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[07:25] can't get faster then that [07:26] hi nixternal!!! === Hobbsee has a dapper cd now. [07:26] grrr [07:26] i have 20 breezy cd's???? 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[09:57] howdy Hobbsee [09:57] as of 15 minutes ago, I have my own company [09:57] :-) [09:57] wow! nice! [09:58] after months of work getting permission from the german government [09:58] btw. my purple theme is coming right along :-) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:01] :) [10:01] kwwii: any pictrues of it? [10:02] one second and I will make one === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] kwwii: cool :) === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:16] http://bootsplash.org/snapshot2.png === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:19] nice :) [10:21] eh... [10:22] kwwii: cool [10:23] kwwii: Hi! Looks good. [10:24] cmvo, freeflying-g4: thanks :-) [10:24] it is just a start, but a good idea, I think [10:25] whatever it is... [10:26] it is my new pink-n-green theme [10:26] :p [10:26] hehe [10:26] very pink and green === Hobbsee has seen a university that is pink and green. odd place. [10:26] Hobbsee: i'm not surprised :/ [10:27] I think that hot pink clearly states a message, particularly when combined with teal green [10:27] my color-blind colleague used to have a pink-n-green desktop === Hobbsee wonders what that message is - i know what just hot pink is. presumably it's the same idea as rainbows [10:27] ouchy [10:27] I am pretty sure it has something to do with ponies :p [10:28] ponies++. [10:28] urgh. [10:28] ponies--; [10:30] Hobbsee: remember: http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/5561/pony14pz.jpg [10:30] heh [10:31] kwwii: Any ideas for the edgy kdm theme? Maybe something without a dialog box? === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:32] jpatrick: nein. http://www.personalponies.org/images/PonyMagic.jpg [10:32] I was thinking about something along that lines...perhaps just a half transparent box or such [10:32] [10:32] crimsun: ROFL [10:32] there is a new patch to remove the lines around the text entry widgets [10:35] kwwii: Or a copy of a kde dialog :-) [10:35] %part === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Seveas"] [10:38] :-) === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.48.82] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:18] kwwii: hi === pef_aw [n=loic@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef_aw [n=loic@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === driz [n=driz@pool-72-72-121-204.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.68] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:58] http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/random-screens/adept-layout-draft.png [11:58] (the mode bar is not yet implemented) [12:01] hrm, the state filter is slightly messed up but whatever :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.68] has joined #kubuntu-devel === driz [n=driz@pool-72-72-121-204.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [12:47] mornfall: nice but missing tags? [12:48] obviously, the new tag layout is not implemented yet [12:48] http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/random-screens/adept-tags-draft0.png [12:49] yep === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.51.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:01] Riddell: could you make some suggestion about why the PDF visual and the actual printout (and PS generated from PDF) could be different in an OOo produced PDF file ? [01:01] insanekane: I know vey little about pdf or openoffice [01:01] Riddell: oh well .. [01:01] thanks anyway === kubuntutaotao [n=kubuntut@61.51.249.47] has joined #kubuntu-devel === profoX|zZz is now known as profoX` === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-85-28.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=user@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings Mon 26th 21:00UTC [01:39] Riddell: we need a kubuntu version of this document it seems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Philosophy [01:40] so if we can come up with a nifty name, I'll start filling in the rest [01:41] Artwork/Documentation/KubuntuPhilosophy sounds good [01:41] hehe, I meant a theme name :-) [01:41] they have Human [01:42] I will think about this while taking a nap :p [01:44] Purple Coolness [01:44] Better than a Purple Face [01:44] lol [01:44] The Ken Special [01:45] actually Purple Face would be cool [01:45] oh ... so it [01:45] oh ... so it's purple on purpose :P [01:45] I thought "nice ass" would be a name that pretty much everyone can enjoy [01:45] purple face is actually pretty good [01:46] Kubuntu Face would stop it being restricted to a certain colour [01:46] true [01:46] that is the best idea so far [01:46] I think I will go with that [01:46] since Humans have faces, it goes well [01:48] Riddell: have you seen dolphin ? [01:48] insanekane: nope [01:49] its a nice and simple file manager [01:49] Riddell: http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/ === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.51.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] Riddell: its a pretty good idea ... to have a seperated file manager and web browser ... and retaining konqueror for the die-hards/power users [01:55] insanekane: looks interesting, we should make sure we have a package of it once it gets released [01:55] konqueror is essential for a satisfactory "KDE experience"... [01:55] OdyX: absolutely [01:56] in my opinion... it's just "THE" KDE spirit... [01:56] OdyX: very true [01:56] as far as I see, dolphin is "nautilus for KDE", no ? [01:57] have heard of nautilus ... never used it (the last I saw of gnome was almost 4 years ago) [01:57] well.. "gnome your KDE if you want... :D [01:57] OdyX: but, it is a simple file manager [01:58] nope... not only... [01:58] KDE is more than QT+++, it's a way of working, a "philosophy of usability"... [01:58] KDE is made as a whole... [01:58] but.. for sure... freedom permits you to "permit easy installation" of other stuff like Dolphin... [01:58] :D [01:59] But I (personnaly) would not like to see dolphin per default... === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] OdyX: "philosophy of usability" ?!? [02:04] sure... [02:04] OdyX: more like desktop framework [02:04] the whole KDE is the application of certain concepts... [02:04] with emphasis on framework [02:04] Gnome is based on different concepts... [02:05] yeah well [02:05] actually the gnome people will say that they base their ideas on the HIG, whereas KDE does not really have one of those yet [02:05] but kde has a more centralized concept by design [02:05] there's very little in the way of application concepts in KDE [02:05] libraries more so [02:06] yeah, for you guys who use english/latin, things sure are easier ;) [02:08] ... [02:08] insanekane: why's that? [02:08] because, things for you guys are tied down at a lower level [02:08] so you don't face many of the problems we do [02:09] insanekane: such as what? [02:09] such as the fact that most latin-based scripts only need single codepoints to be rendered on the screen [02:10] that is a given [02:10] when 2 libraries are written to render text, they take that as an assumption and work with it [02:10] OdyX: we won't use dolphin as default in kubuntu but if it gives KDE 4 developers interesting ideas then it's good to make it available to them [02:10] sure !!!! [02:11] there's loads of mockup screenshots for what the kde 4 file manager should be like, seems like dophin (and krusader) are the only ones actually impementing something [02:11] sometimes, the only thing common about the libs are that rendering linearly is sufficient to produce english text === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:12] stuff works only if the assumptions are solidified at higher levels [02:12] I think this is the direction konqi will take: http://konqueror4.linuxdevel.net/ [02:13] KDE/Qt is a godsend from that point of view [02:13] well, most of it anyway [02:13] yes, that webpage is very well done [02:14] but most of the libs out there are not capable of being changed that easily [02:15] i guess we are just too dependent on the west for our software :/ [02:16] kwwii: yes, good idea ... but it is not scalable [02:16] might it also be true to say that latin (and cyrillic) are just the easiest scripts to impement on a computer? [02:17] Riddell: actually, if one would really follow the standards, then no, they would be as hard [02:17] Riddell: but, when you short circuit them, then yes, they become very easy [02:18] Riddell: the very latest Unicode requires you to use combining marks for diacritics ... but i seriously doubt that there are any documents that use it ... and I also seriously doubt that many of the software is even capable of rendering them properly [02:19] Riddell: it was a pain to try and get OOo to render the latin using combining marks ... and even more difficult to synchronize Qt and OOo to do it ... so I just went ahead and started using PUA codepoints for *latin* characters ... that is going to cause a lot of pain for my users in the future [02:21] Riddell: what it means in practice, is that software will continue to be easy to develop for latin scripts (because of the laziness of the developers), and software will continue to be unavailable to us [02:22] well, i guess laziness is too strong a word ... [02:22] they just don't have to do it === DoeRayMe [n=will@ACD18BC2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:23] Microsoft on the other hand (irrespective of the rest of what they do) are very proactive about supporting world scripts ... [02:23] most don't know how, implementing all of unicode needs a lot of knowledge [02:25] Riddell: certainly ... thats why there are libraries [02:25] Riddell: they just arent used everywhere ... [02:26] Riddell: in OOo (and in KDE) there are so many places where libs could've been used but arent ... there are many places where libs *are* used. So, software only partially supports non-latin scripts [02:27] if for e.g., OOo crashes and I happen to be editing a file which has a non-latin name ... I start OOo again, and the recovery dialog shows wierd characters .... one cannot render non-latin text in karbon14 [02:27] Riddell: anyway, sorry for ranting ... just very tired [02:31] insanekane: it's an interesting rant at least :) [02:31] I can certainly imagine openoffice having unicode problems, that's what you get when you create your own widget set [02:32] heh [02:35] Riddell: widget set ? It has nothing to do with that === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] Riddell: you forget, KDE has the same problems :) atleast, the KDE universe === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:37] hi Riddell and insanekane [02:37] Riddell: KWord (from KOffice 1.5.2), select some text, and the whole document un-shapes itself! :) [02:37] morning Hobbsee [02:37] hi Hobbsee [02:37] hi jjesse :) [02:40] is there still a meeting tomorrow? [02:41] isn't the meeting today ?> [02:42] insanekane: in your timezone, probably [02:42] iirc it's my 7am tomorrow. [02:42] Hobbsee: its, Mon 26th here [02:42] same [02:42] but a lot later in the day :) [02:42] yeah [02:42] Hobbsee: 21:00UTC is in another 9 hours [02:42] 11pm almost [02:42] @time sydney [02:43] Current time in Australia/Sydney: June 26 2006, 22:43:01 [02:43] @time utc [02:43] Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2006, 12:43:10 [02:43] insanekane: just over 8 hours. you cant count :P [02:45] oh cool, short meeting tomorrow. [02:46] hardly seems worth getting up for. === Hobbsee adds more to the meeting. [02:53] 2100 UTC is always when i'm leaving work :( [02:53] we need to schedule it earlier in the day === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.34.68] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] jjesse: got a suitable time for the next meeting? === Hobbsee cant make 2100UTC anymore - depending on the next meeting is - maybe that one, but not after that. [02:57] Hobbsee: what's today's meeting about ? [02:57] and we need you to be there cause you are on the council [02:57] insanekane: see the topic [02:57] jjesse: well, yeah... [02:57] jjesse: that's the problem [02:57] Hobbsee: one thing ... https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs doesnt mention skim/scim [02:58] insanekane: who does skim stuff get assigned to? [02:59] launchpad doesn't do assignments [02:59] Hobbsee: no idea [02:59] Hobbsee: maybe ming hua ? [03:00] Riddell: nah, as in groups of packages are assigned to the kubuntu team, and that one isnt. is that what you're meaning? [03:00] insanekane: freeflying? yeah, maybe [03:00] freeflying isn't ming hua is he ? [03:01] Hobbsee: yeah, thats what i mean ... skim isn't assigned to kubuntu team [03:01] insanekane: IIRC yes [03:01] Hobbsee: kubuntu-team is subscribed to packages, nothing is assigned to anyone by default in malone you have to assign it manually [03:01] that might be a problem, depending on whether the "kubuntu team" feels it is important enough or not [03:01] and kubuntu-team should be subscribed to skim, I'll add it === Hobbsee advises everyone that her brain is absolutely shot, so she's not picking up a lot of things tonight [03:01] Riddell: ah okay [03:02] insanekane: yeah, but who as such works on the "kubuntu team" [03:02] bleh, that made no sense. [03:02] Hobbsee: i dont know ... thats why the "kubuntu team" was in quotes ;) [03:02] kubuntu-team's subscriptions are just a handy place to see kubuntu related bugs [03:02] insanekane: all of us :P [03:02] exactly [03:03] you should assign bugs to yourself when you are working on it [03:03] Riddell: why arent kubuntu members part of bugsquashers or whatever it is? [03:03] kubuntu-members is a closed team, same as ubuntumembers [03:03] what does bugsquashers do? [03:04] explain? as in, all members of kubuntu team are not in that team, but they probably should be [03:04] Riddell: they fix bugs :P [03:04] well, they get access to assigning a bug's priority, etc [03:04] don't we vote on people to be a part of kubuntu team? [03:05] jjesse: er, no [03:05] that's kubuntu-members [03:05] ah, i get those two confused sometimes === Hobbsee doesnt really see the difference between kubuntu-team and kubuntu-members, except the former being a very useful place to collate bugs. [03:07] kubuntu-team used to be used for listing kubuntu people, now we have kubuntu-members the people in kubuntu-team isn't important [03:07] right, so it's just a collating place for bug collecting [03:07] yes [03:07] gotcha [03:08] like i say, my brain's kinda here - but there's stuff that i'm missing... === Hobbsee blames exams. === Hobbsee got a dapper cd today :D [03:08] ubuntu though, not kubuntu :( [03:09] Hobbsee: they aren't being shipped together? [03:10] Riddell: dont know - i just got one off pia waugh today :) === Hobbsee should try it out. [03:10] ** podcast up featuring me! http://www.ubuntuos.com/ [03:10] Riddell: transcript? [03:11] Hobbsee: go ahead [03:11] no, that *wasnt* the answer i wanted :P === raphink-work [n=raphink@wormhole.x-echo.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] Hello === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] hey bddebian! [04:24] Hi Hobbsee [04:27] bo [04:30] I have BO? :-) === DaSkreech [n=skreech@72.27.128.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech yawns mightily and waves [04:39] Morning DaSkreech :) [04:39] Hiya hiya! [04:40] hi DaSkreech === Hobbsee yawns as well. [04:40] Morning Hobbsee :) [04:40] evening [04:40] Well Yeah I was translating time in my head but I'm sleepy so *glances out window* Morning [04:45] heh [04:45] @time wherever is useful [04:47] @time Aus [04:47] @time Jm [04:48] @time sydney [04:48] Current time in Australia/Sydney: June 27 2006, 00:48:09 [04:48] Ah [04:48] @time Montego bay === DaSkreech sticks tongue out [04:48] must not know where montego bay is :) [04:48] DaSkreech: there's a webpage where it lists all the timezones. [04:48] Yeah I know it's loading === Hobbsee beds. [04:52] Hobbsee: need a wake up call? [04:52] night all, night Riddell [04:52] probably [04:52] ciao Hobbsee [04:52] we'll see how trashed i am in the morning - right now i'm pretty exhausted [04:52] if the phones off, then i'm staying asleep [04:54] NIght [04:59] night Hobbsee [04:59] sweet dreams [05:01] moin everyone === Hobbsee looks for a comfy keyboard to sleep on [05:03] morning nixternal [05:03] Hobbsee: just go to bed :) [05:04] it's grown clothing again :( [05:04] lol [05:04] and if i chuck that all on my desk again, then i wont be able to get there for the meeting tomorrow. === DaSkreech should invent a Keyboard /pillow/coffee maker [05:04] yeah, that'd be nice [05:04] ya Hobbsee you only have 6 hours until the meeting === Hobbsee grows at nixternal [05:04] dont remind me... [05:07] lol [05:07] Riddell: around? [05:07] Hobbsee: hi === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-48-98.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] haha..i just got the 6 hour reminder from Riddell for the meeting...see, i told ya Hobbsee ;) === Hobbsee hasnt got that yet. === nixternal thinks he did that purposesly ;) === Hobbsee has requested that her presense is not at the meeting, unless it's required === Hobbsee hasnt seen it yet. === Hobbsee probably wont, before meeting === Riddell sends Hobbsee to bed [05:21] we should make it required ;) [05:21] lol === Hobbsee falls asleep on Riddell [05:21] nixternal: it pretty much is - i'm part of the KCC === nixternal faints [05:22] i know Hobbsee, but you were trying to sneak out ;) [05:22] true... [05:22] im trying to listen to the Riddell feed from ubuntuos, and amaroK doesn't want to cooperate with the feed [05:22] i trhink [05:22] tells me therei s no suitable input plugin [05:23] Riddell broke it ;) [05:23] of course he did :P [05:23] breaking things is fun! [05:23] his presence destroyed the entire .ogg format === Hobbsee wants a transcript :P [05:24] i have heard of ugly people breaking cameras...but breaking audio ;) [05:24] LOL === Hobbsee doesnt wnat to make one though === Hobbsee breaks audio. === nixternal breaks everything twice [05:24] just in case i didn't break enough the first time [05:25] Riddell: perhaps we should also ship dannyas accesability theme? [05:25] hiya kwwii === Hobbsee thinks a sleep BOF for a kubuntu conference could be fun. [05:25] howdy nixternal [05:25] lol [05:25] kwwii: we will, see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibility [05:26] okay, reallly night all [05:26] Riddell: cool :-) [05:26] Riddell: thanks [05:26] kwwii: hello, would you know where i can find the source for a KDE wallpaper? [05:26] abattoir: kde-look.org? [05:26] abattoir: which one? [05:27] kwwii: /usr/share/wallpapers/KDE34.png [05:28] abattoir: that should be on kde-look.org and/or on kde-artists.org [05:28] kwwii: i want to remove the KDE logo and move the lineart curve below, if that's possible [05:28] kwwii: ok i'll look there, thanks :) [05:28] and/or somewhere on one of my firewire drives [05:28] not sure if I have exactly that version though [05:29] and no idea at all where it would be === kwwii watches italy loose against australia [05:29] kwwii: never mind, i'll search through kde-artists.org [05:29] well, AUS should have scored there [05:31] abattoir: kde.org/stuff/clipart.php has some of that wave, but I'm pretty sure that wallpaper has no source [05:36] Riddell: oh ok, i thought authors always kept the source, thanks anyway :) [05:38] abattoir: remember you're talking about artists here... [05:39] Riddell: there are sources for that wallpaper [05:39] found it [05:39] I have an svg [05:40] What Riddell feed? [05:40] www.ubuntuos.com [05:41] abattoir: http://bootsplash.org/kde35.svg [05:41] you just need to ff through the audacity stuff..i haven't though... [05:42] kwwii: awesome, thanks a lot [05:43] Does anyone else get the feeling that gioacchino is a bot? [05:45] he/she/it keeps asking questions ina loop followed by thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or tanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! === apokryphos keeps an eye on it [05:47] abattoir: no problem === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:52] qotd: "what i like about windows, is that it leads me by the hand" [05:52] ^^ insert your punch line into the end of that ;) [05:53] Right into the waiting fist? [05:53] lol [05:54] @time jamaica [05:54] Current time in America/Jamaica: June 26 2006, 10:54:50 [05:57] oooh..jamaica [05:57] 3 more months...negril here i come [05:58] nixternal: I'll come by and say hi if you like [05:58] you live in jamaica? [05:59] Last time I checked the passport [05:59] nice [05:59] rhastafarian man [06:02] It's mon for Americans :) === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:02] haha [06:03] hopefully one day, I will be living in Cabo San Lucas...that is my place on earth [06:03] Why? [06:03] there or greece [06:03] 1. i love cabo, the place and the tequila...plus i got twice a year, and for the same price i could just live there ;) [06:04] I've always had the theory that everyone has a special spot on earth that speaks to them and there are a few people that will never find it and most people are not living or weren't born in that spot [06:04] 2. im a huge sammy hagar fan, and no better place than cabo ;) [06:04] Ha ha :) [06:04] good theory [06:04] my x-wife is from greece, and my visits there have been the best..beautiful islands [06:05] I have thought seriously about moving to Malta [06:05] i also like the countryside in pretty much all the european countries [06:05] sammy hagar comes from my home town [06:05] kwwii understands that the area i am in now, just don't get it for me any more [06:05] he as better when he couldn't drive 65 [06:05] my daughter almost shares his birthday [06:05] erm 55 [06:05] lol [06:06] Sysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.15-25-k7 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1674 MHz (3351 bogomips), , RAM: 498/502MB, 118 proc's, 2.11d up [06:06] like the name of my puter? [06:06] lol [06:06] lol [06:06] 3lockbox, mastequila, cabowabo, redrocker, rockcandy, and heavymetal [06:06] all my computer names [06:07] mine are named after science fiction authors [06:07] Reluctant Superhero? [06:07] That would be a grat name :) [06:08] i even name clients systems after hagar/vh songs [06:08] lol [06:08] and the Ubuntu/Sun box we did for a client, it got aptly named "WindowsKiller" === DaSkreech thought we were talking about Children === DaSkreech retracts earlier statement [06:09] lol === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] nixternal: Shouldn't that be uno Mas? [06:10] wo0t === raphink-work [n=raphink@vll06-1-82-234-166-84.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:10] dos mas for me [06:10] i shall double fist [06:10] Well yeah OBVIOUSLY the next computer would have to be called dos MasTequila [06:11] hehe [06:11] and so on till you buy one called floor [06:11] lol [06:11] or dead === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:13] Hey. How is it possible my KDE is in french without kde-i10n-fr installed ? [06:13] OdyX: language-pack-kde-fr [06:13] alias dead = windows [06:14] Riddell: why are there both ? [06:15] kde-i18n-fr is from KDE, language-pack-kde-fr is from rosetta [06:16] do they overlap ? [06:18] Riddell: the traductions from rosetta come back upstream ? [06:20] OdyX: they don't overlap, rosetta installs to /usr/share/locale-langpack [06:20] OdyX: only if the upstream takes them back [06:21] ok [06:23] and is someone fi with kde svn ? [06:23] fi? [06:23] I'd like to extract all the "po's for a particular app (preparation of a particular release (kmplayer-svn) ? [06:23] fi = fit [06:25] OdyX: use svn2disk from kdesdk-scripts [06:25] svn2dist [06:25] OK. [06:25] I'll take a look. Thanks [06:26] checkout the module from svn, svn2dist modulename programname === OdyX feels stupid. === OdyX spent the whole day for hand-creating a release... === arafat [n=arafat@M81c6.m.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === arafat [n=arafat@M81c6.m.pppool.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === mornfall bounces === mornfall ponders scaring the channel [06:36] /home/mornfall/dev/af-0.4.0/wibble/amorph.h:104: instantiated from 'bool wibble::Morph::leq(const wibble::MorphInterface*) const [with Self = ept::predicate::PredicateMorph, ept::predicate::AttributeAdaptor, ept::predicate::match::TagMatch