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| jjesse | @agenda Detroit | 02:52 |
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| jjesse | @schedule Detroit | 02:52 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Detroit: 26 Jun 17:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 16:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 02:52 |
| sivang | @schedule Israel | 02:56 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Israel: 27 Jun 00:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 15:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 23:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 02:56 |
| simira | what, did CC go on summer holidays or something? | 02:59 |
| jenda | simira: yup :) see them in september :) | 03:09 |
| simira | jenda: seriously? | 03:09 |
| jenda | simira: no, not seriously. | 03:10 |
| jenda | But it's been a month since the last meeting :( | 03:10 |
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| simira | yes, too lon | 03:10 |
| simira | long* | 03:10 |
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| Kamion | oh give us a break, it's only one skipped meeting | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 03:21 |
| Riddell | Kamion: I think the current complaint is that there's no next meeting on the schedule | 03:21 |
| Kamion | I'm aware of that | 03:21 |
| Kamion | I also note nobody has yet mailed community-council@ about it; apparently IRC is easier | 03:21 |
| Kamion | I'll send mail now | 03:21 |
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| nixternal | @schedule chicago | 05:00 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Chicago: 26 Jun 16:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 07:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 15:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 05:00 |
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| GNAM | @schedule rome | 07:25 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Rome: 26 Jun 23:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 22:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 07:26 |
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| Nirvana | is the meeting in 5 mins? or an hour and 5 mins? | 09:55 |
| jenda | @schedule Prague | 09:58 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Prague: 26 Jun 23:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 22:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09:58 |
| jenda | Nirvana: an hour | 09:58 |
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| profoX` | @schedule Belgium | 10:15 |
| profoX` | @schedule Brussels | 10:15 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Brussels: 26 Jun 23:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 22:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10:15 |
| Hawkwind | @schedule chicago | 10:16 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Chicago: 26 Jun 16:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 07:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 15:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10:16 |
| Nirvana | @schedule Toronto | 10:37 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for America/Toronto: 26 Jun 17:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 16:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10:37 |
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| uniq | @schedule oslo | 10:46 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Oslo: 26 Jun 23:00: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 22:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10:46 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Kubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 28 Jun 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 14:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 05 Jul 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | ||
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| imbrandon | am i late ? | 10:57 |
| jenda | you're three minutes early. | 10:57 |
| Hawkwind | Topic just changed before you entered | 10:57 |
| nixternal | lol | 10:57 |
| jenda | or is my clock wrong, dammit... | 10:57 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 10:57 |
| Hawkwind | jenda: I have 3 minutes til too :P | 10:58 |
| imbrandon | @now | 10:58 |
| nixternal | i just did ntpdate... 3 minutes | 10:58 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2006, 20:58:13 - Current meeting: Kubuntu | 10:58 |
| [Nirvana] | I have 2 | 10:58 |
| jenda | OK | 10:58 |
| jenda | :) | 10:58 |
| Hawkwind | jenda: Let's hope both of our clocks aren't wrong | 10:58 |
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| jenda | let's hope the world isn't, Hawkwind | 10:58 |
| [Nirvana] | they are... it's 2 and a half mins to | 10:58 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:58 |
| Hawkwind | jenda: Then again...Heh | 10:58 |
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| kwwii | hi | 10:58 |
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| [Nirvana] | TOMA... YOU ARE LATE | 10:59 |
| ogra | hey kwwii | 10:59 |
| [Nirvana] | WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT YOURSELF? | 10:59 |
| nixternal | hi kwwii | 10:59 |
| kwwii | hi ogra | 10:59 |
| kwwii | am I late too? | 10:59 |
| imbrandon | moins kwwii and orga | 10:59 |
| toma | [Nirvana] : i so apologise | 10:59 |
| [Nirvana] | lol | 10:59 |
| uniq | hi. | 10:59 |
| toma | can you forgive me? | 10:59 |
| [Nirvana] | kneel and beg for forgivenes | 10:59 |
| [Nirvana] | forgiveness^ | 10:59 |
| === toma kneels down | ||
| [Nirvana] | hehe... I'm just messing with ya... meeting should start any second now | 11:00 |
| [Nirvana] | @now | 11:00 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2006, 21:00:24 - Current meeting: Kubuntu | 11:00 |
| === toma punches [Nirvana] : in ya dreams | ||
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| highvoltage | hmmm... i remember talking to a kwwii at uds, but can't remember who it was (it's terrible when you can only remember people by their nicks) | 11:02 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:02 |
| seaLne | is there mopre than one of him? | 11:02 |
| ogra | highvoltage, he's the guy with the beer in his hand :) | 11:03 |
| highvoltage | ogra: you'll have to narrow it down :) | 11:03 |
| ogra | highvoltage, especially the beer in a sixpack when you guys cam back with your eiffel tower collections ;) | 11:04 |
| highvoltage | aaaah | 11:04 |
| allee | seaLne: # of kwwiis depends on the level of alcohol in quite blood | 11:04 |
| imbrandon | haha | 11:04 |
| === imbrandon prods Riddell | ||
| ogra | allee, nicotine also plays a role here :) | 11:07 |
| ogra | (you'll find him in the smokers place ;) ) | 11:07 |
| allee | I know ;) | 11:07 |
| === imbrandon *tap* *tap* *tap* "this thing on ...." | ||
| ogra | else the # of kwwii's is zero | 11:07 |
| seaLne | does that depend on your meaning of #? | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | how does Seveas put it , /dev/zero >> /dev/mind , does that applie to kwwii too ;) | 11:07 |
| Riddell | hi all | 11:07 |
| Riddell | sorry I'm late | 11:07 |
| highvoltage | seaLne: hehe. i would say something about # and kde devels, but that would not be CoC appropriate ;) | 11:07 |
| nixternal | hi Riddell | 11:07 |
| Riddell | what did I miss? | 11:07 |
| === toma is toma | ||
| imbrandon | nothign waiting on you Riddell | 11:08 |
| allee | toma: one more try | 11:08 |
| Riddell | so, agenda at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | 11:08 |
| === toma is toma | ||
| allee | nahh | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, did you skype hobbsee ? | 11:09 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: she's sleeping | 11:09 |
| Lure | toma: we know ;-) | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | ok | 11:09 |
| Riddell | raphink-work can't make it | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | maybe next one we can make a few hours later like 2400 or soemthing ( will wait till end of meeting for that ) | 11:10 |
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| Riddell | but allee, toma and me makes quota | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | aye ;) | 11:10 |
| Riddell | so first item on agenda is from hobbsee, discussing https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/50387 | 11:10 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 50387 in kdenetwork "Default "privacy" settings don't respect privacy" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 11:10 |
| seaLne | i think it is normal behaviour | 11:10 |
| === allee disagrees | ||
| Riddell | I don't really use instant messenging enough to know what the norms are | 11:11 |
| imbrandon | my .02 cents is lock it down by default ( ie turn privacy settings on ) and if users want it on they can easly cahnge the settings | 11:11 |
| seaLne | sending away etc is normal | 11:11 |
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| Riddell | so it's a complaining that "Become available when detecting activity again" is against privacy | 11:12 |
| uniq | i don't like sharing 'hidden' information. atleast kopete should tell you it does this. | 11:12 |
| Riddell | I can understand the worry there | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, yea | 11:12 |
| seaLne | changing the OS info stuff i think is probably fine | 11:12 |
| toma | it is the first thing i disable after installing im-software | 11:12 |
| Riddell | "Always send notifications" sounds like we need more info on what those notifications are but I guess they're similar | 11:12 |
| imbrandon | IE msn / icq on windows makes you turn that stuff ON if you want it | 11:13 |
| toma | allee: why dont you agree? | 11:13 |
| Riddell | "Hide system and client info" that doesn't sound like anything you couldn't get with web browser ident | 11:13 |
| seaLne | interesting | 11:13 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: that's interesting | 11:13 |
| === seaLne has only ever used IM on linux | ||
| Riddell | well if kopete is giving out more information than MSN we should change that | 11:14 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: Wouldn't Spim be a problem then? | 11:14 |
| === Lure is not overly concerned... | ||
| Riddell | DaSkreech: what's that? | 11:14 |
| allee | toma: be conservative. Only give away info that are strictly necessary. | 11:14 |
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| DaSkreech | Spam through Instant Messenger | 11:14 |
| allee | (by default) | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | yea i agree with allee | 11:14 |
| toma | allee: ah right, i misunderstood. I agree | 11:14 |
| imbrandon | still an option but OFF by default | 11:14 |
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| uniq | i agree with allee too. | 11:14 |
| DaSkreech | If someone can just send you an off message and gain a lot of information on your computer and you that might be cause for concern | 11:14 |
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| imbrandon | DaSkreech, exactly what we are addressing ;) | 11:15 |
| DaSkreech | Plus I think that Ubuntu has prided itself and marketed it self as being secure by default | 11:15 |
| Riddell | I don't see an issue with "Hide system and client info" but everything else I'm happy to have changed | 11:15 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, spim == spam for IM's | 11:15 |
| Riddell | I'll assign the bug to tonio, he's the default-settings hero | 11:15 |
| toma | Riddell: i agree | 11:15 |
| toma | i have another question about kopete | 11:15 |
| Riddell | toma: go for it | 11:15 |
| DaSkreech | imbrandon: RIght I'm saying that the fact that unknown people can message you and get info as soon as you start up Kopete (and some account) is serious issue | 11:15 |
| toma | today i've learned that 0.12 sdoes not contain translations, is that handled by the lang packs? | 11:16 |
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| Riddell | toma: no, although some people might be able to translate it with rosetta if they want | 11:16 |
| Riddell | but the correct solution is to get the kopete developers to fix their svn branch | 11:16 |
| Riddell | KDE is perfectly able to do translations for a branch | 11:17 |
| toma | absolutly, i'll have a look at that. | 11:17 |
| Riddell | "What's that @SIG@ thing, and how do we use it?" anyone here put that on the agenda? | 11:17 |
| toma | it just means we ship a nontranslated app, not sure if it should replace a translated one. | 11:17 |
| [Nirvana] | prolly someone who didn't read the NOTE: | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | not I but it seems like its explained below the agenda | 11:18 |
| Riddell | toma: if translations appear later it's not a problem to add them | 11:18 |
| nixternal | look at the line i added under imbrandon's last agenda item...see my name and the info after it..that is what @SIG@ does in the wiki | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, yes and that is explained in the "NOTE:" below, someone just dident read | 11:19 |
| Riddell | "When will we get the wiki.kubuntu.org certificate fixed?" when the sysadmins get around to it | 11:19 |
| Riddell | I'll politely poke them this week | 11:19 |
| DaSkreech | Whats wrong with you? | 11:19 |
| imbrandon | thanks Riddell ;) hehe | 11:19 |
| DaSkreech | I mean with it | 11:19 |
| Riddell | allee: your item | 11:19 |
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| [Nirvana] | speaking of certificates, when is https://xubuntu.com gonna get fixed? | 11:20 |
| allee | Fonts of wiki.kubuntu are way to small here. | 11:20 |
| imbrandon | [Nirvana] , best to ask the xubuntu team / meeting | 11:20 |
| Riddell | [Nirvana] : get whoever runs that site to file a request in rt | 11:20 |
| allee | We had a similar discussion about defaut font size in kubuntu. I argue that same applies to wiki ;) | 11:20 |
| [Nirvana] | ahh, because I filed a bug a while back | 11:20 |
| Riddell | allee: heno was incharge of the wiki, I think canonical has a new webmaster about to start so it's probably in flux | 11:20 |
| allee | Someone should fix the css | 11:21 |
| Lure | allee: really? they are quite big here (147DPI), both konqueror and firefox | 11:21 |
| Riddell | allee: however best thing would be if you or someone could make a patch and I'll find the right person to send it to | 11:21 |
| allee | Lure: when I press once ctrl-+. font size rougly matches here. | 11:21 |
| [Nirvana] | xubuntu.com went to edubuntu, and it seems that edubuntu still owns the certificate for https://xubuntu.com...but now it points to the fridge | 11:21 |
| imbrandon | and / or attach it to website-bugs in LP | 11:21 |
| Riddell | allee: although you shouldn't use fixed point sizes in webpages | 11:21 |
| ogra | [Nirvana] , `` | 11:21 |
| Riddell | [Nirvana] : wrong meeting | 11:21 |
| ogra | ?? | 11:21 |
| imbrandon | [Nirvana] , this isnt the place for that | 11:21 |
| seaLne | btw pretty please can we do new members in the next 30min so i can catch the last bus? | 11:22 |
| Riddell | seaLne: sure, do we have any member candidates here? | 11:22 |
| Riddell | preseumably seaLne is one :) | 11:22 |
| Lure | allee: I need to do Ctrl+ - twice to have the same size as wiki.k.org | 11:22 |
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| imbrandon | seaLne, looks to be the only one on the agenda | 11:22 |
| Riddell | I changed the font size on kubuntu.org recently to make it normal size not smaller than normal | 11:23 |
| Riddell | ok seaLne, could you introduce yourself | 11:23 |
| === seaLne is Kenny Duffus | ||
| Riddell | got a wiki page | 11:23 |
| Riddell | anything about what you're been doing? | 11:23 |
| [Nirvana] | he is THE Kenny Duffus... BehindUbuntu.com... duh! :P | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KennyDuffus | 11:23 |
| seaLne | i have done various bug triaging and run behindubuntu.org and have done a few packages | 11:23 |
| imbrandon | [Nirvana] , this si protocal please refrain | 11:24 |
| uniq | 10k+ karma :) | 11:24 |
| toma | behindKubuntu.org? | 11:24 |
| DaSkreech | heehee | 11:24 |
| seaLne | pay the money and i'll use it aswell :) | 11:25 |
| Riddell | I should say that I've known Kenny in real life for several years and he's often let me sleep on his floor when I get stuck in Glasgow | 11:25 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:25 |
| Riddell | so I might be in trouble if I don't vote him in | 11:25 |
| kwwii | Riddell justs wants him in so that he has someone to talk Scots to | 11:25 |
| kwwii | :p | 11:26 |
| Riddell | toma, allee: any questions from our council members? | 11:26 |
| Lure | seaLne did great work on bug traige for dapper | 11:26 |
| toma | browsing through launchpad for a second | 11:26 |
| toma | it looks good to me | 11:27 |
| toma | seaLne: any kubuntu specific plans? | 11:28 |
| allee | no really. What I've seen up to now is impressive | 11:28 |
| toma | what is sleuthkit? | 11:29 |
| seaLne | toma: i'd like to see improvements in accessability | 11:29 |
| seaLne | forensic sw | 11:29 |
| Riddell | seaLne: we have just the spec for you http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAccessibility | 11:29 |
| Riddell | lets vote | 11:29 |
| Riddell | +1 from me | 11:29 |
| seaLne | we have lots of expensive acessability stuf for windows but not in linux | 11:29 |
| allee | seaLne: you have a connection to people working in kde on accessibility? | 11:30 |
| seaLne | nope | 11:30 |
| allee | seaLne: how long are you participating in (k)ubuntu? | 11:30 |
| seaLne | hmm not actually sure, since some point in breezy | 11:31 |
| Riddell | first sighted on #kubuntu-devel 2006-02-18 | 11:31 |
| Riddell | oh no, he was on in 2005 too | 11:31 |
| Riddell | 2005-09 | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | sept 05 | 11:32 |
| toma | seaLne: did you sign the code of conduct? | 11:32 |
| allee | yes he did | 11:33 |
| Riddell | "Ubuntero: Yes " | 11:33 |
| toma | ah ok | 11:33 |
| toma | +1 for me | 11:33 |
| allee | Okay +1 from me too. Riddell trusts him and I see lots of activity traces from him | 11:33 |
| === imbrandon notes he is also a member of kubuntu-team and ubuntu-bugsquad | ||
| Riddell | yay! | 11:33 |
| toma | yes indeed | 11:33 |
| Riddell | welcome to kubuntu membership seaLne | 11:34 |
| seaLne | wooo :) | 11:34 |
| allee | seaLne: congrats | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | seaLne, congrats | 11:34 |
| toma | cool, we tricked another one ;-) | 11:34 |
| Lure | seaLne: congrats | 11:34 |
| seaLne | hehe | 11:34 |
| imbrandon | haha | 11:34 |
| Riddell | any other member candidates now? | 11:34 |
| nixternal | one of these days ... | 11:34 |
| Riddell | Lure: your item | 11:35 |
| Lure | is it clear now what is accepted of edgy in terms of Kubuntu spec? | 11:35 |
| Lure | (and general updated on major conclusion from UDS in paris) | 11:35 |
| Lure | s/updated/update/ | 11:36 |
| imbrandon | and if so where is it housed other than Riddell's mind ;) | 11:36 |
| imbrandon | ( the kubuntu specifics ) | 11:36 |
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| toma | yes, the blogs wheren't much helpfull | 11:36 |
| Riddell | the specs are still at https://launchpad.net/people/jr/+specs | 11:36 |
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| Riddell | I need to target the edgy ones to edgy | 11:36 |
| Riddell | and there's a bunch I need to tidy up and poke through to approval | 11:37 |
| Riddell | toma: I'll do a more complete blog soon | 11:37 |
| Riddell | allee: having the KDE devels was really cool | 11:37 |
| Riddell | at least for me it meant there was more than me at the KDE BoFs | 11:37 |
| Riddell | kwwii: any opinion? | 11:37 |
| Riddell | the teamspeak stuff didn't relly work, it's just too difficult to have a conversation in two places like that at once | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | what were some of the major things that you think will affect kubuntu as a whole decided ? | 11:38 |
| kwwii | well, we are starting a totally new way of working on the artwork | 11:38 |
| kwwii | Mark announced today that I will be "artist in chief" for kubuntu for the edgy cycle | 11:38 |
| Riddell | kwwii: announced where? | 11:38 |
| toma | kwwii: cool! | 11:38 |
| kwwii | on the ubuntu-artwork list | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | congrats kwwii | 11:39 |
| profoX` | @schedule Brussels | 11:39 |
| Riddell | great | 11:39 |
| Ubugtu | Schedule for Europe/Brussels: Current meeting: Kubuntu | 28 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 29 Jun 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 04 Jul 22:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 11:39 |
| allee | kwwii: cool | 11:39 |
| kwwii | well, I am my own boss, that is what is means | 11:39 |
| kwwii | but this time I want to get more people involved | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, where did he announce it ? | 11:39 |
| kwwii | I have already talked to a few guys about helping out | 11:39 |
| [Nirvana] | ubuntu-art he announced it | 11:39 |
| [Nirvana] | on June 18 | 11:39 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: my main focus will be laptop support, although I've no idea how I'll do the laptop buttons since my laptop buttons don't seem to work at all | 11:39 |
| kwwii | no, he only announced it today | 11:39 |
| kwwii | that myself and frank schoep will be the AICs | 11:40 |
| kwwii | that adds a lot of coordination work which I did not have during dapper | 11:40 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-accessibility will be cool to have | 11:40 |
| Riddell | and well overdue | 11:40 |
| Lure | Riddell: I can help on buttons (not sure for PM GUI as I am not GUI developer ;-)) | 11:40 |
| kwwii | definitly | 11:40 |
| imbrandon | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-June/002250.html <-- the announcement | 11:40 |
| seaLne | something laptop related that would be nice to fix is on this hp if you turn off wireless in windows you can't turn it on in linux afaik | 11:40 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-easy-zeroconf also nice | 11:40 |
| Lure | seaLne: easy fix - do not use windows ;-) | 11:41 |
| Riddell | and I need to talk to mornfall about how we'll manage adept, but he seems to be cracking on with development at the moment | 11:41 |
| allee | Riddell: did any of the KDE devels show interest to help on some specs? | 11:41 |
| seaLne | tonight i had to to login to the fscking wireless :( | 11:41 |
| Riddell | allee: I know el will help with the usability stuff we started with her | 11:41 |
| === allee will at least monitor comment on latopbuttons. More if time permits ... | ||
| Riddell | allee: and ervin will be interested in the laptop stuff from a Solid viewpoint | 11:42 |
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| Riddell | but I'm not interested in turning KDE developers into kubuntu developers, we need an upstream too! | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 11:43 |
| Lure | Riddell: will sebas work on PM GUI? | 11:43 |
| Riddell | Lure: oh yes, he started that already | 11:43 |
| Lure | (or should we hack kpowersave wityh hal | 11:43 |
| Lure | Riddell: great! | 11:43 |
| toma | yes, saw some commits already | 11:43 |
| Lure | toma: kde svn? | 11:43 |
| toma | yes | 11:43 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, is the solid stuff going to be making its way into edgy ? | 11:43 |
| Riddell | Lure: the powersave stuff is interesting since shortly after we wrote the spec saying "we'll just make our own simple powersave frontend that uses HAL"... | 11:43 |
| uniq | riddell: any more thoughts on dropping gamin or not? | 11:44 |
| Riddell | they wrote an e-mail saying they'd turn kpowersave into a simple HAL frontend | 11:44 |
| Riddell | uniq: I'm packaging kdelibs just now and have dropped gamin, I'll see how it works | 11:44 |
| Lure | Riddell: true, I think they have seen that big splash inclusion into kde is less likely | 11:44 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: no, solid is kde 4 | 11:44 |
| uniq | riddell: with --enable-fast-malloc (would make adept faster don't know anything about side effects) and +inotify? | 11:45 |
| DaSkreech | Riddell: There will be KDE4 Debs for Edgy? | 11:45 |
| Lure | Riddell: we need to discuss with sebas interaction between kmilo & new-pm-gui regarding suspend/hibernate keys... | 11:45 |
| Riddell | kde-kiosk-profiles is a fun task for anyone with a few evenings to spare | 11:45 |
| Lure | (or is this already clear?) | 11:45 |
| imbrandon | DaSkreech, no | 11:45 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: only very early ones for developers | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | DaSkreech, preview only in late october | 11:46 |
| Riddell | uniq: I'll look into using those too, thanks for reminding me | 11:46 |
| Lure | Riddell: isn't Tonio_ expert in profiles? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | uniq: inotify is in there of course | 11:46 |
| DaSkreech | imbrandon: Wel Riddell is slated for KDE4 on edgy | 11:46 |
| imbrandon | DaSkreech, preview only in late october | 11:46 |
| Riddell | Lure: that's not difficult, we just use standard X keys and bindings | 11:46 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: I'm not slated for anything, I don't want to be slated thanks | 11:47 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:47 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, so pm-gui will have proper xkeysym binding for X86Sleep? | 11:47 |
| Riddell | Lure: that's the idea | 11:47 |
| DaSkreech | Ah ok so don't expect a KDE4 Repo till Fuzzy Ferret? | 11:47 |
| uniq | riddell: great, if you build ppc debs i can test, :) | 11:47 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: correct | 11:47 |
| DaSkreech | ok cool :) | 11:47 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: although we might have early kdelibs packages | 11:48 |
| [Nirvana] | Fuzzy Ferret is next? | 11:48 |
| DaSkreech | [Nirvana] : No | 11:48 |
| Lure | Riddell: any idea how to make kmilo bindings configurable (g-s-d has some xml config file) | 11:48 |
| DaSkreech | Flirty Flamingo :) | 11:48 |
| imbrandon | [Nirvana] , no name for it yet other than it will PROBBABLY start with an F | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Lure: we make kmilo create standard X keys then let the suitable application pick them up and make them configurable | 11:48 |
| allee | Next agenda item? | 11:49 |
| [Nirvana] | that's funny because someone at neowin.net was said he was waiting for the Farty Ferret release, so they weren't too far off | 11:49 |
| toma | would be nice to package kde4 next to kde3 | 11:49 |
| toma | so people can test | 11:49 |
| Riddell | so in conclusion edgy looks cool and if anyone wants to pick up a spec and run with it please feel free to do so (but let me know) | 11:49 |
| uniq | toma: something for kubuntu.org maybe? | 11:49 |
| toma | ? | 11:49 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: your item | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | that would be mine, was wondring about the kde edgy timetable and when its going to tentively be uploaded | 11:50 |
| toma | uniq: yes | 11:50 |
| seaLne | ok got to go see yas later | 11:50 |
| apokryphos | adieu | 11:50 |
| toma | bye | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | as gnome is already in the edgy repos | 11:50 |
| Lure | seaLne: bye | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | Timetable for KDE 3.5.3 ( or what ever version we're starting with ) getting uploaded to Edgy ( Gnome uploaded already ) -- imbrandon | 11:50 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: well I've done qt 3 and 4 today, kdelibs is currently compiling away | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | but i also seen kdelibs just come accross edgy-changes a few moments ago | 11:51 |
| Riddell | and I'll do the rest tomorrow and wednesday | 11:51 |
| Riddell | you have? | 11:51 |
| DaSkreech | how many Apps have jumped to KDE4? | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | err qt4-x11 | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | ^^ my mistake | 11:51 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: phew :) | 11:51 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: none | 11:51 |
| DaSkreech | Amarok, Kopete.. Kouple others | 11:51 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: a couple on qt 4 though | 11:51 |
| DaSkreech | Sorry that's what I meant | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | DaSkreech, none for kde4 , some qt4 | 11:52 |
| apokryphos | DaSkreech: they *can* be compiled, but none are fully ported | 11:52 |
| Riddell | neither amarok nor kopete use qt 4 | 11:52 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: does that answer your question? | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | it would be silly to post major apps this early | 11:52 |
| imbrandon | and yes Riddell thanks | 11:52 |
| toma | one of my coworkers mentioned that a new gnome was added recently | 11:53 |
| Riddell | still plenty of gaps in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates if anyone wants to take some | 11:53 |
| Riddell | toma: yes, the new gnome is being uploaded, although not very fast since they're at guadec | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, been working on some , also what do we do with those for us MOTU hopefulls? upload to revu ? | 11:53 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: your item again | 11:53 |
| [Nirvana] | if KDE 3.5.4 is slated for the end of July, we'll see it in edgy right? | 11:53 |
| [Nirvana] | sorry for hijacking^ | 11:54 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: upload to revu and find someone to take a look at it, I'm happy to | 11:54 |
| toma | nm | 11:54 |
| Riddell | [Nirvana] : yes, I expect it will be | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, ok , and my next item .... | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | Sugest Getting a KDE theme and redirects for doc.kubuntu.org and help.kubuntu.org just as *.ubuntu.com -- imbrandon | 11:54 |
| Riddell | nixternal has info on this? | 11:54 |
| nixternal | KDE theme is being worked on as we speak...redirects are all still in the process as the transfer to h.u.c isnt' complete 100%...we (DocTeam & WikiTeam) are currently working on getting this all organized...mdke is the man in charge | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | kinda like the wiki.k.org | 11:54 |
| apokryphos | cool | 11:54 |
| nixternal | ;) | 11:54 |
| Riddell | nixternal: who's working on redirects? | 11:55 |
| nixternal | only CatDocs is being transferred from current wiki to new wiki...Matthew East | 11:55 |
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| Riddell | hi jjesse | 11:55 |
| nixternal | and that guy there | 11:55 |
| jjesse | hello | 11:55 |
| nixternal | ;) | 11:55 |
| apokryphos | so all things on w.k.o will take you to h.u.c as it is | 11:55 |
| nixternal | rain delay? | 11:55 |
| Riddell | nixternal: has he requested the domains be set up? | 11:56 |
| nixternal | jjesse: you couldn't be any more perfect on time | 11:56 |
| jjesse | gotta leave soon to softball game | 11:56 |
| jjesse | real quick :) | 11:56 |
| nixternal | domains and all that should be completed already... | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | apokryphos, as is right now yes | 11:56 |
| nixternal | everything is being ported if it belongs to CategoryDocumentation to help.ubuntu.com | 11:56 |
| Riddell | dig help.kubuntu.org | 11:56 |
| Riddell | doesn't seem to return anythin | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | right but what about help.kubuntu.org ;) | 11:57 |
| jjesse | correct | 11:57 |
| nixternal | the wiki.ubuntu.com is staying, just all of the CatDoc is being redirected | 11:57 |
| nixternal | there is no subdomain for h.k.o | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | nixternal, we are talking about resirects for the DNS and Kubuntu themes | 11:57 |
| jjesse | i don't think anything has been setup yet for help.kubuntu.com to redirect to anything, it was just a minor suggestion at the time to mdke | 11:57 |
| nixternal | that i can dig at least | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | jjesse, major sugestion to us kubuntu peeps ;) | 11:58 |
| nixternal | Kubuntu themes are being recreated due to the moinmoin upgrade...old theme doesn't work with new server | 11:58 |
| apokryphos | would be a good idea to get done; would be nice to have cleaner kubuntu theme when viewing docs | 11:58 |
| jjesse | i just asked mdke if we could setup the kubuntu template from the wiki on help.ubuntu.com and also see if we could get a redirect | 11:58 |
| jjesse | the last i knew he was working on getting it taken care of | 11:58 |
| jjesse | reason i suggested to him was because he manages help.ubuntu.com | 11:58 |
| imbrandon | ok jjesse thanks | 11:58 |
| Riddell | ok, I'll talk to mdke and see if he needs anything out of me for it | 11:58 |
| Riddell | I'd love to see it happen of course | 11:58 |
| === nixternal too | ||
| jjesse | sure, i think we have two people imbrandon and me trying to get teh same thing done w/o talking to each other :) | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | hahah ;) probbly | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | jjesse, i'll ping ya after, also is kwwii working ont he theme artwork ? | 11:59 |
| jjesse | in fact i wasn't even aware it was on the agenda until nixternal brought it up to me before the meeting started | 11:59 |
| jjesse | sorry i can't stay longer gotta go play softball :) | 11:59 |
| nixternal | doin' what i can boss ;) | 11:59 |
| jjesse | imbrandon: i'll be out for a couple of hours | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | ok np | 12:00 |
| nixternal | gl jjesse ;) | 12:00 |
| Riddell | jjesse: any suggestions from you about meeting time? | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | NEW meeting time ;) | 12:00 |
| jjesse | 2100 utc is 5 o'clock my time | 12:00 |
| jjesse | when i leave for work | 12:00 |
| jjesse | leave work | 12:00 |
| jjesse | for home, so even an hour earlier would be perfect | 12:00 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: yes, as "artist in chief" for the edgy cycle, I will be working on the theme artwork | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | and hobbsee wants later | 12:00 |
| Riddell | hobssee suggested 13:00utc for her | 12:01 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, cool just makin sure ;) | 12:01 |
| kwwii | :) | 12:01 |
| Riddell | any other agenda items before we do next meeting time? | 12:01 |
| Riddell | I have one | 12:02 |
| Riddell | could someone post a story to dot.kde.org about the ubuntuos podcast? | 12:02 |
| toma | the what? | 12:02 |
| Riddell | toma: see kubuntu.org | 12:02 |
| === nixternal just finished listening to that | ||
| imbrandon | Riddell, heheh i'll try , also have you listend to the sound quality on that ewwww | 12:02 |
| apokryphos | toma: podcast with our very own Riddell 8) | 12:02 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: I know. they're recording it over transatlantic skype | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, we did one with ummm ( not realeased yet ) on buntudot.org transalatic and its VERY clear ;) | 12:03 |
| kwwii | skype! OMG, non-free software | 12:03 |
| nixternal | hahah kwwii | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, better than skype for windows though ;) | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | one step closer to FOSS ;) | 12:04 |
| kwwii | hehe | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | ok new meeting time ? 1300 utc ? thats ummm *calculates local time* | 12:04 |
| toma | imbrandon: did anyone step up? | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | toma, to what ? | 12:05 |
| toma | for the dot story? | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | ahh i said i would try , i have never posted to dot.kde but i'll give it a shot | 12:05 |
| toma | ah cool | 12:05 |
| Riddell | it's the Contribute link on the left | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | kk | 12:05 |
| apokryphos | thing is, it's not that much about kde really eh? | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | kde developer ;) | 12:06 |
| toma | riddell = kde | 12:06 |
| apokryphos | kubuntu plans for edgy | 12:06 |
| Riddell | it's all related, dot takes any story with a KDE angle | 12:06 |
| Riddell | so next meeting, how does 13:00UTC suit people? | 12:06 |
| kwwii | sounds perfect to me | 12:06 |
| [Nirvana] | Prolly not good for West Coast North America | 12:07 |
| Riddell | or we could try it at that time as a one off to see if anyone still turns up | 12:07 |
| toma | in the weekend you mean ? ;-) | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | hmm thats like early AM in the US | 12:07 |
| [Nirvana] | in New York/Toronto/Basically along the East Coast it's 9:00 AM, which isn't bad | 12:08 |
| nixternal | 8am | 12:08 |
| toma | what do you think it is here right now? | 12:08 |
| kwwii | nope, 9am | 12:08 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: what time is it for you? | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | yea 1300 is ok for me personaly but i was thinking about day job people | 12:08 |
| allee | Riddell: 13.00 is during work time. So I can promise to be available | 12:08 |
| Riddell | it's 9am for jjesse wherever he is | 12:08 |
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