the search
[07:04] <tanath> wow
[07:04] <nomin> weeee!
[07:04] <Jack_Sparrow> weeeee
[07:04] <tanath> nickrud: i have been searching google
[07:04] <tanath> nickrud: i think i may have found what i need :)
[07:04] <Eleaf> bawahahahah
[07:04] <garryF> Wow, there went a lot of foks, even some regulars.
[07:04] <tanath> nickrud: thx though
[07:04] <iiiears> iamlite - If you are feeling adventurous find an example xorg.conf with the amount of ram filled in. edit your conf file to match it.
[07:04] <siriusnova> howdy
[07:04] <nickrud> tanath, eh, google is our friend
[07:04] <DBO> how are 438 people ALREADY here?
[07:04] <siriusnova> is there any way to change the default sun java 5 theme
[07:05] <siriusnova> so its not so ugly anymore
[07:05] <Hit3k> Could someone please help me by telling me how I split a folder up into diffrent folders of 4.4Gb each?
[07:05] <nickrud> DBO, you're on the subset that's working
[07:05] <DBO> Hit3k, tar then use the split command
[07:05] <Hit3k> DBO thanks :)
[07:05] <Amaranth> We lost the topic?
[07:05] <iamelite> iiiears: im looking at the file i found a line  -- Option	    "OpenGLOverlay" "off" -- Can i change this to "on" safely?
[07:05] <mezoko> Ok how the hell do I add somethign to ubuntu startup list
[07:05] <nickrud> Hobbsee, more , more
[07:05] <DBO> Hi Hobbsee
[07:05] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I turn off the bluetooth device??
[07:06] <iiiears> I haven't seen any samples with a ram listed for an ATI card.  - I have no idea why ATI keeps there drivers closed and doesn't offer  better specs to developers.
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: we lost a whole lot of stuff
[07:06] <nickrud> a side effect
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: that means chanserv's workign agian
[07:06] <Hit3k> so is nickserv
[07:06] <hanasaki> how do you turn on subtitles in gxine?
[07:06] <nomin> I recently found a great addon for firefox.  It lets you easily choose which media players to use for different video types.
[07:06] <Amaranth> Trying to remember where ubuntulog has it's logs
[07:06] <Hit3k> but you already knew that
[07:06] <Toma-> wb services :)
[07:06] <nomin> MediaPlayerConnectivity  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[07:06] <Hobbsee> !logs
[07:06] <iiiears> iamlite - I don't know. - doesn't sound like a setting for RAM size/
[07:06] <MTecknology>  I finally figured out how to get my wireless working... I use the command 'sudo iwconfig ap any' and it starts working... How can I add this to a startup script??
[07:07] <nomin> I recommend getting that firefox addon.  It's solved problems for me very easily.
[07:07] <iamelite> iiiears: granted, but might solve annother problem as well
[07:07] <garryF> So, who spilled a soda or beer down the back of the nickserver.
[07:07] <nickrud> Amaranth, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ ? haven't checked lately
[07:07] <Amaranth> i've got it
[07:08] <iiiears> Hobbsee - Can you specify the amount of onboard video RAM for an ATI card?
[07:08] <Eleaf> hi
[07:08] <Dial_tone> you can specify it for any card
[07:08] <Hobbsee> iiiears: no idea
[07:08] <Dial_tone> make it in KB tho
[07:08] <nickrud> iiiears, you can specify ram, for any card under the device section
[07:08] <iiiears> I haven't seen it in xorg.conf for them.
[07:09] <garryF> Sounds like Mr Former Migrainesoft linux basher has too much time on his hands. I've noticed an increase in attacks after his sudden departure.
[07:09] <nickrud> iiiears, because it's not usually needed
[07:09] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[07:09] <Dapperguy> after reinstall of mysql-server, geting no my.cnf found..help
[07:09] <Amaranth> I can't find the topic.
[07:09] <Amaranth> Someone using xchat should have it though
[07:09] <sneex> execute /topic
[07:10] <iiiears> nickrud - So maybe use an nVidia xorg.conf for a template?
[07:10] <Amaranth> sneex: um
[07:10] <sneex> topic death
[07:10] <sneex> I see
[07:10] <sneex> sorry
[07:10] <Amaranth> Yeah.
[07:10] <sneex> =(
[07:10] <Hobbsee> got it :D
[07:10] <Amaranth> excellent
[07:10] <sneex> yippy
[07:10] <sneex> =)
[07:10] <Amaranth> i need to start logging again
[07:10] <iamelite> iiiears i found it
[07:10] <iiiears> jusr\t change that -one- line setting for RAM?
[07:11] <nickrud> iiiears, yes, but examine /var/log/xorg.X.log, it's gospel.
[07:12] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: i found all the topics in my server window
[07:12] <iiiears> iamlite - Glad you did. - Gives me time to swat my cat away from the keyboard. - lol
[07:12] <nickrud> at least this month
[07:12] <MTecknology>  I finally figured out how to get my wireless working... I use the command 'sudo iwconfig ap any' and it starts working... How can I add this to a startup script??
[07:13] <iiiears> nickrud - Okay, Than tonight is no execption - learned something new.
[07:13] <Amaranth> iiiears: That's always a good thing.
[07:13] <iamelite> iiiears: the auto configuration... command you gave me " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" gave me the option to edit memory used.
[07:13] <nickrud> MTecknology, the hacky way would to be adding that line to /etc/rc.local ; if that works after a boot it'll give you time to figure out where that invocation should be
[07:13] <Dial_tone> VideoRam    131072
[07:14] <PFA> WHACK.
[07:14] <iiiears> iamlite - :)
[07:15] <iiiears> iamlite - Still curious about xorg.conf did it add a line that mentions the amount of RAM your card has?
[07:15] <iamelite> iiiears: ehhh i was text editing... However it would seem that the command you gave me. will leave the memory option "blank" by default
[07:15] <MTecknology> nickrud, do I just add the line b4 exit 0?
[07:15] <iamelite> iiiears: do i need to restart before testing my video settings?
[07:15] <iiiears> iamlite - not a bug a feature for backwards compatibility no doubt.
[07:16] <AlienX> hooray!
[07:16] <garryF> should be able to close all apps and do a ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x
[07:16] <iiiears> iamlite - /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:16] <MTecknology> nickrud, that, and do I ommit sudo from the command?
[07:16] <nickrud> MTecknology, exactly.
[07:16] <nickrud> MTecknology, the exit 0 is a hack that says,
[07:17] <iamelite> iiiears: * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 
[07:17] <iamelite>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail] 
[07:17] <nickrud> 'all went well' even if your addtion sucks ;)
[07:17] <iiiears> iamlite or do it the the wrong faster way. CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[07:17] <iamelite> iiiears: wonr?
[07:17] <MTecknology> nickrud, cool, should I have sudo in the command or is tha run at root  level?
[07:17] <iamelite> wrong?
[07:17] <iiiears> iamlite - J/K ;)
[07:17] <Amaranth> it's not wrong
[07:17] <iamelite> ah
[07:18] <iamelite> ok...
[07:18] <nickrud> MTecknology, no sudo needed, you're right. It runs at the root level
[07:18] <Amaranth> just not "nice" :)
[07:18] <iamelite> well ty for the help
[07:18] <iamelite> ill update you when i get back
[07:18] <MTecknology> nickrud, ty much
[07:19] <Dapperguy> when i reinstalled mysql-server, missing my.cnf
[07:19] <Dapperguy> i was doing a walkthrough for bugzilla and it fuct something u
[07:19] <nickrud> MTecknology, I know less than my fingernail about wireless, but that's a reasonable way to use the ubuntu boot/runlevel system
[07:19] <stardash> anyone had luck getting nvidia drivers to install in ubuntu?
[07:19] <Dapperguy> now i just want it fresh
[07:19] <sneex> what version of ubuntu?
[07:19] <stardash> I keep getting an error that I need to shut down x
[07:19] <stardash> 5.10
[07:19] <nickrud> stardash, every time install, yes
[07:19] <roostishaw> how would I make a shell script usable on the web?
[07:20] <iiiears> rootishaw - link to it with PHP/PERL????
[07:21] <iiiears> rootishaw - nvm - forget i even said that.
[07:21] <nickrud> stardash, ok, do this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-formats-$(uname -r)  on a command line. After that is done, type glx-config enable
[07:21] <sneex> roostishaw, your shell script must follow cgi conventions and interact with the WWW correctly
[07:22] <thoreauputic> nickrud: s/formats/modules ?
[07:22] <nickrud> thoreauputic, thank you
[07:22] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:23] <nickrud> stardash, did you see the correction from thoreauputic ?
[07:23] <stardash> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-formats-2.6.12-10-386
[07:23] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:23] <nickrud> :)
[07:25] <garryF> If stardash is using breezy shouldn't he be downloading the driver from nvidia.com instead of getting them from the repositories that are drivers for dapper or has that changed?
[07:25] <nickrud> stardash, linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:26] <thoreauputic> garryF: if he has breezy his repos should be breezy repos
[07:26] <nickrud> garryF, the best driver is not the issue, but what is the driver that is suppored
[07:26] <garryF> Oh yeah
[07:27] <Socket7`> hi
[07:27] <Socket7`> i need help getting x to see a laptop display right. I have a modeline thats supposed to work for my particular laptop, and i put it in the monitors section of xorg.conf. but I'm still getting an error when i start x saying   (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (no mode of this name)
[07:27] <stardash> I got it from repositories
[07:27] <gopena> k
[07:27] <gopena> im pissed off
[07:27] <gopena> someone told me
[07:27] <VieLGus-KuTas> better to be pissed off then pissed on
[07:27] <gopena> that if installed all the upadtes
[07:27] <garryF> VieLGus-KuTas LOL
[07:28] <gopena> the update program would let me upgrade to 6.06
[07:28] <gopena> but its not
[07:28] <iamelite> iiiears: im backl
[07:28] <gopena> help me
[07:28] <gopena> anyone
[07:28] <nickrud> a good choice. Not the latest, but integrated and working
[07:28] <gopena> im tired
[07:28] <Knome> Socket7': have you tried installing '915resolution' ?
[07:28] <gopena> ?
[07:28] <iiiears> iamlite - (crosses fingers) Okay, How did it go?
[07:28] <iamelite> iiiears: Now its saying Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:28] <gopena> i installed over 120 updates
[07:28] <iamelite> When i start my wine game
[07:29] <Socket7`> Knome, I did not know of its existence until you just spoke of it
[07:29] <gopena> the program isint saying i can update anythig more
[07:29] <Knome> Socket7`: do you have access to a command line?
[07:29] <nickrud> iamelite, so, take that to wine. no offence, but that
[07:29] <nickrud> s not ubuntu
[07:29] <iiiears> iamlite - add dri to modules section and possibly glcore
[07:29] <gopena> i dont want a dev version
[07:29] <Socket7`> Knome, yes.
[07:29] <gopena> i want to upgrade to the stable build
[07:29] <Socket7`> i have a terminal open
[07:30] <Knome> Socket7`: try 'sudo apt-get install 915resolution'
[07:30] <iamelite> glxgears are running at 60 frames
[07:30] <iamelite> dri to modules. ok
[07:30] <iiiears> iamlite - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg enable the framebuffer device and the option for dri and glcore.
[07:30] <gopena> someone help me upgarde to 6.06 im a friggin retard
[07:30] <gopena> anyone?
[07:30] <Socket7`> Knome, it does not exist
[07:30] <Knome> k
[07:30] <Knome> just a min
[07:31] <nickrud> gopena, what are you running currently
[07:31] <gopena> i think
[07:31] <gopena> umm breezy
[07:31] <gopena> 5.10
[07:31] <Socket7`> cant find package
[07:31] <Subvertir> What's a good gnome mp3 player? preferably with a panel applet to control it
[07:31] <nickrud> gopena, lsb_release -a will tell you for a fact
[07:31] <gopena> k hold on nickrud
[07:32] <Krhis> Subvertir, I use xmms and gnome-xmms
[07:32] <Knome> Socket7`: that's odd apt-cache shows it on my system
[07:32] <Subvertir> Krhis, thanks I'll try that out
[07:32] <Socket7`> mine doesn't :(
[07:32] <nickrud> rhythmbox, or muine are nice
[07:33] <gopena> Nickrud- its 5.10 alright
[07:33] <gopena> breezy badger
[07:33] <iiiears> !botsnack
[07:33] <Krhis> No bot :(
[07:33] <nickrud> gopena, then ubotu isn
[07:33] <nomin> for anyone whos interested, I found a great addon for firefox.  It lets you choose which media player to use for different file types.  This may get rid of the need for plugins if you don't mind opening the videos or audio externally
[07:34] <nickrud> t around, I'll get a link a sec
[07:34] <iiiears> !Sends flowers and wishes ubotu a speedy recovery. -lol
[07:34] <gopena> what?
[07:34] <gopena> whats an isn?
[07:34] <nomin> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/446/
[07:34] <Sjoerd_> I have awstats running and it includes hits on the stats pages, any way to stop this?
[07:34] <wastrel> awstats eh.  there's probably an ignore list you can configure.
[07:35] <gopena> nickrid
[07:35] <nickrud> gopena, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[07:35] <gopena> thanks
[07:35] <nickrud> gopena, it's reasonably good page, read it thru
[07:35] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: Do you think there is a way to stop the hits on www.domain.com/awstats/ from being included in the apache logs?
[07:35] <gopena> i will thanks
[07:35] <gopena> bye everyone
[07:36] <wastrel> Sjoerd_:  i dunno but i bet there's a way to tell awstats to ignore those hits.
[07:36] <garryF> !ubotudead?
[07:36] <iamelite> ok its not about just wine, im getting 60 frames in glxgears. It says Load modules "DRI" in xorg.conf
[07:36] <nickrud> dapperupgrades nees the guy that just did restrictedformats to redo ;)
[07:37] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: Allright... It was just that I saw the log file being full with hits from awstats.
[07:37] <iiiears> wasterl - While you tell it to ignore certain IP ranges. Change the default listen port. keep it well above above 1000
[07:38] <garryF> iamelite: I had one fellow having issues getting dri to work. We tried all kinds o things, till he just marked it for reinstall and it started working.
[07:38] <garryF> He was using compiz with an nvidia card.
[07:38] <iamelite> garryF: so off to package manager then
[07:39] <Socket7`> Knome,  mine does not have it
[07:39] <garryF> iamelite Good luck.
[07:39] <yallaman> zomg...direct rendering is broke again..*cries'
[07:39] <nf4> is there a way to format flash cards with ubuntu
[07:39] <garryF> He did get compiz and dri both working. I didn't want to give the impression that running compiz with nvidia was a bad idea. It seems to work for him.
[07:40] <iiiears> compiz is fun. - Having trouble with it locking up. - wondering if it iis a hardware or software problem.
[07:40] <Socket7`> Knome,  i can download and run the binary for 915resolution though
[07:40] <iamelite> GarryF: It wasnt intalled... LOL
[07:40] <Knome> try it
[07:40] <nickrud> garryF, that is a well known fix for debian based systems; the packagers are aware of the problems, and if you keep up to date you get a lot of fixes
[07:40] <Socket7`> Knome I have and I'm confused already
[07:41] <Socket7`> A usage satement isn't much help to me when I can answer none of the fields.
[07:41] <garryF> nickrud Hmm. Well, I run the update stuff regularly.
[07:41] <nf4> i had a bad usb port and have some curupted data on my xp card and need to format it but it the computer dosent even reconize it any more
[07:42] <nickrud> garryF, that was a hopeful version of how it works, I admit
[07:42] <Socket7`> Knome, it shows me some modes
[07:42] <Socket7`> but what do i do with them?
[07:42] <garryF> nickrud :)
[07:42] <nickrud> garryF, but, it's true. Sometimes patience is a virtue
[07:43] <Knome> Socket7`: i'm actually not sure but I read about someone who used it to get 1280x768 on their laptop
[07:43] <garryF> nickrud Yep.
[07:43] <dli> nf4,  what card ?
[07:43] <Socket7`> Knome,  well this doesn't look like it will help me
[07:43] <Socket7`> it cant find the proper modes anyways
[07:43] <Knome> Socket7`: k I just threw it out there
[07:44] <nf4> fuji film
[07:44] <nf4> xd 128
[07:44] <garryF> nickrud The user with his issue, who I sent to reinstall, just told me he found out that his stuff wasn't installed at all. LoL.
[07:44] <Socket7`> :/
[07:44] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: whats ur problem?
[07:44] <NickGarvey> smells bad
[07:44] <nickrud> garryF, welcome to the support teamsters
[07:44] <Socket7`> i need help getting x to see a laptop display right. I have a modeline thats supposed to work for my particular laptop, and i put it in the monitors section of xorg.conf. but I'm still getting an error when i start x saying   (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x768" (no mode of this name) and the display runs at 1024x768
[07:45] <dli> nf4, the device shows up in dmesg ? or install sg3_utils and run command " sg_map "
[07:45] <nf4> the problem with my usb port is that it is one that is on the front of the case and it dosnt have enough plugs that plug in to the motherboard so it isnt stable
[07:45] <nf4> whats dmesg
[07:45] <Aven> hey
[07:45] <dli> Socket7`, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:45] <Aven> how do you apt-get and re install a software?
[07:45] <Aven> via command line, not synaptic
[07:46] <Socket7`> dli, done it. 3 times.
[07:46] <garryF> dmesg is a command that shows you what took place when you last booted linux.
[07:46] <dli> Socket7`, pastebin your xorg.conf
[07:46] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: I tried but it keeps including them :(
[07:46] <wastrel> Sjoerd_:  i dunno :] 
[07:47] <dli> nf4, if you know the problem? why not try another port for the time being?
[07:47] <Sjoerd_> wastrel: This is the line: SkipFiles="REGEX[^\/awstats] "
[07:47] <Socket7`> dli www.pastebin.com/729703
[07:47] <Dapperguy> hey where is init.d supposed to be in ubuntu
[07:48] <Aven> how do you apt-get and re install a software?
[07:48] <nf4> yeah i didnt find out until the data was corupted becouse it would read it just had a problem writing
[07:48] <Aven> via command line, not synaptic
[07:48] <Socket7`> It's not going to do you much good, seeing as X completely ignores the modes set inside it. :(
[07:48] <Sjoerd_> Aven: apt-get remove then apt-get install
[07:48] <nickrud> Aven, sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[07:48] <Bot_Builder> can anyone recommend a good way to view tex files?
[07:48] <dli> test
[07:48] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: For what?
[07:48] <Aven> ah ok
[07:48] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: did you run the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:48] <Dapperguy> Bot_Builder, nano
[07:48] <Aven> anyone know a good identd software? other than oident
[07:48] <garryF> !YouThere?
[07:48] <Bot_Builder> uh, just in general, I'd like to look at the content of a .tex file i have
[07:48] <Aven> is there any other?
[07:48] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas,  yes. 3 times.
[07:48] <Bot_Builder> Not the markup, what it actually looks like
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Aven: gidentd ?
[07:49] <dli> Bot_Builder, kile from kde
[07:49] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas,  it creates a valid config file but then i get the same error i pasted above and X defaults to 1024x768
[07:49] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: Yes you can use nano like Dapperguy suggested, if you need to edit use sudo nano <file>
[07:49] <Aven> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:49] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I've always wondered, why one ident over another?
[07:49] <Dapperguy> are hard links in red?
[07:49] <charlesJacobs> how do I set up and distribute files over a local network in ubuntu?
[07:49] <charlesJacobs> with other ubuntu machines
[07:49] <VieLGus-KuTas> well , do it , and when u select the resolutions, select the one you want as the only one you monitor can display , also make sure you select the correct driver from the list ,
[07:49] <dli> Bot_Builder, you may try lyx
[07:49] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, I have also put a modeline in the monitors section of xorg.conf, but it gets ignored too with the same error.
[07:50] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: what is your video card?
[07:50] <Aven> hey, what group is the main account supposed to be?
[07:50] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: please define: what it actually looks like
[07:50] <Aven> the main account as powerful as root, with sudo
[07:50] <daaku> i'm having this strange problem that my laptop running dapper suffers from this odd lag (in pretty much everthing - including doing something as simple as typing in a shell)
[07:50] <thoreauputic> nickrud: no idea - I just found that one with apt-cache a few weeks ago and installed it
[07:50] <nickrud> ok
[07:50] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas,  perhaps you are misunderstanding me. I ran the configurator correctly. I set the resolutions I wanted correctly It still does not work.
[07:50] <thoreauputic> nickrud: I only use it for IRC...
[07:50] <nickrud> me also
[07:50] <Bot_Builder> Sjoerd_: what the tex markup actually means - I was under the impression it is presentational markup
[07:50] <nickrud> thoreauputic,
[07:50] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, running the configurator has already failed to fix the problem.
[07:50] <garryF> The main account should be in a group matching the name of the user if you are using dapper
[07:50] <charlesJacobs> daaku: do you have an ATI video card?
[07:50] <nf4> can i format the drive in terminal
[07:50] <Aven> hey, what group is the main account supposed to be?
[07:50] <Dapperguy> are hard links in red text?
[07:51] <Bot_Builder> dli - Ok, i'll try kile, thanks
[07:51] <thoreauputic> nickrud: ?
[07:51] <daaku> charlesJacobs: no, its an intel 915 with shared memory
[07:51] <nickrud> thoreauputic, bad return key usage, no moe
[07:51] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: I think it's only included in kde package
[07:51] <thoreauputic> nickrud: ah, OK :)
[07:51] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, http://femto.cs.uiuc.edu/~sbond/Fujitsu_P5010D/ is all the info i have on my laptop
[07:52] <Sjoerd_> Bot_Builder: You use a cli version right?
[07:52] <Dapperguy> hardlinks > red ?
[07:52] <garryF> Hmm, I wonder if I misread Aven's question.
[07:52] <charlesJacobs> daaku: you might want to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", go through that, and then restart X
[07:52] <charlesJacobs> how do I set up and distribute files over a local network in ubuntu? with other ubuntu machines
[07:52] <daaku> another odd thing is that top shows pretty high user CPU usage, even though the process list when sorted by CPU usage doesnt show anything that high
[07:52] <Socket7`> bah. theres a hack for this on the page
[07:52] <Dapperguy> charlesJacobs, read https://help.ubuntu.com/pdf/ubuntu/C/serverguide.pdf
[07:52] <dli> charlesJacobs, nfs or simply scp
[07:52] <nf4> daaku that happend to me when i didnt have the video drivers properly installed might want to check in to that
[07:53] <Socket7`> god i hate compiling stuff.
[07:53] <Dapperguy> so if a delete a hard link does that delete the file it points to?
[07:53] <charlesJacobs> Dapperguy: thanks
[07:53] <charlesJacobs> dli: nfs
[07:53] <nf4> dapper uses 200-300mb of ram just idleing on my system
[07:53] <dli> nf4, " free -m "
[07:53] <daaku> charlesJacobs, nf4: i looked at my xorg.conf, and it seemed ok - but i'm going to shutdown X and see if i still see the lag
[07:54] <Bot_Builder> Sjoerd_ - I'm not sure what 'cli version' is, however i just got kile off synaptic
[07:54] <nf4> free -m?
[07:54] <daaku> nf4: my clean boot uses less than 150mb :)
[07:54] <kinection_> hello, i'm wondering... how fast does ubuntu tend to run on a 700mhz AMD? because it's being very slow for me.
[07:54] <VieLGus-KuTas> Socket7`: ok , cant really help u with that , maybe somone that has done it before will take over
[07:54] <Dapperguy> kinection_, i have it on a 400 mhz with 256 ram, works ok
[07:54] <nf4> i have 2gb so  i am not worried :)
[07:54] <Amaranth> daaku: default install of dapper uses 96MB of RAM on boot
[07:55] <kinection_> Dapperguy: ok, do you know of any potential places where i should look for to see why's slow?
[07:55] <Socket7`> VieLGus-KuTas, I think I just need to get this damn hack working
[07:55] <wastrel> kinection_:  it'll be very slow.  more RAM will help, and using a lightweight windowmanger instead of gnome or kde
[07:55] <nickrud> kinection_, it can be slow; the key is to choose a light theme: I use clearlooks on an 800 mhz and it's ok
[07:55] <Dapperguy> so can someone help me with my question on links
[07:55] <daaku> Amaranth: with X?
[07:55] <Dapperguy> kinection_, how much ram?
[07:56] <wastrel> Dapperguy:  what wm are you using?
[07:56] <Amaranth> daaku: Yep.
[07:56] <kinection_> 256+128 stick
[07:56] <Dapperguy> wastrel, kde
[07:56] <kinection_> 372
[07:56] <kinection_> 372MB, 700mhz amd athlon
[07:56] <dli> kinection_, 384 should be ok
[07:56] <kinection_> er,, 374
[07:56] <kinection_> ...
[07:56] <kinection_> sorry
[07:56] <Drunkellius> acroread-plugins
[07:56] <kinection_> i meant what he said
[07:57] <Drunkellius> what are the plugins actually ?
[07:57] <daaku> Amaranth: really? the number is from top, or something else? i know RAM usage numbers can be different based on where you get them :)
[07:57] <kinection_> yea... i guess it should be, the whole story is, however. i"m also running XGL/Compiz... BUT! it was a little slow before that too. I'm just wondering where can i look for bottlenecks
[07:57] <Dapperguy> whats the package name for xfce?
[07:57] <daaku> Amaranth: otherwise i gotta figure out where it all goes!
[07:57] <Amaranth> daaku: From gnome-system-monitor
[07:57] <dli> kinection_, your fault, you run xgl on an old machine
[07:57] <Amaranth> daaku: BenM first pointed it out to me
[07:58] <Amaranth> daaku: and he knows memory usage :P
[07:58] <nickrud> kinection_, xgl is not really good
[07:58] <kinection_> nickrud: i wanted to play around and see what it's like, so i took a box i didn't care about to test it out on
[07:58] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: you probably want either xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <daaku> Amaranth: i'll have to look into it
[07:58] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, which has smaller overhead?
[07:58] <nickrud> kinection_, heh. play away, then :)
[07:58] <kinection_> nickrud: and i actually like it a lot, although some of the plugins aren't that stable
[07:59] <kinection_> nickrud: i'll probably remove it later, but i was just looking for performance enhancements elsewhere,
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: both are xfce4 - xubuntu-desktop just adds a collection of apps etc
[07:59] <nickrud> I'm waiting till september, then looking int aiglx
[07:59] <dli> kinection_, why would you complain it for being slow?
[07:59] <nickrud> into, that is
[07:59] <kinection_> dli: because it was slow before installing XGL/Compiz too
[07:59] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, kewl>> hey do you know if hard links are red?
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop will show you
[07:59] <kinection_> dli: XGL/Compiz actually hasn't made too much of a hit on it, performance wise
[07:59] <dli> kinection_, okay, stop X, and debug
[07:59] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, stupid question...lol
[08:00] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: ? My xterms are set not to use colours :)
[08:00] <Amaranth> "\he latest Dapper betas are starting up GNOME with less than 95 MB of ram. This is really impressive. Everyone involved in this should feel really good about it."
[08:00] <Amaranth> oops
[08:00] <Amaranth> should say The
[08:00] <kinection_> dli: i may do that later when i don't need x to be running
[08:00] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: I got sick of dark blue on black ;)
[08:00] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, what is the command to tell you if hard or soft?
[08:00] <nickrud> thoreauputic, then you are lazy. Or, a masochist for using xterm
[08:00] <garryF> Poke your finger with a pin, if what comes out matches the color of the link, the link is red.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> nickrud: actually I mostly use urxvt, and I plead guilty to laziness :)
[08:01] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I have never even tried  urxvt, so laziness is my name
[08:01] <dli> garryF, some blood can be blue
[08:01] <Amaranth> daaku: "The latest Dapper betas are starting up GNOME with less than 95 MB of ram. This is really impressive. Everyone involved in this should feel really good about it."
[08:02] <thoreauputic> nickrud: there you go :) Gnome-terminal is too slow for my taste
[08:02] <garryF> dli I was thinking of some remark about if it's blue then you are dead but I figured I was pushin it. :)
[08:02] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, where is init.d in ubuntu
[08:02] <Socket7`> great. now this hack for my laptop wont compile
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: which one? All in /etc/
[08:02] <xarq> is there a guide to building ubuntu from scratch, for us masochistic technical types?
[08:02] <Dapperguy> the one for deamons
[08:02] <daaku> Amaranth: nice. maybe i should look into gnome based desktop again :)
[08:02] <Amaranth> daaku: hehe
[08:02] <thoreauputic> for instance /etc/init.d/gdm and so on
[08:02] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, the one for deamons
[08:03] <nickrud> thoreauputic, it's a balancing act for me: learn as little as possible, leverage other peoples work. gnome-terminal wins hands down :)
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: there's usually one for each daemon
[08:03] <xarq> Dapperguy: do you mean demons, or daemons?
[08:03] <Dapperguy> daemons
[08:03] <Socket7`> if i try to compile something with GCC and GCC says stdio.h stdlib.h sys/io.h unistd.h string.h are missing. What do I do to obtain them so i can compile this damn code?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: as I said, depends which daemon
[08:03] <dli> Dapperguy, /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc?.d ( links)
[08:03] <garryF> sounds like you need build-essentials
[08:03] <Amaranth> daaku: holy crap running in vmware it's only using 89MB
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: for instance the ssh daemon is /etc/init.d/ssh
[08:04] <Dapperguy> i have no init.d directory
[08:04] <Dapperguy> under /etc
[08:04] <daaku> Amaranth: damn. ok, i'm convinced, time to make use of the spare partition
[08:04] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: Wow you broke something. :/
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: you must have or your ubuntu wouldn't be running
[08:04] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:04] <yoshiznit123> xarq, like ubuntu from scratch?
[08:04] <daaku> Amaranth: maybe using the installer will fix my lag issue too
[08:05] <Dapperguy> Amaranth, yeah ive ben fuqn with this box for awhile
[08:05] <xarq> yoshiznit123: yes, is that a site or web page or something?
[08:05] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, well its running, connected via putty
[08:05] <dli> Socket7`, install build-essential
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: don't try rebooting without /etc/init.d then :)
[08:05] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, ssh
[08:05] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, already have
[08:05] <thoreauputic> *cough*
[08:06] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, works finwe
[08:06] <yoshiznit123> xarq, no just made it up :-). i tried doing something like that for debian once. bootstrapping dpkg and apt is pretty hard. of course, you can just recompile packages incrementally
[08:06] <Dapperguy> fine
[08:06] <yoshiznit123> xarq, if you really want a completely custom system, you might want to look at lfs
[08:07] <garryF> I could never do a an lfs with my attention span being that of a dead gnat.
[08:07] <xarq> yoshiznit123: well, the problem is I would want to have an ubuntu system when I finished building it
[08:08] <wastrel> putty is a windows ssh program
[08:08] <Dapperguy> i thik its automatically replaced when you install another package
[08:09] <yoshiznit123> xarq, yea... i haven't found any documents about it, but i've been thinking for a while of doing something like that. the problem with compiling everything is that if you want a *true* ubuntu system, you would have to compile debs and then install them
[08:09] <Dapperguy> so init.d is the msconfig of ubuntu?
[08:09] <Amaranth> something like that, yeah
[08:09] <nickrud> garryF, cut and paste, cut and paste. what more is there?
[08:10] <yoshiznit123> so i guess you could start with ubuntu-minimal and build-essential, and recompile each package in it and install it over. not really as cool as lfs though :-)
[08:10] <dli> Dapperguy, we don't know msconfig :)
[08:10] <nickrud> except googling what's not obvious?
[08:10] <Dapperguy> well where do i config what starts and doen't?
[08:10] <Dapperguy> *doesn't
[08:10] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: man update-rc.d
[08:10] <dli> Dapperguy, by GUI, System -> Admin -> Services
[08:10] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: or System -> Administration -> Services
[08:11] <Dapperguy> Amaranth, so rc.d is for daemons?
[08:11] <dli> Dapperguy, however, it's rarely needed for you to interfare manually, simply install/remove packages to suit your needs
[08:11] <garryF> nickrud My eyes tend to skip lines and misread them, and well it just runs down to my incapability of reliably following clear instructions or noticing that I've skipped a line or two down.
[08:12] <nickrud> Dapperguy, install sysv-rc-c0onf
[08:12] <nickrud> garryF, that is the bane of irc
[08:12] <Dapperguy> nickrud, wat is that?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: thanks
[08:13] <Dapperguy> i just connect to ubuntu via openssh and use command line
[08:13] <nickrud> Dapperguy, a very useful tool for controlling what services are running on your machine.
[08:13] <garryF> !ubotu
[08:13] <Amaranth> Dapperguy: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:13] <Amaranth> garryF: ubotu died and went to bot heaven
[08:13] <Dapperguy> Amaranth, im already connected via putty
[08:13] <jason> how can i use steam on linux
[08:13] <garryF> Amaranth Yeah, I have been waiting for his second coming.
[08:14] <Amaranth> jason: cedega
[08:14] <nickrud> soop, who's gonna ping cafugo, and tell him his bot is dead? not me
[08:14] <Dapperguy> whats a good command line utility for services, similar to midnight commander, something i can run vga gui from command line
[08:15] <dli> nickrud, you don't have a backup bot?
[08:16] <garryF> nickrud Somehow I got that wizard of odd song in my head. Ping dong, the bot is dead, the bot is dead, please fix the bot ...
[08:16] <Dapperguy> whats that blue screen erfered to vga gui?
[08:16] <Dapperguy> *referred
[08:16] <Dapperguy> like mc
[08:17] <nickrud> garryF, get a better player, for your sanity :)
[08:17] <wastrel> ncurses?
[08:17] <garryF> nickrud LoL
[08:17] <Dapperguy> be cool if they made a vga mode wm
[08:18] <nickrud> I hate running a box as myself, sudo is evil
[08:18] <nickrud> or, sudo reports me :)
[08:19] <wastrel> what's steam?
[08:19] <nickrud> hot water
[08:19] <garryF> If I had a penny for every time I remembered to use sudo after I got a permissions denied error, Bill gates would be calling me to borrow money.
[08:19] <wastrel> half my bash history is sudo !! i'm sure
[08:20] <wastrel> well not half but half my sudo calls maybe
[08:20] <nickrud> jason, we
[08:20] <Bot_Builder> yeah, I think nautilus should be able to do things by popping up the sudo gui box thing
[08:20] <nickrud> eh, bad joke anyway
[08:20] <garryF> Steam is a login service used to access certain online games if I recall.
[08:20] <jason> nickrud, what
[08:20] <Stefano145> hello .. I havbe a problem with azureus on ubuntu dapper 6.06 with latest updates ... can anybody try to help me?
[08:20] <Bot_Builder> garryF - notably half life 2
[08:21] <dli> steam http://www.steampowered.com
[08:21] <nickrud> jason, bad joke
[08:21] <garryF> Bot_Builder Yep, that's the one.
[08:21] <jason> ...............oh
[08:21] <jcat> Morning everyone.
[08:21] <Dapperguy> the blue screen..i sthat called vga gui or vga mode ?
[08:21] <nickrud> jason, I have a twisted mind, ignore my useless musings
[08:21] <Stefano145> can anybody help me with my azureus?
[08:21] <jason> nickrud, can doo buddy
[08:23] <nickrud> jason, assuming you're the same jason, did that fstab thing we did survive a reboot?
[08:23] <jcat> I installed ubuntu for the first time tonight. Anyone have any suggestions for me?
[08:24] <jason> nickrud, yes it did thank you very very
[08:24] <jason> much
[08:24] <Stefano145> HELP
[08:24] <nickrud> jcat, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <wastrel> jcat:  install msttcorefonts
[08:25] <jason> nickrud, im haveing such a great time with linux i think im jstu going to remove winodws all together and just run linux
[08:25] <wastrel> jcat:  more generally, enable universe & multiverse in synaptic :] 
[08:25] <Stefano145> anybody uses azureus?
[08:25] <wastrel> what's azureus?  it's either a music player or a p2p client
[08:25] <nickrud> jason, be reasonable, you're gonna need windows for games. Don't let these channel rats convince you otherwise
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: no, nobody ever uses it :)
[08:26] <Stefano145> thank you very much :S
[08:26] <jason> well i was going to install wine or something and use that for games
[08:26] <Shadow_Warrior_0> I am trying to get into ubuntu and it won't take my access codes
[08:26] <jason> nickrud, haha but im having trouble with that already
[08:26] <nickrud> jason, sure, But keep that partition for the evil, good things
[08:26] <Stefano145> so ... what bittorrent client do you suggest for me?
[08:27] <Dapperguy> if i wanted to return ALL dapper files to 6.06, just like it was when I installed, how do i do that?
[08:27] <Shadow_Warrior_0> bitcomet
[08:27] <jcat> Jason: I have a friend who keeps a win install only for gaming. It works well for him.
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: I was kidding - azureus is fine
[08:27] <Stefano145> because azureus stop all others internbet activities and I have to logout e re-login
[08:27] <Dapperguy> kinda like a reinstall from command line
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: misconfigured?
[08:27] <jason> yeah but i want to be cool and be liek uber linux man and just use linux
[08:27] <Stefano145> I don't think that
[08:27] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: it works better with sun java
[08:27] <Stefano145> on windows I don't have these problems and it was configured as there
[08:28] <Dapperguy> a sytem retore
[08:28] <garryF> Uber Unix man, sneaks out of bed at night to run kde or gnome.
[08:28] <Dapperguy> how do i do a complete system restore in dapper
[08:28] <jcat> Jason: Nice. Although it's always fun to laugh at windows.
[08:28] <jcat> Hee.
[08:28] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: I use azureus here without problems on dapper
[08:28] <jason> jcat, haha yeah
[08:28] <Stefano145> perhaps it's the j2re or j2sdk thre problem ...
[08:29] <garryF> jcat Computers are like an air conditioner. When you open windows it stops working.
[08:29] <jason> maybe il just shrink the wndows partion to nothing
[08:29] <Dial_tone> is there a gnome macro command applet
[08:29] <jcat> Last night I managed to screw up windows pretty bad. My shell ate itself.
[08:29] <Dapperguy> thats a hardcore question......a system restore by command line..anyone/
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: probably - did you run  sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[08:29] <garryF> Like Pizza the Hutt?
[08:29] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: can you help me to find my problem, please?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: see above
[08:30] <NickGarvey> garryF: funny movie
[08:30] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: no, i didn't run that
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: have you installed sun java ?
[08:30] <jcat> I was able to fix it though. Right now, I'm learning about linux, so this is mostly for fun.
[08:30] <Stefano145> thoreauputic. yes, of course
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: then run the command and choose it
[08:30] <thoreauputic>  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:30] <nickrud> Dapperguy, ask crimsun , maybe seveas, if you get no better help. They probably can point you at the right people for that issue
[08:31] <Dapperguy> nickrud, thanks
[08:31] <Stefano145> thoreauoputic:       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[08:31] <Stefano145>       2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[08:31] <Stefano145> *+    3        /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java
[08:31] <Stefano145>       4        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[08:31] <Stefano145>       5        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[08:31] <Stefano145> excuse me .. ishould use pastebin
[08:31] <nickrud> Dapperguy, that's not an easy question
[08:31] <Dapperguy> crimsun, do you know how to do a complete dapper erstore by command line?
[08:31] <thoreauputic> choose 5 and don't paste :)
[08:32] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: do you say to me?
[08:32] <thoreauputic> yes
[08:32] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: ok. thank you
[08:32] <Stefano145> now i'm going to try azureus again
[08:33] <Hobbsee> Stefano145: please dont paste in here.
[08:33] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: make sure you have your port 6881 open and check for nat
[08:33] <garryF> It makes our monitors all sticky.
[08:34] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: I don't use thast port. I choose another one which is open in NAT and in ubuntu's firewall too
[08:34] <nickrud> garryF, what, syrup?
[08:34] <Dapperguy> nickrud, is there a way to check for all system files, kinda like a sfc for windows?
[08:34] <garryF> nickrud pasting.
[08:34] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: OK - whatever works for you
[08:34] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: I did this, because the samll ports (1-30000) stopped my internet connection
[08:35] <nickrud> Dapperguy, yes, there is. I just don't know it.
[08:35] <Dapperguy> nickrud, kewl:p
[08:35] <garryF> chkfs?
[08:35] <MystaMax> anyone around?
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: you realise that ubuntu comes with a bittorrent client, right? The one that you can open from torrent URLs in firefox
[08:36] <garryF> nope
[08:36] <nickrud> MystaMax, nah, this channel is -260 right now
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: pretty basic compared to azureus though
[08:36] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: thank you very much. I have another problem, but with apt-get, apkg and synaptic too. every time I do an install, removbe ir update I become an advise "clvm impossible to isntall or to complete operation, i don't know exactly"
[08:36] <vanberge> i wonder: can anybody recommend a web dev/design tool?  NVU or Screem i am looking at.  Thnks in advance!  :-)
[08:36] <squiggly> use abc, azeurus is bloated like O_O
[08:36] <jcat> I like the different desktop views.
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: that's a bit vague and confusing...
[08:37] <garryF> Ubuntu has one called Quanta Plus. I'm not sure if it's installed by default, but it looked pretty good.
[08:37] <squiggly> written in my home language Python too! :)
[08:37] <xarq> vanberge: emacs/expect and Lisp on Lines is what I use
[08:37] <Stefano145> thoreauputi: I installed 2 .config packages and this was gone in dependencies, biut noiw I can't install it, I can't remove it, I can't update i and I can't configure it
[08:38] <xarq> er, I mean emacs and expect
[08:38] <MystaMax> I'm trying to change the group permissions of a drive I just mounted, but cannot.  if i do sudo chgrp 'groupname' 'file' I get an error stating Operation not Permitted? Why is that?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: sorry, i don't understand what you are trying to say
[08:38] <dli> Stefano145, pastebin the error messages
[08:38] <xarq> MystaMax: maybe the drive is read-only
[08:38] <dli> Stefano145, with commands
[08:39] <nickrud> Stefano145, I second thoreauputic that is about as useless a help requests gets, just what is your end goal?
[08:39] <MystaMax> xarg, its a hard drive
[08:39] <xarq> MystaMax: yes
[08:40] <Dapperguy> heres some serious food for thought: ...how come the ubuntu community doesnt backup and tar their working and optimized os for multimedia and restricted packages and tar it so we can just downlaod it and restore it, reboot voila!..?
[08:40] <dli> MystaMax, is it mounted ro? what's the fs?
[08:40] <MystaMax> xarq,  i'm not understanding what you are saying. Its formatted as fat32.
[08:40] <nickrud> Stefano145, getting rid of the slang, just what is it do you want to do?
[08:40] <xarq> MystaMax: I'm saying it could be mounted read-only
[08:40] <Subvertir> How can I bind my windows key to the gnome applications menu...?
[08:40] <nickrud> Dapperguy, legal issues, and hands off on them
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: because it's illegal ?
[08:41] <Stefano145> nickrud: I done a pastebin . I paste here the link. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16424. sorry but my computer runs in italian. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16424
[08:41] <MystaMax> dli, its fat32. This is what I get when I run fstab: /dev/sda5 on /media/sda5 type vfat (rw)
[08:41] <Subvertir> I've used ntfs write support before
[08:41] <Dapperguy> thoreauputic, but if i asked you "off the record" it would be legit
[08:41] <Dapperguy> as in peer to peer
[08:41] <dli> MystaMax, can you write to the partition? at least as root?
[08:42] <Stefano145> nickrud: have you understood the paste?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Dapperguy: this is off-topic for #ubuntu
[08:42] <Dapperguy> okay then...:P
[08:42] <MystaMax> dli, i just ran sudo cp 'an  mp3 file' '/media/sda5' and that worked
[08:43] <nickrud> Stefano145, try  LANG="C" <the command that got you that output>    that is problably something lis mono lingual guy can read :)
[08:44] <InfoxicatingLady> s/serer/server
[08:44] <dli> MystaMax, as user now?
[08:44] <higen> hmm.. a quick question.. in windows there are like.. id3tag editor in every program i can imagine.. and its rather easy to edit an mp3s tag data.. which program is recommended for such opperation in linux..?
[08:44] <higen> does rythembox got such?
[08:44] <Lord-ChewY> im getting this error when runing quake4-demo
[08:44] <Lord-ChewY> Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[08:44] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: do you have nameservers IPs in /etc/resolv.conf   ?
[08:44] <Lord-ChewY> 3d accel works, cause i can play ut2k4
[08:45] <nickrud> higen, easytag
[08:45] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : thats a good question... *is a newb to linux*
[08:45] <MystaMax> dli, I'm logged in as the user I created when building this computer, and then I ran that previous command @ the terminal
[08:45] <guard2> anyone know what that error mean (zterm:5322): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097
[08:45] <higen> nickrud: ok.. and it supports editing over smb?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> or tagtool
[08:45] <higen> smb/gnome vfs
[08:45] <MystaMax> dli, I'm not sure I fully understand your last question.
[08:45] <nickrud> higen, that I have no idea about, your network is yours
[08:45] <dli> MystaMax, can you creat a file in that partition, as a user
[08:46] <Stefano145> thoreauputic azureus quit the port 80. internet doesn't go, but irc yes
[08:46] <higen> as long as its gnome compliant it should be
[08:46] <Dapperguy> whats the ubuntu newsgroup?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: you should have your ISPs nameserver Ips in /etc/resolv.conf  - " cat /etc/resolv.conf" in a terminal ( without quotes)
[08:46] <Stefano145> nickrud: i haven't understood what do you want
[08:46] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : I do know that I have to manually input the DNS server numbers everytime I boot up. is there a way to make the numbers stay?
[08:46] <MystaMax> dli, if I run touch 'atestfile', I get permission denied error
[08:46] <thoreauputic> Stefano145: since when does azureus use port 80 ??
[08:46] <Lord-ChewY> what is the command to update GLX info
[08:46] <Lord-ChewY> after installing a driver
[08:47] <Stefano145> no .. bot internet (firefox and TB) doesn't go, but irc chat yes
[08:47] <dli> MystaMax, what about cp ?
[08:47] <guard2> (zterm:5322): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097
[08:47] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : it comes up with the IP for the DSL modem
[08:47] <nickrud> Stefano145, LANG='C'  apt-get upgrade  looking back
[08:47] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: did you use the gnome networking configuration tool?
[08:47] <garryF> If you mean you want to be able to access this partition without having to use sudo or the like a line like this in /etc/fstab did the trick for me ... /dev/sda1 /mnt/Sata1 ntfs uid=1000,umask=000,ro 0 0
[08:48] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : I'm gonna say no, because Im sure if I had, I would know what that means
[08:48] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: I suggest you run  gksudo '/etc/resolv.conf' and input the IPs ( nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx whatever)
[08:48] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady:  ystem - Administration - Networking  ( easier)
[08:49] <nickrud> Stefano145, that should give you an english output, I hope
[08:49] <MystaMax> dli, if I try and copy w/o sudo, I recieve an error stating, "cp: cannot create regular file `/media/sda5/atestfile': Permission denied
[08:49] <Stefano145> thoreauputic: internet goes very slow or not too if i start azureus
[08:49] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : bash:  /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied
[08:49] <squiggly> Stefano145: don't use azeurus
[08:49] <thoreauputic> bah System -Administration - Networking <-- InfoxicatingLady
[08:49] <Stefano145> nickrud: here you are :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16425
[08:49] <squiggly> Stefano145: use ABC, azeurus is bloated
[08:49] <Stefano145> squiggly: and what shall I use?
[08:49] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: gksudo gedit ( then open the file)
[08:50] <patrick_king> does this work for anybody  sudo apt-get install wormux
[08:50] <dli> MystaMax, so, a permission problem, but gnome-volume-manager should have mounted it as the same user
[08:50] <squiggly> http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
[08:50] <squiggly> Stefano145: http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
[08:50] <Stefano145> squiggly: I have problem to install other bittorrent clients which are not in the repositories
[08:50] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: the other way is easier though :)
[08:50] <bulltitan> hi
[08:50] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : yeah. I know. but it keeps 'dropping' them, if that makes sense. as in, before I connected to this server, it was there, but now its gone
[08:50] <dli> MystaMax, make sure you are a member of plugdev , run " groups "
[08:50] <MystaMax> dli, even if I mounted it from the terminal?
[08:50] <squiggly> stefano145: you shouldn't have any problems
[08:50] <MystaMax> group
[08:50] <bulltitan> is there any way to start the desklets on boot?
[08:51] <dli> MystaMax, I thought gnome-volume-manager mounted it for you , since you mentioned /media
[08:51] <bulltitan> or maybe an independent desklet not all gdesklets?
[08:51] <setekh> hello
[08:51] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: 'tis a mystery - if you edit that file it should stay there afafik
[08:51] <thoreauputic> *afaik
[08:51] <Stefano145> squiggly: it doesn't have a graphical intenface i think, but i can't install it anywhere
[08:51] <dli> MystaMax, then, you should mount manually, with option uid=< MystaMax >
[08:51] <MystaMax> dli, no I mounted it there myself, via the terminal. I am a member of plugdev
[08:51] <setekh> is this a suitable channel to ask for help in installing ubuntu?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> setekh: sure
[08:51] <Stefano145> nickrud: have you found anything interesting?
[08:51] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : thats what I thought too. but they keep disappearing. and since I'm the only one that uses this machine... *shrugs*
[08:52] <bulltitan> have any of you played with gdesklet yet?
[08:52] <squiggly> compile it from source stefano145
[08:52] <setekh> well i have downloaded the file and have a clean HDD to install it on
[08:52] <setekh> do i have to make a boot cd to install it?
[08:52] <Stefano145> squiggly: that's the problem
[08:52] <dli> MystaMax, if you want to mount it manually, edit your /etc/fstab , put noauto,uid= options there
[08:52] <hyphenated> setekh: yeah
[08:52] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: the only thing I can think of is that you might have the resolvconf package installed and it's playing with your settings
[08:52] <patrick_king> does this work for anybody  sudo apt-get install wormux, i can seem to get the libs and stuff but not the wormux part
[08:52] <squiggly> stefano145: makedist.bat?
[08:53] <Stefano145> squiggly: what doi you mean?
[08:53] <setekh> or can i use daemon tools and virtual mount it?
[08:53] <garryF> Yes setekh.
[08:53] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : and how do I fix that? (since I can't access any websites to actually read it myself)?
[08:53] <squiggly> stefano145: oh sorry, forgot it was ubuntu
[08:53] <MystaMax> dli, so whenever I mount, I'll typically have to visist my /etc/fstab file?
[08:53] <hyphenated> setekh: it's not just a game or anything, it's a completely different operating system
[08:53] <dli> MystaMax, however, you can test it now, " sudo mount -oremount,uid=< MystaMax >,rw /media/blah "
[08:54] <garryF> setekh: You will need to use something like nero or another iso handling program to burn the iso image to a cd to make the bootable cd.
[08:54] <hyphenated> setekh: so you can't run it inside of windows (you run it _instead_ of windows). and that rules out daemon tools etc
[08:54] <squiggly> stefano145: weird, the developers of abc didn't create a makefile for linux
[08:54] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: you've tried both methods? Editing and using the networking tool as I suggested?
[08:54] <Stefano145> squiggly: tha problem is: no configure file, no make file and no makeinstall file
[08:54] <Hobbsee> InfoxicatingLady: do it!  :P
[08:54] <bulltitan> k3b can do it genomebaker too i think
[08:54] <Stefano145> squiggly: I saw that ...
[08:54] <bulltitan> so no news about how to start gdesklets on boot :(
[08:54] <nickrud> Stefano145, ok, I have a vague idea about that: start with sudo apt-get -f install in a terminal: it may not be the fix, but always do that first
[08:54] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : it won't let me edit.. keeps coming up permission denied. and the networking is how I know the numbers keep disappearing
[08:54] <dli> MystaMax, if it's hard drive (non-removable), make it auto in fstab, if removable, leave it to gnome-volume-manager (and remove all lines about it from fstab)
[08:55] <InfoxicatingLady> Hobbsee : its *really* hard to do a degree with no computer, though :/
[08:55] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady:   >>> gksudo gedit     then  File Open  /etc/resolv.conf
[08:55] <Hobbsee> InfoxicatingLady: hehe...that's a point
[08:55] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: you *do*have sudo rights, right?
[08:55] <Stefano145> nickrud: it has trha same problem with same output
[08:56] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : one would presume so... it is my machine, i did the setup, etc, and I'm the only one that uses it
[08:56] <thoreauputic> OK freenode is shutting down again
[08:56] <squiggly> is not
[08:56] <thoreauputic> or probably anyway
[08:56] <squiggly> just pm him repeatedly
[08:56] <nickrud> Stefano145, this has to do with some relatively esoteric hard disk usage.
[08:56] <pc22> any other ftpserver guide than this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[08:56] <dli> Infecto, I got 102 degree by using computer and caught cold
[08:56] <hoopercc> I'm thinking of setting up a linux box tonight with the CarPC parts I decided to not put in my car. Someone give me a good reason why I should use ubuntu instead of my longtime favorite slackware
[08:56] <Stefano145> nickrud: and now?
[08:57] <squiggly> you have no reason to hoopercc
[08:57] <bulltitan> please i know my question might be dumb but still i need to know or just point me in the right FAQ
[08:57] <garryF> Carberators are debian based?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: if you run gksudo gedit  it should ask for your password - then you will have permission to edit the file
[08:58] <hoopercc> Hmm
[08:58] <dli> bulltitan, I tried gdesklets once, got disgusted
[08:58] <hoopercc> Well at least you're honest
[08:58] <hoopercc> I just wanted to try out something new, looking over my options
[08:58] <bulltitan> :P not what i was waitin for but honest :P
[08:58] <nickrud> Stefano145, there's two ways to go about this: look for a relevant bug on http://launchpad.net , or looking at /var/lib/dpkg/info/clvm.postinst and see why it's failing
[08:59] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : still not working. "Authentication rejected, reason: none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication rejected"
[08:59] <MystaMax> dli, thanks for the guidance, although I have another ubuntu-server which will not have a GUI, your help put me in the right direction!
[08:59] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: what does  ls -l ~/.Xauthority   say ?
[09:00] <fatlip> whats the best virtualization software? vmware or parallels?
[09:00] <dli> MystaMax, next time, make your own mount points in /mnt or whatever, but not in /media
[09:00] <Stefano145> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16426
[09:00] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: or try   sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[09:00] <dli> fatlip, xen
[09:00] <nickrud> Stefano145, I say that because I have no real relevant with the lvm stuff
[09:00] <fatlip> xen? is it free?
[09:00] <MystaMax> dli, another good tip, can you elaborate why I should so  understand?
[09:01] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : no such file or directory
[09:01] <dli> fatlip, yes, check out this, http://www.howtoforge.com/xen_3.0_ubuntu_dapper_drake
[09:01] <bulltitan> just now i realized that i need to search the forum on how to start "any" app on boot,... yep my question was dumb ;(
[09:01] <Stefano145> nickrud: cant't you understand the posting?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: not possible
[09:01] <fatlip> nice thanks :)
[09:01] <dli> MystaMax, which step?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: try again   ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[09:01] <MystaMax> dli, why i should use /mnt and not /media
[09:01] <InfoxicatingLady> the DNS server numbers are there...
[09:01] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: copy paste it
[09:01] <fatlip> dli, this isnt all in one file?
[09:01] <nickrud> Stefano145, is that the postinstall stuff?
[09:02] <fatlip> ie: i have to repartition my driives?
[09:02] <dli> MystaMax, /media should be handled by gnome-volume-manager on fly
[09:02] <Stefano145> nickrud: the content of the filke you have requested....
[09:02] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: in resolv.conf ?
[09:02] <garryF> Media implies removable items like cdrom disks etc. /mnt is traditionally for non-removable items such as hard drives except they get removed and tossed out the window when they die.
[09:03] <nickrud> Stefano145, ah, if you were a wrestler, you've pinned me. A sec, but no promises
[09:03] <dli> fatlip, I don't know, I don't run xen
[09:03] <fatlip> lol okay
[09:03] <MystaMax> dli, makes sense. A folder should already be created for the device I'm about to mount in /mnt as well. correct.
[09:03] <bulltitan> see you later thanks for the tip dli
[09:03] <MystaMax> ??
[09:03] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic : yeah. its coming up now
[09:03] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: then I don't know what your problem is
[09:03] <garryF> yep
[09:03] <InfoxicatingLady> thoreauputic :-rw-------  1 tanya tanya 117 2006-06-24 14:01 /home/tanya/.Xauthority
[09:04] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: OK that looks fine
[09:04] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: I don't see why gksudo gedit is failing
[09:04] <InfoxicatingLady> so why the F*** does it keep dropping the numbers?
[09:04] <Stefano145> nickrud: why shall I be a wrestler?
[09:05] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: does  dpkg -l resolvconf  give you an output starting with " ii "  ?
[09:06] <InfoxicatingLady> is taht meant to be resolv.conf ?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> no
[09:06] <nickrud> Stefano145, I am relatively ignorant about lvm; I'm willing to look at why that script may fail.
[09:06] <thoreauputic> it's a pckage
[09:06] <thoreauputic> *package
[09:06] <nickrud> Stefano145, we'll see
[09:06] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: I'm checking if the package is installed
[09:06] <Stefano145> nickrud: thank you
[09:07] <Stefano145> anybody could help me about that package please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16426
[09:07] <thoreauputic> InfoxicatingLady: there was a bug a while backk where resolvconf was overwriting dns entries
[09:10] <Stefano145> anybody could help me?
[09:11] <compengi> what does uptime shows
[09:12] <higen> how long your computer have been running since reboot
[09:12] <compengi> it's not
[09:13] <higen> does it lie?
[09:13] <compengi> lol
[09:13] <compengi> it shows 10h
[09:13] <compengi> but my pc is on 2-3h
[09:13] <higen> maybe you have lost controll over your pc... ITS ALIVE!!
[09:14] <thoreauputic> compengi: did you suspend during that time?
[09:14] <compengi> no really why is that
[09:14] <Hobbsee> stupid thing.
[09:14] <Eleaf> hi
[09:14] <Eleaf> hmm..
[09:14] <compengi> thoreauputic, suspend what
[09:14] <thoreauputic> compengi: your computer ( put it to sleep )
[09:15] <compengi> no
[09:15] <compengi> i turned it off completely
[09:15] <Eleaf> lol
[09:15] <compengi> weird
[09:16] <compengi>  10:16:02 up 51 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.75, 0.24, 0.17
[09:16] <compengi> where is my up here
[09:17] <thoreauputic> hahah
[09:17] <compengi> 10h or 51min
[09:17] <Hit3k> 51 mins
[09:17] <compengi> and the 10h
[09:17] <thoreauputic>  up 51 min
[09:17] <Hit3k> current time
[09:17] <Stefano145> anybdy can't help me?
[09:17] <compengi> roflmao
[09:17] <compengi> i'm dump
[09:18] <compengi> and why is there 2 users
[09:18] <compengi> i always see that
[09:18] <thoreauputic> compengi: one for the session (gdm) one for your terminal
[09:18] <dli> compengi, type " who "
[09:18] <Hit3k>  17:18:30 up  5:50,  3 users,  load average: 0.20, 0.32, 0.54
[09:18] <compengi> 2 users
[09:19] <thoreauputic> compengi: yup
[09:19] <Hit3k> I have 3
[09:19] <hoopercc>  3:41AM  up 278 days, 14:14, 1 user, load averages: 1.01, 1.01, 1.00
[09:19] <compengi> lol
[09:19] <compengi> 278 days
[09:19] <thoreauputic> hoopercc: show off :)
[09:19] <Hit3k> thats not good
[09:19] <hoopercc> lol
[09:19] <hoopercc> I cheated, that's my BSD server
[09:19] <dli> hoopercc, which bsd?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> hoopercc: heh
[09:19] <hoopercc> FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE
[09:20] <dli> hoopercc, the current is 6.1
[09:20] <compengi> hoopercc, is your pc a server
[09:20] <Hit3k> oh what the hell
[09:20] <Hit3k> I just killed my sudo session
[09:20] <hoopercc> dli: I know, but 6.x wasn't even around when I installed it, and 4.x series was stable and 5.x was dev
[09:20] <hoopercc> compengi: Nope
[09:20] <compengi> you distribute shells
[09:20] <hoopercc> Nope
[09:21] <compengi> you should lol
[09:21] <hoopercc> lol
[09:21] <hoopercc> 48538 mysql     63   0 73444K 45204K CPU2   2 3081.8 99.02% 99.02% mysqld
[09:21] <thoreauputic> She sells seae shells by the sea shore ...
[09:21] <dli> hoopercc, will ubuntu make freebsd also? like debian/kFreeBSD?
[09:21] <hoopercc> 99% CPU :(
[09:21] <hoopercc> Huh? I don't know what ubuntu will do, lol
[09:21] <hoopercc> I haven't even used ubuntu yet
[09:22] <hoopercc> I have about 5 minutes before I start this install
[09:22] <dli> hoopercc, neither do I , I use debian/gentoo, but my girlfriend uses ubuntu
[09:24] <hoopercc> When I do run Linux, I normally stick with Slackware, but I wanted to try something new
[09:25] <hoopercc> And the download is done, time to burn it ^_^
[09:28] <mikere> hoopercc: hehe, ubuntu and slack are very different distros
[09:29] <Stefano145> hoopercc: if you wanbt a distro similar to slackware try gentoo :D
[09:29] <dli> Stefano145, gentoo is not similar to slackware :( slackware is not source based
[09:30] <Stefano145> dli: it's ok, you have right, but gentoo is +/- the same difficult as slackware
[09:30] <Stefano145> dli: perhaps he find him better with a distro not very easy :D
[09:32] <docta_v> ubuntu > *
[09:32] <dli> Stefano145, gentoo handles deps gracefully by itself, unlike slackware, indeed, gentoo is easier than ubuntu after installation
[09:32] <dragoon> no, gentoo > *
[09:32] <docta_v> i don't like having to wait 5 hours to install a single package
[09:32] <dragoon> docta_v: it depends what package and what hardware you have
[09:32] <Stefano145> dli: getoo is fantastick, if I could try it .. unfunertly the grub has many problems on my VMWARE virtual machine
[09:33] <docta_v> gentoo is fine if you don't mind spending all your free time tweaking your system
[09:33] <dragoon> docta_v: have you ever used gentoo ?
[09:33] <docta_v> ubuntu lets me spend my time on other stuff
[09:33] <docta_v> yes
[09:33] <hoopercc> Stefano145: I've tried Gentoo before (not anytime recently though)
[09:33] <docta_v> i like gentoo a lot, especially portage
[09:33] <Stefano145> hoopercc: ok, sorry
[09:33] <dragoon> gentoo lets me spend time on other stuff aswell
[09:33] <hoopercc> Oh no, don't be, thank you :)
[09:34] <docta_v> ubuntu is just that much easier to deal with
[09:34] <dragoon> i like the flexability of gentoo
[09:34] <docta_v> and i don't think there's a big difference in terms of packages
[09:34] <dli> docta_v, not really, if you read questions in this channel
[09:34] <hoopercc> I basically want a clean (and nice looking) OS right after install
[09:34] <Stefano145> docta_v .. i think gentoo is more easier than suse or mandriva too ... because it is gnome based, but it is very fast
[09:34] <hoopercc> So I can spend time on other more productive things
[09:34] <Stefano145> it's better, much better
[09:34] <docta_v> dli: you think the noobs in here asking questions would have an easier time with gentoo? that's laughable
[09:35] <dli> hoopercc, do stage1 with gentoo, clean :)
[09:35] <hoopercc> But I will be right back, I have to take the CD rom drive out of this computer
[09:35] <gdb> gentoo is rice and gentoo is for masochists
[09:35] <gdb> ubuntu gives you what you're looking for, hoopercc
[09:35] <hoopercc> Amazingly I don't have an extra one
[09:35] <gdb> "a clean (and nice looking) OS right after install"
[09:35] <hoopercc> Thanks gdb, be right back, I'll have booted into the install by the time I'm back :P
[09:35] <Stefano145> gdb: not always .. just the installation iss long, burt not complicated
[09:35] <gdb> hoopercc: and you can chat here while it's running :-)
[09:36] <docta_v> what gentoo needs is a noob mode...where the install is very easy and all the packages pull pre-built by default
[09:36] <hoopercc> :-)
[09:36] <docta_v> but that would violate the gentoo philosophy so it probably won't happen
[09:36] <dli> docta_v, stage4
[09:36] <dragoon> heh
[09:36] <dragoon> that exists?
[09:36] <Stefano145> dli: it doesn't exist :D
[09:37] <Stefano145> dli: the easiest id stege3+GRP
[09:37] <xarq> building packages isn't a big deal with a screaming fast desktop (which I don't have  ;))
[09:37] <dli> Stefano145, you can make it yourself, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Custom_Stage4
[09:37] <dragoon> hehe, and i do
[09:38] <dragoon> interesting dli
[09:38] <dli> dragoon, I build my liveusb with gentoo
[09:38] <docta_v> xarq: still takes forever for crap like openoffice, xorg, etc.
[09:39] <alth> That was strange.
[09:39] <dli> docta_v, xorg is like 2 hours, openoffice/mozilla/koffice all have -bin
[09:40] <xarq> docta_v: not on an amd fx 2 4400
[09:40] <dragoon> yea... sure 2 hours for xorg ')
[09:41] <dli> xarq, when we all run boxes with 100+ cores, the price for building your own will be marginal
[09:43] <xarq> oh, there's a 5000x2 now, nice...
[09:44] <dli> xarq, conroe is arriving
[09:54] <Sjoerd_> is there some way to create symlinks using winscp?
[09:55] <tic> any Metacity users around? Is there a way to switch to the previously visited workspace?
[09:56] <EdgyEft> tic: only by remembering what it was and switching to it
[09:57] <jalynne> hi guys any site that can help me in the implementation of vlan
[09:58] <tic> EdgyEft, that doesn't cut it. :) In BeOS, Cmd- will take you to the last workspace. *extremely* useful.
[09:59] <EdgyEft> tic: yeah, quite useful but metacity doesn't have that
[09:59] <tic> EdgyEft, suckyness. d'you know how to hook into the workspace-activation code from outside of metacity?
[10:02] <EdgyEft> tic: no I don't
[10:03] <malv> how does Opera compare to Firefox?
[10:03] <EdgyEft> malv: same way as xchat compares to konversation
[10:03] <malv> I've never used konversation
[10:04] <Lynoure> jalynne: there are too many resources to give, for that wide question. Many of them not ubuntu specific in any way. Can you rephrase your question?
[10:04] <Sjoerd_> malv: Firefox is more basic, but you can use plugins for everything you need. Opera got all those plugins build in :)
[10:05] <malv> in terms of speed?
[10:05] <Sjoerd_> malv: In terms of being more basic
[10:06] <Sjoerd_> malv: I like firefox best but you really should try both if you want to know which one YOU like best.
[10:06] <Sjoerd_> My question - How do I install php5 on ubuntu, I already did apt-get install php5 but it doesn't send my pages as html to clients yet.
[10:07] <Flannel> !tell Sjoerd_ about LAMP
[10:07] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: that page will get you all setup
[10:07] <Sjoerd_> What is LAMP? Why do I want it if I only need php5?
[10:07] <Flannel> er
[10:07] <Flannel> heh
[10:08] <Flannel> hold on.  Let me get you the link
[10:08] <Amaranth> !botsnack
[10:08] <Flannel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Flannel: ubotu is on extended leave :(
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack
[10:08] <Amaranth> :(
[10:08] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: that one.  Just do the PHP section
[10:08] <thoreauputic> oh ubotu is back from the dead then ?
[10:08] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: Ok thanks I will have a look
[10:08] <Amaranth> !botsnack
[10:08] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:08] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yes
[10:08] <Amaranth> :D
[10:08] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:08] <jalynne> lynoure, Im using 3com 7750 i want to implement vlan my dhcp server is ubuntu works fine my question is were can I find a site that can help me to implement vlan using the dhcp linux server
[10:09] <perrupa> hey, I was wondering if someone could give me a hand with mounting a USB Hard drive. it was mounting automatically but sdb1 isn't showing up in /dev/ anymore
[10:09] <mitrutz> http://www.demostene.evonet.ro linux rulz!
[10:09] <perrupa> Any advice?
[10:09] <delcoyote> hi all! have a question, how to share files ubuntu 6.06 to a ubuntu 6.06 live-cd, need to copy an image from hard drive from one of them
[10:10] <dli> delcoyote, you can use nfs
[10:10] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: Nice page but it really only tells me to do apt-get install php5 -- which I already did..
[10:10] <delcoyote> thanks a million dli ill look for it now
[10:10] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: no, you also need the apache2 php module
[10:11] <dli> delcoyote, nfs to cp files
[10:11] <delcoyote> network file share i guess
[10:11] <delcoyote> ill look at the man right now and thanks dli
[10:11] <perrupa> anyone know why /dev/sdb1 wouldn't be showing up anymore?
[10:13] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version.
[10:13] <xarq> perrupa: because Ubuntu changed it to /dev/sdb2?
[10:13] <untung> hi
[10:13] <Flannel> Hmm.  Wonder why that page doesn't mention it at all.
[10:13] <xarq> perrupa: it does that to a certain device of mine sometimes
[10:13] <perrupa> nah, there's sdc1 though
[10:13] <Ackeubu_> perrupa happy you found youre way over here
[10:13] <Ackeubu_> perrupa ^^
[10:13] <perrupa> ha ha, yeah thanks again
[10:13] <dli> perrupa, I don't understand your question
[10:13] <untung> has anyone tried ubuntu version 6?
[10:13] <iamelite> I am having trouble getting rid of Mesa drivers.
[10:13] <Ackeubu_> untung i am running ubuntu .606
[10:13] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: then you should be fine.  Check to make sure your handler is added (addhandler) and that you've got php.so in mods-enabled
[10:13] <iamelite> to install ATI fglrx
[10:13] <perrupa> well, my usb drive was automatically mounting as sdb1
[10:13] <hoopercc> Back :)
[10:13] <untung> i want to upgrade from version 5.1 to 6.06
[10:14] <Hit3k> could someone give me an example of the split command?
[10:14] <perrupa> but after a dist-upgrade and a reboot it is no longer automounting
[10:14] <perrupa> and sdb1 isn't showing up in /dev/
[10:14] <untung> Ackeubu: how do install it? did u upgrade from 5?
[10:14] <hoopercc> At 15% of the install 8)
[10:14] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: The command a2enmod php5 gives out: module does not exist -- There is no php.so in mods-enabled
[10:14] <Flannel> untung: it's 5.10, not 5.1, and gksudo update-manager should ask you if you want to upgrade, provided youre up to date
[10:14] <Ackeubu_> iamelite  i just got fglrx working today with the right screen resolution
[10:14] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: check in mods-available, make sure you have the module
[10:14] <Ackeubu_> untung no the 5.10 didnt work for my notbook
[10:15] <dli> perrupa, okay, plug in the usb disk, read " dmesg| tail -50 "
[10:15] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: What should the module be called? If it is php.so I don't seem to have it.
[10:15] <untung> Flannel: I have downloaded the cd. how do i upgrade? just put a dics and install?
[10:15] <dli> perrupa, or " dmesg | less ", search for usb-storage messages
[10:15] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: While I have it -- php5 is already the newest version.
[10:15] <Flannel> untung: well, you don't need the disk actually, it can do everything via apt/downloads
[10:16] <dli> perrupa, or " sudo fdisk -l " should list partitions
[10:16] <perrupa> when I run dmesg I get a bunch of fglrx messages :|
[10:16] <perrupa> [17184476.584000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking pcie memory ![17184476.584000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking memory at 0xdb817300 for 1712128 bytes
[10:16] <perrupa> [17184545.112000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* locking memory at 0x08a91000 for 196608 bytes
[10:16] <perrupa> [17184545.116000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking pcie memory ![17184545.116000]  [fglrx:firegl_pcie_lock_pages]  *ERROR* unlocking memory at 0xcd74a5c0 for 196608 bytes
[10:16] <perrupa> c
[10:16] <dli> perrupa, don't paste here
[10:16] <perrupa> that kinda stuff :(
[10:16] <Ackeubu_> iamelite dont you need the mesa to run the ati drivers?
[10:16] <perrupa> oh sorry
[10:16] <Flannel> untung: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[10:16] <untung> Flannel: how do i check the version of my current ubuntu?
[10:16] <Ackeubu_> iamelite no i guess you dont
[10:16] <Seveas> !version
[10:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[10:16] <Seveas> ^-- untung
[10:17] <perrupa> possibly cause I'm using compiz?
[10:17] <Ackeubu_> kompis??
[10:17] <sjoerd> Sjoerd_: I've already asked you this multiple times. But please change your nick as your current one is very very confusing
[10:17] <untung> Seveas: what
[10:17] <Seveas> untung, see what ubotu just said
[10:17] <perrupa> Ackebu: xgl/compiz
[10:17] <iamelite> I fallowed instructions in the forum. For the ATI fglrx drivers. But im not sure where it went wrong, because fglrxinfo Shows me Mesa3D
[10:17] <Ackeubu_> iamelite yeah i had the same issue
[10:18] <DevGet> Hi all! I have problems with initng, when I have logged on in gdm, GNOME stops loading, why?
[10:18] <Ackeubu_> iamelite but you should set driver in xorg.conf to xfgx
[10:18] <dli> perrupa, can you see your partitions (usb), in " sudo fdisk -l " ?
[10:18] <Ackeubu_> iamelite youve done that yet?
[10:18] <Ackeubu_> iamelite what computer do you have?
[10:18] <untung> Seveas: it is still version 5.10
[10:18] <Sjoerd_> sjoerd: I really don't see any reason to change it - I have already explained how you can stop your client from highlightning me.
[10:19] <Ackeubu_> iameliteor what card do you have?
[10:19] <Flannel> untung: gksudo update-manager should ask you about upgrading.
[10:19] <perrupa> dli: no, just sda1, sda2, sda3, and sda4
[10:19] <ddrj> guys help me out here real quick, why is the ubuntu desktop live cd SOOOO SLOW? i downloaded 2 copies (both md5's correct and from the ubntu ftp) and burned both at different speeds and they're both still SLOW. has anyone else experienced this problem?
[10:19] <dli> perrupa, what is sda ?
[10:19] <Seveas> ddrj, live systems run from the cd drive
[10:19] <gdb> ddrj: Because you're running it off a CDROM.
[10:19] <Seveas> that is slow by definition
[10:20] <perrupa> the primary HD in my laptop
[10:20] <sjoerd> Sjoerd_: yeah, apart from the people that use nick completion and send their answer to me instead of you
[10:20] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: On the page you gave me there is a troubleshooting section, what they talk about seem to be related? I tried running a2enmod php5 but it says the module is not available :)
[10:20] <ddrj> right, but it's EXTREMELY slow, i run knoppix and it runs WAY faster and it's also a LIVE CD
[10:20] <perrupa> with an NTFS, FAT32, Ext3 and a swap partition
[10:20] <sjoerd> Sjoerd_: and even if my nick completion doesn't hightlight it, it's still confusing for people
[10:20] <hoopercc> You mean 52X isn't fast? :(
[10:20] <dli> ddrj, speed should be okay, if you have 1GB+ ram
[10:20] <Sjoerd_> sjoerd: Feel free to change nick if you find it annoying.
[10:20] <Ackeubu_> iamelite http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_X1400 this one helped me
[10:20] <jrsims> hey, is there formal support for video acceleration in gnome using my nvidia card?
[10:21] <sjoerd> Sjoerd_: neh, i'll just complain to the freenode staff and see what they think
[10:21] <hoopercc> I have 1GB of RAM and this LiveCD does seem a bit sluggish. But I don't really care, I'm installing to hard drive
[10:21] <Seveas> ddrj, maybe dma got disabled
[10:21] <iamelite> Ackeubu: did you get my mesage
[10:21] <usama> hi all
[10:21] <untung> Flannel: It's starting. Will it erase my data?
[10:21] <dli> perrupa, try, lsusb
[10:21] <sjoerd> Sjoerd_: i've only had this nick for like 5 years so i'm not going to change it :)
[10:21] <Ackeubu_> iamelite maybe not >)
[10:21] <ddrj> guys, i'm telling you, it is really slow, it takes 5 minutes to open up the ubuntu installer on the desktop, Seveas: dma disabled?
[10:21] <jrsims> I can't tell if I have video acceleration on, or if gnome just sucks at repainting the screen. Everything just feels a little choppy.
[10:21] <iamelite> Ackeubu: what command are you sending me messages with
[10:21] <Seveas> ddrj, sudo hdparm -d /dev/cdrom
[10:21] <Sjoerd_> sjoerd: I am called Sjoerd for 20 years so imo I have the right on the name Sjoerd, please hand it over.
[10:22] <Seveas> if that says disabled, try: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[10:22] <sjoerd> Sjoerd_: 26 here, so too bad you loose :)
[10:22] <Ackeubu_> iamelite i just write what you see ?!?!
[10:22] <usama> i am using ubuntu hoary, i have enabled repos in /etc/apt/source.list and do sudo apt-get update but when i apt-cache search mplayer, it can not find anything? can you help me?
[10:22] <untung> Flannel: Do you think it will be faster if i upgrade by cd instead of downloading from internet?
[10:22] <eobanb> sjoerd and Sjoerd_ this is not the place for debating something like that
[10:22] <iamelite> huh,,,
[10:22] <ddrj> thanks Seveas, i'll try it
[10:22] <Ackeubu_> iamelite does it look weird?
[10:22] <delmar> after doing following the DapperUpgrade from cdrom-iso instructions, my system boots to the login, i login, and just get a blank brown screen... my regular desktop wont load.
[10:22] <Sjoerd_> Sjoerd_: Good luck trying via freenode staff, or even better - live with it.
[10:22] <hoopercc> 72%
[10:22] <perrupa> I see 6 devices including my mouse and iPod
[10:22] <gdb> Which if you two have been in this channel longer?  Because the two of you arguing over it is a bit moronic.  The one that was "here first" should get to keep his nick, the other should change.
[10:22] <iamelite> Ackeubu_ maybe... highlighted... ehh no big
[10:22] <perrupa> I PMed you the output
[10:23] <dli> delmar, login via console, mv away ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome*
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> iamelite cause i write youre name first??
[10:23] <Flannel> untung: depends on your download speed, of course.  If you upgrade via apt, youll be completely up to date afterwards, via the CD, you'll still need to update some stuff.
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> <iamelite not now i think
[10:23] <delmar> the dapper upgrade from breezy failed badly for me.... i think I need to re-install from scratch... and im highly pissed off at it
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> iamelite did you need help?
[10:23] <hoopercc> Back when I had a more commonly used nick I used to link <nick>_, <nick>` and some others to my regular nick
[10:23] <dli> delmar, try my suggestion first
[10:23] <iamelite> ackeubu_ ehh... anyways. im not on laptop
[10:24] <usama> can anyone help me about that mplayer problem?
[10:24] <delmar> dli, ok. let me get the failsafe thingie up
[10:24] <iamelite> Ackeubu_  ya i cant get mesa to change. i fallowed insructions
[10:25] <delmar> dli, so just create a backup_dir and biff them all in that/
[10:25] <suppaman> hi guys
[10:25] <suppaman> I've just run aptitude upgrade
[10:25] <suppaman> and the computer is all messed up
[10:25] <dli> delmar, whatever, or simply delete them
[10:26] <suppaman> now it doesn't even mount the root fs
[10:26] <mrDaniel> i have tried to fix my acpi-dsdt with this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ACPIBattery, but after a 'cat dsdt.asl >> /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386.acpi' and a rebbot, this failure massage appears : [17179579.044000]  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) [17179579.044000] ] 
[10:26] <ajayc> what is faster kde or gnome?
[10:26] <xarq> ajayc: fluxbox
[10:26] <mrDaniel> do anyone know what the proble could be?
[10:26] <rob> bash
[10:26] <dli> suppaman, kernel problem, or grub problem?
[10:26] <suppaman> dli: I think everything is happening
[10:26] <delmar> dli, nothing.  doeslt work ;(
[10:26] <mgi> hey.. anyone here have much experience with dvb-t cards?
[10:26] <Ackeubu_> iamelite im not sure what instructions youve followed but my honey is getting mad at me so i better sign off
[10:27] <Sjoerd_> ajayc: I think gnome is a little faster but if you want to decide maybe you should try both or google for 'gnome vs kde' :)
[10:27] <ddrj> Seveas: i have DMA enabled
[10:27] <suppaman> dli: I upgraded, at first bzflag ran software, so I tought "maybe restricted modules were updated" and rebooted
[10:27] <dli> delmar, gdm does work?
[10:27] <iamelite> oook
[10:27] <odres> just a question does realplayer (latest version) support Alsa ?
[10:27] <suppaman> dli: it rebooted on first time, but every ls -l  gave an error with registers dump !
[10:27] <delmar> dli, i get a login screen and about all I can do is change the session to Failsafe Terminal, and login and get a terminal up in the bottum right
[10:27] <iamelite> Ahh, Ive discovered how to purge the drivers...
[10:27] <mgi> does anyone have any idea why i wouldn't be able to tune my dvb-t card now that i've upgraded to dapper? (2.6.15-23)
[10:28] <mgi> sorry 2.6.15-25
[10:28] <nickrud> suppaman, the last few comments do not compute weill
[10:28] <dli> delmar, gnome ?
[10:28] <iamelite> Could someone please Direct me to where to get instructions for the latest ATI fglrx Drivers please
[10:28] <ajayc> xarq, i am talking on ubuntu
[10:28] <suppaman> nickrud: what do you mean ?
[10:28] <ajayc> sjoerd, whats fast on ubuntu?
[10:28] <dli> suppaman, boot a livecd, do fsck
[10:28] <delmar> dli, the Failsafe Gnome fails
[10:28] <usama> can anyone help me that why synaptic is not finding mplayer?
[10:29] <xarq> ajayc: fluxbox runs great on ubuntu, running it right now
[10:29] <ajayc> xarq, ok
[10:29] <ajayc> well one more prob
[10:29] <suppaman> dli: I think I'll do
[10:29] <ajayc> i installed enemy terriroy
[10:29] <delmar> dli, could not find the gnome installation running etc
[10:29] <ajayc> on my laptop
[10:29] <nickrud> suppaman, it's tough to figure out your issues without real error messages
[10:29] <suppaman> dli: but there are weirdities
[10:29] <ajayc> the the game screen is not at the cntre but askew towards left
[10:29] <delmar> dli, sorry.. says... could not find the gnome installation.... running the failsafe xtermin session instead
[10:29] <dli> delmar, did you do dist-upgrade ?
[10:29] <suppaman> nickrud: it's tough to remember error messages a few screens long when the computer is off
[10:29] <Lynoure> jalynne: I'm not sure there is more to it from Linux DHCP point of view than having CONFIG_VLAN_8021Q on and having the DHCP server in all the networks (and preferably firewalling some to keep the networks apart). see http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7268
[10:29] <delmar> dli, yes
[10:30] <Staz> Hi, how can make it so that I can run script from terminal without typing the path? eg "myscript <file>
[10:30] <suppaman> nickrud: it was a general exception or something like that, a memory dump (in hex) and the register status
[10:30] <delmar> dli, just did it again from apt internet sources too.
[10:30] <mattyv> wireless cards - ralink rt2500 vs atheros, which one should i get?
[10:30] <suppaman> nickrud: this only when using "-l" option to ls
[10:30] <nickrud> suppaman, ah, true. you could cut & paste & write errors to cd to show
[10:30] <steev> ok, so I have a .Xmodmap file, and i think i accidentally told it not to load in gnome when I was asked the first time it saw it - how the heck do I get it to ask again, aside from blowing away my .gnome2 directory?
[10:30] <dli> delmar, " sudo apt-get update " , " sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop "
[10:30] <delmar> dli, which upgraded about 400mb more than the CD
[10:30] <delmar> dli, ok just a moment. i can put those other files back then//
[10:30] <delmar> dli then.. /
[10:31] <Lord-ChewY> what does this error mean?
[10:31] <delmar> dli, ok my ? key is being a pain
[10:31] <suppaman> nickrud: yes but do you understand how weird is that behaviour ?
[10:31] <Lord-ChewY> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:31] <nickrud> suppaman, oh, well then that is very wierd, never saw anything close to that, ever.
[10:31] <suppaman> nickrud: I mean the "-l" thing
[10:31] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[10:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[10:31] <delmar> dli, can i put those other files back ?
[10:31] <jalynne> tnx lynoure
[10:31] <hoopercc> 95% :)
[10:31] <dli> delmar, doesn't matter
[10:31] <suppaman> dli: and X wasn't  starting because the fglrx module was wrong version os something like that so I tried a aptitude install linux-images-2.6.15-25-k7 instead of 2.6.15-21 I was running
[10:32] <suppaman> dli: it installed, I rebooted and now the kernel (after loaded the rd) cannot mount the root partition
[10:32] <Lynoure> jalynne: I hope it helps. Out of curiousity, how large a network are you dealing with, there?
[10:32] <dli> suppaman, then, try to boot the old working kernel
[10:32] <mgi> so does anyone have any idea about DVB-T PCI cards?
[10:32] <suppaman> dli: it doesn't boot either
[10:32] <mgi> my system is dapper 2.6.15-25
[10:33] <nyarla> hello there! how can i change my keyboard layout in console/tty mode?
[10:33] <suppaman> nyarla: loadkeys
[10:33] <dli> suppaman, fsck first
[10:33] <suppaman> I'm searching for an already burned iso
[10:33] <Sjoerd_> does anyone know where 'a2enmod' should be located on ubuntu installation? When I just type sudo a2enmod it says cannot find module... Where should it be or how can I install it?
[10:34] <suppaman> a Xubuntu, fine
[10:34] <jalynne> lynoure, Im working as a sys admin in a large retailer company in asia pacific, our branch is more than 30, each branch compose of 40 machines both computer and pos,
[10:34] <gdb> suppaman: An already burned ISO would be one that's already written to a physical disc and thus will be somewhere in your dorm / apartment / office / bedroom. ;-)
[10:35] <nyarla> thanks suppaman, is it permanent (loadkeys)
[10:35] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: that means it can't find the module (as in the module to enable) a2enmod is there.
[10:35] <suppaman> os gdb a bot ?
[10:35] <mrDaniel> do anyone tried a acpi-fix (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ACPIBattery) and got a 'kernel panic', too ?
[10:35] <suppaman> nyarla: no you have to put somewhere in boot script
[10:35] <gdb> suppaman: Yes, I'm a bot.
[10:35] <suppaman> nyarla: probably there's a config file
[10:35] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: Ok, how do I get the module for php5?
[10:35] <mrDaniel> if yes, how you solved this problem?
[10:35] <suppaman> and an empty cdrw, is there a recovery distro based on ubuntu ?
[10:36] <nickrud> suppaman, every dapper disk is a recovery disk
[10:36] <gdb> suppaman: The installation CD labeled "Desktop" can be used for system recovery.
[10:36] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: you don't have a php5.load in your mods-available?
[10:36] <hoopercc> A recovery distro? Couldn't you just use the LiveCD for that?
[10:37] <suppaman> hoopercc: yes, I could
[10:37] <nickrud> one of the finest things dapper has going for it
[10:37] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: correct, no php5 or anything even looking like it in that folder
[10:37] <suppaman> hoopercc: I just asked if there's a distro specifically built for system recovery
[10:37] <hoopercc> Nice, install is done.
[10:37] <hoopercc> Be back in a few.
[10:37] <eobanb> suppaman, actually you asked if there was one based on ubuntu
[10:37] <suppaman> yes based on ubuntu
[10:37] <suppaman> just to know..
[10:38] <eobanb> suppaman, maybe i'm missing something here, but what does it matter if a mere recovery disc is based on ubuntu or not
[10:38] <Lord-ChewY> yeah man im getting the same error
[10:38] <Lord-ChewY> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:38] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: you should reload the apache2 php module.  purge it (including config files) then reload it
[10:38] <eobanb> suppaman, and as we've already said, you can use the official ubuntu desktop CD for recovery purposes
[10:38] <Seveas> !compiling > Lord-ChewY
[10:38] <suppaman> eobanb: yes thanks, I already knew that
[10:38] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: What is that php module called? So i can purge it?
[10:38] <Lord-ChewY> sveas: i read that, thats the guid im following and im getting that uncovered error thx anyway
[10:38] <delmar> dli, sorry. network issues.
[10:39] <Lynoure> jalynne: Sounds like an interesting job :)
[10:39] <delmar> dli, ok so i started the ubuntu-desktop thing like u suggested and it wanted to get 11mb of 300ish mb. it did so.. and was installing more stuff
[10:39] <mattyv> which wireless is better, ralink or atheros
[10:40] <Flannel> Sjoerd_: it's libapache2-mod-php5
[10:40] <dli> mattw, ralink
[10:40] <mc__> mattw, both are very good
[10:40] <Awesome-o2000> I got all the 1/0 ranges I need for my soundcard, I temporarily installed 2k on that POS laptop
[10:40] <dli> mattyv, ralink
[10:40] <delmar> dli, however it just got to... starting system message bus dbus, starting hardware abstraction layer, and has stalled
[10:40] <jalynne> yeah! im a newbie in terms of switches so Im having problem in the implementation of a large network,
[10:40] <mattyv> cool, thats the easier 1 for me to get
[10:40] <Toma-> !nfs
[10:40] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:40] <Awesome-o2000> wish me luck
[10:41] <delmar> dli, i had to ctrl-c to make it continue. also.. at the moment.. the system now keeps booting up without any netowrk interfaces set.
[10:41] <Sjoerd_> Flannel: Thank you that fixed it :)
[10:42] <delmar> dli, basically this all started when it was messing with the upgrade and got to powernowd  ... wich is to do with CPU Freq scaling.... the last thing i saw on the screen was a message about package powernowD then it all froze... totally locked up.
[10:42] <delmar> dli, from there, I rebooted... and have had all these problems.
[10:43] <suppaman> eobanb: I noticed you turn around questions, I asked if there's an ubuntu based recovery distro and you asked what does it matter if there's one
[10:43] <delmar> dli, ok the installation process for ubuntu-desktop is complete
[10:43] <suppaman> eobanb: it was just my curiosity
[10:44] <delmar> dli, and we have some magic. cheers
[10:44] <eobanb> suppaman, okay, well to completely answer your question, no i dont know of any distros specifically aimed at recovery that are based on ubuntu other than the official ubuntu CD itself
[10:44] <Toma-> if you right click a folder in gnome and click Share Folder, how do you access it from another computer on the network?
[10:44] <delmar> dli, ok it wants me to reboot. lets home the networking is fixed now also
[10:45] <eobanb> Toma-, depends on the computer
[10:45] <Toma-> eobanb: its an ubuntu
[10:45] <suppaman> eobanb: thanks
[10:45] <eobanb> Toma-, i meant the other computer
[10:45] <Toma-> eobanb: yeh :) 2 computers with ubuntu
[10:45] <delmar> dli, during the upgrade.. it managed to install pcmcia.... so when i first rebooted afte rthe crash, it wouldnt boot.. kept hanging on starting pcmcia... so i renamed the init.d/pcmcia startup to something else.
[10:45] <eobanb> Toma-, well you should just have to open a gnome window and go to Network
[10:46] <Toma-> eobanb: thats the thing, it doesnt come up :/
[10:46] <delmar> i dont use pcmcia... and never will on this box.. so that was anoying
[10:46] <dli> delmar, I don't really know how you messed up, but clearly user mistakes to me
[10:46] <eobanb> Toma-, well are you sharing it with Samba or--?
[10:47] <suppaman> is there a coding channel on freenode ? I know it's OT but I don't know where to ask to
[10:47] <eobanb> suppaman, depends on the language
[10:47] <delmar> dli, quite possibly... but the system locking up during the process is more likely where things started to go wrong
[10:47] <eobanb> for C i think ##c is what you're looking for
[10:48] <Toma-> eobanb: NFS is the only option i have
[10:48] <ajayc> _TomB, hi
[10:48] <delmar> dli, ok.. my network interfaces are not coming up at boot.
[10:48] <eobanb> Toma-, well is NFS what you want to use?
[10:48] <Toma-> eobanb: basically, yeh.
[10:48] <dli> delmar, get a better kernel
[10:48] <gdb> delmar: I had the problem during the upgrade from Breezy to Dapper and ended up clean installing.  It hung during "starting PCMCIA services" which the machine I was on doesn't have.  Never did figure that one out. :-)
[10:48] <Toma-> eobanb: simple file swapping is all i need
[10:48] <delmar> dli, so dhcp client is broken too somehow. this is pissing me off. i think i should reinstall
[10:49] <delmar> dli, its not the kernel.. i can ifconfig them fine.
[10:49] <eobanb> Toma-, well i guess go to Places > Connect to Server then
[10:49] <gdb> delmar: What's in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0?
[10:49] <Toma-> eobanb: tried that too :?
[10:49] <dli> delmar, that's not "network interfaces not coming up"
[10:49] <delmar> gdb, exactly the same problem here but my issues started after it crashed during the upgrade... the rebooted.. and first thing that happens is the pcmcia issue... fixed that quick enuf and continued the upgrade from command line.
[10:50] <eobanb> Toma-, and does NFS show up there as an option?
[10:50] <Steven_M> hi all
[10:50] <Toma-> nope
[10:50] <suppaman> eobanb: I need to write down the combination of a given set, I cannot clearly elaborate the algorithm in my mind so I'm searching for a ready-to-use one
[10:50] <delmar> dli, network drivers are loading, but eth0 etc are not coming up configured.
[10:50] <gdb> delmar: When I tried to reboot after seeing the PCMCIA issue, the system wouldn't come up at all.  I was dumped to a grub> prompt. :-/
[10:50] <suppaman> eobanb: it's not related to a particular language
[10:50] <farous> anyone know of  Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097
[10:50] <eobanb> Toma-, hm, perhaps try install nfs-common then?
[10:50] <Steven_M> who here is a gtk expert?
[10:50] <eobanb> Toma-, or you could use samba
[10:50] <Toma-> its installed :/
[10:50] <gdb> delmar: Are you sure the machine can access a working DHCP server?
[10:51] <Toma-> yeh might try samba
[10:51] <dli> delmar, clean up /etc/network/interfaces , and double check /etc/init.d/networking, and your dhclient package
[10:51] <Toma-> seems to be more doc on it anyway. :(
[10:51] <gdb> delmar: Does "ifup eth0" do anything after boot?
[10:51] <delmar> gdb, also i find it interesting that every time the system boots.. grub defaults to the damn memtest option rather than the 1st ubuntu kernel option in the list
[10:51] <gdb> delmar: That's odd, but should be easily correctable.
[10:51] <dli> delmar, anyway, " apt-get --yes -f dist-upgrade "
[10:51] <gdb> delmar: Never seen that one. ;-)
[10:52] <delmar> dli, ok i see the problem with the networking right away. eth0 and eth1 are setup to auto configure.
[10:52] <delmar> dli, however for some reason my two network interfaces are now.. eth2 and eth3
[10:52] <Toma-> --yes -f is a good set of options? dunno........
[10:53] <dli> delmar, you may want to fix the nic names in udev
[10:53] <docta_v> delmar: change the default option in the grub config
[10:53] <delmar> docta_v, where/how/
[10:53] <delmar> dli, more info
[10:53] <nickrud> that's a summer of code thing, a front end to udev
[10:53] <gdb> delmar: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:54] <gdb> delmar: It uses cardinal numbers, based on position.  So if you want the first kernel to be the defaul, then set default to 0, second is 1, and so on.
[10:54] <eobanb> a front-end to udev would be awesome./
[10:54] <Hit3k> whats the default /boot partition on ubuntu or doesnt it have one?
[10:54] <eobanb> there is none.
[10:54] <gdb> It does not have one by default.
[10:54] <Hit3k> so if i wanted to add a splash screen to grub
[10:54] <delmar> docta_v, do i need to do anything else to commit the changes after that or its done ../
[10:54] <Steven_M> is there any way to make gtk+ apps use gtk 2 instead?
[10:55] <eobanb> Hit3k, it can just be a file on your drive
[10:55] <Hit3k> it would be (hd0,1)/boot?
[10:55] <gdb> Hit3k: You'd do it the same way as any other Linux distribution.  There is nothing special about /boot.
[10:55] <suppaman> ok bye
[10:55] <Hit3k> (hd0,1) being my / partition
[10:55] <docta_v> delmar: no further action necessary
[10:55] <delmar> dli, what files to i look at for the udev thing/
[10:56] <dli> delmar, /etc/udev/rules.d/ , make a rule file with rules, like,  KERNEL=="eth*", SYSFS{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx", NAME="eth0"
[10:56] <fatlip> i keep screwing stuff up :(
[10:56] <eobanb> Steven_M, not really, no.  not without re-writing them
[10:56] <gdb> heh I keep deleting my trash can every time I try to empty it :-/
[10:56] <docta_v> fatlip: you should change your nick to fatfinger
[10:57] <eobanb> fatlip, well if you have a specific question we'll help you any way we can
[10:57] <gdb> docta_v: heh
[10:57] <fatlip> problem #1.. i had a drive i was using as backup (to trasnfer to this ubuntu install) and its formatted as ext3 .. it was working fine til i booted up one time and now its not being recognized by ubuntu.. i tried manually mounting it using '-t ext3' and it wont mount.. anyway to force it?
[10:57] <eobanb> fatlip, is there an error message?
[10:57] <fatlip> yeah
[10:58] <gdb> fatlip: If the kernel can't tell what filesystem is on it, then no, you can't force it.
[10:58] <eobanb> which is....?
[10:58] <fatlip> also when i use the "disks" in the administrator menu, it shows as 'unknown'
[10:58] <eobanb> fatlip, have you tried re-formatting it?
[10:58] <delmar> dli, i dont get why i need to add hacks to make this work properly...surely there is a network config app to deal with this?
[10:58] <fatlip> then i'll lose everything on it
[10:58] <fatlip> which was the objective of backing up in the first place
[10:58] <eobanb> fatlip, if it's just a backup drive, then shouldnt you already have everything elsewhere?
[10:59] <fatlip> well that was the problem i was moving everything over and then i was going to keep it as a backup.. i got most of my stuff back
[10:59] <fatlip> just one or two folders didnt make it
[10:59] <fatlip> and btw the error message says "wrong fs type"
[10:59] <fatlip> if i boot under the older linux kernel, do you think it'll recognize it?
[11:00] <fatlip> i think i've upgraded since i originally formatted the disk
[11:00] <dli> delmar, this is a fundamental problem, kernel assigns different nic order for different kernels, udev hack is needed, that's why
[11:00] <eobanb> fatlip, i guess you could try that, but i dont think that's going to make much of a difference
[11:00] <Toma-> eobanb: ok, ive got samba sharing from 1 computer, but still no sign of it from the other
[11:00] <eobanb> Toma-, and what happens when you try connecting to it
[11:00] <fatlip> any other ideas?
[11:01] <delmar> dli, i dont think it will break much if i enable the interfaces via the gui, which is the same as editing /etc/network/interfaces .. set them for dhcp... and do /etc/init.d/networking reload
[11:01] <Toma-> eobanb: shows nothing
[11:01] <eobanb> fatlip, it kind of sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[11:01] <eobanb> Toma-, these two computers are on the same subnet, yes?
[11:01] <fatlip> its a brand new drive.. i'm going to try putting in another drive and make sure its not the enclosure
[11:01] <fatlip> brb
[11:01] <Toma-> eobanb: yeh
[11:01] <eobanb> good luck, fatlip
[11:01] <eobanb> Toma-, can you ping one from the other
[11:02] <delmar> ok i think i got most stuff fixed now... thanks Dli
[11:02] <Toma-> eobanb: yep. can play games too
[11:02] <gatekeeper> fatlip i recently had a brand new maxtor turned out to be bad
[11:02] <Steven_M> eobanb: do you know of a way of changing the double-click speed of gtk apps?
[11:03] <fatlip> its not the enclosure =/
[11:03] <delmar> hopefully not much else is broken but i guess I will find out
[11:03] <eobanb> Steven_M, System > Preferences > Mouse
[11:03] <delmar> docta_v, i set grub default to 1, rebooted and it was on the 2nd one. lol
[11:03] <LGKeiz> Hello, I would like to ask a question about paritions, I would like to have windows and ubuntu installed on the same hard disk, is there a program to do so.. cd booting is slow.
[11:03] <eobanb> LGKeiz, sure, that process is part of the ubuntu installer.
[11:04] <docta_v> delmar: it's a zero index and not one... so default=0 for the first
[11:04] <perrupa> hey guys
[11:04] <delmar> docta_v, yep. just figured that
[11:04] <LGKeiz> eobanb, sorry but I'm not sure by what you mean by that.
[11:04] <eobanb> LGKeiz, if you already have windows installed on a drive, the ubuntu installer can re-size the windows partition for you and add an ubuntu one.
[11:04] <perrupa> just rebooted my PC to see if it would solve my external HD problem
[11:04] <perrupa> and sdb is showing up in /dev/ again
[11:04] <LGKeiz> Okay cool, but how would I do that?
[11:04] <perrupa> but still no automounting going on
[11:04] <perrupa> any suggestions?
[11:04] <eobanb> LGKeiz, it's pretty self-explanatory, just run the ubuntu installer.
[11:04] <LGKeiz> k
[11:04] <fatlip> this is such a hassle :(
[11:05] <Steven_M> eobanb: not if you're outside of gnome
[11:05] <mozetti> morning -- anyone around that wants to help me track down a weird Thunderbird problem in Dapper?
[11:05] <perrupa> and sdb1 isn't in my fstab
[11:05] <eobanb> Steven_M, well i guess i assumed you were running gnome since this is, after all, #ubuntu
[11:05] <perrupa> should I add it manually?
[11:05] <farous> eobanb: did you try pmount
[11:05] <eobanb> farous, for what?
[11:06] <fatlip> yeah, it says Filesystem: Unformatted
[11:06] <farous> for auto mounting
[11:06] <eobanb> farous, i'm sorry, i'm not sure to what issue you're referring
[11:06] <farous> eobanb: i thought you had problems mounting a hd sorry perhaps wrong person
[11:07] <gdb> farous: that's fatlip
[11:07] <Steven_M> eobanb: you can use many other WM's with ubuntu
[11:07] <eobanb> farous, i believe it was perrupa that was having the problem
[11:07] <eobanb> Steven_M, well of course.  what WM are you using?
[11:07] <gdb> Well, there are 2 people then. :)
[11:07] <fatlip> okay well then problem #2.. i accidentally changed something in my volume control and now i cant get it back to the default that it was at
[11:07] <farous> oh am too sleepy and i think mistaken the names
[11:07] <fatlip> i have an audigy2 plat pro
[11:07] <farous> :)
[11:08] <eobanb> !tell fatlip about sound
[11:08] <gdb> Steven_M: It's safe to assume that someone running "ubuntu" is running the GNOME desktop.  So you may want to state clearly if you are running otherwise. ;-)
[11:08] <genius> !ghost
[11:08] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
 eobanb wants you to know: If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector
[11:08] <fatlip> thats not an option
[11:09] <LGKeiz> Alright eobanb I have 4 options, which one should I use?
[11:09] <eobanb> LGKeiz, you want to re-size your existing partition
[11:10] <LGKeiz> so the first "resize IDE1 master pirtion,etc"
[11:10] <fatlip> anyway, i mean the sound works fine.. i just cannot control the volume any longer
[11:10] <Steven_M> fluxbox, all other apps have perfect double click speed except for gtk+ ones
[11:10] <LGKeiz> parition *
[11:10] <eobanb> LGKeiz, unless you have more than one drive that i dont know about
[11:10] <MrRatt> could anyone here help me with alacarte menu editor?
[11:10] <LGKeiz> k. np
[11:10] <LGKeiz> This will give me a option, too which parition I want to boot?
[11:10] <Steven_M> eobanb:  fluxbox, all other apps have perfect double click speed except for gtk+ ones
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> MrRatt: Try asking a more specific question.
[11:10] <eobanb> Steven_M, hm, well i guess i'm not sure then.
[11:11] <LGKeiz> wtf
[11:11] <LGKeiz> It saids failed to create enough space o_o
[11:11] <LGKeiz> oh lol
[11:11] <eobanb> LGKeiz, well how much free space do you have available on the drive?
[11:11] <MrRatt> if i create a new program to run, it doesnt actually add it to my menu
[11:11] <LGKeiz> whats the minimal size for a parition
[11:11] <Steven_M> eobanb: thanks anyway :)
[11:11] <LGKeiz> I have atleast 65~70GB
[11:11] <eobanb> LGKeiz, that should be no problem...
[11:11] <MrRatt> same as if i tick or untick boxes
[11:11] <compengi> how do i make shells in ubuntu
[11:11] <eobanb> compengi, 'make shells'?
[11:11] <LGKeiz> Alright, I want to split it.. I'll make it 40GB
[11:12] <compengi> yes
[11:12] <LGKeiz> wait I cant
[11:12] <LGKeiz> ;x
[11:12] <gdb> Steven_M: I'd guess you'd run gnome-mouse-properties, but I'm not sure if that will affect all gtk apps or not.  I'd suspect that it will.
[11:12] <farous> compengi: do you mean write script files ?
[11:12] <eobanb> LGKeiz, the installer has an option to manually adjust your partitions
[11:12] <eobanb> compengi, i really dont know what you mean by 'make shells'
[11:12] <LGKeiz> click it, nothing is coming up under it
[11:12] <LGKeiz> *waits for it to load*
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> MrRatt: You might need to reload the Gnome panel (killall gnome-panel) to make the changes take effect.
[11:12] <compengi> no to distribute shell under my pc as a server
[11:12] <LGKeiz> oh nevermind, i'm a nub XD
[11:12] <MrRatt> tonyyarusso: thanks will try that now.
[11:13] <eobanb> !tell compengi about ssh
[11:13] <LGKeiz> *waits*
[11:13] <LGKeiz> dod
[11:13] <fatlip> theres no recovery options or programs for ext3? i mean i'm sure all the data is still there.. its probably just the FS table thats corrupt =/
[11:14] <fatlip> its possible the drive was not unmounted properly before shutdown (something froze)
[11:14] <compengi> eobanb do you what's a shell
[11:14] <eobanb> compengi, what?
[11:14] <fatlip> i think compengi is looking to make more users on his box
[11:14] <LGKeiz> It's taking it's sweet time
[11:15] <LGKeiz> It saids it's loading, but it's not going anywheres
[11:15] <LGKeiz> o_O
[11:15] <MrRatt> tonyyarusso: still doesnt show, if i go back to alacarte menu editor the options i added are not there again :(
[11:15] <compengi> it's where you put you psyBNC and eggrops in it
[11:15] <gdb> fatlip: There may be some options.  If you run "apt-cache search ext2 | more" you can see some utilities listed that may help you.  Some examples are e2tools and lde.
[11:16] <fatlip> compengi, i'm kind of a noob.. but i'm pretty sure you have to set up new user accounts and set up an sshd
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> MrRatt: Sounds like a bug to me...might want to file that on Launchpad.  No idea why it would do that.
[11:16] <gdb> delmar: Btw, that also lists e2undel
[11:16] <gdb> delmar: e2undel - Undelete utility for the ext2 file system
[11:17] <gdb> delmar: I have no idea how good that is.  Note that I have universe and multiverse enabled so you may or may not see that in your apt cache.
[11:17] <MrRatt> tonyyarusso: ok, thanks, i will try and uninstall it and reinstall it, see if that does anything, if not will file it on launchpad
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> MrRatt: Sounds like a plan.
[11:18] <MrRatt> back in a bit.
[11:19] <mozetti> anyone ever have a problem where Thunderbird wouldn't start at all?
[11:19] <eobanb> compengi, System > Administration > Users and Groups
[11:19] <docta_v> mozetti: did it ever work?
[11:19] <eobanb> mozetti, try running it from the terminal and see if there are any error messages.
[11:19] <fatlip> Disk /dev/sda - 238472 MB - CHS 30401 255 63 Analyse cylinder   194/30400: 00% Read error at 44/2/1 (lba=706986)
[11:19] <fatlip> would that be a hardware problem?
[11:19] <compengi> eobanb, ty
[11:20] <fatlip> its continuing now
[11:20] <mozetti> eobanb: no error messages
[11:20] <mozetti> docta_v: i ran it once, and cancelled out of the wizard b/c i didn't have the time/info to set it up
[11:20] <docta_v> there may be a process already running
[11:20] <eobanb> mozetti, so you type 'thunderbird', hit enter, and...?
[11:20] <mozetti> since then, I've tried running it, removing it, re-installing it, installing it from automatix, etc
[11:21] <docta_v> mozetti: run 'killall mozilla-thunderbird' and 'killall mozilla-thunderbird-bin' then try again
[11:21] <mozetti> eobanb: 'thunderbird' - command not found
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[11:21] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[11:21] <eobanb> mozetti, you have thunderbird installed?
[11:21] <mozetti> eobanb: yes
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> Wow.  That factoid has been toned down a LOT.
[11:22] <gdb> Everything I've read here has led me to believe that automatix is not to be trusted.
[11:22] <gdb> I'd recommend easyubuntu myself.
[11:22] <fatlip> yes.. automatix broke my system
[11:22] <Steven_M> gdb: is there any way to install gnome-mouse-properties without fully installing gnome?
[11:22] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, the official policy was to recommend easyubuntu instead of automatix, but now it's pretty much just 'read the docs like you're supposed to instead of taking shortcuts'
[11:22] <mozetti> docta_v: no process killed
[11:22] <gdb> Steven_M: Not to my knowledge.
[11:22] <rob> automatix was mentioned quite amusingly on http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[11:23] <Steven_M> ok thanks anyway
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> eobanb: Works for me.  (!automatix used to say that very, um, strongly.)
[11:23] <docta_v> mozetti: what if you just run mozilla-thunderbird
[11:23] <gdb> Steven_M: it's part of gnome-control-center and pretty much depends on the rest of gnome being installed.
[11:23] <gdb> Steven_M: What ubuntu are you running?
[11:23] <mozetti> docta_v: nothing
[11:23] <fatlip> i already have 4 read errors from this stupid drive
[11:24] <LGKeiz> mm I'm clicking "Manually edit the parition table" it's not allowing me to go any further, just sitting there..
[11:24] <fatlip> i really hope its an FS problem, and not a hardware problem
[11:24] <LGKeiz> anyone have any idea
[11:24] <Steven_M> gdb: kubuntu
[11:24] <LGKeiz> nvm x.x
[11:24] <docta_v> mozetti: maybe a corrupted profile? 'rm -rf ~/.mozilla-thunderbird' and then try running 'mozilla-thunderbird' again
[11:24] <gdb> Steven_M: Ah, perhaps the folks in #kubuntu might be able to help.  I'm not terribly familiar with KDE (other than that I don't care for it). ;-)
[11:25] <docta_v> mozetti: did you install thunderbird with apt or did you grab it directly from mozilla.org?
[11:25] <Steven_M> gdb: ok then
[11:25] <mozetti> docta_v: i used synaptic, apt-get, and automatix -- didn't try the direct mozilla d/l
[11:25] <gdb> The only caveat to using easyubuntu is that you must re-enable dapper-updates in /etc/apt/sources.list if you select to enable universe and multiverse.
[11:25] <mozetti> let me try the profile removal
[11:26] <docta_v> fatlip: you should run a diagnostic on it with a boot cd
[11:26] <gdb> This is a known bug that is slated to be fixed in the next release.
[11:26] <farous> Steven_M: if you have kde open kcontrol and mouse is under peripheral
[11:26] <DJJUM> I've just been searching my hard disk and noticed that the hard disk conatins the .deb files of everything I've installed. Are they necessary?
[11:26] <fatlip> do i need a boot cd for that? its external
[11:26] <gdb> farous: Apparently gtk applications do not honor that setting.
[11:27] <farous> gdb: strange it should not be this way :)
[11:27] <gdb> farous: Well, he's indicated that the double click speed is wrong only for gtk applications, I can't explain why, however.  But fixing it seems problematic at best.
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> farous: I guess that's what the one project was for - Portland?
[11:28] <mozetti> docta_v: i have a process called 'run-mozilla.sh' -- do i need that running?
[11:28] <farous> tonyyarusso: portland? I guess i still need to read more :)
[11:28] <hoopercc> Is Mozilla firefox running?
[11:29] <LGKeiz> eobanb, could you please answer your PM
[11:29] <FifaFrazer> new here.. I need an audio player, which can be minimised to the system tray in gnome, and supports the media buttons on my keyboard. Rhythmbox is almost good enough, but it can only play 20 of my 2000 music numbers. It comes with the error: the file is not an audio stream. The music files are on a read-only mounted ntfs partition.
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> farous: I'm not sure of the name - it's a recently launched effort to make KDE and Gnome more compatible.
[11:29] <mozetti> hoopercc: yes
[11:29] <docta_v> mozetti: in ps, does it have mozilla-thunderbird in the path right before run-mozilla.sh?
[11:29] <docta_v> if so, then kill that process
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> FifaFrazer: Do you have support for the filetypes?  May need to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:30] <farous> tonyyarusso: yah that would be great. rather then have gnomerc when using kde or kderc when using gnome
[11:30] <farous> :)
[11:30] <mozetti> docta_v: ps?
[11:30] <hoopercc> Why does capplets-data take so long to setup? Damn update :(
[11:30] <mozetti> !ps
[11:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about ps
[11:30] <hoopercc> mozetti - The process listing
[11:30] <docta_v> command line utility
[11:30] <docta_v> run ps -ef|grep run-mozilla
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> The bot doesn't need it - you have it - 'man ps'
[11:31] <mozetti> lou      32575  8629  0 11:31 pts/0    00:00:00 grep run-mozilla
[11:31] <Steven_M> farous: the mouse speeds in kde don't effect gtk+ apps
[11:31] <hoopercc> Geez, this update has been "configuring" capplets-data for at least 10 minutes now
[11:31] <FifaFrazer> tonyyarusso, :D it's because it's mp3
[11:31] <FifaFrazer> crap format
[11:32] <hoopercc> Anyone here know if that's normal?
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> FifaFrazer: That would do it.  Try following the instructions for those and you should be okay (it's not a player issue)
[11:32] <eobanb> LGKeiz, yes.
[11:32] <farous> Steven_M: ok i understand that now :)
[11:32] <eobanb> LGKeiz, or at least it's a modified version of gparted
[11:36] <mozetti> so, you guys are stumped, too?
[11:36] <docta_v> mozetti: killall run-mozilla.sh and try again
[11:37] <mozetti> docta_v: did that -- now run-mozilla.sh isn't in the process list, and doesn't come back when i run 'mozilla-thunderbird' or 'thunderbird'
[11:38] <peritus> how can i switch to iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8?
[11:38] <docta_v> i guess i don't have any ideas then
[11:39] <mozetti> ok -- i'm really stumped on this one. the profile manager switch doesn't work either
[11:40] <Kassah> is there a way to load a 32-bit firefox instead of 64 bit on a Ubuntu 6.06 amd64 install
[11:40] <Kassah> I've already got all the compat libs
[11:40] <gdb> mozetti: What is the issue?
[11:41] <mozetti> gdb: thunderbird doesn't start at all
[11:41] <gdb> mozetti: And when you run it at the command line, do you get an error?
[11:41] <hidden> hello, is there any way of transferring bookmarks from firefox to epiphany? i know i can transfer from epiphany to ff, but is it possible the other way around?
[11:41] <snedar> Kassah: the simplest way is to download firefox (.tar.gz) from their website, extract that somewhere into your home directory and run it when you've closed your 64-bit fx
[11:41] <mozetti> gdb: i've removed/re-installed multiple times using multiple methods. it just doesn't do anything. No, nothing at the command line. It thinks for a second, then returns the command prompt
[11:41] <gdb> mozetti: Regardless, the command I am about to tell you will kick you off your machine, but will set your login to a "clean state" when you log in again.
[11:42] <gdb> mozetti: run "kill -9 -1" as yourself, not as root!  Then log back into the machine and run "find ~/.mozilla -name lock -exec rm -f {} \;" (without quotes) and try running it again.
[11:42] <mozetti> gdb - ok, and it doesn't matter that i've re-started multiple times and it still doesn't work?
[11:42] <Kassah> snedar: hrrm... no way to do it with debs?
[11:43] <gdb> mozetti: I could very well be you have an unnecessary lock file in place.  But running kill -9 -1 will kill any process on the machine that's running as you (and thus any errant copies of thunderbird).
[11:43] <farous> Kassah: you can do it in a chroot
[11:43] <lly> 
[11:43] <snedar> Kassah: there might be firefox32-packages in a non-official repository, but I haven't try that
[11:43] <gdb> mozetti: Does that make sense?
[11:43] <AndrewRoman> I need help updating Firefox?
[11:43] <mozetti> gdb - yes
[11:44] <AndrewRoman> Do I update it through the command line?
[11:44] <AndrewRoman> apt-get update firefox?
[11:44] <snedar> I find it too bad that the amd64 version doesn't have a chroot by default -- even windows vista does something like that (it installs both IE7 x86 and IE7 x64 by default)
[11:44] <mozetti> ok, be back in a bit
[11:44] <AussieGuus> AndrewRoman: are you running the ubuntu default version or the one from the mozilla site?
[11:44] <gdb> mozetti: Note that running that "kill -9 -1" *will boot you off your machine* (this is normal, since it will also kill your login), but nothing will be running as you until you log in again. When you do get logged in, the second command will remove any file (regardless of type) named "lock" in your ~/.mozilla directory tree.
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> AndrewRoman: Can you be more specific about what you're trying to do?  Probably you want to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:45] <mozetti> gdb: ok - thanks. be back in a minute
[11:45] <gdb> mozetti: If you need the command repeated, just let me know after you're on IRC again.
[11:45] <AndrewRoman> Im running Version 5.10
[11:45] <AndrewRoman> it is default
[11:45] <snedar> another problem: I'm setting up a 32-bit chroot in my amd64 installation. according to the instructions I should copy files like /etc/password and /etc/timezone to the chroot. wouldn't it be a better idea to link those files, so that they get updated when I add a new user for example? should I use symlinks or normal links then?
[11:45] <Kassah> snedar: doesn't ubuntu have them in it's i386 version?
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> AndrewRoman: And you're trying to get 1.5 instead of 1.07?
[11:45] <gdb> snedar: They won't be accessible if they're under a chroot as links.
[11:46] <snedar> Kassah: yes, it does. you might try downloading the i386 deb-file from the i386 repository and force install them or something like that
[11:46] <gdb> snedar: The chroot renders anything above the root inaccessible, as if there is nothing above it.
[11:46] <AndrewRoman> Yea but i dont know how to update
[11:46] <AndrewRoman> it
[11:46] <snedar> gdb: ah, okay, thanks
[11:46] <gdb> snedar: Sure thing.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> AndrewRoman: Read that link then - that's exactly what it's for.
[11:46] <AndrewRoman> Alright
[11:47] <Tanel> i need help
[11:47] <Tanel> i wanna download easyubuntu but i cant
[11:47] <snedar> does anyone know if there is a reason why ubuntu amd64 doesn't have a chroot or packages like firefox32 by default? even installing gentoo amd64 is easier than this :-)
[11:47] <Hit3k> How do i make the split command split the .tar.gz file into other .tar.gz files?
[11:47] <Ribs> snedar: 32-bit support in Ubuntu amd64 isn't very good right now
[11:48] <Ribs> snedar: it may improve with edgy eft
[11:48] <pradeep> how do i change my default keyboard layout ?
[11:48] <Ribs> snedar: you can set up your own chroot if you want. Search the forums
[11:48] <fatlip> how do you make files/folders editable using chmod (not chown)
[11:48] <snedar> Ribs: I sure hope so...
[11:48] <snedar> I am setting up a chroot right now, but it could have been much easier
[11:48] <Ribs> just install 32-bit :>
[11:48] <gdb> snedar: The problem is that while Ubuntu is very polished and mature out of the box, the underlying technology can only evolve as fast as Debian which, frankly, moves at the speed of a drunk snail.
[11:48] <Ribs> the speed increase with amd64 is minimal
[11:49] <farous> snedar: there is an easy wiki page for it
[11:49] <snedar> farous: I'm doing something from the forums now, it looks easy enough, thanks :-)
[11:49] <farous> ok
[11:49] <Ribs> gdb: There is nothing stopping Ubuntu evolving the underlaying technology themselevs
[11:49] <snedar> can't ubuntu have a chroot by default without debian doing it first?
[11:49] <farous> did not sound so though ;)
[11:49] <Ribs> snedar: like I said... it may improve with edgy eft
[11:50] <Ribs> snedar: it's on the agenda, at least
[11:50] <gdb> Ribs: Other that starting over with a new sid snapshot every few months, there isn't.  But that sort of defeats the purpose of starting with sid as a baseline for each release.
[11:50] <snedar> Ribs: okay, that's good then :-)
[11:50] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon everyone!
[11:50] <mozetti> gdb - no luck
[11:50] <snedar> good afternoon, crazy_penguin
[11:50] <gdb> mozetti: Did you run the second command to remove any lock files?
[11:51] <mozetti> yep
[11:51] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: What is the issue?
[11:51] <whitehorseNtiger> Does Reiser4 implimented in Ubuntu yet?   I thought Reiser3 was the limit.
[11:51] <ompaul> pradeep, System Preferences Keyboard
[11:51] <mozetti> gdb:  this command: find ~/.mozilla -name lock -exec rm -f {} \;
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> whitehorseNtiger: It wasn't on the install CD's options anyway, not sure if it can be done later.
[11:51] <whitehorseNtiger> thanks
[11:52] <BCK14> i must say, after my first impression of ubuntu i was doubtfull that i would install it from the live cd, but i have to say this is one heck of a good distro :) nic job ppl :)
[11:52] <gdb> mozetti: This command will spam your terminal with a bunch of gibberish, but the very end of it may be useful -> "strace -f thunderbird"
[11:52] <pradeep> ompaul, i want to change the reset to default option
[11:52] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb: many things... not least of which is unless I run Windows and Internet Exlorer, they refuse to help
[11:52] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Who are "they" and what are they not helping with?
[11:52] <Ribs> InfoxicatingLady: Vote with your feet. Change ISP
[11:52] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Ah, your ISP, I got it.
[11:53] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: And what is the issue you're facing that they're not assisting you with?
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> InfoxicatingLady: I've had a fair bit of luck with an equally stupid ISP by pretending I was on Windows, and then just translating.
[11:53] <InfoxicatingLady> Ribs: I have 15 months left on the contract :/
[11:53] <Ribs> ouch
[11:53] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: :-/
[11:53] <ompaul> pradeep, so choose a different keyboard and you can manipulate that - if you mean you want to start from a different space that is what you choose in the install PC105Intl or whatever
[11:53] <mozetti> gdb: -- i ran the command. What am I looking for?
[11:53] <theine> Hi, is Xorg 7.1 already in Edgy?
[11:54] <gdb> I taught my ISP's admin everything he knows.  Well, now he knows more than me, but the place is very Linux friendly as a result. ;-)
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> theine: #ubuntu+1 for that
[11:54] <gdb> mozetti: Do you see anything in there that says ERR or any other "error condition" looking thing?
[11:54] <gdb> mozetti: Specifically anything like a return or exit value that's non-0
[11:55] <yoavyoavyoav> Hi. I've just downloaded ubuntu today and I have some problem - I downloaded the DVD and when I booted ubuntu up (in order to use the Live version) I booted up and when it finished my display was totally corrupted (can't see a thing)
[11:55] <mozetti> gdb: stat64("/opt/thunderbird/init.d/K*", 0xbf9e6f14) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or di rectory)
[11:55] <yoavyoavyoav> This happened also when I tried to use SuSe and mandriva one
[11:55] <ompaul> fatlip, grant them universal writable ability - so chmod +w foo is one way chmod 222 foo is another the numbers below 7 are what you want to deal with
[11:55] <gdb> mozetti: You're running on a 64 bit system?
[11:55] <mozetti> no
[11:55] <Ribs> yoavyoavyoav: I think there is a failsafe option when you boot up. Have you tried that?
[11:55] <pradeep> ompaul, didnt get what you said. the current layout (Eng -UK) gives me wrong keys. For ex: Shift + ' = @ instead of "
[11:55] <bigGrim> can any1 tell me why I can't save to samba network share on a winxp pro pc that has the appropriate permissions set?
[11:55] <gdb> mozetti: Hrm, interesting name for the syscall then.  Anyway, I don't think that error is the problem.
[11:55] <kimo> Guys, I help friends install Ubuntu. Should I recommend the 'Desktop/Live CD', or the 'Alternate' one ?
[11:55] <yoavyoavyoav> Yes I did. it actually worked. so what can be the problem ?
[11:56] <Ribs> kimo: Desktop
[11:56] <mozetti> gdb: this? - getdents64(3, /* 3 entries */, 4096)    = 80
[11:56] <Ribs> yoavyoavyoav: All sorts of things
[11:56] <gdb> kimo: depends on the cirumstance, generally Desktop.
[11:56] <Ribs> yoavyoavyoav: the system may behave better once it's installed.
[11:56] <kimo> Ribs: this is a Live & installable CD, correct ?
[11:56] <Ribs> kimo: Correct
[11:56] <yoavyoavyoav> Ohh got it...so maybe I'll try and install it...because I successfuly managed to Install Fedora.
[11:56] <kimo> thanks guys
[11:56] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : yeah... I'm teaching mine... but its hard when I'm the only customer who has problems
[11:57] <gdb> mozetti: No, that's just looking for directories and finding 3 present, all with an inode side of 4096 bytes.
[11:57] <yoavyoavyoav> BTW - is there another themes available on the DVD ? I cant stand that "Brown" color theme
[11:57] <ompaul> pradeep, check the check boxes that looks like you have a US keyboard go into that program and add a layout sop you have two and choose the UK one as default
[11:57] <InfoxicatingLady> when you're one of thousands, you aren't exactly a notable voice
[11:57] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: And what is the problem you're having?
[11:57] <mozetti> gdb: or this?  [pid  1411]  open("/opt/thunderbird/updates/0/update.status", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOE NT (No such file or directory)
[11:57] <mozetti> [pid  1411]  access("/home/lou/.thunderbird", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[11:57] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : the DNS server numbers
[11:57] <Ribs> yoavyoavyoav: Other themes are avalible when you have installed.
[11:57] <ompaul> yoavyoavyoav, is that a laptop?
[11:57] <yoavyoavyoav> nope
[11:57] <ompaul> yoavyoavyoav, is it lcd?
[11:58] <gdb> mozetti: No, that's not it.  This is the thunderbird that's installed with the system?  As in packaged for and supported by Ubuntu's core team?
[11:58] <yoavyoavyoav> yes with DVI
[11:58] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: As in they can't provide them for you?
[11:58] <yoavyoavyoav> 17" LCD connected with DVI
[11:58] <yoavyoavyoav> with Nvidia 7800gt
[11:58] <pradeep> ompaul, which is the internation layout? is there a specific name?
[11:58] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : I can connect to this, ping other servers and sites, by website name and IP, but cannot connect to them
[11:58] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: I fail to see how this is a Windows issue (and thus why they can't simply tell you the IP addresses of the DNS servers they provide).
[11:58] <ompaul> it might be worth right at the start to choose (I think F6) and add vga=771 at the start
[11:58] <mozetti> gdb: yes -- i had tried updating it, and using automatix, but the problem initially started with the standard Ubuntu version
[11:58] <yoavyoavyoav> what does it Mean ?
[11:58] <InfoxicatingLady> and for whatever reason, Ubuntu keeps 'dropping' the DNS numbers
[11:59] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: I'm not sure what that means.
[11:59] <ompaul> pradeep, just launch the program and use the "layouts" tab add the UK keyboard and then tick the little box for default
[11:59] <mozetti> gdb: lou@office:~$ thunderbird -v
[11:59] <mozetti>  Thunderbird 1.5.0.2, Copyright (c) 2005 mozilla.org
[11:59] <InfoxicatingLady> as in, they're there now, but in half an hour, they won't be
[11:59] <gdb> mozetti: In ~/.mozilla, do you have a thunderbird directory?
[11:59] <Ribs> InfoxicatingLady: How does ubuntu pick up this information?
[11:59] <Ribs> do you tell it, or does it find it itself?
[11:59] <InfoxicatingLady> Ribs: I manually input it
[11:59] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: And are you using a DHCP configured network?
[11:59] <InfoxicatingLady> yup
[11:59] <Ribs> that's why then
[11:59] <Ribs> the lease is expireing
[11:59] <ompaul> yoavyoavyoav, it is telling the o/s to threat the monitor in the most basic fashion
[12:00] <InfoxicatingLady> so I should change it to static?
[12:00] <yoavyoavyoav> ok I'll try that. thanks !
[12:00] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Yes, it sounds like your lease is expiring and your DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf are being clobbered.
[12:00] <gdb> No, hang on a sec.
[12:00] <mozetti> gdb -- i don't even have a mozilla or thunderbird directory in my home directory
[12:00] <ompaul> yoavyoavyoav, there are others have a look around (I think F5 for info)
[12:00] <yoavyoavyoav> and another question - is there a shortcut in ubuntu to change the languages (I have english and hebrew installed)
[12:00] <yoavyoavyoav> something like ALT+Shift perhaps ?
[12:01] <mozetti> gdb: scratch that -- the hidden .mozilla folder doesn't contain a thunderbird folder
[12:02] <ompaul> yoavyoavyoav, you would be best off asking in #ubuntu-il if they have anything cooked up for that, System Preferences Keyboard and the preferences tab and changing defaults is rapid
[12:02] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: While I am not clear on the exact syntax, I believe you will need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to set your DNS servers to specific fixed addresses and allow the rest of your network settings to continue to be controlled by DHCP.
[12:02] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb, Ribs: how would I 'fix' the lease i place, so it doesn't expire
[12:02] <yoavyoavyoav> Tnx !
[12:02] <ompaul> yoavyoavyoav, the major problem being the switch back right to left and left to right writing
[12:02] <InfoxicatingLady> thanks, gdb
[12:02] <Ribs> InfoxicatingLady: I would personally just use static
[12:02] <InfoxicatingLady> hehe
[12:02] <Ribs> or do what gdb said
[12:02] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: That's set by the DHCP server, not on you end.  However, you can tell your dhcp client to ignore the supplied DNS settings.
[12:02] <Ribs> which is probably a more elegant solution
[12:03] <pradeep> ompaul, thanks that worked
[12:03] <gdb> But like I said, I'm not clear on the exact way to do that, I just know it's possible. :-)
[12:03] <InfoxicatingLady> yeah, but if I don't use the supplied DNS settings, I cannot access anything, only ping it
[12:03] <gdb> mozetti: Let me think.
[12:03] <ompaul> pradeep, was it US keyboard in there?
[12:03] <kimo> duh, "nohup wget inside ssh session", now when I 'exit' from ssh, the process doesnt wanna end!
[12:03] <ompaul> !language
[12:03] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:04] <ompaul> aaaaa what is that doing there
[12:04] <InfoxicatingLady> sorry, ompaul
[12:04] <pradeep> ompaul, yes it's a US keyboard..i was adding the layouts under US .. now i just added the whole thing and it worked
[12:04] <gdb> mozetti: Might you create a test account on your system and run thunderbird there and see if it works?  This will narrow it down to either something with your account or something with the installed thunderbird software.
[12:04] <ompaul> InfoxicatingLady, k
[12:04] <docta_v> gdb: still does not rule out a pebkac issue
[12:05] <workbean> guys, if I'm using a sempron 2200+ should I use the 686 kernel or the K7 kernel?
[12:05] <BCK14> !partition
[12:05] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[12:05] <mozetti> gdb: ok, i'll try that. I removed it with apt-get and am trying to re-install it (again) through Synaptic
[12:05] <gdb> docta_v: The use of automatix is a pebcak issue ;-)  At least from what I've been led to believe. ;-)
[12:05] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb: "Permission denied"
[12:05] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: When doing what?
[12:05] <whitehorseNtiger> How do I un-muffle my sound.
[12:06] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb"/etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf"
[12:06] <farous> workbean: for amd you use the k7 kernel
[12:06] <gdb> whitehorseNtiger: remove the muffle
[12:06] <whitehorseNtiger> am I going deaf
[12:06] <whitehorseNtiger> :)
[12:06] <solsTiCe> what's extension of firefow will allow me to have reopen the tab i had when i closed firefox ?
[12:06] <BCK14> if i delete my windows partition, will grub fail to work ?
[12:06] <docta_v> solsTiCe: sessionsaver
[12:06] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: You need to edit the file as root.
[12:06] <solsTiCe> docta_v: thnx
[12:06] <whitehorseNtiger> The speakers and mplayer sounds TERRIBLE today.
[12:06] <workbean> farous: yeah man, that's what I thought, I saw some misleading website then. They claimed that the Athlon XP should use the 686 kernel.
[12:06] <whitehorseNtiger> I don't know what is wrong.
[12:07] <Hit3k> InfoxicatingLady, sudo nano/pico/gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[12:07] <farous> workbean: first time i ever read here that
[12:07] <LGKeiz> Does anyone know why when I try to create a new parition, to install Ubuntu, I make it like 40GB partition and like it saids "failed to create enough space for installation" and I can't access my HD Volume, I have windows installed, and I want it so I can switch between Windows and Unbuntu without completely formatting for Unbuntu, has anyone encountered this issue before?
[12:07] <ompaul> whitehorseNtiger, there are several volume settings - the speaker on the desk top any external control and application usually push them all up a little and unless you were out clubbing you may notice that it is better
[12:07] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Well, you may want to be familiar with the file's contents before editing it.  However, to edit it you will do as Hit3k suggested.  I'd suggest using gedit, however.
[12:07] <workbean> found it here @ farous - http://ubuntufs.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/easy-speed-up-for-ubuntu/
[12:07] <Hit3k> gdb, i was just about to add that :)
[12:07] <stamen> hi
[12:08] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: I suspect you need to uncomment the "option domain-name-servers" line and add the actual name servers your ISP uses.  But that's what I'd do, and that could be wrong. :-)
[12:08] <gdb> Hit3k: hehe
[12:08] <whitehorseNtiger> The volume control on the panel is all the way up....the external speakers are all the way up.....and mplayer is all the way up and for some reason it sounds terrible.
[12:08] <InfoxicatingLady> hrm
[12:08] <ompaul> !dualboot
[12:08] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:08] <InfoxicatingLady> :permission denied"... again
[12:08] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: Did you try to install on the right partition, and not e.g. on the swap partition?
[12:09] <Hit3k> InfoxicatingLady, are you typing "sudo"
[12:09] <ompaul> LGKeiz, ^^ read that last comment by ubotu and follow the links
[12:09] <InfoxicatingLady> .me swears again at her ISP, this time right away from the cahnnel ;)
[12:09] <whitehorseNtiger> Could my speakers be worn out
[12:09] <InfoxicatingLady> Hit3k : yup
[12:09] <farous> workbean: the speed increase is not that much. he is exagg
[12:09] <Hit3k> InfoxicatingLady, does it ask for your password?
[12:09] <InfoxicatingLady> am I not meant to?nope
[12:09] <LGKeiz> ...swap partition
[12:09] <LGKeiz> right partition
[12:09] <LGKeiz> >_>
[12:10] <LGKeiz> I didn't have any options to choose a partition
[12:10] <ompaul> !enter
[12:10] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:10] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Run this command then, to be sure $ gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[12:10] <workbean> thanks farous
[12:10] <farous> :)
[12:10] <Hit3k> !butwhyompaul
[12:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about butwhyompaul
[12:11] <Poromenos> hello
[12:11] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb: "bash: $: command not found"
[12:11] <risto> hi > sinervuo.com
[12:12] <Hit3k> InfoxicatingLady, without the $
[12:12] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Yes, that $ represents your command shell prompt, where you will enter that command.
[12:12] <Poromenos> i have a USB DSL modem and I want to set up ubuntu LAMP server, how can I have it dial up?
[12:12] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb: "authenticaton rejected..."
[12:12] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: i.e. how to get your modem to work ?
[12:12] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Tell you what, you are running dapper, yes?
[12:12] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: yes :)
[12:12] <InfoxicatingLady> breezy
[12:12] <ompaul> Hit3k, ergo I say >> full text of command << with leave out the <> and that communicates it ;-)
[12:12] <DJJUM> does your modem have an ethernet port?
[12:13] <Poromenos> DJJUM: no, it's USB
[12:13] <w-mute> Anybody of you folks having problems with gnome-cups-icon too? (Like it consuming loads of CPU time and stuff?)
[12:13] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Judging from the OTEnet IP, you probably have an accessrunner, right ? 'lsusb' will tell you ...
[12:13] <Hit3k> InfoxicatingLady, you havnt updated?
[12:13] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Close enough.  Can you please paste your dhclient.conf file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and then link it here?
[12:13] <cwillu> would anybody be surprised if I said that my dhcp client just assigned an ip address to both nics, even though one of them is one a network with no dhcp server?
[12:13] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: no, i got a ZyXEL, erm, something :/
[12:13] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: speedtouch actually, alcatel speedtouch
[12:13] <cwillu> w-mute: I usually just stop the process from system | sessions :/
[12:14] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Try 'lsusb'. You will see your modem there. I haven't heard of any ZyXEL chipsets...
[12:14] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : can you help me actually finding it? (yes, I am that much of a newb)
[12:14] <gdb> it should be in /etc/dhcp3
[12:14] <cwillu> InfoxicatingLady: /etc/dhcp3
[12:14] <LGKeiz> It saids my disk is "read only filesystem"
[12:14] <yango> hi, how do I tell linux that the hardware clock is local time and not UTC?
[12:14] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : as in, how do I get that file?
[12:14] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: and how do i get it to dial up on startup?
[12:14] <gdb> Note that I only ran Breezy for 3 weeks before dapper came out. ;-)
[12:14] <InfoxicatingLady> thanks cwillu
[12:14] <w-mute> cwillu: that's what I tend to do, too, but this piece of SW shouldn't misbehave in the first place, right?
[12:14] <cwillu> w-mute: I don't think so, I just haven't had the time to investigate
[12:15] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Please use www.pastebin.com. Paste the output of 'lsusb', and then I might be able to help you :)
[12:15] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: You can load it into gedit and do Edit -> Select All, then Edit -> Copy, the put your cursor in the website indicated, right click, and select Paste.
[12:15] <w-mute> cwillu: any idea on how to get debugging symbols for it?
[12:15] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: ah, the pc is 1000 km away and linux isn't even installed :P
[12:15] <LGKeiz> Could someone please help me with the issue, that I can't install Ubuntu
[12:15] <LGKeiz> and I can't access my disk
[12:15] <cwillu> w-mute: might check google if anybody's posted a bug about it (cups-icon dapper OR ubuntu)
[12:15] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Hm... Can you remember what model it was ?
[12:15] <w-mute> cwillu: except the obvious, of course (being: compiling it on my own).
[12:15] <Poromenos> yes, sec
[12:15] <morphius_> I am trying to set up a dhcp server. It looks like: WAN --------- Ubuntu box ------------- LAN. What will keep DHCP from broadcasting on the WAN side?
[12:15] <cwillu> w-mute: ah, not off hand;  might be a python process though
[12:16] <risto> This is hard - I cant installll any usefull programs!
[12:16] <LGKeiz> Anyone?
[12:16] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb: you do realise I am having probelms accessing any websites at all, don't you?
[12:16] <neutrinomass> w-mute: For debugging symbols, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[12:16] <w-mute> cwillu: don't think so. I don's see a pyton interpreter running.
[12:16] <cwillu> morphius_: should be able to tell it to only bind to the lan adapter
[12:16] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: but you got the option of partitioning your disk during installation?
[12:16] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Then use this IP address -> 87.250.150.84
[12:16] <InfoxicatingLady> see :P
[12:16] <w-mute> neutrinomass: thanks.
[12:17] <morphius_> cwilly: I know that but do I use dhcpd.conf /etc/networking/interfaces or iptables and what is the command?
[12:17] <cyphase> http://www.libelektra.org/
[12:17] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: ZYXEL PRESTIGE 660R-61C
[12:17] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : it opened a page, but I can't do anything with that page
[12:17] <cwillu> morphius_: dhcpd.conf probably
[12:17] <LGKeiz> Lynoure: what I do is click the install icon on the desktop, do the following it tells me, then there is 4 options, I click the first, I set it to 40GB ( I have a 108GB hd ), Yes I do have Windows XP Home Edition Installed. But when I click "forward" it tells me there isn't enough space, when I know there is over 60-70GB of space leftr over.
[12:17] <cwillu> morphius_: interfaces is the client side, and iptables is the wrong approach (run the service, but block it)
[12:17] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: oh hell, heh, it's a virtual server then
[12:18] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: hrm
[12:18] <morphius_> or perhaps in the calling script?
[12:19] <rizo> hi I needed some help with processes running on ubuntu
[12:19] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: or rather, 630-C
[12:19] <InfoxicatingLady> yeah. see, the DNS server info is gone again already
[12:19] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: http://www.zyxel.com/web/product_family_detail.php?PC1indexflag=20040812093058&CategoryGroupNo=1B20CD84-C882-4A4B-BA73-93C80224626B
[12:19] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Is there anything in /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:19] <LGKeiz> Does ANYONE know how I canfix this?
[12:19] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : yeah. I can paste into a file, and DCC it...
[12:20] <InfoxicatingLady> or paste it in PM, if that is easier
[12:20] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: probably can't DCC me anything, but you can paste in a PM if you like
[12:20] <LGKeiz> anyone...?
[12:21] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: Thanks. The 630-C clarification was neccessary. It's an Accessrunner probably - you can only be sure with 'lsusb'. This might be of some use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/AccessRunner
[12:21] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: hmm, it has been some months since I last installed ubuntu...
[12:21] <InfoxicatingLady> hrm... and apparently, PMs are currently blocked
[12:21] <rizo> I have ubuntu with both kde and gnome installed, today i looked at the cpu monitor and it was at 100%. I looked at the processes and Kde prcesses where eating up the cpu cycles, so i stopped the processes and cpu usage returned to normal, does any know how i can stop the processses from running at all as they pretty pointless
[12:21] <neutrinomass> Poromenos: I haven't found the time to complete the wiki page, but I'll do so ASAP. If you have any questions in the meantime, feel free to e-mail me , ok :) ?
[12:21] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: hrm.. Are you getting an error when you try?
[12:22] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: /query gdb
[12:22] <LGKeiz> Lynoure - .. Why is my disk telling me I can't access
[12:22] <LGKeiz> or write in it?
[12:22] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: then paste in there
[12:22] <LGKeiz> I'm booting from the CD
[12:22] <LGKeiz> btw
[12:22] <LGKeiz> :x
[12:22] <Poromenos> neutrinomass: will do, i'll go read the page now, efxaristo :)
[12:22] <rizo> anyone help please?
[12:22] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )"
[12:22] <LGKeiz> Could anyone tell me an solution to my problem?
[12:23] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: Ah, you're not registered on freenode.
[12:23] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: so you get the screen shown at http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2836/3052/1600/step6.0.png and soon after that an error?
[12:23] <rizo> I have ubuntu with both kde and gnome installed, today i looked at the cpu monitor and it was at 100%. I looked at the processes and Kde prcesses where eating up the cpu cycles, so i stopped the processes and cpu usage returned to normal, does any know how i can stop the processses from running at all as they pretty pointless
[12:23] <LGKeiz> loading..
[12:23] <LGKeiz> no
[12:23] <LGKeiz> I don't
[12:23] <LGKeiz> I get too the 4 options
[12:23] <LGKeiz> I resize my disk to 40GB
[12:24] <LGKeiz> and then I click forward, and then it gives me the error "not enough space to make this installation"
[12:24] <LGKeiz> But .. I can't access my Volumn neither
[12:24] <InfoxicatingLady> gdb : I am now :P
[12:24] <J-_> where can i get a list of repo's to install for ubuntu, breezy badger?
[12:24] <gdb> InfoxicatingLady: ok, try now
[12:24] <gdb> ah ok
[12:24] <Ng> !repos > J-_
[12:24] <sid> If someone does a dist-upgrade from sarge to dapper...will that break shit? or will it generally work?(I don't care about this machine)
[12:24] <J-_> thanks
[12:24] <farous> InfoxicatingLady: i use this line in the /etc/network/interfaces file. works here dapper installation though. dns-nameservers 192.168.123.254.
[12:24] <Ng> sid: it'll break
[12:24] <Inferus> Hi all :)
[12:24] <bbrazil> sid: that'll break
[12:24] <J-_> !repos
[12:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:25] <LGKeiz> It saids that I don't have permission to access these files
[12:25] <Ng> sid: you may be able to go sarge->breezy, then breezy->dapper, but pretty much not sarge->dapper. a reinstall would be best :)
[12:25] <sid> bbrazil / Ng definitely?
[12:25] <LGKeiz> when I try to browse, or create folders,etc
[12:25] <LGKeiz> any idea why ?
[12:25] <Inferus> Can anyone tell me how to get a visible list of users in the gnome xchat GUI please?
[12:25] <LGKeiz> ... =.=
[12:25] <sid> bbrazil / Ng anything that is needed won't just be installed?
[12:25] <finalbeta_> Inferus, deinstall gnome xchat, and install the real xchat.
[12:25] <sid> Ng: What about sarge > sid > dapper?
[12:25] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: are you installing from the live cd? With install cd you should not get to anything with browsing of folders until after the install
[12:25] <Inferus> oh?
[12:26] <Inferus> ok thanks finalbeta_
[12:26] <sid> Ng: Or sarge > etch > dapper?
[12:26] <Inferus> what is it's packagename please?
[12:26] <LGKeiz> Lynoure:  I booted from disk
[12:26] <Ng> sid: as I understand it, if you are going to do it you need to go ->breezy, you can't really do anything -> dapper
[12:26] <LGKeiz> And then I clicke dhte "install" icon on the desktop
[12:26] <bigGrim> why can't i write to a windows file share in ubuntu?
[12:26] <Ng> sid: but even then it's still not recommended
[12:26] <Ng> bigGrim: how did you mount the share?
[12:26] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: booting for disk can mean any thing. Which disk. Dapper install, dapper live cd, hard disk?
[12:26] <finalbeta_> Inferus, you installed the gnome-xchat package or something? Had the same problem yesterday. It has a more basic gui, lots of options not available. It's something to remember for several packages, like (g)xine
[12:27] <LGKeiz> I'm booting from my CD
[12:27] <LGKeiz> Not HD
[12:27] <Inferus> ah ok thanks
[12:27] <Inferus> what did you install to get proper xchat
[12:27] <Inferus> ?
[12:27] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: Which cd? What is the label on it?
[12:27] <bigGrim> Ng: i didnt, i am just browsing from file manger in ubuntu... nautils i think...
[12:27] <LGKeiz> I burnt the CD
[12:27] <compengi> Ng, do you know how to make a shell?
[12:27] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: I give up.
[12:27] <finalbeta_> Inferus,  Use synaptic to search for xchat, the normal pachage is in there.
[12:27] <Ng> compengi: how do you mean?
[12:27] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[12:27] <Inferus> i didnt see it finalbeta_ ;/
[12:27] <docta_v> Inferus: from command line "apt-cache search xchat" to find package names
[12:28] <Inferus> ya
[12:28] <Inferus> thx
[12:28] <LGKeiz> Lynoure: I burnt the CD, meaning.. I downloaded the ISO, burnt the ISO to an blank disk, and booted from it
[12:28] <Inferus> craig@debix:~$ apt-cache search xchat
[12:28] <Inferus> xchat-gnome - a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client
[12:28] <LGKeiz> When I first started my computer
[12:28] <Inferus> thats all i get
[12:28] <bigGrim> Ng: is there something more i have to do?
[12:28] <compengi> Ng, so that i can distribute shell to users but my pc should be on
[12:28] <Xem> can anyone help me i have just downloaded the ubuntu cd 6.06 and tried to boot but it wont i am also running windows and wish to know if there is any way i can make a dual boot system
[12:28] <Ng> bigGrim: aha, well if you mount the share in question, you should be able to write to it (assuming the user you connect as has permissions to do so)
[12:28] <LGKeiz> does that make sence at all?
[12:28] <finalbeta_> Inferus,  xchat or xchat-common will do.
[12:28] <gourdin> anyone here using compiz/xgl on a intel 950 chipset ? (i945 vid card)
[12:28] <Lynoure> LGKeiz: Yes, but if you don't know whether it is livecd or install cd, I cannot know that either...
[12:28] <docta_v> Inferus: can't you install that?
[12:28] <Ng> compengi: you mean you want to allow people to connect to your machine remotely? ie ssh?
[12:28] <Inferus> it's not listed there finalbeta_
[12:28] <Inferus> no docta_v, not listed
[12:28] <bigGrim> Ng: its a windows share, how do i go about doing that?
[12:28] <compengi> no
[12:29] <Xem> i downloaded the live cd
[12:29] <compengi> Ng,  do you know what is a shell
[12:29] <docta_v> Inferus: install the gnome one...it will install whatever it needs as a dependency....or are you not using gnome?
[12:29] <finalbeta_> Inferus,  i'm not sure what repo it's from, did you enable universe?
[12:29] <Ng> bigGrim: I don't have any windows machines here to remind myself exactly, but if you know the details of the share you can just go Places->Connect to Server
[12:29] <Inferus> whats universe?
[12:29] <finalbeta_> docta_v, he doesn't want the crippled gnome one
[12:29] <LGKeiz> sec
[12:29] <Ng> compengi: I know what a shell is (bash, csh, zsh, ksh, etc), but your questions don't yet make sense :0
[12:29] <docta_v> yea you gotta enable all the extra repos... universe, multiverse
[12:29] <bigGrim> Ng: i did that but i still can't write back to it
[12:29] <di> how do i find the number of frames present in an avi file?
[12:29] <LGKeiz> Lynoure: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[12:29] <LGKeiz> I got it from that
[12:29] <LGKeiz> one of the mirrors
[12:30] <LGKeiz> I have no idea If it's live or install
[12:30] <Ng> bigGrim: are you sure the user you connected as has permissions to write to it?
[12:30] <gdb> finalbeta_: How is xchat-gnome "special"?
[12:30] <gourdin> anyone using ubuntu on a macBook ?
[12:30] <compengi> on shell you can put psybnc, eggdrop....
[12:30] <Inferus> di count them? ;)
[12:30] <di> sigh
[12:30] <Inferus> you can calculate it
[12:30] <AussieGuus> Xem: assuming you burned the iso as an image not just put the iso on the cd, make sure your bios is set to boot from the cdrom before the HDD
[12:30] <LGKeiz> opps
[12:30] <Inferus> get the amount of seconds the film runs for
[12:30] <finalbeta_> gdb, it has it's own special gnome interface, it's simpler, but you mis allot of options
[12:30] <Inferus> and multiply it by the framerate
[12:30] <LGKeiz> The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all
[12:30] <LGKeiz> >.>
[12:30] <di> how do i find the number of frames present in an avi file automatically?
[12:30] <gdb> finalbeta_: Ah, no wonder I can't find a number of settings I remember from years ago when I last used it.
[12:30] <Ng> di: mplayer may tell you in the huge amount of rubbish it spits out when you run it from a terminal, or you could open it in a video editor, avidemux perhaps
[12:30] <di> note: automatic
[12:30] <Ng> di: and less of the sighing :)
[12:31] <di> Ng: wow thx
[12:31] <LGKeiz> The server install CD allows you to install Ubuntu permanently on a computer.
[12:31] <LGKeiz> rofl
[12:31] <LGKeiz> opps
[12:31] <luke> my XMMS looks really wierd now - the images have white noise all over them
[12:31] <luke> any ideas?
[12:31] <bigGrim> Ng: yes
[12:31] <Xem> yeah i did try that but it still wont boot
[12:31] <finalbeta_> gdb, I found that out last night, stay away from gnome packages if you can get the standard ones, same thing with gzine and zine.
[12:31] <bigGrim> Ng: full perms
[12:31] <finalbeta_> xine sry
[12:31] <Ng> di: I expect that you could craft suitable mplayer/ffmpeg options so you can grep/sed/awk out the number of frames without it playing
[12:31] <Ng> bigGrim: hmm, that is strange
[12:31] <snedar> hi! I'm trying to run teamspeak, but when I start "aoss ./teamspeak" I get this error: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored."
[12:31] <docta_v> luke: change the theme?
[12:31] <luke> doesnt help docta_v
[12:32] <AussieGuus> Xem: what program did u use to burn the image to cd?, how did you do it exactly
[12:32] <di> Ng: yikes lol
[12:32] <LGKeiz> Lynoure: so I need to download the "server cd"
[12:32] <compengi> Ng, on shell you can put psybnc, eggdrop....
[12:32] <Xem> i used nero after downloading the imnage
[12:32] <LGKeiz> and burn it
[12:32] <docta_v> luke: sounds like a video driver problem but i don't know why that would affect just a single app
[12:32] <LGKeiz> Ah
[12:32] <LGKeiz> So no wonder I couldn't access anything
[12:32] <LGKeiz> this is the desktop CD
[12:32] <LGKeiz> *kicks self*
[12:32] <Ng> compengi: could you describe the situation you want a little more fully - do you want other people to be able to connect to your machine and run things? do you want to be able to run things in a shell in the background?
[12:32] <Inferus> How do I enable the universe multiverse thing?
[12:33] <LGKeiz> brb
[12:33] <LGKeiz> xD
[12:33] <bigGrim> Ng: does the windows pc being part of a workgroup make a diff?
[12:33] <Ng> compengi: if you just want to run eggdrop, open a terminal, install eggdrop and run "eggdrop" - you need to give me more details if that's not what you want
[12:33] <compengi> yes
[12:33] <docta_v> Inferus: just google for enable universe ubuntu
[12:33] <jrib> ubotu: tell Inferus about repos
[12:33] <di> Ng: im encoding an avi and i was wondering how long ffmpeg will take to finish
[12:33] <AussieGuus> Xem: in nero did u click (from memory), File > Burn Image to CD, then select the iso you downloaded?
[12:33] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi all. I'm having trouble with my wireless card. It worked fine for ages but now it won't get an IP via DHCP and if I set an IP I still cant access the network. Any idea's?
[12:33] <compengi> i want to distribute shell to people in specific amout of background
[12:34] <Xem> yep i even opened it afterwords in my computer and it was a rar file is that what it was supposed to be
[12:34] <Xem> ??
[12:34] <Ng> di: ah yeah, it is quite annoying that it doesn't give a %age completed or so
[12:34] <bigGrim> Ng: did the connect thing... still opens as read only
[12:34] <di> Ng: Im guessing by filesize
[12:34] <Ng> compengi: if you want other people to be able to connect to your machine to run commands, install openssh server, if you want to be able to run things without having a ssh/terminal session connected all the time, use screen
[12:35] <nox-Hand> Hey
[12:35] <AussieGuus> Xem: hmmmm, sounds like you used the correct method, ill try to find a link to the guide for you
[12:35] <Ng> di: I just ran it here and I noticed that it prints out "Duration" and "fps" - I reckon if you convert the duration to seconds and multiply it by the fps, you'll get the number of frames, but not especially automagically ;)
[12:35] <nox-Hand> I have an AMD Athlon Xp processor, doesn't that mean I could install the linux-k7 image to get a better kernel?
[12:35] <Xem> thanks alot
[12:35] <Xem> ;)
[12:35] <bigGrim> Ng: i've double connect perms
[12:35] <Ng> nox-Hand: correct
[12:36] <bigGrim> Ng: checked even
[12:36] <compengi> ok ty Ng
[12:36] <di> Ng: oh yeah
[12:36] <nox-Hand> Ng, Cheers, just had to be sure :) Using some nice guides :P
[12:36] <di> di: lol... thanks!
[12:36] <Ng> bigGrim: well you could try mounting it "properly" - ie using the mount command. shout if you need a hand with that (especially watch out for the uid and gid options - you want your user's ids for those)
[12:37] <Cueball|Laptop> Anyone here had much experience with Wireless?
[12:37] <bigGrim> Ng: like, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_network_folders_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite --> sudo mount //192.168.0.1/linux /media/sharename/ -o username=myusername,password=mypassword,dmask=777,fmask=777
[12:37] <sid> Does openoffice.org work the same in 64 as it does in 32 bit enviroment?
[12:38] <bigGrim> Ng: i tried that
[12:38] <ubuntu> hi guys
[12:38] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[12:38] <compengi> Ng, do you know a prog that converts dvd to avi
[12:38] <Ng> bigGrim: yeah, that's the kinda thing, but I'd also recommend sticking uid=NNN,gid=MMM in the options bit, where NNN is your uid and MMM is your gid
[12:38] <spy> So who can advise me on installing windows and ubuntu on the same disc?
[12:38] <Ng> compengi: there's dvdrip in multiverse
[12:38] <peibol_> hello someones has an ipod?
[12:39] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[12:39] <saxin_> spy: install windows first, then ubuntu
[12:39] <eegore> With the dapper release, is there compatibility with the regular debian repositories?
[12:39] <Inferus> be back soon, sorting my xchat :)
[12:39] <di> Ng: thanks! ill make a HOWTO now
[12:39] <bigGrim> Ng: how do i find my uid and gid?
[12:39] <nox-Hand> I am trying to install InitNG, but I seem to be missing a public key for the new deposotories. How will I add these? (( using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitNG ))
[12:39] <spy> windows is now installed, and i am now booted from the install disc of ubuntu
[12:39] <Ng> bigGrim: run "id" in a terminal. if you're the first user it should be 1000/1000
[12:39] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[12:39] <AussieGuus> Xem: ok i couldn't find the one i was looking for but these are good and more in depth than i could give u http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso.html  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing.html
[12:39] <Ng> spy: does the disc have any spare space on it? if not you'll need to resize your windows partition, but the installer can do that for you
[12:39] <Ng> s/disc/disk/
[12:40] <AussieGuus> Psychocats is full of excellent guides, as is the ubuntu wiki but I can't find what i was looking for
[12:40] <spy> okay and then i would need to add windows boot to grub later on?
[12:40] <peibol_> i need help with one ipod
[12:40] <peibol_> someone can helps me?
[12:40] <peibol_> :)
[12:40] <bigGrim> Ng: gives me a "wrong fs type"
[12:40] <spy> aka ubuntu will overwrite the Master Boot Record??
[12:40] <nox-Hand> =|
[12:40] <bigGrim> Ng: its ntfs
[12:41] <Ng> bigGrim: if it's a remote windows machine the fs type will be smbfs or cifs
[12:41] <nox-Hand> spy, The new Ubuntu does indeed overwrite your MBR
[12:41] <spy> so all i need to do is add an entry to grub after install?
[12:41] <nox-Hand> Hey, any devs in here? I have a thing to tell one of them..
[12:41] <bigGrim> Ng: how do i specify that?
[12:41] <Ng> spy: in theory it should detect windows and put it in the grub menu for you
[12:41] <Ng> bigGrim: -t cifs
[12:42] <spy> okay thanks.... and a quick question: Is ntfs write still experimental a.k.a. unsupported?
[12:42] <jerusalem420> anyone?
[12:42] <Ng> nox-Hand: #ubuntu-devel might be a better place for talking to developers ;)
[12:42] <jerusalem420> please
[12:42] <Ng> spy: yes
[12:42] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[12:42] <spy> thanks guys
[12:42] <nox-Hand> Ng, cheers. Will go and say this >>  The new GUI installer; It overwrites MBR without asking, whereas the old would ask you. I think this is a mistake, as some people might have a bootloader they wish to keep and edit their own conf from their other Linux operating system :P
[12:42] <docta_v> jerusalem420: have to enable the gaim extension for menu bar
[12:42] <bigGrim> Ng: nope both give me the same error
[12:43] <Ng> bigGrim: doh. try "tail -100 /var/log/syslog" - see if it has any relevant errors
[12:43] <Inferus> lo again all ^_^
[12:43] <suppaman> hello
[12:43] <kung> !evdev
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about evdev
[12:44] <kung> stupid ubotu :p
[12:44] <bigGrim> Ng: get a whole lot of mount_data version 191 is not supported
[12:44] <jerusalem420> docat how do i do that?
[12:45] <jerusalem420> docat_v how do i do that?
[12:46] <Xem> thx alot
[12:46] <snedar> does anyone know how to fix this error: "ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored."?
[12:46] <bigGrim> how do i determine my ubuntu version?
[12:47] <bigGrim> i know its older than drapper
[12:47] <compengi> did anyone worked on dvd::rip?
[12:47] <rizo> How do i permanently disable kde processes
[12:47] <rizo> How do i permanently disable kde processes?
[12:47] <neutrinomass> bigGrim: cat /etc/issue :)
[12:48] <bigGrim> breeze badger
[12:49] <bigGrim> -e+y
[12:49] <LGKeiz> ..alright, I'm on windows.
[12:49] <rizo> How do i permanently disable kde processes
[12:49] <LGKeiz> Okay. Does the Desktop CD allow you too install Ubuntu permanently?
[12:49] <AussieGuus> LGKeiz: yes
[12:49] <Azertyuuu> hey all, Is it possible to print a PDF under Wine ? When I print a PDF in Internet Explorer (Wine) I get codes on my paper ???
[12:49] <netantho> LGKeiz => Yes,
[12:49] <LGKeiz> Alright good, but..
[12:50] <runge> hi. is there a dvd-version of ubuntu to download?
[12:50] <LGKeiz> I was on "desktop" just afew minutes ago, and It was complaining about that it can't access my Main HD
[12:50] <LGKeiz> And couldn't write there.
[12:50] <LGKeiz> So..
[12:50] <suppaman> I upgraded xorg-driver-fgl, and I had no more hw acclereation, I then upgraded the kernel and restricted modules to 2.1.6-25 (from -21) but I got a problem with the rd
[12:50] <LGKeiz> Does anyone know a good tool to make another parition
[12:50] <netantho> runge, yes, do you want a torrent to download it ?
[12:50] <extern> I have just updated ubuntu and I can't boot to windows, because the windows boot option got overwritten by ubuntu
[12:50] <bigGrim> howdo i update?
[12:50] <farous> Azertyuuu: strange to run of anything iE under wine in linux. but install kprinter
[12:50] <Archville> Hello.
[12:50] <runge> netantho, yes pease
[12:50] <Archville> How do i change the default music player in gnome ?
[12:51] <Archville> I want the keyboard shortcuts to start amarok instead of rhytmbox.
[12:51] <suppaman> how can I reinstall the initrd ?
[12:51] <Azertyuuu> farous: actually i'm using CrossoverOffice to check my bankaccount
[12:51] <farous> Azertyuuu: yu can not do that in firefox?
[12:51] <extern> how to recover my windowsxp boot information?
[12:51] <Exussum> Hey all - just wondering - why is the sound soo quiet in Ubuntu ? is there any way i can turn it up
[12:52] <Azertyuuu> farous: it requires active X
[12:52] <farous> Azertyuuu: again install kprinter it has an option to print pdf files. and you can choose it from crossover for i use it too
[12:52] <nyarla> comme window manager ultra lger vous me conseilleriez quoi? xfce est trop lourd ici
[12:52] <Exussum> extern - have a look in the boot.ini file in your windows partition
[12:52] <compengi> runge, http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/6.06/release/
[12:52] <extern> Exussum, my windows partition is on ntfs
[12:52] <runge> thanks compengi
[12:52] <Azertyuuu> farous: and what about CUPS ?
[12:52] <extern> I can't read it
[12:53] <Exussum> extern - dapper can read NTFS
[12:53] <compengi> np ;)
[12:53] <stefg> !grub
[12:53] <netantho> runge, do you have a i386 ?
[12:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:53] <AussieGuus> Archville: find a music file, right click > properties > Open with, you can choose another program and make it default
[12:53] <nbjayme> is there a commandline program that allows me to select a region on the screen and give me information on the offsets (X,Y,height,width)?
[12:53] <extern> I tried mounting ntfs, but it couldn't read it
[12:53] <runge> netantho, I got a link from compengi so I am al good :) Thanks for helping!!
[12:53] <nyarla> qqun a test fluxbox?
[12:53] <Archville> AussieGuus: I've tried that, and it opens but.. i don't see any checkbox to make it default or anything
[12:53] <netantho> ok runge
[12:54] <nyarla> oups sorry i mismatch channels
[12:54] <farous> Azertyuuu: there is cups-pdf package it is buggy need reconfiguration. a file of 30kb will be blown to 3-4MB so it is there but i highly do not recommend it
[12:54] <Exussum> extern - have you got any partition managers ?
[12:54] <netantho> nyarla, va sur ubuntu-fr pour l'aide en fr
[12:54] <extern> Exussum, no
[12:54] <extern> I think
[12:54] <extern> anyway
[12:54] <extern> I managed to open that file
[12:54] <suppaman> hi
[12:54] <nyarla> as a (very) light wm what should i pick? xfce too  heavy here? is fluxbox interesting?
[12:54] <suppaman> how can I fix this ?
[12:55] <suppaman> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[12:55] <IRCMonkey> hey when I am connect using Xchat I don't see any caht in my window ??
[12:55] <Exussum> ok then - now open boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:55] <suppaman> I need to have a newer kernel module, right ?
[12:56] <rizo> How do i permanently disable kde processes?
[12:56] <Archville> AussieGuus: ok, found it. Thanks. :)
[12:56] <Archville> My fault.
[12:56] <rizo> How do i permanently disable kde processes?
[12:56] <eegore> I just made a request for a lug pack
[12:56] <rizo> please
[12:56] <Exussum> How can i turn up the volume in Dapper
[12:56] <farous> rizo you want to uninstall it
[12:56] <Archville> Exussum: There is a control in the panel for that.
[12:57] <rizo> no i want to just disable processes like kacpid
[12:57] <Exussum> Archville - its set to 100% on there - but still very quiet
[12:57] <rizo> which i don't need because acpid is running
[12:57] <Exussum> the speakers are fine - in windows the are much louder
[12:57] <Archville> Exussum: Try "alsamixer" from a terminal.
[12:57] <eegore> has anyone worked with VMware in dapper?
[12:57] <Archville> eegore: I usually work with it.
[12:57] <rizo> any idea
[12:57] <rizo> farous?
[12:57] <farous> rizo command line sudo /etc/init.d/kacpid stop
[12:58] <eegore> How well does it install and run?
[12:58] <jerusalem420> how do i enable the gaim extension for the menu bar
[12:58] <extern> title		Windows XP Professional
[12:58] <extern> root		(hd0,0)
[12:58] <extern> makeactive
[12:58] <extern> chainloader	+1
[12:58] <extern> boot
[12:58] <farous> rizo: there is an option in system also to check running processes and to stop them
[12:58] <tmn_> Can someone help me with this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202960
[12:58] <extern> is this good?
[12:58] <tmn_> :)
[12:58] <rizo> yes but when i restart would it start up agian
[12:58] <Archville> eegore: It is easy to setup.
[12:58] <eegore> stable?
[12:58] <Archville> You just need to have your kernel sources.
[12:58] <Archville> On /usr/src
[12:58] <jerusalem420> how do i enable the gaim extension for the menu bar anyone?
[12:58] <jerusalem420> please
[12:58] <farous> rizo for the command line yap do not know how to do it permenant
[12:58] <Archville> Everything else is done by the installation script.
[12:59] <nekostar> hmm
[12:59] <farous> rizo: yet why not uninstall if yo do not need it
[12:59] <eegore> so then get the development packages for the kernel then right?
[12:59] <vasc> tmn, e.g. type "export LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1" before running aterm
[12:59] <Archville> eegore: I would say... it runs very good, but still not stable.
[12:59] <rizo> how do i unistall it?
[12:59] <vasc> tmn_, e.g. type "export LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1" before running aterm
[12:59] <Archville> For me it crashes sometimes.
[12:59] <tmn_> vasc, ok,, thanks.. I'll try :)
[12:59] <Archville> Specially if i'm using Xgl\Compiz.
[12:59] <farous> apt-get remove packgename
[01:00] <eegore> I have noticed it is a resource hog unless you have sufficient memory to support it
[01:00] <jimcooncat> I've messed up my nautilus, desktop, and trash can icons. How to restore in Breezy? Themes applet doesn't do it
[01:00] <rizo> but it comes with kde so would i have to remove kde?
[01:00] <farous> rizo: or use synaptic a nice graphical user interface
[01:00] <eth42> after installing dapper on my laptop, I had a battery indicator in the notification area. now it is gone. how do I get it back?
[01:00] <farous> rizo no
[01:00] <Archville> I have 1 GB, it runs nice.
[01:00] <Exussum> thanks archville - that worked
[01:00] <Archville> Except for that crashes.
[01:00] <Archville> :)
[01:00] <farous> rizo: you are just removind the daemon
[01:00] <Minty> just testing
[01:01] <eegore> I have only a single core 2ghz proc, and it is a little on the slow side even with a gig
[01:01] <rizo> i can't find it in synaptic
[01:01] <farous> rizo: are you sure it is a kde package
[01:01] <rizo> yes
[01:01] <farous> rizo i remember faguly that kacpi is a kernel package
[01:01] <void^> kacpid is a kernel thread
[01:01] <eegore> I am considering if I should invest in a dual core proc for better threading
[01:01] <Archville> eth42: click with the secondary mouse button on the gnome panel you want the battery indicator and select "Add to this panel"
[01:02] <farous> yap it is not kde thing
[01:02] <jimcooncat> eegore, you sure that's your bottleneck?
[01:02] <farous> thanx void
[01:02] <jimcooncat> eegore, not your hd or network?
[01:02] <Archville> eegore: mine is a 1.7 Ghz
[01:02] <rizo> what about khelper
[01:02] <eth42> Archville: yes, but the applet has less functionality, hasn't it?
[01:02] <rizo> ??
[01:02] <Archville> eth42: well... never used the applet, i don't have a laptop
[01:02] <gdb> eth42: That *is* the batter indicator.
[01:02] <gdb> battery*
[01:02] <Archville> so i don't know
[01:03] <eegore> Right now it is running on a copy of open suse, I am on my warty boot now because it is starting to hang on me
[01:03] <rizo> i cab't even find khelper in synaptic
[01:03] <gdb> rizo: click Search then ;-)
[01:03] <farous> rizo if you run kde appl you will need it
[01:03] <eth42> gdb: I had the battery indicator applet running + a battery indicator in the notification area
[01:03] <jerusalem420> how do i enable the gaim extension for the menu bar anyone?
[01:03] <eth42> gdb: the one in the notification area had detailed settings for powersaving
[01:03] <void^> khelper is a kernel thread which is used for making calls out to userspace applications from within the kernel
[01:04] <eegore> I notice an exceptional lag in some virtual machines
[01:04] <farous> oonce again thanx void^
[01:04] <gdb> eth42: ah, i see
[01:04] <farous> mistaken it with something else
[01:04] <rizo> how about kgameportd i don't think i need that
[01:04] <eegore> Usually anytime acceleration is required
[01:04] <jrib> jerusalem420: is "system tray icon" what you mean?
[01:05] <rizo> also the nice value for these processes are high priority so they eat up cpu cycles
[01:05] <void^> rizo: why are you interested in disabling such threads?
[01:06] <rizo> they eat up cpu cycles
[01:06] <rizo> when i stop them cpu retuns to normal
[01:06] <void^> and your system breaks
[01:06] <rizo> no
[01:06] <rizo> works better
[01:07] <jerusalem420> i duuno jrib
[01:07] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[01:07] <rizo> thats why i permanently want to disable them
[01:07] <void^> rizo: you'd have to disable acpi, the gameport etc.
[01:08] <rizo> how?
[01:08] <jerusalem420> jrib, anyone?
[01:08] <jerusalem420> i changed something and now when ever i hit the X box in gaim, instead of minimizing to the menu bar, it closes.How do I fix this?
[01:08] <Exussum> How can i find the packages that automatix has installed ?
[01:08] <jrib> jerusalem420: one second, let me check something :)
[01:08] <eth42> gdb: ok, the notification area battery status monitor started the power management preferences that are also available in Preferences / Power Management
[01:08] <Frogzoo> has anyone managed to get qemu .8.1's networking to work with vde?
[01:08] <jerusalem420> thanks man
[01:08] <void^> rizo: either recompile the kernel, or boot with noacpi and blac klist any modules.. not sure really, it's a lot of work to workaround a problem
[01:09] <jrib> Exussum: reading the source, posting on the forum automatix thread, or amybe the automatix channel
[01:09] <solsTiCe> hwo to search which file is isntalled by a package ? i.e how to use dpkg apt and friends ? i wanted to know if .abshrc in /root is the same as the one in /etc/skel
[01:09] <gdb> eth42: Well, I'm not sure if the standard battery applet does that or not as I'm not on a laptop and it doesn't seem to start it on this machine, but that doesn't mean anything, again, because it's not a laptop. ;-)
[01:09] <rolf> !w32codecs
[01:09] <rizo> is there no script like macro i could write to disable them at each boot
[01:09] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[01:09] <Exussum> k thanks
[01:10] <eth42> gdb: yes, sure. :)
[01:10] <rizo> write a script and launch it each time to stop the services
[01:10] <void^> rizo: e.g., you can add the gameport module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:11] <jrib> jerusalem420: go to preferences > plugins > and enable "system tray icon"
[01:11] <NoNo_231> j #ubuntu-gr
[01:11] <void^> rizo: you can disable acpi by adding noacpi to the kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:11] <void^> rizo: (this will cost you a lot of functionality)
[01:11] <farous> rizo: are you sure it is not your wm.
[01:12] <void^> rizo: again, all this will only workaround another problem; those threads don't usually eat any cpu cycles unless they have a proper reason to do so.
[01:12] <rizo> no i use gnome
[01:12] <farous> first time i hear they eat cpu
[01:12] <jerusalem420> thanks jrib
[01:12] <farous> rizo: install a lighter wm and you will feal the diff i run fluxbox here
[01:13] <farous> rizo my cpu hits 2% at max :)
[01:13] <rizo> i also have xfce
[01:13] <nekostar> when running two x servers there is no way to take a screenshot of both into one png is there
[01:13] <nekostar> :/
[01:14] <rizo> thansk for your help farous and void^
[01:15] <jrib> nekostar: you can probably do some scripting that could do it for you
[01:16] <nekostar> fat chance lol
[01:16] <mdupont_> hi all
[01:16] <nekostar> i dont even know how to merge two pics atm
[01:16] <farous>  nekostar gim?
[01:16] <mdupont_> i need some help, I have a new system running, but the ssh server is failling
[01:16] <mdupont_> where can i look for the start up error log
[01:16] <farous> nekostar: i use to do it easily in adobephotoshop
[01:16] <nekostar> on linux ?
[01:16] <mdupont_> /etc/init.d/ssh start fails
[01:16] <extern> can someone name one file archiver?
[01:17] <farous> nekostar: nope. but it run onwine
[01:17] <extern> I need to extract .deb file
[01:17] <nekostar> eh
[01:17] <jerusalem420> jrib, its enabled (the system tray icon) but gaim is still closing. DO I need to modify someething on the panel? I deleted my panel and had to reset it up, which is when my problems with gaim closing started
[01:17] <nekostar> i dont feel like installing a cracked ps
[01:17] <jrib> extern: dpkg can do that
[01:17] <farous> nekostar: they say gimp is the linux equivalent
[01:17] <extern> thx
[01:17] <odinriko> Is there a non kde xmame frontend in the repository?
[01:18] <jrib> jerusalem420: hmm all I did was enable the plugin.  Are you using the gaim that came with dapper?
[01:19] <jrib> jerusalem420: does the gaim icon show up in the tray when you enable it?
[01:19] <jerusalem420> no
[01:19] <jerusalem420> do i have to add the traty in some way?
[01:20] <gridblock> How do i playback dvds? and where do i find the plugin i need to install?
[01:20] <mdupont_> ok it has been solved via a reinstall of ssh
[01:20] <mdupont_> sorry
[01:20] <jrib> jerusalem420: add "notification area"
[01:21] <jerusalem420> thanks
[01:21] <jerusalem420> that did it
[01:21] <jerusalem420> sheesh
[01:21] <jrib> !dvd
[01:21] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:22] <jerusalem420> peace all. and thanks again jrib
[01:22] <Awesome-o2000> jerusalem420, i love your name.
[01:22] <Awesome-o2000> lol
[01:22] <vlt> Hello. I have GRUB installed on /dev/hda and now want to install it to /dev/hdc to make that bootable. I tried "grub-install /dev/hdc" but I get "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." The file is readable and is trhe same as on another machine. I think grub-install tries to read from /dev/hda which just failed. Ho wto install GRUB to /dev/hdc?
[01:23] <mdupont_> is there a standard firewall installed on ubuntu?
[01:23] <kebe> anybody can help with compiz ? i
[01:23] <mdupont_> how can i debug connecting to a port
[01:24] <jrib> !xgl
[01:24] <blenda> hi! i want to use tune2fs on my root partition. i'm using lvm, so how can i found out wich device to run the command on?
[01:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:24] <kebe> i've already read howto's
[01:24] <eth42> mdupont_: ubuntu doesn't install a firewall by default
[01:24] <mdupont_> good
[01:24] <mdupont_> can you please check this machine
[01:24] <mdupont_>  84.57.240.1
[01:24] <jrib> !firewall
[01:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:24] <kebe> jrib i've already read howto's...
[01:24] <mdupont_> is that an ubuntu?
[01:24] <eth42> mdupont_: but you can install shorewall for example (I think this is quite easy to configure)
[01:25] <mdupont_> i just cannot get in
[01:25] <Awesome-o2000> firestarter is a great tool - I havent messed with shorewall yet
[01:25] <mdupont_> debug1: Connecting to 84.57.240.1 [84.57.240.1]  port 22.
[01:25] <jrib> kebe: k, I don't know much about it, but maybe someone else can help if you let the room know exactly what problem you are having
[01:25] <jrib> mdupont_: you want to ssh?
[01:25] <gridblock> i didnt find libdvdcss
[01:25] <eth42> Awesome-o2000: I think it is quite easy. though I didn't know there is a web interface for shorewall
[01:26] <mdupont_> yes
[01:26] <jrib> mdupont_: have you installed openssh-server?
[01:26] <mdupont_> yes
[01:26] <mdupont_> my client can connect to localhost with ssh
[01:26] <jrib> mdupont_: behind a router?
[01:26] <mdupont_> so, that is the ip that route  displays
[01:26] <mdupont_> i can ping it
[01:27] <jrib> gridblock: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:27] <gridblock> yeah. do i add them in repositoaries?
[01:27] <gridblock> or what its called ^^
[01:28] <delcoyote> hi all to use nfs, i need a server and a client?
[01:28] <jrib> gridblock: yeah, add the section that has dvdcss
[01:29] <perrupa> hey guys, new install of dapper and Gnome will log out after 30 minutes or so of inactivity. I was wondering where the setting for this is as I haven't found it in power management or screensavers
[01:29] <JohnnyX> my laptop feels like its overheating, is there anything i can do to help it?
[01:29] <mdupont_> what is a good portscanner for the command line?
[01:29] <Mitzi> vacuum out the cooling slots
[01:30] <jrib> gridblock: extras has dvdcss, you can see here: http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/extras/
[01:30] <jrib> mdupont_: nmap
[01:30] <farous> JohnnyX: install sensors-applet will tell you the temp. you might need to change powernowd mode to a more thermal friendly one like mode 2
[01:30] <mdupont_> jrib, thanks
[01:31] <kebe> I've got popular "No GLXFBConfig for default depth" problem when running Compiz. I've already copied mesa library to /usr/lib/mesa/ . After that i've installed ATI drivers. When i run Compiz, my script preloads mesa library but Compiz isn't starting and it laks on "No GLXFBConfig for default depth". Anybowy can help ?
[01:31] <mdupont_> All 1672 scanned ports on dslb-084-057-240-001.pools.arcor-ip.net (84.57.240.1) are: filtered
[01:32] <mdupont_> looks like iptables
[01:32] <mdupont_> or ipchains
[01:32] <extern> what does "rc" stand for?
[01:32] <Snellgrove> release candidate?
[01:33] <jrib> mdupont_: well you could check with 'sudo iptables -L' but ubuntu doesn't have any set by default I believe
[01:34] <vlt> Anyone here to help me with grub-install?
[01:35] <perrupa> hey guys, new install of dapper and Gnome will log out after 30 minutes or so of inactivity. I was wondering where the setting for this is as I haven't found it in power management or screensavers
[01:36] <Ubuntnoob> would anyone be able to help me with removing my windows partition ?
[01:37] <goblimey> vlt just a suggestion, you might want to investigate supergrub boot disk
[01:37] <blenda> Ubuntnoob: try fdisk or cfdisk
[01:37] <Ubuntnoob> blenda: but wont grub get messed up ?
[01:38] <blenda> Ubuntnoob: just remove that entry from the grub config?
[01:38] <Ubuntnoob> hmm ok, how do i open grub config?
[01:38] <Ubuntnoob> surely i can remove that first?
[01:38] <br0nka> hola
[01:38] <br0nka> root@com1:~/Desktop# dpkg -i tzdata_2006g-2_all.deb
[01:39] <br0nka> (Leyendo la base de datos ...
[01:39] <br0nka> 85054 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
[01:39] <br0nka> Desempaquetando tzdata (de tzdata_2006g-2_all.deb) ...
[01:39] <br0nka> dpkg: error al procesar tzdata_2006g-2_all.deb (--install):
[01:39] <br0nka>  intentando sobreescribir `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', que est tambin en el paquete locales
[01:39] <br0nka> dpkg-deb: el subproceso paste fue terminado por la seal (Broken pipe)
[01:39] <br0nka> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[01:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell br0nka about paste
[01:39] <br0nka>  tzdata_2006g-2_all.deb
[01:39] <br0nka> porque me pasa eso?
[01:39] <br0nka> uso ubuntu drapper
[01:39] <jrib> br0nka: please don't paste here
[01:39] <jrib> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <blenda> Ubuntnoob: i don't know, check the documentation
[01:39] <gdb> Ubuntnoob: You want to delete Windows from your machine?
[01:39] <Ubuntnoob> yes
[01:40] <br0nka> ubotu, thank you and sorry
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you and sorry
[01:40] <br0nka> jrib, sorry for paste here
[01:40] <gdb> Ubuntnoob: System -> Administration -> Disks, then select the disk, tab to Partitions, select the partition, and delete it.
[01:40] <blenda> br0nka: ubuto is not a human :)
[01:40] <br0nka> oh, you're a bot hehehhee
[01:40] <br0nka> blenda, I see :D hehehhehehe+
[01:40] <Ubuntnoob> uhuh
[01:40] <gdb> Ubuntnoob: Alternatively, you can $ sudo fdisk /dev/yourdiskdevice and delete it that way.
[01:41] <Ubuntnoob> i understand that bit
[01:41] <Ubuntnoob> its grub
[01:42] <finalbeta_> Anyone knows a client that can connect to a windows remote desktop (terminal service). The default client in ubuntu gives a bad image. And since I sometimes work on it for houres...
[01:42] <mdupont_> thanks for the help
[01:42] <mdupont_> all works now
[01:43] <gdb> Ubuntnoob: You'll edit /boot/grub/menu.list and simply remove the Windows entry.
[01:43] <gdb> er
[01:43] <gdb> menu.lst
[01:43] <cwillu> finalbeta_: client or frontend?
[01:43] <Ubuntnoob> hmm ok
[01:43] <gdb> finalbeta_: bad image?
[01:44] <Ubuntnoob> gdb: can i remove the entry before deleting? or comment it out ?
[01:44] <finalbeta_> gdb low quality. and I can't get it good.
[01:44] <gdb> finalbeta_:  If you mean "looks like crap" then you need to configure the desktop size and color depth prior to connecting.  It's on the other tabs of the client software.
[01:44] <gdb> Ubuntnoob: yes, you can
[01:44] <Ubuntnoob> ok
[01:44] <mdupont_> so, now i am connected to my friend, she is a new linux convert and her sound does not work again
[01:44] <Ubuntnoob> ty gdb
[01:44] <gdb> Ubuntnoob: sure thing :-)
[01:45] <mdupont_> how can i reconfigure sound like alsaconf from the command line?
[01:45] <finalbeta_> gdb , I've set it all to max. I'll try again
[01:45] <gdb> finalbeta_: I'd suggest 15 bit color depth.
[01:45] <finalbeta_> gdb , it's a local lan.
[01:45] <gdb> finalbeta_: That's enough colors that you won't be able to tell the difference from 16 bit and avoids any possible conflicts with your local color pallette.
[01:46] <mnk> hello all i just install proftpd but the silly thing won't let ANYTHING in. the logs just show that each connextion is getting denied.can anyone help pls?
[01:46] <gdb> finalbeta_: I'm not suggesting 15 bit color depth for performance reasons.
[01:46] <finalbeta_> gdb, indeed, it works now, thnx, I was trying 24 bit. Seems that was wrong.
[01:47] <gdb> finalbeta_: It's likely that the color pallettes between the client and the X server were slightly different resulting in a "rainbow" effect for your client login.  You might bump it to 16 bit and see if that works, too, I use 15 bit myself.  And sure thing. :-)
[01:47] <sgleo87> how do I delete empty genres in the amarok playlists
[01:47] <IRCMonkey> woah using chatzilla isnt so hard :D
[01:47] <finalbeta_> gdb, makes sense :), thnx.
[01:48] <mnk> hello all i just install proftpd but the silly thing won't let ANYTHING in. the logs just show that each connextion is getting denied.can anyone help pls?
[01:49] <sgleo87> how do I delete empty genres in the amarok playlist menu
[01:50] <mwe> mnk: what log is showing access denied? is proftp denying access or is it iptables?
[01:50] <nbt> what's the default kernel version in ubuntu 6.1 ?
[01:50] <mnk> mwe: Jun 25 14:45:07 mnk-home proftpd[10974]  mnk-home.odsplus.net (127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] ): Connection from 127.0.0.1 [127.0.0.1]  denied.
[01:50] <Minty> If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>, anyone know how I can get my password as I have lost it ??
[01:51] <gdb> nbt: 6.06 and the default installed kernel is 2.6.15-23, the current kernel (after a system update) is 2.6.15-25.
[01:51] <mwe> mnk: well it's proftpd that's denying it. paste the config file on paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[01:52] <zegnus> anybody have audigy player with surround 5.1 playing ? asoundrc configuration file ?
[01:52] <gdb> nbt: While the -XX number may change, the base kernel will always be 2.6.15.
[01:52] <nbt> thx but i've a prlbem
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Minty: check the freenode FAQ at freenode.com for that
[01:52] <nbt> booting th elive cd outputs a black screen (after the ok o k ok msges)
[01:52] <pianoboy3333> What is the homepage is for gset-compiz? I can't seem to be able to find it on google.
[01:52] <kebe> lol :D
[01:52] <nbt> but i hear the startup music
[01:53] <nbt> i'v e an acer 1692wlmi
[01:53] <nbt> with ati x700
[01:53] <crocd> it might be a resolution issue
[01:53] <crocd> i had it with my desktop not outputting to screen when starting up
[01:53] <gdb> nbt: Unfortunately, if your video isn't working with the Desktop CD, all I can suggest is a text install using the Alternatives CD.  I don't believe there is facility for tweaking video settings using the live CD.
[01:54] <crocd> i had to manually enter a value
[01:54] <pianoboy3333> kebe: well... I gotta keep tryin
[01:54] <Minty> thanks Hobbsee
[01:54] <eegore> Archville: pulling the home directory out of suse, after this grief with broken apps
[01:54] <nbt> so  <crocd> there's a way ?
[01:54] <mnk> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16428
[01:54] <sgleo87> how do I delete empty genres in the amarok playlist menu
[01:55] <funkmaster> hey ppl, how can i get the sound working on *.3gp files?
[01:55] <eegore> also pulling the virtual machines
[01:56] <eegore> oh to have a 20TB storage array
[01:56] <mnk> mwe: any luck?
[01:57] <pekay> d of hangover
[01:57] <pekay> oops w/w >.>
[01:57] <Lord-ChewY> is there anyway i can swith to x86 from amd64 while keeping my /home directory?
[01:57] <dragoon> tar it up and burn it to dvd or something
[01:58] <Lord-ChewY> dragoon what is some good backup software
[01:58] <Lord-ChewY> that can use a dvd burner
[01:58] <nbt> someone with a notebook and ati x700 video card ?
[01:58] <mnk> u there mwe ?
[01:58] <dragoon> Lord-ChewY: just tar it up and burn it as a data dvd
[01:58] <eegore> I am still a little nervous about going 64 bit yet with the issues of app compatibility
[01:58] <Lord-ChewY> dragoon can tars be split up into 4.5 gig files?
[01:58] <funkmaster> is there a command in ubuntu/linux to see which devices, in this case soundcards, have which names? i need to know the audio device name of my 2nd soundcard...
[01:59] <dragoon> Lord-ChewY: yea
[01:59] <dragoon> funkmaster: lspci will tell you
[01:59] <eegore> lsmod?
[01:59] <eegore> thats modules, sorry
 is there anyway i can swith to x86 from amd64 while keeping my /home directory?
[02:00] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: Is your /home on a separate partition?
[02:00] <thirdalbum> I have a quick question: I have an AMD Sempron 3200+, currently running the 386 kernel. Is there a more appropriate kernel for me to use, and if so what is it?
[02:00] <funkmaster> dragoon: i tried that already, but it does not show the auddio device name i format of /dev/xxx that's whati need to know...
[02:00] <Lord-ChewY> gdb no
[02:00] <blakkino> what would be the problem?
[02:00] <Lord-ChewY> gdb but i might be next time =)
[02:00] <Lord-ChewY> it might be*
[02:00] <mjr> Lord-ChewY, mv your /home (or all of the previous install) under some directory like /old, delete the rest, install on the partition without reformatting. Be careful. Backup the data if possible.
[02:00] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: Ah, yes, then backing it up somewhere is your only option.  hehe I hope that it is!
[02:00] <ylmz> hello
[02:00] <mnk> hello all i just install proftpd but the silly thing won't let ANYTHING in. the logs just show that each connextion is getting denied.can anyone help pls?
[02:01] <mnk> here is my proftpd conf file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16428
[02:01] <Lord-ChewY> mjr ya thats what i was thinking, wiping everything but home with "rm -r"
[02:01] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: Do you have another machine handy?  What I'd do is tar up /home and scp it over to my Windows machine, reinstall, then scp it back.
[02:01] <Lord-ChewY> gdb thats actually a great idea, i only need about 4 gigs
[02:01] <blakkino> thirdalbum, if the cpu is 64bit, then running it in i386 mode decrease performance a lot.. on some apps i have tested this is about 30%
[02:02] <Lord-ChewY> gdb now that i think about it, i dont even need to tar up the dvd
[02:02] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: You may need to tar it up in chunks then.  Just to ensure you don't exceed a 2GB filesize limit somewhere (not that you will, but it pays to be careful).
[02:02] <Lord-ChewY> gdb just gotta burn the 3.6 gigs
[02:02] <thirdalbum> blakkino, it's a 32bit CPU
[02:02] <mjr> Lord-ChewY, it would work, yes.
[02:02] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: :-)
[02:02] <Lord-ChewY> and yeah, i got about 40 dvds so no big deal
[02:02] <gdb> I insist on /home being on a mirrored device in my machine so it's always a separate partition. ;-)
[02:03] <Lord-ChewY> im just so sick of nothing working on amd64
[02:03] <ylmz> how can i enable fn key?
[02:03] <ylmz> on my nootebook
[02:04] <gdb> Lord-ChewY:  That's a sentiment I can understand.  Until 64 bit computing is more "mainstream" I think that's a problem that will continue.
[02:04] <blakkino> Lord-ChewY, "nothing working"?
[02:05] <gdb> blakkino: He's likely referring to things like video drivers, firefox plugins, and any other commerical/proprietary software he'd like to use that either a.) doesn't work, b.) is a pain in the butt to get working.
[02:05] <blakkino> maybe flash.. but i can live without it.. oo is already installed in 32bit mode on ubuntu..
[02:05] <gdb> Whereas on 32 bit Linux, it all works out of the box.
[02:05] <Lord-ChewY> blakkino: well there is no wine binarys for it, source wont compile cause of a problime with binutils, quake4 needs a 32 bit driver, so does quake3
[02:05] <Lord-ChewY> blakkino: no flash for firefox64
[02:05] <funkmaster> how to enable sound in *3gp media files?
[02:06] <blakkino> Lord-ChewY, if you take a 32bit binary version of wine probably it will work
[02:06] <extern> how to install and use nautilus scripts?
[02:06] <blakkino> i use cedega 32bit and i play lots of games :)
[02:06] <blakkino> nvidia drivers work support 32bit too
[02:06] <MistaED> Lord-ChewY: edgy eft will have multiarch support afaik, so it will be less of a headache
[02:06] <mjr> gdb, I settle for raid-5 ;)
[02:06] <Lord-ChewY> mistaED how is it right now? thats in testing right
[02:06] <mjr> (encrypted raid-5 to be exact)
[02:07] <blakkino> Lord-ChewY, "there is no wine binarys for it" <- but amd64 is binary compatibile with i386 ;)
[02:07] <MistaED> because suse/redhat/fedora have better 32-bit backwards compatibility than ubuntu/debian atm
[02:07] <mnk> mwe: here is my proftpd conf file:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16428
[02:07] <gdb> mjr: I find RAID5 anathema.  If it's 2 disks, it's RAID1, if it's more than 2 disks, it's RAID0+1.
[02:07] <Lord-ChewY> blakkino: i tried cedega, didn't mount the cdrom
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Lord-ChewY: its broken
[02:07] <MistaED> Lord-ChewY: i haven't got any details on it yet, but i'm hoping it will come out with edgy eft
[02:08] <Lord-ChewY> blakkino: put in my guild wars cd and cedega couldn't pick it up
[02:08] <gdb> Then again, I don't know how well Linux supports raid10, as I've never used it under Linux, only Solaris and IRIX.
[02:08] <Lord-ChewY> there is really little advantage to amd64 anyway
[02:08] <blakkino> Lord-ChewY, can't understand. you must mount the cd and start the setup :>
[02:08] <BCK14> blakkino: did you pay for cedega ?
[02:08] <blakkino> then if the game can't find the cd then patch it with a no-cd
[02:09] <mnk> hello all i just install proftpd but the silly thing won't let ANYTHING in. the logs just show that each connextion is getting denied.can anyone help pls?
[02:09] <usama> hi all
[02:09] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: There is really no advantage to it other than having a huge address space that you likely don't need on any server short of one modeling the weather or atomic explosions or the like.
[02:09] <blakkino> BCK14, i have an old version
[02:09] <BCK14> are there free versions ?
[02:09] <Lord-ChewY> gdb: yeah mabie in the future we will need more than 4gb
[02:09] <Lord-ChewY> gdb: old billy thought we only need 640k ram back in the 80s
[02:09] <Stromham> yes i have my wireless card finaly working!
[02:09] <blakkino> BCK14, some times ago there was free versions..
[02:09] <Stromham> it was a pain in the butt
[02:09] <Lord-ChewY> gdb: yeah but as of right now, no point
[02:09] <blakkino> from cvs..
[02:09] <Minty> can anyone help me finf my password as can see how where to trevie it from even thru the forums
[02:10] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: Well, I won't make the mistake of saying "640KB is enough for everyone!" but I will say that 4GB is more than enough for everyone for the forseeable future.
[02:10] <Lord-ChewY> btw is wine comparable to cedega now
[02:10] <Lord-ChewY> i hear it has a dx9 implamentation
[02:10] <Stromham> hey dose ubuntu and gnome support opengl?
[02:10] <gdb> Lord-ChewY: Granted, some of the machines I have at work have 6BG but they work on very sparse in memory arrays that require that much address space.  But my PC here at home doesn't to run Samba, play music, and surf the web. :-P
[02:11] <MistaED> gdb: although people have been struggling with vista and 1gb ram for running anything other than the OS, although they could be just saying that because it's windows *shrugs*
[02:11] <Lord-ChewY> gdb: yeah, im only using this thing for that, gaming, and a better dev environment than doze
[02:12] <Lord-ChewY> gdb: gtk2+ looks much better than winapi
[02:12] <Stromham> lord-chewy: what language do you program in?
[02:12] <Lord-ChewY> C/C++
[02:12] <Lord-ChewY> im not very good though
[02:12] <anilruby> can I install Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD from my current Ubuntu 5.10 like "apt-get install ..." such
[02:12] <gdb> MistaED: Until Vista is gold, it's going to be clogged with a lot of debugging code.  So I won't say "because it's Windows" but rather "because it's not in release". ;-)  But yeah, I'd expect that 2GB will be the "sweet spot" for Vista regardless.  And not because of address space, but because of bloat.
[02:12] <anilruby> can I install Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD from my current Ubuntu 5.10 like "apt-get update ..." such
[02:12] <Banana> How does apple manage to achieve similar graphics to Vista, while running on 800mhz PC's with 384mb of ram?
[02:12] <Lord-ChewY> took a few courses in college, got As, but thats not saying much
[02:12] <Lord-ChewY> reading K&R right now
[02:13] <usama> http://pastebin.ca/71189 <-- here is my /etc/apt/source.list file, when i apt-get update, it says that there is a duplicate entry, can you tell me that which line i should delete?
[02:13] <Stromham> lord-chewy: im doing c/c++ and learning c# c.net 2.0 and asp.net 2.0
[02:13] <Banana> Vista needing 2GB is a sure sign of bloatware
[02:13] <Banana> Vista represents the common america: fat
[02:13] <Lord-ChewY> stromham, coo, i plan on picking up html/php/mysql too
[02:13] <Stromham> banana: well yea did you see all of the usless eye candy it has?
[02:13] <Lord-ChewY> and javascript
[02:13] <Banana> OS X represents to common 3rd world country
[02:13] <Banana> poor, and light weight
[02:13] <Banana> Stromham, Vista or OSX
[02:14] <Lord-ChewY> another big reason im using  nix over doze, much better web server
[02:14] <Stromham> lord-chewy: yea i got that down already, if you need any help i would be more than happy to help
[02:14] <Stromham> banana: vista
[02:14] <Lord-ChewY> recommend any books?
[02:14] <Banana> both are loaded with  useless eye candy
[02:14] <Banana> but one is 1/10th of the size
[02:14] <Banana> meh
[02:14] <Snellgrove> Generally speaking, how stable are the composite managers & XGL / Compiz these days?
[02:14] <Banana> I better take my Applefanboyism elsewhere before I'm kicked :p
[02:14] <Snellgrove> tempted to get it all going again on my PC :)
[02:15] <Stromham> lord-chewy: yes the teach yourself in 24 hours are a good serious i learned java and jsp from it
[02:15] <BCK14> lol Banana
[02:15] <Stromham> lol i love these mac commercials they are hurting m$ bad i think.
[02:15] <eegore> Banana: actually there is a version of uby for mac as well
[02:16] <usama> can anyone help me about duplicate line in source.list
[02:16] <sgleo87> how do I delete empty genres in the amarok playlist menu
[02:16] <Snellgrove> yeah, what's wrong usama
[02:16] <Stromham> banana: lol, also how good dose windows run on mac?
[02:16] <eegore> At least you won't be fighting false DRM issues
[02:16] <Snellgrove> if there's a duplicated line I suspect you can probably just remove the 2nd one...?
[02:16] <Stromham> lol
[02:17] <usama> Snellgrove, http://pastebin.ca/71189  can you see this
[02:17] <Stromham> paste the code and i will tell you what to delete
[02:17] <Snellgrove> but make sure it is actually the very same thing, and not just something slightly different.. as they can look very similar in the sources.list file
[02:17] <usama> Snellgrove, apt-get update says that there is any duplicate line
[02:17] <Snellgrove> I'll have a look, hang on
[02:17] <usama> Snellgrove, can you tell me that which line i should delete?
[02:17] <Snellgrove> ok I can see it
[02:17] <Snellgrove> let me have a look through it :)
[02:18] <usama> Snellgrove, ok :)
[02:18] <Stromham> i did not see any duplicates
[02:18] <Snellgrove> hmm, can't see any :)
[02:18] <Snellgrove> but I suggest upgrading from Hoary Hedgehog :D
[02:18] <animato> hello, anyway i can completely get rid of "recent documents" in the "places" menu? if i remember it right, there's a way of disabling it
[02:18] <pekay> !gdm
[02:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about gdm
[02:18] <animato> !gdm
[02:18] <Snellgrove> what error are you getting, usama
[02:18] <graveson> how can i figure out if i have a gigabit ethernet adapter or not and whether my DSL router supports this ?
[02:19] <subwoof3r> lo all
[02:19] <pekay> how can I change my GDM theme?
[02:19] <usama> Snellgrove, lemme paste the error also :)
[02:19] <animato> pekay
[02:19] <Snellgrove> pekay:  go into term and type gdm-config I think
[02:19] <Snellgrove> you can select new GDM themes :)
[02:19] <animato> system->amdin->login window
[02:19] <pekay> cool cheers
[02:19] <Snellgrove> or that lol
[02:19] <Stromham> lol
[02:20] <pekay> aha didnt see it in the menu lol
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[02:20] <usama> Snellgrove, now there are some other errors, i am pasting them all
[02:20] <Snellgrove> ok that's fine :)
[02:20] <Snellgrove> just don't paste terminal output in here, it generally gets you kicked lol. pastebin seems cool though, heard about it the other day but never used it until now :)
[02:21] <Snellgrove> can handle absurdly large pastes can't it, or something?
[02:21] <Hexidigital_> yes
[02:22] <graveson> how can i figure out if i have a gigabit ethernet adapter or not and whether my DSL router supports this ?
[02:22] <mnk> hello all i just install proftpd but the silly thing won't let ANYTHING in. the logs just show that each connextion is getting denied.can anyone help pls?
[02:22] <Snellgrove> graveson:  I suspect the easiest way is not by Ubuntu, but to look at the manual for your motherboard / ethernet card and your router :)
[02:22] <MadMerC> hi ppls how do i find out the ip of someone conected to my pc ???
[02:23] <Snellgrove> have a google, graveson if you have the model numbers or whatever :)
[02:24] <eegore> is there an improved nvidia script in dapper
[02:24] <Stromham> hmmm i would say look at hardware in the control panel but that only works in windows :P
[02:24] <pekay> !X11
[02:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:25] <usama> Snellgrove, http://pastebin.ca/71195
[02:25] <eegore> !nvidia
[02:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <MadMerC> how do i find the ip of someone who is remotely logged into my pc ????
[02:26] <Snellgrove> hmmmm @ usama !  strange.    not on a wireless connection are you?
[02:26] <Snellgrove> does it always error on this same package?
[02:26] <Stromham> madmerc: your machine is safe you have to open the ports for someone to get on your computer
[02:26] <ferreus> Hello, i'm missing lot's of developer's man pages on latest ubuntu disk. for example there's no "man syslog" and etc
[02:27] <Stromham> usama: what wifi card are you installing
[02:27] <ferreus> i want to work on ubuntu linux
[02:27] <MadMerC> no my mate is logged into my pc with SSH but i wanna know how to find his ip out
[02:27] <usama> Snellgrove, no i am on dialup
[02:27] <usama> Stromham, no nothing
[02:28] <Lord-ChewY> you'd think that doubling a cpu's registers would make a difference
[02:28] <gdb> MadMerC: Open a terminal and run 'w'
[02:28] <Lord-ChewY> yet amd64 is no better
[02:28] <jrib> ferreus: you need manpages-dev
[02:28] <neopsyche> anyone home?
[02:28] <ferreus> Thank's alot
[02:28] <gdb> I'm listening to the Ubuntu podcast thinggy and I'm surprised that they're mispronouncing it.
[02:29] <Snellgrove> hmm so goes wrong at a random point during this, usama?
[02:29] <Snellgrove> how is it pronounced, gdb ?  I never know lol
[02:29] <neopsyche> hmm #javascript seems quiet
[02:29] <Stromham> gdb: is it a pocast to do with ubuntu? if so can i get the url?
[02:29] <usama> Snellgrove, sorry?
[02:29] <Snellgrove> I generally pronounce it "ubuntoo"
[02:29] <jrib> !pronounce
[02:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu is pronounced "oo-BOON-too"  See http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[02:29] <Snellgrove> ah
[02:29] <Snellgrove> usama:  does it always go wrong at the same point, or anywhere during the apt-get update?
[02:29] <Stromham> i think its u boo tuu thats how i say it
[02:29] <gdb> It's not "oo-BUN-too" it's "oo-BOON-too" -- not only is this documented in the help files, it's also pronouced properly by Tim Modise in the "Experience ubuntu.ogg" video on the installed system.
[02:30] <gdb> Well, by Tim Modise and Nelson Mandela.
[02:30] <usama> Snellgrove, the bz2 error is appearing only this time and the duplicate line error is coming always
[02:30] <Snellgrove> being an african word,  I suppose it would be something more like oo-boon-too not you-bun-tu / you-bun-too
[02:30] <gdb> Stromham: You're losing an 'n' in there ;-)
[02:30] <gdb> Snellgrove: That's right.
[02:30] <gdb> oo-BOON-too
[02:30] <Stromham> snellgrove: you do have a point :(
[02:31] <Snellgrove> strange, usama..   might want to put this on the forums as I am not sure what the problem is really
[02:31] <usama> Snellgrove, ok
[02:31] <gdb> Then again, everyone I know says oo-BUN-too. :-/
[02:31] <Snellgrove> I think the dupplicate line is not helpful
[02:31] <gdb> And so did I until I read the documetnation!
[02:31] <gdb> documentation
[02:31] <usama> Snellgrove,
[02:31] <Snellgrove> as its not a real problem, its just being caused by this bzip error
[02:31] <usama> ok
[02:31] <usama> can i install automatix on hoary?
[02:32] <gdb> You do not want to use automatix.  Please use easyubuntu.
[02:32] <Snellgrove> not sure, I think that first came out on Breezy ....possibly.     if you are on dial-up consider ordering a breezy or, even better.. a Dapper CD :)
[02:32] <Snellgrove> as long as dapper supports your modem that is
[02:32] <gdb> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:32] <usama> Snellgrove, i have ordered dapper but it will take time (you know)
[02:33] <anilruby> install Dapper from Berrzy directly CD install possible?
[02:33] <Snellgrove> ah I see :)
[02:33] <anilruby> install Dapper from Berrzy directly CD install possible?
[02:33] <anilruby> can I install Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD from my current Ubuntu 5.10 like "apt-get update ..." such
[02:33] <anilruby> install Dapper from Berrzy directly CD install possible?
[02:33] <gdb> anilruby: More or less, yes, but that's not how it will work.
[02:33] <gdb> !tell anilruby about upgrade
[02:33] <gdb> You can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file, change every "breezy" reference to "dapper", run apt-get update and then apt-get dist-ugprade
[02:34] <anilruby> tell me about upgrade!
[02:34] <Snellgrove> anilruby:   to upgrade, to want to change the words "breezy" to "dapper" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and then do a "sudo apt-get update" and then do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then wait...a while :D
[02:34] <icefeldt> how can i run a programm at startup with a slight delay (~5 seconds)?
[02:34] <Snellgrove> lol gdb beat me too it :D
[02:34] <gdb> make sure you use dist-upgrade and not upgrade or your system may be unbootable
[02:34] <gdb> Snellgrove: hehe
[02:34] <Stromham> lol
[02:34] <gdb> Personally, I think installing from the live CD is fun. :-)  But I keep /home on a separate partition, too. :-)
[02:35] <jrib> icefeldt: sleep 5 && program
[02:35] <Stromham> gdb: i tried the livecd and it was slow and choppy :(
[02:35] <eegore> !automatix
[02:35] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[02:35] <Snellgrove> Stromham:  CD's can only transfer ~7mb a second
[02:35] <icefeldt> jrib: and where do i configure that?
[02:35] <Snellgrove> so O/S will run very slow from a CD!
[02:35] <gdb> Stromham: using the CD or upgrading from it?
[02:35] <gdb> er you can't upgrade from it so forget i asked that
[02:35] <Snellgrove> gdb:  - good practise there :) I also have my /home on a separate hard drive, so I can hose the O/S easily without losing my data
[02:36] <jrib> icefeldt: system > preferences > sessions > startup, if it doesn't let you put the command like that, just make a script and run that
[02:36] <anilruby>  installing from the live CD is too slow? What is the experience of others?
[02:36] <tdn> How do I get wireless lan with WPA-PSK to work in Ubuntu? I wan't to be able to easily shift between the networks where I go.
[02:36] <icefeldt> jrib: iokay
[02:36] <gdb> Snellgrove: Yes, I can cleanly install the system and be running again in about 20 minutes.  I keep /home on a mirror and then the OS on a single disk.  The machine has 3 drives total for that reason.
[02:36] <gdb> anilruby: Installing from CD takes me about 10 minutes.
[02:37] <gdb> And regardless, you can use the system normally during the installation.  Firefox, xchat, etc, is all there.  Albiet it will load slowly, but will run normally once loaded.
[02:37] <Stromham> gdb: well it depends on the amount of ram you have
[02:37] <solstice> i got syslog filled with dhcp request to my modem (which does not have a dhcpd)  how to remove that ?
[02:37] <anilruby> gdbm what is your RAM?
[02:37] <anilruby> my RAM is 256MB!
[02:38] <anilruby>  installing from the live CD is too slow? What is the experience of others?
[02:38] <gdb> Installing on a 2GB machine took about 10 minutes, installing on a 384 MB machine took about a half hour.
[02:38] <Stromham> anilruby: you should be fine
[02:38] <Stromham> you need 192 to do it
[02:38] <anilruby> I am asking gdb about RAM?
[02:38] <rdz> tdn, silly question: can you write my name, when you got an answer? i'm interested in exactly the same
[02:38] <gdb> anilruby: I answered anilruby about RAM?
[02:38] <gdb> ;-)
[02:38] <gdb> The 384MB machine is a really old laptop (Tecra 8000).
[02:39] <Stromham> anilruby: its faster to use the alternate iso image
[02:39] <tdn> rdz, sure thing. Although I don't think I will get an answer. This problem seems difficult to solve :(
[02:39] <odres> just a question does realplayer (latest version) support Alsa ?
[02:39] <thirdalbum> When you insert the alternate CD, Breezy will recognise it and ask you if you want to start the package manager and add the CD to your sources.list
[02:39] <gdb> anilruby: Regardless, installing on a 256MB machine is going to be slow regardless of method used.  And yes, doing a text install from Alternatives will be faster than using the Live CD.
[02:40] <rdz> tdn, seems like it is not the first time you ask this here....
[02:40] <lamego> anilruby, also do not expect to run ubuntu smoothly with such a low memory capacity
[02:40] <afflux> nabend...
[02:40] <gdb> anilruby: You might check out xubuntu, also.
[02:40] <Stromham> lamego: im running very fast on a 192 mb of ram
[02:40] <Awesome-o2000> is it possible to turn kernel preemption off without recompiling the kernel?
[02:40] <whyami> what is the KDE equivalent for gnome's file-roller?
[02:40] <gdb> anilruby: It uses the XFCE desktop which is more appropriate on a low memory machine.
[02:40] <Hexidigital_> odres:: i think it does (not ENTIRELY positive, though)
[02:40] <lamego> Stromham, with gnome ?
[02:40] <Stromham> lamego: yep
[02:41] <icefeldt> jrib: jrib it didnt work. the program (startcompiz.sh) didnt start
[02:41] <lamego> strange :P
[02:41] <icefeldt> jrib: can you tell me how i do it other way? (with scrippt?)
[02:41] <anilruby> yeah Ubuntu on 256MB is faster than 521MB !!!!!!
[02:41] <anilruby> actually its same
[02:41] <anilruby> coz its linux
[02:41] <Stromham> ubuntu is fast on any system
[02:41] <Snellgrove> the more the merrier, I say.. with RAM  lol
[02:41] <Snellgrove> I've only got 1GB but I want a 2nd ;) for using Hugin and VMWare
[02:41] <void^> have a lot of swap space, increase swappiness :)
[02:41] <Stromham> lol faster than xp ever was
[02:42] <Inferus> im on 2gb and i dont notice it being that much faster than any other OS i've used ;/
[02:42] <Hexidigital_> anilruby:: i have 512 on my laptop and 1536 on my server, and my laptop seems faster sometimes
[02:42] <tdn> rdz, I tried getting help for this some time when I was running 5.10. Now I hoped there would be some response.
[02:42] <funkmaster> how do i install svn so i can use it?
[02:42] <tdn> funkmaster, apt-get install subversion
[02:42] <rdz> funkmaster, sudo apt-get installl subversion
[02:42] <funkmaster> ah oki thx a lot :D
[02:42] <Stromham> lol
[02:43] <delcoyote> hi all need some advice please, with nfs. to setup /etc/exports, /etc/hosts.allow etc, need to create this files?
[02:43] <nbt> it's possible to make ubuntu's live cd load ati x700 drivers; installing nothing in the hdd ?
[02:43] <grimboy> My rhythmbox icon no longer shows up.
[02:43] <Hexidigital_> i use gnome on my server; how can i make my server use the text login instead of the graphical, since i dont use graphical that often?
[02:43] <anilruby> if I lost my MBR during install, tell me method to boot into Windows XP!
[02:43] <anilruby> floppy method
[02:43] <tdn> anilruby, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:44] <MistaED> hey is it better to just run gnome when you run nautilus and maybe gnome-panel on top of xfce?
[02:44] <gdb> Hexidigital_: change the initdefault to runlevel 3 in /etc/inittab
[02:44] <void^> delcoyote: install nfs-kernel-server
[02:44] <gdb> Hexidigital_: then do $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:44] <delcoyote> thanks void^
[02:44] <icefeldt> how can i start a program at startup with a 10 sec delay?
[02:44] <Hexidigital_> gdb:: thanks! appreciate it
[02:44] <gdb> Hexidigital_: Sure thing!
[02:44] <grimboy> icefeldt, sleep 10; foo
[02:45] <MistaED> because on this old 128mb ram laptop, xubuntu runs alright but having gnome-panel and nautilus greatly improves usability
[02:45] <anilruby> hwo to boot into Windows XP if I lost MBR!
[02:45] <lamego> icefeldt, create a script with a sleep 10, and call it from /etc/rc.local
[02:45] <thomas> hallo
[02:45] <MistaED> so i just installed gnome over the top and now it's slow :(
[02:45] <Stromham> mistaed: try ubuntu im running it fine right now without problems
[02:45] <thomas> was ist soll
[02:45] <grimboy> MistaED, Yeah, bad idea.
[02:45] <Stromham> 192 mb here
[02:45] <gdb> anilruby: boot from your windows cd, go into rescue mode, and run "fixmbr" I believe it is, but you won't be able to boot back into Linux without reinstalling Grub using the live CD
[02:45] <lamego> MistaED, gnome is more demanding
[02:45] <thomas> was
[02:45] <icefeldt> lamego: how do i do that? i just want to run "startcompiz.sh" 10 secs after startup.
[02:46] <thomas> cd
[02:46] <gdb> anilruby: the DOS command "fdisk /mbr" will also fix it.
[02:46] <Hexidigital_> gdm:: make "id:2:initdefault:" "id:2:initdefault:3"?
[02:46] <gdb> MistaED: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php
[02:46] <thomas> hallo
[02:46] <gdb> Hexidigital_: No, change the 2 to a 3.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> icefeldt: please read the link that you will have in your pm for instructions on that
[02:46] <lamego> icefeldt, that is not the way it should be done for compiz, please read the howto for compiz/xgl
[02:46] <gnomefreak> !xgl > icefeldt
[02:46] <gdb> id:3:initdefault"
[02:47] <Hexidigital_> gdb:: ah, thanks again
[02:47] <Larsson-Sweden> Is there something wrong with the 2.6.15-25-686 kernel? People in the forums are talking about it.
[02:47] <MistaED> lamego: i don't know why it's so demanding, redhat have put gnome onto that $100 laptop
[02:47] <gdb> er without the ", it's a :
[02:47] <gdb> hehe
[02:47] <gnomefreak> Larsson-Sweden: not really
[02:47] <MistaED> i can't get dad to use xfce, it can't go onto samba shares or put icons onto the desktop without hassles and the menu keeps disappearing
[02:48] <lamego> MistaED, the $100 latop has > 256 MBs and the storage is faster than your IDE
[02:48] <icefeldt> lamego: i have read this. and i did like its documented there, but when i put startcompiz.sh in the autostart (like it is told me to) the desktop doenst load!
[02:48] <grimboy> I've lost my rhythmbox icon when it's iconized. Really, why might this be.
[02:48] <gdb> grimboy: because it exited?  are you sure it's running?
[02:48] <lamego> icefeldt, the startcompiz.sh is expected to be run by gdm when you select a login, not from the system startup
[02:48] <MistaED> would putting a tiny-x server on there improve the performance instead of running xorg7?
[02:48] <lamego> icefeldt, I have tested the howto and it dir work fine
[02:49] <grimboy> gdb: Well I can hear music, and at startup the window shows.
[02:49] <gdb> ah ok
[02:49] <gdb> well, poop
[02:49] <gnomefreak> icefeldt: we also have a channel #ubuntu-xgl for more help with xgl
[02:50] <grimboy> Where's the icon for rhythmbox?
[02:50] <grimboy> (like the image)
[02:51] <xiaochuan> j
[02:51] <xiaochuan> who can help me?
[02:51] <icefeldt> lamego: okayi think i used a wrong term. i have entered startcompiz into system ---> session --> startup programs. but when i do that, the desktiop doesnt load. just a brown screen
[02:51] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: noone can unless you give us something to help you with
[02:52] <xiaochuan> okay wait
[02:52] <delcoyote> can i save a windows image from hardrive, with ubuntu live cd? using nfs transfering all data to other ubuntu machine?
[02:52] <lamego> icefeldt, so it must be an issue with compiz, it will be better by putting it into the system startup
[02:53] <xiaochuan> I install lumaqq but it's not running !!
[02:53] <delcoyote> windows with ntfs file system(i think)
[02:53] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: how did you install it?
[02:53] <icefeldt> lamego: when is dont have it in there, run the desktop and start comiz manually it loads fine
[02:53] <lamego> delcoyote, you can do it use some linux utilities, but you should look for ntfsclone or gfu
[02:53] <icefeldt> lamego: thats why i wanted a delay
[02:54] <gdb> delcoyote: You likely can.  If you can do it with the default installed system, you can do it with the live CD.
[02:54] <xUNAx> hello
[02:55] <xUNAx> i upgraded my box to dapper, and ssh pubkey auth is not working anymore
[02:55] <delcoyote> thanks lamego  gdb  ill check all this, trying to save someones data from not bootable win install
[02:55] <lamego> xUNAx, you you mean authentication without requesting a password ?
[02:55] <xUNAx> i haven't found anything special on the web about that
[02:55] <xUNAx> yeah
[02:56] <xUNAx> it used to work before the update
[02:56] <xUNAx> and it's broken for every user
[02:56] <xUNAx> so i tried with the root account (bad idea, i know)
[02:56] <gdb> delcoyote: Check by booting the live cd then mounting the windows partition as type ntfs.  If that works, then it's simple to move the data.  Make sure to give -o,ro to the mount command line to mount it read-only.
[02:56] <xUNAx> and it worked
[02:56] <lamego> delcoyote, oh, If you don't need a disk image you can just copy using nautilus
[02:56] <xUNAx> lamego : it's working for root, but not for the users
[02:56] <gdb> ala $ sudo mount -t ntfs -o,ro /dev/windowsparition /mnt
[02:57] <gdb> er partition
[02:57] <lamego> xUNAx, you will to put your new keys into the ssh key files
[02:57] <lamego> because after the reinstalling your system got a new ssh key
[02:57] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: if you cant answer the questions im not gonna beable to help you
[02:57] <xUNAx> lamego : i even wiped out the .ssh dir and recreated the authorized_keys file, and i checked the permissions
[02:57] <Angel_Dex> Helloo!!!
[02:57] <delcoyote> thanks gdb lamego  im going to try, dont prommess anything :-D
[02:57] <lamego> xUNAx, it should work
[02:57] <xiaochuan> install look the guide
[02:57] <gdb> delcoyote: :-)
[02:57] <grimboy> Is there a way using apt of repairing packages without removing and reinstalling them?
[02:57] <xUNAx> lamego :  i tried that :)
[02:58] <gdb> grimboy: apt-get -f install
[02:58] <xUNAx> oh
[02:58] <xUNAx> lamego : oh wait
[02:58] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: what type of file format was it?
[02:58] <xUNAx> lamego : u mean the ubuntu upgrade has changed the server's ssh key ?
[02:58] <lamego> yes it did
[02:58] <xiaochuan> what type of file ?
[02:58] <lamego> well i mean, it may have done
[02:59] <xUNAx> lamego : but how is this related to the .ssh/authorized_keys of the user ?
[02:59] <xiaochuan> what type of file?
[02:59] <lamego> anyway. you can use ssh -vv to troubleshoot
[02:59] <gdb> An upgrade shouldn't change it, but a clean install would have.
[02:59] <lamego> the ssh verbose is really detailed
[02:59] <xUNAx> lamego : i did that
[02:59] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: did you use apt-get install or did you download it froma  website?
[02:59] <xUNAx> lamego : i did a -vvv (debug3) and it says :
[02:59] <xiaochuan> year  download just
[02:59] <xUNAx> lamego : should i paste it here? it's pretty verbose
[02:59] <lamego> xUNAx, pastebin
[02:59] <xiaochuan> download just
[02:59] <lamego> !pastebin
[02:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:59] <xUNAx> ok
[03:00] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: from a website?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> xiaochuan: what is your native language?
[03:00] <xiaochuan> chinese
[03:00] <gnomefreak> !cn
[03:00] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:03] <xUNAx> lamego : it's pasted
[03:04] <xUNAx> lamego : the auth negociation is at the end and it goes :  debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
[03:05] <lamego> erm, whats the pastebin link for it ?
[03:05] <xUNAx> oh sure
[03:05] <xUNAx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16431
[03:05] <xUNAx> sorry
[03:05] <xUNAx> (first time here)
[03:05] <lamego> :P
[03:06] <xUNAx> i really don't know what line 110 means
[03:07] <dayer> Hi all, how I could install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 in Dapper? I've upgraded from Breezy, the new Kernel not run very well X mode and I need compile a modules sin the old kernel
[03:08] <lamego> xUNAx, ops, sorry, I mean you need to debug on the server side, where it checks for the authorized_keys entry
[03:08] <xUNAx> okay
[03:08] <lamego> you need to run sshd with debug there
[03:08] <gnomefreak> DRYKISS: can you please stop chnaging you nick so often
[03:08] <xUNAx> lamego : okay
[03:09] <xUNAx> lamego : what i don't understand is that it's working with root and not any user
[03:09] <garryF> Seems the headers are in the repositories or in build-essentials
[03:09] <icefeldt> okay, new problem. how can i automatically start a program, depending on which session i chose (XGL or Gnome) ??
[03:09] <xUNAx> lamego : i mean IF it was a security change, it should be the other way around
[03:10] <lamego> xUNAx, that is strange
[03:10] <DRYKISS> gnomefreak: sorry i mistyped it a couple of times
[03:10] <bluefusion> hey everyone can someone help pls
[03:10] <bluefusion> my sound card doesnt work
[03:10] <Otacon22> hi all
[03:10] <lamego> xUNAx, well, yes it is the client change causing the problem, but to understand what was is the problem you will need to look into the server side
[03:11] <BCK14> bluefusion: be more specific
[03:11] <grimboy> Wow, even reinstalling rhythmbox doesn't work.
[03:11] <bluefusion> whenever  thy to play something it says i don't have the plugin installed
[03:11] <garryF> Is the speaker icon to the left od the date red as in muted?
[03:11] <bluefusion> i try
[03:11] <bluefusion> not thy
[03:11] <j-j> hi all im quite new to ubuntu and linux could any one pls help with a wifi issue im having problems setting up my wireless network  the network card is a d-link dwl g520+ there does not seem to be any problems there i have tried the process as described in the wiki wifi docs to no avail im sitting right by the router but every time i disconnect the ethernet i lose the connection any ides?
[03:11] <bluefusion> no, not muted im not that dumb
[03:11] <xUNAx> lamego : i understand. But the clients have not changed; all i did was the upgrade on the ubuntu box. i'm changing the verbose level of sshd...
[03:11] <lamego> xUNAx, they sent key was /Users/local_user/.ssh/id_dsa
[03:12] <Otacon22> I am a python programmer; i want to create a gdesklet using python; I haven't find documentationt abount this ... someoune can help me about this?
[03:12] <garryF> I did not imply that you were dumb. There are many sight impaired users.
[03:12] <bluefusion> i have a unique onboard card that needs special drivers for windoze
[03:12] <lamego> xUNAx, there must have been some change on the sshd configuration during the upgrade
[03:12] <icefeldt> j-j: install wifi radar
[03:12] <bluefusion> i dunno about ubuntu, but it won't work.
[03:12] <Otacon22> pls, if you want to tell me something write my nick, else i will never see it...
[03:12] <jenda> Can you recommend an easy to use ftp client? (graphical if possible, or EASY to use CLI)
[03:12] <lamego> there are several settings on /etc/ssh/ssh_config related to the access keys
[03:13] <bluefusion> when i instaled 6.06 from cd, i tried .ogg file in examples and it had video but no sound.
[03:13] <muszek> hi
[03:13] <garryF> So, please don't put words in my mouth or assume judgement. You can see help from another.
[03:13] <Jowi> jenda: gftp
[03:13] <lamego> !mpe3
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about mpe3
[03:13] <lamego> !mp3
[03:13] <laney> np: The Infinity Project - Under The Overtones
[03:13] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <j-j> icefeldt, will try thanks
[03:13] <extern> when executing nautilus script on a file, it only specifies the name of file for the script, but no the path. How can I find the path?
[03:13] <lamego> nautilus script ?
[03:14] <lamego> you mean a shell script ?
[03:14] <burepe2> When I start my comp it is getting to a screen with options (like a list to access bios and such) but it is just stopping there. The keyboard won't let me type in any of the options, the hard disk won't boot and the live cd won't boot. Before, I had "no disk" error that was not letting me boot the hard disk but I used the live cd to boot the hard disk, but now I am getting nothing. Any suggestion?
[03:14] <bluefusion> now its not on the livecd i get nothing. zip. it just says that it doesn't have the plugin.
[03:14] <extern> lamego, yes
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Skwid__: stop join with so many names
[03:15] <lamego> extern, I am not sure you want the current_dir=`pwd`
[03:15] <muszek> I can't connect to vsftpd with users that don't have a valid shell (e.g. ones that have /bin/false as shell), so I _must_ "enable" shell access for all of my ftp users.  I don't have this problem on my CentOS server (users with false shell can connect to vsftpd).  Does anyone know what to do?
[03:15] <Jowi> burepe2: your BIOS has got options to stop the computer from booting if it finds a hardware error. you can have a faulty keyboard or something
[03:15] <lamego> muszek, you can setup /bin/false as a valid shell
[03:15] <garryF> Try easybuntu, if you google for it, its the second link from the top welcome to easybuntu. It might help the sound issue.
[03:15] <muszek> lamego: how do I do it?
[03:15] <lamego> muszek, add it to /etc/shells
[03:15] <garryF> It's a script
[03:16] <muszek> lamego: thanks
[03:16] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[03:16] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:16] <bluefusion> anyone help me?!
[03:16] <bluefusion> read up
[03:16] <extern> lamego, I'm executing the script on one file on my desktop, but the $PWD is set to my home directory, not my desktop
[03:16] <lamego> bluefusion, we already pointed you several solutions
[03:17] <lamego> the mp3 and easyubuntu suggestions
[03:17] <ompaul> gnomefreak, he was at that last evening
[03:17] <[sad] Low_E> hello
[03:17] <garryF> Uboto was not so critical of Easyubuntu last week.
[03:17] <bluefusion> oh u talk to me
[03:17] <Detox> hey folks I am setting up ubuntu server and a file is missiing after isntall ,, it is /etc/default/saslauthd what prog dows it belon to and how do i get it back?
[03:17] <Jowi> burepe2: check that all cables/connectors inside the computer are well fixed as well as the keyboard, mouse etc.
[03:18] <lamego> extern, ok, I dont't rember how you can get the full path name of the script which is being executed :(
[03:18] <Low_E> question: ubuntu desktop .. how can i change grub-default-OS?
[03:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, in our unregged channe;
[03:18] <lamego> Low_E, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:18] <gnomefreak> i dropped him from there
[03:18] <stefg> !grub
[03:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:18] <xUNAx> lamego : i increased the verbose level of sshd
[03:19] <Low_E> lamego, thx, I found that file allready but do not know how I should edit it
[03:19] <lamego> xUNAx, it should mention it is checking the key against .aurhotized_keys
[03:19] <xUNAx> lamego : and THANK YOU, that was the place to look for
[03:19] <lamego> :)
[03:19] <lamego> I had enough troubles with ssh keys to learn it the hard way :P
[03:20] <stefg> Low_E: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:20] <xUNAx> lamego : actually it has nothing to do with the upgrade : for some reason (and i think i'm the reason) the /home has non standard rights, and therefore sshd refused to take keys from the users
[03:20] <burepe2> Jowi: there is a small white and bliue cable. I don't know what it is for or where to connect it.
[03:20] <lamego> ah ok :)
[03:20] <xUNAx> lamego : as /root is not beneath the /home tree; it worked fine
[03:20] <xUNAx> lamego : it's all fixed now, thanks again :D
[03:21] <lamego> np :)
[03:21] <xUNAx> lamego : and i was blaming dapper... ssshhh
[03:21] <extern> lamego, I've noticed that on desktop the working directory is always the home directory, is it possible to change it to desktop?
[03:21] <lamego> extern, I believe that can be conigured on the launcher, but I am not sure, if is not then its a nautilus default
[03:21] <lamego> configured i mean
[03:21] <Low_E> stefg, what is "gksudo"?? never heard of this comm before
[03:22] <Detox> hey folks I am setting up ubuntu server and a file is missiing after isntall ,, it is /etc/default/saslauthd what prog dows it belon to and how do i get it back?
[03:22] <lamego> but erm, if the launcher is on the desktop, why do you need to find is path ?
[03:22] <garryF> !gksudo
[03:22] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[03:22] <lamego> gallag, man gksudo
[03:22] <Jowi> burepe2: impossible for me to know what kind of cable that is without having the computer in front of me.
[03:22] <anilruby> I think it is the breaking Ubuntu Dapper Desktop CD is a defective one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=140
[03:22] <extern> lamego, what launcher?
[03:23] <garryF> Hmm, I use sudo a lot. Suddenly, there is some issue with sudo?
[03:23] <Awesome-o2000> is there any way to disable kernel preemption without recompiling the kernel?
[03:23] <lamego> extern, sorry, you are executing the script directly from the desktop without creating a launcher for it ?
[03:23] <Hexidigital> i'm trying to disable GDM at boot... i edited /etc/inittab to id:3:initdefault , but didn't work, any ideas?
[03:23] <stefg> gksudo is the graphical version of sudo... e.g. comes in handy when you use the ALT-F2 dialog to start an app and neet superuser privileges
[03:23] <anilruby> also checkout for problems http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192136
[03:23] <anilruby> Dont use Ubuntu 6.6 LTS desktop cds!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:23] <Jowi> Hexidigital: see if a link to gdm exist in /etc/rc3.d and remove it
[03:24] <extern> lamego, I'm right clicking on a file, then going to script submenu and then select my script
[03:24] <Hexidigital> Jowi: thanks... will check that, and restart to test
[03:24] <Hexidigital> exit
[03:24] <Hexidigital> whoops :(
[03:24] <extern> it works fien when runing not directly from desktop, but from nautilus file browser
[03:24] <lamego> Hexidigital, mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d/gsm.disabled
[03:24] <burepe2> Anyone know what the short thin bluewire and whitewire twisted cable does? It connects one end to the cdrom and other to the motherboard I think.
[03:24] <lamego> ops gdm
[03:24] <garryF> Its the cd audio cable
[03:25] <Jowi> lamego: not a good idea if he still want gdm to start on rc2.d
[03:25] <burepe2> Thanks garryF
[03:25] <lamego> ah, sorry, I thaught he wanted to disabled it :|
[03:25] <garryF> burepe2 Welcome
[03:25] <anilruby> Dont use Ubuntu 6.6 LTS desktop cds!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:25] <anilruby> I think it is the breaking Ubuntu Dapper Desktop CD is a defective one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=140
[03:26] <lamego> anilruby, what is your problem !?
[03:26] <garryF> I prefer the alternate cd myself for installs. It has more options.
[03:26] <anilruby> anuybody have installed Dapper with Live CD?
[03:26] <finalbeta> I want to move my Desktop from XP to ubuntu, but first I would like to test wetter ubuntu can use the TV card. Can I test this from the live CD? what software do I need?
[03:26] <Bazzi> anilruby several times
[03:26] <lamego> anilruby, me and 90% of the people here, I guess
[03:27] <Bazzi> finalbeta: what tv card is it?
[03:27] <lamego> finalbeta, I don't know which software you need, but yes you should be able to test it from the liveCD
[03:27] <anilruby> but in my case all 10 live cds dont work
[03:27] <stefg> finalbeta: What card is it?
[03:27] <finalbeta> Bazzi, sry can't even say, it's a medion PC.
[03:27] <lamego> anilruby, that is clearly a problem on what you are doing, please stop being lame and reporting a problem which is specific to your procedure
[03:27] <Bazzi> ooo
[03:27] <garryF> I did and it works for me, the live cd. Strange.
[03:28] <lamego> there is no general problem with the ubuntu live cd
[03:28] <Bazzi> finalbeta: then just try with the livecd and hope it is recognized automagically
[03:28] <garryF> Ouch, or maybe there is a hardware issue with his system.
[03:28] <lamego> what happens, they don't boot, is that the problem ?
[03:28] <anilruby> any doumented problem with Dapper Live CD yet?
[03:28] <Hexidigital> thanks Jowi that worked
[03:28] <nbjayme> hello, is there a zenity feature that would display terminal output like the one in synaptic (when you view details)?
[03:28] <Bazzi> finalbeta: you can see by using "lspci" or similar commands whether it has been detected
[03:28] <Jowi> you're welcome Hexidigital
[03:28] <finalbeta> Bazzi, I'm running the live cd on it now. Impressed it even booted up correctly, don't know where to go look for the card tho.
[03:29] <lamego> anilruby, described your problem instead of making dumb sentences and dumb questions
[03:29] <garryF> should be a readme in the livecd.
[03:29] <anilruby> lamego no, it hangs while choosing country time
[03:29] <Hexidigital> gotta go.. have a great day everyone
[03:29] <Bazzi> finalbeta: theres also a device manager like in windows
[03:29] <finalbeta> Just found it
[03:29] <stefg> finalbeta: so it's a DVB-T card? Even if it's not working from the Live-CD, chances are that all it takes is a firmware-file to make it going
[03:29] <lamego> anilruby, if you have a problem with the livecd and you aren't able to debug or identify it, just download the alternate CD
[03:29] <burepe2> lamego: how can you test a tv card from the live cd? Can you load the driver in a live cd?
[03:30] <adam0509> hello, do someone have a voodoo 3 here ??
[03:30] <lamego> burepe2, if it is a loadable kernel module, yes I think you can, but I don't have any experiencie with tv cards...
[03:30] <anilruby> lamego, I live in India, downloading is impossible with d/w speed 6kBps
[03:30] <burepe2> lamego: I got my tv tuner card working but it was hard
[03:30] <lamego> burepe2, you can google for your specific card model and linux, you should find some tips
[03:31] <finalbeta> Bazzi: stefg : SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder, Philips Semiconductors, Creatix Polymedia GmbH , in the device manager it does seem to have a driver linked to it.
[03:31] <anilruby> which is Better macOS X or Ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[03:31] <Bazzi> I wouldn't know a tv receiver software for linux though
[03:31] <lamego> anilruby, STOP doing dumb questions on the channel !
[03:31] <Bazzi> maybe vlc can do it
[03:31] <stefg> should be supported
[03:31] <xUNAx> anilruby : on ppc or x86?
[03:32] <Jowi> anilruby: #ubuntu-offtopic might be for you :)
[03:32] <garryF> Hmmm, Which is beter black berry cobbler or Peach pie? Its all a matter of preference. Ask ten different folks which os is better and you might get fifteen different answers.
[03:32] <anilruby> Ok! I am quittin, have a nice day/night for you all!!!!
[03:33] <anilruby> on x86!
[03:33] <funghetto> ciao
[03:33] <garryF> I would guess the one you don't have to pay big bucks for, since the idea is to get away from wallet monopoly.
[03:34] <burepe2> finalbeta: I think I have a very similar card to you
[03:34] <burepe2> finalbeta: does the card have a sticker with boxes and a check mark under ntfs
[03:35] <funghetto> nesuno italiano
[03:35] <finalbeta> burepe2: I don't believe so.
[03:35] <funghetto> nessuno
[03:35] <Awesome-o2000> ugh - its going to take hours and hours to compile a new kernel on a p266mmx isnt it? is there a precompiled i386 kernel without preempt in it available via apt-get?
[03:35] <burepe2> finalbeta: do you know what driver you need?
[03:35] <Jowi> !it
[03:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:35] <tuotuo> anybody can help me?
[03:36] <finalbeta> burepe2: info.linux.driver in the device manager gives me : saa7134 . SO I thing it's installed correctly.
[03:36] <ompaul> !anyone
[03:36] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:36] <burepe2> finalbeta: you can download mythtv, xawtv, and tvtime
[03:36] <lamego> tuotuo, ask
[03:36] <finalbeta> burepe2: thnx, needed some program to test
[03:36] <amund> anyone know how nautilus handles mouning of samba shares? I'm looking for the actual mount path...
[03:36] <Lord-ChewY> what is the command to check my kernel version?
[03:37] <garryF> uname -r
[03:37] <stefg> finalbeta: check 'dmesg' if there's a 'frontend' recoginized to be sure
[03:37] <tuotuo> i have installed the Macromedia flash plugin pour mozilla, but i still can't play flash with my browser firefox
[03:37] <ompaul> Lord-ChewY, uname -r
[03:37] <Jowi> Lord-ChewY: uname -r
[03:37] <burepe2> finalbeta: I had the same driver but I had do install it by hand
[03:37] <garryF> Everyone loves those easy answers.
[03:37] <lamego> amund, I don't know about nautilus, but you can setup samba shares mount points on /etc/fstab
[03:37] <stefg> !flash
[03:37] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:38] <lamego> tuotuo, or try with easyubuntu
[03:38] <tuotuo> thanks
[03:38] <tuotuo> but what's easyubuntu?
[03:38] <burepe2> finalbeta: what country do you live in? The settings in the programs change depending on what system the country uses. Like ntfs, pal and others
[03:38] <amund> lamego: Do you know if theres some way to make fstab mounts handle disconnects? This is why I want to use gnome's way...
[03:38] <antoine_lug> bonjours a tous
[03:39] <finalbeta> burepe2: Belgium
[03:39] <antoine_lug> voila j'ai un probleme
[03:39] <grimboy> !easyubuntu
[03:39] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:39] <mrmist> hi guys :)
[03:39] <stefg> !fr
[03:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:39] <tuotuo> i use ubuntu
[03:39] <antoine_lug> impossible de mont la une partion sous ubuntu
[03:39] <moses> hello
[03:39] <moses> anybody can i ask a question?
[03:39] <garryF> I tried easyubuntu and I played a video and the video and sound were hilariously out of sync. Someone blamed easyubuntu and then I found out, that it was the video itself that was created out of sync!
[03:39] <lamego> amund, define "handle disconnects"
[03:39] <garryF> no
[03:39] <grimboy> moses, Yup
[03:39] <extern> where can I specify default application to open files of one extension?
[03:39] <burepe2> finalbeta: so if you think the driver is loaded, can you watch tv?
[03:39] <burepe2> do you have a program?
[03:40] <mrmist> Any way to make my laptop function correctly when connecting an external screen ?
[03:40] <burepe2> extern: right click and choose in the properties
[03:40] <finalbeta> burepe2: I'm on the live CD? i'll try to "install" a program to watch now
[03:40] <bluefusion> hi again
[03:40] <moses> can i install ubuntu on a machine that has a 2mb vcard?
[03:41] <burepe2> finalbeta: does the live cd have a tvtuner program included?
[03:41] <lamego> moses, assuming there is a X driver for it, yes
[03:41] <monomaniacpat> Yo, yo, yo. My dist-upgrade quit after failing to install and run firestarter... little help?
[03:41] <stefg> moses, the limiting factor is RAM...
[03:41] <bluefusion> i installed all codecs, now i can play files but i still not hearing them. no possibility of external(speaker) failure.
[03:41] <moses> what x? lamgo
[03:41] <finalbeta> burepe2: not that I can see
[03:41] <burepe2> finalbeta: you can't install on a live cd so..
[03:41] <Jowi> moses: you should be able to, but your choice of resolutions might be small
[03:41] <moses> it has 128mb of ram
[03:41] <klue> I've installed SCIM and got a SCIM button tray ikon, but nothing happens when I click it, and ctrl+space won't trigger the panel. any ideas?
[03:41] <moses> i see
[03:41] <moses> that video card doesnt work on xp
[03:41] <burepe2> finalbeta: then I don't think you can view it with a live cd
[03:41] <funkmaster> hey ppl, sorry for the noob question, but i need to recompile ffmpeg with amr support, i used synaptic packet manager to install ffmpeg sometime ago, how can add the amr suport to it now?
[03:41] <finalbeta> burepe2: I have gig ram, I'll try
[03:41] <moses> xp only accepts 4mb minimum
[03:41] <stefg> moses: you might give xubuntu a try...
[03:42] <finalbeta> 1.5gig ram
[03:42] <moses> hmmm
[03:42] <extern> burepe2, thanks
[03:42] <bluefusion> sum1
[03:42] <Jowi> moses: you should at least be able to chose the vesa driver.
[03:42] <t3rror> what command is used for making an iso out of a cd in your cdrom?
[03:42] <moses> hmm ok..
[03:42] <amund> lamego: when a disconnect happens, e.i cable drop. the whole catalog will freeze, and everything trying to use it.
[03:42] <M4D3X> hello all
[03:42] <Jowi> moses: xp requires 800x600 in resolution if I'm not mistaken. 2mb should be enough for 640x480
[03:43] <lamego> catalog you could look at the samba mount options
[03:43] <burepe2> finalbeta: That card has the same chip and uses the same driver as my card. I am almost positive you can get it to work
[03:43] <M4D3X> i need some help!!!
[03:43] <Inferus> guys
[03:43] <Inferus> What is linux like for TVtuning
[03:43] <M4D3X> first time linux/unbuntu user!!
[03:43] <lamego> erm i meant, amund
[03:43] <Usunny> M4D3X try asking the question ...
[03:43] <Inferus> I have a usb tv tuner, a avermedia one
[03:44] <lamego> M4D3X, apt-cache search tv
[03:44] <bluefusion> somebody!!!!!! i installed all codecs listed on site, now i can play music but not hear it. no audio hardware failure.
[03:44] <Inferus> will i be able to get it running on ubuntu
[03:44] <M4D3X> ok i would like to get a dvd to work!!
[03:44] <garryF> bluefusion: Try EasyUbuntu
[03:44] <moses> and how about ubuntu?
[03:44] <burepe2> finalbeta: belgium pal b/h
[03:44] <moses> what resolution does it require?
[03:44] <burepe2> !tv
[03:44] <Inferus> hello garryF  :)
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about tv
[03:44] <burepe2> !tvtuner
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about tvtuner
[03:44] <moses> jowi
[03:44] <bluefusion> garryF: i have installed codecs. its drivers for my card thats prob.
[03:44] <lamego> moses, use the LiveCD and try it
[03:44] <stefg> M4D3X: let easyubuntu do that for you
[03:44] <Usunny> !dvd
[03:44] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:44] <garryF> Hiya Inferus :)
[03:44] <klue> !scim
[03:44] <moses> hmmm
[03:44] <Inferus> lo dood
[03:44] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[03:44] <moses> ok..
[03:44] <kditty> is it possible to edit an existing shockwave flash file in ubuntu?
[03:44] <burepe2> anyone know that tvtuner card settings page
[03:44] <burepe2> ?
[03:45] <M4D3X> stefg what is it?
[03:45] <monomaniacpat> can anyone tell me what to do when the dist upgrade fails when trying to install and then run firstarter?
[03:45] <ompaul> !mythtv
[03:45] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:45] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[03:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:45] <Jowi> moses: you can use 640x480.
[03:45] <ompaul> burepe2, ^^ read that from ubotu
[03:45] <moses> can i try hacking an xp on my network through a hub?
[03:45] <garryF> bluefusion I was hoping that the script might install a working driver for you.
[03:45] <burepe2> theanks opal
[03:45] <moses> 640x480 on ubuntu?jowi
[03:45] <funkmaster> tvtime and xawtv r nice for watchin tv
[03:45] <bluefusion> ah. how i get easyubuntu
[03:45] <xiaochuan> sudo apt-get install scim scim-modules-socket scim-modules-table scim-pinyin scim-tables-zh scim-input-pad
[03:45] <Inferus> what about mythTV funkmaster ?
[03:45] <lamego> moses, this channel is not for dumb questions
[03:45] <burepe2> not the soft but the driver settings
[03:45] <garryF> sec ...
[03:45] <Snellgrove> monomaniacpat: maybe uninstall firestarter, do the dist-upgrade and then try installing it after the dist is upgraded..   don't know, let me check if firestarter is even available in dapper :)
[03:46] <funkmaster> for watching just tv a little overkill
[03:46] <moses> ok
[03:46] <monomaniacpat> stefg: are you saying I should install firestarter through easyubuntu?
[03:46] <ompaul> bluefusion, join the channel #easyubuntu
[03:46] <moses> on command prompt
[03:46] <moses> i use net view
[03:46] <Inferus> heh heh
[03:46] <funkmaster> but if u want a pvr in it then mythtv is ok, but i would actually opt for freevo
[03:46] <garryF> http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/
[03:46] <xiaochuan> System show not found the scim??
[03:46] <monomaniacpat> Snellgrove: thanks. I'll try that.
[03:46] <funkmaster> i use it myself
[03:46] <stefg> monomaniacpat: no, i meant M4D3X
[03:46] <bluefusion> ta garryF
[03:46] <moses> but on terminal what is the equivalent of "net view"
[03:46] <Jowi> moses: yeah. I use that resolution on an old computer. it's enough for a basic window manager like icewm, but for gnome you might find the lack of screen real estate limiting
[03:46] <Inferus> funkmaster, you obviously know a lot about tv tuning
[03:46] <garryF> bluefusion welcome.
[03:46] <Snellgrove> firestarter is available, monomaniacpat in my dapper repo's - I did an apt-cache search firestarter.
[03:46] <Snellgrove> program for firewall management?
[03:47] <funkmaster> well not a lot, just using it myself, it's very easy
[03:47] <gnomefreak> !firestarter
[03:47] <M4D3X> sudo apt-get install subversion cd ; svn checkout svn://freecontrib.org/easyubuntu gksudo easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py
[03:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[03:47] <M4D3X> whats this?!?!?!?!
[03:47] <Inferus> how would I go about setting up one of these... AVerTV USB 2.0 - USB TV -
[03:47] <Inferus> also, do you find linux is better at tv reception funkmaster ?
[03:47] <Inferus> my windows pc has difficulty detecting a signal
[03:48] <funkmaster> euw i don't know about a usb tv card, mine is pci, but as long as it is recognized in ur system u should have no problems
[03:48] <monomaniacpat> OK, firestarter was installed (didn't think it was) - do I just restart dist-upgrade? it won't d/l again will it?
[03:48] <lamego> M4D3X, read the easyubuntu page
[03:48] <funkmaster> windows?
[03:48] <Inferus> ya
[03:48] <funkmaster> like the microsoft one?
[03:48] <M4D3X> i have Lamego
[03:48] <stefg> Inferus: This is just the brandname... you'll want the dibcom-usb-tv modules and firmware
[03:48] <moses> how can i view my ip address?
[03:48] <Snellgrove> only one way to find out, monomaniacpat  lol :D  try the dist-upgrade again and hopefully you'll be ok
[03:48] <Inferus> ok stefg
[03:48] <gnomefreak> moses: ifconfig
[03:48] <Inferus> thank you
[03:49] <burepe2> finalbeta: did you catch that last message?
[03:49] <Spy_> hey guys is ntfs write still experimental?
[03:49] <lamego> M4D3X, do not use the CVS if you dont know what it is, just follow the standard install procedure
[03:49] <burepe2> Spy_: yes
[03:49] <gnomefreak> Spy_: its not safe atm
[03:49] <lamego> Spy_, yes, and disabled by default
[03:49] <moses> and how to net view my network?
[03:49] <Spy_> kl
[03:49] <stefg> Inferus, check dmesg if you're using dapper... chances are the hardware is already installed. I use vlc to watch TV, all you need then is a channels.conf
[03:49] <lamego> Spy_, there is an emulation like driver that allows for ntfs write support, but I have no idea if it is working fine at the moment
[03:50] <Inferus> kool
[03:50] <Snellgrove> moses:  another way of viewing IP address, is to type in a terminal  IP addr   -gives less output than ifconfig
[03:50] <Spy_> k thanks lamego ill check into it
[03:50] <lamego> Spy_, look fot: captiva ntfs
[03:50] <lamego> for
[03:50] <garryF> !ntfs > garryf
[03:51] <gnomefreak> lamego: captive doesnt work on ubuntu
[03:51] <M4D3X> Lamego ---- pm
[03:51] <Snellgrove> moses:  to view your network, I guess you just visit Places > Network Servers
[03:51] <lamego> ops :|
[03:51] <Snellgrove> not sure other than that
[03:51] <gnomefreak> lamego: there is no _safe_ way to do it from ubuntu
[03:51] <finalbeta> burepe2: I got my TV card working, tvtime played right away. I'm really impressed by ubuntu. My laptops works right away, desktop, a year ago nothing worked.
[03:51] <gnomefreak> and shouldnt be advised
[03:52] <eitch0000> can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?
[03:52] <Inferus> K
[03:52] <ompaul> M4D3X, did you get an answer - I got disconnectied
[03:52] <lamego> sorry, the last time need it (some months ago) it id work, not sure if it was on ubuntu
[03:52] <M4D3X> nope ompaul
[03:52] <moses> thanks
[03:52] <burepe2> finalbeta: wow, that was a lot easier than it was for me.
[03:52] <Inferus> i've plugged my usb tv tuner in stefg , funkmaster  and it's not lit up
[03:52] <burepe2> finalbeta: I never got tvtime working either. Only xawtv
[03:53] <ompaul> M4D3X, that is a command line to be run in a terminal, it will look for your password, you can get a terminal using Applicaitons Accessories Terminal
[03:53] <stefg> Inferus: check 'dmesg' in a terminal... if it says about 'firmware not found' you've got get it from linuxtv.org
[03:53] <xiaochuan> The System show can't found the software scim ???? Why???
[03:53] <finalbeta> burepe2: lucky me, I guess I'll be switching this box to linux then.
[03:53] <M4D3X> thanks ompaul, its my first day with linux\unbuntu
[03:53] <moses> Snellgrove thanks, im there.. im browsing the c: windows of my xp pc.. can i shut it down from here?
[03:53] <M4D3X> and i love it!
[03:53] <burepe2> finalbeta: I am glad to hear it. I am really impressed with ubuntu too. It is great
[03:54] <Inferus> stefg, can I pm you ?
[03:54] <Inferus> please
[03:54] <M4D3X> im just really nervous about what im missing out on ompaul
[03:54] <stefg> Inferus, ths would be of public interest... rather paster the dmesg output to pastebin (and I'm short of time now)
[03:54] <Snellgrove> probably, moses  lol.  don't know :)   you can enable "remote desktop" in your XP install in the system properties, and in the applications >  internet menu  you have a terminal-services client :) can connect to your XP machine remotely :D
[03:54] <Akuma_> I'm trying to dual boot winxp with ubuntu and i'm wondering if its a bad idea to use NTFS ... what the state of the available drivers? will all read write work fine
[03:54] <Awesome-o2000> its odd - I didnt realize ndiswrapper used up CPU resources - is that because of the WEP encryption?
[03:54] <Inferus> well
[03:54] <nbjayme> hello,.... i need help regarding sed .... how do you extract the number in the following string  example "Memory alloc: 26"?  i want to get 26 only.
[03:55] <Inferus> it is saying about a lack of firmware yes
[03:55] <Inferus> [17193425.812000]  dvb-usb: did not find the firmware file. (dvb-usb-avertv-a800-02.fw) Please see linux/Documentation/dvb/ for more details on firmware-problems.
[03:55] <moses> ok thanks
[03:55] <Inferus> stefg, i have the firmware, what do i do with it
[03:55] <ompaul> M4D3X, no worries, you don't need more than one question mark, just ask, and if you don't get an answer wait and then ask again 10 mins later, you were missing out on ubuntu nothing else ;-)
[03:56] <M4D3X> pm ompaul
[03:56] <stefg> http://linuxtv.org/downloads/ get the firmware here and unpack it to /lib/firmware, then reinsert the stick and check dmesg again
[03:56] <Inferus> ok
[03:56] <Snellgrove> I don't know, nbjayme but it is definitely possible :)
[03:56] <Inferus> stefg, done!
[03:57] <bluefusion> easyubuntu doesnt work for me; it has no easyubuntu.py so the last (execute) step fails
[03:57] <eitch0000> can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?
[03:57] <Jowi> nbjayme: I would use awk. to extract the third column: echo "Memory alloc: 26" | awk '{print $3}'
[03:58] <Inferus> stefg, it failed? :S
[03:58] <Inferus> it did the same error, i put the .fw file in /lib/firmware
[03:58] <Inferus> oh wait, i have to put it in the kernel folder
[03:58] <Inferus> oops :$
[03:58] <stefg> paste your dmesg output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to let me have a look
[03:59] <Inferus> stefg, done
[04:00] <Inferus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16434
[04:00] <garryF> Strange about EasyUbuntu.
[04:00] <M4D3X> garryf
[04:00] <moses> hello is there a software for ubuntu that manages network?
[04:00] <M4D3X> i need to install it
[04:00] <moses> like a server he can shut other pc down or freeze them
[04:00] <Awesome-o2000> you know xfce looks pretty nice
[04:00] <M4D3X> i have terminal up
[04:00] <Storkme> is it possible to scroll in tty4?
[04:00] <M4D3X> do i paste this into it sudo apt-get install subversion cd ; svn checkout svn://freecontrib.org/easyubuntu gksudo easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py
[04:01] <Awesome-o2000> heck of a lot better than win98
[04:01] <moses> because i have a computer shop and i plan to transfer from xp to ubuntu
[04:01] <M4D3X> lol awesome
[04:01] <tuotuo> the easyubuntu doesn't go at all
[04:01] <moses> like i am the server and can shutdown other ubuntu pc on my network..
[04:01] <tuotuo> the package is corrupted
[04:01] <M4D3X> tuotuo you having prolems too?
[04:01] <garryF> M4D3X I would get it directly from http://users.on.net/~goetz/EasyUbuntu/ but bluefusion syas it is now fialing at the last step.
[04:01] <Awesome-o2000> moses, i just moved off of XP myself after the whole WGA debacle - I dont want anyone phoning home out of my system
[04:01] <tuotuo> yes
[04:02] <klue> If someone could answer a question about scim from a ubuntu newbie, it would be most appreciated :)
[04:02] <stefg> Inferus: so pull the stick out and reinsert again... if the firmware is in /lib/firmware it should be found. verify with dmesg again
[04:02] <garryF> sounds like its got a bug and been morphed into easybugtu for the time being.
[04:02] <M4D3X> garrf thing is, i dont know how to install it
[04:02] <moses> can i add some application for my network?
[04:02] <garryF> ye just type the script line or copy them into a terminal one line at a time
[04:02] <Inferus> stefg,
[04:02] <tuotuo> i have problem with scim too
[04:02] <tuotuo> i can't activer scim
[04:03] <garryF> er script lines
[04:03] <klue> then we might have the same problem
[04:03] <eitch0000> can someone tell me how must I go about creating a new linux-restricted-modules package when I've installed a new kernel from the ubuntu git-repo?
[04:03] <klue> there's now a scim button in the upper right corner. nothing happens when I click it, and ctrl+space won't trigger the scim panel
[04:03] <M4D3X> garrf thanks i didnt realise its paste one line at a time!!
[04:03] <garryF> I've never heard of doing that eitch0000
[04:03] <nekostar> great.
[04:04] <nekostar> now the repositories are down
[04:04] <garryF> Oh np. they don't tell ye.
[04:04] <M4D3X> its downloading garrf
[04:04] <eitch0000> well the wiki on ubuntu.com says those details will follow later... well I need em now =))
[04:04] <Inferus> stefg, its not working
[04:04] <garryF> OH if the repositories are down, easybuntu might not work
[04:04] <Inferus> and i copied it into the folder, i think
[04:04] <mc> is renaming dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list the right way to update?
[04:04] <garryF> er easyubuntu taht is
[04:04] <tuotuo> there is no scim button for me at all
[04:04] <M4D3X> im doing the second line garrf its doing something ;)
[04:04] <jrib> mc: you know edgy is broken right now?
[04:05] <moses> ok help me with ubuntu to ubuntu network connection
[04:05] <Inferus> ahh stefg
[04:05] <Inferus> craig@debix:~/Desktop$ sudo cp dvb-usb-avertv-a800-02.fw /lib/firmwire/2.6.15-23-386/dvb-usb-avertv-a800-02.fw
[04:05] <Inferus> cp: accessing `/lib/firmwire/2.6.15-23-386/dvb-usb-avertv-a800-02.fw': Not a directory
[04:05] <mc> jrib, totally broken?
[04:05] <jeroen_> hello all, how are u? i'm new to linux and i like to install limewire can someone help me>?
[04:05] <Inferus> any ideas?
[04:05] <moses> anybody pls
[04:05] <garryF> crosses fingers
[04:05] <moses> help
[04:05] <garryF> !emotes > garryf
[04:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about emotes
[04:05] <jrib> mc: it's in development, really at this point it only makes sense for devs to use
[04:05] <Inferus> doh
[04:05] <garryF> doh
[04:06] <klue> I can right click the button and change the scim settings, but I can't figure out how to start scim/get the input panel going
[04:06] <mc> jrib, mor in development then debian sid?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> !limewire > jeroen_
[04:06] <stefg> Inferus: I think it has to be directly in /lib/firmware... not a subfolder
[04:06] <mc> !limewire > mc
[04:06] <Inferus> hmm
[04:06] <Inferus> k
[04:06] <jeroen_> thx hobbsee and how do i install java?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> !java > jeroen_
[04:07] <cwillu> vncviewer is kinda really broken (fullscreen, espcially)
[04:07] <Inferus> yay stefg , it works!
[04:07] <Inferus> thanks
[04:07] <Inferus> :D
[04:07] <jrib> mc: I'm not really familiar with sid, but I know libc6 and gnome weren't working the other day
[04:07] <Jowi> moses: for the shutdown question, you can probably find a way to do it via ssh something like this: ssh admin@192.168.0.24 shutdown -h now
[04:07] <eitch0000> !java > eitch0000
[04:07] <mc> jrib, well ok thenn ill stay with dapper,thank you
[04:07] <moses> ok
[04:07] <garryF> !ssh > garryF
[04:08] <moses> Jowi i will try to shut it down..
[04:08] <stefg> Now get vlc 0.8.5 from http://nightlies.videolan.org and look for a fitting channles.conf.... open the channels.conf with vlc... voila
[04:10] <moses> this it what it said
[04:10] <moses> ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.101 port 22: No route to hos
[04:10] <garryF> Omg. I had no idea as quoted from ssh that telnet, ftp, etc unlike ssh transmit the data and password accross the net unencrypted. I should have realized. /smacks head.
[04:11] <M4D3X> it crashed!!
[04:11] <Jowi> moses: the ssh command assumes that the computer you are trying to connect to has got an ssh server running and that it allows you to make a connection to it
[04:11] <bluefusion> hey whats the default root password for 6.06 non-expert install
[04:11] <M4D3X> on second line of work
[04:11] <M4D3X> pc froze
[04:11] <garryF> Easybuntu crashed?
[04:11] <Low_E> lamego, thx for info on grub
[04:11] <M4D3X> ebuntu froze
[04:11] <eitch0000> bluefusion: there is none do: sudo passwd root
[04:11] <garryF> That might be because the repositories are down.
[04:11] <BASEman> trying to install kubuntu. have to resize an ntfs partition. using alternate install CD. automatic partionning fails. manually selecting "resize..." asks me if I want to perform those undoable changes but I haven't specified a size yet. what's wrong?
[04:11] <jrib> ubotu: tell bluefusion about root
[04:11] <lamego> np :)
[04:12] <bluefusion> garryF: yep it won't run under sudo and can't install otherwise because not root
[04:12] <M4D3X> whats better ebuntu or kbuntu
[04:12] <muep> bluefusion: sudo -s
[04:12] <xiaochuan> E:  ttf-arphic-uming
[04:12] <lamego> M4D3X, they server different purposes, your question doesn't make sense
[04:12] <lamego> serve
[04:12] <moses> Jowi how can i execute the c:/windows/system32/shutdown.exe from the computer on my network?
[04:12] <M4D3X> ah, is ebuntu better for new user?
[04:13] <Jowi> moses: no idea.
[04:13] <muep> M4D3X: ebuntu?
[04:13] <M4D3X> its my first day with ebuntu and linux
[04:13] <bluefusion> doesnt work (sudo -s)
[04:13] <M4D3X> im trying to cram as much info into my head as poss ;)
[04:13] <garryF> dunno what ebuntu is.
[04:13] <moses> ok
[04:13] <moses> thanks man
[04:13] <M4D3X> ubuntu
[04:13] <xiaochuan> ... ... 
[04:13] <M4D3X> !!!
[04:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[04:13] <xiaochuan>  E:  scim !!!  Please help
[04:13] <M4D3X> sorry
[04:13] <moses> where are you from?
[04:13] <jrib> bluefusion: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[04:13] <garryF> there is edbutu an education oriented linux
[04:13] <jrib> !ch
[04:13] <lamego> M4D3X is for education, schools oriented
[04:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ch
[04:13] <klue> looks to me like you've got scim working
[04:13] <muep> M4D3X: basic ubuntu is best for most newcomers
[04:14] <jrib> !zh
[04:14] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:14] <moses> hmmm i really need to know how to shutdown other ubuntu pc
[04:14] <moses> or freeze them rather
[04:14] <bluefusion> echoes hi
[04:14] <M4D3X> what does kbuntu do?
[04:14] <lamego> moses, this channel is not for playinger hacker, please leave
[04:14] <muep> M4D3X: it has KDE, not gnome
[04:14] <M4D3X> that is?
[04:14] <jrib> bluefusion: ok so what are you trying to do?
[04:14] <moses> hmmm anyway... freeze and shutdown is all i need to learn for me to be able to run all of my pc an ubuntu
[04:14] <lamego> M4D3X, what about reading the main pages of the distributions you plan to use ?
[04:14] <muep> M4D3X: a different desktop environment
[04:14] <muep> M4D3X: different default programs
[04:14] <M4D3X> well i did
[04:14] <Jowi> moses: c:/windows/system32/shutdown.exe is not on another ubuntu machine
[04:15] <moses> yeah
[04:15] <moses> its an xp
[04:15] <M4D3X> still didnt get purpose of either
[04:15] <bluefusion> run easyubuntu.py script as root. its a nonexpert install so i don't have the root password. it doesn't work under sudo.
[04:15] <muep> M4D3X: some people just want KDE and not gnome
[04:15] <Jowi> moses: so see if there is a windows help channel somewhere
[04:15] <moses> Jowi all i need to learn is to freeze my other computers on the network
[04:15] <moses> yeah
[04:15] <jrib> bluefusion: gksudo ./easyubuntu.py
[04:15] <M4D3X> muep whats kde and gnome?
[04:15] <Stormx2> HAI!
[04:15] <lamego> M4D3X, kubuntu is a generic linux OS based on Ubuntu but with KDE, edbuntu is for education, it includes programas for education envinroments like schools
[04:16] <moses> but i will do it on an ubuntu also since i plan to change my xp puters to ubuntu
[04:16] <M4D3X> ah right
[04:16] <dngldoof> hola
[04:16] <M4D3X> im using ubuntu
[04:16] <jimcooncat> hi, preparing for dapper, scp'd home directory to laptop, how to verify files transferred correctly?
[04:16] <muep> M4D3X: they are desktop environments, they have their own file managers and menus... they also look very different, especially with default settings
[04:16] <lamego> jimcooncat, a quick check would be to du -sk both the local and remote copy and see if they match
[04:16] <M4D3X> i see muep, would you say kbuntu is better?
[04:16] <moses> Jowi i just wonder if i can still do the same thing like what i am doing with my network
[04:16] <jimcooncat> thanks lamego !
[04:16] <muep> M4D3X: I wouldn't but it is a matter of taste
[04:16] <lamego> M4D3X, they are differente, there is no better or worse !!!
[04:16] <moses> there are only two of them Jowi
[04:17] <dngldoof> is anyone using Hercules Gametheater XP on Ubuntu?
[04:17] <Jowi> moses: most likely no. ubuntu is not windows
[04:17] <Okita> I've tried and failed miserably at getting backspace to not spit out ^? on vim over ssh
[04:17] <Stormx2> M4D3X: Matter of preference. I don't like kubuntu, but the people in #kubuntu would say different
[04:17] <bluefusion> garry
[04:17] <M4D3X> i like the fact there are two deviances of this
[04:17] <bluefusion> F
[04:17] <bluefusion> garryF
[04:17] <M4D3X> im starting to fall in love with linux
[04:17] <moses> JOwi
[04:17] <M4D3X> just wish i knew what the hell i am doing
[04:17] <muep> M4D3X: there is also xubuntu with the XFCE4 desktop
[04:17] <moses> what i mean is i am gonna change my xp to ubuntu tomorrow
[04:17] <M4D3X> i see
[04:17] <xiaochuan> Why all the software are not found !!!!E:  fcitx
[04:17] <Stormx2> M4D3X: :D Good. I already have. I hate it when I have to use WinXP for stuff
[04:17] <Okita> Anyone know what the deal is?  I've messed with .profile, .bashrc, and all that
[04:17] <oezguer> anyone can help me about laptop web cam?
[04:17] <muep> M4D3X: for starters, gnome is good
[04:17] <moses> all of my pc's will be ubuntu..
[04:18] <Jowi> moses: so what? right now it is XP.
[04:18] <moses> for my internet shop
[04:18] <moses> yah.. now before i change it
[04:18] <Stormx2> oezguer: Webcams are tricky
[04:18] <M4D3X> i cant see why ubuntu hasnt taken over the world yet
[04:18] <Jowi> moses: see a windows support channel for windows questions
[04:18] <lamego> Okita, you can copy them standard ones from /etc/skel
[04:18] <Stormx2> !tell oezguer about webcam
[04:18] <M4D3X> i can  see what a problem microsoft is becoming
[04:18] <jrib> bluefusion: it should work with sudo, what happens why you try?
[04:18] <moses> i have to be sure that i can also freeze the ubuntu
[04:18] <oezguer> my cam works at amsn  but  at night  very dark :(
[04:18] <jimcooncat> lamego, strange, target's bigger than the source
[04:18] <M4D3X> they aer ruining freedom
[04:18] <moses> no more windows question
[04:18] <lamego> M4D3X, could tou stop the dumb comments ? we really dont care on what you think about world domination
[04:18] <moses> Jowi
[04:19] <oezguer> anyprogram  for webcam? to fix my cam
[04:19] <Stormx2> oezguer: So you want to put the brightness up? or something?
[04:19] <Stormx2> !webcam
[04:19] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:19] <oezguer> stormx2: yesssss
[04:19] <erUSUL> !tell M4D3X about offtopic
[04:19] <moses> Jowi i am going to be pure ubuntu tomorrow
[04:19] <Okita> lamego: Copy what from there? I don't have any config files
[04:19] <lamego> jimcooncat, well, it is strange, but it would be worse the way around ;)
[04:19] <M4D3X> thanks and sorry for being a pain!
[04:19] <moses> but i have to be sure that i can freeze the pc on the network
[04:19] <oezguer> stormx2: my cam works very good now but  at night very dark,,
[04:19] <moses> like a server
[04:19] <jimcooncat> can I do some kind of diff/
[04:20] <lamego> Okita, you have "damaged" your .bashrc files, is that your problem ?
[04:20] <Jowi> moses: please read what I said earlier. linux is not windows
[04:20] <bluefusion> jrib: where pastebin address
[04:20] <jrib> bluefusion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:20] <bluefusion> ta
[04:20] <moses> yes i know Jowi
[04:20] <Okita> lamego: No, I can't figure out why I keep getting ^? when I hit backspace in vim
[04:20] <lamego> jimcooncat, you could usr rsync, rsync does diff based sincronization
[04:20] <Stormx2> M4D3X: Well yeah... Lots of people hate ms but apart from write to bill gates (I actually did... saying that Vista should have an option to preserve current bootloaded) theres not much you can do. Anyway, offtopic really.
[04:20] <jimcooncat> thanks La_PaRCa
[04:20] <lamego> jimcooncat, rsync is based on the file size and timestamp
[04:20] <neutrinomass> jrib: Is there a specific reason paste.ubuntu-nl.org is used and not pastebin.com ?
[04:20] <jimcooncat> I meant thanks lamego
[04:20] <Stormx2> oezguer: See what ubotu just said? Follow those links!
[04:20] <sarixe> how do i setup grub on /dev/sda?
[04:20] <jrib> neutrinomass: nope
[04:20] <moses> Jowi the question is.. i am using an ubuntu, can i freeze other ubuntu pc on my network?
[04:21] <M4D3X> so easybuntu is not working now
[04:21] <moses> if their time runs out i should freeze the pc so no over time.. Jowi
[04:21] <afflux> re...
[04:21] <moses> Jowi that's what i need
[04:21] <Jowi> moses: yes. if you make that other ubuntu pc allow it.
[04:21] <moses> ok
[04:21] <moses> Jowi i will allow it..
[04:21] <bluefusion> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16440 is result of running it under sudo
[04:21] <neutrinomass> moses: Freeze ? Log the user out, shut down the systme, what do you want ?
[04:22] <bluefusion> it works without sudo part
[04:22] <oezguer> stormx2: i m doing,, thanxxxx
[04:22] <mrmist> small question: When connection my laptop to my CRT screen, I'd like the resolution to change automatically. Any way to configure this ?
[04:22] <moses> Jowi is it easy? i will not find the answer now, but tomorrow.. i am just on the plan
[04:22] <bluefusion> but not to install anything
[04:22] <sarixe> this is critical..... how do i setup grub on /dev/sda?  i have /boot on /dev/sda3 and / on /dev/sda1 and swap on /dev/sda4.
[04:22] <gratefulfrog> anyone know why an ap can't find libuuid.so.1 on 64bit ubuntu?
[04:22] <jrib> bluefusion: what version are you running?
[04:22] <moses> neutrinomass freeze.. like a server on an internet shop.. i will unfreeze it once the customer says he is gonna extend his credit
[04:23] <bluefusion> version? ubuntu 6.06
[04:23] <Jowi> moses: I gave you an example to shut down a computer. It depends on your needs. if you are looking for a internet-cafe administration program that freezes an account based on a timer, I'm sure there are programs like that available. but I have no experience with them.
[04:23] <jrib> bluefusion: of easyubuntu
[04:23] <spool> hello, despite having installed build-essential (and namely libc6-dev), i can't find stdio.h
[04:23] <neutrinomass> moses: OK, lock screen maybe ?
[04:23] <moses> ok thanks a lot Jowi
[04:23] <jrib> bluefusion: 3.0, nightly, or bleeding edge?
[04:23] <bluefusion> latest version downloaded through instructions on site
[04:23] <moses> neutrinomass exactly!
[04:23] <neutrinomass> moses: I don't know of a way to "freeze" ...
[04:23] <spool> is this the place for help?
[04:23] <lamego> mrmist, I don't believe linux "realizes" that a crt was connected
[04:23] <bluefusion> ah. bleeding edge
[04:23] <lamego> spool, yes
[04:24] <jrib> bluefusion: try using 3.0
[04:24] <spool> encouraging
[04:24] <bluefusion> ?
[04:24] <moses> neutrinomass lock screen then.. and when he extends time credit then to unlock screen again
[04:24] <jrib> bluefusion: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html the first one is stable
[04:24] <spool> interestingly, cpp works fine
[04:24] <neutrinomass> moses: Hm... maybe you could try editing the user's .bashrc
[04:24] <sarixe> anyone?  i can't get grub to install on /dev/sda
[04:24] <sarixe> running 6.06 amd64
[04:24] <poopsock> can anyone help me with lowering my refresh rate
[04:24] <bluefusion> ta
[04:24] <lamego> spool, locate stdio.h
[04:24] <Berge> sarixe: grub-install /dev/sda doesn't work?
[04:25] <sarixe> no
[04:25] <Berge> sarixe: Do you get any response? Error messages?
[04:25] <neutrinomass> moses: Though sorry, I'm not experienced with internet cafe administration. Instead of the hack that I am proposing, you might want to search for administration tools as Jowi suggested ...
[04:25] <sarixe> yes
[04:25] <lamego> spockboy, stdio.h does get installed with libc
[04:25] <lamego> erm, spool
[04:25] <mrmist> lamego: It resolves the different screens name !? Wouldn't it be as simple as to make a separate configuration with each screen name or something ?
[04:25] <spool> /usr/lib/perl/5.8.7/CORE/nostdio.h
[04:25] <jimcooncat> Anyone have docs on what to back up to do a clean install upgrade?
[04:25] <moses> i see.. im very dumb.. i am good on xp but a newbie on ubuntu.. so far, the only thing i need is 2
[04:25] <sarixe> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:25] <Berge> sarixe: You'd be better off by telling us what it says (-:
[04:25] <poopsock> i only have options for 85hz refresh at 1024x768
[04:25] <moses> 1. is to lock screen 2. shutdown that's all
[04:25] <jrib> ubotu: tell poopsock about fixres
[04:25] <sarixe> i'm on the desktop cd right now
[04:25] <spool> except I can find it myself...
[04:25] <Berge> sarixe: And /boot is mounted?
[04:25] <bluefusion> jrib: yay it work thx:-D
[04:25] <sarixe> it is
[04:25] <funkmaster> which are the libaries and headers for lame in ubuntu?
[04:25] <moses> yeah
[04:25] <moses> ok
[04:26] <moses> thanks
[04:26] <Berge> sarixe: How did you boot your system without grub?
[04:26] <lamego> spool, I have stdio.h which I guess cames from libc6
[04:26] <lamego> comes
[04:26] <sarixe> livecd
[04:26] <sarixe> desktop
[04:26] <Berge> sarixe: Ah, then you want to use a chroot.
[04:26] <sarixe> oh
[04:26] <sarixe> ok
[04:26] <spool> it should be from libc6-dev
[04:26] <spool> but zeah
[04:26] <sarixe> then it will recognize /boot
[04:26] <spool> ... yeah
[04:26] <sarixe> ?
[04:26] <jrib> !enter
[04:26] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:26] <poopsock> thanks
[04:26] <moses> if i can get a yes answer with those two problems then i'll hop to ubuntu
[04:26] <moses> thanks guys
[04:26] <Berge> sarixe: Yep, if you mount correctly.
[04:26] <sarixe> thanks
[04:26] <Daniel0> how can i see which processes that are using most of the system resources?
[04:27] <garryF> Back. I know that I'm coming in late, but are you talking about locking the screen as when a screensaver starts? There is that option available.
[04:27] <funkmaster> daniel0: top
[04:27] <Davidou> Daniel0, -> top
[04:27] <Davidou> ^^
[04:27] <mc> are there xorg7.1 packages avaible?
[04:27] <moses> bye guys
[04:27] <spool> I can find it in /usr/include/
[04:27] <jrib> Daniel0: system > administration > system monitor  as well
[04:27] <spool> but locate doesnt seem to register it
[04:27] <Daniel0> ok thanks all three
[04:27] <jrib> spool: sudo updatedb
[04:27] <Jowi> good luck moses
[04:27] <lamego> spool: ls -la /usr/include/stdio.h
[04:28] <spool> alright, updatedb is going
[04:28] <spool> hold on
[04:29] <moses> Jowi i think i have to install ubuntu for them first before searching for the freeze and shutdown stuff thanks guys!! have a nice day..
[04:29] <garryF> I'm not sure, but the dappper repositories appear to be back up.
[04:29] <spool> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27936 2006-05-21 19:32 /usr/include/stdio.h
[04:29] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[04:29] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[04:29] <yallaman>  why has this suddenly happened..it worked before..and i havent touched the xorg.conf file
[04:29] <jrib> yallaman: before what?
[04:29] <nekostar> bah
[04:29] <nekostar> i need to get unicode off my ubuntu
[04:29] <spool> hey hey, it shows up in locate now
[04:29] <spool> let me try compiling
[04:29] <Berge> nekostar: That would impose a problem.
[04:30] <nekostar> this is getting really annoying and locales is in my opinion broke
[04:30] <yallaman> didnt work when i booted now
[04:30] <garryF> Yeah, yallaman had it all working fine yesterday before signing off.
[04:30] <nekostar> i get unicode chars showing in dapper
[04:30] <nekostar> where i didnt in any of the previous releses
[04:30] <nekostar> and its really ugly
[04:30] <spool> no luck...
[04:30] <Berge> nekostar: Where and how?
[04:30] <garryF> I know, we both went through the mill trying to get it working.
[04:30] <lamego> spool, finding includes during compilation has nothing to do with locate/updatedb
[04:30] <nekostar> box box box box  box
[04:30] <gridblock> Hey
[04:30] <Berge> nekostar: Ubuntu is (supposed to be) Unicode all the way.
[04:30] <spool> well i figured...
[04:30] <Berge> nekostar: Which IMHO is a good thing.
[04:30] <nekostar> its the application of it.
[04:30] <gridblock> When iam playing music it is much crappier quality than windows
[04:31] <jrib> spool: what are you trying to compile?
[04:31] <Berge> nekostar: What application?
[04:31] <spool> just a hello world
[04:31] <nekostar> in my apps when ever there is one of those special chars like ctrl+k its crap
[04:31] <lamego> spool, #include <stdio.h>  should be fine
[04:31] <nekostar> xchat
[04:31] <nekostar> gaim
[04:31] <lamego> spool, please pastebin your hello word
[04:31] <nekostar> dunno what else atm
[04:31] <gridblock> instert namespace
[04:31] <garryF> yallaman: MIght try what worked last time, reinstall the xgl and glx etc, but sure would like to know why it suddenly stopped working.
[04:31] <spool> you can actually see my post on ubuntuforums.org (programming talk, cant find clibs)
[04:31] <Berge> nekostar: What locale are you running?
[04:32] <spool> username mepapp
[04:32] <Berge> nekostar: I.e, what Language do you choose from GDM?
[04:32] <lamego> nekostar, it is not crasp, is is the ascii code corresponding with the combination key, the irc used ascii code
[04:32] <spool> but I can pastebin if you prefer
[04:32] <yallaman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16442 :my xorg.conf  take a look..but i dont see much wrong..
[04:32] <moses> hello guys another question
[04:32] <garryF> yallaman: Looking at it.
[04:32] <gridblock> using namespace std;
[04:32] <moses> is there a network games for ubuntu? with the built in games
[04:32] <lamego> spool, post the link
[04:32] <nekostar> went from en_US.UTF8 UTF8 >>> en_US.ISO-8859-1
[04:32] <Berge> moses: Lots.
[04:33] <garryF> The load "dri" is commented out yallaman!
[04:33] <lamego> moses, there are plenty of games for linux, you can start by looking into the apps menu
[04:33] <yallaman> was last night too
[04:33] <Berge> nekostar: Then all UTF-8-encoded characters will show up weird.
[04:33] <nekostar> ive tried redefining my system fonts and rebooting into the new enviornmental font and thats no good
[04:33] <spool> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201961&page=2
[04:33] <spool> last 3
[04:33] <nekostar> Berge, thats the whole damn point here, they already did.
[04:33] <zamarronstein> hi
[04:33] <nekostar> and do.
[04:33] <garryF> Try uncommenting it out.
[04:33] <zamarronstein> how r u?
[04:33] <yallaman> i tried to enable it aswell..didnt do any diffrence
[04:34] <Berge> nekostar: Yes, I got that part. Why would you want something else than unicode?
[04:34] <zamarronstein> i am new ubuntu user
[04:34] <nekostar> to get RID OF THE CHARS
[04:34] <lamego> spockboy, yeasy, you have extra spaces on the include
[04:34] <nekostar> they are UGLY and messing up my xchat
[04:34] <lamego> i mean spool
[04:34] <lamego> it is not #include <"space"stdio.h>
[04:34] <spool> oh christ...
[04:34] <nekostar> im in a few chans that have color codes in the chan names and it makes em HUGE
[04:34] <nekostar> screws things up
[04:34] <nekostar> not to mention the ugly thing again
[04:35] <garryF> I have a feeling that xgl/compiz and dri is not palying nice together.
[04:35] <Berge> nekostar: That sounds like a problem with xchat, not with Unicode-support.
[04:35] <garryF> er are not that is.
[04:35] <nekostar> debian does NOT have this problem.
[04:35] <zamarronstein> i have learn linux for use ubuntu?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> nekostar: i dont think thats UTF-8 causing that
[04:35] <nekostar> nor does the older versions of ubuntu
[04:35] <gnomefreak> nekostar: change the setting in xchat
[04:35] <Kaja> You can change xchat's charset in it's settings =)
[04:35] <nekostar> doesnt help
[04:35] <Berge> nekostar: That depends. You can certainly have locales-problems on Debian (-:
[04:35] <nekostar> Berge, sure one can
[04:35] <nekostar> but ive never had one
[04:35] <gnomefreak> nekostar: its not UTF-8 that causes that and breezy did have UTF-8 suopport
[04:35] <nekostar> sure it did
[04:36] <nekostar> and its implementation of those chars was not to display them.
[04:36] <nekostar> [by default] 
[04:36] <gnomefreak> nekostar: it did for me
[04:36] <nekostar> if i cant get that back im done with this pos
[04:36] <moses> yah
[04:36] <M4D3X> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[04:36] <moses> lamego
[04:36] <moses> how about online games?
[04:36] <M4D3X> for those who are trying to get easybuntu
[04:36] <M4D3X> and try www.warsow.net
[04:37] <spool> http://www.physics.drexel.edu/courses/Comp_Phys/General/C_basics/c_tutorial.html
[04:37] <M4D3X> for the linux up and coming game
[04:37] <spool> ... I hadn't programmed in 6 years
[04:37] <spool> decided to go through a tutorial
[04:37] <lamego> there are some small network games
[04:37] <yallaman> restarting x..to test somthing..brb
[04:37] <Berge> nekostar: I'm still a bit confused about your troubles: You chaged locales from utf8 to latin1, and after that xchat broke?
[04:37] <spool> skipped the space because that's what I remembered, thinking it was a typo in his code
[04:37] <garryF> yallaman: The dri stuff at the end is also missing and I see a line called renderaccel Last I saw if it was not followed by "True" or "true" or something like that, it would default tof alse.
[04:38] <lamego> nekostar, i am using iso-88591-15 on xchat and I don't have your problem
[04:38] <spool> then realized he did it everywhere
[04:38] <spool> thanks so much
[04:38] <lamego> np :)
[04:38] <garryF> yallaman  The dri stuff at the end is also missing and I see a line called renderaccel Last I saw if it was not followed by "True" or "true" or something like that, it would default tof alse.
[04:38] <jrib> I use GNOME and I have to manually create an mcop directory to prevent things like gaim from crashing when they try to play sounds (I do: mkdir /tmp/ksocket-$USER).  What should be creating this?
[04:39] <lamego> jrib, I had the same problem after installing some KDE libs, i believe it is related to KDE arts sound system
[04:39] <jrib> lamego: so do you have to manually create it as well?
[04:40] <lamego> jrib, i only had troubles with gaim, on the gaim case there is a setup option to force it to use another soynd system
[04:40] <lamego> jrib, it is somewhere on the gaim faq :|
[04:40] <J-_> hey, how's it going? I have a problem, which wasn't a problem before. I go to paste a picture in usr/share/pixmaps and i need root priviledges, now before I pasted a picture about 30 minutes ago. what do i need to do, how do i identify myself?
[04:40] <tuku> Hi... I'm having problems to mount ntfs partiton.Well I get it mounted, but can read it only by sudo...
[04:40] <yallaman> renderaccel is gone and i added section "dri" and load dri..didnt make a diffrence at all
[04:40] <jrib> lamego: ah I see, guess I shouldn't use ``automatic''.  Thanks
[04:41] <lamego> tuku, you will need to add an umask= or user= option on the mounts
[04:41] <zamarronstein> hi friends
[04:41] <pwuertz> hi, i got a very high sound delay when using alsa+sdl... how can I fix this?
[04:41] <tuku> heres line from fstab./dev/hda6       /media/mf	ntfs	nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[04:41] <garryF> say yallaman Here is my xorg again for comparison. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16444 I'd make a backup copy of your xconfig when you get it working. I think you want to keep the renderaccel
[04:41] <garryF> yallaman Here is my xorg again for comparison. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16444 I'd make a backup copy of your xconfig when you get it working. I think you want to keep the renderaccel
[04:41] <lamego> tuku, umask=0000 will give you full permissions to everyone
[04:42] <marteh> hey guys, i'm trying to rip a cd using sound juicer, but when i press the extract button it just says "Sound juicer could not extract this CD. Reason: File not found". I've searched for a solution on google but i can't seem to find anything, and i can even playback the CD so i know the CD isn't damaged. Any other ideas?
[04:42] <tuku> ok I try that
[04:42] <lamego> you will need to remount...
[04:42] <nekostar> lamego, still no good
[04:42] <nekostar> :/
[04:42] <zamarronstein> do you want play mp3?
[04:42] <lamego> i get a nice 003 char when i press ctrl.k here
[04:42] <garryF> What is the command to make linux slam me in the face with an iron fist when I forget to put a / in front of /say?
[04:42] <zamarronstein> do you want to play mp3?
[04:43] <J-_> hey, how's it going? I have a problem, which wasn't a problem before. I go to paste a picture in usr/share/pixmaps and i need root priviledges, now before I pasted a picture about 30 minutes ago. what do i need to do, how do i identify myself?
[04:43] <J-_> i've tried su, didn't work.
[04:43] <LjL> !sudo
[04:43] <ubotu> sudo is is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:43] <Jowi> J-_: sudo
[04:43] <lamego> J-_, you can "sudo nautilus"
[04:43] <garryF> Just some name above the send button.
[04:43] <zamarronstein> sudo -s
[04:43] <J-_> thanks.
[04:43] <tuku> Not it works....thaks a lot lamego
[04:44] <nekostar> mebbie utf != unicode ??
[04:44] <nekostar> anyone ?
[04:44] <linux_user400354> how do i add a directory to my path?
[04:44] <winman> alright, any nice voice enabled gtalk clients for ubuntu?
[04:45] <Kaja> utf-8 is a way to present unicode
[04:45] <LjL> linux_user400354: export PATH=blah:$PATH
[04:45] <Jowi> utf = unicode
[04:45] <winman> utf != unicode
[04:45] <LjL> linux_user400354: may i ask you why you want to do that, though?
[04:45] <lamego> for the system path you can use /etc/profile
[04:45] <LjL> UTF is an encoding that can encode Unicode characters
[04:46] <nekostar> ok
[04:46] <marteh> can anyone help?
[04:46] <garryF> Hmm, that description of sudo is ambiguous. It sounds like it is a command to let any user run as root when its a command to allow the issuing user to run a command as root.
[04:46] <nekostar> lemme boot into 8859-15
[04:46] <lamego> !anyone
[04:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:47] <The_Guardian> does anyone............know where I left my pants? :(
[04:47] <winman> seems like people are complaining that topiaco has problems with ubuntu
[04:47] <slew> check the bathroom.
[04:47] <LjL> garryF: are you referring to Ubotu's reply? note that Ubotu just gives quick hints, it's not supposed to be 100% theoretically correct on its answers i think
[04:47] <Jowi> The_Guardian: probably in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:47] <Jowi> :)
[04:47] <slew> =] 
[04:47] <garryF> LjL Yeah.
[04:48] <kristian> if i have installed the ati driver with easy ubuntu, how can i check it's really installed?
[04:48] <boredom> I have a question for anyone to answer, I have a Philips Semiconductors SAA7133 capture card, and it keeps trying to take over my sound card which is a sound blaster live, how can I fix this?
[04:48] <The_Guardian> jokekiller :P, how well does ubuntu handle installation of packages btw? I had morphix and phlak on earlier, but both went nuts when I installed anything.
[04:49] <lamego> kristian, you could look at /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[04:49] <linux_user400354> LjL i added something to my path twice by accident. how can i remove something from my path?
[04:49] <lamego> on the driver section there should be flgrx instead of ati
[04:49] <J-_> so if i use sudo in the terminal, will i be able to use the gui to navigate to the folder i need to?
[04:49] <Jowi> boredom: you should be able to select one of the card as default with asoundconf. I can not verify this since i have only 1 card.
[04:49] <lamego> linux_user400354, if you are using the export command, it is a temporary change
[04:50] <garryF> so reboot if I recall should fix it. I've done that before. LjL
[04:50] <LjL> linux_user400354: like lamego said. also, "export PATH=anything" will set PATH to what you like. just issue "echo $PATH" to see what your path is *currently* like
[04:50] <garryF> or maybe logout
[04:50] <lamego> or just end that shell
[04:50] <linux_user400354> how can i add a permanent
[04:51] <linux_user400354> change to my path
[04:51] <kristian> lamego, there is nothing... sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf right?
[04:51] <lamego> linux_user400354, could you answer the question from ljl , why do you need that ?
[04:51] <LjL> garryF: err sorry, fix what?
[04:51] <dr_willis> linux_user400354,  could edit your .bashrc or .bash_profile and set it there
[04:51] <dr_willis> !abs
[04:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about abs
[04:51] <garryF> LjL sorry, mis tell. I was saying rebooting might fix that users path.
[04:51] <lamego> kristian, sure, but its xorg.conf
[04:52] <funkmaster> after i compiled sumthing, how can i make a package out of it?
[04:52] <winman> seems like tapioca and ubuntu breezy go together .. just fine :)
[04:52] <dr_willis> linux_user400354,  a read of that advance bash guide, or other bash tutorials will explain the use of export PATH= to ya.
[04:52] <LjL> garryF: ah, yeah. but no need. the new path is just local to the current shell. just exiting the shell will make it go away
[04:52] <garryF> I thought tapioca was a desert.
[04:52] <basschimp> hi all
[04:52] <kristian> lamego, and ?
[04:52] <garryF> LjL Oh. Thanks!
[04:53] <lamego> kristian, type grep "fglrx" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <lamego> it should retunr one line with the text
[04:53] <garryF> !tapioca > garryF
[04:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about tapioca
[04:53] <garryF> Its sweet.
[04:53] <basschimp> quick question: i connect to the internet through a router, and my gf's laptop also connects to the internet through this router, but by wireless. how much hassle should it be to see each other's computers on a LAN?
[04:53] <lamego> basschimp, if they connect to the same router, they should br already "seeing" each other
[04:53] <nekostar> SHYTE
[04:54] <bcl> basschimp, depnds on whether the wireless is using the same subnet as the LAN.
[04:54] <nekostar> where can i find the character map
[04:54] <Jowi> basschimp: depends on what you mean by "seeing". samba or nfs will let you share files
[04:54] <bcl> basschimp, what do the two IPs look like?
[04:54] <basschimp> lamego, so i thought. i can see a Windows Network from this box, but no computers on it, and same goes for her
[04:55] <basschimp> my router is 192.168.0.1 and i'm ...2, but pinging ....3 has no response
[04:55] <bcl> basschimp, so .3 is the GF's laptop? It may be a firewall issue.
[04:56] <Jowi> basschimp: if 192.168.0.3 is a windows box, then it might be its firewall that is blocking it. if not, make sure you have the same workgroup setting
[04:56] <Jowi> basschimp: (will have no impact on ping but on the shares btw)
[04:56] <nekostar> 
[04:56] <C_REATiVE_> re
[04:58] <ocr> I'm set to install openssh-server on this Ubuntu 6.06 server running some cPanel thing.. It doesn't have apt-get installed, nor sshd, nor telnetd. So I did an evil rootshell through inetd now, and was wondering how to install apt or similar through commandline, suggestions?
[04:58] <rafael> hi everybody, I,m new with ubuntu.
[04:58] <bcl> Where's the best guide for getting VMware workstation running on Ubuntu 5.10 -- I always seem to have trouble of one sort or another.
[04:58] <LjL> !vmware
[04:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:58] <lamego> ocr, it will be hard to manager a server without apt-get
[04:59] <lamego> bcl, I would recommend the player
[04:59] <ocr> lamego: it has webmin installed, thats how i managed to inject the rootshell into inetd
[04:59] <basschimp> ok, she can ping me fine
[04:59] <rafael> I want to change back the network icon in the task bar to its original look
[04:59] <garryF> apt-get install apt-get j/k
[04:59] <darius_> The menu on my panel got moved (Applications / Places / System) where it's munged between launchers on the right side of my screen.  How can I move the menu back to the far left?
[04:59] <bcl> lamego, why the player? You can only use images with it.
[04:59] <rafael> right now i have a do not enter sign
[04:59] <basschimp> and ipconfig has her as ...3
[04:59] <ocr> whats the package that contains apt?
[04:59] <basschimp> and she's not firewalled
[04:59] <Jowi> basschimp: then it is very likely her firewall.
[05:00] <Jowi> bbl
[05:00] <ocr> i bet i could do a tar xzvf package.tgz /
[05:00] <lamego> bcl, because its free ? because it is on the ubuntu repositories ? because you can create images with a text editor or from a web page ? Because you only need to create images once ?
[05:00] <basschimp> it's just windows firewall, and it's disabled
[05:00] <rafael> this is the message i get
[05:00] <rafael> Please contact your system administrator to resolve the following problem:
[05:00] <rafael> SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device
[05:00] <eegore> ok I am impessed, that was the smoothest install I have ever experienced
[05:01] <bcl> lamego, I already own VMware so I don't care about free.
[05:01] <bcl> lamego, but easy gets my attention :)
[05:01] <lamego> beeing on the multiverse makes it much easier to install :)
[05:02] <eegore> I am really f*&%ing impressed
[05:02] <kristian> lamego, write exactly what i shall write... :P i've tried a lot of things, but everytime a black page comes up..
[05:02] <eitch0000> lamego: naa, after the kerne-headers are installed, it's three easy steps to install vmware
[05:02] <lamego> kristian, did you typed the grep command, copy paste from my line ?
[05:03] <lamego> eitch0000, well, vmwareplayer is even easier, one command :)
[05:03] <kristian> grep fglrx /etc and so?
[05:03] <eitch0000> true
[05:03] <lamego> kristian, yes
[05:03] <RyanTMulligan> Has anyone tried to go from 64bit ubuntu mack to 32bit?
[05:03] <eegore> Could someone tell me where I can add the lauch terminal option from right clicking on the desk top in Dapper?
[05:03] <RyanTMulligan> back*
[05:03] <LjL> yep, vmplayer is the very best for lazy people who find qemu too slow, under ubuntu
[05:03] <lamego> RyanTMulligan, the only wait to do that is reinstalling the system...
[05:03] <Solarion> morning
[05:04] <lamego> LjL, I am not lazy and I find quemy VERY slow
[05:04] <RyanTMulligan> lamego: Why's that?
[05:04] <lamego> qemu
[05:04] <Solarion> Intereting problem: I have an intel graphics chip, and it runs great....
[05:04] <kristian> "no such file i directory"
[05:04] <Solarion> *except* that it somehow overdrives the monitor when running things full-screen.
[05:04] <basschimp> thanks guys
[05:04] <lamego> RyanTMulligan, because 32bits and 32bits binaries don't go together with 64bits ? unless you setup a 32bits chroot environment
[05:04] <suppaman> hi
[05:04] <rafael> Hi everybody I need some help!!!
[05:04] <neutrinomass> Solarion: If it's a software issue, file a bug ;)
[05:04] <lamego> i mean, 32 bits kernel and bins
[05:05] <Solarion> neutrinomass: I've no idea
[05:05] <Solarion> it's very very strange
[05:05] <lamego> kristian, you are doing some typo, please copy paste from here
[05:05] <RyanTMulligan> lamego: Like compile a 32bit kernel and binaries?
[05:05] <Solarion> I was just checking to see if it's been a common problem
[05:05] <lamego> grep "fglrx" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <LjL> lamego: i meant, people who are lazy *and* who find qemu too slow. i wasn't implying people who find qemu slow are lazy
[05:05] <lamego> LjL, ok, that sounds much better :P
[05:06] <suppaman> I'm getting this while installing linux-image-2.6.15-25-k7
[05:06] <suppaman> /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: line 137:  9401 Segmentation fault      cp -a /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/* ${DESTDIR}/scripts
[05:06] <kristian> lamego, nothing happend, just jumped a line down..?
[05:06] <lamego> suppaman, that really looks bad
[05:06] <Solarion> ubuntu on this pc absolutely r0x0rz
[05:06] <lamego> kristian, so you are not using the accelarated driver
[05:06] <Solarion> of course, I put it together as a Linux desktop, so I made sure it was compatible.  :)
[05:06] <J-_> finally, the damn thing worked... =D almost had to torch my tuxbox
[05:06] <Solarion> yay for no crap vendors!
[05:06] <lamego> the diver maybe installed, but you are not using it
[05:07] <kristian> oh.. how do i start using it?
[05:07] <slew> ok, i did what the wiki said to about getting java, i added it from the add/remove menu, but java games and such dont work in firefox. where do i find the answer?
[05:07] <lamego> kristian, fist you should get familian in using a text mode editor, just in case something goes wrong
[05:07] <kditty> is it possible to install windows onto a machine that is already running ubuntu for a dual boot?
[05:07] <suppaman> lamego: really, then when I restart the kernel cannot mount root fs
[05:07] <eitch0000> kristian: what happens, when you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the line that says Driver "ati" or whatever driver you're using now to fglrx
[05:07] <lamego> kristian, on a terminal, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <J-_> now, for another question. how can i get my external hard drive to work with linux? i was told a while ago i had to install a driver of some sort?
[05:08] <Solarion> kditty: pretty sure it is; you'll have to make sure there's room for it to install to (It *shouldn't* overwrite your ext3 partitions, but it's Microsoft)
[05:08] <lamego> J-_, external, like USB ?
[05:08] <J-_> yes usb
[05:08] <Solarion> kditty: you should also keep your ubuntu CD handy so that you can re-write the bootloader, because Windows will overwrite it.
[05:08] <lamego> J-_, did you tried to plug it in ? it should be enough
[05:08] <kristian> lamego, can u pm pls? easier to copy ;P
[05:08] <kditty> yea i have 160gig and 120gig hard drives
[05:09] <Jowi> yes kditty. win will install on the first partition though. before you start though, you might want to read about how to recover grub after the windows install has finished.
[05:09] <Jowi> ubotu: tell kditty about grub
[05:09] <J-_> no i haven't tried to plug it in... will try it out though. hopefully it works, it's 300gb
[05:09] <Jowi> !grub
[05:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:09] <kditty> grub is already on my hard drive, i lost my windows partition so i formatted the drive and installed dapper on that, so ext3 is my first partition
[05:10] <kristian> lamego, if u can't see what i write, i'ts because i havn't registered..
[05:10] <ocr> how do I install apt (base system?) through commandline?
[05:10] <Jowi> kditty: the win install will overwrite the mbr.
[05:10] <LjL> ocr: uh? the APT system is installed with ubuntu
[05:11] <kditty> so install windows, it will overwrite my mbr, but hopefully not my linux partition?
[05:11] <moparfan90> whats the name of the ati drivers?
[05:11] <LjL> !ati
[05:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:11] <kditty> and then i just reinstall grub to the mbr?
[05:11] <jason> what is the name of the ati drivers for ubuntu?
[05:11] <ocr> LjL: obviously it isn't in my case, hence I wish to reinstall it
[05:11] <sarixe> i am trying to install grub on /dev/sda. chroot didn't work.... i did $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1; $ sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda1/boot; $ sudo chroot /mnt/sda1; # grub-install /dev/sda.  output: /dev/sda: Not found or not a block device.  any suggestions?
[05:11] <Jowi> kditty: it is explained in the first link that ubotu spat out
[05:11] <J-_> holy crap it worked... didn't realize it would because it's a different file system!
[05:11] <sarixe> i'm still in the chroot
[05:11] <delcoyote> need some help please, trying to save a windows partition with ubuntu live cd, could this be done through nfs and using shared folders?
[05:11] <kristian> lameog, i type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or should i wait?
[05:11] <moparfan90> jason like men
[05:11] <delcoyote> also at another ubuntu machine
[05:12] <kditty> ok, thanks guys
[05:12] <jason> moparfan80 has no reproductive system
[05:12] <LjL> ocr: well, what happened exactly? if APT isn't there, it means something is very wrong
[05:12] <jason> moparfan90 has no reproductive system
[05:12] <J-_> thanks for the help! i'm gonna make like wayne gretzky and get the puck outta here.
[05:12] <lamego> kristian, erm wait
[05:12] <ocr> LjL: I don't know if the previous admin deleted it or never installed it, dpkg-* and debconf-* seem to be installed, its Ubuntu 5.04, and the only thig running is a stupid webmin insterface and some cPanel scripts in /scripts
[05:12] <lamego> the dpkg-reconfigure is just for the case you get into troubles
[05:12] <kristian> okai, good
[05:13] <lamego> ocr, what aboud reinstalling apt-get ?
[05:13] <sarixe> any help with the grub-install?
[05:13] <LjL> ocr: well if you have dpkg, you can install apt-get
[05:13] <eegore> I heard that Sun has opened all the specs for their 8 core proc for developers to write code for it
[05:13] <ocr> LjL: ok, thats good news, how? :)
[05:13] <LjL> ocr: hold on one second
[05:13] <eegore> Probably old news
[05:14] <eegore> I heard the server version is suppporting it
[05:14] <LjL> ocr: hmm well, i'd need to know what *version* of APT you need, since you're using 5.04
[05:14] <lamego> ocr, you get the debian packages and dpkg -i on it
[05:14] <LjL> ocr: hold on a couple more seconds
[05:14] <sarixe> i'm trying to install grub to /dev/sda from the livecd... and it's not working
[05:14] <ocr> wget *apt.deb* && dpkg -i XX i assume, but I have no idea what package I am to install
[05:14] <Lynoure> sarixe: hmm, would bee logical tht because of the chroot /dev/sda is simply not seen
[05:14] <dave__> anyone know if the nforce 5xx chipsets are supported? can't seem to find any solid "yes/no" on google/forums
[05:14] <jsubl2> !automake
[05:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about automake
[05:15] <sarixe> true, Lynoure
[05:15] <M4D3X> having problems installing nvidia drivers
[05:15] <M4D3X> have this error message
[05:15] <M4D3X> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[05:15] <M4D3X> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[05:15] <M4D3X> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[05:15] <M4D3X> command:
[05:15] <M4D3X> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:15] <M4D3X> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[05:15] <M4D3X> from nv to nvidia.
[05:15] <M4D3X> matt@LinuxMachine:~$
[05:15] <M4D3X> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[05:15] <M4D3X> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[05:15] <M4D3X> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[05:15] <M4D3X> command:
[05:15] <M4D3X> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:15] <lamego> M4D3X, do not paste here !!!!
[05:15] <M4D3X> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[05:15] <M4D3X> from nv to nvidia.
[05:15] <M4D3X> !!!
[05:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[05:15] <sarixe> but then i try # mount, then it tells me /dev/sda2 is mounted on /.... i don't even have /dev/sda2!!
[05:15] <LjL> ocr: ok download this http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.35ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:16] <LjL> ocr: then run "sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.35ubuntu2_i386.deb"
[05:16] <burepe2> I am getting hung up on boot on "waiting on root file system" any suggestions?
[05:16] <burepe2> sorry "Waiting for root file system..."
[05:16] <kristian> lamego, i can find one place where "driver" is written, it's this:  Driver		"kbd"
[05:17] <kristian> with space between driver and kbd
[05:17] <lamego> kristian, there are a lot of driver entires, its the screen driver
[05:17] <ocr> LjL: accually bad news ;) find /usr -name dpkg* only reports dpkg-reconfigure and dpkg-preconfigure
[05:17] <LjL> ocr: then you really do have a problem i'm afraid...
[05:18] <kristian> now i found the graphic card.. 9800 Pro
[05:18] <kristian> driver - vesa
[05:18] <lamego> ok
[05:19] <lamego> change it to fglrx
[05:19] <LjL> ocr: here's the dpkg packages --> http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/
[05:19] <CarlF1> what do I add to etc/apt/sources so  I can install http://packages.debian.org/experimental/net/gaim  ?
[05:19] <kristian> quit and save
[05:19] <LjL> ocr: you could probably try installing them manually. i wouldn't do that with a gun pointed to my head, though
[05:19] <kristian> ?
[05:19] <lamego> yes
[05:19] <kristian> reboot.. see ya
[05:20] <maxlatino> hy
[05:20] <LjL> ocr: for hoary, you'd need version 1.10.27ubuntu1
[05:21] <LjL> ocr: do you know how to extract a .deb manually?
[05:21] <lamego> uh, extract ? it is just about downloading and installing it
[05:21] <LjL> lamego: not if you don't have dpkg
[05:22] <bbrazil> LjL: they're just ar archives iirc
[05:22] <lamego> but he does have dpkg
[05:22] <kristian> lamega, then? :)
[05:22] <The_Guardian> does the server install of ubuntu now have a gui?
[05:22] <lamego> he is just missing apt*
[05:22] <LjL> lamego: no he doesn't
[05:22] <CarlFK> The_Guardian: no
[05:22] <lamego> LjL, please read up, he does
[05:22] <LjL> bbrazil: yes, containing two tarballs, one of which is data.tar.gz, which contains the actual files
[05:23] <LjL> lamego: please read up you too, he doesn't ;-)
[05:23] <lamego> ocr LjL: I don't know if the previous admin deleted it or never installed it, dpkg-* and debconf-* seem to be installed, its Ubuntu 5.04, and the only thig running is a stupid webmin insterface and some cPanel scripts in /scripts
[05:23] <amund> where can I find beagle systray search applet?
[05:23] <LjL> lamego: [17:18]  <ocr> LjL: accually bad news ;) find /usr -name dpkg* only reports dpkg-reconfigure and dpkg-preconfigure
[05:24] <lamego> ops :P ok you win :P
[05:24] <kristian> lamego, what's next with my graphic card? :P
[05:24] <lamego> kristian, did X started ?
[05:24] <LjL> though, technically,    find /usr -name dpkg*     shouldn't report *anything*, since that'd be     find /usr -name "dpkg*"
[05:24] <bcl> ocr, looks like its time to find another 5.04 box and copy the binaries over :( Preferrably from someone you trust.
[05:24] <LjL> but i suppose that *is* what he did
[05:25] <kristian> yes, i'm on ubuntu now?
[05:25] <LjL> bcl: well, what about just extracting dpkg manually like i said?
[05:25] <kristian> x - os?
[05:25] <lamego> X = XServer = Graphical Interface
[05:25] <bcl> If you don't have apt and dont have dpkg I don't think there's anything that can open the .deb, is there?
[05:25] <LjL> bcl: not a good idea, but failing that, i'm sure a fresh reinstallation is still better than copying binaries around...
[05:25] <nbjayme> please help improve the script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16448
[05:25] <kristian> nothing started when ubntu started, no..
[05:25] <LjL> bcl: yeah, there is. "ar". deb files are just ar archives, containing two gz archives, which contains a tar archive
[05:26] <eegore> nomasteryoda left?
[05:26] <bcl> LjL, depends on how important his server is.  But yes, a reinstall might be a good idea, the system is probably more screwed up than he realizes right now.
[05:26] <LjL> bcl: agreed
[05:26] <bcl> LjL, ahh, ok. I hadn't realized that. Still used to rpms :)
[05:26] <homerh> hiya ppl
[05:26] <lamego> kristian, erm, like, you are on ubuntu right now, right ?
[05:27] <eegore> !terminal right click
[05:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about terminal right click
[05:27] <suppaman> does anyone know how have set up Return-Path header with mailx ?
[05:27] <kristian> yes
[05:27] <pradeep> hello homerh
[05:27] <eegore> !right click
[05:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about right click
[05:27] <kristian> lamego, yes..?
[05:27] <Junichi> hello everyone
[05:28] <bcl> ocr, hmm, look in /var/cache/apt/archives its possible there is an apt-get in there.
[05:28] <homerh> having a problem nautalis keep reseting tologin screen any idea why
[05:28] <basti`DND> homerh stinkt
[05:28] <Junichi> how do I get ubuntu to connect to an always on internet connection?
[05:28] <basti`DND> Junichi stinkt
[05:28] <CarlFK> sudo apt-get -f install = The following packages will be REMOVED:  gaim ubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <basti`DND> CarlFK stinkt
[05:29] <Toma->  anyone ever made a TORCS car before? or know how to make one?
[05:29] <basti`DND> Toma- stinkt
[05:29] <CarlFK> stinkt?
[05:29] <basti`DND> CarlFK stinkt
[05:29] <LjL> basti`DND: go away please
[05:29] <CarlFK> basti`DND: please stop
[05:29] <Toma-> hu?
[05:29] <Junichi> I have a modem that connects to the net automatically
[05:29] <basti`DND> sorry ...
[05:30] <Junichi> ubuntu sees my ethernet card but it dosent know it has internet
[05:30] <suppaman> Junichi: isn't that called dial-up ?
[05:30] <Junichi> erm its dsl?
[05:30] <_sp1d3r_> anyone wish tell me about a funny mail sound to set on my mobile?
[05:31] <ekl> uh
[05:31] <ekl> nice
[05:31] <cisa> hi, i'm ugrading from hoary to dapper. lvm2 makes problems: http://pastebin.de/8030
[05:31] <Junichi> so how do I make internet work in ubuntu using a marvell yukon card?
[05:31] <CarlFK> socket7: does Systen/Admin/Networking see it?
[05:31] <Junichi> and a nforce3 mobo
[05:32] <CarlFK> Junichi: does Systen/Admin/Networking see it?
[05:32] <Junichi> yes it does
[05:32] <bcl> Junichi, what does ifconfig show? Is there an eth0?
[05:32] <Junichi> it says ppp connection off
[05:32] <Junichi> it does
[05:32] <Junichi> pppconfig shows a weird error
[05:32] <socket7> CarlFK, I hadn't realized that there was a gui app. I was searching command line XD
[05:32] <CarlFK> Junichi: "it" = eth0
[05:32] <Junichi> forgot what was that tho
[05:32] <Junichi> yep
[05:32] <Junichi> it does
[05:32] <ekl> hi i'm totally new to ubuntu (i use debian)
[05:32] <kristian> lamego, you there?: P
[05:32] <bcl> Junichi, you shouldn't need ppp if its DSL
[05:32] <socket7> CarlFK, let me play with this a minute. it does see ath0, but I don't know if it works yet
[05:33] <yallaman> Strange thing is..i got direct rendering working with this config. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16449 ... but i cant start gnome..error mesage tells me that x server isnt configured properly..well the usual error message when x cant start...but starting fluxbox is no problem
[05:33] <Junichi> ooo? then?
[05:33] <ekl> i'm trying to understand what iso should i download to install it on my macs
[05:33] <Junichi> when I launch FF it was like as if there was no internet
[05:33] <eitch0000> ekl: desktop versions
[05:33] <ekl> sure, but
[05:33] <LjL> ekl: what about http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso ?
[05:33] <The_Guardian> does ubuntu use sudo to handle all of its root functions?
[05:33] <eitch0000> ekl: is what I would suggest
[05:33] <bcl> Junichi, in the GUI config it should be setup to get the IP automatically (via DHCP).
[05:33] <Toma-> The_Guardian: pretty much.
[05:33] <LjL> The_Guardian: yeah, and gsudo
[05:34] <The_Guardian> ahh no root shell then?
[05:34] <Toma-> The_Guardian: not at all
[05:34] <cisa> I tried installing lvm2 from breezy and then dist-upgrade again but the error still occurs. if I try to remove lvm2 (no need for it) apt also wants to remove ubuntu-base ubuntu-standard
[05:34] <Junichi> bcl: I ticked "enable DCHP" but still no internet
[05:34] <The_Guardian> hmm oh well
[05:35] <bcl> What IP does it show for eth0?
[05:35] <The_Guardian> are there any decent guis for server ubuntu?
[05:35] <bcl> The_Guardian, ssh :)
[05:35] <Toma-> The_Guardian: like fluxbox or something?
[05:35] <Junichi> 192.168.1.1
[05:35] <The_Guardian> si
[05:35] <Junichi> actually, I typed that in and it got disabled
[05:36] <Toma-> The_Guardian: sure, just install the server version of ubuntu, then apt-get install fluxbox or enlightenment :)
[05:36] <Toma-> i prefer E for servers.
[05:36] <Niklas_E> is there any gui for dpkg under X?
[05:36] <bcl> Junichi, That's odd. I would have expected the DSL modem to be .1 (usually they have a web interface that you can get to)
[05:36] <bcl> Niklas_E, Like synaptic?
[05:36] <Junichi> ooh I havent tried accessing my modem from firefox yet
[05:37] <Toma-> Niklas_E: double click your deb file and an installer will pop up
[05:37] <yallaman> oh noes..gerry left
[05:37] <Niklas_E> well, can you use synatic to remove programs too?
[05:37] <socket7> wewt. my wifi works now
[05:37] <Toma-> Niklas_E: gdebi is what its called and yeh, synaptic can remove apps
[05:38] <Niklas_E> ok, tnx
[05:38] <socket7> How do I update all my software again? with debian it was like apt-get distupdate or something. Is it the same in ubuntu?
[05:39] <rolf> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <xolot1> i have 2 ubunbtu boxes, and i want to nfs network them.  but how do i find the ip address of the host box?
[05:39] <delcoyote> xolot1, network settings? ifconfig?
[05:40] <xolot1> ok ill try  thank you
[05:40] <socket7> rolf, thanks. Looks like I'm already up to date with that
[05:40] <delcoyote> not sure also xolot1
[05:40] <kristian> what is the code to get Amsn? sudo apt-get install Amsn?
[05:40] <cisa> no hints on my lvm2 problem?
[05:40] <Junichi> thanks I'll try to play around with ubuntu again
[05:40] <delcoyote> im trying to do sort of the same to copy a whole partition to a folder
[05:40] <bcl> Junichi, Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces and make sure it has a line like this for eth0: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:40] <Junichi> okay
[05:41] <_sp1d3r_> kristian: yes
[05:41] <bschol> I'm new to this forum, sorry if I do things the wrong way. I cannot record sounds with a mic, e.g. in Skype. It works fine in WinXP. All is unmuted and set to max. in Alsamixer, mic is on capture. I tried the fora
[05:41] <kristian> why dosn't it workt hen?
[05:41] <Junichi> bcl: my network card is actually a marvell yukon although windows says its a realtek
[05:41] <Junichi> might that be a prob?
[05:42] <bcl> Junichi, if you have an eth0 that means the driver is most likely loaded.
[05:42] <_sp1d3r_> kristian: what is the prob?
[05:42] <Junichi> ooo
[05:42] <kristian> it can't find the package..
[05:42] <Junichi> I'll go over to ubuntu
[05:42] <Junichi> thanks
[05:42] <sarixe> i got grub to install... but only by installing ubuntu over the old one.  it works fine now.  didn't lose anything
[05:42] <kristian> the command line, terminal or whatever..
[05:43] <J-_> what's a good low resouce mp3 player?
[05:43] <sarixe> xmms
[05:43] <J-_> resource*
[05:43] <J-_> k
[05:43] <J-_> thanks.
[05:43] <sarixe> yup
[05:43] <sarixe> np
[05:44] <xolot1> delcoyote: i would use the "inet addr" ?
[05:44] <xolot1> and the command, willi@willi-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.0.###:/mnt /box1
[05:44] <xolot1> mount to NFS server '192.168.0.###' failed.
[05:45] <bcl> xolot1, do you have all the nfs daemons running?
[05:45] <socket7> Is there any way to get a wifi configurator loaded in the tray next to the clock and battery meters?
[05:45] <J-_> ubuntu is way better than suse.
[05:45] <J-_> i find anyway
[05:45] <xolot1> bcl:probably not, im trying this for the first time
[05:46] <bcl> xolot1, I haven't run nfs in a bit but you need nfs, nfslock and portmap running. nfs is a bit of a PITA. You might have an easier time using samba.
[05:46] <bcl> xolot1, depending on your needs.
[05:46] <delcoyote> nfs-server?
[05:46] <maddy_> where are the backgroudn files located?
[05:47] <delcoyote> not sure myself trying to figure out all this too
[05:48] <J-_> damn, it. no sound with xmms... what should i do?
[05:48] <xolot1> bcl and delcoyote: thank you, i may try samba first then, or perhaps ill be back...
[05:48] <bcl> Under ubuntu it looks like you need nfs-common, nfs-kernel-server and probably portmap.
[05:48] <delcoyote> lol xolot1  im also at samba :-D
[05:48] <delcoyote> and yw xolot1
[05:48] <root_> hey
[05:48] <bcl> xolot1, if all you are trying to do is share files you will have an easier time with samba.
[05:48] <root_> i need help
[05:48] <xolot1> bcl: yeah thats all im looking for
[05:48] <root_> i wanna listen to a dvd
[05:48] <delcoyote> trying to copy partition to folder, any folder!! :-D
[05:48] <root_> but it doesnt work
[05:49] <boredom> What package does alsaconf belong to? anyone know off hand?
[05:49] <kristian> lamego, are u back?
[05:49] <root_> how to enable dvd viewing?
[05:49] <ajayc> ^richiefrich: hi
[05:50] <^richiefrich> hi man
[05:50] <lamego> kristian, yes
[05:50] <root_> How to ENABLE dvd viewing???
[05:50] <kristian> u scared me a lot
[05:50] <yallaman> jeebuz.. i cant get to my login manager..  when in gnome..and i logout i just get console..never got that before..allways had the login manager
[05:50] <lamego> kristian, type: glxinfo | grep "direct"
[05:50] <Bazzi> !tell root_ about restrictedformats
[05:50] <ocr> sigh
[05:51] <lamego> if it says Yes, then you are setup with 3D support
[05:51] <bcl> root_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats (google is your friend)
[05:51] <root_> google is my ennemy
[05:51] <root_> lol
[05:51] <ocr> LjL: thanks for the help, but I cant even unpack .debs, and there's no CC installed so I can't compile them manually
[05:51] <CarlFK> boredom: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:51] <Ng> ocr: dpkg-deb can unpack .debs
[05:51] <bcl> ocr, no ar binary?
[05:51] <maddy_> anydoby knows where the wallpaper files are locatedz?
[05:51] <ocr> Ng: i dont have dpkg-deb :>
[05:51] <socket7> root_, are you runing as root? or are you just trolling for people who are anal about not ircing as root? :)
[05:52] <LjL> ocr: if you have no ar and no gunzip, then you're really a bit stuck... a reinstall would be best imho
[05:52] <kristian> direct rendering: No
[05:52] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:52] <Ng> ocr: why not?
[05:52] <^richiefrich> ajayc so what u decide on?
[05:52] <bcl> ocr, sounds like its time for a reinstall :(
[05:52] <socket7> VLC should be able to play DVD's for you root_
[05:52] <kristian> lamego, this is wrong isn't it?
[05:52] <ajayc> ^richiefrich: about what?
[05:52] <^richiefrich> ajayc arch ubuntu kbunut
[05:52] <lamego> kristian, yes, that means you don't have hw 3d
[05:52] <^richiefrich> u
[05:52] <yallaman> anyone know why my login manager suddenly stopped working/dont show up
[05:53] <kristian> whaaat? :P
[05:53] <bcl> yallaman, what's the last thing you did as root?
[05:53] <lamego> kristian, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <lamego> and select flgrx when asked for the driver to use
[05:53] <ocr> bcl: only have: binutils, libgd2, libfreetype6, postfix-tls, postfix, squid, squid-common in the cache
[05:53] <yallaman> just edited xorg.conf
[05:53] <bcl> lamego, is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wht you run after swapping video cards?
[05:53] <kristian> autodetect  video hardware?
[05:53] <suppaman> my fglrx kernel module doesn't fit my kernel, how can I check what restricted module release do I need ?
[05:53] <lamego> bcl, yes, also
[05:54] <bcl> ocr, oooohh. You are hosed.
[05:54] <lamego> kristian, yes, but you will select the driver anyway
[05:54] <ocr> LjL: i have gunzip and tar, but tar xzfv file.deb didnt work (even when i renamed to .tar.gz)
[05:54] <bcl> lamego, cool. Had someone ask me that the other day.
[05:54] <Ng> ocr: debs aren't tarballs. do you have another machine you could unpack one on and transfer the files?
[05:54] <kristian> what is the graphic card bus bababa
[05:54] <kristian> ?
[05:55] <Ng> kristian: AGP?
[05:55] <Ng> (which isn't technically a bus ;)
[05:55] <LjL> ocr: no, no, you must use *ar* first.   "ar x filename.deb"
[05:55] <lamego> so much work, at this time the server would be already installed with dapper :P
[05:55] <kristian> ofc!! :P lol..
[05:55] <suppaman> Ng: isn't it ?
[05:55] <Ng> suppaman: nope, it's just a port on a PCI bus
[05:56] <Ng> suppaman: run "lspci" and you'll see your AGP device (if you have one)
[05:56] <suppaman> at higher clock rate
[05:56] <bcl> lamego, heheh. Yep, 0-finished in under 15 minutes.
[05:56] <maddy_> does anyone know where the wallpaper files are locatedim using gnome
[05:56] <kristian> emm, how do i know what pci bus my graphic card is in?
[05:56] <Ng> maddy_: /usr/share/backgrounds/ probably
[05:57] <suppaman> Ng: I knew it was PCI based, but does it relies on the same controller as the PCI bus ?
[05:57] <Ng> kristian: what do you need to know for? X?
[05:57] <bcl> maddy_, ones you add are in ~/Desktop
[05:57] <kristian> xserver.org something..
[05:57] <bschol> hi, what steps to take if Skype is not recording sound through a mic?
[05:57] <kristian> not sure?
[05:57] <lamego> he needs to setup X with fglrx
[05:57] <maddy_> bcl i want to copy the default background fiel to some other location
[05:58] <Junichi> bcl: everything seems to be detected fine
[05:58] <Ng> kristian: generally you don't actually need to tell X which device to use, it can figure it out (and it prints a list when it starts, to /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[05:58] <Junichi> but still FF dosent connect
[05:58] <ufk> hiya
[05:58] <kristian> this is what i need to know:   PCI:1:0:0__
[05:58] <Junichi> I've got logs this time
[05:58] <ufk> what's the latest ubuntu branch?
[05:58] <Ng> ufk: dapper (6.06)
[05:58] <The_Guardian> anyone who can walk me through installing enlightenment with ubuntu 6.06?
[05:58] <ufk> thanks
[05:58] <lamego> maddy_, look at the wallpaper filename and: locate filename
[05:58] <Junichi> ifconfig says everythiing is fune
[05:58] <kristian> ng, i just say OK to   PCI:1:0:0__ than?
[05:59] <Junichi> fine*
[05:59] <Junichi> but no internet!!
[05:59] <kristian> *then?
[05:59] <lamego> kristian, OK OK OK OK
[05:59] <g00nish0ne> Junichi, does your /etc/resolv.conf contain your router as a nameserver?
[06:00] <kristian> 128 mb, how many kb?
[06:00] <Junichi> havent check that one yet..
[06:00] <Junichi> have to boot over to ubuntu to find out
[06:00] <lamego> kristian, leave the defaults unless you know that is being asked :P
[06:00] <kristian> 128.000?
[06:01] <g00nish0ne> i've had issues with that, and after some research.. it looks like ubuntu is making ipv6 requests and instead of ignoring them, my router is returning 1.0.0.0
[06:01] <suppaman> bye
[06:01] <kristian> i have to write it i think
[06:01] <lamego> no you don't
[06:01] <g00nish0ne> i bypass it by removing the router from my resolv.conf
[06:01] <Junichi> so um, any more suggestions because I dont have internet over there
[06:01] <neotard> kristian:  are you running xorg configuration?
[06:01] <Junichi> ooo
[06:01] <Anderson> Can someone help me set up my wireless interface?
[06:01] <eegore> Damn they evem have a VMware player in the repos
[06:01] <g00nish0ne> 128mb == 131072kb
[06:02] <kristian> use  kernel framebuffer device  interface? yes or no, the 2 million NOK question :)
[06:02] <lib8264q> hello channel
[06:02] <eegore> Is dapper aimed point blank at the enterprise sector?
[06:02] <The_Guardian> what address do I use when updating my sources.list to apt-get enlightenment?
[06:02] <kristian> neotard, yes, i think....
[06:02] <Anderson> Can someone help me set up my wireless interface?
[06:02] <root_> socket7: im runnin as root
[06:03] <g00nish0ne> Anderson, what card do you have?
[06:03] <root_> thanks all
[06:03] <lib8264q> hey just wondered is it possible to access msn chat rooms  on a linux system ?
[06:03] <eegore> HACK TIME!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <root_> ???
[06:03] <eegore> yes you
[06:03] <g00nish0ne> msn? as in irc?
[06:03] <_sp1d3r_> what's the benfit if I set "user  ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" in sudoers file and I use only user account?
[06:03] <kristian> lamego, use  kernel framebuffer device  interface? yes or no, the 2 million NOK question :)
[06:03] <eegore> let see what script I can feed a newb
[06:04] <PalmMagic> lib8264q :yeah
[06:04] <Junichi> so other than checking that anything else that would help>?
[06:04] <kristian> lamego,  yes or no?
[06:04] <g00nish0ne> i've seen the issue all over, no one solution, but removing my router from my resolv.conf.. is what gets me online
[06:05] <g00nish0ne> and i'm running 6.06 right now..
[06:05] <_sp1d3r_> Anyone can explain me about utility of sudoers file?
[06:05] <Junichi> oo okay I'll try that
[06:05] <nickrud> _sp1d3r_, it's useful for giving users specific rights to run only certain programs
[06:06] <yallaman> whats wrong with this xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16450  ..when i boot my comp..i get error telling me that x server cant start..  but when i type startx..fluxbox starts..i get no login manager
[06:06] <Anderson> My wireless interface is on the device manager, however there is no wireless interface in the network settings dialogue.
[06:06] <g00nish0ne> if you look for the posts in ubuntuforums and search for 1.0.0.0  you'll see where i've been asking
[06:06] <g00nish0ne> and what i've found
[06:07] <g00nish0ne> what card is it Anderson ?
[06:07] <g00nish0ne> dlink linksys?
[06:08] <Anderson> Broadcom
[06:08] <Anderson> Built in
[06:08] <Junichi> I'll boot over (again)
[06:08] <Anderson> If there is a listing in the device manager, does that indicate the presence of drivers?
[06:09] <_sp1d3r_> nickrud: ok but if I set "ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" privileges in my sudoers file, then I doing an useless thing?
[06:09] <g00nish0ne> no
[06:09] <nickrud> _sp1d3r_, it means you don't type your password, that's all
[06:09] <Anderson> Ok, I'll do some looking
[06:09] <Stormx2> Setting up a gstreamer pipeline for ripping CDs... ! lame name=enc vbr=4 vbr-quality=2 <-- How do I make that best quality VBR? I don't know what the "4" means, I think I need to set that 2 to 0
[06:09] <solstice> is it is safe to install bittorrent official client with their deb package (and remove bittorrent 3.4.2) ?
[06:09] <g00nish0ne> i think broadcom requires ndiswrappers
[06:09] <The_Guardian> can someone here help me with apt-get for enlightenment?
[06:10] <_sp1d3r_> nickrud: Ok thks
[06:10] <g00nish0ne> is it showing broadcom 4318?
[06:10] <kristian> well, no i have done the configuration, i just pressed Enter.. restart, then everything will work?
[06:11] <yallaman> i even have 3d accel and direct rendering working..
[06:11] <eegore> damn, now I need to get glx working
[06:11] <Anderson> g00nish0ne, it does require ndiswrapper, just found that, it is a BCM4306
[06:11] <_sp1d3r_> nickrud: Only one thing... if I set user with this privileges then this user is like root?
[06:11] <M4D3X> arrrgh
[06:11] <M4D3X> cant get nvidia card to work!
[06:11] <kristian> i think it's working now :P
[06:11] <kristian> lamego is a gift! :)
[06:12] <Anderson> g00nish0ne, I was under the impression that anything in the device manager had drivers.
[06:12] <nickrud> _sp1d3r_, yes, but a root who doesn't need a password.
[06:12] <g00nish0ne> nah, all devices will list
[06:12] <Amaranth> Anderson: dapper has the bcm43xx driver
[06:12] <Amaranth> Anderson: So it might work without ndiswrapper
[06:12] <Amaranth> Anderson: But you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package
[06:12] <Anderson> Thanks, I'll look into that.
[06:14] <randomguy> hey anyone know of a linux game that is worth playing?
[06:15] <randomguy> i get so bored from time to time and want to kill a few brain cells
[06:15] <jtj> i'm trying to open a video in mplayer but i'm getting an error message, would someone be able to wlak me throguh what it means please? I have pasted to 16453, thanks
[06:15] <Ng> randomguy: there are some quake3 based things that are free - tremulus and enemy territory, for example
[06:16] <nickrud> randomguy, got just the thing to kill brain cells: frozenbubble
[06:16] <Ng> randomguy: or you could shell out a few bucks for something like ut2004, or go for a little puzzle game in Applications->Games
[06:16] <randomguy> ah but i wanted something more than one of those tetris like games
[06:16] <kristian> lamego, how can i check if the graphic is okay ?
[06:17] <randomguy> ya i guess when the new ut comes out i will buy it for linux
[06:17] <Jowi> randomguy: bzflag can be addictive
[06:17] <The_Guardian> i'm having trouble using apt-get to install enlightenment
[06:17] <randomguy> i will give it a try thanks
[06:17] <The_Guardian> what deb should I use?
[06:17] <Ng> The_Guardian: enlightenment
[06:18] <The_Guardian> just http://enlightenment.org ?
[06:18] <Ng> The_Guardian: sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[06:18] <The_Guardian> aye I tried that already
[06:18] <Ng> The_Guardian: and what happened?
[06:18] <Anderson> What command shows which release of Ubuntu I am using?
[06:18] <kristian> why dosn't sudo apt-get install Amsn work? :P
[06:18] <The_Guardian> can't find package
[06:18] <Ng> Anderson: lsb_release -a
[06:18] <Ng> kristian: small a
[06:19] <Anderson> Ng, much appreciated.
[06:19] <kristian> the_gurdian, we got the same problem..
[06:19] <Ng> The_Guardian: you need to enable the universe/multiverse repositories then
[06:19] <kristian> can't find pacakje
[06:19] <Ng> !repos > The_Guardian
[06:19] <Ng> !repos > kristian
[06:19] <kristian> package..
[06:19] <Ng> kristian: I just told you how to fix yours :)
[06:19] <The_Guardian> aye that's what i'm looking for
[06:19] <The_Guardian> the addy for the repos
[06:20] <jtj> anyone able to help with an mplayer problem please?
[06:20] <randomguy> dont use mplayer
[06:20] <Ng> jtj: what's the URL of your error paste?
[06:20] <randomguy> use vnc
[06:20] <solstice> s it is safe to install bittorrent official client with their deb package (and remove bittorrent 3.4.2) ?
[06:21] <randomguy> i have never ever had an error with vnc
[06:21] <g00nish0ne> vlc?
[06:21] <g00nish0ne> you mean
[06:21] <The_Guardian> ahh thanks Ng reading the msg you sent me now
[06:21] <jtj> ng 16453
[06:21] <randomguy> ya sorry
[06:21] <Anderson> Is 6.06 Dapper?
[06:21] <g00nish0ne> yes
[06:21] <Ng> jtj: can I have the full URL please, since I'm not psychic and don't know which pastebin you used ;)
[06:21] <Lynoure> randomguy: I already thought you were being way random =)
[06:21] <randomguy> lol ya i need to think of a new name lol
[06:22] <funkmaster> hi there i was trying to get *.3gp working so i was compiling ffmpeg with amr support but get an error when doing make, /amr.c:248: undefined reference to `UnpackBits' and amr.c:318: undefined reference to `PackBits' someone knows wha i'm doing wrong?
[06:22] <kristian> ng, i don't find amsn in synaptic either..
[06:22] <Ng> funkmaster: no, but I think realplayer can play those
[06:22] <jtj> ng oh sorry i used the one which we're told to use and thought tht was standard  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16453
[06:22] <Ng> kristian: then you need to enable universe
[06:22] <cablesm102> I think I may have a GNOME problem. When I click a UI object (button, link, etc) it occasionally won't perform the action until I move my mouse away from the button.
[06:22] <kristian> yes, i done that before ;) but where?:P
[06:23] <jtj> random why is tht better? i'm trying to get mplayer working because i want to record streaming video
[06:23] <Ng> kristian: did ubotu send you a URL? that page explains how
[06:23] <Ng> jtj: looks like you need to install the win32 codecs package
[06:23] <Ng> !RestrictedFormats > jtj
[06:23] <Ng> Seveas: this new bot syntax and the lack of confirmation, sucks imo ;)
[06:23] <randomguy> does it have a problem with every site or just one specific one
[06:23] <delcoyote> need some advice please, have windows partition on ubuntu live cd, could i change mount path to paste it in other ubuntu machine? now the path is /tmp
[06:23] <jtj> ng oh i thought i had what does tht restricted formats mean?
[06:23] <The_Guardian> i'm glad ubuntu is really clean
[06:24] <The_Guardian> I was having the worst pain with phlak and arudius
[06:24] <tich> does anyone know how to change the font settings for openbox wm?
[06:24] <Ng> jtj: it means that the format is probably encumbered by patents, so a free decoder can't be written
[06:24] <lib8264q> hey del what you doing in here  lol
[06:24] <funkmaster> Ng: yeah installed it and workd for a second then crashed..
[06:24] <ocr> yay
[06:24] <cisa> how do i remove lvm2 without removing ubuntu-base and ubuntu-standard?
[06:24] <ocr> I managed to install sshd now
[06:24] <kristian> ng, i cant find it
[06:24] <ocr> damn that was alot of hacking
[06:24] <kallei> I need a program so I can have a friend of my see my desktop in "real-time", I need him to see what I am doing in GIMP etc...  Now i have tried to setup a VNC server (vnc4server)  but when my friend logs in, it's like he gets his own session, with an empty desktop and all that. Is it a vnc server i need or is there any other program I am looking for?
[06:24] <jtj> ng ah ok so does tht mean i wont be able to download from tht site
[06:24] <delcoyote> :-p lib?
[06:24] <Ng> kristian: can't find what? the package? have you updated your package listings since you enabled universe? (either Reload in synaptic or "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal)
[06:25] <lib8264q> :) yourself  lmao
[06:25] <jtj> ng how can i check i have installed the codecs properly
[06:25] <delcoyote> gotcha!! ;-p lib
[06:25] <Ng> jtj: you should be able to, there are package repositories (PLF, I think) that still distribute the windows codecs anyway
[06:25] <Ng> jtj: look in /usr/lib/win32
[06:25] <randomguy> well there are programs to record your session but i cant think of any that will send it over real time
[06:25] <cisa> kallei: there ist x11vnc or something like that. or you both log in to one vnc-session
[06:25] <jtj> ng ok thanks
[06:25] <randomguy> but they may be able to, i havent exactly used them
[06:25] <delcoyote> almost there lib....
[06:26] <kristian> i can't find where i enable universe, i did it yesterday, but i have installed ubuntu one more time since that..
[06:26] <rpedro> kallei: System >> Preferences >> Remote Desktop
[06:26] <ompaul> !repos
[06:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:26] <jtj> ng yeah its got 126 items
[06:26] <ompaul> kristian, ^^ read that by ubotu
[06:27] <kristian> well, i found it now ;)
[06:27] <The_Guardian> hmm Ng i'm still getting package not found
[06:27] <xophEr> Is libgstreamer-dev 10.7 going to be availalbe for ubuntu any time soon?
[06:27] <Ng> The_Guardian: did you update your package listings?
[06:27] <The_Guardian> yeah
[06:28] <Ramunas> hello, i'm having problems getting ati drivers to work, they used to work on breezy but after the upgrade they don't
[06:28] <Ramunas> i didn't change anything in xorg.conf
[06:28] <Ng> xophEr: ubuntu generally doesn't put new versions of packages into an already released version, so probably not
[06:28] <Ramunas> any ideas?
[06:28] <Ng> The_Guardian: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin
[06:28] <Whoo> Hi all ;)
[06:28] <xophEr> Ng, Yes, but I in edgy
[06:29] <Ng> xophEr: *shrug* edgy is a development version, it isn't stable and is unsupported
[06:29] <vanberge> did Freenode go down yesterday??  i couldnt get on at all.
[06:29] <kallei> rpedro:  does that give the possibilty to log in to the same session like cisa said?
[06:29] <randomguy> how can i remove an app that i installed from somewhere other than a repository?
[06:29] <Ng> The_Guardian: you can mostly ignore that error, or import seveas's repository gpg key, if he has one
[06:29] <Ng> vanberge: yes
[06:29] <Ng> randomguy: was it a .deb? dpkg -r
[06:30] <randomguy> no it was a .run
[06:30] <wastrel> yay
[06:30] <vanberge> Ng: i figured... i kept getting 'too many users' message...
[06:30] <rpedro> kallei: you mean like connecting two clients to the same remote desktop server? maybe...
[06:30] <kristian> my graphic card dosn't work better than it did before I started configuring..
[06:30] <Ng> vanberge: it got slightly hacked
[06:30] <Ng> randomguy: check its installed directory for an uninstall script
[06:30] <erUSUL> vanberge: yes sombody get the net admin privileges and "hijacked" the irc-net
[06:30] <Ng> randomguy: otherwise, vape the directory it's in
[06:30] <Whoo> I've strange trouble with '|' oprator .... (ps -edf |grep ps) not working, but (ps -edf |grep ps) without <space> working fine .... someon know why ?
[06:30] <yallaman> arghh.. i cant get my login manager to work..
[06:30] <jimcooncat> where are the xchat user settings located, please?
[06:30] <randomguy> k
[06:30] <MikkelRev> Hi, I cat get my TV tuner working. When I try to run tvtime, I get this errmsg at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16455
[06:31] <rpedro> kallei: just try it, and come back here if it doesn't work
[06:31] <erUSUL> jimcooncat: .xchat2/
[06:31] <erUSUL> jimcooncat: in home
[06:31] <jimcooncat> thank you erUSUL!
[06:31] <vanberge> Ng, erUSUL seriously?  wow... i thought they just had system issues.
[06:31] <randomguy> i hate .run anyway, it is just a sad way to try and make linux installers more like windows
[06:31] <Ng> MikkelRev: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[06:31] <jtj> ng would you be able to tell me what the first part of tht error message meant about an rtc init error, then the bit about a joystick please
[06:31] <delcoyote> mmm using ubuntu live cd , doesnt give you root permissions?
[06:32] <Ramunas> how can i make sure if my video hardware acceleration is working?
[06:32] <Ramunas> glxgears with some option, can't remember
[06:32] <Ng> jtj: ignore the joystick bit. the rtc error is about a hardware timer that mplayer tries to use. i recommend enabling it by editing /etc/sysctl.conf and putting in a line that says dev/rtc/max-user-freq=1024
[06:32] <Ng> jtj: basically that will lower the amount of CPU required to play things
[06:32] <Whoo> Ramunas, with the good drivers, what is you video chip ?
[06:32] <Lynoure> delcoyote: it gives you unlimited sudo
[06:32] <cArNaGe`> anyone using Konversation here?
[06:33] <MikkelRev> Ng: ABIT nVIDIA
[06:33] <Ng> !glxgears > Ramunas
[06:33] <Lynoure> cArNaGe`: very possibly, though I don't. Ask anyway?
[06:33] <Anderson> If I want to upgrade my release using apt-get can I add a line "deb http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/"
[06:33] <wastrel> !anyone
[06:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:33] <Ng> MikkelRev: have you enabled the binary nvidia drivers?
[06:33] <Ng> !upgrade > Anderson
[06:33] <jtj> ng ok thanks, i went to the win file and its got lost of items but is there some sort of command i cold run to check tht i have ething possible
[06:33] <The_Guardian> ahh no wonder
[06:33] <MikkelRev> Ng: not sure, how/where ?
[06:34] <The_Guardian> that repos has Nx not enlightenment
[06:34] <cArNaGe`> My question is with the weather script.  Anyway for other folks to use it off my machine
[06:34] <Ng> MikkelRev: you'd have installed nvidia-glx and arun a few commands afterwards, if not, follow the instructions ubotu is about to send you a URL for
[06:34] <Ng> !nvidia > MikkelRev
[06:34] <Ramunas> Whoo: ati radeon 9600
[06:34] <Stormx2> The_Guardian: o.O Today's News?
[06:34] <Whoo> fglrx drivers
[06:34] <cArNaGe`> !weather 18818
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about weather 18818
[06:34] <ajayc> ^richiefrich: yo
[06:34] <rixxon> i reported what i thought was a bug with the vmware-player package, someone replies 'Your debconf frontend is set to noninteractive. Please set it to something that allows questions to be shown.' -- How do i do that? :P
[06:34] <dr34mc0d3r> i built a ubuntu 6.06 for my duaghter (2 yrs) - im needing some sort of Sound Event Manager - so she will have diff sounds for various events. Got any ideas?
[06:35] <cArNaGe`> !weather binghamton
[06:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about weather binghamton
[06:35] <^richiefrich> ajayc ?
[06:35] <Ng> rixxon: probably with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf"
[06:35] <rixxon> Ng: thank you, will try
[06:35] <Ramunas> i'm getting ~90fps with radeon 9600 so i guess drivers aren't working, right?
[06:35] <erUSUL> dr34mc0d3r: System>Preferences>Sound ??
[06:36] <erUSUL> Ramunas: you can bet on it...
[06:36] <dr34mc0d3r> i did System>Preferences>Sound - but there arent enough events -
[06:36] <delcoyote> thanks Lynoure
[06:36] <kristian> lamego, u here?????
[06:36] <Ramunas> so any ideas of what should i do?
[06:36] <quickblaine> Hi, looking for some advice, trying to install ubuntu onto my windows laptop, but every time i try and resize the windows partition it goes back to its original size! whats going on?
[06:37] <dr34mc0d3r> events like minimize, maximize, open prog, close prog.....
[06:37] <The_Guardian> eh oh well FreeNX looks good
[06:37] <The_Guardian> and all I wanted was a decent GUI
[06:37] <erUSUL> !tell Ramunas about ati
[06:37] <johnstar> does anyone know how to run ubuntu off a thumb drive damm small linux style?
[06:37] <quickblaine> Hi, looking for some advice, trying to install ubuntu onto my windows laptop, but every time i try and resize the windows partition it goes back to its original size! whats going on?
[06:38] <erUSUL> !ati > Ramunas
[06:38] <Ramunas> erUSUL: thanks
[06:38] <quickblaine> Hi, looking for some advice, trying to install ubuntu onto my windows laptop, but every time i try and resize the windows partition it goes back to its original size! whats going on?
[06:39] <g00nish0ne> quickblaine, did you apply the changes you made?
[06:39] <kristian> Someone help me with my graphic card? 3 time i try to enable a other driver with this ATI crap, but it never works.. :P
[06:39] <facefaceface> yo yo yo, what is / how do I / do the equivelent of '/sbin/system network restart' ???
[06:40] <quickblaine> yeah, i'll point out now that im no noob, this is my second ubuntu install... its really weird
[06:40] <rpedro> dr34mc0d3r: maybe KDE has these kind of events, you can install it with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' . Personally I believe Gnome is much better and simpler to use
[06:40] <facefaceface> like, where is 'system' ?
[06:40] <facefaceface> locate system didn'y do out
[06:40] <quickblaine> I've tried a few different floppy things that dont work... then i tried GPartEd on the ubuntu live CD... didnt work either!
[06:40] <erUSUL> kristian: which driver are you trying to configure?
[06:40] <facefaceface> thats 'out
[06:40] <Ng> facefaceface: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   perhaps
[06:40] <dr34mc0d3r> rpedro - thanks - im using Gnome at the moment...
[06:41] <Ng> facefaceface: (owt ;)
[06:41] <kristian> not sure... but i try to make my grap. card work
[06:41] <rpedro> dr34mc0d3r: maybe ask first in #kubuntu , no need to install KDE just to check...
[06:41] <BumfunMC> how do i remove toolbars in gnome?
[06:41] <g00nish0ne> and you did click on "apply" after you resided it...
[06:41] <facefaceface> Ng ahhhh...
[06:41] <dr34mc0d3r> ok thanks
[06:41] <quickblaine> yeah course
[06:41] <g00nish0ne> without that.. it doesn't make changes
[06:41] <Ng> BumfunMC: which toolbars?
[06:41] <vanberge> anybody in here a fluxbox user?  no problems or anything, i was just wondering if flux has a following with the ubuntu crowd. :-)  (im a former redhatter/fedra core)
[06:41] <The_Guardian> hmm well I just installed FreeNX, but now startx doesn't work?
[06:41] <quickblaine> i tried it about four time, clicked apply, it said applying, and then when it rescannd the devices it went back up to 40gb
[06:42] <kristian> erusul,not sure... but i try to make my grap. card work
[06:42] <erUSUL> !ati > kristian
[06:42] <Ng> The_Guardian: freenx isn't a GUI, it's a remote control system like vnc or rdp
[06:42] <RabidSnail> Does anybody know where I can find the extracted firmware files of wl_apsta.o for AirportExtreme? Every time I try running bcm43xx-fwcutter the MD5 doesn't match.
[06:42] <BumfunMC> Ng: in a normal program like gedit where these symbols are to open a file and so on. i cant move it back since i moved it away once
[06:43] <The_Guardian> aye I need NXclient right?
[06:43] <CarlFK> how do I find the URI of a local debian repo mirror?  (#debian is trying to protect me from me)
[06:43] <anilruby> give me link for upgrading breezy to dapper wiki link
[06:43] <anilruby> give me link for upgrading breezy to dapper wiki link
[06:43] <Ng> BumfunMC: System->Preferences->Menu and Toolbar  - tick "Detachable toolbars" I suspect
[06:43] <anilruby> give me link for upgrading breezy to dapper
[06:43] <Ng> anilruby: stop repeating yourself
[06:43] <kristian> erusul, tried that howtoguide twice, and third time with a guide for my card, 9800 pro. i don't think it will work anyway
[06:43] <Ng> !upgrade > anilruby
[06:44] <quickblaine> !upgrade
[06:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:44] <The_Guardian> nvm I read it all wrong
[06:44] <jtj> ng, thanks
[06:45] <quickblaine> Can someone help me with partitioning problems?
[06:45] <CarlFK> quickblaine: not if you don't describe the problem ;)
[06:45] <facefaceface> how can I make a dialogue popup from teh cmd line in ubuntu?
[06:45] <kristian> !ati 9800 pro
[06:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about ati 9800 pro
[06:45] <Kasuko> I need to know how to disable the shift + backspace hotkey that cause me to lose my work every 5 minutes
[06:46] <Ng> facefaceface: zenity
[06:46] <CarlFK> facefaceface: char or gui?
[06:46] <kristian> okai...
[06:46] <kristian> !9800 pro
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about 9800 pro
[06:46] <Ng> !ati > kristian
[06:46] <anilruby> give me steps for upgrading Ububtu 5.10 to Dapper 6.06, I have Live CD of dapper
[06:46] <Ng> Kasuko: shift+backspace?
[06:46] <kristian> tried that twice
[06:46] <CarlFK> kristian: /msg ubotu bla
[06:46] <quickblaine> CarlFK: Okay, so basically im trying to resize my windows partition in GParted on the ubuntu liveCD so i can install, but each time resize it and apply changes it goes back up to 40gb
[06:46] <Kasuko> Ng, I dont know why but it seems to restart my xserver
[06:47] <Ng> Kasuko: do you mean ctrl-alt-backspace?
[06:47] <ablyss> Kasuko: copy paste this into terminal xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace"
[06:47] <Kasuko> Ng, No just shift+backspace Im sure of it
[06:47] <ablyss> Ng, no its a xg;/compiz bug
[06:47] <CarlFK> quickblaine: I am assuming the resize is failing - try going into win and defrag, then back to Ubuntu and try to resize again
[06:47] <BumfunMC> Ng: the bars are detachable but when i try to pull that detacher at the left the mouse doesnt change to a hand and it just doesnt move. it only works when its already inside the program window
[06:47] <Ng> ablyss: well if people will run stupid buggy software ;)
[06:47] <Kasuko> Ng, ok
[06:47] <quickblaine> CarlFK: that sucks... defragging takes ages
[06:48] <Kasuko> Ng, Nothing?
[06:48] <Ng> Kasuko: try what ablyss said
[06:48] <loserboy> hey if grub gets screwed up and throws up an error 17, what do u do?
[06:48] <Kasuko> ablyss do you know how I can fix it
[06:48] <Kasuko> Im not even running XGL anymore
[06:48] <lamego> loserboy, I would reinstall grub
[06:49] <loserboy> yea but i mean how
[06:49] <lamego> loserboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:49] <facefaceface> zenity --question --text "hello?, This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages.
[06:49] <loserboy> lamego, thanks
[06:49] <snedar> hi! how can I set PATH for gnome? I want to install applications to my home dir, but I can't run them easily with ALT+F2 now.
[06:50] <kristian> lamego, back?
[06:50] <facefaceface> CarlFK, gui
[06:50] <lamego> kristian, yes
[06:50] <RabidSnail> Does anybody have experience with AirportExtreme (bcm43xx)?
[06:50] <facefaceface> (I am sshed into my laptop)
[06:50] <kristian> lamego, is there anything else i can do to improve the graphic?
[06:50] <facefaceface> I want to make a gui appear on the laptops X
[06:50] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: yup
[06:51] <lamego> kristian, were you able to setup the fglrx driver ?
[06:51] <BumfunMC> Ng are you there?
[06:51] <Kasuko> Ok I fixed it thanks you all
[06:51] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: on my dell 1300, what do you have?
[06:51] <VincentMX> yo
[06:51] <RabidSnail> CrazyDoode:Apple ibook
[06:51] <kristian> yes, i think so
[06:51] <Ng> facefaceface: --text=foo
[06:51] <CarlFK> facefaceface: im sure you can - I have only done char
[06:51] <Ng> facefaceface: not --text foo
[06:51] <Ng> BumfunMC: yes
[06:51] <kristian> lamego, had to set up my mouse, screen and everything
[06:51] <facefaceface> ty Ng
[06:51] <lamego> kristian, do you get a direct rendering yeson the glxinfo ?
[06:51] <lamego> did
[06:52] <BumfunMC> Ng: the bars are detachable but when i try to pull that detacher at the left the mouse doesnt change to a hand and it just doesnt move. it only works when its already inside the program window
[06:52] <facefaceface> zenity --question --text="hello?, This option is not available. Please see --help for all possible usages.
[06:52] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: the howto is horribly written, I think I'm gonna write one this afternoon. but i can walk you thru it.
[06:52] <RabidSnail> CrazyDoode:I have it installed, but it's sporadic
[06:52] <kristian> lamego, not sure, i didn't check before i rebot..
[06:52] <Ng> facefaceface: did you have a second " on the end?
[06:52] <RabidSnail> I read something about wl_apsta.o firmware
[06:52] <Ng> facefaceface: this works fine for me: zenity --question --text="Hello?"
[06:52] <facefaceface> Ng, yeah, sorry, just pasted bad
[06:53] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: mine's fine - rock steady
[06:53] <lamego> it also worked for me, the zenity dialog
[06:53] <facefaceface> Ng, can you ssh into your box and try again?
[06:53] <Otacon22> someone know the name of a program that can make me possible to listen the pc audio by a bluetooth earpiece ?
[06:53] <facefaceface> I didn't -X with ssh
[06:53] <scud> in ubuntu is there a way to bond ethernet connections?
[06:53] <M|xx> what's the "best" usenet/binaries downloader?
[06:53] <snedar> (about my question: never mind, I've found .bash_profile)
[06:53] <Ng> facefaceface: do you have X forwarding on your ssh session?
[06:53] <facefaceface> (cos I want the dialogue on the other machine)
[06:53] <VincentMX> anybody farmiliar with syslinux? i got it from the apt repos, but it doesn't work. it says "sh: mcopy: command not found". what do i do now? i need to make my usbstick bootable
[06:53] <lamego> kristian, so check it now, glxinfo | grep direct
[06:53] <facefaceface> I want to 'communicate' via ssh using dialogues
[06:54] <kristian> direct rendering: No
[06:54] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:54] <kristian> same shit as before :P
[06:54] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: are you using ndiswrapper or the built in driver?
[06:54] <lamego> facefaceface, that can't be done with ssh/zenity
[06:54] <facefaceface> lamego, surly the --display option can be used?
[06:54] <RabidSnail> CrazyDoode:I can't use ndiswrapper, being on PPC.
[06:55] <facefaceface> p.s. with ssh -X it 'works' (not what I want to do but no error)
[06:55] <BumfunMC> Ng: is there a way to remove the toolbar or to reset all toolbar positions or something?
[06:55] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: didn't know that :)
[06:55] <kristian> lamego, why do i have mesa glx indirect, and what is that?
[06:55] <RabidSnail> CrazyDoode:There's a special firmware some howtos said to use, but the fwcutter refuses to extract it.
[06:55] <lamego> that means you have software rendering, which is bad
[06:56] <CrazyDoode> RabidSnail: did you try  /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[06:56] <CrazyDoode>    yet? to download all drivers from the net?
[06:56] <CrazyDoode> as root
[06:56] <lamego> facefaceface, -display would work only if the Xserver on the remote host is setup to listen for remote connections, which is not the default
[06:56] <g00nish0ne> kristian, sorry to be late and join in the middle... but were you using nvidia chipset?
[06:57] <facefaceface> lamego, I see
[06:57] <kristian> yes!
[06:57] <facefaceface> How can I say 'hello' to the user of my laptop via ssh?
[06:57] <RabidSnail> CrazyDoode:Trying that now
[06:57] <lamego> and I don't see a -display option on zenity
[06:57] <g00nish0ne> and you've installed the nvidia drivers?
[06:57] <facefaceface> lamego, one moment
[06:58] <kristian> no? have not installed 1 driver at all..
[06:58] <g00nish0ne> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx  i believe
[06:58] <RabidSnail> CrazyDoode:Cool! I'll restart and see if it worked.
[06:58] <lamego> kristian, dod you apt-get install the driver on the virst place ?
[06:58] <CrazyDoode> k
[06:58] <lamego> did
[06:58] <lamego> he wants to install the ATI Driver, not Nvidia
[06:58] <kristian> no, I used easy ubuntu
[06:58] <M4D3X> need help regarding windows shares
[06:59] <lamego> uh
[06:59] <lamego> kristian, well, i am a bit tired of trying to help you, give it a read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:59] <g00nish0ne> like i said : sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:59] <g00nish0ne> then restart x
[06:59] <znero> Hello, can someone tell me how to export e-mails in evolution, so that i can import them later after an reinstallation
[06:59] <lamego> g00nish0ne, he has an ATI card !
[07:00] <kristian> lamego, i surely understadn :P
[07:00] <facefaceface> lamego, --display=DISPLAY           X display to use
[07:00] <lamego> znero, you just need to backup the .evoltion folder on your home directory
[07:00] <SpecialCore> hello, how to use VPN in Ubuntu 6.06?
[07:00] <fijam> Hello! Simple question: how to turn dma for hdd off at the bootup?
[07:00] <g00nish0ne> mixed replies then
[07:00] <lamego> facefaceface, my zenity help doesnt have such option
[07:00] <znero> lamego: oh, its hidden... okay, thanks
[07:01] <g00nish0ne> but still needs to install that first
[07:01] <Kyral> fijam: why the hell would you want it OFF?
[07:01] <odin> what's a good video converter program?
[07:01] <kristian> goonishinoho, something like that, emm, nvidia drivers for my motherboard, right?
[07:01] <fijam> Kyral: my old drive does not support it
[07:01] <lamego> znero, most of the application data/settings is save on the home dir at hidden folders, like .application :)
[07:01] <fijam> any hints?
[07:01] <g00nish0ne> kristian, i was talking about your video chipset
[07:02] <g00nish0ne> i caught a rogue yes in there somewhere and kept goin
[07:02] <kristian> nooo, that's ati..
[07:02] <odin> !tell odin about video converting
[07:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about video converting
[07:02] <djm62> fijam: /etc/hdparm.conf I think
[07:02] <lamego> kristian, the nvidia-glx is for the nvidia graphics card, not for the nforce
[07:02] <odin> drat!
[07:02] <fijam> I heard something about recompiling kernel with disabling dma. how to do it?
[07:02] <facefaceface> cos when I log in via ssh -X, and echo $DISPLAY, I get a valid display, which then 'works' with --display
[07:02] <fijam> djm62: thanks, I'll check it
[07:02] <facefaceface> $ zenity --help 2| grep "\-\-display=DISPLAY" ->   --display=DISPLAY           X display to use
[07:02] <yallaman> anyone that could give me a little hand here, im on the verge of reinstalling..just to escape my probs:/  the issue at hand is: whenever i boot i get an error message that x cannot start..typing startx  starts fluxbox..i get no login manager...if i go to gnome from the fluxbox menu..and try to log out from gnome..i still dont get a login manager..i see the nvidia logo..i got direct rendering and 3d accel working
[07:02] <g00nish0ne> fijam, you can usually disable dma via a kernel switch..
[07:02] <djm62> fijam: it's pretty well commented....
[07:03] <richee> anyone has idea about gnupg
[07:03] <lamego> ok i found the display option :P
[07:03] <richee> How do I generate a key for use with email
[07:03] <nox23> Hey
[07:03] <_joel> How do I change my login manager via gnome? I try to run gksu but it doesn't work...
[07:03] <lamego> anyway, my previous comment applies, the remote host needs to have the X running with remote listenting
[07:03] <facefaceface> zenity --version -> 2.14.2   ... oh ... OK :)
[07:03] <Seveas> Helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo #ubuntu!
[07:03] <facefaceface> lamego, sure
[07:03] <lamego> and the host which is sendingd needs to be authorized to do so on xhosts
[07:04] <facefaceface> yup
[07:04] <ardchoille> richee: do you prefer a gui app for that?
[07:04] <redguy> howdy Seveas
[07:04] <fijam> ok, thanks
[07:04] <richee> ardchoille: anything
[07:04] <kristian> lamego, the howtothing did i try yesterday, before u helped me.. then i tried it again, and then i tried to install with easy ubuntu, and then the last i tried, today..
[07:04] <facefaceface> so, how can I say 'hello' to the user of my laptop via ssh?
[07:04] <SpecialCore> Does anyone know how to set up VPN client?
[07:04] <Seveas> facefaceface, with mesg or talk
[07:04] <djm62> facefaceface: install festival :)
[07:04] <richee> SpecialCore: Ciso vpnc packages
[07:04] <_joel> SpecialCore: tightvnc
[07:04] <anilruby> what is link for pastebin
[07:04] <ardchoille> richee: I don't know how to di it via command line, but there's a nice gui app for it.. install Seahorse
[07:04] <Seveas> djm62, lol
[07:04] <nox23> I folowed 2-3 tutorials for upgrading my XORG server with ATI lastest driver so i can have OpenGL and HardwareAcceleration but i always get error cannot load fgrlx module
[07:04] <facefaceface> what is the 'system broadcast message' command?
[07:04] <Seveas> !pastebin > anilruby
[07:04] <facefaceface> djm62, festival rocks :)
[07:05] <richee> ardchoille: how do U use it in an email any ideas
[07:05] <richee> ?
[07:05] <facefaceface> SeanTater, mesg :)
[07:05] <Seveas> facefaceface, wall
[07:05] <vanberge> anybody know if there is a program that can automatically switch your desktop wallpapers?
[07:05] <_joel> SpecialCore: oh wait, you want a vpn, sorry. Tightvnc is a vnc client
[07:05] <facefaceface> wall - of course ;)
[07:05] <SpecialCore> ok....so many different answers. thank you all so much...
[07:05] <Seveas> facefaceface, echo "Something very important" | wall
[07:05] <lamego> the unix standard is "wall", but that is for tty devices
[07:05] <facefaceface> echo "hello" | wall :)#
[07:05] <ardchoille> richee: I know Thunderbird will pick up the new key once you make it, Tb uses it's own ui for that and you can use that new key in email. Not sure, but I would think Evolution would be the same and I know kmail does it too
[07:05] <Seveas> lamego, works on ptses too
[07:06] <nox23> I folowed 2-3 tutorials for upgrading my XORG server with ATI lastest driver so i can have OpenGL and HardwareAcceleration but i always get error cannot load fgrlx module i tryied everything can someone please help
[07:06] <blacktears> how do you work with .tar.gz
[07:06] <lamego> well, ok, console devices :P
[07:06] <Seveas> !ati > nox23
[07:06] <Seveas> true
[07:06] <nox23> blacktears,  tar -xvf yourfile.tar.gz
[07:06] <nox23> !ati
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <redguy> SpecialCore: openvpn is also woth a look
[07:06] <ardchoille> richee: Seahorse is a nice gui app for managing keys
[07:06] <facefaceface> blacktears, you need a hammer
[07:06] <richee> ardchoille: oh I am installing sea horse
[07:06] <Seveas> yegh, seahorse :/
[07:06] <nox23> That is exactlyt the tutorial i folowed
[07:06] <Seveas> I like gpa
[07:06] <nox23> i tryied 2 different others too
[07:06] <blacktears> what is a hammer
[07:06] <facefaceface> blacktears, or what nox23 said
[07:06] <richee> ardchoille: do I have to do anything else for thunderbird
[07:07] <facefaceface> blacktears, its a lump of metal on the end of a stick
[07:07] <djm62> SpecialCore: if you google for the gnu privacy handbook you might be able to refine your ideas
[07:07] <blacktears> lol
[07:07] <Seveas> nox23, ok, do these commands and put the output on the pastebin:
[07:07] <anilruby> hey while upgrading from dapper cd I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457
[07:07] <Seveas> uname -a
[07:07] <Seveas> dpkg -l '*fglrx*'
[07:07] <ardchoille> richee: it's been a while since I used tb, but tb has an option in the prefs for it
[07:07] <patrick_king> does this work for anybody  sudo apt-get install wormux, i can seem to get the libs and stuff but not the wormux part
[07:07] <blacktears> nice guys
[07:07] <richee> ok
[07:07] <facefaceface> thanks for the help dudes.
[07:07] <Seveas> anilruby, remove the cdrom entries from /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:07] <kditty> is it recommended to install xp and ubuntu on seperate hard disks instead of different partitions on one hard disk?
[07:08] <Tanel> how i can install easyubuntu
[07:08] <M4D3X> anyone help with windows shares via ebuntu
[07:08] <Seveas> kditty, I'd recommend not to install Windoes at all ;)
[07:08] <blacktears> nox23, what will that do
[07:08] <Tanel> or run
[07:08] <Seveas> !easyubuntu > Tanel
[07:08] <kristian> i think I stop using ubuntu, and install fedora instead ;P
[07:08] <AlexC> Hey,
[07:08] <lamego> kditty, it does not matter
[07:08] <M4D3X> anyone help via windows shares via ubuntu i mean
[07:08] <kditty> Seveas, there are certain apps i must use xp for. photoshop, shockwave flash etc..
[07:08] <ardchoille> richee: I believe it's in tb Edit -> Account Settings
[07:08] <nox23> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/71343
[07:08] <AlexC> When I install the FGLRX ATI Drivers, my Graphics Card Fan is on 100% RPM constantly , which is loud. How to I limit/lower the RPM speed?
[07:08] <kditty> i have ubuntu installed on my master hard drive, and i dont want to mess that up by doing a dual boot with xp
[07:09] <e-squizo> Folks, it seems I can't get glx to work on my notebook, which has an i915 card. The forums show some people have had the same problem, but I couldn't find a fix for it
[07:09] <Seveas> kditty, in that case installing it on a different partition is as good as on a different disk - the easiest is to install windows first
[07:09] <blacktears> if i have programs that are source, how do i run them
[07:09] <kristian> Alexc, how did u install the drivers?
[07:09] <lamego> patrick_king, wormux installed fined over here, make sure you have the proper repositories enabled
[07:09] <lamego> blacktears, you don't run them, you compile them
[07:09] <blacktears> how
[07:09] <anilruby> hey while upgrading from dapper cd I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457
[07:09] <patrick_king> i have all repos open
[07:09] <anilruby> hey while upgrading from dapper cd I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457
[07:09] <neutrinomass> blacktears: Before doing that, have you checked the Ubuntu repositories ?
[07:09] <QRZ> How does one go about changing their freenode password?
[07:09] <lamego> blacktears, usually there is an INSTALL file which tells you how
[07:09] <Seveas> nox23, are you on breezy?
[07:09] <AlexC> kristian: following the guide on Ubuntu
[07:09] <AlexC> kristian: It's always done it, even with Breezy
[07:09] <Seveas> QRZ, /msg nickserv set password newpasshere
[07:09] <blacktears> yeah i check the repositories
[07:09] <gnomefreak> !freenode > QRZ
[07:10] <QRZ> Thanks Seveas!
[07:10] <anilruby> hey while upgrading from dapper cd I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457
[07:10] <blacktears> yeah it says i need to compile them
[07:10] <kditty> yea well windows crashed and dell didnt send me any system disks so i had to install ubuntu and format the drive. now ive spent 3 weeks customizing dapper to the exact way i want it and i would hate to lose all of this data and preferences
[07:10] <e-squizo> a bit of the configuration info of my machine is in http://pastebin.ca/71338
[07:10] <nox23> Seveas,  Breezy badger with all updates
[07:10] <blacktears> where do i get compilers
[07:10] <Seveas> !compilinh > blacktears
[07:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about compilinh
[07:10] <Seveas> !compiling > blacktears
[07:10] <e-squizo> and my xorg.conf is in http://pastebin.ca/71339
[07:10] <blacktears> i know i read that
[07:10] <anilruby> !upgrade > anilruby
[07:10] <blacktears> i dont have a compiler
[07:11] <Seveas> nox23, install the linux-686 package and reboot into your new kernel
[07:11] <neutrinomass> blacktears: Install 'build-essential' ...
[07:11] <gnomefreak> blacktears: sudo apt-get build-essential
[07:11] <gnomefreak> install*
[07:11] <Seveas> blacktears, ubotu sent you a message with more info
[07:11] <bowlingking> How do u update edubuntu?
[07:11] <lamego> blacktears, read the message sfrom ubotu
[07:11] <e-squizo> is there any new info on this i915 and no glx issue?
[07:11] <blacktears> ok
[07:11] <nox23> Seveas,  that would make sense :)
[07:11] <bowlingking> How do u update edubuntu
[07:11] <gnomefreak> bowlingking: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:11] <anilruby> hey while upgrading from dapper cd I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16457
[07:11] <e-squizo> I guess it is supposed to work in dapper....
[07:11] <ocr> which package contains shutdown/init/halt/reboot scripts?
[07:11] <kristian> someone tell me how I reset or rollback the driver for my graphic card. then i'll try to install the driver one more time :)
[07:11] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell bowlingking about upgrade
[07:11] <Bassetts> where are sounds kept ?
[07:11] <ocr> I can't even reboot the server as someone have removed these packages
[07:11] <Seveas> Bassetts, depends
[07:12] <lamego> ocr, still here :P ?
[07:12] <delcoyote> !update
[07:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:12] <Bassetts> Saveas: like gaim sounds, login sound
[07:12] <Seveas> ocr, install ubuntu-base
[07:12] <nox23> Seveas,  So after updating my kernel , the fglrx module should load ?
[07:12] <AlexC> When I install the FGLRX ATI Drivers, my Graphics Card Fan is on 100% RPM constantly , which is loud. How to I limit/lower the RPM speed?
[07:12] <LjL> if one installs Ubuntu PPC (desktop CD) on an external HD, will the installer put the bootloader there, rather than on the main internal HD?
[07:12] <ubuntu> how do i make my internet work without a router in dapper?
[07:12] <Seveas> Bassetts, login sound: /usr/share/sound - gaim sound: /usr/share/gaim I presume
[07:12] <pradeep> anilruby, do a apt-cdrom add from the terminal
[07:12] <cunitiwah> howdy
[07:12] <Seveas> nox23, add the word fglrx to /etc/modules and reboot
[07:13] <delcoyote> !nfs
[07:13] <tich> is there anyway to have unbuntu check if all its packages are installed?
[07:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:13] <Seveas> (after installing linux-686)
[07:13] <gnomefreak> brb
[07:13] <Seveas> tich, there are 17000 packages. I can tell you for sure they're not all installed
[07:13] <lamego> LjL, the desktop CD doesn't asks on where to install the boot loader, it will install on the primary disk I think
[07:13] <cunitiwah> is there a way I can reset my network configurations? I was trying to setup nat here and I messed up my network
[07:13] <AlexC> When I install the FGLRX ATI Drivers, my Graphics Card Fan is on 100% RPM constantly , which is loud. How to I limit/lower the RPM speed?
[07:13] <patrick_king> lamego: is just stays at 0% [Waiting for headers] 
[07:14] <Seveas> AlexC, don't repeat....
[07:14] <rpedro> tich: the package ubuntu-desktop depends on all the essential gnome desktop packages for ubuntu
[07:14] <richee> r
[07:14] <AlexC> Seveas: sorry
[07:14] <lamego> patrick_king, make sure your sources.list is ok and do sudo apt-get update
[07:14] <AlexC> How to I access networked computers ( a Mac ) via Ubuntu?
[07:14] <AlexC> I've installed Samba
[07:15] <MikkelRev> When trying to get my TV tuner working, I installed nvidia driver. No I cant log on in X11, I get the errormessage instead saying NVIDIA: No Matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found... No devices detected
[07:15] <nox23> AlexC,  you could try using a url like in your browser , something like smb://yournetworkname/ you should access your files
[07:15] <tich> everynow and again something won't load because some system package wasn't installed, but often it won't say which one.
[07:15] <d00by> anybody know a site with good gambas examples/tutorials
[07:16] <lamego> tich, describe "something won't load"
[07:16] <Jum> Can anyone suggest a better gui ftp client than gftp?
[07:16] <lamego> Jum, nautilus :) ?
[07:17] <funkmaster> jum:kftpgrabber or flashfxp with wine
[07:17] <e-squizo> has anybody succeeded getting glx working with an i915 under dapper?
[07:17] <Jum> hmmm... nautilus sounds good :-)
[07:17] <ubuntu> hay do you know how you have to set up adsl  without a router?
[07:17] <patrick_king> yeh my source.list is ok and sudo apt-get update doesnt have any problems
[07:17] <funkmaster> doean any1 know what endian is? was compiling ffmpeg and get "endian test failed"
[07:17] <Jum> I'll try all 3except the wine one :-p
[07:17] <rpedro> tich: 'everynow and again something won't load'? like what??
[07:17] <Seveas> !adsl > ubuntu
[07:17] <lamego> Jum, nautilus has support for ftp, it will look pretty much like dowing a local browse
[07:18] <SpecialCore> how to deal with "libgpg-error0"?
[07:18] <AlexC> well geeeeee, i'm glad my graphics card fan is stuck at 100% rpm
[07:18] <Jum> that'll be handy  thanks lamego
[07:18] <Seveas> SpecialCore, tell us te complete error 
[07:18] <lamego> SpecialCore, if you could be more specifc about the error
[07:18] <tich> one example: i clicked on a help button (admin>disc>help) and it said that the files were not installed.
[07:18] <e-squizo> funkmaster: endianness is a feature of you processor's architecture
[07:18] <SpecialCore> when I install CISCO VPNC, this error comes out
[07:18] <tich> but other helps work and it isn't limited to help.
[07:19] <MikkelRev> Need help with my graphics card an my tv tuner: When trying to get my TV tuner working, I installed nvidia driver. No I cant log on in X11, I get the errormessage instead saying NVIDIA: No Matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found... No devices detected
[07:19] <e-squizo> funkmaster: it is the order in which the processor stores bytes in long-words
[07:19] <lamego> tich, that seems to be a bug...
[07:19] <SpecialCore> it says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgpg-error0"
[07:19] <lamego> spacey, are your repositories properly setup ?
[07:19] <e-squizo> funkmaster: having an "endianness test" fail seems to mean that you are trying to compile with some wrong option
[07:19] <lamego> i mean SpecialCore
[07:20] <Seveas> !find libgpg
[07:20] <ubotu> Found: libgpg-error-dev, libgpg-error0, libgpgme11, libgpgme11-dev, libgpgme-dev (and 4 others)
[07:20] <g-nome> can anyone tell me how to add repos to sources.list? (i only have a http address)
[07:20] <Seveas> !info libgpg-error-
[07:20] <ubotu> Package libgpg-error- does not exist in dapper
[07:20] <Seveas> !info libgpg-error0
[07:20] <ubotu> libgpg-error0: library for common error values and messages in GnuPG components. In repository main, is important. Version 1.1-4 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 120 kB
[07:20] <patrick_king> lamego: yeh my source.list is ok and sudo apt-get update doesnt have any problems but still no wormux
[07:20] <tich> so there is no way to automatically check for necessary package installation?
[07:20] <Seveas> SpecialCore, your sources.list is messed up - put it on the pastebin
[07:21] <lamego> PacketScan, if the apt-get hangs, its because he is unable to fetch the packages from the server, try to use another mirror
[07:21] <yallaman> anyone that could give me a little hand here, im on the verge of reinstalling..just to escape my probs:/  the issue at hand is: whenever i boot i get an error message that x cannot start..typing startx  starts fluxbox..i get no login manager...if i go to gnome from the fluxbox menu..and try to log out from gnome..i still dont get a login manager..i see the nvidia logo..i got direct rendering and 3d accel working
[07:21] <lamego> ops, patrick_king ^
[07:21] <The_Guardian> g-nome from your user directory cd ../../etc/apt
[07:21] <The_Guardian> sudo nano sources.list
[07:21] <g-nome> i know
[07:21] <g-nome> but HOW to add it?
[07:21] <g-nome> i mean just the http address?
[07:21] <patrick_king> lamego: what is the mirror you used
[07:21] <e-squizo> Asking again: has anybody succeeded getting glx working with an i915 under dapper?
[07:21] <The_Guardian> nano opens up the editor so it should be deb http:// etc
[07:22] <lamego> patrick_king, I am using uk, but you should select the mirror "closer" to you
[07:22] <The_Guardian> has anyone here got enlightenment to work with dapper?
[07:22] <patrick_king> lamego: i am from the uk
[07:22] <lamego> patrick_king, check /etc/apt/sources.list, make sure you are using uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <patrick_king> lamego: i have gb not uk
[07:23] <lamego> PacketScan, change it, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <AlexC> Can someone help me network to my other Mac ?
[07:24] <burepe2> I am gettting a "timestamp too far in the future" error when I try to sudo gedit sources.list. What is that all about?
[07:24] <lamego> then rerun the apt update
[07:24] <AlexC> Linux just wont do it
[07:24] <lamego> burepe2, that means there is something wrong with your clock/date
[07:24] <g-nome> The_Guardian: for ex, this one: "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./". Would it be ok like that? ( without having to add "dapper" or "main" or something?)
[07:25] <lamego> g-nome, use the plain sources.list and replace the http with ftp, but you will need all the other text on it
[07:25] <MikkelRev> Need help with my graphics card and my tv card: When I was trying to get my TV tuner working, I installed nvidia driver. Now I cant access X11 anymore, only the console, I get the errormessage instead saying NVIDIA: No Matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found... No devices detected. Any suggestions of how to install my graphics card and tv tuner?
[07:25] <ardchoille> which file dictates whether my sys uses xdm or gdm?
[07:25] <lamego> Mika_i, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <ardchoille> I want to change from xdm to gdm
[07:25] <g-nome> lamego: don't understand!?
[07:26] <Jago> MikkelRev: did you change devicename in your X config?
[07:27] <burepe2> Can I change the time by command line? I tried the gui but it won't sync
[07:28] <burepe2> actually the time in the gui is right but the command line one seems to be messed
[07:28] <nox23> hi
[07:28] <kdean06> When compiling a kernel with the make-kpkg, are there any specific things to pass to "optimize" it for Sempron chips? I know in there, you can specify "Processor Family". Is this it, or are there other options?
[07:28] <nox23> Seveas,  you still here ?
[07:28] <Awesome-o2000> MikkelRev, a lot of times your tv card will conflict with your video cards irq, with some motherboards you have to have it right next to the video card in the first pci slot, and with others you can't use that slot. Its really a flip of the coin.
[07:28] <patrick_king> lamego: i changed them from gb to uk but it still stops and the headers bit
[07:28] <lamego> burepe2, try executing date again
[07:28] <lamego> PacketScan, did you sudo apt-get update ?
[07:28] <Awesome-o2000> try it in the first pci slot - if you have it in that slot already try it in the next one down.
[07:29] <burepe2> lamego: what is executing date?
[07:29] <lamego> burepe2, is executing "date" on a terminal
[07:29] <Inferus> Hi all, i've apt-get on mythTV, how do i use it please
[07:29] <MikkelRev> lamego: I tried that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, sais: Package 'xserver-org' is not isntalled and no info is available. I then tried: sudo apt-get install xserver-org, but it couldnt find package
[07:29] <xolot1> i have two ubuntu boxes, and last time i had this one up, i set up samba (i thought) and could mount the other box's folders, etc.  now i cant even connect to the other box with places->network servers. is there a daemon i should be starting or anything?
[07:29] <g-nome> how to install a deb package again? (with being able to remove it COMPLETELY)?
[07:29] <patrick_king> lamego: yes i did
[07:29] <lamego> xorg, not org
[07:29] <phrowzen> does anyone know why my sound volume in ubuntu seems so much quieter than in comparison to windows? i used alsamixer as well as the GUI based program to check my levels, they are all maxed, but its still about 2/3 the volume at the same speaker setting
[07:30] <AlexC> Will someone help me network to my networked Mac, please?
[07:30] <patrick_king> lamego: it didnt have any troubles
[07:30] <phace> hi all... how can i download enlightenment or wmaker for ubuntu ?
[07:30] <lamego> patrick_king, I am out of ideas, it must be a network issue. I am able to fetch packages from those repositores without problems
[07:30] <nox23> My X.ORG Server have its libdri.a modules (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libdri.a) corrupted , when name it to libdri.a srv wont start , if i rename to libdri.old everything works fine
[07:30] <Awesome-o2000> phrowzen, modinfo your cards module and see if theres an option for it
[07:30] <burepe2> lameg  I did and it is fine but when I get the error is says a time tomorrow. weird
[07:30] <nox23> Is there a way using apt-get or something , to repair a X.ORG installation ?
[07:30] <g-nome> how to install a .deb package again? (with being able to remove it completely)?
[07:31] <phrowzen> Awesome-o2000, thanks, ill check it out
[07:31] <MikkelRev> Awesome-o2000: I had no problems using them in Windows
[07:31] <Awesome-o2000> g-nome, man dpkg
[07:31] <patrick_king> lamego: arh thanks for ya help anyway, i will keep trying
[07:31] <MikkelRev> Awesome-o2000: tv and graphics card
[07:31] <Inferus> Hi all, i've apt-get on mythTV, how do i set it up please
[07:31] <lamego> nox23, what makes you believe it is corrupted ? the module could be ok but generating a fatal error
[07:31] <Awesome-o2000> MikkelRev, thats nice.
[07:31] <Seveas> nox23, fglrx does not use dri, fix your xorg.conf (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[07:31] <xolot1> may i have some samba help please? :)
[07:32] <phace> hi all... how can i download enlightenment or wmaker for ubuntu ?
[07:32] <burepe2> !myth tv
[07:32] <lamego> nox23, and renaming system files is not very wize to do
[07:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about myth tv
[07:32] <PacketScan> lamego, huh? i don't want your answering.. wasn't my Q?  or it was something else.
[07:32] <nox23> lamego,  one of the tutorials i folowed to update driver told me to downgrade this driver to an older version , so i did but i was kinda new with linux and didnt made a backup of the original module
[07:32] <burepe2> !mythtv
[07:32] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[07:32] <lamego> PacketScan, sorry, it was for patrick_king
[07:32] <boricua> i want to disable the root account again since i had to enable momentarily  i typed according to the wiki sudo passwd -l root  but it is not disabling it any ideas?
[07:32] <PacketScan> lamego, ok , just sitting here thinking i'm losing it :d
[07:32] <Seveas> boricua, it should disable it - what happens instead?
[07:32] <AlexC> Will someone help me network to my networked Mac, please?
[07:33] <MikkelRev> Awesome-o2000: yes, but now neither my graphics card nor my tv card will work in gnu
[07:33] <|Kazzkizz> no i am sick and tired of ubuntu... now it won't start at all! because of the last step in the howto ati guide.
[07:33] <boricua> Seveas: i can still login as root and su as well   this is what i see aster@lares:~$ sudo passwd -l root
[07:33] <boricua> Password changed.
[07:34] <The_Guardian> has anyone here been able to install enlightenment on dapper?
[07:34] <nox23> Seveas, so when the config utility ask me to add the DRI modules information , i can say no ??
[07:34] <Awesome-o2000> MikkelRev, Ive given you my 2c. what you do with it is your choice. Im not going to argue with you about it.
[07:34] <lnxkde> boricua
[07:34] <|Kazzkizz> name kristian
[07:34] <lnxkde> boricua : u from PR?
[07:34] <lamego> |Kazzkizz, easy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <Otacon22> Someone CAN help me aboute the usage of hcitool???????????????????????
[07:34] <Otacon22> *about
[07:35] <lnxkde> boricua : from what city?
[07:35] <AlexC> |Kazzkizz: I had the same problem, the best way I did it was not to do the dpkg --configure but instead manully edit /usr/X1//xorg.conf and change ATI to FGLRX
[07:35] <Seveas> boricua, odd, do you use nis/ldap for accounts perhaps?
[07:35] <phace> exit
[07:35] <Seveas> nox23, which config utility?
[07:35] <boricua> Seveas: no nis nor ldap  this is seriously odd
[07:35] <AlexC> Will someone help me network to my networked Mac, please?
[07:35] <Seveas> boricua, indeed. Does the password field in /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd start with an '!'?
[07:36] <jason> any one know how to fix the direct conect thingy with gaim?
[07:36] <nox23> Seveas, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <MikkelRev> How do I remove the newly installed nvidia drivers? After I installed it, X11 fails to load
[07:36] <boricua> Seveas, root:$1$   nope
[07:36] <|Kazzkizz> Alexc, i have tried so many times now, i can the manual in my head :P
[07:36] <nox23> Seveas, Theres a place in the config where you can select wich modules to load and DRI is checked by default
[07:36] <lnxkde> boricua : eres de PUERTO RICO?
[07:36] <Seveas> nox23, if you pick 'fglrx' as driver there, it should not even ask about dri
[07:36] <Seveas> boricua, and /etc/shadow?
[07:36] <nox23> Seveas, well it does.. and two times :P
[07:37] <lamego> selection fglrx does ask for the modules, but dri is not selected by default
[07:37] <boricua> shadow has a !
[07:37] <AlexC> Will someone help me network to my networked Mac, please?
[07:37] <lamego> selecting
[07:37] <boricua> by itself
[07:37] <Seveas> lamego, ah 
[07:37] <nox23> Seveas,  so i should just disable all options about DRI and writing dri modules to my config files
[07:37] <Seveas> AlexC, last warning: stop repeating
[07:37] <Seveas> nox23, correct
[07:37] <MikkelRev> AlexC: try #mac
[07:37] <AlexC> Seveas: i'm only trying to get help
[07:37] <jason> why doesnt direct IM work in gaim?
[07:37] <jeffp> what is up over here
[07:37] <AlexC> MikkelRev: im using Ubuntu.....I need Ubuntu help, not Mac help
[07:37] <mayank> does anyone has experienced "**Error**: You must have 'glib' installed error while compiling the projects in anjuta
[07:37] <Seveas> AlexC, so are others and they don't keep repeating.
[07:37] <boricua> Seveas, i really would like to disable this  i have no idean i did as the wiki said both as sudo user and as root as well
[07:38] <lamego> boricua, you can do it the hard way, manually editing /etc/passwd and shadow files
[07:38] <burepe2> apt-get update is giving me "NO_PUBKEY" errors. I guess I have the keys I need from source-o-matic, but I don't know how to add them or whatever. Lil' help?
[07:38] <lamego> mayank, that means you need to install glib
[07:38] <The_Guardian> if anyone here has been able to successfully install a GUI for dapper please pm me
[07:38] <lamego> The_Guardian, what do you mean by a GUI ?
[07:39] <boricua> how is the hard way but i would like to report this as a security bug as well
[07:39] <The_Guardian> graphical User interface
[07:39] <burepe2> The_Guardian: what do you mean? did you install form disk?
[07:39] <lamego> Thardas, duhh, dapper comes with GUIs all around
[07:39] <The_Guardian> nod, but the server edition does not contain a gui
[07:39] <lamego> The_Guardian, easy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <orbin> AlexC: might be worth searching the forum for your mac model while you wait
[07:39] <mayank> apt-get lets that there is no package named glib
[07:39] <Seveas> The_Guardian, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <janmmm> aloha
[07:39] <jason> How do you get Direct IM to work on Gaim?
[07:39] <Seveas> !find libglib
[07:39] <ubotu> Found: libglib-perl, libglib1.2, libglib1.2-dbg, libglib1.2-dev, libglib2.0-cil (and 11 others)
[07:40] <Seveas> !find libglib2
[07:40] <ubotu> Found: libglib2.0-cil, libglib2-ruby, libglib2.0-0, libglib2.0-0-dbg, libglib2.0-data (and 2 others)
[07:40] <Seveas> mayank, libglib2.0-dev
[07:40] <lamego> jason, never heard of Direct IM, any idea on the protocol it uses ?
[07:40] <jason> lamego, AIM
[07:41] <MikkelRev> How do I remove the newly installed nvidia drivers? After I installed it, X11 fails to load
[07:41] <The_Guardian> aye I was hoping someone had successfully got enlightenment installed
[07:41] <kristian> lamega, thx
[07:41] <lamego> Jason I believe gaim does support AIM
[07:41] <boricua> lamego:again how is the hard way to disable root login
[07:41] <Inferus> Hi all, i have myth TV and its complaining it cant connect to my mysql server, how do i know if its running or not
[07:41] <janmmm> MikkelRev: just change driver from "nvidia" to "nv" in /etc/X11.xorg.conf
[07:42] <Inferus> infact, i know mysql is running
[07:42] <Inferus> why wont mysql work with mythtv
[07:42] <jason> lamego yes i know that, im using it, but i want to use direct IM but it doesnt work
[07:42] <lamego> boricua, I will give you a pastebin address with the line for root on both files, you will need to manually edit and make your root entry the same
[07:42] <lamego> !pastebin
[07:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:42] <nox23> Seveas,  using glxgears command i get : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:42] <mayank> thanks now its working
[07:43] <nox23> And my opengl is not active :(
[07:43] <Seveas> nox23, glxinfo | grep direct
[07:43] <Seveas> do you have direct rendering?
[07:43] <hou5ton> last time I put Dapper on this laptop, it refused to do 1440x900 screen resolution, although Breezy worked fine with it. Dapper ingores the xorg.conf file and goes to 1027x768. If I take all the other options out EXCEPT 1440x900, the screen just goes black.
[07:44] <hou5ton> Before I try again, any ideas what's going on?
[07:44] <nox23> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:44] <nox23> direct rendering: No
[07:44] <lamego> bobslaede, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16459 <- disabled root entries
[07:44] <lamego> boricua, ^
[07:44] <ompaul> !resolution
[07:44] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:44] <Ng> hou5ton: /var/log/Xorg.0.log should (somewhere, it's a big log) tell you why it rejected that screenmode
[07:44] <_sp1d3r_> who
[07:44] <nox23> Seveas, thats what i get for  glxinfo | grep direct
[07:44] <ompaul> hou5ton, read that reference from ubotu
[07:44] <Seveas> nox23, lsmod | grep fglrx
[07:44] <Seveas> does that give any output?
[07:44] <MikkelRev> janmmm: I did, now it sais: NV: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found... No devices detected
[07:45] <lamego> nox23, it will tell you if you have 3d hw support
[07:45] <boricua> lamego, how can i report this to ubuntu people  this is actually on a server machine
[07:45] <nox23> yep im getting an output
[07:45] <nox23> want me to past?
[07:45] <Seveas> ok
[07:45] <Inferus> How do i run some kind of mysql configuration utility?
[07:45] <Inferus> please
[07:45] <janmmm> quick question: i'm gonna install ndiswrapper from sourceforge.net sources, will I need any additional packages to do it? I don't want to reboot to Win every time I find some missing dependency...
[07:45] <Seveas> nox23, on the pastebin
[07:45] <lamego> bobslaede, https://launchpad.net/ <- fill a bug
[07:45] <lamego> grrr, boricua ^
[07:45] <Inferus> How do i run some kind of mysql configuration utility to re-set the ROOT password?
[07:46] <mandie26> hello, does anyone know how to solve a libglade warning?
[07:46] <nox23> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/71366
[07:46] <janmmm> MikkelRev: switch to vesa then...
[07:46] <lamego> Inferus, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[07:46] <Seveas> mandie26, not if you don't tell us the warning
[07:46] <lamego> Inferus, thats a google friendly question :)
[07:46] <mandie26> it's runnning wallpaper-tray
[07:46] <Seveas> nox23, ok, pastebin your xorg.conf now
[07:46] <Inferus> suppose
[07:46] <mandie26> it depends what i click on
[07:46] <Inferus> but im trying to set up mythTV lamego
[07:46] <godmachine81> how hard is it to upgrade from debian etch to ubuntu?
[07:46] <nox23> Seveas, ok sec
[07:46] <Inferus> i have given it my root
[07:46] <Inferus> account
[07:46] <Inferus> and it is still failing
[07:47] <anilruby> exit
[07:47] <Ng> godmachine81: hard enough that you probably don't want to do it, afaik ;)
[07:47] <mandie26> Seveas, for example: (wp_tray:1030): libglade-WARNING **: could not find signal handler 'on_button_rem_dir_pressed'.
[07:47] <Seveas> Inferus, by default the mysql root password is empty
[07:47] <kristian> Direct rendering: Yes, is that wrong? :P
[07:47] <lamego> Inferus, by the default the mysql root user does not have a password, why are you trying to reset it ?
[07:47] <godmachine81> Ng,  just wondering
[07:47] <Inferus> well
[07:47] <Seveas> mandie26, that application should be fixed
[07:47] <Inferus> im not trying to reset it
[07:47] <Inferus> im trying to use it
[07:47] <mandie26> Seveas, what do you mean?
[07:47] <Inferus> and then when i run an application it comes up "no password set in mysql.txt for root"
[07:47] <lamego> Inferus, try mysql -u root mysql
[07:48] <Seveas> mandie26, wp_tray has a small error that causes this apparently
[07:48] <nox23> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/71368
[07:48] <Inferus> lamego, nothing ?
[07:48] <lampshade> godmachine81: the saying is that although Ubuntu is based on Debian, and somethings might run together, it isn't guaranteed at all that they will.  If you use like debian etch stuff and go to Ubuntu it might work but it will be luck more than anything
[07:48] <mandie26> oh, ok, so it is not working, then
[07:48] <Seveas> nox23, yep, that one has some errors, hang on
[07:48] <e-squizo> has anybody gotter OPENGL to work with the i915 in dapper?
[07:48] <godmachine81> lampshade, thats kinda what i was thinking
[07:48] <mandie26> does anyone knwo another app to do wallpaper rotation?
[07:48] <lamego> Inferus, I dont know mythtv, anyway you should create an user/db for mythtv and put it on the mythtv config
[07:49] <Inferus> i've tried ;/
[07:49] <jason> Does Anyone know HOw to get Direct IM to work with gaim with AIM protocol
[07:49] <lamego> erm, isn't mythtv a tv related program ? why doest it need mysql at all ?
[07:49] <godmachine81> do you all know of anything like a repo for debian that is based on ubuntu but compiled for a debian base install?
[07:49] <AlexC> Anyone know how to network to a Mac from Ubuntu?
[07:49] <lamego> godmachine81, your questions doesn't make sense
[07:49] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi all. I'm having trouble with my wireless card. It worked fine for ages but now it won't get an IP via DHCP and if I set an IP I still cant access the network. Any idea's?
[07:49] <Seveas> nox23, your Section "module" should look like what's on http://pastebin.ca/71369
[07:50] <anilruby> !build > anil
[07:50] <nox23> Seveas, yeah im supposed to be in 1440x900 max. resolution since i load fglrx driver i can only load 1024x768 , probably something wrong with that xorg.conf :P
[07:50] <anilruby> !build > anilruby
[07:50] <AlexC> Dude, i'm only trying to get help and the last time I asked was over 10 mins ago!
[07:50] <godmachine81> how does that not make sense.. all i mean is like the packages that are newer that are in ubuntu, is their a repo for debian, that contains those packages ported over to debian
[07:50] <anilruby> !build-essential > anilruby
[07:50] <karim2001> Bonjour
[07:50] <MikkelRev> janmmm: I did, now it sais: VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found... No devices detected
[07:50] <lamego> AlexC, we know that, we where here at the time, and are reading your question *AGAIN*
[07:51] <lamego> AlexC, do you hope some mac user joined in the last 10 minutes ?
[07:51] <AlexC> I really don't see how someone using Mac can help me network from UBUNTU
[07:51] <Inferus> Connection timed out.
[07:51] <Inferus> You probably should modify the Master Server settings
[07:51] <Inferus> in the setup program and set the proper IP address.
[07:51] <Inferus> 2006-06-25 18:51:13.908 Connecting to backend server: localhost:6543 (try 1 of 1
[07:51] <lampshade> AlexC: depending on what you are trying to do it could be really easy.  Just transfer files via SSH(using scp or something like that)  Network is a really generic word.  Explain more
[07:51] <godmachine81> i guess it just dont make sense because it doesnt exist, but it would be a good thing.
[07:51] <nox23> Seveas, ok , restarting interface
[07:51] <janmmm> MikkelRev: sorry, I got no idea what the problem is. Try to restore xorg.conf from backup maube...
[07:52] <AlexC> lampshade ahhhh forget it, Linux just isn't worth the hassel
[07:52] <AlexC> tada, off to watch Lost
[07:52] <mandie26> Seveas, do u know an alternative to wp_tray
[07:52] <Seveas> mandie26, I don't even know what it is 
[07:52] <lamego> AlexC, bye, next time if you dont like linux you could avoid us have to read you
[07:52] <mandie26> Seveas, it a lil app that changes the wallpaper randomly, lol
[07:53] <MikkelRev> janmmm: How? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org said: Package 'xserver-org' is not installed and no info is available
[07:53] <godmachine81> mandie26,  what WM are you using?
[07:53] <Ng> MikkelRev: xserver-xorg
[07:53] <lamego> MikkelRev, its -xorg, not -org
[07:53] <mandie26> godmachine81, gnome
[07:53] <nox23> Seveas,  still not working :(
[07:53] <godmachine81> ahh
[07:53] <godmachine81> in fluxbox you can fix fbsetbg to do that
[07:53] <nox23> Seveas,  and cant get my resolution to worn in 1440x900 :/
[07:54] <The_Guardian> can anyone walk me through installing enlightenment on dapper?
[07:54] <nox23> .. to work
[07:54] <Seveas> nox23, odd -- is the package 'xorg-driver-fglrx' installed?
[07:54] <mandie26> godmachine81, no luck..
[07:54] <godmachine81> The_Guardian, e16 or e17?
[07:54] <The_Guardian> e17
[07:54] <nox23> Seveas,  I did install it yesterday, sec i will make sure it is
[07:54] <Seveas> nox23, wait a minute -- how old is the X800 (You're using an X800, right?)
[07:54] <MikkelRev> ok, I did -xorg, but same result
[07:54] <godmachine81> do you have edevelop.org  in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:55] <lamego> MikkelRev, erm, are you running X/gnome ?
[07:55] <nox23> Seveas, yes its a X800 pro i bough from ATI refurbished center a year ago
[07:55] <lamego> if you are you must have done a typo, again,
[07:55] <Awesome-o2000> i had an x800gto - what a PITA in linux, i bought an nvidia card
[07:55] <Seveas> ah, ok, so the fglrx driver from october should work with it
[07:55] <The_Guardian> ahh nope I had http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main
[07:56] <The_Guardian> just deb edevelop.org?
[07:56] <nox23> Seveas, 'xorg-driver-fglrx' is installed :/
[07:56] <MikkelRev> nm, graphics card works now
[07:56] <lamego> be advised that installing pure debian packages on ubuntu may not work due to missing dependencies
[07:57] <godmachine81> The_Guardian,  no
[07:57] <godmachine81> the gefechtsdienst.de site is a bit outdated afaik
[07:57] <Inferus> craig@debix:~$ mythbackend
[07:57] <Inferus> 2006-06-25 18:57:15.612 New DB connection, total: 1
[07:57] <Inferus> No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.
[07:57] <Inferus> Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page
[07:57] <Inferus> of the general settings.
[07:57] <Inferus>  << Anyone help please?
[07:57] <The_Guardian> aye I was having a lot of trouble with it
[07:57] <Seveas> nox23, ok, just to be sure: reboot, then run 'dmesg > temp.txt' and put the contents of temp.txt on the pastebin
[07:58] <Inferus> sry
[07:58] <MikkelRev> I have a list of about 14 things I want to do, but cannot do in GNU/ubuntu yet, and why I still have Windows. Getting TV tuner working is one of the entries in my wishlist
[07:58] <godmachine81> The_Guardian,  pm me
[07:58] <nox23> Seveas, brb
[07:59] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi all. I'm having trouble with my wireless card. It worked fine for ages but now it won't get an IP via DHCP and if I set an IP I still cant access the network. Any idea's?
[07:59] <godmachine81> MikkelRev, i dont see how the tv tuner doesnt work right.. the hauppage dvbs work ok
[07:59] <andriijas> sit1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:59] <Inferus> is the subnet mask set properly godmachine81 ?
[07:59] <godmachine81> what?
[07:59] <Eroick> Hello, Im having an issue with Dapper Drake. My computer randomly crashes. I have no clue why, as there is no hint given by the computer. When it is crashed, CTRL-ALT-BKSPACE and CTRL-ALT-DEL as well as CTRL-ALT-F* do not do anything. There might be a chance that this is caused by network. It seems that I am always downloading something when it crashes. My network card is a Netgear Wg111...
[07:59] <Eroick> ...running on the ndiswrapper module. My computer is currently in the crashed state and I am on another one. Any ideas? I have a AMD TBird @ 1ghz, a Nvidia GForce, a NetGear WG111 (USB WiFi card) and 256 mb of ram. Help :-)!
[08:01] <bcl> ok, I give -- what package provides aclocal? I thought it was part of autoconf...
[08:01] <lamego> bcl, I believe its automake
[08:01] <bcl> lamego, bingo! Thanks.
[08:01] <chillfaktor> bazzi? r u there? :)
[08:01] <andriijas> sit1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:01] <andriijas> how do i make it?
[08:01] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, have you run memtest on it?
[08:02] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: nope. whats that?
[08:02] <lampshade> Eroick: dunno, but if I were you I would try using it for a long time without the network card and see if that makes it crash.  Then you can at least know that the card is probably the cause and then troubleshoot from there
[08:02] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, it tests your system ram for errors - it SHOULD be in your boot menu
[08:02] <Awesome-o2000> I think ubuntu puts memtest in there by default
[08:02] <nox23> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/71378
[08:02] <void^> usb wlan is always a likely cause for crashes (and that's true for windows as well) :(
[08:03] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: yeah, its running right now.
[08:03] <Awesome-o2000> void^, it KILLS my gentoo box. Both of them.
[08:03] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick,right on - do 3 passes at least
[08:03] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: will it fix anything? or will it just give errors?
[08:04] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, itll just let you know. You can't fix ram =- but theres a badram patch for linux
[08:04] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: how long will 3 passes take?
[08:04] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, ill be honest with you though - most of the time when I get errors in memory its due to bios misconfiguration
[08:04] <lamego> if you had bad ram you should just replace it :P
[08:04] <Eroick> lamego: im too cheap :P.
[08:04] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, not long with 256
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> hey
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> everybody...
[08:05] <void^> sometimes ram errors are fixed by cycling the sticks or similar cheap tricks
[08:05] <nox23> hi
[08:05] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, do you have a 133 or a 100mhz tbird?
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> has anybody else seen a serious decline in the ability to use scroll wheels since upgrading to the latest milestone build of dapper?
[08:05] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: 1ghz
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> i dont know if iuta actually dapper itself or the build of firefox that accompanies it
[08:06] <nox23> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/71378
[08:06] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, the FSB - is it 133 or 100
[08:06] <Seveas> nox23, odd, that looks ok
[08:06] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: no clue
[08:06] <lamego> shadeofgrey, I didn't noticed any change related to scroll wheels
[08:06] <Seveas> nox23, coult you put the output of glxinfo there
[08:06] <shadeofgrey> but these days my scroll wheel is pretty much useless when in browser wwindiws and i cant for the life of me figuire out why
[08:06] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: oh, wait. 133 :)
[08:06] <lamego> my firefox scrolls just fine
[08:07] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, and its a single 256mb pc133 ram chip?
[08:07] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: at least, I think so. Memtest shows that
[08:07] <XHK> Is there any program for linux, where I can see computers temperatures?
[08:07] <nox23> Seveas,  glxinfo : http://pastebin.ca/71384
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> AT firest i thought it might be my mouse, but the scroll wheel works fine in all my other mission critical applications
[08:07] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, yeah - my bet is that you have a 100fsb CPU and you're running your ram @ 133
[08:07] <Seveas> XHK, browse through /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> hi Seaveas!
[08:07] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, I only say this because I owned 2 tbird systems and it took me a lot of trial and error
[08:07] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: here is memtest's info: 1 Cache: 128; 2 Cache: 256
[08:07] <XHK> Seveas, thx Ill check out
[08:07] <lamego> XHK, I believe you can use gdesklets and lm_sensors
[08:08] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, dont tell me
[08:08] <Seveas> nox23, ahh drat
[08:08] <Seveas> my mistake
[08:08] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, if I were you, i'd go through my mobo manual (download it if you need to)
[08:08] <Seveas> could you again pastebin your xorg.conf
[08:08] <Awesome-o2000> In fact I still HAVE one of those systems around somewhere
[08:08] <nox23> Seveas, sure just a sec.
[08:08] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: what does Chipset: VIA KT133 respersent?
[08:08] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, the good thing is when you turn your ram down to pc100 you'll be able to turn the speed to turbo
[08:09] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, the motherboard chipset - a very common one for that CPU
[08:09] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: how do I do the turbo speed :)?
[08:09] <nox23> Seveas, xorg.conf  http://pastebin.ca/71386
[08:09] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, you go into your bios - tell it to run your memory @ 100 instead of 133, and then it should give you some choices for timing
[08:10] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: can this harm my hardware at all?
[08:10] <Seveas> nox23, add this at the bottom:
[08:10] <Seveas> Section "DRI"
[08:10] <Seveas>         Mode    0666
[08:10] <Seveas> EndSection
[08:10] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, turning it UP can harm it - turning it down wont - besides - you arent turning down your CPU- just your memory. On those mobos the CPU fsb is usually set via a jumper
[08:11] <ice228> hello
[08:11] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: what is fsb?
[08:11] <funkmaster> does anyone know how to get the sound working with *.3gp media files?
[08:11] <ice228> front side bus
[08:11] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, front side bus
[08:11] <nox23> Seveas, restarting
[08:12] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, can you see inside the case of that tbird?
[08:12] <ice228> i have no sound and the info at the website hasnt helped at all, could anyone enlighten me as to what to do plz?
[08:12] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: i could if i wanted to. but its still memtesting
[08:12] <Awesome-o2000> ice228, youre going to have to give more info than that
[08:13] <ice228> one sec, found something out
[08:13] <rdz> hi all. i have fglrx installed, but i have troubles with it (xvideo-output doesn't work). how can i switch back to the free drivers (i don't care about worse 3d-performance right now...)
[08:13] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, its more important you know whether your CPU is a 100 or 133 fsb.
[08:13] <nox23> Seveas, still cant get in 1440x900 , and Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:13] <FarrisG> Is there any definitive explanation on why DVD burning is slow using any tool?
[08:13] <lamego> rdz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the ati driver
[08:13] <bcl> rdz, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver back to "radeon"
[08:14] <bcl> rdz, or what lamego said :)
[08:14] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: will it not show in BIOS?
[08:14] <rdz> lamego, bcl thanks fot the hints..
[08:14] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, on that old school cheapie board - i doubt it
[08:15] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, all the kt133's Ive had that set through the bios
[08:16] <cute_bettong> i need to speak to a freenode staff now
[08:16] <cute_bettong> is there anyone here?
[08:16] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: why not just try and put it down to 100mhz?
[08:16] <Eroick> cute_bettong: probably not. #freenode is where you want to be
[08:16] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, because you shouldnt do that to your CPU.
[08:16] <nox23> Seveas, still cant get in 1440x900 , and Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:17] <Unintentional> does anyone know how I can control rhythmbox over a network?  whenever I try to send it commands via ssh, I get " Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:17] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: put the ram down to 100
[08:17] <antoniojulio> hi channel i need help for linuxvirtualserver, i have a one director and two www servers, and server say to me conecction refused, do channel help me, about lvs? i use ipvsadm
[08:17] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, because itll just give you worse problems if your CPU is made for a 133 mhz FSB
[08:18] <Eroick> so where am I going to find this number?
[08:18] <kevinz> hello. the sound from my ubuntu has a lot of noise, what can i turn to?
[08:18] <cute_bettong> why can i not speak in the #freenode chan?
[08:18] <cute_bettong> it won't let me and something nasty is going to happen
[08:18] <cute_bettong> if i don't speak to someone that needs to know what i found
[08:18] <cute_bettong> http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/25/1440236.shtml
[08:18] <cute_bettong> read the first reply
[08:18] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, for the third time, you're most likely going to need to look for a jumper on your mobo - it wouldnt kill you to check your mobo manual.
[08:19] <CrazyDoode> cute_bettong: old news, lilo is asleep
[08:19] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[08:19] <cute_bettong> i diden't know i just came acrost it
[08:19] <CrazyDoode> heh
[08:19] <cute_bettong> diden't know if that was known yet you know
[08:19] <Awesome-o2000> I wonder how someone hacked lilo
[08:20] <zenwhen> he was using windows me
[08:20] <dr_willis> His Cat got mad and took over.
[08:20] <Eroick> Awesome-o2000: not only do I not have the manual, but Im having troubles locating it online
[08:20] <Awesome-o2000> Eroick, which mobo?
[08:20] <moonunit> i need some way to convert .flac audio to .mp3
[08:20] <Eroick> VIA KT133
[08:22] <moonunit> is there a program that can convert .flac to .mp3?
[08:22] <Chetic> How do you block an application from using the internet connection?
[08:22] <moonunit> under ubuntu of course
[08:22] <dr_willis> Chetic,  im thinking not very easially. what application you refering to?
[08:23] <Chetic> any application, dr_willis :p
[08:23] <lamego> Chetic, I believe firestarted allows to to that easly
[08:23] <lamego> firestarted i mean
[08:23] <lamego> erm, firestarter
[08:23] <Chetic> firestarter hm
[08:23] <DBO> Chetic, no, firestarter wont either
[08:24] <DBO> Chetic, what are you looking to block?
[08:24] <Chetic> uh a connection?
[08:24] <DBO> Chetic, which application...
[08:24] <lamego> he wants to know the protocol so that it can be blocked at the port/ip level :P
[08:24] <DBO> bingo =P
[08:25] <DBO> linux uses a true firewall, none of this application level bs
[08:25] <dr_willis> Chetic,  you are wanting to block a SINGLE specific application - is what we are getting at?  it depends on the app to some degree -
[08:25] <Chetic> oh okay
[08:25] <Chetic> well ok, a game
[08:25] <ice228> hi, what would i use to play .pls files? its streamed audio
[08:25] <DBO> which game?
[08:26] <lampshade> ice228: Rhythmbox and Amarok both play those I'm pretty sue
[08:26] <lampshade> sure
[08:26] <Chetic> uh Doom 3
[08:26] <ice228> rhytmbox doesnt play em
[08:26] <ice228> let me try amarok
[08:26] <Sebo> I've got a problem with a font package. After I downloaded fonts from http://sourceforge.net/projects/xfonts/, put them into my .fonts dir, executed fc-cache and restarted xserver none of these fonts were recorgnized
[08:26] <moonunit> can someone help me with a file converter
[08:26] <mDot> http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/25/1440236.shtml
[08:26] <DBO> Chetic, ok, you want to stop it from phoning home I assume, thats a very reasonable request
[08:26] <mDot> Freenode compromised
[08:27] <ice228> say what ?
[08:27] <mDot> read up
[08:27] <duncanmhor> ice228, lots of audio proggies apparently
[08:27] <Chetic> so where do I start, DBO?
[08:27] <DBO> Chetic, you need to disallow communications to idnet.ua-corp.com
[08:27] <lampshade> ice228: it does for me
[08:27] <Sebo> Does anybody know, what I did wrong?
[08:27] <DBO> Chetic, the easiest way to do this is to modify /etc/hosts
[08:27] <Fracture> anyonw know of a CD / DVD disk catalog system for linux ?
[08:27] <lampshade> ice228: just tried with virgin radio which is a .pls unless I'm missing something?
[08:27] <dr_willis> Fracture,  check freshmeat.net for a start.
[08:27] <duncanmhor> ice 228 http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=PLS
[08:27] <kristian> lamego, do i need to configure something after i have used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? Because I don't have the option to restart my pc...
[08:28] <dr_willis> lampshade ive played thiose with xmme i think.
[08:28] <DBO> Chetic, the very first line will be something like 127.0.0.1, and a bunch of entries seperated by spaces.  add this as another entry on that line
[08:28] <lamego> kristian, no, after selecting the driver you only need to restart X and all should be setup
[08:28] <ice228> umm, say what lamp ?
[08:28] <ice228> does amarok work on ubuntu? says kubuntu
[08:28] <DBO> Chetic, so it will look like 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain ubuntu idnet.ua-corp.com
[08:29] <mDot> ice228 yes
[08:29] <lamego> ice228, yes it does
[08:29] <ice228> thanks guys
[08:29] <lampshade> dr_willis: I'm not the one with the problem with it, ice228  is.  It plays fine for me.  .pls in amarok and rhythmbox
[08:29] <kristian> lamego, but i can't select restart? Why?
[08:29] <lamego> kristian, because that is something you can do manually ?
[08:29] <ice228> thanks, im trying to break the leash microsoft has on me
[08:29] <xolot1> how can i delete my entire amarok collection, so taht i can rescan it from scratch?
[08:29] <sparcd> I have downloaded the ubuntu desktop iso and am trying to install it on my machine, however it doesn't recognise my SATA RAID and shows two disks
[08:29] <antoniojulio> please i find a linuxvirtualserver channel support? do you help me?
[08:30] <CrippsFX> where are the java libs stored?
[08:30] <kristian> roger that lizm..
[08:30] <duncanmhor> sparcd, had the same problem here
[08:30] <dr_willis> sparcd,  i would have to advice.. dont mess with the raid.
[08:30] <Chetic> That's it, DBO?
[08:30] <DBO> Chetic, thats it
[08:30] <duncanmhor> agrees with dr_willis
[08:30] <dr_willis> sparcd,  many of the  raids out these days are semi-hardware-software raids. and not worth the effort.
[08:30] <sparcd> dr_willis: duncanmhor you advise not to use the raid?
[08:30] <lampshade> ice228: linux has a steep learning curve, but once you spend some time with it, it is no sweat.
[08:30] <lamego> antoniojulio, is your problem related to ubuntu ?
[08:30] <sparcd> dr_willis: therefore I can't use ubuntu then
[08:31] <duncanmhor> I've been messing about with it all day, following the walkthroughs and have very little hair left
[08:31] <dr_willis> sparcd,  you got windows set up using the raid allready?
[08:31] <Kalmm_> hello, is it safe to use apt-build instead of apt-get  in order tu install the ubuntu-desktop?
[08:31] <sparcd> dr_willis: yes
[08:31] <Fracture> dr_willis: yeah, I looked there.. couldn't find anything
[08:31] <antoniojulio> lamego: yes ,i have ubuntu and linuxvirtualserver and ldirector of universe repository and have errors ;-( do you help me
[08:31] <ChrisD> hello all
[08:31] <lampshade> CrippsFX: java libs?  Like you want to install java?  or?  you have and are just looking for where it installed?
[08:31] <Fracture> dr_willis: that's why I asked here
[08:31] <dr_willis> sparcd,  i got a cheap ide drive - just for linux.. I have a similer setup
[08:32] <dr_willis> sparcd,  messint with that raid - has the potentioal to be very very veyr ... annoying. :P
[08:32] <lamego> antoniojulio, you can give more details on the problem here...
[08:32] <ChrisD> Can anyone tell me how to adjust my CPU fan speed with lm-sensors?
[08:32] <CrippsFX> lampshade, well, specifically, I'd like to know where the $CLASSPATH var points to, but "echo $CLASSPATH" returns null
[08:32] <sparcd> dr_willis: so how about mounting the raid drive then once I have installed on a seperate IDE?
[08:32] <duncanmhor> actually came in here for some help with software raid after giving up on using fakeraid
[08:32] <dr_willis> ChrisD,  as far as i kniow - lm-sensors just detexts and reports the speeds.
[08:32] <CrippsFX> lampshade, so, I guess I'm looking for where it's installed
[08:32] <rajk> hey every1. i just did "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and there are umet dependencies. ive tried apt-get install -f..  any ideas?
[08:33] <dr_willis> sparcd,  ive got a data-sata raid on my box (ntfs) and still aint gotten linux to mount it yet.
[08:33] <benoy> does anyone know how to change the gdm login screen in ubuntu?
[08:33] <sparcd> ok, I'll have to leave linux well alone
[08:33] <ChrisD> Do you think there's any way I can regulate my fan speed?
[08:33] <duncanmhor> get through the install process fine, right up to the grub install, which bombs out
[08:33] <dr_willis> sparcd,  thus - more and more - im thinking raid is not worth the effort.. plus the benchmarks im running on it - show its not that great.
[08:33] <lamego> rajk, if there are unmet dependencies there is some problem with your repositores configuration...
[08:33] <sparcd> that's pretty lame that windows can handle it and linux is poor at it
[08:33] <CrippsFX> benoy, google does!
[08:33] <dr_willis> sparcd,  could play with live cd's :P till you save up for a IDE drive.
[08:33] <sparcd> dr_willis: raid is essential for data integrity
[08:33] <ice228> k, how do i download amarok ?
[08:33] <duncanmhor> sparcd, not being funny, but why not try a livecd out, see if you like it enought to get a cheap ide drive
[08:34] <rajk> lamego - which are the "safe" respositories?
[08:34] <lamego> dr_willis, raid doesn't worth the effort for data integrity ?? that's a joke ?
[08:34] <dr_willis> sparcd,  if you say so.. but are you sre you got it set up right? you got backups just in case...
[08:34] <orbin> ice228: sudo aptitude install amarok
[08:34] <orbin> ice228: or use synaptic
[08:34] <dr_willis> lamego,  all the gamer machines i see have it set up for just speed..  which is set to reduce data integrity.
[08:34] <CrippsFX> sparcd, the point is, install the OS on an IDE drive, and put your server data on the RAID
[08:34] <lamego> rajk, well, the "standard" reposities point to main, and main contains the build-essential packages and dependencies
[08:34] <lampshade> CrippsFX: mine points to nothing as well, though I haven't needed it for anything yet.  I haven't done any java compiling, though either.  Just installed the sun java.
[08:34] <dr_willis> lamego,  so it all depends on the details.
[08:34] <sparcd> duncanmhor: I have a live cd and have been using linux for years, I just need to know if I can now get it to work with my SATA RAID
[08:34] <duncanmhor> Ah, ok, sorry
[08:34] <CrippsFX> lampshade, yeah ... I'm doing java dev :/
[08:34] <lamego> dr_willis, you have seen people which dont know the real purpose of RAID, RAID is not for gamers
[08:34] <dr_willis> lamego,  guess thats just a   RAID - thje R    :P
[08:34] <CrippsFX> sparcd, I have.
[08:35] <Chetic> DBO: It works! Thank you very much!
[08:35] <dr_willis> lamego,  yep. i agree
[08:35] <sparcd> CrippsFX: but someone just said I won't be able to get the data off the RAID
[08:35] <CrippsFX> sparcd, an existing raid?
[08:35] <dr_willis> lamego,  i also see raid users that dont bother with backups.
[08:35] <rajk> universe mulitverse ones are ok?
[08:35] <sparcd> CrippsFX: yes, existing raid
[08:35] <xolot1> ice228: http://amarok.kde.org/
[08:35] <DBO> Chetic, you're very welcome, and if you tell anyone I helped you, I'll deny all knowledge of your existance =P
[08:35] <dr_willis> and many of the onboard motherboard raid controllers.. are well... lacking. :)
[08:35] <lamego> spacey, rajk: deb ftp://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:35] <CrippsFX> dr_willis, yeah, that can be a PITA when you don't have the spare drives for redundancy ;)
[08:36] <CrippsFX> sparcd, RAID that you set up in windows?
[08:36] <Chetic> lmao
[08:36] <dr_willis> CrippsFX,  i got xp on an IDE, and Linxu on a 2nd ide.., and a 2 sata raid here.. just for game data. :P and videos
[08:36] <xolot1> ice228:  Backports of Amarok 1.4.0  Unofficial packages of Amarok 1.4 for Sarge made by Dennis Stosberg can be found at his Backports for Debian 3.1 page. APT sources for these packages can be added by adding the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[08:36] <ice228> thanks for the help yet again
[08:36] <CokeNCode> ok, i have this SERIOUSLy annoying problem
[08:36] <xolot1> deb http://deb.stosberg.net/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/amarok/ ./ deb-src http://deb.stosberg.net/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/amarok/ ./
[08:36] <dr_willis> I dont care about redundancy/intergity - i got a spare file server for a 2nd backup. but heck its all just porn.
[08:36] <dr_willis> err.. home movies. :)
[08:36] <CokeNCode> i'm trying to change the icon for a custom application launcher
[08:36] <CrippsFX> dr_willis, whats the point of having raid over 2 disks? ya gotta have *at least* 5 ;)
[08:37] <CrippsFX> ahh.
[08:37] <CokeNCode> when i click to change the icon, the window just open and then quickly closes
[08:37] <sparcd> CrippsFX: I set the raid up on the BIOS
[08:37] <CokeNCode> :@
[08:37] <xolot1> does anyone know how i an delete my amarok collectoin?
[08:37] <CokeNCode> *opens
[08:37] <CrippsFX> sparcd, so you have a RAID controller then.
[08:37] <dr_willis> CrippsFX,  testing out the speeds mainly. It does seem to help a little with my torrents :)
[08:37] <sparcd> CrippsFX: I have a intel matrix storage controller
[08:37] <duncanmhor> lol @ dr_willis
[08:37] <CokeNCode> same thing happens when i try to create a custom application launcher, and create an icon for it
[08:37] <CrippsFX> dr_willis, there is that.
[08:37] <lamego> CrippsFX, uh ? Raid 1 its perfect with 2 disks
[08:37] <orangey> hey all!
[08:37] <CokeNCode> what hte heck is going on ?
[08:37] <CrippsFX> lamego, yeah, but technically it's *not* RAID :P
[08:37] <sparcd> CrippsFX: it's built into the motherboard
[08:38] <orangey> I have a USB Video camera (Sony min-DV), and was wondering how exactly I could extract information from it..
[08:38] <dr_willis> (-R)AID 1
[08:38] <CokeNCode> well, msg me the answer if anyone can figure it out ... brb
[08:38] <orangey> no module inherently loads up on it..
[08:38] <CokeNCode> thanks
[08:38] <lamego> CrippsFX, why not ?
[08:38] <kristian> lamego, take a look :
[08:38] <kristian> direct rendering: No
[08:38] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:38] <kristian> Is that correct?
[08:38] <rajk> lamego, ive reduced the sources.list file to just the main one and im still getting the dependency errors
[08:38] <vanberge> i'll try one more time:...  :-)   does anybody know of a program for linux/ubuntu that automatically rotates desktop wallpapers??  Thansk in advance!
[08:38] <CrippsFX> sparcd, well, I've only done software RAID, so that's beyond me. I think you should be able to find the module and load it, then mount the device as a single storage device.
[08:38] <Barkley> what's a good app that shows CPU usage and stats like that on the desktop?
[08:38] <lamego> is a Redundant Array of Inexpenseive 2 Disks
[08:39] <sparcd> CrippsFX: something like dmraid?
[08:39] <erUSUL> orangey: have you tried kino?
[08:39] <lampshade> Barkley: I use gkrellm.  Gives me my laptop temps and fan speeds
[08:39] <lampshade> networking et
[08:39] <lampshade> c
[08:39] <e-squizo> has anybody gotten opengl to work properly on i915 under dapper?
[08:39] <orangey> erUSUL: even without the USB apparently being detected with dmesg?
[08:39] <lampshade> but otherwise, there are some built in Applets that you can add to the panel that might do what you are looking for.
[08:39] <CrippsFX> lamego, RAID = Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks ... Redundancy is for fault-tolerance. if you have "RAID" over 2 disks (unless it's mirroring) it's not truly redundant. ... but by 2 disks, most people mean Striped disks (aka RAID0)
[08:39] <lamego> rajk, erm you dont need to reduce the apt list, you just need to use the plain source.list from a fresh install, do an apt-get update and apt-get install buld-essensial
[08:40] <lamego> CrippsFX, erm, I said, RAID 1 which is mirroring
[08:40] <CrippsFX> sparcd, honestly, I don't know.
[08:40] <Barkley> lamshade that's a good suggestion.   im looking for something that has a nice big display for remote viewing on a server
[08:40] <sparcd> CrippsFX: I run RAID 1 on two disks
[08:40] <antoniojulio> lamego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16462 and send command links2 192.168.2.119:80 and say connection refused
[08:40] <CrippsFX> lamego, yeah .... I missed that :P
[08:40] <lamego> and techically, RAID 0, no mirring, is RAID
[08:40] <xolot1> /leave
[08:40] <xolot1> oops sorry
[08:40] <lamego> it means data spread over a disk array
[08:40] <antoniojulio> do channel help me about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16462 and send command links2 192.168.2.119:80 and say connection refused
[08:40] <CrippsFX> lamego, it's just striped disks ...
[08:41] <lamego> CrippsFX, thats RAID 0, performance raid
[08:41] <CrippsFX> lamego, data may be spread, but it's not fault-tolerant, which was one of the reasons RAID was developed.
[08:41] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi all. I'm having trouble with my wireless card. It worked fine for ages but now it won't get an IP via DHCP and if I set an IP I still cant access the network. Any idea's?
[08:41] <dr_willis> Bah! raid is just a marketing term! :P
[08:41] <CrippsFX> anyways ... that's a whole rant that I'm not gonna take any further ...
[08:41] <dr_willis> to brag about.
[08:41] <CrippsFX> watch your tongue!
[08:41] <CrippsFX> ;)
[08:41] <dr_willis> Really Awsome IDE Drives !
[08:42] <lamego> ok ok I give up :P
[08:42] <dr_willis> RAID!
[08:42] <Barkley> gkrellm looks good.  is there another pretty standard app that dumps all this out in text format on a transparent window?
[08:42] <CrippsFX> lol.
[08:42] <duncanmhor> lol
[08:42] <CrippsFX> so ... does anybody know where java gets installed to?
[08:42] <lamego> depends on the version and how you have installed it
[08:42] <lamego> on my case its at /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[08:43] <orangey> erUSUL: I have now tried Kino.. It works with 1394, but not with regular usb
[08:43] <lamego> the standard for ubuntu is /usr/lib/jvm/
[08:44] <orbin> Barkley: not sure if it's what you want, there's a couple of transparent gkrellm skins on gnomelook
[08:44] <steev> ok, so, i attempted to install a .deb that fialed because of dependencies - i've decided that i don't want that package, but apt just keep whining about wanting to install it - how do i tell it to ignore the package now?
[08:44] <duncanmhor> running 'grub-install (hd0)" has been on the screen for the past 10 minutes
[08:44] <CrippsFX> damn. thanks. thats the answer I was looking for, now it appears that I wasn't asking the right question ;)
[08:44] <duncanmhor> I have a sinking feeling
[08:44] <lamego> dr_willis, RAID is not marketing, you will be dead if you dont use RAID on something you get paid to keep alive
[08:45] <dr_willis> lamego,  bah! :P let it die! thats when it gets interesting.
[08:45] <pyro> Cueball: you do have the non-free kernel modules installed?
[08:45] <dr_willis> lamego,  its always funny to see all the boss's running about.
[08:45] <dr_willis> lamego,  can ya Guess that i dont work in "IT" :P
[08:46] <lamego> dr_willis, its even more funny seeing the system admin and all the system techs over-stressed when the disk fails
[08:46] <Barkley> transparent gkrellm....bingo!  thanks lampshade orbin
[08:46] <CrippsFX> dr_willis, if I could get my hands on about 3 PCI IDE controllers, I'd set up a really sweet RAID
[08:46] <dr_willis> lamego,  :P see.. in my job all the stress is on my boss and  his boss's - they depend on 'me' and  others to get thigns fixed. heh  of course I do work in a factory. not  a server farm
[08:47] <eegore> xmms is not working, it is moving and that is it
[08:47] <orbin> Barkley: found it: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33783
[08:47] <dr_willis> eegore,  movint?
[08:48] <Barkley> yeah that's pretty hot
[08:48] <orangey> hmm.
[08:48] <eegore> the didplay is running
[08:48] <eegore> display
[08:48] <jajaja-> i installed my usb wireless drivers correctly, but how can I connect to my wep network
[08:48] <ice228> im using amarok and it just keeps buffering
[08:48] <orangey> where can I find some people with experience in USB video camcorder stuff?
[08:48] <orbin> eegore: ctrl+p , then try changing the output plugin to esound
[08:48] <CrippsFX> does anybody know where the java classpath points to?
[08:48] <stalefries> orangey, usb video camcorder club?
[08:49] <duncanmhor> need some advice, have been trying to get software raid0 set up all day, should I just give up, and if so, what is a better option, LVM or a vanilla install?
[08:49] <orangey> stalefries: I can't find them on google.
[08:49] <duncanmhor> have 2 SATA 160GB drives
[08:49] <winman> Hey people, "sudo apt-get install anjuta" says "Couldn't find package: anjuta" .. what needs to be done to fix this?
[08:49] <lamego> duncanmhor, LVM provides software raid 0, at least the unix lvm does
[08:50] <eegore> yeah that did it but I don't understand why
[08:50] <lamego> !multiverse > winman
[08:50] <winman> thanks lamego :)
[08:50] <Anderson> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  40 2006-06-17 16:21 x-www-browser.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/mozilla-firefox.1.gz
[08:50] <lamego> np :)
[08:50] <Anderson> if I see something like that, am I looking at a hard link?
[08:50] <Cueball|Laptop> Hi all. I'm having trouble with my wireless card. It worked fine for ages but now it won't get an IP via DHCP and if I set an IP I still cant access the network. Any idea's? Would adding IRDA mess it up at all?
[08:51] <jajaja-> Anyone know the command for me to connect to my wireless network
[08:51] <Anderson> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  40 2006-06-17 16:21 x-www-browser.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/mozilla-firefox.1.gz
[08:51] <Anderson> if I see something like that, am I looking at a hard link?
[08:51] <duncanmhor> lamego, thanks
[08:51] <stalefries> jajaja, ifup eth0, or perhaps ifup wlan0
[08:51] <eegore> orbin: why is it like that
[08:51] <pyro> Cueball|Lapto: what chipset?
[08:51] <jajaja-> its wlan0 stalefries
[08:51] <lamego> Anderson, it's a soft link
[08:51] <duncanmhor> any walkthroughs on setting up dapper LVM
[08:51] <duncanmhor> ?
[08:51] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, it's an Orinoco.
[08:52] <stalefries> jajaja, then 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[08:52] <eegore> It use to work on alsa with the alsa settings
[08:52] <Anderson> Is a hard link the original link to the data on the disk?
[08:52] <jajaja-> says ignoring unknown interface stalefries
[08:52] <pyro> can you  "see" the kernel inteeface?
[08:52] <lamego> Ander, it's a soft link, it is just a reference to the file,
[08:52] <Solarion> muah ha ha ha ha
[08:52] <stalefries> jajaja, try it with eth0
[08:53] <orbin> eegore: dunno why tbh, something about OSS i guess
[08:53] <jajaja-> stalefries, says already configures
[08:53] <monomaniacpa1> yo! I have a problem with my upgrade... little help?
[08:53] <stalefries> jajaja, hm
[08:53] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, Yes. It's setup as eth1 and iwconfig recognises it. It associates with the AP but no traddic seems to go over it.
[08:53] <Anderson> Does the soft link locate the data directly, or find the original link first?
[08:54] <stalefries> jajaja, what was the original problem?
[08:54] <lamego> Ander, soft links are just pointers to the original file, there is just one data instance
[08:54] <pyro> Cueball|Laptop and if you set an IP Addr. yourself manually?
[08:54] <Solarion> where would a fix for a very very strange problem with a specific revision of a specific mobo go on the wiki?
[08:54] <jajaja-> stalefries, I need my wireless usb to connect to my encreypted network
[08:54] <kristian> When I have done sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , Then i have to download the driver? because then everything is removed, am I right?
[08:55] <monomaniacpa1> anyone know why all my programs quit the moment I type in a dialogue box like admin password or gaim chat box?
[08:55] <stalefries> jajaja, try System>Administration>Networking
[08:55] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, If I do that and try to ping the AP or any other client I get destination not reachable.
[08:55] <Anderson> The original file name is simply a reference to the physical location of data on the disk. Does the soft link have the same reference information, or does the soft link use the original files reference information?
[08:55] <eegore> The only bloated KDE app I use is K3b
[08:55] <orbin> what do people use to find "album info" and thus edit id3 tags relatively automtaically on music tracks?
[08:56] <pyro> Cueball|Laptop - What does iwconfig show ?
[08:56] <jajaja-> stalefries, says eth0 is active
[08:56] <stalefries> orbin, I use Banshee, with the Metadata searcher plugin
[08:56] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16463
[08:56] <Solarion> man ubuntu is tasty
[08:56] <Guitarhero> my terminal says ryan@(none):, so I think I screwed up my host name or something
[08:56] <Guitarhero> so i cant open my network admin
[08:56] <orbin> stalefries: thanks. will look into it
[08:56] <Guitarhero> how do i set it
[08:57] <stalefries> jajaja, click properties, and fill in the appropriate info
[08:57] <stalefries> orbin, your welcome
[08:57] <monomaniacpa1> anyone had problems with their keyboard after upgrading to dapper from breezy?
[08:57] <wastrel> Guitarhero:  edit /etc/hosts and add your hostname to the localhost list.  then edit /etc/hostname and add your hostname as a single line
[08:58] <kristian> can someone help me with my graphic card?
[08:58] <kristian> and don't send the guide please..
[08:58] <Solarion> kristian: what one?
[08:58] <kristian> ati, and the guide have I now in my head
[08:59] <Solarion> kristian: ah.  I only have experience with the intel chip (on ubuntu anyway)
[08:59] <quickblaine> hi all, anyone know why rhythmbox suddenly quits as soon as I plug in my 2GB ipod nano?
[08:59] <yallaman> is there a way i can get osx like panel? with icons and systray?
[08:59] <stalefries> yallaman, carefully. :)
[08:59] <Guitarhero> how do I edit it, sorry Im new to ubuntu
[08:59] <vanberge> quickblaine: can you plug your ipod in first, then open rythmbox?
[08:59] <yallaman> ?
[08:59] <stalefries> yallaman, you mean the dock, or the top panel?
[08:59] <kristian> yes, but i have ubuntu too. i am so tired of not be able to make my grafhic card work, i think I soon will go to bed
[08:59] <jenda> can I "cd" to a remote dir?
[08:59] <monomaniacpa1> anyone... anyone at all?
[09:00] <quickblaine> vanberge: if i do that it quits automatically
[09:00] <yallaman> i guess its called dock
[09:00] <jenda> monomaniacpa1: can you describethe problem?
[09:00] <quickblaine> vanberge: as soon as it loads
[09:00] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, Just updated the pastebin entry with a cat of /etc/network/interfaces
[09:00] <stalefries> yallaman, you fancy one at the bottom with the magnifying icons?
[09:00] <stalefries> *the
[09:00] <Solarion> kristian: does it have to be installed manually, or is it a package?
[09:00] <stalefries> not you
[09:00] <vanberge> quickblaine: im not sure... i dont use rythmbox..  sorry  :-(
[09:00] <yallaman> sec, restarting xchat
[09:00] <duncanmhor> kristian, what's the trouble?
[09:00] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, Anything else I could add?
[09:01] <Solarion> "cards"
[09:01] <kristian> i can't install the driver to ati, and succeed.
[09:01] <monomaniacpa1> jenda: whenever I type in a dialogue box like a admin passwd for example, the program quits.
[09:01] <quickblaine> vanberge: can you suggest a good alternative, i use my ipod all the time so need a decent itunes replacement (just switched to linux)
[09:01] <duncanmhor> any error messages?
[09:01] <yallaman> sorry..didnt catch what you said..xchat was borked
[09:01] <funkmaster> how do i set the primary eth card via the command line?
[09:01] <Solarion> funkmaster: "primary"?
[09:01] <stalefries> yallaman, do you mean the fancy one at the bottom with the zooming icons?
[09:01] <yallaman> yup
[09:01] <funkmaster> got 2 cards
[09:01] <winman> Anjuta's installing now :)
[09:02] <Solarion> funkmaster: I got 3.  :)
[09:02] <funkmaster> want eth1 to be primary ione for internet
[09:02] <pyro> Cueball|LAptop - one moment - suffering from wetware bug at moment - away for a few mins
[09:02] <kristian> after this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" , x don't want to start..
[09:02] <vanberge> quickblaine: i use amarok for my media player, and gtkpod to sync my ipod
[09:02] <stalefries> yallaman, try looking up gdesklets and the starterbar. It's probably your best bet.
[09:02] <Solarion> funkmaster: see, now this is what I don't grok.  What do you mean by "primary"?
[09:02] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, Ok NP's.
[09:02] <quickblaine> vanberge: yeah, i was kinda hoping there would be something that does both..
[09:02] <funkmaster> well actually this other guy is asking, i know how to do it via gnome but command line?
[09:02] <kristian> so, when im now gona restart my pc, i have to write that code and do all the stuff again..
[09:02] <quickblaine> How do i upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[09:02] <Solarion> they can each connect to the same or different networks.
[09:02] <vanberge> quickblaine: amarok: banshee
[09:02] <stalefries> yallaman, try the howto's, tips and tricks section on ubuntuforums.org and search for os x
[09:02] <yallaman> k..thanks..btw is this cpu/ram hogging..those desklets?
[09:02] <vanberge> whao sorry
[09:02] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[09:02] <xophEr> If I want to compile a -dev version of an app does it have different sources or how do I do it?
[09:02] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:03] <Solarion> funkmaster: are you wanting to know how to set the default route?
[09:03] <vanberge> quickblaine: banshee does both, but it doesnt play very well for me for some reason
[09:03] <stalefries> yallaman, some say so
[09:03] <funkmaster> well ubuntu is usgin the wrong card to connect to the net i want it to use th eother one, there has to be a setting which one should be the default gateway
[09:03] <jenda> monomaniacpa1: that's probably not a keyboard problem - could you be more specific?
[09:03] <Anderson> lamego, http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html great resource for hard and soft links
[09:03] <suzanne> hey
[09:03] <Solarion> hmm
[09:03] <Solarion> funkmaster: I think you want to man route
[09:03] <stalefries> funkmaster, in System>Administration>Networking, look at the bottom and select you default device
[09:03] <quickblaine> vanberge: okay, thanks, shall go take a look at that now
[09:03] <monomaniacpa1> If I typed a message in this dialogue box the program would quit/disappear.
[09:04] <funkmaster> stalefires, yes i know but via the comman dline
[09:04] <monomaniacpa1> *I am using a PC atm*
[09:04] <stalefries> funkmaster: no idea there
[09:04] <suzanne> i dont like this program much
[09:04] <funkmaster> solarian: what stalefires suggested but via the commanline
[09:04] <GMullen> how do i get the command line for the top "task bar"?
[09:04] <Solarion> route del default; route del default; route add default gw [gateway]  dev [interface] 
[09:04] <Solarion> that would be my guess
[09:04] <GMullen> it's not in right mouse > add new
[09:05] <funkmaster> ok thxy
[09:05] <monomaniacpa1> it only started after I changed some settings under the Keyboard GUI. I have put them back (I hope) to no avail.
[09:05] <pyro> Cueball|Laptop: the result of a route -n would be nice
[09:05] <Solarion> or maybe you need to change the last one to "route add default gw [gateway] ; route add -host [gw]  dev [interface] 
[09:05] <wastrel> GMullen:  i think they replaced it with a new applet
[09:06] <Solarion> funkmaster: playing with the various interfaces' metric might also do what you want
[09:06] <stalefries> GMullen, try deskbar-applet
[09:06] <funkmaster> will try it, thx
[09:06] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16465
[09:06] <Solarion> funkmaster: np.  "man route" will be your friend.  :)
[09:06] <GMullen> ok this looks like it
[09:06] <wastrel> that's the one
[09:06] <kristian> duncanmhor, can u help? Are u good with gc?
[09:06] <GMullen> thx stalefries
[09:07] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, Want that again with a static IP set?
[09:07] <stalefries> GMullen: check out the other things it can do. Also, use alt+t to see output from a command line program
[09:07] <duncanmhor> well, I have a couple of ati cards that I configured ok, will help if I can
[09:07] <Anderson> http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html
[09:07] <stalefries> Gmullen, instead of enter, that is
[09:07] <pyro> Cuebal: yup - sice eth1 does not have an IP - so it can not communicate
[09:08] <GMullen> stalefries: what do you mean about alt+t
[09:08] <rdz> hi all. when i do 'glxgears', i get; "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".". what do i need to get 3d-acceleration?
[09:08] <kristian> duncanmhor, i don't really know what to do, because I have tried so much already.
[09:09] <duncanmhor> kristian, I know that feeling well
[09:09] <stalefries> GMullen, if you type something like 'cat /etc/fstab' and then pushed enter, it wouldn't show you any output. To see the ouput of that command, you need to use alt+t instead of enter
[09:09] <GMullen> oh ok
[09:09] <GMullen> got it
[09:09] <GMullen> thx
[09:09] <duncanmhor> kristian, is there a specific error or is it just not working?
[09:09] <GMullen> would sudo work?
[09:09] <MikkelRev> Are there any branch of printers with bad linux-support I should stay away of ?
[09:10] <stalefries> GMullen: no sudo, try gksudo instead
[09:10] <Kyral> MikkelRev: I don't know about things that DON'T work, but HPs work REALLY well
[09:10] <kristian> duncanmhor, it's not working
[09:10] <stalefries> MikkelRev, avoid Epson, IIRC
[09:10] <GMullen> oh that reminds me thk stalefries
[09:10] <MikkelRev> ok, thanks
[09:11] <Ramnath> Hey guys, how do I change which folder the command line is downloading to?
[09:11] <monomaniacpa1> jenda: any ideas
[09:11] <pyro> Cueball|Laptop: still no static IP on eth1 on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16465
[09:11] <stalefries> Ramnath, change the folder you are in
[09:11] <Ramnath> yeah but what is the command to change to home or something like that
[09:12] <duncanmhor> kristian, what do you get from fglrxinfo?
[09:12] <stalefries> Ramnath: try 'man cd' to get some help on that
[09:12] <kristian> duncanmhor,
[09:12] <jenda> monomaniacpa1: please be more specific: what program was it that quit - what did you have to do to make it quit - what do you mean by using a PC ATM?
[09:12] <kristian> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[09:12] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:12] <kristian> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[09:13] <SheaTara> is there a way to get the background for gnome to do a slideshow-like thing, so it changes pictures every minute or so?
[09:13] <monomaniacpa1> jenda: any program with a text entry box. Specifically gaim and when I try to enter the admin password for programs like synaptic.  I am using a PC AT THE MOMENT
[09:14] <monomaniacpa1> as soon as I touch a letter or number on my keyboard the program quits
[09:14] <pekay> heya, anyone willing to tell wtf a my gateway address could be? ^^
[09:14] <duncanmhor> kristian, have you replaced the 'ati' driver string in your xorg.conf with 'flgrx'? Of so, have you restarted x?
[09:14] <jenda> monomaniacpa1: oh ok... and what do you mean by PC - x86?
[09:14] <boricua> i want to trouble shoot a problem and want to delete/add a printer via localhost:631 but it is asking me for cups password how do i set one ????
[09:15] <kristian> duncanmhor, nope.. i will do it now.
[09:15] <jenda> monomaniacpa1: not sure... are there any places where the kbd works fine?
[09:15] <duncanmhor> kristian, fglrx, not flgrx
[09:15] <duncanmhor> typo
[09:16] <monomaniacpa1> firefox. But that now quits within five seconds for no apparent reason, without touching a key
[09:16] <kristian> duncanmhor, there was fglrx. That's probably because i configured it for 30 min ago .P
[09:16] <Frederick> folks why my eclipse can't findthe jvm?
[09:16] <tortho> I just made 3 new partitions, and installed a seconf copy of ubuntu on it.... now, when i boot, it lists only the last ubuntu version, and the windows at the startupp... how to restore the old ubuntu one..?
[09:16] <pyro> Cueball|Laptop: shall I send out the St Bernhards to look for you :-)
[09:17] <duncanmhor> kristian, have you restarted x since you installed the drivers?
[09:17] <daviscostel> hi all
[09:17] <pekay> is there anyway in linux to get me my gateway address?
[09:17] <kristian> duncanmhor, how do i restart x? restart pc?
[09:17] <stalefries> pekay, like its ip address
[09:17] <stalefries> ?
[09:17] <pekay> kristian: CTRL ALT Backspace
[09:17] <kristian> thx pekay
[09:17] <daviscostel> the make an make install commands  doesnt work ..any help?
[09:17] <duncanmhor> kristian, what pekay said :)
[09:18] <pekay> stalefries: yes
[09:18] <monomaniacpa1> OK problems worse than I thought - most programs won't open or when they do, they quit within a few seconds of opening.
[09:18] <duncanmhor> kristian, bear in min that that will kill aall of your gui apps that are running
[09:18] <monomaniacpa1> plus the homefile opens often making me suspect it was to do with kbd shortcuts
[09:18] <erez> i am trying to burn a DVD but i fails and i dont know why. i have dvd+rw-tools and i can burn CD's . here is gnomebakers output : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16466 . can anyone help me please?
[09:18] <ubuntu> hi all
[09:18] <kristian> duncanmhor, but if i do that, i have to write "sudo dkpg-reconfigure...." to make ubuntu start.
[09:18] <stalefries> pekay: I would try going to 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1, or 192.168.2.1 in your browser, and see if those give you anything
[09:19] <duncanmhor> huh?
[09:19] <SheaTara> *showstopper* how do I get gnome's desktop background to automatically change to another wallpaper every minute?
[09:19] <daviscostel> the make and makeinstall command doesnt work?what can i do?
[09:19] <duncanmhor> kristian, why do you have to do that?
[09:19] <pekay> stalefries: mmm, 192.168.1.1 takes me to the router settings, this is good yeah?
[09:19] <pyro> davicostel: what c proggy are you compiling and what errot msg do you get?
[09:19] <Ramnath> My command line is at kevin@kevin:~$, how do I change it to my home directory?
[09:19] <stalefries> SheaTara, search ubuntuforums.org
[09:19] <stalefries> pekay: that's what it should do
[09:19] <daviscostel> no such command
[09:19] <pekay> Ramnath: cd ~
[09:20] <kristian> i don't know.
[09:20] <pekay> ~ = directory
[09:20] <daviscostel> yes made that
[09:20] <daviscostel> and ./configure
[09:20] <Flannel> Ramnath: you're at your home directory lready.
[09:20] <gdb> Ramnath: The ~ indicates your home directory.
[09:20] <pekay> and what happens?
[09:20] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16467
[09:20] <duncanmhor> kristian, what happens when you do startx?
[09:20] <gdb> Ramnath: But I'm guessing you want it to give the full path of your home directory?
[09:20] <stalefries> pekay, that's confirming the ip of your router
[09:20] <daviscostel> mai i paste here?
[09:20] <Ramnath> yeah
[09:20] <kristian> maybe i don't need to if i don't write:  Screen "aticonfig-screen[0] " 0 0 and put it in the config. file
[09:21] <pekay> stalefries: so i assume thats the correct gateway lol
[09:21] <daviscostel> davis@davis-desktop:~$ cd /home/davis/verlihub-0.9.8c/
[09:21] <daviscostel> davis@davis-desktop:~/verlihub-0.9.8c$ CXX=g++-3.3 ./configure
[09:21] <daviscostel> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[09:21] <daviscostel> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[09:21] <daviscostel> checking for gawk... no
[09:21] <daviscostel> checking for mawk... mawk
[09:21] <pekay> here goes anyway
[09:21] <daviscostel> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[09:21] <daviscostel> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:21] <stalefries> pekay: I assume so
[09:21] <daviscostel> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:21] <daviscostel> davis@davis-desktop:~/verlihub-0.9.8c$ make
[09:21] <daviscostel> bash: make: command not found
[09:21] <daviscostel> davis@davis-desktop:~/verlihub-0.9.8c$
[09:21] <pekay> dude use pastebin
[09:21] <Flannel> daviscostel: don't paste in here.
[09:21] <Flannel> !b-e
[09:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[09:21] <daviscostel> thanks
[09:22] <daviscostel> sorry about that paste
[09:22] <pekay> :)
[09:22] <gdb> Ramnath: Then you may want to change your PS1 variable from the default of ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ to ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\${PWD}$
[09:22] <gdb> (read: replace the \w with ${PWD}
[09:22] <pekay> stalefries: nah, just got no internet :S
[09:22] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, Weird huh? Notice how no data has been sent over eth1
[09:23] <kristian> dunchanmor, i'll try to restart now
[09:23] <kristian> duncanmor, i'll try to restart now
[09:23] <duncanmhor> kristian, okidoki
[09:23] <stalefries> pekay: then how are you on here?
[09:23] <kristian> brb
[09:23] <pekay> stalefries: changed it back to DHCP quickly lol
[09:24] <erez> hello, I am trying to burn a DVD but it fails and i dont know why. i have dvd+rw-tools and i can burn CD's . here is gnomebaker output : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16466 . can anyone help me please?
[09:24] <pyro> Cueball: and the address you are trying to ping is?
[09:24] <gdb> Ramnath: For your purposes, run this command: PS1='\u@\h:${PWD}\$ ' and see if that's what you're looking for.
[09:25] <Ramnath> thanks
[09:25] <Ramnath> that works
[09:25] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, Tried pinging the gateway which is 10.11.0.1 and also a client on the network 10.11.0.249
[09:25] <Ries> hey all, I sthere a minimal install CD for ubuntu to load everything from the net?
[09:26] <masterofallarts> hi, I wonder what is this rhythmic harddisk activity every 5 seconds. Can't it just remain quiet?
[09:26] <boricua> !cups
[09:26] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:26] <Flannel> Ries: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation gives you a bunch of different methods
[09:26] <Ries> Flannel: thanks
[09:26] <masterofallarts> Does somebody know what I mean?
[09:27] <monomaniacpa1> jenda: I now have firefox open without it quitting, by changing keyboard to generic. No other programs will open/remain open, however.
[09:27] <tortho> help needed with installation wich doesn't show up in grub..
[09:28] <tortho> 7join #grub
[09:28] <gatekeeper> thanx ubotu print sharing will come in handy :-)
[09:28] <pyro> Cuball|Laptop why is your encryption key off - have you no wep key on your AP?
[09:28] <Ng> masterofallarts: it's probably something like slocate or beagled looking over your filesystem
[09:29] <jenda> monomaniacpa1: no idea, sorry. maybe a key is stuck.
[09:29] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, Nope. Wireless it totally unsecured.
[09:29] <masterofallarts> slocate maybe, i used that once
[09:29] <Cueball|Laptop_> Not even any mac filtering on it.
[09:29] <masterofallarts> can I take it out somehow?
[09:30] <monomaniacpa1> jenda: thats what I would have guessed but the laptops built in kbd doesn't work either.
[09:31] <Ng> masterofallarts: check if "updatedb" is running (ps auwx | grep updatedb), if not then it's not that
[09:31] <gdb> masterofallarts: That's the the buffer cache being flushed, old processes being swapped, the filesystem journal being synced, and so on.  It's normal system activity that's keeping your machine running smoothly.
[09:31] <daviscostel> what channels can i join on freenode server?
[09:32] <gdb> Ng: It's not any scheduled process, it's the kernel.  He's talking about the hard disk activitiy that lasts for a fraction of a second every few seconds.
[09:32] <pyro> Cueball-you know, I really can't see much apart from the fact that your link quality is really crappy - are you a long way away from your AP?
[09:33] <masterofallarts> gdb: true. Is there some possibility to lengthen the intervals between actions?
[09:33] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, In the basement. Always been down here with a stable link tho. I did however go upstairs to the ap and still same result's
[09:33] <Ng> gdb: I agree that's a possibility, but he'd need to be loading his system quite a bit to be noticing it, or he has a very noisy hard disk ;)
[09:33] <nickwebcouk> hey folks
[09:34] <nickwebcouk> sorry to hassell everyone on here, but I got some NDS problems (i think) with my buntu install..
[09:34] <nickwebcouk> even jus trying to get irc working was a nightmare.. :O
[09:34] <Usunny> you might as well just tell us what the problem is
[09:34] <yallaman> is it wise to compile a kernel for your system to get better performane and get rid of unused services and such..or is there a easier and safer approach?
[09:34] <nickwebcouk> inshort, it dosent look astho ubuntu is changing hostname.com into the correct ip address..
[09:34] <masterofallarts> Ng: I just have Opera running in fluxbox. Thats all. My hd is not so noisy, but i am working on the laptop all day.
[09:35] <gdb> masterofallarts: Well, I'm guessing there are some components of that activity that can be increased in interval such as the buffer sync's 'commit interval', the same for the filesystem journal, but I'd really have to dig to figure it out. lol  And I don't think you'd be happy with the results anyway.  If you increase the filesystem journal update interval, you risk some pretty horrendous data loss if you lose power.  The buffer sync interval is terrilby un
[09:35] <nickwebcouk> i.e trying to connect to irc.freenode.net, i noticed the message : Connecting to irc.freenode.net (1.0.0.0) port 6667...
[09:35] <gdb> important and probably not causing much of that activity.
[09:35] <gdb> er unimportant
[09:35] <nickwebcouk> so i had to change that to the ip address to connect here
[09:36] <ardchoille> Slurpee break!
[09:36] <gdb> masterofallarts: Ah, and you're wanting to decrease the amount of hard disk activity to conserve battery power.
[09:36] <Seveas> nickwebcouk, your dns is fcked
[09:36] <nickwebcouk> im running thru a router, but thats running fine (currently has an xp box hooked thru it)
[09:36] <Seveas> nickrud, probably a dsl router with bad settings
[09:37] <nickwebcouk> thats what i was thinking, but cause xp's fine its puggled me
[09:37] <masterofallarts> gdb: indeed, but the noise thing is the main factor with me.
[09:37] <pyro> Cueball: then sorry - I cant see a lot with your settings - other than the fact that you set a class C mask and a class A broadcast address
[09:37] <Ries> other q, (I am new to ubuntu) can I upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0?? I do have a 5.1 CD, downloading 660MB from here takes a looong time... i only need a command shell, apache and some other small stuff
[09:37] <gdb> masterofallarts: I think you most likely want to look into spinning down the disks when they're not used by users and applications for some predetermined length of time then.  How to do that on a laptop I'm not sure, but I know it's possible to have the kernel spin down the disks and not perform that activity as long as a user or application is not actively accessing the disks.
[09:37] <nickwebcouk> what i did notice tho was that the DHCP client list listed my domain name as "unknown" when its set to bedroom (dont ask. lol)
[09:37] <nickwebcouk> so i gave ubuntu a fixed ip, and now its sorta running
[09:37] <masterofallarts> gdb: That sounds great!
[09:38] <nickwebcouk> (but now i think its using 2 ip's, the DHCP and the fixed ip)..
[09:38] <masterofallarts> Hm. I'll see whether I can learn some kernel language.
[09:38] <rdz> hi all. i had some troubles with the fglxrx-driver (xv was not working -> crashes). so i tried to switch back to the free drivers. but now i don't have 3d acceleration at all. when i do 'glxgears', i get: 'Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."'. the people from #xorg told me. that i need the dri-module, but i don't know how to install it in ubuntu. *any* hints are appreciated.
[09:38] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, Yeah my mistake with the class C broadcast. Typed it in quick without thinking.
[09:39] <fishsticks> do you know why rhythmbos would suddenly _stop_seeing my ipod?
[09:39] <fishsticks> rhythmbox
[09:39] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, use the ATI proprietary driver.
[09:39] <scott> hey, anyone suggest a program to mount/convert a .ccd or .img file?
[09:39] <gdb> masterofallarts: Some information on changing the buffer sync commit interval is here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Battery-Powered/methods.html
[09:40] <gdb> Ok, so it's not much information. :-/
[09:40] <Patrick__> is it possible to make Gnome pre-load all the desktop icons, visuals and everything into memory before the desktop appears? as windows does.
[09:40] <Cueball|Laptop_> pyro, I'm baffled as to why it's stopped working. :( Only thing I can think of is IRDA as that's the only thing I've added. Will remove that and see if it makes a difference.
[09:40] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, no, because when i use it, xv-output doesn't work at all. as soon as i start a programm using xv, my x crashes  (with an 'srtistic' screen)
[09:40] <rcanr> hi all penquens
[09:40] <nickwebcouk> got ne suggestions? :S
[09:40] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, learn how to set your driver up correctly.
[09:40] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, is there a way to use free drivers?
[09:40] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, sure. RTFM.
[09:40] <masterofallarts> *reading*
[09:40] <MrGreen> need acerhk ... will I have to build it myslef
[09:41] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, wich manual? a hint is really appreciated
[09:41] <Patrick__> is it possible to make Gnome pre-load all the desktop icons, visuals and everything into memory before the desktop appears? as windows does.
[09:41] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, probably the one on their website - I havent looked at it in at least 4 years. Im surprised the project is still up.
[09:42] <benoy> does anyone know of any good IDE that I can use to program in java, c, c++ and pearl?
[09:42] <gdb> Patrick__: No, because the icons, visuals, and everything, are provided by separate processes running under the gnome-session process.  It's not a monolithic subsystem like Windows' GDU+USER interface.
[09:42] <gdb> re GDI+USER
[09:42] <Ries> benoy: eclipse
[09:43] <FifaFrazer> Is there a good flash editor for linux?
[09:43] <benoy> isn't that mainly for java, and doesn't that take up too much resources?
[09:43] <Patrick__> gdb what should I do then? theres always a delay when I first try to open up something, like the gnome menu for instance, it takes a quarter second
[09:43] <Acid-Kilz> Ahhhh!
[09:43] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, am i right in thinking, that when you fresshly install ubuntu, there are some free drivers installed for 3dacceleartion? iirc, i installed the fglrx driver myself.... so it should not be that hard to switch back, should it?
[09:44] <gdb> Patrick__: There should be no delay after you've opened the menu the first time.  Is there?
[09:44] <BIAF> hi, does perl5 come default with ubuntu desktop?
[09:44] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, which ati card is this?
[09:44] <Patrick__> gbd, nope. but I find it quite irritating....
[09:44] <gdb> BIAF: Yes, it does.
[09:44] <gdb> BIAF: This is perl, v5.8.7
[09:44] <Patrick__> gbd, I don't see why they can't pre-load it into memory...
[09:45] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, ati radeon mobility 9600
[09:45] <BIAF> cool, what folder does the files site in by default
[09:45] <BIAF> site=sit
[09:45] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, if you want DRI use the proprietary module and set your xorg up correctly this time. Otherwise youre going to be groping around blindly in a futile attempt to shortcut what you SHOULD be doing in the first place
[09:45] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, i tried fglrx because of xgl, but then i had troube with xv, that is why i like to switch back
[09:46] <pyro> Cueball: have you tried rmmod ing the ir module and reloading the module for your wlan card?
[09:46] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, id be surprised to see you get acceleration in both the xgl environment and the apps that run on it.
[09:47] <siriusnova> sup
[09:47] <ubuntu> not much
[09:47] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, i don't want to use xgl anymore, i just want to have a working xv and 3d-accel, do you think that is possible?
[09:48] <scott> xgl is uber
[09:48] <theoverload> hi all can speak german
[09:48] <quickblaine> vanberge: hey again, installed banshee.... it quits as soon as i plug in my ipod and wont load if its already mounted
[09:48] <scott> hey, anyone suggest a program to mount/convert a .ccd or .img file?
[09:48] <Flannel> !de
[09:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:48] <runes> based on the directory structure of Debian-Ubuntu..where would be the most secure-best directory to store config files for web based apps outside of the /var/www directory?
[09:48] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, or in other words: i wnat to switch back to the state of a freshly installed system. (where xv did work, if i remember right)
[09:48] <quickblaine> Anybody know why both rhythmbox and banshee both quit as soon as i plug my ipod in, and won't load if it already is?
[09:48] <palermi> hi, anyone can install the gmaifs ?
[09:49] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, if you want to use DRI you will need to use the ATI proprietary driver. You will be able to get XV to work if you set it up properly.
[09:49] <theoverload> hallo kann mir jemand helfen
[09:49] <vars> hey i need help   how do i cange my ip address with cli?
[09:49] <quickblaine> Anybody know why both rhythmbox and banshee both quit as soon as i plug my ipod in, and won't load if it already is?
[09:50] <pekay> there a way to scan for usb devices?
[09:50] <SeanTater> vars: read man ifconfig
[09:50] <Awesome-o2000> pekay, lsusb
[09:50] <erUSUL> pekay: lsusb
[09:50] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, ok. thanks for that info. where is a good point to start?
[09:50] <quickblaine> Anybody know why both rhythmbox and banshee both quit as soon as i plug my ipod in, and won't load if it already is?
[09:50] <pekay> tried that, for some reason i cant get my usb stick anymore
[09:50] <pekay> :/
[09:50] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, google is a good place to start.
[09:50] <witless> how can i find out what the heck is holding onto my audio card?
[09:51] <quickblaine> Anybody know why both rhythmbox and banshee both quit as soon as i plug my ipod in, and won't load if it already is?
[09:51] <palermi> quickblaine, in the ipod you have wmv files?
[09:51] <runes> witless are you using Skype by any chance??
[09:51] <theoverload> kann mir bitte jemand helfen
[09:51] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, let me ask differently: how can i find out, why xv is not working here?
[09:51] <Kibou> !de
[09:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:51] <quickblaine> palermi: i can't see how, itunes converts them (i came from windows/itunes)
[09:51] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, it is not working because you did not set up the ATI driver properly.
[09:52] <Patrick__> gbd, I don't see why they can't pre-load it into memory...
[09:52] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, xorg.conf.
[09:52] <fishsticks> is there a .deb for the new rhythmbox anywhere?
[09:52] <witless> runes: no
[09:52] <runes> witless any other multimedia apps runing evan a web based audio plugin?
[09:52] <palermi> umm, i have this problem, when i have this f*cking wmv in the ipod
[09:52] <sparcd> guys, managed to get my raid working just fine using the dmraid package
[09:52] <gridblock> Iam getting this error when iam trying to mount my dvd
[09:53] <sparcd> installed it before running the installation program
[09:53] <Cueball|Laptop> Hey pyro, I removed irda-utils and I'm now back on wireless. Not sure if it was definatly the prob but will find out on my next reboot.
[09:53] <quickblaine> palermi: well i dont thing ive got any on there, i never use wmvs
[09:53] <witless> runes: nope
[09:53] <gridblock> failed to start command: Unexpected error in waitpid() (no child prossess)
[09:53] <Kibou> Patrick__: file a bug report and see what they say about it
[09:53] <runes> witless onboard audio card or add in audio card?
[09:53] <epimetrias> hey, anyone here using ubuntu on a mac G5?
[09:53] <pekay> omg, like my USB doesnt work anymore on Linux >.>
[09:54] <aLPHa_LeaK> epimetrias: why?
[09:54] <Patrick__> kibou, ok
[09:54] <Patrick__> kibou, how would I go about doing that?
[09:54] <witless> runes: onboard
[09:54] <Cueball|Laptop> epimetrias, I wish I were.
[09:54] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, sorry to be a pain in this, but i heard so many different reasons, why xv is not wokring here. it is sure that when the screen gets completely screwed up when i start an xv-appm that it is aproblem with xorg,conf?
[09:54] <epimetrias> alpha_leak: well, i'm thinking about installing it on my G5, but the CD wasn't able to handle dual monitors
[09:54] <runes> witless only one audio card no addins aside from onboard?
[09:54] <witless> runes: right
[09:54] <epimetrias> alpha_leak: so i was wondering if anyone else had gotten that to work
[09:54] <quickblaine> Can anyone help? both rhythmbox and banshee quit as soon as i plug in my ipod nano, and wont load if its already in there
[09:55] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, this is the last time I am going to tell you. you did not set your xorg.conf up correctly.
[09:55] <runes> witless what about a VOIP add in (usb or ethernet ip phone?)
[09:55] <aLPHa_LeaK> epimetrias: ah.
[09:55] <witless> runes: nothing like that
[09:55] <Frederick> anyone here using eclipse? I can't set my jvm to work
[09:55] <runes> witless what version of ubuntu?
[09:55] <pekay> anyone help me in getting Ubuntu to work with my usb stick??
[09:55] <Anderson> What's the command to show running processes?
[09:55] <witless> runes: dapper
[09:55] <Ries> can U upgrade from 5.1 to 6.0 ?
[09:55] <palermi> quickblaine: if your ipod work fine with ubuntu and not work with banshee,rithmbox, your problem maybe with codecs (audio/video)
[09:55] <Kyral> !pastebin
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:56] <Anderson> !about upgrade
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about about upgrade
[09:56] <runes> witless was the sound initialized with the live cd and after install did it function?
[09:56] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, thanks. it is so hard to get reliable info about this topic...
[09:56] <Anderson> !about upgrading
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about about upgrading
[09:56] <witless> runes: arggggh...... forget it
[09:56] <quickblaine> Can anyone help? both rhythmbox and banshee quit as soon as i plug in my ipod nano, and wont load if its already in there
[09:56] <Anderson> What's the command to show running processes?
[09:56] <Awesome-o2000> rdz, no, it isnt.
[09:56] <Ries> !about upgrade
[09:56] <witless> runes: don't ask, too embarrassing  :-)
[09:56] <palermi> palermi: quickblaine: if your ipod work fine with ubuntu and not work with banshee,rithmbox, your problem maybe with codecs (audio/video)
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about about upgrade
[09:56] <pekay> Anderson: top
[09:56] <vars> SeanTater, do you know how to copy something from a windows machine to a ubuntu machine via a crossover cable
[09:56] <runes> witless step by step all goo :-)
[09:56] <runes> good that is
[09:56] <Anderson> !about update
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about about update
[09:56] <Anderson> !about updates
[09:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about about updates
[09:56] <pekay> !upgrade
[09:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:56] <pekay> ...
[09:56] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, i'll tell you, it is, when you aren't a geek
[09:57] <witless> runes: i have wireless headphones - must have had a power outage while i was sleeping because the transmitter was turned off
[09:57] <Anderson> that's it!
[09:57] <palermi> anyone how install gmailfs ?
[09:57] <quickblaine> palermi: in what way? what do i need to do to fix this?
[09:57] <Anderson> !upgrade
[09:57] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:57] <runes> witless hilarious but good troubleshooting :-)
[09:57] <quickblaine> palermi: which codecs is it likely to not like
[09:57] <daviscostel> vars: use valknut and dc++
[09:58] <Wibble-> Help! I've lost my Desktop! All the files are still under ~/Desktop, but don't show on the desktop, and I can't right mouse click to create new items or copy them to the desktop or drag to select on the desktop... Can anyone help?
[09:58] <quickblaine> Can anyone help? both rhythmbox and banshee quit as soon as i plug in my ipod nano, and wont load if its already in there
[09:59] <aujordanh> how do i access the repositories from windows and download the debs to put on an offline ubuntu box?
[09:59] <daviscostel> how can i foun out what g++ version i'm using?
[09:59] <Wibble-> daviscostel,  g++ --version
[09:59] <daviscostel> yes
[09:59] <daviscostel> how i find out what it is
[09:59] <Wibble-> daviscostel, just type that in a terminal.
[10:00] <Wibble-> aujordanh, you can download the packages using a web browser - but thats quite painful and slow!
[10:00] <palermi> quickblaine: try with amarok
[10:00] <aujordanh> Wibble-: i dont have much choice
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone know why they would not have a firewall as part of a new install.  I know the kernel takes care of almost everything and a router can take care of the rest... Just curious
[10:00] <Wibble-> aujordanh, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:00] <daviscostel> g++ --version
[10:00] <daviscostel> bash: g++: command not found
[10:01] <Wibble-> daviscostel, then you do not have it installed
[10:01] <Hexidigital> Jack_Sparrow:: ports aren't opened unless a process that listens on a port is started
[10:01] <aujordanh> Wibble-: thanks my dialup modem is not compatible with linux
[10:01] <daviscostel> it sais an newer version is installed
[10:01] <Cueball|Laptop> pyro, I removed irda-utils and my wireless worked again. I added irda-utils back and it's still working. Now that's baffling.
[10:01] <Lobster> gn8
[10:01] <Wibble-> aujordanh, have you looked at the linmodem stuff? I've yet to come across a modem which couldn't be persuaded to work in Linux
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Wibble, I can send you a dozen that wont work in Linux
[10:02] <Wibble-> daviscostel, what is "it"?
[10:02] <Solarion> what is the diff between wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community?
[10:02] <daviscostel> can u give me another g++ link?
[10:02] <daviscostel> i have this sudo apt-get install build-essential mysql-server libmysqlclient10-dev libpcre3-dev geoip-bin libgeoip-dev g++-3.3
[10:02] <pekay> !usb
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[10:02] <Wibble-> Jack_Sparrow, I'm not sure what I'd do with a dozen dialup modems... so I'll just believe you!
[10:02] <pekay> ,,
[10:02] <Hexidigital> Jack_Sparrow:: do you need a firewall? from what i hear, firestarter is a good one
[10:02] <Flannel> Solarion: help.ubuntu is the new wiki.  Really just a change in url.  most wiki pages redirect you to their new counterparts
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np..
[10:02] <pekay> anyone know about usb sticks on linux?
[10:02] <pekay> ffs
[10:02] <daviscostel> its expired
[10:03] <aujordanh> Wibble-: yeah all over maybe you can help then, it is a zoom 3090 usb
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I already installed fs
[10:03] <Ng> pekay: they should Just Work. what's up?
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks, I was just curious
[10:03] <Hexidigital> np
[10:03] <funkmaster> how do i find out the path to my ffmpeg build?
[10:03] <Wibble-> aujordanh, a usb dialup modem? Wow.  Thats quite impressive.  But no, I can't help really! sorry
[10:03] <pekay> Ng: they used to work... but only if i rebooted, not it dont work at all
[10:03] <Solarion> Flannel: I'm trying to link to a page I created, and it's wanting to use help.ubuntu not wiki, and for some reason the page seems to be at one and not the other
[10:03] <d00by> tell d00by about rpm
[10:03] <d00by> dam
[10:04] <d00by> how do i install a .rpm file
[10:04] <Hexidigital> !rpm > d00by
[10:04] <Ng> pekay: run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in a terminal before you plug one in - then paste what scrolls up into a pastebin
[10:04] <Hexidigital> d00by:: rpm installs in Ubuntu are not recommended, nor supported
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> d00by:  Good Luck
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> d00by: what program are you trying to install?\
[10:05] <gnomefreak> !alien > d00by
[10:05] <Cueball|Laptop> !wireless
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <gnomefreak> d00by: alien is in your pm
[10:05] <Solarion> !monkeys
[10:05] <homerh> really silly question but it and amd64 disk also for intel 64bit processors as well as live cd keeps crashing
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about monkeys
[10:05] <Solarion> heh
[10:05] <Solarion> fun with bots
[10:05] <d00by> Jack_Sparrow, I am trying to install the thing for gambas that makes it all in one window instead of in like 7
[10:05] <runes> Does Ubuntu 6.06 follow the same Linux directory structure as its' Debian counterpart?
[10:05] <b166er> !linux
[10:05] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[10:06] <b166er> ;)
[10:06] <Solarion> !ubotu
[10:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> d00by: makes it all... makes WHAT all
[10:06] <eegore> 1brain?
[10:06] <eegore> !brain?
[10:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about brain?
[10:06] <pekay> Ng: http://pastebin.ca/71456
[10:07] <b166er> !403
[10:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about 403
[10:07] <eegore> !brain
[10:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:07] <b166er> dang, cause its what i get on your site
[10:07] <Trae> is alacarte a gnome thing or an Ubuntu invention?
[10:07] <d00by> Jack_Sparrow, in Gambas, (an IDE), the application has several different windows. There is another program called fakebas that combines all those windows into one window so it is more like MS Visual Basic
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Trae: its a 3rd party app that is intergrated into gnome
[10:07] <Ng> pekay: the kernel is saying it doesn't recognise the filesystem on that "disk"
[10:07] <d00by> jack_sparrow, fakebas comes in an rpm
[10:08] <kallei> How should i disconnect my ipod nano? i have seen so many threads at forums with umount /media/ipod  and gksu eject /media/ipod  etc  but no definite answer?  (im using amarok)
[10:08] <pekay> Ng: it used to work fine :/
[10:08] <kallei> and i dont want to use gtkpod
[10:08] <pekay> Ng: Jun 25 21:08:24 localhost kernel: [17180595.948000]  usb 5-8: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 54
[10:08] <pekay> a new device :p
[10:08] <Trae> gnomefreak, there are times, when I try and browse to change an icon...
[10:08] <Ng> pekay: have you reformatted it recently?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> d00by:  did you search the reps for it?
[10:08] <pekay> nop
[10:08] <ddonky> kallei - right-click the icon on the sektop, and pull down to 'eject'
[10:08] <d00by> i will do
[10:08] <pekay> this happened on Mandriva too
[10:09] <pekay> Kubuntu
[10:09] <s10case> does anyone know what configuration handles the loading of sound modules?
[10:09] <Trae> gnomefreak, and I KNOW there are icons there... (I can see them in nautilus)  however, the filed just shows up empty.
[10:09] <Ng> pekay: when you have finished using the stick, do you just pull it out? or "eject" it first?
[10:09] <Trae> gnomefreak, trying to change the icons for things in the alacarte tool.
[10:09] <hou5ton> how do i look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[10:09] <pekay> Ng: eeer, i must have pulled it out :/
[10:09] <Ng> hou5ton: more /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:09] <pekay> not sure exactly
[10:09] <kallei> i dont have the ipod on the desktop?
[10:10] <Ng> pekay: yeah, you really really don't want to do that - you've probably corrupted the filesystem on it. instead you should right click on its icon on the desktop and choose "eject"
[10:10] <gnomefreak> Trae: system>prefferences>themes>icons  they will change your menu icons
[10:10] <Hexidigital> Ng, pekay :: when i just pull out my flash drive, i can remount no problem (although sometimes, the files don't sync correctly)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> other than that dont know what to tell you to do
[10:10] <Trae> gnomefreak, ummm, it doesn't pick up the Tango icon
[10:10] <Trae> gnomefreak, not for firefox
[10:10] <Trae> gnomefreak, it uses the old dorky dark globe one
[10:10] <Ng> Hexidigital: maybe you're lucky, if it's in the middle of updating the filesystem itself, not a file, it can easily be toasted.
[10:10] <Trae> heh
[10:10] <kallei> ddonky: I don't have the ipod on the desktop?
[10:11] <jonah1980> hi i just wondered if i will see any improvements from installing 64bit ubuntu dapper instead of 32? what advantages does 64 have and will i see any difference?
[10:11] <Hexidigital> Ng:: ah... i just thought it was hotswappable :/ guess i'll stop doing that
[10:11] <fishsticks> if you do a server install, and then install kubuntu-desktop, that gives you the equivalent of a kubuntu install, right?
[10:11] <Trae> gnomefreak, besides, that doesn't address a problem.
[10:11] <Trae> gnomefreak, got a moment for me to walk you through this?  I want to see if you can confirm
[10:11] <Trae> gnomefreak, shouldn't take long
[10:11] <Ng> Hexidigital: it can be, in that they can be mounted with the "sync" option, but on larger USB devices (e.g. usb hard disks) that destroys performance.
[10:11] <gnomefreak> no Trae im on my way out the door just got called for a job
[10:12] <Trae> gnomefreak, ahhh no worries bud.
[10:12] <Trae> gnomefreak, thanks
[10:12] <Hexidigital> Ng:: i see.. thanks for the info
[10:12] <runes> is there an official "Ubuntu 6.06 linux file hierarchy" wiki page?
[10:12] <Trae> oooh, he's only been idle for 1:42!
[10:12] <pekay> Ng: aff, but, when I was on Mandriva, this happened, i formatted in Windows to FAT again, same problems..
[10:12] <yuheng108> what do I need to do in order to listen to the mv on this website?http://www.mtv.com/music/
[10:13] <Ng> pekay: hmm. perhaps see if windows can read it now?
[10:13] <Trae> crimsun, you mind trying something to confirm it for me please?
[10:13] <eegore> is that highvoltage rock and roll?
[10:13] <pekay> Ng: mmm alright
[10:13] <LeaChim> can anyone help me with getting ubuntu to see my motorola v235? i just want to see it's filesystem and get my photos off it
[10:13] <BIAF> Im installing Webmin and its telling me : Before downloading Webmin, you must already have Perl5 installed on your system. Perl is usually installed as /usr/local/bin/perl or /usr/bin/perl, and comes as part of most recent versions of Linux. - does ubuntu desktop defo got perl5 installed by default? before i install this webmin
[10:14] <hou5ton> Ng: ok ... may have a clue here ... but not sure what to do with it
[10:14] <hou5ton> by the way ... i've done all the stuff I got at that link someone sent ... that i could do, anyway
[10:14] <s10case> so does anyone know which file controls the loading of sound related modules? I know there is a directory called /etc/modprobe.d with config files in it, but which one loads...souncore for instance
[10:15] <hou5ton> Ng: (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name)
[10:15] <hou5ton> but it's in xorg.conf
[10:16] <crimsun> Trae: not in a position to do so atm, sorry
[10:16] <Trae> crimsun, no problem bud, I understand.
[10:16] <joaquin> Hola
[10:17] <yuheng108> what do I need to do in order to listen to the mv on this website?http://www.mtv.com/music/
[10:17] <hou5ton> I tried the 855 and 915resolution, but it said was only meant for intel graphic cards
[10:17] <hou5ton> but it gives modes
[10:17] <Munchkinguy> When running vrms, I get a list of "Non-free packages with status other than installed on ubuntu". Why are they listed if they are not there?
[10:18] <Ng> Munchkinguy: perhaps because vrms is a pretty crackful program ;)
[10:18] <Ng> hou5ton: are you using the vesa driver? :o
[10:19] <konfuzed> hey there ive got dapper installed but Flash does not seem to work
[10:19] <Munchkinguy> Ng: No, really, what does it mean?
[10:19] <hou5ton> Ng: I think I've tried it both ways ... but not sure which one it's on now.....
[10:19] <hou5ton> Ng: it will tell me in xorg.conf, won't it?
[10:19] <konfuzed> I used easyubuntu to install flash and have rebooted but the browser still says I need to "Get Flash"
[10:19] <Ng> Munchkinguy: I have no idea, I've never even heard of it, but given that vrms seems to stand for "virtual richard m stallman" I generally wouldn't pay much attention to it ;)
[10:19] <yallaman> hm..im trying to download some themes from gnome-look.org ...is it metacity themes i need for gnome?
[10:20] <Ng> hou5ton: should do, yeah. what kind of graphics card do you have?
[10:20] <sakura> hola!!!
[10:20] <Seveas> !es
[10:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:20] <hou5ton> ati Mobility Radeon 9700
[10:20] <hou5ton> worked sweet with Breezy
[10:20] <wweasel> Hey guys. Using greasemonkey, I am told to locate a text editor. Where do I find the gedit file?
[10:20] <konfuzed> I clicked on the get flash link and it went to macromedia download for linux and I donwloaded it and ran the script which added something to ~/.mozilla but closing and restarting the browser still says "Get Flash"
[10:22] <hou5ton> Ng: yes ...it is currently on vesa driver
[10:22] <Munchkinguy> I uninstalled the packages that vrms calls "non-free", but vrms reports them under "Non-free packages with status other than installed on ubuntu" instead. It then tells me that I have "3 non-free packages, 0.2% of 1211 installed packages." What gives?
[10:22] <Ng> hou5ton: ok, have you tried the ati drivers? vesa is pretty slow and limited
[10:23] <LjL> Munchkinguy: are those packages just the linux-restricted-modules?
[10:23] <Ng> Munchkinguy: run "dpkg -l foo" (where foo is a package name) for each of those packages and the first two characters will tell you the status
[10:23] <wweasel> Guys....where do I find the gedit file, so Greasemonkey can edit scripts
[10:23] <Ng> Munchkinguy: it could be that they just have residual config files
[10:23] <hou5ton> Ng:  ok ... you want me to go through that dpkg-reconfigure thing again and try messing with the ati drivers?
[10:23] <Ng> quite why anyone would want a virtual rms is beyond me, but there we go ;)
[10:23] <Ng> hou5ton: have you tried it before on dapper?
[10:23] <hou5ton> yes .... once ...
[10:23] <konfuzed> any pointers on making Flash work after flash was installed twice
[10:24] <rdz> Awesome-o2000, thank you so much for your patience. finally i got it working.....
[10:24] <vanberge> anybody in here ever tried the wallpaper switcher program? (wallpaper-tray) ?
[10:24] <Munchkinguy> Ng: Thank you.
[10:24] <Ng> hou5ton: I'm afraid I'm not especially familiar with the ati drivers - perhaps there is someone else about who knows about mobile radeons
[10:25] <PMantis> When booting up my Ubuntu server, it auto recognizes and modprobe's the modules for the Digium cards. Can I prevent this from happening?
[10:25] <hou5ton> I'll try it again
[10:25] <vanberge> PMantis: check /etc/modules file - see if that module is in there.  if it is, comment it out  :-)
[10:26] <dr_willis> and theres a modules blacklist file somewhere - that keeps modules from getting autoloaded
[10:26] <PMantis> vanberge, Nope, only lp & psmouse
[10:26] <wweasel> Does anyone know where to find the gedit file that Greasemonkey wants to run a text editor?
[10:26] <Hexidigital> anyone know if there's a cli version of Gaim?
[10:26] <vanberge> hou5ton: did you already try EasyUbuntu?
[10:26] <Wibble-> Hexidigital, centericq
[10:26] <wweasel> basically, when I run gedit, what file is it running?
[10:26] <PMantis> vanberge, a would be fine if it would load them in the same order each time. heh
[10:26] <vanberge> PMantis: ok.. sorry.  that was my one idea.   :-)
[10:26] <Hexidigital> thanks Wibble-
[10:27] <hou5ton> vanberge:  no ... don't know what it is
[10:27] <Wibble-> Hexidigital, not gaim, but still a CLI multi-client IM thingy
[10:27] <dr_willis> wweasel,  try 'which gedit'
[10:27] <vanberge> hou5ton: did you just install ubuntu?
[10:27] <hou5ton> yes
[10:27] <PMantis> vanberge, NP.. one of the first places I looked. I heard it was hot(cold?)plug doing it.
[10:27] <Hexidigital> Wibble-:: it'll do what i need, most likely...
[10:27] <wweasel> dr_willis: thx
[10:29] <vanberge> hou5ton: go to www.ubuntuguide.org, then there should be a link that says EasyUbuntu.  download and run that as described.  That is a very easy script taht will automatically set up nvidia/ati drivers
[10:29] <LeaChim> can anyone help me with getting ubuntu to see my motorola v235? i just want to see it's filesystem and get my photos off it
[10:29] <hou5ton> vanberge:  is it a re-install ... or something I can use to work with this one?
[10:30] <hareem> hi folks. Can some one please tell me how can i install QT 3.x
[10:30] <vanberge> hou5ton: it is a small program that will configure your ubuntu installation (media codecs, dvd palyback, correct video drivers, etc. )
[10:30] <vanberge> hou5ton: its a very cool little program.  you just check the boxes you want (i.e. media codecs, video drivers, and hit apply
[10:30] <hareem> can some one please tell me how can i install QT 3.x
[10:30] <hou5ton> vanberge:  cool ... that's what I'm looking for
[10:30] <daviscostel> some help pls
[10:30] <daviscostel> configure: error: "install mysql-devel or somewhere it's called mysql-dev"
[10:31] <daviscostel> what canni do?
[10:31] <hareem> i need help installing QT 3.x Some one plz help
[10:31] <vanberge> daviscostel: "sudo apt-get install mysql-dev"  from command line
[10:31] <chromate> does anybody that uses the ipw2200 module ever have problems with it automatically restarting and latching on to another wireless network?
[10:31] <daviscostel> can't fin it
[10:32] <daviscostel> i'll search it on ubuntu packages
[10:32] <finalbeta> Can I get write support for my ntfs partitions? How "good" can linux handle ntfs by now?
[10:32] <vanberge> daviscostel: do you have the extra repositories enabled ?
[10:32] <crazy_penguin> night everyone. sleep well
[10:32] <daviscostel> nope
[10:32] <roostishaw> anyone, how can I uninstall gaim without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop too??
[10:33] <daviscostel> add remove
[10:33] <daviscostel> from aplication
[10:33] <roostishaw> ya, it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too
[10:33] <mjr> roostishaw, you can't. But ubuntu-desktop is just a package list.
[10:33] <mjr> so it can be removed with little ill effects
[10:34] <roostishaw> why is it that i have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop too?
[10:34] <daviscostel> open synaptic
[10:34] <roostishaw> why cant i just get rid of gaim?
[10:34] <daviscostel> search gaim
[10:34] <mjr> roostishaw, because gaim is listed to be a part of ubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <daviscostel> cli on it it then remove
[10:34] <roostishaw> daviscostel, thats what i did, and ubuntu-desktop is in the to be removed tab
[10:35] <hareem> can some one tell me how to install QT 3.x
[10:35] <hareem> please
[10:35] <finalbeta> Can I get write support for my ntfs partitions? How "good" can linux handle ntfs by now?
[10:35] <daviscostel> i just entered now
[10:35] <daviscostel> in synaptic
[10:35] <roostishaw> ok...
[10:35] <daviscostel> for me works
[10:35] <Kyral> finalbeta: it can't
[10:35] <daviscostel> try
[10:36] <roostishaw> hmm... so it dont want to remove ubuntu-desktop too?
[10:36] <daviscostel> nope
[10:36] <daviscostel> just the gaim packages
[10:36] <daviscostel> search GAIM
[10:36] <LjL> hareem: may i ask you why you need it?
[10:36] <LeaChim> can anyone help me with getting ubuntu to see my motorola v235? i just want to see it's filesystem and get my photos off it
[10:36] <roostishaw> daviscostel, 'removal' or 'complete removal'?
[10:37] <daviscostel> google the drivers
[10:37] <hareem> well i am trying to install open kiosk
[10:37] <hareem> it needs QT
[10:37] <LjL> hareem: by "install" you mean "compile"?
[10:37] <hareem> no i mean that open kiosk needs QT 3.x or higher installed in Ubuntu for it to install itself
[10:37] <LjL> hareem: then sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt
[10:38] <daviscostel> wethever u want
[10:38] <daviscostel> remove gaim gaim-data gaim-dev
[10:39] <hareem> LjL i followed your instructions
[10:39] <hareem> but
[10:39] <hareem> this happened
[10:39] <hareem> OpenKiosk NodeView 2.0 Installation
[10:39] <hareem> This script will remove your site's previous configuration if you
[10:39] <hareem> have an old version of NodeView installed (versions 0.8.3 and
[10:39] <hareem> below).The old data format is incompatible with NodeView 2.0.
[10:39] <hareem> Do you have an old version of NodeView in this server? (y/n)? n
[10:39] <hareem> checking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4
[10:39] <daviscostel> complete removal
[10:39] <hareem> checking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding
[10:39] <LjL> !pastebin
[10:39] <hareem> root@edubuntu:/home/hareem/node/nodeview-2.0.3#
[10:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:39] <LjL> hareem: perhaps it's really going to be compiled, after all. try installing libqt3-mt-dev
[10:39] <daviscostel> !pastebin text
[10:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebin text
[10:39] <daviscostel> like this?
[10:39] <vedenemo> anyone knows USB driver for Globespan virara chipset ADSL modem? type asus aam 6310ev
[10:40] <LjL> daviscostel: ?
[10:40] <cisa> does someone have an idea on this problem: http://pastebin.de/8046
[10:40] <hareem> what command should i use
[10:40] <LjL> hareem: sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt-dev
[10:40] <hareem> thanks
[10:40] <cisa> is there a way to remove lvm2 without removing ubuntu-base and ubuntu-standard
[10:40] <daviscostel> roostishaw then CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:40] <daviscostel> after u aplyed
[10:41] <roostishaw> daviscostel, what will that do?
[10:41] <aserbajan> Hi. What does the "server" iso do? Is it ment for servers? It has the same description as the Desktop CD. I always used the Install CD with the old version.
[10:41] <LGKeiz> Hey people, I was wondering If someone could help me, keep  my current OS windows xp home edition without formatting it, yet I can make another partition for Unbuntu to install off of, is that possible?
[10:41] <roostishaw> daviscostel, here's what i get:   http://i5.tinypic.com/15nxbv7.png
[10:41] <LjL> LGKeiz: yes
[10:42] <LjL> !tell LGKeiz about dualboot
[10:42] <hareem> LjL your command does not work
[10:42] <mjr> roostishaw, I repeat, "it can be removed with little ill effects"
[10:42] <Bot_Builder> my god, swiftfox kicks ass
[10:42] <daviscostel> oww
[10:42] <daviscostel> better just leave it like this
[10:42] <LGKeiz> LjL one last question
[10:43] <roostishaw> ...but im trying to install gaim beta2
[10:43] <hareem> checking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding
[10:43] <LGKeiz> do you I need too use the server CD or desktop cd
[10:43] <hareem> what should i fix here
[10:43] <mjr> roostishaw, though would recommend against it unless you're short on disk space
[10:43] <LGKeiz> because desktop cd you can install perm off of too?
[10:43] <kditty> i just installed xp on a dual boot, how can i access my linux drive from xp?
[10:43] <LjL> hareem: my command does work for installing QT3 and it's development files. that Open Kiosk installer is probably broken in some way.
[10:43] <roostishaw> mjr, and what would those effects be?
[10:43] <larson9999> what's the deal with cups and deb distros?  the best i can do is set it up so that i have to start the printer manually everything time i want to print something.  it prints the particular job and then the printer shuts down again
[10:43] <cisa> kditty: you can mount ntfs, read ntfs but i would recommend not to write on ntfs
[10:44] <roostishaw> and why are they 'linked' anyway? it makes no sence
[10:44] <mjr> roostishaw, not getting all the new stuff in ubuntu-desktop installed automatically next time you upgrade your whole ubuntu release
[10:44] <finalbeta> O my god, this can't be. so I have a dualboot ubuntu/xp, I have to create 10 or more fat32 partitions so both OSses can wirte on them? :/
[10:44] <robertj> has anyone else here used k9copy?
[10:44] <robertj> Everything seems to be going ok except the write to dvd progress bar isn't progressing
[10:44] <mjr> roostishaw, because it's handy to install the whole ubuntu desktop environment via a single package
[10:44] <lonegeek> how do i permanetly add windows share to be mounted at boot.... currently i do   sudo mount -t smbfs -o password=,uid=zach //192.168.1.104/TV /media/TV
[10:44] <robertj> oh and my write speed is -1353621632x
[10:44] <roostishaw> robertj, its just wierd like that
[10:44] <Wibble-> lonegeek, edit /etc/fstab (man fstab for info on format)
[10:45] <Wibble-> lonegeek, oh, ignore me.
[10:45] <roostishaw> robertj, wait a while, its writing... it did for me at least.
[10:45] <Loh> how to update kubuntu 5.10 to 6.10. It would be correctly?
[10:45] <hareem> nope
[10:45] <hareem> still the same error
[10:45] <cisa> lonegeek: put it into your /etc/fstab. //192.168.1.104/TV /media/TM smbfs username=...,password=...,uid=... 0 0
[10:45] <roostishaw> mjr, could i just uninstallit, then reinstall it after i uninstall gaim?
[10:46] <robertj> roostishaw: thanks, I hope eventually thoggen catches up
[10:46] <hareem> i loaded a new tar file of openkiosk
[10:46] <hareem> checking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4
[10:46] <hareem> checking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding
[10:46] <techlife> all of a sudden my background no longer exists and I am unable to right click anywhere on the desktop for any options. Any ideas?
[10:46] <roostishaw> robertj, np, it did the same for me... so good luck  :] 
[10:46] <FifaFrazer> the command "recode" is not available in ubuntu ?
[10:46] <aserbajan> Should I install from the Server ISO or the Desktop ISO? I gues the Desktop ISO, but I don't know really what the difference is.
[10:46] <PacketScan> FifaFrazer, likely you'll need to install it.
[10:47] <crocd> aserbajan: what do you want to use?
[10:47] <lonegeek> how do i add a fat32 hd at /dev/hda1 to fstab?
[10:47] <aserbajan> It's a normal movie and surf computer.
[10:47] <crocd> then desktop
[10:47] <Loh> can I update my 5.10 to 6.10 via internet
[10:47] <crocd> server install is more targeted for file sharing  printing and web stuff
[10:47] <aserbajan> OK. There is little description of the Server ISO. What's different? No GUI?
[10:48] <Tommy2k4> 6.10? i thought it was 6.06
[10:48] <ljlolel> Loh: update to 6.04 first
[10:48] <robertj> aserbajan: you can install everything on the server after-the-fact anwyay
[10:48] <ljlolel> lol yea
[10:48] <aserbajan> OK.
[10:48] <ljlolel> 6.06
[10:48] <ljlolel> nevermind
[10:48] <hareem> is there any other way to install QT
[10:48] <FifaFrazer> ty, PacketScan ;)
[10:48] <crocd> aserbajan: but it is a lot of additional work
[10:48] <aserbajan> I will use the Desktop ISO then. Thanks for helping a n00b.
[10:48] <crocd> np
[10:48] <enyc> hareem: erm... there are QT lib packages etc.
[10:49] <enyc> hareem: ?what did you want exactly?
[10:49] <hareem> im just looking to get QT 3.x on to my system
[10:49] <Loh> Sory what is the command to update from 5.10 to 6.06
[10:49] <MonsieurBon> hello
[10:49] <MonsieurBon> what do I have to do, that banshee recognizes my iPod?
[10:50] <enyc> hareem: there are qt3 libs etc theer
[10:50] <hareem> so what should i be doing
[10:51] <aserbajan> I am upgrading from Debian to latest Ubuntu. I want a "clean" install, but I don't want to format my MP3s. Can I just erease all the hidden folders in /home/username?
[10:51] <Loh> What comand upgrade distro? ( from 5.10 to 6.06)
[10:51] <elin> test
[10:51] <enyc> hareem: there are....   see http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:51] <enyc> elin: test sucessful
[10:51] <aserbajan> I want to keep my documents, but not my temp-files and settings. It's messy enough.
[10:51] <SeanTater> ubotu tell LOH about upgrade
[10:52] <enyc> hareem: search for 'qt' on the  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:52] <hareem> ok im checking out your url
[10:52] <enyc> hareem: it depends what you mean by install qt3 ;-)
[10:52] <lonegeek> How can i change hd permissions?
[10:53] <DRFSRich> Hi there, I just installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake and need a little assistance with a question
[10:53] <hareem> well you see iam teying to install open kiosk
[10:53] <SeanTater> Loh: you probably want the dapper part
[10:53] <hareem> and it needs qt and berkely DB to work
[10:53] <hareem> i got berkely installed and working ok. But this QT thing is weird
[10:53] <DRFSRich> I'm able to play videos locally in the standard media player or VLC without issue, however I'm unable to stream them over my wireless from my desktop (Windows XP box).  Does anyone have any input on this situation?
[10:54] <magical_trevsky> hi, this isn't really ubuntu specific at all, but does anyone know if a usb hdd hooked up to a usb 1.1 port will be fast enough to play movies from?
[10:54] <attah> Um.. I tried to play a wmv locally and all i hear is the sound.. some wmv:s play on the web and some with only audio.. does anyone know what the problem is?
[10:54] <mjr> magical_trevsky, mm, yes, it should be
[10:54] <elin> Hi "gang", very new into linux.  Finished installing Ubuntu 5.10. But my System->Administration->Networking brings me NOTHING after login dialog-box.  What am I doing rong?
[10:54] <mjr> magical_trevsky, for most movies, that is; quite possibly some of the new hdtv stuff would be too high-bandwidth
[10:55] <magical_trevsky> ok, thanks :D
[10:55] <enyc> hareem: well... you trying te  _compile from source_  open kiosk ?
[10:55] <hareem> yes
[10:55] <enyc> hareem: if that is the case you will need to install all the relevant -dev  versions of the packages etc.
[10:56] <hareem> it says that it needs QT 3.x
[10:56] <mjr> magical_trevsky, but for instance, standard definition digital television (dvb) usb 1 adapters can shove one mpeg2-encoded tv channel through the link
[10:56] <hareem> well i am using edubuntu so what dev package should i install
[10:56] <lonegeek> Whats wrong with this   /dev/hda1       /media/harddive auto     nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0          the drive is fat 32
[10:56] <magical_trevsky> mjr, thanks for the help :)
[10:56] <enyc> hareem: well... is there a package for something similar (in requirements) in ubuntu-dapper as the  open kiosk ?
[10:57] <enyc> hareem: if so, you can 'sudo apt-get build-dep (package)' and it will install all the necessities to compile that (package)
[10:57] <mjr> (actually, watching TV that way while we speak ;)
[10:58] <lufis> Hi. I'm trying to chown my mounted Windows partition so that I can use it without being root, but I'm getting a "read-only filesystem" error. Any ideas?
[10:59] <Berge> lufis: There are no free NTFS-drivers that can write reliably to NTFS-partitions.
[10:59] <Berge> lufis: ..assuming your Windows-partition is NTFS, of course.
[11:00] <hareem> nope
[11:00] <Berge> lufis: You could try with captive - it's a wrapper around Windows' own drivers. Bit of a hack, really.
[11:00] <hareem> still cannot the QT thing
[11:00] <Berge> But works.
[11:00] <wayne_> yep
[11:00] <lufis> Berge: Yes, I know. I think what I'm meaning to say is how do I allow myself to view the partition? I can view it as root, but that gets annoying. Is there a way to do that within ftsab, maybe?
[11:00] <lonegeek> Can someone help me mount a fat hard drive
[11:01] <pekay> nG: there?
[11:01] <Decoy_> hello
[11:01] <Berge> lufis: Ah, sorry. Yep, you need to set the correct umask in fstab.
[11:01] <Tommy2k4> why does kubuntu crash, lots of multicolored vertical lines for a few seconds then monitor said "attention - 31K / 0Hz - frequency out of range
[11:01] <gatekeeper> Berge I thought that Xandros reckon they have sorted writting to NTFS?
[11:01] <capitan> where would the best place to go to get help on using ubuntu
[11:01] <pekay> Ng: are you there?
[11:01] <lonegeek> in fstab its /dev/hda1       /media/harddrive vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0       and it doesnt show up on desktop or under computer like a properly mounted drive would
[11:01] <lufis> Berge: What would that be? I tried "user" and "rw" as one of the options, but neither worked
[11:01] <watever> pcj-9ccwe;v
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[11:01] <watever> vanbergelw
[11:01] <watever> [kv
[11:01] <Berge> gatekeeper: I wouldn't know. I'm fairly shure they don't use free drivers, it that case.
[11:01] <lufis> Lonegeek: look in /media/harddrive
[11:02] <Decoy_> has anyone noticed that the volume control on the gnome panel doesnt do anything, how would I change it from changing the master volume, to changing hte PCM volume
[11:02] <lonegeek> lufis: its there....but its not how my other drives show up mounted......
[11:02] <Berge> lufis: You'd want to set umask and uid in the options-filed.
[11:02] <Berge> lufis: filed, even
[11:02] <wayne_> Ubuntu forum is very good an the pace slower
[11:02] <Decoy_> has anyone noticed that the volume control on the gnome panel doesnt do anything, how would I change it from changing the master volume, to changing hte PCM volume
[11:02] <lufis> Berge: Ah, alright. I actually am not aware of umask, haha. I'll do a google. Thanks man
[11:02] <wayne_> yes
[11:03] <hareem> does any one know how to setup openkiosk
[11:03] <CarlFK> is there a #wine channel? (other than #wine that has me +1)
[11:03] <Berge> lufis: No problem (-: Just ask if there's anything.
[11:03] <MonsieurBon> my banshee suddenly doesn't see my iPod anymore. It used to work fine before! Any ideas what could be the problem?
[11:03] <LjL> CarlFK: #winehq
[11:03] <CarlFK> da!.. thanks
[11:03] <Decoy_> has anyone here set up warcraft 3 frozen with wine on ubuntu?
[11:03] <lufis> lonegeek: What do you mean?
[11:04] <Berge> lufis: umask is basically the bitmask that sets permissions. You'll find a lot of info around on it. The uid-option decides which user will own the files on the partition.
[11:04] <cx42> hi everybody
[11:04] <lufis> Berge: Ah, thanks. I was going insane wondering why I couldn't view it
[11:04] <lonegeek> lufis: when i mounted it before...when i had it has a ntfs drive...it showed on desktop.......
[11:04] <gatekeeper> Berge check out: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6292016620.html :-)
[11:05] <wayne_> My DSL Service is Verizon.net also my email.  What type of service is needed for Gaim
[11:05] <konfuzed> 676678-)>:o:-!h,g,ltluhfkf;y;y;O:-)khllhy;upui8iuklkl7'il7ip7kiyouj:-Xmbhbvmydsyruasp3wjdnfkfd008-)oymb35ode7uipft8888886ghgkjgzoeeo     :-/hirhhfalggykkufkhufjghdghfhdfmbffnhfjghjggkjngjjjfjg409gfyeejcxk jfgjgib hhkuf      fjnvfngmkjbhvhb,vhfcvg,bn mghgunjtkj zolltd    hyhgdhjfgfvidt68g0
[11:05] <lufis> Lonegeek: ah, you need to change it from /media/harddrive to /home/username/Desktop/harddrive
[11:05] <Berge> lufis: A bit annoying having to do stuff as root, yes (-:
[11:05] <cx42> i need some help for  configuring apache server, i would like to modify the path for www, how can i do it ?
[11:05] <lonegeek> lufis: it wasnt like that before...and it worked just fine...
[11:05] <lufis> lonegeek: Yeah, I don't know why it doesn't do that. It happened to me too
[11:05] <mikebot> is there any way to boost a torrent download?
[11:05] <Flannel> cx42: it's in your sites-enabled folder.  You'll probably get much better help in #apache
[11:05] <lonegeek> like under places on the menu...... its not listed..but other mounts are
[11:06] <harisund> cx42,
[11:06] <cx42> ok thanks Flannel
[11:06] <lonegeek> and if i do sudo mount -a     i get mount point 0 does not exist
[11:06] <lufis> Berge: Thanks a ton, I'll check it out
[11:06] <cx42> harisund: yes ?
[11:06] <Berge> lufis: np
[11:06] <Flannel> cx42: only difference in ubuntu is the way everything is separated, but the file you need is your site in sites-available
[11:06] <harisund> the line that you need to edit is in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[11:06] <hou5ton> OK .... who wants a challenge ... I "think" i've tried about everything ... my laptop screen will not work with 1440x900, although that's what it is, and it worked in Breezy just fine.
[11:07] <cx42> ok thanks Flannel and harisund :)
[11:07] <harisund> cx42, use sudo and edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default . You will find /var/www at 2 places. Edit them both exactly the same way.
[11:07] <Berge> gatekeeper: I haven't investigated it, but it seems to me as if the software from Paragon, which provides NTFS-support, is non-free..
[11:07] <bitwise> hello -- i am experiencing internet problems when booting into ubuntu. i have a dual boot machine and a wired internet connection into a router, when booting into windows things work fine, but with ubu, i have internet connection problems, and the wireless stops working on the router as well
[11:07] <hareem> can someone please help me setup nodeview
[11:07] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem in ubuntu?
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[11:07] <cx42> harisund: why it's different than httpd.conf ? (sorry for my english, i'm french)
[11:07] <Berge> konfuzed: Cheers.
[11:07] <harisund> cx42 everything has been modularized by the debian package management guys.
[11:08] <_joel> Hello everyone
[11:08] <konfuzed> hey sorry my 5 year old is learngin to type on her new edubuntu computer
[11:08] <harisund> so httpd.conf has become obsolete.
[11:08] <cx42> ok :)
[11:08] <harisund> individual apache2 settings are in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:08] <Berge> konfuzed: Great (-: Looks like she needs just a tad more training, perhaps.
[11:08] <bitwise> i tried disabling the ipv6 stuff in ff, but the router still seems to be grinding to a halt
[11:08] <gatekeeper> cx42 have a look at virtual hosts
[11:08] <_joel> I am looking for a screencasting acpture app like istanbul. Any ideas?
[11:08] <harisund> module settings are in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and so on .. but only in Ubuntu and Debian
[11:08] <martyn> does any 1 know of a program that will give me a menu like OSX
[11:09] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup my f200 crypto modem in ubuntu
[11:09] <harisund> cx42 so if you intend to follow from some book or something, be careful what you edit.
[11:09] <cx42> gatekeeper: what ?
[11:09] <elin> Finished installing Ubuntu 5.10. but cat bring up Network-tool via System->Administration->Networking. I get prompt for password but nothing after.  Any clues to what I am doing wrong?
[11:09] <steev> hey all, im trying to build a deb, and it keeps complaining that 4 is the highest compatibility level of debhelper currently supported - what is it talking about? anyone have some pointers? the top 2 sites that google comes up with are in Japanese
[11:09] <martyn> does any 1 know of a program that will give me a menu like OSX
[11:10] <Berge> martyn: What menu are you refering to?
[11:10] <Stardog> how to install ATI driver in dapper.... the method used in breezy wont work in dapper
[11:10] <Berge> martyn: The dock in OS X or the top-screen-menus?
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> martyn:  try Kubuntu KDE has an OSX theme
[11:10] <martyn> bergs: the dock and its on gnome
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[11:11] <Stardog> how to install ATI driver in dapper?.... the method used in breezy wont work in dapper
[11:11] <Berge> martyn: There are several dock-like applications, iirc.
[11:11] <martyn> bergs: whats easy to use and looks good
[11:11] <Owner> after installing xp to another hard disk, when i try to load ubuntu i get the msg /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. does anyone know what this means or how to fix it?
[11:11] <gatekeeper> cx42 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/examples.html
[11:11] <cx42> gatekeeper: why i need to look virtual hosts ?
[11:11] <judah> OS X.. that's about it.
[11:11] <cx42> gatekeeper: ok
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[11:12] <bctrainers> o_O
[11:12] <Berge> martyn: You could probably take a look at http://www.tuaw.com/2006/06/20/make-ubuntu-look-like-os-x/
[11:12] <LjL> konfuzed: what do you think you're doing?
[11:12] <judah> konfuzed: i think your keyboard map is messed up.
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ownersounds like you hosed your grub
[11:12] <ablyss> martyn: http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac  this one is easy and looks good,
[11:12] <javiolo> hi
[11:12] <martyn> bergs: thx mate
[11:12] <kditty> can i reinstall it Jack_Sparrow
[11:12] <Berge> martyn: Actually, I meant http://users.utu.fi/ljtaim/ubuntuosx.php (-:
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: SOnds like you hosed your grub bootloader
[11:13] <ablyss> gdesklets has a real nice one to
[11:13] <javiolo> I use firestarter, how can I open a port via ssh ?
[11:13] <hou5ton> OK .... who wants a challenge ... I "think" i've tried about everything ... my laptop screen will not work with 1440x900, although that's what it is, and it worked in Breezy just fine.  I'm beginning to think that in Dapper, it just isn't going to happen.
[11:13] <kditty> i think windows wrote over it Jack_Sparrow
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep it does...
[11:14] <mikebot> is there any way to boost a torrent download?
[11:14] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: there was an option in Mepis to just reinstall the grub bootloader and I have used it before to repair systems
[11:15] <fiveiron> whats a nice dvd authoring tool?
[11:15] <fiveiron> for video dvd's
[11:15] <kditty> i dont even know what mepis is Jack_Sparrow
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: I have a grub boot floppy image you might be able to make work..
[11:15] <gatekeeper> mikebot if you fiddle with the uploads the downloads should improve
[11:15] <LjL> ablyss: what's wrong with the precompiled ones?
[11:15] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup my f200 crypto modem in ubuntu
[11:15] <javiolo> I use firestarter on my comp, Im now connected via ssh, how can I open a port ?
[11:15] <kditty> thats what i was hoping for, but a disc.... i dont have a floppy drive :\
[11:15] <mikebot> gatekeeper: my uploads are at unlimited
[11:16] <judah> javiolo: ssh runs on port 22
[11:16] <judah> by default.
[11:16] <gatekeeper> mikebot possible need to throtle back upload speed
[11:16] <mathieu> my laptop does not resume from hibernate any advice ? ?
[11:16] <javiolo> judah I know
[11:16] <ablyss> LjL: thought you'd never ask :-)  I run two versions: 1 the latest build, and 2 an older version that only supports a handful of apps
[11:16] <javiolo> judah Im asking about opening other port
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty:  We can probably use a bootable CD instead but I dont have one handy
[11:16] <gatekeeper> mikebot: if they are unlimited then that is probable your problem
[11:16] <judah> javiolo: what other port?
[11:16] <mikebot> really?
[11:17] <javiolo> judah vnc 5900
[11:17] <ablyss> LjL: in order to run multiple version I find the easiest way is to run them from the src tree
[11:17] <] GoldenDragon> hmm,anyone here used VisualBoyAdvance on Ubuntu?
[11:17] <mikebot> i thought that if you just make upload at max, then your download should be max
[11:17] <kditty> i guess i should try to google for it Jack_Sparrow
[11:17] <cx42> i have a problem but i don't understand : when i'm go on my www directory with my navigator (on http://localhost/), if the page is a *.php, my navigator want to download it ... how can i modify it for see the page ? gatekeeper, and idea ?
[11:17] <enyc> hareem: hareem  you may find libqt3-mt-dev  and such ilke packages....
[11:17] <Jack_Sparrow> WOnt find one I dont think..
[11:17] <J_P> hi all
[11:17] <gatekeeper> mikebot don't think it works like that you have to get the balance right :-)
[11:17] <Flannel> cx42: did you install php? and libapache2-mod-php?
[11:18] <kditty> what is the difference in grub legacy and grub 2?
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> If you have broadband you can get the Mepis LIve CD...
[11:18] <javiolo> judah any idea ?
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> 3.4.3 was the last free version..
[11:18] <LjL> ablyss: sounds reasonable. is that because the latest version breaks with things that the older version didn't?
[11:18] <kditty> yea im on broadband
[11:18] <judah> javiolo: http://www.fs-security.com/docs.php that'll probably get you there.
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty:  So you dont have a floppy drive in the laptop?
[11:18] <mikebot> gatekeeper: ah
[11:19] <mikebot> alright well thanks, i have to be off, hopefully i can fix it later
[11:19] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, its a desktop, and no i dont
[11:19] <kditty> newer omputers dont come with floppy :\
[11:19] <Jack_Sparrow> kd, np it would just make life easier..
[11:19] <bitwise> anyone know why ubuntu would bring down a router its connected to?
[11:19] <gatekeeper> cx42 not sure sounds to me that you haven't got the config right for apache to deliver php pages
[11:19] <gatekeeper> cx42 or should I say serve pages
[11:20] <wayne_> weird
[11:20] <javiolo> judah thanks
[11:20] <gatekeeper> mikebot: good luck
[11:20] <wayne_> wierd?
[11:20] <cx42> Flannel: i just download libapache-mod-php5, and i had downloaded php5 before, but i always can't see the php pages
[11:20] <javiolo> judah but it seems I cant control it via terminal...
[11:21] <Flannel> cx42: in /etc/apache2/mods-available do you have php5.load? and php5.conf?
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> I can send you the MS dual boot floppy image and you would need to edit it to point to your Linux partition and convert it to CD,  It would be easier to reinstall Ub if you dont have much work into setting it up
[11:21] <cx42> i have apache2 php5
[11:21] <Flannel> cx42: or, 'just downloaded', have you restarted since then?
[11:21] <judah> javiolo: you could use iptables to write the rules you need but they would be lost on next firestarter startup unless you configured them there.
[11:21] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, can i pm you?
[11:22] <judah> javiolo: firestarter is really just a fancy gui for iptables.
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure
[11:22] <javiolo> judah is there any way to see to see the firestarter rules ?
[11:22] <cx42> Flannel: apt had restarted apache (apparently)
[11:23] <judah> javiolo: there's probably a firestarter directory in /etc/ somwhere. /etc/firestarter i bet.
[11:23] <cx42> in /etc/apache2/mods-available, i can't see anything (it's not possible to open the file, also on root)
[11:23] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup my f200 crypto modem in ubuntu
[11:23] <judah>  /etc/fires{TAB}
[11:23] <javiolo> judah ok thanks
[11:23] <javiolo> judah do I need to touch iptables ?
[11:23] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, anyone know if its possible to save states in VisualBoyAdvance on Ubuntu? using either VBA Express or Gnomeboy
[11:23] <Flannel> cx42: its a directory, not a file.
[11:23] <cx42> ok
[11:24] <judah> javiolo: not if you're using firestarter ..
[11:24] <javiolo> judah ok
[11:24] <Decoy_> what is a program that can uncompress rar part files that works on ubuntu
[11:24] <benoy> does anyone know how to modify the right click menu?
[11:24] <cx42> php5.conf and php5.load ok, is in the directory
[11:24] <javiolo> judah Im going to check it
[11:24] <Flannel> cx42: alright, now go to mods-enabled (instead of mods-available) do you see php5.load in there?
[11:24] <Decoy_> what is a program that can uncompress rar part files that works on ubuntu? anyone know one?
[11:25] <hareem> can some one please help me setting up open kiosk
[11:25] <gnomefreak> !rar
[11:25] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:25] <cx42> php5.conf and .load (but the color of the test is blue/green)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Decoy_: ^^^
[11:25] <Flannel> cx42: in mods-enabled? alright.  do this: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:25] <ablyss> LjL: yes
[11:26] <Decoy_> thanks
[11:26] <Woozle> I have installed unrar-free, but I don't find info on how to use it.  When I click my rar files, the Archive Manager wont open them
[11:26] <cx42> Flannel: apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName --> it's normal ?
[11:26] <varsendaggar> ok i don't have a working cd-r    but i have the dapper.iso   and a really messed up breezy.   is there a way to run the iso from the hard drive and install dapper?   it isn't the harddrive that i  will put / on
[11:26] <patrick_king> how do i install flash and java on ubutnu
[11:26] <varsendaggar> from the cli
[11:26] <patrick_king> dapper
[11:26] <patrick_king> !frostwire
[11:26] <Kane2931> i try to install the new Ubuntu, but my screen is only 640x480 as detected... is there a way to switch it to 1024x768, because right now i can't install it. :-(
[11:26] <ubotu> frostwire is A totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:27] <Flannel> varsendaggar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation will give you a whole slew of installation methods
[11:27] <lecaros> !java
[11:27] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:27] <Woozle> !unrar-free
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about unrar-free
[11:27] <Woozle> =\
[11:27] <daaku> aiglx is SWEEET
[11:27] <cx42> Flannel: have you an idea ?
[11:27] <lecaros> !tell patrick_king java
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell patrick_king java
[11:28] <cx42> Flannel: i can remove apache2, php5 mysql and phpmyadmin and install xamp no ?
[11:28] <GeistDerZeit> I installed several packages in a row. After they're installed, i couldn't use the qwordtrans. Sometime after, i shutted down my PC. When i come back and tried to start it, the first time i gotta locked on Gnome Start Screen. Crt+Alt+Backspace didn't take efect and i couldn't use the text only terminals. I rebooted and everything is fine, except qwordtrans. So, my question is: how can i now which packages i installed last time, so i could get rid of
[11:28] <GeistDerZeit> them and go back to my previous state, where all things were working?
[11:28] <rekrutacja> hi all i have a prblem with beagle it shows me very accurately search results, bur it searches only mi IM messages. No files, no mail. This is very disturbing. What gone wrong?
[11:28] <daaku> and on a laptop 915 shared vram card too!
[11:29] <apocaliptico> disculpen..  alguien sabe cual es el canal para ubuntu en espaol.
[11:30] <ljlolel> #ubuntu-es
[11:30] <apocaliptico>   gracias.. !
[11:30] <martyn> Berge: i have tried that site u gave me it still does not have program name that i can use to make a docking menu like osx
[11:30] <ljlolel> de nada
[11:30] <Woozle> How can I open a set of .rar files on Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:30] <Flannel> !tell cx42 about lamp
[11:30] <Kane2931> where in Gnome i can change my screen resolution ?
[11:30] <judah> apt-cache search unrar
[11:30] <Flannel> cx42: if you're installing all of those, the link ubotu sent you will tell you how to configure everything
[11:31] <Usunny> just typ rar -<whatever u want> filnam and path
[11:31] <GeistDerZeit> Ops, i found out. I've just to watch the Historic of changes, in Edit Menu of Synaptic. Thanks, anyways.
[11:31] <KuLover> Anyone here use Skype?
[11:31] <yallaman> hm..can i use m mouse wheel to change workspaces?
[11:31] <steev> if someone who is familiar with dpkg-buildpackage could take a moment to glance at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16480 and tell me where the line 1 and line 2 errors are coming from, it would be greatly appreciated
[11:31] <hou5ton> Kane2931:  Systems >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution
[11:31] <Woozle> How can I open a set of .rar files on Ubuntu 6.06, if I already have unrar-free download?
[11:31] <Berge> martyn: It didn't? Sorry, I thought so. Hm, didn't someone else on this channel suggest a program?
[11:31] <yallaman> hm..can i use m mouse wheel to change workspaces?
[11:31] <cx42> Flannel: ubotu doesn't response :p
[11:31] <godmachine81> KuLover, i use skype
[11:31] <benoy> how come in breezy and dapper they do not have ther terminal in the right mouse button menu?  Is there a way to put the terminal command there?
[11:31] <Berge> martyn: http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac, ie.
[11:32] <cx42> ohh in private message !! ok thank's Flannel!
[11:32] <Woozle>   I tried unrar-free /path/archive.001.rar but it fails (I think it fails to see the other archives in the set)
[11:32] <steev> benoy: nautilus-open-terminal package
[11:32] <Berge> martyn: And there's supposed to be on in gdesklets as well.
[11:32] <benoy> what is that?
[11:32] <gatekeeper> flannel the last time I installed apache and php was on debian and it did all the config for me, much better then windows, haven't tried it on kubuntu but would expect it to be like debian??
[11:33] <attah> Um.. I tried to play a wmv locally and all i hear is the sound.. some wmv:s play on the web and some with only audio.. does anyone know what the problem is? (lagged out last time, this is my last try, if you responded i did not get that)
[11:33] <Kane2931> hou5ton: i struct at max 640x480 :(
[11:33] <steev> gatekeeper: correct
[11:33] <godmachine81> a docking menu like osx would be candybar
[11:33] <Flannel> gatekeeper: yeah, ubuntu sets up apache/everything and it works without any additional config
[11:33] <godmachine81> in gdesklets
[11:33] <hou5ton> Kane2931:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:33] <gatekeeper> Flannel steev good to hear :-)
[11:34] <attah> jaay! i did not lagg out... wmv anyone?
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> hi.
[11:35] <Woozle> Am I correct that for multiple archive files, the syntax would be:  unrar-free /path/file.001  (assuming there 099 files) ?
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> is there a simple easy to use instructions for setting up a dsl speedtouch 330 usb modem on Breezy? It's for a friend
[11:35] <d00by> anybody know how to retrieve mp3 tag info using gambas?
[11:36] <varsendaggar> i have 394 mb ram and a 9 gig hd how much swap should i have
[11:36] <ljlolel> a rule of thumb is twice as much swap as ram
[11:36] <nicosaan> Anyone mind digging http://digg.com/programming/Code_Bash for me?
[11:36] <PMantis> regular rules say doube your RAM for swap... but ther's a point at which this becomes unreasonable.
[11:37] <PMantis> at least IMO
[11:37] <Woozle> Is there another place where I should be asking about help with rar files on Ubuntu?
[11:37] <Flannel> PMantis: right, 1GB of swap is probably max for almost anyone.
[11:37] <ljlolel> yea
[11:37] <fiveiron> hmm.. i need to convert an xvid file to mpeg2.. any good apps out there?
[11:37] <godmachine81> PMantis, i agree.. if you have more than 512mb ram there is no need in staying double on the swap.  I feel that 1gb of swap is enough swap for any amount of ram
[11:37] <PMantis> Flannel, Say that in 15 years
[11:37] <PMantis> :)
[11:37] <dapper-ipodder> anyone have any experience with 915resolution ?
[11:38] <DarkMageZ> fiveiron, i hear memcode is good for that
[11:38] <Hexidigital_> dapper-ipodder:: i do
[11:38] <ljlolel> fiveiron: if you arent' afraid of cli, ffmpeg does everything
[11:38] <fiveiron> cli?
[11:38] <martyn> bergs: ill try the gdesklets is there nay way to force this at the stat
[11:38] <Hexidigital_> dapper-ipodder:: well, i have experience installing it... not tweaking or configuring... it just worked for me
[11:38] <ljlolel> fiveiron: command line interface
[11:38] <dapper-ipodder> i can't seem to get the correct resolution on a lenovo 3000 n100 -- s/b 1280x800
[11:38] <FiNaLBeTa> I changed an ntfs partition to fat32 under windows, now grub gives me error 17. what's the fastest/best way to recover?
[11:38] <Hexidigital_> dapper-ipodder:: is it an Intel chipset?
[11:38] <Woozle> Can anyone tell me to take a long walk off a short pier?
[11:39] <fiveiron> oh, yeah, for video conversion i much prefer console
[11:39] <dapper-ipodder> yup - did 915resolution -l and didn't see the correct reso
[11:39] <Hexidigital_> Woozle:: yes... www.microsoft.com
[11:39] <Woozle> ktnx Hexi
[11:39] <Inzoy> hello, can somebody help me please?
[11:39] <dapper-ipodder> no matter what I change it to, it seems to be the same.... is there a way to probe what its set to?
[11:39] <d00by> anybody know how to retrieve mp3 tag info using gambas?
[11:39] <varsendaggar> what should my sources.list  look like to upgrade to dapper
[11:39] <ljlolel> fiveiron: man ffmpeg
[11:39] <fatlip> hi :)
[11:39] <Stormx2> Freenode was hijacked? :S
[11:40] <MenZa> Yep
[11:40] <MenZa> According to Slashy, at least.
[11:40] <Inzoy> i got a GA-8I945 Pro motherboard and cannot boot ubuntu! any ideas?
[11:40] <godmachine81> varsendaggar, replace hoary/breezy with dapper, write it
[11:40] <MenZa> I asked a couple of other guys. Apparently it was "like a Netsplit, but much, much worse"
[11:40] <godmachine81> varsendaggar, then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:40] <Hexidigital_> dapper-ipodder:: like i said... it just worked for me... try this
[11:40] <varsendaggar> wow Freenode was hacked?    i saw that
[11:40] <judah> Inzoy: dart board?
[11:40] <Hexidigital_> !fixres > dapper-ipodder
[11:40] <Inzoy> judah? what dou you mean?
[11:41] <judah> Inzoy: uses for that mother board.
[11:41] <judah> Inzoy: you know.. A JOKE.
[11:41] <J_P> hey all, I not understand what needs that linux-image-2.6.15-25-server on my p4 if there are the linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 (for p4). anyone can explaim me ?
[11:41] <Banana> what's this Big Iron thing I've heard about?
[11:41] <Inzoy> .. why? its a freakin cool mb
[11:41] <J_P> I am install the server..
[11:41] <cx42> Flannel: i do everything for configuring apache with php5 and mysql but it doesn't work !!! firefox ask me for downloading php pages !!
[11:42] <Hexidigital_> Banana:: an anvil?
[11:42] <steveire> How do I get the photos from my digital camera? What should I aptitude?
[11:42] <dapper-ipodder> Hexi -> !fixres?
[11:42] <Inzoy> there's got to be some way to boot ubuntu..
[11:42] <godmachine81> J_P it doesnt uninstall the current kernel when you download a newer one, so therefore they still stay on your grub menu and in /boot until your manually remove them
[11:42] <Banana> Hex: no, this new kernal or something
[11:42] <Hexidigital_> dapper-ipodder:: that didnt' send you a pm?
[11:42] <Banana> Multiprocessor
[11:42] <Hexidigital_> Banana:: oh
[11:42] <DarkMageZ> steveire, with most digital camera's you can just plug it in, and you will see an icon on your desktop
[11:42] <godmachine81> s/your/you
[11:42] <Hexidigital_> !fixres
[11:42] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:42] <dapper-ipodder> another tab in gaim -- sorry.. new to gaim
[11:42] <Woozle> actually, thank you Hexidigital_   you're right!  since Ubuntu cannot handle rar files, I'll boot back into Windows.  heh, ironically perfect... dunno if I'll ever escape MSFT
[11:43] <bbrazil> Banana: big iron usually takes up at least one room
[11:43] <Hexidigital_> Woozle:: ubuntu can handle rar
[11:43] <Hexidigital_> !rar
[11:43] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:43] <Banana> Woozle, ubuntu can handle rar
[11:43] <Hexidigital_> Banana:: he's gone already
[11:43] <Banana> I open them all the time
[11:43] <Banana> ahh
[11:43] <Banana> damn
[11:44] <steveire> doesn't work for mine
[11:44] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Are there freenode SSL servers
[11:44] <bbrazil> jrattner1: ask in #freenode
[11:44] <jrattner1> bbrazil, its -v in there
[11:44] <godmachine81> whats the FT stand for?
[11:44] <patrick_king> !frostwire
[11:44] <ubotu> frostwire is A totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:44] <bbrazil> jrattner1: check the online FAQ, if they do they'll say it
[11:44] <Hexidigital_> godmachine81:: as in MSFT?
[11:44] <Banana> Soo.. If I have a dual proc sparc T1 server, I don't need to install big iron?
[11:44] <godmachine81> Hexidigital, yes
[11:45] <jrattner1> bbrazil, k
[11:45] <dapper-ipodder> hexi - > I'm a schmuck, can you send that video link..
[11:45] <Hexidigital_> godmachine81:: it's just how microsoft abbreviates it in their certification cources
[11:45] <bbrazil> Banana: niagra? Not sure
[11:45] <J_P> godmachine81: not you don't understand my question.My question is : I really need a server, so I install the ubuntu-server cd, and default kernel installed is a  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server. But my cpu is a p4. And in apt-cache search linux-image show apropriated kernel ( linux-image-2.6.15-25-686) for p4 system and ( linux-image-2.6.15-25-k7) etc. Well, do I need install  linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 for my p4 or i use  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server ?
[11:45] <Hexidigital_> dapper-ipodder:: video link?
[11:45] <capitan> how do you utulize the remote desktop feature in ubuntu?
[11:45] <bbrazil> Banana: check colmaccc's blog, he was doing work on that stuff
[11:45] <Hexidigital_> capitan:: vino
[11:45] <dapper-ipodder> that link to fix video resolution problems
[11:45] <Inzoy> i'm supposed to be here to get helped.. anyone?
[11:45] <bbrazil> Banana: with the correct number of c and m s
[11:45] <steveire> DarkMageZ: What program is the icon on the desktop?
[11:46] <Hexidigital_> capitan:: vncviewer host.name.com:0 to connect
[11:46] <cx42> Flannel: an idea ?
[11:46] <DarkMageZ> J_P, you use the -server, it is optimised for server's. the -686 is optimised for desktop use
[11:46] <godmachine81> the -server is a dummy package that will get a server compiled kernel for your class of processor J_P
[11:46] <DShepherd> has anyone noticed a redrawing issue with gnome2.14.2 and the ati driver?
[11:46] <GeistDerZeit> $ qwordtrans gives me the following error. Anyone, who knows QT could help me to understand the following error message i got in the prompt: "
[11:46] <GeistDerZeit> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[11:46] <GeistDerZeit>   what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
[11:46] <GeistDerZeit>  Aborted
[11:46] <GeistDerZeit> "
[11:47] <whoever> hallo zusammen
[11:47] <Inzoy> come on you people... quit ignoring me
[11:47] <J_P> DarkMageZ: and godmachine81: good! now if my machine is a amd and not p4, when I install ubuntu will be install same kernel ( linux-image-2.6.15-25-server) right ? And this same kernel is optimized for amd too ?
[11:48] <DarkMageZ> steveire, it's not a program, it will be an icon of a usb drive (should be the icon that appears and disappears as you plug and unplug the camera)
[11:48] <Inzoy> am i invisible?
[11:48] <godmachine81> J_P,  it will install the kernel based on your current kernel
[11:49] <antinobody> What are you asking about Inzoy?
[11:49] <antinobody> I just got here
[11:49] <Inzoy> i came here with a question and the only answer was "your mb sux"
[11:49] <godmachine81> J_P, uname -r           that will tell you what kernel you are using now
[11:49] <steveire> ah, right, much like with my creative player. I'll try a different usb port, because I don't see anything new in /dev either
[11:49] <Inzoy> i got an GA-8I945 Pro and cannot boot ubuntu
[11:49] <antinobody> Inzoy what was the question?
[11:49] <jmichaelx> Inzoy: that is typical LOL
[11:49] <godmachine81> Inzoy, your booting will be based on the kernel that you are trying to boot..
[11:50] <Banana> so how can I get a hold of Niagra/Nevada/SunSparc T1000 installer for Ubuntu?
[11:50] <antinobody> What exactly happens when you try to Inzoy
[11:50] <bbrazil> Banana: check colmmacc's blog
[11:50] <J_P> godmachine81: yes, I now, but if my machine is a amd and not p4, when I install ubuntu will be install same kernel ( linux-image-2.6.15-25-server) right ? And this same kernel is optimized for amd too ?
[11:50] <Inzoy> i'm trying to boot the desktop disc..
[11:50] <antinobody> Inzoy and what happens?
[11:51] <Inzoy> it starts doing its stuff and suddenly it says something about a "tty" (or something like that) and leaves me with a command prompt
[11:51] <antinobody> Does a screen pop up saying "failed to load X"?
[11:51] <Banana> bbrazil: I have, but I don't see any links or real information
[11:51] <antinobody> Inzoy what kind of graphics card do you have?
[11:51] <godmachine81> J_P,  like i said that will be dependant on your current kernel version.  if you have a p4 kernel installed it will install the p4 server kernel.. if you have amd it will install the amd server kernel.
[11:51] <Kibou> command prompts are your friend
[11:51] <Inzoy> nvidia
[11:51] <godmachine81> Inzoy,  does it say BusyBox?
[11:51] <Inzoy> busybox..
[11:52] <steveire> Qapla. Thanks DarkMageZ
[11:52] <gatekeeper> antinobody: is this a Ctrl + F7 problem???
[11:52] <jmichaelx> i need to get the i686 kernel put on my machines
[11:52] <Inzoy> yeah.. i think it says something like that
[11:52] <Banana> colmmacc just talks about what he's done so far
[11:52] <antinobody> gatekeeper no se...
[11:52] <Inzoy> Nvidia GF 6200 tc
[11:52] <antinobody> I was ruling out the ATI problem
[11:52] <godmachine81> i had that same problem with breezy a while back.  I couldnt figure it out either, i reinstalled and it worked ok
[11:52] <Inzoy> :)
[11:53] <Inzoy> the problem is that i haven't installed it yet
[11:53] <Inzoy> :P
[11:53] <antinobody> godmachine81 were you using the live cd though?  it sounds like Inzoy is.
[11:53] <cx42> Flannel: ok now it's good (i don't know why but it work good so thank you very much !) and good night :)
[11:53] <cx42> good night everybody !!
[11:53] <cx42> by
[11:53] <J_P> godmachine81: Now, if my current server machine died and I will be buy a new machine ( one amd k7), and I get out hd from p4 and insert into a new machine (amd) the startup will be change the kernel ? not right ? Or I will be need reinstall the  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server to detect new cpu ?
[11:53] <judah> pleasent dreams.
[11:53] <kditty> does the dapper drake install cd have a rescue function?
[11:53] <puckylunk> Let me keep this brief.  Paraguay played a dirty, shameful game.  And I'm running Breezy  from a LiveCD on a competent i386.  I have 4 partitions on my HD, 2 NTFS (WinXP) and 2 ReiserFS (Debian), and it won't enable any of them.  I'm trying to download/burn the liveCD for Dapper so I can actually install this.
[11:53] <godmachine81> antinobody,  no i just had a power outage and when it rebooted it went to busybox..
[11:54] <gdb> kditty: It's a complete system so as a matter of course can be used as a rescue disc.
[11:54] <LjL> kditty: being a live cd, you can pretty much do what you like
[11:54] <antinobody> his is an installation problem, and he's using the desktop cd
[11:54] <eegore> hey judaH HOW GOES IT
[11:54] <puckylunk> Also, I'm fairly clueless in Linux, but I read through the help, and it seems to think that clicking "enable" oughtta work in the disk manager...  Help?
[11:54] <eegore> oops
[11:54] <godmachine81> J_P,  if you plan on swapping the hard drive into another PC i would recommend you install both kernels and boot the appropriate one from the menu
[11:54] <judah> eegorE: FINE thanks.
[11:55] <judah> eggzeck: U/
[11:55] <varsendaggar> ok i just installed breezy server.   should i distupgrade to dapper now?
[11:55] <kditty> i tried to boot with it but im getting an error message, and my installed version of dapper wont load with the error message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[11:55] <crimsun> varsendaggar: if you wish. Breezy is supported until July of next year.
[11:55] <LjL> varsendaggar: err, couldn't you install *dapper* server instead? =)
[11:55] <J_P> godmachine81: both ? you say both kernels ( linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 and  linux-image-2.6.15-25-k7) and  not  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server only right ?
[11:55] <Inzoy> nice..
[11:55] <judah> whois eegore
[11:56] <varsendaggar> llj  yeah that would be best but no cd burner here
[11:56] <Inzoy> let me boot my machine to tell you exactly what it says..
[11:56] <godmachine81> J_P install both k7 and 686
[11:56] <antinobody> Inzoy, sounds like a plan
[11:56] <Inzoy> :P
[11:56] <judah> shit haha..
[11:56] <yallaman> omgz.. just noticed that cpu load is at 100%..and i aint running anything..what couses this?
[11:56] <judah> so funny.
[11:56] <J_P> godmachine81: but if is a server I need  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server right ?
[11:56] <DShepherd> Inzoy: do you know what graphics driver ubuntu is using?
[11:57] <LjL> varsendaggar: well if it's a clean install, the upgrade is bound to go well. you should probably do a dist-upgrade *inside* breezy first before dist-upgrading *to* dapper, though
[11:57] <J_P> godmachine81: Did you understand what is the point ?
[11:57] <godmachine81> J_P,  you dont "need" that server compiled kernel
[11:57] <Inzoy> .. i don't think i know
[11:57] <yallaman> omgz.. just noticed that cpu load is at 100%..and i aint running anything..what couses this?
[11:57] <Stromham> hey guys
[11:57] <godmachine81> chances are you will rather have the non-server compiled kernel
[11:57] <varsendaggar> yallaman, gremlins'
[11:57] <judah> yallaman: look for beagle to be hoggin your cpu
[11:57] <DarkMageZ> yallaman, alot of things could cause that, open a terminal and type top to see
[11:57] <yallaman> ?
[11:57] <J_P> godmachine81:  what ? examplaim agaim please!
[11:57] <nickrud> yallaman, top in a terminal will show you
[11:57] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is there a Network Manager 0.6.3 (Unofficial) Ubuntu Package?
[11:57] <judah> yallaman: i've had it get stuck on querries and just peg the cpu.
[11:58] <daaku> anyone know if its possible to get window drop shadows with compiz (i've got aiglx)
[11:58] <DShepherd> Inzoy: well it should defualt to the 'nv' driver. you may have better luck with the nvidia driver. have you tried reconfiguring the Xserver?
[11:58] <antinobody> jrattner1 no, but Debian is using network-manager 0.6.3
[11:58] <DarkMageZ> daaku, please use #ubuntu-xgl
[11:58] <Inzoy> i haven't yet installed ubuntu..
[11:58] <yallaman> gnome-panel is eating my cpu it seems
[11:58] <puckylunk> Well, if anyone has time to give me a hand with above ... IM me.
[11:58] <LjL> DShepherd: he's from the live cd and has probably rarely used linux before
[11:58] <Inzoy> nice.. booting
[11:58] <`blink> hi
[11:58] <jrattner1> antinobody, is that package same to use in ubuntu?
[11:58] <`blink> i just installed ubuntu 6.06
[11:58] <nickrud> yallaman, killall gnome-panel , it'll restart itself
[11:59] <`blink> and i have problem
[11:59] <godmachine81> J_P,  the server kernel afaik is a kernel that is stripped for server only capabilities.. as far as the speed and performance you will probably only want the server compiled kernel if you don't plan on using it for desktop use as well
[11:59] <Inzoy> ljl? are you talking about me?
[11:59] <LjL> yes inzoy
[11:59] <daaku> DarkMageZ: ah, thanks
[11:59] <Inzoy> .. no i've used linux before..
[11:59] <DShepherd> LjL: oh.. well you still can install stuff technically with the live cd..
[11:59] <`blink> because system i dunno what is a name of login user
[11:59] <antinobody> jrattner No, there are differences, if it causes problems, tell me, because I'm trying to merge that package for edgy :)
[11:59] <LjL> DShepherd: sure
[11:59] <yallaman> that worked..any reason why this happens?
[11:59] <Inzoy> .. a lot of times
[11:59] <steveire> Is there any way for me to make mp3 files that are selected be added to an existing amarok playlist instead of replacing the current one using Konqueror without using the context menu
[12:00] <DShepherd> Inzoy: so what is stumping you now?
[12:00] <judah> yallaman: run top in a terminal to see what process is taking the cpu at the time.
[12:00] <nickrud> yallaman, no clue as to why, I've seen it also
[12:00] <Inzoy> i removed ubuntu from my system to earn some space and now can't install them
[12:00] <LjL> Inzoy: well, then if you *are* at your place with linux (i was basing my judgement on the way the discussion sounded), then do follow the suggestion of reconfiguring the X server after installing the binary nvidia driver
[12:00] <Stromham> how do you change the splash screen?
[12:00] <JackRazz> hey everyone, I want to set up a fat partition to share data between win and linux on a dual boot - which is better for this FAT16 or FAT32???
[12:00] <DShepherd> LjL: well from what says.... he doesnt sound like a newbie.
[12:00] <yallaman> it was gnome-panel..judah fixed for now tough
[12:00] <judah> JackRazz: Fat32
[12:00] <`blink> what is the login name after system install
[12:00] <`blink> ?